[12:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:42] <dwhite> thks g2g591
[12:42] <ct529> I had a go with rsync, but the result is that only one of the directory get synchronised
[12:43] <jussi01> !rsync
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:45]  * ct529 going for lunch
[12:47] <chakie_work> jussi01: ok, that forum thread was a mess. i'll stick with the mac for web browsing for now
[12:47] <chakie_work> jussi01: thanks for the help
[12:48] <jussi01> chakie_work: ok :)
[12:49] <chakie_work> slightly annoying though
[12:49] <jussi01> chakie_work: understand completely :(
[12:49] <habdel> hi there, libqt4-debug doesn't match the current libqt package ! so there is no way to install it
[12:49] <chakie_work> jussi01: of course the blame rests solely on the hands of adobe
[12:51] <habdel> where shall I report this bug ?
[12:54] <Hunkennalle> whats the major differances between kubuntu, debian and gentoo?
[12:54] <stdin> Hunkennalle: #kubuntu-offtopic is a better place to ask, not here
[12:54] <Hunkennalle> ok
[12:54] <Agent_bob> defaults  debian/*buntu   but packaging system */gentoo
[12:57] <Agent_bob> !bug | habdel
[12:57] <ubotu> habdel: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[13:02]  * habdel solved the problem, it was in synaptic's preferences to install old packages than the new ones
[13:05] <Agent_bob> hmmm i can't seem to make a dir with a newline in the name ???
[13:06] <Agent_bob> mkdir "`echo -e '\tthis is a dir \n with newline + name ; \n'`"
[13:06] <Agent_bob> then ls.   no newline only unknown chars
[13:07] <Pici> Why would you want a directory with a newline in it?
[13:08] <Agent_bob> Pici why not ?
[13:08] <Agent_bob> for that matter why with spaces or \ ???
[13:10] <muesli_> hey guys, i'm trying to update my system with apt-get, but somehow the status file seems broken from a previous (broken) update
[13:10] <muesli_> i currently get "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left" at the end of every apt-get update
[13:10] <muesli_> what can i do to resolve it?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> dpkg --configure -a
[13:11] <angasule> kopete in kubuntu gutsy doesn't have jingle support compiled in, I gather?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> apt-get install -f
[13:12] <muesli_> Agent_bob: nope, that's when apt-get install broke
[13:12] <muesli_> Agent_bob: the apt-get install finished fine, but left with a somewhat broken /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[13:13] <Agent_bob> muesli_ what does   sudo dpkg --configure -a    return ?
[13:13] <muesli_> Agent_bob: just finishes, no output
[13:13] <Agent_bob> and the other one ?
[13:13] <muesli_> status code equals 9 too
[13:13] <muesli_> the other one?
[13:13] <muesli_> apt-get update?
[13:14] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install -f
[13:14] <muesli_> "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left"
[13:14] <muesli_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:15] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:15] <muesli_> Agent_bob: yeah, i tried that as well already :(
[13:16] <Agent_bob> that doesn't tell me it's output ?
[13:16] <muesli_> heh sorry, same as for apt-get install -f
[13:17] <Agent_bob> then either A. you have built a broken package and installed it.   B. you have non-ubuntu repos in your sources.list   C. you found a bug.
[13:17] <muesli_> i go for C ;-)
[13:18] <muesli_> it's basically a fresh gutsy install
[13:18] <Agent_bob> !bug
[13:18] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[13:19] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii        pastebin that for me
[13:19] <lavid> so, when i try to start kde4 i get "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation." I think it's due to constantly installing bleeding edge versions of kde4 without any luck and maybe the un-installation didn't quite work. Any thoughts?
[13:19] <muesli_> Agent_bob: sorry, thanks for all your help, but i gotta run now, i'll be back in 30 minutes. thanks again
[13:20] <Agent_bob> umm hmm.
[13:21] <muesli_> Agent_bob: in the end, i _should_ be able to figure it out myself even. i just wondered if anyone just knew the solution
[13:21] <muesli_> my next try now would be updating to some other repository
[13:21] <muesli_> and then go back
[13:21] <muesli_> to make sure it's redownloading all the packages
[13:21] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii    <<<
[13:22] <Agent_bob> if something has a bad status    that should show it.
[13:22] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ' ii '     < more percise
[13:23] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v 'ii '     < more percise
[13:23] <Agent_bob> ooops   ;/
[13:29] <Agent_bob> i see we are not going to get a look at his package status
[13:29] <Agent_bob> oh well.
[13:30] <Agent_bob> i'm went.    gooday fellas
[13:38] <Downix> Ok, flash doesn't work anymore, what the heck??
[13:38] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[13:40] <ubuntu_> hello... im trying to install kubuntu, but i cant :(
[13:41] <ubuntu_> Can someone help me
[13:41] <ubuntu_> Sveiki visiem
[13:41] <selckin> only if you explain the problem
[13:41] <ubuntu_> i cannot install kubuntu :(
[13:41] <torangan> hi
[13:42] <selckin> ubuntu_: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html read
[13:42] <ubuntu_> maybe disc is damaged or what... it seem that everything ok
[13:42] <Downix> ubuntu_: Well, what is it not doing, exactly?
[13:42] <torangan> I tried to switch XUbuntu to KUbuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop but I still get the Xfce WM. What did I miss? :-)
[13:42] <ubuntu_> it shows that install has finished, but when I restart PC it is not work
[13:43] <xgoonerx> hey guys ... i need a help ..
[13:43] <xgoonerx> i've installed kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary drive
[13:43] <ubuntu_> I like linux better than windows :)
[13:43] <xgoonerx> but my computer always boot to winxp ...
[13:44] <xgoonerx> when i switch the boot drive prioty to the secondary drive ... it stucks on Grub loading
[13:44] <ubuntu_> my PC have 2 hdd, and 2 OS, but PC open just second drive why?
[13:45] <Downix> ubuntu_ what was on the disk before you installed it?
[13:45] <Downix> xgoonerx: Did you install Grub to the primary drive to enable dual-booting?
[13:45] <xgoonerx> downix : i made the EXT3 and SWAP partition on the secondary drive
[13:46] <ubuntu_> on 2nd drive...? there was winxp
[13:46] <x_zeuss> hello, has anyone here tried kubuntu with kde 4, the live cd?
[13:46] <xgoonerx> my primary drive contains WinXp ... i didnt installed kubuntu on the primary drive
[13:47] <ubuntu_> now i'm in linux with CD ;(
[13:47] <xgoonerx> i can't boot to ubuntu ..it stucks on Grub loading ...the hdd doesnt blink ..and it doesnt show any error notification
[13:47] <Downix> xgoonerx: Unless you put a boot loader onto the MBR of the first drive, you will not be able to boot from the second.
[13:47] <Downix> xgoonerx: Ok, see, that told me a lot.  Now, which drive is Grub thinking it's loading from?
[13:47] <xgoonerx> downix : please help me .. how do i solve this
[13:48] <Downix> xgoonerx: Still have your Ubuntu CD?
[13:48] <ubuntu_> where I can download free v of linux?
[13:48] <xgoonerx> yes... but i'm on xp right now
[13:48] <Downix> ubuntu_:  http://www.kubuntu.com http://www.fedoraproject.com http://www.debian.org http://www.linux.com
[13:49] <ubuntu_> Downix thank you wery much :)
[13:49] <Downix> xgoonerx: Well, XP can't do you any good in this situation, sad to say.
[13:49] <Downix> xgoonerx: Unless you install an ext2 driver
[13:49] <xgoonerx> downix ...wait a min .. i will use my live cd ..
[13:49] <ubuntu_> Downix ... but which v is better?
[13:49] <Downix> ubuntu_: Well, I prefer the first one, personally.
[13:49] <xgoonerx> downix : what do u mean ? u suggest me to make a new partition and install kubuntu on that ext2 drive ?
[13:50] <Downix> xgoonerx: No, I was just going to suggest looking at your grub setup menu for root partition to see if that was set properly.
[13:51] <xgoonerx> downix : i tried the sudo grub thingy ... would u hold on a sec.. i will reboot with my ubuntu live cd
[13:51] <xgoonerx> i did tried installing grub .. but that didnt fixed
[13:52] <xgoonerx> i cant even boot to win.. i had to fixmbr
[13:52] <Downix> well, fixmbr just erased grub
[13:52] <Downix> Maybe you should try grub-on-floppy?
[13:52] <Downix> I've used that a few times
[13:52] <xgoonerx> downix : do u think i have to make a partition on the primary drive (same drive with winxp) and reinstall kubuntu ?
[13:53] <Downix> Nah, I've done two drives dozens of times
[13:53] <Downix> it's just in getting the roots set up right
[13:53] <xgoonerx> ok downix ... brb ..i'll be right here on live cd
[13:53] <xgoonerx> c ya
[13:53] <Downix> I've been doing this for 13 years now, so it's nothing new to me.
[13:53] <Downix> ko
[13:54] <ubuntu_> Im installing ubuntu 2nd time
[13:54] <ubuntu_> I hope, it will work :)
[13:55] <Downix> ubuntu_: you do know that there are some slight differences between kubuntu and ubuntu right?
[13:55] <ubuntu_> here is someone from LV?
[13:56] <ubuntu_> Downix ... I know...
[13:56] <ubuntu_> maybe
[13:57] <Pici> !flavors
[13:57] <ubotu> !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[14:01] <tekstacy> how do I extract a password-protected .rar?
[14:02] <tekstacy> And can I do it without the password?
[14:02] <tekstacy> I don't see a place in ark to enter one
[14:06] <ciacon> hi folks - I have problems getting my Prism Wlan working - who could give me a "helping hand"?
[14:07] <krokodil> ciacon : Could you tell us more ?
[14:07] <mau> question: amarok is building my collection (about 10k files). how long will it take?
[14:07] <krokodil> mau : The necessary time ;-)
[14:08] <mau> didn't expect that^^ the problem is that after ~3 hours im at 33%, but it's over wlan...
[14:08] <ciacon> krokodil: lemme login on this laptop to the irc
[14:09] <xgoonerx> downix you still there? sorry i wasnt able to go online with kopete... a bit confusing
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> I have a lil problem
[14:09] <xgoonerx> downix : i'm on live cd now
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> Kubuntu was installing just like normal
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> But it started installing some lang packs
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> Then i cancelled the langpacks installation and nothing happenned
[14:10] <kermit_> krokodil: what info can I supply you with, about this wlan??
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> Errrr.........
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> The install dialog just went out
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> And the screen flickered
[14:11] <Drk_Guy> Seems like it reacted
[14:11] <Drk_Guy> sorry
[14:11] <krokodil> kermit_ :what's the problem ? what append ?
[14:11] <xgoonerx> downix you there ?
[14:12] <kermit_> krokodil: I can't use the standard kubntu tool to setup my wlan
[14:13] <Downix> yup
[14:13] <Downix> soryr, got into work
[14:13] <kermit_> krokodil: lspci --> 00:0b.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)
[14:13] <Downix> pesky thing
[14:13] <xgoonerx> hey man .. how can i fix my prob :(
[14:13] <sjck> anyone here can read russian signs and is willing to help me?
[14:13] <xgoonerx> no prob ... it's ok :) thx for helping
[14:13] <Downix> Well, do you see your linux-installed HD?
[14:13] <xgoonerx> yes
[14:13] <xgoonerx> but i cant open the fat32 files here on live cd though
[14:14] <Downix> Did you make a /boot drive, or use it as just one drive?
[14:14] <krokodil> kermit_ : Do u mean no acces to internet or no network at all ?
[14:14] <Downix> fat32?
[14:14] <xgoonerx> ow you mean the ext3 drive
[14:14] <Downix> xgoonerx: no, we need the ext2 Linux drives
[14:14] <Downix> ext2/3, right
[14:14] <xgoonerx> yes... i can see
[14:14] <kermit_> krokodil: can't even select a network
[14:14] <xgoonerx> i installed as it is ... just like the live cd told me
[14:15] <Downix> xgoonerx: open up the drive that had /boot on it
[14:15] <xgoonerx> Mount To =  /
[14:15] <Downix> xgoonerx: under grub's configuration file it should tell you which drive it's trying to mount as /
[14:16] <xgoonerx> downix : i cant open that drive !
[14:16] <xgoonerx> ha-storage-fix mount refused
[14:16] <xgoonerx> uid 999
[14:16] <xgoonerx> i cant open the other drives aswell (fat32, ntfs)
[14:17] <Downix> xgoonerx: says that they're already mounted most likely
[14:18] <krokodil> Kermit : It seems that you need to install XP drivers via ndiswrapper
[14:18] <xgoonerx> Downix : i'm a newbie on linux ..this is my first time installing ubuntu ... i'm so desperate to use ubuntu ... i dont want to use winxp anymore
[14:18] <krokodil> kermit : http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/2004_0505_IS_RT2460_WPA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>.zip
[14:19] <krokodil> kermit you can see the topic (french !) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=180408
[14:19] <xgoonerx> Downix : when i boot my pc .. it goes to winxp ..when i set my secondary drive as the first drive on bios ... it stucks on Grub
[14:21] <xgoonerx> netsplit ?
[14:22] <jussi01> !netsplit
[14:22] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:23] <Downix> man I love netsplits in the morning
[14:24] <Downix> xgoonerx: Sounds like it's mixed up on root, that's all
[14:24] <xgoonerx> downix : it's 21:24 PM here
[14:24] <Downix> 9:24 here
[14:25] <xgoonerx> GMT +7 ?
[14:25] <Downix> yup
[14:25] <xgoonerx> mixed up on the root? how can i fix this
[14:25] <xgoonerx> i'm in indonesia
[14:25] <Downix> I told you earlier
[14:25] <Downix> look at the grub boot menu
[14:26] <xgoonerx> should i use terminal ?
[14:26] <edgardo> ?
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> ...
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> This is strange
[14:26] <xgoonerx> i cant open any drive with dolphin
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> The installer is not reacting
[14:26] <Downix> that itself is odd
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> I mean, it is frozen after it has copied all files
[14:27] <Drk_Guy> It got locked-up writing grub
[14:27] <edgardo> alguno habla castellano
[14:27] <edgardo> ?
[14:27] <FrauHansen> btw. grub... is there another way to find out what kernels are installed exept looking at the "debian automatic kernel list" in the menu.lst?
