[00:09] <linux_> does Elementary based on ubuntu 16.4 guys ?
[00:10] <kostkon> !elementary
[00:13] <linux_> ty
[00:23] <amitprakash> !Gentoo
[00:28] <linux_> !Deepin
[00:29] <linux_> hmmm
[00:29] <lucyfx>  so, I have a question. how come I can delete a file that I don't have any permissions on, then empty the trash, using the nautilus explorer?
[00:33] <OerHeks> lucyfx, start nautilus from terminal with sudo, or install nautilus-actions nautilus-admin to open the file with proper permission
[00:34] <OerHeks> and find out why you don't have permission...
[00:38] <NoCode> While booting in Budgie with lowlatency kernel. I get to the login screen, try to log in, it cycles bringing be back to login. I did a dmesg in a virtual console, here's the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/0AA4gX8n
[00:40] <NoCode> I'm using 16.04
[00:40] <NoCode> Also, please update the supported lowlatency kernels.
[00:40] <nacc> NoCode: who are you asking to update what?
[00:41] <nacc> NoCode: it's the nvidia driver, presumably, not the lowlatency kernel
[00:41] <NoCode> nacc: Well, the people who are responsible for kernels in the Ubuntu repositories.
[00:42] <NoCode> nacc: Would a reinstall of the driver work?
[00:42] <nacc> NoCode: what do you mean by update? the issue is with the nvidia driver that you are using
[00:42] <nacc> NoCode: afaict
[00:42] <nacc> NoCode: and, if i had to guess, has to do with the spectre / meltdown fixes
[00:43] <nacc> (retpoline is the in-kernel fix)
[00:43] <NoCode> A year ago I had issues with my 16.04 install where the driver would update and it'd skew but not to do the same thing as it is doing now. So I'd reinstall the nvidia driver after a driver update and everything would be well again.
[00:44] <NoCode> nacc: On my part, what should I do? Wait for an update for nvidia driver?
[00:44] <nacc> NoCode: where are you getting the nvidia driver from?
[00:45] <NoCode> Let me look at the repo list, it could be from a PPA. I think it might be.
[00:46] <nacc> NoCode: PPAs are not officially supported and much more liable to break; presuambly the PPA owner needs to do a rebuild of their drivers to match the newer kernel in all releases. The official Ubuntu packages should work
[00:53] <NoCode> nacc: Okay, I don't have any PPAs for the nvidia drivers. Usually I do...
[00:56] <NoCode> nacc: Sorry that took a while I usually don't really cat/grep files so I had to how to "cat /etc/apt/sources.lost | grep 'nvidia'
[00:56] <NoCode> "
[00:56] <NoCode> s/lost/list/
[00:57] <kostkon> NoCode, look for it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:58] <NoCode> kostkon: it suggests that it's a directory.
[00:58] <kostkon> NoCode, yep
[00:59] <NoCode> Nothing about nvidia in there, no
[00:59] <kostkon> NoCode, ok
[01:01] <NoCode> The nvidia driver is also loaded in generic kernel. glxinfo is suggesting it is loaded. So I dunno what's going on with the other kernel. :(
[01:02] <skiboy> I just got an thinkpad x250 trackpad to replace the crappy one on the x240.  THe 3 buttons mouse buttons don't seem to be working, but the trackpad itself is.  Running Ubuntu 17.10.  Has anyone else had this issue?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> NoCode: "retpoline" .. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1750937 .
[01:24] <luxio> On 17.10 artful, my ~/.bash_profile isn't being sourced when I choose Xorg on the login screen.
[01:24] <luxio> Is this a known issue?
[01:24] <luxio> My PATH is only set when I'm running Wayland.
[01:26] <NoCode> Bashing-om: Seems I'll try doing this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1750937/comments/57
[01:26] <jkdr_> Ah, Ubuntu-specific question maybe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kQZVwySXDy/ (FAIL)  and http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F9ss6PPrRb/ (SUCCESS)  -   Both pastebins are from root `cd /var/log; tail -f * */* */*/*` and trimmed to remove unnecessary log data at beginning, including only log data from GDM desktop login attempts to Gnome desktop.  One machine it doesn't work, brings back to login prompt, and the other machine it does work.  Both machines have
[01:26] <jkdr_> entire / root filesystem rsynced with a server hosting the system files.  I am confused why one machine isn't able to login to desktop environment.
[01:32] <david__> Yo homies
[01:32] <david__> I'm a massive noob
[01:32] <WorldGenesis[v]> what's up o.o
[01:32] <david__> Is this thing on? *taps mic*
[01:33] <WorldGenesis[v]> what's your question? o.o
[01:33] <david__> I'm just learning linux for the first time. No question, I'm just having fun.
[01:33] <WorldGenesis[v]> oh nice
[01:34] <david__> Is this channel used for support frequently?
[01:34] <bazhang> david__, WorldGenesis[v] please take the offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic , thanks
[01:35] <Bashing-om> david__: This is the ubuntu support channel on irc .
[01:42] <dallas_> hello anyone home
[01:43] <bazhang> dallas_, yes, hello; ubuntu support issue?
[01:43] <rmunson> !hi|dallas_
[01:43] <rmunson> meh, hi. :)
[01:50] <dallas_> rmunson: hows it going im, new everything looks, weird but thanks for the reply
[01:51] <rmunson> Going great, as bazhang inquired, do you need some help? :)
[01:54] <dallas_> rmunson: yea I might need to feel around to get the hang of things. i dont really know were im at or what everything means.
[01:55] <rmunson> dallas_: We're here if you need us, 24/7!
[01:55] <dallas_> rmunson: ok thanks
[01:56] <bazhang> dallas_, you might want to take a look at the free downloadable ubuntu manual for a better lay of the land
[01:56] <bazhang> !manual | dallas_
[01:56] <rmunson> ^ +1
[01:58] <rmunson> I thought _I_ was the one lagging, it was him! lol
[02:02] <david__> Can you guys point me in the direction of a comprehensive linux guide? I've got a box running mate and a box running ubuntu 16.04.
[02:03] <bazhang> !rute | david__
[02:03] <bazhang> start with the tldp david__
[02:04] <bazhang> david__, while this is about ubuntu technical support, more generalized questions are best fielded in ##linux
[02:11] <luxio> I have a program on my dock, where can I find that program's location?
[02:11] <luxio> i.e. how do I do `which` on it, if it's not an actual command
[02:13] <crypticGator> I can't see my entire desktop. It extends past my monitor/TV to the left and right.
[02:13] <S1GM4> Super n00b question
[02:13] <S1GM4> I am trying to update something (letsencrypt) and I use too many flavors of L00nix to remember the exact command
[02:14] <S1GM4> sudo apt-get update letsencrypt is not help me :( update would want to update everything, correct?
[02:14] <S1GM4> Maybe I should just run that... it has been a second, but then I'm worried...does that just update my package lists?
[02:14] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install letsencrypt
[02:15] <tomreyn> 'update' just updates the information on what is available
[02:15] <S1GM4> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 286 not upgraded.
[02:15] <bazhang> S1GM4, is there a newer versioj available
[02:15] <S1GM4> Unhelpful :( lol but I think this is a letsencrypt problem, really
[02:15] <luxio> S1GM4: it's up to date in the repository you're using, then.
[02:15] <luxio> you can compile it yourself, if you'd like.
[02:16] <S1GM4> It will no longer grab certificates due to a known security issue recently that was supposedly fixed in certbot, but I guess not letsencrypt?
[02:16] <S1GM4> away to another channel I go :( haha
[02:16] <S1GM4> thanks m8s
[02:16] <crypticGator> I don't think he understood you luxio
[02:17] <luxio> vOv
[02:17] <S1GM4> I did :D
[02:18] <S1GM4> I also knew before hand that apt-get update would likely just update the packages available and updating that particular package was depend on if newer one was issue, and likely a newer one does exist that I must compile :(
[02:19] <S1GM4> This is a rather new security issue, but not entirely, about two months old (or less)
[02:19] <crypticGator> They may have another repository where you  can update from if you don't want to compile
[02:21] <S1GM4> I found a solution / workaround. Only problem is most workarounds are for certbot rather than letsencrypt, which is what I use on Ubuntu
[02:22] <crypticGator> sounds good
[02:22] <S1GM4> If anybody else ever has this issue in here with letsencrypt not grabbing a certificate because of the recent security problems, the solution is: sudo apache2ctl stop || sudo letsencrypt --authenticator standalone --installer apache -d your.domain
[02:23] <S1GM4> (and the httpd should restart)
[02:23] <crypticGator> anyone know how to shrink my screen ?
[02:24] <WorldGenesis[v]> o.o what's the best way of connecting to WPA networks via command-line?
[02:24] <S1GM4> You want to virtually shrink which screen for which purpose?
[02:25] <S1GM4> Sorry, I bourbon
[02:25] <S1GM4> brb
[02:29] <luxio> Is there a way to change the screenshot settings on 17.10?
[02:29] <luxio> I want to copy the screenshot to my clipboard, but not save a fil.e
[02:30] <luxio> Also, I want to change the shortcut for taking a screenshot.
[02:31] <bazhang> https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/ubuntu-server-16-04-wifi-wpa-supplicant WorldGenesis[v]
[02:32] <bazhang> luxio, using what, such as prtsrcn or other
[02:32] <luxio> the print screen key, which I think is default in GNOME for taking screenshots, right?
[02:33] <WorldGenesis[v]> bazhang: thanks :D
[02:33] <bazhang> luxio, there are many to do what you are asking for, did you have a particular one in mind
[02:33] <luxio> nope
[02:34] <luxio> whatever works
[02:34] <luxio> ideally something similar to Greenshot, since that's what I used to use on Windows.
[02:34] <bazhang> luxio, i'M Not clear if prtscrn has that, as it the most very basic, you might consider the many others that do
[02:35] <bazhang> alternative.to website luxio look for that app there
[02:36] <luxio> is there a way to change the key that's mapped to gnome-screenshot?
[02:36] <bazhang> also apt-cache search screenshot luxio to see what the ubuntu repos have
[02:37] <bazhang> luxio, have you tried anything so far
[02:37] <luxio> yeah I found the setting in Keyboard
[02:38] <bazhang> luxio, do you mean the key 'prtscrn'
[02:39] <luxio> yes
[02:39] <bazhang> thats not a setting
[02:39] <luxio> it definitely is because I just changed it
[02:39] <bazhang> luxio, and it works?
[02:39] <luxio> yes
[02:39] <bazhang> super
[02:40] <luxio> https://i.imgur.com/Efqt12D.png
[02:41] <bazhang> https://askubuntu.com/questions/343444/gnome-screenshot-copy-to-clipboard-shortcut luxio
[02:46] <OerHeks> 17.10 has already ctrl alt printscreen to copiy to clipboard
[02:47] <luxio> yeah I changed it to Ctrl PrintScreen for region to clipboard and PrintScreen for clipboard because I prefer that
[03:27] <freakyy> hi all. is it possible to have a vpn server on ubuntu server which tunnels all network traffic from and toa client over the itnernet?
[03:46] <illuminated> freakyy: you might try softether.  i've not tried it before, but it's supposed to be a layer2 vpn
[04:07] <luxio> When VLC is fullscreen on Wayland and I start pausing/seeking, there's extreme lag and the system just goes to a complete halt
[04:07] <luxio> is this a known issue?
[04:07] <luxio> this is what I found, but it's marked "solved". https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1720901
[04:19] <OerHeks> luxio, you might want to try vlc 3.x .. snap install vlc > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/02/vlc-3-0-released-easy-install-ubuntu/
[04:19] <OerHeks> i prever gnome-mpv
[05:28] <fareast> why is my kubuntu clipboard storing contents of what i type into firefox search?
[05:29] <fareast> it doesn't show right away but after a few minutes
[05:29] <fareast> I think there is a hacker.
[05:36] <guiverc> fareast, maybe check your firefox extensions
[05:46] <garyserj> Is there any way to run an editor that stays in the command line and lets me move the cursor around the command line?  what I mean is that for example if you compare cat vs less.  cat will stay in the command line.  'less' will be its own program.
[05:47] <garyserj> i'm looking for an editor that, like cat, stays in that screen.
[05:48] <guiverc> garyserj, to edit commands?; most shells/terms already do that
[05:50] <guiverc> garyserj, or do you mean like apple2 (sorry only example I can think of), where you could go up screen & edit a prior command on your display
[05:52] <garyserj> I haven't used apple2
[05:52] <garyserj> guiverc: not like cat>a.a  but without replacing the entire file
[05:52] <garyserj> not=no
[05:52] <garyserj> So like cat >a.a but without replacing the entire file
[05:53] <guiverc> you can append with >>
[05:53] <garyserj> By the way, on a related note.. If you do cat>a.a and use your arrow keys, does it work or does it display ^[[A ?
[05:54] <garyserj> guiverc: i'm not talking about appending
[05:54] <garyserj> i'm talking about writing anywhere in the file
[05:54] <guiverc> garyserj, try it and see.  i'd expect it to vary on settings (term type etc)
[05:55] <garyserj> i'm accessing ubuntu via ssh and it doesn't work for me but that's through ssh i'd like to know from somebody using it directly.
[05:55] <guiverc> i would just use an editor (vim is my favorite, but use whatever suits your tastes)
[05:56] <garyserj> guiverc: you're totally avoiding my question
[05:56] <garyserj> i'm well aware of editors
[05:56] <guiverc> i can't think of any reason to edit a file without editor (outside of database; then i'd use tools anyway, not want to do it at term)
[05:56] <garyserj> you can call it an editor if you want but i'm talking about one that doesn't start a new screen
[05:56] <guiverc> are you are of sed|awk...
[05:57] <garyserj> yes
[05:57] <guiverc> sorry I can't help - i don't understand how you want to use it
[05:57] <garyserj> i'm looking for an editor like cat>a.a but that doesn't replace the entire file but that lets me write anywhere within the file.
[05:57] <garyserj> guiverc: do you understand the question or not?
[05:57] <garyserj> doesn't matter whether you like the idea
[05:58] <garyserj> and i'm not saying I NEED it and can't do without it. Just that i'd like it.
[06:03] <pikapika> Hi
[06:03] <pikapika> About the strange file system issue I was having...
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: yes?
[06:05] <pikapika> Its a long message, please wait a little while I am typing it.
[06:14] <madmangun> pm pika
[06:15] <garyserj> Can anybody running ubuntu directly (not via ssh), tell me whether their arrow keys work when they do cat>a.a  ?
[06:16] <EriC^^> i dont think they would garyserj
[06:16] <EriC^^> yeah, they don't they're giving some terminal codes ^[[C^[[D^[[B^[[D^[[A^[[C^[[B^[[D^[[A^[[D^C
[06:17] <garyserj> EriC^^: and you're running that directly?
[06:17] <EriC^^> garyserj: you could use "nano" instead if you want a text editor
[06:17] <EriC^^> yes
[06:17] <garyserj> the funny thing is that in windows using cygwin, cat>a.a the arrow keys work!
[06:17] <madmangun> depends on the ssh client and os
[06:18] <garyserj> madmangun: I said without SSH!
[06:18] <garyserj> And I said Ubuntu
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> garyserj: no reason to take that tone
[06:18] <EriC^^> garyserj: maybe that cat is written differently?
[06:18] <garyserj> lotuspsychje: please don't read tone into things you see online
[06:18] <garyserj> EriC^^: perhaps, I don't know.
[06:19] <EriC^^> maybe it's a terminal thing who knows
[06:19] <garyserj> i think that's more likely.  in windows they don't really call that thing a terminal.
[06:19] <garyserj> afaik.
