[00:00] <Belial`> does anyone have a problem with rekonq not blocking ads?
[00:05] <medionpal> hi
[00:05] <medionpal> I just installed kubuntu on my ubuntu 10.04 system and really like it. however when I go to firefox the fonts look so "pixelated", not so rounded as in gnome. it is tiring for the eyes, how can I change this
[00:17] <medionpal> how can I get rid of the pixelated appearance in kde, in gnome on the same pc it looks nice
[00:19] <Fluttershy> your font antialiasing is probably turned off
[00:22] <medionpal> no it is turned on... k3b looks relatively smooth though. firefox looks very pixelated.. gives me a headache
[00:23] <medionpal> hmmm turned on subpixel rendering, it looks better now
[00:25] <Cammy> When I pulled my video card out and booted into Kubuntu with the internal VGA, although it still came up in the same resolution (1360x768) all the fonts were microscopic, and unreadable
[00:25] <Cammy> And I don't think the font settings were any different
[00:28] <medionpal> mine were huge.. changed that
[00:29] <medionpal> thanks dudes
[00:35] <ZeDingo> finally got minecraft to run enough to give a crash report
[00:35] <ZeDingo> SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb76f6416, pid=3325, tid=1788697456
[00:35] <ZeDingo> no idea what a sigsegv is, though
[01:23] <ZeDingo> !java
[01:23] <ZeDingo> !partner
[01:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> dbus-daemon is suddenly using a lot of CPU, and I have no idea why?
[01:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> it also appears I am unable to launch konsole
[01:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> though it is running according to system monitor
[01:44] <Tri-Edge> Is anyone having issues with CPU overheating in Kubuntu?
[01:48] <Codenomics> i guess he is
[01:51] <unhao> anyone knows a xxx passwords channel?
[01:52] <genii-around> !illegal | unhao
[01:54] <Codenomics> ok looks like mint has failed as my ftp server, lets see how kubuntu does
[01:56] <Codenomics> OK so question... installed kubuntu is running very smoothly and I am happy so far... but during installation, it was the most unusable livecd I have ever seen!
[01:56] <Codenomics> is this normal? or just something funky with my machine?
[01:56] <Codenomics> took me almost an hour to install
[01:58] <MK``> It's just one of those installers
[01:59] <Codenomics> that is normal?
[02:18] <Codenomics> MK``: i just ran it on another machine, and it is nothing like it was before
[02:21] <MK``> Ah, might be the machine then
[02:23] <Codenomics> boot time on this machine now is amazing
[02:25] <preecher> dont know how/why but on my end kubuntu runs & opens everything faster than ubuntu & even xubuntu plus its very nice on the eyes!!!
[03:13] <Keshl> preecher: Simple. KDE is much epicier than a Garden Variety GNOME, and doesn't look like a Labrat (XFCE's logo) ;). Plus it has a dragon. Dragons make it epic automatically. <.<
[03:24] <srladd> Damned right. Dragons are always epic
[03:25] <Keshl> Me learning Linux when I was twelve, using Debian in a shell: Meh...
[03:25] <Keshl> Me, using Backtrack 2, which has dragons everywhere: I wanna learn Linux OwO!
[05:20] <Codenomics> quick question... what is the command to turn off x and just run the machine in CLI?
[05:27] <Codenomics> ok then
[05:28] <lsv> Codenomics: I really don't know but you could use " Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6] "
[05:29] <lsv> Codenomics: where F[1-6] is any of the F1, F2, ... , F6 keys
[05:30] <Codenomics> lsv: those will just kick me to another shell
[05:30] <Codenomics> I want to kill x and save some power
[05:30] <Codenomics> it is a makeshift server, doesnt really need x right now
[05:34] <lsv> Codenomics: how about " kill -9 $(pidof X) ", I think this will just kill X, not sure if it would break anything..
[05:34] <lsv> I would try it somewhere safe first
[05:35] <lsv> let me try it on my laptop
[05:37] <Codenomics> oh yeah... didint think of that
[05:37] <Codenomics> dont seem safe for some reason though
[05:37] <lsv> Codenomics: that just restarted X
[05:37] <lsv> and you needed to be sudo
[05:37] <Codenomics> makes sense
[05:37] <Codenomics> i will live lol
[05:38] <lsv> haha, I will ask on the ubuntu channel
[05:38] <Codenomics> eventually I will figure it out, aint a server that is getting used that much so it aint really going to hurt anything
[05:39] <yofel> the 'proper' way to shutdown X is 'sudo service kdm stop'
[05:39] <lsv> that looks right, what if I'm using gnome?
[05:40] <lsv> just change kdm to gnome?
[05:40] <yofel> then gdm
[05:40] <yofel> to prevent it from starting at boot, in natty you can run 'echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/kdm.conf.override' I think
[05:45] <lsv> some one in the ubuntu channel sugested " sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop "
[05:45] <yofel> that's deprecated
[05:45] <yofel> it still works though
[05:46] <lsv> they look similar
[05:47] <yofel> it's the sys-v-init way to stop it, but gdm is an upstart service now so it just works since upstart provides fallback links for this purpose
[05:47] <yofel> back in jaunty /etc/init.d/gdm stop was the right way to stop it
[05:54] <lsv> yofel: is there any way of making ubuntu boot to a terminal instead of X?
[05:57] <yofel> I'm not sure how that is done on the server system, but disabling the kdm service will prevent X from starting at least
[05:58] <yofel> try 'echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/kdm.conf.override' - if it still starts rename the service to kdm.conf.disabled
[05:59] <lsv> I see, thank you very much
[06:05] <Kroft> Hello everyone.
[06:05] <Kroft> I have a question.
[06:06] <Kroft> Is there ANY way possible to get updates for Kubuntu 8.10?
[06:08] <Fluttershy> nothing official
[06:10] <Kroft> I cannot STAND the new distros. I have had nothing but issues with them,
[06:10] <Kroft> Is Hardy still supported?
[06:11] <Kroft> Nvm, it's support ended this month... I should have installed it sooner.
[06:28] <ilias> hi all. could u plz advise me how can i find if the system (10.04) didected my winmodem?
[06:51] <NishaKitten> guys does anyone happen to know if konversation supports SASL?
[08:15] <akis> hi all. could plz advise me how can i check if the system (10.04) has detected my plug-on motherboard winmodem?
[08:16] <ikonia> try to configure the modem
[08:16] <ikonia> winmodems are never good though
[08:22] <akis> @ikonia. i know that winmodems aren't friendly to linux, but i am wondering if the system detected automaticaly. how can i check it? how can i configure it? what is the procedure?
[08:26] <tsimpson> !modem | akis
[08:27] <akis> @ubottu. i want to setup a fax, if possible.
[08:28] <ecinx> I havent been able to use my kubuntu box for over a month it broke when i tried to upgrade to natty when it was released.. windows 7 works on this computer though.. and right now im on a live cd of fedora.
[09:56] <gr> hi all. how can i unistall firefox from my system 10.04?
[09:58] <jussi> gr: open system -> kapackagekit. (software management) -> search for firefox -> click it -> click remove.
[09:59] <jussi> gr: or alternately, open konsole and type: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[10:00] <gr> is this procedure enough for a fully complete remove? do i have manually to remove any directory from my /home? is it the same procedure the appropriate to remove opera too?
[10:05] <Belial> gr, replace remove with purge if you want a complete removal, from memory, firefox settings live in ~/.mozilla
[10:18] <gr> ok. thanks. can i do the same with opera?
[10:21] <XVampireX> Hi
[10:22] <Peace-> hi XVampireX
[10:32] <bios__> привет
[10:33] <bios__> Hello
[10:33] <bios__> help my
[10:33] <Peace-> bios__: hi
[10:33] <Peace-> bios__: russian?
[10:33] <bios__> Ua or rus lenguage
[10:34] <bios__> understend&
[10:34] <Peace-> !ru | bios__
[10:34] <bios__> Peace no not ubuntu, in kubuntu
[10:35] <bios__> no ubuntu
[10:35] <bios__> kubuntu
[10:35] <Tm_T> Kubuntu is Ubuntu (:
[10:36] <Peace-> bios__: so...what's your problem with kubuntu ?
[10:37] <bios__> Yes, but I question applies only to kubuntu I have problems with the picture.
[10:38] <bios__> у мене полоски на екрані, скажіть куди мені завантажити малюнок із зображенням робочого столу?
[10:38] <bios__> I have bars on the screen, tell me where to download the picture with the image of your desktop?
[10:39] <bios__> understand what I write, whether the translator translates very badly translated?
[10:59] <coder27> Hello. My display goes into suspend state after some time of idle. How to disable it? I've switched off screensaver, display power options, but it continues switching off.
[11:50] <amichair> I've just run the upgrade from maverick to natty, and got an error at the end. The apt.log file's last lines say an error with flash plugin - but how can I tell if there is anything else that was supposed to run after it? cleanup? finish upgrade? any way to resume it?
[11:51] <amichair> how do I recover the upgrade to a consistent state?
[11:52] <Peace-> amichair: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:54] <amichair> Peace-: there's a segmentation fault followed by a dpkg error processing nspluginwrapper --configure (and cascading errors follow)
[11:54] <Peace-> ok wait a second
[11:55] <Peace-> amichair: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:55] <Peace-> amichair: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[11:55] <amichair> Peace-: same result
[11:55] <Peace-> amichair: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[11:55] <amichair> the first half gives the same error
[11:56] <Peace-> amichair: paste the error
[11:56] <Peace-> !paste
[11:57] <amichair> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612684/
[11:58] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove nspluginwrapper  flashplugin-installer  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:58] <Peace-> amichair:
[11:59] <amichair> ok, that seemed to work
[11:59] <amichair> now reinstall the installer?
