[12:01] <Frogzoo> chamberlain: not necessarily, some of us just use fresh installs
[12:01] <benjamin_> daftpnk: make a search about fglrx on the wiki, and it will tell you how to use your card witha vanilla kernel
[12:01] <chamberlain> thats true frogzoo
[12:01] <zyth> merm, so it prints but throws up an error anyhow?
[12:01] <daftpnk> well, i recompiled my kernel this morning (trouble with hardware sensors) and now when im trying to get 3d rendering/xgl going all i can get out of fglrxino is "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org" instead of ATI as previously
[12:01] <wise> zyth: meh, you have to give credit to iPod for making the best portable media player in existance.  the stock iPod is so great
[12:01] <daftpnk> ok ill give it a shot benjamin_ thanks
[12:01] <alecf> hey
[12:01] <zyth> wise, no I don't , I bought one and returned it the next day
[12:01] <skywalker> my sound card is detected but its with wrong one?
[12:02] <chamberlain> hello alecf
[12:02] <daftpnk> you too zyth
[12:02] <alec> i need help
[12:02] <zyth> daftpnk, np
[12:02] <alec> i just downloaded the ubuntu 6.10 disc
[12:02] <zyth> alec, #psychiatry
[12:02] <chamberlain> sure alec
[12:02] <skywalker> I need to change this
[12:02] <ingrix> daftpnk: Go to the link that zyth sent you, and do the manual install
[12:02] <merm> zyth:  it's when I go into my Printer CP in XP and open the queue. I see this error at the top of the screen. Though it's printing great.
[12:02] <ingrix> daftpnk: Er, what is your video card model, first?
[12:02] <alec> but when it loads the xserver, all the graphics go nuts
[12:02] <chamberlain> whats wrong alec?
[12:02] <daftpnk> ingrix: ati mobility radeon x700
[12:02] <alec> so i cant install
[12:02] <zyth> merm, windows is probably on crack and I'd not worry about it :)
[12:02] <wise> damnit... i used to be such a IRC addict... goddamnit.
[12:03] <alec> i have a macbook pro, c2d, radeon mobility x1600
[12:03] <chamberlain> hmmm alec, try the alternate install cd, but that might mean your software isnt supported
[12:03] <Hagane> vox549.. whats the man command for?
[12:03] <ingrix> daftpnk: Yeah, thats similar to mine, which I just had to do that for this morning.  Go with the manual install and it should work
[12:03] <chamberlain> what is your graphics card?
[12:03] <alec> it worked for the edgy install, i wanted to use 6 instead
[12:03] <daftpnk> ah alright, thats a relief
[12:03] <skywalker> what is a good free emulatior to use beside winr?
[12:03] <merm> :) I'm sure it is. Just wanted to understand what was going on if I could. But maybe not worth it.
[12:03] <daftpnk> ive been tearing my hair out
[12:03] <alec> and then 6 didnt work
[12:03] <Hagane> vox754 what was that man command thing you said to do?
[12:03] <alec> so i went back to 7
[12:03] <benjamin_> daftpnk: this model actually works with the opensource driver if i remember. you might want to check out radeondriver page on the wiki
[12:03] <alec> and then the 7 installer wont work either
[12:03] <DARKGuy> skywalker: there isn't any other :/
[12:03] <ingrix> daftpnk: lol, I know what you mean
[12:03] <alec> so now NOTHING is working.
[12:04] <chamberlain> alec youll have to use full numbers like 6.06, i cant understand just 6 and 7
[12:04] <vox754> Hagane, nothing, I thought it would explain it, but I was mistaken.
[12:04] <BrianG> if i add more ram to my computer running ubuntu do i have to do anything to ubuntu to tell it i have new ram?
[12:04] <cables> skywalker, you mean wine? There's crossover office and cedega which are commercial versions of wine.
[12:04] <alec> 6.10, 7.04
[12:04] <chamberlain> nope BrianG
[12:04] <DARKGuy> skywalker: Cedega (for games) isn't free (except the SVN version, but personally it's a pain to configure and compile (slow PC...)) and CrossOver Office but it isn't free, it has a trial though...
[12:04] <chamberlain> and alec, what is your graphics card?
[12:04] <alec> mobility radeon x1600
[12:04] <skywalker> I heard virtualdisk\
[12:04] <DARKGuy> oO
[12:04] <chamberlain> let me check it out
[12:04] <Hagane> vox754 okay trying ndiswrapper again now
[12:05] <wise> oh actually... i am having a problem with all media players other than xmms... i got the restricted codec thign off of add/remove... but banshee isn't working
[12:05] <moose> is there a quick command to check how much RAM ubuntu detects?
[12:05] <benjamin_> cedega is not only commercial, they re bastards. You will have to pay quite a lot to have poor quality cdrom protection compatibility. just use wine and crack your stuff if needed
[12:05] <tealson> does anyone have some experiance with dd? howlong does "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=10240" normally take?
[12:05] <feryana> I bought a new computer CORE 2 with 2GB ram 2Gforce with Windows Vista Premium.... i'm with my ubuntu laptop, and I will boot the unopened pc (once opened) with the Cd of Ubuntu Desktop to install... I wont even see how is vista :P
[12:05] <chamberlain> alec, to get you right, no version is working for you anymore?  did they use to work?
[12:05] <wise> same with rhythembox
[12:05] <alec> 7.04 did
[12:05] <LordUltimaDavid> do the newest nvidia beta drivers work with geforce 4s?
[12:05] <alec> now none of the install discs show a usable GUI
[12:06] <alec> its just weird distorted graphics
[12:06] <wise> how can i get my MP3's working with banshee or rhythembox?
[12:06] <benjamin_> feryana: we all are very proud :)
[12:06] <chamberlain> alec, you could try to install from the alternate install and see if it sorts itself out
[12:06] <alec> sure
[12:06] <zyth> feryana, say no to the eula on vista, take pics, demand a refund
[12:06] <alec> be back in... a bit :P
[12:06] <chamberlain> lol ok alec
[12:07] <feryana> Some one wants the Vista CD (just one buck) plus $5 shipping
[12:07] <chamberlain> so true benjamin
[12:07] <MybEvil_> how do I update my plugins for watching videos?
[12:07] <DARKGuy> haha
[12:07] <DARKGuy> yay for reinstall? :P
[12:07] <chamberlain> mybevil, do you have them already installed?
[12:07] <MybEvil_> I don't know
[12:07] <MybEvil_> lol
[12:07] <chamberlain> (and working)
[12:07] <MybEvil_> I don't think :P
[12:07] <benjamin_> feryana: hehe my uni gives them for free !
[12:07] <stratusfear> anyone know how to make mplayer faster?
[12:07] <chamberlain> so you havent installed them yourself yet?
[12:07] <MybEvil_> no
[12:08] <MybEvil_> My friend sent me a vid to watch
[12:08] <dubby> hate to interrupt, but does anyone have any idea of a 'lightweight' tv recorder, preferably with a clean gui. I am aware of mythtv but its a resource hog, clunky, and hard to configure.
[12:08] <MybEvil_> and It said I needed plugins
[12:08] <stratusfear> anyone know how to make mplayer faster?
[12:08] <benjamin_> stratusfear: compile it yourself !
[12:08] <chamberlain> ok, youll have to follow a walktrhough, like http://www.ubuntuguide.org to read how
[12:08] <feryana> benjamin_ and you really want those copies? or just to play as freesbes
[12:08] <cafuego_> stratusfear: run it on higher end hardware
[12:08] <ingrix> stratusfear: Get Xine
[12:08] <Muntrue> Hello
[12:08] <reuben> question: just installed ubuntu edgy....I want help with screen resolution...how do I resize to 1440x900
[12:08] <SnrWhippy> vlc is the best
[12:08] <chamberlain> i suggest totem-xine
[12:08] <benjamin_> feryana: i didnt even bother taking one to be honnest
[12:09] <ingrix> reuben: Go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[12:09] <benjamin_> my computers dont have 512 megs of graphics mem
[12:09] <stratusfear> i have to edit ~/.mplayer/config but i dont remember what i have to write on it
[12:09] <DARKGuy> Beryl does the effects Vista does (and more!) with less resources
[12:09] <feryana> benjamin_ who wants that?  I will send to the garbage the Windows Vista Premium... ffrom the box to the trash : D :D
[12:09] <ingrix> reuben: If you have the ability to use that resolution, it will be there
[12:09] <coredata> interest
[12:09] <MybEvil_> chamberlain, the page isn't loading
[12:09] <daftpnk> true darkguy
[12:10] <chamberlain> mybevil?  you sure?
[12:10] <alec_> chamberlain, the reason i want to go back to 6.10 is because apparently 7.04 doesnt support beryl
[12:10] <AMD-> how do i add the directory containing `gtkmm-2.4.pc'
[12:10] <AMD-> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[12:10] <MybEvil_> yes
[12:10] <alec_> i tried and it didnt work.
[12:10] <DARKGuy> daftpnk: yeah, and it's cooler too xD
[12:10] <MybEvil_> i'll try again
[12:10] <chamberlain> ok alec, have you tried from the alternate cd?
[12:10] <benjamin_> feryana: if the US were respecting the Kyot treaty, maybe Microsoft wouldnt pollute the world soo much.
[12:10] <benjamin_> Kyoto*
[12:10] <alec_> im downloading now
[12:10] <chamberlain> ok
[12:10] <chamberlain> well give it a shot
[12:11] <daftpnk> darkguy: i had vista installed before ubuntu (showing off flip3d etc), thought id give ubuntu a shot a few weeks ago and havent used vista since :/
[12:11] <Muntrue> Question : is beryl only for ATI or Nvidea video cards ?
[12:11] <chamberlain> does it work now mybevil?
[12:11] <ingrix> daftpnk: Unless you are sadomasochistic you made the right choice lol
[12:11] <daftpnk> :p
[12:11] <alec_> vista blows.
[12:11] <reuben> only showing 1024x768....I have a 17" wxga and 1440x900 was the native in xp
[12:11] <ingrix> alec_: absoultely right
[12:11] <DARKGuy> daftpnk: lol!... good choice though :P I haven't had a chance to try Vista though :( I'd like to, just to see how it is xD
[12:11] <jrib> AMD-: install the missing dependencies
[12:11] <gravemind> how do I burn audio cds from flac files?
[12:11] <vox754> Hagane, you there? What's up? Tell me again seriously if you donated to ndiswrapper.
[12:11] <AMD-> i have try that about 100 times
[12:11] <DARKGuy> And to see how many apps I can crash
[12:12] <benjamin_> Muntrue: beryl is a window manager. u can run it with a 256k graphics card if u have6gigs of cpu
[12:12] <DARKGuy> at once :D
[12:12] <ingrix> DARKGuy: There are some 1200 critical errors at this point
[12:12] <mossy> hi all :)
[12:12] <daftpnk> heh
[12:12] <chamberlain> i find with vista that they are too busy trying to make it look good like os x and linux to make it stable
[12:12] <jrib> AMD-: tried what exactly.  What did you do?
[12:12] <DARKGuy> igor47: :| damn
[12:12] <AMD-> also i have found the missing fiel
[12:12] <alec_> why did it take them 6 years to make a new start button?
[12:12] <chamberlain> nice comment alec
[12:12] <DARKGuy> chamberlain: making it look good... they can. Making it as stable as Linux? never!
[12:12] <ingrix> chamberlain: Yeah man, have you tried to work the network manager?
[12:12] <feryana> benjamin_ I know.... I dont want to know the price of the comp without the Vista Premium.... 3 big ones to the trash :S
[12:12] <AMD-> i installed the missing stuff including the dev stuff
[12:12] <alec_> they could have done something else too
[12:12] <chamberlain> really though darkguy
[12:12] <benjamin_> Muntrue. what you need is your graphics drivers to be compatible with AIGLX or XGL
[12:13] <jrib> AMD-: *exactly* what did you install, what packages?
[12:13] <reuben> ingrix the option isn't available
[12:13] <DARKGuy> Though, I've heard they're using some kind of user-privilege system and security similar to Linux's :/
[12:13] <DARKGuy> Anyhow
[12:13] <AMD-> http://pastebin.ca/372208
[12:13] <chamberlain> not true darkguy, you can still hack it
[12:13] <ingrix> reuben: much past that I can't help you too much, sorry
[12:13] <vox754> DARKGuy, do you know a public pastebin for images?
[12:13] <gravemind> is serpentine good for burning music?
[12:13] <vox754> chamberlain, , do you know a public pastebin for images?
[12:13] <ingrix> reuben: I will do some reading though, and see what I can find
[12:13] <AMD-> jrib: gtkmm-2.4 >= 2.8.0 libglademm-2.4 >= 2.6.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.0
[12:14] <chamberlain> nope vox754, i use my apache web server
[12:14] <daftpnk> darkguy: sort of, only it asks you every 30 seconds for reauthentication
[12:14] <gravemind> vox754: I'm thinking imageshack
[12:14] <benjamin_> feryana: a shame really. actually my gf bought a Dell comp.... damn there is so uch trash on it preinstalled ! it doesnt have half the utilities i got, and still, my old laptop runs better than her fat 2 cpu thing !
[12:14] <gravemind> if that even exists
[12:14] <reuben> ingrix thanks this is my first linux install
[12:14] <DARKGuy> vox754: www.tinypic.com , imageshack.us
[12:14] <gravemind> ah, I was right
[12:14] <jrib> AMD-: heh, if you want me to help you, you need to work with me.  Those aren't package names
[12:14] <rkyraccoon55> !sound
[12:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:14] <vox754> thanks, all I needed a quick response.
[12:14] <gravemind> imageshack
[12:14] <ingrix> reuben: No problem.  I love it when people try linux out
[12:14] <DARKGuy> daftpnk: chamberlain: D'oh :/ now it doesn't surprise me, coming from MS... xD
[12:14] <rfschmid> I'm trying to get BasKet 1.0 working under Ubuntu Edgy (not kubuntu), but whenever I run it it tells me it cannot create folders for the new basket, unless I run it with gksudo, in which case it works.
[12:15] <TheOneMrO> im using Ubuntu Ultimate
[12:15] <TheOneMrO> its pretty sweet
[12:15] <daftpnk> hehe
[12:15] <ingrix> reuben: What did you say the desired resolution si?
[12:15] <gravemind> hey guys, is serpentine a good burner, can it burn things that are flac to regular audio?
[12:15] <daftpnk> im stuck with ubuntu home premium
[12:15] <AMD-> jrib:did you want to know what im installing not the dependencies ?
[12:15] <chamberlain> hahaha daftpnk
[12:15] <DARKGuy> xD
[12:15] <jrib> AMD-: I want to know what packages you installed to fulfill those dependencies
[12:15] <MybEvil_> can ubuntu run .wmv files?
[12:15] <feryana> benjamin_ I know.... that's other reason that I don't want to even boot once the new comp with the Vista Premium.  I can get pissed off finding that this old laptop is faster.... so I boot with Ubuntu and enjoy the new machine
[12:15] <chamberlain> thats what i love, linux is all what you make it
[12:15] <SnrWhippy> how easy is it to get beryl running
[12:16] <reuben> ingrix 1440x900 its an acer laptop with a 17" wxga
[12:16] <Hagane> vox754...hahha someone around me has their network key in their network name
[12:16] <chamberlain> depends snrwhippy, is your card supported?
