[03:27] <katie> only thing i've done since is use update-manager
[03:27] <linux_kid> katie, what have you done that may have killed your wireless
[03:28] <Sanne> kyle__ (and Toma-): sorry for interrupting... before you do anything: I had this same error some days before, the kernel picked up the wrong nvidia driver during boot, I resolved it with a new reboot. No idea what this was, but worth a try maybe?
[03:28] <gaten> im disableing some of my boot services. the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 suggests changing the captial 'K' in all the unused services in /etc/rc0.d/  to a lowercase 'k'. would removing executable permission work just as well or no b/c they are symlinks or that the boot process is run as root (i think)
[03:28] <katie> altho previously.. i was getting bad connections with the 2.6.17-10 kernel
[03:28] <linux_kid> katie, what did you get for the update manager?
[03:28] <katie> and had to revert back to 2.6.15
[03:28] <katie> but now that doesn't even work
[03:28] <linux_kid> katie, changing the kernel could kill the wireless
[03:28] <katie> yeah.. i'm sure it could..
[03:28] <linux_kid> lol
[03:28] <katie> i switched back to the working
[03:28] <Toma-> Sanne: kyle__ : yeh i did that. you can also "sudo rmmod nvidia"
[03:28] <katie> or rather what i thought was working
[03:29] <katie> but that fails
[03:29] <Boxxertrumps> Is this stable? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install%2eexe
[03:29] <kyle__> ok, I'll try thank
[03:29] <jexdawg> i want to install this: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/gnome/music-applet but i'm not really sure what to download. there are like 6 billion options. thats a lot. haha. can anyone help me?
[03:29] <kyle__> that
[03:29] <linux_kid> katie, did you say bcm43xx, ndiswrapper or linuxant?
[03:29] <katie> in /var/log/messages it says
[03:29] <katie> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready
[03:29] <katie> bcm43xx
[03:29] <katie> i'd never use that crap linuxant..
[03:29] <katie> uggh
[03:29] <katie> ndiswrapper was required when i first installed this laptop
[03:29] <dan_> Katie: are u a girl?
[03:29] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, ty that worked perfectly :)
[03:30] <katie> well.. the laptop is my gfs :)
[03:30] <linux_kid> katie, i use it and i have someone to ask for money back if it dosen't work :)
[03:30] <katie> i'm just logged in her name
[03:30] <katie> lol
[03:30] <katie> i set it up for her last april
[03:30] <Boxxertrumps> neat
[03:30] <Sanne> dan_: an what if katie was?
[03:30] <katie> it required ndiswrapper back then
[03:30] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, np
[03:30] <jvai> yo rylan.. what happens?
[03:30] <katie> she does use it every day up until now :(
[03:30] <blazemonger> i thought it wasn't reccomended to run a server on debian unstable but ubuntu is based on debian unstable right?
[03:30] <rylan> jvai, well, i have... sound now, but its also got a really high pitched whine also
[03:30] <katie> hasn't booted back into widows
[03:31] <katie> since
[03:31] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, now to go 1 step further.  I wanna make one folder on that drive accessible not the whole drive ?
[03:31] <linux_kid> katie, what wireless card is it using?
[03:31] <jexdawg> how do i find out if i am amd64, i386, or powerpc - what is my architecture?
[03:31] <katie> it's a minipci
[03:31] <jvai> whoot rylan.. asus issues..
[03:31] <katie> broadcom 4306 is all it says
[03:31] <dan_> anyone know a good prism2 card for use with ubuntu?
[03:31] <linux_kid> jexdawg, whats your manufacturer and model number?
[03:31] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, chmod -R xxx /mnt/win/foldername
[03:31] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, man chmod
[03:31] <jvai> rylan, the high pitch noises r from the speakrs?
[03:32] <diego> hi everyone
[03:32] <rylan> i've learned 2 important things about fixing computers. first, get a good bottle of wine, and second get your girlfriend out of the house.
[03:32] <linux_kid> katie, 4306 is it
[03:32] <Keitaru> How in ubuntu can I access shared folders on a  network which is windows [i am using ubuntu]
[03:32] <iratik> screw you guys - i'm going home
[03:32] <jvai> rylan try fidling with the sound.. lke the "line in"
[03:32] <linux_kid> rylan, good point
[03:32] <rylan> jvai, sounds like mostly one side.
[03:32] <Sanne> rylan: I find this slightly  offensive
[03:33] <krups> i'm having issues playing some cds.  it's works for some, but not others.  ideas on how to troubleshoot?  i can rip them on a windows box - just don't like to.
[03:33] <Sanne> rylan: and I don't mean the wine ;)
[03:33] <jvai> lmao @ rylan.. cause we luv the girls, but not the distractions. lolo
[03:33] <Boxxertrumps> Keitaru: if you can dual boot you could just use windows.
[03:33] <wheels3572> hey archangelpetro may I PM you or does that not work?
[03:33] <dan_> lol
[03:33] <rylan> Sanne, sorry, my girlfriend is "traditional" asian, so something like a kitten the size of a 16 year old.
[03:33] <linux_kid> krups, what kind of CD's?
[03:33] <dasickis> hey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?
[03:33] <dan_> duel boot and use windows
[03:33] <dan_> ROFL
[03:33] <Keitaru> Boxxertrumps: How do I grab files from windows
[03:33] <Keitaru> Yes I use dualboot
[03:33] <dan_> Keitaru: you have to mount your windows partition
[03:33] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, go ahead
[03:34] <krups> linux_kid: audio cds.  this one is phillip glas - solo piano.  and i'd like to rip it to flac.
[03:34] <rylan> jvai, well. i touched the "line" setting in alsa mixer and sound dissapeared /cry
[03:34] <Boxxertrumps> Keitaru: just go onto windows and get the files you need
[03:34] <Sanne> rylan: ok, lol, but please remember not to act like we (women) don't exist in this channels.
[03:34] <linux_kid> krups, like did you buy it at a store, or from your friend?
[03:34] <kyle__> cd
[03:34] <Keitaru> boxxertrump: then
[03:34] <jvai> u "touch" it & it bounced? @ rylan..
[03:34] <dasickis> hey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?
[03:34] <Keitaru> dan_: how do i mount my windows partition
[03:34] <krups> linux_kid bought it at a store - it's not a copy.
[03:34] <Boxxertrumps> id love to marry a linux user
[03:34] <dan_> Boxxertrumps: why go back to windows when u can use linux?
[03:35] <Keitaru> I am trying to transfer my music/movies onto linux
[03:35] <Sanne> Boxxertrumps: my husband did :)
[03:35] <dan_> ill help u
[03:35] <Boxxertrumps> dan_: so you can use the windows only functions
[03:35] <rylan> Sanne, hardly. i know you exist, but wouldnt you be miffed if your boyfriend kept coming up to you for lovin every 10 min
[03:35] <linux_kid> krups, im not sure, but you may have to use windows :(
[03:35] <krups> linux_kid assuming some wierd drm shit.  bleh
[03:35] <linux_kid> Sanne, good job being a female computer person
[03:35] <Sanne> rylan: yeah, of course, I understand :)
[03:35] <rylan> jvai, pretty much i was going to turn down the "line" imput and sound shut off.
[03:35] <linux_kid> krups, good point, i agree
[03:35] <Keitaru> dan_ id appreciate it :) thanks
[03:36] <jvai> lmao... i thought i was alone in that @ rylan.. soo, othr guys go thru too!!! what a joy!
[03:36] <guspad> hey!
[03:36] <IdahoEv> my new ubuntu install is not detecting my video card (ATI Radeon 9800), and is running in safe 640x480 mode.   What should I do first to fix/debug this?
[03:36] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, hmmm didnt' work your not on my buddy list or im not on yours I believe thats why tha tdont work lol
[03:36] <guspad> my nautilus is pointing the trash to /var/run :S
[03:36] <katie> so.. hmm
[03:36] <linux_kid> !ATI | IdahoEv
[03:36] <ubotu> IdahoEv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <rylan> so, does anyone have any idea why my "touching" the line setting in alsa mixer totally canceled out my sound?
[03:36] <jvai> rylan try playing around with the sound.. see if u can get it  back, by toggling things
[03:36] <Sanne> linux_kid: thanks, but wasn't much effort really, I'm drawn to that stuff (and sorry for offtopic...)
[03:37] <IdahoEv> linux_kid: grazie
[03:37] <katie> it's weird cuz this appears on every kernel in dmesg now ... ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready
[03:37] <guspad> does someone know where the config for the trash path is ?
[03:37] <Boxxertrumps> already at 7%...
[03:37] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, what are you on to logonto IRc?
[03:37] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu EXE, here i come!
[03:37] <linux_kid> Sanne, tell that to ALL of your gfs
[03:37] <katie> but i knew ubuntu would be better for her
[03:37] <lufis> guspad: dunno, but type trash:// in nautilus
[03:38] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu is the most popular starter linux
[03:38] <rylan> nothin
[03:38] <rylan> jvai, nothing helps
[03:38] <Sanne> linux_kid: I'd love to have more females with whom to talk computer and linux. More males also, for that matter. But there's always the 'net ;)
[03:38] <wheels3572> Yeah
[03:38] <Crescendo> !mdns
[03:38] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, yeah
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <linux_kid> katie, is she all for ubuntu? cause if you can help her more with gentoo, it may be better
[03:38] <Boxxertrumps> i usually argue with my best friend about Win vs Lin
[03:38] <katie> well linux distros aren't that different really
[03:38] <linux_kid> Sanne, we're in a half-perfect world :)
[03:38] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, ok to change the permissions on a directory you need to use the  chmod command..
[03:39] <katie> all have the same basic software
[03:39] <Sanne> linux_kid: yeah :)
[03:39] <lufis> guspad: it's in a hidden dir in your home... ~/.Trash
[03:39] <jvai> rylan u know what,, a reboot may solve it, & u may have to live with the high pitch sound?? it sounds crazy.. but...
[03:39] <katie> plus i know that having some ubuntu specific knowledge would be useful
[03:39] <jvai> rylan u r on dapper?
[03:39] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, to change a directory + its contents... you do something like..  chmod -R 750 /the/name/of/dir
[03:39] <katie> since lots of other people are hearing about ubuntu now
[03:39] <guspad> lufis, but it's not pointing to there
[03:39] <katie> aha.. called for food
[03:39] <katie> brb
[03:39] <lufis> guspad: what do you mean?
[03:39] <Boxxertrumps> I vote that we all go down to our local computer stores and convince the IT staff to have linux preinstalled for free.
[03:39] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, ok
[03:39] <guspad> lufis, it's poiting to /var/run
[03:40] <archangelpetro> (750 refers to 3 octal numbers denoting permissions of, USER/Group/others   which can be read in the man page for chmod)
[03:40] <rylan> jvai, i downloaded the cd deal from the ubuntu website.
[03:40] <lufis> guspad: weird. just a sec
[03:40] <linux_kid> wow, for the past 10 minutes, I though I was in the offtopic channel :) lol
[03:40] <guspad> lufis, i mean that u open the trash and u see the content of  /var/run
[03:40] <jvai> rylan "cd deal"?
[03:40] <rylan> jvai, looks like 6.10 edgy eft
[03:40] <lufis> guspad: have you made a symlink or something?
[03:41] <guspad> nop
[03:41] <Boxxertrumps> i tried downloading kubuntu, and i think i got cd to work, but my BIOS threw a startup error at me
[03:41] <jvai> ooooo! no wonder... rylan... living near the cliffs is kinda... brave.. u must be in cali
[03:41] <rylan> jvai, and there is no living with the high pitched wail. i love my music
[03:41] <linux_kid> Boxxertrumps, whats the error
[03:41] <rylan> jvai, try across the ocean, im in shanghai
[03:41] <kungfugoat> I need replacements for mediamonkey and microsoft money
[03:41] <lufis> Weird question, but: would I be completely insane to dist-upgrade to Feisty?
[03:42] <plex0r> Hi i have a problem i installed xgl and compiz but when i run thefuture in terminal i get this error plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:42] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:42] <linux_kid> kungfugoat, wine them
[03:42] <jvai> god..... rylan.. dapper , maan, for peac of mind.. u r a braver soul than myself
[03:42] <rylan> jvai, try ignorant of the differances. anychance i can downgrade?
[03:42] <linux_kid> javi, Edgy isnt that bad for desktops
[03:42] <kungfugoat> linux_kid: thanks
[03:43] <plex0r> plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:43] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:43] <jvai> rylan, i dunno, try a live cd of dapper, play around with it... it may be the solution
[03:43] <jvai> dapper is supported till '08
[03:43] <linux_kid> Is there a file like xorg.conf for sound cards?
[03:44] <guspad> lufis, yes
[03:44] <linux_kid> kungfugoat, your welcome
[03:44] <rylan> jvai, hmmm. problem is i backed up all my stuff on this now, and i have all of one CD-R left
[03:44] <plex0r> does anyone know this error for compiz and xgl
[03:44] <linux_kid> rylan, ill send you some...
[03:44] <plex0r> plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:44] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:44] <rylan> linux_kid, im in shanghai, the cost to send it would be about 800% the price of them here
[03:44] <linux_kid> plex0r, its an invalid command
[03:45] <IdahoEv> linux_kid:  thanks again, install of fglrx as per the instructions you linked worked perfectly.
[03:45] <lufis> guspad: i tried it a couple of weeks ago. everything went ok until apt started spewing errors about the metacity package
[03:45] <jvai> dapper - 6.06 .... rylan.. no extra storage.. even an extra box lying round to tranfer?
[03:45] <rylan> jvai, nah, nothing
[03:45] <linux_kid> IdahoEv, You are Very Welcome
[03:45] <plex0r> but i followed the ubuntuguide and it tells me to run that command?
[03:45] <jvai> ooooooo.....
[03:45] <guspad> lufis, gnome is still in beta
[03:45] <linux_kid> rylan: lol
[03:45] <lufis> guspad: yeah, but i don't mind a crash here and there
[03:46] <rylan> jvai, so no way to clean up the sound then?
[03:46] <guspad> lufis, ah, ok, then go ahead
[03:46] <guspad> :P
[03:46] <plex0r> ?
[03:46] <jvai> wish i could mail u 1 o mine @ rylan but.. the loooong distance mail would bankrupt me
[03:46] <lufis> guspad: well... the question is if i'll be ABLE to go ahead without borking my system :P
[03:46] <jvai> there's always a wayt @ rylan to clean up the sound.. but right now, it's beyond me
[03:47] <rylan> jvai, im going to restart, get rid of alsa mixer and try the stock one,
[03:47] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[03:47] <rylan> jvai, then, fiddle with things more.
[03:48] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin file?
[03:48] <bruenig> you don't mount a .bin file
[03:49] <aridese> bruenig, it's a CD-ROM image
[03:49] <rpc> does anyone know why mysql doesn't like my tunneled connection? can it see the difference between real localhost connect and tunneled one?
