[04:57] <mindslant> If possible could I ask advice on getting a new laptop.  I had two stolen and I'm trying to replace them.
[04:58] <mindslant> I'd like a 15.4" screen, 64-bit 2 gig processor and 1.5-2 gigs of ram.  size of hardrive is negligible, any suggestions


[00:27] <mup> Bug #1580817 opened: [2.0b4] twisted.internet.error.ConnectionDone: Connection was closed cleanly. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580817>
[00:57] <mup> Bug #1580818 opened: Unable to download daily images <MAAS:New> <maas-images:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580818>
[02:00] <mup> Bug #1580827 opened: [2.0b4 U] I can 'add special filesystem' when the machine is deployed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580827>
[07:01] <mup> Bug #1580817 changed: [2.0b4] twisted.internet.error.ConnectionDone: Connection was closed cleanly. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580817>
[11:59] <mup> Bug #1580817 opened: [2.0b4] twisted.internet.error.ConnectionDone: Connection was closed cleanly. <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580817>
[12:11] <mup> Bug #1580817 changed: [2.0b4] twisted.internet.error.ConnectionDone: Connection was closed cleanly. <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580817>
[12:17] <mup> Bug #1580817 opened: [2.0b4] twisted.internet.error.ConnectionDone: Connection was closed cleanly. <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580817>
[16:52] <mup> Bug #1580702 changed: [2.0b5] observed IP's address don't expire and are not removed (from DNS nor Subnet) <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580702>
[16:52] <mup> Bug #1581130 opened: Image status stays out-of-sync after adding custom image <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581130>
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1581130 changed: Image status stays out-of-sync after adding custom image <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581130>
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1580702 opened: [2.0b5] observed IP's address don't expire and are not removed (from DNS nor Subnet) <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580702>
[17:04] <mup> Bug #1580702 changed: [2.0b5] observed IP's address don't expire and are not removed (from DNS nor Subnet) <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580702>
[17:04] <mup> Bug #1581130 opened: Image status stays out-of-sync after adding custom image <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581130>
[17:18] <bdx> blake_r: nice work on the gui ipranges bits!
[17:21] <kiko> my t-shirt says blake_r rocks
[17:23] <bdx> maas-dhcp-peeps: whats the status of this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1521618
[17:24] <bdx> maas-dhcp-peeps: can we get some <3 ^ ?
[17:50] <Guest15286> Hello, I had a quick question regarding the supported operating systems for MAAS. Can Debian be used? Does it require a custom image? I see the Debian installer has been deprecated in favor of Curtain. How does this affect preseed?
[17:55] <mup> Bug #1581155 opened: nameserver entry for maas server added even though network is unmanaged <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581155>
[18:13] <roaksoax> Guest15286: you will need a custom image
[18:13] <roaksoax> Guest15286: you can use curtin_userdata to preseed stuff
[18:16] <Guest15286> roaksoax: thanks, will give it a shot.
[18:31] <kiko> roaksoax, are there any docs on custom images?
[19:09] <bdx> hey whats up everyone?
[19:10] <bdx> can we have 'auto <iface>' added to the interfaces template please?
[19:10] <bdx> it super annoying having to go ifup all my interfaces post deploy
[19:10] <bdx> but, this might be a juju thing actually
[19:15] <bdx> here -> https://github.com/juju/juju/issues/5386
[19:17] <kiko> that's weird -- I think our eni config does write auto correctly, doesn't it blake_r?
[19:22] <blake_r> kiko: bdx: yes we auto up all interfaces
[19:22] <blake_r> ofcouse MAAS needs to know about the interface
[19:22] <blake_r> so if you added the interface to the machine after commissioning you need to commission again
[19:23] <kiko> thanks
[19:25] <mup> Bug #1580818 changed: Unable to download daily images <MAAS:Invalid> <maas-images:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580818>
[19:28] <roaksoax> the question is what version fo MAAS is being used
[19:31] <mup> Bug #1580818 opened: Unable to download daily images <MAAS:Invalid> <maas-images:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580818>
[19:43] <mup> Bug #1580818 changed: Unable to download daily images <MAAS:Invalid> <maas-images:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580818>
[20:08] <dpb1_> roaksoax: how do I set mtu in maas 1.9
[20:08] <dpb1_> ?
[20:16] <roaksoax> dpb1_: maas <user> vlan update 0 103 mtu=9000 for example
[20:17] <dpb1_> roaksoax: thx
[20:17] <dpb1_> worked
[21:25] <rubbercable> i have an hp-microserver-ilo-card : how do i add this to MAAS support?
[21:26] <rubbercable> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02948881.pdf
[21:29] <mup> Bug #1581219 opened: [2.0b4 UI] MAAS WebUI doesn't quickly refresh when deleting machines <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581219>
[21:29] <mup> Bug #1581224 opened: [2.0b5] domain details page does not update as the domain contents change <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581224>
[23:21] <mup> Bug #1581250 opened: Maas assign same IP to multiple nodes including juju bootstrap node <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581250>
[23:33] <mup> Bug #1581250 changed: Juju replaces /e/n/i with a bridge that DHCP's and causes machine to get a different IP from assigned <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581250>
[23:42] <mup> Bug #1581250 opened: Juju replaces /e/n/i with a bridge that DHCP's and causes machine to get a different IP from assigned <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1581250>


[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[21:54] <dscassel> Jeruvy: I'm emailing Chris about his messages on the mailing list.
[21:54] <dscassel> Jeruvy: please don't escalate. ^_^;;;


[15:16] <akgraner> Joeb454, thanks for all your help with the interviews!
[22:04] <Joeb454> akgraner: quite alright :) It is only that series I've stopped, I couldn't do the whole thing myself, and s-fox seemed keen, and had several ideas, so it made sense :)
[22:11] <nhandler> I also added support for s-fox's blog to the script (and I think I have all the kinks worked out), so they should get posted automatically now if they get added to the wiki page
[22:47] <psycho_realm> hey
[23:43] <akgraner> you all rock! :-)


[19:33] <johang> why was raspberry pi 3/4 removed from arm64 linux-image-generic in lunar and mantic?
[19:46] <tomreyn> there's linux-image-raspi in ports
[19:52] <johang> that takes me to my second question, why separate kernel packages for rpi? debian only has one package for all socs/boards.


[04:02] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yep, I worked with them to get xubuntu stickers :)
[04:03] <pleia2> a percentage of their sales goes to giving the xubuntu team free stickers, which we're using for some projects
[22:55]  * ahoneybun adds link to ubuntu newsletter to his app


[10:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's a bittorrent metal file?
[10:44] <robotgeek> Trackilizer, still hunting?
[10:44] <mridle> LuNaTiK^GuY:  what do you mean? apt-cache search keyword(s)
[10:44] <ubernostrum> LuNaTiK^GuY: type 'apt-cache search foo' and it gives back a list of packages which match 'foo'.
[10:44] <Trackilizer> the thing is i do "killall esd"
[10:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thing is
[10:44] <Trackilizer> then my vidoes have sound
[10:44] <Trackilizer> but xmms doesnt
[10:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6 etc etc etc..........wot now?
[10:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and there are lots of packs
[10:45] <mridle> MrGardenHoseMan:  dont think that #ubuntu covers bittorrent ;P
[10:45] <MrGardenHoseMan> heh
[10:45] <HappyFool> Trackilizer: tell your video player to use esd for sound output
[10:45] <mridle> Trackilizer:  try the esd+alsa howto and use the soundserver
[10:46] <MrGardenHoseMan> well technicaly i'm using the default ubuntu bittorrent client so it should :OP
[10:46] <Trackilizer> erm... im a noob
[10:46] <robotgeek> Trackilizer, maybe you can run only one stream at a time
[10:46] <MrGardenHoseMan> :P
[10:46] <ubernostrum> LuNaTiK^GuY: those errors show up when you type, say 'apt-cache search foo'?
[10:46] <mridle> that way you should have sound both in xmms, ubuntusystem and videos (vlc,mplayer etc)
[10:46] <robotgeek> Trackilizer, we all learn :)
[10:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no no
[10:46] <Trackilizer> i dont know how do to any of the stuff you guys suggested
[10:46] <poningru> found it
[10:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm trying to ./configure
[10:46] <poningru> http://www.sysresccd.org/index.en.php
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to video chat in msn?
