[09:29] <pengwyn> jmarsden-   Bot's working now.  I had to open dialog.  duh
[09:29] <racha> Artemis3: there is no Option for that .. but someone told me i can du that with pulseaudio ... but idk. how :S
[09:29] <Artemis3> whats the model?
[09:29] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[09:29] <Artemis3> (lspci)
[09:29] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[09:30] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[09:31] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Delete / Rebuild the account for the one user
[09:31] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Create a new account and test
[09:32] <pengwyn> Logomachist-     or Maybe if you were messing with the settings, just CTR-ALT-BACKSPACE to reload the xserver
[09:33] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[09:34] <Blizzerand> !sound
[09:34] <Blizzerand> !sound | racha
[09:34] <Blizzerand> racha : Not sure that would help but try the link
[09:34] <racha> Blizzerand: that dont work....
[09:35] <racha> Blizzerand: I need to mod. my Outupt Jack's :) they need to be like in pic : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:35] <aaron113> pengwyn: are you there
[09:35] <iceroot> is there a way to use auto-complete with scp? because often i dont know the filenames and have to use an extra ssh to look up  something like scp user@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/michael/mail-for->tab = mail-for-friends.odt
[09:35] <racha> Blizzerand: and someone say me it can be done with pulseaudio
[09:36] <pengwyn> aaron113-  yeah
[09:36] <Blizzerand> !ubuntuforums
[09:36] <aaron113> pengwyn: ok just type in a terminal :sudo aptitude/apt-get install x11vnc
[09:36] <mostafa_> James147: I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:36] <aaron113> pengwyn: i use aptitude
[09:37] <phux> Whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[09:37] <Blizzerand> racha : try ubuntu froums , those guys may be able to help you out
[09:37] <mostafa_> I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:37] <pengwyn> aaron113-  you don't want me connecting to your box man
[09:37] <aaron113> ok
[09:37] <aaron113> nut
[09:37] <aaron113> *but
[09:37] <pengwyn> This is just a vm, but hey, I don't want to be on your files.
[09:37] <pengwyn> You can test yourself can't ya?
[09:38] <aaron113> pengwyn: do you know why im having that problem
[09:38] <jmarsden> phux: aptitude has different (more complex) dependency handling, but they are both tools that do the same task.
[09:38] <ace__> how can i install opera 10 in xubuntu
[09:38] <pengwyn> I would assume bad rules for the X11
[09:38] <pengwyn> Or bad iptables rules
[09:38] <duckx0r> ace__: go to the oepra website and downoad the .deb file
[09:38] <duckx0r> opera*
[09:38] <mostafa_> I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:39] <aaron113> pengwyn: then why isnt it working
[09:39] <Artemis3> i like apt-get more, as i have seen aptitude going real crazy trying to "solve" dependencies
[09:39] <duckx0r> mostafa_: that question makes no sense
[09:39] <pengwyn> aaron113-   does it connect
[09:39] <mostafa_> duckx0r: why ?
[09:39] <jmarsden> mostafa_: Read a good guide to bash scripting such as http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[09:39] <ace__> But is that safe?.I mean i cannot find opera in synaptic
[09:39] <duckx0r> mostafa_: you want to ask the user to do this or that? what do you mean?
[09:40] <Artemis3> opera has a repo in their own page i think, or a .deb
[09:40] <duckx0r> ace__: perfectly safe, yes.
[09:40] <aaron113> pengwyn: yes it connects to a computer very fast but i cant control it
[09:40] <pengwyn> aaron113-   and your keys and mouse are in a kvm right?
[09:40] <duckx0r> Artemis3: yes, you are right, they have a repo too
[09:40] <ace__> Thanks alot duckx0r.
[09:40] <iceroot> ace__: opera is in the canoncial-repo (imo)
[09:40] <ManDay> This night, I had my laptop updating from 9.04 to 9.10 on battery power. It had about three to four hours of power left when it started installing packages (stated: remaining 40 minutes). Today morning I started it and just goes into an empty black screen with a white underscore in the upper left corner instead of booting up the kernel. Taking a look into GRUB, it only has kernels from 2.6.28-11 through 2.6.28-15, which is weird because it shoul
[09:40] <ManDay> d have updated to 2.6.30 - any suggestions?
[09:40] <aaron113> pengwyn: whats a kvm?
[09:41] <pengwyn> okay your keys and mouse are directly connected to the cpu right?
[09:41] <mostafa_> duckx0r: I wanna restart but before that I want to ask the user to do this or not? and ofcourse this is a script command
[09:41] <jmarsden> aaron113: Kernel Virtual Machine
[09:41] <alex__> hi
[09:41] <Artemis3> ace__, also i suggest you give midori a try ^^
[09:41] <racha> any1 knowe why is my Flash Videos Laggy :S ?
[09:41] <pengwyn> jmarsden-  Keyboard Video Mouse Switch
[09:41] <duckx0r> mostafa_: if users are using sudo, they should know what they are doing before they try to restart
[09:42] <aaron113> pengwyn: kernel virtual machien?
[09:42] <ace__> Installing midori right now.
[09:42] <Artemis3> racha, could be many things, but dont try fullscreen (flash sucks)
[09:42] <pengwyn> aaron113-  No.  Keyboard Video Mouse Switch
[09:42] <jmarsden> Hmmm... depends on context, I suppose.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[09:42] <Replop> hum. after booting on Ubuntu's dvd, and selecting "install ubuntu" ,  I got a grey screen with a white rectangle in the upper left corner and a laggish round cursor.    Doesn't look like normal behavior
[09:42] <jmarsden> In the Ubuntu world, KVM is a virtualization technology...
[09:42] <aaron113> pengwyn: never done that before?
[09:43] <racha> Artemis3 : i knowe ... but all my videos on Youtube are lagy :S how to fix that ?
[09:43] <pengwyn> where 1 key does a ton of boxen
[09:43] <mostafa_> duckx0r: K but i just wanna to prompt the user that's all
[09:43] <pengwyn> Doin it now .
[09:43] <mostafa_> duckx0r: how could I prompt?
[09:43] <pengwyn> (cough)
[09:43] <Artemis3> racha, which video card?
[09:43] <aaron113> pengwyn: why not try vnc
[09:43] <jmarsden> mostafa_: Learn bash.  Especially the read buildin.   Tyep   help read    for some info on that.
[09:44] <racha> Artemis : ATI X1650
[09:44] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I have hardware
[09:44] <duckx0r> mostafa_: i don't think that you can. if a user is issuing a shutdown command, they should know that that's what they want to do
[09:44] <wangjian2012> ubuntu Õģ│ķŚŁõĖŹķ£ĆĶ”ü ńÜä µ£ŹÕŖĪ ÕĘ▓ń╗ÅÕ«ēĶŻģõ║åsysv-rc-conf
[09:44] <aaron113> pengwyn: ? :o
[09:44] <duckx0r> mostafa_: especialy if they are sudo'ing to do it
[09:44] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Of course you can ask users a question in a shell script...
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[09:44] <aaron113> pengwyn: no i meant we both try it
[09:44] <Artemis3> racha, ouch, im not expert with catalyst..
[09:44] <aaron113> wangjian2012: noone can read thAt sorry
[09:45] <duckx0r> jmarsden: i think he was saying in the shutdown command itself though
[09:45] <Replop> seeing thoses kanjis, but not understanding them, indeed
[09:45] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I could try it, you could give me your nfo to logon, and I could delete or snatch your files.  That's not what you want dude.
[09:45] <Artemis3> might be chinese...
[09:45] <jmarsden> duckx0r: No, he wants to know how to write shell scripts without actually learning bash :)
[09:45] <duckx0r> jmarsden: lol ahh yeah i think i see what you mean now
[09:45] <aaron113> no looks like japaniese
[09:46] <bazhang> !cn | wangjian2012
[09:46] <mostafa_> duckx0r: how could I prompt the user to press sth can you help me with this?
[09:46] <pengwyn> aaron113- looks like big 5
[09:46] <jmarsden> mostafa_: The read command... help read
[09:46] <Artemis3> its chinese, see, no hiraganas :)
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: ? what!
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: pm cani
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: can i pm u
[09:46] <pengwyn> y
[09:47] <aaron113> pengwyn: private
[09:47] <duckx0r> mostafa_: just do a google search on bash programming and learn how to give the user a prompt
[09:48] <mostafa_> duckx0r: thanks for your help;)
[09:48] <duckx0r> mostafa_: you have to create a script that will ask the user whether or not to continue and if so, issue the shutdown command. they'll also have to enter their password too since it uses sudo (and be a member of the wheel group)
[09:49] <duckx0r> man... why couldn't i remember yesterday that the name of the group was wheel?
[09:49] <mostafa_> duckx0r:  yeah exactly I want to do such thing
[09:49] <grizm> ąČąŠą┐ą░ ą║ą░ą║ą░čÅ čéąŠ
[09:49] <duckx0r> mostafa_: unfortunately you're going to have to learn how to program a bit
[09:50] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Because in Ubuntu, there is no wheel group?
[09:50] <mostafa_> duckx0r: I wanna prompt the user that if he don't want to reboot press N and then it cancels the restart
[09:50] <Artemis3> jmarsden, there is adm :)
[09:50] <Chibble> duckx0r: there is no wheel in Ubuntu
[09:50] <jmarsden> mostafa_: help read     # I already told you what command to use to prompt the user and get his response.
[09:51] <duckx0r> there's a wheel group in my kubuntu 8.04 :P
[09:51] <genii> !ru grizm
[09:51] <genii> !ru |grizm
[09:51] <grawity> duckx0r: He means "by default, there is no wheel group"
[09:51] <grawity> Chibble: But there is 'admin'
[09:51] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Then you added it.  I don't know of a default Ubuntu install that creates a wheel group.
[09:51] <Chibble> grawity: I will state it again for you. There is no wheel group in Ubuntu.
[09:51] <jmarsden> duckx0r: So telling others they need to be in a wheel group is a bad idea.
[09:51] <ManDay> This night, I had my laptop updating from 9.04 to 9.10 on battery power. It had about three to four hours of power left when it started installing packages (stated: remaining 40 minutes). Today morning I started it and just goes into an empty black screen with a white underscore in the upper left corner instead of booting up a login shell. Taking a look into GRUB, it only has kernels from 2.6.28-11 through 2.6.28-15, which is weird because it sh
[09:51] <ManDay> ould have updated to 2.6.30. Manually selecting 2.6.28-15 (recovery) hangs up at "[   9.54600] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0". Manually selecting 2.6.28-15 it shows the ubuntu loading bar (not progress bar) and goes into the black screen then.
[09:52] <mostafa_> jmarsden: thank you, you are right I should go and learn more ;)
[09:52] <duckx0r> jmarsden: k my mistake
[09:52] <grawity> Chibble: I know that. But there is an "admin" group, which is for all purposes the same thing.
[09:52] <mostafa_> mostafa_: then I come back ;)
[09:52] <Artemis3> why would you update distro on battery power? thats crazy :P
[09:52] <Chibble> grawity: for the last time I will state: There is no wheel group in Ubuntu. Please drop the matter.
[09:52]  * grawity sighs
[09:52] <grawity> I didn't even start it.
[09:52] <mostafa_> duckx0r: jmarsden: thank you both
[09:53] <Blizzerand> lol
[09:53] <Artemis3> ManDay, i say, dl rc5 and install fresh
[09:53] <duckx0r> but that's weird because i remember removing a user from the wheel group and then they were unable to sudo in my kubuntu 8.04 install and i don't remember adding the group...
[09:53] <Artemis3> i mean alpha 5
[09:53] <ManDay> Artemis3, rc5 is what? the kernel?
[09:53] <ManDay> or jaunty?
[09:53] <Artemis3> no no karmic
[09:53] <Artemis3> alpha 5
[09:54] <Artemis3> or the latest
[09:54] <ManDay> i beg your pardon but how could i download karmic?
[09:54] <Artemis3> oh
[09:54] <ManDay> would i have to do it manually?
[09:54] <Blizzerand> Karmic Alpha 6 in 1 1/2 week
[09:54] <ManDay> or is there something like a live-install package?
[09:54] <jmarsden> Artemis3: But that would potentially lose all ManDay's data on the laptop!  That's not really a solution to a non-booting machine with an existing OS and data on it.
[09:54] <Artemis3> ManDay, http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
[09:54] <ManDay> jmarsden, screw the data
[09:54] <duckx0r> ManDay: karmic is still in alpha, so it's not recommended unless you are testing it
[09:55] <jimis> anyone gay
[09:55] <jimis> plz
[09:55] <Artemis3> well he can always backup first from the live cd
[09:55] <ManDay> I was just planning to get jaunty fresh and then update that again.
[09:55] <jimis> anyone gay
[09:55] <jimis> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[09:55] <ManDay> duckx0r, i want the INTEL graphics fixed. 2d performance is horrible
[09:55] <Blizzerand> ManDay : : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-5/
[09:55] <Artemis3> and he was going into 9.10 anyway...
[09:55]  * grawity tries to decide between !ot and !ops
[09:55] <duckx0r> ManDay: do they fix that in karmic?
[09:56] <Artemis3> yes its for testing, no one should be upgrading into 9.10 unless the data doesnt matter and can be wiped, etc.
[09:57] <Chibble> grawity: in future use either one as you see fit. However, do not clog the channel with your "ruminations" on the matter. Thank you.
[09:57] <aaron113> grawity: ops is simple
[09:57] <Artemis3> And actually, when you finish installing karmic, you have to fsck once because of a silly bug :P
[09:58] <duckx0r> Artemis3: lol that is rather silly
[09:58] <Artemis3> and yes, it seems intel is better with 9.10
[09:58] <grawity> Chibble: And that's kinda the reason why I took it to PM.
[09:58] <davidscott> hi! is it a french version of ubuntu channel?
[09:59] <davidscott> hi! is it a french version of ubuntu channel?
[09:59] <grawity> davidscott: Try #ubuntu-fr
[09:59] <grawity> davidscott: And there's really no need to repeat your messages.
[09:59] <duckx0r> Artemis3: ooh that's good. does it support compiz?
[09:59] <Chibble> grawity: please ask before PMing me in future. Thank you.
[09:59] <Artemis3> yes
[09:59] <MadAGu> hey guys i have a problem with 9.10... i can't click the youtube player buttons when i use kde and compiz is activated
[09:59] <Artemis3> in the 3 machines with intel gma i tried it enables compiz
[10:00] <aaron113> Chibble: ya right u didnt ask me! >:(
[10:00] <duckx0r> Artemis3: that's good to know thanks
[10:00] <tomas1> heu guys any way to set a mail server up on 9.04 desktop
[10:00] <aaron113> tomas1: i can help
[10:00] <grawity> tomas1: Just install Postfix or Exim4, then configure it.
[10:00] <Canadian_Trenche> SO question i just installed 9.10 on acer one and of course wireless drivers arent working try to install madwifi and doesnt want to accept any ideas ?
[10:00] <nemesis1911> I gotta problem with my computer freezing up my mouse and keyboard stops working when I start to play mp3 using any player in Ubuntu 9.04
[10:01] <aaron113> tomas1: install mozila thunder bird
[10:01] <tomas1> ok will try
[10:01] <nemesis1911> can anyone help me
[10:01] <aaron113> tomas1: it is the best
[10:01] <MadAGu> anyone?
[10:01] <tomas1> i have that but its not what i ment
[10:01] <duckx0r> aaron113: he said a mail server, not a mail client
[10:01] <pengwyn> nemesis1911-  what kind of power supply you got?
[10:01] <aaron113> !wait | MadGu
[10:01] <duckx0r> nemesis1911: no
[10:01] <Chibble> aaron113: I have tried to help you two times.  Once more; please find out your specific input hardware.
[10:02] <duckx0r> nemesis1911: sorry didn' see your first comment. ignore me.
