[08:10] <tha_toadman> it's over mine too :-)
[08:10] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ dont ask to ask. What is the problem.
[08:10] <soundray> orionrobots: when that happens, there is usually an additional packagename-doc package that contains the extended info pages.
[08:10] <zero88> anyone know how to install the ieee8021 subsystem properly??
[08:10] <ubuntu_> The newest uptade for ubuntu-generic (last night) crashed my PC.
[08:10] <orionrobots> Soundray - hmm I will try that..
[08:10] <cables> ikaruga, I have no idea... it sounds like a bug.
[08:10] <ubuntu_> im on live CD and i need to recover ><
[08:10] <kitche> ubuntu_: what video card do you have?
[08:10] <orionrobots> Found what I was looking for - it was in man for grub-update.
[08:10] <ubuntu_> NVIDIA 5200
[08:10] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  this is a fresh install ?
[08:10] <ubuntu_> no
[08:10] <vox754> yeniklasor: you can try "gnome-character-map" and "gnome-keyboard-properties" and click layout to see the available buttons
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: you using the binary driver?
[08:11] <ubuntu_> im on lve CD
[08:11] <ubuntu_> im using the driver that came with ubuntu.
[08:11] <ubuntu_> but the new update ruined it.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: which one nv or nvidia
[08:11] <yeniklasor> OK
[08:11] <ubuntu_> nvidia
[08:11] <Hoosteen> cables: well it's plugging away..hehe..thanks for your help and advice..from now on, i'll check the repos first
[08:11] <ubuntu_> not nv.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: since the bianry driver for nvidia is broken
[08:11] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ You are seeing what we are all seeing. That will be the restricted drivers you have. The nvidia module is hosed with the new kernel.
[08:11] <cables> Hoosteen, you can use Synaptic to search packages.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: just edit your xorg.conf to nv for now
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Dont bother
[08:12] <ubuntu_> to nv?...
[08:12] <Pelo> gotta go, lager folks
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ use the old kernel if you still have it.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> nv is not goin to fix it...
[08:12] <Hoosteen> cables: yeah..i'm just so new to this..i dunno what i'm doing really...lol....but i'm learning...
[08:12] <ubuntu_> orion... how do i use the old kernel?..
[08:12] <ubuntu_> ugh i knew i shouldn't have updated.
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Grub will let you select the old kernel. Press escape as you boot to get a menu.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> yeah
[08:13] <ubuntu_> and pick the 2nd generic on the menu?
[08:13] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ I am glad I only updated one sacrificial machine - that I am now going to switch back.
[08:13] <kitche> ubuntu_: also nv lets you get into X witht he new kernel you can always use the old kernel if you want direct rendering
[08:13] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Yes.
[08:13] <vox754> ubuntu_: we've been saying this the whole day...
[08:13] <Stormx2> What do you all use for ripping CDs?
[08:13] <ubuntu_> vox..
[08:13] <orionrobots> Kitche - nv is great if you dont like direct rendering, video or 3D. I would prefer a free module that did though.
[08:13] <ubuntu_> last night i updated
[08:13] <ubuntu_> and i was tryin to fix my pc until i fell asleep.
[08:13] <Yodude> hey i don't understna dhwta they said anyway my prob is not that complicated
[08:13] <ubuntu_> is there goin to be another update?...
[08:14] <cables> Sounds like yesterday's update pretty much sucked...
[08:14] <orionrobots> kitche - hence switching to the old kernel is a much better option for now. I am not sure what the new kernel gives me yet. Only a host of probs so far.
[08:14] <kitche> orionrobots: no clue why you said video since nv works fine for video unless you mean something else
[08:14] <Yodude> when i run the driver file in the terminal it says it needs root
[08:14] <Stormx2> what happened with yesterdays update?
[08:14] <orionrobots> kitche - Tearing and choppines.
[08:14] <lupine_85> bear wirth me
[08:14] <vox754> ubuntu_: nop, don't know, keep trying... good luck... good coffee...
[08:14] <Yodude> how can i offer it root access?
[08:14] <Yodude> ( i tried running it in root terminal)
[08:14] <ubuntu_> kitche... it used to be nv but that would let X start either, so i switched it to nvidia
[08:14] <yeniklasor> And how can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example wine .../Program Files/MoonStar/
[08:14] <Stormx2> Yodude: sudo
[08:14] <BigMac> is there a way to have evolution may display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:14] <kitche> orionrobots: ah I don't get any of that even with nv but anyways with each kernel the driver has to be reinstalled
[08:14] <Stormx2> !sudo | Yodude
[08:14] <ubotu> Yodude: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:14] <jimi_hendrixx> alguem fala portugues aqui?
[08:15] <LjL> !pt | jimi_hendrixx
[08:15] <ubotu> jimi_hendrixx: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:15] <Yodude> you don't understand
[08:15] <orionrobots> kitche - I use the restricted modules deb, not the manual install
[08:15] <Yodude> i double-clicked the file
[08:15] <BigMac> *is there a way to have evolution mily display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:15] <orionrobots> kitche - so it actually should have been covered in the update.
[08:15] <Yodude> it gave me the option to run in terminal
[08:15] <yeniklasor> How can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example ".../Program Files/MoonStar/"
[08:15] <Yodude> i clicked it
[08:15] <BigMac> **is there a way to have evolution mail display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:15] <Yodude> and it said it needs root
[08:15] <Yodude> so i can't add the sudo here
[08:15] <jimi_hendrixx> LjL: the problem is nobody speak
[08:15] <ubuntu_> alright gonna try my chances with the grub selection
[08:15] <ubuntu_> brb
[08:16] <LjL> !br | jimi_hendrixx
[08:16] <ubotu> jimi_hendrixx: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:16] <kitche> orionrobots: umm the nvidia module has to be recompiled each time the kernel gets updated and they didn't make one
[08:16] <seraphim> BigMac: you could use mail-notification - that looks at your pop-boxes and displays new mails in the tray
[08:16] <LjL> jimi_hendrixx: ah sorry, well try #ubuntu-br too, not only #ubuntu-pt
[08:16] <vox754> jimi_hendrixx: that's too bad, you should talk to your friends so more people decide to talk
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> i try both
[08:16] <orionrobots> kitche - And that is the problem. For now - I advise skipping the update until its sorted, or switching to the old one in the grub menu.
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> LjL:  i try both
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> but nobody speak
[08:17] <jimi_hendrixx> talk
[08:17] <BigMac> seraphim: what option menu is that under?
[08:17] <soundray> Yodude: are you listening?
[08:17] <orionrobots> kitche - Since I use 3D apps (GL development and so on) nv will get me absolutely nowhere...
[08:17] <lupine_85> ok, weird
[08:17] <lupine_85> the files are up there
[08:17] <seraphim> BigMac: it's a small program, you can install it via synaptic or apt
[08:17] <BigMac> and on another note, why is the tab key so unresponsive in ubuntu, as in I have to hit it like 5 times before it actuallly tabs
[08:17] <lupine_85> but I'm not seeing the .11 update from mine /or/ security.
[08:17] <ahave> i used a sudo -s command to become root for installation of some progs, now i do not want to be root anymore. how do i remove this?
[08:18] <Yodude> soudary yes
[08:18] <vox754> Yodude: you can run everything from the terminal so it is useful to learn how to use it first. If you are using nautilus you can see what permissions you have but you may change them only with the terminal.
[08:18] <kitche> ahave close the terminal
[08:18] <orionrobots> ahave - or just type exit
[08:18] <BigMac> seraphim: And clicking that box that pops up will open my evolution mail box
[08:18] <orionrobots> ahave - or press ctrl-d
[08:18] <ahave> ah! yes, exit
[08:18] <ahave> thanks
[08:18] <Yodude> i just need to give the file root access man
[08:18] <ProN00b> if i have eth0, eth1 and ppp0, what connection is tried first when i try to connect to an ip ? (and how can i influence that ?
[08:18] <Yodude> i spent a good time downloading it why won't it work
[08:18] <soundray> Yodude: no you don't
[08:18] <Stormx2> Yodude: Giving a file root access? o.o
[08:19] <soundray> Yodude: you need to install drivers from ubuntu, not from nvidia
[08:19] <seraphim> BigMac: nearly ;D there's no box popping up, just a small envelope in the tray. hovering it displays sender an title, klicking opens your mail-program
[08:19] <yeniklasor> How can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example ".../Program Files/MoonStar/"
[08:19] <Yodude> lol but i asked someone b4 n they said it works and nvidia says it works
[08:19] <yeniklasor> Program Files has space and terminal don't see i
[08:19] <yeniklasor> it
[08:19] <soundray> Yodude: watch out, ubotu will send you a link with instructions:
[08:19] <soundray> !nvidia > Yodude
[08:19] <Stormx2> yeniklasor: You can either escape it (\ ) or just use quotes, e.g. cd "Program Files" or cd 'Program Files'
[08:20] <ahave> another question.. lets say i want to launch FF from the terminal, but i want the terminal to continue to be active. what command will do that?
[08:20] <seraphim> yeniklasor: ".../Program\ Files/..."
[08:20] <orionrobots> I gotta go. Nice chatting with you.
[08:20] <Stormx2> yeniklasor: The first example would be cd Program\ Files
[08:20] <soundray> Yodude: do yourself a favor, forget what you've heard and follow the detailed instructions in those links
[08:20] <kitche> ahave: firefox & you want the &
[08:20] <ahave> ah, thanks again :)
[08:20] <vox754> ProN00b: I think you may check "gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[08:20] <Yodude> but they say i have to download it from the repository
[08:21] <Yodude> do i need to again? oh man!
[08:21] <soundray> Yodude: it's your best chance of getting it to work.
[08:21] <Yodude> my connection is only 7KB it takes a "while" to download
[08:21] <BigMac> seraphim: the name is mail-notification? because when I type that and hit enter I get nothing
[08:21] <kitche> Yodude if you upgraded your kernel don't bother installed the nvidia driver that is in the repo at least for right now
[08:22] <vox754> ahave: if you've got time you may try to read "man sh". It is long, but it may give you some insight to the shell. "man bash" is much longer.
[08:22] <ahave> yet again.. is there a way to hotkey a button for a terminal? say make F12 pop up a term?
[08:22] <seraphim> BigMac: use "sudo apt-get install mail-notification-evolution"
[08:22] <ahave> vox754, alright. i will check that out when i have the time
[08:22] <EnsignRedshirt> ahave: Yes (re: hotkey)
[08:23] <seraphim> BigMac: i'm not sure how it works with evolution, i use thunderbird as mail-client
[08:23] <BigMac> oh ok
[08:23] <ahave> vox754, still slow on getting use to the linux thing.. im on day 2!! :D
[08:23] <yaman> please i need another link for this camera driver https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=185953  cause i can't get my laptop cam work and i need it to work
[08:23] <vox754> ahave: welcome. Press "Alt+F2" then type "gnome-terminal"
[08:23] <soundray> ahave: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts, last option in Desktop
[08:24] <sigger_> trying to mount an nfs share on my LAN via ubuntu desktop,  I asked earlier and was told Sys, Admin, Shared Folders.  That seems to be for exporting, not mounting remote share.  Anyone?
[08:24] <BigMac> ok seraphim, I installed it, now how do I open it because I don't see it in the bar
[08:25] <sigger_> oh and I already loaded nfs-common,etc
[08:25] <seraphim> BigMac: "mail-notification" ;)
[08:25] <jnex26> hi all again,
[08:25] <vox754> sigger_: sorry, too many newbies here... but if you get it to work let us know.
[08:25] <niek> Hi
[08:25] <ahave> wow. thanks again vox754 and soundray
[08:25] <davin> Should I use kdecore or kde-base if I want to add KDE without apps?
[08:25] <sigger_> vox754: hehe. sure.
[08:26] <seraphim> BigMac: i put it into system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup programs
[08:26] <soundray> !nfs | sigger_
[08:26] <ubotu> sigger_: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:26] <BigMac> ok I will try to figure out how to do that
[08:26] <niek> Does Ubuntu support dual display?
[08:26] <ahave> one last Q, then i go read-up some more.. yesterday ubuntu lockedup on me when i inserted my pcmica card.. does ubuntu not allow hot-swaping? or was this a fluke. and how should i go about fixing this, drivers to be updated?
[08:27] <jnex26> can anyone please help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2135077#post2135077
[08:27] <vox754> niek: you kidding? Linux invented cereal and dual display the same day...
[08:27] <niek> lol
[08:28] <niek> okay
[08:28] <niek> Hm. Other problem
[08:28] <EnsignRedshirt> niek: Depends what you mean by "support".  You can do it, but it is not automatic.  You'll have to tweak xorg.conf
[08:28] <gop> any here know if I could use virtualbox images in vmplayer
[08:28] <gop> !vmserver
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <gop> !vmwareserver
[08:29] <jexdawg13> i just installed ATI drivers using Envy and now when i start ubuntu it loads and right before the actual desktop comes up, my screen turns off... but ubuntu is still running - i can even hear the "startup" noise. how can i fix it? any ideas?
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwareserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <gop> !Envy
[08:29] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:29] <niek> I have a new computer (get it for my birthday) and my old pc was 1152*864 (resolution) now, the new pc, has the same monitor, but it cant handle 1152*864!? (I cant select it in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution)
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> !twinview | niek
[08:29] <ubotu> niek: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:29] <BigMac> seraphim:sorry to be such a noob, but where is this file stored?
[08:30] <yeniklasor> How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:30] <phichipsi> hi, is there any tool with graphical interface that i could use to resize a few images to a special size at one time? i know there is gimp and co but i would like to just select the pics and then set a size t owhich they are resized
[08:30] <zero88> whats the command if u are installing something and you dont know the name of your kernel headers is it   'u name' -r or somehting liek that?
[08:30] <vox754> niek: you probably have a wrong driver, or wrong options; you need to know how to edit "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:31] <vox754> gop: you're back. How is it going?
[08:31] <gop> everything find
[08:31] <gop> fine
[08:31] <Sanne> zero88: uname -r
[08:31] <gop> do I recall yo
[08:31] <gop> err do  I recall you
[08:31] <niek> Hm. I edited it, and inserted my resolution on all color depths. But it doesnt work (not even after a reboot! :o )
[08:31] <zero88> sanne thanks but dont i put them in " " or these ' '
[08:31] <Sanne> zero88: sec, I have to check something
[08:31] <sigger_> fwiw, ubuntu wiki only has info on mounting nfs drives via command line.  no gui/desktop stuff.
