[08:53] <ivoks> bodaciousb try -8
[08:53] <dabaSlon> ivoks, let me ask you something, you from Zagreb?
[08:53] <nevyn> changing niceness on 2.6 has radically different characteristics to previous versions of linux.
[08:53] <ivoks> bodaciousb ah...
[08:53] <ivoks> bodaciousb put sudo in front
[08:54] <ivoks> bodaciousb sudo renice -p `pidof quake3.x86` -10
[08:54] <jordanau> Nalioth, my question was are there any scripts that do this, there must not be, thanks for answering my question.
[08:54] <bodaciousb> ivoks, ok =P
[08:54] <ivoks> bodaciousb users can't put so high priority
[08:54] <ivoks> dabaSlon yes
[08:54] <dabaSlon> jordan, there is a command.
[08:54] <dabaSlon> ivoks: which part?
[08:54] <ivoks> dabaSlon gornja dubrava
[08:54] <dabaSlon> I am from Trnje, sigechica, originally.
[08:54] <Amaranth> -10 isn't a bad value but X and esd are going to hate you if you put something at -10 and leave them at 0
[08:54] <thegreedyturtle> afternoon ivokx
[08:54] <dabaSlon> Ok...
[08:54] <ivoks> dabaSlon novi zagreb?
[08:55] <dabaSlon> No, like, autobusni...
[08:55] <ivoks> Amaranth f** esd :)
[08:55] <dabaSlon> Do you work for any of the computer companies in zZagreb?
[08:55] <jordanau> dabaSlon, may i ask what this command is?
[08:55] <ivoks> dabaSlon yes
[08:55] <bodaciousb> ivoks, it still says -10 is bad =P but the priority is currently 0
[08:55] <Amaranth> ivoks: you'd like your sound to skip?
[08:55] <ivoks> Amaranth u use esd?
[08:55] <dabaSlon> the mount thing, let me read your question again.
[08:55] <mmichelli> hi i'm trying to use the "apt-get update" so i can install puredata and all of it's dependencies; but when i do i get an error telling me the key was not present? any idea's
[08:55] <ivoks> hehe
[08:55] <dabaSlon> ivoks: which one, then?
[08:55] <Nalioth> jordanau, why would you need a script? wouldnt' you like your win32 part mounted all the time?
[08:55] <Amaranth> ivoks: Yes, for the mixing
[08:56] <ivoks> Amaranth use alsa for that
[08:56] <Amaranth> ivoks: It's actually polypaudio in hoary, but still
[08:56] <Amaranth> ivoks: dmix has issues
[08:56] <ivoks> Amaranth i tried it
[08:56] <ivoks> it needs development
[08:56] <jordanau> Nalioth, i just wanted to try making a script that will detect a harddrive and edit the fstab for you. A simple one time use script
[08:56] <Amaranth> ivoks: plus, the code for using esd has been around longer than the code for using alsa
[08:56] <dabaSlon> oh, jordan, like a script for automatically mounting window partitions...
[08:56] <ivoks> dabaSlon kaj je?!
[08:56] <Nalioth> mmichelli, this is just telling you it can not be verified via the packagers pgp key
[08:56] <dabaSlon> there is a file that gets loaded every time you boot.
[08:56] <Nalioth> jordanau, for external HDs?
[08:57] <ivoks> Amaranth but esd is very badly written
[08:57] <jordanau> dabaSlon, right fstab
[08:57] <Nalioth> jordanau, i'm confused
[08:57] <rics> hello
[08:57] <cmg_> having an awful time trying to configure X.. it won't create my xorg.conf.. any idea what I can do?
[08:57] <wm_eddie> who would I contact if I want to mention an interesting program that could replace the Ubuntu Monthly Calendar with something more integrated?
[08:57] <Amaranth> ivoks: That's debatable but the code for using esd is stable and most of the code for using alsa is of unknown quality
[08:57] <jordanau> Nalioth, okay, how many people get on this chat everyday trying to mount a windows partition on their new ubuntu install?
[08:57] <rics> It's my first time running UBUNTU! It's great!
[08:57] <mmichelli> Nalioth: so i can just ignore it then?
[08:57] <jordanau> Nalioth, i want to automate that process for the hell of it
[08:57] <ivoks> Amaranth ALSA is here very long...
[08:57] <jordanau> rics, congratulations
[08:57] <ivoks> Amaranth long before 2.6
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> actually - it saw all my windows partions i belive.. and i plug in a usb drive and it sees them also.
[08:58] <Amaranth> ivoks: It'll be better when KDE and GNOME and all the apps for them are using gstreamer though
[08:58] <Nalioth>  mmichelli if you like. some users are very security concious
[08:58] <cmg_> ive setup like a dozen Warty systems and never had a prob with X.. this is my first Hoary install and I am about 4 hours into configuration hell
[08:58] <Amaranth> ivoks: That doesn't mean apps were targeting it. esd used it and apps used esd
[08:58] <dabaSlon> jordan, right, so, what wopuld the script do?
[08:58] <Funraiser> I almost install Flight simulator 2004 on Ubuntu...jeez i was almost there
[08:58] <ivoks> Amaranth polypaudio will be unique soud server for KDE 4 and Gnome 3
[08:58] <mmichelli> Nalioth: cool, and how do i get it to install all the dependencies?
[08:58] <rics> jordanau, I'm testing everything here!!!
[08:58] <dabaSlon> you mean, like take parameters, and append to the file?
[08:58] <ivoks> Amaranth and esd uses alsa :)
[08:59] <nevyn> cmg_: :(
[08:59] <Amaranth> ivoks: The sound server doesn't matter, they're both using gstreamer
[08:59] <cmg_> this is awful.. i was such a huge Ubuntu supporter until this
[08:59] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: MS flight simulator has lots of stuff that stop it from running in Cedega.
[08:59] <wm_eddie> unfortunately.
[08:59] <jordanau> dabaSlon, yeah, it sees the hard drive, asks you about permissions, and writes the corresponding info to fstab
[08:59] <tritium> cmg_, did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[08:59] <Amaranth> ivoks: I know, I'm saying the code for random apps to use alsa is relatively new and sometimes contains nasty bugs while the code for using esd has been around for a long time.
[08:59] <ivoks> Amaranth alsa uses gstreamer?!
[08:59] <cmg_> trit.. ive ran it well over 50 times now
[08:59] <Amaranth> ivoks: No, gstreamer uses alsa....
[09:00] <tritium> cmg_, have you edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand?
[09:00] <ivoks> Amaranth yeah... i tought u lost ur mind :)
[09:00] <rics> Tem algum do BRASIL aqui?
[09:00] <cmg_> i don't know what/how to edit it since I don't have a working version
[09:00] <ivoks> bye guys
[09:00] <Nalioth> jordanau get out your #! /bin/bash pencil and start figgerin
[09:00] <ivoks> time to catch some girls :)
[09:00] <Amaranth> ivoks: KDE 4 and GNONE will/do use gstreamer so the sound server doesn't matter as much. You can use alsa, oss, esd, whatever in gstreamer and the apps shouldn't care.
[09:00] <tritium> cmg_, but did you ever?
[09:00] <Amaranth> ivoks: bye
[09:00] <cmg_> no
[09:00] <cmg_> never
[09:00] <ivoks> Amaranth that's even better
[09:00] <BWGames> jeez "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (a.k.a. woody) was released on 19th of July, 2002. " :|
[09:00] <jordanau> Nalioth, actually i was thinking about python
[09:00] <Nalioth> mmichelli, you may have to build from source the dependencys
[09:01] <tritium> cmg_, you need to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[09:01] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, i didn't know
[09:01] <Amaranth> BWGames: I remember when that was new. :/
[09:01] <cmg_> i even reinstalled the whole OS from scratch to see if i had a botched setup
[09:01] <Nalioth> mmichelli, using "apt-get source -b <package_name>"
[09:01] <mmichelli> Nalioth: oh
[09:01] <ivoks> Amaranth mplayer and xine people would need to write something new then :)
[09:01] <dabaSlon> jordan, you can try...
[09:01] <BWGames> is debian still a good choice? :/
[09:01] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: There's a MUCH better sim out there though.
[09:01] <BWGames> I can't do the Ubuntu install :(
[09:01] <mmichelli> Nalioth: -b does??
[09:01] <Nalioth> jordanau, hiss, scribble or pe(a)rl(s),
[09:01] <Amaranth> ivoks: mplayer and xine suck ;)
[09:01] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, it's my first try with cedega, i hope next will be more fortunate
[09:01] <cmg_> trit.. one thing I do notice.. when I run xorg reconfigure, I get an error in the terminal
[09:01] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: It's called X-Plane check it out.
[09:01] <Nalioth> mmichelli, -b build
[09:02] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: X-Plane has a linux build too.
[09:02] <ivoks> Amaranth xine is the best... mplayer... well... it's ok
[09:02] <demantik> Does anybody know where i can get the WMV codec/lib ?
[09:02] <Amaranth> ivoks: except for wmv3 if gstreamer doesn't support it vlc will do better than mplayer or xine
[09:02] <tritium> cmg_, I don't see your messages to me when you use "trit"
[09:02] <mmichelli> oh thank you very much i'll try that
[09:02] <mmichelli> :)
[09:02] <tritium> cmg_, which error?
[09:02] <cmg_> tritium sorry
[09:02] <Nalioth> mmichelli, i run ubuntu on a iBook, and have had to build several pkgs from source (cuz nobody creates binaries for PPC)
[09:02] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, much better? x-plane has the radio talks?
[09:02] <mmichelli> Nalioth:
[09:02] <tritium> cmg_, it's okay.  just use tab-completion, please
[09:02] <Amaranth> ivoks: But I work on a project with a vlc hacker so he might have made be biased. :)
[09:02] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, x-plane is open source or prop?
[09:02] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: Although I can't say too much about the way they handle joystick buttons, it might have been fixed by now though.
[09:02] <Nalioth> wmv3 sux
[09:02] <root1_> hi
[09:03] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: Proprietary, and Commercial.
[09:03] <Amaranth> Nalioth: Yes, yes it does.
[09:03] <Amaranth> Nalioth: h.264 is much better :)
[09:03] <cmg_> tritium it says "cp: cannot stat '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' no such file or directory'
[09:03] <dabaSlon> hey root1_
[09:03] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: It's better in the physics realm.
[09:03] <dabaSlon> so, can  you sudo now?
[09:03] <ivoks> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:03] <ivoks> bye
[09:03] <Nalioth> Amaranth, opensource is always better
[09:03] <tritium> cmg_, oh, wow
[09:03] <dabaSlon> bye
[09:03] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, do u know if there is the radio talking ?
[09:03] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: Like flying on MARS!
[09:03] <tritium> cmg_, this is after a fresh install?
[09:03] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: They have a fake radio loop.
[09:03] <cmg_> tritium, brand new
[09:04] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, i'll check
[09:04] <Amaranth> Nalioth: That isn't true at all. h.264 (and the rest of mpeg4, arguably) is better than theora.
[09:04] <root1_> dabaSlon, i tried to log in with the root but i got a message says "you cant login as admin ,,,, from here"
[09:04] <tritium> cmg_, did the install complete without any apparent errors?  It should not leave you without an xorg.conf file
[09:04] <cmg_> tritium, but /etc/X11/xorg.conf is right there
[09:04] <Funraiser> wm_eddie, the radio is really awesome in FS
[09:04] <Nalioth> Amaranth, i'm probably lost. h264 is closed?
[09:04] <cmg_> tritium, it didn't.. i have one
[09:04] <demantik> Where can i get Luminocity? and has anybody here have anything to say about it ?
[09:04] <Jimmothy> i'm having a problem with dvds. i have libdvdcss2, and dvds skip, so i read the wiki and enabled dma, but i get this;  setting using_dma to 1 (on)  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted bout it ?
[09:04] <Jimmothy>  [20:04:48]  [Jimmothy(+ei)]  [4:#ubuntu(+Pcnt)]  [Act: 2]  [509 / *0 @4 %0 +0 505]
[09:04] <Jimmothy> oops
[09:04] <Amaranth> Nalioth: It's a part of mpeg4. It's open but patent encumbered.
[09:05] <dabaSlon> root1_: right, you cant login as root, yet, anyhow...have you installed your own ubuntu?
[09:05] <Nalioth> Amaranth, thats where my confusion was "open but closed"
[09:05] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: Yeah but, can you fly in MARS!?
[09:05] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:05] <Funraiser> i'll try Rome Total war next on cedega and swat 4
[09:05] <Funraiser> just to check
[09:05] <wm_eddie> (And not Mars, PA mind you.  The actual planet)
[09:05] <Amaranth> swat 4 was fun for a couple minutes
[09:05] <dabaSlon> and you are sure that you chose this exact user when asked to add one during installation?
[09:06] <Amaranth> then one of my guys ran in front of me while i was shooting and my partners killed me
[09:06] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:06] <cmg_> tritium, any ideas?
[09:06] <demantik> root1 - have you set a root password? changed the default.
[09:06] <tritium> cmg_, are you're not forgetting to use sudo?
