[04:22] <jrib> deny_: go to system76.com then /etc and then free stuff
[04:22] <oxygene_> or maybe you have webspace without php-support
[04:22] <brian_> use vmware-config.pl
[04:22] <Arafangion> brian98: Most people only need one useful PC ;)
[04:22] <brian98> Rasta, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[04:22] <G_Dragon> I'm trying to set up the sound to work on ubuntu, so I went to the help site, tried their suggestion, and still wound up with no sound.
[04:23] <rustlerharv> oxygene_:  its local
[04:23] <rustlerharv> in localhost
[04:23] <oxygene_> the same machine you run firefox on?
[04:23] <Aaroncn> hi everyone. I installed a vmware-server, but it cannot be started. it says: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. use vmware-config.pl to configure
[04:24] <oxygene_> then your "client" is also your "server". are you using apache?
[04:24] <brian98> Arafangion, I'm just saying it can breed new life!
[04:24] <rustlerharv> ive had this working before but now its being a pain
[04:24] <deny_> jrib, i got it to work, off the google cache
[04:24] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:24] <Arafangion> brian98: :)
[04:24] <brian98> Really :)
[04:24] <jrib> deny_: oh ok
[04:24] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you have php installed?
[04:24] <kjm> Aaroncn - ok - so, where's the question there?
[04:24] <rustlerharv> my overall goal is to get mythtv working
[04:24] <brian_> run vmware-config.pl
[04:24] <rustlerharv> i should
[04:25] <oxygene_> did you restart apache?
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: The ideal system to replace this box would be something that just has a wireless nic, usb port, a power connection, and measures 1"/3"/6" or something :)
[04:25] <brian98> Arafangion, and if the only thing not working is the mouse.,
[04:25] <Rasta> brian98, thanks dude, good link
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: Running Debian, of course.
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: thanks. what i have done is: I install build-essential
[04:25] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: The mouse is merley the most apparent issue.
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: and check the kernal version is gcc 4.0
[04:25] <brian98> Arafangion, a - get the mouse working - b buy a usb mouse or ps/2 mouse :)
[04:25] <Arafangion> Aaroncn: I didn't realise that was a kernel version!
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: and install linux headers
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: Only spare USB port is used by the printer.
[04:25] <kjm> Aaroncn - you'll only need perl to run vmware-config.pl I believe.
[04:25] <brian98> ps/2
[04:26] <brian98> ??
[04:26] <Arafangion> brian98: PS/2 port is broken.
[04:26] <brian98> haha
[04:26] <brian98> ok
[04:26] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:26] <rustlerharv> do you know how to restart apache in comand line
[04:26] <brian98> then follow the link
[04:26] <Arafangion> brian98: Actually, the port is fine, but the system becomes _very_ unstable if you use it ;)
[04:26] <unfknblvbl> get a usb hub to run the printer and mouse ?
[04:26] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:26] <mkquist> G-Dragon - still looking for sound help?
[04:26] <G_Dragon> Yup
[04:26] <Aaroncn> kjm: I run vmwae-config.pl, it poped a lot options. and I just press enter to accept default setting.
[04:26] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, sudo apache2ctl restart
[04:26] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I have a problem with spending money on _crap_ systems.
[04:26] <brian98> Arafangion, sounds like a bios prob - try
[04:27] <Arafangion> brian98: I suspect a chipset problem.
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> usb hub is not an extravagant expense
[04:27] <mkquist> G-Dragon - try this page  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[04:27] <brian98> google are giving them away ;)
[04:27] <kjm> ok........but you should *read* what the options are. . .but yes, defaults are *usually* sage
[04:27] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: For you, perhaps.
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:27] <mkquist> G-Dragon - helped me get mine going
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> well its linux so you don't need a mouse
[04:27] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I'm a full time unemployeed uni student. :)
[04:27] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, scroll down to " Apache HTTP Server"
[04:27] <Aaroncn> kjm: it seems that vmware-config compile something. When the config get done, vmware-server doesn't work still.
[04:27] <G_Dragon> Alright, checking it out.
[04:28] <brian98> Arafangion,         Option          "Device"                "/dev/ttys0"
[04:28] <brian98>         Option          "Protocol"              "Auto"
[04:28] <Aaroncn> kjm: Honestly, i don't where the problem is.
[04:28] <brian98> in your xorg.conf
[04:28] <brian98> thats in etc/X11
[04:28] <Arafangion> brian98: Can I change that without installing Ubuntu?
[04:28] <birdfish> Is there a version of the Berkely DB installed on ubuntu server 6.06 initially?
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> Arafangion: dole ?
[04:28] <brian98> no
[04:28] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: FULL TIME STUDENT.
[04:28] <brian98> but when you get ubuntu installed
[04:28] <brian98> hit ctrl-alt-f1 sudo nano that file
[04:28] <kjm> dunno what to say then. .. .not a vmware expert
[04:28] <Arafangion> brian98: I suppose at a pinch I might be able to find a spare HDD and try that...
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> i meant
[04:29] <brian98> then ctrl - alt - f7
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> you still get soem money form the govt. if your studying
[04:29] <oxygene_> brian98, is /etc/X11/xorg.conf read-only?
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> not dole but someting close to it
[04:29] <brian98> not if you sudo it
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> unless your parents are earning big
[04:29] <feross> birdfish: uhm like postmap? I know that creates db files.
[04:29] <oxygene_> yeah, so he should be able to test it without actually installing ubuntu
[04:29] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: Define "big".
[04:29] <brian98> Arafangion, after you make those changes ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> unfknblvbl: What country is this that you get free money?
[04:29] <brian98> and you should be having a small chuckle
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> oh right australia
[04:30] <Arafangion> brian98: I'm not a linux newbie, just worried that getting it to work on this particular system might be more work than I care to do.
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> forgot this is not ozzie channel
[04:30] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I'm Aussie.
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[04:30] <birdfish> feross: well, I'm not sure if I need postmap or not.  But I'm trying to create a db file for vsftpd so that I can enable virtual users support =]
[04:30] <oxygene_> Arafangion, just trying will be probably faster than discussing for hours ;)
[04:30] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: APparently my parents earn too much, but that sentiment is only shared by Centerlink.
[04:30] <brian98> Arafangion, half the fun on older systems sometimes
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> when i wasn't working i got money even though i was full time student, infact i ahd to be full time to get it
[04:30] <brian98> Arafangion, but it will run so much nice
[04:30] <Aaroncn> kjm: I think my problem is that I don't know how to correctly configure vmware.
[04:30] <brian98> r
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> er
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> then get your parents to buy you the damn hub
[04:30] <Arafangion> brian98: Back in the day I would attempt to get Gentoo working on a 64MB system.
[04:31] <feross> birdfish: yeah I would look into it.
[04:31] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:31] <Arafangion> brian98: That day has come and gone ;)
[04:31] <cpl-tnt44> i got a problem installing WinXP SP2 on my laptop ... it stuck from an HD install on the copying files stage .. what should i do ?
[04:31] <kjm> Aaroncn -  well -  that would probably be a start.
[04:31] <unfknblvbl> there is one other path, is your computer insured Arafangion ?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> cpl-tnt44, you do know what channel is this right ?
[04:31] <brian98> Arafangion, ubuntu has run out of the box on every system that I've tried in the past 6 months on older boxes sure you need to change some settings etc.... But try installing windowsxp on that box and see how you get on
[04:32] <cpl-tnt44> i know ,im trying to install combined XP and ubuntu
[04:32] <brian98> and I'm not a windows basher btw
[04:32] <cpl-tnt44> i  need xp for stockmarkets program since ubuntu cant run internet explorer...
[04:32] <G_Dragon> Alright, fixed.
[04:32] <G_Dragon> Thanks!
[04:32] <xenoNfluX> brian98, ditto :)
[04:32] <Aaroncn> kjm: i follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html guide,but it doesn't work to me.
[04:32] <oxygene_> yes but asking here for windows xp help is not the right place ;)
[04:32] <phargle> ubuntu could run ie
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> cpl-tnt44, we can help after you have successfully installed win XP ... but not with installation of win XP ..
[04:32] <mkquist> G-Dragon - glad to help
[04:32] <birdfish> feross: sure =)  And while I'm at it, if I wanted to go ahead and install a version of the Berkely DB, does it really matter whether I go with db3 or db4?
[04:33] <brian98> unfknblvbl, that was a tabloid setup
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> thats okay
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> we all have secrets
[04:33] <xenoNfluX> cpl, talk to me in private
[04:33] <xenoNfluX> I MIGHT be able to help
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> thanks
[04:33] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:33] <brian98> unfknblvbl, that was a vista cd ;)
[04:33] <brian98> lol
[04:33] <feross> birdfish: I'm not sure about that.
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:34] <cpl-tnt44> Xeno come privet
[04:34] <sureshot> brian98 as long it is a ms cd that is fine with me lol
[04:34] <birdfish> feross: okay, thanks anyhow dude =]
[04:34] <feross> sure
[04:34] <THX-1138> Hi feross
[04:34] <feross> hello
[04:34] <xenoNfluX> cpl-tnt44, where at?
[04:34] <xenoNfluX> I just sent you a PM
[04:34] <lufis> Since most sound cards can do hardware mixing, what is a sound server needed for?
[04:34] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , i got the files , now i got some sort of boot disket that winxp cant read ...
[04:35] <kjm> sureshot - pastebin your whole sources.list
[04:35] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, ok
[04:35] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , should i simply copy the files on the iso cd of ubuntu to a folder ?
[04:35] <sureshot> how do i use past bin kjm
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[04:35] <kjm> !pastebin > sureshot
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:35] <brian98> unfknblvbl, you need to format a: /sys first
[04:35] <brian98> sory unfknblvbl
[04:35] <unfknblvbl> brain98 0.o
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you need to format a: /sys first to make it bootable then copy the files on
[04:36] <Arafangion> Brendon: WinXP on that box? Hahahahaha!
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, easier
[04:36] <Arafangion> Brendon: You were joking, right?
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, go to bootdisk.com
[04:36] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 ... the raw and the imz u gave aint bootable ?
[04:37] <brian98> I'm a bit lost can you remind me again where I sent you :S
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , 2nd Q , what files i copy to where ?
[04:37] <brian98> so I don't have to scroll back !
[04:37] <Arafangion> Brendon: For most boot floppies on windows, I recommend rawwrite.
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> u sent me to download rawrite2.exe sbm.bin
[04:37] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: i still cant get it to open
[04:37] <brian98> ahh yes
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> to install ubuntu from a HD
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> not from a bootable cd
[04:38] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, no
[04:38] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, did you follow the tutorial?
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[04:38] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, from a cd that your bios won't let you boot from ?
[04:38] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> no ...
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> i have a laptop with NO CD-ROM installed at all !
[04:38] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, php4 or php5?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> 5
[04:39] <cpl-tnt44> and i was asking how to install ubuntu from a none bootable source
[04:39] <oxygene_> you did sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> the php works
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, ye
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, yes
[04:39] <brian98> do you have a cd-rom?
[04:39] <oxygene_> but what's wrong then?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> i just did the test
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, but non bootable
[04:39] <rustlerharv> looks like phpmyadmin
[04:40] <oxygene_> what's the URL in your browser?
[04:40] <sureshot> kjm it is in postbin but how do you see it
[04:40] <oxygene_> postbin gives you a link, sureshot
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> sureshot, you paste to us the link ...
[04:40] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , No i dont a cd rom drive , yes i have a bootable disk of ubuntu
[04:40] <brian98> what kind of disk
[04:40] <brian98> ?
[04:40] <rustlerharv> URL to what
[04:40] <cpl-tnt44> regular cd
[04:40] <sureshot> i figured that out sorry kjm there is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25369/
[04:40] <xenoNfluX> a laptop with a cd-rom that's not bootable... eh?
[04:40] <oxygene_> what do you type in firefox to see your page that ist not working?
[04:41] <xenoNfluX> are you sure you checked the boot order in the BIOS?
[04:41] <cpl-tnt44> No a lap top with no cd room at all !!!
[04:41] <brian98> But you have no cd-rom in your pc
[04:41] <rustlerharv> http://localhost/phpmadmin
[04:41] <cpl-tnt44> in my PC i have a cd rom
[04:41] <unfknblvbl> how do u check what version of gnome your running ?
[04:41] <oxygene_> what kind of error do you get, rustlerharv ?
[04:41] <brian98> ok
[04:41] <sureshot> kjm it is line 34 that is malformed
[04:41] <rustlerharv> it tries to dl the phtml file
[04:41] <brian98> ok
[04:41] <oxygene_> it is .phtml?
[04:41] <rustlerharv> instead of opeing int
[04:41] <oxygene_> not .php?
[04:42] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:42] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, any  usb mem hdds
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> ok ok ?
[04:42] <oxygene_> that will be the problem
[04:42] <feross> cpl-tnt44: sounds difficult
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> YES
[04:42] <rustlerharv> phtml is a php file i belive
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> usb 1.1
[04:42] <eetfunk> can anyone point me to a good php4/fastcgi/apache2/ubuntu tutorial?  I found this one: http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4 but it doesnt seem to work.  When I access a php file, it tries to download it instead of actually running it
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> no boot from desktop on that ...
[04:42] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, one sec
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> !lamp
[04:42] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:43] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you have a file /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf?
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, this is a bit of a read
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> Situation is like this : Laptop Compaq Armada M300 , External Floopy drive (COM1) ,NO CDROM  DRIVE ...
[04:43] <sureshot> kjm did you get the post sorry to push just dont know what to do
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[04:43] <birdfish> Anyone here know about PureFTP?
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you ready to give it a go!
[04:43] <brian98> ?
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> yeap !
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> give it to me baby
[04:44] <cpl-tnt44> can u just say a few words on that , what is the general idea ?
[04:44] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:44] <oxygene_> for php4 it should contain a line like "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3"
[04:44] <oxygene_> it will be similar for you
[04:44] <oxygene_> add .phtml
[04:44] <oxygene_> to the line
[04:44] <eetfunk> wickedpuppy: this is for mod_php, i need fastcgi
[04:44] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, is there any os on the machine at the moment
[04:44] <brian98> ?
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> !fastcgi
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fastcgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <rustlerharv> its there
[04:45] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, then save it, and restart apache once again
[04:45] <rustlerharv> ^
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> eetfunk, guess no link here for the fastcgi ...
[04:45] <feross> cpl-tnt44: I hope it has a network card... installing ubuntu from floppy would be rediculous ;P
[04:45] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, the problem was that .phtml is not a commonly used extension for php-files so apache did not know by default that these are .php files to be executed by the php-interpreter
[04:46] <brian98> what feross said!