[10:02] <Canadian_Trenche> chibble aaron was here last night he is kinda thick headed when it comes to being helped
[10:02] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[10:02] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[10:02] <ManDay> duckx0r, yes, it's said to be fixed. Otherwise I wouldn't update
[10:02] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Logomachist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <Canadian_Trenche> dude dont flood
[10:02] <nemesis1911> its a 300w
[10:02] <NumLock> Hi Everyone
[10:03] <tomas1> where do i get exim4
[10:03] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Make A NEW ACCOUNT and TEST
[10:03] <aaron113> google it tomas1
[10:03] <Chibble> Canadian_Trenche: I thought he was being deliberately obtuse. As I was giving him instructions he was insulting me.
[10:03] <Chibble> aaron113: I will still help you, but you *must* perform the tasks asked of you
[10:03] <tomas1> and does it run on the desktop version
[10:03] <Canadian_Trenche> >.> yeah same as last night
[10:04] <pengwyn> nemesis1911-  Maybe not enough?  for all your drives and usb?
[10:04] <duckx0r> Logomachist: what WM are you using?
[10:04] <Chibble> aaron113: and, for your own security, do *not* keep asking people to connect to your machine.
[10:04] <Logomachist> Canadian_Trenche: Sorry, didn't think 3 lines were unreasonable. I'll write it all in one clump next time.
[10:04] <duckx0r> Logomachist: err desktop environment i mean
[10:04] <shrey> hey when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i m in konsole mode. But how to come back to KDE mode ?
[10:04] <ManDay> Ok, I'm downloading the Karmic install CD.
[10:04] <aaron113> Chibble: i didnt ask anyone
[10:04] <Myrtti> ctrl - alt - f7, shrey
[10:04] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  have you tested by making a new user account?
[10:04] <aaron113> ManDay: realy!
[10:05] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I already did make a new account. The new account works decently, I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with the old one.
[10:05] <nemesis1911> pengwyn : I don't have a lot pluged in.. it just does it when I play MP3 when I play movies its fine
[10:05] <dell_> hello, can anybody have any experiences for intel gm45 graphic driver. i have a sloppy picture in HD flash movies on youtube ...
[10:05] <Logomachist> duckx0r: I'm using the default Ubuntu environment.
[10:05] <zaccour> is there something like computer janitor for kubuntu?
[10:05] <ManDay> I assume there isn't any way to strip the ubuntu installation down to a set of essentials apart from installing it all manually, is there?
[10:05] <NumLock> I would like to create my own remixed ubuntu
[10:05] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  what window manager?
[10:05] <shrey> Karmin is Gnome or KDE.
[10:05] <Myrtti> !mini | ManDay
[10:05] <bazhang> !remaster > NumLock
[10:05] <pengwyn> rm -rf ~/.kde .gnome
[10:05] <ManDay> ah!
[10:06] <ManDay> Myrtti, something like that available for Karmic?
[10:06] <Myrtti> ManDay: ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[10:06] <shrey> Karmic is Gnome or KDE ? i m using Kubuntu KDE so should i switch to Karmic, if yes than why?
[10:06] <pengwyn> or rename them  SORRY  Logomachist
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: no
[10:06] <Chibble> aaron113: I'll tell you in channel. Write it down, or copy and paste it somewhere. The "lshw" and "lspci" commands will aid you in the first instance
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: karmic is the name of an upcoming release
[10:06] <bazhang> shrey, karmic discussion in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <NumLock> bazhang: can i release my iso when finished?
[10:06] <duckx0r> shrey: when it is released, you can switch if you want
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: it's either
[10:07] <Logomachist> pengwyn: By window manager do you mean Gnome or compiz? Sorry I'm not exactly sure of Linux terminology.
[10:07] <bazhang> NumLock, share with others? sure why not
[10:07] <Artemis3> Canadian_Trenche, in the zg5s i tried with 9.10, wireless work out of the box
[10:07] <shrey> Myrtti: thanks
[10:07] <grawity> Logomachist: Compiz is the window manager, GNOME is the entire desktop environment.
[10:07] <pengwyn> gnome, kde, e, poisonbox, etc
[10:07] <Logomachist> grawity: OK.
[10:08] <grawity> pengwyn: GNOME is not a window manager.
[10:08] <jfcgauss_> hi. synaptic 0.62.5 that comes with ubuntu 9.04 keeps selecting Preferences>"consider recommended packages as dependencies" while i keep unselecting it. what could be the reason (my systems is updated) ?
[10:08] <NumLock> bazhang: cool, once i've compiled my iso can i share it streight away?
[10:08] <grawity> Logomachist: (And if you turn off Compiz, you get Metacity, the simpler window manager)
[10:08] <bazhang> NumLock, of course
[10:08] <Artemis3> these are called Desktop Envireoments (Metacity would be the default Window Manager)
[10:08] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I'm sorry, what did you want me to rename? .gnome and .kde files?
[10:08] <NumLock> :)
[10:09] <Logomachist> pengwyn: .gnome I deleted earlier
[10:09] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  I suggested you try to rename the window manager config files
[10:09] <pengwyn> Logomachist- Or the entire account
[10:09] <aaron113> Chibble: i didnt see anything about touch pad or mouse
[10:09] <Logomachist> pengwyn: What exactly should I rename and where do I find it?
[10:10] <pengwyn> beyond that, you'll have to compare to find WHAT went wrong
[10:10] <Chibble> aaron113: please direct all further questions to grawity. Good day to you
[10:10] <pengwyn>  /home/theaccountyourtalkingabout
[10:10] <Logomachist> pengwyn: WIll do that now.
[10:10] <aaron113> grawity: you there
[10:10] <NumLock> I'm looking to install the very latest apache, as ubuntu doesn't come with the very latest version, if someone types tasksel and selects LAMP, will ubuntu over-wright the apache install or error out that apache is already installed?
[10:10] <ninel> my upgrade of  hardy to intrepid and then to jaunty   disabled the  unified button for IM status indicator + shutdown button how can I recover that?
[10:10] <S33K3R> can anyone give a reason why i shouldn't upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[10:10] <pengwyn> Wait
[10:10] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Wait
[10:11] <aaron113> S33K3R: because the stable version isnt redy or comeout yet
[10:11] <bazhang> S33K3R, its not released; discussion of karmic in #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <pengwyn> If you already have one working in a test account you could just rename stuff.  nevermind.
[10:11] <grawity> aaron113: ?
[10:11] <pengwyn> account juggle
[10:11] <pengwyn> nm
[10:11] <aaron113> grawity: chibble said you could help me
[10:13] <NumLock> I'm looking to install the very latest apache, as ubuntu doesn't come with the very latest version, if someone types tasksel and selects LAMP, will ubuntu over-wright the apache install or error out that apache is already installed?
[10:13] <dell_> does anybody have any experience about intel gm45 video chipset ?
[10:13] <ManDay> Can someone tell me the name of the (Windows) tool which puts an iso onto a thumbdrive and makes it bootable?
[10:14] <grawity> ManDay: Unetbootin is the most popular one.
[10:14] <ManDay> grawity, thanks thats exactly what i was thinking of
[10:14] <aaron113> grawity: please see my private mesage.
[10:15] <abhi_> ManDay: unetbootin
[10:15] <ManDay> Does the mini-installation support the same drivers for Wireless as the normal one?
[10:19] <miguelonnnn> hi
[10:19] <xuckx0r> hi
[10:19] <miguelonnnn> please how can i know where is my grub 1.5 installed?
[10:20] <xuckx0r> miguelonnnn, /boot/
[10:20] <merma> /boot/grub ?
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> i don't have boot
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> ah yeah you mean the folder
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> ok xd
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> thanks
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> esto no va tio
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> le doy a aceptar y no pasa nada
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> que es eso  dcc?
[10:21] <xuckx0r> miguelonnnn, wrong chat window?
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> no me deja aceptarlo
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> sryy
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> sryyyyyyyy
[10:21] <Sassy> Hi All - can someone please tell me if there is a sudo apt-get install for a CD burning program please????
[10:21] <jfcgauss_> brasero
[10:21] <grawity> Sassy: Brasero is already included with Ubuntu.
[10:21] <xuckx0r> Sassy, are you using gnome or kde?
[10:21] <grawity> Sassy: The package name is 'brasero'. If you're on Kubuntu, K3B may be better.
[10:21] <Sassy> umm.... gnome i think
[10:21] <pengwyn> k3m in kde
[10:22] <pengwyn> k3b ha I mean
[10:22] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I renamed my home directory, and when I logged in things were worse than before- I didn't even have wallpaper. So I changed the directory back to the way it was, logged in again, and now am back to the original problem: no panels and no window decoration. Do you recommend turning off compiz? If so, how do I do that?
[10:22] <Sassy> Thanks Guys... dumb arsed me.... my bestie just found it for me lol!!! thanks heaps!!
[10:23] <Doc-Saintly> Hello, i'm having some sound problems on ubuntu. running 9.04, i can do the sound tests, but VLC has no audio
[10:23] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  renamed /home ?  not that.
[10:23] <Logomachist> No, /home/username
[10:23] <pengwyn> oh okay
[10:23] <pengwyn> you scared me there
[10:23] <jmarsden> Logomachist: sudo apt-get purge compiz   # will uninstall compiz if that is what you want to try
[10:24] <aaron113> ya
[10:24] <Logomachist> jmarsden: I guess?
[10:24] <pengwyn> don't guess
[10:25] <duckx0r> Logomachist, this is what I would do: log into your test account and copy the hidden folders over from your old user's account one by one and log in every time until you can reproduce the error, then you know that's the culprit folder. then you can either delete it or try to fix it
[10:25] <pengwyn> dux0r = spot on
[10:26] <pengwyn> is it a missing symbolic link?
[10:27] <duckx0r> Logomachist, also, have you checked your log files? they might say something about what's going on
[10:28] <pengwyn> xorg.conf's are fun to make now
[10:28] <macs> hai guys
[10:28] <macs> I am new to IRC ....
[10:28] <Logomachist> duckx0r: Have not checked log files. That's a good idea. Where would these log files be stored?
[10:28] <duckx0r> Logo /var/log
[10:28] <pengwyn>  /var/log/messages
[10:28] <macs> This is the first time I am here in am IRC
[10:28] <grawity> macs: Welcome to Freenode, then
[10:29] <Logomachist> duckx0r:  kk. ::runs off to check log files::
[10:29] <macs> Thanks...
[10:29] <macs> Hai ..can you help me to register a nick name
[10:29] <S33K3R> i installed yahoo messenger.exe using wine in jaunty, but its not working. what could be wrong?
[10:30] <aaron113> S33K3R: lol never heard of a person doing that!
[10:30] <pengwyn> macs /msg nickserv help
[10:30] <duckx0r> macs, type /msg nicserv help
[10:30] <pengwyn> lol
[10:30] <duckx0r> err what pengwyn said
[10:30] <macs> type where ......
[10:30] <kandjar`> hi there; quick question: i installed ubuntu 9.04 which came with gnome; and I d like to try kde; what's the easiest way to do so?
[10:30] <macs> I amusing Pidgin
[10:30] <Doc-Saintly> kandjar`: use xubuntu
[10:31] <aaron113> i forgot my root passwd is there a way to change it
[10:31] <aaron113> ?
[10:31] <Doc-Saintly> er wait kandjar` , kubuntu
[10:31] <aaron113> :)
[10:31] <grawity> macs: Type commands in the box below - in the same box where you type messages.
[10:31] <duckx0r> kandjar`, type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <grawity> aaron113: Yes.
[10:31] <Doc-Saintly> kandjar`: ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xcfe
[10:31] <macs> :)
[10:31] <macs> Oky
[10:31] <aaron113> then grawity how
[10:31] <macs>  /msg nickserv help
[10:31] <pengwyn> pubuntu = poison box?
[10:31] <grawity> macs: Without spaces before :\
[10:31] <duckx0r> lmao
[10:32] <kandjar`> Doc-Saintly: i know that :) but i dont feel like reinstalling ubuntu :P
[10:32] <grawity> duckx0r: I see nothing funny in that.
[10:32] <grawity> kandjar`: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, like you've been told already.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis_Arch> I think they just need to make a 'ask me what window manager to install ubuntu' :)    AmwWmtIbuntu
[10:32] <duckx0r> grawity, you have no sense of humour then
[10:32] <pengwyn> grawity-  sorry
[10:32] <aaron113> grawity: how do you change ur root passwd
[10:32] <kandjar`> grawity: :) oops didnt see it :)
[10:32] <grawity> duckx0r: My sense of humor doesn't include laughing at someone who typo'd a command.
[10:32] <macs> thanks I got some help ..
[10:32] <macs> let me read it
[10:32] <kandjar`> thanks grawity, duckx0r :) i ll give it a try
[10:32] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  boot live cd and chroot over and set it.. or use rescue mode  perhaps.
[10:32] <duckx0r> grawity, mine does
[10:33] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  how did you set it the first time? root  has no password by default its 'disabled'
[10:33] <grawity> duckx0r: Yours is a strange sense of humor, then.
[10:33] <duckx0r> grawity, it's "special"
[10:33] <rek> hi,how can i use xvesa in ubuntu?
[10:33] <pengwyn> (I ain't laughing, I gave out rm's )
[10:33] <aaron113> Dr_Willis_Arch: there is no need for that
[10:33] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  no need for what?
[10:33] <pengwyn> tried to say wait though
[10:33] <aaron113> i know thereis another way for it
[10:34] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  you mean the actual 'root' users password . or the initial 'admin user' password?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis_Arch> If the admin user can still sudo , you can set other users password via sudo passwd username
[10:35] <pengwyn> I think it's in Kee-Pass
[10:35] <duckx0r> Dr_Willis_Arch, i think you can set the root password that way too
[10:35] <aaron113> Dr_Willis_Arch: no remember u type in su in a terminal and it promts the user to a passwd and now i forgot that passwd can u tell me how to change it back?
[10:35] <root> hi
[10:35] <kandjar`> duckx0r, grawity: i suppose if I want to try xcfe I should do: apt-get xubuntu-desktop? is it easy to switch between the different wm?
[10:36] <ikonia> aaron113: set the users password with sudo passwd $username
[10:36] <ortsvorsteher> !u | aaron113
[10:36] <duckx0r> kandjar`, yes very easy
[10:36] <duckx0r> kandjar`, you select them when you log in
[10:36] <kandjar`> ok :) nice :)
[10:36] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  'su -' would want the 'root' users actual password. There is no root users actual password by default.   Unless you set one.  If you set one, then need to 'reset' it - you can use one of the 3 ways i mentioned. live  cd, rescue mode, or sudo passwd username
[10:37] <pengwyn> kandjar, try poisonbox  ;o)
[10:37] <kandjar`> poisonbox?
[10:37] <duckx0r> aaron113, do you mean "su" or "sudo"?
[10:37] <aaron113> ikonia: thank you very much
[10:37] <pengwyn> oh yeah, poisonbox
[10:38] <duckx0r> pengwyn, what is poisonbox?
[10:39] <pengwyn> duckx0r-  it's a window manager . hard core
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> !info posionbox
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> :)
[10:39] <duckx0r> pengwyn, must be hard core. it doesn't even show up on the first page of google
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> !info poisonbox
[10:39] <duckx0r> lol
[10:39] <nemesis1911> how to i get my iPhone to work with Ubuntu 9.04
[10:39] <pengwyn> then look up poisonbox
[10:40] <pengwyn> It runs on somethin around here
[10:40] <duckx0r> pengwyn, that's what i searched for
[10:41] <pengwyn> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=en&hs=4WP&q=ubuntu+poisonbox+window+manager&btnG=Search
[10:41] <pengwyn> (cough)
[10:41] <ortsvorsteher> !iphone | nemesis1911
[10:41] <pengwyn> Fravia spanks ye
[10:42] <rek> Remember that since you cannot use IRQs or DMA in a user-mode program, you will probably have to write a kernel driver to use ECP/EPP; I think someone is writing such a driver         what does this mean?  i think i can open my parallel port and use it whenever i want
[10:42] <pengwyn> rat poison  poison box same thing
[10:42] <pengwyn> heh
[10:43] <TruthLiker> Hello :)
[10:43] <rek> i just need to open the port and read data
[10:43] <pengwyn> "Do it! dont like the window manager? use rat poison."
