[23:15] <monkeybox> mplayer and vlc should do the trick though
[23:16] <twinshock> monkeybox, k
[23:16] <datta> does anyone have the problem with the keyring
[23:16] <ParkerH> So I installed the broadcom 43 driver via restricted drivers, but I have no option to connect to wireless networks
[23:16] <ParkerH> Does anyone have the solution?
[23:16] <Guest74704> yo- Im having issues getting an 8GB ipod touch working with 10.10. I can see the ipod in rhythmbox, put stuff on the ipod seemingly fine, but then the ipod itself doesnt have the song
[23:16] <histo> ParkerH: try the sta driver
[23:17] <Guest74704> does anyone else have it working
[23:17] <histo> Guest484751: is it a 3g ipod?
[23:17] <Zsolt> hi there:I deleted apache2 config files,is it possible to reinstall apache2 with the config files?
[23:17] <ParkerH> histo: where do I get it?
[23:17] <histo> Guest484751: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[23:17] <noobie25> tq:  yes using grub .... i tried the nomodeset  from someone elses suggestion.
[23:18] <GSF1200> what do you mean by 3g ipod histo? Its 8 GB.. im sorry, but how do I tell?
[23:18] <ParkerH> histo: on restricted drivers the sta driver does not show up
[23:18] <histo> ParkerH: from the restricted drivers manager. What type of broadcom card do you have?  and make sure if there is a switch to enable/disable wireless that it's enabled
[23:18] <noobie25> grim__:   do you think you can help me with the ati driver?  i really like ubuntu's look and would like to continue using it.
[23:18] <histo> GSF1200: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[23:18] <ParkerH> I'm on a late 2009 mac mini so I believe it's the broadcom 43 driver
[23:18] <tq> noobie25: ah, whats the exact problem - when _not_ using nomodeset - is it screen corruption?
[23:18] <noobie25> grim__:  do you know if using kubuntu, i'll have better luck?
[23:19] <madjr> @liminal, i think you should boot with your 2nd monitor already plug in and turned on
[23:19] <ParkerH> histo: there is no switch to enable or disable wireless. :/
[23:19] <histo> ParkerH: well there are different 43xx
[23:19] <tripelb> update of 10/04 > cant print. got HP driver, installed, cant print. driver is there on the panel. Prints out "unabel to open the initial device, quitting.". Used to work flawlessly.
[23:19] <grim__> noobie25, I'm running a ATI Radeon HD4750 and and 2 Monitors with different resolutions, I tried to configure dual monitor mode with the open ati driver but had no luck, so I changed to the proprietary driver from ATI and solved all problems, had some trouble to install but in the end everything was fine
[23:19] <Zsolt> are there any commands to reinstall programs with config files?
[23:19] <histo> ParkerH: lspci | grep Network
[23:19] <itaylor57> GSF1200: if you are running OS 4.1 or greater than you are mostly SOL
[23:19] <monkeybox> Zsolt, should be able to use the --purge option with apt-get and uninstall apache2 then reinstall it
[23:19] <ben_k> hello
[23:19] <noobie25> tq:   screen corruption only on "half of the extended screen.... its like that portion of the screen doesn't refresh or something....buffer doesn't flush"
[23:20] <liminal> madjr no difference
[23:20] <ParkerH> histo: is there an email or gtalk I could contact you at? I'm dual booting and am on my os x partition right now. So I'll have to reboot first
[23:20] <Zsolt> thank you
[23:20] <grim__> noobie25, I think it makes no difference using kubuntu
[23:20] <liminal> same problem, take it out screen goes right but it back screen goes wrong
[23:20] <histo> ParkerH: No that's alright le tme look something up first
[23:20] <noobie25> grim__:   i've been having trouble trying to proprietary ati install.... none of them lets me run.   how did you get it installed?"
 Im assuming itunes has updated this ipod beyond 4.1, eh?
[23:20] <ParkerH> histo: actually I think I already ran those. Here's my forum post with that posted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1644990
[23:21] <noobie25> grim__:   i'm going to try one last time with any of tq's suggestion to get the proprietary software installed....and then try another distro.
[23:21] <grim__> noobie25, hm.. don't really know anymore, but the forums helped out
[23:21] <tripelb> Must I go back into windows to print?  This is pretty basic to having a usable system. (2.worked fine.2.os update3.fail4.downloaded and reinstalled HP driver stuff5.reboot, see new icon on panel and still fail. 7 prints out"unable to open the initial device, quitting")  please help me print. 10.04
[23:21] <noobie25> grim__:   which forum?
[23:21] <grim__> noobie25, naaah that's not a distribution issue
[23:22] <ubuntu-usr> it is possible to make voice call in psi using google talk?
[23:22] <danielvilhas> How can I install Ruby, RubyGems and Ruby on Rails on ubuntu?
[23:22] <tripelb> oh and i removed the printer and reinstalled it too.
[23:22] <itaylor57> tripelb: What HP printer?
[23:22] <grim__> noobie25, ubuntu forums I guess, but there are a lot of other sites dealing with that problem
[23:22] <tripelb> 5440 jet HP itaylor57
[23:22] <noobie25> grim__:  is it the same problem i am having....where half the extended screen gets scrambled?
[23:22] <xangua> GSF1200: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/0kHr49_g4M8/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html
[23:22] <histo> ParkerH: yeah you definately need the broadcom sta driver not the b43
[23:23] <madjr> @liminal, hmm i think you should file a bug report
[23:23] <danielvilhas> can anyone help me?
