[10:42] <klattimer> kenvandine: what's the status on that tomboy release?
[12:33] <kenvandine> klattimer, uploaded, in the SRU queue
[12:33] <klattimer> awesomes :D
[13:05] <thorwil> ivanka: are you in a position where you could make an mpt appear in #ubuntu-meeting? ^^
[13:07] <ivanka> thorwil: sadly not - we are in Orlando. I think he thinks the meeting is at 9am our time which is in an hour
[13:07] <thorwil> ivanka: heh, thanks
[18:26] <sense> The continuous advertisement of Tomboy's 'Ubuntu-clean' PPA in a high-profile bug is getting annoying.
[18:34] <kenvandine> sense, yeah... the fix is in maverick-proposed now
[18:34] <sense> kenvandine: I saw that! Good it is fixed now!
[18:51] <vish> sense ¦ well, his comment in reply to seb128 did make sense though ;) [two codepaths]
[18:51] <sense> vish: Agreed, but he keeps repeating things a bit too much. It is a bug report, not a forum thread.


[02:51] <Bashing-om> Well, that is it for me - yall handle it without me . Be back tomorrow :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the travelmate was too old, it only took xp
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:00] <daftykins> \o
[10:02] <lordievader> Hey daftykins, how are you?
[10:02] <daftykins> i'm very good thanks, just received a replacement motherboard so having fun reassembling my old core 2 quad desktop :) how're you doing today?
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:08] <daftykins> hey hey \o
[10:10] <lordievader> daftykins: Ah, nice. I'm going to update the kernel of my vm's :)
[10:11] <daftykins> ^_^
[10:11] <daftykins> oh that's a point, digitalocean said they'd have the 3.13 -91 out today
[10:15]  * lordievader is upgrading to 4.6.3 from git.
[10:18]  * daftykins pats LTS
[10:21] <lordievader> Couple of the vms still run Trusty...
[10:23] <daftykins> can't see the point in running such recent kernels then :)
[10:29] <lordievader> It is fun to configure them ;)
[10:29] <lordievader> And it keeps the versions more in line across the devices.
[13:16] <pauljw> hi everyone
[20:38] <nacc> is it just me or is this not the first time maddawg2 has come into #ubuntu all hot and bothered only for it to be PEBKAC?
[20:40] <Ben64> came in real hot
[20:40] <nacc> heh
[20:40] <DArqueBishop> Things have changed in a Linux release? OMG!
[20:41] <Ben64> ubuntu sucks!
[20:41] <Ben64> *table flip*
[20:42] <nacc> poor table
[20:42] <Ben64> i've been seeing a lot of ubuntu sucks lately
[20:45] <nacc> a lot of articles (VPS ones) seem to have told their users to upgrade to 16.04
[20:45] <nacc> which was a bad decision, as 16.04.1 will be (based upon the amount of bugs i've closed alone :) significantly better
[20:45] <daftykins> :)
[20:45] <daftykins> plus direct upgrades are only enabled then
[20:46] <nacc> right, so they have been telling their users to use -d
[20:46] <nacc> i'm mostly worried about those users reading those articles once yakkety opens
[20:46] <nacc> may already be true
[20:48] <daftykins> yeah should be taking them to 16.10 already
[20:48] <daftykins> so much bad advice out there
[20:48] <nacc> daftykins: yeah, it's almost reaosonable at some point (if you want to test, do this), but written like static fact and then never updated (afaict)
[20:53] <Ben64> http://ben64.com/ubuntusucks.png
[20:53] <Ben64> based on #ubuntu chat logs
[20:54] <nacc> heh, it looks awesomely cyclical with LTS releases
[20:55] <nacc> as in, i'm guessing those blogs did the same thing for 12.04 -> 14.04 :)
[20:55] <Ben64> need a larger sample for sure
[20:56] <Ben64> i'd guess that peak suckiness would be around november 2007
[20:57] <nacc> progress! :)
[20:57] <Ben64> 7.10 was horrible on my system, everything was broken all the time, it's what made me go LTS only
[20:57] <nacc> yeah, i recall similar experiences (but just reinstalled most of my systems with 8.04, iirc)
[21:24] <daftykins> using server only VMs sure helps my opinion XD
[21:24] <daftykins> that and i don't believe in upgrades
[21:35] <nacc> daftykins: heh


[03:20] <dupingping> 你们好。
[03:22] <dupingping> How can i join ubuntu kylin?
[03:22] <dupingping> there is no man?
[03:23] <dupingping> all were died?
[03:24] <maclin1> dupingping: 你好，你对哪部分工作感兴趣？
[03:25] <dupingping> 您看一下， apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/ubuntu-dock/
[03:25] <maclin1> dupingping: 很多人可能都忙着手头工作呢
[03:26] <dupingping> 这个软件是我的。
[03:27] <dupingping> 我有能力。
[03:27] <maclin1> 不好意思，我这网络不好，还没打开。
[03:27] <maclin1> 你有什么想法？
[03:28] <maclin1> 你是找工作还是希望加入社区？
[03:28] <dupingping> my ibus is died now.
[03:28] <dupingping> Can we speak in english now?
[03:29] <dupingping> kylin is china government os, right?
[03:29] <dupingping> maclin1, yes.
[03:29] <maclin1> 我用的fcitx，中文输入挺好的，你可以试试
[03:30] <dupingping> 我是找工作
[03:31] <maclin1><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:32] <dupingping> 谢谢你的帮组。
[03:33] <dupingping> 再见
[03:33] <maclin1> 不客气，欢迎交流，这里通常都是进行技术交流^_^
[03:34] <dupingping> ：）
[08:51] <ypwong> dupingping, screenshot looks good, too bad it's proprietary so i can't test it out
[08:52] <dupingping> ypwong, I need to get enough budget to open this source and continue to develop it.
[08:53] <dupingping> ypwong, If someone fund me to get enough budget, i'll open it as soon.
[08:53] <ypwong> dupingping, how much is enough?
[08:54] <dupingping> $5000
[08:54] <dupingping> ypwong, it's big you guess?
[08:57] <ypwong> dupingping, not small :)
[08:58] <dupingping> yes, i think so. it's big for any one. but if he fund with some others, it's not big i think.
[08:58] <dupingping> I think that it's a kind of donate.
[09:06] <dupingping> please look forward, https://pledgie.com/campaigns/28502
[09:06] <dupingping> ypwong, !
[09:17] <ypwong> dupingping, it looks nice!
[09:17] <dupingping> yes, ypwong.
[09:17] <ypwong> dupingping, try to promote it
[09:17] <dupingping> ypwong, do you have any community?
[09:17] <ypwong> not really
[09:18] <dupingping> ypwong, how can i promote it?
[09:18] <dupingping> ypwong, i don't know how/
[09:19] <ypwong> talk to omg ubuntu?
[09:19] <ypwong> they like to report new apps
[09:19] <ypwong> and also some ubuntu sites in china
[09:19] <dupingping> can you let me know the urls?
[09:20] <ypwong> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[09:20] <dupingping> ypwong, do you know Mark Shuttleworth? or Jane Silber?
[09:21] <ypwong> met them before
[09:23] <dupingping> ypwong, are you working in Canonical?
[09:26] <ypwong> yes i am
[09:26] <dupingping> oh, ypwong. I think that Mark Shuttleworth is a hero.


[01:06] <twb> cjwatson: ping?
[01:06] <twb> So I am netbooting the 8.04 and 8.04.1 desktop i386 images, basically unmodified.  And while the former works, the latter completely explodes and dies -- gdm doesn't start, and the tty1-6 upstart events are disabled because they restart too frequently.
[01:06] <twb> I get "user not known to underlying authentication system" or similar -- presumably in reference to the "ubuntu" user that casper tries to create on boot.
[01:07] <cjwatson> twb: it's 1am and I'm about to go to bed - I don't think I should attempt to dive into this now
[01:07] <twb> OK, no worries.
[01:07] <cjwatson> twb: try to extract /var/log/casper.log if you can
[01:07] <twb> cjwatson: when do you next expect to be pester-able?
[01:08] <cjwatson> twb: may have to play about a bit to boot into something where you can get hold of that - maybe try booting with 'single' on the command line?
[01:08] <cjwatson> that should get you into an environment where you can check if the user actually exists, too
[01:08] <twb> Yeah, I'm about to seriously attack this.
[01:08] <cjwatson> twb: for various personal reasons I can't give you a reliable time at the moment
[01:08] <twb> No problem.
[01:09] <cjwatson> asynchronous methods are best - feel free to send me / ubuntu-installer@lists mail
[01:09] <twb> OK..
[01:33] <twb> OK, I just realized there are TWO casper.logs -- after unionfsization, there's a second one in /var/log
[01:33] <twb> It says "sudo: no passwd entry for ubuntu!"
[01:34] <twb> groupdel: group ubuntu does not exist
[01:34] <twb> adduser: `groupdel ubuntu' returned error code 6.  Exiting.
[02:34] <CIA-2> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1001 ubuntu/ (build/Makefile debian/changelog): Apply Ubuntu branding to version.info.
[02:55] <twb> Problem solved.  Some jackass had set umask 077 in /etc/profile on the server, so the netboot dir was being created readable and executable by root, but not by anyone else.
[06:12] <CarlFK> twb: does 8.10 netboot for you?
[06:20] <twb> I've no idea.
[06:20] <twb> Since these systems are deployed to secure facilities, we generally stick to LTS.
[08:50] <evand> davmor2: re USB> Yes, that would be a big help.
[08:50] <evand> I just need to confirm that Wubi from a usb-creator generated USB disk works
[08:51] <evand> need someone* (I don't have a Windows VM)
[08:51] <davmor2> No Probs I'll hit it in a bit then need to take the mother-in-law to the docs first :)
[08:52] <evand> sure thing.  Thanks!
[08:52] <twb> davmor2: to the docks?
[08:52] <twb> davmor2: are you gonna make her sleep with the fishies?
[09:02] <cjwatson> davmor2: pretty sure I fixed your grub installation problem of the other day, by the way, once I figured out how to trigger it myself
[09:02] <soren> win 4
[09:02] <soren> gah..
[10:35] <evand> ah, I take back what I said yesterday.  It was a broken version of partman-auto sitting in my local archive causing trouble.
[11:03] <CIA-2> ubiquity: evand * r2952 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.install-any): Install check-missing-firmware as part of hw-detect.
[12:12] <evand> hrm, jaunty grub is segfaulting
[12:21] <davmor2> cjwatson: evand: Right back :)
[12:28] <davmor2> evand: Are you wanting the usb testing on hardy.2 or intrepid?
[12:29] <evand> intrepid please
[12:35] <evand> hrm, it happens with intrepid's grub in a jaunty live CD as well
[12:36] <davmor2> cjwatson: Was the issue that grub was writing to boot but not to mbr?
[12:43] <davmor2> evand right firing up windows fingers crosseed
[12:43]  * evand crosses his fingers
[12:44] <davmor2> installing
[12:46] <davmor2> evand: bugger it's downloading the files
[12:46] <davmor2> but wubi and umenu work okay
[12:47] <evand> downloading the files?  It doesn't detect the USB disk as a source then?
[12:47] <davmor2> That's what I'm assuming yes
[12:48] <evand> if you start wubi and click on the desktop environment drop down list, is there more than just Ubuntu in there?