[12:16] <Hagane> vox754 i just connected to it and it was connected just not sending/recieving data so i guess it isnt my router
[12:16] <MybEvil_> can ubuntu run .wmv files?
[12:16] <SnrWhippy> i've got ati radeon xpress 1100
[12:16] <chamberlain> yupp it can mybevil
[12:16] <ingrix> reuben: Alright, I have the same sort of screen.  I think I might have found out what it is
[12:16] <jrib> MybEvil_: players that run on ubuntu can let you view them
[12:16] <chamberlain> you have to have extracodecs installed
[12:16] <ingrix> reuben: I will reboot and tell you if it works
[12:16] <MybEvil_> ok
[12:16] <jrib> !wmv | MybEvil_
[12:17] <ubotu> MybEvil_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:17] <reuben> ingrix ok great
[12:17] <chamberlain> nice response ubotu
[12:17] <gravemind> MybEvil_: your best bet is installing VLC from system>administration>synaptic
[12:17] <wise> ubuntuguide is great!
[12:17] <chamberlain> isnt it, wise?
[12:17] <wise> wow...!
[12:17] <AMD-> jrib:ok i opends sypnaptic and searched for gtkmm and look for version 2.4 installed it and also install its dev files
[12:17] <alecfeld> i still prefer os x over anything :D
[12:17] <chamberlain> i use it all the time
[12:17] <spuddogg_> !mp3
[12:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:17] <wise> chamberlain: it solved all my audio issues in one commandline!
[12:17] <chamberlain> awesome
[12:17] <gravemind> os x is still the best I think... if you're rich
[12:18] <AMD-> i done the same for all files
[12:18] <wise> now i can use banshee
[12:18] <alecfeld> macs are very affordable
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> I thought OSX was based on Unix
[12:18] <feryana> welll the cd is burnt... gone take out the trash from the new pc :) see ya!
[12:18] <gravemind> it is
[12:18] <chamberlain> i use to use an old imac, till it blew somethings
[12:18] <daftpnk> macs are onesize fits all
[12:18] <jrib> ok, is libgtkmm-2.4-dev installed?
[12:18] <jrib> AMD-: ok, is libgtkmm-2.4-dev installed?
[12:18] <MybEvil_> gravemind, I see a VLS
[12:19] <MybEvil_> I don't see a VLC
[12:19] <wise> i think i like rhythembox better than banshee though
[12:19] <DARKGuy> um, just mod Ubuntu to look like Mac OSX, that'll do, and it's cheaper :P
[12:19] <alecfeld> but you dont get all that sweet os x power :D
[12:19] <alecfeld> like final cut pro
[12:19] <alecfeld> mmm
[12:19] <gravemind> MybEvil: do you have universe and multiverse repositories selected?
[12:19] <chamberlain> i have a dock on gnome :D
[12:19] <AMD-> i will check to make shure
[12:19] <DARKGuy> :/ well, but you get the look xD
[12:19] <Deimios> hi, i just did a system update on a fresh (brand new) Dapper system, and it failed while doing a kernel update (as well as Openoffice.org), now the system won't boot...the only way I can get it to boot is to restart in recovery mode on the previous version of the kernel...I tried running "aptitude install" to see if it would complete the kernel upgrade, but it still fails
[12:19] <alecfeld> pfft screw the look
[12:19] <Hasrat_USA> hey darkguy my KDE in Ubuntu already resembles MacOSx and if i add beryl xgl/composite etc it would fly :P
[12:19] <MybEvil_> I don't think
[12:19] <MybEvil_> lol
[12:19] <chamberlain> deimios, try to get your data off, and reinstall from a disk
[12:20] <joebob777as7> can someone help me with getting gimpshop on kubuntu? or help me find the deb for it? I can't find it on apt
[12:20] <Black^Dragon> how did you get that Hasrat_USA?
[12:20] <ingrix> reuben: Sorry, what I thought would work didn't work
[12:20] <ingrix> reuben: I don't have too much advice past that
[12:20] <Hasrat_USA> Black^Dragon: get what? KDE?
[12:20] <AMD->  jrib:yes it is installed
[12:20] <gravemind> who uses flac?
[12:20] <DARKGuy> Hasrat_USA: Cool xD, how did you do it? I haven't tinkered with KDE's docker very much but did you really made it look like OSX's top bar? o.o
[12:20] <Black^Dragon> make ubuntu look like kde desktop yes Hasrat_USA
[12:20] <jrib> AMD-: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:20] <sergo> hello
[12:20] <AMD-> 6.10
[12:20] <AMD-> edgy
[12:21] <sergo> it is possible to play .avi ?
[12:21] <chamberlain> hey, sergo
[12:21] <chamberlain> yupp
[12:21] <Hagane> vox754 how do i run a .run file?
[12:21] <sergo> how, tell me please... :(
[12:21] <gravemind> Deimos: maybe you should reinstall?
[12:21] <bimberi> !gimpshop | joebob777as7
[12:21] <ubotu> joebob777as7: gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[12:21] <reuben> ingrix ok no hassles
[12:21] <Deimios> chamberlain:  that's not a problem since there's no data on it yet, (it's a fresh system), but i'm concerned if it will happen again
[12:21] <chamberlain> ummm let me dig up the link
[12:21] <chamberlain> it shouldnt happen again deimios, something probably just screwed up
[12:21] <jrib> AMD-: why is ./configure using /usr/local/bin/pkg-config ?
[12:21] <CPU_Wizard> hello people. i would like o install an irc server on ubuntu, but don't know how... i issued the following command: sudo apt-get install ircd and installed some stuff, but now i don't know what to do... any help would be really appreciated :)
[12:21] <vox754> Hagane, I don't know. What is it? Maybe "bash file.run"
[12:22] <reuben> ingrix thanks a lot anyway...how do i install beryl...cant get apt-get to work
[12:22] <chamberlain> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats there sergo
[12:22] <ingrix> reuben: Do you know what synaptic is?
[12:22] <Hasrat_USA> DARKGuy: well how much you want to customize and make it look like MacOSx entirely depends on your preference. for an introduction, just tinker with desktop configurations. there are plenty of themes and eye-candies available out there. also, beryl and other 3D desktops simply KILL every other OSs that exist on this planet, i.e. vista, xp mcOSx etc
[12:22] <AMD-> jrib:i have no clue
[12:22] <reuben> ingrix no
[12:22] <Deimios> the Kernel update seems to be failing while it's trying to install a module for a wireless driver, which I don't even need...if i was compiling a kernel myself I'd just go in and disable the module, but I'm wondering if it's possible to just disable that module using the package management system
[12:22] <jrib> AMD-: you must have installed your own pkg-config to /usr/local, that must be why it doesn't find anything.  Get rid of it
[12:22] <LordUltimaDavid> does "envy" setup aiglx as well as nvidia drivers?
[12:23] <user123> How I can see video in streaming (es googlevideo) on amd64 architecture?
[12:23] <ingrix> reuben: Go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:23] <chamberlain> deimios, its probably not a problem that will affect you much if you install from a disk
[12:23] <reuben> ingrix actually i've been going by advice i got from here...doing it now
[12:23] <Hasrat_USA> if you aint got KDE, type sudoo apt-get install KDE
[12:23] <desres> hey question: if i partition my hard drive to dual-boot xp and ubuntu, and i decide i don't like ubuntu, (i've already tried live disk), then can I delete the partition and get my full hard drive back for xp?
[12:23] <Hagane> vox754 the linuxant driver installer... u got to college?
[12:23] <Black^Dragon> that will work on ubuntu Hasrat_USA??
[12:23] <CPU_Wizard> anyone who can help me please?
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> Black^Dragon: yeah :P why wouldn't it?
[12:24] <Deimios> so should I avoid doing the kernel update in the future then?
[12:24] <AMD-> i did install pkg-config
[12:24] <chamberlain> desres, youll have to have a partition disk to resize the partition to its orivinal sizw
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> Black^Dragon: make sure you have sufficient disk space
[12:24] <vox754> Hagane, yes sir. Master of Science.
[12:24] <jrib> AMD-: through the package manager?
[12:24] <ingrix> reuben: Click the "Reload" button at the top when you open it up
[12:24] <AMD-> no sypnatic
[12:24] <Black^Dragon> I have no idea Hasrat_USA,, I'm very very new to useing linux, like a few weeks since install
[12:24] <CPU_Wizard> i would like o install an irc server on ubuntu, but don't know how... i issued the following command: sudo apt-get install ircd and installed some stuff, but now i don't know what to do... any help would be really appreciated :)
[12:25] <Xerroz> is there any way to get dmesg to not report [    0.000000]  ?
[12:25] <jrib> AMD-: yes, but you have /usr/local/bin/pkg-config which was not installed by the package manager (e.g. synaptic)
[12:25] <Hasrat_USA> many newbies i have confronted so far don't allocate much space for linux and give away most of their HDD's space for that M$ Winblow$ that copied stuff from linux and apple
[12:25] <chamberlain> cpu_wizard, you might want to google a howto
[12:25] <gravemind> desires: quick answer is yes
[12:25] <Hasrat_USA> Black^Dragon: you are using GNOME now, right?
[12:25] <CPU_Wizard> chamberlain, i tried google but i didn't get any results about ubuntu
[12:25] <chamberlain> well it isnt really distribution specific, the configuration should be universal
[12:25] <desres> Hasrat_USA: well, i wouldnt be doing that. I just have a 40GB hard drive, and itll be tight.
[12:25] <Black^Dragon> only one free connection to router atm Hasrat_USA, so useing my windows box, ubuntu box is on other desk
[12:26] <Hagane> vox754 .. :D
[12:26] <AMD->  jrib:i have just removed it using sypnatic but things still wont install
[12:26] <CPU_Wizard> i'll check again chamberlain thnx
[12:26] <chamberlain> no problem
[12:26] <Hasrat_USA> i'm new to linux too. running Linux for only a week
[12:26] <chamberlain> awesome hasrat, you liek it?
[12:26] <jrib> AMD-: you are misunderstanding me.  Do you mind joining me in #ubuntu-classroom where there is less traffic?
[12:26] <DARKGuy> Hasrat_USA: I agree :P but so far I haven't found any config to make Ubuntu look like OSX :/ I've just found GTK themes, login screens, wallpapers, desktop icons, shadows & beryl... but I haven't been able to make the top bar look like Mac OSX in Gnome/XFCE/KDE, that's all I have left xD
[12:27] <AMD-> graet idea
[12:27] <reuben> ingrix did that no beryl...searched and scrolled list
[12:27] <Hasrat_USA> chamberlain: yeah i do. i would say i NEED it, rather than merely saying 'like it' :
[12:27] <chamberlain> awesome hasrat
[12:28] <chamberlain> cant stand windows, though im on it here ...
[12:28] <Hasrat_USA> 18:28:30 up 22:43,  1 user,  load average: 0.22, 0.24, 0.28
[12:29] <akao> hey guys
[12:29] <ingrix> reuben: It doesn't seem to be a package that you can download.  You will have to get the tar.gz file and make it that way
[12:29] <chamberlain> hey akao
[12:30] <reuben> ingrix will that be similar to a download and extract/install like on xp?
[12:30] <chamberlain> got a question akao, or just coming to hang out?
[12:30] <Deimios> ok chamberlain, it doesn't seem to me like it will actually resolve the root issue, but i'm going to try your suggestion and reinstall the entire OS...
[12:30] <chamberlain> ok deimios, good luck
[12:31] <ingrix> reuben: Kind of.  Most of the time the makers of programs will include some sort of README with their stuff, which should tell you what to do
[12:31] <reuben> ingrix ok i'll give it a try...will get back to you
[12:33] <Hasrat_USA> i do have a secret. i have made up a rule in my mind and followed it to overcome most of the major problems when switching from windows to linux. the secret is: you're bound to confront many problems after installing linux, and if you don't, congrats. but if you do, simply say it to yourself, "no matter what happens, i'm not gonna boot to Windows to use this feature." and that's it. for example, my mother wanted to talk to me from
[12:33] <Hasrat_USA> overseas using yahoo messenger. but that day i wasn't able to use gaim to do voice chatting with her in linux. so what i did was that i told her to postpone our online meeting. then i started doing my research and found out that gyachi has webcam and voice capabilities, went ahead and installed it. if i didn't do the research and switched to XP to talk to my mother, i wouldn't have learnt to install gyachi. what i did was that i
[12:33] <Hasrat_USA> sticked to Linux
[12:33] <Enverex> Anyone here familiar with Launchpad?
[12:33] <PriceChild> Enverex, hey yes
[12:33] <test3> is ubuntu the shit now? i mean i haven't used it in a min, i've been using debian
[12:33] <PriceChild> !ohmy | test3
[12:33] <ubotu> test3: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:34] <jrib> !anyone | Enverex
[12:34] <ubotu> Enverex: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:34] <chamberlain> test3, its awesome
[12:34] <Enverex> jrib, shhh
[12:34] <chamberlain> incredibly user friendly now
[12:34] <rutreras> sapote   estaras por aqui
[12:34] <test3> really, do you mind if your send me a screenshot of yours
[12:34] <Hasrat_USA> ubuntu is based on debian
[12:34] <Enverex> PriceChild, I just noticed my Karma dropped from over 100,000 to less than 4200. Any ideas why?
[12:34] <test3> Hasrat_USA, like i didn't know
[12:34] <test3> lol
[12:34] <jrib> Enverex: mine did that too if it makes you feel any better :)
[12:34] <PriceChild> Enverex, yes. basically the karma system broke.... it kept rising for people despite them not doing anything
[12:34] <ghatak> Hello, i am getting these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7578/ when i try to run a media player (any, vlc, amarok, audicity etc). i dont know what this means. help please...
[12:34] <PriceChild> Enverex, things were reset
[12:34] <rutreras> alguien me ayuda    como  cambio canal
[12:35] <Enverex> PriceChild, Ah, mine was going up because I was doing stuff, nice to see I lost it all :/
[12:35] <test3> can someone send me a screenshot of their current desktop, thanks
[12:35] <PriceChild> Enverex, you didn't lose it at all... you are now where you "should" be
[12:35] <altoid> has anyone gotten bluetooth running on their vaio on edgy?
[12:35] <feryana> one question guys!  How can I import all the folders / filters and e-mails saved from Evolution from this old pc to the new pc to Evolution also
[12:35] <Enverex> PriceChild, Odd, so either I shoudln't have been getting Karma for some of the stuff I was doing or just very little...
[12:36] <Kazuhiro> Hi all, are there any feisty iso mirrors in Australia I can download it from?
[12:36] <Hasrat_USA> lol test3. and some girls in yahoo chat rooms went crazy when they saw that ignore and broadcast feature in gyachi where the 'b****-be-gone' message appears and they were like omg how can you use voice in gyachi omg lol
[12:36] <Hagane> vox754 i install linuxant via the .deb package  but i cant seem to find the software anywhere
[12:36] <PriceChild> Enverex, Your karma was increasing because of your actions, and because of randomness....
[12:36] <vox754> Hasrat_USA, oh man, you go to your stories to !offtopic. They are nice, but this is just not the appropriate channel.
[12:36] <MybEvil_> hmm
[12:36] <MybEvil_> I installed VLC but it won't work
[12:36] <MybEvil_> it doesn' tplay the video
[12:36] <chamberlain> whats the error
[12:36] <chamberlain> ?
[12:36] <test3> wtf are you talking about?
