[03:19] <KarlosII> rar comes pacakged with it
[03:19] <Stormx2> really?
[03:19] <Stormx2> hmm.
[03:19] <Manifold> What's with the padlock on a .deb file on my desktop?
[03:19] <KarlosII> lemme dbl cehck that
[03:19] <Manifold> What does it mean?
[03:19] <Toma-> Manifold: you probably downloaded it with root?
[03:20] <Manifold> I just clicked and downloaded it from FF.
[03:20] <Toma-> hmm
[03:20] <Manifold> But I did use sudo mv on it
[03:20] <xukun> which bittorrent client are u guys/gils using?
[03:20] <KarlosII> Stormx2: it mus because I dun have any of those pacakges installed u mentioned
[03:21] <alexwillmer> Manifold, the padlock means read only IIRC, right click and choose properties, then set permissions if you're the owner
[03:21] <Toma-> Manifold: there u go
[03:21] <Toma-> actually, mv should change ownership
[03:21] <Toma-> *shouldnt
[03:21] <Manifold> Hm.
[03:21] <Manifold> What's the delete command?
[03:21] <Chousuke> rm
[03:21] <gorski> my sorround players are not working, maybe some idea, please?
[03:22] <Manifold> KK,
[03:22] <Toma-> rm
[03:22] <KarlosII> sudo mv will change ownership
[03:22] <alexwillmer> Manifold, if you used sudo mv, then root is the owner of the file, use sudo chown to make yourself the owner
[03:22] <Hendikins> I must be crazy. Writing docs for a distro I don't use, then putting them in the wiki :P
[03:23] <KarlosII> lol
[03:23] <KarlosII> Hendikins: u're work is mucha ppreciated
[03:23] <gorski> tnx
[03:24] <Manifold> How do I install .deb files?
[03:24] <Toma-> Hendikins: what are u writing a wiki about?
[03:24] <Manifold> I know you guys diapprove of it, but I want to try..
[03:24] <Toma-> Manifold: dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:24] <Manifold> Thanks.
[03:24] <Pygi> Lotusleaf: ping
[03:25] <Toma-> Manifold: .deb files are fine. aslong as theyre for ubuntu, not debian.
[03:25] <Hendikins> Toma-: I wrote this quick and nasty doc, and I've had a request to wikify it: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html
[03:25] <Hendikins> and hey, what else am I going to do at 0125?
[03:25] <raphink> Manifold: why do you want to install a deb file?
[03:25] <alexwillmer> xukun, just gnome-bittorrent for casual stuff. I'd use Azureus if I weredoing it seriously
[03:26] <Manifold> Because I want to install Mahogany Mail
[03:26] <Draken> !usb
[03:26] <ubotu> No idea, Draken
[03:26] <Draken> how do u mount a usb harddrive ?
[03:26] <xukun> alexwillmer, thanks
[03:26] <Pygi> with mount
[03:26] <Pygi> Draken, I told you that 50 times :/
[03:26] <Pygi> Lotusleaf: ping
[03:26] <Manifold> Errors all over the place, never mind then. :/
[03:26] <Draken> err ,its my first time asking
[03:26] <Toma-> Hendikins: imho, there a heck of alot of this stuff on the wiki forums at the moment anyway... what hasnt been done (that i know of) is a pictorial/screenshot wiki using synaptic to enable universe and add packages like these.
[03:26] <alexwillmer> Dr_Acemaster, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 assuming 4 or 5 things about your situation
[03:26] <phreak97> ok, i have archive manager working rar's now
[03:26] <phreak97> thanks
[03:27] <alexwillmer> sorry Draken
[03:27] <Pygi> Draken: mount /dev/sdX location
[03:27] <Hendikins> Toma-: The AddingRepositoriesHowto doesn't cover enabling them adequetely?
[03:28] <Manifold> It kind of installed Mahogany Mail, but didn't.
[03:28] <Manifold> Synaptic found it, but said it was broken.
[03:28] <stark-johan> I downloaded a deb-file from the forums, how do I install it? (gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb)
[03:28] <Pygi> stark: dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:28] <Mabus06> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[03:28] <Pygi> huh, yes, sudo thingy :P
[03:29] <Toma-> Hendikins: i spose. but i think it needs to go further :)
[03:29] <Stormx2> ;-) I always forget that one
[03:29] <Pygi> stormx: hehe :)
[03:29] <Hendikins> Toma-: The main reason I wrote the plugindoc page was as an extension of my own documentation. I quite honestly hate wikis.
[03:29] <Mabus06> Toma-, that's the beauty of a wiki... go ahead.
[03:30] <Manifold> How does someone change a .deb file built for debian to a ubuntu one?
[03:30] <KarlosII> lol
[03:30] <Manifold> Is it very hard?
[03:30] <KarlosII> Manifold: why?
[03:30] <Pygi> KarlosII: what is it now? :P
[03:30] <Toma-> Hendikins: same.
[03:30] <Toma-> Mabus06: id love too but im too busy :/
[03:30] <allison_1984> stark > dpkg -i gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb
[03:30] <Manifold> Because there are some programs that don't have a compile binary for ubuntu.
[03:30] <KarlosII> Pygi: lol@mabus
[03:30] <Manifold> compiled, KarlosII
[03:30] <omerlh> How can I load usb modules?
[03:30] <raphink> Manifold: this is either synching or merging
[03:30] <fizzle> my fluxbox runs slow when switching styles and stuff how do i fix this
[03:30] <Pygi> Karlos: what he did?
[03:31] <Hendikins> Toma-: I've had the odd request to wikify plugindoc.mozdev.org - and as I say every time, "over my dead body"
[03:31] <jase> help please :( i've set up my network card, it's enabled in network settings and i can ping other network computers, but i can;t access the internet.
[03:31] <raphink> s/synching/syncing/
[03:31] <Pygi> ubotu tell fizzle about fluxbox
[03:31] <KarlosII> manifold u can the backport depository which will have it
[03:31] <Pygi> !patience
[03:31] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:31] <Mabus06> What did I do, KarlosII?
[03:31] <bipolar> I think amarok can do ipod syncing too
[03:31] <Manifold> Aha..
[03:31] <KarlosII> Mabus06: your wiki comment
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: if there's no change to apply to the deb, then we just sync it with Debian
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: if there are things to change in the deb, then we merge it
[03:31] <Hendikins> Toma-: Valid question though. What existing document on the wiki is a one stop doc for installing Firefox plugins?
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: come to #ubuntu-motu to talk about that
[03:31] <Manifold> And how do you do all that, raphink ?
[03:31] <Manifold> OK
[03:32] <KarlosII> motu?
[03:32] <stark-johan> YEAY! I got it working. I compiled gtkpod from source and now it works! I only can find one song but atleast i can open the ipod in gtkpod.
[03:32] <KarlosII> what is motu?
[03:32] <Toma-> Hendikins: id say alot of ubuntu'ers will look to firefox for supplying that info.
[03:32] <Chousuke> Masters of the universe
[03:32] <__Dwayne> anyone at all know why some windows display too large for my screen resolution (1024x768) and how I can resize them?
[03:32] <Chousuke> ;P
[03:32] <Pygi> kARLOS: universe keepers :) they hold the key :)
[03:32] <Pygi> !motu
[03:32] <ubotu> I heard motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[03:32] <raphink> KarlosII: motu = Masters of the Universe
[03:32] <raphink> ;)
[03:33] <raphink> the devs behind the universe repository
[03:33] <Hendikins> Toma-: Guess who maintains the docs used on that end? Yours truly.
[03:33] <Pygi> they should be named keepers of the universe :/
[03:33] <Toma-> Hendikins: nice job :)
[03:33] <deltron> the restaraunt at the end of the universe
[03:33] <deltron> ;)
[03:34] <Hendikins> Toma-: However, I maintain generic instructions, which is where the doc I whipped up comes in to play.
[03:34] <Toma-> i see
[03:34] <Hendikins> That doc is ubuntu-specific instructions for ubuntu users
[03:34] <norwix>  hey ^^
[03:35] <Toma-> Hendikins: well it looks nice!
[03:35] <Hendikins> I'll whip up one for SuSE (the distro I use myself), probably fedora, and possibly Gentoo as well.
[03:35] <Draken> does anyone know how to do commands at startup ??? automaticly
[03:35] <Pygi> Draken: cron?
[03:35] <Pygi> !cron
[03:35] <ubotu> Pygi: Not a clue
[03:35] <Hendikins> The folks in #debian have managed to put me off-side a bit though, so *shrug*
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: what kind of commands?
[03:36] <Toma-> sif cron
[03:36] <Draken> toma
[03:36] <Draken> console commands
[03:36] <Pygi> Hendikins: what happened?
[03:36] <Pygi> Toma: heh ;
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: like "sudo blah"?
[03:36] <Draken> ya
[03:36] <Toma-> or like "killall esd"
[03:36] <blue-frog> Draken, system>pref>session
[03:36] <Draken> its all the same thing
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: what command..?
[03:36] <cvt|gnuyear> how do i keep xine from resizing the window for me?
[03:36] <Hendikins> Pygi: I get somewhat pissy about them patching it up the wazoo then sending users upstream for support (given upstream = #firefox on moznet, and I'm basically in charge of it)
[03:36] <Draken> toma
[03:36] <Draken> brtctl coammnds
[03:36] <laIaidoka> Toma- I used to write that one all the time, but these days you can disable esd from the menus
[03:37] <Manifold> Hey, is sudo a debian specific command too?
[03:37] <cvt|gnuyear> when i go from movie track to movie track in a folder i want to keep the screen size of xine the same, how?
[03:37] <laIaidoka> Manifold: nope
[03:37] <laIaidoka> it is standard...
[03:37] <Pygi> Hendikins: huh, thats bad :/
[03:37] <Hendikins> Yeah, sudo(8) is standard
[03:37] <Draken> brtctl coammnds
[03:37] <Toma-> Draken: System > Preferences > Sessions
[03:37] <Manifold> http://www.ss64.com/
[03:38] <Manifold> That says it's OSX.
[03:38] <Toma-> then click startup programs
[03:38] <Pygi> lotusleaf: ping pong?
[03:38] <xxenon> how/what defines the smtp daemon used to send emails using the "mail" command ?
[03:38] <Draken> toma
[03:38] <Hendikins> Pygi: As the #firefox SOP (the "founder" is the services admin, who doesn't use the channel), I find it somewhat annoying having to redirect users back to downstream. Doesn't help the users either.
[03:38] <Draken> im in kubuntu
[03:38] <Toma-> ahhh
[03:39] <Pygi> Hendikins: true :/
[03:39] <Toma-> make a script with the command in it, then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:39] <zalaam> hi, gnome don't work anymore, if i start the comp i get to the login manager and then it just stops after i've logged in :-(
[03:39] <omerlh> How can I load usb modules?
[03:39] <Pygi> zalaam: reconfigure X server
[03:39] <Draken> Toma-,  wat *. is script ?
[03:39] <Pygi> omerlh: modprobe
[03:39] <Pygi> !modprobe
[03:39] <ubotu> Pygi: Are you on ritalin?
[03:40] <Toma-> zalaam: have you tried "Failsafe Gnome" under the login screen sessions list?
[03:40] <Pygi> yes, I am, stop saying thing like that :P
[03:40] <omerlh> It said module don't exite or something
[03:40] <omerlh> FATAL: Module usb_uhci not found
[03:40] <zalaam> Toma-: mm, don't work, i'm in "failsafe terminal" now
[03:40] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu over network?
[03:40] <Toma-> zalaam: try looking at ~/.xsessionerrors
[03:41] <kino-tak> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[03:41] <Pygi> Johnstar: yes
[03:41] <kids> dido
[03:41] <Draken> Toma-,
[03:41] <greenpenguin13> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
[03:41] <zalaam> Toma-: okei, thanx, brb
[03:41] <Draken> wat is a script files . wat ?
[03:41] <kids> huh?
[03:41] <MASTERMIND2222> hi
[03:41] <kino-tak> why doesnt ubuntu come with "mail" command included?
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: um. "cd ~/.kde/Autostart/ && touch drakenscript && chmod +x drakenscript" then put the command into ~/.kde/drakenscript with your favorite text editor
[03:42] <kids> idk yourcrazy
[03:42] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> any online documentation for it Pygi?
[03:42] <Pygi> !network install
[03:42] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Pygi
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: its a little tiny program i guess
[03:42] <jimmy13632> Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?
[03:42] <Pygi> huh :/ just a moment...
[03:42] <Draken> Toma-, , yes dude, but wat file type is it ?.\
[03:42] <Draken> .txt
[03:42] <Draken> .moo
[03:42] <Draken> .cow
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: file extensions mean noting in linux
[03:42] <kino-tak> I need 'mail' shell command for ubuntu
[03:42] <MASTERMIND2222> how to install linux from iso without burning ?
[03:42] <Toma-> it can be a .cow if you want :D
[03:43] <Pygi> Johnstar: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[03:43] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> thanks mate
[03:43] <jimmy13632> Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Pygi> Johnstar: np
[03:43] <Toma-> jimmy13632: demo?
[03:43] <Manifold> Does su have the same affect as sudo?
[03:43] <Pygi> kino: well, install it....
[03:43] <Toma-> Manifold: nope
[03:43] <Pygi> jimmy: you can use CVScedega for free.
[03:43] <jimmy13632> yes from the transgaming website
[03:43] <Manifold> What's the diff?
[03:43] <jimmy13632> it's a timed trial
[03:43] <Pygi> CVScedega is free...
[03:44] <Pygi> go use that :P
[03:44] <kids> idont understand!
[03:44] <kino-tak> ok I'll try
[03:44] <Toma-> Manifold: su uses the root user evironment varables where as sudo uses the users environment
[03:44] <Pygi> kids: huh
[03:44] <gorski> how to automaticly save session???
[03:44] <Manifold> OK, Toma-
[03:44] <slept> I got aproblem with amd64 and libgl :annot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any ideas
[03:44] <jimmy13632> how would you setup CVSCedega, because I have no experience in CVS trees
[03:44] <Pygi> jimmy: huh, just a second, I'll give you link
[03:44] <jimmy13632> ok
[03:45] <gorski> please.
[03:45] <Pygi> jimmy: here you go
[03:45] <Pygi> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:45] <jimmy13632> thanks
[03:45] <Pygi> gorski: you mean when restarting or wat?
[03:45] <gorski> yeas
[03:45] <gorski> yes
[03:46] <gorski> ?
[03:46] <Pygi> you have that little checkbox "save current setup" or whatever
[03:46] <Pygi> and please be patient :P
[03:46] <Pygi> !patience
[03:46] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:47] <FlyingPenguin> hello :)
[03:47] <FlyingPenguin> I have a little problem with a breezy,
[03:47] <Pygi> fire away
[03:47] <lodos> merhaba
[03:47] <lodos> hello
[03:47] <__Dwayne> still has his question about windows that won't display properly.
[03:48] <Pygi> dwayne: huh, yesh :/
[03:48] <FlyingPenguin> The linux is instaklled on an "old" pc, so I disabled many things to increase a little bit the speed...
[03:48] <deltron> ok
[03:48] <Pygi> flyingpenguin: you can "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"
[03:48] <Toma-> gorski: click System > Preferences > Sessions, then check the "Automatically save sessions" and OK
[03:48] <__Dwayne> pygi, some windows don't size properly--I can't see the whole window. Mostly this happens in System Settings..
[03:49] <Pygi> Dwayne: yesh, I know :/
[03:49] <lodos> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:49] <Toma-> FlyingPenguin: i feel like your going to ask a question.... plz hurry it up :D
[03:49] <FlyingPenguin> but now, when I shut down, it don't turn off the power to off by himself, I have to press the power button, what should I make that I had unmade ?