[12:48] <davmor2> I'll let it complete anyway
[12:48] <davmor2> hang on
[12:49] <davmor2> Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Mythbuntu are listed
[12:50] <evand> yup, doesn't see it as a source
[12:50] <evand> err
[12:50] <evand> right, doesn't see the USB disk as a source
[12:51] <evand> I'll file a bug
[12:51] <evand> thanks for your help
[12:52] <davmor2> evand: Np's
[16:02] <cjwatson> davmor2: yeah, it was a side-effect of it misdetecting the system as using SATA RAID
[16:02] <cjwatson> davmor2: which was due to a change in dmraid's output format
[16:36] <CIA-2> console-setup: cjwatson * r84 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog console-setup.templates):
[16:36] <CIA-2> console-setup: Default console-setup/ask_detect to false, since it's hard to back up
[16:36] <CIA-2> console-setup: out of the detection widget once you've entered it.
[16:38] <cjwatson> Haegin: you're running into bug 18225. The simple workaround is to set mirror/country to "manual" rather than to "IE"
[16:40] <Haegin> cjwatson: ah, thanks, if i set it to manual will i have to select the country manually? i am aiming for a completely automated install
[16:40] <cjwatson> no, when preseeding "manual" effectively just means that you can set it using mirror/http/hostname and mirror/http/directory as you're trying to do
[16:40] <cjwatson> if you select "manual" in an interactive installation, that causes it to ask the hostname and directory questions - but preseeding them skips that
[16:45] <Haegin> awesome, that seems to have worked
[16:46] <Haegin> now i am getting the keyboard choice dialog coming up again but i blame that on me changing the netboot install thing i am using to the correct set of files for intrepid
[16:50] <CIA-2> console-setup: cjwatson * r85 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu2
[16:50] <cjwatson> Haegin: you're using Debian-style keyboard preseeding rather than Ubuntu-style (I guess you're reading the wrong documentation) and furthermore you need to set keyboard preseeding on the kernel command line rather than in a preseed file (unless you're using initrd preseeding)
[16:51] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r66 usb-creator/usbcreator/gtk_frontend.py: Fix a grammatical typo in the GTK frontend.
[16:54] <Haegin> cjwatson: ah yes, got it now thanks. do you know how i can get rid of the encrypted home dir dialog and the auto update dialog?
[17:03] <cjwatson> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html already documents the second (search for "Policy for applying updates"
[17:03] <cjwatson> )
[17:04] <cjwatson> I forgot to document the first in time for 8.10 (it's in the jaunty guide): 'd-i user-setup/encrypted-private boolean false'
[17:12] <Haegin> thanks again
[17:25] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r67 usb-creator/debian/changelog: Correct grammatical typo in the GTK frontend (LP: #297569).
[17:29] <Haegin> just out of interest is it possible to automatically run an oem install from netboot?
[17:30] <cjwatson> well, the first stage yes, obviously not counting the end-user configuration step
[17:31] <cjwatson> oem-config/enable=true on the kernel command line, plus 'd-i oem-config-udeb/instructions seen true'
[17:33] <Haegin> thanks cjwatson
[17:37] <Haegin> cjwatson: sorry to keep asking questions but is it possible for the installer to turn the pc off after the end of the install rather than reboot?
[17:45] <Haegin> is the debian-installer/exit/poweroff boolean true option still valid in ubuntu?
[17:48] <cjwatson> Haegin: "still"? it's a very recent option and only exists in jaunty
[17:49] <cjwatson> added by me in response to another user's question in this channel
[17:49] <cjwatson> so not in <=8.10, I'm afraid
[17:50] <Haegin> cjwatson: ah ok, i figured it was a debian option. thanks
[17:51]  * Haegin ponders how stable jaunty is then decides that selling jaunty machines isn't a good idea
[18:04] <cjwatson> I wouldn't recommend it :)
[18:10]  * evand tries to get the upper hand on Haegin by selling Jaunty+1 machines.
[18:35] <evand> cjwatson: Isn't bug 92014 really a bug in libata?  As far as I can tell, there's really no way to discern a SCSI block device from a SATA one.
[18:36] <evand> Even HAL sees the storage.bus (somewhat rightly) as scsi.  I suspect this is something that need to be fixed further up the chain.
[18:37] <evand> Though I also suspect this has been discussed before, and am really just looking for a better understanding of the problem :)
[18:43] <cjwatson> evand: the bug is in the description used by partman-base; /dev/sd* realistically should no longer be described as exclusively SCSI
[18:45] <cjwatson> I don't think we can expect libata to change
[18:47] <evand> Any idea if the kernel could expose an extra bit in /sys/block to allow userspace to discern between SCSI and SATA?
[18:47] <cjwatson> sounds feasible but I don't know ...
[18:49] <evand> ok, thanks for explanation.  I'll ask in -kernel whether it's feasible and if someone with familiarity in that subsystem has the time and willingness to try to get it upstream.
[19:04] <cjwatson> I think it'd be useful to say, but if we can't, then it would be better to be less specific rather than being more specific but possibly wrong :-)
[19:04] <cjwatson> "SCSI/SATA" wouldn't be that bad I guess
[19:05] <cjwatson> if you do change it, send it to debian-boot@ so we can get translations updated in sync if possible
[19:05] <evand> noted, thanks


[02:49] <sarnold> I'm curious if Guest7437 is blei engaging in some ban evasion -- does anyone happen to have notes on blei's ip? :)
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> I can get it, I have logs.
[02:55] <sarnold> thanks
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> sarnold: Nevermind, he was cloaked.
[02:56] <sarnold> yeah, I was hoping someone with Magic Powers would have it ;)
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> That would be el or Unit193 (blatent pings XD )
[02:57] <Unit193> I'm not sharing anything I can get with super powers, sorry.
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, obviously.
[02:58] <Eickmeyer> Determine the ban evasion for youself, and do what you want with the info, basically.
[02:59] <Unit193> Heh, grep shows a lot of German. :P
[02:59] <sarnold> just wait until you get to the norwegian :)
[03:00] <Unit193> #libera.2022-02-13.log.xz:19:06:13 blei [blei] ([https://web.libera.chat] blei) (~blei@2601:280:c001:c2b0:3dfa:d8b:2346:5cd2) has joined #libera
[03:01] <Unit193><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:01] <Eickmeyer> Colorado?
[03:01] <sarnold> <IP_ADDRESS> is a vultr
[03:02] <Unit193> Yep.
[03:02] <sarnold> so he burned a buck to annoy oerheks, annoy a new user, and send me a few whiny PMs. heh.
[03:03] <sarnold> *cough* I wonder if vultr's cidrs are mandatory sasl blocks or not :)
[03:03] <sarnold> though if i know this guy, he'll be more likely to wait a few more hours before doing it again
[03:04] <Eickmeyer> I wonder how far he'll go to earn himself a K-line for harassment.
[03:04] <sarnold> if there was clear evidence of ban evasion today, that might have been enough
[03:05] <sarnold> what he did in channel and sent me privmsg probably not
[03:05] <sarnold> here's hoping he takes my advice and does something useful with his life :)
[03:06] <sarnold> funny enough, it's time for me to go do the opposite: youtube :) have a good night, good weekend :)
[03:06] <Eickmeyer> Have fun. o
[03:06] <Eickmeyer> o/
[03:06] <sarnold> thanks
[03:07] <Unit193> Hah. :D  G'nighty.


[07:15] <brli> how can I seperate unity-appmenubar support into a stand alone plugin/extention?
[07:16] <brli> or is it possible that I make use of it for different channel or the package from mozilla.org


[01:56] <xnox> Laney: Klout thinks my name is ??????? ??????.
[01:56]  * xnox loves having my name in UTF-8 on facebook and all APIs getting it wrong.
[02:08] <daftykins> popey: ty sir!
[02:08] <Oli> Why is nobody asleep?
[02:14] <daftykins> Oli: i;m just in from the pub
[02:14] <daftykins> which is why i can;t seem to hit apostrophe successfully =|
[02:14] <daftykins> '''''
[02:14] <daftykins> fs
[02:14] <Oli> On a school night? Whatever will the neighbours say?
[02:15] <daftykins> i threw caution to the wind long ago
[04:53] <MartijnVdS> Pangolins! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzKFeAge3o4
[07:40] <SuperMatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1158163, well there's my contribution to this cycle
[07:48] <popey> it was already fixed SuperMatt
[07:49] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/JXdSmjCzw9L
[08:04] <redtape-renegade> just thought of a great idea for a program called "Advert Maker".
[08:05] <redtape-renegade> morning guys.
[08:06] <popey> morning
[08:07]  * redtape-renegade writes the idea down in his "poss. programs 4 linux" before Sky steals it.
[08:10] <popey> MartijnVdS: she's _adorable_
[08:11]  * popey clicks subscribe
[08:13] <redtape-renegade> popey, looks quite frosty in yar garden today.  I'll google .weather ..
[08:15] <redtape-renegade> http://goo.gl/Kxl17
[08:16] <redtape-renegade> or.....
[08:16] <redtape-renegade> Farnham, United Kingdom: Mostly Cloudy, 38.5 F (3.6 C), 30.01(0), Feels Like: 35 F (2 C), From the NE at 4.6 MPH Gusting to 4.6 MPH - Last Updated on March 21, 8:13 AM GMT http://goo.gl/sY2GA
[08:16] <popey> no frost.. http://popey.com/webcam/
[08:16] <redtape-renegade> popey, but the green grass looks white to me >?
[08:18] <popey> the webcam is low quality and everything has an odd tint
[08:19] <redtape-renegade> ok , ok then.
[08:19] <AlanBell> webcam has infrared sensors which are greyscale and that gets combined with the RGB visible light sensors
[08:19]  * redtape-renegade has coffee with some condensed milk  ...
[08:19] <AlanBell> http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/pad is also a bit white for the grass
[08:20] <AlanBell> and the fence needs fixing
[08:20] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell, I'll have a look in 23.5 mins.
[08:20] <popey> hey AlanBell when you going to make my camera do that stuff? ☺
[08:22] <redtape-renegade> .. and my wunderstation ?
[08:28] <redtape-renegade> Well, todays different.
[08:29] <redtape-renegade> I've just spent 5 mins in a heated discussion/barter to buy a park bench for £19GBP  ... and he was Bulgarian.
[08:30] <redtape-renegade> First a mob of chaffinches .. then Uncle Bulgaia at the door, what next ?
[08:30] <redtape-renegade> **Bulgaria
[08:32] <redtape-renegade> Soz **Great Uncle Bulgaria  ..nice chappy.
[08:32] <redtape-renegade> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombles#Known_Wombles
[08:33] <AlanBell> popey: https://launchpad.net/camcontrol
[08:34] <AlanBell> camcontrol.py needs to be put on a webserver with mod_python
[08:34] <popey> ooh!
[08:34] <AlanBell> I might add the bits to let it be called from the command line
[08:35] <AlanBell> it basically pokes at decoder_control.cgi on the camera for you
[08:35] <popey> "This is messy"
[08:36] <AlanBell> it is
[08:43] <popey> thanks AlanBell, will play with that later
[08:47] <redtape-renegade> ********************************************************************************************************4
[08:47] <redtape-renegade> whoopsie .. put the netbook on the keyboard , soz
[08:48] <redtape-renegade> leaves.
[09:00] <SuperMatt> popey: when did that happen?
[09:02] <redtape-renegade> I've found a good site to test Midori  video's , today :: http://www.topacousticsongs.com/videos/archive-2/
[09:02] <redtape-renegade> What will you be doing
[09:03] <redtape-renegade> ^ > ?
[09:03] <SuperMatt> popey: ah, I see the issue! the lock button now needs to be moved to the other side
[09:03] <Laney> xnox: to be fair, that's what my brain does when it sees your name too :P
[09:09] <JamesTait> Happy World Down Syndrome Day, everyone! :-D
[09:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> Just installed Google Keep on my S3 and looked at it in my Drive account. Don't think the Drive end is quite ready yet.
[09:12] <redtape-renegade> JamesTait, Where do you get these "days", /again/  ??
[09:12] <JamesTait> redtape-renegade, wikipedia, mostly, though I knew about this one from other sources.
