[00:00] <DaSkreech> You may want to copy back ~/.kdebkup/share/*/kmail* to the original locations
[00:00] <tarfart> and where is this jockey-kde
[00:00] <tarfart> oh i have to install it
[00:00] <tarfart> what a load of work.  watch this driver not even work.
[00:00] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: does' X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 130 ' mean anything to you ?
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Means that X is having issues
[00:00] <DaSkreech> hold on
[00:01] <phitoo> DaSkreech: No problem. Then what do I look for?
[00:02] <DaSkreech> phitoo: non crashy dialogs ?
[00:03] <phitoo> DaSkreech: OK! If I get this right, you seem want me to try running the system with a clean environment?
[00:03] <DaSkreech> phitoo: yeah
[00:03] <bongfrog>   DaSkreech: nepomukServer is having all kind of errors also
[00:03] <DaSkreech> I guess if you want to test hat you can just make a new user :)
[00:04] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: pastebin
[00:04] <phitoo> DaSkreech: OK! I can do that. How do I report back?
[00:04] <tarfart> this jockey sucks.  i clicked activate on the ATI drivers and it didnt work.  hence i reopened it and it's NOT activated
[00:04] <tarfart> linux sucks
[00:05] <DaSkreech> tarfart: Which X card do you have?
[00:05] <phitoo> DaSkreech: I won't be able to try it until late tonight or more likely sometime tomorrow.
[00:05] <tarfart> im gonna reboot
[00:05] <tarfart> and watch it not work
[00:06] <phitoo> DaSkreech: Besides it's intermittent and I'll probably want to run it for a while before coming to any conclusion.
[00:07] <Androidfan166> house full
[00:08] <Androidfan166> peace
[00:08] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: pastebin.com/d4974b7c4
[00:08] <Androidfan166> so once i get kubuntu installed .. yall gonna help me out
[00:08] <Androidfan166> right
[00:09] <Androidfan166> and
[00:09] <Androidfan166> no one typing
[00:10] <Androidfan166> k
[00:10] <bongfrog> DaSkreech:  I am also seeing ref to unnamed object.....  all over the place
[00:11] <Androidfan166> k
[00:11] <Androidfan166> k power
[00:11] <SuspectZero> !ping
[00:12] <Androidfan166> lol
[00:12] <DaSkreech> phitoo: yeah I guess
[00:12] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: looks like all errors come back to dbus
[00:12] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: Yeah I was about to say might be DBUS
[00:14] <phitoo> DaSkreech: then again if you're a regular on this channel I'll just make sure you're there when I'm ready. Say by Thursday/Friday.
[00:14] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: i am not in the know bout dbus....       where should i look?
[00:14] <DaSkreech> phitoo: Aight
[00:15] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=64134
[00:15] <Androidfan166> my 1st chat on da g1
[00:16] <Androidfan166> ? ... where can i get a pc pre installed kubuntu...and at what price
[00:16] <DaSkreech> Dell I would suspect or System76
[00:17] <Androidfan166> kde the only way to go for me
[00:17] <Androidfan166> dell
[00:17] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: thanks for the help ---   i will be back later    i have to make dog food money at the moment.......
[00:17] <DaSkreech> ok
[00:18] <DaSkreech> Androidfan166: or of course any blank computer and a CD :)
[00:19] <Androidfan166> i have problem with a power mac g4 dual 1.25...couldnt get of find and that supop
[00:19] <Androidfan166> supported
[00:20] <Androidfan166> i use mac for logic pro 8
[00:20] <Androidfan166> thanks daskreet
[00:21] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[00:21] <phitoo> DaSkreech: thanks for the help.
[00:21] <DaSkreech> phitoo: ok
[00:23] <DaSkreech> Androidfan166: try #ubuntu-powerpc
[00:24] <Androidfan166> k
 I must say though that the 4.x series so far for me has been a disappointment. :-(
[00:24] <DaSkreech> phitoo: Broke? or otherwise?
[00:24] <Androidfan166> what kubuntu
[00:24] <Androidfan166> relly
[00:24] <DaSkreech> Androidfan166: powerpc support is beneath the KDE/GNOME layer
[00:25] <DaSkreech> !ke
[00:26] <peaches> hmmmmmmmmmm
[00:26] <Androidfan166> thanks again...brb...
[00:26] <phitoo> DaSkreech: small problems, big problems, regressions.
[00:27] <DaSkreech> This probably falls into big problems :)
[00:27] <DaSkreech> what regressions?
[00:28] <phitoo> DaSkreech: Flashplugin has not worked in Konqueror for weeks. KMail has a date problem. There is krunner thing and so on.
[00:28] <DaSkreech> Really?
[00:28] <DaSkreech> Flashplugin has actually been working better for me
[00:28] <DaSkreech> Youtube now magically works
[00:29] <DaSkreech> haven't heard of a Kmail date problem either
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Is it offset?
[00:29] <phitoo> DaSkreech: It hasn't worked for me for quite a while now.
[00:29] <khalidmian> googleearth doesnt respond pls advise
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Houston we have a problem?
[00:29] <phitoo> DaSkreech: The date problem on kmail is known I think but the fix has not reached my desktop yet.
[00:30] <DaSkreech> ok if true
[00:30] <DaSkreech> what is the krunner thing?
[00:32] <phitoo> DaSkreech: the problem we have been discussing. I call it the "krunner thing". I have in fact taken to killing krunner on startup. I forgot to do that today.
[00:32] <DaSkreech> ah. That causes  the file dialogs to bug out?
[00:33] <phitoo> DaSkreech: I don't know. I don't see why krunner would have anything to do with a file dialog.
[00:34] <DaSkreech> It shouldn't unless strigi or something is linking them
[00:34] <phitoo> DaSkreech: But, I find that it's frozen when the dialog is frozen.
[00:34] <DaSkreech> phitoo: What do you have enabled in krunner?
[00:35] <phitoo> DaSkreech: I've disable strigi. And for that matter akonadi and nepomuk.
[00:35] <SuspectZero> how much swap space is recommended? 1.5 times the amount of ram u have?
[00:35] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: roughly
[00:35] <Dr_willis> SuspectZero,  depends on your needs also
[00:35] <phitoo> DaSkreech: Just what comes standard with the system.
[00:35] <SuspectZero> awesome thanks
[00:36] <Dr_willis> If you plan on hibernate/suspending - that much may be needed..
[00:36] <DaSkreech> a little bit more if you have very little RAM a little bit less if you have lots of RAM and then dependent on what you are doing  and response needs
[00:36] <Dr_willis> but if you go 4gb of ram ... seems a bit overkill to have 6gb of stap.
[00:36] <Dr_willis> oops swap.
[00:36] <DaSkreech> phitoo: Hmm I think that it comes with everything enabled by default may want to thin that out
[00:36] <Dr_willis> YOu can always add swap files later if you want
[00:38] <phitoo> DaSkreech: Ok! I'll try that. In fact, I wasn't aware it was configurable.
[00:40] <DaSkreech> phitoo: The little wrench on the side. Just go through and take out stuff that you wouldn't be interested in
[00:41] <phitoo> DaSkreech: will do.
[00:42] <phitoo> DaSkreech: It occurs to me that I've never even used the thing yet... :-) That must be why I don't miss when I kill it.
[00:43] <DaSkreech> phitoo: Well don't turn it on then :-)
[00:43] <DaSkreech> no sense in having something you don't use
[00:43] <demi> Guy's I have just installed kubuntu with kde 4.1.2, and my screen gets these constant random flickering, every several seconds anyone know what may be causing this?
[00:44] <phitoo> DaSkreech: :-) Ah! But it sounds so potentially useful. And I don't try to use it, then I'll never know how to use it...:-)
[00:45] <demi> my videocard is a ati x1800 xt, these random flickering/flashes is very annoying.
[00:46] <demi> Guy's I have just installed kubuntu with kde 4.1.2, and my screen gets these constant random flickering, every several seconds anyone know what may be causing this?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> You installed the proper video card drivers?
[00:51] <DaSkreech> phitoo: it's just a fancy alt+F2 mini cli :)
[00:52] <demi> im using ati x1800 xt, and it says click activate to activate the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver, but it doesnt activate it.
[00:54] <demi> why wont it activate?
[00:56] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[00:59] <demi> after trying activate like 30 diff times it actually works this time i think
[00:59] <demi> btw is there a way to update the kde 4.1.2 on this setup to 4.2.1?
[01:00] <DaSkreech> demi: the topic
[01:03] <demi> Thanks, I'm not too use to this kubuntu , I'm more savvy with Freebsd=\
[01:03] <DaSkreech> demi: The KDE 4.2 is out link has a repo if you enable that you can get KDE 4.2.1
[01:06] <Dr_willis> then you are used to reading docs? :)
[01:06] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:37] <DaSkreech> hi tarfart
[01:39] <tarfawt> hi
[01:39] <tarfart> i installed fglrx drivers and they're not working. http://rafb.net/p/Z4Cgjx53.html
[01:39] <tarfart> why wont 3D games play?
[01:39] <tarfart> i have the proprietary drivers installed.
[01:40] <demi> ati can be a pain in the ass running 3d apps, I know from prior experiance.
[01:40] <demi> that's running on Freebsd, I have not tried it yet on here, but I will eventually.
[01:41] <DaSkreech> tarfart: try something else
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Whats the Missing INI
[01:42] <demi> I am trying to get adept to upgrade to kde 4.2, but I dont know what repo address to add in the program, and im not getting the Adept -> Manage Repositories
[01:44] <tarfart> how do i make it work ?
[01:47] <tarfart> linux shit.
[01:47] <tarfart> fuck it.
[01:47]  * tarfart puts the xp cd back in.
[01:48] <Slartibartfast> demi: you don't see in the adept program "Sources"?
[01:48] <SuspectZero> !ping
[01:50] <demi> I clicked edit software sources, following the guide im looking at.
[01:50] <Slartibartfast> demi: under the tab updates you need to select unsupported updates
[01:50] <demi> then selected some options, but is there some special url I need to add to download kde 4.2?
[01:51] <tarfart> how do i make the drivers work?
[01:51] <Slartibartfast> demi: no special URL is needed ... when checked the unsupported updates you will get backports in your sources.list
[01:51] <demi> I slected unsupported updates, and refetched.
[01:51] <DaSkreech> demi: The link is in the topic
[01:51] <demi> Then the guide is showing I clikc adept again and go to  Manage Repositories
[01:52] <demi> Yes, im using that link.
[01:52] <DaSkreech> tarfart: do you have something like glxgears?
[01:52] <Slartibartfast> demi: But now you should get many updates, i think
[01:53] <tarfart> wassat ?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> demi: Third party Servers you add the ppa kubuntu-experimental line
[01:53] <tarfart> i'll just apt-get it
[01:53] <DaSkreech> tarfart: A pure 3d app people use it to test the 3d driver install
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Without the driev it's probably going to run slow
[01:54] <Slartibartfast> DaSkreech: for kde4.2 the ppa is not needed ... kde4.2 is in backports
[01:54] <tarfart> DaSkreech: there is no such package name but when i run apt-cache search ---> mesa-utils   is the only package that comes up
[01:55] <tarfart> well i have mesautils installed
[01:55] <tarfart> what package is glxgears in ?
[01:56] <tarfart> oh glxgears does work
[01:56] <tarfart> so why doesent quake wars and unreal 2004 work ?
[01:57] <tarfawt> ok it's messing up my screen
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Slartibartfast: It is for 4.2.1 I think
[01:57] <tarfawt> quake wars wont display but i get sound
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Quake wars I dunno
[01:58] <DaSkreech> ut2004 threw a missing ini error
[01:58] <tarfawt> all 3D games wont work. how is that if i can see the glxgears
[01:58] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: ah! try #phoronix
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Though they might be sleeping by now
[01:59] <DaSkreech> actually ##linux is most likely to get you help
[02:00] <Dr_willis> All the hot babes hang in ##linux
[02:00] <DaSkreech> but #phoronix is by far the most knowledgeable
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Indeed I do
[02:02] <silentContender> Can someone please explain how to fix a segmentation error at login?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> silentContender: depends on what caused it
[02:03] <tarfawt> DaSkreech: no one is even takling in #phoronix
[02:03] <tarfawt> i hate linux
[02:03] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I think it is the getty process (or slight possibly of the login process)
[02:03] <silentContender> DaSkreech, at least log files point that direction
[02:03] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: That's why I said ##linux
[02:04] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: #phoronix falls asleep about two hours ago
[02:04] <tarfawt> they dont know shit.
[02:04] <tarfawt> i was in ##LInux
[02:04] <tarfawt> oh well.
[02:04] <DaSkreech> If you got someone they would probably know how to fix it but I would be surprised they were awake
[02:04] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: And no one knew?
[02:05] <silentContender> DaSkreech, do you know how to fix it?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> pastebin the error
[02:06] <demi> Is the regular xmms in adept package manager? I can only find the xmms2 plugin for system tray..
[02:07] <DaSkreech> demi: no though you can use beep
[02:07] <silentContender> Post my error??? (not sure if that what you mean), but:  tty1 main process (10353) killed by SEGV signal  tty1 main process ended, respawning
[02:07] <Slartibartfast> demi: xmms is very old ... usinng gtk1.2 or so
[02:07] <demi> ahh yea I remember hereing about beep, I'll try that heh.
[02:08] <DaSkreech> silentContender: that happens everytime you login ?
[02:08] <silentContender> DaSkreech, everytime since last Friday (the error was in /var/log/daemon.log)
[02:09] <DaSkreech> silentContender: What's in ~/.xsessions-errors ?
[02:10] <jeffre> from a terminal, how do i install Mozilla?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> jeffre: I assume you mean firefox ?
[02:11] <jeffre> yrd
[02:11] <jeffre> yes*
[02:12] <silentContender> DaSkreech, startkde: Running shutdown scripts...  startkde: Done.  kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed  klauncher: Exiting on signal 15 klauncher: Fatal IO error: client killed kded: Fatal IO error: client killed ...etc
[02:12] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I did push the power button after trying to login
[02:12] <DaSkreech> silentContender: how much space do you have on the drive?
[02:12] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I have ~40GB free
[02:12] <DaSkreech> jeffre: sudo apt-get install firefox --no-recommends
[02:13] <DaSkreech> silentContender: Well then you may want to run a fsck on the drive
[02:13] <jeffre> thanks DaSkreech
[02:13] <silentContender> DaSkreech, done that already
[02:14] <DaSkreech> silentContender: What happens if you install xterm and then do a failsafe login
[02:15] <silentContender> DaSkreech, not following.  I'm currently using the recovery console on that computer
[02:15] <DaSkreech> silentContender: Ah ok
[02:15] <DaSkreech> You know how to change sessions when you login at KDM ?
[02:16] <silentContender> DaSkreech, yes (switch to console?)
[02:16] <DaSkreech> silentContender: no press alt+T and you have a list of choices when you login
[02:16] <DaSkreech> one is failsafe login but I think ubuntu doesn't install xterm bydefault
[02:17] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I think I have xterm installed
[02:17] <DaSkreech> silentContender: ok
[02:17] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I just tried fail-safe and it doesn't work
[02:18] <silentContender> DaSkreech, have to reboot now
[02:18] <DaSkreech> silentContender: it logs you back out again ?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> ok
[02:18] <silentContender> DaSkreech, yes it just logs me out (regardless which method I've tried)
[02:19] <demon_> my "hardware drivers" cant install drivers for my graphic card
[02:19] <demon_> help
[02:19] <silentContender> demon_, what's the brand and model?
[02:19] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I'm done rebooting, if you're waiting
[02:20] <demon_> silentContender: nvidia fx 5200
[02:20] <DaSkreech> silentContender: ok you tried failsafe and it doesn't work?
