[01:28] <tgm4883> I've got 13.10 and bluetooth headphones with a microphone (Soundbot SB270) and when I connect it and select the A2DP profile, I can't use the microphone
[01:29] <tgm4883> When I select HSP/HFP, I can select the microphone, but the headphones then are only mono
[01:29] <tgm4883> what gives?
[01:29] <tgm4883> is there a conf file somewhere I need to fix this?
[02:19] <nescius> tgm4883: thats exactly how both A2DP and HSP/HFP are specified, nothing to do about it except designing your own protocol, i'm afraid..
[02:20] <tgm4883> nescius: I was just reading up on that, it seems there is a specification that it should use both profiles at once
[02:20] <tgm4883> https://developer.bluetooth.org/TechnologyOverview/Pages/Multi-Profile.aspx
[02:21] <nescius> interesting, but wouldn't it require 'two devices'
[02:21] <tgm4883> granted I was just googling and found that, so IDK if it's a spec I need to look for on the device or if it's just in bluetooth X.X
[02:21] <tgm4883> nescius: doesn't sound like it, multiple profiles, single device
[02:22] <tgm4883> I think it's basically switching between the profiles really fast
[02:23] <nescius> tgm4883: i would not expect much as the paper is from 2013..
[02:24] <nescius> sounds cool though
[02:24] <tgm4883> bummer :/
[02:24] <tgm4883> well I just ordered a USB gaming headset off amazon, so I guess I'll wait for that
[02:25] <tgm4883> nescius: thanks for looking
[03:33] <betweenborders> Is anyone else having problems with the scrolling speed on the laptop touchpad being too fast?
[03:33] <betweenborders> I've noticed this while scrolling in Firefox and other applications.
[03:34] <betweenborders> I tried changing the scrolling speed in the System Settings, but it doesn't do anything.
[05:05] <beltorak> hi all; i am trying to setup pam_time.so but I am getting "Module is unknown" in the auth log and cannot log in. Does anyone know what I can check?
[05:25] <beltorak> ok; i figured that out - my mistake. so it stops a login at the console, but why is kdm ignoring it?
[05:28] <beltorak> what are the time.conf "service names"?
[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:11] <An_Ony_Moose> what's the default way to upgrade to 14.04? Should I just use do-release-upgrade or is there a fancy GUI hiding somewhere?
[08:13] <lordievader> An_Ony_Moose: I believe there is some gui through Muon, but I have never used it.
[08:19] <An_Ony_Moose> lordievader: so just do-release-upgrade?
[08:20] <lordievader> An_Ony_Moose: That's what I use. What version are you on now?
[08:23] <An_Ony_Moose> lordievader: 13.10
[08:23] <An_Ony_Moose> I think
[08:24] <An_Ony_Moose> oh wait no
[08:24] <An_Ony_Moose> 13.04. Bugger.
[08:25] <lordievader> An_Ony_Moose: Then it is really time to upgrade, Raring is no longer supported. Now you have a choice, either upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04 or go to 14.04 directly by reinstalling.
[08:29] <An_Ony_Moose> yep
[09:34] <ostar> I do have a severe problem with kubuntu 14.4. I can't open any context menu with the right button. The context menu has disappeared in any application. Dolphin, firefox, thunderbird, etc
[09:34] <ostar> Can somebody help me?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[11:45] <stokp2> hi!
[11:45] <lordievader> o/
[11:45] <stokp2> short question: I just downloaded the kubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit version, when I try to boot from DVD or USB the "kubuntu"-screen appears, and then everything just stalls? anybody having similar troubles?
[11:49] <stokp2> short question: I just downloaded the kubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit version, when I try to boot from DVD or USB the "kubuntu"-screen appears, and then everything just stalls? anybody having similar troubles?
