[15:52] <ActionParsnip> vkas: try:  wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> danieldeusing: then just grep for a bit of the name
[15:52] <vkas> actionparsnip: thanks, i will tell you if that worked
[15:53] <a-l-e> reading https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage did not really help :-(
[15:54] <a-l-e> is there any informatino on how i should prepare my source code to upload it to my ppa repository?
[15:54] <a-l-e> do i have to learn how to create .deb packages before?
[15:56] <dr_willis> it would  be a good thing to learn for any developer to knw how to make  debs
[15:56] <a-l-e> really, what can i read to learn how to create a .ppa?
[15:56] <rweait> interesting.  on reboot, wifi gets a 192.168.3.* from the AP.  Expected. on unload/ reload, wifi gets 10.42.0.* from "same AP" (not expected), and surfing fails.
[15:56] <ikonia> especially managing dependencies and conflicts.
[15:56] <tippenein> I get "waiting for network configuration" on startup after updating to 12.04
[15:56] <a-l-e> i have the feeling that i'm in a labyirinth of things i don't really need...
[15:57] <a-l-e> but i've not found any directions about files i should create or how it all should work...
[15:57] <a-l-e> ... is there any how-to which does not teach me how to fix bug on ubuntu?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> rweait: do you have a static IP set, or do you ever connect to a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network?
[15:57] <ikonia> a-l-e: learn how to build software, then package it, then how to host a PPA
[15:57] <a-l-e> ikonia: i've been building software for the last ten years...
[15:57] <a-l-e> so, what's the next step?
[15:58] <ikonia> a-l-e: learn how to package software for the distribution you want
[15:58] <a-l-e> where do i learn how to package it for a ppa?
[15:58] <ikonia> no, not package it for a PPA
[15:58] <ikonia> package it
[15:58] <ikonia> then learn how to host a PPA
[15:58] <rweait> ActionParsnip, there should not be a static ip set on that laptop.  I don't have a 10.42.0 network to connect to, here.
[15:58] <a-l-e> ikonia: package it in a zip? in a tar? in a deb?
[15:59] <Naeblis> Hi. I'm on Natty, and Ubuntu keeps crashing. I'm getting this on the screen: http://i.imgur.com/xud9N.jpg
[15:59] <ikonia> a-l-e: well, as you'd be packaging it for ubuntu (I assume) a deb would be the correct package formwa
[15:59] <ikonia> format
[15:59] <Naeblis> any idea what's going on?
[15:59] <a-l-e> all i want is to be able to upload a .ppa of a development snapshot of scribus to my own repository.
[15:59] <a-l-e> ikonia: no idea, you tell me.
[15:59] <tippenein> I can get network manager running after startup w/ /etc/init.d/network-manager start
[15:59] <tippenein> but it shouldn't be disabled on startup
[15:59] <ikonia> a-l-e: are you packaging this software for ubuntu ?
[16:00] <hjuyt> hi. i want to install ubuntu on my old pc (xp now). My problem is when i try to make the usb the start up disk creator says i have the wrong md5sum. i've checked in the terminal and it's not wrong. how to fix this?
[16:00] <a-l-e> ikonia: yes
[16:00] <a-l-e> i'm going to package it for ubuntu.
[16:00] <a-l-e> as said, the goal is to create a ppa which people will be able to download to test specific features.
[16:00] <ikonia> a-l-e: ok, so packaging it for a deb format would be a good process to follow
[16:00] <ikonia> a-l-e: yes, however understanding how to build/manage software for your target distro is wise before just dumping it on a PPA to use the build process
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> rweait: tried rebooting the router, then the system
[16:01] <a-l-e> ikonia: sorry, i'm not intersted in it.
[16:01] <ikonia> (assuming you want a good software package and valid test results)
[16:01] <nate__> I am wondering if the result of struts execute method is not success and you have this action what does it do I am assuming it doesn;t go to the /HellowWorld.jsp ?
[16:01] <nate__>  <action name="hello"
[16:01] <nate__>             class="com.tutorialspoint.struts2.HelloWorldAction"
[16:01] <nate__>             method="execute">
[16:01] <nate__>             <result name="success">/HelloWorld.jsp</result>
[16:01] <FloodBot1> nate__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <nate__>       </action>
[16:01] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: still the same on disk partitioning.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> hjuyt: then redownload the ISO
[16:01] <ikonia> a-l-e: ok, then I'm not interested in helping you
[16:01] <a-l-e> that's fair
[16:01] <ikonia> a-l-e: the documentation for PPA's is on launchpad and the ubuntu wiki
[16:01] <rweait>  ActionParsnip: shall do.
[16:01] <nate__> sorry can somebody answer that
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> a-l-e: could also ask in #launchpad
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon_: not sure then dude
[16:01] <hjuyt> ActionParsnip: I've tried both 12.04.1 and 12.04
[16:01] <a-l-e> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll try that.
[16:02] <a-l-e> i really want to have the package out this evening. not read manuas for the next week...
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> hjuyt: download the ubuntu 12.04.1 ISO, MD5 test it then use unetbootin and point the app to the downloaded ISO file
[16:02] <ikonia> a-l-e: I really don't want you to upload junk without understanding what you're doing, so we are at an empass
[16:02] <mathi> hey
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: can I PM you please dude
[16:02] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sure thing
[16:02] <mathi> how can I check if program noip2 is running ?
[16:03] <hjuyt> ActionParsnip: Did this (for the 12.04) and I just get a black screen with a blinking cursor when I try to boot from usb
[16:03] <a-l-e> ikonia: btw, i'm not interested in the quality because for now it's just about providing the ppa... the goal is not at all to be added to the official repositories or something like this.
[16:04] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: here is a screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/screenshotfrom201209091.png/
[16:04] <a-l-e> it just has to be correct enough to install and not corrupt the users' computer
[16:04] <ikonia> a-l-e: PPA's are still used by people, so I'm not interestd in you iploading junk
[16:04] <rocket_hamster> @mathi type ps -A | grep noip2 into terminal
[16:04] <ikonia> a-l-e: try #launchpad as ActionParsnip has suggested
[16:04] <a-l-e> yep, but it won't ever leave the development status.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> a-l-e, , but if you're going host a ppa , then the apps provided on it should work
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon_: not sure, maybe others can help
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, what's a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network ?
[16:06] <mathi> rocket_hamster, I opened additional startup programs and added "/usr/local/bin/noip2", but the process isn't running after reboot
[16:06] <mathi> rocket_hamster, can you please help
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> IPs
[16:06] <a-l-e> BluesKaj:  yep, it should work. and i'm looking for an howto explaining how to do it.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: th /24 dictates the left most binary values are for the network, the rest for hosts
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: its a common network for home grade routers. Something like <IP_ADDRESS>/24 :)
[16:09] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: thanks, hope that someone else can help me :/
[16:09] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, thanks, I assume these IPs are assigned by certain router brands
[16:09] <Braden`> Hello
[16:09] <Braden`> Is there a way to install openjdk without having to install x11?  I don't want xwindows on my server
[16:09] <rocket_hamster> @mathi are you sure it is not running?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: there are countless <IP_ADDRESS>/24 networks, they just have a unique IP on the WAN side of the router (which you pay for)
[16:10] <nate__> where does the .action and .do in struts come from. Is that how you access the action name or something
[16:10] <mathi> rocket_hamster, I understand why now, because I need to use "sudo". So I need another way to add this program in startup...
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: I have a PPA for oracle java 7 if you want....
[16:11] <Braden`> PPA?
[16:11] <jeep> mathi: rc.local can be used to execute stuff
[16:11] <Braden`> Sorry, not familiar with the acronym
[16:11] <Braden`> =]
[16:12] <mathi> jeep how can I add a command to rc.local ?
[16:12] <rocket_hamster> @mathi http://tempvariable.blogspot.sk/2009/07/how-to-add-program-to-run-at-startup-in.html
[16:12] <jeep> mathi: with a text editor
[16:12] <mathi> jeep, rocket_hamster,  i tried something, I will reboot now
[16:13] <mathi> thanks! hope it works!
[16:13] <daemongpl> Barden: Personal Package Archive
[16:13] <Braden`> Sure, that would be great
[16:15] <ldiamond> How do I create a panel icon/shortcut that will change the default grub entry and reboot into windows automatically? Without asking for a password (when I restart it doesn't ask me for a pw)
[16:15] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  I would appreciate it if you could send that to me please.  Otherwise, I am going to have to try and find out a way to install openjdk without having to install x11...
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sure
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[16:19] <sfears> i was having problems with the webupd8team repository the other day
[16:20] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: output from fdisk -l : http://pastie.org/4690942
[16:21] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  It still wants to install x11-common.  That does not mean its going to install xwindows does it?
[16:22] <sfears> did you try to dd a partition onto your hard drive n3lthon_?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: can you do --no-recommends etc?
[16:25] <sfears> my screen backlight turns off after grub splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console to turn it back on.  I have this problem with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole plymouth splash.  Is it a difference in the kernel being used that makes it work by default?
[16:27] <Braden`> That did it
[16:27] <Braden`> Excellent!  Thanks! =]
[16:30] <piezo> hey guys, somebody there?... im using precise, its using upstart, which has its config in /etc/init, do i need /etc/init.d ? cause we dont use sysv init
[16:32] <trism> piezo: some packages don't support upstart yet so /etc/init.d/ is still needed for compatibility
[16:32] <bhast2> When I am install Ubuntu beside Windows 8 when I go to pick the size of the HD is it the one on the left or the right for Ubuntu??
[16:32] <piezo> trism: ill do it myself if i ran into problems
[16:32] <piezo> sure im only running a bare bones system on my panda
[16:33] <sfears> post a screen shot bhast2
[16:33] <piezo> trism: im just coming from a debian system, so ill try it to remove and see if i have some problems
[16:33] <piezo> so generally its safe to remove
[16:33] <piezo> ?
[16:33] <Dan_> I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a good explanation for what belongs in /usr/share ? I'm messing around with Wordpress and the documentation says to put my installation in there but not why it belongs there and I want to understand better.
[16:33] <bhast2> @sfears hold on
[16:35] <dazuko> hello all, i'm here for looking for help.
[16:35] <Troy^> my server doesn't have a monitor connected to it tripped breaker so it wasnt shut down properly.. i turned machine on and it seems as though none of my processes such as ssh and other apps that are daemons aren't starting. so perhaps it's is not booting into ubuntu server would there be a reason for this? do i need to hook it up to a monitor
[16:36] <dazuko> somebody could help me, please?
[16:36] <fluzios> dazuko: hello, some of us is here looking to give help
[16:36] <Troy^> !help | dazuko
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[16:37] <dazuko> actually, i want to know how to connect 2 PC's in ubuntu. I'm new in using it.
[16:37] <ubuntucrazy> hello to all
[16:37] <utu-san> dazuko: get a switch and then use ssh
[16:37] <dtruby> Dan_: The Filesystem Hierachy Standard says that /usr/share is supposed to be for architecture independent files (http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREARCHITECTUREINDEPENDENTDATA)
[16:37] <imissfloppy> hi everyone, i just formatted my pc with ubuntu but i accidentally deleted my partition table on the second drive. Any way i can restore it ?
[16:37] <imissfloppy> i am on windows 7 currently
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: connect in what way?
[16:38] <Shadal> hey guru's ... Every couple of minutes my system is logging the following...
[16:38] <Shadal> kernel: iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:25:90:3d:47:82:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
[16:38] <Shadal> Do I have an error in my config somewhere?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: use your backups
[16:38] <dazuko> i need to connect through LAN cable.
[16:38] <utu-san> dazuko: routers works too
[16:38] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: what backup ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: to achieve what?
[16:38] <imissfloppy> i was on a live cd :(
[16:38] <bhast2> http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: the bacjkups you make of your data
[16:38] <Troy^> dazuko: you talking about internet sharing? or just sharing files?
[16:39] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: the backups WAS on the second drive :(
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: ping the server, it uses TCP so is a connection
[16:39] <imissfloppy> this is what i lost
[16:39] <dazuko> i just want to share some folders in my PC's.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: then run another backup and it will recreate the data, surely?
[16:39] <virpara> Braden`>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[16:39] <virpara> Braden`>>  go there to know about PPA
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: good, thats a LOT more than 'connect' isn't it....
[16:39] <utu-san> dazuko: just coonect both pc to the same router/switch
[16:39] <bhast2> sfears: http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:39] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: how do i run another backup, what app should i use ?
[16:40] <utu-san> connect*
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: if it is between 2 ubuntu systems you can install openssh-server and nautilus can mount the SFTP
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: whatever you used before
[16:40] <dazuko> is there any link to show me how? i do really "blind" in my new ubuntu machine :)
[16:41] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:41] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: eum, i formated with a live cd
[16:41] <Troy^> dazuko: here is how to install ssh https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[16:41] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: there is no backup....
[16:41] <phoenixman> hi, i am trying to install windows 7 as the second operating system in my HDD, which already has Ubuntu 12.04, but i am getting an error "setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition. see the setup log files for more information"
[16:41] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> dashavoo: install openssh-server on the system you want access to, the in nautilus use the connect to server feature
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: I thought you said the wiped drive was a backup...
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: therefore the data which you had backed up but now lost still has the standing original. You can reback it up
[16:42] <dazuko> well, i will open the link first. i'll be coming back if i find more problem :) thanks.
[16:42] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks. It also says it should be for files that don't get modified, but a wordpress install is constantly being modified no?
[16:43] <bhast2> When installing Ubuntu beside Windows when making the HD partition for Ubuntu is it the one on the left or the right http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:43] <ubuntucrazy> how do i edit grub in the command line?
[16:44] <David-A> imissfloppy: if only partition table was corrupted and not the data, testdisk may be able to restore it
[16:44] <ubuntucrazy> what's the command keys?
[16:45] <fluzios> bhast2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138510/in-the-installer-when-splitting-an-existing-partition-which-side-is-which
[16:45] <bhast2> thanks fluzios
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntucrazy: what do you want to achieve?
[16:45] <fluzios> bhast2: press the Alt key
[16:46] <David-A> imissfloppy: (and i dont understand when you say you lost data when the backup was destroyed. with a backup you have the data in 2 places. if either is lost, the other remains.)
[16:46] <dtruby> Dan_: afaik anything in /usr is supposed to be read-only. Would the wordpress install actually keep the blog files in it's install directory? I don't know anything about wordpress but I'd assume the install directory doesn't get modified much
[16:47] <bhast2> nice fluzios
[16:47] <bhast2> didn't know you could do that
[16:48] <bhast2> finally installing Ubuntu
[16:48] <Dan_> dtruby, yeah, wordpress keeps everything in a single directory. I suppose the files wouldn't get modified much once the install is up and running other than user uploaded content (images, attachments, etc)
[16:48] <bhast2> if i like it I may just switch fully to it
[16:48] <Troy^> ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?