[23:23] <grim__> noobie25, as I said I can't really remember, I'm running this configuration now for quite some time and never touched the configs again :D
[23:25] <Emerling> question:??  yours know the Evolution channel?
[23:25] <noobie25> grim__:  thank you ...i'll look for that posting
[23:25] <grim__> noobie25, good luck
[23:25] <itaylor57> tripelb: I have an hp all in one so connecting it is different
[23:25] <Texas> anyone use clam???
[23:25] <monkeybox> daniel_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[23:25] <grim__> alrighty I'm off then, night
[23:25] <madjr> @tripelb, you upgraded from what version of ubuntu?
[23:26] <monkeybox> danielvilhas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails | you can use the sudo apt-get XXXXX to install all of those packages
[23:26] <thenumber28> would someone be willing to troubleshoot me? I'm having some issues installing ubuntu (first timer)
[23:27] <noobie25> how do i create an xorg file?
[23:27] <monkeybox> thenumber28, What issues are you having
[23:27] <oxyrosis> help me please, i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and the sound worked with the live cd, but with my new install no sound. what can i do? on a side not my S/PDIF is set to 00 but wont go up. on the pulse audio manager i see that sound is being processed, with moving bars on the left and right channels
[23:27] <itaylor57> tripelb: Did you use something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[23:27] <thenumber28> well, I'm in the process of installing and it appears to be done writing to my harddrive
[23:28] <thenumber28> all it says now is "waiting for you", but does not allow me to forward
[23:28] <forteller> Hi all! I recently f-d up my PC, so I had to take backups of all my files while running Ubuntu from the Live CD and do a clean install. Now I want to move my backups back, but I'm getting error messages about file permissions. Could someone please tell me what permissions normal files and folders should have, and what command I should use to change them all back to that permission?
[23:28] <twinshock> monkeybox, i dint get following two codecs libopencore-amrnb-dev libopencore-amrwb-dev ,is it create some sort of problem 2 me
[23:28] <thenumber28> I'm just stuck at the "who are you?" page
[23:28] <monkeybox> thenumber28, what version are you trying to install? and on what type of hardware?
[23:28] <danielvilhas> Monkeybox, thanks
[23:28] <twinshock> monkeybox, i dint get following two codecs libopencore-amrnb-dev libopencore-amrwb-dev ,is it going 2 create some sort of problem 2 me
[23:28] <danielvilhas> I'll try.
[23:28] <roy_1> hi! my sda has a bad sector which is giving me a very tough time. is it possible to check individual partitions (and not the entire drive) for bad sectors?
[23:28] <thenumber28> it's the most recent version, I downloaded it a few hours ago
[23:29] <thenumber28> the PC is custom built
[23:29] <roy_1> i'm on ubuntu 10.10
[23:29] <DrManhattan> youd be better off savingyourself the trouble and getting a new hard drive
[23:29] <thiebaude> thenumber28, clean install or dual boot?
[23:29] <twinshock> roy_1 use fsck.extx /dev/sdax
[23:29] <thenumber28> clean install
[23:29] <thiebaude> ok
[23:29] <monkeybox> twinshock, you can undo the work you did by the code at the bottom of the page
[23:29] <tripelb> madjr, I didnt upgrade (sorry wrong word) I just do the suggested UPDATES. (someone in here told me the update might have munched my driver. Thus I went to the HP site and "did what they told me to do" download (itaylor57 who has gone - so no i didnt do the all in one)
[23:30] <thenumber28> if it makes any difference, I'm actually running ubuntu right now from the disc
[23:30] <tripelb> roy_1, getting a new hard drive is a good thing. I did it and I'm clam-happy
[23:30] <madjr> @forteller, run sudo nautilus in root mode, then you will be able to change the permissions back to the user you want
[23:30] <thenumber28> and attempting to install simultaneously
[23:31] <twinshock> so is there any other way 2 play these files
[23:31] <roy_1> twinshock, the area with the bs is now mostly unallocated. i'm creating small partitions to see which one is bad. my plan is to then create my usable partitions, and delete the culprit. what ext should i use for these (temp) partitions?
[23:32] <monkeybox> thenumber28, did the computer reboot before install started?
[23:32] <thenumber28> no?
[23:32] <thenumber28> it did this before I ran ubuntu off the disc, too
[23:32] <twinshock> well i dint face any problem playing flv videos in rhel5 monkeybox , is there any other way
[23:32] <thenumber28> it just gets stuck at the "who are you?" step of installation saying it's waiting on me, but does not allow me to forward
[23:33] <bastidrazor> thenumber28: use an all lowercase username
[23:33] <DrManhattan> thenumber28, test your memory.
[23:33] <twinshock> roy_1 whatever partition u r going to create it must having a filesystem , u have 2 mention that filesystem only
[23:33] <thenumber28> hahaha
[23:33] <thenumber28> the all lowercase worked
[23:33] <thenumber28> what the hell?
[23:33] <DrManhattan> nice
[23:34] <itaylor57> DrManhattan: good catch
[23:34] <thenumber28> brilliant =P
[23:34] <thenumber28> thanks a lot
[23:34] <bastidrazor> thenumber28: you're welcome
[23:34] <madjr> the lowercase thing should be filed as a papercut..
