[03:49] <Scott1979> why am i limited to lower esolutions when running dual heads
[03:50] <Scott1979> normally run 1680x1050
[03:50] <shawn146> e_e
[03:50] <shawn146> i love 1680 x 1050
[03:50] <ActionParsnip>  Scott1979: get video drivers installed?
[03:50] <Scott1979> but when i put a 15inch next to it on same card its max res is only 1024x768 i can only use 1360x 765 for widescreen
[03:51] <arbir> i keep reading that Ubuntu locks the version.. what does this mean ?
[03:51] <Scott1979> i am using opensource ati best one for my card
[03:51] <Krezlyn> is there a easier way to be able to read udf files?
[03:51] <NamVet> EastDallas: Dr_Willis & others thank you so much for the help, Happy New Year everybody. Signing Out
[03:51] <Scott1979> i was considering using my onbaord intel with pciexpress card this should work ok
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> Scott1979: you could populate an xorg.conf file and manually set the resolution
[03:51] <Scott1979> two cards two monitors
[03:52] <Scott1979> can u go thru with me action populating the xorg.conf
[03:52] <Scott1979> gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Scott1979: close
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> Scott1979: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:53] <webdawg> Are not the real ATI drivers better then the opensource?
[03:53] <webdawg> ls
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: if its supported then try: www.ati.com
[03:53] <Scott1979> not for the r530 chipset x1300-x1600 in karmix
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: depends on the card
[03:53] <Scott1979> opensource is only one that works
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> Scott1979: then in your case its ll you can use, or the vesa driver
[03:54] <user47331> Does anyone know about scrambled display using intel video on ubuntu 9.10? fedora works fine, but ubuntu has display problems.
[03:54] <Scott1979> yes opensource driver gives me fiull opengl support so i like it
[03:54] <Scott1979> im upgrading vid card soon
[03:55] <jarray52> Inserting a USB device freezes my Ubuntu 9.10 OS. Here's a pastebin of my kern.log file. http://pastebin.com/d21a320fd
[03:55] <Scott1979> was just the card i got when i built this system from left overs
[03:55] <user47331> anyone using intel onboard video with ubuntu 9.10?
[03:55] <christianpiper77> join #zombiesquad
[03:56] <faileas> i have a custom install of ubuntu - xorg intel and its deps, icewm, xde and swiftfox. I'm trying to start a ssh forwarded session of swiftfox from another system - which has the plain vanilla firefox version in the repos- with ssh -x [ipaddress] and then starting swiftfox from command line. When i start it though, it opens up the local copy of firefox instead of the copy of swiftfox on the other box. Any ideas?
[03:56] <Krezlyn> can someone tell me how to mount the cd device, i have to mount the cd as root
[03:56] <christianpiper77> Ack, this doesnt work like that.. sorry! New IRC client....
[03:56] <ZaNeIuM> how do i check for running programs to use the kill command
[03:56] <christianpiper77> Sorry all, bye now.
[03:56] <jarray52> ZaNeluM: ps -e
[03:56] <faileas> user47331: yeah, it works perfectly with a intel x3100. I'm running a different, non standard config on a 855 gma too
[03:56] <Scott1979> action this is my current xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/350227/
[03:56] <faileas> ZaNeIuM: ps aux | grep somestring
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: ps -ef | grep something
[03:57]  * ActionParsnip uses the linux standard :)
[03:57] <Scott1979> but i should be able to run both onbaord and pciexpress card at same time yes
[03:57] <faileas> then pick out the process number. If its an x programme, you can use xkill. Alternately htop has a nice cli interface for killing things
[03:57] <Scott1979> i know i have my onboard turned off i should try
[03:57] <ranjan> hello every body can any body on this network can tell me in which directory usually the incomplete  files are stored wile in the phase of downloading using Downloader for X
[03:58] <faileas> Scott1979: iirc, no, one at a time i think
[03:58] <isolat3dsh33p> bash question: Does, the semi-colon after break statement « break; » required? What's the purpose of it if it's not required?
[03:58] <Scott1979> so u think i can use both
[03:58] <Scott1979> i have in windows before
[03:58] <webdawg> How do I find the model of my card
[03:58] <mkquist> anyone using a touchscreen with ubuntu?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: sudo lshw -C display
[03:58] <jarray52> isolat3dsh33p: The semicolon separates distinct commands. You can type each and hit enter instead.
[03:58] <webdawg> I just did a lspci
[03:58] <webdawg> i think
[03:59] <webdawg> ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300 Pro]
[03:59] <Scott1979> yeah i have a rv530 x1600
[03:59] <webdawg> What do you think ActionParsnip
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: lshw gives you more info but: lspci | grep -i vga   will tell you too
[03:59] <isolat3dsh33p> jarray52: thanks :)
[03:59] <webdawg> What driver should I use?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: check the ati site, its in the top right on the first page
[03:59] <webdawg> I am sure I could find the driver on the site.
[04:00] <webdawg> But the thing is should I just download and install?
[04:00] <webdawg> How do I revert back if it messes up something.
[04:00] <webdawg> ??
[04:00] <Scott1979> so if u using 9.10 karmic the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver is the only one that works it is the 9.3 catalyst driver made from xorg
[04:00] <webdawg> What are you talking about Scott1979 ?
[04:00] <Scott1979> 9.3 catalyst for thses card do not work in karmic
[04:00] <Scott1979> xorg to high
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: you can remove the package from the system
[04:00] <webdawg> what cards.
[04:01] <webdawg> I have a x1300
[04:01] <Scott1979> i have tried the 9.3 catalyst driver
[04:01] <Scott1979> u can only use it in ubuntu 8.10
[04:01] <webdawg> On your x1600
[04:01] <jarray52> Inserting a USB flash drive freezes my Ubuntu 9.10 OS. A USB mouse or keyboard works fine. Here's a pastebin of my kern.log file. http://pastebin.com/d21a320fd  Any suggestions?
[04:01] <Scott1979> yes
[04:01] <arbir> are versions locked down in the desktop edition ?
[04:01] <webdawg> So how does that apply to my x1300
[04:01] <Scott1979> not work for karmic unless u downgrade the xorg
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: appears to be supported: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.7&lang=English
[04:01] <arbir> or is it only in the server edition ?
[04:01] <Scott1979> it is in the same driver set
[04:01] <Scott1979> 9.3 catalyst
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> webdawg:  Scott1979 says xorg version is too new though and ati havent caught up yet
[04:02] <webdawg> Scott is it worth the downgrade?
[04:02] <Scott1979> thatnk u action
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: i dont use ati so can't report from first hand use
[04:02] <Scott1979> no no
[04:02] <Scott1979> opensource runs fine
[04:02] <webdawg> Not on mine.
[04:02] <webdawg> I have some checkbox artifacts.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> 100% nvidia here, xzero issues ever
[04:02] <Scott1979> do u not get compiz
[04:03] <webdawg> The the sliders like the one in vlc has an artifact
[04:03] <webdawg> its not bad though.
[04:03] <Scott1979> yeah im going to upgrade to nvidia gts250
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: tried the vlc ppa?
[04:03] <Scott1979> it is the low power of the x1300
[04:03] <Scott1979> mine is just enough with the x1600
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[04:03] <xdrr> ActionParsnip: W00t to Nvidia
[04:03] <webdawg> Why not downgrade?
[04:03] <Scott1979> x1300 is a budget card
[04:04] <Scott1979> i have x1600pro
[04:04] <arbir> test
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> !test | arbir
[04:04] <Scott1979> cause u might break for other apps
[04:04] <arbir> :-) hahaha thanks ActionParsnip
[04:04] <Scott1979> if u want it would be better to use 8.10
[04:04] <webdawg> Can I use an old catalyst driver Scott1979 ?
[04:04] <arbir> ActionParsnip: do packages get locked down in the desktop edition ?
[04:04] <Scott1979> no
[04:05] <Scott1979> not on karmic web
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> arbir: how do you mean?
[04:05] <Scott1979> ill show u the driver website hang on
[04:05] <webdawg> Thanks.
[04:05] <webdawg> ActionParsnip: I have VLC installed why did you post me that link?
[04:05] <arbir> ActionParsnip: i have been deciding a server , if i should go ubuntu or debian.. now i read, that with ubuntu server, Ubuntu locks the version..
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> webdawg: thats possibly a newer version
[04:06] <webdawg> IC.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> arbir: no, you can use the upgrade tool to upgrade the version
[04:06] <Scott1979> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:06] <Scott1979> go here web
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> arbir: debian uses rolling upgrades
[04:06] <arbir> ActionParsnip: so you mean, my server would be a rolling release model ?
[04:07] <arbir> ActionParsnip: no dist upgrades after every 6 months ?
[04:07] <Scott1979> what xorg does karmic use
[04:07] <tyler_> ey everyone. I am having some strange issue with jockey (aka Hardware Drivers) not activating my driver even though it is showing the correct one. Its for an ATI/AMD FGLRX driver
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> arbir: pretty much
[04:07] <Scott1979> 7. sumthing
[04:07] <Scott1979> haw do we find this
[04:07] <arbir> ActionParsnip: aaah.. that sounds good... i am always scared of dist-upgrades
[04:07] <Scott1979> i just know we to high in karmic
[04:07] <arbir> ActionParsnip: but other wise, essentially... how is debian server diff from ubuntu server ?
[04:08] <webdawg> Scott1979: I thought that was the one I should not install
[04:08] <webdawg> ?
[04:08] <General1337> hey
[04:08] <Scott1979> yeah its not
[04:08] <sunil> how to play RIFF audio files
[04:08] <General1337> I'm looking to buy a wireless card
[04:08] <Scott1979> this is the one u can use in ubuntu 8.10
[04:08] <General1337> anyone know a decent one compatible with ubuntu?
[04:08] <Scott1979> but not in karmic
[04:08] <Scott1979> but see how the x1300 and x1600 are in same set drivers
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> arbir: you'd have to read online, uits a vast subject
[04:09] <arbir> ActionParsnip: i have been googling googling with no clear hits.. do you have any interesting links ?
[04:09] <sunil> how to play RIFF audio files??????
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> arbir: not that i know, i'd be websearching like you can, maybe someone in #debian can assist
[04:09] <arbir> ActionParsnip: hmmm.... sure, i can ask there. thanks a ton!
[04:10] <dinghy> sunil, google it
[04:10] <Dr_Willis>  sunil  try playing them in mplayer or vlc ?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !google | dinghy
[04:10]  * arbir loves smplayer
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> sunil: get real player or helix installed, should be ok
[04:11] <webdawg> Hmm.  I have 9.10...karmic.
[04:11] <webdawg> Scott1979: can I not downgrade the xorg server?
[04:11] <goose> I can no longer view my server via SSH/Nautilus, when clicking on the bookmark or trying to connect manually (Via Places > Connect to server...) I get: "ssh program unexpectedly exited"
[04:12] <webbb82> i wanted to tesy out kde 4.4 but after testing it i want to go back to the stable 4.3 but even after i removed the  kde4.4 repo and update  all i can get is 4.4 even after removing the repo
[04:12] <Scott1979> i havenet tried downgrading myself and proerly wont web
[04:12] <sunil> how to install mplayer or vlc
[04:12] <Scott1979> i am happy with performance on opensource
[04:13] <sunil> how to get real player or helix on my pc???
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> sunil: sudo apt-get install smplayer vlc             will install both
[04:13] <ubuntu_> can someone help me intall ubuntu on my computer please ?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> !info helix
[04:13] <Scott1979> i only just hook up a second monitor iand i think because the resolutions are so far apart from widscreen to 4:3 that i am limited to resolution matches
[04:13] <lufis> Just downloaded the latest karmic koala ISO and burned it. Booted, and got nothing but a black screen after the grub menu. Any ideas?
[04:13] <Scott1979> it says i am running a virtual resolution
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> sunil: if you add the medibuntu repo you can install realplayer from that
[04:14] <webbb82> is kde 4:3.5.9-ubuntu  version 4.4 or 4.3\
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  ive never seen much of a need for 'realplayer' every realplayer file ive ever found i could play in vlc or mplayer.
[04:14] <jillsmitt> is there something to speak text i wrote? i mean in ubuntu 9.10 repos
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  and mplayer and vlc are in the repos.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> jillsmitt: espeak
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  and the w32codecs pack from medibuntu may be needed as well
[04:15] <jillsmitt> ActionParsnip: is this multilangual system?
[04:15] <tpuc> happy new year to everyone................not that i know anyone here but hello all the same
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> jillsmitt: it speaks the text its given
[04:16] <sunil> please follow the url http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m68930bf2
[04:16] <xiong> Trouble with Appearance:Visual Effects in that I can't seem to preserve CompizConfig settings; on login I find Visual Effects, hence Compiz, off. Help?
[04:17] <tpuc> love the compiz advanced effects ...there amazing :D
[04:17] <ray9na> I have a problem.
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> tpuc: gets annoying really quickly
[04:18] <xiong> tpuc, I can do without Wobbly Windows. But I can't seem to retain Compiz at all through reboot.
[04:18] <Scott1979> tyler tyler
[04:18] <Scott1979> u there tyler
[04:18] <tpuc> actionparsnip...you think?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> tpuc: oh teah
[04:18] <Scott1979> having fun tyler
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> xiong: make a script to run: compiz --replace    then make it run in your startup items
[04:19] <Scott1979> hows your team speak now tyler
[04:19] <tpuc> linux just kills windows every way i can see
[04:19] <tos_> hi i have set up a virtual server under ubunti9.10-  running 9.10.. and opened SSH, how can i set the host os to forward SSH requests to the virtual BOX....?
[04:19] <tpuc> i like the wobbley windows
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> tpuc:  those make my wife dizzy
[04:19] <xiong> ActionParsnip, Let me look at that, thanks.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> tpuc:  she does like the compiz zoom feature
[04:19] <inferno_daulXEON> CAN ANYONE help me with VSFTPD?
[04:19]  * ActionParsnip uses openbox :)
[04:20] <MK13> what would be the proper way to mount an image i made of a usb drive partition?
[04:20] <ray9na> I have Ubuntu Netbook Remix Karmic (upgraded from Jaunty because I was told the issue would be fixed in the upgrade) and I sometimes encounter unresizable windows -- mostly dialogue boxes -- and I'd like to know how to fix this problem. It makes it rather impossible to access some essential bits.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  it the image of a single partion/filesystem? or is the image containign multi partiuons?
[04:20] <inferno_daulXEON> MK13: the same way you mount anything else
[04:20] <tpuc> only thing i really miss is winamp with milkdrop ....i like all the visual effects with computers wot can i say call me the room hippy if you like
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> MK13: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> MK13: oops
[04:20] <MK13> Dr_Willis, just of 1 partition
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> MK13: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[04:21] <tpuc> rayna just drop back to the 8.10 or 8.04 version then try it
[04:21] <ray9na> OY!
[04:21] <inferno_daulXEON> Someone Please Help with VSFTPD. I Cant get it to start up!
[04:21] <ray9na> The issue is mostly with 3rd-party software, if that makes a difference.
[04:21] <Scott1979> can somone gte tyler talking or typing
[04:22] <Scott1979> tyler
[04:22] <Scott1979> tyler
[04:22] <Ingsoc> tpuc: check out projectM if you miss milkdrop
[04:22] <FloodBot1> Scott1979: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <tpuc> the 9.10 seems to mess all my favourite settings up at the moment like when im tryin to run a virtual machine to use the windows stuff i miss inside linux
[04:22] <xiong> ActionParsnip, I don't understand why this should be needed. This worked well before. What can I have done to screw it?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> inferno_daulXEON: once you install it, its running and is added to your startup items. You can run: sudo service vsftpd restart    to test
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> xiong: no idea, i hate compiz
[04:22] <Scott1979> sorry floodbot
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> xiong: i used to have to make it run the same way
[04:23] <tpuc> have you looked at the sources that ur updates are coming from for the 3rd party drivers>>>>????
