[08:09] <lockd> i used to program in Visual Basic, i'm lucky I never took a class on (and wasn't creative enough to use it much)
[08:09] <sayanriju> Amaranth: yup...but where is it!
[08:09] <marko> kill kompiz
[08:09] <marko> lol
[08:10] <bazhang> !se | marko
[08:10] <ubotu> marko: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:10] <Abu-Aadam> [chr0n0s]: anti depressants are good for video game addiction
[08:10] <KalEl> hi i want to play .amr file which my niece sent to me
[08:10] <Peddy> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1584/nvramte2.png (please help the peddy and he will ship a free complimentary no-charge no-strings beer).
[08:10] <lockd> bazhang: did he mention his language at some point or are you just guessing?
[08:10] <towlie_> is there a way to write to an hfs formatted partition in ubuntu
[08:10] <Amaranth> Peddy: stop manually installing the nvidia driver
[08:11] <bazhang> lockd: mentioned it--as in leet skillz lol
[08:11] <Peddy> Amaranth: how do I completely remove it?
[08:11] <Peddy> Amarath: so I can install from the Restricted Drivers manager
[08:11] <sweetgu1> abu-aadam... what do you say?
[08:11] <Amaranth> Peddy: reinstall the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic and nvidia-glx-new packages
[08:12] <[chr0n0s]> Abu-Aadam, is that true, i might goto a doctor, and what about internet addiction ?
[08:12] <KalEl> how can i play .amr audio files?
[08:12] <Abu-Aadam> sweetgu1: What do I say?
[08:12] <Amaranth> !offtopic | Abu-Aadam, [chr0n0s]
[08:12] <ubotu> Abu-Aadam, [chr0n0s]: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:12] <Abu-Aadam> [chr0n0s]: Yes I have some knowledge about medications for psychiatric problems,
[08:13] <Peddy> Amaranth: thanks
[08:13] <alecwh> I'm looking for a good GTK+ SVN GUI client, does one exist?
[08:13] <sweetgu1> Abu-Aadam: sure.. I need D2 cdkey.. i misplaced mine. if you no longer  use yours, i'll thank you and also you will be nice
[08:13] <sweetgu1> :)
[08:13] <Abu-Aadam> [chr0n0s]: PM me if you want to know about this
[08:13] <Abu-Aadam> sweetgu1: heh I havn't had a cd key for a few years
[08:13] <towlie_> have any of you used hfsplus ?
[08:13] <Amaranth> sweetgu1: Not in here please.
[08:13] <Varka> KalEl, realplayer should play them
[08:13] <Amaranth> towlie_: It's the Mac OS X filesystem
[08:13] <sweetgu1> lol
[08:13] <alecwh> Abu-Aadam: it's a good feeling, isn't it? =D
[08:13] <KalEl> Varka, ok thanks a lot i will install it then
[08:14] <towlie_> Amaranth, yes i know but i wanted to know about write support for hfs+ in linux
[08:14] <Amaranth> towlie_: Only if journaling is disabled
[08:14] <neopsyche> Can anyone confirm this info is correct for helping secure gutsy.. http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[08:14] <towlie_> Amaranth,  is it safe ?
[08:14] <Amaranth> towlie_: To disable journaling?
[08:14] <towlie_> Amaranth, yea
[08:15] <Amaranth> towlie_: Well, as long as you don't expect lots of sudden power outages
[08:15] <Amaranth> towlie_: Without a journal you also have to make sure to always properly shutdown your system
[08:15] <Abu-Aadam> alecwh: i don't know what you mean
[08:15] <towlie_> Amaranth, if i manually unmount it then i should be ok right ?
[08:15] <neopsyche> Can anyone confirm this info is correct for helping secure gutsy.. http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[08:15] <neopsyche> ???????????/
[08:15] <Amaranth> towlie_: or just shutdown properly instead of hitting the power button
[08:15] <sweetgu1> lol
[08:16] <fifo_> How can I get a list of file installed by openoffice. I am looking for some of the directories where it stores certain files, but don't know how to ask the package manager which files belongs to the package.
[08:16] <towlie_> is there a difference ?
[08:16] <Amaranth> towlie_: but hfsplus writing only works if you disable journaling in the OS X Disk Utility
[08:16] <sweetgu1> i have so meny clones no
[08:16] <towlie_> ahh nm then
[08:16] <Amaranth> towlie_: doing a proper shutdown unmounts the partition
[08:16] <towlie_> i know but if i do it manually its the same thing right ?
[08:16] <Amaranth> Yes
[08:17] <sweetgu1> yeah. it's all still a big d
[08:17] <UnixCrewTeam>  how do i upload phpbb
[08:17] <UnixCrewTeam>  how do i upload phpbb
[08:17] <sweetgu1> FTP
[08:17] <sweetgu1> unless your running the server
[08:17] <sweetgu1> on your computer
[08:17] <Velenoso> hello
[08:17] <sweetgu1> hi
[08:17] <alecwh> UnixCrewTeam: That's not an ubuntu question. Try #php
[08:17] <UnixCrewTeam>  where would i find the file to upload phpBB
[08:17] <Amaranth> alecwh: rapidsvn
[08:18] <sweetgu1> Unix: probably on phpbb.com
[08:18] <Amaranth> UnixCrewTeam: #phpbb
[08:18] <Amaranth> alecwh: ##php doesn't do random "how do I use this app" questions either
[08:18] <c1|freaky> what does "traverse" mean?
[08:19] <c1|freaky> in sense of file systems can
[08:19] <c1|freaky> or smth like that
[08:19] <c1|freaky> ?
[08:19] <Velenoso> How does one reposition shortcuts, etc on the top panel once they've been added?
[08:19] <alecwh> Amaranth: Thanks for the suggestion on rapidsvn, and it would be a better place than here.
[08:19] <towlie_> i have 2 hard drive partitions that show up with the label hda2 and hda3 on my desktop. how can i change the label ?
[08:19] <jeduan> i have some sort of bug when shutting down or closing session that hangs the computer. any ideas?
[08:19] <Amaranth> c1|freaky: traverse when talking about files would be to go through a directory and all of its subdirectories
[08:19] <sweetgu1> right
[08:20] <c1|freaky> ok
[08:20] <c1|freaky> thank you :d
[08:20] <sweetgu1> jeduan: become friends with the power button
[08:20] <Amaranth> jeduan: nvidia?
[08:20] <Amaranth> Velenoso: right click on them
[08:20] <sweetgu1> towlie_: fdisk
[08:20] <towlie_> ?
[08:20] <towlie_> fdisk modifies partitions
[08:20] <Amaranth> it can set msdos labels too
[08:20] <towlie_> how
[08:20] <Amaranth> but that's probably not what you want
[08:20] <Velenoso> Amaranth, thanks. I'm sorry, I'm new to this.
[08:20] <jeduan> yeah, i do the power button, but it's fugly, because i have to fsck each powerup, i'm on an intel 855gm
[08:20] <towlie_> no
[08:21] <Amaranth> jeduan: hrm, never heard of that one then
[08:21] <Amaranth> jeduan: it locks up on logout? are you using desktop effects?
[08:21] <nucco> anyone has problems printing from evince here?
[08:21] <jeduan> yeah, it's weird, as i reinstalled and i had no problem before.
[08:21] <jeduan> Amaranth: yeah, using compiz fusion,  hadn't thought of that
[08:22] <Amaranth> jeduan: Ubuntu 7.10?
[08:22] <kodemage> >	I'm looking for an in-depth tutorial on using compiz-fusion with a dual monitor set-up. I'm on ubuntu 7.10 and my card is a Gforce4 4200. I keep having the same problem where the desktop is larger sized than the monitor and it kinda "scrolls" at the edges when "twin view" is enabled.
[08:22] <Zippy111> Hi guys anychance of a helping hand please, total newb here having serious problems getting my head round  ubuntu!
[08:22] <wizcd> towlie sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/NAME
[08:22] <Amaranth> kodemage: That's not a compiz problem then
[08:22] <fifo_> I can't believe there is no way to see which files a package installed. Or is there?
[08:22] <Amaranth> fifo_: dpkg -L <packagename>
[08:22] <kodemage> Amaranth: is it an X problem?
[08:22] <sweetgu1> yeah that's called bad personality
[08:23] <Amaranth> fifo_: or look at the package properties in synaptic after you've installed it
[08:23] <Amaranth> kodemage: yeah
[08:23] <fifo_> Amaranth: thanks
[08:23] <Amaranth> kodemage: well, either that or you're zooming in compiz
[08:23] <krupa^> hey, i just installed a brand new webserver on my apache, and i want to duplicate my old components that installed on my php to the new one.. any idea how?
[08:23] <wizcd> zippy: post you question
[08:23] <Zippy111> Thx wiz
[08:23] <Amaranth> kodemage: does it do it with metacity too?
[08:23] <jeduan> amaranth: yeah, 7.10 just reinstalled. the computer hangs, cpu usage goes up (i know because of the vents) and alt+sysrq+reisub won't do any effect
[08:23] <kodemage> no, I'm not zooming, I know how that works. (Although I thought the same too)
[08:23] <Amaranth> jeduan: ouch, see if it happens without compiz
[08:23] <infidel_> Zippy111: it takes a while
[08:23] <ridge-meister> where on the web can i find the Python string API?
[08:23] <jeduan> gonna try
[08:24] <ridge-meister> i googled, but am getting stuff like the Python/C API
[08:24] <Amaranth> ridge-meister: err, python.org
[08:24] <kodemage> I don't have the foggiest idea what metacity is, besides the fact that I can edit to launch the gnome-launch-box
[08:24] <Amaranth> kodemage: metacity is "No Effects"
[08:24] <bazhang> diveintopython is good as well
[08:24] <windego40> anyone know where i can read about ssh?
[08:24] <Peddy> how do I join ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:24] <towlie_> so does anyone know ?
[08:24] <Zippy111> right I cant seem to get my wireless working basicly, it acknowledges its there but wont let me connect, i tried so many diffrent things my head is hurting, any help you could give me would be great!
[08:24] <kodemage> then, no, the problem does not occur then, I'm in that mode now
[08:24] <krupa^> hey!! i just installed a brand new webserver on my apache, and i want to duplicate my old components that installed on my php to the new one.. any idea how?
[08:25] <Amaranth> ridge-meister: specifically, http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq.html
[08:25] <towlie_> i have 2 hard drive partitions that show up with the label hda2 and hda3 on my desktop. how can i change the label ?
[08:25] <Amaranth> kodemage: in that case you must be zooming
[08:25] <wizcd> towlie sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/NAME
[08:25] <kodemage> although I had to modify my xconf.org by hand, the different automated editors always mess it up
[08:25] <Amaranth> kodemage: in Advanced Desktop Effects Settings disable Zoom and Enhanced Zoom (make sure they're unchecked)
[08:26] <infidel_> Zippy111: what is the make and model?
[08:26] <kodemage> Amaranth: I actually did that, nothing changeg
[08:26] <Amaranth> kodemage: In that case I guess try #compiz-fusion
[08:26] <ere4si> towlie: you need to create a folder in /media that has the name you want e.g /media/windows - then unmount the partition and remount to the new folder
[08:27] <kodemage> Amaranth: So, what if I am remembering incorrectly and it is a problem in Metacity? I don't have the problem now and I can't enable advanced effects.
[08:27] <Amaranth> kodemage: Now you're not making sense
[08:27] <Zippy111> sorry
[08:27] <Zippy111> dell wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[08:27] <kodemage> I asked in compiz-fusion, I'm waiting for a response. (They were chatting about something creepy)
[08:27] <Amaranth> kodemage: Does Super-e do anything? (windows key)
[08:27] <Amaranth> Zippy111: That's a broadcom
[08:27] <Amaranth> !broadcom | Zippy111
[08:27] <ubotu> Zippy111: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:28] <kodemage> no, expose is not enabled
[08:28] <Amaranth> bleh, that link sucks
[08:28] <Amaranth> kodemage: super-e is expo
[08:28] <Amaranth> kodemage: do you have shadows on your windows?
[08:28] <Amaranth> kodemage: We really shouldn't be doing this in here, it's offtopic
[08:28] <Zippy111> hmm ill go thru it again 1 sec
[08:29] <kodemage> it's ok, I have some people on in compiz-fusion room
[08:29] <malikor> i have a question
[08:29] <infidel_> Zippy111: so you have used the ndis wrapper?
[08:29] <ridge-meister> Amaranth: thanks :D
[08:29] <Amaranth> !bcm43xx | Zippy111
[08:29] <ubotu> Zippy111: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[08:29] <Amaranth> Zippy111: much better link
[08:29] <kodemage> and I do not have any desktop effects enabled and they won't enable, I get a "unable to enable effects" dialog, or something similar
[08:29] <MongooseWA> can someone help me get wireless to work on my laptop? i'm being forced to use xp..
[08:30] <ere4si> !wireless
[08:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:30] <appye> I am wanting to know how I may simulate an acpi event via the command line.  I figure that if I script it on hibenation resume, then my power management will work correctly.
[08:30] <malikor> I need to know how I can order/download the ISO image for Ubuntu. I want the setup image to install on a PC, not the Live CD image
[08:30] <Amaranth> appye: What are you trying to do?
[08:30] <Amaranth> malikor: The Live CD is also an installer
[08:31] <Amaranth> malikor: On the desktop there is an 'Install' icon
[08:31] <ere4si> malikor: the server edition is non gui
[08:31] <malikor> So I must boot from the CD into the GUI in order to install it?
[08:31] <Amaranth> malikor: Yes
[08:32] <Amaranth> malikor: Or download the alternative iso
[08:32] <malikor> Alternative ISO?
[08:32] <SatManUK> adaptec-installer keeps crashing on a Fujustsu Laptop - can i use another package manager like synaptic?
[08:32] <erUSUL> !alternate | malikor
[08:32] <ubotu> malikor: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:32] <appye> Amaranth: I am trying to get my power management working correctly.  Here is a link to the question I asked in the forum if you want the full explanation:
[08:32] <appye> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618916
[08:33] <malikor> Alright, thank you. I'll just use the Live CD so as not to mess anything up
[08:33] <ere4si> !minimal
[08:33] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:33] <SatManUK> she is trying to install sun-java6-jre but its asking her to agree to a licence agreement - how to accept it in a text box?
[08:34] <ridge-meister> Amaranth: not sure if I asked the right question, what I am wanting to do is use the methods of string.  is the Python/C API the correct place to look for that?  i'm wanting to compare strings.
[08:34] <Amaranth> ridge-meister: You're overthinking
[08:34] <towlie_> when i plug in my hard drive i get an error "you are not privileged to mount the volume EXTERNAL". if i open terminal and mount it manually it mounts. what can i do to fix this error ?
[08:34] <ronnie> so many peaepel...........
[08:34] <Amaranth> ridge-meister: if str1 == str2: do_something()
[08:34] <ronnie> so many people
[08:34] <ronnie> XD
[08:34] <Amaranth> ridge-meister: #python for further questions
[08:35] <bazhang> SatManUK: tab to the ok then hit return
[08:35] <appye> Amaranth: basically, I want to try and make the system think I have closed the lid on the laptop via typign in a command
[08:36] <appye> instead of closign the laptop lid itself.
[08:36] <Zippy111> GRRRRRRRR The thing that REALLY irritates me, is im looking at getting my wireless working on my laptop, there are no other means of the laptop connecting, and pretty much EVERY guide says just connect and download this, that or the other, now to me as someone who is leaving windows this really, really doesnt make any sense!!!
[08:36] <Tyroazard> Is there any way to find port 5?
[08:36] <Zippy111> my wireless doesnt work so I CANT connect ;(
[08:36] <towlie_> can anyone help me out ?
