[03:36] <chalcedony> ok i have the cd in this vista box, what next to make a hardy cd for the router?
[03:36] <scribe05> !ask looking for help with monitor problem.  New display looks stretched out.  Moved up to a larger monitor.  using 8.04
[03:36] <debian_akroyd> and then reload alsa (sudo alsa reload)
[03:37] <The_Gopher> hey there, having a problem with my partitions, tried updating from 7.10 to 8.0.4, when I did that in ubuntu it locked up and I lost the install, in reinstalling it my windows drive showed up at first as an accesible mounted drive, now it just shows up in gparted with an exclamation point
[03:37] <binskipy2u> anyone here familar with Remastersys to spin your own ubuntu ISO???
[03:37] <alexjb> can someone help me?
[03:37] <Grackle> chalcedony, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows
[03:37] <The_Gopher> any ideas on how to mount it and get ubuntu to recognize it?
[03:37] <rafael> de
[03:38] <Entropy51423> Anyone experienced with Wireshark?
[03:38] <Flannel> !repeat | Entropy51423
[03:38] <Entropy51423> Okay, thanks
[03:38] <alexjb> im trying to install ubuntu 8.04 on one of my computers and after i choose english and install the backround and a window loads but theres just a messed up color blotch in the window
[03:39] <scribe05> !patience
[03:39] <gregbrady> I'm really struggling with a printer installation here.  It is a bit unusual and was wondering if someone could help out here.
[03:39] <Entropy51423> I have been trying to get answers for two days, but there are logins in the Wireshark IRC, but they haven't responded ever to anything
[03:39] <alexjb> anyone have any ideas?
[03:39] <EDocToor> ziploc1 sh
[03:39] <EDocToor>  sh [options] [file [arguments] ]
[03:39] <EDocToor> The standard Unix shell, a command interpreter into which all other commands are entered. On modern versions of Linux, this is just another name for the bash shell. For more information, see
[03:40] <debian_akroyd> Entropy51423, did you try googling it?
[03:40] <ziploc1> uh ok..
[03:40] <Entropy51423> I was refering to the Wireshark IRC, not here I have only asked twice, just now
[03:40] <ziploc1> but do you know how to execute it?
[03:40] <debian_akroyd> oh
[03:41] <silas_> debian_akroyd: It didn't work, it's really frustrating... if i click the test button it kills my ears but it works... though VLC and other media players still not working
[03:41] <]grimm[> Is there a way to disable shadows for a given window when compositing is enabled in metacity?
[03:41] <EDocToor> ziploc1... I am still searching
[03:42] <ziploc1> oh ok, don't let me bug you
[03:42] <kevinO> how do i make a partition (fat32) show up under my computer?
[03:42] <Flannel> Entropy51423: Usually its best to wait 15-20 minutes at least. Enough time for new people to join/wakeup/etc
[03:42] <teq> kevinO: fdisk?
[03:43] <chalcedony> Entropy51423 wireshark is good and pretty well documented
[03:43] <snowman> hay i have a webcam i used on windows now im useing linux  can someone help me please
[03:43] <teq> snowman: state your problem
[03:43] <snowman> webcam
[03:43] <teq> snowman: what about that
[03:44] <snowman> can you use it on linux
[03:44] <debian_akroyd> bahaha
[03:44] <kevinO> tek, i set it up as /windows when i installed ubuntu, how would fdisk help?
[03:44] <teq> snowman: have u tried plugging it?
[03:44] <debian_akroyd> snowman, well plug it in and try it out...
[03:44] <EDocToor> ziploc1,,, the best that I could find what using sh to execute a ". run" file ... for example: "   sh  ws-1.0-BirthDay-Reliz.run "
[03:44] <kindofabuzz> how would i change in gnome the default program to open a pdf from evince to xpdf?
[03:44] <teq> lol yea
[03:44] <EDocToor> ziploc1.. thats sorry but thats all I have
[03:45] <ziploc1> if it helps though, there is also an executable file in one of the folders that will not work. It has a padlock icon in the top right.
[03:45] <Entropy51423> Flannel: The same 10 people have been logged in for 2 days straight, unresponsive, almost like a small bot.net waiting for a command would be(I am not saying they are a bot.net, just giving you an idea of how slow things are)
[03:46] <gregbrady> How do I tell a printer to use ttyUSB0 with cups?
[03:46] <EDocToor> Pad lock means that the file is owned by another user... Right click on it for details.. or use a shell in # sudo gedit filename.txt to view a text file
[03:47] <peeps> is ubuntu mobile installable?
[03:47] <trimeta> How can I install otr 3.2.0 in Hardy? 3.1.0 is the latest in hardy-unstable, and I don't want to migrate my whole system to intrepid.
[03:47] <peeps> i can't seem to find anywhere that its available?
[03:47] <trimeta> (And by "hardy-unstable" I meant "hardy-backports")
[03:48] <Ryan_Delaney> okay I installed hardy on my fileserver to set it up, now that its all going I dont need the desktop anymore since I administer through ssh. can I uninstall the desktop? :D
[03:48] <Flannel> !prevu | trimeta
[03:48] <debian_akroyd> Ryan_Delaney, sudo apt-get remove gnome
[03:48] <The_Gopher> So I'll rephrase my question :P Having problems getting grub (or anything really) to recognize my windows partition
[03:48] <debian_akroyd> Ryan_Delaney, or what ever desktop program your using
[03:49] <Flannel> !purekde | Ryan_Delaney
[03:49] <trimeta> debian_akroyd: Wouldn't sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove be better?
[03:49] <harrism_> hey if i have an nvidia card with the nvidia driver, and composite is not in my xorg.conf, how does the xfce
[03:49] <harrism_> 's compositing work?
[03:49] <Flannel> Ryan_Delaney: Except, get rid of the "install kubuntu-desktop" at the end (and you'll still need to remove some X stuff)
[03:49] <zv0> the khamra package is essential
[03:49] <DelphianSpectre> Good evening, I've had 8.04 installed about 3 hours now. I am going to ghost the channel and try to sponge some knowledge while I read, Just wanted to say hello.
[03:49] <debian_akroyd> trimeta, yah..if hes using ubuntu desktop
[03:50] <gamesiano> hola
[03:50] <trimeta> debian_akroyd: True, kubuntu-desktop would make sense if that's what he installed.
[03:50] <russ> Hi, does anybody have a theory why my gtkpod software is not recognizing when I've listened to a podcast, since I upgraded to hardy?
[03:50] <Ryan_Delaney> ubottu: Sorry, I dont want a KDE system, I just want a terminal.
[03:50] <edju> dmesg shows "apm: BIOS not found".  Wonder what's loading, or trying to load, apm?
[03:50] <Ryan_Delaney> Flannel: Sorry, I dont want a KDE system, I just want a terminal.
[03:51] <Ryan_Delaney> whoops, looks like debian_Akroyd got my question. thanks
[03:51] <gamesiano> i am editing a text file with nano, but i forgot to write 'sudo'
[03:51] <Flannel> Ryan_Delaney: yes, I mentioned you'dneed to remove the install of kubuntu-desktop at the end.
[03:51] <debian_akroyd> lol yw ryan_delaney
[03:51] <gamesiano> how can i own that process with su or sudo?
[03:51] <gamesiano> as root
[03:51] <ziploc1> EDoctoor: Thanks, but I can't get it to work, but maybe you know a good program for running windows based programs?
[03:51] <Ryan_Delaney> ziploc1: wine? :)
[03:51] <ziploc1> tried it
[03:51] <dr_Willis> gamesiano,  you dont. you could save the file to the users home dir. then use sudo cp to copy it to the right place.
[03:52] <ziploc1> ddn't work too well
[03:52] <ziploc1> for this one
[03:52] <debian_akroyd> gamesiano, trust me, it would be better just to use sudo
[03:52] <Ryan_Delaney> Other than wine I dont know of any other options besides virtual machines
[03:52] <EDocToor> ziploc1,, what are you trying to do???????????
[03:52] <gamesiano> yes... but i want to know if there is a way to own a process of another user
[03:52] <ziploc1> heh I was trying to install a parallel so that I could run a game
[03:53] <dr_Willis> gamesiano,  not that i have ever seen or heard of.
[03:53] <trimeta> gamesiano: If you edited the file with gnome-terminal (or some other graphical terminal thing), you could copy the text (by highlighting it), paste it somewhere unimportant, and then close nano; then do "sudo nano <filename>" and paste in your changes.
[03:53] <gamesiano> exec as root
[03:53] <Flannel> gamesiano: You want to run something as someone else?
[03:53] <gamesiano> the process yet exists
[03:53] <trimeta> Flannel: I think he wants to have one user take over a process which already exists.
[03:53] <EDocToor> ziploc1 try to askyour  question on ##club-ubuntu
[03:53] <Flannel> gamesiano: No
[03:53] <debian_akroyd> You want to run something as someone else?.....well that would just be a simple su [username] [program]
[03:53] <gamesiano> i want to change the uid of the process
[03:54] <debian_akroyd> oh
[03:54] <CrocoJet> hi all ! I am trying to get access from win vista to Ubuntu hardy. When I sharing folder in Ubuntu, I am getting this message: "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied"
[03:54] <Flannel> debian_akroyd: No, because su won't work.  You'd use sudo -u username program
[03:54] <ziploc1> uh ok then
[03:54] <EDocToor> ziploc1, there are a couple of Ubuntu gamers there
[03:54] <ziploc1> kk
[03:54] <Dreamboy> hi all
[03:54] <ziploc1> hanks for all of your help
[03:54] <gamesiano> maybe...
[03:54] <ziploc1> bye
[03:54] <Ryan_Delaney> CoroJet: I have the same problem also, thank you for asking this question
[03:54] <gamesiano> sudo -u username process
[03:54] <debian_akroyd> Flannel, i thought you could use su to run programs as another user
[03:54] <Flannel> gamesiano: That won't work for already running ones.  No.
[03:54] <CrocoJet> Ryan_Delaney, ok
[03:55] <gamesiano> where process yet exists
[03:55] <gamesiano> i wil try--- jejjee
[03:56] <gamesiano> well it does not work...
[03:56] <gamesiano> :(
[03:57] <gamesiano> not with sudo -u root 19221
[03:57] <The_Gopher> Ok narrowed down my problem a little bit, gparted is telling me that my ntfs partition is unreadable, but ubuntu was able to read it early today
[03:58] <scribe05> ! change monitor
[03:58] <scribe05> ! install new monitor
[03:58] <EDocToor> ZipLoc1,,, TRY USING WINE
[03:58] <asdf1234> can someone help me out, i just installed ubuntu and am in a bit over my head, somehow I removed the option to shutdown and log-out from the gui(but hibernate and the rest are still there)
[03:58] <The_Gopher> !gparted
[03:58] <EDocToor> ZipLoc1 Not drinking it
[03:59] <EDocToor> gparted
[03:59] <Yud_Zroc> !logout
[03:59] <Yud_Zroc> !help
[03:59] <scribe05> looking for help installing a new monitor.  The display looks stretched
[04:00] <Yud_Zroc> !c++
[04:00] <EDocToor> Yud,,, don't break my bot...lol
[04:00] <Yud_Zroc> but but but
[04:00] <Yud_Zroc> :(
[04:00] <EDocToor> lol
[04:00] <debian_akroyd> lol
[04:00] <Saladin> Hiya people, just a quickie... I installed mySQL on my local machine, through Synaptic, but I have no idea where it would be installed. Anyone know the default by any chance?
[04:00] <Yud_Zroc> it would only break if u made it on windows....so stop complaining lol
[04:00] <cobber2005> Anyone get flickering after waking up from a suspend in Hard?
[04:02] <EDocToor> Ziploc1 $ sudo apt-get --install wine                                        I think thats what you need
[04:02] <burkesbythebay>  Can anyone tell me how to get a HP PSC 1210 AllInOne working in 8.04
[04:02] <Yud_Zroc> burkesbythebay: go to add/remove and type all and make sure all is selected
[04:02] <MethodOne> ziploc1, if you want the latest version, go to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:02] <orgthingy> hi
[04:03] <orgthingy> omg, my charger stopped charging my laptop :O
[04:03] <Yud_Zroc> that aint good
[04:03] <orgthingy> it's using battery power!
[04:03] <ntiy> throw it away
[04:03] <cobber2005> Yud: where you suggesting I install wine to make the flickering stop??
[04:04] <Yud_Zroc> when running ubuntu under wubi and i get a windows virus on it...and then go into windows later without removing it...can windows get it
[04:04] <cobber2005> Opps, I mean EDocToor...
[04:04] <trimeta> Yud_Zroc: By "get a Windows virus," do you mean you opened an email with a Windows virus attached?
[04:05] <Guest81597> hello
[04:05] <Alsryth> hi all, I have a trivial issue where a specific application window appears in a fixed size and extends below the viewable desktop horizon.  Is there a way to drag window bars above the top of the screen to counter this?
[04:05] <Yud_Zroc> no...its a future referance question....
[04:05] <Guest81597> what is the subject we r talking about
[04:05] <|Adrian|> o/ Yud_Zroc :)
[04:05] <trimeta> Huh? As in, if you get a virus in Windows, does it affect Ubuntu?
[04:05] <isleshocky77> In regards to xorg is pos 0,0 top-left, bottom-left, etc?
[04:05] <EDocToor> cobber2005 I was talking to Ziploc1
[04:05] <|Adrian|> no virus in Windows should affect Ubuntu.
[04:06] <Yud_Zroc> trimeta: its because my freing gets viruses all the time...or spyware or adware...(seeing as linux dont get the,) but i was wondering if they would carry over in wubi
[04:06] <orgthingy> Alsryth: i dunno the answer but i like the way you wrote the question!
[04:06] <ntiy> just remove windows. it is a virus itself
[04:06] <Guest81597> the r 27 know virus for linux
[04:06] <trimeta> Yud_Zroc: If you have a virus in Windows, it's possible it could do bad stuff to your Wubi install, though it would have to be programmed specifically to do that.
[04:06] <The_Gopher> ugh, ubuntu totally sucks now, lost my windows install and I was considering switching to linux fulltime
[04:06] <Yud_Zroc> trimeta: other way around....
[04:06] <trimeta> Yud_Zroc: How would you get a virus in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <maynard> Would anyone be able to help me figure out why my Update Manager stopped working? I'm using 6.10 if that helps at all... Every time i try to update or upgrade it tells me "Could not download all repository indexes", and suggests i check my connection.. which is fine
[04:07] <Grackle> Alsryth, alt-LMB to drag the window
[04:07] <Flannel> maynard: Because 6.10 is no longer supported.
[04:07] <maynard> but it won't let me upgrade, either
[04:07] <orgthingy> 6.10 is like 2 years old?
[04:07] <Flannel> maynard: (and the repositories have gone down)
[04:07] <Alsryth> thanks grackle :)
[04:07] <cobber2005> my mistake, any one know how to fix a flicker after waking up from a suspend?
[04:07] <Guest81597> it mite b a bug
[04:07] <orgthingy> get Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS
[04:07] <Grackle> Alsryth, glad to help
[04:07] <Yud_Zroc> trimeta: say if the windows virus was in ubuntu (in wubi) and my friend booted back to windows would it affect it
[04:07] <Guest81597> what is going on
[04:07] <Flannel> maynard: You'll need to change your sources to old-archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and then upgrade to Feisty
[04:07] <EDocToor> Is "WINE" hard to use? Yes .... or No" or ... it takes about two days to get up up and running a windows game... would be perfect answers
[04:07] <maynard> thanks Flannel, i'll do that
[04:07] <Flannel> EDocToor: No
[04:08] <burkesbythebay>  how do i setup a HP PSC 1210 AllinOne
[04:08] <trimeta> Yud_Zroc: What do you mean, "the Windows virus was in Ubuntu"? It can't do anything in Ubuntu. It wouldn't even run if you didn't have Wine, and then it might not work as designed. And you'd have to have run it intentionally.
[04:08] <burkesbythebay> ubuntu hardy
[04:08] <Flannel> EDocToor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine will give you instructions
[04:08] <EDocToor> Cobber2005, Google Bugs and your OS and your computer type
[04:08] <Yud_Zroc> trimeta: no no no..
[04:08] <Guest81597> window and ubuntu are separated by a partion
[04:09] <Yud_Zroc> trimeta: flip the sentance around
[04:09] <trimeta> Guest81597: He's talking about a Wubi install.
[04:09] <Guest81597> i heard there is a antivirus for ubuntu
[04:09] <trimeta> Yud_Zroc: Tell me exactly what's happening within Ubuntu that relates to a Windows virus.
[04:09] <cobber2005> EDocToor: I"ve tried that, but all I get is info about problematic nVidia drivers, which I don't have
[04:09] <Blaqlight> Guest81597: there is, ClamAV and AVG among others.