[02:20] <silentContender> DaSkreech, yes
[02:20] <jeffre> daemon, does it say drivers are available?
[02:20] <demon_> jeffre: yes but when i click on install
[02:20] <demon_> use
[02:20] <demon_> nothing
[02:21] <jeffre> not even a little box?? I know when ive done it takes a min, then a box pops up and does nothing, than all the sudden it installs
[02:21] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I can start a full session in the recovery console (kde 4.1 and everything), if that's any indicator.
[02:22] <demon_> jeffre: i click and nothing
[02:22] <demon_> activate
[02:22] <DaSkreech> silentContender: no issues?
[02:23] <jeffre> hmmm im not sure of the terminal command that would be needed as ive never had that issue.
[02:23] <silentContender> DaSkreech, no issues (it's a root session of course though)
[02:23] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I have tried reinstalling getty, login, ubuntu-minimal and none of that's help with the SEGV signal
[02:23] <jeffre> i know that once i install, if i dont edit my xorg file before reboot, all i get is a terminal screen...
[02:24] <demon_> jeffre: it starts but then stop
[02:24] <DaSkreech> silentContender: try su - (yourusername) then run kdeinit
[02:24] <jeffre> does it stop at like 60 or 80%?
[02:24] <demon_> 10
[02:24] <silentContender> DaSkreech, it give me kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set
[02:25] <demon_> jeffre: no zero
[02:25] <DaSkreech> silentContender: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[02:25] <DaSkreech> then run it
[02:25] <DaSkreech> You have X running I guess?
[02:26] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I honestly don't know (I've have it, if it's running currently I don't know)
[02:26] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I'm not running X, how do I start it?
[02:27] <tarfawt> why isn't knetowrk manager under the list of widgets when i right click add widgen on the pannel ?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> silentContender: X &
[02:27] <DaSkreech> You are in KDE 4.1
[02:28] <DaSkreech> There was no wifi widget for KDE 4.1
[02:28] <jeffre> sorry demon... im looking to see if i can find anything but why it wont install is beyond me atm
[02:28] <tarfawt> well then 4.2
[02:29] <tarfawt> no 4.1.4
[02:29] <silentContender> DaSkreech, give me a sec.  Just did something stupid
[02:29] <demon_> jeffre: i have made an update
[02:29] <demon_> and now works
[02:29] <demon_> :)_
[02:29] <tarfawt> well when i installed linux, there was a widget that looked like a globe.
[02:29] <tarfawt> and it allowed me to connect ot my wifi
[02:29] <jeffre> haha, awesome
[02:29] <tarfawt> where is it
[02:29] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I have X running
[02:30] <yousef_> anyone having amsn problems?
[02:30] <demon_> is there a fun club for kde4.1
[02:30] <yousef_> connecting
[02:30] <silentContender> DaSkreech, no mouse though
[02:30] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: readd the systme tray
[02:30] <DaSkreech> It's probably in there
[02:30] <DaSkreech> silentContender: run kdeinit
[02:30] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: if not then run knetworkmanager
[02:31] <jeffre> is there a glxgears equivalent for windows xp?
[02:31] <tarfawt> jeffre: there's no need for one.  windows stuff "just works:"
[02:31] <silentContender> DaSkreech, screening doesn't change, tty1 reads: kbuildsycoca running...
[02:32] <jeffre> BS tarfawt :P
[02:32] <jeffre> thats to bad that there isnt one.... :)
[02:32] <tarfawt> i made a new pannel
[02:32] <tarfawt> why is it at the top of the screen?
[02:32] <silentContender> DaSkreech, do I need HAL running (it's not running b/c it's recovery console)
[02:32] <tarfawt> and when i attempt to pull it down, it just consumed the entire screen
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't
[02:32] <tarfawt> how do i install kde 4.2 ?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: open adept and enable unsupported updates
[02:33] <DaSkreech> alt+F2 -> kdesudo adept
[02:34] <tarfawt> is that a command ?
[02:34] <DaSkreech> press alt+F2 and it opens a floating line
[02:34] <tarfawt> ok
[02:34] <DaSkreech> you can type a command in there and it runs
[02:34] <DaSkreech> type in kdesudo adept
[02:34] <DaSkreech> It will ask for a password
[02:34] <tarfawt> now what.
[02:34] <tarfawt> the Adept screen is up
[02:34] <DaSkreech> it's the password that you used to login
[02:34] <DaSkreech> Ok
[02:34] <DaSkreech> Sources
[02:35] <DaSkreech> Edit Software sources
[02:35] <DaSkreech> Updates
[02:35] <DaSkreech> click on unsupported updates
[02:35] <DaSkreech> click close
[02:36] <tarfawt> ok thanx
[02:36] <tarfawt> should i reboot ?
[02:36] <DaSkreech> when it finishes it's download thing then go to changes and click upgrade
[02:36] <jeffre> Daskreech- do you then accept all updates? (it says i have 23 once i followed your instructions)
[02:36] <DaSkreech> no you don't need to
[02:37] <DaSkreech> jeffre: Hmm ?
[02:37] <DaSkreech> which instructions?
[02:37] <tarfawt> well kde still sucks becuase the pannel is at the top of the screen
[02:37] <jeffre> to update to KDE 4.2
[02:37] <tarfawt> and it wont let me pull it to the bottom with out expanded it the size of the screen
[02:37] <silentContender> DaSkreech, so what are you thinking is wrong?
[02:37] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: you wento changes and clicked upgrade?
[02:37] <DaSkreech> silentContender: Something in your profile
[02:38] <tarfawt> yup
[02:38] <silentContender> DaSkreech, would it matter that I've created a new account and that one doesn't work either?
[02:38] <DaSkreech> jeffre: ah yes accept though you should be having a lot more updates
[02:38] <DaSkreech> silentContender: yes it would
[02:38] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:38] <jeffre> tarfawt- right click on panel - unlock widgets- panel settings
[02:38] <silentContender> DaSkreech, so... is there hope?
[02:38] <jeffre> Dakscreech - okay, thanks
[02:39] <tarfawt> this is so screwed up. i cant even move the system tray to the far most right of the pannel with out it jumping back.
[02:40] <tarfawt> yeah they are unlocked
[02:40] <tarfawt> i can move em.  just not to where I want em
[02:41] <DaSkreech> silentContender: ok what did you do before this started?
[02:41] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I just updated my computer Friday afternoon and used it.  Friday night comes and it's broken.
[02:41] <DaSkreech> ha
[02:41] <DaSkreech> silentContender: Do you have any updates now?
[02:42] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I'll check and update.
[02:42] <tarfawt> FOR GOD SAKES!!!!! HOW DO I PULL THE PANNEL DO THE BOTTOM OF MY SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:43] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: As I recall it was not obvious in KDE 4.1
[02:43] <tarfawt> linux shit.
[02:43] <tarfawt> well thanx
[02:43] <DaSkreech> I think the top of the black bar was different and you grabbed that
[02:43] <tarfawt> i just got rid of the previous pannel
[02:44] <silentContender> DaSkreech, no new updates
[02:44] <DaSkreech> ok and something is breaking getty?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> I can't think of anything tha would do that
[02:45] <DaSkreech> silentContender: Wait why does startkde start shutdown?
[02:45] <silentContender> DaSkreech, when?
[02:45] <silentContender> where?
[02:46] <DaSkreech> startkde: Running shutdown scripts...  startkde: Done.
[02:46] <DaSkreech> That was what you pasted earlier?
[02:46] <silentContender> DaSkreech, I think the shutdown was caused by me pushing the power button after everything froze.  (I'll check the logs to be sure)
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[02:48] <DaSkreech> right that makes sense
[02:48] <DaSkreech>  but ..
[02:48] <DaSkreech> doesn't
[02:48] <DaSkreech> so it's freezing before it runs anything ?
[02:49] <DaSkreech> tarfawt: no cursing here
[02:49] <silentContender> Yes, it freeze before anything.  (I managed to write script to id getty or maybe login as the cause of SEGV)
[02:50] <DaSkreech> login would be a bad thing to mess up
[02:50] <DaSkreech> if you login on the TTY that dies?
[02:51] <silentContender> I don't know, I'll put up the daemon.log again
[02:53] <silentContender> tty1 main process (10848) killed by SEGV signal
[02:54] <silentContender> tty1 main process ended, respawning
[02:55] <silentContender> DaSkreech, before this happens (that was attempt to login via console), KDM_greet has: Cannot read from core
[02:56] <DaSkreech> you have a Fatal IO Error on all script calls
[02:57] <silentContender> I don't see any in my logs
[02:57] <DaSkreech> I was thinking that may be permissions but no that's probably something file system
[02:57] <DaSkreech> You gave that to me
[02:58] <DaSkreech> kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed  klauncher: Exiting on signal 15 klauncher: Fatal IO error: client killed kded: Fatal IO error: client killed ...etc
[02:59] <silentContender> I don't know,  All I know is fsck has not mention errors.
[02:59] <tarfawt> how do i pull the pannel to the bottom of the screen
[03:01] <silentContender> DaSkreech, just remember something I was told to try,  when I try passwd <username>, I get a segmentation fault.
[03:02] <silentContender> DaSkreech, and also I've tried login (in recovery console) and enter my user/pass and get segmentation fault.
[03:02] <DaSkreech> silentContender: do you have a /etc/passwd ?
[03:02] <chairman> i have a problem w/Kmail
[03:02] <silentContender> DaSkreech, yes
[03:03] <chairman> It doesn't want send out emails
[03:03] <DaSkreech> silentContender: and do you have a /etc/shadow ?
[03:03] <silentContender> yes
[03:04] <silentContender> DaSkreech, it KDM suppose to have an entry in passwd (GDM does)
[03:04] <silentContender> it -> is
[03:04] <tarfawt> how do i upgrade to kde 4.2
[03:05] <DaSkreech> Did you enable unsupported updates in Adept?
[03:05] <DaSkreech> In adept click on changes then click upgrade
[03:06] <silentContender> DaSkreech, what do I need to do?
[03:06] <silentContender> Sorry if I'm rushing you.
[03:07] <DaSkreech> silentContender: do you have /bin/bash ?
[03:07] <tarfawt> looks like more stuff to hog my harddrive space and to run in the background that i dont need
[03:07] <silentContender> Yes
[03:07] <DaSkreech> it replaces the stuff you have now it uses up marginally more space
[03:07] <DaSkreech> you can stop whatever you don't want to run from running
[03:08] <DaSkreech> If you want something like then try fluxbox or xfce
[03:09] <silentContender> DaSkreech, could you give me an idea where to go from here (have to go now).  Thanks for listening to me.
[03:10] <DaSkreech> silentContender: ok there are about 5 steps when you login
[03:10] <silentContender> Ok
[03:10] <silentContender> Listening.
[03:10] <DaSkreech> if the login sequence is having issues then there are only a few things that could be causing it
[03:10] <silentContender> ok
[03:12] <silentContender> DaSkreech, the things are?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> and when you login and type passwd username it segfaults?
[03:12] <silentContender> Yes
[03:12] <DaSkreech> Does it ask you for a passwd first?
[03:12] <silentContender> Login? It ask for user first
[03:12] <DaSkreech> no passwd
[03:13] <DaSkreech> you said when you login you get segfault
[03:13] <DaSkreech> and when you try passwd <username>
[03:13] <silentContender> Yes
[03:13] <DaSkreech> when you do passwd does it ask for a password first or does it segfault instantly ?
[03:14] <silentContender> Instantly
[03:14] <DaSkreech> hmm do you have a UID 0 in /etc/passwd
[03:14] <DaSkreech> I think your root user has been deleted
[03:14] <DaSkreech> Though that should be hard coded in the kernel
[03:14] <silentContender> Ok,  I'll look into that.  Have to go now.  Thanks
[03:15] <tarfawt> linux FAIL!
[03:15] <tarfawt> how do i downgrade to kde 3.5
[03:15] <tarfawt> at least that worked.
[03:16] <DaSkreech> in Ibex?
[03:17] <tarfawt> and whats dolphin doing on this. thats stupid
[03:19] <chairman> i need help on Kmail
[03:21] <SuspectZero> !ping
[03:24] <tarfart> ugh, do i really need mysql for a kde 4.2 upgrade ?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> tarfart: deselect akonadi
[03:26] <DaSkreech> It's for mail if you don't plan on using mail don't install it
[03:26] <DaSkreech> chairman: What's wrong?
[03:27] <tarfart> ugh... this is taking way entirely too long.
[03:37] <tarfart> i upgraded to kde 4.2 and the pannel is still failing to be pulled to the bottomof the screen.
[03:37] <tarfart> i made a new pannel, and it's at the top of the screen.
[03:38] <tarfart> how do i pull it to the bottom of the screen ?
[03:40] <EtFb> My wife is having a weird bug with Firefox, which only started when she began using Kubuntu.  It randomly opens websites with URLS like www.WORD.com, where WORD is a common English word like "fell".  Has anyone experienced anything similar?
[03:41] <tarfart> EtFb: yuck, this is where i would hollar "Linux Garbage" at the top of my lungs.
[03:42] <tarfart> i upgraded to kde 4.2 and the pannel is still failing to be pulled to the bottomof the screen.
[03:42] <chairman> for some reason it won't send out the emails fast enough as soon as I press send or forward it. i went to setting in my gmail accounts and changed the preferences..
[03:42] <tarfart>  i made a new pannel, and it's at the top of the screen.
[03:42] <tarfart> how do i pull it to the bottom of the screen ?
[03:42] <EtFb> tarfart: Not the most helpful of replies.    I used it for a few weeks then moved back to Hardy Heron.
[03:43] <tarfart> EtFb: sorry, but according to my experience, i use windows at my college's library, and firefox pwns on those computers
[03:44] <tarfart> EtFb: yeah kde4 does look like garbage, then it had the odacity to fire up dolphin
[03:44] <coreyman> why is kde4 such garbage
[03:44] <EtFb> tarfart: Windows... Windows... I've heard of that.  Wasn't it a graphical shell some USian company came up with to jazz up their CP/M clone?
[03:44] <EtFb> tarfart: Whatever happened to that?
[03:44] <tarfart> coreyman: if you want a pannel on the bottom of the screen, forget it.
[03:44] <coreyman> really now tarfart?
[03:45] <tarfart> yeah.
[03:45] <coreyman> lol.
[03:45] <tarfart> EtFb: windows 7, just wait. it's gonna blow this linux crap away.
[03:45] <lastent> hi I had Ubuntu installed and I just installed Kubuntu, all was right but I upgraded the kernel of ubuntu and know that new installation diesnt appear on the grub, how can I add it?
[03:45] <coreyman> linux and windows are two different kernels... just an fyi.
[03:46] <tarfart> coreyman: yeah, but one has stuff that "just works" while the other doesnt.
[03:46] <EtFb> tarfart: To paraphrase and invert Darth Vader: I find your excess of faith disturbing...
[03:46] <tarfart> microsofts moto should be "it just works"
[03:46] <tarfart> EtFb: it's all experience.
[03:46] <coreyman> tarfart i have used windows 7... it's just like all the other windows.
[03:47] <EtFb> tarfart: Upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04.  When it comes to stuff that "just works", I've found it to be far superior to that Seattle company's offerings.
[03:47] <tarfart> im on 8.10
[03:47] <coreyman> besides, linux is for advanced users, that know what they want... and how they want it.... windows, is for your grandma
[03:47] <tarfart> im already on split partition and im playing qauake 4, watching dvds, unreal tournament... effortlessly with out extra typing on the terminal.
[03:48] <EtFb> tarfart: That's what I mean: upgrade to 8.04. Intrepid Ibex is a downgrade from every direction.
[03:48] <tarfart> ok
[03:48] <tarfart> is it still the same kernel?
