[02:57] <MrPPS> Anyone here have any details about the recently released repo updates to dovecot-core on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:57] <MrPPS> Can't find anything on the website that's newer than the april updates
[02:57] <sarnold> MrPPS: I believe it was to allow turning off sslv3
[02:58] <MrPPS> ah ok, so no major things that might break?
[02:58] <MrPPS> at the moment, I'm cloning the server to apply updates there, just for testing
[02:58] <sarnold> MrPPS: click on the little triangle next to "1:2.0.19-0ubuntu2.2" here, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot
[02:59] <MrPPS> ah, cheers :) thanks sarnold!
[02:59] <sarnold> MrPPS: there's no reports of any problems yet, and at least one user found that it worked :)
[03:00] <MrPPS> :D
[05:58] <hariom> Hi, my server is behind NAT and has static ip <IP_ADDRESS>. The firewall is getting another private connection and traffic is forwarded to this server's IP. The IP address of this private line is <IP_ADDRESS> . How can I add static route from server to this private line. Private line gw is <IP_ADDRESS> and domain is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <hariom> I tried "route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>" but I am getting this msg: "SIOCADDRT: No such process"
[06:53] <igoryonya_> hello, I've set a physical nic to <IP_ADDRESS> promisc and a tap0 to <IP_ADDRESS>, connected them to a bridge, but the virtual machine still doesn't see the net, visible from that physical nic. when I configure the virtual machine's address with an address of the same subnet, that the physical card is connected to.
[07:26] <cmdd> it would have to be routed on the firewall, not the server
[07:27] <cmdd> that is if the firewall is what is seperating the two networks
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:49] <soren> smoser: Hi! Do you have a minute?
[11:52] <Voyage> my skype calling to a U.S number does not works via my ISP, I have a vps, I plan to make ssh tunnel and do all by that. Is it possible? and will it be of help?
[12:06] <Kartagis> Voyage: why doesn't it work? blocked port?
[12:10] <Voyage> dont know..
[12:10] <Voyage> skype works but no calls
[12:16] <Kartagis> Voyage: have you got credits?
[12:35] <Voyage> Kartagis,  yes
[12:35] <Voyage> it works by other isps
[12:35] <Kartagis> Voyage: try ssh tunneling then
[12:35] <Kartagis> if not, vpn
[12:35] <Voyage> Kartagis,  ok, How can I ssh tunnel?
[12:44] <Kartagis> man ssh
[12:44] <Kartagis> look for -L parameter
[12:48] <Voyage> so ssh -D 39101     wont work for skype?
[12:56] <Kartagis> Voyage: I have once used ssh tunneling, years ago; and used -L
[13:42] <hallyn> stgraber: remind me, re lxc.vs.apparmor packaging.  lxc does not have a conflicts for older apparmor, it updates the apparmor profiles in debian/rules based on the targer arch.  So what would force someone on an older systrem who updates lxc, to get the newer apparmor that doesn't balk on the new rules?
[13:42] <hallyn> I'm trying to figure out how to handle it best in libvirt, in lue of the cloud archives (trusty-on-precise which currently is causing apparmor to be uninstalled)
[13:44] <hallyn> i suppose thta since utopic is now released it can't relaly be an issue
[13:49] <eto> hello
[13:49] <eto> i would like to ask question about server variant is this right channel?
[13:54] <lordievader> eto: Yes, see /topic
[13:54] <eto> okay i have trouble figuring out which server version will have working systemd
[13:54] <eto> i am especially interested in upcoming LTS release
[13:58] <hallyn> eto: it's meant to be enabled in the next (15.04) release by default, but that's not absolutely certain.  16.04 is definately meant to use it
[13:59] <hallyn> stgraber: ah, i see, dh_gencontrol section does the depends in lxc.  very good
[13:59] <eto> hallyn: how far 16.04 is?
[13:59] <hallyn> April 2016
[14:00] <hallyn> stgraber: (though i'm not sure how to do a dh_gencontrol override in the libvirt packaging :)
[14:00] <eto> hallyn: okay and according to my info next one is 14.something
[14:09] <caribou> hallyn: I'm reading an article on the topic by Raphael Hertzog (in french); he's talking about using DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS_ALL
[14:10] <caribou> hallyn: http://goo.gl/viozTZ (if you read french)
[14:16] <hallyn> certainly no technical french :)  i'm going to try it in a build/libvirt-bin:: section
[14:16] <eto> so can i at least swith to systemd on Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS ?
[14:17] <eto> or where to ask question like that?
[14:28] <Kaltiz> I am trying to install nis but it gets stuck at Setting up nis (3.17-32ubuntu6)  I am running Ubuntu Server 14.10 any ideas?
[14:44] <refj> Netinstall hangs 20 minutes after fetching Packages.gz when installing 14.04 with preseed via iPXE. Been scouring google for a week to look solution. Found several bugs from 12.04 and earlier, where this is related to net-retriever. Anyone here experience the same issue?
[14:48] <hallyn> eto: no.  you can experimentally try systemd on 14.10 (at least some ppl have tested it), not 14.04.  #ubuntu-devel may be the better place to ask
[14:49] <caribou> hallyn: I'm just testing conditional gencontrol atm
[14:50] <hallyn> hm, so that post shows it differently...  my way didn't work so i'll try that now ;)
[14:52] <refj> Ok, how do I generate a post installation report to use as a base for a bug report regarding the possible net-retriever issue?
[14:53] <caribou> hallyn: I'm trying a mix of the lxc tests & the post syntax.
[14:54] <Kaltiz> managed to get the NIS package to install but now it does not seem to have an init.d script
[15:24] <hallyn> caribou: hah, there is an english version? http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/09/27/different-dependencies-between-debian-and-ubuntu-but-common-source-package/
[15:51] <michele> hi there
[15:52] <caribou> hallyn: didn't know abou it
[15:52] <michele> I need to change the ethernet (p2p1) address from dhcp to static (and I'm using NetworkManager) on an ubuntu server. The server is remote. I have ssh and root access. Any ideas?
