[00:00] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: what do u mean by your question?
[00:00] <fruit-dude> Zenitur what are the permissions for that folder?
[00:00] <racecar-56> i dont like 9.04a3
[00:00] <gAri-> anybody got problems with sockets in php5?
[00:00] <bdelin88> so no one knows
[00:00] <racecar-56> its too glitchy for me
[00:00] <racecar-56> its ok exept for the trouble with nvidia driver
[00:00] <bdelin88> bc in...yes... in windows, i could have done this in 30 seconds tops
[00:00] <bdelin88> why is this so difficult
[00:01] <pike_> sweetgum: sorry i wont be of much help
[00:01] <Zenitur> fruit, for home - 755, root, root. For all other dirs and cmake - 755, kdefour, users, -x
[00:01] <sd32> works your brain
[00:01] <phoenixz> Could anybody post an example here of a nautilus useragent string? Google messes up on this one
[00:02] <fruit-dude> Zenitur yes it looks like it's  a bug
[00:02] <cadman21> Rhosre: yeah I have the latest.. ok well thanks for the help.
[00:02] <vigo> I helped a friend install 8,04 on his laptop, he wants to use it as a sound mixer, is a musician, what program do you suggest?
[00:02] <joshmonarck> I'm a translator and need to convert an .ftm file to .tmx.  Any ideas?
[00:03] <micah> hello
[00:03] <joshmonarck> Convert .ftm to .tmx?
[00:03] <phoenixz> micah: hello too
[00:03] <CyberGabber> vigo: RoseGarden ?
[00:03] <Lucifer_Cat> Question: How well would xubuntu run on a 550Mhz P3 machine with 256 megs of ram?
[00:03] <vigo> Thank you
[00:03] <Zenitur> fruit-dude, Ubuntu 8.10, myself compiled kernel. Thank you
[00:03] <micah> wasap i just started ubuntu!!
[00:03] <pike_> Lucifer_Cat: adequate
[00:03] <rdw200169> vigo, look into ubuntu studio
[00:03] <micah> xubuntu
[00:03] <CyberGabber> vigo: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[00:03] <Lucifer_Cat> pike_, thanks!
[00:03] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello, not entirely an OS question but somethin new nagging me.  Firefox seems to open all windows in a 1/2 full-screen mode.  The menu bar & address bar remains, but it takes over my Gnome panels, etc
[00:03] <fruit-dude> welcome
[00:03] <pike_> Lucifer_Cat: ive setup alot of p3 xubuntu machines for media boxes
[00:03] <phoenixz> micah: congratulations..
[00:04] <[TK]D-Fender> Can't quite seem to find what I did to case this...
[00:04] <rdw200169> vigo, just about 99% of the help he will need can be found through those guys work: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[00:04] <etronik> hey all
[00:04] <sd32> 4 gigs of disk space
[00:04] <[TK]D-Fender> cause*
[00:04] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat it will run, not much you can expect from that but it will work
[00:04] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting sound "aplay -l" lists my hardware, but no sound, any ideas?
[00:04] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat clearly that's a low performance device
[00:04] <etronik> Does 8.04 server come with a default remote desktop server ? is there a guide for choosing setting up a remote desktop server under ubuntu ?
[00:04] <Lucifer_Cat> fruit-dude, i mostly want to do kernel stuff and web programming stuff on it
[00:05] <micah> so im have problems with installing programs for linux and i dont no much
[00:05] <Lucifer_Cat> well, not web programming specifically...
[00:05] <cadman21> has anyone worked with watching tv shows on ABC?
[00:05] <fruit-dude> waht tupe of programing?
[00:05] <Lucifer_Cat> i'd basically like the graphics mode to be adequate enough so that i can do irc and youtube on the side
[00:06] <micah> i need to put a driver for my wacom intous 3 and i found one and i dont no how to put it on
[00:06] <vigo> Thats the ticket rdw200169, and thank you also CyberGabber,,will install that to play with tonight.
[00:06] <Lucifer_Cat> fruit-dude, python, C/C++ and like
[00:06] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat, you can try running a live cd that will give you a glimpse if it
[00:06] <Lucifer_Cat> i figured. but the stupid pc has a broken drive :P so im trying it on my laptop and liking it.
[00:07] <fruit-dude> you'll have a better performance after the installation, better than live cd
[00:07] <Lucifer_Cat> i couldnt wait till i got the drive and found out for myself, so i just asked
[00:07] <fruit-dude> oh Lucifer_Cat
[00:07] <micah> anyone dual booting?? i am just for photoshop cs3
[00:07] <fruit-dude> me micah
[00:07] <lifenova> I do, micah
[00:08] <fruit-dude> what the problem micah
[00:08] <micah> xp seems so stupid to me know
[00:08] <micah> o
[00:08] <Lucifer_Cat> thanks, fruit-dude
[00:08] <fruit-dude> no problem Lucifer_Cat
[00:08] <Guest5941> marine1
[00:08] <rdw200169> vigo you don't have to install ubuntu-studio separately, you just need their metapackage (i think) it's like ubuntu-studio*
[00:08] <micah> i dont no how to install my driver for my wacom tablet and i found one for linux
[00:09] <[TK]D-Fender> Any thoughts for my Firefox sem-FS problem?
[00:09] <twiadpaws> lo guys
[00:10] <fruit-dude> micah what type of file did you download
[00:10] <fruit-dude> ?
[00:10] <twiadpaws> i got ubuntu on eee pc here, everything works fine but wlan
[00:10] <lifenova> [TK]D-Fender: I'm not really too sure about this, but just a thought; if you press F11, does Firefox go to the true full screen mode?
[00:10] <micah> i forgot i dont have it right now
[00:10] <fruit-dude> micah, heh :p
[00:10] <micah> i re installed xubuntu over it
[00:10] <pike_> twiadpaws: isnt wireless kinda essential for a netbook? :)
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: as I mentioned, first F1 goes to "full" sull-screen, #2 goes to "normal"
[00:11] <basti_> Zack zack deutsch :D
[00:11] <Guest5941> marine1
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: Like its an intermediate mode.
[00:11] <KDesk> Someone knows if something similar to opensuse's packman repository for ubuntu exists?
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: But there is no check on the FS under "View"
[00:11] <basti_> Hmm jemand deutsch hier?
[00:11] <lifenova> [TK]D-Fender: Oh, I see what you mean.... I really don't know, sorry :(
[00:12] <micah> also can u re-partition my drives i want more room for xubuntu
[00:12] <redvamp128> !de | basti:
[00:12] <Stormx2> Can anyone recommend a CD burner that supports playlists?
[00:12] <Lenin_Cat> my sound is repeating a nose
[00:12] <Lenin_Cat> I tryed restarting alsa
[00:14] <Guest5941> how do i add my newly created unallocated partition to my ext 3 when i boot thru livecd it still won't let me add or merge it
[00:14] <gez> Hi
[00:14] <elementz> i just installed  the newest nvidia driver from intrepid proposed repo: now x seems to not properly start anymore. wasn't there a way to automatically reonfigure the x-config?
[00:14] <gez> I'm having some troubles with gstreamer and ffmpeg. I get this when I launch Totem
[00:14] <gez> Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so': /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: ff_gcd
[00:14] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sudo fdisk -l
[00:15] <Stormx2> uhg. gnomebaker's playlist import always imports into a new session with a 20 minute CD selected by default.brasero outright segfaults or says that the files aren't supported
[00:15] <koshari> Stormx2 playlists are done in software
[00:15] <Stormx2> This is a pretty poor showing
[00:15] <Stormx2> koshari, orly?
[00:16] <Guest5941>  fruit-dude what do you want to see
[00:16] <fruit-dude> guest find the name of the new partition
[00:16] <nomingzi> where to get a flash player running under ubuntu 8.10 desktop on x64 system ? Adobe website has flash player for x86 system and not x64, please advise.
[00:17] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes
[00:17] <Guest5941> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[00:17] <Guest5941> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:17] <Guest5941> Disk identifier: 0x144d144d
[00:17] <Guest5941>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:17] <FloodBot1> Guest5941: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Guest5941> /dev/sda1   *           1        9657    77569821    7  HPFS/NTFS
[00:17] <cvx> whats the hotkey to start a program?
[00:17] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 then you can use this to mount it sudo mkdir /media/new_p
[00:17] <fruit-dude>  sudo echo /dev/<new_partition>    /media/new_p     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[00:17] <lifenova> cvx: alt+f2
[00:17] <steph291> hi everyone !
[00:17] <cvx> thankz
[00:17] <gez> nomingzi: You just want to have flash or you need a native 64bit flash player?
[00:17] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/78894-mounting-new-ext3-partition.html
[00:18] <steph291> I have a problem with virus in winxp, I reboot in livecd ubuntu desktop...
[00:18] <pike_> steph291: problem solved?
[00:18] <steph291> I'm wondering if I install avast for ubuntu I could get rid of it ?
[00:18] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i originally instealled thru windows(linux)
[00:18] <steph291> in a livecd session
[00:19] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, will this be a prolem
[00:19] <Stormx2> meh, gonna try this command-line burner
[00:19] <FlareDS> !antivirus | steph291
[00:19] <lifenova> steph291: Avast won't install onto Ubuntu, as it's a sindows program
[00:20] <lifenova> steph291: so you have to deal with virus problems in windows through windows :/
[00:20] <steph291> nonono, there's a deb package for ubuntu
[00:20] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you should be able to mount it automatically on places just a click
[00:20] <steph291> 27mb
[00:20] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 what's on that partition??
[00:20] <pike_> steph291: what about clamav??
[00:20] <DiDiVp> Hi
[00:20] <nomingzi> gez: i am not sure, just that I try to install the flash player from adobe website, but it prompted me that their player cannot under for x64. I do not care whether to use native player or not, but I just need to be able to view flash video when i browse internet. please advise. thanks
[00:20] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, yes but like i said earlier when i boot in livecd the ext3 file has a key on it and i can't merge the unallocated aprt to it
[00:20] <lifenova> steph291: But that's probably designed to look for Linux viruses, not windows
[00:20] <pike_> steph291: thats in the repos though ive never used it
[00:21] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 not sure what's your problem? if you have a data partition then you should mount it as it says on the mentioned link
[00:21] <etronik> Anybody recommend a good admin front-end for bacula, used from windows GUI or Web interface ??
[00:21] <pike_> steph291: nope most linux antivirus apps are designed to clean windows machines.
[00:21] <gez> nomingzi: Ubuntu should install the flash player for you automatically when you go to a website with flash movies
[00:21] <fruit-dude> steph291 you can try clamav
[00:21] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i used the remaining harddrive space from windows
[00:22] <gez> Just make sure you have Synaptic or the Update manager closed.
[00:22] <rdw200169> gez, that's related to firefox, not linux
[00:22] <lifenova> steph291: disregard what I said :/
[00:22] <rdw200169> gez, or ubuntu for that matter
[00:22] <DiDiVp> the most anti-virus for linux that I knew search vírus of windows
[00:22] <gez> rdw200169: Isn't this an Ubuntu channel?
 well, after getting the 64-bit java plugin from Sun working on my workstation at work, I can't repeat the feat at home
[00:23] <racecar-56> i got to help bdelin88 with his problem
[00:23] <rdw200169> gez, yes, but the feature you're reffering to is something that the mozilla guys would add, not ubuntu; regardless, install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras and some of your problems should be solved
[00:23] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 don't know
[00:23] <dsch04> It *seems* to be installed and working, but crashes when I access the java test page
[00:23] <racecar-56> its all solved
[00:23] <racecar-56> =D
[00:23] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, thanks
[00:23] <fruit-dude> np
[00:24] <DiDiVp> dsch04, did you manual install?
[00:24] <rdw200169> gez, that takes care of a lot of stuff, everything else can be easily found at ubuntuguide.org
[00:24] <filsuf> Obama at his orgamic time:
[00:24] <filsuf> http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/imgLib/20080801_obama_looking_up.jpg
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i didn't create a new ext3 that is my linux
[00:24] <dsch04> http://robinbowes.com/article.php/20090130132222337
[00:24] <jp_sf> gez: looking for Flash for ubuntu 8.10 on a x64 machine ? http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[00:24] <whisperkiller> how do i rename a file in commandline?
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i created a unallocated parttion
[00:24] <gez> rdw200169: I'm just trying to help nomingzi. I already have my native 64 bit plugin from adobe labs running
[00:24] <pike_> whisperkiller: mv file newfilename
[00:24] <dsch04> whisperkiller: mv
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit now i'm trying to merge it
[00:24] <filsuf> Obama uses WinFuck .... Bush uses MacOS ... wait until I'm president ... the first one to use linux
[00:24] <whisperkiller> thanks
[00:25] <lifenova> !language
[00:25] <rdw200169> gez, ah, i haven't been paying *too* much attention ;)
[00:25] <jp_sf> gez: ah sorry
[00:25] <fruit-dude> filsuf lol
[00:25] <micah> how do u install a theme manualy
[00:25] <gez> My problem is other... And it's a hard one :)
[00:25] <gez> My gstreamer got broken.
[00:25] <fruit-dude> micah gnome?
[00:25] <micah> yes
[00:26] <jp_sf> gez: what do you mean by broken ?
[00:26] <kernco> I just tried upgrading from the nvidia 177 to 180 driver, and now X won't start unless I switch to the vesa driver.  I can't even go back to the 177 driver.
[00:26] <gez> Apparently the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin can't be loadad
[00:26] <filsuf> Obama server runs Linux though!
[00:26] <filsuf> you know that?
[00:26] <fruit-dude> gez issue a reinstall
[00:26] <gez> So I can't view xvid, mov, flv
[00:26] <fruit-dude> sudo apt-get autoremove then re install it it should go okay
[00:26] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, the link you sent me is for a new ext3 not an existing one
[00:26] <nomingzi> gez  jp_sf, I think i know the problem - may be the website video require different kind of player, bcos I can play flash for other website, anyway many many for your help and guidance.
[00:26] <micah> do i drop the files in a folder and if so what file for the themes
[00:27] <gez> nomingzi: I think you already installed another player. probably swfdec or gnash.
[00:27] <sahak> How can I boot into Ubuntu netbook remix .img file stored on my HDD? I don't have a USB flash key.
[00:27] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 that's why I asked you to get the partition name from fdisk
[00:27] <jp_sf> gez: you have a error message something ?
[00:27] <gez> Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so': /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: ff_gcd
[00:28] <lifenova> micah: System -> Prefs -> Appearance, go to the Themes Tab, press Install and select the .tar.gz file you downloaded
[00:28] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i thought you read it when i posted it before
[00:28] <rdw200169> sahak, in short, you can't; that, or i've never heard of it; regardless, i doubt it.