[16:48] <fluzios> bhast2: i didn't either, kinda sad that there isn't a "more info"-button
[16:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntucrazy: in what way do you want to edit grub?
[16:49] <ShapeShifter499> what would you suggest if I wanted to have a automatic import/move of all my photos whenever there is a new one  found to a folder without overwriting every 15 or more minutes?  I am currently running ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not quite sure how to set it up
[16:49] <bhast2> fluzios: Yeah that would be nice
[16:49] <phoenixman> has any one read my post?
[16:49] <tzvi> hi i jost downloaded by mistake a update for my linux kernel firmware and my somputer dosent work well something is wrong with it, how can i uninstall the update?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: you could cron an rsync command
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: you will need to boot to ubuntu liveCD to resize the ubuntu partition
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: once you get windows installed you will need to boot back to the liveCD to reinstate grub as the Windows installer will overwrite the MBR
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i know that part
[16:51] <dazuko> BTW, can i just set a wired connection between 2 PC's through "Network Connection" menu? I'm still waiting for open-ssh installation to complete coz my internet is so slow.
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i have formated a 100GB partition to ntfs for windows to install on it
[16:51] <tzvi> how can  uninstall a linux kernel firmware update?
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, but its not getting installed on it
[16:51] <dtruby> Dan_: Possibly if you were strictly following the FHS you could put it in /opt/wordpress or something similar. /opt is intended for third-party software and there's no limitation on its use. Unless you're planning on mounting /usr read-only it doesn't really matter that much though
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: I'd make it unpartitioned and let the windows installer use the space and format it itself
[16:52] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, you mean keep it unallocated and let the windows do its stuff
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: yes
[16:52] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks, the more I'm talking to people about this the more I'm realizing this is just one of those "quirky linux things" that makes it tough for noobs like me :)
[16:52] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i tried that, but no success
[16:53] <Dan_> dtruby, I think I'm just going to put it in /usr/share and change the permissions to allow the www-data group to edit all that. Seems like the way to go
[16:53] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, should i be asking this in some other channel?
[16:53] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks for helping me work it out!
[16:53] <ssta> Dan_: if you install WP from the repo, it doesn't keep files in /usr.  It keeps them in /var/lib (with a symlink)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: could try in ##windows
[16:53] <Troy^> ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?
[16:54] <Dan_> ssta, really? I haven't tried it but just read someone else say that the repo installs it to /usr/share and you put a simlink in /var/www
[16:54] <ssta> Dan_: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Jan 16  2012 blogs.dir -> /var/lib/wordpress/blogs.dir
[16:54] <auronandace> Troy^: why did you add it to fstab?
[16:54] <sfears> my screen backlight turns off after grub and i don't see a splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console after boot to turn it back on.  This happens with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole splash, no problems at all.  Is it the kernel being used that makes a difference or can i cut a part out of something backtrack uses?
[16:54] <tomek_> hi folks, maybe someone would be able to give me a hint ;) I installed lubuntu desktop over my ubuntu installation just for checking it out, then I removed it but the lubuntu splash screen remains while booting or shutting down. any idea how to fix this?
[16:54] <ssta> Dan_: if you install from the repo you get a much better install than that...and get timely security updates.  This is why installing from repos is recommended
[16:55] <phoenixman> does linux have any thing called dynamic disc or basic disc?
[16:55] <sfears> tomek_: apt-cache search plymouth theme
[16:55] <bhast2> when you have two montiors does it always mirror
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> sfears: if you add it to the startup adds it will run after login
[16:55] <Dan_> ssta, I definitely believe you :) I'm partly just doing this to learn wtf is going on and why, not so much get it done for a production environment
[16:55] <Troy^> auronandace: headless server
[16:55] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> sfears: could add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it may help too
[16:56] <sfears> i have that part done ActionParsnip, but i still have no splash.  but it works fine with backtrack and i'm trying to find out where
[16:56] <ssta> Dan_: install to a VM and play with stuff...take it apart to see how it works.  In general the design choices made by Debian are pretty good
[16:56] <sfears> i've edited a couple of the grub.cfg lines but nothing worked
[16:56] <Dan_> ssta: one step ahead of you :) I'm on my 3rd vm right now (I break a lot of stuff)
[16:57] <sfears> i've added a line to rc.local and added a few scripts to turn it back on after sleep ActionParsnip.  but i'd still like to figure out where it's not working on boot
[16:57] <dtruby> Dan_: breaking stuff in VMs is always the best way to learn how this stuff works imho :-)
[16:58] <ssta> Dan_: one of the principles is that /usr can be read only.  If there's a package that violates that, it's a bug and should be reported as such
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: just backup the disk image and play, then when you want a reinstall just take a copy of the disk image
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: saves having to wait for reinstalls
[16:59] <sfears> any other ideas ActionParsnip?  Is there something I can compile in a kernel to turn it on?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> sfears: are there any bugs reported, otherwise no idea
[17:01] <sfears> yeah, lots of bugs.  They all say to add the line to rc.local, but that's not deep enough
[17:02] <dazuko> well, somebody please show me how to set LAN between 2 PC's using Network Manager :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> sfears: tried Quantal installed on USB. See if it's the same?
[17:02] <tomek_> sfears: thx a lot
[17:03] <sfears> i've tried the backtrack livecd ActionParsnip, and it stays lit the whole time.  but ubuntu & linux mint turn off right after grub
[17:04] <sfears> quantal 12.04.1 ActionParsnip?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> sfears: no, quantal is ubuntu 12.10 released next month but is in beta now
[17:05] <sfears> humm, i guess i have not
[17:06] <fluzios> bhast2: no, you can have bigger desktop: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[17:06] <FrozenFire> Running 12.04, and finding that Warsow isn't in the Ubuntu repos any more (including partner repos). Any clue as to where I might be able to get it?
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> any tips on how to restore my dsktop?
[17:07] <dubaco> ubuntucrazy:  have you backed up?
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> no not yet
[17:08] <ubuntucrazy> how do i back up?
[17:08] <dubaco> !backup
[17:08] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: has your screen ever worked ? or did it never work ?
[17:09] <greenit> hi, can i change the background of the grub anyhow?
[17:09] <sfears> ubuntucrazy: at the grub screen press e for edit and add nomodeset to the end of the line
[17:09] <dubaco> ikonia: thats the same question twice
[17:09] <ikonia> greenit: SPLASHIMAGE is the parameter
[17:09] <ikonia> dubaco: thanks for the worthless input
[17:09] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes my desktop worked before i upgraded
[17:09] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so it's the upgrade that broke it
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: what video card do you have ?
[17:10] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: matrox
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so an ATI
[17:10] <a-l-e> i have ubuntu in a virtual machine... what's the correct way to add the virtualbox additions?
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: the upgrade was from 11.10 to 12.04 ? or some other version
[17:10] <dr_willis> ati bought matrox?
[17:10] <ubuntucrazy> pci
[17:11] <ikonia> dr_willis: not %100 certain
[17:11] <a-l-e> (btw, ikonia, i'm getting good help on launchpad to create a ppa)
[17:11] <ikonia> a-l-e: I'm not interested.
[17:11] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes from 11.10 to 12.04
[17:11] <dr_willis> !vbox
[17:11] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: can you be specific about the card make/model
[17:11] <ikonia> dr_willis: good spot, they are still "their own brand"
[17:11] <ubuntucrazy> wait
[17:12] <bhast2> there we go
[17:13] <bhast2> fluzios : Thanks
[17:13] <Melampo> Guys can a ask you a question about IRC and xChat?
[17:13] <FlowRiser> Melampo, don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[17:13] <Melampo> I need to associate IRC link to xchat when I'm using Firefox
[17:14] <Melampo> so that, when I click an a channel link, xchat connets to that particolar channel
[17:15] <FlowRiser> Melampo, i think you need to write an extension to firefox
[17:15] <Melampo> write an entire extension?!
[17:15] <Melampo> Like in about:config?
[17:16] <FlowRiser> Melampo, it's not as hard as it sounds; just an extension to open an application;
[17:17] <Melampo> well, I don't even know how to begin
[17:18] <FlowRiser> Melampo, ask around, maybe on a Firefox channel ? it might be an even easier solution
[17:18] <Melampo> I'll try
[17:18] <Melampo> thanks
[17:18] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: my graphics cardi is Matrox Graphics 32MB
[17:19] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok,
[17:19] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: do you know how to boot into recovery mode ?
[17:19] <FlowRiser> Melampo, also, get interested in opening xchat via a terminal and add channels and such
[17:19] <Melampo> how do I do that?
[17:20] <ubuntucrazy> sfears: should choose a kernel at the grub screen to edit and add nomodeset at the end?
[17:21] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: how do i boot in recovery mode?
[17:21] <FlowRiser> Melampo, easy: type in terminal "man xchat"
[17:21] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: you should have a recovery option on your grub menu
[17:22] <ash_> hi
[17:22] <ash_> anybody here
[17:22] <ash_> on Ubuntu?
[17:22] <ash_> :p
[17:22] <FloodBot1> ash_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <ash_> Opes i am really sorry ;) juste wanted to know if anybody use Ubuntu ? :P
[17:23] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes. i did use all the recovery mode options at the grub menu but still the same
[17:23] <FlowRiser> !xchat
[17:23] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: really, you still get that if you hit the recovery shell option
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ash_: obviously, yes...
[17:26] <thequestionaire> Hi all ;)
[17:28] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes. all the options still the same
[17:28] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so we know it's the framebuffer rather than X that's the issue in this situation
[17:28] <thequestionaire> What do you think is most stable
[17:28] <thequestionaire> 10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10 or 12.04 ?
[17:29] <ikonia> thequestionaire: depends on many things, the LTS versions are normally a better option for long term stability
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> thequestionaire: 10.10 is no longer supported, 11.04 is nearly EOL and 10.04 desktop + 11.10 are EOL in April next year. So I'd go for 12.04
[17:30] <thequestionaire> ok should i install 12.04 or 12.04.1
[17:30] <theadmin> Ok, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 and I have a silly problem. I can't find the Flash settings (installed Flash using flashplugin-installer from the repos).
[17:30] <dazuko> hello again :) i have just installed openssh-client and server to connect my PC's as my plan. Then, what should i do next? I want to build a LAN connection.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> thequestionaire: they are the same difference, as soon as you install 12.04 and run updates, you will have 12.04.1
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: don't you mean file share?
[17:31] <thequestionaire> well my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases
[17:31] <Troy^> grr just lost all my music data
[17:31] <Troy^> lol
[17:31] <xangua>  theadmin if you mean a Menu entry for flash settings, you need adobe-flashplugin from Partner repository for that
[17:31] <dazuko> yes, for a file/folder sharing :)
[17:31] <theadmin> xangua: Oh geez, thanks
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: dude you really need to drop this 'connection' word. It means nothing at all
[17:31] <thequestionaire> well my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: open nautils and click file -> connect to serve and you can enter the IP and credentials on the other side and you will see the data
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: as you are using SFTP, you can port forward on the router and access the data from anywhere on the web securely
[17:32] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: what to do if it's the framebuffer that causes the issue? any steps?
[17:32] <Kroach> when publishing an Ubuntu One file using the context menu in Nautilus, is there a way to get the URL without going to the U1 web intereface?
[17:32] <xangua> thequestionaire: sounds like your neighbour doesn't install security updates
[17:33] <jake_> any alternative pulseaudio
[17:33]  * bhast2 is still installing
[17:33] <bhast2> this is taking awhile
[17:34] <thequestionaire> xangua, he said updates are making the pc slower and more unsafe and he also said that the 12.04 mark shuttleworth himself built and1 2.04.1 is a community project
[17:34] <thequestionaire> .
[17:34] <xangua> security updates make system unsafe... wow
[17:35] <BluesKaj> jake_, only if you don't mind no audio on websites , afaik
[17:35] <Flannel> thequestionaire: your neighbor is incorrect on a number of points.  You actually can't even get 12.04 anymore, only 12.04.1
[17:36] <tprice> im getting this error with UEC "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none" is anyone else getting the same error? is there a fix i can do it get it working?
[17:36] <Tico> I got stuck at ubuntu splash screen with five dots on ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <dr_willis> 12.04.1 is 12.04 with the updates included on the iso.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Tico: what GPU do you use?
[17:37] <jake_> BluesKay, lame
[17:37] <ash_> Ubuntu 12.04 is really ok compair to the previous one, its just that bar on the left :( I dont like it, does anyobdy know how to remove it?
[17:37] <Tico> ActionParsnip: 2,5GHz intel core i5
[17:37] <theadmin> !notunity | ash_
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> ash_: install the gnome-panel package and log off, then select the new session
[17:38] <theadmin> xangua: Thanks, that solved it :)
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> ash_: or install a different desktop and sidestep gnome all together :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tico: no, the GPU, not the CPU
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tico: the video chip
[17:40] <BluesKaj> lame and pulseaudio are 2 different apps with different uses. jake_ ...pulseaudio is a sound server , lame is a mp3 app
[17:41] <ash_> @ubottu  (Thanks you a lot my friend i will give  a try to this ) :)
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !bot | ash_
[17:43] <raven> hi
[17:43] <jake_> haha misunderstanding i know that i was just stating fact BluesKay
[17:44] <raven> i still have some rights-problems with tightvncserver and virtual desktop environment - need help please
[17:44] <Tico> ActionParsnip: Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB
[17:45] <bhast2> install takes forever when you pick install updates lol
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Tico
[17:46] <^GeCk0^> is there any working version from spotify for ubuntu ?
[17:46] <smt> hi, i changed hardware, and the new motherboard brought an intel hda chipset with it, i do have sound cause alsa seems to be working, but i cannot control it properly cause pulseaudio doesnt work anymore, any help on that?
[17:46] <Tico> ActionParsnip: i use nointremap, it used to work before, now i got stuck at splash screen
[17:47] <^GeCk0^> smt,  try the 2.0 version of pulse audio
[17:47] <^GeCk0^> there is an ppa
[17:47] <jake_> whats the ppa? GeCkO
[17:48] <smt> thats the question
[17:48] <smt> ubuntu audio dev team ppa?
[17:49] <^GeCk0^> smt, ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing
[17:49] <thomasu> well I forgot my root pw any suggestions?