[04:23] <webbb82> why isnt kubuntu desktop in synaptic
[04:23] <ray9na> What would that tell me?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> ray9na: it is
[04:23] <SilverFo1> is it normal for postfix to replace the specified from address with the linux user sending the mail?  I'm sending this mail: http://www.pastebin.ca/1734426, but postfix log files show the from user as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:23] <xiong> I don't care for most of the flashy effects; I only like the Virtual Size, which is similar to multiple desktops but logically only one desktop, so windows can be dragged from one to another and even overlap the boundary.
[04:24] <Scott1979> but im packet lagging tyler cause his friend banned me from his teamspeak server yesterday when we where testing ettercap
[04:24] <Scott1979> so now im using etter cap
[04:24] <inferno_daulXEON> ActionParsnip: I know man. Every time I restart it  - It says Stopping FTP server: vsftpd      no /usr/sbin/vsftpd found running; none killed
[04:24] <ray9na> ActionParsnip: ???
[04:24] <tpuc> 3d cube
[04:24] <tpuc> mmmmmmmmmm
[04:25] <tpuc> you just gota love linux :D makes windows look and act like an oap ...not that i got anything against oaps mind
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> inferno_daulXEON: run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install vsftpd
[04:26] <ray9na> The two main programs that are giving me trouble I got from the Add/Remove Programs app in Jaunty: Fish Fillets (game) and LyX (GUI LaTeX editor).
[04:26] <LJR> I hate the term "Fanboy", but when it comes to Linux I'll tolerate it. =D
[04:26] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, nope on the gnomebaker.  wodim: Cannot blank disk, aborting. straight from gnomebaker
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: sudo umount /dev/cdrom; sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast            will blank the CD
[04:28] <inferno_daulXEON> ActionParsnip: I did that, didn't work. I even tried apt-get remove vsftpd; apt-get autoremove; apt-get autoclean; apt-get update; apt-get install vsftpd
[04:28] <inferno_daulXEON> ActionParsnip: if i
[04:28] <xiong> Okay, let's try another issue: On reboot, I always seem to get Firefox and a Terminal window. These are *not* listed in Startup Applications! True, I use them a lot, but I'd prefer they didn't come up by themselves. What?
[04:28] <inferno_daulXEON> oops
[04:28] <webbb82> where can i find the kubuntu repo i was trying to inastall kubuntu-desktop here is the pastebin  http://pastebin.com/m5fc0facb
[04:29] <inferno_daulXEON> ActionParsnip:  if I "sudo netstat -a | grep ftp" i get nothing
[04:29] <ray9na> xiong: Do you perhaps have a setting that remembers your programs when you shut down?
[04:29] <webbb82> please help http://pastebin.com/m5fc0facb
[04:29] <xiong> ray9na, Could you suggest where I might look for that?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> gnome has some setting somewhere to auto-remember/restore  all open apps.. but  i cant recall where
[04:29] <ray9na> Hold on, I just saw it when I was poking around...
[04:30] <ray9na> xiong: What version are you using? Jaunty or Karmic?
[04:30] <inferno_daulXEON> Im so mad that this doesnt work Im getting ready to wipe the partition clean and install 8.10
[04:30] <xiong> ray9na, Karmic. Upgrading seems to have caused many small issues to crop up.
[04:31] <paissad-hp> does dpkg --build not support links into directories during the build ? .... actually, i did not see any of my linked files from /opt/bin to /usr/bin ..... even if they are present in the building directory
[04:31] <ray9na> xiong: Yeah, I'm starting to regret upgrading from Jaunty.
[04:31] <paissad-hp> dpkg-deb --build i meant, sorry
[04:32] <micah> how do i killall gdm in 9.10?
[04:32] <xiong> ray9na, I'm just not sure what the upgrade *bought* me. I forgot the basic rule: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[04:32] <ganymede> if i use sudo debootstrap kamric /my/partition to install karmic, would i get a desktop karmic or a server karmic? (is there a difference beyond default packages)? i'm trying to get karmic onto a headless server that has no CD drive and can't boot from network via BIOS. so i thought i'd use debootstrap to prepare the HDD from my desktop and just throw it into the server
[04:32] <tpuc> has anyone seen or played with that jap software thats supposed to have bill gates pooping his pantys yet ???... think its called TRON
[04:32] <ray9na> I upgraded in the hopes of fixing a bug, but apparently I wasn't specific enough re: what the problem was.
[04:33] <micah> how do i killall gdm in 9.10?
[04:33] <bazhang> !ot | tpuc
[04:33] <LJR> micah, sudo killall -a gdm is the command, I believe.
[04:33] <tpuc> oh sorry i didnt know
[04:33] <micah> doesnt work in 9.10 says no process of that name
[04:34] <ctmjr> micah: the nice way is /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:34] <tpuc> i thought chat was for social interactions i didnt know i was in a chat dictatorship where i had to stay on one topic...ill try not to think outside the box again ...sorry
[04:34] <micah> ty
[04:34] <ray9na> xiong: Go into System | Startup Applications | Options
[04:35] <LJR> ctmjr, nice way? =O
[04:35] <bazhang> tpuc, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat; here is ubuntu support only. /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <LJR> !ot | tpuc
[04:35] <xiong> ray9na, I have unchecked 'Remember'.
[04:35] <ray9na> xiong: See if that helps. :)
[04:36] <xiong> ray9na, I mean to say, I unchecked that before I whined here.
[04:36] <micah> not working either
[04:37] <LJR> micah, sudo .357mag -hs gdm. =D
[04:37] <ray9na> xiong: Ah. Well, in that case, I don't know what to tell you. The only reason I took a guess at that was because I just happened to stumble upon it while poking around, trying to solve my problem.
[04:38] <jMyles> When apache runs, what user does it run as?
[04:38] <lstarnes> jMyles: usually www-data
[04:38] <xiong> ray9na, I'm starting to think that I need to double-burn my entire system; wipe the machine, repartition, and reinstall. I might try a clean 9.10 first and see what that fixes but otherwise it's back to 9.04.
[04:39] <enhickman> isnt there an apache user
[04:39] <ray9na> xiong: Perhaps. Although in my case, I only have a 9.04 installer. I suppose I can make a 9.10 installer.
[04:40] <spursncowboys> Hi everyone. I'm trying to do xinerama where my monitor stretches to both screens. I have a hdmi connected tv and a dsub connected monitor.
[04:40] <ray9na> But I have a feeling it won't solve my problem. I'm tempted to do a clean re-install of 9.04. I don't like 9.10, aesthetically.
[04:40] <ray9na> I liked the look and feel of 9.04 a lot better.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> spursncowboys:  and your video card(s) are ?
[04:40] <xiong> Here is what broke with Karmic install: (1) Wine (2) Compiz (3) login screen options (4) XML::SAX (5) Edit Menus (6) indicator-applet-session -- at least
[04:41] <spursncowboys> nvidia gt 220
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. look and feel? cant say that ive notuiced muich differance.
[04:41] <ray9na> Wine didn't work right for me in Jaunty.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> spursncowboys:  install the nvidia drivers  and ran the nvidia-settings tool yet? it lets you configure the 2 monitors.
[04:41] <Blue1> xiong: i have no issues except for compiz - but that's never worked right day 1
[04:41] <tpuc> wine did that with me
[04:41] <snake> How can I edit the GRUB bootloader so their is an image behind the selection box?
[04:41] <webbb82> can someone PLEASE take a look at this paste bin and see why i cant install kubuntu desktop it just says it needs this but this cant be installed  http://pastebin.com/m23bbea6f
[04:41] <snake> (If i can)
[04:42] <xiong> Wine worked well enough for me. Now it seems to have lost track of its apps. Perhaps a reconfig-reinstall of some sort...
[04:42] <spursncowboys> Dr_Willis: yes. The best I can get is where all the windows will be on my hdtv and just the background on my monitor
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> snake:  for grub2 you place a proper image  in a location the configs look for. I think the grub2 wiki pages gives details. Its not too hard.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | snake
[04:42] <xiong> Blue1, I'd be happy to forget most of Compiz. I don't need the cube or wobbly. I do like very much having a large Virtual Size.
[04:42] <Burzmali> Good evening, is there a documented way for mounting combo audio/data CDs?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> spursncowboys:  thats odd.. cant drag windows over to it? You do want to enable twinview. Not seperate X displays
[04:42] <ray9na> Does anyone know how to get 3rd-party software to respect the fact that it's on a 10-inch netbook?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> ray9na:  clarify what you mean. by 'respect'
[04:43] <Blue1> xiong: the day one problem is that you can't drag anything from one workspace to another
[04:43] <Blue1> if you use metacity =- it works fine
[04:43] <snake> Dr_Willis: thanks
[04:43] <spursncowboys> Dr_Willis: Oh ok. Twin view. What do you mean by dragging windows?
[04:43] <xiong> Blue1, That is what I *can* do with Compiz. Not workspaces but something else, which is not clearly given a name.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> spursncowboys:  i drag a windoqw from monitor #1 to the right.. it then goes to monitor #2 here.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> spursncowboys:  my 2 monitors are one WIIIIIDDDEEEE desktop :)
[04:44] <ray9na> Dr_Willis: The problem is some dialogue boxes or other spawned windows that cannot be resized and are too tall for the screen, thus making it impossible to access very important bits (such as OK buttons) at the bottom.
[04:44] <Blue1> xiong: well with compiz enabled and the mouse hovering over a work space it says click to start dragging - umm no that doesn't work...
[04:44] <xiong> CompizConfig:General Options:Desktop Size -- leave Number of Desktops = 1 but set Virtual Size to 4 x 2
[04:44] <Scott1979> u still in action
[04:45] <spursncowboys> Dr_Willis: Oh ok. I'll try.  You can alt-click and drag most of them Upward so you can get to the buittons
[04:45] <tpuc> its even wilder when the 2nd monitor is a 52incher on the living room wall :D
[04:45] <xiong> Blue1, That feature never worked for me but I'm able to drag windows directly.
[04:45] <Blue1> xiong: no that's not what I am talking about -- you can't drag an item from one work space (desktop) to another
[04:45] <xiong> Directly as opposed to by proxy.
[04:46] <xiong> Blue1, It depends on how you set Desktop Size. See my last...
[04:46] <ray9na> Dr_Willis: But I can only drag until I get to the top of the screen, which doesn't give me much more access. Sometimes, it isn't enough.
[04:46] <Blue1> xiong: to me workspace and desktop are synonomous terms --
[04:46] <adarsha> in compizconfig, if i increase the number of desktops, how do  i switch between desktops?
[04:46] <tpuc> bottom right corner
[04:46] <ronald> how to install dream weaver in ubuntu 9.10?
[04:46] <ray9na> And I'm afraid that if I let go, the title bar will become inaccessible and I'll be stuck.
[04:46] <xiong> Blue1, adarsha, Part of the problem is terminology. Set Number of Desktops =1.
[04:46] <Blue1> adarsha: you can just click on the desktop in the desktop switcher
[04:47] <bazhang> ronald, check the appdb. help in #winehq
[04:47] <xiong> Set Virtual Size to however many [multiples] you want.
[04:47] <Blue1> xiong: no that's not the problem
[04:47] <bazhang> !appdb | ronald
[04:47] <adarsha> Xiong: there are different settings for number of desktops and workspaces
[04:47] <Blue1> xiong: I have 4 workspaces
[04:47] <spursncowboys> Dr_Willis: It worked. The only problem I have is that they all start on the tv, and I have to drag them to the monitor. I want the opposite.
[04:47] <adarsha> Blue1: i'm talking about desktops in compizconfig, not workspaces.  i think they're different
[04:47] <Blue1> xiong: it works correctly in metacity
[04:48] <xiong> It's difficult when the language is inconsistent.
[04:48] <DarX> Ive got some google wave invitesto give out. Would anyone like one? PM me.
[04:48] <Blue1> adarsha: what's the difference between a workspace and a desktop?  maybe semantics --
[04:49] <bazhang> DarX, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:49] <ray9na> Is there a way in Jaunty or Karmic (preferably Jaunty, since I'm liking that better than Karmic) to tweak settings so that unresizable windows are resizable?
[04:49] <adarsha> xiong: yeah, setting no of desktops to 1 works, but if i set it to 2, i got stuck. there was no panel, even right click wasn't working
[04:49] <DarX> sorry bazhang, got it
[04:50] <adarsha> Blue1: even i had thought that they're the same, but compiz seems to treat them differently.
[04:50] <Blue1> adarsha: apparently so --
[04:50] <xiong> adarsha, I did the multiple desktops thing. You can scratch up another desktop by using alt-f2 to open a terminal, then running gnome-panel, then going from there.
[04:50] <Sabre-night> Mmk, so I'm having connection issues. it seems i cannot hold an internet connection, but when i open my virtual machine (Windows XP) i seem to have near perfect connection, no random disconnections like ubuntu seems to give me. both windows and ubuntu use firefox
[04:50] <Sabre-night> any advice?
[04:50] <adarsha> xiong: thanks, i'll give it a try..
[04:51] <jillsmitt> if i use anjuta, what version of Glade Designer need i?
[04:51] <ray9na> Sabre-night: What version of Ubuntu, what kind of computer, and is this wireless or wired?
[04:51] <optimizer> is ther esomething like syndaemon; but for the keyboard; i.e. kill the laptop's keybaord instead of jsust mousepad?
[04:51] <spursncowboys> Dr_Willis: Thanks for all the help
[04:51] <ZaNeIuM> what is the r for in cp -rv
[04:52] <Sabre-night> ray9na,  9.10, uh its a dell dimension 3000, and wired
[04:52] <Sabre-night> ray9na, desktop*
[04:52] <xiong> adarsha, You can, surely; but I advise against it. Multiple [whatevers] using Compiz Virtual Size (and keeping Number of Desktops = 1) has always worked for me. My only issue today is that Metacity seems to knock Compiz out after reboot.
[04:52] <webbb82> i am trying to install kde but when i do i just get a bunch of broken packages error like 160 of them  what am i doing wrong
[04:52] <snoopy_> when i open up counter strike it tells me "OUT OF RANGE" how can i default it so it can fit on my screen []:
[04:52] <xdrr> ZaNeIuM: recursive?
[04:52] <snail> ZaNeIuM,  recursive, it copies the folders as well
[04:52] <ZaNeIuM> thx
[04:52] <enhickman> cp --help for all the options
[04:53] <ray9na> Sabre-night: No clue, then, sorry. It's just that I'm on an Acer Aspire One netbook and having trouble with 9.10 and wireless.
[04:53] <ray9na> Sabre-night: Someone had told me it may have something to do with driver compatibility.
[04:54] <Sabre-night> ray9na,  i see,
[04:54] <szymi> more than  likely is, I know a lot of people that have that problem
[04:54] <adarsha> xiong: hey, compiz is not allowing me to increase the no of desktops. (it is locked at 1)
[04:54] <webbb82> i am trying to install kde but when i do i just get a bunch of broken packages error like 160 of them  what am i doing wrong  here is the error i get  http://pastebin.com/m23bbea6f
[04:55] <webbb82> pleease help
[04:55] <BLOODCLAW> is there a way i can run "/etc/init.d/apache2" w/o typing the whole path?
[04:55] <xiong> adarsha, I have no clue about that.
[04:55] <ray9na> Well, I'm gonna do some more desperate Googling, see if I can find anything at all.
[04:55] <xiong> I did say I didn't recommend it.
[04:55] <adarsha> xiong: it happened after i upgraded to karmic.
[04:55] <Sabre-night> can anyone help with my problem, Ubuntu internet connection issues, while a virtual machine hosted from ubuntu has perfect connection
[04:56] <szymi> ray9na, is ubuntu the only linux distro you have used or have you tried others?
[04:56] <snake> How can I tell what my hard drive ID is?(example: sda1)
[04:56] <xiong> Some upgrades add features; some improve stability. I haven't figured out which one Karmic is.