[08:36] <SatManUK> bazhang: how to use an alternative package manager - because adaptec is crashing
[08:36] <Amaranth> appye: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernatebtn.sh
[08:37] <SatManUK> she keeps getting sigterm errors on it
[08:37] <Amaranth> appye: that runs acpi_fakekey
[08:37] <Amaranth> appye: but just run that script, it does it for you
[08:37] <bazhang> SatManUK: tried via the command line? apt-get
[08:37] <SatManUK> yes but she wants to click and get..
[08:37] <towlie_> ok guys im having a problem
[08:37] <SatManUK> she is a linux novice totally and doesn't want to keep command line installing everything..
[08:37] <bazhang> Zippy111: you ok with the terminal--or willing to learn?
[08:37] <ere4si> Zipp111: my ubuntu live cd has ndiswrapper as a file on it - put it in and browse the cd
[08:38] <Amaranth> appye: also see /etc/acpi/sleepbtn.sh
[08:38] <SatManUK> and she has no patience..
[08:38] <appye> Amaranth: this is not what I really want to do though.  I need specifically to tell it that the lid has been closed and reopened, not to simply run hibernate from the command line.
[08:38] <Zippy111> willing to learn ;)
[08:38] <Amaranth> SatManUK: #kubuntu
[08:38] <erUSUL> SatManUK: she can use synaptic
[08:38] <Amaranth> SatManUK: We don't use adept in Ubuntu
[08:38] <SatManUK> she is using kubuntu
[08:38] <Zippy111> will try, thanks for help guys
[08:38] <Amaranth> appye: himm
[08:38] <bazhang> SatManUK: well the command line is not so bad, and if your around to help then no worries--alternately you can use synaptic
[08:38] <SatManUK> ok /j kubuntu
[08:39] <ridge-meister> Amaranth: this is what I needed -> http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html , thanks for the help ;)
[08:39] <erUSUL> SatManUK: she can install synaptic in kubuntu...
[08:39] <ferronica> i ordered ubuntu live exaile player not included in it ?
[08:39] <SatManUK> i didn't realise there were different channels for different flavours .. thanks..
[08:40] <towlie_> what controls automounting of usb devices like hard drives ?
[08:40] <Amaranth> appye: maybe sudo sh -c 'echo closed > /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state'
[08:40] <windego40> anyone use ipod touch on here?
[08:40] <erUSUL> towlie_: hald + udev  afaik
[08:40] <crdlb> towlie_: gnome-volume-manager
[08:40] <Amaranth> windego40: to use it with linux you have to jailbreakk it
[08:41] <appye> Amaranth: nor the sleep button.  Basically, this laptop's power management events (lid close, automatic hibernation after specified interval, etc) does not work correctly until I close and reopen the lid once.  Weird, but it is true.  I figure if I can simulate a close/open of the lid it will be a workaround that works for me.
[08:41] <appye> Amaranth: okay, i will try that right now.
[08:41] <windego40> Amarath: yeah i have and ive mounted but i had changed the password on it and now i cant get into it
[08:42] <ere4si> towlie_: check your users permissions in - applications - system - admin - users and groups
[08:42] <windego40> Amaranth: any idea on what i can try?
[08:42] <cool_> how to convert AVI to 3GP?
[08:43] <Amaranth> windego40: you have to go back to Windows or OS X and reflash the thing then jailbreak it again
[08:43] <towlie_> ere4si, ok the option to access external drives automatically is checked
[08:43] <Amaranth> windego40: make sure you get all your stuff off of it first
[08:43] <appye> Amaranth: invalid arguement
[08:43] <ere4si> k
[08:43] <Amaranth> appye: Yeah, I didn't really think you could change that manually
[08:44] <Amaranth> appye: you could check out acpi_fakekey
[08:44] <cool_> i tried this http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/
[08:44] <windego40> Amaranth: if you mean restore it. ive tried that but itunes cant go into it
[08:44] <cool_> but i get a error
[08:44] <Amaranth> windego40: how did you manage that?
[08:44] <Amaranth> windego40: anyway, sounds like you've bricked it
[08:44] <brandon_> hey guys for some reason america's army isn't working for me it says that the server is down why is that?
[08:44] <Amaranth> brandon_: Maybe the server is down?
[08:45] <windego40> Amaranth: that doesnt sound too good....
[08:45] <Raspberry> I'm having trouble getting the USB Wireless adapter (Netgear WG111T) working with linux
[08:45] <Amaranth> windego40: maybe http://www.iphonealley.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1893 can help
[08:45] <cool_> how to convert AVI to 3gp. i tried http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/ but i error "Unable to find a suitable output format for 'qcif'
[08:45] <domor> Hello has anyone had problems wiht restricted drivers in ubuntu 7.1
[08:45] <Amaranth> windego40: iphone and ipod touch use the exact same software so...
[08:45] <cool_> what do i do?
[08:46] <Raspberry> it seems the AP and even sets the IP, but will never transfer any data
[08:46] <domor> Hello has anyone had problems wiht restricted drivers in ubuntu 7.1
[08:46] <domor> Hello has anyone had problems with restricted video card drivers in ubuntu 7.1
[08:46] <bazhang> domor: be more precise please
[08:46] <windego40> Amarath: ok ill read up thanks :)
[08:46] <cool_> how to convert AVI to 3gp. i tried http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/ but i error "Unable to find a suitable output format for 'qcif'
[08:46] <domor> Install restricted driver for video card and then restart and canoot boot into ubuntu screen turns off
[08:47] <brandon_> amaranth: well thats a possiblity but I want to make sure because I don't know if I need any patches or if Im in an older version of the game
[08:47] <Amaranth> brandon_: The only time I ever played it was on OS X so...
[08:47] <Amaranth> brandon_: See if you can find an AA irc channel
[08:48] <domor> Install restricted driver for video card and then restart and canoot boot into ubuntu screen turns off
[08:49] <domor> Install restricted driver for video card and then restart and canoot boot into ubuntu screen turns off
[08:49] <bazhang> domor: you really need to give more info--also please be patient and stop re-entering every 30 seconds
[08:49] <ere4si> !patience | domor
[08:49] <ubotu> domor: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:49] <ferronica> enable ups discharge alarm not working (ubuntu 7.10 gnome)
[08:49] <domor> sorry guys
[08:50] <ronnie> what happened
[08:51] <ere4si> domor: choose the rescue kernel at boot and then type    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and select vesa as the video card driver - defaults for the others
[08:51] <domor> ere4si: i have tryed that
[08:52] <ere4si> * other options
[08:52] <ere4si> and?
[08:53] <towlie_> is anyone here
[08:53] <cool_> how to convert AVI to 3gp. i tried http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/ but i error "Unable to find a suitable output format for 'qcif' then again i complied it from source using svn but still i get the same error msg. FFmpeg version SVN-r11071
[08:53] <domor> ere4si: it didn;t work, so i realoded ubuntu and i wan;t advice on what i can do (uve rryed installing it twice and fixing it but i have had to realod ubuntu both times)
[08:53] <neopsyche> Hi .. I need to convert some video from mpeg2 to flv on ubuntu..
[08:54] <neopsyche> How can i do this?
[08:54] <domor> ere4si: it didn't work, so i reloaded ubuntu and i want advice on what i can do (ive tryed installing it twice and fixing it but i have had to realoaded ubuntu both times)
[08:54] <jickles> how can I change the hardware beep to something else?
[08:54] <ere4si> domor: choosing vesa always gets a gui desktop
[08:54] <Nitro`> Hello everyone
[08:54] <ere4si> !repeat | domor
[08:54] <ubotu> domor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:55] <towlie_> ive got a problem. my usb hard drive doesnt automount. it gives me an error with the mount point. when i manually mount it, gnome opens up a new nautilius folder of the usb hard drive but its frozen like its trying to read the drive. any idea whats wrong ?
[08:55] <domor> ere4si: corrections sorry
[08:55] <ere4si> k
[08:55] <domor> ere4si do you think i shoudl try restircted driver again
[08:55] <domor> ere4si someone suggested installing this driver http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.htm
[08:56] <ronnie> yeah
[08:56] <ere4si> domor: maybe the video card is not being recognized properly - do you know the model?
[08:57] <Zippy111> my god i feel so angry / helpless, im loosing it!!! GRRR the worst thing is, I study computers at Uni and I cant get my head round this! its mental!!
[08:57] <Amaranth> Zippy111: the answer is "install the firmware"
[08:57] <erUSUL> has anyone here had problems with the menu and menuxdg packages? the debian menu doesn't appear here (ubuntu 7.10 x86_64)
[08:57] <Amaranth> there is a package that basically does everything for you
[08:57] <Amaranth> erUSUL: sudo update-menu
[08:57] <erUSUL> Amaranth: thanks
[08:57] <domor> ere4si: MSI NX 8500gt, nvidia geforce chipset
[08:57] <ere4si> Zipp111: it is hard but the ubuntu cd is only for the basic OS - the rest is from the net
[08:57] <ferronica> enable ups discharge alarm not working (ubuntu 7.10 gnome)
[08:58] <ere4si> domor: brb
[08:58] <Zippy111> but i cant get to the net dude, i fill out the wireless details and it doesnt connect
[08:58] <Amaranth> Zippy111: plug in with a wire
[08:58] <Amaranth> Zippy111: you're on the net now...
[08:58] <Zippy111> on a seperate pc
[08:58] <domor> ere4si: ok
[08:58] <Zippy111> and i dont have a wire
[08:59] <bazhang> Zippy111: trying to get the firmware without an ethernet connection is not an easy task. no way to borrow one?
[09:00] <Zippy111> when you say firmware you mean the wireless driver? if you do, i downloaded it off this pc, put it on usb and dropped it on the laptop
[09:00] <erUSUL> Amaranth: imho the instalation of that packages should trigger the update-menus automatically, shouldn't it?? should i report that as a bug?
[09:00] <towlie_> my usb hard drive doesnt automount anymore. can anyone please help me
[09:01] <erUSUL> towlie_: verify that hald is up and running
[09:01] <acha> juki.......................
[09:01] <radinp> How do I view the current channel/freq being used by a wireless network card? I thought iwconfig would display that info but it does not.
[09:01] <towlie_> erUSUL, it is
[09:01] <Amaranth> erUSUL: eh, the whole thing is going away anyway
[09:01] <bazhang> Zippy111: dropped it on the laptop? how did you go about installing it?
[09:01] <brandon_> do any of you guys use steam?
[09:01] <Amaranth> erUSUL: It might have already in Debian actually
[09:01] <Amaranth> brandon_: works in wine
[09:02] <acha> devil
[09:02] <brandon_> amaranth: I know but its lagging and I was wondering if there was anything I could do about it
[09:02] <Amaranth> Zippy111: I mean bcm43xx-fwcutter and a copy of the windows driver
[09:02] <Zeddie> brandon_ : if you only want to check if your friends are online , you can use the steam community link in your browser :)
[09:02] <Zippy111> just like it said here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 except i substituted the name, i got to step 6, saw my settings were diff, and just gave up too much tech mumbo jumbo, making the swap from windows is NOT an easy one!!!
[09:03] <Amaranth> brandon_: Sounds like you or your ISP is having connectivity issues
[09:03] <brandon_> zeddie: no I want to use it lol but it lags to much
[09:03] <Amaranth> Zippy111: ugh
[09:03] <Zeddie> ahh I tend to reboot into windows for that :p
[09:03] <brandon_> amaranth: no I meant that its glitchy like frames per second wise
[09:03] <Amaranth> Zippy111: Clean install of Ubuntu 7.10 with access to a wired connection would have the whole thing working through a GUI
[09:03] <erUSUL> Amaranth: will it be replaced by anything new? it is a usefull thing
[09:03] <Amaranth> erUSUL: Yes, it's being replaced by the regular menu
[09:04] <Zippy111> im using 7.04
[09:04] <Zippy111> is it worth the download of the new update?
[09:04] <abhibera> does any one know why don't i get a complete right click menu in beryl?
[09:04] <Amaranth> Zippy111: yes
[09:04] <Amaranth> abhibera: Because you're using Ubuntu 7.04 (and beryl)
[09:04] <Amaranth> abhibera: This works fine in Ubuntu 7.10 with compiz
[09:04] <abhibera> Amaranth: yea
[09:05] <Zippy111> kk, will do that thanks for your advice, just out of curiosity, should i remove ubuntu now or when i download the iso will it remove it for me?
[09:05] <Amaranth> Zippy111: the installer can wipe your current install
[09:05] <abhibera> Amaranth: but it worked well on EDGY
[09:05] <Zippy111> excellent advice
[09:05] <Amaranth> Zippy111: or you can do an upgrade but it sounds like you've messed up your system
[09:05] <Amaranth> abhibera: With a hacked package
[09:05] <Zippy111> i'll take the new install :D
[09:05] <abhibera> Amaranth: and also it was working on Fiesty
[09:05] <Jordan_U_> !beryl | abhibera
[09:05] <ubotu> abhibera: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[09:05] <Amaranth> abhibera: The proper solution is to use Ubuntu 7.10 and compiz (beryl is dead)
[09:06] <starwolf> anyone ever get an ati x1600 series card to work 3d yet ?
[09:06] <abhibera> Jordan_U: how can i get compiz fusion on feisty?
[09:06] <Amaranth> starwolf: Sure, using fglrx
[09:06] <towlie_> erUSUL, im getting this error now: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:06] <Zippy111> right got to go, late for dr appointment, should be back on later using my ubuntu system if all goes well, thanks a lot and bye!
[09:06] <Amaranth> abhibera: You really shouldn't, upgrade to gutsy
[09:06] <abhibera> Amaranth: ok
[09:06] <starwolf> not for me kils system everytime i load teh driver
[09:06] <diogofsr> Amaranth: Dead it is such a hard word. I would say discontinued...
[09:07] <akatsuki> hello anyone know if ubuntu works with fluxbox?
[09:07] <Amaranth> abhibera: We've done a lot of work to integrate compiz in 7.10, it's even enabled by default
[09:07] <Amaranth> akatsuki: You can run fluxbox in ubuntu, sure
[09:07] <akatsuki> ok thanks
[09:07] <Amaranth> diogofsr: It's gone, completely
[09:07] <abhibera> Amaranth: works on 950 GMA?
[09:07] <akatsuki> do you use it amaranth?
[09:07] <akatsuki> fluxbox?
[09:07] <Okona> hi
[09:07] <Amaranth> akatsuki: No, I use compiz
[09:07] <jurik> hi...............
[09:07] <starwolf> sadly the accelerated driver locks up the system
[09:07] <Amaranth> abhibera: It should work just fine
[09:07] <diogofsr> Amaranth: It is not "gone". I can still download it, compile, use, fork and etc...
[09:07] <abhibera> ok
[09:08] <ere4si> domor: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#NVidia_Driver will sort you out for the video card
[09:08] <user11_011> I am on GUTSY guys
[09:08] <Amaranth> abhibera: With working Xv video playback too :)
[09:08] <user11_011> :-)
[09:08] <akatsuki> amaranth.. compiz is just an accelerator is not actually you can use it in kde, gnome, fluxbox, etc
[09:08] <akatsuki> maybe you dont know what is fluxbox?
[09:08] <bazhang> heh
[09:08] <user11_011> !gutsy
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[09:08] <Raspberry> anybody have any good sites / advice / help for setting up a Wireless 802.11g USB adapter?
[09:08] <diogofsr> Amaranth: But i know what you meant. Just been a little picking. ;-)
[09:08] <bazhang> akatsuki: you might also try fluxbuntu
[09:08] <starwolf> hehe I dont think an nvida driver will help an ATI card
[09:08] <Amaranth> akatsuki: No, compiz is a window manager. Fluxbox is also a window manager. KDE and GNOME are desktop environments. Generally a window manager plus a dock and libraries and such
[09:09] <greencookie> Raspberry: is it WG111v2 netgear adapter?
[09:09] <erUSUL> towlie_: do you have a /etc/fstab entry for the usb disks?