[09:06] <Jimmothy> any dvd help?
[09:06] <wm_eddie> demantik: don't say stupid things
[09:06] <Funraiser> Amaranth, yeah it's fun with friends though
[09:06] <demantik> lol
[09:06] <dabaSlon> hm...anyone have a clue why a user that was added during installation would not be allowed to sudo, and what to do to go around it?
[09:07] <cmg_> tritium, i am running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  and i am running that from a root terminal
[09:07] <bodaciousb> anyone here fimiliar with cvscedega?
[09:07] <dabaSlon> Jimmothy: the wiki you read, was it the restricted formats one?
[09:07] <Funraiser> well u can have a root password, different from the user (sudo) password
[09:07] <Jimmothy> dabaSlon: yes
[09:07] <dabaSlon> ok, just checking.
[09:07] <dabaSlon> :)
[09:07] <tritium> cmg_, that sounds very odd.  I need to go for a while.  Will you be around later/
[09:08] <tritium> ?
[09:08] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: Yeah but, if you are going to stick to the Ubuntu way of doing things, no root is better.
[09:08] <dabaSlon> Funraiser: and that is not the one that is used when you sudo, though...
[09:08] <cmg_> tritium, ok.. thanks anyways
[09:08] <dabaSlon> and that tells me nothing btw on what to do...
[09:08] <Jimmothy> dabaSlon: the dma thing isn't working, so my movie jerks and gradually unsyncs
[09:08] <tritium> cmg_, I'll look for you when I get back.
[09:08] <cmg_> tritium, thanks
[09:08] <cmg_> having an awful time trying to configure X.. it won't create my xorg.conf.. any idea what I can do?
[09:08] <IcemanV9> cmg_: try to run command in non-root (normal) terminal
[09:09] <cmg_> IcemanV9, ok.. i'll try.. im desparate at this point
[09:09] <Funraiser> i hope more and more people will use cedega, linux needs more games
[09:09] <IcemanV9> cmg_: understood. i was like that earlier this week. :)
[09:10] <dabaSlon> ok, I know, root1_
[09:10] <bodaciousb> Funraiser, i hope no one buys cedega
[09:10] <dabaSlon> you know your root password?
[09:10] <dabaSlon> well, anyhow, we can try..
[09:10] <Funraiser> bodaciousb, well the source code is available
[09:10] <Nalioth> Funraiser, why do you wish cedega for linux to get more games?
[09:10] <bodaciousb> Funraiser, and i for one am boycotting windows games, i will not buy another one that is not linux native
[09:10] <dabaSlon> root1_: ok, to switch terminals. you can hold down alt+ctrl, and then hit f1for example...
[09:10] <Nalioth> the game coders need to release more for linux for us to have more games
[09:10] <bodaciousb> Funraiser, so hopefully in the future there will be no need for cedega
[09:10] <wm_eddie> Funraiser: People just need to let the companies know that they use Linux and would appreciate perhaps a native linux port of a game.
[09:11] <root1_> dabaSlon ok
[09:11] <dabaSlon> root1_: 1-6 are just terminals, and f7-onward are GUIs.
[09:11] <dabaSlon> so, alt+ctrl+f1 will take you to a terminal, and try signing in as root.
[09:11] <dabaSlon> and to come back
[09:11] <cmg_> IcemanV9, same thing happened
[09:11] <Funraiser> that's the egg and the chicken thing...more games > more people > more games
[09:11] <dabaSlon> hit alt+ctrl+f7
[09:11] <wm_eddie> The more people do that, the more companies will pay attention.
[09:11] <rics> Enemy Territory is just fine for me! Don't need more games! heheheh
[09:11] <rics> lol
[09:12] <dabaSlon> hopefully in the future you will stop wasting your time on games:-P
[09:12] <bodaciousb> rics, i have that but i cant get it to work, it looked really fun though
[09:12] <metalsand> wow
[09:12] <IcemanV9> cmg_: w0w. ok.
[09:12] <Funraiser> i can't boycotte windows games...one can't boycott splinter cell chaos...this is genius work
[09:12] <metalsand> The police just came to my house
[09:12] <rics> bodaciousb, never tried in linux! But its the best game ever!!!
[09:12] <metalsand> to my door
[09:12] <metalsand> into my room
[09:12] <mmichelli> can anyone direct me to a good dvd ripping program that a noob like me can install
[09:12] <cmg_> IcemanV9, is there another way to configure X?
[09:13] <dabaSlon> haha metalsand. I knew you were troubled...
[09:13] <wm_eddie> mmichelli: dvdrip
[09:13] <root1_> dabaSlon, ok i logged in so
[09:13] <dabaSlon> with your 2 wireless cards in one laptop...
[09:13] <wm_eddie> get it on synaptic
[09:13] <IcemanV9> cmg_: yes. 'Xorg -configure'
[09:13] <dabaSlon> ok, so you are root?
[09:13] <metalsand> rofl
[09:13] <cmg_> this is crazy.. i've never had a prob with any distro on this box.. including Warty
[09:13] <metalsand> Daba, wasn't anything about that :P
[09:13] <dabaSlon> root1_: you are root on that console?
[09:13] <cmg_> IcemanV9, ok.. let me try that
[09:13] <bodaciousb> rics, nice.... i have a suspicion that my router is to blame... but yeah it looked like a fps where you level up and stuff like an rpg =)
[09:13] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:13] <metalsand> They actually mentioned that when they saw a 10 dBI omni antenna connected to my laptop on my bed
[09:13] <dabaSlon> sweet...
[09:13] <dabaSlon> add that folder now finally.
[09:13] <IcemanV9> cmg_: u have to kill X & gdm 1st, then run the command
[09:13] <Funraiser> if there was a way the games would play easily...linux would be mainstream already
[09:13] <dabaSlon> mkdir /media/mp3
[09:14] <dabaSlon> or something.
[09:14] <cmg_> IcemanV9, how do I do that?
[09:14] <Funraiser> well gota go
[09:14] <mmichelli> anybody know a good dvd ripping program that's new user friendly? please
[09:14] <rics> bodaciousb, you have diferente abilities to choose in the game... Engineer, soldier, covert ops...
[09:14] <root1_> dabaSlon, ok ,, ?
[09:14] <Slaven> I have a situation here. :O
[09:14] <Funraiser> see ya
[09:14] <rics> bodaciousb, its pretty fun
[09:14] <IcemanV9> cmg_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:14] <bodaciousb> Funraiser, it is easy, ive been on linux for a week =P theres just not enough developers making linux games
[09:14] <cmg_> k
[09:14] <IcemanV9> cmg_: then logout
[09:14] <bodaciousb> ID software rocks.... always has
[09:14] <no0tic> how to enable postfix startup at boot?
[09:14] <demantik> How do i get access to the gnome cvs ?
[09:15] <Slaven> Seems I need libqt3-mt. Yet, installing it threatens removing all my qt packages.
[09:15] <IcemanV9> cmg_: then you're back to login prompt terminal.
[09:15] <bodaciousb> demantik, sudo apt-get install cvs?
[09:15] <wm_eddie> mmichelli: I don't think there are any in existance.
[09:15] <dabaSlon> added it I suppose...
[09:15] <dabaSlon> ?
[09:15] <wm_eddie> mmichelli: Every program I used was really complicated.
[09:15] <root1_> dabaSlon yup
[09:15] <demantik> no no..i have cvs installed...but how do i get a pass...to the gnome cvs...maybe im not getting something...but i cant login.
[09:15] <cmg_> IcemanV9, ok im there.. at the login
[09:15] <mmichelli> : that's too bad ,
[09:15] <Slaven> Because I guess it replaces some other libqt-package or something.
[09:16] <dabaSlon> mount /dev/hdb /media/mp3-t vfat -o umask=000
[09:16] <IcemanV9> cmg_: run 'Xorg -configure' .. you should have a new xorg.conf
[09:16] <cmg_> k
[09:16] <dabaSlon> if that is the directory name you created.
[09:16] <bodaciousb> demantik, oh i dont know about the gnome cvs, but usually passwords are cvs =)
[09:16] <Slaven> Can I like get libqt3-mt in there, seemlessly? ;)
[09:16] <demantik> hmm ok
[09:16] <dabaSlon> we have to tweak that now...
[09:16] <mmichelli> wm_eddie: i was hoping to get something like i used before cloneDVD
[09:16] <wm_eddie> mmichelli: wxvlc might be pretty easy for a noob to use.
[09:16] <wm_eddie> mmichelli: do you have a URL to that?
[09:16] <demantik> im just trying to get jhbuild...which i need to get luminocity..
[09:16] <cmg_> IcemanV9, do i have to do sudo?
[09:17] <IcemanV9> cmg_: yes.
[09:17] <cmg_> k
[09:17] <mmichelli> went to google, sure i'll find it
[09:17] <mmichelli> thank you
[09:18] <[ADULT_SWIM] > anyone know how to pump out an error ist in cedega?
[09:18] <cmg_> IcemanV9, missing output drivers, configuration failed
[09:18] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i'm testing a game and it's not running right
[09:18] <lotusleaf> Cool, only 23 hours left in my ubuntu download ;)
[09:18] <bodaciousb> is anyone in here using cvscedega?
[09:18] <dabaSlon> root1_: mine worked
[09:18] <dabaSlon> yours
[09:18] <dabaSlon> ?
[09:18] <[ADULT_SWIM] > whats cvscedega?/
[09:18] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i'm usin cedega
[09:18] <IIIEars> it is a windows emulatoe
[09:18] <[ADULT_SWIM] > not shure about the cvs part though
[09:18] <bodaciousb> [ADULT_SWIM] , the cvs(free) version of cedega =)
[09:18] <dabaSlon> heh
[09:19] <[ADULT_SWIM] > oh
[09:19] <dabaSlon> current versioning system
[09:19] <IcemanV9> cmg_: man. ur the second person who have that error msg today. for that one, i do not know why it happened.
[09:19] <dabaSlon> probably the most up to date version, unstable??
[09:19] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i don't know what version i'm usin a freind gave me mine
[09:19] <IcemanV9> cmg_: looks like i have a homework to find that dang solution.
[09:19] <cmg_> IcemanV9, damn.. i'm screwed
[09:19] <root1_> dabaSlon, nope
[09:19] <bodaciousb> im having probs getting it to work properly, im thinking that it requires Wine to be installed also, but im not sure
[09:19] <dabaSlon> ok, error?
[09:19] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i was tryin to test a version of ragnarok but it keeps crashing
[09:19] <demantik> what form do cvs releases come in?....source?...
[09:20] <dabaSlon> try making it this exactly....
[09:20] <[ADULT_SWIM] > how to get cedega to put out an error list?
[09:20] <IcemanV9> cmg_: however, tritium is right. it shouldn't happen when you fresh install the ubuntu.
[09:20] <dabaSlon> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=000
[09:20] <dabaSlon> without sudo
[09:20] <IcemanV9> cmg_: let me google a bit ..
[09:20] <cmg_> IcemanV9, i've done 2 installs of it.. same thing both times
[09:20] <dabaSlon> mount /dev/hda1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=000
[09:20] <dabaSlon> exactly as it says there.
[09:20] <dabaSlon> I mounted mine.
[09:20] <bodaciousb> demantik, cvs is cedega 3.30 i think, but its a program ready to rock.... allthough i am using a scrip off of linux-gamers.org, so it may come as a source, and this script isdoing the dirty work for me
[09:20] <dabaSlon> although it is a little different, but yours should work...
[09:21] <cmg_> IcemanV9, MUCH appreciated.. I'm like 10 mins away from downloading Fedora :(
[09:21] <demantik> ahh alright
[09:21] <dabaSlon> I gotta go get smokes at the corner store, ETA 10ish minutes...
[09:21] <[ADULT_SWIM] > so anyone have an idea?
[09:21] <bodaciousb> i jsut want to run steam in linux,  if i can accomplish that i have absolutely no need for my windows partition
[09:21] <cmg_> IcemanV9, i was happy on Warty but I fried my hard disk yesterday and am fixing it.. figured it would be a great time to try Hoary
[09:21] <[ADULT_SWIM] > use cedega
[09:22] <root1_> dabaSlon, /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/mp3 busy
[09:22] <demantik> steam isnt something anybody really WANTS to run though is it :(
[09:22] <[ADULT_SWIM] >  i run counterstrike on it
[09:22] <bodaciousb> hehe
[09:22] <dabaSlon> ok, umount /media/mp3
[09:22] <bodaciousb> well my prob is cvscedega steam_install.exe throws error after error at me
[09:22] <dabaSlon> then try the last one I gavge you, and that should work...
[09:22] <dabaSlon> if not, umount again. and try hdb0...
[09:23] <dabaSlon> or soemthing, tweak it a little while I go get somekes, and then thank me when I come back:)
[09:23] <bodaciousb> im installing wine to go with it... and im hoping htat cvscedega requires it... because i did get that impression from linux-gamers.org forums
[09:23] <bodaciousb> and dx9wine is next
[09:23] <dabaSlon> I think that is a good plan...
[09:24] <dabaSlon> Im skateboarding to the store, so Ill brb.