[04:46] <rustlerharv> so how do we fix it
[04:46] <oxygene_> feross, I remember installing windows95 from like 16 floppies... that was fun!
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 nope
[04:46] <feross> floppies hehe
[04:46] <brian98> what pc are you on now!
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> a good one...
[04:46] <brian98> what operating system
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> XP SP2 , AMD
[04:47] <brian98> how pc proficient are you?
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> my HD from the laptop is on that PC
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> now..
[04:47] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, as I told you. edit /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[04:47] <brian98> ahhhh
[04:47] <brian98> you never said that
[04:47] <rustlerharv> what you told me to edit was there
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> PC tech guy for 7 years
[04:47] <brian98> you could use pxe
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> i am now...
[04:47] <oxygene_> add .phtml at the end of the line containing x-httpd-php add
[04:47] <brian98> but if you have the install hdd in that pc now
[04:47] <brian98> then!
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> i never tried it and i dont think it has a network card...
[04:48] <oxygene_> ah, sorry, i didn't read it
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, set it as the default hdd
[04:48] <oxygene_> what does the line say?
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> thought in the boot it shows PXE on laptop
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, then boot from the cd
[04:48] <brian98> and setup ubuntu on the hdd from laptop
[04:48] <vilefridge> quick question-  Let's say I have Windows previously installed on hda and just Ubuntu installed on hdb.  Where did the bootloader go?
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> the small 2.5 inch as a default ?
[04:48] <sureshot> kjm are you on
[04:48] <brian98> yes
[04:48] <vilefridge> hda or hdb?
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, when it's finished installing
[04:49] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, reboot.
[04:49] <brian98> then power down
[04:49] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, check if there is a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to the file in mods-available
[04:49] <brian98> and swap hdd's back
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> u mean just to let it drop the files ...
[04:49] <brian98> no go through the setup
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> brian98, perhaps if you say all this in one line .. he can understand it better ?
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> and when it done and reboots bring it back to the laptop
[04:49] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:49] <rustlerharv> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[04:49] <brian98> wickedpuppy,
[04:49] <brian98> Ok
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> brian
[04:50] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, make your 2.5 your primary, then install ubuntu from cd onto it. When it finishes installing let it reboot. Then after ubuntu gracefully exits and you get the bios screen back power down the machine and put the 2.5 back into the laptop.
[04:50] <brian98> wickedpuppy,  better?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> yeap
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> brian98, amazing :P
[04:51] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you wanna try it?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i just wrote it down back :)
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i am already on it...
[04:51] <MrWok> Hi
[04:51] <brian98> wickedpuppy, Sarcasm...
[04:51] <brian98> tut tut
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i just need to find my 2.5 inch to 3.5inch plugger
[04:51] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:52] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: cgi.load  php5.conf  php5.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load
[04:52] <oxygene_> sureshot, try adding main to the last line in your sources.list
[04:52] <rustlerharv> thats what i have
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> since u cant connect to laptop HDD to a PC...
[04:52] <MrWok> I have just started up Xubuntu, and it auto detects my NIC, and I can access my routers page, but not any web pages. Any ideas?
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> but reading line after line can be very painful ... and prone to mistake
[04:52] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, that's really strange.
[04:52] <brian98> I know
[04:52] <brian98> apologies
[04:52] <brian98> just when it's coming out sometimes you hit enter
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> accepted... its YOM KIPOR
[04:53] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, are you sure that restarting works?
[04:53] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, I thought you had it connected already
[04:53] <feross> MrWok: you probably don't have DNS setup
[04:53] <sureshot> oxygene i will try that if you wish to see the whole file here is the postbin url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25369/
[04:53] <rustlerharv> no error messages apear
[04:53] <oxygene_> try sudo apache2ctl stop, then check with ps aux|grep apache2 if apache is dead
[04:53] <oxygene_> and then sudo apache2ctl start ist back
[04:53] <MrWok> feross, would that be with my router or xubuntu
[04:54] <oxygene_> MrWok, does your router support DHCP?
[04:55] <MrWok> Yeah
[04:55] <oxygene_> and it's turned on?
[04:55] <MrWok> The router is fine, I'm using it with my Win XP box now.
[04:55] <MrWok> Yeah
[04:55] <rustlerharv> oxygene_:  should i not get anything when i do the ps thing
[04:55] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, yes
[04:55] <feross> MrWok: look at your /etc/network/interfaces file.. the network card that connects to the internet should have something like iface eth1 inet dhcp
[04:55] <MrWok> The Xubuntu has got the ip <IP_ADDRESS> it can access the router setup pages just not web pages
[04:55] <Rasta> :( seems that running photoshop with wine doesnt seems to work well
[04:55] <oxygene_> could you please post the output of "ifconfig" and "route" to pastebin?
[04:55] <rustlerharv> lance     9534  0.0  0.0   2804   752 pts/1    R+   22:54   0:00 grep apache2
[04:55] <rustlerharv> i get that
[04:55] <sureshot> ok what does the uname -r mean in a install line
[04:55] <oxygene_> thats ok rustlerharv
[04:56] <mneptok> MrWok: can you access web sites by IP address instead of name?
[04:56] <MrWok> One sec
[04:56] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, I'm out of ideas :/
[04:56] <oxygene_> did you create any virtualhosts or custom aliases or the like?
[04:56] <kbee> sureshot: means get the linux kernel release
[04:57] <MrWok> mneptok: I can indeed
[04:57] <oxygene_> or is it the phpmyadmin from the ubuntu package?
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: then your problem is DNS
[04:57] <MrWok> How can I fix this?
[04:57] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:57] <brian98> wickedpuppy, how are you on wired IP issues?
[04:57] <sureshot> kbee do i just type it the way it shows uname -r or do i type somthing else there
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: in a Linux terminal, "cat /etc/resolv.conf" (no quotes)
[04:57] <brian98> weird
[04:57] <brian98> I meant
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> wired IP issue ?
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: that will tell you the DNS servers that Xubuntu knows about.
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> i never had any IP issue ...
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:58] <sureshot>     sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-common \
[04:58] <sureshot>     linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[04:58] <brian98> not to worry
[04:58] <kbee> sureshot: just   uname  -r   and carriage return  should display your current  linux kernel
[04:58] <rustlerharv> i got it
[04:58] <sureshot> sorry did not mean to do that but kbee that is the line
[04:58] <bun-bun> hi channel: if anyone plays counter-strike on linux i would like some info
[04:58] <brian98> just have a small annoyance here but it's not stopping me doing anything
[04:58] <rustlerharv> root is pissing me off
[04:58] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, ?
[04:58] <kbee> i thought you were doing this standalone
[04:59] <rustlerharv> i cant do anything without sudo
[04:59] <MrWok> mneptok: That doesn't work
[04:59] <brian98> rustlerharv, whats up
[04:59] <mneptok> MrWok: define "doesn't work"
[04:59] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, well you can't do anything that requires superuser priviledges without sudo
[04:59] <mneptok> rustlerharv: sudo su
[05:00] <rustlerharv> inorder to install anything you need to be root and when you do that you have to be root to use anyhting
[05:00] <MrWok> "cat: /etc/resolv.conf no such file or directory"
[05:00] <Arafangion> mneptok: You should be skinned alive!
[05:00] <MrWok> Was that meant to be resolve?
[05:00] <brian98> rustlerharv, whats the prob?
[05:00] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: What do you mean, "have to be root to use anything"?
[05:00] <oxygene_> yup, just start a bash session with sudo
[05:00] <brian98> you don't have to be root to use anything
[05:00] <mneptok> MrWok: uhhh ... you don;t have a file named /etc/resolv.conf ?
[05:00] <oxygene_> "sudo su" or "sudo bash" will do the trick
[05:01] <MrWok> No
[05:01] <brian98> os sudo -i
[05:01] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Just use "sudo apt-get install <whatever>", and that should be all you need.
[05:01] <mkquist> rustlerharv - new from windowz?
[05:01] <rustlerharv> ive been on since warty
[05:01] <warlock__> Anyone know where I can get help with building a shuttle?
[05:01] <rustlerharv> end of warty
[05:02] <bun-bun> if anyone is knowledgeable about half-life / counterstrike for linux i would appreciate your feedback
[05:02] <MrWok> Source or 1.6 bun-bun?
[05:02] <rustlerharv> i know you can get root privliges but i need it to do anything
[05:02] <bun-bun> 1.6
[05:02] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, define "anything"
[05:02] <mkquist> rustlerharv - what do u mean?
[05:02] <brian98> bun-bun http://lhl.linuxgames.com/howto/half-life-HOWTO-0.5.html
[05:02] <MrWok> I knew someone who has tried to get source working, and I heard about someone who was running it on 64 bit Gentoo
[05:03] <bun-bun> mainly, i want to know if there are linux binaries for hl/cs or if i should run it in wine
[05:03] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Running Firefox doesn't need root access, for one thing, so I'm finding it hard to figure out what you mean by "anything".
[05:03] <mneptok> MrWok: sudo echo search home > /etc/resolv.conf && sudo echo <IP_ADDRESS> >> /etc/resolv.conf && sudo echo <IP_ADDRESS> >> /etc/resolv.conf
[05:03] <rustlerharv> i need it to run gaim
[05:03] <bun-bun> brian98: thanks for the link
[05:03] <brian98> um
[05:03] <rustlerharv> and anything i install
[05:03] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, no, you dont
[05:03] <brian98> bun-bun, hope it helps ;)
[05:03] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Gaim works fine without root.
[05:03] <mkquist> rustlerharv - u shouldnt
[05:03] <rustlerharv> if i dont it wont connect to the internet
[05:03] <oxygene_> anything to install globally on your system, yes
[05:03] <oxygene_> but not for gaim
[05:04] <rustlerharv> im runnign beta 2
[05:04] <Arafangion> brian98: Come to think of it, I'm starting to think that he DID for some obscene reason initially run some things as root that he shouldn't have, and now he has various ~/.<files> owned by root.
[05:04] <mneptok> MrWok: you can substitute the DNS server addresses Windows uses for the ones i gave you
[05:04] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Try this: mkdir ~/configuration_backup
[05:04] <brian98> Arafangion, sounds about possible
[05:04] <mkquist> rustlerharv - im with brian98 on this one
[05:04] <SonicChao> Hi, I need an emulator for Ubuntu that will play GameBoy games (Pokemon Yellow)
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Move all your 'dot files' and 'dot directories' into ~/configuration_backup
[05:05] <brian98> SonicChao, google is your best mate!
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: You will probably have to do that as root if my guess is correct.
[05:05] <SonicChao> I've tried Google. None of them work. >>
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Then, now that you have no more "dot files", as it's all been moved to ~/configuration_backup, try restarting your session, and then running your programs as the normal user they should be run as!
[05:05] <taran> Hello.... can anyone help me with installing ubuntu so that my wife can still use Windows XP?
[05:05] <warlock__> Anyone know where I can get help with building a shuttle?
[05:06] <xenoNfluX> sonicchao, tried www.zophar.net ?
[05:06] <SonicChao> xenoNfluX: No
[05:06] <brian98> rustlerharv, if you type who at the console what username do you get back
[05:06] <MrWok> Well what's there to know really warlock_?
[05:06] <bun-bun> warlock__: www.nasa.gov
[05:06] <warlock__> hi, I'm 10 years old and my name is bun-bun.
[05:06] <mneptok> taran: what hep do you need?
[05:06] <rustlerharv> all me
[05:06] <xenoNfluX> lol, nice one bun-bun
[05:07] <rustlerharv> were am i moving dot files from
[05:07] <MrWok> I was going to say that earlier.
[05:07] <taran> Well, I'm not sure where to instal Ubuntu at... my F drive, or the partition(M:) on my main HD(C:)
[05:07] <Arafangion> taran: The key phrase is "dual-boot", I suggest you backup your system, with the assumption that the installation will kill it (Very unlikely, but I'm a pedantic person), install Ubuntu, resize your windows partitions to give room, and see how that works.
[05:07] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, try this: ls -alF /home/your_username |grep root
[05:07] <MrWok> warlock_ buy the parts and case, and fit it together. It's hardly rocket science (pun unintended)
[05:07] <bun-bun> :D
[05:07] <mneptok> taran: how many physical drives does your computer have?
[05:08] <taran> 2
[05:08] <Arafangion> taran: If windows got messed up, try deleting everything, install windows in a much smaller partition, reserving about 6 GB or however much you think you'll need for Ubuntu, then install Ubuntu in the free space.
[05:08] <oxygene_> that should show you all files owned by root
[05:08] <jo3y> ubuntu owns
[05:08] <brian98> rustlerharv, what username comes back
[05:08] <mneptok> taran: and where do you want Ubuntu? how much space do you want to give it? and where is Windows in all this?
[05:08] <UKMatt> How do you make a password protected archive in UB?
[05:08] <rustlerharv> root
[05:09] <brian98> mkquist, :)
[05:09] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Erm... You don't. YOu encrypt the file, just like anything else.
[05:09] <brian98> Arafangion, :)
[05:09] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, are you in a console started by sudo su or sudo bash?
[05:09] <rustlerharv> no
[05:09] <UKMatt> arafangion, hows that?
[05:09] <oxygene_> so you logon as root already?
[05:09] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Unless you want the crap-as-hell "password protected" zip archives, or the _joke_ ms word password protections?
[05:09] <taran> my main drive is a 200 gig, partitioned into ... uumm... roughly 80 and 120... (80 being my C drive and the residing place of Windows)
[05:09] <oxygene_> that is not default ubuntu behaviour since root has no password in standard ubuntu
[05:09] <brian98> oxygene_,  what about chmod his files to be rwx by his own username ?
[05:10] <UKMatt> arafangion, well how do you do.. both?
[05:10] <Arafangion> UKMatt: What do you mean?
[05:10] <mneptok> taran: k. do you use all space on both drives in Windows?
[05:10] <oxygene_> he could just re-own them to his main user account, too.
[05:10] <brian98> Ok
[05:10] <UKMatt> arafangion, alright nm i figured out how to do the .zip password, but how do you encrypt the file like you said
[05:11] <oxygene_> but if he already logs in as root, something more is screwed up ;)
[05:11] <taran> well, the M drive (the 120) just has videos on it
[05:11] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Why the heck are you depending your security on .zip password encryption?
[05:11] <oxygene_> taran, first of all: do backups
[05:11] <brian98> rustlerharv, http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html
[05:11] <rustlerharv> it hasnt acted any differnt from when in install dapper freash
[05:11] <brian98> have a good read
[05:11] <UKMatt> arafangion, no no i'm not, you said there was another way?
[05:12] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you already login as root (you know, when the login-screen comes)?