[09:13] <redtape-renegade> JamesTait, I asked forwebLinks, .. ??
[09:14] <JamesTait> redtape-renegade, http://www.worlddownsyndromeday.org/
[09:14] <redtape-renegade> thank-you.
[09:16] <JamesTait> redtape-renegade, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_21 for a list of others.
[09:18] <popey> SuperMatt: no
[09:19] <TheOpenSourcerer> Loved the news about Voyager 1 yesterday. Even though it hasn't really left the Solar System, the fascinating comment to me was "The next time the craft comes anywhere close to another star will be in 40,000 years" Just wow.
[09:19] <popey> SuperMatt: logout and shutdown are on the right, lock and restart on the left
[09:35] <SuperMatt> but I feel that lock should be on the right instead of logout
[09:36] <popey> why?
[09:36] <SuperMatt> I think people use lock a lot more, and because of the reason I've mentioned in my bug
[09:36] <popey> if you chose "Log out" from the menu (which is what it's called"
[09:36] <SuperMatt> I see what you mean
[09:36] <popey> people don't use lock from that menu IMO
[09:36] <SuperMatt> but I'm lookin at in terms of intention
[09:37] <popey> whats the intention?
[09:37] <popey> lock or logout?
[09:37] <SuperMatt> the intent of shutdown is to walk away from your PC (most of the time), and that is also true of lock
[09:37] <popey> if lock then you choose lock from the menu and it instantly locks
[09:37] <popey> if you want to logout, choose logout
[09:37] <SuperMatt> oh dang, I didn't spot that
[09:37] <SuperMatt> you're right
[09:37] <SuperMatt> for some reason I thought that lock button had disappeared
[09:38] <ProfFalken> morning all :)
[09:38] <ProfFalken> long time no see... :)
[09:38] <popey> i dont think I've ever used that menu item
[09:38] <popey> Ctrl+Alt+L is what I always use
[09:38] <SuperMatt> I don't either
[09:38] <popey> people vary though
[09:38] <ProfFalken> I've got an issue with my graphics card (intel sandybridge built-in) on my laptop (acer aspire s3)
[09:39] <redtape-renegade> On my Log Out menu it says " Save session for future logins" in Xubuntu .. what does that do popey, SuperMatt ??
[09:39] <ProfFalken> I'm running quantal, I botched up the install of a new kernel by removing the wrrong initrd when trying to free up space in /boot
[09:39] <ProfFalken> and now I'm stuck with my resolution at 1024x768 and can't modprobe i915 because it doesn't exist
[09:39] <ProfFalken> can anyone help?
[09:39] <popey> redtape-renegade: i dont use xubuntu, but I suspect it tries to build a list of what's running and restart those apps when you log back in
[09:40] <popey> ProfFalken: reinstall the kernel?
[09:40] <redtape-renegade> popey, Right, I will give it a go :)
[09:40] <popey> ProfFalken: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[09:40] <ProfFalken> oooh, have't tried the generic one, re-installed using linux-image-$(uname -r)...
[09:40]  * ProfFalken tries it...
[09:41] <popey> generic is a metapackage
[09:41] <popey> will pull in the right linux-image-x.y.z
[09:43]  * ProfFalken reboots to try it...
[09:45] <ProfFalken> popey: you is a star! that works really well, thanks :)
[09:47] <popey> yay
[10:03] <smittix> Morning all
[10:27] <redtape-renegade> OOh The window cleaners are around :| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0E7IFM3GJc
[10:27] <kvarley> Can I "cp *" but exclude "Thumbs.db" ?
[10:28] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:29] <redtape-renegade> brobostigon, Morning..
[10:29] <brobostigon> morning redtape-renegade
[10:30] <redtape-renegade> brobostigon, OT| Why do window cleaners only take cash ??
[10:30] <brobostigon> not a clue.
[10:37] <popey> ours doesnt
[10:43] <popey> directhex: hmvgrimsby didn't last long...
[10:46] <fill_> quit
[11:19] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:19] <popey> correct
[11:19] <davmor2> czajkowski: PROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just cause
[11:20] <redtape-renegade> popey, skype isn't in the software centre how do I install the package, again ?
[11:20] <czajkowski> davmor2: gee thanks
[11:20] <popey> !skype
[11:23] <czajkowski> davmor2: how was the lug meet up
[11:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: I know you've missed them, I just didn't want you feeling unappreciated
[11:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: pretty good fun to be honest needed it
[11:24] <czajkowski> \o/
[11:24]  * czajkowski cannot wait for friday 18:00 to come
[11:24] <czajkowski> I may fire my laptop into the garden
[11:24] <czajkowski> :)
[11:25] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, Why's that [fri @ 6pm] ??
[11:25] <Laney> no more VMs for a whole two days
[11:25] <Laney> why is the experience so bad?
[11:26] <czajkowski> Laney: bingo
[11:27] <davmor2> Laney: czajkowski is on an ultrabook
[11:27]  * czajkowski goes back to doing peer reviews
[11:27] <davmor2> czajkowski: oh by the way there may be a fix in precise 32 too now
[11:29] <Laney> ohhhh I need to select my peers
[11:30] <redtape-renegade> I thnk Amber Graner feels the brunt of it, thou [VM] | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1wVYZ7Md7qNvMnLraQIJeQ
[11:32] <davmor2> Laney: Oh yes yes you do
[11:42] <Laney> oh no!
[13:26] <kvarley> IIS is so annoying
[13:26] <kvarley> Responds rapidly for the first few seconds then lags massively
[14:09] <redtape-renegade> Columbian Coffee and Condensed Milk (1/2 fat) in a mega mug : Does it get any better at two'sies ?
[14:09] <redtape-renegade> dwatkins, Ping
[14:11] <davmor2> bigcalm: so how is onenote web for you?
[14:11] <kvarley> Wish my Uni were running Linux servers
[14:11] <kvarley> Having such a nightmare with IIS
[14:18] <bigcalm> davmor2: it seems to be working. Thanks for reminding me about it
[14:18] <davmor2> bigcalm: no worries and does it do everything you need so you don't need ms?
[14:19] <bigcalm> davmor2: so far. I've only used OneNote for 3 days, so have no idea if it gives all of the features that I 'need'. I still have my windows server to hand though
[14:47] <Artful> hey there, anyone  here using gma 3600 driver successfully?
[14:49] <Artful> I bought a netbook and it's unfortunately got gma 3600 gfx hardware, which is intel / powervr closed source and I'm having a nightmare getting it working under linux
[14:50] <Artful> ubuntu runs ok, it's just using gma 500 driver and everything is really slow
[14:51] <popey> you may be out of luck.
[14:51] <popey> i dont think anything has moved on that powervr driver
[14:52] <Artful> :-(  there were some packages put in 12.04 multi but I couldn't even get those to work
[14:52] <directhex> poulsbo? give up.
[14:53] <Artful> i'm running 13.04, at least the screen is bright
[14:54] <Artful> I even tried the MeeGo distro to get the drivers working, but didn't like the OS at all
[14:55] <Artful> lol @ give up, this is a new netbook I've bought
[14:56] <kvarley> What tools can I use to upload to a heavy loaded FTP server?
[14:56] <kvarley> It's running IIS
[14:56] <kvarley> It keeps corrupting my PDF file
[14:56] <kvarley> Only half of each page will show
[14:56] <redtape-renegade> Authome Add-on for Chrome and FFox [ see the pictures ] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kicktraq/
[14:57] <Artful> kvarley, can you ssh to the account?  might try copy that way
[14:57] <kvarley> Artful: It's running IIS
[14:57] <kvarley> So no
[14:57] <Artful> doh kk
[14:57] <Artful> adjust perhaps the timeouts on you local ftp client?
[14:58] <kvarley> Artful: that might work
[14:58] <kvarley> I'll let you know
[14:58] <Artful> try different times of day
[14:59] <kvarley> It's for a uni submission which is due today lol
[14:59] <kvarley> I had everything uploaded early except one file
[14:59] <kvarley> And this one file is being a pain
[14:59] <Artful> last resort, zip it and try uploading that.  a smaller file might get through
[15:00] <Artful> at least then it's uploaded
[15:00] <kvarley> Needs to be PDF
[15:00] <kvarley> No leeway on this kind of thing :(
[15:01] <Artful> does the connection drop, or is the file just always corrupt?
[15:02] <kvarley> Artful: it ends the  transfer then starts it
[15:02] <kvarley> It's always been a terrible server even when it wasn't busy
[15:02] <dwatkins> redtape-renegade: eh?
[15:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> kvarley: try using lftp
[15:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> "Every  operation  in  lftp  is reliable, that is any not fatal error is
[15:02] <TheOpenSourcerer>        ignored and the operation is repeated. So  if  downloading  breaks,  it
[15:02] <TheOpenSourcerer>        will be restarted from the point automatically."
[15:03] <kvarley> TheOpenSourcerer: Please can you give me an example command for how to upload a file from my home directory to it?
[15:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> not the time but man lftp or google will help you.
[15:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> You could also throttle the b/w it wants to use: http://cillian.wordpress.com/2006/04/04/throttle-bandwidth-used-by-ftp-on-linux-from-the-command-line/
[15:08] <dwatkins> or just use tc to throttle all bandwidth, but that's not such a good idea, obv.
[15:08] <dwatkins> there's also 'trickle' which can run on a specific application
[15:09] <redtape-renegade> dwatkins, How's life in the new house, down there >?
[15:13] <kvarley> It fails after 100kb
[15:22] <dwatkins> redtape|coffee: I don't have a new house, you must have me confused with someone else
[15:23] <redtape|coffee> dwatkins, Your not the islander ?
[15:24] <Artful> lol I just tried intel's linux gfx driver installer and it said I haven't a intel gfx card :-(
[15:24] <redtape|coffee> MartijnVdS, I fond my /dream car/ http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/cindyng/dream-car-0/
[15:25] <redtape|coffee> **found my dr..
[15:27] <dwatkins> redtape|coffee: what island? I live in Edinburgh
[15:27] <redtape|coffee> dwatkins, soz must be daftykins , sorry.
[15:27] <dwatkins> I'm also here only very sporadically, as my responses probably demonstrate, redtape|coffee
[15:27] <dwatkins> no worries
[15:28] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, ping
[15:28] <Myrtti> seems very random.
[15:29] <redtape|coffee> Myrtti,  problem ?
[15:32] <kvarley> How can I do explicit TLS when connecting to an FTP server via nautilus?
[15:35] <redtape|coffee> \join freegamer
[15:35] <redtape|coffee> whoopsie
[15:45] <dwatkins> kvarley: you mean sftp?
[15:46] <dwatkins> 'In FileZilla client this means prefixing the host with "FTPES://" for "explicit" FTPS, or "FTPS://" for the legacy "implicit" FTPS.'
[16:05] <directhex> FTPS != SFTP
[16:05] <directhex> FTPS is horribly client-dependent
[16:05] <directhex> and server-dependent
[16:05] <directhex> there are at least 4 ways to do it
[16:16] <kvarley> FTP is dead
[16:16] <kvarley> long life SFTP
[16:16] <kvarley> *LIVE
[16:34] <redtape|coffee> OT Wolverine More4 9pm tonight [ 2009-film  flashback ] .. not that I will get it on Xubuntu.12.10
[17:18]  * redtape|coffee tucks into his Kingsmill 'crusts away'  Beef Sarney.
[17:22] <daftykins> redtape|coffee: yo
[17:23] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, Hi.. just having some tropical Lilt ;)  Whatsup ?
[17:23] <daftykins> :D
[17:24] <daftykins> internet connection just enabled yesterday evening here in my new place
[17:24] <redtape|coffee> happy camper ?