[10:43] <ikonia> pengwyn: why do you keep saying rat poison
[10:43] <TruthLiker> How do I turn on the ftp server in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <pengwyn> ikonia-  I'm sorry
[10:43] <ikonia> TruthLiker: which one did you install ?
[10:44] <TruthLiker> checking...
[10:44] <nemesis1911> if anyone has a iPhone here and need it to work with Ubuntu 9.04 i found the page that explains it http://ivkin.net/2009/04/synching-iphone-over-usb-under-ubuntu/comment-page-1/
[10:44] <pengwyn> duX0r was askin
[10:45] <pengwyn> I spelled it like an -F
[10:45] <ikonia> nemesis1911: if you had that page - why did you ask how to do it?
[10:45] <nemesis1911> i just found it
[10:45] <ManDay> Installing mini-ubuntu what hostname should i specify as the source for downloading ubuntu?
[10:45] <ikonia> nemesis1911: then don't recommend it until you know it works
[10:45] <ikonia> ManDay: mini-ubuntu ?
[10:45] <nemesis1911> k
[10:45] <nemesis1911> sorry
[10:45] <duckx0r> pengwyn, i was asking the same thing lol
[10:46] <ManDay> ikonia, mini install
[10:46] <brijith> hai I am using Pidgin 2.6.1 on ubuntu 8.04, From some where I heard that latest version of pidgin support voice and video chats ......
[10:46] <ikonia> ManDay: pick any repo you want then, I assume you mean the minimal install
[10:46] <ikonia> !minimal | ManDay
[10:46] <TruthLiker> ikonia: Looks like I don't have any server installed which explains I why I could not find a setting for activating it. :\
[10:46] <CharelB> !grub
[10:46] <twright> brjith: I am not sure it is in ppa versions
[10:46] <ManDay> ikonia, there is nothing to pick from.
[10:46] <ikonia> TruthLiker: didn't think so, one is not installed by default
[10:46] <guilro> brijith: you must know it doesn't work for msn
[10:46] <ManDay> it just promts me to enter a hostname, ikonia
[10:46] <duckx0r> brijith, as far as i know it's only supported in 9.10 or later but it may work if you compile it yourself
[10:46] <DJ-Nomad> if anyone finds a page telling how to make a lg rumor's memory card accessible via bluetooth or usb cable hook me up
[10:46] <ikonia> ManDay: yes, so pick a repo hostname
[10:47] <ikonia> ManDay: check out the url ubottu just sent you
[10:47] <rek> hei??
[10:47] <duckx0r> brijith, also, it's not available for msn yet
[10:47] <ManDay> ikonia, there are only downloads there
[10:47] <ManDay> i dont know the hostname i should enter
[10:47] <pengwyn> net install is the best
[10:47] <twright> birjith: It is coming in karmic anyway with the switch to empathy
[10:48] <rek> how can i use xvesa in ubuntu
[10:48] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what to enter there?
[10:48] <ikonia> ManDay: you need to pick a repo off the web
[10:48] <ManDay> ikonia, where FROM? www.ubuntu.com is down
[10:48] <ManDay> i dont know where to find one
[10:48] <twright> birjith: empathy in the repos should support video
[10:49] <duckx0r> ManDay, www.ubuntu.com is working fine for me
[10:49] <ikonia> ManDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[10:49] <ManDay> ok, can you give me a valid hostname for a repo then?
[10:49] <ManDay> thankls
[10:50] <duckx0r> ManDay, how can a repo have a hostname?
[10:50] <pengwyn> manday I start with proxy.org
[10:50] <ManDay> ikonia, that page you gave me is more or less useless
[10:50] <ManDay> it describes activating sources in ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> ManDay: no it's not
[10:50] <ikonia> pengwyn: proxy.org is not an repo
[10:50] <Logo2> This is Logomachist logging in from the affected computer. I checked var/log/messages and it doesn't have anything older than a day ago, so I can't compare what it looked like before the problems started to what it's looking like now. Even so I don't see anything suspicious. In case any of you wanted to take a look at it, if you want. Give me an email addy and I'll email it to you.
[10:50] <pengwyn> lemme look what mine is ManDay, I know ikonia .  Shush
[10:51] <ManDay> thanks pengwyn
[10:51] <Logo2> (For some reason I can't get pastebin working)
[10:51] <ManDay> i ONLY need the hostname though!i
[10:51] <ManDay> it only asks me for a hostname
[10:51] <ikonia> ManDay: there are many repo's on the web, you can see some listed in the exmaple page I gave you
[10:52] <ManDay> [!!] Choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive    :    Please enter the hostname of the mirror from which Ubuntu will be downloaded.   An alternat port can be specified using the standard [hostname]:[port] format.    Ubuntu archive mirror hostname: ________
[10:52] <duckx0r> Logo2, did you try copying over the hidden files from your user's home directory into a working test directory one at a time until you can reproduce the error?
[10:52] <ManDay> !repository
[10:52] <ikonia> ManDay: any if you look in the exmaple images you'll see archive.ubuntyu.com ftp.ticklers.org mirror.ox.ack.uk, ubuntu-archive.datashop.it
[10:53] <Logo2> DuckxOr, not that would be what I'd try next.
[10:53] <aaron113> how di i put a fourm in http://ubuntufourm.org/
[10:53] <ManDay> urgh, images, okay ikonia you are right
[10:53] <aaron113> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:53] <Logo2> duckxOr: unless someone else had a better idea.
[10:53] <pengwyn> ManDay, still ubuntu.com here crap..  I seen some .de's
[10:54] <duckx0r> Logo2, the only other thing I could think of is renaming your configuration folders, which is essentially the same thing
[10:54] <Logo2> duckxOr: Well I'll go try that. Wish me luck.
[10:54] <duckx0r> Logo2, also keep in mind that if you copy the folders over to the other account that the permissions are changed to the test user's as well
[10:55] <aaron113> how do i add a fourm in ubuntufourm
[10:55] <ikonia> aaron113: add a forum ?
[10:55] <duckx0r> aaron113, you mean start a topic?
[10:55] <aaron113> duckx0r: yes
[10:55] <duckx0r> aaron113, are you logged in?
[10:55] <aaron113> yes linuxbrother11
[10:55] <ikonia> aaron113: ubuntu forum support is in the channel #ubuntuforums
[10:56] <ManDay> one big pita, one would assume that ubuntu after all has it somewhere documented like "list of repositories", but no...
[10:56] <DJ-Nomad> anyone know how to switch my default sound to use my external usb soundblaster instead of my intel?
[10:56] <ikonia> ManDay: there are many lists on the web, and as ubuntu doesn't maintain the mirrors it doesn't know about them
[10:56] <ManDay> ikonia, they could at least present their OWN mirrors...
[10:56] <duckx0r> DJ-Nomad, i know this isn't a great fix, but i had a similar problem a long time ago and i just disabled the onboard sound directly from the bios and everything worked extremely well after that
[10:56] <ikonia> ManDay: it's on ubuntu.com - that's it own mirror
[10:57] <pengwyn> I still looking ManDay
[10:57] <DJ-Nomad> duckx0r,  that might be the best option
[10:57] <ManDay> ikonia, then tell me word for word: what do i have to enter at "hostname" and what to enter at "directory"!
[10:57] <ikonia> ManDay: gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <DJ-Nomad> cause I do not need it for anything
[10:57] <pengwyn> ikonia-  wins
[10:57] <ikonia> ManDay: there is the british archive for you
[10:58] <ManDay> whats the path to the repo there?
[10:58] <pengwyn> it's still ubuntu.com
[10:58] <ManDay> i also need to enter a directory!
[10:58] <ikonia> ManDay: /ubuntu
[10:58] <pengwyn> yeah
[10:58] <pengwyn> heh
[10:58] <ManDay> finally!
[10:58] <ManDay> thanks
[10:58] <ikonia> ManDay: you need to start searching the web for the right information, the point of the minimal CD is to know all this in advance
[10:58] <[Spooky]> Can i have moving images as a wallpaper in 9.04?
[10:59] <pengwyn> iso into a virtualmachine is nice
[10:59] <unimatrix> why does compiz.real constantly use 3% of my CPU even when i'm not doing anything?
[10:59] <ikonia> unimatrix: it's a process - it needs cpu to you and just draw the screen
[10:59] <ikonia> [Spooky]: there is a trick to do this, but it's quite a resource hog
[10:59] <ikonia> [Spooky]: you can even do it with a movie file
[11:00] <duckx0r> ewww a movie file as a desktop wallpaper?
[11:00] <unimatrix> ikonia, well i'm sorry but even Vista's Aero doesn't require so much CPU
[11:00] <ikonia> unimatrix: the window manager for windows it broke down differently so you can't compare like that
[11:00] <ikonia> unimatrix: disable it if you don't like it
[11:01] <unimatrix> ikonia, i need it because without it even moving a window will cause the CPU to spike up to 99%
[11:01] <[Spooky]> ikonia: Yes i know VLC have that option...
[11:01] <ikonia> [Spooky]: you can do it without vlc, I'm trying to find it, I've done it before but it's a real hog
[11:01] <edenroz> hello am installing UNR on a eeepc901 but during installation mouse dont work
[11:02] <ikonia> unimatrix: it sounds like your video card is not setup correctly
[11:02] <twright> ultimatrix: aero does use more cpu in the names of other processes
[11:02] <duckx0r> unimatrix, sounds like something is wrong if you are using 99% of your cpu just to move a window
[11:02] <unimatrix> ikonia, trust me, it is
[11:02] <[Spooky]> ikonia: Hehe ok.. ;) Fun to try out...
[11:02] <ikonia> unimatrix: I doubt that very much
[11:02] <twright> ultimatrix: you probably need proper drivers
[11:02] <ikonia> [Spooky]: it was a very obscure method, tweking fbset etc etc, I'm sure I had a note on it
[11:02] <unimatrix> ikonia, unless ubuntu doesn't know how to install nvidia's drivers, it's set up correctly
[11:03] <ManDay> ikonia, no it doesnt work
[11:03] <ikonia> unimatrix: it can go wrong, it can select the wrong options
[11:03] <duckx0r> unimatrix, did you restart your x server after you installed them?
[11:03] <ManDay> thats not the right directody
[11:03] <ManDay> *directory
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> I still can't get sound to work on my install. I'm open to just about anything now, i've tried all the stuff i could find on the forums
[11:03] <unimatrix> ikonia, it's been like this for years
[11:03] <ikonia> ManDay: that is the correct hostname and directory, you can even see it at http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> I think it has to do with it selecting the OSS sound instead of ALSA for my hdmi connection
[11:03] <duckx0r> unimatrix, maybe it's time to upgrade that many years old card then?
[11:03] <ManDay> my bad
[11:03] <ManDay> sorry ikonia
[11:03] <unimatrix> ikonia, and i've reinstalled everything countless times... it's more likely that nvidia's drivers suck
[11:03] <ikonia> ManDay: try setting your hostname to http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and your directory to jaunty
[11:04] <ikonia> unimatrix: what card is it ?
[11:04] <unimatrix> ikonia, GeForce 6600
[11:04] <twright> ultimatrix, can you post your fps results from planet penguin racer
[11:04] <dyf> hello.. is there a way to get a pre-compiled version of audacity 1.3.9 beta?
[11:04] <duckx0r> 6600 isn't going to handle compiz very well
[11:04] <unimatrix> duckx0r, why?
[11:04] <ikonia> unimatrix: I've had very good results with that in the past
[11:05] <duckx0r> isn't that card like 5 years old now?
[11:05] <ikonia> yes
[11:05] <ikonia> but that's still fine
[11:05] <duckx0r> ok
[11:05] <dyf> 6600 should be able to handle compiz
[11:05] <guilro> duckx0r: i got an ati X200 integrated card and compiz work very well --_--
[11:05] <Subdolus> I'm having dramas while trying to use two wifi cards on two seperate access points at the same time. I need to learn how to route in/out through specific interfaces (wlan0 and wlan1)
[11:05] <twright> ultimatrix, the nvidia drivers are usually excellent - which version are you using
[11:05] <Subdolus> any tips or reading suggestions? I can't really 'explain' what I'm trying to acheive
[11:06] <unimatrix> ikonia, by "very well" you mean it's normal for compiz and Xorg to use 10% of the CPU?
[11:06] <Subdolus> all I want to use wlan0 for is to accept VNC connections for remote control
[11:06] <Subdolus> everything else I want through wlan1
[11:06] <twright> ultimatrix, it is for xorg
[11:06] <Subdolus> I'm dying here :<
[11:06] <unimatrix> twright, well then it sucks
[11:06] <Doc-Saintly> Subdolus: you could create a firewall rule or changeroute tables
[11:06] <ikonia> unimatrix: compiz I don't know as I don't think I ever used a 6600 with compiz, but with a native xorg config - worked fantastic
[11:07] <twright> unimatrix, well does it feel slow? Stats alone are not that much help.
[11:07] <happy> Õż¦Õ«ČÕźĮ
[11:07] <Subdolus> Doc-Saintly: I can? So using nm-applet to connect to one, then the other on the other interface is correct? then figure out iptables?
[11:08] <mue> õĮĀÕźĮ
[11:08] <unimatrix> twright, it sometimes feels slow with scrolling, like in rhythmbox or with longer web pages
[11:08] <happy> µ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹÕ░▒ÕźĮ
[11:08] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | happy
[11:08] <twright> unimatrix, that is probably just a bit of firefox issues
[11:08] <unimatrix> twright, happens in all browsers
[11:09] <ikonia> unimatrix: can you find out what nvidia package you have active please ?
[11:09] <guilro> Subdolus: I don't know at all if http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ can handle what you want to do ?
[11:09] <twright> unimatrix, do the slow pages usually have flash on
[11:09] <unimatrix> twright, not necessarily
[11:09] <Subdolus> guilro: sadly no
[11:09] <twright> unimatrix, it is a lot faster for me with flash block anyway
[11:09] <Subdolus> guilro: it's an excellent tool, but can't configure two interfaces like nm-applet
[11:10] <unimatrix> ikonia, 185.18.36, but it's been like this since 166 or probably even earlier
[11:10] <ikonia> unimatrix: do you fancy doing a test - it's not 2 minutes, but I'd be interested in knowing the results ?
[11:10] <unimatrix> ikonia, yes, i'd love to
[11:10] <guilro> Subdolus: ok =) I have actually never used wicd
[11:10] <kholzer> Anyone in here know math really well?
[11:11] <minche> hello
[11:11] <ikonia> unimatrix: first disable compiz - as it won't work with the test. Then in your /etx/X11/xorg.conf change the line "Driver "Nvidia" " to "Driver "nv" "
[11:11] <duckx0r> kholzer, i might know
[11:11] <ikonia> unimatrix: reboot and see how your generic experience is
[11:11] <guilro> kholzer: what do you mean by very well ?
[11:11] <Subdolus> guilro: it is very nice. I hear alot of talk about being suggesting it should be the standard for Ubuntu installs
[11:11] <twright> kholzer, I hope I am quite good :-)
[11:11] <unimatrix> twright, even faceboook will be enough... grab the scroll and move it up and down really fast... you will notice it lag a little behind the mouse cursor
[11:11] <aaron113> PLEASE VIEW http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7936589#post7936589
[11:11] <minche> how do i fix "null output (pulseaudio mixer)" error
[11:11] <minche> please
[11:11] <kholzer> Lets talk more in #ubutntu-offtopic....