[10:46] <xtanium> thanks :)
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in linux
[10:46] <mridle> Trackilizer:  which videoplayer are you using?
[10:46] <poningru> there is an experimental ppc version of that
[10:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and then those erros come up
[10:46] <Trackilizer> well it worked this mornig
[10:46] <poningru> but again I would reccomend against using it
[10:46] <ubernostrum> LuNaTiK^GuY: so you're wanting to use apt-cache to find the packages you need to install?
[10:46] <Trackilizer> it stopped working after i installed Amarok
[10:46] <poningru> because you can lose your data
[10:47] <Trackilizer> xine
[10:47] <Trackilizer> and vlc
[10:47] <zerboxx> Any help here?? I'm trying to install a plugin for bmp, and I'm getting the following error: "...This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed. configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 2.4.0 not installed - please install first"
[10:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hopefully yes :S
[10:47] <MihaiM> need help on with nvidia driver. please look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/707
[10:48] <slask3n> ChurcH_of_FoamY: No, at least not as i know of... But if you find a way, please tell me! ;)
[10:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> there r so many???
[10:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ie
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k
[10:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> there are so many!!!
[10:48] <_frank> MihaiM: which drivers did you install?
[10:48] <Trackilizer> so anyone have suggestions?
[10:48] <Trackilizer> xone or vlc
[10:48] <ubernostrum> LuNaTiK^GuY: it may be that you'll need to tell 'configure' where glib is located on your system.
[10:49] <ubernostrum> zerboxx: same for your problem, too.
[10:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and how do i do that?
[10:49] <zerboxx> ubernostrum: and how woul..
[10:49] <slask3n> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Do you get your webcam to work in linux?
[10:49] <MihaiM> _frank, finaly someone :) I have done step by step what I have found in ubuntu guide
[10:49] <ubernostrum> LuNaTiK^GuY: usually programs you have to compile will come with a README or INSTALL file which tells you what flags you can pass to the configure script.
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i can if i want it i haven't tryed it though yet
[10:50] <Rugmonster> LuNaTiK^GuY: you can check the options for a configure by passing it the --help flag
[10:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> check that you have the latest libgnome and libgnomeui
[10:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thats wot the manual says ;S
[10:50] <_frank> MihaiM: I'm not sure what the problem is
[10:50] <Rugmonster> you probably need the dev packages that go along with those packages
[10:50] <MihaiM> _frank, nvidia-glx
[10:50] <Trackilizer> any one please!!!!
[10:50] <Cooner750> i'm baaaaaaaaaaaack (again)
[10:51] <MihaiM> _frank, what can I do next/
[10:51] <zerboxx> ubernostrum: Do I want to disable glib test?
[10:51] <slask3n> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what webcam do you have?
[10:51] <robotgeek> Cooner750, sounds like Deja Vu!
[10:51] <Cooner750> And I'm going to try my steps to install audio codecs and see if they work again
[10:51] <Cooner750> lol
[10:51] <ubernostrum> zerboxx: no, you probably want to find the configure flag to tell it where glib is on your system.
[10:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Rugmonster, yes...how do i do that?
[10:51] <ubernostrum> zerboxx: like Rugmonster said, try './congfigure --help'
[10:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok
[10:51] <ubernostrum> But without the typo :(
[10:51] <_frank> MihaiM: well if you just it to work again, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nvidia for nv as the driver
[10:51] <Rugmonster> apt-get install libgnome-dev libgnomeui-dev
[10:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> a little ge deal
[10:52] <Rugmonster> LuNaTiK^GuY: or, go in synaptic and find them
[10:52] <MihaiM> _frank, I need hardware acceleration. that's the problem
[10:52] <MihaiM> _frank, now I use nv as the driver but I need somehow to figure out how to use nvidia
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> how do I switch my systems gcc version from 3.3 to 3.4?
[10:52] <Cooner750> ok. Adding repositories
[10:52] <robotgeek> ColonelKernel, what do u mean switch?
[10:52] <_frank> yeah I'm not sure how to help though
[10:53] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok i'm installing the packages ;)
[10:53] <Cooner750> running apt-get update
[10:53] <zerboxx> ubernostrum: I've done that...but I don't see anything about glib other than disabling the test
[10:53] <MihaiM> can someone else help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/707
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> robotgeek I had 3.3, I installed 3.4, but the system still uses 3.3 to compile with
[10:53] <Rugmonster> ColonelKernel: make sure it's installed and then either remove the /usr/bin/gcc symlink and remake it to point to 3.4
[10:53] <_frank> MihaiM: can you paste your xorg.conf in the pastebin?
[10:53] <MihaiM> 1 sec
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> Rugmonster that
[10:53] <robotgeek> ColonelKernel, do what Rugmonster said
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> Rugmonster that sounds good - thanks
[10:53] <Rugmonster> ColonelKernel: or, if you just need 3.4 for one thing, type CC="gcc-3.4" before your command
[10:53] <Cooner750> updating.../|\|/
[10:53] <Cooner750> done
[10:54] <Cooner750> installing ffmpeg
[10:54] <MihaiM> _frank, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/708
[10:55] <MihaiM> it's exactly the same xorg.conf, but just that with nvidia instead of nv it does not work
[10:55] <Cooner750> I tried installing codecs on my laptop and it froze...
[10:55] <robotgeek> Cooner750, it must be the windows component which did it!
[10:55] <ColonelKernel> NICE - that worked wonderfully - thank you
[10:55] <ColonelKernel> am I going to have to recompile anything else?
[10:55] <aeho> to hear sounds I have to use "killall esd", but how I can start esd again=
[10:55] <aeho> ?
[10:55] <zenlunatic> aeho: esd
[10:55] <aeho> to hear enemy territory sounds*
[10:56] <_frank> MihaiM: the only thing I can suggest is to comment out Load   "dri"   which is suggested in the nvidia readme
[10:56] <ColonelKernel> you know what?
[10:56] <^thehatsrule^> start esd? heh
[10:56] <MihaiM> _frank, do you know what dri stands for?
[10:56] <jasoncohen> aeho, did you follow the sound multiplexing howto?
[10:56] <desrt> direct rendering infrastructure
[10:56] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt
[10:56] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: comment out Load "dri", add Load "glx" and change your driver from nv to nvidia
[10:56] <Rugmonster> nevermind, you have load glx
[10:56] <jasoncohen> aeho, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[10:57] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: ATI uses it, but nvidia does not
[10:57] <A[D] minS> Guys
[10:57] <A[D] minS> hello ppl
[10:57] <robotgeek> A[D] minS, hi
[10:57] <A[D] minS> can i know how i can disable artsd cause i want to ues Alsa only
[10:57] <MihaiM> /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt: No such file or directory
[10:58] <anne> where can i find a firewall for ubuntu that is easy to install
[10:58] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: how did you install the driver?
[10:58] <Rugmonster> anne: firestarter
[10:58] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, by synaptic
[10:58] <othernoob> anne: use iptables ;)
[10:58] <Rugmonster> okay...that is an old driver, but whatever
[10:58] <desrt> firewalling ubuntu isn't really worth it
[10:58] <_frank> anne: in syanptic, install firestarter or guarddog
[10:58] <Rugmonster> desrt: you're on crack
[10:58] <desrt> Rugmonster; ?
[10:59] <desrt> Rugmonster; what tangible benifit does firewalling your ubuntu box have?
[10:59] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: did you get the kernel module too?
[10:59] <desrt> *benefit
[10:59] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I use a N18 card anyway. that's a geforce 4 mx I think
[10:59] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, yes
[10:59] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I think it's a dependince
[10:59] <Rugmonster> desrt: same reason you would want a firewall on any system.
[11:00] <Cooner750> YES! My instructions work on this system too
[11:00] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: I don't use the ubuntu package, so I don't know
[11:00] <desrt> Rugmonster; except that an ubuntu system has no outward-facing listeners
[11:00] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, ok. I have the kernel module too
[11:00] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: yeah, once you change your config, it should work
[11:00] <desrt> Rugmonster; i guess it's good if you want to prevent people from pinging you....
