[14:16] <faze> i would prefer the text-based one, if that's what the server install has
[14:16] <faze> i am booting from a usb stick
[14:16] <c[_]> DonoPatay: i'll try that thanks
[14:16] <llutz> canihojr: they don't exist in ubuntu afaik. its debian-repos
[14:17] <faze> !help
[14:17] <canihojr> llutz, aha, then, for install nvidia ofi? any tutorial?
[14:17] <cgtdk> faze: Yes, it's the installer the server uses. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:17] <faze> does this channel have a knowledge bot
[14:17] <faze> cgtdk: thanks
[14:17] <llutz> !nvidia
[14:17] <faze> llutz: thanks
[14:17] <canihojr> ty
[14:17] <poz> anyone here an expert on dual boots on different hard drives?
[14:18] <c[_]> lenovo: don't dcc me use pm
[14:18] <dr_willis> poz:  should work fine. its fairly common practice
[14:18] <Toph2> poz,,, ask your question,,, there probably are
[14:19] <poz> dr_willis, it is not. when i try to load windows 7 from grub it says that it is an invalid device signature or something alone those lines
[14:19] <faze> cgtdk: so if i select the 'Desktop' generic package in the text based installer it will grab unity?
[14:19] <lenovo> sorry
[14:19] <poz> not working fine, I mean. I am sure it is common practice...
[14:19] <PoolShark_> hi. I'm having trouble installing afterstep in Precise. The packages installed and the /usr/share/xsessions/Desktop.afterstep file is there, and the binary is good, but the option does not show up in the sessions selection at the login screen
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: You're talking about the package selector interface in the text-based installer right?
[14:20] <DonoPatay> c[_] : What i meant for a few hours is actually how long your laptop usually charges up to a full charge. Then after that discharge the battery to about 40% below and try charging normally. If the symptom still persist you may need to replace your  battery.
[14:20] <faze> cgtdk: yes
[14:20] <poz> I could restart and get exactly what it says...
[14:20] <faze> since you asked that question, i assume the answer is yes :)
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: I usually just select no packages in that one so I don't get a graphical desktop
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: and then when the installation is done I install whatever desktop I want
[14:21] <faze> cgtdk: ah. i am trying to set this up to run Steam
[14:21] <faze> so i suppose i will want the desktop
[14:21] <faze> ah
[14:21] <cgtdk> faze: Sure, but I think you should wait until the installation is done. That always works better for me.
[14:21] <faze> cgtdk: ah ok. so apt-get install unity will install the necessary packages
[14:22] <cgtdk> faze: actually I think the package is called "ubuntu-desktop".
[14:22] <c[_]> when i'm installing ubuntu do I really need an internet connection?
[14:22] <faze> ok, that's what i thought
[14:22] <faze> thanks for the help
[14:22] <cgtdk> no problem :)
[14:22] <faze> i prefer command line whenever possible anyways :)
[14:22] <DonoPatay> c[_]: nope. dont need to.
[14:23] <c[_]> ah good :) thanks DonoPatay
[14:23] <dean_> Hi all is there anyone knowledgeable with devede?
[14:23] <dr_willis> dean_:  used it befor.. state the actual  problrm andf see
[14:24] <faze> !pm
[14:24] <dean_> dr_willis, I am trying to convert an mkv format to iso but it isn't converting the subtitles within the mkv?
[14:25] <ModNStuff_> !OT
[14:26] <poz> so what i want to do is recreate an item in grub which will direct to windows 7 bootloader. I am not sure how though
[14:26] <ModNStuff_> POZ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:26] <faze> cgtdk: my keyboard and mouse die as soon as i get into the text installer!
[14:27] <faze> i wonder if the command line installer will work..
[14:27] <poz> thank you ModNStuff_
[14:27] <faze> huh, maybe i should bust out some ps/2 equipment
[14:27] <belgianguy> hmm, seems there _are_ quite some games for ubuntu
[14:27] <faze> i have no idea why this is happening
[14:28] <belgianguy> just played an alpha version for a game called 0AD (zero A.D.), looks great
[14:28] <cgtdk> Seems like an annoying problem, faze. Good idea about the PS/2 equipment. PS/2 is much less of a hassle than USB devices in my experience.
[14:28] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: try MegaGlest
[14:28] <dr_willis> dean_:  cant say ive ever used subtitles.  could be you need to split them out with ffmpeg or mencoder
[14:28] <faze> i have a ps/2 keyboard and an adapter for the mouse. it seems like the power dies whenever i get in an installer
[14:29] <belgianguy> DonoPatay: oh, nice!
[14:30] <faze> mmm ps/2 keyboard is functional
[14:30] <dean_> dr_willis, In the past when doing mp4 or avi you attach the srt to do project but with mkv it is contained in the mkv file so not sure what I have to do and devede hasn't got any support for this issue?
[14:30] <faze> old tech saves the day
[14:30] <belgianguy> why don't these things ever bubble up on tech forums? :/
[14:30] <belgianguy> or am I looking in the wrong places?
[14:30] <dr_willis> dean_:  you may want to check the devede forums
[14:30] <dr_willis> or homepage
[14:30] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: what do you mean?
[14:31] <dean_> dr_willis, Thats where I am at the mo but there is nothing posted on this particular issue
[14:31] <ModNStuff_> i BELIVE he misses bubbles
[14:31] <belgianguy> DonoPatay: If you hadn't shown me that, I wouldn't know of its existence
[14:31] <ModNStuff_> believe
[14:33] <ModNStuff_> GOOD OL cherry chew tabac
[14:33] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, ?
[14:33] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, what are you talking about
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> ModNStuff_, do you have a support question?
[14:34] <faze> cgtdk: the text installer is working well with the ps/2 keyboard. thanks for the help
[14:34] <ModNStuff_> thought id say something since no one is asking for help
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic | ModNStuff_, you should be aware of this
[14:34] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , regardless of how busy it is here at the moment
[14:35] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: Try visiting these sites. http://www.penguspy.com/ and http://www.penguspy.com/ and welcome to the world of linux gaming!
[14:35] <ModNStuff_> Lol obviously you have been gone been in this chat for about 3 hours now and i say something and get ran over by 2 random guys
[14:35] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, move on
[14:35] <ModNStuff_> You move on
[14:36] <cgtdk> faze: awesome! no problem :)
[14:36] <Flamekebab> I've got an external hard disk that I'm sharing through Samba. The problem is despite having it setup in fstab using UUID it keeps mounting at a different place (it's supposed to mount at /media/share1 but it's power supply will flake out for a moment and then it'll get mounted at /media/share1_ )
[14:36] <barbadillo> hi all
[14:36] <nicholas> have a display manager problem in ubuntu?
[14:36] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: Try visiting these sites. http://www.penguspy.com/ and http://www.playdeb.net/ and welcome to the world of linux gaming!
[14:36] <barbadillo> I installed ubuntu via wubi
[14:37] <poz> should my windows boot loader be type chainloader or other?
[14:37] <barbadillo> 12.10
[14:37] <faze> Flamekebab: rip out the disk and put it in your machine
[14:37] <barbadillo> I have a problem, my computer restart by itself after the login in unity
[14:37] <Flamekebab> faze - it's connected to a Raspberry Pi
[14:37] <faze> Flamekebab: secure the power connector?
[14:37] <dr_willis> Flamekebab:  mount to like /media/shares/share1  then share the /media/shares directory ;)
[14:37] <faze> i suppose placing it in a raspberry pi is impossible :P
[14:37] <poz> barbadillo, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[14:38] <barbadillo> but only for the first time, after the spontaneous restart, it goes ok
[14:38] <faze> dr_willis' solution is good too
[14:38] <barbadillo> poz nvidia
[14:38] <faze> i suggest tackling the hardware problem
[14:38] <xetius> barbadillo, have you tried other login? gnome?
[14:38] <dr_willis> flakey power is not good in linux
[14:38] <Flamekebab> faze - the power connector isn't the issue, it's the external supply. I'm looking into replacing it as soon as I can but given the time of year it may take a few weeks :)
[14:38] <faze> ah
[14:38] <xetius> barbadillo: just unity or gnome etc as well?
[14:38] <barbadillo> xetius, no, but it is the same with the other os
[14:38] <faze> well, what dr_willis said would work
[14:39] <Flamekebab> dr_willis, that's no good. I need it to stay a fixed point for the other machines that use the shares in XBMC. If the share moves they lose all TV show info.
[14:39] <xetius> barbadillo: What other OS?
[14:39] <barbadillo> xetius, also booting windows it restarts after the login
[14:39] <faze> you could write a script to monitor the directory and create a symlink if the mountpoint changes
[14:40] <dr_willis> Flamekebab:  xbmc can read from  upnp/dlna servers also.. if the hd power is cutting out thats going to be an issue.
[14:40] <poz> barbadillo: this might work, there are some details from a chat I had yesterday. if it is a graphics problem that is... http://pastebin.com/GkUK6jnn
[14:40] <barbadillo> xetius, do you think it could be a hardware problem?
[14:40] <xetius> barbadillo: I would imagine it is when it is trying to initialise some piece of hardware.  Can you try remove all other devices connected
[14:40] <faze> Flamekebab: is the pi just running XMBC?
[14:40] <faze> er, XBMC
[14:40] <Flamekebab> faze, Raspbmc
[14:40] <xetius> barbadillo: if it is both in windows and ubuntu, then it has to be something common
[14:40] <faze> ah
[14:40] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: both ubuntu and windows restarts at login? You sure you dont have faulty hdd?
[14:41] <dr_willis> i got 2 pi's running raspbmc
[14:41] <faze> is it able to use samba shares?
[14:41] <faze> i mount my samba shares in xbmc over the network
[14:41] <dr_willis> they can share to each other via dlna/upnp  no samba needed
[14:41] <ghostd0g> hey folks , i am having a hard time making a bootable usb stic with a minimal ubuntu iso .. i have used unetbootin multiple times used both the network installer iso and the mini 12.10 iso... both refuse to boot ... the full 12.10 install does however work ... is ther a method that i can replace the software on the full version .. to make it a minimal ?
[14:41] <barbadillo> DonoPatay, only the first boot, after the restart they both are good
[14:42] <ghostd0g> or is ther a method wher i can build my own bootable usb .. without flasing a image to it ?
[14:42] <xetius> barbadillo: could be anything connected.  Do you have USB devices connected that you can disconnect.  Could be memory... if you have more than one module plugged in, try only running on one.
[14:42] <Flamekebab> faze, it is connected to my TV and also shares the content it houses via samba so I can access it on my other machines. So whenever a HDD disconnects and reconnects (usually in a matter of a second or two) it seems the system registers it unplugging but doesn't remount it in its old location.
[14:42] <xetius> barbadillo: Only first boot?
[14:42] <faze> ah
[14:42] <faze> do you have a separate box hosting the content, dr_willis?
[14:42] <barbadillo> xetius, yes, just the first one
[14:42] <Flamekebab> I thought specifying UUID was supposed to solve this issue
[14:43] <barbadillo> I thought it may be some mobo problem that fixes by itself with a restart...?
[14:44] <faze> possibly the disk is mounted before it is finished releasing the old mount point?
[14:44] <xetius> barbadillo: weird.  When it reboots itself it is fine?  If you turn it off, then back on (yes, I know) is it fine still?
[14:44] <dr_willis> faze:  i have several ;)
[14:44] <faze> hehe
[14:45] <xetius> barbadillo: My thinking is it may be something inside warming up
[14:45] <barbadillo> xetius, no, only rebooting it is safe, if I turn off and then on, it reboots itself
[14:45] <dr_willis> faze:  i have 2 pi's running the xbmc distros shareing to each other and the rest of the house. and a pc ubuntu with ushares shareing to the pis and  lan
[14:45] <faze> Flamekebab: you could do a bash script or something if the drive is always mounted in the same folder each time
[14:45] <Flamekebab> faze, I'm trying to understand why it won't just remount where it's supposed to
[14:45] <xetius> barbadillo: I don't know what the difference would be between a hard boot and a soft boot (system reboot)
[14:46] <barbadillo> xetius, but after the reboot you can use it for hours with no prblems, so I don't think it's about heating
[14:46] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: In one of those restarts does Windows go into safe mode or show some selectio to go to safe mode?
[14:46] <xetius> barbadillo: but I would guess that there will lie your answer
[14:46] <faze> Flamekebab: i would imagine it tries to remount and the mount point it was using hasn't been released yet
[14:46] <faze> but i am uncertain
[14:46] <Flamekebab> faze, that seems right
[14:47] <guesssssst> hello
[14:47] <cristofer6891> when receiving a ip address from DHCP the ubuntu kernel crashes & the following error is displayed "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/drivers/pci/msi.c:316!"
[14:47] <barbadillo> DonoPatay, yes, after the spontaneous restart, windows asks for safe mode or normal mode
[14:47] <cristofer6891> has anyone seen this?
[14:48] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: most likely you have a faulty hardware in there. Try booting a live CD and find out if the same thing happens.
[14:48] <guesssssst> i have blackubuntu wich is based on 10.10 but is no longer supported so i dont have anymore repos
[14:48] <poz> insmod part_msdos
[14:48] <poz> insmod ntfs
[14:48] <poz> set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
[14:48] <poz> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 52E63FB2E63F9567
[14:48] <poz> chainloader +1
[14:48] <FloodBot1> poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <poz> does anyone know why that might not work?
[14:49] <guesssssst> what should i do?
[14:49] <guesssssst> any help?
[14:49] <canihojr> i, i try install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.04 but i have error...... first download .run oficial web... then turn off lighdm then execute script, but he return error: http://pastebin.com/gGSBEiqy any help??? sorry for my english! :P
[14:49] <notwist> guesssssst: why do you use an old version to begin with?
[14:49] <k1l> guesssssst: use a real ubuntu that got support
[14:50] <cgtdk> canihojr: You shouldn't download the driver from the nvidia website. You should install it from the Ubuntu repositories.
[14:50] <BlackPanx> one of my servers @ hetzner reported this problem: http://pastebin.com/Z6Ar1jdU does it mean it's cpu is faulty or it may be something else ?
[14:50] <canihojr> cgtdk, where is the packet?
[14:50] <guesssssst> but i dont know if i can install pen package on new release
[14:51] <cgtdk> canihojr: Software center → Edit menu → Edit sources → Additional drivers
[14:51] <xetius> barbadillo: Also possible that some setting in your bios may be wrong, and the soft reboot is setting and maintaining some state to get around this?  Tentative answer, but something to check (BIOS)
[14:51] <cgtdk> you should choose the one called nvidia-current
[14:51] <Flamekebab> faze, so any idea how I'd force the previous mount point to be released more quickly?
[14:51] <DonoPatay> canihojr: why use the official nvidia drivers? Just use the ones in the repository.
[14:52] <DonoPatay> canihojr : there no difference anyway.
[14:52] <canihojr> i try
[14:52] <canihojr> thanks
[14:53] <barbadillo> xetius, I think the same thing, but why after logging in? If you leave the computer standing on the login screen without logging in, it doesn't happen
[14:53] <faze> Flamekebab: i have no idea
[14:53] <Flamekebab> faze, thanks anyway :) I at least have a starting point for further research
[14:54] <faze> i would just write a script that is something like
[14:54] <shosin> any1  here
[14:54] <shosin> ??