[09:24] <IcemanV9> cmg_: Hoary is great, really. it really does work on my two laptops.
[09:24] <demantik> hows dx9 performance vs opengl with wine/cedega?
[09:24] <macarthy> hi all
[09:24] <bodaciousb> demantik, i havnt a clue, i havent sucessfully ran anything on cedega or wine yet
[09:25] <bodaciousb> allthough i have linux native ut2k3 installed now, and i cant wait to compare it to the cedega/wine install of it
[09:25] <demantik> my pc is too slow to run much lol..ive tried with the small selection of games i have. i got one or two games to run..very slowly.
[09:25] <macarthy> just installed ubuntu 64 bit - what is the story with mono development packages?
[09:25] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: if you try the jedi outcast demo via wine you can use cheat codes to make stormtroopers appear in a Christ crucified pose, flying in the air and shooting yellow laser beams and other fun stuff.
[09:25] <bodaciousb> im running a radeon 9800 pro
[09:25] <cmg_> IcemanV9, i'm psyched to use it.. I loved Warty.. I just need to get this X hell fixed
[09:25] <veruus> how can I add a new user with permissions to use sudo, or how can I edit permissions for a new user to use sudo?
[09:25] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, sweet
[09:25] <rics> Hi, anyone can help me with the monitor resolution, please?
[09:26] <rics> I want to set the resolution to work with 85Hz but I cant...
[09:26] <narkone> hi
[09:26] <narkone> any spanish
[09:27] <narkone> ?
[09:27] <demantik> anybody have a good guide to installing fglrx on ubuntu hoary?...suse was easy...not successful yet with this..
[09:27] <Nalioth> narkone, en el #ubuntu-es
[09:27] <anto9us> veruus, in "Users and Groups" click user and properties then User Privilages
[09:27] <narkone> thanks
[09:27] <rainer> Hi everybody, I need help!!!!
[09:27] <angie> hello there
[09:27] <demantik> ati...installation help...?
[09:28] <cmg_> IcemanV9, any ideas yet?
[09:28] <bodaciousb> what do you need dem?
[09:28] <angie> having a cpu usage issue with cdrecord... any help?
[09:28] <rainer> No recovery help
[09:28] <demantik> what really is the point of the ati fglrx package available with synaptic...they dont work lol.
[09:28] <bodaciousb> im new to linux and i suck horribly but ive installed ati like 20 times now =P
[09:28] <tritium> cmg_, I'm back
[09:29] <veruus> anto9us: I was hoping for commanline, but I got it straightened out
[09:29] <demantik> bodaciousb - maybe some help then..
[09:29] <veruus> thanks
[09:29] <bodaciousb> demantik, shoot
[09:29] <cmg_> tritium, cool.. Iceman was trying to help.. he told me try running Xorg -configure
[09:29] <angie> with k3b or xcdroast cpu get progressively full... I did not have this problem with straight debian
[09:29] <rainer> I wanted to write an email to ubuntu mailing list when my system just did power down out of the blue
[09:29] <cmg_> tritium, and that errors out
[09:29] <tritium> demantik, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <Nalioth> rainer, heatsink goin bye-bye?
[09:29] <demantik> alright thanks
[09:29] <cmg_> tritium, so i'm stuck :(
[09:30] <rainer> No the Powerbook wasn't overheating, I just had in on for 10 minutes
[09:30] <anto9us> angie: I noticed that too, I think it's something to do with being on a 2.6 kernel
[09:30] <tritium> cmg_, hmm...which architecture and video card?
[09:30] <rainer> and also the power couldn't be the reason, the akku is full loaded and power suplly is connected
[09:30] <bodaciousb> demantik, whats your question?
[09:30] <angie> anto9us: it's a f***ing shame... were you able to fix it?
[09:30] <Nalioth> rainer, ah powerbook. no heat probs there
[09:31] <anto9us> angie: no, it at least worked and I have other priorities :)
[09:31] <cmg_> tritium, its a Dell optiplex.. x86..  integrated video (intel i810)
[09:31] <Nalioth> rainer, i run ubuntu on my old iBook, its great not heating the house in winter
[09:31] <angie> anto9us: nice for you... for me making backups it's really important
[09:31] <rics> Sorry, I close the window
[09:31] <tritium> cmg_, hmm, that shouldn't really be giving you such trouble
[09:31] <krusbjorn> have i gotten this right? i can run the ubuntu "intel x86" version on my AMD64 cpu, right? things are unstable, and i'm too new to linux to set up chroot and stuff...
[09:32] <demantik> bodacious...i just tried simply installing the ati packages via synaptic...which was stupid...didnt do anything but make me have to change my xorg.conf..
[09:32] <demantik> lol
[09:32] <tritium> krusbjorn, yes
[09:32] <krusbjorn> tritium: thanks :)
[09:32] <demantik> ill read through and try the page i just got.
[09:32] <tritium> demantik, did you see the URL I sent you?
[09:32] <IcemanV9> cmg_: no idea as of now .. hope tritium have something more
[09:32] <demantik> yes
[09:32] <demantik> reading now
[09:32] <demantik> thanks
[09:32] <cmg_> tritium, i know.. ive ran like 20 different distros on this box.. and Warty worked great for me.. Hoary just hates me
[09:32] <rics> Why can't I setup my monitor to work in 85Hz?
[09:32] <rainer> Nalioth: my problem is that my whole desktop is screwed up, and I don't know what else....
[09:33] <rainer> bonobo won''t start up is the message I get
[09:33] <dabaSlon> root1_: mounted yet?
[09:33] <bodaciousb> demantik, sorry i didnt see your question earlier, i was waiting fo ryou to ask me =P
[09:33] <IcemanV9> rics: check out the xorg.conf to see if 85Hz is in the range or not
[09:33] <Nalioth> rainer, how old is the powerbook (not that that is gonna make any diff to me) ubuntu installed on my G3/600 iBook just fine
[09:33] <demantik> its ok..
[09:34] <dabaSlon> Nalioth: that is cause you dont have the extreme card...
[09:34] <rainer> Nalioth 5 years now, a Pismo (G3 Powerbook Firewire), didn't have any troubles till today
[09:34] <tony> hi i need help to install java
[09:34] <Nalioth> dabaSlon, that is why ubuntu is not on my new 12" iBook G4
[09:34] <dabaSlon> tony, what java do you want to install?
[09:35] <bodaciousb> demanix use the following 3 commands :  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx    :   depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx        :         sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:35] <Nalioth> rainer, ah so it's something that changed
[09:35] <tritium> cmg_, I'm thinking...
[09:35] <RastaMahata> tony, go to the howto forum
[09:35] <tony> jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin
[09:35] <rics> IcemanV9, where can I find this file?
[09:35] <dabaSlon> that is easy...
[09:35] <tritium> tony, use java-package
[09:35] <anto9us> demantik: you need the linux-restricted-modules
[09:35] <RastaMahata> tony, why dont you download the deb package from backports?
[09:35] <IcemanV9> rics: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:35] <dabaSlon> there is a walkthrough, where did you get the file?
[09:35] <dabaSlon> SUn's site?
[09:35] <tony> where can i find the pacage?
[09:35] <bodaciousb> demantik, sorry i adressed the wrong person =) look up a bit, but thats installs it for me no prob at all
[09:35] <RastaMahata> backports.ubuntuforums.org
[09:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > are there any other critters you can get for amor?/
[09:36] <wnight> smbiod (?) is taking 95% of my cpu - what is it and why is it doing this?
[09:36] <tony> don't know backports?
[09:36] <tritium> tony, you already have the .bin from Sun.  Use java-package to build a .deb from it.
[09:36] <wnight> Related to SMB I guess...
[09:36] <macarthy> tony: somethings like http://www.maccarthy.org/blog/2004/09/08/installing-java-onto-debian/
[09:36] <rainer> Nalioth: can't say what, I didn't change anything, ok last night there was an update and I installed cinepaint, but that shouldn't be a problem, or?
[09:36] <tritium> tony, essentiall, Method 3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[09:36] <tritium> essentially, that is ;)
[09:36] <Nalioth> rainer, sorry i know next-to-nothing about display/X issues
[09:36] <root1_> dabaSlon, according to mtab /dev/hda1 already mounted
[09:36] <macarthy> tony: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MonoDevelopmentHowto
[09:36] <dabaSlon> hda, yes...
[09:36] <dabaSlon> thats this hard disk.
[09:37] <RastaMahata> tritium, I was never able to do those instructions as they were written for warty
[09:37] <dabaSlon> hdb is gonna be the otehr one
[09:37] <RastaMahata> :(
[09:37] <macarthy> are there no mono libs for ubuntu 64 bit?
[09:37] <dabaSlon> tony, it is pretty easy, as long as you follow some steps.
[09:37] <tritium> RastaMahata, essentially, you can just install java-package, and follow its documentation
[09:37] <root1_> dabaSlon, ok so,,
[09:37] <macarthy> monodev I should say
[09:37] <rics> IcemanV9, Section "monitor" right?
[09:37] <RastaMahata> tony, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb
[09:38] <rics> IcemanV9, Where can I found more info on how do configure this file?  I just love my ubuntu, but probably this issue says I should take the weekend off and relax and don't mind about computer problems any more
[09:38] <dabaSlon> tony, I would just unpack the files, move them to a folder...
[09:38] <cmg_> tritium, is it a problem with X you think?  can i get a newer version?
[09:38] <dabaSlon> and link them to /bin...
[09:38] <Nalioth> rainer sounds good, and something may come to mind while you're relaxing
[09:38] <RastaMahata> tritium, new users should know linux is usable without the command line already ;)
[09:38] <IcemanV9> rics: do u see HorizSync? VertRefresh?
[09:38] <tritium> cmg_, no, I don't believe it's a problem with X.org.  Many people are using it successfully with your chipset
[09:39] <dabaSlon> and add the plugin to firefox, and add a JAVA_HOME variable.
[09:39] <Nalioth> RastaMahata, yes it is, but the terminal is still my best friend
[09:39] <tony> i tried to move them
[09:39] <IcemanV9> rics: man xorg.conf :)
[09:39] <dabaSlon> I would not go about any crazy backports, or converions...
[09:39] <tritium> RastaMahata, backports are unadvisable, particularly when it comes to upgrading to new releases
[09:39] <rainer> Natlioth: That's true, thanks anyway! See you! Ciao!
[09:39] <RastaMahata> tritium, that's ben fixed already
[09:39] <RastaMahata> been, too
[09:39] <tritium> RastaMahata, still an issue
[09:39] <dabaSlon> tony, this site gives a walkthrough that is good enough for me personally: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[09:39] <cmg_> tritium, I'm not positive I have intel i810.. but that is what x.org is detecting.. should I open my case to verify?
[09:39] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes i tried it and its says according to mtab ,,,, is already mounted
[09:40] <wnight> lsof is freezing! I need some help with this.
[09:40] <dabaSlon> hm...for hdb?
[09:40] <rics> IcemanV9, Yes, I see it! :) But in my monitors manual I only have reference to a refresh rate of 85 (at least 75)
[09:40] <tritium> cmg_, no, try lspci, but don't open the box.
[09:40] <lotusleaf> it's easy to upgrade ubuntu to newer versions without having to perform fresh installs, right?
[09:40] <RastaMahata> tritium, installing java for me was as easy as apt-getting in... the firefox plugin was a command away.. :)
[09:41] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:41] <demantik> BACK!...appears to be working
[09:41] <IcemanV9> rics: ok. what's the nbr stated in xorg.conf then?
[09:41] <tony> tx dabaslon
[09:41] <tritium> RastaMahata, java-package is simple to use.  The real issue is that Sun's licensing prohibits java from being included in an official repo
[09:41] <demantik> that was easy...
[09:41] <cmg_> tritium, it says intel 82810E.. that is intel i810?
[09:41] <tritium> cmg_, yep
[09:41] <RastaMahata> tritium, backports isnt official
[09:41] <dabaSlon> root1_: locate *.mp3 may tell you where the files are, if really mounted...
[09:41] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, yes
[09:41] <tritium> RastaMahata, I know
[09:42] <lotusleaf> Nalioth: thx ;-)
[09:42] <dabaSlon> welcome tony, those are known to work...
[09:42] <Nalioth> dabaSlon, doesnt that depend on how long its been mounted?
[09:42] <dabaSlon> not sure.
[09:42] <rics> IcemanV9, sorry, cant understand what nbr means... :(
[09:42] <Scorpion> what's a good media player for divx, ogm, mp3 etc...
[09:42] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, then get on the ubuntu wagon!
[09:42] <transgress> okay i'm looking at getting a wireless pci card for my desktop... anyone have any suggestions as to what type would be most linux friendly...
[09:43] <rics> IcemanV9, I'm from Brasil... :(
[09:43] <IcemanV9> rics: number .. what did it said?
[09:43] <IcemanV9> rics: sorry. :)
[09:43] <tony> it 's connecting now
[09:43] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, two words "smart upgrade"
[09:43] <root1_> dabaSlon, nothing there
[09:43] <cmg_> tritium, should I try to hack my xorg.conf by hand?  since reconfigure isnt working?