[23:34] <itaylor57> bastidrazor: Good catch
[23:35] <thenumber28> I was just using my avatar "28", too
[23:35] <cf0531> hey i have a question, does anyone know of a program that can convert .ogv video files to like flash or .mov or .avi, anything that my windoze using friends might be more apt to be able to view
[23:35] <cjdevlin> twinshock: vlc will play flv files
[23:35] <monkeybox> twinshock, not sure.  Vlc should play those files for you
[23:35] <monkeybox> I can play them on my machine
[23:35] <goltoof_> cf0531:  ffmpeg
[23:35] <roy_1> so, suppose i want to check sda1 (ntfs). what command to use?
[23:36] <cjdevlin> cj0531: tell them to just download vlc player and they can see them
[23:36] <kcorcoran> I downloaded/compiled/install an application.  what is the best practice for uninstalling an application via command line?
[23:36] <goltoof_> cf0531:  never worked with ogv, so not so sure
[23:36] <cf0531> vlc plays .ogv?
[23:36] <xangua> cf0531: or just tell your friends to use VLC
[23:36] <cjdevlin> kcorcoran: did you do configure/make/make install?
[23:36] <kcorcoran> cjdevlin
[23:36] <ParkerH> That fixed my problem with the wireless!
[23:36] <kcorcoran> oops, yes
[23:36] <cjdevlin> cf0531: yes
[23:36] <bastidrazor> kcorcoran: delete the source files.. future reference use checkinstall instead of make install ..
[23:36] <sjm> kcorcoran, usually if you compiled and installed it with make install there is also a make uninstall
[23:36] <cf0531> ok thanks guys
[23:36] <ParkerH> I forgot who was helping me with it...sory
[23:36] <bastidrazor> !checkinstall
[23:36] <twinshock> cjdevlin,monkeybox i tried but i doesnt
[23:36] <goltoof_> cf0531:  vlc plays just about every format, and if it doesn't theres usually a codec to make it work
[23:36] <twinshock> cjdevlin,monkeybox i tried but it doesnt
[23:37] <cjdevlin> go into the source directory and do 'make uninstall'
[23:37] <Jordan_U> cjdevlin: "sudo make uninstall" in the build directory.
[23:37] <kcorcoran> cool, let me go check
[23:37] <tripelb> i AM LOOking at the document print window and the file to be printed says Stopped. how can I restart it? Printer printed "unable to open the initial device, quitting" HP 10.04 -- used to work fine.
[23:37] <twinshock> vlc is playing other sort of files except flv monkeybox,cjdevlin
[23:38] <cjdevlin> twinshock: where did you get the file? have you tried other flv files?
[23:38] <Guest87188> hey guys, i'm trying to make cat video0 > test.raw from my webcam, and i got this message: cat: video0: Invalid argument
[23:38] <Guest87188> anyidea?
[23:38] <Guest87188> thx
[23:38] <twinshock> cjdevlin i downloaded those videos from utube
[23:38] <jimcooncat> what is the name of the default screen magnifier app?
[23:39] <xangua> jimcooncat: orca¿
[23:39] <madjr> @tripelb, for this it may be best to post on the forums, i think you got a bad update , so they need to make some tests and post it there
[23:40] <jimcooncat> xangua, ok, I thought it might be, but when I started it it was asking about sound
[23:40] <cjdevlin> twinshock: can you post a link to the file?
[23:40] <twinshock> cjdevlin, vlc prompts unsupported video codecs , may be i am not having the codecs needed to play these files
[23:41] <twinshock> cjdevlin, actually i downloaded them before so m not having those links :(
[23:43] <twinshock> cjdevlin , do u know the proper video codecs for flv, well i dint face ny problem in playing these videos in rhel5
[23:43] <cjdevlin> do you have ffmpeg installed?
[23:44] <cjdevlin> twinshock: do you have ffmpeg installed*?
[23:44] <kcorcoran> okay, uninstalled, re-installed...getting an erro when launching that i have not seen before - execv: Permission denied ??
[23:44] <dfdfsdf> hi, i did xhost local:root , but it's not saved after reboot, how can i solve that?
[23:45] <monkeybox> twinshock, try flv files from a different source and see if you have the same issue
[23:46] <twinshock> cjdevlin,yes i had before ,but the same issue then as well
[23:46] <cjdevlin> kcorcoran: if you sudo'd some stuff the owner  will be root. you may just have to change the owner. to see who owns the file: ls -al filename
[23:47] <cjdevlin> twinshock: dpkg -l | grep vlc and put the output to pastebin
[23:47] <vallhalla> hey all
[23:47]  * ^Phantom2^ frantically searches for a blank cd
[23:49] <kcorcoran> cjdevlin:  i appreciate the help.  can you look at the output and help me to understand? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544228/
[23:49] <kcorcoran> cjdevlin:  i am sure i caused the issue.  i had fgrun working and uninstalled/installed...it doesn't work now for some reason
[23:49] <goltoof_> ^Phantom2^:  don't get the need for cd's anymore, now that you can make a bootable usb image out of anything
[23:50] <^Phantom2^> my laptop is a bit older
[23:50] <^Phantom2^> and won't boot from the usb
[23:50] <cjdevlin> kcorcoran: the first letters are the permissions for different thing r - read, w - write, x - execute. it looks like you are the owner however. have you ran the program as sudo?
[23:50] <goltoof_> ^Phantom2^:  i don't get the need for it, except that :)
[23:50] <^Phantom2^> XD
[23:50] <goltoof_> ^Phantom2^:  you change the bootloader to usb?
[23:50] <^Phantom2^> And my car is older too...