[03:49] <gorski> ok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?
[03:49] <Pygi> Dwayne :please try to run "sudo dexconf:
[03:49] <gorski> tnx, for that one.
[03:49] <Toma-> FlyingPenguin: you turned off acpi didnt you
[03:49] <Pygi> gorski: with rc update?
[03:49] <gorski> yes
[03:49] <Toma-> update-rc.d -f stop ntpupdate ?
[03:50] <__Dwayne> ok.. it came back to a prompt after I entered the sudo pasword
[03:50] <Toma-> or something
[03:50] <FlyingPenguin> Toma-, yes you'r right but I think I turned it on now, how to check this correctly, I used update-rc.d...
[03:50] <blue-frog> gorski, renmae/delte /etc/init.d/ntp
[03:50] <jase> why do i get the error 'you have to type an alias first' when i try and add a DNS
[03:50] <Toma-> blue-frog: dont do that
[03:50] <Pygi> Toma: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:50] <Pygi> bluefrog: no, no, and no :P
[03:50] <blue-frog> Toma-, too late working fine...
[03:50] <Toma-> Pygi: why would someone want to do that?
[03:50] <gorski> again, please.
[03:50] <Pygi> cause, then it would not run :P
[03:50] <slept> is there a special channel for amd64
[03:51] <Pygi> gorski: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:51] <Pygi> In Gnome, you can also deactivate it going to the menu option System -> Administration -> Services
[03:51] <FlyingPenguin> noone ? is there a ncurses tool for managing services (all my services aren't in the grayman phical tool)
[03:51] <FlyingPenguin> *graphical
[03:51] <Toma-> ummm gorski: to disable the update like you asked.... run "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove"
[03:51] <Pygi> huh, Toma :/
[03:52] <mwe> Toma-: it's a good way of turning of a service temporarely since it wont run if it's not executeable
[03:52] <Toma-> "gorski ok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?"
[03:52] <gorski> ok, that was it, tnx!
[03:52] <Toma-> why change permissions? thats just silly.
[03:52] <Pygi> toma: and my solution works well :P
[03:52] <Pygi> tell me why not to change it :P
[03:53] <mwe> Toma-: it's not silly
[03:53] <Toma-> thats a perfectly good system in place. why not use it?
[03:53] <mwe> Toma-: id you use update-rc.d you have to remember what number the service was running as and in what runlevels to add it back
[03:53] <Toma-> and keep a 'proper' system :D
[03:53] <blue-frog> toma cause when u have no internet  connection it takes forefever to load..
[03:54] <Toma-> no. you use defaults
[03:54] <Toma-> blue-frog: im talking about update-rc.d as oposed to rm -rf + chmod hacks
[03:54] <Pygi> toma: you can't get this battle :)
[03:54] <Pygi> this is not a hack :/
[03:54] <Toma-> it is
[03:54] <mwe> Toma-: rm -rf?
[03:55] <Toma-> someone said to rm/mv
[03:55] <Pygi> it's just :  sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:55] <Pygi> no rename/remove
[03:55] <mwe> Toma-: ok that's stupid
[03:55] <Pygi> mwe: agreed
[03:55] <Toma-> youve still got the system calling that command. so in essence, it'll still be slower than using update-rc.d even if it is 0.01ms :D
[03:55] <Pygi> but chmoding works fine :P
[03:56] <FlyingPenguin> no idea, I think that maybe with the defaults option, the acpi is stopped before being used to power off the computer
[03:56] <Pygi> Toma: but it's the better way :P
[03:56] <Toma-> its not!
[03:56] <Toma-> my god.
[03:56] <Toma-> youre all mad
[03:56] <mwe> Toma-: however I like the chmod -x to temporarely disable a service. btw I got the idea from a debian developer on some web page
[03:56] <Pygi> Toma: nobody is mad :P
[03:56] <zix> guys
[03:56] <zix> do you know some good fonts to use for whole GNOME?
[03:56] <zix> i mean, for the titlebar and GTK apps and stuff..
[03:57] <Toma-> bah. im not going to be a commie about it :) do what you will, im not going to fsck my system with that kind of admin
[03:57] <mwe> zix: bitstream-vera
[03:57] <vulturesrow> hey all, what are the reasons to _not_ upgrade to firefox 1.5
[03:57] <zix> bitstream-vera?
[03:57] <Toma-> zix: ubuntu-ttf :D
[03:57] <Pygi> Toma: huh, that is neither hack, neither nothin', it;s good solution
[03:57] <Prozac> Hmmm... need some help, im reading the starter guide to ubuntu in the wiki. In part 8 about GRUB it says i have to go to system -> admin -> boot, but there is no boot in my list...
[03:57] <Toma-> Pygi: like i said.
[03:57] <zix> ubuntu-ttf?
[03:57] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, some extensions that are not ready maybe but it seams to be a good idea however ;)
[03:57] <Toma-> zix: im kidding. its the font the ubuntu title is done with
[03:58] <Pygi> Tome: huh :/ I feel that should be discussed
[03:58] <Toma-> ive got it for my wm font
[03:58] <zix> hmm..
[03:58] <Toma-> Pygi: feel free to discuss it. you wont be hearing my opinion on it anymore
[03:58] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, I just wasnt sure because I thought I read somewhere that it could break some "stuff" in the standard Breezy setup??
[03:58] <zix> Toma-, how to install that font?
[03:58] <slept> which gcc is normaly used with breezy ?4.0 ?
[03:58] <Pygi> Toma: huh, why not? :/
[03:59] <Toma-> Pygi: im not in -offtopic
[03:59] <Pygi> ubotu tell zix about fonts
[03:59] <Pygi> toma: that's not offtopic
[03:59] <zix> i mean where to find it?
[03:59] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, hum I am not familiar with ubuntu so I :x for this ;)
[03:59] <Toma-> zix: i cant remember. ill find it for ya
[03:59] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, you realize this is the #ubuntu channel, right? ;)
[03:59] <zix> Toma-, k, thnx ^_^
[04:00] <Toma-> zix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[04:00] <mwe> Pygi: he just haven't got any good arguements why it's a bad idea, I guess. I think it's a fine solution and at least one debian developer seems to agree
[04:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[04:00] <FlyingPenguin> right right but I just installed ubuntu on my granmother pc, i am most fedora usual...
[04:00] <Toma-> mwe: hahah. :) whatever.
[04:00] <FlyingPenguin> hi Inf3ctedFx
[04:01] <zix> 404 error :{
[04:01] <FlyingPenguin> (and sorry for my crappy english....I'm french)
[04:01] <Pygi> mwe: k
[04:01] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, ok I'll forgive you ;)
[04:01] <Toma-> zix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle maybe?
[04:02] <Pygi> mwe: Altought I never had the need to remove it on any of servers I installed, servers get reebot like every 2 years anyway :P
[04:02] <zix> Toma-, no i mean the download link is 404
[04:02] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, huhu isn't english tje international language ? ^^
[04:03] <Toma-> zix: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-ubuntu-title/ttf-ubuntu-title_0.1-1_all.deb
[04:03] <zix> Toma-, thnx ^^
[04:03] <Toma-> np =^.^=
[04:04] <zix> alright
[04:05] <zix> Toma-, what font size do you use with it? and do you use it around your whole interface?
[04:05] <Draken> where can i get on-board sound card drivers
[04:05] <Draken> sound coming out of linux is really bad
[04:05] <Toma-> zix: i only use it for the window title
[04:05] <Toma-> and its about 12
[04:05] <zix> Toma-, k
[04:06] <FlyingPenguin> oho I foud something on google let's test it...
[04:06] <Draken> where can i get on-board sound card drivers
[04:06] <Draken> sound coming out of linux is really bad
[04:06] <Draken> !sound
[04:06] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:06] <Toma-> Draken: how do you mean "really bad"?
[04:06] <Draken> !sounddrivers
[04:06] <ubotu> Draken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:06] <zix> Toma-, and for the rest? i mean, Sans gets bored
[04:06] <Draken> Toma-, , scratchy
[04:07] <jenda> Yo folkes - I need a little help with my NVIDIA driver.
[04:07] <vicky> hallo iedereeen
[04:07] <zix> hoi vicky
[04:07] <mcquaid> hello all, i've had alsa audio issues ever since upgrading from hoary to breezy which i have not been able to resolve
[04:07] <Toma-> zix: i dunno :) have a look around http://www.acidfonts.com/ for something cool
[04:08] <zix> Toma-, yea cuz i got all sorts of fonts here but they're only of use in designs
[04:08] <mcquaid> i was in the #alsa channel last night and crimsun tried to help me, but he couldn't resolve it either
[04:08] <mwe> !tell mcquaid about nvidia
[04:08] <jenda> I updated the kernel, and X won't work with the driver on anymore.
[04:08] <Toma-> Draken: open up a mixer (alsamixer is my favorite) and check to see if PCM or Master isnt set to 100. set them both to about 74/80 area.
[04:08] <mwe> !tell jenda about nvidia
[04:08] <Toma-> zix: ahh
[04:08] <mwe> mcquaid: wrong nick, sorry :)
[04:08] <mcquaid> np
[04:09] <Toma-> zix: plain and simple is best for a general font.
[04:09] <jenda> mwe: thanks, but I'm in CLI now... any tips for CLI browsers?
[04:09] <mcquaid> well basically, i get choppy audio when using alsa, either by hardware or dmix, but strangely esd via alsa or oss emulation is fine
[04:09] <zix> Toma-, yup and where to find those? ^^
[04:09] <diederick> hi there
[04:09] <Toma-> hehe
[04:09] <mcquaid> alsa doesn't always give me choppy audio, it's seem dependant on the rate of the file
[04:10] <mwe> jenda: what do you mean. like a web browser? w3m or lynx
[04:10] <Toma-> zix: the default fonts are pretty plain and simple. just click thru them till you find something
[04:10] <slept> jenda: links2 -g
[04:10] <__Dwayne> pygi: I ran the command, it did nothing
[04:10] <fizzle> hey what is roots default password because i cant login as root
[04:10] <diederick> I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 (i386) on a AMD 1000mhz, computer, but its 'hanging' on "Detecting hardware....", how long should I wait?
[04:10] <fizzle> it never asked me during the setup to put in a password for root
[04:10] <Draken> where can i get drivers for sound card onboard
[04:10] <zix> Toma-, and something new?
[04:10] <mwe> jenda: yeah or elinks. w3m should be installed be default
[04:10] <mcquaid> there is no root by default fizzle
[04:11] <fizzle> mcquaid, o because it keeps asking me to put in roots password
[04:11] <gnomefreak> diederick, on that step should only take a few secs to a min
[04:11] <mcquaid> by default the first user has admin privledges via sudo
[04:11] <jenda> OK, thx
[04:11] <mwe> there is indeed root by default, but he doesn't have a password
[04:11] <diederick> hmm strange, what can be the problem than?
[04:11] <mcquaid> it should never actually ask you for root, it should be saying your password
[04:11] <Toma-> zix: no idea. i just use sans. :(
[04:11] <zix> Toma-, :{
[04:11] <zix> anyone else?
[04:11] <diederick> also my keybord doesn't 'work' anymore...
[04:11] <Pygi> Dwayne: restart X server
[04:11] <Draken> fizzle,  if it asks for root password
[04:11] <Draken> u are installing server
[04:11] <zix> some font for general use which is something new?
[04:11] <Draken> not normal
[04:11] <fizzle> please enter roots password to run gdmsetup
[04:11] <diederick> no
[04:12] <fizzle> yes it is server
[04:12] <diederick> oh
[04:12] <Draken> lol told u
[04:12] <Draken> server will ask for root
[04:12] <fizzle> i installed server mode for optimized performance
[04:12] <Draken> lol
[04:12] <Draken> noob ;P
[04:12] <fizzle> becuz of my memory issues
[04:12] <fizzle> so :/
[04:12] <vicky> hallo iedereen
[04:12] <Draken> server is for SERVERs
[04:12] <Draken> :P
[04:13] <dukebody> hello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-
[04:13] <fizzle> Draken, not exactly. there is a wiki page for people with low memory and they specifically tell you to use server mode
[04:13] <zix> opentype ^_^
[04:13] <vicky> hello everybody
[04:13] <cycom> Draken: a system is whatever you make it.
[04:13] <butcherbird> fizzle: u might just apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <fizzle> butcherbird,  and that is?
[04:13] <Draken> fizzle, server just means it isnt set up for you
[04:13] <Draken> no DE or anything
[04:13] <gnomefreak> xfce meta package :))
[04:13] <fizzle> Draken,  thats wat i wanted
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, so i can install it myself
[04:14] <vicky> tz
[04:14] <Draken> lol
[04:14] <Draken> gay :P
[04:14] <vicky> ja
[04:14] <vicky>  :d
[04:14] <pery> how i can patch madwifi drivers for monitor mode????????
[04:14] <diederick> gnomefreak, do you maybe know why the install isn't working? it stops sometimes at the keyboard selection, and hardware detection
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, it may be to you but not me.
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, also im not a noob so pls dont imply it ;)
[04:15] <Draken> sure u not :P
[04:15] <gnomefreak> diederick, is it a disk you burned?
[04:15] <fizzle> hehe ive been programming in linux for over a year and a half now ;)
[04:15] <diederick> yes I burned it on a CD-R
[04:15] <mwe> pery: unless google can help you find a patch that does what you want, you gotta edit the source code yourself, I guess
[04:15] <vicky> eej
[04:15] <gnomefreak> diederick, what speed did you burn it on?
[04:15] <vicky> twenty four
[04:15] <pery> mwe ok :D
[04:16] <cycom> fizzle: Ah, but it is no quantity, but quality.
[04:16] <diederick> 16x
[04:16] <fizzle> cycom, heh
[04:16] <gnomefreak> diederick,  try burning it again at the lowest speed possible
[04:16] <zix> ahh
[04:16] <fizzle> anyways
[04:16] <zix> so their name is screenfonts
[04:16] <diederick> but do you think its a CD problem?
[04:16] <sire1__> is it possible to install debian packages with dpkg -i without having any problems with dependencies and so on..?
[04:16] <zix> Toma-, search for "screenfonts" ^_^
[04:16] <vicky> LAURA RULEZZZ
[04:16] <fizzle> im new to ubuntu so is there a different routine for installing the nvidia graphics drivers?
[04:16] <cycom> Draken: what do you do with your machine(s)?
[04:16] <butcherbird> fizzle: you wanted to enable root pass?
[04:16] <vicky> oeps :s
[04:16] <diederick> I can boot from the CD,
[04:16] <fizzle> butcherbird, yes
[04:16] <Draken> cycon, mostly programming in linux
[04:17] <Draken> and windows for games
[04:17] <luis_> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:17] <cycom> Draken: what kind of programming?
[04:17] <fizzle> Draken, ahhh i use linux for games, so much better even in cedega
[04:17] <mwe> fizzle: did you read the nvidia wiki?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> diederick, well its either that or bad iso image i dont think its the pc since it stops at different places
[04:17] <fizzle> mwe, nope thats why im here trying to find a link to it
[04:17] <Draken> cedega doesnt work with ubuntu dont think
[04:17] <cortez_> how do i make iptables load at boot?
[04:17] <mwe> !tell fizzle about nvidia
[04:17] <zalaam> gnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':0
[04:17] <diederick> ok
[04:17] <fizzle> Draken, im sure it does, just not for you ;)
[04:17] <kino-tak> how do I create a new user guys?