[17:24] <daftykins> been disconnected for weeks! :D
[17:24] <daftykins> sure am
[17:24] <daftykins> finally back \o/
[17:24] <daftykins> and got my lovely new 40Mb connection to boot
[17:24] <daftykins> 4MB/sec downloads are very very welcome :>
[17:24] <redtape|coffee> Oooh. ..  try www.londonist.co.uk  to make yourself feel happier ;)
[17:25] <daftykins> just about to reinstall my HTPC downstairs in the lounge with the latest XBMC www.xbmc.org
[17:25] <redtape|coffee> .. could be worse .. you could be in a flat in Romford :D
[17:25] <daftykins> XD
[17:25] <daftykins> that your domain? looks like a holding page ;D
[17:25] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, Yeah , I bought a Shuttle i3 last week , but it didn't boot ;(
[17:25] <redtape|coffee> hangon..
[17:25] <daftykins> :( gonna fix it up?
[17:27] <redtape|coffee> Whatwas I thinking ? Laandoner are too high and mighty to be in the United Kingdom .. It's http://londonist.com/ ;)
[17:28] <redtape|coffee> The shuttle ? .. I tried by buying a new HDMI cable , but I just gave up in the End .. got a full £150 refund thou :)
[17:28] <redtape|coffee> minus £14 return charges , so no real loss.
[17:28] <daftykins> hehe
[17:28] <daftykins> aww i love a good challenge
[17:28] <daftykins> shame
[17:29] <daftykins> anywho just burnt this XBMCbuntu CD, gonna go get cracking on installing it on my little ASRock Ion HTPC :)
[17:29] <redtape|coffee> It'll be back online and /they/ swear to me it does work if you want to keep a £150 shuttle I3 .. in the family ?
[17:29] <daftykins> i need to buy more flash drives - so frustrating to keep juggling OS's on the same one
[17:29] <redtape|coffee> USB stix ?
[17:30] <daftykins> yep
[17:30] <daftykins> hehe ah i don't need anymore computers - trust me
[17:30] <daftykins> got a shelf of my 2 old laptops
[17:30] <daftykins> server, desktop, newest laptop
[17:30] <redtape|coffee> I'll try and send links your way .. what capacity ?
[17:30] <popey> yeah, I'm using xbmcbuntu on my revo
[17:30] <popey> working very nicely
[17:30] <daftykins> HP touchpad
[17:30] <daftykins> popey: 12 and 12.1 have made it soooo much easier eh? :D
[17:30] <daftykins> i think i may still need to apply my own remote config
[17:30] <daftykins> but that's ok
[17:31] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, I'll try and send links your way .. what capacity ?
[17:31] <daftykins> popey: did you bother updating the nvidia drivers on the install? they seem perfectly capable
[17:31]  * redtape|coffee realizes his crum,pets are burn .. to the kitchen !!!
[17:31] <popey> yeah, i have enabled remote control on my android and iphone
[17:31] <popey> works nicely
[17:31] <daftykins> yarr
[17:31] <popey> daftykins: can't remember
[17:31] <daftykins> my ASRock comes with a remote too though
[17:31] <popey> i need to update it, not been done for weeks
[17:31] <popey> nice!
[17:31] <daftykins> infrared receiver on the unit
[17:32] <popey> I'm using a Boxee remote
[17:32] <daftykins> basically an MCE one, but naturally the button config isn't ideal out of the box
[17:32] <daftykins> i change the 'teletext' button to become the subtitle on/off for example :)
[17:33] <daftykins> redtape|coffee: ah i'd just browse my usual favourite websites for some to be honest. just i've been not letting myself buy anything not strictly necessary - due to house running priorities :D
[17:33]  * redtape|coffee crumpet crisis is averted !
[17:33] <daftykins> now i'm not sponging anymore i've rediscovered living is expensive ;)
[17:34] <popey> yeah, i have a basic mce one I got off ebay i think :D
[17:35] <daftykins> ah man so good to finally be reconnected
[17:35] <daftykins> can finally work from home
[17:35] <daftykins> and finally get more entertainment / play with my toys :>
[17:35] <popey> heh
[17:35] <mgdm> 67
[17:35] <mgdm> oops
[17:36] <daftykins> alright back later, time to commence fiddling :) no doubt my xbox will need a dashboard update by now too... not that i use it much anymore!
[17:37] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, My shares rose by 25% today :)  |   http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MFX.L  bye bye.
[17:38] <daftykins> sell sell sell!
[17:39] <redtape|coffee> I did .. made 2.3k
[17:44] <redtape|coffee> daftykins, You could always try http://dx.com/s/htpc  if you need a new thingyma-jig  ..
[17:45] <mungbean> my hp touchpad died today :(
[17:45] <redtape|coffee> err.   |    i.e. keyboard .
[17:45] <mungbean> no charge, no life, nowt
[17:46] <redtape|coffee> mungbean, My sister got a samsung pad .. it's droid right ?
[17:46] <mungbean> yeah redtape|coffee
[17:47] <mungbean> not sure i can afford to ££ another
[17:52] <redtape|coffee> I bought a nexus 7 for a guy in Switzerland once .. just got this reply back saying ... item forwarded to addresse  (??)
[17:52] <directhex> mungbean, tried a force reset?
[17:53] <redtape|coffee> oh no . not the summerschool PCWorld guy /again !!/
[17:53] <directhex> my touchpad still works, although it occasionally needs to be forced to restart
[17:53] <redtape|coffee> leaves.. BRBack
[17:54] <redtape|coffee> everyone quits now ;(
[17:56] <mungbean> directhex: tried power button and home key for 5/15/30 seconds
[17:56] <mungbean> and also power/vol up/home
[17:56] <directhex> hm
[17:57] <mungbean> came up with "conect the proper charger" message momentarily
[17:57] <mungbean> last night
[17:57] <mungbean> when i was trying to turn it on
[17:57] <mungbean> so i could try to buy a new charger
[17:57] <mungbean> or find a high power one that works
[17:57] <mungbean> the charger still works on my phone
[17:58] <mungbean> ther's a story about CM10 that if your tp gets to zero battery it can get bricked
[17:58] <mungbean> but i had llama installed to poweroff at 5%
[18:04] <mungbean> hmm nexus 10 = £319 ouch
[18:08]  * MartijnVdS hopes the "next Nexus" rumours are true
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> (google i/o in may)
[18:08] <brobostigon> also another new android version.
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> yes
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> but I'm in need of a phone that does 4G _and_ is a Nexus ;)
[18:09] <brobostigon> hopefully also for my nexus7.
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> nexus7 will get any new android update for sure
[18:09] <brobostigon> :)
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> my Xoom won't :(
[18:09] <brobostigon> :(
[18:09] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: isnt there a cm version, which will run on it?
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: probably, can't be bothered to look ;)
[18:10] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ah, i see. oh well. :)
[18:10] <mungbean> if my touchpad is truly dead i will prob get a nex7 because i can't afford much more
[18:11] <mungbean> watched bladerunner last night, was reminded about the nexus6 range ;)
[18:12] <popey> nexus 7 will be cheaper in may I imagine
[18:12] <popey> once the next nexus is announced
[18:12] <MartijnVdS> popey: only if it's a tablet. if it's a phone it might not decrease in price
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[18:13] <popey> so we've had nexus, 4, 7, 10, S, Q..
[18:13]  * brobostigon likes his nexus7.
[18:13] <popey> I bet it's Nexus X
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> Google didn't migrate things from the "Scratchpad" Chrome(OS) app to Keep
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> missed opportunity!
[18:14] <popey> Fancy that.
[18:14] <popey> http://www.google.com/googlenotebook/faq.html
[18:14] <MartijnVdS> popey: Scratchpad does use Drive (a special folder in it) to store its content
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: the scratchpad app isn't gone, so I can copy stuff manually
[18:15] <mungbean> when in may?
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: https://developers.google.com/events/io/
[18:15] <mungbean> surely the nexus is the price it is due to the tech price?
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> May 15-17
[18:15] <popey> https://developers.google.com/events/io/
[18:15] <popey> bah
[18:15] <mungbean> what's the new one?
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: unknown, only rumours
[18:16] <mungbean> hmm
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: rumours are: (a) new nexus phone and/or (b) new nexus tablet to go along with (c) new Android version "Key Lime Pie"
[18:16] <mungbean> not sure i could wait too long if my tablet is really shagged
[18:17] <mungbean> since i have a newborn child and need to read at night to keep me awake
[18:17] <mungbean> shame i don't know anyone with a touchpad so i can try their touchstone
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> wow.. 2 easter eggs on the i/o page found.. let's view source ;)
[18:46] <redtape|coffee> MartijnVdS, If you want to talk about Key Lime Pie you'd better ask jkeyes0 on the #twil ~channel who will gladly accommodate your discussion   ;)
[18:46] <daftykins> the correct format is definitely smb://IP/share/ isn't it?
[18:47] <daftykins> XBMC gives me an instant timeout message if i try smb://IP/e$ for a Windows admin share
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> redtape|coffee: I'll wait it out
[18:48] <ali1234> does anyone know any tools like repo and mr for managing superprojects?
[18:55] <redtape|coffee> ali1234, What like a lens or some project like that ?
[19:02] <daftykins> hmm my HTPC can't connect to my windows file server shares
[19:03] <daftykins> can anyone recommend a way to diagnose? i'm about to try using 'smbclient' in a terminal to try and access my shares
[19:04] <daftykins> ah think i got it
[19:05] <daftykins> server was throwing "protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES"
[21:39] <Arnieeu>  irc.snoonet.org


 So I told him and he then proceeded to tell me to go suck an egg
[06:48] <IdleOne> elky: I am still fresh at this so no :)
[06:48] <IdleOne> oh and also that I needed to grow up
[06:49] <IdleOne> was tame I am sure compared to some of the stuff you folks have gotten
[06:50] <elky> yeah, so a fan club is when you get a troll chasing you between channels to comment on the colour of your skin, your sexual orientation, your preference for children, etc.
[06:50] <IdleOne> have not had to suffer that. yet!
[06:51] <elky> You will.
[06:51] <IdleOne> sexual orientation?? laying down I guess
[06:51] <elky> It's usually at once you have a fanclub that your mortality comes in to question.
[06:53] <IdleOne> irc death threats == fail
[06:53] <elky> Normally.
[06:54] <elky> When you look at their hostname and can note that they are serviced by a nearby exchange, they become less fail.
[06:55] <IdleOne> Well if they can get close enough to me then they better be ready to fight
[06:58] <IdleOne> actually a few years ago someone threatened my wife on irc. after a little searching I found a picture he had posted online and didn't notice that in the picture was the street sign of the street he lived on
[06:58] <IdleOne> He didn't bother her anymore
[07:00] <IdleOne> anyway that was a million lifetimes ago and today I am about the Ubuntu.
[08:10] <h00k> raj is starting to get a little trolly about mint in #ubuntu
[08:37] <bazhang> alabd is back as inconsiderable
[08:46] <h00k> noted
[08:49] <winXPuser> I wanted to let ubottu know that !bootparameters is https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/i386/boot-parms.html , it said that my edit request was forwarded here
[08:49] <winXPuser> there is no such factoid at present yet, I wish to add it
[08:52] <bazhang> he's trying to get a new cloak to ban evade it would appear
[08:52] <bazhang> winXPuser, thanks
[08:55] <h00k> bazhang: referring to alabd?
[08:55] <bazhang> winXPuser, was there something else?
[08:55] <winXPuser> bazhang, no. no other question.
[08:55] <bazhang> winXPuser, okay thanks.
[08:56] <winXPuser> bazhang, do you mean that should leave now?
[08:56] <bazhang> winXPuser, should you not require any immediate assistance, its the channel policy
[08:56] <winXPuser> okay
[08:56] <bazhang> h00k, yep
[08:57] <h00k> good catch.