[23:51] <^Phantom2^> goltoof_, that option isn't in the BIOS, looked all over.
[23:51] <goltoof_> ^Phantom2^:  mine to, i still ride with pride
[23:51] <kcorcoran> let me retry
[23:51] <^Phantom2^> i still burn CDs for the car, heh
[23:51] <glitchd> help me get my mic to work?
[23:51] <^Phantom2^> but I will stop being so offtopic
[23:51] <^Phantom2^> didn't there used to be an offtopic channel?
[23:52] <twinshock> cjdevlin,        ii  vlc                                        1.0.4-bt1                                                  VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player supporting most audio and video formats (H.264, Ogg, DivX, MKV, TS, MPEG-2,
[23:52] <goltoof_> ^Phantom2^: I keep my eyes peeled for a tape deck so i can use the tape adapter which i have like a million of
[23:52] <goltoof_> !ot
[23:52] <goltoof_> that was for me :P
[23:52] <glitchd> can someone help me figure out why my mic isnt working?
[23:52] <^Phantom2^> my car doesn't have a tape deck D:
[23:53] <kcorcoran> cjdevlin:  closed the terminal window and opened a new terminal; tried again, same result.
[23:53] <^Phantom2^> but my uncle will help me install a 3.5mm headphone plug when I find and adapter
[23:53] <goltoof_> glitchd:  not working at all?
[23:53] <^Phantom2^> he's my mechanic
[23:53] <cf0531> ok bye guys ffmpeg did exactly what i needed it to do. thank you
[23:53] <kcorcoran> not quite sure what i am doing wrong?
[23:53] <glitchd> goltoof_, the mic works in windows, but now it wont work in ubuntu
[23:53] <helpisneeded> Hi, I reset my password, and now ubuntu wont load, saying something like "ICE Authority" and later another message says something about Nautilus cannot do this or that... :(
[23:53] <cjdevlin> twinshock: if you had it installed that command should look like this: http://pastebin.com/QbTF9eyt
[23:53] <goltoof_> helpisneeded:  you know, i was once in the exact same spot you're in now.. sorry i don't remember why :(
[23:54] <helpisneeded> goltoof_ lol np ;)
[23:54] <cjdevlin> kcorcoran: what is the error message you are getting?
[23:54] <glitchd> goltoof_, any ideas?
[23:55] <kcorcoran> cjdevlin:  the application will launch, however in a window it diplays "execv: permission denied"  and the program never loads to actually run
[23:55] <goltoof_> glitchd:  :(
[23:56] <glitchd> goltoof_, what does that mean?
[23:56] <Benkinooby> hi, i was watching a movie with vlc and suddly was looged out. dmesg tells me [21329.209335] vlc[8664]: segfault at 9f43b6d8 ip 00219118 sp b7079e30 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[1ea000+153000] also sometimes it happes, that vlc renders my laptop unresponsive and my hdd-led is on. where should i report that?
[23:56] <glitchd> goltoof_, is that  a no?
[23:56] <goltoof_> glitchd:  no... i mean yes.. it's a no
[23:57] <Nubulis> just upgraded to ubuntu 10.10 installed kde but don't have the option to boot kde at login, any suggestions
[23:58] <xangua> how did you install kde Nubulis'¿
[23:59] <MalikelRo7El7azi> excuse me, can someone tell me how to fix the splash screen problem on Ubuntu 10.10
[23:59] <MalikelRo7El7azi> ?
[23:59] <Nubulis> Phantom: through terminal, sudo
[23:59] <^Phantom2^> Sorry for all the nick changes, I'm linking my nicks.
[23:59] <Nubulis> sorry,,,, Xangua:
[23:59] <Nubulis> reading two lines at once
[23:59] <xangua> Nubulis: sudo what¿


[09:57] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[13:55] <KGB-0> gnome-session Pablo M 390304 * commented merge request !13 * https://deb.li/iiYEj
[14:48] <KGB-2> gnome-session Pablo M 390314 * commented merge request !13 * https://deb.li/3T552
[18:25] <BloatJanitor> Why is libcolorhug2 a depends in debian sid and ubuntu lunar for the colord package? I got an alert this morning from an added bloat tag.
[19:37] <KGB-2> mutter pristine-tar c929d6d Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mutter_44.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_44.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_44.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3aQc
[19:57] <KGB-0> mutter tags d2334e6 Marco Trevisan upstream/44.0 * Upstream version 44.0 * https://deb.li/37zdD
[20:14] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags 8ac876f Marco Trevisan ubuntu/44.0-1ubuntu1 * mutter Debian release 44.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/76JU
[20:14] <Trevinho> kenvandine: ^^^
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[23:38] <KGB-0> libadwaita ubuntu/master a046e17 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ubuntu/style-manager-Support-Yaru-accent-colors.patch * debian/patches: Do not crash if setting a theme with Yaru prefix * https://deb.li/OWfC
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[23:38] <KGB-2> libadwaita pipeline Marco Trevisan 513156 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
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[04:09] <Dr_Coke> help
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !help | Dr_Coke
[04:10] <Dr_Coke> nvidia drivers and my new monitor won't scale to 2550x1440
[04:10] <Dr_Coke> or whatever that resolution is
[04:10] <Dr_Coke> around 2500x1440
[04:10] <Dr_Coke> it scales and gives me no taskbar
[04:11] <Dr_Coke> and puts the login in a weird place
[04:12] <cfhowlett> bring this to #ubuntu, Dr_Coke
[04:12] <Dr_Coke> ok
[19:45] <xubuntu42w> Hi, this is my first time (and on a tablet so please be patient..). I installed xubuntu 16.04 at my fathers pc today, but the screen went a few time blueish with little blocks spread across the screen. I think the video card is not properly installed.
