[08:19] <outlaw686> nathan: if you have it in your menu you can right click on it and either add the launcher to your desktop or to your panel
[08:19] <babuspidy> can anyone help me configuring audio input device for using skype
[08:20] <nathan> astro76: you're thinking of alt-f2
[08:20] <astro76> nathan, err no
[08:20] <nathan> astro76: make launcher doesn't have that
[08:20] <outlaw686> nathan: or just drag it
[08:20] <m0u5e> leo_rockw: okay i fixed the move problem by disabling lazy move, ... but it still doesnt render correctly with my "wiggle" plugin
[08:20] <leo_rockw> m0u5e, afaik... you can't get aceleration while using compiz
[08:20] <nathan> outlaw686: drag what
[08:20] <m0u5e> m0u5e: but ppracer used to work even with compiz-fusion enabled :X
[08:20] <astro76> nathan, there's a Type dropdown list with the options "application", "application in terminal" and "file"
[08:20] <leo_rockw> m0u5e, i read smth yday that you can't use direct rendering on the same display as compiz
[08:20] <nathan> wow thanks
[08:21] <leo_rockw> m0u5e, i'm not 100% sure, tho
[08:21] <cjsstables> hey all need some help on ubuntu install.  I was following directions from this web site to have an LVM install
[08:21] <m0u5e> leo_rockw: but it worked for a while with ppracer... until i upgraded to the intel graphics driver
[08:21] <m0u5e> leo_rockw: T_T;
[08:21] <outlaw686> np :) as with anything the trick to learning linux is having something to through other than your laptop
[08:21] <cjsstables> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[08:21] <babuspidy> can anyone help me configuring audio input device for using skype
[08:21] <arun> !flash
[08:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:21] <outlaw686> throw*
[08:22] <cjsstables> and every thing went fine until the last step which is to chroot /target.  I get an error message that i can't chroot
[08:22] <leo_rockw> cjsstables, use sudo for chroot
[08:22] <rafaelscj> !find haskell98
[08:23] <ubotu> Found: ghc6, ghc6-prof, haskell98-report, haskell98-tutorial
[08:23] <cjsstables> i did.  you want ther erro message I'm getting
[08:23] <outlaw686> please
[08:23] <leo_rockw> cjsstables, i won't be able to help you with that... sorry
[08:24] <Verilium> Hi there.  With apt-get (or anything else), is there a way to fet only 1 file from a package?
[08:24] <Verilium> err..  fetch.
[08:24] <leo_rockw> cjsstables, if it is not long just paste it here for all the rest to see
[08:24] <dissection> Anyone here tried setting a Linux Counterstrike Server on his Ubuntu Machine?
[08:24] <cjsstables> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:24] <outlaw686> verilium, man or info before apt-get or any program helps you out alot
[08:25] <cjsstables> can anyone help out with this error
[08:25] <intelikey> so anyone know, if init runs a script that calls:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y  :where will the output be ?   so i can check up on it, every few hours...   ?
[08:25] <Verilium> Hmm, there's something in the man page about that?  Must have missed it.
[08:25] <mainer> cjsstables: sudo chroot <mount-point>
[08:25] <Bjornalf> how do i check what version of ubuntu i have installed?
[08:26] <xtknight> Bjornalf, lsb_release -a
[08:26] <cjsstables> yep I did that.  the command I gave was sudo chroot /target
[08:26] <n2diy> cjsstables: yes, substitue chroot with sudo, and if that does't work, try ./filename
[08:26] <outlaw686> verilium, apt-get -d will download the package only
[08:27] <Verilium> outlaw686:  Hmm, I suppose that's a way to do it.
[08:27] <BrendanW> Why can't I move a file to usr/share/themes?
[08:27] <Bjornalf> ok and i know ATI's drivers suck but since my gaming rig died i'm stuck with a compaq as my only machine (besides my well outdated server).. how do i install ati's drivers?
[08:27] <doug__> how do i get firefox videos to play the sound
[08:27] <Flannel> !ati | Bjornalf
[08:27] <ubotu> Bjornalf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <cjsstables> same thing guys
[08:27] <Bjornalf> BrendanW: You probably need to be root
[08:28] <Cuzz> Hi, i am using 7.04 386 version, and i am unable to detect my USB flash disk. On the first few boots i could, and then all of a sudden it diappeared. Any clues anybody? Thank you
[08:28] <BrendanW> Bjornalf: Is that hard?
[08:28] <arun> does beryl run bug free in ubuntu? there were some weird kde-specific bugs when i was using it with kubuntu
[08:28] <outlaw686> cuzz, did you try restarting?
[08:28] <Cuzz> yes
[08:28] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, sudo "file" /usr/share/themes
[08:28] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, sudo cp "file" /usr/share/themes
[08:29] <intelikey> so anyone know, if init runs a script that calls:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y  :where will the output be ?   so i can check up on it, every few hours...   ?
[08:29] <Bjornalf> what leo said ;) (i'm slow this morning)
[08:29] <outlaw686> cuzz,what type of partition ?
[08:29] <Cuzz> ext3
[08:29] <Cuzz> it did work, then stopped
[08:29] <doug__> when i go to www.youtube.com the videos play fine but the sound wont play how do ifix this
[08:29] <outlaw686> cuzz, tried fat16 and fat32?
[08:29] <leo_rockw> Bjornalf, well... i forgot to put cp the first time... i'm slow too haha
[08:30] <outlaw686> cuzz, I think i know whats going on
[08:30] <intelikey> nobody ?
[08:30] <outlaw686> cuzz, did you mount the drive?
[08:30] <Cuzz> thanks ill try that
[08:30] <Cuzz> but is there another way?
[08:30] <admin__> hello
[08:30] <admin__> i got error when updating application
[08:30] <admin__> it says could not download all repository indexes
[08:30] <admin__> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:30] <outlaw686> cuzz, what program are you useing?
[08:31] <Cuzz> ubuntu 7.04? Not sure what you mean?
[08:31] <Jason5876> cuzz:
[08:31] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: If there is a space in the folders name, how would I type it in terminal?
[08:31] <intelikey> admin__ breezy   ?
[08:31] <outlaw686> to partion the flash dive
[08:31] <riniver> How do you apply patches to Pidgin?
[08:31] <outlaw686> drive*
[08:31] <BrendanW> sudo cp /home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium Gilouche /usr/share/themes/
[08:31] <TylerJGillies> how do you set network settings on the fly? like from /etc/network/interfaces but on the command line?
[08:31] <Verilium> brent_:  Escape the space with a \ before.
[08:31] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, use a \
[08:31] <admin__> intelikey  I am using ubuntu 5.1
[08:31] <Cuzz> In windows... I think it was NTFS?
[08:31] <flohrian> hi
[08:31] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: so, sudo cp /home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium\Gilouche /usr/share/themes/
[08:31] <soulrider_> does anyone know if its possible for bashto use colors in ubuntu like it does on gentoo?
[08:32] <Cuzz> How can i mount the  USB?
[08:32] <intelikey> admin__ that 5.10   october not january
[08:32] <Jason5876> Cuzz: is your flash drive fat?
[08:32] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, sudo cp ~/Desktop/Neutronium\ Gilouche /usr/share/themes
[08:32] <Cuzz> yes
[08:32] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, or use tab to autocomplete
[08:32] <BrendanW> Thank you, very much.
[08:32] <Jason5876> then  mkdir /mnt/usb       mount /dev/sda1 /usb
[08:32] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, np
[08:32] <Jason5876> should work
[08:32] <intelikey> admin__ but i don't think they will support 2 year old releases in here.
[08:32] <flohrian> i have got a problem with python + sockets.
[08:32] <admin__> intelikey:  I am trying to upgrade that to 6.06
[08:33] <haffe_> Hi. I'm having som trouble getting AIXGL to run on my Radeon 9200SE. This is the relevant section from Xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/ glxinfo gives the following server glx vendor string: SGI client glx vendor string: SGI OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:33] <doug__> when i go to www.youtube.com th videos play fine but i cant hear anything how do i fix this anyone anyone at all?
[08:33] <admin__> intelikey : how can i upgrade that to brezy? i have the cd with me
[08:33] <flohrian> i get "address already in use" when i start the script the second time.
[08:33] <intelikey> admin__ change the breezy to dapper on all lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list admin__
[08:33] <flohrian> SO_REUSEADDRESS doesnt work :'(
[08:33] <n2diy> intelikey: we solve proplems, old releases are supported IMHO.
[08:34] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: sudo cp /home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium\ Gilouche /usr/share/themes/ does not appear to have moved the folder.
[08:34] <intelikey> n2diy isn't breezy eol ?
[08:34] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: "cp: omitting directory `/home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium Gilouche'
[08:34] <BrendanW> "
[08:34] <admin__> intelikey : where should i change that lines?
[08:34] <Flannel> n2diy, intelikey, he wants ot upgrade to dapper.  Why wouldn't we support that?
[08:34] <n2diy> intelikey: Linux is linux.
[08:34] <Flannel> admin__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[08:35] <Flannel> admin__: that page gives you step by step, everything you need to know.
[08:35] <n2diy> Flannel: exactly.
 use the -r switch after cp
[08:35] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, go to ~/Desktop/Neutronium Gilouche. then "sudo cp * /usr/share/themes"
[08:35] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, or what yourdaddysdaddy said
[08:35] <intelikey> admin__ all lines.  in /etc/apt/sources.list    edit that file   change breezy  to  dapper   save and run   sudo apt-get update    then if that goes well you can upgrade
[08:36] <intelikey> n2diy can you answer my linux question ?
[08:36] <intelikey> so anyone know, if init runs a script that calls:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y  :where will the output be ?   so i can check up on it, every few hours...   ?
[08:36] <yog> how to make sound apear simultaniously on 2 devices for example wengo and firefox / where to look any url ... ?
[08:36] <mainer> BrendanW: if a folder use cp -r(it means recursively) most cmds tell proper syntax by <command> --help or -h
[08:36] <n2diy> intelikey: sorry, I missed, can you repeat it?
[08:36] <intelikey>                ^
[08:36] <facelifted> # Disable filename globbing.
[08:36] <facelifted> set -f
[08:36] <facelifted> what does globbing mean?
[08:36] <outlaw686> cuzz, your best bet (the way i know how to do it) is to install gparted( gnome partition editor), select your drive in the top right. remove all partitions on your flash drive and apply it. Then click on the unallocated space, select new  and create it as a fat16 partition. once that is done and applied right click on the partition and click manage flags. set it to "/" which is the boot and you should be good.
[08:36] <yog> ik devices not right word ... 2 programs
[08:37] <Kenyro> anyone got time to asnwer me certain things about wine
[08:37] <flohrian> nobody here who could help me?
[08:37] <doug__> flohrian im still waiting for help to
[08:37] <phreck> hey
[08:37] <nuu> facelifted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glob()
[08:38] <phreck> i need a graphical
[08:38] <jmdc> facelifted: globbing is pattern matching, as in *.c refers to all files that end in .c
[08:38] <BrendanW> sudo cp -r /home/brendan/Desktop/ Neutronium\ Gilouche /usr/share/themes/; cp: cannot stat `Neutronium Gilouche': No such file or directory
[08:38] <leo_rockw> is there any way to make terminal mplayer go forward only a couple of seconds?
[08:38] <BrendanW> I know that that file is there.
[08:38] <Jason5876> flohrian: more info.
[08:38] <BrendanW> Err, folder rather.
[08:38] <rockets> I just spent 10 hours getting ubuntu installed on nforce 4 fakeraid 1
[08:38] <rockets> And i got it!
[08:38] <Kenyro> gratz
[08:38] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, there's a space after Desktop/
[08:38] <facelifted> thanks nuu and jmdc , wel explained
[08:38] <BrendanW> Dur.
[08:38] <BrendanW> Thanks.
[08:38] <rockets> dmraid, not the most fully developed tool out there :-P
[08:38] <flohrian> Jason: wait a moment..
[08:38] <jmdc> how can I make a hostname resolve to different ip addresses depending on which network I am on?
[08:38] <Cuzz> K i did: mkdir /mnt/usb
[08:38] <Cuzz> Then I did: mount /dev/sda1
[08:38] <Cuzz> It gave the following:
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: /dev/disk/by-uuid/(Then a long code) already mounted or / busy
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[08:38] <nuu> np
[08:38] <phreck> I need a program for windows xp that will let me do some sort of remote xwindows
[08:38] <Cuzz> K i did: mkdir /mnt/usb
[08:38] <Cuzz> Then I did: mount /dev/sda1
[08:38] <Cuzz> It gave the following:
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: /dev/disk/by-uuid/(Then a long code) already mounted or / busy
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[08:38] <Cuzz> K i did: mkdir /mnt/usb
[08:38] <Flannel> !paste | Cuzz
[08:38] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, use tab to autocomplete... it is very useful
[08:38] <ubotu> Cuzz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:38] <Cuzz> Then I did: mount /dev/sda1
[08:38] <Cuzz> It gave the following:
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: /dev/disk/by-uuid/(Then a long code) already mounted or / busy
[08:38] <Cuzz> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[08:38] <Flannel> Cuzz: DONT PASTE HERE
[08:38] <Cuzz> sorry
[08:39] <outlaw686> cuzz, left a massive explanation for you the easy way if you look up
 sudo cp -r /home/brendan/Desktop/\ Neutronium\ Gilouche /usr/share/themes/
[08:39] <Jason5876> my bad....    didn't see a previous opst
[08:39] <admin__> intelikey: the sources.list is read only
[08:39] <Jason5876> post
[08:39] <arun> !restricted
[08:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <n2diy> ! enter | CuZZ
[08:39] <ubotu> CuZZ: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:39] <intelikey> admin__ you edit it as root
[08:39] <intelikey> admin__ just save into your home.
[08:39] <flohrian> Jason: should i upload my code?
[08:39] <faileas> phreck: xming if you want to use it with ubuntu as is. alternately you can use freenx client on windows, and freenx server on ubuntu
[08:39] <intelikey> admin__ then you can sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt
[08:40] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, when you're typing the folder's name use the tab key to autocomplete
[08:40] <phreck> awesome
[08:40] <Flannel> admin__: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:40] <Flannel> intelikey: Theres no reason to copy it
[08:40] <blade> blade
[08:40] <n2diy> ! pastebin | flohrian
[08:40] <ubotu> flohrian: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:40] <intelikey> Flannel if he has already edited and can't save   just save to haome and copy over
[08:41] <intelikey> Flannel but this is your channel i'll leave.
[08:41] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: Thanks, but sudo cp -r /home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium\ Gilouche/ /usr/share/themes didn't work either.
[08:41] <n2diy> Someday I'll learn how to use my keyboard?
[08:41] <BrendanW> :/
[08:41] <flohrian> n2diy: I know where to upload. ;)
[08:41] <flohrian> I just asked if should upload.
[08:41] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, are you sure that's the name of the folder? linux is case sensitive
[08:41] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[08:41] <BrendanW> I did it using Tab
[08:42] <Cuzz> outlaw686: I cant install gparted because i need to install i a few packages manually for the internet to work.  am following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband
[08:42] <BrendanW> So I'd assume so.