[09:43] <dabaSlon> root1_: does your umount work when you umount /media/mp3?
[09:43] <Hoxzer> Is there any software for linux that I can use for connect between my self phone and PC ?
[09:43] <tritium> cmg_, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors before you do that
[09:44] <lotusleaf> Nalioth: I am, I'm downloading ubuntu via 56k! :)
[09:44] <Hoxzer> "connecting"
[09:44] <root1_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:44] <Hoxzer> sso....
[09:44] <IcemanV9> rics: like VertRefresh     70-90
[09:44] <wnight> j #mandrake
[09:44] <demantik> Anybody know of any good NATIVE linux games?
[09:44] <cmg_> tritium, what should I belooking for?
[09:44] <lotusleaf> Nalioth: now, if my download finishes before shipit sends the CDs, I hope I win a prize. ;)
[09:44] <dabaSlon> mi9ne does not.
[09:44] <dabaSlon> let me see
[09:44] <anto9us> demantik: tux racer
[09:44] <demantik> LOL
[09:44] <demantik> screw tux racer
[09:44] <root1_> dabaSlon, i just want to use my other hd
[09:45] <zerokarmaleft> demantik, gnugo, gnuchess, and nethack
[09:45] <transgress> armagetron
[09:45] <lotusleaf> demantik: Enemy Territory
[09:45] <forsaker8k6> hi people
[09:45] <tritium> cmg_, any errors (EE)
[09:45] <demantik> i havent played it, but Savage looks alright
[09:45] <transgress> ut2k4
[09:45] <macarthy> 64bit ubuntu and beagle/mono = problem????
[09:45] <demantik> yeah i played enemy territory....its good..will have to reinstall that,
[09:45] <lotusleaf> demantik: Enemy Territory is the best, IMO :)
[09:45] <dabaSlon> i know root, that is what you are trying to do...
[09:45] <bodaciousb> demantik, did you get the driver running?
[09:45] <lotusleaf> demantik: be sure to grab the upgrade patch that was released this year for it
[09:45] <demantik> yeah i did!
[09:46] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, amd64 support is fixed in mono 1.1.x
[09:46] <demantik> alright lotusleaf
[09:46] <root1_> dabaSlon, its on other hd no that one i used to install ubntu
[09:46] <lotusleaf> demantik: there's also America's Army
[09:46] <bodaciousb> demantik, nice, if you ever feel you want to loose some hair, try installing that ins suse =)
[09:46] <sylvan> anyone know something about getting sound working?
[09:46] <queuetue> Does anyone have a favorite strategy game on linux?  I'm looking something to really sink my teeth into...
[09:46] <transgress> demantik: don't forget ut2k4
[09:46] <demantik> bodacious...i DID INSTALL in Suse ;)
[09:46] <dabaSlon> right, the first hard drive(master) will be hda, then the second one will be hdb...
[09:46] <cmg_> tritium, i see one warning (Open APM Failed).. and then the last line says "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed"
[09:46] <macarthy> zerokarmaleft, is that in a sources rep somewhere?
[09:46] <dabaSlon> hdb0, hdb1, and so on for the partitions...
[09:46] <transgress> i hate america's army... and any game that requires you do the walkthrough before playing
[09:46] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, you are THE man!
[09:46] <bodaciousb> demantik, i did once, and i tried 3 times, i couldnt figure it out last time
[09:46] <lotusleaf> queuetue: nethack ;P
[09:47] <dabaSlon> you have no partitions, and such, you just need a good mount command, unless it is already mounted, which would be strange.
[09:47] <queuetue> lotusleaf, Good idea.
[09:47] <lotusleaf> Nalioth: why, what did I do? :P
[09:47] <demantik> LOL...u want a page with instructiosn bodaciousb?
[09:47] <demantik> ill see if i can find it if u want
[09:47] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, jdong is working on backporting it
[09:47] <bodaciousb> demantik, im sure ive been there....
[09:47] <tony> tx java is working
[09:47] <demantik> hmm alright
[09:47] <macarthy> zerokarmaleft, by backporting you mean ?
[09:47] <tritium> tony, which method did you use?
[09:47] <bodaciousb> demantik, but it doesnt matter now, im on ubuntu =P
[09:48] <demantik> good point ;)
[09:48] <tony> the one you gave me
[09:48] <demantik> say...are there any special things to turn on/off in the ati config file?
[09:48] <demantik> any tweaking to be done
[09:48] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[09:48] <root1_> brb
[09:48] <demantik> ive never really played around with it...
[09:48] <dabaSlon> root1_: when you  "mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=000" exactly as shown here, you gget a mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/mp3 busy
[09:48] <tritium> tony, Method 3 with java-package?  nice ;)
[09:48] <dabaSlon>  error?
[09:48] <bodaciousb> demantik, i use it as is... works great for me
[09:48] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, mono packaging issues will be fixed for hoary+1
[09:48] <demantik> the FSAA doesnt work though, does it....?
[09:48] <tony> yes thank you
[09:49] <demantik> yeah i never had problems, was just wondering
[09:49] <bodaciousb> demantik, let me know if you find something good though =)
[09:49] <demantik> alright then
[09:49] <tony> i spend the whole afternoon on it :(
[09:49] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, other option is to build mono/beagle dependencies/beagle from source yourself
[09:49] <cmg_> tritium, I'm just gonna reinstall Warty.. at least I know that works.  what a dissapointment
[09:49] <dabaSlon> yeah, that may be the best way, so what get a bin, and what then, tritium?
[09:50] <tony> no trying to get azareus working
[09:50] <IcemanV9> cmg_: if u do reinstall Warty, then try to save xorg.conf and try it on Hoary
[09:50] <lotusleaf> just the sound of it: "mandriva" is enough to provoke anal puckering
[09:50] <zerokarmaleft> lotusleaf, lol
[09:50] <dabaSlon> cmg_: did you add repositories to your sources list before upgradeing?
[09:50] <dabaSlon> no e
[09:50] <IcemanV9> cmg_: i mean, come on. it should work in Hoary with xorg.conf (from Warty), u know?
[09:51] <cmg_> dabaSlon, I didnt upgrade.. it was a fresh install
[09:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> Anyone know of a program that will record a message from a phone line like an answering machine?
[09:51] <dabaSlon> a fresh install of Hoary?
[09:51] <dabaSlon> ok.
[09:51] <cmg_> dabaSlon, yes
[09:51] <dabaSlon> jeust cehcking, mine had that issue hen upgrading,
[09:51] <macarthy> zerokarmaleft, when is hoary+1 due, new to ubuntu
[09:52] <dabaSlon> typos typos...
[09:52] <zerokarmaleft> macarthy, hoary was just released...breezy will be out in october
[09:52] <cmg_> IcemanV9, I have a warty box here.. it doesnt have an /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[09:52] <macarthy> october, ok
[09:52] <anto9us> FlyingSquirrel32: via modem?
[09:52] <FlyingSquirrel32> macarthy: the ubuntu releases come out every 6 months
[09:53] <dabaSlon> cmg_: you can also give it some time, guys like crimsun, bob2, and some others may know how to fix it..
[09:53] <orhs> hey all
[09:53] <IcemanV9> cmg_: that's right. it doesn't use Xorg
[09:53] <dabaSlon> hey orhs
[09:54] <cmg_> I'm gonna install Warty again.. I guess I'll try again in October :(
[09:54] <FlyingSquirrel32> anto9us: sorry for the delay, yes.
[09:54] <Brunellus> Problem:  ndiswrapper works when I boot in the 2.6.8 kernel, but not in the 2.6.10 kernel
[09:54] <IcemanV9> cmg_: dang. sorry.
[09:54] <dabaSlon> soultion: boot the 2.6.8 kernel....
[09:54] <dabaSlon> :-P
[09:54] <BogoMIPS> Hey - I've just used ndiswrapper to install some drivers...
[09:54] <Brunellus> ahahahahaah.  correct, dabaSlon
[09:55] <tritium> dabaSlon, I'm sorry, someone came in my office.  What was your question about?
[09:55] <wnight> LSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.
[09:55] <Brunellus> but I was wondering why this might be so
[09:55] <wnight> LSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.
[09:55] <dabaSlon> dont remember
[09:55] <tritium> cmg_, we should be able to resolve this...
[09:55] <wnight> LSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.
[09:55] <dabaSlon> scroll up
[09:55] <anto9us> FlyingSquirrel32: vgetty is ubiquitous tool for that I think
[09:55] <kjuu> Is it possible that Ubuntu doesn't support my SATA-hard drive?
[09:55] <cmg_> tritium, ive been doing this install for 7 hours now :)
[09:55] <anto9us> FlyingSquirrel32: package is mgetty-voice
[09:55] <tritium> cmg_, I'm sorry, buddy
[09:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> anto9us: What we really want is a server so the attornys in my firm can dictate over the phone, and the file can be sent be e-mail.
[09:56] <dabaSlon> orhs, are you in norway?
[09:56] <demantik> WMV + Totem = How? where do i get the wmv lib, or what is the name of it
[09:56] <Brunellus> are there any known issues with ndiswrapper-1.0 and the 2.6.10 kernel?
[09:56] <dabaSlon> kjuu: are you in finalnd?
[09:56] <cmg_> tritium, i have to go but will be back in a while.. if you think of anything, let me know
[09:56] <kjuu> dabaSlon: yes
[09:56] <dabaSlon> sweet
[09:56] <Fator_Dee> demantik: fron marillat, w32codecs
[09:56] <dabaSlon> just checking...
[09:56] <anto9us> FlyingSquirrel32: vgetty will do that, you can have multiple mail boxes and menu system, very clever setup
[09:56] <Fator_Dee> *fron = from
[09:56] <demantik> thanks
[09:57] <tritium> cmg_, okay, take care
[09:57] <thenuke> demantik: http://ubuntuguide.org/ keep that site in mind
[09:58] <demantik> alright cool..
[09:58] <zoddan> i love ubuntu it have full support for my WLAN :)
[09:58] <wnight> LSOF is freezing on me, I need LSOF to find what's using a SMB share so I can stop it, so that I can unmount the share and stop samba, which isn't working.  Lol
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> fast one
[09:59] <demantik> SMART ;)
[09:59] <dabaSlon> kjuu: where have you looked so far?
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> hey, I answered you question ;-)
[09:59] <IcemanV9> debiannoob: enjoying the new screen resolution?
[10:00] <Scorpion> im trying to install glib, but it doesn't seem to work, get alot of warnings after typing make
[10:00] <kjuu> dabaSlon: I've tried installing Ubuntu but it fails when it gets to the part about partitions
[10:00] <Scorpion> i need glib to install anoter software
[10:01] <demantik> Scorpion...is it not there in Synaptic?
[10:01] <occy> tritium: Is there a new or updated howto on Hoary with nvidia?  With the default Hoary nvidia drivers and kernel, my system keeps locking up.
[10:01] <robertj> heya all, anyone know of an 8-port SATA RAID controller that plays nice wth linux?
[10:01] <kjuu> and I can't see my excisting partitions using ubuntu live
[10:01] <Zorix> ubuntu 5.04 amd64 and wine.. how can this be don effectively
[10:01] <dabaSlon> so, has the same hard drive worked in another distro?
[10:01] <sbcl3> i need an apache web server with php, mysql, and phpmyadmin
[10:01] <tritium> Scorpion, you need libglib2.0-dev
[10:01] <Scorpion> sorry new to linux, whats Synaptic
[10:01] <sbcl3> what is the easiest way to do this?
[10:02] <sbcl3> is it synaptic?
[10:02] <kjuu> dabaSlon: at least in fedora core 4 and knoppix
[10:02] <tritium> Zorix, not on amd64
[10:02] <sbcl3> scorpion: its a package manager
[10:02] <Scorpion> oki, where do i get libglib2.0-dev
[10:02] <demantik> yup
[10:02] <Zorix> tritium what about chroot
[10:02] <dabaSlon> kjuu: it should work then, I guess...
[10:02] <tritium> Zorix, possibly, though I can't confirm
[10:02] <kjuu> dabaSlon: it should but it won't :(
[10:02] <dabaSlon> not really possible that it does not support your hard drive...
[10:02] <Zorix> tritium, will this be supported in the future?
[10:02] <kjuu> dabaSlon: neither does Mandrake, btw
[10:02] <demantik> open Synaptic Packet Manager in Ubuntu... do a search...fairly easy to use program...might be tehre.
[10:02] <dabaSlon> that is what I mean.
[10:03] <weazle> -
[10:03] <dabaSlon> oh, ic..
[10:03] <tony> is there a program like mirc to download files ?
[10:03] <tritium> Zorix, I don't think so -- that's a wine issue, not an ubuntu issue, though
[10:03] <dabaSlon> ??
[10:03] <BogoMIPS> Fator_Dee, marillat: Hi, I'm also trying to install codecs, for xine/totem/xmms. I went to the freshly built rpms site linked to by xine, and converted the rpms to debs with alien. Installed them, but still can't get sound in some .avi files. Is there a place I can get a working w32codecs dbm?