[15:59] <alreece45> ... NetworkManager on a server?
[15:59] <teward> yeah i was about to say
[15:59] <teward> that's kind of unusual to have network manager on a server
[16:04] <michele> that's right
[16:04] <michele> I can remove it though
[17:01] <pmatulis> hallyn: re https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1081786 , if i have this in the host's /etc/default/lxc the container should be using it?  i have squid-deb-proxy set up
[17:01] <pmatulis> MIRROR="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000"
[17:01] <pmatulis> hallyn: it doesn't
[17:06] <hallyn> pmatulis: depends how you created the container I think.  Did you use the ubuntu template?
[17:06] <pmatulis> hallyn: lemme check
[17:07] <pmatulis> hallyn: used ' -t ubuntu '
[17:14] <hallyn> pmatulis: by any chance doe sjust adding '/ubuntu' at end of the MIRROR help?
[17:14] <pmatulis> hallyn: lemme check
[17:15] <pmatulis> hallyn: but i should be able to check if the container has *any* proxy configuration right?
[17:15] <hallyn> yeah the template definately should be using what you give it both for debootstrap and to cat into the /etc/apt/sources.list in the container (just checked the script)
[17:15] <hallyn> pmatulis: cat /etc/apt/sources.list in the container
[17:16] <pmatulis> hallyn: nothing added
[17:17] <hallyn> which release is this in?  (not that it's changed in a long time)
[17:18] <pmatulis> hallyn: my host is trusty
[17:18] <hallyn> pmatulis: so the other thing you're supposed to be able to do is set APT_PROXY which will then be put into the container's /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70proxy...  but MIRROR is supposed to work
[17:19] <pmatulis> hallyn: where/how do i set APT_PROXY again?
[17:20] <hallyn> /etc/default/lxc should work
[17:20] <eto> ty hallyn
[17:21] <hallyn> pmatulis: oh, you might try "lxc-create -t ubuntu ... -- ... --mirror=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000"
[17:21] <hallyn> but again i can't explain why it's not working
[17:21] <pmatulis> hallyn: will try
[17:29] <pmatulis> hallyn: dunno, i don't see any difference using --mirror
[17:31] <hallyn> pmatulis: ok.  lemme spin up a host i can reproduce on.
[17:31] <pmatulis> hallyn: this is what i used:
[17:31] <pmatulis> sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n $NAME -P $DISK_DIR -- -S $SSH_KEY -r $RELEASE --mirror=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[17:35] <hallyn> pmatulis: oh,
[17:35] <hallyn> pmatulis: i bet you had pre-generated a cache image.
[17:35] <hallyn> can you try adding -F?
[17:35] <pmatulis> hallyn: ah, i would need to re-generate
[17:36] <hallyn> i've got a test running, but lemme know if sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n $NAME -P $DISK_DIR -- -S $SSH_KEY -r $RELEASE --mirror=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000 -F works
[17:51] <pmatulis> hallyn: it's taking the mirror option now but evidently i need to hack at its value in order to build a valid URL
[17:57] <hallyn> pmatulis: ok, cool.  (my test failed, but due to some proxy badness, sigh)
[18:52] <monokrome> Does anyone know if this version of SSL is vulnerable to heartbleed? It's the version in our Ubuntu server.
[18:52] <monokrome> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[18:52] <monokrome> built on: Thu Aug 7 13:42:02 UTC 2014
[18:53] <qman__> Heartbleed was in April so probably not, but we need the package version to tell for sure
[18:53] <monokrome> Another machine has 1.0.1f which I think is also vulnerable?
[18:53] <monokrome> Oh, how can I get the package version?
[18:53] <ogra_> all supported releases had security updates long ago ... as long as you run something supported and kept it up to date with security fixes you will be fine
[18:53] <qman__> dpkg -l | grep openssl
[18:54] <monokrome> Thanks, I'll try that
[18:54] <monokrome> 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.17
[18:54] <qman__> Then compare against the security announcement
[18:54] <ogra_> note that major versions dont get bumped for security patches
[18:55] <monokrome> Yeah, but the version should be 1.0.1g if it is fixed (unless someone moved a patch into an older version) right?
[18:55] <ogra_> 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.17 = upstream 1.0.1 ... debian patchset 4 ... ubuntu patchset 5 ... ubuntu--security patchset 17
[18:55] <qman__> USN-2165-1
[18:55] <monokrome> ogra_: Could you help me understand how you found that?
[18:56] <ogra_> if you have the patch it will be one of the 17 security fixes ... the major version will not be touched
[18:56] <qman__> That's what the version number means
[18:56] <monokrome> Okay
[18:56] <ogra_> so no matter if it is e or f, what counts is the 17 an dteh relation to the matching USN
[18:56] <qman__> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[18:57] <ogra_> so it was fixed in 5.12 ... you are on 5.17 ... and should be safe
[18:59] <monokrome> Oh, okay. I'll bookmark that security notices site
[18:59] <monokrome> Thanks for the help :)
[18:59] <ogra_> :)
[19:17] <pmatulis> hallyn: on your trusty host can you create a lucid container?  it never works for me
[20:45] <rostam> hi I am using ubuntu 14.04. When I type the command, domainname it returns empty. How could I fix that? thanks
[20:46] <sarnold> rostam: do you really want to use NIS??
[20:48] <rostam> sarnold, We use dns in our system setup, I thought domainname should return dns server IP address???
[20:51] <sarnold> rostam: nope, domainname is for NIS
[21:04] <rostam> sarnold, thanks
[21:07] <rostam> Question how could I retrieved the dns server Ip address on my system?