[00:28] <micah> thank you!!!
[00:28] <gez> I already tried the obvious. Make sure that the gstreamer plugins, the livavcodec and other files are the right and remove any file from external repositories.
[00:28] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it's not showing on fdisk ut i see it in gparted
[00:29] <gez> I have the same files installled than the other machine that works fine, but I can't play those files
[00:29] <jp_sf> gez: did you checked that : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775943
[00:29] <sahak> rdw200169: thanks
[00:29] <fruit-dude> ok then do the fstab line
[00:29] <nomingzi> gez: yes, my PC is installed with swfdec, so what are you trying to tell me. pls advise thanks
[00:29] <fruit-dude> ok then do the fstab line  Guest5941
[00:30] <gez> nomingzi: THat's a free flash player. It hasn't the same support than the official, closed source flash player.
[00:30] <Guest5941> fruit-dude which one is the fsta line
[00:30] <Guest5941> fruit-dude,  my bbb key is going
[00:30] <gez> You should remove it, activate the partner repo from the "software origins" option and install the adobe-flashplayer package
[00:30] <Cpplus> gez, have you searched your driver for different versions of the library libavcodec
[00:31] <Cpplus> driver = mounts
[00:31] <sahak> I have a simple script that rsyncs daily jaunty .iso image, and then boots into it from my HDD, so that I can check out the latest features.
[00:31] <fruit-dude> new_partition>    /media/new_p     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[00:31] <gez> jp_sf: That's not my problem. Already checked
[00:31] <fruit-dude>  Guest5941 replace new_partition with path to the drive
[00:31] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, with gparted once you shrink the harddrive space itr creates a unallocated part that's what i'm trying to use
[00:32] <gez> Cpplus: I have. I tried the different versions available without luck
[00:32] <jp_sf> gez: so what libx do you have now ?
[00:32] <fruit-dude> Guest5941, never used gparted just manual mounting
[00:32] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, kind of to late for that
[00:32] <gez> jp_sf: _59
[00:32] <kerric_> are there anyone running ubuntu on a acer aspire one i have a question about the web cam.
[00:33] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, what are my options now
[00:33] <gez> I had another from a third party repo but I removed it.
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sorry I was always talking about manual mount
[00:33] <nomingzi> gez: is it due to swfdec (open source software) may not able to play some video and i should uninstall it and install the one suggested by jp_sf ?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> guest df -h?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 paste bin please
[00:33] <ronc> ciao
[00:33] <ronc> !list
[00:33] <CaneToad> What does this no buffer space available business mean?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you can always umount -l
[00:33] <CaneToad> root@vostro:~# ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:33] <CaneToad> SIOCSIFADDR: No buffer space available
[00:33] <CaneToad> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[00:33] <koshari> sahak thats a good idea
[00:33] <FloodBot1> CaneToad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <jp_sf> nomingzi: I didn't have a single problem running the proprietary software on x64
[00:34] <gez> nomingzi: You can install easily from synaptic (remember to activate the partner repo before) the adobe-flashplugin. It's the 32-bit version of the plugin but it works in 64-bit
[00:34] <gez> The x64 version is, afaik, a beta version
[00:34] <sahak> koshari: yes, it is better than booting into KVM, because I can make sure that all my hardware is working properly.
[00:35] <gez> It works much better than the 32 bit version, but it has to be installed manually.
[00:35] <koshari> sahak are the diffs big?
[00:35] <sahak> koshari: No, it only takes a couple of minutes to update daily .iso image.
[00:35] <gez> If "install it manually" sounds scary for you, probably you should stick to the 32-bit version that is available in the repos.
[00:35] <sahak> koshari: diffs are between 0 and 100MB in size
[00:36] <Freshy> evenin
[00:36] <Cpplus> gez, have you  tried this? http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/7d2e49127a35f92e/386d17df772b0a21?lnk=raot
[00:36] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111916/
[00:36] <nomingzi> gez: how do i "activate the partner repo" ?
[00:36] <jp_sf> gez could you pastebin: ldd /usr/lib/gstreamer-X.X/libgstffmpeg.so
[00:37] <jp_sf> gez: XX are for the version you have
[00:38] <Freshy> i need some help with cups in ubuntu 8.04, the driver is installed.. I used dpkg -l | grep Brother
[00:38] <Freshy>  to confirm
[00:38] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it doesn't look like it's mounted on anything it shows /
[00:38] <bombshel2er13> I have a module I'm writing with a large collection of functions like verbNown (makeCat,deleteCat,etc, hypothetically) and need to quickly and reliably add a bunchion of equivelant verbNounse methods (makeCats,deleteCats, etc) that basically just map the same function onto a list of arguments, instead of just one. Is there a `Proper'/'Pythonic' way to do this? Perhaps some sort of pluralizing function can be imported from something that already ex
[00:38] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 it's not mounted
[00:39] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sudo fdisk -l; sudo mount
[00:39] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, which one
[00:40] <tweak66> does anyone know a program gui to patch and compile a kernel?
[00:40] <jp_sf> bombshel1er13: a module ? in what language ?
[00:40] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 please issue those commands
[00:40] <fruit-dude> and paste bin them
[00:40] <fruit-dude> I'll write an script for you to mount that
[00:40] <Freshy> what is the user/pass for cups http://localhost:631/printers
[00:40] <tweak66> !kernel
[00:40] <zleap> not sure about compile, i know make xconfig (if its set up) wil help confgure it
[00:40] <zleap> or used to
[00:40] <steph291> calmav, good idea
[00:40] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i just did now what
[00:41] <steph291> *clamav
[00:41] <jp_sf> gez: did you ldd ?
[00:41] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 paste bin it to me
[00:42] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111917/
[00:42] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you missed the fdisk
[00:42] <mib_n52x55> Hello. I have a simple question. I'm looking for the newest build / update of Intrepid Ibex. It seems that the version for obvious download is months old, and would take tons of updates AFTER I install it. Is there a more recent build somewhere I'm missing?
[00:43] <sidewalk> is there any way to keep the desktop and still have different wallpapers for different workspaces?
[00:43] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, that was the first command i ussed then sudo mount
[00:43] <jp_sf> mib_n52x55: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:43] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 it's not listed at the pastebin
[00:44] <leeping2007> Hi there, I have IP masquerading and NAT enabled on my server, allowing my LAN computers to access the network.  However, I just connected a new one, and it's unable to see the outside world.  What do I have to restart?
[00:44] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, that was the first one i sent you
[00:44] <_DEL> I have a question about vbox, After i made it full size, what are the keys to make it a smaller window again?
[00:44] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111917/
[00:44] <Scunizi> _DEL: same.. ctrl f
[00:44] <_DEL> Scunizi, ty
[00:45] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, try this one  http://paste.ubuntu.com/111916/
[00:45] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 nope that's df -h
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> hello all
[00:45] <jp_sf> leeping2007: could describe it a little bit more you just connected a machine to what how is it related to your server ?
[00:45] <fruit-dude> GuaranaBOMB nice nick hello
[00:45] <aaroninfidel> anyone know anything about wine?
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> heh, uruguay dialup
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> must be bad bandwidth ;/
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> :(
[00:46] <ert3> does anyone know what it means when you get the message "This apt has supper cow powers"
[00:46] <fruit-dude> GuaranaBOMB indeed
[00:46] <jp_sf> aaroncampbell: yes a lot red white and so otherwise you could check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and also what is your problem ?
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> does oracle have a native linux installer for oracle 11G that will work flawlessly in Ubuntu 8.10
[00:46] <jp_sf> aaroncampbell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine I mean
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> or do i have to do all the sub-dependencies etc manually?
[00:46] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111919/
[00:46]  * steph291 is scanning for virus from Ubuntu LiveCD with avast ... on windows ntfs partitons, will see ...
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> the best URL i found that helps me w/ Oracle 11G on 8.10
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> is this:
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1355/installing-oracle-11gr1-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex
[00:47] <FloodBot1> GuaranaBOMB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <leeping2007> My client machine is connected to my server computer through a switch
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> anything more timely/efficient then that url? heh
[00:47] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, I'm not aaroncampbell.
[00:47] <Cpplus> ert3, apt-get moo
[00:47] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: my bad
[00:47] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111919/  try this
[00:48] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 yeah1
[00:48] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it looks like my linux is on /dev/sda5
[00:48] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine I mean
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> my lord
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> look at all the crap on that url
[00:48] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, anyway, the question I had was when I installed wine and installed programs using wine, it created a submenu in my menu called "Other" how can I remove the "other" menu?
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> to get oracle 11G running on 8.10
[00:49] <Bryan_Sierra> so I accidently removed a program in /usr/bin and now I can't remove it from apt-get because it's saying that the dependencies aren' tmet :o is there a way to just remove it manually? (Other than going directory by directory)
[00:49] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 in that case / is your partition
[00:49] <jp_sf> GuaranaBOMB: /join #oracle
[00:49] <guest5941> fruit-dude, so what do i do now
[00:50] <fruit-dude> guest5941 please pm me
[00:50] <Stargazer> I'm testing jaunty under VBox... where are shared folders located ?
[00:50] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: Not sure did you try to navigate in /home/<username>/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs
[00:51] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, I'll check, thanks!
[00:51] <surial> I follow all instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17272 to get a sox that can read and write mp3s, but no luck.
[00:52] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, thank you that worked your awesome!
[00:52] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: cool
[00:53] <steph291> avast for linux found virus on my ntfs partition :P
[00:54] <gez> jp_sf:
[00:54] <gez> I'm back
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: cool
[00:54] <gez> It's long
[00:54] <gez> And it has no errors
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez : libx something no ?
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: could you pastebin it ?
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: I'm like saint thomas want to check that it is not looking for something -56 or -57
[00:55] <koshari> Stargazer you need to allocate shared folders in vbox
[00:55] <koshari> Stargazer on your hist machine
[00:55] <koshari> host
[00:55] <gez> http://pastebin.com/m6d4312d7
[00:55] <gez> It's looking for the right: -59
[00:56] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf do you know anything about Cedega?
[00:56] <emma> has anyone else seen this Netx open source JNLP client pop up when browsing with firefox in intrepid?
[00:56] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: nope sorry
[00:56] <emma> It asks to choose a Cache directory.
[00:56] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, thanks anyway. :)
[00:56] <Stargazer> Koshari: i've designated the folder path for which i wish to share with my guest OS.
[00:56] <Alex_21> Does anyone know about PPC Sound Drivers. I get no sound from my Powermac's speaker
[00:56] <Alex_21> Please
[00:57] <emma> A popup while browsing is not a good thing. It's very suspicious and it encourages foolish behavior.
[00:57] <Alex_21> Ensure that pop
[00:57] <Buttons> hi
[00:57] <Alex_21> Pop-up blocker is on
[00:57] <unkmar> firestarter did not work for me.
[00:57] <Gerinych> how do i repair a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[00:57] <gez> jp_sf: http://pastebin.com/m6d4312d7
[00:57] <jp_sf> gez: hum yes, you don't have a more explicit long error
[00:57] <unkmar> Gerinych: you don't.
[00:58] <adam__> do I need to be using a firewall (firestarter) when using ubuntu?
[00:58] <Gerinych> unkmar: so... what do i do then?
[00:58] <tag> did an ACPI patch come out recently?
[00:58] <Alex_21> Hi, Any help with PPC issues. I Googled, but didn't find anything
[00:58] <unkmar> Gerinych: you repair NTFS from a functional windows.  Barts PE is one option.
[00:58] <Alex_21> Anything at all?
[00:58] <savvas> adam__: it depends on how you use ubuntu
[00:58] <adam__> general computer use via a secure wireless network
[00:58] <koshari> Stargazer you should be able to see tha share as a network location
[00:58] <koshari> on the guest
[00:59] <jp_sf> gez: on synaptic x264 is selected ?
[00:59] <Bsims> OK this is bad I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[00:59] <unkmar> Gerinych: it also advised not to mount NTFS in ubuntu as writable.  Use it read-only
[00:59] <Cloaker> i have a problem with rsync and truecrypt here on ubuntu 8.04
[00:59] <gez> x264 alone or libx264?
[00:59] <Waldo> Hello all. I have some folders on another computer on my network that are set to be inaccessible without the user password. But Nautilus doesn't give me the option of entering the password, just an error message saying I don't have permission. Any way to change that?
[00:59] <savvas> adam__: any kind of server is good and recommended to have as much protection as possible, a desktop user doesn't need it so much, especially with quick patches provided nowadays
[00:59] <gez> Anyway, I've tried with both, with and without it
[00:59] <jp_sf> gez: I mean on synaptic if you search x264 what is mark installed ?
[00:59] <gez> And nothing hapeans
[00:59] <adam__> savvas: okay, thanks savvas
[00:59] <gez> Yes, yes. It's installed, of course.
[00:59] <koshari> Waldo mount through fstab
[01:00] <savvas> adam__: if you don't have any shared folders, I think you 're more than enough secure :)
[01:00] <Alex_21> I have no sound. That isn't good since I am blind and depend on speech
[01:00] <gez> I made sure that every related packages are installed (i've checked one by one in another computer)
[01:00] <Waldo> koshari: fstab?
[01:00] <Alex_21> PPC Powermac G4 Digital Audio
[01:00] <Cloaker> When i mount a truecrypt volume and use rsync on it 2 times, it copies all the files 2 times. But it should only copy the files in the first run and not in the second, because the files should allready be in sync. Can anyone help me with this problem?
[01:00] <koshari> Waldo fstab is where all your mount points are located
[01:00] <koshari> !fstab
[01:01] <adam__> savvas: no I'm not sharing, but I am curious. Is it possible to terminal to my linux box from my windows machine? I want to treat it like I'm logging into a remote unix box for learning
[01:01] <Bsims> Critcial help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:01] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:01] <Alex_21> Use Sigwin to access Windows via Terminal
[01:01] <unkmar> adam__: you can ssh from a windows machine via putty.
[01:01] <Alex_21> Sigwin isn't the correct spelling
[01:01] <koshari> adam__ i suspect using putty you could ssl into linux and issue a runtime change
[01:01] <savvas> adam__: sure, you can use a program named putty - if you have installed ssh server on linux that is
[01:02] <unkmar> Alex_21: Cygwin is the correct spelling.
[01:02] <adam__> savvas: perfect, i can handle that. thanks guys
[01:02] <jonathan_> When I attempt to update my update manager, I get an error of "No public key" for my itrepid Ibex. How to solve?
[01:02] <Alex_21> He wants it the other way around I think
[01:02] <Alex_21> Is that right?
[01:02] <jonathan_> yes.
[01:02] <gez> Alex_21: did you check this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-302476.html
[01:02] <TuxSympathiser> what does CPU1 attaching sched-domain: mean?