[10:03] <Zorix> tritium, thanks for your help
[10:03] <demantik> tony = u can download with X-Chat...
[10:03] <sbcl3> oh, i guess i'll just try the package manager
[10:03] <tritium> Zorix, sure
[10:03] <tony> cool
[10:03] <Fator_Dee> BogoMIPS: I think it's not because of the codecs
[10:04] <lotusleaf> IMO mandriva sounds like a new public lice organism originating on the planet mars
[10:04] <lotusleaf> pubic*
[10:04] <Fator_Dee> BogoMIPS: it's a sound config problem, but I don't know what you should do, sorry :-(
[10:04] <tony> i use the site www.ircspy.com
[10:04] <demantik> tony - yes...but xchat to my knowledge, doesnt pick up irc links
[10:04] <demantik> so u have to type it in manually :(
[10:04] <BogoMIPS> Fator_Dee: Ah, thanks for that.
[10:05] <tony> yes and that is what i need
[10:05] <Fator_Dee> BogoMIPS: but why didn't you install the w32codecs from marillats repository?
[10:05] <demantik> anybody know how to get xchat to take irc links? or another program?
[10:05] <Fator_Dee> BogoMIPS: I'm not sure if it's a codec or config problem
[10:05] <darkaudit> Fator_Dee: the backports repo has them as well
[10:05] <Fator_Dee> darkaudit: oh, didn't know that
[10:05] <BogoMIPS> Fator_Dee: I've joined this conversation late and didn't know about this repository. What is it's URL, please?
[10:06] <dabaSlon> lotusleaf: why are you dissing, do you even know where the name comes from?
[10:06] <Scorpion> how do i install   libglib2.0-dev
[10:06] <darkaudit> np :)
[10:06] <Fator_Dee> might as well install them now :-)
[10:06] <Hannes_>   irssi roxors
[10:06] <tritium> BogoMIPS, have you read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ?
[10:06] <Fator_Dee> BogoMIPS: I think you can find it from the ubuntuguide.org
[10:06] <demantik> scorpion - run "synaptic" any way....in a terminal, or through a menu
[10:07] <demantik> once its open
[10:07] <dabaSlon> wow, no more arrogance
[10:07] <demantik> search for libglib2.0-dev
[10:07] <sbcl3> once the apache server is installed via synaptic, where do i put its files?
[10:07] <demantik> it will come up..tick the box and press apply
[10:07] <dabaSlon>  /var/www?
[10:07] <Nalioth> demantik, irc links?
[10:07] <tritium> Scorpion, "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev"
[10:07] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: I hates it
[10:07] <Liverman> hi, anybody here know what to add to the source.list in order to get kde 3.4 ??
[10:07] <dabaSlon> you can specify another folder in the conf file, though
[10:07] <dabaSlon> lotusleaf: do you know where the name comes from>?
[10:08] <tritium> Liverman, all you need is universe added
[10:08] <dabaSlon> I mean, I dont like the sound either...
[10:08] <demantik> Nalioth - yes...mirc in windows, when u click an irc link it opens up the server and room
[10:08] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: yes, a result from their merger
[10:08] <Liverman> hmmm
[10:08] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: or acquisition, whatever
[10:08] <shido6>  if I have 200 files names foo.2 foo.3 , etc. I want to add a suffix to the end like .dat or .mp3 how do i do that?
[10:08] <Liverman> ...meaning :)
[10:08] <dabaSlon> yeah, so, it kinda fits in...
[10:08] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: yeah, like a turnip in a rectum undigested IMO
[10:09] <BogoMIPS> tritium, Fator_Dee: Ooops - time to RTFM. Sorry, guys, but I'm new to Ubuntu (more used to RH) and have been having trouble even finding all the docs and readmes. Thanks for your time, and I'll go and look up the reference now.
[10:09] <dabaSlon> lotusleaf: haha
[10:09] <dabaSlon> youre awful
[10:09] <Liverman> ooh, i see
[10:09] <Liverman> thanx tritium
[10:09] <tritium> Liverman, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:09] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: thx
[10:09] <lotusleaf> ;)
[10:09] <dabaSlon> bah
[10:09] <lotusleaf> growl
[10:10] <tritium> Liverman, if you add the Marillat repos, use "testing" with hoary
[10:11] <orhs> i know that linux is not specified for games but i just wonder if there is a game that is special for linux
[10:11] <dabaSlon> yup, gnometris
[10:11] <orhs> lol
[10:11] <Liverman> ok, thanx again
[10:11] <sbcl3> gnometris is awesome ^_^
[10:12] <dabaSlon> look in your synaptic, there are a lot of games
[10:12] <Liverman> but i could just go with universe right ?
[10:12] <lotusleaf> orhs: every game is unique and special, just like every other one.
[10:12] <dabaSlon> lotusleaf: it is about that time to get off dope....
[10:13] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: dope free my friend, but schizophrenia is a bitch
[10:13] <dabaSlon> then it is about that time to get on medication
[10:13] <dabaSlon> jj btw
[10:14] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: nah, I rather enjoy riding the waves of lunacy on a surfboard of ascii
[10:14] <sbcl3> guys: does ubuntu's mysql package come with phpmyadmin?
[10:14] <jordanau> orhs, are you looking for linux games?
[10:14] <sbcl3> and where is the mysql server located?
[10:14] <jordanau> sbcl3, did you ever get that permission stuff working?
[10:14] <sbcl3> no, but i can say i figured out why
[10:14] <sbcl3> jordanau: your method works for anythign that's not being mouted
[10:14] <sbcl3> *mounted
[10:15] <krat3r> in ubuntu how can connect to a ftp host
[10:15] <jordanau> sbcl3, well that works too, and you got to learn how to use chmod which is good
[10:15] <dabaSlon> ftp hostname
[10:15] <dabaSlon> in a terminal
[10:15] <sbcl3> i was able to copy the files from that partition to this one, so no real harm done
[10:15] <sbcl3> so does anyone know where the mysql server is?
[10:16] <krat3r> dabaSlon, tnx, i made ftp, and then it appeared "ftp>" in the command line
[10:16] <krat3r> tnx
[10:16] <bodaciousb> how do i delete a non empty directry?
[10:16] <dabaSlon> yup that is that...
[10:16] <[koji] > bodaciousb use -r
[10:16] <dabaSlon> rm -r directory
[10:16] <bodaciousb> [koji] , thanks =)
[10:16] <krat3r> dabaSlon, the rest i know
[10:16] <krat3r> just doing ?
[10:17] <krat3r> :-)
[10:17] <dabaSlon> rephrase that, krat3r
[10:17] <sbcl3> err...no one here works with MySQL?
[10:17] <adrk> how do I install wxPython?
[10:17] <adrk> I don't see it in synaptic.
[10:17] <dabaSlon> what exactly is your queston, sbcl3?
[10:17] <sbcl3> how can i set up a mysql database?
[10:17] <Zorix> tritium, do you happen to know anything about nvidia's geforce fx series capture device.. i dont think its setup right and i dont see linux drivers for it
[10:18] <sbcl3> where is the tool?
[10:18] <dabaSlon> what?
[10:18] <dabaSlon> do you know anything about it?
[10:18] <bodaciousb> how do i look for hidden files? i need to find everything .cvscedega
[10:18] <dabaSlon> ls -l
[10:18] <tritium> Zorix, no, sorry...
[10:18] <dabaSlon> ls -a
[10:18] <dabaSlon> sorry
[10:18] <dabaSlon> ls -alt is good
[10:18] <Zorix> hmm
[10:18] <dabaSlon> or ls -al
[10:19] <krat3r> dabaSlon, the commands i knew, because before asking how to connect i've made just "ftp" and then it appeared in the cmd line "ftp>" and when execute any cmd it says that that cmd is not valid and it also says to press "?" for more informations
[10:19] <sbcl3> i need to get phpmyadmin installed
[10:19] <bodaciousb> dabaSlon, yes that will list, but how do i look in everything?
[10:19] <krat3r> so after asking you... and doing ftp host
[10:19] <sbcl3> but to do that i need to know where mysql is kept i think
[10:19] <toresbe> what's the package name for the Linux kernel?
[10:19] <krat3r> i knew the rest
[10:19] <dabaSlon> krat3r: so now it works with the hostname,. right
[10:19] <dabaSlon> right
[10:19] <krat3r> yep
[10:19] <krat3r> tnx
[10:19] <dabaSlon> cocol
[10:19] <bodaciousb> dabaSlon, i mean... seek the files out, not go to ever dir on my system and ls -a
[10:19] <dabaSlon> i got that part, the ? confused nme
[10:19] <tritium> toresbe, they begin with linux-image-
[10:19] <toresbe> tritium: ah, thank
[10:19] <klaym> what is the drive symbol of a flash memory? (the command I write on nautilus to open it up)?
[10:19] <krat3r> k
[10:19] <toresbe> tritium: ...s!
[10:19] <dabaSlon> so see them in your folder viewer(nautilus?
[10:19] <Zorix> dont update the kernel
[10:20] <Nalioth> demantik, sorry it's been a long long time since i've seen mirc
[10:20] <Zorix> its buggy
[10:20] <phxguy> anyone care to help me out with Superkaramba
[10:20] <toresbe> tritium: got an URL for a .deb for me?
[10:20] <dabaSlon> bodaciousb: ^
[10:20] <tritium> Zorix, which one?
[10:20] <Zorix> 2.6.11
[10:20] <bodaciousb> daba.. im in a console
[10:20] <Nalioth> demantik, i'm happy xchat allows external URL handling
[10:20] <tritium> Zorix, it's not supported
[10:20] <toresbe> tritium: I'm doing this in a chroot, fixing a slightly borken harddrive
[10:20] <Zorix> for a good reason
[10:20] <Zorix> it locks up gnome
[10:20] <dabaSlon> so what do yuo want to do again?
[10:20] <Nalioth> phxguy what is the nature of your medical emergency?
[10:20] <toresbe> Nalioth: heh
[10:20] <tritium> toresbe, wouldn't you rather use apt-get to install it?
[10:20] <demantik> nalioth...it does? lol
[10:20] <dabaSlon> show hidden files?
[10:20] <dabaSlon> all of them on a system?
[10:20] <bodaciousb> dabaSlon, no search for files
[10:21] <k-dog2> Brand new warty install.  What's the X display manager, what package does it run from, and what's the sysvinit file?
[10:21] <klaym> what is the drive symbol of a flash memory? (the command I write on nautilus to open it up)?
[10:21] <dabaSlon> locate .cedega
[10:21] <phxguy> Nalioth: for some reason when I have the LWP Theme running my console opens to the lwp directory instead of the normal $home directory
[10:21] <anto9us> bodaciousb: type locate <foo>
[10:21] <bodaciousb> dabaSlon, ahh ok
[10:21] <dabaSlon> or wahtever, may no work though, not ure
[10:21] <klaym> I mean USB memory
[10:21] <toresbe> tritium: nope, it's not running Ubuntu right now - and I can't chroot because Ubuntu is for amd64 and Debian, which I'm currently in, is for i386
[10:21] <tritium> k-dog2, gdm, /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:21] <klaym> not flash
[10:21] <orhs> anyone here interested in the occult?
[10:21] <dabaSlon> orhs: why?
[10:21] <tritium> orhs, please, not here
[10:21] <orhs> just want to know
[10:21] <k-dog2> tritium: Thanks, didn't get installed, odd.
[10:21] <orhs> ok tritinum
[10:22] <tritium> thanks
[10:22] <dabaSlon> check out my poll, orhs
[10:22] <orhs> dabaSlon, what and were can i find your poll?
[10:22] <tritium> toresbe, check out packages.ubuntu.com, then
[10:22] <toresbe> tritium: thanks
[10:22] <Nalioth> phxguy, check your LWP rc file (or whatever file controls how it works)
[10:23] <tritium> toresbe, you usually want linux-<architecture>, so that it pulls in linux-restricted-modules as well
[10:23] <k-dog2> Any Ubuntu devs here?
[10:23] <Nalioth> phxguy, sounds like a malformed line
[10:23] <tritium> k-dog2, are you using gnome?
[10:23] <k-dog2> Note that I got to "You should never see this question" asking for release version.  warty, hoary, grumpy, perky...
[10:23] <k-dog2> tritium: Not if I can help it ;-)
[10:23] <toresbe> tritium: Just need to reinstall
[10:23] <demantik> NALIOTH: what i want, is to be able to click an irc link... irc://server.com:port/channel and have xchat load taht for me.
[10:24] <cmg_> tritium, back.. any advice for my xorg hell?
[10:24] <k-dog2> tritium: ...but for the other users on this box, yes, I'd like default Ubuntu install
[10:24] <phxguy> Nalioth: what am i looking for?
[10:24] <Zorix> when is the next version of ubuntu due out approximately
[10:24] <jbmigel> hey all, howto defrag ext3 partitions?
[10:24] <tritium> Zorix, Octover
[10:24] <tritium> cmg_, no, not at the moment, sorry.
[10:24] <k-dog2> tritium: OK, that's now running....
