[01:53] <jpeisach> heyo, ItzSwirlz here. looks like my znc is on zombie (just killed my rpi?) Anyways,
[01:54] <jpeisach> I proposed a patch to port libtimezonemap to libsoup-3 - reviews would be appreciated https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/files/9274106/libsoup3.diff.txt
[01:54] <jpeisach> ill check irc logs, i got to close things down for vacay
[15:34] <KGB-2> glib tags c4de670 Simon McVittie upstream/2.73.3 * Upstream version 2.73.3 * https://deb.li/3ZvRe
[15:34] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 0a8b5ab Simon McVittie * pushed 43 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/AIjI
[15:34] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest ba5e403 Yuri Chornoivan po/uk.po * Update Ukrainian translation * https://deb.li/300vA
[15:34] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 45bdeed Luca Bacci gio/gappinfo.c gio/gwin32appinfo.c glib/gspawn-win32.c * https://deb.li/du4R
[15:34] <KGB-2> GWin32AppInfo: Actually report the GPid in the GAppLaunchContext::launched signal
[15:35] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 0cb43a4 Luca Bacci gio/gappinfo.c gio/gwin32appinfo.c glib/gspawn-win32.c * Merge branch 'g-win32-app-info-launched-signal-actually-report-pid' into 'main' * https://deb.li/3YHzv
[15:35] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 477ff94 Luca Bacci glib/gspawn-win32.c * gspawn-win32: Provide thread-safe wrappers for _wspawn*e functions * https://deb.li/34wDz
[15:35] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest b62745f Christian Hergert glib/gmain.c * gmain: close pidfd when finalizing GChildWatchSource * https://deb.li/ijfss
[15:35] <KGB-2> glib pristine-tar 403ea8e Simon McVittie glib2.0_2.73.3.orig.tar.xz.delta glib2.0_2.73.3.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib2.0_2.73.3.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/iH6U


[14:07] <tseliot> mamarley: I've just tested and uploaded the fix for 340. Thanks!
[14:08] <mamarley> tseliot: Awesome, thanks!
[18:41] <mamarley> soee_: You're sleeping on the job again: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1024243 ;P


[01:16] <AndyP> hey folks, how come it says "Not yet built" for packages that have been built on https://launchpad.net/~andy-price/+packages ?
[01:34] <kiko> AndyP, that's a bug! how weird
[01:36] <AndyP> kiko: want me to open a bug report?
[01:36] <kiko> AndyP, yes, please. that's really weird
[01:36] <AndyP> okie dokie
[01:41] <AndyP> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/130276 - short and sweet
[01:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130276 in launchpad "Packages listed as "Not yet built" when they have been built" [Undecided,New]
[01:42] <kiko> thanks AndyP
[01:42] <kiko> I'll look into it
[01:42] <AndyP> cheers
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #130276 in launchpad "Packages listed as "Not yet built" when they have been built" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130276
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #130285 in launchpad "most active in should disregard deleted projects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130285
[03:22] <sep1318> SteveA: ping
[09:55] <RuN_IN_DesErt> any body here ?
[10:11] <kblin> durnit. I can't find the bug about supporting the google code issue tracker. :)
[10:14] <kblin> ah, there
[10:14] <kblin> always the moment after you ask in IRC :)
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #130403 in launchpad "No Sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130403
[08:53] <jelmer> how long should it take for malone to respond to an email to close a couple of bugs?
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #130408 in malone "Confirmation emails for malone email interface" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130408
[08:55] <jelmer> hmm, weird<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is quicker than<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #130384 in gnome-app-install "Pot file updating not working" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130384
[10:33] <ianm_> I have a few projects in gnome svn, and I'm about to launch a new one, and I'd like to use launchpad for bug tracking, translation, etc.  would it make more sense to put it in gnome svn or can it go directly into launchpad ?