[12:36] <MybEvil_> no error
[12:36] <Hasrat_USA> what? VLC always work
[12:36] <Hasrat_USA> works
[12:36] <MybEvil_> just doesn't play the video
[12:36] <Enverex> PriceChild, 4200 actions, 99,000 from randomness? damn
[12:36] <vox754> Hagane, I can't help you really with that. That is why you pay money for it.
[12:36] <PriceChild> Enverex, sorry :)
[12:36] <chamberlain> what happens?
[12:36] <uFo-Z> hi all. if i start glxgears or start any gl game for first time after booting, my xserver chrasehs. if i then start it again it works. anybodoy an idea ?
[12:36] <test3> anyone here on #debian? can someone tell them to unban me, i don't know why i got banned, thanks
[12:37] <MybEvil_> I start it up
[12:37] <test3> in*
[12:37] <PriceChild> Enverex, I can forward you the email concerning it if you want?
[12:37] <PriceChild> test3, not in here thankyou
[12:37] <gravemind> MybEvil_ do you have hardware accelleration?
[12:37] <Hagane> vox754 okay thanks
[12:37] <chamberlain> and open the file?
[12:37] <MybEvil_> I don't think
[12:37] <PriceChild> test3, please contact the person who banned you if you really want to get back in
[12:37] <MybEvil_> lol
[12:37] <Hasrat_USA> hmm i have never been there test3 lol let me go and try :P
[12:37] <Enverex> PriceChild, Nah, just wondered what had happened, guess I wasn't being alll that useful, heh
[12:37] <PriceChild> Enverex, I was a bit disappointed too :P
[12:37] <gravemind> try this command "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[12:37] <PriceChild> Hasrat_USA, you will probably just get banned yourself
[12:38] <MybEvil_> gravemind, me?
[12:38] <gravemind> yes
[12:38] <chamberlain> hmm i have to figure out why webmin is being rediculously slow
[12:38] <Enverex> PriceChild, nearly a 100k drop is a bit excessive. It wasn't going up when I was absent, only when I was doing things, meh
[12:38] <MybEvil_> it says: direct rendering: No
[12:38] <gravemind> MybEvil_ it tells you whether your video card is properly set up
[12:38] <MybEvil_> it says: direct rendering: No
[12:38] <uFo-Z> well, it tells me that dr is enabled. but also i got the fauiler : 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[12:38] <PriceChild> Enverex, Speak up in #launchpad if you want. Mine also went from many 10s of thousands down to barely 800
[12:38] <gravemind> ah, then there is your problem
[12:38] <Hasrat_USA> holy crap so many people are in the ban list
[12:39] <MybEvil_> lol, mind pointing me to a guide to fix that? :P
[12:39] <MybEvil_> I think I followed one once
[12:39] <l2s> whats the simple command to emulate another user via root?
[12:39] <gravemind> MybEvil_: I'm not sure where it is
[12:39] <MybEvil_> and my visual part of Ubuntu wouldn't load
[12:39] <chamberlain> why use vlc though?  totem-xine is nicer
[12:39] <ksky_>
[12:39] <chamberlain> in my opinion
[12:39] <Black^Dragon> ok Hasrat_USA  now I'm on the ubuntu box, useing xchat
[12:39] <ingrix> chamberlain: I agree, except I like the xineui the best
[12:39] <MybEvil_> I could only type in the HUGE terminal thing
[12:39] <chamberlain> im not a fan of xineui
[12:40] <gravemind> anybody know where the guide is to get video hardware acceleration?
[12:40] <chamberlain> totem is simpler
[12:40] <PriceChild> !nvidia | gravemind
[12:40] <ubotu> gravemind: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <HP_Vue> sudo apt-get cow
[12:40] <gravemind> VLC is more compatible
[12:40] <ingrix> chamberlain: Yeah.  I guess I am just one for liking flexibility ;)
[12:40] <chamberlain> lol ingrix
[12:40] <chamberlain> if its simple i like it
[12:40] <Kresjah> I know this may sound as a very odd question
[12:40] <chamberlain> like gnome vs kde
[12:40] <gravemind> MybEvil: assuming you have an nvidia card, try that link
[12:40] <ksky_> #ubuntu-cn
[12:40] <gravemind> or ati
[12:40] <ingrix> chamberlain: Kind of.  Oddly enough though, I like gnome much better than KDE
[12:41] <Hasrat_USA> speaking of totem, i have just opened totem and launched a video but i couldn't see anything that can let me change the brightness and contrast, whereas in VLC i can modify the video in many ways during its runtime
[12:41] <chamberlain> same
[12:41] <Xerroz> how can i build an ubuntu base with full debugging symbols?
[12:41] <Hasrat_USA> welcome back Black^Dragon
[12:41] <lufis> Is it true Feisty will be replacing ESD with pulseaudio?
[12:41] <Kresjah> But does any of you happen to have a working kernel module for the mesa mach64 (mach64.ko) from mesa 6.5.1 or 6.5.2?
[12:41] <chamberlain> i dont need features like that hasrat_usa
[12:41] <Black^Dragon> thank you Hasrat_USA
[12:41] <Kazuhiro> So any one know of any australian feisty mirrors?
[12:41] <PriceChild> lufis, not afaik
[12:41] <Hasrat_USA> Black^Dragon: at first open up your console and type sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <Hasrat_USA> then sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[12:42] <Black^Dragon> main reason I don't use ubuntu so much is my lack of router connections Hasrat_USA
[12:42] <lufis> PriceChild: oh, well update manager just asked me to update the pulseaudio library and this is a clean install of feisty
[12:42] <PriceChild> Kazuhiro, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> Black^Dragon: lack of router connections?
[12:42] <PriceChild> lufis, I doubt its a "replacement"... head to #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:42] <Hasrat_USA> i aint got no router i'm a home user using a highspeed cable connection 9 MBPS from Time warner cable lol so i don't know much about routers, nor is it supported by my ISP.
[12:42] <lufis> PriceChild: ok
[12:43] <Black^Dragon> only four connections IndyGunFreak , and this is #5
[12:43] <chamberlain> hasrat, who needs it to be supported, just plug it in!
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> Black^Dragon: ok.. i follow now..
[12:43] <Kazuhiro> PriceChild, there are no fiesty download links on that page
[12:43] <Ademan> wtf? syslogd took over a terminal i left up overnight, what the heck is that about?
[12:43] <lightseed> anyone know where i can get a blender 2.43 package for edgy?
[12:43] <Hasrat_USA> last year i tried to use a router to share connection between my PC and laptop but messed up things prerry much, called time warner cable and they scolded me lol in a mild and indirect way and told me to remove router
[12:43] <Black^Dragon> I tried setting this up wirelss IndyGunFreak , was a complete failure lol
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> Hasrat_USA: tats pretty risky if you ask me, any always on connection shoudl be behind a hardware firewall/router
[12:43] <PriceChild> Kazuhiro, Oh sorry you want feisty? afaik there are no mirrors... just use the standard ones
[12:43] <PriceChild> Kazuhiro, "official" mirrors at least
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> Black^Dragon: yea, wireless isn't easy under Linux
[12:43] <chamberlain> i use a wireless router, couldnt live without it
[12:44] <chamberlain> wireless is simple with ndiswrapper
[12:44] <Black^Dragon> I work for my isp Hasrat_USA , Charter communications, and they say they don't support it either
[12:44] <gravemind> chamberlain: assuming you have a compatible card...
[12:44] <chamberlain> ive used it on 2 different cards, and it worked automatically with ndiswrapper
[12:44] <vigrid> hello, i have problems with installing my wireless card (broadcom 4319) on my laptop. could anyone help me?
[12:44] <Black^Dragon> but you just plug one in, and it works
[12:44] <Kazuhiro> PriceChild, yeah none of them seem to have feisty on them
[12:44] <vox754> !43xx
[12:44] <ubotu> Broadcom 43xx driver info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[12:44] <vigrid> thx vox754
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: isn't that what most wireless chipsets are?.. the broadcom?
[12:45] <chamberlain> ndiswrapper really is simple though, in my opinion
[12:45] <MybEvil_> gravemind, I don't believe I have the right card
[12:45] <gravemind> MybEvil: what card do you have?
[12:45] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, I think so. A lot of people with Laptops I guess.
[12:45] <MybEvil_> how would I find out?
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> chamberlain: i don't know, i see a lot of requests in here for wireless help
[12:45] <Hasrat_USA> IndyGunFreak: and i thought (and also read in one of those ubuntu wikis) that ubuntu does't necessarily require a firewall since access to the system is blocked by default and that it comes with its own security policies and since i'm running the latest 6.20 edgy eft many of the security problems has been fixed and i have updated my system and downloaded necessary patches right after installation
[12:46] <gravemind> MybEvil_: try "lspci"
[12:46] <chamberlain> especially with ndisgtk
[12:46] <redguy> !generic
[12:46] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> well, to my knowledge edgy is still 6.10, but i still find it silly to use an always on connection w/o a router/firewall
[12:46] <MybEvil_> lol;
[12:46] <chamberlain> indygunfreak, a lot of people also dont know how to setup multimedia, doesnt mean its hard
[12:46] <MybEvil_> what part of that is my card? :P
[12:46] <gravemind> MybEvil_: actually, I don't know if that will work...
[12:46] <redguy> is there a place where ubuntu kernel package flavours are explained?
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> chamberlain: touche'
[12:46] <chamberlain> thanks
[12:46] <Black^Dragon> ok Hasrat_USA  it's in the process
[12:47] <chamberlain> ive answered it 3 times in the last hour and  ahalf
[12:47] <gopnik> hello
[12:47] <MybEvil_> gravemind, this is what it says: http://pastebin.ca/372336
[12:47] <chamberlain> hello gopnik
[12:47] <Hasrat_USA> good luck dragon. observe the process carefully to see if it gives you any error message.
[12:47] <coredata> Hi
[12:47] <chamberlain> hello coredata
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> chamberlain: but multimedia, if you read any wiki/instructional, hell if you just search google, you'll get the instrucvtions
[12:47] <chamberlain> same with ndiswrapper, though
[12:47] <Kresjah> But does any of you happen to have a working kernel module for the mesa mach64 (mach64.ko) from mesa 6.5.1 or 6.5.2?
[12:47] <gravemind> anybody: how do you find out what type of graphics card you have? Short of opening the box
[12:47] <gopnik> it's seems the players could not play media from directly from remote source , ex local area connection
[12:47] <coredata> not sure
[12:48] <chamberlain> lspci will tell you gravemind
[12:48] <Black^Dragon> it did Hasrat_USA , couldn't find desktop
[12:48] <onlybui> anyone know if I need to install alternate to get mythtv to work?
[12:48] <Hasrat_USA> if everything goes right, dragon, the word 'kde' would appear in your session list when you log off and try to log back on. KDE will change your linux experience that's for sure
[12:48] <gopnik> anyone know something about this
[12:48] <Hasrat_USA> what exactly do you mean by 'couldn't find desktop'
[12:48] <chamberlain> onlybui, you can install mythtv easily in any setup
[12:48] <gopnik> i mean the .avi
[12:48] <gopnik> ohhh
[12:48] <gopnik> :))
[12:48] <MybEvil_> How could I find out what graphics card I have, w/o looking in the laptop?
[12:48] <MybEvil_> lol
[12:48] <onlybui> im getting depend errors :( for mythtv setup
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> i still don't know how anyone uses KDE
[12:48] <gopnik> noboby understand
[12:48] <Hasrat_USA> din't you type sudo apt-get update first?
[12:48] <carolyn_> hi guys, i have kind of a nooob question for yas
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> gopnik: what about avi?
[12:48] <chamberlain> lspci, like weve said a lot, mybevil
[12:49] <eck> MybEvil_: lspci, dmesg, lots of ways
[12:49] <MybEvil_> http://pastebin.ca/372336
[12:49] <Hasrat_USA> you mean you don't like KDE indy? :P
[12:49] <chamberlain> ditto, indygunfreak
[12:49] <eck> probably also reported by xorg
[12:49] <MybEvil_> that's what lspci said
[12:49] <carolyn_> how do you open a .sh file?
[12:49] <akao> MybEvil_ do you have brand/model of the laptop
[12:49] <MybEvil_> Toshiba Satellite I think lol
[12:49] <eck> ugh
[12:49] <eck> how can you use kde?
[12:49] <gravemind> MybEvil_: looks like you have an ATI card. Try following the instructions for ATI on that page... I've never used ATI, though, so I can't really help
[12:49] <chamberlain> its ati of some sort
[12:49] <MybEvil_> k
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> i'd rather learn CLI than use KDE
[12:49] <gopnik> IndyGunFreak i'm trying to play remote media .avi and the players could not play, but local .avi can play
[12:49] <chamberlain> hahah indygunfreak
[12:50] <Black^Dragon> yes Hasrat_USA , but it says E: Couldn't find package desktop Hasrat_USA
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> xfce is ok
[12:50] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, I like KDE, I think it is fresh. However with Ubuntu I use GNOME because I don't want to install things, just work right away.
[12:50] <chamberlain> xfce is simple like gnome, which i like
[12:50] <gravemind> I heard rumors that KDE crashes all the time and kills babies
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> kde looks like something my nephew scribbled on a notepad
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: i don't know about the kill babies part..lol
[12:50] <chamberlain> hahaha kde is really rediculous
[12:50] <feryana_> hi
[12:50] <chamberlain> hello feryana
[12:51] <Daveyboy> hey
[12:51] <MybEvil_> Any chance this will screw up my Ubuntu? lol
[12:51] <carolyn_> hey guys, i have an 'easy question' for you, how do you open a .sh file?
[12:51] <Hasrat_USA> kde hasn't crashed on me yet. i have been running KDE for almost 23 and half hours only to check out its stability
[12:51] <eck> carolyn_: vi :-)
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> MybEvil_: what?
[12:51] <onlybui> ./name.sh
[12:51] <chamberlain> carolyn, do you want to edit it or run it
[12:51] <carolyn_> run it
[12:51] <MybEvil_> The graphics thing
[12:51] <chamberlain> then ./file.sh
[12:51] <eck> run it with bash
[12:51] <feryana_> why can't I copy the file .evolution to a cd or a flash drive to copy it to other pc? it gives me errors the whole time
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> MybEvil_: what graphics thing/
[12:51] <chamberlain> or sh file.sh
[12:51] <eck> e.g. bash foo.sh
[12:51] <Hasrat_USA> but you have to take it into your consideration that i'm on an AMD Athlon dual core 64 bit 3800+ with a GB of DDR RAM
[12:51] <carolyn_> i'll give it a shot
[12:51] <SpAwN> kde has never totaly crashed on me in over 3 years.
[12:52] <Hasrat_USA> dragon ummm
[12:52] <chamberlain> its ugly though, spawn
[12:52] <MybEvil_>  hardware accelleration
[12:52] <Hasrat_USA> way to go SpAwN:)
[12:52] <SpAwN> chamberlain, to each there own
[12:52] <feryana> I opened it double lol
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> SpAwN: i do agree with that KDE is probably just as stable4 as Gnome(maybe a little slower)
[12:52] <feryana> why can't I copy the file .evolution to a cd or a flash drive to copy it to other pc? it gives me errors the whole time
[12:52] <chamberlain> i suppose, spawn
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> i've never had problems with any of the GUI's
[12:52] <SpAwN> i just hate gnome with a passion.