[06:19] <madmangun> https://askubuntu.com/questions/325807/arrow-keys-tab-complete-not-working
[06:19] <pikapika> Turns out its funnier than I thought, and also not fstab, etc's fault. Remember this used to be a dual boot system? How I converted it into a pure Ubuntu is: 1) I ran gparted from a live Ubuntu. Appears the old partition was part of a logical partition set. So I cant expand it directly. 2) I deleted the Windows os and boot paritions. Old Linux was a ~ 45 gb parition with a swap of 4 gb. 3) Ctrl C Ctrl V  the main Linux parition to the newly created
[06:19] <pikapika> ~100gb space. The starting point was auto set at 1 mb, I decided not to mess with it, figuring the 1 mb was being used by the grub. Then I shutdown system. 3) Boot into normal disk Ubuntu. Since grub is untouched, this is the old Ubuntu. Type sudo grub-update or whatever that command was...I dont remember exactly. Then rebooted. GRUB menu now no longer has Windows option. Type df -h, yes Linux is mounted at 100 gb partition.  Now it appears what was happening was that I was alternately or ever 3rd time or whatever booting into the wrong partition. Remember that message I said was showing up sometimes during booting. I paid more attention to it right now, and noticed it was "A start job is running for dev-disk [further text]". Put this string into google, multiple threads mostly pointing to something about two swap paritions. I find
[06:20] <pikapika> this strange, I open up gparted and scratch head for a while. /dev/sda8 also seems like a strange number for swap, I dont think I even had swap in this installation. Suddenly a lightbulb lights in my head. I open df -h and see / is 45.5 gb. So this is my old parition...the one that has my updated current data including new theme, wallpaper, etc. Lol. Even gparted is showing the 100gb as inactive.. So the 100 gb had older data and because I was updating
[06:20] <pikapika> fstab on each boot thinking it was an error, both fstab have /mnt/e and /mnt/f. Except of course the Linux partition itself is "wrong" lol.
[06:20] <EriC^^> O.O
[06:20] <madmangun> please tell me that wasn't my fault?
[06:21] <madmangun> timing?
[06:21] <garyserj> EriC^^: do you think what madmangun linked to has anything to do with you finding that you get those terminal codes?
[06:21] <garyserj> https://askubuntu.com/questions/325807/arrow-keys-tab-complete-not-working
[06:21] <garyserj> was what he linked to
[06:22] <madmangun> If that's an issue i'll tinyurl anything else geez
[06:22] <garyserj> No dude
[06:22] <garyserj> it is a spammer
[06:22] <madmangun> ok
[06:22] <garyserj> and you are simply letting a troll provoke you into talking about them
[06:22] <madmangun> great, trolled got it
[06:23] <pikapika> I am creating a hastebin of my question to ease reading...
[06:27] <EriC^^> garyserj: sort of those are for the shell, i'm thinking cat might be written differently in windows
[06:28] <garyserj> https://askubuntu.com/questions/896516/arrow-keys-with-cat-read
[06:28] <garyserj> looks like cat might not support it at least not in ubuntu
[06:30] <Random832> basic line editing is built into the "terminal" on windows, rather than being part of each command
[06:37] <pikapika> https://hastebin.com/utuwoyuyaq.sql
[06:38] <pikapika> lotuspsychje
[06:38] <pikapika> Oh I am sorry for filling the channel with the long question. I am a bit new to these things.
[06:38] <pikapika> Thus I now have it on paste
[06:42] <pikapika> I see I was being accused of being troll, that is incorrect this is a legitimate question I am having.
[06:44] <pikapika> tldr; I didnt delete the old Linux parition when I nuked Windows, grub now alternately boots into new and old partions
[06:54] <guiverc> pikapika, i only see a single swap in your fdisk -l
[06:55] <pikapika> Is a swap needed to be a separate partition?
[06:55] <pikapika> I guess both installations were trying to use same swap thats why it was having problems?
[06:56] <pikapika> I can delete and recreate swap. Current parition will be nuked anyways
[06:56] <guiverc> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:56] <pikapika> 16.04 lts
[06:56] <pikapika> I see
[06:56] <pikapika> Yes of course, I didnt create any new swap did I? I didnt.
[06:56] <guiverc> swap on 16.04 should be separate partition by default
[06:57] <pikapika> I know, and I didnt create new swap, so I think both installations are using the same one
[06:57] <guiverc> ubuntu will use a linux.swap if detected (and not disabled)
[06:57] <pikapika> The 100 gb one was created by copying this parition in the space created by deleting Windows
[06:58] <guiverc> if you look in your /etc/fstab you'll see your filesystem table, or drives matched, most likely with an entry for swap (created on install probably)
[06:58] <guiverc> :s/drives matches/drives mounted/
[06:58] <pikapika> Yup it points to the sda8 uuid
[06:59] <pikapika> You gave me an idea
[07:00] <guiverc> i find it hard to imagine why subsequent boots would alter which partition would boot, unless you have grub installed on a thumb-drive-key (or other) and sometimes have it installed (which has a different grub)
[07:00] <guiverc> is your machine eufi or legacy (bios device boots mbr)
[07:01]  * guiverc should have said /have it install/have it inserted/ on last
[07:02] <bahamut24> I'm guessing the fact that archive.ubuntu.com not having a package for apache 2.4.25 probably means I shouldn't try and install it..
[07:03] <snickers> please help, i was testing out anonym8 on my ubuntu  17.10 stoped the script and now can get normal wired or wifi working
[07:03] <snickers> is there a place i can view what most config files look like default on norm 17.10 install
[07:03] <snickers> think it has to do with dns from what i have googled
[07:06] <snickers> typo cant get any network wifi wired working
[07:07] <luka_33> Erm is there anything running?  Check via top/htop
[07:07] <luka_33> Stop anything remotely networky
[07:08] <guiverc> snickers, if it's DNS you'll be able to ping your router (ping <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever it is), ping your isp (ping <IP_ADDRESS> where its isp's address in numbers), ping <IP_ADDRESS> (oogle dns), but not `ping google.com` (or anything with human names)
[07:09] <snickers> cant ping google or any sites will try router and report back will be a while running off live usb atm going to setup two so can do this easier thank you both
[07:10] <snickers> (two laptop and ubuntu that doesnt work atm)
[07:11] <guiverc> okay if its DNS; a quick fix is to add an entry to /etc/resolv.conf with `nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>` as a line (letting it use oogle's DNS)
[07:11] <guiverc> ps: editing that file will get overwritten by boot; its a temporary quick fix only.
[07:15] <guiverc> luka_33, were you speaking to snickers; if so I'm sorry
[07:15] <pikapika> I did, and the fstab in the 100 gb one also points to same uuid for swap
[07:16] <pikapika> Also, I think I found the exact cause of the problem!
[07:16] <pikapika> I was browing the 100gb partition that I've now temporarily mounted
[07:17] <pikapika> From my own partition, I was reading the grub.cfg. I noticed a long uuid at the top of the file. I did blkid to check. Then it dawned on me. Both /sda1 (100gb Linux) and /sda7 (current Linux) have the same uuid!
[07:18] <pikapika> I guess this is because of directly copying in gparted
[07:18] <Zythyr> Need help with getting a service to start after mounting a partition. My server's /home partition is encrypted using DMCrypt (cryptsetup LUKS). After reboot, I manually unlock the partition by by SSHing into the server and using the command "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 data". The moment I unlocked the partition, the /home partition is automatically mounted and I don't have to manually
[07:18] <Zythyr> mount it. I have a service (Seafile server) that is suppose to start automatically after boot, however it can't start because the .sh file of the service is in the /home partition. How do I get this service to autoatmically start once I manually unlocked the /home partition
[07:18] <pikapika> So I think it was booting from whichever partition matching the uuid randomly encountered first?
[07:19] <pikapika> So if I am not wrong...a temporary fix would be to, post copying this parition again to 100 gb (so as to not lose new theme, software installations, etc). I can just changed the uuid of the 50 gb partition to something else?
[07:19] <pikapika> I am checking to see whether grub.cfg's are any different in either installation
[07:20] <pikapika> And why should it not?
[07:21] <pikapika> Of course the 100gb one has the older grub.cfg what with the Windows 10 menu entry and all
[07:21] <pikapika> So of course, now I have to (I think) chroot to it and run grub-update?
[07:21] <pikapika> guiverc is this correct?
[07:22] <guiverc> i have no idea what two partitions having the same UUID would do; it shouldn't occur.
[07:23] <guiverc> i would just change the UUID on one partition (the one you don't want), and I'd not use your system until that was done, ie. use a 'live' system to do it.
[07:24] <basalt> hi all, if i use the "update" UI i get always asked to disable secure boot. i did this some times ago, but after the disable the laptop went crazy, so i enabled it again. but now i get asked again, can i ignore updates which require secure boot disableling?
[07:24] <guiverc> yep change one (the one you won't use), sorry was behind as out feeding birds..
[07:24] <pikapika> Yes, but I think I have a clear understanding of the situation now
[07:25] <Guest29818> speak chinese
[07:25] <pikapika> I will write it out for clarity and post a paste
[07:25] <Guest29818> 卡哇伊
[07:25] <Guest29818> 有没有人讲中文
[07:25] <Ben64> !cn | Guest29818
[07:25] <outoftime_92> I had black screen and compiz consuming 100% cpu, after restarting lightgdm I have following dmesg http://termbin.com/wzu7i what could be the problem?
[07:26] <Guest29818> thanks  guy
[07:26] <guiverc> pikapika, i wouldn't bother, my suggestion is to reboot into a live & change uuid of your less important partition there, you would probably be safe to do it without rebooting-into-live, but you are in a condition I don't know effects on.
[07:26] <pikapika> yes but as mentioned, this one has the newer data so I will copy it first
[07:26] <pikapika> with live cd
[07:27] <guiverc> pikapika, you see in control of it; come back if you have other issues..
[07:28] <guiverc> you seem in control of it (sorry lotsa typos today)
[07:28] <pikapika> Yep, now going to copy partition
[07:28] <pikapika> Will be back reporting progress after I am done
[07:30] <Snickers> hi im back was able to ping my router no problem but am not able to get internet access any suggestions just a heads up i have made some changes to config files myself running 17.10
[07:31] <guiverc> when pinging external links; were you using numbers or names (dns means names won't work, but real addresses (numbers) will)
[07:32] <Snickers> this is what i installed https://github.com/HiroshiManRise/anonym8
[07:32] <Snickers> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:32] <Snickers> was my routers addy got a time and response
[07:33] <guiverc> <IP_ADDRESS> is internal; what were you pinging external (numbers eg. <IP_ADDRESS> or google.com)
[07:33] <Snickers> sorry when addresses from browser it was human readable not ip addresses in numbers
[07:33] <Snickers> and from terminal
[07:34] <Snickers> got to open up fullscreen just a moment need to read properly
[07:35] <guiverc> i'd have done it from terminal, but numbers are need to confirm its DNS. (domain name service)..  <IP_ADDRESS> is easy to remember, and oogle's dns address; if you can ping it your networking is fine (as you can reach oogle), but if pinging google.com fails then its DNS that's faulty
[07:37] <Snickers> just pinged google dns server and i am getting good responses and no loss of packets (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:37] <guiverc> which confirms that you reasoning was correct; dns isn't working (it can't convert an address to its real number)
[07:38] <guiverc> the quick fix i mentioned is adding the line `nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>` to /etc/resolv.conf ; which just tacks on the use of oogle's dns to whatever is used (if any)
[07:38] <guiverc> its quick, but temporary (rebooting will overwrite, as will certain service restarts etc)
[07:39] <Snickers> okay will try that now also to menton while im away from this screen my network manager wont connect (daemon normally goes green) for wired or wifi
[07:40] <guiverc> how i'd fix depends on what setup you had. i'm assuming you use network manager (you just confirmed), the settings of which you should be able to alter with a icon top right on your screen
[07:45] <guiverc> Snickers, 'network connections' in unity's menu (default ubuntu 16.04) is where i would look, looking for strange settings in IPv4/IPv6 settings (but this is guess only on what the program did)
[07:46] <Snickers> got probs cant fix that as told cant resolve hostname
[07:46] <Snickers> the file wont let me edit it at present cant nav up down or anythin
[07:48] <guiverc> Snickers, i'm sorry i don't follow your last; you'll need sudo to edit resolv.conf
[07:49] <Snickers> i ran the sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf and output was 'can resolve hostname nojimon(my username)
[07:50] <guiverc> ok. its possibly done something different to my guess. have you rebooted since ^C, or at least logged out & back in since?
[07:51] <Snickers> then the file opened but nothing could be edited nor could i navigate the nano page (up,down,left,right) was so weird
[07:51] <Snickers> sorry cant typo
[07:52] <Snickers> i have numerous will do it again now never know just a sec
[07:52] <guiverc> if you've done it once, again likely won't help - don't bother
[07:52] <ducasse> Snickers: is the local hostname the same in both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts?
[07:52] <ducasse> !hostname
[07:54] <Snickers> exact output was 'sudo: unable to resolve hot ojimon: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:54] <Snickers> am currently waiting for boot
[07:55] <Snickers> hot=host
[07:55] <Snickers> ojimon-nojimon(my username)
[07:56] <ducasse> what's the hostname?
[07:56] <Snickers> not making typo like this on termial other machine fyi this a laptop and i suck with touchpads in my way lol
[07:57] <Snickers> nojimon or noj
[07:58] <Snickers> its just a home client single machine
[07:58] <Snickers> nothin else to network
[07:59] <Snickers> defaults assigned nojimon is username ubuntu 17.10 (im a noob so dont know how to answer that sorry)
[07:59] <ducasse> still, make sure the hostname is the same in those two files
[08:00] <Snickers> can you remind me of the two locations please
[08:00] <Flannel> !hostname | Snickers
[08:03] <Snickers> so from terminal exact syntax is 'hostname nojimon'  then try command above this last instruction?
[08:04] <Snickers> all gud
[08:05] <ducasse> when that is fixed sudo should work without errors
[08:07] <Snickers> hey i just ran cat /etc/hostname output was ubuntu
[08:07] <Snickers> does that mean my current hostname is ubuntu
[08:08] <ducasse> try the command 'hostname'
[08:12] <Snickers> re this suggestion (1)nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>` to /etc/resolv.conf ) do i delete what there already (nameserver)
[08:14] <ducasse> if dns is currently broken, you might as well
[08:15] <guiverc> (sorry away with birds again), doesn't matter. it tries first on list; if it fails it'll try second..  i'd be tempted to `whois <IP_ADDRESS>` or first one to see who it belongs to, your isp or modified by ..)
[08:20] <Snickers> so in theory making that change and restarting networkManager will allow me to surf but NetworkManger Daemon still looks sick and i cant surf
[08:21] <ducasse> Snickers: if you restart networking services it will just get overwritten again
[08:21] <ikonia> "looks sick"
[08:21] <ikonia> you'll get a lot better information if you give factual information rather than human descriptions of problem
[08:21] <Snickers> the daemon turns green when i am able to  connect
[08:22] <ikonia> do you currently have any working DNS?
[08:22] <ikonia> at all
[08:22] <Snickers> noted
[08:22] <pikapika> Yes
[08:22] <pikapika> It seems to be working for now
[08:22] <pikapika> Also
[08:22] <Snickers> i dont know how to check please help me work that out
[08:23] <Snickers> (i seriously doubt it but am guessing)
[08:23] <Zythyr> Need help with getting a service to start after mounting a partition. My server's /home partition is encrypted using DMCrypt (cryptsetup LUKS). After reboot, I manually unlock the partition by by SSHing into the server and using the command "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 data". The moment I unlocked the partition, the /home partition is automatically mounted and I don't have to manually
[08:23] <Zythyr> mount it. I have a service (Seafile server) that is suppose to start automatically after boot, however it can't start because the .sh file of the service is in the /home partition. How do I get this service to autoatmically start once I manually unlocked the /home partition
[08:23] <ikonia> Snickers: you said earlier you can ping your router, is that still true ?