[08:42] <Kenyro> oh boy... I'm trying to decide here wether I should install Kubuntu on my comp, I play mainly WoW and CS 1.6 and it's really important not to lose important, well WoW should be running lag free and CS @100 fps.. qry pls
[08:42] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, what was the error message?
[08:42] <n2diy> flohrian, roger that, go for it.
[08:42] <Flannel> Kenyro: WoW runs fine, I think CS should too, but I don't know for a fact.
[08:42] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: There wasn't one.
[08:43] <BrendanW> brendan@brendans-room:~$ sudo cp -r /home/brendan/Desktop/Neutronium\ Gilouche/ /usr/share/themes
[08:43] <BrendanW> brendan@brendans-room:~$
[08:43] <Flannel> Kenyro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[08:43] <flohrian> http://pastebin.com/m20fea86f
[08:43] <Bjornalf> BrendanW: you use nautilus as a file manager right?
[08:43] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, then it worked
[08:43] <flohrian> this simple script just dont works.
[08:43] <BrendanW> but the file is still on the desktop
[08:43] <BrendanW> did it just copy?
[08:43] <doug__> can someone give me advice on my question?
 have a look at http://appdb.winehq.org/ and search for the application
[08:43] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, yeah, you copied it, not moved it
[08:43] <Bjornalf> BrendanW: yeah cp is copy.. mv would move it
[08:43] <BrendanW> :]
[08:43] <BrendanW> Oh.
[08:44] <SteamMachine> Howdy Doody
[08:44] <leo_rockw> !ask | doug__
[08:44] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[08:44] <ubotu> doug__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:44] <Kenyro> thank you very much!
[08:45] <doug__> leo_rockw i have asked but will again i go to www.youtube.com the vids play fine but the sound wont play
[08:45] <leo_rockw> doug__, if nobody helped you then maybe nobody can help you right now
[08:45] <outlaw686> cuzz, not to sure, i know its on the live cd though. would help you get your flash drive working so you can tackle that bigger issue
[08:46] <BrendanW> leo_rockw: One last question. I'm using Emerald Theme Editor, but want to use a theme in the System :: Themes menu.
[08:46] <BrendanW> How would I do that?
[08:46] <yourdaddysdaddy> That could have gone better :p
[08:46] <leo_rockw> doug__, that happened to me. i'm not sure what i did to solve it, tho. i think i installed the latest version of alsa
[08:46] <BrendanW> doug__: reset.
[08:46] <BrendanW> Mine did the same thing until I reset.
[08:46] <leo_rockw> BrendanW, i don't use gnome, so i wouldn't be able to guide you
[08:46] <BrendanW> :/ Oh, nevermind.
[08:46] <BrendanW> Thanks guys.
[08:46] <BrendanW> Goodnight.
[08:48] <leo_rockw> Yeah, i think i'm leaving too. everybody have a good day/night
[08:49] <slater> Is anyone sucessfully dual booting on an asus p5b mobo? I have a feeling jmicron is to blame.. Essentially grub cant see my ide drive at boot where as sata is fine. Once the system is up (feisty) the ide disk is mounted fine though...
[08:50] <doug__> how do i make it where im in the dsktop at the term is it cd ~/dekstop ?
[08:51] <BFrank> yup
[08:51] <slater> I've gone as far as trying differant hd locations via the grub menu but it just cant see this ide drive (XP). Any ideas?
[08:51] <Cuzz> I am having the same troubles with p5k MB. I can not get windows to install, have you tied updating the  bios. I no expert, just asking out of experience
[08:51] <jmdc> doug__: cd ~/Desktop
[08:52] <jmdc> its case sensitive
[08:52] <dijix> in gnome, when you set the transparency of a panel, shouldn't items on it also be transparent?  I seem to remember it being that way when I set them originally
[08:52] <slater> Cuzz: That's a very good point. I have windows installed fine on the ide drive (Had to install as only drive connected) just yeah grub can't see it. I'll jump over to blowz and try a bios update. Cheers.
[08:52] <doug__> jmdc thats what i ment just mispelled it jmdc when i do that i get bash: cd ~/desktop: No such file or directory
[08:53] <BFrank> he said to use Desktop
[08:53] <BFrank> instead of desktop
[08:53] <jmdc> doug__: be sure to use capital D
[08:53] <rotyyu> hello every body
[08:53] <Kenyro> Okay, one more thing: I'm being honest aswell as noobish now ;) I never used linux whatsoever, so I'll just give it a try. Do I need any basic knowledge of linux, after successfully installing Ubuntu?
[08:54] <doug__> thnks jmdv got it
[08:54] <riniver> How do i remove a website from my apt-get list? it's a WINE one that times out every time and maeks apt-get update take ages
[08:54] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[08:54] <soulrider_> uhm, where can i find a global bashrc file? one that affects all users?
[08:54] <BFrank> man, I wish feisty had been able to use Xorg 7.3, it is pretty nice detecting my refresh rate
[08:54] <Flannel> soulrider_: in /etc
[08:54] <dijix> riniver: you need to delete a line from your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:55] <slater> Cuzz: as a side note, if that mobo is similar to that one, take a look at your sata/ide setup in bios. I had similar issues and had to do a little tweaking. (Ie AHCI mode for sata) That jmicron is a real pain though. Won't even boot dapper or <.
[08:55] <westly> I am using gnashcash, where is the data store?
[08:55] <tadp> how to change the screen resolution and refresh rate manually in xorg.conf
[08:55] <slater> Cuzz: At the moment I'm dual booting via bios hd selection.
[08:55] <jmdc> Kenyro: my advice is to experiment. Be bold. Ask questions. and take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html ( no need to read it all!)
[08:56] <tadp> please help me :::how to change the screen resolution and refresh rate manually in xorg.conf
[08:56] <MadViolinis1> G'day, I've been having some troubles with Feisty freezing on me. It seems to mainly happen when using Firefox, but have had it happen when using Opera. I've got the system monitor boxes and nothing seems to show up there. I've taken a look at the log but can't really see anything. The only way to unfreeze is to restart. Any ideas?
[08:56] <Flannel> !fixres | tadp
[08:56] <ubotu> tadp: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:56] <sugy> johan
[08:56] <jisatsu> is it possible to unmount and check the /home partition without rebooting?
[08:56] <Cuzz> yeah i tried all the settings (AHCI IDE etc) but windows keeps reinstalling itself. Also 6.06 and 6.10 just hangs when i tried to install it
[08:56] <sugy> hai
[08:57] <Cuzz> so now im stuck trying to connect with to the internet with 7.04
[08:57] <westly> normally what directory ubuntun install all the program? like XP programs files...
[08:57] <Kenyro> I guess once I finished installing it, I won't have internet connection, so thats why I'm asking now, so I won't get gimped... A lot of stuff to memorize, I'm getting kinda nervous ^^
[08:57] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[08:57] <Cuzz> outlaw: Is gparted on ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[08:57] <slater> Cuzz: Not sure on the windows issue but if that mobo has the jmicron go straight for Feisty. There was an issue with the chipset whereby like you say the installer just wont run.
[08:57] <Flannel> Kenyro: why won't you have an internet connection?  (I imagine that'd be the first thing to figure out how to fix)
[08:58] <Kenyro> because I'll need to have the network drivers installed, at least in Windows I have to..
[08:58] <Nubbie> hi guys, i have a problem with my swap partition. it's not enabled after boot! i need to go into gparted and turn swapon every time i turn my computer on. can somebody help me figure this out please?
[08:59] <jmdc> westly: the directory structure is different. /bin and /usr/bin have most of the executables. /etc is configuration files
[08:59] <astro76> Kenyro, wireless?
[08:59] <voradams> Now this is anoying, i installed both kubuntu and buntu 7.04, i know that the usb beklin wireless adapter works "out of the box" after checking the webpage, i can see my wireless router, but can not connect with and without wpa encryption. any ideas people?
[08:59] <Kenyro> nope
[08:59] <astro76> Kenyro, if it's wired it will just work in linux
[08:59] <westly> jmdc: I am looking for the data file assciate with the program homebank
[09:00] <astro76> westly, this will list all files in a package: dpkg -L <packagename>
[09:00] <Kenyro> good to hear, well thank you all very much for your help. I'll get a dvd and pray for KUbuntu to work... KUbuntu is somewhat better than Ubuntu, right?
[09:00] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[09:00] <Nubbie> !swap > Nubbie
[09:00] <astro76> westly, you can do it in synaptic too
[09:01] <Nubbie> kenyro: no, it just has a different GUI. it's personal taste.
[09:01] <astro76> Kenyro, no, it's Ubuntu with kde, and either can be added from the other
[09:01] <westly> I need to look for the data that I have save in XP My documents
[09:01] <TylerJGillies> where is my Xclients file located at?
[09:01] <Nubbie> westly: so mount the drive.
[09:01] <Kenyro> ah, good to know, I read kde is supposed to be more stable
[09:01] <Nubbie> kenyro: i'd debate that.
[09:02] <Coward> Hey
[09:02] <westly> I am actually looking for the data that I have save in linux just like winxp my documents, is there any such directory?
[09:02] <Nubbie> westly: your home directory.
[09:02] <slater> westly: /home/username
[09:02] <jmdc> kenyro: you're about to stir up one of the worst flame wars in the world
[09:02] <astro76> westly, gnucash (and all programs really) will store data under your home directory (~/),
[09:02] <mainer> or try /home/username/Desktop
[09:02] <Kenyro> I truly apologize :S ^^
[09:03] <westly> I used homebank which install in add/remove, but cannot find the data that have saved
[09:03] <westly> "homebank"
[09:03] <Nubbie> Kenyro: there's a reason canonical use GNOME as their default. but feel free to test out lots of different window managers. its fun :)
[09:03] <slater> It's ok Kenyro, xubuntu is the best anyway ;)
[09:03] <slater> Hehe
[09:03] <Kenyro> I hate you guys -.- I'm confused
[09:04] <astro76> Kenyro, your best bet might be to install Ubuntu, then install the kubuntu-desktop package and try both (you can do the same with xubuntu-desktop)
[09:04] <jmdc> kenyro: just be cool ... picking between gnome and kde is one of the biggest flames on the interent
[09:04] <Nubbie> kenyro: unlike windows or OSX, you're allowed to use different GUIs on top of the base system. each was made for a different purpose, and each has their pros and cons. test them out.
[09:04] <slater> Linux = choice. That's really all there is to it. You get many many more options generally. Like someone mentioned above it's all down to taste.
[09:04] <MadViolinis1> G'day, I've been having some troubles with Feisty freezing on me. It seems to mainly happen when using Firefox, but have had it happen when using Opera. I've got the system monitor boxes and nothing seems to show up there. I've taken a look at the log but can't really see anything. The only way to unfreeze is to restart. Any ideas?
[09:05] <m0u5e> anyone else use a i810/845/855GM graphics card in here?
[09:05] <voradams> please people, some wifi help here. this usb wireless adapter should run out of the box, why cant not get a dhcp autoconfig here?
[09:05] <TylerJGillies> kde is for kids
[09:05] <astro76> TylerJGillies, and we were doing so good :(
[09:05] <Nubbie> m0u5e: try asking your question.
[09:05] <mainer> Kenyro: they're all good but different,and mileage varys,kde=more windows looking normally,but anything can be themed if you know how
[09:05] <TylerJGillies> astro76: sorry couldn't resist
[09:05] <astro76> lol
[09:05] <Nubbie> kde is for people missing their windows XP lol
[09:05] <arooni> hey folks
[09:05] <jmdc> westly: I haven't heard of homebank before. Is there a windows version that you used to use?
[09:05] <m0u5e> Nubbie: i was just curious whether to what kind of experiences they've had using the i810 driver, of they've gone ahead and tried the intel driver
[09:06] <Kenyro> Okay, much better. Having a lot of bad time with performance, hangups here and there and so on, that's why I'm looking for a mix of beauty and performance, especially when gaming comes in consideration
[09:06] <arooni> folks
[09:06] <m0u5e> Nubbie: cause, it seems like my system kept crashing using the new intel driverset
[09:06] <jf> Nubbie: lol
[09:06] <arooni> can i resize NTFS partitions from within gparted?
[09:06] <jmdc> aroon: no.
[09:06] <Nubbie> m0u5e: i use the intel graphics drivers with tons of success.
[09:06] <petterah> hello, has anything with the fonts changed in gutsy? It looks like the font from fedora 7, gnome.... it looks really nice. Not sure how to explain, but the fonts are bigger, and more smooth?
[09:06] <TylerJGillies> arooni: you _can_ i don't recommend it
[09:06] <westly> jmdc: is a linux version I install in feisty fawn add/remove
[09:06] <m0u5e> Nubbie: really? i dont know why but on my computer i get a lot more flickers than i did with the i810 graphics driver
[09:07] <arooni> TylerJGillies, why not
[09:07] <m0u5e> Nubbie: i'm currently using compiz-fusion 0.5.2 w/ emerald
[09:07] <Flannel> petterah: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions, thanks.
[09:07] <Nubbie> petterah: you can change the font in system > preferences > fonts
[09:07] <TylerJGillies> arooni: i don't recommend NTFS at all actually ;)
[09:07] <nathan> how do you change the background for where it says File Edit View, etc... no links to long boring pages please!
[09:07] <TylerJGillies> arooni: no journaling
[09:07] <Nubbie> m0u5e: i'm still using beryl... and i'm not having any problems at all.
[09:08] <BrendanM> So I have a machine that I was using as a LAMP server for a while, but now I don't want Apache and MySQL and stuff to start automatically anymore. How would I remove them from the autostarted applications, but leave my configuration intact?
[09:08] <Nubbie> TylerJGillies: NTFS does have journalling. fat32 doesn't.
[09:08] <jmdc> westly: are you trying to get a file you created with windows?
[09:08] <m0u5e> Nubbie: do you know the specifics as to what the difference between the two drivers are? -_-; ive checked the change logs, but except for extra support with newer cards, they should be nearly identical?
[09:08] <petterah> Nubbie, ok thanks, but I was talking about default fonts, looks the same on every screenshot I've seen from previews :)
[09:08] <decay> My internet connection keeps droping every 2-4 mins. any thuoghs?
[09:08] <TylerJGillies> Nubbie: oh.
[09:09] <Nubbie> m0u5e: iirc, the intel drivers got direct rendering to work for me.
[09:09] <petterah> BrendanM, you could use update-rc.d
[09:09] <astro76> m0u5e, as far as I know, the intel driver is a complete rewrite, so definitely not nearly identical
[09:09] <westly> jmdc: no . I install throught synpat. used it in ubuntu. cannot find the data I have key in the software. I wanna copy the data to used it in office
[09:09] <m0u5e> astro76: really? :X
[09:09] <astro76> decay, wireless?
[09:09] <Nubbie> petterah: yeah you can change the default font in that font dialog.
[09:09] <decay> astro76, yes
[09:09] <BrendanM> petterah, how would I do that?
[09:09] <astro76> m0u5e, intel will be default in the future when it is considered more stable
[09:09] <astro76> decay, what card?