[11:22] <mpt> ianm_, Launchpad can host Bazaar repositories, not Subversion repositories, though it can make a Bazaar mirror of a Subversion branch you have elsewhere
[11:23] <ianm_> I have no strong preference between the two
[11:23] <mpt> jelmer, when you change an existing bug report (by whatever method), Launchpad waits for five minutes in case you make further changes, so it can batch the notifications.
[11:23] <jelmer> mpt: that makes sense, but it would be nice if Bazaar could at least confirm that the commands I gave were valid
[11:24] <mpt> I thought it did the same when you report a new bug, but perhaps it doesn't.
[11:24] <jelmer> I just got hit again by the fact that "  bug 42\n  status fixreleased\n" doesn't work
[11:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 42 in malone "Bug description listed in task is not the correct description" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42 - Assigned to Brad Bollenbach (bradb)
[11:24] <mpt> jelmer, what does Bazaar have to do with it?
[11:24] <jelmer> (because "  affects /products/bzr-svn" is missing)
[11:24] <jelmer> mpt: uhm, s/Bazaar/Launchpad :-)
[11:26] <mpt> ianm_, we don't have strong integration between Launchpad's Bazaar hosting and the rest of Launchpad at the moment, though it will become stronger in the future.
[11:26] <mpt> Currently you can register a branch as fixing a particular bug, and that's about it iirc.
[11:26] <ianm_> mpt: what does that mean, practically speaking?
[11:26] <mpt> It means that it appears on the bug report page, so other people can try it out.
[11:27] <ianm_> mpt: I mean what does the lack of integration mean, what are we losing out on?
[11:27] <ianm_> mpt: it's just the same integration that it has with external repositories?
[11:28] <mpt> jelmer, perhaps we could make that work for bugs that are recording as needing to be fixed in only one place, but that could encourage mistakes when closing bugs that affect multiple packages/projects.
[11:28] <mpt> ianm_, well, nothing comparatively speaking. :-) I don't know of any integration between (for example) Gnome Subversion and Gnome Bugzilla, either.
[11:30] <mpt> jelmer, on the plus side, you can now just say "affects bzr-svn" instead of "affects /products/bzr-svn"
[11:35] <jelmer> mpt: Ah, cool - I didn't know that
[11:35] <jelmer> mpt: I general, I would say that the current syntax is a bit verbose
[11:36] <jelmer> I tend to use scripting to generate these emails, and that's a bad sign :-)
[11:37] <mpt> I'd be interested to read proposals for more concise syntax
[11:40] <jelmer> Something like "fixcommitted 4242 bzr-svn" would make sense to me
[11:40] <jelmer> I would also think that requiring commands to be on top of the email is much nicer, e.g.:
[11:41] <jelmer> fixcommitted 4242 bzr-svn
[11:41] <jelmer> done
[11:41] <jelmer> ... Human-readable reply ...
[11:41] <jelmer> but IIRC think there's already an open bug about that :-)
[11:59] <mpt> I don't understand why requiring commands to be at the beginning is better than having them at the end
[11:59] <mpt> Why not allow them anywhere?
[12:00] <jelmer> makes it harder to quote commands - I got a strange error for example, reporting a bug about the malone email interface


[00:57] <DanaG> argh, for some reason, my rfkill actually kills the wifi card, so I have to reload the iwlagn module to get it back.
[01:28] <DanaG> Intel wireless best for Linux?  Not in my experience.  =(
[02:00] <unavailable> I commend you guys...  coming up for fixes for dang near everything
[02:56] <unavailable> anyone have any idea why my nvidia drivers are gone ??
[02:56] <andersk> Probably bug 308410.
[03:00] <unavailable> so any fix yet?
[03:00] <unavailable> that seems to go to a waiting list
[03:00] <andersk> nvidia has not yet updated their drivers to be compatible with the new Xorg.
[03:01] <andersk> You are welcome to try the 180.18 beta drivers from my PPA: http://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive
[03:01] <andersk> But you will still need to set Option "IgnoreABI" "True" in the "ServerFlags" section of xorg.conf.
