[10:07] <hjd> Question about tags: there's this bug concerning a regression. It was introduced in a newer package version, so some newer Ubuntu releases are affected. However, before it was discovered the patch which causes it was applied to 14.04 as part of an SRU. So both regression-release and regression-update applies right? (Bug 1508562 for those interested)
[12:59] <rbasak> hjd: I'd say so, yes. It would be helpful if you identified the versions involved: which SRU version introduced the regression, which Ubuntu releases and package versions contain the regression, which upstream commit and release fixes the regression, etc.
[13:34] <hjd> The information on version numbers is sorta there, but I can organize it a bit better.
[13:35] <hjd> "which upstream commit and release fixes the regression" None so far :( Well, except reverting/rolling back. I've reported a bug in Debian though, since the issue will anyways need to be resolved for the latest version of the package.
[13:35] <hjd> rbasak: ^
[13:48] <MegaBrutal> Hi all!
[13:51] <MegaBrutal> I reported bug #1509717. Has anyone else encountered it or does anyone have a workaround?
[13:52] <jtaylor> I also get md errors, though my raid is not the boot device and everything works
[13:53] <MegaBrutal> It doesn't work for me. I get dropped to initrd shell, because LVM can't activate the mirrors.


[21:47] <saji> erUSUL, how did you point ubottu to me. That's interesting..
[21:47] <longtime> Hi
[21:47] <seidos> ldleworker_: so the problem occurs when x starts, not before (POST goes with a hitch)?
[21:48] <erUSUL> saji: you swa the line i typed « !factoid | nickname » but anyway infobots are offtopic here ;P
[21:48] <masterchief324> what is the unix command for deleting files?
[21:48] <cornet> ok so i connect to the internet with public address on eth0 and firestarter doesn't setup stateful tracking INPUT but rather just DROPS anything bound for the public address (apart from ICMP) - is this normal ?
[21:48] <saji> erUSUL, so what will this '!' follow with, to call ubottu.?
[21:48] <guntbert> saji: the | symbol does that
[21:48] <pik}> i cant get my atheros AR5008 wireless card to working with ubuntu 9.04 64 edition. can someone please help me? :(
[21:48] <BlackFate> masterchief324, rm
[21:48] <seidos> ldleworker_: the first thing I can think of is mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.old
[21:48] <masterchief324> thanks
[21:48] <ikonia> !ubottu > saji
[21:48] <erUSUL> saji: with any of the defined factoids
[21:49] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272348/
[21:49] <seidos> ldleworker_: since you say cntrl-alt-f1 doesn't work.  does pressing capslock or numlock on the keyboard change the lights?
[21:49] <saji> erUSUL, factoid?
[21:49] <ikonia> saji: read the info ubottu just pm'd you
[21:49] <saji> @guntbert what does the '>' sign do?
[21:49] <ldleworker_> seidos: No it does not
[21:49] <ikonia> saji: read the info ubottu just pm'd you
[21:50] <longtime> I was wondering if anyone knew if ubuntu jaunty had a better sound equalizer available?
[21:50] <ldleworker_> seidos: From root console, I did the backup for xorg.conf, then ran startx - I get the same corruption
[21:50] <nemesis1911> when i tried using rhythmbox my computer frezez
[21:50] <guntbert> saji: you get a "private" message from ubottu
[21:50] <masterchief324> how do you remove a read-only folder
[21:50] <cornet> masterchief324: sudo rm <folder>
[21:51] <masterchief324> thanks
[21:51] <guntbert> !ot > saji like this
 don't run that, it will remove the folder
[21:51] <seidos> ldleworker_: did you try setting vesa in xorg.conf under device?  well, that doesn't really matter, you're saying your keyboard doesn't even work, that would only affect video.
 you want to use chmod
[21:51] <BlackFate> master_of_master, to remove folder , sudo rm -rf <folder>
[21:51] <masterchief324> thats what i am trying to do
[21:51] <nemesis1911> .. I don't know why but my rythmbox crashes my computer why?
[21:51] <seidos> ldleworker_: maybe an fsck might work, you might have file corruption on your disk after the power went out
[21:52] <lstarnes> BlackFate: the -f isn't always needed
[21:52] <THRHOPE4LINUX> Anyone here run ubuntu sparc?
[21:52] <ldleworker_> seidos: I tried that.
[21:52] <ldleworker_> seidos : My installation is foobar isn't it
 you said remove read-only, not delete the folder...
[21:52] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert: so how would you run that in terminal?
[21:52] <saji> !questions  > guntbert
[21:52] <cornet> Steeley: no he said "remove _a_ read-only folder"
[21:52] <seidos> ldleworker_: it might be fubar, I'm trying to think of what I would do.  it must be fixable somehow...you can log into a shell
[21:52] <saji> guntbert, did u get that?
[21:52] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: misunderstanding - I would have needed the content of the script, not the name :-) - but anyway - I gotta go - sorry
[21:53] <Steeley> cornet: misread it :)
[21:53] <seidos> ldleworker_: maybe you can do sudo apt-get remove xorg or something
[21:53] <masterchief324> got a long list of this rm: cannot remove `/media/JASPER/Documents/music/Tubular Bells 2003/Folder.jpg': Read-only file system
[21:53] <masterchief324> rm: cannot remove `/media/JASPER/Documents/music/01 Hotel California.wma': Read-only file system
[21:53] <saji> guntbert, got that privete message?
[21:53] <seidos> ldleworker_: then sudo apt-get install xorg
[21:53] <bro> seidos, fsck isn't distructive? badblocks sure isn't on read mode only
[21:53] <lstarnes> masterchief324: that's because of the file system's permissions
[21:54] <lstarnes> masterchief324: the device might be read-only
[21:54] <cornet> masterchief324: what's the device ?
[21:54] <seidos> bro: fsck on a reboot, he said he tried it already.
[21:54] <masterchief324> a 8 gb sandisk flash drive
[21:54] <halberd> I was using my computer when all of a sudden it logged me out
[21:54] <halberd> how can I discover why
[21:54] <lstarnes> halberd: did it restart?
[21:54] <seidos> bro: well, he just said he tried fsck, I read the command for fsck but I don't remember what it is now :\
[21:54] <halberd> no restart just logout
[21:54] <jana_> i have a problem with an asus l 1400 laptop and it´s intel graphic chip (the pixels are changing anytime ) does anybody know the problem with this old machine ???
[21:55] <bro> seidos, ok, i was just saying because i read about it being distructive, i guess it usses write mode automatically
[21:55] <saji> how do you send privete meassge to me, @guntbert Please reply to this doubt too, then i'll stop.
[21:55] <lstarnes> halberd: open a terminal and type dmesg
[21:55] <lstarnes> saji: /msg nickname message
[21:55] <nemesis1911> yoo guys how do I sync songs onto my iPhone in ubuntu.. Rythmbox crashes my computer I dunno why
[21:55] <cornet> masterchief324: obvious i know but ... does it have a "lock" switch on it ?
[21:55] <seidos> bro: oh yeah !fsck
[21:55] <seidos> !fsck
[21:55] <erUSUL> nemesis1911: gtkpod ?
[21:55] <saji> @guntbert, how do you send privete meassge to me
[21:55] <ikonia> saji: can you stop playing with the bot
[21:55] <bro> !fsck
[21:55] <masterchief324> no
[21:55] <seidos> bro: I better remember sudo shutdown -F -r now
[21:55] <ikonia> saji: you have been given information on the bot in a private message please read that
[21:56] <mainr30> hey guys
[21:56] <erUSUL> saji: lstarnes already answered that to you
[21:56] <saji> ikonia, is guntbert a bot too?
[21:56] <mainr30> samba aint workin for me
[21:56] <ikonia> saji: no
[21:56] <mainr30> could someone give me a hand please
[21:56] <ldleworker_> seidos: uninstalling and reinstalling xorg provides the same behaivor
[21:56] <bro> seidos "sudo badblocks -s -v -c 10240 /dev/sd*" :)
[21:56] <cornet> masterchief324: humm ok - what's the device name (type mount and look for /media/JASPER)
[21:56] <root> it wont let me login to my samba profile from an M$ machine
[21:56] <erUSUL> !details | root
[21:56] <saji> ikonia, then i' have alraedy stopped playing with the bot.
[21:56] <Guest72633> erUSUL, im trying, just give me a chance :)
[21:57] <ikonia> Ronald: samba profile from an microsoft machine, can you be more specific ?
[21:57] <ikonia> Ronald: sorry
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Mainr30: dont forget: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[21:57] <saji> erUSUL, how will you send a private message to someone?
[21:57] <masterchief324> /dev/sdf1 on /media/JASPER type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,utf8,shortname=winnt,uid=1000)
[21:57] <erUSUL> Guest72633: do it in one line or it will impossible to follow you
[21:57] <jana_> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[21:57] <lstarnes> saji: please read what I said to you two minutes ago
[21:57] <ikonia> Guest72633: samba profile from an microsoft machine, can you be more specific ?
[21:57] <seidos> ldleworker_: do you have any ideas?
[21:57] <lstarnes> saji: /msg nickname message
[21:57] <Ronald> ikonia, hi mate ;)
[21:57] <Guest72633> if i try and login to my domain profile i get a "windows could not locate the roaming profile and is logging you on with a tempory profile instead, changes to this profile will not be saved when you logoff" message and it just creates a new temp profile for me
[21:57] <halberd> lstarnes, http://paste.lisp.org/display/87193 is the last few lines from dmesg
[21:57] <ikonia> Ronald: hey, sorry about that
[21:57] <erUSUL> saji: as already said lstarnes answered you two minutes ago 22:55 < lstarnes> saji: /msg nickname message
[21:58] <Guest72633> i can map network drives on the PDC but i cant logon to the PDC
[21:58] <Guest72633> anyone any ideas?
[21:58] <ldleworker_> seidos: is there anyway we can ask the system what's wrong? Like is there an xorg log somewhere it might be puking out the answer?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest72633: if you edit /etc/smaba/sm.conf   you can add shares easy
[21:58] <halberd> lstarnes, the line "[26082.962469] [drm:gm45_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0" appears to be the last error
[21:58] <Ronald> ikonia, don't worry about it :D
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> smb.conf
[21:58] <erUSUL> ldleworker_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:58] <seidos> ldleworker_: ah, yeah, I think it's /etc/X11
[21:58] <halberd> lstarnes, that and "[26085.851568] [drm:i915_setparam] *ERROR* unknown parameter 4"
[21:58] <Guest72633> ActionParsnip, thanks, i know how to add shares, i just cant login to samba as a pdc
[21:58] <lstarnes> halberd: it might be something else. see if you get logged out randomly again
[21:58] <saji> erUSUL, i thought he was correcting one of my errors. anyways.. thanks... :-)
[21:58] <cornet> masterchief324: that's quite odd, any interesting output from dmesg ?
[21:58] <lstarnes> halberd: those may be driver errors of some sort
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: quit changing name, its REALLY annoying
[21:59] <lstarnes> halberd: I think X might somehow use drm
[21:59] <centaur5> my system will no longer boot cause fsck fails so I manually run e2fsck -f -v -y /dev/sda1 and reboot but it still gives the same message.  Can anything else be done to repair it?
[21:59] <halberd> what does drm stand for
[21:59] <halberd> not digital rights management
[21:59] <jana_> can anyone help me how to configure the xorg.conf for that intel onboard graphic chip???
[21:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, sorry, i set it to root but nickserv changed it, then i figured i mayaswell use my normal name
[21:59] <lstarnes> halberd: in graphics, it has something to do with direct rendering
[21:59] <Ronald> halberd, draconian ;)
[21:59] <Ronald> direct rendering manager
[21:59] <seidos> lstarnes: nope erUSUL is right, it's in /var/log
[21:59] <masterchief324> designer@designer3:/media/JASPER/Documents$ dmesg
[21:59] <masterchief324> [    0.000000] BIOS EBDA/lowmem at: 0009fc00/0009fc00
[21:59] <masterchief324> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[21:59] <masterchief324> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[21:59] <masterchief324> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.28-15-generic (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 18:40:08 UTC 2009 (Ubuntu 2.6.28-15.49-generic)
[21:59] <FloodBot2> masterchief324: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <halberd> ok
[21:59] <erUSUL> centaur5: why did you not passed -p to fsck ( -p --> preen or repair)
[22:00] <lstarnes> halberd: probably direct rendering manager
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    then set your samba password, you can now set the samba password of your normal user to give it samba access
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: forget root, it makes things not work
[22:00] <peol> Hey, anyone good at PulseAudio debugging? I'm getting crackly sound in games (mainly QUAKE LIVE), I've tried all possible solution mentioned on Google but still no-go :/
[22:00] <centaur5> erUSUL: I read in a forum to just use the gparted options which are -f -v -y
[22:00] <peol> Debugging: http://pastebin.com/d1f18e1d0
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: use the first user you created at install
[22:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, i know know how to do that too about the samba password, ive done it i just cant get samba to log me on, it was working before, now it doesnt
[22:01] <seidos> lstarnes: I don't see how viewing the log will help to fix this particular problem if you already tried removing and reinstalling the xorg package
[22:01] <The-Druid_> i'm having problems to install a j2re plugin on my firefox... any idea?