[11:11] <kholzer> Wrong channel.  But I've got a programming question to do with math...
[11:11] <unimatrix> ikonia, ok in a few minutes
[11:12] <twright> unimatrix, facebook has hidden flash
[11:12] <Tuxist> hi
[11:12] <twright> unimatrix, with the ads it can be really slow sometimes
[11:12] <unimatrix> twright, ok fine, slashdot with adblock is the same
[11:12] <ikonia> unimatrix: don't worry - I'm not suggesting you use this setting for ever, just curious in the results
[11:12] <twright> kholzer, ok
[11:12] <duckx0r> facebook runs slow for me on a fast computer and a good video card sometimes
[11:13] <Tuxist> i have trouble with network-manager and script how can i do that the script wait for network-manager is given a ip via dhcp
[11:13] <unimatrix> ikonia, i know
[11:13] <unimatrix> twright, even if it was flash, that doesn't explain why it happens in rhythmbox too
[11:14] <twright> unimatix, well rhythmbox uses a really slow scrolling widget
[11:14] <duckx0r> unimatrix, how many fps does glxgears give you?
[11:14] <twright> unimatrix, how much music do you have
[11:14] <unimatrix> duckx0r, about 4k per 5 secs
[11:14] <twright> duckx0r, glxgears  is no benchmark
[11:14] <duckx0r> twright, it is a rough estimate
[11:15] <happy> µ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹÕÉŚ?
[11:15] <happy> ÕłÜµēŹõĖŹµś»µ£ēõ║║ÕÆīµłæĶ»┤Ķ»ØÕÉŚ
[11:15] <unimatrix> twright, i have an extensive collection, but why should that matter? it shouldn't work any slower
[11:15] <brokenice> bs happy
[11:15] <twright> duckx0r, not it is not - it is just a microbenchmark of one non representative operation
[11:15] <kholzer> duckx0r: do you know diabx0r?
[11:16] <duckx0r> kholzer, no
[11:16] <kholzer> duckx0r: okay, nevermind ;[
[11:16] <happy> µ£ēµ▓Īµ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║Õśø?
[11:16] <twright> unimatrix, more items = slower scrolling
[11:16] <ikonia> happy: this channel is english only
[11:16] <jcfp> !cn | happy
[11:16] <unimatrix> twright, never happened in winamp, no matter how many songs i had
[11:16] <happy> OK
[11:16] <apparle> how to solve this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269684/
[11:16] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04
[11:17] <happy> µłæń£ŗµ£ēµ▓Īµ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹ
[11:17] <happy> µ£ēńÜäĶ»ØÕŖĀµłæÕō”
[11:17] <twright> unimatrix, well winamp is really fast
[11:18] <unimatrix> twright, that's damn right :P
[11:18] <erUSUL> !cn | happy
[11:18] <ikonia> apparle: the url should be http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  not http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <unimatrix> twright, i'm gonna try amarok.. i suspect GTK got really slow over time
[11:19] <duckx0r> unimatrix, if you disable compiz does the scrolling speed up?
[11:19] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04
[11:19] <unimatrix> duckx0r, only a little bit
[11:19] <apparle> ikonia: but as you can see in the 2nd line.........link is alright.....with /ubuntu/
[11:20] <ikonia> apparle: change the first line
[11:20] <duckx0r> unimatrix, but weren't you complaining that enabling compiz made your computer slow?
[11:20] <rek> hei help damn
[11:20] <minche> my sound device isn't recognized
[11:20] <ikonia> rek: clam down, ask a clear question
[11:20] <minche> can anyone help me
[11:21] <ikonia> calm
[11:21] <unimatrix> duckx0r, it makes it slowER :)
[11:21] <rek> already said
[11:21] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | minche
[11:21] <ikonia> rek: I didn't see it
[11:21] <apparle> ikonia: this is my current sources.list http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269686/ is there any problem
[11:21] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04 what can we do.... it's ages i keep reporting this problem!!!
[11:21] <Smooch1502> Hi
[11:21] <aaron113> landscape!
[11:21] <ikonia> apparle: that looks ok - try "sudo apt-get update "see what you get
[11:21] <aaron113> !landscape
[11:22] <ikonia> rek: can you define "doesn't work" please
[11:22] <Smooch1502> !server
[11:22] <twright> unimatrix, amarok will be even slower as it loads kde stuff as well as gnome :-)
[11:22] <apparle> ikonia: same error
[11:22] <unimatrix> twright, it only uses kde stuff though
[11:22] <rek> ikonia, u install it and then u don't see any damn legacy driver in use in system administration
[11:22] <racha> can any1 help me with pulseaudio ?
[11:22] <ikonia> apparle: ok - can you please try "ping in.archive.ubuntu.com"
[11:23] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | racha
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: calm down
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: how have you been installing it ?
[11:23] <rek> what can we do.... via apt-get!!
[11:23] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :)
[11:23] <Smooch1502> rek: This is the program installer eg: use apt-get install programname
[11:23] <unimatrix> racha, what seems to be the problem
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers menu, what do you se
[11:24] <ikonia> see
[11:24] <ortsvorsteher> !details | racha
[11:24] <rek> now i must use win xp but i need to use ubuntu!but i can't because my machine crashes every time without that driver!
[11:24] <racha> unimatrix: i need to change my output Jack's ... to work like http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:24] <apparle> ikonia: I am able to get everything else from in.archive.ubuntu.com except universe packages
[11:24] <rek> cannot use ubuntu now!my machine crashes....without that driver however i didn't see anything......
[11:24] <rek> ikonia, in 8.04 all was fine and easy
[11:24] <duckx0r> rek, have you tried using a default xorg.conf file?
[11:25] <ikonia> apparle: look at line 4 in your sources.list - it's different
[11:25] <Smooch1502> Should i install ubuntu karmic koala beta?
[11:25] <rek> what default???
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: answer my question
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers - what do you see
[11:25] <ikonia> Smooch1502: no
[11:25] <rek> ikonia, already answered i didn't see any drivers in use
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: what do you actually see - does it offer any drivers up ?
[11:25] <rek> ikonia, blank! i saw blank any drivers
[11:25] <Smooch1502> ikonia: Ok thanks
[11:25] <rek> ANY
[11:25] <Tuxist> i such as NETWORKWAIT=yes in fedora
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: what video card do you have ?
[11:25] <duckx0r> rek, are you using an old ati card?
[11:26] <rek> Nvidia gts 2 ikonia  perfect for those pacages
[11:26] <brundisium62> ciao
[11:26] <brundisium62> !list
[11:26] <ikonia> rek: please pastebin the output of "lspci"
[11:26] <the_madman> OK, so I found some strange anomolies in Ubuntu's firefox packages...
[11:26] <rek> ikonia, u know i'm running win xp
[11:26] <rek> cannot use ubuntu
[11:26] <Doc-Saintly> are there non-strange anomolies the_madman ?
[11:26] <ikonia> rek: I didn't know you where running XP
[11:27] <twright> unimatrix, If you are running kde it should be fine but otherwise 2 loads of libraries are loaded
[11:27] <rek> i told u my machine crashes without that driver ikonia
[11:27] <ikonia> rek: boot into "recovery mode" in ubuntu and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line Driver "nvidia" to Driver "vesa" and we can debug it
[11:27] <apparle> ikonia: Oh.....actually I tried to get the universe component from archive.ubuntu.com.........I can't get universe lists from in.archive.ubuntu.com,archive.ubuntu.com,us.archive.ubuntu.com.........tried all of them
[11:27] <frogzoo1> Doc-Saintly: I'd say most
[11:27] <the_madman> 1. the firefox-3.5 package actually installs an unbranded version called, "shiretoko". I wouldn't have a problem with this, but Facebook doesn't recognize it.
[11:27] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:27] <unimatrix> twright, so it's gonna use more ram, but is't not like it's going to be doing any converting or anything right?
[11:27] <ikonia> apparle: can you please try to ping it
[11:27] <rek> ikonia, good idea
[11:28] <rek> ikonia, what will happen if i use vesa?
[11:28] <TruthLiker> Is there a way to use the old commandline ftp to get a while directory with all subs ?
[11:28] <diy> kann wer mir helfen mit meiner grafik karte
[11:28] <apparle> ikonia: Actaully I am behind a proxy....so I know ping will not work
[11:28] <ikonia> rek: your performance will be downgraded but it will be stable for debugging
[11:29] <ikonia> !de > diy
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: then I suggest the problem is with your proxy
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: try telneting to port 80 on the arhive
[11:29] <rek> cool cool... i'll give it a try
[11:29] <ikonia> archive
[11:29] <Subdolus> TruthLiker: wget?
[11:29] <the_madman> 2. Abrowser-3.5 is, again, unbranded as expected, but for some reason it depends on firefox 3.0, which IS actually branded.
[11:29] <the_madman> Is this actually a problem with the packages, or is it likely a problem with my set-up?
[11:29] <rek> however ikonia why don't they fix this stupid problem???
[11:29] <apparle> ikonia: how to do that
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: telnet $hostname 80
[11:30] <TruthLiker> wget, thats for getting webpages not ?
[11:30] <the_madman> Doc-Saintly: Well, OK, so I guess there ARE only strange anomolies...
[11:30] <rek> i could install debian or dreamlinux though
[11:30] <TruthLiker> I am stuck with manual ftp to get a directory via ftp.
[11:30] <Smooch1502> TruthLiker: wget can be used to download just about anything
[11:30] <ikonia> rek: it's not a stupid problem - it could be a user error, hence why I'm tyring to debug it with you
[11:30] <TruthLiker> can wget connect to a ftp server ?
[11:30] <Subdolus> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=commandline+Recursive+FTP
[11:30] <ikonia> rek: stop ranting about it and lets work it through
[11:30] <Subdolus> Enjoy.
[11:30] <rek> ikonia thx
[11:31] <twright> unimatrix, the best way to find out is by trying in any case
[11:31] <rek> ok ikonia but what user error if 8.04 was perfect???
[11:31] <apparle> ikonia: and which server should I telnet.....
[11:31] <duckx0r> rek, ikonia is just trying to help you
[11:31] <ikonia> apparle: the one that's not working
[11:31] <TruthLiker> oh now, I must close this connection.
[11:31] <ikonia> rek: STOP telling me about other situations, lets debug it - or not
[11:32] <maniel> hi
[11:32] <Smooch1502> rek: Please tell us in full
[11:32] <rek> ok ikonia  good idea
[11:32] <rek> what in full Smooch1502 =
[11:32] <apparle> ikonia: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:32] <maniel> is there any way to setup ipv6 tunnel via tunnel broker in networkmanager?
[11:33] <ikonia> apparle: ok - so either that host is down (which it doens't look like it is) or you're network/proxy is a problem
[11:33] <Smooch1502> rek: i mean like explain more information about your problem as everyone on this channel is just trying to help
[11:34] <unimatrix> twright, ok you're right, scrolling in amarok isn't any better; guess i have to install KDE
[11:37] <Smooch1502> sorry for asking this but if you see this please say so as i think my internet connection just broke
[11:37] <bazhang> Smooch1502, you're ok
[11:37] <Smooch1502> bazhang: ok just hardly anyone is talking
[11:38] <kandjar`> so
[11:38] <argos_> hi
[11:38] <Smooch1502> lol
[11:39] <Jorsher> has anyone here set up wtorrent/rtorrent for multiple users?
[11:39] <rek> the problem is even if u install propietary drivers for my nvidia gts 2 you don't see anything in nsystem administration...
[11:39] <Smooch1502> rek: have you tried restarting your computer?
[11:39] <rek> of course!!
[11:39] <ikonia> rek: I've told you what to do
[11:40] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:40] <brijith> Is any one interested in talking about windows games in ubuntu
[11:40] <rek> are u debugging ikonia
[11:40] <Doc-Saintly> .win close
[11:40] <rek> debug debug
[11:40] <TruthLiker> Hello .
[11:40] <duckx0r> rek, did you use the vesa driver?
[11:40] <rek> no
[11:40] <rek> must install ubuntu first
[11:40] <TruthLiker> I see wget can get via ftp, however how can I get it to log in ? Its not an anonymous retrieval.
[11:41] <Smooch1502> rek: when we say debug usualy someone will tell you to try a command etc and you need to send us the output
[11:41] <rek> i was angry so i unistalled it
[11:41] <twright> unimatix, or you could try some other gnome options
[11:41] <duckx0r> rek, we were trying to help you
[11:41] <Smooch1502> rek: so you have uninstalled (Reformated) and now just have windows? im confused?
[11:41] <rek> ah
[11:42] <minche> please, can anyone tell me how to get rid of this "null output" pulseaudio
[11:42] <rek> yep now i have win xp
[11:42] <twright> unimatrix, banshee is quite good but not completely lagless
[11:42] <rek> but i need to open the parallel port i need ubuntu
[11:42] <Smooch1502> minche: Everyone here is trying to help, please do not repeat your question so often, if anyone finds an answer he/she will tell you
[11:42] <bazhang> rek, without an installation there is no way to troubleshoot
[11:42] <rek> i know
[11:42] <unimatrix> twright, banshee eats up too much CPU just to run
[11:42] <rek> hello bazhang u are always here to help?
[11:43] <minche> yeah, but i come here day after day and still no help
[11:43] <bazhang> rek, if you wish to get support here you should have an installation.
[11:43] <rek> but what did they change between 8.04 and 9.04
[11:43] <Smooch1502> rek: did you have the problem then you uninstalled ubuntu?
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: stop now
[11:43] <rek> no...
[11:43] <Smooch1502> minche: have you tried the forums? at http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: I've explained how to to debug this and take it forward
[11:43] <rek> ikonia, what stop why?
[11:43] <nik_> Let's talk about girls. ^^
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: if you don't chose to do that - stop discussing it and ranting about it
[11:43] <rek> i will do it
[11:44] <duckx0r> minche, why do you need to disable it?
[11:44] <bazhang> nik_, wrong channel
[11:44] <Smooch1502> rek try the forums also
[11:44] <rek> i'm not ranting i'm explaining
[11:44] <Smooch1502> if no one can help on here then you may get a response on the forums
[11:44] <ikonia> rek: no, I assure you, you won't. We can help you debug this is you want to work it through, but stop saying the same thing over and over again
[11:44] <Subdolus> NOISES
[11:44] <minche> diasble what?
[11:44] <nik_> ok, ok )) I,m jst kidding.
[11:44] <Subdolus> rahhh
[11:44] <rek> no..i'm working hard
[11:44] <minche> i tried eevrything
[11:45] <ikonia> rek: then we can't help if you don't want to debug it at this time
[11:45] <minche> adding user to the group, adding those lines at the end of pulse-audio.conf...
[11:45] <SeaOrifice> Does ubuntu support a dailup connection ?
[11:45] <SeaOrifice> oops dial up
[11:45] <ikonia> SeaOrifice: it does if your modem is supported
[11:45] <Smooch1502> SeaOrifce: the support is low but some modems are supported
[11:45] <rek> i must install ubuntu first!!!
[11:45] <Smooch1502> rek: Re install ubuntu then we can help you
[11:45] <ikonia> rek: ok, then we can't debug it
[11:45] <bazhang> rek, then do so, and come back when you have it
[11:46] <rek> karmic or jaunty?
[11:46] <Smooch1502> rek: Jaunty
[11:46] <ikonia> rek: jaunty is supported
[11:46] <bazhang> rek, jaunty as karmic is not released.
[11:46] <rek> i have karmic on a cd lol
[11:46] <ikonia> rek: that is not supported
[11:47] <Smooch1502> rek: Karmic is in beta and i strongly suggest not to use it unless you know how to fix problems if anything goes wrong
[11:47] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:47] <Dan48p> you guys ever reinstalled windows in a dual boot system without disrupting the linux side?
