[08:54] <hawk`> i cant find admin anywhere
[08:54] <surfdue> how do i move it so i can select them?
[08:54] <thegladiator> _jason, now can get back to installing java ?
[08:54] <hawk`> or is it global or something?
[08:54] <psusi> ubuntu: plug in a second soudn card
[08:54] <jessemans> hawk`: sudo = admin ?
[08:54] <surfdue> it is past the top i cant more or x or minimise
[08:54] <surfdue> heh
[08:54] <surfdue> kinda stuck :(
[08:55] <_jason> thegladiator, yes, but I think you should consider enabling the updates and securities repos
[08:55] <ubuntuman> psusi, why a second card its a new pc windows also plays sound in many programms
[08:55] <mynameis> ubuntuman, k3b is istalling now
[08:55] <VictorI> sudo su (your user password) , then passwd root ... done
[08:55] <Seveas> brb
[08:55] <ubuntuman> mynameis, ok good luck !!
[08:55] <thegladiator> _jason, ok but can i do it using the settings menu , if yes , why didnt it work with multiverse ? i checked corresponding to that
[08:55] <sethk> VictorI, you must love to type.  :)   just do:    sudo passwd
[08:55] <psusi> ubuntuman: you aren't making much sense... you asked how to add a second /dev/dsp... /dev/dsp is the interface to your sound card.. if you want a second sound card, plug one in
[08:56] <_jason> thegladiator, you only enabled multiverse for backports
[08:56] <VictorI> sethk, oh well.. your right...
[08:56] <thegladiator> !info restricted
[08:56] <hawk`> whats the number for in the /etc/group file?
[08:56] <kwyjibo> !ping
[08:56] <ubotu> pong
[08:56] <juliux> i can someone help me with a xorg problem?
[08:56] <jessemans> !groups
[08:56] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, jessemans
[08:56] <jessemans> blah!
[08:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell juliux about ask
[08:56] <jessemans> !group
[08:56] <ubotu> jessemans: Not a clue
[08:56] <psusi> hawk`: it's the gid of the group
[08:56] <thegladiator> _jason, i see , i am not sure i saw another multiverse in that menu . does it exist besides this one ?
[08:56] <jessemans> !botsnack anyway
[08:56] <ubotu> thanks jessemans :)
[08:56] <ubuntuman> psusi, when i playes games on my old pc i always had 4 or 5 dsp channels but since i have a new pc i havent, and yes my old pc had only 1 soundcard
[08:56] <VictorI> well I am fairly impressed with ubuntu, this is how debian should be.
[08:56] <thegladiator> !info java
[08:56] <surfdue> whats the latest ubuntu?
[08:56] <surfdue> i thought it was breezy?
[08:57] <jessemans> hawk`: not sure
[08:57] <hawk`> psusi, that's what i thought, where can i find the gid of admin?
[08:57] <hawk`> its not in that file
[08:57] <VictorI> breezy
[08:57] <oxez> surfdue: it is
[08:57] <ubuntuman> psusi, this doesnt make sense
[08:57] <surfdue> whats dapper
[08:57] <_jason> thegladiator, it should be there now
[08:57] <surfdue> lol
[08:57] <thegladiator> how do i get that restricted format page ?
[08:57] <thegladiator> ok
[08:57] <oxez> surfdue: the development version
[08:57] <psusi> ubuntuman: not sure what you mean by 4 or 5 dsp channels...
[08:57] <VictorI> just to confirm, is dapper the next release? or its -current/unstable ?
[08:57] <oxez> surfdue: this is going to be the next version, in april
[08:57] <surfdue> is there a diffrence from breezy or 5.10
[08:57] <juliux> ok i try to activate my vga out at my nx6110 but i only get this error message:  kernel: [4296198.983000]  video bus notify
[08:57] <oxez> surfdue: no
[08:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell thegladiator about restricted
[08:57] <surfdue> cuase ati says both?
[08:57] <juliux> with the live cd it works
[08:57] <VictorI> same thing
[08:57] <mynameis> ubuntuman, k3b gave me an error such as it needs cdrdao wonder if thats why the gnome way didnt work
[08:57] <ubuntuman> psusi, when i play games like enemy-territory i could tell it to use the /dev/dsp for sound
[08:58] <zandaa> can anyone help me solve a problem concerning USB device mounting?
[08:58] <kwyjibo> help please?
[08:58] <oxez> surfdue: it's Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10, where 5.10 = version (October 5th (5.10)), and breeze badger the codename
[08:58] <ubuntuman> mynameis, ok try downloading it
[08:58] <oxez> err, Octoboer 2005
[08:58] <jrattner1> oxez, shouldnt it be 10.5 then?
[08:58] <psusi> hawk`: my admin group is gid: 106
[08:58] <mynameis> ubuntuman, already pass that :)
[08:58] <oxez> jrattner1: It's Last Digit of Year.Month
[08:59] <ubuntuman> mynameis, ok and ?? working ??
[08:59] <oxez> jrattner1: I confused myself :P
[08:59] <jrattner1> oxez, ah
[08:59] <psusi> ubuntuman: : yea... and that's what you should do... so what's the problem?
[08:59] <hawk`> yeh sorry about that, i just didnt see it
[08:59] <thegladiator> i am trying to install sdk and jre , so what shud be the entry correspondging to this one --------->fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[08:59] <thegladiator> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb ?
[08:59] <hawk`> my vision is becoming blurry
[08:59] <hawk`> :P
[08:59] <ubuntuman> psusi, ma sound is the problem
[08:59] <thegladiator> the file name of sdk is >jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[09:00] <psusi> ubuntuman: why?  it doesn't work?
[09:00] <ubuntuman> psusi, i can only use 1 dsp for eg. xmms but not for the game it doesnt recognize or something
[09:00] <juliux> has anybody an idea? i dont want to reinstall my laptop
[09:00] <psusi> ubuntuman: you mean you can't have sound in the game and play xmms at the same time?
[09:00] <thegladiator> has anyone installed java sdk instaed of jre ?
[09:00] <kwyjibo> help, please.
[09:01] <ubuntuman> psusi, als if i close xmms i still have no sound in my game
[09:01] <ubuntuman> psusi, i only hear a little crackle
[09:01] <psusi> ubuntuman: what if you start the game without xmms running?
[09:01] <icebreaker> is there a software which can edit password protected pdf files?
[09:01] <pipeline> thegladiator: the sdk is a superset of the jre --- it includes everything in the jre and then some.
[09:01] <XiCillin> WHere do i add new mouse icons?
[09:01] <XiCillin> what direcory?
[09:01] <ubuntuman> psusi, i started without xmms running
[09:01] <ubuntuman> psusi, doesnt work
[09:01] <thegladiator> yeah pipeline , it does ...but how do i go with the installation ?
[09:01] <pipeline> thegladiator: The output of make-jpkg may have a weird package name, and that's OK.
[09:02] <hawk`> aah
[09:02] <pipeline> thegladiator: run make-jpkg with the jdk ".bin" installer as the argument.
[09:02] <hawk`> beautiful
[09:02] <psusi> ubuntuman: not sure what to tell you then... other than that you are barking up the wrong tree if you think you need a second /dev/dsp
[09:02] <hawk`> sudo works again
[09:02] <hawk`> thanks guys
[09:02] <hawk`> :)
[09:02] <kwyjibo> i need to make both ssh client and ssh server speak in the same ascii codepage. can someone help me?
[09:02] <pipeline> thegladiator: then just install the new package with dpkg and remove the old one.
[09:02] <thegladiator> pipeline, it goes over my head
[09:02] <deltron> kwyjibo: I don't know, but awesome name :P
[09:02] <jiranya> how could i install birt
[09:02] <thegladiator> could you please clarify again ?
[09:02] <ubuntuman> psusi, ok but why i could use another /dev/dsp like /dev/dsp2 on my old system and had sound ?? this makes no sense to me
[09:03] <thegladiator> i am following the instructions from the site given
[09:03] <jiranya> in eclipse
[09:03] <kwyjibo> :(
[09:03] <hawk`> think i'll leave root enabled for now
[09:03] <hawk`> what a farce
[09:03] <_jason> thegladiator, there are .debs available for java too
[09:03] <thegladiator> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[09:03] <thegladiator> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb is what the site says
[09:03] <thegladiator> i see
[09:03] <psusi> ubuntuman: I'm not sure what you mean on your old system... one sound card = one /dev/dsp
[09:03] <thegladiator> sun's java ?
[09:04] <thegladiator> i have the source file with me
[09:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell thegladiator about javadebs
[09:04] <_jason> thegladiator, yes, sun's
[09:04] <thegladiator> i see
[09:04] <Duvel> !botsnack
[09:04] <ubotu> :)
[09:04] <cremate> whats the best way to install java?  from apt?
[09:04] <thommym> Where do I find a gcc bootstrap for Breezy Badger when I don't have net access on that particular machine?
[09:04] <ubuntuman> psusi, oo no 1 sound card doesnt mean only 1 /dev/dsp | i once had an old Pentium III with only 1 soundcard and had also 4 or 5 /dev/dsps
[09:04] <cremate> id like the jdk as well
[09:04] <cremate> and the browser plugin
[09:05] <jiranya> how could i install birt
[09:05] <jiranya> in eclipse
[09:05] <psusi> ubuntuman: that sounds really fscked up... normally each sound card gets one /dev/dsp
[09:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell cremate about java
[09:05] <HappyFool> thommym: you need gcc-3.4 ? gcc-4.0 (or similar) is on the install cd
[09:05] <cremate> i know about java
[09:06] <cremate> !javadebs
[09:06] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[09:06] <cremate> ?
[09:06] <melodramatic> hi... is there any skype package in ubuntu?
[09:06] <ubuntuman> psusi, well i use linux for about 4 years now and never had this problem | i normally used mandrake linux and they really had more than only 1 /dev/dsp
[09:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell melodramatic about skype
[09:06] <thommym> HappyFool: Couldn't find it on the CD that came with a LINUX mgazine I bought...
[09:06] <sethk> ubuntuman, you are drawing an incorrect conclusion.  Yes, there are some unusual multichannel boards that create more than one dsp device.  That does NOT MEAN that your machine is not correctly configured.
[09:06] <NCLife> !javadebs
[09:06] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[09:06] <psusi> ubuntuman: weird... I've never seen that... one device should be enough for one sound card
[09:07] <Duvel> yes, apt-get install skype :p
[09:07] <HappyFool> thommym: hmm. standard ubuntu install should have the 'build-essential' and related packages, including gcc
[09:07] <melodramatic> haaa thx a l ot _jason
[09:07] <maddash> cls
[09:07] <ubuntuman> psusi, ok but how can i get sound in my game ??
[09:07] <kwyjibo> i need to make both ssh client and ssh server speak in the same ascii codepage. can someone help me?
[09:07] <napsy> js mam eno sliko
[09:07] <MickMcMack> !setting the default window manager
[09:07] <thegladiator> pipleline > instaed of this what shud i give ? sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb ?
[09:07] <ubotu> MickMcMack: Syntax error in line 1
[09:07] <surfdue> http://pastebin.com/464176
[09:07] <HappyFool> thommym: try installing the build-essential package (using synaptic or apt-get)
[09:07] <surfdue> pelase help look at the pastebin
[09:07] <MickMcMack> =_=
[09:07] <ubuntuman> sethk, how can i get sound in my game with only 1 /dev/dsp
[09:07] <jrattner1> What is skype
[09:07] <MickMcMack> !window manager
[09:07] <ubotu> MickMcMack: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:07] <jrattner1> ?
[09:07] <MickMcMack> :|
[09:07] <MickMcMack> !wm
[09:07] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, MickMcMack
[09:07] <MickMcMack> !fluxbox
[09:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[09:08] <_jason> ubotu, tell MickMcMack about yourself
[09:08] <thommym> HappyFool: OK. Have to find deeper then. "find /cdrom -name gcc" I suppose
[09:08] <MickMcMack> _jason, I know - I was looking for something in specific. :-\
[09:08] <sethk> ubuntuman, the same way everyone else does.  I have no idea what you are asking.  If there is a configuration parameter asking for the dsp device, tell it /dev/dsp.  Otherwise ask a specific question, don't tell use what you've (erroneously) _concluded_ from what you see.  Tell us what you see.
[09:08] <_jason> MickMcMack, you can /msg him
[09:09] <_jason> MickMcMack, and if you read the link he sent you, you can search his database
[09:09] <hawk`> err, now what
[09:09] <thegladiator> pipeline, could you please enlighthe me on this : thegladiator: then just install the new package with dpkg and remove the old one. ?
[09:09] <hawk`> usermod: unable to lock password file?
[09:09] <HappyFool> thommym: you'll have a (small) bit of dependency hell. you've tried 'apt-cache search gcc' with no hits ?
[09:09] <pipeline> thegladiator: make-jpg will produce a ".deb" format package.
[09:09] <pirao> hola
[09:09] <ubuntuman> psusi, i have configured my enemy-terreitory to use the /dev/dsp as sound device but i can t hear anything. i only run enemy-territory
[09:09] <NCLife> To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to.. i dont understand that.. how do i open a terminal?
[09:09] <pirao> alguien abla espaol
[09:09] <sethk> hawk`, you left a program running that has the password file open, probably
[09:09] <pipeline> thegladiator: install that using dpkg.  Then open up synaptic and remove the j2re package you created before.
[09:10] <thegladiator> i see
[09:10] <sethk> pirao, va a ubuntu.es
[09:10] <NCLife> and what does cd to the directory you dl them to means..
[09:10] <hawk`> sethk, that was my thought too, but i just booted 2 minutes ago
[09:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell NCLife about cli
[09:10] <MickMcMack> Is it me, or does Ubuntu not feel the love for enlightenment? O_o;
[09:10] <sethk> hawk`, Might be a leftover lock file in /tmp
[09:10] <Dangermouse> What's the best way for me to edit my MAC address on start-up?
[09:11] <sethk> hawk`, I'd suggest using strace to find out what file it fails to lock, but I suspect you might have trouble doing that.
[09:11] <sethk> hawk`, erase everything in /tmp (and it's subdirectories) older than the reboot time.
[09:11] <Duvel> NCLife, press alt and F2, type xterm, enter, type cd nameofthedirectory
[09:11] <czr> dangermouse, use ifconfig to change mac and then learn how the startup process works and add to the network init part the call for ifconfig
[09:12] <hawk`> sethk i can sudo now so maybe i can use strace?
[09:12] <czr> Dangermouse, man interfaces, man ifconfig
[09:12] <hawk`> never heard of it
[09:12] <hawk`> :P
[09:12] <Dangermouse> czr, ye I know about ifconfig, was the latter part i wasn't sure of
[09:12] <czr> interfaces might be the best place to put the call in
[09:12] <czr> Dangermouse, that way you could be sure that your eth exists when you're trying to set its MAC
[09:12] <Dangermouse> ok
[09:13] <hawk`> it sounds complicated though, so that's probably what you meant
[09:13] <hawk`> :P
[09:13] <NCLife> ok, thanks Duvel.. ive got another question, at this page http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ are 4 sun java packages.. which one should i dl?