[09:09] <jurik> met sore..
[09:09] <bazhang> Raspberry: ubuntuforums.org
[09:09] <Raspberry> greencookie, yes
[09:09] <towlie_> erUSUL, nope
[09:09] <user11_011> for some reasons pidgin doesn't go as a icon on top panel and i have to retain it in bottom panel so as to be logged in. WHY?
[09:09] <Amaranth> akatsuki: You can use fluxbox in GNOME or KDE, for example
[09:09] <Raspberry> bazhang, been there -- nothing more recent than 2005
[09:09] <ere4si> !usb
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Amaranth> user11_011: Did you click on the icon on the top panel?
[09:09] <akatsuki> i see.. iw as wrong then.. i think fluxbox was a window manager haha
[09:10] <akatsuki> but fluxbox then would look exactly the same if you use it with kde or gnome?
[09:10] <Raspberry> whenever I try to configure it the whole system hangs and I have to hard reset it
[09:10] <jurik> akubtuh temen
[09:10] <Amaranth> akatsuki: Fluxbox is a window manager. GNOME and KDE are a bunch of stuff that goes on top of a window manager
[09:10] <akatsuki> thats weird because i hear that fluxbox would make the computer a bit faster since is veyr simple
[09:10] <domor> ere4si: ill havea  look
[09:10] <user11_011> Amaranth: i don't have any icon there. i customised and put a launcher icon there
[09:10] <ere4si> k
[09:10] <Raspberry> greencookie, I can see that's it's detected and running as wlan0
[09:10] <bazhang> Raspberry: realtek/ralink what chipset
[09:10] <Raspberry> yes
[09:11] <user11_011> Amaranth: when i launch it, in some machines a green button appears on top panel. i don't have it.
[09:11] <Raspberry> I looked it up in the ubuntu hardware support info -- and he's supposedly worked since Ubuntu 6
[09:11] <erUSUL> towlie_: !!?? im puzzled dunno what can be causing this... it seems that hald is generatin buggus mount points or something
[09:11] <Amaranth> user11_011: Make sure you have a notification area applet on your panel
[09:11] <Raspberry> I wouldn't think I'd need to install ndiswrapper anymore
[09:11] <Amaranth> akatsuki: Well, fluxbox is a very feature rich window manager so you can use it without GNOME or KDE
[09:12] <user11_011> Amaranth:how ?
[09:12] <Amaranth> akatsuki: metacity (GNOME wm), kwin (KDE wm), and compiz don't have a bunch of features so they aren't useful unless running with GNOME or KDE
[09:12] <akatsuki> ok but is going to be exactly the same.. whatever using fluxbox with kde or gnome?
[09:12] <Amaranth> akatsuki: You can use fluxbox without GNOME and KDE stuff
[09:12] <Amaranth> user11_011: Right click->Add to Panel
[09:13] <akatsuki> ok i understand
[09:13] <akatsuki> ubuntu is just gnome isnt?
[09:13] <Amaranth> Ubuntu uses GNOME, yes
[09:13] <TuxField> ubuntu is just gnome
[09:13] <StaRBuRNiNG> hai...
[09:13] <kiosk> hai......
[09:13] <Amaranth> TuxField: Not 'just', we add and change stuff
[09:13] <StaRBuRNiNG> do u wanna fuck with me?
[09:13] <Raspberry> this seems to be my issue and I've tried the suggested fixes -- but nothing has worked short of installing ndiswrapper
[09:13] <Raspberry> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/netgear-wg111-v2-sees-router-doesnt-connect-598609/#post2956655
[09:13] <jickles> does ubuntu come with any desktop search application?
[09:14] <Amaranth> jickles: Ubuntu 7.10 comes with tracker
[09:14] <TuxField> yeah, sorry, my english is bad
[09:14] <_ruben> crap .. forgot how to do output redirection when using sudo (and have the redirection done as user root) .. could someone refresh my memory?
[09:14] <Amaranth> jickles: Applications->Accessories->Tracker Search Tool
[09:14] <TuxField> there spanish here?
[09:14] <bazhang> !es
[09:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[09:14] <domor> ere4si: thats only got a little paragraph i just won;t be able to restart like last time
[09:14] <Amaranth> _ruben: Easier to run sudo -s and get a root shell first
[09:15] <akatsuki> Amaranth which is better and faster? KDE OR GNOME?
[09:15] <TuxField> there spanish here?
[09:15] <Amaranth> akatsuki: Dude, are you trying to start a war? :P
[09:15] <jickles> Amaranth, hmm it doesn't seem to be as good as google desktop on windows ^^
[09:15] <user11_011> Amaranth: thanks
[09:15] <jickles> it doesn't find my applications and it doesn find-as-I-type
[09:15] <akatsuki> no amaranth lol
[09:15] <Amaranth> akatsuki: That question has been asked since the dawn of time and the answer is "it depends"
[09:15] <_ruben> Amaranth: hmm .. even tho i'm used to use 'su -', i was hoping i could stick with a clean 'sudo' approach (i kinda like the logging of commands issued when using sudo)
[09:15] <akatsuki> it depends on what?
[09:15] <bazhang> TuxField: #ubuntu-es
[09:15] <neopsyche> amaranth: do you know how to properly install ffmpeg to do mp3?
[09:15] <Amaranth> akatsuki: What you like
[09:16] <bazhang> it depends, but kde :}
[09:16] <Amaranth> neopsyche: It'll do mp3 encode/decode by default
[09:16] <akatsuki> fast and good perfomance
[09:16] <Amaranth> bazhang: You're in the wrong channel :P
[09:16] <TuxField> yes, www.ubuntu-es.org, but i search irc spanish
[09:16] <akatsuki> thats what i like
[09:16] <akatsuki> and functionality
[09:16] <bazhang> Amaranth: hehe just kidding
[09:16] <Amaranth> akatsuki: If you prefer functionality above all else you'd probably like KDE
[09:16] <TuxField> ok, i look, thanks
[09:17] <neopsyche> amaranth.. I need to use ffmpeg for flv.. but on feisty ffmpeg doesnt come with decoding .. as far as i know.. .. i just installed gutsy two days ago.. is mp3 now open in gutsy?
[09:17] <Amaranth> akatsuki: But this is a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <Amaranth> neopsyche: Since ffmpeg is not installed by default it can do mp3
[09:17] <_ruben> Amaranth: but i thought was a (perhaps a bit tricky) way to have 'proper' output redirection when using sudo?
[09:17] <neopsyche> hmmm
[09:17] <erUSUL> Amaranth: "since the dawn of time" i remember quite well when neither kde or gnome existed in a usable form... (RedHat 5 with fvwm95 anyone?)
[09:17] <neopsyche> amaranth.. do i need to compile it?
[09:17] <ere4si> !nvidia | domor
[09:17] <ubotu> domor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <neopsyche> amaranth: is there a .deb file?
[09:17] <Amaranth> _ruben: sudo sh -c 'foo > file'
[09:18] <Amaranth> !info ffmpeg | neopsyche
[09:18] <_ruben> Amaranth: ah right, that was the trick
[09:18] <ubotu> neopsyche: ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 184 kB, installed size 652 kB
[09:18] <Amaranth> neopsyche: it's in universe
[09:18] <neopsyche> amaranth: i installed from universe on feisty and mp3 is disabled because of proprietary issues?
[09:19] <towlie_> erUSUL, can i pm you
[09:19] <Amaranth> neopsyche: Have you tried it?
[09:19] <erUSUL> towlie_: yes, but...
[09:19] <domor> ere4si: should i try envy
[09:19] <Amaranth> neopsyche: ffmpeg is not a video player, it's for video/audio conversion
[09:19] <erUSUL> |pm | towlie_
[09:19] <VSpike> If I want to enable SSL on some server programs like SMTP & IMAP, and my machine is on a NAT network and therefore can appear to have two hostnames, do I need to create two certificates, or can a cert have aliases in it?
[09:19] <NObIASS> laaaa
[09:19] <NObIASS> olaaa
[09:19] <NObIASS> olaaaaaa
[09:19] <ere4si> !envy | domor
[09:19] <ubotu> domor: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:19] <Drule> http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37686/dark%20link.PNG
[09:20] <bluetoothmac> hey, im trying to configure a file, says i dont have permission..... how do i get permission.
[09:20] <erUSUL> !pm | towlie_
[09:20] <ubotu> towlie_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[09:20] <towlie_> i have
[09:20] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: what file?
[09:20] <neopsyche> amaranth: yes i know, yes i have tried it, yes i need it for converting mpeg and other formats to flv but need the mp3 feature to be able to convert mp4 video with mp3 and other formats of audio to flv also.
[09:20] <erUSUL> towlie_: are you registered on freenode? you need to in order to be able to pm people
[09:20] <Amaranth> neopsyche: ah, your problem is aac then, not mp3
[09:21] <Amaranth> neopsyche: it doesn't do aac (mp4)
[09:21] <bluetoothmac> erUSUL xorg.conf
[09:21] <Raspberry> hmm
[09:21] <Amaranth> neopsyche: you have to compile your own or use the medibuntu version
[09:21] <bluetoothmac> touchpad for the macbook
[09:21] <Amaranth> !medibuntu
[09:21] <Raspberry> how can ig et the prism54 usb wireless adapter working with Ubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:21] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: use 'gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:21] <neopsyche> amaranth: how do i install medibuntu version?
[09:21] <Amaranth> !medibuntu | neopsyche
[09:21] <ubotu> neopsyche: please see above
[09:21] <bluetoothmac> k...
[09:21] <neopsyche> amaranth.. how can i disable part/join messages in pidgin?
[09:21] <Amaranth> neopsyche: you can't, install xchat :)
[09:22] <MrPocknix> how do i update firefox?
[09:22] <VSpike> is there an openssl channel anywhere? Google just picks up stuff about irc over ssl
[09:22] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: you have the most up-to-date version already
[09:22] <neopsyche> Amaranth: xchat doesnt have the auto password feature does it?
[09:22] <Amaranth> VSpike: what are you trying to do?
[09:22] <MrPocknix> Amaranth, do i?
[09:22] <Amaranth> neopsyche: xchat is only for IRC, there is no password
[09:22] <cox> is any tramission over openssh-server connect secure?
[09:22] <MrPocknix> i've got 1.0.2
[09:22] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: The most up-to-date one you can use, yes
[09:22] <Amaranth> cox: 99% of the time, yes
[09:23] <MrPocknix> POF!
[09:23] <neopsyche> also.. i cant press tab to auto insert name of last user spoken to.. like on chatzilla... but chatzilla isnt external or modifyable as xchat
[09:23] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: Then you need to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu
[09:23] <cox> Amaranth: basically, just want to know as i use ssh from work
[09:23] <VSpike> Amaranth: I want have my imap and smtp using ssl.  Actually, they do but more by luck than judgement.  But I get errors about untrusted certs and hostname mismatch everytime, so wanted to correct it...
[09:23] <Amaranth> neopsyche: xchat can also do that
[09:23] <Amaranth> neopsyche: pidgin is just a horrible IRC client
[09:23] <neopsyche> amaranth: i am referring to the pwd i use on freenode
[09:23] <zmotok> hey guys, any idea why an ubuntu 7.10 doesn't show the boot progress on an nforce430 with geforce6100 integrated graphics?
[09:23] <neopsyche> ok.
[09:23] <Amaranth> neopsyche: ah, it can do that automatically for you then
[09:23] <dick> Ich habe eine Frage.Wie kann ich meine Laufwerk in programm finden?
[09:23] <neopsyche> amaranth.. how do i enable xchat tab button for auto complete name?
[09:24] <Amaranth> neopsyche: just hit tab
[09:24] <Amaranth> !de | dick
[09:24] <ubotu> dick: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:24] <VSpike> Amaranth: Sometimes the machine name will be "liberator" from local DNS, but externally it will have a domain name "carlyleclarke.plus.com".  I'm wondering if a cert can have name aliases, or if I need to create two certs?
[09:24] <neopsyche> amaranth: diddnt work last time i tried.
[09:24] <neopsyche> amaranth: how can i enable medibuntu repo for gutsy?
[09:24] <Amaranth> VSpike: You're talking over my head, sorry
[09:25] <Amaranth> neopsyche: I don't think they have a gutsy repo yet, actually
[09:25] <bazhang> neopsyche: did you visit the link? it is quite easy to do
[09:25] <neopsyche> amaranth: what should i use then?
[09:25] <neopsyche> bazhang: what link?
[09:25] <Amaranth> neopsyche: ah, looks like they do
[09:25] <VSpike> neopsyche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:25] <neopsyche> cool
[09:25] <BaD-Laptop> medibuntu does have a gutsy repo
[09:25] <neopsyche> ;-)
[09:25] <Amaranth> neopsyche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:25] <zimnyx> How can i predownload packages before upgrade to 7.10 ?
[09:25] <bazhang> medibuntu.org
[09:26] <zimnyx> apt-get -d -t gutsy dist-upgrade ?
[09:26] <erUSUL> zimnyx: all packages?
[09:26] <MrPocknix> can someone recomend a theme that *is* compatable with our firefox browser?
[09:26] <Amaranth> zimnyx: predownload what packages?
[09:26] <zimnyx> erUSUL: all that would be upgraded
[09:26] <bluetoothmac> what does it mean when the instructions says "Restart X..." X being the computer? what does the variable represent?
[09:26] <BaD-Laptop> or at least when i changed 'feisty' to 'gutsy' in my /etc/apt/sources.list for medibuntu.org, it works great
[09:26] <dick> Ich habe keine nglischkäntnisse leider.
[09:26] <Amaranth> zimnyx: it downloads all the packages
[09:26] <Amaranth> bluetoothmac: X is the display server, what draws graphics on your screen
[09:27] <bazhang> dick this is an English language channel
[09:27] <Amaranth> bluetoothmac: to restart it logout then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[09:27] <bluetoothmac> so just ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:27] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: no X is the graphical system the one you configure with *X* org.conf
[09:27] <bluetoothmac> k cool!
[09:27] <neopsyche> ok.. so this: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list adds it to my repos in synaptic?
[09:27] <bluetoothmac> fun learning this new platform
[09:27] <zimnyx> Amaranth:  I'm running feisty, and want to upgrade to gutsy, but I want to predownload pacakges on fast connection, and upgrade on slow connection in home.
[09:27] <bazhang> neopsyche: yes
[09:27] <Amaranth> neopsyche: you're missing the |
[09:27] <neopsyche> thanks
[09:27] <neopsyche> oh
[09:27] <Amaranth> neopsyche: just copy and paste directly, don't try to type it
[09:27] <neopsyche> seems to have worked though .. spat out this.. 11:26:54 (24.32 MB/s) - `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list' saved [223/223]
[09:28] <Amaranth> neopsyche: oh, wait, my bad, there is no |
[09:28] <Amaranth> neopsyche: ignore me, it's 3:30am :P
[09:28] <neopsyche> :-D
[09:28] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: to restart X just so Crtl+ALt+backspace
[09:28] <dick> Ich bin nur seit ein Parr Tagen als Linux Anwender.
[09:28] <bluetoothmac> yeah, gotcha
[09:28] <bluetoothmac> thanks, erUSUL
[09:28] <Amaranth> neopsyche: now open synaptic, hit the refresh button, and install/upgrade ffmpeg
[09:28] <user11_011> zimnyx: download iso image and install with option to keep existing dat
[09:29] <user11_011> data*
[09:29] <Amaranth> zimnyx: download the 'alternate' install CD
[09:29] <zimnyx> OK guys
[09:29] <neopsyche> amaranth: how does it know whether to install the restricted version of ffmpeg or the gutsy official version?
[09:29] <Amaranth> zimnyx: You can use it to do an upgrade although it only upgrades sutff in the default install, not extra packages you've installed
[09:29] <zimnyx> Amaranth: that's what i want!
