[11:45] <SimonKLB> kwmonroe: very late response, but no, it was against aws
[11:46] <SimonKLB> kwmonroe: it's solved though, i updated the bundletester issue thread about my issue
[13:48] <SimonKLB> any jujucharms.com admins here? need help with a broken login due to updated user on launchpad
[14:02] <Neepu> Hey. I'm looking into backing up a OpenStack system, that is built with nova-lxd-containers (All-in-one Ubuntu OpenStack) are there any documentation to help with that? I'm assuming that backup is slightly different than usual due to the use of containers.
[14:04] <tvansteenburgh> SimonKLB: rick_h can probably point you in the right direction
[14:05] <tvansteenburgh> Neepu: beisner or jamespage might know
[14:08] <beisner_> hi Neepu - the all-on-one openstack scenario is a handy dev/test/demo scenario, but it isn't recommended for production use cases.  openstack is a cloud, and clouds are meant to be distributed.  as such, we've not explored or documented a backup routine for that use case.
[14:09] <Neepu> hi beisner_ ty for the answer, if i were to backup such a system, do you have a suggestion? it is not meant to be used in a production environment.
[14:10] <beisner_> Neepu - there are a number of things that could be done.  when you say back up, are you talking about backing up the backing storage for running instances, or backing up the control and data plane of the cloud itself, or both?
[14:12] <Neepu> I haven't really settled on that yet, as i'm not too familiar with LXD containers yet. But the requirements i'm dealing with is that, it should be easy to restore again. The most important feature would be to backup the guestOSes, but i think there already is a feature for that.
[14:16] <Neepu> yep "nova backup", which probly backups inside the nova container.
[14:19] <beisner_> An OpenStack cloud as-a-whole isn't really something that's meant to be backed up and restored, as one might do with a traditional application.  It's a stack of independent applications and api services, each of which have certain needs.  The process for doing that at the application level, regardless of the substrate, would be the same as is documented in the upstream openstack docs.
[14:19] <beisner_> The process for doing that on a machine (container) level, is not documented or tested for use against an entire openstack cloud, but if this is a dev/test environment, it'd be interesting to see if lxd snapshots are helpful.
[14:24] <Neepu> I see, i think i'd be good with lxd snapshot to extract the backup
[14:25] <Neepu> I'm not too familiar with Juju's approach to OpenStack, but would snapshoting all LXD containers and start them let me run a functional OpenStack cloud?
[14:28] <beisner_> Neepu - i don't believe that is tested.  the recommended approach to OpenStack Charms delivered via Juju is to use an HA topology, where api services are disposable, etc.
[14:29] <beisner_> ie.  so when a machine dies, it's ok, there are 2 other machines that take the load while a repair/replacement is made.
[14:29] <beisner_> that's the "cloudier" way to address this.
[14:29] <Neepu> i see
[14:30] <Neepu> cheers for the answers, i'll head off now :-)
[14:31] <beisner_> Neepu - yw, happy to help.  see you around & best to ya!
[15:26] <beisner_> hi vds - belated pong:  invalid region "" seems to be meaningful there.  have you set the region in your juju cloud config?  here's an example of what we do in CI:  https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-test-infra/blob/master/juju-configs/clouds.yaml#L27
[15:27] <vds> beisner_: hi! :) how do I get the value for region from Openstack?
[15:29] <beisner_> hi vds - it'd be the value set at deploy time (on nova-cloud-controller).  if one wasn't specified, it'll use the default: https://github.com/openstack/charm-nova-cloud-controller/blob/master/config.yaml#L125
[15:29] <beisner_> RegionOne
[15:30] <vds> beisner_: thanks
[15:30] <beisner_> cheers vds :) yw
[15:33] <kjackal> 243667
[15:34] <rick_h> mhilton: we're helping SimonKLB here
[15:34] <rick_h> SimonKLB: broke the system!
[15:36] <mhilton> hi SimonKLB could you please try logging in on the staging system https://staging.jujucharms.com/ This should help resolve the login problems on jujucharms.com itself.
[16:18] <Budgie^Smore> o/ juju world
[16:49] <lazyPower> heya Budgie^Smore
[17:30] <Budgie^Smore> what's happening today?
[17:34] <lazyPower> Not much for me :)
[18:37] <SimonKLB> mhilton: confirmed working :) thaanks
[19:40] <mhilton> SimonKLB, thanks for that. unfortunately I don't have access to our production system to update that myself, but it is in the queue for the people that do, it's fairly simple so should be done reasonably quickly.
[19:49] <SimonKLB> mhilton: no worries, thanks for looking into it


[04:57] <uub8> Is anybody here?
[05:05] <Unit193> Someone surely is.
[05:07] <uub8> :)
[05:07] <uub8> Awesome.
[05:09] <Unit193> Uh, OK then.
[05:14] <flocculant> they'll come back - and no-one will be here :p
[10:24] <bluesabre> wow


[01:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> My graphics seem to be stuck in 1024x768, the screen scales it up to 1200x900, then letterboxes it
[01:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> A full screen wine program crashed when starting, and it's been like that since
[01:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Anybody know how to go about fixing this?
[01:22] <bazhang> check the appdb and join #winehq
[01:22] <bazhang> !appdb
[01:38] <kingplusplus> please anyone know where vim colors are stored in Xubuntu?
[02:36] <delt> Hello
[02:37] <delt> my X server is still beign run with "-nolisten tcp" ....i removed that from my /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc AND i added that option in lightdm.conf
[02:44] <delt> nm, just had to reboot... looks like logging out wasn't enough
[02:48] <delt> holstein: oh did i tell you my midi keyboard works on one of the back USB ports on this new motherboard :D :D
[02:49] <holstein> delt: congrats!
[02:49] <delt> i just occasionally get this kernel message: [  169.251686] urb status -32
[02:49] <delt> but works perfectly, no skipped notes, or anything
[02:50] <holstein> sounds ignorable
[02:51] <delt> anyway it's good to have a working (and modern) desktop machine after several weeks using just a laptop
[02:52] <delt> ok, so what was the font manager app that came with 13.04, that let the user view/install/uninstall fonts? it doesn't seem to be present in 14.10......
[02:55] <delt> ah, kfontview... it was there on my laptop because i installed the kde stuff
[02:55] <delt> holy shit, After this operation, 132 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:55] <delt> that has a lot of deps
[03:01] <holstein> !langauge > delt
[03:03] <delt> oh, sorry about that.
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so
[03:04] <delt> gaaah
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so "harsh" language sometimes doesn't seem too "harsh" to me
[03:04] <bazhang> delt, it means no cursing
[03:05] <delt> yeah, that's what i figured... again sorry about it
[03:09] <delt> is there a package that install all microsoft fonts like verdana, arial, etcetc...?
[03:09] <Artemis3> yes
[03:09] <kupo_> well. must say. so far upgrade to 14.04 has been fine. and it finally fixed my screen saver issue on both computahs. way to go folks
[03:10] <holstein> delt: i usually just get "ubuntu-restricted-extras". but it has other things in it.. you should be able to search for them
[03:11] <delt> cool, what other stuff is in that package?
[03:11] <bazhang> xubuntu-restricted-extras if he's using xubuntu, right?
[03:11] <delt> anyway i installed the verdana ttf's and pianoteq
[03:11] <kupo_> search fonts on synaptic. can find some stuff
[03:11] <delt> anyway i installed the verdana ttf's and pianoteq's font is back to normal =)
[03:12] <cfhowlett> bazhang, correct
[03:12] <bazhang> mscorefonts-installer , let me check
[03:12] <Artemis3> its called ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:12] <delt> ttf-mscorefonts-installer is already the newest version.
[03:13] <Artemis3> so you have it
[03:13] <delt> guess this answers my question -- The following NEW packages will be installed: \n gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse libfaac0 libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0 libmplex2-2.1-0
[03:15] <delt> oh also, i mentioned this i think a few weeks ago... sometimes there's a bug that makes TAB completion in term windows no longer works.... the tab key behaves like if some other modifier is pressed - similar to alt+tab, but not exactly
[03:15] <delt> i have to close down my X session to fix it.... it's quite annoying
[03:15] <delt> doesn't happen very often, but when it does, that's the only way to fix it :/
[03:16] <Artemis3> Xubuntu 13.10? i havent encountered it yet
[03:16] <delt> happened on my laptop with 13.04 as well
[03:16] <delt> 13.10 or 13.04, can never remember which :3
[03:17] <Artemis3> you might have the alt key getting stuck or something
[03:17] <delt> that's what i first thought, but it's not the case
[03:17] <delt> + same thing happens on the desktop machine
[03:17] <delt>  pressing and releasing all the modifier keys (shift, alt, ctrl...) usually fixes bugs like this, but this one nope..
[03:19] <delt> there might be a way with xmodmap, but i haven't found it
[03:34] <ktulu1776> Hi guys... Noob question here. My top of screen menu (Unity Menu?) is gone. Not a panel, but the thin constant bar on top with time, Applications Menu, windows, network, etc
[03:35] <holstein> ktulu1776: you are running xubuntu? and you have lost the xfce panel? the top one?
[03:35] <ktulu1776> Right
[03:36] <holstein> ktulu1776: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#Restore_your_Xfce_panel_settings
[03:36] <ktulu1776> So the xfce panel is what I want, not Unity?
[03:36] <holstein> ktulu1776: if you are not running unity, then, correct.. not unity
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: xubuntu has xfce panels.. not unity menus
[03:37] <ktulu1776> I'm in xubuntu. I am in terminal installing unity now though :-/
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: ok..
[03:37] <Artemis3> i would just rename ~/.config/xfce4 :)
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can follow the instructions i gave to restore you panels.. its a lot like what Artemis3 just suggested
[03:37] <ktulu1776> I thought that was the name of the top menu. I'll try the instructions on your link when this is done
[03:38] <Artemis3> if you attempt to install unity, you will experience a lot of trouble
[03:38] <ktulu1776> I have the panel at the bottom
[03:38] <holstein> well, its more than an attempt.. its coming in now
[03:38] <ktulu1776> should I cancel this Terminal installation of Unity?
[03:38] <holstein> you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove unity"
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: depends on what stage its in
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: if its still downloading only, you can usually control c that and be OK
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: i would leave it be if you are not sure
[03:39] <Artemis3> or maybe it wont do anything but i haven't tried
[03:40] <Artemis3> i should pull a lot of dependencies
[03:40] <Artemis3> it
[03:44] <delt> why not just create a dummy account and copy over the panels config from there?
[03:46] <kupo_> yay. finally got tamsyn fonts working. didn't know about that cache command
[03:47] <kupo_> wouldnt purge unity be better?
[03:48] <ktulu1776> Argh
[03:49] <holstein> well, at this point "better" doesnt matter.. it would be better to have not installed it
[03:49] <holstein> but, it will be easy to remove. and i would try "sudo apt-get auto-remove unity" and just read what is getting removed
[03:50] <holstein> delt: the "reset" proceedure above just gets a defaut, out of the box panel configuration
[03:50] <Artemis3> i wonder if installing unity pulls the gtk global menu thing
[03:50] <ktulu1776> "Package unity is not installed, so not removed"
[03:50] <Artemis3> or the dissappearing scroll bars
[03:50] <holstein> delt: the same result as making a new account, and pulling them in
[03:50] <holstein> ktulu1776: ok.. dont over think it
[03:50] <Artemis3> might be some other ubuntu-desktop package :)
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can use the up arrow to see what you actually installed
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: first thing i would do is, "Fix" your problem.. reset your panels, and just logout and back in
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: if everything is fine, just leave it alone
[03:51] <delt> i must say, xubuntu / ubuntustudio is a really nice OS, i like it a lot.