[04:56] <pure_hate> service apache2 start
[04:56] <ZaNeIuM> can soneone show me a link to what the color codes meen when i use the ls command
[04:56] <ronald> how to open in browser the php file?
[04:56] <adarsha> xiong, :)
[04:56] <enhickman> webbb82: you might try changing your mirror is software sources
[04:56] <ray9na> szymi: I'm new to Linux, so I was told to go with Ubuntu.
[04:56] <pure_hate> BLOODCLAW: service apache2 start
[04:56] <ZaNeIuM> i see a multi colored file green/blue whats this about?
[04:56] <xiong> Jaunty was an excellent upgrade; it solved about a half-dozen tricky system issues for me.
[04:57] <snail> snake, df should tell you , i don't know if that's the 'official' way
[04:57] <MK13> Dr_Willis, inferno_daulXEON , ActionParsnip, thanks for the help
[04:57] <webbb82> what about software sources?
[04:57] <ronald> how to open in browser the php file?
[04:57] <snake> ZaNeIuM: go to the actual folder and compare.
[04:57] <xiong> Got to experiment with reboot; bye.
[04:57] <adarsha> xiong: well, there seems to be some improvement in the appearance, ;-)
[04:57] <snake> thanks snail
[04:57] <Tiders> Whats the command to load a module again
[04:58] <pure_hate> modprobe
[04:58] <ronald> how to open in browser the php file?
[04:58] <enhickman> webbb82:  if its having trouble downloading the softwre package you could try a different ubuntu package mirror
[04:58] <ZaNeIuM> snake: huh?
[04:58] <webbb82> enhickman,  what software source  and what mirror  sorry im new
[04:58] <pure_hate> ronald: are you serious? file > open > nameoffile.php
[04:58] <inferno_daulXEON> What do you guys think... my system is effed in the a and I don't know where to start fixing. Which Version should I get? the LTS or Jaunty
[04:59] <webbb82> did u look at the pastebin i posted
[04:59] <enhickman> webbb82: if you click on top menu System > Administration > Software sources
[04:59] <EastDallas> inferno_daulXEON: Karmic
[04:59] <webbb82> i changed it to the main server
[05:00] <inferno_daulXEON> EastDallas: Karmic Broke my system. I really don't think its a great idea
[05:00] <Sabre-night> anyone here able to help with internet conection issues?
[05:00] <inferno_daulXEON> Sabre-night: whats up
[05:00] <enhickman> webbb82: id try that  idk that it will work for sure
[05:00] <snake> ZaNeIuM: If you use the file browser to look at the contents you can just look at the name there and compare it to the terminal ls command stuff
[05:01] <webbb82> no im still getting about 140 broken packages
[05:01] <grantbourque> is qt4 built into ubuntu 9.10?
[05:01] <snake> I know blue means its a directory
[05:01] <grantbourque> If I need to fetch it, where can I get it?
[05:01] <LJR> snake, green is an executable
[05:01] <Sabre-night> inferno_daulXEON, I disconnect from the internet fairly regularly with no notification, and when i browse on a virtual machine (XP) hosted from ubuntu aswell it has perfect internet connection, no random disconnect.
[05:01] <ZaNeIuM> what file browser?
[05:01] <inferno_daulXEON> webbb82:   Can you do "sudo apt-get update --fix-broken"
[05:01] <LJR> ZaNeIuM, what's the issue bud?
[05:02] <pure_hate> grantbourque: aptitude search qt4
[05:02] <snake> ZaNeIuM: there ya go green is an executable...
[05:02] <webbb82> gpg: requesting key 8AC93F7A from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[05:02] <webbb82> gpg: key 8AC93F7A: "Launchpad Kubuntu Updates" not changed
[05:02] <snake> ZaNeIuM: your that much closer to finding out for yourself.
[05:02] <webbb82> i was tryin to add the kde ppa
[05:02] <ZaNeIuM> its a green background with a blue text like_this
[05:03] <ZaNeIuM> only i got it backwards
[05:03] <snoopy_> when i open counter strike my screen goes black and i get a error saying "out of range" help?
[05:03] <enhickman> webbb82: im not sure i understand what your trying to do = )
[05:03] <inferno_daulXEON> Sabre-night: What network manager are you using? Are you using DHCP? Samba? How is your DNS set up
[05:03] <hanophix33> I just installed boxee on karmic, opens but is very extremely slow
[05:04] <ZaNeIuM> LJR i was just wondering what the colors ment when you use the ls command
[05:04] <inferno_daulXEON> webbb82: try to open up Synaptic and clear out the bad keys. Then put the new ones in
[05:04] <inferno_daulXEON> webbb82: you know how to do that?
[05:04] <webbb82> suya
[05:04] <LJR> ZaNeIuM, blue is a directory and green is an executable.
[05:04] <pure_hate> ZaNeIuM: the colors have to do with the kind of file
[05:04] <inferno_daulXEON> webbb82: thats not a word I'm familiar with
[05:04] <pure_hate> excecutable or directory
[05:04] <webbb82> yes
[05:04] <Sabre-night> inferno_daulXEON, i don't know, i would assume whatever is set default on ubuntu 9.10 upon installation. and i don't know a thing about the dns, seeing as it's comcast's doing.
[05:04] <ZaNeIuM> the file is showing both
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM> green and blue
[05:05] <pure_hate> Thats not really possible
[05:05] <inferno_daulXEON> Sabre-night: Are you using DHCP or a Static IP?
[05:05] <LJR> ZaNeIuM, Linux doesn't depend on file extensions (.jpg, .doc, .txt) to tell it what the file is or contains. It uses other means. It lets us know with the colors.
[05:05] <Sabre-night> inferno_daulXEON,  i believe static IP.
[05:05] <pure_hate> ls -la the file
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM> like this .thisisthefile
[05:05] <enhickman> snoopy_: my guess is when you start CS it auto changes your monitor to a refresh rate that is out of the range of your monitor
[05:05] <grantbourque> I don't know which qt4 package I should get
[05:06] <AndChat> With the colors? Explain
[05:06] <pure_hate> grantbourque: then how do you know you need it?
[05:06] <grantbourque> "For Mumble/Murmur 1.1.0 and greater (including SVN), Qt 4.3 is required. For Mumble 1.1.8 or newer, QT 4.4 is required."
[05:06] <inferno_daulXEON> webbb82: OK Try it out. After that if it doesn't work can you try to get the default sources.list
[05:06] <LJR> AndChat, you mean me?
[05:06] <hanophix33> has anyone had success installing boxee on karmic?
[05:06] <Some_Person> something's wrong -- my whole file system is suddenly read-only. I tried to install the "devscripts" package, but something horribly went wrong. http://paste.ubuntu.com/350246/
[05:07] <AndChat> LJR:Yes
[05:07] <hanophix33> or is it better just to go after jaunty if i am doing a dedicated computer to run boxee
[05:07] <LJR> AndChat, I was speaking to ZaNeIuM. I was explaining why the CLI uses colors to tell us what files are/do.
[05:07] <EastDallas> ZaNeIuM: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/where-is-color-of-ls-command-defined.html
[05:07] <Some_Person> During the installation, I got a prompts (blue thing with things to select). It said something about how do you get your mail, and I chose the default option, which was website or something like that
[05:07] <inferno_daulXEON> Sabre-night: try setting up your static IP through the interfaces file.... heres how: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[05:07] <pure_hate> AndChat: generally red= archive blue = directory and green = executable
[05:08] <AndChat> Ok, I see
[05:08] <adarsha> hanophix33: is there a linux version of boxee available?
[05:08] <pure_hate> light blue is a symlink
[05:08] <inferno_daulXEON> On a side note :: MARVEL now officially belongs to DISNEY
[05:08] <LJR> pure_hate, isn't pink a symlink?
[05:08] <hanophix33> adarsha: yes, not for karmic
[05:08] <LJR> inferno_daulXEON, Disney is Satan. True Fact
[05:08] <hanophix33> but they have workarounds
[05:09] <pure_hate> LJR: think it may depend on term options as well
[05:09] <LJR> pure_hate, Gotcha
[05:09] <ray9na> Oh, for crying out loud! Nobody told me that when you ALT-click, you can click anywhere in the window, not just the titlebar!
[05:09] <inferno_daulXEON> LJR: Oh I know.... they are going to ruin everything. Then google is going to absorb them into skynet and use thier influence on children to destroy the human race
[05:09] <LJR> ray9na, what part of "grab window" was unclear??? o.O
[05:09] <Some_Person> anyone know how to fix this?
[05:10] <LJR> Some_Person, try to uninstall it?
[05:10] <ray9na> LJR: Because normally, to move a window you grab the title bar!
[05:10] <pure_hate> Some_Person: I fail to see any reason why your files are read only in this paste
[05:10] <pure_hate> how do you know they are read only?
[05:10]  * ray9na is so re-installing Jaunty tomorrow. Ugh.
[05:11] <LJR> ray9na, ah, but you can just click them for that. When you hold a hotkey (mine is super) you can click anywhere.
[05:11] <AndChat> What can I do if I can't get one of my applications(tomboy) to open. Its be like that for days now. Even when I try in terminal it just gives me an error
[05:11] <LJR> *click the title bar
[05:11] <inferno_daulXEON> Some_Person: Backup, Reinstall, and don't do whateer you just did again... EVER
[05:11] <LJR> AndChat, sudo tomboy
[05:11] <Some_Person> pure_hate: well, for one thing, I can't create a file in my home directory
[05:11] <AndChat> I tried unistalling and reinstalling...no diff
[05:11] <pure_hate> AndChat: Giving the error is usually the best way to get a intelligent response
[05:11] <Some_Person> pure_hate: and xchat is complaining that it's read only
[05:11] <LJR> pure_hate, true, true
[05:11] <pure_hate> Some_Person: Have you checked the permissions
[05:12] <LJR> Some_Person, also, check your groups?
[05:12] <Some_Person> pure_hate: furthermore, "dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system"
[05:12] <enhickman> Some_Person: are you sure your disk is not full?
[05:12] <nagpai> i recently updated kernel and i think even grub. I am unable to see and mount my other partitions.  It worked. But I neva had to use sudo for tomboy before
[05:12] <pure_hate> Sometimes if you mess as root in your home directory , root will take owner ship of the files
[05:12] <ray9na> Well, thanks, all. I have to work in the morning, so off I go. *mumble grumble one o' these days i'm gonna get something right on the first go*
[05:12] <LJR> AndChat, sudo = work or I kill you.
[05:12] <mneptok> Some_Person: sounds like / was mounted read-only
[05:13] <Some_Person> mneptok: In the middle of installing a package?
[05:13] <hanophix33> anyone have a suggestion for a good media application less demanding than boxee
[05:13] <LJR> AndChat, please be careful using sudo or allowing applications root access tho.
[05:13] <pure_hate> Sounds to me like you just dont have write access
[05:13] <Some_Person> mneptok: I ran sudo apt-get install devscripts, and that's what broke it
[05:13] <pure_hate> but I am just a n00b
[05:13] <IdleOne> LJR: gksudo GUIAPP is recommended
[05:13] <inferno_daulXEON> mneptok: that doesn't happen unless you mess with fstab using a jackhammer and a pack of c4
[05:13] <AndChat> Pure_hate: I would but I'm using my phone for irc and it would to much to use pastebin thru it
[05:13] <LJR> IdleOne, ?
[05:13] <LJR> pure_hate, you're alright. Don't go putting yourself down.
[05:14] <LJR> Some_Person, you have a LiveCD?
[05:14] <mneptok> inferno_daulXEON: incorrect. it can happen if the volume was not unmouted cleanly and errors are detected upon re-mounting.
[05:14] <IdleOne> LJR: when running a GUI application it is better to use gksudo instead of sudo
[05:14] <Some_Person> LJR: Not at the moment that supports my ext4 partition
[05:14] <AndChat> LJR: why be careful with sudo for apps?
[05:14] <LJR> IdleOne, I did not know that! Thanks for updating me!
[05:14] <LJR> Some_Person, That doesn't matter - do you have one?
[05:14] <Some_Person> LJR: I could probably dig one up
[05:14] <mneptok> Some_Person: you might want to boot off the install media and fsck your / partition
[05:15] <adarsha> hanophix33: yeah, i tried using apt-get for boxee, it gives an error: 'broken packages' i'l try some tweaks..
[05:15] <AndChat> IdleOne: why gksudo instead for GUI?
[05:15] <LJR> AndChat, sudo is a powerful command. you can easily corrupt something using it. IdleOne suggest gksudo for guiapps.
[05:15] <LJR> Some_Person, load it and chroot into your FS and grant write access.
[05:15] <mneptok> AndChat: because that is what it is designed for. sudo is not.
[05:15] <Tiders> Whats a good program Icould use with a Wacom tablet for taking math notes
[05:15] <Scott1979> can anyone help dual haeding whit ati
[05:15] <Some_Person> LJR: Shouldn't this be filed as like a major ubuntu bug? installing devscripts borks your FS?
[05:15] <pure_hate> Some_Person: can you write a file a s root?
[05:16] <EastDallas> Some_Person: have you checked your /etc/fstab for the 'ro' attribute?
[05:16] <Some_Person> pure_hate: No, I can't
[05:16] <AndChat> Mneptok: just don't know the difference.
[05:16] <Some_Person> EastDallas: Already checked fstab. It's fine. By the way, it suddenly went read-only in the middle of installing a package
[05:16] <LJR> Some_Person, can you please 1) Duplicate the problem and 2) provide step-by-step directions on how to dup. the problem so we can play with it and fix it? You need to cover that before you file a bug.
[05:16] <pure_hate> Some_Person: Best thing to do is chroot in with a live disc and clean up the mess that way
[05:17] <IdleOne> AndChat: you really shouldn't need to run any apps with sudo but in the case you do with graphical applications use gksudo as it is safer. exact reasons why I am not sure of but been told many times by more experienced users
[05:17] <Scott1979> dual screen help required 9.10 karmic koala
[05:18] <EastDallas> Some_Person: I found quite a few things when I Google: file system read only dpkg
[05:19] <vick> Hello, any good decent application for drawing diagrams ? I tried dia but it produced messed up results when i export to pdf
[05:19] <AndChat> IdleOne: ok thx, for the advice
[05:19] <vick> I need to draw some diagrams to put in latex document.
[05:19] <LJR> pure_hate, right - Linux is powerful enough that you rarely need to completely reinstall over a gimped OS.
[05:20] <xiong> FWIW, I'm totally unable to get Compiz to come back after reboot; I just have to get it back manually and reset the virtual size each time. Good thing this is Linux and not windoz, so I only have to reboot about once a week.
[05:20] <LJR> I once used chroot off a live cd to find and remove viruses off of windows. =P
[05:20] <pure_hate> LJR: yeps, but most of the time people would rather reinstall than learn how their OS really works.
[05:20] <Scott1979> what card u using xiong
[05:20] <Scott1979> and have u tried to remeber apps running for reboot
[05:20] <LJR> pure_hate, well that's their irresponsibilty and immaturity showing. They need to go back to Windows.
[05:21] <faileas> LJR: actually, you can repair install most OSes. But... eh... sometimes starting afresh is easier
[05:21] <pure_hate> vick: Unfortuanly if you need something like visio linux is laking in that deoartment, if you just need to draw I recomend inkscape
[05:21] <pure_hate> ugh, spell fail
[05:22] <mazda01> ne1 good with conky? i have a calander conky and it's so far over from the right edge of my screen? my x offset is set to only 10. here's the conky config   http://pastebin.com/f69436140  and then heres a pic: http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotqm.png
[05:22] <vick> pure_hate, Thanks.
[05:22] <LJR> faileas, I always found repairing a gimped windows OS to be fairly difficult, depending on the situation of course. Anyway, back on topic!