[09:13] <sethk> hawk`, then  sudo strace usermod  ....   (whatever you typed before for usermod) ...  -o output.strace
[09:13] <sethk> hawk`, output.strace is just a filename I made up
[09:13] <wick3d> yay the roockie n00b is here
[09:13] <sethk> hawk`, make it ~/output.strace, so it ends up in your home directory
[09:14] <surfdue> hey
[09:14] <sethk> hawk`, if it spawns child processes that won't be enough, but start there.
[09:14] <wick3d> just installed Ubuntu first time ever with any sort of linux system for me:(
[09:14] <surfdue> i have linux sources installed on command 'sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel' it states an error cant find kernal headers how do i fix this
[09:14] <ubuntuman> psusi, thx 4 youre help sofar
[09:14] <aris_> aaaah
[09:15] <corresponder> bbbbbbh
[09:15] <sethk> surfdue, install the kernel headers.
[09:15] <Duvel> wick3d, congratulations ;)
[09:15] <surfdue> k
[09:15] <aris_> is there an equivalent to that sun packages for amd64 ?
[09:15] <theD3viL> WTF is wrong with my fglrx drivers?!?!  i get ~250 fps with fgl_glxgears
[09:15] <aris_> just spend 30mb download for nothing :/
[09:15] <_jason> hawk`, did you sudo usermod?
[09:15] <jemt> !tell jemt about w32codecs
[09:16] <hawk`> sethk, got the output printed on screen
[09:16] <hawk`> _jason trying t odo that now, saying that the password file is locked
[09:16] <bulio> if I install a usb 2.0 PCI card
[09:16] <bulio> will ubuntu recognize it?
[09:16] <theD3viL> bulio, yes
[09:16] <_jason> hawk`, oh ok because it gave me that error and I realized I had to use sudo
[09:16] <jemt> !tell jemt about w32codecs
[09:17] <sethk> hawk`, you didn't use -o, then
[09:17] <bulio> secondly, can I install an external hard drive?
[09:17] <hawk`> sethk, looks like an o from here
[09:17] <hawk`> :P
[09:17] <bulio> I wanna use it as storage
[09:17] <bulio> connected via the usb 2.0
[09:17] <hawk`> _jason yea tried that, didnt give me an error, but didnt do anything either
[09:17] <bulio> can I do that?
[09:17] <_jason> hawk`, what's the exact command you are using?
[09:17] <FarrisG> I need to reorder my /dev/sd* nodes. What is the quickest, or least messy, way to do this? All that's important is that the drives using my onboard SATA bus and/or PCI-X raid card get assigned /dev/sd* nodes first, and then after that, USB disks get assigned nodes sequentially
[09:17] <sethk> bulio, yes, yes, and yes
[09:18] <bulio> excellent thanks
[09:18] <chrisx1> Seveas: niggah:o wha was that for
[09:18] <hawk`> usermod -G a,lot,of,groups hawk
[09:19] <_jason> hawk`, strange, ok carry on :) gl
[09:19] <Seveas> chrisx1, for having a stupid away announce script
[09:19] <hawk`> oh
[09:19] <chrisx1> umm...
[09:19] <hawk`> dunno what happened now
[09:19] <hawk`> but it works
[09:19] <hawk`> when i ran the strace as root
[09:19] <hawk`> :)
[09:20] <MickMcMack> * Seveas
[09:20] <j2daosh> hey everyone
[09:20] <corresponder> hi
[09:20] <hawk`> thanks for all your help guys
[09:20] <j2daosh> how yall doing today?
[09:20] <hawk`> i'll just log out now and hope nothing more is broken
[09:20] <hawk`> :)
[09:20] <_jason> hawk`, ha
[09:21] <TenPlus1> Hi folks...
[09:21] <j2daosh> hey i got 2 questions... how does bit torrent work, and where is a repo for WINE?
[09:21] <hawk`> sigh
[09:21] <hawk`> and what i set out to do still doesnt work
[09:21] <Seveas> j2daosh, 1) see bittorent.com 2) UBuntu multiverse
[09:21] <hawk`> i've been fixing my errors for two hours
[09:21] <hawk`> :)
[09:21] <TenPlus1> Q.) Ubuntu 5.10 has found my Intel Easy PC Camera ..but.. when GnomeMeeting goes to use it, it stalls the system and a reboot is needed... any ideas ???
[09:21] <j2daosh> multiverse?
[09:22] <j2daosh> <-- only had linux for 4 days
[09:22] <dr_willis> TenPlus1,  yep.. i have similer problem with my CreativeWebcam
[09:22] <j2daosh> has only had...
[09:22] <dr_willis> TenPlus1,  no idea on a fix
[09:22] <TenPlus1> bummer...
[09:22] <Seveas> !tell j2daosh about multiverse
[09:22] <j2daosh> yes... lol tell me :)
[09:22] <sethk> hey, my customized initrd is working, finally.  :)
[09:22] <NCLife> wich one should i dl? -> sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+09_i386.deb or sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:22] <Seveas> j2daosh, ubotu told you in a private msg
[09:23] <Seveas> NCLife, neither, they are outdated
[09:23] <Duvel> !tell me about cron
[09:23] <neiras> I have been asked to install a Dapper kernel in a Breezy install. Since I don't want to upgrade to Dapper, is this possible?
[09:23] <NCLife> >.< so where should i dl the sun java from?
[09:23] <Duvel> !tell me about crontab
[09:23] <MickMcMack> A Dapper kernel?
[09:23] <MickMcMack> NCLife, the sdk ?
[09:23] <stuart_> Could someone post a link on how to install KDE on Ubuntu
[09:23] <Seveas> NCLife, I sent you a private message
[09:23] <neiras> MickMcMack: Yes. A kernel package from the upcoming Dapper release
[09:24] <Seveas> stuart_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <Seveas> done.
[09:24] <ajmitch> morning
[09:24] <corresponder> hi
[09:24] <TenPlus1> Can someone give me an /etc/network/interfaces setup for a wireless card that works ok ?
[09:24] <NCLife> thanks seveas
[09:24] <MickMcMack> :s
[09:24] <juliux> can someon help me with this error message? [4297060.659000]  video bus notify
[09:24] <NCLife> MickMcMack, no, the jre..
[09:24] <Dangermouse> this seems to work (set mac + use dhcp): iface eth0 inet dhcp \n inet eth0 hwaddr ether <mac>
[09:25] <wick3d> is it hard to kompilate the kernel for my specifik hardware in ubuntu? remember ive never ever tried linux in any form
[09:25] <Seveas> wick3d, then you should not recompile the kernel
[09:26] <wick3d> kk
[09:26] <Seveas> juliux, that's not an error message
[09:26] <sethk> wick3d, it isn't hard.  You might have to ask a few questions.  Read a howto, devote an hour or two, and practice on a system that you can stand breaking
[09:26] <kwyjibo> well.
[09:26] <wick3d> just seems that the comp is a bit slow compaired to when i had XP on it
[09:26] <kwyjibo> thanks for ignoring me.
[09:26] <juliux> Seveas, this is the only message i get if i try to use my vga out
[09:26] <juliux> Seveas, with the ubutnu live cd it works
[09:27] <kwyjibo> for representing the most friendly linux distro, you sure do know how to be unfriendly to people.
[09:27] <MickMcMack> kwyjibo, no-one here is payed to answer your questions. :S
[09:27] <LoppApan> kwyjibo: u sure we are official representatives?
[09:27] <Seveas> !tell kwyjibo about attitude
[09:27] <kwyjibo> i have been asking politely and i've not even been acknowledged
[09:27] <vanten> anyone running the 64 bit version of (k)ubuntu?
[09:28] <LoppApan> kwyjibo: ask again, maybe this time someone will answer
[09:28] <Seveas> !tell vanten about anyone
[09:28] <kwyjibo> :(
[09:28] <aris_> kwyjibo, i've look in 3 windows of logs and didn't find your question
[09:28] <sethk> kwyjibo, I didn't even see your question.  It gets busy here.
[09:28] <kwyjibo> i've asked it 4 times
[09:28] <sethk> kwyjibo, nobody is deliberately ignoring you.  just ask again.
[09:28] <kwyjibo> i'll ask:
[09:28] <_jason> Kwitschibo, probably because no one knows or we just didn't see the question
[09:28] <_jason> oops
[09:28] <kwyjibo> i am trying to get my SSH client and SSH server to use the same codepage
[09:28] <MickMcMack> vanten, I am.
[09:28] <vanten> Seveas: :)
[09:28] <kwyjibo> i cannot find anywhere in man pages how to set the codepage on the server side
[09:29] <Seveas> kwyjibo, then let your client forward the LC_* and LANG variables
[09:29] <LoppApan> kwyjibo: I'm watching wvil dead here at the same time, a bit distracted so to speak...
[09:29] <MickMcMack> vanten, *poke*
[09:29] <lucis> I'm using gnome and want to switch to KDE. What do i need to do? anything special besides uninstall gnome and install KDE?
[09:29] <Seveas> lucis, no
[09:29] <sethk> lucis, no need to uninstall gnome
[09:29] <mjr> lucis, nothing special, just install kubuntu-desktop. Recommend against uninstalling gnome.
[09:29] <LoppApan> kwyjibo: but Seveas is on to something I think
[09:29] <kwyjibo> sev: I do not understand how to do that. I am using Putty for win32, ssh'ing to a ubuntu server
[09:29] <sethk> lucis, a bad idea, actually
[09:29] <lucis> Alright, thanks.
[09:30] <vanten> MickMcMack: i'm running gentoo all 64 bit now. a real hassle to get closed source browser plugins to work. like flash player, java plugin,...  do they work on (k)ubuntu 64?
[09:30] <kwyjibo> I have set Putty to use every codepage under the sun
[09:30] <mjr> (but if you want, try something like sudo apt-get remove libgnome2-common)
[09:30] <juliux> Seveas, what is it if it is no kernel error?
[09:30] <Dreamglider> lucis,  at login you simply chose to use KDE session instead of GNOME
[09:30] <Seveas> kwyjibo, ah, don't know how to configure putty for that
[09:30] <lucis> Thanks, dreamglider, et al.
[09:30] <kwyjibo> i don't think it's putty that's the problem
[09:30] <MickMcMack> vanten, they should do, but my sound is borked, so I'm not sure.
[09:30] <kwyjibo> perhaps if I understood just what determines the server side codepage
[09:30] <sethk> kwyjibo, does your putty client work with codepages with other servers?
[09:30] <Seveas> juliux, a message that to me sounds like a notification and which I can't say anything more useful about, sorryt
[09:30] <kwyjibo> sethk: i only have this one server
[09:30] <MickMcMack> vanten, the plugin installs fine, and FireFox picks it up - it just wont play swf's due to my soundserver being totally borked.
[09:31] <Seveas> kwyjibo, usually the client
[09:31] <juliux> Seveas, ok thanks
[09:31] <Seveas> but the locale has to be installed at the server
[09:31] <sethk> kwyjibo, it's determined by your client requesting it.  Why in the world would you assume that the client is not involved?
[09:31] <kwyjibo> it's like every application on the server looks different
[09:31] <Dreamglider> wich one required more cpu/ram Gnome or KDE ?
[09:31] <Seveas> kwyjibo, try on the server: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:31] <sethk> kwyjibo, when you don't know something, investigate, don't make an assumption with no data to back it up.
[09:31] <kwyjibo> midnight commander uses one character set....... centericq uses another. elinks uses yet another.
[09:31] <kwyjibo> it's chaos
[09:32] <Seveas> kwyjibo, try on the server: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales <--
[09:32] <kwyjibo> ok one second
[09:32] <djk_> vanten: there is no java plugin for 64bit..
[09:32] <sethk> kwyjibo, that sounds like you have a problem totally unrelated to ssh
[09:32] <kwyjibo> ooh
[09:33] <darksun> where is the option to install dev tools/compilers?
[09:33] <kwyjibo> i'm looking through that locale thing, Seveas
[09:33] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me install SBaGen?
[09:33] <Seveas> darksun, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:33] <darksun> Seveas, thanx
[09:33] <vanten> djk_: sure there is, the one from blackdown jre. but i was wondering if some stuff on ubuntu is left 32 bit so the sun jdk 32 could be used or so
[09:34] <LoppApan> Seveas: you are active and got an @, you getting paid for this? ;)
[09:34] <alexissoft> is it possible to upgrade a current breezy installation to dapper ? (i like development distribs :p)
[09:34] <Amaranth> !info ia32-libs
[09:34] <Seveas> alexissoft, yes it is
[09:34] <alexissoft> cool :)
[09:34] <Seveas> alexissoft, but the ubuntu dev. version breaks hard sometimes
[09:35] <kbrooks> LoppApan, No.....
[09:35] <vanten> !info ia32-libs
[09:35] <LoppApan> kbrooks: ok, just good work then
[09:35] <purplefeltangel> how do you install a program that is in a .tgz?
[09:35] <Rubin> !dapper
[09:35] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[09:35] <Millenniumgroup> hi Rubin :)
[09:35] <alexissoft> i don't mind :)
[09:35] <kbrooks> purplefeltangel, depends
[09:35] <Seveas> !tell purplefeltangel about compiling
[09:35] <Rubin> hi Milenko_The_Snow
[09:35] <Rubin> er
[09:35] <Rubin> hi Millenniumgroup
[09:35] <kbrooks> Seveas, it depends.
[09:35] <pipeline> purplefeltangel: You avoid doing so.
[09:35] <purplefeltangel> seveas, uh, i don't think i'm doing that.
[09:35] <vanten> Amaranth: and the correct name is ? :)
[09:36] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, you might have to :)
[09:36] <Amaranth> vanten: no idea
[09:36] <purplefeltangel> pipeline: well then what should i do? :/
[09:36] <Dreamglider> i have 8 updates available, but when i klick the update icon nothing happens ?
[09:36] <pipeline> purplefeltangel: Avoid it?
[09:36] <Amaranth> !find ia32
[09:36] <purplefeltangel> pipeline: but i want this program?
[09:36] <djk_> vanten, you're wrong. there is a jre, and a jdk, no plugin. no webstart.
[09:36] <Seveas> Amaranth, ubotu is on a 32-bit machine so has no ia32-libs in its cache
[09:36] <djk_> vanten: ..for 64bit..
[09:36] <Millenniumgroup> it's all quiet here on the western front sky) tx to you and excalibur :)
[09:36] <Amaranth> Seveas: oh yeah
[09:36] <vanten> djk: tsk
[09:36] <Seveas> djk_, sun has a 64 bit version of their jre
[09:37] <vilefridge> I'm using an Orinoco 8482-WD a/b/g Wifi adapter and the WPA_Supplicant package.  It seems like I'm being disconnected every 600 seconds (10 minutes) right on the dot! The downtime is about 5 seconds, before the connection is stable again for another 600 seconds.  Does anyone have any idea whatsoever why this might be occuring at 10 minute intervals?
[09:37] <Seveas> vilefridge, probably your orinoco driver crapping our
[09:37] <Seveas> out*
[09:37] <djk_> Seveas: i didn't say they don't. in fact, i said they do. however, i said that there is no javaplugin or webstart for 64bit
[09:37] <jemt> Greetings. I have finally decided to make Ubuntu my primary operating system - but i'm still using Windows for .NET development. But I'm in need of a good Antivirus Program.  Of couse it is needed
[09:38] <Seveas> jemt, ever heard of mono?