[03:52] <kupo_> I installed lxde on other computer to try it out. when I purged it . all the bloat was gone and same stuff as my xfce. it was nice. but I guess it didn't delete.. thought it would have
[03:53] <cfhowlett> kupo_, lxde only???
[03:54] <ktulu1776> I'll show you guys what I have now. One sec
[03:54] <ktulu1776> Thanks holstein
[03:54] <ktulu1776> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03312014-105229pm.php
[03:55] <kupo_> yes. installed lxde on xubuntu system
[03:55] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can either fix that panel, or reset them as the link i gave will do
[03:55] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can right click, and get to many options, that i suggest playing with on a live CD, or in the guest account
[03:55] <kupo_> i just find xfce to look much better and everything. though i have never explored open box much.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> kupo_, sudo apt-cache purge lxde
[03:56] <kupo_> but very glad upgrade to 14.04 has been fine so far and fixed my screensaver/blank screen bug that a lot of people have
[03:57] <kupo_> ok. i'll try that thanks
[03:57] <Artemis3> what bug is that?
[03:57] <kupo_> invalid command it says.
[03:58] <ktulu1776> i just don't have the ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/ directory needed for that reset instructions
[03:58] <kupo_> a bug that turns your screen saver or turn off monitor every ten minutes if idle. even when watching videos
[03:58] <kupo_> i googled and very common. but light locker or whatever seemed to do its job right
[03:59] <delt> kupo_: check settings -> power manager
[03:59] <delt> in my experience it kind of conflicts with the screen saver settings
[03:59] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can look in a file manager, in .config/xfce4
[03:59] <kupo_> yeah i did it all. the only fix was a command   xset -dpms  etc
[03:59] <kupo_> every time i booted
[03:59] <kupo_> it's fine now. problem resolved with 14.04
[04:00] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can just move that entire xfce4 folder out of the way, or rename it, and get default settings
[04:00] <kupo_> solved*
[04:00] <delt> doesn't the "power manager" applet simply execute xset with the right parameters?
[04:00] <holstein> ktulu1776: you should have ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[04:00] <ktulu1776> OK, I just renamed /user/.config/xfce4, I'll restart now?
[04:01] <holstein> ktulu1776: you dont need to restart, but you can... as i said, just logging out and back in will do
[04:01] <ktulu1776> I have that, but not xfconf
[04:01] <ktulu1776> OK, back in a sec
[04:01] <holstein> ktulu1776: i dont see any references to that for addressing the panel reset
[04:02] <holstein> xfconfd is not a directory
[04:02] <holstein> pkill xfconfd is a command
[04:02] <kupo_> what's the command to restart xfce without logging out? i know it was r and -r for gnome
[04:02] <ktulu1776_> Woohoo, thanks to the computer genius, holstein!
[04:02] <ktulu1776_> :-P
[04:02] <kupo_> on alt +f2
[04:03] <holstein> ktulu1776: enjoy
[04:04] <ktulu1776_> thanks! So that xfce folder holds user prefs for the desktop interface, and when deleted, defaults are restored?
[04:04] <holstein> ktulu1776: correct.. deleted, moved, or removed, or renamed
[04:04] <ktulu1776_> Great. Learning bit by bit here. Thanks all
[04:04] <delt> what's the difference between pkill and killall?
[04:05] <delt> from the manpage, seems to do the same thing
[04:11] <delt> quick question, how do i enable my user account to run a separate X server?
[04:16] <kupo_> found bug in 14.04  leafpad don't seem to work. closes when you go to menu or right click. if anyone else has had problem
[04:17] <delt> *sigh* now i killed my account, can't log in :/ where's the desktop manager log file again?
[04:19] <delt> keeps bouncing back to the login screen.
[04:20] <kupo_> *mousepad not leafpad. sorry
[04:20] <xubuntu959> hola
[04:20] <xubuntu959> NEcesito ayuda
[04:20] <xubuntu959> Con xbuntu, intento instalarlo
[04:20] <xubuntu959> Pero no he podidp
[04:20] <xubuntu959> No he podido
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !it|xubuntu959,
[04:21] <delt> zapato cabeza y caramba
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !es
[04:21] <delt> yo no espaniolo
[04:23] <delt> anyway, i'm on a text console right now, how do i check the desktop manager log file for errors?
[04:23] <delt> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log contains only lines that start with DEBUG:
[04:23] <delt> what should i look for in that file?
[04:27] <delt> ok, found the error, it was my .Xauthority file that somehow caused problems
[04:30] <delt> yay, i'm back in :D
[04:33] <delt> this could be quite problematic for beginner users....
[04:33] <bazhang> file a bug then delt
[04:34] <delt> i kept the .Xauthority file that prevented me from logging in, dunno what happened to it
[04:36] <delt> earlier i was futzing around with running a separate X server, that must be what caused the problem
[04:45] <delt> oh, how do i press F1 in a terminal? the UI intercepts it and asks me if i want to read the online docs.....
[04:46] <delt> which is kind of annoying when i need to press F1 in a textmode program like alsamixer
[06:01] <shawnbon206> yo
[06:01] <ethermonk> hi
[06:01] <shawnbon206> is the beta 14.04 installer considered safe to use at this point?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> shawnbon206, support for unreleased versions (14.04) = #ubuntu+1       channel
[06:02] <bazhang> still a bit more than two weeks away
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !isitout|bazhang,
[06:02] <bazhang> expect breakage
[06:03] <bazhang> ubottu, shaddap
[06:03] <cfhowlett> bazhang, is the !isitout factoid retired?
[06:03] <shawnbon206> does a dist-upgrade usually work? i am installing for the first time i would hate to reinstall in 2 weeks
[06:03] <bazhang> cfhowlett, not that I know of, it's mostly used in #u-r-p
[06:04] <bazhang> !final | shawnbon206
[06:04] <cfhowlett> #u-r-p   ?  never been there.
[06:04] <bazhang> shawnbon206, dist-upgrade is not a version upgrade
[06:04] <shawnbon206> ok thanks ubottu . will do
[06:04] <bazhang> !party
[06:04] <bazhang> cfhowlett, ^
[06:05] <cfhowlett> bazhang, sot it.
[06:05] <cfhowlett> *got*
[06:05] <shawnbon206> er, thanks bazhang :) i accidentally thanked the bot lol
[06:05] <bazhang> hehe
[06:06] <bazhang> cfhowlett, that chan wont be open for ten or more days yet iirc
[06:06] <shawnbon206> does dist-upgrade work differently on ubuntu? on debian thats what i usually do
[06:06] <bazhang> around 4/15-16-ish I'd reckon
[06:07] <cfhowlett> bazhang, I've never been the type who feels compelled to see a Day 1 of release upgrade
[06:07] <bazhang> yep
[06:07] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[06:07] <shawnbon206> !upgrade
[06:07] <bazhang> debian is a bit different in that regard
[06:09] <shawnbon206> hmm
[06:09] <shawnbon206> ok gonna pull the trigger
[06:09] <shawnbon206> its an old imac i am completely getting rid of osx and windows
[06:11] <bazhang> get the daily then, #ubuntu+1 as cf howlett indicated earlier
[06:12] <ethermonk> ^
[06:13] <shawnbon206> why the daily when the beta is only 4 days behind it?
[06:15] <bazhang> the daily will become the beta...
[06:15] <ethermonk> about 600MB in updates plus some fixes in the install process it's self if i remember correctly
[06:17] <elfy> please read the blog notes for it - it references the release notes and the b1 notes - http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-final-beta/
[08:31] <Pierre_> Hi everybody ! I am struggling installing correctly the last Xubuntu Version on my pc. My problem is the internet connection, would anyone of you like to help me with this? Thanks in advance.
[08:37] <Pierre_> I runed Ubuntu 11.04 perfectly well for few years and then I wanted to update to the last Xubuntu. I never had any trouble with Internet before, neither on Vista nor Ubuntu. During Install and when running a live session, my wired connection worked just fine. Unfortunately, when all the install is over, it ended with no connections at all (no wifi/no wired)
[08:38] <Pierre_> I tried again and again to reinstall various versions (Ubuntu/Xubuntu) and it's the same
[08:38] <Pierre_> I reinstalled vista and it works fine (well as fine as vista is able to)
[08:39] <Pierre_> Please I need your help as I don't want to get Microshit back
[08:47] <ethermonk> what wifi chipset? what xubuntu version?
[08:56] <Pierre_> hi ethermonk, thanks for your help
[08:57] <Pierre_> this is xubuntu 13.04, my laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1501 and the wifi chipset is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g
[08:58] <Pierre_> (ethernet : BCM4401-B0 100Base -TX)
[09:00] <ethermonk> thats going to be a problem
[09:00] <ethermonk> 13.04 is eol, and 14.04 is not going to support your wifi card. you can still run 13.10 which does work with the !b43
[09:01] <ethermonk> !broadcom
[09:03] <Pierre_> Ok... What do you mean "13.04 is eol" ?
[09:03] <ethermonk> support has ended for 13.04.
[09:04] <ethermonk> but the answer is the same. install the drivers located on the install disk, ubottu can PM you the link when i say !broadcom | Pierre_
[09:11] <ethermonk> Pierre_  i have that b43 in several of my laptops. had to replace them all with this $8 wifi adapter in preparation for 14.04 LTS: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&format=2
[09:12] <Pierre_> Are you telling me that there is no way for me to solve this out than buying a new wifi-device ?
[09:13] <ethermonk> no i gave you a link to the directions on how to install the drivers, then i gave you advise on a new wifi adapter because in the future, it wont work on upcoming releases
[09:15] <ethermonk> starting with next month's release of 14.04
[09:15] <ethermonk> wait, thats this month.
[09:15] <ethermonk> need to flip the calendar  :P
[09:16] <bazhang> 16 days!
[09:16] <bazhang> ubottu, isitout?
[09:16] <bazhang> really?
[09:16] <ethermonk> ?!
[09:16] <ethermonk> lol
[09:17] <bazhang> 4/17 final
[09:20] <Pierre_> ok I'll try now the link solution... Thanks for your help and good night to you
[10:55] <jarkko_> God Bless
[12:15] <nikolam> This clipboard applet stopped woking for me recently.
[12:16] <nikolam> It used to work, now just display some window on click, that has just one line visible above panel and bloks any input to any app
[12:16] <nikolam> only ESC resumes focus to other app
[14:44] <xubuntu229> have just installed xubuntu 13.1 and to my dismay there is no support for my nvidia 440mx (nvidia 96*** package). I downloaded the correct package from nvidia and tried a manual install by booting into recovery mode (ie no X server) but the entire hard drive was read only and the nvidia installation failed. Ubuntu documentation is not at all clear on how to manually install this driver (the hard way as they rightly put it).
[14:52] <Artemis3> xubuntu229, did you try 12.04?
[14:53] <Artemis3> or even 10.04 that card is awfully old, isn't nouveau working with it?
[14:56] <xubuntu229> yeah I did, been using 12.04 for a while and it recognises the graphics card and allows updating of the nVidia driver with one click - no problems. In the 13.1 release the one click update only covers card from the geforce 5 and upward, the 96*** driver is not supported whether this is because its been completely dropped or will only be supported in LTS releases I dont know. I'm well aware the card is old - am saving for new comp
[14:57] <koegs> the legacy driver is not compatible with the latest xserver
[14:59] <xubuntu229> so my only option then is to revert to 12.04, at least until I get new hardware?
[15:01] <xubuntu229> nouveau isn't really working at all well get lots of artefacts and random windows transparency or white out problems.
[15:02] <Artemis3> xubuntu229, hmm what would i do, is that a motherboard with built in nvidia?