[05:22] <xiong> Scott1979, Graphics card? Dunno; it's a laptop. I could go dig that up I suppose. This only started recently; I blame the Karmic upgrade.
[05:23] <faileas> LJR: i mostly work on windows boxes ;p. difference is really, I can trust my borked linux boxes to be my own fault ;p
[05:23] <pure_hate> mazda01: thats not the whole config
[05:23] <mazda01> pure_hate, yes it is. you want the calander script?
[05:23] <LJR> faileas, lol! too true
[05:23] <xiong> Scott1979, As for remembering running apps, that's actually another problem. For some reason, Terminal and Firefox want to start after reboot, although I turned *off* 'Remember' and checked that they're not in the Startup Apps list.
[05:24] <xiong> Scott1979, Do you think I should stick something pertaining to Compiz into Startup Apps?
[05:24] <pure_hate> Wow, this is my first time in this channel and its a lot of work
[05:24] <mazda01> pure_hate, there is no calander script that's right. that's the whole script
[05:24] <Scott1979> maybe xiong
[05:24] <Scott1979> not to sure but will help buy looking
[05:24] <DarkAvenger> I have found many security holes in Ubuntu
[05:24] <NamVet> How do I get infra recorder using synaptic anyone can help me?
[05:24] <pure_hate> {alignr 2} is your probelm
[05:25] <xiong> Scott1979, I tried writing a simple bash script, essentially 'compiz --replace' and put that in Startup -- didn't work, didn't do anything.
[05:25] <snoopy_> counter strike still messed up
[05:25] <AndChat> DarkAvenger: how so?
[05:25] <kraitos> can anyone help with file sharing with windows?
[05:25] <faileas> NamVet: infra recorder is for windows isn't it?
[05:25] <DarkAvenger> Snoopy: Try using wine for linux. might help your CS or CS:S work
[05:25] <Scott1979> how are u enabling compix xiong gui or terminal
[05:25] <snoopy_> yeah i am using wine ahah
[05:26] <szymi> Has anyone in here been using this particular IRC for more than a year?
[05:26] <faileas> NamVet: if its ubuntu, brasero iirc is the alternative most people use
[05:26] <rad_sci_guy> hi kriatos  i'm sharing with windows, I might be able to help
[05:26] <mazda01> pure_hate, ok, will look at that
[05:26] <faileas> szymi: on and off.
[05:26] <snoopy_> the only problem i got is that when i open it i hear the sounds and everything but the screen goes black and says "out or range"
[05:26] <xiong> Scott1979, GUI; it seems I have to set Visual Effects in Appearance.
[05:26] <pure_hate> szymi: this channel or this network or what do you mean
[05:26] <Scott1979> try compiz --replace
[05:26] <Scott1979> in term
[05:26] <NamVet> I have K Koala w/ Brasero it isn't burning Img files too well. :(
[05:26] <szymi> faileas, can you pm me I have a few questions
[05:26] <pure_hate> irssi is the greatest irc client ever
[05:26] <DarkAvenger> Snoopy: Then its not Ubuntu's problem, its most likely a problem with Wine/Wine Config, try checking their website, if that doesnt help visit their forums and IRC
[05:27] <Scott1979> it will automatically start compiz fusion.
[05:27] <Scott1979> to enable compiz fusion to work on start up, go to system > prefences > sessions
[05:27] <Scott1979> under the startup programs, add new item and enter and save this code as the command:
[05:27] <xiong> Scott1979, I failed with that approach.
[05:27] <Scott1979> to enable compiz fusion to work on start up, go to system > prefences > sessions
[05:27] <Scott1979> under the startup programs, add new item and enter and save this code as the command:
[05:27] <faileas> szymi: if its ubuntu related, asking here works better
[05:27] <Scott1979> compiz --replace
[05:27] <xiong> Scott1979, I don't *see* 'Sessions'.
[05:27] <pure_hate> xiong: Have your tried using the fusion-icon to manage compiz
[05:28] <Scott1979> start up programs
[05:28] <xiong> pure_hate, Don't understand you fully, sorry.
[05:28] <NamVet> faileas: thank you, i'll try it again. Happy New Year all, goodbye
[05:28] <DarkAvenger> Snoopy_: get in private chat, I'll help u out
[05:28] <Scott1979> nmae it compiz and use command in command line
[05:28] <szymi> I'm fine with Ubuntu, been getting used to it and Linux for a couple months now. Got some questions as far as where to go's and such for DLing movies and such
[05:28] <pure_hate> xiong: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/25/toggle-compiz-with-fusion-icon-in-ubuntu-804/
[05:28] <pure_hate> its a little icon to manage compiz
[05:29] <faileas> szymi: same place you would for any other OS ;)
[05:29] <kraitos> i'm trying to see the share drive that is on a windows pc can anyone help?
[05:29] <xiong> Scott1979, I wrote a shell script and put that in Startup Apps; didn't work. Didn't try just putting the command in directly.
[05:29] <szymi> I used to use mIRC circa 99, but its been since then that i've messed around
[05:29] <szymi> just got this on here about an hour ago
[05:29] <xiong> pure_hate, me looks.
[05:30] <Some_Person> Well, fsck did fix my FS! :)
[05:30] <szymi> I usually get torrents, haven't befriended anyone on an IRC in a long while
[05:30] <Some_Person> But now I have dpkg issues
[05:30] <faileas> szymi: torrents work on linux. codecwise... the w32codecs from medibuntu are pretty much all i need i think
[05:31] <rad_sci_guy> kraitos, are you trying to see the windows share on linux
[05:31] <pch> h
[05:31] <Scott1979> xion use system/pref/startup apps
[05:31] <pure_hate> kraitos: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html
[05:32] <pure_hate> about a thousand hits on google
[05:32] <Scott1979> add and use command
[05:32] <HentaiWolf> heyho ^^
[05:32] <szymi> Word, maybe i'll just trash this package then..  It's pretty tedious troubleshooting this kind of issue, since I have to go through the reboot each time to see what results I get. I'll let you know how it goes.
[05:33] <HentaiWolf> ive got a server i want to install debian on a vm
[05:33] <HentaiWolf> but this cant reach the internet
[05:33] <Scott1979> have u tried removing compiz and reinstalling xiong
[05:33] <HentaiWolf> i dont know why
[05:33] <pure_hate> dpkg --configure libio-stringy-perl
[05:34] <Scott1979> sudo apt-get remove compiz
[05:34] <HentaiWolf> with the same config runs a windows machine
[05:34] <Scott1979> sudo apt-get install compiz
[05:34] <HentaiWolf> and windows is in the internet
[05:34] <pure_hate> apt-get -f install will clean that up to I belive
[05:34] <kraitos> rad_sci_guy, actually i figured it out already. i installed samba and now i can see it. thanks for the help tho.
[05:34] <xiong> Scott1979, No offense but that seems like a shotgun approach. If I'm going to try that sort of thing, I may as well (as I'm contemplating anyway) double-burn my whole system and do a clean install.
[05:35] <Scott1979> do u want me to post the website that recommends this shot gun approch
[05:35] <Scott1979> xiong
[05:35] <pure_hate> HentaiWolf: Are you sure you set up networking in the VM? Can you ping the gateway? Is your interface up? can you see any other PC's on the LAN?
[05:35] <syockit> Some_Person: aiieee some borked configuration you have there. can you try reconfiguring just libio-stringy-perl ?
[05:35] <rad_sci_guy> kratios: that's great.  If you need help auto mounting the drive let me know
[05:35] <Some_Person> pure_hate: nope :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/350255/
[05:35] <xiong> Scott1979, I'm always willing to study.
[05:36] <Scott1979> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740667
[05:36] <Scott1979> 4th post down by clomax
[05:36] <HentaiWolf> pure_hate i tried the same ip sm gw dns as on the gateway the settings are not different its just the ip
[05:36] <pure_hate> Some_Person: dpkg --configure libio-stringy-perl you try that
[05:36] <HentaiWolf> it ends with 61
[05:36] <Scott1979> stringy perls ewwwwwwwwwww
[05:36] <xiong> pure_hate, fusion-icon blows up in a funny way. I get errors in the Terminal when running it from there. The icon installs into the system tray but doesn't react to clicks. Not sure this is a go-ahead.
[05:36] <HentaiWolf> the windows machine ends with 60
[05:37] <Some_Person> pure_hate, syockit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350256/
[05:37] <pure_hate> xiong: I dunnu man, I set up compiz for backtrack which is the distro I develop for so I thought that might help. I am more of a console jokey.
[05:38] <xiong> Scott1979, pure_hate, Thank you for your help. I've already been at this issue several hours; I'd better take a break for now.
[05:38] <m0se5> kde4 -- where can I disable all of these event sounds, such as closing a window, switching IRC channels... I've shutdown everything in notifications all ready.
[05:39] <faileas> m0se5: if its kde you'd want to ask on kubuntu
[05:39] <Some_Person> pure_hate: any other ideas?
[05:39] <pure_hate> Some_Person: Not alot let to try except sudo dpkg --force all --remove
[05:39] <pure_hate> and try again
[05:40] <Scott1979> yes do that xiong u will find it will work when u come back to it
[05:40] <Some_Person> pure_hate: which package(s)?
[05:40] <pure_hate> start with the perl strings and kepp going
[05:40] <m0se5> ask in the kubuntu channel? these channel themes are getting ridiculous. Thanks anyway.
[05:40] <jiraaya> i have an installation manual which says i have to add an alias to modules.conf file in fedora. what is the equivalent file in ubuntu?
[05:40] <syockit> Some_Person: maybe try force removing perl string and reinstalling it
[05:40] <HentaiWolf> http://666kb.com/i/bfh2zumh9f7xojmvu.gif
[05:41] <BLOODCLAW> iceroot: you there?
[05:41] <BLOODCLAW> lstarnes: you there?
[05:41] <pure_hate> jiraaya: /etc/modules
[05:41] <HentaiWolf> http://666kb.com/i/bfh308apd8514ns7u.gif
[05:41] <mithridates> hey guys
[05:42] <mithridates> how can I upgrade ubuntu 8.04 to 9.10?
[05:42] <Some_Person> syockit, pure_hate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350259/
[05:42] <pure_hate> HentaiWolf: ifconfig eth0 up
[05:42] <HentaiWolf> i cant now
[05:42] <BLOODCLAW> anyone wanna help me real quick. just gotta type an url and tell me if the site works.
[05:42] <HentaiWolf> i installed fedora to test
[05:42] <HentaiWolf> ^^
[05:43] <HentaiWolf> i cant install
[05:43] <faileas> BLOODCLAW: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ this is useful for that
[05:43] <HentaiWolf> debian with network
[05:43] <mithridates> how can I upgrade ubuntu hardy 8.04 to 9.10 ?
[05:43] <HentaiWolf> i sais all the time couldnt reach network with my ip
[05:43] <syockit> Some_Person: aiyyaa! looks like you might have to do manual dpkg debugging... look for the post-install script etc. and see why the error occurs
[05:43] <Guest18066> can someone please help me mount a samba share from another ubuntu box, I am just not having any luck right now
[05:44] <HentaiWolf> ip <IP_ADDRESS> SM <IP_ADDRESS> GW <IP_ADDRESS> DNS <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:44] <HentaiWolf> but it dont let me do this setup
[05:44] <wastrel> panels eh
[05:44] <BLOODCLAW> faileas: it says its down... hmm. you sure its accurate? im trying to host a site on apache2 and it looks up. would you mind verifyng it?
[05:44] <HentaiWolf> can i force it?
[05:44] <faileas> BLOODCLAW: hm
[05:44] <pure_hate> Some_Person: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/libio-stringy-perl.*
[05:44] <faileas> ok
[05:45] <pure_hate> then sudo apt-get -f install
[05:45] <Guest18066> can someone please help me mount a samba share from another ubuntu box, I am just not having any luck right now
[05:45] <nagpai> i recently updated kernel and i think even grub. I am unable to see and mount my other partitions. Even my pendrive doesnt get detected
[05:45] <rad_sci_guy> Guest18066:  Hi there. How come you are using samba share with and ubuntu box?  You could use nfs sharing which works really well
[05:45] <mithridates> how can I upgrade ubuntu hardy 8.04 to 9.10 ?
[05:45] <faileas> BLOODCLAW: link it here. if its not a bona fide link... well.. lets hope it is :)
[05:45] <Some_Person> pure_hate: ok, now i was able to remove libio-stringy-perl
[05:45] <BLOODCLAW> faileas: no funny business on it i swear hahaha its just one sentence that says "on the right track." it worked from another computer but thats within the same house as this computer. i wanted to see if an outside source worked
[05:45] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, well I have windows machines too
[05:45] <FactTech> Quick Question: Is there any way to tell Ubuntu that new users should be added to a particular group by default?
[05:45] <faileas> BLOODCLAW: ok, link it
[05:46] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, think you could help me some how :\
[05:46] <mithridates> plz answer my question : how can I upgrade ubuntu hardy 8.04 to 9.10 ?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> BLOODCLAW: if you're trying to host an internet site on your own machine, did you set up port forwarding through your router?
[05:46] <jiraaya> HentaiWolf: thanks. and also is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 the same as the network/interfaces file?
[05:46] <syockit> mithridates: you can do incremental upgrade, or you can backup your system and install freshly
[05:46] <BLOODCLAW> mister_roboto: nope
[05:46] <faileas> lol
[05:46] <faileas> its a local ip address he gave me
[05:46] <mithridates> syockit: how can I do it incrementaly?
[05:47] <rad_sci_guy> Guest 18066:  You can use the samba between ubuntu and windows, but I find my ubuntu to ubuntu machines work better with nfs.
[05:47] <unop> HentaiWolf, that subnetmask looks suspect - are you sure it is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:47] <mister_roboto> BLOODCLAW: then it will look fine for you on your local LAN but nobody can get to it through your router.
[05:47] <HentaiWolf> the win machine runs fine with it
[05:47] <Blue1> is there a way to set default printer orientation (portrait/landscape) in Cups -- if there is, I'm not finding it -- I could in 9.04 but not 9.10.....
[05:47] <HentaiWolf> unop
[05:47] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, ok, assume im clueless
[05:47] <pure_hate> HentaiWolf: Linux != windows
[05:47] <reactor> pure_hate, right :P
[05:47] <unop> HentaiWolf, and what is the default route like on the windows machine?
[05:48] <BLOODCLAW> mister_roboto: hmmm... would i use a specific ip adress, or do i have to port forward... or what would i do? im at a loss
[05:48] <pure_hate> Thats like saying my car runs great on 87 octane gas but my airplane just wont go
[05:48] <HentaiWolf> unop what do you mean?
[05:48] <faileas> BLOODCLAW: port forward to the router
[05:48] <faileas> er from the router to the box
[05:48] <klown> you have an airplane, lucky you.
[05:48] <faileas> then use the router ip address
[05:48] <mister_roboto> BLOODCLAW: you need to log into your router and forward requests to port 80 to the machine hosting your web server
[05:48] <Scott1979> action u still here
[05:49] <mister_roboto> BLOODCLAW: if none of that makes sense, you have a lot of reading to do  :)
[05:49] <HentaiWolf> pure_hate yeah i know but network is the same or not?
[05:49] <BLOODCLAW> mister_roboto: port 80 is blocked by my isp
[05:49] <Some_Person> pure_hate: can you repost the first pastebin I linked to? I need to remove all the dependencies manually of devscripts and don't know what they are
[05:49] <unop> HentaiWolf, on the windows machine, run this command.   route print  -- look at the Gateway for the <IP_ADDRESS> route
[05:49] <Blue1> mister_roboto: cox blocks incoming http requests -- dunno about your isp
[05:49] <HentaiWolf> ok
[05:49] <mister_roboto> Blue1: mine does not  :\    well in that case he's totally screwed
[05:49] <klown> BLOODCLAW, some isp' you can call and request them to unlock it.  and some will do it for a price.