[01:03] <savvas> adam__: on the other hand, if you need a "linux" inside windows, you can install cygwin which provides a package for ssh client :)
[01:03] <jp_sf> gez: and even vlc is having a problem right ?
[01:03] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:03] <luke> ubuntu 8.10
[01:03] <gez> Yes
[01:03] <unkmar> Alex_21: to go the other way.  I use VNC. but that isn't a terminal.
[01:03] <gez> jp_sf: VLC has the same problem. Complains about missing codecs
[01:04] <jp_sf> adam_ savvas: try AndLinux
[01:04] <jp_sf> gez: could you start vlc from the command line to paste all the error message ?
[01:04] <adam__> savvas: well im trying to teach myself to work from the shell via a great book, Ive just been working in the terminal on ubuntu, but I thought I could make it more 'real world' by trying to log in to real terminal
[01:04] <tweak66> Hi. I'm trying to compile/patch a kernel. i'm using kernelcheck. when my compilation stops and it asks me for a patch in the cli how do i apply it?
[01:05] <jp_sf> adam_ savvas: http://www.andlinux.org/
[01:05] <unkmar> gez: vlc > error.log
[01:05] <savvas> jp_sf: that's too much for what adam__ asked for :) he just wanted a terminal/ssh client
[01:05] <Waldo> koshari: I don't see the other computer in the fstab file. I assume I'd add it and set permissions there?
[01:05] <unkmar> though I doubt that will work. :(
[01:05] <adam__> that is, if im making any sense
[01:05] <gez> jp_sf:  and unkmar: ok :)
[01:05] <jp_sf> savvas: yeah but it is a good introduction to Linux
[01:05] <savvas> adam__: you have a dozen of free shell account services floating around the internet
[01:05] <jonathan_> Here's the error message: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[01:05] <Bsims> EMERGENCY Help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:05] <adam__> savvas: really? wow can you recommend a good one?
[01:06] <savvas> adam__: er.. hold a sec
[01:06] <Alex_21> Ok, I looked, and I'll try external speakers now
[01:06] <jp_sf> gez unkmar : yeah gez you tease us but we don't have much information right
[01:06] <koshari> Waldo correct you need to make a line up to mount the remote to a local placeholder
[01:06] <Alex_21> Thanks
[01:06] <gez> jp_sf: I'm reinstalling VLC
[01:07] <leeping2007> I'm getting a strange error when my client tries to connect to the network.  It says: "dh-client-script permission denied"
[01:07] <gez> Please wait a minute.
[01:07] <koshari> Waldo you nay need a credentuals file to store pw and username in
[01:07] <leeping2007> Anyone seen this error before?
[01:07] <gez> I uninstalled every possible problematic package to start over
[01:07] <unkmar> leeping2007: running as root?
[01:07] <leeping2007> rather "dhcp-client-script permission denied" ... I am running as root.  My other client machines do not have this problem
[01:08] <misieq> !seen abcd
[01:08] <leeping2007> Tried rebooting, restarting network services on the server ..
[01:08] <Waldo> koshari: Thanks, I'll give it a shot later. Kind of disappointing; Dolphin asks for the password just fine.
[01:08] <savvas> adam__: try from these lists: http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml http://www.bylur.net/free/
[01:08] <adam__> savvas: perfect, a million thanks savvas
[01:09] <savvas> adam__: they may not be debian or ubuntu, but the shell is really similar :)
[01:09] <austin_> hey guys could someone help me out just installed ubuntu and im trying to install a theme
[01:09] <unkmar> leeping2007: my other thought is a script that isn't set to executable. :/
[01:09] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:09] <austin_> i downloaded the max osx theme
[01:09] <austin_> how to i install it?
[01:09] <lifenova> austin_: you're using gnome, correct?
[01:09] <austin_> i think
[01:10] <austin_> and i just installed compiz also
[01:10] <luke> specifically, the shift key wont work and some other combinations wont?
[01:10] <Bsims> I need a guru's help please...
[01:10] <Bsims> EMERGENCY Help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed. I am on ubuntu
[01:10] <savvas> adam__: in case you end up looking how to install and use SSH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:11] <unkmar> Bsims: did the upgrade include a new kernel?  You might be able to reboot using the old kernel listed in grub.
[01:11] <leeping2007> unkmar, if I "ls -ltr" the file, it shows up as red .. this mean anything to you?
[01:11] <austin_> whyen i drag and drop i get this
[01:11] <austin_> "OSX Leopard" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[01:11] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I did a quick search for the error you have posted --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486843
[01:11] <leeping2007> It's set to executable for owner and group
[01:11] <lifenova> austin_: what type of file is it
[01:11] <austin_> .tar.gz
[01:11] <unkmar> leeping2007: yeah, background read means executes as root from any user.
[01:11] <unkmar> *background red.
[01:11] <Bsims> unkmar: not rebooted yet, I can't get apt to finish installing it
[01:12] <leeping2007> unkmar, when I chgrp'ed it, the red went away :P I don't know how to set it back, heh
[01:12] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I am not knowing using xemacs
[01:12] <unkmar> leeping2007: chmod 7777 filename
[01:13] <gez> jp_sf: [00000420] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `avc1'.
[01:13] <gez> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[01:13] <Bsims> exodus_ms: and I can't remove anything as apt is broken... though i suppose I could try dpkg
[01:13] <leeping2007> unkmar, thanks :)
[01:13] <gez> The error log was empty
[01:13] <gez> when I did vlc > error.log
[01:13] <exodus_ms> Bsims: have you tried   dpkg --configure -a
[01:14] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[01:14] <Alex_21> Good night
[01:14] <Alex_21> Actually
[01:14] <unkmar> gez: I don't remember the magic trick...  Might be vlc &2 > error.log
[01:14] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:14] <FloodBot1> Alex_21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <jp_sf> gez: hum ... no not from vlc...
[01:15] <unkmar> gez: what you are looking to do is redirect the error output to stdin for redirection to file.
[01:15] <jp_sf> gez: can I be annoying ? could you rm -rf ~/.vlc (if it is safe for you) desinstall vlc re rm -rf ~/.vlc then reinstall vlc
[01:15] <unkmar> luke: I wish I could help.
[01:15] <X1karr0usX> if anyone has any outstanding issue that hasn't been dealt with, send me a private message
[01:15] <TheMusicGuy> What is this: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[01:15] <gez> jp_sf: It's the first I did.
[01:16] <unkmar> gez:  or mv ~/.vlc ~/.vlc.bak
[01:16] <gez> Remove totem and VLC, their config directories and reinstalled them
[01:16] <jp_sf> gez: all video or just one specific ?
[01:16] <gez> Any xvid, mov, flv video.
[01:17] <leeping2007> heh, I found out what the problem was.  That was weird
[01:17] <gez> No problems with oggs, for instance.
[01:17] <unkmar> leeping2007: do tell.
[01:17] <leeping2007> The "group" for call-dhclient-script is supposed to be "dhcp"
[01:17] <leeping2007> When I looked at the file properties it had changed to "syslog"
[01:17] <Bsims> exodus_ms: not yet I got it semi stable now its screaming it can't dpkg: error processing libxine1-bin (--configure): package libxine1-bin is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:17] <Bsims> dpkg: error processing hal-info (--configure): package hal-info is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:17] <Bsims> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[01:17] <leeping2007> the reason being: In an attempt to clone the system I had scp'd the "hosts, group, shadow, passwd" files over from the master
[01:18] <leeping2007> and so the group definitions were changed
[01:18] <leeping2007> I have no idea what else got F-ed up :P heh
[01:18] <exodus_ms> Bsims: what version of Ubuntu
[01:18] <unkmar> leeping2007: oh,  user numbers shifted.
[01:18] <gez> jp_sp: mpgs work
[01:18] <Bsims> exodus_ms: intrepid
[01:19] <unkmar> leeping2007: you would have been better off to change the user numbers to match the appropriate file.  group?
[01:19] <Bsims> exodus_ms: and I just tried apt-get install --reinstall
[01:19] <TheMusicGuy> Apparently a certain v4l-related .so file is supposed to exist on my system, but it doesn't. Any ideas?
[01:19] <exodus_ms> Bsims: what version of dpkg
[01:19] <leeping2007> unkmar, the problem is I forgot to back up my "group" file.  I'm predicting that I have to reinstall to get the old file back
[01:19] <Bsims> I dunno what ever is current on Intrepid let me look
[01:19] <unkmar> leeping2007: not my point.
[01:19] <leeping2007> unless of course there's a table of what the new numbers are supposed to be
[01:20] <X1karr0usX>  if anyone has any outstanding issues that hasn't been dealt with, send me a private message.
[01:20] <Bsims> exodus_ms: 1.14.20ubuntu6
[01:20] <unkmar> X1karr0usX: luke has a problem.
[01:20] <X1karr0usX> ty
[01:21] <leeping2007> unkmar, here's my interpretation.  My master computer has an old operating system (Gutsy) while the client machine has Hardy
[01:21] <jp_sf> gez: Ok I don't know
[01:21] <Bsims> exodus_ms: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:21] <Bsims> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:21] <Bsims> Aborted
[01:22] <X1karr0usX> luke: check your private chat if you are not AFK
[01:22] <exodus_ms> Bsims: did you try that
[01:22] <leeping2007> because the new OS has different user numbers as defined in "group", when I copied the file over the usernames all got shuffled around
[01:22] <Bsims> Yeah and it errors out on me with dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[01:22] <gez> jp_sf: I wanted to avoid re-installing. But It seems it will be my first time.
[01:22] <leeping2007> unkmar, is that closer to the truth?
[01:22]  * Bsims is tempted to dump a list of packages installed and say hell with it and install Momma Debian
[01:22] <unkmar> leeping2007: exactly.  I don't know an easy solution.  My concern is that many other files may suffer the same fate.
[01:23] <gez> I won't let my Windows friends know it :p
[01:23] <jp_sf> gez: I know that I tried the kde-nightly build a week ago I run into similar problem I desinstall all kde related stuff and my vlc played videos again
[01:23] <kozhy> hi, somebody with a ".config" of a macbook v3.1 (Santa rosa) ??? thks
[01:23] <jp_sf> gez: honnestly you have to find what is causing this, it is just a matter to find the right library or pkg no need to reinstall
[01:23]  * Bsims curses under my breath... sad part is I don't even know what broke it
[01:23] <gez> jp_sf: My problems started with KDEnlive, I think
[01:24] <leeping2007> unkmar, that's exactly what I'm worried about.  I may have to reinstall because I don't know how the numbers got changed ...
[01:24] <gez> But I removed everything from it
[01:24] <Bsims> Surely I can't be the only one in this boat
[01:24] <leeping2007> it's not a big deal.  I barely installed it and started changing stuff :P
[01:24] <O__o> hello, how to set ubuntu so that user login is automatic??
[01:24] <gez> I deactivated the third party repos
[01:24] <Cpplus> Bsims, have you tried --force-depends
[01:24] <DrMitch> so ubuntu keeps freezing my computer, to the point of numlocks not working, mouse not working. NOTHING working, display even freezes if something is happening. I've search multiple forums but no one has seemed to pin it down. Is there a log file that should tell me what is cauing the problem? I've already searched syslog and message and dmesg :-(
[01:24] <jp_sf> gez: while having desinstall all kde components I still had problems until I depkg all pkg related to it and then it was working again
[01:24] <alchemist1> I think aoutomatic user login is under preferences, let me check.
[01:25] <unkmar> O__o: alchemist1: under Administrtion, Login
[01:25] <Bsims> Cpplus: as an option to dpkg or to apt
[01:25] <gez> You just removed the packages from apt and it worked again?
[01:25] <alchemist1> never mind, it is under administration in user and groups, I think.
[01:26] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I have looked and there seems to be a fair amount of people suggesting this: removing gxine allowed me to run "dpkg --configure -a" without this assertion. Then I reinstalled gxine. Take a look at the bottom of this link --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/dpkg/+bug/262451
[01:26] <unkmar> O__o: alchemist1: System, Administration, Login Window, Security tab.
[01:27]  * unkmar runs away now.  Bye folks
[01:27] <jp_sf> gez: yes but I didn't troobleshhot too much when I saw my vlc wasn't working on a live streaming I was pretty upset I removed my .vlc nothing then without much troubleshooting (didn't had time for that it was a live video) I depkg all the kde related stuff as I run gnome anyway ... and It worked again after reinstalling vlc
[01:27] <alchemist1> oh, sorry, I had it enabled by default is is under login window...
[01:28] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I appriciate your help but still get this : dpkg: error processing hal-info (--configure): package hal-info is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:28] <leeping2007> In the /etc directory, there's a passwd file and a group file.  Does the passwd file contain all of the information that's in the group file?
[01:29] <gez> But you had problems only with vlc or with totem as well? (VLC is QT4 based now)
[01:29] <jp_sf> gez: http://kdenlive.org/forum/warning-regarding-ubuntu-ffmpeg-packages
[01:30] <exodus_ms> Bsims: did you try  sudo dpkg --remove gxine    sudo dpkg --configure -a    sudo apt-get install gxine
[01:30] <leeping2007> If I change the user numbers as defined in "group" and "passwd", will it mess up the passwords in "shadow"?
[01:30] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: No passwd doesn't store group information atall afaik, also its possible to have groups belonging to groups
[01:30] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, wow, mindboggling. :)  Thanks
[01:30] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with <IP_ADDRESS> as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me
[01:30] <jp_sf> gez: looks like awfully like your problem it upgrades ffmpeg ? that might be why you are stuck in this problem
[01:30] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Its fine to modify it by hand
[01:31] <nickrud> leeping2007, what's your purpose, you might get better advice
[01:31] <Bsims> exodus_ms: trying it now
[01:31] <exodus_ms> Bsims: ok
[01:31] <leeping2007> nickrud, I'm administering a Beowulf cluster and I'm adding some new computers to it.  They are to have a newer OS than the existing computers.  Now, to get the user info over to the new computers, I usually copy over the four files: hosts, group, passwd, shadow.
[01:32] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, thanks :))
[01:32] <Bsims> exodus_ms: its whining about hal-info
[01:32] <Bsims> and removing that means removing most of my system
[01:32] <loa_dude> yo. what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:32]  * Bsims is gonna try intalling hal-info with dpkg
[01:32] <gez> jp_sf: It seems related with ffmpeg
[01:32] <nickrud> leeping2007, just use caution :)
[01:33] <leeping2007> nickrud, about 30 minutes ago when I attempted to copy these files over, my DHCP instantly stopped working, and I figured that it was because the "group" attribute of the "call-dhclient-script"  got changed
[01:33] <exodus_ms> Bsims:   sudo dpkg -r hal hal-info
[01:33] <gez> But I already reinstalled every package related to ffmpeg and it still doesn't work.
