[00:00] <daftykins> riceandbeans: your current attitude is getting old very fast, if you expect to receive assistance you should be pleasant
[00:00] <ikonia> riceandbeans: fuse does not support zfs as a native file system, it's a user space module
[00:00] <riceandbeans> there are 3rd party kernel modules to support it
[00:00] <ikonia> riceandbeans: so things like zpools are not supported on the host
[00:00] <ikonia> riceandbeans: so again - it's not supported in the OS
[00:00] <riceandbeans> ubuntu proudly imports malware, I see no reason they wouldn't support importing code like that
[00:01] <TehCaptain> is it sad that I got a few laughs from that?
[00:01] <GrimaceXL> still got disconnected from plymouth
[00:01] <GrimaceXL> mount -a gives device or resource busy
[00:01] <shinster> whats the typical power usage of a wireless card in linux
[00:01] <cuddylier> ikonia: My access and error logs don't show anything significant
[00:02] <bazhang> try ##hardware shinster
[00:02] <TehCaptain> powerful card (500mw) could use up to a watt
[00:02] <Juankof_Colombia> Habemus Ubuntu?
[00:03] <shinster> TehCaptain, My card is using almost 4w. a chromebook running ubuntu
[00:04] <daftykins> shinster: sorry, chromebooks aren't supported
[00:04] <shinster> daftykins, what do you mean?
[00:05] <daftykins> as in we can't really assist with installs of ubuntu on them
[00:05] <daftykins> as they're often hacked up jobs
[00:06] <shinster> daftykins, im just trying to get a general idea of how much power a wifi card uses in ubuntu
[00:06] <betabertus8899> like 13w
[00:06] <shinster> daftykins, I installed via usb like any other computer
[00:07] <daftykins> uh-huh
[00:07]  * ki7rw is wondering why the openssl heartbleed bug wasn't detected by linux gurus a lot earlier
[00:07] <ikonia> ki7rw: wonder in another channel please
[00:08] <ki7rw> ikonia: i don't believe i'm OT
[00:08] <ikonia> ki7rw: you are
[00:08] <ki7rw> openssl is linux based isn't it?
[00:08] <Humbedooh> no?
[00:08] <ikonia> ki7rw: yes it is
[00:09] <ikonia> ki7rw: and many other OS's
[00:09] <psusi> cuddylier, I had a thought today on your weird io write problem... maybe the filesystem on that particular server is badly fragmented and the others are not?
[00:09] <ikonia> however wondering why people missed a bug is nothing to do with ubuntu support, which is what this channel deals with
[00:09] <ki7rw> ikonia: are you an op?
[00:09] <DerpishCat> No, an OP always have an @ before their name.
[00:09] <cuddylier> psusi: It's a possibility I suppose..
[00:10] <ikonia> ki7rw: if I'm an op or not doesn't change the channels topic
[00:10] <ikonia> you can see it in /topic
[00:10] <SchrodingersScat> ki7rw: he told you it's OT, best practice is to take it to offtopic, making it a debate helps you not much
[00:10] <james0r2> i'll agree it's off topic and i'm neutral and don't care very much.
[00:10] <GrimaceXL> hey thanks daftykins its all working i just had to get around my own stupidity... thanks again!
[00:10] <ki7rw> well, i thought that it was appropriate for this channel - sorry that i upset so many people
[00:10] <ikonia> no problem
[00:11] <james0r2> sall good
[00:11] <psusi> cuddylier, is that one nearly full?  you might check e2freefrag
[00:11] <cuddylier> No, it is only like 10% used
[00:11] <psusi> ohh... then nevermind ;)
[00:11] <cuddylier> It's 2x1tb HDDs in Hardware RAID 1
[00:12] <psusi> and you said it was ext4, not ext3 right?
[00:13] <Guest62121> Anyone know how to set unbuntu server 13.10 to static ip command line
[00:14] <psusi> Guest62121, see man interfaces
[00:14] <Guest62121> So that is where I would change it
[00:15] <Frequency7> I have a great question that I haven't been able to get an answer for, and yes I did search on Google AND Bing. Will the upcoming 14.04 release have support for anal finally? I have a lot of devices that fit in the port, and it has tons of bandwidth, so I'd like to finally be able to utilize Open Source software deep inside my anus. I have been fisting myself all day in anticipation.
[00:15] <anon7893> wtf
[00:15] <Guest62121> Hahahahaha I had to read that twice
[00:16] <rww> Frequency7: no
[00:16] <anon7893> pff forget fiber anus is the future!!
[00:16] <james0r2> you had me at great question
[00:16] <Frequency7> oh sorry i use debian. wrong channel and off topic
[00:16] <Guest62121> you had me at anal
[00:17] <MLWALK3R> Any one know how to fix, invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of start.
[00:17] <daftykins> 'tis the season to be trolly :(
[00:17] <james0r2> i use debian too but i'm having a problem replicating his problem
[00:17] <daftykins> Guest62121: you'd be better off running 14.04 server instead of 13.10
[00:17] <Guest62121> Yeah cry I wasn't able to fix it with ease
[00:24] <AmexBallin> ok my friend told me that i can customize pf rules to block certain websites and shit well my gf is being wicked cunty lately and running faggy ass scams on facebook and shit so i was wondering if this setup would be possible i have a dell with 2 lan ports what if i put it between the time warner router and the switch so that all traffic has to go through it how can i block facebook and twitter and maybe gmail just to  make her s
[00:24] <AmexBallin> top hating and shit?
[00:24] <rww> ubottu: guidelines
[00:24] <rww> AmexBallin: go read that ^ and try again
[00:25] <Ninjaspark> How can i install a newer version of Ubuntu without PAE?
[00:26] <Guest62121> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:26] <bekks> Ninjaspark: Install an Ubuntu version that doesnt require PAE initially, and update to the current release.
[00:26] <Guest62121> or do sudo -i
[00:26] <Guest62121> type your password so you get root
[00:26] <AmexBallin> ok my friend told me that i can customize pf rules to block certain websites and **** well my gf is being wicked ***** lately and running ***** *** scams on facebook and **** so i was wondering if this setup would be possible i have a dell with 2 lan ports what if i put it between the time warner router and the switch so that all traffic has to go through it how can i block facebook and twitter and maybe gmail just to make her st
[00:26] <bekks> Guest62121: that has no effect on PAE requirements of the kernel.
[00:26] <Guest62121> then run that see if it will let you upgrade your distro
[00:26] <Guest62121> oh
[00:26] <ncp> any one know release time for CET?
[00:26] <Guest62121> Than nevermind hahah
[00:27] <bazhang> ncp no one knows
[00:27] <bekks> ncp: 23.59
[00:27] <rww> ncp: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[00:27] <ncp> hehe okay.. perhaps someone know.. you never know to you ask? :)
[00:27] <Ninjaspark> How should i "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" If i dont have a working version of Linux working in the first place?
[00:27] <bekks> Ninjaspark: just ignore that comment.
[00:30] <Ninjaspark> Can i find an ISO without PAE?
[00:33] <bekks> Ninjaspark: sure. use a 10.04 server iso, install it, update to 12.04 at least (one direct update step)
[00:33] <bekks> Ninjaspark: then install a desktop environment at will.
[00:34] <Ninjaspark> Okay, thanks bekks. :P
[00:35] <Bashing-om> Ninjaspark: Wait for 14.04 ->From 14.04 the boot option forcepae has been added, which eliminates the need for these workarounds.
[00:35] <bekks> Bashing-om: forcepae enforces pae - which is the opposite of what is wanted.
[00:36] <bekks> Bashing-om: isnt it? :)
[00:36] <rww> Assuming that your CPU actually does not have PAE and is not just pretending to not have PAE, forcepae will not help you.
[00:36] <Bashing-om> bekks: Sorry, guess I missread the intent.
[00:36] <rww> (some of them, for some bizzare reason, indeed pretend not to have PAE when they do)
[00:37] <Bashing-om> bekks: , Ninjaspark My source: info @ :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590
[00:39] <t4ng0> hello how many hours left for the LTS Realease? lol
[00:39] <bazhang> t4ng0, not known
[00:39] <t4ng0> lol
[00:39] <rww> t4ng0: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[00:39] <bekks> what would be the correct package to file a bug onto?: kickstart files for ubuntu dont respect the "%include" directive.
[01:07] <spray-> Right.  So.  Say I have a 1TB disk with an existing, happy Ubuntu 12.04LTS install on it, and a blank 1TB disk.  I want to RAID-1 mirror this.  Someone, anyone, have a sane way?
[01:08] <spray-> Is it just a matter of a 'dd' and building the array in the controller menu options?
[01:11] <spray-> And the only posts on this are coming back from 2004, and that makes me less-likely to trust it
[01:16] <SKELET0R> anyone using irssi know if you can switch between two irc channels?
[01:16] <SirLagz> SKELET0R: alt-1/2/3/4/5/...
[01:16] <SKELET0R> danke
[01:21] <psusi> irssi is a lot like BitchX, which is now defunct right?  not used those in ages
[01:21] <rww> psusi: irssi isn't much like BitchX, and BitchX isn't defunct.
[01:21] <rww> for starters, irssi is not crap
[01:21] <psusi> ohh?  interesting...
[01:21] <djangomobile> Guys for a windows partition what do I put for mount point
[01:22] <daftykins> anywhere you want
[01:22] <rww> djangomobile: whatever you want. /media/windows is one option.
[01:22] <daftykins> ooh-err
[01:22] <psusi> I used BitchX in the late '90s on a 43 line terminal... was pretty nice back then.
[01:23] <daftykins> that's lovely but a tad off topic i'm afraid (:
[01:23] <psusi> slackware had this awesome vga 43 line font I found that I've never been able to dig up again
[01:23] <djangomobile> Fuck it says root file system is denied
[01:23] <daftykins> careful on the language there
[01:24] <djangomobile> I created space on my hard drive for a Ubuntu boot now I need to load the operating system
[01:24] <djangomobile>  what do I choose for mount point
[01:24] <psusi> djangomobile, at a minimum, you need /
[01:24] <psusi> ( aka, the root directory )
[01:24] <djangomobile> I don't know what that means
[01:25] <fercho> What do you want to mount?
[01:25] <psusi> you need something mounted in "/"
[01:25] <camara> Hello
[01:25] <camara> Please I need help with something
[01:25] <djangomobile> Why "/", and not any other
[01:26] <psusi> because / is the top level directory under which everything else lies
[01:26] <psusi> aka, the root
[01:26] <djangomobile> Do I use ext3
[01:26] <psusi> ext4 is better
[01:26] <camara> My hard disk is two big partations, I installed ubuntu 12.04 on the D drive which has most of my data, now I can't see this partition in ubuntu, how can I access it?
[01:26] <djangomobile> Why
[01:26] <psusi> it handles large files better, more space efficient, is fscked faster, many reasons
[01:27] <djangomobile> Cool
[01:27] <djangomobile> I clicked revert waiting on it
[01:27] <djangomobile> Btw my laptop is kind of hot
[01:27] <psusi> amd gpu?
[01:28] <djangomobile> I have intel
[01:28] <tytan> Is the "gnome-panel" still available in Trusty Thar?
[01:28] <fercho> You mean "D:" like windows disk labels?
[01:28] <psusi> you might be able to run sudo sensors in a terminal to check temperatures
[01:29] <Bashing-om> camara: Show us what we are working with -> pastebinit sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l  ...
[01:29] <rww> !info gnome-panel trusty | tytan
[01:29] <camara> ok hold on
[01:29] <psusi> you might need to play around with the lm-sensors package and the sensors-detect command to be able to monitor fan speeds too
[01:29] <psusi> this isn't an ibm thinkpad is it?
[01:29] <djangomobile> Ok
[01:30] <djangomobile> Yes haha
[01:30] <djangomobile> Lenovo idea pad
[01:30] <psusi> they have gained a bit of noteriety as crap laptops... they seem to refuse to run the fans at full speed even when hot
[01:30] <djangomobile> Damn
[01:30] <psusi> there was some knob somewhere you could echo "disengaged" to and force it to go full speed
[01:30] <camara> D: as in windows labels yes
[01:31] <Gl4di4t0r> I don't get it. Where is 14.04 RC ???
[01:32] <camara> bashing-om: the command is not working
[01:32] <fercho> camara: Did you resize that partition? Or you dedicated it to Ubuntu?
[01:32] <camara> dedicated it to Ubuntu
[01:32] <camara> didn't resize
[01:33] <camara> I just choose that drive for Ubuntu
[01:33] <psusi> Gl4di4t0r, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:33] <camara> because the other one has Windows installed on it
[01:33] <Beldar> camara, YOu install ubuntu from windows or a live cd?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> camara: Are you on ubuntu ? LiveDVD ? then to install bastebinit -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[01:33] <psusi> camara, what do you mean you can't see it?  if that is where you installed ubuntu, then that is where everything is
[01:33] <djangomobile> Location for new partition should I put beginning or end
[01:33] <spray-> Or, maybe I should ask a different way: Can I boot off a live CD, do "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096", and have a complete mirror of my /dev/sda disk on /dev/sdb, permissions correct, bootable, etc?
[01:34] <fercho> camara: So there is no more "D:" partition, when you installed Ubuntu in it, you have formatted it to ext4, your data inside doesn't exists anymore
[01:34] <psusi> djangomobile, wherever you want it
[01:34] <camara> Beldar: I installed it from windows
[01:34] <Beldar> camara, That is a wubi.
[01:35] <djangomobile> But what does it mean beginning or end
[01:35] <psusi> wubi is the devil
[01:35] <camara> Psusi: I don't have a drive that holds the rest of the data where Ubuntu was installed.
[01:35] <psusi> djangomobile, near the beginning of the drive, or the end of the drive...
[01:35] <djangomobile> Lol
[01:36] <psusi> camara, if you did a wubi install, then the windows drive that holds the file that holds ubuntu is visible in /host
[01:36] <djangomobile> Now it says I need to assign a swap partition that's optional
[01:36] <djangomobile>  should I go back
[01:36] <psusi> how much ram do you have?
[01:36] <djangomobile> 8gb
[01:37] <psusi> then I'd say no
[01:37] <psusi> shouldn't need swap with that much ram
[01:37] <djangomobile> So just continue
[01:38] <harsesus> I get a core dump anytime I try to play any wmv files in vlc or totem, but mplay seems to work just fine, could anyone assist?
[01:39] <bpace> did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[01:39] <harsesus> yep
[01:40] <bpace> I've never seen that. Are they high resolution wmv?
[01:40] <harsesus> and other formats seem to work just fine, and the thumbnailer crashes if a folder has wmv files in it
[01:40] <walruslt45> Heyyo
[01:40] <camara> Ok guys how can I make "/dev/sda3" avaliable as an icon in my launch bar?
[01:41] <harsesus> any I have tried... and I grabbed a few sample videos online of a smaller size
[01:41] <camara> sorry too many noobish questions
[01:41] <camara> or "/host"
[01:41] <walruslt45> Is there any channel for assembler help related question?
[01:41] <Fuchs> walruslt45: yes.
[01:42] <walruslt45> i found, sorry
[01:42] <Fuchs> walruslt45: ##asm would be an example, and: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[01:42] <djangomobile> Should I be worried about my computer temperature
[01:43] <echoma> list
[01:43] <harsesus> I don't know the procedures to find the root cause.
[01:44] <camara> psusi: I found it, and I'm wondering how can I make that available as an Icon for me? on the desktop or in launch bar
[01:44] <psusi> djangomobile, depends on what the temperature is
[01:44] <fercho> Did you try reinstalling vlc?
[01:44] <djangomobile> I'm saying BC I have lenovo
[01:44] <Beldar> camara, Hardly anyone uses wubi, it is not part of releases now, and never had any real steady support.