[08:57] <bazhang> he's asking about anyone being able to identify him in any way, using a proxy as well.
[08:58] <h00k> bazhang: which channel did he ask that in?
[08:58] <bazhang> #freenode
[08:58] <h00k> >.<
[08:59] <h00k> okay, I need to begin a roadtrip in...4 hours, I should sleep.
[08:59] <h00k> Peace,all.
[09:00] <bazhang> bye
[09:57] <elky> bazhang, I like it when they name themselves so aptly.
[11:26] <bazhang> elky, I had to read that twice; on first look I read 'inconsiderate'
[11:29] <jussi> hiya nickspoon, nice to see you around again. what can we help you with?
[11:32] <nickspoon> Huh?
[11:32] <nickspoon> I don't need any help, Mr. jussi :)
[11:33] <jussi> !idle | nickspoon
[11:35] <nickspoon> Last time I checked I was an op? :s
[11:41] <nickspoon> Apparently not any more, which I guess is fair enough.
[12:43] <bazhang> AcePreshaw, how can we help you
[12:44] <AcePreshaw> nm
[13:06] <Mamarok> I think he is looking for a ban removal
[13:20] <nhandler> Yeah, he went around using the op trigger in a bunch of channels. He game here a while ago looking for ikonia
[13:44] <Mamarok> hm, I think ikonia will not be around in the next days, so he will have to wait quite some time :)
[14:08] <elky> !chanserv.py
[14:08] <elky> ^ is that current or out of date?
[14:28] <jussi> Im not certain, but I remember Dennis saying he was going to update it.
[14:29] <elky> the factoid could be updated independent of dennis' script.
[14:32] <elky> (which i would do, if i knew the link to update it with)
[14:35] <jussi> no, I mean dennis updated the script. but Im by no means certain that he actually did it
[14:44] <tsimpson> it's the current correct link
[14:45] <jussi> tsimpson: ahh, great :)
[14:52] <Tm_T> hi
[14:52] <elky> could someone from the IRCC please take ljl aside and teach him some manners?
[14:53] <jrib> regarding?
[14:54] <bazhang> looked more like spaceghost to be honest
[14:54] <elky> maek0 is trying to get people to stop harrassing him by highlighting, ljl is adamant that it's all maek0's fault and that since he himself never got upset, maek0 isn't allowed to.
[14:54] <elky> then told maek0 to leave because he stated that the community was mean.
[14:55] <bazhang> true, but spaceghost is often at the center of these type of events
[14:56] <elky> in other words, he's being an ass.
[14:57] <bazhang> yep
[14:57] <jrib> meh, -offtopic is the place to have that discussion, I don't see them being belligerent
[14:58] <jrib> but I'll stay out of it, I don't care to be involved in -offtopic administration
[14:58] <bazhang> I always get highlighted there
[15:06] <elky> holy crap that was a whole lot of bullying.
[15:06] <elky> and since when did our users forget the difference between typos and lolspeak
[19:54] <txwikinger> @login
[19:54] <txwikinger> @btlogin
[20:03] <Flannel> would've expected floodbot to mute
[20:14] <AdamDV> Whats the deal with ubuntu.com? Wasn't it supposed to be re-branded?
[20:15] <nhandler> AdamDV: My guess is that they are still working on it. But this isn't the right channel for this discussion
[20:15] <AdamDV> What channel is?
[20:15] <nhandler> AdamDV: You might want to try #ubuntu-website
[20:15] <AdamDV> Thanks
[20:38] <jpds> "I DEMAND new shiny ponies OR ELSE".
[21:43] <AcePreshaw> canu help ,me plz


[09:38] <dust> I've been having problems compiling stuff in general too, I might be missing somthing essential?
[09:38] <VSpike> Thehound666:  I'm using the ones that are part of distribution now
[09:38] <dust> extern: what would they be called?
[09:39] <Thehound666> x1950PRO XGE is new
[09:39] <dust> x.org dev?
[09:39] <Thehound666> wouldn't think the open would support it yet
[09:39] <VSpike> The binary ones are also available
[09:39] <extern> sarch from them in adept
[09:39] <VSpike> xorg-driver-fglrx                          7.1.0-8.28.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-10.1           Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[09:39] <extern> it should start like "libX11-xxxxx-dev"
[09:39] <extern> I don't know the xxx part
[09:40] <stdin> dust: probably xorg-dev
[09:40] <kub23> yes i think i don't need anti virus soft..
[09:40] <dust> xserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files ?
[09:40] <extern> yeah
[09:40] <extern> those may be it
[09:40] <kub23> How to register in this chat?
[09:40] <stdin> !info xorg-dev
[09:40] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:40] <SpAwN> when i try to start ipkungfu with/etc/init.d/ipkungfu start it doesnt start only says to see its debian.readme...which doesnt exits :(
[09:40] <stdin> !register | kub23
[09:40] <ubotu> kub23: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:40] <dust> k, trying that?
[09:40] <VSpike> Is there a graphical way to manage applications which autostart in KDE?
[09:40] <SpAwN> anyone know about ubuntu and ipkungfu
[09:41] <kub23> 10x
[09:41] <dust> VSpike: just make symlinks to ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:41] <Thehound666> xorg-driver fglrx and fglrx-dev?
[09:42] <extern> what can I do to fix that "can't run compiled C++ programs" error? It's given when running configure, but I tried compiling a very simple hello world program and it ran fine
[09:42] <stdin> make sure you have the build-essential package
[09:43] <extern> the code was compiling fine
[09:43] <extern> until I tried to install wxWidgests 2.8.0
[09:43] <VSpike> dust: OK.. I know that's easy, it just seemed odd that there was no graphical too for it.  Do I symlink .desktop files, or copy them? Or symlink applications?  Or any of the above?
[09:43] <extern> the very same code
[09:43] <extern> :/
[09:43] <Thehound666> no x1950 support listed
[09:43] <trappist> SpAwN: I think the packager makes you enable it in /etc/default/ipkungfu or something
[09:43] <trappist> SpAwN: check the readme :)
[09:43] <SpAwN> trappist, i read it.
[09:44] <extern> searching on google, I found a topic, that said it's because libstdc++ is not found, I have to explicitly set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to it
[09:44] <extern> how can I set it?
[09:44] <dust> VSpike: I have to agree it's not very stright foreward, but... What I did was to symlink to the binaries, ie: ln -s /usr/bin/knetworkmanager ~/.kde/Autostart/
[09:44] <gigione> is there another way to start kaffeine?
[09:45] <trappist> SpAwN: try checking out the init script, see what it's doing
[09:45] <gigione> cause i can't start it
[09:45] <SpAwN> trappist, it wasnt starting the right excutalbe so i edited so it woulr
[09:45] <SpAwN> trappist, b4 it woulndt do anything....now it at least says not starting
[09:46] <Thehound666> x1950 is a pain on even Windows though great card
[09:46] <Thehound666> not even Omega latest version recognises it
[09:46] <trappist> SpAwN: have a look at /etc/default/ipkungfu
[09:46] <SpAwN> is that the file i have to comment out the line?
[09:46] <trappist> SpAwN: change the 0 to a 1
[09:47] <SpAwN> on mandriva it at least said what file to edit......on here it says nothing
[09:47] <trappist> SpAwN: it says to check the readme, which says what file to edit and how to edit it
[09:47] <SpAwN> trappist, but the readme file isnt there
[09:48] <trappist> SpAwN: /usr/share/doc/ipkungfu/README.Debian ?
[09:48] <SpAwN> trappist, it says to check the readme.debian..which isnt on my computer
[09:48] <SpAwN> no
[09:48] <SpAwN> its not there or anywhere
[09:48] <trappist> SpAwN: it may have been wiped out when you upgraded from source
[09:49] <dust> extern, stdin: I installed xserver-xorg-dev, and that went fine, but compile still whines about X, so I tried installing xorg-dev, but that complains about libxft-dev, which in turn wants libfontconfig1-dev, and trying to install that gives me libfontconfig1-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1 (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1 is to be installed
[09:49] <dust> :/
[09:49] <VSpike> Thehound666: You are right that the open drivers do not support it.  I don't know about fglrx
[09:49] <SpAwN> bah this just isnt working http://pastebin.ulteo.us/397
[09:49] <extern> what were you trying to compile again?
[09:49] <dust> kmobiletools
[09:50] <trappist> SpAwN: it's working, you just hit a bug (that should be fixed in 0.6.1)
[09:50] <extern> is it available on apt-get?
[09:50] <extern> try doing sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools
[09:50] <SpAwN> trappist, that should be the newest..i dled from your site like a hour ago
[09:50] <trappist> SpAwN: you should be able to get rid of those messages by putting one and only one netmask in ipkungfu.conf
[09:50] <trappist> SpAwN: well that's no good :/
[09:50] <trappist> SpAwN: meet me in #ipkungfu?
[09:50] <SpAwN> sure
[09:52] <dust> extern: trying to do the build-dep thing didn't work, still whines about unmet dependencies, but just running apt-get install kmobiletools worked
[09:53] <extern> build-dep should get all the dependencies for that package :/
[09:54] <Thehound666> ok their installer is a .run
[09:54] <Thehound666> how do I run that?
[09:54] <Thehound666> I did sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run
[09:55] <Valmarko> here I am,  please send me an angel :)
[09:56] <Valmarko> It's m birthday, ubuntu comunity
[09:57] <Thehound666> looks like stupid VMWare for me
[09:58] <Thehound666> these drivers have a .run
[09:58] <dust> for what?
[09:58] <dethklok> my stomach hurts, i'm gonna go eat
[09:58] <Thehound666> the installer
[09:59] <Thehound666> and following their instructions will not launch it
[09:59] <extern> I traced that my g++ error is caused by wx-config --libs. It outputs the following: -L/usr/local/lib -pthread   -lwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8 -lwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8 -lwx_gtk2u_qa-2.8 -lwx_gtk2u_html-2.8 -lwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8 -lwx_gtk2u_core-2.8 -lwx_baseu_xml-2.8 -lwx_baseu_net-2.8 -lwx_baseu-2.  What could be wrong with those?
[09:59] <Thehound666> even after making it executable
[10:00] <Thehound666> command not found
[10:00] <Thehound666> actually can't open
[10:00] <Thehound666> thehound@thehound-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run
[10:00] <Thehound666> sh: Can't open ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run
[10:01] <dust> chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run ?
[10:01] <wezzie> im have trouble viewing a .rm file. i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown fileformat. what could be the problem
[10:02] <Thehound666> I right clicked, checked "is executable"
[10:02] <Thehound666> I do things graphically when I can
[10:02] <Thehound666> lol
[10:02] <Valmarko> lol
[10:02] <Valmarko> lol
[10:03] <dust> Thehound666: well, in theory that should do it :p
[10:03] <Valmarko> tnks dethklok
[10:03] <Thehound666> oh the instructions were a typo from them
[10:03] <dust> but in my experience, "linux" and "theory" are mutally exclusive :P
[10:03] <Thehound666> they had a chracter wrong in filename
[10:03] <Thehound666> wtf lol
[10:03] <dust> d'oh
[10:04] <Thehound666> I copied pasted them
[10:04] <Thehound666> so that one's not on me
[10:04] <pgdown> has anyone taken the red hat certs?
[10:04] <dust> :)
[10:04] <Valmarko> what is linux ?
[10:04] <Thehound666> yay
[10:04] <Kyral> Valmarko: A way of life
[10:04] <agnostic> on my Edgy,  Ctrl+Alt+Fn  combination do not work, any idea?