[19:49] <xubuntu42w> It is a Nvidia corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2). I did a lot times the standard updat-command through the terminal but I did not check the last tab with "additional drivers". My father is not nearby, so before I will go over, I would like to have a few things in mind that I can try.
[20:01] <xubuntu80w> Is it any different between using the software updater and the updates in software ? It seems it is never finnish.
[20:03] <xubuntu42w> How do you mean updates in software? I did both, the gui update and the terminal update command.
[20:05] <xubuntu80w> It is the menu software. there is the updates.
[20:06] <xubuntu80w> It is only standing there and go round and round for 45 min.
[20:10] <xubuntu80w> No answer in here.
[20:11] <xubuntu80w> I am disepointed it is allways so many bugs with linux and they continue in every versions.
[22:56] <triode132> @xubuntu80w Gnome Software is terrible, and I certainly wouldn't use it to install updates.
[22:57] <triode132> how it got forked into Ubuntus I don't know why. you can install the old Software Center though
[22:58] <triode132> I would update via CLI or the Software Updater
[23:02] <Perigee> Oh good I'm not the only one that thinks that


[00:05]  * BUGabundo $echo moo; reply: foobed
[00:16] <fta> asac, so i just cheated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/231824/
[00:25] <asac> great ;)
[00:25] <asac> very good and responsibly;)
[00:34] <fta> asac, ??
[00:34] <fta> in v8, does it even work?
[00:34] <fta> +soname=on
[00:34] <fta> +export soname
[00:35] <fta> it probably doesn't..
[00:42] <asac> fta: it does here. but not perfectly
[00:42] <asac> e.g. the links and stuff are not created. just the soname added
[00:42] <fta> it's supposed to be an argument for scons, not an env var
[00:42] <asac> fta: oh yeah
[00:42] <fta> but well, who knows with scons
[00:42] <asac> fta: i figured that out by now ;)
[00:43] <asac> thought i already updated the branch
[00:43] <fta> nope
[00:43] <asac> yeah. will do. currently checking out bleeding_edge
[00:43] <asac> trunk has no landings for 10 days ;)
[00:45] <asac> wow .. that takes ages.
[00:45] <asac> i have the feeling i am trashing my hide all patch right now
[00:45] <asac> in git-svn
[00:45] <fta> we should probably just take: wget -qO- http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/DEPS | grep //v8 | cut -d'"' -f2
[00:46] <asac> fta: yes. the idea is to use the branches
[00:46] <asac> fta: why i ended up doing this is another story
[00:46] <asac> i wanted to test rebasing
[00:46] <asac> and then found that nothing has landed since i prepared the patch
[00:47] <asac> also thought i might test amd64
[00:47] <fta> so we always have the v8 suitable for chromium, not some crazy stuff that will no work as system lib
[00:47] <fta> not
[00:47] <asac> well. if  chromium flips branches like mad we shouldnt follow chromium i think
[00:48] <asac> if its a maintainable way they proceed then yes.
[00:48] <asac> only future can tell. for now i think the stable branches is right approach. also before doing anything we need to see how the ABI/API breakage is ... but for that i had to hide all symbols
[00:53] <fta> they always use the same branch, they just bump the revid
[00:53] <asac> let me commit a few things
[00:53] <asac> yeah
[00:54] <fta> i wanted to enable v8 daily
[00:54] <asac> i think we need to get a feeling how it goes. i expect them to merge new stuff to the branch quite short before they need it
[00:54] <asac> we will see what happens if we bump ahead a few days (if we really use syslib in chromium at some point)
[00:55] <asac> so in theory they shouldnt break abi/api on branches; if we assume that thats the case it should work to just bump to that branch daily
[00:58] <fta> hm.. can i pass arguments to debian/rules from the bzr bd command line?
[00:58] <asac> fta: well. if you can do that with dpkg-buildpackage or debuild then yes
[01:01] <fta> can't find how
[01:03] <asac> fta: can you check if a bzr bd on current v8 builds?
[01:03] <asac> or at least gets the patches applied
[01:04] <asac> (i have some confusion here with the branches and tarballs i have)
[01:04] <asac> fta: dont do it ;)
[01:04] <asac> i forgot the new file in the patch
[01:06] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/231962/
[01:07] <asac> yes
[01:07] <asac> thats added now
[01:07] <asac> let me check if the build finishes
[01:09] <asac> i think i think i think
[01:09] <asac> i forgot even more
[01:12] <asac> fta: what do you think: should we really add all the hidden wrappers to the tree?
[01:12] <asac> or rahter one file with a list of headers that should be wrapped in obj/... ?
[01:12] <asac> on demand?
[01:12] <asac> for me the list sounds more reasonable
[01:13] <fta> asac, you should file a bug upstream and expose the options, would be a loss to invest time in the wrong direction
[01:14] <fta> i can try to pull some strings if needed
[01:16] <fta> asac, doesn't link here
[01:17] <fta> building chromium with -j4 on my quad core doesn't help, it was already burning all the cores
[01:17] <asac> fta: yes. because of hte headers
[01:18] <fta> missing malloc
[01:18] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/231990/
[01:24] <asac> yes its the missing sysheader thing
[01:24] <asac> $ bzr commit -m "* add create-sysheaders.sh utility script for shlibtype=\"hidden\" - update debian/patches/hidden.patch
[01:24] <asac> * explicitly run create-sysheaders.sh in post-patches:: - update debian/rules"
[01:24] <asac> Committing to: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-v8/chromium-v8.head/
[01:25] <asac> modified debian/rules
[01:25] <asac> modified debian/patches/hidden.patch
[01:25] <asac> but now i have to check whats up with the soname ;)
[01:25] <asac> Committed revision 28.