[01:44] <psusi> camara, I think it will show up if you create a directory in /media, and bind mount it there... so sudo mkdir /media/windows and sudo mount --bind /host /media/windows
[01:45] <psusi> but yea, you would be best served by doing a real install instead of using wubi
[01:45] <harsesus> yes but no luck, the problem appears in totem as well... which leads me to believe the route cause is something else, I just don't know how to go any further
[01:45] <harsesus> *root
[01:45] <camara> hmmm OKey thanks guys Beldar psusi
[01:46] <djangomobile> How do I setup so on boot I get Ubuntu or windows option
[01:46] <djangomobile> Ubuntu installation just finished and I press the restart now
[01:46] <reisio> djangomobile: as opposed to what?
[01:46] <psusi> djangomobile, it is automatic
[01:46] <djangomobile> Yeah I thought it was supposed to be automatic but not at a press restart the option to come up
[01:46] <reisio> djangomobile: ...what does come up
[01:46] <djangomobile> Windowa
[01:47] <fercho> harsesus: Which version of vlc you have installed? ($ vlc --version)
[01:48] <harsesus> dmesg indicates a segfault in ndowa                                                                        aaearon
[01:48] <djangomobile> Yeah i tried again and it just went straight to windows
[01:48] <harsesus> sorry... 2.1.3  I think...
[01:48] <djangomobile> Now it says CHKDSK is veryfying files
[01:50] <delinquentme> So I'm trying to find a junit*.jar file ... which I THINK is already installed on my system
[01:50] <delinquentme> I think this because $ which junit >> /usr/bin/junit
[01:50] <harsesus> I get a segfault in libvlccore.so.7.0.0 for vlc, and for totem,  I get multiqueue0:src with a segfault in libgstlibav.so
[01:50] <delinquentme> however theres no *.jar file there
[01:53] <fercho> harsesus: Is there something related to libavcodec in the dump?
[01:54] <keith_> does anyone know how to find out what application is grabbing a key combination?
[01:55] <fercho> delinquentme: try sudo updatedb && sudo locate junit | grep .jar
[01:55] <fercho> delinquentme: or sudo find / -name junit
[01:56] <reisio> keith_: grabbing?
[01:56] <harsesus> libgstlibav.so appears to be a component of gstreamer, which encounters the totem segfault
[01:56] <delinquentme> Yeah located the file .. so now I need maven / java to be able to locate this file ... howdo?
[01:57] <harsesus> I know removing libavcodec and trying to play a wmv caused totem to prompt me to install it, which I did, it runs for a second then dumps again
[01:59] <keith_> reisio: so for example i use an application where "Control+Space" is an important key combination.  It normally works, but when I switch to a different window manager, it is failing.  So I'm wondering if I can find out if there is another app that is "intercepting/grabbing" the control+space key so that my app doesn't get it
[01:59] <sweetlew> Can somebody help me? I'm trying to see if I can run Lubuntu Software Center in Precise Puppy 5.7.1.
[02:00] <daftykins> sweetlew: sorry we don't support other distributions
[02:00] <daftykins> and i somewhat doubt that's possible
[02:00] <bpace> keith_ is it launchy?
[02:01] <keith_> bpace, no it's eclipse
[02:01] <SeaSki> http://tinyurl.com/o3w4qt6
[02:01] <Morgan_Freeman> http://tinyurl.com/o3w4qt6
[02:01] <fercho> harsesus: try reinstalling gstreamer1.0, I search about the seg fault and appears to be a bug
[02:03] <aaa801> So, can anyone see anything wrong with this screen command, getting failed to open terminal, sudo -u PixelServer screen -mS pixelmon -c /home/Servers/Pixel2/.screenrc
[02:04] <reisio> keith_: if all you changed was your wm, I'd say it's a safe bet that's it
[02:04] <fercho> delinquentme: You mean the basedir?
[02:04] <django> psusi
[02:05] <django> psusi mind if i pm you
[02:06] <foist> I recently repartitioned my drive and reinstalled Ubuntu. Any way for me to recover some files I loset in the partition?
[02:06] <foist> lost*
[02:08] <fercho> foist: try testdisk: $ sudo apt-get install testdisk
[02:08] <foist> fercho: trying that now.
[02:11] <harsesus> fercho: removing gstreamer doesn't seem to effect vlc, it still core dumps
[02:11] <harsesus> both vlc and totem core dump with wmv files
[02:13] <djangomobile> Psusi you herr
[02:16] <shunya_chakra> when will ubuntu 14.04 will release?
[02:16] <daftykins> shunya_chakra: when the website says so
[02:17] <somsip> !isitout
[02:17] <shunya_chakra> :) thanks daftykins
[02:17] <shunya_chakra> today is 17 :D
[02:18] <harsesus> I get a segfaults from libgstlibav.so after reinstalling  gstreamer1.0-libav
[02:20] <billy12321232123> Does anyone know what time Ubuntu 14.04 will become downloadable?
[02:20] <ablegreen> Which is less safe and why? HTTP with no SSL or HTTP with SSL + Heartbleed vunerability?
[02:20] <fercho> harsesus: check your VLC version with the VideoLAN's page latest version
[02:21] <billy12321232123> ablegreen: I would say HTTP with SSL because at least with normal HTTP hackers can't read loaded information
[02:21] <ablegreen> hmm okay.
[02:21] <harsesus> I am on version 2.1.3, the current version
[02:22] <saiarcot895> !isitout | billy12321232123
[02:22] <billy12321232123> ubottu, today is the 17 here, what time zone do they work on, GMT?
[02:23] <nullbyte_> USA maybe
[02:23] <harsesus> my question is what could cause a duplicate issue in both vlc and totem, or how to I begin to hunt it down
[02:23] <saiarcot895> billy12321232123: ubottu is a bot, and it could be Eastern time, it could be GMT, it could be Ubuntu time
[02:23] <harsesus> concerning wmv files only
[02:23] <billy12321232123> hmn, not sure. Oh well, it should be ready sometime tomorrow at least
[02:23] <saiarcot895> *Eastern Standard Time in the US
[02:24] <nullbyte_> here is 5:30 at night:)
[02:24] <nullbyte_> i think after 3hrs will be ready
[02:24] <somsip> billy12321232123: it's always 'some time' with no further definition. Chill.
[02:24] <nullbyte_> (USA)
[02:24] <nullbyte_> I mean here in europe
[02:25] <billy12321232123> somsip: I'm not worried I was just wondering if anyone knew
[02:25] <Lapps> Hi, do "firmware" packages for devices on Ubuntu actually load anything on those devices? Or is that stuff just used by the OS and thus not touching any hardware?
[02:26] <fercho> harsesus, wow... I search about your problem and it exists on previous VLC versions,
[02:26] <fercho> harsesus, what about ffmpeg?
[02:26] <billy12321232123> Lapps: I'm not 100% sure but I believe the firmware is part of the drivers, and only used by the system
[02:27] <slimjimflim> hi, what time zone is the official ubuntu release time?
[02:27] <Lapps> billy12321232123: many thanks.
[02:27] <slimjimflim> i'm chomping at the bit for Trusty Tahr
[02:27] <billy12321232123> Lapps: I wouldn't think the OS would autocratically flash a device connected to your computer ;)
[02:27] <billy12321232123> slimjimflim: There is not one, I asked that a few mins ago
[02:27] <Lapps> billy12321232123: I didn't either, that's why it seemed odd. :P
[02:28] <harsesus> ffmpeg is version 7:2.2
[02:28] <finisherr> Is there a way to get my display connected to the mini dvi porn on my MacBook to know that my TV is connected?  Would be nice if it was hot pluggable
[02:28] <finisherr> port*
[02:28] <harsesus> hehe freudian slip?
[02:28] <slimjimflim> billy12321232123: ohok.  well i'm upgrading as soon as it gets released :D
[02:29] <finisherr> harsesus: I've made that mistake before ha
[02:29] <billy12321232123> slimjimflim: Same
[02:29] <fercho> harsesus, mmm and do you have installed gstreamer1.0-libav?
[02:29]  * harsesus can tell by your nick
[02:30] <billy12321232123> BTW, to anyone who wants to find me again, I usually use the nick "Tilo15" but I can't log in because I'm away and left my password book at home
[02:30] <meway> Hello I'm on a Lenovo y410 laptop running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get my graphics card known/working properly with the drivers and stuffs? :D
[02:30] <harsesus> yes fercho, that is the codec that throws the error when libgstlibav.so throws a segfault
[02:30] <finisherr> It's actually a stupid refference to mortal kombat
[02:30]  * meway likes mortal kombat
[02:31] <finisherr> but in any case, how can I configure ubuntu to statically remember my second display?
[02:31] <daftykins> all of you who are asking about ubuntu release time, do you really think there'll be some magical secret sauce in the final ISOs? why not just install, go have a nap, then update tomorrow? :) the mirrors are all going to be absolutely hammered anyway
[02:31] <billy12321232123> ooh, what's #ubuntu+1
[02:32] <saiarcot895> billy12321232123: channel for next version of ubuntu
[02:33] <john_rambo> daftykins, I had a bad experience with beta2 ...aftre updating the last available kernel wont work ...But most probably thats an isolated case
[02:33] <fercho> Try to purge all, vlc, gstreamer, totem and reinstalling all again,  otherwise it can be a bug
[02:33] <fercho> harsesus,
[02:33] <hoanb1> what's time ubuntu 14.04 available to download
[02:33] <saiarcot895> billy12321232123 and slimjimflim: also, for the record, you can run "do-release-upgrade -d -f=gnome" to get 14.04 (packages are in a freeze, so the packages as they are now will be the release packages
[02:33] <billy12321232123> saiarcot895: Yeah, I found that, but I was hoping it would have release time
[02:34] <saiarcot895> hoanb1: some time in the next 24 hours.
[02:34] <rww> hoanb1: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[02:34] <harsesus> It must be something affecting both, I need to be able to go beyond just reading off dmesg error to get to the problem or file a bug if there is one, but I don't know how to track any further
[02:34] <hoanb1> thanks
[02:34] <billy12321232123> saiarcot895: I think Ill wait for the official release
[02:35] <fercho> harsesus, I've searched about your dmesg error and found nothing :/
[02:36] <harsesus> thanks fercho, I had about the same luck.  what I really would like to know is what to do next
[02:36] <LucienG> o/
[02:37] <LucienG> I was directed here by a friend in another IRC about trying to get Ubuntu to use my AMD driver I installed
[02:37] <fercho> harsesus, which ubuntu release do you use?
[02:37] <harsesus> 14.04
[02:37] <LucienG> Is it safe to uninstall mesa if it still exists alongside fglrx?
[02:40] <ubuntuaddicted> is it possible to upgrade from 12.04 straight to 14.04?
[02:41] <_2_Beyonka> Herro?
[02:41] <django> how do i know if i am running the actual ubuntu or the "TRY"
[02:42] <_2_Beyonka> Hi im beyonka
[02:42] <daftykins>  django type 'mount' and pastebin it
[02:42] <django> daftykins:  what?
[02:42] <django> where do i type that
[02:43] <daftykins> django: in a terminal, hit ctrl+alt+t
[02:43] <_2_Beyonka> 6-9 derp
[02:43] <SKELET0R> i just installed a bittorrent client, where do most apps install to so i can setup the mime handler
[02:43] <reisio> SKELET0R: most executables are in /usr/bin/
[02:43] <django> daftykins:  what does pastebin in it mean
[02:43] <reisio> dpkg -L deluge | grep bin
[02:43] <LucienG> I've got this sort of output for `locate libGL.so`, is it safe to uninstall mesa to force my system to use fglrx? http://hastebin.com/migacemepo
[02:43] <_2_Beyonka> So lost
[02:43] <reisio> _2_Beyonka: I found you!
[02:43] <SKELET0R> many thanks reisio
[02:44] <reisio> LucienG: you should be able to force it other ways
[02:44] <reisio> SKELET0R: also, lay of my bro He-man :p
[02:44] <daftykins> django: visit paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output of what that command gives, into there, then link us by pasting the link in here
[02:44] <_2_Beyonka> Um yay? Who are u
[02:44] <reisio> _2_Beyonka: I'm me of course
[02:44] <LucienG> reisio: Such as? Applications trying to open a GL context tell me that they can't find "swrast_dri.so" which is the software rasterizer; no idea why that'd be being looked for
[02:45] <django> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7265223/
[02:46] <daftykins> django: yep that's the live session aka 'try'
[02:47] <django> fuck
[02:47] <reisio> LucienG: you don't have it?
[02:47] <django> daftykins:  i downloaded ubuntu, i restart computer and there option isnt there...in windows7 i checked adn there isnt an option to change auto OS boot option
[02:49] <reisio> django: what is there?
[02:49] <LucienG> reisio: It looks for it in the fglrx installation directory too, which is concerning, I'd think.
[02:49] <kupo_> what's the linux mint channel again?
[02:49] <LucienG> Not sure why it'd be trying to invoke the software rasterizer
[02:49] <rww> ubottu: mintsupport | kupo_
[02:49] <reisio> kupo_: the proper one is on irc.spotchat.org
[02:49] <django> only windows7
[02:49] <kupo_> thanks
[02:49] <django> when I actually try and install ubuntu again it says that ubuntu has already been installed
[02:49] <kupo_> kk thanks again
[02:49] <dutchuss2016> i have a problem with installing from a deb file see here http://postimg.org/image/9e6erg70n/
[02:49] <django> How do i know where ubntu has been installed
[02:50] <reisio> django: you could from the 'try' option
[02:50] <dutchuss2016> are you on windows?
[02:50] <reisio> django: you installed Ubuntu after you installed Windows?
[02:50] <django> no
[02:50] <django> i have windows7 shrinekd volume of my C drive and want to install ubuntu on it
[02:50] <django> i thought i had done it correctly but i guess npt
[02:50] <reisio> django: you installed Ubuntu after you installed Windows?
[02:51] <django> I never installed windows, it came with my computer
[02:51] <reisio> django: k
[02:51] <django> how do i know where ubuntu was installed
[02:51] <reisio> django: probably just your ubuntu boot loader is confused
[02:52] <django> lol
[02:52] <django> do you have any solutions?
[02:52] <reisio> django: from the live OS? 'lsblk -f' should be fairly telling
[02:52] <reisio> I got all the solutions :)
[02:52] <django> so what do i do :s
[02:52] <django> im thinking of just dumping w7 all together and just sticking to ubuntu
[02:52] <django> i barely even game, the only reason i would keep w7
[02:54] <dutchuss2016> django:: im going to pm uu i will help you
[02:54] <harsesus> so... can anyone suggest where to go, to recap, for wmv, mplayer works, vlc and totem core dump, each show a respective .so segfault, ubuntu 14.04, vlc 2.1.3, gstreamer1.0-libav 1.2.3-1... what next step should I take
[02:54] <django> thanks!
[02:54] <scipy53> Has anyone installed this successfully?
[02:54] <scipy53> http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[02:55] <Aaruni> anyone know around what time trusty will be released ?
[02:56] <rww> Aaruni: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[02:56] <daftykins> Aaruni: when you least suspect it
[02:57] <bobfox> excited for release of 14.04. currently finishing my review article.
[02:57] <Aaruni> it'll take around an hour to download it on my connection, and need to upgrade to it today.
[02:57] <greeter> april 17th... hmm, 3 minutes from now, cool
[02:57] <reisio> Aaruni: an hour? :/
[02:58] <bobfox> ~20mins on my connection usually.
[02:58] <Aaruni> reisio, 2 megabits per second  connection
[02:58] <kupo_> my update connection hasnt been too bad today actually. figured it'd be worse due to LTS arriving soon
[02:59] <reisio> Aaruni: 'minimalcd'?