[10:04] <Thehound666> now I can do away with this vm now that I know I can install compatible drivers for my very new card
[10:05] <Valmarko> ;) yaaa
[10:05] <Thehound666> well not do away, what I want to do is have it use same partition as Linux install for when I boot to windows
[10:05] <LjL> agnostic: when inside X, or when in a console?
[10:05] <Thehound666> since I often need to run rtorrent
[10:05] <dust> beware tho, I had a pain getting fglx drivers working, and when the finally did, and I tried enabeling translucency and other goodies, it turned out poop
[10:05] <dethklok> Valmarko, Now, what will you do with that amazing banana sticker?
[10:05] <dethklok> lol
[10:06] <agnostic> inside X
[10:06] <dethklok> agnostic, i like that word
[10:06] <Thehound666> these may be different
[10:06] <Thehound666> released Jan 17 2007
[10:06] <Thehound666> brand new drivers
[10:06] <Valmarko> good question ? what would you do ?
[10:06] <dethklok> I really don't know... Maybe stick it on my monitor.. Lol.
[10:07] <dust> Thehound666: you want to install linux on the same partition as windows?
[10:07] <Thehound666> no
[10:07] <Thehound666> seperate partition
[10:07] <Thehound666> just have a VM with access to Linux
[10:07] <Thehound666> for when I need to run windows
[10:07] <dust> ah
[10:08] <Thehound666> like the game that's my crack
[10:08] <Thehound666> FFXI
[10:08] <Valmarko> maybe... ubuntu it ?
[10:08] <animimotus> please, how can I switch the standard sound output to my headset usb?
 do you know what means?
[10:09] <Valmarko> ubuntu=share
[10:09] <dethklok> agnostic, Yeah, I am it
[10:09] <dethklok> agnostic, but I have allways found a weird attraction to the word itself
[10:09] <Thehound666> the install package has a cute penguin
[10:10] <Thehound666> guess ATI are still Linux fans
[10:10] <Thehound666> new drivers are out
[10:10] <Valmarko> dethklok, ubuntu = share
[10:10] <agnostic> me to :)
[10:10] <dethklok> agnostic, lol... well i kinda assumed that.. lol
[10:10] <Valmarko> dethklok, ubuntu <=> share
[10:10] <dethklok> Valmarko, huh?
[10:10] <Valmarko> :)
[10:11] <dethklok> What, you want more banana stickers? lol
[10:11] <Valmarko> I'm answering your question :)
[10:11] <dethklok> Valmarko, oooooooo ic
[10:12] <Valmarko> oooohhh ;)
[10:12] <dethklok> lol
[10:12] <Valmarko> lol
[10:12] <dust> btw: anyone know what/where to edit to change the application launched when I click on links in gaim? now it's konqueror and I want it to be firefox
[10:12] <dethklok> sry im kinda distracted atm... installing kdegames
[10:12] <pucko-> Hello. When I used suse some time ago I had a button in konqueror (file browsing mod) that allowed me to watch images in a sane way (all images as thumbnails to the left and a large image in the main window). Can I add that in kubuntu 6.10 as well?
[10:15] <angasule> pucko-: don't know about that exactly, but sounds a lot like gwenview
[10:16] <dust> I've tried pretty much all the image managers, and gwenview is fast for browsing, while digikam is great for archiving and imporing
[10:17] <Valmarko> hello everybody! hello kubunuts! ;=)
[10:17] <dethklok> who likes the donnie darko movie?
[10:17] <dust> I do :D
[10:17] <dust> ..why?
[10:18] <dethklok> what's your interpertation (sp?) on the movie?
[10:18] <dethklok> i think i understnad the basic idea behind the movie.. but not sure
[10:18] <dethklok> understand*
[10:18] <Valmarko> ummm... what about ring II?
[10:18] <dethklok> never saw either of the ring 's
[10:18] <Valmarko> i just saw it
[10:18] <Valmarko> very nice
[10:19] <dethklok> i heard the Jap. version of Ring 1 was really good
[10:19] <dethklok> ._.
[10:19] <Valmarko> the grudge ? amazing !!
[10:19] <dethklok> Eek, I only saw the end of that movie, seemed alright
[10:20] <Skrot-> Booring..
[10:20] <Skrot-> Both grudge and ring*
[10:20] <dethklok> I liked Hostel, pretty good mov.
[10:20] <Valmarko> ummm.... maybe it's not your kind of movie
[10:21] <Skrot-> Saw was okay, for a horro flick
[10:21] <dethklok> Maybe
[10:21] <Valmarko> hostel... yaa
[10:21] <dethklok> 1,2,or3?
[10:21] <stdin> getting a bit -offtopic now
[10:21] <dethklok> Lol, so...
[10:21] <Valmarko> chek republik
[10:21] <dethklok> Huh?
[10:21] <stdin> !offtopic
[10:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:21] <dethklok> Aww, that's no fun :)
[10:22] <dust> :P
[10:22] <dethklok> And besides, is there anybody that needs help with Kubuntu at this very moment?
[10:22] <dethklok> (not that im able to help... lol)
[10:22] <Valmarko> lol
[10:22] <stdin> don't matter, it just keeps this channel clear for support
[10:22] <dethklok> Mmkay
[10:23] <Valmarko> lets go off topic
[10:23] <Thehound666> what my friend from a tracker says is right
[10:23] <dethklok> Let's talk about MySpace!! Lol.
[10:23] <dethklok> !myspace
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <dethklok> Aww :(
[10:23] <Thehound666> WINE-because you demand the stability of Windows 95, without all the compatibility
[10:23] <Thehound666> lol
[10:24] <dethklok> Wine Is Not an Emulator!
[10:24] <Valmarko> ubotu... i wish you could rule the world sone day
[10:24] <dust> btw: anyone know what/where to edit to change the application launched when I click on links in gaim? now it's konqueror and I want it to be firefox
[10:24] <dethklok> Pff, he/she/it dosen't even know what MySpace is...
[10:24] <Thehound666> I wish they would develop for it, eliminating the need for such projects as WINE
[10:24] <dust> since everyone want's to be ontopic :)
[10:25] <stdin> dust: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[10:25] <dethklok> Hehe, like I said, I cant help :(
[10:25] <dust> :)
[10:25] <Thehound666> if anyone gets http-tunnelclient.exe running smooth under WINE let me know
[10:26] <mervteck> hey guys
[10:26] <frojnd> has anyone experiances with keyboard layouts?
[10:26] <frojnd> cant set keyboard to slovenia layout
[10:26] <frojnd> and now everything is fu** up
[10:26] <dethklok> Give me love give me liberty disco!
[10:26] <frojnd> cant find apostroph
[10:26] <Valmarko> ummm
[10:26] <frojnd> afna, slas etc
[10:27] <dust> frojnd: since using xfce, I found out that it's in xorg.conf, but kubuntu have wizards for it
[10:27] <frojnd> I tryed by sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but no good luck
[10:27] <Thehound666> my friend who says that uses Linux, but needs to dual boot
[10:27] <Valmarko> let's dance. the spirit is ubuntu!!!!!
[10:27] <dethklok> Umm, I installed kdegames and its not in my kickerbar... What do I do?
[10:27] <frojnd> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg also not good luck :s
[10:27] <Thehound666> try running it in Konsole?
[10:28] <frojnd> dust: maybe u know for any type of those wizards?
[10:28] <dust> sec
[10:28] <dethklok> Thehound666, what would the command be for that?
[10:29] <stdin> dethklok: games will be in Kmenu -> Games, if you don't see them, try logging out and back in, or kill kicker and restart it
[10:29] <dust> K --> System Settings --> Regional & Language --> Keyboard layout
[10:29] <blackflag> does someone one if i can play "studio 8" under kubuntu
[10:29] <blackflag> ?
[10:30] <blackflag> !studio 8
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about studio 8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <dethklok> stdin, how do you kill the kicker and restart it?
[10:30] <dust> or, you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the Keyboard section
[10:30] <Valmarko> studio 8? what's that ?
[10:30] <stdin> dethklok: Alt-F2, killall kicler && kicker
[10:30] <blackflag> macromedia developer tools
[10:30] <Valmarko> uaoooo
[10:30] <blackflag> web developing
[10:31] <Valmarko> developing... develop+ingg
[10:31] <blackflag> is there something like cross over office?
[10:31] <Valmarko> What about enjoying ??
[10:31] <dethklok> stdin, humm, didnt work
[10:31] <dust> blackflag: wine maybe? theres a Application db on winehq.org
[10:31] <blackflag> I want to run Linux in my firm but some peoleple are needing there software
[10:31] <dethklok> brb I guess then
[10:32] <stdin> dethklok: try logging out and back in then
[10:32] <colm> hey, i just downloaded a tar ball source, and it doesn't have ./configure in it... Is there other ways I can install it?
[10:33] <stdin> Sanit: dose it have a Makefile ?
[10:33] <Valmarko> I would like to have compiz install and running in my system --- kubuntu 6.10. What should I do ?
[10:33] <Sanit> not in the extracted tar ball folder
[10:34] <stdin> !compiz
[10:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:34] <stdin> Sanit: maybe you need automake and/or autoconf
[10:35] <Sanit> can you give me the commands for that please?
[10:35] <Valmarko> please... that site doe not give me instructions about installing compiz on kubunut... i need some other kinf of help... Of course,... Please
[10:35] <stdin> Sanit: sudo apt-get install automake autoconf
[10:35] <stdin> Valmarko: See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:35] <Valmarko> ahhh... lety me see . tnks :)
[10:36] <Sanit> stdin: That installed... now what?
[10:36] <dethklok> Whoo, It worked!
[10:36] <stdin> Sanit: try just typing "autoconf" or "automake"
[10:37] <Sanit> i did
[10:37] <Sanit> errors
[10:37] <Sanit> autoconf: no input file
[10:37] <stdin> Sanit: what are you trying to compile ?
[10:37] <malik> can some1 tell me whats the correct flsh plugin for konqi and ff on kubuntu edgy?
[10:38] <angasule> !flash
[10:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:38] <Sanit> stdin: http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/
[10:38] <Thehound666> going to lay the groundwork for Installing a real Linux partition
[10:38] <Thehound666> hopefully have good luck
[10:38] <Thehound666> slower pc is nix only
[10:38] <angasule> hmm, that command made me think of the old Flash movie song, "Flash! ooo-oo-ooooooooh!"
[10:38] <malik> i have   Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31  libflashplayer.so installed in /home/malik/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ..........is it correct insytallation?
[10:39] <Cuddles_in_KY> afternoon all.
[10:39] <LordOllie> can anyone tell me the what is was the I need to type into "run command" to be able to install a new kde theme?
[10:39] <dethklok> Gah, I'm still hungry :(
[10:39] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok folks. last chance here.
[10:39] <Valmarko> shokwave ... ? there is no shokwave for ubuntu
[10:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> is there an ndiswrapper expert around? 4 days i've been beating my brains out over this.
[10:40] <dethklok> Cuddles_in_KY, try #ndiswrapper
[10:40] <LordOllie> Cuddles_in_KY: I got to do this first !automatix2
[10:40] <LordOllie> wrong command?
[10:41] <dethklok> LordOllie, Is your name Ollie?
[10:41] <LordOllie> yes
[10:41] <dethklok> Were you born in alaska?
[10:41] <LordOllie> no, Maine
[10:41] <dethklok> Ok, nevermind
[10:41] <dethklok> lol
[10:41] <frojnd> dust: I tryed in system settings, but I am only able to enable layout nor select the right one, in xorg.conf I set layout to si, but nothing happens
[10:41] <francis> bonjour
[10:42] <dethklok> francis, try #france
[10:42] <dust> frojnd: you need to restart X for changes in xorg.conf to be applied
[10:42] <dust> ie: save all documents, hit ctrl+alt+backspace and see if that helps
[10:42] <francis> ca marche comment sur kubuntu pour conversation ???