[05:49] <pure_hate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/350255/ that one
[05:50] <Scott1979> actionparsnip can u view my org.conf paste
[05:50] <syockit> mithridates: try running update-manager -d
[05:50] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, how do I do that?
[05:50] <m0se5> #kubuntu's a dead channel... (thanks anyway faileas) ...but kde4 -- Where can I disable all of these event sounds, such as closing a window, switching IRC channels, seemingly every other action really.... I've shutdown everything in notifications all ready.
[05:50] <Blue1> klown: true - but cox won't do it, for fear you're running a feline exploitation site -- (if you get my drift) --
[05:50] <BLOODCLAW> klown: if i dont want to pay a price, cant i just use a random port. say 9999?
[05:50] <pure_hate> BLOODCLAW: If all you neeed to do is test run it on another port
[05:50] <Blue1> klown: there's always port 8080
[05:51] <faileas> m0se5: well i assume some of it is app specific
[05:51] <Scott1979> im running a virtual display of 2384 x 768 how to change
[05:51] <mister_roboto> m0se5: are you using Quassel?
[05:51] <HentaiWolf> unop http://nopaste.info/7d533b14f8.html
[05:51] <pure_hate> BLOODCLAW: but if you isp forbids servers and finds out you have one they will shut of your internet
[05:51] <rad_sci_guy> Guest18066:  on the computer you want to share you'l have to define your share folders in /etc/exports
[05:51] <m0se5> faileas, I've been using gnome for years. same apps.
[05:51] <centHOGG> !Quassel
[05:52] <pure_hate> man this channel is like being at work :-)
[05:52] <jaki> ei
[05:52] <BLOODCLAW> pure_hate: thanks for the heads up. yeah im only testing stuff
[05:52] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, /home/x/Videos/ <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[05:52] <faileas> pure_hate: mine just totally messed up the routing for a few weeks, i don't it was intentional, but if it was it was an inspired way to mess up my server ;p
[05:52] <plustax> im having trouble getting remote desktop working on my desktop. My laptop works fine, but I can't seem to get it to go non-local on my desktop. Anyone help me out?
[05:52] <klown> pure_hate, its a support channel, of course its work ;x
[05:52] <syockit> mithridates: by the way you ought to look for upgrade notes. They may contain precautions regarding upgrading a release version
[05:53]  * pure_hate is not usually this supportive. I have my own channels to support :-) Although helping out a little is nice
[05:53] <faileas> lol
[05:53] <faileas> pure_hate: i usually come for help, not get an answer, and end up helping ;p
[05:53] <rad_sci_guy> Guest:18066:  That looks correct,  I'm not sure what the async is as I have sync in my shares
[05:54] <HentaiWolf> unop still there? ^^
[05:54] <plustax> pure_hate you seem like you know your stuff. Think you can help me out with something?
[05:54] <pure_hate> plustax: I'll try but I can promise anything
[05:54] <klown> ah, the ol "betcha cant" trick :x
[05:54] <unop> HentaiWolf, yes, what kind of a connection does the windows machine have? the one with the <IP_ADDRESS> address?
[05:54] <pure_hate> er cant even
[05:54] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, what do i do to try on the client?
[05:55] <HentaiWolf> jup
[05:55] <Some_Person> pure_hate: now what? http://paste.ubuntu.com/350262/
[05:55] <rad_sci_guy> Guest18066:  now on the client that access the share you have to install nfs server
[05:55] <plustax> pure_hate check pm sir!
[05:55] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, it says it is
[05:56] <klown> did they just update the nvidia 195 package again..its like the 3rd time this week
[05:56] <unop> HentaiWolf, ?
[05:56] <HentaiWolf> unop yes
[05:57] <rad_sci_guy> Guest18066: ok,  Now you need to mount the share in fstab
[05:57] <HentaiWolf> thats the ip of the windows machine
[05:57] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, alright, I have tried that previously with 0 luck to be honest.
[05:57] <unop> HentaiWolf, actually, put on the pastebin the output of   ipconfig /all   -- from the windows machine
[05:57] <HentaiWolf> ok
[05:57] <HentaiWolf> one moment
[05:57] <pure_hate> Some_Person: you nedd to dpkg reconfigure postfix now
[05:57] <TNA5000> helo room, I've opened up the disk usage analizer and I see that my /var/log takes up 89.5GB, is there something I can do quickly to truncate the logs, are there logs I should not truncate? Any help will be very appreciated.
[05:58] <rad_sci_guy> Guest:18066: can  you show me the fstab command?
[05:58] <Guest18066> rad_sci_guy, yea can you open a private message?
[05:59] <HentaiWolf> unop http://nopaste.info/7b2339c128.html
[05:59] <HentaiWolf> there it is
[05:59] <berrybarry> I have a rar with password thats personal files stored my backup files is their a  way to bypass because I forgot it/..
[06:00] <klown> subnet shows <IP_ADDRESS>, not <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:00] <DarkAvenger> -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE -- ROADHOUSE --
[06:00] <HentaiWolf> klown
[06:00] <HentaiWolf> yup
[06:00] <HentaiWolf> it works too
[06:00] <berrybarry> I want to extract a rar file with no password because I lost the password..
[06:00] <DarkAvenger> HentaiWolf is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*
[06:01] <HentaiWolf> ?
[06:01] <DarkAvenger> FloodBot1 is n=floodbot@ubuntu/bot/floodbot * #ubuntu guard bot
[06:01] <unop> DarkAvenger, stop that please
[06:01] <mister_roboto> TNA5000: you should find out what is doing such heavy logging and why. "du -sh /var/log/*" will show the size of the files and dirs at that level.  usually you can truncate an individual file with "> [filename]" as long as the process isn't keeping the logfile open. logfiles are only as useful as the person looking at them for information :)
[06:01] <HentaiWolf> klown i set it up to <IP_ADDRESS> nao =)
[06:02] <Scott1979> can nayone help me with my xorg.conf
[06:02] <Scott1979> its using a virtual resolution
[06:02] <unop> HentaiWolf, well, no, your windows machine reports <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:02] <Scott1979> i want independant resolutions
[06:02] <HentaiWolf> moment
[06:02] <HentaiWolf> xD
[06:02] <Some_Person> pure_hate: well, it wouldn't reconfigure, so I removed it, but all seems well now :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/350264/
[06:02] <klown> HentaiWolf, what is your actual subnet mask?
[06:02] <DarkAvenger> berrybarry: impossible, removing the password will destroy the RAR coding, which will corrupt the file. you'll need a decrypter taht can fudge the password (which takes a long time, and is illegal to possess without a warrant)
[06:03] <kisielk_home> I'm a bit confused about setting up DNS nameservers  for a static IP configuration. The manual online says you should edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand. However, man resolver says you should put in 'dns-nameservers' options in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:03] <HentaiWolf> http://nopaste.info/c5e20251fb.html
[06:03] <DarkAvenger> might need to get mySQL
[06:03] <HentaiWolf> soo thats the standart config for the windows server
[06:03] <kisielk_home> and it seems /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten by resolver from time to time, however I couldn't get the dns-nameservers option to work
[06:03] <klown> HentaiWolf, normally, it is <IP_ADDRESS> unless you changed it (for most routers that is)
[06:03] <HentaiWolf> its not at home the server
[06:03] <DarkAvenger> yep KonsolzeKlown has it
[06:03] <HentaiWolf> its a webserver
[06:04] <Scott1979> klown the subnetmask can be different for differnt ip range
[06:04] <Scott1979> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:04] <Scott1979> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:04] <Scott1979> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:04] <HentaiWolf> i dont understand much of networking
[06:04] <aanderse> doesn't tango icon theme exist anymore?
[06:04] <Scott1979> <IP_ADDRESS> is subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <HentaiWolf> but i think somewhat that runs on windows should be run on linux too
[06:05] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: <IP_ADDRESS> actually
[06:05] <Scott1979> yeah well they are specific to the ip range
[06:05] <Scott1979> not always just one
[06:05] <bdelin88> how would i go about searching through a specific text file (command line), i need to find where the options for 'mcrypt' are.  i know which file it's in, i just need to search within only that file.
[06:06] <unop> HentaiWolf, do you know what IP address range is given to you for use with your servers?
[06:06] <unop> HentaiWolf, <IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS>  would indicate only one
[06:06] <HentaiWolf> i got 4 ips
[06:07] <HentaiWolf> 1 is for the basic system
[06:07] <unop> HentaiWolf, and which address is that?
[06:07] <HentaiWolf> the gateway for the win server
[06:07] <HentaiWolf> is the main server
[06:07] <Scott1979> mister_roboto u are still sorta wrong
[06:07] <unop> bdelin88, grep?
[06:07] <faileas>  bdelin88:  grep maybe?
[06:08] <aanderse> doesn't tango icon theme exist anymore?
[06:08] <Scott1979> <IP_ADDRESS> is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:08] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: a network address of <IP_ADDRESS> with subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS> makes no sense
[06:08] <unop> mister_roboto, actually it does :)
[06:09] <Scott1979> ok go here smart dude
[06:09] <Scott1979> http://www.subnet-calculator.com/subnet.php?net_class=C
[06:09] <TNA5000> mister_roboto: thanks, this is helpfull. Well it looks like /var/log/messages is at 13GB there are other /varlog/messages.#.gz files that are several Megs.  /var/logs/syslogs is at 5GB and /var/log/user.log is 30G. Why are those logs so very large?
[06:09] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: scratch that,   you're right
[06:09] <Scott1979> mister go here
[06:09] <Scott1979> tahnkyou
[06:09] <Scott1979> meathead
[06:09] <FloodBot1> Scott1979: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: lol
[06:10] <Scott1979> i am not a networking server admin for nothing
[06:10] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: but the non-routable network is 192.168 /16
[06:10] <anon_> #kismet
[06:10] <mister_roboto> Scott1979: specifying a /24 subnet doesn't really add value on a home network
[06:10] <unop> mister_roboto, err, <IP_ADDRESS>/16 is still routable - just not on the public internet by virtue of policy
[06:10] <Scott1979> go over your issue in pm mister
[06:10] <HentaiWolf> http://666kb.com/i/bfh3r1waipj96en4q.gif
[06:10] <mister_roboto> unop:  that's what i mean, publicly
[06:10] <HentaiWolf> here a picture of the win machine
[06:10] <Scott1979> yes you are using local ip
[06:10] <mister_roboto> unop:  of course it's routable on a local segment
[06:11] <phaer> I encrypted my ubuntus home folder with encfs per ubuntu installer. Now i want to mount it with encfs command from my archlinux install. "encfs /mnt/.ecryptfs/phaer[.ecryptfs] /mnt/phaer" offers my to create a new container...
[06:11] <anon_> anyone good with kismet here?
[06:11] <unop> mister_roboto, my ISP has those addresses in the core of its network tho
[06:11] <mister_roboto> unop:  otherwise tcp/ip wouldn't work :)
[06:11] <unop> mister_roboto, not true
[06:11] <Scott1979> go to my private chat pm
[06:11] <Scott1979> in private
[06:11] <jiraaya> i have debian 5.0 . kernel version is <IP_ADDRESS>-686 . My netowrk card is not detected. output of lspci - 01:00.0 Realtek Semicondutor Co,, ltd Device 8119 (rev 10).
[06:12] <anon_> anyone?
[06:12] <m0se5> the answer was in ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[06:12] <mister_roboto> unop: it's fine in the core, just not fine to route them over any public router
[06:13] <unop> mister_roboto, that's a contradiction in itself :) but anyway, it's offtopic here
[06:13] <anon_> anyone understand kismet at all?
[06:14] <mister_roboto> unop: what's the contradiction?
[06:14] <faileas> jiraaya: debian is not ubuntu. you'd want to try that
[06:14] <mister_roboto> unop: if a public facing router is forwarding 192.168 addrs, it's broken
[06:14] <faileas> mister_roboto: gah, the faster we move to IPV6, the better
[06:15] <Tiders> Is it wrong to switch to root like one would in CentOS or Fedora instead of using sudo
[06:16] <mister_roboto> unop: i would appreciate it if you tell where the contradiction is. i'm genuinely curious what you mean
[06:16] <unop> mister_roboto, a router on the core of an ISP network is a public router
[06:16] <ribot> hi
[06:16] <roracle> hey there
[06:17] <m0se5> Tiders, just use sudo -s instead of enabling the root account.
[06:17] <mister_roboto> unop if your isp is forwarding 192.168 address traffic to anywhere outside its own private network, they have a serious problem
[06:17] <unop> mister_roboto, this ISP uses private address ranges to support the routing infrastructure - but uses tunnelling/MPLS on top of that to forward IP
[06:17] <Tiders> m0se5, Well I was using sudo -i usually
[06:18] <roracle> i'm having a bit of trouble guys:  audio is not working at all on this fresh install of ubuntu.  it is a computer at my workplace and my boss really wants to get to know how to use it, but the lack of sound makes it unattractive.  where do i start and how do i go about fixing this issue?
[06:19] <roracle> oh yeah, it's ubuntu 9.10, btw.  latest and greatest?
[06:19] <roracle> 32 bit
[06:19] <user6> yul
[06:20] <roracle> i guess i really should put all that into one big question
[06:20] <jan247> hi guys, what's the easiest way to tell if a port is open on some machine. i tend to use telnet HOST PORT but I don't really need to send anything
[06:20] <mister_roboto> unop; these rules are pretty explicity in rfc 1918
[06:21] <pure_hate> jan247: netstat -tap | grep "port number"
[06:21] <pure_hate> To access this dialog, open the desktop System menu, select Preferences and click on Remote Desktop. When selected the following window will appear:
[06:21] <roracle> Sound is not working in Ubuntu 9.10 32bit OR 64bit (neither worked).  I installed this on a computer at work (Dell Optiplex 330) and everything works beautifully except this one issue.
[06:21] <pure_hate> oops
[06:22] <Athar> roracle: if it's an option for you, you could try 9.04, as I heard from a few people that they had audio problems after switching to 9.10
[06:23] <hanasaki> where is the default app for movie player set?
[06:23] <ribot> my running windows dont show in taskbar, can i make them show up?
[06:23] <jan247> pure_hate: looking for something that may connect to a remote machine
[06:23] <roracle> Athar: is there a way to install 9.04 with Wubi?  Will I need an older version of Wubi?
[06:24] <WireWulf> this distro still sucks
[06:24] <unop> mister_roboto, sure, but ask yourself how its network converges when there's an upset in the routing domain - it has to forward routes contained within this private network (but only to routers in its domain). In anycase, it doesn't violate RFC1918 or upset any of its customers private networks by doing this.
[06:25] <unop> anyway, offtopic nonsense
[06:25] <Athar> roracle: I've never used Wubi, but I assume you'll need the 9.04 version
[06:25] <m0se5> Tiders, ya, your right. that's even more the root user because it'll load up the environment variables of the root user if it can. sudo -s just executes the default shell as root. (/bin/bash maybe?) It's used for using sudo over and over without actually switching to the root user.
[06:26] <mister_roboto> unop:  yes, yes,   i agree with all that. i thought the only point was PUBLIC routing. it's not entirely off topic considering the issues raised earlier. and i don't think we're actually disagreeing
[06:27] <Nicekiwi9> ubuntu 9.10 has forgotten i have an audio device, help?
[06:27] <m0se5> hanasaki, right click on a video and it's one of the tabs.
[06:28] <m0se5> hanasaki, correction. right click on a video -> properties. and it's one of the tabs.
[06:28] <sevol> anyone know how I would go about getting my vhost to work on lan?
[06:29] <faileas> sevol: how about a hosts file?
[06:29] <hanasaki> m0se5: all I have is a DVD in the player not a file
[06:29] <sevol> faileas, uh i ahve one
[06:29] <Nicekiwi9> ubuntu 9.10 has forgotten i have an audio device, help?