[15:02] <Artemis3> i happen to have one of those around, havent used it for years lol
[15:04] <Artemis3> the problem with old nvidia drivers is that they were made to work with older kernels only, it would be best if the nouveau driver worked, maybe help at #nouveau or something?
[15:04] <xubuntu229> its a separate card 440mx 128mb, know that's rubbish but its not worth paying out for an upgraded graphics card when the rest of the system is about 12 years old - even if I could find a better card anyway.
[15:05] <Artemis3> you sure the card is working properly with the nvidia binary blob?
[15:05] <Artemis3> in that case head to #nouveau and try help them get the data on that card
[15:07] <xubuntu229> on 12.04 had full, or as full as it would go :-(  3d acceleration. Yeah you prob did lol, think i'm prob going to weep ol.
[15:08] <Artemis3> then stick to 12.04, and try help the nouveau guys if you can
[15:08] <Artemis3> you need package nvidia-96
[15:10] <xubuntu229> yeah I'll get intouch with them, always good to help if you can. I've got the 96 package, just dont know how to drop to console without the xserver still running - except for booting in recovery mode to console but then the hard drive is read only.
[15:11] <Artemis3> no i don't recommend you try to install that package with newer versions, just use precise
[15:11] <Artemis3> it will probably fail anyway
[15:13] <xubuntu229> ok then, its a bit annoying cos xfce in 13.1 is a much improved interface. Looks like I'll just have to wait till have enough cash for newer system. Anyway thanks for your help, much appreciated.
[15:14] <Artemis3> you might have some luck using xfce ppa with 12.04
[15:14] <Artemis3> important thing is to stay with the older kernel
[15:15] <Artemis3> so install 12.04, and maybe try ppas for the software you need updated
[15:16] <xubuntu229> ok - will get on installing that now. Once again thanks.....
[15:17] <Artemis3> yw
[16:16] <ben_xyzzy_> How do I manually mount an external drive? Automount is intentionally disabled.
[16:24] <GridCube> !mount
[16:48] <RFleming> Greetings!  How does one modify likewise-open5's home directory?
[16:49] <RFleming> /home/likewise-open/DOMAIN/username kinda stinks :)
[17:56] <fullgripBR> hi there, quick question: to install xubuntu on vmware I choose ubuntu as the target OS, right? pls do not guess talk, just for who did it already ok...
[17:57] <knome> fullgripBR, please understand that people here are volunteers, and usually guess talk is the best we can offer you.
[17:58] <knome> well, not usually, but sometimes..
[17:59] <fullgripBR> ok
[18:00] <fullgripBR> will google then, thx
[18:00] <knome> now having said that, i haven't installed xubuntu in vmware, but i can't imagine why setting ubuntu as the target OS would be wrong; xubuntu does share the ubuntu core.
[18:01] <knome> but if you insist on "you have to have done it" -information, then good luck searching for the answer
[18:06] <fullgripBR> knome, u r dead right, vmware even detects as Ubuntu... as seen here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59kwwtg3fIg
[18:07] <fullgripBR> so i will wait 4 d image to download and it's problem solved, no need to make a blank vm in advance
[18:07] <fullgripBR> thx for your time dude
[18:42] <delt> hello
[18:42] <delt> what's the best way to install the nvidia drivers on xubuntu / ubuntu studio?
[18:43] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[18:43] <delt> ah, thanks
[18:47] <delt> btw on my laptop, (the "settings manager" had a drivers item) installing the nvidia drivers resulted in the nice "linux for creative humans" spinning logo gone, and a textmode screen with 4 flashing dots instead. just wondering....?
[18:48] <cfhowlett> delt, " linux for creative humans" is the ubuntustudio motto - not xubuntu
[19:44] <daniell> hey there, I just installed the latest 14.04 beta over my old ubuntu gnome 13.04. I preserved my old encrypted home dir on a different partition. Installation went ok, but after the first reboot I'm now at the login screen and it hangs
[19:44] <daniell> no mouse/keyboard response
[19:45] <cfhowlett> daniell  until released, 14.04 support = #ubuntu+1
[19:47] <daniell> cfhowlett: allright I'll have a look there
[19:54] <nikolam> uh, suddenly audio mixer in xfce panel stopped doing it's job...
[19:54] <nikolam> not reacting to volume changes. dunno
[19:59] <nikolam> removing and adding mixer applet to panel and it started managing audio again
[20:21] <jocke> hi all,  do xubuntu provide some kind of "live search"  ?  (like spotlight in OSX)
[20:22] <ochosi> jocke: nope
[20:22] <ochosi> if you mean one that combines online and offline, then certainly no
[20:22] <ochosi> if you just want a file-search, you can use catfish
[20:24] <jocke> ochosi, I was more looking for a tool that let me use the keybord instead of the mouse for common tasks,  like for example I use  "apple+space+fi" to open firefox under OSX
[20:25] <ochosi> jocke: in that case you have two options
[20:25] <ochosi> 1) assign kb-shortcuts to applications (settings-manager -> keyboard)
[20:26] <ochosi> 2) use some launcher tool (e.g. xfce4-appfinder by default on alt+f2, or from 14.04 onwards whiskermenu bound on ctrl+esc)
[20:31] <jocke> ochosi, Whisker Menu seems to be what I am looking for, I running the live CD now so I can't install but this application is provided for 13,10 as well right ?
[20:41] <jocke> I realized I  can run apt-get  even if I run the DVD so I been able to install   whiskermenu,  this was exactly what I was looking for,  thank you!
[20:41] <jocke> ochosi, thanks!
[20:57] <jocke> Is it possible to map "apple+space" to open the  whiskermenu ?
[21:08] <Artemis3> i think so
[21:08] <Artemis3> jocke
[21:10] <Artemis3> configuration -> keyboard -> shortcuts ? you should just call whiskermenu (not sure what the name is)
[21:11] <jocke> Artemis3, I don't understand how, In the last answer here:  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=139752   there are no option for shortcut
[21:11] <jocke> Artemis3, sorry did not see your answer while typing
[21:11] <Artemis3> ignore mint
[21:13] <jocke> Artemis3, It was just that that is the only description over how to set this I been able to find
[21:13] <Artemis3> but mint doesn't even use xfce by default
[21:14] <Artemis3> no wonder you didn't get the answer there
[21:15] <Artemis3> oh live search? i wonder what is that? you can both search installed apps and there is another to search files
[21:16] <Artemis3> in a default xubuntu install, you will see at the botton panel the two magnifying glasses for these
[21:20] <jocke> Artemis3,  what do you mean with "the botton panel" ?  can't find the "the two magnifying glasses"
[21:20] <Artemis3> the one that looks like a dock
[21:21] <Artemis3> in a default install you get the icons there
[21:21] <Artemis3> when you move the cursor all the way to the bottom
[21:21] <jocke> hehe, unbelievable I did not see the dock until now!
[21:21] <Artemis3> its hidden by default
[21:22] <Artemis3> well looks like a dock, but its just another panel
[21:22] <jocke> ok, now I understand
[21:25] <jocke> Artemis3, earlier I write this:   I was more looking for a tool that let me use the keybord instead of the mouse for common tasks,  like for example I use  "apple+space+fi" to open firefox under OSX.. this is why I installed  whiskermenu (as a spotlight replacement)) .  The only problem is that I don\t know how to set the keymap
[21:26] <Artemis3> its right there where i told you
[21:26] <Artemis3> you just add a new one, and press the keys, then you put the command you want to run
[21:27] <jocke> *sorry for my spelling. my keyboard are not behaving as normal
[21:27] <Artemis3> its ok, im worse
[21:28] <hylian> hello al
[21:28] <hylian> *all
[21:31] <jocke> hmm, sorry I don't follow you.  add what?  press what?
[21:32] <jocke> Artemis3, above message was to you
[21:32] <Artemis3> menu > setting manager > keyboard > shortcuts  if your language differs the words will change
[21:33] <Artemis3> or is it configuration then settings manager?
[21:37] <jocke> Artemis3, OK, so I am able to open the dialog box  "Shortcut Command"     menu > setting manager > keyboard > Application Shortcuts > add (button)
[21:37] <Artemis3> yes thats it
[21:39] <jocke> the problem is that the  field for "Shortcut" are not available. There are only a field for "command"
[21:40] <Artemis3> also check above and replace the defaults :)
[21:40] <Artemis3> command goes first
[21:40] <Artemis3> then it will ask you which keys
[21:41] <Artemis3> you can set up many shortcuts here
[21:42] <Artemis3> some window manager related shortcuts are defined in the window manager settings instead
[21:42] <Artemis3> and its a good place to learn the defaults or change em
[21:45] <delt> Hello
[21:46] <delt> just wondering, after installing the nividia drivers, the splash screen gets replaced by a textmode screen with 4 flashing dots.... why?
[21:46] <delt> and how do i set it back to normal?
[21:50] <delt> oh and btw, the nvidia driver package did NOT ask me to reboot, or tell me that changes would be applied only on reobot.... as a user i had to "guess" that
[22:23] <Artemis3> delt, you have done well, intuition is part of the game :)
[22:25] <Guest65155> Artemis3, did you get my message ?  (not sure if my IRC client work)
[22:26] <Artemis3> type it here again
[22:26] <Guest65155> hi,  this is me how try to set up a application luncher,  My computer freeze so I think i better try to install xubuntu before i try to change anything.  I will try your suggestions then ,thanks !
[22:27] <Artemis3> oh you did this in a live iso?
[22:29] <Guest65155> yea ,,,  now I can't even find the name of the application I downloaded before  : )     Can you see it in the logs?  whiskybar something ?
[22:30] <Guest65155> *logs   =  what I been writhing here before
[22:32] <knome> Guest65155, i guess you are talking about whiskermenu
[22:33] <Guest65155> knome, yes, that was the name, thanks
[22:33] <Guest65155> I will write it down now  : )
[22:36] <Artemis3> install and then you can come back and ask again
[22:36] <Artemis3> Guest65155
[22:39] <Guest65155> Artemis3, yes i will not install anything again using the DVD, just wanted to know the name of the app.
[22:39] <Artemis3> ok
[22:39] <Guest65155> I really like xubuntu, you don't get all that amazon crap that comes with Unity.   Still I can't decide  if I should try Debian as well before I install Xubuntu.   My question is if somebody here been going down this path.  To try to get Debian to work on my macbook might be difficult ?
[22:40] <bazhang> ask in #debian
[22:40] <Artemis3> you might have to work a little more
[22:40] <Guest65155> I guess what I am asking is how big difference it is between xubuntu and debian
[22:41] <Artemis3> because ubuntu includes proprietary drivers and PPAs
[22:41] <Artemis3> The Xubuntu team makes a pretty theme you will lose as well
[22:41] <Artemis3> but i guess you can just install it
[22:45] <Guest65155> Artemis3, yes,   I have a macbook and I don't want to spend hours installing a system that will give me a lot of problem using the touchpad, multi monitors and so on.  If somebody else done this and giving up I don't want to repeat that process.
[22:46] <Artemis3> in Debian you need to do more work to set up your system, it might be simple or not i can't say because i don't have a macbook :)
[22:46] <Guest65155> It is a bit of a problem in the free software world that people don't tend to give negative reports  :  )
[22:46] <Artemis3> there is a hardware database for ubuntu somewhere
[22:47] <daniell> is having xubuntu beta1 and updating it the same as having a fully updated beta2 and once it's out a stable 14.04?
[22:47] <daniell> or will I need to reinstall the stable 14.04 when it comes out
[22:47] <Artemis3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops
[22:47] <Artemis3> daniell, no its the same if you just upgrade
[22:47] <bazhang> !final
[22:48] <Guest65155> Artemis3,  thanks, see you later
[22:51] <daniell> Artemis3: nice


[03:03] <tgm4883> bobweaver, Is there something that we can do with a lens? My understanding is that lenses are pretty vanilla
[17:15] <bobweaver>  Woot Woot Passport came today !!