[03:48] <tarfart> same xorg version ?
[03:48] <coreyman> oh noes i have to use my keyboardz!
[03:49] <EtFb> coreyman: That's old news.  Ubuntu is more grandma-compatible than Vista.  I don't have tarfart's faith that Win 7 will be good enough.
[03:49] <goofey> guys, can you take this to #kubunt-offtopic?
[03:50] <coreyman> what? so this channel can be dead
[03:50] <coreyman> not like any technical help going on in here.
[03:50] <coreyman> you have to go to ubuntu channel and pretend you dont have kubuntu
[03:50] <goofey> ubottu: !offtopic | coreyman
[03:50] <EtFb> So, back to topic: Firefox in Kubuntu.  Being weird.  Purged and reinstalled.  Still being weird.  Has anyone here had similar experiences?
[03:51] <coreyman> What is weird about it
[03:51] <EtFb> You'
[03:51] <kuaera> I have had similar experiences. It runs extremely slow and is very unstable.
[03:51] <tarfart> linux FAIL!
[03:51] <EtFb> You're looking at a page.  It picks a random word on the page, opens a new tab with www.whatever-that-word-was.com.
[03:51] <coreyman> EtFb no not at all.
[03:52] <EtFb> Yeah thanks, tarfart.    Please hush now.
[03:52] <coreyman> yea tartfart linux fails because someone who made software for it not in any way affiliated with the OS has a bug in the code.
[03:52] <EtFb> kuaera: Have you tried any of the nightly builds of FF3.1?  Apparently they're MUCH faster.
[03:53] <coreyman> EtFb you running on an old machine?
[03:53] <tarfart> where the slogan for microsoft should be "it just works"  the slogan for linux should be either a)  "you get what you pay for" or b) "linux fail!"
[03:53] <EtFb> coreyman: (Actually, Linux usually fails due to lack of testing and quality control, but that's not the point.  The point is that stupidity is not helpful.)
[03:53] <tarfart> xD
[03:53] <EtFb> coreyman: No, quite newish, maybe 2 years old.  And it's a Toshiba laptop, so it's good quality.
[03:53] <tarfart> EtFb: me too
[03:53] <tarfart> Toshiba satalite
[03:54] <kuaera> EtFb: I have not tried FF3.1 on that particular machine, but I will soon.
[03:54] <tarfart> 2 years old in a best buy deal.
[03:54] <FoxBlitzz> [03/09 23:51] <EtFb> You're looking at a page.  It picks a random word on the page, opens a new tab with www.whatever-that-word-was.com.
[03:54] <FoxBlitzz> IIRC that happens if you middle-click without the Ubuntu Firefox Modifications add-on installed
[03:54] <EtFb> kuaera: I use the standard FF and it's not all that bad.  Have you tried purge-and-reinstall to see if you're having extension troubles?
[03:54] <coreyman> i have a toshiba satellite and it's a peice.
[03:54] <kuaera> EtFb: I have...still runs badly.
[03:55] <coreyman> EtFb you read what FoxBlitzz wrote?
[03:55] <EtFb> FoxBlitzz: Wow!  I'll hunt that down.  It might be the first clue.  Certainly my wife has been having trouble with the middle-click effect...
[03:55] <tarfart> EtFb: try to get fglrx installed on that. by the time you find out it's impossible, you realize that time coulda been used installing xp.
[03:55] <tarfart> toshiba satalite pwns
[03:56] <kuaera> IBM Thinkpad T42 here.
[03:56] <coreyman> XP? you aren't even a good spokesperson for windows.... xp is old news.
[03:56] <EtFb> tarfart: I'm not thrilled with fglrx, but I haven't gone to great lengths to fix it.  Just avoid logging out, which crashes my laptop (a much newer Toshiba) and I'm fine.
[03:56] <FoxBlitzz> Personally I'd prefer if middle-click were to engage mouse cursor scrolling like it does in Windows, but eh, at least it removes the auto-paste.
[03:56] <EtFb> tarfart: That's what you get for using commercial, closed-source software.
[03:56] <tarfart> coreyman: so? xp is working news.  vista sucks
[03:56] <coreyman> ... wow everything you dont use sucks doesn't it? nothing wrong with vista.
[03:56] <FoxBlitzz> I've used Windows 7
[03:56] <kuaera> tarfart, EtFb, coreyman, take it to offtopic. We're trying to help others here.
[03:57] <FoxBlitzz> Starts up more cleanly than Windows XP but I wouldn't really use it as a productive system yet
[03:57] <tarfart> coreyman: vista comes with too much crap.
[03:57] <tarfart> ok
[03:57] <coreyman> Could've sworn that we just helped the guy who needed help.
[03:59] <EtFb> As it happens - no.  Just checked with my wife, and she doesn't have the Ubuntu Firefox Mods installed.
[03:59] <tarfart> yuck, in kde 4.2 you can t even add a clock widget to the pannel
[04:00] <kuaera> I have a clock widget in a panel on the bottom of the screen.
[04:00] <kuaera> PEBKAC.
[04:00] <FoxBlitzz> Isn't it just click-and-drag?
[04:00] <kuaera> Pretty much, yeah.
[04:01] <FoxBlitzz> I'm still a bit uneasy about KDE4, but I'm really liking the progress so far
[04:01] <kuaera> I'm really mostly waiting for Qt4.5.1.
[04:02] <FoxBlitzz> For Jaunty, are the Kubuntu devs willing to squash KDE bugs/have the KDE devs squash those bugs in time for release?
[04:02] <kuaera> Fix all these annoying little problems and KDE will be really solid.
[04:02] <tarfart> nah, i click add widgets > analog clock.  the pannel flickers, and there's NO clock.
[04:03] <tarfart> again... linux fail!
[04:03] <FoxBlitzz> I found this rather embarrassing problem (can view it if you use Firefox): http://chaos.foxmage.com/AkuKitsune/KDE4SureIsReadyForPrimeTime.png
[04:04] <kuaera> tarfart: Or maybe you just botched your install. *shrug*
[04:04] <kuaera> FoxBlitzz: The one-pixel off thing in the taskbar?
[04:05] <tarfart> how do you do that to a kubuntu installation.
[04:05] <tarfart> this aint gentoo
[04:05] <FoxBlitzz> No
[04:05] <FoxBlitzz> Dolphin's folder view flickering the toolbar if you resize it a certain way
[04:05] <FoxBlitzz> *scrollbar
[04:05] <FoxBlitzz> It's an aPNG, need Firefox to see it
[04:06] <kuaera> I see. I've not had that happen to me.
[04:08] <FoxBlitzz> That was from the Jaunty Alpha 5 LiveCD
[04:09] <FoxBlitzz> I also tried KDE 4.2 on Intrepid Experimental which I upgraded to from a Hardy installation and found it buggy as heck since it would forget all my preferences
[04:09] <FoxBlitzz> Even those required to function normally
[04:09] <FoxBlitzz> I know it's "Experimental" but you'd think they would at least take the time to ensure that it'd work...
[04:11] <kuaera> FoxBlitzz: I'm running Jaunty with all updates, and it's still very much into development.
[04:11] <FoxBlitzz> You mean it's very complete or very incomplete?
[04:11] <kuaera> Both.
[04:12] <kuaera> Some days, I'll update and the system's hardly usable due to some runaway critical process
[04:12] <kuaera> Other days, it's perfectly usable
[04:12] <goofey> that's the definition of "alpha" folks
[04:12] <FoxBlitzz> I know, I know
[04:12] <FoxBlitzz> I was just wondering if they would be able to still fix silly things like the Dolphin flickering glitch I mentioned above in time for public release
[04:13] <FoxBlitzz> I don't know how their dev process works...
[04:13] <goofey> depends of it's a kde issue or a kubuntu issue I think
[04:13] <goofey> er, depends *if*
[04:14] <goofey> I think there's a better chance of it being fixed for 9.04 if it's a kubuntu issue
[04:15] <FoxBlitzz> Seems more like KDE
[04:15] <goofey> well, in that case, kde has to fix it and then kubuntu has to add the fix - more steps
[04:15] <FoxBlitzz> Would a bug like this likely be patched during the Jaunty lifecycle?
[04:16] <demi> Dang, how do I get my 3d look when I ALT TAB?
[04:16] <goofey> a kde issue would be fixed on kde's schedule, not kubuntu's schedule (i think)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> demi: alt+F3 -> Configure Wndow Settings -> Desktop Effects
[04:17] <DaSkreech> FoxBlitzz: Check in #kde to see if others have it
[04:18] <demi> Thanks DaSkreech
[04:21] <demi> I had just installed Compiz-Fusion, how do I open it? I cant find it in normal kde applications anywhere.
[04:22] <DaSkreech> demi: did you install the compiz control ?
[04:23] <demi> the compizconfig settings manager?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ccsm
[04:24] <coreyman> anyone use komodo edit
[04:24] <demi> guess I was installing some of the wrong things heh, think ill get it to work.
[04:25] <DaSkreech> demi: you can run compiz --replace
[04:25] <DaSkreech> but ccsm is easier
[04:28] <bongfrog> DaSkreech:    Any ideas where  or how I should look for problems with dbus??
[04:35] <wartalker> the knetworkmanager not dock in tray, why
[04:35] <demi> for the cube part of compiz for instance it says Ctrl,ALT Button1, What is button 1?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> demi: left mouse button
[04:36] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: you have issues with the timing?
[04:38] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: No you were helping me with KDE4.2 deciding to seg fault all over the place and not start .  The xdesktop file is here..   http://pastebin.com/d4974b7c4
[04:38] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: all points seemedd to lead to the DBus bing funny
[04:40] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: KDE starts but no kwin or plasma ?
[04:40] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: that is correct.    just a silly bubble background.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> and alt+F2
[04:41] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: gives me a run prompt.   we got twm up and running but no joy with kmail.....
[04:42] <DaSkreech> ok what was the output of kwin --replace ?
[04:43] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: running plasma gives KServiceFactory error?
[04:43] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: Seg Fault
[04:43] <bongfrog> Anyway to clean kde to default but not nuke kmail?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> kservicefactory huh?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: You said that a new user works fine ?
[04:44] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: I will postebin it.....
[04:44] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: ya new uesr is OK...
[04:45] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:45] <DaSkreech> then try mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup
[04:45] <DaSkreech> then log back in
[04:46] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/dffo89cf
[04:47] <DaSkreech> Says it doesn't exist
[04:47] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: 0!=o
[04:48] <bongfrog> one sec
[04:48] <DaSkreech> I got it
[04:49] <bongfrog> er ya o=0
[04:50] <DaSkreech> try logout then in the console do mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup
[04:51] <bongfrog> DaSkreech:  that is where i am right now...  no joy just a bubble background
[04:52] <DaSkreech> bo
[04:52] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: You logged out then moved it and logged back in ?
[04:53] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: killed x jumped to the console .      Now I also moved kde4   lets see...
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Where did you move ~/.kde4 to ?
[04:54] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: kde4-orig
[04:54] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:55] <zgmf-x42s> s
[04:56] <DaSkreech> t
[05:04] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: Any Ideas I need to find some shuteye if not....   thanks for all the kelp
[05:04] <bongfrog> er a no kelp just help
[05:04] <DaSkreech> bongfrog: no go?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> but a new user works?
[05:04] <bongfrog> DaSkreech: correct .   even after a reboot with both .kde and .kde4 moved I still get the bubbles of death...  grin
[05:05] <DaSkreech> copy your kmail settings and stuff into the new user and use them for mail in the time being
[05:05] <DaSkreech> I need to learn more about dbus but it seems to be a really comon occurence for apps
[05:05] <DaSkreech> I was looking p error messages while you were gone
[05:06] <bongfrog> DaSkreech:  thanks again need sleep
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ok night
[05:06] <demi> anyone good with Compiz?
[05:07] <demi> For instance trying to use wobbly windows and it just says <Shift> <Button1> and that doesnt work though when trying to drag or whatever etc.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> demi: long time since I used compiz but I think that should just be on once you enable it
[05:12] <wtf_> i think ubuntu's edition of amule is screwey
[05:12] <demi> that and cant get the cube to work either heh
[05:12] <wtf_> ALL downloadds are corupted.
[05:12] <wtf_> ALL ofem
[05:12] <wtf_> WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:12] <wtf_> what a waste of time, and bandwidth, and electricity for keeping my PC running.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> cause
[05:14] <DaSkreech> demi: you can get any of the effects working?
[05:14] <demi> Not really..
[05:15] <demi> maybe one, but I dont think that's a effect of compiz.
[05:15] <demi> its <Super> Ctrl
[05:15] <demi> Stars that follow the mouse..
[05:15] <DaSkreech> demi: Maybe your drivers aren't setup correctly
[05:20] <demi> Some of the stuff works, but not the main 3d options for some reason.
[05:21] <wtf_> i sense careless development/maintanance on kubuntus amule.
[05:21] <wtf_> ALL downloads are corupted
[05:43] <chairman> does anyone have FLYBACK
[05:44] <DaSkreech> wtf_: maybe the package is wrong?
[05:50] <noren> hi all
[05:51] <noren> how to check if my nvidia drivers are installed
[05:51] <DaSkreech> lsmod | grep <drivername>
[05:52] <noren> DaSkreech: lspci | grep -i nvidia << what does this command give me then
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Your card
[05:54] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129106/ << i have tried installing nvidia drivers from system>hardware drivers but it always stall so i dont know if it is installed
[05:55] <noren> nvidia               6909268  0
[05:55] <noren> agpgart                42184  1 nvidia
[05:55] <noren> i2c_core               31892  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[05:56] <DaSkreech> looks like it's there
[05:58] <noren> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[05:58] <DaSkreech> that says that the nvidia driver is loaded and agpgart and i2c_core are using it
[05:58] <noren> this is what i get when i try to run the nvidia server setting
[06:11] <L057Adm1n> well have u tried sudo nvidia-xconfig  and then restarting your computer =P  sorry jumped in this about 20 min la8er but im bored
[06:14] <DaSkreech> L057Adm1n: May want to use his name so that he sees that
[06:16] <noren> L057Adm1n:DaSkreech:  but there is an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/129111/
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !info pkg-config
[06:17] <DaSkreech> noren: You probably need that ^^^
[06:19] <L057Adm1n> hm to be honest i gave up on trying to update my driver for my video card ATI Radeon 9200.  use the one from adept. and after restart computer freezes during loading and wont load.
[06:19] <L057Adm1n> used the one from ati website and on restart.  screen says can not display input
[06:22] <iraqsat> hi
[06:22] <iraqsat> I need you assist in KDE case
[06:23] <noren> wow it did get activated for sure ...now i got green patches all over my display.... and have a a very poor resollution
[06:23] <iraqsat> hello any body help
[06:25] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: With?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> noren: Might have to tweak the resolution yourself
[06:25] <iraqsat> one min phone
[06:25] <iraqsat> :)
[06:26] <noren> i am uploading a screen shot please take a look
[06:26] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: I have server called clarkconnect
[06:26] <noren> http://imagebin.ca/view/Y_QTjFsB.html
[06:26] <Roxy> Out of curiosity, I have just recently done a complete reinstallation of Kubuntu with Intrepid (sp?) and every few seconds when there is activity on KDE it flashes a mirrored snapshot of what is on my screen at the moment
[06:27] <iraqsat> I configured flixsharde in it
[06:27] <Roxy> What could cause this? :O
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Roxy: Mirrored? Everything is reveresed?
[06:27] <Roxy> Yeah
[06:27] <Roxy> but only for just a moment
[06:27] <iraqsat> the windows users can access the server and can read the office documents
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Press alt+shift+F12
[06:27] <Roxy> it's really really really annoying
[06:27] <Roxy> okay
[06:28] <iraqsat> but the kubuntu users can access the server but they can not open the office documents
[06:28] <DaSkreech> any error message?