[05:12] <mneptok> taran: the tricky bit is that Ubuntu needs blank, unpartitioned space. wherever it's going to go, that space needs to be free space on the physical drive. not empty space in a partition you already use from Windows.
[05:12] <rustlerharv> no
[05:12] <rustlerharv> you cant
[05:12] <oxygene_> ah, okay
[05:12] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I don't bother with encryption, but I believe that gpg is the traditional way to do it these days.
[05:12] <oxygene_> good. indeed you can, but not without changing ubuntus standard behaviour ;)
[05:12] <SonicvanaJr> Is there a way to stop x, I know ctrl-alt-backspace, but it restarts soon after. Can I just stop it ?
[05:12] <MrWok> mneptok: None of that works.
[05:12] <rustlerharv> i know that
[05:12] <brian98> rustlerharv, then either reinstall if you have just installed or use http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html to make the files belong to your own user/group
[05:13] <oxygene_> SonicChao, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:13] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Alternatively, you could get yourself a random pad, and XOR every bit.
[05:13] <lunaphyte> hi
[05:13] <taran> Well, can I use my other physical drive?
[05:13] <UKMatt> arafangion, well how do i do any of those
[05:13] <kbee> SonicvanaJr:  init 3
[05:13] <mneptok> MrWok: what about "nslookup cnn.com <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[05:13] <aGee> is it possible to game on wine, not no hardcore games, something like starcraft, etc
[05:13] <UKMatt> arafangion, i'm just looking for some type of decent encryption to do
[05:13] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Then lock that pad in a safe, never to be reused again.   (This form of encryption is proveably unbreakble)
[05:13] <SonicvanaJr> kbee, elaborate ?
[05:13] <taran> I can move stuff from that to the M drive partition
[05:13] <oxygene_> UKMatt, don't take the random pad seriously ;)
[05:13] <torchie> yay, I got ubuntu running!
[05:13] <rustlerharv> is there an easy fay to change every file to my user group
[05:13] <rustlerharv> way*
[05:13] <torchie> now I may have another working computer
[05:13] <torchie> I wonder what I should do with it
[05:14] <kbee> at a console window  type   init  3  and you should  exit all X windows
[05:14] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, chown your_username: files
[05:14] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I don't really know, I believe encryption is largely a waste of time - if it's sensitive information, I just don't post it on the net!
[05:14] <oxygene_> with the colon
[05:14] <mneptok> rustlerharv: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername
[05:14] <oxygene_> this changes both user and group
[05:14] <kbee> in a console window  type  init  3   the X server will exit
[05:14] <SonicChao> None of these work.
[05:14] <SonicChao> That site is down.
[05:14] <frogzoo> kbee: that's redhat - in debian, all runlevels are equal
[05:14] <UKMatt> arafangion, i need to send it to a friend...
[05:14] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Heck, even Mac OS X's full-system encryption is easily bypassed.
[05:15] <SonicChao> How do you emulate GB games in Ubuntu?
[05:15] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Does your friend use Linux?
[05:15] <kbee> well suse also has  init 3 and 5
[05:15] <UKMatt> arafangion, windows
[05:15] <frogzoo> SonicvanaJr: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:15] <MrWok> mneptok: that spits out a few IPs
[05:15] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...does anyone know how to create the default mailboxes stored in /var/spool/mail/username? For some reason they do not seem to exist
[05:15] <kbee> and I seem to remmeber doing init 3 and 5  in  kubuntu 6.06
[05:15] <SonicvanaJr> frogzoo, got it thanks
[05:15] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Gee, that sucks.  Best bet is to send him a CD.
[05:16] <frogzoo> Gevaudan82: the mb is auto created on rxing mail afaik
[05:16] <shriphani> how do i check which device drivers are loaded ?
[05:16] <torchie> I'll take votes!
[05:16] <rustlerharv> so that changed everthing im my home folder to my ownership
[05:16] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Traditionally, on linux/unix, people use ssh and scp for encrypted communications and encrypted file transfer.
[05:16] <torchie> *ahem*
[05:16] <frogzoo> shriphani: lsmod
[05:16] <Gevaudan82> frogzoo:  what do you mean by rxing mail afaik?
[05:16] <torchie> dear #ubuntu,
[05:16] <UKMatt> arafangion, alright well is there ANY kind of encryption i can do to send him a file thats easy on his end, it's not like top level pentagon stuff
[05:16] <shriphani> frogzoo, thx
[05:16] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, yes
[05:16] <torchie> what to do with this new working computer?
[05:16] <frogzoo> Gevaudan82: receiving
[05:16] <CookieReaver> Okay._I_have_something_of_a_dire_problem.
[05:16] <rustlerharv> but evertything istalled in the file system
[05:17] <mneptok> UKMatt: if it's not good encryption, why bother with the password at all?
[05:17] <shriphani> ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[05:17] <shriphani> [17212499.000000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[05:17] <Gevaudan82> frogzoo:  hmm...been sending test mails to username@localhost and nothing seems to show up
[05:17] <Arafangion> mneptok++
[05:17] <frogzoo> torchie: install 6.06 Dapper & away you go
[05:17] <shriphani> thats seems very disorienting
[05:17] <torchie> I'm doing that right now frogzoo
[05:17] <brian98> I restarted dam x trying something out there for someone and it works!
[05:17] <torchie> ...crap!
[05:17] <shriphani> frogzoo, thats what dmesg says
[05:17] <brian98> who was asking about killing
[05:17] <brian98> x
[05:17] <torchie> the installer crashes whenever I open it
[05:17] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, you need superuser priviledges in order to install software and it should stay like that. but you could change the sudo behaviour so that it does not prompt you for your password if that annoys you
[05:17] <mneptok> UKMatt: GPG works on Windows, OSX, and every *nix variant you can think of. that's how you protect files.
[05:17] <UKMatt> ok i cant even read your name
[05:18] <Arafangion> mneptok: Cool.
[05:18] <UKMatt> alright thats a mn
[05:18] <brian98> anyway ctrl - alt - f1
[05:18] <torchie> AttributeError: NoneType object has no attribute 'replace'
[05:18] <brian98> sudo killall x-session-manager
[05:18] <rustlerharv> i really want to not have to use sudo to run programs once installed
[05:18] <kurt{canonical}> UKMatt: :P
[05:18] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I've never done encryption on windows, windows doesn't contain any tools whatsoever do do even the most basic task :(
[05:18] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, you don't have to
[05:18] <torchie> what is a brother to do!?
[05:18] <brian98> Arafangion, vista kinda does
[05:18] <oxygene_> you only need sudo for the installation itself
[05:18] <oxygene_> NEVER for using the software
[05:19] <oxygene_> unlinke it's administration stuff
[05:19] <Arafangion> brian98: I certainly hope so, after 30 years of progress.
[05:19] <brian98> lol
[05:19] <brian98> feck that makes me fell old!
[05:19] <frogzoo> torchie: you can try maybe disabling acpi
[05:19] <frogzoo> !fixinstall > torchie
[05:19] <brian98> Arafangion, it's an awful distro of windows
[05:19] <brian98> sorry offtopic
[05:19] <torchie> cool, cool
[05:19] <Arafangion> brian98: And even then, They _still_ don't include a compiler by default.
[05:19] <rustlerharv> ok then explain how i cant get gaim to connect to the internt without sudo or the who problem with the phpmyadmin was cuz i wasnt in a root firefox
[05:20] <UKMatt> alright this conversation went from a simple question to robble robble robble real quick, and it's going nowhere, so if someone wants to tell me how to do an encryption, regardless of whether or not MacGuyver could crack it, let me know, if not, forget it
[05:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, use sudo only for apt-get install'ing things and for modifying configuration files or the like
[05:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted > all
[05:20] <brian98> rustlerharv, resinstall if I was you
[05:20] <Arafangion> brian98: Arguments of user friendliness aside, even mac os x provides a compiler and IDE by default.
[05:20] <brian98> sorry easy way out
[05:20] <kurt{canonical}> UKMatt: i already did. GPG.
[05:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> MacGuyver. Haha
[05:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, maybe you just had to clear your browser cache
[05:20] <UKMatt> kurt{canonical}, but i don't know how to do that...
[05:20] <frogzoo> UKMatt: pgp
[05:20] <oxygene_> you don't need root priviledges for firefox. never
[05:20] <brian98> Arafangion, I don't disagree, I can pick this one up with you in offtopic whenever you like! I got lot's too say about it :)
[05:20] <oxygene_> it's even a security risk
[05:21] <CookieReaver> I_seem_to_have_disabled_my_space_key._How,_exactly_would_I_go_about_fixing_this_little_problem?
[05:21] <aSt3raL_> im trying to connect to mysql and i get this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:21] <mneptok> UKMatt: http://www.gnupg.org/
[05:21] <oxygene_> press shift or crtl while reloading pages in firefox
[05:21] <Arafangion> UKMatt: The difference is that Linux users tend to be very pedantic, unless you just want rot13 encryption.
[05:21] <oxygene_> and do not start any application as root from now on
[05:21] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Or even double-rot13 encryption.
[05:21] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: I guess you maybe mapped the space key to a function - sys -> prefs -> kb hotkeys
[05:21] <rustlerharv> ok so you right there how about gaim
[05:21] <oxygene_> gaim should connect without root priviledges too
[05:21] <CookieReaver> Yes.
[05:21] <mneptok> UKMatt: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.5.exe
[05:22] <rustlerharv> gaim works but wont connect to the internet
[05:22] <mneptok> UKMatt: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~twoaday/winpt.html
[05:22] <MrWok> mneptok: That gave a bunch of IPs
[05:22] <mneptok> UKMatt: you;ll also want Seahorse in Ubuntu. via Synaptic.
[05:22] <UKMatt> I can't open a .exe, i'm in UB
[05:22] <mneptok> MrWok: you have DNS issues. look in /etc/resolv/conf and see what's there.
[05:22] <Arafangion> UKMatt: That was for your friend.
[05:22] <Rasta> neat, just installed photoshop with wine, now how i know where it was installed so i can run it and make a launcher?
[05:22] <aSt3raL_> mapped the space key?
[05:23] <torchie> hmm
[05:23] <UKMatt> arafangion, oh
[05:23] <torchie> this old computer seems to take longer to boot up since I put this new hard drive in
[05:23] <brian98> brb
[05:23] <torchie> what exactly is acpi?
[05:23] <oxygene_> sorry, i got disconnected
[05:23] <aSt3raL_> im trying to connect to mysql and i get this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:24] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, try running gaim in a console (not as root! check with "whoami" first)
[05:24] <oxygene_> and look for error messages
[05:24] <frogzoo> torchie: power mgt
[05:24] <mneptok> UKMatt: you;ll also want Seahorse in Ubuntu. via Synaptic. (x2)  your friend wants the Windows GPG stuff. then the stuff you send back and forth (files, e-mail, etc) will be not only password protected, but all but indecipherable except by government agencies with vast computing resources they do not want to dedicate to you .zip files.
[05:24] <Arafangion> aSt3raL_: Do you have access to that file, and is mysql running?
[05:24] <THX-1138> Rasta - does ctrl+h  (unhding directoris in your /home.) hlep?
[05:24] <torchie> wouldn't disabling power management be a bad thing?
[05:24] <aSt3raL_> how do i start/stop mysql?
[05:24] <Arafangion> torchie: Depends.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> torchie,  needed for some  machines at times. sadly
[05:24] <frogzoo> torchie: not if it's making the install fail
[05:25] <torchie> ah
[05:25] <torchie> ok
[05:25] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[05:25] <oxygene_> aSt3raL_, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[05:25] <oxygene_> year, or stop, or restart
[05:25] <oxygene_> *yeah
[05:25] <ootput> hi guys, while trying to setup my printer via the cups interface (localhost), it requests a user/password. Would the user be 'root', and if so, how do i enter a password for root?
[05:25] <aSt3raL_> theres no mysql in init.d
[05:26] <oxygene_> well, install mysql-server then
[05:26] <keegan> !restricted
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: so you don't have mysql installed
[05:26] <Arafangion> ootput: I actually consider that a bug, imho, the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file (or whatever) should be modified to allow any user belonging to the admin group.
[05:26] <brian98> aSt3raL_, mysqladmin shutdown -p, --password=whatever
[05:26] <oxygene_> with sudo you can
[05:26] <brian98> whatever=your password obviously
[05:27] <oxygene_> that's a weak password ;)
[05:27] <brian98> whatever
[05:27] <brian98> no
[05:27] <brian98> who would guess that :)
[05:27] <keegan> I recently installed the Edgy Eft BETA and everytime I click on the upgrade icon it says I need to do a distupgrade.  Anyone know why it does this?
[05:27] <brian98> what password would you like mr managing director
[05:27] <brian98> erm
[05:27] <brian98> whatever
[05:27] <brian98> lol
[05:27] <oxygene_> keegan, which packages are kept back?
[05:28] <oxygene_> brian98, hehe
[05:28] <brian98> keegan, #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <torchie> o.O!?
[05:28] <torchie> checksums failed, press any key to restart your system
[05:28] <OSUKid7> hey, I need to forward the NIS/yp client over ssh to another server. I think I need to forward ports 111 and 773. I tried a standard ssh -L forward, but it looks like the local NIS agent already listens on port 111. anyone know how to do this?
[05:28] <yanger> i recently changed from another distro to ubuntu... when i play videos via Firefox with mozilla-mplayer, the video loads, and dies instantly... any fixes?
[05:28] <keegan> oxygene_: I do the Dist Upgrade but it says cannot find ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <keegan> can't install not find
[05:29] <frogzoo> OSUKid7: no, but ethereal will help
[05:29] <oxygene_> join the channel #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <oxygene_> (yes, its a channel name)
[05:29] <yanger> oh, i can rightclick and save the video, and play it afterwards in g/mplayer but never in a browser..
[05:29] <deny_> ooo i thought it was an update
[05:29] <OSUKid7> frogzoo: how? I already (think) I know what ports it's on... ethereal can't redirect ports on the fly, can it?
[05:29] <torchie> hmm
[05:29] <factotum> anyone have any problems with rhythmbox closing its self when you try to import a dir or load mp3 files to the library?
[05:29] <torchie> what goes on in ubuntu+1?
[05:30] <frogzoo> OSUKid7: ethereal will show you exactly what's going on
[05:30] <factotum> I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it and it still does it
[05:30] <brian98> torchie, it's for beta releases
[05:30] <unfknblvbl> ppl who have an IQ that is +1 higher than ours
[05:30] <brian98> like edgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggy
[05:30] <torchie> edgggggggggggggggggggggggy :O
[05:30] <brian98> which isn't as edgy as it sounds
[05:30] <brian98> :)
[05:30] <OSUKid7> frogzoo: right, but I already have a good idea... hence why I came here. basically if I can forward over ssh, it should work... but I can't forward a port if it's already in use.