[08:23] <pikapika> I noticed that grub actually had two entries, one an Ubuntu without any further information...another something like Ubuntu 16.04 on /dev/sda1
[08:23] <Snickers> yes i can
[08:23] <ikonia> Snickers: ok, can you "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[08:23] <Snickers> i can also ping google dns address 8.8.88
[08:24] <Snickers> yes
[08:24] <pikapika> I tried rebooting a few times before the live cd operations. Since my grub and fstab both are based on uuids either option randomly selected whichever Ubuntu it felt like
[08:24] <ikonia> ok, so you have internet connection and your routing fine
[08:24] <pikapika> So just to make sure, in the live cd after copying partition I changed the uuid of sda7
[08:25] <Snickers> if those answers i gave confirm that then yes
[08:25] <ikonia> Snickers: what do you get if you do "nmcli dev show | grep DNS" in a terminal
[08:28] <Snickers> two address's one for ipv4 one for ipv6 do you want them verbatim in pm
[08:28] <ikonia> is it just two lines ?
[08:28] <Snickers> yes
[08:28] <ikonia> just paste them in the channel please
[08:29] <Snickers> just the addresses or the whole line
[08:29] <ikonia> just the addresses
[08:30] <Snickers> <IP_ADDRESS> fe80::e2b9:
[08:30] <Snickers> hang on
[08:30] <ikonia> that will do
[08:30] <ikonia> so is your route <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:31] <Snickers> fe80:e2b9:e5fffeb3:ea44
[08:31] <Snickers> yeah
[08:31] <ikonia> Snickers: so if you do, nslookup www.google.com do you get a response
[08:32] <Snickers> connection timed out
[08:32] <Snickers> no
[08:32] <Snickers> no servers could be reached
[08:32] <ikonia> ok, do "nslookup" (on it's own) then "server <IP_ADDRESS>" then "www.google.com"
[08:33] <ikonia> do you get a response then or still timed out
[08:33] <Snickers> no response
[08:33] <ikonia> ok, so now do "nslookup" (on its own) then "server <IP_ADDRESS>", then "www.google.com"
[08:33] <ikonia> does that work
[08:35] <obonto> hi all.who can i talk to regarding a bug that is: log files growing very fast
[08:36] <ikonia> obonto: is it a bug or a problem you have
[08:36] <obonto> someone says its a bug.
[08:36] <ikonia> what is "your" problem
[08:37] <obonto> log file is eating up my HDD
[08:37] <ikonia> what log file
[08:38] <liptan> Hay Hi who's there
[08:38] <obonto> computer/var/log
[08:38] <ikonia> obonto: that's a directory
[08:38] <ikonia> obonto: what log FILE is giving you the problem
[08:39] <obonto> yes.i mean the contents of it grows fast
[08:39] <ikonia> what files
[08:39] <ikonia> obonto: how big is your /var partition
[08:39] <obonto> var > log >syslog
[08:39] <ikonia> obonto: ok, so the syslog is growing quickly
[08:39] <ikonia> obonto: what is the current file size ?
[08:40] <GuiToris> hello, is there a command which create default folders (Templates, Docs, Downloads) for new users?
[08:40] <obonto> before it was 22gb
[08:40] <obonto> i already deleted the contents
[08:40] <ikonia> GuiToris: when a new user logs into the desktop it gets created
[08:40] <obonto> but it will go back again when i try to use the usb+wifi
[08:40] <ikonia> obonto: ok, how long did it take (roughly) to get to 22gb ?
[08:41] <obonto> 22gb in less than 8hrs
[08:41] <ikonia> obonto: ok - so that isn't a "bug" I suspect you have a problem on your machine, and the problem is constantly being logged, (that's a LOT of data)
[08:41] <GuiToris> ikonia, oh, if it's not going to happen, should I create them manually?
[08:41] <ikonia> so I believe ubuntu is "fine" in that it's logging your problem as it should
[08:41] <ikonia> GuiToris: those are desktop directories, if you're not using the desktop why would you want them
[08:42] <akik> GuiToris: xdg-user-dirs-update
[08:42] <pikapika> I am thinking
[08:42] <GuiToris> thanks akik
[08:42] <ikonia> obonto: you need to look at the lines (with help from people) to see what your problem is
[08:42] <obonto> hmm.may i ask a suggestion or a remedy?
[08:42] <GuiToris> ikonia, we reach it via ssh
[08:42] <ikonia> obonto: so if you know how to make it grow quickly, do it for a short period of time,
[08:42] <ikonia> GuiToris: right, but those folders are for desktop use, so if you're not using the desktop why do you need them
[08:43] <ikonia> obonto: then get a snippet (say 50 lines) from the bottom of the log and put it in pastebin.ubuntu.com then share the link here and ask for help
[08:43] <obonto> i think i had a copy of the log.before the deletion
[08:43] <snickers> sorry got disconnected battery
[08:43] <ikonia> snickers: sorry, I need to step away for 20 minutes
[08:44] <snickers> k ill be here
[08:44] <ikonia> snickers: I think we see the problem though, your router is not acting as a DNS server / forwarding you to valid DNS servers
[08:44] <snickers> so reset it with a pin
[08:44] <pikapika> Should this information about the UUID duplication (and consequently ambiguity in booting) be added to the HowToRemoveWindows wiki article?
[08:45] <snickers> fyi anyone that want to take over router is working for other computer laptop
[08:46] <obonto> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WYtW9KbpkS/
[08:46] <snickers> and when i boot a live version of ubuntu from usb works
[08:47] <obonto> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WYtW9KbpkS/   -- pls help me interpret the logfile
[08:48] <ducasse> obonto: you need to pastebin more than that, 50-100 lines or so
[08:48] <obonto> i see.
[08:48] <obonto> brb
[09:11] <ml-box> hey there...i wanna ask about the installation of nvidia graphics in my virtua ubuntu ?
[09:25] <Tarix> May I ask a question about a conda base activation error "CommandNotFoundError" that I got in one ubuntu installation, but not in another one?
[09:29] <quint> NetworkManager seems to think I want two global ipv6 addresses with the same prefix while in a SLAAC configuration
[09:31] <quint> One seems to be the corrent eui64 obtained from the devices mac address, and the other seems arbitrary, but short.
[09:31] <quint> ::9a7
[09:33] <quint> All outgoing traffic from the device goes through the ::9a7 address
[09:34] <Tarix> What's the proper way to uninstall something like conda under ubuntu?
[09:34] <ikonia> Tarix: how did you install it
[09:34] <Tarix> pip uninstall gives a warning
[09:34] <ikonia> Tarix: there you go then
[09:34] <ikonia> you've used the pip package manager, so the people who build the pip package (nothing to do with ubuntu) can help you undo it
[09:34] <Tarix> i ran the official installation .sh script
[09:34] <ikonia> Tarix: ok, so the official support guys should be able to help you
[09:35] <Tarix> it's kind of convenient that this stuff all ends up under "software" to uninstall in windows. was just curious if this exists in ubuntu, but i guess it's more fractured.
[09:35] <ikonia> Tarix: no
[09:35] <ikonia> Tarix: if you use a package it is easy to uninstall
[09:36] <ikonia> Tarix: you ran a shell script
[09:37] <quint> Tarix: there could have been anything in that shell script. just ask whoever wrote it how to undo it. This is exactly why we have packages
[09:37] <Tarix> As there is no uninstall guide on the official page, but only an install guide, I guess people just flatten their ubuntu every now and then or use docker variations
[09:37] <ikonia> Tarix: nope
[09:37] <vlt> Tarix: The package managemant system Ubuntu uses is great for (un-)installing packages. If you mess with it, using pip outside of a virtualenv or by running shell scripts, you can't use its benefits anymore.
[09:38] <ikonia> Tarix: people tend to not use random shell scripts and depend on correctly packaged software
[09:38] <piraye> hello all!
[09:40] <bazhang> Tarix, if this is miniconda conda, their home page has a very clear guide on removing it
[09:40] <Tarix> ah, thank you, then I'm likely just blind, i googled and clicked through the manual
[09:41] <bazhang> Tarix, so consult that to take care of it, as it's third party and not supported here
[09:41] <bazhang> welcome
[09:41] <piraye> I had download one application  and now i delete it complete.... and install it again how can i do it? can any one point me please
[09:41] <Tarix> but you dont mean cuda -uninstall do you?
[09:42] <piraye> because i try more then one way to delete but still there
[09:42] <Tarix> if you could point me to the guide you mean that would be very kind
[09:43] <vlt> piraye: Was one of he ways you tried `sudo apt remove <package>`?
[09:43] <vlt> *the
[09:44] <piraye> this it will remove it completely
[09:46] <obonto> hello all.pls help me interpret this --   https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/qhMvdfMdhz/
[09:50] <obonto> anyone?
[09:50] <CoJaBo> bad wifi drivers?
[09:50] <vlt> piraye: Is this a yes or a no?
[09:51] <obonto> hmm.i tried using the propriety drivers,using the wrapper something
[09:53] <obonto> but even after updating to propriety drivers,the wifi driver remain the same after 2x checking it
[09:57] <bazhang> obonto, was that ndiswrapper
[09:58] <obonto> i used this guide http://techie-buzz.com/foss/wifi-on-ubuntu-installing-atheros-drivers.html
[09:58] <obonto> @bazhang yes
[10:05] <CyberZaZa> hi
[10:45] <obonto> anyone?
[10:46] <bazhang> obonto, you used a third party guide to install it?
[10:46] <obonto> yes
[10:47] <bazhang> got any details obonto ?
[10:47] <obonto> details of?
[10:47] <obonto> i used this --  http://techie-buzz.com/foss/wifi-on-ubuntu-installing-atheros-drivers.html
[10:48] <bazhang> obonto, what did it say, as far as the script or whatever wrapper to use when installing it
[10:48] <obonto> it was completed without errors
[10:48] <obonto> its just the log file here,it grows at the rate of 1gb in less than 15min
[10:49] <bazhang> obonto, whats the exact chipset on that
[10:49] <obonto> someone says its related to usb device
[10:49] <obonto> another 1 here said wifi drivers
[10:49] <bazhang> obonto, is it a usb or a pci device
[10:49] <obonto> usb wifi
[10:50] <bazhang> obonto, could you please pastbin the output of lsusb , not in the channel but to the pastebin and give us the url
[10:54] <obonto> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
[10:54] <snickers> hi everyone can somebody please help me get back online installed anonym8 now ran script stopped it cant get online since able to ping ip addresses (numbers) from terminal but not addresses from browser
[10:54] <snickers> m running 17.10
[10:55] <obonto> @bazhang is that info ok?
[10:55] <snickers> https://github.com/HiroshiManRise/anonym8
[10:57] <bazhang> https://askubuntu.com/questions/607830/how-to-install-tp-link-tl-wn722n-on-ubuntu obonto
[10:58] <bazhang> snickers, is there a readme on that github
[10:58] <snickers> yes
[10:58] <obonto> how can i undo the ndiswrapper installation?
[10:59] <snickers> no mention of how to fix issue i am facing though
[10:59] <snickers> just a description of what it does and how to run the script
[11:00] <bazhang> snickers, and which part of that script is giving errors
[11:01] <snickers> no part of the script gave errors but when i stopped running the script and reverted to normal setting(so i thought) i could no longer use browsers o  browse
[11:01] <snickers> my network manager also wont connect it just hangs
[11:02] <snickers> the daemon
[11:02] <bazhang> https://askubuntu.com/questions/949815/network-stop-working-after-install-anonym8 snickers
[11:02] <snickers> so does an external usb wifi usb (tried also)
[11:02] <snickers> wont connect just hangs
[11:03] <bazhang> snickers, have you read the link I just got you
[11:04] <snickers> pretty sure a few .conf files have been changed
[11:04] <bazhang> snickers, was that yes to following the steps on the link?
[11:04] <snickers> not sure what they should look like prior to being changed
[11:05] <snickers> yes i followed the steps in the read me if thats what you mean
[11:05] <bazhang> snickers, it's quite clearly laid out there
[11:05] <bazhang> https://askubuntu.com/questions/949815/network-stop-working-after-install-anonym8 this one snickers
[11:06] <bazhang> including the part about the firmware?
[11:06] <snickers> eg how to run it but if and when it wrecks your ability to connect after uninstallation nothing is mentioned
[11:06] <snickers> that is where i find myself
[11:07] <bazhang> snickers, are we talking about the same link
[11:07] <snickers> no longer having it installed and not running it and now having no way of connecting to internet through browser
[11:07] <snickers> the one i posted yeah
[11:07] <bazhang> snickers, the one I did
[11:08] <snickers> my bad
[11:08] <snickers> in my instance its a wired connection so what to do specific to my config
[11:09] <snickers> ifconfig get name of wired and insert in place of wlano
[11:09] <bazhang> snickers, which step are you on from the link I gave
[11:10] <snickers> have not started its on another pc but the 'sudo dhclient wlanX" is where im stuck
[11:10] <obonto> tnx bazshang.need to rest :(
[11:11] <snickers> do i replace wlanx with name of my wired name (ifconfig)
[11:12] <niee> hi folks :). anyone to help me please? how to find repeated text words in two text.txt
[11:12] <niee> search from text1.txt (inside have 10 words) to find in text2.txt (inside have 100 words)
[11:13] <CoJaBo> niee: if they're one per line, that should be pretty easy with grep
[11:14] <CoJaBo> How difficult is it to import an existing VM to an LXD container?
[11:15] <kasper3> is there a separate channel for apt / packaging talk?
 how do i download the files and put onto usb to take to other machine
how do i download the files and put onto usb to take to other machine, wget terminal copy and past
[11:16] <snickers> other machine is offline
[11:17] <kasper3> #ubuntu-packaging
[11:17] <niee> CoJaBo: yes. tnx for help, but not in one line. i type 10, but words is 1000 or more...
[11:18] <snickers> cmon man please
[11:23] <vlt> niee: A shell script using grep or a Python three liner should do it. What have you tried so far?
[11:26] <niee> ok vlt . tnx :) for now i tried to search one by one with grep.
 thank you for your help sorry for being tedious
[11:35] <snickers> online weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:36] <EriC^^> !ping
[11:37] <snickers> boing
[11:49] <ab_> 123
[11:54] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[11:55] <bonkano> Hi everybody, how solve /dev/sda7 clean xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx blocks from ubuntu 17.04.
[11:55] <bonkano> I can't access to my system
[11:56] <bonkano> I need help from you
[11:57] <habbasi> Hi people. Some perms on my server got messed up unexpectedly.
[11:57] <habbasi> Any idea how to fix them?
[12:00] <CoJaBo> ..how many, and where
[12:00] <CoJaBo> If the answer is "lots, and in /", the typical easy solution is to backup /home and reinstall <_<
[12:01] <CoJaBo> bonkano: That's not an error message, btw
[12:02] <Mowner> hey, im using i3 with ubuntu and im trying to cofing my brightness up and down keys (f5 and f6) however the keycodes and keysyms doesnt seem to be working. ie: when running xev some cryptic msg shows, tried google didnt work.
[12:03] <blb2156> google works here
[12:04] <Mowner> i mean my searches where futile
[12:04] <Mowner> couldnt find what the xev output meant
[12:04] <piraye> hi!
[12:04] <bonkano> Is there anybody to help me?
[12:05] <habbasi> I'll check backups. :/
[12:05] <habbasi> Probably because of NPM.