[17:49] <kostkon> smt, try deleting the .pulse folder
[17:49] <greenit> ikonia, sry that i answer now, but how can i set the background of the grub from the violet-thingy which is default to black with splashimage?
[17:49] <jrib> thomasu: there is no root password by default.  Do you mean you forgot your first user's password?
[17:49] <smt> kostkon: i already tried that
[17:49] <thomasu> yeah :P
[17:49] <kostkon> smt, did you logout and login again after doing that?
[17:49] <jrib> !password | thomasu
[17:50] <smt> shure
[17:50] <thedangler> how should I go about troubleshooting ubuntu not able to receive and connections.  I can ping out, use the internet, but I can't seem to ping to the ubuntu box.
[17:50] <kostkon> smt, k
[17:50] <thedangler> receive any*
[17:50] <thomasu> !password | thomasu
[17:50] <kostkon> smt, did you try to setup your sound in the sound preferences?
[17:50] <mutio> smt, did you do a full shutdown and restart?
[17:51] <smt> i cant even open the sound preferences, it only tells "waiting for sound system"
[17:51] <smt> yes i did a full shutdown
[17:51] <Tico> ActionParsnip: or is it same?
[17:52] <kostkon> smt, does ps -A | grep pulseaudio output anything?
[17:52] <smt> nope
[17:52] <kostkon> hmm
[17:52] <mutio> smt, I wonder what the chances are that pulseaudio doesn't support your new hardware?
[17:53] <bhast2> what is the best way to view my ntfs partition
[17:53] <kostkon> smt, try starting it, give: pulseaudio -D
[17:54] <mutio> bhast2 // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?
[17:54] <gzmask> is ubuntu 12.04 64bit compatible with sony vaio t series ?
[17:54] <smt> smt@smt:~$ pulseaudio -D
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Start des Daemons fehlgeschlagen.
[17:54] <smt> smt@smt:~$ pulseaudio
[17:54] <smt> N: alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.
[17:54] <smt> E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device=hw:0"): initialization failed.
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Module load failed.
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Konnte Daemon nicht initialisieren.
[17:54] <FloodBot1> smt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <kostkon> hmm
[17:55] <mutio> smt, looks like alsa doesn't support your hw either
[17:55] <smt> it does, i can hear something, and i can control it via alsamixer
[17:55] <bhast2_> got disconnected
[17:55] <shwaiil_> Q: Anyone here tested Sony Vegas  on a VM ? thanks
[17:56] <smt> (might be some fallback...)
[17:56] <bhast2_> what is the be way to see my windows HD
[17:56] <mutio> bhast2_ // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?
[17:56] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> My Mic doesn't work in pulseaudio, but I can get alsamixer to feed it beck to the speaker, can someone help me debug this?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Htbrdd: is it an internal partiion?
[17:57] <bhast2_> thanks
[17:58] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> From what I read on the internet pulseaudio sits on top of alsa, but what exactly is the path for the microphone?
[17:58] <kostkon> smt, does  fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*  output anything?
[17:58] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> What channels do I need to mute or unmute in alsamixer?
[17:59] <smt> kostkon: yes it does
[17:59] <kostkon> smt, paste the output somewhere, e.g. paste.ubuntu.com
[17:59] <smt> only snd, nothing dsp
[18:01] <smt> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195138/
[18:02] <mutio> smt, there's probably alternatives to pulseaudio
[18:02] <kostkon> smt, iinteresting. ok try this. close totem. give again the last cmd and make sure that it doesnt show totem again and then try to start pulseuadio again:  pulseaudio -D
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, dpends what channels/controls are not going to be used
[18:03] <smt> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195140/
[18:04] <kostkon> smt, does now  ps -A | grep pulseaudio  output something
[18:05] <smt> yep one line
[18:05] <smt> 21230 ?        00:00:00 pulseaudio
[18:05] <kostkon> smt, nice. dont open anything media app yet. now try to setup your sound again in your sound prefs
[18:05] <kostkon> smt, i think you should be ok now
[18:05] <kostkon> any media app*
[18:06] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: sorry, I was just dealing with something else, how are you progressing ?
[18:06] <ChaoticanarchyX> hi all anyone free to help someone out with a problem or two?
[18:07] <smt> kostkon, works great, but will it still work after a reboot?
[18:07] <kostkon> smt, to test it, just logout and login again. good luck :P
[18:07] <bhast2> what is the best way to burn a avi file in ubuntu
[18:08] <mbalmer> print it out and light the paper?
[18:08] <Eagleman> What is a nightly?
[18:08] <bhast2> wow ubuntu is smooth
[18:08] <bhast2> first time installing it without vm
[18:09] <Troy^> bhast2: of course. as long as hardware is good
[18:09] <bhast2> program to burn a movie??
[18:10] <auronandace> !burn | bhast2
[18:10] <auronandace> bhast2: i like xfburn
[18:10] <baizon> indeed xfburn
[18:10] <bhast2> thanks guys
[18:10] <bhast2> going to be hard to boot into windows lol
[18:11] <bhast2> any way to auto auth
[18:11] <bhast2> so I don't have to put in my password everytime I install something
[18:11] <Troy^> bhast2: there is a timer on sudo command
[18:11] <bhast2> how do I do that
[18:11] <smt> kostkon: it works, (tried a full reboot too) i dont have any idea what changed but thanks anyway
[18:12] <kostkon> smt, np :)
[18:12] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> BluesKaj, if I unmute the "Front Mic" in alsamixer I can hear myself on the speaker, but I don't get any access to my mic from any application.
[18:12] <ChaoticanarchyX> can anyone help me with making my display stop going into standby after ten minutes?
[18:12] <Troy^> bhast2: no idea and i wouldn't change it, it makes your system secure. when you use the command line more you will find out sudo is the samething as that prompt for password. it basically allows you to make system changes
[18:12] <bhast2> ok
[18:12] <bhast2> thanks
[18:13] <bhast2> any one want to recommand programs for ubuntu
[18:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> OGM RIP
[18:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> good rip program
[18:13] <mutio> bhast2 // prgrams to do what?
[18:15] <Eagleman> Which version of ejabberd is in the repository?
[18:15] <bhast2> some programs that are a must have for ubuntu
[18:16] <auronandace> bhast2: only you can answer that question
[18:16] <mutio> bhast2 // there are a huge number of linux apps around, and most of them will run on ubuntu
[18:16] <Troy^> bhast2: http://omgubuntu.co.uk does reviews on some neat apps sometimes but really that is a broad question
[18:16] <auronandace> bhast2: it all depends on what you want to do
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, most applications for recording or hearing a mic thru them have settings in them that link to alsa , so look in the app you're using
[18:17] <bhast2> thanks Troy
[18:17] <WeThePeople> is it possible to have a secure wifi connection at a motel
[18:17] <Troy^> bhast2: Smuxi is a very neat irc client if your looking for something neat
[18:18] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, doubtful
[18:18] <bhast2> ok cause I am using xchat
[18:18] <bhast2> I will look at it
[18:18] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> I thought, all gnome apps would go through pulseaudio.
[18:18] <mutio> WeThePeople // the owners of the motel will be giggling at all your web browsing
[18:19] <WeThePeople> not really
[18:19] <BluesKaj> they do Markus_on_Ubuntu , but they source from alsa , except webaudio
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, you could try pavucontrol , for input and output settings  , it should work
[18:21] <mutio> WeThePeople // the point being that as the providers of the wifi, they can have as much access to every packet as they want to, which mught mean they'll be giggling like Beavis and Butthead
[18:22] <WeThePeople> mutio, im talking about other guests
[18:22] <Eagleman> Which version of ejabberd is in the repository?
[18:22] <WeThePeople> secure from other guests
[18:23] <auronandace> !info ejabberd | Eagleman
[18:24] <Tico> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash scren, someone can help me with it?
[18:24] <Eagleman> auronandace aand what if i need 2.1.6?
[18:25] <Chris123> hey guys
[18:26] <auronandace> Eagleman: are you running 12.04
[18:26] <Eagleman> yesa
[18:26] <sfears> ubuntucrazy: what's up?
[18:26] <auronandace> Eagleman: why do you need that version?
[18:26] <Eagleman> for Acrhipel
[18:27] <Chris123> can somebody help me?
[18:27] <auronandace> Eagleman: whats that?
[18:27] <rocky_> hello folks
[18:27] <Eagleman> A KVM manager
[18:27] <Tico> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn0k70gvtf72ch9/2012-09-09%2020.18.51.jpg
[18:27] <pth> Chris123: What is your problem?
[18:29] <rocky_> i have a question how to copy pwd to clipboard, i know this can be done thru mouse right click or using shift insert, i am looking for a commond to copy pwd to clipboard
[18:29] <Eagleman> So auronandace how do i get 2.1.6?
[18:30] <Scott___> rocky_: CTRL+C ?
[18:30] <rocky_> Scott___, this is cancel command shortcut
[18:30] <auronandace> Eagleman: why won't 2.1.10 work?
[18:30] <Chris123> pth: I was trying to install Ubuntu but it didn?t work until I changed the "OS Installer" (or something like this) option in the BIOS to "Others" instead of "Windows". After Ubuntu was installed alongside Win7 I tried booting Win7 again but I got stuck at a black screen. Setting the Option back to "Windows" didn?t solve the problem so I formatted my hard drive. Is there another way to somehow install Ubuntu alongside Win7?
[18:30] <Scott___> rocky_, ctrl+shift+c then
[18:30] <Eagleman> o wait
[18:31] <Eagleman> i am sorry
[18:31] <Eagleman> i tought it was 2.1.6
[18:31] <Eagleman> so it should work
[18:31] <dr_willis> !info xclip
[18:31] <rocky_> Scott___, this doesn't works
[18:32] <mutio> Chris123 // did you install to a separate harddrive or to the same one?
[18:32] <dr_willis> theres a few cli clipboard tools in the repos
[18:32] <pth> rocky_: How about xclip: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/xclip-linux-insert-files-command-output-intoclipboard/
[18:32] <Chris123> mutio it was on the same harddrive
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, This a msdos partitioning setup?
[18:33] <mutio> Chris123 // then it's quite possible you broke win 7's boot sector
[18:33] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Can you explain to me what you mean by this?
[18:33] <Chris123> mutio what was my mistake?
[18:33] <mutio> Chris123 // it's safer to install to a separate harddrive
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Some HD's have a gpt setup or remnants of one can you rub sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the results.
[18:34] <Chris123> mutio I only got one but would installing it to another partition solve the problem?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> run*
[18:34] <Jordan_U> Chris123: mutio: It's perfectly safe to install both OSs to the same drive.
[18:35] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Im on windows atm.
[18:35] <Jordan_U> Chris123: You've already "formatted" the drive, so you've lost both the original Windows install and the new Ubuntu install?
[18:35] <Chris123> Jordan_U Yes but I can reinstall them ofc
[18:35] <googlefan12> bsod is bad
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Is there an unallocated space now for ubuntu, and do you know the number of partitions you have now, from being loked at from ubuntu?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> looked*
[18:36] <mutio> Chris123 // did you install ubuntu on the same partition as win 7?
[18:36] <pth> rocky_: pwd | xclip  - did it work?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Do you know if your firmware is UEFI?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> thats what I wonder as well.
[18:37] <googlefan12> ...
[18:37] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Uh I used the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows7" so I guess Ubuntu managed the partitions but there was no unallocated space before I did this
[18:37] <googlefan12> im waiting for the train...
[18:37] <Chris123> mutio yes it was the same partition
[18:38] <rocky_> pth, sorry this did not worked
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Ah well your best help here is Jordan_U if they have the time to help you. ;)
[18:38] <rocky_> it is not copying to clipboard
[18:38] <Chris123> Jordan_U No i don?t know. Where can I display it?
[18:39] <dr_willis> rocky_:  the gnome clipbord is not the same as the x selection buffer. xclip may need some options, or you may need a tool like glipper to sync the 2
[18:39] <mutio> Chris123 // if you don't have a second harddrive, the next safest option is to install ubuntu on a separate partition
[18:39] <Chris123> mutio Alright. That?s probably what Im going to do next.
[18:40] <Jordan_U> Chris123: It would be somewhere in your motherboard's documentation, and there's probably a way to tell if Windows was installed via UEFI from within Windows but I don't know it.
[18:40] <mutio> Chris123 // after you partition the drive, you'd need to reinstall windows first before ubuntu
[18:40] <pth> rocky_: It is working for me. Which application do you want to paste into?
[18:41] <rocky_> i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste
[18:41] <Jordan_U> Chris123: I would recommend simply installing Ubuntu again, using the guided partitioning rather than setting anything up manually, and come back here if you have problems booting Windows again and we'll get you fixed up.
[18:41] <rocky_> pth,  i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste
[18:41] <rocky_> pth, or even in the browser also
[18:42] <exodus> Chris123, what seems to be the problem?
[18:42] <Chris123> Jordan_U I did use the guided partitioning thats why Im confused what couldve gone wrong.
[18:42] <pth> rocky: If I write "pwd | xclip" and afterwards press the middle button inside the window, the present directory path is pasted into the window.
[18:42] <Chris123> mutio Yes I did install windows already.
[18:42] <pth> rocky_: That's the middle mouse button.
[18:42] <rocky_> pth, i am using laptop mousepad
[18:43] <Jordan_U> Chris123: It's hard to tell without being able to look at how things ended up after the install. If the same thing happens again, it should be pretty easy for me to figure out why and how to fix it.
[18:43] <pth> rocky_: Me too.
[18:43] <Chris123> exodus I installed Ubuntu alongside Win7, before I could do this I set "OS Installer" option in the BIOS from "Windows" to "Others" (dont know if this is important), then installed ubuntu, I could boot ubuntu but not Win7 after the instalation was completed
[18:43] <pth> rocky_: Do you have a middel button
[18:43] <exodus> Chris-D, was Windows an option in the boot menu?
[18:44] <Trijit> any1 familiar with cisco vpn client on ubunrtu?
[18:44] <googlefan12> This is the first time I heard Pizza Hut!!! I had no idea there was a Pizza Hut version. Wow... ya learn something new everyday!!!
[18:44] <rocky_> pth, i think it can click with both mouse buttons then it works middle
[18:44] <Chris123> Jordan_U Alright thanks for helping, I will install Ubuntu now using the guided partitioning again and come back here if the problem persists.
[18:44] <Chris123> exodus Yes I could chose windows but instead of booting I got stuck at a black screen
[18:45] <Chris123> exodus Ubuntu booted without a problem though
[18:45] <Jordan_U> Chris123: You're welcome.
[18:45] <exodus> Chris-D, ok, is your computer a laptop?