[14:54] <cgtdk> shosin: plenty
[14:54] <faze> while True: time.sleep(1); if not os.path.exists(mount_point): make_a_symlink_to_mountpoint()
[14:54] <DonoPatay> we havin a rave party in here.
[14:55] <shosin> nyc :P
[14:55] <faze> you'd also want a case to update the symlink if the mountpoint changes again
[14:55] <xetius> barbadillo: Im guessing, that to get to the login screen in both Windows and Ubuntu, it only loads a minimal set of drivers that it requires to get to user login page.  Once you are logging in, in both systems, it will be initialising a myriad of devices, drivers and other pieces of software.  Any one of them could be accessing a faulty piece of hardware, or the thing which is making it reboot.
[14:57] <xetius> barbadillo: Not knowing what exactly happens during the logging in process, and exactly what the difference is between the hard and soft reboots, it is difficult to say.  Personally, I would try stripping the machine down to its basic components; The minimal items to actually run, and go from there.  If you have replacements for any pieces, then try those.
[14:58] <SolarisBoy> Flamekebab: you can execute a script to mount and umount (lazy) if needed on the fs using udev.rules
[14:58] <xetius> barbadillo: Also, running diagnostics on different things may give you information (Surface scan on HDD for example), but I don't know of a quick answer, i'm afraid.  Someone with more knowledge of Ubuntu may be able to point you to a system log file or debug mode, which may give you more information, but I don't have any quick answers
[14:58] <garfieldairlines> hi ! I have lighhtpd with postfixadmin and it makes me an 404 not found. I dpkg-reconfigured the thing to stick with lighhtpd but it still dosent work
[14:59] <barbadillo> xetius, ok thanks, I will also write to the mobo producer to see if they can help
[14:59] <garfieldairlines> does anyone has an idea what to do ?
[14:59] <poz> How can I find information on a partition? as in which the hard drive number it is located on is and what partition number it is?
[14:59] <xetius> barbadillo: they may have some diagnostics software that you can run
[14:59] <zantekk> gardar: missing symlink?
[14:59] <SolarisBoy> poz: fdisk
[14:59] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: : missing symlink?
[15:00] <garfieldairlines> zantekk: I don't have one yep, how can I do that ?
[15:00] <poz> I tryed fdisk -l but it only gives info on the hard drive running ubuntu
[15:01] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: I don't know the axact path, but I think lighthtpd's root is in /var/www/ where the pfa files are in /usr/share/postfixadmin ?
[15:01] <SolarisBoy> poz: you can point fdisk at a device as well but it should list all attached drives afaik
[15:01] <garfieldairlines> zantekk: exactly !
[15:01] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: in that case do smth like ln -s /usr/share/postfixadmin /var/www/postfixadmin
[15:01] <ModNStuff_> !IOT
[15:01] <ModNStuff_> !ot
[15:02] <ModNStuff_> !ot
[15:02] <garfieldairlines> aaaand it works !
[15:02] <vikas_openbees> okey so looks like i am missing any deep concept here ... I am calling a function in init() of Page.php .. it works fine on every page . but its not working on "security/login" page .. anyone have any idea ?
[15:02] <garfieldairlines> thanks a lot for your help, zantekk !
[15:02] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: perfect :)
[15:03] <zantekk> np ;)
[15:03] <ghostd0g> hey folks , i am having a hard time making a bootable usb stic with a minimal ubuntu iso .. i have used unetbootin multiple times used both the network installer iso and the mini 12.10 iso... both refuse to boot ... the full 12.10 install does however work ... is ther a method that i can replace the software on the full version .. to make it a minimal ? or is ther another  method i can build my own minimal usb stick
[15:05] <SolarisBoy> vim ghostd0g live-build
[15:07] <SolarisBoy> sorry the vim was terminal garbage - package named live-build customized livecd's, os, pxelinux, usb boot, etc
[15:07] <dr_willis> ghostd0g:  try just dd'ing the iso to the flash
[15:08] <ghostd0g> dr_willis : will try that next .. but if that fails ... is ther a methodto build it from scratch ?
[15:08] <dr_willis> ghostd0g:  dd is about as scratch asa it gets ;)
[15:08] <dr_willis> if dd fails theres deeper issues
[15:10] <ghostd0g> course the amount of time i spent on this its almost worth it to just install the full version and start pulling it apart lol
[15:12] <dr_willis> i find unetbootin problmatic
[15:12] <dr_willis> i tend to just use dd
[15:14] <poz> so should i put grub on to /dev/sdb (120034 mb; Kingston_SH103S3120G) OR /dev/sdb1 (1032 mb; /boot)
[15:14] <poz> ?
[15:15] <dr_willis> sdb if you are booting sdb
[15:16] <forzi> all halloy
[15:16] <dr_willis> rarely if ever would you want sdx#
[15:16] <poz> i am booting sdb
[15:16] <rikonor> hi quick question: on ubuntu what is the script langauge (i'm a noob). i know in some dist's it is bash but what is it in ubuntu
[15:16] <poz> i was just wondering becuase sdb1 is the /boot partition, i was not sure if grub goes on it or not
[15:17] <zantekk> rikonor: bash..
[15:18] <rikonor> k thanks
[15:18] <poz> i hope i never broke my machine
[15:21] <dr_willis> grub gors on the mbr of the disk. not the partition   normally
[15:22] <smart> Hi everyone
[15:23] <poz> anyone know why grub fails to boot windows 7? The error I get is... error: no suchg device: #############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[15:23] <poz> I have been trouble shooting this for hours
[15:23] <nicholas> how do i get the gnome 3.6 login screen?
[15:23] <dr_willis> you have 2 hds?
[15:23] <poz> yes
[15:24] <dr_willis> you have grub on sdb but not on sda?
[15:24] <poz> yes
[15:24] <canihojr> ohh, my driver nvidia-current no is update.... i need other more update than this.... for steam :/ howto can i update this? :/
[15:24] <dr_willis> tried telling the bios to boot sda?
[15:24] <dr_willis> that should boot to windows directly
[15:24] <poz> that works
[15:24] <poz> but i dont want to have to go into bios every time I want to get into windows 7
[15:25] <dr_willis> some bios's ive seen if you boot from a 2nd hd.. switches the drives around. so sdb would become sda and so forth
[15:26] <dr_willis> which can confuse things
[15:26] <davegarath> poz, dr_willis, that's interesting I have the same problem :) and enter in bios every time to switch order is very tedious
[15:26] <poz> there is a problem with my motherboard (I think) where my keyboard is activated in enough time to get into the bios only if I shut it off for a good 5-10 seconds. if it is a quick restart the keyboard does not activeate (to hit the del key - bios) until the log in screen
[15:26] <dr_willis> it sounds like the drives are switching and windows is getting confused
[15:27] <dr_willis> my mb has a key at boot to show the hds.. trivial to select what hd to boot
[15:27] <davegarath> dr_willis, I don't think this is a windows problem because I have the same problem with ubuntu on sdb
[15:27] <poz> dr_willis, this makes a bit of sense. I have a quick swap hd computer case and I change the order of the hds some times... I typically just change the boot order. but if I do that does it also change which drive is associated to which sd'letter'?
[15:28] <dr_willis> it could. thats why the use of uuids is standard these days
[15:29] <poz> the thing is, when ever I do fdisk or other commands, the windows is always sda (in ubuntu)
[15:29] <poz> maybe it is actually sdb?
[15:29] <poz> as far as i know, it has the correct uuid
[15:31] <poz> i have been giving google a million questions and have pretty much confirmed every line in the grub.cfg file and have tryed boot-repair
[15:32] <poz> it like grub can not see the other hd
[15:32] <poz> its*
[15:33] <poz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452519/
[15:33] <poz> that is what the boot-rapair gave me
[15:33] <poz> repair(
[15:33] <poz> *
[15:33] <Sorinan> My VT is being set, by some reason, to ISO-8859-1 whenever the system starts, and, also by some unknown reason, being set back to UTF-8 when I issue a "reset" in the terminal. How do I set this to UTF-8 always?
[15:36] <poz> sooo, any help?
[15:38] <fourq> I've joined the company Active Directory through a tool called Likewise AD Membership. It joined the domain just fine, but I cannot ping the box from any other machine.
[15:39] <Tecan> i have an encrypted home directory and the userdir apache2 mod wont work
[15:39] <Flamekebab> SolarisBoy, is there a guide on doing something like that I could find somewhere?
[15:39] <fourq> I don't know anything about LIkewise except that it claimed to join AD domains
[15:39] <cristofer6891> when receiving a ip address from DHCP the kernel crashes & the following error is displayed "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/drivers/pci/msi.c:316!" anyone know how to resolve this?
[15:40] <poz> lol Flamekebab
[15:41] <computer> priest walking down the street saw a hooker at a corner, he asked "what will you're mother think of what you're doing young lady!", she replies "she'll kill me for taking over her corner!".  sorry i was bored hehehe
[15:42] <DeadAidsGay> HAHAHAHA
[15:43] <mikro_> hi guys
[15:43] <notwist>  !ot | computer
[15:44] <computer> !ot | notwist
[15:44] <notwist> stop trolling
[15:44] <computer> i havent said a word since!
[15:45] <elementary-site8> Hi guys
[15:45] <elementary-site8> I need some help with a apparmor profile, anyone on??
[15:45] <Sorinan> My VT is being set, by some reason, to ISO-8859-1 whenever the system starts, and, also by some unknown reason, being set back to UTF-8 when I issue a "reset" in the terminal. How do I set this to UTF-8 always?
[15:45] <notwist> computer: sending me an ot-notification just because I sent you one is clearly trolling, do something useful with your time instead.
[15:45] <computer> Sorian, reinstall everything :)
[15:46] <computer> notwist, get over it!
[15:46] <computer> im done! dude
[15:46] <notwist> computer: stop giving useless advice like that, or I'll get an operator here
[15:46] <mikro_> does anyone know a text-based program that can view a picture (jpg, png,...) on terminal
[15:46] <Flamekebab> poz - what?
[15:46] <computer> useless to u maybe...
[15:46] <notwist> Sorinan: what do you mean by VT?
[15:47] <notwist> computer: useless to anyone, "reinstall everything" is not helping.
[15:47] <Touhou11> mikro_: The closest you can get is programs which convert pictures to ascii and show it on the terminal
[15:47] <Sorinan> notwist, Virtual Terminal
[15:47] <Touhou11> mikro_: Mplayer can ever play movies in ascii format
[15:47] <notwist> Sorinan: what program do you use, is it the default terminal program in Ubuntu?
[15:47] <computer> youre not sorian
[15:48] <mikro_> yes, ASCII, that is what i thought
[15:48] <mikro_> really, can mplayer do this?
[15:48] <llutz> michaelni: mplayer -vo aa  file
[15:48] <elementary-site8> any help with this I would be most grateful: ....  "Setting /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox to enforce mode. Warning from stdin (line 1): /sbin/apparmor_parser: cannot use or update cache, disable, or force-complain via stdin AppArmor parser error,  in stdin line 23: Could not open 'abstractions/ubuntu-browsers.d/firefox'"
[15:49] <llutz> err micro_^
[15:49] <Sorinan> notwist, by VT I mean the VT100 terminal that I get when the system starts (no X)
[15:49] <computer> vlc best video player ever
[15:49] <llutz> mikro_:  mplayer -vo aa  file
[15:49] <kullix> question: i love the Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS interface, and i want to use it until april 2013. but i was wondering, is it really worth getting the newest Ubuntu to get the best Ubuntu experience? i have a core 2 duo t400 with 4GB of ram.
[15:50] <mikro_> thanks llutz, i'll try it now
[15:50] <wting> kullix: no
[15:50] <computer> kullix, if everything works fine, why fix it?
[15:50] <Touhou11> kullix: If you're happy there's no reason you have to upgrade. Though it you want a new Ubuntu with a more "classic" interface, try Xubuntu - it's very similar to GNOME 2
[15:51] <computer> upgaring isnt always the best option
[15:51] <Sorinan> notwist, well, solution found: "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup", thanks ^^
[15:51] <computer> upgrading isn't always the best option*
[15:52] <elementary-site8> anyone know where the 'abstractions' folder is located at?
[15:52] <notwist> kullix: if you dont know why youre upgrading you shouldnt do it
[15:52] <notwist> elementary-site8: this channel is for ubuntu support
[15:53] <computer> notwist, i apologize.
[15:53] <kullix> oh ok thanks guys
[15:53] <kullix> i'll stick with 10.04
[15:53] <notwist> elementary-site8: if you're using elementary os thats a beta version
[15:53]  * computer was being a troll, i admit it
[15:53] <kullix> you guys like the 64-bit?
[15:54] <computer> 64bit yes!
[15:54] <lucido> hello, I haz problem with youtube. When ŰI maximize a video it shows in a small square in the middle of a black screen. Using proprietary nvidia drivers on amd64 ubuntu
[15:54] <llutz> elementary-site8: " /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/" ?
[15:54] <elementary-site8> notwist I know but it's pretty much ubuntu 12.04
[15:54] <computer> if your system is can handle 64bit go 4 it
[15:55] <wylde> elementary-site8, you could always 'sudo updatedb; locate abstraction'
[15:55] <computer_> mint ftwww
[15:55] <thunkee> lucido: try using adobe flash player
[15:55] <computer_> kidding hi
[15:55] <elementary-site8> sudo updateb; locate abstraction
[15:55] <computer_> how to install drivers from ati site ?
[15:55] <computer> :)
[15:55] <magez> heys, someone knows of a cheap 1155 ?ATX mobo that is for sure compatible with ubuntu 64?
[15:56] <notwist> Ignoring ALL from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>FYI computer
[15:56] <Gamer1990_> hello.
[15:56] <lucido> thunkee, but I am arent I, I istalled the restricted extraqs package
[15:56] <kullix> computer: well i put windows 7 64 bit on yesterday and it was so fast, just to test the speed (this is my first 64-bit cpu cuz money is tight), and im wondering, ubuntu 10.04 64-bit, hmmmm
[15:56] <Gamer1990_> i want to know how to do a distribution upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 beta
[15:56] <thunkee> lucido: default is gnash in 12.10 i think
[15:57] <notwist> Gamer1990_: clean install.
[15:57] <notwist> Gamer1990_: you don'
[15:57] <computer> kullix, want faster? go with xubuntu
[15:57] <notwist> t upgrade to a beta
[15:57] <elementary-site8> They used ubuntu to built their system but they probably changed the name of the folders that's why it can't find "in stdin line 23: Could not open 'abstractions/ubuntu-browsers.d/firefox'"
[15:57] <computer> notwist, well then...fuck u!
[15:57] <computer_> kkdeeeeeee
[15:57] <notwist> elementary-site8: it's irrelevant, this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[15:57] <Gamer1990_> watch your language
[15:57] <computer> notwist, good day sir!
[15:58] <DJones> computer: Drop the bad language, its not appreciated in the channel
[15:58] <Gamer1990_> is it even possible?