[04:17] <kino-tak> this is easy, come on
[04:17] <mwe> fizzle: see what ubotu /msg'ed you
[04:18] <fizzle> mwe, yeah
[04:18] <fizzle> mwe, ty
[04:18] <Draken> !cedega
[04:18] <ubotu> cedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[04:18] <dukebody> kino-tak, maybe with $adduser
[04:18] <kino-tak> ok, thanx
[04:18] <dukebody> hello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-
[04:18] <cycom> bah.  I haven't got time for games.  I use my machines for work!  Only one of my machines has Windows on it, my laptop, and it dual boots ubuntu!
[04:18] <gnomefreak> diederick, i dont see the errors but i will tell you to burn it slower because its the easiest and alot of people dont know that you need to burn iso at low speeds
[04:18] <jenda> OK, it seems to be installing the driver... but it is also downloading the kernel, which I'm not sure I like... what is the newest 686 linux kernel?
[04:18] <squid0> hi people
[04:19] <zalaam> gnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':0'; most likely the x server was shutdown or you killed/destroyed the window manger. any1 knows what to do? i hate to reinstall, cause i've been working for a week now to get my system up running
[04:19] <diederick> oke thanx gnomefreak!
[04:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:19] <Toma-> kino-tak: System >Admin > Users and groups. Be sure to make the new user with their own /home dir, ad adduser command wont do it by default
[04:19] <diederick> does my computer has to be connected to a network?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> jenda,  stable kernel for ubuntu latest is 2.6.12-10
[04:19] <squid0> i had a normal ubuntu installed, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. however i see that xine and some related packages were removed by synaptic. any ideas why?
[04:19] <__Dwayne> dukebody: I can telnet just fine..
[04:19] <jenda> It is installing Linux-image-1.6.12-10-686... ah thanx gnomefreak
[04:19] <mwe> zalaam: reinstall. why you even think of that. that's the windows way of fixing things
[04:20] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12-10-686 sounds about right jenda if your on breezy that should be your kernel
[04:20] <Fr0Gs> if anyone can help me setup pppoe sharing to windows machines msg me plz
[04:20] <kino-tak> duke: thank you , it works
[04:20] <fizzle> now ubuntu is running alot better just need to get roots password set lol
[04:20] <Toma-> zalaam: try moving .gnome2 and .gconf to a backup dir then restart gnome
[04:21] <zalaam> Toma-: alright, brb
[04:21] <Pygi> gnomfreaky is here :P
[04:21] <gnomefreak> gm Pygi
[04:21] <Pygi> fizzle: do not set root password
[04:22] <Pygi> freak: good afternoon :P
[04:22] <fizzle> Pygi, i need to do something
[04:22] <jenda> gnomefreak, mwe, what does nvidia-config enable do? Does that only change the xorg.conf? If so I prefer not to do it (manually is the way :))
[04:22] <__Dwayne> fizzle: Use sudo..
[04:22] <Pygi> fizzle: no, you don't need it....
[04:22] <gnomefreak> whats wrong with sudo -i?
[04:22] <fizzle> ok nvm then
[04:22] <afief> How can i copy files(not ISOs) to a CD?
[04:22] <Pygi> enabling root account break parts of ubuntu
[04:22] <Pygi> afief: yesh
[04:23] <Pygi> afief: with gnome baker let's say
[04:23] <gnomefreak> afief, what burner are you using?
[04:23] <Pygi> or k3b
[04:23] <diederick> gnomefreak, the LiveCD is for testing right?
[04:23] <Pygi> yesh
[04:23] <afief> pygi: hi dude:) installed KDE today. don't know what burner exactly... DVD+-RW
[04:23] <gnomefreak> diederick, the livecd is used for people that want to try it out before installing it
[04:24] <diederick> Can't I just try that one, and than, if it works put the LiveCD on my maching? Or do I need to downlod the other ubuntu?
[04:24] <Draken> !cedega
[04:24] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[04:24] <Pygi> afief: then use k3b :)
[04:24] <gnomefreak> diederick, if you hardware works with livecd more than likely it will work aftter install :))
[04:24] <zalaam> not working, stops after the login manager
[04:24] <afief> pygi: haven't got time to get around all of KDE:) so a gnome solution would be nice for a starter like me
[04:24] <Pygi> diederick: you need to download install cd for now
[04:24] <Pygi> afief: ok, then use Gnome Baker
[04:25] <diederick> oke, wanna try to set the keyboard map, maybee something is wrong with tha, is "es" a good options for: bootkbd ?
[04:25] <Pygi> diederick: as of 6.04 Ubuntu will feature UbuntuExpress
[04:25] <gnomefreak> afief, use k3b its the easiest atleast for me you can choose if you are burning data music or or image :))
[04:25] <Pygi> !ubuntuexpress
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> !google
[04:25] <ubotu> Pygi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[04:25] <zzzzzzzzzzzzzz> !google
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:25] <Pygi> gnomefreak: same with gnome baker
[04:25] <Draken> err, is tthere someone wrong with ubuntu site ?
[04:25] <Draken> i cant get onto it
[04:25] <Pygi> DO NOT ABUSE UBOTU, NOW STOP IT
[04:25] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:25] <Pygi> Draken: huh, it's all good :/
[04:26] <xukun> how can I copy files from one linux machine to other linux machine on the same network?
[04:26] <Draken> arg
[04:26] <fizzle> dude this is sweet, i switched to ubuntu from slackware and my video card performance in glxgears doubled
[04:26] <Draken> i need to read about cedega
[04:26] <deltron> lol fizzle
[04:26] <fizzle> im dead serious
[04:26] <Pygi> fizzled: well, you didn't knew how to configure it properly :P
[04:26] <zalaam> i need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens
[04:26] <fizzle> Pygi, nope not true, i did what #slackware told me to do lol
[04:26] <hyakuhei> xukun: ftp/scp
[04:27] <Pygi> I use Slackware for 8.5 years now, and it works flawlessly :)
[04:27] <fizzle> slackware is nice
[04:27] <fizzle> i love it ;)
[04:27] <Pygi> fizzle: well, you need to listen to me, not to them :P
[04:27] <fizzle> ubotu, tell me about limewire
[04:27] <hyakuhei> xukun: both good for the odd file
[04:27] <fizzle> Pygi,  lol
[04:27] <Pygi> I use slackware since 2.x so I guess I learned a couple of things :)
[04:27] <deltron> i started out in slack 3.5 way back when
[04:27] <fizzle> Pygi, id say so lol. i been using it since 10.0
[04:28] <fizzle> heh i only been on linux for a year or so now
[04:28] <jenda> OK, I need to know how to check if I have the rught kernel and NVidia driver. Can someone please tell me how? I need to know if it's 686 or 386, and if it's 1.6.12-10 or -9
[04:28] <claudiu> happy new year!
[04:28] <claudiu> hi all!
[04:28] <Pygi> deltron: Slack 3.5? huh :)
[04:28] <athlon> jenda, 'uname -a'
[04:28] <zalaam> jenda: uname -r
[04:28] <claudiu> how can i see what files a deb package contains ?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> jenda, 2.6.12-10 not 1.6.12
[04:28] <Pygi> deltron: slack 2.x series was better :)
[04:28] <afief> pygi: where does gnome baker install? KDE added so much to my gnome menus that i'm having trouble finding anything
[04:29] <Pygi> afief: it doesn't add to menu :/
[04:29] <jenda> gnomefreak yup... :), athlon zalaam thx
[04:29] <gnomefreak> jenda if you want to check what kernel you are using run uname -r
[04:29] <Pygi> somebody is a bad maintainer :/
[04:29] <claudiu> how can i see what files a deb package contains ?
[04:29] <zalaam> i need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens, tried backing up .gnome2 and .gconf, don't work :(
[04:29] <gnomefreak> if you want all info uname -a
[04:29] <Pygi> claudiu, read ubotu speaking
[04:29] <deltron> Pygi: lol, it was like 10 years ago or something :P
[04:29] <Pygi> !patience
[04:29] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:29] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:29] <afief> pygi: what's it's executable name?
[04:29] <claudiu> Pygi: ok
[04:29] <Pygi> deltron: not 10, I would say 9 or like so when there was 2.x series :)
[04:30] <Pygi> afief: gnome baker :)
[04:30] <Toma-> zalaam: looks more deep seeded then. you may need to re-install metacity :S
[04:30] <fizzle> !javadebs
[04:30] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:30] <Draken> can anyone get onto the wiki ?
[04:30] <Pygi> deltron: entire slack is around for 10 years :P
[04:30] <athlon> Can someone please  give me a suggestion, what should I use to edit xvid file, to crop and/or extract audio from it
[04:30] <athlon> I usually use avidemux but theres no package for it in breezy
[04:30] <zalaam> Toma-: alright, brb, reinstalling
[04:30] <Pygi> I never got my hands on Slack 1.0 :(
[04:30] <jenda> OK, now that'll tell me what kernel I'm running ATM, but I have a suspicion that I accidentally just installed 386, how do I know what kernel is set up for next time I boot?
[04:30] <sportman> hey
[04:31] <sportman> if i broke grub
[04:31] <sportman> can i fix it from ubuntu live?
[04:31] <afief> pygi: restarting now to see the KDE interface:) expecting a big surprise
[04:31] <butcherbird> sportman: yes
[04:31] <WildZeck> spo0nman, yes
[04:31] <Pygi> afief: huh, I never liked KDE, but heh :)
[04:31] <sportman> Yey
[04:31] <Pygi> some people do, and I respect their opinion :)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> jenda, look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to see what grub is going to boot to
[04:31] <sportman> also i lost my ubuntu install
[04:31] <Pygi> everybody uses what he/she likes :)
[04:31] <sportman> :(
[04:31] <jenda> k
[04:31] <Pygi> huh :/
[04:32] <claudiu> i would like to know if there is a command for showing all the files that a deb package contains
[04:32] <sportman> but i still want to access my other two operating systems
[04:32] <sportman> but im giving up with ubuntu for now
[04:32] <Pygi> claudiu: go to synaptic, choose package and click properties
[04:32] <gnomefreak> dpkg -L <packagename?
[04:32] <Pygi> and please be patient :P
[04:32] <claudiu> Pygi: ok. thanks
[04:32] <Pygi> deltron: what do you have agains 9 years old distro? :D
[04:32] <butcherbird> claudiu: try dpkg --contents filemane.deb
[04:33] <claudiu> Pygi: this was too easy. i was prepared for the CLI thing
[04:33] <claudiu> :)
[04:33] <Pygi> claudiu: heh, wanna CLI command? :D
[04:33] <deltron> Pygi: lol, nothing. :)  I should try installing it again lol, I still have the cd's
[04:33] <Pygi> deltron: Do you have version 1.0? :)
[04:33] <Pygi> I want that :)
[04:33] <deltron> nope
[04:33] <Pygi> huh :/
[04:34] <jenda> OK... now what is the command to restart GDM?
[04:34] <Pygi> I had 2.x series on a CD *original but lost them :/
[04:34] <Pygi> jenda: just use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[04:34] <butcherbird> jenda: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:34] <jenda> thx butcherbird
[04:34] <afief> pygi: i can't chose KDE:( it automaticly started gnome
[04:34] <mcquaid> hey i read on a general linux tips article that ctrl alt esc usually starts up the xkill option
[04:34] <Pygi> afief: you need to make it start kde :)
[04:35] <afief> how?
[04:35] <mcquaid> that would be kinda handy
[04:35] <Pygi> have you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[04:35] <mcquaid> doesn't work here though
[04:35] <fizzle> ubotu, repositories
[04:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:35] <afief> pygi: nope, did apt-get kde
[04:35] <Pygi> afief: hehe, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <Pygi> huh, you also need kde-base, and configure it to run
[04:36] <afief> pygi: and what is kubuntu-live?
[04:36] <Pygi> huh,nothing for now :)
[04:36] <Draken> can someone help me, i downloaded cedega binary, i type SH filename it seems to uncompress but thats it
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu with kde livecd
[04:36] <Pygi> gnomefreak: no, thats not it...
[04:36] <trilog> hello
[04:36] <mcquaid> i've been pulling my hair out trying to fix my alsa issues since going to breezy when it was first released
[04:36] <afief> pygi: wow... ever after i installed KDE, i still need 50 MB? that's a lot
[04:36] <Pygi> gnomefreak: thats a dependency of new UbuntuExpress installation
[04:37] <Snurf> When I installed Ubuntu i installed GRUB on the master hard drive and I want it gone! How do i do this?
[04:37] <Pygi> afief: for kubuntu-desktop?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> Pygi, oh ok dont know anything about ubuntuexpress
[04:37] <mcquaid> the strange thing is i've always used my own precompiled kernel and compiled alsa from source, which i kept when going to breezy
[04:37] <Pygi> draken: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:37] <afief> pygi: yes
[04:37] <trilog> i have samba, can somebody tell me howto samba printer share works?
[04:37] <mcquaid> so i don't understand having alsa issues when neither alsa nor the kernel were upgraded
[04:37] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: I was supposed to also developed that thingy :/
[04:37] <Pygi> !patience
[04:37] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:38] <Draken> Pygi, , not that one
[04:38] <Draken> its offical one
[04:38] <butcherbird> Snurf: ?? you want to replace grub on mbr with something else?
[04:38] <cvt|gnuyear> where's bittornado installed?
[04:38] <Snurf> Yes I dont want grub there
[04:39] <Pygi> what do you want then?
[04:39] <slumpy> whats worng?? i have those irritating flashing vertical lines!!! and i cant get rid of them.....
[04:39] <Snurf> Nothing
[04:39] <slumpy> pls help...
[04:39] <Snurf> Slap your monitor
[04:39] <slumpy> =D
[04:39] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, you have to install that gbittorrent is install by default
[04:40] <slumpy> thats not the way to solve this problem
[04:40] <Snurf> I need to know how to remove grub
[04:40] <mcquaid> anyone knowledgeable with alsa issues? specifically i get issues with when using dmix or alsa hw, but strangely not using esd piped through dmix nor oss emulation
[04:40] <gnomefreak> slumpy, it sounds like your video card either isnt configured right or you need drivers for it
[04:41] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:41] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:41] <claudiu> butcherbird: Pygi : ok. thanks guys. you rock
[04:41] <zalaam> okei, tried reinstalling metacity nothing happens
[04:41] <slumpy> so where can i find those drivers its not like i could get those windos using.....
[04:41] <Pygi> claudiu: your welcome :)
[04:41] <jenda> Back, but still can't load X
[04:41] <gnomefreak> slumpy, first what kind of vc do you have?
[04:42] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, i need a bittorrent client that supports resuming downloads and one window for all files.
[04:42] <zalaam> cvt|gnuyear: azureus?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, the one installed by default does if im not mistaken
[04:42] <jenda> Can someone please guide me through the installation of the Nvidia driver module (via CLI?)
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jenda about nvidida
[04:43] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, not on mine, but i have dapper
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jenda  about nvidia
[04:43] <mcquaid> i still use azureus but still find java to be a pig
[04:43] <mcquaid> waiting for ktorrent to be updated
[04:43] <jenda> gnomefreak that won't help, it's still the same
[04:43] <slumpy> uhmmm .. i  dont remember and i dont know where to look..
[04:43] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, i havent used bit on dapper yet but im also on dapper :)
[04:43] <Snurf> I have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.
[04:43] <hyakuhei> !nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:44] <Pygi> !patience
[04:44] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:44] <Pygi> STAND IN LINE AND WAIT FOR ANSWER :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, are you saying it doesnt do what you want or its not there?
[04:44] <butcherbird> jenda: what nvidia card do u have?
[04:45] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, whatever client is there doesn't resume dl's or contain files in one window. apparently neither does tornado.