[04:09] <arvind_k> Guest36101, yeah there is one clamav
[04:09] <arvind_k> Blaqlight, jinx
[04:10] <trimeta> Though doesn't ClamAV mostly scan for Windows viruses to make sure you don't infect people you send emails to?
[04:10] <kdb424> Hey. I'm having a huge triple boot issue with grub. Can someone help?
[04:10] <EDocToor> flannel,,, thanks
[04:10] <LSD|Ninja> Guest81597: there are a couple of anti virus products for Linux however at this point they're mainly for preventing the spread of viruses to Windows machines throigh files on the linux host, the virus threat in Linux itself is still fairly minimal
[04:10] <trimeta> kdb424: Possibly...describe it.
[04:10] <sivik> Someone told me to to resize a window do use middle click, that is not working
[04:10] <cobber2005> EdocToor: actually I didn't know Google Bugs was another website, I shall try that, thanks!
[04:10] <Blaqlight> trimeta: there really isn't one for linux viruses because there aren't enough linux viruses to make it a worthy cause.
[04:10] <Guest81597> ok i have a sound problem....well i have no sound and i just reformatted 3 days ago and it did work b4 that
[04:10] <Guest81597> what can i do
[04:11] <Guest81597> i install and reinstall and still no sound
[04:11] <gregbrady> Good evening folks, I'll try again in the new week.
[04:11] <alexjb> does someone want to help me, im havng trouble with an install, any help would be apreciated
[04:11] <Alsryth> grackel: I'm able to move the window in all directions except up.  Possibly because the application window is already touching the upper portion of the desktop.  Perhaps another solution is in order.  Is there a way to effectively "zoom out" a desktop view - aside from changing screen resolution?
[04:11] <ntiy> sivik: alt+ middle click
[04:11] <sivik> ok, thanks
[04:11] <Flannel> !anyone | alexjb, kdb424
[04:11] <kdb424> trimeta: when I try to boot to windows XP with REFIT, it boots grub, and when I boot to linux it does the same. But when I am in grub (they are both the same) and I boot to windows XP in the menu, It boots grub
[04:12] <alexjb> ok
[04:12] <sivik> i knew i was forgetting something ntiy
[04:12] <trimeta> kdb424: What is REFIT?
[04:12] <orgthingy> omg, what should I do :'(
[04:12]  * orgthingy 's charger doesnt work anymore
[04:12] <techdimension> @Guest81597 see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:12] <kdb424> trimeta: Sorry. I forgot to mention that I'm on a mac. My problem is with grub though
[04:12] <mbrigdan> how can I convert (well, make my system convert) a human readable time layout (ie: DD-MM-YYYY) into a Unix timestamp?
[04:12] <EDocToor> Cobber2005,, sorry but we are not .. or I am not clear...
[04:12] <Blaqlight> orgthingy: check to make sure the outlet switch isn't turned off.
[04:12] <Llewxam> hey guys.. um trying here to install an icon theme pack and i can't seem to figure out how to do it. tried the regular installation method and it spits out an "invalid theme" error.
[04:12] <alexjb> when i try to instzall after i select english and install the heron backround loads but the install window is all messed up
[04:12] <orgthingy> outlet?
[04:13] <Yud_Zroc> kdb424: u need bootcamp
[04:13]  * orgthingy checks everything
[04:13] <Blaqlight> I had that happene to me once, it never dawned on me to hit the switch.
[04:13] <chalcedony> where can i download hardy live from please?
[04:13] <orgthingy> Blaqlight: it was working just fine, and all of sudden, it stops charging
[04:13] <trimeta> mbrigdan: I think you can use "date"
[04:13] <orgthingy> battery power: 30 minutes left
[04:13] <Saladin> Anyone know where Synaptic installs mySQL?
[04:13] <orgthingy> NO!
[04:13] <Blaqlight> orgthingy: maybe the battery is fully charge?
[04:13] <kdb424> Yud_Zroc: I used that for windows XP. I used to boot into windows with that till I reinstalled Ubuntu
[04:13] <arvind_k> !hardy | chalcedony
[04:14] <arvind_k> !torrents | chalcedony
[04:14] <orgthingy> Blaqlight: no it isnt :( i wish
[04:14] <cobber2005> EDocToor: Oh I found a GoogleBugs website, I thought that's what you meant, but it's didn't have anything about flickering.  You just mean Google my problem.  I've tried, but I have't found much help that way.
[04:14] <Alsryth> orgthingy: can you unplug the your power supply both from the wall and laptop, then blow the dust out with canned air?
[04:14] <Yud_Zroc> kdb424: well do the same thing...my co-college student did it that way
[04:14] <kdb424> Yud_Zroc: But I already have windows installed with boot camp
[04:14] <orgthingy> ok
[04:14]  * orgthingy tries everything
[04:14] <ai3gtmc`brb> what is ping in linux?
[04:14] <ntiy> oing
[04:14] <trimeta> ai3gtmc: ping
[04:14] <ntiy> ping
[04:15] <Yud_Zroc> ping is the relay between the server and ur computer
[04:15] <Blaqlight> ohhh I want some canned air, Ill bet its better than real air.
[04:15] <moneymoney_> hi
[04:15] <arvind_k> !hi | moneymoney
[04:15] <arvind_k> !hi | moneymoney_
[04:15] <ai3gtmc> jeez im getting a "unknown host google.com" error
[04:15] <chalcedony> i don't know how to use torrents, i'm on vista?
[04:15] <ai3gtmc> I cant connect to the internet..
[04:15] <r2d2rogers> Good evening all
[04:15] <icesword> moneymoney_, money, i want it
[04:15] <kdb424> Yud_Zroc: I can't boot into windows, but I have it installed
[04:15] <Blaqlight> ai3gtmc: you don't have an active internet connection.
[04:16] <ai3gtmc> Blaqlight,can you help me fix it?
[04:16] <Yud_Zroc> kdb424: then idk sorry
[04:16] <trimeta> ai3gtmc: Evidently, you can.
[04:16] <moneymoney_> will i have it
[04:16] <kdb424> Yud_Zroc: Thanks anyways
[04:16] <ntiy> kdb424: good 4 u
[04:16] <ai3gtmc> trimeta,how can I fix this?
[04:16] <Alsryth> ai3gtmc: have you tried surfing the to an internet site via IP address instead of URL?
[04:16] <kdb424> ntiy: I can't get windows to boot, because grub launches grub. Any ideas?
[04:16] <r2d2rogers> Gnome Session Time limits: I'd like to limit the time my 4 and 6 year old spend on the computer
[04:16] <arvind_k> chalcedony, get a client like bit-torrent and download the torrent then open that file with the client to download the real file..after you download it burn it to a CD using Nero..
[04:17] <cobber2005> How do I get the flicker to stop after waking up from a suspend in Hardy?
[04:17] <ai3gtmc> Alsryth,doesnt work
[04:17] <mbrigdan> trimeta: hmm, I can't seem to see the option to output a Unix Timestamp, but it might be in there, I miss things a lot, especially since the rather cramped text of the terminal makes my eyes hurt :(
[04:17] <EDocToor> cobber2005,,, sorry about that,, does it keep flickering,,, or does it stop flickering after a while... have you tested your memory.. useing the memory option on boot... and if you reset up your suspend you will or should see tips about where to get help in your case.
[04:17] <ai3gtmc> ifconfig
[04:17] <ai3gtmc> oops
[04:17] <orgthingy> NO!
[04:17] <Alsryth> ai3gtmc: are you working from the computer which cannot connect to the internet?
[04:17] <orgthingy> the charger isnt working :'(
[04:17] <orgthingy> what should I do?!
[04:17] <EDocToor> !NO
[04:17] <trimeta> mbrigdan: %s
[04:17]  * orgthingy is so nervous
[04:17] <ai3gtmc> Alsryth,yes it's on vmware
[04:18] <Blaqlight> mbrigdan: you can change the font of the terminal in Settings > Appearence > Fonts Tab.
[04:18]  * EDocToor where men are men ,,, and sheep are nervous
[04:18] <mbrigdan> trimeta: thanks, I would never have noticed that.
[04:18] <cobber2005> EDocTor: It keeps flickering.  I didn't know I can test my memory on boot, I'll go into the setup menu and try it.  How do I reset up my suspend?
[04:18] <kdb424> no one has ever heard of grub before?
[04:19] <kdb424> grub booting grub. sorry
[04:19] <Saladin> Anyone know where Synaptic installs mySQL?
[04:19] <Blaqlight> grub is good, mm chicken wings, lasagna, mmm
[04:19] <EDocToor> I love my grub
[04:19] <trimeta> kdb424: No, though I'd check that the device it's trying to boot is the right one, and that you're not chainloading grub again, or something.
[04:19] <ntiy> sudo apt-get install mysql
[04:19] <ai3gtmc> Alsryth,ifconfig's eth0 shows nothing about my IP
[04:20] <Blaqlight> ai3gtmc: perhaps its eth1
[04:20] <EDocToor> Cobber2005 Live boot your Ubuntu... and Look for memtest
[04:20] <EDocToor> from the list
[04:20] <ai3gtmc> Blaqlight,it's only eth0 and lo
[04:20] <Saladin> ntiy: I install it using the Synaptic manager, however, I don't know where Synaptic installed the thing!
[04:20] <Blaqlight> ... mine is
[04:20] <kdb424> trimeta: What exactly does chainloading do because I have changed the grub partition number to every other number, and it either did not exist, or it didn't have an OS.
[04:20] <Saladin> Cobber2005: Or, you could press escape on boot up, to being up the grub menu. There is a memtest option there.
[04:20] <ntiy> try "whereis mysql"
[04:21] <trimeta> Saladin: Something like /var/lib/mysql?
[04:21] <scifiguy951> are there any other good keyloggers besides lkl?
[04:21] <Blaqlight> ai3gtmc: if you lspci -v is your card there?
[04:21] <trimeta> kdb424: Maybe you should pastebin your menu.lst?
[04:21] <cobber2005> EDocTor & Saladin:  Many thanks.  Maybe bad memory is making my screen flicker?  I hope it's just that. Thanks.
[04:21] <trimeta> (Don't dump it here, use the pastebin, is what I mean by "pastebin.")
[04:21] <kdb424> trimeta: Can I PM you?
[04:21] <Grackle> Saladin, right click the package in synaptic and click "Properties." There is an "installed files" tab in the properties window.
[04:22] <trimeta> kdb424: I'm not that knowledgeable, frankly; best to keep things here.
[04:22] <kiyiko> any way to set screen refresh rate to an *unsupported* value. i allways have my 1024/768 at 72hz, but its not an option
[04:22] <kdb424> What's pastbin then?
[04:22] <kdb424> pastebin
[04:22] <trimeta> !pastebin
[04:22] <ai3gtmc> Blaqlight,i see ethernet controller
[04:22] <Saladin> Thanks guys... And Trimeta, you got it right.
[04:22] <chalcedony> is the ubuntu download site down?
[04:23] <chalcedony> i have no internet until i fix the router with a new install of hardiy
[04:23] <scifiguy951> are there any other good keyloggers besides lkl?
[04:23] <Harley^> Howdy
[04:23] <mycroftiv> Ubuntu alternate install or rescue mode: There is an option to install GRUB bootloader, but choosing this option sends you to the partitioner. Why?
[04:23] <Blaqlight> ai3gtmc: !repeat | scifiguy951
[04:23] <Harley^> Would someone help me with UbuntuStudio ?
[04:23] <Blaqlight> oops
[04:24] <ai3gtmc> ?
[04:24] <Blaqlight> !repeat | scifiguy951
[04:24] <arvind_khadri> !anyone | Harley^
[04:24] <orgthingy> whats acpitool?
[04:24] <kdb424> file:///boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:24] <kdb424> That's all it would give me
[04:24] <Blaqlight> ai3gtmc: disregard that.
[04:24] <squarebracket> what's the linux equivalent of ipconfig ? i can't remember
[04:24] <ai3gtmc> Blaqlight,ok..
[04:24] <Grackle> $ whatis acpitool
[04:24] <Grackle> acpitool: nothing appropriate.
[04:24] <trimeta> squarebracket: ifconfig
[04:24] <mycroftiv> squarebracket: ifconfig
[04:24] <squarebracket> if!
[04:24] <Grackle> ;)
[04:24] <squarebracket> right
[04:25] <arvind_khadri> squarebracket, ifconfig
[04:25] <squarebracket> thanks
[04:25] <trimeta> kdb424: You can't see the contents of the file?
[04:25]  * EDocToor shell # sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:25] <kdb424> tri
[04:25] <arvind_khadri> EDocToor, it is gksu not sudo
[04:25] <DeeDee> hello all linux newbie and i have some questions i have been googling for a while without answer
[04:25] <kdb424> trimeta: I pasted it in there, and that is what came out
[04:25] <EDocToor> thanks
[04:25] <arvind_khadri> !ask | DeeDee
[04:25] <ai3gtmc> what's the otherway to restart network other thank /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[04:25] <unop> ai3gtmc, you need to setup networking for the vmware guest - http://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_network8.html
[04:26] <Blaqlight> DeeDee: whats your question?
[04:26] <WolVeR> does anyone knows how to get 1280x800 with x3000 intel chip O.o?
[04:26] <unop> ai3gtmc, that is the way to restart networking.
[04:26] <trimeta> ai3gtmc: Umm...unloading and reloading the module for your wireless card?
[04:26] <DeeDee> trying to get my Atheros card to work in ubuntu no such luck
[04:26] <trimeta> WolVeR: It worked out of the box for me.
[04:26] <Harley^> ubotto - OK. Some history. I installed UbuntuStudio previously, It was good. I was happy. Timidity worked. I destroyed jackd in a by setting something wrong. This caused complete destruction.  Maybe not, though. What's wrong with /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[04:27] <Harley^> oh just great I;ve been talking to a bot.
[04:27] <kevinO> when i installed ubuntu u set the partition as /windows
[04:27] <Harley^> more wasted time
[04:27] <WolVeR> well, when i just installed ubuntu, it had 1280x800 but, it was weird, i had the screen with that resolution, but the task bar was on middle of the screen
[04:28] <EDocToor> DeeDee can I PM you?
[04:28] <WolVeR> sorry 4 my english
[04:28] <ai3gtmc> hmm i dunno it's just yesterday this guy gave me a command to restart the network and it worked..
[04:28] <DeeDee> sure go right ahead
[04:28] <WolVeR> i cloned screen, but i can only get 1024x768
[04:28] <ai3gtmc> afaik the comman contains the word "dhcp"?
[04:28] <kdb424> trimeta: Pastebin won't work for me at all
[04:29] <Harley^> Does anyone knowledgable about getting sound and alsa and timidity to work properly pop into the #UbuntuStudio channel ?
[04:29] <rootyrooty> HI, how do I start mysql?
[04:29] <unop> ai3gtmc, dhclient ?
[04:29] <sivik> /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[04:29] <DeeDee> Edoctoor: do i have to do anything to recieve pm's like register or something or just wait for it like in IRC?
[04:29] <ai3gtmc> unop, yeah something like that
[04:29] <unop> ai3gtmc, sudo dhclient eth0
[04:29] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, you need to register
[04:29] <Blaqlight> DeeDee: just wiat
[04:29] <arvind_khadri> !pm | DeeDee
[04:29] <ai3gtmc> yeah that
[04:29] <sivik> maybe /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:30] <ai3gtmc> lemme try that :)
[04:30] <trimeta> kdb424: You copied the content of the file into the larger text box at http://paste.ubuntu.com, hit Paste!, and what happened?
[04:30] <DeeDee> !pm DeeDee
[04:30] <Blaqlight> apparently forever,
[04:30] <DeeDee> let me register one second
[04:30] <ai3gtmc> hmm it doesnt work either now..
[04:30] <kdb424> trimeta: It gave me a ile browser with the link file:///
[04:30] <Guest61927> hi, i was looking at my partitions with gparted and i noticed that there is 4.61MiB in an allocated partition. I duel boot with WinXP and was wondering if it is the Grub or more alarmingly a Rootkit? What do you think? I have tried to delete it and i can't through gparted.
[04:31] <trimeta> kdb424: When you hit the Paste! button? That's rather odd.
[04:31] <abhi_> I am facing problem in rhythmbox in ubuntu8.04. it is always crashing down.. what should i do..
[04:31] <kdb424> trimeta: Yea. That's what happens
[04:31] <trimeta> Guest61927: Did your computer come with a restore partition?
[04:31] <EDocToor> DeeDee, your welcome
[04:32] <sivik> Guest36101, that is more than likey just free space that windows was not going to be able to use or the restore partition
[04:32] <Blaqlight> abhi_: try audacious
[04:32] <Guest61927> restore partition?
[04:32] <abhi_> Blaqlight, : is it gtk+ based
[04:32] <Blaqlight> trimeta: even if it did I doubt 4 MB would hold anything :P
[04:32] <trimeta> Blaqlight: True.