[12:52] <bruenig> feryana, those errors being?
[12:52] <onlybui> anyone know how to change my download for mythtv using synaptic?
[12:52] <MybEvil_> IndyGunFreak: hardware accelleration
[12:52] <Black^Dragon> wonder if it will be available if I restart Hasrat_USA ??
[12:52] <chamberlain> why do you need to copy feryana?
[12:52] <gopnik> the error is: there is no input plugin available at this time to handle smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/film.avi Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exists
[12:52] <SpAwN> but i dont use either gnome or kde.
[12:52] <eck> well i hate kde with a passion, so there you go :-)
[12:52] <chamberlain> copy .evolution i mean
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> MybEvil_: i never had much luck with it... YMMV
[12:52] <Hasrat_USA> dragon yes let's do that and run the commands again
[12:52] <l2s> any ubuntu admins avail for a freelance gig?
[12:52] <eck> kde is like gnome, but has a worse ui and worse apps
[12:53] <MybEvil_> YMMV?
[12:53] <feryana> Error "Invalid parameters" while copying "/home/fery..._P1_08.jpg".
[12:53] <HolyGoat> Any firewall/iptables helper application you guys prefer?
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> MybEvil_: you're mileage may vary
[12:53] <SpAwN> eck, see i use way more kde apps then gnome apps...
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> actually, should be your
[12:53] <MybEvil_> I tried it once
[12:53] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, I think KDE started before GNOME but now they can be considered parallel.
[12:53] <feryana> chamberlin to transfer my mail filters and folders to other evolution
[12:53] <akao> i doubt either KDE or Gnome warrant enough passion to hate either
[12:53] <MybEvil_> and I couldn't use the graphics part of ubuntu
[12:53] <SpAwN> and i prefer the stylings of kde over gnome.
[12:53] <carolyn_> it worked guys, thanks a lot
[12:53] <chamberlain> what are you trying to do, feryana?
[12:53] <Hasrat_USA> dragon hold on
[12:53] <chamberlain> no problem carolyn
[12:53] <Hasrat_USA> are you still here?
[12:53] <feryana> chamberlain to transfer my mail filters and folders to other evolution
[12:53] <MybEvil_> only the big terminal part lol
[12:53] <MybEvil_> I just reinstalled it from the live CD
[12:53] <MybEvil_> when that hapend
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: yeah, i'm pretty sure KDE was first
[12:53] <puff> Evening, anybody good with ipods, gtkpod, amarok?
[12:53] <chamberlain> ok feryana, maybe try it as root?  dont really know
[12:53] <Black^Dragon> ok, will give it a try, brb
[12:54] <chamberlain> puff, i use gtkpod
[12:54] <akao> sorry puff
[12:54] <overcl0ck> Control Center --> "Appearance & Themes" ---> Select "Splash Screen" ---> Click "Add..." ---> Browse for the downloaded file... when I try to browse the file there is no file there, but if I look inside the directory the splash file is there, can u help me please??
[12:54] <SpAwN> puff, gtkpod works very good for me...i have a 5th gen ipod
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> Enlightenment, is another GUI i can't figure out
[12:54] <puff> amarok and gtkpod are fighting over my ipod, I'm about ready to give up and reformat it.
[12:54] <chamberlain> are you using feisty, overclock?
[12:54] <SkippyX> Wow - many differences between Edgy & Breezy
[12:54] <puff> I have an 8gb ipod nano.
[12:54] <SkippyX> Man.
[12:54] <Hasrat_USA> oh crap dragon left
[12:54] <puff> I'm on ubuntu dapper.
[12:54] <overcl0ck> chamberlain,  yes I am
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> puff, that woul be silly
[12:54] <GMWeezel> How can I uninstall libsound2 without killing everything that uses it so I can compile a newer version?
[12:54] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, by the way, totally offtopic. Do you know if it is possible to use GIMP to make circles and basic paint stuff. I can't do a thing!
[12:54] <Hasrat_USA> i have 30 GB ipod but i think the girl i slept with last month stole it :(
[12:54] <chamberlain> there is a specific irc for feisty, #ubuntu+1 i think
[12:55] <SpAwN> vox754, gimp will do that and ALOT more
[12:55] <SkippyX> Is this a help channel? Its the default login for XChat
[12:55] <Hasrat_USA> there are lots of problems when you mingle with poor girls
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: hmm, i don't know... i usually only use it for resizing digital photos i take.
[12:55] <daviey> SkippyX, yes
[12:55] <chamberlain> yupp it is skippyx
[12:55] <chamberlain> whats the problem?
[12:55] <eck> all of the qt apps are kde specific
[12:55] <l2s> chamberlain do you know where to get a freelance ubuntu admin for a small freelance gig?
[12:55] <puff> I was using gtkpod, used it to set up my nano, it's the latest model nano so it has tht encrypted firmware crap, so I've never managed to get playlists set up.
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: isn't KPaint a program more like MS Paint.. mayube thats what you want?
[12:55] <Xerroz> how do you build an ubuntu base from scratch?
[12:56] <SkippyX> OK - kewl. No problems yet. Just finished a fresh install (edgy) on a friend's machine. I use Breezy at home and I'm surprised at some of the differences.
[12:56] <vox754> SpAwN, IndyGunFreak, Yeah, something like trimming and cropping, but circles? where are the circles?!
[12:56] <ardchoille> vox754: I can say that gimp is quite powerful: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[12:56] <chamberlain> l2s, where do you live?  you might be able to find someone by telling them where :P
[12:56] <Hagane> vox754 how do I uninstall a driver in ubuntu
[12:56] <SkippyX> Gotta configure this thing - and that'll take the better part of the night.
[12:56] <l2s> ah
[12:56] <l2s> los angeles
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: what about KPaint?
[12:56] <l2s> but remote is fine as well
[12:56] <puff> So I eventually tried amarok, which still didn't work for playlists, but I kept using it for putting sogns onto/off of my nano.
[12:56] <visik7> anyone got linux deleted by vista ?
[12:56] <vox754> Hagane, which driver. I guess you don't have to, just don't "load" it.
[12:56] <chamberlain> what are you doing l2s?
[12:56] <l2s> setting up a fresh ubuntu box as a server for rails and php
[12:57] <llol> does  anyone here have some experience in setting up raid?
[12:57] <chamberlain> but what do you need an admin for?
[12:57] <l2s> there is a big bug in ubuntu server so that wont install on this dell
[12:57] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, for GNOME KPaint? I just want to make a big nice round red circle !!!
[12:57] <Hagane> vox754 my wifi driver.. blacklisting it didnt work.. im still connected to the intarweb
[12:57] <l2s> setting up teh box chamberlain
[12:57] <llol> i followed the steps on a setup and i get grub error 17
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: you can still install Kpaint.. just search it in the repos.
[12:57] <Hagane> vox754 how do I unload?
[12:57] <chamberlain> you probably wont be able to find someone to come do if for you, unfortunately l2s
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: i'm not sure, there has to be a way to make a circle in Gimp,
[12:58] <puff> And now something weird seems to be going on with amarok, where it can't seem to remove files from the ipod.
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> you could try gimp tutorials
[12:58] <llol> if my sata drive has the /boot    /dev/sda1
[12:58] <vox754> Hagane, "sudo modprobe -r <modulename>" or "sudo rmmod <module>"
[12:58] <chamberlain> try openoffice draw for that kind of stuff
[12:58] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, circles!!!
[12:58] <llol> how is it supposed to be in the menu.lst?
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: hold on, i'm checking Kpaint
[12:59] <phewl> hey is there another mirror for automatix because it wont connect for me
[12:59] <AMD-> hi
[12:59] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[12:59] <chamberlain> i wouldnt reccomend automatix at all, phewl
[12:59] <phewl> why
[12:59] <akao> Is there a place to download ms fonts other than automatix?
[12:59] <phewl> its worked many a time before for me
[12:59] <ardchoille> !automatix | phewl
[12:59] <ubotu> phewl: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:59] <chamberlain> its not very well made, in my opinion
[01:00] <puff> l2s:  Setting up php should be ridiculously straightforward, rails Idaknow about, I took a quick look a few months ago but it wasn't immediately obvious and I didn't have any time to read up on it.
[01:00] <l2s> ill try somewhere else thanks
[01:00] <Hasrat_USA> automatix can automatixalky phuckomatix your OS phewl
[01:00] <puff> l2s:  You might be better off asking in a) #apache, b) #ruby
[01:00] <kupesoft> akao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Microsoft%20Fonts
[01:00] <phewl> haha
[01:00] <l2s> puff i just want it done right and secure
[01:00] <puff> l2s: Yeah, I know the feeling.  Hm, LA.
[01:00] <phewl> is there another script like it or just the old fasioned way:)?
[01:00] <akao> kupesoft: thanks
[01:00] <l2s> ill post to the job boards maybe that will help
[01:00] <puff> I know some LA geeks but they're not online right now.
[01:00] <chamberlain> phewl, there are lots of tutorials, check out http://www.ubuntuguide.org it will explain how to do most things
[01:01] <ph03n1xs74r> how can i get started in the documents of ubuntu?
[01:01] <Hagane> vox754 does that unload it once or forever?
[01:01] <chamberlain> documents?
[01:01] <SkippyX> OK - if automatix risks breaking things....and easyubuntu risks breaking things...what todo? unofficial ubuntu starter guide?
[01:01] <Hasrat_USA> who needs stuffs like automatix or easyubuntu when we have synaptics? synaptics is like CNR (click N Run)
[01:01] <ph03n1xs74r> (i want to help in the doc books)
[01:01] <Hagane> vox754 how do i reload if i need to?
[01:01] <jrib> SkippyX: there is official documentation too at help.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <SkippyX> And the wiki?
[01:01] <chamberlain> ubuntuguide.org is very reliable, it shoudlnt be unofficial
[01:01] <vox754> Hagane, once. You need it again "sudo modprobe <module>"
[01:01] <MybEvil_> grr
[01:01] <Hasrat_USA> i'm back to AntiTrust
[01:02] <AMD-> jrib: how do i get to that channel
[01:02] <MybEvil_> what was that site for Hardware Acceleration again?
[01:02] <skirk> I write in Session a bad command and now i cant start on GNOME, did you know a file about this...can I change with terminal?
[01:02] <acid_phyre> does anyone know a good program to copy personal dvds?
[01:02] <MybEvil_> I had to restart
[01:02] <AMD-> #ubuntu what ?
[01:02] <jrib> AMD-: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[01:02] <puff> SpAwN, chamberlain, IndyGunFreak, any suggestions?
[01:02] <Hagane> vox754 thanks
[01:02] <sgentry6> hardware question:I have a Netgear WG111US (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111).  lspci does not show it in the list, yet dmesg shows all of my actions (/etc/init.d/networking restart), unplugging, plugging in, etc...  I'm still having trouble connecting to my access point, WEP is on, and dhcp is working to all the other devices, but not for this one, can anyone help
[01:02] <AMD-> thanks
[01:02] <chamberlain> whats the question puff?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> puff: ?
[01:02] <l2s> btw there is a bad bug in ubuntu server - goes haywire on dell perc 2
[01:02] <reuben> ingrix you there?
[01:02] <phewl> and i got another question, why doesn't ubuntu recognize any of my other two drives, one a linux partition adn the other windows, it only shows this ubuntu drive
[01:02] <l2s> edgy desktop installs but server goes bananas
[01:03] <puff> chamberlain:  Well, amarok  doesn't seem to be able to delete files from my ipod.
[01:03] <phewl> er nvm
[01:03] <phewl> figured it out
[01:03] <skirk> I write in Session a bad command and now i cant start on GNOME, did you know a file about this...can I change with terminal?
[01:03] <vox754> Hagane, all modules are loaded on startup, so If you blacklist it, it won't load. I hope I'm not confusing you.
[01:03] <chamberlain> sgentry, is it installed in ubuntu yet?>
[01:03] <tony__> hello
[01:03] <acid_phyre> does anyone know a good program for copting personal dvds?
[01:03] <Cooner750_> Hello
[01:03] <sgentry6> chamberlain: not positive (I can run iwconfig and see it that way (wlan0)), so I would assume yes
[01:04] <Cooner750_> I am running in the LiveCD and trying to install Ubuntu to an external hard disk, USB
[01:04] <ph03n1xs74r> gpg code... i set up my gpg code, how do i verify the key?
[01:04] <reuben> question: I've downloaded the beryl tar.gz.....what now?
[01:04] <chamberlain> ok, have you gone to networking and double click on it to enable it?
[01:04] <sgentry6> it also shows in system settings: network devices
[01:04] <Shrimpy1> hello can anyone help me install the graphics card for intel so i can adjust my resolutions
[01:04] <puff> chamberlain: amarok comes up when I plug in my ipod,  when I run gtkpod it takes 20-30 minutes fixing checksums, then anything I try to do after that, it warns me that I haven't imported the itunesdb, but I see no menu option with any word resembling "import"
[01:04] <chamberlain> no idea puff, sorry
[01:04] <techi2> Can anybody compare systemrescue versus magic partition for creating partition within same hardrive for ubuntu and other os ?
[01:05] <Cooner750_> The installer failed because it said there was "an error creating the ext3" partition. Now when I double-click the Install icon, it does nothing. How can I get it to come back up? Other than restarting because that takes WAY too long.
[01:05] <lsutiger> Hey peeps
[01:05] <lsutiger> I have been haivng problems setting up wireless
[01:05] <chamberlain> hey
[01:05] <lsutiger> but I did not do an install, I ran the live cd
[01:05] <chamberlain> yes wireless, i love it
[01:05] <Shrimpy1> lsutiger: is it on your laptop
[01:05] <lsutiger> yes
[01:05] <chamberlain> you cannot set it up off the live cd
[01:05] <Agent_007> hello!
[01:05] <reuben> help with installing a package please
[01:05] <lsutiger> ahh
[01:05] <Agent_007> i have a q
[01:06] <chamberlain> reuben, go
[01:06] <reuben> question: I've downloaded the beryl tar.gz.....what now?
[01:06] <chamberlain> and 007
[01:06] <ph03n1xs74r> REUBEN... im trying to help u in your own chat
[01:06] <Agent_007> i can't player remove media files !
[01:06] <chamberlain> you can install beryl from a deb
[01:06] <Agent_007> remote
[01:06] <reuben> got it
[01:06] <sgentry6> chamberlain: yes it is enabled
[01:06] <chamberlain> refraise the question, 007
[01:06] <lsutiger> also where can I get a comprehensive list of commands for terminal?
[01:06] <Shrimpy1> hell crimsun
[01:06] <Agent_007> i can't play remote media players !
[01:06] <Linux_Junkie> man bash
[01:06] <LordUltimaDavid> does "envy" work with nvidia geforce 4s?
[01:06] <Linux_Junkie> lsutiger, man bash
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: tkpaint makes perfect circles..lol
[01:06] <Cooner750_> Is there any way that I can force the Installer to reopen? Or do I have to wait 5 minutes for this reboot again?
[01:06] <chamberlain> 007, like on the internet?
[01:06] <ardchoille> !command
[01:06] <Hasrat_USA> david yes
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <MybEvil_> What was the site for the tutorial for setting up the 'glxinfo | grep rendering' thing?
[01:07] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, damn you GIMP.
[01:07] <Agent_007> chamberlain, like on local area connection !
