[00:00] <BluesKaj> cmreigrut, have you tried Wicd, much superior to network management
[00:01] <BluesKaj> brb, gotta set up the sprinklers
[00:01] <cmreigrut> That was the earlier suggestion, and I'll still probably give it a try
[00:01] <cmreigrut> But at least I have nm functional now
[00:09]  * Captain_Haddock concurs on wicd... it's excellent
[00:09] <robin0800> set gui_url_mod 0
[00:09] <Captain_Haddock> while the network manager widget is a big improvement on earlier solutions, it's still far from perfect
[00:10] <Captain_Haddock> wicd's "connect before logging in" feature alone is worth its weight in gold
[00:12] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, the network managerment widget is unpredictable. Sometimes connects without a hitch and other times it keeps asking for pw's.
[00:12] <BluesKaj> on my setup at least
[00:13] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: yep. I faced a lot of issues with it misbehaving on my laptop... esp. when the pc wakes up from sleep mode
[00:14] <Captain_Haddock> and the incessant password requests really ticked me off :/
[00:15] <Captain_Haddock> time to sleep
[00:15] <Captain_Haddock> g'night!
[00:15] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus , suggested Wicd to me and I'm favourably impressed so far
[00:21] <yoga> What are blocked updates?
[00:36] <HaRDi437> yoga http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2009-06/msg00129.html
[00:37] <HaRDi437>  KPackagekit is the new in kubuntu so it;s still not so perfect
[01:09] <panos4ever> hi guys
[01:10] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: there?
[01:10] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, yep
[01:10] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: what was that grub editor you were telling me about?
[01:10] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, qgrubeditor
[01:11] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: i cant find it
[01:11] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, kgrubeditor is in the repos... should be similar
[01:11] <shadeslayer> its kgrubeditor
[01:11] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391
[01:12] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, ahhh... kgrubeditor replaces qgrubeditor
[01:12] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: BIG FAT NOTE :P
[01:12] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, last i used it, it didn't have the graphical effects you were talking about, though :/
[01:13] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: the only thing stopping me from having those effects is my architecture :P
[01:13] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, amd64?
[01:13] <shadeslayer> yep
[01:13] <panos4ever> guys do u know the sourcetype for tp-link wn322g for kismet???
[01:13] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: were always at the losing end of support
[01:14] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, i am 64-bit capable but still run 32bit OS for reasons like that.  i remember saying in 2004 that everything will be 64bit in the next year or so
[01:14] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: heh...everything will be 64 bit in a few years :P
[01:15] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: good thing for you...you can have those effects...theres a howto on ubuntu forums
[01:15] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, i blame Enterprise.  but i do want to eventually install a 64bit Kubuntu
[01:15] <panos4ever> u people dont really know a thing do u???
[01:15] <shadeslayer> i blame keeping the default download option as 64 bit
[01:16] <ign0ramus> panos4ever, you're the one with the questions
[01:16] <panos4ever> lol
[01:16] <panos4ever> nope
[01:16] <panos4ever> i could jys google it right??
[01:16] <shadeslayer> *32 bit
[01:16] <shadeslayer> panos4ever: yeah...
[01:16] <panos4ever> i was testing u
[01:16] <ign0ramus> panos4ever, honestly though, this is support for kubuntu... kismet isn't really a big topic here
[01:16] <panos4ever> i told u
[01:16] <panos4ever> it was a shit testing qest
[01:17] <panos4ever> question
[01:17] <bazhang> !ohmy > panos4ever
[01:17] <ign0ramus> bazhang, that is my favorite 'factoid' by far
[01:17] <bazhang> panos4ever, please keep on topic here
[01:18] <bazhang> ign0ramus, yep
[01:18] <panos4ever> ok ask me
[01:18] <panos4ever> ;)
[01:18] <compilerwriter> !nvidia
[01:18] <panos4ever> i love our kubuntu society
[01:19] <panos4ever> :)
[01:27] <Guest1036> anyone able to help me get ATI driver to play videos without using 100% cpu?
[01:27] <alonk> hello
[01:27] <carbon5> hey whats up?
[01:28] <alonk> hi........
[01:28] <carbon5> this is jus a purely ubuntu/ kubuntu help guide right?
[01:29] <kaddi> actually this is kubuntu only, if you need help with ubuntu please try #ubuntu
[01:29] <alonk> haha..... i juz wanna ask d same question...
[01:29] <carbon5> no no dont neep help
[01:29] <alonk> ok...
[01:29] <alonk> ubuntu
[01:29] <carbon5> jus thought this was also a "hat" chat
[01:30] <kaddi> if you just want to chat have a look at #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:49] <paulo> vao da o cu bando de viado
[01:49] <paulo> qm manda é windows
[01:49] <paulo> seus burro
[01:49] <paulo> Dos na veia
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[01:57] <kaddi> !ops
[02:00] <deprecated> Please fill in the blank, "In kubuntu, we don't use su, we use ________."
[02:00] <max_> !k3b
[02:01] <netdaemon> deprecated: sudo
[02:01] <netdaemon> or kdesudo to be precise
[02:02] <deprecated> That's it. I could not think of it for the life of me. Thanks netdaemon!
[02:02] <netdaemon> no problem :)
[02:41] <thomas> Hello, I booted my computer today and the kde kicker is missing
[02:41] <thomas> Anyone have idea on how to bring it back up?
[02:46] <ign0ramus> thomas, provided you're talking about the actual kicker panel, "kicker" will bring it back to life
[02:46] <thomas> I could be refering to the wrong thing
[02:46] <ign0ramus> thomas, kde 3 or 4?
[02:46] <thomas> I am looking for the toolbar at the bottom of kde
[02:46] <thomas> 4
[02:47] <ign0ramus> thomas, afaik, there is no way to reinstate an old panel that's been removed, but you can add a new one and add the same widgets you had before
[02:48] <thomas> Ok, what steps do I take to add it again
[02:48] <thomas> I can add widgets but dont have the bar to add them to
[02:48] <ign0ramus> thomas, right click the plasma dashboard (ie, desktop)
[02:48] <ign0ramus> thomas, 'unlock widgets'
[02:48] <ign0ramus> thomas, 'add panel
[02:50] <Serpardum> What should I use for RSS feeds in Kubuntu?  Kubuntu have anything good?
[02:50] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, as far as widgets? nothing great, imho :/
[02:50] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, sage in firefox is pretty good, though
[02:50] <Serpardum> I have firefox
[02:51] <thomas> I had added the panel but it will only allow me to move left side or right side, not bottom
[02:51] <ign0ramus> high rating, 2.5M downloads https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/77
[02:51] <Serpardum> is "Live Boomarks" sage?
[02:52] <thomas> I got it, thanks
[02:52] <origin> In the K-Menu, under the "Computer" tab in the "Applications" section. How do I add stuff to that? Also how do I make a direct link to the Add/Remove programs bit of System Settings
[02:53] <ign0ramus> origin, to add apps to the Kmenu, right click the icon > Menu Editor
[02:54] <origin> ign0ramus: How do I add to the "Computer" tab from there though?
[02:55] <ign0ramus> origin, ah, good question... i use the classic style menu.  seems the Menu Editor doesn't correspond to the new Kickoff Menu
[02:55] <luis__> i have this page: http://www.cabezadejapi.com/cdp_window/cdp_06_chicle.html , but i cant see the video because it says a unknown plugin is missing, can someone help me?
[02:55] <ign0ramus> luis__, mplayer plugin
[02:56] <LOLSHARK>
[02:56] <LOLSHARK>
[02:56] <LOLSHARK>
[02:56] <FloodBotK2> LOLSHARK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <origin> ign0ramus: Hmm. THanks anyway. I assume it's just .desktop files in a folder somewhere.
[02:57] <luis__> ign0ramus: how i can download it?
[02:57] <ign0ramus> origin, most likely
[02:58] <ign0ramus> luis__, "sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in"
[02:59] <luis__> thx
[02:59] <ign0ramus> origin, open dolphin.  see the 'places' menu on the left pane?  that's where the Computer entries come from apparently
[02:59] <ign0ramus> luis__, de nada
[02:59] <ign0ramus> origin, i just added /opt to that panel, and now it shows up in Kmenu > Computer
[03:00] <origin> Hmm... I'm trying to add to the "Applications" bit though... Hrmm...
[03:01] <ign0ramus> origin, oh... you should be able to use regular Menu Editor for that... right?
[03:02] <origin> Nope. that only adds to the "Applications" tab. I mean the bit under the "Computer" tab that says "Applications". In 9.04 it has "System Settings" and "Run Command..." in it.
[03:03] <ign0ramus> origin, i don't seem to have the same config :/
[03:03] <origin> You don't? Your on 9.04?
[03:04] <ign0ramus> origin, oh yes, now i see it
[03:04] <ign0ramus> origin, sorry never used this style menu before... 'applications' is very small on my screen
[03:04] <origin> ohh I see
[03:04] <origin> ign0ramus: Yea, I wanna add stuff to that
[03:05] <dio_> hello+
[03:05] <origin> ign0ramus: Namely, a direct link to the add/remove programs thing. and  link to Konsole link would be nice too.
[03:05] <ign0ramus> origin, let me see if i can find where they are called from
[03:05] <origin> I could just stick links in the Favorates area, but that seems klunky...
[03:09] <ign0ramus> origin, hmm... this seems to be trickier than first imagined
[03:09] <origin> Is it hard-coded into the Kickoff source or something crazy like that?
[03:10] <ign0ramus> origin, highly doubtful.
[03:10] <ign0ramus> origin, but where the config file is.... good question.
[03:10] <origin> I was going to say, that seems very non-modular
[03:11] <ign0ramus> origin, /home/user/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc is close but no cigar
[03:11] <origin> Allready saw that.
[03:11] <origin> I tried searching for a default or system-wide setting in /usr found nothing.
[03:12] <origin> no usefull hits for "kickoff*"
[03:12] <ign0ramus> origin, results replicated here :(
[03:12] <origin> Where in the KDE source-tree is Kickoff anyway? Is it a plasma applet?
[03:12] <ign0ramus> origin, yes, the kmenu is now a widget
[03:13] <origin> Yea I found it. /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/kickoff
[03:13] <ign0ramus> origin, really?
[03:13] <origin> Yea http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/kickoff/
[03:14] <ign0ramus> origin, so you have to re-compile?
[03:14] <origin> That's the trunk version and I'm not running from SVN, but i doubt it's changed much since 4.3 beta
[03:14] <origin> ign0ramus: I dunno yet. I'm just looking for clues in the source.
[03:21] <origin> ign0ramus: Hmm... now I'm not familiar with Plasma Programing or C++ so this is a little difficult... hrmm
[03:33] <origin> What does "::" mean in C++?
[03:35] <ign0ramus> origin, i'm not a programmer either
[03:36] <origin> I am a programer, just Java. Not C++
[03:36] <ign0ramus> origin, got it!
[03:36] <ign0ramus> origin, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3103189.0
[03:37] <ign0ramus> origin, specifically: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103189.msg177837#msg177837
[03:38] <origin> Ohh so you add to the kickoffrc file?
[03:38] <ign0ramus> origin, you have to add a new section: " [SystemApplications] "
[03:38] <luis__> ei i have a problem with kubuntu shuting down, it says: unable to halt, no such file or directory, and it doesnt tunrs down :(
[03:38] <origin> ign0ramus: Nice. Okay thanks!
[03:39] <ign0ramus> origin, np... stuff like that bothers me too :P
[03:41] <ign0ramus> luis__, is this using the "leave" button in Kmenu?
[03:41] <ign0ramus> luis__,  and is that the full error?
[03:42] <origin> I'm still tracking though the Kickoff code to see how it loads them... because I want to know now.
[03:42] <origin> xD
[03:43] <ign0ramus> origin, i do the same thing... usually im in over my head at first, but as you learn more, it starts to make sense :)
[03:43] <luis__> ign0ramus: no, when using konsole to shutdown i also have the halt problem
[03:44] <ign0ramus> luis__, can you pastebin your /etc/init.d/reboot please
[03:44] <luis__> and yes, thats the full error, it cant automatically shutdown
[03:44] <luis__> ???
[03:44] <ign0ramus> luis__, "kdesudo kate /etc/init.d/reboot" > copy/paste that file to pastebin
[03:44] <ign0ramus> !paste | luis
[03:44] <luis__> ok
[03:45] <ign0ramus> luis__, i was having a similar issue, and it was due to the "-d" parameter that reboot doesn't like.
[03:46] <luis__> ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/mbab9f68
[03:47] <ign0ramus> luis__, make a backup of this file: "sudo cp /etc/init.d/reboot /etc/init.d/reboot.bak"
[03:47] <ign0ramus> luis__, then modify your version in kate; remove the "-d" option on Line 20
[03:47] <ign0ramus> luis__, save, exit, restart X.  then *hopefully* rebooting will work properly
[03:47] <luis__> holda, i paste sudo cp /etc/init.d/reboot /etc/init.d/reboot.bak in konsole?
