[00:02] <otyugh> arh. I've freshly installed xubuntu. i've got a "bus error" and xserver fails to boot :(
[00:02] <otyugh> what do we do in theses case ?
[00:04] <prosit> otyugh: i assume you have done apt-get update and upgrade?
[00:04] <otyugh> yes
[00:05] <otyugh> :(
[00:06] <prosit> otyugh: hmmm thats weird. is dbus running?
[00:06] <otyugh> seems
[00:07] <otyugh> ("$ pgrep dbus" -> "704")
[00:07] <otyugh> this is a fresh install, I'm confused :/
[00:07] <prosit> otyugh: when do you get the error? before or after login?
[00:08] <otyugh> Well at bootup, I got a black screen
[00:08] <otyugh> wsith ctrl+alt+number I go to tty
[00:08] <otyugh> then I get the error issuing startx
[00:09] <prosit> otyugh: well I'm stumped :/
[00:09] <k1l_> dont use startx
[00:10] <k1l_> that is supposed to bring up errors most time. better fix the issue at the lightdm in first place. like looking if the proper video driver is working
[00:11] <otyugh> I've got a lot of stuff err-ing
[00:11] <otyugh> "sample : Exception Emas 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0"
[00:14] <prosit> otyugh: try systemctl start lightdm
[00:15] <otyugh> did that, same symtoms at startx :/
[00:15] <otyugh> +p
[00:15] <k1l_> what exactly? what does dmesg tell about the errors? what about the xorg log?
[00:16] <otyugh> Erh, all this rewriting work :(
[00:17] <kinker31> Does anybody know how to boot up the Windows recovery partition using grub2?
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x25
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
[00:18] <k1l_> is the hdd ok?
[00:18] <otyugh> k1l_, well I wonder.
[00:19] <otyugh> How to check ? Fsck from another computer would do the trick ?
[00:19] <k1l_> i would test with the smartctl first
[00:21] <Jordan_U> otyugh: Definitely don't try to repair the filesystem with fsck before checking the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status. And make sure that any data on this drive that you care about is backed up *immediately*.
[00:23] <otyugh> Jordan_U, makes sense.
[00:39] <Sheraf> Hi, trying to remap some keys on my laptop
[00:39] <Sheraf> i'd like to do mod4 + pg_up to do HOME key
[00:39] <akkad> Is Precise still supported? I get a 404 on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:39] <Sheraf> i guess using xmodmap, but mod4 + pg_up doesn't have its own keycode
[00:40] <rww> akkad: Ubuntu tends to use compressed Packages files (.bz2, .gz) rather than uncompressed
[00:40] <rww> see also http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/
[00:40] <rww> also: precise/12.04 is supported until April 2017
[00:41] <HaroldJ> At UbuCon Summit. Anyone else here there?
[00:43] <k1l_> akkad: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/  is online. maybe your packagesystem is misconfigured?
[00:44] <akkad> my browser gave me the 404
[00:44] <rww> on the link k1l_ and I just posted, or the one you gave?
[00:44] <rww> because i explained why the one you gave doesn't work
[00:44] <akkad> now to un-misconfigure the default setup
[00:45] <rww> this feels like one of those times where you asked a question but are asking it because of another question that we didn't hear yet :\
[00:50] <stefzeer> Hello
[00:54] <on247> hi
[00:55] <jdyer> @akkad, a 404 is normal for that address you provided.  Try : http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/
[00:55] <HaroldJ> Hello
[00:55] <jdyer> @akkad the repo is still there.
[00:56] <on247> Anyone on server
[00:56] <on247> channel
[00:56] <on247> need some help
[00:57] <k1l_> on247: just ask
[00:57] <on247> I asked
[00:57] <on247> nobody responded on #ubuntu-server
[00:57] <jdyer> on247 : Try reposting your question here?
[00:57] <k1l_> !details
[00:57] <on247> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support). This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [18:54] <on247> So i configured my OpenVPN server [18:55] <on247> and openvpn start server [18:55] <on247> work [18:55] <on247> when i use it manually [18:55] <on247> but i can not get systemctl to start it [18:55] <on247> No vpn is running
[00:57] <sssilver> What's the point of Ubuntu in a world that already has OSX?
[00:58] <on247> Basically manual start of my vpn works
[00:58] <on247> start via service doesent
[00:58] <on247> No vpn is running
[00:58] <j__> ssilver the answer is customization
[00:58] <j__> and freedom
[00:59] <jdyer> on247 : Did you try : http://askubuntu.com/questions/177379/no-vpn-is-running-what-does-this-mean
[00:59] <sssilver> j__ I'm watching this channel and sometimes I feel sorry that so many people have nothing better to waste their precious lives on than fucking with some weird VPN/WiFi/Driver/whatever problems that a good OS is supposed to ensure don't exist
[00:59] <on247> i setup a VPN server config file of course
[00:59] <on247> openvpn start server works
[00:59] <jdyer> sssilver : And you have nothing better to do than watch people waste their time?
[01:00] <sssilver> beh
[01:00] <jdyer> sssilver : If you like Mac OS, use Mac Os.
[01:00] <on247> systemctl start openvpn does not
[01:00] <on247> nor service start openvpn
[01:00] <poolq> if yopu knew how the internet works you wouldn't be griping about all the 'people' here
[01:01] <on247> the config exists and is valid but i have to point the server to it
[01:01] <on247> any clue?
[01:01] <k1l_> lets focus again on the ubuntu support.
[01:01] <poolq> yeah this is a support channel
[01:02] <poolq> how do i set ubuntu to do all my work for me, so i get paid to sleep all day?
[01:02] <sssilver> I like systems that get out of the way and let me focus on accomplishing exciting things, I'm just genuinely trying to understand the point of using an OS that wastes so much of your time on routine maintenance. What would be a good channel to discuss that?
[01:02] <jdyer> on247 : Haven't seen that one.  I'm assuming you've not modified the init script that comes w/ the package?
[01:02] <xangua>  ! Ot | sssilver
[01:02] <k1l_> !ot | sssilver
[01:03] <jdyer> sssilver: If legit question, the answer is that you can accomplish a great many things in Ubuntu.  I've got a machine running most of the services in my house that I've not had to do _any_ maintenance on beyond standard upgrades in about four years now
[01:04] <on247> no
[01:04] <jdyer> sssilver: And I can use real, honest to goodness open source applications that let me make alterations or study how they work.  I don't have to pay to get decent apps that work quite well.  You've got some selection bias going on.  If you join a support channel, don't be surprised when folks ask for help
[01:04] <on247> but might as well just do that
[01:04] <k1l_> jdyer: put that into the offtopic channel please
[01:04] <on247> to point it to the correct .conf file
[01:05] <jdyer> k1l_ Roger roger.  Sorry; buttons pushed.
[01:05] <on247> you unknowingly gave me the answer
[01:05] <sssilver> jdyer yes lets go there
[01:06] <django_> the one thing i dont like about ubuntu is when i look at someones windows10 for example its so much nicer visually
[01:06] <poolq> there are a lot of window managers to choose from.
[01:09] <HazWard> Hello! Anyone using termite here?
[01:10] <Sander^home_> Hi. I heard something about a root vulnerability in the kernel.. Do anyone know in which kernel from which date it was fixed?
[01:10] <k1l_> Sander^home_: it is fixes on all ubuntus. just run the updates
[01:10] <rww> peruse http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ . can't be more specific without something more than "root vulnerability"
[01:10] <k1l_> Sander^home_: for more info see ubuntu.com/usn
[01:10] <bekks> Sander^home_: "a vulnerability". Can you be more precise?
[01:10] <rww> if you mean the recent one related to the keychain subsystem, it's fixed, see the recent kernel USNs for versions
[01:11] <rww> (different USNs for different packages, so scroll through and pick as appropriate)
[01:11] <Jordan_U> django_: Are you referring to applications, the Desktop Environment, or both? Have you tried KDE or Gnome Shell instead of Unity? You can test a consistent theme (apps and the rest of the environment matching for the most part) by trying Kubuntu, and Ubuntu-Gnome LiveCDs.  Just installed jackd2 on raspberry pi, but the clock isn't working properly
[01:11] <AndreeeCZ> is the package broken?
[01:12] <django_> Jordan_U, im on xubuntu
[01:12] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: Define "the clock isnt working properly" please.
[01:13] <AndreeeCZ> bekks, the sample rate clock ticks about 4-6 times slower than it should
[01:13] <Jordan_U> django_: Ubuntu Gnome, Kubntu, and standard Ubuntu will all look more "modern" than XFCE if that's what you prefer (I personally find XFCE quite pleasing, and of course modern is subjective).
[01:13] <jdyer> AndreeeCZ: The raspi doesn't have an onboard clock; you have to get yer time from inet.  I don't know for sure that that's your problem, but I know that that threw me whn I first started tinkering w/ one
[01:13] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: I'd not expect the Raspi having a RTC at all.
[01:14] <AndreeeCZ> no this is an audio sampling problem, not related to time, just properly timed callbacks
[01:15] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: audio sampling relies on a stable RTC heavily.
[01:15] <AndreeeCZ> but since it can produce and sample audio (since it outputs audio to jack or HDMI)
[01:15] <AndreeeCZ> .. or video
[01:16] <AndreeeCZ> i presume there is some mechanism of having an interrupt every N cpu cycles
[01:16] <AndreeeCZ> or something like that
[01:17] <chrome_netflix> Is anybody else having issues with Netflix after the latest Chrome update? I get error M7702-1003, which seems to be related to the Widevine plugin, but no amount of re-enabling or deleting the Chrome config will fix it
[01:21] <poolq> why am i so high energy when everyone else i talk to complains of getting tired?
[01:23] <rww> poolq: #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff like that :)
[01:23] <kiavtri> poolq: you must be related to Donald TRUMP
[01:27] <loveheartjoylove> I want to remove the sidebar on unity completely but without effecting any keyboard shortcuts for alt, and the main menu (I want it to be invisible
[01:28] <xangua> Why not just set it to auto hide?
[01:30] <loveheartjoylove> I suppose I'll try it, thanks
[01:30] <loveheartjoylove> GNOME 3 is slow isn't it
[01:31] <loveheartjoylove> or did it get faster, cause it used to be a dog
[01:31] <loveheartjoylove> when it first came out
[01:32] <kiavtri> loveheartjoylove: it depends on gpu
[01:33] <mustmodify> I'm having audio sync problems When I go into pavucontrol and change the offset, nothing happens. If I switch from 0 to +5000 shouldn't I loose 5 seconds of audio?
[01:33] <xangua> loveheartjoylove: if resource is your problem, then I'll suggest you try xubuntu or Lubuntu
[01:33] <mustmodify> DO I need to restart a service before it will take effect?
[01:33] <loveheartjoylove> nvidia 940m branded Intel something or another
[01:33] <loveheartjoylove> I have a good unit just latency is a bother to my dexterity
[01:34] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: Sounds like you are having an Nvidia Optimus system.
[01:34] <loveheartjoylove> prime?
[01:34] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: Yeah.
[01:36] <Sander^home_> k1l_: Do you know from which kernel it was fixed.
[01:38] <bekks> Sander^home_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2870-2/
[01:38] <John[Lisbeth]> I made a new user and gave them a home folder, and I want to change the file which starts from bash to a custom file
[01:38] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: "change the file ...."? What do you mean?
[01:39] <Sander^home_> bekks: thanks. I just noticed while looking myself. :-)
[01:40] <John[Lisbeth]> Well from my undertstanding the login prompt starts with /bin/bash
[01:40] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: As long as you set /bin/bash to be the login shell for your user - yes.
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> can data be recovered when not securely erased (copied over) from ssd hard drives, provided the RAM has been whipped?
[01:40] <anabain> I've just pluggeed two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[01:40] <John[Lisbeth]> I just used the adduser defaults
[01:41] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you use /bin/bash as the login shell for your user?
[01:42] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: copying over data leaves the source intact. No recovery needed, the data is still there.
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> the username in question is "mel" and when you login to mel you get bash
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> I want /<foo>
[01:42] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Look at /etc/passwd
[01:42] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you use /bin/bash as the login shell for your user?
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> evidently
[01:43] <loveheartjoylove> bekks I meant secure erasing where the actual data is overwritten several times
[01:43] <ratnot> can anyone here tell me how to get a cd/dvd disc to autorun ?
[01:43] <loveheartjoylove> not the symbolic link
[01:43] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: are you talking about source or destination?
[01:43] <bekks> ratnot: there is no such thing under linux.
[01:43] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So you want to change the prompt for your new user?
[01:44] <ratnot> ok...are you saying when I put disc in tray it want autorun?
[01:45] <John[Lisbeth]> /etc/passwd does not seem to have what I need at a glance
[01:45] <bekks> ratnot: No. I said: "there is no such thing under linux". There is no autorun facility for a cd/dvd under Linux.
[01:45] <ratnot> >>>>>bekks<<<<<<if not then how do i get a data disc such as a printer install to work on linux
[01:45] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Again:
[01:45] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Is the login shell for your user set to /bin/bash ?
[01:46] <bekks> ratnot: mount it manually, run the installer manually?
[01:46] <John[Lisbeth]> I don't know
[01:46] <ratnot> ok
[01:46] <John[Lisbeth]> How can I check?
[01:46] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: I told you how to check.
[01:46] <ratnot> bekks:<<<<can you guide me how to manually install from a disc?
[01:46] <bekks> ratnot: I told you how to do.
[01:47] <ratnot> bekks:<<<if you did please re-tell me?...im so lost
[01:47] <bekks> ratnot: mount it manually, run the installer manually?
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> in the user mel when I type echo $SHELL, I get /bin/bash
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> her shell is indeed verifiably bash
[01:48] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So your login shell is set to /bin/bash
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> yes
[01:48] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So you want to change the prompt being shown now?
[01:49] <John[Lisbeth]> no, i want her to launch a program with a custom path, not /bin/bash
[01:49] <ratnot> bekks<<< ok not sure how to manually....if at all possible can you tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[01:49] <allizom> bekks: actually there's a draft spec just for that: https://developer.gnome.org/autostart-spec/
[01:49] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: That makes no sense. /bin/bash is not a path, but your shell.
[01:49] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you want to run a specific program using another shell?
[01:49] <John[Lisbeth]> everything in unix is a file
[01:50] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: ...
[01:50] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: The main caveat is, that Linux isnt UNIX.
[01:50] <John[Lisbeth]> l8er
[01:50] <bekks> Good luck...
[02:03] <bocephus_> I'm trying to run steam and getting an error "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[02:03] <bocephus_> libc.so.6"
[02:04] <bocephus_> I have done a locate for libc.so.6
[02:04] <bocephus_> did a ./libc.so.6 but doesent work
[02:05] <bocephus_> i may have found my answer:  https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/666828126779141735/
[02:07] <jonathan_> How do I change nickname in IRSSI?