[12:05] <piraye> i have some applications in ubuntu and try uninstall is by "sudo apt remove <package>" but didn't uninstall.. is there any other can do it
[12:06] <habbasi> https://0bin.net/paste/3oKAPFbCG1FyEZW4#vR0i+uyiZooev6iAeKccV4dgTw1a6BXBg3QxH9Marl8
[12:06] <blb2156> :Mowner bindsym XF86MonBrightnessDown exec xbacklight -steps 1 -time 0 -dec 5
[12:06] <blb2156> Mowner: bindsym XF86MonBrightnessUp exec xbacklight -steps 1 -time 0 -inc 5
[12:07] <blb2156> at least these ^ worked for me
[12:07] <Mowner> :blb2156 xbacklight doesnt work, tried that command in terminal, I was able to do a script that changes the brightness value (root permisinon no one can wirte read bla bla) however when trying bindsym Xf86MonBrightnessUp exec scrpit '+' 10
[12:07] <Mowner> it doesnt do anything
[12:08] <Mowner> when running xev, and pressing fn+f6 it doesnt show Xf86... as it used to before
[12:09] <blb2156> Mowner: your skript could be started with an almost empty environment. Thats why x based apps do not works
[12:11] <blb2156> Mowner: you better just start a power manager app. It manages the keys too
[12:11] <Mowner> blb2156: im sorry, kind of a noob, what do you mean? i dont know if sound goes through X but i have a script for that as well and works fine. would xfce4 work?
[12:13] <blb2156> your script works just fine if you start it from a terminal window. It's because terminal has full environment. But if your script is started by some process the environment could be different
[12:14] <Mowner> aah I see, okey i guess ill do some reading... maybe changing the focus to a power manager. thanks
[12:22] <jonny_> hi
[12:27] <w1ko> hey guys
[12:31] <Boyette> hi
[12:31] <Space_Man> a recent 14.04 update has stopped sound and slowed down logins https://paste.debian.net/1014099/  any ideas?
[12:32] <Mowner> blb2156: hey I got xfce4 and it has an option to handle the brightness, however it doesnt seem to work, as is I am highly encouraged to quit technology and live in the woods
[12:33] <Sven_vB> I can use this command to ask aspell how many probably-wrong words there are in a file: <foo.txt aspell list --lang=en --ignore-case --dont-suggest | tr A-Z a-z | sort --unique | wc --lines; now how do I find the opposite? can I trust it uses the same definition of "word" as wc --words would?
[12:36] <Mowner> Sven_vB what is a word to you? can you create a small example to check if it works as you need to?
[12:36] <TJ-> Space_Man: Have you tried booting with an older/ the oldest kernel version ?
[12:37] <Sven_vB> Mowner, since ultimately I want to get or calculate the number of words that aspell considers unproblemativ, I'd prefer to use aspell's definition of "word", rather than choosing my own.
[12:37] <Sven_vB> *unproblematic
[12:37] <Saint_Philomena> Sorry about the question but... I'm try to change the dns and some configurations in networkd manager like dns and other stuff... but kubuntu dont allow me to save the options... if i make one new connection like openvpn it is ok but not with default wired connnection... someone know how can i resolve this...? i think I'm not the only one to have this problem https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/72529-Network-Manager-bug
[12:37] <Space_Man> TJ-: no, that's a good idea
[12:37]  * Space_Man rebooting
[12:39] <Mowner> Sven_vB, okey, then grab a file you want to use, make a copy and mispell all the words... as in if there is a leter add an x next to it
[12:39] <Mowner> or xy
[12:39] <Mowner> dont know many words ending with x, but im sure there are fewer ending with xy
[12:41] <Mowner> and then you know how many words aspell consider words, now you can use wc
[12:41] <TJ-> fax, lunchbox, chateaux, orthodix ..
[12:41] <TJ-> oops, typo :)
[12:41] <Mowner> check if they are the same, however, aspell must have a way to list them.
[12:43] <Mowner> jajaja thats why faxy, lunchboxy, chateauxy, i mean i know its not perfect, but seems to be an easy and fast approach, wouldnt recommend it if you are putting your job on the line though
[12:46] <TJ-> Saint_Philomena: are you making changes to Network Manager connections? if the GUI is a problem use 'nmtui' from the terminal
[12:51] <pavlushka> ldconfig results in "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libalpm.so.10 is not a symbolic link"
[12:53] <Mowner> Sven_vB what about clean, the documentation says 'cleans an input word list so that every line is a valid word.' so number of lines is number of valid words... maybe for big files this isnt optimal though
[12:53] <TJ-> pavlushka: what installed that library?
[12:53] <pavlushka> TJ-: kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <TJ-> pavlushka: which version? I don't see it in 16.04
[12:56] <pavlushka> TJ-: strange~ it is an Arch Linux Package Management library~
[12:57] <TJ-> ^ _
[12:57] <TJ-> @ @
[12:57] <Saint_Philomena> Tj- i will try thanks you.
[12:57] <TJ-> pavlushka: installed via kubuntu-desktop!?
[12:57] <Silmarillion> I have installed Xubuntu on my ASUS notebook (it currently has Windows 8.1 on a 300 GB SDA (scsi HDD) but I want to do away with Windows altogether by removing the this notebook's HDD and installing a new 120 GB Intel SSD (just large enough to run Xubuntu alone). The notebook has UEFI BIOS. If I am not running Windows x64, there should be no need for the UEFI (EFI boot partitions) setting in BIOS. Can I simply set my BIOS to Launch CSM/Enabled. Fast
[12:57] <pavlushka> TJ-: due to that error, two packages failing to install, kde-telepathy-minimal
[12:57] <pavlushka>  kde-telepathy
[12:58] <TJ-> pavlushka: which version of kubuntu is it?
[12:58] <pavlushka> 16.04
[12:58] <TJ-> pavlushka: do you have some 3rd party PPAs or repos enabled where it may have come from?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> either a ppa or we mixing distro sources.
[12:59] <Silmarillion> Am I asking my question in the wrong channel?
[12:59] <pavlushka> TJ-: today I tried pantheon desktop from ppa
[13:00] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: you're in the right place, just no one got around to respond, yet.
[13:00] <TJ-> pavlushka: well you seem to be correct about it being related to Arch's pacman
[13:00] <Silmarillion> Thank you, i am glad to wait.
[13:00] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: your first message was cut off due to the irc per line limit. it was cut off after "Can I simply set my BIOS to Launch CSM/Enabled. Fast "
[13:01] <ioria> pavlushka,   dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libalpm.so.10
[13:01] <Silmarillion> Oh..oh my. I apologize. Thank you for pointing out line limit tomreyn.
[13:01] <TJ-> Silmarillion: Yes, you could do that, but if the system is native EFI I'd always recommend using EFI mode, provided the system firmware doesn't have any silly bugs preventing it from using non-Windows boot-loader paths
[13:02] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: generally, i would run linux with a uefi bios nowadays if thats the default the firmware suggests.
[13:02] <TJ-> pavlushka: looks like pantheon desktop is the culprit
[13:02] <pavlushka> ioria: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libalpm.so.10
[13:03] <TJ-> pavlushka: dpkg and apt-file won't cant find it because it wasn't installed by the debian package management system. Sounds like you've broken your system!
[13:03] <Silmarillion> Can I copy the current EFI boot partition on the standard HDD i currently have in the notebook to the SSD i plan to install in the ASUS notebook?
[13:04] <pavlushka> TJ-: ok, I am fixing it, dont worry, reversing the process :)
[13:05] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: sure you could, but what'S the purpose?
[13:05] <TJ-> Silmarillion: you could or you can let the Ubuntu installer create it
[13:05] <Silmarillion> That EFI boot partition preceeds the Primary Windows 8.1 x64 NTFS partition that contains Win OS.
[13:05] <tomreyn> gpt has no concept of primary partitions
[13:05] <TJ-> Silmarillion: as long as you boot the Ubuntu installer in EFI mode it'll install Ubuntu in EFI mode, creating the EFI-SP if necessary
[13:06] <Silmarillion> The Ubuntu installer can create the EFI boot partition? Oh, wait, i can select the option *Something Else, during install of xubuntu.
[13:06] <TJ-> tomreyn: I think Silmarillion was referring to Windows concept of 'primary' because there are often a few NTFS partitions
[13:06] <tomreyn> oh, probably
[13:07] <tuseroni> hello
[13:07] <pavlushka> Oh, and another issue, dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[13:07] <pavlushka>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
[13:07] <tomreyn> hi tuseroni
[13:07] <Silmarillion> Yes there are 3 NTFS partitions (OS/Data/Recovery)
[13:08] <TJ-> pavlushka: that's on /old/ bug! hasn't it been fixed yet!?!
[13:09] <ioria> pavlushka, that's an old bug iirc; but what about the libalpm.so ? do you have an archlinux repo in sources ?
[13:09] <Silmarillion> I have no DVD/CDrom drive in the ASUS notebook. I would have to attach an external USB driven DVD/CDROM drive.
[13:09] <pavlushka> ioria: I manually removed that library which fixed that problem
[13:09] <Silmarillion> UEFI BIOS do NOT like USB devices
[13:09] <tuseroni> so, i have installed and configured samba, seems to work on my linux machine, can access it via konqueror, but i can't connect to it from my windows machine, i get "the network name cannot be found" while perhaps not exactly an ubuntu problem...since it seems to be working inside ubntu...but any ideas?
[13:09] <ioria> pavlushka, do you know its origin ?
[13:10] <pavlushka> TJ-: looks like its not
[13:10] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: your specific one, or uefi bios in general? since, in gerneral, they do.
[13:11] <Silmarillion> When I attempted it the Boot portion of my BIOS stated there was no path to USB.
[13:11] <TJ-> Bug #1451728
[13:11] <Silmarillion> I had to force boot via UEFI
[13:11] <pavlushka> ioria: I installed elementary desktop and then compiled elementary-tweaks from git and after that installed kubuntu-desktop which caught into the problem
[13:11] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: and you had a bootable usb stick plugged in since before you pressed th epower button?
[13:11] <TJ-> pavlushka: ^^^^ there are /lots/ of duplicates of this master-bug, including ones referring to google-im.service
[13:11] <ioria> pavlushka, i see, tx
[13:12] <Silmarillion> Oh i did not have USB stick plugged in.
[13:12] <TJ-> pavlushka: I've never seen a list of duplicates on a bug that long!
[13:12] <Sven_vB> Mowner, I'm still having strange charset issues with the "clean" approach, but overall I think that's a good idea. thanks!
[13:13] <TJ-> pavlushka: looks like "sudo dpkg --remove account-plugin-google" might help
[13:13] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: just write an ubuntu installer on a usb stick and see if you can boot off that in uefi mode.
[13:13] <Silmarillion> Should I place the ISO image on a USB thumb drive instead of DVD disc
[13:13] <pavlushka> TJ-: ioria I was fine with LXDE but someone known to me recently switched to ubuntu and he loved the pantheon desktop but was having issue
[13:14] <Silmarillion> Okay. I will try that. Burn image of Xubuntu iso to USB thumb drive.
[13:14] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: not the iso file itself, but you use another software to extract the iso file contents to the usb stick and to make it bootable
[13:14] <pavlushka> TJ-: ioria So in trying to help him I wanted to test that desktop but oh my
[13:14] <Mowner> Sven_vB: great, you should compare to another tools to see if aspell is really what you want
[13:15] <Silmarillion> Yes, tomreyn, i will burn the image of the iso onto the usb thumb drive.
[13:15] <Silmarillion> Thank you for much needed assistance.
[13:15] <tuseroni> anyone got any familiarity with setting up a samba share and connecting to it via windows?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !samba | tuseroni
[13:17] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: i'd approach it this way: (1) backup any data you still need (or move the current hdd to a different computer so you stiul have access to the data), (2) write the ubuntu installer iso to usb stick, (3) replace the hdd by the ssd in your laptop, (4) set bios to uefi mode, (5) boot ubuntu installer from usb
[13:17] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: you're welcome.
[13:18] <crised> Any guide to set up a IpSEC ESP with manual keying between 2 Ubuntu hosts
[13:18] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: personally, i would also update the system firmware between steps 2 and 3
[13:19] <tuseroni> yeah that doesn't help me
[13:19] <pavlushka> TJ-: I had to "sudo dpkg --remove account-plugin-google unity-scope-gdrive" to fix the issue
[13:19] <tomreyn> crised: this is somewhat specific. i'd say check the documentation of the ipsec implementation you're using.
[13:20] <tuseroni> i've already done all that, but the windows machine says the network name cannot be found
[13:20] <crised> tomreyn: Shouldn't IPSec ESP be mainstream?
[13:20] <TJ-> pavlushka: I saw that gdrive might also be needed; glad you got it back under control
[13:21] <pavlushka> TJ-: ioria thanks :)
[13:21] <ioria> pavlushka, ok
[13:22] <tomreyn> crised: ipsec with esp is not anything unusual (if not something the average user sets up any day), but how you do the manual keying surely depends on the implementation you choose.
[13:22] <crised> tomreyn: like which encryption algorithms I choose and things like that?
[13:22] <tomreyn> crised: yes
[13:23] <crised> tomreyn: What's the implementation below ipsec-tools
[13:23] <Silmarillion> This channel has made my day! Thank you for saving me from "slugging it out" with my xubu install.  Have an outstanding weekend if i am not able to drop by sooner.
[13:23] <TJ-> crised: IPsec is famous for being complex and difficult to configure unfortunately; is there a specific reason you need IPsec as opposed to some other solution?
[13:23] <TJ-> Silmarillion: glad you got sorted :)
[13:24] <Silmarillion> Thanks and praise tomreyn and TJ-:
[13:24] <Silmarillion> i must away people. TTFN
[13:24] <crised> TJ-: yes, there is an specific reason unfortunately :(
[13:25] <tomreyn> Silmarillion: good luck, you're welcome
[13:26] <TJ-> crised: Well last time I had to deploy it, I think I had to re-read instructions and even source-code due to wanting to avoid using a weak cipher and it took me 1/2 a day of sweat and swearing :)
[13:26] <tomreyn> tomreyn: i've only worked with strongswan and openswan software imeplementations so far, but that's been a while ago, too.
[13:26] <tomreyn> yeay, talking to myself
[13:26] <tomreyn> crised: ^
[13:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: that's what IPsec does to ya!
[13:27] <tomreyn> :)
[13:28] <tomreyn> "wanting to avoid using a weak cipher" -> obvious ipsec noob mistake
[13:28] <Sven_vB> Mowner, can you recommend some tool for guessing the probability that a given text is written in the language of a given locale?
[13:28] <tomreyn> sorry, i'll move this to -discuss nex ttime
[13:31] <Mowner> Sven_vB: that seems something for a NeuralNetwork something like LSTM... however I only heard about it about a year ago and didnt do much reaserch on it
[13:32] <Sven_vB> Mowner, well ok it should be fast still. :)
[13:42] <Mowner> So I think i pinned down the issue as much as I can. I want to set the brightness keys (fn+F5 and fn+F6), however Xbacklight and using xfce-power-manager to control the keys don't work. I made a script that works on console however it doesn't work when I set it in my .config file (im using i3WM)
[13:43] <Mowner> My guess its something to do with the enviroment im running the script, one in console and the other in the config file... any clues how to fix it?
[13:43] <TJ-> Mowner: usually those hotkeys are controlled by a platform specific driver and automatically linked to the correct internal signals
[13:44] <crised> Has anyone used ssh -D to make a sort of vpn?
[13:44] <crised> if so can you name me a command?
[13:44] <crised> s/ Could you help me with a command?
[13:44] <Mowner> TJ-: usually, unfortunatly it wasn't my case, i had to set the volume keys... however some of them work fine (wifi, and bluetooth)
[13:46] <TJ-> Mowner: did you investigate kernel platform module options that might help? Also, sometimes it's ACPI related and acpi_osi can improve things
[13:48] <Mowner> TJ-: I'm quite new in the messing with the computer, thats why I only changed the WM is there any place to read that you recommend? I mean I'll google and all, but sometimes things are too criptic
[13:49] <TJ-> Mowner: show us the kernel log and I'll check what might help you: "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[13:49] <avid_reader> @search Leveraging the Universe
[13:52] <Mowner> TJ-: the kernel log is quite big, do you need some specific part?