[01:25] <asac> so now it builds
[01:26] <asac> there is one bug left:
[01:26] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/232017/
[01:26] <asac> hmm
[01:27] <asac> i think for the suffix versioned soname type we shouldnt modify the libname at all
[01:27] <asac> and the links should the be created differently
[01:27] <asac> (not sure how with cons)
[01:27] <asac> scons
[02:14] <asac> fta: i think the dailies would be ready to go
[02:21] <fta> hm, no LOCAL_BRANCH :(
[02:22] <asac> fta: just saw that the DEPS actually matches the last commit on 1.2
[02:22] <asac> 18 tests failed
[02:22] <asac> out of 800+
[02:22] <asac> not sure if that is bad
[02:23] <asac> i had a flawless run a few days ago iirc
[02:25] <asac> at least that number is reproducible ;)
[02:27] <fta> done
[02:30] <fta> asac, is that with x64 or still ia32?
[02:33] <asac> patch work xul 1.9.1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232156/
[02:33] <asac> patch work ffox 3.5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232158/
[02:34] <asac> patch work xul 1.9.2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232162/
[02:35] <asac> wrong, but patch work xul 1.9.2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232163/
[02:36] <asac> patch work ffox 3.5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232168/
[02:36] <asac> err 3.6
[02:36] <asac> hehe
[02:36] <asac> fta: no thats with 32 i think
[02:36] <asac> i havent tweaked anything
[02:36] <asac> so the posts above show how many times we touch a patch ;)
[02:37] <fta> yeah, i complained about nspr_flags_by_pkg_config_hack.patch many times, even today
[02:38] <asac> the leader is: 11 - debian/patches/bz472807_att356161_nspr_nss_pc.patch
[02:38] <asac> in 1.9.2 xul
[02:38] <fta> mozilla 472807
[02:39] <asac> i cant remember what the problem was. it was some dump compatibility thing
[02:39] <asac> i think we should just drop it and see if ffox build blows up
[02:39] <fta> mozilla 290726
[02:40] <fta> pff 2005
[02:40] <fta> still NEW
[02:40] <asac> debian/patches/dont_depend_on_nspr_sources.patch
[02:41] <asac> i think we should file a bug about that
[02:42] <asac> why would that thing live in nsprpub
[02:42] <asac> i thin it should be top-level
[02:43] <fta> yep, but since hg, this is no longer really needed as we have the full src tree
[02:43] <asac> for debian/patches/bz472807_att356161_nspr_nss_pc.patch
[02:43] <asac>  i am not sure if maintaing all the header links will be less painful
[02:43] <asac> guess they should be auto generated
[02:45] <asac>  debian/patches/bz321315_gconf_backend_for_19.patch
[02:45] <asac> i think that one isnt used anymore
[02:45] <fta> v8 all done, all green \o/
[02:45] <asac> hehe
[02:45] <asac> you mean the package or upstream?
[02:45] <asac> ;)
[02:45] <fta> do you that the symbols file?
[02:45] <fta> there https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[02:45] <asac> 5 - debian/patches/rename_venkman_addon.patch
[02:46] <asac> fta: that was a quick build
[02:46] <asac> fta: yes, i added symbols
[02:46] <asac> but i dont think its enough
[02:46] <asac> to detect binary bustage
[02:47] <asac> maybe we could keep the old test binaries of the first run and then locally run them against the new lib
[02:47] <asac> and if we get abi/api problems this means we need to bump something
[02:48] <asac> but the amount of symbols is not really extraordinary high
[02:48] <asac> they clearly marked exported ones and its just n8.h
[02:48] <asac> v8.h
[02:49] <fta> c++ is ugly
[02:49] <fta> _ZN2v816FunctionTemplate31SetNamedInstancePropertyHandlerEPFNS_6HandleINS_5ValueEEENS_5LocalINS_6StringEEERKNS_12AccessorInfoEEPFS3_S6_NS4_IS2_EES9_EPFNS1_INS_7BooleanEEES6_S9_ESI_PFNS1_INS_5ArrayEEES9_ES3_@Base
[02:49] <fta> pff
[02:49] <asac> yeah
[02:49] <asac> at least that string hcanges if the signature changes
[02:52] <asac> commits to v8.h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232197/
[02:53] <asac> v8-debug.h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232198/
[02:53] <fta> no -c4 in your rules file?
[02:57] <asac> -c?
[02:58] <asac> not sure if v8 rules is actually mine ;)
[03:02] <fta> i mean, something like DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS += -- -c4
[03:03] <fta> so dpkg-gensymbols complains about new symbols and ftbfs
[03:03] <fta> so we notice
[03:05] <asac> i think i remember ;)
[03:26] <asac> fta: do we need the -- ?