[14:27] <Drk_Guy> I have myself managed to install it, but no menu.lst present
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> Is that normal?
[14:28] <FrauHansen> i think not
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> How can i solve it?
[14:28] <FrauHansen> did you get a freeze while installing?
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> Yep
[14:28] <FrauHansen> well you could try to reinstall
[14:28] <xgoonerx> Downix : would you be so kind to show me where can i see the grub root menu ?
[14:28] <xgoonerx> downix : newbie here :(
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> It was installing langpacks, then it frozen, i waited 5 mins and it unlocked
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> But then it locked up installing grub
[14:29] <user13> quit
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> Why?
[14:29] <user13> sorry...
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> Cant, the window is inactive
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> holla peeps
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> And i cant force it to close
[14:30] <user13> #quit
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Drk_Guy, force what to close?
[14:30] <FrauHansen> Drk_Guy: sudo grub-install /dev/hda <- replace that path with the one that suits for you
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> I know
[14:31] <xgoonerx> downix : any tutorials ?
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> But the isntaller seems to be working
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> Bcoz now i see the menu.lst
[14:31] <FrauHansen> alright then
[14:32] <xgoonerx> how can i go to the grub root ?
[14:32] <xgoonerx> shall i use the terminal ?
[14:32] <Downix> xgoonerx: Familiar with VI editing?
[14:32] <FrauHansen> what do you mean by "the grub root"?
[14:32] <xgoonerx> downix : not at all, sorry
[14:32] <Downix> then no, terminal will do you no good
[14:33] <xgoonerx> frau : i can't boot to ubuntu ... it got stuck on grub
[14:33] <FrauHansen> any error message?
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> No
[14:33] <ubuntu_> now my winxp doesnt work :(
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> Installer is just locked up
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Downix, could always boot to live cd and modify the file
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> But i think it is creatign files
[14:34] <krokodil> Does anyone try to make a system hot backup with dd, i've try it and it works but i 'd like to know if you have seen some problems
[14:34] <xgoonerx> it always boot to windows.... when i change the boot priority to my secondary drive ... it stucks on grub ...no error notification
[14:34] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, i can see it's not done because my accoutn's default files arent created
[14:34] <Downix> ActionParsnip: that's what I was trying to have him do.
[14:34] <ubuntu_> i cannot go in linux... that stops on grub loading
[14:34] <xgoonerx> ubuntu : i got the same problem
[14:35] <ubuntu_> how to get in linux?
[14:35] <xgoonerx> but i can still boot to windows
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, mount your drive once you have booted to the live cd and edit the file
[14:35] <ubuntu_> how to mount the hdd?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !mount | ubuntu_
[14:35] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:35] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, also if you google you'll see too
[14:36] <xgoonerx> action : i have just installed kubuntu on my secondary drive ... my pc wont boot to ubuntu ..any idea? it stops on grub
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, I pm'd you man
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> xgoonerx, boot to live cd and read the grub file (you could do us a pastebin too)
[14:37] <FrauHansen> grub goes by the menu.lst in the folder /boot/grub   in this file there is a list of operating systems and the path where their reside. this list has to be correct otherwise grub doesnt know what to boot
[14:38] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip how to mount hdd?
[14:38] <ubuntu_> there is no action like that
[14:39] <xgoonerx> this is what i did
[14:39] <xgoonerx> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lstbash: nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directoryroot@ubuntu:/media#
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, sudo mkdir /mnt/foldera; sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/foldera (is one example)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, do some googling theres a million websites on it
[14:40] <FaiDillinGer> whats up
[14:40] <Kaffeejunky> hi people
[14:40] <squid0> hello
[14:40] <Kaffeejunky> what are u doing
[14:40] <Drk_Guy> ...
[14:41] <Drk_Guy> I know FrauHansen
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> who is frau hansen
[14:41] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobdy help me?
[14:41] <Drk_Guy> But the thing is, the account's main files arent installed
[14:41] <xgoonerx> Downix : i'm on the root/grub now ... what should i do ?
[14:41] <ubuntu_> Now I don't have windows and linux ;(
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> hi steinerippo
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> are u german
[14:41] <steinerhippo> yes
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> i am too
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, if you edit the grub.conf you will but you need to get the drive mounted.
[14:42] <steinerhippo> but if you want german support, join kubuntu-de
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, once its mounted you can edit it so that you can boot
[14:42] <ubuntu_> okey im now search in google
[14:42] <Kaffeejunky> ok, this is my first time i chat in kubuntu
[14:43] <Downix> xgoonerx: Alright, can you use a pastebin for what the file says?
[14:43] <steinerhippo> Kaffejunky, i'm sometimes here, nice support, and i'm happy, that also i can help other people a bit
[14:43] <ubuntu_> only root can do that ActionParsnip
[14:43] <Kaffeejunky> ok
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, do what?
[14:44] <ubuntu_> mount: only root can do that :( ActionParsnip
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> sudo (?)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> sudo mount ....
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, thats all that means. If you ever get that, whack sudo infront of it (if its a CLI command)
[14:44] <Kaffeejunky> hi daniela
[14:44] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip ok that works :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, ok so you have the drive mounted?
[14:45] <ubuntu_> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount -h                 : print this help
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[14:45] <ubuntu_> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[14:45] <ubuntu_> The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.
[14:45] <ubuntu_> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ubuntu_
[14:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, STOP!!
[14:46] <ubuntu_> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[14:46] <ubuntu_> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[14:46] <ubuntu_> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[14:46] <ubuntu_> or move a subtree:
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount --move olddir newdir
[14:46] <ubuntu_> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[14:46] <ubuntu_> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[14:46] <ubuntu_> Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
[14:46] <ubuntu_> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[14:46] <ubuntu_> sorry about that.... whats next?
[14:46] <ubuntu_> ok
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> dont do that it scrolls like crazy
[14:47] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip sorry man
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, fdisk -l (we need to know which partition your ubuntu is on)
[14:47] <Kaffeejunky> daniela want to chat with me
[14:47] <Kaffeejunky> ??
[14:48] <ubuntu_> on which hdd? I got 2...
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, fdisk will show both
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ubuntu_
[14:48] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, put the output in there then paste the http link
[14:49] <Downix> this is fustrating, nothing will change my screen resolution
[14:49] <Downix> I migrate to a big monitor, text now 1" high!
[14:50] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  ActionParsnip
[14:50] <ubuntu_> ?
[14:50] <ben__> when the instructions for installing kde4 say "run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm", how do i do that?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, no just fdisk -l
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Downix, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[14:50] <ubuntu_> okey
[14:50] <ben__> i have already installed kde4, and am running kde4 from the login manager
[14:51] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip but nothing happens...
[14:51] <Downix> ActionParsnip: Yup.  It's not a big deal, I'll just sit further back
[14:51] <xptical> what is the best way to wipe a hard drive before I sell a PC?
[14:52] <Downix> xptical: Format it with some encrypted filesystem with no OS support.
[14:52] <xgoonerx> Downix : it's empty ?!!!
[14:52] <Downix> xgoonerx: Would explain a lot there
[14:52] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip console shows only 1 hdd of two... :(
[14:52] <xptical> format and re-write with random a few times?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, not sure how you switch. I'd look on google
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, run fdisk interactively
[14:53] <xgoonerx>  GNU nano 2.0.6       File: /media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:54] <xgoonerx> thats it ..it's empty ..
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> can someone take over its time for me to head home now
[14:54] <xgoonerx> it has a New File option there... what should i do Downix
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> peace out brethrynss
[14:55] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobody help me?
[14:55] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip in which map I can see that hdd?
[14:56] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip something works...
[14:58] <ubuntu_> who can help me mount hdd?
[14:59] <xgoonerx> my grub menu.lst is empty .... is that the reason why i cant boot to ubuntu ?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> my 2nd hdd didnt show anywhere? why?
[15:00] <ubuntu_> when u use live cd, Pc use hdd?
[15:00] <Wizard> ehlo
[15:00] <Wizard> are kde4 packages available for kubuntu/ppc ?
[15:01] <Hunkennalle> how do i know my root password?
[15:01] <Tm_T> Hunkennalle: there isn't one
[15:02] <Tm_T> !sudo | Hunkennalle
[15:02] <ubotu> Hunkennalle: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:02] <Downix> xgoonerx: Very likely.  Is the file editable as/is or do you need to sudo it?
[15:02] <steinerhippo> Hunkennalle: but if you are root and give him one, then he has one, but that's not the common way i think
[15:02] <Hunkennalle> but when im trying to instal: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com&intcmp=1383 it asks me for my root password
[15:02] <ubuntu_> how to mount hdd?
[15:02] <Tm_T> Hunkennalle: why do you install java from there?
[15:03] <Tm_T> !mount | ubuntu_
[15:03] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:03] <Tm_T> !java | Hunkennalle
[15:03] <ubotu> Hunkennalle: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:03] <Hunkennalle> i was on an webbsite and a box told me to uppdate and took me there
[15:03] <xgoonerx> downix : i think the file is editable ..since i'ts empty ... it got menu under it ..
[15:04] <xgoonerx> look
[15:04] <xgoonerx> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ ls /media/hdb3/ls: /media/hdb3/: No such file or directory
[15:04] <xgoonerx> thats the partition i installed ubuntu
[15:04] <xgoonerx> empty ?
[15:05] <ubuntu_> Tm_t mount: mount point /mnt/hd does not exist
[15:05] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: you need to create the mountpoint first
[15:05] <dhq> i have a camera on my laptop please tell me how to get it working on linux
[15:06] <ubuntu_> Tm_t but how?
[15:06] <Downix> xgoonerx: hdb3?  ok, something is not set up right
[15:06] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/hd1" for example
[15:06] <ubuntu_> Tm_t thanks
[15:07] <Tm_T> !tab | ubuntu_
[15:07] <ubotu> ubuntu_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:07] <xgoonerx> downix : hdb3 is the EXT3 partition
[15:07] <ubuntu_> Tm_T: okey, that really helps :)
[15:08] <ubuntu_> Tm_T: mount: special device /dev/hda* does not exist
[15:09] <ubuntu_> so many problems :(
[15:10] <Downix> xgoonerx: If I had more time I could walk you through this, but it's getting hectic at work.
[15:10] <ubuntu_> Downix: i can mount hdd from lice vd?
[15:10] <Downix> xgoonerx: since it is a fresh install, why not just re-install it, and make a boot-floppy rather than change the booting-drive?
[15:10] <ubuntu_> Downix: i can mount hdd from lice cd?
[15:10] <xgoonerx> downix : ok sir... no problem ...
[15:11] <ubuntu_> *live cd
[15:11] <xgoonerx> downix : i dont have a floppy drive on my pc :(
[15:11] <Downix> ubuntu_: Yes, I do it all of the time for maintenance purposes
[15:11] <articpenguin3800> will konversation be ported to kde4
[15:11] <Downix> xgoonerx: Well that's just silly.  The floppy remains the single most solid and proven booting method for emergencies.
[15:12] <zoli2k> Hi. Is the shortcut bug in KDE4 already fixed?
[15:12] <paolo_> hi, how can I open an application and set it "keep above others"  from command line?
[15:12] <Downix> xgoonerx: And this is from the guy that had to build his own floppy controller once when his motherboards southbridge fried
[15:12] <ubuntu_> Downix: why linux deleted all my data from winxp hdd?
[15:12] <articpenguin3800> i dont have a floppy ethier =(
[15:12] <xgoonerx> downix : yea... since the USB drive era... floppy seems to be neglected
[15:12] <Downix> ubuntu_: because you told it to
[15:12] <SSJ_GZ> zoli2k: There are at least two (probably three) separate bugs that cause shortcut breakage.
[15:13] <ubuntu_> Downix:  sh** all my 170 GB data lost :O
[15:13] <articpenguin3800> one thing i dont get is why is there a floppy ide controller on my motherboard if i dont have the slot for a floppy?
[15:13] <Downix> ubuntu_: you did proper backups as Winxp tells you to, right?
[15:13] <ubuntu_> Downix: maybe...
[15:14] <xgoonerx> very rare to find floppy disks nowadays (in indonesia)
[15:14] <Downix> articpenguin3800: motherboards can fit into a wide variety of cases
[15:14] <Downix> ok ok, getting sidetracked, need to work
[15:14] <articpenguin3800> even OEM computers?
[15:14] <Downix> have 120 sites to get going
[15:14] <ubuntu_> Downix: but why on startup linux grub loading sends error?
[15:14] <Downix> articpenguin3800: Yes, OEM's do not, as a general rule, make their own motherboards
[15:14] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: what error message
[15:14] <ubuntu_> error sector 17
[15:15] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[15:15] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800:  error sector 17
[15:15] <aleksanteri> how am i supposed to install libpoppler1{,-qt4} on gutsy ?
[15:15] <zoli2k> SSJ_GZ: Some of them already patched by the KDE devs. But I am not sure there are included in the recent packages.
[15:15] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: how old is your computer
[15:16] <SSJ_GZ> zoli2k: Ah, OK.
[15:16] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800: alll new, but processor older than 2 years... 2.4 ghz
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> i got grub error 17 on my old pentium 933Mhz
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> that was because i had ubuntu on a partition later than the 1024 cylinder limit
[15:17] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800:  i will now try...
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> dosent happen to me on my new rig though. Sempron 3800+
[15:18] <indystorm> so I am using kopete logged into aim and my buddy list does not show up- any idea why?
[15:21] <indystorm> and also how do I get a channel list on Konversation?
[15:21] <aantipop> indystorm: /list ?
[15:22] <indystorm> dude- awesome thanks--- any idea about the aim buddy list not refreshing?
[15:23] <aantipop> indystorm: on kopete-kde4 ?
[15:24] <xgoonerx> downix : i've succeded to enter into my hdb3 directory through research (google ofcourse).... what do u want me to do:  bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[15:24] <indystorm> yes
[15:24] <indystorm> Kubuntu
[15:24] <indystorm> I can logon but I get no buddy list- it's blank
[15:24] <aantipop> indystorm: sorry, i cant add any protocols
[15:24] <xgoonerx> root@ubuntu:/media# sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# mkdir /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# chmod 775 /media/hdb3/ -Rroot@ubuntu:/media# mount /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# ls /media/hdb3/bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuzand then ?