[05:30] <brian98> though I do think it's a bad name
[05:31] <brian98> imagine microsoft edgy
[05:31] <torchie> I dunno
[05:31] <torchie> edgy eft sounds cooler than dapper drake
[05:31] <brian98> would get some abuse
[05:31] <torchie> I mean
[05:31] <Arafangion> brian98: People for some wierd reason confuse it with "Etch".
[05:31] <mneptok> wait until you hear the name of edgy+1 :/
[05:31] <torchie> we have D< but they
[05:31] <torchie> they have E!
[05:31] <brian98> ya
[05:31] <Arafangion> brian98: ie, I say I've been running Etch, and they keep thinking I'm saying Edgy.
[05:31] <oxygene_> I expect the next-next ubuntu to be furry, btw
[05:31] <torchie> furry frog?
[05:32] <torchie> fondly fang?
[05:32] <mneptok> you wish
[05:32] <brian98> i just thought edgy would put the general public of installing onto their machines
[05:32] <oxygene_> furry frog (=fellfrosch) (german rammstein insider)
[05:32] <Arafangion> brian98: Why would it?
[05:32] <factotum> im waiting for something like Ubunut 11.0.2 Slightly Moist Marmaset
[05:32] <torchie> Funky Flag!
[05:32] <factotum> Or Irate Tool Booth Guy
[05:32] <brian98> would your average person format their computer to install something called edgy
[05:32] <THX-1138> lol
[05:32] <torchie> Zonky Zoite
 would your average person format their computer to install something called edgy  <-- I would
[05:32] <Arafangion> brian98: Would the average person format their computer?
[05:32] <factotum> Tollbooth
[05:33] <Rasta> how i can change to a directory with a name like "Program Files" (with space) in the terminal?
[05:33] <brian98> ok ok
[05:33] <oxygene_> brian98, well, dapper is the LTS. edgy is for the freaks ;)
[05:33] <mneptok> this was my idea for edgy+1, but sabdfl denied me :/ - http://mneptok.com/pony-cd-cover.jpg
[05:33] <bruenig> I expect the next ubuntu to be sneaky snake
[05:33] <THX-1138> Program\ Files
[05:33] <Madpilot> Rasta, use the tab key - try Program<tab> to auto-complete
[05:33] <brian98> I thkn they should call it osxx
[05:33] <Rasta> THX
[05:33] <brian98> or osex
[05:33] <oxygene_> Rasta you can also write "Program Files"
[05:33] <brian98> hehe
[05:33] <factotum> meh, im content with a stable desktop. I leave the sandboxing to my FreeBSD P2 box
[05:33] <torchie> Snarky Snook
[05:33] <oxygene_> or Pro and press <Tab> and bash will complete it for you
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: "sex" is actually number six in french.
[05:34] <brian98> ok ok !offtopic!!!!
[05:34] <mneptok> of course, if edgy+1 was "the perfect pony" as i suggested, i would have to be the magical fairy princess.
[05:34] <jvai> god, i locked myself out of a folder, i had to load knoppix to change the permissions on it, now all's back to norm... linux is wonderful
[05:34] <keegan> No one is helping me in ubuntu+1 anyone know any other channels?
[05:34] <bruenig> nobody likes sneaky snake
[05:34] <bruenig> ubuntu+2
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: But I believe they pronounce their letters very differently, so the coincidence doesn't carry over to the spoken language.
[05:34] <unfknblvbl> ubuntu+2
[05:34] <Rasta> yeah that \ and tab worked
[05:34] <bruenig> dupe
[05:34] <brian98> well over the past two days I had a spare lappy to play with and installed edgy
[05:34] <torchie> Sexy Slope?
[05:34] <brian98> very smooth ride
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: Who the hell has "a spare laptop"?
[05:34] <factotum> Yes please!
[05:34] <brian98> Me
[05:34] <brian98> :)
[05:34] <torchie> I have 19 spare laptops
[05:35] <mneptok> Arafangion: the same people with "spare change"
[05:35] <Arafangion> brian98: You're *sick*
[05:35] <torchie> no wait, I don't have that kind of money
[05:35] <bruenig> rich people
[05:35] <SonicChao> Turns out I have to use Wine. That's silly, but oh well.
[05:35] <brian98> Arafangion, I work in netdev for an isp in ireland
[05:35] <factotum> Ive never owned a laptop :<
[05:35] <torchie> I have one laptop
[05:35] <shriphani_> i have a lappy with 3 missing keys
[05:35] <jvai> <-- thinkpad 600x, w/ a bad monitor as a spare
[05:35] <jo3y> would wine work with photoshop?
[05:35] <Arafangion> brian98: Actually, you're fine.  torchie's sick.
[05:35] <torchie> but it's the worst laptop ever created
[05:35] <shriphani_> thats all :)
[05:35] <torchie> I mean
[05:35] <factotum> Someday....when the kids are all grown up maybe Ill afford a lappy
[05:35] <torchie> it sounds like a leaf blower
[05:35] <Arafangion> factotum: Laptops are almost getting cheaper than PC's.
[05:35] <torchie> it hard lock ups every one to two days
[05:36] <pyrad> is 6.10 stable enough to upgrade to, or should i wait untill GA is released? i'm running 6.06 currently
[05:36] <factotum> even an old p2 or p3
[05:36] <Arafangion> factotum: Dell sells laptops for less than $1000 AUD.
[05:36] <oxygene_> pyrad: its quite stable for me
[05:36] <THX-1138> laptop? - notebook computer. - 2 cores are just too hot.
[05:36] <oxygene_> but it could be instable for you, still
[05:36] <brian98>  pyrad same here, but wait!
[05:36] <torchie> my next laptop will be a macbook
[05:36] <torchie> WILL WILL WILL
[05:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> Can I play m4a songs on xmms? Or do I have to convert them to mp3?
[05:36] <factotum> Kinda hard when the most i cold probably ever come up with is maybe $400 or $500
[05:36] <eyS_c0ld> anyone have any experience with tv tuners?
[05:36] <shriphani_> THX-1138, how tough is it to handle linux on ppc
[05:36] <brian98> I know I'm offtopic again but I notice edgy is using the same version of gnome as breezy
[05:36] <factotum> someday...
[05:36] <brian98> why so I wonder?
[05:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> !mp3
[05:36] <torchie> ARGH
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:36] <Arafangion> torchie: Just be aware that any repair out-of-warrantee is unbelievably expensive.
[05:37] <pyrad> oxygene_: brian98: ah ok cool
[05:37] <oxygene_> pyrad, do not update unless you've backuped your data and have time for rescue action if needed
[05:37] <torchie> dammit.
[05:37] <THX-1138> shriphani - erm - i wouldn't - shh. - it is doable but it is a fight
[05:37] <brian98> or a spare laptop ;)
[05:37] <brian98> lol
[05:37] <skip> has anyone got an Intel 3945 device to work out of the box or is there some tweaking required?
[05:37] <Arafangion> torchie: Also, if you go with some non-apple warrantee, be prepared for some major politics.
[05:37] <vanberge> anybody usin 6.10 beta?  Im having trouble using ndiswrapper...
[05:37] <pyrad> oxygene_: mm k that does'nt sound very optimistic :)
[05:37] <shriphani_> so that leaves me to buy the intel imacs
[05:37] <torchie> So you know, ubuntu's all "ready to install, dawg?" and I'm all "*clicks english*" and ubuntu's like "ATTRIBUTEERROR: NONETYPE OBJECT HAS NO ATTRIBUTE 'REPLACE'"
[05:37] <shriphani_> imac ^
[05:37] <torchie> heh, story of my life
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'll stick to the ubuntu I have now.
[05:38] <vanberge> i run ndiswrapper, and then get the message "no versions of ndiswrapper found"... any ideas?
[05:38] <brian98> shriphani_, beats the purpoise
[05:38] <oxygene_> pyrad, it's the usual disclaimer
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> !language
[05:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Haha
[05:38] <mneptok> skip: my 3945 works fine with no extra tweaking
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: when is the GA released ?
[05:38] <THX-1138> !mac
[05:38] <brian98> vanberge, what have you done so far?
[05:38] <InfoSpy> anybody know why none of the program work  (they used) unless using root.
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <rredd4> vanberge  great, hopefully that will be fixed before final..  I use ndis..
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Torchie that was pretty classic.
[05:38] <torchie> !sound
[05:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:38] <THX-1138> !macintosh
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: how long do i have to wait for next stable one
[05:38] <vanberge> brian98: apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <CookieReaver> Okay._This_is_really_getting_on_my_nerves._How_do_I_get_my_space_key_back?
[05:38] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you r
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: i understand :)
[05:38] <jvai> lol
[05:38] <shriphani_> !apple
[05:38] <skip> mneptok: what version of Ubuntu?
[05:38] <THX-1138> !ubotu is amnesiac
[05:38] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you run them as root?
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <brian98> have you tried sudo ndiswrapper
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> You lost your space bar?
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <brian98> to see if it's even there
[05:39] <brian98> ?
[05:39] <jvai> smh
[05:39] <torchie> aaargh
[05:39] <vanberge> brian98: yeah...
[05:39] <brian98> ok
[05:39] <InfoSpy> they used to run just fine
[05:39] <torchie> I just wanted to install ubuntu!
[05:39] <mneptok> skip: dapper
[05:39] <brian98> did it install ok
[05:39] <jvai> !OS X
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OS X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> NEW DISC DAWG
[05:39] <torchie> what did I ever do to ubuntu for it to hate me
[05:39] <brian98> jvai: what do you want to know?
[05:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> torchie, did you pay your alimony?
[05:39] <oxygene_> pyrad, it's gonna be 6.10, so it should be out at the end of october
[05:39] <skip> mneptok: so what is the trick during installation?
[05:39] <mneptok> torchie: used words like "dawg" in public.
[05:39] <InfoSpy> them one day i booted and now when i open firefox, ooimpress, they don't run, but if i su and then run it does
[05:39] <torchie> No, I didn't! I swear!
[05:39] <brian98> 26th I think
[05:39] <vanberge> brian98: yes... just says "Error: No versions of ndiswrapper found"
[05:39] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: WHY DID YOU RUN THEM AS ROOT?
[05:39] <brian98> hrm
[05:39] <brian98> ok
 torchie: used words like "dawg" in public.  <-- ubuntu uses words like 'dawg' when you install it, and people love it
[05:40] <Arafangion> brian98: This seems to be a recurring theme. :(
[05:40] <mneptok> skip: i know of no trick
[05:40] <THX-1138> shriphani_: erm - sigh, is the image a long fight formiing?
[05:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> I wish it would use "Dawg"
[05:40] <CookieReaver> Sktfeelsdapper:_no,_the_ability_to_make_the_space_character_when_I_press_the_space,
[05:40] <brian98> can you just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper and tell me what it says in #xxxr
[05:40] <jvai> brian: i found out ubutu is an x86 only bot
[05:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> Keyboard not installed right maybe?
[05:40] <brian98> jvail *************SHOCK***********
[05:40] <InfoSpy> cuz if i run it from a regular user i just see an icon spinning for ever and then it doesnt open.
[05:40] <skip> mneptok: my card wasn't even detected
[05:40] <jvai> lol
[05:40] <phargle> how dare it not
[05:41] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you run it as root the *first* time?
[05:41] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, so how did you break your system?
[05:41] <shriphani_> hmm THX-1138 ?
[05:41] <InfoSpy> i am not sure, cuz i always use sudo for everything.
[05:41] <mneptok> skip: what does ifconfig tell you?
[05:41] <vanberge> brian98: "couldnt find package ndiswrapper"
[05:41] <Arafangion> Madpilot: My guess, he ran some proggie as root, for some bizarre reason, and now some ~/.foo is owned by root.
[05:41] <arnducky> !download
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:41] <CookieReaver> Well,_no,_it_WAS_fine._I'm_just_a_noob_and_mapped_something_else_there._Now_I_don't_know_how_to_remap_it.
[05:41] <vanberge> brian98: maybe i have ndiswrapper utils, but not the actual ndiswrapper... hmm.
[05:41] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why do you use sudo for everything?
[05:41] <shriphani_> which image THX-1138
[05:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Um.
[05:41] <skip> mneptok: eth0 and lo only
[05:41] <Madpilot> Arafangion, quite likely
[05:41] <brian98> ahh
[05:41] <brian98> sorry
[05:42] <brian98> can you just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils and tell me what it says in #xxxr
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there something in system > Administration or something?
[05:42] <InfoSpy> Aran, cuz i am a newbie heehe, and that what i read to do online.
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I convert m4a into mp3's to burn?
[05:42] <mneptok> skip: my 3945 in my Thinkpad works without issue. maybe there's something in the BIOS, or something your manufacturer could tell you.
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Or just play, I don't know if xmms can play those.
[05:42] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Try: "sudo chown InfoSpy ~/ -R"
[05:42] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, get the plugins for playing m4a
[05:42] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, only ever run stuff with sudo when you actually *need* to - apps like Firefox & OOo should never need to be run w/ sudo...
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know if I do have them or not.
[05:42] <jvai> i'll be  @ a lost again when i upgrade, ouch, i'm on ubuntu 5.04 still, but i'm goin straight to dapper next year
[05:43] <bruenig> wouldn't it be chown -R?
[05:43] <THX-1138> shriphani_: I si possible. many have done it. - It just isn't as easy as popping in a disk to get a comepletely working system.
[05:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> I quite possibly could, but then again.
[05:43] <vanberge> brian98: package ndiswrapper-utils is already at its newest version.
[05:43] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, you dun get the on a default install
[05:43] <InfoSpy> thanks Mad, let me try what arafan says
[05:43] <shriphani_> THX-1138, i see
[05:43] <CookieReaver> Nothing_that_I_know_of_in_Administration...
[05:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh no, I've downloaded alot media plugins.
[05:43] <brian98> vanberge, locate ndiswrapper
[05:43] <brian98> vanberge, sudo locate ndiswrapper
[05:43] <pyrad> oxygene_: ok thanks
[05:43] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, go the ubuntu ressric formats page
[05:43] <shriphani_> !restricted > Sktfeelsdapper
[05:43] <skip> mneptok: ok, thanks. I've heard good stories about Thinkpads. Unfortunately I'm running a Toshiba with a non-Toshiba BIOS
[05:43] <InfoSpy> thankssssssssssssssssss
[05:44] <oxygene_> InfoSpy, stop using sudo for everything
[05:44] <brian98> bruenig, why would they do that?