[01:33] <exodus_ms> Bsims: sudo aptitude reinstall
[01:33] <Bsims> exodus_ms: that did it
[01:33] <Bsims> exodus_ms: dpkg install and I had already tried apt-get install --reinstall
[01:33] <leeping2007> nickrud, you're right.  I should have backed up the "group" file
[01:34] <exodus_ms> Bsims: so what is the status
[01:34] <leeping2007> Now I have to reinstall my system because I think I snafu'd it
[01:34] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Its important that the gid and uid numbers are the same since those are what is stored on the filesystem
[01:34] <laughyn1nj4> can intrepid be installed as dual boot side by side w/ windows?
[01:34] <loa_dude> hello...  what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:34] <lifenova> laughyn1nj4: yes
[01:34] <Dexi> Hey guys can anyone help me out, i cant find a single skype setting that works for my headset...
[01:34] <Bsims> exodus_ms: currently after an apt-get update and upgrade 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. no errors
[01:34] <t_> Hello?
[01:34] <t_> Anyone here?
[01:34] <laughyn1nj4> intrepid hates me
[01:34] <nickrud> leeping2007, if it's just gid's, you can restore by editing those files by hand.
[01:34] <exodus_ms> Bsims: so everything is cool?
[01:34] <leeping2007> nickrud, I don't know what the old gid's are
[01:35] <Bsims> exodus_ms: so its definately hal-info... but how to I write the bug report
[01:35] <weatherkid_> leeping2007: And if you did kill your system always you a alt. cd's recovery mode first
[01:35] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I'd say critical... breaks apt unless manualy installed
[01:35] <exodus_ms> Bsims: there is already one here --> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/53727
[01:35] <nickrud> leeping2007, the ls -l call-dhclient-script should show a number if there's no associated group. the gid is what is physically associated with the file
[01:35] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, right .. I don't want to change the numbers.  However, to add new users I should just modify the "group" and "passwd" files carefully
[01:35] <mitcheloc> hello, i'm having an issue with ubuntu, X isn't starting and i'm being told "Fatal error: no screens found"
[01:35] <weatherkid_> t_: what is the problem
[01:35] <nickrud> leeping2007, then you'd edit group to match
[01:36] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh never thought I'd need to install apt-bugreports on ubuntu
[01:36] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: You could try and track down a file owned by the group, DHCP might have a leases directory or some such
[01:36] <dsch04> Can I remove a package but not remove any dependencies ?
[01:36] <leeping2007> Ah I see.  I'm already reinstalling, but I'll remember the advice for later :))
[01:36] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007:
[01:36] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, at this point it's actually easier for me to reinstall.  I've installed pretty much nothing on that computer so far
[01:36]  * Bsims knows its a lifesaver on Debian Sid but Satan's blue testes I thought it was a bit more tested than that
[01:36] <leeping2007> I have the network boot set up so it works out well
[01:37] <exodus_ms> Bsims: there might be more info elsewhere, that bug I just linked you was posted 12-07-2008
[01:37]  * Bsims bows to your superior google foo exodus_ms
[01:37] <weatherkid_> lol
[01:37] <nickrud> leeping2007, you might find it worth your while learning the adduser deluser usermod useradd commands for next time :)
[01:37] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: If your doing a cluster it might be worth looking at setting up a proper central login system with LDAP or whatever
[01:37] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh reminds me... need to rsync my box again
[01:38] <gez> jp_sf: Well, thank you very much for your time. I guess I'll keep trying for a couple of hours and I'll reinstall if I can't get it to work. I'd like to solve it in the right way and avoid reinstalling, but it already took too much time and I have work to do.
[01:38] <leeping2007> nickrud, I've used the "adduser" command before, but that requires the user to actually be present to type in their info
[01:38]  * Bsims used to do weekly rdiff-backups but ye gods and little fishes is rdiff slow
[01:38] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I got a couple of links on that as well, just kidding :P
[01:38] <gez> CU, bye!
[01:38] <nickrud> leeping2007, ? You can fake it, put an expiry on the password and force them to re enter a new one?
[01:39]  * Bsims grins at exodus_ms so once a week I do a sync and montly to a delete on the mirror side
[01:39] <leeping2007> True :P I can certainly do that
[01:39] <weatherkid_> Does anyone need any help?
[01:39] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh I got started with Linux back in 1999
[01:39] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, I usually just serve the home directory over NFS and put each computer's public key into the $HOME/.ssh directory
[01:39] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Try the useradd command instead, it doesn't ask for details
[01:39] <laughyn1nj4> can anyone hlep me with the manual partitioner in the intrepid install?
[01:39] <nickrud> leeping2007, but for long term stability and maintainability Type3Singularity's advice about ldap is better
[01:40] <jp_sf> gez: still here ?
[01:40] <Bsims> Ran sid till 2001ish and at the time stable was Potato and well my frankenbox was newer than testing and Sid was uninstallable so I kinda drifted to Ubuntu
[01:40] <jp_sf> gez: have a look into clonezilla to barebone your system
[01:40] <leeping2007> hm .. I should look it over. Thanks. :)
[01:40] <nickrud> but we're a bit off topic now ....
[01:40] <Type3Singularity> although im not sure how much use an account with a null password is
[01:40] <gez> jp_sf: Good idea. Thank you.
[01:40] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, the useradd command looks like what I want.  I'm guessing I could type in the encrypted password as-is, without knowing the actual password
[01:40]  * Bsims winks at exodus_ms I am debating going back to Momma Debian but I have grown to like the polish this latest fiasco not withstanding
[01:41] <laughyn1nj4> what should i put as the mount point of my Ubuntu partition?
[01:41] <gez> laughyn1nj4: /
[01:41]  * Bsims looks all tough maybe once I order a second 1tb drive
[01:41] <laughyn1nj4> ok...thanks.  any idea why there are so many choices?   seems like / is the one and only right answer.
[01:42]  * Bsims says one for porn/music, one for /home
[01:43] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh I just don't want to build/reinstall things I am missing
[01:43] <Type3Singularity> Bsims: porn/music get a dedicated server which exports over the network in my house, also the porn is and encrypted loopback partition ;)
[01:43] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with <IP_ADDRESS> as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me
[01:43] <nickrud> laughyn1nj4, for other partition mount points; using a separate partition on /home can be very useful
[01:43] <ianm_> is some other action needed after adding a line to /etc/hosts like "<IP_ADDRESS> domain.com" ?  it doesn't work in firefox
[01:43] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[01:43] <Bsims> Type3Singularity: a man after my own heart
[01:44] <laughyn1nj4> i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that / is where a partition should be mounted   .... doesnt / exist on a partition?  why then is a partition mounted to /   ?
[01:44] <munk> hi all, anyone know where to ask about bridging wlan0 to a tap?
[01:44] <nickrud> laughyn1nj4, just a difference in perspective, both mean the same thing
[01:44]  * Bsims grins most porn is on disk some is external and ecrypted via truecrypt via hidden container
[01:44] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[01:45] <Bsims> laughyn1nj4: / is the top most directory think / as /C on windows
[01:45] <rootforce> what you perceive as a directory structure is more like a tree with storage hanging off of it
[01:45] <Pyles17> what do i have to do to install ubuntu on a powerpc mac?
[01:45] <nickrud> !ppc
[01:45] <mercutio22> hi, how can I check a disk for defects?
[01:45] <munk> Fertech: I think the 2GB is for your partition table
[01:45] <Bsims> laughyn1nj4: most drives are shoved under /media/disk-whatever
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Fertech: I assume you mean 318,7GB. 320 GB specification by HDD manufacturers is based on 1000 KB = B, not 1024
[01:46] <Pyles17> nickrud: thanks
[01:46] <Bsims> mercutio22: fdisk
[01:46] <Bsims> er fsck
[01:46] <Bsims> Sorry you want fsck
[01:46] <inflex> why does Ubuntu have an obsession with changing my Firefox paper type back to US-letter all the time?  The printer is configured as A4, everything I can see is A4... but Ubuntu keeps on changing Firefox back to US-Letter!
[01:46] <laughyn1nj4> m'kay :)
[01:46] <timecist> that's what she said
[01:46] <mercutio22> Bsims> thanks
[01:46] <Bsims> mercutio22: do you know what the partiion type is?
[01:46] <O__o> "ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' <----- what does the -t does here ??
[01:47] <Bsims> mercutio22: I'd run man fdisk before I did anything
[01:47]  * inflex thinks it's sad that an African-orientated distribution of linux has the compulsion to set paper types to one that only a tiny fraction of the world uses :(
[01:47] <WebcamWonder> inflex: I think that is more of an obsession with Firefox rather than Ubuntu. Do you have any reason to assume it is Ubuntu doing it?
[01:47] <weatherkid_> inflex: did you setup CUPS
[01:47] <Bsims> mercutio22: always good to read the manual
[01:47] <inflex> WebcamWonder: it only happens on my ubuntu machines
[01:47] <munk> whats a good channel to ask about networking in linux?
[01:47] <inflex> Slackware box is fine, likewise Mandrake and SuSE
[01:47] <Fertech> oh ok
[01:47] <O__o> ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' <---- and what -localhost and -display :0 do here?
[01:47] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Ahh. I take what I said back, it is Ubuntu's fault then :p
[01:47] <mercutio22> Bsims> NTFS
[01:47] <Bsims> munk: here as as good as anywhere though #linuxhelp is usefull
[01:47] <inflex> Of course, maybe WebcamWonder it's the "mix" of the two?
[01:48] <inflex> weatherkid_: yes, CUPS is setup
[01:48] <weatherkid_> munk: i may try #linuxforums
[01:48] <laughyn1nj4> i've installed and re-installed ibex on this thing so many times i'm msure the hd will fail
[01:48] <Bsims> mercutio22: Hrm try booting of your install cd for windows and running chdisk
[01:48] <Bsims> er scandisk or whatever the name is these days
[01:48] <Bsims> Not really done much with ntfs on linux
[01:49] <munk> I am trying to bridge my wlan0 to tap0 using brctl but I cant access the internet through either interface after, anyone know why?
[01:49] <esworp> hello from a  freshly instlled
[01:49] <esworp> er
[01:49] <WebcamWonder> inflex: I have noticed the same bug, but don't print as often to actually get bothered by it. You should file a bug with launchpad
[01:49] <mercutio22> Bsims> its an external HD. Do you still think its necessary?
[01:49] <inflex> WebcamWonder: good idea.
[01:49] <esworp> that was going to say : hello from a freshly install ubuntu-running OLPC... :/
[01:50] <loa_dude>  what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> loa_dude: gnome-volume-manager
[01:51] <step21_> esworp: hello back  ...
[01:51] <wers> i can hear myself on the speaker whenever i speak on the mic but the sound isn't detected on skype. any idea?:)
[01:51] <Bsims> mercutio22: well ntfs is still kinda flaky
[01:51] <Bsims> mercutio22: do you dual boot?
[01:51] <step21_> wers: change audio device in skype?
[01:51] <mercutio22> Bsims> yes I do
[01:52] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with <IP_ADDRESS> as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me
[01:52]  * Bsims smiles I prefer fat32 or ext3 for external drives to ntfs
[01:52] <loa_dude> thx WebcamWonder. is there a config file that controls the umask of files when mounted?
[01:52] <mercutio22> Bsims> I will do that then.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> mercutio22: NTFS scanning tools are much better on Windows because NTFS is essentially implemented by Microsoft first. You should be able to acheive a better filesystem consistency
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> loa_dude: It respects fstab
[01:52] <srx2002> is there a GUI program for ubuntu simular to TSmuxer  that can split/edit/demux  mkv files?
[01:52] <mercutio22> WebcamWonder> I see...
[01:52] <loa_dude> WebcamWonder, sweet. thx
[01:52] <Bsims> mercutio22: may I suggest if you are gonna use it only with linux formating it ext3 as it respects permissons better
[01:52] <BluesKaj> How does one minimize an app to the taskbar? ...it just disappears down to left hand side of the panel withou any indication or icon
[01:52]  * esworp ducks in anticipation of backlash from a newb question..
[01:52] <laughyn1nj4> cool.  how do i learn more about the linux file system?  google i supose
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> esworp: No need to. We are all here to help
[01:53] <esworp> can i add swap to a disk without having to repartition?
[01:53] <Bsims> mercutio22: for external drives fat32 is read by linux, windows, and mac its the lowest common demomiator
[01:53] <Flannel> !filesystem | laughyn1nj4
[01:53] <Flannel> esworp: You can add a swap file, yeah.
[01:53] <Flannel> !swap | esworp
[01:53] <mercutio22> Bsims> unfortunately, its my sister's drive and she uses windows. Next time I will format it to fat32
[01:53] <redstone> Hey all
[01:53] <Bsims> mercutio22: bacialy if you format it as fat32, everything can read it
[01:53] <laughyn1nj4> well i'd thank the bot , but...
[01:53] <mercutio22> yep
[01:54] <wers> step21_, thank you very much! :)
[01:54] <Bsims> mercutio22: how big is the data on it?
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> mercutio22: Don't use FAT.  I guess it is a really low priority bug
[01:56] <Bsims> er fscking
[01:56] <mercutio22> Bsims> I will use your first advice and boot into windows to check the windows disk
[01:56] <inflex> WebcamWonder: perhaps to ppl in the US :(
[01:56] <srx2002> anyone here using tsmuxer or simular to convert bluray's etc...
[01:56]  * Bsims smiles its my recomendation, and I've been linux full time from 2001 roughly
[01:57] <mercutio22> Thanks everyone for the advice
[01:57]  * Bsims grins dual boot from 1999 to today
[01:57] <mercutio22> later..
[01:57] <inflex> WebcamWonder: wastes trees through the fact that you end up having to print out twice (once to realise the stuffup, second when fixed)
[01:57] <Bsims> inflex: Heh get a duplexing printer and save paper
[01:57] <inflex> WebcamWonder: about the only 'fix' I have is to chattr +i the configuration file for FF
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Did this work for you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/10910/comments/11 ?
[01:57] <inflex> Bsims: had one :(
[01:58] <inflex> mmm... i'll try that WebcamWonder
[01:58] <Bsims> inflex: on my second one was an ancient ibm laserjet 4+p I sold for a song and the second was a samsung that speaks postscript
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Remember to backup the relevant settings/profiles
[01:59] <inflex> Bsims: mine was a HP2200D
[01:59]  * Bsims grins sold a laserjet 4+ with max ram, real postscript card and duplexer for 50 bucks
[01:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless USB adapter. It used to before just fine, but now it won't detect it.