[08:32] <zero88> ok
[08:32] <morfar> gay
[08:32] <yeniklasor>  How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:32] <EnsignRedshirt> zero88: I think you mean `uname -r`
[08:32] <gop> I am back
[08:32] <BigMac> seraphim: Do you mind if I pm you because keeping up with stuff out here is near impossible
[08:32] <Sanne> zero88: if you want to use it in a command, use it as: $(uname -r)
[08:32] <zero88> yes thanks ensignredshirt and thans sanne
[08:32] <zero88> becuse im potting a build to where i put my ieee80211 sources
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: example: sudo apt-get install linux-resticted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:33] <andreas__> Hi. Does anyone know the name of the app that lies as a printer and allows the creation of PDF files from within any printeable application???
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: for a quick test, type: echo $(uname -r)
[08:33] <vox754> gop: yep, I live in your basement
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: now I'm done ;)
[08:33] <yeniklasor> you can Create PDF with openoffice
[08:33] <zero88> sanne k
[08:33] <zero88> sanne thanks
[08:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Sanne: The single back-quotes also work.
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: you're welcome :)
[08:33] <seraphim> BigMac: i'm not registered in this network, so you can't pm me (at least i can't pm you ;) )
[08:33] <andreas__> Well... I want to create PDF files from within FF
[08:33] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:33] <niek> anyone have a solution for me?
[08:33] <NotWired> every time i install an X related font I get a warning about missing folders... should I worry about this?
[08:34] <andreas__> I believe its called lib-something
[08:34] <Sanne> EnsignRedshirt: I read it's deprecated (and really a nuisance on german keyboards ;)
[08:34] <BigMac> seraphim: Do you have yahoo/msn/aim?
[08:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Sanne: Ah, I didn't know that.  Thanks.
[08:34] <Sanne> EnsignRedshirt: but you're right, of course
[08:34] <seraphim> BigMac: only icq ... 117036506
[08:34] <omgsunny> hello i am running edgy on my laptop and i would like  connect s-video to my laptop and watch it on my tv.  how can i do this?
[08:34] <ShiftyPowers> guys, to test out feisty, I can simply replace edgy with feisty in my sources.list right? at least for the official repos?
[08:35] <seraphim> BigMac: we could join #akljghauilvhaskg
[08:35] <yeniklasor>  How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:35] <drake> Hello, I am using a Realtek on-board audio card which fortunately has been detected and is usable. However, the sound output is very low. Any solutions? Thanks.
[08:35] <vox754> andreas__, try "PDF Creator" or something like that, search the internet for Open CD, then look a the program there, and find Linux equivalent.
[08:35] <jnex26> hello can anyone help me with this
[08:35] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=213507 Please it's about network performance I should beable to download at 600+K i'm now running at a steady 19K
[08:35] <ubuntu> ralall
[08:36] <zero88> im trying to build a ipe3945 driver,and it is asking me to point where my ieee80211 sources are,but there are several locattions.what should i do?
[08:36] <EnsignRedshirt> ShiftyPowers: You might want to look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[08:36] <omgsunny> how do you send video through s-video on laptop, to watch on tv?
[08:36] <ShiftyPowers> EnsignRedshirt, just saw that
[08:36] <ShiftyPowers> thanks bud
[08:37] <andreas__> Vox754 > Well that`ll mean a stand-alone program. I`m looking for one that identifies as a printer. Had it before but changed to pclinuxos and didn`t write down the name of the app.
[08:37] <Sanne> andreas__: for kubuntu/kde there's kprinter that supplies a pdf printer, if you don't mind to install kde apps. Or, you could print to file (*.ps) and use pstopdf (or ps2pdf?) to convert.
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> ShiftyPowers: And don't forget that if you decide you don't like it, your stuck.  I don't think there is a "downgrade" option, other than reinstall.
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> *you're
[08:38] <niek> Did i forget something or what? Because i really want 1152*864 on my computer, not 1024*768. :(
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> He left... I'm sure he knew that. :)
[08:38] <andreas__> Sanne > Thanks! I believe it`s ps2pdf
[08:38] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2135077#post2135077 here is the correct link please help me
[08:38] <coucou54> bonjour
[08:39] <coucou54> Quelqu'un pourrait m'expliquer comment faire pour qu'un site heberg sur un pc personnel soit accessible depuis internet ?
[08:39] <LoveDuckie> hey there
[08:39] <omgsunny> niek, i have the same problem, do you know how to get 1280x800
[08:39] <Sanne> andreas__: if you go the kprinter route, you would put "kprinter" in "Print command" in the printer properties.
[08:40] <niek> No. I have no idea. omgsunny. I want a higher res, but i cant get it. And nobody has a solution for me :(
[08:40] <vox754> andreas__: I currently have that program installed on my XP partition, and it IS recognized as a printer. I had tested it on Internet Explorer and Firefox, not here in Ubuntu, though.
[08:40] <omgsunny> niek, i had found something about this, and tried it but go no results.  i can't remember the name of it now.
[08:40] <Sanne> andreas__: there's also cups-pdf (PDF printer for CUPS, universe), but I haven't used it and don't know how it works.
[08:41] <niek> did you tried dpkr-reconfigure xserver-xorg omgsunny?
[08:41] <vox754> Sanne: the guy left, you know...
[08:41] <niek> *dpkr = dpkg
[08:41] <niek> i thought it was that command.
[08:41] <jason__> After searching for a while, I now understand that the VNC setup on ubuntu is referred to as "vino". However what I really need to know is, where is the logfile for vino connections?
[08:41] <Sanne> vox754: always when I'm not looking!! Gaaaah. Thanks ;)
[08:41] <vox754> Sanne: feels bad, I know...
[08:42] <drake> How I can increase the volume of my sound card. Is very low and the volume is 100%
[08:42] <sigger_> andreas: when you were using the pdf prog you're trying to re-find, do you recall if it allowed for security (e.g. no copy, no printing)?
[08:42] <Sanne> vox754: yes, they are all so hasty sometimes, those young'uns ;)
[08:42] <lizardman> about vnc, how do i make it look at another port than the default?
[08:43] <vox754> sigger_, andreas, left you know...
[08:43] <omgsunny> niek, no
[08:43] <sigger_> oh, missed it.  thx
[08:43] <assasukasse> hi everyone, i wish to connect via SSH to my pc, but i don't want to use the password, i prefer the file autentication system, how can i do it?
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: do you mean the key based authentication?
[08:43] <assasukasse> moreover, i can SSH on any port or i am obliged to 22?
[08:43] <assasukasse> harisund exactly
[08:43] <jnex26> anyone have any ideas !!!!!
[08:43] <zero88> can someone help me with a quick issue building a driver with the ieee80211??
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: no, you can ssh to any port as long as you acn setup the server to listen on that port
[08:43] <jason__> lizardman: if you mean using the vncviewer, just append the port number to the end of the address. like... <IP_ADDRESS>:5902
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: you want me to walk you through it?
[08:44] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:44] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:44] <assasukasse> thanks harisund
[08:44] <poohma> drake: double-klick on speaker icon and check what volume they're all set to
[08:44] <assasukasse> harisund i am in front of the pc so if u have time i can be swift
[08:44] <harisund> assasukasse: ok, first, what's the situation? Do you have a Ubuntu box (with root access) that has SSH server installed?
[08:44] <exs> guys, what is that opensource windows app that is usd to convert mp3s??
[08:44] <assasukasse> yep
[08:44] <lizardman> no i mean the server actually
[08:44] <harisund> assasukasse: so do you want to beign with changing the port number, or do you want the key based authentication to be done first?
[08:44] <assasukasse> harisund yes i have edgy eft with openssh server installed
[08:45] <assasukasse> port first
[08:45] <exs> nevermind, razor lame
[08:45] <Clubbed> hi, I am unable to mount my cdrom drive by just putting a cd in, I also cannot access it from Computer, it says it cannot open fstab-permission denied. but when i type sudo umount -t iso9660 /dev/hda  /media/cdrom0
[08:45] <Clubbed>  it mounts
[08:45] <harisund> assasukasse: ok good. I am assuming you are familiar with the whole sudo thing?
[08:45] <yeniklasor> ok Is there any way to edit symbolic links?
[08:45] <vox754> harisund: if you are going to guide him I suggest moving to a private channel like #harisund ; just my opinion.
[08:45] <assasukasse> harisund yes
[08:45] <harisund> vox754: good idea (again :))
[08:46] <harisund> assasukasse: I just messaged you ... did you get that message?
[08:47] <jnex26> hello any help from anyone AT ALL
[08:47] <alexd> hi
[08:47] <FingerPie> relax
[08:47] <phaedra> Clubbed, Check to see if your user is in the cdrom group.
[08:47] <matjan> hi, where can i find the directory with the kernel headers? i just updated to 2.6.15-28 and need to reconfigure vmware now
[08:47] <ptrg> hi everyone, wondering if i could get help with a kxdocker problem. i've googled it but i can't seem to find a solution there is a big black box around it when i mouseover the dock, any ideas?
[08:47] <vox754> jnex26: sorry, sometimes it's hard... keep trying...
[08:47] <jnex26> figerpie - can you help me
[08:48] <Aggrav8d> anyone here good with proftpd virtual servers?  I have one server running but my second one refuses to give a welcome message so clients just timeout.
[08:48] <jnex26> i just need pointing in the right direction
[08:48] <Clubbed> phaedra he's in "admin" group
[08:48] <wiredog[mobile] > hi folks
[08:48] <jason__> matjan: did you look in /usr/src ?
[08:48] <Clubbed> and has cd rom privilages
[08:48] <wiredog[mobile] > does anyone know how ubuntu loads modules during the boot process ?
[08:48] <Sanne> mat: you need to install them separately. whenthey are installed, you can look in Synaptic where the files went (under package properties)
[08:48] <matjan> jason__, yes, but there i only find the directories for 2.6.15-27
[08:49] <Sanne> mat: sorry
[08:49] <Sanne> matjan: you need to install them separately. whenthey are installed, you can look in Synaptic where the files went (under package properties)
[08:49] <phaedra> Clubbed, Edit the cdrom group and add the user there.
[08:49] <vox754> matjan, use "locate header"
[08:49] <Betatux> wiredog : is it 'depmod' you looking for ?
[08:49] <wiredog[mobile] > because i`d like to prevent the wireless module ipw2200 from beeing loaded during boot
[08:49] <drayen> has anyone managed to get mysql-workbench working in 6.10?
[08:49] <zero88> DO i have to chmod these files if i get this message, but they are there in the in-tree location?   cp: cannot stat `{*.c,in-tree/{Makefile,Kconfig},compat.h}': No such file or directory
[08:50] <Clubbed> phaedra, i dont have a cd rom group,s hould i really have one?
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > right now ubuntu loads the driver module by default
[08:50] <kitche> wiredog[mobile] : blacklist it
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > blacklist aint what i want
[08:50] <gabriela> hi
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > because i want to load it manual
[08:51] <gabriela> can i use kde and gnome in the same computer?
[08:51] <matjan> vox754, when i do 'locate 2.6.15-28', it finds nothing...
[08:51] <mjr> yes
[08:51] <gabriela> i just want to tray kde
[08:51] <lizardman> I was trying to make the vnc server listen to another port than the default
[08:51] <apecat> gabriela: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <gabriela> apecat im installing using synaptic
[08:52] <vox754> matjan, then you have nothing... are you sure you got the files? It may be a dumb question, but it's crucial...
[08:52] <gabriela> is it ok?
[08:52] <phaedra> Clubbed, Try this fstab entry : /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:52] <wiredog[mobile] > sou, no one knows how ubuntu decides to load modules during boot process ?
[08:52] <apecat> gabriela: well install the package kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <phaedra> Clubbed, Replace hdd with your drive.
[08:52] <mwe> matjan: locate only finds files in certain places
[08:52] <zero88> can someone tell me please what this means?   cp: cannot stat `{*.c,in-tree/{Makefile,Kconfig},compat.h}': No such file or directory
[08:52] <jason__> wiredog[mobile] : I'm no expert with modules, but I think to do what your wanting to do, you have to recompile the kernel and use the <M> option on the module in question. Although I could be compleatly wrong.
[08:52] <vox754> wiredog[mobile] : you blacklist the module, and you load it manually with "sudo modprobe ipn2200" or whichever you want.
[08:52] <Suspect> Hey everyone - Can someone tell me how to blacklist fglrx from the ubuntu updater please?
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: doesn't make any difference, i'd advice you to try that apt-get command, it'll do everything for you, even faster than with synaptic
[08:53] <gabriela> apecat i just choose kde and synaptic chooses everything else is downloding like 340 files
[08:53] <matjan> vox754, 'uname -r' tells me 2.6.15-28-386
[08:53] <Betatux> wiredog[mobile]  : # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: yes that's what it does
[08:53] <matjan> vox754, so i am pretty sure i have it
[08:53] <wiredog[mobile] > jason__, i already built my custom kernel (2.6.20)
[08:53] <mwe> zero88: it means cp is trying to copy a file that doesn't exist
[08:53] <Clubbed> phaedra do i need to reboot to apply the changes?
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: make sure that you install the package kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <apecat> it includes a lot of other packages
[08:53] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:53] <apecat> which makes up the kubuntu-customized kde
[08:54] <ptrg> anyone here know how to solve a problem with kxdocker where there is a large black box around it?
[08:54] <amonkey> i started azureus today and it's in russian now. what's going on?
[08:54] <zero88> mwe thanks, but those files do exist inside the in-tree folder, in the ieee80211 folder?
[08:54] <wiredog[mobile] > vox754, thx, i guess i give blacklisting a chance ... even if i dont like the idea
[08:54] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:54] <gabriela> apecat and once is installed how can i choose to start with one or the other? thanks
[08:54] <apecat> gabriela: if you install just kde you'll not get what you want. kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <zero88> mwe but is it looking somewhere else?
[08:54] <matjan> vox754, wait... i think i found the problem, the kernel is installed, the headers are not
[08:54] <apecat> gabriela: you will be able to select to start either a gnome or kde session in your login manager, gdm or kdm
[08:54] <wiredog[mobile] > Betatux, normaly i would expect ubuntu use the /etc/modules mechanism, but the module aint listed in that file
[08:54] <phaedra> Clubbed, Try to mount as user first.  You may have to reboot...  I can't remember if it'll be read in again without another comand.
[08:54] <Aggrav8d_> amonkey - the default language setting got changed somehow
[08:55] <wiredog[mobile] > so i wonder why its loaded nevertheless
[08:55] <mwe> zero88: I would think it's looking in the current working directory
[08:55] <amonkey> Aggrav8d, how do i change it back? in azureus? in ubuntu?
[08:55] <apecat> gabriela: if you just wanna try kde, you can stick with ubuntus default login manager, gdm. if you switch to kde later, you could enable kdm as default, just ask how
[08:55] <flayspray> Does anyone know the best way to share a partition mounted as a folder (/home/data) between 2 users on the same machine so that both users will be able to create, edit, and delete files within that folder and all it's child folders? I've looked into ACLs and umask but I can't seem to find a solution without having to change permissions every time manually..