[15:27] <sjck> Hi, how can I unrar a .rar with password?
[15:27] <trappist> it should ask you for a password if it's encrypted
[15:28] <sjck> With Ark too?
[15:28] <sjck> I mean, does Ark ask too?
[15:28] <trappist> I dunno, I don't use ark
[15:28] <sjck> What you use than?
[15:28] <trappist> the command line, for stuff like that
[15:29] <sjck> tar blabla?
[15:29] <trappist> right
[15:29] <sjck> Can you tell me whole command? :)
[15:30] <trappist> for what?
[15:30] <jussi01> sjck: man tar will tell you lots:)
[15:30]  * jussi01 thought ark asked tho
[15:30] <sjck> it doesnt ask
[15:31] <sjck> it says something pasword woudnt echoed
[15:31] <todobg> how to remove this panel in kde4?
[15:32] <jussi01> todobg: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4
[15:32] <todobg> ty
[15:32] <jussi01> :)
[15:33] <indystorm> so this linux thing is pretty cool.... runs good on my p3 1ghz with only 256mb ram!!! :)
[15:34] <Drk_Guy> Hi!
[15:34] <jussi01> hi
[15:34] <Drk_Guy> I have a question
[15:34] <todobg> here same nice to run linux in Q6600 8800ultra
[15:35] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo
[15:35] <Drk_Guy> ?
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:36] <Enok> I have only q6600 8800gtx, but can I still join the club?
[15:36] <sjck> Im simply not able to unrar my .rar with password. :(
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> sjck: Install unrar
[15:36] <llutz> sjck: unrar x file.rar
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> Its a propietary tool
[15:36] <Wizard> lol
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> But it works
[15:37] <senorpedro> sjck: open the file in ark and then click 'extract'
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> Guys....
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> Ark suckz
[15:37] <sjck> Ark doesnt work
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:37] <llutz> ark cannot handle rar-withpassword
[15:37] <sjck> and unrar just returns me options
[15:37] <senorpedro> afaik can it handle passwords but not from the context menu
[15:38] <llutz> sjck: unrar x file.rar or unrar e file.rar
[15:38] <sjck> unrar p mypass name.rar?
[15:39] <aaroncampbell> how can I find what (if any) package has png2ico (a utility that I used to use all the time)
[15:39] <llutz> dpkg -S png2ico
[15:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:39] <jussi01> !find png2ico
[15:39] <jussi01> !repeat | Drk_Guy
[15:40]  * jussi01 waits...
[15:40] <ubotu> Package/file png2ico does not exist in gutsy
[15:40] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:41] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: permanently?
[15:41] <Drk_Guy> no
[15:41] <Drk_Guy> just one time
[15:42] <sjck> llutz unrar e works :)
[15:42] <llutz> sure
[15:42] <sjck> thanks
[15:45] <nibbe> it says that I need SMB and NFS Server installed to share files via the network. How do I get it?
[15:46] <jussi01> !nfs
[15:46] <jussi01> !samba
[15:46] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[15:46] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:54] <grul> !pdf
[15:54] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[15:54] <Downix> The older I get the less I like pdf's
[15:59] <falko> Wsup?
[15:59] <Drk_Guy> ¬¬
[16:00] <falko> lol, nice my first time at IRC ^^
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> Can i change the way files open
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> ?
[16:00] <ForgeAus> has anyone tried corio-dock?
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> I.E. Open them with double click
[16:00] <ForgeAus> erm sorry cairo-dock
[16:00] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: yes
[16:00] <Downix> Grr, I need to get IE running now
[16:00] <Downix> ugh
[16:00] <falko> i have ubuntu feisty on ma PPC G3,... someone has a site with software?
[16:01] <ForgeAus> its a berli-os project looks like a nice dock applet
[16:01] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: go to System Settings via the K Menu
[16:01] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: click on Keyboard and Mouse, then on Mouse. The option is in there.
[16:01] <ForgeAus> falko a site? use adept
[16:01] <ForgeAus> (add/remove packages if you like)
[16:01] <falko> i mean: were can I find a "catalog" of PPC compatible software , and add/remove packages are great!
[16:02] <ForgeAus> ad/remove packages IS a ppc compatibel catalog, or at least should be...
[16:02] <sigma_1234> falko: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <ForgeAus> there is of course more packages you can add...
[16:02] <ForgeAus> (or more repositories)
[16:03] <nuxil> is kbluetooth broken in gutsy ?
[16:03] <ForgeAus> ouch I'd hope not nuxil
[16:03] <sigma_1234> i doubt it
[16:03] <falko> kk thanx
[16:03] <nuxil> im having serious issues with it.. i can only send from my pc to my mobile., but not from my mobile to my pc
[16:04] <FaiDillinGer> kbluetooth doesnt work well with me too, same here nuxil
[16:04] <nuxil> it worked fine in feisty
[16:04] <nuxil> and the help in kbluetooth is a bit outdated
[16:05] <nuxil> as there is no such thing as kbluetoothd in the current package.
[16:05] <ForgeAus> nuxil could be a bug???
[16:05] <sigma_1234> i thought gutsy had a updated version
[16:06] <ForgeAus> sigma it does...
[16:06] <ForgeAus> !kbluetooth
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> heh
[16:07] <ForgeAus> awww
[16:07] <sigma_1234> so then how can it be outdated
[16:07] <grul> !okular
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about okular - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> !kbluetoothd
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluetoothd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <ForgeAus> kwireless
[16:07] <ForgeAus> !kwireless
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwireless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> OMg
[16:07] <sigma_1234> !info kbluetooth
[16:07] <ubotu> Package kbluetooth does not exist in gutsy
[16:07] <ForgeAus> I dunno it'll be a note in some package
[16:07] <nuxil> lol
[16:07] <ForgeAus> !info kbluetoothd
[16:07] <ubotu> Package kbluetoothd does not exist in gutsy
[16:08] <ForgeAus> must be built into some other package maybe the networking subsystem or something
[16:08] <nuxil> the bot needs a update too ;p
[16:08] <llutz> package is kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ForgeAus> !info kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ubotu> kdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~beta8-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 842 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[16:09] <ForgeAus> !kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdebluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <nuxil> !libbluetooth2
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libbluetooth2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <sigma_1234> it will probably be updated when hardy is released
[16:09] <ForgeAus> well you were right llutz found the package :)
[16:09] <stdin> !msgthebot > nuxil
[16:09] <llutz> ForgeAus: "dpkg -S kbluetooth" tells you :)
[16:10] <nuxil> does the pack miss kdebluetoothd ?
[16:11] <nuxil> the daemon
[16:12] <llutz> nuxil:there's  no such app in gutsy
[16:13] <nuxil> its kinda strange, when i send a file to the mobile. i punch in a pin "1111" same on the pc. then i accept the file on the pc. the should happen other way around, but after it asks to put in pin. it seems like it disconects. like ther is no server running on the pc.
[16:13] <DreadKnight> what's the alternative for "show desktop" in kde4? i've heard it's something like the mac dash board where the widget get on top...
[16:14] <dhq> how to install kde4
[16:14] <llutz> ask in  #kubuntu-kd4
[16:14] <llutz> ask in  #kubuntu-kde4
[16:14] <stdin> dhq: and read the topic
[16:14] <stdin> DreadKnight: I think it's Ctrl-F12
[16:15] <DreadKnight> stdin: it seems so, thanks :)
[16:16] <DreadKnight> damn, i really hate hotkeys that include the function keys :|
[16:17] <DreadKnight> eh
[16:19] <vignesh> Hey all
[16:19] <vignesh> Are kde4 pkgs available for feisty ?
[16:19] <stdin> vignesh: no
[16:20] <vignesh> ah..
[16:21] <nuxil> so how can i get my bluetooth working ?
[16:22] <stdin> !bluetooth
[16:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[16:22] <Drk_Guy> !mp3
[16:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> ...
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> What do i have to do to enable Amarok to play files?
[16:26] <ostekake> gstreamer maby
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> Installed all
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> But still nothing
[16:26] <jussi01> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> I remember i installed some xine engine and it played
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> all multimedia files
[16:26] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: ^^
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> But i dont remember the name
[16:26] <nuxil> stdin, that doesnt work.
[16:27] <stdin> Drk_Guy: make sure you restart amarok after installing it
[16:28] <Drk_Guy> Still, no codecs available
[16:29] <Drk_Guy> I installed all the latest gstreamer versions
[16:29] <Drk_Guy> What could be failing?
[16:29] <ostekake> sudo apt-cache search mp3
[16:29] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:29] <jussi01> ostekake: you dont need sudo with that
[16:30] <ostekake> i know. sry
[16:30] <Drk_Guy> No jussi
[16:30] <Drk_Guy> Gonna try that
[16:31] <jussi01> !tab > Drk_Guy
[16:34] <DreadKnight> does the wacom mouse works in hardy now? :D
[16:34] <stdin> DreadKnight: #ubuntu+1
[16:34] <DreadKnight> stdin: ok ^^
[16:35] <Drk_Guy> i knew that jussi01
[16:36] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: great! you didnt use it before, so I assumed :)
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> ...
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> How can i list running processes?
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> I forgot it
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> Drk_Guy: ps -ef
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> or top
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> after that happens,the kde3 applications won't even work in another WM (like qlwm)
[16:38] <nibbe> always when using ./config i keep getting: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" Why?
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> whoops wrong channel
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> nibbe: grab the package "build-essential"
[16:39] <nuxil> hmm
[16:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i kill a process by its PID
[16:39] <Chousuke> kill <pid>
[16:40] <nuxil> anyone got a bluetooth fully working?
[16:40] <jussi01> nuxil: yep, me
[16:40] <jussi01> 2 of them infact
[16:40] <nuxil> jussi01, are you sure.. both ways. from mobilephone to pc and vs
[16:40] <llutz> nuxil: works with my nokia 6233 for DUN and file-operations
[16:40] <jussi01> nuxil: I use it for work every day....
[16:41] <nuxil> hmm. strange
[16:41] <maxym> !fr
[16:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:41] <nuxil> and you both are running gutsy?
[16:41] <hsystemx_> Drk_Guy, in terminal write:  ps -ef|grep YOUR_USER      , in the list of processes that it will show up, there is also the PID of each process.
[16:41] <nuxil> @ jussi01 & llutz
[16:42] <jussi01> nuxil: yes
[16:42] <llutz> yes
[16:42] <hsystemx_> So, after you find the proccess you want to kill, in terminal write:   kill  PID     , where PID is the number.
[16:42] <Drk_Guy> Thanks hsystemx_
[16:44] <Drk_Guy> jussi01: Got the cure
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> jussi01: What was needed was only libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> That lib lets amarok comunicate with Gstreamer
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> :)
[16:45] <kadam> I'd like to start developing for KDE4/Qt4.  I have kdevelop, but when I start a new project the "kde4" section is empty.  I installed kde4-devel and the qt deveopment packages (I think), what do I need to do?
[16:52] <ostekake> im trying to find a http tunnel app
[16:52] <ostekake> are this good: corkscrew vtun httptunnel
[16:57] <WorgiL> i installed asp.net 2.0. When i want open some pages, it starting donwload. How can i solve ? can anyone help me ?
[16:58] <emilsedgh> asp.net 2.0?! gh
[16:58] <WorgiL> emilsedgh: yes asp.net 2.0
[16:58] <ForgeAus> hehe asp.net 2 for linux?
[16:58] <WorgiL> ForgeAus yes
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> lol
[16:58] <WorgiL> http://www.turkishzen.com/asp
[16:59] <ForgeAus> thats .net framework libraries isn't it?
[16:59] <ForgeAus> don't you need mono or something?
[16:59] <WorgiL> i installed mono
[17:00] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletim.asp
[17:00] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletisim.asp
[17:00] <WorgiL> do Gonder
[17:00] <WorgiL> starting download
[17:02] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: have you any idea ?
[17:04] <WorgiL> can anyone help me ?
[17:06] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: well, you'll need some sort of web server software that can compile ASP, for instance an Apache module. I don't know if such a thing exists for Linux.
[17:07] <SlimeyPe1e> ah, Google says you need to enable mod_mono
[17:07] <Downix> ewww, mono
[17:07] <Downix> the standard that isn't standard
[17:09] <ForgeAus> yes asp.net 2 apps need to be served (usually on windows that means IIS)
[17:09] <ForgeAus> theres also an iis emulator for inetd isn't there? dunno how well featured it is tho
[17:11] <voonte> Which is the place to go for support on development tasks, such as questions about packaging, patching, etc?
[17:21] <runlevelten> Hi, is anyone aware that emacs-based assistive technologies are broken atm, and don't install?
[17:21] <virus> elo everyone
[17:21] <virus> one question
[17:22] <runlevelten> !ask
[17:22] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:22] <virus> can someone give a link to list of content dvd and cd of the newest kubuntu
[17:23] <virus> i'm just wandering if dvd contains some more packets to instal then cd version of instalation
[17:23] <virus> wondering sorry :)
[17:24] <stdin> virus: it does, it's bigger ;) I'll find the link with the file list for you
[17:24] <virus> i hope it is more "fat" :d
[17:25] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open ?
[17:25] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open about apache ?
[17:25] <stdin> virus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.list  (look under /pool)
[17:25] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: you need to enable it in your Apache configuration
[17:25] <virus> cheers!
[17:26] <WorgiL> okay SlimeyPe1e i will try
[17:26] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono
[17:26] <SlimeyPe1e> ^^ looks like it has instructions
[17:27] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[17:27] <Drk_Guy> I have a curiosity
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> why Nvidia driver detected my card as an ATi card, and asigned it a diferent PCI id
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> and the nvidia driver
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> lol
[17:28] <virus> the other thing is - what installing aplication instead of apt - should i use to install automatix packages?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> !automatix
[17:28] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[17:29] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e how can i do apache mod_mono set ?
[17:30] <virus> so what you can tell me about installing imortant - to me - mp3 plugin or packages manager? what manager should i download and install?
[17:31] <odinsbane> okay I have a functionality question about kde 4
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> virus: run this command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: ok
[17:32] <odinsbane> I did something with my mouse and all of my programs because somewhat small and I was a able to click on one and it became the focus.