[03:09] <woody86> can anyone help me out? When I try to upgrade to jaunty using 'upgrade-manager -d' it won't find the jaunty repos??
[03:11] <woody86> 'update-manager -d' **
[03:12] <unavailable> woody if you have nvidia, and wish to have things work right, you may want to wait.
[03:13] <woody86> well I don't have nvidia :)
[03:14] <andersk> Check your /etc/apt/sources.list.  Perhaps you're set up to use a mirror that doesn't have jaunty?
[03:15] <woody86> that's what I thought, but I have it to the main U.S. Server, does that one have the jaunty mirror?
[03:15] <andersk> us.archive.ubuntu.com?  Yes, that should be fine.
[03:17] <woody86> yup, let me set it again and try it out
[03:20] <woody86> this is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/100765/
[03:21] <unavailable> allright, I rebooted after install... then enabled drivers, do i need to restart the x session again??
[03:22] <andersk> unavailable: is X running or not?
[03:22] <unavailable> yes
[03:22] <unavailable> well, i can see the desktop...
[03:23] <unavailable> but do I need to REstart the session?? as in close it then openit again (restart ubuntu again?)
[03:23] <andersk> If it's working, I don't see why you would need to.
[03:23] <unavailable> i cannot enable effects
[03:24] <andersk> Well, in that case, it's worth a try.
[03:24] <unavailable> is that broken with this build?
[03:24] <andersk> I'm using 180.18 with Compiz, so it should be fine assuming the 180 drivers support your hardware.
[03:25] <andersk> woody86: try commenting out the lines in sources.list that reference jaunty-security and jaunty-updates.  Those don't exist yet.
[03:25] <woody86> andersk-  well thanks :) that seems easy enough
[03:26] <woody86> any idea when they will be enabled?
[03:26] <andersk> After the jaunty release.
[03:26] <woody86> ah, gotcha :)
[03:26] <andersk> Wait, I also see references to "partner" in your log.  That's more likely to be the problem.
[03:27] <woody86> what's that? disable 'partners' too?
[03:30] <woody86> ok, well it's working so far, we'll see if it runs into any other problems
[03:30] <andersk> Sure.  You can try re-enabling those repositories after the upgrade if you need them.
[03:31] <woody86> the 'partner' ones are still enabled right now, but I disabled 'security' and 'updates' and it's working fine now
[03:32] <woody86> *knock on wood*
[03:32] <unavailable> ok.
[03:32] <unavailable> that broke x
[03:33] <unavailable> i rebooted to a tty
[03:34] <andersk> Any useful debugging information will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[03:52] <unavailable> it says that X11 does not exist
[03:54] <andersk> That's an odd error.  Is there more context?
[04:26] <woody86> well, everything seems to be working fine so far :)
[04:28] <woody86> before my comp restarted, it said to run /sbin/lilo but it says "Fatal: Cannot open: /etc/lilo.conf"
[07:40] <naught101> anyone know how I can see what partitions exist on my system without fdisk -l?
[08:36] <pwnguin> anyone else have a wierd problem where clicking on the bookmark menu in firefox opens the bookmark this page dialog?
[08:47] <lucent> I uh just re-covered my OS software recently from a Stupid Human Trick involving rm -fr and a space between '/' with the rest of the path
[08:48] <lucent> now running Jaunty Alpha 2 for the ext4 support in its given Kernel and also for grub2 that has LVM + ext4 support in the repo
[08:48] <lucent> what's still bothering me are the broken apps which do something with ipv6
[08:48] <lucent> now that ipv6 is built-in to the kernel I can't work around by blacklisting the ipv6 module - any tips or advice for me?
[08:53] <lucent> oh, also wondering how do I do an Alternate install from USB stick
[08:53] <lucent> and if a fix has been released yet for X.org
[08:54] <lucent> seems that X.org introduced a bug with firefox such that links trigger unpredictable cursor behavior
[08:56] <x1250> lucent, no fix for X and firefox yet. There's a post on ubuntuforums.org that discusses the ipv6 problem.