[09:29] <bazhang> dick: type /join #ubuntu-de
[09:29] <Amaranth> neopsyche: the medibuntu version will have a higher version number
[09:29] <neopsyche> ok.
[09:29] <neopsyche> ;-)
[09:30] <neopsyche> amaranth: theres only one listing of ffmpeg?
[09:30] <zimnyx> Amaranth: why alternate? is it special for upgrading ?
[09:30] <Amaranth> neopsyche: that's because it's the latest one :P
[09:31] <Amaranth> neopsyche: it only shows one but it'll be the medibuntu one
[09:31] <neopsyche> amaranth: ok thanks :-)
[09:31] <MrPocknix> whats the command for installing firefox?
[09:31] <MrPocknix> installing XMMS *
[09:31] <Amaranth> zimnyx: yes, the alternate cd is used for upgrades and text-mode installs
[09:31] <Amaranth> zimnyx: the 'desktop' cd cannot do upgrades, only fresh installs
[09:32] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: install the xmms package in synaptic
[09:32] <MrPocknix> Amaranth,  come again?
[09:32] <neopsyche> amaranth: have you ever used winff?
[09:32] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[09:32] <Amaranth> neopsyche: nope
[09:33] <BaD-Laptop> yeah
[09:33] <bluetoothmac> the synaptics touch pad config worked for the twofinger scroll but not the tapping two finger right click
[09:33] <neopsyche> amaranth: can you verify that this is in fact good information for securing gutsy ? http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[09:33] <Amaranth> bluetoothmac: that almost never works except on macbooks
[09:33] <bluetoothmac> im on a mack book Amaranth.
[09:33] <domor> ere4si: im trying envy i read a forums on it
[09:34] <bluetoothmac> macbook* i coppied the code, just doesnt work.
[09:34] <Amaranth> neopsyche: none of that is needed
[09:34] <domor> anyone use envy here?
[09:34] <neopsyche> amaranth: how so?
[09:34] <MrPocknix> Amaranth,  i dont see it in there..
[09:34] <bazhang> domor not needed nor supported
[09:34] <bluetoothmac> nevermind i think ill just put the lower right enter as right click
[09:35] <erUSUL> zimnyx: the alternate cd can act as repository (it comes with the deb files) the livecd comes with the apps already instaled it can not act as a repo
[09:35] <nucco> has anybody printed something out of evince lately?
[09:35] <Amaranth> neopsyche: we don't even have a root account by default, don't install an ssh server by default anyway, you can't use su without root, sudo access is restricted, security updates are enabled by default, the memory thing is just crack, and you'd only need to secure your home dir if you're worried about other users on your system
[09:35] <MinusSeven> Ubuntu is going well
[09:35] <MinusSeven> i worked out the nvidia issue
[09:35] <domor> bazhang what you mean
[09:35] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: you probably don't have universe enabled
[09:35] <zimnyx> erUSUL: i see. thanks
[09:35] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: Are you using Ubuntu 6.06?
[09:36] <magichere> How to build a live CD
[09:36] <MrPocknix> hell if i know
[09:36] <neopsyche> amaranth: so in other words.. that info is only for hyper paranoid sys admins looking after the banking cartel servers ? :-)
[09:36] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: It sounds like it
[09:36] <MrPocknix> how can i tell?
[09:36] <MrPocknix> the disk is a few years old
[09:36] <MrPocknix> but i just installed it tonight
[09:36] <Amaranth> neopsyche: And even then all but two things are not needed
[09:37] <kane77> what is the command to find speed of usb stick?
[09:37] <boolat> ubuntu fr ?
[09:37] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: You have Ubuntu 5.10
[09:37] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: That's two years old, you should download the latest version and install it
[09:37] <bazhang> !fr | boolat
[09:37] <ubotu> boolat: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:37] <domor> how can i tell if my video card installed
[09:37] <domor> envy termnial going hard
[09:38] <MrPocknix> Amaranth,  can i just update it?
[09:38] <erUSUL> kane77: if it's a disk you can use hdparm
[09:38] <Amaranth> kane77: sudo hdparm -t /dev/sd<whatever the stick is>
[09:38] <kane77> MrPocknix, you can, but only one version at a time... so it'd be better to reinstgall
[09:38] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: From that old of an install it would take probably 2 days to upgrade
[09:38] <MrPocknix> pah
[09:38] <magichere>  /join #elisa
[09:38] <MrPocknix> no biggie
[09:38] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: It'd be faster to download and install the new version
[09:38] <MrPocknix> CAn i still download XMMS?
[09:39] <MrPocknix> i'll probably reinstall in the morning
[09:39] <Amaranth> MrPocknix: Sure but the version of Ubuntu you're using has no support of any kind and does not even get security fixes
[09:39] <Amaranth> !universe | MrPocknix
[09:39] <ubotu> MrPocknix: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:39] <MrPocknix> no biggie
[09:40] <erUSUL> !envy | domor
[09:40] <ubotu> domor: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:41] <bluetoothmac> is there a default hotkey to launch terminal?
[09:41] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: System>Preferences>key...
[09:42] <ere4si> !terminal
[09:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:42] <bazhang> alt-f4 doesnt do it in ubuntu?
[09:43] <ere4si> ctrl-alt-F2 to 6 alt-F7 to get back
[09:44] <bazhang> cheers
[09:46] <MinusSeven> Does Ubuntu have a firewall built in?
[09:47] <bazhang> gui or iptables?
[09:47] <MinusSeven> either, one thats automatically running from install?
[09:47] <MinusSeven> i just installed ubuntu a couple hours ago
[09:48] <ere4si> !firewall
[09:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:48] <bazhang> i dont believe so--guarddog and firestarter are two names--can't remember which is gnome though
[09:48] <bazhang> oops
[09:49] <MinusSeven> i'll work on it tomorrow
[09:57] <sayanora818181> Really quick question
[09:57] <sayanora818181> I am at the partition menu. This is what it shows:
[09:57] <Ubuntu_Rocks> Hurry.
[09:58] <HackXP> lol
[09:58] <sayanora818181> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8600/screenshotlp4.png
[09:58] <sayanora818181> Is the one that is highlighted the empty drive?
[09:58] <grindcore_> i try to install ubuntu 7.10 i386 and after install - if i have turn on my broadcom wireless card - is showing errors and dont start and if i turn off just stop and boot sectors ? i have AMD 64 tl-60, 2gb ram, ati radeon xpress 1250. can somebody help me please ?
[09:59] <sayanora818181> I want to make sure not to damage vista
[10:00] <ere4si> !amd
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <pihus> Hi! Is it just me or Flash isn't supported in Firefox3+Linux?
[10:00] <bazhang> sayanora818181: you want to dual boot with vista and ubuntu?
[10:00] <sayanora818181> Yup
[10:00] <MinusSeven> Is VirtualBox anygood, and is it hard to set up?
[10:00] <sayanora818181> As you can see Vista is ona  completely different drive
[10:00] <neopsyche> amaranth: what can i use for converting mp4 to flv? the sound isnt working on ffmpeg?
[10:01] <sayanora818181> I am wanting to install Ubuntu on another drive that I wiped clean (format)
[10:01] <bazhang> sayanora818181: and you are using the resize in installer?
[10:01] <Amaranth> neopsyche: I have no idea
[10:01] <sayanora818181> What do you mean?
[10:01] <bazhang> sayanora818181: both ubuntu and vista on same hard drive?
[10:01] <erUSUL> neopsyche: maybe mencoder?
[10:01] <sayanora818181> Nope
[10:01] <neopsyche> amaranth: ok
[10:01] <neopsyche> erUSUL: you think so? Hmm.. mencoder have gui?
[10:01] <sayanora818181> The 3 disks in the screenshot are completely different drive
[10:02] <ere4si> pihus: flash is a plugin you install - in bookmarks is a link to customize firefox - click that then on that site click plugins then adobe flash
[10:02] <erUSUL> neopsyche: nope it is command line like ffmpeg
[10:02] <sayanora818181> If you missed it here it is again :) http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8600/screenshotlp4.png
[10:02] <bazhang> ubuntu is the internal drive?
[10:02] <grindcore_> can someone help me with this boot problem after install of ubuntu ? thank you
[10:02] <sayanora818181> Pardon...?
[10:02] <pihus> ere4si, so I have to install it again although flash works on Firefox2?
[10:03] <Jordan_U_> bluetoothmac, Still trying to get your synaptics touch pad working?
[10:03] <sayanora818181> Well actually my question is just that, does "unknown" under the "Used" section mean the drive is vacant?
[10:03] <ere4si> pihus: thought you said firefox wasn't supporting flash at your end?
[10:04] <bluetoothmac> yes and no Jordan_U it works, jsut not all the features it said. said it had 2finger right click. it lied... :( i gave up, trying to get irssi, PM me if you would like to help with either.
[10:04] <pihus> ere4si, my problem is that i installed FF3 and it doesn't show flash at all. At the sime time FF2 shows flash very well
[10:04] <akatsuki> hello
[10:04] <akatsuki> any support for wifi in ubuntu?
[10:04] <akatsuki> i need a guide please
[10:04] <sayanora818181> :s
[10:05] <bazhang> !wireless
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <ere4si> pihus: It wasn't an update to ff2? - then yeh , you need to reinstall flash for it
[10:05] <pihus> k tnx
[10:05] <sayanora818181> bazhang: Do you know?
[10:06] <bazhang> sayanora818181: vista is on external ubuntu to install on internal or external?
[10:07] <MinusSeven> With VirtualBox, can I run for example mIRC with it, and still access the linux desktop?
[10:07] <sayanora818181> All 3 hard drives are internal, inside the computer
[10:07] <Abu-Aadam> akatsuki: theres great wifi supportin ubuntu, you don't have to edit any text files even
[10:07] <Abu-Aadam> akatsuki: and no need to install any firmware
[10:07] <sayanora818181> But, does "unknown" mean the drive is empty of data?
[10:07] <bazhang> sayanora818181: and you know which one is the vista drive?
[10:07] <akatsuki> is not supporting mine
[10:07] <akatsuki> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[10:07] <akatsuki> this is mine
[10:08] <sayanora818181> I know it is likely the one on the top there
[10:08] <bazhang> sayanora818181: all backed up ie your important data?
[10:08] <spiderfire> whats a python C api mismatch mean?
[10:08] <sayanora818181> Yes to the drive on the bottom
[10:08] <sayanora818181> I want to install ubuntu on a drive I reformatted to make blank
[10:09] <sayanora818181> I think it is the center one
[10:09] <yofuse> fuuuu
[10:09] <Damjan> Hi, Gutsy Gibbon just arrived at my mailbox, I was wondering if can update my Feisty with the cd?
[10:09] <mavi-> sure
[10:09] <yofuse> hallo?
[10:09] <yofuse> i have big problems with ndiswrapper...
[10:09] <sayanora818181> Oh yes, I think the top one is vista, since it uses a little over 70GB...
[10:10] <sayanora818181> But just to be absolutely sure, does "Unknown" mean the drive is empty?
[10:10] <bazhang> sayanora818181: are you certain? I'd hate to give you info based on uncertainty
[10:10] <sayanora818181> Go ahead and give me some info
[10:10] <Damjan> Anybody can help me?
[10:11] <buttercups> Damjan, you can upgrade only with the alternate cd, not live cd
[10:11] <yofuse> i have Atlanti usb adaptr... but work only with win driver. I have to try with ndiswrapper but don't work :-( Did "invalid driver"
[10:11] <sayanora818181> But uh, what happens after you select "Edit partition"?
[10:11] <ere4si> Damjan: yes - most times when you put a newer version cd in the OS qwill ask if you want to use it as a source
[10:12] <ere4si> *will
[10:12] <yofuse> puttana troia.....  c'e' nessunitaliano qui?
[10:12] <Damjan> ere4si: Do it going to upgrade to Gutsy?
[10:12] <sayanora818181> Does it do something to the drive instantly, or does it just bring up a menu of options
[10:12] <buttercups> ere4si, you cannot update feisty with a gutsy live cd
[10:13] <Damjan> What if I mount the squash image from the cd?
[10:13] <bluetoothmac> can you change copy paste shortcuts?
[10:13] <ere4si> Damjan: buttercups thinks not
[10:13] <bluetoothmac> sorry i should google before i come and ask here.
[10:13] <olskolirc> I have Gutsy.  Can someone help me get beryl on this thing?
[10:13] <sayanora818181> :/
[10:13] <bluetoothmac> http://google.com/linux is more helpfull?
[10:14] <bazhang> sayanora818181: does the installer do something? It can sense another install if that is your question--the chances of *ruining* your vista install are negligible but again this is not guaranteed thus the need to back up
[10:15] <Paradoxie> Hello, everybody!
[10:15] <sayanora818181> Hi
[10:15] <sayanora818181> What's the best file system for Ubuntu?
[10:15] <bazhang> bluetoothmac: not really--I found regular google to be more helpful
[10:15] <ere4si> Damjan: can't you upgrade over the net?
[10:15] <Abu-Aadam> sayanora818181: probably ext3
[10:16] <bluetoothmac> k thanks bazhang
[10:16] <sayanora818181> Abu, will ext3 still work with Windows?
[10:16] <sayanora818181> As in I can look at it
[10:16] <Abu-Aadam> sayanora818181: no
[10:16] <sayanora818181> Or it will work with Grub or whatever
[10:16] <Abu-Aadam> sayanora818181: grub should let you boot windows + ubuntu
[10:16] <cool_> i tried this http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/convert-avi-to-3gp-using-ffmpeg/
[10:16] <sayanora818181> Awesome
[10:16] <sayanora818181> ext3 it is :D
[10:17] <cool_> but geta  error
[10:17] <Abu-Aadam> sayanora818181: i'm using UFS myself with freebsd kernel and gentoo portage
[10:17] <ere4si> cool_: there is #ffmpeg
[10:17] <Damjan> ere4si: I can, but I wan't to try different, for the future, cause someday I will not have internet connection, get it?
[10:17] <sayanora818181> Oh abu, does "unknown" under the "Used" area in the prepare partitions menu mean the drive is empty of data?
[10:18] <ere4si> Damjan: I get it
[10:18] <sayanora818181> I hope so
[10:18] <ere4si> !upgrade | Damjan
[10:18] <ubotu> Damjan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:18] <Paradoxie> I have a problem with SCIM.I have installed it. But nothing happened.
[10:19] <steven_> Hi
[10:19] <neopsyche> ok .. problems still converting to flv with ffmpeg.. no sound??
[10:19] <neopsyche> Or is that just because its not finnished converting?
[10:19] <sayanora818181> :S
[10:19] <steven_> trying to use grep with a perl regexp and it complains that -P is not a supported option ??
[10:19] <neopsyche> also... is there auto error correction on ffmpeg?
[10:19] <Damjan> ere4si: I konw how to upgrade the distro
[10:19] <steven_> it is listed in the man page
[10:19] <Paradoxie> I can still only use the German keys, no English, no Chinese, no nothing
[10:20] <sayanora818181> I really need to know if "unknown" means the drive is empty
[10:20] <ere4si> Damjan: thought there would be alternative ways to upgrade there :)
[10:20] <Damjan> yes
[10:20] <Damjan> ere4si: why my Ubuntu is freezing from time to time, when I open sudo programs
[10:21] <Damjan> The hdd is going wild
[10:21] <sayanora818181> IS this true? I really want to start working with Ubuntu
[10:21] <Damjan> no
[10:21] <sayanora818181> Huh?
[10:21] <Damjan> After 1 milion packages
[10:22] <Paradoxie> what is wrong with SCIM.
[10:22] <ere4si> Damjan: once a month approx in feisty firefox and thunderbird and sudo freeze on me - I reboot and they work again - annoying it is but!
[10:23] <Damjan> ere4si: Can u fix my Ubuntu with vnc?
[10:23] <sayanora818181> Argh!