[21:09] <genii> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:11] <rostam> genii, thanks
[21:11] <genii> np
[21:13] <genii> quikole: Please stop spamming in private message
[21:22] <FilthyMacNasty> any of you server people familiar with clonezilla server?
[22:28] <hallyn> pmatulis: a lucid container?  heh, i haven't tried tha tin a long time
[22:29] <pmatulis> hallyn: yeah, me too but i needed one today
[22:29]  * hallyn chekcs whehter download template supports that
[22:29] <hallyn> pmatulis: the download template supports it
[22:30] <pmatulis> hallyn: the telltale symptom is
[22:30] <pmatulis> 'Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)'
[22:30] <hallyn> pmatulis: that's with 'lxc-create -t ubuntu -n container -- -r lucid' ?
[22:31] <hallyn> pmatulis: or does that also happen with the download template?
[22:31] <hallyn> in either case, please file a bug.  but if the download templat eworks that would be a workaround for you
[22:31] <pmatulis> hallyn: same command i gave before.  also tried with -F
[22:32] <pmatulis> i'm not sure what the download template is
[22:33]  * pmatulis needs to eat
[22:33] <stgraber> pmatulis: lxc-create -t download -n container -- -d ubuntu -r lucid -a amd64
[22:37] <hallyn> pmatulis: ^ yeah what stgraber said.  Like I say in either case please file a bug, it sounds to me like actually a debootstrap bug, but since we support lucid through 2015 on server it shoudl still be owrking
[23:11] <Joe_knock> Hi.
[23:11] <Joe_knock> How do I use the sed command on this line of text: @require(dirname(__FILE__).'/php/login.php'); ?? I want to remove this line of text from about 5 files.
[23:18] <pmatulis> hallyn: oh, yes, i am using a template (-t).  like my command showed (?)
[23:18] <pmatulis> sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n $NAME -P $DISK_DIR -- -S $SSH_KEY -r $RELEASE
[23:19] <Joe_knock> pmatulis: I'm not sure I understand you.
[23:21] <pmatulis> Joe_knock: i was talking to hallyn
[23:21] <Joe_knock> okay. no problem
[23:22] <FilthyMacNasty> pmatulis: I'm certain I dunnot understand you
[23:23] <hallyn> pmatulis: the download templat eis also just another template, but it downloads pre-built tarballs from linuxcontainers.org.  i suspect that 'lxc-create -t download -n l1 -- -d ubuntu -r lucid -a amd64' will work
[23:23] <hallyn> as a workaround
[23:23]  * hallyn out, bbl
[23:23] <hallyn> (that is, a full night's sleep later :)
[23:24] <pmatulis> hallyn: ohhhh
[23:47] <Joe_knock> aah I solved my own issue. yikes


[01:16] <zacts> where may I find a list of phone models that support ubuntu?
[01:16] <zacts> I have a sony xperia Z
[01:17] <zacts> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[01:18] <zacts> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[01:22] <zacts> how do I connect my phone to t-mobile once installed?
[02:04] <zacts> I see, I'm going to try it..
[02:05] <zacts> wifi calls only, and sound only via headphones for my phone..
[02:05] <zacts> I'll make backups before starting this..
[02:07] <Haun1400> Hi Guys, I'm a bit lost on this ubuntu-touch install
[02:08] <Haun1400> I can't seem to find package ubuntu-device-touch even after adding the repositories
[02:18] <memeka> hi, im trying to port ubuntu touch to a new device, and I get this error message...
[02:18] <memeka> No private recovery resources for TARGET_DEVICE odroidu2 make: *** No rule to make target `touch/ubuntu/out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkimage', needed by `touch/ubuntu/out/target/product/odroidu2/ramdisk-uboot.img'.  Stop.
[02:18] <memeka> anyone can give a hint?
[09:36] <nexus7lte> hi, can i use ubuntu touch on my device? nexus 7 2013 LTE
[09:37] <ogra_> nexus7lte, yes
[09:37] <ogra_> hmm, unless the LTE version is musch different though ... we support the WLAN version (flo)
[09:37] <nexus7lte> ogra, in ubuntu website it only talks about flo (nexus 7 2013 wifi)
[09:38] <ogra_> *much
[09:38] <nexus7lte> is there any walkthrough for me to dual boot kitkat and ubuntu touch ?
[09:39]  * ogra_ has no idea if dual boot works on the flo ... dualboot is completely unsupported by us so its a matter of luck
[09:40] <nexus7lte> ok, forget about the dual boot, how about installing ubuntu touch on "deb"?
[09:40] <nexus7lte> this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install only talks about flo
[09:42] <ogra_> right, i dont really know how much different flo and deb are ...  you could try to force flo with an option to ubuntu-device-flash and see if it works (if it doesnt boot you will have to go back to android though)
[09:43] <ogra_> (use -device=flo when flashing)
[09:43] <nexus7lte> uhum,
[09:45] <nexus7lte> thanks for the tip
[10:27] <Kostic> Hi everyone. I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to Geeksphone Peak (original, dev one, not Peak+) and I'm having trouble with manual "enabling" of a new device chapter in the wiki page. There is a repo for a port of Android 4.0 for it (https://github.com/reimago/gp_android) which I have cloned in my /home. Can I just copy over kernel/* and device/* from gp_android (cloned repo of the port of Android for gp_peak) to peak (dir where I have phablet-dev-bo
[10:27] <Kostic> otstrap'd all the code needed for Ubuntu Touch)?
[10:31] <dedo93> hi
[10:31] <dedo93> anyone got this https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0jh1745js6w3fx/IMG_20140301_112408.jpg ?