[10:24] <tritium> k-dog2, that should run at startup
[10:25] <anto9us> jbmigel: as I understand it, it shouldnt' be necessary
[10:25] <k-dog2> tritium: it didn't get loaded.
[10:25] <robertj> if your reading from 8 striped 7200 rpm drives, what kind of throughput can you expect barring any bottlenecks other than disk speed?
[10:25] <Zorix> long time.. will a kernel update be available before that? like 2.6.12.. i was told that my via ide controller dma bug will be fixed in 2.6.12
[10:25] <cmg_> tritium, would it be worth entering a bug somewhere?  I am hoping the next release will fix it
[10:25] <k-dog2> tritium: Very experienced Debian user here.
[10:25] <toresbe> tritium: beh, I'll have to reinstall--- the filesystem is screwed up
[10:25] <k-dog2> tritium: What's Ubuntu's package bundle concept called, and how would I re-fetch the stock bundle to reload?
[10:25] <tritium> k-dog2, is it not symlinked to in /etc/rc*.d ?
[10:25] <Nalioth> demantik, yes i understand. should be no problem, as xchat handles external URLs (i'm not the coder for it, tho)
[10:26] <tritium> toresbe, ouch
[10:26] <k-dog2> tritium: gdm was not installed.  I just installed and started it.
[10:26] <rainer> Hi erverybody - solved my problem
[10:26] <Nalioth> phxguy, of that i'm not sure
[10:26] <tritium> k-dog2, package bundle concept?
[10:26] <k-dog2> tritium: ...looks like I missed some packages on installation.
[10:26] <tritium> odd
[10:26] <Nalioth> phxguy, perhaps you should hit the forums
[10:26] <k-dog2> tritium: Are you an Ubuntu dev / Canonical staffer?
[10:26] <phxguy> Nalioth: well it doesn't matter because its empty
[10:26] <tritium> k-dog2, might want to make sure you have all the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <k-dog2> tritium: bundle == set of debs.
[10:27] <muk_amd64> what do I need to do for working dvd playback?
[10:27] <tritium> k-dog2, no, not a dev.  I just work on packages in universe.  No, different employer.
[10:27] <k-dog2> tritium: OK.
[10:27] <Zorix> muk_amd64.. the css libraries
[10:27] <k-dog2> tritium: That's now d/l'ing 121 MB of packages.
[10:27] <phxguy> muk_amd64: ubuntuguide.org
[10:27] <tritium> k-dog2, something went wrong during your install, sounds like
[10:27] <k-dog2> tritium: ...so something borked in install.  We did partial custom/expert mode, had to try a few things, CDROM detection failed stock.
[10:27] <k-dog2> tritium: Yeah.
[10:28] <k-dog2> tritium: High speed line, we'll see what happens here....
[10:28] <Nalioth> phxguy, somewhere there is a text file that controls how it works, hit the forums/faq for it and see
[10:28] <cmg_> tritium, think this will be fixed in the next Ubuntu release? or is my X screwed for life
[10:28] <tritium> k-dog2, sorry you had problems
[10:28] <rainer> Nalioth: Be carefull with timesettings in ubuntu. The problem seems to be that I used Network time synchronisation (which I activated yesterday) - repaired everything by just setting the date it was on 1.1.1904
[10:28] <k-dog2> tritium: NP.  I can work through it.
[10:28] <tritium> cmg_, it must be specific to your set of hardware.  Most people have no trouble with x.org and intel i810
[10:28] <tritium> k-dog2, cool
[10:28] <k-dog2> tritium: Did an in-class demo yesterday, bare-metal to mixing beats (audacity) in ~1 hr, with explanations.  And a CDROM drive swapout.
[10:29] <k-dog2> tritium: As I said:  very experience Debian hand/admin.  Know bob2 well.
[10:29] <tritium> k-dog2, oh, cool
[10:29] <k-dog2> tritium: ...and jdub, though on different terms.
[10:29] <k-dog2> tritium: Google "an agony in seven fits"
[10:29] <tritium> k-dog2, heh, ok
[10:30] <k-dog2> tritium: ...setting this puppy up for remote access....
[10:31] <rainer> can anyone help me in configuring wpa_supplicant?
[10:31] <hyso_> I am using ubuntu warty, is there a way so I can have the latest packages available for hoary?
[10:32] <muk_amd64> phxguy, thx
[10:32] <hyso_> I mean, I only have firefox 0.9 and things like that, but I thing that other versions of ubuntu have more actualized packages...
[10:32] <k-dog2> tritium: ...ok, on from other box....
[10:32] <hyso_> thing=think
[10:33] <fr500> hello
[10:33] <dabaSlon> yo!
[10:33] <demantik> woohoo! found my answer
[10:33] <demantik> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25372.html
[10:33] <bodaciousb> anyone fimiliar with cvscedega?
[10:34] <Kisain> my kubuntu crashed 0_o
[10:34] <fr500> i have a config file with a lot of routes, how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in the file
[10:34] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: since you're still asking this, you might try linuxquestions.org
[10:34] <tritium> k-dog2, okay.  I'll see you around.  I've got research to do.
[10:34] <fr500> like a loop that takes as input the file lines
[10:34] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, beent here =(
[10:34] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: frank's wine corner forums?
[10:34] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, sounds fimiliar, whats the url?
[10:35] <demantik> people, im gonna go....6:35am ..Australia. Bye
[10:35] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: dunno I have it linked on my site though: lotusleaf.nermal.net/linux.html <- click on gaming/emulation
[10:35] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: or discussion fourms
[10:35] <k-dog2> tritium: NP, thanks.
[10:35] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, ok
[10:35] <dabaSlon> later, demantik
[10:37] <AndyR> quiet here tonight
[10:37] <lotusleaf> AndyR: better? :)
[10:37] <Nalioth> rainer thx
[10:38] <AndyR> lotusleaf, yes
[10:38] <cmg_> tritium, holy crap i fixed my X prob somehow
[10:38] <shido6> anyone use xdcc assist
[10:38] <Zorix> what is a cheap s-video capture card supported by linux
[10:38] <shido6> or know of anything similar I can use with x-chat
[10:38] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, err franks has nothing eaither, that site seems way outdated
[10:38] <shido6> or get it working?
[10:38] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: did you check thier forums?
[10:38] <cmg_> tritium, after my Xorg -configure failed, it removed my xorg.conf and replaced it with a file named x.org
[10:38] <tritium> cmg_, sorry, was away.  What did you do to fix it?
[10:39] <cmg_> and now everything is fine.. i can set my resolution and all works great
[10:39] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: if that fails, you could try googling for a related newsgroup or mailing list and posting at any you find
[10:39] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, yeah..... im jsut gonna keep trying hte linux-gamers.org.org script file thing
[10:39] <tritium> cmg_, glad you fixed it.  :)  Now I better work on my dissertation.
[10:39] <dabaSlon> yeah, told you...
[10:39] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: have you tried the linux forum at arstechnica?
[10:40] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, nope.... i have googled it though...
[10:40] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: it doesn't hurt to post several places and wait for the replies to roll in and compare answers. ;)
[10:40] <cmg_> tritium, thanks for the help!!
[10:40] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: try arstechnica's linux forum section there's some brilliant minds there
[10:40] <tritium> cmg_, you're welcome.  Congrats, and take care!
[10:40] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, i know..... ive seen posts with my problem and the reply is always buy cedega, your screwed
[10:40] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: lol
[10:41] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: well it's a smart marketing technique if that's true, because if cvs worked 100% without problems, would the commercial offering still sell? :P
[10:41] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: good luck, I gave up on WINEX when I tried it.
[10:41] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, =) i have a suspicion that cedega needs wine
[10:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> anyone know of a good instant messaging gateway?
[10:42] <Kisain> i can't beleve my box crashed o_0
[10:42] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, i can make it run but it throws errors left and right, windows API errors, so im thinking somehting isnt installing properly
[10:42] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, ill get it eventually
[10:42] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: you've tried the Freenode channel for it right?
[10:43] <bodaciousb> nope
[10:43] <bodaciousb> im there now, ill ask =)
[10:43] <lotusleaf> bodaciousb: you might try that.. and #winehq too just for shits and giggles
[10:43] <bodaciousb> lotusleaf, hehe ok
[10:44] <reD_Rum> anybody else getting slow download speeds from ubuntu backports?
[10:44] <spades> got my new lcd, thing is nice http://3spades.net/dump/05-06-05_1638.jpg
[10:45] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: define slow
[10:45] <reD_Rum> 10 KB/sec
[10:45] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: slow? My max is 5.xxK/s
[10:45] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: wanna trade?
[10:45] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: lol, nevermind =)
[10:45] <lotusleaf> ;)
[10:46] <reD_Rum> also, is there gonna be a problem since synaptic is trying to upgrade synaptic?
[10:46] <Nalioth> reD_Rum, nope, it'l use the new version next time you run it
[10:47] <reD_Rum> Nalioth: thanks
[10:47] <queuetue> Evolution is using up over a gig of ram, all by itself...  Why is that?
[10:47] <reD_Rum> Nalioth: same thing if in a hypothetical situation gnome is being upgrade? or for that matter, the kernel?
[10:47] <Daehlie> sounds like a memory leak, kill it and try starting it again
[10:47] <Keizer> It's fun to try and keep Xine from crashing LOL
[10:47] <cmg_> tritium, i take it back.. it's still busted :(  it only works until I reboot
[10:48] <lotusleaf> cool! only 27 hours left in my ubuntu download.
[10:48] <queuetue> And GAIM is using 200MB?  WTH?
[10:49] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: 2005, time to get broadband
[10:50] <Triffid-Hunter> queuetue: every time i see things like that, its always mountains of cached files...
[10:50] <orhs> hey all, what should i begin with if i want to learn to hack?? (i want to be an ethical hacker)
[10:50] <Keizer> Damn
[10:50] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: that's an excellent idea, but I eat ramen meals, so.. not feasible. ;(
[10:50] <dabaSlon> lol
[10:50] <Keizer> Totem is bringing my system doooooown
[10:51] <bodaciousb> orhs, start with google, not #ubuntu
[10:51] <Keizer> I should be able to play DVDs with a 1.6Ghz and 256MB of RAM
[10:51] <dabaSlon> orhs: a time machine, to get younger into it...
[10:51] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: how expensive can it be? hehe
[10:51] <Fator_Dee> Keizer: I play dvds with a 800mhz 512mb
[10:51] <atahualpa> where do i get a samba howto?
[10:51] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: are you in USA?
[10:52] <Keizer> Fator_Dee, Twice my RAM
[10:52] <terje> so.. this is a retarted question..
[10:52] <Keizer> Fator_Dee, How long does it take to load a DVD movie?
[10:52] <Keizer> Mine is still spinning
[10:52] <terje> I have  a debian package (I'm a RH guy), how do I install it?
[10:52] <reD_Rum> atahualpa: google would be a good place to look
[10:52] <Fator_Dee> Keizer: haven't measured
[10:52] <Keizer> OMG
[10:52] <Keizer> < 5 minutes?
[10:52] <Fator_Dee> you have dma on?
[10:52] <Keizer> Maybe
[10:52] <Fator_Dee> check
[10:52] <Keizer> I'll check
[10:53] <maximaus_> terje:  man dpkg
[10:53] <goldfish> use vlc
[10:53] <terje> dope.
[10:53] <terje> thanks.
[10:53] <goldfish> terje: dpkg -i moo.deb
[10:53] <bodaciousb> atahualpa, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> and yes, <5min
[10:53] <dabaSlon> atahualpa: http://us3.samba.org/samba/
[10:53] <goldfish> Keizer: turn on dma and use vlc.
[10:53] <dabaSlon> i mean, there is an official howto...I dont know if you googled for it...
[10:53] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: I could be
[10:54] <atahualpa> thx bodaciousb dabaSlon
[10:54] <bodaciousb> atahualpa, np, that website answerd all of my ?'s
[10:54] <wnight> How do I turn off gam_server? I can't find a startup script.
[10:54] <Fator_Dee> Keizer: and you have installed the library to decode dvds?
[10:55] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: so could i...?
[10:55] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: how expensive? it's simple: can you afford to buy a 2 liter of soda right now?
[10:55] <Keizer> Fator_Dee, I have all that
[10:55] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: yeah, well i have a job. do you?
[10:55] <reD_Rum> =p
[10:55] <dabaSlon> hah
[10:55] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: I can't afford that, so naturally I can't afford broadband ;)
[10:56] <Keizer> Fator_Dee, Get this, everything in my hdparm.conf is commented out....
[10:56] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: actually i take that back, soda doesn't come in 2 liter bottles in this country
[10:56] <reD_Rum> loutleaf: so it would be impossible
[10:56] <Fator_Dee> Keizer: what does "hdparm /dev/hdX" say
[10:56] <Fator_Dee> where hdX is your dvd-player
[10:56] <Nalioth> reD_Rum, lotusleaf this is getting surreal
[10:57] <Keizer> sudo /sbin/hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom
[10:57] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: not impossible if it was imported ;)
[10:57] <Keizer> That enables DMA
[10:58] <Fator_Dee> it's -d1
[10:58] <reD_Rum> i dont think they import that, lol
[10:59] <carambol> hi how i remove the debian item in gnome menu
[10:59] <Keizer> Fator_Dee, I'll have to try Totem because MPlayer just shit itself when I tried to get it to play the DVD
[10:59] <orhs> hey is there some other programs like evolution???
