[07:41] <Lunz> does anyone know about animated wallpaper?
[07:41] <troy_s> Lunz: What are you trying to do?
[07:41] <troy_s> Lunz: You can write a python script that updates the gconf setting every now and then
[07:41] <Lunz> i want to use a wallpaper
[07:41] <troy_s> Lunz: And you can have an animated wall.
[07:41] <Lunz> but i want my wallpaper animate..
[07:42] <troy_s> Oh man
[07:42] <troy_s> Read what I just typed.
[07:42] <Lunz> using glmatrix as my wallpaper..is that possible?
[07:42] <troy_s> That is a different thing
[07:42] <troy_s> setting a screensaver as your root window will cause a few issues
[07:42] <troy_s> for one, all of your desktop icons will not be there any more
[07:42] <troy_s> as you must tell nautilus to relinquish control of the root window
[07:42] <troy_s> (being the desktop)
[07:42] <troy_s> then you simply tell the screensaver to display on the root window
[07:43] <troy_s> so in summary 1) set your gconf setting so that nautilus won't draw to the root window
[07:43] <troy_s> 2) tell your glscreensaver to display on the root window (handle 0)
[07:43] <troy_s> very simple
[07:43] <troy_s> google if you need more help
[07:43] <Lunz> wow..i dont understand what are you talking about...i am newbie lol
[07:44] <Lunz> have you came across with xwinwrap
[07:44] <troy_s> Lunz: Effectively 'nautilus' is your browser and file manager for the system -- it grabs hold of the root window so that you get automount icons and shortcuts on it.
[07:44] <troy_s> Lunz: To display a screensaver in the root window (the desktop you are staring at) you will need to DISABLE nautilus from grabbing it -- that is a gconf setting.
[07:45] <troy_s> Lunz: Then you tell your glscreensaver to write on it.
[07:45] <troy_s> Lunz: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Screensaver_in_Background
[07:46] <Lunz> thanks
[07:46] <Lunz> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/14/animated-wallpaper-with-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu/
[07:46] <Lunz> does this work?
[07:48] <troy_s> Lunz: Probably.  Experiment and learn something ;)
[08:06] <Lunz> how to edit the splash screen?
[08:07] <troy_s> Lunz: What splash?
[08:07] <troy_s> Lunz: There is the usplash -- the splash when you start the computer
[08:07] <troy_s> Lunz: then the splash that is between logon and desktop
[08:07] <troy_s> Lunz: Ignore the latter as it is gone in Gutsy
[08:08] <Lunz> how to edit with custom image?
[08:10] <Lunz> not usplash..
[08:10] <Lunz> between logon and desktop
[08:10] <Lunz> can i edit/replace it?
[08:26] <nothlit> gnomesplash is in gconf iirc
[10:35] <nysosym> hi there
[10:36] <lassegul> hi nysosym
[10:36] <nysosym> hi lassegul how are you?
[10:37] <lassegul> we just upgraded the internet product we sell to our customers, so its wild wild west at work.
[10:38] <nysosym> ohh that's bad, good luck ;)
[10:38] <lassegul> people complain that they dont get the right speed. Customer:"I was promised 26000 kbit/s. I only get 4000 kbyte/s." etc.
[10:39] <nysosym> ohhh i have promised 16000kbit/s and get 3800kbit/s :D
[10:39] <lassegul> nysosym: whats new on your end?
[10:39] <lassegul> :)
[10:40] <nysosym> hmm nothing interesting, i draw some characters for a computer game of a good friend :D
[10:41] <lassegul> cool. Link?
[10:41] <nysosym> nothing official yet, it's a private game in a very very early state
[10:42] <lassegul> ok :P
[10:43] <nysosym> but if you want you can see a work in progress concept character ^^
[10:44] <nysosym> http://www.nysosym.de/crazyboy.png
[10:46] <lassegul> cool. What kind of game is this?
[10:47] <nysosym> a mic of rpg and ego shooter, a little bit like oblivion but in a possible future
[10:47] <nysosym> *mix
[10:51] <hellraiser_rob> Morning all :)
[10:51] <nysosym> morning hellraiser_rob
[10:51] <hellraiser_rob> Is it raining everywhere, or just in London?
[10:52] <nysosym> in the middle of germany everything is clear and dry :D
[10:53] <hellraiser_rob> Thats not fair
[10:53] <nysosym> that's life :D
[10:53] <hellraiser_rob> You @ work?
[10:53] <nysosym> @home ;)
[10:54] <nysosym> holidays
[10:54] <hellraiser_rob> Double not fair!
[10:55] <nysosym> hehe, sry :D
[10:55] <hellraiser_rob> Never mind, at least i'm not busy
[10:55] <hellraiser_rob> hence irc chat :D
[10:56] <nysosym> lol, what kind of job do you have?