[08:55] <vox754> matjan: the headers you need to compile, but I don't think you need them to run. Try "sudo aptitude install linux-headers"
[08:55] <LinTux> when I install a new theme what should the file format be that I open?
[08:55] <zero88> mwe i see,so i should be inside the in-tree directory
[08:55] <Aggrav8d_> amonkey - in azureus.
[08:55] <gabriela> ok
[08:56] <apecat> gabriela: the installation process will ask you to chose between gdm and kdem while installing all the packages that kubuntu-desktop includes
[08:56] <Clubbed> phaedra im still unable to mount it myself
[08:56] <mwe> zero88: I think. the parent of it. it says intree/blah
[08:56] <Sanne> gabriela: and just so you know, you can use kde apps in gnome and vice versa.
[08:56] <matjan> vox754, i see in synaptic that they are not installed, but i need them to reconfigure vmware
[08:56] <gabriela> i have a lot to learn
[08:56] <phaedra> Clubbed, You may need to reboot to have the new fstab recognized.
[08:56] <vox754> matjan: you see, simple questions, simple solutions; good work.
[08:56] <Clubbed> ok, will try
[08:56] <mwe> zero88: what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <amonkey> Aggrav8d_:  , looks like it was actually  armenian. thanks.
[08:57] <Sanne> gabriela: don't worry, you will :)
[08:57] <zero88> mwe,hm in the ieee80211 directory the command sudo make patch_kernel works,but doesnt find the files wich are in the in-tree location.when i sudo make patch_kernel in the in-tree directory i get   make: *** No rule to make target `patch_kernel'.  Stop.
[08:57] <zero88>
[08:57] <wiredog[mobile] > flayspray, put the two users in one group (eg. datausers), ans set the sticky bit for the group
[08:57] <Aggrav8d_> np
[08:57] <lymph> flayspray: can you make a group for the two users and set the directory permissions for that group?
[08:57] <gabriela> all the things that you said are new for me
[08:57] <matjan> vox754, you're right... thanks for being the punchbag ;-)
[08:57] <gabriela> where are you freom sanne and apecat?
[08:57] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[08:57] <apecat> gabriela: while i don't want to confuse you with unncecessary information, i want you to understand what the package kubuntu-desktop is. It's a meta package, which as the name implies doesn't contain anything but info about a bunch of other packages that you'll want to set up a proper kde desktop on ubuntu
[08:57] <zero88> mwe, im building my ipw3945 driver,wich cant find the ieee80211 sources wich ive tried to redirect for it wtih ieee80211_inc and such
[08:57] <Aggrav8d_> can anyone help me configure proftpd?  I've already asked in the official forums and they're not responding.
[08:57] <zero88> mwe but no luck yet
[08:58] <NoWhereMan> are you having issues with usb as I do? :(
[08:58] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution
[08:58] <vox754> matjan: I'm what? I'm gonna cut you!
[08:58] <chris^> ?
[08:58] <apecat> gabriela: fromt he internets ;)
[08:58] <mwe> zero88: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[08:58] <zero88> mwe so i was trying to do the other option wich was to patch the kernel
[08:58] <flayspray> wiredog and lymph: thanks... I'll go check out the sticky bit
[08:58] <apecat> gabriela: helsinki, finland
[08:58] <matjan> vox754, :-)
[08:58] <zero88> mwe i think i do,but im not sure,would you havppen to know whte command?
[08:58] <gabriela> im from mexico
[08:58] <mwe> zero88: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:58] <vox754> flayspray: set permissions for a group, then make the users part of that group.
[08:58] <pbureau> zero88,  you will need apt-get install build-essentials as well
[08:59] <apecat> gabriela: warmer than here i suppose :)
[08:59] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:59] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution?
[08:59] <mwe> pbureau: build-essential ;)
[08:59] <gabriela> let me get it this way, im using gnome right now but i just want to try kde is it ok with this computer, im mean nothing bad gonna happen?
[08:59] <pbureau> opps am I being typonese agin ?
[08:59] <jason__> does anyone know where I can find extremely detailed information for the vnc/vino system in gnome/ubuntu? I really want to find a logfile for vino, or at least configure vino so that it keeps a log. But all I am finding on the net, is simple tutorials on how to use the "remote desktop dialog". And man vino shows nothing, And the README for vino is equally useless.
[08:59] <gabriela> what do you mean apecat?
[08:59] <NoWhereMan> guys, nobody with usb issues with -11 update? :(
[08:59] <mwe> pbureau: should have been named build-essentials, though ;)
[08:59] <yeniklasor>  Is there any way to edit symbolic links?
[09:00] <apecat> gabriela: ehm well i congratulated you about the weather over at your place
[09:00] <mwe> yeniklasor: create a replacement link
[09:00] <pbureau> mwe,  I do a search on synaptic with build and it always finds it :) I am lazy
[09:00] <yeniklasor> how
[09:00] <zero88> mwe ok i am upgrading now
[09:00] <jnex26> please please please please please can anyone help me
[09:00] <apecat> gabriela: -17 degrees Celsius / 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit here at the moment
[09:00] <gabriela> today is cold here we are like 10 degrees C
[09:00] <zero88> pbureau i think i do have the buildessentials becuase i have the make command
[09:00] <wiredog[mobile] > well thx folks
[09:00] <mwe> yeniklasor: ln -fns file link
[09:01] <vox754> matjan: also "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:01] <mwe> yeniklasor: or remove the old one and use ln -s
[09:01] <gabriela> apecat here is colder that in your place
[09:01] <vox754> !offtopic > gabriela
[09:01] <gabriela> another quiestion i installed gajim
[09:01] <pbureau> lol I have the windows open right now....:)
[09:01] <gabriela> but i just dont know how to use it
[09:02] <gabriela> i mean none of my friends have it
[09:02] <gabriela> apecat still there?
[09:02] <apecat> gabriela: vox754 is trying to say that, while it's nice to talk about the wwather its hard to follwo a tech support discussion when somebody chats about the weather (and -17 is colder than 10 ;p)
[09:02] <apecat> gabriela: yes
[09:03] <gabriela> a ok sorry for that im a rookie here
[09:03] <mikey5555> bye
[09:03] <vox754> gabriela: short answers, yes KDE can fail, you need a tutorial for GAIM,
[09:03] <apecat> gabriela: no problem. good irc culture is one of the best kept secrets ;)
[09:04] <apecat> which you only learn by being a rookie at some point ;)
[09:04] <gabriela> is not gaim is gajim
[09:04] <mwe> !gajim
[09:04] <ubotu> gajim: Jabber client written in PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 2370 kB, installed size 7980 kB
[09:05] <alexd> hi i need some help
[09:05] <HP_Vue> I need some help! I just installed ubuntu on another computer, and I can't connect to the internet! I configured the setting properly and I disengaged ipv6 and it still dosn't work!
[09:05] <lizardman> Jason: what version of vino are you using?
[09:05] <starkillua> bonsoir
[09:05] <HP_Vue> SOme someone help
[09:05] <HP_Vue> Please
[09:05] <apollo13> I have got a little problem with my microfon, When I klick on Test for audio-capture (under system->preferences->sound) I get the following error: gconfaudiorsc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink \n profile=chat: Resource busy or not available Any ideas?
[09:06] <alexd> i was installing some stuff and the installer crashed, now my wifi card doesn't show up.  Can anyone help?
[09:06] <jason__> lizardman: one sec Il go look. and btw, for some reason your chat didnt show up in red for me. I hope i havnt missed other messages.
[09:06] <calavera> yuda
[09:06] <veracon_> Anyone know of a free utility for opening .rar files?
[09:07] <jason__> lizardman: Gnome vino 2.16.0
[09:07] <EnsignRedshirt> veracon_: unrar, I think.
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> veracon_ use apt to install unrar
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> then `unrar e <your file<`
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> >` *
[09:07] <apollo13> veracon_ unrar-free unrar rar
[09:07] <gabriela> dont remeber the name but in synaptic put rar and it will find the program
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> it is called unrar in apt
[09:07] <mwe> !unrar
[09:07] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:07] <veracon_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[09:07] <veracon_> Hm
[09:07] <gabriela> yeap unrar
[09:08] <Seveas> !-unrar
[09:08] <ubotu> unrar has no aliases - added by gnomefreak on 2006-07-31 21:54:02
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> veracon_ you need universe enabled
[09:08] <Seveas> ubotu!
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> maybe multiverse
[09:08] <veracon_> I'm pretty sure I do
[09:08] <veracon_> Ah
[09:08] <veracon_> Will try multiverse
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> non-free so probably multiverse
[09:08] <Seveas> !unrar =~ s/^/<reply>/
[09:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[09:08] <Seveas> !unrar
[09:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:08] <HP_Vue> Does ubuntu work w/ a wireless network?
[09:08] <apecat> !wireless
[09:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:08] <weslyr> is there a webpage where i can see which package versions are available? I'd like to see how up2date the available packages are (i'm not in ubuntu)
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yes HP_Vue though it may take some work to get your card working
[09:08] <Alarm> hello. is it normal my local ip to be <IP_ADDRESS> ? i mean when i ping localhost, it pings <IP_ADDRESS> , shouldnt it be <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:08] <michael> Can anyone help? May samba share doesn't want to work after I restarted it.
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> the atheros chipsets and most intel adapters work by default
[09:08] <nettuno43> !bluetooth
[09:08] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:09] <veracon_> Er, doesn't Edgy have a multiverse repos?
[09:09] <veracon_> Oh, wait
[09:09] <veracon_> typo, haha
[09:09] <jason__> lizardman: that is what shows up when I type "vino-preferences --version", If there is another command I am not seeing it.
[09:10] <TuGGer> Hi. I'm thinking of switching from mandriva 2006 to ubuntu. Couple of questions: can you use kde as default desktop? Where would I find a list of apps that can/are installed in default? Tia
[09:10] <veracon_> TuGGer, for KDE get Kubuntu
[09:10] <robdeman> gang I added a new harddrive
[09:10] <robdeman> my 50 gig was full
[09:10] <robdeman> so I added another 60 gigz to my 2nd IDE controller
[09:10] <apecat> TuGGer: you can browse packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com (both ubuntu and kubuntu packages)
[09:10] <robdeman> how do I mount it?
[09:11] <mwe> !mount | robdeman
[09:11] <ubotu> robdeman: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:11] <cefx_> Hey.  What's the best way to automatically detect a new display? Xorg -configure?  I don't know all the details of my actual display...unfortunately....
[09:11] <robdeman> I did create a ext3 partition on it
[09:11] <TuGGer> thanks that's what I needed!
[09:11] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution?
[09:11] <AndroidData> hi. using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. I installed vncserver and ran it on port 2500. I can connect locally using my LAN, but port 2500 is closed via the internet. I've forwarded the port through my router and I setup IPtables to allow specifically this port. what could be causing this?
[09:12] <veracon_> unrar worked perfectly, thanks all.
[09:12] <apecat> TuGGer: and, remember that ubuntu and kubuntu is the same thing with a different set of default install stuff for desktop stuff
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: In a terminal: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<partition> /mount/point/here
[09:12] <morfar> !DiskMounter
[09:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:13] <mnoir> I have a position/obscuring problem.  URI: http://smf.wrweb.net/  - code and css validate - buttons on the screen.  the bar that they are on is in the footer div and has a bg color set.  the footer is positioned using bottom: 2em.  this obscures the text at the bottom of the text area.    how do i get it behind the text?
[09:13] <mwe> chris^: go back to the working kernel or compile it yourself I guess. Until a fix is released
[09:13] <illriginal> guys i dunno how to fix my sound... and im using the alsamixer to jack up the volume.
[09:13] <TUX__> hey
[09:13] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: Presumably you will want it to be mounted automatically.  For that you can add a line to /etc/fstab
[09:13] <AndroidData> hi. using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. I installed vncserver and ran it on port 2500. I can connect locally using my LAN, but port 2500 is closed via the internet. I've forwarded the port through my router and I setup IPtables to allow specifically this port. what could be causing this?
[09:13] <TUX__> does anyone know of a macro recorder for ubuntu?
[09:13] <robdeman> ok
[09:13] <jnex26> HI can anyone help me please
[09:13] <robdeman> can I use an existing mountpoimt (say / ) ?
[09:13] <jnex26> for the 15th time
[09:13] <ompaul> TUX__, what do you want to record?
[09:14] <HP_Vue> Does ubuntu support D-link cards, becuase from the website, I couldn't see it
[09:14] <robdeman> will it automaticlaly extend / with 60 gigz?
[09:14] <pbureau> HP_Vue, sure depends on the card chipset
[09:14] <jason__> AndroidData: Go to https://www.grc.com and use the "ShieldsUP!" tool to probe your ports. that will help to show you what is going on. Sometimes Isp's will block ports like that.
[09:14] <TUX__> ompaul: my clicks, keyboard presses, the works. then play it back
[09:14] <vox754> HP_Vue_ sure let me give you this, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: No.  Not unless you are using LVM (which I know nothing about).
[09:14] <AndroidData> jason__: that's what I'm doing. if I run another server on port 2500, it's open. but when I run vncserver, it remains closed.
[09:14] <mnoir> sorry - that last was in wrong channel
[09:14] <ijk> I asked this a couple of hours ago, but may have expressed myself unclearly. It's about the bottom panel. Is it possible to extend it so that programs ly in say two rows instead of the one now?
[09:14] <aquilo-chan> net
[09:15] <robdeman> Ok so ligical volume management might create some kind of virtual disk rigt
[09:15] <HP_Vue> vox754: Error loading page
[09:15] <robdeman> I could ad dmore space to it
[09:15] <TUX__> ompaul: i've tried xmacro and it's been working until now. have you heard of it?
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me with sound please?
[09:15] <robdeman> by adding more hardware
[09:15] <HP_Vue> pbureau: D-link wua1340
[09:15] <jason__> AndroidData: You are using vncserver, or the gnome default "vino" ie. remote desktop thing?
[09:16] <ompaul> xmacro - Record / Play keystrokes and mouse movements in X displays
[09:16] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  USB ?
[09:16] <HP_Vue> yea
[09:16] <ompaul> TUX__, looking for a GNOME one
[09:16] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  good luck :)
[09:16] <TUX__> ompaul: i believe so
[09:16] <HP_Vue> ???
[09:16] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: Apparently, LVM can make multiple disks look like one big disk (or volume).
[09:16] <AndroidData> AndroidData: apt-get install vncserver followed by vncserver :2500 with port 2500 forwarded through the router and unblocked via iptables.
[09:16] <vox754> HP_Vue: just search the web for "ndiswrapper list", there is currently a discussion on this on #ndiswrapper
[09:16] <HP_Vue> pbureau: ???