[22:01] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, with regard root i meant i was trying to use that as my IRC name.... not my ubuntu username
[22:01] <seidos> lstarnes: this is theoretical for me, I don't have a system I can try it on, unfortunately
[22:01] <erUSUL> centaur5: dunno maybe the fs needs some repair ...
[22:01] <lstarnes> seidos: the logs would likely provide some clues as to what is causing the problem
[22:01] <jana_> why doesn´t anyone give a damn on my problem???
[22:02] <lstarnes> jana_: please don't assume that
[22:02] <erUSUL> jana_: it shuld configure itself
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: check https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/82213
[22:02] <erUSUL> jana_: but if it does not try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[22:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, i know how to make network shares...
[22:02] <lstarnes> jana_: it is possible that nobody currently has an answer for your question or someone is looking for one
[22:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, i run a domain controller....
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the bit starting [DOWNLOADS]    should be added to /etc/samba.smb.conf
[22:02] <erUSUL> jana_: also keep in mind the problems intel card give in jaunty
[22:02] <matt2154> ikonia:  Done.  Created a user that has its homedir in /tmp/username.   I can get to the desktop fine with this user.
[22:02] <erUSUL> !intel |ç jana_
[22:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, k..
[22:02] <nemesis1911> yoooooooo
[22:02] <centaur5> erUSUL: Are there other ways to repair it or do I have to do a new install?
[22:02] <erUSUL> !intel | jana_
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you can use that as a basis and edit as you need
[22:03] <ikonia> matt2154: so the problem is your nfs mount
[22:03] <nemesis1911> how do I get my dam iPhone to work in UBUNTU??
[22:03] <erUSUL> centaur5: i would try with the -p option to fsck
[22:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, i know how to make network shares, for the third time.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the thing in the brackets is the sare name, the rest is self explanatory
[22:03] <matt2154> ikonia:  Another oddity, sometimes I can get to the desktop fine with an NFS homedir'ed user by using failsafe gnome.  Othertimes, not so much.
[22:03] <shruggar> is there an easy way to set up an alternative boot which loads pretty much nothing other than wifi drivers? I have a netbook and am looking for a really-fast boot for when I don't want to do anything other than connect to the nearest wifi access point and then ssh somewhere else
[22:03] <jana_> thank you all !!!
[22:03] <centaur5> erUSUL: Thank you very much!  I will try that and cross my fingers.
[22:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, I Know How To Make Network Shares
[22:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, I Know How To Make Network Shares
[22:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, I Know How To Make Network Shares
[22:03] <FloodBot2> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <ikonia> matt2154: because it doens't need to map to the home dir for failsafe,
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then once you add those, restart samba service, the shares will be accessible
[22:04] <jana_> i try to follow the link you gave me...
[22:04] <nemesis1911> oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmggggggggggggggggggggg
[22:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, i just cant get samba to log me on as a domain user, its stopped working!
[22:04] <ikonia> nemesis1911: stop that please.
[22:04] <bro> seidos, ldleworker_, yep just remembered from another user: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   try that
[22:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, it was working, now it doesnt work and i have to restart my server every time this happens
[22:04] <nemesis1911> ikonia .. B1te m3
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then im unsure. ive not used a DC for auth
[22:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, k
[22:04] <lstarnes> nemesis1911: that is not appropriate
[22:05] <erUSUL> shruggar: you can tweak one of the runlevels to your needs
[22:05] <nemesis1911> not kewl..
[22:06] <ldleworker_> bro : Nope same thing
[22:06] <lenswipe> owned
[22:06] <ikonia> nemesis1911: please don't do that again, when someone aks you to not do something that disrupts the channel, please don't do it next time
[22:06] <shruggar> erUSUL, how do I know which runlevel is free to be used? should I just defined one with a really high number and then pass some init flag into grub?
[22:06] <erUSUL> shruggar: for a start disable gdm so Xwindows does not load then you can disable other services
[22:06] <seidos> man, time is moving fast today
[22:06] <ldleworker_> bro, seidos : Here are the relevant warning and error lines in my Xorg log : http://ldlework.pastebin.com/m4d02d18a
[22:06] <Barnose> Someone please tell me what to type to join the windows xp chat
[22:06] <matt2154> ikonia: OK, that makes sense.  I'm still unclear why failsafe only works intermittently though (I'm now trying to duplicate it not working in failsafe mode).
[22:06] <seidos> someone slow it down
[22:06] <lstarnes> Barnose: /join ##windows
[22:06] <ikonia> matt2154: yes, intermittently is a bit odd
[22:06] <matt2154> ikonia: is it possible to view a gnome startup log somehow?
[22:06] <ldleworker_> seidos bro : I noticed the startx spit out errors on the command line before starting
[22:07] <The-Druid_> i'm having problems to install a j2re plugin on my firefox... any idea?
[22:07] <ikonia> matt2154: /var/log contains the bulk of the logs, look at the x log too
[22:07] <ldleworker_> seidos bro : can I save that to a file to see what it says?
[22:07] <erUSUL> shruggar: ubuntu boots into 2   3,4 and 5 should be free to use
[22:07] <ldleworker_> seidos bro : startx > somefile.txt ?
[22:07] <mneptok> The-Druid_: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[22:07] <erUSUL> shruggar: after that you can add a grub entry that boots into that runlevel
[22:07] <bro> ldleworker_, not that i know, you can always take a picture of the screen :)
[22:07] <masterchief324> http://paste.ubuntu.com/272355/
[22:08] <Q|> Hi Folks. Anyone an idea why my X limits my resolution to 1600x1200 with the new monitor, even though it can display 1944xsomething? The Monitor is not being recognized (Unknown)
[22:08] <masterchief324> sorry bout the flood earlier.
[22:08] <shruggar> erUSUL, is this something I'll absolutely need to use the command-line for, or is there a handy-dandy gui for editing runlevels in ubuntu?
[22:08] <ldleworker_> bro: the text from running the command before it takes over the screen I mean.
[22:08] <ldleworker_> bro : startx command's textual output
[22:08] <erUSUL> shruggar: maybe bum can do it i dunno for sure
[22:08] <erUSUL> !info bum | shruggar
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Q|: you could set the res in xorg.conf. Do you really want to use that res. everything will be tiny
[22:09] <seidos> ldleworker_: I'm looking at my log for comparison...
[22:09] <matt2154> ikonia: are you sure failsafe doesnt use the home dir?  It is coming up with my customized icon bar, and hitting terminal drops me to my home dir...
[22:09] <seidos> ldleworker_: that's a good idea, startx > somefile.txt, never tried it
[22:09] <ikonia> matt2154: it may read the home dir if it's there - but it doesn't/shouldn't need it
[22:10] <Zappo> Hi, im having a problem with my Mic. does anyone know how to get it to work?
[22:10] <Loder> What is the best VM software for running ubuntu and fedora on windows? Anyone know?
[22:10] <sebsebseb> Loder: Why with Windows as the host?
[22:10] <Ktron> Loder, 'best'? There's vmware, virtualbox, and virtual pc
[22:11] <cornet> masterchief324: what was that disk formatted in ?
[22:11] <ldleworker_> seidos: startx is /definately/ outputting something when I run it - however this text is not being piped into the file via startx > somefile.txt
[22:11] <Vik> hi sebastien_
[22:11] <ikonia> Loder: ask in ##windows
[22:11] <Q|> ActionParsnip: Yes, it's a 22" CRT and I drove this resolution already on my old one, which was the predecessor (?) of the current one. CompaQ P1100 -> CompaQ P1220. That's why I'm so confused it doesn't recognise it.
[22:11] <saji> @Loder, Virtualbox  us userfriendly.
[22:11] <shruggar> Loder, I'd recommend virtualbox
[22:11] <Loder> Well, I have windows vista and I'm not sure of how I should get a triple boot going with fedora and ubuntu (and vista), so somebody suggested that I test with virtual machines
[22:11] <Vik> Hi saji
[22:11] <sebsebseb> Vik: You meant me?
[22:11] <longtime> Is there a way to tune your sound level like you would with a graphic equalizer with the standard jaunty jackalope running gear?
[22:11] <ikonia> Loder: ##windows will help you with virtualzation
[22:11] <seidos> ldleworker_: perhaps at this point we should eliminate that your hardware is causing the problem
[22:11] <saji> @Vik, Hi
[22:12] <jedc> longtime try alsamixer in a terminal
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Loder: Virtualbox :)
[22:12] <seidos> ldleworker_: the possibility, anyway
[22:12] <ldleworker_> seidos: okay
[22:12] <JNSamuel> how risky is it to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 within the update manager?
[22:12] <Loder> okay, thanks
[22:12] <longtime> will do
[22:12] <ikonia> JNSamuel: shouldn't be risky
[22:12] <lstarnes> JNSamuel: if you do things carefully, it should work
[22:12] <veinor_> how can I find out why I got banned?
[22:12] <bro> seidos: koala is up and running on vm :D
[22:12] <ikonia> veinor_: join #ubuntu-ops
[22:12] <lstarnes> JNSamuel: make sure you read the release/upgrading notes first
[22:12] <seidos> longtime: I have NO idea
[22:12] <JNSamuel> one of my friends tried it a while back, he said his machine couldn't boot up when he rebooted.
[22:12] <EvaLuaTe> does anyone know a good cursor editor that can easily be installed on ubuntu?
[22:13] <longtime> all good :-)
[22:13] <xmnt> Loder, I would use virtualbox - doesn't get any easier, but if you want to triple boot create 3 partitions, install windows 1st and one of the lin distros last so you get the grub bootloader
[22:13] <seidos> longtime: but I'm sure it's possible.  Anything is possible, with enough skill
[22:13] <Vik> hi Loder
[22:13] <longtime> Well, skill is where I'm lacking
[22:13] <seidos> longtime: ditto
[22:13] <longtime> but I'll try alsamixer in a terminal
[22:13] <seidos> longtime: maybe the better question is "how do I get more skills"?
[22:13] <Loder> xmnt: I'm just not quite sure of which distribution to install first. I'm also not sure how large each partition for the linux's should be (/, /home, /boot)
[22:14] <kubanc> does anybody have a clue, why i cannot install vlc 1.0.0. I addes the ppa and signing key, but update doesn't update my vlc. it's still 0.9.9.a. i also enabled multiverse
[22:14] <longtime> I believe time and interest have a good amount to do with that
[22:14] <seidos> how do I get more skill in Ubuntu?
[22:14] <ldleworker_> seidos: did you have an idea how to ensure its not the hardware?
[22:14] <mneptok> kubanc: sudo apt-get update
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Loder: Virtual machine of a Linux distro to get a feel for it oh ok, but  for a more real experience you need to put it on your hard disk
[22:14] <seidos> listen to lstarnes?
[22:14] <JNSamuel> seidos: aptitude --help?
[22:14] <JNSamuel> heh jk
[22:14] <xcdfgkjhgcv> seidos: man man
[22:14] <seidos> my brain is a hardware problem :D
[22:14] <lstarnes> seidos: I know little about hardware
[22:14] <kubanc> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't work
[22:14] <Sercan> hi
[22:14] <xmnt> Loder, I would install windows first .. just use gparted from the livecd to create 3 paritions for about how big you think each will be
[22:14] <seidos> xcdfgkjhgcv: never thought of that
[22:14] <gsp2009> is there a way to stop the shutdown process? I have sent the shutdown, and tovid is running... ugh.
[22:14] <lstarnes> kubanc: what about sudo apt-get install vlc=1.0.0?