[06:28] <noren> DaSkreech: do u find the grid like pathces in the screenshot
[06:28] <iraqsat> no
[06:28] <DaSkreech> noren: I see it that's annoying. Might be a refresh rate needs setting correctly
[06:29] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: ?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> What happens when they try to open the office documents
[06:29] <iraqsat> it's not opened but they can open imag files pdf file
[06:29] <wtf_> are there any better slide show programs than open office?
[06:29] <wtf_> open office impress sucks. im trying to read a teachers mathematical slides.
[06:30] <DaSkreech> So anything else but office files ?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> oh ha ha I think I know what's happening?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> They are using openoffice ?
[06:30] <iraqsat> but office
[06:30] <Roxy> Oh I see what you did there
[06:30] <chairman> i got problems..i download a program like timevault and it doesn't automatically use a program to open it
[06:30] <Roxy> With your clever shortcut for reinstallation
[06:30] <iraqsat> yes openoffice
[06:31] <Roxy> and all your microprocessors and 1's and 0's
[06:31] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Openoffice doesn't speak Kio or Gio you will have to copy the files across. Openoffice doesn't know how to read across the network like that
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Koffice probably woluld though ...:-/
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Roxy: It stopped doing the mirroring ?
[06:32] <Roxy> What
[06:32] <Roxy> Oh
[06:32] <Roxy> No it did not
[06:33] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: or rather if You can get OO.o to do them then I'm not sure how
[06:34] <DaSkreech> chairman: What is timevault?
[06:34] <iraqsat> OO.o?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> OpenOffice.org
[06:34] <iraqsat> what is that means?
[06:34] <iraqsat> aha
[06:34] <DaSkreech> it's the full name of Openoffice
[06:34] <DaSkreech> most people call it OO.o for short
[06:34] <iraqsat> ok got it
[06:35] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Gnome and KDE apps use smb:/path/to/file which is a neat trick
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Openoffice being neither Gnome or KDE knows how to do that
[06:35] <RPS> while you are on the topic ...will the new OO.o be included in Jaunty?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:36] <DaSkreech> The new $APP is always included once it's released before freeze
[06:36] <chairman> it's been out for linux .it's like apple time machine w/o the 3d effects.....yet
[06:37] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: I need to assist me with this issue if you can. my question is can the kubuntu users oppen OO.0 ?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> chairman: Ha cute. So what did you expect it to open with?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Actaully that's a good question let me try
[06:38] <chairman> with ark or something
[06:38] <chairman> it just asks me to open with what app...as with anything else for kubuntu
[06:39] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: Ok sir I will be wait for you
[06:40] <chairman> never mind i got it thanks
[06:40] <RPS> I got a little baffled with my Kubuntu experiment ....when I came back over to Ubuntu I now have some things that kept their K look.
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Like?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: ha yep you are right doesn't open
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Hi Roxanne
[06:45] <Roxy> Yo
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Dilly
[06:45] <Roxy> What would you recommend for my KDE problem
[06:46] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: So... what is the solution ?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: CIFS ?
[06:47] <iraqsat> DaSkreech:  CIFS ?? what is that means?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> It's the replacement for smbfs
[06:47] <DaSkreech> You can mount the samba share as if it was a directory on the computer
[06:47] <DaSkreech> once it has the local URL then OO.o can read it fine
[06:48] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: I am new on KDE what is that means and who can I mount the samba share ?
[06:48] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: can you guide me step by step please ?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: what is your role in the organization ?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> !samba
[06:49] <iraqsat> yes samba
[06:50] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Right you are what in the organization ?
[06:50] <iraqsat> I  am administrator
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Roxy: Didn't work?
[06:51] <deadlyninja> im getting errors like this in my dmesg: "[  884.578381] ata7: SError: { DevExch }" how can figure out which physical device ata7 maps to?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: ok do you understanding mounting in UNIX ?
[06:51] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: no I don't sir
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Do you understand mounting in general?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> For anyother OS?
[06:52] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: no :(
[06:52] <DaSkreech> (Yes I realise there is basically only one other OS)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> ok You know how to format a drive ?
[06:52] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: yes
[06:53] <DaSkreech> ok when you are formatting a drive you are putting a file system on the hardware
[06:53] <iraqsat> yes
[06:53] <iraqsat> I mount the first one as root
[06:53] <DaSkreech> a file system is a description of files where they are and how to access them
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:53] <iraqsat> and the sec as swap area
[06:54] <DaSkreech>  So in UNIX you mount file systems
[06:54] <iraqsat> and the 3rd as home
[06:54] <DaSkreech> and you mount them on the FHS
[06:54] <DaSkreech> The Filesystem Hierarchy standard
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !fhs
[06:54] <iraqsat> ok ?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> You can read up on it there
[06:54] <DaSkreech> But unlike windows there is one root
[06:54] <DaSkreech>  /
[06:54] <iraqsat> right
[06:55] <DaSkreech> In Windows there are as many roots as you have partitions
[06:55] <iraqsat> right
[06:55] <DaSkreech> technically they all come under My Computer but that doesn't really count
[06:55] <DaSkreech> So when you mounted /home you mounted a new file system
[06:55] <iraqsat> ok ?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Which I assume was a partition on the same drive right ?
[06:56] <iraqsat> no it's just one partitioon
[06:56] <DaSkreech> ok where did you get /home from ?
[06:56] <iraqsat> 1- /
[06:57] <iraqsat> 2- swap area
[06:57] <DaSkreech> second drive ?
[06:57] <iraqsat> 3- home
[06:57] <DaSkreech> right
[06:57] <DaSkreech> but where is 3 coming from ?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> a different drive?
[06:57] <iraqsat> no same drive
[06:57] <iraqsat> I have just one drive
[06:57] <DaSkreech> and same partition ?
[06:58] <iraqsat> no different partition
[06:58] <DaSkreech> right
[06:58] <DaSkreech> so it's a different partition on the same drive ?
[06:58] <iraqsat> right
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Right cool
[06:58] <DaSkreech> you could have put in a second drive and mounted that as /home as well
[06:59] <iraqsat> right
[06:59] <DaSkreech> in fact you could put in a USB drive and mount that as /home
[06:59] <DaSkreech> as long as you can describe the file system you can mount as a directory in UNIX
[07:00] <DaSkreech> so if you put in a USB drive it comes up as /media/something
[07:00] <iraqsat> right
[07:00] <DaSkreech> once it recognizes the file system
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Ok So here is the cool part
[07:00] <DaSkreech> You can do that across the network as well
[07:00] <DaSkreech> so you can mount a remote computer as a directory
[07:00] <iraqsat> how is that ?
[07:00] <iraqsat> ok?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> just mount the file system
[07:00] <jrperpetu> hi! i'm Jose from Philippines. I'm new to Ubuntu and I find it great. Since I'm neophyte to it, I never knew on how to network wherein my 3 desktop can meet and be able to share resources such as printer. can anybody help me? Please!
[07:01] <DaSkreech> jrperpetu: Welcome!
[07:01] <DaSkreech> and also if it helps
[07:01] <DaSkreech> !ph
[07:01] <jrperpetu> thank!
[07:01] <jrperpetu> thanks!
[07:01] <DaSkreech> jrperpetu: Jucato is a nice person to talk to :)
[07:02] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: really sorry but I can't get it
[07:02] <iraqsat> :(
[07:02] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Ok you understand the concept?
[07:02] <jrperpetu> thanks!
[07:02] <iraqsat> DaSkreech: no :(
[07:02] <DaSkreech> UNIX doesn't care where the files are as long as it can speak to it and understands the file system then it will treat it like a local file
[07:03] <jrperpetu> i'll try next time. thanks. i need to go now........
[07:03] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: So when you have a USB stick in there
[07:03] <DaSkreech> you get say /media/sdb1
[07:03] <iraqsat> right
[07:03] <iraqsat> until now i understand you
[07:03] <DaSkreech> when you cd in there you are moving out of your computer into the USB drive
[07:03] <iraqsat> right
[07:04] <DaSkreech> so it's just like any other directory except you are now somewhere else
[07:04] <iraqsat> ok
[07:04] <DaSkreech> all the programs can see it fine and they don't know or care that it is a different partition or a different drive or a different deice
[07:04] <DaSkreech> device
[07:04] <DaSkreech> for them it's just another directory
[07:05] <DaSkreech>  / and /etc and /var/cache/apt looks exactly the same as /home for your computers
[07:05] <DaSkreech> in fact if you don't tell people they can't tell that /home is a different partition
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Where as in windows they would get a new drive letter
[07:05] <DaSkreech> right ?
[07:06] <iraqsat> right
[07:06] <DaSkreech> right so we are going to take the samba machine that you have and make it a local directory
[07:06] <iraqsat> ok
[07:07] <DaSkreech> so when any program looks at it it's just like any other directory even though the file are on a different device
[07:07] <DaSkreech> in this case a computer across the network
[07:07] <iraqsat> right
[07:08] <iraqsat> I understand what you mean
[07:08] <DaSkreech> cool so for that we need something that describes how the files are on the computer and how to get it across the network so that users don't have to figure that out
[07:08] <DaSkreech> which is CIFS
[07:08] <DaSkreech> so if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:08] <iraqsat> aha
[07:08] <iraqsat> great
[07:08] <DaSkreech> There is a line that says //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[07:08] <DaSkreech> That's from /etc/fstab
[07:09]  * Slartibartfast reads with interests the explanations of DaSkreech, and thinks he does a great job :-)
[07:09] <DaSkreech> the part you want to notice is a) the first part describes how to get to the computer across the network and then cifs which is the file system youwill be using
[07:09] <DaSkreech> you will have to install cifs on the computers of course
[07:09] <DaSkreech> !info cifs
[07:09] <DaSkreech> booo
[07:10] <DaSkreech> !info smbfs
[07:10] <DaSkreech> hooray! :)
[07:10] <iraqsat> right
[07:10] <iraqsat> so in my case I have to install each computers with CIFS and SMBFS ?
[07:11] <iraqsat> am I right ?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> smbfs installs cifs
[07:11] <iraqsat> got it
[07:11] <DaSkreech> iraqsat: Yes but you can do that in like 50 seconds
[07:11] <iraqsat> how is that ?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> small shell scripts are great :)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> do you have ssh turned on for the machines ?
[07:11] <iraqsat> can you guid me please ?
[07:11] <iraqsat> yes
[07:12] <DaSkreech> then you can just write a shell script that loops through the network and runs ssh admin@[replacewithipaddress] 'sudo apt-get install --yes smbfs'
[07:13] <DaSkreech> and it will go to all the machines login start the install logout and then move to the next machine
[07:13] <iraqsat> ok I will try to do it now
[07:13] <iraqsat> and I will be back for you
[07:14] <DaSkreech> then you may want to make a link for the users to where ever you decided to mount the share
[07:14] <DaSkreech> so they don't have to go looking for it
[07:14] <DaSkreech> drop it in /etc/skel
[07:15] <iraqsat> ok
[07:15] <iraqsat> got it
[07:15] <iraqsat> I will try now
[07:15] <iraqsat> and go to smok
[07:15] <iraqsat> :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> that way when you make a new user they will have it setup automatically
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Slartibartfast: thanks
[07:17] <Slartibartfast> DaSkreech: Nice to see somebody helping the community  this way :-)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Well I was helped hopefully quite a few others help as well
[07:18] <Slartibartfast> I think so
[07:19]  * DaSkreech goes back to work
[07:39] <yao_ziyuan> what is the deb repository of getdeb.net?
[07:43] <devilsadvocate> hi, can someone tell me how i can give all permissions pertaining to /dev/ttyUSB0 to a specific user. I basically need to interface with a usb device, and it refuses to work without root...
[07:46] <DaSkreech> yao_ziyuan: it's on getdeb.net
[07:47] <DaSkreech> devilsadvocate: Direct interface ?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> hi AmyRose
[07:47] <AmyRose> Hi
[07:47] <devilsadvocate> DaSkreech, not direct per-se... an application called avrdude
[07:48]  * AmyRose is starting to like Quassel, but still can't wait for Konversation to be ported to KDE 4
[07:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> devilsadvocate: sudo yourself
[07:49] <DaSkreech> or at least the app
[07:50] <devilsadvocate> DaSkreech, yeah, that works. I was hoping to have a more streamlined solution. dont want to go mucking through makefiles, and i dont want to run a whole stream of things with sude
[07:50] <devilsadvocate> sudo*
[07:51] <devilsadvocate> but i guess im just being picky
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[07:51] <DaSkreech> devilsadvocate: You don't want to run that one app with sudo ?
[07:52] <devilsadvocate> DaSkreech, that app is typically run from within a makefile, which also runs a bunch of other things.
[07:53] <devilsadvocate> DaSkreech, yeah. im probably just being difficult :) . thanks anyway
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> is there anything like slogger (activity logger) for firefox?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> well then in the makefile set that one app to be sudo instead of every random thing the makefile runs
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: you dont need sudo to build binarys, only install them to the system proper, you can build the source in ~ and yuo wont need sudo
[07:56] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, i know
[07:57] <AmyRose> Whenever I change the cursor theme, why does it only change 3 of the cursor images?
[07:57] <AmyRose> I'm using KDE 4.2.1 on Intrepid
[07:59] <AmyRose> Like if I change to the DMZ-Black theme, all that gets changed is the normal arrow, the normal arrow with the spinner, and the crosshairs
[08:06] <uu> #irchelp
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose: try in #kde
[08:14] <AmyRose> ActionParsnip: Just did
[08:22] <wtf_> open office impress is god awful, is there anything better?
[08:22] <wtf_> i just want to view some math slides
[08:23] <wtf_> dont tell me i gotta go duel boot to view slides.
[08:23] <larsaam> wtf_: tried oo.org3?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> wtf_: could run office throught wine maybe, or install a viewing app that will run under wine
[08:26] <doleyb> wtf_: tried kpresenter ?
[08:26] <wtf_> wine?  just to view slides?
[08:27] <wtf_> i'll try kpresenter
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> wtf_: its one solution, its not the ONLY slution
[08:29] <wtf_> kpresenter is even worse
[08:29] <wtf_> i just get an error "could not export file"
[08:30] <wtf_> and it wont even let me close the program with out killing it.
[08:30] <wtf_> god this linux crap sucks.
[08:30] <wtf_> i'll just go to the library
[08:30] <wtf_> sheesh
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> *koff*loser*koff*
[08:59] <Roxy> Oh so, KDE4 is still for whatever reason spasming every once in awhile and producing a flash of my current display usually reversed
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Roxy: which kde4?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> 4.1? 4.2? 4.2.1?
[09:01] <Roxy> Oh um let me check
[09:01] <Roxy> I am pretty sure it's 4.1
[09:03] <noaXess> hi all
[09:03] <will-shand> hey
[09:03] <noaXess> does anybody work with pidgin on kde4.2?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: indeed
[09:03] <Roxy> Any ideas? I would update kde4 but I'm not aware of any way to upgrade the entire suite
[09:03] <fliegenderfrosch> noaXess: yes
[09:03] <noaXess> connection problem with icq?..
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Roxy: 4.1 is pretty horrific compared to the stability of 4.2
[09:04] <will-shand> anyone else using jaunty kubuntu?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i dont us icq man
[09:04] <Roxy> That is what I thought! \o/
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | will-shand
[09:04] <Roxy> How do I upgrade to 4.2?
[09:04] <fliegenderfrosch> Roxy: afaik it is in the intrepid backports
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Roxy:  KDE 4.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[09:04] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: hm.. is use it.. and no there is an error, cause an old pidgin client..
[09:04] <Roxy> cool
[09:04] <noaXess> googling...