[10:24] <ere4si> Damjan: try a reboot - to fix your system from here would take a long time
[10:24] <Damjan> no, doing it every time
[10:24] <Damjan> it + doing
[10:24] <phd_r33T> ??
[10:24] <sayanora818181> Hello?
[10:24] <lietu> is there a package that I need to install to get a working compiling environment? trying to compile ktail and it says "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables."
[10:24] <erUSUL> lietu: build-essential
[10:25] <sayanora818181> Please help me :(
[10:25] <lietu> ah, that was it, I was trying to apt-cache search for "compile" etc ;)
[10:25] <lietu> thanks erUSUL
[10:25] <Damjan> Who can fix my Ubuntu please?
[10:25] <lietu> sayanora818181: state a question and you might get help, tho I dont know if you said what the problem is earlier, I just joined myself
[10:25] <ere4si> Damjan: do you - sometimes - get a message at boot that the system has been mounted 28 times and a file system check will happen?
[10:25] <Damjan> yes
[10:26] <sayanora818181> Lietu, I need to know if unknown means the drive is empty
[10:26] <che_frisco> oh my god, did anybody know that rake was case sensitive?
[10:26] <ere4si> Damjan: is it better for a while after?
[10:26] <che_frisco> because I didn't
[10:26] <sayanora818181> Lietu: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8600/screenshotlp4.png
[10:26] <Damjan> ere4si: what?
[10:27] <bluetoothmac> trying to install irssi though it cant find the files from the sources.list heres my list, http://pastebin.ca/793512 any ideas...?
[10:27] <erUSUL> che_frisco: in unix/linux most (all) things are case sensitive
[10:27] <ere4si> Damjan: does it perform better after the file system check?
[10:27] <sayanora818181> Hello?
[10:27] <Damjan> ere4si: no
[10:27] <Damjan> it's the same
[10:28] <Damjan> ere4si: the mouse it's not moving and stuff like that
[10:28] <ere4si> Damjan: is your file system rieserfs or ext3?
[10:28] <che_frisco> yea, but for some reason I thought rails was different
[10:28] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: go to System>Admin>Software sources and enable multiverse and universe
[10:28] <sayanora818181> Hello?
[10:28] <erUSUL> !sources | bluetoothmac
[10:28] <ubotu> bluetoothmac: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:28] <Damjan> ere4si: ext3
[10:28] <erUSUL> !repeat | sayanora818181
[10:28] <ubotu> sayanora818181: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:28] <ere4si> Damjan: usb mouse?
[10:28] <Damjan> nope
[10:28] <Damjan> ps2
[10:28] <sayanora818181> That's not helpful :(
[10:29] <sayanora818181> I've already looked though those two sites and not found any answers for my dilemma
[10:29] <bluetoothmac> !sources
[10:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:29] <ere4si> Damjan: only advice I can give is that it is time for a reinstall :)
[10:30] <Damjan> ere4si: no thanks
[10:30] <ere4si> k
[10:30] <sayanora818181> I still cannot find an answer
[10:31] <Txukie1982> hi can someone give me some help installing a mumble server (murmur)??
[10:31] <erUSUL> sayanora818181: the truth is that for this kind of things guessing from a thousan km away what is the problem or the status or your harddrive is at least dangerous.
[10:31] <sayanora818181> No no no erUSUL
[10:31] <sayanora818181> I just need to know what "Unknown" in that picture means
[10:31] <Damjan> ere4si: can i control Ubuntu's package manager from another distro?
[10:32] <cox> Damjan: SSHserver?
[10:32] <Damjan> on my pc
[10:32] <docente> Hi!
[10:32] <ere4si> Damjan: never tried that - wouldn't think so...
[10:32] <bluetoothmac> erUSUL no im getting  "Package irssi is not available but is referred to by anothe rpackage. this may mean the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from anothe rsource. E: Package irssi has no installation candidate"
[10:32] <cox> Damjan: what do you mean?
[10:32] <sayanora818181> What does it mean?
[10:32] <docente> Can anyone help me about thin client and x11vnc configuration in edubuntu?
[10:32] <lietu> bluetoothmac: try irssi-text
[10:33] <Damjan> bluetoothmac: I just installe irssi few days ago on Ubuntu
[10:33] <bluetoothmac> Damjan anything special?
[10:33] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: did you enabled all the sources?
[10:33] <Damjan> apt-get install irssi
[10:33] <sayanora818181> All I am doing is spinning my wheels here
[10:33] <cox> bluetoothmac: not really but it's good for using over shh
[10:33] <bullgard4> My kernel command line lists the entry 'splash' I cannot find 'splash' in /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt. What is the purpose of 'splash' in the kernel command line?
[10:34] <bluetoothmac> erUSUL yes, universal and multiversal
[10:34] <sayanora818181> Grrrrrrr!
[10:34] <erUSUL> bluetoothmac: did you update?
[10:34] <bluetoothmac> yes...
[10:35] <bluetoothmac> there, i checked them all... looks like its working.
[10:35] <sayanora818181> Dangit, I'm leaving in 2 hours, and I want to get ubuntu installed! I don't have all day
[10:36] <bluetoothmac> Damjan PM?
[10:36] <void^> !usplash | bullgard4
[10:36] <ubotu> bullgard4: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:36] <Damjan> bluetoothmac:  PM what is means
[10:36] <tevfik> Hi all
[10:36] <sayanora818181> HELP!
[10:36] <bluetoothmac> Private msg?
[10:36] <Damjan> ok
[10:37] <sayanora818181> What does no root file system defined mean??!
[10:37] <tevfik> Banshee Music Player always crash.. How can i fix it?
[10:37] <cox> bluetoothmac: yeh as in a message outside of this main chat
[10:37] <Okona> I can observe some strange behavior on my maching: ubuntu freezes from time to time, sometimes just a split of a second, sometimes for minutes (the computer still responds to pings the whole time) i'm Using 7.10
[10:38] <bullgard4> void^: I do not want to add my custom artwork. I would like to know what the effect of 'splash' in the kernel command line is.
[10:38] <ere4si> istaller probs?
[10:38] <sayanora818181> What does it mean??
[10:38] <Damjan> hey bluetoothmac, let me first change my name, to reg. nick
[10:38] <Okona> this occurs both with the restricted graphics driver and the autodetected one
[10:38] <bluetoothmac> ok.
[10:38] <void^> bullgard4: it enables usplash.
[10:38] <bluetoothmac> let me know.
[10:38] <ArabEyes> sayanora818181 , if u r going 2 install ubuntu  manaulaay , u have to define a root partition
[10:38] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: are you trying to install (k)ubuntu?
[10:38] <sayanora818181> Ubuntu
[10:39] <bullgard4> void^: Ah! Thank you.
[10:39] <sayanora818181> er nvm
[10:39] <ArabEyes> sayanora818181 , * manually
[10:39] <sayanora818181> How do I make swap space??
[10:39] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: you're trying the manual partitioning, i see
[10:39] <sayanora818181> How do I make swap space
[10:40] <cool> sayanora818181: use gparted
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: let's start at the top. what does your disk look like atm?
[10:40] <sayanora818181> No, I'm installing ubuntu
[10:40] <kilo_> HI everyone! Can someone please explain me how to mount a disk automatically when gutsy starts?
[10:40] <sayanora818181> howling! http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8600/screenshotlp4.png
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> kilo_: add it to your /etc/fstab
[10:40] <ere4si> make a partition the size of your memory and select file type - swap
[10:40] <cool> kilo_: put it in your fstab file
[10:40] <sayanora818181> I'm not using gparted I'm installing ubuntu
[10:41] <kilo_> howlingmadhowie: thanks you all! :D
[10:41] <ArabEyes> sayanora818181 , choose edit a partition , and then choose swap format
[10:41] <kilo_> I just loooooooove gutsy :)
[10:41] <ArabEyes> sayanora818181 , u have to change the filesystem format to ext3
[10:41] <sayanora818181> All I have is an empty hard disk
[10:41] <cool> sayanora818181: so you wanna create from free scape or a existing partion?
[10:41] <sayanora818181> Arab it IS ext3
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: are those really 2 500GB disks and 1 750? or do my old eyes deceive me?
[10:42] <grindcore_> can anyone help me to fix problem with start ubuntu after install - i cannot go more then boot sector and then stop :( please help me
[10:42] <sayanora818181> Howling it's true
[10:42] <cool> sayanora818181: so your HDD is empty?
[10:42] <sayanora818181> The top one is vista
[10:42] <sayanora818181> The 2nd is empty
[10:42] <sayanora818181> The 3rd is backup
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: well, just use the second disk then.
[10:42] <sayanora818181> Yes
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: that's a lot of space
[10:42] <sayanora818181> Yup
[10:42] <sayanora818181> I edit video and audio
[10:42] <cool> sayanora818181: better install both oses on same hdd
[10:42] <cortes> h
[10:43] <sayanora818181> Cool, can't
[10:43] <Jordan_U_> grindcore_, Have you tried recovery mode? ( I assume you can get to the GRUB menu? )
[10:43] <cool> sayanora818181: and keep data on rest
[10:43] <ckn_2k2> :maemo
[10:43] <sayanora818181> Cool, I can't
[10:43] <cool> sayanora818181: now where are you stuck?
[10:43] <sayanora818181> But how do I partition that 2nd drive so it has 2 partitions, one for main data and one for swap
[10:43] <grindcore_> Jordan_U  I'm newbie in linux - how to do it ?
[10:44] <Jordan_U_> grindcore_, When you see "Grub" on the screen press escape
[10:44] <cool> sayanora818181: you don't need to worry about that, ubuntu will do automactically :)
[10:45] <ere4si> sayanora: let the install do that
[10:45] <sayanora818181> No it won;t
[10:45] <sayanora818181> I press forward and it gives me an error mesage
[10:45] <cool> sayanora818181: what error?
[10:45] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, What error?
[10:45] <kilo_> kk i am in fstab with "sudo gedit"... but it requires some parameters as i can see... how do i get the right ones for the partition I want to mount on boot?
[10:45] <sayanora818181> Hang on cool and jordan!
[10:45] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: have you tried clicking on "edit partition"?
[10:45] <jmspeex> Like many others, I've been noticing my HD going to sleep every few seconds when on battery. What's the best workaround for that problem?
[10:45] <ArabEyes> root error message !
[10:46] <GNU_D> bluetoothmac:  hey
[10:46] <sayanora818181> ERROR MESSAGE: http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3926/screenshotdoyouwanttoreip8.png
[10:46] <cox> jmspeex: isn't that a problem that was sorted with gutsy?
[10:46] <kilo_> qualche italiano in the room?
[10:46] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've got a couple boxes that just won't keep their wireless settings .. Every reboot I've got to run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart .. then it works fine .. help?
[10:46] <jmspeex> cox: I've running gusty, so no
[10:47] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, Have you in fact made a swap partition?
[10:47] <sayanora818181> Jordan, don't know how
[10:47] <kilo_> cool: i wuold need some infos about fstab please
[10:47] <sayanora818181> There is nothing in Edit partition that allows me to make another on the same drive
[10:47] <cool> sayanora818181: create a new partion about 1.5time your ram & mount is a /swap
[10:48] <sayanora818181> Cool: How?
[10:48] <supersamiec> czesc
[10:48] <supersamiec> jest ktos z polski ?
[10:48] <ere4si> !gparted
[10:48] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:48] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: i'd start be deleting the second partition
[10:48] <clarezoe> I can't play wma files with my audacious, anyone can help me?
[10:48] <cool> kilo_: hold on
[10:48] <supersamiec> halooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:48] <kilo_> cool: ok...
[10:48] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, I don't know how the installer interface works but I would assume you would resize another partition to make room, or just use Gparted which ( IMHO ) has a better interface
[10:48] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: it seems to think that your second harddrive is already configured with one partition on it
[10:48] <sayanora818181> howling: What second partition? This drive is new and fresh
[10:49] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: the installer has found a partition on it. maybe the factory put one on it
[10:49] <sayanora818181> Seagate?
[10:49] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: it may well be the case. click on "delete partition"
[10:49] <sayanora818181> What??1
[10:49] <sayanora818181> ok
[10:49] <adminuser> k
[10:49] <cool> kilo_: whats the partion type?
[10:49] <adminuser> hi
[10:49] <supersamiec> ej kurwa polacy gdzie jestescie bracia !
[10:49] <sayanora818181> But how will I work with the drive if it dissapears from the menu?
[10:49] <sayanora818181> Or will it?
[10:49] <kilo_> it's a fat32 partition
[10:50] <kilo_> cool: it a fat32 one
[10:50] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. Even though I've got the correct info in /etc/network/interfaces .. each reboot requires the restarting of my networking .. Is there a glitch workaround? A script I can build that runs each boot or something?
[10:50] <ubuntu> hi
[10:50] <kilo_> cool: on prop windows it says vfat filesystem type
[10:51] <cool> kilo_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Windows
[10:51] <sayanora818181> It worked, partiton has been deleted! Now what?
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: is there an option for creating new partitions?
[10:51] <sayanora818181> Yes
[10:52] <sayanora818181> What do I do in the new partition menu?
[10:52] <kilo_> cool: great! gonna check it out :P
[10:52] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: create 2 or 3 partitions. at the start of the disk, create a swap partition of about 1.5xRAM in size
[10:53] <sayanora818181> How? And my RAM is 4GB
[10:53] <cool> kilo_: its the older version of ubuntuguide, but its has more options than newer one
[10:53] <sayanriju> everybody: my RAM consumption is now back at NORMAL!
[10:53] <sayanriju> thanx  everybody
[10:53] <sayanriju> :)
[10:53] <clarezoe> I can't play wma files with my audacious, anyone can help me?
[10:53] <eric> 看看有没有人说中文。
[10:53] <clarezoe> 我说
[10:53] <eric> 太棒了！
[10:54] <eric> 方便 吗？
[10:54] <cool> eric: ?
[10:54] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: can you click somewhere to create a new partition?
[10:54] <sayanora818181> howling: So I create a 6MB partition?
[10:55] <clarezoe> 被人骂的要
[10:55] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: exactly :)
[10:55] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: then you should be able to set the type to swap
[10:55] <_Garbage_> I have a problem with nVidia Graphics/resolution. Can anyone help me ???
[10:55] <sayanora818181> 6MB? That's tiny. They're saying 256 MB!
[10:56] <sayanora818181> and this the options: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8561/screenshot1re7.png
[10:56] <NineTeen67Comet> Kanji is fun and all, but here in Okinawa we prefer Katakana .. ;)
[10:56] <aladinsano> i have a usb wlan nic which i got to work perfectly under xubuntu, however if i try to remove it from the usb slot while the computer is running xubuntu freezes, is there any way to do a safe removal like in windows?
[10:56] <cool> eric: 请使用英语
[10:56] <_Garbage_> I want help with nVidia graphics + Resolution
[10:57] <eric> ok.
[10:57] <eric> sorry.
[10:57] <cool> _Garbage_: noone will help you :p
[10:57]  * NineTeen67Comet polite people generally receive assistance sooner than those being rude ..
[10:57] <_Garbage_> why cool ?
[10:57] <sayanora818181> :S
[10:57] <_Garbage_> can I ask my question ?
[10:57] <cox> lol
[10:57] <cool> _Garbage_: i was joking
[10:58] <_Garbage_> cool cool !! :D
[10:58] <cool> hehe
[10:58] <NineTeen67Comet> _Garbage_: generally speaking, resolution is given out via the horz/vert resolution settings in your xorg.conf file .. You can't set it to an arbitrary setting like you can in MS OS ..
[10:58] <sayanora818181> Hello?
[10:58] <cool> sayanora818181: what happened?
[10:58] <_Garbage_> I have HP Laptop with nVidia GForce 7150
[10:59] <sayanora818181> How much of a swap partition should I make cool?