[11:49] <lordievader> !patience | stokp2
[11:51] <BluesKaj> stokp2, I had a similar experience with kubuntu 12.04, so I used the text installer which is similar to the minimal version.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> !minimal |  stokp2
[11:51] <stokp2> I don't even get to the scree where I can select either
[11:52] <stokp2> this sux
[11:52] <stokp2> I did check the md5sum, it was intact
[11:53] <BluesKaj> it's probly a HW recognition problem
[11:53] <stokp2> but kubuntu 12.04 worked flawlessly
[11:53] <BluesKaj> different HW
[11:54] <stokp2> hmmm... I just booted into 12.04 again and now I see my desktop images have been f'cked with
[11:54] <stokp2> that is not supposed to happen when using a live disk
[11:54] <BluesKaj> filed a bug m but it was never solved afaik
[11:57] <BluesKaj> stokp2, all I can suggest is try the minimal and install the kubuntu-desktop
[11:59] <stokp2> hmmmmm now I remember, last time I also had to use the text version.... I#ll try that one
[11:59] <hateball> stokp2: does it halt at the grub menu, or when it starts booting the OS?
[12:00] <hateball> that is, can you press a key to change language etc?
[12:00] <stokp2> no
[12:01] <stokp2> the graphic "kubuntu" screen appears, and then nothing, but on a old box I have I get to a installation process window, but it is empty....
[12:01] <stokp2> where can I find a text install?
[12:02] <stokp2> doesn't seem to be there.... there used to be an "alternate!" install
[12:03] <stokp2> well... on the other box the install stalled too
[12:03] <yossarianuk>  can anyone recommend any good stress testing apps for webservers  - preferably one that produces graphs?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> it's called minimal stokp2 , already posted the link above
[12:04] <yossarianuk> tried to look at jenkins/gatling but that seems insanely complicated ?
[12:04] <stokp2> and now it even fucked up grub on my other box, can't boot anymore... man! this sux
[12:04] <lordievader> stokp2: Please watch your language.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> stokp2, read wht we're postinfg
[12:05] <stokp2> ok
[12:06] <stokp2> but the minimal install is not a real alternative.. I don't want to select hundreds of packages...
[12:07] <lordievader> stokp2: You don't, we got the kubuntu-desktop meta package.
[12:07] <stokp2> ah, so I should select the kubuntu desktop meta package which includes everything in the normal isntall?
[12:08] <G__81> i am using kubuntu 14.04.I did an upgrade from 13.10 and the issue i see is with respect to the touchpad. The synaptik driver was better but now for some reason even if i select disable touchpad while typing, i see it getting  in between and i find it hard to type code etc. Is there something i am missing ? something like some service to be started etc?
[12:08] <lordievader> stokp2: Exactly.
[12:08] <stokp2> ok
[12:08] <stokp2> thanks
[12:10] <stokp2> bye
[12:11] <G__81> can some one give me some clues ?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> G__81, disabled via system settings>input devices>touchpad?
[12:13] <janmalte> firefox 29 is crashing just at startup on kubuntu 14.04
[12:14] <G__81> BluesKaj: yes i clicked on the option disable touchpad while typing but it does not seem to help
[12:14] <G__81> BluesKaj: i didnt face this problem with 13.10 and other distros. Infact Fedora 20 works just truly awesome
[12:16] <hateball> I have the same issue, havent bothered tracking it down tho
[12:16] <hateball> no pun intended
[12:16] <G__81> hateball: you mean the issue that i have ?
[12:17] <hateball> G__81: Yes
[12:18] <BluesKaj> had the same issue, but rebooting made it stick
[12:18] <G__81> its so annoying when you want to write some code and you see it just getting disturbed
[12:19] <BluesKaj> it's annoying when writing anything
[12:19] <G__81> :) true
[12:20] <BluesKaj> G__81, that's why I use a mouse, the trackpad has always annoyed me
[12:21] <BluesKaj> err touchpad or whatever it's called
[12:22] <hateball> assuming touchpad gets disabled if you plug in a mouse, otherwise it wont help accidental moving when typing much
[12:23] <BluesKaj> hateball, exactly, one has to set that in the input devices tho
[12:44] <mariusK> Hi. I have an 8GB USB stick nd I'd like to have a 'real' kubuntu install on it. I want to be able to boot from it, install and update software and use it like a regular system. Also I'd like to have regular user accounts on this system. The 'startup disk creator' and UInetbootin seem to only want to install a 'live' installer CD that prompts if you want to install or 'try' kubuntu to the PC and do not seem to be persistent (at least not
[12:44] <mariusK>  for software installs). What is a better way of doing this?