[01:07] <MybEvil_> Make it not say no
[01:07] <lsutiger> so in terminal type 'man bash'?
[01:07] <chamberlain> can you play local files, 007?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: did you get your resolution problem fixed?
[01:07] <ph03n1xs74r> reuben... go to channel ph03n1xs74r
[01:07] <Linux_Junkie> lsutiger, yeah.
[01:07] <ph03n1xs74r> and i will help u
[01:07] <lsutiger> thanx!
[01:07] <Agent_007> chamberlain, yes!
[01:07] <lsutiger> Once I get it installed, I'll be back
[01:07] <chamberlain> well how are you trying to play them?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: lol
[01:07] <Cooner750_> As usual I get ignored here
[01:08] <MybEvil_> What was the site for the tutorial for setting up the 'glxinfo | grep rendering' thing?
[01:08] <lsutiger> ummm...IRC program for linux?
[01:08] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i did the xserver thinkgy and i messed it up really bad. got fustrated and re-intstalled ubuntu
[01:08] <chamberlain> sorry cooner a lot of people need help
[01:08] <chamberlain> ircii will do, lsutiger
[01:08] <MybEvil_> To make it say yes, instead of no
[01:08] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: mind helping me out kinda step by step?
[01:08] <lsutiger> ok I'll google it
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: wow.. how'd you mess i tup that bad?
[01:08] <lsutiger> thanx!
[01:08] <chamberlain> no problem
[01:08] <skirk> I have a problem with "Session", I have add a command in startup GNOME, but now GNOME dont start...how I can fix it????
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: did i send you that xserver instruction earlier?
[01:08] <ardchoille> HolyGoat: Same here :)
[01:08] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: People probably just don't know the answer.
[01:08] <jwatt> hi
[01:09] <chamberlain> hey
[01:09] <HolyGoat> ardchoille :)
[01:09] <puff> chamberlain:  How do you normally "import the itunesdb" in gtkpod?
[01:09] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yes you did.   but it said incorrect information and would go to a black screen with a blinking cursor.   could not type commands
[01:09] <Agent_007> linux revolution become true!
[01:09] <chamberlain> it should do it automatically
[01:09] <chamberlain> puff
[01:09] <jwatt> from a quick look at ubuntu.com it's not immediately clear where to find the name of particular maintainers
[01:09] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: You are trying to install ubuntu onto an external usb disk. It couldn't create the ext3 filesystem and now its bjorked. Right?
[01:09] <jwatt> is there a page for that?
[01:09] <skirk> I have a problem with "Session", I have add a command in startup GNOME, but now GNOME dont start...how I can fix it????
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: sorry, as you can see by the thread i sent you, it worked perfectly for me
[01:09] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: The install program will not start again
[01:09] <Mangix> what's the Linux equivelent to ctrl + alt + delete?
[01:09] <quaal> does anyone know how to set firefox to open thunderbird email when you click on an email address
[01:09] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: Right.
[01:10] <Mangix> i got a program that i can't kill
[01:10] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: can you send it once again?
[01:10] <Cooner750_> Unless I restart, which takes way too long for a LiveCD
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: are you still stuck in 640x480?
[01:10] <MybEvil_> What was the site for the tutorial for setting up the 'glxinfo | grep rendering' thing, making it say 'yes' insetead of 'no'?
[01:10] <chamberlain> there isnt on mangix, go to system>administration>system monitor
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: i can, but i don't want you to get screwed trwice..lol
[01:10] <Shrimpy1> no its 1024x780
[01:10] <jwatt> I'd like to make contact with the firefox maintainer in particular
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: so whats the prob?
[01:10] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: So can you possibly swap the external drive into the machine to do the install or are you trying to make a USB external drive version of ubuntu?
[01:10] <ph03n1xs74r> i need help verifying my gpg key
[01:10] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i can't chage the resolution to fit my screen (1280x800)
[01:11] <Mangix> i can't kill it
[01:11] <Cooner750_> Does Ubuntu support running from an external USB drive or not?
[01:11] <Cooner750_> Debian does.
[01:11] <profoX`> I am looking for the official (if there is one) packaging guide to package Ubuntu packages? (cq the "right way" to do it, not checkinstall)
[01:11] <chamberlain> why not
[01:11] <Mangix> nvm
[01:11] <Mangix> i did
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: i see
[01:11] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: so everything is big and goofy
[01:11] <chamberlain> ok mangix
[01:11] <Mangix> ty
[01:11] <vox754> Cooner750_, it does, you need a BIOS that boots on USB.
[01:11] <Mangix> also
[01:11] <chamberlain> np
[01:11] <rkyraccoon55> !sound
[01:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:11] <Mangix> where is the GRUB conf file located?
[01:11] <profoX`> Cooner750_: yes Ubuntu should support that, I haven't tried it myself though, but I don't see why not
[01:11] <Cooner750_> Erm.... Then how does Debian work just using GRUB, booting from a USB drive?
[01:12] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i think if yo send that forum i am going to look at it and see what i did wrong
[01:12] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: Your BIOS needs to be able to look to the external drive...
[01:12] <chamberlain> whats the problem, it wont enter
[01:12] <bruenig> Mangix, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:12] <Mangix> ty
[01:12] <chamberlain> i kept typing /boot/grub/menu.lst and it wouldnt send
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: hang on, i'll find you the link agian
[01:12] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: Apparently it can, because Debian (Which I know Ubuntu is based on) can boot from USB
[01:12] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: Otherwise you need a boot disk to then point it at the usb drive
[01:12] <Agent_007> ubuntu blow the bit !
[01:12] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[01:12] <MybEvil_> Can someone point me to seting up Hardware Acceleration, with a ATI graphics card?
[01:12] <nanotube> why my PAM modules works differently for terminal login and for gdm login?
[01:13] <Cooner750_> I cannot get GParted to unmount a fat32 partition on the external drive
[01:13] <puff> chamberlain: Okay, any suggestions on reformatting my nano, starting from scratch?
[01:13] <chamberlain> windows
[01:13] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: YES. With an enabled BIOS (or a boot disk). It's not run by magic fairies.
[01:13] <djmccormick> i have a tutorial probably not written for ubuntu specifically and it's asking me to do: chmod g+wS
[01:13] <chamberlain> i dont think you can format them in linux, unfortunately
[01:13] <djmccormick> what is the equivalent with ubuntu's setup?
[01:13] <chamberlain> youll need itunes
[01:13] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: If the machine you want to boot the USB drive has grub installed then that's also fine.
[01:13] <reuben> sorry dropped connetion
[01:13] <Cooner750_> I figured this version of Ubuntu would be better, but it's still the same as every other version
[01:14] <Cooner750_> Installer still wont start
[01:14] <chamberlain> cooner theres a lot of features you cant see
[01:14] <chamberlain> or maybe you dont use
[01:14] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: If it's some random windows machine that's 4 years old without the BOOT OPTION: USB/Other Device then probably not.
[01:14] <reuben> help regarding beryl install
[01:14] <Mangix> !sound
[01:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:14] <rkyraccoon55> im having sound problems and the "ubotu" bot isnt helping.  Can anyone help me out
[01:14] <chamberlain> ok, is ubotu automatic?
[01:15] <chamberlain> wow it is
[01:15] <Shrimpy1> just throwing this out there ubuntu is amazing with support and if people knew about their support survice then it would make everybody look bad
[01:15] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: I already told you that this machine can boot from USB
[01:15] <chamberlain> lol shrimpy
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1:    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=495248
[01:15] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> you can try it again
[01:15] <quaal> does anyone know how to set firefox to open thunderbird email when you click on an email address
[01:15] <carolyn_> hi guys, i'm back with another question, i have a portable hard drive plugged in, and it wont let me put any files on it because it says its read only :(?!
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jus tdo so at your own peril
[01:15] <chamberlain> carolyn, is it formatted with ntfs?
[01:15] <profoX`> !tell rkyraccoon55 ask
[01:15] <carolyn_> um
[01:15] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: Can you just physically install the USB drive into any machine so as to get it installed?
[01:16] <carolyn_> i dunno
[01:16] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yeah i'm going to no command anything
[01:16] <chamberlain> carolyn, did you format it in windows xp?
[01:16] <profoX`> err..
[01:16] <profoX`> !ask
[01:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <rkyraccoon55> Profox: i went to the links provided by ubotu and it didnt help my problem
[01:16] <carolyn_> well, its an older one of my dads i grabbed outta the basement, so i dont know
[01:16] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: Without log files on why the ext3 filesystem couldn't be written I can't really help you.
[01:16] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: Er... this is not an internal drive inside an enclosure
[01:16] <ardchoille> quaal: That is usually set when you set your default email client. Open System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications and see what's in the Mail reader command box.
[01:16] <chamberlain> carolyn, it is possible that it is ntfs, with whcih linux only has read support
[01:16] <GMWeezel> How can I uninstall a package and make apt believe it is still there so I don't remove the apps that use it?
[01:16] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: What is it then?
[01:16] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yeah i'm going to not cgoing to do that because i get retareed and just hit enter
[01:17] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: USB Stick?
[01:17] <carolyn_> so, how would i reformat it to something usable?
[01:17] <reuben> chamberlain regarding the beryl install...i need some help
[01:17] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: yes, but how can we help you if you don't tell which problem you are having, or if you already said it, can you repeat, because i didn't read it
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: lol
[01:17] <walrus> hello, where do i find some g++ compiler reference, specially on compile errors
[01:17] <walrus> ??
[01:17] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: A store bought Western Digital 120GB USB 2.0 harddisk.
[01:17] <chamberlain> go to system>administration>partition i think
[01:17] <jrib> walrus: man g++   ?
[01:17] <rkyraccoon55> profox: oh sorry, Sound is not comin out when i play music or anything
[01:17] <carolyn_> k...
[01:17] <chamberlain> and i dont know bout beryl, reuben, sorry
[01:18] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: One of the ones with the pretty enclosure and the 'single touch backup' button?
[01:18] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: hey, i have an xconfig file that my friend sent me (which had the same problem) and before he just switched them or changed something. know anything babout that
[01:18] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: and is the sound just not coming out of your speakers, or do you also get an error...... does the screen say your music is playing?
[01:18] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: Actually this one is a few years old. No one touch backup
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: no clue
[01:18] <rkyraccoon55> Profox: i have a Creative Labs SOund Blaster Audigy 2 value
[01:18] <jrib> walrus: the people at ##c++ may have better suggestions
[01:18] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak:
[01:18] <carolyn_> yea, there isnt any partition button....
[01:18] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: ok thanks anyways
[01:18] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: But same deal. You can't remove it from the enclosure?
[01:18] <Daveyboy[A] > any idea why i whne i go to "localhost/phpmyadmin" it prompts me to specify which program to open the phtml file in?
[01:18] <reuben> chamberlain how do i install a downloaded package ...it's in tar.gz form.....i'm absolutely new at linux
[01:18] <rkyraccoon55> Profox': I get no error, the music is playing, just no sound
[01:18] <walrus> jrib, oh thx :):) sorry btw ...
[01:18] <chamberlain> carolyn, im on windows, cant remember the name
[01:18] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: know anything else i can try?
[01:19] <rkyraccoon55> Profox': on my windows hd the sound works fine
[01:19] <chamberlain> look around it might be gparted
[01:19] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: Considering there's other stuff on there I wouldnt particularly want to risk it
[01:19] <d4d4d4d4> when i try to launch full screen apps my screen is split in two how can i fix it please?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: other than manually making your icons smaller?..lol
[01:19] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: well, first check alsamixer to see if nothing is Muted and if all sliders are open
[01:19] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: ?
[01:19] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: that might take a while
[01:19] <chamberlain> reuben, follow the tutorial at http://www.ubuntuguide.org, it installs them from .deb which is easier
[01:19] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: but it made me laugh!
[01:19] <rkyraccoon55> profox': i did that, everything is good
[01:19] <reuben> ok
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: what time of video card do you have again?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: it did me to..lol
[01:19] <carolyn_> hrm.. well, that doesnt help me much does it chamberlain
[01:19] <GionnyBoss> I added an application in System -> Preference -> Sessions, but now GNOME doesn't start anymore. Where can I find the configuration file to fix it, please?
[01:20] <chamberlain> one sec ill dig up a screenshot
[01:20] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: and do you hear other sounds? (in other audio players, with other audio files...)
[01:20] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: its an intel express graphics
[01:20] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: I just asked you about the drive. You are telling me that you don't want to risk the data on the drive even though you just tryed installing to it? Did you run a partitioner on the drive?
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> hmm,
[01:20] <Black^Dragon> well that didn't work
[01:20] <quaal> ardchoille, thanks that was it
[01:20] <chamberlain> oh i forgot to tell you to install gparted, carolyn
[01:20] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i'm on a dell untill i can save up and buy an IBM
[01:20] <Black^Dragon> no worries, I'll figure it out
[01:20] <chamberlain> you can do that in synaptic
[01:21] <tsb> How do you search for a file in a package? I want to find 'syncml-obex-client'
[01:21] <marco__> srv azzurra.org
[01:21] <carolyn_> ok, i'll look it up
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: build your own, you'll be happier
[01:21] <chamberlain> then it will appear in system>administration
[01:21] <Cooner750_> gyaresu: I'm trying to figure out why Ubuntu does not just use a simple Install CD like Debian does, with no X system
[01:21] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: well i do for desktops, but i am converting to laptop
[01:21] <rkyraccoon55> profox': no
[01:21] <chamberlain> cooner, it does supply an alternate cd for that reason
[01:22] <Cooner750_> Graphical installer never has worked righjt
[01:22] <Cooner750_> right
[01:22] <genii> Yes, the alternate install cd or the server cd does a cli only install
[01:22] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: and i have no clue where to start on barbone laptops
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: i see
[01:22] <gyaresu> Cooner750_: You complain about not getting help and then you just throw random statements and whinging into the channel. I'm not helping you till you go get some fresh air and come back with a healthier perspective. Sorry.
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: me either..lol
[01:22] <rkyraccoon55> profox': as far as my limited view can see everything is working well except the sound not coming out
[01:23] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i know HP computers are pretty good with linux but i like IBM becasue they are hardcore with computer
[01:23] <chamberlain> i personally use an old 866 mHz p3 :P
[01:23] <ingodonots> hi guys
[01:23] <GionnyBoss> I added an application in System -> Preference -> Sessions, but now GNOME doesn't start anymore. Where can I find the configuration file to fix it, please?
[01:23] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: can you go to System -> Preferences -> Sound, and click on the Test button in the Devices tab (the first tab, its selected by default)
[01:23] <ingodonots> i've lot of problems with cervisia
[01:24] <ingodonots> i add the repo ad i do the login (i use pserver)
[01:24] <chamberlain> hi ingodnots
[01:24] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: the two first test buttons
[01:24] <ingodonots> hi chamberlain, but when I try to do the update i get some errors
[01:24] <ingodonots> like this:
[01:24] <ingodonots> cvs checkout: CVSROOT must be an absolute pathname (not `')
[01:24] <rkyraccoon55> profox': got nothing either one
[01:24] <chamberlain> pardon, ingodonots?
[01:24] <Keyseir> How do I check what my computers IP on the LAN is?
[01:25] <chamberlain> ummm, whoami i believe
[01:25] <gyaresu> Keyseir: terminal: 'ifconfig'
[01:25] <chamberlain> no iwconfig
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: not to mention, HP is absolute junk
[01:25] <chamberlain> or ifconfig ...