[04:45] <jenda> butcherbird: GeForce 2
[04:45] <phreak97> can someone help me install azureas?
[04:46] <Pygi> phreak: sure
[04:46] <Pygi> !azureus
[04:46] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:46] <Pygi> !java
[04:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:46] <Pygi> !javadebs
[04:46] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, im not sure than you can try that azureas but its very very java like :((
[04:46] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:46] <butcherbird> jenda: what kernel 686 or 386?
[04:47] <jenda> butcherbird 686, 2.6.12-10, and I have the nvidia-glx-legacy package already installed
[04:47] <Snurf>  I have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.
[04:48] <phreak97> i think i already have java
[04:48] <u|qos> hey guys, i started dctc in a screen console, but i am unable to terminate it ... what can i do?
[04:48] <__Dwayne> pygi, I ran sudo dexconf and nothing happened..
[04:48] <butcherbird> jenda: same as me all I did was sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-686
[04:48] <petros> hi!
[04:48] <petros> i have ubuntu for amd64
[04:48] <petros> now i want to install skype binaries
[04:49] <Syche> snurf: Boot with a Xp disc and press R. Type Fixmbr yo rebuild the MBR
[04:49] <Pygi> Dwayne: yes, I heard :P Have you restarted X?
[04:49] <__Dwayne> pygi: no..how do I do that?
[04:49] <diederick> gnomefreak, its at 77% of detecting hardware now, its loading: ide-generic, (which I think is hanging again :-(
[04:49] <__Dwayne> just reboot??
[04:49] <petros> i get this error: ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:49] <cvt|gnuyear> how advanced to i have to be to get doom 3?
[04:49] <butcherbird> jenda: and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:49] <jenda> Snurf: there are instructions for 1) setting XP as default 2) hiding the grub menu on startup here: ubuntuguide.org but careful, don't use the guide on everything, some things are outdated.
[04:49] <petros> but libpong12.so.0 is in /usr/lib64/ installed
[04:49] <diederick> Why, do you have to burn an iso at a slow speed?
[04:49] <Snurf> I dont have an XP disc
[04:49] <Snurf> My computer came with it
[04:50] <petros> are the 64 bit libs not compatible with 32 bit compiled apps?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> diederick,  to make sure it copies everything
[04:50] <jenda> OK, butcherbird I didn't do the enable. Does that only change the xorg.conf?
[04:50] <diederick> oh oke
[04:50] <Pygi> Dwayne: CTRL+ ALT + BACKSPACE
[04:50] <gnomefreak> diederick, its just one of those rules :))
[04:50] <diederick> and do you know what could be a reason, why its stopping on 77% now?
[04:50] <diederick> at loading module: ide-generic?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> diederick, what kind of harddrives do you have?
[04:51] <phreak97> ok thanks
[04:51] <zix> why is the ubuntu font not included with ubuntu? i mean it's a perfect font for daily use :}
[04:51] <butcherbird> jenda: not sure it thats it or it configures module to load or what
[04:51] <diederick> Its a Maxtor IDE drive 7.5 gb
[04:51] <jenda> Alright... I'll do it then.
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zix about fonts
[04:51] <gnomefreak> diederick, than im not sure why its hanging
[04:51] <pkern> How could I use special keys on my keyboard?
[04:52] <Pygi> gnomefreak; That won't help him :p
[04:52] <kevinz> Hi. I read the wiki and it says firefox from mozilla's site is faster than the one in ubuntu. It is recommended that I replace the default firefox?
[04:52] <diederick> Damn, it also again hanging at the first screen :-(
[04:52] <__Dwayne> pygi Nope..same problem
[04:52] <phreak97> fucking asshole.. settle down after finally getting my tv working with linux, watch one episode of lost, then the one after it is the same one again renamed by some ass...
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i told him to burn it at lower speed that should have helped the issue
[04:53] <phreak97> and with delayed sound
[04:53] <jenda> butcherbird OK, it won't run because my xorg.conf has been edited manually (many times :)) so I dunno what to do...
[04:53] <phreak97> complete waste of space
[04:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: problem with ubuntu font? :)
[04:53] <Pygi> dwayne: huh :/
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Pygi, on no thought you meant someone else
[04:53] <phreak97> this is the reason why im working azureus
[04:54] <Draken> can someone tell me, can i use cedega to run a windows game off a ntfs drive ?
[04:54] <phreak97> Draken,  if you can, you wont be able to save
[04:54] <butcherbird> jenda: maybe sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-old then dpkg --reconfigure xserver-org I think thats the right package
[04:54] <Hendikins> Wouldn't advise it if the game needs to write anything
[04:55] <jenda> And I have nvidia-glx-legacy, I have nvidia-settings and I have the restricted modules....
[04:55] <Draken> phreak97, i can change save path to local drive ?
[04:55] <jenda> ok
[04:55] <phreak97> Draken,  if the game lets you
[04:55] <Hendikins> Draken: How long is a piece of string? Savegames may not be the only files that the game needs to write.
[04:55] <phreak97> things like that rely entirely on the game
[04:55] <phreak97> yeah
[04:55] <phreak97> i was about to say that
[04:56] <Draken> Hendikins, only other thing would be confs
[04:56] <diederick> Hmmmm also suse 10 is hanging on hardware detection
[04:56] <__Dwayne> pygi, it's darned annoying..some things require me to 'click administrator mode' and I can see the button to click it..
[04:56] <Draken> and they my windows confs
[04:56] <Pygi> Dwayne: huh :/
[04:57] <phreak97> Draken, if you can, put the game on a non-ntfs partitions
[04:57] <phreak97> -s
[04:57] <dotrig> Why is my imap dropping sqmail?
[04:57] <Hendikins> Draken: I'd also think trying to use registry data would be problematic.
[04:57] <__Dwayne> thanks for your help anyway..I posted this in kubuntu forums..maybe that will help..
[04:58] <zix> rofl
[04:58] <zix> :o
[04:58] <zix> the ubuntu-title font OWNS
[04:58] <jenda> butcherbird no, that's not the reconf comand. I dunno waht is...
[04:58] <Toma-> zix: yep :)~
[04:58] <zix> only the fact that there's no caps sucks
[04:58] <zix> :{
[04:58] <Toma-> zix: u get used to it
[04:58] <zix> i know :p
[04:59] <zix> also, Toma-, why don't you have the font enabled on the rest of your interface?
[04:59] <butcherbird> jenda: ah sorry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <Toma-> zix: it would make me go made.
[04:59] <Toma-> errr
[04:59] <Toma-> mad.
[04:59] <Toma-> zix: what a screenshot? :)
[04:59] <zix> yea
[04:59] <zix> want a screenshot of my desktop? ^_^
[05:00] <jenda> butcherbird yoba thanks :)
[05:00] <Toma-> zix: http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/Screenshot.png
[05:00] <sobersabre> hi
[05:01] <sobersabre> I'm trying to use gdb on amd64 ubuntu and it dies with sigsegv. ( yes, gdb dies, not my program ) anyone has any idea about this ?
[05:01] <Kindred> does anyone know of any (relatively simple) way to shrink dvd's so I can burn them to single layer dvd :|
[05:01] <sobersabre> Kindred, not without quality loss.
[05:01] <Toma-> Kindred: you could use acidrip
[05:01] <zix> WOW wtf
[05:02] <zix> Toma-, that's beautifull!
[05:02] <Kindred> sobersabre: yeah obviously :P
[05:02] <Toma-> zix: thanks :)
[05:02] <Kindred> Toma-: will check it out thanks..
[05:02] <zix> yw :)
[05:02] <sobersabre> dvd::rip, and then encode them as you please
[05:02] <Syche> I have pinned my Java deb, but when I enable the plf repos, it always gives me an option to upgrade it
[05:02] <Toma-> ive got a thing for ambient backgrounds
[05:03] <Syche> Both are the same version
[05:03] <zix> Toma-, what theme you using there? and what programs are those on your toolbar? also, message it in pm since i won't get the time to read it here xD
[05:04] <Toma-> k
[05:04] <sobersabre> any ubuntu developers channels around ?
[05:05] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl again lol
[05:05] <afief> installed kubuntu-desktop. chose kdm to be the default maneger, and though i get a login with lot's of eyecandy, i still load into gnome
[05:05] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, not really atleast #ubuntu-devel isnt open
[05:06] <JoeBloe> anyone know anything about ubuntu rebooting when gnome loads using the 686-smp kernal?
[05:06] <afief> JoeBloe: at least not with my 686 kernel... don't know about smp though
[05:06] <Inf3ctedFx> not really
[05:07] <etech> hi, i have a problem with samba...
[05:07] <Inf3ctedFx> does someone use the VMWare?
[05:07] <defendguin> is the double click to install a deb file going to go into backports?
[05:07] <jenda> brb, rebooting
[05:07] <etech> i have already try in the italian channel
[05:07] <etech> but...
[05:08] <sls> i am a pine user...
[05:08] <gnomefreak> etech, #samba? if noone in here can help but im sure there are a few samba users in here
[05:08] <sls> bu i can not find where to set the default character encodings for the terminal windows...
[05:09] <gnomefreak> sls what term are you using?
[05:09] <sls> gnome terminal.
[05:09] <afief> How do i make KDE my Desktop Maneger, now that kubuntu desktop is installed?
[05:09] <Inf3ctedFx> someone familiar with the VMWare?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> sls they are under the termial menu between veiw and tabs
[05:09] <sls> I use konsole too
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ^^thats for gnome terminal
[05:10] <sls> gnomefreak, that only changes it for that session...
[05:10] <sls> right
[05:10] <phreak97> in azureus i get:
[05:10] <phreak97> Error: Data Missing /media/s/Bittorrent/Incoming/azureas incoming/Lost.S02E04.REAL.HDTV.XviD-TCM/lost.204-tcm.nfo not found.
[05:10] <sls> it does not seem to stick
[05:10] <phreak97> wait
[05:10] <phreak97> hmm
[05:10] <phreak97> yeah, whats with that
[05:11] <phreak97> isnt it meant to create the data?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> sls,  than im not sure how to get it perment sorry
[05:11] <Inf3ctedFx> is anyone familiar with the VMWare? I just go a few questions on the configuration regarding the kernel-headers
[05:11] <Hendikins> phreak97: tsk tsk, piracy
[05:11] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Don't ask to ask, just ask (-:
[05:11] <phreak97> Hendikins, that wasnt my enquiry
[05:11] <Pygi> mvo: pinf
[05:12] <Inf3ctedFx> lol ok Hendikins
[05:12] <phreak97> it says something about setlength
[05:12] <kino-tak> ok guys, this time I'm serious, I have a small problem
[05:12] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, feel free to ask
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> well this is my problem when I try to open the windows on the vmware it show me an error about /dev/vmmon  it said make sure the kernel module "vmmon" is loaded
[05:13] <kino-tak> I login as an ftp user but don't have permission to write in that directory (thank you gnome)
[05:13] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Have you upgraded your kernel since installing vmware?
[05:13] <kino-tak> even if I login from the shell I don't have permission and I dont have my own directory but this doesn't matter
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> nope I upgrade the kernel b4 install vmware Hendikins
[05:14] <kino-tak> if I login as another user I can do anything, so I can still work
[05:14] <gnomefreak> yw kino-tak  chmod will change the permissons of a dir/file
[05:14] <Inf3ctedFx> look Hendikins  this is my /usr/src  --> inf3ctedfx@fx:/usr/src$ ls
[05:14] <Inf3ctedFx> linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686
[05:14] <phreak97> error: operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles [file paths here.. im not typing them] )
[05:14] <kino-tak> chmod +rwx username?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, your not loggin in as a sudoer
[05:14] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :
[05:14] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :?
[05:14] <phreak97> so what do i do?
[05:14] <kino-tak> gnome : no, as a normal user
[05:15] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Do you remember running vmware-config.pl?
[05:15] <kino-tak> gnome : i created a new user to distribute among users and let them login through ftp
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, normal users dont have access to files owned by a sudoer
[05:15] <kino-tak> gnome : I see, so I use chmod?
[05:15] <ubuntu_> no clue anyone :
[05:15] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:15] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm running that again Hendikins  for the second time.. and I got this point  :  What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:15] <Inf3ctedFx> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include]
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> but my path is here Hendikins --> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/include
[05:16] <gnomefreak> unless ofcourse you use sudo chmod :)) to change the ownership and no it wouldnt be user name it would be file name
[05:16] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Leave that as default.
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> it wont work Hendikins
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> I already done that as a default
[05:17] <Hendikins> and what error does it give when you leave the default?
[05:17] <kino-tak> gnome: I tried, it says (username) is not in the sudoers file....this incident will be reported
[05:17] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u something Hendikins
[05:18] <phreak97> fucking what the hell
[05:18] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Remember to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[05:18] <gnomefreak> kino-tak,  than you need to either add your name to the sudoers list or log in as the sudoer
[05:18] <phreak97> why cant azureus create new files?
[05:18] <Inf3ctedFx> I know Hendikins  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6486
[05:18] <Jnx> How do I get the rights to open my NTFS disks? - I can open them as a root, but not as a user.
[05:18] <butcherbird> phreak97: most likely you dont own the dir its trying to save to. something like that
[05:18] <Jnx> Can I give my regular user root access?
[05:19] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  I dont have "include" in that folder
[05:19] <kino-tak> being a sudoer: does it mean, I can use the sudo command?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Jnx, sudo -i
[05:19] <LiGhTeNiN> I got 'error 21' while trying to boot with grub, I did 'fixmbr' under windows recovery console, can someone help me reintsall grub now and get rid of the error 21?
[05:19] <Inf3ctedFx> well I do... but it said is not compatible
[05:19] <Jnx> thanks gnomefreak
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Kindred, for the most part
[05:19] <phreak97> butcherbird, so if i chown it and chmod 755 it, ill be cool?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> not Kindred  sorry i mean kino-tak
[05:19] <Pygi> Lightenin: huh, the easiest is to reinstall ubuntu
[05:19] <Pygi> :/
[05:19] <butcherbird> phreak97: should be all u need to do
[05:19] <LiGhTeNiN> :<
[05:19] <phreak97> actually, im saving it to my home dir
[05:19] <kino-tak> ok gnome, I'll try this too and let you know :-)
[05:20] <gnomefreak> kino-tak,  whos on the sudoers list?
[05:20] <phreak97> butcherbird,  whats then? it doesnt work in my home dir
[05:20] <Jnx> gnomefreak, I still get that I don't have the rights to show HDA1, HDB1 etc.
[05:20] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: what about the 'error 21'? I have to set my linux hdd to auto under bios?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> Jnx, did you mount them yet?
[05:20] <Jnx> yea
[05:20] <Jnx> I can access from my root user
[05:20] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: and uname -a says you're running which kernel version?
[05:21] <Inf3ctedFx> anbd Hendikins  this is one of the other errors I'm getting when I try to run the vmware-config.pl  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6487
[05:21] <Jnx> so I wanna make this user a root. So I don't have to re-configure the looks etc. on my root user.
[05:21] <butcherbird> running azureus as yourself? what about hd space? other than that not sure. maybe u created a dir in home with sudo accidently
[05:21] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  Linux fx 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Jnx, you enabled a root account?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> or sorry root password?
[05:21] <Pygi> lightenin: don't know about that error, but grub is *hard* to fix for a regular user :/
[05:21] <Jnx> gnomefreak, yeah. I use it when I access the harddrives from the root user
[05:21] <Johnny0> Can anyone recommend some commercial help for Ubuntu ?
[05:22] <Pygi> No, do not use root :/
[05:22] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: what do you use lilo or grub?
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Jnx, by root you mean su?