[02:59] <kupo_> yeah. are they releasing that at same time?
[02:59] <saiarcot895> kupo_: fortunately, not all of Precise users will be upgrading to 14.04 on the same day (or week)
[02:59] <Aaruni> reisio, what use be minimalCD, if I want full install ?
[02:59] <Aaruni> and I dunno how to install via CLI
[03:00] <kupo_> do they always release mini cd same day as official release?
[03:01] <thufail> hi ,. i am new linux user, i have install ubuntu studio on my computer but there is something problem when i try to play music and video,, the problem says "Parole Media Player requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: Sorenson Spark Video decoder"
[03:01] <thufail> somebody help me how to fix it
[03:01] <thufail> sory i m nubie
[03:01] <Player> you need to install codecs
[03:01] <finisherr> Is there a way to list available video drivers on your system?
[03:03] <thufail> it says i must download a libs but when i click yes there is error
[03:04] <kupo_> thufailll install ubuntu restricted extras
[03:05] <kupo_> and all will be well
[03:05] <kupo_> or most likely will be well
[03:05] <kupo_> wowww blackchat
[03:05] <thufail> how to install it,. its my first flight on linux
[03:06] <kupo_> software center has it
[03:06] <reisio> thufail: :)
[03:06] <reisio> thufail: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:07] <Aaruni> rww, you told me to go to #ubuntu-release-party , but didn't tell me I could subscribe to ubuntu-release mail list. y u do dis ?
[03:07] <thufail> thanks kupo_ and reisio.. will try it
[03:12] <LrdArc> I always get "File name can't be put in the trash. Do you want to delete it immediately?" everytime I press delete button, no matter is it local or on mounted devices.. I used 14.04 beta
[03:12] <reisio> LrdArc: always meaning?
[03:12] <rww> Aaruni: thankfully, I put ubuntu-announce in the /topic of #ubuntu-release-party. yvw :P
[03:13] <LrdArc> I can't send the files into Trash. everytime.
[03:13] <thufail> does someone here speak bahasa?
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> thufail: what language is this?
[03:14] <greeter> indonesian or malaysian i believe
[03:14] <LrdArc> it's indonesian
[03:14] <thufail> indonesian
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> !in | LrdArc
[03:14] <rww> !id
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> oops
[03:14] <reisio> 'bahasa'? Is an English transliteration for a word that can refer to many languages
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> rww: tnx
[03:15] <Aaruni> wut, we have an indian channel ? and I never knew.
[03:15] <LrdArc> noone there. lol
[03:21] <alice_> what do we do here?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> alice_: supporting ubuntu questions
[03:22] <reisio> alice_: stuff, things
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> alice_: maybe we can help you with something?
[03:23] <alice_> i wanted to know more about how irc works
[03:23] <daftykins> this isn't the place then
[03:23] <rww> alice_: /join #freenode if you have questions about that :)
[03:23] <alice_> ok
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> alice_: if you installed the most popular Os ubuntu, we could show you around here :p
[03:24] <alice_> then if i have a query reagrding ubuntu, i can ask that
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> alice_: the bot is meant for ubuntu triggers only, not irc specific questions
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> alice_: what operating system do you use?
[03:26] <alice_> ubuntu 10.24
[03:26] <django> dutchuss2016
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> alice_: 10.04?
[03:26] <alice_> typo
[03:26] <alice_> yes thats it
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> alice_: well we really recommend to upgrade to a higher version
[03:27] <alice_> how do i upgrade?
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> alice_: well 14.04 will come out soon, so maybe wait until its out and do a clean install
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> !usb | alice_
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> alice_: download the 14.04 iso when it comes out, then put on a stick and install it on your computer
[03:29] <alice_> just rechecked i have ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit os
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> alice_: ah thats better then
[03:30] <alice_> what do i do to free disk space to install new updates?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> alice_: you can either choose to use it longer, or upgrade to 14.04 soon
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> alice_: how big is your HD?
[03:31] <alice_> i have no option  other tahn using it longer
[03:31] <sakang> download server is not responding at all. probably swamped right now bec 14.04 is released?
[03:31] <alice_> it says disk space 300 gb
[03:31] <alice_> memory 7gb
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> alice_: you can see free space from terminal: df -h
[03:32] <alice_> wait a bit doing that
[03:33] <alice_> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:33] <alice_> /dev/sda6        38G  7.4G   29G  21% /
[03:33] <alice_> udev            3.5G  4.0K  3.5G   1% /dev
[03:33] <alice_> tmpfs           1.5G  936K  1.5G   1% /run
[03:33] <alice_> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[03:33] <alice_> none            3.6G  292K  3.6G   1% /run/shm
[03:33] <unopaste> alice_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:34] <mikeche1en> alice_: it looks like you have 29G free space, that should be plenty
[03:34] <mikeche1en> sakang: use a different mirror?
[03:37] <Cheekio> Anyone familiar with how to get nouveau drivers working?  Do I need it for nouveau?
[03:38] <daftykins> bumblebee is for making use of an nvidia chip in an optimus setup
[03:38] <daftykins> you can't use nouveau with optimus
[03:38] <Cheekio> god damn
[03:38] <Cheekio> you can't use nvidia drivers with optimus either
[03:38] <daftykins> curb that language please.
[03:39] <daftykins> you can with bumblebee
[03:39] <daftykins> !bumblebee
[03:39] <shirox> About compiling stuff in linux (software). I compiled main.cpp, and apparently<PHONE_NUMBER>3709551503 and a value contained in an unsigned long. So if I compile a program on a 64bit machine, I get 64 bit variables?
[03:39] <alice_>  The upgrade needs a total of 27.4 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 8,976 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[03:39] <alice_>  this is the msg i get
[03:39] <daftykins> Cheekio: *but* your best bet for optimus is to install 14.04 and try either bumblebee or nvidia-prime
[03:39] <alice_> this is the msg i get when i try to updates
[03:39] <Cheekio> Optimus would need to be disabled in bios. I contacted Nvidia and they said their linux drivers don't support optimus laptops.
[03:40] <cyphase> random fact; i was pleasantly surprised the other day when i booted a live 13.10 instance and my relatively recent nvidia gpu worked out of the box with 3d using nouveau
[03:40] <daftykins> Cheekio: optimus doesn't work like that, it's not a 'on/off' thing
[03:40] <daftykins> Cheekio: there are plenty of guides available for getting it running with bumblebee, but like i said, best approach is with 14.04
[03:41] <Cheekio> Could you help me find a guide?
[03:41] <Cheekio> Also, here's nvidia's word on the subject: http://imgur.com/g2GtIoX
[03:42] <Cheekio> sorry, I apparently highlighted something
[03:42] <Cheekio> here we go: http://imgur.com/Bs6Lorg
[03:43] <Cheekio> Also, is 14.04 live?
[03:45] <alice_>  how to remove temporary packages in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:46]  * wiky is away: I'm busy
[03:46]  * wiky is back (gone 00:00:12)
[03:46]  * wiky is away: I'm busy
[03:46] <sakang> alice_: apt-get clean
[03:47] <rww> which won't help with /boot being full
[03:47] <sakang> alice_: or aptitude autoclean
[03:47] <hoanb1> Cheekio: Still waiting!
[03:47] <Cheekio> The internet says 14.04 server LTS is available tomorrow
[03:48] <phuh> 14.04 LTS any good?!?!
[03:48] <alice_> sakang apt get clean doesnt work
[03:48] <phuh> does it rock or suck
[03:49] <Cheekio> So, will it be available in like 12 minutes or are we thinking mid day release
[03:49] <phuh> Cheekio: that's the sort of questions I want to ask you
[03:49] <daftykins> it's out WHEN IT IS READY
[03:50] <daftykins> :P
[03:50] <Cheekio> And what about upgrading?
[03:50] <miao> 你好
[03:50] <b13> What's supposed to be "new" in 14.04?
[03:50] <Cheekio> I'd be happy to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 if it wasn't assuredly going to make me miss work tomorrow.
[03:50] <miao> 操
[03:51] <ubuntuaddicted> b13, they moved the application menus back into the top bar of the app instead of it being in the main upper panel
[03:51] <rww> #ubuntu is for support of Ubuntu releases that are out right now. #ubuntu+1 is for discussion and support of 14.04/Trusty.
[03:52] <ranjan> ETA for ubuntu 14.04?
[03:53] <cyphase> T-when-it's-ready
[03:53] <rww> ranjan: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[03:53] <sakang> alice_: you asked how, and those are the tools for clearing apt cache
[03:53] <jje> yay party
[03:53] <ranjan> rww: thank you :) joining #ubuntu-release-party
[03:53] <alice_> sakang: thanks
[03:54] <sakang> alice_: pls do du -sh /boot
[03:55] <Cheekio> So, in terms of tech support, I could totally use some
[03:55] <Cheekio> I can't even full screen video at this point, I'm using fbdev and it's awful
[03:55] <Cheekio> moving windows in unity literally eats up a third of my CPU. I'm on an i7-4900mq
[03:55] <Cheekio> That's more clock cycles than it takes to run an entire game of Super Mario Brothers.
[03:56] <Cheekio> I guess my question is how do I find the best solution where I use my dedicated nvidia card at all, and then how do I implement it.
[03:57] <Cheekio> Should I be putting 'bumblebee' in my xorg conf?
[03:57] <z8z> ranjan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[03:58] <ranjan> thank you z8z
[03:59] <Cheekio> daftykins, could you help me with a little more information on the subject?
[04:00] <Cheekio> I really have googled and tried multiple solutions at this point, each one leads to the same broken video drivers on login
[04:00] <johnnyhangle> hi there.. im trying install nvidia driver on ubuntu 14.04.. my video card is a nvidia geforce 8400 cs.. im a little confused about binary drivers and legacy drivers.. which one should i use
[04:02] <xangua> !14.04 | johnnyhangle
[04:02] <daftykins> Cheekio: sorry no, not when you obviously can't google for yourself for the tens of guides out there on the subject, nor the links i already gave
[04:04] <johnnyhangle> yeah thanks ubottu but that not that answer im looking for
[04:04] <rww> johnnyhangle: Then /join #ubuntu+1 and look for a better one, or wait until 14.04 isn't a pre-release and come back here :)
[04:04] <Cheekio> daftykins, I didn't actually see you post any links.
[04:04] <kieppie> !14.04
[04:04] <kieppie> !trusty
[04:05] <Cheekio> I apologize. I've also stated a couple of times I've google the subject repeatedly
[04:05] <daftykins> Cheekio: watch carefully i'll do it again
[04:05] <daftykins> !bumblebee
[04:05] <Cheekio> I'm astounded.
[04:06] <johnnyhangle> whats the difference its being released tomorrow
[04:06] <rww> johnnyhangle: Then come back tomorrow.
[04:06] <Cheekio> If you think I haven't been to bumblebee-project.org then you've been paying less attention to what I've said than you're accusing me of paying to you.
[04:06] <Cheekio> I apologize, I'll continue to work on the problem myself and if I still don't have it fixed I'll be back in a few hours.
[04:10] <B0073D> Isn't 14.04 supposed to come out today?
[04:10] <harsesus> For wmv, mplayer works, vlc and totem core dump, each show a respective .so segfault, ubuntu 14.04, vlc 2.1.3 (and 2.2), gstreamer1.0-libav 1.2.3-1... what next step should I take to figure out what is causing this
[04:12] <Tilo15> B0073D: Depends on what timezone you're in, I'm in NZ
[04:12] <B0073D> Tilo15: AUS hehe
[04:13] <rww> B0073D: yes, it's probably going to come out today, for some definition of today that is not the .au one :P
[04:13] <B0073D> Probably. Oh well. Tomorrow maybe then.
[04:19] <axizor> Got a security question for some of you gurus out there
[04:19] <axizor> It's easy
[04:19] <axizor> What's the simplest, most secure way to browse the internet using linux?
[04:20] <xangua> install security updates that your distro provides
[04:20] <B0073D> axizor: Disable scripts, images, plugins etc.
[04:21] <axizor> what about just using the operating system?
[04:21] <B0073D> or wget the page and read the HTML manially
[04:21] <B0073D> manually
[04:23] <B0073D> axizor: Could you be more specific?
[04:23] <thurstylark2> is there a way to get terminal to return the hex value for permissions of a given file?
[04:23] <axizor> Yes B0073D, sorry
[04:23] <daftykins> thurstylark2: permissions aren't in hex.
[04:23] <sudormrf> hey guys, I have a question about incron.  I would like to run a script after a file has been copied to the watch directory, I have an idea for the script, but I was wondering if someone could take a look
[04:24] <axizor> Just using the operating system without leaving traces in memory and other places
[04:24] <thurstylark2> daftykins that's right. It's octal, isn't it...
[04:24] <axizor> Just needs to be 100% closed
[04:24] <B0073D> Live CD
[04:24] <axizor> yeah
[04:24] <axizor> i was just typing "how about a live iso"
[04:24] <daftykins> yes
[04:24] <B0073D> Then restart / reset
[04:25] <axizor> thans
[04:25] <axizor> thanks*
[04:25] <daftykins> axizor: so what class is this homework for? :)
[04:25] <thurstylark2> in that case, how do I get the octal value for permissions of a given file or directory?
[04:25] <axizor> personal question, im not in school
[04:25] <B0073D> axizor: It depends on what you are trying to achieve really
[04:26] <axizor> B0073D: I'm thinking on a forensics standpoint
[04:26] <omnitrix> you have guys 14.04?
[04:26] <sudormrf> but I am curious about a filename operator that will give me a filename from just a variable
[04:26] <sudormrf> can anyone help?
[04:26] <B0073D> if you're talking about the machine itself and nowhere else then I'd say live CD
[04:26] <axizor> omnitrix, join /#ubuntu+1
[04:27] <Bad_Advice_Cat> /join #ubuntu+1
[04:27] <axizor> alright, thanks B0073D
[04:27] <B0073D> but then you'd need to also make sure your memory is rewritten somehow
[04:27] <sudormrf> so here is the incron entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7265610/
[04:27] <axizor> yes^
[04:27] <B0073D> You can sometimes get the contents of RAM even after a power down
[04:28] <mikeche1en> only after a very short time
[04:28] <Guest26045> hi
[04:28] <axizor> yeah b0073D, I know
[04:28] <omnitrix> ./join #iloveboxxy
[04:29] <B0073D> axizor: Apologies, just answering the question
[04:29] <sudormrf> and the script that it would run would be this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7265613/
[04:29] <axizor> No need to apology, I didn't mean it in the sense you were infering :)
[04:29] <sudormrf> so my question is on the second script, what can I use for the file name variable on line 7
[04:29] <axizor> Does linux touch unmounted drives at all?
[04:30] <B0073D> axizor: If you're worried about browsing the internet you also need to take other precautions eg VPN or TOR
[04:30] <sudormrf> anyone?
[04:30] <B0073D> axizor: Depends on the distro
[04:30] <B0073D> The answer SHOULD be no.
[04:30] <B0073D> But many will auto mount
[04:30] <axizor> yep, for some reason my inital question was about internet- just another thing on my mind lol
[04:30] <B0073D> Ah
[04:30] <Cheekio> daftykins, the bumblebee-project.org recommends the ubuntu-wiki guide to installing bumblebee, which caused conflicts.
[04:31] <Cheekio> just FYI, don't tell the next person to do what you told me.
[04:31] <daftykins> Cheekio: i've seen tonnes of people have it work fine, so i suspect something was wrong with your setup
[04:31] <sudormrf> is it $file?
[04:31] <sudormrf> anyone?!?!?