[11:59] <Peace-> wait
[11:59] <Peace-> amichair: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:59] <amichair> nothing to do (and 1 not upgraded) and a whole much that are no longer required
[12:00] <Peace-> amichair: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <amichair> yelp has been kept back, nothing else to do
[12:01] <Peace-> well it should be fixed
[12:01] <Peace-> try to install   nspluginwrapper
[12:01] <Peace-> then for flash
[12:01] <amichair> does that mean the whole installation+configuration went ok except that single flash hickup?
[12:01] <Peace-> ...
[12:01] <amichair> hiccup, that is
[12:02] <amichair> I think :-)
[12:03] <amichair> ok, installing just flashplugin-installer (wrapper is a dependency) - same error
[12:03] <amichair> Peace-: should I do the autoremove and reboot first? is everything else ok?
[12:03] <amichair> what else does the installer do? apt-get dist-upgrade and autoremove and that's it? or does it do other stuff too?
[12:12] <amichair> Peace-: thanks in any case, I'll try rebooting and hope for the best
[12:13] <amichair> btw there is bug #780678, seems like it's it (not fixed yet)
[12:14] <Peace-> amichair: wait
[12:15] <Peace-> !upgrade
[12:18] <amichair> Peace-: hehe, missed by a second - but I'm back after restart, so the upgrade didn't completely break :-)
[12:20] <Peace-> amichair: well
[12:20] <Peace-> it's luck
[12:20] <amichair> upgrading ubuntu always is :-P
[12:21] <Peace-> amichair: the next time you have to redo what you did to upgrade
[12:21] <Peace-> to be sure
[12:21] <amichair> what do you mean?
[12:21] <Peace-> amichair: what did you do to upgradE?
[12:21] <amichair> clicked it from kpk
[12:21] <amichair> I recall it being non-reentrant (i.e., if it fails, you can't start it over)
[12:22] <Peace-> sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:22] <amichair> no new release found (it already changed the current release)
[12:22] <Peace-> dpkg -s kubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <amichair> Package `kubuntu-desktop' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:26] <Peace-> dpkg -s konsole
[12:27] <BajK> any idea why POlicykit does not remember ANY authorization in Natty anmore?
[12:27] <BajK> For example: In KPackagekit I install a package, enter my password and tick "Remember authorization", then I recognize I forgot something and install another packge: ANd it asks for a package AGAIN
[12:27] <BajK> for a password
[12:27] <BajK> and also it asks when upgrading packages
[12:28] <Peace-> BajK: it depends from time
[12:28] <Peace-> if you wait too much it's normal it asks for passwrod
[12:28] <BajK> I know but it is instantly
[12:28] <amichair> Peace-: konsole installed ok, 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1
[12:28] <BajK> right afterthe installation si done I install another one
[12:28] <BajK> bam, password again
[12:29] <Peace-> BajK: it's not normal then
[12:29] <BajK> this behavior is new in Natty, reproducible on all my machines. Maverick at least remembered that
[12:29] <Peace-> BajK: fresh installation ?
[12:29] <BajK> yes
[12:29] <Peace-> BajK: fresh user?
[12:29] <BajK> on all three PCs
[12:29] <BajK> Peace-: on my machine, yes
[12:29] <BajK> on the others not
[12:29] <BajK> but it shows that behavior on all machines
[12:29] <Peace-> nope man you did something of worng to your system
[12:29] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[12:30] <BajK> On my machine: Complete fresh install. Formatted / and /home and installed Kubuntu using a 64 bit iso
[12:30] <BajK> On notebok: Formatted / and installed it there
[12:30] <BajK> ON mom's pc: Formatted / and installed it there
[12:30] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[12:30] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[12:30] <BajK> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 11.04 Release: 11.04 Codename: natty
[12:31] <Peace-> BajK: sudo adduser $USER admin
[12:31] <BajK> I am already member of the group admin
[12:32] <Peace-> BajK: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <BajK> that would install dragonplayer (which sucks), plasma-widget-facebook (I HATE FACEBOOK), pulseaudio-module-bluetooth (which I dont have), smbclient (which I dont use) so I dont see a point in that
[12:33] <Peace-> BajK: ok , solve your problem byt yourself
[12:33] <juhde> I can't get my wifi going, It works fine during the installation process, but once I reboot it's gone. HP laptop, maybe I need to modprob but I can't remember which modual to install. Any ideas?
[12:33] <Peace-> juhde: lspci | grep -i Network
[12:33] <BajK> Peace-: and any idea how I can cnfigure Policykit? So that I can grant me rights to update packages without password?
[12:33] <Peace-> BajK: on settings of kpakcagekit
[12:34] <Peace-> BajK: but i don't trust you , the system has been messed up
[12:34] <Peace-> if you have that problem
[12:34] <BajK> in the settings of kpackagekit? o.O
[12:34] <BajK> if you call a frresh install "messed up", okay..
[12:35] <BajK> I told them, the Kubuntu installer sucks, but they didnt believe me..^^
[12:35] <Peace-> BajK: fresh installation with fresh users can not be messed up
[12:35] <Peace-> BajK: nope kubuntu isntaller works fine
[12:35] <Peace-> .
[12:35] <BajK> but it is in the category "Usability #FAIL"
[12:35] <juhde> Peace: outputs (standard input) :/
[12:35] <Peace-> BajK: ok
[12:36] <BajK> it is a fresh installation, with a fresh root partition and fresh home partition and a fresh user. the only things that are from my old system are the folders Pictures, Music, Video etc which I symlinked from the old partition
[12:36] <Peace-> juhde: ??
[12:36] <BajK> and I added some extra software such as virtualbox, chromium and stuff like that
[12:36] <juhde> Peace: sorry, I miss read, always copy and past
[12:36] <juhde> *paste
[12:36] <juhde> lol
[12:36] <juhde> 2:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[12:36] <Peace-> ok you have a broadcm
[12:36] <Peace-> juhde: lsmod | grep b43
[12:37] <juhde> nothing
[12:38] <Peace-> BajK: well i did the fresh installation , and i can install like before. this mean it's your settings fault
[12:38] <BajK> as I said: i did not change any crucial settings beside background picture :D
[12:38] <juhde> Peace: no returns
[12:38] <Peace-> juhde: ok
[12:38] <BajK> and there is no good documentation for policykit either
[12:41] <Peace-> juhde: your card can work
[12:41] <juhde> Peace: I know it can, it worked during install lol
[12:41] <juhde> :)
[12:42] <Peace-> juhde: jockey-kde
[12:42] <Peace-> run it
[12:43] <juhde> Peace: driver installation failed
[12:43] <Peace-> juhde: ok ...
[12:43] <Peace-> juhde: could you install these ?
[12:44] <Peace-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:44] <Peace-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/bcmwl-modaliases
[12:44] <Peace-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/b43-fwcutter
[12:44] <amichair> Peace-: is there anything I need to do to complete (or redo?) natty upgrade?
[12:44] <Peace-> !upgrade | amichair
[12:47] <Peace-> juhde: i guess if you have a ethernet it should be sudo apt-get install  b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:47] <juhde> i'm on ethernet now
[12:48] <juhde> looks like most of those pack are already installed
[12:48] <amichair> Peace-: I didn't find anything in the docs about completing a failed upgrade
[12:48] <James147> amichair: if the sources now point to the natty repos just do "sudo apt-get upgrade &&& sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:49] <James147> amichair: if they still point to maverick then rerun the upgrader
[12:49] <Peace-> juhde: you did this ?    sudo apt-get install  b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:49] <amichair> Peace-: and once that completes ok (other than the flash thing),  the system is in an equivalent state to if the upgrader completed successfully in the first place?
[12:49] <juhde> just did
[12:50] <Peace-> juhde: ok , try again with jockey-kde
[12:50] <amichair> Peace-: well apt-get autoremove too, but other than that?
[12:50] <juhde> Peace: failed again
[12:50] <James147> amichair: ^^ and that :) apt-get  [auto]clean   can also be done but that dosnt matter
[12:51] <Peace-> amichair: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep natty
[12:51] <Peace-> amichair: if you can see natty you can do like James147 said
[12:51] <Peace-> amichair: if not you have a problem
[12:51] <Peace-> xD
[12:51] <amichair> yes, it's on natty
[12:52] <Peace-> amichair: ok just do like James147 said
[12:52] <Peace-> btw
[12:52] <Peace-> flash can be installed in a manual way
[12:52] <Peace-> like i did
[12:53] <amichair> to recap: upgrade process got near the end, then failed with error because of flash plugin wrapper thing. I uninstalled it, did a update&dist-upgrade&autoremove, and rebooted. Anything else needs to be done for a prestine state?
[12:54] <BajK> Peace-: I have found the reason
[12:54] <amichair> and as for Peace- 's previous question, kubuntu-desktop package appears to NOT be installed. Is this a new Natty thing?
[12:54] <BajK> there is no such value "auth_admin_keep" it's "auth_admin_keep_always"
[12:54] <Peace-> amichair: nope
[12:54] <juhde> Peace-: don't know if you saw, but it failed to install, again.