[13:54] <TJ-> Mowner: the dmesg is perfect... I exist on kernel logs :)
[13:54] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[13:57] <Guest8927> Hey everyone my wifi is disturbing a lot...I ain't getting strong wifi signal
[13:58] <Mowner> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/crARsr49 ITS 900 lines, I mean you don't need to read that thing
[13:58] <Guest8927> Please Help
[13:58] <TJ-> Mowner: only 900? I'm used to several thousand :)
[13:59] <TJ-> Mowner: so is this a Lenovo Thinkpad E470 ?
[13:59] <Mowner> TJ-: yes
[13:59] <Mowner> TJ-: I feel naked
[13:59] <TJ-> Mowner: good - that's important info
[13:59] <TJ-> Mowner: put your PJs on then :D
[14:00] <TJ-> Mowner: these logs are the bread and butter of the support we give, especially for hardware/platform/driver issues
[14:00] <Space_Man> a recent 14.04 update has stopped sound and slowed down logins https://paste.debian.net/1014099/ any ideas?
[14:00] <Space_Man> dmesg https://paste.debian.net/1014110/
[14:00] <Space_Man> TJ-: I've tried 3 kernels and the problem is the same
[14:02] <Mowner> TJ-: So where do I start learning this things?
[14:04] <TJ-> Mowner: hmmm. Best thing is to read dmesg (which is the kernel message log) to get to know what to expect, what changes, what happens when... after a while you come to be able to instintively know what to look for and focus on... in your case, I suspect line 789 "[    4.352936] thinkpad_acpi: ThinkPad BIOS R0DET33W (1.09 ), EC unknown"
[14:06] <TJ-> Mowner: thinkpad_acpi is the platform-specific ACPI driver for Thinkpad models but it looks as if your model was not known when kernel v4.13 was released, so it reports it does not recognised the EC (Embedded Controller). So my first step is to look in the latest Linux kernel source-code and see if recognition has been added
[14:07] <Mowner> TJ-:  Ill se whats what... however a few lines below it says '[    4.362899] thinkpad_acpi: This ThinkPad has standard ACPI backlight brightness control, supported by the ACPI video driver
[14:07] <Mowner> [    4.362900] thinkpad_acpi: Disabling thinkpad-acpi brightness events by default...
[14:07] <Mowner> '
[14:10] <TJ-> Mowner: yes, but there's no indication of hotkey input devices recognition... controlling the backlight is a separate function, as-in, the key-events could be used to do something else
[14:11] <Mowner> TJ-: I must add, all this keys worked fine before adding i3WM to the mix. thanks for your aid, i'm looking into the kernel source code
[14:14] <TJ-> Mowner: Hmmm, so using the default desktop session rather than i3WM, do the hot-keys work again or has something permanently disabled their function?
[14:16] <TJ-> Mowner: Generally I'd suggest trying the latest mainline kernel build but there have been very few changes in the thinkpad_acpi module since v4.13 and none that could affect this. What I did notice in the source-code is there are 2 ACPI IDs for the hotkeys and I don't see either reported in the kernel log. That may be because 'debug' level logging is not enabled or generally they aren't reported.
[14:19] <Mowner> TJ-: mmmh I'm not sure if it works on default desktop. So should I run dsemg with another flag? maybe -l debug?
[14:27] <TJ-> Mowner: no, it's fine. If you've had the hotkeys working fine before adding i3WM then what desktop session was that? Does using it now see those keys working? If so you know it's a lack of functionality in i3WM.
[14:29] <fanta> hi
[14:32] <Mowner> yea, i was using ubuntu as comes, i think gnome is the name, however I get mixed up
[14:33] <TJ-> Mowner: Gnome or Unity, depending on release version
[14:36] <bonkano> Can anybody help me to solve /dev/sda7 clean from ubuntu 17.04
[14:36] <Sven_vB> trying to run Windows programs in wine in xenial amd64. I've installed mono and gecko system packages as wine recommended, but it still doesn't detect them. any ideas? http://abload.de/img/wine_mono_gecko9zsh2.jpeg
[14:36] <Mowner> TJ-: yea, Gnome then... so its an i3WM problem mmmmh
[14:37] <TJ-> Mowner: well that is /good/ news since it's not a system or OS problem :)
[14:38] <TJ-> Mowner: most times it is which is why I went directly to the kernel log
[14:39] <DiecastMessiah> Sven_vB: maybe best to try at #winehq .. maybe a fix it .. best i could say is try installing those packs with winetricks
[14:40] <DiecastMessiah> maybe able to fix it.. i am new so don't know
[14:40] <Sven_vB> thanks, I'll try
[14:40] <DiecastMessiah> you know about wineprefix's ??
[14:41] <DiecastMessiah> Sven_vB:
[14:41] <Sven_vB> DiecastMessiah, yes. I'd still expect wine to be able to detect the system packages independent of which wine prefix I've set.
[14:42] <Mowner> TJ-: yea, I'm thrilled, well thanks I learned a lot from you
[14:49] <troozers> Hi guys, not entirely sure where this problem lies so am asking in Chrome and here... Got Chrome installed on Ubuntu 17.10 and every time I reboot it forgets the Account Sync password.  Doesn't happen on any other platform
[15:01] <TJ-> troozers: have you tried using Chromium too?
[15:04] <troozers> I haven't, although the chromium codecs seem to be installed (chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra)
[15:06] <jasey> troozers: i can't say it'll fix the problem but i definitely find chromium works better than chrome itself
[15:06] <jasey> troozers: i haven't looked back since i installed it.
[15:07] <troozers> OK, I shall have a go look-see at Chromium.  Thanks for the feedback, tis much appreciated
[15:11] <ioria> Mowner, have seen this : https://cialu.net/brightness-control-not-work-i3wm/
[15:23] <antgel> I just successfully upgraded my desktop from Xenial to Bionic, and then tried on my laptop. My laptop is failing as it's timing out waiting for the /boot/efi partition, and / or the resume partition, which appears to be encrypted (not sure if it was on Xenial). This used to work fine. Screen images at https://photos.app.goo.gl/DZ5yVaJWLKHrGr2O2 - anyone got any clues what I should try next?
[15:24] <antgel> I really don't understand why things are timing out - I can mount /boot/efi from recovery mode, so I don't know why my initramfs can't
[15:25] <antgel> Oops, I should be in ubuntu+1
[15:33] <qianran> 有人吗
[15:33] <qianran> github
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> !ch | qianran
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> ugh
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> !cn
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> alwaus get those two confused
[15:35] <qianran> where are you from,friend
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> qianran, this channel is for request support for Ubuntu... If you would like to chat please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:37] <qianran> sorry,now i got it
[15:37] <qianran> ok,ok
[15:42] <ycyclist> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c28sHzttx9/
[15:46] <nukem> Anyone know how to prevent a snap package from having internet access?
[15:46] <nukem> i.e. block it
[15:48] <adalbert> nukem: which port is it using ?
[15:49] <nukem> adalbert: no idea. I'm debating grabbing the KeePassXC snap, and would want to isolate it from the internet
[15:50] <nukem> adalbert: how can I tell what port it would use? I've got a temp VM up that I can test with
[15:51] <adalbert> nukem: KeePassXC needs network access for downloading website icons (favicons) for password entries and for providing KeePassHTTP-compatible browser extensions with access to your database. Both features are optional and opt-in. KeePassXC will never access any network resource without your explicit prior consent. If you don't use either of these features, you may also compile KeePassXC without any networking code
[15:52] <nukem> adalbert: yeah I see that in the FAQ, but I'm paranoid
[15:52] <ycyclist> Can someone direct me to a kernel build support group?
[15:52] <adalbert> nukem: wireshark your network after installing it ?
[15:53] <nukem> adalbert: from the same machine or from another (wired) networked machine?
[15:53] <adalbert> nukem: from the same machine
[15:54] <nukem> adalbert: just curious if that's a feature of snap packs in general. They're new to me
[15:54] <nukem> adalbert: i.e. 'easily' restricting certain resources
[15:54] <adalbert> nukem: i have no idea, i'm quite new to snap myself
[15:56] <adalbert> nukem: in any case, i'm pretty sure that if you compile without any network support , there's not going to be any traffic back or forth since it has no code for it.
[15:56] <kostkon> nukem, use snap disconnect somehow to take away network access. the interface is 'network' afaik. more info here https://docs.snapcraft.io/core/interfaces
[15:56] <kostkon> nukem, also  man snap
[16:00] <nukem> hmm
[16:00] <nukem> adalbert kostkon do yall use kpxc?
[16:01] <kostkon> nukem, i use a lot of snaps but in the case of keepass i use keepassx from the repos
[16:01] <nukem> kostkon: any particular reason why keepassx instead of xc?
[16:02] <adalbert> nukem: I don't use it .
[16:02] <kostkon> nukem, i must had one at the time, when deciding what to install, but i can't remember anymore what it was
[16:22] <bonkano1> My ubuntu 17.04 cannot start. I have the message /dev/sda7 clean xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx blocks message at startup. Ireally need help
[16:24] <bonkano1> My ubuntu 17.04 cannot start. I have the message /dev/sda7 clean xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx blocks message at startup. Ireally need help
[16:27] <lowryder> bonkano1: (we saw your message from 2 minutes ago. If someone else sees it and wants to engage, they probably will)
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | bonkano1
[16:29] <pingec> Hello, is it possible to boot a live ubuntu from a usb stick?
[16:30] <lowryder> pingec: yes, as long as the bios for the machine allows booting from usb
[16:31] <pingec> Shoud I follow this wizard https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#0
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> pingec, that is the best tutorial to use :-)
[16:32] <pingec> ty
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1, what was the last thing you did with your computer before the message appeared?   Is there some kind of algorithm or package fix for this?
[16:48] <bonkano1> pragmaticenigma, i did an update && upgrade and dist-upgrade
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1, do you have any 3rd party PPAs enabled?
[16:50] <bonkano1> pragmaticenigma: , I think
[16:52] <ioria> bonkano1, you know 17.04 is no longer supported ?  said that, can you open a console with ctrl+alt+f1  after that msg appear ?
[16:53] <pragmaticenigma> ioria, I missed that...
[16:53] <ioria> !17.04
[16:53] <bonkano1>  ioria, I tried to do that but I only have black screnn can't access to a console
[16:54] <ioria> bonkano1,  try again with another Fx key (like F2); if fails, you need reecovery Mode from Grub menu
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1, my suggestion is that you boot to a live disk, transfer your files to an external disk or another computer. Then format and install a supported version of Ubuntu. 17.04 is no longer officailly supported
[16:56] <ioria> bonkano1,  or that ^
[16:56] <bonkano1> pragmaticenigma, and what about my installed apps?
[16:56] <sliddis> I cant start my VM. whats wrong here? https://imgur.com/a/IbfYl
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> what about them, you can install them again when you get your machine up and running once more
[16:58] <bonkano1> I have a lot of apps, it will not be easy for mr
[16:59] <bonkano1> Is there anyway to migrate to 17.10 without new installation?
[17:00] <kostkon> bonkano1, attempt an eol upgrade but your system seems to be borked either way
[17:00] <ioria> bonkano1, you don't even have a login prompt ....
[17:00] <kostkon> !eolupgrades
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> We are limited on what can be done with 17.04. It is unsupported and if there was a recent update installed to your machine, it came from a 3rd party PPA that is not supported. It is not recommended to install 3rd party PPAs on your system.
[17:00] <kostkon> bonkano1, you'll probably get a borked system even if you do a release upgrade
[17:01] <par4g0n> sliddis: https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0
[17:02] <ioria> bonkano1,  i have already suggested you  Recovery Mode, right ?
[17:04] <jac76> Is there a tool/program that enables me to "DVR" a live stream broadcast?
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1,  Applications can easily be reinstalled later. If they are that important to you, you should already have a list so you know what to install when your computer is back up and running. It would be nice to not have to put you through this process, however, when a version of ubuntu reaches end of life, it isn't supported.
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> !mythtv | jac76
[17:05] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1, please keep all messages in the chat room and do not private message without asking for permission first. all messages should be kept here so others who may have the same issue can also recieve help
[17:06] <jac76> Ok, I'll check out mythtv, any others?
[17:06] <bonkano1> ok I'm understand
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> bonkano1, you will not have a successful upgrade to 17.10 because you have 3rd party PPAs installed. They have to be removed prior to even attempting an system upgrade
[17:07] <pragmaticenigma> jac76, mythtv is the most mature and longest running home DVR system I am aware of. I'm sure there are others, but mythtv has the widest available support and users.
[17:09] <sliddis> par4g0n: thanks it worked
[17:11] <c> hi
[17:12] <c> hello everyone
[17:12] <paolo_> hola
[17:12] <paolo_> buonasera
[17:12] <paolo_> ciao
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | Guest28758
[17:15] <shpingrlde> hello. I'm using xubuntu on an hp dv7, and I can't get sound via my audio jack. the HDMI out, and laptop speakers work fine. previously, on Manjaro-XFCE, I was able to use the audio jacks. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this, because there's no error in the var syslogs. screenshot of the volume control: http://i.imgur.com/arSjrtl.png as you can see, it always says Line Out is (unplugged), no matter which
[17:15] <shpingrlde> jack I plug the speakers into. and it doesn't include an entry for Headphones, which may be the actual problem, I'm not sure. any pointers in the direction of how to troubleshoot this would be lovely!
[17:19] <stillunt1tled> b
[17:22] <xbox> hi
[17:23] <xbox> i am in my xbox using linux :v
[17:30] <pengwens> cool
[17:45] <AppAraat> hi, does anyone else notice increased CPU usage when viewing YT videos on more recent kernels of 16.04? I'm on 4.13.0-36-generic
[17:45] <jac76> pragmaticenigma, I been reading and it seems that MythTV requires tuner cards, so I guess capturing internet live streamed video is outside it's capabilities. Bummer
[17:45] <AppAraat> it's like 40% more usage. A YT video now frequently consumes 100% CPU on my i5-3360
[17:47] <AppAraat> and it's usually 720p, not even talking about higher encodings.
[17:47] <AppAraat> could this be the result of SPECTRE/Meltdown mitigations?
[17:56] <TJ-> AppAraat: I read recently YouTupe changed the default codec to their VP9 I think it is, which doesn't have so much support in hardware. I also read there is a setting to force it to use H.264 which hardware mostly supprots
[17:56] <TJ-> AppAraat: I can't verify that myself because I don't use youtube but I'd think with that knowledge you can find some info via a search
[17:57] <AppAraat> interesting, I'll take a look at that. Thanks.
[18:01] <AppAraat> perhaps this is also IO related, I think I'm able to correlate CPU usage of say Chromium with IO activity using iotop. My SSD has 23GB of 512GB available. Can this be an issue?
[18:02] <TJ-> AppAraat: I wouldn't have thought so /unless/ the file-system is doing real-time 'discard' rather than the weekly 'fstrim'
[18:02] <TJ-> AppAraat: there's the 'discard' option in /etc/fstab and mount options that enables real-time
[18:03] <AppAraat> I have FDE enabled if that makes any difference.
[18:03] <kostkon> AppAraat, there is the h264ify addon for chrome and firefox for that very purpose
[18:04] <TJ-> AppAraat: I doubt it
[18:04] <TJ-> AppAraat: sounds like kostkon knows something about the issue I read about
[18:05] <AppAraat> thanks, found it - https://github.com/erkserkserks/h264ify
[18:06] <kostkon> AppAraat, you'll find that lack of hardware accel support for vp8-vp9 is common on many systems
[18:06] <AppAraat> I'm going to see if it makes any difference, will report.