[04:31] <daftykins> Cheekio: also not every laptop is born the same
[04:31] <sudormrf> :D
[04:31] <daftykins> Cheekio: just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's not fine elsewhere
[04:31] <axizor> hey guys whats the best zero write nix utility
[04:32] <rww> axizor: dd if=/dev/zero of=wherever
[04:32] <Cheekio> You're absolutely right, I'm sure it would have worked it if was 2012
[04:32] <B0073D> You may need to do that several times depending on the medium
[04:32] <daftykins> Cheekio: what relevance does the year have to whether you're able to get something working or not?
[04:32] <Cheekio> Whether or not the advice is up to date
[04:32] <rww> Cheekio, daftykins: take the pissing contest to PM, please
[04:32] <axizor> thanks rww, that can be run in desktop? (assuming its not the OS drive)
[04:32] <rww> axizor: yes
[04:33] <axizor> ty
[04:33] <sudormrf> …
[04:33] <daftykins> Cheekio: anyway perhaps if you detailed what went wrong it could be resolved
[04:34] <daftykins> Cheekio: however as the very first thing i said was wait for 14.04 to try newer options it's probably not worth trying to resolve whatever you have installed right now
[04:34] <sudormrf> daftykins: any advice?
[04:34] <daftykins> sudormrf: i don't see me replying
[04:34] <Genitrust> soooo, i think i have a man-in-the-middle on this network. would someone like to verify this with me? ;x
[04:34] <sudormrf> lelleelelele
[04:35] <Cheekio> Daftykins, please stop nickpinging me.
[04:35] <daftykins> er what, i'm helping you
[04:35] <daftykins> fair enough, you do not want to be helped. i shall stop.
[04:35] <Cheekio> You're not helping. You were already warned to take it to PM if you had anything else to say to me.
[04:36] <rww> To be clear: I don't care if you're going to have a support conversation, just if you're going to have an argument.
[04:36] <daftykins> i really don't see any arguing going on
[04:36] <daftykins> what conversation are you guys reading 0o
[04:38] <ljsoftnet> wine doesnt enable direct rendering, how do i let it enable?
[04:39] <sudormrf> is there a built in “variable” in bash for $filename? or will I have to define it.
[04:40] <rww> sudormrf: what is $filename supposed to point to?
[04:40] <sudormrf> rww: I am trying to receive a push notification once a file has been copied by incron
[04:40] <sudormrf> so the push notification will say something to the effect of “$filename has been copied!"
[04:41] <sudormrf> $filename being the name of the file that was just copied
[04:41] <sudormrf> :)
[04:41]  * rww pulls the manpage for incron
[04:41] <sudormrf> :D
[04:41] <sudormrf> this is for my btsync setup
[04:42] <rww> sudormrf: change script.sh" in the incron code snippet to script.sh $#". then, change $filename in the curl thing to $1
[04:43] <rww> sudormrf: that should either work or almost work :P
[04:43] <sudormrf> heh.  let me do a quick pastebin to make sure I understand
[04:44] <ljsoftnet> wine doesnt enable direct rendering, how do i let it enable?
[04:45] <sudormrf> rww: like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7265642/
[04:46] <rww> sudormrf: yep
[04:46] <sudormrf> k let me give it a go
[04:46] <rww> sudormrf: basically, you pass the event filename as a parameter to the shell script, then read it in
[04:46] <sudormrf> rww: that sounds like what I was looking for :D.  fingers crossed :D
[04:48] <Genitrust> so eh....
[04:48] <Genitrust> http://imgur.com/gm9S8FB
[04:48] <Genitrust> Pic 1 is the machine 1, where i am looking to connect to machine 2. Pic 2 is machine 2, the host.
[04:49] <Genitrust> am i messing something up? or is there definitely a man-in-the-middle going on here?
[04:52] <daftykins> Genitrust: are you wireless to that other one?
[04:53] <daftykins> Genitrust: also there's only one image on that link
[04:53] <lawnewbie> morning everyone
[04:53] <lawnewbie> i want to pratice wotagei
[04:53] <lawnewbie> >.<
[04:54] <carlnunes> :-)
[04:54] <lawnewbie> hei carl :-D
[04:54] <carlnunes> Hello
[04:55] <rvdv> When is 14.04 ready for download? ... they said 17th ... here it is, but what time?
[04:55] <rww> rvdv: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[04:55] <lawnewbie> i dont know
[04:55] <carlnunes> My same question, beat me too, it. LOL!
[04:55] <lawnewbie> can i update my OS with terminal :D
[04:55] <lawnewbie> lol hahahha
[04:55] <rvdv> rww: that's a fast reply :-)
[04:56] <carlnunes> See you all in the party room also.
[04:56] <rww> rvdv: I have it on standby, since it's a common question today :)
[04:57] <rww> r<tab>whenout<tab> generated that message
[04:57] <rvdv> :-)
[04:59] <Genitrust> daftykins, i realized i had the wrong link (there's another link for both images), and i figured out the issue. i wasn't doing -l on the keys in /etc/ssh hehe
[04:59] <lawnewbie> i wanna pratice wotajul
[04:59] <lawnewbie> see you
[05:00] <delinquentme> if I install the current release of 14.04 ... will there be any additional updates made before the official release ... which would cause problems on my installation?
[05:01] <rww> ubottu: final
[05:03] <ljsoftnet> wine doesnt enable direct rendering, how do i let it enable?
[05:04] <daftykins> !wine
[05:04] <daftykins> ljsoftnet: try their channel ^
[05:05] <captine> Hi all.  Wanting some help with the built in backup tool.  Read some reviews on it at https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/deja-dup/ which make me nervous (I just moved 100% to ubuntu and my backups are done to a central smb share which then sync's to crashplan).  Is the build in tool considered sufficient or should i use something else?
[05:07] <aneesh_> at what time is trusty expected to be released?
[05:07] <rww> aneesh_: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[05:07] <aneesh_> Ok :)
[05:08] <kc9iid> it is the 17th
[05:08] <daftykins> not on the west coast of the US it isn't
[05:09] <kc9iid> and many other places too.  I said that because of the snide remarks that some obvious bots and other have been making on the channel the last few weeks.
[05:10] <kc9iid> a bit less than helpful to say the least
[05:10] <daftykins> i can't tell whether i just wasn't in here for a last release or whether people are getting worse at patience ;)
[05:11] <b13> maybe both?
[05:12] <daftykins> well i wouldn't be able to tell they were getting worse if i had no reference
[05:12] <kc9iid> I've noticed the last few months that attitudes in here have gotten worse, like I said, "Less than helpful to say the least".  In fact it has gotten a rather bad reputation for just that.
[05:13] <daftykins> kc9iid: from those seeking help or those providing it?
[05:14] <jonascj> 14.04 at what time in which timezone today?
[05:14] <rww> jonascj: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[05:14] <kc9iid> seems to be from a bot or two, and some others who I think monitor the channel to provide help/answer questions. That's why I usually just monitor and rarely speak up in here.
[05:15] <aneesh_> lubuntu says 14.04 released
[05:15] <kc9iid> see what I mean?
[05:15] <aneesh_> but redirects to nothing
[05:15] <rww> kc9iid: I'm not a bot.
[05:15] <jonascj> rww: okay, I just thought they would set the "release date" after they had the product finished... not drag it out like game companies :)
[05:16] <rww> jonascj: They're not dragging it out. The release process doesn't take a set amount of time, so it's not a set release time.
[05:16] <daftykins> aneesh_: it must not be ready yet then!
[05:17] <punter> What time will 14.04 be released?
[05:17] <aneesh_> ok daftykins
[05:18] <jonascj> rww: "release process" = distrubtion of the new release? That I would agree could take a variable amount of time: "we will start 17th 10:00 CEST, but it might take a few days for the ISO's to hit every corner of the internet". But getting the release ready should be "done" at some point, leaving only distribution
[05:18] <rww> jonascj: nope. final testing and QA, seeding to the download mirrors, etc.
[05:18] <rww> jonascj: once all that's done, they hit the big button and it's released
[05:18] <rww> punter: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[05:18] <punter> thanks
[05:18] <rww> you're welcome :)
[05:20] <jonascj> rww: okay
[05:22] <ljsoftnet> wine doesnt enable direct rendering, how do i let it enable?
[05:23] <sudormrf> rww: it’s not calling the script, but that is probably something to do with incron.  I will look at it more tomorrow.
[05:23] <sudormrf> thanks
[05:24] <daftykins> ljsoftnet: i told you where to ask
[05:36] <demha> when trying to run VMWARE Player in a fresh install of ubunto 12.04 64bit, I get kernel headers for generic 3.11 .0-15 where not found. Though kernel header were installed as directed. kernels are there in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.11-015  Any ideas why its not working?
[05:41] <Gambit-> hoy folks
[05:41] <aeon-ltd> ahoy hoy
[05:42] <jmallory75> does anyone know what time 14.04 rolls out?
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> today
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> sometime
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> no specifics, just target dates
[05:42] <jmallory75> ugh...an eternity of waiting
[05:44] <Gambit-> jmallory75, I wanted to do some playing around with docker tonight too, but sounds like by the time I got the iso downloaded...
[05:45] <aeon-ltd> jmallory75: you seriously have nothing else to do?
[05:45] <jmallory75> I've never been so excited about a release
[05:45] <aeon-ltd> really?
[05:46] <jmallory75> I've been with Ubuntu since 8.04
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> heh i was on from 7 to 9/10 then i bailed
[05:47] <albus_dumbledore> jmallory75: me too
[05:47] <jmallory75> right on albus
[05:48] <albus_dumbledore> :)
[05:49] <albus_dumbledore> i hate adobe for letting firefox down :(
[05:49] <albus_dumbledore> *linux
[05:50] <mikeche1en> huh?
[05:50] <albus_dumbledore> adobe stopped developing flash player for linux
[05:51] <jmallory75> I prefer HTML5
[05:51] <mikeche1en> oh yeah that is annoying
[05:51] <mikeche1en> proprietary ftl :(
[05:51] <albus_dumbledore> hmm.... i think google is behind it :(
[05:51] <mikeche1en> lol i doubt it
[05:52] <mikeche1en> google tends to be relatively pro linux
[05:52] <mikeche1en> considering chromebook and android are both based on it
[05:52] <albus_dumbledore> no to promote chrome
[05:52] <rufphus> Except when it comes to Drive on Linux.
[05:52] <albus_dumbledore> becoz chrome has its own fp
[05:52] <jmallory75> you chrome promoter :)
[05:52] <albus_dumbledore> whereas mozilla doesnt
[05:52] <mikeche1en> rufphus: yeah the splintering of the google dev teams is super annoying
[05:53] <mikeche1en> albus_dumbledore: i think adobe just doesnt want to put the dev work in for such a small customer group
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> waiit no flash updates on linux since when?
[05:53] <albus_dumbledore> :O
[05:54] <mikeche1en> version 11?
[05:54] <albus_dumbledore> yeah
[05:54] <AndChat|110000> Hi
[05:54] <jmallory75> Hi AndChat
[05:55] <rufphus> mikeche1en: i can understand why they didn't have support for it at the beginning...spend more time developing for the wider audience...but to still not support it seems silly.
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> ok, google still bakes it into chrome though
[05:55] <jmallory75> I prefer Chrome over Chromium anyways
[05:55] <rufphus> Sorry, just catching up on what I missed. Flash is teh worst!
[05:56] <dotDeb> rufphus troo dat
[05:56] <mikeche1en> rufphus: it seems like that was an overall trend for them, they used to support a bunch of platforms like ios and android, then later dropped support for everything except the largest platforms
[05:56] <albus_dumbledore> aeon-ltd: so google will profit from it since people will switch from mozilla to chrome
[05:56] <mikeche1en> jmallory75: how come?
[05:56] <jmallory75> mikeche1en: I like the pretty icon
[05:56] <mikeche1en> good point
[05:57] <dotDeb> wow
[05:57] <rufphus> mikeche1en fiscally makes sense from their POV. sucks for the user who likes to use something out of the ordinary.
[05:57] <dotDeb> that's like the worst reason ever
[05:57] <dotDeb> :P
[05:57] <jmallory75> lol
[05:57] <dotDeb> you could just modify the icon anyways
[05:57] <dotDeb> and change the name
[05:57] <jmallory75> true
[05:57] <albus_dumbledore> :P
[05:58] <mikeche1en> rufphus: yeah that a fundamental problem with proprietary software though, nobody can maintain it except in-house devs
[05:58] <rufphus> mikeche1en: aye
[05:58] <g00fy> PARTY  (〜￣▽￣)〜
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> albus_dumbledore: google profits if you use firefox too, default search engine. only difference is now there is definitely more data to mine with chrome
[05:58] <albus_dumbledore> yeah
[05:58] <dotDeb> aeon-ltd assuming we don't change it
[05:58] <rufphus> aeon-ltd: stop scaring me (he said from his chromebook :P)
[05:59] <dotDeb> rufphus LOL
[05:59] <albus_dumbledore> g00fy: huh?
[05:59] <Keening_Product> I recently switched to Fedora MATE and Debian, but 'grats to the contributors to this release on what looks like a solid step back in the direction of functionality.
[05:59] <aeon-ltd> dotDeb: most people don't
[05:59] <dotDeb> aeon-ltd ik, you just said google still profits if we use firefox
[06:00] <dotDeb> aeon-ltd it's just not true in all cases
[06:00] <jmallory75> I like google because it reads my mind
[06:00] <g00fy> ubuntu told me on Facebook to join here, just to have a release party for version 14.04
[06:00] <g00fy> ;-)
[06:00] <dotDeb> g00fy yup
[06:00] <albus_dumbledore> google will get more personal data if we use chrome
[06:00] <rufphus> g00fy: there's a party?! hoooraaaay
[06:00] <jmallory75> I'm here for the party too
[06:00] <g00fy> sure!!  :D
[06:00] <albus_dumbledore> rufphus: :P
[06:00] <rufphus> so is chrome basically a key logger :P
[06:00] <dotDeb> |_<>__<>_|
[06:01] <albus_dumbledore> kind of
[06:01] <rufphus> i mean in an abstract kind of way albus_dumbledore
[06:01] <rufphus> i can totally see it.
[06:01] <albus_dumbledore> :D
[06:01] <lawnewbie> lol
[06:02] <rufphus> for the time being i'm willing to sacrifice that level of privacy for the ease of use i get using my chromebook
[06:02] <jmallory75> rufphus: I agree
[06:02] <albus_dumbledore> u using chromebook?
[06:02] <johefernan> TROOLO
[06:02] <albus_dumbledore> great! :D
[06:02] <rufphus> yeah. chromebook pixel from last years I/O
[06:03] <dotDeb> more like chromefewsheetsofpaper
[06:03] <johefernan> I'm just installing chrome os
[06:03] <johefernan> VirtualBox
[06:03] <Keening_Product> rufphus: I recently switched to Fedora MATE and Debian, but 'grats to the contributors to this release on what looks like a solid step back in the direction of functionality.
[06:03] <johefernan> :D
[06:03] <Keening_Product> whoops
[06:03] <Keening_Product> sorry rufphus
[06:03] <Keening_Product> seems hexchat is being buggy today
[06:03] <rufphus> Keening_Product: no worries
[06:03] <jmallory75> I tried MATE, but couldn't get into it
[06:04] <albus_dumbledore> anybody used zorin? :P
[06:04] <rufphus> dotDeb: not sure i follow your jab at chromeos. maybe a shot at its limited functionality. sorry, not trying to be rude. just trying to understand where you're coming from.
[06:04] <Keening_Product> rufphus, what I meant to do was ask why you don't just buy a cheap netbook and install a decent linux distro? It's not a LOT of effort.