[09:04] <fliegenderfrosch> Roxy: so you can enable the backports in sources settings and do an update
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: you could try the latest release, the one on the repo is slightly old but you need to get the debs for the new pidgin manually (not hard) and install them
[09:05] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: you mean download from pidgin.im
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i think getdeb has it, websearch round to see what you can find
[09:08] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thanks.. found it.. http://www.getdeb.net/release/3960
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: cool, download all those debs then use globbing to install them all at oce
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> you will need to remove the old first (i think)
[09:08] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: globbing?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:09] <pippo__> irc.darkartika.net
[09:09] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: aha.
[09:10] <noaXess> ok.. removing old pidgin.. should i save my settings?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i think libpurple might need installing first but just humour it and it should be ok
[09:11] <noaXess> ok.. see ya later..
[09:17] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ha.. now it works..
[09:17] <pippo__> irc.nullus.org #bw
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: maybe its a bug in the old version. Id submit a bug saying that the new version fixes it
[09:19] <noaXess> ok.. then the new version will bei in the repos.. later ;)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: it may well push it
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: but it will help people if they websearch and find yourpost (put the link in theer too)
[09:24] <noaXess> okay..
[09:24] <noaXess> on launchpad.net right?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[09:28] <antares> hola alguien por aqui???
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !algeria
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> antares: espaniol?
[09:30] <raphink> !spanish
[09:31] <antares> hde españa no
[09:32] <raphink> antares: por aqui se habla ingles solo
[09:32] <antares> ok
[09:32] <antares> i try
[09:32] <raphink> si quieres ayuda en espanol, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es
[09:32] <raphink> o puedes probar en ingles ;)
[09:33] <antares> XD
[09:34] <antares> someone now how share folder on kde 4.2?????
[09:34] <aleks_> всем привет
[09:35] <antares> sorry my bad english
[09:35] <raphink> privet aleks_
[09:35] <aleks_> возможно ли в кубунту настроить контекстное меню, чтобы открывалось при перетаскивании файла правой КМ?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> antares: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:35] <raphink> govarish po angliskiy?
[09:35] <raphink> !russian
[09:36] <antares> ActionParsnip: i did this but still dont work
[09:37] <aleks_> тут русские есть?
[09:37] <raphink> aleks_: niet, tyt - angliskiy
[09:37] <raphink> aleks_: na #ubuntu-ru  russkie est'
[09:38] <aleks_> спасибо :)
[09:38] <raphink> aleks_: nie za tchto
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> antares: if you've installed samba you should be able to right click folders -> sharing
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> antares: or manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> !samba
[09:39] <raphink> de Janeiro :)
[09:40] <raphink> to share a folder for a short time, there is also the great python command : python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[09:41] <raphink> which shares the current directory on HTTP, port 8080
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> raphink: pretty nice
[09:42] <raphink> yes
[09:42] <raphink> and you can add a port number to it
[09:42] <raphink> python -m SimpleHTTPServer 1234
[09:42] <raphink> will share the current dir on port 1234
[09:42] <antares> (you should be able to right click folders -> sharing) this dont work
[09:42] <devilsadvocate> can someone help me fix my keymappings?
[09:42] <devilsadvocate> please
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: whats exactly wrong with them?
[09:45] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, my quotation marks are not exactly quotation marks, apostropies too, both act like modifiers to the next key to the phonetic symbols, tilda needs to be pressed twice before it shows up
[09:45] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: well it seems you moved to a foreign nation
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: is your keyoard in the correct language?
[09:46] <devilsadvocate> doleyb, so it seems to me as well. keyboard is us english. i set it to us english
[09:46] <devilsadvocate> let me verify though
[09:47] <devilsadvocate> erm.. how can i get to the kde control panel from a command line (hw issues forced me into xfce.. so..)
[09:47] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: kcontrolcenter
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> systemsettings
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> xfce is awesome
[09:48] <devilsadvocate> sorry, fluxbox, not xfce. xfce is nice, yes, fluxbox more so
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> oh i use fluxbox on all my systems, can't beat it imho
[09:49] <raphink> if you like lightweight environments, you might enjoy lxde aswell
[09:49] <raphink> although there's always much lighter than fluxbox, like wmii2 for example
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> raphink: cheers, i'll bob it on
[09:50] <raphink> but then it's a of a purist approach, cause if you run firefox on it, it east so much memory that the difference between the various WM become insignificant
[09:50] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, doleyb my keyboard is set to us, pc104. my keyboard itself is an old sony vaio keyboard
[09:50] <raphink> s/east/eats/
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> raphink: opera here. I have a mind of my own
[09:51]  * raphink goes to buy new fingers
[09:51] <devilsadvocate> oh, wait. it says map us variant intl
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: that'll do it
[09:51] <raphink> ActionParsnip: I care to use open-source software
[09:51] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, that isnt doing it :(
[09:51]  * devilsadvocate wonders if his keyboard is not a generic 104 key thing
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> raphink: i just find firefox bloated and a little over rated
[09:52] <raphink> I completely agree ActionParsnip :)
[09:52] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: check that you don't have any Accessibility key modifiers turned on?
[09:53] <raphink> that's why I can't wait for Google's native linux Chrome version
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> plus if you use kubuntu and install firefox, welcome to fluffsville
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> as long as it doesnt pull all that gnome rubbish into my kde system i'm fine
[09:53] <raphink> ActionParsnip: well, as long as many websites don't support standards, it's hard to use konqueror on most of them
[09:53] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, doleyb  "Yay". it was the intl variant of us keyboard that was the problem
[09:54]  * devilsadvocate can finally code in peace again
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> raphink: indeed so i use opera
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> raphink: 100Mb for firefox is OTT
[09:55] <raphink> ActionParsnip: agreed, I just don't really like opera and I don't like using proprietary software when I don't have to
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> true true i try to avoid but if i can keep my system small i'll bite the bullet
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> theres kazachase and swiftfox too
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> i cant spell kazachase, its a firefox variant you get in fluxbuntu by default
[09:56] <raphink> ah ok
[10:01] <antares> thamks i can do now
[10:01] <raphink> great
[10:13] <estan> hm. after someone commits something to intrepid-updates, how long before it's available with aptitude update?
[10:14] <estan> i just got a notice on a kernel bug i've been following that a fix is in intrepid-updates, i've been using custom-compiled kernel debs to work around it until now.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> estan: as soon as the user apt-get updates it will be downloadable
[10:14] <estan> hm. well it's not there yet.
[10:14] <estan> the commit was maybe 10 min ago.
[10:15] <estan> just wondering if there's some lag between mirrors or something.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> estan: sounds likely. I'd try in an hour or so just so you know its done
[10:15] <estan> yea.
[10:16] <estan> hm. but how does it work if i've manually installed kernel debs with dpkg -i, will aptitude see an updated kernel in repo as an update?
[10:16] <estan> or do i have to aptitude remove the version installed from deb first?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> estan: if the version number is later it will upgrade it
[10:17] <estan> (the debs i used are http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp193970-intrepid/ and the commit to intrepid-updates is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/193970/comments/153)
[10:17] <estan> okay. cool.
[10:18] <estan> hm. is there a way with aptitude search to see which version is in repo?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> estan: apt-cache search <whatever>
[10:18] <estan> ah right, the kernel versions have the version in their package name.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <estan> yea.. hm. i pasted the wrong url, that was the commit against jaunty repos.. it seems it's not visible on LP eventhough i got an e-mail about it.. (Andy Whitcroft did the commit)..
[10:21] <estan> or wait. it is visible, but just as a status update, he didn't leave a comment about it.
[10:21] <estan> ah, Fix Commited doesn't necessarily mean it has been pushed out to repos?
[10:22] <estan> i mean, should it say Fix Released before i can expect it to turn up in repos?
[10:23] <estan> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/193970 is the bug)
[10:24] <estan> or no.. Fix Released probably just means it's in a release..
[10:25] <omni360> hello
[10:25] <omni360> could anyone give me some help??????????
[10:26] <estan> hm. i think my deb installed kernel has a higher version number than the fixed one in repo.. so maybe i should remove the deb version to get the update?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !ask | omni360
[10:30] <ermes> ciao a tutti
[10:30] <ermes> mi serve una mano
[10:30] <ermes> con kubuntu 8.10
[10:30] <ermes> c'è qualcuno??
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> !spanish
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[10:31] <ermes> c'è qualche italiano=
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !it
[10:31] <ermes> ?
[10:35] <estan> hm. all of sudden i get a GPG error when running apt-get update.. "Följande signaturer är ogiltiga: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:35] <estan> ("the following GPG signatures are invalid..")
[10:35] <estan> any ideas?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> estan: you need the gpg key for the repo you just added
[10:39] <estan> ActionParsnip: i didn't add any repo. but yes that worked.
[10:39] <estan> weird.
[10:39] <estan> the only thing i did was dpkg -r the kernel i had installed from deb.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> estan: well you must have added a repository otherwise you wouldnt have this new error
[10:42] <estan> ActionParsnip: yea, well i didn't. i'm 100% sure.. not knowingly at least.. maybe the dpkg -r process did it..
[10:42] <estan> anyway, worked after adding the key.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> cool
[10:56] <anil_> my wall paper sets to default every time i reboot.
[10:56] <anil_> any reason for that??
[10:57] <anil_> anyone??
[11:28] <shal3r> How to downgrade KDE after i removed kubuntu-experimental software source?
[11:29] <bazhang> shal3r, downgrade from 4.2 back to 4.1? on intrepid?
[11:30] <shal3r> bazhang, is 4.2 in kubuntu intrepid by default now?
[11:31] <bazhang> shal3r, its from backports at this point, and was not ready for intrepid release
[11:31] <bazhang> shal3r, next version will be however
[11:31] <bazhang> ie jaunty (#ubuntu+1)
[11:32] <shal3r> ok
[11:32] <shal3r> One user is using kubuntu-experimental to get kde 4.2 on ubuntu and he is experiencing plasma crashes after update from 4.2 to 4.2.1
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade
[11:33] <bazhang> you could try puregnome'ing it and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop, but I think that would leave a mess tbh
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> oh lots is my guess
[11:33] <bazhang> oh the newest of the new :)
[11:34] <michalgreg_> irenairena
[11:45] <shal3r> "The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)."
[11:46] <shal3r> ubuntu intrepid - kde 4.2.1
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> shal3r: ok, is it still running: ps -ef | grep plasma
[11:47] <victim> I had that for as well, I disabled desktop effects and plasma stopped crashing
[11:47] <victim> however the screen flickers for 10 seconds every time I start up
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> shal3r: you could rename plasma* in ~/.kde/./share/config/
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> shal3r: then reboot to rerun plasma with stock settings
[11:50] <victim> when the screen is flickering the mouse pointer moves fine but the screen seems to take a long to time to draw - the 'k' menu takes several seconds to pop up, however with effects disabled I can work fine
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> victim: have you installed video drivers?
[11:56] <micha_> my firefox keeps starting in offline modus ... any one know why and how to change that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> micha_: theres a fix for this
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> micha_: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/31925
[11:58] <micha_> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:58] <shal3r> ok, i will tell him to try
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> micha_: all better?
[12:03] <micha_> still trying ActionParsnip
[12:04] <micha_> yes ActionParsnip setting the toolkit.network.disable on true did the trick thanks for the link
[12:07] <victim> ActionParsnip: I have an ATI HD4670 and I'm using the ATI 9.2 drivers
[12:07] <victim> Kubuntu 8.10, with kde 4.2
[12:08] <victim> kde 4.2.00
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> victim: try resetting xorg.conf and reinstalling / reconfigure the driver. Try a lower refresh rate
[12:15] <max484> Can anybody offer me assistance installing Kubuntu 8.10?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> max484: sure wassup
[12:18] <max484> I've got a Toshiba a300/500 notebook
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> max484: did you md5 check your ISO as well as verify the cd was ok on the first boot screen?
[12:18] <max484> loading the CD is fine
[12:18] <max484> vista-64 is on my C drive
[12:18] <max484> I formatted my D drive ...
[12:18] <max484> intending to install kubuntu there
[12:19] <max484> D: is now NTFS
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> you will have an easier life if you boot to vista and remove the partition holding the space you wish to use for ubuntu
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> max484: ubuntu wont install on ntfs
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> max484: xif you delete the partition, linux will see it and offer to use it
[12:19] <max484> ok
[12:20] <max484> oh, sorry
[12:20] <max484> its not a partition, C and D are separate HDDs
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> it's still a partition
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> you can delete the partition in linux but if you do it in windows you will know its the right one
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> max484: then they are partitions occupying the whole drive
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> it's just a partition which covers an entire drive. You can't use the drive at all unless there's a partition on it :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> max484: its still a partition
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> max484: it just makes sure you are modifying the correct part of the system
[12:21] <max484> clearly I need to be more attentive in computer science lectures :P
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> so you need to remove the partition from your D disk, then use the kubuntu installer to create a new one on the disk
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> max484: by default the installer looks for nice empty disks read to recieve the goodness
[12:22] <max484> ok
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> max484: if you run sudo fdisk -l you will see your disks with partitions
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> max484: once you have deleted the D partition in windows
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> max484: you will see a drive (E.g /dev/sdb) with no partitions defined. Thats where youo point the installer to to put linux on so it doesnt damage windows
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> max484: you will ALSO need to point your BIOS at the other disk as it will install grub as well as the boot uoptions to fire up windows
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> max484: but you have done  adual boot the easy way, windows first then linux
[12:26] <max484> thank you, ActionParsnip and SlimeyPete, for your help
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> np
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> max484: just go slow and read everything
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> max484: and remember the sudo fdisk -l  hint ;)
[12:36] <JuJuBee> How does one go about creating a new chanel and the bot that answers questions like !wifi etc.... ?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: creating a new channel is easy
[12:37] <bazhang> JuJuBee, channel creation help in #freenode ; bot can be supybot amongst others
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: just joing a channel that doesnt exist. It will be spawned and you will be admin
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: the room will live as long as there are users in it
[12:37] <JuJuBee> That's cool
[12:38] <JuJuBee> Thanks, I will join #freenode
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: you could /j #ilikebigbuttsandicannotlieyouotherbrotherscantdeny
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> if you want
[12:39] <JuJuBee> Yeah, I think I will pass on that one... ;)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> and have the topic as how awesome is sir mixalot
[12:40] <dixon2081> i have a question, how do i get the taskbar in kde 4.1 to become unlocked? it was working earlier but for the past hour it has been locked and i cannot unlock it, as the right click option does not work anymore as i no longer get the right click menu to work, any tips on how to fix this?
[12:41] <dixon2081> i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kubuntu and xubuntu desktops
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: try renaming plasmarc and plasma-applet (or whatever its called)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: to find them run: cd ~/.kde; find -name plasma*
[12:44] <dixon2081> ./share/apps/plasma
[12:44] <dixon2081> this is what i got in response
[12:44] <panos4ever> lol
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: ok then cd ~/.kde/share/apps
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: killall plasma; mv plasmarc plasmarc_old
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: oops
[12:46] <dixon2081> o.O
[12:46] <dixon2081> O.O
[12:46] <dixon2081> right after i typed it O.o
[12:46] <dixon2081> and hit enter O.O
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: cd :~/.kde/share/config; mv ./plasma-appletsrc ./plasma-appletsrc_old; mv ./plasma ./plasma_old
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> its cool, if its renamed anything its no biggy
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> ok run that then type plasma &
[12:47] <dixon2081> bash: cd: :~/.kde/share/config: No such file or directory
[12:47] <dixon2081> mv: cannot stat `./plasma-appletsrc': No such file or directory
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> and plasma settings will be set to defaults
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: haha ok delete the : near the start of the command
[12:48] <dixon2081> oh
[12:48] <dixon2081> was just looking back at that... >.>
[12:48] <dixon2081> lol
[12:48] <dixon2081> thought something did not look right
[12:48] <dixon2081> oops
[12:50] <dixon2081> mv: cannot stat './plasma' : No such file or directory
[12:50] <corigo1> I lost my notes... which file holds apt's get configuration list?