[06:29] <sevol> <IP_ADDRESS>:80 sex.ff for
[06:30] <sevol> works on my ubuntu box
[06:30] <sevol> but under my windows
[06:30] <sevol> <IP_ADDRESS> works only
[06:30] <sevol> not sex.ff ;[
[06:30] <FloodBot1> sevol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:30] <faileas> add a hosts.txt entry in windows ;)
[06:30] <sevol> kiddig me right?
[06:30] <Nicekiwi9> sevol: have u setup ur hosts file in windows?
[06:30] <faileas> nope
[06:30] <e-i-k-e> hi
[06:31] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, uhhhh i dunno, well windows 7 is my host ubuntu is my guest
[06:31] <e-i-k-e> i there a way to change how nautilus displays the filesize?
[06:31] <sevol> how would i do that?
[06:31] <Nicekiwi9> so it'll be "<IP_ADDRESS>                 sex.ff"
[06:31] <e-i-k-e> in the columns e.g. 6,9MB is not enough. I'd like to have e.g. 6,978MB
[06:31] <Nicekiwi9> or other way round, never member which
[06:31] <nikhil_> can someone give some clues as to how to troubleshoot an ubuntu crash - what log files to start at?
[06:31] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip on the ubuntu box
[06:32] <sevol> where would i put the host file on the windows?
[06:32] <Nicekiwi9> C:\ > windows > system32 > drivers > etc > hosts
[06:32] <hanasaki> dvd will not play... it says something about libdvdcss libdvdcss2 however this is not in the repository.  where is it?
[06:32] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, with quote?
[06:32] <Nicekiwi9> theres a hosts file alreaddy there, depending on ur windows ersion of course
[06:32] <sevol> quotes*
[06:32] <Izinucs> !medibuntu | hanasaki
[06:32] <Nicekiwi9> there should be an example in the hosts file on windows already
[06:33] <m0se5> hanasaki, put the dvd in and an icon will show on the desktop, right click -> properties. open with tab.
[06:33] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, ok give me a sec
[06:33] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, oh yea you are right
[06:33] <hanasaki> m0se5: thanks
[06:34] <Nicekiwi9> the file wont hav an extestion, just open it with notepad and save it without th extention, depending on ur windows version u may need admin rights to edit that file
[06:34] <hanasaki> Izinucs: thanks.. umm so ubuntu cannot play a DVD by default?
[06:34] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, i just remember about taht yea there sohuld be an example
[06:34] <hookah> I'm trying to connect to my windows7 tower via smbclient but it's giving me a NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL. Any ideas?
[06:34] <Nicekiwi9> ^_^
[06:34] <Izinucs> hanasaki: not one that has commercial content..
[06:34] <LJR> hanasaki, it depends on the DVD, but generally no.
[06:34] <m0se5> hanasaki, http://www.medibuntu.org/ or http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[06:34] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, yea i know, i remember trying to bypass a anti-virus back then on windows
[06:34] <Izinucs> hanasaki: or one's that have DRM
[06:34] <LJR> !dvd | hanasaki
[06:34] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, n it required me to edit my host
[06:35] <LJR> Izinucs, do not mention DRM. It makes me cry inside. =(
[06:35] <jj_galvez> is there anyway to reduce mic echo with a webcam mic?
[06:35] <Nicekiwi9> sevol: what u mean?
[06:35] <Izinucs> LJR: like ebook readers.. sad
[06:35] <arghh2d2> General question...i'm out of blank cd's and have only blank dvd's...is it possible to burn a cd iso on a blank dvd?
[06:36]  * LJR cries
[06:36] <gluonman> How can I modify the login window in 9.10?
[06:36] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, nvm
[06:36] <m0se5> jj_galvez, skype does that... or try headphones... move the speaker farther away from the mic?
[06:36] <bullgard> "Most (but not all) programs/packages available with apt-get install will also be available from the Synaptic Package Manager." Which ones does Synaptic not provide?
[06:37] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, thx u very much
[06:38] <Izinucs> bullgard: sorry.. where'd you get that idea.. synaptic is complete and uses apt-get to install typically.. Add/Remove available in some release doesn't have a full list
[06:38] <Nicekiwi9> sevol: no worries xD Movies time w00p w00p! xD
[06:38] <m0se5> bullgard, apt-get and synaptic use the exact same repositories so the available software will be the same.
[06:38] <hookah> trying to connect to my windows7 box via smbclient, but I'm getting "NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL"
[06:38] <Athar> arghh2d2: don't take my word on it, but I think that should work without any problems.
[06:38] <sevol> Nicekiwi9, any good movies you'd recommend?
[06:39] <e-i-k-e> no idea regarding the accuracy for file sizes in nautilus?
[06:39] <hookah> sevol !offtopic
[06:39] <Nicekiwi9> sevol: Avatar, im going to see sherlock homes, looked pretty sweet. District 9 is good or Transformers =)
[06:39] <hookah> !offtopic sevol
[06:39] <bullgard> Izinucs, m0se5 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[06:39] <Nicekiwi9> hookah: spoilsport =)
[06:40] <self> hookah: you may need to allow a port to be open in firewall or network settings.. since it is similar to vista in that manner
[06:40]  * Nicekiwi9 wishes ubuntu was as easy to use and as error free as it claims...
[06:41] <hookah> self, do I have to designate a port when I'm running the smbclient command? What ports do you use if any
[06:41] <arghh2d2> Athar: ok, i'm holding you personally responsible if i waste this blank
[06:41] <arghh2d2> Athar: I'm taking "your word on it"!
[06:41] <gheddy_zarc> is there an app for logging crashes in ubuntu/debian, im using 9.10 and getting seemingly random periodic crashes , I have to reboot to start the machine
[06:41] <dhs_> currently my "iptables -L" shows http://pastebin.com/m4cadd66b on my server (9.04), is this rule preventing me to access net on client PCs???
[06:41] <self> hookah: no you normally do not have to
[06:41] <bullgard> e-i-k-e: "[07:39]	<e-i-k-e>	no idea regarding the accuracy for file sizes in nautilus?" <- Please put here a more precise question so that people can help you.
[06:42] <hookah> self, so what port do I open?
[06:42] <self> hookah:  can you ping the ip of your win7 machine?
[06:42] <hookah> self, yeah, ping works just fine
[06:42] <sevol> anyone know how would go about resetting mysql root password?
[06:42] <self> hookah
[06:42] <self> hold on
[06:42] <m0se5> bullgard, I see that but I disagree. To my knowledge, synaptic doesn't filter any packages.
[06:43] <sevol> nvm
[06:43] <self> hookah: what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:43] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: as i wrote i want nautilus not to display 6,7 MB in the columns / the bottom pane but to display me 6,789 MB
[06:43] <bullgard> m0se5: Thank you for commenting.
[06:44] <Tonren> Can anyone help me with fixing my sound on 9.10 on a Dell Inspiron 8600?  I don't have sound on YouTube videos, and changing volume on mpd/mpc has no effect.  I don't know whether I'm using Pulse or Alsa, or what that means, or which one I'm SUPPOSED to be using.
[06:44] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: i will create a screenshot, one moment please
[06:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> does gparted run in RAM?
[06:44] <bullgard> e-i-k-e: Well, then your last message to the whole #ubuntu audience was incomplete.
[06:44] <fumanchu182> With 9.10 has anyone had ATI video card issues.  I have DVI->HDMI connection and it reports it as a projector.  I cannot fix the underscan and find the HDTV support options from the driver.  Has this been seen before?
[06:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> Because I need to reformat my flash drive, but gparted is ON the flash drive
[06:45] <lstarnes> ShazbotMcNasty: of course it runs in ram
[06:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> so if it was not in RAM, I don't believe that'd be possible
[06:45] <m0se5> Tonren, Pulse
[06:45] <lstarnes> ShazbotMcNasty: almot all applications do
[06:45] <lstarnes> *almost
[06:45] <hookah> Tonren, are you missing sound on all flash?
[06:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> lstarnes, well I'd be running gparted live
[06:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> from the usb...
[06:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> lstarnes, I recognise your nick....
[06:46] <lstarnes> ShazbotMcNasty: the application itself would run from ram
[06:46] <faileas> ShazbotMcNasty: you could always partition from the installer
[06:46] <constantine> I need to use my dual boot to delete a file in windows while in ubuntu - how can I do this?
[06:46] <lstarnes> ShazbotMcNasty: there might be an option in gparted live's bootloader to copy the disk to ram first
[06:46] <ShazbotMcNasty> nvm I'll just use a disk
[06:46] <Tonren> hookah: No... I can play on Last.fm's player, and I think that's flash.
[06:46] <LJR> constantine, chroot
[06:47] <Tonren> m0se5: What exactly is the difference?  If I'm supposed to use pulse, why is alsa even installed?
[06:47] <lstarnes> LJR: a chroot is overkill for that
[06:47] <m0se5> Tonren, try sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[06:47] <LJR> lstarnes, always use a cannon to shoot bunnies. That way you know they're dead.
[06:47] <lstarnes> constantine: all you need to do is mount the windows partition then find the file and delete it
[06:47] <lstarnes> LJR: chrooting into windows won't work well
[06:48] <constantine> lstarnes how do you mount it?
[06:48] <self> or you can use the filemanager to mount the drive and delete the file that wasy
[06:48] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: sorry, i did not repeat the complete question because i thought that annoy other people here
[06:48] <LJR> lstarnes, your suggestion is better. I'm just being kind of silly tonight.
[06:48] <faileas> LJR: no such thing as overkill, only fire and  reload? ;p
[06:48] <Tonren> m0se5: Trying that now... I doubt it will fix my mpd problems, though.
[06:48] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2809935/screenshot_008.png here is the screenshot
[06:48] <LJR> faileas, aim to maim is for wimps, after all.
[06:48] <Tonren> m0se5: Did you mean "flashplugin-nonfree"?
[06:48] <m0se5> constantine, ya, just install ntfs support. sudp apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:48] <lstarnes> !ntfs-3g | constantine
[06:49] <domo> is ntfs support still risky with linux? can it damage the ntfs volume at all?
[06:49] <lstarnes> domo: it can still cause damage, but it works very well.  I've never had any issues with it
[06:49] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: i would nautilus like to display the sizes in MB more accurate (e.g. 3 decimal places)
[06:49] <self> domo:  it can only if you delete system files
[06:50] <lstarnes> domo: just make sure that you use ntfs-3g instead of the drivers that are built into the kernel
[06:50] <Athar> Isn't ntfs-3g installed by default on Ubuntu?
[06:50] <m0se5> Tonren, that's a funny question because of how Linux is developed with everyone reinventing the wheel and screaming "do it my way or I'll fork." to each other... the sound in Linux is just starting to come around, I hope.
[06:50] <FD_F> Hi i upgrade from 8.4 to 9.4 and after it to 9.10- when i clicking Ubuntu One & connect i get error: Error showing url (firfox 3.0 not such file or dirictory)
[06:50] <lstarnes> Athar: I think so
[06:50] <fumanchu182> Well I just installed to 9.10, ATI drivers seem just as useless as ever.  Has anyone had this issue: Your HDTV is seen as a projector and not as a actual LCD where you can do underscanning/overscanning fixes?
[06:50] <constantine> lstarnes: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:50] <constantine> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:50] <self> FD_F: then install firefox
[06:50] <lstarnes> constantine: sudo
[06:50] <Tonren> m0se5: I'd love to know more about it, but I don't know where to start.   As far as I know this value is intentionally rounded in order to save place and you can only change it by re-compiling your Nautilus yourself.
[06:51] <lstarnes> constantine: also, you can't have more than one package manager open at once
[06:51] <pjcrazy> Hello, I am curious I loaded the iwlwifi driver modprobe iwlwifi but how do I get my wnic to use it now?
[06:51] <m0se5> fumanchu182, you may want to use the proprietary ATI drivers.
[06:51] <constantine> lstarnes: typed sudo and there was only one package manager open
[06:52] <fumanchu182> m0se5: I did, I installed them from the ATI website.
[06:52] <lstarnes> constantine: you need to close it before you can use apt-get
[06:52] <lstarnes> constantine: apt-get counts as a package manager
[06:52] <e-i-k-e> bullgard: okay. thanks... now i need somebody who recompiles nautilus for me ^^
[06:52] <FD_F> self:  firefox installed..  i think 3.5 not the default broswer thats seems the problem : i tried sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[06:52] <fumanchu182> Is there a different version of the flgrx driver than the one ATI provides m0se5 ?
[06:52] <constantine> lstarnes: I'm using terminal only
[06:52] <m0se5> fumanchu182, have a look at this then. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:52] <lstarnes> oops.
[06:53] <kbp> I have installed unrar and I have 3 file *.001 .002 .003, how to join them?
[06:53] <m0se5> Tonren, Do you have any sound at all?
[06:53] <fumanchu182> m0se5: Okay I will give it a try, I will uninstall the driver that I downloaded from ATI and give this a whirl, be back in a bit.
[06:53] <shoeunited> Hey there, I'll be quick, is there any easy shortcut (commandline or otherwise) to install all the dev packages related to the packages you already have installed?  *-dev obviously wouldn't be best.
[06:53] <Tonren> m0se5: Yeah.  The "ba-da-bump" sound plays when I try to quit Firefox, I got sound to play on last.fm, and I got sound to play on mpd... somehow.  It isn't working anymore.
[06:53] <bullgard> e-i-k-e: If you pay him well, you will certainly find someone to do it. -- Ubuntu provides alternative programs which show the value more precisely.
[06:54] <Athar> kbp: cat file.001 file.002 etc. > joinedfile.rar
[06:54] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: I don't think you need to recompile nautilus to do what you are trying to do
[06:54] <shoeunited> sweet
[06:54] <faileas> shoeunited: you shoulsn't need dev packages unless you're gonna compile
[06:54] <faileas> in which case.. i think apt has a dependacies function
[06:54] <kbp> Athar: the files are abc.avi.001 abc.avi.002 etc.
[06:54] <m0se5> Tonren, I could help you but I think the gurus over in ##linux would be way better then I.
[06:55] <CodeTBone> !mount > CodeTBone
[06:55] <Tonren> m0se5: They won't eat me alive, will they?
[06:55] <Athar> kbp: Yeah, just change the name
[06:55] <shoeunited> faileas: Right, but I've got a friend who's heavy into wanting to learn all and he seems to want all the devs.  I figured I'd pop in here and see for him.
[06:55] <hookah> what port is generally used for smb?
[06:55] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: what is ur idea?
[06:55] <faileas> shoeunited: he needs to install what he needs, when he needs it
[06:55] <shoeunited> He's majoring in CS.
[06:55] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: you're trying to get nautilus to display more digits in file sizes, right?
[06:56] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: exactly
[06:56] <Guest18066> getting error -22 no user name specified when trying to mount an nfs share any ideas????????
[06:56] <m0se5> Tonren, They're great.
[06:56] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: where exactly is it showing only partial sizes?
[06:56] <Tonren> m0se5: Thanks!  I'll holler at them.
[06:57] <kbp> Athar: it works! thank you
[06:57] <self> you need to be root
[06:57] <self> when mounting file systems
[06:57] <HentaiWolf> unop still there?
[06:57] <shoeunited> Well, thanks for trying faileas
[06:57] <ribot> i have written an python app, which i want to put in the applications menu: how?
[06:57] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2809935/screenshot_008.png
[06:58] <lstarnes> ribot: write a .desktop file for it and put it in /usr/share/applications
[06:58] <m0se5> shoeunited, when compiling code, the output of the ./configure usually tells you what dev's are needed on the case basis.
[06:58] <lstarnes> ribot: or manually edit the menu entries
[06:58] <lstarnes> ribot: you can do that through system > preferences > main menu
[06:58] <gotsanity_> is there any quick command to see if composting is enabled?
[06:58] <constantine> ubuntu keeps saying "unable to mount volume" is there another way to do this?
[06:58] <lstarnes> constantine: how are you trying to mount it?