[03:38] <fta> pixman/debian/rules:    dh_makeshlibs -a -V 'libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.10.0)' -- -c4
[03:38] <fta>  /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk:   $(if $(is_debug_package),,dh_makeshlibs -p$(cdbs_curpkg) $(DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS))
[03:38] <fta> -c4 is not for dh_makeshlibs, it's for dpkg-gensymbols so yes, we need --
[03:39] <fta> ok, i'm tired, eyes closing, 'night
[03:41] <asac> k
[03:41] <asac> me too
[08:05] <EruditeHermit> fta: any response on your o3d thread?
[11:36] <BUGabundo> ola gente bonita
[11:37] <BUGabundo> asac: hacking V8 ?
[11:37] <asac> hehe
[11:37] <asac> not reall
[11:37] <asac> y
[11:37] <asac> using it / comparing it with mozjs
[11:38] <BUGabundo> ah
[11:38] <BUGabundo> so your vacations are spend hacking code
[11:38] <BUGabundo> :p
[11:38] <asac> my vacations? ;)
[11:38] <BUGabundo> I wish I had vacations! :(
[11:39] <BUGabundo> aren't you on vacations ?
[11:39] <asac> today is weekend
[11:39] <asac> no
[11:39] <asac> i am on weekend ;)
[11:39] <BUGabundo> at least that was what I gathered from yesterday logs
[11:39] <BUGabundo> and what rick said
[11:39] <asac> nah. i went out for a while drinking beers
[11:39] <asac> ;)
[11:39] <BUGabundo> ohh every weekend *is* weekend :)
[11:39] <BUGabundo> oh
[11:39] <asac> normal friday night action ;)
[11:39] <BUGabundo> so I lost another drunku party?
[11:40] <asac> hehe. no. it was just a few beers with a friend
[11:40] <BUGabundo> _action_ ahaha
[11:40] <asac> and then i played ETQW ;)
[11:40] <BUGabundo> a dady friend?
[11:40] <BUGabundo> *lady
[11:40] <asac> like that yeah.
[11:40] <asac> today i will go with a friend who drinks much more
[11:40] <BUGabundo> oh forgot to say yesterday
[11:40] <asac> ... usually ending with whiskey ;)
[11:40] <BUGabundo> maybe I'll file a bug
[11:41] <BUGabundo> but Modem Manager sucks when you want to reconect
[11:41] <asac> BUGabundo: thats something i observed too
[11:41] <BUGabundo> instead connecting it just disconeects
[11:41] <asac> BUGabundo: bit i havent found the time to check whats different
[11:41] <BUGabundo> maybe it needs a longer timeout
[11:41] <BUGabundo> and retry latter
[11:41] <asac> hmm
[11:41] <BUGabundo> instead instante
[11:41] <asac> for me it was hard to reconnect at all
[11:41] <BUGabundo> not for me
[11:42] <BUGabundo> but 70% of my connects end with zero traffic
[11:42] <BUGabundo> so I have to reconnect
[11:42] <asac> option?
[11:42] <BUGabundo> and then end up with it desconectign me intead connecting
[11:42] <BUGabundo> asac: yeah I think so,
[11:42] <asac> but you are able to connect after that happens
[11:42] <asac> (triyng multiple times)
[11:42] <asac> ?
[11:42] <BUGabundo> yeah
[11:43] <BUGabundo> no prob there
[11:43] <asac> thats not that bad then
[11:43] <BUGabundo> right
[11:43] <BUGabundo> I don't worry too much
[11:43] <asac> i had problems with my option card (a real option one, not a huawei option)
[11:43] <asac> to reconnect at all
[11:43] <BUGabundo> what sucks is not conecting with zero bytes (maybe bad DNSs)
[11:43] <asac> so needed unplugging or somethign
[11:43] <BUGabundo> but the fact I press conect and it disconects me instead (when I was already connected)
[11:44] <asac> BUGabundo: hmm. bad dns should not happen if you have setup your connection using the wizard (which overwrites dns entries statically)
[11:44] <BUGabundo> I never have to uplug mine
[11:44] <BUGabundo> but many many times between midnight and 1am it won't connect
[11:44] <BUGabundo> I think its ISP doing somehting
[11:44] <asac> could be
[11:44] <BUGabundo> I just use wiz
[11:44] <BUGabundo> brb
[11:44] <asac> BUGabundo: did you observe the same with 0.7.1?
[11:44] <asac> ok
[11:44] <asac> i have to get coffee too
[11:45] <asac> and maybe buy myself a new keyboard. this one starts to get boring ;)
[11:53] <BUGabundo> back
[11:53] <BUGabundo> asac: I'm using 0.8 ppa
[11:53] <BUGabundo> and yeah .7 behaved similar AFAIR
[11:54] <asac> ok then its not the same problem that i saw
[11:55] <BUGabundo> asac: and this from memory, and I have none
[12:33] <BUGabundo> asac: users on +1 are asking about th favicon for FF
[12:33] <BUGabundo> its the old one, and Windows as the new one
[12:33] <BUGabundo> is it uptream brandign missing or is it us?
[12:34] <asac> favicon?