[11:47] <rek> is i change DE i'm not able to automount for example an usb why ?
[11:47] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Yes
[11:47] <ikonia> rek: install ubuntu and we can help you debug
[11:48] <duckx0r> Dan48p, windows overwrites your MBR so you have to reinstall grub, but it's not too difficult to do that from a live cd
[11:48] <rek> ubuntu is meant to run with gnome
[11:48] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[11:48] <ikonia> rek: it does
[11:48] <Guest97548> could anyone recommend anywhere to find learning material on linux for those who are interested in learning more skills aimed at becoming a unix/linux professional?
[11:48] <rek> if i use kde or fluxbox i have automunt issues why
[11:48] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: any tricks?  i have a vista partition and a recovery partition that i can use to reinstall a diff version of windows
[11:48] <ikonia> Guest97548: that's offtopic for this channel, there are pleanty of resource issues on the web
[11:48] <ikonia> rek: install ubuntu and we can help you debug it
[11:48] <leaf-sheep> Guest97548: For starters, stick with Ubuntu and Google "Ubuntu Pocket Book"
[11:48] <Guest97548> ikonia: any hints on where to look?
[11:49] <leaf-sheep> Guest97548: It's free and available on PDF.
[11:49] <ikonia> Guest97548: the internet - it's offtopic for this channel
[11:49] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: do want to install ubuntu and vista again? side by side
[11:49] <rek> i'm talking about my secon issue
[11:49] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: didn't mean to hit return.  those are the partitions i would like to rewrite, but leave the ubuntu where its at
[11:49] <ikonia> rek: yes, but we can't debug without information and you don't have ubuntu installed
[11:49] <Guest97548> thx
[11:49] <rek> ok
[11:49] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: so you have ubuntu and vista already installed?
[11:49] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: yes
[11:50] <rek> i have only a few second to change that value though
[11:50] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: at the grub prompt can you boot into windows vista?
[11:50] <duckx0r> Dan48p, you can try gparted if you want to repartition/format or whatever if that's what you mean
[11:50] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:50] <rek> then my pc will crash and i must press the reset button
[11:50] <ikonia> rek: I've told you what to do to stop that
[11:50] <Guest97548> how can i tell what graphics drivers im using
[11:50] <rek> i'm explaying u my issue
[11:50] <erUSUL> Guest97548: look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:50] <ikonia> rek: yes, and I've told you what to do to stop that
[11:50] <duckx0r> rek, you've explained it at least 6-7 times now
[11:50] <rek> ok
[11:50] <Smooch1502> rek: please stop and install ubuntu again if not already installed
[11:51] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: i can boot into vista if i change the bios from ide mode to the other option
[11:51] <Dan48p> achi or ahci?
[11:51] <erUSUL> ahci
[11:51] <ivenkys> gents - i am attempting to install Ubuntu's font libraries - does anyone know if the bytecode interpreter in the freetype library is enabled or disabled in Ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> ivenkys: I think it's enabled
[11:51] <ikonia> ivenkys: not %100 though
[11:52] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Sorry but i cannot help with this however if you wanted to re install and overright the windows partition the use gparted or just reinstall vista from the install disc?
[11:52] <ivenkys> ikonia: hmm - thanks -
[11:52] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: basically i want to install windows 7 on the vista partition
[11:52] <duckx0r> Dan48p, use gparted to format that partition then and just install it like normal
[11:53] <duckx0r> Dan48p, make sure you select the correct partition
[11:53] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: not the rc, the oem copy i guess... what they have at msdnaa
[11:53] <erUSUL> Dan48p: we can not help installing a windows OS. ask in ##windows
[11:53] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Ok well insert the iso you burnt with windows 7 and install that on the vista partition however you will loose whats on that partition
[11:53] <Guest97548> wow that file is full of info. im on radeon and i want to know if im using fglrx or the open source driver, how can i tell?
[11:53] <blip-> hi all,  I just installed 9.04 and then went on to look for skype in the repos... I installed something called Skype-MID...  it looks very strange as if it's made for some touchscreen platform.  Are we desktop users meant to use this ?   or install the normal version from skype.com  ?     thanks
[11:53] <Preben> hi guys, does anyone know how to autostart programs on diffrent workspaces? Like Firefox on workspace 2 and terminal on workspace 3
[11:53] <twright> Guest97548, check the command glxinfo
[11:53] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: i'm not really concerned about the vista partition really... i just want to make sure that i don't do anything to damage the linux partitions
[11:54] <duckx0r> Guest97548, type fglrxinfo in a terminal
[11:54] <twright> what is the sgi vender string?
[11:54] <Smooch1502> Dan48p Or use virtualbox and just install windows 7 on that, sorry but i cannot help with windows as this is a ubuntu channel
[11:54] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: ok
[11:54] <rek> are u sure if i use vesa it will work?
[11:54] <rek> and what resolution?
[11:54] <leaf-sheep> Preben: devilspie
[11:54] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: i suggest virtualbox with windows 7 as windows 7 is still in rc and may contain bugs or wreck your system
[11:54] <erUSUL> blip-: skype is aviable in medibuntu
[11:54] <erUSUL> !medibuntu > blip-
[11:55] <Guest97548> duckx0r: it says its not installed
[11:55] <Preben> leaf-sheep thank you
[11:55] <dvrcoder> hi all
[11:55] <Guest97548> i guess that means im on the open source driver then?
[11:55] <ikonia> rek: it will down grade your graphics ability but should also a usable platform for debugging
[11:55] <ManDay> "linux-generic" "linux-image-..." "linux-368" "linux-image-2.6.28" <------ which of these kernels should i pick when installing ubuntu?!?
[11:55] <leaf-sheep> !skype > blip-
[11:55] <blip-> erUSUL: ah ok got it.  thanks.   is anything wrong with Skype-Mid btw ?
[11:55] <twright> Smooch1502, everyone recommends vbox too much particularly seeing as most people use windows for gaming
[11:55] <erUSUL> ManDay: linux-image or linux-generic
[11:55] <ikonia> ManDay: they are all the same
[11:55] <duckx0r> Guest97548, looks like it
[11:55] <erUSUL> blip-: dunno; do not use either of them
[11:55] <rek> is that called xvesa? no no but i know i have to use it
[11:56] <ManDay> what is the difference erUSUL ?
[11:56] <rek> for example in puppy it worked
[11:56] <ikonia> rek: no - it's called vesa as I have said to you 3 times now
[11:56] <ferdek> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:56] <Smooch1502> twight: i use my older computer for these type of problems
[11:56] <ManDay> ikonia, why would they offer the same kernel by a dozen names?
[11:56] <minche> and when i rund aplay -s i get "no soundcards found..."
[11:56] <rek> how can i use xvesa?
[11:56] <Guest97548> duckx0r: but wasnt ati supposed to have released a new closed driver for the later radeon cards? how can i try out that one?
[11:56] <dvrcoder> i have a problem: during upgrade from gutsy to hardy the dpkg-configure can't finish its work because gettext-pl is missing
[11:56] <twright> Smooch1502, much easier to dual boot (Win7 is less likely to hose a system than vista in any case)
[11:56] <ikonia> ferret_: what is that called
[11:56] <ikonia> rek: use vesa !
[11:56] <duckx0r> Guest97548, type "radeon driver linux" into google
[11:56] <ikonia> ferret_: sorry
[11:56] <rek> ok but if i don't want xorg
[11:56] <erUSUL> ManDay: none as ikonia points-out. but those are the metapackages that will point allways to the last relesed kernel and avoid cluttering the grub menu
[11:56] <dvrcoder> dpkg-gettext.pl
[11:56] <rek> how can i use xvesa?
[11:56] <Smooch1502> twight: Yes i guess but he wanted to make sure he didnt loose anything
[11:57] <dvrcoder> can i fix this?
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: enough now I am starting to think you are trolling
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: if you want to debug your problem, follow instructions and we'll work it through
[11:57] <rek> ikonia stop i've asked a question
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: you need to install ubuntu
[11:57] <Smooch1502> rek: Be nice as all users are just trying to help, they are volunteers
[11:58] <rek> and then? they said me to install tinyx  be kind...also you should be kind
[11:58] <ikonia> rek: you are changing your problem - if you want to debug it, we can help
[11:58] <Smooch1502> rek: follow these steps: install ubuntu first without this we cannot help
[11:58] <rek> ok but i have not only one problem i have 2 problem
[11:58] <ngage> hi when i start ubunti i saw this boot message:  chown: invalid group root:polkituser   what that message meen
[11:59] <ikonia> rek: yes, but you still need to install ubuntu, and as you say it's unsable, you still need to use the vesa xorg driver - so do it
[11:59] <Smooch1502> rek: then follow the steps once installed that ikonia tells you
[11:59] <leaf-sheep> rek: We don't care if you have 99 problems.  Install Ubuntu first.
[11:59] <Smooch1502> rek: we cant help you if you dont have ubuntu installed first
[11:59] <erUSUL> ngage: using 9.10 karmic ?
[11:59] <ikonia> ngage: it means your policy kit user doesn't exist
[11:59] <rek> ok ...recovery mode is only with terminal?
[11:59] <ikonia> rek: yes
[12:00] <rek> i must do sudo gedit /etc/
[12:00] <ngage> ikonia: xubuntu 8.04.3 ,how do i create policy kit?
[12:00] <erUSUL> rek: yes. it shows a menu with a few options (repair X; and drop to a root shell among them)
[12:00] <ikonia> ngage: don't worry about it - it's just a warning
[12:00] <ikonia> rek: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as I've told you multiple times
[12:00] <rek> X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <ngage> i know it is warrning i had no problems
[12:00] <ikonia> rek: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <Smooch1502> rek: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <duckx0r> rek, gedit is a GUI program. you will need to use a command line program like nano
[12:01] <rek> will i have nano?
[12:01] <duckx0r> rek yes
[12:01] <ikonia> nano will work fine
[12:01] <Smooch1502> rek: as duck said use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <rek> by default?
[12:01] <mrwes> Smooch1502, gksu gedit is preferred
[12:01] <rek> how can i save it then?
[12:01] <ikonia> rek: by default ??? what are you talking about, it's a text editor
[12:01] <ikonia> rek: use a text editor you know how to use
[12:02] <rek> sorry but i'm used to leafpad and gedit
[12:02] <duckx0r> mrwes, we're talking about command line here
[12:02] <Smooch1502> mrwes: Thanks for the tip but he is in recovery mode i think so he cannot open a gui program
[12:02] <rek> how can i save changes in nano?
[12:02] <mrwes> Smooch1502, so why are you telling him to use gedit ? duh
[12:02] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[12:03] <twright> rek, control + X
[12:03] <erUSUL> rek: crtl + O then crtl + x to exit
[12:03] <rek> thx
[12:03] <Smooch1502> mrwes: lol that was a mistake, i didnt know if he was using the recovery mode before
 rek: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:03] <rek> ;-)
[12:03] <duckx0r> rek, more than likely when you reinstall ubuntu it is just going to work for you right out of the box without even having to worry about this, so why not just install it and if it doesn't work, come back here?
[12:03] <erUSUL> rek: there is help in the botton of the editor
[12:03] <dvrcoder> can anyone tell me where dpkg-gettext.pl is supposed to be in the old distributions where it still existed?
[12:03] <mrwes> I'm fully aware how to edit from the command line
[12:04] <twright> dvrcoder, try locate dpkg-gettext.pl
[12:04] <twright> dvrcoder, you might need to try sudo update-db first
[12:05] <mrwes> rek, nano gives you the basic commands at the bottom of the screen
[12:05] <rek> thx
[12:05] <dvrcoder> ok, i just found the dpkg-gettext.pl on another machine, I will copy it over
[12:06] <Smooch1502> rek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nano
[12:06] <duckx0r> dvrcoder, just a question, why do you need it?
[12:06] <dvrcoder> upgrade from gutsy to hardy is failing
[12:06] <mrwes> well at least you guys didn't send him into vi :)
[12:07] <Smooch1502> mrwes: Yeah, iv acturly tried both vi and nano and from my experience nano is easyer :)
[12:07] <dvrcoder> because dpkg can't configure the packages because it needs that perl file
[12:07] <jezi22> what is the difference of xubuntu to ubuntu?
[12:07] <mrwes> Smooch1502, exactly
[12:07] <twright> mrwes, whilst vi rocks that would have just been painful :-)
[12:07] <prince_jammys> jezi22: ubuntu uses the gnome desktop. xubuntu uses xfce
[12:07] <mrwes> !xfce | jezi22
[12:08] <dabukalam> jezi22: xubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome, and is a lot less demanding, so can be used on lower spec computers
[12:08] <Smooch1502> jezi22: Xubuntu is a smaller or in other words just different interface that will work faster on older computers :)
[12:08] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466947
[12:08] <jezi22> ow.. thanks.. :D
[12:08] <aaron113> does anyone know which addon to get to read pgp mails on thunderbird
[12:08] <dvrcoder> would do-release-upgrade do anything else after configuring the packages?
[12:08] <Smooch1502> we both said pretty much the same thing
[12:08] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: they advice to copy it from the livecd....
[12:08] <erUSUL> aaron113: enigmail ?
[12:08] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: but i said it first :D:P
[12:09] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: Yeah i know but i was acturly typing it and just about to press enter but you said that just a second difference lol
[12:09] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: excuses, excuses xD
[12:10] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: Ok lol
[12:10] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: :P
[12:10] <aaron113> erUSUL: no its an older version i have the new version
[12:10] <erUSUL> aaron113: old version of what ?
[12:10] <hacktop> what apt-get command is used to get gnome?
[12:10] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have the brand new thunder bird and the add on is old
[12:11] <pale> can anyone help me with compileing launchy from svn, i get error but what i see this error isn't because dependency, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/d3232125d
[12:11] <aaron113> erUSUL: :(
[12:11] <dabukalam> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop i think
[12:11] <dabukalam> or no wait gnome-window-manager?
[12:11] <dabukalam> what let me check
[12:11] <prince_jammys> hacktop: the most common is ubuntu-desktop package.
[12:11] <aaron113> dabukalam: who u talking to
[12:11] <hacktop> both
[12:11] <dabukalam> myself :D no hacktop
[12:11] <erUSUL> aaron113: well then you are out of luck... just keep using a version of TB compatible with enigmail
[12:12] <aaron113> erUSUL: i wanted to sign the code of conduct
[12:12] <hacktop> I'm converting backtrack 4 (kde) into gnome
[12:12] <dabukalam> !code
[12:12] <dabukalam> !conduct
[12:12] <erUSUL> aaron113: you can do it from cli you do not need a mail client
[12:12] <aaron113> erUSUL: whats a ci?
[12:13] <dabukalam> aaron113: command line interface - cli
[12:13] <erUSUL> aaron113: terminal
[12:13] <pale> can anyone help me with compileing launchy from svn, i get error, but what i see this error isn't because dependency, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/d3232125d
[12:13] <mrwes> pale, ./configure was clean?
[12:13] <aaron113> erUSUL: what comands
[12:14] <pale> i dint run confugure
[12:14] <pale> mrwes, program doesnt have ./configure
[12:14] <hacktop> How do I fix this error?** (nautilus:29523): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
[12:14] <mrwes> pale, most svn has autogen.sh then ./configure
[12:14] <pale> mrwes, in install how to it installs only with make and make install
[12:15] <mrwes> pale, oh...shrug
[12:15] <erUSUL> aaron113: gpg --clearsing file_with_the_CoC.txt
[12:15] <pale> could you tray it
[12:15] <duckx0r> good night all
[12:15] <Smooch1502> !pastebin
[12:15] <pale> mrwes, could you try to install it
[12:15] <dvrcoder> would do-release-upgrade do anything else after configuring the packages?