[09:38] <neiras> jemt - you have to remember, 99% of viruses out there are not "Computer viruses", they are "Windows viruses"
[09:38] <jemt> Seveas: Yep :)
[09:38] <kbrooks> jemt: no, its not on ubuntu
[09:38] <vilefridge> Sevas:  Thanks, I believe there's an updated driver called madwifi-ng.  I'll have to give that a shot =)
[09:38] <BenUrban> ugh, now i can't log into x
[09:38] <lancer285> Hey guys, anyone have suggestions on a good KVM. I'm gonna need one to switch from ubuntu to Mac
[09:39] <Surak> jemt: why do you need a antivirus in linux? will this machine host files for a windows network?
[09:39] <kbrooks> BenUrban, meh, using ubuntu eh ;)
[09:39] <BenUrban> kbrooks: heh, yeah
[09:39] <BenUrban> you?
[09:39] <kbrooks> duh. ;)
[09:39] <thegladiator> _jason, i am trying out to install mp3 , but this is the error i get
[09:39] <Seveas> vilefridge, maswifi is for atheros, not orinoco
[09:39] <djk_> kbrooks: it may not be needed as protection for oneself, but to prevent distributing viruses ;)
[09:39] <vilefridge> jemt:  VB .NET is the only reason Windows is still kicking around on my box too :)  Like Seveas said, Clamav is slick!
[09:39] <Seveas> vilefridge, ewwwww VB....
[09:39] <BenUrban> currently sharing /boot and /home with gentoo
[09:39] <Seveas> vilefridge, learn python :)
[09:39] <sethk> lancer285, My IOGEAR USB switch works well with OSX and linux and windows
[09:40] <vanten> djk:
[09:40] <Surak> I need help with a smartlink modem. is someone experienced with it?
[09:40] <vanten> dwarf ~ # equery files dev-java/blackdown-jdk | grep javaplugin.so
[09:40] <vanten> /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/javaplugin.so -> /opt/blackdown-jdk-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:40] <vanten> dwarf ~ #
[09:40] <sethk> lancer285, but my earlier IOGEAR didn't
[09:40] <vilefridge> Seveas:  No way?  I'm using madwifi for my orinoco...... right at this moment.
[09:40] <jemt> I'm quite sure that viruses exists for Linux
[09:40] <sethk> lancer285, so don't go for an older one.  miniview III or later
[09:40] <shawarma> Has anyone here ever tried converting /boot to RAID-1 ?
[09:40] <Seveas> vilefridge, hmm
[09:40] <sethk> jemt, yes, there are a few
[09:40] <jenda> jemt: most people who switch to GNU/Linux is to avoid viri - non Windows OSes are usually imune to most viri, and Linux is immune to all dangerous ones.
[09:40] <thegladiator> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5762
[09:40] <jemt> .. And I can't afford data lose
[09:40] <sethk> jenda, there is one dangerous linux virus around
[09:40] <sethk> jenda, although I've only come across it in docs, never in the flesh
[09:40] <jemt> The data on this machine is pretty important to me and several companies
[09:40] <jenda> sethk: And it's called MS Windows
[09:41] <BenUrban> unfortunately i can't paste my Xorg.0.log since i can't start x...
[09:41] <BenUrban> well i shuoldn't say that
[09:41] <BenUrban> i can start x
[09:41] <vilefridge> Seveas: hrmm indeed hahah.  I'll look into it (and maybe python hah) later, have to run back to work!  Thanks for the help
[09:41] <sethk> jenda, ok, two then.  :)
[09:41] <BenUrban> but i can't log in
[09:41] <Surak> jemt: they say that there is one. I'm not aware of. And I use linux since 1993.
[09:41] <_jason> thegladiator, enable the main repository.  I think you didn't have those enabled when I checked before, check.
[09:41] <jenda> sethk: Mac OS? DOS?
[09:41] <thegladiator> yep
[09:41] <sethk> BenUrban, look at the _first_ error in the log file, and tell us what it is.
[09:41] <Gambit-> hey chaps
[09:41] <sethk> jenda, there is one dangerous email virus that hits linux, although it is of course patched and fixed
[09:42] <Gambit-> g'bye chaps
[09:42] <noddaba> Hey guys, need a little help using mdadm to setup a linear array of two drives (originally formatted ext3).  I created the array just fine, but I'm not sure if I should run mke2fs on the raid device (/dev/md1) or on the individual devices?
[09:42] <sethk> jenda, so only old installations are vulnerable
[09:42] <jenda> sethk: Of course - a single virus can never live long.
[09:42] <BenUrban> bah no gpm either
[09:42] <hawk`> anyone have any experience with pure-ftpd?
[09:42] <LoppApan> hawk`: mmm, long ago
[09:43] <sethk> jenda, hey, some windows viruses have been around for six, seven years now.  :)
[09:43] <BenUrban> ah better
[09:43] <rambo3> can i install windows virus with wine
[09:43] <jenda_very_busy> sethk: True - but those are dangerous only until you stop using Winthing
[09:43] <BenUrban> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[09:43] <hawk`> ah, nevermind, found it
[09:43] <jemt> Is clamav just a scanner?
[09:43] <LoppApan> hawk`: good
[09:43] <jenda_very_busy> rambo3: j'sec - I'll get you a link
[09:43] <jemt> I would prefer a shield
[09:43] <corresponder> rambo3: what should he do to your system?
[09:44] <BenUrban> that's the only line start starts with (EE)
[09:44] <Surak> aplay -l does not show my modem. it's a Smart Link Ltd.: Unknown device 2800 - which is stated as available through alsa. I don't know how to proceed, anyway.
[09:44] <Surak> jemt: you are looking for horns in a head's horse.
[09:44] <BenUrban> wtf
[09:44] <rudiz> jemt, u can use chkrootkit
[09:44] <Seveas> BenUrban, then install a correct fglrx module
[09:45] <Seveas> (hint: if you upgrade your kernel you will need to recompile the module)
[09:45] <hawk`> hmm
[09:45] <MaX> boas
[09:45] <vince_> 0hi
[09:45] <rudiz> jemt, sudo apt-get install chkrootkit
[09:45] <BenUrban> Seveas: i haven't changed kernels
[09:45] <MaX> hey
[09:45] <BenUrban> Seveas: and besides, that's not my problem
[09:45] <hawk`> if i want to add switches to an autostart program, where do i change this?
[09:45] <BenUrban> i can't log into x
[09:45] <BenUrban> hmm i should try starting x without gdm
[09:45] <Surak> does someone use a smartlink modem? or where can I look a channel for it?
[09:45] <MaX> how can i install my soundblaster creative live 5.1! ????
[09:45] <jemt> rudiz: Is that a scanner or a shield?
[09:46] <jemt> rudiz: And is a 'rootkit' the same as a virus ?
[09:46] <rudiz> scans for rootkits
[09:46] <BenUrban> oh wtf
[09:46] <lancer285> sethk, okay thanks!
[09:46] <jemt> rudiz: Well, I need a shield
[09:46] <vanten> MaX: open your case and plug it in ;)
[09:46] <Surak> jemt: none. You are looking for something which does not exist.
[09:46] <vince_> main:rgstereo=0Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:46] <vince_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:46] <vince_> Video mode set failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:46] <vince_> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[09:46] <vince_> *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0xb7c4d938 ***
[09:46] <vince_>  What's the problem?
[09:46] <BenUrban> it says X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[09:46] <jemt> Surak: A shield or the viruses i'm talking about ?
[09:46] <MaX> vanten, sorry i didn't understand
[09:47] <Surak> jemt: the viruses.
[09:47] <Seveas> vince_, the problem is that you paste in here
[09:47] <sethk> BenUrban, how are you starting X?
[09:47] <BenUrban> sethk: this time i tried startx
[09:47] <sethk> BenUrban, with the default installation an ordinary user can start X.
[09:47] <Agrajag> jemt: if you want something that will mintor the integrity of everything in your system, you should probably look into something like tripwire
[09:47] <Surak> jemt: there are commercial anti-virus sollutions for linux. mcafee, freeav.com, etc.
[09:47] <Agrajag> s/mintor/monitor
[09:47] <BenUrban> sethk: this is hardly default
[09:47] <sethk> BenUrban, that's odd.  Is there an X server running already, that perhaps can't be killed because it was started by root?
[09:47] <BenUrban> sethk: i'm sharing /home with gentoo
[09:47] <jemt> The thing is that I have a shared FAT32 partition with all my data on - available in both Windows XP and Linux. And I'm afraid that I might get some Windows viruses via Ubuntu which will execute when I start windows
[09:48] <neiras> jemt: a rootkit basically sits between the kernel and user space, and intercepts most calls between them.  Rootkits can be pretty hard to detect.
[09:48] <sethk> BenUrban, well, ok.  do you have .gnome and/or .kde directories in home set up from gentoo?
[09:48] <dr_willis> Windows viruses via Ubuntu   ?
[09:48] <BenUrban> sethk: yes, .gnome
[09:48] <BenUrban> and there is no X running
[09:48] <aris_> jemt, don't be afraid about that
[09:48] <Surak> jemt: how will they come in through ubuntu?
[09:48] <sethk> neiras, actually that is a definition of rootkit that has been floating around since the Sony story, but that's not what a rootkit in UNIX has traditionally been
[09:48] <aris_> jemt, it's very unlikely
[09:48] <MaX> how can i install my soundblaster creative live 5.1! ????
[09:48] <neiras> jemt: look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
[09:48] <Seveas> Surak, mailserver
[09:48] <jenda_very_busy> ALL, rambo3: Viri in Linux: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss
[09:48] <neiras> sethk, sure, but I'm trying to be simple here
[09:48] <sethk> neiras, a unix root kit loads a series of programs with the same names as common utilities (ls, sh, etc.) but with different behavior.
[09:48] <jemt> Surak: Downloads perhaps ?
[09:49] <jenda_very_busy> Very good read
[09:49] <sethk> neiras, ok
[09:49] <Surak> jemt: let's assume you download a virus (through email)
[09:49] <jemt> Surak: Not that I'm downloading alot
[09:49] <Seveas> !5.1!
[09:49] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[09:49] <sethk> BenUrban, it isn't.  factorial's domain is integers
[09:49] <jemt> Surak: Might happen, yes
[09:49] <Seveas> !5.1*2.2
[09:49] <ubotu> 11.22
[09:49] <BenUrban> lol
[09:49] <Surak> jemt: the file will be saved in fat32 partition.
[09:49] <BenUrban> sethk: i was being sarcastic btw
[09:50] <Surak> jemt: this file will not be executed at windows' startup. there will not be anythin in windows registry telling it that.
[09:50] <BenUrban> but factorial does work for some non-integers
[09:50] <sethk> BenUrban, I figured that  :)
[09:50] <aris_> sethk, not always
[09:50] <MaX> how can i install my soundblaster creative live 5.1! ???? please
[09:50] <jemt> Surak: Well, sounds right.
[09:50] <aris_> sometimes a good rootkit doesn't even leave files on harddisk
[09:50] <wick3d> is it possible to listen to a shoutcast radiostation with xmms?
[09:50] <jemt> Surak: But I will still have a virus lying on my partition
[09:51] <dr_willis> MaX,  err.. it saw mine and set it up during the install.
[09:51] <Surak> so, a updated windows antivirus will find it before it is run.
[09:51] <jemt>  - But my Windows antivirus will detect that
[09:51] <Seveas> wick3d, my xmms thinks it is :)
[09:51] <sethk> aris_, the definition of the term is arbitrary, obviously.  I'm using the accepted definition in the UNIX system V world for quite a while.  Not to say that trojans aren't nasty things.  they just have nothing to do with rootkits.
[09:51] <Surak> jemt: a good windows (and linux) free antivirus is www.freeav.com
[09:51] <jemt> Surak: Ok, thanks
[09:51] <jemt> Actually that one i'm using for Windows :)
[09:52] <aris_> sethk, nope, i'm saying a rootkit can for instance just be a kernel patch loaded at runtime
[09:52] <Surak> there's a free version for linux also.
[09:52] <aris_> that change the inner working of most syscalls
[09:52] <silverton> MaX, is the emu10k module loaded?
[09:52] <sethk> aris_, yes, I know what you are saying, and I'm disagreeing
[09:52] <M_Cheevy> morning ppls
[09:52] <djk_> does someone here use dosbox?
[09:52] <wick3d> Seveas so how do i set that up? since when i click "tune in" i just get a box asking what prog to use and i cant find sh** on this comp now:P
[09:52] <chombee> Hi - I was wondering if it was possible to make the fonts look better in text mode - i.e. when X Windows is not running. Fonts look really nice in a GNOME terminal, but horrible in text mode linux
[09:52] <jemt> Btw - we were talking about e-mails. Is it possible to transfer the mail-folder fra Thunderbird on Windows to Thunderbird on Linux ?
[09:52] <BenUrban> djk_: me
[09:52] <BenUrban> sometimes
[09:52] <jemt>  - Or even make them share a mail-folder on the shared FAT32 partition ?
[09:52] <sethk> jemt, sure.  the question is whether after you transfer it, will it still work?
[09:52] <aris_> the definition of a rootkit is "a kit that permits a hacker to get back to his shell without using the exploit he used to get in"
[09:52] <jenda_very_busy> djk_: Occasionally
[09:53] <LoppApan> chombee: framebuffer I think
[09:53] <djk_> BenUrban: i've apt-got it but i can't locate the dosbox.conf file...
[09:53] <sethk> aris_, no, that's not what I have in any documentation.  I checked before making my comment.
[09:53] <LoppApan> chombee: set vide mode in grub
[09:53] <aris_> thus, it doesn't say if this has to be kernelmode or usermode
[09:53] <M_Cheevy> well my ubuntu disks have just arrived, right after I finalised my debian install.  I'm running on a sata raid and it looks like there is better support for it in ubuntu.   Should I go ahead and make the swap?
[09:53] <LoppApan> chombee: google on that
[09:53] <MaX> silverton, don't know what that is
[09:53] <BenUrban> djk_: can't help you there, haven't used it in ubuntu yet
[09:53] <aris_> sethk, your documentation lies :)
[09:53] <LoppApan> chombee: set video mode in grub
[09:53] <rhoffa> is there an apt-get for any linux ftp program that works wiht the xbox
[09:53] <sethk> jemt, you want IMAP.  Don't try to get imap on the cheap by sharing directories.
[09:53] <djk_> BenUrban: ah okay.
[09:53] <silverton> MaX, in a terminal, run lsmod, and look for emu10k
[09:53] <aris_> the modified ls & such are the first generation of rootkits
[09:53] <djk_> jenda_very_busy: can you locate the dosbox.conf file?
[09:54] <aris_> easily detectable and noisy
[09:54] <jenda_very_busy> djk_: I don't think so
[09:54] <jenda_very_busy> djk_: I tried before
[09:54] <jemt> sethk: Well, the case is that I do have IMAP support - but most of my e-mails is located on my Windows installation (Thunderbird) - and I want to keep those too
[09:54] <stuart_> Trying to install KDE on ubuntu. # sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <stuart_> . Error message E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop appears. What have I done wrong?