[22:14] <xcdfgkjhgcv> seidos: The only command you'll ever need to know is "man man"
[22:14] <seidos> lstarnes: I know little about everything
[22:14] <Vik> hey ldleworker_
[22:15] <ldleworker_> Vik: yeah?
[22:15] <saji> @kubanc, how did you sign the PPA?
[22:15] <Loder> Windows is already on my pc, and the space is already freed for the linux distro's. So, ubuntu or fedora next?
[22:15] <cornet> Vik: are you a bot ?
[22:15] <kubanc> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 7613768D
[22:15] <xcdfgkjhgcv> ikonia: man man will allow you to figure any problem out.
[22:15] <kubanc> sudo apt-get install vlc=1.0.0 doesn't work
[22:15] <saji> @kubanc, so that's ok. And about adding the PPA to the sourcelist. How?
[22:15] <erUSUL> saji: the ppa owner sings the packages
[22:16] <Vik> ldleworker_, nopes I aint, do you knw how to install cornet?
[22:16] <JNSamuel> fedora, yuk. why would you even contemplate on installing that dung
[22:16] <saji> erUSUL, sorry for that.
[22:16] <xxxm> hi everyone...
[22:16] <seidos> xcdfgkjhgcv: I read it, I don't feel more skillful...but maybe
[22:16] <ldleworker_> Vik: what?
[22:16] <kubanc> i added to /etc/apt/sources this: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu hardy main
[22:16] <kubanc> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu hardy main
[22:16] <Okin> salut les gens
[22:16] <cornet> Vik: huh ?
[22:16] <Vik> ldleworker_, Oooops! Sorry.. How to install vmware?
[22:16] <Loder> xmnt: I already have vista, so should I install ubuntu next, or fedora?
[22:16] <kubanc> i did what it says here: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[22:16] <shruggar> can anyone recommend a solution for live encryption of my home directory? (have a netbook, the goal is to protect passwords and work files which may be in the home directory if it's stolen)
[22:16] <Vik> ldleworker_, Oooops! Sorry.. How to install vmware on ubuntu I mean?
[22:16] <diavolo77> ciao
[22:17] <ldleworker_> seidos: heh out of ideas?
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Vik: Virtualbox is usually recommended instead
[22:17] <saji> erUSUL, we are accesing the PPA via a public key. Now its correct?
[22:17] <diavolo77> italiano?
[22:17] <seidos> ldleworker_: I thought you could throw a livecd in, if you have a livecd to test
[22:17] <xmnt> Loder, either one - it's not really important since you windows is the only 1 that will screw up grub
[22:17] <lstarnes> kubanc: what about just sudo apt-get install vlc?
[22:17] <ldleworker_> seidos: I'll try that
[22:17] <sebsebseb> !it |  diavolo77
[22:17] <lstarnes> !it | diavolo77
[22:17] <seidos> ldleworker_: I have ideas, just not fast enough at typing, or thinking perhaps
[22:17] <Vik> sebastien_, Thanks
[22:17] <seidos> ldleworker_: really?
[22:17] <diavolo77> :) grazie
[22:17] <kubanc> vlc is already the newest version.
[22:17] <kubanc> i'm confused :S
[22:17] <ldleworker_> seidos: sure I'll try to get a live CD on there
[22:17] <erUSUL> saji: no we verify the dled package against the public key
[22:17] <lstarnes> kubanc: check apt-cache policy vlc
[22:18] <Loder> xmnt: Well I already had ubuntu and windows dual-booting with grub, and when I tried to install fedora I got an error every time. That's why I started from scratch with windows only. Is there something special that you have to do to add fedora to vista and ubuntu?
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Vik: and if you want USB support get it from them rather than the repo,  and then the USB support probably needs setting up also in 9.04 anyway
[22:18] <Vik> sebsebseb, i accidentally thanked sebastien_ and made a mistake by calling
[22:18] <seidos> ldleworker_: on your system?
[22:18] <kubanc>  Installed: 0.9.9a-1~ppa1~hardy2
[22:18] <kubanc>   Candidate: 0.9.9a-1~ppa1~hardy2
[22:18] <seidos> ldleworker_: is the system in front of you?
[22:18] <Q|> !resolution
[22:18] <ldleworker_> seidos: seidos yes
[22:18] <stinky> can anyone suggest a nice text editor with syntax highlighting , in windows I use notepad++ for HTML CSS and java script.  TIA :)
[22:18] <saji> erUSUl, ok thanks..
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Vik: that happens a lot,   they do the wrong one when it comes to me
[22:18] <Veinor> stinky: gedit
[22:18] <xmnt> Loder, nope ... just 3 different partitions ... maybe your fedora disk has an error ... you can install as many distros as you want on the same hd
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Vik: this sebastien_ I  don't remember seeing chatting in here even
[22:19] <jedc> stinky, gedit, or emacs if you want to learn esoteric key combos :p
[22:19] <JNSamuel> so, if i upgraded my distribution release via the update manager. is it blatantly obvious that i'll have to backup if it is risky?
[22:19] <kubanc> here is all what it prints http://paste.ubuntu.com/272358/
[22:19] <lstarnes> JNSamuel: it's never a bad idea to keep backups
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Vik: loads of people in the channal who never type anything in to it
[22:19] <EvaLuaTe> !find cursor editor
[22:19] <lstarnes> kubanc: it sees 0.9.9 in the ppa
[22:19] <Loder> xmnt: So You think that if I just install ubuntu and fedora in the free space with each their own automatic configurations, it should work?
[22:19] <xmnt> JNSamuel, that's why I keep my /home elsewhere
[22:19] <stinky> ok thanks Veinor , I am in xfce , xubuntu mousepad just is not cutting it
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Vik:  or so it seems
[22:20] <JNSamuel> true, but i have gigs of stuff in my home directory with alot of software
[22:20] <EvaLuaTe> !find cursor
[22:20] <cornet> JNSamuel: do you have somewhere to back it up to ?
[22:20] <xmnt> yes, you will need a parition for each distro
[22:20] <kubanc> but i added the ppa like it says in the homepage for vlc player: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[22:20] <xmnt> Loder, ^^
[22:21] <JNSamuel> i have a couple of externals, yes.
[22:21] <Loder> xmnt: so I have to set up the partitions first? But linux use several partitions, don't they? Like /, /home, /boot, swap?
[22:21] <xmnt> JNSamuel, that the exact reason why i do it
[22:21] <JNSamuel> transfer speed never reaches over 12mb/s though, so it would be pretty slow
[22:21] <erUSUL> kubanc: i can tell that the ppa works for jaunty.
[22:21] <lstarnes> kubanc: try sudo aptitude install vlc=1.0.1-1~ppa3~hardy
[22:21] <mneptok> kubanc: pastebin your sources.list
[22:21] <cornet> JNSamuel: can't you leave it overnight ?
[22:21] <movela1> kubanc: i have vlc 1.0.1
[22:21] <movela1> i installed it thru ubuntu tweak
[22:22] <movela1> just a simple click and update
[22:22] <mneptok> kubanc: i bet you added the line "ppa:c-korn/vlc"
[22:22] <xmnt> Loder, no - thats the file structure ... just use gparted and manually create 3 paritions, 1 for each distro
[22:22] <saji> @movelal how did you do it. Tha tweaking?\
[22:22] <cornet> JNSamuel: but it this way there are 2 types of people 1) those that backup, 2) those that have never had a hard drive failure ;)
[22:22] <Q|> ActionParsnip: It let's me only use a maximum of 1600x1200, even though I told it per xorg.conf to use only one mode, 1920x1440@85. Any ideas why it's ignoring this?
[22:22] <saji> movela, how did you do the tweaking?
[22:23] <JNSamuel> im one of those that has never had a hard drive failure
[22:23] <Loder> So all I have to do is go create an ext3 partition for each linux distribution? And ubuntu and fedora will set up the other logical drives automatically? Do I have to leave some space for that, or will it use the space that I create inside the ext3 partition?
[22:23] <movela> saji: i used ubuntu-tweak http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:23] <JNSamuel> but it's the dodgey upgrade button in the update manager that scares me, if it doesn't work. why is it there?
[22:23] <xmnt> JNSamuel, this is how I keep things ... special apps installed in /opt  ... /home dir contains config and app data and is stored on a different parition and backed up to a seperate hd
[22:23] <matt2154> ikonia: Gar, I have no idea.  I guess I'll just perpetually log in under gnome failsafe mode.  Failsafe seems to work everytime.  Non fail safe via NFS, gives me a mouse pointer, and but never displays the top or bottom menu bars
[22:24] <saji> movela, thanks.let e check that/
[22:24] <movela> you can clean up the system, install apps, enable repos, and all sort of sweet stuff
[22:24] <kubanc> sudo aptitude install vlc=1.0.1-1~ppa3~hardy doesn't work, unable to find version,  sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272364/
[22:24] <InvisibleMan> I installed Xubuntu using the Jaunty Ubuntu network boot.  It installed without any problems, however it won't boot.  The first time I tried, it lagged for 10 minutes at 15%, then again at 75%, and finally stopped completely after going to a black screen where it mentioned a lot of segmentation faults and a few other errors.  Any ideas on how I could fix this?
[22:24] <Loder> xmnt: So all I have to do is go create an ext3 partition for each linux distribution? And ubuntu and fedora will set up the other logical drives automatically? Do I have to leave some space for that, or will it use the space that I create inside the ext3 partition?
[22:25] <cornet> JNSamuel: well i can't remember the last time an ubuntu upgrade went completely wrong
[22:25] <JNSamuel> i suppose i'll give it a try, love a bit of torture
[22:25] <movela> saji:  its a life saver for me.. enable delelopmental, testing, stable repos. on most popular apps. picasa google skype etc
[22:26] <xmnt> Loder, create a partition for both ubuntu and fedora ... installation for each distro will take care of the rest
[22:26] <JNSamuel> cornet: that's good, puts my mind at rest a little
[22:26] <cornet> JNSamuel: worst i think i've had with ubuntu is gfx driver flail
[22:26] <matt2154> ikonia: the only semi interesting thing I found in the gdm logs was:  "[config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection "1.360" is not allowed to own the service "org.x.config.display20" due to security policies in the configuration file)  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log".  But I think that only happens when I do a switch user (spin up a second X)
[22:26] <cornet> JNSamuel: and it's been a long time since i've not been able to rescue a linux install ;)
[22:26] <saji> movela, actually what is ubuntu tweak?
[22:26] <Loder> xmnt: Alright. Maybe it'll work better if I install fedora first. Ubuntu seems to have more options and seems to be more dynamic during installation. Thank you very much for your help
[22:27] <saji> movela, is it the future replacementt for Synaptic?
[22:27] <JNSamuel> here goes, i'll watch the rest of black hawk down first heh
[22:27] <JNSamuel> :>
[22:27] <cornet> JNSamuel: gl :)
[22:27] <xmnt> Loder, n/p
[22:28] <andyL> hello
[22:28] <ikonia> matt2154: that doesn't seem to be anything of value
[22:29] <saji> andyL, hello.
[22:29] <saji> andyL, are you there in lenovo forums?
[22:30] <andyL> i want to install ubuntu 64 bit on my system and was wondering if the issue is still occuring with ati radeon cards where video play back flickers while compiz is enabled
[22:30] <sebsebseb> andyL: I think so
[22:30] <andyL> :(
[22:30] <sebsebseb> andyL: yeah there are still ATI issues  in 9.04, but the video flickering when compiz is enabled??
[22:31] <matt2154> ikonia: I wonder if it has something to do with the proprietary nvidia driver.  I was getting odd renderings on my new users, before I changed the "Visual Effects" to "None".  Thing is, with my nfs users I already have VE turned to "none" :/
[22:31] <ikonia> matt2154: , no, I'm pretty confident it's your nfs home directory
[22:31] <ldleworker_> seidos bro : omg the live cd works!
[22:31] <ldleworker_> seidos bro : wtf?!?!?!?!
[22:31] <bro> ldleworker_, livecd always works
[22:31] <ikonia> ldleworker_: we know what wtf means and don't need to see it please
[22:32] <andyL> sebsebseb: i had that problem when i tried ubuntu during the version 8 and was told it was due to some issue with dri
[22:32] <sebsebseb> seidos: bro   see above at what  andyL   that could  be part of the problem,   since  Ubuntu 9.04 has some of the compiz  effects enabled by default
[22:32] <bro> ldleworker_, live cd runs on itself,
[22:32] <Zappo> Hi i have a problem with my Mic. it doesnt seen to want to work. does anyone know how to get it to work?