[10:38] <ogra_> dedo93, please file a bug against ubuntu-download-manager or system-image
[10:39] <ogra_> (it is either of the two or both)
[10:48] <disposab1e> i've just installed -channel=devel on my nexus4 and i am unable to install any applications. when i click install, nothing happens. phablet-config writable-image doesn't seem to have any effect and i can't check which filesystem is ro/rw because terminal is broken
[10:48] <disposab1e> how do i install apps?
[10:48] <Aki1> terminal is broken?
[10:49] <disposab1e> Aki1: yes, enter and backspace doesn't work.
[10:49] <Aki1> disposab1e: I'm new at this, but have you gotten into adb and such?
[10:49] <Aki1> like interacting with your device through your computer?
[10:49] <disposab1e> Aki1: could you be less specific? :)
[10:50] <Aki1> disposab1e: as in, hook up your phone via usb, to your computer
[10:50] <Aki1> and run a remote terminal from your computer
[10:51] <disposab1e> Aki1: sorry, i should have included <sarcasm> tags.
[10:51] <Aki1> disposab1e: I don't understand?
[10:52] <Aki1> disposab1e: do you know what Im talking about, or not?
[10:52] <disposab1e> Aki1: nevermind. adb works, i can see my phone when i run 'adb devices'
[10:52] <Aki1> okay; can't you just execute install commands from there?
[10:55] <popey> 10:49:18 < disposab1e> Aki1: yes, enter and backspace doesn't work.
[10:55] <popey> nope, fixed
[10:56] <Aki1> sorry popey :P
[10:56] <popey> disposab1e: you need to revoot after phablet-config writable-image
[10:56] <disposab1e> popey: thanks
[10:56] <popey> *reboot
[10:56] <Aki1> popey: big fan of you on linux unplugged btw; really value your input.
[10:56] <popey> oh, thats very kind of you to say, thanks
[10:57] <disposab1e> Aki1: flattery will get you everywhere
[10:57] <popey> Free stuff for everyone!
[10:57] <Aki1> ha ha
[10:57] <popey> http://www.maxistentialism.com/bees/oprahbees.gif
[10:58] <Aki1> oh gosh...
[11:00] <disposab1e> popey: hmm. nothing seems to have changed. it vibrates when i click 'install' button but nothing happens :(. in adb shell, i can see that things are mounted rw
[11:01] <popey> click install where?
[11:01] <popey> also, why are you going rw?
[11:01] <popey> whats the goal?
[11:01] <disposab1e> the goal is to be able to install an app. i go into applications tab, there are suggestions there, i select one and click install.
[11:02] <ketul> hi
[11:02] <popey> disposab1e: you dont need to go rw to install apps
[11:02] <popey> rw mode is designed for "developers" who want to do stuff like use apt
[11:03] <disposab1e> popey: clearly, i need to overcome SOME obstacle to be able to install an app
[11:03] <ketul> i want to install ubuntu in my samsung galaxy GT-S5302
[11:03] <disposab1e> popey: it does not 'just-work'
[11:03] <popey> disposab1e: what app are you installing, on which image version, on what device?
[11:03] <popey> adb shell system-image-cli --info
[11:03] <popey> that'll tell you what version of phone image you have
[11:04] <ketul> ubuntu on my galaxy GT-S5302 help me how to do???
[11:04] <popey> !devices | ketul
[11:04] <popey> ketul: is it listed there?
[11:04] <disposab1e> popey: any app, -channel=devel, nexus4
[11:04] <ketul> no
[11:04] <popey> disposab1e: have you signed into ubuntu sso in system-settings -> accounts?
[11:04] <ketul> it means i cant
[11:05] <popey> ketul: someone needs to port to that device, maybe someone on xda already has?
[11:06] <ketul> i can install ubuntu on windows phone 8 ?
[11:06] <popey> ketul: in general, no.
[11:06] <ketul> plz do something i want to install it on my samsung galaxy phone
[11:07] <ketul> galaxy GT-S5302
[11:07] <popey> ketul: find someone to port it
[11:07] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[11:08] <disposab1e> popey: i entered my ubuntu one account details in but now it's greyed out and says "no account" on the top of the page
[11:08] <popey> disposab1e: you're not signed in then.
[11:08] <popey> disposab1e: you need to add your ubuntu one account successfully before you can install apps from the store
[11:09] <disposab1e> popey: thanks
[11:09] <disposab1e> apt-get upgrade has 133MB of new packages. i may try that too
[11:10] <popey> i wouldn't
[11:11] <popey> You're better off sticking with ro image, unless you plan on developing on the device
[11:12] <disposab1e> popey: app installation worked. is there a searchable store application or are the suggestions the only source of touch apps?
[11:13] <popey> disposab1e: there's a search button at the top of the screen . there's no app store web ui or app on the phone yet, but i believe thats all in progress
[11:16] <disposab1e> popey: because i'd like to upgrade terminal to a working version and don't know how. in system settings, when i click software updates, it just tells mi software is up to date
[11:16] <disposab1e> s/mi/me
[11:20] <popey> disposab1e: what image number you running?
[11:20] <popey> adb shell system-image-cli --info
[11:21] <Kostic> "To get a two-minute crash course in UCM and how it's used in Ubuntu Touch - start by having a look in /usr/share/alsa/ucm/apq8064-tabla-snd-card/ directory (shipped with alsa-lib). You'll need to create a similar directory for your device. You'll find the right directory name if you look in /proc/asound/cards." Where do I create this directory? In the dir where I have cloned the source of Ubuntu Touch or?
[11:22] <disposab1e> popey: trusty build 194
[11:23] <popey> disposab1e: ok. so the problem is that earlier images than 194 there was an app called "Update manager" which could update the apps (like terminal)
[11:23] <popey> unfortunately it got removed, (so isnt in the image you have) but got re-added in a later image
[11:25] <popey> however...