[03:49] <bruenig> really?
[03:49] <bruenig> oh that
[03:49] <bruenig> the bin and cue
[03:50] <bruenig> you can play that I believe in vlc
[03:50] <aridese> bruenig, it's a data file.
[03:50] <riotkittie> argh
[03:50] <aridese> disc
[03:51] <Frogzoo> aridese: mdf2iso is probly what you want
[03:51] <Frogzoo> rpc: only the authentication is different
[03:52] <mackinac> !iso
[03:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[03:52] <aridese> ah.
[03:52] <Frogzoo> [Ayanami] : cdemu to mount bin/cue files
[03:52] <aridese> cdemu? ightt, thanks
[03:52] <[Ayanami] > Oooh, thanks. :)
[03:52] <Frogzoo> aridese: but you have to compile, so mdf2iso is quickest
[03:53] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu exe:21%
[03:53] <aridese> why is it still so archaic to mount images though... no daemontools or similar ;( ?
[03:53] <aridese> Frogzoo: i don't mind compiling, mdf2iso bangs a bit too many bits on the hard drive :/
[03:53] <Frogzoo> aridese: all it needs is for someone to tweak nautilus - there's already a script - you just right click & mount
[03:53] <aridese> oh really?
[03:54] <aridese> ill look around for that, thanks
[03:54] <plex0r> i need help... i followed all this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[03:54] <plex0r> and i get an error
[03:54] <Frogzoo> plex0r: -> #ubuntu-effects
[03:55] <quaal> where does it say in the pfsense cd image what version it is
[03:56] <Owner> Hey, I am running the live cd for ubuntu on my laptop. is it possible to configure to connect to the internet without having installed linux?
[03:56] <aridese> Frogzoo, i have compiled cdemu, i understand it's a kernel module, do i need to do anything special for it to be loaded automatically on every boot?
[03:57] <jvai> rylan. i'm sorry i dont kno what to do , to help ya
[03:57] <null__> hello \
[03:57] <Frogzoo> Owner: is this a trick question?
[03:57] <Owner> no, it isnt.
[03:57] <null__> any one having coreduo with intel ipw3945 wireless module ?
[03:57] <null__> there is a kernel cpu bug
[03:57] <rylan> jvai, well, i have the distortion tracked down to my left speaker, im pretty sure the audio is getting muddled from my line in and possibly other data too.
[03:57] <Owner> Is this a stupid question? Sorr.
[03:57] <Frogzoo> aridese: read the install docs
[03:57] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how i can find out what kernel im running?
[03:57] <Frogzoo> Owner: cds tend to be read only
[03:58] <jvai> ok
[03:58] <rylan> jvai, but i think i will just mute my left speaker for now untill i get it working
[03:58] <HymnToLife> Borat, uname -r
[03:58] <null__> Borat, uname -a
[03:58] <jvai> rylan r those audio files on the desktop still?
[03:58] <Owner> Okay, does that mean I would have to install linux entirely to make it mesh with my wireless card?
[03:58] <rylan> jvai, yes,
[03:59] <Boxxertrumps> you know what pisses me off? leetspeak.
[03:59] <Boxxertrumps> you have 10 fingers, USE THEM DAMMIT!
[04:00] <Frogzoo> Boxxertrumps: dl dUd
[04:00] <rylan> is there anyway to just reboot my sound, or do i have to keep rebooting my computer.
[04:00] <GaiaX11> Hi I am trying to do a credit card payment, but it is secured by verisign and it has not accepted my payment. Does Verisign avoid linux at all?
[04:00] <aridese> Boxxertrumps, j00 r a n00b, 57f|_|
[04:00] <jvai> there should be a way @ rylan, i'm googling for ya now
[04:01] <Frogzoo> Owner: unless you want to reconfigure every boot
[04:01] <linux_kid1> How do i do a ghost on NickServ to log out another identity?
[04:01] <Owner> But is it possible to do it this time?
[04:02] <Frogzoo> Owner: depends - wireless can be fussy
[04:02] <rylan> sound is fuzzy too,
[04:02] <iKitchu> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an iMac G3, I get a black screen when I boot from the CD (edgy)... I can still access the alt+ctrl+F1toF6
[04:02] <rylan> well more like screaching
[04:02] <Owner> Frogzoo: Assuming I have the livedisk, how would I do it?
[04:03] <Frogzoo> !wifi | Owner
[04:03] <ubotu> Owner: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <Owner> ubotu: Thanks.
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <MECU> well, I failed to install ubuntu because it doesn't support my ATI video card (at least, I think that's the reason)
[04:04] <MECU> "recovery" mode was crap
[04:04] <Madpilot> MECU, what model of ATI card?
[04:04] <MECU> 9800pro
[04:05] <Chadarius> MECU: that shouldn't be a problem with ATI card
[04:05] <Chadarius> MECU: Does X fail to load or something?
[04:05] <jvai> rylan, u in here still? look @ what i found - http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/02/sound-problem-fix-for-edgy/
[04:05] <timthelion> is it possible to prevent a window manager(ie metacity) from starting when gnome starts?
[04:05] <Madpilot> MECU, that should work, my 9600XT works nicely
[04:06] <cmor> hi all
[04:06] <MECU> X? the load screen comes up fine, looks good, then black screen
[04:06] <rylan> jvai, thanks
[04:06] <pavs> where is the .htaccess file located?
[04:06] <Chadarius> MECU: are you using default ATI driver or the binary driver
[04:06] <MECU> I'm using whatever one gets installed when you install
[04:07] <linux_kid> Some DVD's play in Totem, some Don't.  How do i make sure I have ALL the plug-ins?
[04:07] <cmor> i just noticed this os on ebay :P so i dug deeper and found the official site, and was wondering about a few things.
[04:08] <rylan> jvai, im trying it.
[04:08] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[04:08] <josh__> hello everyone!
[04:08] <Pelo> cmor,  yeah, don't buy it on ebay, just steal it from the free download site
[04:08] <cmor> can you play world of warcraft on this os?
[04:08] <cmor> downloading it now :P
[04:08] <Chadarius> cmor: Yeah! You can
[04:08] <rylan> cmor, its doubtful
[04:09] <W0nderl00t> Hello everyone! quick question: if im running vmware over ubuntu, where is the folder where i could put files that my VM can see? i tried .vmware but doesnt do the trick...
[04:09] <jvai> rylan i got that link from this 1 - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_MIDI_sound_server_.28Timidity.2B.2B.29
[04:09] <cmor> chad you say yes and rylan says no :(
[04:09] <josh__> Can anyone help me with getting mp3 playback? I have sounds (they play when I log in) but my system will not play CD's or mp3s
[04:09] <Chadarius> cmor: Give me a second I'll post a link on WOW for you. I play WOW GuildWars and City of Heroes in Linux using Cedega
[04:09] <cmor> nice
[04:09] <rylan> cmor, well i have only been using for a few days, seems unlikely
[04:09] <cmor> merci
[04:10] <rylan> thats fnucking awesome
[04:10] <rylan> remind me again why people use windows?
[04:10] <Chadarius> cmor: I don't think you really need to use Cedega anymore though I think WINE will probably do it now
[04:10] <cmor> i would love to tell mircosoft to go pound sound :P
[04:10] <Pelo> !mp3 | josh__
[04:10] <ubotu> josh__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <josh__> !mp3
[04:10] <rylan> cmor, well right now linux is pounding my sound
[04:10] <Chadarius> cmor: the only thing I have it around for us Battlefield 2142
[04:10] <linux_kid> !dvd
[04:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:11] <blazemonger> is the ubuntu alternative install cd have a more stable ubuntu on it?
[04:11] <linux_kid> blazemonger, no
[04:11] <Chadarius> cmor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[04:11] <blazemonger> i was told earlier today it was
[04:11] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, no, it's the very same
[04:11] <Pelo> blazemonger,  it's a CLI installation interface, ie not a live cd
[04:11] <W0nderl00t> ...um can someone tell me which folder i put stuff in so my vmx machine can see it? im using vmware player and not server, if that helps.
[04:11] <blazemonger> everytime ive tried ubuntu it's been extremely slow even on a p4 1.4 ghz with 768 megabytes of memory
[04:11] <blazemonger> then again i dont have a 3d card
[04:11] <cmor> thanks chad ill go do some reading :P
[04:11] <Pelo> W0nderl00t, ,  try in #vmware
[04:12] <blazemonger> i want faster 2d graphics
[04:12] <blazemonger> like debian/slack offered
[04:12] <Chadarius> cmor: You probably don't have to compile WINE yourself... this is an older howto. Just install the latest WINE using Synaptec
[04:12] <W0nderl00t> Pelo: I'll try that
[04:12] <neko_> while date +%h -lt 12; do sleep 3600; done; execute command here ##How can I use while with date lke this? This doesn't work.
[04:12] <vlt> Hello, I just installed the package "linux-source-2.6", now there's a bz2 file in /usr/src. Is this normal? Why wasn't it unzipped by the install process? Or where is it now?
[04:12] <Pelo> blazemonger,  you might want to try xubuntu , it is somewhat lighter
[04:12] <blazemonger> would building a new kernel speed up ubuntu?
[04:13] <linuxfanstar> hi
[04:13] <atomiku> what good torrent cilent can you recommend?
[04:13] <neko_> Oops, wrong channel. Meant at #bash.
[04:13] <Pelo> atomiku,  utorrent running on wine
[04:13] <blazemonger> how do i repair bugs in ubuntu?
[04:13] <linuxfanstar> so composite by default is definetly not going to be in 7.04 now that it is defered?
[04:13] <atomiku> Pelo: was thinkin about that
[04:14] <Chadarius> atomiku: I use azureus most of the time
[04:14] <Pelo> atomiku,  but keep an eye out for deluge-torrent , it looks promissing
[04:14] <atomiku> yeah okay ill do that
[04:14] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, if done correctly, yes
[04:14] <atomiku> thanks guys
[04:14] <cmor> i have installed different version of linux in the past some i got as far as getting them online.. and then messed something up in the boot loader or something to that affect and went back to winblows.. ive always wanted to run linux tho. its about time i learn :P
[04:14] <HymnToLife> and to really speed it up, rebuild -everything- :p
[04:14] <chrisjw_> brb
[04:14] <Chadarius> cmor: Cool man... take the plunge the water is great!
[04:14] <blazemonger> cmeme:i want to use Ubuntu but it's not stable on my computer
[04:14] <cmor> :)
[04:14] <blazemonger> but OTHER distros like Debian work though
[04:15] <blazemonger> why would ubuntu which is based on Debian be *SLOW*?
[04:15] <blazemonger> it'[s slower than XP
[04:15] <Chadarius> blazemonger: That seems funky to me cause Ubuntu is based on Debian...
[04:15] <blazemonger> it IS fishy to me chable
[04:15] <vlt> and are the files in linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 the very same that produced my running kernel 2.6.15-28-k7?
[04:15] <blazemonger> even debian SID is faster than Ubuntu on my system
[04:15] <rylan> jvai, those sites are a bit too technical for me
[04:16] <blazemonger> maybe there's alot of background processes in ubuntu that dont run by default on debian
[04:16] <jvai> ooooo
[04:16] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, Ubuntu is not designed to be fast
[04:16] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Is the graphics that are slow? Drive speed? what?
[04:16] <HymnToLife> if you don't like that, don't use Ubuntu
[04:16] <chrisjw_> grr brb
[04:16] <blazemonger> and alot of times the gnome pannels FREEZE
[04:16] <Pelo> HymnToLife,  out of curiosity, what is designed to be fast ?
[04:16] <blazemonger> and there's alot of applications that just refuse to run
[04:17] <cmor> are there programs available that allow you to talk to your freinds on lets say Cough crappy ol msn Cough while you are on linux? and  the will be my last newb question today. ill just sit back and watch :P
[04:17] <HymnToLife> Pelo, Debian, FreeBSD, Slack, Gentoo...
[04:17] <blazemonger> like for example:billard-gl it works PERFECT in Debian but it freezes ubuntu to where i have to reboot
[04:17] <Chadarius> HymnToLife: I don't find Ubuntu especially slow in comparison to other desktop distros. True if you want a really tight and fast Linux install Gentoo might be the way to go. If you want to really hack the kernel up nicely :)
[04:17] <Pelo> HymnToLife,  tnaks
[04:17] <blazemonger> i'm having nightmares in ubuntu
[04:17] <Pelo> cmor,  gaim
[04:17] <kungfugoat> well, everything works on my laptop
[04:17] <kungfugoat> linux has come a long way
[04:17] <jvai> rylan.. those commands r "copy & paste" variety.. it's easy, i didnt start using a pc till 2004, dont overwelmed @ it..
[04:17] <iKitchu> how do I change the refresh rate in text-only mode?
[04:17] <jvai> lol
[04:17] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:what kind of laptop do you have that way i can go out and buy the same hardwar
[04:17] <cmor> gaim ahh nice ..  i think i am fim with that too.. nice
[04:18] <Chadarius> blazemonger: What kind of hardware you running it on?
[04:18] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I have a fujitsu lifebook n3530
[04:18] <blazemonger> a Pentium 4 1.4ghz with 768 megabytes of SDRAM
[04:18] <blazemonger> and a ATi RAGE 128 video card with 128 megabytes of memory
[04:18] <rylan> the one you sent is just for MIDI, and the other websites dont apply
[04:18] <blazemonger> (at least my friend says it has 128 megabytes of video
[04:18] <blazemonger> maybe i should buy a new computer
[04:18] <Pelo> later
[04:18] <kungfugoat> it's got centrino duo, Intel wi-fi and ati radeon x1400
[04:18] <rylan> jvai, the one you sent is just for MIDI, and the other websites dont apply
[04:18] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Rage? hrm
[04:19] <jvai> oooo sorry @ rylan
[04:19] <blazemonger> and there are no rage drivers supported by ATI
[04:19] <rylan> jvai, no prob. the forum post looks promising
[04:19] <blazemonger> do i need a advanced graphics card to even USE ubuntu?
[04:19] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Yeah that is a super old card too
[04:19] <blazemonger> i know it's old but it works PERFECT in Debian but flaws like crazy in Ubuntu
[04:19] <SportChick> /sb end
[04:19] <blazemonger> which i don't understand WHY it would..
[04:20] <Chadarius> blazemonger: no I use it on some really old stuff. The native ATI stuff usually works pretty well
[04:20] <HymnToLife> different drives, maybe ?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> drivers*
[04:20] <blazemonger> and not only that Ubuntu has alot of things missing like the configuration editor
[04:20] <blazemonger> the system tools menu the debian menu
[04:20] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, why do you use it then ?