[18:45] <pth> rocky_: Try "pwd | xclip <return>" and then "xclip -o <return>" What does it produce?
[18:45] <Chris123> exodus no
[18:45] <exodus> Chris123, ok, are you familiar with partitions and filesystem terminology?
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, yes it's middle directory
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, sorry it s pwd
[18:46] <Chris123> exodus Not really, I know what a partition is and I know that there are filesystems but thats all
[18:46] <bjv> Using 12.04 just now, my usb input stopped responding again. When i click on unity launch, it just hovers. i cannot click to activate anything, BUT if i close the laptop lid and open, the lockscreen *does* respond to clicks.. when im back to desktop it no longer works. How can i troubleshoot this?
[18:46] <pth> rocky_: Does it work for you? I didnt understand your last two posts.
[18:46] <bjv> very reproducible, well, for now it is. not clear what caused it
[18:46] <n1ckn4me09876543> I have 2 O.S. installed,  I recently installed another one so now there are 3 O.S installed on my hdd,  when I use the UPDATE-GRUB command, it only detects 2 O.S and not the recent one, help!
[18:46] <exodus> Chris123, ok, before you go ahead and reinstall Ubuntu, you can try opening a terminal window in Ubuntu and running a command
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, yes it works thank you
[18:47] <pth> rocky_: Great. Have a good evening!
[18:47] <exodus> Chris123, try "sudo update-grub"
[18:47] <Tico> Hi, starting LightDM Display Manager fails, i found a solution to reinstall lightdm via apt-get but there's no connection to use apt-get?
[18:47] <rocky_> pth, you too
[18:47] <exodus> Chris123, without the quotes of course.
[18:47] <Jordan_U> n1ckn4me09876543: What specifically are the other OSs? Can you pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[18:47] <bjv> It's clearly not a problem with my input device or drivers, because the loghtscreen works. if i sudo service lightdm restart everything will be fine, (this has happened before)   How can I track down what the problem is?
[18:47] <auronandace> n1ckn4me09876543: what OS's
[18:47] <bjv> *lock
[18:47] <Chris123> exodus I already formatted my hard drive and installed Windows again
[18:48] <Chris123> exodus You could say I panicked :/
[18:48] <exodus> Chris123, haha ok
[18:48] <googlefan12>  Sigourney didn't say "Screw that!" on set.
[18:48] <exodus> Chris-D, Well, doing manual partitioning is something to be done carefully, specially if you have important information
[18:48] <exodus> Chris-D, mistype, sry.
[18:49] <googlefan12> ...
[18:49] <googlefan12> uhh
[18:49] <exodus> Chris123, that was for you. So, pretty much, Windows needs a partition of its own.
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus I did not do it manually, I used the option which the installer gave me
[18:49] <exodus> Chris123, Windows 7 actually uses 2 partitions
[18:49] <googlefan12> POP!!!!
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus Yes I know, thats why I used "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus any chances the installer confused something?
[18:50] <googlefan12> MY WINDOWS XP IS DOWNSTAIRS
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, ok, it shouldn't have. Try installing Ubuntu now.
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, it should detect Windows in the proper partition and install.
[18:50] <Chris123> exodus Alright, thank you for your help, hope to see you in some minutes
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, some computers have weird Windows partitions, sometimes it can get messy.
[18:51] <ozette> how fix audio problems in flash
[18:51] <exodus> Chris123, what's important is to note how many partitions Windows is using.
[18:51] <Foxhound-Z> Can anyone help me configure my wireless USB card?
[18:51] <pth> ozette: Can you be specific?
[18:51] <Foxhound-Z> It's a Tenda w311m ( using Ralink 5370 via lsusb)
[18:51] <Chris123> exodus Windows is on C:, I got a partition for my data D: and "System Reserved K:"
[18:52] <Chris123> exodus I guess K is the second windows partition you are talking about
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> I installed the drivers following this post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800178
[18:52] <Tico> i use ubuntu 12.04 and it fails starting lightdm display manager pls help
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, I see, ok, let me explain a bit
[18:52] <Bahaman> Hi, does anyone hi im getting a funny message about someone requesting a CTCP VERSION
[18:52] <Bahaman> what is that about? :o
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> I configured the wireless supplicant.conf file and attempted to connect
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> but it's not working
[18:52] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195206/    sda1- Ubuntu 12.04   sda2-Win7  sda3-Win8      win7 is the newly installed one that wont get detected
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, hard-drives can only have 4 main partitions. They can either be primary, or extended.
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, extended partitions can contain more partitions
[18:53] <ozette> pth, I'm experiencing sound problems in Chrome and Firefox when I'm at youtube or justintv
[18:53] <ozette> Sound either plays real slow, or real quick
[18:53] <fluzios> Bahaman: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#ctcpversion
[18:53] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:    win8 used to be sda2  but when i installed win7  between  ubuntu and win8,  win7 became sda2 and win8 became sda3,  so weird lol
[18:53] <exodus> Chris123, Windows loves taking up primary partitions. So I'm going to guess you have 3 primary partitions, leaving just 1 for Ubuntu which should use an extended partition for all its things. Just go ahead and install Ubuntu with the guided partitioning and come back.
[18:53] <ozette> like my speakers are in water
[18:54] <Chris123> exodus Alright I will do this, thanks once again!
[18:54] <exodus> Chris123, when addressing your issues it's important to talk about your partitions, that will help clarify your problem.
[18:54] <pth> ozette: I have experienced out of sync sound on youtube but not the things you mention, sorry, cant help.
[18:54] <Jordan_U> n1ckn4me09876543: Have you tried booting from the Windows 8 entry?
[18:54] <deadmund> foxbuntu: Are you sure about that chipset?  linuxwireless.org does not list it as supported.
[18:54] <ozette> pth, weird .. I can't even type in the search bar at youtube
[18:54] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, Ralink RT5370?
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> I'm 99% sure.
[18:55] <ozette> pth, are you using 12.04?
[18:55] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: I thought of that.  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB
[18:55] <pth> ozette: Yes
[18:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U not yet, brb
[18:55] <ozette> pth, This problem is so annoying, Only way to resolve is to restart my system
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, well, Ralink supplies its own set of Linux drivers, which I did install
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, and iwconfig ra0 scanning actually works
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> and shows my access point
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Then it's working!
[18:56] <deadmund> most likely
[18:56] <pth> ozette: Try chrome://plugins/ in chrome and tell me the version of the flash plugin.
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> BUT...
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> It's not connecting
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: What is the issue?
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> for the sake of argument, I disabled all encryption
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Have you tried without any encryption?
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> and left my access point open
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> yeap
[18:56] <FloodBot1> Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <sliddjur> Can someone help me out, i did chmod 760 to a folder. the user is within the correct group, but i still cant enter it. do i need 770?
[18:57] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: What do you see in dmesg about things?  You can pastebin if you want.  I'll be right back in about 5 - 10 minutes (bathroom)
[18:57] <bhast2> i figured it out update the system when I picked update when I installed but I guess not
[18:57] <ozette> Flash (2 files) - Version: <IP_ADDRESS>,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31
[18:57] <ozette> pth, Version: <IP_ADDRESS>,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31
[18:58] <david__> hello all. If I install a program that uses a tarball extension, how can I uninstall it ?
[18:58] <pth> ozette: Same here. Strange.
[18:58] <ozette> pth, I guess it's the latest
[18:58] <funkyb> looking for help with a casper question.  Should I just throw it in the channel?
[18:58] <ozette> pth, Hmm ok, I was wondering if I was the only one experiencing this
[18:58] <greenit> hi, i want to report a bug with the touchpad, but i don't know which package-name i shall provide when i type "ubuntu-bug"
[18:59] <bekks> david__: a tarball is just an archive. You extract it, do something, and your program is installed. It depends on that "do something" what you have to do to uninstall it.
[18:59] <ikonia> david__: it really depends what is contained within the tarball
[18:59] <pth> ozette: Maybe an idea would be to remove the plugin and let chrome install it again next time a flash is hit on a page.
[19:00] <ozette> pth, good idea i'll try that
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, hmm
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, ok, encryptionless connections seem to work
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> so  I guess it's an error on my part on how I configured etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.confg
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> conf*
[19:02] <pth> david__: As far as I know you only can if the makefile has an uninstall target.
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> But there's a more pressing question. Right now I was able to configure my wireless device and connect it to my access point via command line
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> But I want to use the Network connections GUI front end
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> However, it doesn't seem to detect my card or any  access points
[19:03] <greenit> how can i report a touchpad-bug in ubuntu?
[19:03] <IdleOne> greenit: you can report against xserver-xorg-input-multitouch that should get the bug to the right people but if it isn't they will reassign it to the correct package
[19:03] <greenit> IdleOne, thx :)
[19:03] <IdleOne> sure
[19:03] <Bahaman> Is anyone using VirtualBox here? Im trying to transfer an ISO file (I installed the extension pack) but it somehow wont prompt with anything only on the "host"..
[19:04] <Bahaman> Im using ubuntu and running Win7 in the VM
[19:05] <21WAAFEW9> If I kill networkManager, will I loose internet? The little f***er is using 100% of one core doing nothing
[19:05] <dr_willis> Bahaman:  you could treat the 2 os's as 2 real machines. and use ssh/scp/ftp or samba to transfer files
[19:05] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: probably!  Can you pastebin that file?
[19:05] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: there is no need for that language please.
[19:05] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if you have to star out a word - don't use it
[19:06] <bekks> Bahaman: What do you mean by "try to transfer"? And why do you refer to the extension pack?
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: okay, but what is the answer to my question+
[19:06] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: The device does not show up in the gui?  Show me your /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:06] <gordonjcp> ikonia: tbh I'm more offended by it when it's starred out...
[19:06] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: I didn't read your question as I lost interests as soon as I saw your use of language
[19:06] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I can see that point
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: ...
[19:06] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: ..... means nothing, it's just dots
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> Can I kill NetworkManager without loosing network?
[19:07] <IdleOne> 21WAAFEW9: I'm not 100% sure but I think you will lose internet connection if you kill network manager
[19:07] <gordonjcp> ikonia:  I find euphemism peculiarly offensive, I don't know why
[19:07] <gordonjcp> 21WAAFEW9: if you do lose network, just re-run nm-applet
[19:07] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // kill it and find out. you can always reboot if you lose all net
[19:07] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: depends, mostly if you kill it and re-spawn it it will be fine
[19:07] <mpma> SUp
[19:07] <ikonia> you don't need to reboot
[19:07] <21WAAFEW9> mutio: I dont want to disconnect from irc
[19:07] <Bahaman> bekks: I have VB running and booted Win7. When I insert my USB stick into my computer it only prompts in Ubuntu and not in the VM (win7).
[19:07] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: are you using dhcp ?
[19:08] <21WAAFEW9> yes
[19:08] <dr_willis> Bahaman:  you need to configure vbox to access the 'real' usb stick
[19:08] <Bahaman> Oh
[19:08] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: you should be able to kill it and respawn it before it re-checks for a lease.
[19:08] <Bahaman> I'll look into that then
[19:08] <bekks> Bahaman: Then you have to pass it through to your guest instead using it on the host - as described in the documentation of virtualbox (pretty good documentation, I have to admit)
[19:09] <Bahaman> bekks: I'll look into it , im fairly new but thanks:)!
[19:09] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it's just two lines : 1) auto lo 2) iface lo inet loopback
[19:09] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: I managed to start my cpufan, maybe that will cool it down
[19:09] <Foxhoundz> That's all that's written on that file
[19:09] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: cpu temperature doesn't make it use more/less cpu
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: really?  sudo service network restart
[19:10] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if network manager is using %100 cpu, cooling it won't make it use less
[19:10] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: Since when? Every decent intel chip throttles itself if it is too warm
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Usually the devices do not show up in the gui because they're defined in /etc/network/interfaces.  What is hooking in your wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: sudo service networking restart **
[19:10] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: limiting it's processor scalability is not % utilization
[19:10] <Foxhoundz> okay one moment
[19:10] <mutio> for some cpu settings, the cpu will try to turn it's speed down the hotter it gets
[19:10] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: cpu MHz         : 800.000
[19:10] <gordonjcp> ikonia: it will if you cool it enough ;-)
[19:11] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: On an 1.8ghz core
[19:11] <gordonjcp> ikonia: let me just get my liquid helium and I'll show you a thing
[19:11] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if it's 1mhz or 1000000mhz, network manager shouldn't be using %100
[19:12] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: that is true
[19:12] <compdoc> gordonjcp is showing off his liquid helium again
[19:12] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // what does "top" show for system load?
[19:14] <maladore> can someone help with an irc server setup?
[19:14] <21WAAFEW9> mutio: 2.89 2.18 3.14
[19:14] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // that is very high for any time past boot time
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, network: unrecognized service
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> I just rebooted my PC
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> so my wifi was disabled again
[19:15] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: sorry: sudo service networking restart   but I just remembered that they disabled the 'restart' option.  So yeah, you have reboot
[19:16] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: what disabled your wifi?  I don't understand?
[19:16] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // it could easily have to do with your cpu turning it's speed down to 800mhz. do you have any settings in your bios for "cool and quiet"?
[19:16] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it wasn't disabled, but it didn't save the wireless settings
[19:16] <Foxhoundz> I rebooted my PC after downloading some video drivers
[19:17] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: so on reboot the wireless is not working?  Is that what you're saying?
[19:17] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, that's correct
[19:18] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Do you know how to 'reactive' it once you're rebooted?
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> I have to go back to the command line and bring the interface up, and configure the ssid settings iwconfig
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> each time
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> but it now has a network connecTIon
[19:19] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: in your /etc/network/interfaces file add a line for you wlan0 device that is identical to your eth0
[19:19] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: do NOT have a "auto wlan0" line
[19:20] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, ...what eth0? There is no information for eth0 in the interfaces file
[19:20] <Foxhoundz> so what should I be adding on there?
[19:20] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: pastebin your interfaces file please:  paste.ubuntu.com
[19:21] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: I'll make the change and show you the result.  Trying to explain it is too difficult
[19:21] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195274/
[19:21] <Foxhoundz> That's all thats in there
[19:21] <klotzek> Hello.
[19:24] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Make it like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195280/
[19:24] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: then reboot
[19:24] <andy> Hi guys.
[19:24] <andy> I'm having a bit of an issue.
[19:25] <Meris> Is it possible to logon into 2 X-Window sessions, using 2 users on the same computer. Both sessions having a full desktop experience?
[19:25] <andy> I'm using Pinguy OS 12, and I can't figure out how to change the screen resolution.