[06:58] <moszer> hello everyone, im using karmic kaola, latest ubuntu, im trying to open one of the system as a root, usually with linux i just right click then i open as root, but i cant seems to open as a root with ubuntu, can anyone help me, im new
[06:59] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: does it happen when using a different locale or language?
[06:59] <ribot> lstarnes a .desktop file is named app.desktop, or only .desktop. and it is this file i put in /usr/share/applicaions ?
[06:59] <lstarnes> ribot: no
[06:59] <lstarnes> ribot: app-name.desktop
[06:59] <lstarnes> ribot: yes, put it in /usr/share/applications/
[06:59] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: never tried other languages than german
[06:59] <misteralexander> Can I get help with Amarok here, or is there a special channel?
[06:59] <moszer> how to open file as a root?
[06:59] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: it might be a translation issue
[07:00] <domo> if i would like to develop an application for ubuntu.. what's the most popular lang/toolset to use? python?
[07:00] <constantine> lstarnes: through filesystem, then it says you can't mount it
[07:00] <lstarnes> domo: c/c++ with gtk
[07:00] <ubuntu> hello
[07:00] <self> moszer: sudo 'filename'     no quoats
[07:00]  * Church guesses that amarok issues are better asked in #kubuntu
[07:00] <lstarnes> constantine: try logging out then back in
[07:00] <lstarnes> self, moszer: that is not correct
[07:00] <constantine> no change, it did this earlier too
[07:00] <supremearyal> gotsanity_: ps -e | grep compiz
[07:00] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: do u know a language where it is displayed more exactly?
[07:00] <lstarnes> moszer: to open a file in a text editor, alt+f2 then enter gksudo gedit filename
[07:01] <lstarnes> moszer: or just gksudo gedit
[07:01] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: I haven't had that problem with the english versions
[07:01] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: you might want to file a bug report
[07:01] <macman_> hi all .. if i do a lame --decode *.mp3 *.wav .. will that change all mp3's to wave each song or will it do one mass change ?
[07:01] <constantine> lstarnes: the ntfs-config tool asks for a mount point but I am not sure what to enter
[07:02] <Khalon> Can you guys join #sea and help somebody with their configuration problems?
[07:02] <ribot> lstarnes: the question then is what to write in this file..
[07:02] <lstarnes> Khalon: we're busy enough with this channel
[07:02] <lstarnes> ribot: read the existing desktop files for examples
[07:02] <lstarnes> constantine: you need to make one first
[07:02] <Khalon> !ops lstarnes Trolling
[07:02] <lstarnes> constantine: try sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:03] <edbian> Khalon, He isn't trolling
[07:03] <dt3k> how can I display my /var/log/syslog in a terminal in realtime?
[07:03] <self> constantine: cd /media sudo mkdir windir
[07:03] <faileas> dt3k: tail i think
[07:03] <lstarnes> constantine: try sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:03] <lstarnes> constantine: then use that directory as the mount point
[07:03] <self> constantine: use this as your mount point
[07:03] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: do u know how to start nautilus in other languages or do i need to reinstall it?
[07:04] <lstarnes> constantine: when you're done, use sudo umount /media/windows then sudo rmdir /media/windows (only do the last one if you want to delete the mount point)
[07:04] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: it uses whicever language you were using when you logged in
[07:04] <self> ya what lstarnes said
[07:04] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: it sounds like you should at least file a bug report for your language's version of nautilus
[07:05] <Church> lstames: out of curiosity, why use rmdir instead of rm -r?
[07:05] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: okay, i will do so
[07:05] <Guest18066> getting error -22 no user name specified when trying to mount an nfs share any ideas????????
[07:05] <CodeTBone> Hey is it possible to mount my Karmic filesystem if im using a liveCD of Feisty (7.04)?
[07:05] <edbian> Church, rmdir removes the file, rm -r removes the contents of the folder
[07:05] <dt3k> faileas, like tail -v /var/log/syslog &
[07:05] <dt3k> ?
[07:05] <edbian> CodeTBone, ext3 or ext4 ?
[07:05] <moszer> im trying to copy OSX fonts into it, can anyone teach me how?
[07:05] <m0se5> macman_, you'll need to use --> for file in *.mp3; do; lame --decode $file; done;
[07:05] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: what filesystem are you using in karmic?
[07:05] <Church> edbian: well, it's done after umount anyway, so no contents?
[07:06] <faileas> dt3k: prolly tail -f /var/log/syslog &
[07:06] <reactor> guys if I mount new hdd as /home, will the system delete the contents of it or of folder with my username?
[07:06] <CodeTBone> To be honest not sure, default, curiousity: How can I check?
[07:06] <faileas> er
[07:06] <faileas> no and
[07:06] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: check your /etc/fstab in karmic
[07:06] <m0se5> reactor, /home needs to be empty
[07:07] <Church> reactor: if you mount on non empty directory, then subcontent of it will still be there, just hidden untill umount.
[07:07] <ribot> lstarnes yet it doesnt show up in add/remove
[07:07] <edbian> Church, That's right, but rm -r will leave the parent folder.  rmdir deletes the parent folder.   you can put stuff into the file while nothing is mounted in there but it is inaccessible while something is mounted in there.  (maybe you can't mount things in a non empty folder)
[07:07] <lstarnes> ribot: that's because add/remove only handles some packages from the repositories
[07:07] <reactor> Church, so need I backup to another hdd?
[07:07] <constantine> lstarnes: so they're mounted. and they're empty - there is no data from windows there
[07:07] <Tonren> m0se5: Natch... they told me to ask here.  ;-)
[07:07] <Church> reactor: if you want to transfer that content to new hdd first mount it somewhere else, then move over to new filesystem, then mount it on /home
[07:08] <edbian> reactor, Church  /home needs to be empty?  what?
[07:08] <ribot> lstarnes: so where then will it appear after adding this file?
[07:08] <CodeTBone> What should I be looking for?  fstab is all the mount points....its mounted at '/' like normal if thats what you nee
[07:08] <lstarnes> ribot: in the menu somwehere
[07:08] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: it should also tell you the filesystem types
[07:08] <macman_> none of it worked
[07:08] <fumanchu182> m0se5: The install on the wiki page worked just fine.  It is odd that installing it that way vs. the ATI/AMD way have two different results.  Thanks now and it looks proper.
[07:08] <macman_> they are still mp3's
[07:08] <ribot> lstarnes: will i need to update the menu somehow?
[07:08] <CodeTBone> Oh my bad....ext4
[07:08] <lstarnes> ribot: it should update automatically
[07:09] <CodeTBone> Its so far over because of the UUID I missed it
[07:09] <reactor> edbian, my files are already there but not whole home (without my settings)
[07:09] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: 7.04 only goes up to ext3
[07:09] <Church> edbian: i just told him that mounting new disk on folder will leave old content there, just hidden. not that mounting needs for folder to be empty
[07:09] <m0se5> fumanchu182, cool?
[07:09] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: you need at least 9.04 for ext4
[07:09] <edbian> Church, Oh ok, gotcha
[07:09] <plustax> guys
[07:09] <plustax> my wireless doesnt work on my laptop. running 9.10
[07:09] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: it might be possible to mount ext4 as ext3, but I don't know how safe that would be
[07:09] <gotsanity_> I installed cairo-dock on my desktop and my laptop. My desktop loads the themes with transparency just fine (on a nvidia card) and the same theme on my laptop (with an ati card) isnt displaying the transparencies, any ideas?
[07:09] <CodeTBone> K...not possible.  How bout mounting an external NTFS drive?
[07:10] <LJR> plustax, card model?
[07:10] <plustax> someone tried to help me get my vnc working by forcing the ports to 5910
[07:10] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: it might be able to do that
[07:10] <fumanchu182> m0se5: yeah just had to change one of the menu items to gksu, since gksu the amdxdg-su command could not be found, and even gksu is not working so i just sudo amdcccle from the terminal
[07:10] <edbian> CodeTBone, That you should be able to do with the ntfs-3g module
[07:10] <m0se5> fumanchu182, amd bought ati and I think they don't put very much time into linux driver development... just a guess.
[07:10] <plustax> it was working 5 minutes ago, not its not. My other computer wireless works, but now that the guy changed it I cant get on wireless with this laptop
[07:10] <plustax> ljr ^
[07:10] <Church> ext4 can be mounted as ext3 if some of new ext4 features were not used.
[07:10] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: however, if your ext4 partition uses extents, it can't be donw
[07:10] <lstarnes> *done
[07:10] <Athar> CodeTBone: just plug it in, in the standard configuration it'll automount the drive.
[07:10] <fumanchu182> m0se5: bet they use linux to build their processors though, lawls...
[07:10] <Church> i don't recall specifics, but prolly ext4 documentation covers that
[07:11] <CodeTBone> Thats what I thought but I couldnt seem to get it to work becuase its just a LIveCD any changes are stored in volatile memory and just gets removed
[07:11] <constantine> it said I should see the mount point on my desktop but I don't, its just in media/ - which has nothing in it
[07:11] <constantine> media/windows is empty
[07:11] <edbian> Athar, It's an old ubuntu live disc.  CodeTBone Just download the newer ubuntu iso and burn it
[07:11] <lstarnes> constantine: /media/windows?
[07:11] <m0se5> fumanchu182, I do lots of things for the lulz
[07:11] <lstarnes> constantine: what command did you use for mounting?
[07:12] <CodeTBone> edbian: Wont work in this situation, its a LiveCD that came with a book with preformatted software on it and I have to use it
[07:12] <fumanchu182> m0se5: hehe, well i am back on ubunut after a long time, been in the OSX world, hopefully ubuntu is mature enough now that I can use it as a development tool, gotta love those lamp stacks.
[07:12] <edbian> CodeTBone, oic :(
[07:13] <prince> hello
[07:13] <LJR> Hello!
[07:13] <edbian> prince, Hi! :)
[07:13] <constantine> I used  sudo mkdir /media/windows and then I went to the ntfs configuration tool and typed /media/windows - and then went to the folder.../media/windows and its empty
[07:13] <m0se5> fumanchu182, I moved to Linux in 2001 and haven't looked back.
[07:13] <CodeTBone> But when I plug in my external while on the CD nothing happens, adding an entry to fstab doesnt help either
[07:13] <LJR> !hi | prince
[07:13] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2809935/screenshot_009.png from the english login
[07:14] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: it's probably a bug with your language then
[07:14] <fumanchu182> I have been on and off, I am on Windows 7 as my main only because I play way too much warcraft and crysis.  Can't get them to function quite right under wine on Hardy Heron.
[07:14] <edbian> CodeTBone, fstab is read at boot or when you run the mount command pertaining to one of its entries  not continuously
[07:14] <prince> wat's the difference between ordinary version and ultimate edition?
[07:14] <edbian> prince, Of what... ?
[07:14] <prince> in ubuntu
[07:14] <macman_> guys the for commands didn't work
[07:14] <CodeTBone> I know, so the problem I was saying is that fstab doesnt help because its a LiveCD its only volatile memory and is deleted when I reboot to try and mount again
[07:15] <edbian> prince, ubuntu ultimate is a separate distro (based on ubuntu) but together by a less professional group than ubuntu
[07:15] <edbian> CodeTBone, Is this regarding mounting ext4 ?
[07:15] <m0se5> fumanchu182, I don't game at all but playonlinux, cygwin and steam all work apparently.
[07:15] <prince> thank u.......
[07:15] <CodeTBone> Yeah, or NTFS
[07:15] <edbian> prince, Any other questions?
[07:16] <edbian> CodeTBone, Do you know the name of the partition with NTFS on it?
[07:16] <edbian> CodeTBone, If yes tell me it
[07:16] <CodeTBone> Yeah
[07:16] <edbian> CodeTBone, tell me it...
[07:16] <prince> fumanchu182:wat version y r using/
[07:16] <constantine> lstarnes: I used  sudo mkdir /media/windows and then I went to the ntfs configuration tool and typed /media/windows - and then went to the folder.../media/windows and its empty
[07:16] <CodeTBone> One se
[07:16] <d35iboy> Hi all
[07:16] <CodeTBone> /dev/sdb1
[07:16] <fumanchu182> prince: english? I am on 9.10 (Karmic) right now.
[07:16] <edbian> CodeTBone, do you have a folder to mount it in?
[07:17] <CodeTBone> Yeah
[07:17] <prince> ebdian,i have a problem when shutting down?
[07:17] <CodeTBone> /media/FreeAgent
[07:17] <lstarnes> constantine: what /dev node is used by the windows partition?
[07:17] <edbian> CodeTBone, "sudo mount /path/to/folder /dev/sdb1"
[07:17] <edbian> CodeTBone, You might have to use "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /path/to/folder /devsdb1"
[07:17] <CodeTBone> I can mount it fine in Karmic but I cant mount it on the LiveCD
[07:17] <constantine> lstarnes: I don't know
[07:17] <kinja-sheep> prince: Are you on Ubuntu Ultimate Edition?
[07:17] <d35iboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/350281/
[07:17] <lstarnes> constantine: what partition is it on?
[07:17] <d35iboy> please help
[07:17] <edbian> CodeTBone, Does it give you any errors as to why?
[07:17] <prince> ok prince i am in hurry i will continue within half an hour from another name as nandu20...........
[07:18] <constantine> lstarnes: I don't know its been a long time
[07:18] <CodeTBone> I believe there was one
[07:18] <lstarnes> d35iboy: can you provide us with more details?
[07:18] <CodeTBone> Im in karmic right now, if you give me a minute ill boot the cd real quick
[07:18] <d35iboy> when I start ubuntu it comes
[07:18] <edbian> CodeTBone, Do you remember what is was regarding?  I suspect that the ntfs-3g module wasn't loaded in which case you can try "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" and then the mount commands
[07:18] <d35iboy> lstarnes: when I start ubuntu ..this comes http://paste.ubuntu.com/350281/
[07:19] <lstarnes> constantine: once you find out, use sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdXY /media/windows (X=disk (such as a or b), Y=partition number)
[07:19] <prince> yeah i also got the same fault.i have posted a querry soon i will get reply........
[07:19] <edbian> CodeTBone, I don't think you're going to be able to mount the ext4 partition
[07:19] <lstarnes> d35iboy: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:19] <d35iboy> lstarnes: 9.10
[07:19] <lstarnes> d35iboy: when did you start getting this error?
[07:19] <CodeTBone> Right, but when I reboot all the volatile memory is cleared, so am I just gona have to rinse,wash,repeat each time I need it?
[07:20] <CodeTBone> Im fine not mounting ext4
[07:20] <d35iboy> installed ubuntu 15 days ago..
[07:20] <edbian> CodeTBone, yeah you will have to run the commands everytime (including install ntfs-3g)
[07:20] <d35iboy> it will fine..now its coming
[07:20] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: there might be a way to save it to a disk
[07:20] <edbian> lstarnes, Really?
[07:20] <CodeTBone> Please enlighten me :P
[07:20] <d35iboy> Lstarnes: just recently..it will working good
[07:21] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: I recall some livecds having the ability to save settings to a flash drive
[07:21] <Upside> I'm having a weird issue with livecd it hangs at the ISOLINUX screen
[07:21] <CodeTBone> Right, I dont think that this was formatted to be able to save when it was created
[07:21] <lstarnes> d35iboy: I'm not sure exactly how to fix it
[07:21] <constantine> how do I find which partition is which in ubuntu?
[07:21] <hanasaki> playing a dvd I am getting some music audio track however no voice audio... how ot get the voices?
[07:21] <edbian> lstarnes, puppy linux does for sure.  I don't know if ubuntu has that capability yet though
[07:21] <Upside> constantine type mount in the terminal
[07:21] <edbian> constantine, "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:22] <CodeTBone> I could be wrong, but thats my guess with a commercialised disc
[07:22] <plustax> can anyone help me to get my wireless working on my laptop here? Im running ubuntu 9.10
[07:22] <lstarnes> d35iboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 might have something useful
[07:22] <d35iboy> thanks
[07:23] <plustax> can anyone help me to get my wireless working on my laptop here? Im running ubuntu 9.10
[07:23] <CodeTBone> Should I boot to the CD and just try right now and we can work it from there?
