[00:16] <steveubu_> question about maas
[10:07] <roaksoax> rvba: o/
[10:07] <roaksoax> where you able to solve yhr image problem? are we ready to upload?
[10:36] <rvba> roaksoax: we still have bug 1232174. We're in the process of fixing it.
[10:38] <roaksoax> rvba: but you dont need to "fix" that just disable saucy from the config filr and that should be it shouldnt it?
[10:38] <roaksoax> unless we dont support config files
[10:38] <rvba> roaksoax: we could do that, but I assumed you added Saucy in there for a reason :)
[10:38] <roaksoax> aince the saucy info comes from.oublished simple streams
[10:39] <rvba> True, but the simplestreams worked is not yet finished.
[10:39] <rvba> work*
[10:39] <roaksoax> rvba: yeah acott needed to deploy so i woild check wih him to have the simplestreams data and images available
[10:39] <rvba> Okay.
[10:42] <roaksoax> rvba: he did say thr images were on its way and i think the devel sidenof things are already available
[10:42] <roaksoax> just not "releases"
[10:42] <roaksoax> smoser: ^^
[10:43] <roaksoax> anyway im flying home now ttyl
[11:31] <jamespage> allenap, roaksoax (or anyone else): how long does a dhcp lease last in maas dhcp server?
[11:33] <allenap> jamespage: Once the node is allocated, indefinitely.
[11:33] <allenap> jamespage: A static lease is pushed into dhcpd's config.
[12:34] <jamespage> allenap, and for other servers that might dhcp from the maas server? i.e. ones that are not registered?
[12:39] <allenap> jamespage: 30 minutes.
[12:39] <jamespage> allenap, OK _ that should be good then
[12:39] <jamespage> allenap, testing the new lxc container stuff with maas that's in juju-core now
[12:40] <allenap> Cool.
[12:51] <allenap> jamespage: I may have the units wrong: it's 30 *seconds*, which is surprisingly short.
[12:51] <jamespage> allenap, hmm
[12:52] <jamespage> allenap, I saw maas double-allocate an IP to a physical server and an LXC instance
[12:52] <allenap> jamespage: I suspect it's meant to be 30 minutes.
[12:52] <jamespage> which surprised me - I wondered whether maas ran out of IP's
[12:53] <allenap> jamespage: MAAS drive ISC dhcpd, which I'm going to bet tries to not do that sort of thing... unless someone has set a very low lease time.
[12:54] <allenap> jamespage: However:
[12:54] <allenap>  1541 Adam Stokes       2013-08-02 [merge]
[12:54] <allenap>       [r=julian-edwards][bug=][author=adam-stokes] Limit DHCP lease times to 30 seconds for PXE clients.
[12:55] <jamespage> allenap, blimey - I might not actually have that - this is a raring install
[13:01] <allenap> jamespage: I can't find what the default is.
[18:35] <tych0> smoser: (or anyone that knows about kvm/maas): what's the magic i need to do to get maas to understand how to stop a kvm?
[18:36] <tych0> kvm is on localhost, if that makes a difference
[18:36] <smoser> tych0, you have to tell it to use virsh as the power control
[18:36] <smoser> and give it the correct path to virsh.
[18:37] <tych0> is there an api call for that somewhere?
[18:39] <smoser> you could probably use
[18:39] <smoser> register-node in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~virtual-maasers/+junk/maas-libvirt-utils/files
[18:39] <smoser> err.. wait.
[18:39] <smoser> libvirt-domain-to-maas
[18:39] <smoser> that scrapes libvirt and shoves it into maas.
[18:39] <smoser> but you can read it. in the end it just callas
[18:40] <tych0> yep, maas-cli update
[18:40] <tych0> cool
[18:40] <smoser> yeah. that one calls 'new'
[18:40] <tych0> ?
[18:40] <tych0> oh, i see
[18:41] <tych0> so this is for a node that's already installed?