[09:16] <ompaul> TUX__, somewhere in: gnome-common - common scripts and macros to develop with GNOME or GNOME 2.0
[09:16] <pruBase> robdeman: i guess you can.. if i understand correctly.. you want to mount a new partition of size 60G onto the mount point /..
[09:17] <jason__> AndroidData: If you are using the vncserver there may be something in /etc/vnc.conf that is binding the server to local connections only?
[09:17] <ompaul> TUX__, nothing more specific
[09:17] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357940 please help me
[09:17] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+wua1340&btnG=Google+Search
[09:17] <HP_Vue> thanks vox754 and pbureau
[09:17] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound please?
[09:17] <TUX__> ompaul: gnome-common?
[09:17] <jnex26> please can i get some help
[09:18] <ompaul> TUX__, it is the only package that seems to hold an indication macros and GNOME
[09:18] <mwe> jnex26: I get horrible performance over smb as well. I haven't found a solution yet
[09:18] <jnex26> it's not just smb it's everything
[09:18] <TUX__> ompaul: so "sudo apt-get install gnome-common" would work?
[09:18] <pbureau> jnex26, no idea
[09:19] <ompaul> TUX__, you should already have it
[09:19] <Yodude> hey why are the repositoris so slow to download from!!!
[09:19] <TUX__> ompaul: so how do i acsess this?
[09:19] <ompaul> TUX__, actually you wont -- my mistake
[09:19] <AndroidData> odd. it seems my vncserver is binding to 5900 + the port number I specify
[09:19] <ompaul> so install it
[09:19] <Yodude> on my 7KB connection i'm always havnig errors and timeouts and only get to 1KB per second
[09:20] <pbureau> Yodude, you havea 7KB connection.. what you using 300bps modem ?
[09:20] <ompaul> TUX__, I only found it using apt so no further info on it at this time
[09:20] <markedwards> hi all, should update-grub be running automatically after doing an apt-get update that updates the kernel?
[09:20] <BeBraw> after a recent update of ubuntu my fglrx driver stopped working. here's a crash log (http://pastebin.ca/349402). any ideas how to fix it? i have installed restricted modules but for some reason it cannot find the driver
[09:20] <jason__> you mean 5900 + the display number?
[09:20] <TUX__> ompaul: okay, thanks
[09:21] <jnex26> pbureau, where can i go for help with this
[09:21] <AndroidData> jason__: yes. the vncserver I used to use didn't do this
[09:21] <Yodude> no actuALLY it's LAN but it's a long story
[09:21] <jnex26> it seems no-one here knows
[09:21] <Yodude> but nevertheless: it's a pain to download from the repositories!
[09:21] <wiiiwhazilla> hi
[09:21] <Yodude> why ?!
[09:21] <robdeman> pruBase: yes
[09:21] <Sanne> mark487: I think it should, to update the menu.lst
[09:21] <jnex26> and i'm getting seriously miffed by the fact i have a faster u/l than download
[09:21] <Yodude> i thought Firefox should give me at least 5KB
[09:21] <wiiiwhazilla> i wanted to ask anybody know why after a system update just yet my Xserver crashes ?
[09:22] <PriceChild> Hey wiiiwhazilla
[09:22] <pbureau> jnex26, I would think the drivers are at fault... or something is bogged down on your router/modem, you may want to reinstall driver and reboot modem then router and then pc box to see if it solves it (perhaps find a newer driver)
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> hey PriceChild
[09:22] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, Have you installed 3rd party nvidia drivers?
[09:22] <ahave> is networking with win2000 any diffrent than winXP?
[09:22] <ahave> from a linux box
[09:22] <markedwards> Sanne: that's what I expected, but it doesn't.
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> or know any methods to debug Xserver display ?
[09:22] <jnex26> where can i find linux drivers for the 875p chipset
[09:22] <_Jaak_> Is there a lot "not just going to work" when i install the new kernel?
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> PriceChild:  i think yes for beryl
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> dunno sure
[09:22] <ahave> cause i cant seem to see my win2000 box when connected to my MS network
[09:22] <AndroidData> ok, this is weird.
[09:22] <alexd> hi, my wifi card doesn't show up anymore, an installer froze, and i had to shut off my machine.  when i booted back up, it wasn't there anymore
[09:23] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, How did you install these drivers?
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> apt-get
[09:23] <pruBase> robdeman: ok.. so, you want to mount a single partition of size 60 G onto /
[09:23] <Alarm> should my computername and localhost use the same ip ? for example alarm@rockpc , and localhost <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:23] <pbureau> jnex26, search google man
[09:23] <jason__> jnex26: there could be hundreds of things causing that. Once I had a nic that was bad, but it still seemed to work. But whenever it was plugged into a network, it would cause most of the other nodes to be disconnected.
[09:23] <mwe> !ipv6 | Yodude, maybe try disabling ipv6. dunno if it helps.
[09:23] <ubotu> Yodude, maybe try disabling ipv6. dunno if it helps.: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:23] <Sanne> markedwards: you can run it manually.
[09:23] <chris^> alexd: did you upgrade to the 2.6.17-11 kernel?
[09:23] <markedwards> Sanne: right, but I want it to be automatic
[09:23] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: He wants to *add* it to an existing /.  Is that possible, with LVM?
[09:23] <AndroidData> vncserver is running on 5900 + the display number
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> it was long ago i installed those
[09:23] <EnsignRedshirt> *without
[09:23] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, you added 3rd party repositories?
[09:23] <AndroidData> grc.com's shieldsup says the port is OPEN! but when I try to connect it says connection failed
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> yes
[09:23] <alexd> chris^ no, i didn't, should i?
[09:23] <echosyp> someone help me wiht my broadcom wireless card
[09:24] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, well then you'll have to wait for them to update the packages
[09:24] <Sanne> mark487: you can look in the postinstall file what gets done after install, I'll tell you where to find it in a sec
[09:24] <wiiiwhazilla> no way to fix it ?
[09:24] <markedwards> does everyone else have to run update-grub after a kernel update to get the new kernel to boot?
[09:24] <chris^> alexd: NO! This brakes my wlan card... maybe you have the same issue, but it isn't so..
[09:24] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: No, I didn't.
[09:24] <mwe> Alarm: if you use a static local IP you can assign it to the hostname
[09:24] <wiiiwhazilla> dont know any guide for me ?
[09:24] <_Jaak_> Please tell me now, before my whole comp will fail.... is there more then just the nvidia driver going to fail upon kernel update?
[09:24] <markedwards> EnsignRedshirt: how did you update?
[09:24] <alexd> chris^, i am running 6.10
[09:24] <Sanne> markedwards: : you can look in the postinstall file what gets done after install, I'll tell you where to find it in a sec
[09:24] <pruBase> robdeman: create a new partition and mount the ufs using mount command onth a temp mount point.. copy the existing data onto the new partition and then change the fstab to point to the new partition and reboot..
[09:24] <vox754> _Jaak_: YES! Do not update
[09:24] <Alarm> mwe,  in other words  ? sorry
[09:24] <echosyp> anyone know why my broadcom card would not be able to find any wireless?
[09:25] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: Just a regular update, but I think I lucked out and didn't have any problems.
[09:25] <_Jaak_> vox754, Yes!? Why bring us an update then1?
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> vox754:  when will update prsumably be fixed ?
[09:25] <echosyp> i have the firmware in the appropriat place, and bcm43xx is loaded
[09:25] <Sanne> markedwards: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info for a file called <packagename>.postinst
[09:25] <pbureau> echosyp, what card ?
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> i updated :$
[09:25] <echosyp> 4306
[09:25] <mwe> Alarm: if you use DHCP to get an IP both should be <IP_ADDRESS> if not it doesn't have to be
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> can i rollback ?
[09:25] <_Jaak_> I am so confused on this update......
[09:25] <vox754> wiiiwhazilla: nobody knows. Yes you can go back if you have the previous kernel.
[09:25] <pbureau> echosyp,  I have a howto to get it working I have the same one... /msg pbureau  your email Ill send you a file and howto doc
[09:25] <jason__> markedwards: Anything that was built agenst your kernel, like the nvidia drivers. or vmware. You would know if something is, because while installing it, it asked you where to find your headers
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> src ?
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: Your suggestion will *move* / to the new disk, correct?
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> in cant apt-get previous kernel then ?
[09:26] <_Jaak_> "a clear focus on the user and usability (it should "Just Work", TM) "
[09:26] <jason__> sorry wrong person
[09:26] <_Jaak_> lol
[09:26] <vox754> _Jaak_: sometimes they miss the spot... Errors happen.
[09:26] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: yup..
[09:26] <markedwards> EnsignRedshirt: did you use apt-get, or did you update from the gui?
[09:26] <faLUCE> Hi. do you know a program which generates animated coloured matrix on linux? thnks
[09:26] <echosyp> pbureau, i know how to do it, i have the same card in another laptop that works
[09:26] <_Jaak_> vox754, indeed
[09:26] <Alarm> i do use an ip. but somehow a ping to localhost was showing me the ip add. <IP_ADDRESS> and to rockpc (computer name) , the ip <IP_ADDRESS> , i changed it on the host both to show on <IP_ADDRESS> i dont know how well i did actually..
[09:26] <mwe> Alarm: so you don't have to worry about it
[09:26] <jason__> Jaak_: Anything that was built agenst your kernel, like the nvidia drivers. or vmware. You would know if something is, because while installing it, it asked you where to find your headers
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: I used Synaptic (but that shouldn't matter).
[09:26] <pbureau> echosyp,  okie dokie. then why isnt it working ?
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> fuck man ... now my desktop bloddy broken :$
[09:27] <PriceChild> !ohmy | wiiiwhazilla
[09:27] <ubotu> wiiiwhazilla: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:27] <echosyp> pbureau, it just isn't finding any wifi, and im not getting ANY errors
[09:27] <mwe> Alarm: don't do that ;)
[09:27] <trunks>
[09:27] <_Jaak_> vox754, ubu is great, i was just shocked to not see my comp boot after upate, ill keep to the old kernel, but untill when?
[09:27] <Alarm> hehe i allready did, what could happen ? :)
[09:27] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx PriceChild
[09:27] <Mr680x0> how do I adjust the graphics settings after booting up in recovery mode?
[09:27] <wiiiwhazilla> o_0
[09:27] <Alarm> i mean rockpc and localhost are the same thing, arent they ?
[09:27] <PriceChild> !xconfig | wiiiwhazilla
[09:27] <ubotu> wiiiwhazilla: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:27] <pbureau> echosyp, type iwlist <wificard> -scanning  do it see anything (ie my card is eth1 so - iwlist eth1 scanning
[09:27] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: it is possible using lvm.. but you would need a volume manager to do it running on top of the OS
[09:27] <mwe> Alarm: not much I guess.
[09:28] <mwe> Alarm: I don't think it will actually hurt
[09:28] <vox754> _Jaak_: until necessary. Always check the forums.
[09:28] <mwe> Alarm: what's the point, though ?
[09:28] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx PriceChild but how i backup my previous config ?
[09:28] <wiiiwhazilla> since it was a TwinView
[09:28] <TTT_Travis> I just filled up my 320GB drive so I added a 120GB drive I had laying around, is there a way I can make my /data look like one drive without doing a raid?
[09:28] <AngryElf> I've got a bcm43xx, iwconfig shows the correct ESSID, but Invalid for Access point, and It refuses to accept the bit rate (11M) that I give it...any ideas?
[09:28] <Alarm> just wanted to configure my system a bit and my eye went on it and i was curious
[09:28] <TTT_Travis> I right now /data1 is the old drive and /data2 is the new drive
[09:29] <ompaul> !nickspam | tojam_
[09:29] <jason__> AndroidData: Ok so the port is open, when you connect locally it works, but when you connect from a machine outside, it says connection refused?
[09:29] <ubotu> tojam_: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[09:29] <amonbish> sup?
[09:29] <Pntkl> sup?
[09:29] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: That's what I thought. Well, looks like robdeman has left the room.
[09:29] <echosyp> pbureau, it doesn't find anything, but there are at least 10 available
[09:29] <TTT_Travis> but having /data1 and /data2 is a pain
[09:29] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: i havent had success of creating an lvm in ubuntu..
[09:29] <pbureau> AngryElf,  bcm43xx ?>? what chipset ?
[09:29] <mwe> Alarm: I see ;) any 127.*.*.* IP should work I think
[09:29] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[09:29] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx
[09:29] <Alarm> okie, thank you a lot
[09:29] <pbureau> echosyp, type lshw -class network does it say DISABLED ?
[09:29] <markedwards> Sanne: I am looking at linux-image-2.6.17-11-server.postinst and I don't see anything pertaining to grub at all
[09:30] <Mr680x0> thanks to whoever it was who helped my reconfigure the xserver
[09:30] <pbureau> AngryElf, what chipset of broadcomm card you got ?
[09:30] <Mr680x0> *me
[09:30] <amonbish> not sure
[09:30] <Pntkl> ?
[09:30] <markedwards> Sanne: I used to use lilo, I wonder if there is some setting on my system that makes it think I am using lilo instead of grub
[09:30] <vox754> AngryElf: why are you limiting? You can try ndiswrapper and blacklisting the bcm43xx driver.
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: I've never tried (and so evert time I boot, I wonder why Ubuntu reports something about LVM... )
[09:30] <kivio> hi
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> *every
[09:30] <sbaush> what's the font for the "live" word in ubuntu-live site?
[09:30] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: do you know of a channel that is devoted to network security..
[09:30] <kivio> the update manager wants to install 15 packages, but i can only see 11 in the list
[09:30] <kivio> whats going on?
[09:30] <pbureau> vox754, that methos doesnt work, there is an easier to get it running with fwcutter
[09:30] <Sanne> markedwards: yeah, I also looked into mine and didn't find anything. Still, I didn't have to update-grub after installing another kernel. So I dunno, sorry...
[09:30] <kivio> some sort of "hidden" update?
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: No
[09:30] <AngryElf> pbureau, bcm4309 according to lspci
[09:31] <Clubbed> can someone help? I did sudo rm -f /bin/bash && sudo ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash and now terminal won't open, how can i revert this?
[09:31] <echosyp> pbureau, it doesn't say disabled anywhere
[09:31] <vox754> pbureau: thanks for the info. I don't have that card so it's up to you to give details.
[09:31] <sbaush> http://www.ubuntulive.com/
[09:31] <pbureau> AngryElf, and your using the ubuntu bcm43xx? then it wont work I can send you a package and howto if you sent me your email
[09:31] <alexd> hi, i have a wireless problem.  I was installing some stuff with add/remove, and the installer froze.  I had to turn off my machine to un-freeze it, and when i turned it back on my wireless card(ath0) didn't show up.  Can someone help?