[17:32] <Dr_willis> odinsbane,  thats a feature. :)
[17:32] <virus> i tried it - in moment of instalation of java uprgrade its stopping suddenly and app aplication is 'eating' half of my 3 coma 2 GHz CPU
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: move your mouse to the upper left corner
[17:32] <Dr_willis> move to the top left, enables that expose-like featuyre
[17:33] <virus> apt sorry
[17:33] <odinsbane> doesn't do it.
[17:34] <virus> it's quite nervous to make 10 times the same operation without effect
[17:34] <Dr_willis> check the kde4 settings. you may have it disbled now.  Im not using kde4 any more. so cant help much more.
[17:34] <Dr_willis> also it may take a second or 2 to kick in.
[17:35] <mikelima> Hi all. I'm trying to compile KDE4 on kubuntu hardy...
[17:35] <lg188_> how do you send a text to a server ?
[17:35] <mikelima> But kdebase does not compile (Wrong strigi version, apparently...)
[17:36] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e i have apache_mod_mono already http://turkishzen.com/asp/ you can see
[17:36] <mikelima> Trying to remove the distribution strigi would remove all of KDE too...
[17:37] <odinsbane> Dr_willis do you still use kde?
[17:38] <Dr_willis> I just removed kde4 last night.
[17:38] <virus> i think that there might be some mistakes - dependes about localisation of that desktop user
[17:38] <Dr_willis> so on the desktop i got i use kde, laptop using gnome.
[17:40] <crookshanks> any opinions of kde4?
[17:40] <ostekake> i cant play DVDs. Error reading NAV packet.
[17:41] <SlimeyPe1e> crookshanks: it's promising but it's a long way from being finished.
[17:41] <Dr_willis> crookshanks,  leave it alone for now. :)
[17:41] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: I think it's one version number higher than KDE3
[17:41] <DaSkreech>  but that is just one man's opinion
[17:41] <SlimeyPe1e> Wait for 4.1 if you want something usable.
[17:41] <odinsbane> Dr Willis, What did you call the feature?
[17:41] <nexamac> :>
[17:41] <crookshanks> I figured as much
[17:41] <RonPaul_pwnz> i tried kde 4, but i'm back using 3.5 right now
[17:41] <virus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - have anyone some troubles with java packages in it?
[17:41] <nexamac> wheres the default place stuff end up when i copy something from a remote computer via dolphin?
[17:41] <Dr_willis> odinsbane,  i think it was called expose in the settings
[17:41] <nexamac> cause its not on my desktop >_>
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> crookshanks: i'm using it,its dfinately usable but wait until at least 4.01 for some of the big problems to get fixed
[17:42] <odinsbane> The change from rc2 is amazing...somethings are now functional and somethings arent
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: well, its a copy of the Mac Expose
[17:42] <crookshanks> nosrednaekim: I'll probably wait until hardy comes out to use it
[17:44] <virus> as i see java is not problematic for most of U - lucky U :(
[17:47] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: If you aren't really interested in KDE4 >really< interested you might want to sit 4.0 series out
[17:48] <odinsbane> Plasma is not a 'happy' program
[17:48] <DaSkreech> it's between states :)
[17:49] <virus> honestly - there's less of soft than in ubuntu...
[17:49] <virus> i'm wondering why?
[17:49] <odinsbane> as a matter of fact, it just vanished again.  I'm firin' gnome back up.
[17:51] <DaSkreech> virus: There is is less soft?
[17:52] <virus> it's obvious isnt' it?
[17:52] <virus> when i've installed it from cd, i was scared
[17:52]  * Drk_Guy is so mad
[17:52] <Drk_Guy> why Compiz is not working!!!?
[17:52] <Wizard> ok.. where can i get support/ask questions on kubuntu hardy on powerpc :)
[17:52] <virus> next few days show me that i wasn't wrong :(
[17:52] <ignignokt> hey i'm using amarok 1.4.8 and each time i start it my collection's empty and i need to rescan.. what gives
[17:53] <august_> !root
[17:53] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:53] <ignignokt> wizard: i believe #kubuntu+1
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: do you have alot of playlists?
[17:53] <ignignokt> none
[17:53] <Wizard> and what about ppc ?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: Wizard: #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <ignignokt> actually maybe 1
[17:54] <ignignokt> ... i've been using amarok on gnome for a while and it's been fine, then i switched to kde and it's doing this
[17:54] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix > farzad
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: then do this "rm -rf .kde/share/apps/amarok"
[17:55] <martin_> connect #kubuntu.fr
[17:55] <crookshanks> DaSkreech: I would say that I'm 'fairly' interested in kde4
[17:56] <crookshanks> DaSkreech: but I probably will wait a few months before I use it
[17:56] <martin_> !fr
[17:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:57] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: Might be worth to have it as an alternate login option then
[17:57] <ignignokt> it's rebuilding collection...
[17:57] <ignignokt> then i'll quit/reopen see if its still there
[17:58] <CrocoJet> KDE 4 is out .. how to setup network ? I cant find option to enter IP, masc, DNS, etc
[17:58] <CrocoJet> I made download remaster kubuntu
[17:58] <CrocoJet> is correct ?
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> CrocoJet: that CD is really only for testing KDE4, not for doing anything "useful" however,if you have ethernet a quick "sudo dhclient eth0" should probably work.
[17:59] <CrocoJet> oh ok .. so KDE 4 is ready .. yet
[17:59] <CrocoJet> to use, right ?
[18:00] <DaSkreech> CrocoJet: For some definition of ready
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> CrocoJet: yes, it is to a certain extent, but I am still using a good deal of kde3 apps
[18:00] <odinsbane> CrocoJet,it is not solid.
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> hey MilhousePunkRock
[18:00] <CrocoJet> ok
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I am finally ready to upgrade to Gutsy...
[18:01] <CrocoJet> gutsy is not stable yet .. right ?
[18:01] <CrocoJet> (kubuntu)
[18:01] <DaSkreech> CrocoJet: Hardy is not stable
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah... gusty id stable
[18:01] <ignignokt> yes it is
[18:01] <ignignokt> hardy isn't
[18:01] <odinsbane> Gnome + Gutsy = rocksolid
[18:01]  * DaSkreech whispers Though I agree gutsy isn't stable yet either
[18:01] <CrocoJet> ok
[18:01] <crookshanks> hehe
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Only, I don't have the "Recommended updates" and "Pre-released updates" setting in the adept manager
[18:01] <DaSkreech> On the road again!
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> MilhousePunkRock: you may have to add the backports repository then
[18:02] <MilhousePunkRock> If I choose "manage repositories" I only get the sources list, no settings whatsoever
[18:02] <ignignokt> nosrednaekim: it appears that it's holding onto my collection now, thanks... i'll return if it goes wrong again
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: ok. great
[18:03] <danube> anyone knows about exchange compatibility with kontact?
[18:03] <MilhousePunkRock> nosrednaekim: feisty-backports are there... I was hoping to go the easy way, not changing every "feisty" in the sources.list to "gutsy"
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> MilhousePunkRock: oh, I see... well I think there is an upgrade app to do all that for you..
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[18:04] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:05] <RonPaul_pwnz> is there an app for adept that will automatically alert me of updates to my software from the system tray?
[18:05] <MilhousePunkRock> nosrednaekim: Thanks, but what is there is the same as on the Gutsy release page, my adept does not have those settings, like I said before
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: Yes... adept-notifier I think
[18:06] <RonPaul_pwnz> k thanks
[18:07] <RonPaul_pwnz> ah, now i remember, i disabled the notifier because it was telling me to update something that i didn't want to update :)
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: Just "pin" the version you want to keep...
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> !pinning
[18:08] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:08] <RonPaul_pwnz> ah, nice
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: I have done that because I had to downgrade something to work properly on my particular system
[18:08] <palash> hi all
[18:09] <RonPaul_pwnz> yeah i custom compiled amarok because it wouldn't work with my ipod with the defualt install
[18:09] <RonPaul_pwnz> and it kept wanting me to get the latest version of amarok
[18:10] <palash> how latest? amarok 2.0?!
[18:10] <RonPaul_pwnz> is 2.0 out?
[18:10] <palash> it's not.
[18:11] <RonPaul_pwnz> i hope 2.0 likes me better
[18:11] <RonPaul_pwnz> amarok is pretty good at locking up my entire system from time to time
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[18:14] <indystorm> hey is there an easy way to get programs installed in kubuntu?
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone help me?
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Emerald doesnt have any themes
[18:15] <Drk_Guy> But it comes with like 15 thmes by default
[18:15] <stdin> !adept | indystorm
[18:15] <ubotu> indystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[18:16] <stdin> !compiz | Drk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes
[18:16] <ubotu> Drk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: Already done
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But no themes
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: Also, i cant fetch non gpl'd themes
[18:17] <stdin> so you've done "svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes" ?
[18:18] <Drk_Guy> Yep
[18:18] <Drk_Guy> ill pastebin the error
[18:18] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  theres some command i thought ya ran to let emerald download themes automaticially
[18:18] <Dr_willis> i recall the info on the !compiz page
[18:18] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:18] <lovre> hi al
[18:19] <lovre> i just tried kde4 live cd (kubuntu).....
[18:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:19] <teeahr1> hey all, i tried to install KDE4 yesterday, and the install seemed to take, but now I can't log in to either KDE4 or KDE3.  i posted to the forums > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667034 but no one seems to know what's going on.  can anyone help me out with this?
[18:20] <Drk_Guy> stdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/854958
[18:20] <lovre> first impression: im dissapointed. :(
[18:20] <stdin> teeahr1: did you select kdm-kde4 as the default display manager?
[18:20] <teeahr1> stdin: yep
[18:21] <stdin> teeahr1: that's the problem then, you need to set it back to kdm (the normal one)
[18:21] <stdin> Drk_Guy: emerald hasn't been maintained since around July 2007, nothing can be done
[18:21] <dhq> does any one know how i can find my intergrated laptop camera
[18:21] <teeahr1> stdin: okay, but how do i do that?  i can't get to another terminal, ctrl-alt-F(1-6) just puts my monitor to sleep.
[18:22] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But it is upposed to come with like 20 themes
[18:22] <stdin> teeahr1: login to the console and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[18:22] <Drk_Guy> stdin: What happenned then?
[18:22] <stdin> Drk_Guy: it did when beryl did
[18:22] <stdin> *died
[18:22] <stdin> teeahr1: start in recovery mode ?
[18:23] <teeahr1> stdin: i'll try that, and get back to you.  thx.
[18:23] <stdin> teeahr1: are you on a live cd now?
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.852000] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Laptop Integrated Webcam (05a9:2640)
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.852000] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -32 (exp. 26).
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.908000] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[18:23] <stdin> !paste | dhq
[18:23] <teeahr1> no, i'm on my laptop.
[18:23] <ubotu> dhq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:24] <stdin> teeahr1: ok, because you can do it from a live cd too
[18:24] <dhq> stdin: 3lines of code os a flood
[18:24] <dhq> err is
[18:24] <teeahr1> okay, booting to live cd now.
[18:24] <dhq> stdin: please help me set up my cam
[18:24] <stdin> !webcam
[18:24] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:24] <Drk_Guy> stdin: there's somthing funny
[18:25] <Drk_Guy> stdin: When i try to install "emerald-themes", it says another package refers to it
[18:25] <Drk_Guy> Which package could be?
[18:25] <stdin> Drk_Guy: that's because the package doesn't exist any more
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But which is the package it refers to?
[18:26] <stdin> Drk_Guy: emerald
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> emerald doesn't install the themes...
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> It cannot be that one
[18:26] <stdin> emerald Recommends: emerald-themes
[18:27] <stdin> therefore it refers to the package
[18:27] <[ex]p|0s10n> кто тут из наших?
[18:27] <stdin> !ru
[18:27] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:27] <[ex]p|0s10n> ры ры кста:-)
[18:27] <voonte> So I'm trying to get the hang of building and patching deb packages and I made a quick fix to kdm-kde4. Do I really need to rebuild the whole kdebase-workspace package when the only change I made was to kdm?
[18:28] <stdin> voonte: 1) yes, 2) kdm-kde4 was already fixed (by yours truly) :P
[18:28] <teeahr1> stdin: joy! i ran dpkg-reconfigure kdm in recovery and i'm back in business! thx!
[18:28] <stdin> teeahr1: no problem
[18:28] <stdin> voonte: what does your patch do exactly?
[18:29] <voonte> stdin: Awesome :) I did this for practice, though
[18:29] <Offoffoff> KDE is evil!
[18:29] <voonte> Nothing worth submitting, just learning (the overly complex) deb system :P
[18:29] <parkin> i can play mp3 in amarok but not in juk, anyone know what libraries i need to play mp3 in juk?
[18:29] <parkin> or something else?
[18:29] <stdin> voonte: the kde4 packages aren't the best to start learning, they are insanely complicated
[18:30] <voonte> stdin: the kde4 packages (using the cmake scripts) made it really easy to work on single packages though
[18:31] <xgoonerx> i can't insert password after sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original
[18:32] <xgoonerx> i want to change my repository server
[18:32] <jussi01> xgoonerx: it wont show it but it is still going in
[18:32] <xgoonerx> ic
[18:32] <rothchild> Hi all, i've broken something uninstalling kde4 http://pastebin.com/m59b85f5f
[18:32] <jussi01> !u > xgoonerx
[18:32] <rothchild> there's some sort of conflict between kdebase-bin and kdebase-bin-kde4
[18:33] <teeahr1_> i'm  back. i'm logged in to KDE successfully, but i still don't have any other terminals (ctrl-alt-F1-6)
[18:33] <jussi01> rothchild: try sudo apt-get install -f
[18:33] <stdin> !packaging | have a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu
[18:33] <ubotu> have a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[18:33] <vincent__> Heya, can anyone tell me what's going on with the pakage installer under kubuntu? It keeps breaking. Third install today..
[18:33] <rothchild> jussi01: tried it no joy
[18:33] <stdin> teeahr1_: would you happen to have an ATI graphics card?