[11:00] <nadjyla> Bonsoir :)
[11:01] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I've comented dri and changed nv to nvidia
[11:01] <A[D] minS> how i can disable artsd cause i want to ues Alsa only ?
[11:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> oh darn.....
[11:01] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, glx is already loaded
[11:01] <desrt> A[D] minS; try a kubuntu or kde help channel... i don't think anyone here knows
[11:01] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, that should be enought?
[11:01] <Rugmonster> desrt: I run samba and an internal webserver. I run a firewall on there to make sure only stuff from my network can get to it.
[11:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> I Did this.....sudo apt-get install libgnome-dev libgnomeui-dev and its ok.........but i still get the same error msgs!!!
[11:02] <desrt> Rugmonster; fair enough
[11:02] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: sorry, i havent been paying attention, what are you trying to install?
[11:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the Anjuta IDE
[11:03] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I'll restart now. I will give you the result rigth away
[11:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and i'm trying to ./configure
[11:03] <A[D] minS> desrt, ok thx
[11:03] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: DRI is what's messing you up, I believe
[11:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i get an error msg mid-way
[11:03] <jasoncohen> !multimedia
[11:03] <ubotu> I heard multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[11:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6       gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.8 etc etc
[11:03] <jasoncohen> ubotu multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[11:03] <ubotu> okay, jasoncohen
[11:03] <jasoncohen> !multimedia repositories
[11:03] <ubotu> I heard multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[11:04] <A[D] minS> desrt, working by alsa?
[11:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[11:04] <Rugmonster> I swear, i think my cell phone interferes with my wireless connection
[11:04] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: you are using source code for a newer system
[11:04] <IFRFLYR> hiI I have installed gtkwifi and can't seem to add it to my panel because it doesn't appear in the list when I click Add To Panel. . .  .Any ideas?
[11:04] <A[D] minS> !artsd
[11:04] <ubotu> A[D] minS: Wish i knew
[11:04] <coobra> root :P
[11:04] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: have you tried the backports or extras?
[11:04] <A[D] minS> lol
[11:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> all repos are available
[11:05] <robotgeek> Rugmonster, happens to me too
[11:05] <jasoncohen> ubuto multimedia is For information on adding multimedia codecs and about the available audio & video programs in Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why is firefox busted?
[11:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> what should i do now?
[11:05] <Rugmonster> IFRFLYR: have you restarted gnome-panel?
[11:05] <IFRFLYR> Ah, no. Thanks
[11:05] <jasoncohen> ubuto multimedia is "For information on adding multimedia codecs and about the available audio & video programs in Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show"
[11:05] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: installing the glib it's asking for will break your system, i believe
[11:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> so i shouldnt do that ok :)
[11:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yet i need a C/C++ ide
[11:06] <robotgeek> nalioth, do u know how we add PKG_CONFIG env variable, though
[11:06] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I've got a "module nvidia not found"
[11:06] <Rugmonster> LuNaTiK^GuY: vi isn't good enough?
[11:06] <nalioth> robotgeek: in your ~/.bashrc
[11:06] <IFRFLYR> Rugmonster - is there a menu to do it from or must I use terminal? I just don't want to do it rudely and have never restarted the panel
[11:06] <robotgeek> vim rocks!
[11:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no no no i need a friendly IDE
[11:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no editors plz :)
[11:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i need something NetBeans like
[11:06] <mridle> LuNaTiK^GuY:  eclipse
[11:06] <robotgeek> LuNaTiK^GuY, vim is very friendly :)
[11:06] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, but I see the nvidia-kernel-common package in synaptic
[11:06] <robotgeek> oh okay
[11:06] <Rugmonster> IFRFLYR: if you just do killall gnome-panel at a term, it will start back up
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when will they fix firefox?
[11:06] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, what's wrong?
[11:07] <mridle> eclipse or gvim :)
[11:07] <IFRFLYR> Thanks, Rugmonster!
[11:07] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: when you type sudo modprobe nvidia, what do you get?
[11:07] <mridle> but eclipse is good JDT, and CDT and you got java/c/c++ development
[11:07] <jasoncohen> !multimedia
[11:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[11:07] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[11:07] <robotgeek> Rugmonster, kdevelop? never used it though
[11:07] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: then you haven't gotten the kernel module :)
[11:07] <LuNaTiK^GuY> eclipse looks nicer
[11:08] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, reinstall nvidia-kernel-common should do the job?
[11:08] <andril> what's the verdict on Backports?
[11:09] <nalioth> andril: keep them disabled unless you are actively d/l something
[11:09] <robotgeek> LuNaTiK^GuY, eclipse is huge!
[11:09] <boo_boo> could anyone pls point me in a good direction to learn the basics of linux, totally new to the linux world and I am lost thanks in advance
[11:09] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: just a second, I think I can find you a link for step by step
[11:09] <andril> nalioth, so they are oonly good for installing - otherwise have them disabled during regular updates
[11:09] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, ok
[11:09] <nophix> how do you deny a specific user to log in via ssh?
[11:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont mind huge...as long as its a good IDE
[11:10] <nalioth> andril: correct
[11:10] <aeho> boo_boo, best way is learning by doing ;)
[11:10] <nalioth> andril: backports are to become official, but it will take time after that for the software to sync
[11:10] <gigaclon> how is firefox broken in hoary?
[11:10] <anne> i have located firestarter on tucows download, but they ask to order a cd copy not download directly, is it possible to download directly from the web site, or isnt it for free
[11:11] <andril> nalioth, cool - BTW that wasmy previous problem - solved
[11:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> btw....can't i install NetBeans anywhere other than my home????
[11:11] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: have you seen this http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[11:11] <nalioth> andril: great!
[11:11] <gigaclon> MPlayer doesn't work
[11:11] <Rugmonster> anne: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:11] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, that's the guide that send me into this problem :)
[11:12] <Rugmonster> oh
[11:12] <nalioth> anne: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[11:12] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, the only possible solution my now is reinstalling the driver. ok?
[11:12] <nalioth> anne: you can find a link to the homepage from there, (i hate d/l from tucows, they try to tack on all kinds of unwanted stuff)
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone know when there gonna fix it?
[11:12] <anne> ok i have to write those commands in terminal, is that so
[11:12] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: you could get the kernel headers and download the driver from Nvidia
[11:13] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I've made a kernel update after I've installed the nvidia driver. could that be the problem?
[11:13] <anne> i am new at this, very glad you are here
[11:13] <nalioth> anne: are you terminal-only?
[11:13] <gigaclon> New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf) any help?
[11:13] <MihaiM> Rugmonster, I try to stick with deb packages. I don't like source compiling for ubuntu because I'm not in control of deinstallation
[11:14] <Rugmonster> MihaiM: brb
[11:14] <anne> what do you mean,
[11:14] <nalioth> MihaiM: use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" and you will be in charge
[11:14] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run
[11:14] <MihaiM> nalioth, I'll remember that
[11:15] <nalioth> MihaiM: checkinstall makes a deb when you invoke it (and then installes it for ya)
[11:15] <aeho> gigaclon, have you installed a .deb package or compiled it yourself?
[11:15] <nalioth> MihaiM: you can then use apt to remove it (or synaptic or whatever)
[11:15] <gigaclon> aeho: .deb package (from Synaptic)
[11:16] <anne> what do you mean with terminal only, i have installed ubuntu from a cd
[11:16] <robotgeek> okay..i've got an irritating problem, sound skipping when i open a new tab/switch desktops...how do i increase priority for my media player?
[11:16] <MihaiM> nalioth, very nice. did not know that untill now. thanks
[11:16] <aeho> gigaclon, I don't know about that then
[11:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> HEY! i'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run
[11:16] <anne> sorry, some language problems to, i am from norway
[11:16] <ColonelKernel> how do I configure my locales?
[11:17] <gigaclon> seems lots of people have the same problem
[11:17] <nalioth> anne: i recommend you avoid tucows, freshmeat or sourceforge is noncommercial http://freshmeat.net/projects/firestarter/
[11:17] <aeho> gigaclon, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README maybe you have to install fonts manually, STEP5??