[03:47] <ign0ramus> luis__, si
[03:48] <luis__> ok, i hope
[03:49] <ign0ramus> luis__, verify that /etc/init.d/reboot.bak now exists
[03:49] <luis__> ok i will reboot now
[03:49] <ign0ramus> luis__, you restarted X first?
[03:49] <luis__> thx dude, if i have problems, i will contact with u tomorrow :)
[03:49] <luis__> i dont have more time, cya
[03:49] <ign0ramus> luis__, you have my msn
[03:49] <ign0ramus> luis__, saludos
[03:49] <luis__> no, i will contact u by irc lol
[03:49] <luis__> adios
[03:50] <ign0ramus> luis__, ok. goodnight
[03:50] <luis__> :)
[03:54] <Serpardum> What is the name of the widget that shows the open applications on the taskbar?
[03:54] <Serpardum> My son accidnetly removed his, I dont' remember the name
[03:54] <Dragnslcr> I think it's Task Manager
[03:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it is
[03:55] <Serpardum> thanks Dragnslcr
[03:55] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[04:07] <origin> ign0ramus: Okay. I've traced it back to the KDE core libaries where it loads the config files... lol
[04:08] <ign0ramus> origin, have fun messing with those! :P
[04:08] <origin> It's actualy quite clever. It just asks KDE for it's config. It does't need to know where KDE stores it.  Prior argument or just a random troll?
[04:16] <origin> ign0ramus: Yet more abstraction! It loads the dirs though http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKStandardDirs.html but that loads them from a resource file...
[04:17] <ign0ramus> origin, "....So the search algorithm basically appends to each prefix each registered suffix and tries to locate the file there."
[04:17] <ign0ramus> origin, awesome.
[04:18] <ign0ramus> origin, so what does " :: " mean?
[04:19] <origin> ign0ramus: No idea. I think it might just declare methods of classes.
[04:19] <origin> Any C++ coders here care to shed some light on what "::" means?
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> It isn't static class method?
[04:19] <origin> I could go bug the guys in #kde-devel (was that the channel name?) lol
[04:20] <Pici> origin: Try ##C++
[04:20] <origin> Dragnslcr: I could well be
[04:20] <origin> *it
[04:20] <ign0ramus> origin, search engines are terrible for regex
[04:20] <origin> ign0ramus: huh?
[04:20] <ign0ramus> origin, try typing a regular expression from almost any language in a search engine.  useless
[04:21] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:21] <origin> Sorry.
[04:21] <Pici> origin: ##c++ would be able to answer all your c++ questions better than we can
[04:21] <Pici> You might need to register to join though.
[04:21] <Pici> !register
[04:22] <origin> Pici: True, I was just wondering off-hand.
[04:22] <ign0ramus> origin, Dragnslcr, gnite fellas
[04:22] <origin> ign0ramus: Night
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> G'night
[04:36] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:38] <dsmith> how can one upgrade to 4.3 before its relase?
[04:39] <origin> WHere are my enviroment varables defined?
[04:42] <dsmith> orogin, java?
[05:19] <joshua__> so... what is so great about kubuntu that ubuntu doesn't have?
[05:25] <joshua___> how do i install software on kde?
[05:25] <max_> add/remove in the kmenu or adept package manager.
[05:26] <bazhang> joshua___, same as on ubuntu (via the cli) or a package manager
[05:26] <joshua___> what package manager is on kubuntu?
[05:26] <bazhang> !info kpackagekit
[05:27] <joshua___> I don't see it anywhere
[05:27] <bazhang> see what
[05:27] <joshua___> kpackagekit
[05:28] <bazhang> install it
[05:29] <joshua___> how did i install kubuntu without installing a kpackagekit?
[05:29] <bazhang> live cd?
[05:30] <joshua___> no via cli in ubuntu
[05:30] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:30] <joshua___> yeah
[05:32] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename   <---- joshua___
[05:32] <joshua___> I did...
[05:32] <joshua___> but now when i open kpackagekit...there are no available packages...
[05:34] <joshua___> this is messed up
[05:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> joshua___: kpackagekit is terrible :/
[05:38] <joshua___> then why did they tell me to install it?
[05:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Its the default in Jaunty, and is one of the buggiest programs Ive ever used. I have no idea why it replaced the old one o_O
[05:41] <joshua___> that is messed up
[05:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Even the error messages are messed up: "A problem we were not expe". And thats why I'm still running Hardy lol
[05:43] <bazhang> there are number of package managers, joshua___ , or even just the konsole you can choose which to install (or remove should you not like it)
[05:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Ive heard KDE4's version of Adept is even worse, tho I reverted my install before I tried another manager (I also had problems with graphics and the KDE menu)
[05:48] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: are you free??
[05:50] <shadeslayer> ok anyone who can give me some info on the kubuntu-tutorials coming up?
[06:11] <shadeslayer> yeah...so anyone who can give me info on the kubuntu tutorials?
[06:19] <shadeslayer> brb
[06:22] <tymon> Hello, i'm with a problem here with my soundcard... well, its not really a problem, its just that on windows i can tell it do this: "Black output = line out", since my green minijack is not working properly, and i need to do that on ubuntu to get audio too
[06:22] <tymon> any ideas?
[06:24] <tymon> ops.
[06:26] <shadeslayer> tymon: why do you call the ops??
[06:26] <tymon> No
[06:26] <tymon> I mean "oops".
[06:26] <shadeslayer> oh.... ok..see this
[06:26] <tymon> heh
[06:26] <shadeslayer> !sound | tymon
[06:28] <tymon> i dont think that is what i need exactly, i just want to control where the sound will come out in the soundcard, which connector will have the output
[06:28]  * shadeslayer wonders if there actually is something named soubd system....
[06:28] <shadeslayer> *sound
[06:31] <shadeslayer> tymon: imho all sound cards are intelligent enough to recognise if there is a headphone plugged in or not and redirect sound as required...but yours seems to be a peculiar case
[06:32] <tymon> hm..., nvm
[06:32] <shadeslayer> tymon: ok
[06:32] <tymon> Looks like i can't use the grey exit like i do on windows for it
[06:33] <tymon> but the black one worked fine
[07:01] <shadeslayer> sorry got disconnected...
[07:10] <insmod> i lost right and left menu function on my mouse all users all desktops any idea?
[07:13] <shadeslayer> insmod: alt+F2 > window > select first option and change the settings there
[07:14] <shadeslayer> insmod: its under the window actions tab
[07:17] <shadeslayer> insmod: did it work?
[07:17] <insmod> i can not figure where it  is
[07:20] <insmod> shadeslayer: no idea what todo there is no menu option
[07:22] <shadeslayer> insmod: no option for window actions?
[07:22] <shadeslayer> *tab
[07:22] <shadeslayer> oh wait....
[07:23] <shadeslayer> insmod: try alt+F1 > system settings > mouse and keyborad
[07:23] <shadeslayer> *keyboard
[07:25] <insmod> switched mice now it goes
[07:25] <insmod> thanks
[07:25] <insmod> i think i dropped it to many times
[07:27] <shadeslayer> insmod: hehe..
[07:45] <origin> What does flashplayer 10 output it's sound too?
[07:48] <shadeslayer> the speaker :P
[07:48] <origin> shadeslayer: The wrong speaker in my case. lol
[07:48] <origin> I mean what service thing. Because it isn't Phanon.
[07:48] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[07:49] <shadeslayer> i think arts...
[07:49] <shadeslayer> !sound
[07:49] <origin> I don't see an arts process...
[07:50] <origin> I have two sets of speakers. Tinny ones and big ones. I want almost everything to play though the big ones and use the tinny ones for notifications. Phonon can do this but Flashplayer isn't useing that apparently so I need to figure out what it's playing it's sound though so I can change it. to the right speakers...
[07:56] <origin> *sigh* is there some funky way of forceing GTK apps to use Phonon. Just pushing sound though it I mean instead of ALSA or OSS or something old like that.
[08:01] <Mamarok> origin: that's not a problem of GTK, it's a flash problem IMHO
[08:02] <origin> Mamarok: Before (before I re-installed linux) I solved it by makeing pulse audio the default for everything and set pulse's default sink to the big speakers. So it can be done...
[08:03] <Mamarok> origin: in KDE?
[08:05] <origin> Yea. KDE4 had it's default for all types of sound (appart from the notifications, which were pointed directly at the tinny speakers' output) pointed at pulseaudio. Pulse was setup with the big speakers as the default sink.
[08:05] <origin> All KDE4 apps used phonon. So their sound was routed though pulse. Everything else just used pulse.
[08:05] <origin> KDE itself is the only think that realy makes notification sounds so it all worked quite well.
[08:06] <origin> pulse isn't installed this time round and I'm looking if it's possible to do it without it.
[08:06] <origin> I mean. Pulse isn't installed. and flash can play sound, just thought the wrong speakers, so it must be playing though something.
[08:07] <origin> where are alsa's config files...
[08:10] <digdeep> hi, does anyone use unetbootin?
[08:12] <origin> Ah! Problem solved. Flash was useing ALSA. So I made an /etc/asound.conf to set the default sound card. No Pulse requred.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:22] <thao> Hi, I've just installed Kubuntu into my Laptop (Vaio GGN C190p)
[09:23] <thao> I got sound work perfectly with amarok, vlc ... but not Flash !!!
[09:23] <thao> I tried every solutions in google, but nothing changed
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> oh boy
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> theres a billion fixes for this
[09:24] <Seli> hello, I'd need help with packaging - I have a tarball with wrong layout, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete says it's not a reason to redo the tarball, but it actually doesn't say how to fix it - can somebody tell me?
[09:24] <thao> something like reinstall, get the one from adobe.com,... no solution work :(
[09:24] <Serpico> ciao
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> thao: let me websearch some
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> thao: are you running 32bit ubuntu or 64bit?
[09:26] <thao> 32bit
[09:26] <thao> ActionParsnip:
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> i'll stop looking then:(
[09:29] <rohan> there is no ubottu here?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> thao: try: amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[09:30] <thao> ActionParsnip: ?
[09:30] <rohan> ActionParsnip: ah, sorry, got it
[09:30] <thao> ActionParsnip: amixer: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> thao: if that doesnt work try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> I hate flash
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> thao: if you bring up kmix (speaker icon near the clock) make sure all sliders are ~80% and unmuted
[09:34] <thao> ActionParsnip: I'll try
[09:37] <thao> ActionParsnip: I tried running kmix, but the windows didn't show up
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> thao: right click on the speaker icon and select show mixer window
[09:38] <thao> ActionParsnip: 80% huh ?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> thao: 100% degrades quality some, you can whack it to the to pif you wish
[09:40] <thao> ActionParsnip: i set it 100% already,
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ok thats cool
[09:40] <thao> also run the command you gave me
[09:40] <thao> and restart ff
[09:40] <thao> and no sound
[09:40] <thao> :)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> let me hunt some more
[09:41] <ka> Hi. So stumbled on to this problem once again today. Trying to change ownership on a file with the charachter ø fails. I get the following error: "Could not change owner on this file: verdigrunnlag og �velser.doc". Any Ideas as to how to konquer ;p this issue. I have always solved it from the commandline before. But the whole thing really bugs me and it shouldn't really be an issue, this is after all 2009...
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> thao: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136556&page=3
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ka: kdesudo konqueror
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ka: change the filename then close konqueror
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> thao: do you have other flash plugins install like gnash / swfplayer etc?
[09:49] <thao> ActionParsnip: no,i don't have
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> thao: good
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> thao: they fight and nothing works :)
[09:51]  * thao restart
[09:51] <ka> ActionParsnip: I forgot to say that I am already root ;)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ka: you shouldnt be root, you should be you
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ka: enabling the root account reduces system security
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ka: and running web based apps (especially irc) is possibly the worst thing to do
[09:54] <ka> ActionParsnip: It was just my way of saying I already done this as "kdesudo konqueror". Or else I wouldn't be able to change the permissions...
[09:54] <ka> me/ know the dangers of running root.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> ka: good, i just hate folks running x as root when they are just browsing the web, its retarded. Glad you are aware
[09:55] <thao> ActionParsnip: finally
[09:55] <thao> :D
[09:55] <thao> it's work
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> ka: you could try globbing
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> thao: nice
[09:55] <thao> ActionParsnip: thanks,
[09:55] <thao> bb
[09:56]  * ka scratches his head, while he googles "globbing"
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> ka: copy the file to its own folder
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> ka: then run a command like: for i in ls; do mv "i$" ./new; done
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ka: there is only one file in the folder so only one file will be mv'd
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ka: you will need to cd into the new folder too
[09:59] <ka> hm. But this is only one of many files in one of many different folders. That would take hours. Easier with the commandline then. But as I said this really shouldn't happen. Konq should be able to do simple operations like changing permissions just as well as any comandline...