[22:32] <sebsebseb> at what andyL put
[22:32] <ldleworker_> bro : meaning the hardware wasn't burnt out
[22:32] <matt2154> ikonia: it certainly seems to be the common thread.  I've had NFS home dirs working for 10 years without a hiccup though, and I just did a full backup of this machine over NFS...  Everything is most definetely writable...
[22:32] <andyL> i hear video playback with nvidia is flawless
[22:32] <ldleworker_> bro seidos : So is there anything I can do from the LiveCD to "repair" my current installation or is the only option a format and reinstall?
[22:33] <seidos> ldleworker_: I'm tempted to say reinstall, but I don't know how to guide you through and install that doesn't involve repartitioning
[22:33] <sebsebseb> andyL: yes  Nivida is great that's what I have :)
[22:33] <ikonia> matt2154: I've had 25 machines working stable and 1 machine not stable in the past so no matter how good your config is, one client can be a problem
[22:33] <bro> ldleworker_, no, that graphical x error is specific, never related to hardware crashes
[22:33] <ikonia> matt2154: I feel you're pain
[22:33] <seidos> ldleworker_: I haven't done a live cd install since hardy heron
[22:33] <BlackFate> andyL, especially if you enable vdpau
[22:33] <ikonia> matt2154: maybe worth dropping back to non-x and logging in/out a lot seeing if you get any errors?
[22:33] <ldleworker_> seidos: I mean is there anyway to install "over" my current installation
[22:33] <andyL> ok i guess i'll stick with ubuntu in a VM
[22:33] <saji> Bye... everybody.. Good nght..
[22:33] <sebsebseb> andyL: hmm
[22:33] <sebsebseb> andyL: you had issues with 8.04 even?
[22:34] <andyL> yes
[22:34] <seidos> ldleworker_: do you have data on your system?  like documents/photos etc that need to be backed up?
[22:34] <ldleworker_> seidos: nah not really - all my code is in a repo
[22:34] <matt2154> ikonia: thanks, I do appreciate the effort (and the sympathy ;)
[22:34] <sebsebseb> andyL: I guess you should buy a Nivida card and start using that :)
[22:34] <seidos> ldleworker_: hahaha
[22:34] <sebsebseb> andyL: nothing to recant though
[22:34] <bro> ldleworker_, i don't see what you could do from live cd if you don't know what's the problem. i once used the live cd but i knew how to edit a file to repair my problem
[22:34] <jedc> ldleworker_, if you do reinstall, you might consider having your /home directory be a different partition than / , that way in the future you can reinstall over it and keep the same /home directory (settings and user data)
[22:35] <turbopirat> Hai, how can I print to a printer shared through a windows computer, using samba?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !cups |  turbopirat
[22:35] <ldleworker_> Perhaps Ubuntu should think about a "System Restore" option or something?
[22:35]  * jimmy51_ votes that aethelrick is the most helpful person in the world today
[22:36] <aethelrick> jimmy51_: thanks :)
[22:36] <sebsebseb> jimmy51_: you can use  !cookie |  aethelrick
[22:36] <andyL> i might get the 9600gt
[22:36] <turbopirat> thanks, sebsebseb!
[22:36] <sebsebseb> turbopirat: np
[22:36] <bro> andyL, ATI drivers are bugy in 9.04 and 8.10 and even 8.04 i might say, intel and nvidia work well
[22:36] <jimmy51_> !cookie | aethelrick
[22:36] <jimmy51_> !cookie^2 | aethelrick
[22:36]  * aethelrick nom nom nom
[22:37] <sebsebseb> bro andyL  well  certain Intel graphic cards get issues with 9.04
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !intel |  bro andyL
[22:37] <andyL> nvidia seems to be the go to card for *nix Operating systems
[22:38] <bro> i'm just saying, ATI is the worst of those 3 as it seems
[22:38] <BlackFate> andyL, nahh
[22:38] <sebsebseb> andyL: Yep Nivida has  rather good Linux support,  their driver is closed source though, but ah well I guess in this case,   altough  the more opensource/freesoftware that people are using on their computer the better really
[22:39] <BlackFate> andyL, i prefer carnds with lower quality but with 100% working opensource drivers
[22:39] <ikonia> matt2154: long shot, but anything in the auth log ?
[22:39] <BlackFate> andyL, nvidia's drivers are not opensource
[22:39] <seidos> ldleworker_: do you use irssi?
[22:39] <ldleworker_> seidos: Sometimes - using xchat right now
[22:39] <P_Kable> I need a command to change file extension on multiple files from *.nzp to *.bzp
[22:40] <hepmemassa> hi
[22:40] <P_Kable> any idea ?
[22:40] <aethelrick> BlackFate: I prefer an open source driver when I can get one... but nvidia are the most pain free when it comes to 3D on linux
[22:40] <andyL> i currently have a radeon 4870 card in my system
[22:40] <hepmemassa> i'm in some major need of help dealing with Jaunty Jackalope and flashplayer 10 on theberrics.com
[22:40] <P_Kable> andyL: switch to nvidia
[22:40] <protos_> hi, I have problems with my xserver. Anyone can help me?
[22:41] <gsp2009> protos_, what exactly is the prob?
[22:41] <andyL> oh well
[22:41] <hepmemassa> hi, i have problems with flashplayer 10, anyone can help ,e?
[22:41] <erUSUL> !info mmv | P_Kable
[22:41] <BlackFate> aethelrick, true
[22:41] <P_Kable> mmv ?
[22:42] <protos_> well I run Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit and when I start it up, I get an error stating "Could not start the X server (your graphical environment) due to some internal error."
[22:42] <hepmemassa> anyone? flashplayer 10 installed, tried HUNDREDS of different options, still can't play videos on theberrics.com
[22:42] <Q|> !kde-guidance
[22:42] <erUSUL> protos_: boot into recovery mode and chhose the repair X option
[22:42] <Q|> !guidance
[22:43] <IdleOne> !info kde-guidance
[22:43] <hepmemassa> anyone like the berrics?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> protos_: Did you install a graphics card driver?
[22:43] <jedc> P_Kable, it looks like rename can do it as well, but I dont know perl regular expressions
[22:44] <hepmemassa> Flashplayer 10... ANYONE?
[22:44] <gsp2009> protos_, have you tried to reconfigure x?
[22:44] <ldleworker_>  /kick hepmemassa
[22:44] <protos_> erUSUL, you mean xfix?
[22:44] <hepmemassa> why? i just need help with my flashplayer 10
[22:44] <erUSUL> protos_: yes
[22:45] <IdleOne> hepmemassa: the video's play fine for me
[22:45] <Lysi> Hi, does anyone know howto login with openid from launchpad to ubuntuforums.org?
[22:45] <hepmemassa> idleone: on theberrics.com?
[22:45] <IdleOne> ldleworker_: please don't ask for people to be kicked if they havent done anything wrong
[22:45] <IdleOne> hepmemassa: yes
[22:45] <IdleOne> !flash | hepmemassa
[22:46] <ubuntuu> !list
[22:46] <ldleworker_> IdleOne: it was actually a misclick
[22:46] <hepmemassa> idleone: i have installed the flashplugin-nonfree and all kinds of stuff, cannot get the videos to play
[22:46] <protos_> erUSUL, it just goes to a black screen to which it pauses for like 2 seconds, then displays "cp: cannot create regular file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090916...': Read-only file system" and then it goes back to Recovery Menu. How do I enable write?
[22:47] <IdleOne> hepmemassa: not sure why but they play fine here
[22:47] <hepmemassa> idleone: i either get a plain white background where the videos are, or i get an error "the video is unavailable at this time" been getting this error for weeks
[22:47] <jedc> P_Kable, try: "rename -v 's/\.nzp$/\.bzp/' *.nzp" i got it from http://www.go2linux.org/rename-bulk-files-with-linux-console-command
[22:47] <erUSUL> protos_: your fileystem is busted. try to fsck it from a livecd (with gparted or manually)
[22:47] <P_Kable> jedc: prename 's/nzp$/bzp/' *.nzp worked just thnx anyway
[22:48] <jedc> P_Kable, oh cool then
[22:48]  * ldleworker_ thinks a neat T-Shirt would be something like "oh fsck me" with a small graphic of a HDD with smoke comming out.
[22:49]  * erUSUL nods
[22:49] <koko> ?
[22:49] <ldleworker_> ?
[22:49] <protos_> erUSUL, how would I fsck it from a LiveCD?
[22:49]  * jMyles agrees with ldleworker_.  Acat (hot Ubuntu user with whom I happen to be in love) and I will both wear it.  :-)
[22:50] <protos_> I don't see gparted
[22:50] <xmnt> hotwire - you gotta be kidding
[22:50] <erUSUL> protos_: with gparted or manually ie calling e2fsck from command line
[22:50] <erUSUL> protos_: you can install it
[22:52] <Veinor> How's the wireless support for a dell 1510 card?
[22:53] <erUSUL> Veinor: can you specify what card does that laptop has ? (chip)
[22:53] <Veinor> that's the card
[22:53] <mneptok> Veinor: who makes the chipset?
[22:53] <mneptok> Veinor: (Dell does not)
[22:53] <Veinor> looks like broadcom
[22:53] <erUSUL> Veinor: do you have it installed on you machine right now ?
[22:53] <mneptok> 43xx series?
[22:54] <xmnt> Veinor, my mom has the same chipset ... works fine after restricted drivers get installed
[22:54] <Wicked> is there a place that lists what will be new in the next release of ubuntu?
[22:54] <Veinor> erUSUL: no, I ask because I'm thinking of swapping in the current wireless card in my 1005ha for one of those
[22:54] <protos_> my Dell 1520 worked without any problems on Ubuntu 9.04
[22:54] <xmnt> Wicked, #ubuntu+1
[22:55] <Veinor> hm, dell is not making it easy to find the chipset
[22:55] <Veinor> but yeah
[22:55] <Veinor> I'm just having issues with intermittent signal problems on my current card
[22:56] <Veinor> (AR9285)
[22:57] <BlakHat_> hi guyz, im tryna recompile "linux-restricted-drivers" and just need to find out what an abi_version is and how i can find it for my kernel. does anyone know?
[22:57] <Veinor> eh, they're fairly intermittent
[22:57] <xmnt> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:57] <monostone> I might be having trouble with my linux software RAID. My box wasn't booting (it was hanging just before grub), so a quick look through logs gave me this output: http://pastebin.com/d2e55867e (I've added relevant ouput from mdadm as well)?
[22:57] <Veinor> yeah, BCM43xx is pretty good in terms of linux support right?
[22:58] <xmnt> it's better than most
[22:58] <ikonia> BlakHat_: the restricted extras are normally closed source
[22:58] <erUSUL> Veinor: you have to install b43-fwcutter
[22:58] <Veinor> erUSUL: there aren't restricteds?
[22:58] <erUSUL> Veinor: while connected to internet (so it can grab the firmware) so you need a wired connection for a few minutes
[22:58] <mgv1> hello, can you tell me how can i secure cds when burning them? anything for that?
[22:58] <erUSUL> Veinor: no afaik
[22:59] <mgv1> what is the difference between cdrom and cdrom1?
[22:59] <^Einstein> mgv1: encrypt them?
[22:59] <xmnt> Veinor, i have atheros on mine and I love it - some will say different
[22:59] <BlakHat_> ikonia theres a tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomRestrictedModules which im following to compile them
[22:59] <Veinor> xmnt: It's been fairly good to me so far
 how?
[22:59] <Veinor> I just have intermittent signal issues.
[22:59] <^Einstein> In the past week I've had two instances of some daemon crashing (I suspect) after which my ssh key passphrases and such are not automatically found for me. /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login is still running. Logging in again does not solve the problem; I am forced to reboot, after which it works fine. The problem has recurred. Any suggestions?
[22:59] <monostone> I can't even be sure if the problem actually lies in the RAID, because despite the error message, all output from mdadm seems correct
[22:59] <^Einstein> mgv1: encrypt your files before burning them,
[23:00] <xmnt> ^Einstein, strace is a good start
 how to to that?
[23:00] <^Einstein> mgv1: zip will provide basic encryption if you specify a password.