[15:58] <lucido> thunkee, nope, its the flashplugin-installer package that comes with the system at least when rextras are installed
[15:58] <computer> k, notwist, well then... screw u!
[15:58] <elementary-site8> I know notwist but I would like to know where the 'abstractions' folder is located in ubuntu... is that too hard?
[15:58] <llutz> !13.04 | Gamer1990_
[15:58] <kullix> computer: hmmmm, xubuntu 64-bit, ey?
[15:58] <computer> Djones, is that better?
[15:58] <notwist> I've already put computer on the ignore list but if he's abusive you should call an op with exlamation op command
[15:59] <thunkee> lucido: ok i had to install adobe version to get youtube right
[15:59] <notwist> !op computer is still in the channel as nick computer_ from open proxy
[16:00] <computer_> hum
[16:00] <computer_> ppl we have 2 computer
[16:00] <computer_> i'm not the computer who said injuries
[16:01] <allsystemsarego> Hi all, how can I get in touch with someone from the LoCo team in Zurich, Switzerland? I'd like to send someone their way, and I'd like to ask them to help install Ubuntu on the laptop of a relative of mine who lives there.
[16:01] <lucido> another question is, how can I stop youtube in html5 mode to exit from fullscreen igf I click on something on another twinview display? I can do that with normal flash if I edit some .so file (see http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html)but when a vid is playing in html5 something else is handling it
[16:02] <newroad> hullo all. I'm having an issue where it seems that sound through headphones seems to be playing without any bass. What could cause that?
[16:02] <Touhou11> newroad: Buy new headphones?
[16:02] <lucido> Newa, change headphones?
[16:02] <newroad> No matter what pair of headphone I use, there is absolutely 0 bass. It I use and equlizer to turn up the bass or emphasize the bass, there is either no difference or the sound disappears
[16:03] <newroad> the laptop itself has both speakers and a dedicated subwoofer
[16:03] <elementary-site8> well thanks for nothing I'm out you rude idiots... I guess telling me where the abstractions folder is at is 2 difficult
[16:03] <elementary-site8> if I didn't have this nick I bet you would
[16:03] <kaosfury> If you were asking about ubuntu, they would
[16:03] <lucido> wut
[16:04] <newroad> so my guess is that the laptop drivers aren't reassigning the subwoofer to the headphones
[16:04] <newroad> i've tried three different pairs.
[16:05] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys What is kworker?
[16:06] <newroad> Touhou11: thanks but believe me, ive tried that repeatedly.
[16:08] <kaosfury> dhanasekaran: Kworker is what controls the ACPI wakeup signals from the BIOS.
[16:08] <newroad> the laptop is a Sasung Series 7 Chronos NP700Z7C, with a JBL speaker system built in, and Optimus as well if that makes a difference (i don't think it would but just in case)
[16:08] <Touhou11> elementary-site8: Just grep/find to locate it
[16:08] <elementary-site8> OK OK OK I have one GREAT BIG FAVOR TO ASK:  can someone with ubuntu 12.04 please send me the 'firefox' test file located in /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/firefox
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> hi, i am trying to run a wimple windows program that a friend gave me to review math concepts. Al the program does is play mp4 videos located in a folder, but i believe it uses flash player for this
[16:08] <newroad> is there perhaps a better audio driver I could try?
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> i could just play then manually, but they all have weird filenames
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> it gives an error in the problem for macromadia director:script error, i believe because teir is no player installed
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> is this possibl to fix with wine?
[16:09] <Touhou11> Pinkamena_D: Have you tried just playing them with VLC?
[16:10] <Pinkamena_D> again, their are tones of small videos located in a folder with weird filenames, and the exe file opens a program where they have legible titles and a player
[16:10] <Pinkamena_D> i could play them manually, but it would be a pain
[16:10] <poz> so i dont know if anyone here remembers my booting problems but I have another detail. if I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[16:10] <poz> what is up with thaT?
[16:11] <Touhou11> Pinkamena_D: Drag them all into a VLC Playlist. If the video files have standard metadata, VLC should also be able to display legible titles
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> poz  if it's win8, UEFI needs a signature
[16:11] <Pinkamena_D> ok, i will try it
[16:12] <faze> does anyone know why using the experimental nvidia drivers has the unfortunate side effect of disabling my mouse and keyboard
[16:12] <poz> MonkeyDust: windows 7
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> ok
[16:12] <faze> in 12.04 desktop 64 bit
[16:12] <elementary-site8> CAN SOMEONE JUST COPY AND PASTE THE CONTENTS OF  /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/firefox so I can make that text file.... damn
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:13] <elementary-site8> no help uh
[16:13] <b14d3> You're still not asking about Ubuntu. There's a trend.
[16:13] <newroad> Hello, I'm having an issue where no matter what headset I plug in, I have 0 bass. ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[16:13] <poz> Ever hear of this problem before? I reinstalled everything to hopfully avoid it but it persists
[16:13] <faze> elementary-site8: i have no such file
[16:14] <b14d3> newroad: Did you try plugging something else into the jack that the headphones are plugged in?
[16:14] <faze> i had nowhere near this much trouble with 12.10, is 12.04 just a crap release or something?
[16:14] <faze> it's an LTS, it should be more stable than 12.10
[16:15] <elementary-site8> ok b14d3 can anyone please check if they have a file named 'firefox' in   /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/   in ubuntu 12.04 12.10 or 13.04
[16:15] <faze> a better question is, why are you missing that file
[16:16] <elementary-site8> because they used ubuntu and then removed stuff from ubuntu?
[16:16] <faze> sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:16] <dhanasekaran> I've started seeing something called "kworker" listed recently when I run top.
[16:16] <faze> or download the installer
[16:17] <poz> elementary-site8 I do not
[16:17] <newroad> b14d3, ould you give me an example?
[16:17] <poz> I do not have that file and I have firefox
[16:17] <newroad> plug what into the headphone jack? you mean speakers?
[16:17] <b14d3> newroad: Do you have a set of external speakers?
[16:17] <newroad> I don't :(
[16:17] <b14d3> newroad: Do you have another set of headphones?
[16:17] <newroad> but I have three different headsets
[16:18] <b14d3> newroad: Do the other headphones get bass from that jack?
[16:18] <newroad> all of them produce that same problem.
[16:18] <b14d3> newroad: Then how are you so sure it's a driver problem, and not a hardware problem with that jack
[16:18] <newroad> ah, because the bass is perfect if I reboot into Windows
[16:18] <joey8> elementary-site8→ hi there. i have come accros the same problem as you and i have the answer.
[16:19] <erncic> dhanasekaran, http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[16:19] <elementary-site8> joey8 what is the answer?
[16:19] <b14d3> newroad: Ah, that makes sense, and is also important information.
[16:20] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[16:20] <cazecaceazceaz> hi
[16:21] <joey8> elementary-site8→ i was just about to give it to you but then i realised that you think i am a rude idiot so... sorry about that.... you can go suck a lemon :¬)
[16:21]  * joey8 laughs
[16:21] <poz> :( joey8 you should always help
[16:21] <cazecaceazceaz> hi ppl
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> i was banned
[16:22] <poz> why?
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> coz error
[16:22] <poz> or
[16:22] <poz> oh*
[16:22] <b14d3> poz: I agree, but he's not wrong.
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> a troll was here who was 'computer'
[16:22] <poz> lol oh
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> and i was 'computer'
[16:22] <poz> lol
[16:22] <poz> I just wish some one could help me with my boot problem
[16:23] <tbrtrb> dammit
[16:24] <tbrtrb> i wanted to say 'computer_'
[16:24] <tbrtrb> NOT COMPUTER
[16:24] <tbrtrb> stop ban me plz, i was COMPUTER_ not COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:25] <b14d3> Flooding about who you aren't isn't helping :P
[16:25] <tbrtrb> so I was not the troll, sorry i don't know where to msg
[16:25] <DJones> tbrtrb: Please join #ubuntu-ops to resolve the ban as you were asked to do in the ban message
[16:25] <forzi> hay krey
[16:26] <elementary-site8> actually all I had to do was copy and paste ubuntu file on mine and it worked
[16:26] <krey_> forzi: o/
[16:26] <elementary-site8> but now it asks for another one :(
[16:26] <forzi> who
[16:26] <elementary-site8> stdin line 155: Could not open 'local/usr.bin.firefox'
[16:26] <Kion1> is there an easy way to get rid of all the past kernels on my system?
[16:26] <bdi_> hmmm ok...i have added this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452657/ to the bottom of /etc/ssh/ssh_config. I have created a group called sftp, and i have a user called joe. /home/joe exists, and i executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452668/ However when i try to connect i get connection refused...When i try logging in with root credentials it works fine. Am i missing something?
[16:28] <forzi> krey I live in PMR, Wthont you?
[16:29] <Karoliina_> Question: I screwed up an LXDE installation and it broke Unity. Would backing up and reinstalling, then restoring from the backup solve the problem?
[16:29] <poz> if you know what you are doing in terms of dual boot on multiply hard drives in grub, can you pm me?
[16:30] <dcherniv> bdi_, well yea
[16:30] <dcherniv> bdi_, you set the shell to /bin/false
[16:30] <forzi> poz set not meltiple.
[16:30] <poz> pardon?
[16:31] <bdi_> dcherniv, yeah, but i should still be able to connect to sftp according to this tutorial: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229
[16:31] <poz> sure, a set of hard drives (only 2 actually) lol
[16:31] <elementary-site8> AHAHHAHAHA I GOT IT TO WORK
[16:32] <elementary-site8> MY FIREFOX NOW HAS APPARMOR
[16:32] <poz> what is apparmor?
[16:32] <elementary-site8> SUCK IT YOU UBUNTU FAGS ...  ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[16:34] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[16:34] <dcherniv> bdi_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452657/ this added to sshd_config not ssh_config correct?
[16:34] <joey8> !op
[16:34] <Jester_> Hi All
[16:35] <IdleOne> joey8: ?
[16:35] <joey8> IdleOne→ bad bad language here
[16:35] <DJones> joey8: He's left the channel already
[16:35] <forzi> pardon
[16:35] <joey8> IdleOne→ he's gone thanx anyway
[16:35] <poz> looking for someone who has experience with grub and 2 hard drives
[16:35] <Abhijit> IdleOne, the person joey8 complaining about has already left the channel.
[16:35] <IdleOne> ok, thank you.
[16:36] <Abhijit> poz, just ask away the question with details.
[16:36] <poz> Abhijit, I have before, there are a lot of details...
[16:37] <poz> basically I get this when I try to load windows 7 from grub : error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[16:37] <forzi> give mi vk hacker plise/
[16:37] <Abhijit> poz, are you using UEFI?
[16:38] <poz> what is UEFI?
[16:38] <Abhijit> that means you are not using it!
[16:38] <Abhijit> poz, do you have dual boot? which are the os you are having in your hdd? how many hdd? which os on which hdd?
[16:39] <FlowRiser> How do i install a .tar.gz file in ubuntu ?
[16:39] <Abhijit> FlowRiser, you dont. you first extract it and then follow the instruction to compile and insatll it
[16:39] <FlowRiser> i see, thanks
[16:39] <Abhijit> FlowRiser, to extract it, in the terminal do, tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[16:39] <forzi> tar and gz thise arhive
[16:40] <poz> I have dual boot (atleast I think i do). I have win 7 on one hd (sda) and ubuntu on another hd (sdb)
[16:40] <poz> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[16:40] <KI4RO> flowr
[16:40] <Abhijit> poz, thats not a dual boot. both os on different hdd! does your grub shows windows 7 entry ?
[16:41] <KI4RO> FlowRiser, You're better off trying to find a .deb file
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> poz  type sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit and paste the url here
[16:41] <percent__> I am wanting to install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 13" can I just install it off the live disk without boot camp if I plan to wipe the entire HD?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> !mac | percent__ read this first
[16:43] <poz> Abhijit, it does. at first it just showed one windows 7 entry. after i tryed boot-repair, it shows 2 entrys (one for each partition sda1 and sda2). this is the pastebin from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452519/
[16:44] <Abhijit> poz, whats sdc?
[16:44] <TomyLaptop> hi
[16:44] <Abhijit> poz, i think sda and sdb are you two main hdd. sda has windows 7 and sdb has ubuntu. right?
[16:44] <poz> this is fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/XdL3hZxj
[16:44] <Abhijit> then what is that sdc?
[16:44] <TomyLaptop> how do i regenerate a package's default configuration files?
[16:45] <percent__> MonkeyDust: I have read through a lot of that, but can't find anything specific about wiping the HD and having only ubuntu. Most everything explains how to Dual boot.
[16:45] <poz> sdc and sdd are just storage
[16:45] <poz> sda (win 7) and sdb (ubuntu) are my main ssd's with the os's on them
[16:48] <poz> it is strange. when I follow this order of actions this is what happens: I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue... SO somthing happens when I boot into ubuntu
[16:49] <poz> hummm
[16:49] <poz> looking at the fdisk I can see that sda is ubuntu and sdb is windows 7
[16:49] <poz> This was not true an hour ago
[16:49] <poz> I was swapping the hard drives trying to debug this
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> poz  normally, windows sits on sda1
[16:50] <poz> my computer case lets me swap hard drives very easily
[16:51] <poz> I can see that the hard drives are all mixed up
[16:52] <melfy> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches  ==> permission denied as root ??
[16:52] <poz> I will be right back. I am going to correct the hard drive problem
[16:53] <llutz> melfy: using sudo?
[16:53] <Pici> melfy: use: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[16:54] <ashp> Anyone here know where /etc/init.d/ scripts obtain $PIDFILE from?  Jenkins calls to $PIDFILE all the time but doesn't have it defined anywhere.
[16:54] <TomyLaptop> http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X I get this error when installing nvidia-current-updates. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ this is the log file mentioned.
[16:54] <ashp> I'm baffled by this because it works sometimes then randomly breaks for me.
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)
[16:55] <Sietsem> TomyLaptop, do you have the kernel headers installed?
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> i think so
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> which package would that be?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> TomyLaptop  what ubuntu version?
[16:56] <TomyLaptop> linux-headers-3.2.0-35 is installed
[16:56] <TomyLaptop> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> TomyLaptop  12.04 has 3.2, not 3.5
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> ok, correct
[16:57] <llutz> ashp: usually the PIDFILE is defined at the start of init-scripts, see " (grep -l PIDFILE) /etc/init.d/skeleton"
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> i misread
[16:57] <poz> Okay, here is my new fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/UpAf6LCB
[16:57] <tomreyn> ashp: it should be defined in the init scripts header, usually somewhere below /var/run/
[16:57] <poz> sda is windows 7 and sdb is ubuntu
[16:58] <poz> I also double checked to see if the following still occurs: I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue... SO somthing happens when I boot into ubuntu
[16:58] <poz> it does
[16:58] <poz> sorry about the confusion before
[16:58] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, I have a folder which contains like 1800 files (mostly PDFs books) and the problem is that folder takes time to load, like 6 to 7 seconds whenever I open it
[16:59] <hrolf> is there anything that I can do?
[16:59] <hrolf> though when I do ls it is very fast
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  maybe because 1800 icons loading need some time
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I don't want icons, how do I hide them?