[01:25] <Keyseir> gyaresu, thanks
[01:25] <ingodonots> anyone can help me with cervisia?
[01:26] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: thats pretty strange..
[01:26] <rkyraccoon55> profox': yea, i know
[01:26] <Keyseir> gyaresu, How do I tell which numbers are my local address?
[01:26] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: did you create a new user account along the way?
[01:26] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: has sound worked once?
[01:26] <rkyraccoon55> profox': no
[01:27] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: does sound work on the login screen? (you normally hear some sort of drums)
[01:27] <rkyraccoon55> profox': nope
[01:27] <gyaresu> Keyseir: something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:27] <Keyseir> gyaresu, thanks
[01:27] <b1shop> anyone have directv?  is it down?
[01:27] <gyaresu> Keyseir: Plugged in via the network cable?
[01:27] <b1shop> ot i know...
[01:28] <Frogzoo> Keyseir: talk to your netadmin - usually 10.x.x.x. 172.x.x.x & 192.168.x.x
[01:28] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: in that case the problem lies deeper than I initially thought...... your system thinks music can be played but for some reason you don't hear music... are you _sure_ every slider is at its maximum and nothing is muted?
[01:28] <gyaresu> Keyseir: inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:28] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yeah lol
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[01:28] <rkyraccoon55> yep
[01:28] <Keyseir> gyaresu, Yes. Plugged into a router via ethernet. Trying to figure out which number this machine is so I can forward some bt stuff.
[01:28] <techi1> Question. Can anybody help me on the following scenario: I have 55 gig in my windows xp with 24 gigs free. When I partition my existing computer to accomodate Ubuntu, the installer gnome editor will help me create the ubuntu partition. Here is where I get lost. Is the editor partitioning the 55 gig or the 24 gig extra space and have, and how do I insure that the extra space is the one used and not my already 31 gigs use
[01:28] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: well then I'm really out of ideas, I'm sorry....
[01:28] <Keyseir> gyaresu, I'm good now. Thanks.
[01:28] <chamberlain> techi1, have you resized the partition yet?
[01:29] <raf256> is user eagles0513875 banned?
[01:29] <gyaresu> Keyseir: You may want to set your IP statically then. Otherwise you may get a different IP next time. FYI.
[01:29] <carolyn_> ok, i got gparted installed and running, and it says it cannot find the mount point, and it wont let me repartition it at all
[01:29] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: it could be an issue of what apps are outputting to. I had that issue. make sure it's outputting to alsa or whatever you're using
[01:29] <techi1> chamberlain:not yet because of the question I just asked. Concerned about messing up
[01:29] <rkyraccoon55> profox': wait, the master isnt muted but some others are, how do you unmute =?
[01:29] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: go to system > prefs > sound and make sure
[01:29] <chamberlain> what does it say exactly carolyn?
[01:29] <profoX`> rkyraccoon55: press the M button in alsamixer
[01:29] <techi1> chamberlain:I found the gnome editor that will partition it for me but first I must highlight my 55gig
[01:30] <stutsman> OKay for those of you who remember me from yesterday: I was able to set up a dual boot situation with Windows XP on one drive and Ubunu on the other... now I'm COMPLETELY new to ubuntu and Linux... is there a way I can get ubuntu to allow me to access my windows hard drive so that I can play mp3s from that drive or access other files from that drive?
[01:30] <chamberlain> and you selected resize?
[01:30] <carolyn_> unable to find mount point, and that it is ntfs, and that there are 223 gb free
[01:30] <blackest> hurrah got mythtv setup and working with remote frontend (backend edgy ) frontend (dapper) :)
[01:30] <carolyn_> but all the options are greyed out to do anything
[01:30] <vox754> carolyn_, before I go take a look at these examples http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2340/part01sa3.png
[01:30] <techi1>  chamberlain not yet
[01:30] <rkyraccoon55> profox': still nothing
[01:30] <vox754> carolyn_, http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5581/part11lo2.png
[01:30] <techi1> what do i resize to? and what am I resizing? the 55 gig?
[01:31] <techi1> or the extra space (the 24 gig)
[01:31] <chamberlain> ok, ummm carolyn, what are your options when you right click
[01:31] <blackest> stutsman ntfs or fat32
[01:31] <vox754> techi1, look at my examples above
[01:31] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: is your soundcard using alsa?
[01:31] <stutsman> I believe the windows drive is ntfs
[01:31] <Frogzoo> techi1: please don't use the ubuntu version of gparted to resize ntfs partitions - you can lose all your data - at the very least, make sure you have a working copy of your data
[01:31] <chamberlain> and techi, you have to resize it so change the 24 extra gigs to unformatted, to create a new partition
[01:31] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: it should be
[01:31] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: did you check in sound prefs to see what it was set to?
[01:31] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: its a Sound Blaster Audigy 2
[01:32] <techi1> vox754going there to look
[01:32] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: if it's playing system sounds but not anything else it sounds like there's a config problem with gnome
[01:32] <chamberlain> frogzoo, i told him earlier to make sure he had an install disk handy
[01:32] <carolyn_> right click lets me unmount, manage flags, and information
[01:32] <chamberlain> unmount it
[01:32] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: its not playing system sounds
[01:32] <carolyn_> ok
[01:32] <chamberlain> first of all
[01:32] <blackest> well ntfs is a bit tricky and will be read only i kept windows on fat32 and the drive is automagically on my desktop
[01:32] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: no sounds at all
[01:32] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: oh, nevermind then
[01:32] <profoX`> lufis: the problem is it doesn't play _anything_ but rkyraccoon55 also doesnt get any errors... so the system Thinks everything works, while no sound is coming out of the system....
[01:33] <stutsman> There is no way for me to make it fat32 without loosing everything is there?
[01:33] <chamberlain> and now you have more options, right carolyn?
[01:33] <lufis> ah, i thought s/he said sound systems were working
[01:33] <carolyn_> one more, delete
[01:33] <stutsman> read only is ok though... that will allow me to access the files right... like play mp3s and such?
[01:33] <chamberlain> yupp, delete
[01:33] <Frogzoo> chamberlain: don't use the ubuntu live cd to resize ntfs
[01:33] <chamberlain> it
[01:33] <profoX`> stutsman: you can't convert to fat32 without losing data, no
[01:33] <carolyn_> ok
[01:33] <lovloss> hi everyone ^_^
[01:33] <chamberlain> well frogzoo i told him to use his partion cd that he said he had
[01:33] <rkyraccoon55> profox: yea\
[01:34] <profoX`> stutsman: you can read from NTFS fine
[01:34] <lovloss> Taking a break from learning about classes. :3
[01:34] <chamberlain> and carolyn, you can now create a partition in the ext3 format
[01:34] <stutsman> ok... thats all I need to do then. But for some reason it won't let me browse. I have no clue to gain access to it.
[01:34] <glen> got a question. about open office spreadsheet
[01:34] <rkyraccoon55> Lufis: should i re-install Alsa?
[01:34] <carolyn_> sweeeeet, what file system do i want to use if i want it to be usable with both linux and winders?
[01:34] <profoX`> stutsman: ntfs-3g even provides write support that is known to work well, it's in release candidate state now, so it's not 100% stable, but nobody has had problems with it ..yet
[01:34] <vox754> Frogzoo, what do you suggest to resize ntfs? I've use Knoppix CD with QTParted, and no problemo
[01:34] <lovloss> Windows needs to be in NFTS carolyn
[01:35] <carolyn_> yea, but you cant write to ntfs with linux
[01:35] <lovloss> carolyn_: You cant have linux and windows on the same file system
[01:35] <stutsman> ok ok...
[01:35] <carolyn_> no, no
[01:35] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: that doesn't sound like a good idea
[01:35] <chamberlain> carolyn, there is a program for windows to let you read from ext3, cant remember the name
[01:35] <profoX`> carolyn_: you can mount an ext2/ext3 linux partition in windows with 3rd party tools too...
[01:35] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: have you confirmed the soundcard is supported?
[01:35] <carolyn_> i need to put files on it using linux, and take em off using windows
[01:35] <chamberlain> im just finding it
[01:35] <stutsman> I think read access is really all I need for now... if I later decided I need write access I might try though....
[01:35] <stutsman> So how do I gain access to that drive then from Ubuntu?
[01:36] <chamberlain> ext2 ifs
[01:36] <ikonia> stutsman: there are no stable cross-platform file systems for write access
[01:36] <sgentry6> carolyn_: you can write to ntfs partitions now: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[01:36] <profoX`> stutsman: is it another hard drive? because other partitions onthe same drive are autodetected afaik
[01:36] <chamberlain> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fs-driver.org%2F&ei=bSviReXJJ6LmhgL7yo3IAw&usg=__U3HvjKp-tjqrh9YIXII5dLKhYcA=&sig2=HYVtJhn4Ytb-fqLdWGoJtg
[01:36] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: i read online that it should work
[01:36] <stutsman> yes, its a completely seperate hard drive
[01:36] <lovloss> there you go
[01:36] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: hmm.. i dunno. i thought soundblasters were pretty well supported
[01:36] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: but apparently maybe not
[01:36] <lovloss> i didn know they had that
[01:36] <profoX`> sgentry6: carolyn_: even though no problems have been found with ntfs-3g yet, it still isn't 100% stable, it's still being tested, just a little warning
[01:36] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: me too
[01:36] <Quintin> Here I am!
[01:37] <chamberlain> carolyn already reformatted to ext3
[01:37] <stutsman> if I go to System>preferences>drives
[01:37] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: forums seem to agree with you that it should be supported
[01:37] <stutsman> I can see the drive
[01:37] <vox754> ikonia, next time I want to be the OP of my channel
[01:37] <profoX`> stutsman: you have to know what partition it is (you can see that with the command: sudo fdisk -l) and then you have to add a line to /etc/fstab (gksu gedit /etc/fstab)
[01:37] <lovloss> Best thing to do with an NFTS partition isnt write to it. Its to move *off* it so you can delete windows ;)
[01:37] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: people who have my card have it working fine
[01:37] <ikonia> vox754: sorry pardon ?
[01:37] <stutsman> but when I click on browse it says its inaccessable
[01:37] <ingrix> lovloss: Well put'
[01:38] <stutsman> wow ok...
[01:38] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: hey, i have a soundblaster live and in the gui mixer it sees the soundcard into two things... is that the case with you? go to file > change device
[01:38] <stutsman> now this is some new territory for me
[01:38] <carolyn_> what about fat 32, cant both linux and windows use that?
[01:38] <chamberlain> yupp
[01:38] <chamberlain> they can
[01:38] <profoX`> stutsman: so you already see your drive?
[01:38] <carolyn_> well, why wouldnt i use that then?
[01:38] <ingrix> carolyn_: Yes, Linux and Windows can use fat32
[01:38] <stutsman> yes I can see it under drives
[01:38] <stutsman> just can't browse
[01:38] <gyaresu> carolyn_: It's not a journaling filing system.
[01:38] <chamberlain> no reason, either works
[01:38] <lovloss> fat32 is perfect for jump drives in fact
[01:38] <profoX`> carolyn_: they can both access it, but fat32 cannot contain the linux filesystem itself! and it's also a bad idea for windows because fat32 doesnt even provide journallin!g not safe for your data in other words
[01:39] <glen> is there a way to create dashed borders around a cell in a spreadsheet in open office
[01:39] <carolyn_> so... we wouldnt do that because its the easy way?
[01:39] <chamberlain> nope
[01:39] <gyaresu> carolyn_: Nor can it save files in unicode or record the file permissions.
[01:39] <profoX`> carolyn_: we wouldnt do that because its not safe and because the root file system cant be on fat32....
[01:39] <chamberlain> just use ext3 and install ext2ifs in windows
[01:39] <lovloss> fat 32 is very... old hat
[01:39] <chamberlain> profox, she doesnt wnat the root on this drive
[01:39] <ikonia> chamberlain: thats not stable for write access
[01:39] <stutsman> I'm guessing I need to open the "root terminal" to type in that command?
[01:39] <carolyn_> i'm only moving files
[01:39] <chamberlain> sure it is, i use it all the time, ikonia
[01:39] <ikonia> chamberlain: no its not
[01:40] <ikonia> chamberlain: just because it is for you doesn't mean it is
[01:40] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: where is that?
[01:40] <profoX`> well my favourite solution is ext2ifs, works fine (also for ext3 because thats almost the same as ext2, but with journalling support)
[01:40] <lovloss> carolyn_: Id say to move files its perfect
[01:40] <chamberlain> well, it works great, but you can think what you want
[01:40] <gyaresu> carolyn_: Not to mention file size limits.. The list goes on...
[01:40] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: double-click on the speaker icon on the panel
[01:40] <misfit_toy> is there a VPN client for a symantec isakmp vpn gateway for edgy?
[01:40] <chamberlain> forgot about that gyaresu
[01:40] <ikonia> chamberlain: I know - it works for me, but I don't recommended it because it can cause serious corruption
[01:40] <gyaresu> chamberlain: Hey?
[01:40] <chamberlain> shes just moving files, ikonia
[01:40] <ikonia> chamberlain: more so to someone who doesn't know what they are going
[01:40] <Quintin> What kernel does the 6.10 liveCD use?
[01:40] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: the audigy 2 value is selected
[01:41] <grndslm> is it possible to copy files with spaces, & character, and other oddball characters using scp??
[01:41] <Frogzoo> !works for me
[01:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:41] <chamberlain> you mentioned the file size limit, gyareso
[01:41] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: is that the only one?
[01:41] <Quintin> Does anyone here have dual core intel cpu ?  or hyperthreading cpu?  I need help confirming bug
[01:41] <Quintin> grayscale: yea
[01:41] <stutsman> awwww....crappy... my help left
[01:41] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: my onboard sound for my motherboard is up there
[01:41] <gyaresu> chamberlain: just emphasising general vfat crumminess.
[01:41] <chamberlain> ok frogzoo, ive seen that before, but still, its not intended to be where she leaves her most important data, from what i have gathered
[01:42] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: but thats it
[01:42] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: are you sure it's not being used by default? disable it in your bios and see if that works
[01:42] <akao> hey guys when i try to 'sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts' it tells me that the package isn't around anymore.  Is anyone else experiencing this?
[01:42] <coulix> is there a way of mapping mouse events to keyboard fonction in (system/prefs/keybdshortcuts) ?
[01:42] <Shrimpy1> can someone help me install the i915 driver on a laptop with an intel graphics card
[01:42] <lovloss> akao: they fiddled with some of the repos lately, i had the same issue. i just downloaded them
[01:42] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: use the i810 driver
[01:42] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: or even plug the speaker cord into the mobo jack
[01:42] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: how do i install it?
[01:43] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: and see
[01:43] <stutsman> ok.....so can anyone else possibly help me then?
[01:43] <akao> lovloss: how did you fix it?
[01:43] <rkyraccoon55> Lufis: Sound Blaster is set as my default
[01:43] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: its already installed
[01:43] <lovloss> akao: look them up on kde-look. Google is your friend. ttf files install by right clicking them and telling ubuntu to install it.
[01:43] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: well, it may be, but given the circumstances it might be confused or something
[01:43] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: well how do i change my resolution then?
[01:43] <gyaresu> stutsman: Need a question.