[19:25] <yuri_> hi. How do I make a hostAP in ubuntu's NetworkManager? The only option I see currently is AdHoc mode.
[19:25] <Meris> andy, sorry, you'll have to goto to the Pinguy support channel instead.
[19:25] <auronandace> andy: not supported here
[19:25] <andy> k
[19:26] <andy> I understand.  I was in their channel and got no response.
[19:26] <andy> that's why i came here, knowing it's ubuntu based.
[19:26] <dr_willis> Meris:  check out 'multiseat' features of x and lightdm. its possible. theres also some hardware that makes it easier ive read reviews of.
[19:26] <DWSR> Is there a guide or going from Ubuntu desktop to Ubuntu server?
[19:26] <klotzek> I've got ubuntu 12.10 x64 and im wondering what part of the system is compiled on x64 and another one is emulated on libs32. Can someone give me a clue ?
[19:27] <auronandace> andy: still not supported here
[19:27] <dr_willis> DWSR:  just install the services you want...
[19:27] <andy> I understand, I was just explaining my rationale.
[19:27] <DWSR> dr_willis: I want to rip out X.
[19:27] <Meris> dr_willis, I'm planning a "hotseat" config instead
[19:27] <andy> as to why I came here.
[19:27] <DWSR> And the associated packages with ubuntu-desktop, like libreoffice.
[19:27] <dr_willis> DWSR:  fire up package manager and do it then
[19:28] <DWSR> dr_willis: How can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop and install everything referenced by ubuntu-server?
[19:28] <dr_willis> DWSR:  or just use the text mode to boot to the console
[19:28] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, that took a while to reboot
[19:28] <DWSR> Without horribly horribly breaking things in my existing install?
[19:28] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, now what?
[19:28] <gordonjcp> DWSR: why not just nuke and reinstall?
[19:28] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: The gui should see your wifi card.  Does it?
[19:28] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Also, remove auto wlan0  (I believe) to make the boot faster
[19:28] <dr_willis> i dont see the point in removeing the stuff really.
[19:29] <DWSR> gordonjcp: Lots of work, mostly. apt doing all the heavy lifting for me means I don't care.
[19:29] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it did not :(
[19:29] <DWSR> dr_willis: Because it's a very low-power server?
[19:29] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: mmmm, what gui client are you using?
[19:29] <dr_willis> DWSR:  if x is not running.. its not using resources
[19:29] <DWSR> dr_willis: No, but other stuff related to being a desktop is. bluetoothd, etc.
[19:30] <dr_willis> not with text mode i belive..
[19:30] <maladore> any one can help setting up and irc server?
[19:30] <Meris> andy, the different distributions have the most differences in the way their control panels are set up, even Linux Mint, a closer cousin than Pinguy OS has this organised differently. You see why we can't help you with your question? Maybe Freenode has a separate #pinguy support channel?
[19:30] <DWSR> dr_willis: It definitely is.
[19:30] <krababbel> DWSR: just reinstall
[19:30] <DWSR> krababbel: There has to be a guide for this. I'm pretty sure I've actually seen one somewhere on the Ubuntu site.
[19:30] <OerHeks> !ipv6 | deadmund, Foxhoundz i decreased boottime with 9 sec. by disable IPv6
[19:31] <deadmund> OerHeks: great
[19:31] <krababbel> DWSR: there is no easy way, you go through the packages and see what happens if you remove
[19:31] <Meris> Oerheks, that's impressive, but in the end it will be the other way around ;-)
[19:31] <calico> Does anyone one if the broadcom wireless have been solved already in the current Ubuntu version? I tried hard to migrate to Ubuntu some months ago but the wireless problems were a deal breaker
[19:31] <deadmund> calico: I am very good with those cards.  Which do you have?  I can tell you if I can get it working and then show you how.
[19:31] <DWSR> calico: It works fine on my laptop which has a Broadcom chip. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[19:31] <dr_willis> calico:  broadcom makes a lot of different wireless chipsets
[19:31] <bekks> calico: Please beb more specific. I am using Ubuntu with broadcom chipsets for years now.
[19:31] <OerHeks> !bcm
[19:32] <Meris> calico, the Wireless support differs by kernel version, not really across distro's...Check out the linux hardware compat. DB and lookup your model of Wifi chipset
[19:32] <calico> Well I don't really know, I'm just an average user... But my internet connection was REALLY unstable, constantly disconnecting, reconnectin, slow, etc
[19:32] <DWSR> krababbel: Will -desktop conflict with -server if I install both simultaneously?
[19:33] <HardKoreMofo> hmm... how come /list doesn't work?
[19:33] <Meris> !hardware | calico
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> anyone here using quassel
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Yes.
[19:33] <calico> tnx
[19:33] <Jellyg00se> Hi all, more of a grep terminal question, I'm trying to remove all files recursively within directories where they have been created with a (1) in the name i.e. song(1).mp3, I tried ls -R * | grep -r "(1)" * which lists a lot of files but ALL of them, and then I also wish to pipe an rm to it, any help would be appreciated, thankyou :)
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> DWSR can you tell me if there's a way to keep my window layout when I close
[19:33] <DWSR> krababbel: And can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop that isn't required by anything else?
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> It keeps resetting every time
[19:33] <tking> please i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Mine seems to do that just fine.
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: What version are you using?
[19:33] <d00durk00l> Hey can someone help me please
[19:34] <Cheesewheel> DWSR: 0.98
[19:34] <Cheesewheel> 0.8*
[19:34] <DWSR> I'm on 0.73
[19:34] <DWSR> Seems to work OK.
[19:34] <d00durk00l> how do you get a list of the channels on here?
[19:34] <Meris> Jellyg00se, try the #bash channel and read up on tldp.org
[19:34] <Eagleman> How do i install libvirt on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:34] <Edler> hey guys
[19:34] <d00durk00l> when I use the list command it doesn't work
[19:34] <Edler> i'm on ubuntu server 10.04
[19:34] <Edler> i added a ppa
[19:34] <Eagleman> a decent version of libvirt (0.8.7+) or trunk version.
[19:34] <Edler> but now i want to remove it
[19:34] <Edler> how do i do that ?
[19:35] <DWSR> d00durk00l: /list works fine here. Check your status window.
[19:35] <SamL> Afternoon all
[19:35] <xangua> !ppa-purge | Edler
[19:35] <d00durk00l> I am using smuxi
[19:35] <Jellyg00se> Meris, thank you
[19:35] <Edler> ppa purge isn't available on 10.04
[19:35] <krababbel> DWSR: it will be complicated, but aptitude will try to solve dependencies for you, there are too many packages involved.
[19:35] <d00durk00l> Sorry been a LONG time since I used irc trying to remember all the commands
[19:35] <deadmund> calico: Do you have Ubuntu installed right now?  I can tell you the terminal command to use to determine your wireless card's chipset.  Then we can determine if it is current supported in Ubuntu.
[19:35] <DWSR> d00durk00l: I'm not familiar with your particular client. Read the documentation. The command works properly.
[19:35] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: google, "install libvirt on ubuntu", first hit ;-)
[19:35] <SamL> I'm having some trouble installing 12.0.4 on a macbook and I'm looking for some assistance if anybody has a moment
[19:36] <gordonjcp> !ask | SamL
[19:36] <Meris> Meris, you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)
[19:36] <DWSR> krababbel: Should I use aptitude over just apt? I'm assuming aptitude does more advanced dependency resolution?
[19:36] <SamL> lol what?
[19:36] <Meris> Jellyg00se, , you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)
[19:36] <xangua> !aptitude | DWSR
[19:36] <krababbel> DWSR: so try to remove the ubuntu desktop metapackage and install the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard packages, thoese are cli only
[19:36] <DWSR> SamL: Ask your question. Don't ask about getting help.
[19:36] <SamL> I just did
[19:36] <tking> please i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack
[19:36] <bekks> Jellyg00se: UNTESTED: find . -type f -iname "*(1)*.*" -exec echo "Please delete:" {} \;
[19:37] <Noobuntu> anyone here having trouble with system crashes lately?
[19:37] <krababbel> DWSR: aptitude is more user friendly, has a bug regarding ia32-libs though, if you are on 64bit.
[19:37] <SamL> I've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Other_Partitioning_Options_Multi-booting
[19:37] <gordonjcp> SamL: no, you said you're having some trouble
[19:37] <bekks> Noobuntu: Why?
[19:37] <Noobuntu> nautilus crashed like 3 times yesterday
[19:37] <Meris> tking, try #virtualbox and #backtrack instead.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> SamL: don't expect anyone to sit and tease it out of you line by line
[19:37] <Noobuntu> and today it was some Xorg complaint
[19:37] <bekks> Noobuntu: Thats an application crash, not a system crash :)
[19:37] <DWSR> SamL: No, you didn't. You just said "It don't work". Try asking something like "I'm having problems installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook. I get error X when I try. Does anyone know how to fix it?"
[19:37] <SamL> ok
[19:38] <d00durk00l> DWSR: There is a resume command for DCC file transfer correct?
[19:38] <Noobuntu> yeah - sorry  - yesterday's was an appicaton crash
[19:38] <Noobuntu> today my system crashed
[19:38] <Noobuntu> :)
[19:38] <DWSR> d00durk00l: Again, no idea. I can tell you that DCC is most likely restricted on Freenode.
[19:38] <SamL> I've installed ubuntu on the macbook, however when I go to boot, it returns operating system not found or the ? File folder
[19:38] <gordonjcp> SamL: "I'm installing Ubuntu on my macbook and I haven't a clue where to start" would be acceptable, too
[19:38] <DWSR> d00durk00l: Also, check your client's documentations.
[19:38] <pizzadude> I like your name Noobuntu
[19:38] <gordonjcp> SamL: aha, you want to look up refit
[19:38] <Noobuntu> just trying to be honest :)
[19:38] <Troy^> DCC file transfer is terrible
[19:38] <karsten> greetings! im usting an hp probook 4535s and the battery performance is bad on ubuntu. 1 hour max. on windows its 6 hours. would it have an effect installing the proper driver?
[19:38] <yellowhat> can someone give me a hint what is the slow part i need to tweak : http://i.imgur.com/e0FmM.png
[19:39] <d00durk00l> what can I use to send a large file to my friend?
[19:39] <d00durk00l> any suggestions
[19:39] <DWSR> karsten: Does your laptop have a switchable graphics card in it?
[19:39] <SamL> alrighty, i was reading a bit about that gordonjcp, I don't have osx cd (at home) or osx installed anymore (yes it was a stupid move)
[19:39] <yellowhat> i have posted a boot chart but i cannot read it
[19:39] <Troy^> d00durk00l: ftp or sftp
[19:39] <gordonjcp> SamL: you can do without it, but to be honest it's easier to install refit, then get that to chainload grub
[19:39] <bekks> d00durk00l: scp, ftp, or some file hoster.
[19:39] <SamL> Also, it seemed like you only needed refit if you are multi-booting
[19:39] <Meris> d00durk00l, how big?
[19:39] <DWSR> d00durk00l: http://mediafire.com, ftp, scp,
[19:39] <pizzadude> d00durk00l how about dropbox
[19:39] <karsten> DWSR, yes, it has
[19:39] <Noobuntu> anyone had any system crashes related to Xorg lately?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> SamL: yeah, it *does* help if you're dual-booting with OSX
[19:39] <ikonia> Noobuntu: what does it matter what others have - ask your problem/question
[19:39] <bekks> Noobuntu: Please investigate the logs to tell us why your X crashed. :)
[19:39] <d00durk00l> drop box bandwidth slow and only allows 2gb on free account
[19:39] <SamL> if that is no longer an opto
[19:39] <DWSR> karsten: That's why. Ubuntu by default uses the discrete GPU and doesn't normally handle switching without some additional installation.
[19:40] <bekks> Noobuntu: You will find them in /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[19:40] <SamL> *option, im not entirely fucked though gordonjcp?
[19:40] <d00durk00l> ftp is a good idea....
[19:40] <ikonia> SamL: dump the language pleas.e
[19:40] <ikonia> please
[19:40] <Noobuntu> thanks - I will check it right away
[19:40] <d00durk00l> Don't know why I didn't think of that
[19:40] <DWSR> karsten: My laptop has about 2h of battery life on Ubuntu, but 7h on Windows because of that reason. The discrete GPU sucks a lot of power.
[19:40] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: ftp is never a good idea
[19:40] <DWSR> ^^
[19:40] <Troy^> lol gordonjcp
[19:40] <karsten> okay.. so installing the amd driver would solve the problem? or disabling it in uefi? DWSR
[19:40] <d00durk00l> kk gordon suggestions?
[19:40] <SamL> thanks gordonjcp, ill take a look into it then
[19:40] <bekks> Troy^: Thats no joke. Thats true.
[19:41] <Troy^> well deep down it is not but really it's fine
[19:41] <DWSR> karsten: Depending on your card, you can try installing fglrx (AMD's proprietary driver) and Catalyst Control Center and that MIGHT work.
[19:41] <Cheesewheel> what's wrong with FTP?
[19:41] <DWSR> karsten: Or you can try vga_switcheroo. Which may also work.
[19:41] <bekks> Cheesewheel: Everything. :) It is insecure.
[19:41] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Unencrypted.
[19:41] <SamL> scp > ftp ;)
[19:41] <HeadlessZombie> cleartext
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: lots of stuff
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: the passwords aren't encrypted
[19:41] <d00durk00l> then setup a ssh tunnel and do a ftp through that
[19:42] <karsten> okay DSWR, thank you a lot. i will try both!
[19:42] <bekks> gordonjcp: Nothing is encrypted.
[19:42] <Troy^> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[19:42] <DWSR> karsten: The "additional drivers" section in Ubuntu's System Settings will allow you to install fglrx
[19:42] <Meris> Cheesewheel, indeed. FTP over WAN belongs right niext to Telnet servers in the museum
[19:42] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: it requires both the server *and* the client to allow arbitrary users to write to anywhere in the filesystem
[19:42] <ghost_> Hallo
[19:42] <bekks> !de | ghost_
[19:42] <DWSR> gordonjcp: chroot =\ That's not strictly speaking true.
[19:42] <gordonjcp> DWSR: do you chroot your FTP client?
[19:42] <Noobuntu> no timestamp in the Xorg logs?? :)
[19:42] <DWSR> Yes. You think that my / is 777?
[19:42] <jagginess> gordonboy i remember that name lol
[19:42] <bekks> Noobuntu: But a timestamp of the file :)
[19:42] <ghost_> qualcuno  scrive italiano???