[09:54] <silverton> ubuntu should have set it up automatically, there is something in alsamixer that you prolly have to enable, I always have when I have a SB in a nix box
[09:54] <rhoffa> and anyone know why i can connect to ubuntu server so fast but not efnet
[09:54] <thegladiator> is ubuntu profitable company ?
[09:54] <aris_> it doesn't matter anyway
[09:54] <sethk> jemt, email them back to yourself on the imap server
[09:54] <jemt> are*
[09:54] <FarrisG> Ok, how about this: How do I keep usb_storage from loading until the system loads the modules in /etc/modules?
[09:54] <djk_> jenda_very_busy: mmh, this is interesting.. the conf.file is pretty much the most important part..
[09:54] <aris_> any good rootkit won't be detected by chkrootkit
[09:54] <jemt> sethk: Hmm. There is a couple of hundred e-mails. Would take quite some time
[09:54] <jenda_very_busy> thegladiator: Ubuntu isn't a company - Canonical is, and I think it's profitable
[09:55] <sethk> jemt, you don't do it by hand, you script it.
[09:55] <jenda_very_busy> thegladiator: But maybe it isn't.
[09:55] <thegladiator> i see , is the owner making something out of this ventuer ?
[09:55] <djk_> jenda_very_busy: do you use a graphical frontend to dosbox?
[09:55] <jenda_very_busy> djk_: I know, but I have no clue... No I don't use a GUI
[09:55] <Surak> I need help in setting up a smartlink modem in ubuntu. it does not work as stated in docs.
[09:55] <MaX> silverton, don't have that
[09:55] <rudiz> there is also  http://www.rootkit.nl
[09:55] <BenUrban> djk_: if you can start dosbox, you can generate a config file...
[09:55] <jemt> sethk: Yea, might work:)
[09:55] <jenda_very_busy> djk_: very besy - sorry
[09:55] <neiras> thegladiator: Who knows, financially - on the other hand, he's sure getting a lot of geek cred :)
[09:55] <jenda_very_busy> *busy
[09:55] <Thorondor> evolution keeps crashing on startup, i get these error messages when launching from terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5763 - any ideas?
[09:55] <djk_> jenda_very_busy: meh, i can't type a : in dosbox, thus need a gui.
[09:56] <djk_> BenUrban: how?
[09:56] <silverton> MaX, then type sudo modprobe emu10k
[09:56] <silverton> or, wait
[09:56] <silverton> type sudo alsaconf
[09:56] <BenUrban> djk_: i forget exactly, but you can type help
[09:56] <thegladiator> :D
[09:56] <thegladiator> credits , bah :D
[09:56] <jemt> clear
[09:56] <chombee> LoppApan - I have to rebuild the kernel?
[09:56] <sethk> Thorondor, you lost or failed to install some shared libraries.
[09:56] <M_Cheevy> endowments tend to survive by investing the unspend money.. hopefully the earn more in interest then they spend
[09:56] <MaX> FATAL: Module emu10k not found.
[09:56] <sethk> Thorondor, what did you do to trigger this?
[09:57] <silverton> MaX, try sudo alsaconf
[09:57] <LoppApan> chombee: don't know how the standard kernel is built. make menuconfig and chek it out or just try with videp settings and grub and find out
[09:57] <Thorondor> sethk: i don't know what exactly caused it, but i see that libgail-gnome-module is not installed
[09:57] <MaX> sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[09:57] <MaX> lol
[09:57] <vanten> djk_: missing sun java plugin is not a problem, konqueror doesnt uses java directly, without plugin
[09:57] <sethk> Thorondor, right.  Did you upgrade evolution, or change its configuration?
[09:58] <M_Cheevy> djk: mainly because sun isn't going to make java completely open source
[09:58] <silverton> MaX, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:58] <Thorondor> sethk: i don't remember having done that, recently
[09:58] <MaX> 5..10
[09:58] <thegladiator> rm is not part of w32 codecs package ?
[09:58] <djk_> M_Cheevy: huh?
[09:58] <stuart_> I get the error message "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" when I type in "# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". Am I doing something wrong?
[09:58] <silverton> MaX, install alsa-utils and alsa-base
[09:58] <vanten> djk_: only flash will be a problem... but i guess it must be possible to install a 32 bit static firefox...
[09:58] <M_Cheevy> djk: java is from sun.  it's not included in the release because of licensing issues
[09:59] <sethk> Thorondor, Did you upgrade something that might have replaced libraries with newer versions?
[09:59] <djk_> M_Cheevy: okay? and...why are you telling me this?
[09:59] <sethk> Thorondor, there has to be something of that sort going on.
[09:59] <M_Cheevy> djk: because only now I see your question hinges around 64bit rather than merely the "why" of installing java
[10:00] <djk_> M_Cheevy: i never asked a question regarding java..
[10:00] <MaX> in Synaptic already installed
[10:00] <MaX> maybe i did wrong the command
[10:00] <MaX> how it is?
[10:00] <sley> anyone know about flash on amd64?
[10:00] <Thorondor> sethk: i installed GConf yesterday, could it have to do somethin with it?
[10:00] <M_Cheevy> djk_: saw "<vanten> djk_: missing sun java plugin"
[10:00] <thegladiator> my *.rm files are nto being read after i installed w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:00] <thegladiator> any idea ?
[10:01] <Seveas> wick3d, xmms http://url_to_playlist
[10:01] <thegladiator> it says real media 8 and 9 in the article as well
[10:01] <BenUrban> thegladiator: i don't think win32codecs has rm spport
[10:01] <BenUrban> i could be wrong though
[10:01] <djk_> M_Cheevy: vanten was the one asking about java on 64bit, i said that there is no plugin and no webstart for 64bit..
[10:01] <rhoffa> anyone know any ftp linux programs that connect to an xbox
[10:01] <Seveas> BenUrban, it has
[10:01] <thegladiator> The Codecs" support playing MPEG-1, -2 & -4, DivX, Quicktime, Real Media 8 & 9, Windows Media Video 9 and many other formats.
[10:01] <M_Cheevy> djk: maybe I should just wait until my first cup of coffee kicks in....
[10:01] <LoppApan> rhoffa: gftp?
[10:01] <_jason> thegladiator, do .wmv play?
[10:01] <thegladiator> lemme check
[10:01] <rhoffa> is it built in?
[10:01] <sethk> Thorondor, yes, it could.
[10:01] <kbrooks> I HAVE A QUESTION
[10:01] <kbrooks> I HAVE A QUESTION
[10:02] <kbrooks> I HAVE A QUESTION
[10:02] <stuart_> I get the error message "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" when I type in "# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". Am I doing something wrong?
[10:02] <_jason> kbrooks, ...
[10:02] <sethk> Thorondor, it's a bug in the package if it does, of course, but it certainly could.
[10:02] <MaX> silverton, say the command again please
[10:02] <BenUrban> kbrooks: please don't do that...
[10:02] <djk_> M_Cheevy: good idea hehe ;) i know java like i know a bad bowel movement.. and i stay away from both :p
[10:02] <sethk> kbrooks, we are all happy to hear that.
[10:02] <BenUrban> lmao
[10:02] <navarone> stuart repos are probably down
[10:02] <rhoffa> loppapan - is it built in with ubuntu
[10:02] <korhalf> kbrooks, don't flood, idiot
[10:02] <shawarma> Seveas: LOL!
[10:02] <BenUrban> haha@ kbrooks
[10:02] <LoppApan> rhoffa: u can install it
[10:02] <Seveas> korhalf: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:02] <M_Cheevy> djk_: (brain flush at that image)
[10:02] <djk_> kbrooks: do you still have a question :p
[10:02] <stuart_> navarone many thanks, sorry.
[10:03] <navarone> np stu
[10:03] <Mabus06> damnit
[10:03] <shawarma> Could changing the type of a partition mess up being able to boot from it?
[10:03] <thegladiator> _jason, *.wmv can be played , yes
[10:03] <korhalf> thegladiator, not true
[10:03] <sethk> shawarma, absolutely
[10:03] <Thorondor> sethk: after installing the libgail-gnome-module package, the first error message went away, but it still crashes.
[10:03] <rhoffa> do i need to set up anything special to connect to other servers other than ubuntu
[10:03] <Mabus06> how do you replace the list of people on the right hand side of xchat? I dropped my keyboard and it disappeared
[10:03] <korhalf> thegladiator, some ofthe new wmvs give processinput errors and give a green garbled screen
[10:03] <_jason> thegladiator, what player are you using
[10:03] <thegladiator> korhalf, which is not true ?
[10:03] <shawarma> sethk: Are you sure? The contents is unaltered.
[10:03] <thegladiator> totem
[10:03] <Seveas> Mabus06, in the preferences
[10:03] <thegladiator> i see
[10:03] <thegladiator> this could be old wmv
[10:03] <BenUrban> Mabus06: what disappeared? the keyboard, or the list?
[10:04] <thegladiator> i am going to install aplyer
[10:04] <_jason> thegladiator, totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[10:04] <rhoffa> cause i cant connect to efnet
[10:04] <Mabus06> the list, lol
[10:04] <thegladiator> which one should i go for ?
[10:04] <silverton> MaX, sudo alsaconf
[10:04] <Seveas> BenUrban, :)
[10:04] <vanten> sley: i would like to know too, i guess installing a 32 bit static firefox is the only solution
[10:04] <BenUrban> :)
[10:04] <thegladiator> default on breezy badger
[10:04] <thegladiator> gstreamer
[10:04] <thegladiator> not xine
[10:04] <_jason> thegladiator, try totem-xine if you like totem.  I like mplayer too.
[10:04] <navarone> Mabus user list maybe hidden...try pull out user list from the right hand side...happened to me once
[10:04] <trout> hello, noob here. Have a couple of quick questions I can't find the answer to on the net.
[10:04] <thegladiator> i'd like xine though
[10:04] <lukus001> hey guys got a bit of a problem, when i logged in i had a couple of popups say "XYZ" failed to load, this has happened before but this time i accidentally pressed ignore/dont reload instead of "reload" so now i have now window manger shoort cuts at the bottom panel - how can i reload them restarting does nout
[10:04] <thegladiator> _jason, from synaptic ?
[10:04] <M_Cheevy> trout: we're all ears.. ask away
[10:04] <MaX> silverton, the same :\
[10:04] <Seveas> trout, welcome, ask away :)
[10:04] <diesel> thegladiator: install xine...it is better than totem anyway
[10:05] <silverton> MaX, then I haven't a clue dude
[10:05] <sethk> lukus001, try a modprobe
[10:05] <Seveas> lukus001, right click on the panel, select add to panel, select window list
[10:05] <MaX> thanks anyway
[10:05] <trout> I have installed a couple of apps, like AntiVIR, but for the life of me I can't find them to check setting etc,,,
[10:05] <_jason> thegladiator, yeah, the package is 'totem-xine'.  It will replace totem-gstreamer.  I'll have ubotu send you a link for mplayer if you want to try that as well
[10:05] <silverton> MaX, try google dude
[10:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell thegladiator about mplayer
[10:05] <thegladiator> yep
[10:05] <sley> vanten: do you know where to get that?  The firefox I downloaded had missing 32bit dependencies
[10:05] <M_Cheevy> trout: ahhh the joy of "where the hell did it go???"
[10:06] <fre4k> can someone point me to a link/tell me how to downgrade my gcc from 4 to 3.4.5
[10:06] <lukus001> seveas, thanks - worked
[10:06] <BenUrban> trout: dpkg --filelist is your friend (or is it --listfiles?)
[10:06] <Seveas> fre4k, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:06] <lukus001> sethk, thank you aswell
[10:06] <Seveas> BenUrban, -L
[10:06] <BenUrban> heh
[10:06] <vanten> sley: dunno, i'll convert this box to ubuntu in a minute. i'll tell you if a find out.
[10:06] <fre4k> Seveas, will it automatically remove the newer version and then load the older one ?
[10:07] <Seveas> fre4k, no, but you should use gcc4 on Ubuntuu anyway
[10:07] <trout> is that to be typed in terminal? sorry when I said noob, I meant really noob. only with linux for a week!
[10:07] <M_Cheevy> trout: yeap, that's a good place to do it...
[10:07] <fre4k> Seveas, i'm getting an error msg from vmware that the kernel was built with 3.5 wheras i'm having 4.0 installed
[10:07] <kwyjibo> i must go. Seveas, you were onto something and I thank you all for your assistance. Hopefulyl I can figure out a solution soon.
[10:07] <BenUrban> trout: yes
[10:07] <Seveas> fre4k, ah, kernel modules
[10:08] <Seveas> fre4k, do this before compilng vmware:
[10:08] <BenUrban> trout: dpkg -L <package>
[10:08] <Seveas> export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:08] <fre4k> Seveas, sudo export or only export ?
[10:08] <Seveas> only export
[10:09] <fre4k> Seveas, okay ...
[10:09] <Jared> ....i can't figure out how to get java to install......ugh
[10:09] <Mabus06> Seveas, I don't have a preferences menu any more I don't think
[10:09] <Jared> and i tried the ubuntu wiki
[10:09] <BooZee> how do I install (and uninstall) rpm packages?
[10:09] <wuming> is there a collection of ubuntu backport?
[10:10] <BenUrban> ubotu: tell BooZee about alien
[10:10] <fre4k> Seveas, its did not work :(
[10:10] <Jared> BenUrban do you know how to get java to install.......i can't get it to...i tried the instructions on ubuntu wiki
[10:10] <fre4k> BooZee, u could try using alien
[10:11] <BenUrban> Jared: never tried to install java in ubuntu
[10:11] <wuming> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[10:11] <wuming> sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[10:11] <MaX> silverton, sorry again and try to help me here...i installed gcc to compile C and Assembley but when i compile it says /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: Arquive ou diretory not found
[10:11] <MaX> ... know something
[10:11] <Seveas> fre4k, how are you compiling?
[10:11] <Seveas> wuming, the package should create that link
[10:11] <silverton> MaX, my knowledge on compiling source, is nil   sorry, lol
[10:11] <sethk> MaX, that should be installed, although that path is not the usual one.
[10:11] <Seveas> wuming, otherwise you should use update-alternatives, NOT ln
[10:11] <MaX> hmm
[10:11] <MaX> silverton,  lol
[10:11] <holman> Jared, following the wiki steps you will have java running ok, sure
[10:12] <MaX> sethk,  and how can i put this working??
[10:12] <fre4k> Seveas, not doing it directly ...there is a pl script ... all i'm doing is this ....sudo perl /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[10:12] <MaX> really need
[10:12] <Seveas> fre4k, ah tight
[10:12] <Seveas> fre4k, do it this way:
[10:12] <Seveas> sudo -i
[10:12] <sethk> MaX, do you have more than one version of gcc installed?
[10:12] <Seveas> CC=gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[10:12] <fre4k> Seveas, oh.. k
[10:12] <Thorondor> when i try to start evolution it crashes. by starting it via terminal, i get ``(evolution:14436): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed'' - what could cause this error?