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I have decreased the size very small still takes time
[17:00] <tomreyn> hrolf: the classic approach to deal with this is to have create more subdirectroeis, such as creating one subdirectory for every first character and move the matching files into it.
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  View > Compact
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I have already selected Compact
[17:00] <hrolf> view
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  what do you mean by hiding icons?
[17:01] <hrolf> tomreyn: Isn't there any other way to disable icons for that particular folder?
[17:01] <tomreyn> hrolf: there are also some file system options which could improve handling many smaller files  in the same directory (but i would need to look them up, too)
[17:01] <poz> lol he calls them "pdfs" :P
[17:01] <poz> how cute
[17:02] <tomreyn> hrolf: depends on your file browser, i guess
[17:02] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: You said it could be due the loading icons, so I asked if there is any way I can hide the icons
[17:02] <hrolf> poz: They are not illegal books (if that's why you meant).
[17:02] <Guest25882> i have the source code for ios 6 anyone intrested ?
[17:02] <joggers> does anyone here know how to install VM with a template i have?
[17:03] <joggers> does anyone here know how to (re)install VM with a template i have?
[17:03] <hrolf> tomreyn: File browser?
[17:03] <joggers> ubuntu 12.10
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  no, in the GUI it's always with icons
[17:03] <tomreyn> hrolf: fwiw, i didn't get poz's comment either
[17:03] <nopz> Hi there, I have an ubuntu machine inside a VirtualMachine, when I run iotop nothing gets updated
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  or try xfce's file manager, i forget the name
[17:04] <poz> hrolf, I did not mean that. I am sure they are pdfs, but was just insinuating that they are of adult material (photos, vids, ect...)
[17:04] <Guest25882> full ios 6 source code here
[17:04] <tomreyn> hrolf: a file browser is like a web browser, but for files / directories
[17:04] <melancholie> does "working every two weeks" mean a week on and a week off?
[17:04] <hrolf> tomreyn: What else file browsers are there available for Ubuntu?
[17:04] <tomreyn> MonkeyDust: thunar
[17:04] <TomyLaptop> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64) http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> !info pcmanfm | hrolf
[17:05] <TomyLaptop> can someone tell me how to solve that?
[17:05] <dcherniv> hrolf, pcmanfm
[17:05] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: Would it affect my system? Like do I have to remove the current one? Or can we keep it side-by-side?
[17:05] <dcherniv> hrolf, great lightweight multi-tabbed file manager
[17:06] <tomreyn> hrolf: i can think of neutilus, thunar out of the box. i think kde uses the same as its web browser, konqueror. not sure about others, i mostly use a terminal for file operations.
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  side by side, just select the other as default
[17:06] <Abhijit> poz, do one thing. take the question on askubuntu
[17:06] <TomyLobo> tomreyn dolphin, nautilus, thunar... what's it with the maritime animals?
[17:07] <poz> okay Abhijit. Will do
[17:07] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I see. Let me try (downloading).
[17:07] <dcherniv> TomyLaptop, did you install kernel-headers?
[17:07] <poz> Thanks for the advice
[17:07] <TomyLobo> dcherniv as a package name? no
[17:08] <TomyLobo> i have linux-headers-3.2.0-35 though
[17:08] <hrolf> Another question, how in Linux/Ubuntu you open the terminal in a specific dir (sort of like a shortcut) without cd'ing to that dir.
[17:08] <tomreyn> TomyLobo: dunno, i didn't invent those names. maybe the idea is that they deal with what's under the surface.
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  in synaptic, look for nautilus scripts
[17:09] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, linux-headers-3.2.0-35 installed in package manager?
[17:09] <poz> I think the built in file manager is better then pcmanfm
[17:10] <dcherniv> nothing is better than pcmanfm, hands down the best file manager on linux
[17:10] <poz> why?
[17:10] <TomyLobo> dcherniv i A   linux-headers-3.2.0-35 3.2.0-35.55 i A   linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic 3.2.0-35.55
[17:10] <poz> i find the default to be just as fast
[17:11] <dcherniv> poz, magnitudes faster and lighter than anything else out there while maintaining the same feature parity
[17:11] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm looks right, what does uname -a say?
[17:11] <TomyLobo> Linux ideenpad 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:12] <poz> dcherniv, maybe I do not notice a difference because my machine is to fast already?
[17:13] <tomreyn> hrolf: depends on the terminal emulator you use. For gnome-temrinal it's: gnome-terminal --working-directory=/tmp --window
[17:14] <TomyLobo> dcherniv Linux ideenpad 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:15] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm i dunno should work
[17:15] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, try installing full sources, though that shouldnt be needed
[17:15] <poz> Any  recommendations for download managers?
[17:15] <dcherniv> poz, its possible
[17:17] <tomreyn> poz: i've rarely needed one, but there is the "downthemall" extension for firefox, pyload, jdownloader, aria2
[17:18] <BluesKaj> odd, I have no grub menu text after upgrading the latest kernel , only a grey-brown blank page with no text ...any others encountered this ?
[17:19] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: i haven'T, maybe your grub defaults were changed?
[17:19] <faze> is there another distro that is pretty much identical to 12.04
[17:19] <poz> I guess jdownloader will do. I like fdm in windows, nice and simple
[17:19] <faze> i am encountering horrible issues with 12.04
[17:20] <faze> my keyboard and mouse refuse to work half the time, i get some weird usb error
[17:20] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, I forgot to mention I get the menu if I hold the shiftkey down right after the bios page
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> faze  other distro's have adopted unity, but don't know which
[17:20] <faze> 10.04 was a solid release, but 12.04 desktop is literal trash from what i've seen
[17:20] <TomyLobo> dcherniv installed linux-source-3.2.0 (3.2.0-35.55), same error
[17:20] <faze> i just want something to run linux steam
[17:21] <faze> 12.04 lts is their recommended version, but it is buggy as hell
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> faze  ask in #linux, we cannot promote other distro's here
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm
[17:21] <TomyLobo> installed kernel-package too, for good measure
[17:21] <faze> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, im lost here
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, you have build-essential installed?
[17:21] <faze> well, has anyone else experienced keyboard and mice not working in 12.04 lts?
[17:21] <numberto> Hi guys. I am on ubuntu 12.10 and I have issue which I don't know how to troubleshoot. On my keyboard the up and down arrows have "page up" and "page down" functions at the same time (if fn button is pressed). When I press Fn+down arrow  page goes down one page, but when i press Fn+up arrow, nothin happens.  Fixed by using an adapter to use ps2.
[17:26] <faze> it worked for a while, and then i installed the drivers required by the steam beta client
[17:27] <faze> then i rebooted and the issue happened again
[17:27] <faze> and now on a clean install they won't work
[17:27] <faze> maybe i should just go back to 12.10
[17:27] <tomreyn> tboat: you could also put it this way: that's the limitation you buy when buying hardware form a vompany which doesn't make specs available and does not spend money on developing drivers for linux (but other operating systems).
[17:27] <morsnowski> hmm, odd
[17:27] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, i dont know man
[17:27] <TomyLobo> dcherniv yeah it's this optimus crap
[17:28] <tboat> faze: did you roll back to 12.04 because of mouse issue or something else?
[17:28] <faze> something else
[17:28] <morsnowski> faze, could you try to run 12.04 from a live cd or usb stick ?
[17:28] <faze> more for the long term support
[17:28] <faze> the 12.04 graphical installer didn't work
[17:28] <faze> i had to use mini.iso and a ps/2 keyboard
[17:28] <faze> my usb keyboard refused to work in the text installer as well, which i thought was weird
[17:29] <TomyLobo> dcherniv i'm using bumblebee too
[17:29] <morsnowski> hmm i suggest you get a fresh 12.04 iso, check the hashs and try again
[17:29] <tboat> well if the graphical installer didnt work, then you had a bad image.
[17:30] <faze> tboat: the graphical installer started up fine, but my mouse and keyboard didnt work
[17:30] <faze> they work in windows
[17:30] <tboat> well yeah, its windows, thats why it costs money
[17:30] <faze> haha
[17:31] <tboat> you said its a g5 gamer mouse? what kind of keyboard is it?
[17:31] <faze> i just thought it was a weird problem. i'll try a fresh iso and i'll md5sum it
[17:31] <faze> just some generic "media keyboard"
[17:31] <OerHeks> faze maybe it is a bios setting > usb legacy support
[17:31] <tboat> lenovo, dell, hp, or just a keyboard with no labels on it?
[17:31] <faze> OerHeks: why would 12.04 not work and 12.10 work?
[17:32] <tboat> faze 12.10 is newer...
[17:32] <faze> tboat: it's a dynex
[17:32] <faze> tboat: i used this mouse on 10.04
[17:32] <faze> that is older
[17:33] <tboat> and more stable, i have to agree with Oer, probably BIOS>usb Legacy support
[17:33] <faze> i will check my bios settings
[17:33] <shmoove> i recently installed ubuntu 12.04 and tried removing unity and unity2d. however, when I restart and go into lightdm, ubuntu 2d is still an option. How do I get rid of this?
[17:34] <OerHeks> !nounity
[17:34] <newroad> Hello, I'm having an issue where no matter what headset I plug in, I have 0 bass. ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[17:34] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[17:35] <Catbuntu> Hi
[17:35] <tboat> faze if it isnt bios, find another keyboard/mouse and see if they give you the same problems
[17:36] <newroad> Additionally, the bass works perfectly in Windows
[17:36] <MangoBoy> Hi! All well to All here!!
[17:36] <faze> tboat: sounds good. i tried a ps/2 keyboard, but not different usb devices
[17:37] <faze> tboat: another reason for the 12.04 rollback - that amazon stuff creeped me out
[17:37] <tboat> faze: yeah thats why I use Mint
[17:37] <faze> when i search my computer for 'terminal', i don't need movies that have scenes in airport terminals
[17:37] <tboat> lol
[17:38] <faze> does mint use ubuntu as an upstream?
[17:38] <OerHeks> you can disable that plugin, what's the fuzz anyway?
[17:39] <faze> OerHeks: oh, i did. it was just kind of creepy the first time it happened is all.
[17:39] <faze> i understand why canonical did it and i don't think they're trying to steal my secrets
[17:40] <tboat> i just think it is now "ad-source" rather than open source
[17:40] <OerHeks> faze you make me smile, you are one of the few who do understand the shopping lens.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> what's the factoid for that lens, again?
[17:42] <DJones> !adlens | MonkeyDust
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> tnx
[17:44] <TomyLobo> this thing isnt in my kde, right?
[17:45] <MangoBoy> I gonna ask u As Good as I Can .. I'm try to Install Fancontrol to get a Little Quiet !! I have run PWMconfig, Found the fan, set the Values.. Save:D!  But No.. FanControl still Complains over MissinG Conf file in /etc/fancontrol ...
[17:46] <tomreyn> TomyLobo: it's part of unity, so no. xubuntu / kubuntu / lubuntu won't have it
[17:46] <TomyLobo> awesome
[17:46] <TomyLobo> one more item to scoff at unity users about :)
[17:47] <varikonniemi> when ubuntu asks for the password for a device one can choose from "forget immediately, forget on boot, never forget"
[17:47] <MangoBoy> 11.4
[17:47] <varikonniemi> how can this be controlled later if i want to change never forget to something else?
[17:47] <XRS1> i turned on internet connection sharing and borked the internet. nothing works except IRC (i cant even ping!)
[17:47] <TomyLobo> MangoBoy why on earth?
[17:48] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: are you saying you are using Ubuntu 11.04?
[17:48] <tomreyn> This went end-of-life on October 28, 2012. You should upgrade now.
[17:49] <MangoBoy> TomyLobo, Well Dont You ask Me.. I thought PWMconfig saveD a Config.. but Maybe Another??
[17:49] <XRS1> 12.04 is much better
[17:49] <MangoBoy> Yes!!
[17:50] <MangoBoy>  11.04
[17:50] <tboat> any server people here, #ubuntu-server is just 300 lurkers...
[17:50] <MangoBoy> It isn't even a Folder..!
[17:50] <XRS1> im limited to just apache server
[17:51] <MangoBoy> tomreyn,  It isn't even a Folder..!
[17:51] <tboat> MangoBoy: probably because you attempted to install newer software on an older OS...
[17:51] <milamber> tboat: you can ask, if we can we'll help
[17:51] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: so you have unpatched security holes and they get more every day. plus bugs are no longer fixed. you really should upgrade.
[17:51] <tboat> samba is broken, related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/988509. purged my samba install, reinstalled, can not access my shared folders on my LAN
[17:52] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: upgrading *may* also solve the fan issue.
[17:52] <tboat> the bug says "fixed", however no fix is stated
[17:52] <TomyLobo> MangoBoy i meant why on earth are you using 11.04?
[17:53] <anonymous__> wthot my login
[17:53] <XRS1> do you not see the shares or do you get the failed to download from the server? what happens?
[17:53] <MangoBoy> TomyLobo, tomreyn  Im a little scared to Do That :\ lots of WoorK
[17:53] <TomyLobo> i would be scared to operate an OS without support
[17:53] <MangoBoy> Lots of tools to reinstall
[17:53] <tboat> it doesnt show up when i browse my network, and if i try to connect directly, it can not do so.  I can ssh in and do SFTP.
[17:54] <anonymous__> wthot hack twitter
[17:54] <XRS1> MangoBoy,   Redo Backup is a very simple to use app that will clone your drive just in case anything goes wrong. once you have a backup, you can break it all you want  :P
[17:54] <milamber> tboat: the samba server is also on the box with the ssh and the sftp?
[17:54] <tboat> milamber: yes
[17:55] <tboat> it was working fine up until the most recent kernel update, that forced samba4 to install, which broke it initially.  so i purged samba, installed samba3, but now it doesnt work
[17:55] <anonymous__> give me program wthot cost
[17:55] <MangoBoy> To Next LTS in ..suchacase.. but im in midle of other projeCt and Want a QuieT Fan.. Just..!
[17:55] <faze> tboat: does the samba service start?
[17:56] <tomreyn> tboat: how does samba 3 "not work" now?
[17:56] <XRS1> quiet fan?   wel ur out of luck there. mine hasnt shut up since i upgraded
[17:57] <MangoBoy> But Do Anyone Know What Everybody Knows..???
[17:57] <tboat> tomreyn: my server doesnt appear on my network like it used to...and if i type "samba" into terminal, it says i need to isntall "samba4", but samba4 is broken.  When I do "apt-get install samba" it says samba is already installed...
[17:57] <tomreyn> tboat: which ubuntu release are you on? 12.10?
[17:57] <faze> tboat: what does `smbd --version` give you
[17:58] <tboat> tomreyn: 12.04 server, hardware not supported by 12.10
[17:58] <MangoBoy> But if i just find the file pwm1 under hwmon.. i can Send it Number Direct--> Ass a Start!!
[17:58] <XRS1> tboat,  have you enabled proposed updates?   my samba runs great
[17:58] <tboat> version 3.6.3
[17:58] <xentris> When I choose Ubuntu 12.10 from the website, the download files is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, is this the correct version?
[17:58] <faze> hmm
[17:58] <faze> what about
[17:59] <faze> service smbd status
[17:59] <Transhumanist> No.