[09:31] <kivio> update manager says the total size of the updates is 35mb, but counting those 11 packages i can see, i get about 3mb
[09:31] <mwe> Clubbed: you should have done ln -fns /bin/bash /bin/sh instead. boot a live cd and fix it
[09:31] <AngryElf> a "package"
[09:31] <AngryElf> no thanx
[09:31] <pbureau> vox754, I works 5 days and 6 people tested the way I setup the card.. works everytime I need to publish it one of these days
[09:31] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks.  there must be something not set on my system that tells it to update grub, I wonder where that is...
[09:32] <echosyp> AngryElf, what is your issue?
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe is there a way i could revert this just using gnome?
[09:32] <pbureau> AngryElf,  its a fwcutter tarball you can download it from the web if you prefer
[09:32] <jason__> AndroidData: At this point I would suspect your router may be at fault. If the port appears to be open to the outside world, AND the vnc connection is working (because you can connect locally) Then perhaps the router itself is doing something it shouldnt, or not doing something it should.
[09:32] <mwe> Clubbed: yeah
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe, how?
[09:32] <mwe> Clubbed: If you can get into gnome, can you?
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe i am in gnome right now
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: You removed the bash command.
[09:32] <Sanne> markedwards: I'm wondering now how on earth my kernels get added to menu.lst ;)
[09:33] <vox754> pbureau: you should have been present the other time a poor guy was having that problem.
[09:33] <mwe> EnigmaCurry: ok
[09:33] <pipegeek> So, I have kind of a strange question
[09:33] <markedwards> Sanne: do you see update-grub run when you update?
[09:33] <pbureau> vox754, lol I try to help when I am online ...
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: reinstall bash
[09:33] <pbureau> vox754, like I said I need to get it on ubuntu howto for wif
[09:33] <Clubbed> mwe, how? :S
[09:33] <Sanne> markedwards: I can't remember...
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: and NEVER remove /bin/bash again ;)
[09:33] <pbureau> vox it seems to work for 4036, 4039, 4311 and 4318 so far
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: from synaptic
[09:34] <vox754> pbureau: I drove that guy mad with my "ndiswrapper" talk, poor guy
[09:34] <jason__> lol wow sorry for laughing but thats something I would never expect to see.
[09:34] <pbureau> vox754, well ndiswrapper && bcm cards seem to really not work (timeouts and other issues)
[09:34] <oggie> hi I need help
[09:34] <trunks> If anyone would happen to know where i can get some audio drivers for my gigabyte motherboard i would be really happy to know :P
[09:35] <wiiiwhazilla> PriceChild:  after dpkg-reconfigure it says no screens found \n XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on Xserver :0:0 \n after 0 requests with 0 events remaining
[09:35] <oggie> how can i install flash plugin on Mozilla , m running ubuntu 5.10
[09:35] <wiiiwhazilla> when i do startx
[09:35] <mwe> !flash | oggie
[09:35] <ubotu> oggie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:35] <jason__> trunks: what is the model# of the mb?
[09:35] <Clubbed> mwe, i am trying to reinstall it, but synpatic is sitting in "preparing packages" for a minute now
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: oh
[09:36] <wiiiwhazilla> how do i apt-get nvidia that works with update ?
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> hi guys, really sorry but i just installed dapper drake and am wondering how to change the screen resolution
[09:36] <oggie> let me see that..
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: perhaps it needs bash for something ;(
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> there's only one option in the screen resolution drop down menu
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: hmm
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> and it's kind of an unacceptable one
[09:36] <pipegeek> I'm running kubuntu edgy.  About a month ago, I must have done something to have enabled this screen saver, which runs after 5 minutes of inactivity.  I have no idea how I did it, and kscreensaver is certainly disabled from the kde control panel, but still, after five minutes, I get a white X11 logo on a black background.
[09:36] <corevette> what is everyone's favorite game on linux?
[09:36] <Mandrill> !chmod|mandrill
[09:36] <pipegeek> I'd just wait until it started and check 'top', but, obviously, it uses almost no CPU
[09:36] <wiiiwhazilla> enemy-territory
[09:36] <pbureau> pipegeek, check your power settings
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> corevette: same gnome
[09:37] <pipegeek> pbureau: disabled power management as root
[09:37] <mwe> Clubbed: edgy?
[09:37] <Clubbed> mwe, yes
[09:37] <pipegeek> I actually created a new account and migrated all my data over, abandoning all my old dotfiles, but the problem persisted
[09:37] <echosyp> pbureau, dmesg | grep eth1 tells me ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[09:37] <wiiiwhazilla> :$
[09:38] <pollywog_> I can't get into my system after an upgrade.  It boots and leaves me at an initramfs prompt complaining it can't find a tty
[09:38] <pipegeek> it is incredibly annoying, because it happens while playing movies, so I have to sit here and jiggle the mouse every four minutes
[09:38] <mwe> Clubbed: I could upload the bash binary to my server for you. then you could download it and place it in /bin and change owner and perms to the correct values
[09:38] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Read /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what res's are listed in your "Screen" section
[09:38] <pbureau> echo well you using ndiswrapper drivers right ?
[09:38] <Sanne> markedwards: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto I find: "Whenever you install kernel updates from the repositories, update-grub is run to update the grub settings." So there *shrug*
[09:38] <pollywog_> this is the second time this has happened
[09:38] <oggie> can u play flash on websites?
[09:38] <pollywog_> I did a reinstall and I now have the same problem
[09:38] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[09:38] <wiiiwhazilla> what nvidia driver should i install after update ?
[09:38] <Clubbed> mwe, im sort of new to linux, im not sure how to change perms and owner settings yet, just right click it? i don't want to cause too much annoyance
[09:39] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_ : read? like open that up in terminal?
[09:39] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> major n00b, sorrryyy
[09:39] <mwe> Clubbed: open nautilus and browse to the file
[09:39] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: Do you mean sound that you recorded on your computer with your mic?
[09:39] <kivio> can someone plz help me? -> http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=updateerrorpk1.png
[09:39] <pbureau> echosyp,  well you using ndiswrapper drivers right ? I encountered that , disabled, unclaimed all statuses with the ndiswrapper drivers...  sorry mate
[09:39] <kivio> i dont understand this :(
[09:39] <markedwards> Sanne: I'm thinking its in /etc/kernel-img.conf
[09:39] <pipegeek> Is there any way I could at least all clients connected to the x server?
[09:39] <pipegeek> err
[09:39] <veracon_> I somehow forgot; how do I see my local IP?
[09:39] <Sanne> markedwards: ah, looking
[09:39] <pipegeek> at least list
[09:39] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: yes, with the internal mic on the laptop or an external mic.
[09:40] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the terminal, that will show the textfile in gedit for you
[09:40] <Sanne> markedwards: yep. definitely looks like it.
[09:40] <pollywog_> I can't get into my system after an upgrade.  It boots and leaves me at an initramfs prompt complaining it can't find a tty
[09:40] <markedwards> Sanne: I wonder what installs/modifies that file
[09:40] <echosyp> pbureau, iv never had ndiswrapper installed on this machine, but i did use fwcutter to extract the firmware
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> pollywog_:  i dont got xserver
[09:40] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: You could try enabling the "Mic Boost" option in AlsaMixer.
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> prolly sorta the same
[09:40] <Sanne> markedwards: we can look which package provides the file at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <pollywog_> xserver?
[09:40] <pbureau> echo cant I send you my howto text file you can check if you missed a step ?
[09:40] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: let me give it a shot
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> alltho u dont got tty ;)
[09:40] <pollywog_> no that's not it
[09:40] <Clubbed> mwe, well im willing to try it =/ took me a lot of effort to get ubuntu the way i like it, itll kill me to have to do it all over again
[09:40] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Then scroll down to the part that says,  Section "Screen"
[09:40] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> 1280x800
[09:41] <tsmithe> hi
[09:41] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Thats the only one?
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> no tty == no keyboard
[09:41] <pbureau> echosyp,  can' I send you my howto text file you can check if you missed a step ?
[09:41] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> yep
[09:41] <pollywog_> it is not leaving me at a console, it is not booting all the way
[09:41] <mwe> Clubbed: http://dl7.megauploads.org/download.php?id=5B2A54A8
[09:41] <Aar0n444> Hi all
[09:41] <Sanne> markedwards: bummer, doesn't find anything.
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> i guess im luckier than u pollywog_
[09:41] <mwe> Clubbed: uploaded it to megauploads instead
[09:41] <tsmithe> right. why do you think my multimedia keys would be recognised in XFCE and not in GNOME? /me detests gnome-settings-daemon. the keycodes aren't even recognised!
[09:41] <williammanda> question....will ubuntu 64 bit work ok with a core 2 duo system?
[09:41] <pollywog_> wiiiwhazilla: yeah
[09:41] <echosyp> pbureau, sorry mate, idk you well enough to give you my e-mail
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> but still screwed :$
[09:41] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Thats why you only have one choice then. you may want to read a tutorial about whatever videocard you have. Is it an Nvidia or ATI ?
[09:42] <pollywog_> I mean it was working until some package I installed messed it up
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> mostlikely
[09:42] <pollywog_> I think I will have to install Freespire or something
[09:42] <pbureau> echo Ill paste it on paste bin hang on.... (geez it just text file..... get a dummy hotmail account for crying out loud !!)
[09:42] <mwe> Clubbed: got it?
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> Freespire ?
[09:42] <pollywog_> yes
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> whats that ?
[09:42] <Clubbed> mwe, dang, actually how would i put it in /bin if im logged in as a regular user? i normally sudo nautilus to do that stuff, but... no terminal
[09:42] <alexd> my wireless card isn't showing up in network settings!!! Help!!!
[09:42] <pollywog_> I don't want to install Debian etch again it is too much hasssle
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> hehe
[09:43] <mwe> Clubbed: run command, gksudo nautilus
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> anyhow im expecting a patch
[09:43] <pollywog_> Freespire is the free version of Linspire
[09:43] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_: I think it
[09:43] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> s intel
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> to fix tty and nvidia with new kernel
[09:43] <tsmithe> anyone?
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> who can point me ?
[09:43] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: still tinny sound, but louder :)
[09:43] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:43] <Clubbed> mwe, it won't work, it just seems to reload my desktop
[09:43] <mwe> Clubbed: never sudo nautilus.
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> and the max resolution should be like 1650 *1080
[09:44] <mwe> !gksudo | Clubbed
[09:44] <ubotu> Clubbed: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[09:44] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: what does it say if you type, lspci | grep VGA
[09:44] <mwe> Clubbed: oh
[09:44] <pollywog_> is there a way to fix a broken system without a complete restall?
[09:44] <pollywog_> reinstall
[09:44] <jrib> pollywog_: it depends on how it is broken of course
[09:44] <noname> I have downloaded icons from xfce-look.org. where am I going to put them to get them to work? is it in /usr/share/icons/ ? im using xfce
[09:44] <pollywog_> yeah true
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> Intel Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> ?
[09:44] <pollywog_> I have never seen this before so I am lost
[09:44] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[09:44] <wiiiwhazilla> me neither
[09:44] <jason__> ok lemme see if i can find a url for you
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> i can look for it
[09:45] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: Ah, too bad.  You could poke around the other options in AlsaMixer, but I don't know enough to give any advice. Good luck.
[09:45] <crov> Hi, how i can get this fixed : "Not Optimum Mod; Recommended More 1440x900 60Hz" With Ati Radeon X850 Pro
[09:45] <williammanda> question....will ubuntu 64 bit work ok with a core 2 duo system?
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> I have a choppy mouse because I removed noapic from kernel options
[09:45] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: thanks!
[09:45] <pollywog_> and I have used Linux for some 8 yrs
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> the problem is that with noapic I don't have wireless
[09:45] <jrib> pollywog_: have you tried an older kernel?
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> what can I do?
[09:45] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:45] <pollywog_> I tried to boot to an older kernel, same thing
[09:45] <mwe> Clubbed: you could copy the file from a live CD. removing bash is a very bad thing (TM)
[09:45] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver (wifi card) so i can connect to the internet, without a reboot after the triver is installed via ndiswrapper?
[09:45] <Clubbed> mwe, could i use cp Desktop/bash /bin?
[09:45] <pollywog_> the machine will boot to XP
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> without noapic usb does not work :(
[09:46] <mwe> Clubbed: no I think not when bash is missing
[09:46] <cefx_> This is my X.org conf file, I have a VIA S3 IGP for video, and a Sun Microsystems 24.1 widescreen LCD, I am only able to get 1024x768 which does not fit the monitor size --- http://rafb.net/p/tglkiN80.html
[09:46] <vox754> wiiiwhazilla: right now, only solution seems to use older kernel, use "mesa" drivers, reinstall linux-restricted-modules, or something like that
[09:46] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:46] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: ok well if you want it, this may be helpfull. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.29
[09:46] <tsmithe> anyone? : why do you think my multimedia keys would be recognised in XFCE and not in GNOME? /me detests gnome-settings-daemon. the keycodes aren't even recognised!
[09:46] <mwe> Clubbed: my best advice is fix it from a live CD
[09:46] <m00re> hi
[09:46] <Clubbed> ok, i'll try to do it from the livecd. would i just mount my hard drive, copy and paste bash into /bin and it should be back to normal?
[09:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: Do you happen to have a terminal running?
[09:47] <pbureau> echosyp, got my msg ?
[09:47] <Clubbed> ensignredshirt, i don't think so
[09:47] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:47] <vox754> williammanda: yes but install 32-bit version, it is better.
[09:47] <mwe> Clubbed: then chown root.root and chmod 755 it
[09:47] <mwe> EnigmaCurry: not without bash ;)
[09:47] <pipegeek> *damn* it.  Just installed kpowersave, explicitly disabled the screensaver, then waited 5 minutes.    I don't think it's coming from KDE; there's only ever one screen saver, and it's the X11 logo
[09:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: Copying from a LiveCD *should* work, as long as it is the same version of Ubuntu as your system.
[09:47] <Mandrill> I can't figure the command out for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:47] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:48] <jrib> ashton: no, you jsut receieve the cd's you ordered
[09:48] <ashton> cool thanks man
[09:48] <pipegeek> anyone?
[09:48] <Clubbed> ensignredshirt, the kernel is different, but edgy, still
[09:48] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver (wifi card) so i can connect to the internet, without a reboot after the triver is installed via ndiswrapper?
[09:48] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: It will work anyway. he should reinstall bash afterwards, though ;)
[09:48] <oggie> anyone ..pls help
[09:48] <Sanne> markedwards: found this: http://www.wlug.org.nz/kernel-img.conf(5)
[09:48] <Clubbed> mwe, could you write out the whole command, please? i'm not sure what to chmod 755. /bin/bash?