[23:00] <Veinor> I might get one anyway, try them both and see what's better.
 how to zip encrypt?
 there is anything easier and better?
[23:01] <erUSUL> mgv1: if you want to encryot file before burning them use "gpg -c" is far stronger that what zip provides
[23:01] <federica> #spelljammer
[23:01] <xmnt> mgv1, right click on file >> encrypt
 with a password or with a key?
 what is gpg -c? is it a command?
[23:02] <InvisibleMan> I installed Xubuntu using the Jaunty Ubuntu network boot.  It installed without any problems, however it won't boot.  The first time I tried, it lagged for 10 minutes at 15%, then again at 75%, and finally stopped completely after going to a black screen where it mentioned a lot of segmentation faults and a few other errors.  When I boot the machine, it eventually gets to a black screen with a bunch of loading text.  It gets
[23:03] <shruggar> can anyone recommend an ecrypting filesystem? I would like my computer to boot normally, but for my home directory to be encrypted so that if you don't log in, you can't access the files (things like email passwords and work-related stuff)
[23:03] <ahujasaurabh> hi
[23:03] <xmnt> shruggar, truecrypt
[23:03] <erUSUL> mgv1: yes is a command
[23:04] <shruggar> xmnt, doesn't truecrypt not qualify for the "boot normally" part? I thought it required a password before the system would boot at all?
[23:04] <n8tuser> shruggar-> there is the encfs   to encrypt only specific directory if you wish, off course it apples to your home dir too
[23:04] <xmnt> shruggar, what would be the point of encrypting it then?
[23:04] <ahujasaurabh> do anybody have tutorial for gimp small and fast learning
 so i will try right click and create keys, there is a way to use just passwords? what if i've moltiply number of files?
[23:05] <ahujasaurabh> i need to make a design on gimp within 2 days
[23:05] <shruggar> xmnt: I want the home directory to be encrypted, not the entire system, is my point
[23:06] <shruggar> n8tuser, I was just looking at encfs, it seemed like it was just transparent per-file encryptiong, not encryption of the filesystem itself?
[23:06] <xmnt> shruggar, see this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-288919.html
[23:07] <n8tuser> shruggar-> you can encrypt an entire directory within your /home/username/  and only that subdir is encrypted
[23:07] <agus_> alguien que hable español?
[23:07] <erUSUL> !es | agus_
[23:08] <st01k> please help, i just switched switches in my local network and all computers except my server can access the internet.  the server can ping everything in the local network but can not get outside of it.
[23:08] <n8tuser> shruggar-> you may have to apt-get install encfs
[23:09] <erUSUL> st01k: what is the error of ping ? maybe is a routing problem
[23:09] <alokito> is there a way to use the karmic make of empathy in jaunty?
[23:09] <st01k> erUSUL: no error it just hangs there when i try to ping anything outside local net
[23:09] <erUSUL> st01k: :1
[23:10] <erUSUL> st01k: does it timeout ?
[23:10] <xmnt> alokito, #ubuntu+1  ... i used empathy until I got tired of using it
[23:10] <st01k> erUSUL: nope
[23:10] <st01k> erUSUL: it just sits theer and says nothing
[23:10] <alokito> xmnt: well I didn't like empathy at all but I hope karmic has modified it to make it look better
[23:11] <alokito> why else would they dump pidgin then?
[23:11] <xmnt> alokito, nope - it's still barebones
[23:11] <mgv1> how can i encrypt files with a password and not with keys?
[23:11] <mgv1> how can i swich my portable computer for left hander?
[23:11] <erUSUL> mgv1: gpg -c
[23:11] <alokito> pidgin 2.6 has video chat
[23:11] <st01k> erUSUL: when i ctrl-c it it gives me a readout of how many pings were sent and so on but none are returned
[23:11] <mycomputer> how to auto power on and off in ubuntu
 how do i do it to a lot of files?
[23:11] <xmnt> alokito, i asked the same ? a week or so ago and didn't get an answer, my guess is so that people will stop supporting pidgin and more work can be done on empathy
[23:11] <shruggar> xmnt, the thread looks useful/relevant, thanks (thanks n8tuser, too)
[23:12] <erUSUL> st01k: does it all look ok in « ifocnfig » and « route » output ?
[23:12] <erUSUL> mgv1: tar them first so you only have to do it on a file
[23:12] <mycomputer> how to autopower on and off
[23:12] <alokito> xmnt: hmm well empathy is part of gnome and pidgin is not that can be a reason
[23:12] <mycomputer> how to automatically connect to internet when it is disconnected
[23:13] <st01k> erUSUL: ifconfig looks fine... and i think route looks good.  but not positive.
[23:13] <xmnt> alokito, see here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154769&page=68
[23:13] <erUSUL> st01k: maybe the default gateaway is not good ?
[23:13] <alokito> k checking
[23:13] <jove> hello everyone, my newphew does not want to run Ubuntu on Windows Vista and he wants to remove it, how to uninstall "Ubuntu" from Vista ?
[23:13] <obiwan__> hi please an1 got broadcom?
 how do i tar them and how do i apply the command?
[23:13] <erUSUL> !wubi | mgv1
[23:13] <st01k> erUSUL: it's set to my router as are all the other pc's on the lnetwork
[23:14] <erUSUL> mgv1: select the file. right click choose create archiver. tar.gz type
[23:14] <alokito> jove: go to vista software uninstaller and remove ubuntu from there
[23:14] <jove> Hi, how to unsinstall Ubuntu from windows Vista ?
[23:14] <alokito> if u r talking about wubi
[23:14] <mycomputer> how to automatically connect to internet when it is disconnected
[23:14] <st01k> erUSUL: the other pcs have no problems... all can connect... it's just the server
[23:14] <erUSUL> st01k: then i dunno ...
[23:14] <st01k> erUSUL: lol, well that sucks ;)
[23:14] <jove> alokito, do U know where the Ubuntu SW resides ?
 thanks, and how can i apply the command to encrypt with password?
[23:15] <Ryiel> how can i make the old kernels disappear from the grub start list?
[23:15] <erUSUL> st01k: can you paste the output of « ifconfig -a» and « ip route » ?
[23:15] <Ryiel> hi btw :D
[23:15] <erUSUL> mgv1: from terminal
[23:15] <erUSUL> !cli | mgv1
[23:15] <alokito> jove: I don't use vista so i dont know where the uninstaller is
[23:15] <alokito> but i guess u can find it easily
[23:15] <st01k> erUSUL: can i pm u with it?  it'll take a sec to type it out from this computer
[23:15] <mycomputer> how to automatically connect to internet when it is disconnected
[23:15] <mycomputer> how to automatically connect to internet when it is disconnected
[23:15] <erUSUL> !paste | st01k
[23:16] <erUSUL> mycomputer: network manager does it for me
[23:16] <alokito> mycomputer: depends on your connection type
[23:16] <LjL> jove, operating systems cannot be "uninstalled"
[23:17] <mycomputer> alokito: i am using bsni broad bamd
[23:17] <alokito> LjL: he is talking about wubi I guess, cuz he said he installed it "in" vista
[23:17] <LjL> jove: you can't uninstall Ubuntu any more than you can uninstall Windows. you can overwrite it with another OS, or fiddle with the partition table so that its partition goes away.
 so i just write the command and file name? what about the location and the password?
[23:17] <LjL> alokito: i see
[23:17] <mycomputer> alokito: wired bsnl broadand
[23:18] <erUSUL> mgv1: « gpg -c path/to/file » it will ask for the password twice
[23:18] <alokito> mycomputer: google it :-)
[23:18] <^Einstein> xmnt: meh, a grep from the strace for "keyring" came up with only connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/keyring-C6ZD3j/socket.ssh"...}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[23:18] <obiwan__> please anybody has a new computer (up to 1,5 years) with broadcom wifi chipset not using wifi now?
[23:18] <^Einstein> might an important tmp file have been erased?
 thank you
[23:19] <mgv1> how can i swich my portable computer for left hander (mouse pad)?
[23:19] <erUSUL> mgv1: no problem
[23:19] <Barnabas> obi
[23:20] <alokito> xmnt: so is karmic bringing the new look as promised?
[23:20] <erUSUL> alokito: xmnt please move the telepathy conversation to offtopic. thanks
[23:21] <alokito> mgv1: gnome or kde?
[23:21] <alokito> erUSUL: telepathy where? :-/
[23:21] <alokito> im talking theme here
[23:21] <erUSUL> alokito: empathy
[23:21] <qwerkus> hello: could someone explain me how to set a static route (default one) with nm-applet ? route add command works fine, but I d like to automate the process at startup...
 gnome i think
 there is a problem
[23:22] <Irving> i have a few questions about dual booting if someone could help
[23:22] <qwerkus> Irving: go on !
 any press on the pad upon left hand change make it do like an right click
[23:22] <Irving> well i did some reseadh
[23:22] <erUSUL> qwerkus: system>Preferences>Network configuration ?
[23:23] <Irving> im trying to do XP and Ubuntu 9.04
[23:23] <akn> I cant get youtube video's to work... any suggestions??
[23:23] <alokito> mgv1: hmm I don't use gnome, but i think u'll find it in gnome-control-center
[23:23] <Irving> but ubuntu is already here
[23:23] <qwerkus> erUSUL: yes, but each time I leave the config screen, it sets my default gw pack to <IP_ADDRESS> !??
[23:23] <Barnabas> obiwan__, I used to have a lappie with broadcom - running Ubuntu 8.10
[23:23] <Irving> from what I read it is easier to just format, install XP, then ubuntu
[23:23] <Barnabas> worked fine
[23:23] <Flannel> Irving: If you don't want to do that, you can install windows, and then reinstall GRUB
[23:23] <alokito> Irving: boot from ubuntu live cd after installing xp
[23:23] <erUSUL> qwerkus: then i dunno... NM is magic for me as long as it works...
 but it's like every click on the pad is like a right click. there is a need for a better driver
[23:24] <alokito> then run sudo update grub
[23:24] <qwerkus>  Irving: nope, you can install xp, override your mbr and than hack the xp loader
[23:24] <Irving> is that very difficult alokit
[23:24] <Irving> *aloktio
[23:24] <alokito> sudo update-grub
[23:24] <Flannel> !grub | Irving
[23:24] <alokito> Irving: not at all
[23:24] <akn> Trying to get youtube video's to work on ubuntu any suggestions?/
[23:24] <alokito> I do it all the time
[23:24] <Flannel> Irving: the first link walks you through replacing GRUB
[23:24] <qwerkus> Irving: checkout the gentoo install page if your interested into the xp hack option ...
[23:24] <Irving> thats all you have to do is sudo update-grub
[23:24] <alokito> yup
[23:24] <clayg> is there a better ubuntu app for blogging than drivel?
[23:24] <Barnabas> Irving, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ is good guide
[23:25] <Irving> ok ty, alokito and barnabas
[23:25] <Barnabas> you actually only have to ask grub to rewrite the boot loader
[23:25] <qwerkus> Irving: I did it on all my machines: it saves the grub reinstall step each time you reinstall xp crap
[23:25] <Barnabas> something ms seems to think they have the patent to use
[23:25] <Irving> two more things then
[23:25] <qwerkus> Irving: takes 2min and a removable device
[23:25] <Irving> (i didnt look at guide yet)
[23:25] <alokito> Irving: if that doesn't work then sudo grub -> find /boot/grub/stage1 -> root (hd0,0) -> setup (hd0) where (hd0,0) is the ubuntu partition path
[23:26] <ChaLe> does anybody have Dialect applet for AWN
[23:26] <Irving> any steps i need to take when installing XP to ensure i don't screw up ubuntu, besides just making sure its being installed on the correct partitions?
[23:26] <BWARG> questiopn!!!
[23:26] <alokito> Irving: installing xp will replace ubuntu grub no matter what u do
[23:27] <Argos> hey
[23:27] <Argos> wsup all
[23:27] <Irving> but will my install of ubuntu still be ok
[23:27] <Irving> as long as i get the correct partition, do in need to do anything differetn
[23:27] <BWARG> where can i download the 9.10 version of ubuntu... ithink its called karmic something
[23:27] <qwerkus>  alokito: do you know who's in charge for boot process in ubuntu ? I would really like to have a win-xp-auto-hack intall. Why bother with grub on every mbr ?