[12:54] <James147> amichair: you should install kubuntu-desktop is it isent
[12:55] <Peace-> !broadcom | juhde
[12:55] <juhde> Peace-: dunno if this matters or not, but it works perfectly on the 64bit install.......
[12:55] <amichair> James147, Peace-: is that proof that the upgrade did not, in fact, complete ok, and there might be other stuff missing?
[12:55] <Peace-> juhde: threre are 2 driver , open + firmware , ndiswarpper closed
[12:55] <Peace-> juhde: you should use open+firmware
[12:56] <Peace-> juhde: firware muyst be extracted or your card doesn't work
[12:56] <amichair> why would it not upgrade kubuntu-desktop, and also not report an error, and also not keep the previous version?
[12:56] <James147> amichair: also you apt-get autoclean to crear up some space (removed unneeded .deb archives)
[12:56] <Peace-> juhde: basically i guess you need to extract the firwmare
[12:56] <amichair> James147: yeah, I'll do that when the dust settles
[12:56] <James147> amichair: kubuntu-desktop should pull in anything you might be missing (except stuff you manually installed)
[12:57] <amichair> James147: what about non-kde packages? can they be missing too?
[12:57] <James147> amichair: if you manually installed them then its unlikly... and not much to worry about, just reinstall when you find they are missing
[12:58] <amichair> it kind of sucks that a single error during upgrade causes the whole thing to break - it could continue trying (or give an option to), and at the end show which packages failed (only one non-critical one, in my case)
[12:58] <juhde> Peace-: who do I write so I can say "Why work during install but now work after??" lol
[12:58] <juhde> eek *no
[12:58] <Peace-> juhde: i can't figure out
[12:58] <Peace-> there are a lots of maybe
[12:59] <Peace-> btw
[12:59] <James147> amichair: I think its a little more complicated then that
[12:59] <juhde> Peace-: just doesn't make sense, 64bit install, works like a charm, during 32bit installation process, works like a charm,
[13:00] <Peace-> juhde: if a wifi card doesn't work = driver issue
[13:00] <Peace-> driver issue ==> lsmod | grep NAMEOFDRIVER
[13:00] <juhde> Peace-: But it DOES work, I sat there and watched it download updates during my installation process....
[13:00] <juhde> lol
[13:00] <Peace-> if it is loaded and it doesn't work [13:01] <amichair> James147: not in this case, I think (and likely many others). A bug in one package with no critical dependencies, if at all, doesn't have to abort the upgrade (which leavse the system in a far worse unstable half-upgraded state)
[13:01] <Peace-> i have to go now
[13:01] <Peace-> bye
[13:01] <amichair> Peace-: thanks for your help :-)
[13:02] <juhde> thanks Peace-
[13:10] <amichair> !libreoffice
[13:19] <amichair> ^^ that seems to be out of date, no?
[13:25] <amichair> what is the default natty desktop theme? oxygen?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:05] <amichair> hey BluesKaj
[14:06] <BluesKaj> hi amichair
[14:06] <amichair> how do I apply the default kubuntu colors and themes?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> ami open sustem settings/application appearance / choes the defaults for each category
[14:09] <BluesKaj> amichair,^
[14:09] <BluesKaj> choose
[14:10] <BluesKaj> same goes for worskpace appearance
[14:11] <amichair> the desktop theme doesn't seem to change when pressing defaults (no matter what's selected)
[14:12] <amichair> which should be the default (natty)?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> amichair, dunno ,maybe www.kde-look.org will tell you
[14:27] <Masaniello> i have a problem with samba
[14:28]  * genii-around sips his coffee and awaits more details of this vague problem
[14:31] <chuckf> genii-around: keep waiting as I don't think Masaniello got the subtle clue
[14:33] <Masaniello> i can't share the ntfs partition in the network
[14:34] <Masaniello> i install ntfs - 3g
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, on the same drive ?
[14:36] <Masaniello> it is an intern hard drive
[14:37] <Masaniello> /dev/sdb1 ntfs
[14:37] <Masaniello> ata maxtor
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[14:39] <Masaniello> it is automatically mont when kubuntu starts
[14:42] <amichair> Masaniello: Is your problem with ntfs or with samba? Those are two different things.
[14:43] <Masaniello> only with nfts partition
[14:43] <Masaniello> i can't open the files in network
[14:43] <amichair> Masaniello: can you access the files locally (from the same computer)?
[14:43] <Masaniello> yes
[14:43] <Masaniello> i can
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1
[14:44] <amichair> Masaniello: are both computers running kubuntu?
[14:44] <Masaniello> yes
[14:44] <Masaniello> kubuntu is running
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, that last command gives you read & write permissions
[14:44] <amichair> Masaniello: can you access the shares locally but through samba?
[14:45] <Masaniello> francesco@francesco-Kubuntu:~$ mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1
[14:45] <Masaniello> mount is possible only for root
[14:46] <BluesKaj> mas then use sudo
[14:47] <amichair> it sounds to me like he has problems with the samba client, not with ntfs mounting - is this correct?
[14:48] <Masaniello> yes it's correct
[14:49] <amichair> Masaniello: on the same pc with the shares, if you open dolphin and go to smb:/ you can see the shared folders (down the workgroup tree)?
[14:49] <Masaniello> i can access in the network only to my home but itìs impossible to access to other drive
[14:50] <amichair> Masaniello: so you want to share two different folders (home and one on a different drive), but only one works? I'm not sure I understand what the problem is exactly
[14:51] <Masaniello> no i can't access from the same pc
[14:51] <Masaniello> it wants the username and password
[14:52] <Masaniello> yes amichair the problem is this
[14:53] <nbnds> is there an icon set which looks like kde 3?
[14:53] <Masaniello> home works perfectly
[14:53] <Masaniello> ntfs doesn't work
[14:53] <BluesKaj> nbnds, look in www.kde-look.org
[14:53] <nbnds> ty, BluesKaj
[14:54] <BluesKaj> samba isn't reqiured for mounting a ntfs partition, afaik
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, what does root in dolphin do when you open media ?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, open dolphin choose root . then the media icon
[14:58] <amichair> Masaniello: can you access the share in dolphin without samba (just on the local disk) ok? the problem is just when you try accessing the same share through smb:/ ? and then it does show up, but ask for a password? is this the problem?
[14:58] <Masaniello> Blueskay: i just try to open with root this but i have the same problem
[14:58] <BluesKaj> amichair, yeah methinks
[14:59] <amichair> ok, then it sounds to me unrelated to ntfs or to mounting, just samba permissions
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, is the data there encrypted ?
[14:59] <amichair> Masaniello: is the samba share configured to support anonymous/guest users?
[14:59] <Masaniello> Amichair: in the same pc it wants the password but in the network it is impossible to access
[14:59] <BluesKaj> just permissions
[15:00] <Masaniello> permission and username
[15:00] <amichair> Masaniello: ah, ok. and both are problems, or is the password supposed to be there in your scenario?
[15:01] <Masaniello> blueskaY:encrypted?i don't know?
[15:01] <amichair> Masaniello: so over the network you don't see the share at all over samba? does the host show up at all?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> genii-around, any ideas about this ?
[15:02] <amichair> Masaniello: also, do you have a firewall setup on either machine? and can you access the share over network when using the ip address instead of host name?
[15:02] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Most likely the mount options
[15:02] <Masaniello> i must install samba 4?
[15:02] <Masaniello> i have not a firewall
[15:02] <genii-around> Work needs me a lot this morning, apologies
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ok genii-around , work is first :)
[15:04] <Masaniello> yes i can access from the macbook to the kubuntu only usyng ip adress
[15:05] <amichair> Masaniello: macbook? you said earlier you're working with client and server both running kubuntu
[15:06] <Masaniello> the share is between macbook and kubuntu
[15:07] <Masaniello> ntfs drive is on kubuntu
[15:07] <Masaniello> from macbook i can't access to ntfs drive
[15:07] <Masaniello> but i can access to home
[15:07] <amichair> Masaniello: ok, and everything works ok with ip address, so the only problem now is resolving the host name?
[15:08] <amichair> Masaniello: when you say "the home", you mean the kubuntu user's home folder?
[15:08] <amichair> Masaniello: sorry for all the questions, I'm finding it hard to understand what exactly the symptoms are
[15:08] <Masaniello> yes
[15:08] <Masaniello> yes
[15:08] <Masaniello> no problem
[15:08] <Masaniello> sorry for my english
[15:09] <Masaniello> with ip adress works only home floder
[15:10] <amichair> and with host name nothing works?
[15:10] <Masaniello> no
[15:10] <iomari> greetings, when booting 11.04, the last startup process says  "Starting configure network device     [OK]" then if just freezes. This also happens on kubuntu 11.04.
[15:10] <Masaniello> with host name doesn't work
[15:11] <amichair> Masaniello: to fix hostname issue, you might need to install winbind and add "wins" to the "hosts" line in /etc/nsswitch.conf (maybe just before dns, but I'm not sure)
[15:11] <iomari> s /then if/then it
[15:11] <Masaniello> winbind?
[15:12] <Masaniello> i try now
[15:12] <Masaniello> i had just installed winbind
[15:12] <Masaniello> winbind is installed
[15:13] <amichair> Masaniello: as for the other issue: can you access the other share (a folder on an ntfs partition, if I understood) locally in dolphin? can you access it locally via smb? what exactly does and doesn't work with it?
[15:15] <Masaniello> In the share samba i added the ntfs partition and i give the allowed to write and read but doesn't work
[15:17] <amichair> Masaniello: can you try sharing just a folder under the partition, instead of the root of the partition?