[02:08] <jonathan_> How do I change nickname in IRSSI?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> jonathan_: /nick New_nick_here
[02:09] <lel> thanks!
[02:09] <bob2021> how do i make compiz stop taking up 10% of cpu continuously?  i found a webpage about using ubuntu "2-D" but i can't find the option
[02:09] <lel> Log out
[02:09] <Art10001_> compiz is intensive depending of your configuration
[02:09] <lel> And click the ubuntu logo
[02:09] <ashan> I have a weird DNS issue with my server. Any network gurus on?
[02:10] <bob2021> lei you mean the ubuntu logo in the middle of the desktop?  I thought that was part of the background
[02:10] <bob2021> ashan:  what weird dns issue?
[02:10] <lel> No, the logo next to your username when you log out.
[02:10] <lel> Ctrl+Alt+Del
[02:11] <Guest97094> i have a quick question
[02:11] <lel> Yes Guest?
[02:11] <Guest97094> when i lock my computer, sometiems when i come back, my keybaord does not respond
[02:11] <Guest97094> and i have to restart my machine
[02:11] <lel> Laptop, or desktop?
[02:11] <Guest97094> lock my computer and turn off my monitors i mean
[02:11] <Guest97094> desktop
[02:12] <bob2021> Art10001_ how should i change my configuration?
[02:12] <lel> Possibly may be a keyboard malfunction, rather than a configuration issue?
[02:12] <Guest97094> a keyboard malfunction?>
[02:12] <Guest97094> but it works when i restart
[02:12] <ashan> bob2021: I'm running openvpn and transmission on my server. Both work fine at start. periodically... 45 mins to hours, suddenly it can no longer resolve the openvpn address and everything shuts down
[02:13] <anabain> I've just pluggeed two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[02:13] <bob2021> ashan: why do you think the culprit is the server and not the client?
[02:14] <lel> Guest, it may be a problem with the connection, try moving the keyboard to a new input.
[02:14] <Guest97094> anabain: i've had that problem, i honestly dont know how to fix it, i hiope someone in the chat can answer
[02:14] <Guest97094> lel: but why would it work upon restart?
[02:14] <lel> I mean a connection issue on the computer's input.
[02:15] <ashan> bob2021: you think the openvpn VPN service may be at fault?
[02:15] <SilverCreek> lel... funny nick. :)
[02:15] <bob2021> wait a sec - your server is the vpn *client*?
[02:15] <ashan> bob2021: service is ExpressVPN...
[02:16] <bob2021> so your server is on expressvpn, and your local machine is also on express vpn and that's how they're talking to each other?
[02:16] <ashan> bob2021: yes. my server IS the VPN client
[02:17] <poolq> Guest97094, it is a BIOS auto shutdown of the keyboard module and the usual answer is 'buy a computer that doesn't need to connect to mars and earth to work.
[02:17] <bob2021> it sounds like they're both VPN clients, no?
[02:17] <ashan> no... i have a server running at home that does... things... it also does transmission torrents via VPN
[02:17] <lel> peace out y'all
[02:17] <Guest97094> poolq: what does that mean?
[02:18] <bob2021> ashan: ah, the culprit reveals itself.  sounds like you're being throttled.
[02:18] <poolq> sorry i was being creative, it means the driver detects the power save mode, then locks out the keyboard until it is rebooted
[02:18] <Guest97094> poolq: haha no thats fine, how would I go about fixing that?
[02:18] <SilverCreek> So, I installed proprietary print drivers for my Brother printer/scanner. The print functionality works perfectly, but I am not sure how to use the scan functionality. The program "Simple Scan" fails to find the scanner, even though the scanner is directly connected via USB. Should I try another scan program?
[02:18] <ashan> bob2021: throttled by whom? any way i can determine that?
[02:19] <ashan> bob2021: considering i use google public DNS servers?
[02:19] <poolq> i don't know everything. but maybe someone else can fix it, since you know it is the power management that is wonky
[02:19] <sruli> SilverCreek: did you install "sane?"
[02:19] <bob2021> sure try changing the server's IP address on the VPN (so preexisting torrent clients don't try to access it) boot it, don't run torrent, and see what happens
[02:20] <sruli> sane & sane-utils
[02:20] <SilverCreek> sruli: I have never heard of that program. I thought the proprietary driver installer would install all of the dependencies. I'll try manually installing that.
[02:21] <russe11> I'm having a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu server 15.10 x64 machine. I get a totally black screen at startup. SSH works, I can log in and execute commands. I previously accidentally installed 14.04 LTS 32 bit and the display worked fine. What can I do?
[02:21] <ashan> bob2021: i'm not sure why throttling would make ALL DNS services fail...
[02:21] <rahuldev> How to know your laptop name and brand
[02:21] <poolq> the question to ask is, "i believe power management is automatically powering off my keyboard until it is rebooted, what logs do i check to verify and fix the problem
[02:21] <rahuldev> pls anyone tell me
[02:23] <sruli> SilverCreek: r u sure u installed driver for printer and scanner?
[02:24] <ashan> bob2021: openvpn is failing because it can't resolve the server in the config file. and when it fails, the tun0 connection hangs making ALL DNS calls fail
[02:24] <ashan> bob2021: or so i think. i shut down openvpn and i can ping inet addresses
[02:25] <Bashing-om> russe11: Graphics driver issue ? What results when booting up with the "nomodeset" boot option ? Then consider installing a proprietary graphics driver .
[02:25] <SilverCreek> sruli: I thought it said it would automatically install all software necessary for the printer AND the scanner.
[02:26] <sruli> SilverCreek: see how it goes after u installed sane and sane-utils
[02:26] <SilverCreek> sruli: Should I restart the computer?
[02:27] <sruli> SilverCreek: shouldnt need to
[02:27] <russe11> Bashing-om - I'm just using onboard graphics on an amd athalon 5350, I don't have X installed or any desktop
[02:27] <rchavik> hello, installing a new 14.04 server, but seeing 16.04 is around the corner, would it be better to use 14.04 or 15.04 to ease upgrade to 16.04?
[02:27] <SilverCreek> sruli: After installing, the terminal noted "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"
[02:28] <SilverCreek> Simple Scan still isn't working. :/
[02:28] <sruli> rchavik: LTS always better
[02:28] <Bashing-om> russe11: In that case, I too do not know .
[02:29] <rchavik> sruli, thank you
[02:29] <sruli> SilverCreek: try starting sane see if it finds it
[02:29] <russe11> Bashing-om, thanks anyway friend :)
[02:30] <bob2021> ashan: well it sounds like expressvpn is throttling you
[02:30] <ashan> bob2021: thanks for the help.
[02:31] <bob2021> how do i stop ubuntu from asking me for my password every time it wants to change my User Data?
[02:34] <SilverCreek> sruli: I'm not having any luck. :/
[02:34] <bob2021> can someone advise me on pairing my Apple bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu?  I've seen a lot of conflicting advice through google but none of it worked
[02:34] <sruli> SilverCreek: model of ur brother mfc and which file did u download to install?
[02:37] <SilverCreek> sruli: I have an MFC-L2700DW. I downloaded http://download.brother.com/welcome/dlf006893/linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1.gz
[02:37] <The_Letter_M> So I'm curious if anyone here is using Snappy for anything practical?
[02:37] <dino99> # install-docs --verbose --check /usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs
[02:37] <dino99> Warning in `/usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs', line 9: file `/usr/share/doc/python3-xapian1.3/index.html' does not exist.
[02:37] <dino99> Error in `/usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs', line 9: all `Format' sections are invalid.
[02:38] <SilverCreek> sruli: The description says "The tool will install LPR, CUPSwrapper driver and scanner driver (for scanner models)."
[02:39] <sruli> SilverCreek: is the printer working can you print?
[02:39] <SilverCreek> It prints very well.
[02:41] <SilverCreek> sruli: I'll try some other scan programs.
[02:41] <sruli> SilverCreek: the file you downloaded is 0.02MB, in the scanner section below the 64bit driver for scanner is 0.07mb try that http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=gb&lang=en&prod=mfcl2700dw_us_eu_as&os=128
[02:42] <SilverCreek> okay
[02:42] <jalt> Hi, is the recommended way to update the gcc toolchain on 14.04 using a ppa as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/466651/how-do-i-use-the-latest-gcc-4-9-on-ubuntu-14-04 or is there a better way?
[02:43] <bob2021> can someone help with my unpaired keyboard?
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[02:49] <speedy> hi
[02:50] <RNeville> Hello, tried clicking on ubottu.com/y and get blank web page ? Not sure what's going on!
[02:50] <speedy> i have a ubuntu 14.04 ec2, i am looking to to a mass commands,installs and update-what language is good for this as i here big bash scripts are bad.
[02:50] <SilverCreek> sruli: Thanks for the support. I haven't figured out the problem yet, but I'm gonna try restarting and a few other things.
[02:51] <sqpat> right now I have two instances of tomcat that I run on an application server but only one is properly configured as a service to run at boot. What's a recommended way of just running my other startup bash script at boot?
[02:51] <sruli> silvercreek: see if this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/549840/brother-mfc-l2700dw-printer-does-not-work
[02:51] <speedy> cron?? 8shug* sqpat
[02:51] <sqpat> oh can cron be configured to run on boot?
[02:52] <speedy> sqpat,  google says yes.
[02:52] <sqpat> i guess my issue is that its on a VM provider and every few months or something the server might get restarted for one reason or another and it starts up in a non-running state, so i'd just like to fix this in the future
[02:52] <sqpat> ill look into cron then
[02:53] <sqpat> i thought it only ran at some specific clock/calendar times
[02:53] <jalt> sqpat, you should use your init system first (possibly upstart or systemd)
[02:53] <jalt> you might need to be careful since you're running two instances at the same time
[02:53] <speedy> sqpat,  that is not the only solution for you. but cron is something you can look up now and you can good it easy for answers.
[02:53] <sqpat> yea, i ended up creating two directories for a lot of random things like logs, etc
[02:54] <jalt> cron is definitely not the right solution for this
[02:54] <speedy> sqpat,  is it cheaper that way ?
[02:54] <sqpat> well i did this like 2 years ago and it still runs today so its 'good enough'
[02:54] <sqpat> the reason i run two tomcats is just so i can update one at a time without application downtime
[02:54] <speedy> jalt, sqpat  i am a noob,
[02:55] <sqpat> they listen on different ports thru nginx which 'load balances'
[02:55] <speedy> how long is it for that way vs having one tomcat? -downtime?
[02:55] <sqpat> maybe a few minutes
[02:55] <sqpat> if i had one tomcat
[02:55] <sqpat> but if i accidentally broken something, it could be more
[02:55] <speedy> what is your site?
[02:56] <SilverCreek> sruli: The scan functionality works now. i just needed to restart. Thank you! :D
[02:56] <speedy> webstie?*
[02:56] <sqpat> its a web based game
[02:57] <speedy> sqpat, maybe there is a cumtom app/script that has been made already that does what you are looking for?
[02:57] <sqpat> im going to look into init.d or something as was suggested. i think thats along the lines of what i assumed was proper
[02:58] <sqpat> im actually really terrible at this system administration stuff
[02:58] <speedy> sqpat,yes, i had something wonderful help me and i remeber he use init.d and cron combo with something that does checks.
[02:59] <speedy> ^^^
[03:00] <speedy> if i was bette, I would not have so much trouble as i do now.
[03:00] <speedy> setting up a minecraft network
[03:00] <sqpat> same. im sure theres a more proper way for me to setup the two tomcats as services but i think i'd cause more downtime by trying to fix that than not.
[03:01] <kawaiola> Hey all, I'm having a problem where my wireless and Ethernet card only work if I'm plugged in direct.
[03:01] <kawaiola> Has anyone ever experienced this issue?
[03:01] <speedy> i say read and study more before you go headlong.... sqpat
[03:02] <speedy> kawaiola, did you install the lan/wlan drivers?
[03:03] <rahuldev> hi i installed flash-plugin from software center, it's working on firefox, but not in chromium. anyone pls help me
[03:12] <xangua> rahuldev: for chromium you need pepper flash
[03:13] <rahuldev> thanks xangua, is it available in repo?
[03:13] <xangua> rahuldev: yes
[03:13] <rahuldev> found it! :)
[03:13] <rahuldev> thanks so much!
[03:14] <__Mike__> hello all
[03:14] <rahuldev> hello
[03:14] <__Mike__> anyone have a sec to talk about virtual machines
[03:15] <pbx> __Mike__, just dive in and ask your question
[03:15] <__Mike__> I installed virtual box and all is good, and installed win 7, do the virtual machines stay installed?
[03:15] <__Mike__> or will I have to install win 7 everytime?
[03:16] <inteus> __Mike__: its still there unless you delete it
[03:18] <__Mike__> sweet. this rocks,
[03:18] <__Mike__> kinda slow, how can I add more memory to the virtual machine?
[03:18] <__Mike__> do I have to delete and create another
[03:18] <__Mike__> or is it slow by nature
[03:19] <Blue-Smoke> Hi I was running Ubuntu 14.04 installed to a usb stick and sudenly it is not letting me save anything  saying its  Read-only filesystem and wont even mount a usb stick so I can back up things I had put on the desck top and idea how to backup the data as I think if i restrat it will not boot again
[03:19] <inteus> __Mike__: no, just edit the settings for that vm. I don't have it in front of me, so you;ll have to look through the menus
[03:19] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[03:20] <__Mike__> coool, thanks so much :-)
[03:21] <anabain> anabain, btw, chown is root:root
[03:22] <sruli> anabain: so do sudo chown -R username:username /media/
[03:22] <bob2021> can someone help me pair my apple wireless keyboard with ubuntu?
[03:22] <inteus> anabain: I would think you;d need to change the chown to somethign other than root.root for a normal user to write to it
[03:23] <anabain> inteus, chmod 775 and chown root:users does the trick, but some gurus say this is bad practice, but they don't say why...
[03:25] <__Mike__> can I download a windows .exe file inside of linux and then install it in the VM?
[03:27] <Blue-Smoke> Can someone help ubuntu 14.04 saying Read-only file system when trying to save anything
[03:30] <Spacehound> Courious, If I want Back Track 4, how can I get it? The site only offers Kali 2.
[03:31] <cnnx> how can i make ubuntu run as fast as possible on an atom 2 core 4 thread 1 gb netbook ?
[03:31] <cnnx> i wanna use it for youtube videos to a tv output
[03:31] <cnnx> media center
[03:31] <cnnx> its slow now
[03:32] <xangua> cnnx: use Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu to begin with
[03:32] <cnnx> xangua: maybe i am using it, how can i check?
[03:33] <xangua> Lubuntu.org
[03:34] <sambagirl> there used to be a bunch of utilities that you could use to create your own custom versions. are any of them still around? i know suse had a studio but that is a different core from debian
[03:35] <speedy> yes sambagirl
[03:36] <sambagirl> i did in the past speedy but i dont see those tools around anymore.