[18:07] <lwizardl> how do i fix a broken sound settings in panel on xubuntu? I select the audio icon, then select sound settings... and nothing happens
[18:09] <kostkon> lwizardl, delete your ~/.config/pulse  folder then either logout or reboot and then try again
[18:09] <AppAraat> kostkon: I can confirm YT now under 1080p uses around 25-30% CPU instead of 100%. According to "Stats for nerds" - Codecs: avc1.4d401f (136) / mp4a.40.2 (140)
[18:09] <AppAraat> thanks
[18:10] <kostkon> AppAraat, good to see. that looks manageable. np
[18:10] <AppAraat> definitely, now my computer doesn't freeze up when viewing YT videos lol
[18:13] <FurretUber> What can I do to improve the sound quality of the internal microphone of my notebook? Its quality is pretty bad compared to Windows 10
[18:14] <lwizardl> kostkon, nope still same
[18:15] <Sotomayor> Hi, I'm newbie in the world of linux. I have 2 different users on VPS ubuntu and 1 interface with 2 static ip: is it possible to assign to each user the ip with which he has to "work"? Thank you :)
[18:16] <kostkon> lwizardl, are you able to remove the applet. then add it back?
[18:24] <badchipmunk> anyone in here have experience in getting openvswitch bridges up at boot?
[18:27] <compdoc> badchipmunk, did you try those suggestions of using <IP_ADDRESS> address for the bridge?
[18:32] <GuiToris> Why does my usb mouse get suspended after a few seconds? How can I do about it?
[18:37] <AppAraat> GuiToris: check whether suspending USB devices is enabled in power settings. A bit deeper might be BIOS / UEFI USB settings.
[18:38] <GuiToris> I use tlp and I even blacklisted my mouse
[18:39] <massimog> hi All
[18:39] <GuiToris> AppAraat, it can't be a BIOS settings, before the reinstall, it worked properly
[18:39] <massimog> bye
[18:39] <AppAraat> does it also suspend when not using TLP? Also, power mgmt is separate from TLP.
[18:41] <GuiToris> it seems so
[18:41] <GuiToris> I disabled and it turned off
[18:42] <AppAraat> IIRC TLP operations are (de-)activated between boots.
[18:42] <GuiToris> I might not have rebooted between them
[18:42] <AppAraat> and don't forget to turn of power mgmt in Ubuntu itself.
[18:43] <GuiToris> I'll give it a try, thanks
[18:46] <GuiToris> AppAraat, https://ptpb.pw/Tip-
[18:46] <GuiToris> This is my current configuration
[18:49] <GuiToris> I'll try to disable it
[18:49] <badchipmunk> @compdoc, no just dhcp
[18:49] <badchipmunk> compdoc
[18:55] <GuiToris> AppAraat, it's working now :S
[18:55] <GuiToris> something is wrong with TLP
[18:55] <GuiToris> what should I change?
[18:57] <speekay> Hello!
[18:57] <speekay> Can anyone help me with this?
[18:57] <speekay> #
[18:57] <speekay> #
[18:57] <speekay> #
[18:57] <speekay> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
[18:57] <speekay>  lost connection
[19:00] <fcastillo> speekay: you haven't given us almost any info. What are you doing when you see that message?
[19:00] <AppAraat> GuiToris: dunno, I don't have much experience with TLP, but at least you know where to look at. Perhaps see again whether the USB ID is the correct one. Also, whitelist / blacklist might be the other way around.
[19:01] <speekay> Its an error regarding ssh keys I suppose... I am using ssh keys to commmunicate between a host and a guest system
[19:01] <GuiToris> thank you for your help AppAraat
[19:02] <AppAraat> np
[19:30] <Slade> which ubuntu download do i want for a docker host?
[19:30] <Slade> server, or cloud
[19:41] <Gizmo_Romick> Could someone help me?  I am looking to have my open media vault server be as reliable as possible on both the OS and the filesystem.  I have the choice enabling ZFS, which from what I understand is a very reliable FS, through plugins and the testing repository, or using a FS like XFS or EXT4 which isn't as reliable as ZFS, but is included in the OMS stable.  Which should I choose?
[19:42] <TJ-> Slade: for the host? bare-metal = -server, virtual-machine = cloud
[19:42] <Slade> TJ-, awesome
[19:42] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: it depends on what you expect to go wrong and your ability to recover - ext4 for easiest route with most tools to recovery
[19:43] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: I have multiple backups, so maybe I should stop overcomplicating and just stick with ext4.  I was just worried about file copying reliability.  I really don't know that much about filesystems
[19:44] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: I also use RAID6
[19:44] <AppAraat> Gizmo_Romick: thought not as battle-tested as ZFS, there's also BTRFS which is a part of the kernel and not loaded as a separate kernel module like ZFS.
[19:44] <AppAraat> both filesystems have methods of stopping bitrot
[19:45] <Gizmo_Romick> AppAraat: does BTRFS still have problems with Raid 5/6?  If true, I would very much consider using it
[19:45] <AppAraat> I don't have much experience with BTRFS, but I'd say do a mirror instead of complicating things with other RAID modes.
[19:46] <AppAraat> this way (at least with ZFS) when bitrot is detected on one drive, it can be healed from the copy of the other drive.
[19:47] <Gizmo_Romick> AppAraat: so your saying in my case as a home user who is most concerned about simplicity and reliability, I should go with BTRFS and RAID 1?
[19:47] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: is it hardware RAID or OS-implemented software RAID?
[19:47] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: OS-implemented
[19:48] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: It's just an old...ish computer I installed OMV and a few hard drives laying around
[19:48] <mate-user> hi :)
[19:48] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: OK, one thing you might want to consider is using LVM on the RAID so that at a later date you can easily expand the volumes/file-systems at will if you need more space
[19:49] <AppAraat> Gizmo_Romick: yes, though you should also consider choosing your hardware carefully if your data is very important to you. For example, while ECC RAM, mobo and CPU is not a requirement, it will help prevent memory errors.
[19:49] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: Generally when I delploy I use RAID > LVM > PVs > VGs and I /do not/ allocate all the free space in the VGs to LVs, I create LVs big enough for now and do lvextend + resize2fs' later as needed
[19:50] <Gizmo_Romick> ok, thanks for the help everyone
[19:50] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: with LVM you can easily add another disk/disks to an existing VG
[19:50] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: i'm going to try setting it up that way.  OMV is currently re-installing from my failed attempt to use ZFS (I backed up first of course)
[19:50] <mate-user> i made a new distro poll, my first one got spammed and included BSD distros, so i made a new linux desktop only poll, please vote
[19:51] <mate-user> https://strawpoll.com/erb9dsxw
[19:51] <mate-user> thanks :)
[19:51] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: I use ext4 since it is trivial to resize it online (expand) including rootfs, and to shrink it if needed
[19:52] <Gizmo_Romick> TJ: how is data reliability in ext4?  I would like to use it because it is more tested, but does it prevent errors and bitrot?
[19:54] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: it has support for metadata checksums amongst other features https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Features
[19:55] <shpingrlde> ahoy! I'm using xubuntu on an hp dv7, and I can't get sound via my audio jack. the HDMI out, and laptop speakers work fine. previously, on Manjaro-XFCE, I was able to use the audio jacks. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this, because there's no error in the var syslogs. screenshot of the volume control: http://i.imgur.com/arSjrtl.png as you can see, it always says Line Out is (unplugged), no matter which
[19:55] <shpingrlde> jack I plug the speakers into. and it doesn't include an entry for Headphones, which may be the actual problem, I'm not sure. any pointers in the direction of how to troubleshoot this would be lovely!
[19:55] <TJ-> Gizmo_Romick: front page of that Wiki has some informative linnks
[19:56] <fabiansc> Hi Everyone. Can someone help me out recovering my ARM linux ubuntu? NetworkManager cannot find /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libudev.so.1 and I dont know why
[19:56] <TJ-> shpingrlde: you're on the correct lines so far. Can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[19:57] <shpingrlde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9bsx7qGK2b/
[19:58] <tomreyn> fabiansc: does the file exist, though?
[19:59] <AppAraat> TJ-: metadata checksums however are not a substitute for per-block hashing.
[19:59] <shpingrlde> oh, the speakers aren't currently plugged into the headphone jack. I can do that and repaste if it's needed for better dmesg info
[19:59] <fabiansc> yep, i checked it. It is a system link to libudev.so.1.6.4
[19:59] <AppAraat> Gizmo_Romick: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/68zg6v/bitrot_proof_file_systems/
[20:00] <TJ-> shpingrlde: line 783 "snd_hda_codec_idt hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)"  --- I'd expect that to be hp_outs=1 at least
[20:00] <tomreyn> fabiansc: ls -l /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libudev.so.1  # provided by package libudev1 (in xenial == 16.04): https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/armhf/libudev1/filelist
[20:00] <fabiansc> tomreyn: But network manager throws: ubuntu /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.1: cannot open shared object file
[20:00] <tomreyn> fabiansc: does the target oif the symlink exist and is it a regular file?
[20:00] <TJ-> AppAraat: indeed not, I mentioned it since I was dealing with a tooling issue where that is missing in e2fsprogs earlier
[20:01] <tomreyn> fabiansc: (and does it exist at this very location the symlink points to)
[20:01] <fabiansc> tomreyn: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Feb 1 16:04 /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libudev.so.1 -> libudev.sp.1.6.4
[20:02] <TJ-> shpingrlde: to give you some context, here is what I see on my Dell (which has 2 H/P jacks) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HF3TnXbsSQ/
[20:02] <fabiansc> tomreyn: lubudev.so.1.6.4 is a regular file (typo up there; as the ubuntu cannot connect to the internet)
[20:02] <fabiansc> tomreyn: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8440 Feb 1 16:04 for libudev.so.1.6.4
[20:03] <shpingrlde> hmm, so I'll browse aptitude for HD codecs?
[20:03] <fabiansc> tomreyn: so libudev.so.1 and its link to libudev.so.1.6.4 (file) looks ok from my perspective.
[20:04] <fabiansc> tomreyn: I thought that there might be a configuration at NetworkManager, that he is looking at a wrong location?
[20:04] <TJ-> shpingrlde: No, it's a configuration issue. The wrong info is being provided to the kernel about what's available. I'm not sure if that is something the driver deduces by reading the device config space or whether it comes from ACPI
[20:05] <tomreyn> fabiansc: the error message doesn't suggest that it's looking at the wrong location
[20:06] <tomreyn> fabiansc: since when does this issue happen?
[20:06] <shpingrlde> hm. purge and reinstall xfce, hoping that the audio stack configures correctly?
[20:06] <fabiansc> tomreyn: you got a point there.
[20:06] <TJ-> shpingrlde: try this: plug the headphones in then run "alsactl init"
[20:07] <fabiansc> tomreyn: Its a rapsberry pi running without updates for a while now. It must have happened around Februar 16; the date of the system hung up there (its still on Feb)
[20:07] <TJ-> shpingrlde: no, you're overthinking, it's not an OS install issue, it's bad config from the PC firmware so the kernel never gets to know about the headphone port
[20:07] <fabiansc> tomreyn: I also noticed that AWK and vi is not installed anymore. I am not sure how that happened
[20:08] <TJ-> fabiansc: have you checked this isn't due to a corrupt file-system or SD-card ?
[20:08] <tomreyn> fabiansc: /var/log/apt/term.log should provide hints on that
[20:08] <shpingrlde> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "IDT 92HD75B3X5" "HDA:111d7603,103c363c,00100202" "0x103c" "0x363c" \ Hardware is initialized using a generic method
[20:08] <TJ-> fabiansc: I had similar strange happens when the micro-SD card started going bad
[20:09] <tomreyn> fabiansc: i agree an fsck (and maybe a media test, too) may be a good idea.
[20:09] <TJ-> shpingrlde: any sign of headphone port in pavucontrol now?
[20:09] <bynarie> hey guys, i havent been around for a while but last time i used to be able to execute scripts or commands via /etc/rc.local. Now I'm running 17.10, whats the default way to run scripts or commands systemwide at runtime, or something that would be equivalent to /etc/rc.local
[20:09] <bynarie> ?
[20:10] <ioria> fabiansc, you can also run ' ldd /usr/sbin/NetworkManager | grep udev  '  and check for the libs
[20:10] <shpingrlde> not yet. I think I'll try the second suggestion from https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/214166/why-there-is-no-sound-on-my-debian-7 (googled the alsactl init output)
[20:10] <fabiansc> TJ-: term.log has some installations of firefox, than postgresql which resulted in a dpkg error processing package postgresql-common
[20:10] <fabiansc> TJ-: afterwards an dpkg error for python3-update-manager and log end on 2018-02-18
[20:11] <TJ-> shpingrlde: I'm going from a report where the user has the same issue and says "Well, when I run that command with my headphones in, my headphones get sound, but once I take them out and reinsert them I lose it again :S hmm..."
[20:11] <TJ-> fabiansc: so possibly either out-of-space or bad file-system
[20:12] <fabiansc> the sd card was full some time ago and the raspberry came hardly up. I deleted some temporary files back there
[20:12] <TJ-> shpingrlde: I wonder if an acpi_osi override might help you. It's definitely worth trying - we see a lot of this kind of bug in HP firmware recently. http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[20:13] <fabiansc> ioria: returns libgudev-1.0.... => some file
[20:13] <fabiansc> ioria: alibudev.so.1 => not found
[20:13] <fabiansc> ioria: sorry; typo: libudev.so.1 => not found
[20:13] <ioria> bingo
[20:14] <fabiansc> tomreyn: how can i trigger a manual fsck? is there still some "touch /force_fsck"?
[20:14] <shpingrlde> trying that now, thank you
[20:15] <ioria> fabiansc,  you miss a required lib
[20:15] <fabiansc> ioria: you found more than me :) The question is why he is not finding the file. It's located as link /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libudev.so.1 --> /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libudev.so.1.6.4
[20:16] <TJ-> fabiansc: check all the symlinks are not broken: "find /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ -type l -print0 | xargs -0 readlink -ve "
[20:16] <ioria> fabiansc,  i suggest for now, to set up  /etc/network/interface  so you got connection
[20:17] <fabiansc> TJ-: that returned a large list of .so and .o files
[20:18] <TJ-> fabiansc: any sign of errors - may need to scroll back up the list to find any. Because I don't have broken links I'm not sure what to grep for
[20:19] <fabiansc> TJ-: its just a list of files. No error messages or anything like that included
[20:20] <TJ-> fabiansc: OK, I deliberately broken mine in the cause of science! Try this: "find /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ -type l -print0 | xargs -0 readlink -ve | grep 'No such'   "
[20:20] <ioria> TJ-,  lol
[20:20] <fabiansc> TJ-: but there is also no system link displayed; just /lib/arm..../<<filename>>.so.<version>
[20:20] <fabiansc> TJ-: you are cool :)
[20:21] <TJ-> fabiansc: that's correct, readlink -e resolves all symlinks until it finds a proper file/dir ... if it doesn't find one, it reports the "No such..." error
[20:21] <fabiansc> TJ-: empty reply
[20:22] <TJ-> fabiansc: That's interesting!
[20:22] <fabiansc> TJ-: So it was worth breaking the lib? ;)
[20:23] <TJ-> fabiansc: so, you need to do, as root, "ldconfig" to fix the broken cache then it'll work
[20:23] <fabiansc> TJ-: basically i just received a new line for the command prompt (no gui installed). THerefore we had 0 hits
[20:23] <TJ-> fabiansc: ldconfig maintains the list of where to find every library in the system paths, when new packages are installed that change libraries that should call that. if for whatever reason they fail that might not get done so you can do it manually
[20:24] <fabiansc> TJ-: Executed it with sudo. He asked for a password and I received a new command line (no reply)
[20:24] <TJ-> fabiansc: now ioria's command should not report "not found" :   ldd /usr/sbin/NetworkManager | grep udev
[20:25] <fabiansc> TJ-: still not found
[20:25] <fabiansc> TJ-: libudev.so.1 => not found
[20:25] <TJ-> fabiansc: :( ... well that tells us the packages are mangled, let's see if it can fix that with "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:26] <ioria> fabiansc, do you have a minimal internet connection ?
[20:27] <fabiansc> TJ-: outchy. I conneted the pi via cable; but for cable some Ubuntu MAAS is configured with DHCP Provider..