[10:59] <_Garbage_> I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on that
[10:59] <NineTeen67Comet> _Garbage_: should get something like 1280X800 on that I think ..
[10:59] <sayanora818181> I have 4GB of memory
[10:59]  * NineTeen67Comet if you've tossed the nvidia-glx-new driver on there..
[10:59] <_Garbage_> by default it took VESA
[10:59] <cool> sayanora818181: are you installing 64bit or 32bit version?
[10:59] <sayanora818181> How can I tell?
[10:59] <NineTeen67Comet> Did you let Synaptic install your nvidia driver?
[10:59] <_Garbage_> I installed nVidia latest drivers
[11:00]  * NineTeen67Comet or the restricted drivers utility?
[11:00] <cool> sayanora818181: from where you got cd?
[11:00] <sayanora818181> Online
[11:00] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, The conventional wisdom used to be 2X your RAM, but that is far from neccisary now, I'd go with 1 GIG, but the truth is that you will probably never even touch swap
[11:00] <_Garbage_> but now the problem is that, after installing latest drivers, I can't increase resolution more than 800x600 :(
[11:00] <cool> sayanora818181: you dowloaded it?
[11:00] <sayanora818181> yes
[11:00] <Niculittu> hello...i need help to set screen light on my acer aspire 9302...
[11:00] <cool> sayanora818181: then check the filename of iso
[11:00] <sayanora818181> from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:01] <NineTeen67Comet> _Garbage_: have you looked at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure it has nvidia instead of VESA or nv?
[11:01] <_Garbage_> it's nVidia there
[11:01] <ant748> good morning all, i have the latest ubuntu running on a d830, nvidia twinview with 2 desktops, all looks great apart from i have no window "borders" on the second display
[11:01] <NineTeen67Comet> Or pop open a term and type: sudo nvidia-settings
[11:01] <sayanora818181> 7.10 desktop edition, standard personal computer option
[11:01] <_Garbage_> I can use compiz-fusion too
[11:01] <cool> sayanora818181: 64bit will have a name like this ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:01] <sayanora818181> No
[11:01] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, Then you are using 32 bit
[11:01] <sayanora818181> I have the 32 bit version then I suppose
[11:01] <NineTeen67Comet> _Garbage_: give the nvidia-settings tool a shot .. it usually has some gui stuff you can play with ..
[11:02] <sayanora818181> SO what should the memory swap partition be (in size)?
[11:02] <cool> sayanora818181: use 64bit version
[11:02] <Thecks_> Quick somebody please, Compiz just crashed how can I restart it?
[11:02] <sayanora818181> Sayanara, no :|
[11:02] <Niculittu> can someone help me?
[11:02] <sayanora818181> *cool, no
[11:02] <Thecks_> I've got stuff open I need, and it's all messed up :s
[11:02] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, I'd say 256 Meg- 1 GIG, but it really doesn't matter much.
[11:02] <NielsE> I want to use another partition as a home directory, is changing the mountlocation in /etc/fstab enough?
[11:02] <cool> sayanora818181: 32bit can't map so much of memory, so some of your ram will get wasted
[11:02] <sayanora818181> I know
[11:02] <sayanora818181> Same with my 32 bit Vista
[11:03]  * Thecks_ has got it, no worries
[11:03] <cool> sayanora818181: in 32 you can install upto 3gb of ram
[11:03] <sayanora818181> NExt time will be 64 bit, but I have 32 now so let's work with 32 bit
[11:03] <cool> sayanora818181: ok
[11:03] <sayanora818181> :)
[11:03] <_Garbage_> I got !!! :)
[11:03] <NineTeen67Comet> _Garbage_: did the nvidia-settings hook you up?
[11:03] <_Garbage_> sudo nvidia-settings worked !!!
[11:04] <NineTeen67Comet> cool ..
[11:04] <_Garbage_> cool !!!
[11:04] <_Garbage_> but fonts are NOT looking cool :(
[11:04] <sayanora818181> So, a 1 GB memory swap partition?
[11:04] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: if you want support for more than 3 GB Ram on 32-bit linux, you have to compile the kernel yourself ( i think)
[11:04] <NineTeen67Comet> Once nvidia-settings came out my running multiple monitors became a lot less painful. . ;)
[11:04] <Jordan_U_> NielsE, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[11:04] <cool> sayanora818181: yes
[11:04] <sayanora818181> k
[11:04] <erudified> Does the livecd include restricted drivers now? i.e. will my wireless work?
[11:04] <Jordan_U_> erudified, Yes
[11:04] <cool> _Garbage_: what?
[11:04] <erudified> that owns faces.
[11:05] <sayanora818181> Should the partition be primary or logical?
[11:05] <_Garbage_> I got the solution COOL. So I said Koooool... ;)
[11:05] <sayanora818181> And should it be beginning or end?
[11:05] <NielsE> how do I retrieve the UUID from sda9?
[11:05] <sayanora818181> And what should the mount point be?
[11:05] <NineTeen67Comet> Has anyone got a suggestion to correct my failing wireless? Every reboot requires a little /etc/init.d/networking restart .. before I'm up again .. (On two Gutsy boxes)
[11:05] <cool> sayanora818181: primary so you can boot from it
[11:05] <sayanora818181> k
[11:05] <cool> sayanora818181: however swap can be logical
[11:05] <ere4si> primary   begginning   /
[11:06] <sayanora818181> This is swap
[11:06] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, doesn't matter, end, and there is no mount point for swap ( wait, are you still talking about swap ? )
[11:06] <sayanora818181> So set it to logical?
[11:06] <sayanora818181> Yes, swap
[11:06] <cool> sayanora818181: as you wish
[11:06] <sayanora818181> k
[11:06] <_Garbage_> thanks all....
[11:06] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: swap's probably better at the start of the drive, so that access times are less
[11:06] <frozeneskimo> roses are red, violets are blue, i think flash freezes up mozilla, what should i do!?
[11:06] <sayanora818181> k howling :)
[11:06] <cool> _Garbage_: so thats all for today?
[11:06] <NielsE> does anyone know how I get the uuid from my sda9 partition?
[11:07] <Jordan_U_> frozeneskimo, Complain to Adobe
[11:07] <cool> frozeneskimo: nice poem :;p
[11:07] <sayanora818181> It now has a swap partition. Now what?
[11:07] <frozeneskimo> cool, :)
[11:07] <erudified> Arrrrgh the Dell 1390 doesn't work in Linux
[11:07] <frozeneskimo> nah i'm sure it's a common problem, i'll just look it up
[11:07] <_Garbage_> nah cool
[11:07] <pihus> Does f-spot need some kind of ports to be opened in order to upload pics to picasa?
[11:07] <sayanora818181> Should next partition be Primary, at the end, ext3?
[11:07] <_Garbage_> I'm here
[11:08] <pihus> I'm asking because it's awfully slow
[11:08] <Jordan_U_> frozeneskimo, The flash plugin for Linux is just buggy, gnash might be a good alternative in the future but isn't really there yet
[11:08] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: now you have to decide on the rest of the partitions. i'd recommend one partition for the software and one partition for your files, so you can update the operating system at a later date
[11:08] <cool> ommand "vol_group" or "blkid" will show uuid.
[11:08] <frozeneskimo> Jordan_U, ah ok
[11:08] <ere4si> install the flash plugin frozeneskimo
[11:08] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: next partition primary, just after the swap partition and 40GB will be easily enough
[11:08] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: and make it ext3 :)
[11:08] <sayanora818181> k
[11:08] <sayanora818181> What about the 3rd partiton?
[11:09] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: the second partition mountpoint: /
[11:09] <cool> NielsE: command "vol_group" or "blkid" will show uuid.
[11:09] <erudified> Is 2.6.22 in the 7.10 install CDs?
[11:09] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: the third partition just takes the rest of the space and is probably best mounted at /home
[11:09] <Jordan_U_> erudified, Yes
[11:09] <sayanora818181> k
[11:09] <lietu> any idea why my firefox refuses to refresh pagest after x amount of "visits", as in, I open an url, hit refresh, it "thinks" it refreshes, but the content doesn't update, I click a link, url changes, content doesn't, this is with kubuntu and apt-get installed firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:10] <erudified> Jordan_U, you rock!
[11:10] <sayanora818181> There are no options for mount point!
[11:10] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, Make sure you have chosen a file system rather than swap
[11:10] <sayanora818181> It's ext3
[11:10] <cool> sayanora818181: check again properply, else you are looking in wrong place
[11:10] <NineTeen67Comet> back in a bit ..
[11:11] <domas> yay, filed my first ubuntu bug.
[11:11]  * NineTeen67Comet wonder if I'll have to restart my wireless when I finish updating the pathces .. sigh
[11:11] <domas> will see how long it will take to 'this is not a bug'
[11:11] <domas> :)
[11:11] <Jordan_U_> domas, What's the bug ? :)
[11:11] <domas> #164484
[11:12] <sayanora818181> It's not allowing me to select mounting point!!!!!
[11:12] <cool> !164484
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 164484 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <Jordan_U_> sayanora818181, Please post a screenshot
[11:12] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: for which partition?
[11:12] <sayanora818181> howling, any
[11:12] <sayanora818181> oh nvm
[11:12] <sayanora818181> Now it is :S
[11:12] <erudified> argh, bcm43xx supports my card but 7.10 doesn't out of the box =(
[11:13] <domas> Jordan_U_: had a very funny debugging session now - starting with appserver issuing 500's, finding misbehaving updatedb/find, mtab problems, locating source of mtab problems, ..
[11:13] <NielsE> how do I get the uuid from a partition?
[11:13] <domas> maybe should reproduce and file mtab bug too
[11:13] <buttercups> !uuid | NielsE
[11:13] <ubotu> NielsE: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:13] <cool> NielsE: But, it really isn't needed to add UUID, you can just use the device name. But, using UUID can actually be good sometimes.
[11:13] <cool> And, BTW you need blktool for blkid command
[11:14] <NielsE> ok thanks :)
[11:14] <sayanora818181> Alright...
[11:14] <sayanora818181> Here comes the final result... is this all done correct?
[11:14] <sayanora818181> http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4929/screenshot2fs4.png
[11:14] <Jordan_U_> erudified, All you need is the firmware ( which Ubuntu can't legally include by default )
[11:14] <erudified> Yeah - it's a shame, really
[11:15] <cool> sayanora818181: go ahead!
[11:15] <sayanora818181> Awesome!
[11:15] <sayanora818181> Here goes nutin'
[11:15] <howlingmadhowie> sayanora818181: i'm not sure about the order of the partitions on the drive. is the 40GB partition infront of the larger one?
[11:15] <Jordan_U_> erudified, The community goes and makes Drivers for Broadcom for free, and with no specs, and Broadcom won't even allow distribution of their firmware :(
[11:16] <DrJ> help, major issue here....I removed a disk from my PC and now I can't boot to windows or ubuntu ... grub error 21
[11:16] <sayanora818181> omg
[11:16] <sayanora818181> brb
[11:16] <Jordan_U_> erudified, There is a new fancy GUI for grabbing the firmware now at least
[11:16] <DrJ> can anyone help me with this
[11:16] <erudified> fwcutter, right?
[11:16] <Jordan_U_> erudified, Restricted Manager uses fwcutter
[11:17] <kilo_> cool: i've done what the site you gave me said...but nothing happens on reboot...
[11:18] <jgonzalez> hi there... is there any problem in removing metapackages like ubuntu-minimal or ubuntu-desktop? I'd like to install syslog-ng instead of sysklogd, and aptitude tells me it should remove ubunutu-minimal
[11:18] <sorcerer> hey ... iam new on irc i need to know how to get to a ps2 moding channel
[11:18] <sorcerer> how would i do that
[11:18] <Jordan_U_> erudified, When you boot there will be a message that proprietary drivers are needed for your hardware to work ( even though it's really just the firmware ) and Restricted Manager will offer to grab and extract the firmware for you automagically ( from the internet or from a local file )
[11:18] <sorcerer> i know its a irrlevant question
[11:18] <sorcerer> but
[11:18] <sorcerer> would like some help
[11:18] <cool> kilo_: post your fstab file
[11:19] <xen_> Hey there, im having a lil trouble getting gutsy to recognise my USB wireless adapter, could any please help, thanks
[11:19] <DrJ> help, major issue here....I removed a disk from my PC and now I can't boot to windows or ubuntu ... grub error 21
[11:19] <cool> kilo_: and output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:19] <erudified> that seems almost amazingly tolerable
[11:19] <Jordan_U_> DrJ, You tried putting the disk back?
[11:19] <cool> kilo_: brb
[11:19] <loguser1> how can i know what ports are forwarded by the router. (iam a client) cant reach server
[11:19] <DrJ> I can't do that Jordan_U
[11:20] <DrJ> I have ubuntu live cd (that I installed ubuntu 7.1 from) booted up right now
[11:20] <Jordan_U_> DrJ, you will need to boot a LiveCD and install grub to another partition then
[11:20] <Jordan_U_> !grub | DrJ
[11:20] <ubotu> DrJ: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:20] <kilo_> cool: here my fstab
[11:20] <kilo_> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[11:20] <kilo_> #
[11:20] <xen_> hey Jodan_U_
[11:20] <sayanara1818181> Oh my god
[11:21] <kilo_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[11:21] <Jordan_U_> !paste | kilo_
[11:21] <ubotu> kilo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:21] <kilo_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[11:21] <kilo_> # /dev/sda3
[11:21] <sayanara1818181> That gave me a heart attack :X
[11:21] <kilo_> UUID=98947faa-513e-4e1d-9b5d-a2584604b0c8 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:21] <kilo_> # /dev/sda7
[11:21] <kilo_> UUID=815b2029-c1b5-4f83-9fd2-a1910298d633 none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:21] <kilo_> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[11:21] <kilo_> #disco dati
[11:21] <kilo_> /dev/hda1    /media/kilomounted vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[11:21] <kilo_> ops sorry :
[11:21] <howlingmadhowie> sayanara1818181: what's happend?
[11:21] <xen_> Jordan_U_ sorry about loosing my cool earlier on today, its one of those days
[11:21] <kilo_> !paste
[11:21] <Rajec> Could anybody of you reccomend me some book about databases in general? I know basics and simple things about databases
[11:21] <sayanara1818181> I thought ubuntu had ereased my windows! But luckily no :)
[11:21] <xen_> Jordan_U_ didnt mean to bite your head of dude, sorry about that
[11:21] <kilo_> cool: how do i paste my fstab in here?
[11:21] <howlingmadhowie> sayanara1818181: why do you say "luckily"? :)
[11:21] <Sonderblade> sayanara1818181: you mean "sadly" no? :)
[11:21] <sayanara1818181> Awwwww :p
[11:22] <Abu-Aadam> can I get opinions in which ubuntu flavour would be best for a developer-ubuntu
[11:22] <Tomi_G> Jordan_U: i have trouble with GRUB: first I installed Ubuntu and after that I restored a backup of my XP on an empty partition. I manually added Windows to GRUB, but it does't work :(
[11:22] <sayanara1818181> Well, I will try installing ubuntu here again in a lil' bit
[11:22] <loguser1> any one?
[11:22] <sayanara1818181> cyaz in an hour or two
[11:22] <Jordan_U_> Abu-Aadam, All the "versions" use the same repositories, just install whatever you like + developer tools
[11:23] <Abu-Aadam> Jordan_U_: what about in taste
[11:23] <erudified> hah, cafuego with the dell 1390 firmware .deb hookup
[11:23] <erudified> high score!
[11:23] <newguy> Jordan_U_ << im newguy, soz
[11:24] <Tomi_G> I have trouble with GRUB: first I installed Ubuntu and after that I restored a backup of my XP on an empty partition. I manually added Windows to GRUB, but it does't work :( Any ideas?
[11:24] <kilo_> !paste
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <ere4si> !dualboot
[11:26] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:26] <void^> Tomi_G: how did you restore it?