[11:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> HEY! i'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run plz plz plz plz plzzzz
[11:19] <aeho> Anyway, mplayer is easy to compile yourself, and when you compile it yourself it should work
[11:19] <gigaclon> also RealPlayer freeze when i try to run anything
[11:19] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: give us a break! wait a few minutes tween the same question. if some1 knows, they will answer you
[11:19] <LuNaTiK^GuY> nalioth, sorry :S
[11:19] <gigaclon> neither the wma or rm is working
[11:20] <MihaiM> nalioth, one last solution. reinstalation of the packages did not work. where are the modules found in ubuntu?
[11:20] <nalioth> MihaiM: what pkgs?
[11:21] <MihaiM> nalioth, I have the k7 kernel now, not the old 386 one. and I guess that the module nvidia is installed under the old modules kernel directory
[11:21] <aeho> gigaclon, do you have w32codecs installed?
[11:21] <aeho> it is needed to play windows media files
[11:21] <MihaiM> nalioth, nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[11:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> nalioth, i found a solution :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29720.html
[11:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 10ks ;)
[11:22] <nalioth> MihaiM: i'm sorry, im not familiar with video stuff. you can use "locate" to look for them
[11:22] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: great!
[11:22] <R_de_re-evolucio> doesn't ubuntu come with iptables by default as firewall?
[11:22] <R_de_re-evolucio> hoary 5.04 ?
[11:22] <MihaiM> nalioth, I did this because modprobe nvidia give me module not found
[11:22] <nalioth> MihaiM: have you been to the wiki for nvidia installation?
[11:23] <MihaiM> nalioth, it's in /lib/modules
[11:23] <nalioth> R_de_re-evolucio: iptables is default with all linux distros that i know of
[11:23] <MihaiM> nalioth, yes. no good
[11:23] <kyncani> R_de_re-evolucio: no ...
[11:23] <Cooner750> ok. my codec instructions workd
[11:23] <Cooner750> work
[11:23] <kyncani> R_de_re-evolucio: i mean not set up
[11:23] <MihaiM> nalioth, I'll copy the module form the 386 kernel to the k7 kernel and this will work
[11:23] <_frank> no
[11:23] <nalioth> MihaiM: again, i run PPC machines and have no experience with nvidia, ati or other drivers
[11:24] <MihaiM> nalioth, ok
[11:24] <slask3n> Where is the startup-script located so i can load modules at startup? i want to run "modprobe quickcam" at startup to load my webcam, but i dont know where to find the script, or the syntax of the script.. can anyone please help me?
[11:24] <_frank> MihaiM: you need to install the k7 restricted modules if you haven't already
[11:24] <R_de_re-evolucio> ok... i see... see you soon then peace out (fre ut!)
[11:24] <R_de_re-evolucio> fred
[11:24] <gigaclon> aeho: yes
[11:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> reinstalling netbeans.....cant get it to install anywhere but HOME :(
[11:25] <Cooner750> anyone here need to be able to play MP3d?
[11:25] <MihaiM> _frank, I install them know. what are those good for?
[11:25] <Cooner750> MP3s*
[11:25] <nalioth> LuNaTiK^GuY: use "sudo"
[11:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok i'll try
[11:25] <nalioth> Cooner750: you have the codecs?
[11:25] <_frank> they contain the nvidia module
[11:25] <Cooner750> nalioth: I made my own instructions, that work.
[11:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> WOWWW nalioth....u've made another proud ubuntu user out of me ;)
[11:25] <robotgeek> slask3n, create a text file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:26] <MihaiM> _frank, the solution I have found was copying the module manualy
[11:26] <Sputn1k> how to update firefox?
[11:26] <Cooner750> http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html
[11:26] <MihaiM> _frank, I don't know why nobody thougth about this from the start
[11:26] <_frank> MihaiM: from i386 to k7?
[11:26] <MihaiM> _frank, yes
[11:26] <anne> now i am downloading firehol 1.2... and choosed to save on disk, what do i do from there
[11:27] <robotgeek> say u want to load the "modulex', create a text file "module x" in /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:27] <_frank> I don't know if that makes  sense
[11:27] <MihaiM> _frank, that might work
[11:27] <robotgeek> slask3n, say u want to load the "modulex', create a text file "module x" in /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:27] <MihaiM> _frank, I did not know about that restricted modules so I would copy manualy the module from 386 to k7
[11:27] <nalioth> anne: did you look in synaptic for that program?
[11:27] <Cooner750> i'm going to probably add my instructions to my website (http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/) soon
[11:27] <ElBarono> michael edwards is going to get carpal tunnel
[11:27] <slask3n> robotgeek: ok :) but should anything be written in the file?
[11:28] <robotgeek> MihaiM, that would not work
[11:28] <anne> no, i can do that now
[11:28] <MihaiM> _frank, anyway on a tbitd 1700+ does the k7 kernel have a real spead increse?
[11:28] <_frank> MihaiM: probably a bit of an increase
[11:28] <robotgeek> slask3n, either that /etc/modules ...add ur module to the end
[11:28] <nalioth> anne: it is always best to look in synaptic first, before downloading from a website
[11:28] <MihaiM> robotgeek, that would be my last option after reinstalling the driver, tweaking the config, etc
[11:28] <nalioth> anne: using synaptic sets up the program for you
[11:29] <anne> ok thank you
[11:29] <MihaiM> _frank, do u use 386 or a processor specific kernel?
[11:29] <robotgeek> MihaiM, so u already recompiled against your new kernel?
[11:29] <rking> so, i have an in-house apt repository, and all my hand-made packages get the "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" warning - what tools do I need to use to eliminate this?
[11:29] <_frank> MihaiM: I use k7
[11:29] <MihaiM> robotgeek, not recompiled kernel. I've downloaded with synaptic a k7 kernel
[11:29] <MihaiM> _frank, with nvidia?
[11:30] <_frank> MihaiM: yes
[11:30] <nalioth> rking: you need to sign the pkgs with a valid gpg key (that is available from a keyserver)
[11:30] <anne> ok but what do i look for in synaptic
[11:30] <MihaiM> _frank, and you folowed the exact steps as me?
[11:30] <slask3n> robotgeek: now ive made a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and its empty, or should it contain any text? i see the other files there have some text inside...
[11:30] <_frank> yeah
[11:30] <rking> nalioth: and that's it?  that's not too bad. =)
[11:30] <Sputn1k> how to upgrade firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.6?
[11:30] <The_Vox> rking: gpg is my guess...I'd look at the debian-policy documentation (install the package) and see how it's supposed to be
[11:30] <MihaiM> _frank, and why didn't you helped me from the start? :)
[11:31] <nalioth> rking: i'm sure it's more detailed, but in a nutshell, yes
[11:31] <robotgeek> slask3n, my bad...if you want to alias that module to something, you would add the text "alias modulex more_friendly_name_for_modulex" in the file
[11:31] <MihaiM> _frank, succefully installed the restricted modules
[11:31] <_frank> well I helped you for a while
[11:31] <robotgeek> slask3n, to just load the module, just add it to /etc/modules
[11:31] <MihaiM> _frank, it worked
[11:31] <MihaiM> _frank, thanks a lot
[11:32] <vladuz976> does anybody know how to upgrade to oo 2.0 beta with apt-get
[11:32] <_frank> sure thing!
[11:32] <slask3n> robotgeek: Ok :) should i delete the file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[11:32] <anne> what tool in synaptic do i have to use, its a lot to choose between
[11:32] <MihaiM> _frank, modprobe nvidia works now
[11:32] <robotgeek> slask3n, yeah
[11:32] <sri> MihaiM: is this on breezy
[11:32] <sri> MihaiM: ?
[11:32] <MihaiM> sri, no
[11:33] <kb00heda> Does anybody know whether it is possible to change the window title for applications? (It is easy enough for terminals.)
[11:33] <nalioth> vladuz976: ooo2 is broken, be wary
[11:33] <sri> MihaiM: ah.
[11:33] <Fidelio> can anybody give me a checklist of things to check for when setting up a wireless connection in hoary?
[11:33] <epsas> hey - is there a way to get all of Ruby's libs in one package?