[09:48] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: do you have the extra repositories enabled? if not read.. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:49] <jrib> please stop begging for help, just ask your question.  If someone knows, they will try to help you
[09:49] <mwe> Clubbed: well no. on the live CD the file system is mounted elsewhere
[09:49] <oggie> okay sorry
[09:49] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:49] <mwe> Clubbed: /bin/bash will be bash on the live CD
[09:49] <jrib> oggie: is that gnash?
[09:49] <rrenaud> i've got a usb camera
[09:49] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_: not as far as i know
[09:50] <rrenaud> i plug it in, get a nice gui for importing the pics off the camera
[09:50] <rrenaud> but the import doesn't work
[09:50] <rrenaud> i can't find out where the camera is being mounted though
[09:50] <DigitalNinja> I just did an update of Ubuntu Dapper server (not workstation). It said that "linux-server" was installing kernel version <IP_ADDRESS>. However, I can't find this new kernel. Can someone tell me what's going on here?
[09:50] <nighter> hi ubuntu 6.10 dosent work with? dualcore processor with a sata raid controller?
[09:50] <pollywog_> I do not see any way to fix this initramfs problem other than a reinstall
[09:50] <mwe> Clubbed: just got an idea
[09:50] <Mandrill> I'd love to be able to do it through th GUI but the gui doesn't have root access :(
[09:50] <s0nix> Hi, im searching for someone who use KDevelop and has already cross-compiling a w32 project under unix
[09:50] <rrenaud> i want to try a simple cp /wherever/cam/mounted/* ~/
[09:50] <alexd> how do you install a wireless card?
[09:50] <pal32i> ndiswrapper
[09:50] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Ok well follow that howto, if you dont have the extra repo's enabled, you will need them later anyway, not just for this.
[09:51] <jrib> oggie: is there a reason you don't want to install the flash provided by adobe?
[09:51] <mwe> Clubbed: you said you removed /bin/bash then ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash?
[09:51] <pal32i> i cant configure my wireless card to work
[09:51] <crov> Hi, how i can get this fixed : "Not Optimum Mod; Recommended More 1440x900 60Hz" With Ati Radeon X850 Pro
[09:51] <wiiiwhazilla> how can i debug my xserver crashing .. nvidia+new kernel :$
[09:51] <nighter> the ubuntu installation dosent work on my new computer, it boots up fine. But when you press the installation button it hangs.
[09:51] <jason__> oggie: flash 9 for linux is available now
[09:51] <nighter> someway to fix that?
[09:51] <Alarm> i have just isntalled swat, but when login in , in localhost:901 , i just see the samba logo and 4 icons: home, status,view password (in the home section i see just the documentation) , why is that ?
[09:51] <pbureau> alexd, depends on the chipset of the wifi card, type in a terminal window - lspci  - find the line for your wifi card and tell us what chipset it is
[09:51] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks, that helps.  this is definitely the problem.  can you send me your kernel-img.conf?
[09:51] <vox754> pal32i: hardware please...
[09:51] <Clubbed> mwe, yes
[09:52] <yommb> alarm : log in as root
[09:52] <oggie> jrib : GPLFlash
[09:52] <pal32i> broadcom bcm4813
[09:52] <pal32i> airforce one
[09:52] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:52] <Alarm> well i log in as root (and the sudo password i always use), but doesnt log in
[09:52] <yommb> alarm : mind you , if you log in over net this way its dangerous ...
[09:52] <echosyp> is there Flash for x64
[09:52] <Sanne> markedwards: I'll pastebin it, sec
[09:52] <yommb> if youre not usung https
[09:52] <mwe> Clubbed: hmm
[09:52] <pbureau> grins at vox754
[09:52] <oggie> jason, i did download the rpm file from Adobe site..i cant install the plugin
[09:52] <yommb> *using
[09:52] <mwe> Clubbed: I think you _need_ to boot a live CD to fix it
[09:53] <jason__> oggie: Download the tgz instead
[09:53] <echosyp> is there Flash for x64
[09:53] <pal32i> i have installed ndiswrapper
[09:53] <alexd> pbureau, it's  Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC
[09:53] <vox754> pbureau: all yours!
[09:53] <jrib> oggie: adobe's flash can be installed through your package manager
[09:53] <pal32i> network manager also
[09:53] <aanderse> does anyone know why dgen would cause a segmentation fault everytime i try to use it right away? (im using 64bit linux)
[09:53] <Sanne> markedwards: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5118/
[09:53] <oggie> i ran the TGZ it's errorring out
[09:53] <yommb> alarm : i know with swat if oi dont login as root you have  ( almost ) no config options ...
[09:53] <jrib> !flash | oggie
[09:53] <echosyp> alexd, do you have madwifi installed
[09:53] <ubotu> oggie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:53] <pbureau> vox754, lolol
[09:53] <jason__> oggie: Download the tgz, extract it, and run ./installflashplayer
[09:53] <mwe> Clubbed: somewhat tricky if your new to linux but way easier than reinstalling
[09:53] <oggie> !flash
[09:53] <Clubbed> mwe, i dont really even know where to go from there, so pardon my long problem. would i boot into live cd, and do sudo umount dev/sda1 (that's my hd) and then it should mount it, right?
[09:53] <yommb> !java
[09:53] <zero88> when building drivers, what files if the ieee80211 system does it use or look for?????
[09:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:53] <Alarm> i see...
[09:53] <pollywog_> cant access tty ; job control turned off is what it says and it leaves me at a initramfs shell
[09:53] <alexd> no, i can't ever get madwifi to install, i've tried twice
[09:54] <robdeman> hi folks.. when I format with Writing using mkfs.ext3 -L /home2 /dev/hdb1 ... then it says writing inode tables and it crashed when it does 103/496
[09:54] <yommb> !multiverse
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:54] <kuw88> i have error the error is broken count > 0 what can  i do
[09:54] <kuw88> ?
[09:54] <robdeman> so it writes inodes 1..2 3. ...100.. 101..102 and then at 103 it crashes
[09:54] <alexd> echosyp, no, i can't ever get madwifi to install, i've tried twice
[09:54] <mwe> Clubbed: umount unmounts stuff ;)
[09:54] <kuw88>  i have error the error is broken count > 0 what can  i do
[09:54] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks alot, looking into it
[09:54] <Yodude> hey is there ANY way in ubuntu to login into the root account?
[09:54] <Clubbed> mwe, oops, mount /dev/sda1 then?
[09:54] <jason__> oggie: What is the error?
[09:54] <Psy> hey. I just tried installing ubuntu - It crashed half way through (stupid laptop) and now on boot it says unable to load OS, even when booting off cd
[09:54] <Psy> any ideas?
[09:54] <Yodude> i just need it for 1 minute sudo isn't gonna work for this
[09:55] <echosyp> mount /dev/sda1 /MountPointHere
[09:55] <vox754> pal32i: according to this guy pbureau, Broadcoam don't work quite right with ndiswrapper as there is a native driver. But you need to extract the firmware. More detail with pbureau
[09:55] <Sanne> markedwards: you're welcome, good luck (I'm going away now for dinner)
[09:55] <kuw88>  error is broken count > 0
[09:55] <pal32i> vox754 >> can i talk to u in chat
[09:55] <mwe> Clubbed: type mount to see if it's already mounted. if it doesn't show up sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt. then copy /bin/bash to /mnt/bin/ then chown root.root /mnt/bin/bash && chmod 755 /mnt/bin/bash
[09:55] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:55] <pbureau> vox754, pal32i has a Atheros card....not a bcm card
[09:55] <jahid> can anyone tell me, how can i install kate in ubuntu?
[09:55] <pbureau> vox754, opps I am geting confused.
[09:56] <funkja> are there other drivers besides fglrx for ATI on ubuntu? I have an Raedon X1600
[09:56] <echosyp> apt-get install kate?
[09:56] <pollywog_> sudo apt-get install kate
[09:56] <oggie>    o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:
[09:56] <oggie>           + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[09:56] <oggie>           + Click Enter key and follow prompts
[09:56] <pbureau> pal32i,  I have a tested method if you care to try works on many bcm cards but not tested it on a 4813.
[09:56] <mwe> Clubbed: if it's mounted elsewhere substitude disregard the mount command and substitute /mnt for the mount point in chown and chmod
[09:56] <pbureau> alexd, the AR5005G is a pain to install, I was unsuccefull in getting mine to work sorry mate
[09:56] <Yodude> how can i enter the hidden root account!!!!!!!!!!??
[09:57] <mwe> Clubbed: I meant to say: if it's mounted elsewhere disregard the mount command and substitute /mnt for the mount point in chown and chmod
[09:57] <yommb> I can't get  sun-java5-jre to install from the multiverse repo in Feisty ...Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:57] <yommb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:57] <yommb> is only available from another source
[09:57] <yommb> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[09:57] <pipegeek> Does anyone in this channel know how to get a list of the currently connected X11 clients?
[09:57] <pal32i> i have light which turns on when wireless card is working but its turned off for some reason?
[09:57] <Yodude> plz help me i'm in serious trouble here!
[09:57] <echosyp> Yodude, "sudo -i"
[09:57] <mwe> !paste yommb
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste yommb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <mwe> !paste | yommb
[09:57] <ubotu> yommb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:57] <Clubbed> mwe, ok thanks a lot. i'll try that :)
[09:57] <alexd> pbureau, thanks anyway
[09:57] <cefx_> sigh
[09:57] <pipegeek> I would really appreciate the help.
[09:57] <mwe> Clubbed: can you remember it ? ;)
[09:57] <shatrat> pal32i, I got the broadcom 4318 on my brothers laptop going using the broadcom how-to posted on ubuntuforums.org
[09:57] <EnsignRedshirt> mwe: He's already gone...
[09:57] <jason__> Youdude, ubuntu uses sudo for everything by default, but if you need the root account itself, just run sudo passwd root to make a root password
[09:57] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: yeah
[09:57] <Mandrill> I've tried looking at various guides and the man pages for chmod but I can't make head nor tail of them, unix commands are a bit convoluted for and old dos hand like me
[09:58] <Yodude> echosyp: no i need to open a file in root
[09:58] <Nontitle> chroot?
[09:58] <pal32i> my wireless card's light is not turning ON for some reason
[09:58] <Hoosteen> ok..i've got a file on my desktop that i can't delete via gui because it needs root access...how do you delete a file in terminal so i can use sudo?
[09:58] <yommb> ubotu : don't flood please :p
[09:58] <Mumbles> has anyone got any experiance with gnump3d?
[09:58] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[09:58] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: I hope he got it right so he doesn't make things worse ;)
[09:59] <vox754> Yodude: you can't enter the root account, it is for experts!
[09:59] <jason__> Mumbles: I'v installed it a few times
[09:59] <EnsignRedshirt> Hoosteen: Open a terminal, and enter: sudo rm Desktop/filename
[09:59] <pbureau> lol vox754  system-admin-user account, change password, instant access to root account
[09:59] <Mumbles> one sec i just need to get the error again
[09:59] <Mumbles> im gettign a perl problem
[09:59] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[09:59] <Psy> hey. I just tried installing ubuntu - It crashed half way through (stupid laptop) and now on boot it says unable to load OS, even when booting off cd. Any ideas anyone?
[09:59] <mwe> vox754: sudo -i will enter the root account
[09:59] <Yodude> but i need this just for 1 file
[09:59] <Hoosteen> EsignRedshirt:thanks a ton...i was trying all kinds of commands...lol
[10:00] <echosyp> so
[10:00] <Nontitle> i know this doesn't have to do with ubuntu, but google isn't being my friend... does anyone know where i can find a tutorial or otherwise for using libsmbclient-dev?
[10:00] <Yodude> it's a driver installation and my connection is too slow to download it from the repoitory
[10:00] <echosyp> what file
[10:00] <mwe> pbureau: undermines the idea of using sudo, though ;)
[10:00] <Yodude> nvidia driver
[10:00] <echosyp> a .deb
[10:00] <pbureau> mwe, we had this conversation before I recall :)_
[10:00] <Yodude> it always tells me it needs root access!
[10:00] <mwe> pbureau: maybe so
[10:00] <echosyp> cause you aren't root
[10:00] <echosyp> use "sudo" before the command
[10:00] <cefx_> And no help...whatsoever.
[10:00] <cefx_> great.
[10:01] <Yodude> this ios esential if i don't have a GPU driver i can't use ubuntu!
[10:01] <Veenified> Hey pbureau
[10:01] <jexdawg> has anyone else had major problems trying to install ATI drivers with Envy?
[10:01] <pbureau> Veenified, hey bud
[10:01] <vox754> Yodude: you don't need a root account, for the tenth time, use "sudo"!
[10:01] <mwe> Yodude: type sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need it
[10:01] <echosyp> Yodude, wtf are you trying to do
[10:01] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[10:01] <Mumbles> jason__,  /usr/share/example-content/example-content is a recursive symbolic link at /usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Find.pm line 551.
[10:01] <Mumbles>
[10:01] <Nontitle> use sudo su -
[10:01] <nalioth> Nontitle: please don't do that
[10:01] <Yodude> please tell me how i just want to get in there, open the file install the thing n get out
[10:01] <echosyp> gd it
[10:01] <echosyp> i told you
[10:01] <Bu-Omar> hello.. is there a command to show which run-level I am on now ?
[10:01] <echosyp> sudo
[10:01] <echosyp> ^
[10:01] <mwe> Nontitle: sudo -i is the recommended way though sudo su - should work too ;)
[10:02] <Nontitle> ok
[10:02] <nalioth> Nontitle: sudo -i or sudo -s is much preferable over 'sudo su' (sudo su is redundant and can break things)
[10:02] <Yodude> but when i open the file and i lcik run in terminal i don't haver the opportunity to add "sudo"!!!!!!!!!
[10:02] <nalioth> mwe: ^^
[10:02] <jason__> Mumbles: When are you getting this message, just trying to apt-get install ?
[10:02] <echosyp> heh
[10:02] <Mumbles> yeh
[10:02] <oggie> i got no plugins
[10:02] <yommb> mandrill : it would be something like :  chmod 777 /dev/yourdrive  or chmod 644 /home/youruser/yourfolder   ...
[10:02] <Mumbles> and i get it when i bulid from soruce as well jason__
[10:02] <oggie> jason..
[10:02] <pollywog_> so nobody knows how I can boot my system ?  I have Edgy installed but it no longer boots all the way
[10:02] <mwe> nalioth: I wonder how sudo su - will break things
[10:02] <Yodude> plz it will just be a minute man i don't want to use it for good, just for that dam file
[10:02] <echosyp> Yodude, open a terminal first, go to the directory where the file is, then type "sudo" before the command
[10:02] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[10:02] <yommb> mandrill : where 777 would be all permissions for all users (rwx )
[10:03] <pollywog_> I thought edgy was stable
[10:03] <Yodude> it won't install!