[05:44] <InfoSpy>  i will stop, i am just learning
[05:44] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Do you understand why it did that?
[05:44] <bruenig> I don't know but they do, *cough* CookieReaver
[05:44] <CookieReaver> I_don't_HAVE_ANY_SPACES._Other_wise_I'd_be_using_them.
[05:44] <oxygene_> use sudo ONLY to apt-get install things for example
[05:44] <oxygene_> or to edit configuration files in /etc
[05:44] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: sudo means "Run the following program as the super user".
[05:44] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, have a look through the first few sections of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for use of sudo
[05:44] <brian98> or to locate files
[05:44] <vanberge> brian98: i don't see any binaries... thats odd.  some stuff under kernel headers, then some stuff under modules
[05:45] <oxygene_> to locate files?
[05:45] <bruenig> I thought sudo meant super user do
[05:45] <yanger> ah, my video issues fixed ;) forgot to change my audio device ;\ darned multiconfigs of mplayer
[05:45] <Madpilot> bruenig, Arafangion was paraphrasing ;)
[05:45] <Rasta> ok, i have installed wine trough synaptic and the i installed photoshop with wine all without problems, the thing its that when i try to run photoshop in the terminal (wine Photoshop.exe) i get this error and photoshop doesnt starts: fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW stub! X Error of failed request:  BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device
[05:45] <kitche> bruenig: that;s what sudo stands for
[05:45] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: In your case, the "following program" needed to make or edit some configuration files in $HOME, hence, those configuration files were only accessible with super-user permissions.
[05:45] <brian98> ok vanberge sudo apt-get remove ndisiswrapper-utils
[05:45] <Rasta> there is something i have to configure or take care of?
[05:45] <torchie> sigh
[05:45] <bruenig> ah, a paraphrase which has 267% more words...
[05:45] <torchie> no ubuntu for me
[05:46] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Which means that you, as a mere mortal, can't access them.
[05:46] <brian98> please paste the output into chanel #xxxr
[05:46] <shriphani_> Rasta, are you in the correct directory ?
[05:46] <InfoSpy> thanks
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: The 'su' stands for "switch user".
[05:46] <Tokenbad> how can I make sure have the source for the current kernal installed?
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: By default, to root.
[05:46] <bruenig> su does, but is it the same su as in sudo
[05:46] <kitche> Arafangion: su means super user
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: I believe so, because I believe you can still specify the user in sudo.
[05:46] <Arafangion> killefiz: You sure?
[05:47] <bruenig> perhaps, doesn't matter
[05:47] <THX-1138> Arafangion: Was #wine on this server any help? vitamin if he isn't there now is worth waiting for as he is very knowledeable.
[05:47] <rredd4> kitche    what is the   -   for when i use su
[05:47] <Rasta> shriphani_,   .wine/drive_c/program files...
[05:47] <Arafangion> THX-1138: #winehq
[05:47] <THX-1138> Ah - Your right.
[05:48] <kitche> rredd4: it's a login shell it makes the system think the user logged on instead of just switching users
[05:48] <shriphani_> thats fine Rasta
[05:48] <Rasta> not that fine, photoshop doesnt runs :(
[05:48] <shriphani_> umm
[05:49] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to install the kernel source for the current kernel for ubuntu?
[05:49] <A-L-P-H-A> how does one add apps to the applications start bar thing?  I've used synaptics to install an app, but it's not in the start bar.
[05:49] <shriphani_> A-L-P-H-A, it should be there
[05:50] <brian98> A-L-P-H-A, applications - accessories - alacarte etccccc
[05:50] <A-L-P-H-A> brian98, checking... thanks.
[05:50] <THX-1138> A-L-P-H-A: alacarte menu editor? on the menu? or create a launcher by right clicking on the desk and dragging it to the top bar?
[05:50] <Tokenbad> anyone please?
[05:50] <A-L-P-H-A> shriphani_: um, no... "eagle layout" software isn't... odd.
[05:51] <mneptok> Tokenbad: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> no but seriously, is there a way to make m4a's into mp3's?
[05:51] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, maybe
[05:51] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <Tokenbad> mneptok, that will install for the current kernel?
[05:51] <oxygene_> too slow
[05:51] <rredd4> using Streamtuner with xmms, when I listen to stations Shoutcast stations, they sound distorted.  They never used to, anyone know why?  When I listen to Xiph, the sound is ok.
[05:52] <mneptok> Tokenbad: yes
[05:52] <mneptok> Tokenbad: it will also install source for future kernel updates
[05:52] <mneptok> (right now the current is 2.6.15)
[05:52] <oxygene_> for dapper
[05:52] <THX-1138> Sktfeelsdapper: mencoder - *might* be it. else convert to wave first.
[05:52] <Tokenbad> mneptok, thanks
[05:53] <slid3r> I need translation
[05:53] <slid3r> sorry fot the newbness of this
[05:53] <slid3r> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service
[05:54] <ciphex> when i try to remove the ALSA base and utils packages using Synaptic it tells me that gdm and ubuntu-base, minimal, desktop must be removed along with it... why?
[05:54] <slid3r> where is says system_username and system_username = "network username"
[05:54] <slid3r> what do they mean .. those literal words (if so I would have to add a user named that)
[05:54] <slid3r> or
[05:55] <Arafangion> kitche: Actually, I think su actually stands for "Set UID".
[05:55] <oxygene_> Rasta, which version of photoshop do you want to run?
[05:55] <slid3r> like slid3r = "slid3r"
[05:55] <Rasta> oxygene_, 7.0
[05:55] <oxygene_> system_username="slid3r"
[05:55] <kitche> Arafangion: well it means substitute user
[05:55] <oxygene_> rasta, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[05:55] <Rasta> im getting some help on the #winehq channel
[05:56] <Arafangion> kitche: Where does it say that?
[05:56] <oxygene_> it's rated "platinum" for dapper =)
[05:56] <Rasta> ill be back in a minute and tell you if it worked
[05:56] <kitche> Arafangion in su man pages
[05:56] <Arafangion> kitche: Not on ubuntu.
[05:56] <Rasta> oxygene_, i know, thats good, as i have been told it something on x.conf
[05:57] <kitche> Arafangion: it should it says right under Name
[05:57] <slid3r> oxygene_: soo, then after that I would do sudo smbpasswd -a slid3r?
[05:57] <slid3r> or
[05:57] <slid3r> lol I feel dumb
[05:57] <Arafangion> kitche: It doesn't.  But the OpenBSD system I have does say "Substitute User Identity".
[05:57] <Arafangion> kitche: So I think you are correct. :) Still, wierd that hte Ubuntu man pages doesn't say it.
[05:57] <oxygene_> slid3r: i don't know samba
[05:57] <oxygene_> i have just guessed out of context
[05:58] <slid3r> its a pin
[05:58] <rredd4> kitche  su - change user ID or become super-user    first line in man page
[05:58] <slid3r> pain
[05:58] <FlyingSquirrel32> What is the user name you're log on to whn you use the LiveCD? O how can I tell the username of who's logged on?
[05:58] <oxygene_> FlyingSquirrel32, start a console and type "whoami"
[05:58] <kitche> Arafangion: but it can also mean super user depending on what context you use it in
[05:58] <FlyingSquirrel32> oxygene_: thanks
[05:58] <Arafangion> kitche: It is merely the default.
[05:58] <eetfunk> anyone here is experienced with apache2, mod_fastcgi and php4?  I can't get it to work (I can't use mod_php because it conflicts with mod_python)
[05:59] <THX-1138> FlyingSquirrel32:  userers, or sudo passwd will change a passwd. - default ubuntu live cd password. (shrug) someone else knows.
[05:59] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Why not just setup mod_php, anyway? (Use another apache server for mod_python)
[05:59] <THX-1138> users
[06:00] <ciphex> anyone know why Synaptic won't let me remove ALSA without removing gdm and Ubuntu packages also?
[06:00] <eetfunk> Arafangion: nah, fastcgi makes more sense for me.  2 apache servers would be overkill.
[06:00] <kitche> think the default password for livecd is random generated but I m not sure
[06:00] <Arafangion> eetfunk: How so?
[06:00] <Arafangion> eetfunk: You're probably effectively running 200
[06:01] <Arafangion> eetfunk: imho, mod_python is overkill, but don't let anyone know I said that ;)
[06:01] <mtholdenss> is there an edgy eft support channel?
[06:01] <rredd4> ubuntu+1
[06:01] <eetfunk> Arafangion: it's the best way to run python under apache afaik
[06:02] <oxygene_> well, gdm seems to depend on alsa-utls
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Depends.
[06:02] <oxygene_> *utils
[06:02] <rredd4> myholdenss  #ununtu_1
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: mod_python is more for a python "application", that serves dynamic pages for a large variety of websites with the same script.
[06:02] <rredd4> +1
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Which is very, very different to the php or cgi mentality.
[06:03] <Arafangion> eetfunk: And as such, one can't really say that it's the "best" way to run python under apache ;)
[06:03] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i have a django app running under mod_python
[06:03] <Arafangion> eetfunk: How do you find django?
[06:04] <brian98> if anyone is having probs with ndiswrapper under edgy use ndiswrapper-1.8 instead of just ndiswrapper at the cmd line, I know this isn't the edgy support channel but it's been coming up a bit...
[06:04] <eetfunk> Arafangion: I like Rails better, but Python is faster and it seems more stable/reliable in a production environment
[06:04] <eetfunk> this app was Ruby On Rails before and I ported it to Django because of countless stability/performance issues
[06:04] <Arafangion> eetfunk: mod_perl is supposed to be faster by a huge factor.
[06:04] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Second only to mod_php
[06:05] <Tokenbad> I did apt-get install linux-source and it installed...but when I do make...it says need a different source
[06:05] <siriusnova> gah i have to reinstall dapper
[06:05] <siriusnova> i hosed my upgrade to edgy eft :X
[06:05] <brian98> siriusnova, :(
[06:05] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python is definetly more mature than ruby, in any regard. :)
[06:05] <Tokenbad> says I need source for Makefile:31: *** You'll need sources for your (at least 2.6.16) kernel.  Stop.
[06:06] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, what ist the output of uname -r ?
[06:06] <eetfunk> Arafangion: it is. and faster too
[06:06] <vanberge> brian98: tyvm again...
[06:06] <brian98> ?
[06:07] <brian98> what up?
[06:07] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, 2.6.15-27-386
[06:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> If I were to upgrade to some form of edgy would it destroy everything I've done right now?
[06:07] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python 2.5 is reportedly significantly faster too :)
[06:07] <MrWok1> how can I search for a file?
[06:07] <eetfunk> Arafangion: didnt install it yet
[06:07] <oxygene_> MrWok, locate file
[06:07] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Nor have I, they've broken some binary compatibility, so I'm waiting it out a bit.
[06:08] <eetfunk> dont even know if it's compatible with django
[06:08] <MrWok1> That just lists every file I have.
[06:08] <MrWok1> I want to search for a file.
[06:08] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I'm sure it is compatible with django, the question is, is it compatible with mod_python?
[06:08] <vanberge> brian98: my wlan card is workin perfectly...  :-)
[06:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> what's the difference between mod_python and just python?
[06:08] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, never seen this error message
[06:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> !python
[06:08] <brian98> vanberge, I'm very happy for you~! :)
[06:08] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[06:09] <oxygene_> what do you want to "make"?
[06:09] <indref> Yay! Newbie question time!
[06:09] <brian98> great to here
[06:09] <brian98> hear even
[06:09] <indref> How do I change the permissions of an entire dir?
[06:09] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: The difference is cgi vs preloading the vm and running it from the webserver directly.
[06:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh?
[06:09] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, your kernel is 2.6.15 and the software (whatever it is) seems to require at least 2.6.16
[06:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I guess I'd have to learn python first huh.
[06:09] <ronybeck> chmod -R 0777 /path/to/dir
[06:09] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: Thus avoiding the overheads of the exec() system call.
[06:09] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I am trying to install cdemu
[06:10] <indref> I moved about a million files from a few dvds to my home dir, but they are all read only.
[06:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> Everytime I do anything in python it gives me an error message.
[06:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> Even when I do instructions to the tee.
[06:10] <brian98> indref, http://www.linux-mag.com/tips/
[06:10] <indref> It's a begger changing the permissions per file.
[06:10] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you won't be able to install it with the current dapper kernel
[06:10] <brian98> indref, that shows you how to use chown
[06:10] <ronybeck> indref, what?
[06:10] <MrWok1> Well?
[06:11] <MrWok1> how can I actually search for a term?
[06:11] <indref> brian98, Thanks, I'll give it a look.
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm just learning bash myself, so I'd better just stick to one.
[06:11] <vanberge> users
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> !bash
[06:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:11] <mneptok> bbl
[06:11] <shriphani_> MrWok, in what ?
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I access this konsole?
[06:11] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The django db api is remarkably similar to python's PyObject (If that's what it's called)
[06:11] <rustlerhar1> !mythtv
[06:11] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:12] <brian98> MrWok, do you need to find a file?
[06:12] <MrWok1> brian98: Yeah
[06:12] <brian98> either locate filename
[06:12] <brian98> or find / -name filename
[06:12] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i don't know too much about python, i learned it recently when porting my app to django.
[06:12] <brian98> use sudo to search in dirs that do not belong to you
[06:13] <brian98> ie
[06:13] <oxygene_> MrWok, take "locate filename" literally. "locate" is the actual command
[06:13] <brian98> or sudo find / -name filename
[06:13] <MrWok1> thanks
[06:13] <MrWok1> I assume I can search for folders too with that
[06:13] <brian98> oxygene_,  sorry for my bad explanation
[06:13] <indref> Ok, well that didn't help :/
[06:13] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python is my favorite langauge :)
[06:13] <brian98> MrWok, yes
[06:13] <indref> My previous question stands.
[06:13] <oxygene_> "locate" is faster because it uses a database but recently added files will not be listed yet
[06:13] <eetfunk> Arafangion: not me, thats for sure.
[06:14] <indref> How do I change the permissions of an entire dir?
[06:14] <Arafangion> eetfunk: What's yours?
[06:14] <oxygene_> brian98, I bad-explained it the same way before ;)
[06:14] <brian98> MrWok, you can run sudo updatedb
[06:14] <brian98> then use locate
[06:14] <oxygene_> indref, recursivly?
[06:14] <MrWok1> Ah
[06:14] <MrWok1> Thanks guys :-)
[06:14] <eetfunk> i did a lot of .net/c# and I think it's a wonderful platform.  but for scripting, i find ruby to be much more elegant
[06:14] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I'm not sure if python's a good choice for a web scripting langauge for Apache, and it's positively awful for templating, imho - but in the context of programming, it's a rather nice language.