[12:50] <ubuntu__> fr ?
[12:50] <ghostcube> !fr
[12:50] <dixon2081> this is what i typed cd ~/.kde/share/config; mv ./plasma-appletsrc ./plasma-appletsrc_old; mv ./plasma ./plasma_old
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: all better?
[12:56] <dixon2081> mv: cannot stat `./plasma': No such file or directory
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> dixon2081: you need to find those files in that folder and rename them basically
[12:56] <dixon2081> eep
[13:01] <rmrfslash> I'm looking for a good linux OS X-like dock.
[13:01] <rmrfslash> Right now, Cairo-Dock seems to be the leader of the pack (when version 2 is done), is this the consensus?
[13:01] <bazhang> awn, cairo-dock come to mind
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:02] <bazhang> hi!
[13:02] <rmrfslash> I think if the developer(s) of cairo dock really focus and hammer out some bugs, version 2.0 should be as close to OS X as you're gunna get.
[13:03] <rmrfslash> from my testing
[13:03] <rmrfslash> but I saw some images on google that seemed to have other docks that I just couldn't find
[13:03] <rmrfslash> all are developed for gnome of course
[13:04] <rmrfslash> Why does everyone develop for GTK?
[13:04] <rmrfslash> Mozilla, VMware, OpenOffice, etc.
[13:04] <rmrfslash> all friggin' gtk
[13:05] <rmrfslash> I mean, I like KDE a lot, but no one is migrating to Qt.
[13:05] <rmrfslash> or it seems that few people are.
[13:12] <pedro__> hi, I need help, can anyone help me?
[13:12] <Dr_willis> and the problem is?
[13:12] <pedro__> i can't shutdown my computer
[13:14] <Dr_willis> ok.. thats slightly vague...  :) care to give some more details?
[13:15] <dixon2081> ok so i got it fixed now:)
[13:15] <dixon2081> thank you all for your help
[13:15] <dixon2081> just needed to restart after all that :p
[13:15] <dixon2081> made a newb mistake o.O
[13:16] <pedro__> yes sorry, when i atempt it completes the bar of kubunto but does not shutdown just stays there and i have to push the boton my self
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:19] <Dr_willis> You mean to say the pc dosent POWER OFF after you use the shutdown menu items..
[13:20] <pedro__> yes
[13:20] <Dr_willis> Now ya know what to google for on the forums at least. :)
[13:20] <Dr_willis> sounds like a typical apci/apm issue with some machine/bios's
[13:21] <Dr_willis> No idea what to do to try to 'fix' it..  every time ive had the issue.. the next release of the disrto/newer kernel fixed it
[13:21] <Dr_willis> You might want to disalbe the splash screens so you can see what messages are going by. there may be a clue in there.
[13:22] <pedro__> and how do i do that? I  instaled yerterday kubunto i think it is crt+alt+F1, right?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> I would spend time learning linux basics.. and just rember to use the power button.. for now.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> the CONSOLE is alt-ctrl-f1 thriough F6.
[13:23] <[-Haza-]> heheh
[13:23] <[-Haza-]> did you know that \o/ renders a little dancing man on Skype?
[13:23] <pedro__> thanks
[13:23] <Dr_willis> the 'spash' is the feture of linux that has the pretty bars as the system boots/shutdowns  - i HATE those.. because they cover up messages that you may want to see
[13:24] <pedro__> lol
[13:24] <[-Haza-]> whoops. Sorry this is the wrong channen!
[13:24] <Dr_willis> You can disavble those by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[13:26] <pedro__> I have to go, but thanks for the help I'll come back later. See ya
[13:36] <noren> hi all
[13:44] <noren> i got a small prob
[13:45] <noren> created a new user , but when i log out it goes to blank screen but not back to the login screen has neone seen the same prob
[13:45] <Dr_willis> ive seen issues with video card drivers cause that.
[13:46] <Exilant> is there anything like hotplug for bluetooth-devices?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> on one machine i 'fixed' it by  altering the kdm/gdm configs to 'always restart X server' as an option..
[13:46] <Exilant> like, start gpsd if a certain bluetooth gps is detected?
[13:46] <noren> because using alt ctrl backspace works fine
[13:46] <noren> and also the switch user
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> Exilant: just plug in your dongle and it will pickup then pair away
[13:46] <W8TAH> hi folks:  since this weekend, my kubuntu comptuers have insisted on locking themselves about 15 minutes after i last use them -- its a great behaviour if i want it but i dont how do i turn this off
[13:47] <Dr_willis> noren,  so alt-ctrl-backspace will force X to exit and get you back to the KDm login screen?
[13:48] <noren> Dr_willis: yes
[13:48] <Exilant> ActionParsnip1: and say, i power on sth. later, that needs special daemons or so, like a gps device, or a wiimote
[13:48] <Dr_willis> noren,  thats weird.. sounds like KDE is hanging on exit then.
[13:48] <max484> hello again, just wanted to say thanks again for the help, ActionParsnip1 and SlimeyPete
[13:48] <Exilant> will that get paired automatically, and where could i add aome action?
[13:49] <noren> Exilant: ofcoourse u got to pair it
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> max484: np man
[13:51] <Exilant> won't it autopair if it has been paired before?
[13:51] <noren> Dr_willis: so is there any way to check where exactly the prob llies
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> Exilant: not sure man, i dont use it much
[13:51] <Dr_willis> noren,  no idea. Ive gotten where i rarely use kde4 any more.
[13:52] <noren> Exilant: if u have already paired if before it will
[13:52] <Exilant> ok
[13:52] <Dr_willis> noren,  you could login to X with just a xterm. (the X failsafe menu item) and try startkde from  the terminal, then exit kde.. it 'should' show any error messages in the xterm window..
[13:52] <Exilant> i found some gentoo docs, i'll read them and then ask the remaining questions :)
[13:53] <Exilant> thanks for helping so far
[13:53] <noren> Dr_willis: ok i will try
[13:53] <noren> Exilant: sure
[13:54] <amgarching> hi, what is the proper way to set the workstation "hostname" based on the DHCP response in Ubuntu?
[13:55] <noren> !hostname
[13:57] <genii> amgarching: If your dhcp server is ubuntu based you can also set some name options through the dhcpd.conf
[13:58] <amgarching> genii: dhcpserver send the proper name, Kubuntu does not respect that setting using the static /etc/hostname
[13:59] <genii> amgarching: You need to have matching settings in the client dhcp.conf (client file)   that the dhcpd.conf (server file) has
[14:00] <W8TAH> hi folks:  since this weekend, my kubuntu comptuers have insisted on locking themselves about 15 minutes after i last use them -- its a great behaviour if i want it but i dont how do i turn this off
[14:03] <noren> W8TAH: what do u mean, check the power management
[14:05] <W8TAH> noren: it will play an obnoxious sound and then lock the screen -- so i have to enter my password to get back to it
[14:06] <W8TAH> noren: that was it -- thanks
[14:07] <noren> W8TAH: check the system setting >> advanced tab >> power management
[14:07] <W8TAH> ya that was it -- thanks a ton
[14:07] <noren> W8TAH: hope it solved it !!
[14:08] <W8TAH> noren: it did thanks
[14:08] <noren> W8TAH: ur welcome
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> go go noren :)
[14:09] <noren> ActionParsnip1: i thought of start helping also !! :)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> noren: i told you you'd get it eventually :D
[14:17] <JuJuBee> Is there any way to play BlueRay on kubuntu yet?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> !bluray
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Blu_Ray_and_HD_DVD_on_Ubuntu_the_steps_the_software_the_screenshots
[14:18] <genii> My bluray plays fine
[14:24] <noren> which is better quassel or konversation
[14:24] <Dr_willis> noren,  use them both and YOU decide..
[14:25] <noren> i just installed quassel
[14:39] <ShishKabab> Hi. I've made a KDE4 app with CMake. I have a rule in my CMakeLists.txt "install(FILES skphpideui.rc DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/skphpide". This used to work fine but it doesn't work correctly anymore (the file is installed to the wrong dir). Can anybody help?
[14:41] <noren> !ffmpeg
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> !info ffmpeg
[15:00] <noaXess> what software can i use to make network diagramms?
[15:01] <Dr_willis> dia, :) or i seem to recall some other app that can do that.. but I forget what it was called.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> !info dia
[15:01] <Dr_willis> and i recall some non-ubuntu specific apps also that do that.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> maybe
[15:01] <Dr_willis> i saw some java app (i think) that scanned the network and did a littl diagram automatically for you
[15:02] <noaXess> Dr_willis: you know the app names?
[15:03] <Dr_willis> Nope.. I just recall seeingit ages ago
[15:03] <noaXess> ok
[15:03] <Dr_willis> actually uit might of been a windows app that was 'tested' to work with wine.. that was theior linux support. :)
[15:03] <noaXess> i search a app like m$'s visio
[15:03] <Dr_willis> this app just scanned the network and gave a little interactive chart of all devices found
[15:14] <MrLDK> noaXess: <ubottu> dia (source: dia): Diagram editor.
[15:15] <noaXess> MrLDK: found it.
[15:15] <noren> is there any good guide available for memcode or ffmpeg usage... i needed to convert mkv to avi
[15:15] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: Get an error trying to configure mplayer as per directions... Error: The GUI requires libavcodec with PNG support (needs zlib).  libavcodec51 is already installed and zlibc is installed
[15:15] <MrLDK> noaXess: you have too umbrello (UML) and kivio
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> apt-cache search zlib
[15:16] <genii> noren: http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html
[15:17] <JuJuBee> zlib1g?
[15:21] <noren> !info libfaad
[15:22] <noaXess> !info kivio
[15:23] <BentFranklin> !info antivirus
[15:23] <JuJuBee> genii : can you assist with mplayer config so i can play blueray?  Error: The GUI requires libavcodec with PNG support (needs zlib)  apt-cache search zlib returns many results many of which are already installed.
[15:23] <BentFranklin> !info AVG
[15:24] <BentFranklin> I have Kubuntu 8.10 / KDE 4.1.  Interested in AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition 7.5 for Linux <<http://free.avg.com/download?prd=afl Debian based distributions (Debian, Ubuntu)>>.  Anyone have any experience with this pro/con?
[15:24] <noren> avg anti virus
[15:25] <noren> BentFranklin: do we really need an antivirus
[15:25] <JuJuBee> BentFranklin: I don't use av for linux
[15:25] <JuJuBee> I do use it on my win machine at home (my wife's computer)
[15:26] <noren> JuJuBee: i dont feel like having one on kubuntu as fo yet ?? is it really necessary
[15:27] <BentFranklin> There must be *some* linux virii...
[15:27] <JuJuBee> noren : Is what?  Blueray?
[15:27] <genii> JuJuBee: I don't know much about mplayer. I'm just using kaffeine with xine backend
[15:28] <noren> JuJuBee: /avg
[15:28] <JuJuBee> genii : plays bd?
[15:29] <genii> JuJuBee: Yup. On my 8.10 desktop, with medibuntu repos
[15:29] <noren> BentFranklin: havent heard of them as of yet !!
[15:30] <BluesKaj> !Virus | BentFranklin
[15:30] <BentFranklin> Maybe not viri, but rootkits?
[15:31] <noren> BentFranklin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136064 << see this
[15:31] <BluesKaj> BentFranklin , same thing ..read the URL posted above
[15:31] <BentFranklin> k, reading
[15:31] <JuJuBee> genii : after adding the repos, will an update enable this for me?
[15:35] <amgarching> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/129355/ I dumped the unvironment in which /sbin/dhclient-script is running, I cannot find $new_host_name there. What could be the reason. There is a request for host-name in /etc/dhclient.conf.
[15:35] <genii> JuJuBee: I did not have to do anything specifically weird, just enabled medibuntu repos. Altho I have also -proposed repo enabled.
[15:36] <JuJuBee> Telling me the disc is encrypted.  M I SOL?
[15:36] <genii> JuJuBee: Make sure you have the libcss3 (I think is the name)
[15:37] <genii> libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 or 3
[15:37] <BluesKaj> genii , prerelease updates ?
[15:38] <genii> BluesKaj: Not sure. I'm currently at work and can't check the box this stuff is on directly
[15:38] <genii> I didn't have to do any weird tinkering though, as I said earlier
[15:39] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, telling me to  sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh  I did and still no joy.
[15:39] <gorgonzola> anoyone knows how to debug acpi issues?
[15:39] <genii> JuJuBee: Maybe it's a newer bluray disc with different encryption :(
[15:40] <gorgonzola> ie, is there some kind of verbose output to detemine where some acpi process fails (tipically, resume from suspend to disk/ram)
[15:40] <JuJuBee> Dunno, Harry Potter Order of Phoenix
[15:40] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, also libk3b3-extracodecs
[15:41] <BluesKaj> genii , I'm trying the prerelease updates to see what happens ..prolly dangerous but that's my mood today :)
[15:48] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj :  thanks, but still no joy.
[15:49] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: thanks, but still no jo
[15:50] <JuJuBee> *joy
[15:50] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, sry , i had to reboot ...what is your error/prob again ?
[15:58] <Ezh> граждане подскажите "молодому" как установить приложение из исходников. (если вопрос слишком глупый, не глумитесь)
[15:58] <Pici> !ru | Ezh
[15:59] <noren> !mencoder
[15:59] <noren> info !mencoder
[15:59] <Ezh> ÇÒÁÖÄÁÎÅ ÐÏÄÓËÁÖÉÔÅ "ÍÏÌÏÄÏÍÕ" ËÁË ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ÉÔØ ÐÒÉÌÏÖÅÎÉÅ ÉÚ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÏ×. (ÅÓÌÉ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ ÇÌÕÐÙÊ, ÎÅ ÇÌÕÍÉÔÅÓØ)
[15:59] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: Kaffine telling me disc is encrypted and need to install libdvdcss ... sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh
[16:00] <noren> !info mencoder
[16:00] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee , sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[16:01] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee , make sure you hasve the medibuntu repos in your sources.list
[16:02] <JuJuBee> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[16:02] <JuJuBee> Sry, wrong box... my bad
[16:02] <JuJuBee> already installed
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss
[16:04] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, repos not there now...
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[16:05] <JuJuBee> What do I add to the srcs?
[16:09] <genii> JuJuBee: If you go visit the medibutu website, it has all the istructions there
[16:10] <genii> Bah. My keyboard needs cleaning
[16:10] <genii> especially the "n" key, seems
[16:12] <amgarching> which DHCP client are you using? See the output of "dpkg -l | grep dhcp"
[16:13] <genii> The standard on ubuntu is usually dhcp3-server
[16:14] <genii> (client is same ver just clientt)
[16:15] <genii> AFK
[16:15] <amgarching> "aptitude show dhcp-client" says it is "Provided by: dhcpcd, pump, udhcpc", However I see only "dhcp3-client" installed. Why so?
[16:16] <fernando> hi
[16:16] <fernando>  i need help
[16:16] <Guest43616> i need see terminal from 1 web pag
[16:17] <Guest43616>  it's by ciber
[16:17] <SlimeyPete> what's "ciber"?
[16:20] <Guest43616> i'ts
[16:20] <Guest43616> like
[16:22] <Guest43616>
[16:22] <Guest43616> cyber is that there are 5 quarter or more computers, so that is to give internet access to people with few resources or do not provide Internet
[16:25] <Guest43616> any is expert with programation with server/client ?