[09:10] <m0u5e> astro76: ah, okay, ill wait then... cause im definitely feeling the stability issue -_-;
[09:10] <nathan> how do you change the background image for where it says File Edit View, etc..
[09:10] <Nubbie> m0u5e: it's most likely compiz crashing your system, look for help with them or in #ubuntu-effects
[09:10] <petterah> BrendanM, im not sure of the exact syntax, but something like  update-rc.d -f <file> remove
[09:10] <m0u5e> Nubbie: no, compiz has been fine under the i810 driver set, its only when i tried the intel driver that it gave me problems
[09:10] <decay> astro76, entgear wg311t
[09:10] <petterah> BrendanM, <file> is the file/service
[09:10] <Flannel> nathan: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials
[09:10] <MadViolinis1> G'day, I've been having some troubles with Feisty freezing on me. It seems to mainly happen when using Firefox, but have had it happen when using Opera. I've got the system monitor boxes and nothing seems to show up there. I've taken a look at the log but can't really see anything. The only way to unfreeze is to restart. Any ideas?
[09:10] <petterah> BrendanM, have a look under /etc/init.d :)
[09:10] <BrendanM> hmm, ok. So there's not like a text file somewhere that just lists all the autostarting apps?
[09:11] <Flannel> nathan: and, really, you don't have to repeat.  It doesn't get you anywhere.
[09:11] <BrendanM> oh, or is that the one?
[09:11] <m0u5e> astro76: it kept crashing whenever it faded to grey, like when gksudo password dialogs popped up
[09:11] <Flannel> BrendanM: Sort of.  It's a few directories.
[09:11] <Flannel> BrendanM: what are you trying to do?
[09:11] <petterah> BrendanM, update-rc.d is a utility to handle the symlinks under /etc/init.d :)
[09:11] <Flannel> !bum | BrendanM
[09:11] <ubotu> BrendanM: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:11] <matti> Morning :)
[09:11] <m0u5e> astro76: darn... and ppracer used to work too... now it doesnt work >_<
[09:12] <GBenemy> NOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:12] <shaqy_lin> hyy
[09:12] <petterah> BrendanM, if you want to disable apache, you'll have to type      update-rc.d -f apache remove
[09:12] <Nubbie> hi guys, i have a problem with my swap partition. it's not enabled after boot! i need to go into gparted and turn swapon every time i turn my computer on. can somebody help me figure this out please?
[09:12] <jmdc> westly: sorry, I misunderstood you at first. when you saved your data in homebank, you had to pick a location.
[09:12] <Flannel> Nubbie: is swap in your fstab?
[09:12] <petterah> BrendanM, makes sense?
[09:12] <astro76> m0u5e, the question is, why when you go back to the previously working i810, is it now not working
[09:12] <m0u5e> astro76: yeah it doesnt work anymore -_-;
[09:12] <jmdc> westly: do you remember doing that?  It says i must "sudo apt-get install libc6-dev", but i dont have a connection to the internet.
[09:13] <GBenemy> **astro76
[09:13] <m0u5e> astro76: i tried it right before i switched, and it worked almost perfectly (just with a little blinking from compiz-fusion)
[09:13] <Flannel> BrendanM: right.  BUM will do that for you, or you can do it manually by following the stuff on the linked pages
[09:13] <admin__> hello, how can i install dual boot ubuntu and xp?
[09:13] <astro76> GBenemy, that's rough
[09:13] <m0u5e> astro76: any idea why i'd work before, but not now?
[09:13] <linoleum> hi folks, I was wondering if there is an application similar to microsoft OneNote, or Basket, but for the Gnome desktop environement ?
[09:13] <Flannel> !dualboot | admin__
[09:13] <ubotu> admin__: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[09:13] <BrendanM> ok, cool. I'll try to do it manually first to be hardcore, and then if I can't get it, I'll try BUM
[09:13] <astro76> m0u5e, I can't think of any, I'm assuming you restarted your x server after you changed back to i810
[09:13] <m0u5e> astro76: it just gives me the error cannot find matching GLX visual now
[09:14] <m0u5e> astro76:  yeah :(
[09:14] <Nubbie> Flannel: !!! i just checked my fstab again, it's throwing something weird about my swap. check my pastebin....
[09:14] <Flannel> Nubbie: Where's your pastebin?
[09:14] <TylerJGillies> BrendanM: i think masochistic is the word you're looking for
[09:14] <Nubbie> Flannel: http://pastebin.ca/670979
[09:14] <slater> Viola! Bios upgrade on asus p5b fixed the grub issue. Thanks Cuzz.
[09:15] <MadViolinis1> G'day, I've been having some troubles with Feisty freezing on me. It seems to mainly happen when using Firefox, but have had it happen when using Opera. I've got the system monitor boxes and nothing seems to show up there. I've taken a look at the log but can't really see anything. The only way to unfreeze is to restart. Any ideas?
[09:15] <Nubbie> Flannel: gparted is telling me my swap partition is /dev/sda3
[09:15] <UBUNTU01> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/ubuntu.html
[09:15] <Flannel> Nubbie: That UUID looks funky.  What UUID does blkid give you for that?  Also, if you change that to /dev/sda3 instead of the UUID, does it work?
[09:16] <Cuzz> Cool, Can you dual boot now? Thinking of swapping this p5k crap for the p5b
[09:16] <Nubbie> Flannel: and after I enable swap, it functions correctly.
[09:16] <TylerJGillies> MadViolinis1: do your cap and scroll lock lights blink when it happens?
[09:16] <admin__> ubotu: i already have ubuntu installed, can i setup dual boot with xp?
[09:16] <MadViolinis1> not certain, haven't tried it
[09:16] <slater> Cuzz: Yup, working as intended ;)
[09:16] <Flannel> admin__: Sure, just install windows.  You'll want to give it some free space first though.
[09:16] <Nubbie> Flannel: i'd just remount with sudo mount -a correct? see if it mounts that way?
[09:16] <Flannel> Nubbie: aye
[09:16] <wolferine> admin__, ubotu is a bot
[09:16] <m0u5e> admin__: it should be able to dual boot as of default with XP, when grub is  launching press any button to select OS
[09:17] <MadViolinis1> will try next time it happens... but I don't know when that will be. sometimes it can be a couple of days between freezes, others like today, it's frozen 3 times on me in a short period of time
[09:17] <m0u5e> admin__: oh nvm, i thought you already had Xp installed and just installed ubuntu
[09:17] <Nubbie> Flannel: yeah blkid threw a different UUID. can i replace the UUID in my fstab with what that output?
[09:17] <Flannel> Nubbie: yeah
[09:18] <astro76> MadViolinis1, when it freezes see if you can restart x by typing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:18] <Nubbie> Flannel: k i'll let you know if it remounts.
[09:18] <GBenemy> astro76: Now I have to wait another hour because I got timed out and it stopped the download, only 60mb away from completion
[09:18] <GBenemy> :@
[09:18] <monsterb> !channels
[09:18] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:19] <MadViolinis1> cheers astro... hmm... that could be it now that I think about it... didn't happen before I got my new graphics card...
[09:19] <Flannel> linoleum: Have you tried tomboy?
[09:19] <ike_> Is there a way to have the default grub.conf from the installation regenerated
[09:19] <astro76> GBenemy, try using wget to download, it can resume I think
[09:19] <GBenemy> what's wget?
[09:19] <nathan> how do you change the background image for where it says File Edit View, etc..
[09:19] <GBenemy> and i can't resume from this because i didn't use wget in the first place
[09:20] <astro76> GBenemy, command line downloading tool, wget http://whatever...
[09:20] <astro76> GBenemy, maybe you could
[09:20] <easy_>
[09:20] <astro76> GBenemy, also there is gwget for a GUI version
[09:20] <Flannel> ike_: What did you change in it?
[09:20] <wolferine> !jp | easy_
[09:20] <ubotu> easy_:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[09:20] <GBenemy> "Windows cannot find "wget""
[09:20] <Nubbie> Flannel: i think the ultimate test would be to reboot and see if it mounts upon boot. thanks, and i'll be right back.
[09:20] <astro76> GBenemy, right, I forgot you are on windows
[09:20] <decay> How do i change the toolbar icon?
[09:20] <GBenemy> yeah windows sucks
[09:20] <easy_> chinese
[09:21] <astro76> GBenemy, order the CD, it will probably be there before you need it
[09:21] <wolferine> !ch | easy_
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <linoleum> Flannel: yes, and Tomboy is great to manage quick/small notes... but I wish to use an app like OneNote or Basket to take note in a long term, like my tutorials or lecture at the university. Tomboy is not suited for that I think.
[09:21] <easy_> i am not a jp
[09:21] <wolferine> anyone know chinese ?
[09:21] <astro76> !cn | easy_
[09:21] <ubotu> easy_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:21] <ike_> Flannel: I moved the Vista item to the top, then apt-got the newest kerenl and it wiped out the Vista entry.
[09:21] <wolferine> thanks astro76
[09:21] <Flannel> linoleum: Alright.  I haven't used either.  Just use BasKet, if that's what you know/like.
[09:21] <easy_> thank you!
[09:22] <Flannel> ike_: Right.  You've gotta put stuff you don't want erased at the bottom after the warning to put stuff below that line.
[09:22] <ike_> Flannel: Yeah, I'm good at learning this stuff the hard way.
[09:22] <linoleum> Flannel: yes, but that's why I asked here, since gnome is the default desktop for ubuntu , if there was an alternative to basket , but more integrated in gnome (gtk ,etc..)
[09:23] <Flannel> linoleum: wikipedia hints that basKet is probably your best bet.
[09:23] <Cuzz> Hi can someone please help with this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband I am stuck. It says i must "sudo apt-get install libc6-dev", but i dont have a connection to the internet.
[09:23] <SteamMachine> Hi everyone.
[09:23] <linoleum> Flannel: ok, thank you. Well I think I ll stick with basket then.
[09:23] <Flannel> ike_: If you're looking to put Vista back, no, there's no way to do that.  Well, not automated.  And I don't know the correct method for adding Vista entries.  I'd try google
[09:24] <Cuzz> thanx outlaw, i fixed the USB issue
[09:24] <jf> Cuzz:start with internet prob first
[09:24] <ike_> Flannel: Ok, thanks.  I'll keep fiddling with it.
[09:24] <Cuzz> i need tose pakages to make the internet work
[09:24] <Flannel> ike_: You can make vista the default (even if it's at the bottom) though.
[09:25] <MadViolinis1> hello again
[09:25] <GBenemy> well, I gtg
[09:25] <Nubbie> Flannel: thank you very much sah! i didn't know about blkid.
[09:26] <GBenemy> thanks for your help astro76
[09:26] <astro76> GBenemy, no problem, come back when it's time to install :)
[09:26] <Nubbie> Flannel: it's nice after giving so much advice in here people are able to help me when i have a problem, very much appreciated.
[09:26] <GBenemy> i will
[09:26] <GBenemy> I have no idea how to use linux lol :P
[09:26] <jf> Cuzz: cannot apt-get without your int.  Try using another comp. for necessary files?  What is the prob. with connection.
[09:26] <jmdc> download the packages on a machine with a good network connection. Put them on a flash drive or burn them to cd. Then install with sudo dpkg --install <package>
[09:26] <MadViolinis1> comp just froze again, which allowed me to try out the suggestions. Scroll lock or caps lock lights don't come up when frozen (i disabled the caps lock key, so that's probably why, but the scroll lock kight doesn't come up in normal operation either). Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X also didn't work
[09:26] <Nubbie> Flannel: it mounted no problem automatically.
[09:27] <monsterb> !server
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[09:27] <jmdc> cuzz: my previous message is for you
[09:27] <Cuzz> yeah ok so i have to burn them to a cd?
[09:27] <Cuzz> or can i transfer them with USB?
[09:27] <jmdc> cuzz or use a flash drive
[09:27] <jmdc> yeah, exactly
[09:27] <Nubbie> MadViolinis: wow thats a hard lock lol.
[09:27] <jmdc> anything you can think of
[09:27] <Flannel> Cuzz: you can.  Any form of sneakernet you prefer
[09:28] <astro76> MadViolinis1, so what's the new graphics card?
[09:28] <MadViolinis1> Radeon X850GTO
[09:28] <linoleum> Flannel: I m installing basket at the moment, but it installs me a lot of KDE dependencies ... that's the problem
[09:28] <astro76> MadViolinis1, no problems before you changed cards?
[09:28] <nixrookie> ubuntu tribes 5 won't recognize my 8800gts
[09:28] <Cuzz> k ill try. Thank you.
[09:28] <astro76> !gutsy | nixrookie
[09:28] <ubotu> nixrookie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <MadViolinis1> nah... was running on the mobo graphics
[09:29] <Nubbie> nixrookie: doesn't recognise it as in it doesn't boot at all, or there's issues with it?
[09:29] <astro76> MadViolinis1, seems highly likely the problem is do to your graphics card as you mentioned
[09:29] <astro76> *due
[09:29] <jmdc> linoleum: its kind of the price you pay...
[09:29] <nixrookie> it boots fine with it. I just can't get compiz fusion to work
[09:30] <MadViolinis1> so what options do I have?
[09:30] <Nubbie> nixrookie: well then the problem isn't ubuntu or your graphics card, it's compiz lol.
[09:30] <alam_> 23456
[09:30] <nixrookie> I tried installing the new nvidia drivers for linux and it won't start
[09:30] <Nubbie> nixrookie: make sure you have direct rendering enabled.
[09:30] <nixrookie> envy doesn't work either
[09:30] <nixrookie> says it doesn't support tribes 5
[09:30] <nixrookie> which is understandable
[09:31] <nixrookie> nubbie: I do. But it screws up my x-config when I enable it. I'll wait for the final release
[09:31] <nixrookie> I'm fine with feisty
[09:32] <astro76> nixrookie, ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:32] <slater> How long till Gutsy is out btw?
[09:32] <Nubbie> nixrookie: feisty is fine. a fine fawn she is.
[09:32] <astro76> slater, october (7.10 = 2007 October)
[09:32] <Nubbie> astro76: #ubuntu+1-effects ROFL
[09:32] <astro76> hah
[09:32] <slater> Thanks astro76.
[09:32] <yagami> Hi, i am having this problem loading files on firefox. the files are just html files- a cisco tutorial actually. but for some reason web browser's telling me file's not found.
[09:32] <nixrookie> thanks astro
[09:33] <mjgoins> can anyone think of why X11 forwarding over ssh wouldn't work (X11 options are turned on on both hosts, and -Y is being used...)
[09:33] <Nubbie> slater: don't expect it october first either, expect it near the end of the month.
[09:33] <astro76> mjgoins, hrm, I can do ssh -Y without setting any X options
[09:34] <Nubbie> ssh -Y connects to an x session?
[09:34] <BoP> w_jablay
[09:34] <astro76> Nubbie, it will start an ssh shell session, then if you run a gui program, it opens! very cool
[09:34] <thedash> anybody famililar with alltray ?
[09:35] <astro76> Nubbie, you can even run nautilus, and double click files and they will open with the program on the remote computer, displayed locally
[09:35] <Ahadiel> astro76, wow, that is cool
[09:35] <Nubbie> astro76: so if you started gdm in that shell, it would start gdm on the remote computer?