[12:16] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: if your upgrade was interrupted i woud do ┬½ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ┬╗ then ┬½ sudo dpgk-reconfigure -a ┬╗
[12:17] <mrwes> pale, nah...have you tried GNOME-Do?
[12:17] <pale> yes, but he inst like launchy
[12:17] <pale> launchy is far way better
[12:17] <erUSUL> aaron113: you must have a signing key of course
[12:18] <dvrcoder> erUSUL: thx, i'll do that
[12:18] <twright> pale, both are good
[12:18] <aaron113> erUSUL: gpg: Invalid option "--clearsing"
[12:19] <erUSUL> aaron113: is --clearsign
[12:19] <Smooch1502> Does this channel ever get busy?
[12:19] <erUSUL> aaron113: typo sorry
[12:19] <grawity> Smooch1502: It's busy already :)
[12:19] <kinasbg> lol
[12:19] <Smooch1502> grawity: :) still not many people are talking lol
[12:19] <grawity> Anyway. I'm on Intrepid (don't ask why), and I want irssi-0.8.14. The ./configure script can't find GLIB >= 2.6.0. What do I need to install?
[12:19] <Sidewinder1> Smooch1502>Had a "Net-Split" a few days ago.
[12:19] <kinasbg> Sombary Portuguese??
[12:19] <twright> Smooch1502, hopefully the plans to spit it up should help
[12:20] <Smooch1502> twight: huh do you mean split lol?
[12:20] <twright> Smooch1502, yep - did you mean twright?
[12:20] <aaron113> erUSUL: same thing happend
[12:21] <Logo2> I'm back
[12:21] <Smooch1502> twright: Yeah :( im tired might go to bed soon, anyway im going to stop talking about this its kind of going off topic
[12:21] <twright> grawity, have you tried sudo aptitude  build-dep irssi
[12:21] <grawity> Smooch1502: Most IRC networks, including Freenode, are made of many separate IRC servers.
[12:21] <grawity> twright: Yep. E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:21] <erUSUL> aaron113: just copy and paste ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗ (this command worksw if the file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt is in the same folder as you are )
[12:21] <grawity> Smooch1502: Sometimes the network splits in half (connection problems, or something like that)
[12:21] <Logo2> I tried renaming all the directories, none of them fixed the problem.
[12:21] <Smooch1502> grawity: yeah lol
[12:22] <twright> grawity, you should try going into software sources
[12:22] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:22] <grawity> twright: It happens to be a VPS without GUI.
[12:22] <twright> oh
[12:22] <grawity> twright: Anyway, it seems to work now.
[12:22] <twright> grawity, ah good
[12:22] <Smooch1502> smooch1502: !rules
[12:22]  * grawity edited sources.list but forgot to apt-get update :|
[12:23] <erUSUL> grawity: you have build-essential ?
[12:23] <dabukalam> !rules | Smooch1502
[12:23] <erUSUL> aaron113: the command gnerates a file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc that you have to paste into the page in launchpad iirc
[12:24] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: lol
[12:24] <dabukalam> !lol | Smooch1502
[12:24] <aaron113> erUSUL: didnt work
[12:24] <aaron113> erUSUL: post the comand again
[12:24] <dabukalam> :P
[12:24] <Smooch1502> ok
[12:24] <erUSUL> aaron113: error msg ?
[12:24] <erUSUL> aaron113: just copy and paste ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗ (this command worksw if the file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt is in the same folder as you are )
[12:25] <mitnick> have a nice day. :)
[12:25] <Smooch1502> :)
[12:25] <geirha> grawity: libglib2.0-dev
[12:25] <dabukalam> !happiness
[12:25] <Smooch1502> !ubottu
[12:25] <dabukalam> he's not THAT stupid xD
[12:26] <Smooch1502> whats mode #ubuntu +e by floodbot1
[12:26] <dabukalam> !dabukalam
[12:26] <dabukalam> OUTRAGEOUS!
[12:26] <aaron113> erUSUL: gpg: can't open `UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt': No such file or directory
[12:26] <aaron113> gpg: UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt: clearsign failed: file open error
[12:26] <erUSUL> Smooch1502: +e is a exception
[12:26] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:26] <Smooch1502> erUSUL: what do you mean?
[12:26] <dabukalam> !repeat | dabukalam
[12:27] <erUSUL> aaron113: is the file in the folder you are ? where did you dled the code of conduct?
[12:27] <aaron113> dabukalam: why u do that
[12:28] <aaron113> erUSUL: i never did dled
[12:28] <Smooch1502> is it possible to install ubuntu server along side ubuntu desktop + windows xp? as a dualboot
[12:28] <grawity> Smooch1502: Why do you want both Desktop and Server?
[12:28] <diogo_79> i you need windows xp
[12:28] <erUSUL> aaron113: you have to dl it if you want to sing it
[12:28] <aaron113> the code of conduct
[12:28] <jrib> Smooch1502: possible yes, but probably also pointless.  Just install the server applications on your desktop ubuntu
[12:28] <Smooch1502> grawity: i need it to have ubuntu desktop and server
[12:28] <erUSUL> aaron113: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1 <<< here
[12:28] <aaron113> erUSUL: sing it?lol:D
[12:29] <erUSUL> aaron113: yes
[12:29] <aaron113> sing
[12:29] <erUSUL> aaron113: you know english is not my mother tongue ;)
[12:29] <aaron113> erUSUL: u make me laugh!
[12:29] <Smooch1502> grawity: i want it to be in a dualboot as i still need to use the desktop for other uses
[12:29] <Logo2> When I log into my user account I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it. I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running wi
[12:30] <jrib> Logo2: does it work fine with a newly created user?
[12:30] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have to download it
[12:30] <Logo2> jrib: It does.
[12:30] <erUSUL> aaron113: yes. cleck in the link Dwonload this version
[12:30] <Smooch1502> i dont think theres a step by step tutorial how to install ubuntu server with other operating systems
[12:30] <jrib> Logo2: you got cut off at "gnome-panel running wi" but this means it's a configuration issue
[12:30] <brijith> frequency out of range message in screen after installing
[12:31] <brijith> qt to do ?
[12:31] <brijith> wt to do ??
[12:31] <erUSUL> brijith: boot into recovery mode... choose repair Xserver in the menu
[12:31] <jrib> Smooch1502: did you see what I said before about there not being much point in having both desktop and server?  Why *exactly* do you want both installed?
[12:31] <ryanakca> How can I have two network interfaces on two seperate networks configured simultaneously? I have wlan0 connected to the WWW and eth0 connected to a Debian box. If eth0 is up, all traffic goes to it, even if it is destined to the WWW (thus, should be using wlan0)
[12:31] <Logo2> ... with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail. I also renamed all the hidden directories in /home/rob (rob is my username), one at a time, to see if any of them were causing the problem. None of this broug
[12:31] <erUSUL> aaron113: done ?
[12:31] <aaron113> erUSUL: wait im moving it to my docs
[12:32] <Logo2> jrib: Is that better?
[12:32] <jrib> Logo2: you renamed all of them eventually and still encounter the issue?
[12:32] <Logo2> jrib: Yes.
[12:32] <chunky> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjBoNZ7NoRs
[12:32] <chunky> oops
[12:32] <Smooch1502> jrib: i want the desktop so i can still browse the web etc using gnome but i also want ubuntu server as a dual boot becoz having a server with ubuntu desktop uses to much ram
[12:32] <jrib> Logo2: that's pretty weird...  Does ~/.xsession-errors throw any hints?
[12:32] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:33] <chriswaterguy> Should I add the canonical repositories? Trying to figure out what's different about them.
[12:33] <Smooch1502> jrib: and i dont have another spare computer to have ubuntu server on
[12:33] <beans43> ubuntu tells me my greeter crashed. is that a security problem?
[12:33] <vavar> how can i test if a serial port really works?
[12:33] <aaron113> yes
[12:33] <beans43> where can i check error-log?
[12:33] <aaron113> erUSUL: done
[12:33] <erUSUL> aaron113: where did you saved the file ?
[12:33] <jrib> Smooch1502: but what's the point of a server that's almost never on... If you actually want to do this, it is trivial: just put in the disk and install the server on a new partition.  But I don't see the point.  Just disable gdm by default and any other services that bother you on the desktop
[12:33] <ZOO0828> hi guys, any idea where ubuntu's config files are located for the user selected "windows manager" or say the session manager config files ?
[12:34] <aaron113> /home/aaronvarghese/Documents
[12:34] <Smooch1502> jrib: correct but i still want it dual boot with desktop and server
[12:34] <jrib> ZOO0828: probably in gconf...
[12:34] <erUSUL> aaron113: ok do ┬½ cd ~/Documents ┬╗ and repeat the command
[12:34] <jrib> Smooch1502: fine, then just install it to a new partition
[12:35] <badnerd18> hey guys
[12:35] <vavar> is there a command that cleans and removes off old unused kernel versions and the corresponding modules, restricted and so on?
[12:35] <ZOO0828> jrib:  what if the default WM is KDE ?
[12:35] <brijith> how can i recover boot loader after windows installation
[12:35] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have to do cd ~/Documents
[12:35] <jrib> ZOO0828: try #kubuntu
[12:35] <grawity> KDE is not a WM.
[12:35] <aaron113> erUSUL: two times
[12:35] <Smooch1502> jrib: ok thanks for your help
[12:35] <jrib> !grub > brijith
[12:35] <Logo2> jrib: Not to me, but you're welcome to take a look at 'em if you want: http://privatepaste.com/470NNSL3Qi
[12:35] <erUSUL> aaron113: one time is enough
[12:35] <aaron113> mmh ok
[12:35] <badnerd18> hey guys i need help with john the ripper
[12:35] <erUSUL> aaron113: repeat the gpg --clear... command
[12:35] <jrib> Smooch1502: if you use the grub from the last install it should automatically detect the other ubuntu install.  If not, just look up grub chainloading
[12:36] <ZOO0828> grawity :   oh,  that I didn't know, :)
[12:36] <aaron113> then
[12:36] <jrib> !ask | badnerd18
[12:36] <Smooch1502> jrib: ok
[12:36] <aaron113> erUSUL: repeat that comand again please
[12:36] <dabukalam> brijith: use testdisk
[12:36] <badnerd18> ubottu how can i crack a password in john the ripper it says : no such file or directory
[12:36] <dabukalam> !grub
[12:36] <jrib> Logo2: hmm, what does ┬½ groups ┬╗ return?
[12:37] <erUSUL> aaron113: :| writte it down or copy it somewhere please ?
[12:37] <Logo2> jrib: What do you mean? What is << Groups >> ?
[12:37] <twright> badnerd18, if the password is good it is very hard to crack
[12:37] <erUSUL> aaron113: ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗
[12:37] <ZOO0828> actually, I am looking for the detail documents to explain how the ubuntu boot up process, especially how GDM/KDM taking over the control and load up the X.  also taking user selected WM into consideration
[12:37] <twright> badnerd18, what sort of password do you want to bypass
[12:37] <jrib> Logo2: I just enclose commands in ┬½┬╗.  By ┬½ groups ┬╗, I mean go to a terminal and run the "groups" command
[12:37] <Smooch1502> !password > smooch1502
[12:37] <badnerd18> Twigathy its a DES hash  ! do u have any idea?
[12:37] <aaron113> erUSUL: i did it now...
[12:38] <Logo2> jrib: I'm to do this from the problematic account, right?
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: right
[12:38] <Logo2> OK brb
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: just ┬½ su - problemaccount ┬╗ in a new tty
[12:38] <badnerd18> when it come to cracking passwords i suck  ...
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: erm, just login in fact
[12:39] <aaron113> erUSUL: i did it now...
[12:39] <twright> badnerd18, do they have an Irc channel
[12:39] <badnerd18> Twigathy i don't think so
[12:39] <grawity> Ubuntu Server question. locale-gen en_US only creates en_US.ISO-8859-1. How can I get en_US.UTF8?
[12:39] <erUSUL> !yay | aaron113
[12:39]  * Twigathy bops badnerd18
[12:39] <twright> badnerd18, or a newsgroup for john the ripper
[12:39] <ZOO0828> anyone can point me the right direction?   for the detail documents to explain how the ubuntu boot up process, especially how GDM/KDM taking over the control and load up the X. also taking user selected WM into consideration
[12:39] <aaron113> erUSUL: there was a ubottu comand like that? :D
[12:40] <jrib> !locales | grawity
[12:40] <erUSUL> !botsnack
[12:40] <badnerd18> Twigathy have u used john the ripper before ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis_Arch> ZOO0828:  gdm/kdm just launch as one of the last services - nothing really special about that,
[12:40] <Twigathy> badnerd18: no
[12:40] <amites> How can I set a custom name for a symbolic link to a folder  ex: I want to setup /a/b to link to /c/d/e/f  when I do ln -s /c/d/e/f /a/b the link is /a/b/f
[12:40] <badnerd18> ok:Q
[12:40] <grawity> aaron113: They're called factoids, and there's really a lot of them. Try !bot > aaron113
[12:40] <Twigathy> badnerd18: but I hear it's a pretty braindead tool... >_<
[12:40] <aaron113> !bot > aaron11
[12:41] <Dr_Willis_Arch> ZOO0828:  gdm/kdm look for various 'Whatever.desktop' files to define what 'sessions' they show in their session menu - look for gnome.desktop for an example of such a file.
[12:41] <Twigathy> badnerd18: read http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
[12:41] <geirha> grawity: man localedef
[12:41] <grawity> jrib: Hmm. Intrepid doesn't have localeconf.
[12:41] <badnerd18> ok Twigathy thnx
[12:41] <Logo2> jrib: "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[12:41] <jrib> grawity: at least my hardy server has en_us utf-8 by default
[12:41] <jrib> Logo2: you need to add yourself to all those pulse groups.  Run the same command with the working user and compare
[12:42] <grawity> jrib: Well, 'locale-gen en_US.utf-8' doesn't work, just fails quietly.
[12:42] <Logo2> jrib: Add myself?
[12:43] <jrib> Logo2: yeah, first paste the output of ┬½ groups workinguser ┬╗
[12:44] <Logo2> jrib: By workinguser you mean the account I'm logged in on now, right?
[12:44] <aaron113> erUSUL: can you also help with this problem i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through
[12:44] <jrib> Logo2: yeah, the one where you don't have the problem
[12:44] <knuut> hi i need help with my gnome-panel in ubuntu jaunty! it doesnt start automatically, instead i get an error message saying that the registration of the panel failes at the bonobo-activation-server. Anybody knows how to solve this?
[12:45] <Logo2> That outputs "administrator" (the account I'm logged in on).
[12:45] <Logo2> jrib: How do I add myself to those other groups?
[12:45] <om26er> how can i use .patch file
[12:45] <twright> hi knuut, I suggest you try deleting your configuration file from the panel
[12:45] <aaron113> erUSUL: can you help
[12:45] <knuut> twright: where do i find it?
[12:45] <jrib> om26er: with the patch command.  It's man page is very readable
[12:46] <Logo2> jrib: Currently it outputs "administrator" (the account I'm logged in on).
[12:46] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:46] <jrib> Its
[12:46] <twright> knuut, you need to click view and show hidden files in your home directory
[12:46] <jrib> Logo2: that's the name of the account right?  How did you create it?
[12:46] <om26er> jrib: how
[12:46] <knuut> twright: just delete, or do a backup first?
[12:47] <jrib> om26er: well to read patch's man page, you run ┬½ man patch ┬╗
[12:47] <twright> knuut, try renaming
[12:47] <knuut> k
[12:47] <jrib> om26er: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 is also a good introduction
[12:47] <mpgruhlke> is there a craiglist finder for ubuntu ?                                                                                CraigsList Reader
[12:47] <Logo2> jrib: I created it with that adduser command earlier tonight; someone who was helping me earlier suggested it to try to diagnose the problem.