[04:33] <unop> ai3gtmc, have you checked the vmware guest configuration -- you have to ensure that guest has the capability to get on the phycial network. something like this here. http://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_network8.html
[04:33] <amenado> Guest36101-> each partition has to have a filesystem table, dont know if it takes that much 4.61MiB   btw what the heck is Mi ?
[04:33] <Blaqlight> abhi_: I beieve it uses the qt toolkit. I may be wrong though
[04:33] <DeeDee> Hey Anyone here have a Atheros Network card on laptop and got it to work on ubuntu
[04:34] <unop> amenado, mibibytes
[04:34] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, which card..i mean model
[04:34] <rootyrooty> HI, how do I start mysql?
[04:34] <DeeDee> how do i find that out arvind?
[04:34] <trimeta> rootyrooty: /etc/init.d/mysql start, probably.
[04:34] <sivik> rootyrooty, is it installed?
[04:34] <trimeta> Or something fairly similar to that. Also, yea, it needs to be installed first.
[04:34] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, wait a min
[04:34] <DeeDee> ok
[04:35] <rootyrooty> sivik: yes, I am having problems with Amarok, but it is def installed
[04:35] <Guest61927> would the free space be in the windows partition?
[04:35] <rootyrooty> trimeta: thanks, trying
[04:35] <sivik> rootyrooty, do a ps aux | grep mysql and see if its running
[04:35] <spoo1> Is there a way to change ONLY the Application menu icon?
[04:35] <scifiguy951> good keyloggers??
[04:35] <Guest61927> MiB is what gparted calls megabytes i  suppose?
[04:35] <rootyrooty> sivik: 10929  0.0  0.1   3004   768 pts/0    S+   23:35   0:00 grep mysql
[04:35] <whyameye> how can I build a 32 bit app on a 64 bit machine?
[04:35] <trimeta> sivik: pgrep -l mysql (that's a lowercase l) is superior to ps aux|grep mysql, IMO.
[04:35] <sivik> then its not running
[04:35] <Scorp__> arvind_khadri: Hey. which software to use for opening RAR Archives ??
[04:35] <sivik> i have never used pgrep.
[04:36] <rootyrooty> I need to start it then
[04:36] <sivik> Scorp__, unrar
[04:36] <unop> pidof mysql  is much easier
[04:36] <arvind_khadri> Scorp__, you need to get unrar-free and unrar
[04:36] <dude101> hello, i need hoary's universe repo in my apt/sources. what is it?
[04:36] <trimeta> whyameye: I don't know, some sort of chroot craziness?
[04:36] <rootyrooty> trimeta: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:36] <sivik> trimeta, is pgrep debian/ubuntu specific or will be linux wide?
[04:36] <sivik> rootyrooty, that means your install is not working
[04:36] <Scorp__> sivik, arvind_khadri: thanks.
[04:36] <trimeta> sivik: Linux-wide.
[04:36] <Guest61927> would i be able to find out what that unallocated partition is through Windows?
[04:37] <linuxguymarshall> Is there a reason why part of the last youtube video I watched is in my /tmp directory?
[04:37] <Scorp__> sivik, arvind_khadri: thanks.
[04:37] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, run lspci on a terminal
[04:37] <rootyrooty> sivik: Ah. should I reinstall?
[04:37] <dude101> anyone?
[04:37] <arvind_khadri> Scorp__, welcome :)_
[04:37] <spoo1> ??
[04:37] <DeeDee> one sec arving
[04:37] <DeeDee> arvind
[04:37] <trimeta> linuxguymarshall: That's where temporarily-downloaded files go?
[04:37] <sivik> rootyrooty, how did you install mysql the first time?  from source or via apt-get/apatitude
[04:37] <arvind_khadri> !tab | DeeDee
[04:37] <linuxguymarshall> trimeta:But it is only part not all of the file
[04:37] <Blaqlight> linuxguymarshall: maybe your /tmp directory wants to watch it later?
[04:37] <linuxguymarshall> Blaqlight:haha
[04:37] <rootyrooty> sivik: prob synaptic
[04:37] <spoo1> is there a room just for ubuntu themes?
[04:38] <orgthingy> 5 minutes remaining
[04:38] <trimeta> Blaqlight: Maybe it came as a multi-file video, and was seamlessly made to view as one file? Whatever, if you're done watching it you can wipe it.
[04:38] <sivik> rootyrooty, try uninstall and re-installing
[04:38]  * orgthingy is saying buy to his laptop
[04:38] <trimeta> If you're worried about this sort of thing, I think there's a way to automatically clean /tmp on boot.
[04:38] <unop> rootyrooty, how did you restart mysql?
[04:38] <DeeDee> Atheros Communication Ar242x 802.11abg  Wireless PCI Express Adapter rev 01
[04:38] <rootyrooty> sivik: ok. am trying via synaptic
[04:39] <Blaqlight> I don't want the FBI checking out my /tmp folder anymore that I want my mother. they'd both be shocked.
[04:39] <rootyrooty> unop no, haven't yet. it usually launches with mysql
[04:39] <sivik> rootyrooty, ok
[04:39] <arvind_khadri> rootyrooty, are you using sudo or not
[04:39] <rootyrooty> unop no, haven't yet. it usually launches with amarok
[04:39] <unop>  /tmp is cleared on boot
[04:39] <DeeDee> arvind_khadri, Atheros Communication Ar242x 802.11abg  Wireless PCI Express Adapter rev 01
[04:39] <rootyrooty> arvind_khadri: sudo
[04:39] <spoo1> I need Theme oriented help!!!
[04:39] <Alsryth> deedee: this worked for someone else before :  iwconfig ath0 essid your_networks_name
[04:39] <Alsryth> Obviuosly you will subsitute your actual network name (ESSID) for the "your_networks_name" string above.
[04:39] <Harley^> So, do people frequent #UbuntuStudio ?
[04:39] <arvind_khadri> rootyrooty, you using it?
[04:39] <DeeDee> hmm
[04:39] <Blaqlight> spoo1: ask the question
[04:39] <DeeDee> let me try
[04:39] <unop> rootyrooty, err no .. mysql needs root's privs. to be started .. and amarok doesn't normally run under root.
[04:39] <weasy> hey where does apache store it's public folder in ubuntuu?
[04:40] <Blaqlight> spoo1: you wouldn't be here if you didn't need help.
[04:40] <unop> rootyrooty,  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[04:40] <sivik> weasy: by defualt?
[04:40] <DeeDee> no such device ath0
[04:40] <sivik> weasy: you can always look at that apache.conf file and see where it is
[04:40] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, run ifconfig -a
[04:40] <Blaqlight> DeeDee: it eth0
[04:40] <spoo1> Blaqlight: I want to know how to change the Applications menu icon
[04:40] <rootyrooty> unop: The problem is found!:   ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full!
[04:41] <sivik> rootyrooty, nice
[04:41] <aleksander> ver irc.vbox.bg
[04:41] <rootyrooty> unop: my hd is full for some reason, something is malfunctioning and is fillling it up
[04:41] <Blaqlight> spoo1: lemme get a gnome-session going and then Ill see.
[04:41] <DeeDee> arvind_khadri,  i see ethernet and 2 loopbacks no wireless
[04:41] <spoo1> Blaqlight: without changing the rest of my theme
[04:41] <ai3gtmc> im getting a "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping" when I try dhclient
[04:41] <spoo1> Blaqlight: ok just let me know
[04:41] <Brolli> hi all
[04:42] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, hmm ... hang on
[04:42] <orgthingy> bye all
[04:42] <unop> rootyrooty,  you could find the 10 biggest files under /var or perhas /var/lib   du -a /var/lib/* | sort -rn | head -n 10
[04:42] <orgthingy> my laptop is dying like a Mac!
[04:42] <Brolli> is it possible to traverse the cursor around in the terminal without a mouse?
[04:42] <rootyrooty> Hi, how do I clear /var of stuff i don't need
[04:42] <weasy> hey where does apache store it's public folder in ubuntuu?
[04:42] <amenado> ai3gtmc-> thats okay, you dont want a stale lease, you want a new ip address
[04:42] <rootyrooty> unop: am trying!
[04:42] <zv0>  how do I hack with ubuntu?
[04:42] <ai3gtmc> amenado,but I cant connect to the internet, what should i do?
[04:42] <unop> zv0, not in here
[04:42] <orgthingy> 0 minutes remaining
[04:42] <orgthingy> bye all
[04:43] <orgthingy> zv0: noob
[04:43] <orgthingy> what a scriptkiddie
[04:43] <CShadowRun> zv0 you can't learn to hack, you can only hack to learn.
[04:43] <amenado> weasy-> look inside the /etc/apache2/*.conf  for where that folder is mentioned?
[04:43] <flaco> Anyone no how to adjust the sound quality in ubuntu?.
[04:43] <CShadowRun> and yes, zv0...you sir, are a retard.
[04:43] <amenado> ai3gtmc-> do you have a working dhcp server?
[04:43] <ai3gtmc> yes
[04:43] <lakcaj> zv0, start hacking the IP <IP_ADDRESS>, that idiot always leaves his box wide open
[04:43] <flaco> for example: the bass
[04:43] <unop> CShadowRun, no need for that
[04:43] <rootyrooty> unop: I don't understand the output. It just lists directories
[04:43] <zv0> funny thing is,, what I have on my other terminal :D
[04:43] <Blaqlight> unop: I can't seem to get fbsetbg to work, I want this background as my wallpaper but it won't set it.
[04:43] <hvgotcodes> hey can someone recommend a notebook cooler?
[04:44] <ai3gtmc> wait brb
[04:44] <rootyrooty> unop: do I delete the 10 biggest files?
[04:44] <DeeDee> So arvind_khadri  any ideaS?
[04:44] <unop> rootyrooty, well, that there just lists the 10 biggest, it's upto you to decide whether or not they are needed
[04:44] <Blaqlight> spoo1: I don't think so,
[04:44] <Brolli> is it possible to select the output of a command without having to pipe it into something else?
[04:45] <unop> Blaqlight, how are you using fbsetbg there?
[04:45] <unop> Brolli, and do what with the output ?
[04:45] <Blaqlight> as far as I know when the program is installed the app includes a png that is used system wide.
[04:45] <Brolli> to paste somewhere
[04:45] <sivik> Brolli, yes
[04:45] <Blaqlight> in fluxconf
[04:45] <Brolli> without using mouse
[04:45] <flaco> anyone know how to change bass output from ubuntu?
[04:45] <sivik> Yes
[04:46] <rootyrooty> unop: will I destroy my system if I delete, say the gconf files? I think that they're the culprit
[04:46] <sivik> Brolli, yes
[04:46] <DeeDee> so does anyone have any ideas about my Atheros issue
[04:46] <sivik> grep blah /folder/to/file
[04:46] <Scott_Johnstone> Hey folks - I'd like a bit of guidance if possible
[04:46] <sivik> Scott_Johnstone, just ask the question
[04:46] <Scott_Johnstone> you bet
[04:46] <Brolli> sivik: thanks
[04:46] <sivik> Brolli, yw
[04:47] <Scott_Johnstone> I've created a folder within my ~ dir called /.link/
[04:47] <Brolli> also, is there a copy/paste buffer in ubuntu that i could pipe output into
[04:47] <sivik> Scott_Johnstone, ok, that means its hidden
[04:47] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, sorry no help here
[04:47] <arvind_khadri> DeeDee, :S
[04:47] <flaco> anyone know how to change bass output from ubuntu?
[04:47] <unop> Brolli, you can pipe to xclip - but xclip needs to be installed additionally
[04:47] <DeeDee> its ok
[04:47] <Scott_Johnstone> I'd like to map that folder so i can put links in there and open them by just typing the name of the link into the ALT+F2 run dialog
[04:47] <DeeDee> google is my friend
[04:48] <Alsryth> hvgotcodes: I use the ZM-MC1000 but i suggest you read the reviews and see which would work best for you
[04:48] <unop> rootyrooty, you might lose user configuration if you delete those directories
[04:48] <Scott_Johnstone> so instead of having to type ~/.link/oow to launch my open office writer, I can just type oow
[04:48] <Brolli> unop: thanks
[04:48] <trimeta> Scott_Johnstone: You'd probably want to add that directory to your PATH.
[04:49] <Scott_Johnstone> trimeta: yeah that's what I'd do in windows
[04:49] <sivik> Scott_Johnstone, sym link it into the /usr/bin or /bin folder and give it the right permissiosn
[04:49] <spoo1> Blaqlight: what do people use to combine themes? I'll try to just pull the one I want out of the other theme and put it in to the theme that I like... will that not work?
[04:49] <Scott_Johnstone> I just don't know how to add something to the path env.variable
[04:49] <amenado> DeeDee do you have a  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/madwifi/  dir?
[04:49] <rootyrooty> unop: Not sure what you mean. If I delete it and reboot, will I be screwed, or just left with a large amount of user config to do, as opposed to a non-booting box?
[04:49] <spoo1> Blaqlight: or is it easier said then done?
[04:49] <Scott_Johnstone> sivik: how do I simlink something?
[04:49] <trimeta> I'm not sure how to do that consistently for the alt+F2 dialog, though I know you can do "PATH="$PATH:/path/to/dir" in your .bashrc file for interactive shells.
[04:49] <Scott_Johnstone> err sym link
[04:49] <sivik> ln -s filename path/to/file
[04:49] <unop> rootyrooty, which gconf directories/files are you referring to?
[04:50] <ZoiX> How turn off a PC with Ubuntu from another PC with Ubuntu too?
[04:50] <unop> trimeta, put it in ~/.bash_profile and log back in
[04:50] <sivik> ZoiX ssh in and shutdown -h now
[04:50] <trimeta> ZoiX: Can you ssh into the remote machine?
[04:50] <amenado> Zoix you can use ssh to issue a remote command
[04:50] <Scott_Johnstone> sivik: hmm thanks I"ll try that :)
[04:50] <Blaqlight> spoo1: im sure anything is possible not sure how to do it though, themes in gnome and kde don't normally include the icons also.
[04:50] <rootyrooty> /var/lib/gconf
[04:50] <rootyrooty> 63744	/var/lib/gconf/defaults
[04:50] <rootyrooty> unop: 63744	/var/lib/gconf/defaults
[04:50] <unop> Blaqlight, how are you using fbsetbg there?
[04:50] <Blaqlight> Im using it in fluxconf
[04:51] <rootyrooty> unop: and /var/lib/gconf
[04:51] <E|Tomas-> are there firewall in ubuntu?
[04:51] <unop> rootbox, that's about 63M --- that's not much -- i would look at something else
[04:52] <ZoiX> sivik, trimeta, amenado, thanks
[04:52] <unop> Blaqlight, not sure then - have you verified that fbsetbg works normally at the command line?
[04:52] <ZoiX> sivik, trimea, amenado: ssh is install now in two machines
[04:52] <Blaqlight> unop: Im actually trying to set it in startup. sorry
[04:53] <spoo1> Blaqlight: I've seen some with a black looking ubuntu icon and some with the Gnome foot as the Appl. menu Icon.....
[04:53] <unop> Blaqlight, well, that doesn't answer my question? :)
[04:53] <trimeta> OK, problem with using prevu to allow me to grab new packages from Intrepid: I want both package A and package B; B depends on the newer A. (In particular, A is libotr and B is pidgin-otr). How do I make prevu compile against a version it itself created?
[04:54] <unop> trimeta, are you on hardy at present?
[04:54] <trimeta> unop: That is correct.
[04:54] <Blaqlight> unop: no I haven't
[04:54] <Freshy> if i use wine is it possible to get windows virii?
[04:54] <unop> trimeta, backport the intrepid packages (and their new and required dependencies)
[04:55] <ZoiX> sivik: can you help me?
[04:55] <trimeta> unop: I did that, and I've even installed the new libotr. I'm still getting an error while compiling pidgin-otr complaining about libotr's version.
[04:55] <sivik> ssh -l username hostname
[04:55] <E|Tomas-> are there firewall in ubuntu? if! How do i remove it?
[04:55] <sivik> username is the username you are connecting with and hostname is the server ip or hostname to connect to
[04:55] <Entropy51423> What can be determined based on the output of Wireshark?
[04:55] <ZoiX> sivik: right, let me see
[04:55] <sivik> E|Tomas-, iptables
[04:56] <Entropy51423> If you have any answers pleas IM me
[04:56] <trimeta> Freshy: In short, yes; the virus would probably have to be coded to take advantage of Wine, but that could actually occur. But still, you'd have to actively choose to run the virus with Wine; if you're careful about when you use it, you shouldn't have a problem.
[04:56] <sivik> E|Tomas-, /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[04:56] <trimeta> (Unless you've set your system to automatically run Windows executable with Wine...I'm not sure if the default install does that...)
[04:56] <unop> trimeta, how exactly did you backport libotr?