[01:43] <carolyn_> ahhhh! its gone, its just gone
[01:43] <ikonia> shrimpyyou need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure x to use the i810 driver
[01:44] <stutsman> Okay... I have a dual boot situation...
[01:44] <chamberlain> whats gone carolyn?
[01:44] <stutsman> two hard drives, one with WIndows XP in nfts file system
[01:44] <carolyn_> my external drive
[01:44] <gyaresu> stutsman: mmm...
[01:44] <stutsman> the other with Ubuntu
[01:44] <carolyn_> i cant find it
[01:44] <akao> lovloss: what is this google you speak of?
[01:44] <akao> *scratches head*
[01:44] <lovloss> akao:  HERESY
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: are you still working on the resolution thing?
[01:44] <chamberlain> like you cant literally find it or it doesnt appear in ubuntu?
[01:44] <stutsman> I'm wanting to gain read access of my windows drive from ubuntu to access my mp3s and other files
[01:44] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: but when i set that up it aks a lot of questions and i messed it up last time. can i ask you questions about it
[01:44] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: just told him to reconfigure X to use the i810
[01:44] <hajiki> hey guys how do i make a launcher for the Trash Can???
[01:44] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: you can ask questions
[01:44] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: when i switched it to my onboard sound and plugged it in to my motherboard it worked
[01:44] <carolyn_> its no longer in ubuntu
[01:44] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yes sir    or    ma'am
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: hopefully that works
[01:44] <lovloss> www.google.com
[01:45] <chamberlain> what did you do?
[01:45] <gyaresu> stutsman: Please feel free to use longer sentences. Then you just need to use ntfs-3g and set up your fstab.
[01:45] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: i810 should work for him
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: lol, sir
[01:45] <carolyn_> i formated it as fat32
[01:45] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g > stutsman
[01:45] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: alright i will ask a lot, jsut to warn you
[01:45] <akao> lovloss: what do i do with the google?
[01:45] <akao> lovloss: how do i manipulate this google?
[01:45] <stutsman> Ok.. I was told that that program wasn't in its final release yet and may cause issues
[01:45] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: there you go! it's outputting to the wrong card. just disable the mobo one in your bios :)
[01:45] <lovloss> akao: lol.
[01:45] <chamberlain> hajiki, right click and choose make launcher, and then use "nautilus ~/.Trash" for the command
[01:45] <stutsman> !ntfs-3g
[01:45] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:45] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: ooo, thanks
[01:45] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: I'll only answer with common sense
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: thats what i sent him instructions on, but he said it screwed him up
[01:45] <chamberlain> carolyn, did it finish?
[01:46] <gyaresu> stutsman: Yeah, that.
[01:46] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: I'm not messing around with him
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:46] <carolyn_> it finished
[01:46] <stutsman> ok..
[01:46] <hajiki> chamberlain: thanks
[01:46] <lovloss> akao:  http://thelinuxbox.org/?page_id=3
[01:46] <chamberlain> no problem
[01:46] <stutsman> any one use this?? I mean... how safe is it really?
[01:46] <lovloss> akao: its on that page
[01:46] <chamberlain> carolyn, you have to mount it
[01:46] <lufis> stutsman: it's been tested a lot
[01:46] <gyaresu> stutsman: Havn't heard any problems with it. Do some research and report back if you find someone who has.
[01:46] <carolyn_> mmmmmmmm, mount
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: if i recall correctly, the only question it asked me, was how many bytes of memory my video card had
[01:46] <chamberlain> use the command - "sudo mount /dev/hdb1" where hdb1 is the device
[01:47] <stutsman> hmmm ok
[01:47] <lovloss> so many nice fonts on that page ^o^ they have like 7000
[01:47] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: it asks to identify the card name.  right now it says generic video card. an dthe graphics card is 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:47] <carolyn_> how do i be sure its really hdbl?
[01:47] <gyaresu> stutsman: :) You have backups of all the important stuff right :)  (I use my xp drive as storage for large movie files etc. all the time. And my external drive as well.
[01:47] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: ignore that
[01:47] <stutsman> All I really want is read access...
[01:48] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: i know i did not want to bother you but i'm going to ask you some
[01:48] <stutsman> yes... I do have backups..
[01:48] <chamberlain> well did you note the device name in gparted?
[01:48] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: so just hit enter
[01:48] <carolyn_> ah
[01:48] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: yes
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: if i can remember, i'll try
[01:48] <gyaresu> stutsman: Like I said, never heard any complaints.
[01:48] <Daveyboy> what apt-get do i use for the latest firefox?
[01:48] <stutsman> ok
[01:48] <akao> lovloss: thanks
[01:48] <jkeyes0> such a happy day, automatix is back up.
[01:48] <stutsman> I'll do some research and give it a whirl
[01:48] <stutsman> thanks for the help...
[01:48] <stutsman> hopefully I can install this ok...
[01:48] <chamberlain> you got it, carolyn?
[01:49] <voidmage> Daveyboy: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Daveyboy: it should autoupdate to my knowledge
[01:49] <gyaresu> stutsman: (remember to preface your comments with the nick of the person)
[01:49] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: it ask for pci bus port would it be 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)    but the 00:02.1 part?
[01:49] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: ignore that too
[01:49] <troploup73_> hello everyone
[01:49] <carolyn_> it says it cannot find it
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: you got me on that one, i have no idea.
[01:49] <chamberlain> is it external?
[01:49] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: amount of memory
[01:49] <carolyn_> yes'm
[01:49] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: ignore too
[01:49] <troploup73_> is there a way to boot the live CD off harddisk using grub? my CD burner's dead
[01:49] <chamberlain> oh ok, then its probably /dev/sda1
[01:49] <stutsman> gyaresu: I'm completely new to linux as of yesterday. Before then I had used nothing but windows... Thanks for all the help. I"ll be sure to report back
[01:49] <chamberlain> i thought it was internal
[01:50] <carolyn_> it is!
[01:50] <carolyn_> but it said it couldnt find that
[01:50] <ikonia> troploup73_: nope
[01:50] <troploup73_> ikonia, why not?
[01:50] <Shrimpy1> ikonia. use kernal frame buffer device
[01:50] <chamberlain> carolyn, is it external or internal
[01:50] <carolyn_> est
[01:50] <gyaresu> Hey, nicely done. Sure to see you back here then. :)
[01:50] <carolyn_> ext
[01:50] <chamberlain> usb?
[01:50] <ikonia> troploup73_: because you can't
[01:50] <carolyn_> usb
[01:50] <ikonia> shrimpy1 nah - don't bother with that
[01:50] <CharlieSu> anyone know a good linux live distro for USB drives for command line? no GUI needed..  just need console apps
[01:51] <Shrimpy1> ikonia. autodetect keyboard?
[01:51] <troploup73_> ikonia, what's the problem?
[01:51] <chamberlain> ok, open gparted again, and in the dropdown on the top right, what are the options?
[01:51] <CharlieSu> it needs to have recent drivers..  2.6= stuff hopefully
[01:51] <fab5freddy> Need help installing a Logitech QuickCam
[01:51] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: sounds good
[01:51] <ikonia> troploup73_: you can't use grub to do that
[01:51] <carolyn_> the dev name it gave it is sda1
[01:51] <chamberlain> so use "sudo mount /dev/sda1", assuming you added it to your fstab
[01:51] <kodoku> does anyone here use virtualbox?
[01:51] <Shrimpy1> Xkbr set to   (thenit has xorg)   should i just leave like that?   ikonia
[01:52] <troploup73_> i found some directions to do that using a knopix iso image, why not for ubuntu?
[01:52] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: looks good
[01:52] <fab5freddy> when i do lsusb it detects nothing
[01:52] <carolyn_> they are delete resize/move format to, manage flags, information
[01:52] <troploup73_> ikonia,  i found some directions to do that using a knopix iso image, why not for ubuntu?
[01:52] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: any luck?
[01:52] <ikonia> troploup73_: look - why ask "if you can do it" if you won't take no for an answer - yes you can do it, but its not straight forward
[01:52] <chamberlain> did you do the command i told you to, carolyn?
[01:52] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: yea, worked like a charm, thanks
[01:52] <ikonia> troploup73_: get on with it then
[01:52] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: woot :)
[01:52] <carolyn_> how do you add it to your fstab
[01:52] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: keyboard varriant  (its blank)
[01:52] <gyaresu> Does anyone know a ubotu factoid to remind people to preface comments with their nick?
[01:52] <chamberlain> run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab:
[01:53] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: where are you - usa ?
[01:53] <Shrimpy1> yes
[01:53] <chamberlain> * " not :
[01:53] <troploup73_> if you care to give an answer, why don't you develop it thoroughly?
[01:53] <ikonia> shrimpy varient - usa
[01:53] <gyaresu> !tab
[01:53] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:53] <troploup73_> ikonia, if you care to give an answer, why don't you develop it thoroughly?
[01:53] <_0_PaS_CooL_Du_T> .
[01:53] <chamberlain> and then add your entry to the bottom like so
[01:53] <carolyn_> i typed those letters and something pooed up
[01:53] <ikonia> troploup73_: because I told you the answer - no you can't do that (although you can but its very tricky)
[01:53] <chamberlain> carolyn, what happened?
[01:54] <carolyn_> it opened fstab
[01:54] <chamberlain> yupp
[01:54] <carolyn_> now what?
[01:54] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: it has keyboard options: and it already hs lv3:rat swith      hit enter or change?
[01:54] <chamberlain> now add an entry at the bottom like what im about to tell you
[01:54] <carolyn_> ok
[01:54] <fab5freddy> Logitech QuickCam not detected with lsusb, now what?
[01:54] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: leave them well alone
[01:54] <troploup73_> ikonia, if you know it's very tricky that means it's been done, do you have any references about the process?
[01:55] <ikonia> troploup73_: accept the answer is "no"
[01:55] <ikonia> troploup73_: or use your guide for knoppix
[01:55] <Shrimpy1> mouse protocol : Imps/2 or Explorer ps/2     (i'm on a laptop)
[01:55] <fab5freddy> Logitech QuickCam not detected with lsusb, now what?
[01:55] <chamberlain> "/dev/sda1  /media/external  vfat  user,noauto   0 0"
[01:55] <chamberlain> without the quotes
[01:55] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: imps2
[01:55] <jay-man> hey, im on a dell inspiron b130 and i cant get the wireless to work....can anyone help me please
[01:56] <troploup73_> ikonia, i would accept no for an answer, if it was THE answer, and I can't use knopix's guide because it's just for knopix
[01:56] <ikonia> troploup73_: it is the answer
[01:56] <chamberlain> ok carolyn?
[01:56] <jkeyes0> jay-man: any idea what sort of wireless card you have?
[01:56] <chamberlain> you also have to run the command :
[01:56] <fab5freddy> Logitech QuickCam not detected with lsusb, now what?
[01:56] <ikonia> troploup73_: the ubuntu cd would be very hard to boot with a none-native boot loader to the cd
[01:56] <troploup73_> ikonia, no it's not! you said so yourself
[01:56] <mackinac> Question - when installing with the Edgy Alternate CD, does the GRUB setup allow you to specify which drive's mbr to install itself to? ( i don;t want it on hda...)
[01:56] <chamberlain> "sudo mkdir /media/external"
[01:56] <jay-man> well its the stock one that came built into it
[01:56] <chamberlain> and then "sudo mount /dev/sda1"
[01:56] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: it has a list of X.org files. just leve it at default
[01:56] <up365> fab5freddy, I have that same cam and I saw it listed as unsupported hardware, yet it works on my SUSE PC
[01:56] <jay-man> any easy way to check
[01:56] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: or add some?
[01:56] <troploup73_> ikonia, can't i chainload to it?
[01:57] <ikonia> shrimpys1 nope progres on
[01:57] <ikonia> troploup73_: FYI knoppix uses lilo which is why its easier
[01:57] <fab5freddy> up365: suse is the only one? ubuntu doesn't work?
[01:57] <jkeyes0> jay-man: go to a terminal window and type "lspci" and look for anything regarding wireless cards.
[01:57] <abhay> i need some grub help guys
[01:57] <Shrimpy1> write files to config files, ikonia?
[01:57] <ikonia> Shrimpy1: sounds good
[01:58] <stutsman> ggyaresu: didn't think I'd be back this soon. I'm reading the instructions and its telling me to give the command: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal. It returns the following error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:    I'm not sure what thats all about.
[01:58] <up365> fab5freddy, Ive tried both, on Edgy now but worked fine on SUSE
[01:58] <jay-man> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:58] <Shrimpy1> attempt monitor auto detection ikonia
[01:58] <chamberlain> well, carolyn, run those commands i told you, ill be back on in a few, and you can tell me how you do it
[01:58] <troploup73_> ikonia, the trick comes from a kernel option "fromhd" not the fact that knopix uses lilo or grub
[01:58] <gyaresu> !ask |abhay
[01:58] <ubotu> abhay: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:58] <ikonia> troploup73_: why ask me if your not going to hear what I'm saying
[01:58] <fab5freddy> up365: i guess i will have to try suse, i am using vmware
[01:58] <carolyn_> ok
[01:58] <ikonia> troploup73_: if you think I'm wrong - stop asking and get on with it
[01:58] <jkeyes0> jay-man: here's a threat on the forums that should help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[01:58] <jkeyes0> jay-man: thread, not threat
[01:59] <jay-man> haha thank you
[01:59] <troploup73_> ikonia, i don't care if you're wrong or not, the fact is you know it's done, but you won't care to share the knowlegde
[01:59] <Shrimpy1> ikonia: it ask for video monitors (as in sizes) click on what i want. (can i have more then one)
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE #UBUNTU
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:00] <up365> fab5freddy, in my search to get it to work on Edgy I found a site that(dont remember exactly where)listed cams that would and would not work
[02:00] <Shrimpy1> i agree with IndyGunFreak the support makes me cream my pants
[02:00] <gyaresu> troploup73_: It may be unreasonable to imply that he _must_
[02:00] <lufis> IndyGunFreak: love you too ;)
[02:00] <ikonia> troploup73_: when I tell you facts - you don't listen. Knoppix is easier because it uses lilo - you tell me thats not the reason - so get on with it you clearly think you know better
[02:00] <abhay> ok. i have Windows Vista on my primary hdd, which is SATA. I just added a second hdd (IDE) onto which I have installed Ubuntu. I tried configuring grub so it would allow me to boot from Vista, but it ended up corrupting the volume. I had to reinstall Windows. How should I do this right?
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: i don't know if i love it that much, but it is at least comedic relief.
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> lo
[02:00] <whonicca> is there anyway to backup dvds with encryption protection on linux?
[02:00] <Shrimpy1> lol!
[02:00] <fab5freddy> up365: yes i have found many of those..  never tried suse.. so now might be a good opportunity, is it debian based? what are the pros/cons vs ubuntu?
[02:01] <gyaresu> abhay: That should be an easy one...
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> whonicca: back-up or copy?
[02:01] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: on the configyyy thingyyy it ask for video tingggyyyys   (as in sizes ex 800x600) do i click only one or can i have more then one? and what did you do?
[02:01] <armadill0> I hope this isn't off-topic, but on my linux desktop I'd like to use nview to set up a a two lcd spanned desktop.  But I'm wondering, does "max resolution" refer to each DVI out individually, or does the max resolution refer to the combined resolution, ie: the sum of the two DVI outputs?  Thanks!