[15:17] <amichair> Masaniello: by the way, if you upgraded to natty (11.04), you can install kdenetwork-filesharing and use right-click properties to configure samba sharing easily, or so I hear
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Masaniello, is windows on the ntfs partition or is it just data storage ?
[15:17] <amichair> (I'm just trying kdenetwork-filesharing myself)
[15:17] <Masaniello> no
[15:18] <Masaniello> it is a data storage
[15:19] <Masaniello> with kdenetwork filesharing i try but it is impossible to change the permission of write or read
[15:19] <amichair> I just found out my natty upgrade from a couple hours ago killed my samba service too :-(
[15:20] <amichair> Masaniello: try sharing a folder under the partition root, if I remember correctly you can only share a folder
[15:20] <amichair> not the partition root itself
[15:21] <Masaniello> yes..i can share only a folder home
[15:22] <amichair> Masaniello: what is the exact path you're trying to share?
[15:24] <Masaniello> /media/volume
[15:24] <Masaniello> /dev/db1
[15:24] <amichair> Masaniello: ok, try sharing a folder under that, for example /media/volume/somefolder (whichever you have there)
[15:24] <Masaniello> ok
[15:24] <Masaniello> one moment
[15:25] <Masaniello> uauuuuhhhh
[15:25] <Masaniello> works
[15:26] <amichair> Masaniello: so that's the other problem, but it's not specific to you. It's just not possible to share a device's root, only the folders under it.
[15:27] <Masaniello> exactly
[15:27] <amichair> Masaniello: did we cover everything? is there any problem left?
[15:27] <Masaniello> do you can help me with print
[15:27] <Masaniello> i have the same problem
[15:28] <amichair> Masaniello: I don't have much experience with printing configurations... maybe BluesKaj can help you there :-)
[15:28] <Masaniello> ok
[15:28] <Masaniello> ok
[15:28] <Masaniello> stop for today
[15:28] <Masaniello> àthnak you very much
[15:28] <Masaniello> ciao ciao a tutti
[15:28] <Masaniello> by by
[15:28] <amichair> Masaniello: good luck!
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !cookie | amichair
[15:29] <amichair> BluesKaj: right back at'cha :-)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying to get my head around how he could share a folder under root but couldn't access the rrot partition :)
[15:32] <amichair> it's an inherent limitation, afaik, only actual folders can be shared
[15:33] <arved> hi, asking again, anyone got an idea: i upgraded to natty and now i can not access the Network from KDE applications, wireshark does not show a single packet
[15:42] <hateball> If I boot my laptop on battery rather than AC, I get no sound. "sudo alsa reload" does nothing, I have to reboot with AC plugged in for sound to work again
[15:42] <hateball> after that I can pull the plug and audio will still work
[15:42] <hateball> I cant see any settings for powersaving that should affect audio
[16:00] <ilias> hi all. i want to use "apt-get autoremove" command to remove some packaged that are not required after i remove opera, but the system cannot execute the command asking me if i am root. what should i do to proceed with tis removal?
[16:00] <amichair> ilias: to run commands as root, prepend 'sudo ' (with space) before the command you want to run
[16:01] <amichair> ilias: it will ask you for your password (not anyone can run commands as root...) and then run the command as root
[16:01] <amichair> ilias: so in your case, "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[16:02] <ilias> ok. thanks for advise. already done succesfully.
[16:04] <ilias> does the command sudo apt-get purge "package" removes absolutely everything or still there are left files?
[16:04] <amichair> ilias: it should remove everything used exclusively by that package, but if there are libraries it depends on that are used by other packages too, they should stay behind
[16:06] <BluesKaj> purge removes the package and it's config files , remove just deltes the package but leaves the config files behind which are reimplemented if you reinstall the package at a later date
[16:07] <BluesKaj> config files == settings
[16:07] <ilias> its logical other libraries used by other packaged to stay behind. that is clear.is manually remove from /home enough to delete package's preferences?
[16:07] <hateball> Purge only removes systemwide settings, e.g in /etc, not the ~/.whatever
[16:08] <amichair> ilias: some packages (mostly user apps) store preferences in user's home folder, but other packages have system-wide configurations (e.g. in /etc)
[16:10] <ilias> mozilla and opera prefer only /home or they store also in other dirs too?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> I installed a small utility to save my alsamixer settings , but my memory now fails me ... not the alsactl store command
[16:13] <amichair> ilias: I don't know for sure. FF definitely stores per-user data in the home folder (~/.mozilla), but there are some files in /usr/share too - I don't know if they also contain default preferences or such (but are unlikely ever modified)
[16:19] <ilias> thanks for advises
[16:19] <amichair> ilias: cheers
[16:22] <grawcho> dose anyone know when will KDE 4.7 beta be available for debian intallation or what ppa is it linked to ?
[16:22] <Krepta3k> Hello
[16:22] <ilias> there are 2 dirs of firefox in /etc and /usr/share but they must came with kubuntu because the creation date is the same with all the other system date and the almost empty (only one file is in them)
[16:22] <grawcho> it's allready out for  open-Suse and Gentoo
[16:22] <Krepta3k> I need help... anyone here on ubuntu forums at all?
[16:23] <grawcho> i want my 4.7 beta on kubuntu?
[16:26] <ilias> !modem
[16:27] <Krepta3k> cool bot
[16:27] <Krepta3k> Please help.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10860701#post10860701
[16:28] <ilias> is there any application in kubuntu 10.04 to help me explore the hardware of my system?
[16:28] <yofel> grawcho: 4.7 beta will be delayed in kubuntu, various reasons
[16:28] <grawcho> yofel: 10x
[16:28] <amichair> ilias: kinfocenter?
[16:28] <grawcho> i'll wait reluctantly :(
[16:29] <sunci> tud valaki esetleg magyarul? :)
[16:29] <guest_> Krepta3k: the live cd password is blank imo
[16:30] <ilias> i cannot find it in system menu
[16:30] <Krepta3k> so, I type "blank" and it will run GParted?
[16:30] <sunci> Do yout speak hungaryan anybudy?
[16:30] <amichair> ilias: I have it there, don't remember if I installed it or it's there by default (I thought it was default)
[16:30] <guest_> Krepta3k: blank means nothing to type
[16:30] <Krepta3k> no, sorry sunci
[16:30] <amichair> !hu
[16:31] <Krepta3k> guest_ that doesn't work, obviously I've tried that.
[16:31] <sunci> ubottu thank you :)
[16:31] <sunci> uuuup sorry :P
[16:31] <yofel> Krepta3k: live cd password is 'ubuntu'
[16:31] <sunci> bye
[16:31] <Krepta3k> Thanks! :)
[16:32] <ilias> must be there by default but it is not in my menu and as far i can remember i didn't erase it usinf menu editor
[16:32] <Krepta3k> dangit, it didn't work, said it was wrong password
[16:32] <Krepta3k> I typed ubuntu, it won't take.
[16:34] <Krepta3k> I just wish I had a power supply to run the xp disk externally and boot my linux HD.  It's got the tools I need, that work properly.  For some reason this Live CD is being stupid. :(
[16:34] <yofel> why do you need the password again?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> kre try kubuntu
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Krepta3k,
[16:34] <Krepta3k> I'm trying to clean/fix my xp hd, with a live cd of kubuntu 10.10
[16:35] <Krepta3k> And GParted just won't run without the right password, and nothing I put in is right.
[16:35] <amichair> I thought in the livecd there is no password necessary
[16:35] <BluesKaj> gparted livecd ?
[16:35] <guest_> that's what I said ^^
[16:35] <Krepta3k> gparted installed after running kubuntu 10.10 live cd
[16:36] <BluesKaj> no Krepta3k you can
[16:36] <Krepta3k> I know, it shouldn't need one, but for some reason it won't run without it
[16:36] <BluesKaj> can't
[16:36] <yofel> usually it shouldn't ask for one, right, can you open konsole and run 'kdesudo gparted' from there?
[16:37] <amichair> yofel: isn't it gksudo?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> kdesudo on kubuntu
[16:37] <guest_> amichair: this is kubuntu
[16:38] <jcgs> hi :) does anyone know how to burn a dvd from an mp4 file?
[16:38] <Krepta3k> no kdesudo installed... installing kdesudo
[16:38] <amichair> but gparted is gtk and needs gksudo, no? I thought only qt/kde apps use kdesudo
[16:38] <yofel> Krepta3k: are you in gnome or kde?
[16:38] <amichair> if he was using qparted, that would be another story :-)
[16:38] <Krepta3k> kde 4
[16:38] <yofel> amichair: it's just sudo with a GUI, doesn't really matter which one you use
[16:38] <ilias> amichair: could u plz help me to find kinfocenter?
[16:38] <Krepta3k> Oh, it's installed, just mistyped.  It's running
[16:39] <Krepta3k> Thank You!!! :)
[16:39] <amichair> yofel: they use different keyrings, and some other stuff might differ - though if it works, it works
[16:39]  * BluesKaj thinks the gparted live cd is best , the OS live cd is ok but it's somewhat confusing
[16:39] <amichair> or maybe I'm wrong
[16:39] <yofel> dunno, I never noticed a difference at least
[16:39] <axtra> Hey everyone
[16:40] <axtra> Anybody able to help me with a WiFi problem?