[06:14] <brian98> indref, can you remind me~?
[06:14] <indref> oxygene_, I want everything in /home/indref/ to be read/write for me
[06:15] <oxygene_> chmod and chown have both the option -R
[06:15] <Phr0stByte> Anyone have any problems with edgy adter upgrading from breezy?
[06:15] <Arafangion> eetfunk: For .NET, I'm wanting to try Boo
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to learn a language just so I can make something.
[06:15] <Arafangion> eetfunk: It's a .NET language heavily inspired by Python.
[06:15] <eetfunk> boo?
[06:15] <Phr0stByte> (just checking befor I try)
[06:15] <indref> brian98,  I want everything in /home/indref/ to be read/write for me
[06:15] <oxygene_> so you can specify a folder and change permissions recursively
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> Sktfeelsdapper: learn maths
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> Like so I can make it 300 times easier to download stupid Nicotine.
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> Sktfeelsdapper, ruby ... then ruby on rails
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> its a universal language
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> maths?
[06:15] <eetfunk> never heard of it.  ironpython sure looks pretty nice
[06:16] <MrWok1> how can i save a word document into a folder that doesn't belong to me?  I'm not even running it
[06:16] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I think part of the issue is the CLR itself.
[06:16] <oxygene_> then copy or move it with sudo
[06:17] <brian98> indref,  write read execute
[06:17] <MrWok1> Ah ok
[06:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> so how do i make things with python?
[06:17] <indref> Pretend for a moment that I have never used the console before. :|
[06:17] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Boo is strongly, statically typed, but it infers the types for you, which is usually just as good. :) (Though, it does allow you to use ducktyping)
[06:17] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i doubt it, the clr is very fast, much faster than any scripted language
[06:17] <brian98> ok
[06:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I make a window in python. That has stuff inside of it.
[06:17] <brian98> what is the name of the dir
[06:17] <indref> /home/indref
[06:17] <shawnr_> Sktfeelsdapper, #python
[06:17] <oxygene_> indref, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3127/
[06:17] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The issue with python is it's VERY reflective, and it has first-class functions, etc.
[06:17] <brian98> can we pretend your username is indref
[06:17] <Somniis> Sktfeelsdapper: learn python and you will know :P
[06:18] <indref> Well, it is
[06:18] <brian98> ok
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Where's that room at here?
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> join /#python
[06:18] <MrWok1> What's a good code editor?
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Huh I didn't know there was really a room.
[06:18] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The clr is very fast, but it has very different design constraints to CPython.
[06:18] <Tokenbad> has anyone got cdemu to work on ubuntu?
[06:18] <ixian> ati
[06:18] <Arafangion> MrWok1: vim
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> MrWok1, vim or emacs
[06:18] <MrWok1> cheers
[06:19] <Somniis> MrWok1: gedit, vim, or emacs
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> or echo ...
[06:19] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: /join #python
[06:19] <Geoffrey2> anyone here using the Intel Graphics chipset?
[06:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just did.
[06:19] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you need a newer kernel than in the dapper repositories
[06:19] <oxygene_> cdemu requires linux kernel version 2.6.16
[06:20] <brian98> chmod -R ugo+wrx /home/indref
[06:20] <brian98> try
[06:20] <indref> sudo?
[06:20] <SeraVitae> hi there, gotta generate a new xorg conf file, what's the pkg name for dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:20] <ronybeck> do I use hcitool to pair with a blue tooth device?
[06:20] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, the older versions don't...but got different error when tried to make with older version
[06:20] <oxygene_> xserver-org
[06:20] <Somniis> SeraVitae: xserver-xorg
[06:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> how long did it take you to learn python?
[06:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I mean really really learn it and know it.
[06:20] <Tokenbad> the 0.7 works with 2.6 kernels
[06:20] <indref> Hmm.
[06:21] <brian98> SeraVitae, xorg-server
[06:21] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, well, what's the error message?
[06:21] <SeraVitae> ahh, ta
[06:21] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop
[06:21] <swj> ronybeck: thats what I use - took a couple of times though-I use a motorolla e815
[06:21] <brian98> indref suo
[06:21] <brian98> sudo
[06:21] <indref> Perfect.
[06:21] <SeraVitae> wierd it says xorg-server is not installed
[06:21] <indref> brian98, Thank you very much :D
[06:21] <brian98> ronybeck, http://www.linux.ie/articles/bluetoothheadset.php
[06:21] <brian98> indref: glad it worked :)
[06:22] <indref> brian98, Me too, changing that stuff is dangerous.
[06:22] <kdean06> Does anyone have any tutorials or suggestions on burning video that will play in standalone DVD players? I'm not concerned about menus and whatnot, and I'd prefer a GUI so as not to have to constantly refer to a howto, but I will. :)
[06:22] <ronybeck> swj, ok,  so I should be able to do hcitool cc <mac> then hcitool auth <mac> then supply my pin number right?
[06:22] <brian98> kdean06
[06:22] <brian98> kdean06, do a search for tovid on google
[06:22] <swj> ronybeck: what kind of device is it?
[06:22] <ronybeck> swj: gps?
[06:22] <SeraVitae> how would i go about finding out what it is, if it's not xorg-server ? i should state i am using badger, not dapper.
[06:23] <ronybeck> swj, sorry, slip on the keyboard.  It is a GPS
[06:23] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:23] <oxygene_> maybe that's missing
[06:23] <oxygene_> the ` is the backtick
[06:23] <oxygene_> alternatively you could just insert your current kernel name
[06:23] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, trying
[06:24] <grte> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with my resolution. I can't go higher than 1024x768, and going through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg process has not fixed it.
[06:24] <grte> anyone know what the problem might be?
[06:24] <brian98> grte: what card?
[06:24] <grte> Just a moment...
[06:24] <Somniis> grte: can your vid card handle higher than that?
[06:24] <brian98> and what monitor :) ?
[06:25] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, that seems to fix that problem...trying now
[06:25] <Somniis> yeah, and monitor :)
[06:25] <grte> GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200
[06:25] <grte> Somniis: Yes, it can.
[06:25] <brian98> and what monitor :) ?
[06:25] <grte> Monitor can as well - it has before.
[06:25] <Somniis> hmm.
[06:25] <brian98> what screen is it
[06:25] <grte> What do you mean?
[06:25] <Somniis> grte: have you downloaded the nvidia drivers?
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to watch videos in totem-xine, but notice that the video looks overly bright, almost completely white in some scenes...I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, and installed 915resolution, but that hasn't helped...any suggestions?
[06:26] <grte> Somniis: Yes, and modified xorg.conf to include nvidia rather than nv.
[06:26] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, seemed to be installed but now when try to run it get another error...heheh
[06:26] <Somniis> that's odd..
[06:26] <grte> I get the nvidia splash and can play tremulous, so I assume it's working.
[06:26] <oxygene_> what does it say?
[06:26] <Somniis> yes, lol, i'd hope so :-)
[06:26] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, raise CDEmu_Error, "could't find block device, if you've no devfs make sure you created them"
[06:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there a plugin for xmms that plays m4a audio files, or something that converts them?
[06:27] <swj> ronybeck: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FVbgTF23.html  Thats how I do it-but to answer your original question again, I have to use  hcitool scan
[06:27] <MaD_MaX> Hi all. Is there any body who can answer my q?
[06:27] <Somniis> MaD_MaX: just ask
[06:27] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, how do you start cdemu?
[06:27] <grte> Well, that depends on your question.
[06:27] <brian98> Sktfeelsdapper, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t37261.html
[06:28] <brian98> Sktfeelsdapper, even better : http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/42508-m4a-xmms.html
[06:28] <swj> ronybeck: before I get a 'sync' I dont have to worry about address and so on...its thats simple
[06:28] <ronybeck> swj, thanks heaps!!
[06:28] <ronybeck> swj, I will go do some reading
[06:28] <grte> Has anyone here managed to compile ncmpc-svn?
[06:28] <SeraVitae> Okay, so dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server tells me that xorg-server isn't installed. what can i do to find out what it's called?
[06:28] <swj> ronybeck: welcome
[06:28] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, did the module load into the kernel successfully?
[06:29] <grte> SeraVitae: The command is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:29] <Somniis> SeraVitae: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:29] <MaD_MaX> I wont to install ubuntu (server) on old PC, but i can not burn ISO image on to CD. I already have bootable CD, and i can boot from HD (on this machine) from Ubuntu desctop. Is there any way to install from ISO image?
[06:29] <SeraVitae> ah, cool, thanks Somniis. :)
[06:29] <Somniis> lol, grte got it in before me :P
[06:29] <craigbass1976> Hey folks.  I just installed Ubuntu.  Coming from Fedoraland (been using linux regularly since FC1) is there anything radically different?  I'm also familiar with Knoppix, so I'm guessing I'll do all right.
[06:29] <brian98> MaD_MaX, are you running windows?
[06:29] <grte> craigbass1976: The biggest difference is package management.
[06:30] <brian98> craigbass1976, like a duck to water !
[06:30] <MaD_MaX> In this moment, yes. But im using different PC.
[06:30] <grte> apt and deb instead of rpm and yast.
[06:30] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I mean should I just convert the m4a into mp3?
[06:30] <brian98> and a lot less bloat
[06:30] <brian98> :)
[06:30] <craigbass1976> So, once I get apt figured out (and I did a debian install last week so I'm catching on...) I should be good to go?
[06:30] <oxygene_> other than that, if you're used to knoppix which is also debian based, you will habe fun wich ubuntu
[06:30] <kdean06> brian98, Thanks, i think that's what I'm looking for.
[06:30] <grte> Yeah, pretty much.
[06:31] <brian98> kdean06, it does all the command line work for you
[06:31] <brian98> ju
[06:31] <arnducky> I'm a little lost in the directory structure of an official mirror.  I want to download Dapper and latest Edgy DVD ISO images.  What are the files called and in what directory(ies) should I find them?
[06:31] <brian98> kdean06, just be careful of the dependecies!
[06:31] <MrWok1> How can I rename a folder that I don't own? "sudo"...?
[06:31] <craigbass1976> Well, when I use Knoppix, it's always because something bad happened to someone's box, so I pretty much just use it to move files somewhere before a windows reinstall.
[06:31] <grte> MrWok1: Yup.
[06:31] <SeraVitae> sudo mv <olddirname> <newdirname> ?
[06:31] <firefly2442> What should I do if dpkg --purge doesn't remove a package?
[06:31] <MaD_MaX> Brian: I can boot from Ubuntu Desctop CD, Ubuntu Desctop HD, UD Floppy, Others Distos.
[06:32] <kdean06> brian98, Yeah. :) I don't mind the CLI, but it's a process that requires several steps for the most part, and I'm not familiar with it, my wife just got a digital video camera for her birthday, so we're playing around with it.
[06:32] <craigbass1976> The sudo thing is weird.  In reading around it doesn't sound like one way is really any better than the other.  I'm used to su - though, so first off I'll be giving root a password.
[06:32] <Tokenbad> damn guess can't load this bin file cause it errors when load the bin...something about spaces
[06:32] <torchie> hmm
[06:32] <brian98> Ok , it works for me, not for everyone, as I said just watch the dependencies!
[06:32] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, the exact error msg please
[06:33] <craigbass1976> Thanks guys.  I'm off to play....
[06:33] <torchie> when the ubuntu cd says it's uncompressing the kernel or something, it also says something along the lines of "failed to allocate mem resource
[06:33] <torchie> "
[06:33] <brian98> it also allows you to convert xvid to dvd etc....
[06:33] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, will post to pastebin
[06:34] <MaD_MaX> Q: Need to install Ubu Server from ISO Image. Can boot from Ubu Desctop HD, CD, Floppy and others distros'. How i can do that?
[06:34] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry man, I've lost track, what were you doing?
[06:34] <arnducky> MrWok, you may want to do suco cp <oldirname> <newdirname>  then rm -rf <olddirname>
[06:34] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25372/
[06:34] <brian98> MaD_MaX, you can boot from CD?
[06:34] <MrWok1> How would I do that seravitae? If I have a folder called bob and want to rename it dave. Both in ~/Desktop/Jim
[06:34] <arnducky> MrWok, errr.... suco = sudo
[06:35] <MrWok1> Ah arnducky, ok
[06:35] <wickedpuppy> arnducky, you mean cp -a ?
[06:35] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, seems like a cdemu problem or a problem with the .bin. however this doesn't need to be a problem though
[06:35] <brian98> MrWok, mv bob dave
[06:35] <arnducky> TY wickedpuppy re: MrWok
[06:35] <MaD_MaX> Brian98, I can boot from Desctop CD. But not from Server CD as is ISO Image that i cannot burn.
[06:35] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, but [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/dev/cdemu3' is
[06:35] <oxygene_> try startig cdemu with sudo
[06:35] <arnducky> (c)o(p)y (a)LL
[06:35] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I did
[06:36] <arnducky> MrWok, I just suggested it since the mv command can be nasty if you make a typo -- heh
[06:36] <brian98> MaD_MaX, why can't you burn it? /me is getting ready to watch chinese GP :)
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> MaD_MaX, how can you not burn an ISO image ?
[06:36] <oxygene_> you did successfully load the kernel module, Tokenbad ?
[06:37] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yes...
[06:37] <brian98> it's only 5:36 am here
[06:37] <Tokenbad> but let me check something
[06:37] <Somniis> only? :)
[06:37] <MaD_MaX> wickedpuppy - I have no CD Burner.   Go to "Ship Ubuntu" and see that there is no Ship Server CD in there. But any way, i don't wont to bother only for ask 1 cd! And it will take long time.
[06:39] <Somniis> i think
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, do you have a cdrom drive
[06:39] <Somniis> :-( sorry MaD.  i just took a stab at it :)
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, not a burner
 I have no idea what is RomDrive. Must be some kind of RAM/HD emulator!?!
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry left out cd
[06:39] <steveneddy> ok - got a question....
[06:39] <brian98> cd romdrive
 and you have the iso of the server? <- That is correct.
[06:39] <jarrod06> .seen sabdfl
[06:40] <brian98> ok
[06:40] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I will have to pastebin the results
[06:40] <oxygene_> sure, go on
[06:40] <brian98> Mad_Max my suggestion is this bear with me because this is going to be a long message
[06:40] <MaD_MaX> do you have a cdrom drive <- I do. That is why i can boot from Desctop CD.
[06:40] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25373/
[06:41] <Somniis> i don't know for sure.. but does the server ubuntu have a "live cd" thing like the desktop version?