[04:20] <blazemonger> i apologize if i seem annoying
[04:20] <blazemonger> I want to use Ubuntu
[04:20] <rylan> jvai, no dice on that one either, thats for 2 sound cards'
[04:21] <blazemonger> hybrid:i've been trying to fix the bugs
[04:21] <rylan> variant, i could really use your help
[04:21] <blazemonger> so it can run faster
[04:21] <atomiku> Is there anything better than wine?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> that sounds a bit masochistic :p
[04:21] <atomiku> im having a few issues with some programs
[04:21] <blazemonger> i want Ubuntu to actually work
[04:21] <kungfugoat> atomiku: vmware
[04:21] <HymnToLife> I also think Debian is beter than Ubuntu, thus I use debian
[04:21] <jvai> ok @ rylan.. the wif iconnect is slow mollasses in tryst... too many ppl in here.. w/ windows laptops.. lol
[04:21] <blazemonger> which programs Atomiku?
[04:21] <atomiku> nah
[04:21] <atomiku> something that actually makes the program run like any other
[04:21] <atomiku> not in some virtual desktop
[04:22] <blazemonger> theres ALOT of things that work even in SID that won't even run in ubuntu
[04:22] <blazemonger> but i like ubuntu's interface alot better
[04:22] <kungfugoat> the free vmware server isn't half bad
[04:22] <kungfugoat> I've got it running on my server
[04:22] <kungfugoat> on debian
[04:22] <rylan> jvai, no prob. gunna restart again, mute my right channel audio that should give me decent sound, from my left.
[04:22] <jvai> rylan try this also... - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:22] <blazemonger> hell even the vice emulator won't even run
[04:22] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[04:23] <rylan> jvai, i always liked a good puzzle
[04:23] <Owner> i understand nobody's a wireless expert, but i cant get ubutntu live disk to connect to my network
[04:23] <blazemonger> i just want to know how Ubunto totally messed up debian
[04:23] <rylan> jvai,  but i like listening to music while doing it.
[04:23] <jvai> lol.. that's what linux is for.. to make us live longer.. it cures alsheimer's
[04:23] <cmor> hey i resemble that remark
[04:23] <blazemonger> well linux does create jobs lol
[04:24] <Owner> does anybody have any ideas as to why i cant get it to connect, or could somebody walk me through it?
[04:24] <blazemonger> i read on ubuntu's site that Ubuntu is STABLE
[04:24] <jvai> linux is fundamental.. like reading is fundamental
[04:24] <blazemonger> even though hardly anygthing works in Ubuntu i still like Ubuntu
[04:24] <cellfish> hey guys, i'd like to know how i can delete an ntfs partition in ubuntu and switch it to a linux-ready filesystem?
[04:24] <jvai> i dont know how t ouse a pc
[04:25] <blazemonger> Ubuntu works as long as you don't run any programs
[04:25] <Chadarius> cellfish: use gparted
[04:25] <rylan> jvai, last one looks like it should work.
[04:25] <kungfugoat> I think linux can be big for thin client setups
[04:25] <cellfish> chadarius: alright, i guess i should run it as an administrator because that's what i tried .. how do i run gparted as an administrator?
[04:25] <jvai> ok @ rylan... google is a wonder.. it should never go away
[04:25] <cellfish> nevermind
[04:25] <kungfugoat> it sucks that my company gives me a core duo machine with 2 gigs of ram and then lock it down so I can only check e-mail
[04:26] <Chadarius> cellfish: sudo gparted :)
[04:26] <cellfish> actually
[04:26] <cellfish> i did sudo gparted but gparted still doesn't give me the option to delete the partition
[04:26] <blazemonger> can anyone explain WHY ubuntu would be SLOW on a fast system?
[04:26] <BigMac> is there a way to turn of my touchpad on my laptop because it is interfering
[04:26] <Pelo> cellfish,  unmount it first
[04:26] <Chadarius> cellfish: You need to make sure that the partition is umounted first
[04:26] <Dante123> hi all......did a fresh install of ubuntu......updated.......ran<EMAIL_ADDRESS>then cant login on reboot.....any ideas?  Is this what they mean when they say autom@tix "broke" my system?
[04:27] <cellfish> aaaa
[04:27] <cellfish> i thought that meant to unmount
[04:27] <cellfish> oh nevermind
[04:27] <Pelo> BigMac,  it's probably something you need to edit in xorg.conf
[04:27] <cellfish> geez i'm mixed
[04:27] <cellfish> but i mean well
[04:27] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Blaze can you do an lspci and tell me what it says about your graphics card?
[04:27] <Chankster> i keep getting this error "bash: ./sb: cannot execute binary file" on one ubuntu system but it works fine on a different system.  Any ideas?
[04:27] <riotkittie> Dante123: duuuuude. what possessed you to install automatix?
[04:28] <blazemonger> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[04:28] <Dante123> put it on another machine....and it added the bells and whistles I was lacking....and typing to you from that machine right now......thought it would work on the kids ubuntu machine....they want java, flash, and the codec stuff too.
[04:28] <BigMac> Another thing, I tried creating a custom laucher with opera so I could use a different icon, but if I click this icon it just loads the old opera o, but any other icon will switch
[04:29] <Dante123> so would you say that<EMAIL_ADDRESS>my install?
[04:29] <blazemonger> i've spent more time in ubuntu trying to get things working than actually USING my system for things i SHOULD be able to do like producing music and mastering audio
[04:29] <FirstStrike> haha..automatix
[04:29] <mutestreamer> does anyone know where the hotplug stuff went to on feisty?  I'm trying to get my bcm203x bluetooth dongle to work and I can't sort out where the firmware goes.
[04:30] <Dante123> FirstStrike....are you saying automatix is to blame?
[04:30] <FirstStrike> i believe we even have a disclaimer for it
[04:30] <FirstStrike> !automatix
[04:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:30] <jvai> wb rylan
[04:30] <rylan> jvai, haha lowtec fix, unplugged right speaker
[04:30] <blazemonger> so why would debian sid be more useable than Ubuntu?
[04:30] <blazemonger> why is Ubuntu even released if hardly any of the packages run
[04:31] <Chankster> i keep getting this error "bash: ./sb: cannot execute binary file" on one ubuntu system but it works fine on a different system.  Any ideas?
[04:31] <Dante123> is there anyway to "fix" the inability to login?
[04:31] <blazemonger> like even simple stuff
[04:31] <jvai> & u got full sound? @ rylan
[04:31] <Dante123> blazemonger what type of pc, ram, etc, are you running?
[04:31] <rylan> jvai, no not really. but atleast i can listen to sound while i figure it out
[04:31] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Have you tried the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to see if that fixes your ATI driver?
[04:31] <jvai> ooo k
[04:31] <dsquare> i downloaded a "linux demo" and i dont have any idea how to run it.. there are some .py files, some .so.3 files.. one with no extension
[04:31] <dsquare> how do u make it go lol
[04:31] <dsquare> i
[04:31] <riotkittie> Dante123: youre, imo, best off doing a total reinstall. who knows what else it's hosed.  but uhm, why cant you log in? invalid pass? no such user?
[04:31] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: There's many, many, many people that run Ubuntu without any hitches including the various packages in the repositories.
[04:32] <blazemonger> yes i have Chadarius
[04:32] <Pelo> Dante123,  the real reason that automatix is not supported here is that Canonical purposefully did not include the restricted propriatary stuff for philosophical reasons,  automatix is a seperate project and is not supported in this channel,  you can try installing the propriatary codecs and stuff using this proceedure
[04:32] <Chadarius> blazemonger: I really want to help you blaze but you are seriously just complaining... How about some productive stuff please?
[04:32] <blazemonger> FirstStrike: well why isn't it working for me?
[04:32] <Pelo> !restricted | Dante123
[04:32] <ubotu> Dante123: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:32] <Dante123> incorrect username and password......but the other users and even root dont work either....
[04:32] <blazemonger> i'm not complaining..i'm just trying to get a few things working and trying to keep ubuntu from freezing
[04:33] <blazemonger> Chadarius:would compiling a new kernel fix things?
[04:33] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Other people have very similar cards working with Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[04:33] <jvai> ok all ty uall for help.... i gotta get home
[04:33] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: There's a lot of things that can go wrong..generally, it's something simple as well.
[04:33] <Dante123> its not me that needs to use freeformats.....its the bastard making the website that I like and want to watch who need to be converted
[04:33] <Chadarius> blazemonger: No ATI driver is built in already.
[04:33] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: and i highly doubt compiling a new kernel will do anything except waste your time
[04:33] <blazemonger> Chadarius:well all i know it's not working at all for me
[04:33] <riotkittie> Dante123: try booting into recovery mode and creating an account from there... then reboot in normal mode and see if that account works
[04:34] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: ATI has terrible linux drivers, and that's not Ubuntu or any other Linux distro's fault.
[04:34] <blazemonger> Chadarius:I have a ATI card that's no longer supported by ATI and i'm not a "modern" gamer i only like old games
[04:34] <Pelo> anyone here just gdesklets ? I have a minor issue : when I come back to my comp in the morning python uses all the available %cpu and my desklets are all white fiels on my desktop , is it just me ?
[04:34] <blazemonger> well things ran fine when i had Debian sid running
[04:34] <Pelo> anyone USE gdesklet
[04:34] <blazemonger> i thoughtt hat because ubuntu was based on debian that it would be just blazing fast like debian is
[04:34] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Doesn't matter if its not supported by ATI, it should be working fine in Linux with the open source driver
[04:35] <FirstStrike> It's "blazing fast" on my PC. Much quicker than XP.
[04:35] <Dante123> okay...will try that......this is actually the problem that happened before which is why I did a fresh install of ubuntu......unless I am getting low on HD space and that has something to do with it....which is a possibility......has anyone heard of lack of hd space causing difficulties logging in???
[04:35] <blazemonger> Chadarius: *SHOULD* that is
[04:35] <blazemonger> but the thing is..it's not
[04:35] <trollboy> blazemonger: debian was faster for me honestly
[04:35] <trollboy> I had to upgrade my ram to get ubuntu to run on this box
[04:35] <trollboy> mind you, there was only 128mb
[04:35] <trollboy> and now there's a gig
[04:35] <trollboy> but still
[04:35] <blazemonger> trollboy:why is ubuntu much slower? shouldn't 768 megabytes be enough memory?
[04:36] <riotkittie> Dante123: i dont see why it would - ive nearly depleted my diskspace and have no problem at all. as a matter of fact, the other day, i was down to < 30mb
[04:36] <blazemonger> you mean you have a gigabyte of memory and ubuntu STILL runs slow?
[04:36] <kungfugoat> that's crazy
[04:36] <trollboy> blazemonger: I only HAD 128mb
[04:36] <Dante123> anyone here run puppy linux before?
[04:36] <trollboy> Now I have a gig
[04:36] <blazemonger> man..the ubuntu developers are messed up
[04:36] <kungfugoat> I have a gigabyte of memory and ubuntu flies
[04:36] <riotkittie> hm. im running on 256MB RAM and have no issues
[04:36] <trollboy> and obviously, since I'm talking to you, it runs just fine
[04:36] <blazemonger> i'm prob just gonna go back to Debian or Gentoo or something
[04:36] <Pelo> blazemonger,  768 is enough, you might want to review what you are running , service and program wise
[04:36] <Trixsey> Is there any way to forcefully try to access a computer on the network from Ubuntu? In windows I can always do "\\Computer" in the address-bar, any equal alternative here?
[04:37] <blazemonger> the default stuff that's in ubuntu
[04:37] <FirstStrike> If you don't have the graphics drivers working properly, then it will run slow
[04:37] <blazemonger> likie right now my gnome pannels are frozen
[04:37] <Dante123> I find it runs damn fast especially on new hardware.....
[04:37] <riotkittie> dont blame the developers for the fact that there's a problem with your pc. :P
[04:37] <FirstStrike> It's never the users fault
[04:37] <Pelo> blazemonger,  is this your first install ? might want to try it again
[04:37] <blazemonger> well it's not my hardware because it works PERFECT in Debian
[04:37] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Dude seriously if you want help cool it
[04:37] <FirstStrike> It's always the developers
[04:37] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: Ubuntu isn't Debian
[04:37] <blazemonger> this is the 10th time ive installed it
[04:38] <blazemonger> Chadarius: ok.
[04:38] <blazemonger> i know but it's based on Debian supposedly
[04:38] <riotkittie> the tenth?  and its been so awful the previous NINE times that youve continued to come back?
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Rofl
[04:38] <riotkittie> call me crazy, but ... :)
[04:38] <FirstStrike> Based on Debian yes..but it's come so far since then that it's not really remotely similar to Debian anymore
[04:38] <blazemonger> i keep thinking that a reinstallation will fix it
[04:38] <kungfugoat> I use windows all day at work
[04:38] <kungfugoat> I don't want to use it at home
[04:38] <Trixsey> Is there any way to forcefully try to access a computer on the network from Ubuntu? In windows I can always do "\\Computer" in the address-bar, any equal alternative here?
[04:39] <blazemonger> It's buggier than Debian
[04:39] <Frogzoo> FirstStrike: debian has also moved with the times
[04:39] <kasper> direct rendering: No <<<<<<<<<<<<< how to solve these???
[04:39] <riotkittie> blazemonger: which release are you running  ?  edgy?
[04:39] <FirstStrike> Albeit slower..they've pushed back their next release again
[04:39] <blazemonger> debian sid is much more stable
[04:39] <Pelo> Trixsey,  I think you need to install samba to access windows machines on a network
[04:39] <blazemonger> yes..edgy..because in dapper it didn't work well either
[04:39] <shirish> hi all :)
[04:39] <blazemonger> and i reccomended Ubuntu to friend of mine that's a newbie to linux i told him it was more stable and faster than XP
[04:39] <nikin> hy. i am installing xubuntu 6.10 on a Pentium2 with a RivaTNT2 card... i tryed to install the legacy drivers, and all went fine.. the Nvidia logo shows up, but if i try to run glxinfo i get a lot of this: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:40] <shirish> thnx Pelo :P
[04:40] <kasper> direct rendering: No <<<<<<<<<<<<< how to solve these???
[04:40] <blazemonger> i get that too niikin
[04:40] <cellfish> hey guys i need some help
[04:40] <Pelo> blazemonger,  that is my experience,  it might just be your machine that is not ubuntu friendly
[04:40] <Chadarius> nikin: I'm not sure that Riva cards support that
[04:40] <cellfish> i just converted an ntfs partition to ext3, i would want it to show up in my places at bootup and be available to all users
[04:40] <cellfish> what do i do
[04:40] <blazemonger> pelo:i thought linux was linux
[04:40] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no clue what to tell you. i've got a p III 750mhz with 256mb ram and i have no problems with ubuntu's performance at all.
[04:40] <Kiongku> kasper, put the graphics card proprietary drivers
[04:40] <Pelo> kasper, try searching for your error message in the forum
[04:40] <shirish> ok guys I'm having probs. as to how to setup a network printer
[04:41] <blazemonger> you have NO problem with ubuntu performance!?