[16:40] <amichair> ilias: you can try 'sudo apt-get install kinfocenter'
[16:40] <yofel> ilias: maybe it's not installed, check it in kpackagekit (system settings -> add/remove software)
[16:40] <ilias> i ll try sudo apt-get install kinfocenter
[16:41] <axtra> I can connect to the wireless at my house, which is a WPA network, but I'm at my friend's house, and i can't connect to their network - which is a WEP network
[16:41] <axtra> I'm using the wired connection at the moment
[16:41] <guest_> yofel: did you just said 4.7 B1 delayed to when?
[16:42] <guest_> *say
[16:42] <ilias> for some reason it wasn't installed. i installed it and now is in system menu.
[16:42] <yofel> not sure till when, we didn't even started with it yet since we need to finish other things first. And since the release layout changed it'll be a bit more work than usual. (Nothing you'll  notice later though)
[16:43] <axtra> Anybody able to help?
[16:43] <guest_> yofel: thanks.  Does neon has something to try?
[16:43] <Peace-> axtra: ?
[16:44] <axtra> Ah, thanks Peace, you joined after I posted my question
[16:44] <axtra> I can connect to the wireless at my house, which is a WPA network, but I'm at my friend's house, and i can't connect to their network - which is a WEP network
[16:44] <axtra> I'm using the wired connection at the moment
[16:44] <yofel> guest_: neon has current kde trunk, which is currently pretty much 4.7b1, so feel free to try it
[16:44] <Peace-> axtra: sudo apt-get install wicd-kde
[16:44] <Peace-> axtra: use that
[16:44] <guest_> yofel: great ty
[16:44] <axtra> Okay, let
[16:44] <axtra> s try that
[16:45] <axtra> Peace: Thank you :)
[16:46] <Peace-> axtra: workde?
[16:46] <Peace-> -.-
[16:46] <Peace-> worked?
[16:46] <axtra> Peace: does it matter that it said "Starting Network Connection manager wicd [Fail]"?
[16:47] <axtra> Do I need to restart first?
[16:47] <Peace-> axtra: mmm
[16:48] <Peace-> fail :)
[16:48] <axtra> Unpacking wicd-kde (from .../wicd-kde_0.2.1-4_i386.deb) ...
[16:48] <axtra> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[16:48] <axtra> Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
[16:48] <axtra> ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[16:48] <axtra> Setting up python-wicd (1.7.0+ds1-6) ...
[16:48] <FloodBotK1> axtra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <axtra> Setting up wicd-daemon (1.7.0+ds1-6) ...
[16:49] <axtra> oops, my bad for flooding
[16:49] <ilias> amichair: i am looking through kinfocenter if system detects my modem. where should be?
[16:49] <ArchangelSe7en> thats one hyper bot
[16:50] <amichair> ilias: I don't know... maybe under Device Viewer?
[16:50] <axtra> Okay, going to try a reboot
[16:53] <ilias> ok. its ok. i 'll search.
[16:56] <axtra> Okay, so Wicd installed
[16:56] <axtra> Still can't seem to connect
[16:56] <axtra> Got an error with Connection failed: Bad password
[16:56] <axtra> I've connected to the network before using Wicd in a BT5 livecd, but I can't seem to connect this way
[17:03] <BluesKaj> exta , which wifi chip ?
[17:06] <axtra> It's a Ralink 2860 card
[17:08] <BluesKaj> axtra, that's on a laptop ?
[17:11] <Grue_> OK... so I am noticing that kubuntu is not going very smoothly on my laptop
[17:11] <Grue_> going in and out of hibernation/suspension is locking things up pretty bad
[17:12] <Grue_> anyone else have these issues?
[17:14] <castellino> hi
[17:14] <preecher> hi
[17:17] <axtra> back
[17:22] <ogzy> hi, i am using 10.04 planning to upgrade to 11.04, any known problems about the upgrade procedure or any review that 11.04 is buggy a lot?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ogzy, laptop or pc?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> axtra, same question
[17:26] <ogzy> BluesKaj: pc
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ogzy, so you doing a clean install from media ?
[17:27] <jcgs> hi
[17:28] <amichair> ogzy: I did an upgrade earlier today, and the flashplugin and its nspluginwrapper crashed and prevented installation from completing successfully
[17:28] <amichair> ogzy: I don't know if it's a common thing or not...
[17:28] <ogzy> amichair: it is not listed as a well-known bug indeed
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ogzy,
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ok nm
[17:29] <amichair> ogzy: also got all sorts of warnings on libreoffice (in maverick it's in a ppa, in natty in the repos - you might need to uninstall the ppa version before upgrade if u have it)
[17:30] <amichair> ogzy: but all in all, upgrade was ok
[17:30] <ogzy> amichair: ok so flashplugin should be removed, i am not using ppa version by the way, was reading here also BluesKaj: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes
[17:30] <ogzy> amichair: so you upgrade to first 10.10 and then to 11.04?
[17:31] <amichair> ogzy: make sure nspluginwrapper is removed to, since it's the one that segfaulted during upgrade
[17:31] <amichair> ogzy: I was already on 10.10, and upgraded to 11.04
[17:31] <ogzy> amichair: ok i will keep it in mind
[17:31] <BluesKaj> that's why I asked about the clean install
[17:32] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i already had 10.04 why should i do a clean install if it is possible to dist-upgrade?
[17:32] <amichair> BluesKaj: good question, though I understood "upgrade procedure" to mean it's not a clean install
[17:33] <BluesKaj> 10.04 to 11.04 is a long upgrade , you need to go to 10.10 in between as amichair  mentioned
[17:34] <ogzy> BluesKaj: ok i will first upgrade to 10.10 adn then to 11.04
[17:34] <BluesKaj> ogzy, it's do-release-upgrade not dist-upgrade now
[17:35] <ogzy> BluesKaj: yes i know i read the upgrade procedure from the wiki
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ogzy, which graphics card in case there are some issues there?
[17:36] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i have nvidia
[17:36] <BluesKaj> pci or integrated?
[17:36] <amichair> ogzy: oh, I remembered another thing - when I upgraded my netbook a while back, desktop effects stopped working (and still don't - on intel chipset)
[17:37] <amichair> I have nvidia 9300 and no problems on desktop
[17:37] <ogzy> BluesKaj: pci
[17:38] <amichair> ogzy: importantly, make a backup of ur data etc., just in case something goes wrong it might be faster to just do a clean install and migrate data/settings - just a thought
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ok , ogzy you should be ok
[17:43] <BluesKaj> yeah, I agree , I would back up my data to available media and do a clean install , ogzy
[17:51] <o0lilith0o> hii
[17:51] <o0lilith0o> ho
[17:51] <TTA> hi
[17:52] <o0lilith0o> hmm
[17:52] <o0lilith0o> kubuntu rocks?
[17:54] <o0lilith0o> which is better kubuntu or haiku
[17:55] <o0lilith0o> ?
[17:55] <TTA> i try to copy the main file of my python interpreter in /usr/local/bin but it does not work, the reason is that i am not autorise to do that, what can i do to avoid that or what is the others possibilities?
[17:56] <o0lilith0o> Um?
[17:56] <o0lilith0o> Are you "root"?
[17:56] <o0lilith0o> or su
[18:00] <TTA> root
[18:03] <akis> hi all. does any one has any idea why my internet browser (chrome or ff or opera) cannot load properly, fast or not at all every page wich is related with google? for example it very difficult to load www.ggogle.com, google maps, blogspot pages and many certain other that have any relation with google. my bandwith is very fast and i can download with 1,5mb/s speed. if i choose as default search engine yahoo or bing there is no problem. they can find in
[18:03] <akis> milliseconds everything i ask for. but google cannot. the browser stops. 3 days ago in the same machine i was running xp and opera 11.11 and everythin was absoletely ok and i had a very very fast browsing. browsing is also very fast for pages without any googel lniks or other relation.
[18:03] <FloodBotK1> akis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <o0lilith0o> Why does kubuntu 11.04 take a million years to load in qemu?
[18:05] <Tm_T> o0lilith0o: without more details it's quite impossible to say
[18:06] <Peace-> hi
[18:07] <TTA> i try to copy the main file of my python interpreter in /usr/local/bin but it does not work, the reason is that i am not autorise to do that, what can i do to avoid that or what is the others possibilities?
[18:09] <o0lilith0o> TTA: it sounds to my unexperienced brain like you just need to root/su
[18:09] <Tm_T> o0lilith0o: watch your attitude
[18:10] <o0lilith0o> ?
[18:10] <o0lilith0o> I'm really not experienced with *nix
[18:10] <Tm_T> TTA: try copying on commandline with sudo
[18:10] <TTA> i am root, did i tell you
[18:11] <TTA> Tm_T> how?
[18:11] <Tm_T> TTA: if you are not authorised to copy, you are not doing the copying as root
[18:11] <o0lilith0o> Ok, I've made it to the text mode screen "Welcome to Ubuntu 11.04 (GNU/Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686)
[18:11] <o0lilith0o> Even tho I'm using the kubuntu.iso
[18:12] <Tm_T> TTA: "sudo cp /patch/to/source.file /path/to/destination"
[18:12] <TTA> ok let us assume that i am not root how can i do to be it?
[18:12] <Tm_T> TTA: in Kubuntu, sudo in command line
[18:12] <Tm_T> !sudo > TTA
[18:13] <Tm_T> !cli | TTA
[18:13] <o0lilith0o> why isnt there a woman command?
[18:14] <o0lilith0o> oh, there is, "bitchx" ....
[18:14] <o0lilith0o> is it ok to say the name of the irc proggy im connected to this room using?