[23:27] <Barnabas> Irving, the guide I sent explains how to boot load windows from grub
[23:27] <alokito> Irving: yes ubuntu partition will be unharmed if xp installer doesn't use it
[23:27] <Irving> ok
[23:27] <erUSUL> !karmic | BWARG
[23:27] <BWARG> ?
[23:28] <BWARG> is there a version i can bug test available?
[23:28] <alokito> qwerkus: hacking xp is illegal I think
[23:28] <erUSUL> BWARG: yes ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:28] <Flannel> BWARG: Yes.  It's alpha software, #ubuntu+1 can tell you all about it.
[23:28] <BWARG> thank you
[23:28] <qwerkus> alokito: you mean "tweaking" the chainloader ? You kidding ?
[23:29] <alokito> qwerkus: donno ask MS :-|
[23:29] <whiteymcq-tip> Can anyone tell me how to get my Sub-docks in Cairo-dock to appear
[23:29] <Irving> checked guide, answered a lot of my questions
[23:29] <Irving> thanks guts
[23:29] <Irving> *guys
[23:29] <xTCx> [amsg] later
[23:30] <qwerkus> alokito: unfortunately, when they see some linux kernel x.xx machine in the sender address, the mail gets strangely lost ...
[23:30] <lorenzo> hi, how do i get rhythmbox to play realaudio streaming radios? thanks
[23:30] <alokito> qwerkus: lol, and they use linux in their servers :P
[23:30] <zexy99> looking for help with sudo dpkg
[23:31] <erUSUL> !ask | zexy99
[23:31] <InvisibleMan> I installed Xubuntu using the Jaunty Ubuntu network boot.  It installed without any problems, however it won't boot.  The first time I tried, it lagged for 10 minutes at 15%, then again at 75%, and finally stopped completely after going to a black screen where it mentioned a lot of segmentation faults and a few other errors.  When I boot the machine, it eventually gets to a black screen with a bunch of loading text.  It gets
[23:32] <Thomas__> Hello
[23:32] <whiteymcq-tip> Cairo-dock users out there?
[23:32] <Argos> is there some command which will get rid of any cached programs that Ive already closed down to free up a bit more ram.
[23:32] <alokito> Argos: killall program name
[23:32] <qwerkus> Argos: top or ps aux to check out the load
[23:33] <qwerkus> Argos: and than kill by id or killall by name
[23:33] <Argos> yeah how do i flush it out then.
[23:33] <zexy99> sudo dpkg how do I run it
[23:33] <nappilyevrafter> Quick question; how can I uninstall qcmessenger?
[23:33] <qwerkus> Argos: if you kill the app, the kernel frees the memory allocated to it
[23:35] <qwerkus> nappilyevrafter: your tried 'apt-get remove <yourapp>' ?
[23:36] <erUSUL> Argos: most ram is taken up by disk cache. that ram is aviable to new programs
[23:36] <erUSUL> !ram | Argos
[23:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[23:36] <boscop> does anyone know a free alternative to FL studio that runs on linux?
[23:37] <Argos> yes ram erUSul
[23:37] <ukev> what is FL studio?
 sudo apt-get remove  qcmessenger
[23:37] <erUSUL> boscop: maybe you can tell us what Fl studio is/does
[23:37] <nappilyevrafter> oh wait; trying to get rid of the driver..  i thinkn it made the webcam stop working, not the ap
[23:37] <boscop> erUSUL, a program to make electronic music
[23:37] <nappilyevrafter> or will that take care of everything?
[23:38] <erUSUL> boscop: sequencer ? tracker ? daw ? midi ? notation ? drum machine ?
[23:38] <Seven_Six_Two> does anyone have any advice about ubuntu 64bit? I just got a new hp laptop and finished all of the bs it put me through so I can back it up and remove it. I'm very familiar with the 32 bit but I don't know if I should be aware of any possible issues with the nvidia driver or anything similar
[23:38] <nappilyevrafter> yeah no, couldnt find package qcmessenger
[23:38] <erUSUL> Seven_Six_Two: it works mostly like 32 bits
[23:38] <qwerkus>  Seven_Six_Two: which hp ? running linux depends on your hw
[23:38] <Barnabas> Seven_Six_Two, running all my machines 64 bit
[23:39] <erUSUL> Seven_Six_Two: virtually no difference
[23:39] <Barnabas> no prob
[23:39] <Barnabas> java plugin used to be an issue but not any longer
[23:39] <qwerkus> erUSUL: not so sure: I saw a great deal of performance improvement while swtiching to 64
[23:39] <boscop> erUSUL, beats, instruments, piano roll, mixers, vst
[23:39] <Seven_Six_Two> flash is ok now? It's a pavilion with amd x2/64, 3GB and an nvidia chipset
[23:40] <qwerkus> erUSUL: mostly in compiling stuff and memory management
[23:40] <erUSUL> boscop: ardour ? rosegarden
[23:40] <erUSUL> !info ardour | boscop
[23:40] <erUSUL> !ubuntu-studio | boscop
[23:41] <boscop> hm
[23:41] <erUSUL> qwerkus: i was talking about compatibility isuues
[23:41] <qwerkus> erUSUL: ok
[23:42] <monostone> is it true that mdadm --create can restore a RAID array which has one of the devices with a corrupted superblock?
[23:42] <qwerkus> Seven_Six_Two: as of me, flash is never of. Sometimes it is better, with new firefox version. Sometimes it gets worse. But it basically eats way too much cpu on all my machines...
[23:43] <Barnabas> monostone, what kind of raid?
[23:43] <erUSUL> boscop: http://ardour.org/ to see some marketing at work
[23:43] <monostone> Barnabas, linux software RAID1
[23:43] <boscop> yes I'm already looking there
[23:43] <navetz> can someone here please tell me how to fix my sound, currently only one application can use sound at one time. So if I start youtube first, i can only have sound on flash video until I restart x
[23:43] <qwerkus> Seven_Six_Two: as of the x2 poc, it is very well supported by the linux kernel, and nvidia chip also work great now
[23:44] <erUSUL> Seven_Six_Two: flasdh works ok for me athlo x2 3800+ 3 GiB
[23:44] <qwerkus> navetz: which version of ubuntu are you using ?
[23:45] <Barnabas> monostone, mirror - then yes provided the bad superblock is not due to hw failure
[23:45] <qwerkus> erUSUL: can you play 2 flahs anims at the same time ?
[23:45] <boscop> is ubuntu-studio a whole new distro, not a program?
[23:45] <navetz> qwerkus: 9.04   It worked fine before I upgraded from 8.04. I am finding other people have this issue as well
[23:45] <monostone> Barnabas, the fact is that my box stopped booting, here you can see the relevant info: http://pastebin.com/d2e55867e. Im not quite sure how to proceed
[23:46] <erUSUL> qwerkus: two youtube videos ? yes no problem (even more)
[23:46] <erUSUL> boscop: is a metapackage that installa bunch of other packages that tewk the distro
[23:46] <qwerkus> navetz: not sure here, but perhaps you can try another sound driver (swtiching from alsa to oss for an instance)
[23:46] <amagee> hey, can anyone point me to a tool i can use once-off to create a searchable index of certain files in a directory tree?
[23:46] <qwerkus> erUSUL: great ! what socket is x2 proc ?
[23:47] <erUSUL> qwerkus: am2
[23:47] <hepmemassa> OK, i got the flashplayer to at least work, but now I get this error message: "the video you are trying to watch is currently unavailable. please check back soon."
[23:47] <hepmemassa> anyone deal with this on jaunty?
[23:47] <navetz> qwerkus:   :( the alsa drivers are finially working well for me, I wish I could get it to work
[23:47] <qwerkus> erUSUL: don't have that one. Stil stuck with good ol 939 ...
[23:47] <navetz> do I need to install oss?
[23:47] <erUSUL> qwerkus: :)
[23:47] <jcp> I'm trying to install ubuntu on another computer, which has an Nvidia graphics card. The maximum resolution that I can get it to show is 800x600, despite that windows (which it dual-boots) can go up to 1024x768 no problem. What's going on
[23:47] <Barnabas> monostone, provided the other disk is OK you should be able to nuke the faulty one and let the system replicate ?
[23:47] <jcp> ?
[23:47] <Barnabas> might take a while
[23:48] <qwerkus>  navetz: no. Provided with the kernel.
[23:48] <jcp> I did a google search and found all of this stuff about changing x.org configuration files, but none of that has worked.
[23:48] <erUSUL> jcp: oinstalled the drivers via System<Administration>Hardware Drivers ?
[23:48] <hepmemassa> can anyone help me with flashplayer 10 error messages?
[23:48] <commander_> i love the new themes from ubuntu manual
[23:48] <jcp> You know, I can't remember. I'll try that.
[23:48] <monostone> Barnabas, ok, so that would be the safest approach then right?
[23:49] <qwerkus> navetz: when your right click on your sound items in the desktop bar, you can change the currently used driver
[23:49] <jrib> !anyone | hepmemassa
[23:49] <Barnabas> monostone, if you are confident your hw is ok
[23:49] <qwerkus> navetz: must be under 'otptions' or preference. Not sure because I have a german sys
[23:49] <hepmemassa> Does anyone know anything about flashplayer 10 error messages?
[23:50] <Barnabas> monostone, and the bad superblock is not bad due to dead disk
[23:50] <jrib> hepmemassa: assume the answer is yes and proceed...
[23:50] <navetz> qwerkus: hum I have the options of, alsa - pulseaudio - and esound
[23:50] <qwerkus> erUSUL: how much did you pay for an X2 proc ?
[23:50] <monostone> Barnabas, would fsck detect that?
[23:50] <Barnabas> not really fsck is running on a file system level
[23:50] <darim> I'm having trouble with virt-manager.  how can I backup a vm in ubuntu 9.04, then start it up as a clone?
[23:50] <erUSUL> qwerkus: back in the day? around 100€ do not remeber exactly
[23:51] <qwerkus>  navetz: you sure you can't switch between alsa mixer and oss mixer ?
[23:51] <hepmemassa> i am trying to view videos on theberrics.com and it keeps saying "The video you are trying to watch is unavailable. Check back soon" it has been saying this for weeks. I've tried open source flashplayers, regular flashplayers, updating... everything
[23:51] <qwerkus> erUSUL: that's quite reasonable. I might consider an upgrade after all ...
[23:51] <jrib> hepmemassa: do other sites work?
[23:51] <erUSUL> hepmemassa: that's an error msg from the site not from flashplayer
[23:51] <g_giulio> hi, some 1 can help me with an d card bus in a acer travellmate,please?thanks
[23:51] <hepmemassa> jrib: yeah, youtube works, comedycentral... everyhing
[23:51] <g_giulio> sd card...
[23:52] <qwerkus> g_giulio: cardbus of sd card ?
[23:52] <jrib> hepmemassa: it's the site, not flash.  Contact the webmaster for the site
[23:52] <qwerkus> *or
[23:52] <erUSUL> qwerkus: the only X2  aviable today cost 60 € ( 5200+)
[23:52] <Barnabas> monostone, try smartctl to query the disks internal log
[23:52] <hepmemassa> erusul: thanks, i just can't figure out why numerous other people can play the video and i can't :(
[23:52] <Barnabas> monostone, provided the disks are "smart" compatible
[23:52] <g_giulio> sd card bus
[23:52] <Barnabas> if there is a hw issue it will tell
[23:53] <monostone> Barnabas, let me check
[23:53] <qwerkus> erUSUL: poor world. Another few years, an Intel will totally own the place...
[23:54] <navetz> qwerkus: yea, is there any way to restart my sound?
[23:54] <qwerkus> g_giulio: cardbus are very tricky under linux: either your lucky and the system finds your cardbus, or your really stuck
[23:54] <Blizzerand> !sound
[23:54] <navetz> qwerkus: or alsa
[23:55] <boscop> erUSUL, I saw some videos about lmms. looks really cool
[23:55] <monostone> Barnabas, well it seems they are (based on bios info on boot) , but i don't have smartctl installed
[23:56] <erUSUL> boscop: :)
[23:57] <Barnabas> monostone, you may be able to tell in other ways, but I usually rely on smart
[23:57] <Barnabas> since it connects directly to the disk and queries the firmware
[23:57] <qwerkus> navetz: you served ! the ubottu link seems nice
[23:58] <FromTheInside> lol
[23:58] <FromTheInside> bonjour
[23:58] <monostone> Barnabas, ok, thank you
[23:58] <FromTheInside> y'a des francais ? :x
[23:58] <Barnabas> np


[00:13] <clarkthehardy910> I really can't get to the terminal on boot, its my first boot after fresh install
[00:13] <clarkthehardy910> can someone help me?