[08:57] <lucent> x1250: mind linking?  I've seen a few posts, none address the exact cause of why DNS takes so freaking long to resolve and which apps are broken or why
[08:58] <lucent> most are the tune of "well don't use it lol omg just recompile your kernel duh"
[08:58] <x1250> lucent, I you've read them, then you've read them... :)
[08:58] <lucent> ah
[08:59] <lucent> I'm excited for encrypted home directories to make an introduction
[09:00] <x1250> lucent, have you tried using the usb-creator with the alternate iso?
[09:00] <lucent> x1250: yes, I have and the installer boots but it can't find the cdrom, which is a fatal error
[09:01] <x1250> mmm, maybe you should file a bug report on that.
[09:01] <lucent> if I switch to a console and do some mount trickery, then I get a little further, but it dies because it can't figure out the release code name
[09:01] <lucent> oh
[09:01] <lucent> why? the image is a CD image, not a USB image
[09:02] <x1250> it can be whatever you want it to be, if you file a bug report.
[09:03] <lucent> hm.  I'd rather not pollute the bug tracker
[09:03] <x1250> well, your choice, but eventually someone will...
[09:04] <lucent> actually I'm hoping for a way to do an installation to a single LVM partition
[09:04] <lucent> to get my all-in-LVM setup I had to install the traditional way, then do my administration task from a livecd usb boot environment
[09:04] <lucent> it works though
[09:05] <lucent> x1250: what is the x.org / firefox bug anyways?
[09:06] <lucent> growing pains, or is it a regression
[09:07] <x1250> on the bug report someone said it was X's fault, and that a patch was available for the next release, but who knows... :)
[12:36] <rbrunhuber> I have jaunty with the nv driver on a thinkpad t61p with nvidia quadro fx 570m. And i have massive problems with kde4.2.
[12:37] <rbrunhuber> The run program and the kde start menu are no painted and a lot of pictures in firefox are not shown. can anyone confirm this?
[12:37] <BUGabundo_work> rbrunhuber: there is no suporte for proprieatry drivers currently on jaunty
[12:39] <rbrunhuber> BUGabundo_work: I know that is why I'm using the "nv" and not the "nvidia" driver.
[12:39] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[12:39] <BUGabundo_work> miss read
[12:40] <rbrunhuber> BUGabundo_work: That is also the problem with my google queries. Google seems to treat the two terms like synonyms
[12:41] <BUGabundo_work> yeah
[13:05] <Hew> pwnguin: bug 187313
[14:16] <k4_> is this the dev channel for ubuntu ?
[14:22] <BUGabundo_work> k4_: yes
[14:23] <k4_> my atheros card does not work anymore with 9.04 , is this the right place ?
[14:23] <k4_> the ath9k driver does not support it, and 2.6.28 does not have the ath5k driver anymore
[16:13] <jnubuntu> when i try to update ubuntu, it asks me to REMOVE upstart, ubuntu-minamil, startup-tasks, system-services.
[16:13] <jnubuntu> and asks me to install sysvinit
[16:14] <BUGabundo_work> jnubuntu: don't FORCE the upgrade!
[16:15] <BUGabundo_work> use update-manager to upgrade safely
[16:15] <BUGabundo_work> and don't do parcial updates!!!
[16:17] <mvo> jnubuntu: with what tool do you get this?
[16:17] <jnubuntu> synaptic
[16:17] <mvo> jnubuntu: jaunty? or intrepid? or intrepid->jaunty?
[16:17] <jnubuntu> jaunty
[16:18] <BUGabundo_work> I think its Xorg mess!
[16:24] <jnubuntu> apt-get upgrade doesn't try to remove those or install sysvinit
[17:00] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[17:00] <Cpudan80> I am currently working on Interpid -- but I need to download the source for wpa_supplicant for JJ
[17:00] <Cpudan80> how can I do that...?