[16:26] <genii> amgarching: Because dhcp3-client is the one which gets installed by default. As I stated just earlier
[16:28] <kurumin> ha
[16:28] <JuJuBee> genii : i already followed them for 8.10.  I assume they wont be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:29] <genii> JuJuBee: No, they get installed to a subdir in there
[16:29] <JuJuBee> Ah, I see them now.... /sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[16:29] <JuJuBee> K
[16:29] <amgarching> quote from http://oldwww.isc.org/sw/dhcp/dhcp_rel.php?noframes=1 "The host-name option and a few others were moved from "X" format to "t" format to be compatible with new NULL handling functions. ". Does that affect interoparability of pre- and post 3.0.4 versions of ISC DHCP software?
[16:30] <JuJuBee> Well, then I am at a loss.  Can't get the bd to play....
[16:33] <genii> JuJuBee: I'll be at home 6 hours from now. If you're around then I can check the box there which plays them fine and see whats installed, etc etc
[16:43] <sandersjake50> hi
[16:55] <marcel_> hi
[16:56] <genii> !hi
[16:58] <sandersjake50> lll
[17:18] <pulaski> Hello,  I'm using the kubuntu menu editor to add a new app.  What is the "Work path;"
[17:22] <pulaski> In the kde menu editor "Command:" input field I've put the path to the app name (/usr/bin/app) but what is the convention for the "Work path:" input field?
[17:31] <panos4ever> hi people
[17:40] <amgarching> Ok, I solved DHCP problem. The DHCP server didnt derive the hostname from the section name as advertized in docs, one needs to explicitly tell the server: host HOSTNAME { fixed-address HOSTNAME; option host-name "HOSTNAME"; ddns-hostname "HOSTNAME"; ... }. Dont ask me why it worked with SuSE.
[17:40] <reisi> hi everyone! broke my kubuntu 8.10's plasma (or nepomuk, can't figure out) yesterday and thought of going with kubuntu 9.04 alpha5.. as there seem to be some issues with wireless in the original alpha5 can it be updated during the installation phase?
[17:41] <EagleScreen> reisi yes, you can upgrade
[17:41] <mwaha> hello everyone i have this problem.. i have my hdds broken up to different partitions. my linux partition i wanted to format and so i formatted that and my swap linux partition. now i downloaded kubuntu instead of ubuntu to install because i wanted to try out the KDE enviroment. However now the installation wizard don't detect all of the partitions but only a disk
[17:43] <EagleScreen> mwaha how many hard disks have you got?
[17:44] <mwaha> well basically two, but they're broken up to quite a few partitions. I have a 1. windows 2. data 3. work 4. linux
[17:46] <EagleScreen> and ubiquity only detects one disk?
[17:46] <mwaha> yup
[17:47] <mwaha> only one partition, which i guesisng is data
[17:48] <blmm> My dad is on 8.10. He has a HP LaserJet 4 that is set up properly. Something in Kubuntu keeps trashing hs setup by autoinstalling either (1) a generic line printer or (2) HP LaserJet 4 [Postscript], none of which works with his printer of course. What is resonsible for this badness and can it be turned off?
[17:49] <JuJuBee> genii : thanks, I prolly won't be, but I can check back tomorrow.
[17:51] <reisi> EagleScreen: great.. then i do not need to keep my laptop on ethernet for ever.. do you know if 9.04 is on schedule or delayed?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> bimm, perhaps if you check in adept which [rointer drivers are installed and read the properties of them , you can determine which one to remove
[17:52] <BluesKaj> printer drivers
[17:52] <EagleScreen> mwaha check your partitions with GParted, if they were removed or broken by accident, you will have to remake them, play always much atention and caution when working with partitions, and NEVER use PowerQuest Partition Magic
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !partition magic
[17:53] <blmm> BluesKaj: I'm not sure you can remove individual printer drivers from CUPS?
[17:53] <EagleScreen> reisi y wireless network is detected by 9.04, I made the upgrade today
[17:54] <EagleScreen> blmm yes you canç
[17:54] <EagleScreen> the CUPS drivers are inside some pakages
[17:54] <BluesKaj> blmm, well check anyway ... maybe you can use 'sudo  dpkg -r appname ' in the terminal to remove
[17:56] <blmm> Even if I did, I would guess the autoinstaller would try to install *something*. Anyway. Thanks.
[17:58] <mlanger> hi! how to adjust the taskbar to only show the tasks from the current desktop? (i have kde 4.1.4 and clicking on the 'wave' symbol does not gives any options menu etc. just a black bar over the taskbar where i can add widgets...
[18:01] <doleyb> mlanger: right-click between two tasks and press Taskmanager Settings
[18:02] <ZzZZZzzzzZZ> Ù
[18:02] <olskolirc> I cant seem to get kdm to start
[18:02] <olskolirc> any help?
[18:03] <doleyb> olskolirc: well what happens instead of kdm starting?
[18:03] <mlanger> ZzZZZzzzzZZ: ohh, thanks!
[18:03] <olskolirc> gdm keeps starting instead doleyb
[18:03] <Tm_T> olskolirc: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" in konsole ?
[18:04] <doleyb> olskolirc: or apt-get remove gdm, lol
[18:04] <olskolirc> thanks Tm_T
[18:04] <Tm_T> doleyb: wrong way, really (:
[18:05] <mlanger> doleyb: thankyou, this works!
[18:05] <Tm_T> mlanger: ok
[18:14] <ronin_> I just switched over to kubuntu and I have a lot of apps where the text shows up blank are there some font libraries or something I have to install?
[18:23] <owner> kkmmyykkeeyybbooaarrddiissttuucckk
[18:23] <amgarching> My firefox strikes. After not a very clean shutdown.  The back-nutton still is always disabled and there are no prompts in address bar. Firefox has no memory anymore! How to fix?
[18:23] <owner> hhoowwooddooiiffiixxiitt
[18:24] <owner> ///////
[18:27] <victim> owner: replace your keyboard :)
[18:29] <victim> or try adjusting the values in K menu / system / system settings / keyboard and mouse
[18:29] <Exilant> in marble, does anyone else find the blurred text quite annoying?
[18:29] <victim> what's marble?
[18:29] <Exilant> that globe application
[18:30] <Exilant> (kde4 only)
[18:32] <amgarching> Is there a way to fsck sqlite database?
[18:33] <kuaera> Hmm. xcompmgr seems to be extremely taxing whenever I use it lately, as if every window is translucent or something. There is a short pause after I bring up the Kickoff launcher, as the plasma theme makes the background of Kickoff transparent
[18:33] <kuaera> So, I'm confused. Why is there a delay /after/ the rendering?
[18:34] <goofey> kuaera: is your computer swapping?
[18:34] <RurouniJones> amgarching: Er, no, fsck is for filesystems, not files
[18:34] <kuaera> goofey: No, I don't believe so. I have 768mb RAM, and minimal programs running.
[18:35] <kuaera> kuaera: Though it's not really a technical indicator, the HDD isn't active when I'm having these pauses
[18:35] <goofey> kuaera: you can check by typing "free" at the command line
[18:35] <kuaera> s/kuaera/goofey/
[18:35] <goofey> kuaera: hmm, well, it was just a guess
[18:36] <kuaera> goofey: You, uh, may be on to something, though
[18:37] <kuaera> Xorg is using 51 megs of memory... IIRC, that's rather high.
[18:39] <kuaera> goofey: Now 56 megs of memory... No applications have been launched, just watching the System Activity program. Something is wrong D:
[18:40] <vital> kuaera, something is leaking memory, mine is up to 700mb now, after a few days uptime.. :P
[18:41] <kuaera> vital: Are you on Jaunty too? Are you using compositing?
[18:41] <vital> kuaera, I'm on jaunty, using compositing on NVidia-driver
[18:42] <vital> without compositing I think it's around what you have.. ~50mb
[18:42] <kuaera> vital: I see. I'm using the 'ati' driver, here.
[18:43] <vital> kuaera, ah.. you got the ati-proprietary or the opensource version? if proprietary, did you get it to work with the current x-org ABI?    I have trouble with ati on my laptop
[18:43] <toto__> ciao
[18:43] <kuaera> vital: The opensource version... Fglrx scares me.
[18:44] <toto__> !list
[18:44] <vital> kuaera, same here, only got Fglrx working one time and that was when I tried ubuntu in august last year :P  well, the opensource version is ok anyway :)
[18:45] <kuaera> vital: I'm a patient person, really, and with the attitude of AMD regarding their drivers, I'm sure that the ati driver will keep improving.
[18:45] <owner> pl
[18:46] <vital> kuaera, I guess you are right, I can wait, I only use the laptop when I'm away for coding, so I dont really need any speed or 3D-support :) so I'll wait a bit longer.
[18:47] <kuaera> vital: I was just so happy with xcompmgr last night, before I noticed the performance hit :< Set up a new theme on my laptop. Really nice.
[18:50] <vital> kuaera, yes, compositing is a performance hog :( hopefully the opensource ati-driver will get better accelleration for compositing, as I guess the proprietary driver is a lot faster?
[18:51] <kuaera> vital: Perhaps. I'm just more concerned with the fact that the slowdown gets worse with more opaque windows, and the pause comes /after/ the translucent effects have been rendered
[18:52] <toto__> ciao
[18:53] <toto__> !list
[18:53] <coreyman> so my "configure file sharing" button does not work on folders, what should i do
[18:53] <vital> kuaera, owh, that sound a bit weird.. have no idea why it would behave that way.. sounds really odd.
[18:57] <amgarching> fcntl64(3, F_SETLK64, {type=F_RDLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=1073741824, len=1}, 0xbfdc09d4) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:57] <amgarching> how do I find who is holding the lock?
[18:59] <toto> ciao
[18:59] <toto> !list
[19:01] <praj_> how to run .bat file in ubuntu
[19:01] <fosco__> praj_, are you sure it is a linux file?
[19:01] <praj_> no
[19:01] <fosco__> so, do not run it
[19:03] <praj_> actualy i have downloaded XMLSpy 2008 but to run it i have to run crack.bat
[19:03] <fosco__> a bat fule use to be an MS-DOS command lines script
[19:04] <fosco__> that can not be run in a linux box
[19:04] <fosco__> file*
[19:04] <praj_> i can install the software through wine
[19:04] <praj_> but to make it licensed i need to run crack.bat file
[19:05] <fosco__> try dosbox
[19:05] <praj_> how to use it can u pls guide me
[19:05] <fosco__> it is a "DOS emulator"
[19:05] <fosco__> easy to use and install
[19:06] <praj_> how to install it
[19:06] <fosco__> as everything
[19:06] <fosco__> use the package manager
[19:07] <praj_> i am new to ubuntu i only know sudo apt-get install
[19:07] <praj_> can u plzzz tell me how to use package manager
[19:07] <fosco__> apt-get is the package manager
[19:08] <praj_> k what i have to give after apt-get install
[19:10] <praj_> can u plzzz tell me
[19:11] <fosco__> dosbox
[19:12] <praj_> he thankyou i am downloading it
[19:13] <praj_> how to use dosbox to run .bat file
[19:14] <praj_> plzzzzzzz  tell i have downloaded dosbox
[19:15] <fosco__> read the dosbox docs
[19:15] <praj_> k
[19:19] <BentFranklin> ayone know how to tell gzip to quietly ignore socket files?
[19:25] <wanting_it> hi folks
[19:25] <coreyman> i cant get file sharing to work, what am i doing wrong
[19:25] <doleyb> BentFranklin: idk, maybe you can write a little script to call gzip after testing if the file is a socket or real
[19:26] <ronin_> coreyman: what kind of file sharing?
[19:26] <BentFranklin> doleyb: This is for full system dumps, and the files seem to vary depending on what's running
[19:26] <coreyman> ronin_ samba here is my config http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m50213544
[19:28] <goofey> BentFranklin: have you looked at rsync and rsnapshot?  The catch to s system backup (of a live system) is that your copy is then "live"
[19:28] <ronin_> coreyman: is it giving you an error when you try to start it or are you just having problems connecting?
[19:28] <praj_> how to run .bat file through dosbox
[19:28] <sushiX> i am getting low resolution on my Nvidia card much less than its capable of after in install the propertitary driver any one have a solution ?
[19:28] <fosco__> praj_, :-(
[19:29] <coreyman> ronin_ i cant see it in the network from my windows machine
[19:29] <praj_> plzz guide me i have opened the dosbox
[19:29] <ronin_> coreyman what if you try connecting manually?
[19:29] <goofey> praj_: dosbox has nothing to do with kubunt - you might find a channel better suited to dosbox (or you can try dosbox --help)
[19:29] <coreyman> ronin_ all i want to do is share [coreyman_linuxshare] path = /mnt/windows comment = Corey's linux shared files. available = yes browsable = yes public = yes writable = no
[19:29] <coreyman> ronin_ how do i connect manually
[19:30] <BentFranklin> goofey: I'll look into those, thanks
[19:30] <praj_> plzz
[19:30] <goofey> BentFranklin: good luck - backup is an interesting/deep topic
[19:31] <BentFranklin> surprisingly so, yes
[19:31] <ronin_> coreyman: I dont have a windows box but I from any explorer window you can do Tools -> Connect or something like that
[19:32] <ronin_> coreman: the server would be //computer-host-name/coreyman_linuxshare
[19:32] <goofey> BentFranklin: and it's tough to do a backup of a "live" filesystem
[19:32] <ronin_> coreyman: also, you should be able to see the share advertsied from your linux box
[19:33] <coreyman> ronin_ where at
[19:33] <BentFranklin> I could do it from a Live CD I guess, but it wouldn't be automatic anymore
[19:33] <coreyman> samba shares?
[19:33] <ronin_> coreyman: probably, you're using kubuntu?
[19:33] <coreyman> ronin_ yes, there is nothing in samba shares
[19:33] <ronin_> coreyman: how did you start samba sharing?
[19:34] <goofey> BentFranklin: true.  One option is a dump using a livecd and then automatic rsync (or rsnapshot) on the files that might change
[19:34] <coreyman> i installed it, figured it started up automatically with the system
[19:34] <goofey> BentFranklin: just thinking out loud here
[19:35] <praj_> how to run setup.exe file fro cd
[19:35] <ronin_> coreyman: from terminal try doing smbclient //server/share -U user%password
[19:35] <ronin_> coreyman: if that fails then smb is probably not even running
[19:36] <coreyman> Domain=[MANSHACKS] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.2.3]
[19:36] <coreyman> Server not using user level security and no password supplied.
[19:36] <coreyman> Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled
[19:36] <coreyman> tree connect failed: SUCCESS - 0
[19:36] <praj_> plzz anybody knows how to run setup.exe file in ubuntu from cd
[19:37] <coreyman> praj_ ... wth this is kubuntu
[19:37] <coreyman> praj_ you have to download and configure wine
[19:37] <coreyman> ubuntu does not open .exe natively
[19:37] <praj_> what is the diff btwn kubuntu and ubuntu
[19:37] <ronin_> coreyman: sounds like its not doing auth through your regular user and is just looking for a shared pass, try connecting without the user
[19:38] <coreyman> ronin_ ok
[19:38] <coreyman> I just did smbclient //coreyman-desktop/coreyman_linuxshare and it asked me to enter coreyman's password, same error.
[19:39] <praj_> plzz anybody knows diff btwn kubuntu and ubuntu
[19:39] <coreyman> hold on ronin_ ill change it to user instead of share
[19:39] <kage> i need help with mp3 playback
[19:39] <ronin_> coreyman: you might need to add client ntlmv2 auth = no to your conf...
[19:39] <ronin_> coreyman: I take that back, that will not help
[19:40] <amine> salut
[19:40] <gabriel> hello gentlemen. I just installed latest kubuntu and I got KDE 4.1, not 4.2... why is that?