[03:37] <speedy> there maybe some version of it around. maybe a remake with a different name- this is my guess
[03:37] <speedy> sambagirl,
[03:37] <sambagirl> ok
[03:37] <speedy> things have change since 10.04
[03:37] <speedy> aloot of things
[03:39] <speedy> sambagirl, https://www.linuxvoice.com/build-your-own-linux-distro/
[03:39] <speedy> https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-linux-distro/
[03:40] <sambagirl> thanks speedy
[03:40] <sambagirl> yes my favorite was 10.10 but i started with like 5.x something.
[03:42] <__Mike__> so if you are running word in a VM does it still save an actual real physical file?
[03:43] <Blue-Smoke> can anyone help? when trying to save anything on my other system its failing and saying Read-only filesystem
[03:44] <George> what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:44] <Blue-Smoke> 14.04
[03:45] <Blue-Smoke> I have it installed to a usb stick
[03:45] <nchambers> __Mike__, no. and neither does your OS. the file isn't physical nor real. its very much virtual
[03:46] <George> Blue-smoke: oh, I think I've ran into this problem before. Theres a method to solving this, but I forgot how I got around it.
[03:47] <DI3HARD139> pst upload it to an online storage service if its in a VM
[03:47] <George> Blue-smoke: did you use something like unetbootin to flash it to the drive?
[03:49] <Blue-Smoke> I tried plugging in a Usb stick to try to back up what I have saved and it says it cant mount it and that error also says Read-only file system
[03:50] <Blue-Smoke> maybe the usb stick with thw OS on it has gone bad and not allowingg writes ?
[03:50] <George> Blue-smoke: possibly.
[03:51] <George> Blue-smoke: I know one method I had of backing up a system thats been successful so far is using clone-zilla
[03:51] <Blue-Smoke> I just installed it from the 14.04 live cd but put it to a usb stick instead of a HDD
[03:52] <George> blue-smoke: so you installed ubuntu 14.04 to a HDD and you want to back it up onto a USB, right?
[03:53] <Blue-Smoke> no I installed it direct to the usb stick no HDD in the system at the moment
[03:56] <Blue-Smoke> how do I turn off seeing theas ppl joining and parting its filling the screen
[03:57] <George> blue-smoke:  I found a really big guide on the ubuntu website that might help. am I allowed to post URL's on here?
[03:57] <nchambers> Blue-Smoke, client dependent
[03:57] <Blue-Smoke> not sure but you can PM me direct if that works on here
[03:57] <squinty> if using hex or xhcat right click on channel button
[03:58] <Blue-Smoke> its webchat.freenode
[03:58] <DI3HARD139> I think its /msg for that. Dont quote me on it tho
[03:58] <squinty> switch to hexchat .... better
[03:58] <nchambers> most clients are /msg
[03:58] <nchambers> alternatively, /query
[03:59] <DI3HARD139>  /msg squinty <what ever the message is>
[04:00] <Blue-Smoke> thanks DI3HARD139
[04:00] <DI3HARD139> np
[04:02] <squinty> George,  yep url's ok as long as on topic
[04:03] <DI3HARD139> Why is this person messaging me about Islam...
[04:03] <DI3HARD139> Now the YT links....
[04:04] <squinty> DI3HARD139,  put the rascal on ignore.
[04:05] <DI3HARD139> Done and did
[04:05] <DI3HARD139> done*
[04:06] <George> Thanks Squinty
[04:07] <Blue-Smoke> I sent you a reoky george duno if you got it but thanks for the link
[04:08] <Blue-Smoke> reply*
[04:09] <Blue-Smoke> oh it was installed from the live dvd To the USB stick
[04:14] <HouseMD> yo
[04:14] <liquidsnake> yo
[04:15] <HouseMD> apparently theres islam spam here
[04:15] <liquidsnake> really i haven't seen any
[04:15] <liquidsnake> but i just logged on though
[04:15] <HouseMD> i dont see any either
[04:15] <HouseMD> but someone complained :P
[04:16] <HouseMD> anyway it does not matter
[04:16] <liquidsnake> ahhh
[04:16] <HouseMD> i had a question
[04:16] <liquidsnake> oh whats that
[04:16] <squinty> been reported... the idiot should be kicked soon
[04:16] <HouseMD> i saw it
 becasso100 is spamming with islamic preaching   please nuke
[04:17] <HouseMD> pretty much the current state of the world right now
[04:17] <squinty> off topic   please stay on topic
[04:17] <nicomachus> !ot
[04:18] <HouseMD> yeah yeah. so anyway my question was. is editing the rc.local file to include an init script for my website server a production friendly thing to do?
[04:18] <HouseMD> it works as expected in the short term absolutely but is it good/viable in the long run?
[04:21] <HouseMD> well so much for being on topic
[04:24] <JeffHoogland91> My cups daemon keeps refusing to start on Ubuntu 14.04. With the message: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15
[04:28] <shamis> Would someone please mind helping me create a script that uses the top command to log certain CPU load data at certain time intervals? I would be very grateful.
[04:28] <nicomachus> shamis, try #bash or ##bash
[04:29] <north> Hi. I am currently running Ubuntu 14.04.2 which runs on 3.16ish kernel. My wlan card has stable support from above 3.19ish. Is it advisable to install the mainline kernel ? Also how do I get other stable kernels meant for 14.04.3 ?
[04:29] <svetlana> shamis: the web suggest this one-liner to get the load at a moment in time: r=$(cat /proc/loadavg | awk -F. '{print $1}')
[04:30] <shamis> Alright thanks
[04:30] <xangua> north: you should the able to use the hardware enablement stack
[04:30] <Bashing-om> hwe | north
[04:31] <north> xangua: any pointers to it ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> !hwe | north
[04:31] <xangua> ! Hwe
[04:31] <TJ-> north: Sounds like you currently have the utopic (now unsuppoprted hardware enablement stack). You need to upgrade to the 14.04.3 which have the v3.19 kernel from vivid.
[04:32] <north> yep. TJ- how do I do that ?
[04:32] <north> Add vivid's repos and I am good ?
[04:32] <xangua> north: did you already read what the bot said?
[04:33] <TJ-> north: the guide links already provided should show how. You'll likely need to take care to upgrade from the -lts-utopic to -lts-vivid packages
[04:34] <north> Or just download the 14.04.3 version and install it. I have had some bad experiences with upgrading previously. TJ-
[04:34] <TJ-> north: It's package upgrades from the 14.04 repository, not a release-upgrade
[04:35] <Tachaikowsky> Can someone tell me how to check md5sums after rsync to verify that copy is completed properly?
[04:36] <north> TJ-: xangua gotcha. Thanks :)
[04:36] <sruli> TJ-: hi, you told me some time ago about compiling scripts with SHC, is it secure? if i save passwords in the script is it secure?
[04:39] <TJ-> sruli: saving passwords, unencrypted/unsalted, is insecure in any place
[04:39] <sruli> TJ-: so even if its compiled there is a way to read it?
[04:39] <TJ-> Tachaikowsky: did you use rsync's --checksum option?
[04:39] <JeffHoogland91> My cups daemon keeps refusing to start on Ubuntu 14.04. With the message: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15
[04:40] <TJ-> sruli: sure, it would be trivial if it is a string, "strings" or "hexdump" or whatever and a bit of intelligence to pick it out
[04:41] <TJ-> sruli: security by obsfucation is not security
[04:41] <Tachaikowsky> I figured out the answer. Just run it with rsync with -c; and re-run rsync again after copying. The second time, it will simply validate the checksums - thus verifying that copy has happened properly.
[04:41] <TJ-> Tachaikowsky: yep "--checksum" :)
[04:46] <bob2021> can someone help me figure out how to pair an apple bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu? there are many instructions found by google butnone of them seem to work
[04:49] <steve__> jioin #rubyonrails
[04:51] <tuxtimo> hi
[04:55] <John[Lisbeth]> My amigo is trying to install ghci which is inside the package ghc. He has ghc installed, but no ghci command
[04:56] <auctus> John[Lisbeth]: howd he install it? "sudo apt install ghc" ? thats what i did i have ghci
[05:05] <TJ-> John[Lisbeth]: I suspect /usr/bin/ghci is generally a symlink, to a versioned executable. check with "ls -l /usr/bin/ghci*"
[05:11] <sruli> TJ-: the VPN script, i think you put POS in the wrong place, you put it in vpn-up, shouldn't it be in vpn-dwon?
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: oh, good catch! I changed the sense of the operations at one point and forgot to move that
[05:17] <tidux> is there any way to upgrade curl, libcurl, OpenSSL, and curl-php5 without just doing a complete dist-upgrade?
[05:18] <sruli> TJ-: if i boot with forward drop, will the first vpn connect delete the rule?
[05:20] <xangua> tidux: compile
[05:20] <tidux> lovely
[05:21] <TJ-> sruli: the first "vpn-up" should use the "-D" operation to delete the rule, yes
[05:21] <sruli> thanks
[05:21] <TJ-> tidux: install into a chroot or container, maybe?
[05:21] <tidux> nah this has to be directly on the root filesyste
[05:22] <tidux> it's a customer's box and they're refusing to upgrade from 10.04
[05:22] <tidux> so of course everything is too old
[05:22] <TJ-> tidux: they're out of luck then; 10.04 has no support
[05:22] <tidux> I have told them that, yes
[05:22] <tidux> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[05:23] <TJ-> tidux: there's the inverse. Upgrade the system to 16.04 (in April) and then lxc/chroot a 10.04 install for the legacy stuff
[05:23] <tidux> there isn't even any magical legacy junk on this box
[05:23] <tidux> just Joomla
[05:24] <tidux> but nope, won't upgrade
[05:24] <tidux> :/
[05:24] <tidux> I think I just need to let them know this is the last hand-compiling open heart surgery I'll do on their box
[05:24] <tidux> thanks guys
[05:25] <TJ-> Sounds like a recpipe for disaster
[05:28] <sruli> TJ-: when you have a sapre minute send me the email please
[05:28] <ratiotile> I have added ppa:neovim-ppa/unstable, but when I try to install neovim, I get "Unable to locate package neovim", any ideas?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | ratiotile
[05:31] <xangua> ratiotile: sounds like you added a repository with no packages candidates for your Ubuntu release
[05:32] <ratiotile> xangua: I have 14.01, and the docs say 12.04 up are supported
[05:32] <xangua> ratiotile: there is no 14.1
[05:32] <xangua> 01
[05:33] <xangua> If you mean 14.10, it's no longer supported
[05:33] <ratiotile> yeah thats what I meant
[05:33] <ratiotile> is there any way to upgrade?
[05:33] <vprf> hello peeps
[05:35] <vprf> just spun up an AWS ubuntu image and need advice.
[05:35] <ratiotile> seriously, I'm about to go back to windows 7
[05:35] <xangua> ! Eol | ratiotile
[05:36] <ratiotile> why is 14.04 still supported? I just installed this last year
[05:36] <vprf> just wondering if there is a lightweight ui with minimal pakages and a browser?
[05:36] <xangua> ratiotile: you'll also probable need to upgrade again in a few days as 15.04 support will end too
[05:37] <xangua> 14.10>15.04>15.10
[05:39] <sruli> how can i command a ubuntu vm to poweroff after a particular reboot? i am making a script to reboot my vm after installing updates and then poweroff for a snapshot, so my script will update, reboot, poweroff, snapshot, what i don’t yet know how to do is poweroff after this reboot
[05:39] <x2xx3x> 14.04 is an LTS-version ratiotile - thats why there are still updates
[05:40] <ratiotile> well I installed the latest version at the time
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> sruli: can wake on lan help you?
[05:40] <ratiotile> and I used to have neovim v0.0.0 and now I can't even reinstall it
[05:40] <sruli> lotuspsychje: not sure how to use that for it
[05:42] <xangua> ratiotile: please read what the bot said for instructions how to upgrade or install a supported Ubuntu release
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> sruli: really depends whats your endgoal with all this
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> sruli: you want an automated system that installs updates and reboot after ?
[05:43] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i explained my endgoal, endgoal is poweroff after the reboot which comes after the update, i can do the update & the reboot, how do i do the poweroff after the reboot?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sruli: hmm maybe there's a trick in /etc/apt in those configs, auto update and shutdown somewhere
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sruli: i remember somsip recently showed me howto auto update there
[05:45] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i need a reboot before the shutdown, i need a snapshot after the update, so i want a reboot first
[05:46] <ratiotile> trying to figure out how to upgrade... I'm supposed to install the update manager, but "sudo aptitude install update-manager-core" fails with aptitude: command not found
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: xangua just explained it to you
[05:47] <ratiotile> From version 6.06 and up you will need to install the update-manager and update-manager-core packages. Note: You don't want to install the update-manager package on CLI-only servers.
[05:47] <ratiotile> sudo aptitude install update-manager-core update-manager
[05:47] <ratiotile> but it fails
[05:47] <ratiotile> taken from the bot's link
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:47] <x2xx3x> sruli, i dont get i any way... you want to run the machine into a system or not after its reboot and halt it there? or you wanna stop it before it boots into some OS? then reboot my be the wrong option. try shutdown
[05:48] <ratiotile> 14.10
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: its not recommended to upgrade from an eol...
[05:48] <x2xx3x> sry. just read it
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: would you trust your system after all exploits out?
[05:48] <ratiotile> so what, uninstall and go back to windows xp?
[05:48] <sruli> x2xx3x: i want to snapshot to be of a fully updated system hence i want a reboot and then a shutdown
[05:48] <ratiotile> at least windows works
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: no, clean install a supported ubuntu version
[05:49] <ratiotile> all right, which one would be the best
[05:49] <ratiotile> I picked the latest version last time and it was dead within a year
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: LTS would be a good choice
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: 14.04.3
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: and in april you can upgrade nicely to 16.04
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: if you choose non-lts you will need upgrade/reinstall every 9 months indeed
[05:51] <xangua> ratiotile: the Ubuntu site offers the long term release first, it also details the non LTS release will be supported just nine months
[05:51] <xiangnan> hello
[05:53] <ratiotile> is there a version that uses lightweight graphics? I want to run in a vm with 2d only
[05:53] <ratiotile> I thought there were different gui options
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: you mean xubuntu or lubuntu?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | ratiotile
[05:55] <ratiotile> yes. I'm not sure between xfce or lxde which one is better
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: lubuntu should be the lightest
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: but ive seen some systems run smoother on xubuntu...
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: test and play for your needs
[05:56] <ratiotile> ok, so that would be LXDE, right
[05:56] <ratiotile> that's what I am using now
[05:57] <aksdfafd> how can i make ubuntu ask for a password instead of logging in automatically?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> aksdfafd: the users icon
[05:59] <x2xx3x> sruli, hmm would it work to ad a file with a shutdown command wich would be created everytime when your script initializes the reboot command? And it deletes it self with and && rm "script.file" so it would not get into a conflict at normal upstart?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> aksdfafd: toggle off auto login
[05:59] <sruli> x2xx3x: good idea, will have to figure it out
[06:00] <x2xx3x> so a job have to be set up which watches our for a shutdown-file, and only execute it if exist.