[01:59]  * Bsims laughs damn thing weighted better part of a 8 yearold... I think total weight was about 75lbs
[02:00] <Bsims> it had 64megs of ram ya could remove the postscript card and boost that to 90 something
[02:00] <Bsims> and a jetdirect card too
[02:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> Neither the installation in my laptop nor the one in my tower is not recognizing it.
[02:01] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting sound "aplay -l" lists my hardware, but no sound, any ideas?
[02:01] <srx2002> anyone here using tsmuxer?

[02:01] <Bsims> replaced it with a ML-2850
[02:02] <Bsims> did use the linux provided drivers
[02:02] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Are you using aplay -D <your device name> ?
[02:02] <inflex> so long as the printers talk Postscript, i'm happy.  I find anything that doesn't talk PS ends up being a pain.
[02:03]  * Bsims pimps the ML-2850 28 A4 or 30PPM letter, built in postscript3, speaks USB, pcl6 and pcl5e and 10/100 networking with its own server
[02:04] <Bsims> best part its not that expensive
[02:04] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Yes
[02:04] <Bsims> and it has a duplexer built in
[02:04] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: hmm, did you check the volume? :)
[02:05] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Yes, checked that first
[02:05] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Then I am out of ideas. Try googling your sound card model number
[02:05] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, And speaker-test -c 6 -D output thinks it's working
[02:05] <racecar-56> back
[02:06] <Bsims> inflex: did have to monkey with it to get it to speak the same subnet as the rest of my lan
[02:06] <Until_It_Sleeps> Um, can somebody plz help me? Problems stated above.
[02:06] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, I was asking since it was working, and I updated alsa so I could get 5.1 from my spdif cable
[02:06]  * Bsims grins and debates a smoke vs cancer risk and pours myself another shot to chill while I smoke
[02:07] <bobbob1016> !patience | Until_It_Sleeps
[02:07] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Wait, so it was working, you updated, and it broke?
[02:07] <Until_It_Sleeps> :O
[02:07] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Well as 2.1 it was working
[02:08] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Ahh. I have no clue, worked with Alsa very little
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> Until_It_Sleeps: Did you upgrade/reinstall any of the versions of Ubuntu?
[02:08] <criloal> hi, I have  problems whit my nvidia. I am using Ubuntu 8.1. Some body  come help me ?
[02:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> WebcamWonder: Not recently. I'm using the same version (8.10) that I used when the adapter was working
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> Until_It_Sleeps: Can you test the adaptor with any other OS/PC to see if it is working? The adaptor might be dead itself
[02:10] <Until_It_Sleeps> I do have a multiboot going on my laptop. Both versions of Windows XP see the adapter just fine.
[02:11] <criloal> some one have problems with nvidia and ubuntu 8.1 ??
[02:12] <w33d5> what's the command for the ncurses sysV?
[02:12] <jords> Hmm... just did a adept update and it broke my sound. I've traced the problem to an error when trying to load the module snd-hda-intel (I have intel sound): [  189.459653] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave   [  189.459675] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave (in dmesg).  How can I get the drver working again?
[02:13] <codename> Is the Nvidia 180 driver in the repos?
[02:13] <Until_It_Sleeps> I do notice that it stopped recognizing it after I tried out a second USB adapter(Which I have no idea about it's location atm.).
[02:13] <racecar-56> brb
[02:13]  * racecar-56 is away: brb
[02:14] <redvamp128> codename:  you could possibly try the Nvidia site they probably have the .run for it.
[02:14] <talonstriker> need kde4.2 help:  how do you disable the system bell...I don't see an option under Setting Settings-> Notifications
[02:14] <nickrud> codename, yes, nvidia-glx-180
[02:14] <Until_It_Sleeps> If that causes previous adapters not to be recognized, that might explain why my tower is not recognizing it as well, as I have a Wireless PCI adapter in my tower.
[02:15] <criloal> yes, I have 180 driver in the repost,  I tray to install it , and
[02:15] <BluesKaj> !wifi
[02:15] <codename> So basically in Synaptic
[02:15] <codename> Uninstall the 177 stuff, then isntall the 180 stuff
[02:15] <raluk> salut
[02:15] <X1karr0usX> Until_It_Sleeps: check your private chat unless you are being helped
[02:16] <nickrud> talonstriker, codename yes
[02:16] <criloal> ok thank's I will it now
[02:16] <Xunie> I tried updating ubuntu (got a list of 150 MB, But with my current connection, No problemo!)...
[02:16] <nickrud> talonstriker, sorry, no kde help from me, I was about to suggest #kubuntu
[02:16] <Xunie> But I got an error at apt and it said to 'dpkg --configure -a', So I did, But there too I get that same dpkg error stating the following: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:17] <MatBoy> I can't figure out what I miss when I get this sudo: export: command not found
[02:17] <ari_stress> hi guys, how do we know the UUID of a filesystem? mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 does not exist
[02:17] <ari_stress> !UUID
[02:17] <ari_stress> ow
[02:17] <Xunie> ari_stress, Normally its in /etc/fstab (appears to me)
[02:18] <srx2002> anyone here using tsMuxer for Ubuntu?
[02:18] <Xunie> (if its your root ofcourse or another system FS :P)
[02:18] <ari_stress> Xunie: i've just reformat a partition, i guess the uuid is changed?
[02:18] <MatBoy> ah ok, found it :)
[02:18] <X1karr0usX> im helping my last dude, then going to bed... later guys
[02:18] <Xunie> ari_stress, I dunno about that, I prefer the 'old skool' approach :P
[02:19] <nickrud> ari_stress, yes, the uuid will change when you reformat;   sudo blkid will give you the new uuid
[02:20] <ari_stress> nickrud: i've got the new uuid, but strange, mount says it's not recognizable
[02:20] <nickrud> typo?
[02:20] <ari_stress> UUID=e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 /data           ext3    relatime        0       2
[02:20] <ari_stress> i copy paste
[02:21] <_DEL> i have a question about binaries, does anyone kknow of a good tutorial to compile them? I cant find the one i always use
[02:21] <mfrood> Can anyone recommend an app for remastering an ubuntu live CD? Something easy to use but effective and supports Hardy? Thanks!
[02:21] <ari_stress> !remaster
[02:21] <nickrud> ari_stress, and what's the exact output from  sudo mount /data
[02:21] <hvgotcodes> how can i get a jaunty package installed on intrepid?  I need the latest nvidia driver
[02:21] <nickrud> ah, remaster. Been trying to remember that one
[02:22] <whisperkiller> whats the comand to view processes running in CL?
[02:22] <ari_stress> nickrud: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 does not exist
[02:22] <ari_stress> whisperkiller: ps -aux | less
[02:22] <nickrud> ari_stress, compare  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/* against sudo blkid
[02:23] <nickrud> ari_stress, hm. I remember that now. I can't remember how to force the kernel to update it's list of uuid's.
[02:23] <ari_stress> nickrud: sda4 is not there
[02:23] <Freshy> i have installed both the LPR and CUPS driver but i think my device uri is wrong...
[02:23] <nickrud> ari_stress, I hate giving this advice, but if you reboot it'll be there ;(
[02:23] <ari_stress> nickrud: ahh.. hmm.. maybe i need to reboot? it's just been reformated
[02:23] <bnovc> i'm trying to do a distribution update, but the urls it is trying to download the files from don't exist...
[02:24] <bnovc> its trying to use us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386
[02:24] <yoyoned> bnovc: apt-get update
[02:24] <_DEL> i have a question about binaries, does anyone kknow of a good tutorial to compile them? I cant find the one i always use
[02:24] <bnovc> what/where should i change this to
[02:24] <bnovc> yoyoned: k
[02:24] <zanberdo_> is there a way that I can determine what group is required to execute a particular app?  specifically nm-applet.
[02:25] <bnovc> yoyoned: why isn't that run automatically on updates?
[02:25] <yoyoned> zanberdo_ ls -l
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> zanberdo_: i run nm-applet from the cl all the time with no group stuff
[02:25] <usser> zanberdo_, im not sure what you mean nm-applet is executable by your regular user
[02:25] <bnovc> apt-get update dies on the same thing
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> how can i get a jaunty package installed on intrepid?  I need the latest nvidia driver
[02:25] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, 180?
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: 180.22
[02:26] <ari_stress> zanberdo_: anything that affects outside your /home directory means require root rights
[02:26] <atari2600a> hey, you guys know how in metacity you can drag windows inbetween workspaces in the little workspaces applet, but in compiz you can't?
[02:26] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: the latest 180.xx in intrepid is 11
[02:26] <atari2600a> is there a compiz plugin that adds that functionality?
[02:26] <nickrud> !prevu | hvgotcodes
[02:26] <bamhm182> hey
[02:26] <bnovc> apparently this is because fiesty now longer is update
[02:26] <bnovc> *updated
[02:27] <ari_stress> atari2600a: you still use atari? :) compiz replace that with "xinerama" effect
[02:27] <atari2600a> yeah, it's very useful!
[02:27] <bnovc> why do repositories for older versions of ubuntu just get deleted with no way to update anymore?
[02:27] <xSlack> How do i see if php5 and mySQL are running on my system
[02:27] <Dyla1> what's up with this thing?
[02:27] <Dyla1> brb
[02:27] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you'll need nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 and nvidia-180-kernel-source at the least, I think
[02:27] <badcat> hello everyone, can someone please tell me how to partition my main hard drive? i'vetried with gparted but it won't allow me the option.
[02:27] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i dont want to backport
[02:28] <hvgotcodes> i want to forwardport ;)
[02:28] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you'll have to, since the video driver is intimately tied to the kernel. You need to recompile the driver against the intrepid kernel
[02:28] <ari_stress> badcat: you want to add more? max partition is 4 primary, if you want more, change the 4th to extended one
[02:28] <usser> bnovc, its kind of expensive maintaining repositories, and ubuntu's philosophy is new release every six months, there are long term support releases that are supported for 3 years, hardy is lts
[02:28] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yeah i got those thru synaptic but the latest version is 180.11.  I need 180.12, which is the default for jaunty
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ah i see what you mean
[02:29] <bamhm182> alright I think I got it now
[02:29] <bamhm182> yup
[02:29] <yoyoned> badcat: you can't partion a drive that is mounted.  get the gparted live cd
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> poo
[02:29] <bnovc> usser: i should at least be given the option to update to a newer version though....
[02:29] <bnovc> this is absurd that it just dies and i can't update
[02:29] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, and prevu will automate nearly everything
[02:29] <usser> bnovc, you do have that option
[02:29] <nownot> how do i update to the latest version of ubuntu?
[02:29] <yoyoned> bnovc: upgrade to hardy
[02:29] <usser> !upgrade | bnovc
[02:29] <bnovc> usser: how? it won't let me because these repos were removed
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> kde4.2 is practically unusuable for me L(
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, what do u want to upgrade to?
[02:30] <bnovc> the newest would be great
[02:30] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc
[02:30] <bamhm182> anyways, I decided to say screw Vista, and it wasn't going online, so I looked around for a copy of anything but Vista that I could install, Ubuntu 7.04 was the only one that I could find, but it's not letting me upgrade, any idea why not?
[02:30] <bobbob1016> http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[02:30] <zanberdo_> ok, to all that have offered suggestions: more information.  Without getting into too much detail I have switch from gdm to qingy.  As a result I have discovered that there are a few apps such as pulse/alsa and now evidently nm-applet that do not load.  I resolved the audio issue by adding my user to the audio group.  I'm assuming I can do the same for nm-applets.  I just need to figure out what group is required.  It's not dialout, b
[02:30] <zanberdo_> tw.  And yes, I can run it using sudo from cli, it just won't run as me
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, oh you are trying to upgrade from old version to slightly newer but still old :)
[02:30] <bamhm182> Is it just that it's not supported any more?
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, yea that kinda sucks
[02:30] <bnovc> usser: i'm trying to upgrade to whatever i can upgrade to
[02:30] <bnovc> i thought i would be able to upgrade without wiping and reinstalling?
[02:30] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: THat's far too old - just dl a new ISO
[02:30] <bnovc> apparently not :(
[02:31] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: In order to get up to date, you'd have to go from 7.04 --> 7.10 --> 8.04 --> 8.10
[02:31] <nownot> same here i have 8.04.2 and i want to upgreade to the latest one
[02:31] <xSlack> How do i see if I have mySQL and PHP5 running on my system
[02:31] <Cpudan80> nownot: so do it - run the upgrader
[02:31] <yoyoned> bnovc: update-manager -c
[02:31] <Flannel> Cpudan80, bamhm182: Or you can just stop at 8.04, which is an LTS.
[02:31] <vlada_ns> hello dale
[02:31] <Cpudan80> !upgrade | nownot
[02:31] <usser> bnovc, what version do u have?
[02:32] <bamhm182> alright, thank you Cpudan80, that's what I was thinking was going on, I've already got it working on downloading 8.10
[02:32] <bnovc> usser: 7.04
[02:32] <DaLe89> vlada_ns hellp
[02:32] <DaLe89> Laughing Out Loud
[02:32] <bnovc> yoyoned: that is what i tried to using originally
[02:32] <DaLe89> hello
[02:32] <bnovc> it says "New distribution release '7.10' is available"
[02:32] <bamhm182> Man, Vista wasn't going online for like an hour, so I said screw it and put in the CD, booted to the live CD and INSTANTLY the internet was working again
[02:32] <bnovc> i click it, it dies
[02:32] <vlada_ns> o chemu ovi razglabavaju?
[02:32] <bamhm182> that's what I get bnovc
[02:33] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ive read the prevu documentation more closely, seems to be exactly what i want thanx
[02:33] <miik> wow, people still use 7.04 wow
[02:33] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: In fairness, the Vista TCP/IP stack was probably broken - and could have been fixed with one command
[02:33] <usser> has 7.10 reached end of life?
[02:33] <bnovc> i don't use 7.04... i have it installed and i want to upgrade it
[02:33] <Cpudan80> But .... water under the bridge now I guess
[02:33] <Cpudan80> or over it
[02:33] <w33d5> what's the command for the ncurses sysV?
[02:33] <bamhm182> lol, only reason I'm on 7.04 is because I just needed to get off Vista, and I didn't have anything newer
[02:33] <bnovc> its pretty bad if it just dies updating
[02:33] <miik> oh
[02:34] <badcat> ari_stress i only have the main partition and the swap. is there away at least to shrink the main partition? (the one that ubuntu is installed on, when i'm in ubuntu?)
[02:34] <miik> dl 8.10 and burn that :d
[02:34] <bnovc> so if you're on 7.04 you're just completely screwed?
[02:35] <badcat> yoyoned. hmmm, in other words if i'm in ubuntu i can't partition the drive ubuntu is installed on right?