[17:59] <faze> and
[17:59] <faze> service nmbd status
[17:59] <tboat> smbd start/running, process 725
[17:59] <xentris> Why does it link to 12.04.1 when selecting 12.10?
[17:59] <Transhumanist> xentris: select a 64-bit version just as a test and confirm it is 12.10
[17:59] <faze> tboat: is nmdb running?
[17:59] <XRS1> because 12.10 isnot good. 1210.1 is
[17:59] <tboat> XRS1 I don't believe I have proposed updates enabled
[17:59] <faze> er, nmbd
[17:59] <Transhumanist> XRS1: re-read his line
[17:59] <AlienPenguin> hi all, i have a really strange issue, on ubuntu 12.04 a software of mine does not link some libraries that are actually passed on the command line, the result is a shared library
[17:59] <tboat> nmbd start/running, process 881
[17:59] <XRS1> tboat,  try it. im running a pre-release
[17:59] <faze> weird
[18:00] <xentris> even 64 bit asks me to download ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[18:00] <AlienPenguin> on other  distribution the same code links the missing libraries
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> ...................
[18:00] <tboat> well that would install samba4 right?
[18:00] <xentris> is something wrong with the site?
[18:00] <Transhumanist> I will try myself and check, xentris
[18:00] <tboat> where is the sources file located again?
[18:00] <AlienPenguin> does anyone have some hints?
[18:00] <MangoBoy> But Does anyone Know Where pwmconfig saves its config files?
[18:00] <tboat> /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:00] <user82> hi. how can i find out the "internal machine identification". like what the computers name is from linux'es point of view? (ie asus ul30vt)
[18:01] <XRS1> yeah its samba4.   you could also manually download an older backdated version from the repo
[18:01] <xentris> only does this for Firefox
[18:01] <faze> tboat: run `testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf`
[18:01] <tomreyn> xentris: you may need to enable javascript. i think they failed to add a <noscript> section there
[18:01] <Transhumanist> xentris: then that's a Firefox cache problem
[18:01] <xentris> yeah could be
[18:01] <Transhumanist> clear your cache, restart, then reload the page
[18:01] <xentris> It's a poorly done javascript problem not Firefox
[18:01] <Transhumanist> anyway
[18:01] <Transhumanist> here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:02] <tboat> faze: everything seems to check out after running that
[18:02] <Transhumanist> I choose the torrent downloads personally
[18:02] <Transhumanist> they're faster and don't use Canonical's bandwidth
[18:02] <tboat> faze: yes that fixed it!!! thank you!!
[18:02] <faze> sweet, what did?
[18:02] <tboat> testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:02] <xentris> bittorrent is blocked atm
[18:02] <MangoBoy> Or where hardware sensors have their Representations..
[18:02] <faze> awesome
[18:02] <Transhumanist> that's fine - that link has the other download links, too
[18:02] <tomreyn> xentris: i run into the same effect as you do with javascript disabled.
[18:03] <Transhumanist> or not
[18:03] <MangoBoy> Or how to get to know!
[18:03] <Transhumanist> sorry, this one: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[18:03] <faze> tboat: i use `testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf.master > /etc/samba/smb.conf` to write a smb.conf file
[18:03] <XRS1> there it is
[18:03] <Transhumanist> ah, but that is 12.10 not 12.10.1 sorry
[18:03] <faze> it makes sure your smb.conf is legit then outputs a good version to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:04] <xentris> Should I grab 12.10 or 12.10.1?
[18:04] <faze> i support a samba server over vpn (gross)
[18:04] <tomreyn> xentris: the latter
[18:04] <Transhumanist> I think I have 12.10. But it sounds like 12.10.1 is stable so since it's newer I'd grab that if you can
[18:04] <xangua> Transhumanist: xentris there is no 12.10.1
[18:04] <xentris> thats what I thought
[18:05] <Transhumanist> 12.10 it is!
[18:05] <xentris> I don't see 12.10.1 anyways
[18:05] <xangua> you sure like to turn around a lot :)
[18:05] <Transhumanist> um, I am also getting directed to 12.04.1 on the downloads page
[18:05] <Transhumanist> Canonical's site is broken
[18:05] <tortik> Guys, how to dstribute my app if I write it with self-compiled libraries and what way used in practice with libraries: compile last available version or use ready from repos?
[18:05] <xentris> yes
[18:05] <Transhumanist> Use this link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[18:05] <xangua> Transhumanist: not for me
[18:06] <tboat> Transhumanist: just make sure to check hardware compatibility, killed two installs in the last month because I didnt check to see that my hardware wasnt supported in 12.10 anymore
[18:06] <xentris> They need to fix the javascript
[18:06] <tboat> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> tortik  post it on on a blog or so, then hope someone picks it up
[18:07] <xangua> xentris: the download button works as expected here :)
[18:07] <tboat> tortik either SVN or github
[18:08] <xentris> which browser?
[18:08] <tortik> tboat: what do you mean by cvs?
[18:09] <Petaz> at what time is the end of the world scheduled to air?
[18:09] <tortik> tboat: how can they help me
[18:09] <xangua> !ot | Petaz
[18:10] <milamber> tortik: the way to "distribute" an app in the debian (ubuntu) family of gnu/linux is to create a deb package. you can google: create deb package for more info
[18:10] <Petaz> lol no one uses debs anymore
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> tortik  it is also common to create a ppa
[18:10] <Petaz> its ppas
[18:11] <XRS1> its like if the whole world freaked out because they flipped the calendar page over from december and there was nothing after
[18:11] <tortik> milamber: but what if I use the last available compiled libs from source? Should I put them in the package too if thy are not in repos yet?
[18:11] <tboat> tortik SVN and git are project management/distribution methods.  You can maintain parts of a package and have a central hub for users to pull the installs down, when you update, they get updates.  Or you can create a deb and a PPA repo
[18:11] <Petaz> Merry end of the world :-) err... i meant Christmas
[18:12] <milamber> tortik: yes, but for ease of maintenance i would recommend you try and compile against latest stable versions available in the repos (if you are targeting ubuntu specifically)
[18:12] <TomyLobo> [19:10:42] <Petaz> lol no one uses debs anymore
[18:12] <TomyLobo> what do you download from a ppa?
[18:12] <tboat> Petaz too bad half the world is already on tomorrow, looks like we make it
[18:13] <TomyLobo> tboat wasnt 21st the last day of the world? :)
[18:13] <quantalrabbit> Is there a ubuntu channel geared more towards ubuntu developers.  I have a question regarding patching package source and rebuilding.
[18:13] <tortik> milamber:  that was what I need to be read as answer. Thanks
[18:13] <milamber> quantalrabbit: ubuntu-devs
[18:14] <tboat> TomyLobo I thought it was supposed to end at the start of the 21st?
[18:14] <TomyLobo> oh?
[18:14] <TomyLobo> well, how about mayan time then?
[18:14] <capitaninsaneoh> Hi, I installed Steam deb package and now I'm gettin an error ---GPG error: http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F24AEA9FB05498B7
[18:14] <_Trullo> tomorrow all hell breaks loose
[18:14] <TomyLobo> still 20th there
[18:15] <daniel> join /ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <tboat> still the 20th for me as well
[18:15] <playaspec> Hi all. I have a server running 12.04 x64 and am trying to update Amanda using packages from the Amanda site as the repo packages are behind.
[18:15] <Guest47153> join /ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <tboat> if i see anyone tomorrow acting a fool or crazy, im going to smack them
[18:15] <Guest47153> join /#ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <milamber> quantalrabbit: sorry, ubuntu-devel
[18:15] <TomyLobo> daniel Guest47153 it's /join #channelname
[18:15] <tomreyn> Guest47153: try /join #ubuntu-uds
[18:16] <xangua> !gpgerr | capitaninsaneoh
[18:16] <playaspec> The server package says it requires xinetd, but when I go to install it, it warns that xinetd conflicts with 'inet-superserver'
[18:16] <quantalrabbit> milamber: thanks!
[18:17] <poz> How do I know if i need a swap partition?
[18:17] <tomreyn> capitaninsaneoh: you didn't import the GPG key, yet. Re-read the instructions page you found this repository on
[18:17] <tboat> do you have less than 1 GB of RAM?
[18:17] <playaspec> I'mm all for removing  inet-superserver and switching to xinetd, but am looking for any gotchas before I proceed.
[18:17] <TomyLobo> playaspec then your package is incompatible
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> poz  have it at hand, you can easily disable it
[18:17] <poz> i have 16 gb ram
[18:17] <tboat> poz no need then
[18:17] <XRS1> if you have less than 2 gigs of ram, you need swqap. otherwise forget swap alltogether
[18:17] <playaspec> TomyLobo: How so?
[18:18] <TomyLobo> was it made for your ubuntu version?
[18:18] <poz> okay great. so can I use gpart to get rid of it and add it to an additional 65 gb of unallocated free space?
[18:18] <capitaninsaneoh> tomreyn, there isn't a key listed just a deb
[18:18] <XRS1> unless your running an MRI machine or some server or something that exceeds 16GB RAM
[18:18] <playaspec> Was which made for my version? Amanda, xinetd?
[18:18] <poz> nope
[18:18] <InspectorCluseau> you can always make a swap file
[18:18] <tomreyn> capitaninsaneoh: tell its author, and try xangua / ubottu 's approach
[18:19] <XRS1> yeah get that space back u dont need swap
[18:19] <TomyLobo> playaspec the amanda packages you're trying to install
[18:19] <poz> can someone run me through how to reformat swap and add it to 65gb of unallocated space?
[18:19] <playaspec> Yes. Ubuntu-12.04, both client and server
[18:20] <playaspec> I'm running the server edition of Ubuntu, no the desktop
[18:20] <TomyLobo> why get rid of swap? how are you going to hibernate without a swap?
[18:20] <XRS1> poz,   open gparted -> right click on the swap space, delete, right click on the partition you want to resize and select resize
[18:20] <DJones> poz: Be aware that if you don't have swap, you won't be able to use hibernate
[18:21] <XRS1> why would you want to hibernate?
[18:21] <XRS1> hibernate doesnt always work properly
[18:21] <playaspec> XRS1: To save the state so you may pick up where you left off
[18:21] <poz> oh i see
[18:21] <TomyLobo> XRS1 ecrypt user?
[18:21] <XRS1> you can save your session without hibernate
[18:22] <poz> I typically just put it to sleep
[18:22] <poz> does ubuntu have sleep?
[18:22] <cgade> Does anyone know how to change the amount of ram going into java applications? (For minecraft).
[18:22] <XRS1> sleep works without swap
[18:22] <TomyLobo> not green dude
[18:22] <poz> then that is fine
[18:22] <TomyLobo> sleep wastes energy
[18:23] <DJones> poz: sleep is normally suspend to ram, hibernate is suspend to disk
[18:23] <TomyLobo> ^ and ram needs energy to sustain
[18:23] <XRS1> green? neither is running a server 24/7
[18:23] <TomyLobo> you usually have a reason to do so, XRS1
[18:24] <TomyLobo> there's no reason for hours of sleepmode
[18:24] <XRS1> this isnt apple or micrsoft, he can do as he pleases
[18:24] <poz> lol it is okay. i found a solution
[18:26] <poz> I wanted to have 65 gb as shared spaced between my win 7 and ubuntu. but i could not make it since swap, root, home, and boot were my partitions. so I created a primaty patition and put the 65 gb shared spaced (ntfs) and swap in it.
[18:26] <poz> sorry, i created an extended partition**
[18:26] <vitimiti> (-.-)/
[18:26] <XRS1> ewwww
[18:27] <poz> why ewww?
[18:27] <XRS1> save your documents before you hibernat
[18:27] <poz> lol in the short term i plan to just use sleep
[18:27] <TomyLobo> XRS1 i always hibernate my windows machine
[18:27] <XRS1> on an ntfs partition?
[18:27] <kevin1961> Hi, anybody know of a good screen recorder that records sound as well via the sound card?
[18:27] <TomyLobo> yes of course
[18:27] <poz> i dont typically hibernate because it takes time for it to come out of hibernate
[18:28] <TomyLobo> with tons of shit on
[18:28] <TomyLobo> sometimes even games when i forget to close them
[18:28] <sjuxax> Hello. I have a server here and almost no logs are being written. No mail.log, no auth.log, etc. I'm assuming this is a syslog problem. I just removed rsyslog with apt-get remove --purge and reinstalled, seeminlgy to no effect. Have restarted, same. Any ideas on the problem here?
[18:28] <poz> my computer can restart in the time it takes to get out of hibernate
[18:28] <XRS1> im not saying hibernate is broken, im just saying if its important, make sure its saved before you do so
[18:28] <poz> so why not just shut off?
[18:29] <TomyLobo> earlier you said precisely that, XRS1
[18:29] <XRS1> i said it doesnt always work
[18:29] <playaspec> so is replacing inetd with xinetd going to break a bunch of stuff?
 hibernate doesnt always work properly
[18:29] <XRS1> exactly
[18:29] <TomyLobo> which is broken
[18:29] <poz> haha
[18:29] <XRS1> whatever dude
[18:30] <TomyLobo> playaspec server?
[18:30] <TomyLobo> or desktop?
[18:30] <poz> I know this is a bad attided but my utilitys are included with my rent, so it does not cost any extra for me to just leave it in sleep... yeah? :P
[18:30] <playaspec> Yes, the server version of 12.04
[18:30] <poz> attitude *
[18:31] <kriskropd> I'm trying to make an ext4 partition with parted, but it says "No Implementation: Support for creating ext4 file systems is not implemented yet." - What do i update to get it working with ext4?
[18:31] <XRS1> your a bad human being and mother earth should smother you  :p (j/k)
[18:31] <TomyLobo> poz hibernate also survives power outages
[18:31] <kevin1961> kazam ok thanks
[18:31] <TomyLobo> or your cat chewing up the cable
[18:31] <poz> tomylobo, only if it is already in hibernation mode
[18:31] <tomreyn> kriskropd: you create the file system manually using the mkfs.ext4 command on a temrinal
[18:32] <TomyLobo> power outages at night of course
[18:32] <poz> typcailly power losses only effect me if i am using it at the time
[18:32] <kriskropd> tomreyn: i know parted can do ext4 though, so why can't i just use that here?
[18:32] <alex007> question, i just installed server version and i can access ftp and ssh from WAN but not httpd. httpd works fine from LAN. all ports are fowarded.
[18:32] <tomreyn> kriskropd: i.e. just create the partition on gparted
[18:32] <TomyLobo> poz it kills your active session
[18:32] <TomyLobo> in sleep mode
[18:32] <playaspec> It's weird, even though it's not installed, there's still a ton of files related to xinetd in /etc
[18:32] <TomyLobo> it's as if you... cut the power cord :)
[18:33] <poz> but i see your point. hib has its uses. I might use it in the future. I still have my 4 gb swap for it.
[18:33] <TomyLobo> say how big is your hard drive?
[18:33] <tomreyn> kriskropd: you can try using parted then. gparted does not always support all parted features immediately, there is usually some delay.
[18:33] <poz> I have 240 ssd, 120 ssd and two 3 tb hard drives
[18:33] <TomyLobo> and you're worrying about 4 gb?