[04:41] <kasper> i am using ati
[04:41] <nikin> Chadarius: AFAIK TNT2 supports GL ...
[04:41] <oggy__> does anyone know if rain in beryl can be put into html?
[04:41] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no. :>
[04:41] <blazemonger> maybe ubuntu hates americans :(
[04:41] <FirstStrike> i'm an american
[04:41] <blazemonger> or hates Germans
[04:41] <FirstStrike> i run it just dandy on 2 desktops and 1 laptop
[04:41] <Pelo> blazemonger,  I have no problems and it does work faster then my xp on the same computer,  but I don'T realy ask much of it , I am just a basic home user
[04:41] <Kiongku> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <blazemonger> how do did you get it runnning fast pelo?
[04:42] <Dante123> nikin.....ever tried puppy linux.....good distro for older hardware like that
[04:42] <blazemonger> was it running fast out of the box?
[04:42] <Chadarius> nikin: ah sorry I was read aglx and you just said glx
[04:42] <riotkittie> blazemonger: yea.
[04:42] <Pelo> blazemonger,  just a basic install,  I didn't mess with anything hardware side
[04:42] <blazemonger> riot:and you promise you didn't make any modifications?
[04:42] <Chadarius> nikin: you check that the nvidia driver loaded properly?
[04:43] <nikin> Dante: yep i tried that... but i have no problems with kubuntu just this ASUS TNT2 .... nothing else... i have 256MB RAM in this PC it runs fine
[04:43] <FirstStrike> Ubuntu has always run nice and speedy for me out of the box as well. I installed ubuntu, installed my graphics drivers and that's it.
[04:43] <FirstStrike> Easy as pie
[04:43] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no, i didnt tweak anything.
[04:43] <nikin> Chadarius: how to do that?
[04:43] <shirish> Ist's this post which I've posted on ubuntuforums also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361845 can somebody help?
[04:43] <blazemonger> FirstStrike:i have a ancient graphics card though that's not supported by anything
[04:43] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues
[04:43] <Pelo> blazemonger,  what does the system monitor tell you ?
[04:43] <FirstStrike> I've installed it on a P4 with a Geforce 5600, AMD with a Geforce 6800 and Intel core duo with an ATI Mobility graphics card
[04:43] <FirstStrike> And no hitches
[04:43] <blazemonger> system monitor?
[04:44] <FirstStrike> Dell Ultrasharp
[04:44] <Chadarius> nikin: open terminal and type lsmod |grep
[04:44] <riotkittie> in gnome ... probably on system > admin menu
[04:44] <blazemonger> i dont see the system monitor in any of the menus
[04:44] <Pelo> blazemonger,  menu > system > admin > system monitor
[04:44] <shirish> guys can somebody help me, plz. :(
[04:44] <FirstStrike> Buy a newer graphics card..you can get a Geforce 5xxx series for like $40 these days
[04:44] <Pelo> blazemonger,  what every it is in english that tells you the memory cup usage
[04:45] <nikin> Chadarius: yep it is loaded...
[04:45] <Pelo> shirish,  we won'T help you if you don't tell us what is wrong
[04:45] <blazemonger> when i boot into ubuntu it freezes because i selected the molecule screensaver
[04:45] <blazemonger> another problem i didnt have
[04:45] <shirish> I want to install a network printer LaserJet 2600n on ubuntu & don't know how to set it up
[04:45] <nikin> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:45] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out.
[04:45] <nikin> sry
[04:46] <Chadarius> blazemonger: screensaver keeps it from booting properly? your screensaver loads immediately?
[04:46] <blazemonger> yah
[04:46] <eckmaster> i have a question concerning the linux-headers
[04:46] <Pelo> shirish,  you might find something for that here http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[04:46] <blazemonger> i was going through screensavers and it froze my system
[04:46] <blazemonger> i dont know what's going wrong with this
[04:46] <blazemonger> maybe i should try fiesty
[04:47] <Lucifel> Which options do I need to add to my fstab entry to make a disk mountable and writable by other users?
[04:47] <Music_Shuffle> Night Pelo
[04:47] <blazemonger> and my mouse cursor turns bladck too
[04:47] <Chadarius> blazemonger: OK well that is because there is something wrong with your video driver... until that is fixed I think you should expect those problems eh?
[04:47] <blazemonger> i have the video driver that came with Ubuntu
[04:47] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out untill i reboot. PLEASE HELP.
[04:47] <blazemonger> and the video drivers are the same on ubuntu as it is on debian sid
[04:48] <riotkittie> k, while i'm here, i need input - my laptop has an 11.2GB internal drive (i am multibooting Win2k, Dapper, and Zenwalk, and have the obligatory /swap, along with a FAT32 dumping ground... and space is tight). I had a 400GB external delivered today, but my laptop is ancient and does not support booting from USB.
[04:48] <shirish> looking up the thread now Pelo :)
[04:48] <blazemonger> another thing is i can't acces the function in my bios where i can disable acpi
[04:49] <riotkittie> Can I put a /boot partition on the internal, and have a point it at an install on the external?
[04:49] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Your xorg.conf file might have something messed up with it pehaps? Did you change anything? You have any 3d stuff installed like Beryl or anything?
[04:49] <cellfish> nevermind i figured out fstab
[04:49] <cellfish> lol
[04:49] <cellfish> i love this
[04:49] <eckmaster> when I use kubuntu x86 should I use the linux-headers for the i386 architecture instead of the generic
[04:49] <blazemonger> nope i don't have beryl installed
[04:49] <Chadarius> blazemonger: have you thought of comaring xorg.conf files with Debian install?
[04:49] <blazemonger> i just want the packages to work..even simple things like gnome-art freeze
[04:49] <blazemonger> i dont know what it could be
[04:50] <blazemonger> they're both the same
[04:50] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out untill i reboot. PLEASE HELP.
[04:50] <Chadarius> blazemonger: All your freezes are probably all related to your driver issue
[04:50] <blazemonger> rylan:try Debian
[04:50] <blazemonger> Chadarius:well there's no other video driver for my card
[04:50] <eckmaster> can someboy HELP ME???
[04:50] <rylan> blazemonger, i would rather fix the problem than start all over
[04:51] <blazemonger> and when i installed kubuntu-desktop it gave me defoma font warnings like fonts that were missing
[04:51] <blazemonger> it's like ubuntu has gone downhill
[04:51] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Have a nice day blaze. I'm done helping you for today. Come back when you are willing to try to be civil and not degrade the chat :)
[04:51] <Madpilot> eckmaster, which kernel you use will depend on which CPU you have - AMD or Intel? Generic works OK with everything, though
[04:51] <rylan> Chadarius, could you help me figure out my sound issues?
[04:51] <riotkittie> errr. any chance you installed from a disc that was, at best, FUBAR?  did you check it? test the md5?
[04:52] <blazemonger> i'm not trying to degrade things..i'm just frustrated that ive spent more time dealing with broken stuff than using my system..ive thought about going back to windows
[04:52] <blazemonger> where things actually work
[04:52] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Take your own advice and use Debian
[04:52] <blazemonger> or trying out suse
[04:52] <m0xie_> Then go back to Windows, and check back every so often.  The most important rule is to use what works for you!
[04:52] <blazemonger> Chadarius:debian?
[04:52] <eckmaster> @ Madpilot I have an core2duo>intel
[04:52] <Music_Shuffle> 'Going back to Windows' does not constitute a valid threat in here. Sorry.
[04:52] <rylan> blaze, enjoy the challenge of fixing things.
[04:53] <Chadarius> rylan: What is your sound problem?
[04:53] <Kilroy> blaze, maybe u should just stick to your ti 83+
[04:53] <Chadarius> rylan: I'm not much of a Linux sound guy but I'll try my best
[04:53] <blazemonger> im the linux sound guy
[04:53] <blazemonger> dynebolic is good for mus. production
[04:53] <Madpilot> eckmaster, generic will work fine, or the Intel-tweaked kernel (686, I guess? I run AMD, I'm not up to speed on the Intel/Linux stuff)
[04:54] <riotkittie> someone answer my stupid question :P
[04:54] <rylan> Chadarius, well, i get a screeching high pitched noise coming from my right audio channel, messing with the "line in" component for some reason causes all sound to stop untill i reboot.
[04:54] <riotkittie> me mentally '!patience's herself
[04:54] <blazemonger> rylan:well i' not the only one where ubuntu has been terribly slow
[04:54] <blazemonger> i read where one person had ubuntu on even a top of the line setup
[04:54] <rylan> Chadarius, i think it has something do to drivers.
[04:54] <blazemonger> and it was extremely slow
[04:54] <eckmaster> thanx
[04:54] <Kilroy> blaze it has to do with drivers
[04:55] <blazemonger> well if you can find some drivers for my rage 128 card i'll install them
[04:55] <rylan> blazemonger, then find something that does work for you. i suppose thats whats important
[04:55] <blazemonger> because I have searched
[04:55] <shirish> guys tht was a big thread but it doesn't answer my query
[04:55] <Chadarius> rylan: doesn't sound like feedback to you?
[04:55] <Kilroy> blaze: google ati drivers for ubuntu
[04:55] <shirish> my query is this
[04:55] <blazemonger> Kilroy:wouldn't the drivers in debian and ubuntu be the same drivers?
[04:55] <blazemonger> what about building a new kernel
[04:55] <rylan> Chadarius, no, it littlerally is a high pitched noise, constant.
[04:56] <blazemonger> killermach:i have said: I have a *ancient* ATI *RAGE* 128 not a RADEON which is supported by ATI
[04:56] <Chadarius> rylan: OK have you searched the forums or wiki yet?
[04:56] <shirish> I have set up ubuntu 6.06 at a friend's place, he has a laserjet 2600n on the network with an address <IP_ADDRESS> & wants to use it to print through Ubuntu, my question is how do I go about doing it?
[04:56] <rylan> Chadarius, i tried, but to no avail. linux terminology is a bit above me,
[04:56] <blazemonger> i've searched google and i tried the fglrx drivers and it messed everything up because it didnt work with my specific ATI card
[04:56] <blazemonger> if i had a Radeon th ings would probably work
[04:56] <shirish> he is able to print through all the windows machines effortlessely
[04:56] <rylan> Chadarius, this is the 4th day of my using linux.
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, i found this page, that looks like it could help. but i dont understand it. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel
[04:57] <shirish> can anyone help me?
[04:57] <riotkittie> shirish: does the printer have linux support ?
[04:57] <shirish> supposedly yes
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, also this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:57] <blazemonger> my card is supported by linux itself
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, i was trying to find new soundcard drivers
[04:58] <Chadarius> rylan: Cool let me read it real quick
[04:58] <shirish> this is the 1st time i'll be trying out network printing on ubuntu
[04:58] <riotkittie> shirish: is he using GNOME? has he tried letting GNOME's printer thingamajiggee detect network printerS?
[04:58] <witless> is it possible to rip just the audio from an AVI file?
[04:58] <blazemonger> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3940
[04:58] <rylan> Chadarius, thanks. i also read that the AC97 codec could fix my problem but i couldnt figure out how to install it.
[04:58] <bruenig> witless, using avidemux you can
[04:58] <riotkittie> brb
[04:58] <Kilroy> when u say just audio u mean plit it from video?
[04:58] <ReKlipz> anyone know where i can get help with beryl?
[04:58] <witless> bruenig: thanks
[04:58] <ReKlipz> !beryl
[04:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:59] <blazemonger> there are not any third party drivers for my video card or alternatve drivers
[04:59] <blazemonger> ubotu:i can't use Beryl..no one willl support a rage 128 card
[04:59] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: have you seen this page already? : http://casa.che-che.com/blog/2005/11/16/helping-linux-printer-driver-for-hp-2600n/
[04:59] <Kilroy> then use compiz...
[04:59] <rylan> blazemonger, why not just get a new one? they are pretty cheap.
[04:59] <shirish> riotkittie : he is using GNOME? Do u mean System > Administration > Printing or something else
[05:00] <bruenig> witless, http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Save_only_audio
[05:00] <Kilroy> anyone know anything about gfire?
[05:00] <blazemonger> rylan:my pc was built for free
[05:00] <noodles12> is explore2fs a better way to view ext3 from windows than that other one? (i forogt the name... >.<)
[05:00] <blazemonger> cuz i couldn't afford a upgrade when i had my pentium 2
[05:00] <bruenig> fs-driver
[05:00] <Kilroy> blaze....get a job
[05:01] <Chadarius> rylan: what happens when you run aplay -i? Does it list your sound card there?
[05:01] <blazemonger> Kilroy:i would but i live in the middle of nowhere
[05:01] <rylan> Chadarius, it does.
[05:01] <Chadarius> rylan: What does it say it is?
[05:01] <shirish> MikesHardLinux I didn't see tht one but foo2hp  is there in the database, I think I'm messing things up hence need a correct way of doing things
[05:01] <noodles12> bruenig: is that what you use?
[05:01] <blazemonger> i have a radeon card but i dont know how to install it
[05:01] <Lucifel> What fstab option do I need to add to an ext3 volume line to make it writable by non-root users?
[05:01] <blazemonger> i suck with hardware
[05:01] <Eroick> how could ubuntu be setup so that the login screen takes the username and pasword and logs into a server. thin client style. ?
[05:01] <bruenig> noodles12, that is the one I see recommended all the time and I have never heard anyone complain that it didn't work, never heard of that other one
[05:02] <cellfish> dammit i added the following: '/dev/sdb1       /media/goliath  ext3    defaults	0	0' to my fstab and restarted but for whatever reason, i still can't write to an ext3 partition as a user
[05:02] <blazemonger> and the pc shop here wants to charge $100 for installing a video card
[05:02] <rylan> Chadarius, it says it is an intel
[05:02] <Eroick> blazemonger: total ripoff
[05:02] <blazemonger> i kno
[05:02] <bruenig> ultimately since the filesystem is open and the thing you add has specifications on how to add it from windows, I am sure that they would both work as that combination would seemingly make it easy to implement this
[05:02] <Eroick> blazemonger: all that has to be done hardware side is open the case, take out old card, pop in new card
[05:02] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I didn't see tht one but foo2hp is there in the database, I think I'm messing things up hence need a correct way of doing things
[05:02] <blazemonger> i'm 6'" have gigantic hands and my body releases static energy
[05:02] <blazemonger> even if i ground myself
[05:03] <Eroick> blazemonger: ask a friend? :P
[05:03] <Chadarius> rylan: Have you tried running alsamixer to adjust settings or anything?