[12:46] <lordievader> mariusK: I'd say debootstrap.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> hmm, 8G isn't a lot of room for a whole install
[12:47] <mariusK> lordievader: will that work (seeing that all USB installers out there seem to depend on fat32, i'm assuming that a USB cannot boot a non-fat32 system)
[12:48] <jussi> !persistent
[12:48] <jussi> mariusK: ^^
[12:51] <lordievader> mariusK: Yes, you build it on a fat32 filesystem.
[12:52] <cojack> do some one try export and import wallets?
[12:52] <lordievader> jussi: Does persistency allow you to update the install on the usb stick?
[12:52] <cojack> for me doesn't work this option
[12:53] <mariusK> jussi: I'm reading that yes :P
[12:54] <cojack> can some one confirm that export -> import wallets work fine?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:32] <jonny_> Hey guys
[13:33] <lordievader> o/
[13:35] <jonny_> in php you can do $hey += 'hey'
[13:35] <jonny_> how is this done in javascript?
[13:39] <Pici> jonny_: ##javascript would be a better place than #kubuntu to ask.
[13:39] <jonny_> I'll ask there
[13:39] <lordievader> jonny_: I suppose this topic is better suited to ##javascript (from the top of my head "$hey = $hey + 'blaat';" works)
[13:40] <jonny_> Never mind
[13:58] <An_Ony_Moose> what should I use to install kubuntu from a basic ubuntu system (no desktop)? Tasksel?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> An_Ony_Moose, do you want a desktop? , if so install kubuntu-desktop
[14:04] <BluesKaj> An_Ony_Moose, kubuntu is ubuntu , but uses kde rather than unity or gnome
[14:12] <cojack> can some one confirm that export -> import wallets work fine?
[14:16] <An_Ony_Moose> BluesKaj: I know :) I just have a debootstrapped system and was wondering how to then install the kubuntu desktop on top of that
[14:16] <An_Ony_Moose> BluesKaj: thanks
[14:20] <lordievader> An_Ony_Moose: That was the way I did with ym debootstapped system ;)
[14:21] <An_Ony_Moose> lordievader: thanks!
[15:00] <ChrisFR06> Other question ? is it possible that newer kernels make some pcs slower ? I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 so kernel 3.13 and it was SUPER LAGGY so I had to install kernel 3.12 and now I'm running smoothly, is this normal?????
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> no one here I guess
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> :(
[16:54] <noaXess_mobile> hey all
[16:54] <lordievader> o/
[16:54] <noaXess_mobile> i have a package which i can't remove anymore.. check this bug,, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1310344
[16:54] <noaXess_mobile> how can i forec remove that package?
[16:54] <tgm4883> noaXess_mobile: you'll need to edit one file
[16:55] <noaXess_mobile> okey.. which one?
[16:55] <tgm4883> IIRC, should be /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythweb.postrm
[16:55] <noaXess_mobile> tgm4883: let me check..
[16:55] <tgm4883> noaXess_mobile: I believe line 36 should start with 'rm -f<somethign>' right?
[16:56] <tgm4883> make it 'rm -f <somethign>'   (add a space after the '-f')
[16:57] <noaXess_mobile> tgm4883: jep.. will test
[16:57] <noaXess_mobile> yeah ;) thanks tgm4883
[16:58] <tgm4883> yw
[17:02] <TheFakeazneD525> Hmm, I wonder....
[17:03] <TheFakeazneD525> would independant advertising of Kubuntu be legal? if the advertiser wasn't making money off said adverts?