[10:03] <echosyp> why
[10:03] <mwe> nalioth: not that I recommend using it
[10:03] <oggie> jason..i just click on the flash installer..and prompted me with the run in terminal..i clicked on it ..and there are no prompts
[10:03] <nalioth> yommb: Mandrill chmodding your WHOLE homedir is not recommended as there are things in there with differnt permissions that wont work if they are 644d
[10:03] <Mandrill> yommb: ty, so its the actual drive address and not the mount point
[10:03] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[10:03] <jason__> Mumbles: Hm Im not sure about that, I'd suggest removing, perging, and just flat out removing any mp3d files you can find, and then reinstalling clean
[10:03] <echosyp> alexd, hold up
[10:03] <iGama> whats the other ubuntu channel for talking about anything?
[10:03] <Mumbles> jason__,  yeh done that
[10:03] <nalioth> iGama: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <alexd> echosyp, k
[10:03] <iGama> thanks :)
[10:03] <iGama> nalioth, thanks
[10:03] <jason__> oggie: I will see your mesages better if you type jason__:
[10:03] <yommb> mandrill : check out what exactly the numbers mean , and how to correctly apply them .. this has to be done with caution !
[10:03] <Mandrill> yommb: don't worry its not my home dir. its a second drive that I've just formatted to ext3
[10:03] <I-kido> ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <jexdawg> how do i find the exact version of my gfx card in ubuntu?
[10:04] <echosyp> alexd, my DNS is down so i can't go to websites, but i'll see if i can help
[10:04] <alexd> echosyp, thanks
[10:04] <vox754> Yodude: somebody has already done the nvidia installation, don't despair. You can run what you want form the terminal, say "sudo ./install"
[10:04] <nette> hey, does anyone know of a program where you can use your keyboard as a piano?
[10:04] <I-kido> x_link wake UP!
[10:04] <Yodude>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:04] <Yodude>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[10:04] <Yodude>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[10:04] <Yodude>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[10:04] <kuw88> how can i make fix for the ubuntu?
[10:04] <pollywog_> how does one use a rescue disk to boot a system that will not boot?
[10:05] <oggie> jason..i just click on the flash installer..and prompted me with the run in terminal..i clicked on it ..and there are no prompts
[10:05] <jason__> oggie: dont just click on it, Open a terminal and cd to the folder where you extracted it, and then type ./installflashplayer
[10:05] <Yodude> oh sorry plz give me a link to the pastebin
[10:05] <mwe> Yodude: don't paste in here
[10:05] <yommb> Mandrill: if you do a google on libux permissions the first few pages that popup are very useful & clearly laid out !
[10:05] <yommb> *linux
[10:05] <mwe> !paste | Yodude
[10:05] <ubotu> Yodude: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:05] <echosyp> Yodude, you have to close X first
[10:05] <Mandrill> yommb: I've dabbled a little in website admin so I know roughly what the numbers mean its just that the chmod command does things a little differently on a command line when theres no nice gui to guide you through it.
[10:05] <oggie> jason__copy that
[10:05] <jason__> oggie: you may have to type sudo ./installflashplayer though
[10:05] <Yodude> how can i close X?
[10:05] <oggie> jason__: thank you
[10:05] <echosyp> are you using gnome?
[10:05] <Funtwo> hello i'm having a problem installing packages with Add/Remove in Edgy 6.10. I'm getting errors saying <package> cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). I'm running a machine with a i686 how do i go about changing this so i can install programs using Synaptic? Thank you
[10:05] <ooszy> anyone else got their network settings totally wiped out after the most recent kernel update? netstat -r is showing me no routing tables, no local ip through ifconfig on eth0. If i disable dhcp and set the ip manually it lets me get to my router but no internet. Any ideas?
[10:06] <echosyp> alexd, did you get my pm?
[10:06] <nkbreau> does anyone know how to fix the folllowing apt-get install error - http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=6100
[10:06] <Yodude> so? how?
[10:06] <nalioth> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:06] <nette> hey, does anyone know of a program where you can use your keyboard as a piano?
[10:06] <echosyp> haha
[10:06] <pollywog_> the thing is that if I reinstall I will have the same problem since I don't know which package screwed things up
[10:06] <nalioth> !tell nette about repeat
[10:06] <yommb> mandrill : http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[10:06] <echosyp> haha
[10:06] <alexd> echosyp: i sent a mesage back
[10:06] <Mandrill> yommb: ty
[10:06] <vox754> pbureau, mwe  somebody please help Yodude to install nvidia drivers before he kills his system.
[10:06] <echosyp> i didn't get it
[10:06] <nalioth> alexd: you need to be identifed to services to send private messages
[10:07] <jahid> i have installed kate, but its not on the menu. should it be on any menu?
[10:07] <echosyp> alexd, are you registered
[10:07] <pbureau> nette, try http://www.freshmeat.net /
[10:07] <MuffY> where are the kernel headers in Edgy?
[10:07] <Morrowyn> nkbreau,  try line 24 on your paste perhaps
[10:07] <echosyp> alexd /msg nickserv register
[10:07] <nette> pbureau, ok thanks
[10:07] <nalioth> jahid: it should be there somewhere, kde puts things in a different spot on the gnome menu
[10:07] <Flannel> !headers | MuffY
[10:07] <ubotu> MuffY: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:07] <pbureau> vox754, nope I know nothing of nvidia.. I refuse to install those cards in my syste, because they are always having driver issues
[10:07] <jahid> nalioth, i looked on all the menus, but didnt get.
[10:08] <oggie> jason__: sudo ./installflashplayer : command not found ..i got this error
[10:08] <mwe> nalioth: not to be annoying, but can you tell me how sudo su - would break things (I've used it for years with old versions of sudo that doesn't support the -i and -s switches)
[10:08] <MuffY> Flannel: i don't want to install them, some application seends them to install USB support
[10:08] <nalioth> jahid: perhaps you should restart your gnome-panel
[10:08] <nkbreau> wow, how would have though that would actually work. thanks Morrowyn
[10:08] <vox754> pbureau: well, he left. I'm gone too, gotta eat.
[10:08] <pbureau> bye vox...
[10:08] <Flannel> MuffY: /usr/src
[10:08] <Morrowyn> np
[10:08] <jahid> nalioth, ok
[10:08] <nalioth> mwe: Ubuntu has always supported sudo -i and sudo -s   "sudo su" is the snake eating itself
[10:08] <Mumbles> damm still no luck
[10:09] <nalioth> mwe: what we personally do is our business, helping in Ubuntu should be Ubuntu-centric
[10:09] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: You could try System -> Administration -> Device Manager, and then scroll down through the list of device to find your graphics card.
[10:09] <jason__> oggie: Are you in the directory where flashplayer was extracted?  for example lets say you extracted it to your desktop and the folder is called "flashplayer"  you would want to type. cd /home/username/Desktop/flashplayer
[10:09] <jexdawg> thanks ensign
[10:09] <MuffY> Flannel: ok, the makefile of the program that needs them has a default for /lib/modules , that's normal in other distros?
[10:09] <alexd> how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:09] <mwe> nalioth: that's why I recommended sudo -i ;) I use it myself as well. I was just curious
[10:09] <alexd> ehosyp: how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:09] <alexd> echosyp: how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:10] <oggie> jason__: im in there...here's what i got
[10:10] <oggie> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[10:10] <oggie>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[10:10] <daviddixon> Is anyone familiar with installing MATlab
[10:10] <ooszy> anyone else got their network settings totally wiped out after the most recent kernel update? netstat -r is showing me no routing tables, no local ip through ifconfig on eth0. If i disable dhcp and set the ip manually it lets me get to my router but no internet. Any ideas?
[10:10] <nalioth> alexd: /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[10:10] <_enigma_> hi all
[10:10] <nalioth> oggie: what hardware do you have?
[10:10] <mwe> nalioth: I'll stop bothering you now, though ;)
[10:10] <jexdawg> ensign, that worked beautifully. thank you.
[10:10] <nalioth> mwe: please don't  :)
[10:10] <oggie> jason__:amd 64
[10:10] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: No problem.
[10:10] <nalioth> oggie: you are out of luck with flash  :(
[10:11] <oggie> jason__: sorry to hear that..is there none i can do?
[10:11] <nalioth> oggie: it only works on x86 (you CAN run it on amd64 with some hoops to jump through)
[10:11] <alexd> echosyp: i'm going to log off for a sec, i pm you when i get regstered
[10:11] <nalioth> alexd: you don't need to log off
[10:11] <nalioth> !tell oggie about flash
[10:11] <nette> can you run Mac-files on ubuntu?
[10:11] <ksngay> hi!
[10:11] <EnsignRedshirt> daviddixon: There are a couple of threads in the forum (ubuntuforums.org) about installing matlab (if you don't get an answer here).
[10:11] <echosyp> k
[10:11] <oggie> nalioth: can u tell about the hoops
[10:11] <alexd> nalioth: the name i want to register with is already registered
[10:11] <ksngay> i got a error on installing steam via wine
[10:11] <nalioth> nette: not really
[10:11] <pbureau> nette, if your running ubuntu on a mac.. :)
[10:11] <nalioth> oggie: check your private messages from ubotu
[10:11] <jrib> daviddixon: wiki.ubuntu.com has a guide as well
[10:11] <ksngay> anyone can help me?
[10:12] <jason__> oggie: Ok then your running on 64bit, you have 3 options. #1 Fire off an angry letter to adobe saying that your another one of the many many people who are getting sick of waiting on them to support 64Bit, option#2 Install a 32bit version of ubuntu instead of the 64bit, Option #3 Find a tutorial on running your browser and flash in a 32bit chrooted environment
[10:12] <cantsee> hi all, i can't seem to find how to fix this issue online, i've even looked at the fixvideoresolutionhowto and it doesn't resolve it; when i install ubuntu and reboot, i can't see the gdm, all i see is a lot of vertical lines
[10:12] <nette> nalioth, hm okai...
[10:12] <daviddixon> thanks
[10:12] <Hoosteen> ok..i've got a directory on my desktop that i want to delete but it needs root access, if i do it via terminal, how can i delete all the files and subfolders?
[10:12] <Tux> !help
[10:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:12] <Mandrill> Yommb: basically I'm the only person who's going to be accessing the drive but I'll be doing it from another computer. I want to be able to write files to the drive read the drive's contents and run any program executables on the drive on the other machine. (the fact that the machine I'll be doing this from is a windows machine is a whole other problem for another time)
[10:12] <Yodude> can you tell me how to stop X again?
[10:12] <jexdawg> cantsee - do you have all the latest drivrs?
[10:12] <jrib> Hoosteen: rm -r
[10:12] <Yodude> i had to reset i forgot the filename
[10:12] <mwe> Hoosteen: sudo rm -rf /path/to/dir. be careful though!
[10:12] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3?
[10:12] <oggie> jason__: thank you jason..btw..can you run MS window application while on ubuntu?>
[10:12] <pbureau> Hoosteen,  sudo rm -r <directory>
[10:12] <alexd> nalioth: it was alexd
[10:12] <cantsee> i'm not sure i did an apt-get update
[10:13] <mwe> Hoosteen: a typo can hose the system
[10:13] <Tux> !xmacro
[10:13] <ubotu> xmacro: Record / Play keystrokes and mouse movements in X displays. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3pre-20000911-4 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[10:13] <cantsee> i have nvidia
[10:13] <ksngay> anyone can help me? i got a error with wine plz? http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:13] <mindstate> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:13] <oggie> jason__: can you run ms IE while in ubuntu?
[10:13] <jason__> oggie: Check out winehq.com
[10:13] <jexdawg> i have ati and am unfamiliar with that problem. sorry
[10:13] <kitche> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:13] <Hoosteen> hehe..thanks guys!
[10:13] <ksngay> kitche:
[10:13] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:14] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3? I am used to the former version where you can "xmacroplay :0 <"
[10:14] <larson9999> oggie: i think you still need to run ie4linux
[10:14] <ksngay> can u help me? :(
[10:14] <mindstate> kitche: hehe didnt realize he said stop
[10:14] <Hoosteen> still learning here....glad you all are patient with my questions...lol
[10:14] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> thanks all, found a friend to personally help me =)
[10:14] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> bye
[10:14] <cantsee> thanks
[10:14] <ooszy> can someone remind me if there is a way to force the routing tables to reconfigure? It seems like the latest kernel upgrade erased everything :(
[10:14] <kitche> ksnday: did you configure wine correctly?
[10:14] <larson9999> oggie: but maybe not.  keep that in mind if you can't install it via 'normal' wine
[10:14] <Yodude> after i close it can i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to start the X window system again?
[10:15] <cantsee> it's weird that i can't get it to work after installation but booting from the cd works great
[10:15] <mwe> ooszy: you're not the first to complain about network problems after a kernel upgrade today
[10:15] <Tux> anyone?
[10:15] <kitche> Yodude: start instead of restart
[10:15] <jason__> iv'e never installed IE, so i dont know, but that sounds like the norm
[10:15] <Yodude> k
[10:15] <canine_kouji> meh
[10:15] <oggie> larson9999: thanks man
[10:15] <ooszy> mwe: no solutions yet i'm guessing?
[10:15] <canine_kouji> the wiki for  playing back dvds just neds to say... sudo apt-get install vlc. heh
[10:15] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3? I am used to the former version where you can "xmacroplay :0 <".
[10:16] <jexdawg> not specifically ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to remove the HUGE buddy icons on your buddy list for gaim (aim)?
[10:16] <crimsun> canine_kouji: only for i386.
[10:16] <larson9999> oggie: not that i'm advocating running ie
[10:16] <mwe> ooszy: I'm running a custom kernel so I'm not really into the issue. using the old kernel until it's fixed should always work, though
[10:16] <canine_kouji> crimsun: oh?
[10:16] <jacquesdupontd> salut
[10:16] <pbureau> canine_kouji,  but you need libdvdcss toplay them.... in any application :)
[10:16] <mr_cha0s> can anyone tell me what config file has like, global path information?
[10:16] <canine_kouji> pbureau: yes I know
[10:16] <jrib> mr_cha0s: /etc/environment
[10:16] <oggie> larson9999: i understand
[10:16] <crimsun> canine_kouji: yeah, vlc+libdvdcss2 on amd64 seem quite unstable
[10:16] <ooszy> mwe: I tried that -11 -10 , neither work
[10:16] <canine_kouji> but the page says gstreamer dvd plugin not ported to Edgy yet
[10:16] <Mr680x0> uh
[10:16] <Tux> Does anyone here use XMacro 0.3?