[00:14] <clarkthehardy910> GUI display settings are out of range for my old monitor
[00:35] <kristian-aalborg> so this is "interesting"... I can only use sound as SU
[02:11] <EnjoyTheSilence> I need help setting up Tor with XChat.
[03:15] <ecritejr> thank you Corey
[03:15] <Corey> ecritejr: Yay.
[03:15] <ecritejr> do i still need to email that person you told me to?
[03:16] <Corey> ecritejr: Urm... I don't recall telling you to email anyone?
[03:16] <ecritejr> yes<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:17] <Corey> ecritejr: That was for another user.
[03:17] <ecritejr> Ohhhh hahahaha
[03:17] <ecritejr> maybe you might know off the top of your head
[03:18] <ecritejr> When I log into Ubuntu regular desktop I have no taskbar or status bar
[03:19] <ecritejr> just 4 icons i created and none of the keyboard shortcuts work except for termanal
[03:19] <Corey> ecritejr: I'd ask in #ubuntu
[03:19] <Corey> ecritejr: Except you have to use a real IRC client instead of the web gateway to ask there.
[03:20] <Corey> 19:19:38 -!- Irssi: Quiet against *!*@gateway/web/freenode/* matches<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:20] <Corey> 19:19:38 -!- Irssi: There are 1 issues that might be preventing ecritejr from joining/talking in #ubuntu
[03:20] <ecritejr> okay thank you my friend.
[05:53] <clarkthehardy910> Is there a way to get the grub prompt right after a fresh wubi.exe install on an XP machine? I just installed Unity and i'm running into Out of Range error on my dated monitor, immediately after choosing Ubuntu on the boot menu.
[05:58] <bioterror> no idea about the wubi
[06:05] <clarkthehardy910> Can a dual booting 11.04 (installed from wubie.exe) and XP access safemode? I've tried what the posts suggested: shift and esc, but no avail. I just need to change Ubuntu's default refresh rates for my old monitor to display it.
[10:50] <Screw> hi all
[11:04] <coalwater> hi Screw
[11:05] <Screw> what are you doing?
[14:47] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:26] <coalwater> hello s-fox
[15:26] <s-fox> Hello coalwater .
[18:18] <s-fox> ttfn
[18:31] <davidhurwich_> hello everyone
[18:32] <Corey> Hello.
[18:32] <davidhurwich_> i have a very newbie question
[18:33] <davidhurwich_> i updated to 11.04
[18:33] <davidhurwich_> but under my networking i cant seem to find local wireless networks anymore
[18:33] <davidhurwich_> i used to be able to under 10.04
[18:34] <davidhurwich_> do i need to install a driver or something of that nature?
[18:34] <escott> davidhurwich_, possible, what kind of wireless do you have?
[18:34] <davidhurwich_> you mean the router?
[18:35] <escott> davidhurwich_,  no the card. run lspci in your terminal
[18:36] <davidhurwich_> am i looking for the the network controller?
[18:38] <davidhurwich_> or SMbus?
[18:38] <escott> davidhurwich_, yes you could also try sudo lshw -c network
[18:38] <escott> davidhurwich_, would give you a bit less to scan through
[18:39] <davidhurwich_> hold on, gtg any answer a phone call, appreciate your help
[18:52] <davidhurwich_> hi escott im back
[18:52] <davidhurwich_> it says -network unclaimed
[18:53] <davidhurwich_> network controller
[18:53] <davidhurwich_> BCM4311 80.211b/g
[18:53] <escott> davidhurwich_, so thats broadcom
[18:53] <escott> !broadcom
[18:53] <ubot2> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:54] <davidhurwich_> thanks
[18:54] <escott> davidhurwich_, follow that if those drivers are already installed check rfkill
[18:58] <davidhurwich_> how'se does one get to the system option on 11.04
[18:58] <davidhurwich_> it seems hidden unlike the old 10.04
[18:58] <escott> davidhurwich_, just go to the upper left corner and type in keywords
[18:59] <escott> davidhurwich_, the applications no longer have places you just find them by keyword which can be its purpose or part of its name or ...
[19:01] <davidhurwich_> so im under the driver section of the hardware
[19:01] <davidhurwich_> it says me driver is installed and running
[19:04] <davidhurwich_> then why cant my computer detect wireless networks? :( sad panda
[19:06] <escott> davidhurwich_, run rfkill list
[19:06] <davidhurwich_> it says Wireless Lan
[19:06] <davidhurwich_> soft blocked: no
[19:06] <davidhurwich_> hard blocked: no
[19:08] <escott> ok. and what happens when you click on the network icon in the upper right
[19:08] <davidhurwich_> there is an option for my ethernet cable
[19:09] <davidhurwich_> but it does not pick up wireless hosts like it use too under 10.04
[19:10] <escott> davidhurwich_, !paste the output of iwconfig
[19:12] <davidhurwich_> lo - no wireless extensions
[19:12] <davidhurwich_> eth0 - no wireless extensions
[19:14] <escott> davidhurwich_, it doesnt mention wlan0? thats very confusing. I would reinstall the broadcom drivers
[19:14] <escott> im not sure what happened, and im not too familiar with broadcom. you might see if someone has had the same problem on #ubuntu
[19:15] <davidhurwich_> should i remove it through the drivers menu under system > driver first?
[19:16] <escott> probably a good idea
[19:16] <davidhurwich_> thanks for your help escott
[19:16] <davidhurwich_> i appreciate it
[19:17] <escott> when you do a release upgrade you get a different kernel and maybe there is something incompatible there. reinstalling drivers is sometimes necessary
[19:17] <davidhurwich_> sounds good
[19:21] <davidhurwich_> should i reinstall the driver through the system>driver menu>
[19:21] <davidhurwich_> ?
[20:20] <tigerplug292> greetings
[20:26] <tigerplug292> I am having an issue. Running 11.04, resized the partition using gparted and booted & used my system since.
[20:26] <tigerplug292> then tried installing Windows XP on the newly created partition, the install failed but now I can't boot to windows - I get "no bootable device" or similar
[20:26] <tigerplug292> so now I'm on live 7.10 , is it possible to repair from this liveCD?
[20:27] <celthunder> tigerplug292: yeah should be
[20:27] <escott> yes follow the chroot method
[20:27] <escott> !grub | tigerplug292
[20:27] <ubot2> tigerplug292: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[20:28] <celthunder> tigerplug292: make a chroot in the livecd, then modprobe dm-mod;grub_bios-install --boot-directory=/boot --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda
[20:28] <celthunder> tigerplug292: obviously change /dev/sda to the mbr you wnat grub on
[20:29] <celthunder> tigerplug292: that's also assuming bios machine not eufi or whatever
[20:30] <celthunder> escott: i miss anything there?
[20:32] <escott> celthunder, tigerplug292 the bind mounts
[20:33] <escott> which is part of the whole chroot process
[20:33] <escott> i think thats always the most confusing to people but thats it
[20:33] <celthunder> escott: i said make a chroot
[20:33] <celthunder> mount /dev/sda<rootpartition>/ /tmp
[20:33] <escott> celthunder, why use grub_bios-install instead of grub-install
[20:34] <escott> celthunder, have we confirmed what version of grub tigerplug292 is using
[20:34] <celthunder> escott: he said 2
[20:34] <celthunder> but the livecd has legacy so he can't just grub root (hd0,0) setup(hd0,0)
[20:35] <celthunder> well he could...but he would be stuck unable to boot again
[20:35] <celthunder> mount /dev/sda<bootpartition> /tmp/boot
[20:36] <escott> celthunder, thats why he should use the chroot, that way he is using his installed systems version of grub-utils
[20:36] <celthunder> mount -t proc proc /tmp/proc
[20:36] <escott> which is grub2
[20:36] <celthunder> escott: i said use a chroot i think you missd that part...i'm typing out the chroot cmmands now
[20:36] <celthunder> mount -t sysfs sys /tmp/sys
[20:36] <celthunder> mount -o bind /dev /tmp/dev
[20:36] <celthunder> chroot /tmp /bin/bash
[20:37] <celthunder> assuming of course he has a 64 bit /64 bit or 32/32 bit livecd/install
[20:37] <celthunder> if not then it gets harder...
[20:37] <celthunder> well a 54 bit livecd on a 32 bit install would be alright
[20:37] <celthunder> cause he could juse add the librariees to the livecd as needed
[20:38] <celthunder> and that shouldn't be necessary if his processor doesn't suck
[20:38] <celthunder> tigerplug292: how's it going
[20:39]  * celthunder stops talking to himself
[20:39] <tigerplug292> celthunder: escott sorry
[20:39] <tigerplug292> celthunder: escott so I have downloaded the 11.04 ISO
[20:40] <tigerplug292> and I have a USB flash drive
[20:40] <tigerplug292> but wondering how i can make is bootable while on the LiveCD?
[20:40] <escott> tigerplug292, ok... if you want you could do that. its not strictly necessary, but maybe easier if the chroot makes you uncomfortable
[20:41] <celthunder> tigerplug292: also for your usb question dd if=<iso> of=/dev/<usbdev>
[20:41] <tigerplug292> escott: well - I'll chance anything :-D but I'm not so great on the CLI
[20:41] <celthunder> tigerplug292: don't use a partition just the device itself should work fine (aka /dev/sdb)
[20:41] <escott> tigerplug292, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[20:41] <tigerplug292> checking
[20:41] <escott> its up to you, whatever method feels most comfortable to you
[20:42] <celthunder> escott: i just typed it all out in here...
[20:42] <celthunder> or at least if he's got a normal grub install that's all he should have to do
[20:43] <tigerplug292> celthunder: escott guessing SDA5? http://pastebin.com/cLvYFy7T
[20:44] <escott> tigerplug292, yes you would chroot into sda5 and then grub-install onto /dev/sda
[20:44] <tigerplug292> escott: well it wont mount - root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/
[20:44] <tigerplug292> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[20:44] <tigerplug292>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:44] <tigerplug292>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[20:44] <tigerplug292>        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:45] <Dan1981> Hello is this the place to get beginners noobie help with ubuntu? :)
[20:45] <escott> tigerplug292, run sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[20:45] <bioterror> Dan1981, correct place
[20:45] <escott> tigerplug292, you actually dont need the sudo because you are already root
[20:45] <tigerplug292> escott: guessing thats like a chkdsk equiv?
[20:46] <escott> tigerplug292, yes
[20:46] <tigerplug292> escott: "fsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) while trying to open /dev/sda5
[20:46] <tigerplug292> "
[20:46] <escott> ahhh forgot how old that livecd was
[20:46] <escott> tigerplug292, you need a new livecd sorry
[20:47] <escott> tigerplug292, your partition is ext4 which is not supported by 7.10 livecd
[20:47] <tigerplug292> escott: well I have the iso, and a usb drive, its possible to create bootable usb from CLI?
[20:47] <tigerplug292> ah I see
[20:47] <tigerplug292> well - thanks for your help so far. I think I'll have to go try get booting from a current image
[20:47] <bioterror> tigerplug292, grab arch linux's iso
[20:47] <escott> tigerplug292, yes http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:47] <bioterror> tigerplug292, you can dd it
[20:47] <tigerplug292> escott: I have it downloaded
[20:48] <escott> tigerplug292, it has instructions on creating a bootable usb
[20:48] <tigerplug292> escott: ah sorry , let me look again
[20:49] <Dan1981> Okies.. very new ubuntu user here ( loving linux though ) i'm looking for someone to help me run my animated desktop at start? Can anybody help? i'm using 11.04 :)
[20:49] <tigerplug292> escott: nope, dont have that feature on 7.10
[20:49] <escott> tigerplug292, although that may not work for you either because the 7.10 install cd is older than the startup disk creator
[20:49] <tigerplug292> bioterror - why do you recommend that?
[20:49] <escott> tigerplug292, maybe rescue linux has a good way to create a usb stick
[20:49] <bioterror> tigerplug292, as I said, you can use dd
[20:49] <tigerplug292> bioterror: dd ?