[10:42] <Valmarko> I was born in Santa Maria
[10:43] <Valmarko> francis, please
[10:43] <stdin> Sanit: what's in the file you downloaded ?
[10:43] <francis> je dois faire quoi ??
[10:43] <Valmarko> I know , french is beautiful
[10:43] <stdin> !fr | francis
[10:43] <ubotu> francis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:43] <dust> haha
[10:44] <dust> french frog-eating-whatnot :p
[10:44] <Valmarko> But... I'm portuguese and I'm speaking ( badly) englis
[10:44] <Valmarko> Do as I amk
[10:44] <Sanit> stdin: .so files but no configure or make files
[10:44] <dethklok> !ge
[10:44] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[10:44] <dethklok> wtf, Georgian?
[10:45] <dust> heh
[10:45] <francis> et ca va me donner quoi sur ubuntu fr ??
[10:45] <LordOllie> !dl
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <LordOllie> !de
[10:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <dethklok> !gr
[10:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[10:45] <LordOllie> there you go
[10:45] <Valmarko> french is really beautiful...
[10:45] <dethklok> I'm going for german
[10:45] <dethklok> !gm
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <stdin> !botabuse
[10:45] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:45] <VSpike> !de
[10:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <Valmarko> !pt
[10:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:45] <now3d> in C++ how can I set up my member function so it won't be overridden in a derived class?
[10:46] <dethklok> !c++
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <dethklok> lol
[10:46] <VSpike> Is there a tool for configuring the kdm display manager login screen?
[10:46] <dethklok> !login
[10:46] <francis> ca defille trop vite a l ecran
[10:46] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[10:46] <dust> I think there is a optiong in settings?
[10:46] <dethklok> !loginscreen
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loginscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <LordOllie> !splashscreen
[10:46] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[10:47] <jhutchins> VSpike: Yeah, it's in the System Settings, Login Manager I think.
[10:47] <LordOllie> !kde
[10:47] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:47] <dethklok> !splashscreenkde
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splashscreenkde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <francis> cest la premiere fois que je met konversation en route
[10:47] <LordOllie> !kth
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <dethklok> BRB, I just renember I have a book for this!!!
[10:47] <dethklok> gimme a sec
[10:47] <LordOllie> !kdetheme
[10:47] <stdin> VSpike: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#head-4b3b5593ae454ea8991ad90ceb81f453a0e6ab82
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Valmarko> la premier fois....
[10:47] <LordOllie> !kdethemes
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdethemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <stdin> ok, enough abusing the bot now
[10:47] <LjL> hey, what's all this spam? stop, will you?
[10:47] <VSpike> jhutchins: thanks
[10:48] <VSpike> stdin: thanks
[10:48] <LordOllie> a lot faster then Oort
[10:48] <stdin> Sanit: ahh, it's not source code
[10:48] <dethklok> Back!!!
[10:49] <ten_> Hi, just testing Kubuntu (herd2). Got one small problem with my Logitech Dinovo Edge keyboard (mouse pad is not working, keyboard is working fine)
[10:49] <stdin> Sanit: just run the "FretsOnFire" script like: ./FretsOnFire (from konsole)
[10:49] <Valmarko> :)
[10:49] <malik> !flash
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <stdin> ten_: for feisty issues use #ubuntu+1
[10:49] <ten_> thanks
[10:49] <dethklok> !kdm
[10:49] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[10:49] <visik7> arts insert a glitch at the end of a event sound how can I remove it ?
[10:49] <dethklok> there we go, its called KDM
[10:50] <dethklok> Come on ride the train, n ride it!
[10:51] <jhutchins> visik7: Use alsa.
[10:52] <visik7> how ?
[10:52] <visik7> jhutchins: they are the sound of events , for example bluetooth plugged/unplagged
[10:52] <visik7> or knemo interface up/down
[10:52] <visik7> ecc...
[10:53] <jhutchins> visik7: Install the alsa packages, then in the kde configuration for sound events point it to the alsa sound system.
[10:53] <visik7> alsa is installed by default
[10:54] <visik7> is there some particular package that u mean ?
[10:54] <malik> hi ..................the flash plugin in my /usr/lib/firefox/plugins directory has a lock sign on it any idea how to remove that sign from there?
[10:55] <jhutchins> visik7: Ok, you said that arts was inserting the glitch, don't use arts.
[10:56] <adaptr> malik: it means it has restricted permissions for you - why do you want to change it ?
[10:56] <visik7> there isn't any way to tell kde to don't use arts for system sound (even if I dunno it's really arts that run this sound)
[10:57] <kub23> Hi ppls, its again me
[10:57] <malik> adaptr: because i think it is part of the reason that i cant play video clips from http://video.ninemsn.com.au
[10:57] <adaptr> visik7: if that is a question, no - KDE uses Arts
[10:57] <adaptr> aRts, even
[10:58] <jhutchins> adaptr: What version?
[10:58] <jhutchins> I thought 3.5 was using alsa.
[10:58] <visik7> btw switching on and off bluetooth kde says bluetooth adapter found and it play a sound that end with a glitch
[10:58] <jhutchins> arts is obsolete.
[10:59] <adaptr> jhutchins: tell me about it - but I think it depends on the sound-wanting apps you run , which KDE libs they were compiled for
[10:59] <malik> adaptr: if you are using FF then can you plz check and try to play any clip from http://video.ninemsn.com.au if its working in ur browser
[11:00] <visik7> arts is running switching it off no sound is played on bluetooth on/off event
[11:00] <adaptr> malik: it tells me that this product *requires* Windows Media Player 10
[11:01] <visik7> btw when I playt the test sound  there isn't glitch
[11:01] <malik> when i try it it tells me that i need IE but videos from their mother website video.msn.com do play
[11:02] <malik> there was some1 here yesterday who could play videos from ninemsn but he/she couldnt be bothered tellin how to accomplish that
[11:05] <kub23> hey ppls, i have question... why when i download files with KTorrent or some other torrent client for linux, the torrent dont wan to start downloading in Ktorrent i'm seeing "STALLED" i've succesfully downloaded only 1 torrent, and deleted it, can't download more
[11:05] <dethklok> How can I find out if I use Lilo or Grub?
[11:05] <jhutchins> kub23: Possibly there aren't any seeds for what you're trying to download.
[11:06] <jhutchins> dethklok: You'll have /etc/lilo.conf and "which lilo" if lilo's installed.  You should also see the name of the bootloader when you start the sytem.
[11:06] <kub23> jhutchuns: am, i don't think so becouse there are alot of seeders, more than 30 and i'm downloading from Local torrents... speed up to 16mb/s
[11:07] <Xera> omg omg omg
[11:07] <Xera> i backed up ALL my data to dvds
[11:07] <Xera> and windows can't read them
[11:07] <Xera> f*ck
[11:07] <kub23> jhutchins*
[11:07] <dethklok> jhutchins, i don't see a lilo.conf or grub.conf.. lol
[11:08] <Xera> ok need help: i burned a load of data with k3b to some 4.7gb rw dvds, 4x, windows cannot read the dvds but linux can -- why? :S
[11:08] <koli> hello everybody
[11:08] <koli> can someone help me?
[11:08] <koli> i want to know how to install xgl on kubuntu
[11:09] <dethklok> !xgl | koli
[11:09] <ubotu> koli: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:09] <Nookie^> hi! how can i use some ubuntu theme in my kubuntu.. for now gaim is very ugly?
[11:09] <Nookie^> what package to install?
[11:09] <kub23> .
[11:10] <jhutchins> dethklok: If you have grub (probably) you'll see something in /boot.
[11:11] <jhutchins> /boot/grub usually
[11:11] <jhutchins> Nookie^: gaim is not a kde app and probably won't respond to themes.
[11:12] <dethklok> jhutchins, ok I have grub
[11:12] <dethklok> thx
[11:12] <Nookie^> jhutchins: there i an option to choose in kcontrol to run gtk themes
[11:12] <Nookie^> but how do i install them
[11:12] <Nookie^> what package
[11:13] <kub23> Someone please tell me what i have to do to register in this chat:( i've readed alot but, don't undersanding alot english :(
[11:14] <dethklok> kub23, /msg nickserv register help
[11:14] <dethklok> kub23, sorry i mean /msg nickserv help
[11:15] <dust> Xera: tried reading it in raw mode?
[11:16] <Xera> how do i do that?
[11:16] <Xera> ;/
[11:16] <kub24> lolz
[11:16] <kub24> i think now i am registered
[11:17] <mau12> I need help
[11:17] <Thehound666> omg! why did I ever use that crappy Kasablanca that's slow compared to my NIC and crashes on huge files?
[11:17] <Thehound666> I never knew Konqueror functioned as an ftp client
[11:18] <Thehound666> and it does well
[11:18] <mau12> i've downloaded the last version of open office but I can0
[11:18] <Xera> dust: how do i read it in raw mode?
[11:19] <mau12> but I can't install the package tar.gz
[11:19] <user-land> I just updated to kubuntu-desktop and now the default movie player tells me to install libdvdcss.
[11:19] <user-land> what should i ask ubotu so i go to the right tutorial for that ?
[11:19] <malik> whats the best flsh plkugin package to install?.............libflash-mozilla or flash-nonfree?
[11:20] <stdin> malik: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:20] <Xera> mau12: un-tar the file with ark(just click it and it should open)
[11:20] <ubuntu_> j
[11:20] <stdin> user-land: you don't have to install it, it's used to play encrypted DVDs
[11:20] <jhutchins> mau12: If you install tar.gz files you break the package management system.
[11:21] <user-land> thanks stdin
[11:21] <dethklok> Has anybody played that flash game that came out awhile back... I believe it was called "The Room"
[11:22] <mau12> Are you sure, i have installed another package but with this uctually di don't know
[11:22] <dethklok> Where you locked in these rooms and you have to find clues to unlock the door to the next room
[11:22] <jhutchins> mau12: Yes.
[11:22] <jhutchins> mau12: Better to use what's available through apt-get or aptitude.
[11:22] <jhutchins> mau12: I think that's pretty current anyway.
[11:23] <Thehound666> why did noone tell me Konqueror was an ftp client?
[11:23] <Thehound666> I just stumbled upon the info
[11:23] <jhutchins> mau12: You are going to need at least 10GB free to install OO from a tarball (tar.gz).
[11:23] <Thehound666> must say a versatile app
[11:23] <jhutchins> Thehound666: That's a pretty standard feature for browsers for a long time noe.
[11:23] <jhutchins> now.
[11:23] <user-land> because you use a bad nickname ?
[11:23] <Thehound666> does firefox send files too?
[11:24] <Thehound666> I'm backing up files to Windows until I install new Linux partition
[11:24] <Thehound666> via ftp transfer
[11:24] <stdin> Thehound666: nope, but you can install an extention to do that
[11:24] <mau12> If i don't install from a tar what should i do? how can i upgrade it isnt in adept manager
[11:24] <dethklok> !kdeadmin
[11:25] <Thehound666> 10.5 MB/sec, limited by a lousy NIC on the other pc
[11:25] <stdin> dethklok: ubotu isn't here
[11:25] <dethklok> stdin, what.. I thought it was a bot?
[11:26] <stdin> dethklok: it is, but it left (crashed/exited), but ubotwo is here now, it's replacement :)
[11:26] <dethklok> !kdeadmin
[11:26] <ubotwo> kdeadmin - system administration tools from the official KDE release - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[11:26] <dethklok> stdin, lol, wow
[11:26] <stdin> !bot
[11:26] <ubotwo> This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:27] <dethklok> so could i change my name to ubuto
[11:27] <LjL> dethklok: not advised
[11:27] <LjL> besides, it's ubotu
[11:27] <stdin> heh :P
[11:27] <Thehound666> well no more Kasablanca, that app=too crash prone
[11:28] <dethklok> LjL, well then it wouldnt have mattered anyways :-p
[11:28] <dethklok> lol
[11:30] <dethklok> LjL, lol, i just looked back at what i typed... I spelt it right...