[11:25] <disposab1e> popey: ok. i've installed aptitude and it's now running and upgrade. i'll see if it appears or if i can install it manually
[11:25] <disposab1e> s/and/an
[11:26] <popey> one moment...
[11:26] <popey> disposab1e: http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click
[11:26] <popey> grab that
[11:26] <popey> adb push com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click /tmp
[11:26] <popey> adb shell
[11:27] <popey> sudo -u phablet-i
[11:27] <popey> bah... sudo -u phablet -i
[11:27] <popey> pkcon install-local /tmp/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.40_armhf.click
[11:27] <popey> that'll fix your terminal
[11:27] <disposab1e> popey: thank you very much. i shall try that
[11:28] <popey> np
[11:30] <Aki1> I just find most of this documentation to be going over my head: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0 Does anyone know of a good crash-course which is a little less specific? Would I be better off reading android documentation in regards to porting devices?
[11:31] <popey> Aki1: unfortunately porting isnt a click-and-go process. it's a bit complex
[11:32] <Aki1> popey: Yah I know and realize that. My software dev experience is mostly with QT, python, and higher level stuff. This a lot of kernel speak, and I want to dive in
[11:41] <ogra_> popey, wow, thats some effort ...
[11:42] <ogra_> disposab1e, tap the terminal icon and hold it ... it brings you an uninstall option then ... uninstall it, then seaarch for it in the application page and install it newly (that will bring you the new version)
[11:42] <popey> oh good call ☻
[11:42]  * ogra_ wishes for a good image the next days to we get the click updater back :(
[11:42] <popey> yeah
[11:43] <ogra_> s/to/so/
[11:55] <Kostic> Hm... "Screen definition
[11:55] <Kostic> In order to provide a consistent layout across different screen sizes and resolutions we define a grid unit to be used by developers. This is set in:
[11:56] <Kostic> "/etc/ubuntu-touch-session.d/hammerhead.conf " where is this file?
[12:00] <popey> Kostic: on the device
[12:02] <Kostic> popey: I do not have ubuntu touch running yet on it. Just Android 4.0.
[12:52] <xenos1984> hi all, i have a problem with my nexus 7. i just installed ubuntu-device-flash on my pc (running ubuntu 12.04) and tried to flash the current trusty image. it flashes, but then the nexus 7 hangs in the bootloader, showing a green arrow saying "start". it worked with phablet-flash and saucy before without problems, but i couldn't get the new image to boot so far.
[13:06] <popey> xenos1984: thats the bootloader, start the process with the device in that mode
[13:06] <xenos1984> popey: so should i flash with -bootstrap=true ?
[13:06] <ogra_> yes
[13:06] <popey> if it's the first time you're flashing, yes
[13:07] <xenos1984> actually it's not the first time, i used saucy before that
[13:10] <xenos1984> now the device says "booting downloaded image"
[13:10] <xenos1984> 2014/03/01 15:10:37 Cannot push /home/mhohmann/.cache/ubuntuimages/devel/flo/version-206.tar.xz to device
[13:11] <xenos1984> and the device is hanging at "booting downloaded image"
[13:12] <ogra_> and the device is actually a flo ?
[13:13] <xenos1984> according to the wiki it is - nexus 7 wifi from 2013
[13:13] <ogra_> (the 2013 Nexus7 WLAN model)
[13:13] <xenos1984> yes
[13:13] <ogra_> you didnt specify -device= or some such ?
[13:16] <xenos1984> i did -device=flo
[13:16] <xenos1984> it didn't find the device type by itself
[13:18] <ogra_> well, it does for all supported devices
[13:20] <ogra_> boot into recovery and try: adb shell getprop ro.product.device
[13:20] <ogra_> that shoulld tell you the actual device name
[13:21] <xenos1984> interesting, it does not boot into recovery
[13:21] <xenos1984> it just hangs in the bootloader
[13:27] <ogra_> try: fastboot getvar product
[13:27] <ogra_> should tell you the name as well (in bootloader mode)
[13:30] <xenos1984> product: grouper
[13:30] <xenos1984> finished. total time: 0.036s
[13:30] <xenos1984> this is what i got from this command
[13:32] <xenos1984> but on the ubuntu touch install wiki page it said grouper version is deprecated, so which is the current / up to date version i need to install?
[13:33] <ogra_> the images for the grouper devcie are deprecated ...
[13:33] <ogra_> (not the device name is ;) )
[13:34] <xenos1984> i see, so which is the correct (non-deprecated) image?
[13:34] <ogra_> there is no QA (testing) for them anymore etc
[13:34] <ogra_> try using -device=grouper
[13:34] <ogra_> see if that works
[13:34] <xenos1984> it's downloading
[13:35] <xenos1984> but won't that install a deprecated image?
[13:35] <ogra_> it will install the same image ... but the image has not been tested or verified on that device, might be buggy etc
[13:36] <xenos1984> ah, interesting, i have to admit that the wiki page is a bit confusing then
[13:36] <xenos1984> now recovery booted
[13:37] <ogra_> then the rest should wirk as well ... just wait
[13:40] <xenos1984> ok, great, thanks!
[13:49] <xenos1984> ubuntu 14.04 now! :)
[13:49] <ogra_> :)
[15:17] <mandel> popey, I dont think udm is broken
[15:17] <mandel> popey, are the downloads present?