[04:56] <E|Tomas-> bash: /etc/init.d/iptables:
[04:56] <Blaqlight> unop: next question where are the wallpapers for gnome usually stored.
[04:57] <linuxguymarshall> I am trying to compile some source and I need the following files : SDL.h , SDL_image.h , SDL_opengl.h , GL/glext.h   . Where can I find and how can I install these
[04:57] <unop> Blaqlight, /usr/share/{wallpapers,backgrounds}
[04:57] <Blaqlight> unop: the ones that show up in the "change wallpaper" dialog
[04:57] <sivik> E|Tomas-, yes, from a cli prompt (bash, sh, or any one of the others)
[04:57] <trimeta> unop: prevu libotr && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (all sudo'ed, of course.)
[04:57] <__yy_> linuxguymarshall: you need opengl and SDL development packages, search for them in synaptic
[04:57] <Entropy51423> type SDL.h etc...
[04:57] <Entropy51423> in bash
[04:58] <Entropy51423> it should give the command to install it using apt
[04:58] <linuxguymarshall> I have tried synaptic. No luck
[04:58] <Freshy> are you able to enable and disable wine?
[04:58] <bunz> linuxguymarshall: apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[04:58] <E|Tomas-> sivik: it dont works
[04:58] <Entropy51423> it is called libSDL1.2
[04:58] <bunz> dunno about the gl include file
[04:58] <sivik> E|Tomas-, what do you mean it doesn't work?
[04:58] <Entropy51423> Something along those lines
[04:58] <linuxguymarshall> bunz: Thank you
[04:58] <E|Tomas-> dont find the file
[04:58] <trimeta> unop: Though...I'm not sure that's actually getting me the Intrepid sources...hold on...
[04:58] <Yud_Zroc> is there an os bashing chaneel someone can tell me about
[04:59] <Entropy51423> You need the libraries that go with them
[04:59] <unop> trimeta, i'm not sure that's how prevu works -- you might need prevu-update after  prevu libotr
[04:59] <sivik> locate iptables | grep /etc/init.d
[04:59] <rootyrooty> unop: do you have an answer /poilitely asking
[04:59] <Entropy51423> Does anyone know what can be determined by the output of Wireshark?
[04:59] <trimeta> unop: I'll look into it.
[05:00] <E|Tomas-> sivik: ye?
[05:00] <__yy_> Entropy51423: there is a great deal of active research into the answer to that question
[05:00] <snaga> cakephp
[05:00] <unop> trimeta, i prefer the older traditional way of backporting i.e.  apt-get source -t intrepid -b libotr  # after making sure you have the intrepid deb-src's
[05:00] <unop> rootbox, sorry, what was your question again?
[05:00] <Entropy51423> _yy_ can you give me either a link or a search query for Google?
[05:01] <amirman> does anyone know how to run a game in a separate x session in ubuntu? it's easier with other distros but ubuntu seems to lock down the x authorizations and store them in /tmp which makes it a lengthy process that has to be repeated each boot, (this feature has actually saved my butt before when i locked myself out of having any x authorizations) but i was wondering if anybody here knew of good safe way to make this possible with ubuntu
[05:01] <trimeta> unop: I'll see if that's easier.
[05:02] <Blaqlight> unop: there must be some other place because the wallpaper I have in gnome is not in that list
[05:02] <unop> trimeta, actually - see the very last section here on circular dependencies - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu
[05:02] <g0tcha> hey guys, is this correct to open port 6885: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6885 -j ACCEPT
[05:02] <trimeta> unop: Oh, yea, that's probably it. Good call.
[05:02] <unop> Blaqlight, note, that is two directories there. have you looked in both?
[05:02] <__yy_> Entropy51423: look for reasearch on wireless networking and security, http://arxiv.org/ is a good place to start
[05:03] <unop> Blaqlight, maybe /usr/share/pixmaps too ? though i doubt it
[05:03] <Blaqlight> unop: the other does not exist in that directory.
[05:03] <ZoiX> sivik: thanks for your help :)
[05:03] <Entropy51423> Thanks
[05:03] <unop> Blaqlight,  hmm, not sure -- time to launch your gnome-session :)
[05:04] <Blaqlight> unop: I did find a directory of backgrounds in pixmaps.
[05:05] <Blaqlight> unop: those aren't it and I never knew they were there, nor did gnome for that matter.
[05:05] <w1ll> I'm trying to install apache2 and I'm gettin 404 errors when I type apt-get install apache2. I'm running hardy
[05:05] <w1ll> =\
[05:06] <unop> Blaqlight, if you know the name of a wallpaper that exists somewhere on the filesystem. you can use locate to find out where exactly it is
[05:06] <Blaqlight> unop: omg Im ...
[05:07] <unop> Blaqlight,  ??
[05:07] <Grackle> will, sounds like your package list is out of date. Try an apt-get update first
[05:07] <amirman> is there a channel for X issues in ubuntu?
[05:07] <w1ll> Grackle thank you I'll try that
[05:07] <unop> amirman, usually this is it.
[05:07] <trimeta> unop: Cool, everything worked.
[05:07] <w1ll> Grackle thank you!
[05:07] <w1ll> =)
[05:08] <Grackle> np willl
[05:08] <unop> trimeta, nice
[05:08] <Grackle> er, w1ll
[05:08] <w4ett> what's your questions amirman ?
[05:08] <Kristopher> so i booted ubuntu from the live cd... but i just get a command line. can i get a gui interface with the live cd, without installing? it seems that installing requires an additional 600mb download :/
[05:08] <amirman> w4ett: "does anyone know how to run a game in a separate x session in ubuntu? it's easier with other distros but ubuntu seems to lock down the x authorizations and store them in /tmp which makes it a lengthy process that has to be repeated each boot, (this feature has actually saved my butt before when i locked myself out of having any x authorizations) but i was wondering if anybody here knew of good safe way to make this possible with ubuntu"
[05:08] <Scorp__> guys, is the synaptic package manager downloading too slow even for someone else out here ??? Its giving just half the speed i usually get.
[05:08] <E|Tomas-> sivik: i cant stop it O.o
[05:09] <trimeta> Scorp__: It did seem a bit slow for me tonight.
[05:09] <E|Tomas-> Bad argument `stop'
[05:09] <E|Tomas-> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[05:09] <sivik> read man ipteables
[05:09] <Scorp__> trimeta: Could there be a solution to it ?? I;m using the Main Servre since the Local server is even slower than that.
[05:09] <crimsun_> amirman: see xauth.
[05:10] <unop> amirman, how do you usually start the other sessions?
[05:10] <trimeta> Scorp__: Not much one can do if the servers are slow, unfortunately.
[05:10] <amirman> crimsun_: i've looked at xauth - that's how i found out the x authorizations are stored in /tmp
[05:10] <Scorp__> trimeta: oh ya, sorry for that stupid question...
[05:10] <crimsun_> amirman: then you probably know about extract and merge, yes?
[05:11] <amirman> unop: i haven't started any successfully on ubuntu, let me find the script i was using
[05:11] <amirman> crimsun_: :( no
[05:11] <Blaqlight> unop: I found the folder... it was on my desktop. also alot of the gnome wallpapers are in /usr/share/images also :D
[05:11] <unop> amirman, you can make your own set of autorization files that xauth can use - perhaps that's something you could look into
[05:11] <unop> Blaqlight, cool - shows how much i know about gnome.
[05:11] <amirman> unop: you know where i can find some newbie friendly documentation on it? or what i can search for?
[05:12] <unop> amirman, the xauth manpage is quite straight forward
[05:12] <Grackle> Scorp__, don't use the main server. Let synaptic choose the fastest one for you. Open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, Open the "Download From" menu and select "Other..." then hit "choose best server"
[05:12] <Bull3TNURF8c3> blah
[05:12] <Harley^> How would I get sound to work under firefox listening to a radio channel ?
[05:12] <g0tcha> hey guys, is this correct to open port 6885: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6885 -j ACCEPT ?
[05:13] <Alsryth> update manager question - if I use it to update from gutsy to hardy, will there be adverse effects to my system?  i.e.) drivers, directories, data loss etc...
[05:13] <amirman> unop: here's the script i was using http://pastebin.com/f50f9c3a7
[05:13] <crimsun_> g0tcha: by using libflashsupport or upgrading to newer alsa-lib, alsa-plugins, and flashplugin-nonfree
[05:13] <riegersn> at work on our windows boxes i can connect to another pc\shared with \\pcname\path
[05:13] <riegersn> can i do this in ubuntu?
[05:13] <Grackle> Alsryth, it shouldn't break anything unless you've heavily modified stuff.
[05:14] <g0tcha> what are you talking about?
[05:14] <Bull3TNURF8c3> anyone know of a real good linux distro that will run on a PC Chips M810LMR Duron 800D Processor with about 665MB of Ram?
[05:14] <Harley^> Are there basic troubleshooting guides for midi and audio  written in simple clear English
[05:14] <Alsryth> grackle: thanks, again :)
[05:14] <wols_> Bull3TNURF8c3: ubuntu
[05:14] <Bull3TNURF8c3> Really!
[05:14] <Grackle> np Alsryth
[05:14] <crimsun_> g0tcha: the solutions to your issue.
[05:14] <wols_> Bull3TNURF8c3: look where you are...
[05:14] <crimsun_> g0tcha: details in #ubuntu-audio-help if you want.
[05:15] <g0tcha> crimsun_, you mean the other dude heheh
[05:15] <g0tcha> i was asking about the iptables
[05:15] <g0tcha> if this is right sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6885 -j ACCEPT
[05:15] <Kattman> Ubuntu live cd is is installing the cd rom is Bang like crazy!   Normal ?
[05:15] <crimsun_> Harley^: #ubuntu-audio-help
[05:15] <Bull3TNURF8c3> well, I would like to run ubuntu on it, but it will eat up my ram?
[05:15] <crimsun_> g0tcha: right, that works.
[05:15] <Kattman> banging
[05:15] <wols_> Bull3TNURF8c3: what do you mean "eat up my ram"?
[05:16] <Bull3TNURF8c3> I need something thats a little less on ram
[05:16] <kindofabuzz> Bull3TNURF8c3: Xubuntu will run great
[05:16] <Grackle> Bubble, you'll want at least 512MB of RAM to run comfortably
[05:16] <g0tcha> crimsun_, then if i telnet to this port is should work fine?
[05:16] <wols_> 600MB is fine for ubuntu but you can run xubuntu instead
[05:16] <Yud_Zroc> i have had Xubuntu funning nice with 128mb ram
[05:16] <wols_> g0tcha: if something is actually listening there
[05:17] <g0tcha> netstat -an | grep "LISTEN "
[05:17] <g0tcha> is showing this:
[05:17] <Bull3TNURF8c3> I will give ubuntu and xubuntu a try, and see the performance difference
[05:17] <Blaqlight> unop: ok fbsetbg works for a second, then it seems this theme overwrites it.
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> I run Ubuntu fine with 768M
[05:17] <g0tcha> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:6885      <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[05:17] <g0tcha> wols_, so it should work?
[05:18] <Blaqlight> unop: and then Im back to the same old boring wallpaper
[05:18] <Bull3TNURF8c3> Yud_Zroc: with 128mb of ram are you also running beryl and compiz on it
[05:18] <wols_> g0tcha: IF you connect from <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[05:18] <Grackle> :P Bull3TNURF8c3. Linux is not magic. You need a reasonable amount of RAM to run a modern OS with fancy features.
[05:18] <Harley^> crimsun_: Amusing 3 users
[05:19] <g0tcha> wols_, yeah, exactly, locally... when i telnet to this port it just doesnt do anything
[05:19] <Yud_Zroc> Bull3TNURF8c3: no....the computer it is on is for my linux conversion computer used to make windows people puke at the site of windows
[05:19] <wols_> !doesn't work
[05:19] <unop> Blaqlight, see how you can use the overlay file to override theme specifics
[05:19] <g0tcha> so its not an iptables problem?
[05:19] <unop> amirman, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-X-Apps-6.html
[05:19] <Kristopher> so i booted ubuntu from the live cd... but i just get a command line. can i get a gui interface with the live cd, without installing? it seems that installing requires an additional 600mb download :/
[05:19] <wols_> g0tcha: if you couldn't connect you'd get a "connection refused" immediately
[05:19] <Blaqlight> unop: do you have a site or command so that I can read up on it?
[05:19] <amirman> unop: thanks! i was just about to tell you how confusing these man pages are
[05:19] <wols_> Kristopher: the normal Live CD gives a GUI yes
[05:19] <Mr_Bad_News> is there a fix for flash in firefox
[05:19] <g0tcha> wols_, im using putty to telnet to it and its not giving me connection refused, it just stays there in black
[05:20] <wols_> g0tcha: need more info
[05:20] <Mr_Bad_News> its laggy causes ff to crash and freeze and everytime i open a tab it stops
[05:20] <Bull3TNURF8c3> okay thanks all!
[05:20] <Yud_Zroc> g0tcha u need a 3erd party cliant
, but how do i start it? initramfs / busybox started and i'm not sure what to do next
[05:20] <wols_> Kristopher: then you have a problem. busybox only cmes when there are errors. it prints out those errors
[05:20] <g0tcha> wols_, this is basicly it, it just doesnt do anything when i telnet, putty stays black without bringing anything up
[05:20] <g0tcha> Yud_Zroc, third party client for what?
[05:21] <Yud_Zroc> telnet
[05:21] <wols_> g0tcha: not enough data to make a suggestion
[05:21] <Grackle> g0tcha, why are you trying to run a telnet server on ubuntu?
[05:21] <g0tcha> im trying to telnet to an eggdrop that supposed to b running on ubuntu upstairs
[05:21] <g0tcha> Grackle, not a telnet server
[05:21] <wols_> g0tcha: putty is NOT a telnet client btw
[05:21] <g0tcha> unless i need to install a telnet server to telnet to an eggdrop?
[05:22] <wols_> g0tcha: use an actual telnet client
[05:22] <g0tcha> wols_, well, it does telnet fine with other machines
[05:22] <g0tcha> like what?
[05:22] <Grackle> Oh, haha, I did not notice that you said putty. Yeah, putty is not a telnet client. :P
[05:22] <wols_> telnet!
[05:22] <Grackle> yes, telnet, from a command prompt
, there are no error messages :/    "busybox v1.1.8 (debian 1:1.1.8-5ubuntu12) buuilt-in shell (ash)"
[05:24] <g0tcha> i dont see what the problem with putty is, but i did telnet before to ubuntu using it
[05:24] <unop> Blaqlight, have you checked the fluxbox wiki?
[05:24] <g0tcha> just not on this fresh installed one
[05:24] <wols_> Kristopher: there are before that prompt
[05:24] <Grackle> g0tcha, you ssh'd to ubuntu with putty
[05:24] <wols_> Kristopher: what hdd controller?
[05:24] <riegersn> at work on our windows boxes i can connect to another pc\shared with \\pcname\path
[05:24] <riegersn> can i do this in ubuntu?
[05:24] <unop> g0tcha, you probably thought you telnetted to ubuntu - but used ssh inadvertently
[05:24] <g0tcha> Grackle, i dont know much, but i think i know the difference between the two :p
[05:25] <wols_> riegersn: yes
, not sure.. it's 30gb/ntfs though
[05:25] <unop> g0tcha, telnet does not do ssh - and why the hell are you using telnet anyway?
[05:25] <g0tcha> hmm
[05:25] <wols_> Kristopher: it's not. a filesystem is no hdd contrller
[05:25] <Blaqlight> unop: nope not until just now.
[05:25] <wols_> unop: cause eggies don't have sshds....
[05:25] <g0tcha> right, what wols_ said
[05:25] <riegersn> wols_, i have 2 ubuntu 8.04 machines wired in on the same router. one pc is named justice the other freedom, how can i accomplish this?
[05:26] <unop> wols_, eggies ought to be quartered and shot then
[05:26] <alexjb> i have an nvidia 7800gt 256mg gpu, how do i get the drivers and such?
[05:26] <wols_> unop: if you have no clue what you talk about: be quiet. k?
[05:26] <wols_> !nvidia | alexjb
[05:26] <alexjb> thanks
[05:26] <Kristopher> well this is ridiculous if ubuntu won't run on the first 2 computers i try >.< it's good enough for windows...
[05:26] <Grackle> alexanderwz, System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[05:27] <daniele> bradley
[05:27] <unop> wols_, yessir
[05:27] <Mr_Bad_News> can someone pastebin me there bashrc default
[05:27] <g0tcha> wols_, you ever run an eggdrop before?
[05:27] <Grackle> Kristopher, is your install media good?
[05:27] <Mr_Bad_News> i accidentally replaced mine
[05:27] <wols_> Mr_Bad_News: cat /etc/skel/.bashrc
[05:27] <wols_> g0tcha: no. I'm still sane. sorta
, should be; it's a new cd
[05:28] <daniele> photon
[05:28] <g0tcha> do you have a better way of logging a channel for stats?