[11:00] <lassegul> dont worry, its raining in norway as well.
[11:01] <hellraiser_rob> design department
[11:01] <hellraiser_rob> good to hear lassegul :P
[11:21] <tonic-pushcart> I remember somebody was asking about usplash stuff?
[11:21] <tonic-pushcart> I can give pointers if people like
[12:21] <tonic-pushcart> night!
[12:47] <nysosym> for the next ubuntu release, we need more default wallpapers, people love the idea, to have the choice of a poll with good wallpapers
[12:48] <hellraiser_rob> sounds like a sensible idea to me
[12:48] <hellraiser_rob> i guess once the wiki comes up people can start submitting them
[12:49] <hellraiser_rob> i've no idea who makes the decision about how many get included per release
[12:49] <nysosym> but i think there would be a problem with the space on a normal cd :-/
[12:50] <lassegul> yeah the CD is packed as I understand it.
[12:51] <hellraiser_rob> yes there is that
[12:51] <hellraiser_rob> but i mean wallpapers are very simple to install yourself
[12:53] <nysosym> sure, but i think the most people use the wallpaper inside of the package
[12:56] <nysosym> the best example is vista, many people love the collection of the wallpaper inside
[12:56] <nysosym> maybe the best feature in windows vista :D
[12:56] <nothlit> more default, lol, i don't know that any more will fit
[12:56] <nothlit> ubuntu keeps getting larger and larger
[12:57] <nothlit> lassegul: what did you ping me about before
[12:57] <lassegul> nothlit: hi. do you know if there have been any discussions about moving to dvd at some point?
[12:57] <lassegul> nothlit: hmm..
[12:57] <lassegul> nothlit: thats a very long time ago, isnt it?
[12:58] <nothlit> there is a dvd already
[12:58] <nothlit> but isos are more accessible to burn or use on legacy systems
[12:58] <nothlit> cd isos*
[12:59] <nothlit> lassegul: yes it was two days ago
[12:59] <lassegul> nothlit: i dont remember anymore...
[12:59] <nysosym> hmm but ubuntu is one of the last distros who didn't use dvd isos as default
[12:59] <nysosym> i think cd isos should be the option, not the default one
[01:01] <nysosym> sooner or later is it impossible to avoid the dvd iso image
[01:02] <nysosym> when i look at me, i didn't buy cd-rs anymore, only dvd-rw
[01:03] <nothlit> you're still a tech geek
[01:03] <hellraiser_rob> hopefully there will be no need to do anything but a seamless upgrade soon ;)
[01:03] <nysosym> (i know i'm not the middle of the earth*
[01:05] <hellraiser_rob> i wonder what the chances of getting an area on the official site
[01:05] <hellraiser_rob> for additional official wallpapers + usplash options etc etc
[01:07] <nysosym> i think there should be one "big" default wallpaper, for official screenshots etc.
[01:09] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: if you see the mailing list archives for this month, you will find discussions about art.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <hellraiser_rob> lassegul: what was the outcome, greenlighted/
[01:12] <nothlit> hellraiser_rob: http://ubuntu-art.org/
[01:13] <nothlit> for less official, the wiki will hold less random works
[01:13] <nothlit> and i'm guessing most of it will go into the community package
[01:13] <nothlit> or someone will finally use the artwork builder
[01:13] <nothlit> and submit it themselves
[01:14] <hellraiser_rob> nothlit: thanks for the link
[01:15] <lassegul> nothlit: great work with the wiki. its nearly finished now, until we have more to put up.
[01:17] <lassegul> nothlit: but still if you are clicking next to browse all the incoming alternate you will get to platypus and from there press next and go to /Incoming. You know how to solve that?
[01:19] <nothlit> uhh
[01:19] <nothlit> make a copy of platypus in hardy/alternate instead of a redirect
[01:20] <nothlit> lassegul: we have a whole page to work on, contribution guidelines
[01:20] <nothlit> and we can start on the faq as well lol
[01:20] <nothlit> theres always things to do
[01:21] <lassegul> lol ok.
[01:21] <lassegul> i was just browsing through it today, and was happy about it. :)
[01:21] <lassegul> want to work on it tonight?
[01:25] <nothlit> lol, i was shocked
[01:26] <nothlit> someone pasted two wallpapersized heron references on the animals page
[01:26] <nothlit> no thumbnail
[01:26] <nothlit> :P
[01:26] <nothlit> yeah sure, dunno what your tonight is though, dumb time zones
[01:28] <lassegul> you are +6 so its about your 4AM, which usually isnt a problem for you for some reason.
[01:28] <lassegul> :P
[01:29] <lassegul> norway +6. i like this way of zoning time.
[01:49] <hellraiser_rob> what are you guys going to do to the wiki then?