[06:00] <sruli> x2xx3x: not sure how to tell that script to poweroff after next boot
[06:01] <x2xx3x> but delets itself in the same moment
[06:01] <x2xx3x> is this possible anyway??
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> sruli: maybe cron can assist you in any way?
[06:02] <mfitton> Hi! If anyone is familiar with shell scripting, I'd like to know how to use xargs in order to pipe input to a compiled C program.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> mfitton: maybe the ##programming guys?
[06:02] <mfitton> For example, I want something like "ls * | xargs -P 4 -n 1 mycompiledprogram
[06:03] <mfitton> Alright, I can try over there
[06:03] <SubCool> Hey, i just booted from mfsbsd flash drive to troubleshoot something, where can i save files to on the usb so that when i plug the usb into another computer and pull them off?
[06:09] <trar> hello, I was here for this problem earlier. for the application I am trying to install, I need a higher ruby version..is there no way to upgrade ruby?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: didnt you asked this yesterday?
[06:10] <MerchantOfVenice> oops..caught in the act :)
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !latest | MerchantOfVenice
[06:11] <MerchantOfVenice> yes, as I also mentioned..but it will be too much work to try it on 15.10.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: you will break your system if you dont use ruby version for your specific ubuntu version...
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | MerchantOfVenice or try this at your own risk...
[06:12] <MerchantOfVenice> ok. interesting. I remember having upgraded some other packages.
[06:15] <MerchantOfVenice> ok, I'll figure which way to go about it, without upgrade..and without asking once more :) thank you again lotuspsychje
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: remember the easiest way would be 15.10 or 16.04 development branch to get you higher ruby
[06:18] <MerchantOfVenice> lotuspsychje, yes, 15.10. nevertheless seems to be the one for me, thank you!
[06:21] <MerchantOfVenice> have a good day / night!
[06:24] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: you can install your own ruby version into /usr/local, but you'll have to maintain it on your own.
[06:27] <MerchantOfVenice> Seveas, it'd be needed for a framework installation. maybe it'll work cleaner if I have just one version on the system..
[06:28] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: I agree, so updating to 15.10 may be better for you. Upgrades are simple, fast and safe.
[06:29] <MerchantOfVenice> can I directly upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10.?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: not recommended
[06:29] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, nope.  14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10   OR wait until april for 16.04
[06:30] <MerchantOfVenice> oh, I think it still takes shorter to do step by step :)
[06:30] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: possible, but not supported or recommended. Higher chance of something breaking during the upgrade, requiring you to know what to do to manually fix failing package installs.
[06:30] <Dr_Manhattan> aw dude. I hope 16.04 uses a better choice of kernels than 14.04 did
[06:30] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, 14.04 to 16.04 is a direct upgrade
[06:30] <Dr_Manhattan> I had to force it up to 3.19
[06:31] <MerchantOfVenice> cfhowlett, yes, but april is a bit of long stretch :)
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Manhattan: nothing wrong with 14.04...
[06:31] <xangua> Dr_Manhattan: well 3.19 wasn't aviable when 14.04 was released...
[06:31] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, for some.  I only use LTS releases for xmas comes every 2 years for my machine.
[06:31] <Dr_Manhattan> yeah, 3.13 is just wonderful.
[06:31] <xangua> Because...you know...time and space
[06:34] <Seveas> ye cannae break the laws of physics
[06:35] <layan> wher the shop buy ubuntu phone ?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !touch | layan
[06:35] <xangua> layan: Europe
[06:35] <layan> im from srilanka
[06:36] <MerchantOfVenice> cfhowlett, I'd otherwise wait for LTS, too, but just for this install I need 15.10. now
[06:37] <MerchantOfVenice> to get a higher ruby version
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> layan: buy a nexus4 somewhere and put ubuntu touch on it, join #ubuntu-touch for details
[06:37] <layan> lotuspsychje : no any case ?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> layan: pardon?
[06:38] <layan> lotuspsychje : i mean problem ?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> layan: what problem
[06:38] <hateball> MerchantOfVenice: there's also the option of going to 16.04 while in development, but be aware of possible breakage
[06:39] <layan> lotuspsychje : i don't no, you Test Nexus4 and Ubuntu touch os dual boot
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> layan: type /join #ubuntu-touch
[06:40] <MerchantOfVenice> hateball, with 16.04. I'd rather wait till april :)
[06:41] <hateball> MerchantOfVenice: I'm just saying it's an option :)
[06:42] <MerchantOfVenice> sure, I got it :)
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: time for action now :p
[06:43] <gambl0re> how do you open a dir from inside the terminal?
[06:44] <hateball> gambl0re: What do you mean by "open" ?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: cd yourdir
[06:44] <gambl0re> nevermind got it..
[06:44] <gambl0re> nautilus .
[06:48] <karidoe> Hi, the unity app launcher bar and the topbar goe disappear right after logging in
[06:49] <karidoe> may somebody help me, please/
[06:52] <MerchantOfVenice> alright, diving in..thank you all for your help! :) have a good day / night!
[07:12] <ramb> how to make cd case insensitve
[07:13] <ramb> eg cd and fo and pressing tab would say Foo
[07:15] <somsip> ramb: possibly some use of shopt (not sure if autocomplete will work though) http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/The-Shopt-Builtin.html
[07:16] <artois> https://www.google.com/search?q=bash%20tab%20complete%20case%20insensitively
[07:17] <somsip> ramb: I use these in .bash_alias so if I "cd temp" it will automatically "cd Temp" for example http://pastebin.com/BiW6gJpF
[07:17] <somsip> * .bash_aliases
[07:17] <somsip> !google | artois
[07:21] <geirha> ramb: bind 'set completion-ignore-case on'
[07:21] <geirha> that will apply to all completions, not just cd though
[07:31] <artois> somsip: !eggsucking
[07:34] <Hanumaan> Str@ng3r
[07:42] <LoneShark> Quit
[07:45] <xiaoqiao> hello
[07:52] <stevenm> hey I installed 14.04 without using LVM/LUKS... can I some how zip/tar up my existing filesystem - re-install and then replace the files?
[07:52] <stevenm> would that be the easiest way to enable all that LVM/LUKS goodness (in the default layout) *after* I've been using my system for months ... and no I don't want to re-install everything
[07:55] <artois> stevenm: you can do that, yeah
[07:55] <artois> but very little of the OS will be unique, it might be simpler to reinstall, depending on how much personal data you have
[07:55] <stevenm> artois, lots of personal data and lots of apps installed from 3rd parties and compiled myself
[07:56] <stevenm> would take days to get my system fully back to how it was
[07:59] <stevenm> artois, on a default LVM/LUKS install... as far as the contents of the ext4 fs (mounted on /) that is on the LVM LV, inside the crypt partition.... are any of those files aware of their own circumstances?
[07:59] <artois> I don't think so, no
[07:59] <stevenm> i.e. will some bits of /etc for example (except for maybe fstab which is an obvious one) need to be adjusted?
[07:59] <artois> you just need an encrypted lv to copy them to
[07:59] <artois> https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20migrate%20to%20luks
[08:03] <s3012> выаыва
[08:03] <s3012> ываыв
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !ru | s3012
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:04] <s3012> ныкыс
[08:04] <s3007> писька
[08:04] <s3012> ахахах
[08:04] <s3007> дыбыл
[08:26] <helpwithwifi> Looking for help on wifi, I have hp pavillion brand new 2016, formatted and installed linux. The realtek network card does not function properly. It detects home network only and fails to detect other public networks when out and about
[08:27] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: did you have to define a network connection profile for your home network for it to work, or is that auto-discovered ?
[08:28] <helpwithwifi> #TJ it was auto discovered.
[08:29] <satinder> Hi , Can we use inotifywait for eth0
[08:29] <satinder> for checking the ethernet status
[08:29] <satinder> anyone can help please
[08:29] <helpwithwifi> It auto discovers whenever it feels like it. I had tethered from another phone that it auto discovered as well but no public networks such as starbucks etc. But I have used ubuntu before #TJ
[08:30] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: I'm trying to determine if the problem is lack of a network scan. So, at home, to be clear, you don't have a saved connection profile at all, and manually re-enter the passphrase each time it connects? if the passphrase is saved then there's an (automatically created) profile
[08:31] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: could it be due to the frequency band the device is operating in. E.g. its only using 802.11a and those public networks are all 802.11g
[08:32] <TJ-> satinder: inotify is for the file-system. Ethernet status is via tools like 'ip'
[08:32] <helpwithwifi> #TJ you are right. The network profile is saved at home but the phone we tethered from wasn't saved one. So yes, it could be the bandwidth that it is failing to detect? What could be the solution to it?
[08:32] <satinder> ok
[08:32] <gj|work> I'm going to set up a LX-Container to run a Desktop based on Trusty. I neary works out of the box, but there is a problem with the user session management: If i log in -- either via GUI or via ssh -- there is no session listed by 'loginctl'. From this, i e.g. can't do actions requirering authorisation via the desktop. Please, how to debug or solve this?
[08:33] <satinder> TJ : can we check sys/class/net/eth0/carrier with ip tool
[08:33] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: to force a manual scan (and see what band(s) it is scanning) do "sudo iwlist <IFNAME> scan"
[08:34] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: also, as generally the network is under control of Network Manager, check /var/log/syslog when you are in a problematic location, see if it is reporting network scans and if so, which band(s) it is scanning
[08:35] <satinder> TJ : There have any ip tool which can detect carrier 0 or 1
[08:35] <satinder> like inotifywait
[08:35] <satinder> functionality
[08:35] <helpwithwifi> #TJ Sorry for ignorance, what is IFSCAN here? It gives an error no such file or directory.
[08:38] <satinder> ???
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> !patience | satinder
[08:39] <satinder> lotuspsychje : ok sir
[08:39] <gj|work> satinder: 'ip monitor' ?
[08:40] <satinder> gj|work : thanks ! I will try it
[08:41] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: that's the name of your system's wifi interface. You'd need to check on what it is. "iwconfig" is a good tool to do that
[08:42] <helpwithwifi> #TJ it says interface does not support scanning. It is a realtek network card on hp laptop. I deleted windows very first day.\
[08:43] <satinder> gj|work : I want on 1 or 0 return if cable connected then 1 or else 0 , like something there have any linux api
[08:44] <gj|work> satinder: I don't used it for that. But maybe it's suitable, refer to the man page ip-monitor.
[08:45] <gj|work> satinder: You want to pulling test or you want to get a callback?
[08:45] <TJ-> satinder: the init system, or Network Manager, generally handle that
[08:46] <satinder> TJ : Actually I have C program , that getting input from ethernet cable , I want when ethernet cable connected that will run and when disconnected that will stop
[08:47] <swatti> anyone using NVIDIA SLI(ultrabay) ubuntu 14.04 32bit(notebook)?
[08:47] <satinder> then I think about inotifywait but that is only file file system events
[08:47] <TJ-> satinder: if the program only has to be started when the link is up, you could start it via a systemd-udevd service/rule
[08:48] <satinder> TJ : how ??
[08:48] <satinder> any example
[08:48] <satinder> I also want when cable disconnect program will be kill automatically
[08:50] <TJ-> satinder: for that your program would monitor the netlink  state
[08:51] <alexf> hello friends. Does anyone know offhand what script is invoked when you put ubuntu into suspend mode?
[08:51] <gj|work> satinder: Hey - maybe the 'ifplugd' is suitable for your means. From a short read oft the manpage, you may run scripts on state changes.
[08:51] <satinder> ok
[08:51] <satinder> gj|work : I will try it
[08:51] <satinder> thanks
[08:53] <gj|work> satinder: I also found 'netplugd' as some similar.
[08:54] <satinder> gj|work : I want just status off cable like 0 or 1
[08:54] <satinder> for trigger or stop my c program
[08:55] <gj|work> satinder: I read it as you want to start/stop a process on this.
[08:55] <alexf> I ask because I'm trying to run scripts on suspend, and adding them to /etc/pm/sleep.d/ doesn't seem to fit my needs
[08:55] <satinder> gj|work : ifplugd wants root user
[08:55] <satinder> but that is impossible
[08:55] <satinder> for me
[08:56] <sun> ..
[08:56] <gj|work> satinder: of course.
[08:56] <satinder> gj|work : but I don't allow for root user
[08:57] <sun> good  night
[08:57] <gj|work> satinder: May i ask: Why do you want to start/stop you process?
[08:58] <satinder> gj|work : because my program taking feed from ethernet cable
[08:58] <gj|work> satinder: What do you mean by "taking feed"?
[08:59] <TJ-> satinder: in which case use Linux's SIOCGIFFLAGS to get the state for the interface
[09:00] <satinder> gj|work : data
[09:00] <satinder> stream
[09:00] <satinder> TJ : i don't know about that flag
[09:01] <gj|work> satinder: UDP?
[09:01] <satinder>  yes
[09:02] <gj|work> satinder: Then I start to understand you motivation. Because in case of TCP it's pointless.
[09:03] <TJ-> satinder: This isn't really an Ubuntu issue, check one of the programming channels, but something like "struct ifreq ifr; /* get a socket file-descriptor */ ioctl(fd, SIOCGIFFLAGS, %ifr); then "if (ifr->ifr_flags & IFF_UP) printf("Interface %s\n", "up");
[09:03] <satinder> gj|work : that is rtsp
[09:04] <gj|work> TJ-: Younger people ... :)
[09:05] <sun> 啊
[09:05] <sun> 能说汉语吗
[09:05] <satinder> gj|work  : I just want a blocking event which give me status of ethernet cable ether 0 or 1
[09:05] <satinder> TJ : ??
[09:05] <sun> CHINA？
[09:05] <TJ-> satinder: I've just shown you how. Now please take your question to a programming or network channel; it isn't an Ubuntu support issue
[09:06] <somsip> !zh | sun
[09:06] <sun> 我英语不好
[09:06] <satinder> TJ : ok sir thanks for giving your time
[09:06] <satinder> :)
[09:06] <TJ-> satinder: tip: "man 7 netdevice"
[09:07] <gj|work> TJ-: And where to ask *my* question?
[09:15] <TJ-> gj|work: your LXC issue?
[09:18] <Linus_> TJ-: how is "man 7 netdevice"  !=  "man netdevice"
[09:18] <Linus_> what is the difference, i mean
[09:19] <Amoz> Linus_, semantically, nothing.