[09:35] <mjgoins> astro76: yeah that's usually what happens. I try xeyes or xclock and I just get nothing. the commands just sort of hang until killed
[09:35] <astro76> Nubbie, I'm not sure you can go as far as gdm
[09:35] <Nubbie> astro76: i've been toying with the idea of thin clients, save my laptop some battery and years lol.
[09:36] <astro76> Nubbie, for a whole desktop session, typically vnc is uses
[09:36] <jmdc> astro76: what version of x are you connecting to and from?
[09:36] <Nubbie> astro76: ahhh vnc :(
[09:36] <Nubbie> 7.3 i'd imagine.
[09:36] <astro76> jmdc, Feisty on both systems
[09:36] <astro76> 7.2 I think is in Feisty
[09:36] <Nubbie> oh is it?
[09:36] <Flannel> linoleum: It will do that, as obviously it requires a bunch of KDE things to run.  They'll only get loaded into memory when you're using basket.  Otherwise they're just taking up HDD space.
[09:36] <Nubbie> :l
[09:37] <astro76> yep 7.2
[09:37] <Nubbie> Flannel: actually you're wrong on that count i believe gnome will load the K libraries on load in anticipation.
[09:37] <Nubbie> Flannel: i'm no expert though D:
[09:37] <mjgoins> well, X11 forwarding is great and all, but for me it's simply not working. with no clues as to why. I don't even know where I would begin to test
[09:37] <Flannel> Nubbie: Not until you load the KDE apps.  Gnome doesn't load libs anyway, the kernel would.
[09:38] <Nubbie> mjgoins: do you get to the remote shell at all?
[09:39] <mjgoins> Nubbie: yeah, everything works fine until I try an x11 program
[09:39] <mjgoins> then the shell just sits there doing nothing
[09:39] <jmdc> is there anything in the server's logs?
[09:41] <thedash> is there a way to make an icon blink ?
[09:42] <lemon45> hello..
[09:43] <mjgoins> nah, nothing interesting in the logs at all
[09:43] <thedash> what was the keyboard command to open a new 'execute command' window ?
[09:44] <Nubbie> theconartist: alt F2
[09:44] <thedash> thanks :P
[09:44] <Nubbie> whoops.
[09:44] <Nubbie> theconartist: my bad, ignore the blinking IRC window :D
[09:44] <thedash> I was trying ctrl-F2 and such
[09:44] <Nubbie> tab killed that guy. i feel bad now he's probably sleeping.
[09:44] <Nubbie> lol.
[09:45] <mjgoins> i give up
[09:45] <thedash> it happens all the time, I doubt he'll hate you too much
[09:46] <Cuzz> in the tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband, i must install libc6-dev. libc6-dev needs libc6. libc6 needs libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb. When i install libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb it gives the following: libc6 conflicts with tzdata. tzdata (version 2007b-0ubuntu) is installed. Anybody know how to proceed please?
[09:47] <Nubbie> Cuzz: install everything from repositories?
[09:48] <Cuzz> from the net... I cant i need these to setup the internet connection
[09:48] <ziroday> whats the difference between the ati, radeon and fgrlx drivers for ati cards?
[09:49] <soberrover> hey.... I've got a spare harddrive that I've left as NTFS up till now. I've backed up my files, and formatted to ext3. now how do I mount it?
[09:50] <yourdaddysdaddy> !mount
[09:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:50] <mirf> any clever folk in here?  I'm talking -seriously- clever?
[09:50] <astro76> ziroday, ati is open source 2d driver, fglrx is closed/proprietary 3d driver, radeon is new open source 3d driver
[09:50] <mirf> please give this a look - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3254730#post3254730
[09:50] <ziroday> astro76: then why am i getting 3d on my ati driver?
[09:50] <yourdaddysdaddy> !fstab | soberrover
[09:50] <ubotu> soberrover: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:52] <Cuzz> in the tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband, i must install libc6-dev. libc6-dev needs libc6. libc6 needs libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb. When i install libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb it gives the following: libc6 conflicts with tzdata. tzdata (version 2007b-0ubuntu) is installed. Anybody know how to proceed please, PLEASE? I just want to setup the internet connection, after that everything should run smooth.
[09:52] <astro76> mirf, it's sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[09:52] <astro76> mirf, the -t option must go before <device> and <mountpoint>
[09:53] <mirf> astro76, OK let me try...
[09:53] <astro76> mirf, also if you do: ls -l /dev/sd* , does sdb1 show up?
[09:54] <mirf> astro76, just /dev/sdb shows up
[09:54] <mirf> astro76,  mount command you gave me didn't do anything good either... it's gotta be a problem with the partitioning somehow
[09:54] <astro76> mirf, that's the problem, obviously... is this external or internal?
[09:55] <mirf> astro76,  Internal
[09:55] <mirf> astro76,  I've had ubuntu installed in the past and it accessed the drive without fault - I wonder what changed heh
[09:57] <astro76> mirf, can you paste the output of: ls -l /dev/sdb
[09:58] <mirf> astro76, http://pastebin.com/m27734d5
[09:58] <fuzzy> is it possible to designate which internet connection a program will use?
[09:59] <vanksi_> hddtemp tells me that most of my hard drives are sleeping, how can i wake them up?
[09:59] <astro76> mirf, try: sudo mknod sdb1 b 8 17
[09:59] <Nubbie> fuzzy: you're connected to more than one?
[09:59] <astro76> mirf, then try to mount again
[10:00] <fuzzy> i'd like to be
[10:00] <mirf> astro76, same error
[10:00] <mirf> astro76, doesn't show up in list either
[10:00] <astro76> mirf, ok that command should have made /dev/sdb1
[10:00] <Nubbie> fuzzy: i think most programs use the assumption it's already connected to the internet, i doubt there would be a way to specify which programs use what.
[10:00] <mirf> astro76,  it's crazy hahah
[10:01] <soberrover> thanks, people
[10:02] <astro76> fuzzy, I'd imagine you'd have to use iptables (firestarter) and make rules based on outgoing ports
[10:02] <mirf> astro76,  only /dev/sdb* in /dev dir is /dev/sdb still
[10:02] <davetarmac> I have a sh script that I need to run at startup. I have it added to sessions, but it still doesn't load up. It is currently set up to run gksudo /path/to/script.sh but doesn't run. How can I get around this?
[10:02] <fuzzy> thx astro
[10:02] <astro76> mirf,  I wonder if it should have been: sudo mknod /dev/sdb1 b 8 17
[10:02] <danya> hello .. I need some help .. I don't know whats wrong with my system .yesterday I cou;dnt log into gnome till now ..whenever I choose gnome desktop nothing appears on the desktop .. anyone ? I'm on feisty 64-bit
[10:03] <astro76> mirf, see if a /sdb1 was created, if so, sorry ;) you can delete it (sudo rm /sdb1)
[10:04] <mirf> astro76,  created /dev/sdb1 but... /dev/sdb1 is not a valid block device
[10:04] <cs_> i
[10:05] <astro76> mirf, I'm afraid I don't know how to troubleshoot this one, maybe delete the partition and make it again if you don't have data on it
[10:05] <ion> anyone know of a howto to compile a kernel with cfs scheduler patch?
[10:05] <icone> hi there again
[10:05] <mirf> astro76,  it's OK thanks for your help I do appreciate it :)
[10:05] <icone> have php-plugin in eclipse, but can't edit php files :s
[10:06] <icone> it returns an error
[10:06] <mirf> astro76,  I'm sure it'a a partition table error now look at this... http://pastebin.com/m63e074cc
[10:07] <michaelsmick> Hi, I'm trying to installl feisty on a 4 year old laptop, 256 mb ram right now. Can I force it to just install, not go to the live version first.  It's killing the install time.
[10:07] <michaelsmick> I mean it's taking so much time to redraw the window to walk through the installation.
[10:07] <michaelsmick> I've killed it 3 times because it seems locked up.
[10:08] <astro76> mirf, looks like it
[10:08] <zorlin> michael: Is there no alternate cd yet?
[10:08] <zorlin> O.o
[10:08] <astro76> michaelsmick, use the alternate cd
[10:08] <zorlin> y'know, the alternate installation CD.
[10:08] <mirf> astro76,  so now I gotta get my partition editing head on and find a nice large hd to back up the data on :D
[10:08] <michaelsmick> alternate?  I don't know of that, but I'll download it now if it's available.
[10:09] <Nubbie> michaelsmick: yeah use the alternate cd.
[10:09] <danya_> hello .. I need some help .. I don't know whats wrong with my system .yesterday I cou;dnt log into gnome till now ..whenever I choose gnome desktop nothing appears on the desktop .. anyone ? I'm on feisty 64-bit
[10:09] <Javid> How do I run a bin executable? x.x
[10:09] <astro76> michaelsmick, you can click the check box for the alternate desktop CD under the Start Download button here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[10:10] <Nubbie> danya_: but you can log in fine now?
[10:10] <arun> Has anyone here used GNOME Launch Box?
[10:10] <arun> http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gnome-launch-box
[10:10] <arun> i want to know how to configure the keyboard shortcuts for that app, there seems to be no documentation on the web sie
[10:10] <arun> site*
[10:11] <Cuzz> in the tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband, i must install libc6-dev. libc6-dev needs libc6. libc6 needs libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb. When i install libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb it gives the following: libc6 conflicts with tzdata. tzdata (version 2007b-0ubuntu) is installed. Anybody know how to proceed please, PLEASE? I just want to setup the internet connection, after that everything should run smooth.
[10:11] <wolferine> right
[10:11] <Nubbie> Cuzz: you're installing everything from repositories right?
[10:12] <Nubbie> Javid: run chmod +x </path/to/file.bin> then run it in a terminal.
[10:12] <Cuzz> i'm downloading the .deb files from another computer, and tryimg to install them using dpkg
[10:13] <Javid> thanks
[10:13] <icone> anyone can help me ?
[10:13] <icone> have php-plugin in eclipse, but can't edit php files :s
[10:13] <icone> it returns an error
[10:14] <ce_xma_punk> hai
[10:14] <Javid> Gotta love people who post bins for download without telling you any of the dependencies.
[10:14] <wolferine> icone, dont use exlipse then
[10:16] <Flannel> Cuzz: Try downloading the newer version of locales and tzdata
[10:16] <Flannel> Cuzz: Are you on feisty (on the installed machine?)
[10:17] <riniver> Ahh...When i try to apt-get remove gaim it tries to remove nautilus-sendto and ubuntu-desktop aswell :|
[10:17] <Flannel> riniver: that's expected
[10:17] <riniver> Wouldn't removal of ubuntu-desktop bea  bad thing?
[10:17] <Flannel> riniver: it's just a metapackage
[10:18] <Nubbie> riniver: just make sure you install it when upgrading.
[10:19] <riniver> I downloaded the pidgin 2.1.1 data,dev and amd64 packages (.dev files) will they reinstall it?
[10:20] <Nubbie> riniver: i doubt it.
[10:20] <vsayikiran> i am using wallpaper tray package and i want that it should load automatically whenever i login , does ny body have ny solution
[10:20] <Flannel> riniver: No.  those packages don't depend on pidgin, they depend on gaim
[10:20] <astro76> !startup | vsayikiran
[10:20] <ubotu> vsayikiran: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[10:20] <Nubbie> vsayikiran: system > preferences > session, then add the program do the startup list.
[10:20] <Nubbie> damn you astro76 lol.
[10:21] <Nubbie> some people still type out their help you know ;)
[10:21] <astro76> :D
[10:21] <vsayikiran> currently everytime i login i have to start it manually
[10:21] <astro76> Nubbie, I've probably typed that manually in here 10 times, I've had enough :p
[10:21] <vsayikiran> ok nubbie can u tell me where this wallpaper tray program is stored
[10:21] <decay> vsayikiran,  start what?
[10:21] <riniver> Seems a little string uninstalling it then reinstalling it straight back
[10:21] <riniver> little strange*
[10:21] <decay> Anyone know how to use Wine? i installed it....
[10:22] <mic_> hello guys
[10:22] <decay> vsayikiran, your wallpaper doesn't get loaded when you login?
[10:22] <Nubbie> vsayikiran: i dunno, you've the one who installed it lol. it's most likely in /usr/bin but i dunno what it's called.
[10:22] <Flannel> decay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[10:22] <vsayikiran> i mean in which i can find the executable wallpaper tray
[10:22] <vsayikiran> yes decay
[10:22] <decay> Flannel, thanks
[10:22] <mic_> does the (k)ubuntu installer now detects SATA raid stripping harddisks?
[10:22] <astro76> vsayikiran, the command is "wallpaper-tray", you don't need to know where it is
[10:22] <decay> vsayikiran, is it loaded in another hard drive?
[10:22] <decay> vsayikiran, i mean located, not loaded.
[10:22] <glick> hey whats the file that lists all of the modules that will get loaded when the kernel boots?
[10:23] <mic_> glick: modules.conf
[10:23] <glick> where is that file mic_ ?
[10:23] <Flannel> mic_: if it does, it would be the alternate CD and not the desktop CD.  It depends mostly on how youve setup the RAID I believe.
[10:23] <mic_> glick: it's pointed in /etc/
[10:23] <glick> mic_, i dont see it
[10:23] <decay> has anyone tried playing counterstrike under linux?
[10:23] <mic_> Flannel: is this alternate cd available on the official website?
[10:23] <vsayikiran> i just want to know in which folder does the exectable files are stored
[10:24] <Flannel> mic_: it is indeed.
[10:24] <Nubbie> decay: i'm sure some people have.
[10:24] <mic_> glick: may be you have directory called /etc/modprobe.d?
[10:24] <astro76> vsayikiran, to find out type: which wallpaper-tray
[10:24] <glick> yes mic_
[10:24] <decay> I'd like to know if it ran well.
[10:24] <decay> vsayikiran, are you wallpaper images located in a different driver?
[10:24] <glick> mic_, i see a bunch of weird blacklist files there
[10:24] <astro76> decay, try the winehq.org site, there's a compatibility database
[10:25] <mic_> Flannel: to the setup in general... i've configured the Raid 1 with the bios
[10:25] <Nubbie> decay: depends on your system.
[10:25] <decay> astro76, okay
[10:25] <vsayikiran> so astro76 if i want wallpaper-tray to start automatically , i need to add this in session
[10:25] <Bucket> Hello, can someone give me some help with repartitioning please :D?
[10:25] <Nubbie> Bucket: what's the deal?
[10:25] <mic_> glick: just a blicklist file?
[10:25] <Nubbie> vsayikiran: no add it to the start up list.
[10:25] <decay> vsayikiran, is your wallpaper on another hard drive or not?