[18:28] <unavailable> allright, yesterday... i noted that the xorg broke my nvidia, and someone here directed me to a beta nvidia.
[18:28] <unavailable> well.
[18:28] <unavailable> that broke x
[18:29] <unavailable> totally,   startx  results in an invalid path error
[18:38] <CarlFK> unavailable: pretty sure x/nvid needs an update from nvid
[18:39] <unavailable> yes but how do I update from cli without x??
[18:39] <CarlFK> i have a gf2, needs v96.  I was told downgrade x or wait for nv to release a new binary
[18:39] <CarlFK> unavailable: my guess: apt-get install xorg
[18:39] <unavailable> no net connection
[18:39] <CarlFK> I think that will un install the conflicting nvidia package
[18:39] <unavailable> even though the cable is in
[18:40] <CarlFK> ifup eth0
[18:40] <CarlFK> more guessing, but this is the stuff I would try...
[18:40] <unavailable> i think i'm just gonna drop back down to intrepid for a while...
[18:41] <unavailable> there's nothing too important on that install anyway.
[18:41] <CarlFK> do you know if the nv driver will let me switch to the svid port?
[18:41] <CarlFK> don't need both ports, just the svid is fine
[19:39] <x1250> Cpudan80, you need to add the jaunty "main" repository to /etc/apt/sources.list, then: apt-get update && apt-get -t jaunty source wpasupplicant. But if you really don't need the source and just the deb package (binary), then do a: apt-get -t jaunty install wpasupplicant
[19:41] <x1250> Cpudan80, you may need to add other jaunty repositories, depending on wpasupplicant dependencies, and where are they (in what repo)
[19:43] <x1250> oh, I missed sudo.
[19:43] <Cpudan80> heh
[19:43] <Cpudan80> I figured that much
[19:43] <Cpudan80> But that sounds dangerous
[19:43] <Cpudan80> as I am on an Intrepid install and dont want to break it
[19:45] <x1250> well, its the safest way of getting a jaunty deb package... :)
[19:53] <x1250> Cpudan80, note that doing all of that will not upgrade your box to jaunty. To get a package from jaunty you need to use the "-t jaunty" part, so it is pretty safe. It will only get wpasupplicant and its dependencies.
[20:10] <karlp> hi
[20:10] <karlp> i can't get flash to work
[20:11] <karlp> i do aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree and i get this
[20:11] <karlp> download or license refused
[20:11] <karlp> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:12] <x1250> karlp, what version of flashplugin-nonfree ? apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[20:13] <karlp> hmm, aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree and aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree seemed to install it
[20:13] <karlp> i'll see if firefox works with any flash sites (i.e. youtube) again
[20:13] <karlp> it's the latest one. <IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu3 or something
[20:14] <karlp> nvm works now
[20:14] <karlp> anyway, i don't get why ubuntu does these releases. i always have breakage with every update, so i just try (in spite of all warnings contrary) to use the latest
[20:15] <lucent> karlp: I would do dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[20:15] <karlp> i used to stick with the 6 month releases but i got burned by dapper -> edgy, then again from edgy -> feisty (to a lesser degree). feisty -> hardy was a lot better, but i was hoping for kde 4.1 so i went with hardy -> intrepid almost immediately
[20:15] <Pici> karlp: If you are using Jaunty (Which is what this channel is for) then you should be expecting breakage.
[20:15] <karlp> intrepid -> jaunty at least looks a lot nicer
[20:15] <lucent> karlp: or apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree; apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[20:16] <lucent> looks nicer?
[20:16] <lucent> it looks the same
[20:16] <karlp> er, kde at least. i don't use gnome
[20:16] <karlp> anyway problem resolved, back to work


[11:40] <morantron> hi! i'm trying to run "netplan try" on a server, but i keep getting the following error "subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['udevadm', 'settle']' returned non-zero exit status 1.", any tips on how to debug this? thanks!