[11:33] <sri> nalioth: don't you need java to make it work?
[11:33] <epsas> i don't undestand why the 1.8 libs were split into all these seperate files
[11:33] <vladuz976> nalioth: oh ok. so better to wait then huh. right now i have 1.3 only
[11:33] <othernoob> nalioth only in the annoying repos ;)
[11:33] <nalioth> epsas: use synaptic to search for "ruby"
[11:34] <othernoob> vladuz976: you don't have to wait.. just don't get the one from the repos.. are you on broadband?
[11:34] <slask3n> robotgeek: thanks alot for the help =)
[11:34] <nalioth> sri: i don't believe java is required (but don't run oOo)
[11:34] <epsas> nalioth - uhhhh...  n/m
[11:34] <Fidelio> anybody have any wireless experience in hoary?
[11:34] <vladuz976> othernoob: yes
[11:34] <epsas>  /ignore nalioth
[11:34] <anne> someone that speaks norwegian here
[11:34] <rking> thanks!
[11:34] <robotgeek> slask3n, hope that works :)
[11:34] <slask3n> :)
[11:34] <epsas> why were all of the ruby libs sepereated in the first place??
[11:34] <robotgeek> sri, java is used only for the wizards
[11:35] <nalioth> anne: try #ubuntu-no
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> does gnome have automatic window placement like in KDE?
[11:35] <othernoob> vladuz976: did you get the query?
[11:35] <vladuz976> othernoob: so just remove oo with apt-get and get the new one from their website?
[11:35] <Mafi> _frank, it works now. thanks a lot. 1600fps in glxgears
[11:36] <vladuz976> othernoob: what query?
[11:36] <Mafi> _frank, do you play eternal lands?
[11:36] <othernoob> vladuz976: yea i'll tell you what to do
[11:36] <gigaclon> ive installed mplayer and w32codec and still can't open windows media streams
[11:36] <_frank> Mafi: 1600fps.... incredible!!! lol  I don;t know that game
[11:36] <gigaclon> .wax file
[11:37] <othernoob> vladuz976: the one where i sent you the link to precompiled OOo2beta debs
[11:37] <Fidelio> anybody in here using a d-link wireless card?
[11:37] <Mafi> _frank, it's just a geforce 4 mx...
[11:37] <_frank> i know....
[11:37] <nalioth> gigaclon: the newer wmv wont play under linux
[11:37] <Mafi> _frank, thaks a lot
[11:37] <concept10> Fidelio, what the problem?
[11:37] <gigaclon> .wax?
[11:38] <Mafi> _frank, bye
[11:38] <Fidelio> I can't connect to my wireless network with hoary and my d-link card
[11:38] <concept10> Fidelio, have you set it up?
[11:38] <Fidelio> checked the card, and it is apparently supported
[11:38] <robotgeek> Fidelio, what's the model #?
[11:38] <robotgeek> Fidelio, using ndiswrapper or normally?
[11:38] <Fidelio> D-Link DWL-G520+
[11:39] <Fidelio> robotgeek : normally
[11:39] <concept10> Fidelio, well you are in luck
[11:39] <slask3n> robotgeek: another question: i have quickcam messenger (yes, the one that should not work in linux at all) andnow ive got the picture working now, i can see myself live trough xawtv :) but ive read that "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well.".. Where can i find this driver and enable it? if its not loaded already.. can you help me with that to maybe?
[11:39] <gigaclon> well could you help me getting RealPlayer media to work
[11:39] <Fidelio> I am?
[11:39] <gigaclon> I have installed the RealPlayer 10 Linux from real.com
[11:39] <concept10> Fidelio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E1
[11:40] <supernix> anyone here running a dns server ?
[11:40] <gigaclon> but it freezes on playing an .smil
[11:40] <nalioth> gigaclon: have you been to the restricted formats page?
[11:40] <NeoChaosX> hm
[11:40] <robotgeek> slask3n, cool...i need to look for that driver too, never bothered to check my mic on the laptop..uno momento!
[11:40] <gigaclon> yeah
[11:40] <NeoChaosX> I see
[11:41] <slask3n> robogeek: thanks again! :) your a great help for n00bs like me! :)
[11:41] <slask3n> robotgeek: thanks again! :) your a great help for n00bs like me! :)
[11:41] <NeoChaosX> how does one change the color of their name in XChat?
[11:41] <NeoChaosX> or their own text in the chat, for that matter?
[11:41] <othernoob> vladuz976: you still here?
[11:41] <robotgeek> slask3n, is that a laptop u are using, and which one?
[11:41] <nalioth> NeoChaosX: when someone says your nick their nick shades, i believe
[11:41] <vladuz976> othernoob: yes
[11:42] <Fidelio> concept10: Why does ubuntu detect and install correctly?
[11:42] <othernoob> vladuz976: are you getting what i'm typing to you in private?
[11:42] <robotgeek> NeoChaosX, Settings -> Preferences -> text events
[11:42] <vladuz976> othernoob: no
[11:42] <Fidelio> I mean the install the d-link card
[11:42] <vladuz976> othernoob: wait
[11:42] <slask3n> no, i have a stationary PC, and the mic is built-in to the quickcam messenger webcam
[11:42] <NeoChaosX> robotgeek: no
[11:42] <slask3n> robotgeek: no, i have a stationary PC, and the mic is built-in to the quickcam messenger webcam
[11:42] <NeoChaosX> I mean when my own lines show up in XChat, not when someone says my name
[11:43] <robotgeek> slask3n, sorry..have no idea abt that
[11:43] <nalioth> NeoChaosX: idk, my irc client doesnt show colors
[11:43] <concept10> Fidelio, because some drivers for wireless cards are not open source, too many different configs
[11:43] <r2d4> I am having problems with FTP (PureFTPd). Only some accounts can login. Any suggestions?
[11:44] <robotgeek> NeoChaosX, I think you wud change it from Settings--> Advacned --> text events..lemme check
[11:44] <sun_> hi. I have a question regarding linux / unix wildcards.
[11:44] <concept10> Fidelio, the install procedure shouldnt be too tough to accomplish
[11:44] <pbiegaj> hey guys has anyone had any luck setting up  broadcom chipset wireless device using ndiswrapper
[11:44] <pbiegaj> ??
[11:44] <nalioth> sun_: ask your question
[11:44] <Fidelio> ok, but it seems to install the card without any problems....why doesn't it complain during initial installation?
[11:44] <pbiegaj> I was able to get the module to load into the kernel
[11:45] <Fidelio> even ls-pci shows the card as a 54mbps wireless card
[11:45] <pbiegaj> however I can't seem to find a wlan0 device and therefore can't do an iwlist or anything of that nature
[11:45] <slask3n> robotgeek: ok, but what was the command for installing .deb-files again? :P i just keep asking an asking :p
[11:45] <sun_> when I do cp -r * ~/test all files + directories get copied
[11:45] <robotgeek> NeoChaosX, the Your Message Column, I am not sure abt the colors and all
[11:45] <robotgeek> slask3n, dpkg -i
[11:45] <Fidelio> it can even go as far as detect the signal strength of the network.....
[11:45] <gigaclon> anyhelp for RealPlayer freeze on play
[11:45] <NeoChaosX> Hm, I see
[11:46] <robotgeek> Fidelio, are u using wep?
[11:46] <Fidelio> buno
[11:46] <slask3n> robotgeek: Thanks =) Have a nice night (if its night where you are too) =)
[11:46] <sun_> with cp -r *.py ~/test nothing gets copied
[11:46] <NeoChaosX> robotgeek: I'll probably play around with it, then
[11:46] <Fidelio> sorry, no
[11:46] <NeoChaosX> Thanks
[11:46] <concept10> pbiegaj, the card doesnt show up with ifconfig or iwconfig?
[11:46] <pbiegaj> either
[11:46] <NeoChaosX> okay, testing
[11:46] <robotgeek> slask3n, it's evening here. thanks anyways!
[11:47] <pbiegaj> the module was loaded and I called ndiswrapper with the -i parameter and the proper .inf file
[11:47] <Fidelio> can a wrong driver give this type of limited functionality?