[19:43] <Chris123> exodus Jordan_U / hey guys, Im back and my problem persists
[19:43] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[19:43] <bhast2> ok I can't get my sec montior to work
[19:43] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: if I construct a suitably evil ftp *server*, I can use it to gain access to your machine by getting your client to download a file
[19:43] <d00durk00l> Okay so does someone have a solution other than FTP then?
[19:43] <subz3r0> have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?
[19:43] <bhast2> it worked on the live disc but not after I installed
[19:43] <jagginess> bhast2, nvidia?
[19:43] <gordonjcp> jagginess: do not confuse me with gordboy
[19:43] <bekks> d00durk00l: sftp or scp. It was already meantioned.
[19:43] <bhast2> yes
[19:43] <d00durk00l> I will be transfering the file wan side so I would prefer a more secure method with less complications
[19:43] <ghost_> grazie ubottu
[19:43] <jagginess> gordonjcp, oops you're not him hahah
[19:43] <DWSR> d00durk00l: SCP or SFTP.
[19:44] <Didji> Hi.  I'm trying to mount a shared folder inside windows on my Ubuntu machine as a directory.  Unfortunately I can't get write access from Ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, check out the twinview option
[19:44] <d00durk00l> kk thx guys
[19:44] <Troy^> d00durk00l: scp is easy you just need to setup an openssh server
[19:44] <calico> deadmund, no, I am currently running win7 but I'm xubuntu virtualbox. It was the same for me - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823812 Do you have any idea if anythings has changed since then
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: Where are you trying to mount it to?
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, you can run nvidia-settings from X and it can also make a sample xorg.conf file for you
[19:44] <Didji> DWSR: /srv/webfolder
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: You don't have write access there as your user, by default.
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, the nvidia-settings gui app can toggle the twinview option for you
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: Which is why you can't mount it there. Try running the mount command as sudo
[19:44] <exodus> Chris123, run: "sudo update-grub" in a terminal, paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/  and pass the link
[19:44] <Didji> DWSR: I'm logged in as an admin.
[19:44] <bhast2> ummm
[19:44] <bhast2> I am new to this
[19:45] <bhast2> what is twinview
[19:45] <Meris> !enter | bhast2
[19:45] <TheJumper> if I switch to a tty above the login field there is the line with the ubuntu release, hostname and tty name. how do I chnage this line?
[19:45] <Didji> DWSR: I am mounting as sudo.  The mounting is working, I have read access, just not write access.
[19:45] <jagginess> bhast2, also, there's a cool app called 'disper' , after you're using twinview, you can use disper to toggle 1 screen or 2 screens to be on
[19:45] <Meris> !nvidia | bhast2
[19:45] <pizzadude> d00durk00l upload the file to bittorrent and have your friend dl it
[19:45] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: change the version of Ubuntu you're running?
[19:45] <d00durk00l> what about ftps?
[19:45] <d00durk00l> that uses ssl correct?
[19:45] <yellowhat> solved my problem with slow bootup by finding this answer:
[19:45] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, i want a custom text ^^
[19:45] <yellowhat> http://superuser.com/questions/286571/ubuntu-slow-startup-time-modprobe
[19:45] <Meris> d00durk00l, true
[19:46] <Noobuntu> so I have got 2 files Xorg.log and Xorg.log.old here
[19:46] <subz3r0> well, you can use SSL with FTP, too!
[19:46] <Chris123> exodus I ran into another problem, I tried installing ndiswrapper in order to use wlan but I cant install it because the Install button is greyed out
[19:46] <Noobuntu> does it create a new log file when Xorg crashes?
[19:46] <yellowhat> apparently i solved it myself 1 year before
[19:46] <subz3r0> install a glftpd and be fine
[19:46] <SamL> gordonjcp, am i able to install refit from ubuntu live boot?
[19:46] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces?
[19:46] <jagginess> Didji, DWSR, sudo isnt needed if you use a gui app like nautilus or konqueror to do a smb share mount
[19:46] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Chris123
[19:47] <Noobuntu> and where would be my best bet of finding the stack trace? the end of the old log file or the begnning of the new log file?
[19:47] <deadmund> calico: Unfortunately the ubuntu forums and ubuntu support in general is filled with the "noise" of thousands of people that have problems and are unable to fix those problems.  Because they are not tech savvy they often cannot fix the problem because they do not understand how to.  Additionally, they are often unable to recognize when the are having the same problem as someone else or not.  Due to this the link you posted likely does not relate to one sp
[19:47] <deadmund> ecific problem.  Additionally, it might be a fixable problem (even at the time those people in the forum had it) and finally.  I'm not 100% convinced you had this 'problem'
[19:47] <Chris123> exodus I googled around a bit and found the solution to run "sudo stop network-manager" and it worked partially, I could install one package but the 2 others are still greyes out
[19:47] <Meris> SamL, yes you can install rEFIt from a LiveCD
[19:47] <SamL> excellent!
[19:47] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: /etc/issue maybe
[19:47] <deadmund> calico: So, no.  I do not know if the 'problem' in that thread is still unsolved.
[19:47] <gordonjcp> SamL: I don't know, possibly
[19:47] <gordonjcp> SamL: I did it from OSX Lion
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Chris123: I will be gone for a few minutes, but I *will* be back (though possibly from my phone where typing will be slow).
[19:47] <Meris> SamL, also consider rEFInd instead
[19:47] <Didji> jagginess, DWSR, the command I'm using is sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest,umask=000 //Host/Share /srv/webfolder
[19:47] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, hmm.. etc issue seems to be just the release of ubuntu.
[19:48] <SamL> any particular reason (out of curiosity)?
[19:48] <subz3r0> have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?
[19:48] <Meris> SamL, more options and can be installed on other OS'es.
[19:48] <SamL> ah very good
[19:48] <jagginess> Didji, i believe it's 'cifs' for -t
[19:48] <DWSR> cifs works.
[19:48] <jagginess> Didji, i also think theres other stuff wrong..
[19:48] <bhast2> jagginess: I got it thanks
[19:48] <Didji> jagginess: like what?
[19:48] <Meris> SamL, afaik rEFIt is MacOSX installable only, that's why I recommend rEFInd.
[19:48] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: read up on how getty works
[19:49] <SamL> So to get this strait, should i partition and install ubuntu prior to instally refind?
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Meris: handy
[19:49] <SamL> indeed
[19:49] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, good idea
[19:49] <Chris123> Jordan_U ubottu I cant download the tool because I cant install ndiswrapper
[19:49]  * jagginess pulling out smb notes
[19:49] <calico> deadmund, k brother, I can't stand this windows crap anymore esp. since I was infected with a keylogger recently, I'm going to install xubuntu again, I hope to see you around again when it comes down to the wireless situation again
[19:49] <Noobuntu> Xorg crashes anyone?
[19:49] <Meris> SamL, no. First install rEFInd, then Ubuntu and any other OS'es ;-)
[19:50] <deadmund> calico: I'll be in this chat for the next several hours probably.  Just PM me to make my client yell :)
[19:50] <dr_willis> ! anyone
[19:50] <calico> k
[19:50] <Meris> SamL, do you use a MacBook and do you want to triple-boot?
[19:50] <Noobuntu> I ve been trying to read the Xorg logs to find the stacktrace...
[19:50] <SamL> i am using a macbook and i jsut want to single boot ubuntu
[19:50] <Noobuntu> I ve got 2 - Xorg.log.old and Xorg.log
[19:51] <jagginess> bhast2, stuff changes over time thats why my head spins.. do modprobe cifs, and modprobe smbfs, tell me which shows up in lsmod<enter>
[19:51] <Noobuntu> where would I find the crash logs? end of .log.old or beginning of .log?
[19:51] <Noobuntu> :-/
[19:51] <sliddjur> How do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?
[19:51] <Meris> SamL, http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[19:51] <subz3r0> Noobuntu, check the timestamps!
[19:51] <Noobuntu> ubuntu >> mac .. IMO :D
[19:51] <bhast2> jagginess: have no clue what you mean there
[19:51] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, oh sorry.. /etc/issue is the right file ^^ thank you :)
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, modprobe cifs (you may need to run it with sudo)
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Can you connect via ethernet, or copy boot info script over via a USB drive?
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, otherwise mount -t cifs won't work
[19:52] <SamL> tango
[19:52] <Noobuntu> well , no timestamps inside the logs :(
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, note if you reboot you dont ever have to type modpobe cifs again
[19:52] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: how big is this file, anyway?
[19:52] <subz3r0> "Noobuntu> ubuntu >> mac"??? Ubuntu =sofware, mac = hardware...
[19:52] <Noobuntu> or am I not reading it right?
[19:53] <jagginess> bhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:53] <jagginess> bhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:53] <Noobuntu> subz3ro: hmm.....
[19:53] <krababbel> Noobuntu: you could delete the log and restart syslogd I believe to have an empty log to start with
[19:53] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: Its about 3.2gb
[19:53] <Meris> SamL, just substitute rEFInd with rEFIt and get installing. One issue about rEFInd, you'll need to enable BIOS-booting in the config file of rEFInd before it can detect any "BIOS"-based bootloaders.
[19:53] <d00durk00l> sorry was just researching the scp protocol
[19:53] <Noobuntu> okay krababbel..
[19:53] <Noobuntu> will do
[19:53] <klj613> hello. with the `fine . -iname '*' -exec ....` does it have a iterator value? 1, 2, 3 etc
[19:53] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: how fast is your internet connecton's upstream?
[19:53] <klj613> find*
[19:53] <d00durk00l> fast enough ;)
[19:53] <d00durk00l> not quite sure sec..
[19:53] <d00durk00l> I know it is quite fast though
[19:54] <jagginess> bhast2, then try the mount -t cifs command
[19:54] <Chris123> Jordan_U I appreciate your help with my boot problem but I would rather try to figure out why I cant install the ndiswrapper packages first
[19:54] <krababbel> Noobuntu: service rsyslog restart
[19:54] <jrib> klj613: why do you ask?
[19:54] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: consider writing it to an SD card and sticking it in the post...
[19:55] <Didji> How do you unmount a mounted samba share without restarting?
[19:55] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: That isn't a option
[19:55] <Noobuntu> krababbel: thank you  :)
[19:55] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: as they used to say, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Transit van full of magtape
[19:55] <Chris123> Jordan_U Ill post RESULTS.txt as soon as I got my internet to work
[19:55] <sliddjur> How do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?
[19:55] <jagginess> d00durk00l, scp is quite obsolete, sftp is the standard under ssh (sftp comes bundled with the ssh server, so just use any ssh/sftp client like filezilla/konqueror/ i think nautilus too can do sftp)
[19:56] <klj613> jrib, i want to rename files to 1, 2, 3 etc
[19:56] <jrib> sliddjur: you would have to use ACLs
[19:56] <d00durk00l> jagginess: he would be using win7
[19:56] <prashant_123456> on my fstab file UUID=108A-FAFC /media/sda6 vfat rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async 0 0              so only root user can create files on sda6
[19:56] <jrib> klj613: I don't think so.  You'd have to do some basic bash scripting as far as I know
[19:56] <d00durk00l> I can deal with my end just want something that can be deployed easy on his
[19:56] <jagginess> Didji, depends which smb client you're using. You don't always have to use the cli
[19:57] <Meris> d00durk00l, if the file is sensitive, you can just encrypt it before sending it on a SD-card. Just use a TrueCrypt volume and you're set.
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: in the early 2000s I was routinely transferring 250GB of data a couple of times a week between a site in England and my local office
[19:57] <Didji> jagginess: I am using the cli, and I'm not aware of any non-cli alternative.
[19:57] <jagginess> d00durk00l, filezilla is also on winbloze/mac (linux of course has it)
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: we had a 2Mbps symmetric line
[19:57] <d00durk00l> Meris: No there is no addy to send it too ;)
[19:57] <jagginess> Didji, i already mentioned a couple.
[19:57] <jrib> sliddjur: documentation for ACLs can be found in the man pages for "setfacl", "getfacl", and "mount" (you need to add the "acl" option for the partition in question)
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: it would take over two weeks to transfer the data over the 2M E1 line
[19:57] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  i think some of those options make no sence when used with a  vfat partition
[19:57] <Noobuntu> krababbel: I was actually using Wubi before - till I tried to update to Precise back in May
[19:57] <Noobuntu> upgrade broke my system :(
[19:57] <Didji> jagginess: right, it's just that I've got this installed now.  I mean obviously there's a way it works.
[19:58] <jagginess> Didji, nautilus (gnome's default file browser), konqueror (kde's or i think it's other alternative standard), and there's filezilla
[19:58] <d00durk00l> jagginess: and filezilla is sftp?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so what we had was, we had a pair of RAID arrays in a 10U rack case
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, ya it does sftp and other type of ftp
[19:58] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: Using what?
[19:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, so what to do with that any solutions
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: masses of SCSI disks, very expensive
[19:58] <Noobuntu> tried to fix it for 3 months - just couldn't get my Wlan working :(
[19:58] <Meris> d00durk00l, I see, well, in that case, go with sftp/ scp
[19:58] <klj613> jrib, instead. is it a way for `-exec` in `find` to run two commands? mv then something else etc
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, when i say sftp, i mean "sftp/ssh"
[19:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ntfs is ok but the problem is with vfat
[19:58] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  i dont know your original problem.. but that fstab entry is 25% garbage.
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: I had a Citroën XM, a fairly fast car with a huge boot and very soft hydraulic suspension so the disks didn't get rattled
[19:58] <krababbel> Noobuntu: well good luck, I got weird behaviour too once, reinstalled a package I never touched, and now it works again :)
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, you just need to install the openssh server on linux, and sftp is available
[19:59] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: and I had a diesel card paid for by the office down south
[19:59] <jrib> krababbel: you could probably put them in bash -c.  #bash might have a better way for you
[19:59] <DWSR> Is there a ubuntu-server metapackage?
[19:59] <DWSR> Or, does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?
[19:59] <krababbel> Noobuntu: but wlan I never had to use (luckily)
[19:59] <d00durk00l> jagginess: Damnit I just realized something I have my linux box behind a second router... damnit... all this to help a guy out
[19:59] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-server
[19:59] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: 200 miles between offices, 250GB of data transferred in four hours - hard to beat that even today
[19:59] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i cannot have write permissions to my vfat only root user can write on it but the thing in ntfs is different any user can write to it
[19:59] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: BRAVO!!!
[20:00] <Noobuntu> krababbel: I couldn't even install anything - it broke all my networking entirely tools
[20:00] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: all that doesn't help me tho :P
[20:00] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: stick an SD card in the post ;-)
[20:00] <jean-michel> hello
[20:00] <Noobuntu> had to wipe everything clean and installed it - this time on a fresh partition
[20:00] <Noobuntu> no wubi :)
[20:00] <d00durk00l> So my ul bandwidth is 1.56mbps
[20:00] <jean-michel> how are you ?