[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:29] <oerheks> epic .. " Apparently Intel published their own paper on the same topic, after delaying the Hertzbleed publication for nearly a year."  https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1537137055842574340
[12:02] <Maik> leftyfb: you mean scortal?
[12:02] <leftyfb> the one and only
[12:03] <Maik> thought so :)
[12:04] <Maik> it's not the first time and he keeps postong random nonsense in the server channel too


 I ignore bot replies
[02:19] <bazhang_> that cant be good
[02:19] <bazhang_> and offtopic , too
[04:36] <ASHER1> Hello Again i have ban
[04:36] <ASHER1> about why now?
[04:38] <ASHER1> someone please tell me?
[04:38] <ASHER1> why set ban on ubuntu i remove script
[04:40] <IdleOne> Please be patient and someone will help you soon
[04:40] <ASHER1> what its this
[04:41] <ASHER1> all ops in ubuntu set ban not reason not nothing what its this
[04:41] <IdleOne> ASHER1: Please be patient.
[04:49] <bazhang> !list
[06:57] <ASHER1> Hello Again i have ban?
[06:57] <ASHER1> what its this game for to all someone ops
[07:12] <Flannel> Hi ASHER1.  You know not to run bots/scripts/anything automated in #ubuntu, right?
[07:23] <ikonia> ahhh sorry wrong user
[07:23] <ikonia> I was thinking of electron
[07:23] <ikonia> hang on, let me pull up the info
[07:24] <ASHER1> i not have
[07:24] <ASHER1> bots
[07:24] <ASHER1> or scripts
[07:24] <ASHER1> give me one log i set bots
[07:24] <Flannel> ASHER1: hold up a minute, thanks.
[07:25] <Flannel> ASHER1: So, looks like you already turned off your !list script, I'm going to unban you from #ubuntu now.
[07:26] <ASHER1> :\
[07:26] <Flannel> ASHER1: I just did, please rejoin #ubuntu and verify you can talk, to make sure I did everything right.
[07:26] <ASHER1> but i disconnect
[07:26] <ASHER1> and i connect
[07:26] <Flannel> ASHER1: What?
[07:26] <ASHER1> look
[07:26] <ASHER1> this from my internet
[07:26] <ASHER1> if i disconnet
[07:26] <ASHER1> then i connect
[07:26] <ASHER1> auto
[07:27] <Flannel> ASHER1: yes, is there a problem?
[07:27] <ASHER1> yes
[07:27] <Flannel> What's the problem?
[07:27] <ASHER1> in my internet
[07:27] <Flannel> ASHER1: Oh, we can't help you with that.
[07:27] <ASHER1> its my problem
[07:27] <ASHER1> but not set
[07:27] <ASHER1> ban
[07:27] <ASHER1> i not flood not spam
[07:27] <ASHER1> not inside bots
[07:28] <ASHER1> i only set my nick
[07:28] <ikonia> ASHER1: I think it maybe my mistake
[07:28] <ikonia> ASHER1: the time stamp on my client maybe having a problem, and I've made a mistake, for which I fully apologise to you
[07:28] <ASHER1> also i never used with bots
[07:29] <Flannel> ASHER1: Not bots, but some "I syndicate the following" script.  Which you already took care of 15 or so hours ago.
[07:29] <Flannel> ASHER1: and yes, as ikonia said, this last ban was in error.
[07:29] <ikonia> my fault, I'm very sorry ASHER1
[07:30] <ASHER1> look this i remove
[07:30] <Flannel> ASHER1: Can you please say something in #ubuntu so we can verify you can speak?
[07:30] <Flannel> ASHER1: yes, we know you removed it.
[07:30] <Flannel> ASHER1: thanks.
[07:30] <ASHER1> i talk
[07:31] <ASHER1> you know what i stye in here and look if i have bots
[07:31] <Flannel> ASHER1: I see you speaking in #ubuntu, thank you for confirming.
[07:31] <ASHER1> yes
[07:31] <ASHER1> you also can
[07:31] <ASHER1> try write
[07:31] <ASHER1> !list
[07:31] <ASHER1> there
[07:32] <Flannel> ASHER1: We know.
[07:32] <Flannel> ASHER1: We know you already removed it.  We made a mistake.
[07:32] <ASHER1> ok
[07:32] <ikonia> I made the mistake %100 my fault
[07:42] <ikonia> ASHER1: can you part this channel now please, and again, my apologies for my mistake
[07:43] <ASHER1> ok
[07:50] <ASHER1> Hello Again
[07:50] <ASHER1> now i know why you set ban
[07:50] <ASHER1> is have more asher
[07:50] <ASHER1> and this not me
[07:50] <ASHER1> i see now my log in mirc
[07:51] <ASHER1> 02[20:02] * thrasher194<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:51] <ASHER1> this not me
[07:51] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with thrasher
[07:51] <ikonia> it was just my mistake
[07:52] <ASHER1> ok but if you have problem with people inside proxy or flood inside Eggdrop + script this good
[07:52] <ikonia> I don't know what you're talking about
[07:52] <ikonia> I just made a mistake banning you
[07:52] <ASHER1> ok
[07:52] <ASHER1> i only try help
[07:53] <ikonia> thank you
[07:54] <ASHER1> anyway if this problem with proxy you can set script its work good
[07:54] <ikonia> ok, thanks
[07:55] <ASHER1> thanks to you
[12:31] <Eagleman> You have been muted due to automatically detected abusive behavior. If this is in error, please /join #ubuntu-ops and ask for an op to help you.  :S?
[12:32] <ikonia> lets have a look
[12:32] <ikonia> give me a minute please
[12:32] <ikonia> Eagleman: (what channel was his)
[12:32] <ikonia> this
[12:32] <Eagleman> floodbot pmed me
[12:32] <ikonia> what channel where you muted in , #ubuntu
[12:33] <Eagleman> but it pmed me after i said something in ubuntu
[12:33] <ikonia> it looks like an error with the bot
[12:34] <ikonia> I've removed the mute for you, sorry about that, and I'll speak to the guys who look after the bot
[12:34] <Eagleman> is everyone muted in ubuntu?
[12:34] <ikonia> no, just you
[12:34] <Eagleman> hmm ok
[12:34] <Eagleman> thanks
[12:34] <ikonia> (which you no longer are muted)
[12:35] <Myrtti> Eagleman: I think the bot is thinking you're spamming
[12:35] <Myrtti> try to not repeat the message so often, and change what you're saying a bit too.
[12:36] <Myrtti> it's a big channel, the population doesn't change that much in five minutes
[12:36] <ikonia> Myrtti: I thought that, but 10 minutes seems a reaonable delay
[12:36] <ikonia> not sure why a gap of 10 minutes would trigger that
[12:36] <Myrtti> might be character recognisation
[12:36] <Myrtti> too much fancy stuff
[12:37] <ikonia> possibly the snippet from the log seen as an exploit ?
[12:37] <ikonia> don't know
[12:37] <ikonia> see what the bot boys think
[12:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: if you're ok and working now in #ubuntu and don't need any more help from the ops team, could you please /part this channel so others could you it.
[12:49] <Eagleman> ok
 hi folks can someone help me to upgrade glibc to latest version ?
[17:58] <bazhang> surely thats not supported
[17:58] <bazhang> glibc is kind of important last I checked
[18:06] <IdleOne> probably best to not mess with glibc
[18:07] <IdleOne> pretty much touches everything
[18:07] <bazhang> thats what I thought


[07:52] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I would add all channels. Why would anyone add more cards, but only two channels from each?
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: the grey-out frame arround the window in 16.04 is also present arrouund the menus that pop up from the xfce4-pannel icons...
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> must be some png that was saved without the gammalayer
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> or is missing..
[11:22] <sakrecoer_> in gedit, the png frame is there, there is clearly a shadow shade...
[11:23] <sakrecoer_> in xfce4-pannel, its only the indicator plugin that gives the grey frame.
[14:08] <OvenWerk1> zequence: yes, I will add them all. I have to find out how many there are first as zita-ajbridge does not have a "useall" option.
[14:10] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: While I am sure the grey frame will get "fixed" in gedit, I am not so sure it will look like it belongs as it wants to draw it's own window decorations that are different from the rest.
[14:41] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I think I also need to be able to add interfaces to ignore: IGNORE=CAMERA AudioPCI,1
[14:42] <OvenWerk1> For example. (hw:AudioPCI,1 happens to block the input for AudioPCI,0)
[14:44] <OvenWerk1> ... not that very many people have those any more, I would actually block both because my purpose for the card is the MIDI port.
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: yeah... i struggled to understand what was missing at first. i think it looks good, but i don't think it is very clever of the gedit devs to do it like that...
[18:24] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: it looks good if everything else looks the same. In times gone by it was always a problem that kde apps looked very different from Gnome apps and older apps are different again.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: so there was an effort to make things so they could be somewhat unified.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> That seems to be going out the door again.
[18:30] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: take a look at xfig for what I mean by old  :)
[18:30]  * OvenWerk1 still uses xfig from time to time.
[23:46] <Accidentalmeme> Hello


[03:11] <zul> BenC: ping
[03:24] <BenC> zul: pong
[03:25] <zul> you didnt merge my hotplug stuff yet?
[03:34] <BenC> not yet, but I'll try to get it tonight or tomorrow
[03:34] <zul> cool no problem..
[03:35] <zul> If i dont bug you tomorrow have a good christmas ;)
[03:39] <zul> for #9891 i think we should just blacklist it
[03:45] <zul> and #10834 is finally back in my test tree ill put in my clean tree when i get a test compile going tomorrow
[03:46] <BenC> ok
[03:46] <BenC> if you are working on any bugs, how about adding "zul" to the whiteboard?
[03:46] <BenC> I've been (ab)using the whiteboard for custom tags
[03:47] <zul> sure that would be easier
[03:47] <BenC> I can just hear the users.."My bug got zul'd, anyone know what that means? Did I do something wrong?"
  I chatted with hpa yesterday about the changes I'm working on and he likes them all.
[01:41] <jbailey> Amusingly enough, apparnetly klibc is still targetted to be included in the kernel itself.
[01:41] <jbailey> kernel build, rather.
[01:41] <makx> yes it seems so
[01:41] <jbailey> That's why they just finished the change to kbuild.
[02:36] <zul> hey
[02:37] <BenC> good morning
[02:37] <zul> how is it going?
[03:12] <zul> god bless you ccache
[04:04] <BenC> it's going well
[04:04] <BenC> the new alternative_smp code seems stable
[04:04] <BenC> and I just finished porting it to amd64
[04:09] <zul> cool...im just doing a test build
[04:14] <BenC> it's been running all night on my P4, and I did a full kernel build (X running, GL screen saver)
[04:28] <zul> how does it work?
[04:28] <zul> ...from a users perspective
[04:29] <BenC> same as before
[04:29] <BenC> except it takes care of more cases
[04:29] <BenC> like complete functions that would normally be one-liners in UP
[04:29] <BenC> and also, if you happen to use cpu hotplug, and boot with one cpu, it will switch back to smp if you hotplug another cpu
[04:30] <BenC> also, it takes care of modules, which the old code didn't do so well
[04:34] <zul> neat
[04:34] <zul> well my patches new patches build ill push them later
[04:40] <BenC> ok
[04:41] <zul> working on the dbg stuff now
[04:41] <BenC> my entire tree is pushed if you want to make sure things are synced
[04:41] <zul> sure i have to sync my trees first..
[04:42] <zul> all the developers at work are getting drunk and playing poker..i was the first one out :(
[04:42] <BenC> hehe
[04:49] <jbailey> zul: Not good at drinking, or not good at playing poker?