[05:22] <Pygi> Lightenin: I use grub....
[05:22] <phreak97> butcherbird,  no good
[05:22] <LiGhTeNiN> ok
[05:22] <Pygi> Lightenin: Lilo is easier to fix tho :P
[05:22] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Hrm. Ubuntu isn't my native distro, so I'm not really sure what to suggest.  When I do that I can access my harddrives.
[05:23] <Inf3ctedFx> not really Hendikins  which distro r u familliar with?
[05:23] <greenpenguin13> how would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses on ubuntu?
[05:23] <butcherbird> phreak97: hmm sorry
[05:23] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :
[05:23] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD ?
[05:23] <avinoam> can anyone help me troubleshoot a problem with hearing IM sounds in gaim?
[05:23] <Pygi> you cant do t on live cd
[05:23] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: I'm a SuSE user myself. I've been working on some ubuntu-specific bits for some documentation I write, hence being in here.
[05:23] <defendguin> how can i play a wav file through the command line?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Jnx, than i dont know what to say other than to log in as root "i say that very loosely"
[05:24] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, shoot (regarding VMware)
[05:24] <Toma-> defendguin: aplay wave.wav
[05:24] <Hendikins> and I use vmware 5.5 on SuSE
[05:24] <defendguin> Toma-, that uses alsa?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_, the reason for live cd is so you can use ubuntu without installing anything
[05:24] <Toma-> defendguin: yep
[05:24] <greenpenguin13> ubuntu_: you'd have to master you're own CD (dont ask me how :/)
[05:24] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, a friend wrote your question to  me...
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> Here is the error again when I run vmware:  Version mismatch with vmon, module: expectiong 137.0, got 122.0  You have an incorrect version of the "vmmon" kernel module.  Try reinstalling VMWare workstation
[05:24] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13, how?? lol j/k
[05:24] <barrett_> gah
[05:24] <Jnx> gnomefreak, can't I give this-user root rights?
[05:25] <Hendikins> ubuntu_: The short version is "You don't"
[05:25] <avinoam> I don't hear sounds when  i get an IM in Gaim, although according to the options, i should
[05:25] <greenpenguin13> anyone? where would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses?
[05:25] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: You're running 5.5?
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> yes Hendikins
[05:25] <Toma-> Inf3ctedFx: did you rebuild the module?
[05:25] <deltron> greenpenguin13: google your card model
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Jnx, yes but not advisable root/sudo is not something to take lightly
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> I have no idea how to rebuild a module Toma-  xD
[05:25] <Toma-> oh :(
[05:25] <Hendikins> Toma-: First thing I was getting at... vmware-config.pl handles that
[05:25] <ubuntu_> Pygi, Hendikins greenpenguin13 gnomefreak   why ? A friend tell to me I only need put a file and do a "ls" to the dir of mozilla plugin and java will work
[05:26] <Hendikins> ubuntu_: Not on a livecd. You can't write files to it.
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  did u read it?
[05:26] <Toma-> you'll need to use export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling i do believe.
[05:26] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes, now I did :-)
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> Toma-:  I already done that
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_, you cant install anything from live-cd except mozilla and OOo for windows
[05:26] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, what version of VMware are you running?
[05:26] <Hendikins> Toma-: Apparently he doesn't have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include
[05:26] <ubuntu_> Hendikins,  no, I wanna do this "on the fly" only on the ram. download the file to ram, and link with ls
[05:27] <Hendikins> and he's using 5.5
[05:27] <greenpenguin13> link cc to gcc in /usr/bin - saves time next time :)
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> I folloed this howto:  -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  Is the 5.5 I believe
[05:27] <ubuntu_> Hellsashes, not really on the CD
[05:27] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, I can say how I / we at VMware are doing it, and getting it to work...
[05:28] <phreak97> anyone here help with this error?
[05:28] <phreak97> Error: Operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles new:/media/s/Bittorrent/Torrents/Lost.S02E04.HR.HDTV.AC3.5.1.XviD-CTU.avi)
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> but why is the error roth ?
[05:28] <phreak97> in azureas
[05:28] <phreak97> azureus*
[05:28] <Toma-> phreak97: it means the FBI are tracing you
[05:28] <gnomefreak> lol Toma-
[05:28] <Toma-> :D~
[05:28] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, first we get the correct headers,then get gcc-3.X (depending on what kernel you have), link /usr/bin/gcc-3.X to /usr/bin/gcc and thats it
[05:28] <gnomefreak> sorry phreak97 i wouldnt be caught dead using that app
[05:28] <damnhil> I am problems installing skype on Hoary. I had libqt3c102-mt incorrect
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahah good one Toma-
[05:28] <phreak97> Toma-,  i think its much more likely theres something wrong with azureus
[05:28] <Toma-> phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> !skype
[05:29] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  I already done that
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u how did I install vmware
[05:29] <phreak97> gnomefreak, what do you recommend?
[05:29] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, but you shouldnt need to compile anything with ubuntu and ws 5.5, since it comes with precompiled working modules...
[05:29] <Hendikins> roth: What about errata kernels?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> something that doesnt use java to run :))
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  this is the howto That I folloed: -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[05:29] <phreak97> gnomefreak, i just want something similar to bitcomet
[05:30] <roth> Hendikins, which is ?
[05:30] <butcherbird> phreak97: can u run with 'sudo azureus &' as a workaround?
[05:30] <Toma-> phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> that howto said get the essential-> apt-get install build-essential
[05:30] <phreak97> its fat32
[05:30] <greenpenguin13> gottit :)
[05:30] <gnomefreak> phreak97, i use the default one when in need of one but i dont use bittorrents alot
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> Make sure you have your kernel headers installed:
[05:30] <phreak97> owned by me
[05:30] <phreak97> ok
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> doind a uname -r
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> then apt-get install linux-headers-'kernel version'
[05:30] <phreak97> butcherbird, lemme see
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> If you are getting the gcc version error, you will need to install the version that compiled your kernel:
[05:31] <gnomefreak> build-essential is needed if you gonna do any writing or compiling of programs
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> # cat /proc/version
[05:31] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, I would use the vmware supported vmware-config script. nothing else...
[05:31] <gnomefreak> hence the word essential :))
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> so how can I do that roth ?
[05:31] <phreak97> butcherbird, same error
[05:31] <Jnx> gnomefreak, at least. I have this folder I can't copy from. I copyed some music with my root user from HDA1 to /media/music and when I'm on my regular user I can't use them. Something about rights. How do I fix that?
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  did u check the howto?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> well or you can grab each program one by one and hope you dont forget any :))
[05:32] <Toma-> phreak97: try recieving onto an ext3 filesystem. see if it fixes it
[05:32] <phreak97> the program runs, but it gives that error in the status column of any torrent i give it
[05:32] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes, there are some bad stuff in the end
[05:32] <phreak97> Toma-,  i dont have one
[05:32] <phreak97> my fs is reiser
[05:32] <roth> one shouldnt use any other stuff than what we provide
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Jnx, if you did anything as root you need to have root access to open it
[05:32] <Toma-> ...youre running ubuntu on fat32?
[05:32] <phreak97> and i already tried that
[05:32] <roth> not download scripts from other servers...
[05:32] <Toma-> oic
[05:32] <phreak97> im running it on reiser
[05:32] <Toma-> ok
[05:32] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks roth  so do I have to do everytrhing again?
[05:32] <roth> just tar zxvf VMware-workstation-5.5-18463 (or what it now was)
[05:32] <rohan> hi all
[05:32] <Jnx> gnomefreak, so what I have to do is to just start using my root account as my standard account? :P
[05:32] <rohan> where do i get qt4 4.1 packages for ubuntu from ?
[05:32] <roth> then cd vmware-distrib
[05:33] <gnomefreak> my advice is to not do anything as root unless you have to
[05:33] <roth> link  gcc
[05:33] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  now how can I remove the one I already have?
[05:33] <thrice`> rohan, lol for what?
[05:33] <phreak97> Toma-,  how do i reinstall azureus?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jnx about root
[05:33] <rohan> thrice`: to learn qt4
[05:33] <roth> then run the installer and let it invoke vmware-config.pl
[05:33] <butcherbird> phreak97: sorry boss is yelling at me gota go
[05:33] <phreak97> lol ttyl
[05:33] <Toma-> phreak97: do you really ned to re-install? or do you just want a fresh config?
[05:33] <phreak97> Toma-, ?
[05:33] <phreak97> i honestly dont know Toma-
[05:34] <phreak97> what do you reckon?
[05:34] <phreak97> probably a fresh instal
[05:34] <phreak97> and config
[05:34] <phreak97> wait
[05:34] <phreak97> try fresh config first
[05:34] <Toma-> phreak97: ok, well, try rename ~/.azureus to something else and run azureus again
[05:34] <phreak97> how do i do that?
[05:34] <phreak97> ok
[05:34] <Toma-> rename/move/delete
[05:34] <LFA> hi
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on roth dont go I have to restart my machine is making wired noises
[05:35] <Hendikins> roth: Aren't users fun?
[05:35] <Toma-> o gosh. a hamburger ad was just on tv :( im so hungry
[05:35] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, remove the vmware-distrib folder. do 1-5 on the howto.  then just do ./vmware-install.pl or whatever it is called and let it fork off the vmware-config.pl. you-re set. no need for compilation of ws5.5 on ubunto. the usual kernel modules are supported
[05:35] <rohan> !qt4
[05:35] <ubotu> No idea, rohan
[05:35] <rohan> :P
[05:35] <roth> Hendikins, always :)
[05:36] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Because Windows has never done the right thing as far as root access goes, and many users come from Windows?
[05:36] <Gecko> Hey there. I have a somewhat slow laptop, it's 600mhz and only 192 mb ram. I have been running gnome, but it's too slow for me. Your documentation states that running xfce is a credible solution for older hardware, which I of course agree. However I cannot really get used to xfce. I find it impersonal, and reminds me too much of CDE. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[05:36] <Toma-> Gecko: fluxbox?
[05:36] <rohan> fluxbox is worse than xfce for you, Gecko
[05:36] <Hendikins> roth: I deal with Firefox users. One could argue that they're more fun ;-)
[05:36] <rohan> try kde, but i am not really expecting it to be any faster, Gecko
[05:36] <Gecko> rohan, well, at least it doens't remind me of cde ;)
[05:37] <roth> Hendikins, hehe, guess there are more FF users than VMware
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: tho' as kde uses preloading, apps will open faster.
[05:37] <phreak97> Toma-,  same deal
[05:37] <roth> Hendikins, and I have only worked at vmware for 6 months...
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: cos even i use kde on my piii 550mhz XD
[05:37] <Gecko> rohan, that's an excelent suggestion
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: i hope you are not being sarcastic :|
[05:37] <Toma-> phreak97: could be a dodgy torrent?
[05:37] <Hendikins> roth: More users, more platforms, more interactions with third party code... yeah, lots of fun. I'm doing this stuff on a voluntary basis too :/
[05:37] <Gecko> rohan, I am not :)
[05:37] <cvt|gnuyear> is it possible that xine is using 200mB of ram?
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: heh, ok. then go ahead, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop !!!
[05:38] <rohan> install kde 3.5 tho' its better
[05:38] <Gecko> rohan, I wasn't aware of the preloading, so it might just work
[05:38] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: yep
[05:38] <Gecko> rohan, will I get the choice?
[05:38] <Flummi> hello, ive got a question related to ubuntu 5.10: how do i background the starting of the network-interfaces (wlan if eth0 is not plugged in)?
[05:38] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: it might not be using it, but it might be caching it
[05:38] <rohan> Gecko: no. wait a mo'
[05:38] <roth> Hendikins, hehe... I dont :-) A friend on another network and channel just thought I could help out...
[05:38] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, isn't that a lot?
[05:38] <phreak97> Toma-,  im using two different ones
[05:38] <rohan> Gecko: see this, to get kde 3.5
[05:38] <rohan> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: its cache. who cares :)
[05:39] <Hendikins> roth: I'm sort of lurking for the same reason, but for Firefox/Mozilla.
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> Ohh nooo God the aliens came for meee
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> xDD
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  r u still here? xD
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: is it p[laying a big movie?
[05:39] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i don't know exactly what that means in this case
[05:39] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes
[05:39] <Toma-> phreak97: well im not sure then.
[05:39] <Hendikins> roth: I'm pretty high up in upstream's support tree, which is a blessing/curse :P
[05:39] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, 180mB file
[05:39] <roth> Hendikins, sweet :-)
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me try to run the vmware-config.pl from the vmware folder
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: is it avi?
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, good idea :-)
[05:40] <rohan> Gecko: basically, just, "echo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, hmm, not from the vmware folder
[05:40] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, wmv
[05:40] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:40] <Gecko> But tell me one thing: Am I getting old? Because I keep using the phrase "now, back when I started using linux..."
[05:40] <Inf3ctedFx> from where.. the vmware-distro folder right?
[05:40] <Hendikins> Gecko: That's like me, except "now, back when I started using mozilla..."
[05:40] <__Dwayne> Gecko that's funny
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, it is suppused to have been installed in the /usr/bin folder
[05:40] <phreak97> Toma-,  how do i reinstall?
[05:41] <KarlosII> there was a how to for nx and ubuntu anyone know where to find th link?
[05:41] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: ok. consider this, with that 200mb of cache/buffer, itll be reading that file, decoding the audio and video into a raw stream, then throwing it at you. it'll need a bit of space
[05:41] <Gecko> __Dwayne, actually, I found out I could write a whole book just with anecdotes...
[05:41] <Kyral> KarlosII: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:41] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, go to the folder you unpacked. there is a vmware-install.pl scritp. run it
[05:41] <Toma-> phreak97: did u install via .deb?
[05:42] <roth> Inf3ctedFx,  ask me if you dont understand any of the questions. let it fork the vmware-config.pl command WHEN it is done (it will ask)
[05:42] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the one i'm runing right now roth
[05:42] <roth> sweet
[05:42] <__Dwayne> gecko: and did you? are you? will you? LOL
[05:42] <Gecko> Hendikins, Is that like "When I started using linux, we only had netscape 3"?
[05:42] <Gecko> __Dwayne, perhaps on a blog some time :)
[05:42] <phreak97> Toma-,  i did
[05:42] <Hendikins> Gecko: Almost. I started using Mozilla in 1999. 'nuff said.
[05:43] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: linux basically takes all youre ram and make good use of it, making buffers and caches. ive got nothing up atm except xchat and gnome, and its using 495mb of ram for instance
[05:43] <__Dwayne> gecko might be interesting
[05:43] <Gecko> Hendikins, really? Either I didn't know it existed at that time, or I have miscalculated the time I started using linux
[05:43] <gnomefreak> toma how do you check that?
[05:43] <Toma-> phreak97: well use synaptic to purge it/completely remove it and then reinstall it. also make sure it gets rid of the ~/.azureus folder too
[05:43] <Toma-> gnomefreak: run "free"
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[05:44] <xester> good day
[05:44] <Hendikins> Gecko: Well, Netscape was open sourced in 1998, and Mozilla was at Milestone 8.5 when I started using it. So I predate just about every major bit of code in that project :P
[05:44] <gnomefreak> :)) 495780
[05:44] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:44] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> look this roth  is done:   The configuration of VMware Workstation 5.5.1 build-19175 for Linux for this
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> running kernel completed successfully.
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> You can now run VMware Workstation by invoking the following command:
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> "/usr/bin/vmware".
[05:45] <Gecko> Hendikins, ah, milestone, I almost forgot that word. But yes, I was on that ride aswell
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Sorry guys for the flood
[05:45] <Hendikins> Gecko: I suppose it would be equivalent to starting using Linux in '94 or '95
[05:45] <claudiu> Inf3ctedFx: maybe you could use qemu instead of vmware ?