[20:00] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  you need to use the proper dmask and fmask options, or set the uid/gid options of you want a single user to have full access.. or try the ntfs-config tool..
[20:01] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so five hours to transfer, give or take
[20:01] <dr_willis> !vfat | prashant_123456
[20:01] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: I cannot as there is no address to send it too
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, you doing a dualboot there?
[20:01] <Noobuntu> interestingly though - an article I read some months back put Wubi ahead of a dedicated Ubuntu install on some benchmarks :)
[20:01] <Meris> !ask | jean-michel
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, you wish..
[20:01] <Noobuntu> yep - Windows and Ubuntu
[20:01] <calico> Should I install Ubuntu with ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer  or  with unetbootin, what's better?
[20:01] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: I don't like the idea of having a open server for over 5 hours
[20:01] <Noobuntu> jaggginess: Not my opinion - just an article I read
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, wubi means a loopback file on ntfs. There's no article in the world saying that unless it's a noob :)
[20:02] <dr_willis> calico:  one is a wubi install.. is that what you want?
[20:02] <d00durk00l> How do torrents work ?  Do I have to host the file or is uploaded ?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: is at least one of the machines running Linux?
[20:02] <DWSR> Does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?
[20:02] <d00durk00l> I am
[20:02] <Noobuntu> jagginess: that makes sense - and I thought so too - but let me see If i can find that article
[20:02] <d00durk00l> he is not
[20:02] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, where is the problem at all? Just install the openssh-server (sudo apt-get install openssh-server) then configure it for using pubkeys.... then open nautilus from the other side ssh://name@ip:port/ and done.
[20:02] <calico> dr_willis, I'm not sure about the difference in the end results that's why I asked
[20:02] <dr_willis> calico:  if you want a full normal install use the unetbootin, or other tools to make a bootable flash to install form
[20:03] <calico> dr_willis, understood
[20:03] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: what's the guy at the other end got?
[20:03] <Meris> d00durk00l, how much downstream bandwidth do you have?
[20:03] <Didji> jagginess: well, I tried nautilus, and it fails to completely there.
[20:03] <dr_willis> calico:  and run away from wubi.. ;)
[20:03] <d00durk00l> Meris: 2.73
[20:03] <Veryhappy> Hi guys many programs in my Ubuntu crash very often.did I mess up my system already?
[20:03] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: He is using win7
[20:04] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: The guy I am sending to is using win7
[20:04] <Meris> d00durk00l, in MBit/s, or Mbyte/s?
[20:04] <d00durk00l> MBit/s
[20:04] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so he could probably run pscp and just copy it across from your machine, if you gave him an account
[20:04] <Meris> d00durk00l, so how big is this file anyway?
[20:04] <d00durk00l> 3.2gb
[20:05] <d00durk00l> yeah I'm not giving him a account lol
[20:05] <silverarrow> does anyone know how x11 and xorg work?
[20:05] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, so? just tell him to use "WINSCP"
[20:05] <noah_> Question about setting up drives:  Running 12.04LTS.  I have two drives.  An SSD that holds the OS for booting, and a second drive "data" for all the data, home directories, etc. The data drive is encrypted with LUKS.  With my current setup, whenever I reboot, I get a password entry screen to decrypt the data drive, where my home directory is.  This works fine.  The problem is that if I reboot remotely, I'm stuck as I can't enter
[20:05] <noah_> password.  If I keep my home directory on the SSD, there won't be enough room.  If I use a symbolic link, and the encrypted drive isn't mounted, that creates errors and issues.  Suggestions??
[20:05] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  yes....... ;)
[20:05] <dr_willis> !anyone
[20:06] <silverarrow> dr_willis, you are way strict on that one
[20:06] <Meris> noah_, yes, you can redirect the
[20:06] <jarred> Ubuntu Server vs Arch Linux, go
[20:07] <ikonia> no
[20:07] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: well I am behind multiple routers... so I have to go and setup port forwarding .. pain in the ass
[20:07] <HeadlessZombie> lol
[20:07] <dr_willis> jarred:  see ot channel
[20:07] <noah_> Meris:  Message was cut off...
[20:07] <d00durk00l> I was hoping for something easyier
[20:07] <Noobuntu> jagginess: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=2
[20:07] <silverarrow> dr_willis, is there a possibility x11 and open gl could be running without hardware acceleration, like the radeon graphics did not kick in?
[20:08] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  opengl has a software mode.. so yes. its posible
[20:08] <d00durk00l> is the / on ubuntu set as 777 by default?
[20:08] <ikonia> no
[20:09] <dr_willis> d00durk00l:  id say no
[20:09] <Meris> noah_, so I've noticed... You don't *have* to use the homedir for all users on just one drive. You can make a user account, just for logging into your machine, with a tiny homedir on your SSD, after having logged in, you can open up another session from within that terminal, using your main user credentials.
[20:10] <silverarrow> dr_willis, if I suspect the radeon drivers are bypassed is there a way to make them take ?
[20:10] <WeThePeople> how would i find out if my computer has been hacked?
[20:10] <dr_willis> Meris:  you could have home dirs on network nfs shares also. ;)
[20:10] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, something easier? burn it to a dvd and send it to him via IPS
[20:10] <Noobuntu> check your open ports
[20:10] <Meris> dr_willis, true, but I just give a local option first. NFS can be fiddly.
[20:10] <silverarrow> dr_willis, or rather, could I remove opendl packages or are they needed+
[20:10] <Noobuntu> WethePeople: monitor the data leaving your system
[20:11] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  i dont mess with ati. i theres dozens of guides out there about specific ati chipsets and work arounds/problems with them
[20:11] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: He doesn't want to say his address over the phone
[20:11] <WeThePeople> noobuntu, i have a firewall running and sometimes i get random hits
[20:11] <d00durk00l> random hits?  Wow
[20:11] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, LOL
[20:11] <Noobuntu> WeThePeople: I don't understand random hits
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Chris123: OK. I will be in and out for the next few hours.
[20:12] <jagginess> Noobuntu, i do suppose it's doing the actual writing much later, a-sync.. The other performance, the first one shows wubi is slower..
[20:12] <Didji> does anyone know how to mount a windows share in a Ubuntu, and ensure that I have write access?
[20:12] <WeThePeople> noobuntu, from ip addresses
[20:12] <calico> How do I make sure I will not screw up my windows installation while installing ubuntu from flash drive, are there any specifics
[20:12] <Noobuntu> jagginess: Agredd most of the benchmarks make sense
[20:12] <subz3r0> !mount | Didji
[20:12] <WeThePeople> pings
[20:12] <Meris> d00durk00l, nice, (heh, you did *encrypt* the line first, didn't you ? <= just kidding ;-) )
[20:12] <jagginess> Didji, write-access is controlled from the server
[20:12] <WeThePeople> or something
[20:12] <Didji> jagginess: the server is giving write access.
[20:12] <Noobuntu> jagginess: With SQLite, PostgreSQL, and FS-Mark the Wubi setup was dramatically faster, which does raise concerns over data integrity with some operations likely being carried out a-synchronously or batched.
[20:13] <jagginess> Didji, you need to enable "write" permission on the share(from windows), and "write" permission on the ntfs filesystem (again you set this up on windows too)
[20:13] <Didji> subz3r0: yes, I've been using that document for a couple days now.
[20:13] <d00durk00l> Meris: ?
[20:13] <d00durk00l> the first line?
[20:13] <Meris> d00durk00l, I mean the phone line of course ;-) nvm
[20:13] <Noobuntu> WeThePeople: reverse look up the ip next time
[20:13] <d00durk00l> Sorry long day ... dumb it down
[20:13] <Didji> jagginess: yes.  Every other (non-Ubuntu) machine on the network have no problem writting to the share.
[20:13] <jagginess> Noobuntu, that article is two years old.. i can't dispute it because there must be other surveys that counter those findings..
[20:13] <bekks> Noobuntu: That happens because of the async IO in windows. Benchmarking IO times of wubi INSIDE the ubuntu install is a fail by design.
[20:13] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, so you want the super duper easy way.... install ubuntu-one, pack the file with 7zip and a passwort, upload it to ubuntu-one and share the link with him
[20:14] <hjubal> hi, is it possible to mount a Nexus phone in Ubuntu 12.04 using MTP?
[20:14] <d00durk00l> Meris: Oh I could give a crap the stuff I am sending isn't senstive .. He just doesn't want to anounce his addy on his phone
[20:14] <subz3r0> *password
[20:14] <jagginess> bekks, wubi doesn't run in windows, but runs off a loopbackfile on ntfs
[20:14] <jagginess> tsk.
[20:14] <bekks> jagginess: which is merely the same from the point of async IO.
[20:14] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: passwort a file encryption program?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, I use gMTP for my nexus 7
[20:15] <jagginess> bekks, um.. no..
[20:15] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: How much space does ubuntu-one allow for free account?
[20:15] <Meris> d00durk00l, you  could use VoIP over an encrypted channel if "your contact" ;-) is that paranoid.
[20:15] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, trolling around? PACK THE DAMN FILE WITH THE SOFTWARE YOU LIKE
[20:15] <subz3r0> and hand it over to him trought ubuntu-one
[20:15] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, gMTP fails and so mtp-detect
[20:15] <bekks> jagginess: Then please share with us how to enforce sync I/O on ntfs and why that would be faster than async I/O. :)
[20:15] <OerHeks> d00durk00l, how much space do you need?
[20:15] <d00durk00l> 3.2gb
[20:16] <Noobuntu> bekks: Am i missing something here? Sync I/O faster than Async I/o?? :-/
[20:16] <Meris> subz3r0, won't work, unless d00durk00l has a paid account. One has an initial capacity of 2GB.
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, I don't mount it per say other then it is reading the unit and I can load stuff to it, I have not looked for a click on mount.
[20:16] <OerHeks> Meris 5gb*
[20:16] <d00durk00l> Meris: THank you sir
[20:16] <d00durk00l> OerHeks: they changed it recently?
[20:17] <OerHeks> for ubuntu-one that is
[20:17] <Meris> Oerheks, ah, so they increased it? Sweeet.
[20:17] <subz3r0> Meris, split the files... and its 5 gigs for free
[20:17] <bekks> Noobuntu: No, it isnt. async io is faster in almost all use cases.
[20:17] <Noobuntu> bekks: Thats what I thought too :)
[20:17] <subz3r0> and stuff like "he doesnt want to give me his adress on the phone" sounds REALLY ODD, doesnt it?
[20:17] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, gMTP complains "LIBMTP PANIC: failed to open session on second attempt" and hangs
[20:18] <d00durk00l> is there a simple program that can encrypt files via the terminal?
[20:18] <Veryhappy> My KDE is very buggy since I installed ubuntu. Did I break my system and if i did can i repair it and how?
[20:18] <Meris> subz3r0, yes, sounds like a paranoid contact.
[20:18] <jrib> d00durk00l: sure, gpg
[20:18] <Noobuntu> but I didn't understand jagginess
[20:18] <Noobuntu> when he said the test i flawed by design?
[20:18] <Noobuntu> is*
[20:18] <d00durk00l> jrib: Thanks forgot about that
[20:18] <subz3r0> jrib,  and you tell him how gpg works :D
[20:19] <subz3r0> he wants a easy way to handle that thing ;)
[20:19] <subz3r0> an
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, that is about the gist of what I know here, I have a W7 install for using word only, but now has a use for messing with the nexus 7 easily.
[20:19] <Meris> Veryhappy, "break" your system? that is kinda hard when only your desktop environment is malfunctioning. Why don't you just make a backup of your personal settings, purge the DE and reinstall it?
[20:19] <subz3r0> just pack the file with 7zip+password and upload it to ubuntu one or any other file hoster for free
[20:19] <jagginess> d00durk00l, nothing is simple in the terminal, you just have to learn how to use it :/
[20:19] <WeThePeople> d00durkool, cfs
[20:20] <hwkiller-netbook> well, it is "simple"
[20:20] <hwkiller-netbook> as in engineering
[20:20] <WeThePeople> its in the soft center
[20:20] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, obviously you don't know engineering but use the word.. funny guy
[20:21] <hwkiller-netbook> ?
[20:21] <d00durk00l> Well thnaks for all the help guys :)
[20:21] <hwkiller-netbook> simple as in engineering, not as in ease of use is a common phrase
[20:21] <Meris> d00durk00l, np
[20:21] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, you talk like you know how to analyze atoms but see life from a clerical point of view.. you made no sense on that last one
[20:22] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, don't know what gist is
[20:22] <subz3r0> !ot
[20:22] <SamL> meris, do i need to setup a special partition for refind?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, a totality
[20:22] <hwkiller-netbook> jagginess, honestly, I don't have time for pedantic nonsense today.
[20:22] <Veryhappy> Meris how can i remove all personal settings that did break my system and is there anything that i have to delete to get it back to standard ?
[20:22] <Veryhappy> Lol i meant my KDE not system sorry
[20:23] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, you're a user, not an engineer. Engineering isn't simple.
[20:23]  * jagginess thinks whoever says engineering is simple is nonsense
[20:23] <subz3r0> jagginess, please back to topic. thx
[20:23] <jrib> hwkiller-netbook, jagginess: let's move back to support please
[20:23] <toobluesc> do it for the lulz
[20:23] <Meris> SamL, just follow the instructions I have pointed out and you'll be fine. It's all there...: http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[20:23] <d00durk00l> when I try to use /server command it gives me no protocol manager error is there other param's I am missing? I don't remember having to use anything else
[20:23] <SamL> yah im going through it
[20:23] <hwkiller-netbook> jagginess, "simple as in engineering" does not mean engineering is simple, it means "simple" as in the engineering use
[20:23] <boboy77b> http://bitchinbeach.com/Forum/index.php?tid=30&title=The_Best_TEEN_Porn_Movie_Collection
[20:24] <Meris> SamL, here's a link to rEFInd: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[20:24] <SamL> im looking at these pictures and im seeing what lokos l
[20:24] <SamL> looks like an MBR partition that's fat
[20:25] <jagginess> fat32 likely
[20:25] <Meris> SamL, did you install Bootcamp or did you not?
[20:25]  * jagginess remembers fat16 which/may be used on some small sd cards
[20:25] <SamL> I do not have OSX installed and I have no OSX CD availble
[20:25]  * ikonia would like jagginess to stop with random /me commands.