[04:49] <zul> well both today
[04:50] <jbailey> I suggest you practice then. =)
[04:50] <jbailey> Start with the easy one.  Have another beer. =)
[04:50] <zul> hehe
[05:52] <jbailey> Are there any filesystems that support capabilities rather than just the sticky bit?
[05:59] <slushpupie> jbailey: what sort of capabilities do you mean?
[06:00] <jbailey> slushpupie: Like being able to set ping so that it saw CAP_NET_RAW at startup automatically.  That way it doesn't need to be suid root.
[06:04] <slushpupie> sounds like selinux stuff.  With selinux you can use any filesystem that supports extended attributes I believe
[06:06] <jbailey> Right.  I'm not looking for something that complete.
[06:35] <jbailey> BenC: Around?  I'm wondering if you know, it git, how to just pull the include/ subdir from Linus' tree?
[07:32] <zul> right im off...
[07:32] <zul> c ya later folks
[08:06] <BenC> jbailey: don't think you can do that
[08:06] <BenC> git tree's are like a cumlative thing
[08:16] <jbailey> Ah, okay
[08:16] <jbailey> I was hoping to just checkout part of the tree and have it all Just Work.
[08:17] <jbailey> Hmm.  bzr and git don't do that, despite svn and cvs doing it well.
[08:17] <jbailey> Perhaps I'll snivel at the bzr folks.
[08:24] <AcidPils> hi all
[08:24] <AcidPils> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/1060  <-- bugreport? or just m coincidence?
[08:31] <BenC> nvidia?
[08:31] <AcidPils> ati
[08:31] <BenC> fglrx?
[08:31] <AcidPils> jupp
[08:32] <BenC> it says tainted, and it's probably a conflict with fglrx and the new mm code in 2.6.15
[08:32] <BenC> since the crash came from Xorg, then the only thing you can do is complain to ATI
[08:32] <AcidPils> ati... i hate them really
[08:33] <AcidPils> they just make new versions for stable kernels :/
[08:33] <BenC> yeah, well, you'll have a stable 2.6.15 within a day or two :)
[08:33] <AcidPils> and in 3 or 4 weeks a new ati module...
[08:35] <BenC> I'm sure they have something working internally, they just don't want to release it yet in case Linus makes a last minute breaker
[08:37] <jbailey> BenC: Are we getting a 2.6.15 christmas release?
[08:38] <BenC> that's the rumor
[08:38] <jbailey> Cool.
[08:38] <jbailey> Then you get the joy of deciding what to backport.
[08:38] <jbailey> Lucky you. =)
[08:38] <BenC> when linus dropped rc6 he said something along the lines of "looks like we'll have a 2.6.15 fir christmas"
[08:38] <BenC> hehe
[08:38] <jbailey> That was remarkably quick though.
[08:43] <BenC> I think the new release process is working very well
[08:46] <jbailey> Well, once is not success. =)
[08:47] <jbailey> Alhough if they keep this up, do you think you'll try and push for the end-of-cycle release next time, or just play conservative?
[08:51] <BenC> I'd rather do like we are and let it harden up a bit
[08:52] <BenC> less chance for having to do security updates one week after our release :)
[08:53] <BenC> after 2.6.15 is released, I'll make a branch for dapper and follow 2.6.15.y, and then keep head following linus so dapper+1 will be easier to start
[08:53] <jbailey> Cool.
[08:53] <BenC> should be able to push a new kernel in as soon as dapper+1 opens
[08:55] <jbailey> Nice.
[10:13] <zul> hey
[10:15] <zul> is it just me or is bugzilla slow?
[10:16] <jbailey> Do you mean in general or just now?
[10:17] <zul> just now
[10:17] <jbailey> It's fine here.
[10:17] <zul> stupid rogers
[10:20] <zul> meh...ill be back later..


[11:29] <pieter2627> good afternoon all
[11:34] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 and everyone else
[11:35] <Kilos> oh and inetpro
[11:39] <pieter2627> Kilos: did you also have a power out yesterday?
[11:39] <Kilos> nope
[11:39] <Kilos> oh yes
[11:39] <Kilos> \but 2 mins
[11:44] <pieter2627> lucky, with that storm we had one for a few hours (isp seems to have been affected this morning)
[11:50] <Kilos> ai!
[18:05] <nasanzero> hi guys
[18:06] <nasanzero> what is the easiest way to cretate a gui application ?
[18:16] <Kilos> hi nasanzero
[18:17] <nasanzero> hi Kilos
[18:17] <Kilos> what do you want to do
[18:17] <Kilos>  be patient with me head eina
[18:18] <nasanzero> a basic interface written in c to interface with an arduino thru an emulated serial port
[18:19] <kulelu88> dafekk?
[18:19] <Kilos> always remember to explain what you want to do then when one of the guys has a chance hell help
[18:19] <nasanzero> i tried gambas , a visual basic type ide , but it has problems with kde
[18:19] <Kilos> hi kulelu88
[18:19] <kulelu88> yo oom
[18:19] <kulelu88> gaanit ?
[18:20] <Kilos> ek lewe nog dankie en slf?
[18:20] <Kilos> self
[18:20] <nasanzero> i am in no rush , its a hobby
[18:20] <Kilos> busy doing a 14.04 server install for ian
[18:20] <Kilos> someone will give you what you need to know nasanzero
[18:21] <nasanzero> thanks Kilos
[18:21] <kulelu88> who needs the interface? nasanzero or Kilos
[18:21] <Kilos> the family guys normally only get active after 8.30 family time
[18:21] <kulelu88> als goed hier oom
[18:21] <Kilos> nasanzero needs help kulelu88
[18:22] <nasanzero> i do , i just need to know which ide is the easiest to use , i read there are quiet a few qt, gtk , wxwidgets , etc
[18:23] <kulelu88> why can't you interface with the arduino via commandline?
[18:24] <nasanzero> its a pet project to show to friends , so command line will suit my needs but lacks the woooow factor
[18:26] <kulelu88> building GUIs can be shit hard and take up a lot of time
[18:26] <kulelu88> Kivy might work though
[18:27] <nasanzero> hi kulelu88 , i know ,  i have done them in VB . i like to port the code to linux
[18:30] <kulelu88> nasanzero: Kivy should be able to handle the interface
[18:30] <kulelu88> its python, so easier to code than C
[18:30] <nasanzero> i am reading about it , thanks kulelu88, i know abit about python
[18:34] <kulelu88> good luck bud
[18:41] <superfly> ohi
[18:41] <superfly> Qt is by far the best GUI library.
[18:41] <superfly> And you can use PyQt or PySide
[18:42] <kulelu88> Kivy seems more appropriate for interfacing with arduino
[18:42] <superfly> Ah
[18:42] <superfly> I've not done that sort of thing
[18:48] <nasanzero> qt creator ?
[18:50] <kulelu88> its 2015 and I wonder why desktop apps are still so difficult
[18:53] <nasanzero> ms has visual studio which is the standard , i guess coz of all the different flavours of linux its hard to standardise it
[18:54] <kulelu88> gtk can run across most linux distros comfortably, but it is split on 2/3
[18:54] <kulelu88> I guess QT is the biggest option now, but it is not *free*
[18:55] <nasanzero> and its c++ , not my language of choice
[19:06] <nasanzero> i am off good night all
[20:11] <Kilos> ai!
[20:11] <Kilos> as jy kan sukkel sal jy
[20:13] <totimkopf> Kilos: oom :)
[20:13] <Kilos> haha
[20:15] <Kilos> just done a serer install and cant get it to use the 3g connection from the router
[20:15] <Kilos> maak my mal
[20:17] <Kilos> server cant see a flash drive
[20:18] <Kilos> when i do lsusb it shows but i cant run rsync from the stick
[20:18] <Kilos> inetpro fix it
[22:17] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[00:03] <zmoylan-pi> i have bought a copy of playboy, it had a new short story by one of my favourite authors in it.  an a.c.clarke story.
[00:17] <diddledan> yeah mean they print intellectual literature?
[00:18] <zmoylan-pi> some important news and literature was printed there.  but we only remember the nudity now
[00:21] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-writers-published-in-playboy.php
[01:00] <diddledan> I wonder how much faster I can make my raid array by actually thinking about things like stride and stripe width of the filesystem and array
[01:01] <diddledan> atm the ext4 system is set to 128/128 for stride/stripe whereas it should ideally be 128/384 (4 discs, raid5)
[01:02] <diddledan> and the raid5 stripe width is 512K
[01:02] <diddledan> that is ofc if my maths is correct
[01:03] <diddledan> the block size of ext4 is 4k so 4*128 = 512
[01:03] <diddledan> ref: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Options_for_mke2fs
[01:04] <diddledan> maybe while I'm rebuilding it I should butter it?
[01:04] <diddledan> what's the current consensus over btrfs?
[01:42] <diddledan> has there been a delay in getting wily release candidate out the door?
[01:42] <diddledan> or are we not doing rc's?
[01:42] <diddledan> the release schedule says it should have landed on thursday
[01:43] <diddledan> odd. this page contradicts that tho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseTaskSignup
[02:24] <zmoylan-pi> oct 16 for release candidate according to http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/05/ubuntu_15_10_beta_two_review/
[02:24] <zmoylan-pi> maybe theyre counting with west coast usa time zone...
[02:25] <zmoylan-pi> still only 1925 there...
[02:37]  * diddledan watches the clock
[02:58] <zmoylan-pi> you should get a soviet clock and you'd never be lonely again :-P
[02:59] <diddledan> in soviet russia, time clocks you (upside the head, then ties lead weights to your ankles, and throws you in the river)
[03:01] <zmoylan-pi> no no that's only if you touch their car... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/russian-driver-throws-pedestrian-into-canal-for-touching-car
[03:01] <diddledan> (that's actually a paraphrase from Terry Pratchett referring to Ankh Morpork: "In some parts of the city, curiosity didn't just kill the cat, it threw it in the river with lead weights tied to its feet.")
[03:04] <zmoylan-pi> but in ankh morpork that would just slow the cat down as it tried to run across the surface...
[03:32] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeiI8cd5rO4
[03:46] <zmoylan-pi> is it sad that i think the soviet pcs on this site look cooler than modern pcs... http://rbth.co.uk/multimedia/pictures/2014/04/07/before_the_internet_top_11_soviet_pcs_35711
[03:47] <diddledan> lol
[03:47] <diddledan> yeah, but you like ancient tech as evidenced by your dumbphone fetish
[03:48] <zmoylan-pi> you say that like it's a bad thing :-)
[03:48] <diddledan> lol
[03:48] <diddledan> how do you expect to get hacked when you run obsolete technology that modern haxx0rs haven't even heard of?!
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> they'll just at the 5.25" floppy and their malware laden usb drive :-D
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> *just look
[03:49] <diddledan> I've got a 5.25" floppy drive hooked up to this pc
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> kinky....
[03:49] <diddledan> via usb
[03:49] <diddledan> :-p
[03:51] <zmoylan-pi> i remember around 2000 my boss issuing an edict to ditch every 5.25" drive in the office, we were done, no more 5.25".
[03:51] <zmoylan-pi> so we recycled the last 2-3 pcs that had them.
[03:52] <zmoylan-pi> the very next day i had to restore a backup from 5.25"...
[03:52] <zmoylan-pi> luckily i had hidden one under my desk.... :-)
[03:52] <diddledan> haha
[08:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:02] <directhex> paint it back is a paid picross game?
[10:00] <foobarry> anyone using cyanogen 12.1?