[06:41] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, hmm. so the devices are there
[06:41] <Tokenbad> now how to read them
[06:41] <Tokenbad> heheh
[06:41] <brian98> MaD_MaX, boot to the desktop cd, choose option 1 then when all is good and you have ubuntu desktop insert the server cd
 No.
[06:41] <bretzel> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:41] <Somniis> bummer.  you could mount it with daemon tools or something else, and run it like that if so.
[06:42] <oxygene_> I've no idea why it says "[Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/dev/cdemu3'"
[06:42] <blujay> Is there a separate channel for Edgy?
[06:42] <oxygene_> but then again: I haven't ever used cdemu
[06:42] <Overand> blujay: #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <|thunder> ya, #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <oxygene_> so I can't help you from here
[06:42] <blujay> thanks Overand and |thunder,
 Hahaha. Ok. Will try. Can i emulate ISO image and change INSTALL Program path?
[06:42] <bretzel> ""The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL"" ???
[06:43] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry right click on the iso and extract here
[06:43] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, should I be able to mount them like cd-rom drives?
[06:43] <oxygene_> i suppose
[06:43] <brian98> then
[06:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do you command line and get rid of a program you installed?
[06:43] <brian98> MaD_MaX, then
[06:43] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you should be able to mount the devices
[06:44] <SeraVitae> Sktfeelsdapper - open a term and go sudo synaptic
[06:44] <SeraVitae> that's about the easiest way
[06:44] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, just how...
[06:44] <oxygene_> what do you type? cdemu 0 image.cue ?
[06:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> isn't there like an uninstall?
[06:44] <Tokenbad> I got around the device stuff
[06:44] <SeraVitae> skt - yeah, man apt-get
[06:44] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yes
[06:44] <SeraVitae> but like i said, synaptic or a package manager is an easier way if you dont know how to do it already
[06:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just installed audacity, and I want to remove it, I installed it from the command line.
[06:44] <Tokenbad> but had to go to 5 to get it to work
[06:45] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, i think ya can booot from iso
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> Sktfeelsdapper, you can do sudo apt-get remove ... got it ? change install to remove
[06:45] <xenoNfluX> Sktfeelsdapper, sudo apt-get remove audacity
[06:45] <kdean06> Sktfeelsdapper, dpkg remove (--purge) or apt-get remove (--purge) works. Add the --purge to either if you want to remove that apps config files. You can also do the same in Synaptic
[06:45] <maquis> where did the option for a server install disappear to?
[06:46] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html will give you an idea of how to mount the iso
 That's what i wont to do. But how you can tell PC to boot from iso as it needs program to do that. Some kind of inteligen BIOS!
[06:46] <maquis> i don't like >90% of the stuff ubuntu installs by default, but i really want to give ubuntu a fair try at least
[06:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> i still need an all purpose mp3, m4a converter.
[06:46] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, i have no idea. try consulting cdemu resources or maybe even the author
[06:46] <oxygene_> or try another .bin/.cue
[06:46] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[06:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> i want to convert m4a's into mp3's if it all possible.
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> maquis, which stuff you don't like ? gnome ?
[06:46] <brian98> if you do that after you boot from the live cd you should be able to install from the server after you  mount it
[06:46] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, sudo cdemu 5 mini.cue
[06:47] <Tokenbad> mounted fine
[06:47] <Tokenbad> was a test img
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: gnome, openoffice, pretty much all the X-based software
[06:47] <Tokenbad> but how to make it readable
[06:47] <oxygene_> so the other .img won't?
[06:47] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Installation:No_CD
[06:47] <jarrod06> Sktfeelsdapper: you dont want to do that, you will lose audio quality and the resulting files will sound poorly
[06:47] <shriphani> that might give you an idea
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> maquis, i don't know how to tell ya but ... you can install ubuntu as server ?
[06:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> So what should I convert them to? I can't play them on xmms.
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: is there still an option for a server install that only does the basics?
[06:47] <Tokenbad> gave the same error as before...but without the permission denied stuff
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i know the previous versions gave 2 options for installs...
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> !server
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't want to stop using xmms, since I like it more than half these other things.
[06:47] <Tokenbad> about the space stuff
[06:47] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning will work!
[06:48] <maquis> if ubuntu doesn't have that i may end up going to something else instead
[06:48] <gpro> !java
[06:48] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:48] <gpro> !apache
[06:48] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> maquis, why not ? i been moving around fedora ... suse .. debian and ubuntu all the time
[06:49] <ClayG> i need an xp pro key
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> ClayG, very funny ...
[06:49] <infbliss> ClayG:try FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8
[06:49] <shriphani> lol
 <shriphani> Thank you so much. Will try.
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> infbliss, i don't think we encourage piracy ?
[06:50] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i want something i can get up quickly
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> piracy hurts linux downloads :P
[06:50] <ClayG> thanks ill try, im fixing this womans computer fro work
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> uh
[06:50] <maquis> wickedpuppy: and i really wanted to actually give ubuntu a chance
[06:50] <ClayG> and now it's a fcking nightmare
[06:50] <oxygene_> well, FCKGW won't work for SPx-installs =)
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> don't give serials on this channel plz
[06:50] <ClayG> i have to reinstall windows and like a moron i didnt right the key on the outside of my "legal backup"
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> maquis, try fedora ... minimum install and i showd ya the server install links .. if you still want the server
[06:51] <unfknblvbl> i don't want this server to die from that
[06:51] <infbliss> oxygene_ is right
[06:51] <ClayG> dunno which this is, xp pro without sp2 i think
[06:51] <ClayG> hope
[06:51] <ClayG> lets see
[06:51] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, on the other bin...it just said the stuff about the spaces
[06:51] <oxygene_> ClayG, you're wrong here, if you need a xp key
[06:51] <oxygene_> consult your local software dealer
[06:51] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, you could use this as well
[06:51] <InfoSpy> does jdeveloper work on ubuntu?
[06:52] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i've tried fedora before...
[06:52] <shriphani> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[06:52] <brian98> maquis, fedorra is a wickedpuppy
[06:52] <brian98> :)
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> maquis, may i ask what you are looking for ??
[06:52] <ClayG> infbliss, thanks but dind't work
[06:52] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, so maybe some incompatibilities. but definitely beyond my scope
[06:52] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, that link i posted is ubuntu specific
 <-- Thanks.
[06:52] <brian98> maquis, well, it's very different
[06:52] <oxygene_> you should consult the cdemu community or even file a bug
[06:52] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i'm looking for something that will get me up quickly, but won't install the stuff i don't want
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> maquis, gentoo
[06:53] <infbliss> ClayG: i think you are installing SP1 or above
[06:53] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i said i wanted to be up quickly
[06:53] <fluvvell> ClayG, it won't work unless yo have a unique one for that machine
[06:53] <maquis> and my machine runs *way* too hot for gentoo... i ran that on another machine for over a year
[06:53] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yeah think its that bin..emailed the auther about it
[06:53] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, you use gentoo ?
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> btw fedora or ubuntu can be installed in 10 min
[06:53] <maquis> honestly, a large part of it is, i want to give ubuntu a real try
[06:53] <fluvvell> ClayG specially if you've got it connected to the net
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, used to
[06:53] <maquis> i tried it once but reformatted within a week
[06:53] <shriphani> i used it for like 5 hours :D
[06:53] <ClayG> fluvvell, they still work i haven't had a copy not work
[06:54] <ClayG> worse is not being to update after sp2
[06:54] <SeraVitae> anyone wanna suggest a light torrent client? gotta run it on a 433mhz celeron + 192mb ram nix box.
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> maquis, i think if you spend the time talking to us here on installing any of the distros you will find what you want
[06:54] <shriphani> its a pain in the ar$e
 <-- In last link you posted you need windows. I have only Ubuntu. :D Will read it any way.
[06:54] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nevermind I found a plugin for xmms :D
[06:54] <ClayG> i hit the newsgroups but looks like ms somehow got alot of postings removed
[06:54] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning will work!
[06:54] <fluvvell> ClayG, they work for one then whoever it was copied from has probs once they download the w genuine update
[06:54] <ClayG> used to be filled with them
[06:54] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i've tried a lot of distros
[06:54] <brian98> MaD_MaX, used it b4
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> maquis, you don't like them all ? then there is always windows
[06:55] <maquis> i've done a couple versions of fedora, gentoo, freebsd, rhel, centos, etc
[06:55] <brian98> msg me if you have any probs
[06:55] <maquis> i just want to do a server install of ubuntu
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> !server
[06:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> i thought i did that already ?
[06:55] <MaD_MaX> Ok. Thanks. Now must go and give it a try.
[06:55] <fluvvell> ClayG, they want their computer fixed yet they don't already have a valid licence sticker on the box?
[06:55] <MaD_MaX> Cyas.
[06:55] <vick> Anybody know of any GUI process manager ? [list, send signal, etc..]
[06:55] <InfoSpy> why does my ubuntu box, sometimes i get sound sometimes i dont. Honestly i feel happy with it, it's really stable something this gateway has not being, but i was wondering if that could get fixed.
[06:56] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=83151#post83151
[06:56] <brian98> gnome-sessionmanager or somat
[06:56] <oxygene_> okay, bye. i'm out
[06:56] <kamui> what program should I use to burn an ISO?
[06:56] <shriphani> kamui, os ?
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> kamui, gnomebaker or k3b
[06:56] <keegan> !Restricted
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <kdean06> brian98, I'm getting errors during encode when the makexml is passed, have you seen this before and know of a work around?
[06:56] <MaD_MaX> Yahho.. That is the best :D
[06:56] <ricky> hi
[06:56] <dekup> hi. how can i learn my kernels mtrr configuration? compiled with mtrr or not?
[06:57] <kamui> shriphani: Im in ubuntu of course :)
[06:57] <maquis> ah... apparently i can download a whole other iso to get the server version
[06:57] <maquis> that's stupid
[06:57] <brian98> kdean06 is this with tovid?
[06:57] <shriphani> kamui, ubuntu comes with an app
[06:57] <kdean06> Yep.
[06:57] <ricky> how can i put my menu transparent
[06:57] <keegan> !Restricted
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <shriphani> rt. click on the iso and 'Write To CD'
[06:57] <brian98> kdean06 did you add menus
[06:57] <kamui> shriphani: thanks, whats the app are you referring to
[06:57] <ClayG> fluvvell, this woman is a moron, im a bigger oe though because i forgot that once you touch a computer you "own" it
[06:57] <ClayG> forever
[06:58] <ClayG> anything that happens afterwards is your fault
[06:58] <ricky> hey anybody there
[06:58] <shriphani> kamui, rt. click on the iso and 'Write To CD'
[06:58] <kdean06> brian98, Yes, the instructions say you must add a menu before adding video files, so I've added one.
[06:58] <brian98> ricky, we're all alive!
[06:58] <ClayG> and they "wish they never did it" and tell you every day how "it was so much better before"
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> ClayG, rinkworks.com/stupid ... thats the page for ya
[06:58] <ClayG> lol
[06:58] <MrWok> Thanks for all your help guys
[06:58] <ClayG> this lady at work is killing me
[06:58] <MrWok> I've finally got it all worked out and will install a ubuntu install without X.
[06:58] <ricky> anybody know how can i put my menu transparent?
[06:59] <dekup> how can i learn my kernels mtrr configuration? compiled with mtrr or not? anyone knows?
[06:59] <kamui> shriphani: I thought the intergrated burn capability of gnome wouldn't burn operating system isos properly, as in they wont boot
[06:59] <SeraVitae> hmmmm
[06:59] <ClayG> i fixed a virus she had and then 2 days later she is asked me "a message popped up that i may be infected and to click here to fix it, i did and it said i had to pay! what did you do!?!?!!"
 I fix someones PC and then 6 months later it fucks up. My fault, of course.
[07:02] <ricky> hey infbliss i have gnome
[07:02] <ClayG> yeah, and it's always the ones you do for free that end up being the worse
[07:02] <infbliss> infbliss:i am talkin abt gnome only
[07:02] <matt__> i was able to get audio before, but then i started listening to MP3s, so now I turn off XMMS and now i lost my Flash audio how do i fix it?
[07:02] <odyssevs> Which kernel is ubuntu shipping with presently?
[07:02] <hanasaki> wickedpuppy, ya.. but that does ldap generically.. not for posix accounts
[07:02] <Overand> odyssevs: the linux kernel
[07:02] <Overand> (heh)
[07:02] <Overand> sorry- had to
[07:02] <ricky> ok
[07:03] <infbliss> ricky:use the transparency slider in the panel properties
[07:03] <downer> i'm having a small, connecting to the access point problem.
[07:03] <Omar> Hello guys, please help me, I was trying to install xgl and now I can-t start my ubuntu, the error is server x failed (graphic interfaz) what can I do I need to get in , I am in a Live CD now
[07:03] <odyssevs> Overand, come on, give me some numbers.
[07:03] <Madpilot> odyssevs, I'm not sure what's on the actual install CD, but my up-to-date Dapper system has 2.6.15-27-386
[07:03] <downer> and i cant figure out what is going on
[07:03] <odyssevs> Eek.
[07:03] <infbliss> ricky:u got it
[07:03] <kamui> gnomebaker seems to be working pretty good
[07:03] <odyssevs> I'm after .17-r2 or .18
[07:03] <Madpilot> odyssevs, update to Edgy
[07:03] <ricky> no
[07:03] <odyssevs> (Without the trauma of doing it myself.)
[07:04] <ricky> can you explain again please?
[07:04] <Overand> odyssevs: i'm sure someoine's got it packaged up, somewhere
[07:04] <hanasaki> kamui, it crashes on me big time.. i had to goto k3b :( hana no like kde
[07:04] <infbliss> ricky:right click on menu and select properties
[07:05] <shriphani> kamui you could try graveman
[07:05] <brian98> everyone hope I was of some assistance off to watch the chinese gp ;)
[07:05] <brian98> later people
[07:05] <downer> f
[07:05] <downer> is there any known problems with connecting to wireless ap
[07:05] <ricky> oh thanx i got it
[07:05] <downer> 's with orinoco gold cards?
[07:06] <Omar> Hello guys, please help me, I was trying to install xgl and now I can-t start my ubuntu, the error is server x failed (graphic interfaz) what can I do I need to get in , I am in a Live CD now
[07:06] <brian98> downer, just driver issue usually
[07:06] <infbliss> ricky:but does not the window list look ugly when you use transparency
[07:06] <odyssevs> Overand, is there a decent wifi card which is certain to work under Ubuntu?
[07:07] <odyssevs> I'm developing a serious stretch of uncombable hair with my present card.