[11:27] <Draggin> Good day!  More questions - it is possible to install Ubuntu onto a flash disk and boot up from it right?
[11:27] <Tomi_G> void^: simply c/p
[11:27] <morfar> How do I enable mouse 4 and 5 mouse buttons? And how can I change USB polling rate? (Ubuntu 7.10)
[11:27] <void^> Tomi_G: eh, you mean you basically just copied all files on some filesystem?
[11:27] <Tomi_G> void^: yes
[11:27] <erudified> How is Ubuntu support for DVD-RAM? Can I just mount the drive rw and not use any burning software?
[11:28] <DrJ> I removed a disk from my PC and now I can't boot to windows or ubuntu ... grub error 21
[11:28] <foldart> !mouse | morfar
[11:28] <ubotu> morfar: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:28] <void^> Tomi_G: that.. doesn't sound like something that would work. perhaps if you edit boot.ini and fix the bootblock (using some windows cd, fixboot), but i still doubt it will work just like that.
[11:29] <loguser1> ok. how about i make a tunnel of by ssh and eliminate all problems of  ports that are unforwarded.
[11:29] <Tomi_G> void^: I don't really know how does booting work. Why shouldn't it work?
[11:29] <void^> !grub | DrJ
[11:29] <ubotu> DrJ: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:30] <DrJ> void^, none of that helps me
[11:30] <DrJ> I was already pointed to that
[11:30] <void^> Tomi_G: right now there is no way for it to work. the partition doesn't know what it is supposed to boot.
[11:30] <Tomi_G> void^: any way to fix it?
[11:31] <void^> Tomi_G: like i said above.. but better ask in a windows channel
[11:31] <ere4si> DrJ: google grub error21 - found links before that helped
[11:31] <Tomi_G> void^: thanks :)
[11:31] <void^> DrJ: reinstall grub - one of those links should explain it
[11:31] <roxbox> how do I get sda1 to automount please?
[11:32] <roxbox> that is my external hard drive
[11:32] <bullgard4> karmue: Dann wird der Bildschirm 3,5 min dunkel.  Dann erscheint der braune Anmeldebildschirm. Wie kann ich diese lange dunkle Zeit verkürzen?
[11:32] <k1dugar> hello
[11:32] <ere4si> !DE
[11:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:32] <DrJ> void^, my problem is
[11:32] <DrJ> I don't know what the partitions are and whatnot
[11:33] <k1dugar> Can anyone help me with file name problem??
[11:33] <DrJ> dealing with a newbi here
[11:33] <k1dugar> There is a problem with my Ubuntu 7.10, When i copy some file from windows with long name and with some special char. My computer hangs and i have delete the file and power down to bring it back to normal
[11:35] <loguser1> whats nfs mounts
[11:35] <libregeek> I am having issues with installing ubuntu-7.10. I was able to boot ubuntu using live cd, but when I chose the manual partition and click "Forward" the installation just hangs and it doesn't suceed
[11:36] <libregeek> Is there any work around for the above problem ?
[11:36] <bullgard4> Gutsy installed from a CD. At the beginning there appear very fast some status messages before the brown login screen appears. Does Ubuntu save these messages somewhere?
[11:36] <gigolo_butuh_wan> siap
[11:36] <k1dugar> can someone tell what could be causing this problem??
[11:36] <void^> bullgard4: 'dmesg', or /var/log/dmesg
[11:37] <bullgard4> void^: No, these are not identical.
[11:37] <arash> Hi, I want to move some filed and folders to my external Hard drive, but I get a error every time it passes by a file with the letters å/ä/ö , how can I override this? (I use Kubuntu)
[11:37] <DrJ> okay without giving me that !grub useless help thing
[11:37] <DrJ> I removed a disk from my PC and now I can't boot to windows or ubuntu ... grub error 21
[11:38] <DrJ> I need help reinstalling grub
[11:38] <gordonjcp> !grub | DrJ
[11:38] <ubotu> DrJ: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:38] <DrJ> I'm completely stupid, and have failed to follow all instructions on google
[11:38] <gordonjcp> DrJ: follow the instructions in the HOWTO then
[11:38] <Abu-Aadam> I'm installing new ubuntu installation
[11:39] <gigolo_butuh_wan> hi.............kkjyjsdm9kgutgnergoijv8ue0oifg
[11:39] <gigolo_butuh_wan> ofjeugjoijfg
[11:39] <bullgard4> void^: I can prove my statement: Most of these screen messages are finished by '[OK]' on the right-hand fringe. The dmesg messages are not.
[11:39] <DrJ> I don't see where that is gordonjcp
[11:39] <k1dugar> hello can anyone help me?
[11:39] <ere4si> DrJ: lets try another tac - what was on the disk you removed?
[11:39] <gordonjcp> DrJ: are you ignoring ubotu or something?
[11:39] <gordonjcp> !grub | DrJ
[11:39] <ubotu> DrJ: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:40] <DrJ> and again, I don't find installing grub in those
[11:40] <Denyerec> Looking for someone who's managed to monitor an ubuntu machine from a windows machine using gkrellm.... any takers?
[11:40] <arash> !question | k1dugar
[11:40] <ubotu> k1dugar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:40] <loguser1>  where can i see which ports are forwarded when i log in the routers page?
[11:40] <gordonjcp> DrJ: have you read the Howto page?
[11:41] <libregeek> are there any known issues in ubuntu-7.10 with SATA ?
[11:41] <DrJ> yes
[11:41] <DrJ> none of it helped
[11:41] <DrJ> just confused me, more
[11:41] <gordonjcp> DrJ: try putting the disk back in then
[11:41] <gordonjcp> DrJ: which disk did you remove anyway?
[11:41] <simu> ok I need some advice. I have the need for a 64bit java plugin for firefox. I tried blackdown java (j2re1.4) but I need at least 1.5
[11:41] <mshadle> does anyone here use kickstart to automate their install?
[11:41] <k1dugar> There is a problem with my Ubuntu 7.10, When i copy some file from windows with long name and with some special char. My computer hangs and i have to delete the file and power down to bring it back to normal
[11:41] <gordonjcp> libregeek: in what sense?
[11:41] <bullgard4> libregeek: I do not have any problems with SATA in Ubuntu 7.10.
[11:41] <libregeek> I can't partition my hard disk
[11:41] <DrJ> one that was shipped off with a pc I sold
[11:41] <DrJ> hence, I can't put it back
[11:42] <gordonjcp> DrJ: "oops"
[11:42] <libregeek> when I do manual partition the installer hangs
[11:42] <DrJ> I don't see why it mattered so much
[11:42] <DrJ> it had no OS on it
[11:42] <ere4si> kldugar: is it xp files in ntfs?
[11:42] <gordonjcp> DrJ: which disk does your PC boot from?
[11:42] <DrJ> always has been the one in it now
[11:42] <k1dugar> yes
[11:42] <DrJ> has XP pro and ubuntu on it
[11:43] <gordonjcp> DrJ: is it possible that removing the disk you removed has changed the order that the PC sees disks in?
[11:43] <ere4si> !ntfs | kldugar
[11:43] <void^> bullgard4: ah, you don't mean the kernel messages but the bootscripts.. that's a little more difficult, there's no decent log for those things.. if there's nothing in /var/log/messages about the problem you're trying to figure out you could boot with gdm disabled which would give you an opportunity to inspect the output on the console (shift+pgup). tools like bootchart might be useful, but i've never used them.
[11:43] <ubotu> kldugar: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:43] <DrJ> gordonjcp, I know nothing about that type of thing
[11:43] <libregeek> gordonjcp: Nov 22 11:29:26 ubuntu ubiquity: Illegal number: LABEL=/data
[11:43]  * DrJ doesn't really know a thing about how the booting works
[11:43] <libregeek> I got this from /var/log/messages
[11:43] <ere4si> !ntfs-3g | kldugar
[11:43] <ubotu> kldugar: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:43] <DrJ> but even if that is the case
[11:44] <k1dugar> i don't have Windows on my disk, I backup my data into another computer and now i wanted to copy back but im facing this problem
[11:44] <gordonjcp> DrJ: what did Linux call your disk before you removed the one you took out?
[11:44] <DrJ> I have also failed to locate menu.lst/grub.conf
[11:44] <MinusSeven> has anyone here installed Windows XP into VirtualBox?
[11:44] <DrJ> unfortunatly, I don't know
[11:44] <gordonjcp> DrJ: how many disks does your PC have?
[11:44] <DrJ> as of now: 1
[11:45] <gordonjcp> ok
[11:45] <DrJ> with 3 partitions
[11:45] <gordonjcp> never mind the partitions for the moment
[11:45] <DrJ> 1 for windows, 1 just for files, and 1 for ubuntu
[11:45] <DrJ> k
[11:45] <ere4si> kldugar: windows won't share how ntfs works so linux can't use it well - that's why your having your troubles - ntfs-3g can read ntfs files but can't write them safely
[11:45] <gordonjcp> how exactly were the disks connected up?
[11:45] <DrJ> SATA?
[11:45] <k1dugar> well this is not my issue
[11:45] <DrJ> not sure what you mean
[11:46] <gordonjcp> DrJ: ok, so they would be called something like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb and so on
[11:46] <DrJ> anyway I can check that?
[11:46] <gordonjcp> DrJ: not really, but that's what they would have been called
[11:46] <DrJ> k
[11:46] <gordonjcp> DrJ: is there any chance that the drive you took out might have been the "first" one?
[11:47] <k1dugar> i have file in usb disk with fat32 and i can copy that file but when i click not even open, window hangs
[11:47] <DrJ> might have been
[11:47] <gordonjcp> DrJ: aha
[11:47] <gordonjcp> DrJ: have a look in your grub config for references to /dev/sdb and change them for /dev/sda
[11:47] <gordonjcp> DrJ: keep a copy of the original just in case
[11:47] <DrJ> again
[11:47] <DrJ> I have also failed to locate menu.lst/grub.conf
[11:48] <stefano_> i've got a problem with my webcam, in skype, the video is cropped at the top third. in ekiga it works fine though, does anyone have an idea why it doesnt work correctly with skype? (beta <IP_ADDRESS>-1)
[11:48] <pihus> is there a way to configure touchpad corners to do different things, e.g maximise & minimize?
[11:48] <gordonjcp> DrJ: and make notes, actual written notes on actual pieces of paper, of what you did
[11:48] <gordonjcp> DrJ: boot up with a livecd and mount the drive
[11:48] <DrJ> there is no /boot/grub/ or anything
[11:48] <DrJ> already have
[11:48] <gordonjcp> maybe you booted the wrong partition?
[11:48] <gordonjcp> s/booted/mounted/
[11:48] <DrJ> no, they are all there
[11:48] <DrJ> there is only 1 linux one
[11:49] <DrJ> and I'm in it
[11:49] <gordonjcp> DrJ: go to where the drive is mounted, usually /media/something
[11:49] <DrJ> okay, its not showing in /media/
[11:49] <DrJ> the windows partition is there
[11:49] <gordonjcp> and do find . -name 'menu.lst'
[11:49] <DrJ> and the files partition is there
[11:50] <DrJ> that command didn't show anything
[11:50] <DrJ> type it exactly as you said
[11:50] <stefano_> does anyone use skype and/or cheese with a logitech webcam?
[11:50] <DrJ> find. -name 'menu.lst'
[11:50] <DrJ> well
[11:50] <DrJ> find . -name 'menu.lst'
[11:51] <_ruben> find / -name 'menu.list'
[11:51] <DrJ> k, got two lines
[11:51] <ere4si> er4si
[11:51] <DrJ> both permission denied
[11:51] <Niculittu> hallo everyone...how can i adjust brightness in my laptop acer aspire 9302?
[11:51] <DrJ> /root/.gconfd
[11:51] <DrJ> /root/.gconf
[11:52] <DrJ> oh wait
[11:52] <DrJ> a bunch more just showed
[11:52] <sweetgum> mhm.
[11:52] <sweetgum> who's up?
[11:52] <sweetgum> besides that guy
[11:53] <stefano_> i am
[11:53] <cox> lol depends what you define as up
[11:53] <sweetgum> haha
[11:53] <sweetgum> so many things cock:)
[11:53] <sweetgum> anyway. who could jist me what templates are used for in c++
[11:53] <sweetgum> in a "...etc" sort of way
[11:54] <DrJ> well gordonjcp
[11:55] <libregeek> I am still lost, can somebody help?
[11:56] <sweetgum> maybe, what's wrong
[11:57] <libregeek> sweetgum: to me?
[11:57] <chinadoll2405> does anyone know how to load a camcorder
[11:58] <gordonjcp> chinadoll2405: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:58] <chinadoll2405> trying to run three cams
[11:58] <chinadoll2405> for a site i broadcast on
[11:58] <chinadoll2405> 2 worked
[11:59] <chinadoll2405> but the camcorder didnt
[11:59] <chinadoll2405> not picking it up
[12:00] <Gasten> Hey doods! Bought a new dell inspiron computer. Trying to install Gutsy. After the Ubuntu loading-screen have been on for a couple of seconds, it it dumbs me inte som Built-in shell (ash) and complains about ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40). Anyone knows what I should do? (more)
[12:00] <DrJ> you there gordonjcp?
[12:00] <Niculittu> hallo everyone...how can i adjust brightness in my laptop acer aspire 9302?
[12:00] <DrJ> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[12:00] <DrJ> gordonjcp, I tried the command version there (the second post)
[12:00] <gordonjcp> DrJ: I am here-ish
[12:00] <Gasten> it tells me that I should type "help" to get the standard commands, but when I type, I get two letters from every keystroke (ie "hheellpp")
[12:01] <DrJ> its says no such device for all hd0-7
[12:01] <DrJ> grub
[12:01] <DrJ> root (hd0,0)
[12:01] <DrJ> and so on
[12:01] <gordonjcp> DrJ: hm, don't know
[12:02] <chinadoll2405> what u think gordonjcp is it possible
[12:02] <gordonjcp> DrJ: I've kind of finished lunch and need to get back to real work now, sorry
[12:02] <libregeek> I think it's a waste of time here, I should look some other ways
[12:02] <DrJ> okay, can I just recover windows then
[12:02] <DrJ> somehow
[12:03] <ere4si> !ask | libregreek
[12:03] <ubotu> libregreek: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <bluetoothmac> for irssi http://pastebin.ca/793574 what am i doing wrong, the /msg nickserv identify isnt going through.
[12:03] <libregeek> I had a critical install problem
[12:03] <libregeek> I was able to boot ubunut-7.10 live cd
[12:04] <libregeek> I chose manual partition, and created new  partition, but the process never ends, it's always showing busy ...
[12:04] <bastid_raZor> DrJ, i missed most of your previous statements but from the sounds of it.. just put the install disc for windows and do a recovery
[12:05] <DrJ> can't find it
[12:05] <libregeek> ere4si: I am using SATA hard disk
[12:05] <chinadoll2405> any help in geting ubuntu to reconize my camcorder
[12:05] <gordonjcp> DrJ: probably, but I don't know anything about Windows
[12:05] <DrJ> yea, it really just aint my day
[12:05] <bastid_raZor> DrJ, if you don't have the windows install disc.. sucks to be you.
[12:06] <DrJ> well, hehe ... I have it somewhere
[12:06] <Abu-Aadam> I am making a new ubuntu installation and I have problem with it stuck on scanning apt mirrors
[12:06] <cox> chinadoll2405: whats camcorder is it?
[12:06] <DrJ> but finding it requires me to go through cd by cd looking
[12:06] <Abu-Aadam> it is taking long time
[12:06] <DrJ> its not exactly a legal cd
[12:06] <bastid_raZor> DrJ, then download another.. burn it and do the repair
[12:06] <DrJ> oh wait
[12:06] <DrJ> scratch that
[12:06] <DrJ> already found it
[12:07] <DrJ> I guess I will try this fixmbr thingy
[12:07] <chinadoll2405> sony digital handy cam DCR-TRV130 on dazzle 80
[12:07] <bastid_raZor> DrJ, i'm guessing you did the dual boot and windows is now mucked. windows is retarded and links to put system files all over a partition.