[05:03] <Lucifel> cellfish that's about where I'm at too, let me know if you come up with the solution
[05:03] <blazemonger> ero:he lives 2 hours away
[05:03] <noodles12> bruenig: that's the other one! i've only talked to one person and he said he had problems with it. =/ but if you've never heard of the one i posted. not sure if it's safe
[05:03] <blazemonger> the person that built my computer for me
[05:03] <Chadarius> rylan: The Intel cards are usually pretty well supported so I don't think its a driver problem
[05:03] <blazemonger> one time i tried building my own system and i fried the motherboard
[05:03] <blazemonger> just by putting in a video card
[05:03] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. by database, do you mean in Synaptic? You do have it installed?
[05:03] <Eroick> blazemonger: the static thing is odd. i have done lots of hardware stuff never grounding my self and I have never had any problems.
[05:03] <rylan> Chadarius, i did, when i touch the line in, mic, or cd audio, the sound cuts out till i reboot.
[05:04] <shirish> Lemme explain
[05:04] <blazemonger> ero:well me and hardware is a wierd situation..i can make a computer fry just with my brain
[05:04] <Chadarius> rylan: Call me crazy but I think its just feedback
[05:04] <rylan> cant be. that speaker worked fine in Win xp
[05:04] <kungfugoat> what the??
[05:04] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I tried first by going through System > Administration > Printing
[05:04] <bruenig> !hi | kungfugoat
[05:04] <ubotu> kungfugoat: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:04] <rylan> Chadarius, and besides, there is nothing nearby that could give it feedback,
[05:04] <blazemonger> i've messed up a pc by connecting a USB cable
[05:05] <blazemonger> i know how to code in assembly blindfolded
[05:05] <Chadarius> rylan: This on a laptop?
[05:05] <kungfugoat> I had fglrx installed prefectly last night and now it's fglrxinfo is showing the Mesa GLX message
[05:05] <rylan> Chadarius, unless linux has some funky voodoo
[05:05] <rylan> Chadarius, nope a desktop
[05:05] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: Add New Printer > Network Printer > HP JetDirect
[05:05] <blazemonger> i know HOW to install hardware but when my body touches a card it fries
[05:05] <blazemonger> where's linux for space aliens
[05:05] <Chadarius> rylan: You have a microphone attached to it anywhere?
[05:05] <Rohinton> Eroick: You've been luck with static... :-)
[05:05] <Kilroy> slave out your little brother
[05:06] <blazemonger> kilroy:do you know how to instal a video card?
[05:06] <blazemonger> without frying a motherboard?
[05:06] <Kilroy> yes@!
[05:06] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: then here it asks me Host name & gives a default 1900 or 9100 port no., i'm stumped what to give here?
[05:06] <blazemonger> i have a dead motherboard when i tried to install a video card
[05:06] <Madpilot> blazemonger, how about Linux for Things That Eat Human Souls? http://www.warbard.ca/temp/CthulhubuntuLogo.png
[05:06] <rylan> Chadarius, there is one beneath my monitor but its not plugged in. and besides, havent moved anything since win-xp so feedback cant really be it.
[05:06] <killermach> blazemonger: I have a Sony PCG-V505DC2P, and lshw says "ATI Technologies, Radeon Mobility M6 LY 128MB" and I haven't succeeded in getting openGL to work
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: the default port 9100 should work. for the host, do you know the correct IP address of the printer?
[05:07] <rylan> Chadarius, thing is, im using an ASUS motherboard with onboard sound, so i highly doubt that it is infact an intel soundcard strapped to it.
[05:07] <blazemonger> my rage 128 is supposed to have 128 megabytes of memory.it's a all in wonder card
[05:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: yup its <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:07] <bayziders> Idk if this is the correct place to ask this but I am not geting much help in other rooms. I need to foward a few ports for xbox live and my torrent client. However my ip is dynamic and it changes every time i load a page or do any thing so when I foward the ports(the nat is built into my modem) it doesn't really do any thing. Can some one help me out? Oh and when I setup a static ip using directions from the port fowarding site i
[05:07] <blazemonger> and i cant find any tv out software that works
[05:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: tht is the info. I need to enter into Host?
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> yes
[05:07] <FirstStrike> bayziders: This is the Ubuntu support channel, not the xbox live support channel.
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yes :-)
[05:07] <rylan> Chadarius, cheap chinese hardware, chances are its "similar" to an intel. and ubuntu is mistaking it as intel
[05:08] <bayziders> I just mentioned live.
[05:08] <Chadarius> rylan: You would be surprised :)
[05:08] <bayziders> It has to do with port fowarding
[05:08] <rylan> Chadarius, as would you, china is a pretty messed up place, i live in shanghai. they dont make anything well here.
[05:08] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, I did try tht before also then it gives me a drop-down box of the Manufacturers lists & HP is listed there
[05:08] <crimsun> rylan: HDA Intel is the moniker for the specification. It has no bearing on the actual codec manufacturer. See ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' for that.
[05:09] <FirstStrike> bayziders: Again, we support Ubuntu here..not your network setup, your xbox live or whether or not the sky is blue.
[05:09] <rylan> slow down, what exactly do i type into the terminal
[05:09] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: one thing I don't remember is if you enter <IP_ADDRESS> or if it's \\<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:09] <crimsun> rylan: the command between the `` and ''
[05:10] <rylan> chadarius, got it
[05:10] <Eroick> Rohinton: well, i touch some metal if i remember to or w/e
[05:10] <bayziders> im running ubuntu. ;O
[05:10] <nowimproved> im getting these weird problems with mplayer X11 error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied
[05:10] <crimsun> most Asus boards w/ HDA are powered by Realtek codecs
[05:10] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: checking HP I do get LaserJet 2600n  & it is foo2hp as the driver. Mikes will also try out the \\<IP_ADDRESS> also
[05:10] <nowimproved> i have tried everything and been looking for a solution for this problem for month
[05:10] <nowimproved> it is fixed after i restart x
[05:10] <nowimproved>  and i have the latest nvidia drivers
[05:10] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, How do I configure this so this uses my firefox browser i get this error:  Could not run "shortcuts program" Failed to execute child process "index" (No such file or directory)
[05:10] <Eroick> is it possable to have the gdm login screen take the username and password but use it to login to a server?
[05:11] <Eroick> like Novell for Windows (shudder)
[05:11] <kungfugoat> anybody else having problem with fglrx and DRI?
[05:11] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: then it asks for Description & Location , again what do I enter here?
[05:11] <kungfugoat> I followed the binary howto to the letter and I still can't get it to stick
[05:11] <rylan> Chadarius, Mixers:                    0: analog devices AD1986A
[05:11] <grao> does anyone know if perl is in the apt repository?
[05:11] <rylan> Chadarius, by the way, im running edgy
[05:12] <crimsun> rylan: are you using hg alsa-driver? If not, you need to be.
[05:12] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: u there?
[05:12] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: ya, sorry. am researching this at the same time :-)
[05:12] <rylan> crimsun, how do i check?
[05:13] <crimsun> rylan: cat /proc/asound/version
[05:13] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok sorry
[05:13] <crimsun> i.e., if you don't know, you're not.
[05:13] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i don't remember this for sure either, but it seems like those last 2 aren't important - just a description for you to see IIRC
[05:13] <killermach> blazemonger: I'm sure mine must bleed from the system RAM, being a laptop and all
[05:13] <blazemonger> does anyone have accxess to better rage 128 drivers than the ones that came with ubuntu
[05:13] <rylan> crimsun, ALSA driver 1.0.12rcl
[05:13] <grao> can you get perl fom the apt repository?
[05:13] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool so its basically like a statement or comment
[05:14] <crimsun> rylan: right, you're not.
[05:14] <Madpilot> grao, yes
[05:14] <rylan> crimsun, so how do i get the HG one
[05:14] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. yup. pretty sure, well 50/50 hehe
[05:14] <crimsun> rylan: follow the instructions on the wiki for compiling from hg
[05:14] <grao> Madpilot: Do you know the exact command?
[05:14] <wheels3572> can anyone show me how to point a file to use firefox in my launcher?
[05:14] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: apart from trying //<IP_ADDRESS> everything else is same, but I dont get the printer to spit out a test page
[05:14] <blazemonger> should i try to build a new kernel?
[05:14] <rylan> crimsun, this is my 4th day using anything close to linux, dumb that down a bit for me
[05:14] <Madpilot> grao, it might be installed by default, but either way, search Synaptic for it
[05:15] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: Is there anything more to be done or tht's it?
[05:15] <blazemonger> since obviously it seems like a kernel problem
[05:15] <blazemonger> if all of these packages won't run
[05:15] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: on that link I posted, near the bottom, someone posted a couple of commands to see if you can send something to the printer. you may want to try that first
[05:15] <crimsun> rylan: there's a how-to on the wiki for compiling alsa-driver; search for it, and you're bound to find it.
[05:15] <grao> ITs a server, would it be automatically installed?
[05:15] <grao> Because i cant find it on my server
[05:15] <grao> would it be in /etc/init.d/?
[05:15] <crimsun> rylan: it may link to a version in the forum
[05:15] <rylan> crimsun, ill try
[05:15] <blazemonger> flightgear wont even work in ubuntu
[05:15] <Chadarius> rylan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28hda%29
[05:15] <blazemonger> it's like windows is faster than linux
[05:16] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: look for a post by "Juan Jose Pablos" : http://casa.che-che.com/blog/2005/11/16/helping-linux-printer-driver-for-hp-2600n/
[05:16] <Chadarius> rylan: hmmm that one might be a little old though
[05:16] <riotkittie> wee. i found the info i needed. now i'm frightened.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you using the fglrx drivers or the ati drivers?
[05:16] <blazemonger> the ati drivers
[05:17] <blazemonger> i tried the fglrx drivers thinking it would work with my rage chipset
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Thats a somewhat old card then eh?
[05:17] <blazemonger> god i miss my amiga
[05:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, enter | blazemonger
[05:17] <ubotu> blazemonger: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:17] <blazemonger> yes dr0ne
[05:17] <shirish> MikesHardLinux : you mean these 2 commands  foo2hp2600-wrapper testpage.ps > testpage.zjs
[05:17] <shirish> netcat xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 9100 ?
[05:17] <blazemonger> dr.willis...i have a ancient card
[05:17] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yes
[05:17] <blazemonger> and i want to show off Ubuntu to a friend
[05:17] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  icky. so the fglrx drivers dont work eh.
[05:17] <rylan> Chadarius, that sounds to be exacty my problem, thanks
[05:18] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok tht one is also written down & what should I expect in the command line?
[05:18] <blazemonger> and he4's saying ubuntu sucks because it won't run anything
[05:18] <blazemonger> and he's now saying theres no working software
[05:18] <grao> Madpilot: What is the command for getting perl from apt because its not on my server
[05:18] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  reach back.. and smack him hard.
[05:18] <grao> Im pretty damn sure
[05:18] <Dr_willis> then tell him to grow up.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <riotkittie> err. should i suck it up and just buy an internal? :/
[05:18] <ctford> has anyone had issues with firefox not loading file types into plugins that it's supposed to?
[05:18] <Madpilot> grao, let me check - just a sec
[05:18] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:should i build my own kernel?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> if ati does not want to support their hardware fully under linux - theres not a lot that can be done with it.
[05:18] <blazemonger> do you think that would make things work a bit better/more stable?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  whats that supposed to accompilsh? not much i am guessing
[05:19] <newest007> hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?
[05:19] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:well less resource use
[05:19] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I doubt you'll get any response at the command line, unless there's an error. also, you'll need something to use as the testpage
[05:19] <blazemonger> more tweaks
[05:19] <blazemonger> maybe that SHOULD fix things
[05:19] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you got the windows mentality going. :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  looking for magic answers.
[05:19] <kungfugoat> Dr_willis: I've long ago stopped blaming the developers
[05:19] <grao> What is the command for apt-get , i need perl
[05:19] <Dr_willis> "hate the game not the players" :)
[05:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: so maybe I make a 2 line some .txt file tht should do it :)
[05:20] <blazemonger> and maybe the default kernel options in ubuntu has things disabled or alot added to it that debian doesnt
[05:20] <kungfugoat> I just wish I could boycott both ATI and everybody else
[05:20] <jay> how can i make kiba-dock items always stay in place when the return intstead of hanging outside... if u kno what I mean. They don't make one line, other icons just hang off
[05:20] <Madpilot> grao, "sudo aptitude install perl" should work
[05:20] <kungfugoat> but the thing is in my laptop
[05:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: but then how would the command be modified?
[05:20] <blazemonger> like everything that works in debian won't work in ubuntu
[05:20] <Chadarius> Dr_willis: deja vu with blaze... He's been doing the same talk for over an hour man
[05:20] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you are bascially 'guessing' at this arent you...
[05:20] <blazemonger> i am extremely confused on why
[05:20] <grao> Kudos madpilot, i got root inabled though so no need for sudo
[05:20] <rylan> Chadarius, "couldn't find package build"
[05:20] <blazemonger> Dr_willis yah..since thyere's no official answers and i've filed bug reports on all the packages that wont run
[05:20] <Chadarius> Dr_willis: I /ignored him a while ago
[05:20] <blazemonger> i've filed opver 50 bug reports like the gnome pannel freezing
[05:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I am doing a "man foo2hp2600-wrapper" and it looks like you might need to have a .ps file. still checking
[05:21] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i would like to see proof of that statement also..   but since ive gotten rid of my ati cards.. good luck.
[05:21] <newest007> hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?
[05:21] <kungfugoat> anybody want to buy a laptop?
[05:21] <kungfugoat> before I throw it out the window?
[05:21] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:is ubuntu supposed to be crashing?
[05:21] <Vilhelms> I've heard people talk about a script called Xgame for running OpenGL Apps while in Xgl mode but can't seem to find it. Where could I look for a Howto or something similar on using Xgame?
[05:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: that command will just make sure your computer can actually see and access the printer, in case there's a hardware/cable/network problem
[05:21] <grao> I can give you the name of someone who might want to buy it
[05:22] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  prove it, trouble shoot it.. make it repeatable.. then file a bug report.. it never crashes on me.. so it may be PEBKAC
[05:22] <Chadarius> rylan: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:22] <blazemonger> i've tried to troubleshoot it
[05:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok lemme know, thnx for helping me out :)
[05:22] <blazemonger> PEBKAC?
[05:22] <CorpseFeeder> I was in the middle of downloading stuff, and my ethernet connection just went dead. And now I can only make it work if I assign it a static IP - DHCP is no longer assigning an IP address to my eth0.... What's up with that? Is this normal?
[05:22] <blazemonger> i've never got replies on the bug reports i've filed
[05:23] <blazemonger> not even a simple 'ubuntu hates you'
[05:23] <Madpilot> blazemonger, are they good, technical bug reports, or "OMG Ubuntu is borken!!!!!11111oneoneone"?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Madpilot,  i wasent going to go there.. :)
[05:23] <crimsun> we don't look at bug reports that don't have pony attachments.
[05:23] <rylan> Chadarius, im on edgy, though regretting it.