[05:28] <daniele> controlla
[05:28] <Mr_Bad_News> thanks wols_
[05:28] <daniele> suggerisci
[05:28] <daniele> e distruggi
[05:28] <daniele> pezzidi merda
, fwiw, i did the 'disc at once' option
[05:28] <FloodBot2> daniele: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <wols_> !it | daniele
[05:28] <daniele> vi dite da soli che siete matti
[05:28] <Grackle> Kristopher, when the CD boot menu loads, there is an option to verify the cd. You should try that.
[05:29] <Kristopher> how do i turn the computer off from busybox? ??
[05:29] <unop> Kristopher, the three finger salute
[05:29] <wols_> Kristopher: computer have a nice button on the case in general
[05:30] <unop> Kristopher, ctrl+alt+del
[05:30] <Grackle> Kristopher, ctrl-alt-delete perhaps, or just hold down the power button until it shuts off. Your filesystems aren't mounted, so you won't hurt anything.
[05:30] <Kristopher> thanks
, the power button wasn't doing anything, and this is a laptop, so i would have to remove the battery ;)
[05:30] <Grackle> Kristopher, even when you held it down for several seconds?
[05:31] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know how to enable textured video output on xf86-video-intel cards?
[05:31] <Grackle> Textured video?
 ...oh, i am not that patient :P in windows i don't need to hold it down :P
[05:31] <Grackle> Kristopher, when things are broken you do.
[05:31] <wols_> EruditeHermit: do you mean direct rendering?
[05:32] <Grackle> Holding the power button down will force the computer to shut off no matter what it's doing, even if it's crashed.
[05:32] <konkel> iptables wont stop so i remove it...
[05:32] <EruditeHermit> Grackle, as opposed to Xv overlay
[05:32] <wols_> komputes_: huh?
[05:32] <Saladin> How do you assign a specific sound card over another?
[05:32] <wols_> E|Tomas--: huh?
[05:32] <komputes_> wols_: huh?
[05:33] <E|Tomas--> wols_: ye
[05:33] <Kristopher> just because it's 10 years old, the lcd connection/ hinge is half broken, the jog dial doesn't have drivers and the hdd might have a bad sector does *not* mean my power button is broken :)
[05:33] <wols_> komputes_: E|Tomas-- suddenly changed his nick
[05:33] <wols_> E|Tomas--: you make no sense
[05:34] <E|Tomas--> i wont to remove my fucking firewall'
[05:34] <wols_> E|Tomas--: removing iptables is not the way to do it
[05:34] <wols_> !language
[05:34] <choudesh> !language | E|Tomas--
[05:34] <harpreet_> E|Tomas- can you change ur name if u wish.....because its hard to type
[05:34] <riegersn> wols_, i have 2 ubuntu 8.04 machines wired in on the same router. one pc is named justice the other freedom, how can i accomplish this?
[05:35] <harpreet_> E|Tomas- what firewall are you talking about?
[05:35] <E|Tomas--> harpreet_: in ubuntu
[05:35] <Saladin> How do you assign a specific sound card over another?
[05:35] <Kristopher> ok, there was an i/o error reading the cd.. and a hex number is printed at the top left. what should i do?
[05:35] <wols_> E|Tomas--: iptables -L
[05:35] <wols_> Kristopher: re burn
[05:35] <E|Tomas--> wols_: i dont have iptables
[05:35] <Mr_Bad_News> is there a way to get a visual download like the flash pluging installer?
[05:35] <wols_> E|Tomas--: wrong
[05:35] <harpreet_> E|Tomas- can you be specific? is this internet firewall, intranet or wat?
[05:35] <Mr_Bad_News> with the scrolling command line
[05:36] <harpreet_> !Firewall E|Etomas
, but it was a new cd and i limited the burn speed to 8x .. why should there be an error?
[05:36] <wols_> Kristopher: how should we know? but there apparently is
[05:36] <Saladin> I have two sound cards in my machine - on board and PCI... the default is the on board sound, but that is broken. How can I make Ubuntu use the PCI one?
[05:36] <E|Tomas--> ...
[05:37] <Grackle> Kristopher, you'll have to find different media or a different machine to burn it. Or.. You might be able to install from USB. Do you have a 1GB or larger USB stick?
[05:37] <xhadow> hello i got a problem with my wireless card, in windows i could connect to my wireless network i both floor of my house, now that ive changed to linux when i go to another floor of my house my pc in linux cannot reach the modem cause the signal of the modem is at 50% but i cannot connect it is like it were a very low signal(in windows i could connect) how can i aimplify my Laptop wireless strength?
[05:37] <Ahadiel> Saladin, Go into your bios and disable your onboard sound.
, yes i do
[05:37] <Saladin> Thank you, Ahadiel
[05:38] <Ahadiel> Saladin, From your response I assume you know how to get there?
[05:38] <Kristopher> but i don't want to install it; i just want to run it, ie to test/compile programs in linux
[05:38] <chalcedony> i'm *trying* to make a hardy cd on this vista laptop (i don't know windows) it's saying i want to open ir045_uniclde.exe which is an Application from http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net ???
[05:38] <Grackle> Kristopher, get unetbootin (just google), and use it to make a bootable USB installer. It's pretty easy to use. Just format the USB drive before you run unetbootin
[05:38] <Saladin> Yep.
[05:38] <Ahadiel> Saladin, k
[05:38] <unop> Mr_Bad_News, see the wget manpage on the --progress option
[05:38] <Kristopher> should i do 'disc at once' or 'track at once' if i try another burn?
[05:38] <aarcane> okay, nm-applet shows networks, but when I select them, it completely drops the ball in trying to connect.
[05:38] <Adman65> So, i got a fresh install of hardy, no sound
[05:38] <Grackle> Kristopher, oh right, you don't want to install. Well, unetbootin will still work it.
[05:39] <Adman65> intel ich5, everything appears to be set
[05:39] <riegersn> wols_, can you point me into the right direction?
[05:39] <aarcane> fortunately, I have a nearby un-encrypted network I was able to connect to, but how can I make nm-applet connect to networks properly again?
[05:39] <Grackle> Kristopher, I dunno. I haven't used cdrecord for a long time.
[05:39] <Mr_Bad_News> i mean a gtk app UnFred
[05:39] <chalcedony> Adman65 problems with Alsa?
[05:39] <aarcane> whenever I start gnome it gives me an error, unable to start hal or whatever, but starting it manually fixes it.  it's not listed in the services applet, and may be related..
[05:39] <spoo1> Where does Ubuntu save the custom themes that a user makes?
[05:39] <Adman65> or pluse
[05:39] <Adman65> i donno
[05:40] <Adman65> i've tried both
[05:40] <Grackle> spoo1, probably somewhere in .gnome2
[05:40] <Adman65> setting playback to Alsa, or the card itself
[05:40] <chalcedony> Adman65 did you try in #Alsa ? the good guys might not be on now but they will be sometime
[05:40] <wbmj> spool: ./themes in user's home
[05:40] <spoo1> Grackle: where?
[05:40] <harpreet_> chalcedony: on vista u need to burn the cd
[05:40] <Blaqlight> unop: Ive tried what they suggest on the website to change the background its not working. something is overriding my override.
[05:41] <spoo1> Grackle: I'm sorry I don't know what you mean by .gnome2
[05:41] <wbmj> spool: ./themes in user's home
[05:41] <Kristopher> i guess i wil try burning on another com[puter/program
[05:41] <chalcedony> harpreet_ yes. do i not need that file? i had to get something to let me burn the iso and something else to work on that..
[05:41] <Grackle> Kristopher, I would try the USB method if I were you.
[05:42] <aarcane_> hrrm, that's odd
[05:42] <harpreet_> chalcedony: unfortunately you will have to download a third party trial software or something else so you could burn iso images otherwise this cannot be done in microsoft windows
[05:42] <spoo1> wbmj: you mean /usr/share/themes?
, i use this flash drive frequently :/
[05:42] <Blaqlight> unop: oh nevermind, it worked. I just typed the command into the terminal.
[05:42] <aarcane_> issuing sudo /etc/init.d/dbus stop; sleep 5; sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start; makes it work fine..
[05:42] <Adman65> hmm
[05:42] <aarcane_> but why is dbus failing to start the first time ubuntu comes up ?
[05:42] <Grackle> Kristopher, oh, I guess that would make things difficult.
[05:43] <Ahadiel> chalcedony, Look into "imgburn" for windows, it's freeware and works great.
[05:43] <Grackle> Kristopher, well good luck with burning on a different machine.
[05:43] <wbmj> spool: no....open nautilus...then ctl-h...you will see the folder .themes
[05:43] <E|Tomas--> :(
[05:43] <Kristopher> yeah :/
[05:43] <spoo1> wbmj: I just did that right before you said that lol
[05:44] <Grackle> Kristopher, it is possible that the machine you used to burn it works fine. It could be the cd image itself is corrupted.. You can check the md5sum of the file against the md5sum on the server
[05:44] <spoo1> thank you very much
[05:44] <spoo1> wbmj:  +1
[05:44] <wbmj> spool: no problem
[05:44] <spoo1> :)
[05:44] <amirman> chalcedony: if you use XP the best lightest most stable software for burning ISOs is this: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:44] <unop> Mr_Bad_News, what do you need this progress bar thing for?
[05:44] <Grackle> Kristopher, I had a cd burner that absolutely refused to make bootable cds, so I'd say it's entirely possible that yours has the same problem.
[05:45] <Grackle> amirman +1
[05:45] <Mr_Bad_News> just want it
[05:45] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone use awesome?
[05:45] <Ahadiel> Mr_Bad_News, What do you want to know?
[05:45] <Ahadiel> I've used it briefly.
[05:45] <unop> Mr_Bad_News, well, you could fashion one with zenity if you are using it in a script of some kind
[05:45] <SimplyJohnny> how to get it looking nice
[05:45] <SimplyJohnny> as of right now i cant resize or move windows
[05:46] <LSD|Ninja> Isn't that the point?
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> i have an orange screen with a tiny titlebar
[05:46] <unop> SimplyJohnny,  for i in {0..10}; do sleep 0.2; echo $((i*10)); done | zenity --progress --auto-close
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> no
[05:46] <Adman65> hmm
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> where unop ?
[05:46] <Ahadiel> SimplyJohnny, Have a look through the docs for awesome.
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> nautilus scripts?
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> i have AHA
[05:46] <SimplyJohnny> so far no help
[05:47] <blakencat> recently installed ubuntu and notice that my tv tuner card isn't recognized..any help on how to get the system to see the api tv wonder?
[05:47] <unop> SimplyJohnny, i'm not sure what you want and you aren't being specific - so ...
[05:47] <spoo1> I love Ubuntu!!! I just now accidentally figured out that you can change your short-cut keys on the fly
[05:47] <SimplyJohnny> where do i put the script unop
[05:47] <spoo1> thats so cool and userfiendly :D
[05:47] <unop> SimplyJohnny, errm, anywhere you like
[05:48] <uriel_> hello i need some help replacing the ubuntu startup sounds i change my seleced sound that i made and converted it into a Wav file but it wont play anybody have any ideas on why this doesnt work? please help
[05:48] <Adman65> recommended i dont' use pluse audio?
[05:48] <chalcedony> InfraRecorder could not detect one of your drives, find the correct letter below??? I want to burn a cd of hardy.
[05:48] <chalcedony> i'm on a vista laptop
[05:48] <amirman> chalcedony: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:49] <chalcedony> amirman another burning software?
[05:49] <Ahadiel> chalcedony, try imgburn
[05:49] <uriel_> any ideas i realy need some help anybody?
[05:49] <amirman> chalcedony: yes the best one
[05:49] <linxuz3r> sup guys
[05:49] <amirman> chalcedony: its light and made just for ISOs
, i'm not sure how the md5 works.. how would one number verify the cd / image?
[05:50] <LitomoSilver> chalcedony: Have you tried Nero, PowerISO, etc?
[05:50] <SimplyJohnny> ok im ready to f'ing scream , i just did a 'fix' for firefox crashing and now everytime i open google while youtube is open it crashes
[05:50] <Ahadiel> !md5sum | Kristopher
[05:50] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: which "fix" ?
[05:50] <chalcedony> LitomoSilver i just need the cd to get my network back up and thence my Linux box
[05:50] <uriel_> wow this place is unhealpful today
[05:50] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings again all
[05:51] <LitomoSilver> Ah. You're on Vista, correct?
[05:51] <amirman> chalcedony: dont bother with powerISO or NERO, they are both proprietary and not free and will restrict your use of them, use this one http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:51] <wbmj> uriel: System > Preferences > Sound > tab labeled sounds
[05:51] <Ahadiel> chalcedony, Use imgburn => http://www.imgburn.com/
[05:51] <xTheGoat121x> Has anyone else upgraded yet to Firefox 3.0.1?
[05:51] <spoo1> wbmj: uriel already left
[05:51] <SimplyJohnny> removing libflash.so and reinstalling
[05:51] <SimplyJohnny> i did xTheGoat121x
[05:51] <chalcedony> guys i havae infarecorder.. let's go from there
[05:51] <SimplyJohnny> it was even worse
[05:51] <LitomoSilver> I have, xTheGoat121x.
[05:52] <LitomoSilver> It is stable so far.
[05:52] <chalcedony> amirman ive got it
[05:52] <SimplyJohnny> id switch to galeon if it would let me choose my own colors
[05:52] <SimplyJohnny> and if its tab setup wasnt so annoying
[05:52] <xTheGoat121x> SimplyJohnny, LitomoSilver, do either of you use dark themes?  B/C 3.0.1 broke my dark theme fix.
[05:52] <trimeta> Whenever I do chroot from Ubuntu, I always get an error like "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied" Any idea why this happens?
[05:52] <SimplyJohnny> i use xfce-dusk
[05:52] <Shish_> every other time i try to play a movie on totem, mplayer, or vlc, my ubuntu freezes up... have to manually power down and restart the comp...any ideas on how to fix this? please?
[05:52] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/firefox-crashing-on-youtube-in-ubuntu.html
[05:52] <SimplyJohnny> i dont use any ff theme
[05:52] <LitomoSilver> I don't use dark themes, unfortunately.
[05:52] <g0tcha> wols_, i ssh'd to ubuntu and tried to telnet from there, it does the same thing
[05:53] <chalcedony> amirman it''s 'scanning SCSI /IDE Bus and asking about what letter drive
[05:53] <Grackle> Kristopher, md5sum is a program that generates a cryptographic hash for a given file. md5sum file will output that hash along with the filename. If the hash is the same as the one listed on the server, then you know the file you downloaded isn't corrupted. I'll help you find the file that lists the md5sum for your image, hold on.
[05:53] <FAJALOU> i am having troubles on my current theme in emerald, sometimes when i switch screens, the top close, minimize etc. disappear.... any thoughts on how to fix it?
[05:53]  * spoo1 is so happy that he doesn't use vista anymore!!!!
[05:53] <russ> Anybody have a suggestion why gtkpod does not recognize when I've listened to a podcast on my iPod whenever I update it, after an upgrade to hardy?
[05:53] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: you shouldn't even need to do the last part where you edit the file, but see how it works and if it still crashes (it won't) try it
[05:53] <xTheGoat121x> SimplyJohnny, all right... cuz my FF3 looks horrible.  Black on black, black on dark gray... it's horrible and I can't figure out how to fix it again.
[05:54] <crdlb> FAJALOU: emerald is crash-prone abandonware. Use gtk- or kde-window-decorator if you find it too unstable
[05:54] <SimplyJohnny> have you tried gtk-chtheme xTheGoat121x ?
[05:54] <SimplyJohnny> uninstall the themes and try it
[05:54] <FAJALOU> crdlb:  how so?  b/c right now it looks fine and has worked?
[05:54] <Grackle> Kristopher, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM on Linux
[05:54] <SimplyJohnny> i dont mess with ff themes
[05:54] <amirman> chalcedony: it seems like your CD burner isnt recognized by windows
[05:54] <chalcedony> anyone walk me through the steps please?
[05:54] <xTheGoat121x> SimplyJohnny, I'll have to check that out.
[05:55] <xTheGoat121x> SimplyJohnny, me either... I don't like FF themes, I prefer FF to follow my system
[05:55] <Grackle> Kristopher, oops that link pasted badly, here it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20Linux
[05:55] <chalcedony> amirman it's a laptop the cd is built in
[05:55] <amirman> chalcedony: are you sure it has burning capabilities?
[05:55] <unop> trimeta, does the directory you are trying to chroot to have a directory heirarchy within it? or better, how did you create this directory?
[05:55] <SimplyJohnny> how do you get awesome to have a menu so i can get to system preferences?