[18:33] <teeahr1_> stdin: nope, intel chip
[18:34] <xgoonerx> jussi : no... it says sorry, try again
[18:34] <xgoonerx> i can't insert the password
[18:34] <stdin> teeahr1_: strange then, it's a common problem with ATI, not so with intel. you could try disabling the boot splash and see if that helps
[18:34] <rothchild> http://pastebin.com/m76c31ac6
[18:34] <teeahr1_> i did notice in the kdm.log these two lines:
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: upgrade before installing
[18:35] <xgoonerx> jussi : i've succeeded installing ubuntu on my hdd btw.. after reformating, deleting partition and ofcourse reinstalling winxp ..lol
[18:35] <vincent__> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: oh, you're removing...
[18:35] <teeahr1_> (EE) intel(0): No valid modes.
[18:35] <vincent__> Adept keeps doing that..
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: use aptitude or just install "kdebase-bin-kde3" first
[18:35] <jussi01> vincent__: have you updated?
[18:35] <teeahr1_> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[18:36] <teeahr1_> i already have boot splash disabled.
[18:36] <teeahr1_> perhaps a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may be in order.
[18:36] <vincent__> I haven't done anything yet. Clean install. That's why it's breaking?
[18:37] <stdin> teeahr1_: possibly, but backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first ;)
[18:37] <voonte> stdin: Thanks. That's the information I'm reading now, but I couldn't find anything regarding the KDE4 packages (which primarily is what I plan to send patches for).
[18:38] <stdin> voonte: that will give you the basics you need, we can help in #kubuntu-devel with the rest
[18:39] <voonte> stdin: alright, thanks
[18:40] <luca_b> stdin: would #kde-devel a right place to ask aslo to try and track down problems in packages?
[18:40] <teeahr1_> tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg, no joy
[18:41] <stdin> luca_b: #kde-devel don't have anything to do with packaging, if it's a bug in the code then yes otherwise probably not
[18:42] <luca_b> stdin: whoops; I meant #kubuntu-devel
[18:43] <kristina> hi, what program could I use to redirect the internet traffic of a program over a proxy?
[18:45] <stdin> luca_b: packaging issues should always go on launchpad against the package, then if you want you can poke us in -devel
[18:45] <jussi01> kristina: which program, your browser?
[18:46] <rothchild> stdin thanks aptitude rocks!
[18:46] <kristina> jussi01: no, it's a tv streaming app
[18:46] <jussi01> ahh
[18:48] <rothchild> kristina: do you mean something like this? http://www.fire-drill.com/
[18:49] <kristina> rothchild: yeah something like that I suppose. is it legal by the way?
[18:50] <navetz> what software can I use to mount ISO's?
[18:50] <jussi01> kristina: do you mind me asking which app?? ie. sopcast?
[18:50] <stdin> !iso | navetz
[18:50] <ubotu> navetz: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:50] <kristina> jussi01: zattoo
[18:50] <rothchild> kristina: I don't know, it's almost certainly a policy contravention for most IT depts!
[18:51] <kristina> ok, I'll check the conditions of zattoo and look into firedrill
[18:51] <stdin> navetz: see also http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955 for a GUI wrapper around that command
[18:52] <thomas__> bonjour
[18:52] <thomas__> quelq'un parle francais?
[18:52] <jussi01> !fr
[18:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:52] <thomas__> merci
[18:53] <jussi01> kristina: apt-cache search proxy returns a huge list, maybe you want to have a look through
[18:53] <rothchild> kristina: ianal but I can't imagine why zattoo would care, if your trying to get it in to china or cuba or some such then the authorities might be a bit more concerned
[18:54] <alesan> hey where can I read how to write n the sources.list file. I have this site: http://giss.tv/~vale/ I would like to setup as repository for amd64
[18:54] <rothchild> alesan sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <marx2k> Hm.. how do I tell KDE bug tracker what compiler vcersion I have?
[18:55] <stdin> marx2k: ask in #kde
[18:56] <foibles> has anyone here tried suse?
[18:56] <foibles> what did you think of it?
[18:56] <alesan> rothchild: I prefere vi, that is not the point, what should I write? I only know the repository is located there
[18:56] <stdin> !ot | foibles
[18:56] <ubotu> foibles: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:56] <danube> foibles: what's your concern?
[18:56] <foibles> danube: ive just never tried it before
[18:57] <foibles> ive tried all other major distros, and a ton of obscure ones
[18:57] <parkin> i can play mp3 in amarok, kaffeine, vlc but not in JuK. neither with aRts, Gstreamer or aKode. Anyone got any idea how to fix this in JuK ?
[18:57] <danube> foibles: oh. ;) well, it's worth a try. but imho kubuntu is better.
[18:57] <foibles> danube: im downloading a dvd iso
[18:57] <danube> foibles: do you have any special requests?
[18:58] <foibles> danube: how do you mean
[18:58] <danube> foibles: any expectations
[18:58] <stdin> foibles, danube: this isn't the place to discuss suse
[18:58] <rothchild> alesan: I don't think that is set up as a repository that apt-get will understand
[18:58] <foibles> danube: we are angering stdin
[18:58] <danube> i see. let's go private
[18:59] <foibles> danube: go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:00] <rothchild> alesan they are recogniseable because they tend to look like this: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[19:00] <mewshi> hi
[19:00] <mewshi> when will KDE 4 be ready?
[19:01] <jussi01> !kde4 > mewshi
[19:01] <alesan> !kde4
[19:02] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:02] <SuQa> Klarade jag av att komma in ? :O
[19:02] <SuQa> Wohoo!
[19:02] <stdin> !se
[19:02] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:02] <kye> What would be a good chan to join with a n64 emulator?
[19:03] <kye> What would be a good chan to join for help with a n64 emulator?
[19:03] <marx2k> damn konqueror crashing like its drunk
[19:04] <SuQa> Anyone as can help me with drivers to my VIA unichrome pro? i've googl'd all day long! _(
[19:04] <marx2k> whats a VIA unichrome pro?
[19:04] <SuQa> Its a Graphic card ( im froom sweden, bad english)
[19:05] <marx2k> oh...
[19:05] <SuQa> marx2k, why not use firefox, my qonquertor crashes all time to.
[19:05] <marx2k> SuQa: I use it as a file browser. I use FF as a web browser
[19:05] <watswrong> hello guys. i have a problem during installation from the live cd. how can i create an extended partition so i can create more logical partitions?
[19:05] <SuQa> Ah, I see!
[19:06] <watswrong> (the documentation site is not loading i don't know why)
[19:06] <marx2k> watswrong: are you using gparted?
[19:07] <SuQa> Someone as can help me installing my graphic card? (can't spell, froom swe)
[19:07] <marx2k> !swe
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <SuQa> swe as in sweden.
[19:07] <jussi01> !se
[19:07] <watswrong> i have no idea i ran the livecd and the "install" icon from the desktop"\
[19:07] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:07] <SuQa> Jo, förökte komma in där, men hur?
[19:08] <marx2k> watswrong: can you open a terminal and type 'gparted' and see if anything gets found?
[19:08] <jussi01> !en | SuQa
[19:08] <ubotu> SuQa: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:08] <marx2k> meaning see if the program exists
[19:08] <watswrong> ok just a sec
[19:08] <SuQa> I'll try!
[19:09] <watswrong> The program 'gparted' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:09] <watswrong> sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:09] <marx2k> I would suggest doing that and use gparted to make those partitions
[19:09] <marx2k> its a graphical partitioning system that is pretty self explanatory
[19:10] <SuQa> Okey! I'll try that :)
[19:10] <dhq> cfdisk is better
[19:10] <watswrong> but.. i am running Kubuntu from the live cd. will it install it?
[19:10] <marx2k> yeah it will install it
[19:10] <watswrong> ok thnx i'll try it
[19:10] <dhq> watswrong: well qtparted is preinstalled on the live cd
[19:10] <SuQa> marx2k, did u mean me to install or watswrong?
[19:10] <marx2k> SuQa: I meant watswrong :)
[19:11] <SuQa> Bcs i've not it installd either.
[19:11] <SuQa> Should i install ?
[19:11] <marx2k> watswrong: yeah if you can use qtparted, use that. I only suggest gparted since thats all I have experience with. I think they work the same so if you have qtparted already there, use that
[19:12] <watswrong> ok.. but.. is there someone who has used the tool while running the installation guide of the live cd?
[19:12] <watswrong> maybe i don't have to install it
[19:12] <watswrong> there must be a way
[19:12] <watswrong> (the partitioning tool)
[19:12] <dhq> watswrong: i have done it
[19:12] <watswrong> could u create an extended partiotion??
[19:13] <watswrong> cause it lets you choose between "primary" and "logical"
[19:13] <dhq> watswrong: you have 3 options on the live cd cfdisk,fdisk,qtparted
[19:13] <dhq> well yes
[19:13] <watswrong> ok i'll have a look thnx
[19:15] <watswrong> dhq i don't have 3 options..
[19:15] <watswrong> the only options are "guided  resize bla bla bla"
[19:15] <watswrong> "guided- use entire disk"
[19:15] <watswrong> "guided - use the larges continuous free space"
[19:16] <watswrong> and "manual"
[19:16] <watswrong> i select "manual"
[19:16] <watswrong> and on the next step i just choose partitions to delete , create or edit
[19:17] <watswrong> ok anyway i will use fdisk is that ok?
[19:17] <marx2k> yeah see... what I do is before I even go into install, I use gparted (or qtparted in your case) to create the needed partitions... THEN I go into install
[19:17] <watswrong> oh i c
[19:18] <watswrong> ok yes that sounds a better idea thnx
[19:18] <marx2k> the default install program kind of sucks at partitions if you dont already have everything set up the way you want it, partitionwise
[19:18] <watswrong> do you know why i can't see the documentation on the ubuntu site?
[19:19] <watswrong> is there a problem with the server or is it my prob ( although i can see all other sites)
[19:19] <marx2k> whats the URL youre pointing at?
[19:19] <watswrong> https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <marx2k> Are you using konqueror to view that?
[19:20] <watswrong> yes
[19:20] <marx2k> Did you accept the cookie? (A secondary window pops up asking if you want to do so)
[19:21] <watswrong> i didn't have a secondary window poping up
[19:21] <foibles> by the way
[19:21] <foibles> has anyone tried kde4?
[19:21] <foibles> is it alright?
[19:22] <marx2k> foibles: You can read my take on it @ http://commodore128.blogspot.com
[19:22] <marx2k> watswrong: weird.. mine popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to accept cookies on it
[19:22] <watswrong> hmmm ok i'll check my setings
[19:22] <marx2k> watswrong: and when I accepted.. THEN it went... you might want to go into config and do an 'accept all cookies' type dealie if possible
[19:23] <watswrong> yep
[19:24] <watswrong> ... it has already "accept all cookies" by default
[19:24] <watswrong> i'll try another "https" site
[19:25] <watswrong> i can view them
[19:25] <watswrong> ...that's strange...
[19:26] <robinsw> Hi all
[19:26] <marx2k> that is weird\
[19:26] <watswrong> except konqeror is there another web browser on the live cd?
[19:27] <robinsw> With KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.
[19:27] <SuQa> Under systemconfig->monitor, is vesa normal there?
[19:27] <robinsw> Any ideas?
[19:28] <mark__> how do i access programs that i have installd but aren't showing in the menu?
[19:29] <mewshi> So, how is KDE 4?
[19:29] <sigma_> mark__: have you considered using the "run" dialog?
[19:29] <sigma_> mewshi: #kubuntu-kde4
[19:29] <mark__> i can't remember the programs names
[19:29] <mnovak> mewshi: i am not entirely impressed
[19:30] <mark__> i would like to add them to the menu though
[19:30] <robinsw> KDE4 is a nightmare.
[19:30] <mnovak> i dont like the panel
[19:31] <sigma_> guys its only a technology preview
[19:32] <mnovak> if you are new to linux i don't recommend kde4
[19:32] <kiddy> hi, wird hier auch deutsch gesprochen
[19:32] <kiddy> ?
[19:32] <jussi01> !de
[19:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:32] <sigma_> !de
[19:32] <kiddy> thx
[19:32] <emilsedgh> everyone says this is not for end users, then users pick it up, dont like it and say it was nightmare!
[19:32] <sigma_> !info amarok
[19:33] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[19:33] <mnovak> emilsedgh, i think kubuntu is very simple for the end user to pick up on
[19:33] <robinsw> With KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.
[19:33] <emilsedgh> mnovak: im talking bout KDE 4.0
[19:33] <jussi01> robinsw: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:34] <mnovak> oh yes
[19:34] <mnovak> i agree
[19:34] <noaXess> is there a kubuntu package to editing pdf files?
[19:34] <noaXess> !pdf
[19:34] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[19:34] <jussi01> !info pdfedit
[19:34] <ubotu> pdfedit: Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 2776 kB, installed size 7532 kB
[19:34] <noaXess> jussi01: okay.. i see.
[19:34] <jussi01> :)
[19:37] <ScorpKing> sudo apt-get install problems
[19:37]  * ScorpKing waits..
[19:39] <sigma_> ScorpKing: what are you waiting for?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> sigma_: someone with problems ;)
[19:40] <danube> short Q/A: does kubuntu support 3d effects?
[19:41] <jussi01> !compiz | danube
[19:41] <ubotu> danube: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:41] <Thingus> Someone want to remind me how to delete all of the empty directories within a specific directory?
[19:41] <danube> gracias muchachos!
[19:41] <jussi01> Thingus: all the drectories, or only empty ones?
[19:41] <sigma_> danube: you could also install kde4 for 3d effects
[19:42] <Thingus> jussi01: Only empty ones.
[19:42] <jussi01> Thingus: not sure then, sorry
[19:42] <Thingus> I'm dealing with my music collection, and I want to weed out folders that Amarok emptied.
[19:42] <ScorpKing> Thingus: try in #linux
[19:42] <danube> sigma_: thanks, good to know! but i've stopped adapting packages manually... ;)
[19:42] <phxx> hi@all
[19:43] <ScorpKing> hi phxx. welcome
[19:43] <sigma_> danube: just use the livecd - makes things alot simpler
[19:43] <mnovak> ScorpKing: what kind of problems?
[19:43] <danube> sigma_: huh? isn't that coming with 3.5?
[19:43] <phxx> I've got a linux specific question, maybe someone could help me. That would be great:
[19:44] <ScorpKing> mnovak: something simple.