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ka: you can sudo chmod and sudo chown
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> ka: sudo chown $USER ./<filename>
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> ka: or you can use: sudo chown -R $USER /some/directory    to recursively chown all files and folders
[10:01] <ka> Yeah I know, I'm just dissapointed at konqueror...
[10:03] <ka> But thanks anyway. So should I file a bug report? This also applies to changing filenames on files with umlaut characters...
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ka: if you wish
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ka: i dont use konqueror (or any gui file manager) so I am not aware if this is a sortcoming
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> s/sortcoming/shortcoming
[10:07] <ka> I have been tempted but the very same notion. But I don't know all the commands I would need to know. But this recurring problem has got me thinking again... As Perry DeAngelis said: "Question everything!"
[10:07] <cristian> hi
[10:07] <cristian> i've a problem
[10:07] <cristian> :P
[10:07] <ka> cristian: Let's have it
[10:07] <cristian> haha
[10:08] <cristian> it's simple... I see the same windows on all the desktops... I wanna REAL four desktops in kde
[10:08] <cristian> like gnome
[10:09] <ka> Hm strange it works the same. So you must have done something strange.
[10:11] <ka> There is a button the lets you see a window on all desktops. Its on the left side on the top. It's a circle with a dot inside. click this and the window will only be visible on that one desktop.
[10:12] <cristian> I mean same windows on the panel
[10:12] <cristian> sorry for my english
[10:13] <ka> aha. Just right click on the taskbar and choose settings then under filters just show windows for current desktop.
[10:14] <ka> You will have to have an empty space to clik on or else you woun't get the right context menu.
[10:14] <cristian> aah
[10:15] <cristian> i'll see that
[10:15] <cristian> ka: THANK YOUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <ka> no problem.
[10:17] <cristian> It's difficult to
[10:17] <cristian> accustom
[10:17] <cristian> to kde 4.2
[10:17] <cristian> :P
[10:17] <cristian> adapt*
[10:18] <cristian> after kde 3.5
[10:22] <ka> After a while everything just seems more intuitive..at least for me. But some problems seems never to be solved (the same ones the were in 3.5)
[10:23] <cristian> yes, maybe
[10:25] <shadeslayer> quit
[10:29] <ka> hm Anyone else using quassel?
[10:30] <cristian> yes, me
[10:31] <ka> What is the point of having a quassel icon in the systemtray when It sits in the taskbar if I minimize the app? I I try to close it then it shuts down! I mean wtf?
[10:33] <cristian> ka: hahaha
[10:33] <cristian> I wonder the same thing
[10:35] <cristian> i think that konversation is better
[10:36] <ka> Yes I might have to go back. This is a serious usabilitybug... What were they thinking?
[10:37] <cristian> I don't know... It's very uncomfortable
[10:42] <jussi01> ka_: there is an option in the settings to turn that behaviour on
[10:42] <jussi01> its just not on by default.
[10:43] <jussi01> ka: its under Misc in the settings
[10:44] <ka> jussi01: ah... much better
[10:45] <jussi01> ka: :D Perhaps file a bug mentioning that should be on by default
[10:45] <ka> I was thinking the exact same thing...
[10:46]  * jussi01 points ka to Launchpad
[10:46] <jussi01> !bug | ka
[10:47] <ka> Isn't it better to file it upstream?
[10:48] <ka> Or does it automatically get redirected to kde?
[10:49] <jussi01> ka: quassel is independant of KDE
[10:49] <jussi01> ka: however, settings like that will probably be set by Ubuntu.
[10:49] <ka> I thought it was the default KDE4 irc client. Maybe I misread default kubuntu to mean default KDE4
[10:50] <jussi01> ka: I thinkk maybe.
[10:50] <jussi01> ka: quassel is cross platform, windows, mac and linux
[10:50] <jussi01> :)
[10:51] <ka> Aha good point . I also have issues with the quassel settings. The gui is not consistent.
[10:51] <jussi01> ka: so please, We would love to see a bug filed. :)
[10:51] <jussi01> or bugs as the case maybe
[10:51] <ka> I am on it. just need to formulate my thought to a coherent mass of genius ideas.
[10:52] <ka> thought=thoughts
[10:53] <jussi01> ka: if they are not just settings bugs, you can of course pop them on quassel-irc.org
[10:53] <jussi01> and maybe join #quassel to have a chat about them, but dont substitute chat for actually filing bugs :)
[10:54] <ka> Could not upload report data to crash database:
[10:54] <ka> HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable
[10:55] <robin0800> ka launchpad planed maintenance 24th June 2009 from 09.00 UTC
[10:55] <ka> robin0800: ah... thanks
[11:01] <shanipribadi> is there anyone using kopete to connect to yahoo? cos right now it's not working saying with error 10, even though last night it worked just fine
[11:01] <Mamarok> !yahoo | shanipribadi
[11:02] <shanipribadi> Mamarok: ok, ill try that
[11:15] <shanipribadi> Mamarok: the workaround did not work, i'm gonna try pidgin, i read that they fixed something with yahoo.
[11:17] <Mamarok> shanipribadi: well, this workaround is for pidgin :)
[11:18] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: thats not accurate to be honest im able to connect to yahoo im both on pidgin on linux and on windows version of it
[11:18] <eagles0513875> ahhhh wait
[11:18] <eagles0513875> duh nm
[11:18] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: think before writing, please
[11:29]  * jussi01 waves to Mamarok
[11:29] <hamp> anybody that can help me understand how to join other channels? on other servers?
[11:30]  * Mamarok waves back to jussi01 :)
[11:31] <Mamarok> hamp: to join a channel, you can type /join #channelname
[11:31] <Mamarok> hamp: and to join other servers, you need to add the other server to the servers list in your channel
[11:42] <Think-Free> Hi ! Is there a way put use dolphin as an active ftp client ? By default, it seems he is in passive mode
[11:45] <Think-Free> any body ?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: missed your question...can you ask again?
[11:47] <Think-Free> Is there a way put use dolphin as an active ftp client ? By default, it seems he is in passive mode
[11:50] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: whats the problem?
[11:50] <Think-Free> shadeslayer : did you see the question ?
[11:50] <Think-Free> I want to connect to a ftp server in active mode
[11:50] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: no..i got  disconnected
[11:51] <Think-Free> ok : Hi ! Is there a way put use dolphin as an active ftp client ? By default, it seems he is in passive mode
[11:51] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: konqueror?
[11:51] <Think-Free> that's the same, it use kio
[11:51] <Think-Free> but it work in passive mode :(
[11:52] <Think-Free> and I can't find a way to turn it in active
[11:52] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: is dolphin a necessity? cant you do it any other thing?
[11:52] <shadeslayer> !ftp | Think-Free
[11:54] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/active-ftp-and-konqueror-kbear-mozilla-et-all...-376351/
[11:55] <Think-Free> I like dolphin and I don't want to change my ftp client, just configure it ;)
[11:55] <Think-Free> Thanks for the link, I'm looking at this
[11:56] <shadeslayer> Think-Free: hmm.. i have no idean then...fiddle around tho...and theres always google :)
[11:56] <mjobin> kfmclient copy ftp://host/path/file ~/Downoad/
[11:56] <Think-Free> shadeslayer : tks ;)
[11:58] <mjobin> by the way, FTP is dead, we shall all use scp/ssh
[11:59] <mjobin> shadeslayer: such an old link .... kde 3.2 ? is this still accurate ?
[12:22] <ka> or fish
[12:25] <n8w> hey
[12:27] <n8w> ive got a prob with my newly installed kubuntu...i cant set up higher resolution than 1680x1080 eventhough that my ntb supports 1680x1200
[12:27] <n8w> does any of u know the solution for this?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> !resolution | n8w
[12:27] <tdn> How do I disable bluetooth so that the module is not loaded upon startup but only when needed and so that the bluetooth daemon is only started, when I start it and not during startup? I do not want to waster battery on this device, since I almost never use it.
[12:28] <ka> Think-Free: just write<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for active mode (I think) or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:28] <ka> In the adressbar.
[12:28] <ka> install bum and enable disable there.
[12:29] <n8w> shadeslayer: ok thx...
[12:30] <ka> tdn: My last post was to you...
[12:30] <shadeslayer> ka: i dont think that will help...bum installs or removes scripts/programs....i think he might have to blacklist or remocve the module and modprobe it to get it back :)
[12:30] <shadeslayer> *remove
[12:30] <tdn> ka, ok.
[12:31] <Anon1> hi
[12:31] <ka> shadeslayer: Nope I don't think so just uses bum for this yesterday... But I am not 100% sure
[12:31] <shadeslayer> ka: me neither...
[12:31] <ka> uses=used
[12:31] <shadeslayer> ka: i got it
[12:32] <Anon1> i have a problem, when i try to enter the password after i type "su" in terminal i cant type
[12:32] <shadeslayer> ka: we can add a line to rc.local to bring down the interface
[12:32] <shadeslayer> Anon1: just type the pass and press enter..its a security feature
[12:33] <ka> Anon1: Just type and press enter when finished. It's hidden.
[12:33] <Anon1> ok thanks
[12:33] <ka> shadeslayer: ?que?
[12:33] <shadeslayer> !password > Anon1
[12:33] <shadeslayer> ka: man hcitools
[12:33] <shadeslayer> -s
[12:34] <ka> No manual entry for hcitools
[12:34] <shadeslayer> ka: man hcitool :P
[12:35] <grandi> is there a kde4 version of adept?
[12:35] <ka> ah sorry I am not quit awake..
[12:35] <shadeslayer> grandi: adept is depriciated
[12:35] <shadeslayer> ka: hehe also see man hciconfig
[12:36] <shadeslayer> tdn: ok please see the man pages of hciconfig to bring down the interface
[12:36] <grandi> so what's going to replace it?
[12:36] <shadeslayer> grandi: kpackagekit
[12:36] <shadeslayer> !info kpackagekit | grandi
[12:37] <shadeslayer> tdn: you can add a line to rc.local...but that will get the interface down only after the boot...not before it
[12:38] <shadeslayer> if anyone has a better idea..please suggest :)
[12:38] <grandi> shadeslayer: that's quite minimalistic
[12:39] <grandi> to say the least
[12:39] <ka> Anon1: Seems like you could write hciconfig down to stop bluetooth and hciconfig up to start it.
[12:39] <shadeslayer> grandi: sorry?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> grandi: if you dont like kpackagekit then use apt-get and apt-cache
[12:40] <shadeslayer> +search
[12:40] <grandi> shadeslayer: how do you browse packages with kpackagekit
[12:40] <bazhang> grandi, you can install adept, synaptic also
[12:40] <tdn> ka, bum appearently only allows me to disable services. I want to not even load the module.
[12:40] <grandi> or do you use add/remove packages for that?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> grandi: have you installed kpackagekit?
[12:40] <grandi> yes
[12:41] <shadeslayer> tdn: ah.... rmmod <module>
[12:41] <tdn> shadeslayer, I would really not like to start it up at all.
[12:41] <tdn> shadeslayer, that does only remove the module.
[12:41] <grandi> I have empty search field there
[12:41] <tdn> shadeslayer, I want the module to not be loaded at all.
[12:41] <shadeslayer> grandi: just type and press enter
[12:41] <grandi> doesn't really help me if I want to browse packages for something interesting
[12:41] <grandi> type what? the idea of GUI is that it gives you hints to what you can do
[12:42] <grandi> without those hints I could just use apt-get
[12:42] <ka> tdn: I dont know if it makes any difference. having the module installed but not enabled doesn't use battery or increase boot time...
[12:42] <shadeslayer> grandi: thats a downside i agree...
[12:43] <shadeslayer> tdn: rmmod module removes the module and does not load/start the service
[12:44] <tdn> shadeslayer, I know. I do not want the module to be loaded during start up. Same with service. Bluetooth service should not start up during boot.
[12:45] <tdn> ka, it seems that it does save battery. According to powertop.
[12:45] <shadeslayer> tdn: as i said it will *not* be loaded
[12:45] <shadeslayer> tdn: dont listen to powertop
[12:45] <tdn> shadeslayer, rmmod only unloads the module. The module is loaded next time I boot.
[12:46] <shadeslayer> tdn: then blacklist it
[12:46] <shadeslayer> !blacklist | tdn
[12:47] <tdn> shadeslayer, thanks.
[12:47] <shadeslayer> tdn: no problem :)
[12:48] <shadeslayer> bazhang: there?
[12:49] <bazhang> shadeslayer, yes
[12:49] <shadeslayer> bazhang: can i talk for a minute in PM about the kubuntu tutorials coming up?
[12:49] <bazhang> shadeslayer, no idea about them, why not just say in channel
[12:49] <grandi> It seems that I have synaptic, add/remove programs and kpackagekit installed
[12:50] <grandi> it's as bad as gnome :(
[12:50] <tdn> shadeslayer, which Kubuntu tutorials? Sounds interesting. Please let us know about it :)
[12:50] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ok.. thanks,should i ask here or ot ?