[05:55] <Kristopher> ok, i'm checking :)
[05:55] <crdlb> FAJALOU: it's buggy, but that doesn't mean you'll always hit the bugs
[05:55] <Some_Person> HACKERS! GO TO ADEQUACY.ORG TO READ THE REAL STORY OF LUNIX AND UBUNTU!
[05:55] <chalcedony> amirman we bought it at christmas YES YES .. it does everythig
[05:56] <riegersn> at work on our windows boxes i can connect to another pc\shared with \\pcname\path
[05:56] <riegersn> can i do this in ubuntu?
[05:56] <amirman> chalcedony: if only you had an ubuntu live cd...
[05:56] <FAJALOU> recently i have been dealing with another issue too when i reboot, even though my things on the gnome panel are locked, they seem to move around.  it is only one spot, but it is still frusturating
[05:56] <spoo1> wbmj: Whats the best way to back up a theme? I have mixed a few themes together and I want to be able to post it and share it...
[05:56] <Kristopher> er.. how to use md5sum if linux won't work?? :(
[05:56] <LitomoSilver> Ordering LiveCDs from Canonical is fairly simple.
[05:56] <LitomoSilver> But not when you need them NOW. >_>;
[05:56] <unop> Kristopher, you can get md5sum for your OS
[05:57] <LitomoSilver> Wait...
[05:57] <chalcedony> it's an Acer extensa 5620
[05:57] <LitomoSilver> How about trying the Wubi installer?
[05:57] <amirman> FAJALOU: do you lock them after things are added to the notification area?
[05:57] <LitomoSilver> That should work as well.
[05:57] <LitomoSilver> o_O;
[05:57] <xTheGoat121x> SimplyJohnny, unfortunately, I don't think that peice of software will help me.
[05:57] <Some_Person> HACKERS! GO TO ADEQUACY.ORG TO READ THE REAL STORY OF LUNIX AND UBUNTU!
[05:57] <unop> !ops > Some_Person spamming
[05:57] <LitomoSilver> The only thing you'd need is a virtual cd/dvd drive to get the LiveCD downloaded working.
[05:57] <chalcedony> Some_Person that's offensive
[05:57] <FAJALOU> amirman: what do you mean the notification area, yes the notification area is one of the things that moves aroung
[05:57] <Harley^> crimsun_: ?
[05:58] <wbmj> spool: left click on the theme folder that you made.....there is an option to create an archive
[05:58] <crimsun_> Harley^: ?
[05:58] <Harley^> hjehe
[05:58] <Blaqlight> im really tired of firefox sometimes.
[05:58] <Harley^> I forgot what channel we were on
[05:58] <Harley^> hehehe
[05:58] <Ahadiel> !ops | Some_Person is spamming
[05:58] <Some_Person> dont ban me, i was only making a joke, to see the reaction, i didnt get anything though
[05:58] <michael_> can someone explain me, how i can change the actual rights of the partition i mounted into a directory? e.g. i mounted sda7 into /home/michael/Downloads but can't access it
[05:58] <Harley^> but, its working now
[05:58] <Blaqlight> none of my downloads ever want finish downloading.
[05:58] <Some_Person> i am a proud ubuntu user, and will stop
[05:58] <amirman> FAJALOU: next time you log into your system fresh, moves things where they need to go before adding anything to the notification area, then lock them
[05:59] <Harley^> crimsun_:  So what was done to fix it ?
[05:59] <crimsun_> Harley^: we made your onboard the secondary instead of the default/primary.
[05:59] <amirman> Some_Person: this channel isn't really accepting of jokes, even funny ones, they're disruptive, this is a getting-things-done channel, try ##club-ubuntu for jokes
[05:59] <wbmj> micheal_ : should be able to change rights in properties
[05:59] <Harley^> crimsun_:  What command did that ?
[05:59] <FAJALOU> amirman: not following you... what is the notification area?
[06:00] <crimsun_> Harley^: the configuration for snd.ko's slots parameter.
[06:00] <LitomoSilver> Notification area would be the clock and icons on the upper right, FAJALOU
[06:00] <chalcedony> choices of drive are E or F ?
[06:00] <amirman> FAJALOU: the part of the gnome-panel that functions like the system tray in windows,
[06:00] <chalcedony> amirman choices of drive are E or F ?
[06:00] <michael_> wbmj: ok, i've got set owner/group of the downloads directory already, but as i read i've got to change the right of the actual partition ?
[06:00] <amirman> chalcedony: try both
[06:00] <spoo1> wbmj: duh.... I'm sorry I'm trying to make this harder then it is.... its spoo(one) BTW :) thank you for your help you are awesome
[06:01] <amirman> chalcedony: try E and if it doesnt work try F
[06:01] <wbmj> spool:np
[06:01] <michael_> maybe directly accessing /dev/sda7 ?
[06:01] <FAJALOU> amirman:  ok i have it all where i want it right now... so what next?  b/c what is happening is that the system tray is moving things out of the way
[06:02] <SimplyJohnny> how do i increase the power of my wireless card
[06:02] <LitomoSilver> It shouldn't, so long as you lock them. o_O;
[06:02] <SimplyJohnny> and get it to quit shitting out on me
[06:02] <amirman> FAJALOU: you need to lock them where they go as soon as you log in, you have to be sure there arent things running there that aren't always there.
[06:02] <LitomoSilver> amirman: Wouldn't locking them in the current session do the same thing anyways?
[06:03] <FAJALOU> amirman:  i have the regular things open that i log in with opened, and i now have it locked...
[06:03] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: try not to use bad language here, go to system>administration>software sources and enable 3rd party sources (both checkboxes) then close it, it should find your wireless driver
[06:04] <dcsquare> Hello. Is there any advantage of installing Ubuntu on 64 bits if you have less than 4 GB of RAM?
[06:04] <SimplyJohnny> i've already enabled all software sources
[06:04] <LitomoSilver> ... D'oh.
[06:04] <amirman> LitomoSilver: only if the things in the notification area are always there, if he has an icon there for an app that he has opened manually or something like the system updater, it will lock it and have an empty space where those things are
[06:04] <SimplyJohnny> my card works
[06:04] <FAJALOU> dcsquare:  you have to make sure that your computer will run it.
[06:04] <LitomoSilver> I should've done that x_x;
[06:04] <LitomoSilver> Ah, makes sense.
[06:04] <Harley^> crimsun_: Are you using UbuntuStudio ?
[06:04] <harpreet_> dcsquare: no need RAM
[06:04] <SimplyJohnny> it just shits out every few minutes and i have to click on nm-applet and set it to the network
[06:04] <FAJALOU> dcsquare:  there is a difference between 32 bit and 64 bit
[06:04] <FAJALOU> !away | spoonation
[06:04] <crimsun_> Harley^: not per se.
[06:05] <dcsquare> I have a q6600 processor, so I can run 64 bit Ubuntu
, the md5sum check worked ok
[06:05] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: the only thing i can think is that if you have proposed packages enabled, the new kernel added a new wireless module for me, maybe that might help you too, or maybe not
[06:06] <spoonation> FAJALOU: I don't get it...
[06:06] <Harley^> crimsun_: You zeroed in on the problem and it seems to be resolved
[06:06] <camrail> will running 64 bit hurt a computer made to run 32 bit?
[06:06] <dcsquare> but in Windows the only reason you would install 64 bit version is to support more than 4 GB of RAM, cause other than that you would get only head aches: less druvers, lots of application that won't work on a 64 bit architecture etc
[06:06] <FAJALOU> spoonation: sorry wrong message, please don't try to do things that are noisy, like changing your nick in channel
[06:07] <LitomoSilver> True, but Windows64-bit can run 32bit software.
[06:07] <LitomoSilver> o_O;
[06:07] <Harley^> crimsun_: I have copied all of the commands into a text file for future reference
[06:07] <chalcedony> amirman i found it in E.. :) now it's trying to have me find the iso file, i think?
[06:07] <spoonation> oh ok sorry I didn't know that thank you :)
[06:07] <chalcedony> Harley^ wise man
[06:07] <chalcedony> i also log the channel
[06:07] <amirman> chalcedony: then you should be on your way to having a fresh ubuntu disc, as long as you remember where you stored the ISO
[06:07] <chalcedony> i clicked download
[06:08] <Harley^> chalcedony: not the first time, I wasn't LOL
[06:08] <chalcedony> and yes..
[06:08] <dcsquare> LitomoSilver: in theory yes... but have you tried premiere 5 on XP64? it's not pretty...
[06:08] <SimplyJohnny> is gotham knight the new batman flick
[06:08] <chalcedony> i don't know where it put it. i can see it on the desktop
[06:08] <LitomoSilver> No, but I'll be sure to try Premiere 5 on XP-64
[06:08] <amirman> !offtopic
[06:09] <LitomoSilver> Anyways, I've been meaning to ask how you can set Ubuntu to use a certain soundcard rather than integrated sound? >_>;
[06:09] <LitomoSilver> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04
[06:09] <bigboy99> i want to uninstall ubuntu and be able to go back to using just windows can someone help me
[06:09] <dcsquare> LitomoSilver: my point was that if you need to use legacy apps you'd best stay away from 64 bits
[06:09] <LitomoSilver> True.
[06:09] <FAJALOU> !dualboot | bigboy99
[06:09] <bigboy99> i am on dual boot but i want to get rid of ubuntu
[06:09] <LitomoSilver> Lol, yeah I have a dual-boot config. >:D
[06:10] <LitomoSilver> Then wiping the Ubuntu partition should be a simple matter. o_O;
[06:10] <crimsun_> LitomoSilver: you can either use asoundconf or modprobe configuration.
[06:10] <crimsun_> LitomoSilver: the latter is preferred but more intrusive.
[06:10] <dcsquare> bigboy99> xp disk and fixmbr
[06:10] <bigboy99> i need to know how to get rid of the grub boot manager
[06:10] <LitomoSilver> crimsun_:  Which would be...? I'm not familiar with the two stuff.
[06:10] <amirman> bigboy99: run the livecd and use gparted to erase the ubuntu partition
[06:10] <bigboy99> how do i get gparted
[06:10] <crimsun_> LitomoSilver: well, what's the problem, and what are you attempting?
[06:11] <bigboy99> i am not on xp
[06:11] <amirman> bigboy99: then use your windows disc to load into a repair commandline and run /fixmbr
[06:11] <ronin12345> Whats a linux application just for handling xdcc downloads? that support auto re connecting of downloads etc?
[06:11] <amirman> bigboy99: or it may just be fixmbr without the slash
[06:12] <LitomoSilver> Here's what I'm trying to do. I have two sound systems in this system, right? I want to route the sounds, ALL of them, to the sound system that isn't blocked by the I/O plate like the integrated sound is. I want to see if I can disable the onboard sound and use the discrete soundcard.
[06:12] <amirman> bigboy99: gparted is on the livecd
[06:12] <FAJALOU> bigboy99:  or just tell grub's menu.lst to boot to windows.  that way you can experiment with ubuntu when you want to.
[06:12] <CastilleV> Hi
[06:12] <Saladin> LitomoSilver: Just disable onboard sound in your BIOS. ^^
[06:12] <LitomoSilver> I know. >_>;
[06:13] <LitomoSilver> Not an option until I need to reboot.
[06:13] <Atomicsunset> anyone know how to make ndiswrapper not suck ? :P
[06:13] <FAJALOU> !hi |  CastilleV
[06:13] <LitomoSilver> Then again I could do /os global The server is going down for maintenance and will knock you offline. >_>;
[06:13] <LitomoSilver> and reboot and disable it anyways.
[06:13] <bigboy99> ok but how do i get gparted from the live cd
[06:13] <amirman> FAJALOU: if he has grub on his ubuntu partition (like i do and most who run the safest options during an ubuntu install do) that won't help
[06:14] <wbmj> Atomicsunset: ndisgtk is a GUI frontend that is easy to use
[06:14]  * CastilleV does IRC testing
[06:14] <FAJALOU> amirman:  but then he could keep ubuntu and play with it if he wants to
[06:14] <dcsquare> Rephrase: on a quad core processor with 2 GB of RAM, would I have any advantage of running Ubuntu 64 vs Ubuntu 32?
[06:14] <amirman> bigboy99: when you load into ubuntu from the live cd go to system>administration>partition editor
[06:14] <Kristopher> i think i'll just request a free cd... there might be problems with my computer hardware / cd burner / cds / iso image / burning software... this debugging is terribly impossible o.o
[06:14] <amirman> FAJALOU: he doesn't want to
[06:14] <Atomicsunset> ndiswrapper has a gui too but im just about fed up with my wifi card through ubuntu
[06:15] <FAJALOU> amirman: any more ideas about gnome-panel
[06:15] <chalcedony> amirman NTI CD % DVD Maker has stopped working, A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.  [close program]
[06:15] <amirman> Atomicsunset: have you tried enabling 3rd party software sources so you can use the proprietary drivers for your wireless card?
[06:15] <amirman> chalcedony: it sounds like a hardware issue to me
[06:15] <amirman> FAJALOU: did that not work?
[06:16] <Atomicsunset> no i havent
[06:16] <LitomoSilver> Ok... now I need to find the Creative sound card drivers. >_>;
[06:16] <chalcedony> amirman it better not be
[06:16] <Atomicsunset> i did try screamin and cursing but neither did me much good
[06:16] <chalcedony> and why
[06:16] <Atomicsunset> yet....
[06:16] <LitomoSilver> And try looking at the sysinfo.
[06:16] <FAJALOU> well in the system tray it is locked with everything else with the same amount of stuff it has on login, but it still moves stuff around
[06:16] <bigboy99> ok thank you i will try it
[06:16] <amirman> Atomicsunset: go to system>administration>software sources and on the 3rd party tab select both checkboxes, then close, it will then update and automatically install drivers for you
[06:16] <Elijah> Ubuntu Rocks!
[06:17] <Atomicsunset> update via online or disc?
[06:17] <Saladin> LitomoSilver: Try this site - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/35890
[06:17] <amirman> Atomicsunset: online
[06:17] <taladel> Hey all
[06:17] <Atomicsunset> i cant get online through ubuntu. i have 3 hotspots but ubuntu cant see the one i connect to
[06:17] <Atomicsunset> im in windows now
[06:17] <Atomicsunset> it sees all 3 connections
[06:18] <Ahadiel> Atomicsunset, What wireless card do you have?
[06:18] <Atomicsunset> 2 are secured the one im on is not, it just has a very weak signal
[06:18] <amirman> Atomicsunset: you'll need to connect with a lan cable for a few minutes but after the wireless driver installs, you're good to go
[06:18] <Atomicsunset> my wireless card works tho
[06:18] <Atomicsunset> i can see 2 connections
[06:18] <Atomicsunset> i have a broadcom card
[06:18] <Ahadiel> !b43
[06:18] <Atomicsunset> one sec i can get exact model n chip set
[06:19] <Atomicsunset> damn the b43!
[06:19] <amirman> Atomicsunset: ubuntu can install broadcom drivers very easily for you automatically if you follow the steps i've given you
[06:19] <wbmj> amirman: I don't think Atomic has hardwire access
[06:19] <Atomicsunset> amirman: would i be able to use my wifi if the drivers are not installed. like i said ive connected to hotspots already through it
[06:19] <Atomicsunset> i dont
[06:20] <Atomicsunset> im just a useless leech to my neighbors atm
[06:20] <Atomicsunset> i just moved in
[06:20] <amirman> Atomicsunset: you've connected wirelessly with ubuntu already?
[06:20] <Atomicsunset> correct
[06:20] <Atomicsunset> there are 3 hotspots where i am
[06:20] <ronin12345> I'm going away for a month and want to be able to queue up some downloads from XDCC bots... anyone know ehat I can use to do this?  Not the solution
[06:21] <Atomicsunset> i know i know
[06:21] <Atomicsunset> exactly
[06:21] <moreau> or do you mean from irc bots, not a hub?
[06:21] <ronin12345> irc
[06:21] <amirman> Atomicsunset: if you could get connected with a cable you'll be in business the only other way i know is to use NDISwrapper which is a pain in the bottom
[06:22] <Atomicsunset> i agree
[06:22] <udan_udin> e
[06:22] <Atomicsunset> or find a way to crack the other 2's wpa
[06:22] <Atomicsunset> :P
[06:22] <amirman> Atomicsunset: maybe you can find a .deb of the driver you need online, what's the exact model?
[06:22] <ronin12345> DC++ is troublesome from china as almost everyhub is on a dynamicIP host and therefor blocked
[06:22] <Miranda> hi, I downloaded ubuntu via firefox and now it says that it can't find the file :-(
[06:22] <nickrud> amirman you've missed the point: his ubuntu wireless works, but he doesn't see a hotspot he expects to
[06:22] <moreau> well there are some clients that can automatically accept downloads without asking you for permission
[06:23] <nickrud> Miranda in windows? do a search
[06:23] <Atomicsunset> BCM 0465 REV 3.9
[06:23] <amirman> nickrud: yeah, but the drivers should boost performance of his wireless.