[01:50] <hellraiser_rob> just update the guidelines etc?
[02:02] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: yeah, the whole site has been redesigned, so we only have single pages left to do.
[02:05] <lassegul> and some occasional tweaking. nothlit is the wiki wizard though.
[02:10] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: you never answered that poster guy?
[02:15] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: if you have the time, why not create an alternative? Im sure the loco teams could make use of a good poster.
[02:28] <hellraiser_rob> lassegul: Was there a specific brief/need for it?
[02:30] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: not that im aware of.
[02:31] <hellraiser_rob> excuse my ignorance, but loco teams are regional groups?
[02:32] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: np, yes.
[02:32] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[02:34] <hellraiser_rob> Are there specific core fonts which tended to be used in the art team?
[02:38] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: not sure. theres always the ubuntu title font. nothlit do you know?
[02:39] <hellraiser_rob> nothlit the user?
[02:40] <hellraiser_rob> oh sorry i see what you mean..
[02:40] <lassegul> ;)
[02:47] <hellraiser_rob> he must be on a coffee break
[02:50] <lassegul> yup
[02:52] <lassegul> hellraiser_rob: Maybe you can tell from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DVDCover
[02:53] <nysosym> wuaaahh osx leopard edu 115 against 90from tiger
[02:54] <lassegul> nysosym: what?
[02:55] <nysosym> lassegul: mac osx 10.5 is as edu version 25 as the 10.4 edu pendant .... :-/
[02:56] <hellraiser_rob> lassegul: thanks for that
[02:59] <lassegul> nysosym: maybe im an idiot, but i still dont understand what you are saying. edu version 25?
[03:01] <nysosym> the edu version of osx 10.5 costs 25 more as the 10.4 edu version
[03:01] <nysosym> 90 from 10.4 against 115 from 10.5
[03:02] <lassegul> nysosym: oh ok. im not seing the euro sign right. or dollar or pound or whatever it is you are writing.
[03:14] <hellraiser_rob> you folks work on mac hardware/
[03:18] <nothlit`alpha> i doubt it, ppc isn't even official anymore
[03:19] <lassegul> not without putting a gun to my head / not a big Apple fan, no.
[03:25] <hellraiser_rob> i do find it amusing the way apple fans think steve jobs is the massiah
[03:27] <hellraiser_rob> amusing article which turned up on digg recently: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2193640,00.asp
[04:32] <kwwii> boah, what a day
[04:32] <kwwii> *everything* is wet
[04:32] <kwwii> even the drawers were full of water
[04:32] <nysosym> hi kwwii
[04:32] <nysosym> wtf, how does this work?! O.o
[04:33] <hellraiser_rob> how did you manage that?
[04:33] <kwwii> I was preparing a salad, missed the fact that the water was still running very slightly and left the room to check my email
[04:34] <kwwii> came back about twenty minutes later, slipped and fell in the lake in my kitchen
[04:34] <kwwii> even the toolbox was full of water
[04:34] <hellraiser_rob> oh dear :P
[04:35] <lapo> hi
[04:35] <kwwii> hi lapo
[04:35] <hellraiser_rob> hello
[04:35] <nysosym> hi
[04:35] <nysosym> kwwii: i hope nothing is damaged
[04:36] <kwwii> nysosym: luckily I don't keep any electronics or electric stuff down low
[04:36] <nysosym> fine :)
[04:37] <kwwii> but my kitchen table is now a provisional drying table
[04:41] <kwwii> at least my wife cannot say that I never clean the floor
[04:41] <lassegul> lol.
[04:41] <nysosym> hehe :D
[04:41] <andreasn> kwwii: ouch, flood
[04:43] <kwwii> I mean, I am just finishing up my work for gutsy, looking forward to a bit of peace and then I go and do something like this
[08:58] <lassegul> _MMA_: whats up with the upside down writing?
[08:58] <_MMA_> :)
[08:59] <_MMA_> Grabs attention.
[08:59] <lassegul> _MMA_: it sure does.
[08:59] <_MMA_> Been kinda quiet in here last few days.
[09:00] <lassegul> it has.Im looking forward to kwwii finishing up his work on his other project, and can focus on this again.
[09:00] <_MMA_> I see.
[09:01] <lassegul> anything new with ubuntustudio?
[09:03] <_MMA_> Not really. Im taking a break.
[09:03] <_MMA_> The guys are supposed to be handling things now.
[09:03] <_MMA_> Im fried atm.
[09:03] <lassegul> the guys?
[09:04] <_MMA_> The rest of my team.
[09:04] <lassegul> ok.
[09:09] <lassegul> my laptop shut down when exporting a svg to bitmap earlier tonight, because of CPU temp over 75C. Not too happy about that.