[11:47] <concept10> pbiegaj, are you using the kernel that you compiled the driver with
[11:47] <Fidelio> I thought a driver either works or it doesn't?
[11:47] <pbiegaj> according to my syslog the dev created is /dev/ndiswrapper
[11:47] <weiers> Hi. I have two machines in my home that is connected to the LAN at the college. One has IP address <IP_ADDRESS> the other is <IP_ADDRESS> I am trying to set it up that I can access all my files on <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>. I installed NIS and NFS. Somebody gave me the advice to edit /etc/exports on the host machine: I inserted: /home/weiers <IP_ADDRESS> (rw,no_root_squash). Then on <IP_ADDRESS> I edited /etc/fstab and inserted /home/weiers <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/weiers nfs def
[11:47] <weiers> aults 0 0. When I type mount /home/weiers however I get errore message: Directory to mount not in host: dir format. Can somebody tell me what I am doing wrong?\
[11:47] <NeoChaosX> dh
[11:47] <robotgeek> Fidelio, u are not able to connect to a network, is that all?
[11:47] <pbiegaj> no rather I dl'ed the ndiswrapper-utils package
[11:48] <pbiegaj> but that's a good point
[11:48] <pbiegaj> however if the package weren't compiled on the same version the modprobe would fail wouldn't it?
[11:48] <Fidelio> robotgeek...yes, can't get a IP assigned from the router
[11:48] <pbiegaj> stating a mis match of the kernel header version it was compiled for
[11:48] <robotgeek> Fidelio, can you take a look at "dmesg" output?
[11:48] <Fidelio> but if I run windows on the same system, I get a DHCP assigned IP and everything works
[11:48] <Neonlightning> how do i add my harddrives to /mnt/ in the liveboot
[11:49] <concept10> pbiegaj, The driver must be compiled on the kernel that you use
[11:49] <Fidelio> robotgeek, not right now...
[11:49] <pbiegaj> I see well that would make sense, btw is there a good guide on how to compile deb packages from source, I'm new to ubuntu/debian coming from slackware
[11:49] <Fidelio> what should I look for?
[11:50] <pbiegaj> but the package manager is just too good on these distros ( I know I can get it for all )
[11:50] <bina> how do you start/stop services in ubuntu? i cant find the service program
[11:50] <robotgeek> Fidelio, why not?
[11:50] <Zodiac> hey fellas
[11:50] <Zodiac> Question, how do I install firefox extensions with ubuntu?
[11:50] <pbiegaj> I know I saw a how to on doing this with the ndiswrapper module compiling it against your kernel headers into debian packages and then installing those
[11:50] <Neonlightning> pbiegaj, i like the package manager in mandrake rpmdrake its called
[11:50] <pbiegaj> but I can't seem to find it again
[11:50] <kafeine> Zodiac, the same way you would install them with anything else
[11:51] <pbiegaj> I had a couple of bad experiences with rpm
[11:51] <Fidelio> robotgeek, give me a few secs if you can...
[11:51] <pbiegaj> and am not a huge fan
[11:51] <kafeine> you click on the link or the downloaded file
[11:51] <Neonlightning> ahh
[11:51] <bina> Zodiac: Usually you can install extensions through Firefox itself.  You click on a link and it asks you to install it
[11:51] <concept10> pbiegaj, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[11:51] <pbiegaj> cheers thanks
[11:51] <Zodiac> hmm
[11:51] <Jurgon1> I get this Errror message: Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[11:51] <Jurgon1> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-0.8.pc'
[11:51] <Jurgon1> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[11:51] <Jurgon1> No package 'gstreamer-0.8' found
[11:51] <Jurgon1> configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !
[11:51] <Zodiac> Why the heck am I having problems then
[11:51] <robotgeek> Fidelio, sure...just paste in #floods or the pastebin
[11:51] <concept10> !broadcom
[11:51] <ubotu> concept10: Are you smoking crack?
[11:51] <Neonlightning> so can someone help me add my harddrives to /mnt/ in the liveboot so i can move around some files
[11:51] <bina> Zodiac: what extension you trying to install?
[11:51] <robotgeek> Jurgon1, pastebin/#floods
[11:51] <pbiegaj> I'm gonna give this a go
[11:51] <pbiegaj> brb, thanks for the help guys much appreciated
[11:52] <funkyHat> ubotu, you are smoking crack, AGAIN, what did i tell you about that?
[11:52] <ubotu> funkyHat: what are you talking about?
[11:52] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know if there's an azureus package for apt-get?
[11:52] <Antinomy> can someone give me quick partition advice?
[11:52] <NeoChaosX> Let's see if this color combo works
[11:52] <Zodiac> Whoops
[11:52] <Zodiac> my bad
[11:52] <NeoChaosX> okay, again
[11:52] <Zodiac> had to get the latest version of Firefox I guess
[11:52] <Jurgon1> Where can i get the Gstreamer development packagde?
[11:52] <Zodiac> cause it worked
[11:52] <Zodiac> ha
[11:52] <Zodiac> Danke
[11:52] <concept10> bina, if you are looking for a program to start/stop services sort of like red hat .. sudo apt-get install bum
[11:52] <bina> Antinomy: maybe what advice you want?
[11:52] <Fidelio> robotgeek : can you give me the link to pastebin?
[11:52] <Antinomy> bina:  creating a dual boot
[11:52] <bina> concept10: cool thanks :)
[11:53] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[11:53] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[11:53] <bina> Antinomy: what would you like to know
[11:53] <funkyHat> has there been a fix to firefox in the past 4 or 5 hours?
[11:53] <Antinomy> bina: I have created a 7GB drive in fat 32 for XP
[11:53] <bina> right
[11:53] <robertj_> heya all.
[11:53] <Neonlightning> install xp before installing linux usually
[11:53] <Antinomy> bina: I have freespace left to make a fat32 shared drive, an ubunut OS drive, and a swap
[11:53] <Neonlightning> stands true for most windows
[11:54] <weiers> Can somebody explain to me what the following message means: mount: directory to mount not in ost: dir format (I am trying to mount the home directory of one computer on another)
[11:54] <Antinomy> bina: right now the XP drive is primary
[11:54] <turkuaz> hi, does anyone know if x is still broken in breezy
[11:54] <Night_Lord> Ssssoooommmmmeeeeeeeooooooonnnnnnneeee   hhhhhelppppp
[11:54] <Antinomy> bina: so I want to partition the remaining drives out of the free space
[11:54] <Night_Lord> I     ggggggooooottt a     mmmmmaaaaajooooor  prrrrooooooobbbbbbblllllleeeeeemmmm    heeerrrrrre!!!!!!
[11:54] <Neonlightning> you really do
[11:54] <Antinomy> bina: I go to do this
[11:54] <funkyHat> Antinomy, if you are installing XP on an fat32 partition, do you need to create a shared partition?
[11:54] <concept10> uboto broadcom is Help using ndiswrapper to install a Broadcom chipset-based wireless LAN card see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[11:54] <robotgeek> Night_Lord, are u making that up?
[11:54] <Neonlightning> you need to learn to type one letter at a time
[11:54] <Night_Lord> mmmy     kkkkkeyyyy     rrrrrepppppeeeeeeattttttsssssss            aaaarrrrre mmmmessssssssssssiiiiinnnggggggggg  uuuup
[11:54] <Neonlightning> oh lol
[11:54] <desrt> Night_Lord; do you have an AMD with powersavings enabled?
[11:54] <Night_Lord> aaaaaammmmd      yyyeeessssssssssss,,,,,,  nnnooooot     pppppppooooowwwerrrsssaviiiiinnnnnnnngggg
[11:55] <desrt> Night_Lord; is it an SMP box?
[11:55] <robotgeek> lol!
[11:55] <concept10> uboto, broadcom is Help using ndiswrapper to install a Broadcom chipset-based wireless LAN card see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[11:55] <slask3n> Anyone knows how to enable/install the driver they talk about in this quote: "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well." ?
[11:55] <Night_Lord> smppp?????