[05:23] <xenos76> Can someone help me set up the latest version of flash player for the latest version of Ubuntu?
[05:23] <blazemonger> even blag works on my system
[05:24] <blazemonger> ubuntu is the only one that's not working
[05:24] <blazemonger> properly
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu must hate you then.
[05:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, flash9 | xenos76
[05:24] <ubotu> xenos76: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:24] <blazemonger> i dont see why ubuntu would hate me since i like ubuntu
[05:24] <xenos76> !backports
[05:24] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:24] <blazemonger> iv never said bad things about it ive always said great things about it
[05:25] <dsquare> how do i upgrade to edgy eft please?
[05:26] <bruenig> !upgrade | dsquare
[05:26] <ubotu> dsquare: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:26] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: so what should I give as a testpage because unless I don't have a test-page I don't know whether it's working or not?
[05:26] <dsquare> thx bruenig!!
[05:26] <blazemonger> like flightgear works in debian but it wont in ubuntu
[05:26] <bruenig> !thanks | dsquare
[05:26] <ubotu> dsquare: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:26] <rylan> Chadarius, that website looks like it's working now. i had a typo. what does it mean by "linux-headers- 'uname -r'  "
[05:26] <xenos76> !flash
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:26] <blazemonger> ubuntu neeeds to fix it's rage 128 drivers
[05:26] <bruenig> for those 2 people that use that card, yep
[05:27] <Chadarius> rylan: ah that is to download the headers for your version of the linux kernel
[05:27] <Chadarius> rylan: if you type uname -r in a terminal it gives you the kernel version
[05:27] <rylan> Chadarius, so type it in exactly that way?
[05:27] <grao> Who in here runs opensysco or smoothwall
[05:27] <crimsun> blazemonger: which bug reports are you referring to wrt rage 128?
[05:27] <bruenig> rylan, it means linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:27] <CorpseFeeder> Is it normal for ethernet to just drop out dead for no apparent reason in Ubuntu? What's up with my ethernet not accepting DHCP anymore? Has it shat itself? Am I doomed to be confined to static IP now?
[05:28] <bruenig> rylan, the ` is at the top left above tab and to the left of 1, it is not
[05:28] <bruenig> '
[05:28] <Chadarius> rylan: yeah in fact cut and paste is better you have to get the right ` around uname -r to make it work properly
[05:28] <ghostkernel> how come my internet connection with ubuntu is real slow? its very fast with mandrake
[05:28] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: if you have a vector editing program installed like Scribus or Inkscape, you can save to a .ps. Other programs will do that, too.
[05:28] <crimsun> ghostkernel: you're not pedaling fast enough.
[05:28] <rylan> bruenig, thanks
[05:28] <ghostkernel> crimsun what do you mean by that?
[05:28] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, can install either one no issues, what I meant was will then the command be something like :-
[05:29] <crimsun> ghostkernel: it's a tongue-in-cheek response to a contextless question.
[05:29] <knovak> where can I get / how can I add new screen savers to gnome-screensaver?
[05:29] <blazemonger> crimson: example: gnome pannel freezes
[05:29] <jbruckman> does anyone know of a linux editor that works about the same as frontpage(but of course better)?
[05:29] <blazemonger> out of nowhere
[05:29] <crimsun> blazemonger: that's not necessarily the video driver's fault.
[05:29] <Chadarius> jbruckman: NVU is nice if you want WYSIWYG
[05:29] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I just found this. might be the simplest answer: http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ubuntu/
[05:29] <rylan> Chadarius, looks like my headers are up to date,
[05:30] <blazemonger> crimsun:isn't ubuntu stable though?
[05:30] <bruenig> blazemonger, edgy is edgy
[05:30] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: foo2hp2600-wrapper shirish.ps > shirish.zjs with 'shirish' being the name of the *.ps, ok looking tht one also
[05:30] <jbruckman> Chadarius: I need something that will let me log into the server and upload it from my home computer
[05:30] <Chadarius> rylan: good... you just need them to be able to compile stuff :)
[05:30] <blazemonger> if it's stable why are things freezing
[05:30] <julz> ubuntu-es
[05:30] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I believe that is right
[05:30] <crimsun> blazemonger: just because it's marked stable doesn't mean that things will always work correctly.
[05:30] <linuxrockz> hi all can some one tell why my sound ongames sometime works and then not work ?
[05:30] <Vilhelms> I've heard people talk about a script called Xgame for running OpenGL Apps while in Xgl mode but can't seem to find it. Where could I look for a Howto or something similar on using Xgame?
[05:30] <rylan> Chadarius, thats useful. so next step here, i need the latest version of alsa,
[05:30] <Chadarius> jbruckman: Yeah I'm pretty sure that NVU has site management stuff like that
[05:30] <blazemonger> crimsuN:do you have r128 card?
[05:31] <crimsun> blazemonger: no
[05:31] <ghostkernel> is there a way i could speed up my connection in ubuntu 6.10,i using dsl and the internet goes real slow like if i were using dial up
[05:31] <FirstStrike> Vilhelms: Google.com
[05:31] <juancamilo> hi all
[05:31] <bruenig> !hi | juancamilo
[05:31] <ubotu> juancamilo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:31] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, will try tht one tonight, least to say it has been educative & nice knowing you
[05:31] <blazemonger> what is the ideal Ubuntu setup then?
[05:31] <jbruckman> Chadarius: ok. i downloaded NVU, but i haven't played around with it. I also got quanta and bluefish. I was waiting to hear some input before i started learning one.
[05:31] <blazemonger> for a desktop
[05:31] <Spo8> Hi everyone.  i was wondering if i could get some help with partitioning and the install.
[05:31] <rylan> Chadarius, that looks pretty complicated on the website. any chance there is an easier/automated way?
[05:31] <jbruckman> Chadarius: thanks!
[05:31] <juancamilo> does anyone knows how to list display properties
[05:32] <juancamilo> i need my display adress
[05:32] <Madpilot> FirstStrike, please don't tell people here to JFGI...
[05:32] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: good luck. don't forget those 2 commands. you might need to to troubleshoot some more. there could be something else wrong, like a cable or whatever.
[05:32] <ghostkernel>  is there a way i could speed up my connection in ubuntu 6.10,i using dsl and the internet goes real slow like if i were using dial up
[05:32] <FirstStrike> Madpilot: He asked where he could look for info about it :P
[05:32] <Vilhelms> FirstStrike, I've tried... google, ubuntuforums, and the beryl forums
[05:32] <Chadarius> rylan: Its not that bad once you get through it... that howto is well documented. It might seem like gibberish to you but this is the common way to compile drivers in Linux :)
[05:32] <loupgaroublond> hi, i can't get postgresql to install in edgy, it gives me ssl errors
[05:33] <Madpilot> FirstStrike, yes, and you were not really helpful
[05:33] <Chadarius> rylan: This will be old hat to you in a few months :)
[05:33] <loupgaroublond> |aka:  * The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output:
[05:33] <loupgaroublond> |2007-02-14 23:31:19 EST LOG:  could not load root certificate file "root.crt": no SSL error reported
[05:33] <Spo8> okay so anyway, i created two partitions from my main win xp hard drive, one 18gb for the root install, then a 1gb for the swap (still not sure why it's needed), but anyway, during the installation when i select "/" for the big one and "swap" for the small, it says "no rood directory"
[05:33] <rylan> ok, so goto the website and manually download the drivers?
[05:33] <blazemonger> for example:in debian sid flightgear runs fine but in ubuntu flightgear won't run.and i would love to run ubungtu since it's ALOT better
[05:33] <rylan> chadarius, ok, so goto the website and manually download the drivers?
[05:33] <bruenig> !info postgresql
[05:33] <ubotu> postgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.21 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:33] <Chadarius> rylan: Yeah just follow those links
[05:33] <rylan> chadarius,then type in that stuff.
[05:33] <kungfugoat> maybe someone can help me troubleshoot fglrx
[05:33] <kungfugoat> I have my xorg log file pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5873/
[05:33] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:just don't try it on a rage chipset
[05:34] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I have a radeon mobility x1400
[05:34] <bruenig> Spo8, if you are setting one as mounting at / then that should be the root
[05:34] <kungfugoat> fglrx is being loaded but something is getting screwed up with DRI
[05:34] <bruenig> make sure you are formatting that partition
[05:34] <Mixx> I used dd to copy my Edgy install from a 36 GB partition to a 78 GB partition on another disk.  I've reinstalled GRUB and modified /etc/fstab.  However when I use df (or when mythtv discovers free space) it only sees 36GB as being the total space.  Any idea how to fix?
[05:34] <blazemonger> Ubuntu includes more than 16,000 pieces of software, but the core
[05:34] <juancamilo> im getting this error when trying to open kwrite: cannot connect to x server
[05:34] <Chadarius> rylan: find the file names that are listed below the links with the "sudo tar" statements
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  use parted/qtparted/gparted - to resize the drive/partition.
[05:35] <Spo8> oh, i formatted it before the install with partitionMagic, should I be formatting it again when selecting the root?
[05:35] <blazemonger> but only 5% of the software works
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  use it from a live cd..
[05:35] <Mixx> Dr_willis qtparted shows the partition as being 76 GB
[05:35] <bruenig> blazemonger, believe me, your problems are localized to you, not the community as a whole
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  :)  i rember there being a reason not to  use dd on different sized drives.
[05:35] <blazemonger> bruenig:well how do i fix them though?
[05:35] <blazemonger> that's the question
[05:36] <rylan> Chadarius, already downloading em,
[05:36] <blazemonger> i've spent hours searching on google today and taking adderalls
[05:36] <Mixx> Dr_willis I guess this is it ;)
[05:36] <kungfugoat> is fglrx supposed be both a kernel module and xorg module?
[05:36] <kungfugoat> I'm confused about that
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  its sshowing a single partition eh of 76gb ?
[05:36] <bruenig> blazemonger, I am not a graphics card person. Perhaps if you fixed that, some of the others would fall in line.
[05:36] <linuxrockz> need help for sound problems  LTS6.06
[05:36] <bruenig> I have a piece of crap integrated graphics card that does me well
[05:36] <blazemonger> bruenig:thing is i reccomended Ubuntu to a friend of mine  and told him Ubuntu was stable
[05:36] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes, qtparted running on a Knoppix live install shows 78
[05:36] <blazemonger> when it doesnt even work on me
[05:36] <Ferret> It works, for some reason
[05:37] <blazemonger> am i supposed to say ubuntu is faster and more stable than windows ?
[05:37] <Chadarius> rylan: I'm sorry friend but I've got to go hit the hay... I think you will be just fine when you complete that howto though
[05:37] <Ferret> invalid comparison error
[05:37] <bruenig> blazemonger, it is, I am on here very often and even considering that this is the help room so you are by design seeing the worse of the worse, there is very rarely something that isn't user error
[05:37] <rylan> Chadarius, thanks a ton
[05:37] <kungfugoat> this takes me back to slackware and my packard bell machine :|
[05:37] <Mixx> Dr_willis is there any other config file partition size is stored?
[05:37] <bruenig> worst*
[05:37] <kungfugoat> same ole xwindows
[05:38] <MikesHardLinux> xorg??
[05:38] <bruenig> blazemonger, not that it doesn't happen, but to generalize ubuntu as a whole being unstable and not working is just from my experience in this room wrong
[05:38] <blazemonger> bruenig:well if things are working for others why isn't it working for me?
[05:38] <dynamicreflux> anyone have any thoughts on the merge with Lindows?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  thats all on the boot record stuff i think.. id do some googling to see what others have done to fix that
[05:38] <blazemonger> i want to use ubuntu i like it's packaging
[05:38] <Ferret> kungfugoat: yes
[05:38] <blazemonger> but what use is a OS when there's no programs gthat work for it
[05:38] <Dr_willis> dynamicreflux,  its not lindows any more i thouight.
[05:38] <elyon225> !info knotify
[05:38] <ubotu> Package knotify does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:38] <bruenig> blazemonger, perhaps you should get a different graphics card that is better supported
[05:39] <dsquare> cannot install these updates:   libcairo2   libcairo2-dev          -- im trying to upgrade to edgy why do i get this message?
[05:39] <blazemonger> the only distro that's worked on me is dyne
[05:39] <bruenig> blazemonger, they do work
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: of course there is programs
[05:39] <blazemonger> i have one that's suported
[05:39] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: they work
[05:39] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i have plenty of programs that work for me on it.
[05:39] <blazemonger> it's my rage 128
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> dr_willis: yea its still called lindows. they are basing it off ubuntu now and charging money for it
[05:39] <bruenig> well you said the drivers were poor
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> pathetic
[05:39] <blazemonger> at least it says in the xorg config file rage 128
[05:39] <bruenig> that sounds like bad support
[05:39] <Mixx> Dr_willis ok.  thanks very much again for helping me out (you've helped me in the past with something else)
[05:39] <blazemonger> doesn't that give open source a bad name?
[05:39] <bruenig> ati is known for being crappy
[05:39] <MikesHardLinux> geez blazemonger. even my servers run newer/better cards than that :-)
[05:39] <Madpilot> blazemonger, despite the name, a rage128 card only has about 32 or maybe 64Mb of RAM - it is not a modern card by any stretch...
[05:39] <blazemonger> why won't ati release proprietary drivers for the rage 128
[05:39] <bruenig> that is them
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: we are all waiting for ati's open source info
[05:40] <bruenig> not ubuntu
[05:40] <blazemonger> Madpilot:flightgear won't even work in ubuntu
[05:40] <elyon225> Could someone tell me what knotify is?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  for backing up from one hd to another - 'tar' with a lot of options is normally used. not dd.
[05:40] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:40] <bruenig> !info knotify
[05:40] <Madpilot> blazemonger, with a card that elderly, I'm not surprised
[05:40] <kungfugoat> ati always had problems on every OS that I've ever used
[05:40] <ubotu> Package knotify does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:40] <elyon225> bruenig: Heh, already tried that ;)
[05:40] <dynamicreflux> ati sucks
[05:40] <kungfugoat> I only bought this stupid laptop because of the gorgeous screen
[05:40] <blazemonger> well i have a radeon card
[05:40] <kungfugoat> everything else is nvidia
[05:40] <blazemonger> when i tried to install it my computer fried
[05:41] <elyon225> ATI's are actually EXCELLENT cards... it's their DRIVER support that sucks.
[05:41] <blazemonger> (i tried to build a pc from scratch while stoned
[05:41] <bruenig> elyon225, it looks like it is part of kcontrol
[05:41] <Madpilot> blazemonger, so you've got hardware problems. How is this Ubuntu's fault?
[05:41] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:41] <bruenig> an apt-file search at least has it being in that package
[05:41] <blazemonger> if it's hardware problems why would things work perfect in Debian?