[12:34] <BUGabundo> yeah
[12:34] <asac> thats usually sent by the website
[12:34] <BUGabundo> on the search bar
[12:34] <asac> its the one you see in the location bar
[12:34] <BUGabundo> err
[12:34] <BUGabundo> no
[12:34] <BUGabundo> look at your FF
[12:35] <BUGabundo> I see the old one
[12:35] <BUGabundo> and a new on the awesome bar
[12:38] <BUGabundo> bbl
[12:44] <asac> h m
[12:45]  * asac wonders if we should use nspr 4.8 in SRU
[12:45] <asac> i gues rather 4.7.5
[12:49] <asac> bug 387812
[12:49] <asac> bug 387745
[13:52] <asac> mozilla bug 471715
[14:45] <asac> ok nss and nspr backports to hardy/intrepid done. that will be a heroic act for chrome i hope ;)
[14:48] <eagles0513875> morning  asac
[14:50] <asac> hi
[16:18] <asac> fta: if the dailies are already fully done, could you kick off another v8 run (i seem to have missed it by a few minutes i guess)
[16:19] <asac> libv8-dev wasnt installable because it referred to libv8 and not libv8-0
[16:27] <asac> fta: do you know if i can tell the build systgem to spit out the actual gcc commands ?
[16:27] <asac> (chromium-browser9
[18:18] <maco> reading asac's blog... is multisearch only on firefox-3.0 and not firefox-3.5?
[18:35] <dtchen> it appears as an active addon in my 3.5.2
[18:35] <dtchen> grr. 3.5.1*
[18:37] <dtchen> so, both -3.0 and -3.5
[18:37] <maco> hm. maybe i need to update then quit and restart firefox then...
[19:03] <asac> ldd sconsbuild/Release/ui_tests | grep v8  libv8.so.0 => /usr/lib/libv8.so.0 (0xf72d4000)
[19:04] <asac> nm -D sconsbuild/Release/ui_tests  | grep v8 | pastebinit
[19:04] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/233340/
[19:05] <BUGabundo> echo: FAIL
[19:25] <asac> ldd sconsbuild/Release/chrome| grep v8 libv8.so.0 => /usr/lib/libv8.so.0 (0xf7301000)
[19:25] <asac> rock & roll
[19:25] <asac> will clean this mess up and then commit it
[19:25] <asac> tomorrow ,)
[20:27] <asac> system chromium stuff committed
[20:27] <asac> err, v8
[20:28] <asac> fta: is GYP_DEFINES what allows me to pass in settings referred to in .gypi files?
[21:48] <asac> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib/chromium-browser/mksnapshot': No such file or directory
[22:07] <bdrung> asac: can you have a look at adblock-plus 1.1? https://code.launchpad.net/~bdrung/firefox-extensions/adblock-plus.ubuntu/+merge/6989
[22:07] <bdrung> asac: I have prepared the package for it.
[23:11] <asac> bdrung: lp doesnt show any diff ... odd
[23:13] <bdrung> asac: then grab it via "bzr branch lp:~bdrung/firefox-extensions/adblock-plus.ubuntu"
[23:13] <asac> yeah i know
[23:13] <bdrung> asac: generating the source package does not seam to work.
[23:14] <asac> does not seem to work?
[23:14] <asac> let me check
[23:14] <bdrung> i have to create it manually via bzr export
[23:15] <bdrung> asac: i only changed the export-upstream-revision revid. the last time it worked.
[23:19] <asac> bdrung: why is clean not needed? did we add that to xpi.mk?
[23:20] <bdrung> asac: probably. without the clean target all generated files were removed.
[23:26] <bdrung> asac: thx
[23:26] <asac> bdrung: that was a typo from what i see
[23:26] <asac> Merge -> merge fixed it
[23:27] <bdrung> oh, yes
[23:28] <bdrung> asac: can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stanford-pwdhash/+bug/399036 (new release of pwhash)
[23:29] <bdrung> asac: now i maintain the debian package of pwdhash
[23:30] <asac> bdrung: do you build this from some branch for debian?
[23:31] <asac> would be easier to maintain a ubuntu branch based on debian branch i guess
[23:31] <asac> devscripts will hopefully soon be in debian ;)
[23:31] <asac> its also in NEW
[23:32] <bdrung> asac: the debian package is currently waiting in NEW, you can grab the package from http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/pwdhash/pwdhash_1.7-2.dsc (it's identical from the package in NEW)
[23:32] <bdrung> asac: you can use the pwdhash git branch, too.
[23:34] <bdrung> asac: when devscripts hits unstable i will upload a 1.7-3 version, which probably won't need ubuntu changes.
[23:34] <asac> i would think we have enough time still; its better to not go through our NEW review and then also through Debian imo
[23:34] <asac> syncing from debian doesnt need any review
[23:35] <asac> unless you say you really want to have it in now ;)
[23:35] <asac> or that you might forget ... or busy or something later
[23:35] <asac> then we can probably do it
[23:35] <bdrung> no, we don't need to hurry.
[23:36] <bdrung> i have uploaded the package to my ppa, so i hopefully will not forget it.
[23:36] <asac> bdrung: are you doing this together with the debian ext-mainatinaer team?
[23:37] <bdrung> ext-maintainer?
[23:39] <asac> [Pkg-mozext-maintainers]
[23:39] <asac> bdrung: ^^
[23:39] <asac> there is a team for mozext
[23:39] <asac> that are drafting standards etc. now
[23:40] <bdrung> no, this is the first time i hear of it.
[23:40] <asac> we had some predicussion and seemed like they are making progress; somewhat reinventing the wheel, but well ... :)
[23:40] <asac> i am happy that they do something in debian
[23:41] <asac> also we will probably be able to resync where we ship what
[23:41] <asac> so the locations will be changed soonish
[23:41] <asac> but the outcome is actually pretty smart; we can automatically determine in which/app to link the extension and so on
[23:41] <bdrung> sounds good.
[23:43] <bdrung> asac: i am currently preparing mozgest