[10:16] <Mr680x0> I'm having a problem again
[10:17] <mwe> ooszy: oh. maybe something else is wrong
[10:17] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I've been using vlc +libdvdcss2 on intel core2 duo for the past month. I've had NO problems
[10:17] <Mr680x0> in the OEM setup I put my username in as John, and I can't login
[10:17] <mr_cha0s> jexdawg: tools->preeferences->buddy list->show buddy icons
[10:17] <mwe> ooszy: -10 used to work?
[10:17] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: :)  The '00's of this century will go down in history as the decade of big, cartoonish, plastic-looking icons.
[10:17] <Clubbed> mwe! I got it to work again :D:D:D:D thank you so much. i thought id never see linux again
[10:17] <ooszy> could be, but it is due to the upgrade from today.
[10:17] <ooszy> yah
[10:17] <cheatersrealm> anyone have a working logitech mx5000 bluetooth set?
[10:17] <mwe> Clubbed: heh. now reinstall bash
[10:17] <Mr680x0> does it have something to do with the capital J?
[10:17] <ooszy> as soon as i rebooted after the update, no network.
[10:17] <mr_cha0s> thanks jrib, lemme check that out
[10:17] <canine_kouji> crimsun: though, I've been using genpoo, because I require the latest kernel and other code, since the ubuntu release is too old
[10:17] <kitche> Mr680x0: yeah you need to enter John exactly
[10:17] <mwe> Clubbed: to make sure the right binary is in place
[10:18] <ooszy> the card seems to be there still, but netstat -r shows nothing
[10:18] <Clubbed> mwe, yup, did that already before i actually booted
[10:18] <mwe> Clubbed: congrats ;)
[10:18] <Tux> Does anyone here use XMacro 0.3?
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I'm hoping the next linux kernel release will be bundled with ubuntu's next release
[10:18] <ooszy> If I hardcore the ip (it's usually dhcp) I can get to my gateway but can't go beyond that
[10:18] <jexdawg> ensign - in the version packaged with ubuntu, Buddy List isn't under tools.... not to worry though, its under Buddies (show buddy details) so i've got it under control. ty though (again)
[10:18] <kitche> Tux: if none anwsers you then probably not
[10:18] <nalioth> !tell Tux about repeat
[10:18] <crimsun> canine_kouji: yes, we will ship feisty with 2.6.20
[10:18] <Mr680x0> kitche: I entered it exactly
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: well .20 is okay
[10:18] <Mr680x0> I still can't login
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: that is what my genpoo box runs
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: the *next* kernel release will specifically support core2 and the other new procs very well
[10:19] <Funtwo> hello how can i get Synaptic to detect my i686 kernel instead of i386?
[10:19] <crimsun> canine_kouji: we will not ship 2.6.21.
[10:19] <pbureau> Funtwo, recompile it
[10:19] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png PPLZZ ANYONE HELP ME
[10:19] <ksngay> :(
[10:19] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: Is there a countdown time for it?
[10:19] <ksngay> i got a error installing steam on wine
[10:19] <Funtwo> :) thanks
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: how sad.
[10:19] <jexdawg> thanks for all the help guys. peace.
[10:19] <crimsun> canine_kouji: it was decided in november that feisty would ship with 2.6.20.
[10:20] <cheatersrealm> haha stema is broken
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I'd probably at least include it in package form, since core2 is very popular now
[10:20] <crimsun> canine_kouji: how would it be included in package form?
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: well, who ever made that decision needs to get out more
[10:20] <echosyp> .deb
[10:20] <ksngay> cheatersrealm: what?
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: so people could apt-get it if they wanted to
[10:20] <cheatersrealm> ksngay: I never got steam to work.. mostly because I dual boot and didn't care
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: people running the latest hardware
[10:21] <crimsun> canine_kouji: our kernel lead is well respected. He's credited with the firewire subsystem, for instance.
[10:21] <EnsignRedshirt> ksngay: That link popped up windows in my browser, which is rude, so I never got to your screenshot.
[10:21] <crimsun> canine_kouji: it may be possible to backport patches for better support, but you'll need to chip in.
[10:21] <Yodude> hey after i closed X i got into a black screen
[10:21] <ooszy> kern.log shows: eth0 No IPv6 routers present ..
[10:21] <ooszy> i would agree with that lol
[10:21] <Yodude> i tried to enter commands but they didn't seem to work
[10:22] <canine_kouji> crimsun: yes well, then he just gave them fuel for the windows trolls since ubuntu's next release will not be as fast like the core2 advertises
[10:22] <nalioth> Yodude: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[10:22] <mr_cha0s> thanks for the help guys, this chatroom is owning my 56k, peace... :P
[10:22] <crimsun> canine_kouji: you can't ship the latest code always; that's a simple tradeoff in a time-based release schedule.
 people still using phone line for the internet ? wow
[10:22] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I can only hope they're release a version 4 months after, heh
[10:23] <crimsun> canine_kouji: 6.
[10:23] <Meodudlye> teclo: ?
[10:23] <nalioth> I-kido: hosts file is better, imo
[10:23] <teclo> Good evening. Say, when the fuck are you folks gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[10:23] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[10:23] <canine_kouji> lmao
[10:23] <pbureau> crimsun, I prefer to see a stable release with a 1-2 versions behind than get bloody-edge kernel that needs 5-6 patche sthe week it is out
[10:23] <canine_kouji> "send patches or stfu" :)
[10:23] <I-kido> nalioth, i block some pics, not complete sites :)
[10:24] <crimsun> pbureau: that's obviously what we're going for :)
[10:24] <nalioth> I-kido: to each their own
[10:24] <Mr680x0> is there any way I can find/reset my username/password?
[10:24] <pbureau> crimsun, inetrestingly alot of people dont understand that, guess they are so used to having windows + patches on daily basis...lol
[10:24] <Sonderblade> when will ubuntu upgrade to python 2.5?
[10:24] <canine_kouji> hehe
[10:24] <crimsun> Sonderblade: it has been the default in feisty for some time.
[10:24] <mwe> Mr680x0: find it? ;)
[10:24] <I-kido> nalioth, normally host file is better i know :)
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: can't you log in?
[10:25] <Sonderblade> crimsun: but in edgy
[10:25] <oggie> anyone..when you add application and then you already download the packages..how do you install them?
[10:25] <kitche> Sonderblade: next release probably
[10:25] <Mr680x0> mwe: No, I can't
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: boot a live cd and examine the passwd file
[10:25] <jason__> telco: Im on it, ill be fixing the bugs, right after I finish my "Primer Plus Fith Edition for C" book, and learn Python, C++, and all the other languages that are used in the thousands of packages that make up the distro. And then learn to clone myself so that I can work on many different things at once.
[10:25] <canine_kouji> Sonderblade: if you're wanting to develop on ubuntu, I recommend doing what I do... Have a separate development directory with custom built software
[10:25] <crimsun> Sonderblade: no, we do not touch frozen, stable releases. Kinda defeats the purpose of "frozen", not to mention it's technically not feasible.
[10:25] <Mr680x0> uh, I can't use live CDs
[10:25] <EnsignRedshirt> Sonderblade: edgy won't upgrade to 2.5.
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: how did you install?
[10:25] <Mr680x0> they don't work with my video card, mwe
[10:25] <Mr680x0> I used an Alternate install CD
[10:25] <rhenus> was ist denn ubuntu 6.12 pro?
[10:25] <Mr680x0> and set the display after installing
[10:25] <mapedan> oggie, what do you mean? You've downloaded the package and you don't know how to install it?
[10:26] <mwe> Mr680x0: so boot that one and do it
[10:26] <Mr680x0> uh, k
[10:26] <echosyp> alexd, im out, got shit to do
[10:26] <mwe> Mr680x0: you can alt-f2 to get a prompt IIRC
[10:26] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here using Cenega with fglrx?
[10:26] <echosyp> hopefully that'll work for you
[10:26] <oggie> mapedan: yes..i downloaded them..are they already or auto-installed then?
[10:26] <alexd> echosyp: thanks for the help
[10:26] <kitche> Fanskapet: do you mean cedega?
[10:26] <Sonderblade> crimsun: fair enough, but i hope they will continue to bugfix 2.4
[10:27] <mapedan> if you've downloaded them from the internet (with firefox) you have to install them
[10:27] <Fanskapet> kitche: hehe yes :P
[10:27] <mapedan> dpkg -i <package name>
[10:27] <Mr680x0> mwe: I have the prompt up, how do I get to the passwd file?
[10:27] <ooszy> mwe: All of the sudden (after 15 mins down) the network seems to be back up, the routing tables are set again. odd!
[10:27] <kitche> Fanskapet: did you look at transgraming.org for your problem?
[10:27] <oggie> mapedan: i got it now..i got the prompt they are already installed
[10:27] <crimsun> Sonderblade: only if it merits an SRU.
[10:27] <Fanskapet> kitche: yep
[10:27] <oggie> mapedan: i but not to all packages i downloaded
[10:27] <Fanskapet> don't find any info how to solve this problem.
[10:27] <mwe> Mr680x0: well first you need to mount the file system
[10:28] <mwe> Mr680x0: do you know the partition name?
[10:28] <mapedan> oggie, I'm glad!
[10:28] <Mr680x0> uh, how do I do that?
[10:28] <Fanskapet> wine works correctly so i dunno why Cedega won't do the trick
[10:28] <mwe> Mr680x0: do you know the partition name?
[10:28] <Mr680x0> no... :/
[10:28] <oggie> mapedan : because some were not added in the application menu
[10:28] <Sonderblade> crimsun: i dont know whta that is
[10:28] <Mr680x0> how would I find the partition name, mwe?
[10:29] <mwe> Mr680x0: hmm. you need to figure it. is it IDE and primary or secondary controller?
[10:29] <crimsun> Sonderblade: wiki/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:29] <Hoosteen> how do i find out what version of GTK i'm running?
[10:29] <Mr680x0> it's a built in laptop HD
[10:29] <Mr680x0> so IDE
[10:29] <Mr680x0> and primary
[10:29] <codi> Anyone know why X won't start after a reboot now?
[10:29] <Clubbed> New problem: I somehow deleted my user profile from User Settings. I just changed my userid from 1000 to 1 and it disappeared, how can i safely restore him without losing my desktop preferences?
[10:29] <pbureau> hoosten most programs have a --help to find out how to query for the version
[10:30] <Mr680x0> mwe: it's primary and IDE
[10:30] <ompaul> codi, log in and type startx if that does not start it then you have broken your X so get back to some kind of working one issue this command, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <pbureau> Hoosteen,  but if your lazy like I am load synaptic search for gtk and look at the version number
[10:30] <Konoko> Hello. Is there a channel on freenode for general linux releated help?
[10:30] <mwe> Mr680x0: then it's /dev/hdaX X being a number between 1 and 8. do you have windows on the disk?
[10:30] <codi> how would i have broken it
[10:30] <Mr680x0> no Windows
[10:31] <jrib> Konoko: #linux
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: so just linux?
[10:31] <Konoko> thanks
[10:31] <Mr680x0> mew: yes
[10:31] <Mr680x0> *mwe: yes
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: it's probably /dev/hda1 then
[10:31] <ompaul> codi, I don't know you asked why it won't start after a reboot, reasonable on my part to assume it started before
[10:31] <Mr680x0> ok
[10:31] <Hoosteen> pbureau: hehe..that's what i was starting to do :)
[10:31] <Mr680x0> so what do I do?
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt. try it
[10:31] <oggie> any torrent sites where i can download music or video files?
[10:31] <ktulu-> hi. is there a way to end sudo mode before it expires?
[10:31] <britt_> hey people, how do i remove programs that automatically start up in the console?
[10:31] <codi> it did, i did nothing but reboot like it asked me to
[10:32] <britt_> it's definately not in ,bashrc
[10:32] <codi> my guess is updates
[10:32] <Mr680x0> mwe: it says Permission Denied
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> Mr680x0, use sudo?
[10:32] <ompaul> codi, did you try to do binary drivers at some stage?
[10:32] <mwe> Mr680x0: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[10:32] <TuTUx> oggie, torrentspy.com, dont ask this kind of question here, it's not for this.
[10:32] <codi> i've done nothing more than install and update
[10:32] <codi> i don't even know what binary drivers are
[10:33] <mysta> hello, can i make my second ALT key perform just as the first ALT key?
[10:33] <ompaul> codi, that is updates within a version? not trying to move from version to version? (which)
[10:33] <oggie> TuTUx tnx
[10:33] <codi> within a version i guess, the auto updates from ubuntu
[10:34] <ompaul> codi, log in and do this: sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <Mr680x0> mwe: it's mounted, what do I do now?
[10:34] <ktulu-> anyone know how to exit out of sudo mode?
[10:34] <ompaul> codi, log in and do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    (typo)
[10:34] <mwe> Mr680x0: nano /mnt/etc/passwd and look for your user name
[10:35] <lufis> ktulu-: just close the terminal
[10:35] <vox754> All you with NVidia cards, don't update to latest Kernel, 2.6.17-11
[10:35] <ompaul> ktulu-, it stops after 15 minutes
[10:35] <Music_Shuffle> ktulu-, wait? Close the terminal?
[10:35] <pbureau> ktulu-,  just type exit
[10:35] <e\ectro_> how do I get verbose output for kubuntu on startup?
[10:35] <Mr680x0> mwe: Permission Denied
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: hus
[10:35] <lufis> e
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: sudo nano /mnt/etc/passwd
[10:35] <codi> i did, and went through some config screens, selected default for everything and it still doesn't work
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: don't change the file, though
[10:35] <lufis> e\ectro_: remove "quit" from your grub boot option, maybe?
[10:35] <ktulu-> thanks
[10:35] <shatrat> e\ectro_, you can edit the boot options and remove "splash" and "quiet", that should do it
[10:35] <jexdawg> i want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list (for beryl installation purposes) but i can't because its root access only. i can open it in gedit but cannot save it... my other option of course is sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal, but i'm not familiar with how to edit it and then save what i edited. any help?
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: just look for your user name
[10:36] <lufis> e\ectro_: quiet*
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> jexdawg, when you open it in gedit, just append the sudo to the front of that
[10:36] <mwe> jexdawg: gksudo gedit. back it up first though
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> jexdawg, Works just like opening in nano with sudo.
[10:36] <shatrat> jexdawg, you edit in nano pretty normally and use ctrl o to save, ctrl x to exit.
[10:36] <mwe> Music_Shuffle: no. don't sudo gui-app
[10:36] <mwe> !gksudo
[10:36] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[10:36] <shatrat> jexdawg, I recommend learning nano if you are gonna use beryl, it helps when you try to recover your system after having hosed it.
[10:36] <jexdawg> you guys are speaking to me like i know what i'm talking about... haha. thanks though, i'll try shatrats method
[10:36] <lufis> what's wrong with using sudo and gui?
[10:36] <la> adfsdf
[10:37] <Mr680x0> mwe: I don't see my user name