[18:33] <poz> lol no
[18:34] <kriskropd> tomreyn: btw, im not using gparted, im using parted :) and ty anyways
[18:34] <poz> i am worried about being limited to only 4 primary partitions...
[18:34] <tomreyn> playaspec: not installed / removed != purged. you may want to: sudo apt-get ourge xinted\*
[18:34] <TomyLobo> poz logical partitions dude
[18:34] <poz> but i stuck them into an extended partition
[18:35] <poz> lol yeah, first time using them, i see how it works now though
[18:35] <stupidethernet> hey folks, just trying to install ubuntu on a HP ProLiant MicroServer and it simply refuses to find the onboard ethernet.  Both XBMCbuntu and Ubuntu are affected
[18:35] <stupidethernet> it looks like others have not had this problem, and the ethernet cable works when plugged into an adjacent machine
[18:35] <stupidethernet> any ideas?
[18:35] <arya_kevin_wicak> hello all
[18:35] <poz> and that is why i still have my swap space
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lshw -class network doesn't pick up anything
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lcps too
[18:36] <tomreyn> kriskropd: sorry, i misread, but generally parted doesn't consider file system operations to be its job, at least not lately, and it's recommended those are done outside of it.
[18:36] <jost> I'd need some hints on creating multiple virtual machines running in parallel. How do I do that in ubuntu, what vm-software is tested and stable?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lspci even
[18:36] <stupidethernet> jost... Xen or VirtualBox
[18:36] <Tecan> anyone else have issues installing bootloaders ?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> Tecan, no
[18:36] <jost> stupidethernet, does one of them have a fancy GUI?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> VirtualBox
[18:36] <jost> (never done such stuff before...)
[18:37] <jost> thanks
[18:37] <Tecan> i have to boot with supergrub everytime on 3tb harddrives
[18:37] <stupidethernet> np
[18:38] <playaspec> tomreyn: I want xinetd to satisfy a dependency. Currently, openbsd-inetd is installed, which I guess was the default for the distro
[18:38] <dooglus> when I close lid, netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?
[18:38] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: sounds like you may need a binary firmware blob, or vendors drivers
[18:38] <milamber> stupidethernet: can you pastebin: lspci -v
[18:39] <stupidethernet> not easily, there's no network access ! ;)
[18:39] <tomreyn> playaspec: that's unrelated to whether or not a package is in status purged or just removed
[18:39] <stupidethernet> there is NOTHING to do with networks there
[18:40] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, others haven't had to, which seems strange
[18:40] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: true. have you cheked syslog, bios?
[18:40] <milamber> stupidethernet: then run it and tell us exactly what the ethernet controller is identified as
[18:41] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: maybe the on-board nics were disabled by the previous owner since they had extnerla nics attached.
[18:42] <stupidethernet> milamber, there is no mention of ethernet anywhere in lspci
[18:43] <XRS1> i turned on internet connection sharing and borked the internet. nothing works except IRC (i cant even ping!)
[18:43] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: so it will be disabled in bios probably
[18:43] <XRS1> is this normal?  :P
[18:43] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, had a look and couldn't see any option to disable it :/
[18:43] <alex007> question, i just installed server version and i can access ftp and ssh from WAN but not httpd. httpd works fine from LAN. all ports are fowarded.
[18:43] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: did you buy this new or refurbished or used?
[18:44] <alex007> what could be causing this?
[18:44] <usr13> alex007: "all ports"?
[18:44] <alex007> 21 22 80
[18:44] <stupidethernet> new
[18:44] <stupidethernet> and the ethernet worked with windows
[18:44] <alex007> all needed ports
[18:44] <XRS1> alex007,  incorrect NAT routing could cause that
[18:44] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: can you tell the exact model # ?
[18:45] <b14d3> alex007: Did httpd work previously?
[18:45] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: this really lists nothing at all? lspci -nnv | grep -i ether
[18:45] <alex007> new setup
[18:45] <alex007> it works using lan ip
[18:45]  * Sm0kEz d-_-b JK - You & I :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK0FQPIsU38
[18:45] <alex007> doesnt using external ip
[18:45] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, yep... absolutely nadda!  gobsmacked tbh
[18:46] <alex007> but other services do work
[18:46] <XRS1> im suspecting firewall or NAT issue
[18:46] <b14d3> alex007: Are you sure that the port is open for your isp? Inbound 80 is not always.
[18:46] <dooglus> when I close its lid, my netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?
[18:46] <stupidethernet> it's a friends machine, all we know is it is a HP ProLiant MicroServer
[18:46] <XRS1> true, try binding to a diff port other than 80
[18:46] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: maybe there's something like "unknwon device"? lspci -nnv | grep -i device
[18:47] <alex007> going to try another port
[18:47] <TomyLobo> i thought only windows had those
[18:47] <XRS1> :P
[18:47] <lucido> do you know a simple way to wipe an ubuntu system
[18:47] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, 2 secs... just in bios... will look once back in
[18:47] <ufk> hi
[18:47] <Evil_Eric> simple rm -r /*
[18:48] <XRS1> use a live USB or CD (or windows disk) and erase the thing
[18:48] <dooglus> lucido: DBAN?
[18:48] <dr_willis> lucido: dd can delete the whole hd.
[18:48] <dooglus> Evil_Eric: that doesn't work
[18:48] <Evil_Eric> oh
[18:48] <dooglus> Evil_Eric: I tried it once accidentally.  only lost half my files
[18:48] <Evil_Eric> well damn
[18:49] <XRS1> lucido,  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> Evil_Eric  in a terminal, type apt-cache show wipe
[18:49] <dooglus> I don't think wipe will work too well for wiping a running system either
[18:50] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: this should tell you a bit more on this system: sudo dmidecode | grep -EiA10 '^(System|Base Board|Chassis) Information'
[18:50] <dooglus> best to boot into a different OS.  I suggest DBAN: http://www.dban.org/
[18:50] <Evil_Eric> MonkeyDust, its ok im not trying to wipre my system i was just thinking that rm -rf /* would wipe out everything
[18:50] <dr_willis> well.. it wont run after you whipe it. ;)
[18:50] <milamber> Evil_Eric: it won't anymore
[18:51] <Greatmzn> why use linux?
[18:51] <TJ-> I have a remote server upgrade from 10.04.1 to 12.04.1 that, whilst restarting openvpn, lost the connection. When the connection was regained some pending key-presses caused the "do-release-upgrade" screen session to abort but has left "dpkg ... --status-fd 10 --configure ..." running and probably awaiting user input for some config file. How can I correctly reconnect to that?
[18:51] <Evil_Eric> i actually have my system stable the way i want it DO NOT wanna change anything
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> Greatmzn  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[18:52] <Evil_Eric> if i could freeze all my updates and just run it like this i would
[18:52] <h00k> Greatmzn: it's not entirely Ubuntu related, but consider asking in ##linux
[18:52] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, cheers dude... bloody bios setting... sorry for wasting your time!
[18:52] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: np, glad you found it. it's weird to be deactivated by default though.
[18:53] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, yeah, pretty weird!
[18:53] <tboat> hey all, anyone around who happens to have mod/admin abilities on launchpad?  have some guys trolling/hate spamming a bug
[18:54] <Pici> tboat: You can ask about it in #launchpad
[18:54] <ikonia> the guys in #ubuntu-bug may also be able to do something
[18:54] <tboat> Pici: thanks :)
[18:54] <dooglus> I asked: when I close its lid, my netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?  Answer: put a file in /etc/pm/config.d saying   ADD_PARAMETERS="--quirk-vbestate-restore"
[18:54] <rushboy> hello when I issue the make command after running autogen.sh file , I get this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452996/plain/ . Can anyone please help me with this ?
[18:55] <tomreyn> TJ-: i don't think you can, really. or wouldn't know how either. make sure you use GNU screen or similar next time. for now, i'd either wait for the process to complete or kill it, then containue the upgrade manually.
[18:58] <tboat> rushboy: need to git-add the directory
[18:58] <hilo> hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if there is a driver or built in support for Cisco USB Console?
[18:58] <hilo> I am in the DC and my usb to serial died :(
[18:59] <rushboy> tboat: I issued the command git add .
[18:59] <tboat> rushboy: and then got that error?
[18:59] <rushboy> tboat: yes
[19:00] <rushboy> tboat: well i was getting an error saying the index file was not large enough , then I used the git add . command and then i got the error
[19:00] <tboat> rushboy: it cant find 'dictionaries' so double check that it has been added
[19:01] <TomyLobo> "git add ." is usually a bad idea :)
[19:02] <tboat> i dont know if that is a common 'dictionaries' for git or specific to whatever your project is, if it is part of git, i would reinstall.  otherwise that 'dictionaries' file/folder has not been added correctly
[19:02] <TJ-> tomreyn: screen is used by do-release-upgrade alreadt; it was the screen session that terminated. I had captured the cmdline for it previously, but using that to try to regain control doesn't work
[19:04] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I am looking for kernel headers 3.5.0-21-generic. Anyone know where I can find a download? Google is not acting like a friend right now :/
[19:04] <tomreyn> hilo: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x356.html note the 1st paragraph on moduiule load options
[19:04] <tomreyn> hilo: and i've not done it before.
[19:04] <usr13> cakeboss: The package manager will get them for you.
[19:05] <JRThump> hi, i'm getting "This version of Steam is currently in closed beta.", although I installed the steam-latest.deb today? Is there some way around this problem?
[19:05] <cakeboss> usr13: thanks
[19:05] <cakeboss> usr13: How do I find the package manager? I am not used to unity
[19:06] <tomreyn> TJ-: the screen session terminated? how would this happen? i guess you need to kill the dpkg process because dpkg will be locked now, preventing any modifications.
[19:07] <kostkon> JRThump, right click on its icon and select any option from the quicklist
[19:07] <TJ-> tomreyn: I was trying to regain control of the dropped ssh session when it appeared to be terminally disconnected... I suspect some of the control-codes must have killed the process that launched the remote screen :s
[19:08] <usr13> cakehero: install build-essential
[19:08] <Sab3r> anyone happen to have any script or something how I could change many .jpg pictures' names to, for example, picture1.jpg picture2.jpg picture3.jpg etc
[19:08] <usr13> cakehero: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:08] <magma> what's the shortcut to show the spinning cub with all my desktops in unity?
[19:08] <magma> cube*
[19:08] <tomreyn> TJ- :-/ bad luck
[19:09] <JRThump> kostkon: I see that, what do I go in this menu?
[19:09] <angelpossum> how do you switch nicks
[19:09] <xangua> magma: cube plugin in unity is a bad combination :)
[19:09] <cakehero> usr13 cakeboss left =/
[19:09] <cakehero> I think that was for him
[19:09] <TJ-> tomreyn: yeah. I'm working through the Python release scripts to find out where they launch the screen/dpkg stuff since there's a while /tmp/XXX/ directory with in-progress files in it. Should be possible to get it to pick up where it left off
[19:09] <magma> xangua, why
[19:09] <angelpossum> bkbm,b,mb,bb,jbkjgbkgbkjgvbkhvhkjvkgvkjvjkhv
[19:10] <usr13> cakehero: Oh, sorry...
[19:10] <angelpossum> am i a ghost here
[19:10] <Tech-1> boo
[19:10] <usr13> agile_netvark: /nick
[19:10] <kostkon> JRThump, you are using unity?
[19:10] <usr13> agile_netvark: /nick new-nick
[19:10] <b14d3> Close usr13 lol. angelpossum /nick [nick]
[19:10] <JRThump> kostkon: yes
[19:11] <kostkon> JRThump, add the steam icon in your launcher, then right click on it
[19:11] <tomreyn> TJ-: good luck, i haven't tried this before. also do-release-upgrade didn't spawn a screen process last time i used it, so my info may be outdated anyways.
[19:11] <usr13> b14d3: Not close, exact  ;0
[19:11] <JRThump> kostkon: yes I have done so. I see the popup menu with different alternatives, what do I choose?
[19:11] <tomreyn> !patience | angelpossum
[19:12] <b14d3> usr13: I meant your mention :) You tab-completed the wrong name twice lol
[19:12] <cakehero> usr13 no problem, sometimes I confuse you with usr12 and user14
[19:12] <usr13> b14d3: oh
[19:12] <tvfae> hi I wonder ir the fglrx-updates in repo is updated coz iit's show same version as fglrx thkx
[19:13] <kostkon> JRThump, choose one at random it doesnt matter :P
[19:13] <usr13> ... twice in a row ... pretty bad ...
[19:13] <JRThump> kostkon: Ok I am now in a Settings-window with various tabs.
[19:13] <XRS1> tvfae,  is fglrx working for you (just out of curiosity)
[19:14] <kostkon> JRThump, nwo you can use it freely
[19:15] <dave101010> steam for linux
[19:16] <JRThump> kostkom: hmm, now it wont start at all :-( maybe I should remove it completely and start from the beginning. I installed some packets a couple of weeks ago but never got into the closed beta group...
[19:18] <kostkon> JRThump, pruge it, and also if you want delete the steam folder that's in your home, but beware you'll lose everything. games, settings etc.
[19:18] <kostkon> purge*
[19:19] <JRThump> kostkom: Ok, so I "apt-get purge steam" and delete "~/.steam". And then reinstall? I think I did that but somehow it still remembered my steam user account name?
[19:19] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:20] <tvfae> hi
[19:20] <kostkon> not ~/.steam, i am not sure if there is such a folder, i meant ~/Steam :P
[19:20] <kostkon> JRThump, ^^
[19:21] <JRThump> kostkon: Oh, well must be som legacy from before, cause I'm pretty sure it was called .steam :-) Anyway thanks will try!
[19:21] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[19:21] <tomreyn> kostkon: check also for presence of ~/.config/steam and ~/.config/Steam
[19:21] <lucido> XRS1, would that work on a runnig system?
[19:21] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[19:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:22] <XRS1> lucido,  i think so. i accidentally erased my /home partition with that yesterday
[19:23] <XRS1> some one said dd would do it, and thats the dd command to do it
[19:23] <lucido> XRS1, I see, but what about / and swap
[19:24] <lucido> and rewrite
[19:24] <XRS1> hda is probably where you keep all of your partitions so yeah
[19:24] <TJ-> tomreyn: Good news. After killing the safety sshd on port 1022 and remaining stray dpkg and other processes obviously associated with do-release-upgrade, I was able to restart it simply by editing /etc/lsb-release. It seems that is updated to show 12.04/Precise before the upgrade is complete, which causes re-runs of do-releae-upgrade to report "no new release". Editing that file to report 10.04.1/Lucid has allowed do-release-upgrade to restart and it appears to have p
[19:24] <TJ-> icked up where it left off with dpkg --configure config questions
[19:25] <lucido> XRS1, hope it wond crashű
[19:25] <XRS1> it should wipe everything but look like the system works untill you start trying to click on stuff
[19:25] <JRThump> Stupid question, is there a PPA for steam (guess not since guides say download packet through web)...?
[19:26] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's good to know, thanks for sharing
[19:26] <TJ-> JRThump: No, but Valve have their own repository now
[19:26] <TeamRocket1233c> This may be a retarded question, but there ever going to be an official Cinnamon spin and MATE spin of Ubuntu?