[12:50] <shadeslayer> tdn: /topic
[12:50] <shadeslayer> grandi: personally i prefer cli
[12:50] <tdn> Ok.
[12:51] <grandi> I like GUI because most of the time I don't have any idea what I'm doing
[12:53] <shadeslayer> grandi: well apt-cache search <random-intelligent-search> gives me quite a good list
[12:54] <grandi> sure, but if you browse those packages you can find real gems
[12:55] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:55] <grandi> related question. if I want to install kformula why does it want to uninstall 221 packages
[12:55] <shadeslayer> grandi: dependency problems
[12:55] <shadeslayer> !dependency
[12:56] <grandi> that's what I digured out
[12:56] <shadeslayer> argh.. whats the factoid for this
[12:56] <shadeslayer> grandi: oh good you know already :)
[12:56] <grandi> but considering that kformula is part of KDE Office Suite it's bit odd
[12:57] <shadeslayer> any potential package which is *very* important?
[12:57] <grandi> that it wants to uninstall?
[12:57] <shadeslayer> grandi: yep
[12:59] <grandi> dolphin, gwenview, kate, kdebase-bin, -data, -plasma, -runtime etc.
[12:59] <shadeslayer> grandi: do not install that package
[12:59] <grandi> well it seemed to be quite bad tradeoff
[13:00] <grandi> kformula vs. working system
[13:01] <shadeslayer> heh...
[13:01] <shadeslayer> grandi: dont worry itll probably be solved in a few days..
[13:18] <tracyvxu> hi!
[13:19] <tracyvxu> It's the fisrt time to ues the program
[13:19] <tracyvxu> Is there anybody ?
[13:20] <tracyvxu> hi
[13:21] <tracyvxu> hi vistaus
[13:21] <Vistaus> hello
[13:21] <tracyvxu> It's my fist time to use the program
[13:21] <Vistaus> how can I see which cd device I have? I already have tried to look it up on dmesg and in /dev, but I dont see it
[13:22] <Vistaus> anyone?
[13:23] <tracyvxu> Sorry ! I don't know ! try somebody else !do you use the Kde enriroment like ?
[13:23] <Vistaus> I use Kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.2.4
[13:24] <tracyvxu> o! i just shift from gnome.
[13:24] <Vistaus> but the commands should be the same in gnome and kde
[13:24] <tracyvxu> yeah
[13:25] <Vistaus> so what command did you use on gnome to look up your dvd device?
[13:25] <Vistaus> cd/dvd*
[13:25] <bazhang> what about 'sudo lshw'
[13:26] <tracyvxu> you can have a try
[13:26] <Vistaus> I already used that, but the k3b devs say that they need to know exactly which device it is in /ev for example
[13:27] <tracyvxu> o ! that's a mess.
[13:28] <Vistaus> I also tried ls -l /dev* but it doesnt come up with a dvd device
[13:28] <tracyvxu> i wish you can get the anwer from the others.
[13:28] <tracyvxu> see you 1
[13:33] <unknown__> hi
[13:33] <Anon1> anyone knows how to install alien arena 2009?
[13:35] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install alien-arena Anon1
[13:37] <JukeBoxHero> hi, was installing kubuntu-desktop, then had a powercut, now http://www.imgx.org/pfiles/17388/Screenshot.png
[13:37] <JukeBoxHero> how to come out of it?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: whoa!! can you paste your sources.lst?
[13:38] <mixael> hi/hola
[13:38] <JukeBoxHero> ok sec
[13:38] <shadeslayer> mixael: hey
[13:39] <mixael> shadeslayer: how are ?
[13:40] <shadeslayer> mixael: im fine :)
[13:41] <mixael> of what are talkin the people here?
[13:41] <JukeBoxHero> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.ca/1472484
[13:42] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: gimme a moment :)
[13:44] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: http://pastebin.com/f5a9867ab << the part above ######### line is a completely untouched original list
[13:45] <JukeBoxHero> shadeslayer: need to add those two additional lines?
[13:45] <JukeBoxHero> is that safe?
[13:46] <JukeBoxHero> coz one is nightly there
[13:46] <JukeBoxHero> i would prefer stable
[13:46] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: only if you want nightly and 4.2.4 :)
[13:46] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: as i said only the lines above the #####
[13:47] <JukeBoxHero> shadeslayer: you uncommented backports and partner?
[13:47] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: you are definitely missing a few lines..
[13:47] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: yes..
[13:47] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: edit them to your likes
[13:47] <JukeBoxHero> just those two should be enough?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: i would recommend copy the whole of it and backing up your current one
[13:48] <shadeslayer> *copying
[13:49] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: that is except the nightly and 4.2.4 repo
[13:49] <JukeBoxHero> ok
[13:51] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: then type this : sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <JukeBoxHero> shadeslayer: what is that fix missing argument?
[13:54] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: did it work?
[13:54] <JukeBoxHero> --fix-missing or --fixmising
[13:54] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: --fix-broken ?
[13:55] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: i wouldnt recommend it...
[13:55] <shadeslayer> JukeBoxHero: if you go ahead and something bad happens im not responsible
[13:55] <JukeBoxHero> sure you arent
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:13] <oom> Can anyone tell me how to add additional servers to my server list on "Konversation"?  The default only lists one.
[14:15] <oom> Oh, I might have figured it out.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> oom, you have to look for the irc url on the net , like undernet : irc.undernet.org and addit to tyour list and configure the server and yur nick/profile identity etc
[14:17] <BluesKaj> there is no auto server list in konversation...it's done manually , altho I've heard of a script
[14:18] <oom> ...and I was unsuccessful.  So, does anyone know how to add additional servers to the server list using "Konversation"?  The default only lists one.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> !repeat | oom
[14:21] <BluesKaj> oom, you have to add the servers manually as I posted , above.
[14:35] <victor__> Il y a des français ?
[14:35] <bazhang> !fr | victor__
[14:40]  * libervisco is really disappointed with the performance of some KDE apps or elements..
[14:42] <esperegu> how to make SIP calls on kde?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> libervisco, any in particular ?
[14:43] <libervisco> BluesKaj, well it tends to happen when there are content areas with medium to large lists of things or lots of text..
[14:43] <libervisco> scrolling and resizing slows down to an annoying level
[14:44] <libervisco> that's a recurring problem all the way from 4.0 up to 4.3 beta2..
[14:44] <BluesKaj> in text editors ?
[14:45] <libervisco> I thought it was all my ATI Radeon card with incomplete xorg drivers, but I bought a new nvidia card (in big part because I wanted to have a smooth KDE4 experience) and it still happens, not to such an extent, but still annoying
[14:45] <libervisco> BluesKaj, in text editors, amarok, lists in settings..
[14:47] <libervisco> I guess it's not anything critical, but still.. the idea is to be smooth :)
[14:47] <Fanfare> Hi @ all
[14:47] <BluesKaj> I have an older nvidia 7600GT card and haven't experienced such a problem , but I don't have any large playlists or texts , altho i have noticed the netradio lists in amarok are slow to respond
[14:48] <libervisco> yeah, that's that kind of thing
[14:48] <Fanfare> Q: Any alternative to enscript to encode (UTF8-)Text to ps/pdf?
[14:48] <libervisco> another concrete example is quassel
[14:49] <libervisco> compared to xchat, especially if you've got a window full of conversations, it's gonna be slow to resize and even delay sending messages by a second or two
[14:49] <libervisco> xchat is super snappy no matter how big a conversation backlog you have
[14:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , not a fan I'm afraid ,  just don't like the "look" quassel has
[14:50] <libervisco> I could get used to it if it was snappier, I like its integration with KDE (notifications and such) :)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> konversation 1.2 is working fine here
[14:51] <libervisco> Does it use QT4?
[14:51] <libervisco> oh.. that's a new one..
[14:51]  * libervisco gotta check it out
[14:51] <BluesKaj> it must cuz it's kde4.2
[14:51] <libervisco> oh
[14:52] <libervisco> only 1.1 is in repositories
[14:52] <libervisco> I guess that one is Qt3?
[14:53] <ka> libervisco: I agree this is a serious bug. Couldn't for the life of me understand why everything was so damn slow.
[14:55] <libervisco> yeah
[14:55] <anna__> ?
[14:55] <MIHEY> вах )
[14:55] <MIHEY> Всем добрый день
[14:56] <MIHEY> Руддщ )
[14:56] <anna__> wo bin ich?
[14:56] <MIHEY> Hello
[14:56] <MIHEY> Halo
[14:56] <anna__> hallo?
[14:57] <MIHEY> ye bkb rfr nfv gj ytvrtwrb
[14:57] <anna__> hhhh
[14:58] <MIHEY> как там по немецки
[14:58] <MIHEY> не изучал данного языка
[14:58] <genii> !ru | MIHEY
[14:58] <anna__> can anybody read this???
[14:58] <MIHEY> genii tnx )
[14:59] <genii> anna__: Yes, we see your typing
[14:59] <anna__> ja geil
[14:59] <ka> There is some disappointment with the performance of some KDE apps or elements.. among others quassel. It seems that apps with long listes of text become very unresponsive. Is this a problem originating from QT or KDE4?
[15:00] <anna__> jemand hier der deutsch spricht und schreibt????
[15:01] <genii> !de | anna__
[15:01] <genii> anna__: If you stay in this channel, please ask your questions in English :)
[15:02] <ubuntu> Hello! Quick question. I have Ubuntu but the mouse doesnt woork there any more. so now I\m on a Kubuntu live CD and I just need to retrive some old files from Ubuntu before installing Ubuntu ..but I can\t find the folders in where they were, actually, I cant find any ubuntu folders ..is it possible *i\m on a live CD(
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !ru
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !ru
[15:05] <libervisco> ka, I wouldn't know..
[15:05] <BluesKaj> oopsd
[15:05]  * genii hands BluesKaj more coffee
[15:06] <bondgirl> a question about networking
[15:06] <bondgirl> can anyone helpme to config a fixed ip in terminal or KDE modus
[15:07]  * BluesKaj gulps coffee :P
[15:07] <bondgirl> ubottu: i don' t understand russian :(
[15:07] <ksfree> what file manager shoud i use
[15:07] <ksfree> ?
[15:07] <bondgirl> ubottu: ifconfig
[15:07] <ksfree> in kde
[15:08] <bondgirl> ksfree "kopete"
[15:08] <bondgirl> i think
[15:08] <Mamarok> ksfree: dolphin
[15:08] <bondgirl> ksfree: or fillezilla
[15:08] <bondgirl> it dipens
[15:08] <Mamarok> bondgirl: if you don't know, please don't say
[15:08] <genii> bondgirl: If you are configuring it manually at console, the file to modify is /etc/network/interfaces    if you do: man interfaces   it gives you some simple examples
[15:08] <ksfree> ok dolphin then..
[15:08] <Mamarok> ksfree: dolphin is the default filemanager in Kubuntu 9.04
[15:08] <ksfree> Mamarok: is it installed by default
[15:09] <ksfree> ?
[15:09] <makdaknife> ksfree: alternately you can use konqueror (although it is not default ;-)
[15:09] <ksfree> i guess that yes
[15:09] <bondgirl> Genii : thanks
[15:09] <ksfree> makdaknife: thank you
[15:09] <genii> bondgirl: You're welcome
[15:09] <bondgirl> mamarok: i was only helping!
[15:09] <Mamarok> ksfree: of course it is, open the menu and there it is
[15:10] <Mamarok> bondgirl: np, just stick to what is default in your advice
[15:10] <makdaknife> ksfree: np... konqueror used to be the default filemanager... but I guess that some people felt that its focus should remain on being a browser, while dolphin could concentrate on file management related tasks
[15:10] <bondgirl> Mamarok: also haven't slept much :(
[15:11] <Mamarok> makdaknife: konqueror uses the same background application than dolphin
[15:11] <makdaknife> Mamarok: indeed :-)
[15:11] <Mamarok> and Dolphin is default in KDE 4
[15:11] <Mamarok> so no need to compilcate things
[15:12] <makdaknife> Mamarok: after using konqueror for about 4 years solidly... I found switching to dolphin pretty complicated :-)
[15:13] <makdaknife> Mamarok: but I hear your point... loud and clear
[15:13] <Mamarok> makdaknife: well, we are talking about a new user here, so no need to make it compilcated, just stay in context
[15:15] <bondgirl> pritty name :D dolphin :D
[15:15] <bondgirl> genii: still don't understand :( make a file that looks like that one?