[20:27] <fabiansc> ioria: Basically the same internet as my laptop (writing here). Connectivity is configured via WLAN normally. But it has some strange name (not wlan0; something large and cryptic).
[20:27] <TJ-> fabiansc: ignore it, if you know your sub-net, use " sdo ip addr add a.b.c.d/24 dev eth0" (assuming eth0 is the i/f)
[20:28] <TJ-> s/sdo/sudo/
[20:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: 192.168.190.xx/24 ; looks like you assume a static ip - is there a way for dynamic DHCP?
[20:29] <TJ-> fabiansc: a static is fine for right now
[20:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: The router will not like a static ip, i assume
[20:29] <ioria> why ?
[20:29] <TJ-> fabiansc: it doesn't care and won't realise as long as you use an address in the sub-net it is routing
[20:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: then you need to manually set a DNS server so the raspi can resolve names
[20:30] <fabiansc> TJ-: alright. Cannot finde device "eth0" Any idea where I can check up that strange name on the pi?
[20:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: does this report a symlink: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" ?
[20:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: "ip link show"
[20:31] <fabiansc> TJ-: need a minute now
[20:31] <fabiansc> TJ-: enxb827ebf3bacf is my eth0 dont know why the pi takes that always
[20:31] <TJ-> fabiansc: OK, that looks like it's using the MAC of the interface
[20:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: empty new line for the ip addr
[20:32] <TJ-> fabiansc: do you know your LAN's DNS server IP address?
[20:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: ifconfig still does not displays it
[20:32] <TJ-> fabiansc: "ip addr show" will report allocated IP addresses
[20:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: DNS is the router <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:33] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, so does "ip addr show" report  enxb827ebf3bacf has an IPv4 address ?
[20:33] <ioria> fabiansc, would be easier set up /e/n/interface
[20:33] <fabiansc> TJ-: eth0 has my defined ip now:  inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 scope global enxb827...
[20:34] <xcyclist> Say, there must be a public bugbase for kernel build problems.  Can anyone here point me to it?  I don't see results directly from google.
[20:34] <fabiansc> ioria: just anyother way to do so; but i think it will conflict with NetworkManager later
[20:34] <ioria> fabiansc, nope, just enable/disdable
[20:34] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, so now prove it can ping the gateway: "ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:35] <ioria> fabiansc,  and /e/n/interface prevails usually on NM
[20:35] <fabiansc> TJ-: connect: Network is unreachable
[20:36] <fabiansc> TJ-: sorry cable was dropped
[20:36] <TJ-> fabiansc: I think there's an issue there because you said 'ip addr show' reports for **eth0** ... inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 scope global enxb827... <--- that last is pointing to a different interface name.
[20:37] <TJ-> fabiansc: LOL is that it?! so is it ping-in now ?
[20:37] <fabiansc> TJ-: retrying the ping
[20:37] <iamthad> anyone know if there is a functional debdelta server for Ubuntu these days?
[20:38] <fabiansc> TJ-:  still unreachable. The router also does not display the PI within its network list
[20:38] <TJ-> fabiansc: don't worry about the router view for now; you seem to have different network interface names going on and that is always going to end badly
[20:38] <fabiansc> TJ-: in ip addr show its listed for enxb827 (I just named it eth0)
[20:39] <TJ-> fabiansc: OH! deliberately trying to confuse me :D
[20:39] <fabiansc> TJ-: 2: enxb827... inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 scope global enxb827...
[20:40] <TJ-> fabiansc: does "ip link show" report enxb as state UP
[20:40] <fabiansc> TJ-: state is DOWN
[20:40] <TJ-> fabiansc: aha: "sudo ip link set up dev enxb...@
[20:41] <fabiansc> TJ-: I start hating the enxb2... name :) But some programs are configured to use it anyways
[20:41] <ioria> fabiansc, or   sudo ip link set  enxb827ebf3bacf up
[20:42] <fabiansc> TJ-: returned empty line
[20:42] <TJ-> fabiansc: when i see those I just make a shell variable with it, e.g. "export IF=enxb..." then use $IF whenever I need it
[20:42] <fabiansc> ioria: liked your command more (shorter) :)
[20:42] <TJ-> fabiansc: now try the ping
[20:42] <fabiansc> 0% loss
[20:42] <ioria> fabiansc, check again ip link show
[20:42] <fabiansc> TJ-:  wow
[20:43] <fabiansc> TJ-: pinged the router successfully
[20:43] <ioria> fabiansc, ping www.google.com
[20:43] <fabiansc> ioria: DNS failed i think.unknnown host
[20:43] <TJ-> fabiansc: pinging? now set up the name resolver: " echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf"
[20:44] <fabiansc> TJ-: returned empty line
[20:44] <TJ-> fabiansc: now try ioria's command to test name resolving
[20:45] <fabiansc> sudo ip link set  enxb827ebf3bacf up <--?
[20:45] <TJ-> fabiansc: no "ping www.google.com"
[20:45] <fabiansc> TJ-: ping still failed: connect: Network is unreachable
[20:45] <ioria> fabiansc,  sudo echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf      and try again ping www.google.com
[20:46] <TJ-> we may need to set a default route if DNS works but destination unreachable
[20:46] <ioria> right
[20:46] <TJ-> fabiansc: that's fine, don't touch resolv.conf!
[20:46] <TJ-> fabiansc: "sudo ip route add default dev eth0"
[20:46] <TJ-> fabiansc: then retry the "ping www.google.com"
[20:46] <fabiansc> TJ-: received a "Permission denied" for iorias command anyways :)
[20:47] <fabiansc> TJ-:  even with sudo
[20:47] <ioria> fabiansc, yeah, sy; sudo sh -c "echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /etc/resolv.conf"
[20:47] <fabiansc> TJ-: shall I replace eth0 with my nic?
[20:47] <TJ-> fabiansc: yes, sorry!
[20:48] <ioria> fabiansc,  sudo not working with redirection
[20:48] <TJ-> ioria: don't make it more complicated! we don't have outside routing yet, the gateway will do DNS as we've just shown with the network unreachable response
[20:48] <ioria> ok
[20:48] <TJ-> fabiansc: at this point you should get a reply for the "ping www.google.com"
[20:49] <fabiansc> TJ-: got some news receive a reply from my tv: bravia.fritz.box (<IP_ADDRESS>) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[20:50] <TJ-> fabiansc: errr did you allocate the raspi the IP address of your TV?
[20:50] <fabiansc> TJ-: BTW: Fritzbox lists my rasberry within its network list
[20:51] <fabiansc> TJ-: could be; i did not check if it was already used.
[20:51] <TJ-> fabiansc: hehehe that might be a good idea  ... shall we redo that?
[20:51] <fabiansc> TJ-: Yep I did. Didnt expect that
[20:51] <TJ-> fabiansc: "sudo ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev enxb827ebf3bacf"
[20:52] <TJ-> fabiansc: then let's use a high number "sudo ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev enxb827ebf3bacf"
[20:52] <fabiansc> TJ-: hmm so many devices in the network. I try some 3digits now
[20:52] <TJ-> fabiansc: check the 'default' route is still there with "ip route sho
[20:52] <TJ-> fabiansc: check the 'default' route is still there with "ip route show"
[20:53] <TJ-> fabiansc: if the default route is there try the "ping www.google.com" again
[20:55] <fabiansc> TJ-: ip route show has multiple lines (1. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev tun0; 2. <IP_ADDRESS> dev tun0 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>; 3. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev enx... proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:56] <fabiansc> TJ-: Network unreachable
[20:56] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, but is there one called 'default' ?
[20:56] <fabiansc> TJ-: no defaul in the output
[20:56] <TJ-> fabiansc: then you need to redo "sudo ip route add default dev enxb827ebf3bacf"
[20:57] <TJ-> fabiansc: that means any IP address not matching other routes get sent out the enx... i/f which presumably has your gateway router at the other end of the cable
[20:57] <fabiansc> TJ-: ip route show has default dev enx.... scope link now
[20:57] <TJ-> fabiansc: retry the ping
[20:58] <fabiansc> TJ-: Destination Host Unreachable
[20:58] <TJ-> fabiansc: how about "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:58] <fabiansc> TJ-: router is pingable
[20:58] <fabiansc> TJ-: Destination Host Unreachable
[20:59] <fabiansc> TJ-: So i cannot reach behind the router to reach google DNS
[21:00] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, there's something about your LAN config that needs something more than the regular simple config. If <IP_ADDRESS> is the gateway to the internet that all other devices use it should now be working
[21:00] <fabiansc> TJ-: I can ping devices in the network.
[21:00] <fabiansc> I have a NAT config on the raspberry
[21:00] <TJ-> fabiansc: right now, packets for the Internet are being sent down the enx i/f which your gateway/router should then forward to the Internet.
[21:01] <fabiansc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router#Enable_IP_forwarding_and_Masquerading
[21:01] <TJ-> fabiansc: why is the RasPi configured to do NAT?
[21:01] <TuH> hallo, jemand da?
[21:02] <fabiansc> TJ-: I set up a Ubuntu MAAS there and have some servers for deployment behind it (home lab)
[21:02] <genewitch> how do i get the dev/devel packages if they're not listed in apt
[21:02] <genewitch> like chrpath and gsl-devel
[21:02] <TJ-> fabiansc: hang on, so currently the MAAS server is active on the raspi too?
[21:02] <TuH> ich habe eine version frage zu linux nixhgt speziell eine bistimmte distribution
[21:02] <fabiansc> i think so
[21:03] <TJ-> genewitch: standard extension is -dev
[21:03] <TuH> oh, is it not a german chat room?
[21:03] <TJ-> !de | TuH
[21:03] <fabiansc> TJ-: but it is not fully booted due to failure of NTP and NetworkMonitor; so its partly up
[21:03] <TuH> :(
[21:03] <genewitch> TJ-: they're not there, even apt search gsl doesn't show a -dev/-devel
[21:04] <TuH> my Englisch is not good but I will try, because i have no linux chat room found
[21:04] <TJ-> !info libgsl-dev | genewitch
[21:04] <TuH> can you help me about a question about version in linux?
[21:04] <TJ-> !info chrpath | genewitch
[21:05] <TJ-> TuH: we can try
[21:05] <TJ-> fabiansc: so I wonder if you've got something applying firewall rules that are interfering on the Pi itself. Check if there are any with "sudo iptables-save"
[21:05] <genewitch> TJ-: i have that installed, but the source still complains "gsl-devel is needed by dieharder-src"
[21:06] <TJ-> genewitch: then the 'source' is looking in the wrong place :)
[21:06] <genewitch> lame
[21:06] <genewitch> i wanted to build it with clang
[21:06] <TJ-> genewitch: "dpkg -L libgsl-dev" will show you where the files are, you can compare that to what you're building
[21:06] <fabiansc> TJ-: any other device just connects via the router and goes online that way. Any idea where to check next?
[21:07] <TJ-> fabiansc: confirm we have no firewall blocking on the Pi first
[21:07] <TJ-> genewitch: whatever you're building might have hard-coded the package name so it doesn't match the Debian naming scheme, instead of using pkg-config
[21:07] <fabiansc> TJ-: no firewall; normally the pi connects via wlan0 easily
[21:08] <TJ-> fabiansc: is your gateway/router configured to do something different for wired connections?
[21:08] <fabiansc> TJ-: For wlan0 it receives a static DHCP ip from my fritzbox; nothing configured there
[21:08] <fabiansc> TJ-: Just DHCP, nothing else (defaults)
[21:08] <TuH> ok i understand so far, linux need >512 MB RAM. older linux version can work with <512 MB RAM and slowe CPU. but a Linux HD TV Reciver hav very slow CPU ~300MHz and need a full linux but the older linux version have no ssl or what ever we have toda for thhps  web sites, so. my question what distribution people install on an HD Reciver?
[21:09] <genewitch> ah i fixed it
[21:09] <genewitch> maybe
[21:09] <genewitch> thanks TJ- i was just approaching it incorrectly
[21:10] <TJ-> fabiansc: let's try altering the default route a bit. remove the current rule, replace it. "sudo ip route del default dev enxb827ebf3bacf" then sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:10] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'm assuming <IP_ADDRESS> /is/ the gateway/router ?
[21:11] <fabiansc> TJ-: <IP_ADDRESS> is the fritbox / router ; BTW I added a static IP for wlan0 and brought it up
[21:11] <tomreyn> TuH: einfach lesen was dir ubottu gesagt hat. in #ubuntu-de gibt's deutschsprachigen support.
[21:11] <TJ-> fabiansc: had wpa_supplicant brought up the Wifi then?
[21:11] <fabiansc> TJ-: but wlan0 is not connected to the SSID yet
[21:12] <fabiansc> TJ-: I used the same commands as for enx... for wlan0
[21:12] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, so allocating an address won't do anything
[21:12] <fabiansc> TJ-: true :)
[21:12] <TJ-> fabiansc: if you've added the new default route rule retry the "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" again
[21:13] <TJ-> fabiansc: if you've added the new default route rule retry the "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" again
[21:13] <TJ-> grrr, me and my typos!
[21:14] <fabiansc> TJ-: I cannot ping <IP_ADDRESS> but I did a nslookup for google and can ping the ip of google
[21:15] <fabiansc> TJ-: I can also ping www.google.com now
[21:15] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, <IP_ADDRESS> isn't correct, I mistyped, meant <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:15] <fabiansc> TJ-: via <IP_ADDRESS> was the solution :)
[21:15] <TJ-> fabiansc: YAY! finally :D :D  ... so now try "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade" --- any problems try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[21:16] <fabiansc> TJ-: takes a while (6 MBit)
[21:16] <TJ-> fabiansc: it works, which is the main thing
[21:17] <fabiansc> TJ-: We are just online; so we can get started to resolve the broken files :P
[21:17] <fabiansc> TJ 139 packages / 200 MB
[21:18] <fabiansc> TJ-: Let me grep some water it will take <= 5 minutes I guess
[21:19] <WorldGenesis[v]> what's the different between 'apt' and 'apt-get' ?
[21:19] <WorldGenesis[v]> difference*
[21:20] <Peyam> hi
[21:21] <Peyam> im trying to install ubuntu. but when the installation is done nothing show up
[21:21] <Peyam> I have the boot secure to legacy support disable and secure boot enable
[21:22] <Peyam> is it correct configurations?
[21:25] <fabiansc> TJ-: dpkg error - AWK not found while processing a firefox update
[21:25] <fabiansc> TJ-: shall I simply go for sudo apt-get -f install or apt-get install awk?
[21:26] <Kumool> you already should have awk
[21:26] <fabiansc> Kumool: I thought so; but apt-get install showed its not installed
[21:27] <Kumool> then install it yes
[21:27] <TJ-> fabiansc: yes try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[21:27] <fabiansc> Kumool: wow dpkg is insane. Many errors processing package python3-update manager "No apportreport writte nbecause ;axReports is reached already2
[21:28] <TJ-> fabiansc: that suggests there's been a lot of problems; ignore that for now if you can
[21:28] <fabiansc> TJ-: giving it a try with -f install now
[21:28] <fabiansc> TJ-: last time that python smashed my raspberry
[21:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: dpkg "No apport report has been written because Max Report is reached already"
[21:29] <TJ-> fabiansc: have you added any 3rd party repositories, PPAs, etc?
[21:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: Just the MAAS
[21:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: doesnt look good. It fails with many dpkg errors
[21:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'm surprised the RasPi is OK as the controller, I tried it and it was very slow and hitting memory ceiling
[21:30] <fabiansc> TJ-: /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: you've got network - can you pastebin the output now?
[21:30] <fabiansc> if you tell me how to do it from console (UI is uinstalled - memory) ;)
[21:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: is 'pastebinit' installed?