[12:47] <heogen> hi, anyone can help me, I got a problem with the picture when a open the internet page it is not open
[12:47] <jrib> Logo2: the output should be more than just "administratior" in that case
[12:47] <vavar> is there some kind of established facility in ubuntu to clean up specified old kernels or is it left to oneself to search and clean up?
[12:48] <brijith> hai every one ... I would like to learn embedded programming in linux ....
[12:48] <twright> knuut, all of your preferences are saved in files with . in front so don't delete anything you want to keep
[12:48] <Logo2> jrib: Well... it's not.
[12:48] <brijith> my profile is ,, Python programer
[12:48] <jeromel> hi all
[12:48] <jrib> Logo2: what version of ubuntu?
[12:48] <rek> damn i don't find a cd
[12:48] <heogen> what program I should to install?
[12:48] <Logo2> jrib: The latest one, I think? 9.04?
[12:48] <mpgruhlke> latest version
[12:48] <bazhang> rek, which version
[12:49] <rek> cd rw
[12:49] <jeromel> does anyone can help me with ati drivers to use compiz ?
[12:49] <jrib> !version | Logo2
[12:49] <vavar> brijith: what do you want to develop? which platform? arch? what do you have tried alread? what do you want to learn now?
[12:49] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:49] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:49] <aaron113> heloooo
[12:49] <FloodBot1> aaron113: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <bazhang> rek, then use a usb stick and unetbootin
[12:49] <user__> dom
[12:49] <knuut> twright: do u know the exact name and location of the config file?
[12:49] <bazhang> aaron113, once is enough
[12:49] <knuut> canf find it
[12:49] <twright> jeromel, I might be able to help - what is your problem
[12:49] <rek> cd burner xp doesn't delete my cd
[12:49] <rek> is that possible?
[12:49] <user__> dom
[12:49] <heogen> when I open my email in box I can see any picture
[12:49] <bazhang> rek, then get a usb stick as I just said
[12:49] <heogen> how can I see it
[12:49] <rek> 512mb stick or a sd
[12:49] <jeromel> I'd like to use compiz or run videogames
[12:49] <brijith> vavar: I just want to learn the basics
[12:50] <aaron113> bazhang: sorry
[12:50] <jeromel> I can't use proprietary drivers
[12:50] <brijith> vavar: I prefer ubuntu
[12:50] <jeromel> I paste you the error on pastebin
[12:50] <twright> knuut, it should be called panel in .gconf/apps/panel
[12:50] <knuut> aah thanks
[12:50] <twright> knuut, other things might impact it though
[12:51] <knuut> twright, ill give it a try :)
[12:51] <jrib> Logo2: anyway add yourself to the pulse-rt and pulse groups at least (You can do: sudo adduser BROKEN_USER pulse-rt)
[12:51] <Logo2> jrib: "bash: !version: event not found"
[12:51] <vavar> brijith: why?
[12:51] <jrib> Logo2: !version just tells ubottu to say something to you
[12:52] <Logo2> jrib: I don't need to be a superuser to run it, do I?
[12:52] <jrib> Logo2: you do
[12:52] <aaron113> iona my cosin wants to know which class
[12:52] <brijith> vavr: I am really interested in things like controlling devices using computers
[12:52] <aaron113> im kind of busy]
[12:52] <mpgruhlke> hello is there anybody out there that is running   CraigsList Reader on ubuntu ?
[12:52] <Logo2> jrib: Oh, well this account isn't. What do I need to do to make it su?
[12:53] <jrib> Logo2: open a terminal, type "su - BROKEN_USER", then you can use sudo with the broken user
[12:53] <twright> jeromel, if you card is one of those disabled in the new version you could try 8.04 (LTS)
[12:53] <jeromel> is there a list?
[12:53] <brijith> vavar: I am really interested in things like controlling devices using computers, So I need a start in this direction ,,,,
[12:53] <Logo2> jrib: Ok, did that, now what?
[12:54] <jrib> Logo2: you added the user to pulse and pulse-rt?
[12:54] <Logo2> jrib: no, how would I do that?
[12:54] <jeromel> In fact my card is not listed on the ati website.... it is the X1700 and the only driver I found was for linux on the Asus website without any update
[12:54] <jrib> Logo2: adduser USER GROUP
[12:54] <jeromel> not for linux*
[12:55] <twright> jeromel, there might be somewhere but if it is an ati card which does not offer anything in hardware drivers then it is
[12:55] <jeromel> ok
[12:55] <Logo2> jrib: It says "adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system." - Should I "su root"?
[12:55] <twright> jeromel, ati have dropped support for anything older than a year
[12:55] <jeromel> ok
[12:55] <vavar> brijith: that obviously depends on the kind of thing you want to control. it is most likely not related to ubuntu then.
[12:56] <knuut> twright, the %gconf.xml in the "panel" folder?
[12:56] <om26er> jrib: if a program is installed then how to i use patch file to work. it asks for which file to patch
[12:56] <jrib> Logo2: you need to prefix the command with sudo...
[12:56] <jeromel> but I don't understand why my card is not on the list of products. There is X1600 and X1800 but not X1700
[12:56] <brijith> ok
[12:56] <jrib> om26er: you didn't read the article...
[12:56] <Logo2> jrib: ooo
[12:56] <twright> knuut, just delete the folder
[12:56] <jeromel> I think it was a special feature for ASUS
[12:56] <knuut> twright: the whole panel folder... ok
[12:56] <jrib> om26er: anyway, you usually patch source code.  Which means first you need to know how to rebuild packages from source.  Do you know how to do that?
[12:57] <jeromel> where can I see if my card is not supported by 9.04 ?
[12:57] <twright> jeromel, they might just remove ones they no longer support
[12:57] <tstebut> Hello
[12:57] <tstebut>  I'm trying to connect to my android phone with fastboot under my ubuntu hardy dist....
[12:57] <tstebut> But it can't find the device
[12:57] <Logo2> jrib: "adduser pulse" outputs "The user 'pulse' already exists"
[12:57] <Logo2> jrib: OH. Bah
[12:57] <jrib> Logo2: right :)
[12:58] <blip-> how do I get urxvt-tabbed in ubuntu 9.04 ?   I have rxvt-unicode installed but no gtk tabs
[12:58] <jrib> Logo2: also pulse-access: so that's pulse, pulse-rt, and pulse-access
[12:58] <jrib> Logo2: and "audio" as well if you're not in it
[12:59] <tstebut> the sd card is correctly mounted
[12:59] <tstebut> but android sdk can't find the device
[12:59] <tstebut> I didn't find the clue in google
[12:59] <tstebut> except udev configuration that I already done
[12:59] <FloodBot1> tstebut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <jeromel> twright:  I remember that I succeed to use proprietary version 8.2. But now I can't build the package for jaunty. Can I use them ?
[12:59] <Logo2> jrib: I didn't add the user. nm . OK, it's done.
[12:59] <twright> jeromel, looks like support has been dropped https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/365906
[12:59] <jrib> Logo2: alright, now try logging in with gdm and see if ~/.xsession errors provides new hints or it behaves differently at all
[12:59] <Logo2> jrib: OK
[12:59] <tstebut> Oh sorry, thanks for the link, as I guess I should've red it on the session header
[12:59] <heogen> when I open the Internet page, in my email in-box I can see the picture
[13:00] <twright> jeromel, you will probably break stuff using the old driver
[13:00] <heogen> how can to see the picture?
[13:00] <jeromel> oki
[13:00] <jeromel> =(
[13:01] <jeromel> is there other drivers than fglrx ?
[13:01] <twright> jeromel, you could either use default one or go to lts
[13:01] <diogo_79> guys i cannot configure the gadmin openvpn client
[13:02] <jeromel> oki
[13:02] <diogo_79> Import server certificates in the client settings first
[13:02] <pavlos> kanas ellinas?
[13:02] <gnu-di1> I've been using Opera in 8.04 for quite a while successfully. Today, it stopped being able to connect to sites, always returning "error: network problem". I've tried purging opera and reinstalling, including deleting my ~/.opera folder. There's no change, still fails to connect. Firefox and Chrome still work. Anyone have an idea?
[13:02] <diogo_79> but where to put the certificates
[13:02] <diogo_79> /etc/openvpn
[13:02] <diogo_79> i have try in there but no luck
[13:02] <twright> jeromel, I have the same issue on one of my other computers it is a massive pain
[13:03] <jeromel> now i use default. The problem is if y go to LTS, my printer and my usb sound card will not be supported
[13:03] <jeromel> Cruel choice...
[13:03] <bazhang> !gr | pavlos
[13:03] <dvrcoder> when i try to upgrade my slapd, it fails saying that slapcat had a segmentation fault when trying to back up... what can cause this?
[13:03] <blip-> how do I get 256 color patch for rxvt-unicode in ubuntu
[13:03] <twright> jeromel, ok what problems were you having with the default then
[13:04] <jeromel> I do not have 3D acceleration
[13:04] <GhostWolfy> hi all, i was wondering if anyone knows a good program for ubuntu i can install for my webcam?
[13:04] <jeromel> I would like to use compiz and/or games
[13:04] <calwig> Does anyone have a good website where to download splash images ? (xpm.gz) for the Grub-Splashimages Image loader?
[13:04] <twright> ah
[13:05] <heogen> can you help me with the picture plugin in the internet I can see the picture in my email in-box
[13:05] <geirha> calwig: gnome-look.org
[13:06] <GhostWolfy> if anyone can help me with a program i can install that lets me use webcams i remember one someone telling me about but i can't remember it
[13:06] <Logo2> jrib: Back. Now what was it you wanted me to check?
[13:06] <bazhang> GhostWolfy, cheese ?
[13:06] <twright> jeromel, I would probably recommend waiting for karmic then as new releases usually fix issues like this
[13:06] <calwig> geirha: as soon as you answered, I had an answer also elswhere, coincidence, :) thank zou
[13:06] <GhostWolfy> bazhang, yea is it called cheese or something else alltogether??
[13:07] <lucas_> ubuntu sucks
[13:07] <jeromel> twright:  ok thx ;)  How many times I will wait approximately ? =D
[13:07] <bazhang> lucas_, wrong channel for you then
[13:07] <twright> jeromel, you could try the alpha and if it does not work out of the box you can submit a bug at launchpad
[13:07] <bazhang> GhostWolfy, cheese is one; depends on what you want to do
[13:07] <jrib> Logo2: alright, now try logging in with gdm and see if ~/.xsession errors provides new hints or it behaves differently at all
[13:07] <twright> jeromel, well as it it is 9.10 it should be about 2 months
[13:07] <jeromel> ok =)
[13:08] <Logo2> jrib: I did log in, then I rebooted and logged back in on the account that works.
[13:08] <GhostWolfy> well bazhang i just want to be able to capture images n videos but one thing i remember was that it didn't have good lighting couldn't even find setting to make it brighter but i believe cheese was the one
[13:08] <jrib> Logo2: right, but on the account that didn't work?
[13:08] <consin> yes
[13:08] <mustafa> hello
[13:09] <consin> hello
[13:09] <jeromel> twright:  can I simply upgrade by replacing my sources.list ?
[13:09] <Logo2> jrib: Yes, I logged in on the account that isn't working, then I came back.
[13:09] <clearscreen> jeromel: use update-manager
[13:09] <consin> where is to update
[13:09] <bazhang> jeromel, its not released, bad idea to update now
[13:09] <jrib> Logo2: so did it behave differently at all, or did ~/.xsession-errors differ in any way?
[13:10] <twright> jeromel, you can upgrade via the command line using gksu upgrade-manager -d
[13:10] <jeromel> bazhang: i dont have important data on this computeur for the moment
[13:10] <ZOO0828> hi, guys,   a straightforward Q -  where is the conf file for the X to determine the selected WM?   which could be modified in recovery mode, no X environment.
[13:10] <GhostWolfy> bazhang, do you know how to get the lighting for cheese even with all the lights i have in my room it doesn't make it very bright
[13:10] <ZOO0828> WM - windows manager
[13:10] <bazhang> jeromel, okay, that is your choice; twright and yourself should best take this discussion of karmic to #ubuntu+1 please
[13:10] <clearscreen> jeromel: if you're feeling REALLY adventurous, upgrade using update-manager -d... but don't expect support in this channel when anything breaks :P
[13:11] <twright> jeromel, I would recommend a fresh install rather than an upgrade or just test on the livecd
[13:11] <jeromel> yes I think I will try the livecd first
[13:11] <twright> bazhang, we are discussing a specific driver problem anyway
[13:12] <bazhang> jeromel, if you have issues when running the cd help can be found the in the aforementioned channel thanks
[13:12] <mahmood> join #ubuntu-ir
[13:12] <Logo2> jrib: It didn't behave any differently but I hadn't check ~/.xsession-errors yet- I'll do that now. You can see the new xsession-errors @ http://privatepaste.com/731GQvSPjD
[13:12] <aaron113> S
[13:13] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ groups ┬╗ for the broken user return now?
[13:14] <Logo2> jrib: I can check that from the terminal even though I'm logged in from the working account, right?
[13:14] <jrib> Logo2: right
[13:14] <dvrcoder> hmm.... are there supposed to be two copies of the slapd bins, one in /usr/sbin and the other in /usr/local/sbin? or did the location change in a recent version?
[13:14] <Dan48p> do you guys know which partition grub is supposed to be installed in?
[13:14] <jrib> Logo2: you're posting ~brokenuser/.xsession-errors right?  Not ~/.xsession-errors of working user?
[13:14] <jeromel> ok thanks all I I thin I will try tomorrow and go back to give you information =)
[13:14] <gnu-di1> ’╗┐I've been using Opera in 8.04 for quite a while successfully. Today, it stopped being able to connect to sites, always returning "error: network problem" for any URL. I've tried purging opera and reinstalling, including deleting my ~/.opera folder. There's no change, still fails to connect. Firefox and Chrome still work. Anyone have an idea?
[13:15] <jeromel> if its work or not!
[13:15] <twright> jeromel, good luck
[13:15] <Logo2> jrib: That is correct.
[13:15] <jeromel> thanks twright
[13:15] <frogzoo> Dan48p: which part of grub? first stage should go on the mbr, 2nd stage goes anywhere, but typically /grub
[13:15] <Logo2> jrib: It doesn't look like there's been any change- I still get "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[13:15] <frogzoo> erm /boot
[13:15] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : Might be an opera bug
[13:15] <jrib> Logo2: erm, ok. try again I guess?
[13:16] <jrib> Logo2: su - brokenuser; sudo adduser brokenuser pulse; groups
[13:16] <gnu-di1> Blizzerand: maybe, but why has it worked with the same version for months, only to stop working today?
[13:16] <knuut> twright: deleting the folder didnt solve the problem. i even un and then reinstalled gnome-panel. all had no effect
[13:16] <Dan48p> frogzoo, i'm trying to repair grub after a windows install with sudo grub-install, though i don't know which partition to put it in
[13:16] <bazhang> gnu-di1, which version of Opera? thought it was at version 10 or so now
[13:16] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : Were there any updates for opera recently
[13:16] <knuut> rebooted of course
[13:16] <frogzoo> !grub
[13:17] <gnu-di1> bazhang: 10.00.4585  Blizzerand: not that I know of.
[13:18] <Logo2> jrib: No change in the output of "groups"
[13:18] <Logo2> jrib: What were you expecting to see?
[13:18] <twright> knuut, then if your desktop environment is not highly tweaked it might be quicker to rename .gconf and .config
[13:18] <jrib> Logo2: that your user is then in the "pulse" group
[13:18] <jrib> Logo2: can you pastebin your whole terminal session?
[13:18] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : I think you should first have a talk  with those guys on #opera
[13:18] <RaaG> Which is best Desktop Recorder ?