[02:35] <Flannel> bnovc: No, you just need to do some extra steps to upgrade to 7.10 (and then you do it entirely normally)
[02:35] <miik> 7.04 is unsupported, and outdated
[02:35] <yoyoned> badcat: right
[02:35] <bnovc> i don't want support beyond upgrading
[02:35] <bnovc> you shouldn't lose support for upgrading
[02:35] <miik> dont know, never upgraded from 7.04, but why not just get 8.10? its awesome
[02:35] <badcat> yoyoned, thanks
[02:35] <bnovc> and if you do, it shouldn't just die trying to download repositories
[02:36] <bnovc> it should say "we dont have time to fix the updating procedures for old version. you must reformat"
[02:36] <bnovc> miik: i was trying to ... via update
[02:36] <miik> oh
[02:36] <Flannel> bnovc: You just have to manually tweak some things.
[02:36] <Flannel> bnovc: It's entirely upgradable.  Whomever told you otherwise is mistaken.
[02:36] <nickrud> bnovc, listen to Flannel he seems to have specialized in this recently :)
[02:37] <bobbob1016> bnovc, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[02:37] <yoyoned> bnovc: there is one other thing you could try, but it may not go smoothly
[02:37] <bamhm182> I'll give that a shot, thanks bobbob1016
[02:37] <bnovc> bobbob1016: those are the steps i've tried that don't work
[02:37] <miik> 11.7 mb/s, wow i update from 8.10 to 9.04alpha in 1 minute
[02:37] <Flannel> bobbob1016, bobbob1016: That article isn't relevant at all.  It was only relative during the middle part of 2007.
[02:37] <Flannel> er, bnovc
[02:38] <bnovc> Flannel: what can i edit to get that procedure to work again?
[02:38] <bobbob1016> Flannel, Yes, but he's going from feisty to gutsy, which was relevant back then...  Shouldn't have changed.  If someone was asking how to install software on a 15 year old machine, telling them to put the floppy in wouldn't be irrelevant to them, but would in modern day standards.
[02:39] <TheOrz> hello
[02:39] <bnovc> and more important, has this been fixed in future versions so when they EOL they dont die with missing URL errors?
[02:39] <nickrud> bobbob1016, the repository has changed. Mainly
[02:39] <TheOrz> I've gotten 3 Linux Kernel 2.6.7-11 updates in the past 24 hours; anyone know what is going on?
[02:39] <Flannel> bobbob1016: No, that article is temporal, mentions things that were only necessary before Gutsy was officially released, etc.
[02:39] <patmanpato> hrm, whats the keyboard shortcut to jump to the "search" box in firefox on ubuntu? in windows it was ctrl+e
[02:39] <miik> TheOrz, yeah, i got that...
[02:39] <bamhm182> how do you kill a program that won't exit?
[02:39] <bnovc> patmanpato: ctrl+l+tab :D
[02:39] <bamhm182> Sorry, I'm new
[02:39] <yoyoned> bnovc: last resort - chnage every instance of fiesty to hardy in /etc/apt/sources.list then   apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:40] <miik> TheOrz, you probably have the "Proposed" repository enabled
[02:40] <Flannel> yoyoned: No.
[02:40] <Flannel> bnovc: No.
[02:40] <nickrud> bnovc, don't do that
[02:40] <bnovc> yoyoned: that sounds like it will cause even more problems
[02:40] <bobbob1016> nickrud, Yes, but I thought update -c or whichever was repo independent, as in it got the next version's location from a generic repo, not a specific place.  My bad.
[02:40] <TheOrz> miik: They are all listed under "Important Security Updates"
[02:40] <redvamp128> i think he means -d
[02:40] <miik> TheOrz, oh, then they are security updates... i got them too
[02:40] <erUSUL> patmanpato: Crtl + k
[02:40] <bnovc> i could just download another iso and install it, but i'm just shocked that the maintainers would delete a repository knowing that people using older versions would just die suddenly with vague errors
[02:40] <nickrud> bobbob1016, currently, the place for feisty is old-releases.ubuntu.com. Not automated at all :)
[02:40] <Flannel> bnovc: First, lets stick with the real pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes is for all releases, so once you're on Gutsy, you'll be able to get instructions on going to Hardy.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades  contains current information on upgrading to Hardy.
[02:40] <bobbob1016> Flannel, I get what you mean, I saw update -c and remember doing that all the time.
[02:41] <Flannel> bnovc: It's not deleted, it's moved.
[02:41] <vigo> The0rz: Seems like the last kernel update was buggy, or so I have seen in this IRC, so I guess is 'fixed' now, I just updated and all seems to work fine.
[02:41] <kansan> is there something that is NOT autossh that will keep a persistent ssh tunnel open?
[02:41] <TheOrz> miik: yeah but why are there 3 in one day to the same kernel? Just smelled like a fish.
[02:41] <bnovc> Flannel: either way, the error still says my network connection is broken and nothing about using too old of a version to upgrade
[02:41] <patmanpato> erUSUL: thanks
[02:41] <miik> TheOrz, hehe... maybe 2 were oops
[02:41] <miik> lol
[02:41] <Flannel> bnovc: If you go to that wiki page, it explains how to get access to those repositories.  I apologise for all of the blind-leading-the-blind going on here.
[02:41] <redvamp128>  update-manager -d
[02:41] <jords> Hmm... just did a adept update and it broke my sound. I've traced the problem to an error when trying to load the module snd-hda-intel (I have intel sound): [  189.459653] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave   [  189.459675] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave (in dmesg).  How can I get the drver working again?
[02:41] <syzygy> what is the command to extract tar.bz files?
[02:42] <bnovc> bunzip and tar
[02:42] <syzygy> tar -xf?
[02:42] <yoyoned> syzygy: tar jxvf
[02:42] <miik> jords, dont know, try google "snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave" and "snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave"
[02:42] <syzygy> ty
[02:42] <AMDfanboy> hi, my transmission port stays open for a while then closes, what do i do?  thanks!
[02:42] <bnovc> Flannel: well probably easier if i just grab a new ISO at this point... im just really disappointed in this .... have the newer versions been corrected so when they end of life this doesn't happen?
[02:43] <Flannel> bnovc: The network upgrade isn't broken.  It's possible to upgrade, and many people have.
[02:43] <ryanprior> When I click my left and right mouse buttons at the same time, it registers as a middle-click. This is causing problems in some of the action games I play, which expect a right-then-left click in very quick succession. How can I disable the middle-click emulation feature?
[02:43] <bnovc> Flannel: it gives me an error, so it is broken... it may be fixable but that doesn't mean it is done correctly right now
[02:43] <leeping_> Hey all, I am having trouble forwarding X with my new computer.  I already enabled the relevant line in /etc/sshd_config.  Is there anything else I should do?  Thanks.
[02:44] <jords> miik: I have googled, i it seems to be related to the kernel and module versions being mismatched but that doesnt really help me to get the new version of the module
[02:44] <bnovc> leeping_: what command are you using to ssh
[02:44] <yoyoned> leeping are you using ssh -X
[02:44] <leeping_> bnovc, I'm using ssh -Y
[02:44] <Flannel> bnovc: Um.  Right.  Just because people were giving you poor information here has nothing to do with broken.  Also, you were given at least two months from the *end* of Feistys support where it "wasn't broken" (didn't require extra steps).
[02:44] <bnovc> need -X
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !lts
[02:45] <bnovc> Flannel: but i'm saying that it should bring up a dialog and say "You need to go to <url> and follow steps" or something instead of just saying the url is missing
[02:45] <nickrud> !jack_sparrow
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Nick
[02:45] <nickrud> Hi jack
[02:45] <nickrud> !flannel
[02:45] <nickrud> all gone :(
[02:46] <Cocoabean> hello, does anyone know how to enable /dev/tcp in bash on debian/ubuntu systems
[02:46] <leeping_> Furthermore, when I log into the new machine I don't get a $DISPLAY environment variable.
[02:46] <_VIM_> lol the ops are !fishing
[02:46] <_VIM_> :p
[02:46] <vigo> That was funny
[02:46] <Flannel> bnovc: That's somewhat non-sensical, since in order for you to get the "the repos have moved" update, you'd have to have the repos available to update.
[02:47] <bnovc> Flannel: no... if(repos don't exist) { print "could be network trouble OR youre too old and need to visit X" }
[02:47] <bnovc> users with old versions shouldn't be expected to saerch for error messages and ask on irc to find out why they can't update
[02:47] <Cocoabean> !/dev/tcp
[02:47] <Flannel> bnovc: That'd give way too many false positives when it is network trouble, and would cause more panic than it saves.  The majority of people upgrade in a timely manner.
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Flannel: Are there any plans that you know of to at least warn people that EOL is near / has come so we don't get as many questions about the repos being "broken" ?
[02:48] <bnovc> Flannel: the majority of people that you know, perhaps?
[02:48] <Flannel> bnovc: This is getting offtopic, if you'd like to continue this conversation, I'd be happy to continue it, but in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[02:51] <Shwaiil> Hi ppl
[02:53] <bamhm182> hey Shwail
[02:53] <Shwaiil> Q: I want to start using linux, I heard a few years ago about ubuntu, meanwhile I asked about this around, and theres lots of people saying that there's other alternatives. So, why ubuntu and not other distributions? I'm a student, work a lot on audio, graphics, internet, etc, wish ubuntu has a version with that included. Any sugestion is appreciated. Tks!
[02:53] <Shwaiil> bamhm182, hi ;D
[02:53] <bamhm182> sorry if someone answered my question, but I didn't see it. How do you kill a program that won't close?
[02:54] <Flannel> Shwaiil: Ubuntu Studio would have all that stuff installed by default, however you can always install the "regular" Ubuntu, and then add the various programs (and thats probably a better bet)
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Shwaiil That is offtopic for the support channel..  Ubuntu Studio is what you want
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !studio
[02:55] <bamhm182> thank you, I was just about to ask
[02:56] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[02:56] <bamhm182> if I was looking for a photoshop-like application for Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio would work right?
[02:56] <Shwaiil> I'm sorry I didnt knew this was the support channel and that my question was offtopic :D but thansk for your sugeston
[02:56] <Shwaiil> bamhm182, I use Gimp...
[02:56] <lifenova> bamhm182: GIMP is very near to photoshop and comes with Ubuntu by default ;)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> bamhm182 Just gimp or gimpshop
[02:56] <bamhm182> alright
[02:56] <Shwaiil> but.. didnt experienced ubuntu yet
[02:56] <bamhm182> thanks
[02:56] <vigo> bahm182: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1048693&highlight=force+quit That might be the solution
[02:56] <bamhm182> it's worth a shot
[02:56] <Shwaiil> Gimp is really good bamhm182!
[02:57] <vigo> or a solution
[02:57]  * racecar-56 is back (gone 00:43:31)
[02:57] <bamhm182> something I recommend trying is the 3D cube effect once, and if, you get on Ubuntu, it's cool
[02:57] <leeping_> Hey there, anyone here know why I'm not getting a $DISPLAY environment variable when I ssh into my new computer?
[02:57] <racecar-56> im back
[02:57] <leeping_> (supporting info: I installed the Server Edition of Ubuntu .. maybe I need to install some missing packages?)
[02:58] <bamhm182> I had that installed last time I was on Ubuntu and it's neat, haven't got it installed this time yet
[02:59] <bamhm182> thanks for the force quit help vigo
[03:00] <vigo> If it worked, then I am happy
[03:00] <ineedubuntuhelp> hello all
[03:00] <G__81> i am downloading Ubuntu 8.10 just want to know that now all ubuntu releases are supported for 18 mths ?
[03:01] <G__81> i mean apart from the LTS release
[03:01] <G__81> ?
[03:01] <maxxist> hello ineedubuntuhelp
[03:01] <bamhm182> crap, I hit ctrl+alt+backspace thinking before I finished reading the sentence :P
[03:01] <Flannel> G__81: That's how its always been yes.
[03:01] <bamhm182> Now I get to restart my download! :D
[03:01] <racecar-56> lol
[03:01] <bamhm182> oh well, at least it killed the update manager
[03:02] <maximumbob> does anyone know how to make the Screen license page not appear every time you start it? I've looked around in .screenrc but wasn't sure what to look for.
[03:03] <marcel> how can i install gas ?
[03:03] <ineedubuntuhelp> !wifi
[03:03] <jtaji> maximumbob: startup_message off
[03:03] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi guys!
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> nobody is writing e?
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> i am so sad
[03:05] <racecar-56> ?
[03:05] <lifenova> !offtopic
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> racecar-56, : hi
[03:05] <Xintruder> does ubuntu use a special encryption method?
[03:05] <Xintruder> like xp uses efs
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : no
[03:05] <Flannel> AETE_KRAOUD: This is a support channel, if you're looking for conversation, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[03:06] <maxxist> anyone else get a weird white line under your gnome panel when using cube rotate effect in compiz?  its sort of like a tearing line right across the underside of the panel.  its works fine,  just a visual glitch i was curious about.
[03:06] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : thanks ok
[03:06] <Xintruder> how can i encrypt my ubuntu, to keep it safe from attacks?
[03:06] <bamhm182> I've just got 1 more complaint about Ubuntu, I've got a USB bluetooth keyboard, and every time that I turn on my computer, I have to unplug the dongle, wait a few seconds, than plug it back in
[03:06] <b_e_n_z> want to know if anyone has setup a db2 express-c v9.5 instance on ubuntu and can use SQL Squirrel client to remotely connect to it
[03:06] <ineedubuntuhelp> i am having a little trouble loading a driver. i wonder if anyone in here has any experience with that. i am trying to load a driver for an intel 5100 wifi card using the ndiswrapper tool for windows wireless drivers. the output of my "ndiswrapper -l" shows my driver installed, yet my "iwconfig" shows "no wireless extensions". i am told (on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper) to then use the com
[03:06] <bamhm182> does anyone have any tips to fix that?
[03:07] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : there is  an option in ubuntu 8.10
[03:07] <Xintruder> what option
[03:07] <ineedubuntuhelp> i am told i have a driver "installed", but not "loaded"...not sure if this is the case (or even possible)
[03:07] <martin_> hello
[03:07] <b_e_n_z> i am using the IBM Net Driver (jdbc Type 4)
[03:08] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : the option to encrypt a filesystem
[03:09] <Xintruder> AETE_KRAOUD: where is it?
[03:09] <maxxist> Xintruder what part of ubuntu do you want to encrypt?  web access? disk access?
[03:10] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : ask maxxist  :-) better :-)
[03:11] <elysium444> can i install ubuntu into a usb and make changes there. not a live usb i mean
[03:11] <Xintruder> maxxist: AETE_KRAOUD told me to ask u
[03:12] <Dr_willis> elysium444,  yes. to some degree.. Theres that usb-disk creater tool that lets you have some persistant changes.. it works decently well.