[10:00] <foobarry> have a couple of weird issues
[10:18] <foobarry> 1) receiving a call doesn't show the caller, just the dialler notification, and i have to double tap the notification to see who's calling. dailler is allowed to show notifications on my lock screen
[10:18] <foobarry> 2) random reboots while doing things while walking between wifi<->3g
[12:13] <SuperEngineer> Interesting.. tried the real nvdia [tested, not with updates] driver. Window moves / resizes were jerky, no real improvement in Steam games frame rate. Now back to using Nouveau.  Life is good again.
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> we need to get linus to send another message to nvidia? :-)
[12:16] <SuperEngineer> haha
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> or for halloween we could get 50 geeks dressed as linus to stand outside their hq
[12:23] <SuperEngineer> YIKES!
[12:24] <SuperEngineer> Thinking of video stuff, what would stop working if I removed flash plugin, would Firefox be able to cope?
[12:24] <zmoylan-pi> probably go faster... :-)
[12:25] <SuperEngineer> Would poo-tube stioll work
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> a lot of sites might get broken though...
[12:25] <SuperEngineer> darn!
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> i thought they hadn't converted all their videos to html5 yet
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> that, unfortunately, is what
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> ...I thought as well
[12:26]  * zmoylan-pi wonders how old that nugget is... ::goes to check::
[12:46] <Azelphur> Hey folks, just installed Xubuntu 15.10, added xorg edgers and installed nvidia-340. It doesn't seem to be working. I get an error in xorg.log which isn't so useful. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12817788/ any ideas?
[13:03] <popey> looks like the driver didn't get built
[13:04] <Azelphur> I just realised 340 isn't the latest, I believe 352 is? trying with that as we speak
[13:04] <diddledan> did you reboot?
[13:04] <Azelphur> yup
[13:05] <diddledan> is dkms missing perhaps?
[13:05] <Azelphur> aha, 352 fixed it, my bad
[13:06] <diddledan> yey
[13:06] <Azelphur> I did apt-cache search nvidia and picked the newer one, for some reason the nvidia drivers show up in two separate groups in the results
[13:08] <Azelphur> I'm getting some real bizarre behaviour, I just got my new monitors in, I thought perhaps a fresh install would solve it but nope
[13:09] <Azelphur> I occasionally can't type at all on the login screen (so I can't login) and I have one monitor flickering on and off sometimes
[13:10] <Azelphur> I can't even ctrl+alt+F1, although I can alt+sysreq+b
[13:51] <Azelphur> woa I think I got it working, I had a brain wave and realised that I'd swapped out everything except one thing, the DP cable.
[13:52] <Azelphur> now everything seems to be magically working
[13:54] <DJones> Does anybody know how the Win 8.1>Win10 upgrade works in conjunction with grub? Does it remove the grub bootloader,or does it still leave the grub bootloader in place
[13:54] <m0nkey_> yes it will
[13:55] <DJones> right, so grub reinstall is necessary
[13:58] <MooDoo> howdy all
[13:59]  * DJones hands MooDoo a cowboy hat, boots and sits him on a robo steer
[13:59] <MooDoo> yehaa!
[14:00] <DJones> :)
[14:02] <DJones> MooDoo: Looks like its time for a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTymtAbaG08
[14:04] <DJones> Damm.... When did Lee Marvin becoome a singing star
[14:05] <DJones> Oh yeah, its Wandering star
[14:05] <MooDoo> as soon as you said lee marvin, I knew what the song was :D
[14:05] <DJones> Heh
[14:06] <DJones> I don't if its my age, upbringing, or what, but this song always gets to me
[14:07] <DJones> Apart from that,I can't think of anything else he's know for singing
[14:08] <DJones> Even worse, I love the links from that youtube video
[14:35] <bashrc> is there any cdrom sized iso of ubuntu?
[14:55] <m0nkey_> get the server ISO, then install the desktop task
[15:14] <bashrc> miniubuntu ftw
[15:15] <bashrc> I'm installing on an old laptop, which can't boot from USB or DVD, but can boot from cdrom
[15:43] <m0nkey_> wtf? http://www.staples.ca/en/PlayStation-Plus-12-Month-Subscription-Card/product_1618694_2-CA_1_20001
[15:43] <m0nkey_> that doesn't make any sense
[16:44] <DJones> Where has the last 3 hours gone....youtube.....bluegrass music, Oh Yeah :)
[17:31] <MooDoo> evening all
[17:32] <brobostigon> evening MooDoo
[17:32] <MooDoo> :)
[17:35] <brobostigon> :)
[18:03] <mapp> HI;D
[18:10] <mapp> ug windy and rainy here
[19:00] <MooDoo> we've had to put the heating on tonight for an hour or so for the kids
[19:01] <DJones> MooDoo: Whats uo, where they not cooking well enough in the the oven
[19:02] <DJones> s/uo/up
[19:02] <DJones> Slow cooking is good, especially with gravy etc
[19:09] <MooDoo> lol
[21:52] <daftykins> hey all, been on my wanderings again, south-west Guernsey this time
[21:52] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5ibnpp8s9m20wb/IMG_20151017_174326.jpg?dl=0
[21:52] <daftykins> :)
[21:53] <daftykins> that's a beautiful view westward toward the Houmet Lighthouse (pronounced hoo-may)
[22:00] <penguin42> nice sunset
[22:02] <daftykins> 'twas!
[23:55] <Azelphur> http://imgur.com/e5WiRVo I think I have enough pixels now
[23:55] <penguin42> Azelphur: Not bad :-) How many of those are 4k ?
[23:55] <Azelphur> all of them
[23:55] <daftykins> naaaaaah
[23:56] <penguin42> Azelphur: impressive :-)
[23:56] <daftykins> is that a large radiator all the fans are on?
[23:56] <daftykins> for water coolings
[23:56] <Azelphur> daftykins: yup
[23:56] <daftykins> CPU only, or graphics card(s) too?
[23:57] <penguin42> Azelphur: What are the monitors?
[23:57] <Azelphur> daftykins: cpu only right now
[23:57] <Azelphur> penguin42: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-AMH-A409U-UHD-40-3840X2160-16-9-4K-LED-Monitor-60Hz-DP1-2-HDMI2-0-Remote-/321856997207
[23:57] <Azelphur> the setup still isn't complete, I have some more stuff to do over the next week which will make things a little better :)
[23:58] <penguin42> oh wow, didn't quite get the scale - those are 40?
[23:58] <daftykins> vewy gewd
[23:58] <penguin42> Azelphur: flightsim time then?
[23:59] <Azelphur> penguin42: yup
[23:59] <Azelphur> penguin42: dunno, could do, hehe
[23:59]  * penguin42 was thinking 2 or 3 like that and a thick glass top would make for a nice table


[01:39] <mneptok> bahahahahahaha!
[01:40] <mneptok> http://dammitcoetzee.blogspot.com/
[02:03] <astro76> not sure if this is intended, but ubotu and ubot3 are both in #ubuntu responding to triggers
[02:03] <nalioth> ,sigh>
[02:04] <astro76> didn't think so ;)
[02:05] <nalioth> sorry, my power cycled and network was lost
[02:05] <nalioth> i didn't think it'd rejoin channels it wasn't in before the outage
[02:06] <astro76> ah no worries, thanks!
[05:51] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, zbowling said: !bar is foo
[05:57] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, zbowling said: !caturday is not related to Ubuntu... your thinking lolcats... "I'm in ur base, killing ur doodz"
[07:45] <ubotu> r0bby called the ops in #ubuntu-arizona
[07:47] <r0bby> ping
[07:48] <r0bby> there is a bot lurking in #ubuntu-arizona -- nick is fredburger
[07:48] <r0bby> it's an infobot
[09:43] <ubotu> macogw called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:44] <Myrtti> taking care of it
[10:21] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:31] <PriceChild> *after checking +1's topic, remarks that his gutsy is no longer booting*
[01:32] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: why not?
[01:33] <PriceChild> Well if I knew that... it'd be booting now :P
[01:39] <PriceChild> I think I ought to run a fsck....
[03:07] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:56] <godzirra> Heya guys.  I've not changed my router at all and I've been ni the #ubuntu channel non stop for the past week or so.
[03:56] <godzirra> Then today when I joined it said I was affected by the dcc exploit.
[03:58] <elkbuntu> did you follow the instructions to fix the exploit?
[03:58] <godzirra> I'm not at home.  I'm ssh'd into my box.
[03:58] <godzirra> But I'm curious why it would change after me being in the channel for a long while?
[03:59] <elkbuntu> !dcc
[03:59] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:59] <godzirra> Actually, I did do what it said and its still making me join the read topic channel.
[03:59] <elkbuntu> someone did that, which had not been done before while you were in the channel, hence you'd never been hit.
[03:59] <godzirra> I just did /connect irc.freenode.org 8001 like the webpage said I should.
[03:59] <elkbuntu> what we do is manually ban-forward affected people so that the script kiddies dont get the kicks they want
[04:00] <godzirra> Ahh, ok.  Can you unban forward me then? :)
[04:00] <godzirra> please
[04:00] <elkbuntu> waiting for someone who knows the test strings
[04:01] <elkbuntu> seems to be ok. let me find you in the list
[04:01] <godzirra> Thanks.
[04:03] <elkbuntu> try now
[04:03] <godzirra> All good, thanks.
[04:04] <godzirra> Take care
[04:15] <Amaranth> !install
[04:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:34] <Amaranth> !livecd
[04:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:41] <profanephobia> hows it going?
[04:42] <profanephobia> i was wondering if someone here would unban me from -offtopic
[04:53] <profanephobia> anybody home?
[05:16] <Pici> Hmm... bots.ubuntulinux.nl is working oddly
[05:17] <stdin> it's been like that for a few days
[05:18] <Pici> I'm a bit out of touch, was on vacation.
[05:19] <stdin> I think it stopped working on fryday or saturday
[05:19] <stdin> s/fryday/friday/
[05:20] <Pici> I thought I was having DNS issues for a bit.
[05:24] <Amaranth> fun
[05:25] <Amaranth> guy just got banned from somewhere (he seemed pretty clueless about compiz) for flooding/trolling and knew enough to ask a staffer for a cloak to evade the ban
[05:25] <Amaranth> err
[05:25] <Pici> Amaranth: profanephobia was looking for an op earlier ^^
[05:25] <Amaranth> s/compiz/computers/
[05:25] <Amaranth> but he was asking for a way to get compiz :)
[05:26] <nalioth> Pici: really? i still get Binaries4All "you've entered the wrong URL" page
[05:27] <stdin> nalioth: http address goes there https just fails
[05:27] <nalioth> Amaranth: you around?
[05:27] <Amaranth> nalioth: mostly
[05:28] <nalioth> i hate folks who seek new cloaks for ban evasion purposes
[05:28] <profanephobia> hey can someone here remove a ban for me?
[05:30] <elkbuntu> profanephobia, you were already talking to me in PM, i had not said no, why did you come ask in here also? it's quite rude of you
[05:30] <profanephobia> elkbuntu, sry i thought you might have gone to sleep
[05:31] <elkbuntu> i was verifying your information. it sometimes takes a few minutes
[05:31] <profanephobia> elkbuntu, ah ok sry didnt know
[05:32] <Amaranth> huh
[05:32] <Amaranth> I own UbuntuBot
[05:32] <Amaranth> Oh, right, I was running a custom bot before the original ubotu
[05:34] <elkbuntu> profanephobia, my logs also indicate you saying unkind things about the operators of the channel. Do you promise to not display such behaviour if I unban you?
[05:35] <profanephobia> elkbuntu, yeah i was havin a bad day at work (well worse than usual lol) but yeah i wont
[05:36] <elkbuntu> profanephobia, do you also promise to refrain from discussing activities of questionable legality, such as torrents of copyrighted material, ie, movies?