[10:25] <glick> mic_, no a bunch of files
[10:25] <riniver> I uninstalled gaim and the gaim data files (losing ubuntu-desktop and nautilus sendto in the process) and tried to install pidgin but it says dependency not satisfiable libc6. i tried ot insatll libc6 but it's already at newest version
[10:25] <astro76> vsayikiran, indeed, but you only need the command name "wallpaper-tray" is my point, it is already in your $PATH
[10:25] <Bucket> Uh, I want to increase the size of my linux partition, and decrease the windows partition
[10:25] <jeska> Do you know how I can get linuxthread support in Fiesty with glibc 2.5. :<
[10:25] <mic_> hmm strange
[10:25] <Bucket> without adding any more though
[10:26] <glick> but alot of nlackist ones
[10:26] <decay> Bucket, i suggest using partition magic 8 in windows
[10:26] <Flannel> riniver: Then your GAIM debs aren't for feisty.
[10:26] <TuTUX> if ubuntu can automatic detect all the apps i have installed and auto install them when i doing a system upgrade, that would be awesome
[10:26] <Flannel> riniver: er, pidgin.
[10:26] <Bucket> I would like to keep it at the number of partitions IU have, only cahhnge the ize and not lose data
[10:26] <Bucket> I'm in the liveCD D;
[10:26] <Flannel> TuTUX: It doesn't need to.  That's what the upgrade is for.
[10:26] <Flannel> TuTUX: the upgrade doesn't remove/reinstall stuff, it just upgrades.  They remain installed (with newer versions)
[10:26] <Nubbie> bucket: this is what you need to do, boot into windows, and defragment the partition. then you can resize it easier with linux.
[10:26] <Bucket> Yeh
[10:26] <Parisi> Hmm
[10:26] <Bucket> Done that
[10:27] <Bucket> So I'm in gnome partition thing now
[10:27] <TuTUX> Flannel, but when i upgrade from 6.10 to feisty, lots of my apps got lost
[10:27] <Bucket> I just want to increase one, decrease the other, without losing data or creating any more partitions
[10:27] <Nubbie> Bucket: smarty :) k use the partitioning tool to shrink the drive, then move it so that there is unallocated space between it and your linux partition. then expand the linux partition.
[10:27] <Flannel> TuTUX: Which ones might those have been?
[10:27] <glick> do aliases get wiped out when you restart?
[10:27] <yourdaddysdaddy> decay: why not look at wine's app db?
[10:28] <Flannel> glick: how did you add them?
[10:28] <Bucket> Yeh, I can do that, but the linux partition won't expand?
[10:28] <astro76> glick, not if you put them in your ~/.bashrc
[10:28] <glick> Flannel, just alias='blabla'
[10:28] <TuTUX> Flannel, that was a while ago, and i reinstall the system few times after that upgrade, but i just got this idea
[10:28] <Flannel> glick: You've gotta put them in your rc file
[10:28] <Nubbie> Bucket: it should be able to from the livecd.
[10:28] <glick> ah ok
[10:28] <glick> thanks
[10:28] <Bucket> Yeh
[10:29] <Flannel> TuTUX: They shouldn't get lost.  If you knew of a few examples, we could investigate.
[10:29] <Bucket> But I can't use the space preceding the linux partition D;
[10:29] <Cuzz> Flannel: I installed locales and tzdata. When i install libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb it gives the following: libc6 conflicts with tzdata (<<2007e-2). tzdata (version 2007e-0ubuntu) is installed.
[10:29] <Flannel> Bucket: That's because ext3 partitions can only have their tail shifted, not the head.
[10:29] <Bucket> Okay, so what do I do then?
[10:29] <Nubbie> bucket: do you have enough free space to make an exact copy of it?
[10:30] <TuTUX> Flannel, i can understand if i upgrade my system, those apps installed from 3rd party repos got lost or not function well
[10:30] <yagami> Can someone help me with how to mount a file with long/mixed filenames? i am using mount /path/file.iso /path/destination -o loop,iocharset=utf8
[10:30] <Bucket> Yeh, but I don't want to lose data from either :D?
[10:30] <yagami> when i run this, i am getting the fstab error.
[10:30] <yagami> i mena a mount error. whats wrong?
[10:31] <Flannel> Cuzz: Sounds like youre mixing gutsy with feisty.
[10:31] <Flannel> TuTUX: Right, because the third party repos don't have the proper newer packages.
[10:31] <astro76> yagami, you have the -o in the wrong place
[10:31] <Nubbie> Bucket: if there's enough space in the unallocated space, copy the linux partition into that, then delete the original when you're sure it copied correctly. then expand the new one into the deleted space.
[10:31] <Bucket> So, I create a load of unallocated space right? Then, I make a copy of linux partition which will not lose any data :D? and lastly, I delete the other, and increase the size of the other?
[10:31] <astro76> !iso | yagami
[10:31] <ubotu> yagami: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:31] <Bucket> Okay.
[10:31] <Bucket> Thanks
[10:31] <unimatrix9> ward_
[10:31] <glick> hey i have a question, its been bothering me, it sees that my login screen is off to the side of my monitor, like the login resolution is off or something
[10:31] <glick> i hvae a widescreen monitor
[10:31] <Cuzz> how so, im on feisty?
[10:31] <unimatrix9> ward_ private...
[10:31] <glick> how can i fix this?
[10:31] <unimatrix9> !
[10:32] <decay> glick, you installed your video driver?
[10:32] <glick> yeah decay nvidia
[10:32] <psngl> hi all
[10:33] <decay> glick, so after you login, the reso is fine?
[10:33] <glick> yeah decay
[10:33] <glick> its weird
[10:33] <vanksi_> how can i wake up sleeping hard drives?
[10:33] <TuTUX> Flannel, but just like what you said, if the upgrade should keep all installed apps from official repos working, i will keep an eye on them when i upgrade to the final gutsy (when its out)
[10:33] <decay> glick, sorry man =/ don't know what to do. I'd check your xorg.conf and get rid of all the lower resolutions
[10:33] <Flannel> Cuzz: Feisty has 2007b, not 2007e. and 2.5 libc6, not 2.6.1 (which is gutsy)
[10:34] <glick> decay, the resolution is fine, its just the screen is shifted to the right
[10:34] <Nubbie> vanksi_: read data from them?
[10:34] <astro76> glick, if you make the resolution that you use in the desktop the first one listed, it should use it on the login screen
[10:34] <glick> astro76, in xorg.conf?
[10:34] <astro76> glick, yes
[10:34] <Flannel> Cuzz: What it sounds like is you've downloaded Gutsy packages, and are trying to install them on your Feisty machine
[10:34] <Bucket> Nubbie: do I try and do these all at once? Or do each action one at a time?
[10:34] <yagami> astro76, I did change the position, to no effect. besides, i dont think thats the placement of -o option in mount matters...(i have yet to read the mans)
[10:35] <Nubbie> Bucket: copy the partition, and make sure it went smoothly before deleting the original.
[10:35] <Nubbie> bucket: ie. make sure it boots.
[10:35] <Bucket> k
[10:35] <astro76> yagami, ah sorry, it's mounting but you don't see long filenames?
[10:36] <TuTUX> Flannel, how about programs built from src? will system upgrading break them?
[10:36] <enry> i have a tecnical question: i just buy an IBM Thinkpad T40 without wifi, ad i have to install it now by myself....it's better install the original mini pci card, or buy an esxternal....if i buy an external wifi ard it's better a usb or a pcmcia ? thanks!
[10:36] <nathan> how do I change the background image or it might be a gradient, behind 'File Edit View Terminal Tabs Help' ?
[10:36] <yagami> yes, no, i get an error if i use iocharset option. without it, i can sure mount it- but with truncated filenames like in dos filenames
[10:36] <Flannel> TuTUX: Where did you put them once you compiled?
[10:37] <glick> whats the key combo to restart X
[10:37] <TuTUX> Flannel, an example is compiz.  and i put them in /usr
[10:37] <Nubbie> enry: check the compatibility pages to see if the internal mini pci is supported.
[10:37] <astro76> TuTUX, if you install them to /usr/local/ (this is common) they will be independent
[10:37] <Nubbie> enry: if so, go nuts.
[10:37] <Flannel> nathan: I answered you hours ago.  If you're going to ask questions, please read the responses people give you.
[10:37] <decay> christ my connection keeps dropping every 2-3 mins. im about to kick pc
[10:37] <Flannel> glick: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:37] <Nubbie> glick: ctrl alt backspace
[10:37] <Nubbie> damn you flannel lol.
[10:37] <glick> kooool thanks
[10:38] <TuTUX> but when i was in 6.10, some libs in /usr/local/ are not working
[10:38] <nathan> sorry what was the answer? all I thought I got was a link to something I don't undestan
[10:38] <nathan> understand*
[10:38] <TuTUX> astro76, like some gstreamer libs
[10:38] <nathan> sorry about that
[10:38] <psngl> can anyone help.... ive just installed ubuntu recently and everything is fine except my resolution is weird....photo are always stretched for some reason....can anyone help???
[10:38] <enry> Nubbie, yes it is, mine was only a tecnical question, which of them is th better solution? (better brawitch, low battery consumption....)
[10:39] <astro76> nathan, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials
[10:39] <Nubbie> !resolution > psngl
[10:39] <nathan> that's the link I don't get, I been trying to read it for a lil while
[10:39] <TuTUX> astro76, have to manually link/copy them to /usr, so right now i just put everything under /usr
[10:39] <Cuzz> Flannel: Oh, i see. Then im stumped, i have no clue how to proceed installing all the packages that are specific to feisty to make this connection work.
[10:39] <astro76> enry, I'd prefer internal mini-pci then pcmcia, and last resort usb
[10:40] <Flannel> Cuzz: Download the packages you're installing for feisty, not gutsy.
[10:40] <TuTUX> astro76, so thats a bad habit?
[10:40] <Nubbie> enry: i dunno, i doubt the impact is that great. either method you can turn the device off.
[10:40] <astro76> TuTUX, it doesn't make for a system that can be fully managed with apt, it can help to use checkinstall though
[10:40] <psngl> ty so much
[10:40] <Nubbie> yeah you want to leave that card slot open, and nobody likes dongles.
[10:40] <astro76> !checkinstall | TuTUX
[10:40] <ubotu> TuTUX: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:40] <Flannel> TuTUX: yeah.  Stuff in /usr is under package management.  Your stuff could get overwritten (or worse yet, you'll get broken packages), you should put them in /usr/local (that stuff isn't under package management)
[10:41] <Bucket> uh
[10:41] <glick> the hell that killed my beryl
[10:41] <glick> :(
[10:41] <glick> how do i get my 3d cube back?
[10:41] <Nubbie> for programs i install from source, i keep the folder from which i installed it so it can be easily removed.
[10:42] <Bucket> It said there was an error on the disc I was trying to resize, and it didn't do anything!!!
[10:42] <Nubbie> glick: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:42] <Nubbie> glick: (right click the red diamond, reload window manager)
[10:42] <enry> thanks astro76 and Nubbie, my hope is that instead of the lack pf the wifi mini pci card the antennas are installer otherwise it will be a pretty hard work to do by myself
[10:42] <TuTUX> Flannel, ok, ic
[10:42] <Nubbie> Bucket: that sucks.
[10:42] <Bucket> So what do I do?
[10:43] <arooni> how do i format a dvdrw disk?
[10:43] <glick> yeah Nubbie i did that
[10:43] <arooni> how do i format a dvdrw disk?  gnomebaker isnt cutting it ;(
[10:43] <Bucket> Glick
[10:43] <Bucket> Type emerald --replace
[10:43] <astro76> arooni, try k3b maybe, or brasero
[10:43] <Bucket> in term
[10:43] <EvaLuaTe> where can i find the sudo-ers list ?
[10:43] <TuTUX> astro76, but the debs made by checkinstall still manageable/working after a distro upgrade?
[10:43] <Nubbie> stay away from k3b. it sucks in gnome.
[10:43] <glick> Bucket, doesnt do anything
[10:44] <Bucket> Nubbie~~~ how do I make it partition?
[10:44] <Bucket> D;
[10:44] <Ziroday> Nubbie: no it dosnt
[10:44] <nathan> I can't understand all that programming I just want to change the color of my menu back to normal
[10:44] <astro76> EvaLuaTe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[10:44] <glick> what the hell
[10:44] <Flannel> TuTUX: you'll need to recompile them for the new versions of everything
[10:44] <Nubbie> glick: then you don't have your video drivers, x, or beryl set up correctly, either one.
[10:44] <EvaLuaTe> thank you astro76
[10:44] <glick> okaaay there we goooo
[10:44] <glick> whew!
[10:44] <Flannel> TuTUX: Just like any other locally installed deb, you can remove it as a deb, but it won't update itself
[10:44] <glick> but that didnt fix my login screen problem
[10:45] <Nubbie> nathan: your panel is a different colour?
[10:45] <Bucket> Nathan
[10:45] <Bucket> Is it a gnome theme that you used?
[10:45] <riniver> has anyone else had any problems with Debuntu repository not being found?
[10:45] <riniver> I get a 404 error after i added the lines it told me to
[10:45] <astro76> riniver, what is Debuntu?
[10:45] <TuTUX> Flannel, ok, so instead of that, puting everything under /usr/local/ maybe a better idea to keep things runing?
[10:45] <nathan> where it says File Edit View Terminal Tabs
[10:46] <riniver> It's a .deb repository. http://www.debuntu.org/
[10:46] <TuTUX> Flannel, everything compiled from src
[10:46] <Flannel> TuTUX: Well, in /usr/local you'll still run into problems when you upgrade to newer versions of everyhting its compiled against
[10:46] <Nubbie> TuTUX: yeah, when configuring, type ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[10:46] <whyn0t> hello
[10:47] <Nubbie> TuTUX: and hang onto the folder you installed with, that way it's easy to remove the program using sudo make uninstall
[10:47] <glick> i needs my cube
[10:47] <glick> i cant do 2d computing anymore
[10:47] <Bucket> Nathan go to themes, and just switch it back to human or something
[10:48] <nathan> I have it totally perfect except that though
[10:48] <TuTUX> Flannel, ok, since i still love apt that much, id just have to keep my own src packages more organized
[10:49] <MK3> hi guys can anyone explain to me how i can get passed that ROOT user, as when i try to save my interface settings it is locked
[10:49] <Nubbie> TuTUX: creating deb files would be the best solution if it's not too much of a hassle.
[10:49] <TuTUX> ty very much for the nolage, Flannel, astro76 and Nubbie
[10:49] <MK3> hi guys can anyone explain to me how i can get passed that ROOT user, as when i try to save my interface settings it is locked
[10:49] <Flannel> !sudo | MK3
[10:49] <ubotu> MK3: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:49] <Nubbie> MK3: you only need to ask once, we're capable of reading -.-
[10:50] <MK3> cheers ubotu will take a look
[10:50] <MK3> sorry nubbie but did it by accident
[10:50] <Ziroday> MK3: ubotu is a bot
[10:50] <Nubbie> MK3: ubotu is a robot lol although it probably appreciates your thanks :)
[10:50] <MK3> lol
[10:50] <Nubbie> MK3: i didn't mean to sound snappy, if i did i apologize :)
[10:51] <TuTUX> !botsnack
[10:51] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:51] <Nubbie> !kill
[10:51] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:51] <MK3> that cool
[10:51] <Nubbie> it helps with the monotonous help lol.
[10:51] <nathan> anyone know how to change the color for the bar behind file edit view etc, and only that color?