[03:12] <ineedubuntuhelp> anybody in here know anything about loading a driver? i am new to ubuntu and cannot seem to get it to work
[03:12] <Dr_willis> elysium444,  then theres doint an actual 'install' to a external usb drive.. but that can be more problemnatic
[03:12] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  tell the channel more details as to what 'driver' you are refering to.
[03:12] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder,  : I have work bye :-)
[03:12] <AETE_KRAOUD> bye
[03:13] <Xintruder> AETE_KRAOUD: ma 3indik ma 3nd jadity
[03:13] <maxxist> elysium444 if you are trying to install ubuntu to a usb drive and use it as an bootable Operating System yes you can. follow up on Dr_willis comment
[03:13] <ineedubuntuhelp> the driver i am using is the windows wireless driver, available on intellinuxwireless.org for the intel 5100...i have it on my desktop
[03:13] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : what ?
[03:13] <Xintruder> ma 3indik ma 3nd jadity
[03:14] <elysium444> thanks guys
[03:14] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : in english ?
[03:14] <Xintruder> that is
[03:14] <ineedubuntuhelp> it reads as "netw5v32"
[03:14] <ineedubuntuhelp> and informs me that it is installed, with hardware present
[03:14] <maxxist> i smell a troll.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  its possible that driver is allready installed in ubuntu,. then again its possible its not. You may want to check the ubuntu forums for that exact chipset -  you may have to resorte to compiling it from source.. which can be a daunting task for a new user of linux.
[03:15] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : but what does it means?
[03:15] <Xintruder> AEi have work too, bye.
[03:15] <ineedubuntuhelp> that sounds daunting...i upgraded to ibex, and was told ibex had native support for the intel 5100
[03:15] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  if  you compiled/ and installed it - and knew the module name, you could manually load the module.
[03:15] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  then it proberly does.. and its just a configuration issue you need to be working on.. not the driver issue.
[03:15] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder,  : whatever whatever ....................................................................................................................
[03:16] <Xintruder> :)
[03:16] <maximumbob> jtaji: thanks.
[03:16] <ineedubuntuhelp> even if i am getting a "no wireless extensions" readout from iwconfig?
[03:16] <maximumbob> Also, when I use gnome's terminal's transparent background feature... it always just shows through to the desktop image. And not very well at that.
[03:17] <maximumbob> Is there a way to use true transparency here or would I need compositing?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> maximumbob,   You would have to use the compiz features for 'true' transparency
[03:17] <Xintruder> how can i assign file permissions using the gui, rather than terminal
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  right click on the file -> properties - i think. :)
[03:18] <maximumbob> Dr_willis: darn. On my thinkpad, compiz breaks something. When I go to suspend with compiz enabled, my screen doesn't come back on when I come back.
[03:18] <lifenova> Xintruder: right click and then it's an option in the properties window
[03:18] <ineedubuntuhelp> also, dr willis: when you say configuration, do you just mean network configuration?
[03:18] <esworp> so..  i'm using Xfce, and need a calendar/PIM that can sync with google calendar..  any hints?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  yep. You may want to check out the wireless forums/threads on the ubuntu sites. - For my 2 wireless cards.. they just 'work' so i have no experience with troubleshooting the things.  THey either worked for me.. or they were totally unsupported.
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> ok
[03:19] <esworp> i've use gpecal a lot on my n800..  but was wondering if there's a beter option
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> im going to check some of the network setup issues
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> thanks
[03:19] <esworp> !calendar
[03:19] <maximumbob> Also, do you know how to fix the problem with compiz where it breaks the 'desktop array' thing at the bottom: The bottom half is always black
[03:20] <big> !list
[03:21] <esworp> !gpe
[03:21] <esworp> !ical
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !fishing
[03:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:21] <esworp> doh
[03:21]  * nickrud is slooww tonight
[03:21] <esworp> sorry .. that /was/ rude. my bad
[03:22] <Dr_willis> I always got an Chat window to Ubottu :)
[03:22]  * nickrud boggles at someone actually apologizing. His faith is renewed :)
[03:23] <george_st-pierre> Hello all, I have a quick question.  Is it possible to run multiple tunnels on a single box?  like one tunnel to HE, one to another provider, etc.
[03:23] <laughyn1nj4> i can't find /boot/grub/stage1   and i can't find /grub/stage1 ; why this is?
[03:23] <Joeseph> hi. I was wondering how to switch the default port for the http interface on vlc to something other than 8080.       any ideas?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> Joeseph,  check the vlc homepage. and docs.. it has a HUGE  section of well done docs.. its a command line artument/config file setting i imagine
[03:25] <laughyn1nj4> the ubuntu install crapped out right at the end with some sort of grub error .. i want to install grub myself but can't find stage1   what gives?
[03:26] <malibu> When I ssh into my machine or do an su - I get about a 20 second lag... Does anyone know how to start troubleshooting something like that?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  possible the package failed to install.  You could boot a live cd. chroot to the installed system and reinstall the grub packages
[03:29] <nkei0> Hey everyone, have any of you installed the new ati graphics driver?
[03:30] <n8tuserf> malibu -> look at the sshd_config file for resolving your host where you are logging on from
[03:30] <laughyn1nj4> chroot to installed sys ... tell me more...what's the cmd line?
[03:30] <malibu> n8tuserf: Is that a yes/no kind of option?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> !grub | laughyn1nj4
[03:31] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  'chroot /media/mountpoint'  and then  there may be more to it then that.
[03:31] <laughyn1nj4> i've done all that
[03:31] <nkei0> Anyone want to help me out, I'm trying to install the new ati graphics driver but it won't let me sh it
[03:31] <n8tuserf> malibu -> or maybe you can disable the GSSAPI authentications
[03:31] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  some times it just pays big time to learn  the down and dirty detail of grub.
[03:32] <malibu> n8tuserf: That sounds more along the lines of what I need to do
[03:32] <elysium444> does the usb-creator install ubuntu into a usb in a way that can save software changes and other system changes after reboot?
[03:32] <laughyn1nj4> ok ... i'm trying.  i know my ubuntu system is inttalled on sda2 ... so i must mount that somewhere then chroot to that mount point?  is tthat correct?
[03:32] <nkei0> Oh haha, nevermind i got it to work
[03:33] <Rambozo> is there a virtual package to get the proper packages for a basic dev environment set up?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  yes. b
[03:34] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  then one or more sections of the 'fix grub' docs - detils the commands needed to properly reinstall grub
[03:35] <kizer> hey
[03:35] <bizkit_> im trying to see what i have on secondary drive, but my linux box is only seeing the /boot on the secondary drive
[03:35] <kizer> would anyone know if the eeepc 900A has multitouch capabilities
[03:36] <kizer> ?
[03:36] <laughyn1nj4> ok thanks.  i'm off to hack away
[03:36] <kizer> I'm hunting for a netbook
[03:36] <vigo> Yipeeee! default is SeaMonkey
[03:36] <elysium444> does the usb-creator install ubuntu into a usb in a way that can save software changes and other system changes after reboot?
[03:36] <kizer> elysium444: yes it can
[03:36] <kizer> it make a persistant install
[03:37] <elysium444> kizer: thanks
[03:37] <kizer> sure
[03:37] <malibu> n8tuserf: how do I disable GSSAPI auths?
[03:37] <kizer> I suggest doing a normal install onto an hd and then just select where you want the boot loader installed
[03:38] <kizer> Oh and by the way. Kudos to Crunchbang linux!!!
[03:38] <kizer> a new offspring of ubuntu
[03:38] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[03:39] <n8tuserf> malibu -> comment them
[03:39] <laughyn1nj4> ok this is crazy.   my sda2 partition says it's FAT16 ... i KNOW i told the partitioner to make it ext3
[03:39] <malibu> n8tuserf: Yeah found it.. sshd_config
[03:40] <malibu> n8tuserf: Turning off GSSAPI didn't work
[03:41] <n8tuserf> malibu -> did you restart sshd ?
[03:41] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  'sudo fdisk -l' and look. It may be you are looking at  a usb drive.. or somthng
[03:42] <malibu> n8tuserf: yup
[03:42] <n8tuserf> malibu -> try to google for info on such
[03:42] <laughyn1nj4> sudo fdisk -l is what i did to discover the FAT16 .... i just rebooted back to the live cd ... there are no usb drives connected ...
[03:43] <hvgotcodes> i tried to use prevu to build the jaunty version of nvidia drivers but got the following error: dpkg-source: failure: cannot open *.dsc: No such file or directory
[03:44] <malibu> n8tuserf: Yeah.. I will keep trying
[03:44] <n8tuserf> laughyn1nj4 -> you may have told the partitioner, but did you tell the partitioner to write your selection?
[03:44] <malibu> Running out of search terms
[03:44] <hvgotcodes> can someone assist me on that prevu error?
[03:45] <laughyn1nj4> i hit [next] or whatever ... thought the partitioner would write upoon next ... going on about the 15th attempt at this.
[03:45] <malibu> n8tuserf: This might be something... I just noticed console-kit-daemon using 99% CPU
[03:45] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  i tend to partition the disks first.. then tell the installer where to go to
[03:45] <laughyn1nj4> how does one do that?
[03:46] <laughyn1nj4> what other partitioner is there?
[03:46] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: are you familiar with prevu errors?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  fdisk, cfdisk, gparted,
[03:46] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no ... the one time I used it it worked flawlessly
[03:47] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, and for me, that's necessary :)
[03:47] <malibu> n8tuserf: Awesome I think that was it
[03:47] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: what do you mean necessary?
[03:47] <laughyn1nj4> try and try again as they say
[03:47] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, because I don't understand the errors?
[03:48] <albuntu> hello to all
[03:48] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: oh, lol
[03:48] <n8tuserf> malibu -> what was it?
[03:48] <hvgotcodes> i wonder if it failed because the package is in the restricted repo for jaunty
[03:49] <albuntu> i removed iscponfig and i am getting this error with apache now : http://paste.ubuntu.com/111942/. anyone that can help ?
[03:50] <laughyn1nj4> now the installer's partitioner reads it as ext3 ... i thought i told it ext3 ... wonder why fdisk says fat32?   unexpeccted.
[03:50] <albuntu> now apache always fails with that error if i try to start it
[03:51] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  some partitioner tools require you to 'apply/write' changes to disk.
[03:51] <ari_stress> albuntu: better uninstall apache, and delete all it's config files in /etc/apache2
[03:51] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: does prevu only work on source packages?
[03:51] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, that's it's purpose, yes
[03:51] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: so i cant use it to get a binary package
[03:51] <laughyn1nj4> ok.  this is the partitioner that comes up when you install ibex ... there is no apply/write ... only -->forward
[03:52] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no
[03:52] <Xintruder> is there a guest account enabled by default??
[03:52] <n8tuserf> not that i knew of
[03:52] <albuntu> ari_stress: why is that ? isnt any simple solution because i have made many changes to the config files in apache and i dont remember all of them. i tried uninstalling apache and reinstalling it but that didnt help
[03:52] <malibu> n8tuserf: I'm reading a long big report right now on consolekit
[03:52] <laughyn1nj4> fat16 ...that's ancient ... windows 98 used fat16 !
[03:53] <ari_stress> albuntu: because uninstalling doesn't remove the config files
[03:53] <malibu> Apparently it was just fixed the other day
[03:53] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i keep forgetting that any binary for jaunty wont work on intrepid
[03:53] <hvgotcodes> nvidia-180-glx should be valid right?
[03:53] <malibu> n8tuserf: It seems I got bit by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/284229
[03:53] <albuntu> ari_stress: you mean removing all the apache2 folder in etc ?
[03:53] <Xintruder> is there a guest account enabled by default?? in ubuntu 8.10
[03:53] <malibu> n8tuserf: I need to run an update
[03:53] <ari_stress> albuntu: correct
[03:53] <albuntu> ari_stress: ok let me try
[03:53] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no, it's nvidia-graphics-driver-180 (at least in intrepid)
[03:53] <codename> join /#ubuntuforums
[03:53] <laughyn1nj4> when i mount sda2 i can see all the dirs one would expect in / on a linx sys
[03:54] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, the source file that is
[03:54] <laughyn1nj4> it's there ...
[03:54] <nickrud> Xintruder, no
[03:54] <adred> hi..why do it get this error each time i update my system: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5DC4E17435661D98. anyone know what it means?
[03:54] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: thanx, i tried that same error
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  they have a 'guest' feature where you Login in as normal account and then  if someome wants to borrow the pc.. you 'switch' to guest. account
[03:55] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, try looking on packages.ubuntu.com for the name; I wouldn't be terribly suprised if it changed across releases
[03:55] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: so the guest account is enabled by default in ubuntu?
[03:55] <nickrud> Dr_willis, there is? What's it's home?
[03:55] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-180
[03:55] <hvgotcodes> the source package is what you said -- didn't work
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> what is the launchpad url i can try pinging it
[03:56] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, if you look on the column on right, it lists the source package name
[03:56] <albuntu> ari_stress: did everything that you said. now i get this trying to start apache : /etc/init.d/apache2: line 44: /etc/apache2/envvars: No such file or directory
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes it is what you said
[03:56] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  it dosent have a 'home' its a special semi-account
[03:56] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, nope, I had a typo: nvidia-graphics-drivers-180  (drivers, not driver)
[03:56] <ari_stress> albuntu: i mean uninstall, remove the dirs, then install apache again, it will give you clean config
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  its not quite the same as  a 'account called guest' its just a 'guest' feature
[03:57] <ari_stress> albuntu: use synaptic, re-install apache
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ah lets try that
[03:57] <nickrud> Dr_willis, ah, thanks.
[03:57] <arrrghhh> so ubuntu seems to be stealing my printer from my virtual machine.  how do i "umount" a printer from ubuntu using the cli?
[03:57] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: windows has guest disabled by default. does that make ubuntu less secure?
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: Success
[03:57] <albuntu> ari_stress: thats what i did. --purged , removed the /etc/apache2 folder and reinstalled
[03:57] <pc03> ndar_cool
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  its not the same sort of thing..  comparing apples and oranges.
[03:57] <ari_stress> albuntu: is there any /etc/apache2 dir now?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  Linux is more secure from the ground up due to how the filesystem/permissions work. for one thing
[03:58] <albuntu> ari_stress:
[03:58] <albuntu> no
[03:58] <nickrud> plus the radically reduced number of targets, making it a much less productive hack
[03:58] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: i logged out ubuntu mate, i cant find guest. where is it located?
[03:58] <ari_stress> albuntu: what :)
[03:59] <Zard0z> Anyone know how I can make "cpio -i" output to a folder other than the one it is in?