[15:15] <makdaknife> Mamarok: not to argue, but I thought that this was one ofthe beautiful things about linux... there is hardly ever one way to do things... its good to know that if the app you're using doesn't work for you, there are alternatives
[15:16] <makdaknife> Mamarok: its sorta like trying to force everyone to use amarok as their media player, just because its installed by default
[15:16] <bondgirl> makdaknife: :D i do like vlc player :D
[15:17] <makdaknife> bondgirl: I agree... it definitely has its place... although for listening to music generally, amarok rocks like mamarok
[15:17] <genii> bondgirl: There are some examples here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[15:18] <Mamarok> folks, discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic, please
[15:18] <bondgirl> ok :D i do am used to itunes, but for a reason my amarok krashes :(
[15:18] <bondgirl> @ home
[15:18] <bondgirl> genii:  thanks
[15:20] <Idhan> how can I create a video from my desktop?
[15:20] <Idhan> with sound include it
[15:21] <zeltak> hi guys
[15:21] <zeltak> anyone know of a good run the command
[15:21] <zeltak> ./luckybackup -c
[15:21] <zeltak> sorry wrong paste
[15:21] <zeltak> i meant anyone know of a good text replacment prog for kde?
[15:22] <Mamarok> Idhan: there is recordmydesktop
[15:22] <Pici> !screencast
[15:27] <bondgirl> !screencast
[15:27] <bondgirl> !ifconfig
[15:27] <bondgirl> !network
[15:28] <shadeslayer> !msgthebot | bondgirl
[15:29] <Serpardum> a file has an owner and.. soemthing else.  Like root root.  chown jim   changes it to jim root.  How do I change that 2nd entry?  the root?
[15:29] <Serpardum> group is it?
[15:29] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- it's the group that owns the file
[15:29] <bondgirl> shadeslayer: thanks :D
[15:29] <Serpardum> chgrp?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> Dragnslcr: what about chown jim:host
[15:29] <Dragnslcr> If you want to change just the group, you can use chgrp. If you want to change both, chown user:group
[15:31] <shadeslayer> i think its used as : chowm me:myhost
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> No, it's user:group
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> File ownership doesn't have a host
[15:33] <shadeslayer> ok...
[15:33] <makdaknife> you can do chown rowan\: file
[15:33] <makdaknife> that is equiv to chown rowan:rowan file
[15:37] <smellynoser> Does ubuntu have USB power saving lark by default?
[15:39] <login__> oi
[15:40] <Serpardum> How do I find out what my Host Audio Driver is?
[15:40] <smellynoser> Does ubuntu have USB power saving lark by default?
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> smellynoser- you don't need to repeat
[15:41] <suman> hi all.. my mysqld process is taking up 35% cpu even though i am not doing much
[15:41] <suman> is this normal??
[15:43] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- either "lspci | grep -i audio" or "aplay -l" should give you some hardware info
[15:45] <Serpardum> Hmm.. I have nvidia audio, but I n eed to know if it's OSS audio Driver, ALSA audio driver or PulseAudio.  I don't see that in the listing
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Multimedia will at least tell you if it's using pulseaudio
[15:48] <Dragnslcr> The sound system has changed in such weird ways lately that I can't really follow what's used anymore
[15:51] <Mamarok> Serpardum: if you have a basic KDE system, Phonon uses alsa, unless you have pulseaudio isntalled
[15:57] <libervisco> hm..
[15:57] <libervisco> Is there a kubuntu KDE 4.3 svn repository?
[15:57] <zeltak> hi, any one know of a good text expansion/replacement program for kubuntu (not autokey which is broken in jaunty)?
[16:04] <Mamarok> libervisco: yes, but be aware that it's still beta
[16:04] <Mamarok> libervisco: it's in the kubuntu backports PPA, see the topic
[16:05] <declan> hello. Anyone else having xorg using 50% of your cpu and Everything being sloooooow?
[16:06] <peabody> I will kiss on the mouth anyone that can help me get nvidia hdmi audio out working
[16:07] <shadeslayer> declan: whats your processor speed?
[16:08] <declan> its a dual core 4400+ amd 64x2
[16:08] <shadeslayer> declan: 4.4 Ghz?
[16:08] <declan> yeah
[16:09] <shadeslayer> declan: tried restarting?
[16:10] <declan> yeah. a few times. It's a persistant problem
[16:10] <shadeslayer> X i mean :P
[16:10] <shadeslayer> declan: graphics card?
[16:10] <declan> sometimes runs fine and then suddenly freezes or slows and looks like xorg is the culprit
[16:11] <shadeslayer> declan: what does top in a terminal show?
[16:11] <declan> onboard ati think its a 3200
[16:11] <shadeslayer> declan: drivers properly installed?
[16:11] <declan> they should be. Auto install by kubuntu
[16:11] <shadeslayer> declan: actually no..
[16:12] <shadeslayer> !ati | declan
[16:12] <libervisco> Mamarok, I already use backports.. beta2, I mean svn (nightly)
[16:12] <declan> top shows xorg has settled down now but still at 20%
[16:12] <shadeslayer> declan: you probably need the drivers
[16:12] <declan> ah ok. I'll take a look. cheers
[16:12] <Mamarok> declan: that very much sounds like a proprietary driver problem, especially if it's ATI
[16:13] <Mamarok> libervisco: there is nothing never yet AFAIK
[16:13] <Mamarok> libervisco: it will be announced on kubuntu.org if there is something never available usually
[16:13] <libervisco> mainly asking because of this http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/urgen-testing-prior-to-rc-1.html
[16:13] <libervisco> ok
[16:13] <declan> i thought ati were playing nicer than nvidia?
[16:14] <shadeslayer> declan: in your dreams :P
[16:14] <Dragnslcr> libervisco- the release candidate is supposed to be tagged this week and released next week, so there should be new packages available late next week
[16:14] <libervisco> cool :)
[16:14] <declan> thought maybe amd made them nicer or something?
[16:14] <Mamarok> declan: if your card is older than a year, then it's likely not in the driver anymore
[16:15] <declan> its onboard so is probably quite old
[16:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: were the dependencies solved?
[16:15] <Dragnslcr> libervisco- http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[16:15] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what dependencies?
[16:15] <libervisco> declan, AMD supports open source driver development, but progress on that is slow.. and even around half a decade old driver is still "experimental" even though it has 3D support (and doesn't play well with KDE4 at all)..
[16:15] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: oh, you mean KDE 4.2.90?
[16:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah
[16:15] <declan> mamarok: so the proprietry fglrx is best bet?
[16:15] <libervisco> proprietary drivers on the other hand no longer support cards older than X850
[16:16] <libervisco> declan, yes if your card is still supported..
[16:16] <declan> libervisco: ah. thanks. I'll install flgrx and see how that goe
[16:16] <declan> s
[16:16] <Mamarok> declan: no, it's probably worst, and the proprietary is what is installed by default AFAIK
[16:16] <shadeslayer> libervisco: ps : kde-nightly is the best
[16:16] <libervisco> Where do you get that?
[16:16] <Mamarok> !neon
[16:16] <libervisco> oh
[16:16] <Mamarok> libervisco: ^^
[16:17] <libervisco> thanks
[16:18] <declan> I thought the installed version would be the open source one? I'm confused now. What can I do about xorg spoiling my kubuntuparty
[16:18] <Mamarok> libervisco: yaw :)
[16:18] <Mamarok> declan: it's not Xorg, it's ATI
[16:18] <Mamarok> don't blame Free Software for the mess made by proprietary manufacturers
[16:19] <declan> true true
[16:19] <declan> so do I wait for a new driver?
[16:20] <libervisco> if by any chance you have money to spare and your card is old enough to justify, probably best thing is to buy an nvidia card
[16:20] <Mamarok> declan: use the free driver, maybe it solves your problem
[16:20] <doudou> hey les gens
[16:20] <libervisco> I'd doubt that.. free drivers are worse..
[16:20] <libervisco> in my experience
[16:20] <declan> according to the guide it has no 3d support!
[16:21] <doudou> Is there any french ?
[16:21] <Mamarok> libervisco: not in mine
[16:21] <Mamarok> !fr | doudou
[16:21] <libervisco> Mamarok, RadeonHD?
[16:21] <libervisco> or just radeon (for older cards)?
[16:21] <Mamarok> libervisco: depends on the model
[16:21] <doudou> Where the fuck can I find a french channel ?
[16:22] <Mamarok> libervisco: if you search apt-cache with your card model, you should find it
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !fr | doudou
[16:22] <genii> doudou: /join #ubuntu-fr     and please watch your language, keep the channel family-friendly
[16:22] <doudou> !fr | drif
[16:22] <libervisco> Mamarok, no I meant you.. :P
[16:22] <doudou> Héhé
[16:22] <libervisco> I bought an nvidia this weekend :P
[16:22] <doudou> !fr | Szadek
[16:23] <BluesKaj> ok doudou , stop
[16:23] <BluesKaj> good
[16:23] <Mamarok> he is gone
[16:23] <declan> thing is that a lot of the time it is ok; seems to be ok now. But randomly (well seems random to me) it goes mad and hits 50% of my cpu and loads of ram
[16:27] <Mamarok> declan: then you are luckier than I am, my card is not supported anymore :(
[16:27] <declan> Ah. Sorry man. That is not a good situation for linux
[16:28] <Mamarok> declan: well, we can do nothing about it, but hope that the free driver gets better
[16:28] <declan> definately!
[16:28]  * Mamarok considers a donation to speed that up
[16:33] <peabody> NOW I get to kiss MYSELF on the mouth
[16:37] <yoga> How come my task panel is not transparent? Tt just have a black back ground.
[16:37] <kaddi> hi, how can I add some folder to my music collection in amarok? Nothing happens when I trag the folder onto collection
[16:38] <kaddi> *drag even
[16:39] <makdaknife> yoga: its possible that compositing has been disabled
[16:39] <yoga> kaddi: you need to "rescan", don't you?  Or restart.
[16:39] <beatzz> Hello my friend is having a problem with his nVidia X server settings tool
[16:39] <beatzz> it wont allow him to save his settings to the xorg.conf file
[16:39] <beatzz> so he has to reset his screen resolution every time he reboots
[16:40] <kaddi> yoga: but how do I tell it where to scan=
[16:40] <kaddi> ?
[16:40] <beatzz> gives him an error when he attempts to "Save to X Configuration File"
[16:41] <kaddi> yoga: a found it, thanks... didn't know you had to do this via configure... :/
[16:43] <yoga> kaddi: You may also missed the configuration during the first time start.
[16:44] <beatzz> the error message is as follows "Cannot create new xorg.conf file '/etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup'"
[16:44] <kaddi> yoga: yeah that too.. but I wanted to add a folder to the collections. And it'll let you happily drag and drop a selected folder "Files" to "Collection" without actually doing anything. Which is what was confusing me. I thought this was yet another bug in amarok
[17:04]  * libervisco is in neon..
[17:06] <Mamarok> libervisco: and? Like it?
[17:06] <libervisco> yeah, pretty good :)
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: 4.3 ?
[17:06] <libervisco> so far there are no artifacts
[17:06] <shadeslayer> libervisco: artifacts?
[17:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: why do you ask me? I don't use Neon :)
[17:07] <libervisco> this stuff http://memenode.com/misc/KDE4.3-artifacts/
[17:08] <libervisco> but it's still sluggish on lists etc..
[17:09] <libervisco> (like all releases from 4.0 to this)
[17:09] <Mamarok> sluggish on what lists?
[17:09] <libervisco> except a little less
[17:10] <shadeslayer> got disconnected there.....
[17:10] <libervisco> Mamarok, resizing, scrolling etc. of sidebars in kate, amarok etc. when they list a bunch of stuff, sluggish scrolling in quassel (even delay with sending a message for a couple of seconds), and generally sluggish resizing when desktop effects are enabled (on nvidia 9600GT)
[17:11] <Mamarok> well, I don't have many DE enabled
[17:12] <libervisco> it happens with just default settings
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: neon loads faster than 4.2.4 here :)
[17:13] <Dragnslcr> libervisco- Quassel is just plain slow in general. I recommend grabbing the Konversation 1.2 packages from the PPA
[17:13] <shadeslayer> irssi for me
[17:14] <shadeslayer> no gui which can lag :P
[17:15] <libervisco> neon lacks qtcurve..
[17:15] <shadeslayer> libervisco: yeah....
[17:15] <shadeslayer> i had to compile half the things from a svn
[17:16]  * shadeslayer is going OT,someone stop him!!!
[17:17] <achillion> Hey guys. I need some help with a great annoyance
[17:18] <achillion> I was using xubuntu up until now and I just installed KDE (apt-get install kubuntu-desktop). During the first boot everything was fine but now for some reason random programs just hang
[17:19] <achillion> this is mostly programs that belong to KDE like Konsole or settings menus
[17:22] <achillion> exit
[17:22] <Mamarok> so much for patience...
[17:22] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[17:24] <phoenixz> Im using KDE4.3. Every now and then, for some dumb reason (I connect the power cord), KDE tells me that the screen rendering became too slow and that because of that, compositing was disaabled.. How can I disable this auto-compositing-disabling? Its really anoying since this only happens when there is ntohing wrong..
[17:24] <joshua__> I have to say I have been using Kubuntu for about 4 hours now, and KDE is growing on me...