[10:13] <Seveas> http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:13] <Seveas> damn
[10:13] <BenUrban> Thorondor: gdk_gc_set_foreground was expecting a graphics context object but got something else
[10:13] <MaX> hmm yes...  gcc-3.3 base and gcc-4.0
[10:13] <BenUrban> :)
[10:14] <MaX> sethk,  need to uninstall 3.3?
[10:14] <dirkson> Say, if I wanted to put a slight pause in a shell script, what command would I use?
[10:14] <BenUrban> dirkson: sleep
[10:14] <sethk> MaX, no, that shouldn't be necessary
[10:14] <Thorondor> BenUrban: ok, this doesn't say much to me. any hints what i could try?
[10:15] <dirkson> BenUrban: ok, thanks : )
[10:15] <BenUrban> or .1 for an even slighter pause
[10:15] <sethk> MaX, do    locate crt1.o
[10:15] <MaX> hmm ok
[10:15] <dirkson> BenUrban: Does it need a & behind it?
[10:15] <BenUrban> Thorondor: heh, never ask a programmer *why* some error message occurs :P
[10:15] <hajiki> Anyone know what happened to the Evolution option to 'reply inline' instead of Quoted???
[10:15] <fre4k> Seveas, i did this ... CC=gcc-3.4 perl /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl ...it still found out that gcc is 4.0
[10:15] <BenUrban> dirkson: that would defeat the purpose
[10:15] <Seveas> fre4k, hmmmmm
[10:15] <MaX> warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
[10:15] <fre4k> Seveas, sorry about all the trouble ..i'm a noob at this
[10:15] <dirkson> BenUrban: Ah, right, so it would : )
[10:15] <Seveas> fre4k, export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:15] <Seveas> perl /usr/bin/..etc
[10:16] <fre4k> okay
[10:16] <trout> ok, so now I found it, how do I get to one of my menus? I tried rightckick on applications <edit menus> and I can see it. I check the little box, but it doesn't come up. DO i need to do this as admin? how?
[10:16] <MaX> sethk, warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old ?
[10:16] <fre4k> Seveas, it still recognises the 4.0 ver
[10:16] <navarone> right click on applications?
[10:16] <sethk> MaX, to be safe, we should fix that.  do:   sudo updatedb
[10:16] <bla|patrick> hi
[10:16] <sethk> MaX, that will take a few minutes to run
[10:17] <Seveas> fre4k, that is really weird, are you using the latest vmware?
[10:17] <fre4k> let me chk
[10:17] <Seveas> previous versions had a bug that caused this
[10:17] <rhoffa> what do i need to open .rars?
[10:17] <bla|patrick> could someone give a repo that has the nonfree macromedia flash plugin?
[10:17] <deltron> rhoffa: unrar
[10:17] <rhoffa> it is saying unknown format or something
[10:17] <Seveas> rhoffa, unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[10:17] <rhoffa> a yo its 3030
[10:17] <navarone> trout when I do it a gui comes up
[10:17] <fre4k> Seveas, i'm having VMware-workstation-4.5.2-8848
[10:17] <korhalf> rhoffa, deltron 3030
[10:17] <deltron> rhoffa: word
[10:17] <bla|patrick> all i found until now are links rferring to that gpl project or debian packages :(
[10:17] <MaX> sethk,  done
[10:17] <bla|patrick> but i'd like to have breezy stuff
[10:17] <MaX> did already the locate and nothing
[10:17] <korhalf> Mastermind
[10:18] <Seveas> fre4k, I know nothing about vmware so couldn't tell whether that's the latest one
[10:18] <korhalf> who fuses the music
[10:18] <korhalf> wit no illusions
[10:18] <deltron> lol
[10:18] <trout> yes the GUI to edit menus comes up ok, but no changes I make show up?
[10:18] <korhalf> producin tha blueprints
[10:18] <fre4k> Seveas, oh... oky i'll with the site
[10:18] <deltron> rhoffa: unrar-free is the name of the package
[10:18] <fre4k> Seveas, thanks for all ur help
[10:18] <korhalf> thanks.
[10:18] <rhoffa> haha del d scuba diver wetsuit
[10:18] <bullitt_> some fonts have dissapeared in firefox, even when I highlight them
[10:18] <korhalf> rhoffa, thats from both sides of the mind i think
[10:18] <rhoffa> im listening to phoney phranchise right now
[10:18] <orbx> i have ubuntu and windows 2003 installed, but the grub boot loader doesn't detect win 2003. Does anyone know if its possible to add it to the grub?
[10:18] <fre4k> Seveas, is there anything that i have to undo ...
[10:18] <rhoffa> brain
[10:18] <Pluk> fre4k, 4.5 didnt like kernel 2.6.12 here . but 5.0  works ok here with CC-/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  , export CC , vmware-config.pl
[10:18] <deltron> yup
[10:18] <navarone> what changes have you made trout?
[10:18] <korhalf> rhoffa, same thing
[10:18] <Seveas> fre4k, no
[10:18] <deltron> that's not 3030
[10:18] <korhalf> yea, 3030 is better :)
[10:18] <rhoffa> yea it is
[10:19] <deltron> 3030 > *
[10:19] <rhoffa> it is the same dude
[10:19] <deltron> completely different project
[10:19] <rhoffa> yea but future development is like 3030
[10:19] <rhoffa> and thats straight del
[10:19] <deltron> ya
[10:19] <rhoffa> haha good to see some del love
[10:19] <korhalf> okay deltron is not del, deltron is del, kid koala, and automator
[10:19] <deltron> ever listen to heiroglyphics?
[10:19] <korhalf> people get it twisted
[10:19] <deltron> ya
[10:19] <orbx> i have ubuntu and windows 2003 installed, but the grub boot loader doesn't detect win 2003. Does anyone know if its possible to add it to the grub?
[10:19] <deltron> dan the automator is freaking amazing
[10:20] <Seveas> deltron, korhalf -> #ubutnu-offtopic
[10:20] <trout> under accessories, I have Aegis anti virus installed. It's icon is there but unchecked. SO I check it, but next time I go to application menu it is still  not there. I have restarted and re logged on, but no diff.
[10:20] <korhalf> Dr. Octagon is a good example,
[10:20] <korhalf> Seveas, k
[10:20] <deltron> yessir
[10:20] <rhoffa> yea i got that cd
[10:20] <rhoffa> dr octangonacolygyst
[10:20] <korhalf> deltron, rhoffa join offtopic lol
[10:20] <rhoffa> if everyone knew what was good for them theyd stop listening to all this bullshit on tv
[10:20] <rhoffa> haha
[10:20] <rhoffa> alright
[10:21] <phlaegel> anybody know if the current rhythmbox in breezy (or backports) has the daap sharing enabled?
[10:21] <Seveas> it has not
[10:21] <Seveas> daap is far too experimental
[10:21] <phlaegel> thought so, thanks
[10:21] <FenX> bonjour
[10:22] <phlaegel> do you know if it will be in dapper?
[10:22] <jenda_very_busy> bonjour FenX
[10:22] <bullitt_> some fonts have dissapeared in firefox, even when I highlight them, cannot see what is typed
[10:22] <deltron> dapper is not fun lol
[10:22] <MikeG> crontab question: running crontab with the following... 0 * * * * /usr/bin/sometask ... and I can't get it to execute. Any ideas?
[10:22] <BooZee> what's the best way to view a mysql database (graphicly, like phpMyAdmin) and run some action on some tables, from linux ? (assuming, ofcourse, that I don't have a phpMyAdmin access to it)
[10:23] <dr_willis> bullitt_,  gettign some font issues here as well.. in firefos they show up messed up.. i select th text then they get drawn right... just started happening today.. oddd...
[10:23] <navi> can anyone help me with my ipw2200 and wpa? i tried everything i could find now, but still i dont get an ip from our router
[10:23] <BenUrban> BooZee: why can't you access it with phpMyAdmin?
[10:23] <Seveas> MikeG, check your mail, cron sends you an e-mail with errors
[10:23] <BooZee> BenUrban: cuz it's not installed on the server
[10:24] <Seveas> BooZee, then install it :)
[10:24] <BenUrban> i don't think it has to be
[10:24] <Stork> how can i unzip a .rar file ?
[10:24] <BenUrban> can't it be used from a client?
[10:24] <BenUrban> Stork: unrar
[10:24] <Seveas> it's a simple tarball with php scripts
[10:24] <BooZee> I can't install things on the server
[10:24] <BooZee> it's not my server
[10:24] <BooZee> it's a shered hosting server
[10:24] <Seveas> BooZee, can you upload files to it?
[10:24] <BenUrban> BooZee: then install it on a computer that is yours
[10:24] <navi> fodo i need to give my key in a hex-dump or in plaintext to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:24] <bla|patrick> ok... where can i ask for repos?
[10:24] <Seveas> BooZee, pma does not need to be 'installed' it's just a bunch of php scripts
[10:25] <Seveas> !repos
[10:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:25] <MikeG> Seveas, sendmail is not installed
[10:25] <Seveas> MikeG, ah, ok :)
[10:25] <orbx> when you reboot, what keys do you press to get grub options?
[10:25] <BooZee> BenUrban: what do you mean?
[10:25] <Seveas> orbx, [ESC]
[10:25] <bla|patrick> Seveas: there is no reference to that real flashplayer from marcromedia
[10:25] <Seveas> !flash
[10:25] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:25] <BenUrban> BooZee: can't it connect to a nonlocal mysql database?
[10:26] <MikeG> Seveas, I'll install and remove later. thanks for the tip.
[10:26] <Seveas> bla|patrick, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[10:26] <pozdiy_>  where can I get an updated list (not older than 2004) of the supported wifi cards?
[10:26] <Seveas> it's in multiverse
[10:26] <bla|patrick> that wiki only has an entry that refers to that crappy gpl project
[10:26] <BooZee> BenUrban: I don't know...
[10:26] <bla|patrick> Seveas: is that the "real" one?
[10:26] <BenUrban> BooZee: try it and see
[10:26] <Seveas> bla|patrick, yes
[10:27] <bla|patrick> weired... i have already added universe and backports
[10:27] <bla|patrick> but that one doesnt appear in my list
[10:27] <BenUrban> bla|patrick: multiverse != universe
[10:27] <BooZee> BenUrban: where do I config the ip to connect to?
[10:27] <Seveas> bla|patrick, *multi*verse
[10:27] <BenUrban> BooZee: i don't remember
[10:28] <bla|patrick> let me check... one moment plz
[10:28] <bla|patrick> ya multiverse nonfree are added aswell
[10:28] <olipaul> i have a dynamic ip address with my isp, but is there a way i can publish my ip to my website every X minutes?
[10:28] <BenUrban> so i tried sudo startx...
[10:28] <olipaul> so i know where to ssh to from work, etc?
[10:28] <mcf501> hey, im trying to setup php and apache2, i got this error: Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/info.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[10:29] <mcf501> does anyone know where the config file is?
[10:29] <BenUrban> and it didn't start again...
[10:29] <BenUrban> still no relevant error messages
[10:29] <Mitja> Does anyone know how to release buy sound? /dev/dsp?
[10:29] <Mitja> *busy
[10:29] <korhalf> Mitja, kill any programs using the sound socket?
[10:29] <trout> naunder accessories, I have Aegis anti virus installed. It's icon is there but unchecked. SO I check it, but next time I go to application hi there, in MenuEdit, despite checking the box next to an app, it does not appear on the menu. ANy ideas?
[10:29] <korhalf> Mitja, actually, my alsa script allows multiple sounds to be played.
[10:30] <andril> hello all
[10:30] <BenUrban> korhalf: how does one set that up?
[10:30] <andril> does anyone know why Samba is still asking for a password?
[10:30] <trout> Sorry.. in Menu edit, despite checking the box next to an app, it does not appear on the menu. ANy ideas?
[10:30] <korhalf> BenUrban, well i can paste my alsa.conf
[10:30] <andril> is there anyway to fix this?
[10:30] <navarone> trout...look in System tools section of menu editor and see if it is there...I found it there
[10:31] <BenUrban> hmm but i can use links
[10:31] <BenUrban> korhalf: go ahead
[10:31] <BooZee> BenUrban: are you saying, I can put phpMyAdmin on my computer, run apache, and connect to a remote mysql server?
[10:31] <surfdue> hello
[10:31] <Mitja> korhalf: I don't know them all, killed the ones I know, but still doesn't work.
[10:31] <BenUrban> BooZee: oh that's right it requires apache....
[10:31] <surfdue> for some reason, i cannot get fglrxinfo to show ati, it shows some mesa3d
[10:32] <surfdue> how can i fix this, ive tryed everything on the setup ati page
[10:32] <BenUrban> then i suggest you try putting it somewhere on the server
[10:32] <korhalf> Mitja, restart alsa..
[10:32] <MikeG> Crontab error from sendmail is...  cannot connect to X server
[10:32] <BenUrban> ...
[10:32] <BenUrban> evil evil evil
[10:32] <Mitja> korhalf: is that alsactl?
[10:32] <BenUrban> sendmail shouldn't try to connect to X
[10:33] <trout> mine is showing up under applications, but it wont actually make it onto the menu.. ?
[10:33] <darksun> is ubuntu wine friendly?
[10:33] <Red-Sox> how does ubunut run on G3 macs?
[10:33] <testmachine> preey
[10:33] <dooglus> darksun: yes.
[10:33] <MikeG> BenUrban, its a cron job that is generating the error.
[10:33] <BenUrban> ohhh
[10:33] <testmachine> pretty
[10:33] <navarone> trout see if it is also under system tool in menu editor thingy...thingy being the technical term
[10:33] <darksun> dooglus, know if theres an apt-install for it?
[10:33] <BenUrban> MikeG: what cron job?
[10:33] <surfdue> anyone know?
[10:34] <pozdiy_> !tell darksun about wine
[10:34] <korhalf> case "$1,$2" in
[10:34] <korhalf>         suspend,*) /etc/init.d/alsa suspend ;;
[10:34] <korhalf>         resume,suspend) /etc/init.d/alsa resume ;;
[10:34] <korhalf> esac
[10:34] <dooglus> darksun: there is.  package 'wine' in the universe repo.
[10:34] <MikeG> BenUrban its a small python/QT script I wrote. brings up a notification window every 3 hours via cron
[10:34] <Rockj> anyone who could help me regarding graphicscard on my laptop with  Mobility Radeon 9700?  Also, when I try running glxgears, it seems to work smooth the first 3 seconds then it troubles bleh. Also, I find it odd that glxgears doesnt print out fps as glxgears used todo in Debian Sarge.
[10:35] <BenUrban> MikeG: ah, that's why it tries to connect to x
[10:35] <Red-Sox> !tell korhalf about paste
[10:35] <navarone> rockj glxgears -printfps
[10:35] <Comrade_Vladimir> whats a good alternative to gaim
[10:35] <BenUrban> MikeG: the only way i know of to allow scripts outside x to connect to x is using xhost +
[10:35] <BenUrban> but that's a security risk
[10:35] <trout> nope not there... I just tried running smeg as gksudo too and no luck there...
[10:35] <BenUrban> btw xhost - puts it back to normal
[10:36] <korhalf> Red-Sox, thank you..i didnt think it was big enough for that though
[10:36] <trappist> BenUrban: xhost +localhost is a little less insane
[10:36] <MikeG> BenUrban, Ok. I'll research a bit. Thanks.