[11:30] <dethklok> lol
[11:30] <dethklok> oh wait... nevermind
[11:30] <LjL> err no :P
[11:30] <pixelation> hello, I have two different modifications for my WINE registry... I would love to put em in there, but the only thing I've ever done is clean registry, how do I get up in there and add these two.
[11:30] <pixelation> put them at the bottom?
[11:30] <pixelation> like system.list?
[11:31] <LjL> pixelation: uh, can't you just use regedit.exe?
[11:31] <pixelation> I've never used it, I have some registry editing software, but how does it work?
[11:31] <pixelation> is it user friendly?
[11:32] <LjL> pixelation: it's just like the regedit that's in MS Windows
[11:32] <LjL> type "regedit" at a shell, and there you go
[11:32] <pixelation> I've never used it tho... is it drag and drop or?
[11:32] <stdin> pixelation: not a clue, but you can ask in #winehq
[11:32] <LjL> no it's a tree view
[11:32] <pixelation> so if I type regedit... then do I just copy my new reg entry at the bottom?
[11:33] <LjL> hm no you edit keys and values
[11:33] <pixelation> k thanks.
[11:33] <savtronic> hi
[11:33] <LjL> but
[11:33] <LjL> pixelation, i suppose it has options for adding a .reg file automatically, if that's what you have
[11:33] <pixelation> yes... I have two reg files
[11:33] <stdin> one good reason to choose linux, no registry :)
[11:34] <pixelation> yeah...
[11:34] <stdin> (unless you use gnome)
[11:34] <stdin> :P
[11:34] <LjL> i was going to say that
[11:34] <LjL> pixelation: Registry / Import registry file <- should do the trick
[11:34] <dethklok> I typed regedit and it opened the registry of my other hdd lol
[11:34] <jhutchins> regedit
[11:35] <pixelation> sweet, I'll try to figure out that way :)
[11:35] <mervteck> hey guys
[11:36] <Thehound666> I should keep Kubuntu tiny and make a large FAT32 partition right?
[11:36] <Thehound666> If I dual boot
[11:36] <HymnToLife> !hi | mervteck
[11:36] <ubotwo> mervteck: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:36] <Thehound666> so that both OS can grab files
[11:37] <LjL> Thehound666: tiny, perhaps not...
[11:37] <LjL> a FAT32 partition is certainly a common choice for data exchange
[11:37] <LjL> however, Windows can read and even write ext3 with the right software, although i suppose writing at least can't quite be recommended
[11:37] <Thehound666> but I could just point my torrent client to the mounted partition, correct?
[11:37] <LjL> and so can Linux do with NTFS, though that's hard to set up and even more dangerous
[11:38] <Thehound666> oh it can read eh?
[11:38] <Thehound666> all I need
[11:38] <Thehound666> what do I need to get?
[11:38] <LjL> !ext3 | Thehound666
[11:38] <ubotwo> Thehound666: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:38] <HymnToLife> TheGateKeeper, google for "ext2ifs"
[11:38] <LjL> there are others too, google "windows ext3" and "windows ext2"
[11:39] <Thehound666> nice bot
[11:39] <Thehound666> he knows everything
[11:39] <HymnToLife> !ubotwo
[11:39] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:39] <LjL> !ubotwo is <alias> ubotu
[11:39] <ubotwo> LjL: I'll remember that, LjL
[11:44] <dope> is there another program like kompose but faster that i can use?
[11:44] <adaran> is there any way i can stop adept (especially the notifier) from updating a package?
[11:45] <LjL> !pinning | adaran
[11:45] <ubotwo> adaran: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:46] <kub24> Someone can tell me, can Kubuntu Burn, or converd .dmg files to ISO ?
[11:52] <dope> is there anyway to see what a shortcut key is bound to?
[11:53] <stdin> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts ?
[11:55] <dethklok> !themes
[11:55] <ubotwo> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> HymnToLife, think you got the wrong person :p
[11:56] <Eyeless> is there a way to make a single packege available from a repository? (ie i want just flash9 from backports)
[11:57] <adamwest> he
[11:57] <adamwest> *y
[11:57] <Eyeless> lo
[11:58] <dope> do some of the plugins not work in kopete?
[11:58] <dope> like spell check and the translator?
[11:59] <adamwest> umm what's the KDE official irc channel?
[11:59] <stdin> adamwest: #kde
[11:59] <adaran> Eyeless, i assume downloading the package and installing is not an option?
[11:59] <adamwest> in ubuntu? where
[12:00] <Eyeless> adaran: i rather not:P
[12:00] <adaran> Eyeless, well, i'm no expert on pinning, but i guess you could try setting a low priority for the whole repository, then raising it again for a single package
[12:00] <LjL> adamwest: uh?
[12:00] <adaran> Eyeless, not sure if that'll work though - but i think it could =)
[12:00] <adamwest> nm, thanks stdin and LjL
[12:01] <Eyeless> hmm, k. maybe installing a single package is easierthen
[12:01] <stdin> Eyeless: you could enable the repo, then just choose to upgrade flashplugin-nonfree then disable the repo
[12:01] <Eyeless> i ruined my last kubuntu install by installing lots of stuff from backports, si i thought that maybe this time i could keep the no of packageslow
[12:02] <dethklok> how do i install new kde themes? is it hard?
[12:02] <DJ_T_DoG> hi ppl
[12:03] <dethklok> !themes
[12:03] <flaccid> jucy?
[12:03] <ubotwo> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:03] <stdin> dethklok: nope, just follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:04] <Eyeless> stdin: i think ill do that, if it whines later i can deal with it then :D
[12:05] <karmikaze> !compiz
[12:05] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:05] <stdin> Eyeless: it should be fine
[12:05] <DJ_T_DoG> i got some problem. i have an ati rage 128 and when i chose that from the drivers and clicked on test, the image got all messed up and i had to forcefully reboot. then it chose a 640xsomething as max definition and the driver is vesa ou somethin. when i changed that again it did the same as before and when i tried vga it rebooted into a command line
[12:05] <DJ_T_DoG> how can i get the desktop back
[12:05] <DJ_T_DoG> ?
[12:06] <DJ_T_DoG> ...
[12:07] <stdin> DJ_T_DoG: you need to reconfigure the X server, to use another driver probably
[12:07] <DJ_T_DoG> how do i do that?
[12:07] <stdin> DJ_T_DoG: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:07] <DJ_T_DoG> i'm a newbie in kubuntu or linux at all
[12:08] <dope> skippy!
[12:09] <DJ_T_DoG> but why does the image gets all messed up when i test the ati rage 128 driver?
[12:09] <stdin> no clue, I don't have an ATI graphics card
[12:10] <DJ_T_DoG> k
[12:10] <dope> anyone in here use skippy?
[12:10] <DJ_T_DoG> now from the comand line how do i reboot?
[12:10] <dope> can't get the blasted thing to work
[12:11] <stdin> DJ_T_DoG: sudo shutdown -r now
[12:11] <DJ_T_DoG> thanks!
[12:11] <stdin> yw :)
[12:12] <DJ_T_DoG> do i need to instal any antivirus or firewall?
[12:12] <DJ_T_DoG> (for secure web browsing)
[12:12] <Goliath23> hi
[12:12] <Goliath23> I have icon-preview of image files but not on video files, can I change that?
[12:13] <stdin> DJ_T_DoG: not really, you can install a firewall if you want, but you don't need an antivirus
[12:13] <DJ_T_DoG> k
[12:13] <DJ_T_DoG> thanks
[12:13] <stdin> no problem :)
[12:14] <vbgunz> I cannot create a thunderbird account that actually works!
[12:14] <vbgunz> anyone, anybody know whats up here?
[12:14] <pgdown> any ideas on how I can preload firefox to open as fast as konqueror?


[00:40] <dtchen> spO: err, it shouldn't. see 'git tag|grep Ubuntu'
[00:50] <Q-FUNK> hi!  am I dreaming this or is initramfs grabbing the drm modules of whichever video card is currently used by $DISPLAY ?
[03:39] <spO> hi
[03:40] <spO>  git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git   gives me kernel 2.6.28-10 instead of kernel 2.6.28-15   .... even make menuconfig shows version 2.6.28-10  , and when i compile it is   version 10
[05:12] <spO>  git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git   gives me kernel 2.6.28-10 instead of kernel 2.6.28-15   .... even make menuconfig shows version 2.6.28-10  , and when i compile it is   version 10
[07:27] <spO>   git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git   gives me kernel 2.6.28-10 instead of kernel 2.6.28-15   .... even make menuconfig shows version 2.6.28-10  , and when i compile it is   version 10
[08:53] <AnnonyMouse> hi guys. my 1st kernel build. "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers" fails with: http://pastebin.com/d51a9e5e0
[08:53] <AnnonyMouse> what am i missing?
[09:32] <spO> annoymouse, when you do a make menuconfig, what version does it say?
[09:32] <spO> at the top of the menu
[09:34] <spO> annonymous, anyways, go to menu then go to supplied third party device drivers, then check your LIRC configurations
[12:23] <cwillu> apw, update on the crashy laptop suspend from hell, wiping the ext4 partition and rsyncing a backup to a freshly made ext4 partition didn't fix it, I still get crashes a while after I resume from suspend
[12:23] <cwillu> I think it was you I was talking to
[12:23] <cwillu> bug #380807
[12:23] <ubot3> Malone bug 380807 in linux "[karmic, intel] Laptop locks up moments after resuming from suspend" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380807
[20:16] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[20:17] <mattwj2002> I found some guys in the kernel and I would like to help fix it in a future release
[20:17] <mattwj2002> can someone please help me do this?
[20:17] <mattwj2002> *I found some bugs in the kernel
[20:23] <mattwj2002> In Ubuntu 9.04 I found two bugs in the Ralink wireless drivers
[20:23] <ScottK> Did you file the bugs?
[20:23] <mattwj2002> rt2860sta in the wireless drivers there is no support for wpa
[20:23] <mattwj2002> rt2870sta in the wireless drivers there is no support 802.11n
[20:24] <mattwj2002> no I did not
[20:24] <ScottK> That would be the first thing to do.
[20:24] <mattwj2002> where would I file these bugs?
[20:26] <ScottK> mattwj2002: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[20:27] <dtchen> mattwj2002: you probably want to work directly in wireless-testing.git
[20:28] <mattwj2002> how would I do that?
[20:29] <dtchen> mattwj2002: http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers
[20:30] <mattwj2002> I guess all I am reporting is stock 9.04 Ubuntu the wireless drivers were not working correctly.....in one case it wasn't accepting wpa.....another wireless nic was running at g speeds when it is an n card......I noticed when I compiled the cards from scratch that there were options to be selected....my assumation is that they were not selected correctly
[20:32] <dtchen> what do you mean by "compiled the cards from scratch?"
[20:33] <dtchen> we use what's in /staging
[20:33] <mattwj2002> I used the source from the card's website
[20:33] <mattwj2002> http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[20:34] <mattwj2002> with some help from this guide
[20:34] <mattwj2002> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6587173#post6587173
[20:39] <mattwj2002> does that make sense?
[20:39] <dtchen> to what does "that" refer?  (i'm pretty busy atm)
[20:40] <mattwj2002> haha
[20:40] <mattwj2002> so do you guys think this is bug worthy?
[20:41] <dtchen> feel free to file wishlist bugs (if they don't existt), as ScottK mentioned
[20:41] <mattwj2002> ok
[20:42] <mattwj2002> thanks you guys