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: after a month kde 4.3 on kubuntu 9.04 works :)
[17:30] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: nice :)
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i got 2 dependency errors...had to use -f
[17:30] <beatzz> What would cause someone to have to reset their screen resolution every time they loged in????
[17:30] <beatzz> xorg.conf issues? or something else
[17:30] <sotomayor> hello people...this is my first time here can someone tell me what this chat is about?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: okular and kdepim..
[17:31] <beatzz> kubuntu?
[17:31] <sotomayor> so this is a a kubutu chat ?
[17:31] <beatzz> yea sorta
[17:31] <Mamarok> sotomayor: read the topic, please
[17:32] <Mamarok> beatzz: no, it's a support channel, not a chat, discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <sotomayor> ok at the top of the page it says kubuntu spport....ok sorry....so can I get information about my ubuntu software here?
[17:32] <Mamarok> beatzz: what do you mean, reset?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i guess the theme is not added to the ppa?
[17:32] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what theme?
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: air
[17:33] <Mamarok> sotomayor: you can ask support questions here for Kubuntu, yes
[17:33] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: has only just been released by KDE, patience...
[17:33] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: it never was in beta 2
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i was just confirming :)
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: itll be in the PPA when RC 1 is out probably
[17:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: read planetkde,org, so you know and don't have to ask :)
[17:34] <sotomayor> ok thanks.....my first time here just stumble up on irc and been trying to access this irc chat for a few days
[17:34] <n8w> hey
[17:34] <n8w> ive got toaly stupid question...where do i find all pplication ive manually installed?
[17:35] <n8w> i cant find them anywhere....
[17:35] <sotomayor> what is strongswans?
[17:36] <libervisco> hmm xrender makes resizing some windows faster (not bloody amarok though..)
[17:36] <Mamarok> n8w: what is the name of the application?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i have this awesome animation when all the windows go transperent...i dont know how im doint it!
[17:36] <shadeslayer> *doing
[17:36] <Mamarok> sotomayor: I don't know, where do you see that?
[17:37] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: discussion -> ot, please
[17:37] <tyler_d> I am looking to change the clearish blue color of the panel as I am unable to see the copying/moving of files(the details) displayed below?
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok..
[17:37] <sotomayor> i see that when I tried to install ubuntu restricted formats to play and burn dvd's, and  cd's
[17:37] <tyler_d> I searched and came up dry, and it was indicated that this was not configurable.... is this still the case?
[17:37] <joshua__> are there any tutorials for kubuntu?
[17:38] <tyler_d> joshua__: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:38] <n8w> Mamarok: hibernate2 i think...but thats not the point, i wanna know where i can find all application i manually install...i wanna know the folder name(ie in win:program files is the def folder)
[17:38] <Mamarok> !info strongswan
[17:38] <Mamarok> sotomayor: ^^ see above
[17:38] <joshua__> nothing in preticular, just wondering if there is like an over view
[17:39] <Mamarok> n8w: that depends on the prefix given when you install it
[17:39] <Mamarok> n8w: you can use locate applicationname to see where it is, but to start it, you don't need to know that
[17:39] <Mamarok> n8w: and if you want to unistall it, neither
[17:39] <sotomayor> i'm so lost I think I need a one on one with a professional to help me figure this ubuntu software out....i'm so lost
[17:40] <yoga> The Amarok handbook is missing, I cannot find it in the KPackageKit.
[17:40] <Mamarok> joshua__: yes, check kubuntu.org, there are links
[17:40] <Mamarok> yoga: because there is non yet, we didn't have time to write it
[17:41] <Mamarok> yoga: what do you need help with?
[17:41] <makdaknife> sotomayor: you can pm me if you want to chat one-on-one
[17:41] <Mamarok> n8w: please keep support in this channel, do not query me
[17:41] <Mamarok> n8w: to start an application, you can use either the menu or krunner
[17:41] <sotomayor> ok how do i pm you on this chat room not real familiar with the way things work on irc or ubuntu
[17:42] <n8w> Mamarok: sry, i just didnt want to bother other with my stupid questions:)
[17:42] <Mamarok> krunner is started with Alt+F2, then type the application name
[17:42] <n8w> *others
[17:42] <Mamarok> n8w: there are no stupid questions if it's in the topic of the channel :)
[17:42] <Mamarok> and we have all been beginners at some time
[17:42] <yoga> Mamarok: I have problem subscribing podcast.
[17:43] <Mamarok> makdaknife: do not propose PM support, channel guidelines, please!
[17:43] <sotomayor> ok makdaknife I think i pm you but waiting on you to come in room
[17:43] <n8w> Mamarok: ye thx m8, well im quite familiar with the krunner...but not all applications show up in there
[17:44] <Mamarok> sotomayor: it's against the channel rules to propose PM support, just for your information
[17:44] <Mamarok> n8w: they should though
[17:45] <beatzz> Mamarok: It changes back to his default resolution every time he restarts
[17:45] <makdaknife> Mamarok: sorry... just trying to help... and he wanted 1-on-1 and you're pretty militant about channel rules and I'm not
[17:45] <beatzz> Mamarok: and he has to change it back to his setting of 1440x900
[17:46] <Mamarok> makdaknife: well, if you do support here you should respect the rules
[17:46] <Mamarok> yoga: which vrsion of Amarok do you have?
[17:46] <beatzz> Mamarok: we're trying to get it so that when he boots up, its at 1440x900
[17:46] <Mamarok> beatzz: he can overrun the default settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:47] <beatzz> Mamarok: we actualy went there, I was guideing him over the phone
[17:47] <yoga> Mamarok: Amarok Version 2.0.2 using KDE 4.2.2
[17:47] <beatzz> Mamarok: so I dident get to see his xorg.conf first hand
[17:47] <n8w> Mamarok: ive isntalled suspend2,but nothin rly comes up shile using krunner
[17:48] <Mamarok> beatzz: well, I am not fail proof on Xorg settings to be honest, didn't touch that in ages
[17:48] <yoga> Can you try to subscribe to this podcast http://www.hkreporter.com/myradio/channel_podcast.php?channelid=181
[17:48] <Mamarok> beatzz: but the settings in KDE systemsettings -> Display do not stay at all?
[17:48] <Mamarok> n8w: well, I don't even know what app this is, sorry, does it have a readme file that came with it?
[17:49] <beatzz> Mamarok: I guess not, Im gana look at his system tonight, maby post it on LinuxQuestions.org if i cant figure it out
[17:49] <Mamarok> yoga: unfortunately, 2.0.2 is already quite old, you should update your version, 2.1 has been released quite some time ago
[17:49] <beatzz> Mamarok: it proly is xorg, that was my guess, but he dident find anything about resolutions in his xorg.conf file when I was on the phone w/ him
[17:49] <Mamarok> beatzz: you should eventuella have a look at kubuntuforums.net
[17:50] <beatzz> informative?
[17:50] <Mamarok> beatzz: well, because the default settings are not in xorg.conf anymore, but one can add some to override the default ones
[17:50] <yoga> Ok, I'll try that.
[17:51] <Mamarok> beatzz: the default is detected on installation, then one can change settings in the systemsettings, and if this is not enough, add the resolution to xorg.conf
[17:52] <relevant> hi all - i've got a problem. i can connect to this irc chat and to all sites with konqueror but no connection with firefox...does anyone know this problem?
[17:52] <libervisco> Is it normal for nvidia core temperature to be constantly around 49 or 50 C?
[17:52] <beatzz> Mamarok: how do you "add the resolution to xorg.conf"
[17:53] <beatzz> Mamarok: obviously by editing it in, but where do u find the code to insert?
[17:53] <Mamarok> beatzz: well, that's something I haven't doen in ages, let me look at old config files I have in the archives, moment
[17:53] <Mamarok> done*
[17:56] <Mamarok> beatzz: here is an example of a very old configuration file of mine, you will have to change the settings accordingly:
[17:56] <Mamarok> beatzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/203006/
[18:00] <beatzz> Mamarok: so the Virtual descriptor and the Modes descriptor dont have to be the same value?
[18:00] <beatzz> Mamarok: ex: Virtual 640 480  Mode "640x480@50"
[18:01] <beatzz> i will google some
[18:01] <Mamarok> beatzz: that was just an example I found on my system, I guess it should, yes
[18:06] <libervisco> no sound in youtube :S
[18:09] <Mamarok> libervisco: blame flash
[18:09] <libervisco> actually no sound at all right now..
[18:10] <libervisco> and there was no sound in vlc on beta2, but was in amarok..
[18:10] <Mamarok> libervisco: well, you are in Neon, aren't you?
[18:10] <libervisco> yeah.. but I was just listening to music in amarok, in *neon*, then relogged and it doesn't work anymore
[18:11] <Mamarok> and Neon uses KDE trunk AND Amarok trunk, so...
[18:11] <libervisco> same also happened in 4.3
[18:11] <libervisco> beta2
[18:11] <Mamarok> libervisco: so in normal Kubuntu (not Neon) you have sound problems?
[18:11] <Mamarok> but not in Neon?
[18:11] <libervisco> in both
[18:11] <Mamarok> ouch, not good :(
[18:11] <Mamarok> libervisco: make sure you use the xine backend in phonon and avoid pulseaudio
[18:12] <ncfi1013_> does anybody know how to disable the onboard graphics card for an emachine from 2006?
[18:12] <libervisco> yeah xine is used and "HDA Intel" is preferred over pulseaudio everywhere
[18:12] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: in the bios I think, you want to use another card?
[18:12] <libervisco> in multimedia settings
[18:13] <Mamarok> libervisco: and you don't have pulseaudio installed?
[18:13] <ncfi1013_> mamarock already used bios and yes i want to use another card
[18:13] <libervisco> Mamarok, I do
[18:13] <ncfi1013_> dont c it n bios
[18:13] <libervisco> hm..
[18:14] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: that of course depends on the age of your BIOS too I think
[18:14] <beatzz> Mamarok:
[18:14] <beatzz> Section "Device"
[18:14] <beatzz> Option "UseEDID" "False" <[18:14] <beatzz> Option "PanelSize" "1200x800"
[18:14] <FloodBotK1> beatzz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <Mamarok> wether it allows you to switch the card from on board to discrete
[18:14] <Mamarok> !past | beatzz
[18:14] <ncfi1013_> mamarock how do i determine that
[18:14] <beatzz> :x sorry
[18:14] <Mamarok> !paste | beatzz
[18:15] <libervisco> removed now.. gonna relogin..
[18:15] <Mamarok> libervisco: wait
[18:15] <ncfi1013_> ...the age of my bios
[18:15] <beatzz> Mamarok: well anywaz, I found out how to fix that problem
[18:15] <Mamarok> libervisco: you need to remove ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc too
[18:15] <Mamarok> beatzz: nice :)
[18:16] <libervisco> oh
[18:16] <beatzz> Mamarok: It seems if, your resolutions are strangly being reset every time the system starts up
[18:16] <beatzz> Mamarok: you simple add those 2 lines into the Section "Device"
[18:16] <beatzz> and it forces xorg to start at whatever PanelSize you set
[18:16] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: the year of your BIOS is shown when you start the computer and switch to the BOIS
[18:17] <libervisco> ok brb
[18:17] <beatzz> Just sharing the <3
[18:17] <beatzz> linux > *
[18:17] <Mamarok> bios*, sry
[18:17] <ncfi1013_> mamarock so it might not b 2006 mite b older?
[18:17] <Mamarok> beatzz: great, so that's enough, no need to change other settings?
[18:18] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: I don't know, you only can find that out, you need to switch to bios on startup, can't tell you
[18:18] <beatzz> Mamarok: I guess, aparently the UseEDID option = flase will tell xorg to NOT use its default detected settings
[18:19] <beatzz> Mamarok: the the PanelSize is the next thing xorg will look for to use
[18:19] <Mamarok> great, thanks for the info, will write that down here
[18:19] <beatzz> o_O ?
[18:19] <Mamarok> beatzz: where did you find it?
[18:19] <beatzz> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=769457#post769457
[18:20] <beatzz> sory, wronge URL
[18:20] <beatzz> http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?s=b0fe575a66163333c7d793cfcb662712&showtopic=18277&pid=222627&st=0&#entry222627
[18:21] <beatzz> is it normal to become obsesed with linux...... o_O
[18:23] <Mamarok> beatzz: well, obsessed is not the right word, use "fascinated" instead :)
[18:23] <Mamarok> beatzz: that's what happened to me 10 years ago :)
[18:25] <beatzz> are you running Kubuntu 9.04?
[18:26] <beatzz> My Amarok 2 dosent work...at all..
[18:27] <Mamarok> beatzz: because you have an old version, unfortunately Kubuntu 9.04 ships with 2.0.2,, which is already quite old
[18:27] <Mamarok> there is a newer version in the jaunty-backports
[18:27] <beatzz> ?