[10:51] <Flannel> !repeat | nathan
[10:51] <ubotu> nathan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:51] <Nubbie> nathan: change your theme.
[10:52] <EvaLuaTe> when i create a new account and his home directory is created, there are some files copied in the home folder by default, where can i find/edit these default files ?
[10:52] <Nubbie> nathan: system > preferences > theme
[10:52] <Nubbie> EvaLuaTe: they're mostly hidden files, hit ctrl H in nautilus to see them.
[10:52] <astro76> EvaLuaTe, /etc/skel/
[10:53] <whyn0t> I need help with mdadm. I have a clean system on sda, an empty sdb and I'd like to construct my arrays from the data on sda but don't know which mode (Assemble, Build, Create) to use
[10:53] <Nubbie> astro76: he was asking about the files created IN the home directory :)
[10:53] <EvaLuaTe> no, i was asking about where the default files are located :)
[10:53] <astro76> Nubbie, yep, that's where they are copied from when you add a user
[10:53] <Nubbie> OHHHhh
[10:54] <EvaLuaTe> thanks guys :)
[10:54] <Nubbie> okay i thought he wanted to edit the files in the home directory, he wants to edit the files that are copied before they get to the /home/user folder.
[10:54] <Nubbie> sorry astro76 :)
[10:54] <whyn0t> I precise that I couldn't use the raid assistant of the CD and that's why I'm doing it by hand.
[10:54] <mimi001> hy all
[10:54] <mimi001> i have some question 4 u
[10:54] <mimi001> who can help me?
[10:55] <astro76> !ask
[10:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:55] <Nubbie> mimi0001: we need a question first.
[10:55] <mimi001> k
[10:55] <Ziroday> !ask | mimi001
[10:55] <ubotu> mimi001: please see above
[10:55] <Nubbie> lol. that bot keeps getting smarter.
[10:55] <astro76> hah
[10:55] <astro76> thanks ubotu
[10:55] <whyn0t> :)
[10:55] <mimi001> how could i instal KDE onubuntu?
[10:55] <Ziroday> damn bet me to it
[10:55] <jeska> heh
[10:55] <Nubbie> mimi001: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <Ziroday> mimi001: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <astro76> aww no response :(
[10:55] <whyn0t> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <faileas> lol
[10:55] <Nubbie> pwn7 you Ziroday :D
[10:55] <jeska> looool
[10:55] <Ziroday> lol
[10:55] <mimi001> 10x
[10:55] <jeska> Noone halps me with my problem. :<
[10:56] <mimi001> what prb?
[10:56] <MK3> hi ubotu just read up with the link, only am a n00b with understanding all this language, so would i need to save the interface using commands as such ?
[10:56] <jeska> need to get linuxthread support in Fiesty with glibc 2.5. :<
[10:56] <jeska> >.>
[10:56] <Ahadiel> MK3, u**bot**u is a bot
[10:56] <Ninurta> Does Ubuntu support burnning cd's?
[10:56] <MK3> bot?
[10:56] <Nubbie> MK3: ubotu can't understand you. ask a human :)
[10:57] <astro76> Ninurta, indeed
[10:57] <Ahadiel> MK3, not a person >_>
[10:57] <MK3> i see
[10:57] <Nubbie> lol.
[10:57] <Ninurta> Ok.
[10:57] <Nubbie> !about
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <Ziroday> Ninurta: yes look at gnome baker or k3b
[10:57] <astro76> !ubotu
[10:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:57] <Nubbie> D:
[10:57] <Ninurta> I am using Wubi to install it. Anyone used it without flaws?
[10:57] <Nubbie> somebody should add the !about :l
[10:57] <Nubbie> Ninurta: wubi is what now?
[10:57] <MK3> hi humans just read up with the link, only am a n00b with understanding all this language, so would i need to save the interface using commands as such ?
[10:58] <astro76> :D
[10:58] <Ninurta> Installs Ubuntu with option to load windows or ubuntu on start
[10:58] <Ziroday> Nubbie: wubi is ubuntu as a program on the windoze desktop
[10:58] <astro76> MK3, I don't think anyone knows what you mean  by "save the interface"?
[10:58] <Ninurta> without having to create a free partition or burn-cd
[10:59] <Ninurta> not exactly on windows but yes that is how it is put.
[10:59] <Ziroday> Nubbie: it downloads as a .exe file
[10:59] <Nubbie> Ninurta: ubuntu already has that, it's called grub. i'd stay far away from this wubi business, it sounds SHADY.
[10:59] <MK3> its the interface settings for my Ethernet card
[10:59] <Nubbie> Ziroday: installs ubuntu from inside windows?
[10:59] <Ninurta> I have tried installing ubuntu myself many times
[10:59] <Ninurta> it hasn't gone well
[10:59] <Ninurta> Yes Nubbie.
[10:59] <Ninurta> From Windows.
[10:59] <Nubbie> ohhhh
[10:59] <Ziroday> Nubbie: yeah
[10:59] <Nubbie> nifty. that should make the switch easier.
[10:59] <MK3> stored in the /etc/networks folder
[11:00] <faileas> Nubbie: actually, it installs ubuntu in disk images on the windows drives, and chainloads grub from the NTloader. this means you don't have to repartition to install ubuntu, and can install and uninstall ubuntu from windows
[11:00] <Nubbie> Ninurta: i don't know of anybody ever using it successfully, i've never heard of it before.
[11:00] <astro76> MK3, yeah if you are editing a file, use sudo <editor> or gksudo <gui editor> for example, it will run the text editor as root
[11:00] <Ninurta> faileas: yse you get option of choosing what HD/Partition to load it on also.
[11:00] <Nubbie> faileas: so ubuntu runs off an ntfs partition?
[11:00] <Ninurta> You choose login/password from Wubi installer.
[11:00] <MK3> thanks man i will have a go!
[11:00] <Ninurta> Nubbie: yes.
[11:00] <Ninurta> I belive
[11:00] <faileas> Nubbie: it runs off disk images on a NTFS or FAT partition
[11:00] <Ninurta> http://wubi-installer.org/
[11:00] <DARKGuy> could somebody here help me in connecting two Ubuntu computers in an ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network? I run the commands this way and the interfaces can detect each other and seem to connect, but pinging won't work -> http://pastebin.ca/671026 . The devices work both in Windows and Linux, and I tried to set it up using wicd in my tries (been trying this for 2+ days of googling and asking around with no luck) and it worked once, but then I restarted my laptop
[11:00] <DARKGuy>  and it didn't work anymore so I'm trying the manual way. I REALLY need the internet with the two Ubuntu machines so could anybody in God's name help me please? I'm tired and frustrated of googling and searching around...
[11:01] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: are they both wireless?
[11:01] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: yes!
[11:02] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: i believe Network Manager allows you to set up your computer as an access point. then you'd have to have DHCP software installed i believe so computers connecting to it can get an IP address. after that, you can run SSH commands back and forth.
[11:02] <Ninurta> Once I installed Ubuntu and had major difficulty running Whine.
[11:03] <Nubbie> Ninurta: but ubuntu worked....?
[11:03] <deus> does ubuntu got something similar to a plug and play function?
[11:03] <Ninurta> It always gave me errors no matter what procedure I choose to install/configure
[11:03] <Ninurta> Ubuntu worked yes.
[11:03] <Nubbie> Ninurta: what did you need wine for?
[11:03] <Theory`> Ninurta, I have major difficulty running wine in ubuntu as well.
[11:03] <Ninurta> I couldn't use Ubuntu desktop to copy folders onto cd.
[11:03] <Ninurta> Drag and drop.
[11:03] <Ninurta> Or other wise.
[11:03] <Ninurta> manual commands.
[11:03] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: just set IP addresses manually, if you're just talking from one computer to the other
[11:03] <Nubbie> Ninurta: chances are there's a good alternative that runs native to linux.
[11:03] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: don't complicate things with DHCP
[11:03] <yourdaddysdaddy> !udev
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Ninurta> Nubbie: You mean get something other then Ubuntu?
[11:04] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: All I need is to get them to ping each other, then I can share my internet and it's the only thing I want to archieve. I've tried network manager a thousand ways and it has never worked for me - nor the small popup menu showing the detected networks appear, so I have to do it manually with /etc/network/interfaces , which works instead of network manager. I've tried the DHCP too and I've had no luck... I had that idea too :(
[11:04] <BlindSide> !ops
[11:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:04] <faileas> Nubbie: its called installing linux directly ;)
[11:04] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: do you not have a wireless router?
[11:04] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: saw the pastebin? I did -> http://pastebin.ca/671026 but it doesn't seem to work, the two PCs can't ping each other
[11:04] <ompaul> BlindSide, ?
[11:04] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: nope, nor money to get one.
[11:04] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: forget about using wep etc
[11:04] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: just get it working first
[11:05] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: alright
[11:05] <BlindSide> its nothing I was just curious
[11:05] <BlindSide> lo
[11:05] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: understandable. you need to set up one computer as an access point for the other.
[11:05] <rob> heh
[11:05] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: anything I need to change in the scripts?
[11:05] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: ah, you're trying to route from one as well?
[11:05] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: yeah, this computer which ahs internet :P
[11:05] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: yeah, using my PC as gateway to share my internet for my laptop
[11:05] <DARKGuy> I know how to do that already using firestarter and all
[11:05] <DARKGuy> just need the link between the two =(
[11:05] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: looks about right
[11:06] <deus> Does ubuntu got a detect hardware function that can install relevant drivers?
[11:06] <E-mu> Is there a simple method to install Ubuntu on USB? I am sick and tired of all the methods I have seen out there some work some don't. Only successfull USB install I have encountered so far is Damn Small Limux
[11:06] <Ninurta> Any other companies send out CD's anymore for free?
[11:06] <BlindSide> hey when I click a php link in swiftweasel sometimes it wants to download em
[11:06] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: not sure about the routing but you should *at least* be able to ping between .2 and .10
[11:06] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: so set that computer up as an access point, install DHCP server to assign local IP addresses, then you'll need to fiddle with the routing to get stuff forwarded to the second computer.
[11:06] <BlindSide> like half the time
[11:06] <E-mu> Not as a Hard drive but as in Live Cd
[11:06] <E-mu> Live USB
[11:06] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: which doesn't work =/
[11:06] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: get that going first
[11:06] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: Do you know how to? =/
[11:06] <astro76> !install | E-mu
[11:06] <ubotu> E-mu: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:06] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: been trying to
[11:06] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: like I said, don't worry about wep etc at least until you can ping between the two PCSs
[11:06] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: nah i have a wireless router :D
[11:07] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: heh, good for you :P
[11:07] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: but essentially thats what you need to do.
[11:07] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: oki, is there a way I can make it not to use any key? just remove the ra0 key lines and it'll be set open?
[11:07] <TuTUX> E-mu, how big is ur usb?
[11:07] <astro76> E-mu, not sure if there's a relevant link there
[11:07] <kimmey2k3> Any way to speed up transfer between external harddives on USB2.0 to PC?
[11:07] <Bucket> Dude
[11:07] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: yeah, sounds easy, it isn't =(
[11:07] <gordonjcp> DARKGuy: yup
[11:07] <E-mu> thank you
[11:07] <Bucket> Windows is ASS!
[11:07] <DARKGuy> gordonjcp: oki :D
[11:07] <Bucket> >:{
[11:07] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: i don't imagine it is lol.
[11:08] <balthamaisteri> Hi, i've lost my home folder from location bar... how i can get it back?
[11:08] <balthamaisteri> theres only empty space there
[11:08] <E-mu> 4GB kingston and 4GB Sandisk
[11:08] <CorpseFeeder> I can never seem to make this upgrade thing work. This is the second time I've tried to upgrade to feisty. I just get no menu entry for 2.6.20 added to my grub menu... Can I manually enter it? How do I work out the correct info to put into the grub menu.list?
[11:08] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: is there any chance you can run an ethernet cord from one to the other? or does it have to be wireless?
[11:08] <astro76> kimmey2k3, usb (even usb2) is just slow, I have a drive with usb and firewire and the firewire is many times faster
[11:08] <Bucket> Sorry~
[11:08] <kimmey2k3> USB2.0 is MUCH faster in Windows than this
[11:08] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: I would use a crossover cable but sadly I don't have any around :/
[11:08] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: If you successfully upgrade, you'll get the menu entry
[11:09] <E-mu> I have knoppix 5.1.1 and DSL both running on USB but knoppix 5.1.1 does not save changes but dsl does
[11:09] <Bucket> So anyway, how do I make the partition editor actually partition the things instead of saying "ERROR"
[11:09] <astro76> DARKGuy, you can make one if you have a regular cable
[11:09] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: that would eliminate one step, you wouldn't need an access point set up then. but make sure you get a CROSSOVER ethernet cable, that is absolutely essential.
[11:09] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: and it's useless since.... eh, it's a laptop, I should be able to use its wireless properties, it's like having a car and not using the roof to place your bike
[11:09] <rexyy> Anyone knows how i can change port when activationg remote desktop,?, i want port 4899 instead of the default port?
[11:09] <E-mu> withotu any extra effort in scripting I am sure I could fix knoppix 5.1.1 to save changes
[11:09] <pclaven> so anyway, lets say I want to make my own live cd of ubuntu that has certain pages, a special theme and stuff
[11:09] <rob> Bucket, you need to be more specific then that, what were you trying to do and what app were you using
[11:09] <slater> How would I go about checking battery status from tty? acpi returns 'No acpi support in kernel yada yada or bad path /proc/acpi' yet programs like kismet can read the battery status fine..
[11:09] <pclaven> how would i do it
[11:09] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: yeah, but if it worked before why it doesn't now? it's what I'm trying to solve with what I have
[11:10] <pclaven> sorry not pages, apps
[11:10] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: you have had it working before?
[11:10] <felix> Hello there! I've got a little problem: while I installed Ubuntu (7.04) I mounted my two SATA harddiscs to the folders /media/SDA1 and /media/SDB1. Links on the Desktop and at the "places" bar were created. Now I wanted to rename those discs to "data" and "music", so I created the folders in /media/ and wrote everything into the FSTAB. It worked - but the links on the desktop and at the places bar are still labeled "sda1" and "sdb1" -
[11:10] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: Yeah I said it before, with wicd but then I had to restart the laptop because the program bugged out on both PCs and I lost the link
[11:10] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: It also works Ubuntu (pc) -> Windows (laptop)
[11:11] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: It alsways says it was successful, but the menu entry is never here. I think the problem stems from the fact that I have Ubuntu Studio already installed on a separate drive inside this computer, so being as there is already an entry in the menu for 2.6.20-generic in the menu list, it refuses to add another.. And if I choose the 2.6.20-generic entry from the menu at boot up then I just load into Ubuntu Studio on t
[11:11] <Bucket> Distro; Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, Dual boot with XP. Using Gpart I was trying to decrease the size of the Windows partition and eventually increase the size of the Linux partition. I was decreasing the Windows partition first and it said it won't resize due to some error.
[11:11] <nathan> where's the directory for themes to edit them?
[11:11] <deus> Does ubuntu got a detect hardware function that can install relevant drivers?