[18:41] <smoser> well, that is fo ra node that exists
[18:41] <smoser> it reads the libvirt and then adds that node to maas.
[18:42] <tych0> ok, i'm pxe booting the node and letting maas enlist/provision it
[18:42] <tych0> i just want maas to be able to start/stop it
[18:42] <tych0> so maas knows about the node, just not how to control it
[18:43] <smoser> right. you can use update.
[18:43] <smoser> or you could just delete the node
[18:43] <smoser> and shove it in with that script
[18:43] <tych0> ok, cool
[18:43] <tych0> i see, $data
[18:43] <tych0> thanks!


[00:48] <slangasek> infinity: how did your no-commit britney test go?
[01:07] <slangasek> sigh; why does libmecab-java not show up on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/mecab-g++5.html ? (libmecab-jni, depends libmecab2 (>= 0.996-1))
[01:22] <doko> infinity, slangasek: any update on icu?
[01:28] <infinity> doko: I'm going to play with it in a bit.  Was trying not to lose context on other things before I did.
[01:28] <infinity> Since I also need to hack around and remind myself how to make britney not promote things.
[01:31] <infinity> Ahh, I can just no-op lp_import
[01:31] <infinity> doko: Okay, will get to icu shortly.
[01:31] <infinity> If it breaks the world, I'll have to revert.  We'll see.
[02:46] <infinity> slangasek: You around?
[03:00] <slangasek> infinity: hi
[03:00] <infinity> slangasek: Hey.  I decided it didn't look TOO broken, but if you could spot-check snakefruit:/home/ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/var/data-b2/output/wily/HeidiResultDelta for sanity?
[03:01] <infinity> slangasek: Ignore the "reomvals", they're informational, but all the other lines are packages it wants to promote after the manual icu move.
[03:02] <infinity> slangasek: Most of it looked vaguely reasonable, though I didn't realize this was also unsticking a mess of haskell in the process.  If it's not meant to, we'be broken something. :P
[03:03] <slangasek> infinity: I don't know the syntax of this file.  bare package+version is new thing promoted?  - is an NBS binary that's dropped?
[03:03] <slangasek> infinity: haskell getting in is an ok outcome
[03:03] <slangasek> it was known to be tied up with icu
[03:03] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, lines starting with '-' can be ignored.
[03:03] <infinity> It's what britney would try to remove if it knew how, but we don't let it. :P
[03:03] <slangasek> ok.  so yeah, that looks reasonable and small
[03:03] <infinity> Kay.
[03:03] <infinity> Letting her loose, then.
[03:04] <infinity> In other news, tbb is a flaming mess.
[03:04] <slangasek> infinity: btw, what's the convention for expiring off "finished" transitions from the tracker? 'cuz we're accumulating a few
[03:05] <infinity> slangasek: Moving them to the finished directory, I believe.  Or deleting.  Whatever you prefer.
[03:05] <slangasek> infinity: right, so 'finished' all is still on the report
[03:05] <slangasek> which makes that page a bit scrolly :)
[03:05] <infinity> slangasek: Ahh, I see what you mean.  Yeah, deleting is fine too, when it's actually finished.
[03:06] <infinity> slangasek: The reason for them being there is the (almost) part, I imagine.
[03:06] <slangasek> hopefully having them marked 'finished' at least saves processing time
[03:06] <infinity> Or just the Debian authors who hate deleting things.
[03:06] <infinity> I suspect finished is still processed.
[03:06] <infinity> Maybe.
[03:06] <infinity> This is so not my code. :)
[03:07] <infinity> Anyhow, when you're sure a transition is actually 100% done, deleting is totally fine, IMO.  History is not even remotely interesting here.
[03:08] <slangasek> except perhaps for the part where nobody running the tracker remembered that the regexps needed to be explicitly word bounded because they were cargo culting from bad examples? ;)
[03:08] <slangasek> but yeah
[03:12] <slangasek> and then we have trackers that are failing to find any packages. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/vpb-driver-g++5.html
[03:18] <infinity> slangasek: Well, cargo-culting can happen from VCS history, the files don't need to live on for that.