[10:36] <Rockj> navarone: unknown parameter.
[10:36] <stef65> hi all
[10:36] <Rockj> navarone: my mistake.
[10:36] <navarone> rockj you got me then
[10:36] <Red-Sox> korhalf: sure
[10:36] <navarone> ok
[10:36] <Red-Sox> how does ubuntu run on iMac G3s?
[10:37] <maddash> !wine
[10:37] <Rockj> still got bad fps :(  I'm using the fglrx driver.
[10:37] <dooglus> MikeG: I had a similar problem.  My solution was to dump the values of "DISPLAY", "XAUTHORITY" and "SESSION_MANAGER" into a file each time GNOME starts up.  Then the script which needs to pop-up a window can use those 3 values.  It works like a charm.
[10:37] <navarone> Rockj, what vidcard?
[10:37] <stef65> Red-Sox: I guess it won't run, it'll walk....
[10:37] <surfdue> how do i know if a module is loaded?
[10:37] <bla|patrick> hmmm... weired
[10:37] <surfdue> nvm
[10:37] <avel> lsmod
[10:37] <avel> oops
[10:37] <bla|patrick> does tv.com load the stylesheet in ur linux?
[10:37] <bla|patrick> here it produces timeouts or loads incomplete :(
[10:37] <Rockj> navarone: mobility radeon 9700
[10:38] <kbrooks> BenUrban, it wasnt a ban
[10:38] <bla|patrick> could someone confirm this?
[10:38] <kbrooks> it was a +q.
[10:38] <BenUrban> -b is unban...
[10:38] <kbrooks> a +q is a ban.
[10:38] <BenUrban> oh
[10:38] <Seveas> tv.com completely timeout
[10:38] <BenUrban> yeah, +q is now +b
[10:38] <bla|patrick> kk
[10:38] <Seveas> BenUrban, +q foo == +b %foo
[10:38] <BenUrban> ?
[10:38] <navarone> rockj probablt need the ati faq to sort you out
[10:38] <korhalf> Rockj, use EasyUbuntu to get the ati drivers
[10:38] <Seveas> BenUrban, the % indicates a mute (+q) instead of a ban
[10:38] <Comrade_Vladimir> whats a good alternative to gaim
[10:39] <korhalf> Rockj, don't follow any faws, they're confusing and stupid, just use EasyUbuntu its the best.
[10:39] <Rockj> navarone: navarone: used the fglrx instructions that is on this web:  http://glasnost.beeznest.org/articles/194
[10:39] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, bitlbee+ irssi
[10:39] <BenUrban> ahh
[10:39] <trout> no good... no joy. Thanks for all your help. will check in later... Cheers.
[10:39] <korhalf> faqs*
[10:39] <Rockj> EasyUbuntu?
[10:39] <korhalf> yes.
[10:39] <navarone> !ati
[10:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:39] <Seveas> korhalf, easyubuntu is crap
[10:39] <Seveas> it wrecks a lot of machines
[10:39] <korhalf> my machine is perfect.
[10:39] <korhalf> all i did was install the ATI drivers
[10:39] <Seveas> it does that the wrong way
[10:39] <korhalf> i followed those links
[10:40] <Seveas> VERY wrong even
[10:40] <Comrade_Vladimir> Seveas all one thing
[10:40] <korhalf> and guess what i got, X Hanging
[10:40] <korhalf> thats what i got, and then i used the installer, whatever it did, it works
[10:40] <surfdue> korhalf, .
[10:40] <surfdue> eww
[10:41] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: That is offensive! :)
[10:41] <Rockj> ai, I can apt-get fglrx? Wow.
[10:41] <Seveas> jenda_very_busy, and for a reason
[10:41] <_jason> bla|patrick, tv.com works fine here
[10:41] <korhalf> Rockj, you'll see, you edit the xorg.conf a few times and all of a sudden everythings messed.
[10:41] <Comrade_Vladimir> not a irc client but for aim and yahoo
[10:41] <BenUrban> korhalf: been there, done that
[10:41] <BenUrban> without the editing part
[10:41] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: Please do not say EasyUbuntu is crap a week before the release of the new generation or EUb
[10:41] <BenUrban> :/
[10:42] <korhalf> jenda_very_busy, exactly, i've never heard of anyone having problems with it anyway.
[10:42] <Seveas> jenda_very_busy, the new generation may be better, but that remains to be seen
[10:42] <jenda_very_busy> korhalf: There have been problems, but it has changed A LOT
[10:42] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: Just please do not bash the name - it hurts the new project
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: The new gen doesn't cantain any code from the old.
[10:43] <Comrade_Vladimir> got another Seveas like an aim and yahoo client
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> And is done by a different team (they share one member - keyes)
[10:43] <Seveas> jenda_very_busy, new code == new bugs
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: lol
[10:43] <ajmitch> do you need to argue about it here?
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> True
[10:44] <jenda_very_busy> sorry ajmitch
[10:44] <Seveas> ajmitch, only if people are advising it
[10:44] <Kyral> Seveas: I will make sure it doesn't have bugs.
[10:44] <Rockj> oki. Ill do a reboot and see's if it works better now
[10:44] <Seveas> because that should not be done (yet - hopoefully)
[10:44] <Rockj> brb :)
[10:44] <hajiki> Anyone know what happened to the Evolution option to 'reply inline' instead of Quoted???
[10:44] <jenda_very_busy> Seveas: just please do not bash the program you don't know
[10:44] <Kyral> You can be sure that many VMWare installs will be used in its testing
[10:45] <BenUrban> s/is/was/
[10:45] <Comrade_Vladimir> seveas is the op obviosly he knows
[10:45] <trappist> fglrx works great here, as long as I don't try to use the composite extension
[10:45] <Seveas> in that case...
[10:45] <jenda_very_busy> People will remember the name - you can always say "isn't ready yet" instead of "is crap", right?
[10:46] <Kyral> Even without Ops Seveas is very knowledgeable
[10:46] <Comrade_Vladimir> thanks for crappin out my defense of u
[10:46] <ajmitch> Seveas: now you need to appoint someone else to keep the peace :)
[10:46] <klausos> hello, i need help to configure my network on ubuntu
[10:46] <Kyral> Even among us Members :D
[10:46] <Comrade_Vladimir> lol
[10:46] <BenUrban> you can't escape! ;)
[10:46] <Seveas> klausos, a bit more details would help
[10:46] <Comrade_Vladimir> can i be the op now
[10:46] <k31th_> guys, just wondering wat you all use as server platforms ?
[10:46] <Kyral> k31th_: I don't lol
[10:46] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh dennis
[10:47] <k31th_> im tied between debian gentoo...
[10:47] <k31th_> possibly ubuntu ?
[10:47] <Seveas> k31th_, I use Ubuntu
[10:47] <Seveas> and gentoo
[10:47] <Seveas> but Ubuntu is far better for servers
[10:47] <BenUrban> k31th_: i recommend against gentoo for a server unless you really know what you're doing
[10:47] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do u get chan serv to do that?
[10:47] <stef65> k31th_: via epia m10k as router/fw/fileserver
[10:47] <Kyral> Comrade_Vladimir: have access
[10:47] <Seveas> down time for a mysql upgrade: 5 mins. on Ubuntu - 4 hours on gentoo
[10:47] <BenUrban> Comrade_Vladimir: you get on the access list ;)
[10:48] <Comrade_Vladimir> how?
[10:48] <BenUrban> Seveas: you know you can compile without upgrading, right?
[10:48] <jenda_very_busy> Comrade_Vladimir: someone who is already there will put you on it
[10:48] <Seveas> :)
[10:48] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh hey seveas can i call in a favor
[10:48] <k31th_> Seveas: how you get on with the 6 month turn around ?
[10:48] <BenUrban> ...
[10:48] <Comrade_Vladimir> thanks
[10:48] <stef65> quote: 'ubuntu is an ancient african saying for: I'm sick of compiling gentoo'
[10:49] <BenUrban> lmao
[10:49] <Comrade_Vladimir> no!
[10:49] <Kyral> k31th_: Its called fun :D
[10:49] <ajmitch> Comrade_Vladimir: settle.. :)
[10:49] <Comrade_Vladimir> i like authority
[10:49] <Seveas> k31th_, what do you mean?
[10:49] <BenUrban> Seveas: i usually take less time to deop ;)
[10:49] <Seveas> Ubuntu releases security update after release, that's all I need on a server
[10:49] <BenUrban> can't be too careful :P
[10:49] <ajmitch> k31th_: you don't have to upgrade every 6 months
[10:50] <DR_K13> hi
[10:50] <k31th_> yeah well i dont think every 6 months is so bad
[10:50] <corresponder> hi
[10:50] <ajmitch> k31th_: especially with the coming dapper release, which will have 5 years of support
[10:50] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a good alternative for Gaim that i could use instead
[10:50] <k31th_> i like to stay current
[10:50] <ajmitch> k31th_: the others have 18 months
[10:50] <Seveas> k31th_, every release has 18 months of supportm dapper 5 years
[10:50] <Comrade_Vladimir> isnt dapper out in beta already?
[10:50] <XiCillin> kopete comrad_Vladimir
[10:50] <k31th_> i see
[10:50] <Kyral> Comrade_Vladimir: Kopete?
[10:50] <Seveas> stability is more important for servers than having the latest
[10:50] <ajmitch> Comrade_Vladimir: no, beta release is coming next year
[10:50] <k31th_> Seveas: true
[10:50] <XiCillin> for dapper?
[10:50] <k31th_> atm all our work boxes and centos
[10:50] <Comrade_Vladimir> #kopete people r to incompetant to help me
[10:51] <k31th_> are*
[10:51] <jenco> :/
[10:51] <BenUrban> Comrade_Vladimir: what's wrong with gaim?
[10:51] <Comrade_Vladimir> i saw people here claiming to have the beta of it (must of been lying
[10:51] <k31th_> i want to get rid of centos
[10:51] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, dapper is 'in development', you can use it but it's quite unstable
[10:51] <ajmitch> Comrade_Vladimir: no, there are snapshot test releases, it's in development
[10:51] <Comrade_Vladimir> BenUrban i cant use a animated icon
[10:51] <silverton> heh, thought Comrade_Vladimir was talking to me for a moment, my name is dennis too >.<
[10:51] <ajmitch> beta is scheduled for march 23rd
[10:52] <BenUrban> Comrade_Vladimir: i can see animated icons in gaim...
[10:52] <ajmitch> many people will call anything that's not final a beta release :)
[10:52] <Comrade_Vladimir> no seveas name is dennis its what it says or i just know everyones name
[10:52] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, ?
[10:52] <k31th_> thinking about going for ubuntu then as a server
[10:52] <Comrade_Vladimir> BenUrban not when the user with it has gaim
[10:52] <BenUrban> really?
[10:52] <BenUrban> :/
[10:52] <BenUrban> wait no that's not true
[10:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> no seveas ur name is dennis correct?
[10:53] <skar> hi all, i've breezy, and  installed vserver patched kernel from a deb repo, and now my nvidia module isn't working, how do i get the compiled nvidia module for this kernel?
[10:53] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, as everyone who knows /whois can see, yes
[10:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> wow u know commands good for u!
[10:53] <bimberi> is using real names kinda 'not the done thing' on irc?
[10:54] <jenco> ok, newb question where can i go to get some useful info on installing quake 2 for linux? :P
[10:54] <Comrade_Vladimir> or has a mouse with a mouse with 3 buttons
[10:54] <BenUrban> bimberi: huh?
[10:54] <Seveas> bimberi, I don't really care myself
[10:54] <DR_K13> forum
[10:54] <ajmitch> bimberi: in the channel this large, highlighting on nick is easier
[10:54] <mindtriggerz[h] > jenco: google quake 2 linux
[10:54] <Comrade_Vladimir> jenco does it say u can on the box
[10:54] <ajmitch> in smaller channels we use names :)
[10:54] <BenUrban> bimberi: my name *really* is ben urban :)
[10:54] <k31th_> using your real name is kool on freenode
[10:54] <korhalf> The themes in install don't show up in the Theme Manager
[10:54] <bimberi> BenUrban: well ok :) but, as a sort of netiquette thing
[10:54] <Comrade_Vladimir> not like anyones gonna come ond get u
[10:54] <korhalf> I installed it, and it says it should be accesible, yet it's no where to be found
[10:55] <BenUrban> my name is also Ben Urban_
[10:55] <BenUrban> and Ben Urban__
[10:55] <silverton> bimberi, I use my real name
[10:55] <BenUrban> ;)
[10:55] <DR_K13> My name is isajeep
[10:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> i kinda do
[10:55] <sethk> well, my name is donald trump, but nobody ever believes me.  :)  ??
[10:55] <DR_K13> lol dork
[10:55] <Seveas> YOU'RE FIRED!
[10:55] <BenUrban> lol
[10:56] <korhalf> Can this be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:56] <lee_> how to make my ra0 (wifi) avalible to a machoine conneted to my eth0 ?
[10:56] <korhalf> does anyone know why my themes arent being shown, i installed them, they just arent showing up
[10:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> yea but were all lazy computer people
[10:56] <Mitja> korhalf: did you post that alsa.conf allowing multiple sounds?
[10:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> need a offtopic page for ubuntu duh
[10:56] <Seveas> BenUrban, for general chatter of the people in here
[10:56] <mindtriggerz[h] > lee_ iptables & masquerade. google it
[10:56] <korhalf> Mitja, a while ago yes.
[10:56] <linx> how do i open ports
[10:57] <k31th_> there is one
[10:57] <Seveas> this channel is only for support (so we are completely violating channel policy)
[10:57] <BenUrban> Seveas: lol nm you didn't get the joke
[10:57] <sethk> linx, how are the ports closed in the first place?
[10:57] <Mitja> korhalf: I went offline, could you give me the link?
[10:57] <navarone> link firs t oyu need air superiority...<s>
[10:57] <Seveas> linx, reverse the actions you took that closed them
[10:57] <korhalf> How come my themes arent showing up?
[10:57] <linx> i didn't close
[10:57] <DR_K13> because you touch yourself at night
[10:57] <donny> hola
[10:57] <donny> hola
[10:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> haha
[10:58] <cecilia> hola
[10:58] <mindtriggerz[h] > LOL
[10:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> thats what i want op status for
[10:58] <BenUrban> cecilia: we hear you
[10:58] <linx> i installed proftpd and when i go to my ip:21 it says the port is closed due to security reasons
[10:58] <korhalf> linx, , dj linx?
[10:58] <Seveas> linx, then you need to configure proftpd :)
[10:58] <linx> ya
[10:58] <joshi_> hello.. i got quick question: is it pointy to s
[10:58] <Seveas> linx, /usr/share/doc/proftpd/* helps
[10:59] <joshi_> shut down linux or let it go stand by?
[10:59] <Seveas> joshi_, it saves energy
[10:59] <theblue_> Hi all.
[10:59] <Seveas> hi
[10:59] <corresponder> hi u
[10:59] <theblue_> I have a suggestion for Ubuntu.