[06:23] <taladel> Miranda: Is the listing still in your download window in Firefox?
[06:23] <Atomicsunset> chipset 4311 / 2050
[06:23] <Miranda> taladel: yes
[06:23] <ronin12345> yeah but the adverage client will forget what was requested and then I can only queue on the server... I need local queueing... there are a few windows apps for it so i suppose i could try wine
[06:24] <amirman> nickrud: he said he's never enabled 3rd party software sources so he's not using the proprietary driver
[06:24] <Atomicsunset> im using the default updated ubuntu drivers
[06:24] <taladel> Right click the listing and go to 'Open containing folder'. See if that does anything.
[06:24] <Ahadiel> amirman, he IS using the proprietary driver with ndiswrapper
[06:24] <Atomicsunset> i connected and updated the basics
[06:24] <Atomicsunset> but that was at a coffee shop
[06:24] <nickrud> amirman b43 is in restricted and b43-fwcutter is in main
[06:25] <moreau> how can i figure out what driver is beig used by my video card
[06:25] <Atomicsunset> i have tried bothe b43 b43cutter and the fuego
[06:25] <Atomicsunset> moreau: device manager?
[06:25] <Scott_Johnstone> I'd like to set the screensaver to "Random" but only include a specific list of screensavers to choose from.. The easy way that occurs to me is to track down the individual screensaver modules and just remove them. Is there an easier way to do this? If not, where would I look for the screensaver files?
[06:25] <taladel> Miranda: Right click the listing and go to 'Open containing folder'. See if that does anything.
[06:26] <moreau> device manager? wheres that?
[06:26] <moreau> theres only 'hardware devices' under system>admin
[06:26] <Miranda> taladel: did that. the computer said that the file did not exist. :-/
[06:26] <amirman> ohh
[06:26] <nickrud> Scott_Johnstone i think they're in /usr/share/xscreensaver/config
[06:26] <Scott_Johnstone> nickrud: thanks I'll check
[06:26] <amirman> taladel: did you reboot after downloading?
[06:26] <Saladin> moreau: sudo apt-get install gnome-device-manager
[06:27] <taladel> moreau: doesn't come standard. Go to synaptic package manager and search for device manager
[06:27] <Miranda> taladel: I am going to re-download and save it to the folder because firefox downloaded it as a disc instead of a disc image
[06:27] <moreau> and that seems to be trying to list restricted/proprietary drivers (cuz its an emty list)
[06:27] <Atomicsunset> moreau: applications/add-remove
[06:27] <moreau> ah ok
[06:27] <nickrud> Scott_Johnstone that doesn't feel right, I think they're somewhere else (unless the format changed again)
[06:27] <Atomicsunset> search for device manager
[06:27] <Scott_Johnstone> nickrud: that looks like the place!
[06:27] <taladel> Miranda: good call
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> AtomicMongoose: best guide i've found for bcm wireless and ndiswrapper.  the drivers they mention may be old though.  just use the correct windows drivers for your card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[06:27] <Saladin> moreau: Then, once it has installed just run gnome-device-manager in terminal
[06:27] <Saladin> moreau: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/35890 <-- Tells you how to add it to the menu
[06:28] <Atomicsunset> can i use fiesty with harvy? or hardy or whatever :P
[06:28] <FAJALOU> amirman: any thoughts on the gnome-panel?
[06:28] <moreau> thanks guys
[06:28] <taladel> moreau: np
[06:28] <Scott_Johnstone> nickrud: hmm actually I think you're right about that being the wrong place after all, these are just .xml files
[06:28] <Atomicsunset> good luk moreau!
[06:28] <Daniel_2> Okay, I'm here day two in a row. I put the ubuntu .iso file onto a disc, and when i tried to boot up the computer, I choose "ubuntu" on the grub menu. but NOTHING worked.
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> AtomicMongoose: just follow the directions, worked for me in Hardy
[06:28] <Atomicsunset> aight
[06:28] <amirman> FAJALOU: what applets do you have on your panel?
[06:28] <Daniel_2> just went to a black screen with an MsDOS look to it.
[06:28] <Atomicsunset> thanks a bunch man
[06:28] <LitomoSilver> Daniel_2 do you have any other OSes on the computer?
[06:29] <Daniel_2> Windows Vista
[06:29] <Saladin> Also, Daniel_2, did you download the desktop edition? Or the server edition?
[06:29] <Daniel_2> Desktop edition
[06:29] <amirman> or the alternate install
[06:29] <Daniel_2> Desktop edition for AMD 64bit
[06:29] <FAJALOU> search applet, space, cpu monitor, space  system tray, network connection, sound, notification area weather,seperator time, shutdown button
[06:30] <LitomoSilver> Have you tried using the Wubi installer that comes with the LiveCD?
[06:30] <Saladin> Daniel_2: See my PM please.
[06:31] <nickrud> Scott_Johnstone /usr/share/applications/screensavers
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> swrew wubi, don't be a wuss! just install it! =)
[06:31] <FAJALOU> amirman:  PM?
[06:31] <LitomoSilver> kindofabuzz: I used Wubi the first time. Couldn't get it to work properly.
[06:31] <moreau> eh the device manager seems worthless--it just tells me the name/model of my video card, doesnt seem to be any driver information at all
[06:31] <taladel> I'm having issues getting OSS to install. I'm following  Temujin's guide on the forum, and I get an error message saying "Relinking the OSS kernel modules failed". Thoughts?
[06:32] <LitomoSilver> Then installed it straight from the LiveCD the second time.
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> just make a partition and install it.
[06:32] <LitomoSilver> Got it working the second time.
[06:32] <Miranda> taladel: I know what happened....sonic recording now saved it as a temp file...and deleted it when the file was not compatible
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> delete your windows xp and be happy
[06:32] <taladel> miranda: I see.
[06:32] <Saladin> kindofabuzz: VERY true, my friend!
[06:32] <wbmj> moreau: what card
[06:32] <wols_> moreau: glxinfo  or Xorg.0.log
[06:32] <trimeta> kindofabuzz: Well, sometimes one needs Windows...hence, install XP within VirtualBox once you're done.
[06:32] <moreau> Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> who NEEDS windows?
[06:33] <moreau> newbs
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> lol
[06:33] <taladel> People who program in .NET
[06:33] <trimeta> kindofabuzz: When Wine isn't good enough to make that one program run.
[06:33] <LitomoSilver> Lol. That's what I intend to do, delete XP on this system and extend the partition to take up the entire two hard drives.
[06:33] <nickrud> moreau you'd be using xserver-xorg-video-intel driver
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> trimeta: i'm sure there is a better linux alternative anyways
[06:33] <SimplyJohnny> i cant get any video plugin to play video
[06:33] <trimeta> kindofabuzz: Not in every situation. Maybe it's some old unsupported software your company relies upon.
[06:33]  * julio_neto Hello everybody!
[06:34] <moreau> nickrud: how can i find out more info about it, like whether or not opengl is running, or direct2d info, and crap like that
[06:34] <kindofabuzz> taladel: they shouldn't even be messing with .NET =)
[06:34] <trimeta> !hi|julio_neto
[06:34] <bobertdos> !xine | SimplyJohnny
[06:34] <SimplyJohnny> xine doesnt work either
[06:34] <rwk424x> anyone installed NAS on ubuntu before?
[06:34] <SimplyJohnny> i said any plugin
[06:34] <wols_> !doesn't work
[06:34] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: have you tried vlc?
[06:34] <julio_neto> hi
[06:34] <trimeta> moreau: Maybe try glxinfo?
[06:34] <SimplyJohnny> vlc totem mplayer xine
[06:34] <bobertdos> SimplyJohnny: What are you trying to play??
[06:34] <nickrud> moreau the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log has an incredible amount of info, and glxinfo and xdpyinfo provide a bunch more
[06:34] <SimplyJohnny> a movie
[06:34] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: are you talking about for firefox?
[06:34] <wols_> moreau: I told you long ago
[06:34] <SimplyJohnny> yes
[06:34] <taladel> kindofabuzz: I don't disagree, but a lot of programmers I know make their living programming in .NET
[06:34] <nickrud> moreau glxinfo and xdpyinfo are commands
[06:34] <LitomoSilver> Blah. How do you disable the Intel integrated sound? -_-;
[06:34] <bobertdos> SimplyJohnny: DVD movie?
[06:35] <LitomoSilver> WITHOUT rebooting and disabling it via BIOS, please.
[06:35] <SimplyJohnny> ...its a firefox plugin
[06:35] <SimplyJohnny> idk the format
[06:35] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: have you installed flash 10 beta yet?
[06:35] <wols_> LitomoSilver: blacklist the driver
[06:35] <rwk424x> LitomoSilver: blisti t
[06:35] <SimplyJohnny> yes amirman it worked
[06:35] <LitomoSilver> wols_: How do you do that, then? o_o
[06:35] <SimplyJohnny> but i dont know if it wont crash anymore yet
[06:35] <LitomoSilver> I understand the concept. Not necessarily how to do it. :P
[06:35] <wols_> !blacklist
[06:36] <nickrud> LitomoSilver sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel
[06:36] <LitomoSilver> Ah.
[06:36] <amirman> SimplyJohnny: you can't view videos with flash 10?
[06:36] <SimplyJohnny> its not flash
[06:36] <rwk424x> how do I find out the ip of my NAS within ubuntu, its displayed as samba shared
[06:36] <wols_> SimplyJohnny: then what is it? unless you start giving enough info, helping you is hard...
[06:36] <nickrud> LitomoSilver that doesn't blacklist, it removes it from the running kernel
[06:36] <nickrud> !blacklist | LitomoSilver
[06:36] <SimplyJohnny> i dont know
[06:36] <SimplyJohnny> its on tv-links
[06:36] <SimplyJohnny> http://www.tv-links.cc/redir4.php?l=aHR0cDovL3d3dy52aWRlb2VtYmVkZGVyLmNvbS9wbGF5LnBocD90eXBlPXpzaGFyZSZ2YWw9ekVCazljZzg/VHM5by56M2NMRkcvNDVrNjZ2S21uP1ZWWHFVOUR1elBQLmZyeGdZRFQ=
[06:37] <wols_> !warez
[06:37] <moreau> woot glxinfo worked...i was trying fglrxinfo or something else earlier.  unfortunately its just a ton of output that I dont understand, other than a few lines
[06:37] <LitomoSilver> Hmm. etc, eh? Alright, be back in a few minutes.
[06:37] <SimplyJohnny> anything that requires mplayer or totem/vlc plugin doesnt work
[06:37] <wols_> moreau: glxinfo |grep direct
[06:38] <rwk424x> !nas
[06:38] <nickrud> moreau most of it is useless to all but programmer/debuggers anyway
[06:38] <moreau> yeah thats the only line i understood :P
[06:38] <rwk424x> :/
[06:38] <varunn> !sex
[06:38] <LitomoSilver> Ok, I see a few blacklist stuff.
[06:38] <LitomoSilver> blacklist would be the one I try then?
[06:38] <wols_> rwk424x: is the NAS mounted?
[06:38] <trimeta> !drugs > trimeta
[06:38] <nickrud> LitomoSilver blacklisting's intent is to prevent a module loading on boot.
[06:38] <trimeta> !rocknroll > trimeta
[06:39] <bobertdos> SimplyJohnny: Well guess what? I'm in Windows right now, and it won't play in FF or IE, even after I let the ActiveX control run!
[06:39] <isleshocky77> So I got my screens setup the way I want using xrandr. How can i make this a permanent setting that I can switch to and from using xorg.conf or something?
[06:39] <LitomoSilver> I know, nickrud.
[06:39] <BrandonS> Anyone know a good ftp?
[06:39] <LitomoSilver> I'm trying to blacklist my intel integrated sound.
[06:39] <rwk424x> wols_: I dont know, i just plugged it in, and its visible in my samba shares, but how can you mount a nas? I mean its connected only with a network cable
[06:39] <nickrud> LitomoSilver to remove support for the intel sound chip, try  sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel
[06:39] <Ahadiel> trimeta, You can message ubottu with the !trigger and it'll respond in that PM.
[06:39] <LitomoSilver> Already did that. Got no confirmation that it was done. It was then, I take it?
[06:40] <trimeta> Ahadiel: Good to know; I tried joining #ubuntu-bot to see if there was a place to easily mess with him, but no such luck.
[06:40] <nickrud> LitomoSilver that should work in a running system. lsmod | grep snd will show you the sound modules loaded
[06:40] <nickrud> LitomoSilver and yes, no output is nearly always a sign of success rather than failure
[06:40] <julio_neto> guys ...
[06:41] <excess21> ?
[06:41] <Elijah> BrandonS, what does that mean?
[06:41] <LitomoSilver> Ok, I just wanted to be sure. :P
[06:41] <alex1> http://www.pastebin.org/57215 anyone good with mythtv want to help me get set up? I have this error message whe n I choose 'watch tv'
[06:41] <Elijah> jscinoz, if you want a dropbox invite check your pm
[06:41] <BrandonS> ftp client
[06:42] <jscinoz> Elijah, thanks
[06:42] <BrandonS> Anyways will ask later
[06:42] <julio_neto> I'm trying to use a Conxant fax/modem ... I installed it and look like everything is fine. But I can't use g-ppp only wvdial, why gnome-ppp dosen't work?
[06:42] <taladel> Anyone have success installing the X-Fi beta drivers?
[06:42] <zz0> sil: check the .conf file
[06:42] <nickrud> julio_neto try right clicking the network applet in the systray, and defining your dialup there. gnome-ppp is pretty much depreciated these days
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> are there still ISP's that use ppp?
[06:43] <bobertdos> Wow, it's quiet tonight.
[06:43] <alex1> Mythtv go to TV, when I click watch tv screen goes black for a sec, thenflicks back to menu.. Any ideas folks?
[06:43] <nickrud> kindofabuzz dialup
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> oh
[06:43] <julio_neto> nickrud, tks man... I'll do it
[06:43] <LitomoSilver> Ok, using grep, I can see snd_intel8x0 35356  4
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> i thought ppp was that old school dsl
[06:43] <moreau> 'fixme:' errors mean whatever it is hasnt been implemented yet right? meaning I cant possibly fix it :P
[06:43] <amirman> alex1: try #mythtv
[06:44] <alex1> thats for dev, I am trying mythtv-users but noone is home!
[06:44] <nickrud> julio_neto that's left click, manual config, sorry. Trusted my memory ;)
[06:45] <taladel> When an install fails and creates a dump log, where does it go?
[06:45] <nickrud> moreau no, it's fixable, dive on in ;)
[06:46] <puwei> hi ,i want install xubuntu 7.10 to my pc  from  disk , i don't hav cd-rom, can you tell me how should i do that
[06:46] <nickrud> !install | puwei there's a few methods availble here
[06:46] <nickrud>  ubottu ...
[06:47] <moreau> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33eda4,0x00000000), stub!---Anyone know what this means? trying to run world of warcraft with '-opengl' appended
[06:47] <puwei> !install
[06:47] <trimeta> !trigger
[06:47] <nickrud> !test
[06:47] <moreau> hes a little old give him sometimes
[06:47] <moreau> some time*
[06:47] <bobertdos> :D
[06:47] <pretender> I have created a spare EXT 3 partition for storage how do i mount it to say backup partition
[06:48] <bobertdos> that was funny
[06:48] <puwei> ok thank you
[06:48] <PucKid> good morning (:
[06:48] <Saladin> puwei: I would personally install 8.04 (Unless you HAVE to have 7.10), download the ISO file from the website, mount it using a mounting program on Windows, and then run the CD which allows you to install from Windows.
[06:48] <SimplyJohnny> can anyone help me get mozilla-mplayer
[06:49] <moreau> saladin: using that theory, is it possible to install windows from ubuntu?
[06:49] <LitomoSilver> Should be possible, moreau.
[06:50] <puwei> saladin my os is ubuntun 8.04  ,i want change it to xubuntu 7.10 , my pc is old
[06:50] <Saladin> moreau: Not that I am aware of. Windows has to install from boot.
[06:50] <LitomoSilver> >_>; If you can install Ubuntu from Windows, likewise you can probably try installing Windows from Ubuntu. >_>;
[06:50] <chalcedony> windows likes to be first.. it insists on it
[06:50] <bobertdos> SimplyJohnny: I'm just checking, but did you see what I said earlier?
[06:50] <phrakk> can somebody help me with my audio it suddenly stopped working a while ago and i havn't been able to fix it
[06:50] <Saladin> moreau: Whereas Hardy has an Install From Windows option.
[06:50] <DrRealHouse> moreau: Actually you can install Ubuntu in Windows...
[06:50] <SimplyJohnny> no
[06:50] <Daniel_2> DrRealHouse, how?
[06:50] <eugene_> Anyone here familiar with flash cs3?