[15:42] <ogra_> mandel, https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0jh1745js6w3fx/IMG_20140301_112408.jpg there seem to be other issues (not idea if thats s-i or u-d-m)
[15:42] <mandel> ogra_, well, I already have a fix for udm regarding the scope :)
[15:42] <ogra_> :)
[15:43] <Tassadar> ogra_: bug 1286542
[15:43] <mandel> ogra_, oh, that has nothing to do with udm.. yet it is a valid error (the file is there and we are not writing on top of it)
[15:45] <ogra_> Tassadar, well, that dropbox link was posted by someone earlier, seems he left, so its hard to tell if he ised your server or if this is a general error with s-i
[15:45] <ogra_> *used
[15:45] <Tassadar> I've changed my index.json by hand to make updates working for now, so it should be fine now
[15:45] <Tassadar> yeah, tasemnice.eu is mine
[15:45] <Tassadar> it shows the address in there
[15:45] <ogra_> ah, cool ... thats calming
[15:45] <ogra_> so nothing wrong with s-i in itself then
[15:46] <Tassadar> system-image.ubuntu.com won't encounter it, because it doesn't need to generate keyring tarballs - it uses the official ones
[15:47] <ogra_> right
[15:47] <Tassadar> also, sound doesn't work for me on N5 on the second call, even after those fixes. Might be something else wrong with the sound on that device :/
[15:47] <ogra_> we simply had s-i and the download manager land two images ago ...
[15:50] <asac> ogra_: all good? :)
[15:50] <ogra_> asac, semi good
[15:50] <ogra_> asac, system-image seems fine, click package installs dont
[15:51] <ogra_> asac, mandel urgently needs a device. cant be that our download manager gets developed by someone flying blind
[15:51] <mandel> ogra_, fix done => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/install-correct-path/+merge/208936
[15:52] <mandel> asac, yes, it would be very nice.. I trusted people following the test plan for udm.. and they did not
[15:52] <mandel> asac, it landed after being "tested" by 5 people
[15:52] <mandel> :-/
[15:52] <asac> can we backout?
[15:52] <asac> mandel: sure, i thought we already got you a device allocated
[15:52]  * asac checks
[15:53] <mandel> asac, it breaks the click scope, but here you have a fix => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/install-correct-path/+merge/208936
[15:53] <asac> mandel: who tested?
[15:53] <ogra_> asac, not easily, i think system-image and u-d-m would have to be reverted together in any case
[15:53] <asac> mandel: cool!
[15:54] <mandel> asac, well, system image updates work, so we can use them to add a new udm
[15:54] <ogra_> (apart from the fact that there is nobody driving the CI train on weekends)
[15:54] <mandel> asac, the unit tests cover the regression but I cannot test it properly with no device
[15:54] <mandel> ogra_, yeah, I suspect that not that many of use work over weekends :)
[15:54] <asac> so we could backout and land properly monday
[15:55] <asac> but...
[15:55] <ogra_> mandel, more than you think :) thats why we need a solution for CI at some pont
[15:55] <mandel> ogra_, well, I get all bugs to my phone, if they are urgent I'll fix them in the same day, no matter the day :)
[15:55] <ogra_> asac, well, backing out would mean uploading the old package with a new version still .... would have to happen manually
[15:55] <asac> ogra_: well, the secret is to have more core-devs trained that then can sponsor stuff through the train
[15:56] <mandel> ralsina_, can you do that ^
[15:56] <ogra_> asac, you cant really force people to work on the weekend though ... we need voluntary community involvement in the CI train IMHO
[15:56] <asac> ogra_: well, if its a firedrill
[15:56] <ogra_> and for that the system needs to be better i guess
[15:56] <asac> you guys work :)
[15:56] <ogra_> i dont work
[15:56] <ogra_> :)
[15:56] <ogra_> i chat :)
[15:57] <asac> but you are here
[15:57] <asac> as i said, in general core-devs... if there are no community coredevs
[15:57] <ogra_> right (and indeed i planned to do some stuff later) :)
[15:57] <asac> thats a separate problem
[15:57] <ogra_> we have community core-devs ... but none of them can drive landings via CI train
[15:57] <asac> if we are sure that backing out ss and udm will fix stuff
[15:58] <asac> we could do that through direct upload to mitigate i guess
[15:58] <asac> ogra_: not yet.
[15:58] <ogra_> but thats a distinct problem ... imho if we want to make CI a default the weekend will need coverage
[15:58] <mandel> asac, it will revert the changes do to correctly upload via the UI but will fix the click scope
[15:59] <asac> upload via UI?
[15:59] <mandel> asac, the system settings ui showed a bug in the system image updates daemon (it cannot handle several requests at the same time)
[16:00] <asac> thats the bug we wanted to fix for 2 weeks?
[16:00] <asac> e.g. the one you and barry worked on so hard?
[16:00] <ogra_> mandel, asac stop :)
[16:00] <mandel> asac, yes!
[16:00] <ogra_> the s-i issue is server indicated ... its a community server
[16:00] <ogra_> dont worry about that one
[16:00] <b3h3m0th> will Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 P3100 support Ubuntu Touch ?
[16:01] <ogra_> the official server works fine
[16:01] <mandel> ogra_, I'm taking about what the revert would mean
[16:01] <asac> ogra_: so we dont have a problem?
[16:01] <ogra_> asac, not with the current s-i
[16:01] <mandel> asac, so, no problem in updates, problems in app installations over click scope
[16:01] <ogra_> and if mandel's fix works that should be the way forward
[16:01] <ogra_> so we dont need to roll back s-i
[16:01] <asac> sure
[16:02] <mandel> exactly I would not roll back anything, it means rolling back 3 projects!
[16:02] <ralsina_> basically, fixing one bug created another and noone followed the full testplan because everyone loves shortcuts and here we are.