[11:11] <Nubbie> nathan: you're refusing to listen to our advice.
[11:11] <Bucket> Nathan, System < Preferences < Themes
[11:12] <nathan> Bucket: that doesn't have what I want
[11:12] <E-mu> Is there a commmand to see what the copy progress is from Hard drive to USB? ps x?
[11:12] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: I don't think the upgrade process is equipped to handle my OS configuration and so refuses to add a menu entry...
[11:12] <Nubbie> nathan: sudo apt-get install art-manager
[11:12] <tsmithe> nathan, they are in ~/.themes
[11:12] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: Do you have linux-image-generic at version 2.6.20.XX?
[11:12] <nathan> tsmithe: thanks
[11:12] <tsmithe> or /usr/share/themes
[11:12] <tsmithe> (for systemwide)
[11:12] <rob> Bucket, have you tried the live cd partition manager? I've personally only ran into problems using Gparted on a live running from the same hard drive system.
[11:12] <astro76> Bucket, ubuntu livecd? is the drive mounted (icon on the desktop)?
[11:12] <tsmithe> nathan, no problem :)
[11:12] <Bucket> I'm using Gparted from the liveCD.
[11:12] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: What do you mean?
[11:12] <Bucket> Yeh, it was.
[11:12] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: erm, why do you have them on separate drives?
[11:13] <pclaven> How do i create my own ubuntu live cd??
[11:13] <Bucket> I have partitioned before, I just want to increase the partition.
[11:13] <astro76> Bucket, in Gparted, right click on partition and click Unmount
[11:13] <s0nix> anyone is here? i have a question....... im doing a home dvd.... with 4 mpeg file....... a program generated me a folder DVD (with audio_ts, and video_ts)......... if i burn with K3B ... a DVD data project..... and adding theses two folders (audio_ts, video_ts)........ is it gonna work on my TV dvd ?
 on the whole yes, but depends what exactly you are talking about
[11:13] <astro76> Bucket, it shouldn't automount again after you do that
[11:13] <Nubbie> lol is anyone here... look at all the text flying.
[11:13] <Bucket> I think it did.
[11:13] <slater> Disregard.. I found apm ;)
[11:13] <Bucket> k
[11:13] <Bucket> I unmounted from the desktop too
[11:13] <TuTUX> pclaven, for all your required, sounds like you want to make your own distro
[11:14] <astro76> Bucket, if you unmount from the desktop it will keep remounting
[11:14] <Flannel> pclaven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:14] <astro76> Bucket, supposedly if you unmount from gparted it won't
[11:14] <Nubbie> s0nix: if it converted the video files to standard MPEG2, yeah it should.
[11:14] <voradams> Ok people, USB wireless G device from Belkin, using the rt73 chipset. Should run out of the box acording to websearch. turned off ipv6, used both kubutu and ubutu, have a dlink router. Can not link, yet iwconfig and iwscan can see the router. any ideas?
[11:14] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: because I just happened to have two drives and decided to put a different OS on each one. Edgy on the main drive and Studio on the other. Is there anything wrong with that?
[11:14] <Bucket> eh
[11:14] <astro76> Bucket, if you still have problems, just use the GPartedLiveCD
[11:14] <pclaven> thank you very much Flannel
[11:14] <Bucket> that worked nicely, thank you Astro.
[11:14] <astro76> Bucket, excellent
[11:14] <s0nix> Nubbie:  thx
[11:14] <Bucket> Well, touch wood, it's working for now~
[11:14] <Nubbie> voradams: your dns settings right?
[11:14] <nathan> any way to not have to press ctrl-l to see path?
[11:14] <Nubbie> Bucket: let me know :)
[11:15] <yagami> is it possible that if i drag-copy files in nautilus it does not copy directories after it reaches the 5th or 6th recursive directories?
[11:15] <yagami> the contents in them, specifically.
[11:15] <voradams> Nubbie: DNS should be gotten from dhcp
[11:15] <Nubbie> nathan: edit nautilus preferences.
[11:15] <Nubbie> voradams: should be, but did it?
[11:15] <Bucket> I'm sure this room will be the first to know if I encounter any problems...
[11:15] <Bucket> Well, first to know after me of course.
[11:15] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody with experience can help me setting up a dhcp3 server for giving local IP addresses to the computers that connect to my computer? Either that or helping me set up a wireless ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network between two Ubuntu Feisty machines... please :(
[11:15] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: You should have them on the same drive, same partition, etc.  Theyre the same Ubuntu.  Your problem is that, from what it sounds like, you've got a /boot for studio, and a /boot for non, and your studio one is the one that's being used, so even if your non-studio upgrades, you won't see it.
[11:15] <Nubbie> Bucket: and your alter ego :)
[11:15] <nathan> I don't see it in the preferences
[11:16] <voradams> Nubbie: no, both knetworkmanager and the ubuntu network aqpplet do not connect and get that far
[11:16] <Bucket> I dun have an alter ego~!
[11:16] <Polygon89> Hey, im trying to compile something and im getting this error: configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora "             does this mean i have to have a gtk version LESS then 2.10?
[11:16] <faileas> no
[11:16] <Nubbie> Polygon89: no it means you need a gtk version higher than that lol.
[11:16] <faileas> you need a newer version
[11:16] <Flannel> Polygon89: GTK+ [dash]  2.10, dash separates the version number, + is because it's `GTK+`
[11:17] <faileas> and a dev or devel one
[11:17] <felix> Hello there! I've got a little problem: while I installed Ubuntu (7.04) I mounted my two SATA harddiscs to the folders /media/SDA1 and /media/SDB1. Links on the Desktop and at the "places" bar were created. Now I wanted to rename those discs to "data" and "music", so I created the folders in /media/ and wrote everything into the FSTAB. It worked - but the links on the desktop and at the places bar are still labeled "sda1" and "sdb1" -
[11:17] <Nubbie> felix: did you remount them?
[11:17] <guitarhero> hi
[11:18] <astro76> felix, what filesystems?
[11:18] <felix> Nubbie: I umounted everything and after that I remounted them with the FSTAB I wrote -> sudo mount -a
[11:18] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody with experience can help me setting up a dhcp3 server for giving local IP addresses to the computers that connect to my computer? Either that or helping me set up a wireless ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network between two Ubuntu Feisty machines... please :(
[11:18] <felix> astro76: The SATA discs are both EXT3.
[11:19] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: if you do go wireless, you still need a DHCP server lol.
[11:19] <glick> hey is there anyway to get alternative keys on the keyboard?
[11:19] <glick> like the a with two dots on it and stuff?
[11:19] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: Not really, if it was working before without dhcp, why would I need it now?
[11:20] <arman> can anyone tell me a great software to diagnose my hard drives????
[11:20] <astro76> felix, a quick fix might be to right click on the icons, select properties, go to volume tab, and set the mount point there also (but for example, use data NOT /media/data)
[11:20] <Nubbie> DARKGuy: because you need to assign local IP addresses.
[11:20] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: I did with wicd. I want to do it the manual way now. If wicd could, which by the way it isn't any dhcp server, why can't I in the manual way?
[11:20] <UBUNTU01> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/ubuntu.html
[11:20] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: but the studio and edgy seem to co-exist in the menu on different drives, so why can't I have my drive with edgy on have feisty too?.. Anyway.. is there any easy way to fix this so I can get feisty onto my main drive AND retain all my installed programs and documents etc? Cos right now the only way I can find to upgrade the main drive is to run the feisty install CD and format/install a new fresh install, losing
[11:20] <Nubbie> arman: diagnose? fsck
[11:21] <DARKGuy> Nubbie: and if you see the pastebin -> http://pastebin.ca/671034 I -am- assigning local IP addresses, a gateway and a netmask
[11:21] <glick> is there a way i can do that?
[11:21] <predaeus> arman, hdparm gives info and control of hard drives. but it is no diagnosis tool.
[11:21] <glick> assign aditional characters to keys?
[11:22] <bullgard4> I am not very well versed in the Ubuntu directory tree. I have got an irssi-0.8.11.tar.bz2 file from the Internet. Where to store it on my computer according to the rules?
[11:22] <astro76> bullgard4, compiled software should go under /usr/local/
[11:22] <felix> astro76: So you assume, as I do, that this is a bug from Nautilus?
[11:22] <Bonzodog> CorpseFeeder: can't you just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the edgy install?
[11:22] <astro76> bullgard4, but you know feisty has 0.8.10 in the repos
[11:23] <bullgard4> astro76: But my archive does not contain compiled software.
[11:23] <Tha-Fox> ?
[11:23] <voradams> i can manually force the ESSID onto the right name, but dhclient can not get the dhcp lease
[11:23] <astro76> felix, no not nautilus, it might be a udev rule that's set
[11:23] <Bucket> k, anyone who is concerned, that kinda worked, I did get an error towards the end, but it appears to have partitioned anyway which is neat~this happened when I originally created a partition and everything was fine...
[11:23] <TuTUX> how to open a gnome-terminal and auto have a command input?
[11:24] <astro76> bullgard4, a binary distributed as .tar.bz2 ?
[11:24] <arman> thanx for help
[11:24] <felix> astro76: Which means - what?
[11:24] <CorpseFeeder> Bonzodog: I've already tried that several times - same thing. Tells me it is a success, but I still get no entry for the grub menu at boot up, the only feisty kernel options on grub menu always load the UbuntuStudio kernels on the second drive.
[11:24] <Bonzodog> CorpseFeeder: ah hah
[11:24] <astro76> bullgard4, I think you have the source
[11:25] <Bonzodog> yeah....um...
[11:25] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: Because your sources.list is your Studio sources.list
[11:25] <nighthawk07> my ubuntu won't start the X terminal after booting....
[11:25] <bullgard4> astro76: My  irssi-0.8.11.tar.bz2 file contains source code and associated explanatory and help files but no compiled software.
[11:25] <DARKGuy> could somebody here help me in connecting two Ubuntu computers in a wireless ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network? I run the commands this way and the interfaces can detect each other and seem to connect, but pinging won't work -> http://pastebin.ca/671026 . The devices work both in Windows and Linux, and I tried to set it up using wicd in my tries (been trying this for 2+ days of googling and asking around with no luck) and it worked once, but then I restarted m
[11:25] <DARKGuy> y laptop and it didn't work anymore so I'm trying the manual way. I REALLY need the internet with the two Ubuntu machines so could anybody in God's name help me please? I'm tired and frustrated of googling and searching around...
[11:25] <Bonzodog> Flannel: he shoudl have one sources.list for studio and one for edgy
[11:25] <Bonzodog> they are two different roots
[11:25] <predaeus> bullgard4, just unpack it anywhere in your home. You can create a downloads folder in you home if you want. if it is not a tarbomb it will unpack to a directory and not the files all over the current directory. then move on from there.
[11:25] <Flannel> Bonzodog: But in different places.
[11:26] <TuTUX> for example, i want to make a icon which open a gnome-terminal and runs top automatically, whats the command i should put?
[11:26] <vsayikiran> does anyone know how to use wallpaper tray
[11:26] <astro76> bullgard4, exactly, by compiled I mean you will compile it :)
[11:26] <Flannel> Bonzodog: right.  His stage1 is pointing to the studio version.
[11:26] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: Bonzodog is right, I have separate sources list for each installation.
[11:26] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: that's what I said originally.  You really should just have *one* installation, with both things installed in it.
[11:26] <Bonzodog> so is there an entry for the edgy drive on re-boot in the grub?
[11:27] <astro76> bullgard4, you should tell it (if it doesn't already) to install to /usr/local
[11:27] <d4rkmonkey> Whats the difference between server version and normal version of Ubuntu?
[11:27] <Bonzodog> I bet that entry says it is the new kernel
[11:27] <Flannel> d4rkmonkey: the packages installed by default
[11:27] <d4rkmonkey> Flannel ok, thanks.
[11:27] <Bonzodog> oh bloody hell
[11:27] <Flannel> Bonzodog: I'll bet it's an old kernel, whatever edgy had when he installed Studio.
[11:27] <TuTUX> Flannel, ?
[11:27] <vsayikiran> how to use wallpaper tray
[11:27] <thedash> can Ubuntu list picture files by dimensions ?
[11:27] <Bonzodog> CorpseFeeder: where is the grub menu.lst?
[11:27] <glick> is there anyway i can set it so that for example if i hit a certain key combination i can spell different letters?
[11:27] <glick> of different alphabets?
[11:28] <astro76> !checkinstall | bullgard4 also consider checkinstall
[11:28] <ubotu> bullgard4 also consider checkinstall: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[11:28] <Bonzodog> is it on the studio install or the 'edgy' instal;l?
[11:28] <Bonzodog> I bet it;s the studio install
[11:28] <predaeus> TuTUX, create a starter for "gnome-terminal -x top"
[11:28] <Bonzodog> in which case, it needs manually altering to see the upgraded edgy install correctly
[11:28] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: I know that now, but that doesn't help me now though :(..another stupid thing that has happened with my system - When I boot into edgy (which I'm using now) uname tells me my kernel is 2.6.17, but the stupid system monitor tells me I'm running feisty 7.04, so the upgrade process seems to have told edgy it's feisty...
[11:28] <predaeus> TuTUX, see "man gnome-terminal" for details
[11:28] <TuTUX> thanks
[11:29] <bullgard4> predaeus, astro76 : Thank you very much for commenting.
[11:29] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: it's because you *have* upgraded to Feisty, but you're using the old kernel.
[11:29] <DARKGuy> Hey, could somebody here please help me in connecting two Ubuntu computers in a wireless ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network? I run the commands this way and the interfaces can detect each other and seem to connect, but pinging won't work -> http://pastebin.ca/671034 . The devices work both in Windows and Linux, and I tried to set it up using wicd in my tries (been trying this for 2+ days of googling and asking around with no luck) and it worked once, but then I
[11:29] <DARKGuy>  restarted my laptop and it didn't work anymore so I'm trying the manual way. I REALLY need the internet with the two Ubuntu machines so could anybody in here help me please?  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:29] <arooni> can i just use vmware?
[11:29] <Bonzodog> Flannel: it's his grub install
[11:30] <astro76> DARKGuy, you should seriously consider a crossover cable :)
[11:30] <Bonzodog> not the upgardes per se
[11:30] <astro76> DARKGuy, you can modify a regular one
[11:30] <Bonzodog> grub will still only use ONE menu.lst
[11:30] <Flannel> Bonzodog: No, it's the fact that he's got two sources.list, and is using the studio one.
[11:30] <Flannel> erm, menu.lst.  Have I been saying sources.list this whole time?
[11:30] <vsayikiran> does anyome know how to use wallpaper tray
[11:30] <Bonzodog> yes
[11:30] <DARKGuy> astro76: Yeah I have that idea but I have no money, it's 5:33 am and there's no computer place open at this hour, besides I had the link working - why should I look for alternatives when there's just something wrong with Ubuntu itself?
[11:30] <Flannel> Oh, well, that explains why I was confusing the two of you.
[11:30] <Bucket> Wootness, windows survived!!!!