[05:36] <profanephobia> elkbuntu, yes
[05:37] <elkbuntu> ok, you're unbanned, and on notice that if we see either of the above behaviours from you again, you'll be banned again.
[05:37] <profanephobia> elkbuntu, ok thank you
[05:39] <elkbuntu> now... bed for real this time
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:40] <Pici> Goodnight!
[05:44] <Amaranth> jenda: can you poke someone about compiz's group registration again? :)
[05:49] <nalioth> hi Seveas
[05:49] <nalioth> we have some questions  :)
[05:49] <Pici> Yes indeed.
[05:49] <Seveas> fire away
[05:52] <Pici> Seveas: bot.ubuntulinux.nl appears to be pointing to binaries4all and not the normal content we're used to seeing.
[05:53] <Seveas> hmm, apache fuckup is possible
[05:53] <Seveas> I rearranged many sites on that machine
[05:53] <Pici> Ah
[05:54] <Seveas> (binaries4all is the default domain on that IP)
[05:54] <Pici> (I figured)
[05:54] <nalioth> Seveas: the bantracker no longer exists in the proper place, either  :)
[05:54] <Seveas> nalioth, same host
[05:54] <Seveas> btw, was the bot offline for a while?
[05:54] <Seveas> Had a vpn fuckup as well :)
[05:54] <nalioth> Seveas: yes
[05:55] <nalioth> Seveas: you went on vacation and so did ubotu
[05:55] <nalioth> Seveas: and the site(s) disappeared at the same time
[05:55] <Seveas> yeah, I shouldn't do such things just before a holiday
[05:57] <nalioth> yeap, it broke ubot3 (the cron job grabbed a 404 instead of ubuntu.db)
[05:57] <nalioth> we had to scrounge an older db
[05:57] <jenda> Amaranth: will do
[05:58] <nalioth> Amaranth: what were you looking for with the compiz GCF ?
[05:59] <nalioth> hi jenda
[06:00] <jenda> hey, nalioth
 we have some questions  :) <-- any more?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> Seveas: sure.  are you ever goign to fully trust me?
[06:08] <Seveas> Hobbsee, so you want to continue where we stopped last week?
[06:08] <Seveas> I prefer not to do that and will put you in my ignore list for a while, sorry
[06:08] <Hobbsee> Seveas: unsure.  just wondering
[06:08] <Hobbsee> i'd prefer to go to bed, actually
[06:08] <Tm_T> Seveas <3
[06:09] <Seveas> Tm_T, ?
[06:09] <Tm_T> just nice to see you :)
[06:09] <Seveas> :)
[06:11] <Seveas> Just for clarification: <Seveas> I prefer not to do that <-- that does not refer to trusting, but to continuing
[06:13] <Hobbsee> right.  although of course, Seveas cant read this
[06:15] <Hobbsee> in the interests of anyone who *was* curious, though, i was not intending to have another slagging match with Seveas.  although it was a slightly loaded question
[06:26] <lokilla> olaa
[06:34] <nalioth> Seveas: can you let us know when the bots.* page is back up?
[06:48] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:49] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:49] <Hobbsee> [02:49]  [Notice]  -WindowsRuls- unban me
[06:49] <Hobbsee> [02:49]  [Notice]  Sending notice "why?"  You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Seveas said: !no ubotu is <reply> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:33] <Seveas> @loign
[07:33] <Seveas> @login
[07:33] <Seveas> !no ubotu is <reply> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:33] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[07:33] <Seveas> !ubitu
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubitu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Seveas> !ubotu
[07:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:34] <Seveas> !no ubotu is <reply> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:34] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[07:34] <Seveas> !ubotu
[07:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:35] <Seveas> @btlogin
[07:35] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[07:35] <Seveas> @btlogin
[07:35] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[07:35] <Seveas> @btlogin
[07:35] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[07:35] <Seveas> !mp3
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:35] <Seveas> hmm
[07:35] <Seveas> no btlogin :(
[07:36] <PriceChild> not god enough :P
[07:36] <Seveas> @quit Be right back!
[07:36] <Seveas> hmm
[07:36] <PriceChild> i meant to yay good.... but you're not god enough either it seems :P
[07:40] <nalioth> my ubot3 has gotten cranky, too
[07:44] <Seveas> nalioth, hostname for things is now ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:44] <Seveas> ubuntulinux.nl is being phased out
[07:46] <PriceChild> Wooo we have a bantracker :D
[07:47] <Seveas> @btlogin
[07:48] <Gary> woo, it looks like I have a lot less kicks n bans on this nick :-D
[07:48] <PriceChild> Gary, that's just asking for it... :P
[07:48] <Seveas> indeed
[07:49] <nalioth> thanks, Seveas
[07:49] <Gary> that was a bit, wasn't it
[07:49] <nalioth> Gary: were you volunteering to test my new alias?
[07:49] <Gary> i'll always be your GazzaK PriceChild
[07:49] <PriceChild> :D :D :D
[07:49] <Gary> nalioth, erm
[07:50] <nalioth> Gary: i can whip up an alias that'll ban you on every channel in freenode (and some new ones it'll make up as it runs)
[07:50] <Gary> mwhaaaaa
[07:50] <Gary> will that create a load of ban spam?
[07:50] <Gary> erm, thats not a ok to try it btw
[07:50] <nalioth> only once per channel, Gary
[07:51] <nalioth> and in most of 'em, ol' chanserv won't mind a bit
[07:51] <Gary> but there is lots of channels
[07:51] <Gary> do you hate me?
[07:51] <nalioth> i don't hate you, i thought you were complaining about not having enough bans
[07:51] <Gary> my /quit msg is very apt then
[07:52] <Gary> nalioth, big difference between an observation and a complaint
[07:52] <Gary> woo, I found a can of beer in my hotel room
[07:52] <PriceChild> Gary, pfft we've never cared much for technicalities like that
[07:53] <PriceChild> unopened I hope.
[07:53] <Gary> PriceChild, brand new, still with a plastic hoop thing and receipt, bought yesterday, two of, only one here now
[08:17] <Seveas> not cambridge unfortunately :(
[08:17] <nalioth> odd place to go for a visit, Seveas
[08:18] <Seveas> nalioth, datacenter visit
[08:18] <nalioth> sounds very interesting
[08:18] <nalioth> is Heathrow an actual city?
[08:19] <Seveas> don't think so
[08:19] <mc44> no
[08:19] <Seveas> but it has at least one hotel :)
[08:19] <Seveas> and quite a bit of datacenter space
[08:19] <nalioth> never would have thought
[08:20] <Gary> heathrow is just a airport
[08:20] <Gary> a rather large airport though
[08:21] <Gary> Seveas, whats your flight number?  I could call my mate in customs :p
[08:23] <Seveas> Gary, KL-666 :p
[08:23] <Gary> Seveas, now I know you are lying
[08:23] <Gary> tsk
[08:23] <mc44> schippol is a nice airport
[08:23] <mc44> it even has a casino
[08:24] <Seveas> it's the nicest I've been in so far
[08:24] <Seveas> seville being the worst
[08:25] <Gary> I like ams
[08:25] <Gary> it has smoking areas :-)
[08:25] <h4L1m> Hobbsee right here?
[08:26] <h4L1m> ?
[08:26] <mc44> No she isn't
[08:26] <h4L1m> i cant join ubuntu
[08:26] <h4L1m> #ubuntu unable to join channel (address is banned)
[08:27] <h4L1m> do anybody knows when she will come back?
[08:28] <nalioth> check back in 12 hours
[08:32] <Seveas> or 12 days :)
[08:40] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:41] <nalioth> heads up in #ubuntu
 LILO IS DEAD
 ENCYCLOPEDIADRAMATICA.COM
[08:42] <nalioth> yes, i got that
[08:42] <nalioth> i'm watching furrynemesis and w00t
[08:42] <Seveas> banned in #ubuntu and -offtopic
[08:43] <Seveas> furrynemesis sounds familiar to me, not in a negative way
[08:43] <nalioth> it caught my attention cuz moriarys 'real name' was ihatefurries
[08:44] <Seveas> ed.com/Lilo is sick :/
[08:45] <mc44> ed.com is sick
[10:07] <mneptok> holy crap Seveas has returned!
[10:09] <ompaul> mneptok, that is not the seveas you were looking for
[10:10] <mneptok> things are getting hard to find
[10:10] <mneptok> Firefox can't find the server at bots.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:10] <mneptok> :P
[10:10] <Seveas> mneptok, oh no!
[10:10] <Seveas> :p
[10:10] <nalioth> mneptok: read your backwash, er backscroll
[10:10] <ompaul> haha
[10:11] <ompaul> mneptok, so do you finish every line of speech now with the phrase "eh"
[10:11] <Seveas> ya know... compiz is actually getting stable
[10:11] <Seveas> it didn't crash on me this time
[10:11] <ompaul> Seveas, you used two words in the same line
[10:11] <ompaul> Seveas, very strange
[10:11] <Seveas> if it works on dual screen, I'll be pleased as punch
[10:13] <PriceChild> I run compiz fusion on gutsy on twinview... and its surprisingly "stable".... so "stable" that I have it autoload on login and don't worry.
[10:14] <Seveas> twinview?
[10:14] <Seveas> Is that xinerama?
[10:14] <ompaul> Seveas, yeap
[10:15] <ompaul> Seveas, are they = I don't know
[10:15] <PriceChild> nvidia's version
[10:15] <PriceChild> Seveas, pfft it'll be even nicer then
[10:23] <ubotu> neverblue called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:23] <Myrtti> +m?
[10:25] <ubotu> t2813 called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:25] <ubotu> w90 called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:25] <jrib> oh how nice...
[10:26] <PriceChild> nalioth, Am I being silly... but shouldn't straight forward bans also mute?
[10:26] <nalioth> no
[10:26] <PriceChild> Didn't know that :)
[10:28] <nalioth> gonna pull the +r and see what happens


[08:45] <tomwardill> first attempt at API for OCI Registry Credentials: https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/382651
[08:47] <SpecialK|Canon> cjwatson pappacena: Nice work both; very much agree on holding off going live unti lpost-release!
[08:47]  * SpecialK|Canon moves that l a bit to the left
[09:25] <cjwatson> https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/382484   quick trivial UI fix?
[09:28] <tomwardill> +1
[09:29] <cjwatson> And https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/381912 is a simple code tidy-up
[09:29] <cjwatson> Thanks
[09:30] <tomwardill> also +1
[09:32] <tomwardill> I did get very confused by the title of the first one
[09:32] <tomwardill> 'but why are we building images again?'
[09:32] <cjwatson> ah, sorry :)
[09:52] <cjwatson> tomwardill: and thanks, I'll look over oci-registry-credentials-api
[09:52] <tomwardill> ta
[11:01]  * tomwardill -> lunch
[11:29] <cjwatson> tomwardill: All right, you have a pile of comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/382651 now
[11:29] <cjwatson> ilasc: ^- You probably want to look over those as well, since they have some bearing on your UI work
[11:30] <cjwatson> And this reminds me that I need to get the production config ticket in to generate a registry credential storage key pair
[13:04] <tomwardill> sigh, that thing where pass-by-reference catches you out, again
[13:35] <tomwardill> cjwatson, ilasc: https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/382674
[13:35] <ilasc> thanks tomwardill
[13:35] <ilasc> looking now
[13:35] <tomwardill> now without me copying and pasting cjwatson's comment into the middle of it :)
[13:36] <tomwardill> if this push ever succeeds
[13:45] <ilasc> :)
[13:45] <ilasc> +1
[14:12] <cjwatson> tomwardill: r=me with a few comments
[14:13] <tomwardill> ta
[14:54] <tomwardill> after a brief fight with tests, landing that branch
[14:58] <cjwatson> Good stuff
[15:00] <cjwatson> Could anyone have a look over https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/381234 (built-using-model)?  It's had an overall direction review from William, but it needs more detailed code review.  You may need to look further up the stack (anything on https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+activereviews that mentions "built-using") for context.