[11:55] <Antinomy> bina: and it's asking wherther the drives I'm creating are primary or logical, and I'm not sure what to answer
[11:55] <desrt> nevermind.  maybe your key repeat is just set really high :)
[11:55] <Rugmonster> lol
[11:55] <desrt> Night_Lord; try desktop -> preferences -> keyboard
[11:55] <Neonlightning> lol
[11:55] <concept10> !broadcom
[11:55] <ubotu> concept10: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:55] <desrt> Night_Lord; and turn down your key repeat rate
[11:55] <Night_Lord> ooooookkkk
[11:55] <_frank> Night_Lord: LOL
[11:56] <Rugmonster> that's too funny
[11:56] <desrt> you want "long" and "slow"
[11:56] <din> bbl, time to go home
[11:56] <bina> hmm, most prob logical I think.  Better see what someone else says just to be safe :).
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> well Ubuntu Installed on my new laptop - time for first reboot.. here goes.
[11:56] <qt2> was anyone else having problems with binding the multimedia volume buttons to something other than the master slider?
[11:56] <Night_Lord> Hows this?
[11:56] <robotgeek> qt2, me!
[11:56] <desrt> Night_Lord; better, it seems :)
[11:56] <Antinomy> funkyHat: can youy chat with me for a sec?
[11:56] <funkyHat> qt2, me!
[11:56] <Night_Lord> No, I still get the occaisssssiiioonal problem
[11:56] <desrt> arf.
[11:56] <bina> concept10: no bum found :'(
[11:56] <Night_Lord> turning it off helps
[11:56] <steven_> hey how can i stop the gdm, so it doesnt start at boot time?
[11:56] <desrt> something is wrong with your kernel, i suspect
[11:56] <qt2> robotgeek, funkyHat, i've patched together a workaround. ;)
[11:56] <abbe80> I have had this problem for about a week: www.hio.no is so slow, it takes 1 minute before the page is loading in firefox (1.0.4). All other pages loads just fine. When I do a wget www.hio.no the index.html downloads fast. Anyone with an idea what this can be ?
[11:56] <funkyHat> :D
[11:56] <Neonlightning> what is the loging for root on the unbuntu live cd
[11:56] <Night_Lord> but then i gotta tap backspace to delete old characters
[11:57] <Night_Lord> i get it EVERY time i install ubuntu
[11:57] <robotgeek> qt2, what to do?
[11:57] <steven_> can sombedy help me out with that?
[11:57] <desrt> Night_Lord; i had exactly the same problem when i was using powersavings on my old amd system
[11:57] <Night_Lord> anyone know a solution?
[11:57] <funkyHat> go ahead Antinomy
[11:57] <qt2> zeedo, robotgeek, funkyHat, join #ubuntu-pcm
[11:57] <Rugmonster> steven_: I asked the same thing earlier
[11:57] <Night_Lord> how do i check if i got powersavings?
[11:57] <desrt> Night_Lord; go to a term
[11:57] <desrt> and type: lsmod | grep amd
[11:57] <qt2> err
[11:57] <concept10> bina, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[11:57] <steven_> Rugmonster, i just got to the channel
[11:57] <qt2> zerboxx even
[11:57] <steven_> Rugmonster, can you help me out
[11:58] <Rugmonster> steven_: I haven't really looked into it yet. I'll let you know if I figure it out
[11:58] <losty> j t
[11:59] <weiers> Can somebody please point me to a howto or a manual on how to set up a home network. I really want to learn, but I am not getting any response from this group.
[11:59] <bina> concept10: thanks :) again
[11:59] <Night_Lord> was it meant to do something?
[11:59] <MIK3MAN> hey all
[11:59] <steven_> how can i stop gdm so it does not start at boot time please help me
[11:59] <MIK3MAN> can someone plz try and help me configure java?
[11:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there any way to make the terminal transparent
[11:59] <roger> m
[12:00] <Night_Lord> yes
[12:00] <MrGardenHoseMan> it's a pain when you can't see anything behind it
[12:00] <Davey> I just got my Ubuntu Ship-It CDs, man these things are *slick*


[06:14] <CnetCOM> I got a question every release of Ubuntu has gotten worse is Canonical pulling out funding due to the bad economy and thus you do not have good developers and are releasing poorly done distros like 12.10? Every OS since 11.04 has had more and more issues...Why? More  crash and fix reports have been file on your blog than with any other release...why?
[06:14] <CnetCOM> ?
[06:17] <crimsonmane> CnetCOM: what has gotten worse?
[06:17] <crimsonmane> oh he left
[18:21] <zykotick9> RMS speaks out against ubuntu's spyware - http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[18:22] <IdleOne> I think spyware is a strong word in this case. spyware implies that the user never knows or finds out about the information being passed on.
[18:23] <IdleOne> RMS used buzzwords like spyware to add weight and make this a more controversial issue then it actually is.
[18:24] <IdleOne> I suppose you can argue that many users will never know because most won't ever see the privacy notice.
[18:25] <IdleOne> Also, he is late to the party and didn't bring any dip like he promised.
[18:25] <IdleOne> :)
[18:26]  * zykotick9 doesn't think DEs should need "privacy/legal notices"
[18:29] <zykotick9> IdleOne: sidenote, i liked your dip joke ;)
[18:29] <IdleOne> They do if privacy is an issue
[18:29] <zykotick9> agreed, so why make it an issue?
[18:29] <IdleOne> because Canonical isn't a bottomless pit filled with cash
[18:30] <IdleOne> They need to make money, only way is to have commercial partners OR start charging for the distribution
[18:30] <zykotick9> yes, canonical's attempts to make money, seemingly at any cost - is becoming more and more clear
[18:30] <IdleOne> which do you prefer?
[18:30] <zykotick9> i'd say, charging for the distro is a lot more honest...
[18:31] <IdleOne> there is nothing dishonest about having commercial partners
[18:31] <IdleOne> We don't like the method in which they were introduced, but that doesn't imply any dishonesty on the part of Canonical
[18:31] <zykotick9> let's not use the word "commercial" here, i have no problem with canonical making $$$, just HOW they are acheiving that end
[18:32] <IdleOne> but commercial partner is exactly what Amazon is
[18:32] <AlanBell> there is a lot of flaming of Ubuntu, only some of it is really deserved
[18:32] <zykotick9> and facebook/twitter - it's not just amazon
[18:33] <IdleOne> zykotick9: right, I was just using Amazon as 1 example
[18:33] <AlanBell> I love the Amazon lens personally, I think it is a great way to search for shopping stuff
[18:33] <zykotick9> handing facebook what people type into unity on there computers - is scary
[18:33] <IdleOne> it is.
[18:33] <AlanBell> I thoroughly dislike the way they have implemented the privacy options
[18:33] <IdleOne> AlanBell: 100% agree
[18:34]  * Evil_Eric yawns and waves to the active chatters
[18:34] <AlanBell> it would be better not to have them IMHO
[18:34] <IdleOne> not to have privacy options?
[18:34] <AlanBell> yes
[18:34] <zykotick9> ya, i was shocked there
[18:34] <zykotick9> "not to need them" perhaps
[18:34] <IdleOne> hmm, I'm not sure I follow
[18:34] <AlanBell> it would be better if they were implemented well
[18:34] <IdleOne> ah, yes.
[18:35] <AlanBell> but I think what is there is more scary than nothing
[18:35] <IdleOne> well a broken system is worse than no system I agree
[18:38] <IdleOne> What I would like is that a regular user like me who doesn't do any development, or have any financial stake in Ubuntu, be able to test the "new" features before they are released to the testing community.
[18:39] <IdleOne> Those user could then report back on what they think would be good/bad/whatever.
[18:39] <zykotick9> user input is not one of ubuntu's strong points ;)
[18:40] <IdleOne> it hasn't been for a while, but they have started that up some.
[18:41] <IdleOne> welcome good sir
[18:41] <blitz> sup
[18:41] <IdleOne> sirs and/or madames
[18:42] <IdleOne> We were just talking about the RMS blog post
[18:42] <blitz> RMS uses iThings, he's probably the worst offender of that which you and I admonish
[18:42] <IdleOne> blitz: I read that iThings as a firm warning from his lawyers
[18:42] <IdleOne> Don't use any tm words or we will get sued!