[10:59] <goldfish> Keizer: Get Vlc.
[10:59] <Fator_Dee> or xine or ogle or :-p
[10:59] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: but it's not impossible :)
[10:59] <FunnyLookinHat> VLC for GTK+ works good for me.
[10:59] <reD_Rum> totem-xine is good
[11:00] <Keizer> I hate the way Ubuntu has sound setup
[11:00] <Keizer> Programs crash while trying to use the sound because you have to kill esd or force eSound
[11:00] <Keizer> DMA support didn't help
[11:00] <orhs> has someone answerd my question??   Try Thunderbird
[11:01] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: i suppose maybe i can order it from overseas.. i think this conversation lost its point a long time ago though
[11:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> Whenever I change my /etc/exports and run exportfs -ra, the changes don't show up when I type exportfs
[11:01] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: agreed. I win. ;)
[11:01] <reD_Rum> lol
[11:01] <Nalioth> orhs, sylpheed?
[11:01] <Keizer> lotusleaf, I like eating Animals
[11:01] <lotusleaf> :P
[11:02] <fr500> i have a config file with a lot of routes, how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in the file
[11:02] <Keizer> A computer isn't God's creation
[11:02] <fr500> like a loop that takes as input the file lines
[11:02] <lotusleaf> Keizer: even warthogs?
[11:02] <reD_Rum> Keizer: are animals?
[11:02] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, warthogs are the tastiest of varmints
[11:02] <lotusleaf> Keizer: sure it is, because humans created god
[11:02] <lotusleaf> Nalioth: i've often wondered what penguin burgers would taste like
[11:03] <something_else> this is bloody pissing me off
[11:03] <something_else> ok ... can someone let me know if this is the case
[11:03] <something_else> hostname can be whatever not localhost
[11:03] <something_else> domain something inside resolv.conf
[11:03] <Keizer> Wow
[11:03] <Keizer> Xine played it
[11:04] <orhs> hmm apt-get is not finding thunderbird...
[11:04] <Keizer> But I can't hear Jack because eSound on Ubuntu is a freaking middle man
[11:04] <something_else> /etc/hosts contains <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost hostname
[11:04] <something_else> what else is necessary for this to work?
[11:04] <lotusleaf> orhs: so download it from mozilla's site ;)
[11:04] <jason> can anyone help me with an alsa recording problem?
[11:04] <bodaciousb> how to i unzip a tar.gz file
[11:04] <Nalioth> lotusleaf, very nasty, as they are chock full of penguin oil
[11:05] <terje> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:05] <bodaciousb> thank you
[11:05] <Nalioth> orhs, look for mozilla-thunderbird
[11:05] <terje> or just gunzip file.tar.gz
[11:05] <orhs> lotusleaf, dont remember how i installed tar.gz files..
[11:05] <FlyingSquirrel32> something_else: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:05] <something_else> flying squirrel im trying to fix this dodgey problem
[11:05] <something_else> where gnome complains about being unable to find my hostname
[11:06] <lotusleaf> orhs: the linux documentation project.. or whatever it's called.. is a great resource
[11:06] <reD_Rum> tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[11:06] <something_else> which is causing extreme slowness
[11:06] <Keizer> Do you guys have to kill eSound for Xine to work?
[11:06] <something_else> and the regular crashing of gnome
[11:06] <reD_Rum> Keizer: yes, i just disabled it
[11:06] <reD_Rum> Keizer: a common problem
[11:06] <Keizer> I've been fighting it for months
[11:06] <reD_Rum> Keizer: why dont you disable it?
[11:06] <something_else> im pretty sure its to do with a mixture of /etc/hosts
[11:06] <something_else> /etc/resolv.conf
[11:06] <something_else> and /etc/hostname
[11:07] <InitMass> damn fuckin' firefox. it crashes very often when trying to save something
[11:07] <something_else> when i do host localhost
[11:07] <something_else> all is fine if internet is up
[11:07] <reD_Rum> Keizer: in gnome: System > Preferences > Sound > Uncheck "Enable sound server startup"
[11:07] <Keizer> reD_Rum, I love and hate it
[11:07] <something_else> firstly, im failing to understand why internet is being checked for localhost
[11:07] <reD_Rum> Keizer: it sucks, there's no point to having system sounds anyway
[11:07] <something_else> when i have host,bind as the order in host.cof
[11:07] <something_else> host.conf
[11:08] <lotusleaf> agreed, I disabled my system sounds, they're useless. Well, except for the pc speaker beep ;)
[11:09] <Fish-Face> Hmmm... Totem complains about missing plugins for _wavs_
[11:09] <reD_Rum> fish-face: did you install totem through apt-get / synaptic ?
[11:09] <Fish-Face> totem was already installed... It plays MP3s fine
[11:10] <Fish-Face> I guess it was installed through apt/dpkg, though
[11:10] <reD_Rum> fish-face: maybe you can find the plug-ins in synaptic? search for totem
[11:10] <Copite> ciao
[11:10] <Copite> :)
[11:11] <Fish-Face> reD_Rum, well, sure, but a codec for .wavs? I don't see anything with gstreamer-wav or whatever
[11:11] <reD_Rum> i uninstalled the default totem and installed totem-xine in its place, that should support .wavs i believe
[11:11] <reD_Rum> i dunno, the default totem sucks
[11:11] <Fish-Face> Hmm... xine instead of gstreamer perhaps
[11:11] <Copite> posso farvi una domanda?
[11:11] <Fish-Face> reD_Rum, I had all sorts of problems on FC3... Whatever file, it would say "unspecified error"
[11:11] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:12] <Copite> volevo sapere se magari sapete xche i video in formato 3gp si vede il video ma non si sente l'audio
[11:12] <holycow> when using the setup printer dialog menu, what is the syntax to connect to a shared printer over a windows domain (printer connected to windows box)?
[11:12] <reD_Rum> fish-face: i think you'll find less crap like that in ubuntu =)
[11:12] <holycow>   /workgroup/machine/printershare <-- like that?
[11:12] <Nalioth> copilot, is tht italian?
[11:12] <Fish-Face> reD_Rum, yeah... Well, it works with totem-xine
[11:13] <BiSON> guys i'm trying to mount my primary hd but i got superblock error ,, how to fix that ?
[11:13] <reD_Rum> fish-face: thought so, gstreamer sucks
[11:13] <ShadowRage> totem-xine won't play dvd's
[11:13] <ShadowRage> I have all the dvd libs installed
[11:13] <ShadowRage> says it needs a plugin
[11:13] <Fish-Face> One of the reasons for Ubuntu was actual decent synaptic support :)
[11:13] <Fish-Face> Gotta love synaptic
[11:13] <ShadowRage> I have the w32 plugins installed
[11:13] <reD_Rum> oh, i don't have a DVD player, so i don't know =p
[11:13] <ShadowRage> then dont say anything :P
[11:13] <holycow> synaptic always worked great, what are you talking about Fish-Face ?
[11:14] <reD_Rum> fish-face: synaptic support is everything =)
[11:14] <Fish-Face> holycow, not on FC3, funnily enough!
[11:14] <holycow> synaptic is meant for debian
[11:14] <reD_Rum> i didn't know it was supposed to work on fc3
[11:14] <holycow> apt doesnt even work well on fc
[11:14] <reD_Rum> FC3 uses rpm
[11:15] <holycow> apt has been somewhat ported to fc too
[11:15] <reD_Rum> holycow: does it install everything on apt from source?
[11:15] <bodaciousb> i tired to install apt on suse 9.3.. i got it in there, but apt-get fglrx said that it didnt want the file,  somehow it wasnt linked to suse at all
[11:16] <holycow> not sure reD_Rum frankly i don't like redhat distro ... i do like the company and their people tho
[11:16] <Fish-Face> There's rudimentary support... It installs stuff, but it's shaky
[11:16] <reD_Rum> i haven't touched redhat in about 3 years so i dunno
[11:16] <reD_Rum> before ubuntu i had suse
[11:17] <ryman> are there any good IRC client beside Xchat ?
[11:17] <Fator_Dee> irssi
[11:17] <ShadowRage> oh
[11:17] <ShadowRage> I dont have ffmpeg installed
[11:17] <ShadowRage> THAT COULD BE IT
[11:17] <ShadowRage> >_>
[11:17] <ShadowRage> okay then
[11:17] <ShadowRage> later
[11:17] <holycow> reD_Rum, i used suse too, i had nothing but problems with it so i switched to debian
[11:17] <Nalioth> FC3 uses yum to mangle its rpms into place
[11:18] <Nalioth> ryman that is a good questin
[11:18] <ryman> Nalioth+  ???
[11:19] <Quest-Master> Yuck, SUSE
[11:19] <goldfish> ryman: irssi is the best irc client ever.
[11:19] <goldfish> apt-get irssi-text tbh
[11:19] <reD_Rum> holycow: suse pro was okay, came with most of the stuff i needed. but it was slow and installing packages was a pain. switched to ubuntu and never looked back
[11:19] <ryman> goldfish+  I think its installed in Ubuntu by default
[11:20] <goldfish> wasn't for me.
[11:20] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: that's what I hope to do in about 30 hours ;)
[11:20] <ryman> to run it
[11:20] <ryman> i type irssi in console irght ?
[11:20] <Fish-Face> I tried SuSE, but it didn't go well
[11:20] <ryman_> hello
[11:20] <goldfish> ryman: yep
[11:20] <Fish-Face> trouble with kernel-source, gcc and so on
[11:20] <ryman_> hehe I can't see the users list
[11:20] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: what distro are u using?
[11:20] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: SUSE
[11:20] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: lol
[11:21] <Fish-Face> :D
[11:21] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: indeed
[11:21] <bodaciousb> anyone in here running kubuntu?
[11:21] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: comparing suse to ubuntu is like comparing windows to suse
[11:21] <goldfish> bodaciousb: try #kubuntu
[11:21] <Fish-Face> Unfortunately, switching to Ubuntu doesn't fix a bug with my network card
[11:21] <Nalioth> bodaciousb, today is my kubuntu day
[11:21] <bodaciousb> goldfish, ok =)
[11:21] <goldfish> :)
[11:21] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: ;-)
[11:21] <Fish-Face> I have to include "ifup wlan0" as part of my startup script
[11:21] <reD_Rum> ubuntu, is so much faster.. i was surprised
[11:21] <Fish-Face> reD_Rum, I found that
[11:22] <bodaciousb> Nalioth, can kubuntu toggle between gnome and kde? or are you stuck with what you install?
[11:22] <Fish-Face> reD_Rum, except if I boot with the network card plugged in... There's a point where it stops for ages
[11:22] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: Well I'm looking to give ubuntu a try after it finishes downloading. ;)
[11:22] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: which will require a format of my SUSE install ;)
[11:22] <mjr> bodaciousb, you can choose either when logging in if you have both installed
[11:22] <Fish-Face> I was also attracted to the 1CD install of Ubuntu, over 3 for FC
[11:22] <SbCl3> how do i start the mysql server up?
[11:22] <Fish-Face> And apt-get dist-upgrade, as opposed to downloading three ISOs
[11:23] <SbCl3> i'm getting complaints from phpmyadmin that it can't load the mysql extension "mysql"
[11:23] <holycow> Fish-Face, heh, debian is up to something like 13 cds by now
[11:23] <mjr> bodaciousb, and you can install the usual gnome desktop by installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:23] <Nalioth> bodaciousb, i'm probably not up on my linux, but i think you have to log out of kubuntu to log into ubuntu
[11:23] <Fish-Face> holycow, yeah... I don't like the look of raw debian
[11:23] <bodaciousb> mjr, nice, im about to reformat my entire linux drive(Again)... should i use the kubuntu cd or ubuntu? if i want both...
[11:23] <Fish-Face> A bit archaic, old and so on
[11:23] <holycow> Fish-Face, not at all
[11:23] <Fish-Face> GNOME 2.10... that's more like it
[11:23] <zoddan> what is the default root pass in ubuntu ?
[11:23] <Fish-Face> zoddan, there isn't one
[11:23] <Fish-Face> zoddan, root's locked
[11:23] <zoddan> lol
[11:23] <SbCl3> how do you unlock it?
[11:24] <zoddan> how do i root then ?
[11:24] <Fish-Face> you can use sudo -s if you want a login shell for root
[11:24] <Fish-Face> or sudo <command> to execute a single command
[11:24] <mjr> bodaciousb, then it doesn't really matter; you install from the other, and then install the other desktop system from the net
[11:24] <bodaciousb> mjr, Nalioth ok.... so install kubuntu and add apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to my custom little after-reformat-script? sweet
[11:24] <zoddan> that sucks
[11:24] <holycow> debian will start to inherit ubuntu work post sid ... it's a big project
[11:24] <Fish-Face> zoddan, if you want a root account, do sudo passwd root
[11:24] <SbCl3> anyone know how to start the mysql server up?