[18:14] <Tm_T> o0lilith0o: enough, if you don't have support question or are answering for one then stay quiet
[18:15] <Tm_T> !offtopic | o0lilith0o
[18:15] <o0lilith0o> ok, but my last question is pertinent(sp?)
[18:15] <o0lilith0o> and i am actually looking for help
[18:16] <Tm_T> I understand, but you are causing unnecessary and unhelpful noise too, try keep that in minimum
[18:16] <o0lilith0o> I booted the latest release kubuntu .iso in qemu(win32 on XP) and just now it made it to where I think it should have started x but it did not
[18:16] <o0lilith0o> so I managed to get to bash(?) and typed startx
[18:17] <o0lilith0o> it says the xauthority is missing and so far ive got x(I guess?) with just a mouse cursor
[18:17] <Tm_T> did you check the integrity of the .iso ?
[18:18] <o0lilith0o> any idea why this is not just booting live like it should(or even install I have a disk for qemu to use)
[18:18] <o0lilith0o> no, crc or whatever?
[18:18] <Tm_T> I think md5 sums are available for the images somewhere
[18:18] <Tm_T> !md5
[18:19] <o0lilith0o> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_
[18:19] <o0lilith0o>           md5sum_in_Windows
[18:19] <o0lilith0o> oh oops
[18:19] <o0lilith0o> sorry
[18:19] <FloodBotK1> o0lilith0o: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <preecher> i somehow deleted my firefox icon last night & whatever i did also removed firefox from my "internet" menu & placed it under "lost & found"--i've figured out how to get my icon back but i need help in getting firefox listed back in my "internet" menu---many thanks in advance
[18:23] <BluesKaj> preecher, have you tried reinstalling?
[18:24] <preecher> BluesKaj  umm no--i'll try that now thx
[18:24] <TTA> Tm_T: it does not work, the terminal is not reconizing the command about patch/etc..
[18:26] <o0lilith0o> The md5 sum for my kubuntu.iso and the reported md5 from kubuntu.org are the same
[18:26] <o0lilith0o> still, it didn't live boot correctly in qemu 0.9.0 win32
[18:26] <ScorpKing> hi guys. anyone using 10.10 here?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, I'm not right now , but I did :)
[18:28] <preecher> BluesKaj  it gives me the option to remove in kpackage--if i remove it will i have to go to the mozilla page to download & install?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> no reinstall option ?
[18:28] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: hehe.. i'm looking for the md5sum of /usr/bin/sudo on 10.10
[18:28] <preecher> BluesKaj no
[18:29] <BluesKaj> just remove will still save the conf file so if you install again all the settings should be retained, preecher
[18:30] <preecher> BluesKaj--kk doing now---many thx
[18:30] <BluesKaj> install from kpackagekit or apt , preecher , no need to go to mozilla
[18:35] <preecher> lol your not gonna believe this---uninstalled --then installed it again --and it placed it back in the "lost & found" section---but no worries it works & i plece in a qwick launcer & panel anyway--just knowing it wasnt/isntin internet menu was eating at me
[18:36] <BluesKaj> preecher, just right click on it in the lost and found, add to panel
[18:36] <preecher> BluesKaj just done --again thx
[18:36] <o0lilith0o> Anyone with Qemu experience wanna private msg me?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> o0lilith0o, don't expect exclusive support here
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !pm | o0lilith0o
[18:38] <BluesKaj> and the reverse is true as well
[18:39] <o0lilith0o> Oh, I just didn't want to flood the channel.
[18:40] <Pici> Use a pastebin if you need to share output from a command or similar.
[18:40] <Pici> !paste
[18:40] <o0lilith0o> I verified my kubuntu iso with md5, it's good. I'm using Qemu 0.9.0 for win32; on XP. The command line I use to start Qemu is: qemu.exe -L . -m 256 -hda disk.img -soundhw all -localtime -M pc -cdrom kubuntu.iso -boot d
[18:40] <BluesKaj> o0lilith0o, altho i don't know of many who use qemu , so it may be a while
[18:40] <o0lilith0o> That command line works for everything(ubuntu, haiku, xp).
[18:42] <o0lilith0o> The problem I had was I got to the point where X would start and it refused to. I dropped into the shell and typed "startx", which worked, but X started with no window manager(I got just a mouse cursor) and it reported that xauth was missing.
[18:42] <ScorpKing> o0lilith0o: what is the problem with qemu?
[18:42] <ScorpKing> oh nvm.
[18:42] <o0lilith0o> I don't think it's a problem with Qemu(Its working for other OS runs)
[18:43] <o0lilith0o> I'm wondering, sort of, if Kubuntu just doesn't want to be run inside Qemu.
[18:43] <ScorpKing> o0lilith0o: you need more ram that 256
[18:44] <ScorpKing> than*
[18:44] <o0lilith0o> Haha.
[18:44] <o0lilith0o> I'll try that.
[18:49] <o0lilith0o> Well, I might as well just burn Kubuntu to a cd...
[18:51] <TTA> you becoming clever, great!
[19:02] <natman2> hello, looking for help with my audio in Kubuntu, the settings in in Phonon are all screwed up
[19:06] <preecher> how to check how much ram im using
[19:06] <BluesKaj> natman2, what settings exactly , pulseaudio , backend ?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> preecher, type free in a terminal
[19:08] <natman2> hi /BluesKaj yesterday i booted up and amaraok was giving terrible ( like full of static ) audio, i went to have alook in sys settings and under audio and Phonon - Device preference there is just "dummy" which gives no output when i press test
[19:08] <preecher> BluesKaj thx im jus curious as how much im using--kubu runs faster than ubu & xubu & i dont understaand how
[19:08] <natman2> BluesKaj: othere than updates i did not mess with anything
[19:09] <BluesKaj> natman2, open alsamixer in a terminal , see what audio driver is listed at the top right
[19:09] <BluesKaj> err left rather
[19:10] <natman2> BluesKaj: HDA intel
[19:11] <BluesKaj> ok preecher  look in the kmenu apps /system for system monitor
[19:11] <BluesKaj> natman2, is pulseaudio installed ?
[19:12] <delac> using dolphin to connect to server via ssh. Every time I open a file, I'm asked for password. Any way to manage with one per session?
[19:12] <natman2> BluesKaj: kpackage kit says it is, like i say sound was perfect yesterday, all of a sudden its not
[19:13] <natman2> delac:  did you check the box that says remeber password?
[19:13] <delac> natman2: no, because I dont wnat it to remember it longer than fo one session
[19:13] <BluesKaj> natman2, have you updated/upgraded since your system audio was working
[19:13] <delac> natman2: or does that apply only for the session?
[19:14] <natman2> BluesKaj: i think i took an update yesterday not sure tbh
[19:14] <natman2> delac: in my experience  yes, ticking the box is for that one session
[19:14] <delac> natman2: oh, going to try then
[19:15] <BluesKaj> delac, yeah , install sshfs
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !sshfs
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !info sshfs
[19:15] <delac> natman2: it whips out the kdewallet, so I dont think it is only for the session
[19:16] <natman2> delac: ok im not much help in that case, sorry
[19:16] <BluesKaj> !no password
[19:18] <delac> BluesKaj: you think installing sshfs would help? I mean, Nautilus doesn't need it to work as I descriped.
[19:19] <BluesKaj> delac, I use sshfs and it lasts for the whole session ...i have since installed nfs whioch allows automounting at boot , but that's a bit more involved
[19:20] <delac> BluesKaj: do you know what dolphin uses in absence of sshfs? Or what nautilus uses?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> delac, smb client or samba
[19:21] <BluesKaj> check this  delac http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2007/07/ssh-without-password.html
[19:23] <delac> BluesKaj: smb or samba for ssh connections? is that even possible?
[19:23] <natman2> BluesKaj:  anyidea what i should ?
[19:23] <natman2> do*
[19:25] <delac> BluesKaj: oh, and I dont want to generate ssh key. I just want dolphin to remember the password for a session
[19:27] <BluesKaj> delac,  the only thing I can suggest is to minimize the remote folder, for the session
[19:28] <BluesKaj> then it's available when you need it
[19:28] <delac> BluesKaj: minimize?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> are you using dolphin or nautilus or what ?
[19:29] <delac> BluesKaj: nautilus works fine. I'm trying to make dolphin work too.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> then open dolphin network "add network folder"...it dowesn't mattr which method you choose you still need a username and pw , ssh or ftp or web
[19:32] <delac> BluesKaj: yes, that is what I did. But after the initial login, it asks the password for every file I open in gedit or whatever. Also it asks it if I try to reopen the file.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> delac, add the foldrs or the dir to places in dolphin or nautilus
[19:36] <delac> BluesKaj: well, it seems to have stopped doing that. dont know what I did but now it doesn't ask the password anymore.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> delac, add it to places
[19:37] <delac> BluesKaj: I did try the remember password check, but didn't give password for the wallet. And then restarted dolphin...
[19:37] <BluesKaj> and it will last for the session , I think :)
[19:37] <delac> BluesKaj: well it seems to do it already
[19:38] <BluesKaj> yeah well pwds last for 10 mins or so by default
[19:38] <delac> BluesKaj: and andding to places would extend that?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> yes , it should las tfor the whole session
[19:40] <delac> BluesKaj: gotta remember that. thanks
[19:41] <natman2> BluesKaj:  any idea how to get my sound back?
[19:42] <delac> but now I got another problem with dolphin and gedit. for some reason dolphin doesnt give gedit the proper file but a copy in /var/tmp/kdecache-USER/krun/. Any remedy for that?