[03:59] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: did i need to run prevu package in a sudo?
[03:59] <Citizen_Z> Greetings, quick question. Is printing to Novell NetWare printers still not supported by any package in Ubuntu?
[03:59] <grendal_prime> i have  a web cam on a machine that is behind a firewall,  what is the best way to stream webcam stuff through the firewall?
[04:00] <grendal_prime> something simple...
[04:00] <Zard0z> Is there a general way to do this inLinux maybe?
[04:00] <pkundu> hi anybody here running utorrent in ubutu with wine
[04:00] <ari_stress> albuntu: Zard0z, find /blabla | cpio -i > /path/to/bla2
[04:00] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, only for the init; for the build you don't
[04:00] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: thats what i thought thanx
[04:00] <Zard0z> @ari_stress - rly? - thought I'd tried that! - Will try again - thx! :-)
[04:00] <arrrghhh> Xintruder, guest is disabled... but by default the "normal" user has "root" priveleges in the system.
[04:01] <Xintruder> ok thank you
[04:03] <kbreit> I am trying to get Ubuntu working on my laptop with an Atheros (I think) wireless card internally.  My AP is using AES and WPA2 personal.  Ubuntu isn't installed as I want to prove I can have it working before writing to the disk.  Can someone help me get wireless working?
[04:04] <Zard0z> ari_stress, no joy, I'm trying to decompress a CPIO filesystem withing a GZ to an absolute path...
[04:04] <keithclark> Anyone know how to get sound working in 8.10/
[04:05] <grendal_prime> keithclark: what card?
[04:05] <keithclark> grendal_prime, not sure
[04:05] <Zard0z> Tried zcat /var/shit/initrd.gz | cpio -i >/var/shit/decompressed but that just gives me "/var/shit/decompressed/: Is a directory" :-/
[04:06] <n8tuserf> !ohmy | Zard0z
[04:06] <Fezzler> would "locate ~/.pilotmailrc" find this file if it resides anywhere on my computer?
[04:06] <Zard0z> Whoops - sorry!
[04:07] <keithclark> grendal_prime, how to tell?
[04:07] <Zard0z> My systemis full of mucky paths *blush*
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  you DONT log out.. You login as a normal user and then that user switching applet has the 'guest' thing...  its not a 'normal account'
[04:07] <clrtxt> What's required to get plug and play working with usb keys and usb mice?
[04:08] <_VIM_> Fezzler: you might have to run 'sudo updatedb' first then type 'locate filenameGOESHERE |less'
[04:08] <keithclark> Ok, anyone else help with no sound?
[04:08] <Pyles17> is there a way to get a live cd for powerpc macs? because as i understand, the alternate installer doesn't have live cd capability
[04:08] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: so prevu finished, now i don't see the new packages in synaptic.  if they have the same name as the intrepid package, will it just be a straight update?  Or should it still show up?
[04:08] <Pyles17> keithclark: alsamixer?
[04:09] <keithclark> Pyles17, yes
[04:09] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, when you did the prevu-init, did you tell it to use apt ?
[04:09] <Pyles17> keithclark: so you tried that. that's all i know
[04:09] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes
[04:10] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, it should be there. Try updating synaptic
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> apt-get says the following packages will be kept back and then nvidia-glx-180
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> The following packages will be upgraded: nvidia-180-kernel-source nvidia-180-modaliases
[04:10] <n8tuserf> Dr_willis -> does it have an entry in /etc/passwd ?
[04:10] <carpediem> keithclark: Try "sudo killall pulseaudio"
[04:10] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, run apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180 , and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ok
[04:11] <Dr_willis> n838901,  it doent have a pasword.. so i would guess no.
[04:11] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you've never said why you need the latest jaunty by the way
[04:11] <ddelong4> Anyone here want to help me out with a question?
[04:11] <clrtxt> is plug and play supposed to work out of the box?
[04:12] <keithclark> carpediem, thats the one!
[04:12] <Pyles17> !ask
[04:12] <carpediem> ddelong4: please, just ask
[04:12] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/111945/
[04:12] <carpediem> keithclark: cool
[04:12] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: want to see if latest nvidia drivers makes kde go better
[04:12] <Zard0z> OK, in less smutty language! "zcat initrd.gz | cpio -i"  works fine if my current dir is the one I want to unzip it into, is there any way to make this output to an arbitrary folder other than cd'ing into it first?
[04:12] <keithclark> carpediem, is that permanent?
[04:12] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, ok, the same for the kernel module source
[04:12] <wolter> hi, i get this error when trying to run etracer " X11 driver not configured with OpenGL"
[04:13] <ddelong4> Lol, okay. After installing Ubuntu, I just realized that I cannot burn or read any type of disk. I cannot mount nor open them.
[04:13] <bruenig> wolter: pretty straight forward what the problem is there
[04:13] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: whats the package?
[04:13] <nickrud> nvidia-180-kernel-source
[04:13] <wolter> bruenig, what do you mean?
[04:13] <bruenig> ddelong4: what happens when you try?
[04:13] <carpediem> keithclark: pulseaudio is alpha at best, they never should've included it as the default in Ubuntu.  It needs the occasional kick in the butt....especially after things like hibernate, hung flash player, etc.
[04:13] <ddelong4> One moment.
[04:13] <bruenig> wolter: the error message is quite explicit
[04:14] <keithclark> carpediem, cool!  Again, is this fix permanent?
[04:14] <wolter> bruenig, well, it may be for you, but do you have any idea of how could I fix it? my xorg.conf has nvidia as driver.
[04:14] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/111946/
[04:14] <wolter> bruenig, I use compiz...
[04:14] <carpediem> keithclark: I have to run that command every so often....so if you lose sound again, run it.
[04:14] <ddelong4> This is what I get when I try to mount. Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:14] <keithclark> carpediem, excellent now that I know that!
[04:15] <incadudeF> hello everyone im getting this when trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[04:15] <jeancalvin> what's the different between a PATCH cable and an ETHERNET cable?
[04:15] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 . That should install the new one, and build the kernel module from that last package
[04:15] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  2 wires are crossed over.
[04:15] <jeancalvin> I need to buy a cable that connects from router to back of my computer
[04:15] <carpediem> keithclark: you can always remove pulseaudio from your system, but then you are no longer running "ubuntu-desktop" which I definitely don't recommend.
[04:15] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: roger roger
[04:15] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: which do i need?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  normal cable woll work
[04:15] <bruenig> wolter: program must be wrong then, edit the source code of it so it doesn't trip that error
[04:15] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: which is normal?
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, yeah sure, like
[04:16] <bruenig> !info etracer
[04:16] <wolter> ..i am an expirienced coder..
[04:16] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,    normal ethernet cable.. the ones you will find 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the time
[04:16] <bruenig> what is etracer
[04:16] <keithclark> carpediem, I will deal with the problem with the cl you gave me for the time being
[04:16] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis:  so i do NOT need patch?
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, i got it from the add/remove
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, extreme tux racer
[04:16] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: now if the kernel gets upgraded am i going to have issues?
[04:16] <jeancalvin> Are you saying, Dr_willis, that I need ETHERNET cable?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  unless ya got some old hardwqare/special needs. Not likely
[04:16] <herb> Dr_willis: I'm not sure the ratio is quite *that* high.
[04:17] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, the new kernel system should autobuild this stuff for you now. But it's good to keep in mind
[04:17] <herb> that's a lotta 9s
[04:17] <jeancalvin> pls confirm, coz i'm buying online.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  for a PC to PC network  WithOUT gigiabit cards.. you need a patch cable
[04:17] <bruenig> wolter: yeah well if you are using compiz it must be that you have opengl, so if that program is throwing that error, you need to patch it
[04:17] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: RE: gigabit cards--- do I have those?
[04:17] <bruenig> wolter: there may be a force option to it also, you might see
[04:17] <kansan> when i try:   autossh -i /root/.ssh/chef_tunnel -p 24000 -nNT -R 6400:localhost:4000<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... then: telnet localhost 6400; i get Connection Refused
[04:17] <rory096> if i reinstall firefox, will all my addons be deleted?
[04:17] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: in my computer, i have a NIC card
[04:17] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: only one more -- and if it does break stuff and i am stuck in CL, how can i go back to the default intrepid driver?
[04:18] <carpediem> rory096: no, they are stored in your profile in your home directory
[04:18] <rory096> carpediem: thanks. does that also go for files the addons use (like sessions for sessionmanager, etc)?
[04:18] <incadudeF> anyone?
[04:18] <wolter> bruenig, ok
[04:18] <carpediem> rory096: yes
[04:18] <ddelong4> So, anyone know why I can't mount either of my 2 cd/dvd rw drives?
[04:18] <rory096> carpediem: thanks
[04:18] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, does this card work with the normal nv (free) video driver?
[04:18] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: i'm buying online, so i can't get customer service as well as in a store. thanks.
[04:18] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: nooooooooo
[04:18] <albuntu> ari_stress: ok i solved this problem. now the strange thing is that the browser gives me a php file output instead of executing the php file
[04:19] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, ah, glad I asked :) .
[04:19] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i understand
[04:19] <hvgotcodes> ;)
[04:19] <herb> jeancalvin: post the link to the cable you're trying to buy?
[04:19] <carpediem> rory096: if you look at .mozilla/firefox you'll see all your stuff in some form or another.  You can even back that folder up if you are concerned.
[04:20] <Pyles17> is there a liveCD for powerpc macs? or is the alternate installer a liveCD as well?
[04:20] <jeancalvin> herb: http://tinyurl.com/bffcc3
[04:20] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, I would expect that sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180=180.11-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 to do the trick. You probably won't have 3d accell without more work though.
[04:20] <rory096> carpediem: perfect. you, sir, are a god
[04:20] <wolter> bruenig, well, i think i will wine the windows version.. should work flawless, right?
[04:21] <carpediem> rory096: back up the whole .mozilla folder if you do
[04:21] <jeancalvin> herb, that links says "patch" but it does say it will conect computer to cable modem/router. Dr_willis says i most likely don't need patch. i'm confused
[04:21] <rory096> carpediem: ok
[04:21] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: but i should be able to recover right?
[04:21] <herb> jeancalvin: that will be fine for what you're trying to do.
[04:21] <jeancalvin> i see
[04:21] <carpediem> rory096: you can even copy that .mozilla folder to other computers, even Windows, and your settings/themes/extensions/bookmarks will go with it.
[04:21] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, what that does is force apt to install that exact version number: refer to the apt-get policy that I had you pastebin, that's where the number comes from.
[04:22] <kansan> how do i make 'while true ; do  ssh HOST ; done'   ... occur on every system startup (ubuntu hardy)
[04:22] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i get it.  you have been awesome and i really appreciate all the help.
[04:22] <albuntu> i have an apache problem. i get apache to give me the output of a php file instead of executing the file. anyone that can help ?
[04:22] <bruenig> wolter: don't use wine when there is a native version
[04:22] <Zard0z> jeancalvin, you almost never need a patch cable for domestic networking stuff - the devices tend to be able to autodetect and use either - it would be very odd if you needed a patch cable to connect a domestic router to a domestic modem.
[04:22] <wolter> bruenig, well, it doesn't work...
[04:22] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, if there's a kernel mismatch, the driver should still work, just not have 3d acceleration. At that point, you'd still need to do kernel surgery, and I'm not positive without actually doing it myself or seeing a system in that condition what steps would be needed
[04:22] <bruenig> wolter: fix it
[04:23] <herb> Pyles17: there is a livecd for powerpc. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/intrepid/release/
[04:23] <wolter> bruenig, help me to
[04:23] <carpediem> kansan: look at /etc/rcX.d where X is the runlevel you want it to run at
[04:23] <Pyles17> herb, thanks
[04:23] <j-b-r> what is the xf86-video-savage package for? Will it help fix my nVidia kernel modules (as I was told by someone)?
[04:23] <incadudeF> hello everyone im getting this when trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[04:23] <herb> Pyles17: sorry, not live CD, install CD.
[04:23] <bruenig> wolter: just crack open vim on the source, you should be able to search for that error message and then remove the conditional statement that leads to it
[04:23] <carpediem> kansan: if you put it in there and chmod +x it will run at that runlevel on startup
[04:23] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: when i tried to do a CL install of the nvidia driver from the nvidia package i encountered a api mismatch -- the x server wouldn't start so i  had to remove the new driver, and everything worked
[04:24] <Pyles17> herb: that's what i thought, thanks anyway
[04:24] <wolter> bruenig, its not a warning, its an error.
[04:24] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, from the nividia site?
[04:24] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: would not forcing an install of the default (proprietary) driver for intrepid restore everything to  normal?
[04:24] <rory096> oh wait, nevermind
[04:24] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes from teh nvidia site
[04:24] <Pyles17> i don't think they make liveCDs for powerpc. it's not even officially supported
[04:24] <herb> Pyles17: if you want a live CD there is one for hardy which is the latest LTS. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/
[04:24] <rory096> i think i just found out why firefox isn't working: i have 0 bytes of free space on my hard drive
[04:24] <herb> Pyles17: the desktop CD is a livecd.
[04:24] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, all things being equal, yes. But the equal is the question:)
[04:24] <miik> aehhhhhhhhhh
[04:25] <Pyles17> herb: thank you
[04:25] <rory096> in related news, i'm an idiot
[04:25] <bruenig> wolter: like I said, search for the error message in the source and remove the conditional statement that triggers it
[04:25] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: well i have another machine with irc ;)  thanx again for all the help -- normal guys like me wouldn't be able to tinker like this easily without help from people like you
[04:25] <herb> Pyles17: it's not officially supported, but I'm running it on an old G4, though as a server, not a desktop.
[04:25] <Zard0z> @rory096 - LOL
[04:25] <nickrud> rory096, if you were an idiot, you'd still be angry at us cuz we couldn't fix your firefox :)
[04:25] <raz0o0x> wondering is someone could help: I have ubuntu 8.04.. sometime within the past two weeks my system started stopping while doing any of the following: logging out, restarting, shutting down... each time I have to press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to complete the action
[04:25] <herb> Pyles17: I know the intrepid CDs had some issues.  so installing/testing from hardy is probably the best plan anyway.
[04:26] <Pyles17> herb: cool cool. thanks. issues aren't good when trying to get people to switch
[04:26] <kindofabuzz> raz0o0x, sounds like something isn't terminating, don't know what butthat's what it sounds like
[04:26] <herb> Pyles17: really not
[04:26] <herb> Pyles17: good luck
[04:26] <rory096> nickrud: heh. thanks for your help.
[04:26] <Pyles17> herb: thanks
[04:27] <racecar-56> hi people
[04:27] <herb> Pyles17: welcome