[05:45] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, ok, then youre done...
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> I was trying claudiu  but I cant find one for windows
[05:45] <Toma-> or vmware player
[05:45] <Gecko> Hendikins, well, I didn't exactly start that early...
[05:45] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> lets see roth , lets see
[05:46] <Hendikins> Gecko: heh
[05:46] <Toma-> nehoo, bedtime. cyas
[05:46] <Hendikins> Toodles
[05:46] <claudiu> Inf3ctedFx: you mean you want to use same virtual machine on windwos and linux as well ?
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> well it looks to me is working xDD
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, good :-)
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> yes claudiu  I want to run Windows XP under linux
[05:46] <gnomefreak> fizzle, it might but im thinking no when you boot up to it you should have a help part it should tell you there
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  man thx a lot
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, then I wont file a bug :-)
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, no problme
[05:47] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh is asking me to add the boot disk lol I forgot it
[05:47] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, can you update that minihowto ?
[05:47] <kino-tak> just  a quick question: how to I make a user sudoer?
[05:47] <Inf3ctedFx> do I have to install the windows CD?
[05:47] <Hendikins> Gecko: I've managed one thing that few others have though. Open about:plugins in Mozilla [Firefox] . I've got a link to my site hard-coded in to it (-:
[05:47] <rohan> kino-tak: add your user to the admin group using the user manager.
[05:47] <Gecko> Hendikins, does that make you proud? ;)
[05:48] <mwe> I found running windows 2000 as guest OS in vmware was much faster than running windows xp as guest.
[05:48] <Inf3ctedFx> not really roth  I dont know how
[05:48] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, just put in "if installing vmware 5.5 or later, just run the vmware-install.pl script. Ubuntu, both 32 and 64bit, is nowdays supported by VMware Inc."
[05:48] <fizzle> !cedega
[05:48] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:48] <Hendikins> Gecko: A little. I had to work my arse off to get that.
[05:48] <roth> Anyone else know how to make people change/update their howtos?
[05:48] <Gecko> Hendikins, unless your site is mozilla.org I fail to see where it is
[05:49] <Inf3ctedFx> but anyway roth  I'm going to make a small howto xD
[05:49] <roth> mwe, in with host OS ?
[05:49] <roth> mwe, on linux ?
[05:49] <Hendikins> Gecko: Unless your build has a modified about:plugins, you should see "Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org."
[05:49] <Atreliz> hi this is the firts time y use xchat,anyone can say me how to connect to mandriva chanel?
[05:49] <laIaidoka> roth: write the update yourself, submit as patch, and if on accepted ask if you can be the maintainer instead?
[05:49] <Gecko> yes
[05:49] <Gecko> Hendikins, is that your site?
[05:49] <Hendikins> Yes.
[05:49] <laIaidoka> s/on/not
[05:49] <Gecko> nice :)
[05:49] <roth> laIaidoka, hehe, no thanks :-) (maitainer part)
[05:50] <roth> I can set one at work as maintainer instead :-) (the support department hehe)
[05:50] <mwe> roth: yeah linux host
[05:51] <roth> mwe, mm, that can be true for 2000, since vmware does its own memory management with help of linux in the background. Ms memory mgmt wasnt very good before.
[05:51] <Gecko> Hendikins, what the heck is The Lurking Wolfox?
[05:51] <Hendikins> Gecko: Unrelated, but I use that as a universal contact details page.
[05:51] <phreak97> anyone know an alternative to azureas?
[05:52] <deltron> the bittorrent CLI lol
[05:52] <phreak97> i want something that displays stuff like azureas does
[05:52] <phreak97> i used bitcomet in windows
[05:52] <Gecko> Hendikins, I see
[05:52] <mwe> roth: I don't know exactly why. xp demands more memory and I read somewhere that xp in general doesn't run optimal on virtual michines
[05:52] <phreak97> wish there was a linux version of that
[05:52] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, Im out of here now, mail me at d00roth(the damn sign)dtek.chalmers.se if you have problems
[05:52] <milagro> hi can anyone help me setup a serial mouse in ubuntu? (please,. its a nightmare to use it as keyb only :D  )
[05:53] <Gecko> mwe, have you ever seen anything running optimal on a virtual machine? ;)
[05:53] <eXhumed> hi. I'm using a Ubuntu install for a long time now, but i needed to install Windows on another partition. my problem is, after installing Windows, it messed up the partition table, and I don't see grub anymore. i'm already running a live cd, but how can i fix grub now ? thanks in advance
[05:53] <roth> mwe, might be so. I know a few vmware/XP bugs :-)
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  once again thx a lot
[05:53] <deltron> lol, I can run my VM decently
[05:53] <mwe> Gecko: I meant compared to other guests
[05:53] <Gecko> mwe, I know :)
[05:53] <gpled> how can i tell what version of ubuntu i am running?
[05:53] <milagro> eXhumed, use your installation cd and reinstall grub
[05:53] <Nooobie> hi, how do i allow root login in ubuntu?
[05:54] <mwe> gpled: cat /etc/issue
[05:54] <deltron> gpled: uname -a ?
[05:54] <eXhumed> milagro, actually i don't have a Ubuntu Live CD, i'm running Whax. so I guess i have to do it manually
[05:54] <Stew_Lappy> Nooobie can't you just use sudo?
[05:54] <Gecko> deltron, that's kernel version...
[05:54] <Hendikins> I remember NT4 claiming some really weird CPU speeds under older versions of workstation on an SMP box
[05:54] <Hendikins> Things like 4GHz on a dual PIII 650 host
[05:55] <Nooobie> Stew_Lappy: no... i'm using it as a server and i need to copy files etc... and i don't wanna work in a shell...
[05:55] <phreak97> i havea python source, how do i compile it?
[05:55] <deltron> oh
[05:55] <pashaw> !tell Nooobie about root
[05:55] <mwe> Hendikins: rofl. yeah that sounds odd
[05:55] <deltron> lol
[05:55] <Hendikins> Only ever had that problem with SMP hosts though.
[05:55] <deltron> on my old dual celeron, NT4 reported them as xeon's :D
[05:55] <Nooobie> pashaw: i already set a root passwd i just can't login with it.
[05:55] <deltron> !cedega
[05:55] <ubotu> somebody said cedega was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:56] <Hendikins> Don't worry, these days I'm apparently running Athlon MP CPUs on a 440BX chipset
[05:56] <gpled> mwe: wins :)
[05:56] <pashaw> Nooobie,   your not trying to use X with root are you?
[05:56] <Hendikins> Now that's just plain wrong ;-)
[05:56] <Nooobie> pashaw: that's exactly what i wanna do.
[05:56] <mwe> I can't get the vmware tools time sync to host to work no matter what I do though
[05:56] <Gecko> deltron, wow, that's like writing mercedes on an old skoda
[05:56] <deltron> lol, I loved that system though
[05:56] <pashaw> Nooobie,  it causes too many problems
[05:57] <deltron> mmm
[05:57] <Nooobie> pashaw: meaning?.. i should be careful / it's impossiable?
[05:57] <gpled> seems like all the distros have their own way of showing /etc/issue.  to bad their is not a standard name for that file.
[05:57] <Hendikins> These dualcore chips are going to take all the bragging rights out of SMP :(
[05:57] <deltron> hehe, my laptop is an amd64 :)
[05:57] <Gecko> both are laptops actually
[05:58] <pashaw> Nooobie,   its not recommended    use google if your set on doijng it
[05:58] <deltron> Hendikins: dual dualcore's then :)
[05:58] <Hendikins> I just can't stand trying to do Real Work [TM]  on a uniproc machine
[05:58] <Gecko> well, i had nothing but trouble getting linux on it, so I let windows on it, and use it for gaming and watching dvd's
[05:58] <deltron> most of what I do doesn't require much horsepower
[05:58] <ubuntu_> where is the dir xchat use to save downloads on udentu :
[05:59] <ubuntu_> what is
[05:59] <deltron> I wish games were written for SMP and 64 bit lol
[05:59] <KarlosII> dumb question but my mind is mush atm what is the ip for localhost?
[05:59] <deltron> KarlosII: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <Hendikins> None of what I do (aside from the bazillion Mozilla builds and the odd KDE) requires 2x2GHz
[05:59] <deltron> SMP does make your system a whole lot more responsive though, I definitely agree with that
[05:59] <gpled> is their a repository that will let me upgrade firefox?
[06:00] <Hendikins> Although being able to run vmware and pearpc at the same time is cute.
[06:00] <Gecko> yeah, well, I wouldn't dare doing any developing that needs to be compilet on this little guy here...
[06:00] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   ~/.xchats/downloads/
[06:00] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   oops typo  its xchat2
[06:00] <Gecko> s/compilet/compiled
[06:01] <Hendikins> deltron: There's just no comparison. That, and at the time I got this kit, I paid less for my motherboard, 2 CPUs and 1GB Registered RAM than the top bare Intel CPU would have cost at the time.
[06:01] <ubuntu_> pashaw, :( have no downloads dir dir
[06:01] <ubuntu_> ignore.conf       notify.conf     sound.conf
[06:01] <ubuntu_> keybindings.conf  servlist_.conf  xchat.conf
[06:01] <deltron> amd for the win
[06:02] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   type  cd ~/.xchat2    then type  ls
[06:02] <Gecko> I bought this little laptop because I was sure it could run linux and because it is really slick. I'll just have to wait till the day my other laptop gets so outdated that linux will run on it :)
[06:02] <Hendikins> and as for AMD CPUs being hot? These run just fine in an essentially unventilated garage with an outside air temp of 45C. 'nuff said.
[06:02] <deltron> what laptop?
[06:02] <Gecko> deltron, asus a4k
[06:02] <Inf3ctedFx> danm roth left right??
[06:02] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   have to downloaded anything with xchat yet?
[06:02] <deltron> I have ubuntu64 on my gateway mx7515
[06:02] <KarlosII> thnx deltron btw
[06:02] <deltron> KarlosII: np
[06:02] <Gecko> deltron, or which of them were you refering to? The working or the not working?
[06:03] <ubuntu_> pashaw, iam in .xchat dir, those file is from .xchat dir . yes i do a dowload
[06:03] <Hendikins> I'm still sitting on SuSE, although if I can ever get a non-dialup connection I'll certainly put Ubuntu (amongst other things) through its paces.
[06:03] <Nooobie> can someone help me configure an isa soundcard (vibra) ?
[06:03] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  look I run vmware pretty good but now I'm trying to install windows and I have a message said: you do not have VMware Tools installed"   do u know anything about it?
[06:03] <Gecko> deltron, the errors I got was on the lines of really decreased performance, and artifacts whenever something was moving fast enough on the screen :)
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, ever considered "Ship-it"?
[06:04] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Yeah, that's normal. Just finish installing Windows, then install VMware tools.
[06:04] <Hendikins> Gecko: I'm in Australia, and that doesn't help with getting packages off the net.
[06:04] <deltron> sounds like no fun.  I never really tried 3d on my laptop though
[06:04] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   thats where it should be
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> mm oks
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, well, I'm in China, at least for another week
[06:04] <__Dwayne> Gecko: china, ouch..
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, and they gladly sent it to me
[06:04] <Hendikins> and being a KDE user, I'd probably lean towards kubuntu
[06:05] <dueyfinster> Hey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless)
[06:05] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   unless you changed it in xchat prefs
[06:05] <ubuntu_> pashaw, is on my desktop, ubuntu by default save on desktop $
[06:05] <Kindred> Hendikins: i'm in australia on 56k and I downloaded ubuntu :|
[06:05] <deltron> Hendikins: shipit dude!  it's 100% free and will get it
[06:05] <ubuntu_> :$
[06:05] <Hendikins> Kindred: You poor thing.
[06:05] <__Dwayne> kindrid: ouch..
[06:05] <Hendikins> deltron: That doesn't help if/when I want to get packages off the web.
[06:05] <__Dwayne> shipit doesn't charge? wow..that's way cool.
[06:05] <Kindred> it's only 3 days or so :P
[06:05] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   web downloads go there by default not xchat
[06:05] <Gecko> __Dwayne, it's nice here, if you don't consider the utter lack of bandwidth to the rest of the world
[06:05] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:05] <__Dwayne> Gecko what part of China?
[06:05] <deltron> Hendikins: well, what are you doing now to keep your suse updated? :P
[06:06] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:06] <Gecko> __Dwayne, beijing
[06:06] <albinoloverats> anyone know how to solve problems with a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2nx?
[06:06] <Hendikins> deltron: Getting the occasional small patch. I'm not downloading, say, 50 meg in a hit.
[06:06] <dueyfinster>  Hey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless). I need the path to ra0, but I have no clue what it is!
[06:06] <Hendikins> Kindred: so, why are you stuck on dial-up?
[06:07] <Hendikins> or were.
[06:07] <RedRose> ???
[06:07] <deltron> Hendikins: you can use apt to install from the source files if you want
[06:07] <deltron> Hendikins: a lot smaller downloads
[06:07] <Hendikins> deltron: I would still have to acquire the files though.
[06:07] <RedRose> is there anyway?
[06:07] <deltron> apt-get works nice, and resumes :P
[06:07] <dueyfinster> Anyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> pashaw,  well my ubentu save it on Desktop :) Tks :)
[06:08] <Hendikins> Basically, it stays on the todo list until I get some bandwidth
[06:08] <ubuntu_> ubunt
[06:08] <deltron> RedRose: none really
[06:08] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:08] <deltron> lol
[06:08] <flogiston> Does anyone got problems with Firefox?
[06:08] <deltron> RedRose: there could be directory permissions that don't allow you to read it in addition to the index.html file
[06:08] <ubuntu_> flogiston, what kind of problem ?
[06:08] <Hendikins> flogiston: I don't have problems with Firefox, but I run #firefox. Best thing to do is ask your question.
[06:09] <dueyfinster> flogiston: I get some after installing extensions, chrome registration failure
[06:09] <flogiston> It doesn't open de sites i write in the adressfield.
[06:09] <RedRose> deltron:no, i can see the index.html, and i know the fir is readable and executable by everyone...
[06:09] <RedRose> but i don't want to automattically see the index.html page, but a directory list
[06:09] <Hendikins> flogiston: What does it do? Also, are you using an official or Ubuntu-supplied version of Mozilla Firefox?
[06:09] <deltron> what browser?
[06:09] <RedRose> deltron:any?
[06:09] <dueyfinster> flogiston: try Opera or konqueror
[06:09] <flogiston> If i try to open www.google.com it opens altavista or somthing else.
[06:10] <Hendikins> RedRose: set a default document of something that doesn't exist?
[06:10] <ubuntu_> flogiston, do you configure network :
[06:10] <flogiston> Im using the ubuntu supplied.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> flogiston, do you configure network ?
[06:10] <Hendikins> RedRose: Then it should find no default document, and give you a directory listing.
[06:10] <dueyfinster> Anyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?
[06:10] <flogiston> ubuntu_:how them?
[06:10] <flogiston> *then
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> RedRose : add something like "foo.html"
[06:11] <Hendikins> flogiston: so what does it do when you try going to sites?
[06:11] <ubuntu_> flogiston,  my english is poor .. do wanna know how configure networks :
[06:11] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:11] <flogiston> I have myu network configured .
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> RedRose : to the DirectoryIndex directive in your apache configuration...sorry about enter punctuation. ;-)
[06:11] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: Are you trying to set that up using vmware-config.pl?
[06:12] <dueyfinster> Hendikins, No should I? I am using the gui to map an ethernet connect through.