[16:03] <ralsina_> plus, the full testplan implies a device which are somewhat rare in mandel's team
[16:05] <mandel> asac, ogra_ we have a fix, people can be without installing apps a sunday or rollback
[16:05] <mandel> on monday we get this landed and get people to really test it
[16:06] <ogra_> well, "people" shouldnt use -proposed images anyway ... sadly many do :)
[16:07] <asac> mandel: if its just installing apps its fine
[16:07] <asac> as long as we know we can upgrade still
[16:07] <ogra_> yeah, its just click
[16:07] <asac> if not we should block the build asap so nt more people end in the death trap
[16:07] <asac> hehe
[16:08] <ogra_> all fine :)
[16:08] <ogra_> (kind of at least )
[16:08] <mandel> asac, ogra_ yes, is just apps, so for a day they are fine, they have a fix and I can create a ppa if needed with that branch
[16:09] <ogra_> and popey's bug has a workaround (roll back to 212)
[16:09] <asac> yeah, then lets not firedrill here
[16:09] <asac> (or firedrill further)
[16:09] <ogra_> right, i'll see if i can get the fix tested for monday
[16:10] <ogra_> just pugrading y flo to 214
[16:10] <ogra_> *up
[16:10] <asac> someone shoujld already fill in that row in citrain
[16:10] <asac> with MP etc.
[16:12]  * ogra_ thinks the new upgrade animation needs some background music ...
[16:12] <ogra_> dancing circle of friends
[16:15] <ogra_> ok, i can reproduce ... once jenkins spits out a test package i'll install that
[16:15]  * ogra_ is out for a while
[16:19]  * mandel gets back to his siesta
[16:20] <asac> ogra_: enjoy, see you monday
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[19:01] <e-Ra> How to deinstall the ubuntu sdk?
[19:01] <e-Ra> http://askubuntu.com/questions/340770/how-to-uninstall-the-ubuntu-sdk
[19:01] <e-Ra> tried this one, but still can use the ide
[19:02] <Ubuntouche> Does anyone know the best way to change the data.csv file at /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/ with a custom one?
[19:04] <Ubuntouche> Does anyone know the best way to change the data.csv file at /usr/share/demo-assets/contacts-data/ with a custom one?
[20:55] <basketball> rsalveti, i saw that it was updates
[20:55] <justcarakas_> I found a bug in the function setHeader from the html5 toolkit for UI.list how can I report it ?
[22:46] <miseria> "El Tiempo no agrada a todo el mundo, libre albedrio, quien seria yo si pudiera hacer lo que el tiempo no puede?" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*


[07:13] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[07:13] <oSoMoN> and happy Friday
[08:27] <Nafallo> o/
[08:28] <didrocks> good morning
[08:28] <Nafallo> either you've had coffee already, or you have different standards of mornings :-P
[08:29] <didrocks> I have no standard so far
[08:30] <Nafallo> :-)
[08:30] <didrocks> I've slept 2h, went to London HQ yesterday (woke up at 4am), went back home with a delayed flight at 2am, slept 5h…
[08:31] <didrocks> so morning, afternoon, night, unsure at this point :)
[08:31] <Nafallo> :-O
[08:31] <Nafallo> I tend to be grumpy before coffee, and with that schedule I'd probably not even show up today ;-)
[08:32] <didrocks> well, tonight is EOY holidays \o/
[08:32] <didrocks> couldn't take any this year, using them all in one shot!
[08:33] <Nafallo> I was about to say that's a little early :-P
[08:33] <Nafallo> I had the same situation one of the years at Canonical.
[08:33] <Nafallo> ended up having every friday off for november and december IIRC ;-)
[08:34] <Nafallo> and thursday and friday the last week or two :-P
[08:34] <didrocks> heh, short weeks!
[08:34] <didrocks> still need to take some time off today to see the ear doctor
[08:34] <didrocks> travelling with a stuffed ear (can't ear anything) is a bad idea
[08:34] <Nafallo> can't blame the jetlag?
[08:35] <didrocks> no, I already got a heavy cold since last Saturday
[08:35] <Nafallo> ah
[08:35] <didrocks> but I wasn't expecting to have that much pain when the plan started its descent
[08:35] <didrocks> plane*
[08:36] <Nafallo> as long as it's reproducible and you don't need to bring the doctor on a trip somewhere.
[08:36] <didrocks> heh
[08:36] <oSoMoN> didrocks, lucky you (re holidays), enjoy and take care of your family and yourself!
[08:37] <Nafallo> ...and your ear.
[08:37] <didrocks> merci oSoMoN ;)
[08:37] <Nafallo> :-)
[08:37] <didrocks> yeah, that's the part I'm a little bit more concerned about…
[08:37] <didrocks> apparently, there can be damaged travelling in that state
[08:37] <didrocks> we'll see what the doctor says
[08:37] <didrocks> will*
[08:45] <willcooke> ahoy
[08:45] <oSoMoN> morning willcooke
[08:48] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:49]  * didrocks goes to the doctor, bbl
[08:52] <willcooke> l8r didrocks
[08:58] <doko> willcooke: cdbs and subversion are now demoted
[08:59] <willcooke> doko, super, thanks very much
[09:13] <oSoMoN> wife and daughter are feeling unwell, I'm taking them to the doctor, bbiab
[09:25] <Nafallo> morning willcooke
[09:26] <willcooke> morning Nafallo
[11:09] <willcooke> didrocks, I think I remember you talking about the shortcut keys on window management previously.  e.g. you hit alt-space to open the window menu and then in U7 you could hit "m" for maximise etc...  That doesn't work in G-Shell, is that something we can fix?
[11:13] <didrocks> willcooke: I think it should be fixable, probably just an oversight, mind logging a bug/trello card to add that to our backlog?
[11:13] <willcooke> didrocks, sure thing
[11:13] <didrocks> shouldn't be a huge task
[11:13] <didrocks> (ofc, no guarantee, blablabla)
[11:14] <willcooke> natch :)
[11:15] <didrocks> OR, I'll just use the excuse I was deliriously blabbing due to be back home at 2am yesterday :p
[11:15] <willcooke> :))
[11:15] <willcooke> Glad you made it home ok, it started snowing when I got home
[11:15] <willcooke> (for about 10 mins)
[11:15] <didrocks> yeah, it was snowing in Lyon as well
[11:15] <didrocks> and when arrived, we waited for an additional 10 minutes on the plane
[11:16] <didrocks> "waiting for the police to be at the border kiosk"
[11:16] <didrocks> *frustration* :p
[11:17] <didrocks> for you, despite the small snow and taking the train, everything uneventful?