[06:04] <daftykins> !offtopic
[06:04] <daftykins> you're all off topic, please join the above channel
[06:05] <dotDeb> rufphus yea just a cheap shot at netbooks
[06:05] <dotDeb> daftykins yessir.
[06:05] <daftykins> albus_dumbledore: zorin is not supported here so no discussion please.
[06:05] <Keening_Product> Oh right, the Ubuntu FB page said to join in here to celebrate 14.04's release.
[06:05] <albus_dumbledore> :P
[06:05] <dotDeb> keening_product mhmmmmmmm
[06:05] <rufphus> #join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:05] <rww> Keening_Product: oh dear. #ubuntu-release-party would be better for that :D
[06:05] <jmallory75> we're off topic....heavens noooooooooo
[06:06] <btroot> Congrats on release !!! Cheers !!!!
[06:06] <dotDeb> offtopic = collapse of the world
[06:06] <jmallory75> lol @ dotDeb
[06:07] <beakr> Hats off to the Ubuntu developers on the new release. UNIX 4 Life. \o/
[06:09] <jmallory75> is it ready yet???
[06:10] <rww> jmallory75: nope, but you can come party anyway in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like :)
[06:10] <jmallory75> I'm going to the party
[06:11] <MrSwed3n> anyone that can join #ubuntu-release-party ?
[06:12] <rww> MrSwed3n: you can't?
[06:12] <rww> should be able to
[06:15] <DO9XE> I heard there is a release party in here? :)
[06:15] <ikonia> DO9XE: you heard wrong, its #ubuntu-release-party
[06:15] <DO9XE> damn :D
[06:15] <DO9XE> but thanks :)
[06:17] <MrSwed3n> rww: i´m in now :)
[06:17] <rww> MrSwed3n: yay :)
[06:18] <stunts513> i was trying to compile a specific version of llvm and clang along with it, and i'm wondering if there were any special paramters i needed outside of what i did for clang to compile and work with ubuntu? as is it does not respond to commands
[06:19] <MannerMan> yey 14.04 today!
[06:19] <ikonia> stunts513: should be nothing specific, it's just a linux distro like any other
[06:20] <incon> time for the release?
[06:20] <ikonia> incon: no, or there would be an annoucment
[06:20] <stunts513> ah well my clang doesnt do anything, no matter what you do it just exits without any text, doesnt respond to paramters or anything
[06:20] <rww> incon: you can party with us in #ubuntu-release-party in the meantime, if you'd like :)
[06:21] <stunts513> normally i would just install this from the repos but i'm testing out a arm decompiler to try to get a arm binary into c code
[06:21] <stunts513> and it calls for specific revisions of llvm and clang
[06:21] <ikonia> stunts513: it's your build, you'll need to fix it
[06:21] <lawnewbie> yeah ofcourse
[06:21] <lawnewbie> :))
[06:25] <TinCan_Assassin> Question: Is this upgrade recommended for machines with a Pentium M CPU?
[06:25] <ikonia> TinCan_Assassin: up to you
[06:26] <Artemis3> careful TinCan_Assassin some Pentium M dont have PXE
[06:26] <TinCan_Assassin> What is PXE?
[06:26] <daftykins> do you maybe mean PAE?
[06:26] <Artemis3> sorry PAE
[06:26] <rww> they mean PAE, and it's a CPU thing required by Ubuntu
[06:27] <TinCan_Assassin> Ok, that I grok
[06:27] <rww> TinCan_Assassin: which Ubuntu are you using right now?
[06:27] <rww> 12.04, 13.10, something else?
[06:27] <TinCan_Assassin> 12.04 LTS
[06:27] <rww> I think you'll be fine upgrading, then.
[06:27] <TinCan_Assassin> Much obliged, thanks.
[06:27] <snufft> stupid question, but does Ubuntu use bash or dash? I'm running 13.10 and a script i wrote is failing on another user's computer (Fedora I think)
[06:28] <rww> snufft: /bin/sh is aliased to dash. user shells default to bash
[06:28] <snufft> rww, if i run bash myscriptname.sh does that force it to run under bash?
[06:29] <snufft> (sorry, i'm noob as far as bash goes)
[06:29] <rww> snufft: is the first line of the shell script #!/bin/sh
[06:29] <rww> if so, it's gonna run under dash regardless, I think
[06:29] <rww> if it needs to be bash, change the sh to bash
[06:29] <snufft> rww, no worries. thanks heaps :)
[06:29] <Guest98338> hello
[06:30] <Guest98338> where can i d/l 14.04 final?
[06:30] <rww> Guest98338: you can't, because it's not done yet
[06:30] <locodir-user-Ian> not done yet? hurry up, you've had ages
[06:31] <TinCan_Assassin> They're still polishing the brass on the electrons. Do you know how hard it is to get an electron to hold still for that?
[06:31] <rww> locodir-user-Ian: can't rush QA :)
[06:31] <rww> locodir-user-Ian: while you're waiting, feel free to /join #ubuntu-release-party, though :)
[06:31] <Artemis3> its getting mirrored, but pretty much done. Just check ubuntu.com later
[06:32] <locodir-user-Ian> what's the situation with release downloads? Will there be a huge download spike whereby nobody gets anything fast enough, or are those days gone what with CDNs now.
[06:32] <carlnunes> We over here at the release party, super fun.
[06:33] <Artemis3> they replicate the isos before official announce to mitigate that, that is occurring now.
[06:33] <rww> locodir-user-Ian: We encourage people to use torrents these days, it helps that a lot. But it'll be on a bunch of mirrors, which will probably mostly fall over.
[06:33] <locodir-user-Ian> ah, good to know.
[06:34] <rww> which is one reason the upgrade notifications for new versions of Ubuntu through Update Manager don't go out on release day :D
[06:34] <locodir-user-Ian> Oh I see, so letting the existing install pick it up will have a delay until everything's comfy
[06:35] <markosejic> good morning
[06:37] <TinCan_Assassin> What's that release party channel again?
[06:37] <ikonia> #ubuntu-release-party
[06:37] <TinCan_Assassin> Thanks
[06:39] <coolty> Touhou radio anyone? http://vertvps.com:8000/listen.ogg.m3u
[06:39] <bobfox> guys, the daily images for latest ISO for April 17 are now available.
[06:39] <ikonia> bobfox: so ?
[06:40] <locodir-user-Ian> I wonder if there's a way of selecting to sync the desired ISO through Ubuntu One — a final act.
[06:40] <bobfox> so you can get it now.
[06:40] <ikonia> bobfox: so no you can't, those are daily builds.
[06:40] <ikonia> bobfox: you need the official release image
[06:41] <bobfox> wouldn't the daily build for today be the same?
[06:41] <ikonia> no
[06:41] <rww> bobfox: not if there are bugs in it
[06:41] <ikonia> bobfox: so perhaps just wait for the offical release
[06:41] <ikonia> like everyones else rather than trying to get ahead
[06:41] <PotatoHead007> Heya peeps :D
[06:42] <locodir-user-Ian> would today's build be a very very very early alpha of 14:10?
[06:42] <rww> locodir-user-Ian: nope
[06:42] <bobfox> i would actually be curious to see the difference between the two images. i would be surprised if there was any difference at all.
[06:42] <PotatoHead007> Can someone tell me if 14.04 is ready to download, and if so, where?
[06:42] <rww> PotatoHead007: it's not yet, still doing final QA and such
[06:42] <PotatoHead007> aw  ok thanks :)
[06:43] <Mikerhinos> what source I have to uncheck to have only stable updates after 14.04 upgrade ? proposed ? (I have it all checked right now)
[06:44] <PotatoHead007> But it should be available today right?
[06:44] <ikonia> PotatoHead007: sometime in the 17th
[06:44] <ikonia> (or 18th depending on your time zone)
[06:44] <PotatoHead007> GMT +2 :) thanks
[06:44] <bobfox> what time zone is official release?
[06:45] <ikonia> bobfox: there is no set time
[06:45] <ikonia> as you've just seen me say "sometime on the 17th"
[06:45] <bobfox> so how do they claim the 17th if there is no official timezone to dedicate to the 17th?
[06:45] <ikonia> bobfox: who cares, just wait for the release
[06:45] <bobfox> i care...
[06:45] <MannerMan> Will there be DVD's of 14.04 available to buy from Canonical?
[06:45] <ikonia> bobfox: then email canonical
[06:46] <rww> MannerMan: I expect so, yes
[06:46] <PotatoHead007> I am really exited :P Been waiting for it since 12.04 LTS
[06:46] <Mikerhinos> I think that it's PST, and if it's the case, it's still wednesday 16th lol
[06:46] <MannerMan> rww: Nice :)
[06:46] <daftykins> i'm off now, to ikonia and rww - i wish you the strength to endure the coming hours of this non-stop tirade of impatience
[06:46] <daftykins> \o
[06:46] <bobfox> i have. and i get ignored. completely.
[06:46] <rww> bobfox: come care in #ubuntu-release-party then, that's where all the excitement is :)
[06:46] <ikonia> bobfox: unlucky
[06:46] <bobfox> rww: i'm in there already.
[06:46] <rww> bobfox: good, now start ignoring this place, it's boring :D
[06:47] <bobfox> rww: lol
[06:47] <Hxxx> is ubuntu 12.04 lts safe to use as webserver? even if for some reason PHP is 5.3? any info on that?
[06:47] <ikonia> Hxxx: it's used in production so yes it's "safe"
[06:48] <bobfox> ikonia: btw, to clarify; it's anticipation, not impatience.
[06:48] <ikonia> Hxxx: however only safe as the people who contain it
[06:48] <rww> Hxxx: Yep! Ubuntu backports security fixes to the version in 12.04's repositories, instead of upgrading to new major versions.
[06:48] <ikonia> bobfox:  I didn't say anything
[06:48] <ikonia> Hxxx: maintain it is the right word.
[06:48] <rww> Hxxx: so it looks out of date, but it's security patched
[06:48] <bobfox> Hxxx: my critical server runs 12.04. it performs well. ;-)
[06:48] <bobfox> ikonia: i know. just before you did.
[06:49] <Hxxx> ikonia,rww, uhm so that means that even if the version let say 5.3.13 is the version of php if im not wrong, are you guys saying it still has all the patches of the newest 5.3 as of today?
[06:50] <konobi> howdy all
[06:50] <bobfox> konobi: hey.
[06:50] <rww> Hxxx: security patches, yep. See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ for security update notices, I think there's a relatively recent PHP one
[06:50] <bobfox> rww: i can confirm 12.04 did recently get a php update.
[06:52] <konobi> I'm running into an issue where when I add crashkernel=128M to the grub bootline for my saucy 3.11.0-18 kernel, it just hangs after grub (hardware cursor flahing)
[06:52] <Hxxx> rww, so the package number of ubuntu is not the same as for example the debian one.
[06:52] <Hxxx> let say php 5.3.10 in both
[06:52] <Hxxx> i mean the content****
[06:53] <rww> Hxxx: Debian have the same sort of situation as us for security updates for released version. But yeah, usually there are different versions.
[06:53] <Didou> link dowload 14.04 ?
[06:53] <in_deep_thought> are there any alarm clock apps on ubuntu that keep your computer from going to sleep? or wake it up? There are 10000s of alarm clock apps I see but when I set them my computer just falls asleep so it doesn't matter if the app is even there
[06:53] <rww> Didou: it isn't out yet
[06:53] <ikonia> Didou: it's not released yet
[06:53] <ikonia> Didou: try joining #ubuntu-release-party
[06:53] <Didou> ok
[06:53] <antonio_> Hey folks
[06:54] <lagbox> tell your computer to not go to sleep
[06:54] <antonio_> How can I find the location of an executable?
[06:54] <rww> antonio_: whereis programnamehere
[06:54] <lagbox> which
[06:55] <konobi> is there a better channel to get this sort of help with? it's somewhat involved
[06:55] <ikonia> konobi: what happens if you lower the value
[06:56] <ikonia> konobi: or raise it
[06:56] <ikonia> konobi: is it the parameter in general, or the value
[06:56] <antonio_> thanks
[06:57] <konobi> ikonia: just the parameter in general it seems
[06:58] <ikonia> konobi: have you got things like kdump installed ?
[06:58] <boynux> Hi
[06:59] <ruby_on_tails> for some reason or another I keep formatting my system or change my computer, is there a way to keep a master installer system with the set of apps I use so that for every new setup I simply trigger it and all my apps with preset configs get installed?
[06:59] <boynux> What time 14.04 will be available?
[06:59] <ikonia> boynux: thre is no set time
[06:59] <rww> boynux: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[06:59] <bazhang> no one knows
[06:59] <boynux> rww, thanks
[06:59] <konobi> ikonia: yes, it's all there in place, it's just when attempting to add the crashkernel parameter to the system kernel boot line
[07:00] <ikonia> konobi: try setting it to "auto" for a test
[07:01] <AjitS> ubuntu 14.04 :)
[07:02] <konobi> ikonia: that will complain about the format
[07:02] <ikonia> konobi: what do you mean ?
[07:03] <konobi> infact the default that is set doesn't work either... it'll say "please use format X@Y"
[07:03] <ikonia> konobi: so crashkernel=auto doesn't work for you
[07:03] <Kartagis> okay, I have an issue. a while ago, I had a problem with my video not displaying full screen on TV over HDMI cable. after long efforts and with ActionParsnip's help, I was able to change resolution. now I have a different problem. when I plug in the HDMI cable, I absolutely get NO output. how can I solve that?
[07:03] <ikonia> it complains that the format is wrong ?
[07:04] <konobi> ikonia: correct
[07:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: probably just not detecting it, manually set/enable it
[07:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: (xrandr for example)
[07:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: that's odd, it works for me
[07:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: oops sorry that was for konobi
[07:04] <ikonia> konobi: most odd
[07:04] <chofoteddy> Estoy en espera del lanzamiento xD 14.04 LTS
[07:04] <Kartagis> ikonia: how can I revert it back to its own resolution?
[07:04] <ikonia> konobi: would I be safe to guess you are following this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[07:04] <konobi> yeah, has me puzzled too
[07:05] <Kartagis> !es | chofoteddy
[07:05] <konobi> ikonia: yup and the full kdump.txt too
[07:05] <ikonia> Kartagis: revert it back ? you just said it's you're getting no output
[07:05] <ikonia> konobi: that's really odd
[07:05] <ikonia> konobi: it normally behaves fine....
[07:06] <ikonia> konobi: I'm assuming this is a physical host, nothing virtual
[07:06] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes I did, I thought maybe it was because of high res?
[07:06] <chofoteddy> Thanks :)
[07:06] <SMWim> Hi
[07:06] <konobi> ikonia: yes, i believe so
[07:06] <ekiwok> when 14.04 comes out?
[07:06] <SMWim> When does the new ubuntu come out?
[07:06] <rww> ekiwok: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[07:06] <ikonia> konobi: what does uname -a show (lets look at the basics)
[07:06] <rww> SMWim: ^
[07:07] <SMWim> is there free drinks in the party?
[07:07] <konobi> Linux build-ramen3 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:13:28 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:07] <rww> SMWim: sure, if you bring your imagination :D
[07:07] <ekiwok> rww, ok I'm joining !
[07:07] <ikonia> konobi: ok, so all standard stuff,
[07:07] <konobi> yup
[07:08] <ikonia> konobi: never seen that behaviour outside of a xen guest
[07:08] <konobi> oh yeah, very my a physical host... i'm using ipmi (duh)
[07:09] <konobi> *much
[07:09] <ikonia> konobi: boot the box without it in place, and look in /proc/cmdline - does it enable crashdump with the default values if you do nothing at boot time
[07:09] <antonio_> Hey folks...
[07:09] <antonio_> So I just got a Smart Tv..and I'm trying to stream movies to it.  I have minidlna installed.  How do I use this?