[06:12] <albinoloverats> anybody know how to configure a usb soundblaster?
[06:12] <flogiston> Sometimes no site even gets displayed.
[06:13] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: IIRC you have to configure what interfaces get bridged and whatnot using vmware-config.pl
[06:13] <Hendikins> Then you just pick the appropriate virtual ethernet device in VM options
[06:13] <dueyfinster> Hendikins; Is that difficult?
[06:13] <Stormx2> Woh the GNU people feel really left out.
[06:13] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I haven't had to do it in a while, but I don't remember it being hard.
[06:14] <flogiston> when i type: about:config ff displays w.w norton and company.
[06:14] <kids> hi
[06:14] <kids> hola
[06:14] <Hendikins> flogiston: Does the browser display any error messages when you try to load pages?
[06:14] <Hendikins> kids: Good morning.
[06:14] <kids> no abla espanol
[06:14] <flogiston> I'm not running it from terminal but i'll do that now.
[06:15] <Hendikins> flogiston: I wasn't actually thinking about it dumping anything to stderr/stdout in this case.
[06:15] <Hendikins> (but that's always worth a look)
[06:15] <flogiston> Where to look?
[06:16] <Hendikins> Does Firefox just sit there, or does it [eventually]  give an error page?
[06:16] <flogiston> No error page.
[06:17] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I do not respond to private messages. Please ask your questions in the channel.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ill bb im gonna boot into breezy
[06:17] <Hendikins> flogiston: Other browsers work?
[06:17] <flogiston> Tried links and lynx and they work.
[06:17] <deltron> elinks ftw
[06:17] <Hendikins> No proxy settings or such like configured? No extensions?
[06:18] <dotrig> Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)    Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll,/usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[06:18] <dueyfinster> Hendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted.
[06:18] <dotrig> Grrr mplayer
[06:18] <flogiston> No extensions.
[06:18] <flogiston> I haven't tuoched proxysetting.
[06:18] <Hendikins> So I take it removing ~/.mozilla/firefox doesn't help.
[06:18] <Hendikins> (or moving it out of the way, as the case may be)
[06:18] <flogiston> Haven't tried.
[06:19] <flogiston> I speed tweaked ff earlier today.
[06:19] <Hendikins> Bingo!
[06:19] <flogiston> Where can i find about:config?
[06:19] <Hendikins> Be very very wary of these so-called speed tweaks. Enabling experimental stuff can be problematic
[06:19] <dueyfinster> type into address bar
[06:19] <Hendikins> You can load about:config in the same you would a webpage.
[06:20] <theconartist> dueyfinster, he means the filename
[06:20] <theconartist> dueyfinster, he cant open ff
[06:20] <dueyfinster> ah, sorry
[06:20] <Hendikins> If you can't run Firefox, get ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way.
[06:20] <Hendikins> and/or edit prefs.js/user.js in the profile directly.
[06:20] <flogiston> But i can't open about:config in ff.
[06:20] <theconartist> somebody is slow
[06:21] <flogiston> rm -rf  ~/.mozilla/firefox ?
[06:21] <Hendikins> I wouldn't rm -rf
[06:21] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: ping
[06:21] <dueyfinster> Hendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted. Any ideas how to kill process? I looked in Gnome System Monitor, I cannot see the process
[06:21] <Hendikins> I'd move it out of the way. You might want to keep your bookmarks and stuff.
[06:21] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I'm not /that/ familiar with vmware troubleshooting. We had a vmware employee floating around here earlier, wonder where they got off to...
[06:22] <flogiston> oops already did.
[06:22] <flogiston> Restarded FF and now it works.
[06:22] <Hendikins> Of course it works.  And you may have wanted to keep your bookmarks, cookies, saved passwords, etc.
[06:23] <theconartist> flogiston, incase you wanted to keep some settings
[06:23] <MacXimain> anyone here able to help me with installing a .DEB file
[06:23] <Gecko> pundai, ricoh based, laptop cardreader?
[06:23] <MacXimain> i tried clicking on it and it tells me that ar is not in my PATH
[06:23] <flogiston> Don't use bookmarkes and the passwords are no problem.
[06:23] <flogiston> Thanks anyway!
[06:24] <pundai> Gecko, its a laptop
[06:24] <pundai> i dont know what ricoh means
[06:24] <MacXimain> anyone tried Dapper yet
[06:24] <Gecko> pundai, ricoh is the producer
[06:24] <Hendikins> flogiston: Next time, ask us before doing any speed tweaking, and don't play with anything if you're not 100% sure what it does.
[06:24] <Gecko> pundai, and if it's the one I think it is, you won't get it working
[06:25] <pundai> Gecko, how can i tell
[06:25] <flogiston> I'll do so.
[06:25] <Gecko> pundai, try with lspci
[06:25] <topyli> MacXimain: i sure hope so, since somebody is supposed to be working on it ;-)
[06:25] <dabaR__> MacXimain: no, noone.
[06:25] <MacXimain> how about someone giving me a hand :)
[06:25] <Hendikins> MacXimain: I'm a Firefox expert, ntoa dapper expert :)
[06:25] <ZiX> hi, what do you people find the best WM? i do not wish to start a holy war so don't say "KDE IS BEST!" "no gnome is best!" "NO KDE!" :p
[06:25] <Gecko> Hendikins, that kde 3.5 mirror is giving me some trouble :(
[06:25] <MacXimain> well im downloading right now..... i guess i'll just have to see
[06:26] <Hendikins> Gecko: I compiled my own KDE 3.5 on my 32bit SuSE 9.3 box.
[06:26] <pundai> Gecko, 0000:03:01.2 0805: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0822 (rev 17)
[06:26] <pashaw> ZiX,    there is no best  only your favorite
[06:26] <Gecko> pundai, well, there you go. There are no drivers for that one
[06:26] <butcherbird> ZiX: been enjoying xfce
[06:26] <ScatterBrain> If I create a custom package, using the source and dpkg-buildpackage, how can I prevent an "apt-get [dist-] upgrade" from trashing my version in favor of the respositories version?
[06:26] <pundai> Gecko, \o/
[06:26] <flogiston> An other thing. The key with "pipe" stoped work. Tried my keyboard on an other computer so the button isn't broken.
[06:26] <ZiX> pashaw, true.. but i want some desktop setups to see which is best for me
[06:26] <topyli> MacXimain: this is a bad channel for dapper support. so is every other channell. if you know how to fix broken systems, please do install, debug, and fix
[06:26] <dabaR__> ZiX: one that works for you.
[06:26] <ColonelPanique> ZiX : neither Gnome, nor KDE are Window Managers.  They are Desktop Environments.  fvwm, Fluxbox, and Windowmaker are Window Managers.
[06:27] <ZiX> ColonelPanique, i know.
[06:27] <MacXimain> so anyone know why i can't install a DEB file on Breezy by clicking on it
[06:27] <Gecko> pundai, something about the patent for the sd card type being so closed and everything
[06:27] <pashaw> ZiX,   then try all 3 main ones   kubuntu-desktop   ubuntu-desktop  xubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <ZiX> xubuntu? oO
[06:27] <deltron> xfce4 > * :D
[06:27] <Kyral> MacXimain: because that isn't there yet?
[06:27] <Gecko> pundai, however I have managed to find some card readers that specificly tell you that they are linux based, so that's what I did
[06:27] <MacXimain> this is in Breezy Im talking about. It's worked in the past.
[06:27] <pashaw> ZiX,   thats what butcherbird and myself are using right now
[06:27] <Kyral> MacXimain: That functionaility is being addressed in Dapper with gdebi
[06:28] <topyli> MacXimain: you're not supposed to be able to do that. it's an upcoming feature for dapper. try wajig
[06:28] <MacXimain> hmmm pehaps i had a plugin... don't remember
[06:28] <Kyral> MacXimain: did you have a script for it? Its never been that way for me (then again I've never liked doing it that way)
[06:28] <ZiX> whats xubuntu-desktop?
[06:28] <ZiX> oO
[06:28] <Pygi> !xubuntu
[06:28] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop.  Please be patient.
[06:28] <Kyral> Gah Ubotu
[06:28] <deltron> ooh
[06:28] <deltron> i gotta grab xubuntu :D
[06:28] <Kyral> I saw the package accepted on the ML
[06:28] <MacXimain> come to think of it I think i DID have a pluing or something installed i found on KDELook
[06:28] <Pygi> deltron: hehe :)
[06:28] <Kyral> !info gdebi dappe
[06:28] <Kyral> !info gdebi dapper
[06:28] <Gecko> pundai, I know
[06:29] <ubotu> gdebi: (Simple tool to install deb files), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[06:29] <ZiX> and err.. in XFCE i miss the function to add as many panels as you want.. how to do that?
[06:29] <Kyral> there you go
[06:29] <deltron> ZiX: you mean like in gnome?
[06:29] <Kyral> Actually....
[06:29] <Kyral> I should try it
[06:29] <ZiX> Deltron: yup
[06:29] <deltron> it's in one of the xfce plugins I believe
[06:29] <cvt|gnuyear> barrage was fun
[06:29] <JayLv99> I'm looking to get some more RAM for my Laptop (Inspiron 1000, currently has the standard 256 mb RAM), but on the Dell website it said "Get the official Dell 256 meg RAM stick to MAX OUT your Inspiron 1000!"
[06:29] <ZiX> deltron, which one?
[06:29] <Pygi> Bye bye :P
[06:29] <deltron> fire up synaptic and add in the xfce plugins
[06:29] <deltron> not sure
[06:29] <JayLv99> does that mean my Laptop can only go up to 512 RAM total?
[06:30] <JayLv99> or is that just Dell being weird
[06:30] <JayLv99> does anybody know how many RAM slots an Inspiron 1000 has?
[06:30] <JayLv99> and how much it can handle?
[06:30] <pashaw> JayLv99,    goto crucial.com   and search for your lappy make/model
[06:30] <Kyral> Laptops have RAM Slots?
[06:30] <vbhanu> HI, I was trying to install ubuntu it failed to detect my sata hard disk
[06:30] <vbhanu> what could be the solution to this problem
[06:30] <rraphink> Kyral: they better, yes
[06:30] <JayLv99> ;x
[06:30] <Morrowyn> does anyone in here have a problem with the nvidia driver hanging on bootup of gdm on the framebuffer ? somehow when i boot windows first and then ubuntu everything is fine , any ideas?
[06:30] <JayLv99> I would hope my laptop has a RAM slot
[06:31] <Hendikins> Kyral: You've got to put the SODIMMs somewhere.
[06:31] <Kyral> Morrowyn: the Framebuffer "locks" the Nvidia Driver
[06:31] <Kyral> Morrowyn: boot with the nofb option
[06:31] <ZiX> deltron: which plugin?
[06:31] <ColonelPanique> Kyral : sure they do.  SODIMM slots. ;-)
[06:31] <MacXimain> I have Breezy 5.10 Installed right now but need to upgrade the Samba. the Version in the Repositories isn't the latest. How can I install the lates version of Samba
[06:31] <JayLv99> so... does anyone know what the Inspiron 1000's specs are RAM-wise?
[06:31] <Kyral> MacXimain: Wait?
[06:32] <dabaR__> JayLv99: did you try searching their web site for specs?
[06:32] <Kyral> MacXimain: If its in Dapper make a request for it to be backported
[06:32] <deltron> ZiX: not sure, I'm not running a gui to check :P
[06:32] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : coompile it from source?
[06:32] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : compile it even
[06:32] <Morrowyn> Kyral, how do i boot with nofb option ?
[06:32] <MacXimain> i have the Dapper Live CD and seem to be a newer version there
[06:32] <topyli> MacXimain: tha'ts a bad reason to upgrade your whole system to something unstable
[06:32] <JayLv99> dabaR__ - yes, I did, and it mentioned "maxing out your Inspiron 1000 with a 256 stick"
[06:32] <JayLv99> and I'm wondering if that means that all my laptop can handle is 512
[06:32] <cello_rasp> i need a phone number/address book for gnome/ubuntu
[06:32] <pashaw> JayLv99,   most new laptops have 2 slots
[06:32] <JayLv99> 'cause another website I read said it has 2 slots
[06:32] <Kyral> MacXimain: Latest And Greatest isn't the best. Then again I shouldn't be talking I'm on Dapper lol
[06:33] <MacXimain> compiling from source is not my friend.... I never have any luck :(
[06:33] <topyli> MacXimain: if there's no backport, build it yourself from dappersources but on breezy
[06:33] <dabaR__> JayLv99: can you open it?
[06:33] <JayLv99> is it possible for a laptop not to be able to go above a certain amount of RAM?
[06:33] <pashaw> JayLv99,    cruicial.com would have told you that also
[06:33] <MacXimain> if i can just upgrade my Samba i won't bother with Dapper
[06:33] <pashaw> JayLv99,   yes
[06:33] <JayLv99> dabaR__ - I don't have the tools handy
[06:33] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : is there a specific feature or fix found in the latest version of Samba that you must have?  if not then you really don't have to get the latest version of Samba, or anything else for that matter... ;-P
[06:33] <theconartist> JayLv99, 32bit systems are capped at 4gigs
[06:33] <Hendikins> MacXimain: ^^^^what ColonelPanique said.
[06:33] <topyli> MacXimain: what's so special that has happened to samba now?
[06:33] <markus-_-> when a file's owner is root..... how do i change permission on the file to be able to write to it?
[06:33] <Hendikins> theconartist: PAE anyone?
[06:34] <SEJeff> topyli, nothing, samba 4 isn't released yet
[06:34] <SEJeff> markus-_-, What group is the file in?
[06:34] <MacXimain> The newer version is Suppose to fix a problem with My Mac OS Hanging when it gets to the linux box... Seems to be a known issue according to the kubuntu forums
[06:34] <theconartist> Hendikins, i dont know what PAE is but i already dont like it
[06:34] <markus-_-> file group is root as well
[06:34] <Kyral> Morrowyn: when Grub loads (this is just to see if it works) hit ESC to enter the Menu (if you aren't there already). Hilight the Ubuntu entry and hit e to edit it, then move the selector to the kernel line and hit e again. Move to the end of the line and add "nofb" to it. Then hit esc and then b
[06:34] <JayLv99> pashaw - ty for the link
[06:35] <topyli> MacXimain: well, test it by building the new samba on breezy
[06:35] <JayLv99> :) that is a good site
[06:35] <topyli> MacXimain: you're going to be worse off with dapper
[06:35] <MacXimain> ...and why is that topyli
[06:35] <Hendikins> theconartist: Physical Address Extension
[06:36] <JayLv99> wait... this is kinda confusing
[06:36] <markus-_-> can you offer any ideas SEJeff ?
[06:36] <theconartist> oh
[06:36] <JayLv99> it says that I should get an upgrade of 256 more
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : the kubuntu forums are not authoritative for Samba fixes.  if such an issue exists, and has been fixed, it will be listed in the Samba changelog / release notes, which are authoritative sources of information on Samba...
[06:36] <JayLv99> to bring it up to 512
[06:36] <topyli> MacXimain: because they may break your whole operating system tomorrow. tha't why it's not released. it's in development
[06:36] <JayLv99> but it says I only have one module
[06:36] <JayLv99> memory slot*
[06:36] <Morrowyn> thanks, Kyral gonna try that after dinner :D
[06:36] <SEJeff> markus-_-, you didn't answer my question
[06:36] <SEJeff> markus-_-, what group is the file in
[06:36] <JayLv99> it says "The number of total memory slots in your Dell Inspiron 1000 Series is 1 (1 bank of 1)"
[06:36] <markus-_-> sure i did
[06:37] <JayLv99> but it claims that I could get a 256 stick upgrade to make it 512
[06:37] <markus-_->  file group is root as well
[06:37] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Sorry, I didn't see that
[06:37] <MacXimain> the latest version of Samba is 3.0.21 ... the latest in the Repositories is 3.0.14
[06:37] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Well you can create a new group... put yourself in that group and the file. Or you can add yourself to the root group
[06:37] <Hendikins> theconartist: basically they extend the address space to 36 bits, which bumps the maximum up to 64GB on 32bit systems that support PAE.