[19:44] <mnovak> phxx: what's your question?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> !ask
[19:44] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:44] <jussi01> danube: comiz works nice here on 3,5. kde4 just has its own built in ones...
[19:44] <phxx> Where can i change to path from where the system loads shared libraries?
[19:44] <sigma_> danube: nope theres a kde4 livecd, check the kubuntu site for more details
[19:44] <danube> sigma_: oh i see, there's a new release!
[19:44] <phxx> I like to load a .so file from python
[19:45] <sigma_> danube: you didnt know that?
[19:45] <phxx> i have installed a self compiled version and one from the repos
[19:45] <danube> sigma_: not yet! *wannahaveit*
[19:45] <mnovak> phxx: you could try setting the env variable to the library location
[19:45] <phxx> the first one in /usr/lib the second one in /usr/local/lib
[19:45] <phxx> mnovak: ok, but do you know what variable i need to modify?
[19:45] <jussi01> !kde4 > danube
[19:46] <sigma_> im out
[19:46] <mnovak> phxx: the path
[19:46] <phxx> $PATH?
[19:46] <phxx> The $PATH specifies only the paths to the executables, i think
[19:46] <mnovak> phxx: sorry, you could put it in the LDPATH
[19:46] <phxx> but not to shared libraries, isn't it?
[19:47] <stdin> phxx: see 'man python' and look under 'ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES'
[19:47] <stdin> python looks under a different place than ld.so
[19:47]  * danube gone for reboot
[19:47] <FrauHansen> anyone using pidgin on KDE here?
[19:47] <mnovak> FrauHansen: yes
[19:48] <FrauHansen> mnovak: do you have the tiny popups when you get a new message?
[19:48] <mnovak> FrauHansen: you mean like growl?
[19:48] <phxx> stdin: thanks i will try it
[19:50] <FrauHansen> mnovak: i quickly googled for growl... that looks like the thing i have in mind
[19:51] <FrauHansen> mnovak: i thought libnotify would do the trick, but it doesn't pop up anything :(
[19:52] <supert0nes> anyone know why the kde4 files keep getting recompiled?
[19:52] <mnovak> FrauHansen: try this http://www.mumbles-project.org/2007/06/03/pidgin-plugin-now-available/
[19:53] <jussi01> supert0nes: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:53] <supert0nes> i dont need kde support i'm just wondering
[19:54] <FrauHansen> mnovak: that looks interesting. thank you.
[19:55] <mnovak> FrauHansen: no problem, there are a few neat plugins for pidgin
[19:55] <phxx> ok, i've checked the manpage and the homepage ... but i think thats no pythonspecific task, because i want to load the Library with ctypes:
[19:56] <phxx> ctypes.cdll.LoadLibrary('libcaca.so.0')
[19:56] <matteo> anyone knows how to solve this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/182753
[19:56] <FrauHansen> mnovak: can i install the .deb and use it with my current installation of pidgin (2.3.1)?
[19:57] <mnovak> FrauHansen: you should be able to use the .deb package...it should work with your version too
[19:59] <jarkko_> How i can find (ati) x1950 driver. (Kubuntu)
[19:59] <stdin> supert0nes: fixes are being uploaded, that's why
[20:00] <ScorpKing> i have a router on eth0 but use dailup on ppp0 for internet. if i connect ppp0 first and the eth0 i get kicked off the internet and the i have to redial to get back online. how can i prevent that from happening?
[20:02] <llutz> ScorpKing: prevent eth0 from setting defaultroute
[20:02] <ScorpKing> llutz: how?
[20:03] <llutz>  modify /etc/init.d/networking script or interfaces-file
[20:04] <ScorpKing> llutz: ok thanks. will do
[20:06] <holycow> where are the kde 4 wallpapers stored?
[20:06] <stdin> /usr/lib/kde4/share/wallpapers/
[20:07] <stdin> just take the kde3 path and replace "/usr" with "/usr/lib/kde4"
[20:08] <holycow> oh! danke
[20:09] <cazevedo> Hello everyone. Can anyone help with a strange problem with KDE ?
[20:10] <ScorpKing> !ask | cazevedo
[20:10] <ubotu> cazevedo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:11] <cazevedo> Ok. I have a (mainly) gusty install of kubuntu, which I updated with Synaptics. Now the KDE desktop display the contents of /, instead of $HOME/Desktop.
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> cazevedo: what do you mean by "mostly"
[20:12] <cazevedo> So, instead of showing the icons I had setup, I get icons for usr, var, etc, bin, ...
[20:12] <rainerf> hi all... can someone point me to a resource explaining how to install korundum4?
[20:13] <cazevedo> Mostly, because I pulled some upgrades from the hardy repositories.
[20:13] <FrauHansen> mnovak: thank you. looks like it works.
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> cazevedo: that probably wasn't smart
[20:14] <mnovak> FrauHansen: excellent, no problem
[20:15] <cazevedo> Probably, but nevertheless my problem boils down to: where does KDE get the $HOME/Desktop path ? Is it precompiled or is there a config somewhere ?
[20:15] <cazevedo> And why should a upgrade change that path ?
[20:15] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: It's configurable - one moment ...
[20:16] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: System Settings or KControl → System Administration → Paths
[20:17] <stdin> rainerf: the only package I can see named like that is libkorundum0-ruby1.8
On kControl the desktop path is correct. I'll try now to point it to another directory...
[20:18] <rainerf> stdin: yeah, that's the one for kde 3.5.7... kde4 got a kdebindings package, but i was unable to find it in ubuntu.. or, for that matter, the sources themselves ;)
[20:18] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: Ok
[20:18] <stdin> rainerf: then it's only available in svn
[20:19] <riccardo> hi kann mir jemand sagen wie ich auf quakenet joinen kann
[20:20] <stdin> rainerf: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebindings/ruby/korundum/
[20:20] <stdin> !de
[20:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:20] <rainerf> stdin: hm, you wouldn't by any chance know any document describing what i need to build it? i guess there will be some dependencies?
[20:20] <cazevedo> >SSJ_GZ>I changed the setting to another directory and then back to $HOME/Desktop and my icons are back. So apparently KDE caches this information somewhere and the upgrade screwed with it.
[20:20] <rainerf> stdin: thanks for the link :)
[20:20] <stdin> rainerf: cmake will usually tell you what you need, but a good start is the "kde4-devel" package
[20:20] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: Very odd, but I'm glad it works again =)
[20:20] <riccardo> some1 can explain me how i can join to quakenet
Thank you very much for your help.
[20:21] <SSJ_GZ> np
[20:21] <stdin> riccardo: if you're using konversation, try asking in #konversation
[20:21] <rainerf> stdin: hm, i've never used cmake, but i'll try :).. is there anything special to watch out for when building it for kubuntu? (perferrably building it so that i'll be able to remove it someday without hosing my system ;) )?
[20:22] <stdin> rainerf: cmake basically replaces the "./configure" script
[20:22] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[20:23] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that's what i figured.. do i need to take care of --prefix and stuff using cmake too?
[20:23] <s0u][ight> i wanted to install kubuntu on a friends pc
[20:24] <stdin> rainerf: yes, but it's different syntax with cmake, it'll be "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4 /path/to/source"
[20:24] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: and...
[20:24] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that's exactly what i was looking for, thanks a lot :)
[20:24] <s0u][ight> but the first thing was that i couldn't set up the network (got the alternate cd) and the second thing was that the cd didn't recognize the hd so it asked for drivers :s
[20:26] <stdin> rainerf: if you're looking to make a .deb package, have a look at the kdebindings-kde4 source package
[20:27] <rainerf> stdin: what do you mean? i don't see this package here on my system (kubuntu gutsy)
[20:27] <stdin> rainerf: it's a source package, the binary packages it makes are python-kde4, python-kde4-dev, python-kde4-dbg and python-kde4-doc
[20:28] <s0u][ight> .............
[20:28] <stdin> rainerf: so to see the source (and importantly the debian/ dir) you can do "apt-get source kdebindings-kde4" (no sudo)
[20:29] <stdin> that'll download it to the current dir
[20:29] <ScorpKing> s0u][ight: weird. why didn't you just use the livecd?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: what hard drive?
[20:29] <august_> !sudo
[20:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:29] <bmk789> is there KDE software that works like gnome's power monitor, that shows more battery info like capactity and graphs power cunsumption?
[20:30] <s0u][ight> the cd didn't recognize my hard disk so it asked for the driver i had to choose it manually
[20:30] <rainerf> stdin: hm, how come that works, if the package is not in synaptic? (i'k kinda new to ubuntu, please bear with me)
[20:30] <s0u][ight> but i don't know what driver to choose
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: what type of hard drive is it?
[20:31] <s0u][ight> i think sata 2
[20:31] <s0u][ight> dunno for sure
[20:31] <stdin> rainerf: because that's the source package name, the binary package(s) (.debs) don't have to be the same name as the source package
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: does he have RAID?
[20:31] <s0u][ight> yeah
[20:32] <rainerf> stdin: ok, so do i get this right: the source package is distributed alongside the binaries of kde4, but can't be installed through synaptic (obviously, since it needs to be compiled first)?
[20:33] <andre> hi all
[20:33] <stdin> rainerf: no, this is for every package in the ubuntu archive. source packages is what we upload to the build system to make the debs for us
[20:33] <andre> i have a little problem in kubuntu7.10
[20:33] <stdin> rainerf: for instance konqueror is in the source package "kdebase", but "kdebase" is also a binary package. use "apt-cache showsrc <package>" to see what the source package names is (you can use "apt-get source" with binary package names too
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: hardware raid or software?
[20:33] <andre> STRG+C / STR+V doesnt work from kde-konsole to kate and in other programs
[20:33] <s0u][ight> i think hardware not sure
[20:33] <andre> anyone have an idea where to look?
[20:34] <s0u][ight> the box of my motherboard says supports raid
[20:34] <august_> how do i execute binarys from konsole?
[20:34] <andre> i know, i can use middle mouse,but there i have a wheel, and its easier to press strg+c
[20:34] <stdin> august_: type the path to it
[20:35] <august_> oh yea.. thx
[20:35] <karthikp> Question: How do I disable Desktop Effects in KDE4 from a terminal. I've botched up the display and I see nothing but the mouse and darkness...
[20:35] <rainerf> stdin: ah, i think i get it now... i've just tried to compile korundum (the kdebindings src package contains it), but running cmake shows that it will not be built...
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> andre: there should be keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste in the keyboard shortcuts config gui
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: hmm let me find the file which handles that
[20:36] <karthikp> I remember reading it in one of the planet kde blogs but I can't seem to find it.
[20:36] <karthikp> It was some variable that had to be set to DONT_BREAK_MY_DISPLAY :)
[20:37] <karthikp> Or something close...
[20:37] <rainerf> stdin: -DENABLE_KORUNDUM=on doesn't change anything either...
[20:37] <stdin> rainerf: it's probably just not working, so it's disabled
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: try "rm .kde4/share/config/kwinrc"
[20:37] <karthikp> Got it. kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false
[20:37] <rainerf> stdin: :(
[20:38] <karthikp> rm'ing the file is too far, no? :)
[20:38] <stdin> rainerf: it'll probably be done by 4.1
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: it'll fix it just fine... not dangerous either
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: or you could edit it and dsable all plugins
[20:38] <rainerf> stdin: never mind, i got it, installing ruby1.8-dev wasn't a bad idea ;)
[20:39] <karthikp> Okay. So long then. Thanks for listening! (I disabled all plugins and turned on desktop effects and landed in this mess:( )
[20:39] <rainerf> stdin: is there any mechanism to build it and roll a .deb out of it? or should i straight away make/make install it?
[20:40] <ScorpKing> s0u][ight: can you use a livecd instead?
[20:40] <andre> nosrednaekim, yes i have, but it doesnt work
[20:40] <stdin> rainerf: making a deb (properly) isn't an easy process. but if it's just for you (on your system) look at checkinstal
[20:40] <andre> from "konsole" to "kate"
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: if its on the MB, its not hardware
[20:41] <s0u][ight> ok
[20:41] <s0u][ight> nope don't have the live cd
[20:41] <rainerf> stdin: yeah, i've read about it once, wanted to try it anyways;)... thanks a lot!
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: well, which MB do you have? maybe it is HW
[20:42] <s0u][ight> msi p4m900m2
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:45] <rakan> hello, i am trying to install pidgin 1.3.1 but it needs libpango >= 1,8.3 and i have 1.8.2
[20:45] <rakan> where can i find a .deb package for libpango?
[20:45] <rakan> it's not on getdeb
[20:48] <nexamac> rakan: did you even bother googling that one? :<
[20:48] <rakan> yup
[20:48] <rakan> didn't find a deb package
[20:48] <nexamac> ah
[20:49] <rakan> not even a website for this lib
[20:50] <nexamac> cant even find 1.8.3 oO
[20:50] <nexamac> like.. at al
[20:50] <nexamac> all
[20:50] <nexamac> stupid mac keyboard
[20:54] <rainerf> stdin: just to let you know, require 'korundum4' just worked :)
[20:54] <rainerf> stdin: thanks very much for your help!
[20:54] <stdin> :)
[20:54] <rakan> is there an application that can download apps from svn, compile them and install all at once? i mean something that can spare me compiling from source because i am a complete n00b
[20:55] <rakan> like jhbuild for gnome
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !info konpile
[20:55] <buzukelis> hi. i wana begin to programing php. what software i shoud chose from synaptic package manager?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !info kompile
[20:55] <ubotu> Package konpile does not exist in gutsy
[20:55] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 172 kB, installed size 908 kB
[20:58] <jughead> is there a tutorial for typing special characters in kubuntu gutsy?  I need to do a beta sign and there's no character map program like windows
[20:58] <rakan> kompile is installed, what is the differance between profiled install and standard?
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> rakan: no idea,never used it before :)
[20:59] <trappist> rakan: just a guess, but it sounds like you can configure a profile with options, or accept the defaults (standard)
[21:00] <rakan> thanks
[21:00] <rakan> does it get dependencies if they are not installed by default?
[21:01] <trappist> probably not.  that would be really hard to do.
[21:01] <trappist> what are you building, btw?