[11:17] <willcooke> yeah, no problems at all
[11:18] <willcooke> met an old friend for a beer at the train station
[11:18] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1735708
[11:18] <didrocks> nice!
[11:18] <didrocks> and thx
[12:00] <willcooke> andyrock, just going through the meeting notes for the news letter.  Is your gdu work to stop snaps showing up as drives?
[12:00] <willcooke> and if so, have you got a link handy?
[12:01] <willcooke> andyrock, ignore, found it:  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790279
[12:17] <andyrock> willcooke: I'm updating the MP after the review
[12:17] <andyrock> should be merged next week
[12:17] <willcooke> sweet
[12:18] <andyrock> we cannot apply the same solution in xenial
[12:18] <andyrock> I'll propose a simple workaround as distropatch
[12:19] <andyrock> the main reason is that it's required a newer version of libmount
[12:19] <andyrock> and backport it does not sounds like a good idea
[12:20] <willcooke> andyrock, ack +1
[13:50] <kenvandine> willcooke, they finally firmed up the snapcraft summit details, but if i went the most i could stay is 2 days
[13:50] <kenvandine> i'd need to leave early wednesday to make it to brussels in time
[13:51] <kenvandine> so popey asked me if i could send someone else from my team, maybe jamesh
[13:52] <kenvandine> jamesh to seattle isn't to bad of a trip
[13:58] <willcooke> kenvandine, sounds like a good plan, if he's happy to
[15:32] <Trevinho> hola amgos!
[15:32] <Trevinho> amigos*
[15:33] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[15:34] <willcooke> hey Trevinho
[15:34] <Trevinho> hi didrocks, willcooke
[15:44] <Trevinho> kenvandine: hey, would you mind to publish again https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2841 ?
[15:44] <Trevinho> kenvandine: as unity-control-center had a changelog issue and SRU team had to reject
[15:47] <oSoMoN> hey Trevinho
[15:50] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[15:58] <kenvandine> Trevinho, done
[15:58] <Trevinho> kenvandine: thanks, I might need to get another publish though... I didn't noticed willcooke email on neko's
[15:58] <willcooke> :) soz
[15:59] <Trevinho> willcooke: cmon! :-P
[15:59] <willcooke> :DDD
[15:59] <willcooke> you crazy
[15:59]  * Trevinho looks for excuses not to rebuild, republish, re-sru-approve again that package :-D
[16:02] <kenvandine> :)
[16:47] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone
[17:58] <willcooke> night all
[17:58] <willcooke> happy weekend!


[17:46] <kwwii> good morning
[17:46] <iainfarrell> evenin' ;)
[17:49] <kwwii> hey bug
[17:49] <kwwii> erm
[17:49] <kwwii> bud
[17:49] <kwwii> you are not that bad :P
[17:53] <thorwil> kwwii: glad you still exist. and you just caused the first words of iainfarrell i ever saw here
[17:53] <iainfarrell> I'm a long time lurker, first time caller
[17:57] <thorwil> now that the channel is action-packed, i have to leave for dinner!
[18:03] <kwwii> thorwil: lol, nice
[18:03] <kwwii> thorwil: trust me, I am alive and well...just been travelling ;)
[18:04] <kwwii> thorwil: hey, I might have someone who needs a logo for their company, can I point them to you?
[18:28] <thorwil> kwwii: oh yes, you can! :)


[07:18] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:10] <icey> hey jamespage - how do you feel about this patch: https://git.launchpad.net/~chris.macnaughton/ubuntu/+source/ceph/commit/?id=c38fcd16985e06cd343ef31b677c99a8d4e2791a
[11:13] <jamespage> icey: that disables the error for format-security for the specific code blocks raising this issue as a false positive?
[11:14] <jamespage> the end part of the patchlooks a little broad in scope if that is the case as the snprintf call is covered by it as well?
[11:32] <icey> jamespage: I can condense them down more if we want, the second one covers the two occurences in that file but I could absolutely patch it in three places :)
[11:42] <icey> jamespage: my main question is more related to the approach, I'm not _super_ excited to be patching those bits but it does make it build
[13:28] <RiFo> Hello, i got a problem with rsync. (from one ubuntu server to the next) The login succeeds but i keep getting 'broken pipe' ('unexplained error'). Any idea what the cause could be. It happends during the first step"receiving incremental file list".
[13:33] <RiFo> https://pastebin.com/4NYFLstv
[14:15] <mybalzitch> no permission to write?
[14:22] <frickler> RiFo: can you also share the command you are using? are you running it on the source, the destination or a third host?
[14:24] <RiFo> Running from the destination: > rsync --verbose  --checksum --recursive --update --links --perms --times --compress --port=50022  --progress --partial <host>: ~<user>/folder
[14:25] <RiFo> i tried without -progress --partial first
[14:26] <RiFo> i usually would run this from cront > rsync --quiet  --checksum --recursive --update --links --perms --times --compress -port=<port> <host>: ~<user>/folder
[14:27] <RiFo> and it used to work until i reinstalled the destination machine (due to hardisk failure)
[14:30] <RiFo> setting ServerAliveInterval in the ssh config seam to have fixed it
[14:30] <RiFo> thanks anyways frickler
[15:21] <icey> hey jamespage - do you know if it's possible to run sbuild and _not_ enable proposed?
[15:28] <icey> looks like a mk-sbuild time thing: mk-sbuild --skip-proposed jammy
[16:51] <jamespage> icey: you might be able to alter the existing source: chroot to disable those rather than having to create a new one