[09:19] <TJ-> Linus_: the number is the section the page is in. Some names have entries in multiple sections
[09:20] <TJ-> Linus_: to prevent possible ambiguity, I give the number, else the page I'm reading might be different to the page the other person reads (dependent on what packages are installed)
[09:20] <Linus_> hmmmm, when i do ""man 7 netdevice"  it still opens on Page 1
[09:22] <Linus_> TJ-: wait a sec,   i dont even see page numbers... Just "line numbers"..  both commands start at  "line 1"
[09:24] <TJ-> Linus_: look at the status line at the bottom of the man page "netdevice(7)"
[09:25] <TJ-> Linus_: it's not a page number as in books, it's a 'section' number the file is in, under /usr/share/man/manX/ where X is the section number
[09:26] <TJ-> Linus_: try with "man open" "man 2 open" man 3 open" and see
[09:27] <gj|work> TJ-: Yes - the LXC ./. Ubuntu Desktop issue.
[09:27] <ttal> anyone here using xchat? I have xchat in the envelope icon on the panel at the top and I want to get rid of it. Is there any way?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ttal, xchat is abandonware.  use hexchat instead
[09:28] <TJ-> gj|work: are you using an unprivleged container?
[09:29] <ttal> cfhowlett:  oh really, i thought it was the other way round. ok will replace with hexchat and see how it is.
[09:31] <Linus_> alias man='man --nj --nh  # i add this to  .bashrc
[09:31] <Linus_> it make MAN easier to read  :)
[09:31] <Linus_> any other tricks like that for MAN?
[09:31] <Linus_> man --nj --nh
[09:37] <gj|work> TJ-: Sorry for time lag. It's an "full-priv" container on my own server.
[09:41] <hasselmm> is that a know issue, that vsync only works for the first opengl application with 15.10 and ivybridge gpu?
[09:42] <TJ-> gj|work: OK, so no uid mapping. might be worth asking Serge Hallyn the lxc maintainer
[09:42] <swatti> anyone using NVIDIA SLI(ultrabay) ubuntu 14.04 32bit(notebook)?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> swatti, avoid "anyone else" type questions.  stating YOUR problems with YOUR details leads to actual answers.
[09:43] <TJ-> gj|work: try #lxcontainers or #ubuntu-devel
[09:45] <Amoz> well this is annoying.. I'm having crashes on 15.10, in libgdk when trying to do anything in the synapse launcher. Launching it from inside gdb in a tty (e.g.ctrl+alt+4) makes it work, so I can't catch the full backtrace from there. I'm lost, any hints?
[09:46] <hendri> hi
[09:47] <hendri> pleas help me guys... i can't install JDK and Neatbeans
[09:48] <hendri> hello
[09:48] <hendri> everyone can help me
[09:48] <hendri> pleas
[09:48] <hendri> hello
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !patience | hendri
[09:49] <Amoz> hendri, "can't" is not a good description
[09:49] <hendri> why..??
[09:49] <Amoz> try to clearly state what you've tried, and *when* it goes wrong
[09:49] <Amoz> because otherwise it's impossible for us to help you
[09:49] <hendri> -_-
[09:49] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !details > hendri Ms. Cleo has gone to bed already.  no details >> no answers
[09:49] <hendri> hello to Max
[09:50] <hendri> oke oke fine
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> Hello, when i run apt-get update I get the following error
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> I can't see anything wrong with sources.list
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> I've never manually edited it
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> any suggestions?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, more /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999             let's see
[09:52] <jiggerypokery> http://termbin.com/6qh4 thar goes
[09:52] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, yep nothing strange leaps out.
[09:53] <jiggerypokery> what is next port of call?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, perhaps a quick rebuild of sources ... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[09:54] <Amoz> I've never seen "binary-foreign-architecture" before, what's that?
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> no idea
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> W: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[09:55] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: you messed up a "dpkg --add-architecture" didn't you?
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> I don't recall ever running that command TJ-
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> doesn't mean it wasn't run
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> i did have problems with dpkg a couple months back
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> so it is entirely likely
[09:56] <Amoz> there is no main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages in the repo files, so at least it's not lying :)
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> hurrah
[09:56] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: really? that "binary-foreign-architecture" part tells me that "dpkg --add-architecture foreign-architecture" was run
[09:57] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: what does "cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch" report? I bet you have "foreign-architecture" in there
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> yeah it does TJ-
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> pretty sharp, you
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> so what do?
[09:57] <gj|work> TJ-: I got no answers from the lxc guy's yet. I fear they treat it as a "Desktop Linux2 problem. And most of it (like me) are using LXC on headless servers with headless containers. This Desktop Container is my private thing at home.
[09:58] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: right; "sudo dpkg --remove-architecture foreign-architecture" then "sudo apt-get update"
[09:58] <MaxFrames> I have a problem with Remmina used to RDP to a Windows Server 2003 machine. The machine is up and running and accepts RDP connections from other clients (namely RDP client for Windows) but the attemp to connect to it with Remmina fails
[09:58] <jiggerypokery> perfect
[09:58] <jiggerypokery> thank you TJ-
[09:58] <TJ-> gj|work: Serge has written a few blog posts about using lxc on desktop, but usually in the context of isolating individual applications, not the entire session
[09:58] <cfhowlett> TJ-, nice work!
[09:58] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: now, before you go!
[09:59] <jiggerypokery> all ears!
[09:59] <MaxFrames> I have googled the issue and found that I should edit/delete a file called known_hosts but I can't find it on my system
[09:59] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: it is very possible that when that incorrect command was run you meant to do something else and got it wrong
[09:59] <jiggerypokery> 100% sure thats the case
[09:59] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: is the host's first (primary) architecture "amd64" or "i386" ?
[09:59] <Amoz> MaxFrames, in .ssh
[09:59] <MaxFrames> besides the issue is slightly different because I don't get a connection error/certificate error, I just get an infinite "connecting to host..." window
[09:59] <Amoz> MaxFrames, specifically your home dir
[10:00] <Amoz> MaxFrames, it should be seen when  ls ~/.ssh/
[10:00] <MaxFrames> Amoz: what would the actual path be?
[10:00] <Amoz> TJ-, he's on amd64
[10:00] <MaxFrames> I have tried to do ls ~/.ssh/ and I got a "no such file or dir" error
[10:00] <gj|work> TJ-: I know that. I'm very familiar with LXC in principle, and with server things. But not even on this level with any Desktop Linux, it's workflows and processes.
[10:00] <jiggerypokery> amd64 afaik, its my desktop
[10:01] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: OK, you'd have seen "amd64" as the first line of the /var/lib/dpkg/arch file
[10:01] <jiggerypokery> correct
[10:02] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: so, on that assumption, I suspect what you really meant to do back when the incorrect command was run, was to add the i386 architecture for multilibs. The correct command - which you can run now - is "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:02] <jiggerypokery> i386 was in the dpkg arch file too
[10:02] <jiggerypokery> so no need, right?
[10:02] <MaxFrames> Amoz: so given the file is not there, where else should I look? I've done a "find file" on the whole file system including hidden files, no matches
[10:02] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: that allows both amd64 and i386 packages to be installed... that faulty URI will now become ".../binary-i386/..."
[10:03] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: correct, if it is there already, you are good to go
[10:03] <jiggerypokery> amazing, thank you very much indeed
[10:03] <swatti> cfhowlett ok, i use lenovo y510p sli ultrabay sys u14.04lts, only single card working and sli not. i try nv 331 340 and 352 dirver...result stopping-system-runlevel-v-compatibility -> balck screen
[10:03] <MaxFrames> besides, how do I get the "~" symbol on a netbook keyboard (no numeric keypad)?
[10:04] <MaxFrames> to do that command I had to google a page and copy and paste it...
[10:04] <jiggerypokery> iirc correctly I ran out of space on /boot and accidently deleted the kernal I had installed
[10:04] <jiggerypokery> this was months ago
[10:04] <Amoz> MaxFrames, I'm not sure known_hosts is used with RDP, is it?
[10:04] <gj|work> TJ-: the blog-post you mentioned are by Stéphane, i think. But anyway, i may try it on #ubuntu-devel...
[10:05] <jiggerypokery> I resolved it, and it only started complaining the other day
[10:06] <MaxFrames> Amoz: by my research it appears it is
[10:06] <MaxFrames> ok F6 gives me the tilde
[10:07] <Amoz> MaxFrames, have you tried checking if the host is at all reachable from the client?
[10:07] <MaxFrames> yes, it is reachable
[10:08] <MaxFrames> I've ruled out firewall issues (I'm connecting with a vpn, and the IP is fixed, that IP can RDP, and other machines in vpn with that IP can RDP)
[10:09] <Amoz> MaxFrames,if you start the client from a shell you'll see some output that might help to debug
[10:12] <TJ-> gj|work: I was on about https://s3hh.wordpress.com which I'm pretty sure is hallyn
[10:13] <jstephan> He guys, I am playing around with Ubuntu Core (snappy) on Raspberry, My project is in Python, any idea how I can get pip and compile some modules I need?
[10:14] <gj|work> TJ-: Of course.
[10:14] <swatti> cfhowlett :) left.. joke
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> jstephan: maybe the #snappy or ubuntu arm guys know better?
[10:14] <jstephan> okay... thx
[10:16] <gj|work> TJ-: The one i remembered was mentioned at https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/articles/. But this all are just blog-posts about working things, not about the little or big problems you run into ;)
[10:16] <MoonTiger> hi guys - i have a problem with autostarting thinkfan on ubuntu 14.04
[10:16] <viktor_> hi. is it normal for gparted to take as much as 20+ minutes to resize my disk from 290gb to 195gb?
[10:16] <MoonTiger> viktor_, yes it can be quite normal
[10:17] <hateball> viktor_: if you're shrinking it has to move the data, so yes it can take a long time
[10:17] <MoonTiger> does anybody know why adding autostart=yes to /etc/default/thinkfan would cause ubuntu to ask for root pw on boot?
[10:18] <TJ-> gj|work: the reason I mentioned it is I'm pretty sure I saw an article about running a desktop session, and I thought it was on hallyn's blog... I may be wrong, I've read lots of different articles on that over time.
[10:18] <TJ-> gj|work: when you say 'loginctl' doesn't show the session; do you mean run from the host, or within the container?
[10:18] <ttal> cfhowlett: any idea why this is on my panel? http://snag.gy/4i4q6.jpg
[10:19] <cfhowlett> ttal, I take it you purged xchat?
[10:19] <ttal> cfhowlett: yes i did.
[10:20] <ttal> ill try logout / restart
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ttal, I'm on xubuntu so I have a different set up.  However, when I have replaced xchat, the launcher remains.  I edit the launcher to point to hexchat and all is well.  Can't advise how you might do that on unity, however.
[10:20] <gj|work> TJ-: On the host, there is not such stuff. It's a headless server running Gentoo. But it's ordinary PC hardware. For the "Desktop Container", i "physical" reached in the inout/output devices like video, keyboard and mouse. This all is already working well.
[10:21] <DamienDoumer> Hello every one please i'm a new ubuntu user and I after installing ubuntu 15.04 I cant boot my windows 10 OS
[10:21] <DamienDoumer> please help
[10:22] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, 15.04?  end of life.  install 15.10
[10:22] <ntz> hello
[10:22] <gj|work> TJ-: The server is a homeserver for routing, NAS, media streaming, audio rendering and so on. Now, it should be temporary used as a workstation, too.
[10:23] <DamienDoumer> thanks but I really need back my windows O.S now
[10:23] <DamienDoumer> please do any one have a solution ?
[10:23] <ttal> cfhowlett: derp.. logging out fixed it.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, then ask ##windows how to repair your boot
[10:24] <DamienDoumer> thanks I'll try that now
[10:24] <ntz> answering the question of one customer about ubuntu and not having ubuntu at all .... does ubu contain working apt-cron package like debian ?
[10:24] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, when you installed ubuntu did you do "use whole disk" ?
[10:24] <MoonTiger> ntz, ubuntu is based on debian
[10:25] <ntz> MoonTiger: sure, I know so can you please reply my question ?
[10:25] <TJ-> gj|work: I was looking at what loginctrl does to get the list of sessions. It calls sys_getcpu() but it also opens a netlink socket to /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[10:25] <ntz> ++to my
[10:25] <MoonTiger> ntz, so then it either will be installed by default or can be installed with a simple apt-get install
[10:26] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger no I created apartition
[10:26] <DamienDoumer> for the instalation
[10:26] <ntz> I asked if someone can share his experience with this and tell me if 1) it is there, 2) if it is working
[10:26] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, did it not ask you if you wanted to install GRUB ?
[10:26] <gj|work> TJ-: I'll attach remote to the box to check for this socket.
[10:27] <MoonTiger> ntz, why don't you boot a live ubuntu usb stick and see for yourself?
[10:27] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger no it didnt ask me
[10:27] <TJ-> gj|work: I ran "strace logctl" to check it
[10:27] <TJ-> gj|work: grrr, typo!  "strace loginctl"
[10:28] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, that's odd - are you super sure you did a new partition? in file manager (nautilus) do you see your windows partition still there?
[10:28] <farooghkz> hi.
[10:28] <farooghkz> what will happen if i do dis?
[10:29] <farooghkz> > /dev/fd0
[10:29] <ntz> MoonTiger: because it's enough to ask here .... or isn't it ? am I expected in #solaris to tell to the stranger "why don't you install solaris vm?", nope, I'm already gwrown up
[10:29] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (Some gurus advice against chown 775 plus chwown root:user , but as they were laughing at the newbie, they weren't willing to provide real advice)
[10:29] <MoonTiger> farooghkz, you'll redirect whatever came first to the floppy drive device
[10:29] <gj|work> TJ-: There's this socket and a pid file at /run/dbus/
[10:30] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger before installing this is what I did
[10:30] <MoonTiger> ntz, maybe nobody can answer your exact question right now so seeing for yourself is easier or quicker? who is talking about solaris?
[10:30] <DamienDoumer> I went to my windows os, created a new partition then deleted it so that it should be totally freee
[10:30] <cfhowlett> as this is UBUNTU support, solaris is obviously completely off-topic and better not discussed at all.
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> then I installed ubuntu on it,
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, look in the file manager to see if your windows partition is still there
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger my windows partition is accesible via ubuntu
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, during install you get asked for how you want to install ubuntu - you chose the "other" option then did you?
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> it is still there and I can access all of my files
[10:31] <gj|work> TJ-: There's a seat at /run/systemd/seats/ but no users at /run/systemd/users/
[10:31] <farooghkz> moontiger, i cant understand.i know that cmd will clear all bytes in a usaul file but idk what will happen 4 my floppy
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> yeah I choosed other
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, ah ok then it's just the boot manager that needs repairing
[10:32] <DamienDoumer> yeah but please how can I repair it
[10:32] <MoonTiger> there is a "boot repair" app for ubuntu that will fix your dual boot
[10:32] <MoonTiger> then you can pick which you want to run at boot time
[10:32] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, again, repairing windows boot is a ##windows issue.  ask there.