[10:59] <Seveas> cool
[10:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> can someone run me thoough how to install bitlbee
[10:59] <Seveas> !info bitlbee
[10:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> yea an installer
[10:59] <jenco> !info kde
[10:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> theblue_
[10:59] <ubotu> bitlbee: (An IRC to other chat networks gateway), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.92-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 289 kB, Installed size: 764 kB
[11:00] <theblue_> Here's my idea: alias "exit" to "clear && logout", so that the screen is cleared and then the logoin prompt is displayed.
[11:00] <ubotu> kde: (The K Desktop Environment), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[11:00] <Comrade_Vladimir> !info bitlbee
[11:00] <Jared> i still can't get JAVA to work
[11:00] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, apt-get install bitlbee, connect your irc client to it
[11:00] <theblue_> BenUrban: Where're you?
[11:00] <Comrade_Vladimir> i dont want to use it for irc i use x chat or game for that
[11:00] <joshi_> Seveas: ok... ill consider that aspect
[11:00] <mindtriggerz[h] > theblue_: ::1
[11:00] <theblue_> mindtriggerz[h] : ?
[11:01] <theblue_> BenUrban: I only see an IP.
[11:01] <BenUrban> if you don't see a wifi network called URBAN you're not my neighbor ;)
[11:01] <BenUrban> oh :/
[11:01] <BenUrban> theblue_: silver spring
[11:01] <theblue_> I'm in bethesda.
[11:02] <mindtriggerz[h] > theblue_: ::1 is the IPv6 <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <theblue_> mindtriggerz[h] : Ah.
[11:02] <theblue_> mindtriggerz[h] : I know nothing about IPv6.
[11:02] <mindtriggerz[h] > :)
[11:02] <theblue_> mindtriggerz[h] : But what about it?
[11:02] <mindtriggerz[h] > I only know that
[11:02] <mindtriggerz[h] > that's where I am
[11:02] <mindtriggerz[h] > ::1
[11:02] <theblue_> ...
[11:02] <Seveas> There's no place like ::1
[11:02] <BenUrban> theblue_: anyway, in response to your comment about using clear, i have clear in my .bash_logout, which works just fine
[11:02] <k31th_> who watches smallville for the hot chick ?
[11:03] <mindtriggerz[h] > k31th_: not I
[11:03] <theblue_> There'
[11:03] <theblue_> There's no place like <IP_ADDRESS>.
[11:03] <theblue_> There's no place like <IP_ADDRESS>.
[11:03] <theblue_> There's no place like <IP_ADDRESS>.
[11:03] <mindtriggerz[h] > lol
[11:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> seveas ok now how do i use it
[11:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> and why r u bannin people
[11:03] <CyBuX> hi all
[11:03] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, connect your irc client to it
[11:03] <Rockj> Hey again. After the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx , I get a error while trying to run glxgears. error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: .. missing some opengl package? :/
[11:03] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, in that case: flooding
[11:03] <CyBuX> i need help
[11:03] <corresponder> with?
[11:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> hmm ok how do i do that now
[11:03] <CyBuX> i need install ubuntu on intel 64 bits
[11:04] <CyBuX> what is the better option to do?
[11:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> get the ubuntu 64 bit disc
[11:04] <CyBuX> ubuntu amd64?
[11:04] <Seveas> yes
[11:04] <silverton> 0.o
[11:04] <CyBuX> ok, thanks
[11:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do i link bitlbee to itc
[11:04] <silverton> I thought there were two different discs for intel and amd 64bit processors
[11:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> hi cafuego
[11:05] <Ng> silverton: depends which intel 64bit processor
[11:05] <CyBuX> differents versions?
[11:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> sure
[11:05] <Ng> silverton: the emt64 ones are the same as amd64, but itaniums are a different architecture
[11:05] <cafuego> There's Itanic and E64mt
[11:05] <aris[glande] > hey, how do i know which repository a package is from
[11:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> who has an itanium in a pc now
[11:05] <cafuego> if you have an e64mt, just install i386
[11:05] <Seveas> aris[glande] , apt-cache policy $package
[11:06] <Comrade_Vladimir> me?
[11:06] <cafuego> It will save you much headache and frustration.
[11:06] <aris[glande] > thanks !
[11:06] <Comrade_Vladimir> so how do i link irc to bitlbee! cmon
[11:06] <cafuego> Comrade_Vladimir: 'man ln'
[11:06] <k31th_> wot?
[11:07] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, man bitlbee
[11:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> just that hmm seems to easy cafuego
[11:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> which one is it
[11:07] <cafuego> Comrade_Vladimir: In many ways, it is ;-)
[11:07] <Ng> Comrade_Vladimir: ignore cafuego ;)
[11:07] <cafuego> s/it is/I am/
[11:07] <Eugene_> Hey, is there a comprehensive site for linux programs or even better one with an .iso I can download? When I install ubuntu on the spare it probably won't have internet so apt-get wouldn't work.
[11:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> it says  Manual page bitlbee(8) line 1 what do i do about it
[11:08] <Ng> Comrade_Vladimir: read :)
[11:08] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, scroll down :)
[11:08] <Seveas> and read :)
[11:08] <Rockj> Hey again. After the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx , I get a error while trying to run glxgears. error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1:       Any idea on howto proceed? :/
[11:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> no scrolling possible there seveas
[11:09] <Comrade_Vladimir> need a paste bin or a screenshot?
[11:09] <cafuego> Comrade_Vladimir: Sure there is. allow down or spacebar
[11:09] <Ophiocus> dowm arrow, page down, even space in some systems
[11:09] <cafuego> s/allow/arrow/
[11:09] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh thnx
[11:09] <Subhuman> hi, ive been running ubuntu for a while now, but im making a file server for my network, can anyon e tell me the major differences between the server install and the desktop one? is it just lack og x11 and GNOME?
[11:09] <Seveas> Subhuman, correct
[11:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok down what now will it work now
[11:10] <Subhuman> Seveas, so thats it?
[11:10] <corresponder> all in gnu is server-client working
[11:10] <corresponder> less or
[11:10] <sethk> Subhuman, there are other client things left out
[11:10] <Mitja> korhalf: could you please give me the link to your alsa.conf you posted?
[11:10] <Subhuman> Well basically, ill be using it for ssh, ftp and webserver. So i may as well just install ther server version.
[11:10] <sethk> Subhuman, it's a server, so it doesn't need clients.  fairly straightforward
[11:11] <sethk> Subhuman, sure, that's what it's intended for.
[11:11] <SpLaTt> can someone help me out?
[11:11] <Subhuman> ok, well thanks, just wanted to make sure i knew what i was installing (or in this case, not)
[11:11] <Subhuman> see you around
[11:11] <Skidoo> got a problem - i just installed hoary and everything was working fine. then i ran Synaptic updates and now my machine won't boot. gets as far as uncompressing the kernel, then automatically reboots. i don't know what the problem could be. any idea?
[11:12] <SpLaTt> <---needs help
[11:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> so how do i use bitlbee now?
[11:12] <SpLaTt> <----helps needed
[11:12] <mz2> Skidoo: have you tried with the previous kernel images in the boot list
[11:12] <mwe> SpLaTt: don't repeat. just ask a question
[11:13] <SpLaTt> oh
[11:13] <Skidoo> mz2: there aren't any previous kernel images in the menu, unfortunately
[11:14] <Skidoo> i'm just wondering if it could perhaps be a hardware issue
[11:14] <mz2> Skidoo: it could indeed, but more likely is that hoary just fucked up :)
[11:14] <SpLaTt> ok, im installing linux (i got from ur site download page) onto a comp with an old bios. so i made the smart boot floppy. it load, has alot of harddisks, 1 cd rom and a primany 1. i click the cd rom and i get an error message 0x0C
[11:14] <mz2> Skidoo: you could always boot up using the live cd, chroot to your installation and try upgrading again
[11:15] <mz2> or at least you could look at bootup logs
[11:15] <mz2> oh but it probably doesn't get far enough to even start loggin?
[11:15] <mz2> logging
[11:15] <Seveas> SpLaTt, how old is that machine? Could you give some more details about it
[11:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> hello back to my bitlbee konvers
[11:15] <indypende> hi all
[11:15] <Skidoo> mz2: yup. there won't be a boot log, and i already tried the live cd and chroot thing, but it did the same thing
[11:16] <indypende> why i get totem crash saying "The video output is in use by another application"?
[11:16] <Mabus06> Seveas, I don't have a preferences menu in xchat anymore how do I restore it
[11:16] <mz2> Skidoo: bugger. do you have /home on a separate partition?
[11:16] <Seveas> Mabus06, settings -> preferences
[11:17] <Skidoo> mz2: yep. sure do
[11:17] <SpLaTt> its an compaq, pen 3. 667. compaq desktop EN
[11:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> How do I USE BITLBEE NOW WHY DID EVERYONE STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONVERSATION!!!!
[11:17] <Skidoo> hmm. it may not be the kernel itself, cos it crashes at the uncompressing stage. could it be a grub issue?
[11:17] <jenco> @@
[11:17] <mz2> Skidoo: kill the bastard, and just reinstall and hope for the best? :)
[11:17] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, do not use caps and don't repeat
[11:18] <navarone> Comrade...I believe you simply connect to it in xchat as you would any other server...<?>
[11:18] <mz2> Skidoo: if you suspect that, put the livecd in and boot up using the boot menu on the cd?
[11:18] <RazboiniK> Hello, The evolution in ubuntu doesn't allow me to select multiple contacts at the same time or group them by categories, is there a plugin missing or is that evolution version?
[11:18] <Skidoo> mz2: unfortunately, that's what i've just done! i had installed previously, but a similar thing happened, and i've just got around to reinstalling tonight :(
[11:18] <trappist> Comrade_Vladimir: bitlbee has documentation.  if you have a specific question maybe you'll have better luck asking that.
[11:18] <Skidoo> mz2: i can boot from the live cd ok
[11:19] <mz2> Skidoo: no, but as in boot from the live cd using the initrd and kernel image from your hd?
[11:19] <SpLaTt> Compaq Desktpro EN Series. pen3. 667 ******
[11:19] <mz2> the boot cd has grub, too? or is it isolinux or the like? then that probably doesn't work, or am not sure how
[11:20] <Skidoo> mz2: hmm. not sure if i'd be able to boot from the hd using the live cd
[11:20] <RazboiniK> anyone has solved that problem with evolution?
[11:20] <rhoffaa> im trying to send a file with gftp and i keep getting error saying not a directory
[11:20] <Skidoo> grub has to know where the kernel image lives
[11:20] <rhoffaa> why wont it let me send?
[11:21] <rhoffaa> it says couldnt change local directory then my directory the files is then not a directory
[11:21] <cafuego> Oh dear, transset and Remote Desktop *really* are not friends.
[11:21] <mz2> yes, but have you noticed you can edit those things on the fly when booting up? the place that's used as root, the lpace where initrd is, the kernel image and so oin
[11:22] <Skidoo> mz2: right. ok. but wouldn't i need to know the exact location on the hard disk?
[11:22] <rhoffaa> anyone know of that problem when transfering files with gftp
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> I'm having an issue with tpb (ThinkPad buttons), that seems to be permissions-related.
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> The program needs to access /dev/nvram, which has its permissions set as crw-rw----.
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> The owner:group is root:nvram.
[11:24] <Skidoo> question is... what process uncompresses the kernel, and why's it crashing the machine?
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> I noticed that even if I changed the permission, it would revert upon reboot.  Anyone know why?
[11:25] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, sudo adduser $USER nvram
[11:25] <SpLaTt> ill try again... Compaq Desktop EN Series. 667. pent3. = old bios. cant be updated. make a smart boot floppy. selects only cd section. gets an error msg. 0x0C (and i dont know if this makes much or a different, but the linux isnt an image on my cd, but seperate files)
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: That should do it; thanks.  For future reference though relating to my first thought, why would something revert like that?
[11:26] <rhoffaa> anyone able to help with a gftp problem
[11:26] <Mabus06> How do I restore the settings menu on xchat
[11:26] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, /dev/is dynamically created on boot by udev
[11:26] <rhoffaa> its on the linux end the problem not the remote (xbox)
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Ah, that would do it.
[11:27] <cafuego> SpLaTt: A P3 should have no issues simply booting the CD directly.
[11:27] <SpLaTt> it doesnt tho.
[11:28] <SpLaTt> my bios doesnt let or something
[11:28] <cafuego> SpLaTt: Any chance the CD is busted? Can you test it on a different machine?
[11:28] <Manda> ##/apple
[11:28] <SpLaTt> well i can explore the cd no problem. and on my main it does an auto extract and stuff. and i dont think thats the problem
[11:29] <Manda> ##apple
[11:29] <Manda> join/##apple
[11:29] <Seveas> Manda, /join ##apple
[11:29] <Manda> thank
[11:29] <Manda> thanks
[11:29] <none> good evening, how do I make dvd playback work on my new laptop, have installed libdvdcss2 but no luck
[11:30] <Seveas> none, which player are you using?
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> none: I think there's a new package now, libdvdread3, that replaces it.  And depending on where you are, maybe regionset.
[11:31] <surfdue> is there a program to log all ssh sudo command usage?
[11:31] <surfdue> i have a friend im leaving he has sudo
[11:31] <surfdue> wanna make sure he is ok, heh
[11:31] <Seveas> surfdue, sudo already logs
[11:31] <cafuego> surfdue: all sudo usage is already logged to syslog
[11:31] <Seveas> in auth.log
[11:31] <surfdue> kk
[11:31] <surfdue> thanks
[11:31] <rhoffaa> i have found other people with my gftp problem on a webpage and theres no answer posted, does anyone know why i keep getting cant change local directory error message
[11:32] <none> Seveas, which do you recomend, tried xine, don't like it much
[11:32] <Seveas> none, totem-xine is my favourite
[11:32] <Seveas> you might need w32codecs too
[11:32] <none> tonyyarusso, will try that now, thanks
[11:33] <surfdue> how do you enable root su?
[11:33] <BenUrban> how do i reconfigure xorg?
[11:33] <dooglus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:33] <BenUrban> thx
[11:34] <bimberi> surfdue: sudo -i (will get you a root login shell)
[11:34] <dooglus> surfdue: if you want to use "su" instead of "sudo" you'll need to set the root password to something using "sudo passwd"
[11:35] <dooglus> surfdue: it's probably not a good idea though.  keep the root password locked.
[11:35] <surfdue> how do i unlock it
[11:35] <dooglus> surfdue: "sudo passwd" will unlock it.  "sudo passwd -l" will lock it again
[11:36] <beelzebub1987> eh
[11:36] <Seveas> hi Satan
[11:38] <rhoffaa> i have searched and read faqs and i still cant find out how to get past this cant change directory error in gftp does anyone know how to fix it
[11:38] <dooglus> rhoffaa: how can I see the problem?
[11:39] <Seveas> rhoffaa, can you put the complete error on the pastebin
[11:39] <rhoffaa> i dont know if you need to see it, i just keep getting an error message when trying to send individual files not really directories
[11:39] <rhoffaa> its short i can put it on here
[11:39] <Dido-> anyone here rights in cyrillics ?
[11:40] <kenny_> I'm sure this is heard very, very often...so...let's just say I completed all the steps on the FAQ for installing MP3 decoders and I'm still having trouble. Most common fix for this?