[19:46] <delac> natman2: what kind of problem you have with the sounds?
[19:46] <natman2> i have none
[19:46] <BluesKaj> natman2, yeah purge pulseaudo . then setup alsamixer , your settings may have changed with the recent upgrade
[19:46] <natman2> BluesKaj: how do i do that?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> delac, yeah use kate if you want to be inkubuntu. don't mix n match
[19:48] <delac> BluesKaj: but I want to mix :)
[19:48] <delac> BluesKaj: I have other problems with Kate that I dont have in Gedit
[19:49] <BluesKaj> natman2, open kpackagekit  search for pulseaudio . if you have the "remove completely..." option, use that
[19:50] <BluesKaj> delac, ok , do a little reading on running kde on ubuntu and vice versa
[19:50] <MaximLevitsky> That brings me the memories when I hated pulseaudio
[19:50] <MaximLevitsky> cat ~/bin/helpers/murder | pastebinit
[19:50] <natman2> BluesKaj: all i have is "remove" is that the same?
[19:50] <MaximLevitsky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/612892/
[19:50] <delac> BluesKaj: can you recommend some specific text?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio , in the terminal , natman2
[19:51] <natman2> BluesKaj: ok afterwards?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> delac, then use nano in the terminal if you have text editor problems
[19:53] <delac> BluesKaj: I think that might just mean more troubles... :)
[19:54] <BluesKaj> natman2,  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[19:54] <BluesKaj> natman2, navigate with arrow keys
[19:55] <natman2> BluesKaj: they are all on max and unmuted
[19:55] <delac> natman2: oh, one good thing to check too. Check that your speakers are connected. ;)
[19:55] <BluesKaj> sorry delac , I'm not an editor expert , you'll have to figure it out , maybe the ppl at ubuntu can helpw ith gedit
[19:56] <delac> BluesKaj: np, I think I try #kde next.
[19:56] <BluesKaj> natman2, in the terminal speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[19:57] <MaximLevitsky> natman2: if you didn't remove pulseaudio yet, could you open 'pavucontrol' and see what it says?
[19:57] <natman2> BluesKaj: sorry already removed
[19:57] <natman2> BluesKaj: atman@swan:~$ speaker-test -c2 -Default -t wav
[19:57] <natman2> speaker-test <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:57] <natman2> Playback device is efault
[19:57] <MaximLevitsky> natman2: in that case open alsamixer
[19:58] <MaximLevitsky> max output channels
[19:58] <natman2> MaximLevitsky: they are all maxed
[19:58] <MaximLevitsky> if that doesn't work, then its kernel bug
[19:58] <natman2> BluesKaj: should re install pulseaudio?
[19:58] <MaximLevitsky> it doesn't matter
[19:58] <BluesKaj> natman2, was ther any sound at all ?
[19:58] <natman2> BluesKaj: nothing
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !intelhda
[19:59] <MaximLevitsky> natman2: then you should report that to alsa-devel mailling list
[19:59] <BluesKaj> natman2, check that site
[20:00] <MaximLevitsky> In a nutshell, Linux lacks generic HDA driver, thus for each laptop, a custom 'driver' is created
[20:01] <MaximLevitsky> the core is common of course
[20:01] <MaximLevitsky> but for each laptop there is custom set of mappings that locate output channels various mute knobs, etc
[20:44] <Guest43989> hi
[20:45] <Linkmaster> hey
[20:45] <Linkmaster> or not :l
[20:47] <mime1111> hello. when i install some packages via synaptic i get that error in gnome   404 Not Found
[20:47] <mime1111> Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe sensors-applet 2.2.1-1ubuntu4
[20:47] <mime1111>   404 Not Found
[20:48] <Pici> ...
[20:48] <Pici> mime1111: Jaunty is no longer supported.
[20:48] <Pici> !jaunty
[20:48] <mime1111> ok thnx
[20:49] <Pici> mime1111: you may be able to upgrade to a supported release, see the second link here:
[20:49] <Pici> !eol
[20:49] <BluesKaj> Pici, he told me he wasn't allowed
[20:49] <Pici> BluesKaj: Ah.
[20:49] <mime1111> thnx!
[20:50] <BluesKaj> he's been trolling here withe same questions for 2 days
[20:50] <BluesKaj> odd , he didn't thank me yesterday when I suggested he upgrade :)
[21:01] <MadMouse> lol
[21:09] <Axtra> Hey guys, I can't seem to connect to WiFi - I could straight after reinstalling Kubuntu, but not any more
[21:09] <Axtra> I installed Wicd-Kde at the suggestion of someone in here, but that only made it worse
[21:12] <delac> now I got quite reverse problem compared to the earlier one: how do I disconnect ssh connection started with Dolphin?
[21:16] <BluesKaj> Axtra, in the terminal sudo lspci -Q , find the wlan0 or wifi controller
[21:17] <Axtra_> Okay, trying that now
[21:17] <Axtra_> Thanks for the help, by the way - I've been banging my head against a wall all day
[21:18] <BluesKaj> delac, close dolphin
[21:22] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, what did you find ?
[21:23] <Axtra_> Running the command right now
[21:23] <Axtra_> What do you want me to post?
[21:23] <delac> BluesKaj: huh, this time it did work... O_o The connection did close. But the session doesn't. It doesn't ask the password when I reconnect...
[21:23] <BluesKaj> just need to know the wifi chip /module
[21:25] <Axtra_> I can't figure out from this which is the wifi chip/module
[21:25] <BluesKaj> ok pastebin the output , Axtra_
[21:26] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, something with wlan0
[21:26] <Axtra_> I don't see anything with wlan0
[21:26] <BluesKaj> anything with ethernet?
[21:27] <BluesKaj> wirless
[21:28] <Axtra_> The first line is 00:00:0 Class 0600: Device 8086:27ac (rev03)
[21:28] <Axtra_> The rest are all variations on that
[21:28] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[21:29] <Axtra_> From iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612944
[21:30] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, try this, sudo lshw -C network
[21:31] <Axtra_> From sudo lshw -C network: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612947
[21:34] <Axtra_> And this is from sudo lspci -Q: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612949
[21:35] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, Wireless interface RT2860 Ralink ... that one is a problem aleight and I haven't seen any fixes for it ...remember the Wireless interface RT2860 Ralink for future reference and searches
[21:35] <Axtra_> Hmm...
[21:35] <Axtra_> So, any suggestions?
[21:35] <Axtra_> Any ideas why it would connect before but not now?
[21:40] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, check this out,  http://linuxpc.info/node/99
[21:40] <Axtra_> Sweet, thanks
[21:40] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, I hope it works for you
[21:40] <Axtra_> Can you recommend a fairly easy to use editor to edit that with/
[21:40] <Axtra_> kedit?
[21:41] <Linkmaster> kate
[21:41] <Axtra_> thanks
[21:42] <Axtra_> BluesKaj, and I just stick the lines on the end?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, yes
[21:43] <lcb> hi
[21:43] <Axtra_> BluesKaj, Could you explain what doing that does?
[21:44] <Linkmaster> lcb: heya, get back in the -offtopic channel
[21:44] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, it's blacklisting drivers that interfere , and for some reason get loaded in kernel modules ..it's like a filter ,,the right one should work after rebooting
[21:45] <Axtra_> BluesKaj, Okay, so the drivers don't get loaded at all?
[21:45] <lcb> Hi Linkmaster :)
[21:45] <BluesKaj> not the ones ion the blacklist
[21:46] <Axtra_> Ah, okay - so how does it solve the wireless problem?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> the network manager will load the right driver at reboot , it should work ...I have the rt2870 an had to black list the rt2800 from loading
[21:49] <Axtra_> Ah, okay
[21:50] <Axtra_> Also, I installed Wicd-KDE, but I still have network manager
[21:50] <Axtra_> How can I install that?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, remove wicd , it's buggy on natty...it doesn't work for ralink
[21:52] <Axtra_> How can I get rid of it?
[21:54] <BluesKaj> Axtra_, in kpackagekit
[21:55] <BluesKaj> bbl
[21:55] <Axtra_> BluesKaj, do I just stick that in the command line?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove wicd-kde wicd
[21:56] <amichair> where can I find the setting that makes the panel non-transparent?
[22:04] <BluesKaj> amichair, system settings/ workspce appearance / get new themes etc
[22:05] <amichair> BluesKaj: I only see an option to pick and choose themes, not to change anything
[22:05] <amichair> there used to be a simple configuration option that says whether the panel is transparent or not...
[22:05] <amichair> maybe it is no longer configurable?
[22:06] <amichair> it makes it unusable with many wallpapers though (e.g. the default kubuntu wallpaper, when the panel is at the top of the screen - way too dark)
[22:06] <BluesKaj> wel, amichair , keep looking
[22:07] <amichair> BluesKaj: :-)
[22:07] <amichair> the magic lamp effect is also broken in natty when the panel is on top - half the window goes up, the other half goes down :-P
[22:10] <BluesKaj> magic lamp ? no idea what that is
[22:10] <lcb> amichair: did you pay the electrical bill for magic lamp not working?
[22:10] <amichair> one of the kubuntu desktop effects of minimizing/maximizing windows
[22:11] <lcb> amichair: j/k look on bottom of the dialog. you have options to install new backgrounds.