[10:32] <Naruni> hi all, im new to ubuntu with a little bit of linux experience. How can I manually add a repo for the most up to date version of virt-manager? I'm currently using 1.0.1 and my software update says there is no newer software avail, but I know there is version 1.2.1 listed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager
[10:33] <MoonTiger> cfhowlett, not really - installing ubuntu "broke" it so it is only fair we help him repair it no?
[10:33] <TJ-> gj|work: does the journalctl show any actual login activity? In other words, is this a case of there being systemd-logind service records, but you can't see them, or no records at all?
[10:33] <DamienDoumer> ok got it.
[10:33] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, install "boot repair" and let it do its thing
[10:34] <cfhowlett> MoonTiger, he stated he doesn't care about ubuntu, just wanted windows so ...
[10:34] <MoonTiger> cfhowlett, fair enough
[10:34] <anabain> and btw, the chmod/chown thing did the trick
[10:35] <DamienDoumer> OK thanks MoonTiger I'll do that right now
[10:36] <MoonTiger> ok outty bbfn
[10:37] <farooghkz> i didnt understand
[10:37] <cfhowlett> farooghkz, I did. just let it go ...
[10:38] <Naruni> hello?
[10:38] <farooghkz> hi
[10:39] <Naruni> oh hi, i wasnt sure if my last line got sent out or not
[10:39] <farooghkz> cfhowlett, what?
[10:40] <Naruni> i guess more specifically id like to know how to tell package manager to use a specific repo for a specific piece of software
[10:41] <farooghkz> guys, what happen for my floppy
[10:41] <farooghkz> did i format it?
[10:42] <Volkodav> Hi! I am fighting with this dependency for a while now http://paste.ubuntu.com/14589555/. Tried different things to no avail
[10:47] <eviladmin> farooghkz: don't copy that floppy!
[10:48] <Naruni> really? nobody here can help out with repo stuff?
[10:49] <eviladmin> Naruni: did you check the manpages?
[10:50] <OerHeks> Naruni, if you *need* 1.2.1, upgrade to xenial, but it is in development. wait until april for release.
[10:50] <Naruni> eviladmin: yep, it doesnt say how to specify the xenial repo for virt-manager
[10:50] <OerHeks> Naruni, you don't mix versions
[10:51] <Naruni> oerheks: im confused than, how do i use more up-to-date software?
[10:51] <Naruni> then*
[10:51] <OerHeks> wait until it is tested, or build yourself
[10:52] <Sandman> I was wondering if anybody using the Asus H170 Pro Gaming board. I want to know if it supports VT-D
[10:52] <farooghkz> eviladmin, y?
[10:52] <eviladmin> Naruni: read it again, check the -t flag to apt
[10:52] <eviladmin> or just give dpkg the url to the package
[10:52] <eviladmin> hmm, actually just apt-get install foo/bar might work these days
[10:53] <eviladmin> you can ofcourse also pin the package
[10:54] <OerHeks> eviladmin, how does that help Naruni with newer packages that are not in the repo yet?
[10:55] <Naruni> sudo apt-get -t=xenial install virt-manager results in E: The value 'xenial' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[10:55] <eviladmin> OerHeks: uhm, he just asked how to use a spesific repo for a spesific package
[10:55] <eviladmin> OerHeks: I asume he have already added the repo to his list
[10:56] <OerHeks> don't mix them, xenial repo in wily
[10:56] <Naruni> that's my question, i want to use the xenial version of virt-manager
[10:56] <eviladmin> (also dpkg with a url would obviously work evne if it was not enabled)
[10:56] <eviladmin> even*
[10:57] <Naruni> and i would try to use a direct URL however this layout is not quite that easy to find a direct link
[10:57] <Naruni> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/1:1.2.1-4ubuntu1
[11:04] <Flannel> Naruni: So, Ubuntu releases have a particular (major/minor) version of software that doesn't change per release.  So the correct answer to "how do I upgrade virt-manager to 1.2.1" would be "wait a few months for 16.04".
[11:05] <macopython> I am not able to send email from my Ubuntu VM using Golang application. Any help ?
[11:05] <Seveas> macopython: local mta or remote mta?
[11:06] <macopython> What is MTA ?
[11:06] <Flannel> Naruni: With that said, it *appears* that, if the package dependencies are accurate, you *should* be able to get away with downloading and installing the xenial version (along with a few key xenial dependencies), while using 15.10 software for the rest.  This is *not* the case for arbitrary packages.  But in this particular situation, the dependencies are pretty lax.
[11:06] <macopython> I am using my gmail acc
[11:06] <Seveas> so, remote MTA. What's the error?
[11:06] <macopython> sending email to another gmail ac
[11:06] <macopython> Its working on native ubuntu
[11:06] <eviladmin> golang has a smtp lib you can use to use the gmail smtp server
[11:07] <eviladmin> use to send trough*
[11:07] <macopython> Error is dial tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:587: connection refused
[11:07] <macopython> I used same
[11:07] <eviladmin> https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/SendingMail
[11:07] <CIclops> hi started an update for 14.01 and was told to do a partial update, it worked ok (removed a lot of packages) and restated ok. Now Skype has gone and won't install from the software center ...
[11:07] <eviladmin> macopython: you have to do the auth properly
[11:08] <Seveas> macopython: so fix your local firewall to let it through.
[11:08] <eviladmin> macopython: either allow "insecure applications", or do propper auth
[11:08] <Seveas> eviladmin: he's not even near authenticating yet if he getes connection refused :)
[11:08] <Seveas> gets*
[11:08] <macopython> Its working on native Ubuntu but not on VM
[11:08] <macopython> I don't think it has auth issue
[11:09] <Naruni> Flannel: thanks, I think I got some things figured out here. I added the xenial repo to the end of my sources.list then ran software updater to update the lists only and cancelled the update.
[11:09] <Naruni> now im in synaptic and it tells me that 1.2.1 is available so im just going to do that then remove the xenial repo and run update again
[11:09] <Flannel> Naruni: If you want to try this, and keep in mind it's not officially supported, you'll need to download virt-manager and virtinst from xenial, and everything else should be usable from your repositories.
[11:09] <eviladmin> macopython: https://support.google.com/a/answer/176600?hl=en
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: You can get those here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/virtinst and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/virt-manager  (at the bottom on the left half)
[11:10] <eviladmin> macopython: well should have said that to begin with
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: You'll want to install virtinst first, then virt-manager, of course.
[11:10] <Naruni> flannel: it's telling me to reboot, ill brb
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: That may end badly.  But go ahead and try it if you don't mind breaking things :)
[11:11] <Naruni> flannel, nah i know enough about computers to not be worried about breaking it right now
[11:11] <Moonchild> Is there a powermac user?
[11:12] <roby_> $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so -> $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/budus.so
[11:12] <cfhowlett> roby_, xchat is abandonware.  hexchat is the supported replacement
[11:12] <macopython> @eviladmin: I don't see anything imp in link
[11:12] <roby_> la gazzetta dello sport
[11:12] <macopython> It has issue in VM only
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !il | roby_
[11:13] <Naruni> flannel, virt-manager --version now shows 1.2.1
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !it | roby_ sorry, wrong trigger
[11:13] <Naruni> everything else is still running on 'W' repo (sorry i remember remember these stupid names)
[11:13] <eviladmin> macopython: I said it before you said it only failed in you vm (but silly lag...)
[11:14] <eviladmin> macopython: this is why you should give all info up front
[11:14] <eviladmin> macopython: what kind if networking are you doing with your vm?
[11:14] <eviladmin> nat? direct access? tun/tap?
[11:15] <macopython> NAT and Hostonly
[11:15] <macopython> I can visit sites in browser
[11:15] <macopython> Also can ping smtp.gmail.com
[11:15] <macopython> disabled  firewall
[11:16] <acosonic> when I type time in console I get only zeros... ? How to I get current time and timezone on server?
[11:16] <Naruni> acosonic: type date
[11:16] <eviladmin> timedatectl
[11:16] <macopython> @eviladmin: its not issue with app. Its issue with VM
[11:17] <acosonic> and what does time do?
[11:17] <acosonic> what do thoze zeroes represent?
[11:17] <eviladmin> acosonic: depends on your shell
[11:17] <SEGELBERT> man time
[11:17] <acosonic> bash
[11:18] <eviladmin> time is often a builtin
[11:18] <OerHeks>  time run the program COMMAND with any given arguments ARG....  When COMMAND finishes, time displays information about resources used by COMMAND
[11:18] <acosonic> OerHeks: oh I see
[11:18] <MaxFrames> Amoz: I _think_ I have it figured out and if I'm correct, it's not an ubuntu issue
[11:19] <MaxFrames> I had set up a restrictive rule on the allow rdp firewall rule, to accept connections only from trusted mac addresses; it appears that when I connect via vpn from a remote site the mac address that the server sees is the mac address of the remote gateway, which has changed recently
[11:19] <eviladmin> SEGELBERT: help time
[11:20] <eviladmin> er.. acosonic ^
[11:21] <Amoz> MaxFrames, that makes sense. That's why you can ping and ssh to it, but not get any "reasonable feedback" when trying to connect via RDP
[11:21] <SEGELBERT> eviladmin: :P
[11:21] <MaxFrames> yes, the "anal retentive" rule was just for rdp
[11:22] <MaxFrames> is it expected that using openvpn in tun mode, the incoming mac address the server sees is not the one of the openvpn server (which is in the same lan as the target server) but the one of the gateway?
[11:23] <MaxFrames> the connection is nat routed by the openvpn server, so I thought the mac address was the one of the lan port of the vpn server
[11:24] <Seveas> MaxFrames: you seem to fundamentally misunderstand what mac addresses are for and how the tcp/ip protocols are layered. mac addresses are only visible in the same broadcast domain. As soon as a packet is routed instead of switched, you can't see the mac address....
[11:25] <MaxFrames> I can't see the mac address of the originating station, you mean
[11:25] <Re-FleX> (Y)
[11:26] <Re-FleX> its the mac from you systems gateway
[11:26] <Re-FleX> your*
[11:26] <MaxFrames> if the packet is routed, it will have the router's mac address now, will it not?
[11:26] <Re-FleX> (Y)
[11:27] <Seveas> MaxFrames: indeed
[11:29] <MaxFrames> Seveas: then why do you say I misunderstand anything? that is what I was saying.
[11:29] <MaxFrames> I was just expecting the packet to have the mac address of the last router in its way (the openvpn server)
[11:29] <MaxFrames> but if I am right, it has the mac address of the before last router (the remote gateway)
[11:30] <Seveas> MaxFrames: then I misunderstood what you were saying :)
[11:30] <MaxFrames> ;)
[11:31] <MaxFrames> maybe the openvpn server in tun mode "recycles" the mac address of the last hop
[11:31] <MaxFrames> which would explain all of this weirdness.
[11:31] <Re-FleX> Maybe OpenVPN uses a virtual NIC ;)
[11:32] <Seveas> MaxFrames: I missed the start of the question. What's the weirdness you see?
[11:33] <MaxFrames> not being able to rdp into a windows server from an ubuntu client over vpn, using remmina (all ok over a lan link)
[11:34] <MaxFrames> tracked down the issue to a particularly restrictive firewall rule on the server, with a whitelist of allowed mac addresses
[11:34] <Seveas> where's the firewall? between the openvpn server and the rdp server?
[11:34] <MaxFrames> on the rdp server itself
[11:34] <MaxFrames> (software firewall)
[11:34] <orangejuice> hi, how can i install adobe flash player for chromium on lubuntu 14?
[11:34] <Re-FleX> Is the firewall on the windows?
[11:35] <Re-FleX> machine?
[11:35] <MaxFrames> the issue is marked "tentatively solved" ;)
[11:35] <Seveas> MaxFrames: how do packets go from the openvpn server to the rdp server? layer 2 (switching) or layer 3 (routing)?
[11:35] <MaxFrames> to make sure, I will have to go back on the wan site
[11:35] <Seveas> if the former, the rdp server should see the max address of the vpn server, otherwise the mac address of its upstream gateway
[11:35] <MaxFrames> Seveas: openvpn server in tun mode = it acts as nat router
[11:36] <Seveas> MaxFrames: that doesn't matter now.
[11:36] <Re-FleX> @maxframes when you turn the firewall of on the windows machine does the RDP connection work?
[11:36] <Seveas> the mac address of the rdp client is definitely not visible to the rdp server
[11:36] <Re-FleX> off*
[11:36] <MaxFrames> Seveas: that is not what I am saying
[11:36] <CIclops> Hi again, software center says "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" and gives a long list  of packages with unmet dependencies ...how do I fix this?
[11:37] <MaxFrames> I am saying that the openvpn server acts on l3 so you are right and I am right, and the mac address is the gateway's
[11:37] <Bobby_ct>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Bobby_ct wruakaqmpshk
[11:37] <Seveas> MaxFrames: ok
[11:37] <Seveas> Bobby_ct: failwhale :)
[11:37] <Re-FleX> Orange you cant install adobe flash but you can use a alternative just use google ;)
[11:37] <k1l> CIclops: can you list the exact ubuntu version and the package name and the list? in a pastebin ?
[11:38] <orangejuice> re-flex?
[11:38] <Re-FleX> ?
[11:38] <Re-FleX> yes?
[11:39] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[11:39] <OerHeks> Re-FleX, wrong advise ..
[11:39] <Re-FleX> Why wrong advise...
[11:39] <OerHeks> orangejuice, just install restricted extras, for codex, flash, java, fonts and such
[11:39] <orangejuice> whats the command to install the package?
[11:41] <Re-FleX> Flash is not longer supported on linux you can use  plugins to make it work eyes
[11:42] <OerHeks> please stop giving wrong advise, Re-FleX, flashplugin is available in softwarecenter
[11:42] <Re-FleX> :|
[11:42] <Re-FleX> SUPPORTED IAM SAYING
[11:42] <Re-FleX> what does this have to do with software center
[11:44] <k1l> Re-FleX: adobe cut off support. but google took over with support with their own module.
[11:45] <vilitaltti> Re-Flex is little bit right. There is a old version of flashplayer (11) but it gets security patches
[11:47] <CIclops> k1l,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[11:49] <k1l> CIclops: where did you get that skype package from?
[11:49] <CIclops> k1l, the software centre
[11:50] <zzarr> hello!
[11:50] <k1l> CIclops: please do a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal. then do a "sudo apt install skype". please put all the output into a pastebin again
[11:50] <CIclops> k1l, k :)
[11:50] <zzarr> can I change the default session from command line?
[11:53] <Re-FleX> vilitaltti thats exactly what iam saying
[11:53] <Re-FleX> but hey iam giving wrong advise here
[11:53] <Re-FleX> pfffff
[11:53] <Re-FleX> just try and make flash work with firefox! GL!
[11:54] <OerHeks> Re-FleX "you cant install adobe flash" or "supported" is not true... but if this is a i-want-to-win, i leave you to it.