[21:01] <rakan> i am trying to build libpango any version >= 1.18.3 for pidgin 1.3.1
[21:02] <rakan> because kubuntu repos have 1.2.1 deb package and did not find the newer version
[21:02] <rakan> on getdeb i found 1.3.1 pidgin package but requires the new libpango
[21:02] <rakan> no deb package for that
[21:02] <rakan> :(
[21:02] <trappist> rakan: if you're on gutsy you should have 1.18.3
[21:02] <rakan> i am on gutsy
[21:02] <trappist> but, don't install libpango from source.  you'll break a lot of stuff.
[21:02] <trappist> rakan: dpkg -i libpango1.0-0
[21:03] <rakan> hold on
[21:03] <trappist> there is also a pidgin package
[21:03] <bmk789> GASP! KDE4 release and i didnt notice it!!!!
[21:04] <rakan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:04] <rakan>  libpango1.0-0
[21:04] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: you should probably wait for KDE 4.1
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: gimme your tin-foil had!
[21:04] <trappist> rakan: ack sorry, I meant dpkg -l
[21:04] <bmk789> TheFuzzball: why?? it buggy?
[21:05] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: yea
[21:05] <rakan> trappist: dpkg -l libpando1.0-0?
[21:05] <trappist> rakan: except spell pango right :)
[21:05] <ubuntu_> hola
[21:05] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: I've been building from trunk for the last few months and it still needs some work :)
[21:05] <ubuntu_> do you speak spanish ?
[21:05] <trappist> !es
[21:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:05] <ubuntu_> thanks
[21:05] <bmk789> TheFuzzball: if i install it will i be able to revert to 3.x?
[21:06] <trappist> bmk789: it installs alongside 3.x so you can choose when you log in
[21:06] <rakan> trappist: seems like -l gave some info and it says that libpango is v1.18.2
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: I have found it stable, but lacking in features
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: you should have an option for KDE3 and KDE4 in KDM
[21:06] <bmk789> ah
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: if you don't it installs to /opt/kde4/bin/startkde so just create a l
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> damn
[21:07] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: make a link to it in /usr/share/xsessions
[21:07] <bmk789> ok
[21:07] <trappist> rakan: are you *sure* you're running gutsy?
[21:08] <rakan> 100% gutsy gibbon 7.10
[21:08] <trappist> rakan: possibly mine came from the backports repo, checking now...
[21:09] <DrakeJustice_> no one here would want to help me compile kdelibs trunk would they? a certain function has an undefined reference
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> TheFuzzball: in kubuntu it install to /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[21:09] <rakan> trappist: kk
[21:10] <rakan> trappist: The cd i installed gutsy from was sent to me by canonical themselves
[21:10] <trappist> rakan: 1.18.2 is in main, 1.18.3 is gutsy-proposed
[21:10] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: did I not say that?
[21:10] <bmk789> kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed    ???
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> TheFuzzball: you said /opt
[21:10] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: ah, yea, I built mine from trunk
[21:11] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: got a bit mixed up :p
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: disable the backports repository
[21:11] <trappist> rakan: so to get 1.18.3 you need to add a gutsy-proposed source to your sources.list
[21:11] <bmk789> o
[21:11] <trappist> rakan: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[21:12] <rakan> trappist: updating list
[21:13] <trappist> rakan: you'll get a lot of "beta" stuff from that repo, so you may want to turn it off after you've got what you need
[21:14] <rakan> trappist: ok i am downloading upgraded version of libpango, thanks alot man
[21:14] <DavidTalbot> hello i have a little problem with ndiswrapper... the driver is loaded and the device is present but in iwlist there are no wireless extensions... anyone had an idea?
[21:14] <trappist> rakan: anyway in general installing stuff straight from source is a bad idea.  espeically if you're replacing a system library like pango from source - that will break a lot of stuff
[21:14] <rakan> trappist: I noticed, My kubuntu now is asking me for full upgrade 199 MB :p
[21:15] <madolfia> tonton t la ?
[21:15] <trappist> rakan: yeah that's probably coming from gutsy-proposed
[21:15] <madolfia> mikaelo
[21:15] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: same error without backports
[21:15] <rakan> trappist: Thanks for the advice, installing from source is not just a bad idea to me but more like a hard one :D because broken dependencies make me nervous
[21:15] <madolfia_> allo
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: you are using the PPA?
[21:16] <bmk789> yes
[21:16] <trappist> rakan: that's what makes it a bad idea :)
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" after disabling backports?
[21:17] <bmk789> yes
[21:17] <bmk789> ill run it again
[21:17] <trappist> rakan: apt-cache rdepends libpango1.0-0 | wc -l   <-- that's how many packages depend on your version of libpango
[21:18] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: yes, same
[21:18] <rakan> trappist: I think canonical must take care and create a 1 click install to make it easy for people to run linux
[21:18] <terran4000> nexamac: Hey, you had a question for me?
[21:18] <nexamac> terran4000: ubuntu sucks :P!
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> stdin: any clue about bmk789's problem?  kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed?
[21:18] <nexamac> terran4000: need to get my HDTV to work with ubuntu >_>
[21:18] <terran4000> nexamac: That's what alcohol and kubuntu is for
[21:18] <egork> hi there, I am trying to get help with compiz on Kubuntu but all attempts to connect to #compiz give me name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect. Do I have to configure anything first?
[21:19] <NexaMac> terran4000: Kubuntu wont install :<
[21:19] <trappist> rakan: you have to balance making it easy with other things like security and stability.  if you make it too easy to do certain things, you'll have a lot more people breaking their machines because they're messing with stuff they're not ready for.
[21:19] <terran4000> NexaMac: o.O Won't install?
[21:19] <stdin> bmk789: have you tried a full upgrade yet via adept?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> egork: its #compiz-fusion
[21:19] <NexaMac> downloaded and burned out 3 times, separate downloads all correct according to checksum
[21:19] <NexaMac> yar gives me an error letting me know either the disc or my HDD is broken
[21:19] <rakan> trappist: I guess u r right, but this one is for desktop so something has to be sacrificed
[21:19] <terran4000> o.O
[21:19] <bmk789> stdin: yes i did "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[21:19] <terran4000> NexaMac: weird stuff
[21:19] <NexaMac> thing is, ive tried 3 CD's and 2 HDD's, so i gave up an fetched gnome ubuntu
[21:19] <NexaMac> seems to work find
[21:19] <NexaMac> fine*
[21:19] <stdin> bmk789: after "sudo apt-get update" ?
[21:20] <bmk789> yes
[21:20] <terran4000> NexaMac: okie doki. you need to connect to the HDTV right?
[21:20] <NexaMac> yep in a few secs 90% install
[21:20] <terran4000> Sure
[21:20] <rakan> trappist: anyway, thanks alot for ur help i really appreciate it
[21:20] <NexaMac> terran4000: i can connect it fine, getting the resolution set up is the real problem :)
[21:20] <stdin> bmk789: check if "kdebase-bin-kde3" or "kdebase-bin-kde4" is installed
[21:21] <trappist> rakan: it's pretty dang easy as linux distros go.  probably the easiest.  there's still progress to be made, but some things shouldn't be sacrificed.  for example it shouldn't let you override dependencies without really *really* trying, because that can have severe consequences.
[21:21] <egork> nosrednaekim: same thing. the only channel I seem to be able to connect to is #kubuntu
[21:21] <terran4000> NexaMac: Hm, it would depend on the type of connection and quality of TV
[21:21] <NexaMac> terran4000: XGA cable over DVI output
[21:21] <NexaMac> i dunno all the english terms as my local stores use norwegian as main language ;>
[21:21] <bmk789> stdin: the kde3 one is installed
[21:22] <NexaMac> terran4000: the resolution im trying to use is 1360x768
[21:22] <terran4000> NexaMac: So, DVI - DVI connection?
[21:22] <rakan> trappist: one question left, where did u get the "deb ... etc" from? i mean if i dont have it in my apt list, is there a website that can provide u with such a link?
[21:23] <NexaMac> terran4000: TV has XGA (or VGA if you prefer that term) and computer's got DVI
[21:23] <stdin> bmk789: ok, pastebin what "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" shows
[21:23] <NexaMac> holy..
[21:23] <lewix> hi
[21:23] <NexaMac> O_O
[21:23] <lewix> does someone use audacity
[21:23] <NexaMac> it skipped Grub and keyboard using a ps/2 port doesnt work
[21:23] <NexaMac> wtf
[21:24] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m3ca4b9db
[21:24] <terran4000> NexaMac: brb, gotta bitch out the b-word date from last night.
[21:25] <NexaMac> o_O
[21:25] <NexaMac> ill ask wtf that means when you get back tbh
[21:25] <stdin> bmk789: post what errors "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace" throws at you
[21:25] <terran4000> it's OT so IM me if you wanna talk about 'that'.
[21:25] <trappist> rakan: I don't remember where I got it, I just remember I had a nasty bug in a package, and when I went to report it on launchpad it had already been reported and fixed, and the fixed package was in the proposed repo, so I dug it up on google or something.
[21:25] <stdin> NexaMac: watch the language, using acronyms like that isn't acceptable here
[21:26] <NexaMac> :<
[21:26] <stdin> terran4000: you too, watch the language please
[21:26] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m2bb7211
[21:26] <trappist> uh
[21:26] <stdin> bmk789: ok, do the same for kdebase-workspace-bin
[21:27] <rakan> trappist: thanks alot really
[21:27] <terran4000> stdin: I know. My apologies. "She" just really got under my skin. I'm not one to speak like that in public.
[21:27] <rakan> trappist: talk to you later on.... bye
[21:27] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m294cc71a
[21:28] <stdin> hmm
[21:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: okie oki
[21:28] <terran4000> *doki
[21:28] <stdin> bmk789: you're on gutsy yes?
[21:28] <bmk789> yes, 64-bit if that makes a difference
[21:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: That is a odd resolution. Have you tried setting it manually in xorg.conf
[21:29] <stdin> bmk789: do you have gutsy-backports enabled?
[21:29] <bmk789> no, its commented out
[21:30] <stdin> bmk789: aright, on we go. see what error trying to install ksysguard-kde4 shows
[21:31] <NexaMac> terran4000: aye, to some degree
[21:31] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m1243faa6
[21:31] <NexaMac> terran4000: ive added the resolution, but only as 1360x768 i didnt do that freaky stuff where i explain all the numbers if you know what i mean
[21:32] <stdin> bmk789: and on to libplasma1 now
[21:32] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d6b63f573
[21:33] <stdin> bmk789: well that's just, odd
[21:33] <terran4000> NexaMac: Can you paste-bin that xorg file ... well, the screen section part?
[21:34] <bmk789> stdin: maybe a dependancy issue will the 64-bit packages?
[21:34] <NexaMac> terran4000: right now theres nothing in it that isnt autogenerated 100% fresh install still updating :<
[21:35] <lewix> do songs sound different on linux or its just an impression?
[21:35] <stdin> bmk789: possibly, try "sudo aptitude install kde4-core" aptitude is usually more verbose
[21:35] <terran4000> NexaMac: ah, alright. IM/tell/e-mail me when you're ready.
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> stdin: bmk789: BTW.... 64 bit works fine here..
[21:35] <marx2k_> lewix: linux changes the lyrics to include technical specifications of the MP3 or OGG compression mechanism
[21:35] <marx2k_> Youve never heard Britanny Spears until you've heard her discussing MP# loudness compression issues
[21:35] <marx2k_> MP3
[21:36] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d343a48e0
[21:36] <lewix> marx2k, funny
[21:37] <NexaMac> terran4000: aim? is there a apt-get?
[21:37] <lewix> nah seriouslt it does sound different
[21:37] <terran4000> NexaMac: Kopete, gaim
[21:37] <NexaMac> ah
[21:37] <marx2k_> lewix: probably just your sound settings :)
[21:37] <stdin> bmk789: try running "sudo apt-get update" again, see if that changes (you may have caught the archive at a bad moment)
[21:38] <bmk789> same :\
[21:39] <bmk789> wait
[21:39] <bmk789> not adept has updates again
[21:40] <egork> is this a problem with konversation or am I doing something wrong. I can not connect to any other irc channe.
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> egork: type this in and hit enter "/join #compiz-fusion" without the quotes
[21:41] <lewix> marx2k, its like it adds more base
[21:43] <bmk789> stdin: upgraded come postgresql/C package but same thing with kde4-core
[21:43] <egork> I am still getting the same error: 22:43] [Error] Connection to Server #compiz-fusion lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.
[21:43] <NexaMac> egork: did you type /server first? :>
[21:43] <stdin> egork: #compiz-fusion is a channel, not a server
[21:44] <family> how do you access the root terminal?
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> family: sudo -i
[21:44] <egork> no I did not. could you help me with the whole sequence? I am a newby in regard to IRC
[21:44] <NexaMac> all you type is "/join #compiz-fusion"
[21:44] <NexaMac> or "/j compiz-fusion"
[21:44] <stdin> bmk789: what does "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" show?
[21:44] <family> sudo -i k
[21:45] <family> oh beautiful
[21:45] <wesley> how can you install a font ? in kde4
[21:45] <egork> NexaMac: /j did it.
[21:46] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d152026b2
[21:46] <fizzz> how to start my kubuntu without the x server ?
[21:47] <egork> somehow konversation is a bit non-user-friendly, 'cause I have to ask how to join a channel. What do you think?
[21:47] <jpatrick> egork: /join #channel
[21:47] <bmk789> egork: its the same in almost all IRC clients
[21:48] <wesley> i got a ttf file how can i use the font ?
[21:48] <fizzz> how to start my kubuntu without the x server ?
[21:48] <NexaMac> konversation is far from not userfriendly :/
[21:49] <stdin> bmk789: that doesn't make sense to me, the dependencies it's showing aren't the same as what's in the packages...
[21:49] <NexaMac> why START it without the x server fizzz?
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: put "nox" in the boot options
[21:49] <egork> jpatrick: no, what you suggest planly does not work. The caveat is with the #. I can only join, if I do not use # infront of the channel
[21:49] <bmk789> stdin: want to see my sources.list?
[21:49] <stdin> bmk789: maybe that'd help
[21:50] <NexaMac> egork: then dont use it :|
[21:50] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d2f815f9e
[21:50] <egork> NexaMac: hey, I have spent half an hour to figure this out. I have configured FIrefox to call konversation for irc:// but it did not do it for me.