[19:40] <coreyman> ronin_ crap i forgot where the dang config file is.. where is it again
[19:40] <goofey> praj_: the difference is kubuntu has kde as it's desktop, ubuntu uses gnome
[19:41] <praj_> can anybody plzz tell me how to run ,bat file from dosbox
[19:41] <ronin_> coreyman: /etc/samba/smb.conf probably
[19:41] <coreyman> ok that worked
[19:41] <praj_> k
[19:41] <goofey> praj_: no - this is not a dosbox support forum!
[19:41] <kage> Gabriel: its because kubuntu was released with 4.1 not 4.2
[19:42] <coreyman> smbclient //coreyman-desktop/coreyman_linuxshare
[19:42] <coreyman> Enter coreyman's password:
[19:42] <coreyman> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[19:42] <kage> can someone assist me with my mp3 playback issues
[19:42] <goofey> gabriel: 4.2 will be in kubuntu 9.04, or you can install from these intructions: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-stable-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[19:43] <goofey> !question | kage
[19:43] <ronin_> coreyman: try uncommenting the the share for the user home directory (lines 235-237 in your conf) then restart smb with /etc/init.d/smb restart and try connecting to your home directory
[19:43] <kage> okay... why the hell dosent it let me use mp3 formats
[19:43] <ronin_> coreyman: then you'll know if its a problem with the individual share config or something else
[19:43] <gabriel> goofey: have u tried kde 4.2? Is it "worth" the update, and is it stable?
[19:43] <goofey> kage: mp3 is not supported
[19:43] <goofey> kage: "out of the box" due to licencing issue
[19:44] <kage> how do i make it supported i was told that it could
[19:44] <goofey> gabriel: I like it, seems to work better than 4.1
[19:44] <coreyman> ronin_ i got in, anonymous login successful...
[19:44] <goofey> kage: you can, one sec
[19:44] <ronin_> coreyman: w00t
[19:44] <coreyman> ronin_ how can i set up a user.
[19:44] <kage> ty goofey
[19:45] <gabriel> goofey: i recently ran ubuntu 8.10 and had NO problems. In kubuntu 8.10, it's a bit buggy, altogh now I actually went for 64 bit. Right now, it annoys me a bit that firefox doesn't render it's gui perfectly. the tabs in FF look a bit buggy :/
[19:45] <goofey> kage: try this: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq
[19:45] <ronin_> coreyman: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/create-a-samba-user-on-ubuntu/
[19:45] <gabriel> goofey: ah cool... perhaps i should do the upgrade then, provided it's not too complicated
[19:46] <coreyman> ronin_ still can't see it on windows
[19:46] <goofey> gabriel: the upgrade seems to work ok but I had soem issues with plasma
[19:46] <ronin_> coreyman: you on xp?
[19:47] <goofey> gabriel: but I'm not a huge fan of upgrading over old files - that's just me
[19:47] <coreyman> ronin_ vista
[19:47] <kage> ya goofey this site just confused me and whe i was done doing what it said i had to reinstall kubuntu
[19:48] <goofey> kage: the kubuntu FAQ site?
[19:48] <kage> ya it brought me to another site
[19:48] <ronin_> coreyman: hit windows-R and then type in the share
[19:49] <coreyman> ronin_ cannot find
[19:49] <gabriel> thank u goofey
[19:49] <coreyman> also.. when i log in as coreyman locally, it says domain is [COREYMAN-DESKTOP] but when i log in anonymously locally it says domain is [MANSHACKS]
[19:49] <goofey> kage: this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:49] <goofey> gabriel: anytime
[19:50] <kage> yes that one
[19:50] <kage> its instuctions confused me
[19:50] <kage> and also messed kubuntu up
[19:50] <goofey> kage: what version of kubuntu?
[19:51] <kage> intrepid
[19:51] <ronin_> coreyman: if you can connect locally and the machines are on the same network you should be able to connect, you're sure you typed in teh share correctly? You could also just try the server //COREYMAN-DESKTOP I imagine
[19:51] <gabriel> anyone knows if i can make my side mouse button work as a back button in nautilus or dolphin? Amazingly, now Firefox let me use the side button out of the box! yay!
[19:51] <goofey> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" is neither complicated nor should it mess up kubuntu
[19:52] <kage> it dosent allow me to do that command
[19:52] <kage> the final line says couldnt find kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:53] <gabriel> goofey: "Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids."  -- by "uninstall", what do they mean here? I removed the ones on my desktop... ?
[19:53] <coreyman> ronin_ i know it should work correctly, but its not
[19:53] <goofey> gabriel: that's the part that messed me up - it was a test box so I didn't worry about it much
[19:53] <noren> hi guys
[19:54] <ronin_> coreyman: shrug, sorry. You may want to go over to the #ubuntu channel (since there is no difference as far as samba is concerned) you might get better help
[19:54] <coreyman> ronin_ ok
[19:54] <gabriel> goofey: and u have no idea even now when you read it? uninstall any plasmoids... do they mean if you added more than what came as a default, out of the box?
[19:55] <ronin_> coreyman: I don't really use samba anyway, I almost exclusively use afp with avahi(bonjour). Its more full proof
[19:55] <noren> how to reboot my dsl router frm CLI, my knetworkk manager sometime dies on me after some time, and have to reboot to get it connected
[19:55] <goofey> gabriel: that's my best guess - yes
[19:55] <goofey> gabriel: otherwise, it should overwrite any that were provided by it before
[19:56] <goofey> kage: is it possible you typed the package name wrong - it should be there
[19:56] <kage> kage@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:56] <kage> Reading package lists... Done
[19:56] <kage> Building dependency tree
[19:56] <kdavey> Good day gents
[19:56] <kage> Reading state information... Done
[19:56] <kage> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:56] <kage> is what i get
[19:56] <gabriel> goofey: let's hope so :)
[19:56] <goofey> kage: isw this ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:57] <kage> kubuntu
[19:57] <kage> 8.10 intrepid
[19:57] <fabio_> list ubuntu brasil
[19:57] <goofey> kage: what does kubuntu-restricted-extras - Commonly used restricted packages say?
[19:57] <goofey> !pg | fabio_
[19:58] <fabio_> sorry mistake
[19:58] <kage> im not sure how to find that goofey
[19:58] <goofey> kage: sorry, I meant: apt-cache search restricted | grep kubuntu
[19:59] <kage> ???
[19:59] <goofey> !br | fabio_
[20:00] <fabio_> thanks
[20:00] <goofey> kage: that's a command - search apt for the package
[20:00] <goofey> fabio_: anytime
[20:00] <kage> i typed that in konsole and it didnt do anything
[20:00] <noren> kage: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu
[20:01] <goofey> kage: when was the last time you did an sudo apt-get update?
[20:01] <noren> kage: whats the prob are u trying to install kubuntu restricted package
[20:01] <goofey> noren: he is, and it's not in his apt-cache
[20:01] <kage> it says its not there noren
[20:01] <wally> bad sources list?
[20:01] <goofey> noren: he's using intrepid
[20:02] <wally> cat /etc/apt/sources.list (or check adept)
[20:02] <kage> and goofey about 1 week ago when i installed wine
[20:03] <noren> kage: For installing this package first you need to enable the Multiverse repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list kubuntu-restricted-extras will install MP3 support
[20:03] <kage> care to walk me through that
[20:04] <fabio_> sorry again someone knows where can i find pascal of lazarus pack?
[20:04] <noren> kage: start the adept : then the source list: then select the softwarre restrictred by copyright issue
[20:06] <noren> kage: after that ; sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:08] <XPS_M1330> will Kubuntu 9.04 have Amarok 2 ?
[20:08] <noren> XPS_M1330: most llikely
[20:08] <wally> XPS_M1330:  I'm running the beta, and yes it has
[20:09] <noren> wally: i lliked the amarok nightlly buil better
[20:10] <XPS_M1330> IS there a repo I can download amarok2 from? (for intrepid)
[20:11] <wally> noren: I'm struggling to appreciate it fully, as 9.04b is rather, "unstable" on this machine ;)
[20:11] <noren> XPS_M1330: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:11] <wally> tis nice otherwise!
[20:13] <noren> wally:; i did not llike the interface especially the context part
[20:13] <attilacyilmazlar> Hi All
[20:14] <wally> I assume the nightly build you looked at is more recent that the current repo?
[20:14] <wally> attilacyilmazlar: hi
[20:14]  * wally potters off to play mariokart wii
[20:14] <jaime> Does anyone use here google calendar with evolution?
[20:14] <wally> have enough of linux at work ;)
[20:14] <attilacyilmazlar> What package should I install to able to add "show desktop" widget??
[20:15] <noren> wally:; yes it was
[20:15] <noren> attilacyilmazlar: its already there just add fr m the widget options
[20:15] <XPS_M1330> is there a good player that's kind of like foobar2000?
[20:16] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents I had to shutdown my computer due to power failure but now that the power is back on my screen resolution has for some reason defaulted to 800X600.
[20:17] <compilerwriter> How do I get it set back to where I had it?
[20:17] <coreyman> greeaatt noone in ubuntu can help either
[20:17] <wally> coreyman: what's the prob?
[20:17] <wally> compilerwriter: you using nvidia card?
[20:17] <attilacyilmazlar> noren:If I try to add it "could not find requested component: showdesktop"
[20:17] <coreyman> Can't see samba share from windows machine.
[20:18] <compilerwriter> Yes wally I am using nvidia.  I have restarted the machine with all the updates to the kernel without issue, but now from total halt I have this.
[20:18] <wally> codecyphix: how've you configured samba, using a GUI tool, SWAT or by modifying config files?
[20:18] <wally> compilerwriter: try running the nvidia configuration tool.
[20:19] <wally> on the 9.04 (I've not used the last KDE4 version), it's under "System/Nvidia X server settings"
[20:19] <noren> attilacyilmazlar: 1.unlock the widget 2.rightclick where u want to add and choose add widget... choose show widget from the new pop up
[20:19] <compilerwriter> where is that wally?  I have forotten
[20:19] <wally> compilerwriter: see if the can change it
[20:19] <wally> compilerwriter: on the 9.04 (I've not used the last KDE4 version), it's under "System/Nvidia X server settings"
[20:19] <noren> compilerwriter: goto application>>system
[20:20] <wally> compilerwriter: otherwise you can run it from the terminal: "sudo nvidia-settings"
[20:20] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: I know all of them but my Icon disapeared after some updates
[20:20] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: Same happened before also after update I resolved it by adding some packages
[20:20] <gabbah> goofey, hey :(  now i can't start X! :(
[20:20] <noren> attilacyilmazlar: are u usign kde 4.x
[20:20] <attilacyilmazlar> yes :)
[20:21] <White_Pelican> any idea when Jaunty goes to Beta?
[20:21] <attilacyilmazlar> interpid
[20:21] <gabbah> goofey, i think i have some broken packages or something
[20:21] <gabbah> what can i do to make things right??
[20:21] <wally> compilerwriter: you possibly didn't have your configuration saved, you need to run nvidia-settings as root to do so, which will involve doing "sudo nvidia-settings" (unless anyone else knows otherwise?)
[20:21] <R3DB0x> could someone tell me if there is a log file that might tell me why my pc keeps turning itself off randomly?
[20:21] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: yes KDE 4,2
[20:22] <compilerwriter> wally I am looking for it in the menu and not finding it as yet.
[20:22] <noren> attilacyilmazlar: some of the widget dont work properly in 4.2 havent tried the this widget myself lemme check
[20:22] <wally> compilerwriter: if you're happy to run it from a terminal, it's easier (as you can append "sudo" and let it save the changes permantly)
[20:23] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: ok thank you I am here
[20:23] <gabbah> guys, i tried updating to KDE 4.2 and now i can't start X, i only have command line! How can i make it right again?? :(
[20:23] <wally> R3DB0x: turning itself off, as in complete powering off without shutting down?
[20:23] <compilerwriter> could it be in hardware drivers wally?
[20:23] <gabbah> i'm running kubunu 8.10 64 bit
[20:24] <wally> compilerwriter: you enable them there, but I don't recall the tool being available there.  It's possible you're not using the "official" Nvidia drivers?
[20:24] <R3DB0x> wally: yes like i can be typing right now then bam its turned off
[20:24] <wally> R3DB0x: I would suggest it's more likely to be a hardware fault, say power supply etc
[20:24] <compilerwriter> heck wally I am firing up a terminal now.
[20:24] <noren> attilacyilmazlar: it working fine for me what it the prom with urs exactly
[20:25] <wally> compilerwriter: if you get "no such file or command" etc, I'll walk you through installing the drivers
[20:26] <gabbah> am i not supposed to have /etc/X11/xorg.conf????? It's GONE
[20:26] <compilerwriter> wally you are going to have to walk me throught it.  I have no such command
[20:26] <R3DB0x> wally: i thought so also but i have tested it and it tests fine plus i can run off my usb drive with another OS it had it doesnt do this
[20:26] <wally> R3DB0x: have you got another OS or livecd (say knoppix or something?" you can try running ?
[20:26] <R3DB0x> wally: yes did that and it runs fine
[20:26] <wally> R3DB0x: ok.  The command "dmesg" may show something, or "/var/log/syslog"
[20:26] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: when I add it on a blank widget I get the error "this object could not be created for the following reason:é
[20:26] <compilerwriter> wally should I apt-get nvidia-settings?
[20:26] <noren> compilerwriter: have you checked the Application >> System >> screen resoluition ??
[20:27] <R3DB0x> wally: i looke in dmesg and didnt see anything but i might be missing something
[20:27] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: "could not find the requested component: showdesktop"
[20:27] <wally> R3DB0x: I'm struggling to think what it could be, a total poweroff suggests something pretty critical, i.e. the core "kernel", which can be a bummer to resolve.
[20:28] <wally> R3DB0x: as it can happen at "any time", I'd rule out power saving settings etc.
[20:28] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: do you know in which package these widgets are??
[20:28] <R3DB0x> wally: like this  kernel: [ 1939.945740] hpet1: lost 1 rtc interrupts
[20:28] <compilerwriter> noren I have but I am using lancelot as my menu widget so it may not be where you are thinking it should be.  Also the only place I could find any resolutions only allowed me 800X 600
[20:29] <attilacyilmazlar> noren: that package uninstalls while upgrade on my computer donno why
[20:29] <wally> R3DB0x: shouldn't be an issue, the real time clock is missing a few hits.  Nothing major unless you're running VMWare or something which is clock critical :)
[20:29] <R3DB0x> wally: i do have vmware but it turns off even when not running it and it was doing it before i installed vmware
[20:31] <gabbah> how can i rollback the install of kde4.2? need help i have only command line.. heeeelp :)
[20:31] <wally> R3DB0x: it's a poor suggestion, but I've gotta dash :(.  I'd personally try switching off any ACPI/power management things in the BIOS, just in case.  Also unplug any PCI/USB devices you can do without and try running for a wihle.  If the problem *still* exists, try changing your kernel version (which is a bit more complicated if you've not done it before)
[20:31] <Dekans> is amarok 2.0.2 available for Kubuntu with KDE 4.2 ?
[20:31] <compilerwriter> Alright wally I am ready whenever you are to install this stuff.
[20:31] <Dekans> I don't see any update :(
[20:31] <wally> R3DB0x: if you can get it to stop by removing hardware or changing BIOS settings, you're one step closer to solving it
[20:32] <wally> R3DB0x: process of elimination :)
[20:32] <noren> Dekans: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:32] <R3DB0x> wally: ok will do....thanks
[20:32] <wally> compilerwriter: I've gotta dash, and I'm reluctant to leave you with things which might make it worse!
[20:32] <compilerwriter> ok wally
[20:32] <compilerwriter> noren you up for this?
[20:32] <Dekans> noren: so ? non update for amarok 2.0.2 ?