[22:11] <BluesKaj> amichair, boo hoo :)
[22:11] <amichair> I think it's the effect used in mac osx
[22:12] <amichair> lcb: I know how to switch wallpapers, but I'd rather be able to show basically any photo (or a slideshow, for that matter) without the image interfering with the panel (and by extension, my work)
[22:12] <lcb> amichair: plus, on system settings input in the search dialog " effects "
[22:12] <lcb> amichair: you have in there a bunch of configurable options
[22:12] <BluesKaj> later ..i have stuff to do
[22:12] <amichair> BluesKaj: see ya
[22:13] <amichair> lcb: I know that too, but the effect I was using for the past few months just got broken in my update to natty earlier today
[22:13] <soee> anyone managed to run Radiotray on Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE 4.6.2 ?
[22:14] <lcb> amichair: :( try dpkg-reconfigure that_package
[22:14] <amichair> lcb: I'm pretty sure it's a bug - the effect works, but calculates the movement coordinates wrong
[22:15] <lcb> amichair: if is a package... if not... probably removing it with synaptics and installing it, in case is listed there
[22:15] <lcb> synaptic, i mean
[22:15] <amichair> but no biggie - I've got more serious (broken) things to fix
[22:16] <lcb> amichair: don't do sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu, while fixing it :P
[22:16] <lcb> what's the name of suspected effect you believe is causing your problems?
[22:17] <amichair> lcb: it's not causing me problems, it's just got a bug :-) it's the magic lamp effect, when the panel is on the top of the screen
[22:17] <lcb> amichair: i'm going to try reproducing what you have
[22:17] <amichair> lcb: ok, just move the panel to the top and enable the magic lamp
[22:18] <amichair> lcb: better yet, first enable the effect with the panel on bottom to see how it should look
[22:18] <amichair> the notice how it behaves when the panel is above
[22:22] <lcb> amichair: wait... it needs to install a lot of compiz and compiz fusion
[22:23] <lcb> i don't have my kubuntu virtual machine available now
[22:26] <lcb> amichair: i thought it would be possible to install magic lamp as a widget...  i don't see it anywhere in the repos
[22:31] <amichair> lcb: it's available by default in any kubuntu installation in system settings -> desktop effects -> all effects -> magic lamp
[22:32] <lcb> hmm let me see
[22:34] <lcb> amichair: you are right. activated. now?
[22:34] <amichair> click on one of the tasks in the panel to see how it should look
[22:35] <amichair> then move the panel to the top of the screen, and see how it looks
[22:35] <amichair> btw, you're on natty, yes?
[22:35] <lcb> amichair: so far no glitches
[22:35] <lcb> amichair: whole panel??
[22:36] <lcb> amichair:  i have a bottom and a top one already
[22:36] <lcb> i like that effect btw
[22:36] <amichair> lcb: oh... well is there any way you can get the task manager to be on the top panel? or move both panels somewhere else?
[22:36] <lcb> amichair: yes, 11.04
[22:37] <lcb> amichair: yes, i can open one on the top. wait
[22:37] <natman2> I am having a problem with my audio, all system sounds are fine but music from amarok sounds terrible - very rough/static
[22:38] <lcb> amichair: works good
[22:39] <lcb> amichair:  did you check the spacers and probably any "hidden" items in there?!
[22:39] <amichair> lcb: you don't see part of the window being minimized to the top of the screen, while the bottom half is being minimized to the bottom (where the panel would be if it were there)?
[22:40] <amichair> look carefully at the animation as you click the task button several times
[22:41] <lcb> i think i understand  what you mean. maybe... try increasing or reducing panel's height
[22:42] <lcb> amichair: here is doing what (i believe) it's supposed to do
[22:43] <lcb> amichair:  ahh wait.... on the bottom one it opens or minimizes the window as a funil; on the top one it does as kind of flopping
[22:43] <lcb> i mean, folding, if you understand
[22:44] <lcb> so, different behavior on top or bottom. however i think if we change the height that might change too
[22:45] <lcb> yeap.. try changing the height of the top panel.
[22:46] <amichair> yes, the folding is actually the top two cornders moving to the top panel, and the bottom two corners moving to the (would-be) bottom panel, so the whole thing looks twisted. Compare this to the normal behavior when the panel is on the bottom, and it's perfectly clear that it is minimized to the right location.
[22:47] <lcb> meganerd: if you have the tasks on top of each other you'll get what you have now. if you have the tasks side by side that is not happening
[22:47] <amichair> lcb: hehe, if you put your task panel on the side of the screen it really goes wacko
[22:48] <natman2> I am having a problem with my audio, all system sounds are fine but music from amarok sounds terrible - very rough/static
[22:48] <lcb> this effect is behaving differently, dependig of screen resolutions and sktopizes of whatever we have on the des
[22:48] <lcb> this effect is behaving differently, dependig of screen resolutions and sizes of whatever we have on the desktop
[22:49] <amichair> natman2: that depends on what band you're listening too
[22:49] <amichair> natman2: (just kidding! :-) )
[22:49] <natman2> amichair:  :)
[22:49] <lcb> amichair: i'm relieved now. i thought i would need to install a lot of compiz here. i don't want to
[22:50] <amichair> I haven't used compiz since edgy or feisty or whenever they integrated desktop effects into kdm
[22:50] <amichair> although I do miss the flame window-destroying effect
[22:50] <lcb> we have enough effects with Kubuntu, as is
[22:51] <lcb> enough ---- plenty (some ppl like a lot of effects)
[22:54] <lcb> natman2: check levels. probably something is too high
[22:56] <natman2> lcb: nahh did alsamixer and everything is down to 60ish % still terrible sound
[22:56] <natman2> it was all fine two days ago
[23:01] <natman2> lcb: any ideas?
[23:03] <lcb> natman2: if you say that's only happening with amarok.... it is only an amarok issue. probably reconfiguring it or reinstalling it.
[23:04] <lcb> natman2: try the old trick ' sudo dpkg-rconfigure amarok '
[23:04] <lcb> natman2: try the old trick ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure amarok '
[23:05] <lcb> then check the configurations in it.
[23:06] <natman2> lcb: did that, still terrible audio
[23:07] <natman2> lcb: there is one thing, inside system settings and multimedia-audio i no longer see digital audio as a settings, its all analouge , there was digital there before
[23:10] <lcb> natman2: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure amarok-common && sudo dpkg-reconfigure amarok-utils
[23:13] <natman2> lcb: no change, i dont think its an amarok only issue, that missing digital setting in the sound settings seems odd
[23:14] <lcb> natman2: "Replay Gain Mode" : Off
[23:14] <natman2> lcb: where is that?
[23:15] <lcb> Under Settings, nat
[23:15] <natman2> lcb: no change
[23:16] <lcb> natman2: under "Tools", "Equalizer Off (to start...
[23:16] <natman2> lcb: its off
[23:16] <lcb> natman2: in other words, turn everything to defaults or off
[23:18] <natman2> lcb: ya its all done, still the same i really dont think its an amarok thing
[23:18] <lcb> natman2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok && sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:18] <lcb> wait..
[23:18] <lcb> natman2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --purge remove amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok && sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:19] <lcb> natman2: mine is working fine. of course it might be different hardware and probably many apps interfering with it are installed (or not)
[23:21] <natman2> lcb: all done, still the same
[23:22] <natman2> lcb: its not amaroks fault
[23:23] <lcb> natman2:  out of ideas. i'm just an user like you. sorry buddy
[23:23] <axtra> Hey guys, anybody know a good compiler for Ruby?
[23:23] <natman2> lcb:  thanks for the help, Does anyone else know about audio issues in Kubuntu?
[23:24] <natman2>  Does anyone else know about audio issues in Kubuntu?
[23:38] <gdx_> Hello guys i've got problem with saving&watching AV stream from rtsp camera so far i figured out this pipeline but i have no idea how to write proper one.           gst-launch-0.10 rtspsrc location=rtsp://<IP_ADDRESS>:8554/test latency=90 name=s ! rtph264depay ! h264parse ! tee name=videoout ! queue ! matroskamux ! filesink location=sampel.mkv videoout. ! queue ! decodebin ! autovideosink s. ! rtpvorbisdepay ! vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! alsasink


[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[19:00] <arraybolt3> @room just fyi, both of the patches to Ubuntu's ISO build tooling for transitioning us away from Ubiquity have landed, so we should see an ISO that boots into the new installer prompt rather than the old maybe-ubiquity screen any day now. Once we see an ISO come through that has those changes, we can unseed Ubiquity.
[19:02] <arraybolt3> (I think anyway - I've done my due diligence to keep the unseed from breaking all of creation, so hopefully we'll be fine, and vorlon only noticed one thing extra I had forgotten to change)
 Nice!!!
[22:01] <mparillo> In the #kubuntu channel, I have seen several questions about the password on the Live ISO. I think the root cause is that the Power Saving (and possibly also Screen Locking) System Setting defaults to sleep, and the greeter screen does not work with no password. I have posted to possible work-arounds in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/2054246
[22:01] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2054246 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "Cannot unlike screen on NN live ISO" [Undecided, New]
[22:02] <mparillo> Auto-incorrect strikes again.
[22:53] <arraybolt3> I think the transition to Cala may be complete...
[22:53] <arraybolt3> booting an ISO to find out
[22:53] <arraybolt3> mhh... it auto-logged-in to a Plasma session
[22:54] <arraybolt3> ah, so it's mid transition
[22:54] <arraybolt3> still using casper 1.490, when all the latest goodness is in 1.493
[22:55] <arraybolt3> so tomorrow we should be live