[07:10] <SMWim> Is there a live video showing the official countdown?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: damn you still here from yesterday?
[07:11] <antonio_> aeon-ltd: I didn't really mess with it yesterday..I was exhausted
[07:11] <konobi> ikonia: it's not in there currently
[07:11] <ikonia> konobi: so if you boot without the craskkernel parameter, the kernel doesn't configure/enable anything by default,
[07:11] <ikonia> (just to confirm)
[07:11] <konobi> and  /sys/kernel/kexec_* are all 0
[07:12] <ikonia> konobi: ok, so expected behaviour then
[07:12] <ikonia> konobi: this REALLY shouldn't matter, but use the example entry on this page for your boot line https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[07:12] <ikonia> konobi: see if it gives a format error, or just fails to boot
[07:12] <BlueEagle> antonio_: You configure it, and connect to it I guess.
[07:14] <BlueEagle> antonio_: There is an article about it on ArchWiki which seems ok: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MiniDLNA
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> BlueEagle: i dont hink ubuntu uses a daemon system though
[07:15] <n4uah> hey anyone working at canonical?
[07:16] <rww> n4uah: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Non-Canonical folks tend to be good at that too :)
[07:17] <n4uah> yep i know
[07:17] <n4uah> but something to do with it..
[07:17] <n4uah> :)
[07:17] <ikonia> n4uah: just ask your question
[07:17] <ikonia> if someone can help they will
[07:18] <masoud92m> 1
[07:18] <konobi> ikonia: roger... rebooting now
[07:18] <n4uah> nah its about the next version..
[07:18] <n4uah> ;)
[07:19] <rww> let's see... no, it isn't out yet, it'll be out when it's ready
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> n4uah: there is a +1 channel you know?
[07:19] <rww> voila, I am excellent emulator of a Canonical employee :D
[07:20] <konobi> ikonia: ah... now i'm just getting a flashing hardware cursor
 which one?
[07:20] <calzifer> hi, how can i remove/change the unity keyboard shortcuts super+[1-9] ? ubuntu 14.04
[07:20] <rww> n4uah: #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <ikonia> konobi: so odd
[07:21] <konobi> ikonia: i also have 'test nomodeset' tacked on the end too
[07:22] <ikonia> konobi: dump that, deal with one thing at a time
[07:23] <n4uah> rww: which network?
[07:23] <ht3k> How much longer until 14.04 is released?
[07:23] <rww> ht3k: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[07:23] <rww> n4uah: this one
[07:24] <n4uah> ohh k..
[07:24] <chadwin> yes I was aking my self the same question.....I NEDD 14.04.....and I need it NOW...lol
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> in brief what is different?
[07:24] <ht3k> I know that feel D:
[07:24] <konobi> mkay... reordered things a little and now have Booting a command list... then the flashing cursor
[07:24] <n4uah> maybe it will release today.
[07:24] <n4uah> 14.04
[07:24] <ht3k> Well today is the 17th, it's just a matter of when today X_X
[07:25] <konobi> ikonia: text/nomodereset aren't at issue... have tested that already
[07:25] <antonio_> blueeagle: do you know of a dlna program with a gui?
[07:25] <konobi> xbmc?
[07:27] <BlueEagle> antonio_: I do not. I use Plex media server for my streaming requirements.
[07:27] <konobi> ikonia: it also seems as if the kernel isn't getting loaded properly or that the start address pointer just becomes wrong
[07:27] <ikonia> konobi: can you expand on that (is this a good non-parameter enabled boot you're referencing)
[07:29] <Abhishek_> how many hours to 14.04?
[07:29] <konobi> so the only change is the crashkernel=..., which obviously then sets some memory aside... so it seems like something about that reservation affects the normal boot sequence (ah... bootloaders...)
[07:30] <ikonia> konobi: I'm going to need to think/research this a bit as I've never seen this behaviour
[07:31] <rww> Abhishek_: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[07:31] <ikonia> konobi: while I see what you're saying about memory not being allocated, I'd then expect something more than a "flashing cursor"
[07:31] <Abhishek_> rww : :)
[07:31] <konobi> yeah... me too...
[07:31] <ikonia> konobi: the flashing kernel is normally "can't get anywhere" where as the situation you describe I'd expect an error or warning
[07:32] <ikonia> konobi: eg: on my test machine here if I set the crashmemory to 8G - which is more ram than I have, it boots, warns me that the addresses are out of range and crash dump will be disabled
[07:33] <Mikerhinos> chromium won't auto connect to my gmail profile on app launch...I have to manually connect each time, pretty annoying (and pepperflash often freezes it). Was working perfectly yesterday :s
[07:33] <konobi> ikonia: yeah, i had seen similar-ish stuff when i was messing with ipxe
[07:33] <n4uah> use chrome..
[07:33] <ikonia> konobi: that's why the memory not being allocated suggestion doesn't sit well with me, but I get your logic
[07:34] <john1999> when will Ubuntu 14.04 be released?
[07:34] <rww> john1999: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[07:34] <ikonia> john1999: some point in the next 24 hours
[07:35] <chaos7theory> They should just set the bot to automatically reply
[07:35] <john1999> ok ikonia
[07:35] <njhcamp> lets hope its sooner than later
[07:35] <konobi> ikonia: and you're going against the same kernel version?
[07:35] <Zinbabwa> h3ll o
[07:36] <ikonia> konobi: not on the test machine no,
[07:37] <Zinbabwa> what version of ubuntu client is stable these days?
[07:39] <j_f-f> Hi, does U1 not shutdown? I can sign up a new accout
[07:40] <ikonia> it's shutdown
[07:42] <j_f-f> ikonia: Thanks
[07:48] <konobi> ikonia: should be the same under vt-x
[07:49] <ekiwok_> what is the name of next release ubuntu party room?
[07:49] <rww> ekiwok_: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:50] <blood_moon> is there anyone still use ubuntu?
[07:50] <lagbox> nope
[07:50] <DJones> blood_moon: Yes, lots of people
[07:51]  * salsero does
[07:52] <TrySdD> when is ubuntu going to be released?
[07:52] <rww> TrySdD: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[07:54] <electricprism> Isn't there supposed to be a release today or something?
[07:54] <rww> electricprism: yep!
[07:54] <DJones> Yes, but later in the day
[07:54] <electricprism> rww: i see, its 1am in california, @djones - like 12 hours?
[07:54] <electricprism> or 24?
[07:54] <rww> electricprism: < 12, I'd guess
[07:54] <electricprism> I couldn't find news about it anywhere really
[07:55] <electricprism> cool thx
[07:55] <rww> it's very much not set in stone, though
[07:56] <Svet_Roid> It is set in stone like cheese is set on pizza
[07:56] <Svet_Roid> Very carefully
[07:58] <quryt> hello all
[07:58] <yoav_> hi
[07:59] <yoav_> is there a release hour for 14.04?
[07:59] <rww> yoav_: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[08:04] <AhmadRR> Guys , 14.04 still using unity?
[08:04] <rww> AhmadRR: yes
[08:06] <DJones> AhmadRR: Default ubuntu is, but obviously, K/X/Lubuntu all user different desktops so you still have the choice
[08:06] <AhmadRR> 14.04 havent released yet?
[08:06] <rww> AhmadRR: correct
[08:07] <llutz> oh "is-it-out-now" day again...
[08:07] <rww> yep!
[08:07] <rww> i have a /completion and everything
[08:07] <sweb> 14.04 stable not released yet
[08:07] <llutz> autoresponder :)
[08:07] <AhmadRR> Hmmmm
[08:07] <antonio_>  Hey folks...so I'm guessing that my new smart T.V. doesn't have dlna support.  Does anyone know if there is a way to update firmware...or if there is another way to stream stuff from my laptop to a smart tv?
[08:07] <sweb> ?
[08:08] <AhmadRR> 3PM here , i wondered why ubuntu havent released the stable.
[08:09] <DJones> antonio_: You'd need to check with the manufacturer about specifics for your tv, you could connect a cable and use something like XBMC as a media manager
[08:09] <AhmadRR> At what hour btw usually this thing released?
[08:09] <rww> AhmadRR: there isn't a set hour
[08:09] <antonio_> Djones: what kind of cable?
[08:09] <rww> AhmadRR: it'll be out when it's ready
[08:09] <Ben64> AhmadRR: check back in 24 hours
[08:09] <AhmadRR> Ok bro
[08:10] <DJones> antonio_: That'll depend on your computer & tv, hdmi is probably best, but again depends on your hardware & tv
[08:10] <john1999> test
[08:10] <ChipsUbuntu> alright guys, I need a hand
[08:10] <Ben64> ubuntubot?
[08:10] <ChipsUbuntu> like big time
[08:10] <rww> Ben64: someone's being silly
[08:11] <jpentland> !botsnack
[08:11] <PTBD> hello. how does it ubuntu normally take to get software updates? for example. if a new kernel is released, how long does it take that it will be installed to the user?
[08:11] <AhmadRR> PTBD : Depends on your internet connection maybe?
[08:11] <PTBD> no.
[08:12] <PTBD> I mean when do the devs make it available to update is what I mean
[08:12] <k1l_> PTBD: depends if its a security issue and how fast your mirror is synced
[08:13] <ChipsUbuntu> I'm on the "test drive" version of ubuntu, but I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed in dual-boot alongside Win7(32 bit). My problem is that in the "test version", my Broadcom BCM4312 wifi "receiver" works, but in the actual installed 12.10 it doesn't. Help!
[08:14] <PTBD> k1l_, let's say it is not an security issue. will it be released at all or do they stay with the already used version.
[08:14] <Ben64> ChipsUbuntu: 12.10 is set to lose support tomorrow. you should upgrade to 14.04
[08:15] <ChipsUbuntu> yikes. Thanks ben64. How do you do that? (I just installed that version, uh, like, 4 hours)
[08:15] <jelly> Ben64: can one skip releases for ubuntu upgrades or will that be a three step?
[08:15] <abito> hello!
[08:15] <ChipsUbuntu> *ago
[08:15] <rww> jelly: only for LTS to LTS, so it'd be multiple steps
[08:15] <Ben64> ChipsUbuntu: you just installed 12.10? its a fairly old release... came out october 2012. are you sure you didn't mean 13.10?
[08:16] <jelly> ChipsUbuntu: if you just installed it, you may as well give that up and use 14.04 when it gets releases today
[08:16] <creature> How do I stop Bluetooth from being enabled on my laptop whenever I turn it on or resume from suspend?
[08:16] <ChipsUbuntu> Ben64, absolutely 100% positive about the 12.10
[08:16] <k1l_> PTBD: in general, ubuntu does only patch the versions and not upgrade the versions in one ubuntu release
[08:16] <ChipsUbuntu> alright. Now. For the next problem. How do you uninstall an OS?
[08:16] <PTBD> k1l_, I see. thanks
[08:16] <ChipsUbuntu> (or I could just restore my backup)
[08:17] <k1l_> PTBD: if you look at heartbleed the fix was uploaded to the servers on 7th april, so the security fixes are quite fast.
[08:18] <Ben64> ChipsUbuntu: if you wanted to go back to windows only, you'd need to have windows re-write the mbr, and then delete the ubuntu partition(s), if you wanted to install 14.04, you can format and install where 12.10 currently resides
[08:18] <PTBD> k1l_, is it the same for firefox for example. if firefox 29 is realesd next week will they update it or only if there are security flaws?
[08:18] <KemarinAkuDatang> Is there any good cloud storage that worked well with ubuntu? Besides GDrive
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !cloud|KemarinAkuDatang
[08:19] <KemarinAkuDatang> Is it free?
[08:19] <ChipsUbuntu> Ben64, oh god. I don't have the windows CD with me.
[08:19]  * ChipsUbuntu is not in a pretty position
[08:19] <k1l_> PTBD: there are some exceptions. firefox is one exception. usually some days afterwards there will be the new version (the small delay is because its tested to run with all ubuntu stuff)
[08:19] <cfhowlett> KemarinAkuDatang look at the site for details
[08:20] <ChipsUbuntu> (to re-write the mbr)
[08:20]  * timmoe can't await the 14.04 release .__.
[08:20] <PTBD> k1l_, thank you.
[08:20] <k1l_> !party | timmoe
[08:20] <Ben64> ChipsUbuntu: probably don't need it, you can ask in ##windows for methods of writing the mbr
[08:20] <timmoe> k, thank you ^^
[08:21] <ChipsUbuntu> Ben64, good point. Y'know what? I'll just restore my backup from right before the installation. It's 3:20am and I'm not in the mood to complicate my life :p thanks for the help and pointers!
[08:22] <ChipsUbuntu> (and I should sleep. Class tomorrow. Fun stuff)
[08:22] <KemarinAkuDatang> Any vernian here?
[08:23] <abito> hei, from a few day i can't see on my network the shared folder from samba. i've change my network card, and now i can't see the shared folder, any suggestion?
[08:27] <LongCatTH> current daily build = 14.04 ?
[08:27] <LongCatTH> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS http://mirror1.ku.ac.th/ubuntu-trusty/MD5SUM
[08:27] <llutz> LongCatTH: trusty = 14.04
[08:28] <rww> ubuntu 14.04 isn't out yet, so by definition it isn't equal to things
[08:28] <DJones> LongCatTH: Still test version, hasn't been released yet
[08:28] <k1l_> !party | LongCatTH
[08:29] <gabmus> hello, i want to set my scroll lock key as caps lock, how do i do that?
[08:29] <mark__> i have an irc link, how do i reassociate the link to smuxi?
[08:30] <konobi> ikonia: what's even weirder is that ones that are the incorrect format, etc. still go through
[08:32] <rt280> !history
[08:33] <rt280> !help
[08:34] <rt280> !patience
[08:35] <k1l_> rt280: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[08:35] <rt280> when is 14.04 gonna come ?
[08:35] <rww> rt280: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[08:35] <ikonia> konobi: it's an interesting one for sure
[08:35] <cfhowlett> rt280 when it's done.
[08:38] <klaver> still has some bugs on upgrade: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/314/builds/66767/testcases
[08:41] <someHuman> When is 14.04 release date?
[08:42] <ikonia> today
[08:42] <ikonia> at some point in the next 24 hours
[08:42] <k1l_> !party | someHuman
[08:42] <someHuman> Let's party!
[08:42] <someHuman> ikonia: Thanks!
[08:43] <avlahop> Hello to all
[08:43] <someHuman> avlahop: Hi!
[08:43] <mark__> will i be able to update from 14.04 beta 2 to final?
[08:43] <avlahop> Good morning from Greece
[08:43] <mark__> good morning
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !final|mark__
[08:43] <someHuman> avlahop: Good morning Greece!
[08:43] <avlahop> People with 14.04 on their computers what must they do?
[08:43] <LongCatTH> 14.04 will use MIR instead of Xorg by default right?
[08:43] <someHuman> mark__: Yeah I guess so.
[08:43] <avlahop> Or will they be automatically updated?
[08:43] <rww> LongCatTH: no
[08:44] <mark__> 14.04 works so well with my 7950, can't wait for canonical to use the newer amd drivers
[08:44] <LongCatTH> why not lol
[08:44] <someHuman> I have 13.04 right now, how do I upgrade to 14.04?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|someHuman
[08:44] <DJones> someHuman: You need to upgrade to 13.10 first, and the 14.04
[08:44] <k1l_> LongCatTH: mir is included but its priority is on phones and tablets so far. 14.10 is the target for destop
[08:44] <LongCatTH> kill_: thanks
[08:44] <JesseB__> someHuman: I would wait about a day before starting this process.... 14.04 will be released soon but not yet
[08:45] <gabmus> unity is for plebs. gnome 3.11 is the way to go
[08:45] <someHuman> JesseB__: Ah ok. Thanks!