[06:37] <markus-_-> how do i add myself to the root group?
[06:37] <topyli> MacXimain: what about dapper repositories?
[06:38] <JayLv99> ohhh
[06:38] <JayLv99> it says that it has 256 MB of RAM non-removable already
[06:38] <MacXimain> i ran the live CD and the version there is 3.0.20
[06:38] <JayLv99> and it says it has 1 bank of 1 memory
[06:38] <JayLv99> is that not including the 256 nonremovable?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> is there an app that i can get osx themes?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> or mac themes
[06:38] <topyli> MacXimain: if that's enough, build from that
[06:38] <SEJeff> MacXimain, dapper version is  3.0.20b-2ubuntu1
[06:39] <MacXimain> it suppose to be enough
[06:39] <pashaw> JayLv99,   youll need to check if 256mb is integrated into the mainboard  so the 1slot is empty now
[06:39] <markus-_-> SEJeff,  how do i add myself to the root group?
[06:39] <MacXimain> so how do i build from that then??
[06:39] <butcherbird> JayLv99: companies like dell are always soldering stuff to MB on more inexpensive laptops
[06:39] <topyli> MacXimain: so, enable the dapper deb-src repositories. apt-get update; apt-get build-dep samba; apt-get -b source samba
[06:40] <Surak> Hello
[06:40] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:40] <Gecko> Seems that kubuntu-users have developed their own sense of humor:
[06:40] <Gecko> Gecko: im trying to install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu-desktop || _matt: I see - cant say that I have upgraded from ubuntu
[06:40] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : have a look at Samba changes: http://us2.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.0.21a.html  NO mention of any Mac OS X related issues going back to version 3.0.4 ;-)
[06:40] <MacXimain> i need to add the dapper repositories right?
[06:41] <topyli> MacXimain: the source repos. don't fool with the binaries
[06:41] <Surak> Is someone aware of issues with some via unichrome adapters? I tested five different machines containing this video 1106:7205 rev. 1 (the one on chipset via 8378)  and breezy cannot get a decent video mode on it.
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Well you have to add yourself to root as a secondary group
[06:42] <MacXimain> I was reading this forum and it talks about it here
[06:42] <Surak> it keeps monitors shaking. This happens in ubuntu only.
[06:42] <MacXimain> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108691&highlight=samba
[06:42] <chillywilly> !win32codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, sudo gedit /etc/group
[06:42] <mwe> SEJeff: no!
[06:42] <mwe> vigr !!!
[06:42] <mwe> sudo vigr even
[06:42] <topyli> heh
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, you can also do: sudo usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin root jeff jeff
[06:43] <SEJeff> markus-_-, root being the group. and jeff being my username
[06:43] <mwe> don't edit /etc/group or /etc/passwd directly. always use vigr and vipw instead
[06:43] <MacXimain> topyli,  so what exactly do i need to add to have the repos
[06:44] <SEJeff> mwe, I realize that, but usermod is stupid and removes all groups you are currently a member of instead of adding a group
[06:44] <SEJeff> mwe, And vi, while second nature to me, is not to a normal user
[06:44] <topyli> MacXimain: just copy your breezy deb-src lines (not the deb lines) and edit them to say dapper where they now say breezy
[06:44] <Some_Body> hm, is there a hot-key to launch terminal in breezy?
[06:45] <MacXimain> ok kinda thought so but good to make sure
[06:45] <mwe> SEJeff: vigr and vipw doesn't use vi as editor, despite the name. it uses $EDITOR, nano by default
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : that forum says nothing about requiring the latest version of Samba...you don't really need it.  you should spare yourself the grief of trying to go to bleeding edge when you don't need it.
[06:45] <Some_Body> and what is the command for running the mouse configuration program? Mouseconfig?
[06:45] <topyli> MacXimain: what is the forum thread supposed to be about? i see no information there ;-)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> alt+F2 will bring up the run box or you can use ctrl+alt+F2 to get into term only and to get back its ctrl+alt+F
[06:46] <gnomefreak> 7
[06:46] <mwe> SEJeff: editing groups and passwd by hand means leaving the system in a state where you can't login if you make a mistake.
[06:46] <Some_Body> thankds gnome
[06:46] <SEJeff> mwe, oh, the first thing I do on ubuntu is remove nano
[06:46] <SEJeff> mwe, You are right then
[06:47] <topyli> SEJeff: what's wrong with nano?
[06:48] <odat> anyone have any experience with officejet all in one's   scanning stuff
[06:48] <topyli> !anyone
[06:48] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[06:48] <Surak> odat: I own one of those
[06:49] <SEJeff> topyli, vi is much much faster than nano
[06:49] <odat> Surak, any luck getting scanning to work
[06:49] <Surak> It just works (R)
[06:49] <topyli> SEJeff: oh it is? i've never noticed. it's a better editor in many other ways of course.
[06:49] <Surak> using the hplip package
[06:50] <topyli> SEJeff: where have you last seen vi?
[06:50] <skon> SEJeff: it's barely noticeable on a _decent_ machine
[06:50] <MacXimain> topyli, May not have been the right thread..... But theres a threasd there that alks about how OS X Finder Locks up when trying to connect to the kubuntu/ubuntu machine.  Basically said that the 3.0.14 has problems and to upgrade Samba to 3.0.20 and that seems to fix the problem
[06:50] <SEJeff> skon, I am referring to something in vi as in d20d to delete 20 lines or y4y to copy 4 lines. You can't do that in nano
[06:50] <topyli> MacXimain: ok, so you better do that
[06:50] <dabaR__> are you guys really discussing this or am I misreading?
[06:50] <odat> Surak, each time i use xsane to try and scan i get a reading i/o device error
[06:50] <TokenBad> how dcc chat in xchat?
[06:51] <SEJeff> topyli, I am a Unix / Linux systems admin. They don't have nano on HP-UX or solaris (which I work on every day)
[06:51] <Surak> odat: use hplip
[06:51] <skon> SEJeff: okay, thought you were referring to processing time
[06:51] <PeteyPablo> can somone help me with an ssh problem ?
[06:51] <topyli> SEJeff: does hp-ux have the original vi?
[06:51] <ColonelPanique> vi/vim is a pretty good standard editor.  you will not be finding nano installed on the majority of other *nix systems by default too.  it's better to learn something that is universally present on almost all *nix-like systems than have to constantly be installing some little special friendly editor. ;-)
[06:51] <topyli> !start an editor war
[06:51] <ubotu> topyli: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:51] <butcherbird> PeteyPablo: what is problem?
[06:51] <Surak> odat: turn the machine on with the scanner already on. make sure the hplip service is being run
[06:51] <topyli> oh, it's removed
[06:51] <skon> TokenBad: /dialog screeName
[06:52] <MacXimain> ok here's the thread i was reading Earlier : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82039&highlight=samba+os
[06:52] <topyli> SEJeff: yeah well, defaulting to nano is a debian peculiarity
[06:52] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: http://pastebin.com/487383
[06:52] <odat> Surak, i have the hpoj libraries installed as well as the hplip libraries installed
[06:52] <hikenboot> I installed mkinitrd-cd because that was the only package i could find with mkinitrd in it...is it called somthing else or should i install some tools from somewhere?
[06:53] <Surak> odat: hpoj is no longer necessary. it should be removed.
[06:53] <odat> Surak, will i still be able to print using the hplip?
[06:53] <Surak> odat: yes
[06:54] <odat> Surak, and are these two libraries causing a conflict that doesn't allow the scanner to work right now
[06:54] <butcherbird> ah you can always just del the known hosts file under /home/pete/.ssh/
[06:54] <odat> ?
[06:54] <butcherbird> PeteyPablo: ^^
[06:54] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: ?
[06:54] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: ok thanks
[06:55] <butcherbird> :)
[06:55] <massiC> hi, did anyone played with OVAL and ovaldi interpreter?
[06:55] <sockpuppe1> albacker
[06:56] <albacker> sockpuppe1, hello !
[06:56] <sockpuppe1> mire dita shok!
[06:56] <odat> Surak, do i need the libsane-extras?
[06:57] <odat> ?
[06:58] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with sharing itunes music library over daap in rhythmbox so i can play shared music in ubuntu?
[07:01] <PeteyPablo> damn my shell had hardware failure!
[07:01] <dylan_> how do i secure my linux box?
[07:01] <skon> dylan_: against what?
[07:01] <topyli> dylan_: how have you made it insecure? ;-)
[07:02] <albacker> dylan_, linux is almost secure by default :)
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> dylan_ : power it down, and lock it in a bank vault?
[07:02] <skon> dylan_: there are books written on this. In general, shutdown telnet, ftp, apache if you don't need it, smtp if you don't need it...use ipchains, run chkrootkit, etc
[07:02] <albacker> some people use antivirueses : dylan_. try finidng one !
[07:02] <dylan_> topyli, i simply installed it...i see security guides online to secure linux but they seem hard
[07:02] <sockpuppe1> bank vaults?!?! thats it>?
[07:03] <dylan_> how do i do these things?
[07:03] <topyli> dylan_: yeah i now there are all sorts of guides
[07:03] <dylan_> topyli, they are difficult to read
[07:03] <topyli> dylan_: do you run a mail server? does it have many windows clients?
[07:03] <skon> dylan: go to System:Administration:Services and shutdown everything you don't need
[07:03] <gnomefreak> antivirus on linux is mostly unneeded
[07:03] <MacXimain> is the apt repository list still located in ETC/APT
[07:04] <skon> gnomefreak: haha this is the sad truth...
[07:04] <sampan> macximain  yes /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <dabaR__> topyli: ya, he runs a bank with his server...he just needs to secure it.
[07:04] <dylan_> topyli, no i am just a single machine
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: do you want to run database or web servers locally and hide them from the internet
[07:04] <MacXimain> thanks sampan
[07:04] <sampan> np
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: don't worry, just enjoy
[07:04] <ColonelPanique> gnomefreak : not yet anyway. ;-) the Chinese are working on it though.
[07:04] <dylan_> topyli, so there's nothing i should do?
[07:04] <Benji> gnomefreak: Good to have if you're running a mail server that's hosting pop3 for windows users
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: just believe it :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> if you need antivirus on linux your not doing something right
[07:04] <PeteyPablo> can somone give me the un tar.gz command?
[07:05] <dylan_> topyli, its very hard to believe it....i mean, why isnt there any linux virus / spyware?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Benji,  good point
[07:05] <drivamgr2006> since there are practically no virii which can infect linux, ttbomk, an antivirus package for linux is about as useless as as a chocolate parasol on a hot day.
[07:05] <skon> drivamgr2006: roflcopters
[07:05] <topyli> dylan_: very hard to write viruses and spyware for linux. i've never seen any
[07:05] <Sanne> PeteyPablo: look at 'man tar' in the example section.
[07:05] <ColonelPanique> PeteyPablo : tar zxvf <file>
[07:05] <PeteyPablo> ColonelPanique: thanks
[07:06] <topyli> dylan_: just keep your system up to date and don't surf the net as root
[07:06] <skon> dylan_: just shutdown the services you don't need and your linux is pretty much as secure as you'll ever need it to be
[07:06] <dylan_> skon, even as a server?
[07:06] <skon> dylan_: server for what?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> topyli, from my understanding worms or (viruses that attack mail) are really the only thing that linux users need to watch for
[07:06] <dylan_> skon, i dont really know yet....i am 15 years old and am looking for a career in computers and linux...
[07:07] <topyli> dylan_: if you want to run a service, you probably want it to be shown to the net, right? so nothing there, except to  make sure your software is up to date
[07:07] <skon> dylan_: I'm 17 and I'm looking for a career in computers and security :-D
[07:07] <pashaw> dylan_,   do you have cable or DSL?
[07:07] <Benji> anti-virus for linux is pretty much to keep the windows users that will transfer files/data off of your server on to their windows box
[07:07] <dylan_> pashaw, DSL
[07:07] <Benji> ie. samba fileserver, mail server, webserver, ftp
[07:07] <dabaR__> come on people
[07:07] <topyli> gnomefreak: yeah well, there are all kinds of cracks for insecure (not up to date) boxen with stupid admins
[07:07] <skon> linux is anti-virus
[07:07] <gnomefreak> topyli, true
[07:08] <pashaw> dylan_,   did it come with a firewall on your DSL modem/router   or did you add a firewall like a linksys/netgear?
[07:08] <diederick> gnomefreak, i'm still trying to install ubuntu, but the install stops at "detecting hardware" and "Loading module ide-generic"
[07:08] <ILF_> anyone know hot to get mplayer-nogui to breezy? marillats .deb has dependency problems :(
[07:08] <diederick> do you know ho I can fix that?
[07:08] <dylan_> pashaw, i have a d-link router
[07:08] <dylan_> 4 port
[07:08] <gnomefreak> diederick, did you reburn it?
[07:08] <skon> dylan_: if you want to run a "server", for example a web server, you'll just need to keep  apache2 running, and if you want to be able to acces your server from outside, you'll need an SSH server
[07:08] <diederick> yes
[07:08] <diederick> using the slowest speeds possible
[07:09] <pashaw> dylan_,   then  your good
[07:09] <Benji> and if you have a poo cable provider like mine...you'll have to have sshd listen on port 8022 or whatever above 1024
[07:09] <marcot> hi to all!!! W ubuntu for g3 ppc!! :-)
[07:09] <diederick> could it be that there is something with the IDE? or acpi?
[07:09] <pashaw> dylan_,   what do you want to learn first?    we can point you in the right direction
[07:09] <gnomefreak> diederick, could be
[07:09] <dylan_> pashaw, i want to learn security
[07:09] <gnomefreak> is that the only place its stopping?
[07:09] <dylan_> pashaw, and i want to be really really really comfy with the CLI
[07:10] <diederick> yes
[07:10] <topyli> dylan_: here's a howto if you want to improve the poor state of viruses on linux and try to write one: http://virus.enemy.org/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/
[07:10] <diederick> i'm trying noapic, nolapic no
[07:10] <diederick> now
[07:10] <fangorious> my laptop has suddenly switched to going to sleep instead of hibernate even though I specify the hibernate.sh script in sleepbtn.sh
[07:10] <pashaw> dylan_,   google    search   firewall   or router NAT    or  iptables
[07:10] <skon> Benji: why isn't it port 22?
[07:10] <topyli> dylan_: but it's not going to be easy to get it to spread :)
[07:10] <diederick> oh and somethimes at the keyboard selection/language selection..
[07:10] <Benji> skon: Because I can't accept connections outside on ports over 1024
[07:10] <topyli> skon: so that people supposedly have a harder time guessing the port
[07:10] <Benji> cable internet provider
[07:10] <gnomefreak> diederick, see it stopping there is what is bothering me about the iso/or burn
[07:11] <topyli> Benji: oh that too
[07:11] <pashaw> dylan_,    CLI    google search   BASH
[07:11] <skon> Benji: Interesting....I have cable too...what company?
[07:11] <Benji> er on ports less than 1024
[07:11] <Benji> i mean
[07:11] <Benji> it's a local cable provider
[07:11] <Benji> eastern ohio, western pa
[07:11] <dabaR__> !enter