[11:54] <Re-FleX> omg
[11:55] <Ray-01> hello, I have Windows 7 laptop and I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04, so I can dual bool it. I partition the disk for ubuntu. when I try to install ubuntu from the DVD, it doesnt detect any partition. it doesnt even detect the current Windows 7 OS
[11:56] <vilitaltti> Re-flex, flash is working fine with me? :o I dont use it as default and I put it on when I need it. For security reasons
[11:56] <Re-FleX> please were can i get the package from adobe and install Adobe flash on ubuntu? please tell me and prove me wrong
[11:57] <CIclops> k1l,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597140/
[11:57] <ikonia> !flash | Re-FleX
[11:58] <k1l> CIclops: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" in a pastebin
[12:00] <CIclops> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597157/
[12:01] <k1l> CIclops: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[12:02] <CIclops> k1l, 14.04.03
[12:03] <k1l> which desktop?
[12:03] <CIclops> default
[12:03] <orangejuice> ok so now that ive got adobe flash how do i make it work ?
[12:03] <k1l> CIclops: then there is something heavily wrong there.
[12:04] <OerHeks> orangejuice, restart your browser and go youtube
[12:04] <k1l> CIclops: it even says lightdm is not installed. i really wonder why.
[12:04] <k1l> CIclops: try to run a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[12:04] <CIclops> k1l, everything was fine until I upgraded today .. it said partial upgrade, then removed a lot of packages
[12:04] <Flannel> CIclops: please pastebin `apt-cache policy libgcc1 gcc-4.9-base libc6`
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:05] <k1l> CIclops: well, that is a information that is very important
[12:05] <CIclops> k1l, Flannel .. i do both?
[12:05] <k1l> CIclops: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop lightdm
[12:06] <Flannel> CIclops: The apt-cache policy first.  It's not making changes, just looking.
[12:06] <CIclops> k
[12:07] <CIclops> Flannel, k1l  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597186/
[12:09] <Flannel> CIclops: Do you have any idea where you got your libgcc1? (1:5.1~rc1-0ubuntu1)
[12:10] <CIclops> Flannel, since i started 14.04 i've tried to keep the system standard, except for a few extra packages
[12:10] <Flannel> Oh, vivid.
[12:11] <Flannel> CIclops: Did you try to go to 15.04 at all?
[12:11] <CIclops> Flannel, always taken all updates
[12:11] <CIclops> Flannel, no
[12:11] <k1l> CIclops: did you change the sources.list file manually?
[12:11] <CIclops> k1l, yes
[12:12] <Flannel> CIclops: Well, one of your PPAs or something seems to have taking your libgcc1 there, anyway.
[12:12] <CIclops> Flannel i may have done some and forgotton lol
[12:12] <Flannel> CIclops: What you're going to have to do is force that package back to the version in the repos, it'll require you to update gcc-4.9-base at the same time (to the one in the repos).  I unfortunately don't have time to walk you though it.
[12:13] <k1l> CIclops: did you try to upgrade that way? on ubuntu we dont change the sources.list maunally. we use the updater to do that
[12:13] <CIclops> k1l, maybe ...
[12:13] <mrkie> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing  '/sbin/rcvboxdrv setup'  as root. what do i need to do? sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup ? or first sudo -i to become root? because mark is the default ubuntu superuser i install everything with mark, i installed virtualbox with the ubuntu software center
[12:14] <CIclops> i had a package that needed compiling and a special lib
[12:15] <CIclops> Flannel, okay thanks for the help, what should i ask for here  later?
[12:15] <Flannel> CIclops: I'm sure someone can help you configure your apt preferences to make this happen.  But from that apt-cache policy paste, you're going to need to move back to the trusty-updates version of those two packages (or roll forward, in the case of gcc-4.9-base).  So 1:4.9.3-ubuntu4 and 4.9.3-0ubuntu4, for libgcc1 and gcc-4.9-base respectively.  There may be other packages you'll have to 'massage' into place as well.  You'll find them as they yell a
[12:16] <CIclops> Flannel, so i ask for help configuring my apt prefs?
[12:17] <Flannel> CIclops: probably easier/more general to ask for help rolling back a package version.
[12:17] <ikonia> CIclops: I'd roll back all those PPA changes
[12:17] <ikonia> then move forward in a more controlled way
[12:18] <CIclops> ikonia, can you help with that?
[12:19] <mrkie> ikonia: what would you suggest me to choose to do? just sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup or first sudo -i?
[12:19] <mrkie> i get this message he VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing  '/sbin/rcvboxdrv setup'  as root.
[12:20] <ksbalaji> Is there Ubuntu for i5, 64bit acer laptop?  It's not amd  machine.
[12:20] <ikonia> mrkie: I've not any thing from you so have no context for what you'r doing/trying to do / problem
[12:20] <ikonia> ksbalaji: the amd64 version is generic 64bit version
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> ksbalaji: ubuntu is for everyone :p
[12:20] <ikonia> CIclops: look up ppa_purge
[12:20] <Flannel> CIclops: There's about a half dozen ways to go about doing it, otherwise I'd tell you what to look for.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto discusses one way (or maybe two, now that I glance at it).  You just need to set a priority of over 1000 to go "backwards" in versions, remember that.  (This is mentioned/described in man apt_preferences too, if you want to wade through that)
[12:21] <ksbalaji> Thanks. I was just thinking amd64 won't work for i5.
[12:21] <gj|work> ksbalaji: The 64bit Intel architecture is calles AMD64 - perpexing
[12:21] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: except for you. It doesn't like you ;)
[12:21] <vilitaltti> mrkie: I had same problem when I installed from softwarecenter. Try reinstall virtual box from commandline and update after installation. it helped me :)
[12:22] <gj|work> ksbalaji: referr to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: too late, it already bite me :p
[12:23] <ksbalaji> Now, my acer with Ubuntu loaded, won't run WiFi. Can anything be done please?
[12:23] <ikonia> depends on why
[12:23] <ikonia> I'd suggest doing your correct install first
[12:23] <ikonia> then coming back with the problem
[12:23] <wenze1367> so go to google can get it ,
[12:23] <ikonia> ?
[12:24] <CIclops> ikonia,  why does it refer to amd64 when i have i386?
[12:24] <ikonia> it doesn't
[12:25] <ikonia> i386 = 32bit, amd64 = generic 64bit
[12:25] <ikonia> or x86_64
[12:25] <wenze1367> hardware is different
[12:25] <CIclops> ikonia, ok, yes i have x86_64
[12:25] <ikonia> ok so what's the question ?
[12:26] <gj|work> ksbalaji: You may easy google some thing like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer
[12:26] <CIclops> amd64 packages are ok with a 64 bit  intel cpu?
[12:26] <ikonia> yes
[12:27] <vilitaltti> yes
[12:27] <ksbalaji> My install installation went on smooth, but WiFi wouldn't work. I checked with Acer comments. Some others also had same problem. They gave up Ubuntu or acer. I would like to repair.
[12:27] <ikonia> ksbalaji: how can your install be done, you've only just found out that the amd64 version will support your machine
[12:27] <ikonia> you can't have downloaded burnt and installed in that time
[12:28] <wenze1367> i want to learn some thing about snort software,are there someone give me some suggest?
[12:28] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[12:28] <ikonia> wenze1367: what's not clear /
[12:28] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, go to the snort site and read the documentation
[12:28] <ph88> i would like to run Ubuntu Server 15.10 on my raspberry pi 2 model B but i can not find an image for it .. can someone help ?
[12:29] <ksbalaji> I seek your help to run WiFi in acer, with Ubuntu.
[12:29] <hateball> !raspberry
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !details | ksbalaji,
[12:29] <hateball> hmmm, could swear there was one
[12:30] <ikonia> ksbalaji: ok - what have you installed on your machine ?
[12:30] <vilitaltti> ksblaji, have you figure out what wifi card you have?
[12:31] <ksbalaji> Ikonia, I have already installed Ubuntu. Only when I found this WiFi problem, I thought amd64 won't work properly.
[12:31] <k1l> ph88: either there is the ubuntu mate iso or the snappy core iso, iirc
[12:31] <wenze1367> in the day i had lern some based knowledge about snort software,but i want to learn more about source code,there are too simple about it,so i come to here,can you help me?
[12:31] <ph88> k1l, yes i know, but i want ubuntu server
[12:32] <ikonia> wenze1367: what's too simple
[12:32] <ksbalaji> vilitaltti,  it is written 801.11
[12:32] <ikonia> wenze1367: what exactly do you want ?
[12:32] <k1l> ph88: i dont think there is an official server image. maybe you use one of the ubuntu desktop images and install the server packages?
[12:33] <vilitaltti> ksbalaji, your acer model and type in terminal "uname -r"
[12:33] <wenze1367> about tcp/ip protocol,not only use it
[12:33] <ikonia> wenze1367: ok so thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:34] <ksbalaji> Ok. I shall open Ubuntu in my new laptop and come back to you again. Thanks all
[12:34] <k1l> ph88: there might be server images available, but not from ubuntu, afaik. see http://blog.bobbyallen.me/2015/05/17/setting-up-and-running-a-server-with-ubuntu-server-14-04-on-raspberry-pi-2/
[12:34] <ph88> can i compile it myself ?
[12:34] <ikonia> wenze1367: you want to read the snort documentation and engage with the snort guys
[12:39] <jota> hola
[12:39] <wenze1367> it is too much that open source about snort software,so i want to get some help or suggestes about it ?or about how to read open source?
[12:39] <jota> alguien que pueda ayudarme a configurar ubuntu?ç
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !es | jota
[12:40] <vilitaltti> wenze1367, if you want learn about snot learn first internet/networking. I recommend book "Computer networking A top-down approach" it is like "ensyclopedia" about internet
[12:41] <wenze1367> have the Chinese version the book ?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, https://www.snort.org/#documents
[12:42] <ph88> k1l, i have that version currently installed ^^
[12:42] <jota> gracias cfhowlett
[12:42] <cfhowlett> jota, happy2help!
[12:43] <vilitaltti> wenze1367, I dont know maeby :/ try google it might be more helpful
[12:43] <vilitaltti> *maybe
[12:44] <wenze1367> the net is too slow ,especiall go to the web aboard
[12:45] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, you're in china.  baidu/taobao the chinese translation. pretty sure someone will have it.  or see the #ubuntukylin team
[12:46] <wenze1367> thank you ,everyone ,i am reading the manual about snort,
[12:47] <angsuman> Ex-chat
[12:49] <wenze1367> quit
[12:54] <anabain> TJ-, I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> anabain: i think TJ- went for a nap, try again later
[12:55] <anabain> ok, thanks
[12:55] <wenze1367> someone give me the web about ubuntukylin team,i have go to it,so what is it about?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !kylin | wenze1367
[12:56] <wenze1367> are there some channels about tcp/ip procotol?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> wenze1367: ##networking
[12:56] <boxmein> hey how do I make the unity panel calendar thing start on a monday
[12:56] <wenze1367> thank you
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> boxmein: start on monday? it will show the current day?
[13:04] <net2014> hello
[13:04] <net2014> my ubuntu pc doesn't respond
[13:04] <net2014> can I kill the application that apparently did that?
[13:04] <wenze1367> sorry,networking can not connect,
[13:04] <Na3iL> more details net2014
[13:05] <wenze1367> i can not connect with networking
[13:05] <net2014> well, ubuntu started behaving weirdly, the mouse wouldn't interact normally
[13:05] <Na3iL> What did you do before the system goes like that?
[13:05] <Na3iL> compiz effects?
[13:05] <net2014> with apps. then that went away, then I started an app, it worked well, but now ubuntu is unresponsive
[13:06] <net2014> Na3il I was running steam, then the weird things started happening
[13:06] <Na3iL> net2014, did you tried to reboot the pc?
[13:06] <orf_> hey there! I've got a really strange problem with fonts in my Ubuntu install
[13:07] <net2014> Na3iL, well, I tried control alt delete, but didn't work
[13:07] <orf_> Anything italic doesn't show up in Firefox or Chrome. Is there a way to just reset the fonts?
[13:07] <net2014> any other ways I can do a soft reboot?
[13:08] <Na3iL> net2014, ctrl alt f1, You will see the cli mode, type sudo shutdown -r
[13:10] <Na3iL> orf_, that question is much better posted in #firefox
[13:11] <OerHeks> orf_, to get italic and such, see the webcontent > advanced settings, and get the app
[13:11] <OerHeks> For Chrome, that is
[13:11] <orf_> sure, but its a problem with the underlying fonts I believe
[13:12] <net2014> Na3iL, control alt f1 doesn't work
[13:12] <orf_> as a lot of characters in chrome appear as boxes as well.
[13:12] <orf_> both are default fresh installs
[13:12] <OerHeks> orf_, it might need logout/login to take effect
[13:13] <Na3iL> net2014, try ctrl alt  and any Fx key
[13:13] <orf_> ok, but is there a way to uninstall and re-install the ubuntu fonts package?
[13:13] <orf_> for the actual system?
[13:13] <orf_> or verify that they are installed correctly?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> orf_, sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[13:14] <orf_> I know how to use apt, but I have no idea what the standard fonts package in Ubuntu is called
[13:15] <OerHeks> orf_, why? with the extention italic is available, did you try ?
[13:15] <orf_> It's always available in Chrome, it's not available in FireFox
[13:15] <orf_> I can switch the FireFox font to be the same as Chromes, but it looks very strange and I would rather just fix the underlying problem
[13:15] <narcos> Hi all. Is there an Ubuntu desktop installer without GUI? Or would I just go for the server addition?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> fonts-ubuntu-title orf_
[13:16] <orf_> Chrome displays some content as missing glyphs as well, so it seems to be an actual font issue
[13:16] <orf_> thanks cfhowlett
[13:16] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:16] <jbwiv_> anyone know of a decent web-based alternative to virt-manager for managing KVM virtual machines?
[13:16] <Na3iL> narcos, There's arch without an installer gui
[13:16] <orf_> "font used to create the Ubuntu logo (2004‒2010)" - that doesn't seem to be it cfhowlett
[13:16] <RansomTime> Hi, I'm trying to mount my SD card, but I get "unknown filesystem exfat" - how would I go about installing drivers?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> orf_, eh wait 1
[13:17] <hateball> narcos: you can use the minimal iso and then add what you like
[13:17] <narcos> Na3iL, Got a link?
[13:17] <orf_> is there not a meta package with the standard Ubuntu fonts in it?
[13:17] <hateball> !minimal | narcos
[13:17] <narcos> Ah!