[09:09] <_MMA_> Ouch
[09:10] <lassegul> do you know the danger zone of an intel centrino cpu
[09:10] <_MMA_> I gotta talk to those guys about using multiple CPUs when exporting.
[09:10] <_MMA_> Sorry sir. I do not.
[09:10] <lassegul> _MMA_: that would have been great.
[09:11] <_MMA_> I saw about 6 months ago when exporting it only used 1 core. :(
[09:11] <lassegul> it still is.
[09:13] <_MMA_> Maybe I can talk to its lead at UDS and see if he can do anything about that. ;)
[09:13] <_MMA_> kwwii: Yo! :)
[09:15] <kwwii> _MMA_: hey man
[09:16] <_MMA_> kwwii: What's the chances of strongarming bryce into doing some things for Inkscape?
[09:16] <_MMA_> ie: Dual-core support?
[09:17] <kwwii> lol, good luck
[09:17] <kwwii> I do not think that he really works on inkscape anymore
[09:17] <kwwii> he only does high-level management afaik
[09:17] <_MMA_> gah..
[09:18] <kwwii> but we can just look at him really mean until he complies
[09:18] <kwwii> never underestimate the effect of the old evil eye
[09:18] <lassegul> combined with big blue teary eyes?
[09:19] <_MMA_> kwwii: Got time for Skype or is it too late?
[09:20] <kwwii> _MMA_: taking my (sick) son to bed, maybe after that
[09:20] <_MMA_> ok
[09:20] <_MMA_> I have some KDE4 questions.
[09:20] <_MMA_> :)
 I saw about 6 months ago when exporting it only used 1 core. :(
[10:06] <troy_s> _MMA_: Not easy.  Breaking an image into parts and applying a gaussian blur on the bits such that they seamlessly align is tricky stuffs.
[10:06] <troy_s> _MMA_: Just ask the Blender devs.
[10:31] <hellraiser_rob> evening all
[10:33] <troy_s> greets hellraiser_rob
[10:34] <hellraiser_rob> are everyone's floods under control now?
[10:34] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Who knows.
[10:34] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: You are skilled in the web dev alchemy are you not?
[10:35] <hellraiser_rob> i think it was kwwii that flooded his kitchen earlier
[10:35] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s: i try my best :D
[10:36] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s: can i help?
[10:37] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Side projects, but most certainly I would think.
[10:37] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: What is your site again?
[10:39] <hellraiser_rob> http://www.robertjamesphillips.com
[10:39] <hellraiser_rob> i should put more icons and stuff up really
[10:39] <hellraiser_rob> it's pretty basic at the moment
[10:40] <troy_s> big fan of basic
[10:40] <troy_s> is 'moodalbox' based on moolibs hellraiser_rob ?
[10:41] <hellraiser_rob> mootools
[10:42] <hellraiser_rob> so where you from troy_s ?
[10:43] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Vancouver British Columbia Canada (more or less -- a burb outside)
[10:43] <hellraiser_rob> cool, you still at work?
[10:44] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: I work in one of those silly creative industries -- I work in terms.
[10:44] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Short answer, not today.
[10:44] <hellraiser_rob> that's cool
[10:44] <hellraiser_rob> if only the same were from me
[10:45] <hellraiser_rob> i'm a creative soul trapped in a corporate world
[10:45] <hellraiser_rob> :P
[10:46] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s: so what exactly do you do?
[10:46] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: I work in the motion picture industry and keep creative side projects on the fly.
[10:47] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s, sounds good to me
[10:47] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Vaguely ranging from still photography, motion picture photography in music videos, illustration, and other silly combinations of worthless relevance.
[10:48] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s, i feel you are being modest, sounds very interesting
[10:49] <hellraiser_rob> is anyone else having trouble getting bloody deluge to do anything?
[10:49] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: It can be for about the first two seconds of 'wow' -- then the hard work of execution comes into play and it is just ugly hard work in my estimation.
[10:49] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Use bittornado
[10:49] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: It isn't terribly well designed, but works like a bomb.
[10:49] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s, roger that, thankd
[10:59] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Do you have any other work up onlines?
[11:00] <hellraiser_rob> troy_s, what kind of work are you after?
[11:00] <troy_s> online even (jesus -- onlines sounds like my mother from 25 years ago "You are going out to play 'ataris'"?
[11:00] <troy_s> hellraiser_rob: Anything really... I am always interested to see collections of work of the folks who drop by here.
[11:00] <hellraiser_rob> lol
[11:01] <Misosaki> lols
[11:02] <hellraiser_rob> i'm afraid not at the moment, i had to get my site up in a rush to get a job, but will update it to be complete soon hopefully
[11:04] <hellraiser_rob> anyway i must retire for the night - good evening to you all
[11:06] <Misosaki> laters hellraiser_rob
[11:06] <troy_s> night hellraiser_rob