[20:49] <escott> tigerplug292, try http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick
[20:50] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[20:50] <tigerplug292> escott: I found a cd lying around labelled Ubuntu - gonna try boot from it and hope its 10.x
[20:50] <bioterror> but I'm not taking part in this now
[20:50] <kristian-aalborg> how do I disable the output from a program run in the terminal?
[20:50] <bioterror> Dan1981, what you had in your mind?
[20:51] <tigerplug292> brb
[20:51] <kristian-aalborg> I tried foo > dev/null but that is not enough
[20:51] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, if it has -q or -quiet variable, use it
[20:51] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror, ah, yes... should have thought of that
[20:52] <Dan1981> i managed to get a programme call xwinwrap installed on my linux.. it makes a animated background.. i've managed to get the a-desk script to run at start but i cant get it to choose a video automatically,.. FYI heres a link to what i'm talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIbJ5S3PUJc
[20:53] <Dan1981> Help!! :)
[20:54] <Dan1981> I think i need to create a script but havent the foggiest how to even start with creating one ..
[20:55] <bioterror> sorry but I've not seen anything that horrible for a while :D
[20:57] <Dan1981> horrible? :(
[20:57] <kristian-aalborg> Dan1981, there's a desktop environment called enlightenment that will do that
[20:58] <escott> Dan1981, the hardest part of that is usually to get nautilus out of the way to even draw on the root desktop. have you been successful at that
[20:58] <bioterror> I bet all those butterflys will make concentrating difficult, plus that following magic cursor starts to annoy in about an hour or two
[20:59] <Dan1981> i right click on desktop and go run script and select a-desk then i manually choose what video i want.. at startup i managed to get a-desk to run at start ( i basically  browsed to the a-desk icon ) but i would love for it to automatically choose one of my videos :(#
[21:00] <kristian-aalborg> Dan1981, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPauJXNUPrI&feature=related
[21:00] <escott> Dan1981, well if you have a command that will play a video, just create a folder called "bin" in you home directory, then create a file called desktop_movie.sh
[21:00] <kristian-aalborg> also, Dan1981 - are you a "new" user?
[21:01] <escott> and in that file say #!/bin/bash and on the next line whatever the command you wnat
[21:01] <bioterror> plus they want money for that adesk
[21:01] <escott> Dan1981, finally save that file and run chmod +x ~/bin/desktop_movie.sh
[21:01] <escott> Dan1981, and add that script to your gnome-session
[21:02] <Dan1981> whoa.. well confused here at the moment.. so i got to my home folder and right click and create a folder called 'bin' first?
[21:02] <Dan1981> *go
[21:03] <escott> Dan1981, yes good practice is for all your scripts to go in that folder
[21:03] <Dan1981> Okies done.. created folder called bin
[21:03] <escott> Dan1981, then create a text file
[21:03] <bioterror> escott, why not /usr/local/bin/ ?
[21:04] <escott> bioterror, because root owns that
[21:04] <Dan1981> I sthat right click and choose create document?
[21:04] <escott> Dan1981, yes a text document
[21:05] <Dan1981> okies a black piece of paper sort of thing has appeared
[21:05] <escott> first line is called the shebang "#!/bin/bash"
[21:05] <escott> the second line is whatever command you use to get adesk to play the video you want
[21:06] <Dan1981> so i type in "#!/bin/bash"
[21:06] <escott> just the part inside the quotes not the quotes themselves
[21:06] <Dan1981> lol ok..
[21:07] <Dan1981> the sceond line i didnt use any command, i browsed the startup manager and found the a-desk script? is there a way i can type that?
[21:08] <tigerplug292> escott: I found a 9.x cd, booted from it and followed the instructions
[21:08] <escott> Dan1981, if you know the path use the full path /whatever/the/path/was/to/adesk
[21:08] <tigerplug292> but, when I boot now I just get a "grub_sh" prompt - if that makes any sense?
[21:08] <tigerplug292> escott: but Now I have usbcreator on this live image - so gonna create bootable natty
[21:09] <escott> tigerplug292, ok but if the chroot was successful then you shouldnt need to worry
[21:09] <escott> tigerplug292, did you get any errors during the chroot?
[21:09] <tigerplug292> escott: well - it accepted the commands but didn't work
[21:09] <tigerplug292> let me step through it again right now
[21:11] <tigerplug292> escott: so I've mounted fine, now running sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda5 ?
[21:12] <escott> tigerplug292, don't use --root-directory inside the chroot
[21:12] <escott> tigerplug292, a couple things are off with that
[21:12] <tigerplug292> escott: I dont get ya - can you tell me the command? s
[21:12] <escott> tigerplug292, so you have the chroot right? and can you confirm it is correct. check that ls /home shows your files and not the livecd
[21:12] <tigerplug292> so if I cd /mnt
[21:12] <tigerplug292> then ls -la
[21:13] <tigerplug292> I can see the contents of my disk
[21:13] <escott> tigerplug292, no the chroot is only valid for one terminal session, when you close the terminal it fails
[21:13] <escott> tigerplug292, so open a terminal
[21:13] <tigerplug292> okay, im not sure I understand
[21:13] <tigerplug292> okay open
[21:13] <tigerplug292> and then ?
[21:13] <escott> tigerplug292, you can skip th mount commands because those have been done
[21:13] <tigerplug292> okay
[21:13] <escott> tigerplug292, run sudo chroot /mnt
[21:14] <escott> tigerplug292, then "ls /home" and see if it shows your folder
[21:14] <tigerplug292> escott: okay - gotcha - I can see my stuff in there
[21:14] <tigerplug292> now
[21:14] <escott> tigerplug292, run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[21:14] <escott> tigerplug292, not /dev/sda5 just /dev/sda
[21:15] <tigerplug292> escott: " /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[21:15] <escott> tigerplug292, open a new terminal
[21:15] <tigerplug292> okay
[21:15] <escott> tigerplug292, in the new terminal run "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"
[21:15] <escott> tigerplug292, then go back to the other terminal and try again
[21:16] <tigerplug292> okay, waiting for it to execute
[21:16] <tigerplug292> escott: should take some time?
[21:17] <tigerplug292> for the grub-install that is?
[21:17] <tigerplug292> escott: okay - installation finished with no errors
[21:17] <tigerplug292> so thats it?
[21:17] <tigerplug292> :-)
[21:17] <escott> tigerplug292, a few seconds maybe
[21:17] <escott> tigerplug292, then try rebooting
[21:17] <tigerplug292> escott: thanks gonna try now
[21:17] <tigerplug292> brb
[21:17] <tigerplug292> I hope! :-D
[21:23] <tigerplug292> escott, that did the job - thanks so much!
[21:25] <Dan1981> Escott are you still here.. my internet went down and i had to restart! :(
[21:29] <tigerplug292> whats the best way to dual boot XP with Ubuntu installed first?
[21:29] <tigerplug292> I have 10GB of unallocated space
[21:29] <bioterror> tigerplug292, XP first, then Ubuntu
[21:29] <tigerplug292> bioterror, a MUST ?
[21:29] <tigerplug292> :-(
[21:30] <bioterror> tigerplug292, it's a suggested and less painless way
[21:30] <bioterror> as you noticed
[21:30] <escott> tigerplug292, one problem may be that your entire drive is extended
[21:30] <tigerplug292> escott, well I did use gparted to shrink the ext
[21:30] <escott> windows may not like being installed on a an extended partition
[21:30] <tigerplug292> escott, so there should be 10GB unallocated
[21:30] <tigerplug292> that I can format NTFS
[21:31] <tigerplug292> damn windows - I dont even want it - a REQUIREMENT for some software that I have to run
[21:31] <tigerplug292> I think I'll go with virtualbox
[21:31] <Dan1981> escott are you busy?
[21:32] <escott> Dan1981, go ahead
[21:33] <Dan1981> lol hello.. my internet crashed.. you was helping me with my startup script remember?
[21:34] <escott> yes did you finish the script
[21:34] <Dan1981> no sorry i'm on the second line it reads "dan/Animated Background/bin/a-desk_EN" does that seem okay?
[21:35] <escott> Dan1981, /home/dan/...
[21:35] <Dan1981> oh okay so i start with /home?
[21:35] <escott> yes
[21:36] <Dan1981> okay so thats the scond line done..
[21:36] <Dan1981> what do i need to put on the 3rd line?
[21:36] <Dan1981> i imagine get it to point to a video?
[21:37] <tigerplug292> escott, thanks btw
[21:37] <escott> Dan1981, i dont know adesk you'll have to figure that out
[21:37] <escott> tigerplug292, np
[21:38] <Dan1981> oh okay...
[21:38] <Dan1981> but it'll definetly be something to do with creating a text document thingy? ( all well confusing )
[21:39] <escott> Dan1981, you have to figure out what commands to send adesk and put in that file
[21:40] <Dan1981> oh okay.. its all getting rather complicated.. i wont bother i'll end up breaking it.. thanks for tryingto help me though
[22:04] <tenach> Is there a way to upgrade a machine from 10.04 to 11.04 without having to install 10.10?
[22:05] <tenach> I do not have the luxury to back up the home dir and other settings, otherwise I'd do a fresh install.
[22:07] <escott> tenach, not a supported way
[22:07] <tenach> escott: hm, okay.
[22:07] <tenach> What would be an effective way to back up a user's files/
[22:07] <tenach> This is a single-user laptop that I'm upgrading.
[22:08] <tenach> I thought that just tarballing the /home/user/ dir, but am not sure if that's the best.
[22:09] <escott> tenach, sure tarball or rsync to another machine
[22:09] <tenach> Ah, okay.
[22:09] <tenach> :D
[22:09] <tenach> Thank you escott
[22:09] <tenach> I've not had to do it this way before.
[22:41] <raubvogel> If you start screen and then run minicom inside screen, how to you quit minicom?
[22:43] <bioterror> ctrl+z q
[22:43] <bioterror> or what was it
[22:43] <bioterror> have not used minicom for a while
[22:45] <Unit193> raubvogel: You could just kill the window with Ctrl+a k
[22:46] <bioterror> not suggesting
[22:46] <raubvogel> Unit193, if I kill the window, would the device still being used by the usb-to-serial cable be freed?
[22:46] <Unit193> Might be best to hangup first or
[22:46] <bioterror> yes
[22:47] <bioterror> just a moment
[22:47] <Unit193> raubvogel: You should be able to change the keys (I know I can...)
[22:47] <bioterror> checking minicom
[22:47] <bioterror> I gave my all suns agaway
[22:47] <bioterror> away
[22:47] <bioterror> so I dont need terminal any more :D
[22:47] <raubvogel> Can I change keys from within screen?
[22:48] <Unit193> Start it with -s option
[22:49] <raubvogel> Unit193, as in screen -rs?
[22:49] <bioterror> hmmm
[22:49] <bioterror> ctrl-a x
[22:49] <bioterror> it will reset
[22:50] <raubvogel> ctrl-a x seems to lock the screen session and asks for a password
[22:50] <Unit193> minicom -s (sudo if you want to change the default)
[22:50] <bioterror> ha
[22:50] <bioterror> raubvogel, is there a reason why you need to run it under screen?
[22:51] <zkriesse> CTRL a k lol that's hilarious, Ak as in ak47 :P
[22:51] <raubvogel> bioterror, not really. I did not realize I could connect to the serial port using screen
[22:51] <raubvogel> so using minicom here was an uneeded step
[22:51] <bioterror> minicom is good for serial connections
[22:52] <raubvogel> But screen can do that too
[22:52] <raubvogel> so I can have one session connected to the serial device (in my case a seagate dockstar or a router) while the other sessions are doing something else
[23:09] <jimmie_> Does anyone know how I can stop my pendrives appearing in the unity bar?
[23:24] <holstein> jimmie_: this is relevant
[23:24] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/723865
[23:24] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 723865 in unity-2d "When a new storage device is inserted it should only appear in the Launcher." [Low,Confirmed]
[23:24] <holstein> AFAIK, you cant customize unity much yet, like hiding mounted volumes
[23:24] <holstein> it'll come though
[23:32] <davidhurwich__> hello everyone


[00:23] <cyberanger> Anyone else intrested in Software Defined Radio here?
[22:12] <Ubik> cyberanger: can we use it to broadcast on FM, pirate style? :)
[23:45] <cyberanger> Ubik: sure, I was thinking AC/DC on a MURS channel...