[12:08] <bastid_raZor> links == likes
[12:08] <chinadoll2405> did u get that cox
[12:08] <cox> yeh, i was just looking on google.
[12:08] <chinadoll2405> ook
[12:08] <chinadoll2405> lol
[12:09] <cox> bored haha
[12:09] <ertu505> hii
[12:09] <chinadoll2405> if u can help id greatly appreciate it
[12:09] <ertu505> from turkeyy
[12:09] <snadge> is there a proper way to install firefox 3 beta 1 on gutsy?
[12:09] <cox> looks like a program called kino might make it work
[12:09] <chinadoll2405> where do i get
[12:10] <cox> apt-get install kino
[12:10] <DrJ> please god let ths work
[12:10] <DrJ> omg, omg, omg
[12:10] <DrJ> windows xp booting
[12:11] <Tidus> ... ? hardly anything to be excited about?
[12:11] <DrJ> when all your files are there
[12:11] <chinadoll2405> im new to this cox
[12:11] <DrJ> there is a little
[12:11] <chinadoll2405> but i get this when i put it in
[12:11] <Tidus> please forgive me, just never seen anyone jump for joy at xp booting
[12:11] <DrJ> :)
[12:11] <bastid_raZor> DrJ, all you had to do was install ntfs-3g and mount that partition.. files still there and usable
[12:12] <Tidus> bastid_raZor, ntfs-3g is installed by default on gutsy
[12:12] <open_99> Hi all
[12:12] <bastid_raZor> Tidus, true, but not everyone is using gutsy.
[12:12] <DrJ> yea I know I didn't lose my files
[12:12] <chinadoll2405> did u get cox
[12:12] <DrJ> but I didn't want to lose my OS either
[12:12] <chinadoll2405> in prv
[12:13] <ronnie__> exit
[12:13] <cox> chinadoll2405: sorry mate say again
[12:13] <clouse> Hi there all, how do I go about adding a space or two between some of the OS's I have listed in my good old grub menu.lst?
[12:13] <CapaH> Anyone know how to watch Netflix from Ubuntu ?
[12:13] <chinadoll2405> i sent u the problem in ur prv
[12:14] <open_99> I have an issue with installing a web cam, already looked through all the ubuntu logs etc. They say bug with pwc, and use easycam, well neither will install due to requiring header file. can anyone help please
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> clouse: could add an empty entry title "" ?
[12:16] <cox> chinadoll2405: sorry mate am at work, best bet is check google out mate
[12:16] <clouse> WaltzingAlong: thanks.
[12:17] <clouse> WaltzingAlong: Is that the normal way people do it?
[12:17] <chinadoll2405> ive tried
[12:18] <cox> chinadoll2405: tried google?
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> clouse: when ubuntu is installed next to windows the installer already adds a newline between the ubuntu os and windows
[12:19] <Tidus> doesn't matter how much whitespace you put in there... it only looks at the number of the "Title" lines
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> clouse: so there you have it from Tidus; just need a 'title' line as a separator
[12:21] <clouse> WaltzingAlong: OK thanks, I understand what you mean now
[12:22] <clouse> WaltzingAlong: Can I just put "title" or do I have to add a blank entry like "title """?
[12:23] <clouse> Also once you have Ubuntu setup exactly the way you wont it can you just image that install and then re-image any computer a will?
[12:24] <indraveni> hi all
[12:24] <MrLinux> hy there I have e question .. where I can download Ubuntu 7.10 for PPC ? I have an' iBook G3 DUAL USB
[12:24] <indraveni> i need linux drivers for my touchscript finger sensor
[12:24] <kbrooks> clouse, no.
[12:24] <indraveni> on my sony vaio laptop
[12:24] <indraveni> its a usb finger sensor
[12:25] <indraveni> can some one there help me in getting this please
[12:25] <kbrooks> clouse, well, you can, but it won't redetect new hardware.
[12:25] <clouse> kbrooks: That was my next questioin.
[12:25] <MrLinux> hy there I have e question .. where I can download Ubuntu 7.10 for PPC ? I have an' iBook G3 DUAL USB
[12:25] <kbrooks> clouse, so you want to put the image to use in exactly the same computer.
[12:26] <kbrooks> MrLinux, it's highly likely that 7.10 will not work on that (even if there is a PPC version)
[12:26] <clouse> kbrooks: Sure, I will need that kind of back ability in the future.
[12:27] <MrLinux> kbrooks ok .. but 7.04 works ?
[12:27] <brobostigon> hi
[12:27] <kbrooks> MrLinux, i'm not saying it won't work.
[12:27] <kbrooks> MrLinux, give it a try, by all means. but ibook g3 is old.
[12:27] <MrLinux> kbrooks I have the Ubuntu 7.04 LIVE CD works just fine.. but .. my screen is duble .. why ?
[12:28] <kbrooks> MrLinux, duble?
[12:28] <kazol> For some reason my Ubuntu computer completely froze...how do I find out what happened?
[12:28] <kazol> I thought Linux should be stable (and not freeze completely).
[12:28] <MrLinux> kbrooks yes... is half duble on my screen .. :|
[12:28] <kbrooks> MrLinux, you misspelled, maybe?
[12:28] <Tarkus_> are the majority of GTK based applications built with glade?
[12:28] <MrLinux> kbrooks I don't know why.. becouse the Ubuntu 6.061 works fine..
[12:29] <kbrooks> kazol, it IS stable.
[12:29] <MrLinux> kbrooks man.. do you want me to make a picture of it ? to seee?
[12:29] <kazol> kbrooks: Why did it freeze completely then?
[12:29] <mohammed> kazol , see the process which r running , and  search the one that takes too much recources
[12:29] <kbrooks> kazol, you can use alt+sysrq+k to close applications forcefully if it doesn't seem to respond to kb or mouse commands.
[12:29] <kbrooks> mohammed, he couldnt.
[12:30] <clouse> kbrooks: But what I am setting out to learn is how to set an install with all the options the way I want them, such as the correct dictionary in writer and other thing like that. Is this possible? And if so where do I start?
[12:30] <kbrooks> kazol, that keyboard command is caught first and dealt with, not passed down to programs
[12:30] <kazol> mohammed, kbrooks: It froze *completely*-the clock wasn't even updating and I could not change the screen at all.
[12:32] <kbrooks> clouse, umm, let me get this straight. you want to do something like install programs while you are installing ubuntu, configure them etc?
[12:32] <Abu-Aadam> when I try use sudo it says time stamp too far into the future
[12:32] <nakeee> is there a way to make the nvidia and regular libGL live happily together?
[12:32] <Abu-Aadam> i'm going to reinstall ubuntu
[12:33] <brobostigon> thar may ean the time in your bios is wrong
[12:33] <kbrooks> lol.
[12:33] <Tarkus_> how do i find out where my program install directories are?
[12:34] <void^> Abu-Aadam: sudo -k
[12:35] <lvmsubuntu> ive come here for a little guidance on the best way to install ubuntu on a lvm
[12:35] <bastid_raZor> abu is gone.. that retard left too quick
[12:35] <clouse> kbrooks: Yar that kind of thing, something is coming up where I will have to install Ubuntu on tens of computers a week so it would must for me to automate the process.
[12:36] <fifo_> How do I access samba shares in Gnome. In KDE I just do: smb://hostname/Share
[12:36] <kbrooks> clouse, you can do that by making a new CD from the desired ubuntu distribution and changing it a little
[12:36] <kbrooks> clouse, i dont have links around... but ill look.
[12:37] <nakeee> Taranis, if you install a package you can do dpkg -L name to see the installed files
[12:38] <nakeee> I meant Tarkus_
[12:38] <kbrooks> clouse, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[12:38] <clouse> kbrooks: So the hardware will be mainly the same but with slight variations.
[12:38] <kbrooks> clouse, no need to worry about hardware.
[12:38] <clouse> kbrooks: Thankyou.
[12:39] <clouse> kbrooks: Really? You mean Ubuntu adapts?
[12:39] <kazol> kbrooks: So that command will work even when the computer is completely frozen and unresponsive?
[12:40] <kbrooks> clouse, i'm talking about the above link. for creating a new live cd, you dont need to worry about hardware
[12:41] <skino> hi guys...  quick question. i have set up webbased servers on windows machines but i would like to use my linux box. how do i go about setting it up... i have found some sites but they didnt seem to help me
[12:41] <kbrooks> kazol, correct
[12:42] <clouse> kbrooks: Sorry I am a bit thick sometimes, I get you now an am now reading the awesome Live CD Customizing page, thank you again for you direction.
[12:42] <ikonia> skino: you need a webserver like apachge
[12:42] <killer> !list
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[12:42] <kbrooks> clouse, np.
[12:42] <skino> yes but the packages i find dont seem to install...
[12:42] <ikonia> skino: what are you doing to instlal ?
[12:43] <skino> i want to install apache and PHP and MySQL but unlike windows i cant seem to find a package for all three
[12:43] <skino> and the others dont install for me
[12:43] <ikonia> what are you doing to install them ?
[12:43] <skino> oh sorry lol 2 secs
[12:44] <Tarkus> anyone know about the error "unable to get an exclusive lock" that comes up when trying to run synaptic, updates, add/remove, etc..?
[12:44] <skino> apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[12:44] <ikonia> skino: and what is the error
[12:44] <ikonia> Tarkus: means you probably have another package manager runnning
[12:44] <ahagen> hmm. Do all elements in the current pipeline have to be in the playing state at the same time for anything to come out of the stream? I'm trying to connect up a playbin and only turn it on at a specific moment
[12:45] <ikonia> ahagen: I have no idea what your asking
[12:45] <Tarkus> ikonia, i've restarted my pc several times, after also logging out and back in, and restarting X.
[12:45] <ahagen> I'll try to be more precise sorry
[12:45] <CapaH> Does anyone here know how to watch Netflix online movies using Ubuntu ? There has to be some trick to do this, I have been unable to find it. Anyone?
[12:45] <skino> how u log on with root on ubuntu through terminal... thought it was sudo root?
[12:46] <Tidus> skino, sudo <command>
[12:46] <ikonia> skino: don't login as root, use sudo
[12:46] <Tidus> or sudo -i for a root shell
[12:46] <Tarkus> ikonia, and i cant seem to find one running in the system onitor
[12:47] <skino> lol bit embaressing but its working now lol
[12:47] <CapaH> skino: sudo bash
[12:47] <ahagen> I'm trying to crossfade something. I have a playbin connected to an adder connected and to an audiosink. It works fine. Now I want a second paused playbin to be paused and start feeding the adder at a later time. How do I gracefully do this dynamically?
[12:47] <skino> i was logged in with root earlier and it wasnt working
[12:47] <CapaH> skino: sudo (run this command as root) bash (the name of the "shell" you want to run, bash is the most common used shell)
[12:47] <CapaH> skino: so: "sudo bash"
[12:47] <man_in_shack> sudo passwd
[12:48] <man_in_shack> :)
[12:48] <skino> cheers guys n galls its very helpful :D
[12:49] <serv1> Hallo@all
[12:50] <MrLinux> ikonia please tell me at' what speed I must burd the CD for a CD-ROM ?
[12:50] <ikonia> MrLinux: I don't k now
[12:50] <ikonia> MrLinux: I burn at 48x
[12:50] <ikonia> depends on your drive and computer capabilities
[12:50] <MrLinux> ikonia lool :)
[12:50] <gerzilla> hey. when im using mail -s "fdfd"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... its not working, its writes me : Mailing to remote domains not supported
[12:50] <Tidus> MrLinux, if you really want the cd to last, burn at 16
[12:51] <gerzilla> how can i fix it?
[12:51] <MrLinux> Tidus ok thanks
[12:51] <ikonia> gerzilla: postfix doesn't relay
[12:52] <gerzilla> umm so what can i do?
[12:52] <gerzilla> i got some scripts that using it
[12:53] <ahagen> ikonia : a more fundamental question: If I have a pipeline. Can one playbin be paused and one be playing in the same pipeline or do they all have to be in the same state?
[12:53] <ikonia> gerzilla: what is a "pipeline" ?
[12:53] <ikonia> ops
[12:53] <ikonia> ahagen: what is a "pipe line"
[12:53] <gerzilla> ..?
[12:53] <ikonia> oops
[12:53] <ikonia> gerzilla: that wasn't meant for you
[12:53] <ahagen> ikonia: same parent GstPipeline
[12:53] <ikonia> parent ?
[12:53] <ikonia> ahagen: what are you taling about ?
[12:54] <ahagen> as In both added to the same parent via gst_bin_add
[12:54] <AlexUbuntuBcn> hi family!
[12:54] <ahagen> lol, I'm asking the wrong people here :)
[12:54] <ahagen> ikonia : sorry, I was mistaking you for someone else
[12:54] <ahagen> ikonia : I apologize ;9
[12:55] <ahagen> ahagen: thanks for the effort still!
[12:55] <Jo-W> what would be the easiest way to set up ubuntu in a VM under windows?
[12:55] <clouse> So how do I install a PDF printer in Ubuntu 7.10?
[12:55] <ahagen> <- utterly confused
[12:56] <ikonia> Jo-W: install it to a vm in windows
[12:56] <Jo-W> all i need is the name of a good vm
[12:57] <ikonia> Jo-W: ask in #windows
[12:57] <iank> HALP
[12:57] <ikonia> Jo-W: not all vm's on ubuntu are available on windows platforms
[12:57] <iank> I'm trapped in a BOX
[12:57] <ikonia> iank: you have to ask a question
[12:57] <timothe> Jo-W: what are you trying to run?
[12:57] <ikonia> iank: don't use caps
[12:57] <timothe> vmware works well on both
[12:57] <iank> I'm not, you are.
[12:57] <ikonia> iank: don't be silly,
[12:57] <bruno> When my films are on NTFS disk I cant watch it in Ubuntu?? :|
[12:57] <iank> Who is being silly?
[12:58] <iank> RemoteViewer is being silly.
[12:58] <kazol> bruno: Did you install CSS support?
[12:58] <clouse> I have googled it but I mustent know the right key words as I am not getting anything.
[12:58] <ikonia> clouse: what are you after
[12:58] <bruno> no
[12:58] <bruno> will it help? ;>
[12:58] <Jo-W> timothe: I need to compile a .so from C on windows
[12:58] <kazol> bruno: Wait, never mind, they are already unencrypted.
[12:58] <Jo-W> and test it
[12:58] <ikonia> Jo-W: you can't do that on windows
[12:58] <Jo-W> errr
[12:58] <AlexUbuntuBcn> please. somone can help me? Yesterday i add a repository for install a program, i install and later appears 64 updates (for the new repository) I remove this repository, but now continue with this updates. How i can remove it? or decline, or clean the apt...
[12:58] <kazol> bruno: Can you watch movies on you EXT3 volume?
[12:58] <Jo-W> i ment on linux
[12:58] <ikonia> Jo-W: your libarry requirements will be wrong
[12:59] <Jo-W> yeah i now i miss typed :)
[12:59] <bruno> kazol: i have no one
[12:59] <sybariten> how much a danger is a dist-upgrade on a headless machine?
[12:59] <bruno> kazol: this is my first run of ubuntu :)_
[12:59] <kazol> bruno: Try using vlc-it has greater multimedia support than the defaul programs (Totem, etc.)
[12:59] <kazol> bruno: "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[12:59] <bruno> kazol: thx man
[12:59] <ikonia> sybariten: no more / less than one without
[13:00] <sybariten> ikonia: ok...  should i bother about doing lots of backups of dotfiles?
[13:00] <ikonia> sybariten: up to you, how important it is, how confident you are recovering etc