[13:18] <Dan48p> frogzoo,  i'm geading that but when it says "replace /dev/ska with the location you want to install GRUB on" i'm stuck
[13:18] <twright> knuut, it looks like gnome's config might be a bit messed up in that case
[13:19] <bazhang> RaaG, no best, choose the one you like
[13:19] <bazhang> !screencast > RaaG
[13:19] <RaaG> ?
[13:19] <knuut> twright: it all occured after upgrading to jaunty from intrpid
[13:19] <gnu-di1> Blizzerand: OK, I'll try them. Thanks for trying to help.
[13:19] <RaaG> Screencast ?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> RaaG: best is an opinion so is not conrete. there is no best app for any task at all
[13:19] <bazhang> RaaG, check the bot's PM
[13:19] <Logo2> jrib: http://privatepaste.com/12L6gMcO7k
[13:20] <knuut> twright: what u mean by highly tweaked :-) just use Avant and global-menu
[13:20] <knuut> and emerals
[13:20] <twright> knuut, then I recommend you backup and remove all of the .files / .folder in your home directory to give you something closer to a fresh install
[13:20] <bazhang> knuut, emerald?
[13:20] <frogzoo> Dan48p: ls -l /dev/sda     - does the device exist?
[13:20] <knuut> bazhang: jes
[13:20] <jrib> Logo2: right, my fault.... run "newgrp"
[13:20] <knuut> yes
[13:20] <dabukalam> !emerald | bazhang
[13:21] <bazhang> knuut, that may be the culprit as emerald is no longer worked on or supported
[13:21] <twright> knuut, I just mean that the quickest way to fix it might just be deleting your configuration so you may need to redo some stuff
[13:21] <Logo2> jrib: It is ran.
[13:21] <bazhang> knuut, see the message above
[13:21] <jrib> Logo2: then "groups"
[13:21] <Dan48p> frogzoo, it says "root disk 8, 0"
[13:21] <knuut> twright: emerald runs fine.. my window borders look pretty nice :-)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> wow dint know emerald was unsupported
[13:21] <dabukalam> !beryl
[13:21] <Logo2> jrib: Still the same: "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[13:21] <twright> bazhang, I do not think emerald would mess with gnome panel
[13:21] <frogzoo> Dan48p: that's the one you want
[13:21] <jrib> Logo2: ... pastebin /etc/group
[13:22] <dabukalam> !compiz
[13:22] <shos> Hello, On the Nautilus side pane, when I open a dir of mp3s, how do I change the 'Open with VLC media player' to open with rythmbox?
[13:22] <bazhang> dabukalam, please /msg ubottu
[13:22] <jrib> shos: right click -> properties -> open with probably
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> shos: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32273
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Dan48p> This url will give you step by step if you get stuck again. :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[13:23] <knuut> twright: so u recomment a fresh jaunty installation? one thing i dont know if its important: i have ati graphics card.. i know that in the past there were support problems in jaunty
[13:23]  * leaf-sheep got a sudden urge to rename !beryl to "Beryl have been merged with Compiz to form C..C..C... COMPIZ-FUSION!"
[13:23] <bazhang> knuut, which card and driver
[13:23] <shos> ActionParsnip: i did all that but it didnt change
[13:24] <bazhang> leaf-sheep, its just called compiz now
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> knuut>With ATI/Radeon, why not be on the safe side and install Hardy 8.04?
[13:24] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m5f00e55e
[13:24] <knuut> bazhang: dont know..... :) is there a way to find out?
[13:24] <twright> knuut, you could but it would be quicker to delete all of the folders/files with . in front in your home directory
[13:24] <twright> knuut, ati drivers would not cause this kind of problems
[13:24] <knuut> twright: and then ubuntu automatically replaces the deleted .folders?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: safeside?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> knuut>Driver wise
[13:25] <twright> knuut, yes - it is then just like you are a new user
[13:25] <lester> i have a problem can someone help me?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[13:25] <leaf-sheep> lester: What's the problem?  Detail!
[13:25] <bazhang> lester, need a question
[13:25] <ade_> ÕźĮÕĢŖ
[13:25] <jrib> Logo2: ok.  Do sudo adduser rob pulse-access  and sudo adduser rob pulse-access, then pastebin /etc/group again
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> shos: gksudo gedit /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[13:25] <ranasco> any body tell me the pdf file convert to excel files
[13:25] <frogzoo> !cn
[13:25] <knuut> twright: ok, that might get me to reinstall some apps?
[13:26] <bazhang> ade_, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese, here is English only
[13:26] <jrib> Logo2: and "audio" as well
[13:26] <twright> knuut, no as they are installed system wide but you may need to set them up again
[13:26] <lester> it says the configuration defaults for gnome power manager are not installed correctly, what should i do?
[13:26] <jrib> ranasco: that really doesn't seem like it would be possible in general...
[13:26] <bazhang> ranasco, there wont be a perfect conversion
[13:27] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m1d669b62
[13:27] <knuut> twright: ok ill try it, whats up with the login and password? is it still there or does it boot directly wihtout the id and the pw ?
[13:27] <Dan48p> frogzoo, i get an error that says 494 cannot open /boot/grub/device.map
[13:27] <jrib> Logo2: still need to do pulse-rt and audio
[13:27] <twright> ranasco, you could try open with the open office pdf import extension then copy and past into calc
[13:27] <leaf-sheep> lester: What were you doing?
[13:28] <lester> nothing it just happened and i dont know what to do
[13:28] <Logo2> jrib: You said "sudo adduser rob pulse-access" twice. Was one of them supposed to be just pulse?
[13:28] <twright> knuut, the login and password will not change. If you want to autologin then that is in system and Login screen.
[13:28] <Logo2> jrib: Or pulse-rt?
[13:28] <leaf-sheep> lester: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-power-manager"
[13:28] <jrib> Logo2: pulse-rt
[13:28] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip> With ATI/Radeon, would Intrepid or Jaunty be more likely to support the newer cards than Hardy? I may have spoke out of turn..:-(
[13:28] <twright> knuut, on the menus btw.
[13:28] <ranasco> hello
[13:29] <Ruien> anyone know of a decent curses-based window manager? I have looked into "viper window manager", which looks great except that its configure script fails to implement --prefix. Anyone tried any others?
[13:29] <knuut> twright: so ill delete every .folder in my home driectory
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: they'd be equal
[13:29] <knuut> :)
[13:29] <knuut> crazy
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> Thanx
[13:29] <lester> leaf-sheep, thanks man but what is it? is it a bug?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: the release is just supported for longer
[13:29] <twright> knuut, yes but you can back them up first
[13:29] <jrib> Ruien: that's the only one I've heard of.  Why don't you try things like ratpoison or even xmonad and awesome
[13:29] <Logo2> jrib: With pulse-rt and audio added: http://pastebin.com/m5eec8f80
[13:29] <leaf-sheep> lester: Not really.  Just something went haywire is all.
[13:29] <jrib> Logo2: try logging in as rob in gdm now
[13:30] <twright> Ruien, have you tried screen
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: the card may have issues with the version of xorg in each release so you'd have to look into that
[13:30] <Logo2> kk
[13:30] <lester> leaf-sheep, thank u dude :>
[13:30] <leaf-sheep> lester: No problem. :>
[13:30] <frogzoo> Dan48p: no device.map on my machine, I'm thinking you're using nix device names in places where grub wants grub device names, so either change your menu.lst, or create device.map
[13:30] <Logo2> jrib: brb
[13:30] <ranasco> any body tell me I want to convert pdf file into excel files
[13:31] <bazhang> ranasco, there was a suggestion above; did you try it?
[13:31] <knuut> twright: backup time: 30 Min :)
[13:31] <knuut> 25gb
[13:32] <ranasco> please send again
[13:32] <larsemil> anyone knows how to get all media buttons working on a dell vostro 1220?
[13:32] <bazhang> ranasco, could you scroll up?
[13:32] <twright> knuut, how many .files do you have then? You just need to copy those.
[13:32] <Blizzerand> ranasco : Just scroll up dude
[13:32] <bazhang>  ranasco, you could try open with the open office pdf import extension then copy and past into calc
[13:33] <knuut> twright: i have to mackup 75 folders if u mean those with a "." in front
[13:33] <bazhang> ranasco, please try some suggestions instead of simply repeating your question many times
[13:33] <Logo2> jrib: No change in the broken account that I could see.
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip> I'm using Hardy so I was just curious. On a similiar note, I was only going to upgrade to the next LTS, 10.4 I believe, can I go strait from hardy or do I have to go Intrepis Jaunty Karmic...etc.? I prefer upgrade to fresh install.
[13:33] <dvrcoder> why should ANY files be in /usr/local/sbin?
[13:34] <grawity> Why shouldn't they be there?
[13:34] <rek> some nicks in the side are coluered.. i'm using x-chat
[13:34] <dvrcoder> because I didn't put them there and installers usually should use /usr/sbin?
[13:34] <leaf-sheep> That's a good statement you got there, rek.
[13:34] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ ls -d ~rob ┬╗ return?
[13:34] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ ls -d ~rob/.* ┬╗ return?
[13:35] <jrib> dvrcoder: they should?
[13:35] <dvrcoder> well on my second machine which also has a server install, /usr/local/sbin is empty
[13:35] <twright> knuut, yes. you can select them all in nauilus if you go to edit-> select matching and type in .*
[13:35] <grawity> dvrcoder: Usually, it's like this: Programs installed from packages go to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. Programs compiled from source go to /usr/local/bin and usr/local/sbin.
[13:35] <grawity> dvrcoder: What _exactly_ you have in local/sbin?
[13:35] <ranasco> I am using openoffice 2.4
[13:36] <jrib> dvrcoder: usually when you install something yourself outside the repositories it will end up in /usr/local/ by default
[13:36] <knuut> twright: im already backing up and there is 22min remaining
[13:36] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m39afedf9
[13:36] <knuut> got em all
[13:36] <ranasco> no import option available
[13:36] <jrib> Logo2: didn't you say you renamed everything with a .?
[13:37] <zaggynl> what's the tool called to configure xorg? the gui tool
[13:37] <Logo2> jrib: I did change all the directories (one at a time), but then I changed them back.
[13:37] <twright> ranasco, there is an open office extension called pdf import, this will import a pdf as a document in writer from which you can easily copy and paste any tables into calc
[13:37] <dvrcoder> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m6494843f
[13:37] <jrib> dvrcoder: -ENOCONTEXT
[13:38] <twright> knuut, see you in 20min in that case - good luck :-)
[13:38] <dvrcoder> jrib: plus some slapd binaries i just moved out
[13:38] <ranasco> where I go to search pdf extention
[13:38] <ibuclaw> zaggynl, depends on the graphics card, I suppose.
[13:38] <dvrcoder> jrib: what does -ENOCONTEXT mean?
[13:38] <knuut> twright: if it doesnt work ill try vista ;-) ... joke
[13:38] <jrib> dvrcoder: it means you provided no context for our paste
[13:39] <dvrcoder> jrib: it is ls /usr/local/sbin
[13:39] <twright> ranasco, I would generally recommend google :-) - here it is: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport
[13:39] <ibuclaw> zaggynl, ie: for NViDIA cards, when you install the drivers, the NViDIA xconfig utility is installed too.
[13:39] <jrib> Logo2: well to be honest if you don't care about losing the configurations it's easier to just create a new account but otherwise rename all the . files and troubleshoot
[13:39] <twright> knuut, scared me for a second there :-)
[13:40] <larsemil> anyone knows how to get media buttons / acpi scripts to work for a dell vostro 1220?
[13:40] <jrib> dvrcoder: erm why is there so much stuff in your /usr/local/...?  How did you install these things?
[13:40] <Logo2> *sigh*
[13:40] <Scombr0> Hi everybody, i don't know where else find some help. I having problems with my wireless connection :/
[13:40] <ranasco> I download a new version open office thanks for help
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> !pdf | ranasco>
[13:41] <dvrcoder> jrib: that's what I'm asking. I never used anything besides aptitude / apt-get
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> !opera
[13:41] <Goldfire> easypeasy rocks
[13:41] <asfasdgger> hi there1
[13:41] <asfasdgger> !
[13:41] <Goldfire> try out the new release
[13:41] <dvrcoder> jrib: these files are old as hell, too. see http://pastebin.com/m40187f6
[13:41] <bazhang> Goldfire, please stay on topic
[13:42] <RaaG> Desktop recording with voice can u indicate me ?
[13:42] <Goldfire> bazhang: i'm french i don't understand
[13:42] <bazhang> Goldfire, easypeasy is not a support topic here
[13:42] <xnox> hello =) Something on my machine is uploading at top speed. I don't know what it is cause I'm not doing anything (no VoIP no uploads nothing like that)
[13:42] <bazhang> !screencast | RaaG check here
[13:42] <xnox> I'm suspecting someone is downloading everything off my machine
[13:43] <grawity> xnox: Pastebin the output of sudo netstat -ept
[13:43] <N-S> xnox perhaps you have a public samba share?
[13:43] <twright> Goldfire, off topic basically means use the right irc channel etc. This one is for support.
[13:44] <Logo2> jrib: I think I screwed up. I renamed the files, not the directories.
[13:45] <akshay> i need help regarding c++
[13:45] <akshay> in ubuntu
[13:45] <N-S> grawity Should that command come to a halt when all active connections are listed?
[13:45] <xnox> grawity: http://paste2.org/p/422672
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> !ask| akshay
[13:45] <xnox> grawity: the emacs bit is irc
[13:45] <visitor> Õż¦Õ«ČÕźĮ’╝ü
[13:45] <Logo2> jrib: I guess if I'm ever going to get to the bottom of this it'll because of renaming the directories.
[13:46] <visitor> µ£ēõ║║ÕÉŚ’╝¤
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> !cn | visitor>
[13:46] <jrib> Logo2: umm, it's one for loop :/
[13:46] <xnox> grawity: it doesn't seem to sho anything up
[13:46] <twright> akshay, what do you want to know?
[13:46] <grawity> xnox: Hmm, try with -n added.
[13:46] <akshay> i mean i needn to know to run a code written in c++
[13:46] <grawity> N-S: netstat may hang while it's resolving IP addresses to names.
[13:46] <Logo2> jrib: hmm?
[13:46] <ranasco> I am using usb wireless broadband but the usb device is windows based
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> akshay, g++ filename -o anyname
[13:47] <Scombr0> Ubuntu 9.04 won't connect to Wireless LAN, can someone help me? I've tried everything and can't fix it so far :/
[13:47] <ranasco> I am using 8.10
[13:47] <jrib> Logo2: just write a for loop to rename all the directories that start with a .
[13:47] <xnox> grawity: could that upload traffic be local to my machine? eg from myself to myself?
[13:47] <twright> akshay, for that you need to compile it so first try installing build-essential
[13:47] <grawity> xnox: I doubt it would slow down anything then.
[13:47] <twright> then g++ ./file
[13:47] <grawity> xnox: So, netstat -eptn?
[13:48] <akshay> how to install buil-essential
[13:48] <vavar> what's a good tool to check if any file loaded from a ftp server has the same checksum as the file on the server? is this check possible with all decent ftp servers?
[13:48] <xnox> grawity: http://paste2.org/p/422674
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> vavar>md5sum ?
[13:48] <xnox> grawity: I did -epnt hope the order doesn't mater
[13:48] <dvrcoder> jrib: i "solved" the problem. simply moved the entire /usr/local/sbin directory and rebooted, system still works :D
[13:48] <grawity> xnox: Still nothing interesting shows up :| (The order doesn't matter)
[13:49] <twright> akshay, search for it in synaptics (in the administration menu)
[13:49] <akshay> kkk
[13:49] <moonshine> i am mean little bastard...
[13:49] <Logo2> jrib: I'm not very good at shell scripting.