[18:27] <beatzz> i mainly use slack
[18:28] <beatzz> so im not shure what ur talkin about
[18:29] <ncfi1013> mamarock?
[18:33] <ncfi1013> anyway mamarock said to look for the age of my bios in the bios. how do i look for it in the konsole if i can?
[18:35] <beatzz> Mamarok: What do I do with this? deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:35] <beatzz> im here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
[18:35] <Mamarok> beatzz: well, it moved to jaunty-backports
[18:35] <beatzz> Mamarok: how do I get to that?
[18:36] <Mamarok> beatzz: what package manager do you use?
[18:36] <beatzz> Mamarok: when you say jaunty-backports im clueless
[18:36] <beatzz> Mamarok: apt-get
[18:36] <vbgunz> my notification icon in the system tray is just sitting there unresponsive. how can I kill it?
[18:36] <beatzz> Mamarok: on this pc
[18:37] <Dragnslcr> beatzz- if you're just using apt-get, you'd have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[18:37] <Mamarok> beatzz: ok, then you need to add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[18:37] <Mamarok> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports restricted main multiverse universe
[18:38] <Dragnslcr> I kinda wish the Updates tab in KPackageKit's source editor showed the repository name for each checkbox
[18:38] <beatzz> Mamarok: nice thats what i was thinkin of, just dident know where it  was
[18:38] <Dragnslcr> I can't remember if backports is "Pre-released" or "Unsupported"
[18:39] <Dragnslcr> Though I guess "Pre-released" would be proposed, huh
[18:39] <Mamarok> Dragnslcr: no security updates
[18:39] <Mamarok> ok, my wok dish just arrived :)
[18:39] <Dragnslcr> Really? "Security updates" is backports?
[18:39] <Dragnslcr> Food, or an actual wok?
[18:41] <beatzz> ok and then I just apt-get update ?
[18:41] <libervisco> Mamarok, it works now, thanks :)
[18:42] <ryan_> HOW DO I CLOSE A PROCESS USING A TASK MANAGER?
[18:42] <Dragnslcr> Step 1: Press the Caps Lock key
[18:42] <beatzz> Ctrl+Esc
[18:42] <ryan_> sorry about that
[18:42] <ryan_> and ty
[18:42] <beatzz> np
[18:50] <andemil> hoi
[18:50] <andemil> I have this issue with amarok
[18:51] <andemil> and I was told I could get some help here
[18:51] <andemil> I filed a bug report at kde-bugs:
[18:51] <andemil> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197540
[18:51] <andemil> I am trying to run amarok 2.1
[18:51] <andemil> but it crashed everytime I start it
[18:52] <andemil> can anyone give me a good advice?
[18:52] <beatzz> Im actualy trying to get 2.1 as we speak
[18:52] <beatzz> not having any luck myself
[18:53] <yoga> when I run sudo apt-get update I get this: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[18:54] <beatzz> holy cow
[18:54] <beatzz> I just got that exact same error yoga
[18:54] <beatzz> with what im doin
[18:54] <Pici> !ppagpg
[18:55] <andemil> you'll find a lot of info on how to install keys on the web
[18:57] <beatzz> im just gana install it from source
[18:57] <andemil> I tried to compile several sources but failed miserably :(
[18:58] <andemil> There was always some error during compilation
[18:58] <shadeslayer> andemil: i hope you had the required libraries to compile whatever it was that you were compiling
[18:58] <andemil> yes I did
[18:58] <andemil> cmake did what it should
[18:59] <andemil> but make would not finish....
[18:59] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[18:59] <andemil> there is some good documentation about what libs should be installed to compile Amarok
[18:59] <shadeslayer> !compile | andemil
[19:00] <andemil> well, the prebuilt packages won't work either :(
[19:00] <andemil> thats what I am here for in fact
[19:00] <shadeslayer> andemil: what are you trying to install?
[19:00] <andemil> as I mentioned: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197540
[19:00] <andemil> amarok 2.1
[19:01] <Serpardum> hwo do I find out my version of kubuntu?
[19:01] <andemil> any kde prog seems to have a "about kde" in the help menue
[19:01] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- lsb_release -a
[19:03] <andemil> did I mention that amarok 2.0 sucks?
[19:03] <andemil> darn buggy prog....
[19:04] <shadeslayer> andemil: are you the same guy who posted this bug?
[19:04] <andemil> yep indeed I am
[19:05] <shadeslayer> andemil: the bug report was changed to resolved...so isnt your problem solved?
[19:05] <andemil> shadeslayer: the very same ;)
[19:05] <andemil> shadeslayer: it says: resolved downstream
[19:05] <andemil> which means that its not their problem
[19:05] <andemil> but some problem in kubuntu
[19:05] <andemil> as it seems the phonon installation is buggy somehow
[19:06] <andemil> but dont ask me how....
[19:06] <shadeslayer> andemil: hmm..no idea there...try reinstalling phonon... 2.1 worked here...
[19:06] <andemil> i tried reinstalling it.. nothing
[19:09] <shadeslayer> andemil: im lost...
[19:09] <andemil> shadeslayer: me too :)
[19:10] <andemil> darn... it MUST be possible to install that prog somehow
[19:10] <shadeslayer> andemil: if you need it *so* badly you can give amarok-neon a spin
[19:10] <shadeslayer> maybe itll work
[19:10] <andemil> shadeslayer: I tried that too
[19:11] <andemil> no luck....
[19:11] <shadeslayer> \o/
[19:11]  * shadeslayer is out of options..
[19:13] <beatzz> Mamarok: Okay I have upgraded to Amarok 2.1.1 and still it wont play my music ??
[19:13] <beatzz> Mamarok: Kaffine plays them just fine btw
[19:14] <beatzz> it says its playing, but has no progress bar or time on any of the songs, they all show as 0:00
[19:14] <andemil> beatzz: where did you get amarok 2.1.1?
[19:14] <beatzz> sudo apt-get install amarok
[19:14] <shadeslayer> beatzz: did you install the codecs amarok suggests
[19:15] <shadeslayer> andemil: heheh
[19:15] <beatzz> nothing was sujested to me, but hmm
[19:15] <beatzz> where can i find those at?
[19:15] <andemil> beatzz: what repos are you using?
[19:15] <Serpardum> hwo do I add a user (me) to a group in kubuntu?
[19:15] <beatzz> repos???
[19:15] <shadeslayer> Serpardum: adduser username
[19:15] <andemil> beatzz: I use jaunty and it only has 2.0
[19:16] <beatzz> ahh
[19:16] <shadeslayer> andemil: see kubuntu.org
[19:16] <beatzz> I will show u the 2 I added
[19:16] <Serpardum> I already have a user jim.
[19:17] <andemil> I only know the ppa repos which feature 2.1
[19:17] <shadeslayer> Serpardum: adduser jim2
[19:17] <andemil> but where do i get 2.1.1?
[19:17] <Serpardum> I want to add that user jim to the group vboxuser
[19:17] <shadeslayer> Serpardum: adduser jim vboxuser
[19:17] <beatzz> andemil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/203058/
[19:17] <Serpardum> thx,did it
[19:17] <magres> eh... might I bother you folks for a cup of sugar?  (and my sugar i mean advice)
[19:18] <magres> by* sugar i mean advice
[19:18] <yoga> Where is PPA's overview page for Amarok backport?
[19:18] <andemil> beatzz: thanx I'll try if I can use that somehow
[19:18] <andemil> although I know the ppa adress
[19:19] <andemil> yoga: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
[19:20] <magres> so I'm a newby at Linux.  I'm not ENTIRELY retarded (I think), but I'm slightly lost when it comes to adding progs to Linux.  I'm trying to get emacs set up for some stuff for work, and I ran configure and then invoked make, but when I try to run the emacs executable I'm getting an error of "cannot open termcap databse file"
[19:20] <magres> any thoughts?
[19:21] <kaddi> magres: Do you need to compile the stuff yourself? You get a lot of precompiled programs from the repositories.
[19:21] <yoga> magres: What don't you sudo apt-get install emacs ?
[19:22] <magres> sudo apt?
[19:22] <magres> also, yes I need to be able to compile
[19:22] <shadeslayer> !emacs
[19:22] <magres> I have some viscous hydrodynamics code I have to edit/run
[19:22] <magres> guwha?
[19:22] <yoga> magres: How did you get the emacs source tree?
[19:23] <magres> google, basically
[19:23] <magres> unpacked it into a random folder and started trying to piece my way through the instructions
[19:23] <magres> I'm still getting used to the console, so it's been interesting lol
[19:23] <yoga> magres: May I ask, why do you want to compile emacs source?
[19:24] <magres> so I can use it?  Fucked if I know, lol
[19:24] <magres> Essentially its what the rigs at work are running is the only reason
[19:24] <Being_Tsukasa> anyone able to help me get the lastfm app scrobbling for me with either amorak or VLC?
[19:25] <magres> The only experience I have with Linux before this was running RHEL, and everything then was in a class on rigs that had everything already set up
[19:25] <yoga> magres: ok, you don't have to compile, just install it : (open a terminal, type in "sudo apt-get install emacs")
[19:25] <kaddi> magres: you can simply download the precompiled prgoram and run it. this won't keep you from compiling something else at a later time
[19:25] <magres> ah
[19:25] <kaddi> yoga was quicker :D
[19:26] <yoga> magres: What distribution of Linux are you using?
[19:26] <magres> kubuntu 9.04
[19:27] <yoga> magres: good, so you can just "sudo apt-get install emacs", then start emacs by type emacs on the terminal.
[19:28] <magres> yoga, I am humbled.  In one line you managed to do all of what I've been trying to do for like 3 hours
[19:28] <magres> would you like anything?  Candy, Pizza, oral pleasuring?
[19:28] <magres> lol
[19:28] <yoga> magres: You just found out what power that  Debian give you!
[19:29] <magres> perhaps, if I knew what Debian was lol
[19:29] <magres> maybe I should go look that up
[19:29] <magres> GOOGLE POWERS, TO MY AID!
[19:30] <magres> oh right
[19:30] <kubunt1> more like the power of linux and package managers, it's that simple with many other distros :)
[19:30] <magres> and I'm not on Debian anyways, I'm on Ubuntu
[19:30] <magres> lol
[19:30] <kubunt1> ..which is based on debian
[19:30] <Being_Tsukasa> anyone know about the lastfm app and kubuntu?
[19:30] <magres> o
[19:30] <magres> <_<
[19:30] <yoga> magres: In one sentence, Debian is the father of Ubuntu which is the sister of Kubuntu.
[19:30] <kubunt1> last.fm app and amarok?
[19:31] <kubunt1> amarok has a few plugins for last.fm
[19:31] <magres> heh
[19:31] <kubunt1> and kde is the granddaddy
[19:31] <Being_Tsukasa> how do i get the lastfm plugins for amarok?
[19:31] <kubunt1> poppa smurf iow
[19:31] <magres> yeah I'm not really a fan of Gnome, I've used it before and I find KDE to be alot more intuitive
[19:31] <kubunt1> Being_Tsukasa: i'm not sure, #amarok is helpful though
[19:32] <Being_Tsukasa> kde has more bugs than gnome ive heard, but i still prefer it
[19:32] <magres> one thing I love on KDE (no idea if gnome has it or not) is widgets
[19:32] <magres> widgets are sexy
[19:32] <kubunt1> kde4 is quite stable now, it had a few quirks in the beginning because it's doing something entirely new and beyond gnome
[19:33] <kubunt1> i.e.: nepomuk, desktop widgets, and much more
[19:33] <magres> nepomuk?
[19:33] <magres> sounds intriguing
[19:33] <magres> (if nothing, I'm enthusiastic about my exploration into a new OS that I know nothing about)
[19:34] <kubunt1> just search for 'kde features' and you'll find out more then you can remember in one sitting
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Being_Tsukasa: dont think so.... i have neon and 4.3 beta 2....no serious crash till now
[19:37] <kubunt1> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Feature_Plan should help
[19:38] <kubunt1> ^ gives an idea of the scope of kde
[19:38] <kubunt1> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2009/Ideas
[19:39] <kubunt1> that also will give you an idea of where kde is heading
[19:40] <kubunt1> magres ^
[19:44] <takoski> hi i'm with ubuntu now i want to format a partition on aonther HD how can i do it?
[19:46] <togetic> takoski: qtparted or gparted
[19:46] <togetic> apt-get install qtparted
[19:46] <togetic> and do it to it
[19:46] <Mamarok> takoski: Gnome or KDE?