[19:27] <TJ-> tomreyn: Now I've done that, it's reminded me a similar thing happened to me a couple years ago and I think I fixed it the same way that time too. Wish I'd remembered that before I figured out the fix a second time!
[19:27] <JRThump> TJ-: Repository? Here comes an even more stupid q: Is that something you add in software manager?
[19:27] <XRS1> there will be if you make it.   anything is possible, just need people to take charge and run with it
[19:27] <microcode> I'm having an issue with ubuntu 12.10 and dependency solving in apt right now, it's faling to solve dependencies automatically and instead complaining that they're not already installed
[19:28] <microcode> (I'm trying to install libglu1-mesa-dev and other libglu1-mesa-* packages
[19:28] <microcode> and they're all failing
[19:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: rediscovering old fixes is a common experience to me, too ;)
[19:28] <TJ-> JRThump: It's what in GUI terms is called a "Software Source" - can be added from the Software Centre/Edit/Software Sources menu I believe. You'd need to find out the GPG signing key too, but I downloaded from their repo this morning
[19:29] <JRThump> TJ-: Ok thx, I guess I'll be fine with the .deb from the web for now :-)
[19:30] <milamber> microcode: can you pastebin it?
[19:36] <TeamRocket1233c> Also, are MATE and Cinnamon ever going to get in the offical repos anyways?
[19:37] <mikro_> Hi guys, How can i turn into root (ubuntu 11.04)? I can't using $su or $su -  ??
[19:37] <newroad> Question: I have VirtualBox, the latest version, which I updated from a previous version. I had previously installed the Guest Additions. After updating, my Guest Additions are still the old version
[19:37] <newroad> is there a way to update Guest Additions? When I reclick Install Guest Additions, nothing happens.
[19:38] <tomreyn> !sudo | mikro_
[19:38] <Guest28153> Hello
[19:39] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, no, those are mint-stuff, you can add their ppa's to get them, but are unsupported here
[19:39] <Guest28153> i've got today surprise in my kubuntu os, when all my root disk was eated (there was no space)
[19:39] <mikro_> thanks ubottu, but I know that i can use sudo,  but i want to be root user in order not to type sudo every command
[19:40] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Poking around and saw something about Cinnamon being included in 13.04, but not sure if that's accurate or not.
[19:40] <tomreyn> newroad: guest additions aren't updated with every new version of virtualbox. the 'install guest additionas' menu option basically just mounts the iso image in the guest's virtual cd-rom drive, so you both need to have such a drive and have auto-play work or access the inserted virtual media using a file browser from within the guest.
[19:40] <Guest28153> after discovering problem i found command to see folders in my home folder
[19:40] <llutz> mikro_: sudo -i      gives you a full featured root-shell
[19:40] <Guest28153> du -hsx * | sort -rh | head -10
[19:41] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:41] <Guest28153> 13G     VirtualBox VMs
[19:41] <Guest28153> 5,2G    Downloads
[19:41] <Guest28153> 1,8G    Desktop
[19:41] <Guest28153> 660M    QSTK
[19:41] <Guest28153> 372M    Documents
[19:41] <FloodBot1> Guest28153: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <Guest28153> this is my output
[19:42] <Guest28153> if i count space it no more then 22 Gb
[19:42] <mikro_> wow, It works, Thank you ubottu :)
[19:42] <sebsebseb> What's the name of the proccess for the additional hardware drivers program in Ubuntu?
[19:42] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: And hey, if Fedora can include the two DEs in its official repos.
[19:42] <dreinull> I connect my mac mini ppc lubuntu to a samsung tv which supports 1920x1080 but it always complains about an unsupported resolution. Only thing that works is 1280x1024 which is basically only good with 4:3
[19:42] <Guest28153> but home dir property shows 32
[19:42] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, i was wrong, cinnamon will be available in raring, i stick to kde > http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/cinnamon
[19:42] <Guest28153> Gb
[19:42] <Guest28153> why it could be?
[19:43] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: I'm just curious to try Cinnamon, but prefer Unity.
[19:43] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, mate i have no info that it will be
[19:43] <Guest28153> where is my 12 Gb
[19:43] <tomreyn> mikro_: sudo -i
[19:43] <tomreyn> oh i'm late
[19:43] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: At least Cinnamon will be in 13.04, and TBH, if I were to use a GNOME 2-like DE, I'd prefer Cinnamon over MATE anyways.
[19:43] <OerHeks> Guest28153, post again on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <mikro_> thank you tomreyn :)
[19:44] <tomreyn> :)
[19:44] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Now as for a more GNOME 3-like DE, gotta go with Unity.
[19:44] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: jockey-gtk
[19:45] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, did you try pure gnome3 also ?
[19:45] <OerHeks> !nounity
[19:45] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: you sure? not using Ubuntu  now.  The one for installing the NIivda propritary driver I am on about.
[19:45] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: In F16, yes.
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !info jocky-gtk
[19:45] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Not the biggest fan, a little too clunky for me. lol
[19:45] <sebsebseb> hmm?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: also I am on about 12.10 by the way
[19:46] <treitter> does anyone know the names of the ubuntu-online-accounts packages? Is it just gnome-control-center-signon?
[19:46] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: i'm sure, and you had a typo
[19:46] <sebsebseb> oh
[19:46] <sebsebseb> !info jockey-gtk
[19:46] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Have thought about giving it another shot though.
[19:47] <root__> hi
[19:47] <sebsebseb> yep that's probably it :)  GNOME Shell and so on should work better with that driver installed, in the GNOME Remix on another computer here :d
[19:47] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: thanks :)
[19:48] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: See if it's improved over time since I messed with it in Fedora 16.
[19:48] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:48] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: actually i seem to have been wrong, software-properties is the new handler
[19:48] <Guest28153> please help guys
[19:48] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: is that a package to?
[19:49] <tomreyn> !info software-properties-gtk | sebsebseb
[19:49] <poz> hello all, I was hear earlier with some boot problems. They are much worse now. I seem to have lost the ability to boot into ubuntu
[19:49] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: I know Unity's improved over time from the piece-of-junk it started out as in Natty to the really nice DE it is in Quantal.
[19:49] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: that looks like its for the repos going by the info
[19:50] <magez> what are the chances http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3917&dl=1#sp if this fully works with ubuntu 64bit?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: I guess its one of them though :)
[19:52] <poz> when I go into grub customizer, all I have is a windows 7 loader
[19:52] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453134/ - i'm on 12.10
[19:52] <poz> no ubuntu
[19:52] <poz> does anyone know how to get it back? I have tryed boot-repair
[19:52] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: why did you show me that?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: oh ok now I see why
[19:53] <angelpossum> how do i log in to my account
[19:53] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: ok :)
[19:53] <sebsebseb> ok thanks looks like I'll have to install that into the 12.10 GNOME Remix then and then should be able to get the propritary NIvida driver  installed easier I guess :)
[19:54] <poz> I am in trouble
[19:54] <InspectorCluseau> poz ... what boot-repair?
[19:54] <poz> does anyone know how to rebuild grub from scratch?
[19:54] <dr_willis> what grub custom izer?
[19:55] <rafajafar> Hey I've bee trying to download the Ubuntu ISO and it's just not happening on any computer on any browser.
[19:55] <rafajafar> it literally just keeps spinning
[19:55] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:55] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:55] <poz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:55] <Guest28153> рудз зды
[19:55] <Guest28153> sorry, help pls
[19:55] <poz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183
[19:56] <angelpossum> hey ):
[19:56] <angelpossum> wopps wrong channel
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: maybe software-properties is already there, ah well, I'll find out when there again :d
[19:56] <sebsebseb> on that computer
[19:57] <sebsebseb> angelpossum: hi anyway
[19:57] <rafajafar> does anyone know what to do? I cannot get the ISO to download. It wont connect to the mirrors or something.
[19:57] <poz> i am scared that if i turn off my computer i will never get into ubuntu again
[19:57] <rafajafar> this is the download link: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[19:57] <milamber> rafajafar: try the torrent?
[19:58] <milamber> rafajafar: and i just copypasta'd that into chromium and it immediatedly started downloading
[19:58] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: i would expect software-properties-gzk to be installed by default, yes
[19:58] <rafajafar> that is absolutely weird
[19:58] <rafajafar> does it use location based mirroring
[19:58] <usr13> poz: So, what exactly, is your situation?
[19:58] <poz> basically ubuntu does not show up in grub
[19:59] <tomreyn> Guest28153: you probably have some dot files / dot directories. * does not match them.
[19:59] <usr13> poz: What version of Ubuntu to you have installed?
[19:59] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: maybe not for the Ubuntu 12.10 GNOME Remix,  since the whole point is to take 12.10 and then make it well much more GNOME like
[19:59] <poz> 12.04.1 lts
[19:59] <usr13> poz: Fresh install?
[20:00] <poz> kinda, I have been playing with it for about a day now
[20:00] <rafajafar> yes it does
[20:00] <usr13> poz: and.......?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: so I had to insall Firefox and LibreOffice myself for example
[20:00] <rafajafar> it's trying to connect to ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu
[20:00] <rafajafar> and it's failing
[20:00] <rafajafar> :-/
[20:00] <DaveR> if I want to setup a TFTP server for PXE booting do I also have to run a DHCP server?
[20:00] <minderasr> greetings
[20:00] <LuizAngioletti> Hello there!
[20:00] <poz> and now i broke grub
[20:00] <microcode> milamber: http://pastebin.ca/2295353 sorry for the wait
[20:00] <minderasr> any forum admins about?
[20:00] <microcode> it's being a real bitch.
[20:01] <usr13> poz: What exactly did you do to break grub?
[20:01] <usr13> poz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[20:01] <poz> i think boot-repair did it
[20:01] <Guest28153> KUbuntu 12.04 my OS
[20:01] <LuizAngioletti> I've followed the recommendations from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server, and I can update the apt cache in my client machine, When I try to install something, it returns error code 100.
[20:01] <LuizAngioletti> Can anyone help?
[20:01] <angelpossum> hey what does it mean when i send a message to someone or on the chat screen and after i send the message it says this:   #defocus-uncensored :Cannot send to channel. is this normal
[20:01] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: okay, but those are applications, the APT repository managment utility is more system-like, i would expect it to be installed already on any distro which is based on ubuntu and uses gtk.
[20:01] <Ziber> What's the easiest way to make a kernel default for booting in grub?
[20:01] <poz> i am not sure how to use it so I was just messing around with it. now it only finds my windows 7 bootloader, not ubuntu
[20:02] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: oh ok :)
[20:02] <rafajafar> can someone tell me where to find the torrent, the site's broken
[20:02] <usr13> poz: What exactly were you trying to repair?
[20:03] <poz> I was having some other problems with windows 7 not loading from grub
[20:03] <milamber> rafajafar: the site is not broken. go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop    right click on get ubuntu 12.10 and then click save target as
[20:03] <rafajafar> yeah the site's broken brother
[20:03] <tomreyn> rafajafar: try to download with wget, and report the error message if any.
[20:03] <Aww>
[20:03] <rafajafar> if you can't download because a mirror is down, that's broken
[20:03] <usr13> poz: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[20:04] <jKoudYs> Is there a way I can make a select run against different tables if some value's in a certain range? e.g. select from table1 is key <= 10000, table2 if key > 10000
[20:04] <usr13> poz: What other problems?
[20:04] <milamber> rafajafar: i followed the link you gave me and downloaded the iso
[20:04] <jKoudYs> err wrong channel..
[20:04]  * michagogo has a suggestion
[20:04] <michagogo> The torrent downloads should have the regular download as a webseed in the torrent file
[20:04] <rafajafar> milamber: I understand, here's the thing
[20:04] <rafajafar> that url redirects to a mirror
[20:04] <angelpossum> can anyone solve my problem
[20:05] <newroad> Hmmm, I have an Optimus laptop using Bumblebee (dual video cards). When I open Virtual Box settings it only recognizes 128MB of video memory (the size of the onboard graphics). But the dedicated graphics actually has 2GB of memory. I've tried launching Virtualbox with "optirun virtualbox" but it still only sees 128MB. What could cause this?
[20:05] <tim-ct> hi all Please can someone have a look at my firewall config. There is an error somewhere http://pastebin.com/uMHh6Vt7
[20:05] <usr13> poz: At any rate, the information at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub  should get you going again.
[20:05] <milamber> rafajafar: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[20:06] <microcode> milamber: any idea as to what may be wrong? or are you just as stumped as I?
[20:06] <usr13> tim-ct: So, what's it not doing?
[20:06] <tim-ct> usr13 cant see thru it
[20:08] <milamber> microcode: do: sudo apt-get clean
[20:08] <michagogo> Who would I go to to file that sugestion?
[20:08] <usr13> tim-ct: So you are trying to share a conection through your ubuntu box?
[20:09] <microcode> milamber: I have, and a number of other "solutions"
[20:09] <microcode> to no avail as you might assume...
[20:09] <tim-ct> usr13 yes
[20:09] <microcode> the issue seems to be that these mesa-related packages, in the form that's been downloaded, are causing cyclic dependencies
[20:09] <milamber> microcode: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:09] <agliodbs> 12.04 doesn't seem to support an LSI megaraid card which is supported by both RHEL and Gentoo.  Where do I report this/search for previously reported bugs?
[20:09] <michagogo> This isn't set +zq *!*@*, is it?
[20:09] <microcode> milamber: that one as well..
[20:10] <agliodbs> I've looked on "reporting bugs", but that just leads me around in circles
[20:10] <billybob_> my Ubuntu server is failing to send to send email's. Im trying to find my error logs?
[20:10] <Ziber> With 12.04, whats the proper way in /etc/sudoers to be able to execute sudo commands without a password?
[20:11] <milamber> microcode: then i would try and install the packages one at a time, also looking into if you can add the devs you need
[20:12] <pigi> ciao
[20:12] <pigi> !list
[20:12] <usr13> tim-ct: Not sure what I'm looking at here:  http://pastebin.com/uMHh6Vt7  Can you explain?
[20:13] <AbortD> gnome vs kde anyone?
[20:13] <milamber> microcode: and if you are still getting errors pastebin apt-get check
[20:14] <tim-ct> usr13 That is the interface,iptables -L and v4 files dumps
[20:14] <tomreyn> !poll | AbortD
[20:14] <michagogo> We just missed 20:12 20/12/2012 :-(
[20:14] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: GMOME, as that's essentially what I'm running.
[20:15] <billybob_> Im trying to trouble shoot sending emails. I forgot how I got into my error log. I went in there about a week ago and had to remove my ip from Spamhaus. Its not listed now but still not sending. how do i find the error logs? php error logs
[20:15] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Unity as the shell, but still GNOME under the hood.
[20:15] <AbortD> is there a way to strip unity?
[20:15] <milamber> !nounity
[20:15] <tim-ct> billybob  /var/log/maillog
[20:15] <erncic> Ziber:    try something like %sudo     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:16] <AbortD> kde sorry for bugging you all thanks
[20:16] <AbortD> kde it is*
[20:16] <erncic> Ziber: That should allow everything without a password.... not a great idea
[20:16] <phibxr> !flamewar | AbortD
[20:16] <phibxr> Could have worked...