[18:43] <Zael> well i think the article starts off a bit over the top and on it's way to crazyville... then i read on and get what the real topic is... and i have to agree with RMS... it's a big privacy issue for many people
[18:43] <blitz> no, that's definitely not what it is
[18:43] <blitz> he does that kind of stuff all the time
[18:43] <IdleOne> I don't read his stuff often enough
[18:44] <Zael> it's easily solvable though... just put an option on the installer screens to turn it on or off
[18:44] <IdleOne> Only reason I read this latest one is because I saw AlanBell post it in another channel
[18:44] <blitz> I still think the amazon lens should be off by default
[18:44] <IdleOne> Zael: the option to turn it off as there, after it is installed.
[18:44] <IdleOne> s/as/is/
[18:44] <Zael> but it isn't advertised or announced anywhere really
[18:45] <Zael> many first time and novice users won't even know about it
[18:45] <zykotick9> IdleOne: that default on - is an issue
[18:45] <IdleOne> agreed
[18:47] <zykotick9> and it wouldn't work the other way - who's going to choose "share my data with company 1,2,3"?  no one.
[18:48] <IdleOne> it really isn't "share my data"
[18:49] <blitz> if you put it that way no one will
[18:49] <blitz> if you said "show me products relating to my searches" people will
[18:49] <IdleOne> it is share my relevant and encrypted non personal identifying data. aiui
[18:49] <zykotick9> blitz: obviously it's going to be painted in a friendly light - but that's the end result
[18:49] <Zael> some people's all for stuff like that
[18:49] <Zael> i'm a bit conservative and could make the remark: look at the number of people who put their real information on facebook
[18:50] <Zael> to me, that's asking strangers to invade your privacy... and to some people that's just fine.. and they'd turn it on
[18:52] <Zael> we're going to be facing a lot of issues like this as computing moves more toward the cloud
[18:52] <zykotick9> Zael: with FB people get something in return (connections with friends/family) [i'm NOT saying FB is a good idea!], but what do they get in return for sharing info with canonical/amazon/twitter?
[18:52] <zykotick9> Zael: s/cloud/fog/ ;)
[18:53] <Zael> the password manager... lastpass.. is a good example... people use that and it stores their passwords on servers on the internet... then what happened? the inevitable.. those servers got hacked and people's passwords got stolen
[18:53] <Zael> good point zykotick9
[18:53] <Zael> the business answer is that you get customized advertising
[18:53] <zykotick9> ya!  i want that!
[18:53] <Zael> :D
[18:55] <Zael> it's different when you choose to use a service.. like google, which now stores everything you give them indefinitely
[18:57] <Zael> some people will say, well you're choosing ubuntu.. true.. but i don't think ubuntu is doing enough to make those actions apparent
[18:57] <IdleOne> We can hope they will with the next version


[04:17] <ShawnR> isn't maxthon based off of IE?
[04:17] <ShawnR> http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/25/maxthon-linux/
[04:17] <ShawnR> so it seems they literally JUST launched it for linux
[04:34] <Nothing_Much> ShawnR: yeah
[04:35] <Nothing_Much> I need some help before I go even more insane
[04:35] <Nothing_Much> I've been following these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress and I just can't get it to work
[04:36] <Nothing_Much> /localhost/wordpress shows up as 404, so I'm giving up on this crap
[04:36] <Nothing_Much> is there a way to create a blog without installing wordpress at all?
[04:36] <Nothing_Much> like an online demo like the Ubuntu demo?
[05:54] <Nothing_Much> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/ubuntu-and-the-unspoken-rules-1.html
[17:04] <mhall119> oh geez, datamation is on the whole "you don't mention linux on the homepage" thing now too?
[17:05] <mhall119> so much wrong in the first page of this alone...


[02:26] <bobtherob> where is the older iso files
[06:45] <guiverc> kc2bez & other release managers.. I'm happy with 20.04.4; with 'stellar' QA-testing done by @Leok/@Leokolb (sorry i forget which is correct Leo)..  https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/  ..  re: release notes: I'm happy to be 20.04.3's with a minimal change (I've mentioned some bugs possibly weeks ago ^ where I've had bugs re-occur; I can look for what I'm talking about if needed)
 Thanks @guiverc  — Leokolb on irc - 😊but leok on launchpad/and other places
[06:56]  * guiverc used both expecting one to reach you..  sorry I didn't have the energy to find out which I should use
[09:06] <kc2bez> Thanks guiverc and @Leokolb I will get us marked as ready and get our release notes set.
[09:10] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:12] <kc2bez> I guess we'll need a spot check on the latest build first.
[09:36] <guiverc> :(   My comment ^ was based on no-rebuilt being visible (nor expected - I hoped anyway)
[09:36] <kc2bez> I was hoping and thinking the same.
[09:38] <kc2bez> It is supposed to be a minimal/no change so I think it only needs a quick run through.
[09:38] <guiverc> s/rebuilt/rebuild ^ ..   yeah I'll kick off zsync  & hopefully get to a re-install on dc7700 BIOS & sony-thingy (uEFI) later tonight
[09:39] <kc2bez> Sounds great thanks guiverc
[09:41] <guiverc> I'll boot & do a quick look around on different box so 'live' shows completed too
[10:44] <kc2bez> guiverc: and others here is my draft of release notes for focal.4 https://notes.lubuntu.me/Pp8tFNZGTm-Wml5kHnyorA
[10:45] <guiverc> ack, 2x live done (bios+uefi), testing the BIOS install currently; uEFI install 'filling fs' now
[10:46] <kc2bez> Excellent, that sounds good.
[10:46] <guiverc> btw; I just opted to do the oldest; which was 2xencrypted - could have opted 1 encrypted & 1 non-encry but opted just oldest
[10:47] <kc2bez> I think we are good based on prior tests and minimal changes made to the image.
[10:48] <guiverc> bios install looks good; will shortly mark as such
[10:52] <guiverc> uefi install completed good too (as expected)
[10:53] <kc2bez> Nice
 Running a few tests.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> I guess we'll need a spot check on the latest build first.)
[13:04] <guiverc> thanks @Leokolb
 I can confirm uEFI+secure also good - ran 2 quick tests -will update checklist (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> thanks @Leokolb)
[13:12] <guiverc> I can update the 'replace partition' in the morning; too tired now & going to bed
[13:13] <kc2bez> Thanks to you both for your testing!
 Understood. I will look into packaging it. (re @HMollerCl: The port is ready in chemrat github. But it needs to be packaged, we wanted to do it for debian instead of only Ubuntu but COVID came (I had to meet in person a debian dev) and the I had no more time.)


[19:27] <thafreak> anyone using irssi's xmpp plugin
[19:31] <Unit193> Why not bitlbee?
[19:58] <thafreak> cause I'm already running irssi
[19:58] <paultag> wat
[19:58] <thafreak> now I can have things ping me via xmpp messages too
[19:58] <paultag> I use irssi + bitlbee
[19:58] <paultag> bitlbee does a good job with xmpp
[19:58] <paultag> brb
[19:58] <Unit193> bitlbee (source: bitlbee): An IRC to other chat networks gateway (default version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2-1  (raring), package size 243 kB, installed size 665 kB
[19:59] <thafreak> i see
[20:02] <paultag> It's nice.
[20:02] <paultag> I very much enjoy using it
[20:02] <paultag> it's got a lot of mindshare
[20:05]  * Unit193 doesn't use it. :P
[20:05] <paultag> meh
[20:05] <paultag> I enjoy it.
[20:23] <Unit193> drkokandy: Welcome back!
[23:44] <jrgifford> paultag: so, I went to JCU today
[23:44] <paultag> \o/
[23:44] <paultag> I'm so jelly!
[23:44] <paultag> what did you do there?
[23:44] <jrgifford> Just saw the back part of the campus
[23:44] <paultag> which building(s)
[23:45] <jrgifford> Dolan
[23:45] <paultag> Ah, the student half
[23:45] <paultag> Wait, the Dolan dorm or Dolan science building
[23:45] <jrgifford> Science
[23:45] <paultag> that's the front :)
[23:45] <paultag> Awesome! East wing?
[23:45] <paultag> CS side?
[23:45] <paultag> I *LOVE* that atrium