[11:24] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: you will definately not regret it
[11:24] <Nalioth> bodaciousb, whatever you just said
[11:24] <zoddan> why do they have a root-console in the meny if you cant use it ?
[11:24] <zoddan> thats just stupid
[11:24] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: that's what I like to hear ;)
[11:24] <Fish-Face> zoddan, try your own password
[11:25] <Orathon> can someone name a good program for hosting a FTP server???
[11:25] <Fish-Face> zoddan, I believe that's what the prompt asks for ;)
[11:25] <k-dog2> Orathon: No.
[11:25] <jordanau> Orathon, vsftpd
[11:25] <zoddan> it was my own password
[11:25] <Nalioth> zoddan vestigial debian organ?
[11:25] <k-dog2> Orathon: ...however, if you must, proftp's among the least bad.
[11:25] <x_or> Does anyone here use a blackberry with their linux machine?  Is it possible to sync blackberry devices with ubuntu?
[11:25] <holycow> okay so anyone know the host/printer field syntax in the addprinter dialog in gnome 2.10?
[11:25] <reD_Rum> ohh finally my downloads from backports are finished, time for some cutting edge technology =p
[11:26] <holycow>  \workgroup\compy\printer <-- ist that correct? doesn't seem to work right
[11:26] <reD_Rum> ohh, firefox 1.0.3 =)
[11:26] <zoddan> damn my WLAN is not working :(
[11:26] <zoddan> card wont load :/
[11:26] <Fish-Face> zoddan, what have you done so far?
[11:27] <jordanau> zoddan, what kind of card?
[11:27] <holycow> is it a prism54 wlan card?
[11:27] <zoddan> nothing, just installed it
[11:27] <reD_Rum> this sucks, i dont see anything new about any of this
[11:27] <reD_Rum> lol
[11:27] <zoddan> holycow: yes
[11:27] <holycow> prism54.org, download the firmware for it
[11:27] <holycow> place it in the right folder and rename it
[11:27] <holycow> the instructions are on the site
[11:27] <zoddan> holycow: dont ubuntu have the firmwae allredy ?
[11:27] <holycow> module wont load because firmware cannot be distributed
[11:27] <holycow> of course not
[11:27] <holycow> its not free
[11:28] <zoddan> it was on the LiveCD
[11:28] <zoddan> stupid :P
[11:28] <holycow> no its not stupid
[11:28] <zoddan> yes it is
[11:28] <holycow> ubuntu is basically debian
[11:28] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: just have faith(tm) that it's different ;)
[11:28] <pshend> hi all. i'm trying to add repositories in synaptic on hoary but the window doesn't come up - there's an error on the console about no module pygtk
[11:28] <holycow> including its social policies
[11:28] <holycow> non free software is not included
[11:28] <reD_Rum> i'm taking backports out of my sources.list, downlaoding at 10kbps compared to 90 is not worth this =p
[11:28] <holycow> please read and install as required
[11:28] <pshend> any ideas whats up?
[11:28] <Fish-Face> Weird... I compiled at76c503 module, and didn't install atmel-firmware... Yet it works?
[11:29] <reD_Rum> how many people here use xfce with ubuntu btw?
[11:29] <zoddan> why is it on the LiveCD then ?
[11:29] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: I'm downloading ubuntu at 5.xxK/s :)
[11:29] <holycow> zoddan, just shutup and do what i told you
[11:29] <Fator_Dee> reD_Rum: o/
[11:29] <zoddan> haha
[11:29] <Fish-Face> holycow, lol
[11:29] <zoddan> holycow: im working on it :P
[11:29] <Fish-Face> holycow, you tell him ;-)
[11:30] <Orathon> zoddan, just copy the file fro mthe live cd into a flash usb or something and move it to the
[11:30] <jordanau> pshend, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: damn.. that sucks. installing packages is gonan be a pain
[11:30] <holycow> :) it's friday
[11:30] <Orathon> zoddan nvm..
[11:30] <jordanau> holycow, yeah dont remind me, i have 2 finals tomorrow
[11:30] <pshend> jordanau, but is there a problem with my pygtk setup?
[11:30] <zoddan> Orathon ?
[11:30] <reD_Rum> jordanau: on a saturday?
[11:31] <Orathon> zoddan, yes?
[11:31] <jordanau> reD_Rum, on a saturday
[11:31] <holycow> jordanau, :)
[11:31] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: yeah but I'm used to it.  Uhhh
[11:33] <zoddan> what was the name that i have to change to ?
[11:33] <zoddan> ls someting
[11:33] <Keizer> Who loves ALSA?
[11:33] <reD_Rum> jordanau: i feel your pain though. i've been using 56k until a couple of months ago
[11:33] <zoddan> the firmware
[11:33] <pshend> jordanau, ok, thanks
[11:33] <jordanau> reD_Rum, ???
[11:33] <lotusleaf> Keizer: Skype doesn't seem to
[11:33] <reD_Rum> jordanau: not you..
[11:33] <reD_Rum> i meant lotusleaf
[11:33] <bodaciousb> Alsa rocks... i jsut wish ubuntu didnt have that instilation flaw with the audigy input/output thing
[11:34] <lotusleaf> reD_Rum: yeah it sure is painful
[11:34] <Keizer> lotusleaf, OMG noooooo >_<
[11:34] <Keizer> Beep Media Player loves ALSA
[11:34] <Blissex> for ALSA documentation http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[11:34] <bluesign> is there a blindread like utility to recover CD for linux?
[11:34] <zoddan> holycow: ?
[11:34] <bodaciousb> i tried beep media player... i prefer xmms
[11:34] <Keizer> I prefer BMP!
[11:34] <Keizer> It's the Pimp Media Player
[11:35] <lotusleaf> I prefer making my hands sing, it frees up my CPU to do other things
[11:35] <Fish-Face> xmms smells like poop
[11:35] <Fish-Face> or rather, i find it vaguely repulsive
[11:35] <os|gaz> hello, can anyone help me with a graphics problem?
[11:35] <bodaciousb> i use a really high res.... and beep is just to damn small!
[11:35] <ryman> I'm not running any bittorent client but I see it in Firestarter Events
[11:35] <jordanau> well at least they are both better than that damn rhythmbox
[11:35] <lotusleaf> when I'm alone, my hands come alive and take a life of their own, they have their own unique personalities.
[11:36] <Fish-Face> jordanau, ugh, rhythmbox
[11:36] <reD_Rum> lotusleaf: oh, just admit your connection is too slow to download mp3s =p
[11:36] <Keizer> lotusleaf, Which finger likes 2.4 Kernel?
[11:36] <lotusleaf> Keizer: the middle one
[11:36] <jordanau> haha
[11:37] <Keizer> LOL
[11:37] <Keizer> That was nice
[11:37] <lotusleaf> Keizer: you set me up for it ;)
[11:37] <Waryas> Heya
[11:37] <bluesign> is there a tool in linux to recover data from defective CD?
[11:38] <Keizer> Level 42 - Heaven in My Hands
[11:38] <lotusleaf> I went to a hypnotist and paid them to "fool me once(tm)" into thinking my hands could come alive by being possessed by spirits when I was alone. It's hard to type because my hands want to talk
[11:38] <gazzie> can anyone help me getting my radeon 9700 pro working with 3d accel. in ubuntu?
[11:39] <Keizer> lotusleaf, That sounds about like an acid trip
[11:39] <gazzie> more specifically, can't get direct rendering running with xorg
[11:39] <shido6> install fglrx, gazzie
[11:40] <gazzie> i have been fking about with help from whyz this evening
[11:40] <shido6> got my 9800 working with it
[11:40] <boejka> hi:)
[11:40] <gazzie> i'm a new to linux today
[11:40] <shido6> took some searching
[11:40] <shido6> but it works
[11:40] <gazzie> tried a few things but not all working
[11:40] <gazzie> :P
[11:40] <zoddan> how do i upload the firmware to the card ?
[11:40] <Keizer> NO ATI DRIVERS FOR PPC LINUX >_<
[11:40] <shido6> google ubuntu fglrx radeon
[11:40] <lotusleaf> Keizer: ATI sux
[11:40] <shido6> my 9800 works great with ubuntu
[11:40] <shido6> just no tv capture or tv viewing yet
[11:41] <shido6> 3d accel works
[11:41] <transgress> http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto gazzie
[11:41] <transgress> gazzie: but instead of using dpkg-reconfigure run fglrxconfig
[11:41] <gazzie> hehe i just tried this
[11:41] <gazzie> ended up with X not loading on boot :))
[11:41] <reD_Rum> zoddan: go to your video card's vendor's website and they should have instructions and the software to do it with
[11:41] <zoddan> i need to upload the firmware to my prism54 card, how do i do that ?
[11:41] <transgress> gazzie: run fglrxconfig and make sure you remove the nvidia module
[11:41] <reD_Rum> zoddan: card*
[11:41] <zoddan> reD_Rum ?
[11:42] <transgress> gazzie: also, go into the file that it made called XFree86Conf-4 or whatever and change Keyboard to keyboard
[11:42] <reD_Rum> zoddan: i meant card dunno why i put video
[11:42] <dirty> part
[11:42] <transgress> then reboot
[11:42] <gazzie> heh, it's asking me about mouse, but my mouse isn't listed
[11:42] <gazzie> what now :P
[11:42] <zoddan> reD_Rum: im not talking about video
[11:42] <lotusleaf> boejka: read the ubuntu forums there's plenty of advantages mentioned ;)
[11:42] <whyz> gaz, xfree86conf-4 is xorg.conf in your case
[11:42] <zoddan> reD_Rum: im talking about WLAN
[11:42] <transgress> gazzie: just pick ps/2 with a wheel
[11:42] <reD_Rum> zoddan: as i just said, i put video on accident. i meant to just write card
[11:42] <transgress> anyways... i'm eating... ima correct some shit in that in a few
[11:42] <transgress> the wiki that is
[11:43] <zoddan> reD_Rum: ok
[11:43] <zoddan> reD_Rum: i need the commands that uploads it
[11:43] <zoddan> reD_Rum: so i can bring it up at boot
[11:43] <gazzie> Now give the full device name that the mouse is connected to, for example
[11:43] <gazzie> /dev/tty00 or /dev/mouse or /dev/psaux (includes IBM Laptops).
[11:43] <gazzie> helpoc
[11:43] <gazzie> :P
[11:43] <transgress> /dev/input/mice
[11:44] <gazzie> ok
[11:44] <gazzie> keyboard type... not a clue tbh
[11:44] <gazzie> noobiest questions of the night here?
[11:44] <transgress> 104 us
[11:44] <gazzie> i'm uk
[11:44] <fr500> is kotatsu here?
[11:44] <gazzie> :P
[11:44] <transgress> like i care... 104us will work for you
[11:45] <Fator_Dee> transgress: you think we are mindless minions :-p, "we'll work for you master, yessss..."
 :P
[11:47] <lotusleaf> lol mindless minions
[11:47] <Zen> hey all.. i need to know how to complete the process of installing from a tar.gz file
[11:48] <zoddan> ubuntu is not loading the firmware, why ?
[11:48] <Zen> a.s.a.p
[11:48] <lotusleaf> Zen: tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[11:48] <Fahim> can somebody name me kernel-source and the gcc C compiler for ubuntu?
[11:48] <transgress> well gazzie if you decide you want my xorg.conf ima post it on my site ... applies to anyone... it should work for most radeons i think... i chose fairly conservative shit on the syncs
[11:48] <zoddan> HEY ?
[11:49] <Zen> i have extracted the file
[11:49] <Zen> i have goten to the file dir
[11:49] <Trackilizer> i need your help guys
[11:49] <Zen> o i do ./configure?
[11:49] <Trackilizer> never used linux before
[11:50] <fr500> how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in a file?
[11:50] <gazzie> hmm trangress i'm quite some way through this config thing
[11:50] <Fator_Dee> Zen: is there perhaps a file called, README
[11:50] <gazzie> i'll get back to you on that offer if it fucks up
[11:50] <lotusleaf> Zen: ./configure && make \ then su -c "make install"
[11:50] <gazzie> :P
[11:50] <fnd> Zen, .tar.gz is just like a .zip or .rar, after that look for readme or install
[11:50] <transgress> http://irclikelife.com/othershit/xorg.conf <-- working radeon xorg.conf... remember to install fglrx, remove nvidia.ko, rape your mother, and reboot before using.
[11:50] <lotusleaf> Zen: or simplify it and use checkinstall program
[11:50] <gazzie> trangress:
[11:50] <Zen> thanks for the help
[11:50] <gazzie> External AGPGART module:
[11:50] <gazzie> It is possible (but not recommended) to turn off the usage of
[11:50] <gazzie> built-in agp support of the provided fglrx kernel module and
[11:50] <gazzie> use the external AGP GART module (agpgart.o) of the Linux kernel.
[11:50] <gazzie> If you want to use the external module then ensure that it loads
[11:50] <gazzie> prior to the drivers full startup.


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