[05:41] <dsquare> Cannot install all available updates:   Some updates require the removal of further software.... skipping: libcairo2   libcairo2-dev          -- im trying to upgrade to edgy why do i get this message?
[05:41] <linuxrockz> radeon 9250 series?
[05:41] <dynamicreflux> nvidia is the best choice in light of ubuntu
[05:41] <dsquare> plz help??
[05:41] <MikesHardLinux> not all ati cards are a problem. my 9600xt worked without a hitch, although I haven't tried it with beryl
[05:41] <blazemonger> and slack and arch
[05:41] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes I tried tar first and thought I could shortcut some other issues i ran into by using dd.  looks like it's back to tar if i can't resolve this
[05:42] <Madpilot> MikesHardLinux, likewise, with the same card
[05:42] <blazemonger> could it be the old RAID card i have?
[05:42] <bruenig> blazemonger, I would suggest using them then for obsolete hardware in which drivers aren't available because of the company's refusal to write them and not opening up the specs for others to do so
[05:42] <kungfugoat> ok, time to get a check list so I can figure this out
[05:42] <elyon225> blazemonger: Because everyone here will fight to defend Ubuntu's perfection no matter what that means :)
[05:42] <blazemonger> i've complained to ATI about not having r128 drivers even offered for download
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  i recall using some of the fdisking tools.. but never personally used it.
[05:42] <blazemonger> i've wrote 50 letters to ATI
[05:42] <dynamicreflux> whoa wait, ubuntu's perfection is being questioned? crazy talk
[05:42] <bruenig> stop supporting ati, buy nvidia
[05:43] <kungfugoat> right now I'm afraid of what those large corporations are cooking up
[05:43] <bruenig> that would be a better course
[05:43] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i bet you scared them big time.
[05:43] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:it doesnt work on me
[05:43] <elyon225> blazemonger: You could have bought a BETTER nvidia card for the price you spent on that postage ;)
[05:43] <Mixx> Dr_willis actually, what would tar do that dd does not that would avoid this issue?  seems to me i'd be in the same situation
[05:43] <kungfugoat> if I have to stay up all night to get things to work, I will
[05:43] <blazemonger> bruenig:i'm one of those who has nothing but second hand hardware
[05:43] <Mixx> Dr_willis since all the files would copy over verbatim
[05:43] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:u got adderall?
[05:43] <bruenig> buy second hand nvidia
[05:43] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: what's adderall?
[05:43] <linuxrockz> who would complain about a free os?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  it copys files.. not the filesystem.. and not the 'partition information/mbr'
[05:43] <dynamicreflux> does anyone in here use tilda?
[05:44] <xenos76> I have tried to install flash player any way I can, can someone please tell me why it wont work in Firefox?
[05:44] <dynamicreflux> yea, i hate it too
[05:44] <dynamicreflux> its way too glitchy
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dd is just a raw data copy.. tar will follow the filesystem stuff.
[05:44] <bruenig> xenos76, did you add the right repositories? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:44] <elyon225> xenos76: What version of Ubuntu/Firefox do you have?  And what version of the flash player did you try installing?
[05:44] <elyon225> xenos76: Also, please explain what "doesn't work" means.
[05:44] <blazemonger> well why is ubuntu not working when everything else does?
[05:44] <blazemonger> is ubungtu some kind of ultra secret conspiracy OS?
[05:44] <bruenig> troll
[05:45] <blazemonger> im not a troll
[05:45] <linuxrockz> open source
[05:45] <Mixx> Dr_willis i understand, but I would still ahve to go through steps to create MBR and a new partition table with both options.  I agree tar is probably the preferable method though, if only from a philosophical standpoint
[05:45] <dynamicreflux> conspiracy OS lol. how can it be a conspiracy if its open source
[05:45] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:45] <bruenig> the troll is for observation only, feeding is not allowed
[05:45] <elyon225> blazemonger: ALL Linux systems are incredibly different, but Ubuntu took the longest for me to get running well... but now that it is (for the most part)... I love it.
[05:45] <blazemonger> how long did it take you to get ubuntu working properly?
[05:45] <kungfugoat> I just got a nice second hand IBM server, complete 4 with loud SCSI hard disks and a tape drive!
[05:45] <linuxrockz> want everything done auto buy  microsoft
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> took me about
[05:46] <blazemonger> another thing i dont know any C/C++ so im unable to fix bugs myself
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> 20 minutes
[05:46] <elyon225> blazemonger: Hmm... about 15 reinstalls and a month :)
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  you just partition/format the drive, then tar.. with the normal tools..   problem is that the wrong data is now in the drives boot sectors.
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> worked fine with my laptop
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> wireless and all
[05:46] <xenos76> I try to access youtube videos and it does not work. I dont know if my repositories are up to date or how to fix them. I have flash player nine that I am trying to install. I dont know what version of fireox I have but I am dowloading the new one right now to make shure.
[05:46] <Madpilot> blazemonger, if another distro works better with your hardware, use it. File bugs with Ubuntu, and check back in a few months - april's release might solve some of your issues...
[05:46] <linuxrockz> that y linux rocks
[05:46] <blazemonger> elyon225:im on my 10th about to be 11th
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: try fedora core 6
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im sure theres a proper way to fix it using dd.
[05:46] <Madpilot> blazemonger, installing ubuntu took about 30min; installing ati drives another 5, done. (at least for me...)
[05:46] <blazemonger> maybe building a custom kernel will work
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  perhaps even using dd to skip the first boot records/mbr of the hd
[05:46] <bruenig> installed ubuntu, all worked out of the box
[05:47] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes that's what I did
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> same
[05:47] <blazemonger> maddler:you have other drivers for the rage 128!?!?!?!?!?!?
[05:47] <elyon225> xenos76: With the flash player, extract the libflashplugin.so file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins   Then restart firefox and you should be good to go.
[05:47] <blazemonger> plz send
[05:47] <xenos76> ok thanks Ill try that
[05:47] <Madpilot> blazemonger, me? no, I run a much newer ATI card - 9600XT
[05:47] <bruenig> xenos76, it would be much easier to get it from the repos
[05:47] <blazemonger> maybe theres something in the kernelt hat ubuntu enabled that doesnt like my system?
[05:47] <bruenig> xenos76, what version of ubuntu do you have
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> nah
[05:47] <bruenig> dapper or edgy
[05:47] <xenos76> The latest
[05:47] <kungfugoat> ok, my problem is...
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: u just need to wait like me for ati to release there ish
[05:48] <kungfugoat> I've screwed up a configuration step and now need to roll back to a safe point
[05:48] <elyon225> dynamicreflux: Don't hold your breath.
[05:48] <Mixx> Dr_willis i used dd to copy the partition, not the whole disk, then I reinstalled GRUB to write the MBR (i tried to use the MBR from the old install but it must have had a pointer to a different partition on 0x40)
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> elyon225: i beg to differ actually
[05:48] <blazemonger> i'm prob gonna just quit wasting my time and you folks time and switch to another distro
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> go to FC6
[05:48] <blazemonger> maybe ubuntu hates me cuz i voted for Bush
[05:48] <elyon225> blazemonger: Also... to put it into perspective - I had a Radeon 9600 (much newer than the Rage128)... and I eventually had to give it up to get Ubuntu to work.
[05:48] <MikesHardLinux> blaze: try Fedora
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> but linux video drivers are linux video drivers
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> if they arent on ubuntu
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> they wont be there
[05:48] <bruenig> xenos76, ok do the following: sudo -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  this is a ext2/3 partition? You should then be able to grow the filesystem to fill that extra space. For ext2 filesystems, try using the ext2resize tool.
[05:49] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:how do i build my own distro?
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> get about 10,000 ppl in a community
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  is what i am googing here -----> http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html
[05:49] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: that's a lot of work
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> grab debian or something
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> and have fun ! =)
[05:49] <elyon225> bruenig: Hmm... installing flash from the repos never worked for me... pretty sure it always installed flash7
[05:49] <IcemanV9> is it possible to backport kvm to dapper??
[05:49] <xenos76> ok ill try that
[05:49] <blazemonger> i know dynamicreflux and linux = linux nd gnome=gnome
[05:49] <bruenig> sudo bash -c echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:49] <bruenig> I forgot the bash
[05:49] <kungfugoat> I'm waiting for openbeos
[05:49] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i seriously want to run ubuntu
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> ur like me then
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> i cant run beryl
[05:49] <kungfugoat> debian on the server end and openbeos on the desktop will be nice
[05:49] <blazemonger> the only thing i can think of is the kernel problems
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> i have an x1600 ATI
[05:50] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i can't run beryl either
[05:50] <bruenig> elyon225, you didn't have your backports
[05:50] <blazemonger> i tried to run beryl on my rage 128 gl card
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> no ati users can right now
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> ur not alone
[05:50] <xenos76> bruening: it says that I have a illegal operation using -c
[05:50] <elyon225> bruenig: Yeah, I did... well, I think I did.
[05:50] <MikesHardLinux> blazemonger: I doubt you could ever run beryln on a Rage128
[05:50] <elyon225> blazemonger: Don't try taht ;)
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> no
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> not true
[05:50] <bruenig> elyon225, do apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree | grep Version
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> u probably could
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> just not on these drivers
[05:50] <bruenig> should be a 9 in there
[05:50] <elyon225> blazemonger: And Beryl is great, by the way.
[05:50] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i'm going to reinstall ubuntu one more time but this time i'm going to build a kernel
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  check out --> http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BackupHDD
[05:50] <Mixx> Dr_willis - the partition is already the right size according to the partition table, I wouldn't be able to grow it as it already shows it's 72 GB
[05:50] <blazemonger> and i'm going to log all updates
[05:51] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to compile a kernel module on Dapper running 2.6.15-28-k7. I installed linux-source and -headers but get a lot of compiler errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5870/   ---   Any idea?
[05:51] <blazemonger> and have u folks help me out
[05:51] <bruenig> xenos76, right use the second one that I pasted
[05:51] <jmillikin> In Launchpad, how do I assign a bug to a team? (Hopefully this is the correct channel)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  Hmm.. never mind that last url.. heh .. i missread it.
[05:51] <blazemonger> but for now i'm sick of computers and i gotta go and smoke some mary jane
[05:51] <elyon225> bruenig: Nope... version 7 :)
[05:51] <dynamicreflux> u go do that
[05:51] <Mixx> Dr_willis =)
[05:51] <blazemonger> the way i got into computers was midi
[05:51] <bruenig> elyon225, you must not have backports multiverse
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im wondering how dd did that.. when it ran out of data on the first hd.. what did it write to the rest of the 2nd hd..
[05:51] <blazemonger> i have a bunch of synths and keyboards
[05:51] <xenos76> oh thanks, i didnt see that
[05:51] <Madpilot> jmillikin, try #ubuntu-bugs or #launchpad
[05:52] <blazemonger> and i got a computer so i could use it as a sequencer
[05:52] <blazemonger> maybe i should buy a hardware sequencer
[05:52] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: you can buy my geforce4 4200 card with zalman heatpipes
[05:52] <jmillikin> Will do, thanks
[05:52] <blazemonger> (im just one of those dj's
[05:52] <Madpilot> blazemonger, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation - you've been asked about that before...
[05:52] <blazemonger> lol
[05:52] <callisto> hey room
[05:52] <elyon225> bruenig: Hmm... I've reinstalled so many times (switching from gnome to kde and back)... can't remember if or how I enabled backports this time.
[05:52] <blazemonger> not a geek
[05:52] <bruenig> that one is messed up to, wonder if it will fail
[05:52] <cellfish> is there any way to use chmod to set permissions for a folder to just ONE user?
[05:52] <blazemonger> comp
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  it COULD be you did dd from /dev/hda  when ya should of used /dev/hda1
[05:52] <bruenig> sudo bash -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:52] <bruenig> that is right
[05:53] <cellfish> like chmod cellfish+rwx /media/whatever
[05:53] <blazemonger> i give up on computers..i love my prophet 5 synth
[05:53] <blazemonger> heheheh
[05:53] <bruenig> chmod u+rwx should be enough
[05:53] <xenos76> phew thanks, now its working
[05:53] <blazemonger> and my korg drum machines/samplers
[05:53] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I already tried using my computer to DJ
[05:53] <Madpilot> cellfish, "chown" is the command to change ownership of a folder/file
[05:53] <bruenig> massive commands are fun
[05:53] <elyon225> blazemonger: There are no computer problems, only user errors (user either being you or the programmer)
[05:53] <xenos76> yeah haha
[05:53] <pavs> whats the command to see what services are runnning?
[05:53] <callisto> does anyone know anything about xgl and ati cards
[05:53] <blazemonger> kungfugoatyoure a dj?
[05:53] <cellfish> chown! that's what i needed
[05:53] <cellfish> thank you
[05:53] <blazemonger> im not a programmer
[05:53] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: used to be
[05:54] <kungfugoat> I sold most of my stuff
[05:54] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:really? whatd u play?
[05:54] <blazemonger> i still am into the scene eheh
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  perhaps check   http://www.mckeay.net/secure/2004/10/using_dd_to_clone_a_hd.html heh.
[05:54] <blazemonger> what country u live in?
[05:54] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: electronica, house, hip-hop, etc
[05:54] <kungfugoat> not really hip-hop, but trip-hop
[05:54] <blazemonger> i play what i call psy-trance-idm
[05:54] <blazemonger> lol
[05:54] <pavs> whats the command to see what services are runnning?
[05:54] <blazemonger> house is fun
[05:54] <blazemonger> dj ESP
[05:54] <bruenig> pavs, ps -A
[05:54] <Madpilot> pavs, top
[05:54] <blazemonger> yay
[05:55] <kungfugoat> I spent way too much money on music at places like beatport
[05:55] <pavs> thakns
[05:55] <bruenig> kungfugoat, bittorrent...
[05:55] <kungfugoat> spent way too much money on DJ equipment too
[05:55] <blazemonger> kungfugoat: I still do lol
[05:55] <blazemonger> it's like crack isn't it?
[05:55] <kungfugoat> yep
[05:55] <cellfish> ok what would be the command to change the owner of a folder from 'root' to 'cellfish'? is it sudo chown cellfish /media/whatever?
[05:55] <kungfugoat> It took me 4 months to sell my CD players
[05:55] <kungfugoat> I kept looking at them and weeping
[05:56] <bruenig> cellfish, yeah, you might want to do it recursively
[05:56] <blazemonger> i also throw parties too
[05:56] <kungfugoat> I now want to buy them back
[05:56] <rylan> god i love ubuntu
[05:56] <rylan> who needs a rubix cube, this is way more fun
[05:56] <blazemonger> http://www.dynebolic.org/ this is the distro that works for me
[05:57] <Madpilot> kungfugoat, blazemonger - non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please - try to keep this channel for support questions. Thanks.
[05:57] <MikesHardLinux> rylan: me too!!!