[20:16] <AbortD> lol
[20:16] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Install alternative desktops, such as Xfce, LXDE, GNOME Shell, KDE, MATE, or Cinnamon, and use those instead of Unity.
[20:17] <Ziber> erncic: my account doesn't have a password, only using ssh keys
[20:17] <phibxr> Ubottu claims no knowledge of such a thing as a flamewar. For the first time ever, I doubt him.
[20:17] <tomreyn> billybob_: php error logs usually go into the web servers' error logs. they don't have to, but it's the default setup. all system logs are usually stored somewhere below /var/log/
[20:17] <AbortD> TeamRocket1233c doesnt that involve installing all their libs? i tried that once and had every kde and gnome program
[20:17] <microcode> milamber: the issue is partially that there are cyclic dependencies, it says it depends on one package for example, but that package uponwhich it depends, also has the aforementioned package as a dependency
[20:17] <tomreyn> billybob_: you should also inpect your mail servers' logs, located in the same directory
[20:17] <microcode> would it be safe to force-install both ?
[20:17] <billybob_> im in my mail.log now thanks, im digging into the problem
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Yes.
[20:18] <milamber> phibxr: ubottu is a she
[20:18] <tomreyn> billybob_: finally, if you're trying to send mail to other mailservers from your home then you'Re doing something wrong.
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Also, you have to add the MATE or Cinnamon libs as well, as neither are in the official repos currently.
[20:18] <billybob_> im on a hosted VPS
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Although Cinnamon will be in the official repos starting with 13.04.
[20:19] <milamber> microcode: there's always inherent danger when forcing things, but in my experience apt-get protects the important stuff
[20:19] <tomreyn> billybob_: okay that should be fine
[20:19] <Sargun> Are there any maverick mirrors?
[20:19] <billybob_> there is an insane amount of logs in here
[20:19] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: No idea on MATE, and there is an unofficial GNOME Shell spin for Ubuntu as well.
[20:19] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Ubuntu GNOME Remix.
[20:19] <milamber> !maverick | sargun
[20:20] <Ziber> How can I make a directory mount at boot?
[20:20] <TeamRocket1233c> !lucid
[20:20] <usr13> tim-ct: Ok, well here is what your firewall script probably should look like, (less forwarding):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453189/
[20:20] <milamber> !fstab | Ziber
[20:20] <TeamRocket1233c> !karmic
[20:20] <tomreyn> billybob_: be sure to have your VPS provider set a reverse hostname on your servers' IP address. search wikipedia for "forward confirmed reverse DNS" for details.
[20:21] <milamber> !bot | TeamRocket1233c
[20:21] <DJones> Sargun: You could look here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:21]  * michagogo slaps the virtualbox installer around a bit with a large trout
[20:21] <Sargun> DJones: I see that they have the ISOs there, but where can I get the repos?
[20:22] <milamber> Sargun: there are no more repos, maverick is eol
[20:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Lucid will be EOL in April, along with Oneiric.
[20:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Sargun: You'd be better off going with Precise or newer.
[20:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !precise | Sargun
[20:23] <billybob_> there is a ton of activity in here, Think my server might be spamming people
[20:23] <AndChat330644> J arch-linux
[20:24] <tim-ct> usr13   thak you
[20:24] <TeamRocket1233c> AndChat330644: Arch is good if you have the time to set it up.
[20:24] <DJones> Sargun: This may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/118674/are-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-repositories-going-to-be-removed-or-deleted-af See the link ablut halfway down, that explains how to use the old releases as a repo if necessary
[20:25] <tomreyn> billybob_: http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/
[20:25] <qwebirc94257> Hello.  I want to know if there is a command line utility to compare file metadata (access/modification/creation timestamps, owner, group, permisions etc.) in addition to file content.  GNU `diff' seems to only compare file content and does not seem to have the ability to compare the file metadata (although I might be mistaken on this)...
[20:25] <usr13> tim-ct: Correction:  That last line, may be wrong path, /usr/sbin/iptables prolly should be /usr/share/iptables or just iptables
[20:25] <poz> ever fee like every time you touch your computer you make it worse?
[20:25] <billybob_> ohh yea, this is bad http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/<IP_ADDRESS>.html
[20:27] <tomreyn> billybob_: no, not really, just your reverse record is badly set
[20:27] <poz> I am scared
[20:28] <TeamRocket1233c> Rhythmbox, Banshee, or VLC?
[20:28] <michagogo> !latest
[20:28] <michagogo> Not what I wanted
[20:28] <michagogo> !animalname
[20:28] <ikonia> michagogo: what do you want ?
[20:28] <michagogo> What's 12.10 names?
[20:28] <michagogo> named*
[20:28] <ikonia> quantel
[20:28] <milamber> !12.10
[20:28] <poz> cries
[20:28] <Pici> !codenames
[20:29]  * michagogo gives ubottu a cookie
[20:29] <ikonia> michagogo: ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Andria> hi all, do you know how can i modify the top tray on unity under compiz-decorator ? I would like to have transparency. Ty
[20:29] <ikonia> michagogo: pretty obvious, lookin ubuntu.com to find out the latest distro
[20:29] <michagogo> Went there, didn't notice it
[20:29] <poz> I guess i could just restart my computer and see what happends
[20:30] <ariell> hi,
[20:30] <ariell> is there a way to launch the standby/hibernate commands from the commandline ?
[20:30] <poz> before ubuntu i thought stable was a objective descriptive term
[20:30] <zgnuu> Is it possible to uninstall the xubuntu session but not the xfce session?
[20:31] <billybob_>  Dec 19 16:24:29 108-171-201-222 postfix/smtp[21397]: 8C123160A12<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=mta7.am0.yahoodns.net[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25, delay=1.5, delays=0.01/0/0.16/1.3, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)
[20:31] <Andria> How can i change the Unity Global Menu ?
[20:31] <billybob_> doesnt tell me much hmm
[20:31] <llutz> billybob_: done " status=sent (250 ok dirdel)"
[20:32] <michagogo> Is there somewhere to file a suggestion? Namely, to add the normal servers as webseeds in the .torrents on ubuntu.com
[20:32] <milamber> zgnuu: can you be more specific?
[20:32] <tomreyn> billybob_: ^ means: this outbound mail was passed on to yahoo successfully
[20:32] <bobweaver> Is there a way in a *desktop* that I can have a use a command with out opening it up in a terminal ?
[20:32] <zgnuu> I recently installed xubuntu in Ubuntu 12.04
[20:32] <zgnuu> Now I'm getting 2 sessions that came from that xubuntu and xfce
[20:32] <ikonia> bobweaver: alt+f2
[20:32] <usr13> tim-ct: Correction:  That last line, may be wrong path, /usr/sbin/iptables prolly should be /sbin/iptables or just iptables
[20:32] <bobweaver> ikonia,  *DESKTOPFILE*
[20:33] <ikonia> bobweaver: be aware though there will be no shell enviornment setup
[20:33] <zgnuu> I'd like only the xfce session to be available from the drop down menu, so I want to uninstall xuubntu
[20:33] <RollinV2> bobweaver, also some of the text editors have built in terminals
[20:33] <bobweaver> ikonia,  like under /usr/share/applications/
[20:33] <ikonia> bobweaver: what ? you said is there a way in a desktop, alt+f2 will bring the "run" dialog box up
[20:33] <milamber> zgnuu: it's a meta package, so it's not really recommended
[20:33] <bobweaver> ikonia,  let me paste a example
[20:34] <usr13> zgnuu: just choose xfce4
[20:34] <usr13> zgnuu: Ignore the choice xubuntu and choose xfce4
[20:34] <TeamRocket1233c> Go with Xubuntu-session. Looks nicer.
[20:34] <bobweaver> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453227/
[20:35] <tomreyn> zgnuu: you can try this: sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-default-settings
[20:35] <bobweaver> ikonia,  I want to do what the file is doing but with out the terminal flashing on the screen for a milia second
[20:35] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: You can make it look however you want.
[20:35] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: True.
[20:35] <ikonia> bobweaver: it will depend on the command
[20:35] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: You can even make it look like 10.10.
[20:35] <ikonia> bobweaver: not everything will flash up a terminal I believe
[20:35] <bobweaver> ikonia,  there all gsettings commands
[20:35] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: How?
[20:36] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: But then you can do that with MATE too.
[20:36] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: Is mate gnome?
[20:36] <ikonia> bobweaver: don't believe you'll get around that
[20:36] <ikonia> mate is not advised
[20:36] <ikonia> as gnome 2 is dead
[20:36] <bobweaver> ikonia,  thansk
[20:36] <bobweaver> thanks *
[20:36] <RollinV2> mate is a fork of gnome 2 i think
[20:36] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: MATE's basically re-branded GNOME 2.
[20:36] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: But I find the default settings for the xfce4 login pretty close to my liking...
[20:37] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: Yea, that is pretty confusing, there is gnome-classic and gnome-panel and mate and ... well I dono.
[20:37] <YuriRev01> im trying to setup my ubuntu server so only i can read/write files to it
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: write files where ?
[20:38] <usr13> YuriRev01: Should be that way by default.
[20:38] <YuriRev01> through ssh
[20:38] <bobweaver> permissions | YuriRev01
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: what file systems
[20:38] <tomreyn> YuriRev01: you probably mean file transfer, right?
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: the root file system is owned by root..... your home directory is owned by you....where is the problem ?
[20:38] <YuriRev01> i can take files off the server through filezilla sftp but cannot write them back
[20:38] <usr13> tomreyn: He said ssh not scp  ;)
[20:39] <ikonia> YuriRev01: where ? what files are you taking
[20:39] <tomreyn> usr13: one more reason to ask ;)
[20:39] <usr13> YuriRev01: So your problem is with filezilla.  Right?
[20:39] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: http://namakutux.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-make-xfce-looks-like-gnome-2.html
[20:39] <YuriRev01> i need to write files to /var/www
[20:39] <Septima> .
[20:40] <usr13> YuriRev01: It will depend on what user is initiating the connection.
[20:40] <Septima> netsplits cause weird issues
[20:40] <RollinV2> YuriRev01 what user do you connnect with in filezilla
[20:40] <RollinV2> the user connecting must have write permissions
[20:40] <YuriRev01> the only one i have
[20:40] <ikonia> YuriRev01: ok, so you'll need to open up the permissions or add yourself to the correct group
[20:40] <YuriRev01> the main one set up to login to webserver
[20:41] <RollinV2> wait.. are you loging in as root?
[20:42] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: That's interesting.  Thank you.
[20:42] <YuriRev01> im logging in with the user i created for the webserver
[20:42] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: IDK if it'll work in 12.04 or 12.10, although it should.
[20:42] <tomreyn> YuriRev01: have you setup this server yourself? do you manage it? is it a managed server (by the company which also hosts it)?
[20:43] <YuriRev01> it sits next to me
[20:43] <usr13> YuriRev01: You know you could just serve from /home/TeamRocket1233c  and symlink to /var/www
[20:43] <RollinV2> usr13 what user owns the /var/www directories and files?
[20:43] <usr13> YuriRev01: Well, didn't say that right, but you know what I mean... RIght?
[20:43] <usr13> RollinV2: root
[20:43] <RollinV2> if root owns those files, you need to chown them to your user:group
[20:43] <tvfae> where is tchat channel plz
[20:43] <tvfae> somebone cna link tchat channel
[20:44] <ikonia> tvfae: we are not a yellow pages
[20:44] <ikonia> tvfae: please join #freenode and ask how to search for channels
[20:44] <YuriRev01> yes but how do i change apache to look in /home/user  rather than /var/www
[20:44] <RollinV2> tcfae you can bring up a list of active rooms with most modern irc clients
[20:44] <ikonia> YuriRev01: you don't want to do that
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01:  you will struggle to manage your server (judging by the level of experience you are showing)
[20:45] <YuriRev01> whats the best way to give me all access
[20:45] <YuriRev01> and yes im struggling lol
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01: you've been told 10 times
[20:45] <RollinV2> chown the var/www to your user:group
[20:45] <RollinV2> usr13 dont worry, its good you are trying to learn
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01: 1.) change the permissions to be more open in /var/www 2.) add your user to the group that owns /var/www
[20:46] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c:  sudo mv /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:46] <ikonia> YuriRev01: either of those will work
[20:46] <usr13> oops wrong nick
[20:46] <usr13> YuriRev01: sudo mv /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:47] <RollinV2> safer to copy site to public_html and then move orginal to backup location
[20:47] <RollinV2> never mv without backups
[20:47] <RollinV2> mv is destructive command
[20:47] <llutz> never do anything without backups
[20:47] <usr13> YuriRev01: or:  cp /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo rm -rf /var/www/My-Site ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:48] <usr13> RollinV2: Yea, your way may be simpler I guess.
[20:49] <RollinV2> not simpler, its safer
[20:49] <usr13> RollinV2: Works either way, but I like to leave permissions as they are.
[20:50] <RollinV2> thats the beauty of setting up a server, many methods to the same end goal
[20:51] <usr13> RollinV2: So just starting out, mkdir ~/public_html ; sudo ln -s /public_html /var/www/My-Site-Name  #And just work with ~/public_html files as you please.  No changing of permissions needed.
[20:51] <YuriRev01> ok
[20:52] <ikonia> YuriRev01: I advise you against that - but it's up to you
[20:52] <usr13> I just believe that is the reason for "FollowSymlinks"  in the first place.
[20:52] <YuriRev01> 0_0
[20:52] <RollinV2> the ln is an unessessary step
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: Against my method?
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: yes
[20:53] <RollinV2> you don't want the files linked like that
[20:53] <ikonia> I don't see the point of all this
[20:53] <RollinV2> ^
[20:53] <ikonia> just fix the permissions in /var/www
[20:53] <ikonia> that's it
[20:53] <ikonia> job done
[20:53] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: So you thing changing premissions to /var/www is better?
[20:53] <aspaceneedle> Ubuntu Tweak is reporting that I don't have enough free memory to report a bug to developers. I have 2gb of memory. zram is installed.
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: yes
[20:53] <YuriRev01> the server will jsut be hosting a web based rcon tool for game servers
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: or adding his user to the group
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: Why ?
[20:53] <llutz> usr13: if you want user-dirs, use http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
 just fix the permissions in /var/www   <-----this is what im wanting
[20:54] <ikonia> usr13: because ubuntus webserver setup is quite specific, one command and maintaining support seems better than an over the top symlinking setup
[20:54] <YuriRev01> thats the only thing i understand lol
[20:55] <RollinV2> YuriRev01 read up on the chown and chmod commands
[20:55] <RollinV2> go into terminal and type "man chown" or "man chmod" for starters
[20:55] <RollinV2> i think ubuntu wiki has good chown/chmod guide too
[20:55] <usr13> ikonia: Seems my way is simlier because by default, you'll ftp into /home/user dir    (or ssh... what ever).
[20:56] <ikonia> usr13: your way is nothing like it
[20:56] <MangoBoy> Does someone know where the pwm1 pwm2 files that sensors and fancontrol use are located on 11.04 or ev 12.04+ Thanks.