[03:20] <infinity> slangasek: So, big britney run happening now.  Should be fun.
[15:23] <tseliot> can an admin please blacklist nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-340xx so that we don't sync it from Debian?
[15:39] <infinity> tseliot: Done.
[15:40] <infinity> tseliot: And needs removing from -proposed, looks like.
[15:53] <tseliot> infinity: thanks. Also, please approve 352 when you can
[16:58] <slangasek> who wrote "jack transition" on http://pad.ubuntu.com/gcc-5-transition for asterisk? pitti?
[21:18] <slangasek> hmm has anyone been tinkering with the transition tracker scripts again?
[21:18] <slangasek> (Laney)
[21:19] <slangasek> I shunted med-fichier off because it was 100% done; now it's less done again
[21:20] <slangasek> maybe ben is getting confused after things transition to wily, hmm
[23:53] <darkxst> can I get gnome-online-accounts 3.16 removed from wily-proposed, doesnt look like we can get around webkit2 requirements


[01:14] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos I have an interview with one of the teams in RedHat on Friday, and one with another team in RedHat early next week.
[01:14] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[01:14] <superfly> inetpro, paddatrapper: ^^
[05:46] <paddatrapper> superfly: that's great news!
[05:47] <superfly> paddatrapper: thanks. They sound really keen to get me in there, and I'm really hoping that it'll work out
[06:36] <chesedo> morning all
[06:37] <chesedo> superfly: sounds promising... which department there are you most interested in (if i may ask)?
[06:39] <Kilos> morning za peeps. great news superfly
[06:39] <Kilos> hi inetpro as well also too
[06:39] <chesedo> morning oom Kilos
[06:39] <Kilos> hi chesedo
[06:40] <Kilos> hi not_found
[06:41] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper andrewlsd smile Squirm Xethron and lurkers
[06:41] <paddatrapper> hi oom Kilos, chesedo
[07:04] <andrewlsd> hi Kilos paddatrapper smile Squirm Xethron chesedo
[07:04] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy
[07:05] <paddatrapper> hi andrewlsd
[07:06] <chesedo> hi paddatrapper andrewlsd
[07:11] <thatgraemeguy> morning all
[07:20] <paddatrapper> morning thatgraemeguy
[07:20] <andrewlsd> \o thatgraemeguy
[07:42] <smile> Good morning :-)
[08:03] <nsnzero> morning guys
[08:05] <nsnzero> some advice - i got another laptop - thinking of install mint 18 kde on it - good or bad ?
[08:45] <smile> mint is always polished :)
[08:47] <nsnzero> hi smil
[08:47] <nsnzero> hi smile
[08:48] <smile> hi :)
[08:49] <smile> this morning, my car decided "let's pretend nothing happened yesterday"
[08:50] <nsnzero> cars sometimes do that
[08:50] <nsnzero> when they need some love and attention
[08:53] <smile> in january my car got love at the garage so it shouldn't complain :)
[08:55] <nsnzero> checking out elementary as well - i want a eye-catching desktop - not productivity just awesome
[08:58] <smile> elementary is awesome, but has some dated packages, just like ubuntu
[08:58] <smile> that's why I'm using Manjaro Linux
[09:01] <nsnzero> smile: kde or xfce desktop ?
[09:02] <smile> I'm using mate, but I used xfce for a long time
[09:02] <smile> I installed mate on top of the xfce edition, in fact
[09:03] <nsnzero> mate is too much like win95 for me
[09:04] <nsnzero> i was checking out windows 10 update plans - it will soon resemble gnome 3
[09:18] <smile> Hehe
[09:29] <nsnzero> conky has some nice themes as well
[09:30] <nsnzero> nothing more eye catching than countless stats on your desktop
[12:09] <inetpro> oh my, what's the time?