[05:57] <blazemonger> and does what I need it to
[05:57] <blazemonger> it has a midi sequencer
[05:57] <bruenig> troll
[05:57] <kungfugoat> Madpilot: sorry about that
[05:57] <blazemonger> dynebolic is good
[05:57] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:try dynebolic if you are into audio bro
[05:57] <blazemonger> ubuntu's not there yet for audio
[05:57] <Mixx> Dr_willis I dd'd from the 36gb to the 72 gb so when it ran out of things to read it just stopped writing
[05:57] <Michael_Desrosie> okay, so I really want to make the switch over to ubuntu. the only thing keeping me from switching is doubt as to whether or not my wireless card will be supported. its internal, so i cant just take it out and look at the name for it. i found NdisWrapper, and i cant tell whether itll work for me. any suggestions?
[05:57] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: sorry wasn't here, have to look sometimes after a sick grandma :(
[05:58] <blazemonger> i was able to just load dynebolic and click on the sequencer and im able to record
[05:58] <tds5016> hello. I'm having a problem with the xine plugins.... Basically it won't play sirius's online music.
[05:58] <kungfugoat> Michael_Desrosie: do lspci
[05:58] <Mixx> Dr_willis probably the thing to do would have been to create a partition of the same size, dd it over, then resize
[05:58] <blazemonger> but ubu8ntu has to be all complex
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  but did you dd of=/dev/hda or /dev/hda1 ?
[05:58] <tds5016> I'm not sue which plugin I'm using, or which one I should.
[05:58] <dynamicreflux> hey curious, does anyone know of a site(s) with a bunch of terminal commands?
[05:58] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: :-(. hope she is ok. that's ok. i think my last post was just to mention you might need those 2 commands to trouble-shoot
[05:58] <dynamicreflux> just a complete run through of commands available in terminal
[05:58] <Mixx> Dr_willis if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb1
[05:58] <tds5016> hello?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[05:59] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: saw tht, will try all the stuff :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  there goes my theory then.
[05:59] <rylan> it just feels so dam cool every time i do something in terminal and stuff happnes.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> dynamicreflux,  check out some linux tutorials.. :) or browse the man pages
[05:59] <mdesros> so, anybody knowledgeable about support for wireless cards?
[05:59] <Madpilot> rylan, easy geek points ;)
[05:59] <tds5016> anyone able to help?
[06:00] <rylan> though, also scares the hell out of me if i make a small typo
[06:00] <Mixx> Dr_willis i'm sure there's some file that has the old part size on it, I just haven't foudn it yet (google not being cooperative... yet)
[06:00] <rylan> Am i the only person that prays a little whenever they hit sudo make install?
[06:01] <kungfugoat> rylan: no
[06:01] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: there is one more printer to do, care to take a shot at tht one?
[06:01] <Madpilot> rylan, yes, spelling matters ;)
[06:01] <dynamicreflux> why rylan
[06:01] <dynamicreflux> lol
[06:01] <tds5016> anyone able to help me out with the sirius not working with the plugin I'm using?
[06:01] <Madpilot> rylan, I avoid that by never compiling, ever :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  that would be the data in the boot record i am guessing.
[06:01] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: lol! is it by any chance a Dell 3000CN?
[06:01] <rylan> hahaha
[06:01] <kungfugoat> rylan: it's pray and then oh sh*t when you see a bunch of errors about pointers
[06:02] <rylan> i bet.
[06:02] <rylan> so far no errors
[06:02] <rylan> i hope.
[06:02] <pavs> kinda offtpic question I am trying to setup apache server I can see the apache folder from my machine but when I try to do it from a differant machine with my ip address I see my router configuration page, how do I set it up so that I can see my website/apache page?
[06:02] <Spo8> Hi, i'm getting this error when trying to install.  can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?  http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2281/partitionproblemsgm9.png
[06:02] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: srry to disappoint u but it's an Epson Stylus R230 (USB-based) connected to a Windows machine by USB (I think) although accessible through the network, it's not a network printer
[06:02] <redbox> pavs: you need to forward port 80 on your router to your local machine that is running apache
[06:03] <pavs> redbox can I msg you in private>
[06:03] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: what version of windows is on the computer with the epson?
[06:03] <kungfugoat> pavs: you shouldn't be seeing your router configuration page unless you're typing in the wrong address
[06:03] <rylan> WEEEE this is fun.... oh crap! (a short story about linux terminal)
[06:03] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: It's '98 SE
[06:03] <tds5016> anyone able to help with video plugins with firefox?
[06:04] <pavs> how do I forward port 80 to my local machine?
[06:04] <rylan> time for reboot and praying
[06:05] <Spo8> can anyone help me out on that install problem above?  i was hoping to get this installed tonight.
[06:05] <pavs> when I do http://localhost
[06:05] <pavs> I see my apache webpage
[06:05] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i am checking to see of the r230 is even supported yet
[06:05] <pavs> but when I put my ip it goes to router configuration
[06:06] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool :)
[06:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: the correct name is Epson Stylus Photo R230
[06:08] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card
[06:08] <redbox> pavs: go to your  router configuration there should be an option to port forward
[06:08] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: it's not listed at openprinting.org, but it'll probably work with the same driver as the whole R200 series....I assume.
[06:09] <Nergar> can ubuntu tell me the manufacturer of a wlan usb card?
[06:09] <rylan> IT WORKS!
[06:09] <Nergar> :/
[06:09] <cafuego_> Nergar: usually yes. `lsusb'
[06:09] <rylan> Oh thats just sexy
[06:10] <Nergar> thnx cafuego_
[06:10] <rylan> i am a god among people with no ability to use linux! ROAR
[06:10] <cafuego_> Nergar: it might show the manufacturer as 4 hex digits though
[06:10] <redbox> Nergar: or try lspci -v
[06:10] <Mixx> Dr_willis i'm going to try running fsck on startup and see if that .. um .. sorts things out.  =)
[06:10] <cafuego_> redbox: No.
[06:10] <tds5016> how do I see what software I have installed via apt-get?
[06:10] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: from the review http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/printers/0,39051175,39097221p,00.htm it seems it works but not the way I would like it though
[06:10] <cafuego_> Nergar: If you get hex digits, google is your friend :-)
[06:10] <redbox> cafuego_: oh! didn't see "usb card" ;p
[06:10] <Borat> Hi, does anyone know where to find the fonts luxi sans, or Swis721?
[06:10] <Borat> Thanks.
[06:10] <Nergar> :D
[06:10] <tds5016> like I want to search for wha tI have installed in terms of firefox plugins.
[06:10] <tds5016> ^^
[06:11] <Spo8> so no one can help with my installation problem?
[06:11] <[R] eaper> anyone can help me with this?? http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[06:11] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to install the old version of flash on Edgy? Edgy comes with version 9 I would like the dapper version. I think that's 7
[06:11] <cafuego_> Borat: Luxi is in `ttf-xfree86-nonfree'
[06:11] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: ya. that's pretty typical. here's where I'm looking right now: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200
[06:12] <redbox> Spo8: whats your problem?  I see your image, but whats the issue?
[06:12] <dsquare> wow is the upgrade usually 1.2 gigs?~!?!!
[06:12] <Borat> cafuego, thanks !
[06:12] <Spo8> redbox: See at the bottom how it says "No root file system"?  It isn't letting me continue the installation, it just brings up that notice.
[06:12] <Asc__> tds5016: Well, synaptic should list all such software.
[06:12] <mike__> using Azureus with 8 to 9 Mbps cable modem speed trying to download ubuntu   and only get incredibly bad (<50k/s) download speeds????
[06:13] <Asc__> tds5016: Although firefox plugins are also found under ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:13] <tds5016> Asc__, oh okay.
[06:13] <IcemanV9> where OR how do i get qemu packager to update its package from 8.0 to 9.0 for dapper??
[06:13] <DigitalNinja> I see Flash on dapper is 9 also
[06:13] <GMWeezel> How can I make xorg use the "nvidia" driver for 3D acceleration but the "nv" driver for 2D?
[06:13] <redbox> Spo8: your missing something in the earlier steps .. why is / sda5 ? what is sda1 ?
[06:13] <mike__> what am i doing wwrong??
[06:13] <cafuego_> and Swiss 721 appears to be downloadable. Just put the .TTF in ~/.fonts/
[06:14] <redbox> mike__: are there a lot of seeders?
[06:14] <Spo8> redbox: sda1 is my main windows install.  I created those two with partitionmagic in windows.
[06:14] <mike__> hold on..
[06:14] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to go back to flash 7 in edgy
[06:14] <DigitalNinja> ??
[06:15] <redbox> Spo8: I'm not familiar with the installation process your image is showing so its hard to say .. is there an option to set sda5 to primary?
[06:15] <redbox> Spo8: or to set ext3 on sda5 ?
[06:15] <nnliu> my ubuntu says no swap space available, can anyone help me out? I have created a linux swap partition
[06:15] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I read tht page but pretty much is overboard, it does mention something about gutenprint, anyway u can make it less technical for guys like me to understand :)
[06:16] <Mixx> Dr_willis need to have the super-block updated ;)
[06:16] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i can show you the basic network set-up for a windows shared printer (samba), but I fear you may have some trouble to get it working because of that specific printer
[06:16] <[R] eaper> please help me!! http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[06:16] <Asc__> DigitalNinja: Probably if you replace the flash 9 plugin with the flash 7 plugin, that would do it.  Not sure where'd you get the v7 plugin these days though.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  yea.. i was thinking somthing like that.. but couldent rember the name
[06:16] <MTecknology> Need some help... I have Ubuntu Linux installed nice on my tablet. I'm bored so I felt like installing LinuxMint (A Ubuntu based distro). When trying to boot it hangs. It goes through the regular boot process. The same point where Ubuntu will pause w/ the sliding bar and the screen flickers then loads the desktop, LinuxMint will hang. I waited for almost 15min and got nothing more. I tried booting w/ the acpi=off option but got nowhere. Any ideas?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im not that geek-haxor
[06:17] <Spo8> redbox: no, not that I'm aware of.  Both partitions are logical, if that makes a difference.
[06:17] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: tht is alright, atleast I would have had tried :)
[06:17] <DigitalNinja> Asc__: Thanks! I'll have to do some searching
[06:17] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: You need different video card drivers probably; I remeber having the same problem. If you are using ATI, try fglrx.
[06:18] <[R] eaper> i have ATI, and the ati.com fglrx driver
[06:18] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: Did you reset xorg to reflect the changes?
[06:18] <[R] eaper> yes
[06:18] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. from the windows comp with the printer, you need it's ip address, and the share name of the printer.
[06:19] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: Hmm well not sure what I did to get it working and I did it so long ago, the links aren't in my history any more. Buena suerte.
[06:19] <nnliu> my ubuntu says no swap space available, can anyone help me out? I have created a linux swap partition already
[06:19] <unperson> Hi, my system has an Athlon 64 X2 processor.  I was trying to run the amd64 version of edgy but found the lack of compatibility with proprietary 32-bit binaries too much trouble.  Now I've installed the 32-bit version of Edgy, what kernel should I use (686, k7, etc.)?
[06:19] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: means even tht printer has an ip address, I was specifically told it's not a network printer (confused)
[06:20] <unperson> Oh, maybe it's moot.  It looks like k7 and 686 now say they're obsoleted by the generic image.
[06:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it's connected through the Win'98 SE machine
[06:20] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: no, not the printer. just the computer's ip address
[06:20] <[R] eaper> damn... :(
[06:20] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: since you'll be connecting through that computer
[06:20] <MTecknology> Need some help... I have Ubuntu Linux installed nice on my tablet. I'm bored so I felt like installing LinuxMint (A Ubuntu based distro). When trying to boot it hangs. It goes through the regular boot process. The same point where Ubuntu will pause w/ the sliding bar and the screen flickers then loads the desktop, LinuxMint will hang. I waited for almost 15min and got nothing more. I tried booting w/ the acpi=off option but got nowhere. Any ideas?
[06:20] <MTecknology> just by the time it's hanging i would guess an xorg problem, but i've know idea how to diagnose the exact problem or where to begin trying to fix it
[06:21] <MTecknology> also, i can't find a channel for linuxmint
[06:21] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool got tht, so let's say it's 192.168.1. 10 & the name is 'G2'
[06:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: do you know how to share the printer on the windows computer?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,   could try the  'nofb' boot option. to disalbe the framebuffer and the 'nosplash' option to disable the silly splash screen
[06:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: nope, not at all :P
[06:22] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,  that may let ya see any error messages
[06:22] <nnliu> The IRC channel is ready. The server is irc.spotchat.org (standard port 6667) and the channel name: #linuxmint.com
[06:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: but willing to learn
[06:22] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: :-) hehe. you'll need to tell windows to share the printer. the steps you take depend on if that computer already has sharing enabled or not
[06:23] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: here's a tutorial. it should be straightforward: http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/work/articles/906Jun/Shareprinter.asp
[06:24] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it should be in sharing, as other comps. are able to print through tht, but still run tht one by me so I can check out if it's right or not, it doesn't hurt to check stuff
[06:24] <rylan> i have a question, is it possible to run photoshop in ubuntu. and if so how.
[06:24] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install avant, but a dependancy is missing and I can't install... Here is the output when I try to install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5878/plain/
[06:24] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: you may have to go all the way to the network settings to make sure that sharing is enabled. I believe it is disabled by default
[06:25] <mike__> to whoever asked me about seeds in azurues.......i uninstalled azureus and reinstalled and it seems to be working now  seeds 5(45)
[06:25] <mike__> speed at 354 kB/s
[06:25] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: then, (after a reboot) you can right-click on the printer and choose "sharing" and then set it to be shared
[06:25] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok will check tht & will enable it, after tht?
[06:26] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: right.
[06:26] <rylan> anyone?
[06:26] <rylan> photoshop on linux?
[06:26] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool will do tht :)
[06:26] <Asc__> rylan: Try WINE.  It used to work for me.  It doesn't any more, but seems to work better for other people.
[06:26] <rylan> Asc__, could you run photoshop through wine?
[06:26] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I forgot to ask, are you using regular ubuntu (Gnome) or a different one? Xbunutu or Kbunutu?
[06:26] <Kilroy> why dont u just use gimp?
[06:27] <glok> anyone have an opinion on which tape backup program is most reliable?
[06:27] <rylan> because i dont know gimp.
[06:27] <mike__> learn gimp
[06:27] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it's Ubuntu 6.06 :)
[06:27] <cafuego_> rylan: It's a lit easier to learn gimp than it is to run Photoshop on wine.
[06:27] <cafuego_> lot easier
[06:27] <rylan> hmmm, ill considder that
[06:27] <cafuego_> in fact, learning gimp is possible at all
[06:27] <asc_> rylan: I used to run 5 with it, and I also heard that 7 worked.  Not sure about more recent versions, but there should be information in winehq's application database