[06:50] <anubis5555> hi, is skype works on ubuntu 64bit?
[06:51] <DrRealHouse> moreau: on a file system directly in the ntfs drive
[06:51] <robert__> does anyone know how to install frostwire in xubuntu?
[06:51] <moreau> eh imalready on ubuntu man, wrong person :P
[06:51] <DrRealHouse> anubis5555: Yes, it is possible but there are some special tweaks to do, nothing hard, it is document on the net.
[06:51] <bobertdos> SimplyJohnny: I said, I'm in Windows and I couldn't get anything from that site to play in FF or IE, even after I let the ActiveX control install.
[06:52] <amirman> moreau: you were ridiculing the concept - he had the right person
[06:52] <anubis5555> could you give a link DrReal House
[06:52] <DrRealHouse> robert__: Go to www.getdeb.net, there is a package if I remember well.
[06:52] <Guest88207> does anyone know how to install frostwire in xubuntu?
[06:52] <anubis5555> thank you, I'ii see it
[06:52] <moreau> what was i ridiculing?
[06:53] <Guest88207> thanks
[06:54] <Guest88207> address not found
[06:54] <Daniel_2> Does anyone know how to remove an install of ubuntu from my grub menu?
[06:54] <Daniel_2> It failed, and i need it gone so i can restart
[06:54] <amirman> Daniel_2: you need to edit your menu.lst file in /boot/grub/
[06:54] <DrRealHouse> anubis5555: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype to install skype on amd64
[06:54] <Flannel> Daniel_2: Restart what?  an  Ubuntu install?
[06:55] <trimeta> Daniel_2: Are you dual-booting with another Linux distro? If not, you might want to do more than just mess with menu.lst.
[06:55] <Daniel_2> Amirman: that made no sense.
[06:55] <Daniel_2> Flannel: yup
[06:55] <Flannel> Daniel_2: just start the install again
[06:55] <anubis5555> thank you DrRealHouse
[06:55] <Vegombrei> hi ... whats 64 studio ?
[06:55] <Daniel_2> Trimeta: no. I'm trying to get my computer to boot from a CD instead of the HDD so i can install ubuntu
[06:56] <trimeta> Daniel_2: That's a matter of changing your BIOS to make the CD come first.
[06:56] <Daniel_2> Trimeta: and how would this be done.
[06:56] <moreau> hit F2 or whatever when its booting to go into BIOS
[06:56] <trimeta> When your computer first boots, it'll say something like "Press F2 for setup," it might not be F2, so actually read.
[06:56] <moreau> @daniel2
[06:56] <Vegombrei> Daniel_2: try setting it to boot from cd rom thru your bios setup
[06:56] <anubis5555> DrRealHouse: I think it is easy
[06:56] <anubis5555> :)
[06:57] <Daniel_2> Trimeta: been through that a few times. It won't let me set any priority, just gives me three options (HDD, CD, and LAN) and then says press enter to select
[06:57] <DrRealHouse> anubis5555: Possible, it is been a while that my skype is installed :)
[06:57] <Saladin> Daniel_2: Your BIOS should give you instructions at the bottom of the screen, as to what buttons to press.
[06:57] <Daniel_2> Saladin: nope.
[06:58] <trimeta> Daniel_2: You hit the wrong one then; it might have had "F2 for boot options or F12 for setup," or something like that.
[06:58] <Daniel_2> Saladin:  i've looked twice. I get nothing.  From there, it gives me no options.
[06:59] <LitomoSilver> o_o
[06:59] <Daniel_2> LitomoSilver: i've gotten into the menu
[06:59] <nickrud> Daniel_2 how about the bios setup, maybe some are disabled
[06:59] <trimeta> Daniel_2: The setup menu is what you want, not the boot menu.
[06:59] <Daniel_2> Let me go again and write down exactly what it says. i'll see from there.
[06:59] <trimeta> Or BIOS setup, some other optoin.
[06:59] <Vegombrei> Daniel_2: how are you talking to us while your computer is on the bios screen ??
[07:00] <Daniel_2> It isn't, Vegombrei
[07:00] <LitomoSilver> That would help, Daniel_2
[07:00] <Vegombrei> hehehe
[07:00] <Daniel_2> brb
[07:00] <prince_jammys> boot menu sounds right. i've never seen a BIOS that doesn't allow one to change the boot order.
[07:00]  * nickrud waits for Daniel_2 to bop Vegombrei upside the head
[07:00] <DrRealHouse> Vegombrei: Never heard of brain implants :)
[07:00] <LitomoSilver> Same, prince_jammys
[07:00] <Vegombrei> Daniel_2: remember .. its the boot sequence you need to change
[07:01] <Daniel_2> Oh, one final thing: I have a problem with the way the .iso is on the CD. When I put it into the drive, it doesn't run the .iso. just opens an explorer window showing the contents of the CD. Did i do it wrong?
[07:01] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: Hey you were just helping me with screensavers... I checked in /usr/share/applications/screensavers/ and there are a bunch of .desktop files that look like what I might be supposed to delete...
[07:01] <Atomicsunset> well i got the ndiswrapper to work finally
[07:01] <trimeta> Daniel_2: Yes.
[07:01] <trimeta> You did it wrong.
[07:01] <Daniel_2> Crud.
[07:01] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder yeah, did you see my last to you? Pointed at that one ;)
[07:01] <prince_jammys> Daniel_2: you need to burn it as an image, not a file
[07:01] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: I tried moving them to ../bak, logged out, and logged back in... they still show up in the screensaver list
[07:01] <Daniel_2> I put it on there as a data file using the windows burner
[07:01] <Saladin> Daniel_2: You need to burn the .iso with Nero or something, that will make it an actual install disc
[07:02] <Atomicsunset> but i cant ping anything nor myself and my connection drops to 0% after a minute
[07:02] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: Yep that's why I'm addressing you specifically this time around ;)
[07:02] <Daniel_2> Okay. now i have to go get nero... this is a complicated set up.
[07:02] <prince_jammys> Daniel_2: check the options of whatever software you're using to burn it, and make sure to burn as image
[07:02] <LitomoSilver> Yeah you did do wrong, Daniel_2
[07:02] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder try removing all but 2, and setting random, see what happens
[07:02] <Daniel_2> I'll be back with Nero.
[07:02] <Saladin> Daniel_2: Google for 'Image burners' - You may find a free one.
[07:02] <Vegombrei> Daniel_2: yeah you need nero
[07:02] <prince_jammys> Daniel_2: 'deepburner' will do it, for windows. it's free.
[07:02] <Atomicsunset> nero can be found for free
[07:02] <nickrud> imgburn, ifrarecorder, both gpl
[07:03] <trimeta> Atomicsunset: True, but not as easily as others.
[07:03] <Ahadiel> Daniel_2, use http://imgburn.com
[07:03] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: ok hold on
[07:03] <Saladin> You know, I like that Ubuntu picks up the file is a .iso and then offers you the selection automatically to burn it as an image.
[07:03] <Saladin> ^^
[07:03] <Atomicsunset> what causes wifi connections to drop to 0% in ubuntu after 1 minute?
[07:03] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder I'm in and out tonight
[07:04] <LitomoSilver> Really, Saladin?
[07:04] <Saladin> Atomicsunset: Why bother searching for a free Nero? Not like he'll be using Windows much longer. ;)
[07:04] <LitomoSilver> Didn't know that. Should be useful to know.
[07:04] <moreau> anyone know why a folder wouldnt appear in nautilus,but would list itself in terminal
[07:04] <Daniel_2> Saladin, that would help, if it weren't that i'm trying to burn an image to use Ubuntu lol
[07:04] <Atomicsunset> i can connect but i have no internet and it loses all activity but claims im still connected
[07:04] <Atomicsunset> very true saladin
[07:04] <nickrud> moreau there's a way to mark folders to be skipped in the display ...
[07:04] <prince_jammys> moreau: what command did you use to list it in the terminal?
[07:04] <Saladin> moreau: It is probably hidden. Use CTRL+H to show hidden files and folders
[07:04] <Atomicsunset> i want to say the same for myself!
[07:05] <LitomoSilver> This is why I have a dual-boot config. >_>;
[07:05] <Atomicsunset> my wfi is being a pain tho
[07:05] <Atomicsunset> same here
[07:05] <Atomicsunset> im in windows atm
[07:05]  * julio_neto encheu o saco
[07:05] <LitomoSilver> XP and Ubuntu. Though this computer will be wiped clean soon and have Xubuntu installed on it... or Kubuntu.
[07:05] <LitomoSilver> I can't remember which ones is for slower computers.
[07:06] <Daniel_2> Ok. Now I'm using ImgBurn. I just click "write image file to disc" and click the file?
[07:06] <Ahadiel> LitomoSilver, Xubuntu (XFCE)
[07:06] <Ahadiel> Daniel_2, yes
[07:06] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver:  xu. but flux is good too
[07:06] <Saladin> Yeah, LitomoSilver: Just double click the .iso file, and it comes up with the option to burn. ^^
[07:06] <LitomoSilver> Lol, then I burned Xubuntu.
[07:06] <LitomoSilver> flux?
[07:06] <Saladin> Is xfce any good?
[07:06] <Ahadiel> Xfce is nice and lightweight.
[07:06] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: the fluxbox desktop
[07:06] <Saladin> I've tried KDE but hated it.
[07:06] <LitomoSilver> I've also used DSL... DamnSmallLinux
[07:06] <LitomoSilver> Ah. Of course. Should've been obvious.
[07:06] <trimeta> Fluxbox is even more lightweight than XFCE.
[07:07]  * LitomoSilver facepalmed
[07:07] <Atomicsunset> is there a "netstumbler" for ubuntu?
[07:07] <LitomoSilver> And to get fluxbox would take what?
[07:07] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: ok tried moving all into ../bak then moving three back into .
[07:07] <Atomicsunset> i wanna scan to see where my signal is strongest
[07:07] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: now screensaver will only display Xlyap
[07:07] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:07] <trimeta> LitomoSilver: Either install from the fluxbuntu CD, or apt-get install fluxbox.
[07:07] <Vegombrei> Saladin: whats different in KDE ?
[07:07] <moreau> agh sorry for the slow response, but its not a hidden folder, showing hidden items wnt display it
[07:07] <LitomoSilver> Getting fluxbox via apt-get
[07:07] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder then you're on the right path
[07:07] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: although all of them still show up in the list and the little mini-preview for all of them works
[07:07] <moreau> and i cd-ed to the dir above it and did 'dir'
[07:08] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder that's probably due to the xml files we looked at earlier
[07:08] <Saladin> Vegombrei: Not a great deal, It is just a different GUI. For me, it is a little too kiddy - reminds me of XP but for six year olds.
[07:08] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: getting it setting up involves work, but it's pretty cool once you have it the way you want it. xubuntu is easier
[07:08] <Atomicsunset> is there an alternate wifi manager?
[07:08] <LitomoSilver> True, Xubuntu is easier.
[07:08] <LitomoSilver> I've used Xubuntu before.
[07:08] <l337ingDisorder> aha so I'll move them and replace the ones that I've re-enabled in the apps dir
[07:08] <LitomoSilver> It is pretty good. >:D
[07:08] <prince_jammys> Saladin: totally changeable through config
[07:08] <moreau> Atomicsunset: Wicd is an alternative--there are others as well
[07:09] <LitomoSilver> But to be honest, you could interchangeably use different sets, such as KDE, GNOME and Xfce right?
[07:09] <Saladin> prince-jammys: Yeah, but I'm lazy, and Gnome seems to be more pleasurable on the eyes. And, I've gotten used to Gnome now.
[07:09] <Atomicsunset> im just getting irritated with this almost there but not quite
[07:09] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: yep
[07:09] <LitomoSilver> Alrighty.
[07:09] <Ahadiel> LitomoSilver, Yup, I'm using Openbox/Gnome right now.
[07:09]  * prince_jammys is a config freak
[07:09] <LitomoSilver> Ok. Got Fluxbox installed.
[07:09] <Daniel_2> Okay, burning now. but is there anyway to install ubuntu without going through the boot up menu mess? Like as in: Install Ubuntu while windows is running, and through windows.
[07:09] <nickrud> I'd forgotten about that .hidden file, very handy
[07:10] <Vegombrei> LitomoSilver: one can use kde gnome xfce all at once ??
[07:10] <LitomoSilver> No.
[07:10] <Saladin> LitomoSilver: By using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then replace ubuntu with xubuntu/kubuntu.
[07:10] <LitomoSilver> One at a time.
[07:10] <trimeta> But you can have them all installed at once.
[07:10] <LitomoSilver> Correct, trimeta
[07:10] <Rat409> !wubi | Daniel_2
[07:10] <Saladin> Then, you choose which you want to load at log in, through session manager.
[07:10] <nickrud> !install | Daniel_2 (see the tinyurl)
[07:10] <book> it's damn hot. what's your cpu temperature? mine 65c
[07:10] <LitomoSilver> Now to configure Fluxbox would take what?
[07:11] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: time......
[07:11] <SimplyJohnny> can anyone help me get mozilla-mplayer working
[07:11] <Saladin> Although, Enlightenment does mix both Gnome and KDE.
[07:11] <LitomoSilver> I've been wanting to cut down on the fat that Ubuntu has. :P And run it as minimally as possible while still having a gui >_>;
[07:11] <SimplyJohnny> none of the mozilla plugins are working
[07:11] <camrail> ubuntu has a program called andlinux that will put ununtu inside of windows xp
[07:11] <Daniel_2> One question on Wubi: does it overwrite the failed Ubuntu install or does it put up another one along side it?
[07:12] <Saladin> Daniel_2: Overwrite.
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> prince_jammys: I know it takes time. :P I mean what do I do to kickstart the fluxbox config?
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> Daniel_2: Overwrite.
[07:12] <nickrud> Daniel_2 it puts it into a file inside of windows
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> I had a failed install.
[07:12] <Daniel_2> Saladin, that's a huge help. Thanks.
[07:12] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: ok tried moving all the .xml files and replacing the ones that have .desktop files left in the apps dir
[07:12] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: same result
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> I overwrote it with a valid image of Ubuntu.
[07:12] <Daniel_2> U too litomosilver. you guys are great.
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> THerefore, here I am. =D
[07:12] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder not sure then. It's an interesting exercise ;)
[07:12] <LitomoSilver> You're welcome, Daniel_2.
[07:12] <Saladin> Litomo: Just use sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:13] <l337ingDisorder> well that's ballsack. :P heh
[07:13] <Saladin> Then you won't have to do a fresh install.
[07:13] <Saladin> Just use Xfce as your default GUI.
[07:13] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder it could be you would need to restart gnome-session, or gnome-screensaver if it's running as a daemon
[07:13] <prince_jammys> LitomoSilver: log out of your current session, and switch to 'fluxbox' in the sessions menu of the login screen
[07:13] <l337ingDisorder> hmm yea true, worth a shot :)
[07:13] <l337ingDisorder> brb
[07:13] <LitomoSilver> Ah.
[07:13] <LitomoSilver> Alrighty.
[07:13] <Rat409> LitomoSilver: try this  http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/fluxbox_on_ubuntu_guide/
[07:14] <LitomoSilver> Thanks, Rat409.
[07:14] <Rat409> sure
[07:14] <LitomoSilver> Looking at it now.
[07:14] <TEN> Keyboard weirdness: Yesterday my Ubuntu 8.04 system blocked access to all GUI objects except the current window (but not even its menu bar) - as I could still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 I found tail /var/log/messages  to hold several intermittent entries of  "SetGrabKeysState - disabled" and "SetGrabKeysState - enabled". After a reboot, the mystery continues with the numeric block being ignored (though NumLock can be turned on and
[07:14] <TEN> Does anyone have an idea what could be causing these symptoms?
[07:15] <Daniel_2> Now if i use Wubi, will i still be able to run Ubuntu without starting up windows?
[07:15] <Ahadiel> Daniel_2, Yes, Wubi just makes use of the Windows Bootloader.
[07:15] <Daniel_2> Ahadiel, thanks
[07:15] <LitomoSilver> Indeed, Daniel_2.
[07:16] <Vegombrei> what is 64 Studio 2.0 VMWare Virtual Machine .. can i use this software to boot another operating system virtually ?
[07:16] <LitomoSilver> Though, if you do install Ubuntu AFTER installing via Wubi, it uses its own bootloader instead.
[07:16] <Daniel_2> thanks everyone.  Hopefully i'll get it right.
[07:16] <LitomoSilver> We're all novices at one point or another. :P
[07:17] <nickrud> Vegombrei based on the name, I'd guess it's an image of ubuntu studio you can run inside of vmware
[07:17] <dunnen> except chuck norris
[07:17] <Daniel_2> That we are. Now if any of you ever need help with Windows or a Legal Problem within the U.S. 50, just ask for what I can do! lol
[07:17]  * nickrud eyes dunnen