[19:46] <takoski> Thanks
[19:47] <takoski> GOme
[19:47] <takoski> GNOME
[19:47] <togetic> then you'll want gparted
[19:47] <magres> so what are sudo commands, and whats apt-get?  They seem rather powerful
[19:47] <togetic> google gparted format partition
[19:47] <Mamarok> takoski: then it's gparted, you are in the Kubuntu channel here :)
[19:47] <togetic> magres: "man sudo"
[19:47] <togetic> and man apt-get
[19:47] <magres> gah
[19:47] <magres> I need to remember these things
[19:47] <magres> you know, Linux actually has manuals of wtf it does
[19:47] <togetic> yup
[19:47] <magres> I'm used to the Windows' PoS help files
[19:47] <togetic> thus 'rtfms'
[19:48] <Mamarok> magres: sudo is the way to get sudo rights if you are either the first installer or in the administrator group
[19:48] <commander__> hey i got GNOME desktop but it won't connect wirelessly
[19:48] <togetic> su = super user
[19:48] <magres> oooh I get it, Super User Do
[19:48] <togetic> aka, root
[19:48] <commander__> am i doing something wrong?
[19:48] <magres> right
[19:48] <takoski> the command is Sudo apt-get install qtparted?
[19:48] <Mamarok> commander__: ask in #ubuntu, we do KDE here :)
[19:48] <magres> no, you want gparted since you're on gnome
[19:48] <togetic> takoski: you'll want to get gparted
[19:48] <togetic> since you are using gnome
[19:48] <takoski> i want to format no partition!
[19:49] <magres> lol engrish
[19:49] <takoski> XD
[19:49] <takoski> :D
[19:49] <magres> :P
[19:49] <magres> no the thing is that you're in a channel for the KDE packaging of the Ubuntu core, when you're using the Gnome package
[19:49] <genii> takoski: Do you know the /dev name of the hd you want to format?
[19:49] <takoski> mhhhh yeah
[19:49] <togetic> and i'm out of this channel for a little while...
[19:49] <magres> like people here are going to give you advice that applies to KDE and not Gnome
[19:50] <magres> hence the whole qtparted vs gparted thing
[19:50] <Mamarok> magres: I think he got that by now :)
[19:50] <magres> just makin sure :D
[19:50] <Being_Tsukasa> how do i install a library from the terminal?
[19:51] <magres> I tend to, out of no personal disrespect for anyone, assume that anything needs to be explained pretty explicitly.  People sometimes roll 1's on their intel checks
[19:52] <takoski> Esecuzione del processo figlio "qtparted-root" fallita (Nessun file o directory)
[19:52] <magres> er
[19:53] <genii> takoski: If the partition type is already Linux (type 83 hex) you can just do:  sudo mke2fs /dev/sdX#    where X is the drive letter and # is the partition number
[19:54] <genii> takoski: sudo fdisk -l                 will show you the partiton types for all your drives
[19:54] <takoski> thanks
[19:56] <magres> in other news:  the multiple desktops of KDE is amazing
[19:56] <Dragnslcr> magres- by the way, qtparted isn't maintained anymore. The new KDE frontend for parted is partitionmanager
[19:57] <magres> any chance it can shrink partitions w/o destroying them?
[19:58] <n8w> hey,im tryin to get my ntb to suspend to hdd,but it hangs up while wakin up...it says waking up,please wait n thats it,it never wake up
[20:00] <n8w> anyone?
[20:02] <magres> anyone know how to make emacs stop !@#$ing beeping whenever I scroll up while I'm at the top of my program
[20:02] <magres> I tend to overscroll and it's REALLY annoying
[20:02] <magres> lol
[20:03] <Mamarok> magres: disable the system beep in the system settings
[20:05] <Mamarok> magres: system settings -> Notifications -> Tab "player settings" and option "no audio output"
[20:05] <magres> danke!
[20:05] <n8w> hey,im tryin to get my ntb to suspend to hdd,but it hangs up while wakin up...it says waking up,please wait n thats it,it never wake up
[20:06] <magres> crap, it's still beeping
[20:06] <magres> just double checked the setting and its still on no audio output
[20:07] <magres> found a work around or sommat
[20:07] <magres> told it to use system bell instead of system notification
[20:07] <magres> and dropped the volume % to 0
[20:07] <magres> sweet, blessed silence
[20:08] <Mamarok> magres: well, that is just a workaround, the other option remooves the beeps but leaves you the music
[20:08] <magres> the music?
[20:08] <magres> like the startup/shutdown music?
[20:09] <Mamarok> magres: yes, when you reduce the volume you can't hear anything, and what, if you want to listen to music while you are using emacs?
[20:09] <magres> if I set the system bell volume to 0 it kills all my noise?
[20:09] <magres> >_<
[20:10] <magres> like my regular volume is still in the 30s
[20:10] <luciano> hola
[20:10] <Mamarok> magres: well, as I said, that's not shutting down the beeps, try the methode I told you above
[20:10] <magres> it kept beeping when i did that
[20:11] <magres> that's why i went looking for an alternate solution =/
[20:13] <magres> okay I was flat out wrong, I'm not using system bell w/ 0 volume
[20:13] <magres> I guess my settings change took some time to set in or something <_<
[20:14] <magres> dunno, it works and I still have the good noises coming out of my laptop
[20:14] <magres> I'll leave it as it is, lol
[20:23] <Captain_Haddock> !acroread
[20:23] <Captain_Haddock> !acrobat
[20:23] <Captain_Haddock> !pdf
[20:23] <Pici> !pdf
[20:23] <Captain_Haddock> cheers :)
[20:24] <Pici> !acrobat is <alias> pdf
[20:24] <Captain_Haddock> I'm pretty sure that medibuntu used to have it in its repository... can't find it anymore though :|
[20:24] <Captain_Haddock> http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/acroread.html seems to indicate that it's only available for amd64?
[20:25] <kaddi_> Captain_Haddock: I think it's in the partner rep from canonical
[20:25] <kaddi_>   apt-cache policy acroread returns:      500 http://archive.canonical.com jaunty/partner Packages for me
[20:25] <Captain_Haddock> ah! let me have a look-see
[20:25] <Captain_Haddock> thanks kaddi_
[20:26] <kaddi> your welcome :)
[20:27]  * Captain_Haddock didn't have partner enabled for some reason :/
[20:42] <togetic> http://dpaste.com/59304/
[20:42] <togetic> i'm needing help
[20:42] <togetic> i'm trying to remove kdm
[20:42] <togetic> i'm going to install xubuntu-desktop and see if the problem is just kdm
[20:54] <kaddi> !purekde
[20:54] <kaddi> !puregnome
[20:59] <yoga> I just found the PPA overview page for Kbuntu backport. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[21:20] <libervisco> Can anyone connect to SSH via dolphin in Neon's kde-nightly?
[21:20] <libervisco> it can't for me.. but I am suspecting a missing component in Neon repositories rather than a KDE bug..
[21:22] <Lordveda> I have ubuntu 9.04 with KDE 4.2 installed on a Fujitsu Siemens Li Amilo 1705
[21:22] <Lordveda> openchrome is my graphics driver
[21:24] <Lordveda> on KDE I have Kalendar portion in Kontact not showing any of the calendars. What possibly could be wrong?
[21:24] <amik> how do I find the diffs/changelog between an original package (e.g. apache tomcat) and the one supplied in the repos?
[21:41] <amik> anyone have a clue?
[21:47] <mackk431> hi my update manager blocks 4 updates is there a way to install them manually something like sudo aptitude install dist-upgrade for instance
[21:47] <bogdanbiv> mackk431: I think you should check for something like a -f switch (force install)
[21:48] <bogdanbiv> such as dpkg -i -f apt-history
[21:49]  * carlitos____ hola a todos
[21:49] <bogdanbiv> amik: I don't know any tool that can do it for you automagically.
[21:51] <amik> bogdanbiv: but is it documented anywhere? hopefully a changelog will suffice and I won't need the diff (if nothing too significant is changed)
[21:51] <tom_> heellooo
[21:51] <bogdanbiv> amik: you should get sources from the package in the repository, unpack them and then compare the sources obtained from the repository with the latest release of your favourite project.
[21:51] <tom_> wow I didnt know that here is life :)
[21:52] <tom_> ubuntu master waiting for questions :)
[21:54] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- dist-upgrade is what you want
[22:08] <yoga> If I want to upgrade my Kubuntu 9.04 to the KDE 4.3 beta 2, what CLI command should I do use?  Which packages to upgrade?
[22:18] <Dragnslcr> yoga- you'd have to add the repository to your sources.list file
[22:22] <user____> divx
[22:24] <noaXess> where can i check, which programm does write when data to my hd?
[22:25] <yoga> Dragnslcr: I already add the required repository, but don't know which package to update?
[22:39] <|PaperTiger|> In Amarok, is there a way to undo naming a lot of track names? Or deleting the tracks in question and just importing the file with the correct titles?
[22:40] <Dragnslcr> yoga- as far as I know, just a normal update/upgrade will install the new KDE packages
[22:42] <EqualizeR> is anyone having trouble with the new knetworkmanager?
[22:45] <guest1234567> EqualizeR: i had
[22:45] <guest1234567> but now i fixed
[22:45] <guest1234567> with wpa-psk and atheros
[22:45] <guest1234567> now works great
[22:46] <EqualizeR> my card is a intel
[22:46] <guest1234567> te best thing is
[22:47] <guest1234567> reset router
[22:47] <guest1234567> try without wpa
[22:47] <guest1234567> if doesn't work
[22:47] <guest1234567> change driver
[22:47] <guest1234567> untill without wpa it works
[22:47] <guest1234567> then.... of course you could try to set wpa
[22:48] <kaddi_> EqualizeR: knetworkmanager has not worked for me in jaunty ever. I switched to wicd and I've been pretty happy with it so far.. worked flawless
[22:48] <guest1234567> here with atheros wpa-psk work
[22:48] <guest1234567> it works
[22:48] <EqualizeR> yeah i've done it all, wpa, no wpa, broadcast ssid, no broadcast
[22:48] <EqualizeR> i will try changing my drivers
[22:49] <guest1234567> try before resetting your router
[22:49] <guest1234567> i dunno why but if i reboot a lots of time , my netgear router doesn't want my wifi
[22:50] <guest1234567> good night :D
[22:50] <guest1234567> leaving
[22:51] <EqualizeR> yes, with wicd it works...
[22:52] <EqualizeR> i guess the new knetworkmanager is bugged
[22:52] <kaddi_> the old was too, lol
[22:52] <kaddi_> +one
[22:52] <EqualizeR> lol, yes it was
[22:53] <EqualizeR> but not so badly
[22:53] <NiTzer> EqualizeR:  Knetworkmanager is bugged.  They are working on it.  At least it remembers some wifi networks now.  But I can't connect at home using AES WPA2
[22:53] <halberd> what do you use to open postscript files?
[22:53] <NiTzer> EqualizeR:  WEP works on another network though ... so far
[22:54] <halberd> kpdf?
[22:54] <halberd> kghostview
[22:54] <kaddi_> ghostview usually.
[22:54] <mackk431> hey i still try to figure out why my update program blocks my updates sudo aptitude install dist-upgrade doesnt work
[22:54] <mackk431> any ideas?
[22:55] <halberd> what kind of file is application/x-zerosize
[22:55] <NiTzer> mackk431:  If you perform a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from a terminal windows what do you see?
[22:56] <NiTzer> halberd:  empty file I thought...does the file have a byte size?
[22:57] <halberd> yeah it is empty
[22:57] <kaddi_> halberd: application/x-zerosize suggests that you have a file with 0bytes
[22:57]  * kaddi_ is too slow today
[22:58] <robin0800> mackk431 sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[22:59] <yoga> Dragnslcr: But I know want to install other packages such as the kernel image, I just want to try the new KDE 4.3
[23:00] <NiTzer> yoga:  I think you can just add the Jaunty ppa and get KDE 4.3.  The kernel images may be held back unless you perform a dist-upgrade.
[23:01] <yoga> NiTzer: ok.
[23:01] <yoga> NiTzer: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:02] <NiTzer> yoga:  yep, after you add the ppa apt source to your source list
[23:02] <mackk431> ok problem solved thanks for help always appreciate
[23:06] <joshua__> I nwws TO FART
[23:06] <joshua__> need*
[23:06] <bazhang> joshua__, not here
[23:07] <bazhang> joshua__, this is Kubuntu support only; chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:07] <joshua__> ummm...ok
[23:31] <yoga> Is there any compize howto doc for Kubuntu?
[23:33] <bazhang> !compiz | yoga
[23:53] <kinardo> does anyone konw of a good peer client that actually works with ubuntu?
[23:54] <genii> kinardo: Please define "peer client"
[23:54] <ricardo__> hello
[23:54] <kinardo> peer to peer....download
[23:54] <ricardo__> where is the send recieve webcam option
[23:54] <ricardo__> in kopete
[23:55] <genii> kinardo: ktorrent is the default torrent client and works very well
[23:56] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone have any tips on how to tweak xorg.conf to get better performance with an nvidia card?  It seems the new Xorg server that 9.04 uses has tried to phase out xorg.conf.
[23:56] <kinardo> ok, i just got qbittrrent, it seems to be working ok...I'll try ktorrent
[23:58] <kinardo> thanks ya'll Im good now...