[21:30] <fabiansc> TJ-: BTW it is running fluently with MAAS
[21:31] <TJ-> fabiansc: otherwise do this: "script /tmp/problems.log"
[21:31] <fabiansc> TJ-: Here is my step-by-setp setup if you are interested (you also see my face there :P) https://cloud.fas-consulting.de/drupal/page/cloud-computing/metal-service-maas/maas-preparation-sd-card
[21:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: I executed the script; he records something now
[21:32] <TJ-> fabiansc: then do "bash"  then do "sudo apt-get -f install" once it's finished with errors and is back to command line do: "exit" and again "exit" then ...
[21:32] <TJ-> fabiansc:  ... "cat /etc/problems.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:32] <TJ-> fabiansc:  ... "cat /tmp/problems.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: on my way; I just guess you dont want to see it :P
[21:32] <seven07> hey
[21:33] <fabiansc> TJ-: the termbin after the exit, isnt it? :)
[21:33] <TJ-> fabiansc: yes, after TWO exits
[21:34] <TJ-> fabiansc: 'script' starts an 'sh' shell so I always start 'bash' inside it, so have to do the 2 exits to get back
[21:34] <fabiansc> TJ-: yep. I think he is uploadig something
[21:35] <fabiansc> need to install nc first
[21:35] <TJ-> fabiansc: it's not there? that's unusual
[21:35] <fabiansc> TJ-: nc can also not be located via apt-get instal
[21:36] <TJ-> fabiansc: are you sure someone/something hasn't got access to that Pi and basically messed it up?
[21:36] <fabiansc> but the cat said nc is part of netcat-openbsd or netcat-traditional
[21:36] <TJ-> fabiansc: is 'netcat' working instead of 'nc' ?
[21:37] <fabiansc> TJ-: If this happened I hope they also found the honeypot behind it on the lab :P
[21:38] <fabiansc> TJ-: netcat also not available. Maybe uninstalled with some packages during the initial setup?
[21:38] <TJ-> fabiansc: maybe not installed at all, was this an ubuntu-core image originally/
[21:38] <fabiansc> TJ-: getting netcat-traditional
[21:39] <TJ-> fabiansc: OK, getting anything right now would be good! I was about to start giving you the raw bash commands to create a TCP socket and send over that!
[21:39] <fabiansc> TJ-: don't know; never used it.
[21:39] <fabiansc> dpkg failed it due to some postgresqlcommin
[21:39] <fabiansc> TJ-: that dpkg errors block all apt-gets :(
[21:40] <TJ-> fabiansc: yes, it's not helpful.
[21:40] <TJ-> fabiansc: I think you have to work through those dpkg issues one by one
[21:40] <fabiansc> i got w3m installed
[21:40] <fabiansc> does that help somehow?
[21:41] <fabiansc> ah; i got an idea.
[21:41] <TJ-> fabiansc: as in "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:41] <fabiansc> i could sftp with my laptop
[21:42] <fabiansc> TJ-: syntaxError: invalid character in identifier
[21:44] <fabiansc> TJ-: got the file on my laptop
[21:44] <TJ-> fabiansc: the armhf package ?
[21:45] <fabiansc> problem.log
[21:45] <TJ-> fabiansc: oh, the log file! I thought you meant you were going to install the files for the packages via your laptop :)
[21:45] <TJ-> fabiansc: OK so "pastebinit /path/to/problem.log"
[21:45] <fabiansc> https://pastebin.com/BGpWTPgj
[21:46] <fabiansc> TJ-: PSCP helped out :)
[21:47] <TJ-> fabiansc: what the heck!? from line 37 it looks like binary data. I'm pretty sure now you've a bad SDcard issue there
[21:47] <fabiansc> TJ-: BTW: he seem to have found out that we dont have february anymore :)
[21:48] <fabiansc> TJ-: any chance to check if this is really the case?
[21:48] <Peyam> hi
[21:48] <Peyam> anybody please?
[21:49] <xet7> Hi Peyam :D
[21:49] <fabiansc> TJ-: line 37 ff I totally agree, that must be binary data
[21:49] <xet7> Peyam: Please what?
[21:50] <Peyam> I try to install ubuntu on my hp probook
[21:50] <Peyam> but nothing show up
[21:50] <TJ-> fabiansc: it looks like sectors belonging to some key files are now not reading correctly. Does "dmesg" report any I/O errors?
[21:50] <Peyam> when Im done with instalation
[21:50] <fabiansc> TJ-:  Guess what? :)
[21:50] <TJ-> Peyam: we had a similar issue with some HP devices the last few weeks; in most cases the problem is the PC's firmware (UEFI) is hard-coded to only accept Ms Windows boot-loader paths
[21:51] <TJ-> fabiansc: I/O errors?
[21:51] <fabiansc> TJ-: ah wait i typed it incorrectly
[21:51] <Peyam> TJ-: so what do I do now?
[21:51] <fabiansc> TJ-:  it was not found (Typo) ;)
[21:51] <xet7> Peyam: Did you try to install newest Ubuntu? Old Ubuntu versions don't support UEFI at all
[21:51] <Peyam> I try to disable legace and secure boot and all possible options
[21:51] <Peyam> xet7: I
[21:51] <Peyam> I use xubuntu 16.04
[21:51] <Peyam> and im on live disk
[21:52] <xet7> Peyam: 16.04 is 2 years old
[21:52] <fabiansc> TJ-: i put dmesg into a file and searched for "rror" --> 0 hits
[21:52] <xet7> 17.10 is mimimum I use
[21:52] <Peyam> xet7: then which one should I install. I dont have any other usb. can I use it anyway?
[21:52] <TJ-> Peyam: the issue I spent about 4 hours on and we couldn't find a decent workaround. It seems like HP are typing their devices to Windows OS only and making it very difficult for users to install an alternative OS... the OS installs but the firmware boot-loader interferes
[21:53] <Peyam> TJ-: should i now download last version of ubuntu?
[21:54] <fabiansc> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/BWwmhHjn
[21:55] <Peyam> TJ-: is it any way to install latest ubuntu from a disk live that runs xubuntu 16.04?
[21:56] <mcm_> where does wayland write its log files?
[21:56] <mcm_> i can't find anything under /var/log
[21:57] <TJ-> fabiansc: so there **IS** a firewall running!
[21:57] <fabiansc> TJ-: there is?
[21:57] <xet7> Peyam: If I remember correctly I did have newest Xubuntu or Linux Mint installed on HP EliteBook, but I really don't remember what version I was running, and it can be different for HP ProBook. I was unable to install Qubes OS in any way, even workarounds did not help. Those are so difficult hardware.
[21:57] <Peyam> xet7: I try to update the live disk
[21:57] <Peyam> and see if that works
[21:58] <xet7> Peyam: Good luck :)
[21:58] <TJ-> fabiansc: and it has "EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem" so that confirms there was/is FS corruption
[21:58] <Peyam> xet7: can you update a live disk?
[21:58] <Peyam> xet7: I happen to remove windows as well so there are no OS now on my disk
[21:59] <fabiansc> TJ-: Doesn't sound too good. I have an external USB having a SWAP file there.
[21:59] <fabiansc> TJ-: Do you know if the old USB dongle is affected or the SD card?
[21:59] <TJ-> fabiansc: at this point I think you need to shut it down, put the SD-card in another PC, and do some thorough checks - possibly back it up to another device and then blank it with zeros, do a badblock test on it, and re-install
[21:59] <TJ-> fabiansc: mmcblk0 is the SDcard
[22:00] <fabiansc> TJ-: Sad. So basically the SD Card is gone; how did you find that?
[22:00] <fabiansc> TJ-: any line in dmesg?
[22:02] <xet7> Peyam: Having no OS is no problem. You can download Windows 10 iso from https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/software-download/windows10ISO and use WoeUSB to write it to USB stick https://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-using-ubuntu , Windows automatically detects Windows Product Key that is embedded in UEFI
[22:02] <TJ-> fabiansc: no, there is no I/O errors reported which is good, but we know the file-system had to be recovered which tells us there was some detectable corruption. We also saw that the apt-get -f install log had binary data dumped in it which tells us some sectors of some files are not what they should be
[22:03] <Peyam> xet7: I have only one usb and that is the one Im using and talking to
[22:03] <fabiansc> TJ-: Is there a way to keep the system as it is and install it on a new SD? Or do I need to start from scratch with a new SD card?
[22:05] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'd keep the current SD-card as-is for now, get another one, and install and configure the replacement exactly as the current one is. You can do that on your Intel Laptop by using QEMU virtual machine with ARM emulation, or use a chroot and use the binfmt support with qemu-arm-static
[22:05] <fabiansc> TJ-: I had some issues with python in the past and forced a SD check on boot; could this be the reason for the recovery remark?
[22:05] <Peyam> xet7: is it possible to install windows from a ubuntu live disk?
[22:05] <TJ-> fabiansc: possibly, but an fsck is done at boot... the point is it *found errors*
[22:06] <fabiansc> TJ-: if it found than no need for discussions. The setup of a new SD takes approx 1h (not much, as I documented everything - remember my link? :)
[22:07] <fabiansc> TJ-: I am more concerned that Ubuntu MAAS will try to re-install all my VMs in the Lab
[22:07] <TJ-> fabiansc: yes, but you might also need to copy over some (uncorrupted) config files for your MAAS etc
[22:08] <fabiansc> TJ-: Alright. One more question: Any idea how that could happen? Its the 2nd SD card in 1.5 years
[22:08] <fabiansc> The pi was doing a reboot daily. Nothing big except to that
[22:08] <TJ-> fabiansc: wear
[22:10] <TJ-> fabiansc: I had a 32GB Samsung card develop real I/O errors reported in kernel log... I managed to recover the device (not what was on it) via my laptop which has a proper MMC controller on (not a USB-bridge) to write zeros across it, which allowed it's internal firmware to reallocate the bad blocks. Then I ran the 'badblocks' program on it for 2 days and it didn't fail once
[22:10] <xet7> Peyam: How big is your USB stick?
[22:12] <kasper3> in which unit, gbs or inches ;)
[22:12] <fabiansc> TJ-: Got a Macbook air here (running windows; please dont ask why). I think it has a connector; just need to put the SD in an adapter
[22:13] <fabiansc> TJ-: Is it a specific tool to write the zeros on the bad blocks? How did the firmware reallocate the bad blocks? Is the badblocks program on the ubuntu image?
[22:15] <TJ-> fabiansc: 'badblocks' is part of the package e2fsprogs.  Writing zeros to the device? "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblkX bs=256M status=progress" (replace mmcblkX as appropriate)
[22:17] <fabiansc> TJ-: I guess that would simply kill the content of the SD. I guess you want to say: reformat the SD Card and clean the blocks; reinstall afterwards?
[22:17] <fabiansc> TJ-: Means also: all data lost, but the Hardware remains? :)
[22:18] <xet7> Peyam: It could maybe be possible, if Windows 10 iso is downloaded to USB stick, VirtualBox is installed to Ubuntu Live, new VirtualBox VM is made with direct hardware access to harddisk
[22:18] <TJ-> fabiansc: right, which is why I recommend *NOT* wiping it but keeping it as it is and using a new clean SD-card, install into it, then copy the configs across.
[22:18] <TJ-> fabiansc: in my experience you always forget some config item and then find you wiped the thing and can't recover it
[22:18] <xet7> Peyam: But much easier would be if you have USB hub and another USB stick where to write it
[22:19] <fabiansc> TJ-: I got everything documented; no need to copy anything :)
[22:19] <Peyam> xet7: have only 1 usb
[22:19] <TJ-> fabiansc: like key files, databases, configs
[22:19] <xet7> Peyam: How big is your USB stick ?
[22:19] <TJ-> fabiansc: you've got a MAAS config and postgres DB there
[22:19] <genewitch> :-(  -> configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[22:19] <genewitch> uname -m aarch64
[22:20] <Peyam> xet7: 8 g. but it has to be unmounted to make changes on it.
[22:20] <fabiansc> TJ-: yeah but the config took just a few minutes; got it here with screenshots and copy+paste commands anyways (https://cloud.fas-consulting.de/drupal/page/cloud-computing/metal-service-maas)
[22:20] <Peyam> xet7: and if that is unmounted i cant use it
[22:20] <xet7> Peyam: How much RAM is in your laptop?
[22:20] <Peyam> 16
[22:20] <TJ-> fabiansc: OK, I was thinking more about those deployed VMs you have
[22:20] <fabiansc> TJ-: So thanks a lot TJ. I am very impressed by your knowledge. Do you still think someone took over the Pi? Or just corruption? :)
[22:20] <Peyam> xet7: 16
[22:21] <xet7> Peyam: Ok.
[22:21] <TJ-> fabiansc: well, corruption is the more plausible explanation of what we've seen
[22:21] <fabiansc> TJ-: they will be kicked; happens. THey run on an VMware vsphere When the Pi kicks them, i will roll back the snapshot
[22:21] <Peyam> xet7: is it possible to install newest ubuntu then?
[22:21] <fabiansc> TJ-: It was lots of fun finding that out; even thoug I am feeling a bit bad for wasting your time
[22:22] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'm feeling exhausted trying to outthink that RasPi!
[22:22] <xet7> Peyam: Maybe, but I'm thinking how do you write it to USB stick if you already boot from that USB stick
[22:23] <fabiansc> TJ-: so you enjoyed it too? :)
[22:23] <xet7> Peyam: For example in Puppy Linux it's possible to run Puppy totally from RAM, and change another USB stick
[22:23] <xet7> Peyam: For example with XenialPup: http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[22:24] <Peyam> xet7: I would be greateful if you could help me.
[22:24] <fabiansc> TJ-: I am just happy to had Ubuntu MAAS running fluently on the RPI :)
[22:24] <Peyam> so how do I do it
[22:24] <Peyam> xet7:
[22:24] <xet7> Peyam: Do you want to install Linux or Windows?
[22:25] <Peyam> xet7: linux
[22:25] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'm intrigued you got it perform reasonably
[22:25] <fabiansc> TJ-: you can build the same. I even added a VPN Server there (OpenVPN) to run at the same time
[22:25] <TJ-> fabiansc: I'll have to try it again since I have CDUs and other stuff here I want it to control to make power cycling of my kit more centralised
[22:26] <TJ-> I've got a couple of racks of gear which gets switched on/off quite a lot, plus networked serial multiplexers and KVMs. right now I have custom scripts to do the operations
[22:26] <fabiansc> TJ-: you could reach it only via wireless using VPN. It was NATTING the lab to the internet. And everything was felxible to be shifted arround as it is connected via the Pi, which has its uplink via wifi :)
[22:27] <xet7> Peyam: What Linux you have on USB stick?
[22:27] <Peyam> xet7: I have downloaded the 64 bit of that thing
[22:27] <Peyam> xet7: xubuntu 16.04
[22:27] <xet7> Peyam: What have you downloaded?
[22:27] <Peyam> xet7: http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/64/
[22:29] <fabiansc> TJ-: than you should really go for it. I started to integrate some smart home elements (i got many chapters on my blog there; you might use or even improve it)
[22:30] <xet7> Peyam: Download VirtualBox from https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.8/virtualbox-5.2_5.2.8-121009~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb
[22:30] <Peyam> xet7: done
[22:30] <TJ-> fabiansc: I watch the #maas channel and the number of bad-quality code bugs I see there makes me prefer my own solution where I know how to fix it
[22:31] <fabiansc> TJ-: Ubuntu MAAS quality really has huge opportunities...
[22:31] <xet7> Peyam: Install it with: sudo dpkg -i vir..deb
[22:31] <xet7> Peyam: download VirtualBox extension pack from https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.8/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.2.8.vbox-extpack
[22:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: my setup was 4 month on idle to find out, MAAS can only store 3 linux images at the same time. Otherwise some component outside MAAS crashes for no reason
[22:32] <Peyam> xet7: Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:32] <Peyam>  virtualbox-5.2
[22:32] <fabiansc> TJ-: also internet uplink is not supported that way. Wake-on-LAN has been removed, status changes a buggy.