[07:23] <plustax> whoops sorry thought I got disconnected
[07:23] <Upside> what card do you have?
[07:23] <plustax> well it was working a moment ago.
[07:23] <plustax> but I did some port forwarding and I think I screwed something up
[07:24] <plustax> think I could pm you sir?
[07:24] <edbian> CodeTBone, yeah!  you can get on IRC on the live CD (assuming networking works)
[07:24] <Upside> sure
[07:24] <CodeTBone> It does, Ill be right back
[07:24] <constantine> lstarnes: mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use
[07:24] <edbian> constantine, It's already mounted :P ?
[07:25] <constantine> it can't be, I'm in Ubuntu lol
[07:25] <lstarnes> constantine: check the output of mount
[07:25] <constantine> lstarnes: got it, but I'm not so good at reading gene sequences
[07:26] <lstarnes> constantine: I didn't know ubuntu had DNA
[07:26] <edbian> lstarnes, constantine, it's not sentient yet...
[07:27] <edbian> lstarnes, constantine , I think that's planned for 10.10
[07:27] <constantine> /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[07:27] <constantine> tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[07:27] <constantine> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:27] <constantine> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[07:27] <constantine> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[07:27] <FloodBot1> constantine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <constantine> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:28] <plustax> Upside check your pm's man!
[07:28] <CodeTBone> Alright, on LiveCD now
[07:28] <CodeTBone> Gona install ntfs-3g and try and mountit
[07:28] <bdelin88> why am i getting ftp permission denied errors while trying to move files from my home directory to the www directory???  all files in www are a part of the same group as the user and also i have even temporarily chmod'd them to 775!!! what gives??
[07:28] <bdelin88> "rename failed"
[07:29] <jillsmitt> who knows can i use Nvidia cards on GA-MA69G-S3H motherboard? How to know?
[07:29] <constantine> lol how do I post the mount info then?
[07:29] <lstarnes> constantine: pastebin
[07:29] <constantine> http://pastebin.com/m49f61829
[07:30] <lstarnes> constantine: it doesn't appear to be mounted
[07:30] <dinghy> what #channel is for programming?
[07:30] <constantine> lstarnes: it shouldn't be
[07:30] <lstarnes> dinghy: it depends on the language
[07:30] <prince> can ay one help me to config my smartlink modem
[07:30] <dinghy> true:D
[07:31] <dinghy> python?
[07:31] <goose> what's a good alternative sftp program, aside from Nautalis?
[07:31] <edbian> CodeTBone, How's it going?
[07:31] <lstarnes> dinghy: #python
[07:31] <lstarnes> goose: the terminal-based sftp
[07:31] <dinghy> have to be identified it says:P
[07:31] <CodeTBone> Got an error: http://pastebin.com/m2b4d4efb
[07:32] <lstarnes> dinghy: then you just need to identify to nickserv or register an account in nickserv
[07:32] <goose> lstarnes: I scp/rsync won't work for me
[07:32] <edbian> CodeTBone, whoa, strange error.  Try a different repo server... I don't know that' weird.
[07:32] <bdelin88> why am i getting ftp permission denied errors while trying to move files from my home directory to the www directory???  all files in www are a part of the same group as the user and also i have even temporarily chmod'd them to 775!!! what gives??
[07:32] <prince> i installed sl modem agrsm gppp wvdial yet my pci internal modem not recogniced but work fine in xp
[07:33] <lstarnes> bdelin88: you might need to use sudo
[07:33] <CodeTBone> Where can I change servers at?
[07:33] <edbian> bdelin88, What are the permissions of www itself?
[07:33] <CodeTBone> Or, where can I find a different server
[07:33] <constantine> I had to force it
[07:33] <edbian> CodeTBone, System -> admin -> software sources
[07:33] <edbian> CodeTBone, It has a pretty robust list
[07:34] <dinghy> thanks lstarnes
[07:34] <bdelin88> lstarnes: i am on ftp
[07:35] <bdelin88> edbian: well this might help to understand: /home/bryce/oldserver/www/folders-2-move bryce:www 775  --> /srv/www/ bryce:www 775....
[07:35] <MTeck> !info weechat-curses
[07:35] <CodeTBone> Pause, according to the monitor in the corner I have no network connection, yet Im in here obviously, could that be the problem?
[07:35] <ubuntu_> I need help cause I was trying use my speakers to play a video but the sound is all muzzled and ONLY comes out from the right side of my laptop...
[07:35] <constantine> should I unmount before I reboot back into windows?
[07:36] <goose> what's a good alternative sftp program, aside from Nautalis which I can use RSA authentication with?
[07:37] <bdelin88> edbian: i have no idea why i cannot move these files...
[07:37] <bdelin88> edbian: do i need to create an admin group for my ftp user or something?
[07:38] <edbian> bdelin88, I'm not really sure.  Try chmod 756 and let anybody read / write to that folder and see if it helps
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[07:38] <constantine> ok got it
[07:38] <constantine> thanks lstarnes
[07:38] <constantine> got it
[07:39] <bdelin88> EVEN WITH 777 IT STILL FAILS, WTF!
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[07:40] <edbian> bdelin88, Something'sup ha ha.    It is possible
[07:42] <vdubhack> does anyone happen to know where to look on a ISO to change its default setting of a specific IP address? I want to make it be DHCP and not set to a static IP
[07:42] <CodeTBone> Im online fine with firefox though, went to pastebin, and on facebook right now
[07:42] <edbian> CodeTBone, Then ignore the applet
[07:42] <CodeTBone> K
[07:43] <edbian> CodeTBone, The package manager found the server (even did the dns lookup) but said the file was missing (404 error) which is very odd.  I've never seen an incomplete repo.
[07:43] <h4f> hey I have message from global. that I have to connect using irc.tddirc.net . should I change to that ?
[07:43] <CodeTBone> aybe they cleared it because its 7.04, highly unlikely though, thats off the main Ubuntu server
[07:44] <lstarnes> h4f: if it was sent here, ignore it
[07:44] <edbian> CodeTBone, They probably don't maintain it (plus you have some weird version of the live CD right...)
[07:44] <CodeTBone> Yeah it came with a book
[07:45] <edbian> CodeTBone, did you try switching repo server?
[07:45] <goose> when a GUI-SSH via Places > Connect to Server, how can I specify what RSA key to use, like the "-i" flag with ssh?
[07:45] <CodeTBone> Yeah im tryin again now
[07:45] <jtaji> CodeTBone: 7.04 is no longer supported
[07:46] <CodeTBone> K, on another server 'ntfs-3g' isnt found
[07:46] <jtaji> CodeTBone: did you just install this?
[07:46] <potyl> Hi, I've just installed 9.10 64bits on a macbook 5,2 and I have sound problems
[07:46] <potyl> where can I get help about it?
[07:46] <CodeTBone> No this is off of a LiveCD that came with a book
[07:46] <CodeTBone> I have 9.1 installed locally
[07:47] <jtaji> CodeTBone: ok well that's why, no more repos for 7.04
[07:47] <edbian> CodeTBone, *ouch* you're sol unless you can find a source code version of ntfs-3g and compile it by hand.
[07:48] <CodeTBone> Bummer
[07:48] <jtaji> how about downloading the latest livecd?
[07:48] <edbian> CodeTBone, Sorry we couldn't get it working.  Are you taking a class on linux or something?
[07:48] <CodeTBone> If by class you mean reading a book then yes
[07:49] <CodeTBone> "Hacking: The Art of Exploitation"
[07:49] <vdubhack> goose: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-RSA-Key-for-SSH-Authentication-38599.shtml   that will show you
[07:49] <edbian> CodeTBone, and it comes with an outdated version of linux?  o god...
[07:49] <CodeTBone> The book was published in 2008
[07:49] <lstarnes> CodeTBone: that's outdated even for 2008
[07:49] <edbian> CodeTBone, well 7.04 is from 2007
[07:49] <edbian> hence the 7
[07:50] <edbian> and this is 2010!
[07:50] <edbian> the world of linux simply doesn't wait for publishers!
[07:50] <CodeTBone> Yeah I see that
[07:50] <tahta> I need some help. My printer (Canon IP1980 can't be installed to my Ubuntu.
[07:50] <potyl> I also have a problem with my usb mouse: when I type in the keyboard the mouse is not responding, i need to wait a few seconds.
[07:50] <edbian> CodeTBone, I suggest you just mess around with linux and use this channel, the forums, and the greater inter-tubes as your "book" that's what I (and most others do)
[07:50] <potyl> seems to me that gnome confuses my mouse with the touch pad
[07:50] <vdubhack> does anyone happen to know where to look on a ISO to change its default setting of a specific IP address? I want to make it be DHCP and not set to a static IP
[07:50] <edbian> CodeTBone, linux is not learned in books
[07:51] <CodeTBone> Its not linux, its more C programming
[07:51] <Neroon> Hi there. Anyone got a clue about overscan on tv-out with nvidia? It only accepts 0 or 1.0
[07:51] <edbian> CodeTBone, now that def is in a book.  hasn't changed much since the 80's
[07:52] <CodeTBone> And indepth debugging and processor analyzing
[07:52] <edbian> CodeTBone, What program does the book have that is on this ancient live CD ?
[07:53] <CodeTBone> From the book
[07:53] <tahta> help me please
[07:54] <edbian> CodeTBone, It's soooo old! Are you sure it's a live CD and not a "live beta-max" or something?
[07:54] <CodeTBone> "This CD contains all the source code in the book and provides a development and exploitation enviroment you can use to follow along with the examples and experiment along the way."
[07:54] <CodeTBone> Lol
[07:54] <edbian> CodeTBone, IC, that's pretty comprehensive
[07:54] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: are you trying to learn about penetration testing?
[07:54] <CodeTBone> I do have a beta-max, should we try mounting that next?
[07:54] <edbian> ha ha
[07:55] <bdelin88> for web servers, is it common or good practice to create some sort of admin group
[07:55] <CodeTBone> Ive been really interested about learning what and how netsec pros do to protect info
[07:56] <lstarnes> bdelin88: I think so
[07:56] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: if you want to learn what and how the netsec pros do it you should check out things like the de-ice series or hackerdermia or pwnOS or even DVL and if your new to linux and want an easy attack platform use backtrack
[07:57] <CodeTBone> Hmm...linkz ploz?
[07:57] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: check out those sites where the disks come from and you will learn tons on both penetration testins and web app sec
[07:57] <edbian> CodeTBone, Or just watch War Games.  Same thing pretty much.
[07:57] <CodeTBone> Lol
[07:57] <CodeTBone> Seen it.
[07:58] <edbian> CodeTBone, I love movie hackers.  ok.... run command: hack FBI database..... double click on "OK"....
[07:58] <CodeTBone> Lol yeah
[07:59] <CodeTBone> And actually this book is really only one release of Ubuntu behind, came out in Jan of 08
[07:59] <thermal_> anybody getting these Temperature above threshold errors on the cpu in karmic?
[07:59] <edbian> CodeTBone, to be fair, it is working.  It just can't mount ntfs-3g partitions
[08:00] <thermal_> all my sensors failed out in karmic so I don't even know where its getting this from
[08:00] <CodeTBone> Yeah, which means all my data just gets screwed every time I reboot
[08:00] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: here is one link to get you started remote-exploit.org
[08:00] <edbian> CodeTBone, Anyway, time to go for me.  Good luck with Ubuntu! :)
[08:00] <CodeTBone> Thanks man!
[08:00] <thermal_> but this is kind of funny, its hitting 30-40 error messages a second to my kern.log file
[08:00] <vdubhack> find the disks I mentioned and you will learn TONS AND TONS
[08:00] <lysander89> hi guys i was mucking around with the clock on the top panel and changed it
[08:01] <lysander89> i want to resync it with time servers but there is no option to
[08:01] <lysander89> what can i do?
[08:01] <thermal_> I've got a 1.3 gb kern.log file from about 3 days
[08:01] <CodeTBone> So, would you advise me to return this book(and get my $50 back), and find a newer publication of the same thing?
[08:01] <XStatik> How do i get flash installed on ubuntu, is it in the apt-get repo
[08:02] <lysander89> XStatik: install ubuntu restricted extras
[08:02] <lstarnes> XStatik: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:02] <XStatik> lstarnes, that didnt work for some reason
[08:02] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: I came in late to what you asked so I am not sure the book your talking of
[08:02] <lstarnes> XStatik: also, you might want to use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:02] <CodeTBone> Hacking: The Art of Exploitation, By Jon Erickson (1/08)
[08:02] <vdubhack> which volume
[08:03] <lysander89> is there a terminal command i can use to resync my clock with a timeserver?
[08:03] <vdubhack> doh nm
[08:03] <potyl> my usb mouse is being disabled after each keystroke while the touchpad not.
[08:03] <vdubhack> CodeTBone: send me a pm and I will hook you up with some links
[08:03] <lstarnes> !ntp | lysander89
[08:05] <lysander89> coool
[08:06] <lysander89> btw the gui option is not available for me, thats why i was asking around
[08:07] <domo> why is conyers trying to send me rm -rf /
[08:07] <domo> what a fuckin DOUCHE
[08:07] <lysander89> for so called lulz
[08:07] <lstarnes> domo: please don't post that to the channel
[08:07] <Some_Person> stupid DCC spammers
[08:08] <ColdFyre> yeah
[08:08] <petsounds> oh my god :(
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[08:10] <snail> well that was interesting
[08:10] <b0w> yeah what was that file
[08:10] <snail> no idea i didn't download it
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[08:10] <e-i-k-e> how do i set the amount of virtual desktops i want gnome to enable?
[08:10] <b0w> me neither
[08:11] <b0w> i guess i will live with the doubt
[08:11] <lstarnes> e-i-k-e: right-click on the workspace switcher applet and select preferences
[08:11] <b0w> hehe :P
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[08:11] <e-i-k-e> lstarnes: great. thx
[08:12] <parkerlreed> Hey
[08:12] <vdubhack> does anyone happen to know where to look on a ISO to change its default setting of a specific IP address? I want to make it be DHCP and not set to a static IP
[08:13] <XStatik> I installed flash for firefox in ubuntu but the videos arent loading still
[08:13] <chilli0> Hi, I installed mplayer and a few other things so i could use mplayer and sites just said install this and that so i did it. But now my hdmi sound doesnt work
[08:14] <parkerlreed> Has anyone had luck getting an iogear gbu421 bluetooth adapter working? I've read online and people say it works in 9.10 instantly, but mine is not recognized. Any help?
[08:15] <vdubhack> try restarting your bluetooth adapter inside ubuntu
[08:15] <parkerlreed> Tried that. It said there was no device.
[08:16] <vdubhack> hmm not sure
[08:16] <NeT_DeMoN> !language domo
[08:16] <NeT_DeMoN> !language > domo
[08:16] <Fog> does ubuntu have tetris?
[08:16] <Fog> nm gnometris
[08:16] <lstarnes> Fog: there are some tetris clones
[08:16] <domo> NeT_DeMoN: i was already told
[08:16] <domo> Please see my private message
[08:17] <NeT_DeMoN> k...
[08:17] <parkerlreed> I tried hciconfig hci0 reset but it didn't work.
[08:17] <Polterge|st> hmm wonder who was trying to do the dcc
[08:18] <vdubhack> was just going to say that parker
[08:19] <dibblego> can anyone assist with this issue please? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8596054
[08:19] <Polterge|st> so basically someone was attempting to hack me or exploit me using a dcc flood earlier in here
[08:19] <parkerlreed> It has a Broadcom 2046 chipset
[08:19] <Polterge|st> Caitlyn
[08:19] <Polterge|st> or whoever that was