[08:45] <gabmus> jk
[08:45] <gabmus> 3.12*
[08:45] <mark__> unity is pretty good
[08:45] <someHuman> DJones: If I do that, I won't be even able to use 13.10 due to some graphic problem/being stuck with low graphics mode.
[08:45] <gabmus> i dont like it
[08:45] <mark__> it's advertising under wear for women >_>
[08:46] <k1l_> gabmus: you got the choice which desktop you want to use. no need to rant in here
[08:46] <Guest2343> !isitout
[08:46] <gabmus> k1l_, right, im not in #ubuntu-offtopic, sorry
[08:48] <gabmus> can i ask about my problem again?
[08:49] <mishoch> Hi people, I have an ubuntu 12.04 server on amazon AWS and installed the updated openssl 1.0.1g version on it. However I've been reading that nginx needs to be reinstalled, too. I uninstalled it and installed a binary package, but when ran the command [strings /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 | grep "^OpenSSL "] to check which version nginx is using, it's not the right version. Any idea where I can find step-by-step commands to
[08:50] <ikonia> mishoch: ldd the binary
[08:50] <ikonia> mishoch: see where it's linked against
[08:51] <ikonia> mishoch: from what you're saying though I suspect it's linked into nginx
[08:51] <mishoch> @ikonia, can you give me a command to see where it's linked against?
[08:51] <mishoch> cause I'm not an experienced linux user
[08:52] <geirha> ldd /bin/bash    shows what bash is linked against
[08:53] <Flannel> mishoch: How did you install the updated 1.0.1g version?
[08:53] <mishoch> that's the result of ldd /bin/bash
[08:53] <mishoch>         linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffb67b0000)         libtinfo.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.5 (0x00007ff798b62000)         libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007ff79895e000)         libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007ff79859d000)         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007ff798d92000)
[08:54] <mishoch> I installed it using [curl https://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz | tar xz && cd openssl-1.0.1g && sudo ./config && sudo make && sudo make install] and then [sudo ln -sf /usr/local/ssl/bin/openssl `which openssl`]
[08:55] <Flannel> mishoch: Yeah, that's not right.  Ubuntu (and most linuxes) use packages to control program versions and things, and not compiling from source.
[08:55] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu. I moved this system to a new machine here and right now I'm a bit stuck
[08:56] <Flannel> mishoch: The correct way to update is "sudo apt-get libssl1.0.0"
[08:56] <geirha> mishoch: Well, obviously you run it against the binary you're interested about. I just showed an example of how to use ldd
[08:56] <mar77i> booting stops at re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-readonly
[08:56] <mar77i> so, early userspace seems up and running, but I don't seem to be getting PID 1
[08:57] <mishoch> Flannel, will this overwrite the current package?
[08:57] <mishoch> geirha, thanks
[08:57] <Flannel> mishoch: What do you mean?
[08:57] <mar77i> I already reinstalled upstart with apt-get install --reinstall upstart... but now?
[08:57] <mishoch> Flannel: how do I uninstall the openssl 101g I already have installed
[08:58] <mishoch> do I need to do it before running the apt-get command?
[08:58] <Flannel> mishoch: Ugh.
[08:58] <geirha> mishoch: If you're lucky, you can run make uninstall in the source tree
[08:58] <Flannel> So, ok, since you overwrote the openssl from the package, what you need to first do is "sudo apt-get install openssl"
[08:59] <Flannel> mishoch: once that's done, lets just double check that that's not a link to your local version.
[08:59] <mishoch> I'll create a new AWS instance and run the apt-get with the right version
[08:59] <Flannel> erm, ok.
[08:59] <mishoch> thanks for the help guys
[09:00] <ioannes> ¿A qué hora publican la ISO de Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[09:00] <Flannel> If this is throwaway, then yeah, just make sure you're fully updated and you're good.
[09:00] <Flannel> mishoch: for 12.04, the version for libssl1.0.0 is 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 or above
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !es|ioannes
[09:00] <Quitifolen> hi
[09:00] <mar77i> hello?
[09:00] <ioannes> I'm new here.
[09:02] <ioannes> I don't know much english.
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ioannes use the spanish language channel
[09:02] <k1l_> !es | ioannes
[09:02] <mar77i> also, dpkg-reconfigure -a seems to be stuck in an endless loop
[09:03] <Flannel> ioannes: This channel is English only, however,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[09:03] <ioannes> Ok.
[09:03] <ioannes> Thank for the help me!
[09:06] <jellow> Hi there I'm having random freezes in firefox which results in my window looking like this http://imgur.com/fVZQW2B , What is causing it?
[09:07] <conguero> asd
[09:08] <cdalgicdir1> 123
[09:08] <jonatan> when out?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> jonatan on the 17th
[09:08] <k1l_> !party | jonatan
[09:08] <DJones> jonatan:  Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[09:09]  * cdalgicdir1
[09:09] <jonatan> tank you
[09:09]  * kunefge
[09:09] <locktonsteel> bit harsh
[09:14] <jimmy_birer> Hello everyone!
[09:16] <jimmy_birer> I moved from linux-image-3.11.0-19-generic to <IP_ADDRESS>-lowlatency because my fan wasn't working on the former ( Acer Aspire 5135). But now, whatever I do, (add new mode via xrandr, restart X, boot with modeset on or off, acpi on off) nothing helped. My screen should be 1280x800 (it was at installation) and now it's 1024x768, which is not the optimal.Question is, what can I do to get this fixed? Thank you in advance.
[09:16] <Pulsar_> Greetings to all! Does anyone know when the release is going to happen for the 14.04? Thanks!
[09:16] <DJones> Pulsar_: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[09:17] <Pulsar_> OK thanks!
[09:17] <jimmy_birer> Well, as long as it gets released this month
[09:22] <bolD> hey! how soon we get ubuntu 14.04?
[09:22] <DJones> bolD: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[09:22] <bolD> ok, thnx
[09:23] <jimmy_birer> Ok, I solved that problem
[09:24] <jimmy_birer> Now, my fan doesn't work unless I set "nomodeset"
[09:24] <jimmy_birer> What should I do about it?
[09:30] <djlanz24> hi guys
[09:30] <bolD> hi
[09:30] <djlanz24> @ what time trusty will be realease does anybody knew?
[09:30] <bmxscott1993> hello
[09:30] <DJones> djlanz24: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[09:31] <bolD> :)
[09:31] <bolD> djlanz24: I asked the same 10 minutes ago.. Looks like this is the most popular question today :)
[09:31] <djlanz24> alright got it tnx mate
[09:36] <whoalina> is there any way to get working intel GMA 3650 in ubuntu 13.10?
[09:36] <whoalina> I am stucked for few days now
[09:36] <whoalina> nothing seems to work at all
[09:37] <whoalina> by default ubuntu installed gma 500 driver, but thats sucks so much, is laggish as hell
[09:38] <whoalina> even on Windows 7 driver is not working properly, lags lags lags, my god
[09:39] <mote> Hi guys. At what time does 14.04 get released??
[09:39] <DJones> mote: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[09:40] <Guest91837> good morning
[09:40] <mote> DJones: Thanks!
[09:41] <soheilsh> @DJones: thanks, that was my question too! :)
[09:41] <whoalina> help someone please
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !help|whoalina
[09:43] <albus_dumbledore> @seen emmanix2002
[09:45] <Pricey> albus_dumbledore: /msg nickserv info emmanix2002
[09:46] <emmanix2002> albus_dumbledore: didn't know you were here
[09:47] <Snicholls> is there a set time the that the Ubuntu Images are released? still waiting on 14.04 as i am sure the world is.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !party|Snicholls when it's done
[09:48] <albus_dumbledore> emmanix2002: :D
[09:48] <shiznix> whoalina: have you tried changing the acceleration method ?
[09:48] <albus_dumbledore> !Trusty
[09:49] <emmanix2002> albus_dumbledore: ;-)
[09:49] <Snicholls> haha great wasn't sure if they always had a timescale on release date waiting patiently !Trusty
[09:49] <shiznix> whoalina: intel gfx driver in ubuntu defaults to 'sna' now iirc, but older intel gfx gpus will require selection of 'uxa'
[09:51] <albus_dumbledore> I feel it will be released within the next 30 min
[09:52] <cfhowlett> albus_dumbledore a disturbance in the force notwithstanding, it's on schedule to be relased 04/17/14
[09:52] <albus_dumbledore> cfhowlett: u a dev?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> albus_dumbledore nope
[09:53] <albus_dumbledore> cfhowlett: ok
[09:54] <brentjuh> cant wait for ubuntu 14.04!!!
[09:54] <shiznix> whoalina: errr... but i now just read that "Note: PowerVR-based graphics (GMA 500 and GMA 3600 series) are not supported by open source drivers"
[09:55] <shiznix> so you might be outta luck there :(
[09:55] <Thumper6501> https://licensing.psu.ac.th/ubuntu-14-04-lts/  <--- seems legit *laughs*
[09:55] <brentjuh> hi
[09:55] <BotherSome1> Am trying to get install JBoss in my ubuntu server but unable to the right version of Java
[09:56] <BotherSome1>  can any one let me know openJDK or Oracle JDK
[09:56] <salsero> brentjuh: wait a couple of weeks for some bugs to get squashed
[09:56] <Guest91837> oracleJDC
[09:56] <salsero> BotherSome1:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[09:56] <Guest91837> JDK*
[09:57] <BotherSome1> thanks Guest91837
[09:57] <BotherSome1> let me have a try to get installed with that JDK
[10:00] <ik_> what time will ubuntu 14.04 released??
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !party|ik_ when it's done
[10:03] <mk10> hey dudessssss
[10:03] <klaver> http://lubuntu.net/ already seems to have it?
[10:03] <mk10> anyone here today...
[10:03] <mk10> hey klaver how are you today..
[10:04] <mk10> can i get some help just built myself a nas box  ..i was to run a nas server for media streaming web server etc what can i use an alternative to windows home server
[10:04] <mk10> can i do it with ubuntu
[10:12] <cybercool> Waiting for Ubuntu 14.04! At which time it will be available?
[10:12] <NK_> same question here
[10:12] <NK_> will it be delayed ?
[10:12] <DJones> Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[10:12] <brentjuh> nobody knows :S
[10:13] <karthik> hi
[10:13] <brentjuh> hey
[10:13] <mk10> hello
[10:13] <mk10> is ubuntu ok to run a server
[10:13] <brentjuh> somebody dutch here?
[10:13] <karthik> i need some help in ubuntu 10.04
[10:14] <sudipto> hi when will 14.04 be released?????????
[10:14] <DJones> sudipto: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[10:15] <n4uah> u should add a countdown for it.
[10:15] <ronin> how do I get in "insert mode" with :command
[10:15] <ronin> in vim
[10:15] <ronin> my insert-button doesn't work
[10:16] <cybercool> DJones: Thanks!! Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Heart beat going up and up!! ;)
[10:17] <karthik> when i open some applications in ubuntu. after i go home and take remote to my ubuntu machine but whatever i opened application will be closed. Again i have to open all applications.
[10:17] <karthik> What is the reason?
[10:18] <napcode> ronin: hitting escape a couple of times should bring you back into normal mode. from there i & o should bring you into insert mode
[10:20] <karthik> which is the best way to work remotely from windows to ubuntu..?
[10:20] <ikonia> karthik: depends what you need
[10:21] <karthik> i was using NX client to connect to my ubuntu but it is having some problem
[10:21] <cfhowlett> !server|mk10
[10:22] <ikonia> karthik: that can work fine, making sure your version of client/server match
[10:22] <mdunc> mk10: yes, you sure can.  apache can take care of your web server needs and samba can share your files over the network.
[10:23] <karthik> ok some times if i work directly in ubuntu after i go home i can remote through NX but whatever i open applications that all will go off. Again i have to open all applications or anything
[10:24] <cybercool> mk10: Wait for a few moments (few minutes or hours) until 14.04 will be available.
[10:24] <mk10> why is that cybercool ??
[10:24] <tarelerulz> Why wait for Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:24] <pippoxxx> ciao a tutti belli e brutti
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !it|pippoxxx
[10:25] <cm13g09> I didn't know ubottu was multi-lingual :)
[10:25] <Discordian_> of course it is
[10:25] <Discordian_> it's community based
[10:25] <mk10> cybercool, why wait for ubuntui 14.04?
[10:25] <cybercool> It's another LTS version and will have support for next 5 years from now.
[10:25] <Discordian_> I personally can't wait for 14.04
[10:25] <cm13g09> I should probably have expected it
[10:26] <karthik> ok some times if i work directly in ubuntu after i go home i can remote through NX but whatever i open applications that all will go off. Again i have to open all applications or anything. Is there any way to get my things back
[10:26] <mk10> can i stream my media over network with it
[10:26] <pippoxxx> join ubuntu-it
[10:26] <tarelerulz> Have any of you run Ubuntu touch ?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !touch|tarelerulz
[10:26] <Discordian_> I'm waiting for devices that come pre-installed with ubuntu touch
[10:26] <Discordian_> it'll take a while probably
[10:28] <bmxscott1993> do any one now what time is it going to be Releases in London because im wail to download the os and burn it to a dvd
[10:28] <tarelerulz> it would be nice to see Ubuntu official product in action . I don't see how they can stack up against , Android , ISO and Windows mobile os  .
[10:28] <mk10> if ubuntu 14.04 can do my nas box need ill wait for it
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !party|bmxscott1993 when it's done
[10:28] <mk10> when does it come out...
[10:28] <mdunc> mk10: what are you trying to stream to?
[10:28] <cfhowlett> mk10 April 17th, 2014
[10:28] <mk10> like home network...got 5 computer
[10:29] <mk10> and stream over tv..from nas box just pick and watch
[10:29] <mk10> yeah what time lol
[10:30] <tarelerulz> mk10: You every think about just have a media pc hooked to the tv at all times.
[10:30] <mk10> nope dont want to that
[10:30] <ThE_AsKeR> hello
[10:31] <tarelerulz> mk10: What is it you do want?
[10:31] <ThE_AsKeR> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in a mac g5 with the alternative installation cd
[10:31] <Bernard685> !countdown
[10:31] <ThE_AsKeR> could anybody help me choosing an option?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> !mac|ThE_AsKeR   not sure about g5 capability
[10:33] <mk10> anyone know what time ubuntu come ouit
[10:33] <cfhowlett> mk10 you've asked several times.  read the answer this time.  WHEN IT'S READY = no set time but date = April 17th, 2014
[10:33] <Discordian_> so the next ubuntu release will be in 30 minutes?
[10:33] <cm13g09> mk10: It will be released when it is ready.  It clearly isn't quite ready yet (probably a couple of things to fix).
[10:34] <mk10> is this going to take over windows eventually|
[10:34] <cm13g09> Discordian_: not necessarily.  There's till 12 1/2 hours left of Thursday 17th in the UK
[10:34] <julien1> 30 minutes :p
[10:35] <cfhowlett> I'm pretty sure April 17th will last for 24 hours ...
[10:35] <william_> tes
[10:35] <william_> testing 1, 2, 3
[10:35] <cfhowlett> william_ we see you
[10:35] <william_> hahaha
[10:36] <john1999> !isitoutyet
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> !isitout
[10:37] <william_> waiting for Ubuntu 14.04
[10:37] <Discordian_> http://i.imgur.com/nrwb8Jc.jpg
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !party|william_
[10:37] <william_> i can't waiting :v
[10:44] <leontheman> yo, tried to install win 7 from flash usb, onto ubuntu 12.04 (which is the main os),   and i get this error saying "windows was unable to create the required destination folder" , anyone know the cause?
[10:46] <leontheman> ahh no worries
[10:46] <leontheman> no windows/ubuntu pros?