[07:07] <downer> brian98: i cant get my shit to connect to the AP
[07:07] <downer> and i cant figure it out
[07:07] <ricky> ok
[07:07] <brian98> downer, shell - iwconfig
[07:07] <brian98> what do you get
[07:07] <brian98> do you get no wireless extenstions
[07:07] <brian98> extensions
[07:07] <downer> it shows me the essid correctly
[07:07] <ricky> yeah
[07:07] <brian98> ok
[07:07] <ricky> i c
[07:07] <downer> but when i go into the wireless monitor icon
[07:08] <downer> it says 'disconnected'
[07:08] <brian98> yeah
[07:08] <brian98> you gotta change
[07:08] <brian98> the name
[07:08] <brian98> to wlan0
[07:08] <brian98> or eth1
[07:08] <downer> i did t hat
[07:08] <odyssevs> brian98, what's a sit0 ?
[07:08] <Parabola> aww yea
[07:08] <Parabola> level 11 on kbounce
[07:08] <brian98> odyssevs, I dunno....
[07:08] <ricky> infbliss do you have fluxbox too?
[07:08] <brian98> Did I say something?
[07:08] <downer> brian98: it shows 98% signal strength, but no packets transmitting and status is disconnected.
[07:09] <brian98> configure
[07:09] <infbliss> ricky:no
[07:09] <brian98> is it enabled and it the ssid in the ssid name
[07:09] <ricky> you only have gnome?
[07:09] <brian98> is dhcp selected
[07:09] <infbliss> ricky:gnome and xfce
[07:09] <ricky> ok
[07:09] <downer> brian98: yes.
[07:09] <brian98> ifconfig
[07:09] <downer> and no security whatsoever.
[07:09] <brian98> what do you get
[07:10] <grte> Can anyone tell me what this compiling error might mean? http://pastebin.ca/187494
[07:10] <ricky> i have fluxbox too but i dont know how out my menu transparent
[07:10] <arnducky> brian98, odyssevs 'sit0' (in the context of Linux networkng) is a tunnel adapter, as in L2TP
[07:10] <arnducky> (or pptp)
[07:10] <arnducky> ala VPNs
[07:11] <ricky> i will back
[07:11] <downer> brian98: ifconfig lists eth1, and just basically says no packets are transmitting
[07:12] <downer> ifconfig eth1 up doesnt work either
[07:12] <odyssevs> arnducky, good man.
[07:12] <arnducky> REPOST: (doesn't anyone know this?) I'm a little lost in the directory structure of an official mirror.  I want to download Dapper and latest Edgy DVD ISO images.  What are the files called and in what directory(ies) should I find them?
[07:13] <ricky> hey
[07:13] <encompass> hi?
[07:13] <infbliss> ricky:what fluxbox version do you use
[07:13] <kamui> ok, one more question, how do I split a ext3 partition so that I can use some of my unused drive space to install another os?
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted
[07:13] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted > kamui
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> That didn't work.
[07:14] <ricky> i use fluxbox-0.9.14
[07:14] <encompass> he
[07:14] <surface3> ricky:  fluxbox have later version
[07:14] <encompass> well, is it the first yet?
[07:14] <encompass> I woke up this morning realizing it is the first of october... hmmm 6.10?
[07:14] <infbliss> ricky:can you tell me what fluxbox -i tells
[07:14] <ricky> yeah
[07:15] <acidmax> hi allllllllllll
[07:15] <kamui> one more cd burning question.  could I have actually used DD to write the iso to the dvdrom drive device from the command line?
[07:15] <infbliss> ricky:also try xdpyinfo|grep RENDER
[07:15] <encompass> whereis allllllllll
[07:16] <acidmax> or
[07:16] <acidmax> hi everybody
[07:16] <acidmax> :P
[07:16] <encompass> hehe
[07:16] <acidmax> jejejee
[07:16] <surface2> ricky:  v1.0rc2
[07:16] <ricky> i dont have that version
[07:17] <infbliss> surface2,ricky: 0.9.2 and above support transparency
[07:17] <acidmax> encompass:  i learn english
[07:17] <arnducky> kamui, basically, yes
[07:17] <ricky> it tell me 0.9.12
[07:17] <ricky> that one support transparency?
[07:17] <infbliss> ricky:yes
[07:18] <infbliss> ricky:also try xdpyinfo|grep RENDER
[07:19] <surface2> infbliss:  yeah, it works fine
[07:19] <brian98> downer: does it have an ip
[07:19] <brian98> ?
[07:19] <ricky> only say RENDER
[07:19] <brian98> I gotta run now...
[07:19] <Parabola> omg
[07:19] <brian98> can someone else help downer ?
[07:20] <surface2> ricky:  screenshot http://mysurface.no-ip.org/download/16-sep-2006.png
[07:20] <infbliss> ricky:if fluxbox -i says -RENDER then you may have to recompile
[07:21] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'll try one more time....I have totem-xine installed, and have an Intel 915 onboard graphics chip...I've noticed that videos look terrible, being entirely too bright, in some cases all I see are large blobs of white....any suggestions on how to fix the problem?  Thanks....
[07:21] <ricky> typed xdpyinfo | grep RENDER and only say RENDER
[07:22] <ricky> when i type fluxbox -i it tells info about fluxbox
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: go to edit - preferences - display tab. Adjust brightness\contrast to a reasonable level.
[07:24] <ArrenLex> And saturation and hue and whatever else make your video look fine.
[07:24] <bcarlson> What is the differnce between the server and desktop kernels?
[07:25] <odyssevs> Any way of installing Ubuntu off a flash card?
[07:25] <bcarlson> I assume there is a difference between installing the server and then installing the gnome desktop then only installing the live cd?
[07:26] <downer> brian98: i am not getting an ip
[07:26] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, I have also noticed that occurs when not on xv video display mode.
[07:26] <downer> brian98: and dhclient just does nothing.
[07:30] <SeraVitae> is there a package for azureus for ubuntu?
[07:30] <SeraVitae> im guessing not since its just a .jar file
[07:31] <ricky> hey
[07:31] <Tokenbad> apt-cache search azureus
[07:31] <Tokenbad> its there
[07:31] <ricky> hey every body
[07:31] <downer> brian98: in dmesg its saying eth1: link is not ready
[07:31] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, how would I go about adjusting that?
[07:33] <Tokenbad> SeraVitae, apt-cache search azureus
[07:34] <ricky> anybody know how can i put the fluxbox menu transparent?
[07:34] <eigenlambda> ya...
[07:34] <eigenlambda> right-click it
[07:34] <eigenlambda> oh, the menu
[07:34] <ricky> ya
[07:34] <eigenlambda> nvm
[07:34] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:34] <eigenlambda> um
[07:34] <ricky> what is um
[07:34] <eigenlambda> somewhere in the theme file.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> !enter
[07:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:34] <ricky> ok
[07:35] <ricky> ya
[07:35] <eigenlambda> i used to know... back when i use fluxbox...
[07:35] <eigenlambda> ArrenLex: totally!! good point.  im sorry.
[07:35] <ricky> ok
[07:36] <ricky> contineu
[07:36] <kamui> so its not possible to resize a partition Im currently using is it.  I probably have to boot from a livecd huh?
[07:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> !lame
[07:36] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[07:36] <ricky> eigenlamdba are you there
[07:36] <eigenlambda> session.screen0.menu... um...
[07:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok what i don't understand is, is it possible to get into my mp3 files from bash?
[07:37] <kamui> for some reason, I thought I could make changes to the partition table and they would take effect after reboot
[07:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> so i can use lame to convert them into mp3?
[07:37] <ricky> where is that?
[07:37] <jvai> hey any1 using the Epiphany browser? what's the experience?
[07:37] <kamui> however running parted as root has the resize option dimmed on the drive Im trying to shrink
[07:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> !bash
[07:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:37] <kamui> which happens to be the only drive and partiton on the computer other than the swap partition
[07:37] <Madpilot> jvai, it's better than Firefox, I think...
[07:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Anyone?
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, you said it also occurs when not on xv video display mode...how would I go about fixing this?
[07:38] <jvai> madpilot: is the icon the same as the blue globe for ff?
[07:38] <Madpilot> jvai, almost, it seems to use a paler blue globe
[07:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know how I'm suppose to use lame if I can't even get into my mp3's to change them?!?
[07:39] <jvai> ooo ok
[07:39] <jvai> yea cause this FF globe is a rich blue dark like..
[07:39] <ArrenLex> jvai: epiphany is useable, but not complete enough for me. I prefer firefox.
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> I'd had things set up well, and then two days ago Ubuntu melted down on me and forced me to reformat, so I'm busy picking up the pieces and trying to get everything working again like it was....
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Er... iceweasel, I guess.
[07:40] <eigenlambda> what?? that makes no sense
[07:40] <eigenlambda> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/fluxstyle-man.html
[07:40] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, what do you mean "get into" them?
[07:40] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, "Copyfox" ;)
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> from the command line
[07:40] <eigenlambda> well, that's how you configure your fluxbox style.  but theres no transparency on it!!
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> i put in
[07:40] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, yes, from the command line. What do you mean "get into" them?
[07:40] <jvai> arrenlex, what's it lacking?
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/  And then the name of the folder with the mp3's in it
[07:41] <ArrenLex> jvai: well, all the extensions I'm used to, for one.
[07:41] <jvai> ooo ok
[07:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> And it says "Cannot not find "the"
[07:41] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, did you delete them?
[07:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nope they are still there.
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: is that official?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Or are we kidding?
[07:41] <sasank> can some please tell me what is the directory /etc/init.d/ used for? and the file /etc/init.d/local used for?
[07:41] <shriphani> brb time to install debian on this box (dual booting debian and ubuntu
[07:41] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, no, but as an Opera user, that's what I've always called FF
[07:41] <jvai> i'm stuk on this thing about debian vs mozzilla.. sad
[07:41] <shriphani> wish me good luck folks !!!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[07:41] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, is there a space after the word the?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: since you've got crazy admin knowledge, what is Ubuntu going to be doing to the FF package?
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there suppose to be?
[07:42] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, haven't a clue
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Because for example
[07:42] <kamui> ooooooook
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/The Bled/
[07:42] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, I do not know. I am asking you.
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> And it tells me no such thing exists but it's there.
[07:42] <Madpilot> Sktfeelsdapper, try typing "The<tab>" to auto complete with the space
[07:43] <jvai> ubuntu may follow debian... we're mostly the same... ubuntu needs debian
[07:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it keeps giving me a "could not find "the"
[07:43] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, why don't you try replacing the spaces in the names with underscores? Bash does not handle spaces very well in all circumstances.
 is the most useful key
[07:43] <SeraVitae> what packages should i get to install java?
[07:43] <SeraVitae> java-common, anything else?
[07:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about java
[07:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> no such file or directory
[07:43] <conner> unfknblvbl, except when there are multiple spaces in the file. Bash does not like that.
[07:44] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, yes, have you replaced the spaces with underscores?
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> The_Bled
[07:44] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, Type gstreamer-properties
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't think there's anymore spaces in the file name.
[07:44] <ShadeT> Go to video tab
[07:44] <ShadeT> And see if any of the other output plugins work
[07:44] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, and has the error message changed?
[07:44] <SeraVitae> Madpilot - 'cant find package sun-java5-jre'
[07:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nope still "cannot find"
[07:45] <Madpilot> SeraVitae, did you mention earlier that you're still running 6.04 (Breezy)?
[07:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> but i can play these songs just fine!
[07:45] <Overand> boozy
[07:45] <jvai> efty's browser may be called "bon echo"?
[07:45] <shriphani> hey ppl now i need a goodd burning app
[07:46] <shriphani> i wasted like 10 cds on for this debian iso
[07:46] <jvai> gnome baker for burning
[07:46] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, perhaps you have the case wrong? Capital "T" vs "t"?
[07:46] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, that would work, even if I'm using totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer?
[07:46] <shriphani> some boot others dont
[07:46] <SeraVitae> madewokherd - yeah, i did mention that earlier
[07:46] <SeraVitae> server install of badger
[07:46] <shriphani> some cant load installer packages
[07:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> nope still the same.
[07:46] <SeraVitae> i dont mind upgrading to dapper but i don't know how
[07:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> aren't i suppose to be able to go in and at least look at the mp3 files from the command line?
[07:46] <SeraVitae> i'd prefer to be on dapper cuz im used to it on my other boxes
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> if I go into ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak
[07:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about upgradd
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgradd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> And hit list it shows them there in blue
[07:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about upgrade
[07:47] <shriphani> !cdburning
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdburning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <shriphani> !cd
[07:47] <ShadeT> shriphani, gnomebaker is pretty good, and nautilus has its own for cd image files.
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, of course you can. The error you seem to be getting says that bash cannot recognize the file/path you are typing in.
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's there man!
[07:47] <shriphani> ShadeT, not one i burnt works right
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> haha
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> it shows the file names in blue!
[07:47] <shriphani> and i did check the md5sum
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> But I can't get into them!
[07:48] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, blue ?
[07:48] <shriphani> blue is for the dirs
[07:48] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, what is the command you are typing in?
[07:48] <shriphani> ShadeT, which is the best app for this ?
[07:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> cd
[07:48] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, You may need to edit ~/.xine/config or ~/.gnome2/totem_config
[07:48] <hanasaki> where is the ubuntu package for xen?
[07:49] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, cd is change directory
[07:49] <hanasaki> !find xen
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: gtk-engines-xenophilia, libexene-smlnj, libjaxen-java, libroxen-123session, libroxen-adbanner (and 81 others)
[07:49] <shriphani> srinivas ?
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Don't I want to change to the directory to list them, in order to use lame?
[07:49] <sri999> hi freinds im new to LINUX
[07:49] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, so you type in "cd ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/"?
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think I still need to do alot of research. Haha
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah
[07:49] <sri999> could anybody pls guide me
[07:50] <shriphani> sri999, with ?
[07:50] <Geoffrey2> I think originally I'd fixed it by installing 915resolution, since apparently there were problems with the Intel 915 graphics chip, but that doesn't seem to be solving the problem this time
[07:50] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, and it says that it cannot find "The"?
[07:50] <sri999> just loaded ubuntu 5.05 on my PC
[07:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yes
[07:50] <Madpilot> sri999, you'll get better help if you ask more specific questions...
[07:50] <ShadeT> shriphani, I usually use those two.  What type of image are you attempting to burn and what is wrong with the cd afterwards?
[07:50] <Lam_> how do i uninstall a package that i installed using dpkg
[07:50] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, since there is no "The" in that command, I think you may be confused about what you are typing in.
[07:50] <shriphani> ShadeT, the first cd i burnt didnt boot
[07:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> So what should I put in?
[07:51] <sri999> i want to play audio files in lunux
[07:51] <shriphani> sri999, format ?
[07:51] <sri999> real format audio files