[11:41] <schopin> morantron: does netplan --debug try give you any more info?
[11:51] <morantron> just tried, not sure it's giving more relevant info -> https://gist.github.com/Morantron/bf7e01de9d273e9d5f517cd779ab5da9
[11:52] <morantron> udevadm settle does indeed return 1, but i think that's what it is expected to do
[12:14] <schopin> We really should systematically capture stdout/stderr on our external calls...
[12:18] <schopin> morantron: what I'd do is just insert `import pdb; pdb.set_trace()` in /usr/share/netplan/netplan/cli/commands/apply.py just above the `subprocess.check_call(['udevadm', 'settle'])`, and when the trace point triggers, just run the command manually in another shell. That should give you more info.
[13:22] <morantron> thanks schopin, i'm gonna give it a try
[13:29] <morantron> yep, running "udevadm settle" or even "uvedadm --debug settle" does not give any extra info, it just takes 2 minutes, timesout and exits with code 1
[13:30] <schopin> nothing in journactl?
[13:31] <morantron> oh well, i think i might have an unrelated hardware proble or something, that is messing with the udev queue
[13:32] <morantron> *problem
[13:32] <morantron> thanks for your help schopin
[13:35] <schopin> You're welcome.
[16:41] <Church> Hey folks, qq. When configuring the routes under a tunnel, for the via param. Can I just pass the name of the device? Or leave that param blank?
[16:42] <Church> I often write the static route as: `sudo ip r a <IP_ADDRESS>/22 dev ipsec0`
[16:52] <schopin> Church: you mean that your subnet is reachable directly via your tunnel, without having to do a hop? Omitting the via should work. You might have to add on-link: true, thoug.
[16:55] <Church> Yep, I'll give that a try then.
[17:04] <Church> schopin: Hmm secondary qq, is there an example of using the key param to the tunnel type?
[17:05] <schopin> Church: I believe you'll find what you need there: https://netplan.io/reference/#properties-for-device-type-tunnels%3A


[09:23] <issa> I have installed edubuntu on 20 student computers, and the teacher's computer as well .... i tried to setup epoptes but no luck any help ?
[09:24] <alkisg> issa: did you follow the installation page?
[09:24] <alkisg> http://www.epoptes.org/installation
[09:24] <alkisg> If so, at which point are you having problems?
[09:25] <issa> i thought that it is shipped by default
[09:26] <alkisg> Ah sorry I didn't try out the default installation recently
[09:27] <alkisg> So up until now, you basically didn't do anything related to installing epoptes/epoptes-client?
[09:27] <alkisg> No key transferring etc?
[09:28] <issa> no
[09:28] <issa> correct me if i am wrong ... teacher's pc must run epoptes, each student pc must run epoptes-client
[09:29] <alkisg> Right, but the epoptes public keys need to be transfered to the client computers, and also an /etc/hosts entry needs to be added
[09:30] <alkisg> AFAIK in edubuntu it only works out of the box for ltsp (remotely booted computers)
[09:30] <alkisg> For standalone clients like yours, you need to follow some parts of the installation page I pasted above, especially the keys transferring part
[09:31] <alkisg> So, on a client, put "ip-of-teacher-ip server" in /etc/hosts, and then run: sudo epoptes-client -c
[09:31] <alkisg> *ip-of-teacher-pc
[09:31] <alkisg> E.g. <IP_ADDRESS> server
[09:31] <issa> great, do i need any special configuration on the teacher's pc ?
[09:32] <alkisg> No, just to add the teacher in the epoptes group and logout/login for the change to take effect
[09:33] <issa> thanks a lot .... i will try it later on today :)
[09:33] <alkisg> Remember to put the word "server" there, not the actual hostname of the teacher pc
[09:33] <issa> ok
[09:34] <alkisg> If it doesn't work with the first try, read the installation page for more details, or come back here :)