[20:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:26] <Meris> SamL, MBR has nothing to do with (V)FAT per se. It just is is the Master Boot Record, not the File Allocation Table(FAT)
[20:27] <SamL> ok
[20:27] <SamL> the install for refind looks like the system is already installed
[20:27] <SamL> (manual install)
[20:27] <protestContest> does anyone know of any windows mbr utilities that I can run from Ubuntu?
[20:28] <protestContest> like bootrec
[20:28] <Meris> SamL, in that case it's even easier and you *will* need rEFInd instead of rEFIt. That's exactly why I pointed you to rEFInd.
[20:28] <PoundXI> PoundXI/c all
[20:28] <Meris> protestContest, what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:28] <SamL> right, ok
[20:29] <SamL> because the triple-boot is using refit lol
[20:29] <protestContest> Meris: have a friend's windows laptop that needs the mbr fixed, and it won't boot into anything but my ubuntu flash drive
[20:29] <calico> I just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O
[20:29] <jagginess> Meris, what's refind? (that a newer fork of refit?)
[20:29] <Meris> jagginess, it is :-)
[20:30] <jagginess> thanks didn't know that :)
[20:30]  * jagginess has a macbook couple years back on refit, refit is dry since 2010
[20:30] <Meris> jagginess, just follow the link: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[20:30] <Meris> jaggo
[20:30] <ghost_> italiano
[20:30] <ghost_> !list italiano
[20:30] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[20:30] <subz3r0> !it ghost_
[20:30] <subz3r0> args :>
[20:31] <jagginess> Meris, would you happen to know how much it would be a pita if one uses grub-efi over grub-pc to have working with refit?
[20:31] <klotzek> Can i install ubuntu on Amiga PPC?
[20:31] <jagginess> Meris, ,/refind// sorry :/
[20:32] <jagginess> klotzek, dont think so, but probably with debian you can
[20:32] <OerHeks> !ppc
[20:32] <klotzek> Thx.
[20:33] <Meris> jagginess, not sure, but the last time I checked grub-efi had some serious issues.
[20:33] <bekks> klotzek: 12.10 has ppc images again.
[20:33] <calico> I just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O
[20:33] <OerHeks> good newss bekks all i find is 10.10
[20:34] <jagginess> !xubuntu
[20:34] <bekks> OerHeks: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:34] <bekks> OerHeks: I got that from google, seconds ago.
[20:35] <Veryhappy> What do i have to remove to get my KDE in standard state user settings and other files and how do i do that?
[20:35] <OerHeks> !cookie | bekks
[20:35] <jagginess> Meris, well the tradeoff i've read has something to do with the gfx, eg, using the grub-pc uses the mac in bios-emulation mode and I read the gfx isn't as ideal if straight efi was being used, that's why i'm interested in using grub-efi
[20:35] <bekks> OerHeks: \o\\o//o/ ;)
[20:35] <OerHeks> !purekde
[20:35] <Meris> jagginess, you can always test of course, but I wouldn't use it for a "production" machine.
[20:36] <OerHeks> Veryhappy, if you messed up an account, create a fresh one :-)
[20:37] <Meris> Veryhappy, now *that* is a good advice of Oerheks ^You can copy any settings you *want* at your leisure when logged into the new account.
[20:38] <xj98jeep> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a boot HDD, with two more HDDs in a hardware RAID 0 array that were configured in a previous windows 7 install. They show up in the BIOS, but not in Ubuntu. do I need to redo the RAID array so that Ubuntu can see it? or is there a package I'm missing or something
[20:38] <Meris> Veryhappy, if ou have screwed things up on a system-wide level, my more complex purge => reinstall will come in handy.
[20:39] <bekks> xj98jeep: Which hardware raid controller do you have?
[20:39] <Veryhappy> Ok thanks
[20:39] <xj98jeep> not sure, whatever came with the motherboard. It's a gigabyte 990fx board, i'll see what chipset it has
[20:39] <Veryhappy> See you
[20:39] <bekks> xj98jeep: Since you can see both disks in Ubuntu, you do not have a hardware raid controller, but just a fakeraid controller.
[20:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:  are you guys still here?  I found the problem now, os-prober and update-grub wont detect win7 because the option for win8 in grub boot loader is actually another boot loader for Windows Boot Manager, that's whta shows up when i select win8 in grub boot, it shows BLACK SCREEN with options for Win7 and Win8. I can log in on either so everything is fine now.
[20:40] <xj98jeep> I actually *can't* see them in ubuntu, only in the BIOS
[20:40] <jagginess> n1ckn4me09876543, comeon man, windows 8 is not even out until late october, stop complaning about your illegal warez not working
[20:40] <jkbbwr> anyone know how to monitor mv with pv?
[20:41] <jkbbwr> jagginess: who said anything about illegal, I have a legal win8 copy
[20:41] <protestContest> jagginess: msdnaa ftw
[20:41] <bekks> xj98jeep: Still, that controller on the 990FX is a fakeraid controller.
[20:42] <i7c> protestContest: :)
[20:42] <jkbbwr> serisouly anyone
[20:42] <jkbbwr> monitor mv using pv
[20:42] <jkbbwr> cant find it anywhere
[20:42] <calico> So how I go about booting linux if after installation it straight booted to windows without prompting anything
[20:42] <guntbert> !enter | jkbbwr
[20:42] <xj98jeep> Cool, I'm not very familiar fakeraid. I understand what it is but I'm not sure how to proceed with troubleshooting.
[20:42] <WeThePeople> is ubuntu the heavy weight  of the distros?
[20:42] <jagginess> calico, usually it's the other way around, so no worry ;)
[20:42] <subz3r0> calico, this is not ubuntu specific. its up to you to find out how you can enter the BOOT-MENUE
[20:43] <Meris> xj98jeep, protestContest, jkbbwr, Well, I won't support any Windows Version that wants to restrict bootloader installation on a hardware level. I boycott it instead.
[20:43] <billc> calico: i have 8 seconds to choose linux
[20:44] <xj98jeep> Should I just dismantle the fakeraid array and do a software raid within Ubuntu? I was trying to not use software RAID because I thought I was using a hardware RAID but now that I know that isn't the case are there any advantages to staying with the fakeraid?
[20:45] <bekks> xj98jeep: Yes.
[20:45]  * jagginess is reading http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NzE
[20:45] <calico> ...also why would my windows system clock be messed after installing linux
[20:45] <Meris> xj98jeep, FakeRAID is not portable across different chipsets, so it's pretty much vendor lock-in.
[20:45] <bekks> xj98jeep: Actually, until you know why you need a software raid (know it, dont think you do) you dont need raid at all.
[20:46] <subz3r0> calico, this is well known. search for something like "dual boot ubuntu win7 wrong time" bla...
[20:47] <xj98jeep> it appears I've got some thinking to do. Thanks for the info folks!
[20:49] <evgen123> Hi! Can I install v3.5.3-quantal kernel to Ubuntu 12.04 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[20:49] <internetN00b> what app can I use to manage my passwords?
[20:50] <bekks> internetN00b: keypassx
[20:50] <internetN00b> I have over 20 passwords I need to remember :(
[20:50] <ikonia> evgen123: something I'd advise you not to try
[20:50] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not a quantal kernel, bit a mainline kernel. Vanilla from kernel.org, no quantal patches included.
[20:50] <subz3r0> "keepassx"
[20:50] <jagginess> internetN00b, i use a bprocessor storage account for my passwords
[20:50] <izepax> internetN00b: if it's password on internet i receomend LastPass
[20:51] <internetN00b> izepax, isn't lastpass a service?
[20:51] <jagginess> subz3r0, i see two words in that
[20:51] <internetN00b> I don't want to do that, these are passwords for my bank accounts
[20:51] <protestContest> internetN00b: +1 lastpass
[20:51] <bekks> internetN00b: keypassx
[20:51] <evgen123> bekks> And?
[20:51]  * jagginess believes a bprocessor storage acccount exists in his biological brain
[20:51] <internetN00b> keypassx is a kde/qt app. I prefer gtk app
[20:51] <subz3r0> bekks its called "keepassx" not "keypassx"
[20:51] <izepax> I trust lastpass for all my accounts
[20:51] <evgen123> bekks> it is good or bad idea?
[20:51]  * ikonia again asks jagginess to stop with the random /me commands
[20:51] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not the kernel that will be included on quantal.
[20:52] <jagginess> ikonia, i have no idea what keepassx is, or if it was even a real program
[20:52] <subz3r0> jagginess, mhh? two words?
[20:52] <jagginess> subz3r0, will check it out
[20:52] <ikonia> jagginess: yes, so please stop with /me phrases.
[20:52] <subz3r0> jagginess, use your favorite search engine and youll know =)
[20:53] <jagginess> ikonia, i only did 3. relax.. barely spare my wild thoughts..
[20:53] <evgen123> bekks> I understand, but it will be work on LTS precise?
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: There is a mainline kernel deb for 12.04 which has the same kernel version as the deb for quantal.
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: Why dont you use a mainline kernel for 12.04?
[20:55] <ikonia> evgen123: why do you want to change the kernel ?
[20:55] <ikonia> what do you hope to get from this
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: Mixing packages for different releases will most likely break your system.
[20:56] <jaxdahl> for core things obviously. i don't think it's that big of an issue for standalone apps
[20:57] <diverdude> did php 5.4 come to ubuntu yet?
[20:58] <ikonia> diverdude: check
[20:58] <lauratika> does anyone knows how to change the MTU in ubuntu for openvpn??
[20:58] <auronandace> !info php
[20:58] <GraemeLion> !info php5
[20:58] <diverdude> ikonia: how can i check it?
[20:58] <bekks> !php5
[20:58] <bekks> !info php5
[20:58] <evgen123> bekks, ikonia> default 3.2.0-30 kernel have many problems with hardware. I need to update.
[20:58] <ikonia> diverdude: look in the package manager
[20:58] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not true. :) Which problems o you talk about?
[20:58] <subz3r0> lauratika, you can change the mtu within the openvpn configs, when i remember right
[20:59] <GraemeLion> Ubutnu + 1 will have php5.
[20:59] <GraemeLion> Er.. 5.4
[20:59] <lauratika> you mean through network-manager??
[21:00] <diverdude> ikonia: arrg apt-cache show says Version: 5.3.3-1ubuntu9 :/
[21:00] <subz3r0> lauratika, network manager? openvpn does not have any GUI tools bundled
[21:00] <subz3r0> lauratika, sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500
[21:00] <evgen123> bekks> Problem with kernel panic on nForce2 chipset. Problem with interraps in kworker on my noteboook/
[21:01] <subz3r0> or if you want to have it permanent: "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" then add "mtu 1234"
[21:01] <bekks> evgen123: Is it a reproducable kernel panic? Or is it just a random event.
[21:01] <evgen123> bekks> first problem resolved in new kernel.
[21:01] <lauratika> subz3r0 nope, you can as a matter of fact thorugh edit connections in network manager, now the question is how do i know what is the best MTU for specific websote?
[21:02] <bekks> evgen123: Do you have link to the kernel bugreport or the kernel git changeset covering that problem?
[21:02] <subz3r0> lauratika, there is no built in tool for the openvpn-server. Only the commercial version has it. anyway... told you what u must change. read above...
[21:03] <subz3r0> lauratika, also in normal circrumstances there is no reason to change the MTU
[21:03] <nothingspecial> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055582
[21:03] <Gycklarn> What the... I just restarted my Ubuntu server for the first time since boot, and now my sudo privs are gone
[21:03] <evgen123> bekks> Yes, I saw a report on this issue. But the links are not preserved.
[21:03] <subz3r0> lauratika, and a "website" has nothing to do with a vpn solution. that are different things
[21:04] <Gycklarn> for the first time since first boot, that is
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: output of « groups »?
[21:04] <Gycklarn> gycklarn printadmin
[21:04] <bekks> evgen123: Both the bug reports and the changesets are persistent ;)
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: I assume you used usermod at some point?
[21:04] <bhast2> I lost my driver it says that You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA Xdriver
[21:04] <lauratika> subz3r0 ok thanx, i wanted to change MTU because certain websites wont load under openvpn...
[21:04] <Gycklarn> Yup
[21:04] <subz3r0> lauratika, that has nothing to do with the MTU
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: if you don't pass -a to usermod -G, you are removed from all your other groups.  What ubuntu version is this?
[21:04] <evgen123> bekks> current not resolved?
[21:05] <Gycklarn> Haha, awesome. Uh 12.04 I think. Server.
[21:05] <jrib> Gycklarn: you need to add yourself back to the "sudo" group.  Do you have physical access to the server?
[21:05] <Gycklarn> Yes
[21:05] <subz3r0> lauratika, check this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:05] <lauratika> in openvpn forum says some times certain websites wont load properly based on the packages beeing bigger at some websites which makes unreachable
[21:05] <bhast2> How do i get my Nvidia x driver back
[21:05] <bekks> evgen123: All bugreports are preserved, as long as it is an official bugreport in the official tracker :)
[21:05] <jrib> Gycklarn: then you can just reboot, select recovery mode, root console, and then issue: adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE sudo
[21:06] <Gycklarn> Alright, awesome
[21:06] <Gycklarn> thanks
[21:06] <ghost_> italiano
[21:06] <ghost_> !canali
[21:06] <lauratika> thats why changing MTU sometimes addresses the issue
[21:06] <ghost_> !canali italiano
[21:06] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[21:06] <jrib> Gycklarn: you can use this "adduser" command to add users to groups so you don't have to worry about the quirk with usermod
[21:06] <subz3r0> lauratika, 1492 or 1500 for the MTU, other stuff will result in problems on ethernet
[21:06] <Gycklarn> yeah, I'll keep that in mind
[21:06] <Gycklarn> And I'll ne more careful when following guides
[21:06] <Gycklarn> heh
[21:06] <Gycklarn> be*
[21:07] <evgen123> bekks> but nForce2 work with new kernel very well
[21:08] <ikonia> evgen123: who said it will ?
[21:08] <lauratika> subz3r0 ok, im just trying to fiz an issue based on the info i got... do you know a better solution or where to look at in terms of vpn not allowing browser(s) to load certain websites??
[21:08] <ikonia> evgen123: nforce has worked well for a long time
[21:08] <Gycklarn> Right then, rebooting.
[21:08] <subz3r0> lauratika, try "traceroute www.thewebsiteswhichSnotworkin.com"
[21:08] <bekks> evgen123: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/984387 -- it says "fix released". So no need to use another kernel.
[21:10] <subz3r0> lauratika, it also depends on the server and it configs. Maybe the website is just blocked from that IP, or the website blocks your vpn. check those things with "ping" "traceroute" and maybe wireshark