[11:31] <nbkr> Hi. I have a question about customising the live cd. I managed to install some additional applications (tightvncserver and plink), but I'm wondering how I can run them at boot time. Simple creating a script in /etc/init.d and running update-rc.d didn't work.
[11:31] <Bonzodog> his grub install is confused
[11:31] <vsayikiran> plz plz somebodyt tell me how to use wallpaper tray
[11:31] <astro76> DARKGuy, well it will be much faster, and I assumed you had a regular ethernet cable already
[11:31] <DARKGuy> Flannel: it's incredible that 1026 people don't know the answer -_-
[11:31] <Bonzodog> his grub menu.lst is on his studio root
[11:31] <d4rkmonkey> vsayikiran wallpaper tray?
[11:31] <Bonzodog> that grub looks at when booting
[11:31] <vsayikiran> yes
[11:31] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: what you *should* do is just ditch one install, and merge it with the other.
[11:31] <DARKGuy> astro76: yeah I know xD and if I had I wouldn't be asking =(
[11:31] <d4rkmonkey> vsayikiran what wallpaper tray?
[11:31] <vsayikiran> wallpaper tray
[11:31] <Bonzodog> personally, I would use Feisty studio
[11:32] <vsayikiran> it is a package to change wallpaper frequently
[11:32] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: yeah.. it won't let me access the new kernel cos no menu entry. The menu.list which loads is the one on the edgy drive.
[11:32] <shape> g' day guys
[11:32] <Flannel> Bonzodog: He's still booting his edgy kernel on his feisty install, because his studio menu.lst isn't updating his edgy kernel, because its not an automagical one.
[11:32] <Bonzodog> just one OS on the whole disk, and create a seperate /home when you do the clean install
[11:32] <vsayikiran> just likek webshots in windows
[11:32] <shape> i'm on a kubuntu dapper and wish to pass on a feisty fawn
[11:32] <Flannel> No.  No need to reinstall
[11:32] <Flannel> !upgrade | shape
[11:32] <ubotu> shape: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:32] <CorpseFeeder> Bonzodog: the menu.list on the Studio drive is not being used.
[11:32] <shape> how i can do it without losing my data
[11:33] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no, that is the one being used.
[11:33] <Bonzodog> CorpseFeeder: how do you know that?
[11:33] <vsayikiran> is there anyone who has used wallpaper tray
[11:33] <balbir> recommended vmware software in ubuntu? [how?]
[11:33] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: Which one have you done more to? (which is your main install?)
[11:33] <astro76> vsayikiran, look in /usr/share/doc/wallpaper-tray/README for a start
[11:33] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: because I can look at it on text editer and the see the entries in the edgy drive's menu are the ones I see at boot up
[11:33] <Bonzodog> like Flannel, I just don't understand why he has two ubuntu installs
[11:34] <Flannel> Bonzodog: because he installed Ubuntu, and then installed Ubuntu studio on a separate partition
[11:34] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: the edgy drive is my main drive. I don't really have anything but a base install on the Studio drive right now.
[11:34] <Bonzodog> I wouls suggest starting again
[11:34] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no, you don't see the same entries.  On the grub menu, you see studio ones, in the edgy install, you don't see studio entries
[11:34] <twager> Just got compiz running ok but how do I exit it and get back to the normal desktop  ??
[11:35] <Bonzodog> when grub writes the menu.lst, it automagically looks for all entries
[11:35] <Javid> metacity --replace
[11:35] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: alright.  Good.  We're going to get rid of the studio install.  First, we're going to update grub to point to your edgy/feisty install, then well, you'll have everything there.
[11:35] <Bonzodog> and other OS's
[11:35] <vsayikiran> i am not able to recycle wallpaper
[11:35] <Flannel> Bonzodog: no.  He doesn't need to start again.
[11:35] <Javid> twager: metacity --replace
[11:35] <Flannel> !grub | CorpseFeeder
[11:35] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:35] <twager> Thanks Javid
[11:35] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: follow those instructions, make sure you update grub to the correct (edgy/feisty) one.
[11:35] <Javid> ^^
[11:36] <d4rkmonkey> This may be a bit offtopic, but what programming language do you suggest for someone who wants to start making games? I know PHP HTML and CSS right now, but those are web languages...
[11:36] <vsayikiran> i am not able to recycle wallpaper
[11:36] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: once you do that, we'll delete the studio drive/partition/whatever (and oyu'll have lots of space to put morestuff!) and then you'll add studio to your current feisty install
[11:36] <balbir> how to install vmware in ubuntu?
[11:36] <vsayikiran> can anyone tell how to use wallpaper tray
[11:36] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: I don't understand what you mean? The entries in my menu.list file on the Studio drive are completely different to what I see at boot up time. Why do you insist the grub menu.list on my Studio drive is the one being used?
[11:36] <astro76> d4rkmonkey, probably c++ (and out of those only php is a language :) )
[11:37] <vsayikiran> wallpaper tray doesn't change wallpaper automatically
[11:37] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: sure, pastebin them both.
[11:37] <CorpseFeeder> ok.
[11:37] <nbkr> balbir: Just download the installer from vmware.com, Install the kernel-sources, make and gcc if not already done and run the VMware Installer.
[11:37] <vsayikiran> is therer someone who as used wallpaper tray
[11:37] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: because that would make sense with what you're describing.
[11:37] <Flannel> !repeat | vsayikiran
[11:37] <ubotu> vsayikiran: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:37] <balbir> nbkr: thanks :)
[11:38] <vsayikiran> isn't there anyone who has use wallpaper-tray
[11:38] <DARKGuy> Hey, could somebody here please help me in connecting two Ubuntu computers in a wireless ad-hoc (pc-to-pc) network? I run the commands this way and the interfaces can detect each other and seem to connect, but pinging won't work -> http://pastebin.ca/671034 . The devices work both in Windows and Linux, and I tried to set it up using wicd in my tries (been trying this for 2+ days of googling and asking around with no luck) and it worked once, but then I
[11:38] <DARKGuy>  restarted my laptop and it didn't work anymore so I'm trying the manual way. I REALLY need the internet with the two Ubuntu machines so could anybody in here help me please? I'm tired and frustrated of googling and searching around... I have no money nor a way to get a crossover cable so that's not an option. A DHCP server is an option, but I don't know how to install one and I've followed numerous google and forum guides with no information that coul
[11:38] <DARKGuy> d help in my case. Anyone around able to help me please?
[11:38] <balbir> nbkr: can we have any other vitual machine available in ubunt [parallel|xen]
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> !repeat | vsayikiran
[11:38] <ubotu> vsayikiran: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:38] <astro76> vsayikiran, guess not, it's a pretty specific question. try searching ubuntuforums.org or google
[11:38] <vsayikiran> i am not ablw recycle wallpaper
[11:38] <twager> Javid: command not found ?
[11:39] <nbkr> balbir: You can use qemu and virtualbox with ubuntu. Xen should also be possible and I think it is included in 7.10.
[11:39] <Javid> hmm
[11:39] <Javid> install beryl-manager, it has a menu to select your window manager
[11:39] <balbir> nbkr: thanks :)
[11:39] <Flannel> DARKGuy: Have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[11:40] <DARKGuy> Flannel: Yes, in fact, I made that one XD
[11:40] <ljsmithx> Hi
[11:40] <ljsmithx> Ubuntu doesnt work on my Powerpc mac
[11:40] <Flannel> !doesntwork | ljsmithx
[11:40] <ubotu> ljsmithx: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:41] <Javid> wave a chicken over it and chant
[11:41] <DARKGuy> Flannel: I could get it working for my laptop when it was on Windows and so I made that HowTo with my D-Link DWL-G122 card. Yet I haven't been able to make it work on Ubuntu, ironically
[11:41] <Javid> "gunga lunga gunga lunga ubuntu malalala"
[11:41] <ljsmithx> Flannel, sorry
[11:41] <ljsmithx> Ok ill start from the top
[11:42] <vsayikiran> hey can one telll me how to use wall paper tray
[11:42] <Venko> How do I prevent backup copies of files being made when I edit them? (the ones suffixed by ~)
[11:42] <astro76> vsayikiran, those messages from ubotu meant to NOT keep repeating your question
[11:42] <Flannel> vsayikiran: *please* stop repeating your question so often.  15 or 20 minutes is a good interval.  30 seconds is not.
[11:42] <Javid> !pants | flannel
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <ljsmithx> The HDD has been formated in win(ithink) now it has no OS installed on it, so i shoved it in my PowerPC mac and tried to install Ubuntu for PPC, but during the install it tells me somthing about it cant find the Apple boot partition
[11:43] <ljsmithx> Any help?
[11:43] <nbkr> Venko: Which software does produce the backup files? vim, gedit?
[11:44] <Venko> I believe it's only Gedit that produces them.
[11:44] <Javid> I don't think Macs are compatible with standard HDDs. I may be wrong as I have never touched a mac in my life.
[11:44] <ljsmithx> Javid, they are
[11:44] <Javid> OK, ignore me then
[11:44] <ljsmithx> Javid, no
[11:44] <jscinoz> Going through /usr/include/linux/input.h what is the event for mouse scrollwheel downwards?
[11:44] <Javid> ^^
[11:44] <Bonzodog> the mac bios does not use a normal boot process
[11:44] <ljsmithx> :D
[11:44] <ljsmithx> Ok...
[11:45] <Bonzodog> it won't talk to grub
[11:45] <ljsmithx> How do i fix that?
[11:45] <Javid> I'm curious how to install it on a mac too, since I have a mac laptop serving no other use right now
[11:45] <Parisi> gnite all
[11:45] <Venko> And I think I've found the solution myself. Sorry for wasting your time and thanks.
[11:45] <TtyS2> has any one installed Getbinnews on ubuntu
[11:45] <bjames> hi all
[11:45] <Bonzodog> I don' know what the mac boot manager is called
[11:45] <vsayikiran> /info Bonzodog
[11:45] <ljsmithx> Ok
[11:46] <ljsmithx> Theres YAboot
[11:46] <ljsmithx> bjames, hi
[11:46] <bjames> I have a general question - when using multiple desktops how do I control which windows appear on one desktop window bar and which appear on the window bar for all windows?
[11:46] <astro76> ljsmithx, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/powerpc/index.html
[11:46] <nbkr> Venko: Edit -> Settings (maybe preferences, I don't know what it is labeled in Englisch) -> Editor. There you can deactive the creation of backup files.
[11:46] <bjames> (not sure if window bar is the right word here)
[11:47] <ljsmithx> astro76, hmmm
[11:47] <bjames> the panel showing each window at the bottom of the screen (by default)
[11:47] <Venko> Yeah, I found it (if you see my message above). Sorry for using your time, nbkr.
[11:47] <Venko> I'm just happy to know there won't be loads of backup files cluttering my system now.
[11:47] <e> Burstfire.UK.EU.GameSurge.net
[11:47] <e> how to go there ?
[11:48] <Bonzodog> jumble: add it as a server in xchat
[11:48] <Bonzodog> if it's an irc server
[11:48] <jumble> it is
[11:48] <jumble> annother network
[11:48] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: finally, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35094/
[11:48] <Bonzodog> yes
[11:48] <jumble> how to change networkx ?
[11:48] <astro76> bjames, if you click the icon on the left of the title bar, there are options
[11:49] <Bonzodog> I don't use xchat now
[11:49] <Bonzodog> so I cannot remember how to add servers
[11:49] <bjames> astro76: only for minimise/maximise
[11:49] <Bonzodog> but it's there in the menu
[11:49] <MK3> hi guys im in the terminal as root, how do i change directory?
[11:49] <Bonzodog> for xchat
[11:49] <bjames> astro76: nothing about "show on all desktops", etc
[11:49] <bjames> :(
[11:49] <astro76> bjames, are you using compiz or beryl or something?
[11:49] <ljsmithx> I think
[11:49] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: and which set of options do you get a boot?
[11:50] <Bonzodog> MK3: cd /path/to/directory
[11:50] <ljsmithx> I think that I might have to install os9/10 to get back the AppleBoot Partition the install linux
[11:50] <TtyS2> MK3: use cd
[11:50] <ljsmithx> Will that work?
[11:50] <nbkr> Is there a way to run an init script on a customized Ubuntu 7.04 Live CD?
[11:50] <Flannel> ljsmithx: It should, yes.
[11:51] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: what? Do you mean you want me to try every entry and see which ones will boot?
[11:51] <ljsmithx> Ok, ive got OS9 Install CD
[11:51] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no.  Which set of options do you get in your GRUB menu when you boot?
[11:51] <bjames> astro76: I'm using compiz
[11:51] <bjames> ;)
[11:51] <ljsmithx> How do I go about boot it(OS 9)?
[11:51] <astro76> bjames, figured... nothing but problems
[11:52] <astro76> bjames, try asking in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz
[11:52] <astro76> !compiz
[11:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <jumble> what again is the command to "join" annother network plz ?`
[11:52] <bjames> astro76: ok - I don't see why it shouldn't work because of the 3D effects though
[11:52] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: the options listed in the bottom section of my paste, after the ****************** line.
[11:52] <bjames> astro76: thanks for the info
[11:52] <astro76> jumble, try #xchat
[11:52] <jumble> #xchat
[11:52] <jumble> oO ^
[11:52] <jumble> mom
[11:53] <astro76> astro76, because it's very buggy beta software
[11:53] <astro76> bjames, ^
[11:53] <Bonzodog> jumble: no, try /connect <name of network>
[11:53] <astro76> bjames, and you've replaced your window manager with it, don't forget
[11:53] <MK3> thanks so much 4 ur help guys, as have been used to dos for so long so should have tried CD command lol
[11:53] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: and you're sure these are labelled correctly?  studio drive, non-studio drive?
[11:53] <Bonzodog> MK3: dos got it's commands from unix
[11:53] <MK3> lol i see
[11:54] <MK3> well that will help me then
[11:54] <astro76> bjames, it's probably just done differently there, anyway ask in #ubuntu-effects ;)
[11:54] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: I see all the 2.6.20 low latency/recovery/generic etc at the top of the list and the 2.6.17 etc at the bottom of the list. No. I'm not sure of anything anymore...
[11:54] <Bonzodog> but not all of them
[11:54] <bjames> astro76: am doing
[11:54] <bjames> cheers
[11:54] <bjames> bye
[11:54] <Bonzodog> I suggest looking for a bash commands guide on the net
[11:54] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: since I think they're labeled backwards.  Is studio hda2 or hdb2?
[11:54] <MK3> ok will do
[11:54] <jumble> bonzodog : This command is for network staff only
[11:55] <Bucket> damnit, how long does it normally take to copy a partition?!
[11:55] <jumble> i know that it works normally but i dont know this network here, cuse i come from gamesurge normally
[11:56] <Bonzodog> well, /connect is an iRC client command not a server command
[11:56] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: lowlatency is studio kernels.  The 2.6.17 is edgy, Theyre at the bottom, because studio added your previous options to the bottom of the list when it installed.  However, it added static ones, they won't ever be updated (when you upgraded to feisty, your kernel options didn't change).  Which is why when you boot that kernel, evne though it's a feisty one, you don't get a feisty kernel.  And actually, even in edgy, you never ran updated kernel
[11:57] <GIn> hi