[13:17] <narcos> Thanks hateball :)
[13:17] <hateball> narcos: You're welcome :)
[13:18] <Na3iL> narcos, it is another distribution, not like Ubuntu - Its philosophy DIY : Do It Yourself http://archlinux.org/
[13:18] <hateball> And it's also not related to Ubuntu support
[13:18] <OerHeks> RansomTime, install sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils > http://askubuntu.com/questions/451364/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu-14-04
[13:18] <RansomTime> ah, thanks
[13:18] <RansomTime> I was trying exfat
[13:18] <cfhowlett> orf_, https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597501/
[13:18] <narcos> Cool thanks for the tip Na3iL
[13:18] <RansomTime> yeah that's installing now OerHeks
[13:19] <orf_> thank you cfhowlett!
[13:23] <net2014> I did a cold boot
[13:23] <net2014> nothing major running
[13:23] <net2014> can it damage hardware or the os?
[13:25] <mitchelldm> Anyone know why upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 would cause a black screen after Grub?
[13:25] <OerHeks> net2014, maybe open files on your filesystem, but that can be fixed, and would be noticed.
[13:27] <net2014> OerHeks, how would I notice? when I open these files in question?
[13:28] <OerHeks> net2014, when you boot, and the filesystem is not clean, it would halt to ask to perform a fsck
[13:28] <OerHeks> filecheck*
[13:28] <net2014> I see.
[13:28] <OerHeks> and hardware, no, nowadays pulling power should do no harm.
[13:29] <net2014> what about server that run, like samba, could it get corrupted?
[13:30] <OerHeks> good question, maybe samba service could be damaged, if it was doing transactions.
[13:30] <OerHeks> did it, for you?
[13:30] <net2014> it wasn't doing any transcations
[13:30] <OerHeks> oke, i think you are fine then.
[13:31] <orf__> hey guys, my fonts in Ubuntu are really messed up and I can't work out why. Lots of fonts, including system ones like DejaVU-* appear as squares. My co-worker runs the same install, with the same font settings and has no issues with these fonts.
[13:31] <orf__> Reinstalling them does not fix the issue.
[13:32] <net2014> how to do I open a port in the firewall, so, apache web server can serve pages over the network?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> orf__, switch to a different user account and check
[13:33] <orf__> cfhowlett: same thing with a fresh new user account
[13:34] <cfhowlett> desktop or laptop?
[13:34] <orf__> laptop
[13:34] <orf__> when adding a user account some of the help text had squares as well
[13:34] <rory> What's a lightweight notepad app that can do rtf? like Windows Wordpad
[13:34] <cfhowlett> reboot to an earlier kernel orf__
[13:35] <orf__> cfhowlett: this has been going on for at least 3 weeks
[13:35] <BiilD73> quick question, I had working nfs shares from /media/bill/<4 of them> then after reboot, clients cannot see tree below share, idea where to check first?
[13:35] <orf__> and I've done numerous kernel upgrades
[13:35] <OerHeks> orf reinstall fonts: apt-get install --reinstall ttf-ubuntu-font-family # and rebuild fonts config with: fc-cache -f -v
[13:35] <senpai> why when i upload a file via ftp it's chmod itself to rw------- (0600) ? anyway to prevent that?
[13:35] <orf__> http://imgur.com/mOOwtFJ
[13:35] <BiilD73> after reboot, if I term in and do showmount -e they are listed
[13:35] <OerHeks> logout/login might be required to take effect
[13:36] <orf__> ahh. perhaps it is the proprietary AMD driver?
[13:36] <BiilD73> clients are linux based OSMC RPis
[13:37] <cfhowlett> orf__, could be .  switch drivers to test
[13:38] <BiilD73> maybe my usb hdds that the shares are on are not getting mounted at boot properly?
[13:40] <yeahokay> Hi all. I'm trying to install deluged on a microserver, as a headless/thin-client set up. I've followed multiple guides. Uninstalled everything several times, and I'm now running into more and more errors. Would someone please have a look at this error and give me some advice as to what I should do? Cheers. https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597575/
[13:41] <senpai> hi, why when i upload a file via ftp it's chmod itself to rw------- (0600) ? anyway to prevent that? using (vsftpd)
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> !find deluged
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> !info deluged
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> yeahokay  i guess you can install deluge (without d) and then use the webclient
[13:44] <yeahokay> MonkeyDust - that is an option, but I'd prefer the additional functionality of a deluge application on my windows desktop
[13:45] <OerHeks> senpai, set local_umask=0002 >> http://serverfault.com/questions/201305/default-owner-permissions-of-created-files-via-vsftpd
[13:47] <senpai> ty OerHeks
[13:49] <Afdla> how to start xfce4-notifyd?
[13:50] <senpai> OerHeks, any idea what mail system i could install that will allow me to manage email addresses easily?
[13:52] <SEGELBERT> Mail-in-a-Box
[13:52] <ph88> i'm running ubuntu server 14.04 on my raspberry pi ... and a few ssl certificates are outdated (such as github) how can i update my certs ?
[13:54] <OerHeks> senpai, with multiple mailadresses, i have no clue, standaard thunderbird works fine for me with 1 email adress.
[13:55] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[13:56] <ph88> can i just copy /etc/ssl/certs/  from one system to another ?
[14:01] <net2014> I can connect with telnet on ubuntu pc, locally
[14:01] <senpai> cool
[14:01] <net2014> but it doesn't work from windows pc, to connect to ubuntu pc
[14:01] <net2014> any ideas?
[14:01] <BiilD73> ok found a work around, i had to type sudo exportfs -a from term then of course supply root pass, how do I make that permanent for my shares
[14:03] <UbbyStuff12> Hello, i installed on an old pc ubuntu 14.04 LTS, i found enabled the backports repository by default. I'm not interested into the backports, my goal is 100% stability so i disabled it. There's a way to tell apt to revert all the software to the stable version? Because i have installed the backports version of lot of the software now.
[14:03] <UbbyStuff12> Something like apt-get autoremove ? idk
[14:04] <Afdla> how to check which notification thingy I'm running? I don't know what is causing top right messages to appear
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !backports
[14:05] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12,^
[14:05] <Dro> i can't install apache2...  apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.8) but it is not going to be installed
[14:06] <Dro> any ideas?
[14:06] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: Yeah, i would like to have the 14.04 LTS plain without backports, but i have already lot of installed software from the backports repository because the cd install selected the repository automatically for me.
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Dro  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:06] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: how can i revert this installation to the 14.04 without backports ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Dro, update and upgrade and try installing again
[14:07] <Dro> BluesKaj, I already updated, upgraded and dist-upgraded
[14:07] <Dro> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Dro  sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ... then try again
[14:08] <CIclops> ikonia, we chatted about PPA changes and ppa_purge ... the issue i have began when the software updater removed about 200 packages, i have the list is it possible to reinstall them?
[14:08] <Dro> MonkeyDust, already done, but always the same problem
[14:08] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12, think you need to understand that the backports are for your benefit and the packages there are stable , just new and fulkly supported on 14.04 since it is a LTs afterall
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Dro  the try dist-upgrade, instead of upgrade
[14:09] <Dro> MonkeyDust, i used them both but still can't install apache2
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Dro  ok, then idk
[14:10] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: ok let's accept that, but for the sake of learning, is possible make apt-get update all software based on what he have as sources? i mean let's say i have the kernel 3.19 in backports and the 3.13 in stable and i want it to fall back to all the stable packages... is this possible with a command ?
[14:10] <Dro> MonkeyDust, thanks anyway
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Dro  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[14:12] <Dro> MonkeyDust, PS: I'm in a fresh install.. should i do it?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Dro  won't hurt
[14:13] <Dro> MonkeyDust, ok
[14:14] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12, sorry I don't understand your definition of stable packages ....dunno how more stable 14.04 can be than it is now
[14:15] <yeahokay> Sorry to continue to pester everyone, but can someone please take a look at this error I'm getting when attempting to open deluge daemon (deluged). I've looked all over the internet for the past few hours and I'm not getting anywhere... https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597756/
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> yeahokay  try and ask in a python channel
[14:16] <yeahokay> Will do MonkeyDust
[14:16] <yeahokay> cheers
[14:17] <CIclops> mind overflow!
[14:18] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: Package linux-headers-generic, ubuntu 14.04 LTS trusty (14.04LTS) <IP_ADDRESS>.82, ubuntu backports: <IP_ADDRESS>.46
[14:18] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: let's say i want to rollback an installation to how it was without backports i should have the kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.82
[14:19] <UbbyStuff12> so my question was how i can tell to apt-get to remove all the things he updated from backports repository?
[14:21] <CIclops> can I reinstall packages removed by the software updater?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  start from the beginning, what happened
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:24] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, that could be hard, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/59443/how-can-i-revert-back-from-an-upgrade-to-the-proposed-repository
[14:25] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, thx ... software updater worked okay and also removed a lot of packages, now an application has gone and wont reinstall
[14:25] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: thanks
[14:25] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, 14.04.3
[14:27] <orf_> mother of god. I uninstalled the ATI drivers, which borked my whole system (due to something I overlooked). I'm finally back running the stock Ubuntu driver, and the fonts are *still* messed up
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  how did you try to reinstall? purge and then reinstal, or with --reinstall ?
[14:28] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, using the software center, this is the log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[14:28] <OerHeks> orf reinstall fonts: apt-get install --reinstall ttf-ubuntu-font-family # and rebuild fonts config with: fc-cache -f -v
[14:29] <OerHeks> logout/login might be required to take effect
[14:29] <OerHeks> so it was not the ATI driver
[14:30] <orf_> whey
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  you too ... I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[14:30] <orf_> fc-cache -f -v fixed it.
[14:30] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:30] <orf_> <3
[14:30] <OerHeks> now re-install that ATI thingy and have fun, orf_
[14:31] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, OMG that looks scary ...
[14:31] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: seems not to work
[14:32] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: i have to assume that the default ubuntu 14.04.03 kernel is now 3.19 ?
[14:32] <Lupercal> wassaa
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  not at all, i use it as a routine
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  14.04.3 here
[14:33] <Guest64044> hello
[14:33] <net2014> hello
[14:33] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:33] <net2014> I added password to root, but when I am a user and do sudo su, the user password is requested, but not the root password too
[14:33] <net2014> why is that?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> !root | net2014 here's why
[14:34] <OerHeks> !info linux-generic trusty
[14:34] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:35] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, i know it can be hard, removing proposed .. got no clue else than that page :-(
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: no, i want to remove backports
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: and stay only on stable + security channel
[14:35] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:35] <OerHeks> proposed/backports, same issue
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: heh :\ i know
[14:36] <OerHeks> backports are automatic enabled on my 15.10
[14:37] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> Guest64044  repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, not every 2 minutes
[14:38] <OerHeks> Guest64044, installed java 8 ?> http://askubuntu.com/questions/689291/netbeans-8-0-2-freezing-at-startup-on-ubuntu-15-10-64bit
[14:38] <OerHeks> !java
[14:39] <net2014> MonkeyDust, thanks, but why then the ubuntu allowed me to changed the password of root?
[14:40] <OerHeks> net2014, what you did is not the ubuntu way, how did you set rootpass??
[14:40] <net2014> OerHeks, sudo su, logged in as root, then typed passwd
[14:41] <OerHeks> delete it, and logout/login > sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[14:41] <Guest64044> Error: missing `jamvm' JVM at `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/jamvm/libjvm.so'.
[14:41] <Guest64044> Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.
[14:42] <net2014> OerHeks, why should I delete it?
[14:43] <OerHeks> net2014, then don't, and learn how to use it, i am not going to find out how.
[14:44] <net2014> OerHeks, maybe the password I set for root, doesn't even exist?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> net2014  to us, setting a root password comes down to ruining your system ... you won't find much support for that, in this channel
[14:45] <linuxlove> hello
[14:45] <linuxlove> please help
[14:45] <linuxlove> Error: missing `jamvm' JVM at `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/jamvm/libjvm.so'.
[14:45] <linuxlove> Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.
[14:45] <SEGELBERT> hi Guest64044
[14:46] <net2014> I don't get it. if root has no password, why ubuntu allowed me to add one to it?
[14:47] <circ-user-3mrWe> sudo is not root
[14:47] <OerHeks> net2014, did you logout/login after that?
[14:47] <circ-user-3mrWe> it is admin
[14:47] <net2014> OerHeks, no
[14:47] <OerHeks> might help..
[14:47] <boxmein> MonkeyDust: what's the rationale for not having a root password?
[14:47] <concon> HI! Are the UbuCon presentations going to go onl;ine????
[14:48] <OerHeks> boxmein, it is described here fully > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[14:48] <wadadli> linuxlove: seems very straight forward
[14:48] <net2014> ok, so, now that I set a password for root, what do I do? I simply remove the password?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> boxmein  you better ask the ubuntu devs
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> boxmein  or start in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:49] <concon> HI! Are the UbuCon presentations going to go onl;ine????
[14:49] <concon> oops sry didn't mean to repaste
[14:50] <net2014> if I log as root, type passwd and enter twice, without giving an actual password, won't that remove the password from root?
[14:50] <OerHeks> concon, i hope so http://ubucon.org/en/
[14:50] <net2014> by logging, I mean in a terminal I open, not actually log in into the system
[14:51] <wadadli> linuxlove: please do not prvate msg me
[14:51] <linuxlove> wadadli, what should i do now?
[14:51] <concon> OerHeks: couldn't see any links to vids on that site though. The dev summits usually go online immediately
[14:52] <linuxlove> wadadli, what should i do now?
[14:53] <net2014> actually, I never created a root account, it seemed to exist when I bought my pc
[14:53] <net2014> I think it exists, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to login as root from terminal, right?
[14:54] <OerHeks> concon, all i find > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubucon+SCaLE+14x
[14:54] <wadadli> linuxlove: I would just get rid of openJDK to begin with
[14:54] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: as alternative, is possible during the cd installation tell the installer to remove the backports ?
[14:54] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: because i wonder maybe is possible :O
[14:55] <OerHeks> hmm not sure you can.
[14:55] <net2014> some help please, I'd like to fix this issue
[14:55] <concon> OerHeks: cheers mate
[14:55] <boxmein> OerHeks: oh I see
[14:55] <Pici> net2014: if you want to lock the root password so it goes back to what it was when Ubuntu was installed: sudo passwd -l
[14:55] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: if i deselect the checkbox download packages while installing i should be able to use the only one from cd right ?
[14:55] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: in that case i have to check the cd ones i guess :D
[14:55] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, yes.
[14:56] <net2014> in users gui, there is no root user, but I can log in as root from terminal. do I have a root user? am i supposed not to have one?
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: maybe my 10.04.03 has already the backports kernel mounted into it
[14:56] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, not sure what your reason is to avoid backports.
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: i want just the super stable channel
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: backports are not checked totally
[14:57] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: and i have to give my parents a machine auto updated but also working without mess
[14:57] <net2014> Pici, thanks for the information, I need some more information though first. please see my previous question
[14:57] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: still is something for learn ^^
[14:58] <Pici> net2014: People say that there is no root user, but thats not really true.  The fact of the matter is that the root password is locked by default and that sudo should be used instead.
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