[11:40] <rhoffaa> Could not change local directory to /home/rhoffa/Desktop/XBMC/evoxdash.xbe: Not a directory
[11:40] <beelzebub1987> Anyone here ever try Unreal tournament Demo v348 on ubuntu?
[11:40] <Seveas> kenny_, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:40] <denisbr> Good Night
[11:40] <dooglus> rhoffaa: if we can't reproduce the problem, how can we help you fix it?
[11:40] <Seveas> rhoffaa, very simple, it's not a directory :)
[11:40] <rhoffaa> i just sent he error message above
[11:40] <dooglus> rhoffaa: it looks like you're trying to CD to a file rather than a directory, but it's hard to say
[11:40] <klausos>  i need to know why dhcp is not recognised
[11:40] <Seveas> rhoffaa, note: symlinks do NOT count as directories
[11:41] <rhoffaa> im trying to send 2 files individual to my xbox
[11:41] <BenUrban> what is the proper state of .Xauthority?
[11:41] <rhoffaa> i already sent a directory
[11:41] <kenny_> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:41] <trappist> though you can cd to symlink/
[11:41] <BenUrban> (before starting x)
[11:41] <kenny_> Thanks.
[11:41] <kenny_> Did the trick.
[11:41] <beelzebub1987> Seveas, when I updated the fglrx driver from your repo my driver messed up and it kept saying I had Mesa no matter what I did, so I ended up reinstalling ubuntu ='(
[11:41] <Seveas> beelzebub1987, did you install both kernel and xorg driver?
[11:42] <rhoffaa> i sent awhe xbmc folder to my box, but the 2 individual files wont send to a different directory on the xbox
[11:42] <beelzebub1987> heh, wouldn't remember
[11:42] <BenUrban> ooh maybe that's what screwed p my xorg
[11:42] <BenUrban> *up
[11:42] <denisbr> Ubuntu respect the Contract Social Debian?
[11:42] <beelzebub1987> It just said I had updates on the update manager
[11:42] <lampshade> Is there kinda an enlightenment-desktop like there is a gnome-desktop, etc?  Is enlightenment in the normal repos or is it in world or universe?  How do I ask ubotu about packages so I don't have to bothter you people?
[11:42] <beelzebub1987> and I updated like I usually do
[11:42] <rhoffaa> this isnt an xbox problem though its something with gftp
[11:42] <FarrisG> I have a bunch of USB hard drives that may or may not be plugged in at boot time. However, whether they're plugged in or not seems to determine the /dev/sd* node that my RAID card drives get, since the usb-storage mod gets loaded first and udev/hotplug creates the nodes. Is there an easy way to always map my RAID card drives to a /dev/something* symlink, so that it doesn't matter which order the /dev/sd* drives are in?
[11:42] <trappist> denisbr: the debian social contract?
[11:42] <beelzebub1987> doesn't matter now though, I'm using the 8.20.8 driver, works much better than 16
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> lampshade: !whateveryouneedtoknowabout
[11:42] <kt0xd> help please i have problem with the ltsp!!!!
[11:43] <selinium> lampshade, apt-cache search <app>
[11:43] <Seveas> beelzebub1987, that's quite important, the upgrade there only installs the xorg driver, not the kernel module!
[11:43] <BenUrban> FarrisG: i have that same issue with my wifi card
[11:43] <beelzebub1987> Has anyone here tried Unreal Tournament Demo v348 (linux version)?
[11:43] <trappist> kt0xd: the trick is to ask a question
[11:43] <denisbr> trappist, yes, the ubuntu is based in the Contract Social Debian? http://www.debian.org/social_contract
[11:43] <cowbud> !beer
[11:43] <BenUrban> Seveas: so you broke my xorg?
[11:43] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me to get kopete to work in both sending and recieving webcam? I can do either but not at the same time.
[11:43] <beelzebub1987> I see seveas, thanks. Had I known that then I woulda saved a lot of hassle =(
[11:43] <selinium> lampshade, http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[11:43] <rhoffaa> saveas or dooglas what should i do to get this files sent?
[11:43] <Seveas> BenUrban, I broke nothing :)
[11:43] <kt0xd> sorry but i don speak english can you help me?
[11:44] <kt0xd> what is the trick
[11:44] <dooglus> rhoffaa: did you try using "ftp" instead of "gftp"?
[11:44] <beelzebub1987> my xorg is perfect now, so I'm happy =)
[11:44] <Seveas> kt0xd, #ubuntu-es may help
[11:44] <BenUrban> Seveas: how do i make sure that your drivers are not installed?
[11:44] <rhoffaa> no someone told me to dl this
[11:44] <rhoffaa> i willthough
[11:44] <kt0xd> ok thank you
[11:44] <Seveas> BenUrban, don't use my repository
[11:44] <BenUrban> ...
[11:44] <rhoffaa> thanks
[11:44] <beelzebub1987> lol benurban
[11:44] <beelzebub1987> it's true
[11:44] <BenUrban> can't i mask packages in ubuntu?
[11:44] <Seveas> BenUrban, but now that I know this, I'll fix it
[11:44] <trappist> beelzebub1987: you only THINK it's perfect.  I started playing with FontPaths and stuff yesterday, and I've never been happier with the way my desktop looks.
[11:44] <rhoffaa> ho do i run ftp?
[11:45] <beelzebub1987> trappist, what?
[11:45] <selinium> BenUrban, yes, but I can't remember how!
[11:45] <BenUrban> lmao
[11:45] <dooglus> rhoffaa: open a terminal.  type "ftp <hostname>" or "ftp <ip-address>"
[11:45] <trappist> beelzebub1987: I'm just saying there's a lot more that can be done.  if it ain't broke, tweak it!
[11:45] <BenUrban> meanwhile i need to revert to the official fglrx stuff
[11:45] <BenUrban> how do i get them back?
[11:45] <beelzebub1987> trappist, thanks for the tip, I'll do some tweaking when I get the time =)
[11:45] <Seveas> BenUrban, this is the official fglrx stuff
[11:45] <BenUrban> ...
[11:45] <diesel> Anyone know how to get a listing of at jobs that shows what will actually run?
[11:46] <Seveas> BenUrban, install the kernel module from my repo and it's complete
[11:46] <BenUrban> Seveas: how do i do that?
[11:46] <trappist> Dido-: atq?
[11:46] <beelzebub1987> BenUrban, either do that or install the latest ati drivers form the ati website
[11:46] <dooglus> Dido-: "at -c"?
[11:46] <mwe> diesel: list that shows what will run?
[11:46] <Seveas> beelzebub1987, these are the latest ati.com drivers
[11:46] <BenUrban> :/
[11:46] <beelzebub1987> oh?
[11:46] <beelzebub1987> when I updated it was .19
[11:46] <beelzebub1987> something
[11:46] <Seveas> afk, fixing the packages
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> Thanks =)
[11:47] <roune> how do i install xmms on ubuntu?
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> you must have updated them in a few days worth
[11:47] <mlehrer> what is the best way to get the complete set of video codecs to work on ubuntu
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> in that case, good job Seveas =P
[11:47] <BenUrban> mlehrer: w32codecs maybe?
[11:47] <rhoffaa> haha ughhhhhhhh is there a front end for any other ftp?
[11:47] <rhoffaa> i cant get it working
[11:47] <kt0xd> roune do $ sudo aptitude install xmms
[11:47] <roughtrader> question: I have a dual-core opteron machine, should I install ubuntu for amd64?
[11:47] <rhoffaa> im getting pissssed
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> or "sudo apt-get install wxvlc
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> woops
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> I mean
[11:47] <beelzebub1987> yeah
[11:47] <mlehrer> BenUrban: i don't see that package available with apt-get
[11:47] <dooglus> rhoffaa: maybe try again when you're sober?
[11:48] <beelzebub1987> wxvlc is a very nice media player
[11:48] <roune> omg
[11:48] <BenUrban> mlehrer: dunno exactly what it's called
[11:48] <roune> how can u know all thos stuff!
[11:48] <Skidoo> anyone know if there's a list of known ubuntu kernel issues anywhere?
[11:48] <roune> it worked anyway, thanks!
[11:48] <rhoffaa> haha my ftp skills arent to good, and its already giving me trouble entering my username when i know it is xbox
[11:48] <BenUrban> ...
[11:48] <BenUrban> why is your username xbox? ;)
[11:48] <beelzebub1987> lol;
[11:48] <rhoffaa> you havnt heard of anyone else having this problem with that error message i sent you earlier so i could just fix that and get on
[11:48] <dooglus> 'cos the FTP server is running on an xbox...
[11:48] <k31th_> lol
[11:49] <diesel> For example, if I atq i get the following output: 3       2005-12-15 11:55 a root.  How do I see what 3 is actually going to run?
[11:49] <rhoffaa> yea
[11:49] <k31th_> yeah im going to turn my xbox into a ftp server i think
[11:49] <rhoffaa> i want it for xbmc
[11:49] <k31th_> i have that atm
[11:49] <k31th_> xbmc is the shit yall
[11:49] <rhoffaa> but, i cant get the xbmc.xbe and xml over, the directory will transfer but those two files individually in another directory wont work
[11:50] <k31th_> i have an old p2 for a router atm
[11:50] <BenUrban> k31th_: language
[11:50] <k31th_> soz
[11:50] <roughtrader> question: I have a dual-core opteron machine, should I install ubuntu for amd64?
[11:50] <k31th_> wouldnt mind sticking a diff distro on it tho
[11:50] <k31th_> if i can get the ADSL card to work :p
[11:50] <rhoffaa> but i wish someone could help me with this problem anyone ever have ftping problems
[11:50] <Mabus06> Anyone know of a program that can send and recieve webcam at the same time, that can be used between an ubuntu computer and a windows one?
[11:51] <gleesond> I just installed kde and it doesn't seem to be working right... is there a set of pakages that I might need to make it work correctly in ubuntu?
[11:51] <dooglus> diesel: I already told you.  "at -c"  like "at -c 3" to see job 3
[11:52] <diesel> dooglus: well, I asked in different way, didn't I...in which you gava different anser
[11:52] <roune> kt0xd , it started to do something, but when it was done with the jibberish, it said like no packages installed
[11:53] <cafuego> roughtrader: Yes, you should.
[11:53] <cafuego> roughtrader: I'm fairly sure opterons won't run i386 stuff anyway.
[11:53] <rudiz> how i get rid of the Debian-menu inKmenu?
[11:54] <bullitt_> some fonts have dissapeared in firefox, even when I highlight them, cannot see what is typed
[11:54] <BenUrban> deja vu
[11:54] <bullitt_> well, I did ask it before
[11:55] <aguazer0> hi
[11:55] <corresponder> ho
[11:55] <BenUrban> yeah, an hour ago
[11:55] <BenUrban> lol
[11:55] <BenUrban> most people aren't that patient :P
[11:55] <bullitt_> and no one responded then, except for one person saying it happened since he upgraded
[11:55] <mwe> rudiz: I think you have to either uninstall menu or hack kde config files
[11:55] <m0biu5> Does anyone here use alltray?
[11:55] <picasso> hey, anybody use cantus on ubuntu?
[11:55] <picasso> its a nice gtk mp3/id3 renamer/tagger
[11:55] <mwe> rudiz: or it will put it back when you install something new
[11:56] <picasso> which apparently has only very old version included in ubuntu
[11:56] <roune> i tried the sudo aptitude install xmms, it said that no packages installed
[11:56] <rudiz> apt-get remove menus-xdg?
[11:56] <aguazer0> somebody knows what happen with avidemux package? yesterday it was in universe, but I can find it now
[11:56] <Seveas> roune, enable universe
[11:56] <riffic> hi I think I might be having alsa issues with dapper can anyone help me troubleshoot so I can file a bug?
[11:56] <Seveas> !info avidemux
[11:56] <eruin> picasso, you might want to check out tagtool
[11:56] <aguazer0> *can't
[11:56] <riffic> i use a cs42xx
[11:56] <picasso> ok, i'll try that
 Package 'avidemux' does not exist.
[11:56] <k31th_> anyone recomend a good mail & imap server?
[11:56] <BenUrban> Seveas: done fixing?
[11:56] <picasso> just need a good interface -- JJ MP3 Renamer for windows is the best i've used
[11:56] <Seveas> k31th_, I like courier
[11:56] <BenUrban> k31th_: courier
[11:56] <mwe> rudiz: no I believe it's just menu
[11:57] <riffic> er cs46xx
[11:57] <roughtrader> the nvidia drivers for video cards are really old for 64-bit linux
[11:57] <cafuego> Seveas: Ubotu doesn't have the extras repos.
[11:57] <rudiz> mve, removing menu-xdg is also good?
[11:57] <Seveas> BenUrban, no, waiting for something to download :)
[11:57] <BenUrban> ah
[11:57] <k31th_> courier is a imap server ?
[11:57] <BenUrban> k31th_: it is
[11:57] <Seveas> cafuego, he sais universe :)
[11:57] <rudiz> i wil try it
[11:57] <eruin> picasso, I'm sure you'll find tagtools interface pleasant :)
[11:57] <aguazer0> Seveas, but yesterday avidemux was in universe
[11:57] <k31th_> wat about a mail server ?
[11:57] <roughtrader> is it better to install the regular nvidia drivers even though using the 64-bit linux?
[11:57] <cafuego> roughtrader: They're the same as for i386 breezy (and they work fine)
[11:57] <Seveas> k31th_, imap/pop3/smtp/mailinglist
[11:57] <mlehrer> is there a bot on this channel?
[11:57] <aguazer0> I wonder why
[11:57] <roughtrader> sweet, thanks cafuego
[11:57] <BenUrban> Seveas: please pm me when it's fixed
[11:57] <cafuego> !bot
[11:57] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:57] <roune> how, do u want me to type that? i did anyway and it didnt work ^^
[11:57] <Seveas> BenUrban, will do
[11:57] <rudiz> Seveas, is it  ok to remove menu?
[11:57] <cafuego> !find bin/avidemux
[11:58] <k31th_> Seveas: whats it like at sending large amounts of email ?
[11:58] <Seveas> good
[11:58] <BenUrban> ;)
[11:58] <aguazer0> !find bin/avidemux
[11:58] <aguazer0> !find avidemux
[11:58] <Jared> i have java installed and firefox wont let me play runescape...any ideas
[11:58] <Rubin> whats the best way to edit files you only have ftp access to?
[11:58] <mlehrer> ubotu tell mlehrer about w32codecs
[11:58] <k31th_> Seveas: its ok to / secure / stable replacment for sendmail ?
[11:59] <Rubin> is there an easy ftp filesystem or something?
[11:59] <cafuego> k31th_: postfix+courier (with optional ldap/mysql auth backend) are a great system.
[11:59] <Seveas> k31th_, yup, I'm very happy with it
[11:59] <Khisanth> Jared: have "Enable Java" checked in your prefs?
[11:59] <mwe> rudiz: I do find the debian menu useful though, as not everything goes into the kde menu as far as I can tell
[11:59] <k31th_> courier is not actually  a mail server then? i need postfix as well ?
[11:59] <Jared> yes it says i need to download the plugin but there isn't one
[12:00] <Seveas> k31th_, k31th_ courier does imap/pop3/smtp/mailinglist
[12:00] <Seveas> no need for anything else