[21:50] <stdin> egork: in konversation /join #channel works for me and every other user I've seen.
[21:51] <blackflag> are there kde 4.0 packages for kubuntu 7.10?
[21:51] <fizzz> nox in boot opiton where that be ?
[21:51] <egork> stdin: may be I am on another planet :-)
[21:51] <ibou> i can' install libflashplayer.so on Konqueror
[21:51] <ibou> i have a bug report
[21:51] <NexaMac> # work here as well
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: press "e" on the grub menu
[21:51] <stdin> egork: best place to ask konversation questions is in #konversation
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> blackflag: yes
[21:51] <stdin> ibou: see the topic
[21:52] <egork> stdin: this is where I am heading now to :-)
[21:52] <blackflag> On my topic I dont see  ahint to kde 4.0!
[21:52] <fizzz> ok wherez this grub menu ?
[21:52] <ibou> stdin the topic is talking about the package. Im talking about the tarball from adobe website
[21:52] <holycow> !beryl
[21:52] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: thats where you select what to boot
[21:53] <NexaMac> terran4000? :o
[21:53] <holycow> !compiz
[21:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:53] <terran4000> NexaMac: hey.
[21:53] <fizzz> ok and just hit the e key
[21:53] <stdin> ibou: then what's the problem?
[21:53] <NexaMac> terran4000: im about ready now :<
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: right and follow the help
[21:53] <terran4000> NexaMac: blogging in the research group, one sec.
[21:53] <stdin> whyphy: please stop changing nicks
[21:53] <NexaMac> aight
[21:53] <stdin> bmk789: that looks fine
[21:53] <fizzz> k thankz
[21:54] <whyphy> hello guys i cant connect to the site https://help.ubuntu.com ... i have no idea why and i need some help with the installation of kubuntu
[21:55] <ibou> stdin: i have a bug report when im trying it. I installed it by copying it in ~/.mozilla/plugins and installing the package konqueror-nsplugins  to detect it.
[21:55] <jpatrick> whyphy: works here, mate
[21:55] <mps> hi, I'm a newbie ... is this the place to ask a quesiton about difficulties with upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[21:55] <ibou> stdin: konqueror is detecting it
[21:56] <jpatrick> !upgrade | mps
[21:56] <NexaMac> whyphy: can you connect to other webpages?
[21:56] <whyphy> yes
[21:56] <ubotu> mps: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:56] <NexaMac> whyphy: then either ubuntu.forums.org or ask in here imo
[21:57] <whyphy> and i tried also to connect to other "https" sites and it connects fine
[21:57] <mps> my Distrubtion Upgrade screen has hung at 96% of Installing the upgrades.  It says "installed openoffice.org-ked
[21:57] <stdin> ibou: still haven't seen what the problem is
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> mps: close the windows and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on the command line
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> *window
[21:58] <whyphy> ok so.. i had windows installed and i wanted to install ubuntu also. i made the partitions, i finished the installation but now i think i have to install a boot loader.. the installation didn't prompt me to do so
[21:58] <whyphy> now when i restart the computer it goes imidiatelly on windows
[21:58] <stdin> bmk789: can you try disabling the repository, running "sudo apt-get update" then re-enabling it and running "sudo apt-get update" again
[21:58] <whyphy> at this point i am from the live cd
[21:59] <NexaMac> whyphy: one HDD?
[21:59] <NexaMac> or several
[21:59] <whyphy> yes on a laptop
[21:59] <whyphy> one
[21:59] <NexaMac> hmm
[21:59] <NexaMac> tricky one then :O
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: reinstall, except do manual partitioning
[21:59] <NexaMac> sounds like what i would end up suggesting too
[22:00] <bmk789> ok
[22:00] <whyphy> i did manual partitioning
[22:00] <mps> nosrednaekim: even though it advises strongly to not close?
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> mps: yes
[22:00] <FaiDillinGer> can someone please help about kbluetooth on gutsy ?? i cant send files from mobile phone to pc, but i can do the opposite
[22:00] <whyphy> should i try it again?
[22:00] <fizzz> man i couldnt get it to do anything when i hit the e key just keeps loading kubuntu
[22:01] <whyphy> i did manual partitioning i selected the "/boot" and "/" partitions to be formated
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: you press e before hitting enter
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: yes
[22:01] <fizzz> i didnt hit anything
[22:01] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: does the phone discover the pc?
[22:01] <fizzz> it just counted down
[22:01] <fizzz> after i hit e
[22:01] <ibou> stdin: signal 11 (SIGSEGV) with nspluginviewer
[22:01] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: is the pc set up to allow others to connect?
[22:02] <mps> dpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure):
[22:02] <mps>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[22:02] <whyphy> but... will it prompt me to install a boot loader?
[22:02] <whyphy> i mean should it?
[22:02] <NexaMac> whyphy: it shouldnt
[22:02] <terran4000> NexaMac: sorry about that. Now where were we?
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: no, it shouldn't
[22:02] <NexaMac> grub should be installed by default whyphy
[22:02] <NexaMac> terran4000: are you getting payed for this?
[22:03] <NexaMac> terran4000: then why say sorry?
[22:03] <NexaMac> :)
[22:03] <mps> dpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:03] <NexaMac> clean xorg.conf, need to add 1360x768
[22:03] <terran4000> NexaMac: I'm too kind for my own good.
[22:03] <NexaMac> ;o
[22:03] <stdin> ibou: yes, that's known
[22:03] <FaiDillinGer> NexaMac: i have no idea :(
[22:03] <bmk789> stdin: gives the same thing :\
[22:03] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: good boy :p
[22:03] <ibou> stdin: the bug report lead me to think that the bug is from konqueror-nsplugins...
[22:03] <FaiDillinGer> NexaMac: but yes, the phone discovers the pc
[22:04] <stdin> ibou: the bug is actually in flash
[22:04] <ibou> stdin: what do you mean by : "yes, that's known" ?
[22:04] <stdin> ibou: it means that's a known issue already
[22:04] <ibou> !flash
[22:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:04] <nexamac> for the love of..
[22:04] <terran4000> nexamac: welcome back: http://pastebin.com/m43709b71
[22:05] <NexaMac> :<
[22:05] <ibou> stdin:  i can see it on the !flash topic ?
[22:05] <stdin> ibou: that's another issue altogether
[22:05] <Zombocom> !flash
[22:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:05] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:05] <Zombocom> lol
[22:05] <ibou> stdin:  where to learn about my issue ?
[22:05] <Zombocom> because he says !gnash
[22:06] <terran4000> NexaMac: well, I'm not 100% sure about the DefaultDepth part (if it's needed or not). But that should work as you need it to.
[22:06] <stdin> ibou: search on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and http://bugs.kde.org
[22:06] <ibou> stdin:  ok thanks
[22:07] <ibou> stdin: but do you know a way to fix it ?
[22:07] <ibou> stdin:  becaus since i'm french i fight to find things on english forums...
[22:08] <stdin> ibou: I believe the issue is with the flash plugin itself, not actually with nspluginviewer. the only "fix" would be some workaround in the code of nspluginviewer
[22:08] <stdin> ibou: there's nothing you can do about it for now, except use another browser
[22:08] <ibou> stdin: yes that's what im thinkint too. I hope the fix will come soon
[22:09] <ibou> stdin: thanks
[22:09] <stdin> no problem
[22:09] <NexaMac> terran4000: set the resolution to 1024x768 :/
[22:10] <NexaMac> thats 246 pixels in width less then i want :<
[22:10] <NexaMac> err
[22:10] <NexaMac> 346
[22:10] <NexaMac> gah
[22:10] <NexaMac> nvm
[22:10] <NexaMac> its less :p
[22:10] <terran4000> NexaMac: haha.
[22:10] <FaiDillinGer> roger that
[22:10] <terran4000> NexaMac: well, I also know that xga won't get you HD
[22:11] <NexaMac> no but it works pretty well with winlol xp
[22:11] <NexaMac> *awaits the ban*
[22:11] <terran4000> NexaMac: Don't worry. They'd probably use the hammer on me way before on you.
[22:11] <NexaMac> :p
[22:12] <whyphy> can i check somehow if grub is already installed?
[22:12] <hdevalence> I'm having problems with samba
[22:12] <fizzz> i still couldnt get it to work man hit the e ley and enter before it counted down
[22:12] <hdevalence> it gives me "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall."
[22:12] <NexaMac> whyphy: load up a livecd, check the root for /boot/grub
[22:12] <hdevalence> but it workde befor and I din't change anything
[22:12] <NexaMac> terran4000: i forgot to mention, theres 2 monitors currently hooked up :>
[22:12] <hdevalence> err worked before; didn't
[22:13] <terran4000> NexaMac: Two monitors AND a HDTV? o.O
[22:13] <NexaMac> nono
[22:13] <NexaMac> HDTV and a monitor
[22:13] <terran4000> Ah
[22:13] <NexaMac> and a macbook between ;| and several behind me if you wish to know :P
[22:13] <icewaterman> i am looking for a software to secure my usb stick. it has to work both on linux and windows and should not require administrative privileges because i might not have those privileges wherever i go and want to use that stick
[22:14] <hdevalence> icewaterman: check out truecrypt
[22:14] <icewaterman> hdevalence: requires admin privileges
[22:14] <fizzz> trying to start my kubuntu with loading the x server any ideas ??
[22:14] <icewaterman> pretty much every application that gives you virtual drives does.
[22:14] <NexaMac> startx
[22:15] <hdevalence> icewaterman: what about creating an unencryped FAT32 partition and put the encrypted volume as a file there?
[22:15] <fizzz> trying to start my kubuntu without  loading the x server any ideas ??
[22:15] <hdevalence> wouldn't that let the automounter do the work?
[22:15] <terran4000> NexaMac: so, it currently the monitor/hd setup works?
[22:15] <icewaterman> hdevalence: the point is all about you need to be admin to load the drivers.
[22:16] <indystorm> hey is there an easy way to install apps in kubuntu?
[22:16] <icewaterman> for the virtual drive that is. while this is an elegant solution if you have admin privileges it is a painful one if you do not.
[22:16] <stdin> !adept | indystorm
[22:16] <ubotu> indystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[22:16] <bmk789> stdin: give up?
[22:16] <hdevalence> icewaterman: ie the issue is that you won't have tc installed on any box?
[22:17] <nexamac> holy cake that one is getting old
[22:17] <nexamac> wts backspace key
[22:17] <stdin> bmk789: I really can't see why that's happening, I have a gutsy system and can install from scratch (just tested)
[22:17] <icewaterman> hdevalence: both that and i do not have privileges to install truecrypt  (i.e. at university)
[22:17] <hdevalence> icewaterman: what about including a binary that you can run as a user?
[22:17] <nexamac> fizzz: im not registered
[22:17] <icewaterman> hdevalence: and truecrypt traveller mode requires admin privileges in order to USE it
[22:18] <fizzz> trying to get my linux to run with out the x server
[22:18] <fizzz> so i can install my video drivers
[22:18] <hdevalence> icewaterman: tbh, I'm not a tc expert.
[22:18] <bmk789> stdin: would ssh access help?
[22:18] <NexaMac> fizzz: can you get into x?
[22:18] <Zombocom> my friend's computer when he boots it up
[22:18] <Zombocom> tries looking up drivers online or something
[22:19] <NexaMac> if so, just ctrl+alt+F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:19] <NexaMac> kdm*
[22:19] <whyphy> i am in with the Kubuntu live cd, i mounted my boot partition to /mnt/sda3 and i checked that no grub is installed
[22:19] <hdevalence> icewaterman: perhaps ask on the tc irc channel or on their mailinglist
[22:19] <whyphy> or lilo... how can i install one?
[22:19] <NexaMac> whyphy: man grub :x
[22:19] <icewaterman> hdevalence: i know truecrypt, and i know it is not going to be a solution for my problem because of the way it works
[22:19] <icewaterman> thats why i do not need help with tc at all
[22:20] <stdin> bmk789: probably not (and it's not a great idea to give ssh access to strangers ;). I don't know why it's acting like that, but the packages will eventually all be in gutsy-backports to you could just wait, or try the liveCD
[22:20] <indystorm> ok so I am using adept. but I already have a program I want to run.... it's adobe flash, but it says I need netscape navigator... I tried to download netscape and it isn't listed with adept. Does that mean its not supported with ubuntu?
[22:20] <bmk789> ok
[22:20] <hdevalence> icewaterman: oh, i see.
[22:21] <stdin> indystorm: you install the flash package from adept
[22:21] <NexaMac> indystorm: it means netscape is oldschool :>
[22:21] <hdevalence> icewaterman: perhaps they might be able to point you towards another product.
[22:21] <NexaMac> try netscape.com or something :/
[22:22] <whyphy> ok for installing grub from a livecd should a changeroot?
[22:22] <icewaterman> hdevalence: afaik there is no tc channel at all
[22:22] <icewaterman> but i might be wrong about that.
[22:24] <DreadKnight> konqueror acts as a ftp client too right?
[22:25] <stdin> doesn't "act", it is :)
[22:25] <TimS> I have installed PHPMyAdmin but I dont know how to accesss it, what port is it on?
[22:25] <demetrio> hello
[22:25] <DreadKnight> good..
[22:26] <terran4000> NexaMac: You know where to find me if you need me. I'll be around doing some work.
[22:26] <demetrio> someone can explain to me why konqueroro cannot go out to internet?
[22:27] <DreadKnight> stdin: how do i connect? i've got an address, an user and a passwork? i go to the address and then i'm prompted to insert user/pass?
[22:27] <TimS> !PHPMyAdmin
[22:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:27] <DreadKnight> d*
[22:28] <NexaMac> terran4000: aye, thanks again for your time, gonna go relax and play some games, later :)
[22:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: cheers.
[22:28] <DreadKnight> !ftp
[22:28] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:28] <fizzz> can somebody give me some help
[22:28] <stdin> DreadKnight: depends on the settings of the server, if it accepts anonymous connections. konqueror will try that first
[22:29] <NexaMac> demetrio: try firefox, if that doesnt work either, specifiy your network card
[22:29] <DreadKnight> stdin: and if not ? is there a 'format' i should introduce all the data in the address bar?
[22:29] <demetrio> NexaMac: yes firefox work fine i have problem with konqueror