[12:09] <inetpro> good mornings Kilos
[12:09] <inetpro> and hi everyone else also
[12:36] <Kilos> hi there inetpro raining here again, on and off
[12:42] <andrewlsd> ola inetpro
[12:44] <superfly> inetpro: at the time you were asking, 5:09am
[12:45] <inetpro> haha, good mornings superfly, why wake up so early? :-)
[12:46] <superfly> kiddo woke me up at 4, I can't get back to sleep
[12:47] <superfly> chesedo: the interview on Friday is with the quality engineering team, so they write and run tests
[12:48] <superfly> chesedo: I don't know what the other department is yet, but it will be something similar most likely
[12:49] <superfly> Honestly, the exact type of job doesn't matter,  I know it's a great company to work for, so getting anything there will be good
[12:50] <andrewlsd> hey superfly :-D
[12:53] <superfly> Yo andrewlsd
[12:56] <Kilos> hi superfly good luck with everything you do sir
[12:56] <superfly> Thanks Kilos
[13:04] <andrewlsd> It is seriously warm in CPT today. My sweat is sweating.
[13:05] <chesedo> morning superfly
[13:05] <chesedo> it is so cold in Prt that one would expect snow any minute :P
[13:09] <Kilos> ai! now ssl isnt good enough you gotta do sasl as well on freenode
[13:09] <superfly> This was us yesterday: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ1bCgIl_uI/
[13:09] <Kilos> https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication
[13:10] <Kilos> snow is for penguins and walrusses superfly
[13:10] <Kilos> and seals
[13:10] <Kilos> and polar bears
[13:11] <superfly> andrewlsd: it is winter here and I'm walking around in short sleeves.
[13:11] <Kilos> eek
[13:11] <superfly> Kilos: we had to drive up into the mountains to get to the snow
[13:12] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[13:12] <magespawn> hi there
[13:12] <Kilos> temp superfly ?
[13:12] <Kilos> wbb
[13:14] <superfly> Hi magespawn
[13:17] <magespawn> hey superfly, mountains are cool, especially when they have snow on them.
[13:18] <superfly> magespawn: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ1bCgIl_uI/
[13:18] <magespawn> new pc setup with ubuntu
[13:20] <magespawn> that looks like something out of frozen
[13:20] <superfly> So, if I get this job with RedHat, I'll penally by myself the Dell XPS Developer Edition
[13:21] <superfly> *probably
[13:21] <superfly> Stupid autocarrot
[13:21] <superfly> *buy
[13:23] <magespawn> that sounds pretty cool superfly
[13:25] <superfly> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_nav=OS_BRAND%3DUBUNT&3x_page=1&filterCollapsed=true
[13:25] <superfly> It's expensive, but it will be an investment
[13:40] <paddatrapper> Su
[13:41] <paddatrapper> superfly: and run Fedora on it? :p
[13:45] <magespawn> nice the 13 inch?
[13:48] <superfly> paddatrapper: I haven't decided yet
[13:50] <magespawn> i was daydreaming about these http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/envy---omen/spectre-x360-211501--1
[13:50] <superfly> paddatrapper: I might install Debian and then run a Fedora VM if necessary
[14:38] <inetpro> Kilos: I do think we got you to use SASL long ago already
[14:42] <magespawn> superfly: if you do get the redhat job, what would you be doing there?
[14:52] <superfly> It depends on the position, but likely something devops
[14:53] <Kilos> oh my inetpro all i used was ssl
[14:53] <Kilos> anyway i have got there at last
[15:12] <magespawn> superfly cool beans
[16:41] <magespawn> right I am out of here. chat later all
[19:23] <paddatrapper> superfly: the snow looks like great fun!
[19:25] <superfly> paddatrapper: up until your fingers are in absolute agony because of how cold they are
[19:25] <superfly> dude, it is COLD
[19:25] <paddatrapper> Haha. I know! I realised that after I soaked my gloves for the first time
[19:29] <nsnzero> hi all