[15:01] <cjwatson> I'm still working on the top couple of layers of that, but I think the lowest-level model branch and probably also built-using-ui is pretty solid now.
[15:06]  * tomwardill will have a look in a mo
[16:10] <tomwardill> cjwatson: having now implemented that branch, I'm unsure how it helps... as `getCredentials` will still attempt a decrypt, so it doesn't help in the OCIPushRule API
[16:10] <tomwardill> other than accessing _credentials directly
[16:11] <cjwatson> tomwardill: Well, we don't need to export getCredentials.  We could have a username accessor property that just looks at the unencrypted bit
[16:12] <tomwardill> ah, yes, that makes sense
[16:12]  * tomwardill goes back to arguing with interface declarations
[16:46] <tomwardill> cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/382651 is up again
[16:47] <cjwatson> Ack
[17:01] <cjwatson> tomwardill: r=me with a few tweaks
[17:02] <tomwardill> ta, looking now
[17:11] <tomwardill> fixed, landing
[17:16]  * tomwardill -> EOD, I'll pop back to poke buildbot if required


[10:29] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[20:38] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8y9T1MaP4


[06:38] <mrinvader> Hi all!!
[06:39] <diogenes_Vx15> !hi | mrinvader
[06:43] <mrinvader> Weird issue. Upon lightdm login, login dialog goes atay to an empty jammy wallpaper and login appears to proceed behind this, because when I switch virtual tty ctl+alt+F8 or Fwhatever then back to C A F7 the deshtop is fully loaded. If I do a hotkey app launch like flagkey T (terminal) or flagkey F (thunar) while at this blank wallpaper screen,
[06:43] <mrinvader> when I vtty flip, the app is running from the hotkey.
[06:43] <mrinvader> login dialog goes atay = login dialog goes AWAY lol
[06:44] <mrinvader> xubuntu 22.04
[06:45] <mrinvader> also reboot stops at the black screen
[06:45] <mrinvader> !hi diogenes_Vx15
[06:47] <diogenes_Vx15> mrinvader, is ir a real PC or virtual machine? since when you're facing this issue?
[06:47] <mrinvader> real pc
[06:50] <mrinvader> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
[06:50] <mrinvader> nvidia 390.151
[06:50] <mrinvader> GeForce GTX 570
[06:50] <mrinvader> 16gb ram
[06:51] <diogenes_Vx15> since when you're facing this issue?
[06:51] <mrinvader> a week after install
[06:52] <diogenes_Vx15> do you have 'session save' enabled?
[06:52] <mrinvader> i think the error is somewhere in the handoff between lightdm and xfce4
[06:52] <mrinvader> i dont believe so. gonna check.
[06:54] <mrinvader>  No, just prompt on logout. default as it comes. this was a clean install
[06:55] <diogenes_Vx15> you mean 'save session' option is enabled on  logout?
[06:55] <mrinvader> no. automatically save session is not checked.
[06:56] <mrinvader> this is from "session and startup" app in "settings"
[06:56] <mrinvader> and when i do restart or shutdown it isnt checked there either
[06:57] <diogenes_Vx15> mrinvader, you have to check it in 3 places: 1 in session and startup, 2 in settings editor > xfce4-sesiion > SaveOnExit (must be disabled) 3 on logout dialog
[06:58] <mrinvader> ooo thanks for location 2! checking now
[06:59] <mrinvader> xfce4-settings-editor right?
[07:00] <diogenes_Vx15> yes
[07:00] <mrinvader> dammit how is that checked??!! lol
[07:00] <diogenes_Vx15> so it was checked there?
[07:00] <mrinvader> yes. i swear i didnt check that
[07:00] <mrinvader> evil
[07:01] <diogenes_Vx15> now disable it and run: rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[07:03] <mrinvader> you sound like youve fought this issue before lol
[07:04] <mrinvader> mrinvader@skyfall3:~$ rm ~/.cache/sessions/
[07:04] <mrinvader> thumbs-skyfall3:0/
[07:04] <mrinvader> xfce4-session-skyfall3:0
[07:04] <mrinvader> xfce4-session-skyfall3:0.bak
[07:04] <mrinvader> xfwm4-2b40849a0-138b-46ab-8aad-378f5eff6992.state
[07:04] <mrinvader> xfwm4-2c01473d3-b1e3-4e78-8324-3fae5cf6ee90.state
[07:04] <diogenes_Vx15> yep this is one of the most harmful thing, you can't imagine how much troubles it can cause.
[07:04] <diogenes_Vx15> !pastebin | mrinvader
[07:05] <diogenes_Vx15> you forgot the asterisk there
[07:05] <diogenes_Vx15> not rm ~/.cache/sessions/ but rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[07:06] <mrinvader> thank you _likegike_ and @TheRedQueen
[07:06] <mrinvader> oops likegike
[07:07] <mrinvader> thank you ubottu
[07:07] <mrinvader> thank you diogenes_Vx15
[07:07] <diogenes_Vx15> ubottu, is a bot, he has no feelings :)
[07:08] <mrinvader> yeah basically dump the cached sessions directory
[07:08] <diogenes_Vx15> you need to remove everything in there and reboot.
[07:08] <mrinvader> what a hideous PITA re: sessions
[07:09] <mrinvader> i will be back to do a victory dance
[07:10] <diogenes_Vx15> well it's not guaranteed to fix the issue, it's just an attempt.
[07:23] <mrinvader> it didnt work... but the setting in xfce4-settings-editor did stay unchecked, and the sessions cache is still empty. it also still hangs at restart.
[07:24] <mrinvader> so more like a momentarily defeated shuffle than a victory dance
[07:24] <diogenes_Vx15> mrinvader, ok if you do flagkey T now, does the terminal open normally or you still have to switch to TTY and back?
[07:25] <mrinvader> nope still have to do the tty flip
[07:26] <diogenes_Vx15> ok now run in terminal: xfwm4 --vblank=off|
[07:26] <diogenes_Vx15> oops
[07:26] <diogenes_Vx15> xfwm4 --vblank=off
[07:26] <diogenes_Vx15> that one ^^^^
[07:27] <diogenes_Vx15> and don't close the terminal but try the flag key again.
[07:27] <diogenes_Vx15> wait
[07:27] <diogenes_Vx15> wrong command again, this one should be it:  xfwm4 --vblank=off --replace
[07:28] <mrinvader> flag key works once ive done the tty flip. everything behaves relatively normal. but before that it just sits at the lightdm configured wallpaper
[07:29] <mrinvader> like if i hit it right now, a menu pops up at the mouse pointer location
[07:29] <diogenes_Vx15> ok let's change it in the setting then.
[07:29] <mrinvader> ok i lied. gotta be at the desktop
[07:31] <mrinvader> ok i really lied. it doesnt work at all just to hit flagkey. i think xcape is no longer running in this session, which runs by default
[07:31] <mrinvader> by default xubuntu 22.04 runs xcape and a command parameter to make the flagkey behave like windows
[07:33] <diogenes_Vx15> ok let's try this, in terminal: mousepad .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[07:33] <diogenes_Vx15> find the line: <value type="string" value="xfwm4"/>
[07:33] <diogenes_Vx15> below that line add these two:
[07:34] <diogenes_Vx15> <value type="string" value="--compositor=off"/>
[07:34] <diogenes_Vx15>         <value type="string" value="--vblank=off"/>
[07:34] <diogenes_Vx15> save and reboot
[07:47] <mrinvader> ack. didnt work. but the settings did stick. i can also workaround the reboot freeze issue by doing "sudo shutdown -r now" at a terminal as well
[07:48] <mrinvader> there are some Issues with xubuntu 22.04...
[07:49] <mrinvader> another strong annoyance that ive worked around is the spin of vlc that comes with ubuntu is castrated by debian upstream to not play rtsp streams because of some obscure licensing thing...
[07:49] <diogenes_Vx15_> mrinvader, let's see if that actually was applied, run: ps aux | grep [x]fwm4
[07:49] <mrinvader> ack. didnt work. but the settings did stick. i can also workaround the reboot freeze issue by doing "sudo shutdown -r now" at a terminal as well
[07:50] <mrinvader> there are some Issues with xubuntu 22.04
[07:50] <mrinvader> that was typed in before you rejoined.
[07:50] <mrinvader> ps aux in process
[07:51] <mrinvader> xfwm4 --compositor=off --vblank=off
[07:52] <mrinvader> mrinvad+    1589  0.1  0.3<PHONE_NUMBER>4 ?        Sl   03:41   0:01 xfwm4 --compositor=off --vblank=off
[07:53] <KBar> mrinvader: you can't edit the perchannel-xml files while xfconfd is active
[07:53] <diogenes_Vx15_> ok let's see your system config: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:53] <diogenes_Vx15_> share the url
[07:54] <mrinvader> KBar it appears the setting took...
[07:54] <diogenes_Vx15_> KBar, the settings were applied after reboot:  xfwm4 --compositor=off --vblank=off
[07:54] <mrinvader> haah timing lol
[07:56] <mrinvader> that would make sense tho... that file may still in use perhaps and might be committed after a reboot with the old settings.
[07:56] <mrinvader> in this case apparently it didnt get recommitted.
[07:57] <mrinvader> inxi is a cool tool!!
[07:59] <mrinvader> wooooww... termbin is awesome!!! https://termbin.com/zj3v
[07:59] <mrinvader> nc is netcat i think
[07:59] <mrinvader> right?
[07:59] <diogenes_Vx15_> yes
[08:01] <mrinvader> Thank you BSD people, how i do love thee with all the grey in my beard!
[08:03] <diogenes_Vx15_> mrinvader, try this in terminal: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
[08:04] <diogenes_Vx15_> see if that fixes anything.
[08:05] <diogenes_Vx15_> ok i'll be away for some 20 minutes so brb.
[08:57] <diogenes_Vx15_> ok mrinvader left
[22:05] <proochles> yo
[23:12] <Astrael> Salut, il reste du monde ?


[02:21] <linurandy> hello to everyone, i've problem with my cryptosetup partitions, could anyone help me?
[02:29] <linurandy> empty chat room?
[03:12] <linurandy> empty chat room?
[05:10] <linurandy> hello to everyone i need help with my encrypted swap
[05:12] <linurandy> hello to everyone i need help with my encrypted swap
[05:28] <linurandy> i need help with swap encrypted partition
[06:19] <linurandy> i need help with encrypted swap partition
[08:11] <linurandy> hello to everyone i need help with a encrypted swap partition.
[08:13] <linurandy> hellooooooo
[08:14] <linurandy> empty???????
[08:22] <fleetfox> empty
[08:58] <linurandy> hello to everyone i need help with a encrypted swap partition.
[09:01] <fleetfox> doesn't sound like your problem is specific to gnome
[09:10] <linurandy> that's happen when i install with the iso ubuntugnome
[09:16] <fleetfox> what happens? You have not explained your problem yet
[09:16] <fleetfox> just keep spaming that you need help
[13:48] <jbicha> ricotz: only 7 vala rebuilds are new FTBFS, 3 are arctica-greeter, slick-greeter and unity-greeter which I assume will have the same fix
[13:48] <jbicha> the others are birdfont, diodon, libkkc and synapse
[14:00] <ricotz> jbicha, I assume mostly gtk+ binding related?
[14:05] <jbicha> yes
[14:05] <jbicha> oh, libkkc already FTBFS in unstable


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[01:34] <xnox> vorlon:  cool, new grub2 uploaded, should show up once built.
[01:36] <xnox> vorlon:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1856424
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