[17:25] <bennypr0fane_> hello, I'm trying to figure out which is the command for starting the KDE instant messenger from the terminal can anyone help me with that?
[17:29] <tsimpson> bennypr0fane_: I guess you're talking about ktp-contactlist?
[17:33] <bennypr0fane_> tsimpson: that's the problem, I'm not even sure what the correct name of the program is. I mean just the default IM application that comes with Kubuntu 14.04
[17:33] <tsimpson> bennypr0fane_: well "KDE IM Contacts" is ktp-contacts
[17:33] <bennypr0fane_> in my German interface, it'S called "KDE Instant Messenger Contacts
[17:33] <bennypr0fane_> ok
[17:34] <bennypr0fane_> didn't Kopete used to be the default in KDE?
[17:35] <bennypr0fane_> anyways, I can't get an XMPP connection...
[17:36] <bennypr0fane_> I see, ktp-contactlist works for launching it
[17:37] <tsimpson> yeah Kopete was the default, but KDE (and everyone else) is moving towards the Telepathy framework
[17:38] <bennypr0fane_> tsimpson: can you make anything of this output? http://pastie.org/9128402
[17:40] <bennypr0fane_> What's an XMPP client you would recommend, that can also make video calls?
[17:41] <tsimpson> KTP works for me, at least with an existing xmpp account
[17:41] <tsimpson> Kopete is still in in the repos and still works if you want it
[17:42] <tsimpson> I'd suggest asking in #kde-telepathy about those messages, I can't figure out what they mean
[17:55] <bennypr0fane_> tsimpson: thanks, will try that
[18:05] <pedahzur> Does anyone know if 4.13.0 packages are in progress for Precise (12.04)?  I see them for Saucy, but not for Precise.  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports  Riddell?
[18:06] <_gem_> hi
[18:07] <lordievader> o/
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> Precise is being replaced with Trusty 14.04.1
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> iirc
[18:11] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: True but Precise is still being supported till April 2017.
[18:11] <TheFakeazneD525> :O
[18:12] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:13] <pedahzur> Do the LTS releases no longer have a Desktop/Server split?
[18:14] <lordievader> pedahzur: No.
[18:15] <pedahzur> lordievader: Cool.
[18:15] <lordievader> Now it is for both desktop and server 5 years for the lts, 9 months for non-lts.
[18:16] <pedahzur> lordievader: As much as I admire that...supporting a desktop environment for five years could be painful.
[18:17] <TheFakeazneD525> ^
[18:17] <lordievader> Hehe you should hear apachelogger about it :P
[18:17] <TheFakeazneD525> ya gotta admire Canonical
[18:17] <TheFakeazneD525> for all the bs they get, they're probably the best about supporting legacy systems
[18:17] <pedahzur> Yup.
[19:23] <ozie> i tried to uninstall network-manager and install wicd because it had problems, but now plasma-desktop is crashing every time i start it (so i had to install gnome)
[19:23] <ozie> reinstalling network-manager/removing wicd did not fix the issue
[19:25] <ozie> i'm on kubuntu 14.04
[19:28] <ozie> how can i reinstall kde? removing kubuntu-desktop package doesn't remove anything
[20:44] <Riddell> pedahzur: yep, in staging, testing needed
[21:04] <pedahzur> Riddell: Very cool, thanks.
[22:36] <valorie> !pure
[22:36] <valorie> !pure kde
[22:36] <DarthFrog> !purekde
[22:37] <valorie> ah
[22:37] <valorie> I knew there was something close....
[22:37] <valorie> the guy is gone, though


[16:43] <tomreyn> Since you're voiced here, I assume you know why i won't discuss this topic in #ubuntu.
[16:43] <tomreyn> ^ Pricey
[16:45] <Pricey> sigh
[18:47] <el> ?
[18:49] <dax> el: #ubuntu, starting at 16:19 UTC (it's currently 18:49 UTC)
[18:49] <dax> and ending at 16:46
[18:49] <dax> i don't think any further action is needed
[18:54] <el> ah
[18:54] <el> indeed not