[10:47] <ikonia> "pros" ?
[10:47] <dampe> how long until release? :3
[10:47] <leontheman> i mean people who are good at both
[10:47] <ikonia> install windows "onto" ubuntu ?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> "windows"?
[10:47] <ikonia> leontheman: you can't install windows onto ubuntu
[10:47] <DJones> dampe: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[10:47] <leontheman> i mean install it over
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !isitoutyet|dampe
[10:47] <leontheman> instead of ubuntu
[10:47] <ikonia> leontheman: ok, so you'll need to format the disk
[10:48] <leontheman> i did
[10:48] <leontheman> formatted my second hdd to ntfs
[10:48] <ikonia> leontheman: ok, so then the problem is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:48] <ikonia> leontheman: the problem is the windows installer
[10:48] <leontheman> ahh a hardware problem?
[10:48] <ikonia> no
[10:48] <ikonia> doubtful
[10:48] <ikonia> but ##windows is the right place as now ubuntu no longer exists on your machine
[10:48] <ikonia> so it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:48] <leontheman> this machine is ubuntu
[10:48] <leontheman> i got an ssd and a hdd
[10:49] <ikonia> (as in stopping you install)
[10:49] <ikonia> leontheman: you just said you formatted it to install over ubuntu
[10:49] <tirengarfio> I have a command that I "installed" some time ago, when I run it, it is run correctly, but my problem is that I don't know where it is I expected to find it in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin but no...I have run "which my_command" and "whereis my_command" but I don't get any result
[10:49] <ikonia> thefore ubuntu is gone
[10:49] <ikonia> so ubuntu is not a problem for your install
[10:49] <leontheman> this hdd has ubuntu
[10:49] <leontheman> the second hdd is formatted
[10:49] <ikonia> leontheman: is it possible you could clearly commuinicate what youa re trying to do
[10:49] <n4uah> >_<
[10:49] <ikonia> leontheman: you said you where trying to format it over the top of ubuntu, now you say you still have ubuntu
[10:50] <n4uah> i cant wait..
[10:50] <Siebjee> does anyone has experience with an matrox m9648 PXI-E grafix card on any ubuntu version ?
[10:50] <leontheman> no
[10:50] <leontheman> i have ione ubuntu ssd
[10:50] <leontheman> and one formatted hd
[10:50] <leontheman> im only using this one to do this, know what i mean
[10:50] <ikonia> leontheman: right so you are not trying to install over ubuntu
[10:50] <cfhowlett> leontheman so you want windows on the hdd?
[10:50] <ikonia> leontheman: you are trying to do a windows install to the second hard disk
[10:50] <leontheman> well now i know it cant be done im not
[10:51] <ikonia> leontheman: so again if the windows installer cannot write to the second hard disk, that is a windows problem/windows installer problem
[10:51] <ikonia> the guys in ##windows can help you with that
[10:51] <leontheman> one sec, i know im beng very vague, give me  SEC
[10:51] <leontheman> KK thankyou very much
[10:51] <Mikerhinos> leontheman: windows will erase your boot partition because he's a b*tch, prepare to reinstall grub if you want to keep ubuntu
[10:52] <ikonia> Mikerhinos: no it won't and there is no need to call it names
[10:52] <ikonia> Mikerhinos: it will overwrite the mbr only
[10:52] <ikonia> it won't touch the boot partition
[10:52] <cm13g09> ikonia speaks the truth :)  That said, I usually install Windows on one disk first, then Ubuntu afterwards as it is infinitely easier!
[10:53] <canterw00t> ^ truth.
[10:53] <mjayk> cm13g09: agree
[10:53] <ikonia> it is the recommended order
[10:53] <Bernard682> !countdown
[10:53] <cfhowlett> ^^^ word
[10:53] <m0e42> yep
[10:53] <william_> Ubuntu 14.04 hell yeah :v
[10:53] <rohde71> just remove the ubuntu disk when you install windows and reinstall it after install is done
[10:54] <rohde71> that is reinstall the disk, not windows...
[10:54] <cm13g09> it is possible to install Ubuntu, then Windows, but you have to unplug/replug drives and the moment you want a split disk (i.e. Windows in 1 partition, Ubuntu in another) and install Ubuntu first, you are going to have a little more fun.
[10:54] <ikonia> you don't have to unplug any disks
[10:55] <ikonia> you only need to re-apply grub to the mbr
[10:55] <ikonia> that's it, nothing magic
[10:55] <cm13g09> true, it's nothing magic
[10:55] <mjayk> you dont, you just need to re upodate grub
[10:55] <ikonia> you need to re-install grub to the mbr
[10:55] <ikonia> update grub just updates the config files
[10:56] <ikonia> which is pointless if grub is not on the mbr
[10:56] <cm13g09> I appreciate what I said was technically wrong - however if you expect Ubuntu to boot after installing Windows, and you haven't done any disk plugging, you may be out of luck - as Windows has its own opinions on how to do booting.  That said, it's nothing that grub-install and/or update-grub can't fix.
[10:57] <ikonia> update-grub will NOT fix it
[10:58] <cm13g09> ok, yes, ikonia, sorry, update-grub on its own...  won't fix - apologies...
[10:59] <Anonymous2137> grub-install /dev/sdx --no-floppy
[10:59] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 14.04 lts releasing?
[11:00] <KeithWeisshar> what time does ubuntu 14.04 release
[11:00] <Ben64> within 24 hours, probably
[11:00] <DJones> KeithWeisshar: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which is planned to be sometime on the 17th.  There isn't a set time and we don't have any indication of when it will be released.  You are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to discuss the release while you wait.
[11:02] <mkander_> I have created a custom login script but getty says it is respawning too fast
[11:03] <mkander_> Anyone know how to debug? If I just start the script from command line it works
[11:04] <bmxscott1993> i wonder if they have sorted out the amd crystal control center out on the new 14.04 lts
[11:09] <bmxscott1993> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04.4&architecture=amd64
[11:13] <Discordian_> Will 14.04 work with my AMD A10 APU?
[11:13] <Discordian_> And will I be able to use the proprietary drivers?
[11:15] <mar77i> heh
[11:15] <mar77i> wtf, I'm not getting past early userspace, it seems.
[11:16] <mar77i> I fixed and double-checked UUIDs both in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg. any other ideas?
[11:16] <mjayk> Discordian_: Should work and there should be prop drivers for it http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_a10kaveri_linwin&num=1 < here is a review of that on ubuntu 14.04
[11:16] <pinnen> time to celebrate today? Release of 14.04 today right?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> !party|pinnen
[11:17] <pinnen> cfhowlett: ohh haha, nice! thanks m8
[11:17] <mar77i> (this is an ext4 partition that has been moved from one system to another...)
[11:19] <cmcooper123> has anyone made a count down timer for 14.04?
[11:19] <Discordian_> thank you so much mjayk
[11:22] <wickedheadache> how  do i repair the boot process even for windows ?
[11:22] <mjayk> Discordian_: no worries
[11:22] <mjayk> wickedheadache: what do you mean repair, what is the problem ?
[11:23] <wickedheadache> my pc crashed, and won't boot, windows...another partition loads but still crashes...i remember there is some check disk utility in ubuntu that might help
[11:24] <wickedheadache> Ijust don't remember the command or file
[11:24] <cfhowlett> wickedheadache windows support is in ##windows
[11:25] <wickedheadache> i'm not looking for windows specific help
[11:25] <mjayk> wickedheadache: so you can boot into ubuntu but when you select windows from the grub menu it crashes?
[11:25] <wickedheadache> i guess the question is how do i repair my disk in ubuntu
[11:26] <wickedheadache> i'm in ubuntu live cd now
[11:27] <Miron> w
[11:27] <Miron> er
[11:27] <bigred15> Does anyone know if it's possible to utilise MPD with PS3MediaServer?
[11:27] <Miron> I switched tabs in the middle of typing a message
[11:27] <mjayk> wickedheadache: you can try that http://askubuntu.com/questions/59064/how-to-run-a-checkdisk but it depends on what your problem is more specifically
[11:28] <Conna> ekekek :v
[11:30] <dupingping> hey
[11:30] <dupingping> everybody
[11:30] <mjayk> haya
[11:31] <mk10> is it out yet
[11:31] <dupingping> There is no function to "Reconnect when connection dropped" in grdesktop
[11:31] <dupingping> How to do it?
[11:31] <aligator> hi
[11:31] <mk10> is ubuntu taking over windows in future
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !ot|mk10
[11:32] <mk10> mjayk, is ubuntu taking over windows..
[11:33] <debabrata> i don't think ubuntu can take over windoes... atleast not in five years..
[11:33] <cfhowlett> mk10 please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel, not chitcaht
[11:33] <hexafraction> Hi, how can I force all traffic to a given IP address be sent to loopback instead?
[11:34] <aligator> this may seem like a wierd question to ask here but, how can you tell  if your wireless card is capable of raw packet injection/
[11:34] <aligator> does anyone know?
[11:34] <hexafraction> aligator: Which card? Or do you need to script it for an arbitrary card?
[11:34] <tubatuba> Could you please give me a link to instructions I can follow to install Ubuntu on Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102 ?
[11:34] <mk10> comon guys iam impatient just want to know when 10.04 is due
[11:34] <hexafraction> 10.04 has been due for nearly 4 years now.
[11:34] <cfhowlett> mk10 10.04 was released in 2010
[11:35] <hexafraction> And it has been released nearly 4 years ago
[11:35] <aligator> hexafraction: the card is ipw2200bg
[11:35] <hexafraction> Never seen it.
[11:35] <mk10> no not that the new one..
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !party|mk10 chat about the release in the other channel - NOT in the support channel please.  thank you.
[11:35] <hexafraction> Do you have injection tools installed already?
[11:36] <cybercool> What does "Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 703MiB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine." means? I am seeing this message since a long time. Will any of the next version will fit on a CD?
[11:36] <dupingping> There is no function to "Reconnect when connection dropped" in grdesktop
[11:36] <aligator> i am using kali so i guess so right?
[11:36] <dupingping> How to do it?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !kali|aligator
[11:36] <aligator> okay sorry thanks for the help, i will ask somewhere else
[11:38] <tubatuba> Seems like it is not possible to install Ubuntu on Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102 ....
[11:38] <debabrata> i have a cdma broadband dongle. it connects sometimes but not everytime. what should i do?
[11:39] <drdozer> hi - I'm trying to use davfs2 to mount my home NAS webdav pictures folder
[11:39] <drdozer> I can browse the webdav with chromium
[11:39] <drdozer> but davfs2 asks me for a username and password when I try to mount it
[11:40] <drdozer> the web browser doesn't ask, and wget is able to fetch the resource without logging in
[11:40] <Daghdha> Hi, i made the setting 'update interval' for resources in the program  'system monitor' 10 seconds. But the graph still shifts left every second
[11:40] <Daghdha> Is that a bug?
[11:40] <dupingping> There is no function to "Reconnect when connection dropped" in grdesktop
[11:40] <dupingping> How to do it?
[11:41] <Lionthinker> hi guys, what time is Trusty released?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !party| Lionthinker
[11:42] <Lionthinker> ubottu, apologies
[11:42] <BotherSome1> How do i get install, oracle installer package
[11:42] <debabrata> it just says connection failed. it generally happens 70% of times. is there any command line alternative..
[11:44] <dupingping> !ping
[11:44] <BotherSome1> root@jboss:~# update-java-alternatives -s java-7-oracle
[11:44] <BotherSome1> update-java-alternatives: directory does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[11:44] <BotherSome1> root@jboss:~# apt-get install oracle intaller package
[11:45] <dupingping> !ops
[11:45] <mk10> omy what version of ubuntu is it
[11:45] <IdleOne> dupingping: yes?
[11:45] <BotherSome1> how to i get the oracle pakage installed in ubuntu
[11:45] <dupingping> There is no function to "Reconnect when connection dropped" in grdesktop
[11:46] <dupingping> How to do it?
[11:46] <elky> dupingping: you're well aware that this is not what the ops call is for
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !patience|dupingping and please don't abuse the ops
[11:46] <DJones> dupingping: Please don't call ops because you're not getting a reply, you have to be patient and give more details
[11:46] <debabrata> it's 12.04
[11:46] <IdleOne> dupingping: you called ops to ask a support question?
[11:46] <dupingping> !language
[11:46] <elky> cfhowlett: there's 2 of us here, we got this :)
[11:46] <dupingping> !langauge
[11:47] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:48] <llkluba> Is ubutu 14.04 releas ?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !party|llkluba
[11:49] <llkluba> Is ubuntu 14.04 releas ?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> llkluba no.  read the above -
[11:50] <dupingping> Hi
[11:50] <ojdo> llkluba: what's so difficult to check http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ ?
[11:50] <tubatuba> Can somebody please tell me if Ubuntu is compatibile with Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102 ? HELP PLEASE
[11:51] <tubatuba> I mean if Ubuntu can be installed on it or not
[11:51] <cfhowlett> tubatuba better to ask in chromebook support
[11:51] <tubatuba> Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu any one of these
[11:51] <tubatuba> but I want Ubuntu! not chrome!
[11:51] <tubatuba> :)
[11:52] <Exagone313> should I wait some days to do update to the new LTS version ?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> tubatuba if you look, you'll find various threads on chrome about ubuntu
[11:52] <tubatuba> they will not tell me how to remove their system I think
[11:52] <Ben64> tubatuba: then make a liveusb and try it out
[11:52] <tubatuba> but do you think it's ok to do it with Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102 ?
[11:53] <tubatuba> is it doable?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> tubatuba have you even tried?
[11:53] <Ben64> we don't know specific models. try it using a live usb
[11:53] <ahhmarr_> hey any news when trusty will be up on the website
[11:53] <Ben64> ahhmarr_: within 24 hours probably
[11:53] <jeanaustinr> Exagone313, depends on you if you want to adopt early or late. I usually wait about a few days before upgrading. Best thing to do before upgrading whether early or late is to backup all your data just to make sure.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !party|ahhmarr_ "when it's ready"
[11:53] <ahhmarr_> thanks guys
[11:55] <tubatuba> not tried. Before trying I would like to know if it's possible. If somebody did it before. Or if an expert can tell it just by looking at specifications or dont know what
[11:55] <Lartza> umm my mouse just stopped working
[11:55] <Lartza> usb
[11:55] <jellow> tubatuba, I would ask in chrubuntu for ubuntu on chromebooks
[11:55] <Lartza> ALL mouses I have a wireless media keyboard on my front usb
[11:55] <BotherSome1> any one can help in best site where i can try Jboss installation for my ubuntu server
[11:55] <cfhowlett> tubatuba make usb.  boot.  test.  easy.
[11:56] <Lartza> could be that usb devices stopped working actually...
[11:56] <wickedheadache> mjayk:  hmm well it seems the disk has bad sectors or something...i guess i need to repair this
[11:56] <BotherSome1> any one can help in best site where i can try Jboss installation for my ubuntu server
[11:56] <Exagone313> are they all languages in the new LTS version ?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Lartza batteries?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Exagone313 yes
[11:56] <Lartza> cfhowlett, no but my mx518 wont move either
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Lartza no idea with mx518 is but okay.
[11:57] <Lartza> cfhowlett, usb mouse
[11:57] <Daghdha> huuh 14.04? I am still on 12.04 :( I missed one
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Lartza logout/login
[11:57] <Lartza> usb stick was detected when I plugged it in
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Daghdha not if you install lts only ... 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04
[11:57] <Lartza> cfhowlett, with keyboard only how :) thanks
[11:57] <Daghdha> oh cool, yes i am LTS only
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Daghdha likewise.  fewer headaches.
[11:58] <tubatuba> ok I will try. Thank you.