[02:01] <gyaresu> abhay: Point the BIOS to boot from the IDE drive first and let grub choose.
[02:01] <whonicca> IndyGunFreak, copy backup same thing
[02:02] <CP-M> Serious question for the group: Toshi Satellite P100; I can't play any audio, but it seems that the sound device is properly detected and the keyboard hotkeys even trigger muting like they should.  Any suggestions?
[02:02] <whonicca> trying to make a backup of this dvd i have
[02:02] <up365> fab5freddy,  if you use SUSE you will GStreamer software for cam, included with 10.1 Im using
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: honestly, its been ages since i've done that command, i don't remember, but i think i only chose 1
[02:02] <Shrimpy1> thanks
[02:02] <gyaresu> abhay: That way you don't even touch the windows drive.
[02:02] <whonicca> on windows id just anydvd to bypass any sort of protection
[02:02] <ikonia> CP-M: you need the toshiba hotkey tools package
[02:02] <abhay> but what do I put in the grub config file?
[02:02] <whonicca> wondering if theirs a similar method on linux
[02:02] <gortba> Hi. Does anyone know how to rename multiple files in a directory. I have a bunch of files named S5030244.jpg, S5030245.jpg and I want to rename them as bday1.JPG, bday2.JPG etc etc...
[02:02] <stutsman> Ok, what exactly does the following error mean?   (gksu:25496): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:02] <gyaresu> abhay: Now that's a good question. I don't know if there is a Vista specific line needed.
[02:02] <mackinac> Does the current installer still let you choose which drive GRUB gets installed to?
[02:03] <ikonia> gortba: you'd need to script that
[02:03] <ikonia> stutsman: means it can't connect to your local xserver
[02:03] <ikonia> mackinac: no
[02:03] <CP-M> ikonia: to clarify... hotkeys work but no audio...  are you sure I need a hotkeys pack to fix it (and if so... google or Toshi site?)
[02:03] <mackinac> ikonia:  thanks - i was afraid of that
[02:03] <ikonia> CP-M: %99
[02:03] <stutsman> ikonia I am soooo lost
[02:03] <CP-M> okies... I'll searchy
[02:03] <gortba> iknoia: I've done this before in the command line just using a for statement--I just can't remember how
[02:03] <abhay> I did this:
[02:03] <abhay> title Windows
[02:03] <abhay> map (hd0) (hd1)
[02:03] <abhay> map (hd1) (hd0)
[02:03] <abhay> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[02:03] <abhay> chainloader +1
[02:03] <fab5freddy> up365: is it 5 cds?
[02:04] <mcphail> !k9copy > whonicca
[02:04] <ikonia> gortba: done what ?
[02:04] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: ok its done do i reboot?
[02:04] <stutsman> Ikonia: how can I fix it so that it CAN connect?
[02:04] <ikonia> abhay: thanks for the flood
[02:04] <abhay> but it messed up
[02:04] <ikonia> stutsman: xhost + and then set your DISPLAY variable
[02:04] <gyaresu> !pastebin > abhay
[02:04] <gortba> ikonia: renamed multiple files
[02:04] <ikonia> gortba: simple script
[02:04] <gortba> ikonia: Without a script
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: i guess if it tells you to reboot, yes
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: but listen
[02:04] <braindead_moron> i want to install the emeporer linux kernel package (empkernel26-<IP_ADDRESS>.emp3_coreduo.i686.deb) but it depends on a proprietery/non available package.. I can install it and it works, but then apt stops working because of the broken dependency.  Then when I do a apt-get install -f it removes the emp kernel.. so how can i "fool" ubuntu into thinking I have the package the kernel depends on?
[02:04] <ikonia> gortba: you can't do it the way you want without a script
[02:04] <gyaresu> abhay: preface comments with the nick of the intended recipient.
[02:04] <up365> fab5freddy, I dont know if SUSE is Debian based have both PCs connected to 1 monitor,switch back and forth found many similarities and differences not to say 1 is better than other and yes 5 CDs or 1 DVD
[02:04] <ikonia> braindead_moron: you can't
[02:05] <abhay> gyaresu: OK. Im new to this
[02:05] <gortba> ikonia: oh. Even if the naming of each file is random?
[02:05] <ikonia> braindead_moron: use supported packages
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: if its screwed up, before you do a new install, boot a live cd, install x-chat or something, and come back here and see if we can help you fix the prob.
[02:05] <braindead_moron> ikonia: I don't believe you
[02:05] <braindead_moron> sorry
[02:05] <ikonia> gortba: thats the problem
[02:05] <ikonia> braindead_moron: no problem
[02:05] <gyaresu> abhay: no problem. You probably need the grub entry to be sd0 or something as it's a serial drive...
[02:05] <stutsman> ikonia: when I use that command I get another error -         xhost:  unable to open display ""
[02:06] <gyaresu> abhay: yeah. you do.
[02:06] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: alright! i have my windows desktop that i hardly touch and i'll long on to that.  Thanks for your help hope to talk to you later with a sucess rating!
[02:06] <ikonia> stutsman: are you root ?
[02:06] <abhay> gyaresu: I see. Where could I read more about this?
[02:06] <gyaresu> abhay: http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html
[02:06] <gyaresu> abhay: :)
[02:06] <stutsman> iknoia I am root
[02:06] <gortba> ikonia: I mean it doesn't matter which file gets bday1.JPG, bday2.JPG etc...
[02:06] <gyaresu> abhay: On teh interweb!
[02:06] <ikonia> stutsman: why are you root - your not ment to use the root account
[02:06] <ikonia> gortba: SO ?
[02:06] <ikonia> oops caps
[02:07] <stutsman> ikonia: The short answer is that I"m root because I guess I really didn't know any better. I'm completely new to this all.
[02:07] <gortba> ikonia: so do you know how to use a "for" statement to do this in the command line?
[02:07] <ikonia> stutsman: then read the docs on ubuntu.com and ubotu links to learn
[02:07] <ikonia> !root >stutsman
[02:07] <braindead_moron> ikonia: According to the debian folks equivs is the way to my salvation
[02:07] <ikonia> !sudoutsman
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoutsman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <abhay> gyaresu: thanks much. I will try this now......
[02:08] <Frogzoo> braindead_moron: what you're trying to do is definately not supported
[02:08] <ikonia> braindead_moron: ok
[02:08] <ikonia> gortba: sorry, I'm not in the frame of mind to work it out
[02:08] <kaje1> does anyone know how to make ssh -r not follow symbolic links?
[02:08] <braindead_moron> Frogzoo: I';m not worried about supported as much as I am about my laptop hibernating
[02:08] <gortba> ikonia: k...thanks
[02:08] <ikonia> !sudo >tutsman
[02:08] <braindead_moron> :-)
[02:08] <kaje1> errr, scp -r
[02:08] <ikonia> !sudo >stutsman
[02:09] <stutsman> ikonia: thank you... I will read this.
[02:09] <EmilMelgaard> Hi, I have a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pro V2085 with a button to activate/deactivate the wireless network card, but it doesn't do anything in Ubuntu, is there a way to activate it without the button (or just to fix the button?
[02:09] <braindead_moron> without the ability to hibernate the laptop's utility is greatly diminished...
[02:09] <ikonia> EmilMelgaard: probably acpi
[02:10] <ikonia> braindead_moron: I can appriciate that
[02:10] <EmilMelgaard> acpi?
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo indygunfreak
[02:10] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[02:10] <HP_Vue> I got beryl on windows
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | indygunfreak
[02:11] <ikonia> HP_Vue: no you have not
[02:11] <HP_Vue> I have
[02:11] <HP_Vue> It's not beryl, but just like it
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: you're back awful fast
[02:11] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: hey, it kinda worked. i have options on my prefs. but not 1200x800 i think i forgot to change it
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> so it either worked or it didn't
[02:11] <ikonia> HP_Vue: then why did you say you have beryl
[02:11] <HP_Vue> Has the same effect
[02:12] <ikonia> HP_Vue: don't talk rubbish / troll
[02:12] <HP_Vue> I do have beryl
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: forgot to change what?
[02:12] <Shrimpy1> gonna try it one more time IndyGunFreak
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1: are you still running the live CD?.. or did you install?
[02:12] <ikonia> HP_Vue: ou have beryl on windows - rubbish as its not compatible
[02:12] <HP_Vue> I don't
[02:12] <fab5freddy> Anybody having trouble connecting to Automatix?
[02:12] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: like add 1200x800 resloution option... it's install lol
[02:13] <ikonia> HP_Vue: then why did you say you did - are you trolling
[02:13] <HP_Vue> How do you know I didn't?
[02:13] <gyaresu> fab5freddy: You really don't need automatix if you have the right repos setup...
[02:13] <ikonia> !ops
[02:13] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:13] <jfenwick> ahoy hoy. I'm looking for a way to easily convert flac files to mp3
[02:13] <ikonia> hp_vue - your'e trolling, I can't be bothered
[02:13] <HP_Vue> Stop
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl
[02:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:13] <HP_Vue> Your trolling now ikonia
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ikonia: ?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> nvm i see it
[02:14] <ikonia> gnomefreak: please take action againg HP_vue trolling
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> HP_Vue: lol, you're calling ikonia a troll?
[02:14] <ikonia> ahh ok
[02:14] <chaplan> can't get to talk to anyone at ubunto studio chanel
[02:14] <ikonia> thanks
[02:14] <gnomefreak> HP_Vue: thats enough please stop
[02:14] <fab5freddy> gyaresu: and how do i know if i have the right repos?
[02:14] <gyaresu> !repos > fab5freddy
[02:14] <rkyraccoon55> !beryl
[02:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: why do people always call Ubuntu, Ubunto
[02:14] <HP_Vue> I have a beryl like program on windows, although it is not beryl, it has the same effect. so stop saying I am a troll over and over again
[02:15] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: Be Right Back (hopefully)
[02:15] <ikonia> HP_Vue: you said you had beryl on windows - not me
[02:15] <akao> what's the directory for fonts?
[02:15] <ikonia> HP_Vue: this is ubuntu - we don't care about windows
[02:15] <ikonia> gnomefreak: thnaks
[02:15] <HP_Vue> ...
[02:15] <gnomefreak> HP_Vue: stop trolling
[02:15] <HP_Vue> I'm not trolling
[02:15] <HP_Vue> you are
[02:15] <ikonia> byeeeee
[02:16] <HP_Vue> Please stop repeating yourselfs
[02:16] <ikonia> ta
[02:16] <carolyn_> ta
[02:17] <kungfugoat> I hate ATI
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> kungfugoat: so get Nvidia
[02:18] <kungfugoat> IndyGunFreak: I would if it was easy to rip out the chip from my laptop
[02:18] <EmilMelgaard> Hmm, I can only get this acpi to show the battery state, do you know where I can find more information about it?
[02:18] <stutsman> I think I"m going to pull my hair out
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> kungfugoat: guess the only option now then, is sell your laptop and buy one with an nvidia chip
[02:19] <kungfugoat> IndyGunFreak: that's why I'm so pissed off
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> kungfugoat: whats the malfunction?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> i've used ATI under Linux,
[02:19] <kungfugoat> I tried to sell the thing but it looks like I'll have to lose about $500
[02:19] <kungfugoat> in 4 months
[02:19] <stutsman> iknonia: I figured out how to no longer be root
[02:19] <fab5freddy> gyaresu: can you confirm that the Automatix site is down though?
[02:19] <kungfugoat> IndyGunFreak: I can't get dual head to work properly
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> kungfugoat: good luck, i never could either
[02:20] <stutsman> ikonia: but the instructions for this nfts-3g thing just go right over my head
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> kungfugoat: if you're on a laptop, what do you care about dualhead?
[02:20] <gyaresu> fab5freddy: I'll have a look.
[02:20] <genii> kungfugoat The moment you buy a system it depreciates by about 1/3
[02:20] <Indephysis> What's the default root password for 5.10
[02:21] <poningru> there is none
[02:21] <kungfugoat> IndyGunFreak: I like to use my spare 19" monitor with my laptop
[02:21] <poningru> !sudo | Indephysis
[02:21] <kungfugoat> genii: yeah...
[02:21] <gyaresu> fab5freddy: getautomatix.com is up
[02:21] <ubotu> Indephysis: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:21] <naut> Is there a super-package that puts all the typical tools you need for C/C++ development on ubuntu?
[02:21] <gyaresu> fab5freddy: are you talking about it's repo?
[02:21] <poningru> !buildessential | naut
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <dreamerdude> When i do something that makes my cpu work overtime my fan goes faster obviously but when my cpu goes back to normal my fan still goes like mad untill i shutdown...it shouldnt do this right? anyone know why it does
[02:21] <poningru> !build essential
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <poningru> !build-essential
[02:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:22] <fab5freddy> gyaresu: it's back now.. thanks
[02:22] <naut> poningru, thanks
[02:22] <n2diy_> build-essintials
[02:22] <gyaresu> fab5freddy: Oh. Database error. Yeah they seem to be having problems. probably a DDOS.
[02:23] <stutsman> Ok... so how exactly do I go about compiling this stuff once I have downloaded the package?
[02:25] <steffen_> hi, i need to emulate my mousebuttons with the keyboard in X.org. May someone suggest a program which I can use for that? F.E.: bind "Super"+y = Left Mouse . Thank you very much.
[02:26] <n2diy_> steffen_: take a look in system-prefs
[02:26] <n2diy_> steffen_: take a look in system-prefs-keyboard
[02:27] <steffen_> n2diy_: well oh, I forgot to mention I am under IceWM. Old Laptop.
[02:27] <reuben> question: how do i switch from kde to gnome
[02:28] <n2diy_> steffen_: you don't have a system preferences menu?
[02:28] <Shrimpy> IndygunFreak: same problem it does not allow anything larger. it allows smaller sizers. any clues?
[02:28] <genii> reuben If you have both installed you normally select the session type from your login manager  (eg: kdm or gdm)
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: none at all.
[02:29] <steffen_> n2diy_:No no system-prefs. I found some Programs but none of them is available for debian/ubuntu and none of them is compilable: xrebind xkeymouse (something like that)
[02:29] <reuben> genii...this is my first install....should i reboot?
[02:29] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: ui get the crappy one i have now and two smaller ones
[02:29] <Marintia> Hi I can't install flash player for xubuntu any idea?
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: i have no idea why that is.
[02:29] <genii> reuben Do you know if you installed the KDE or Gnome version of ubuntu?
[02:29] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: let me try it one more time whre only the screen i want is selected
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> !flash
[02:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <n2diy_> steffen_: ok, check out the man page for loadkeys
[02:29] <steffen_> n2diy_: One can bind key in IceWm but not the Mouse Buttons. I didn't found the command
[02:29] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:30] <steffen_> n2diy_ : thank you will do that
[02:30] <Marintia> I did it thank you
[02:30] <genii> reuben Anyhow, yes, after first install from the livecd you should reboot with the cd out so it boots up to the new system
[02:30] <reuben> genii i installed 6.10 with gnome, did an update and add program and after the restart kde came up
[02:31] <reuben> genii currently booting from hard disk
[02:31] <genii> reuben So if you logout from the desktop, you should be able to choose the default session type (window manager) you want from the display manager
[02:32] <genii> reuben You do not need to completely reboot
[02:32] <Mat1> hello again everyone
[02:32] <akao> so i have some fonts in just the straight .ttf format can i just past them in a particular directory to install?