[06:08] <z_> Ben64 Yeah, I want to downloaad the file to that directory
[06:08] <Ben64> you need to specify a file with -O
[06:08] <z_> Ben64 How can I download a file to that directory, What option?
[06:08] <Ben64> put a filename : /
[06:09] <z_> Ben64: Ok, so it should be like this? wget -c -O http:www:ISO /media/EOS_DIGITAL
[06:09] <Ben64> O_o
[06:09] <z_> I am sorry, I am no expert
[06:10] <chromaticwt> do I have to use ubuntu to access my ubuntu cloud?
[06:10] <Ben64> why do you need to use wget? why not go to the website and right click on the link and select "Save target as"
[06:11] <z_> Ben64 Because the wifi signal is not reliable, so sometimes its gone, I need wget to try all night,
[06:12] <Ben64> just specify a filename on -O
[06:12] <Ben64> one that doesn't exist already
[06:13] <Stanley00> Hi, I'm using Oneiric on my laptop, when I try to connect to an unsecure wifi network, my system freeze, my wireless card is AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). What should I do?
[06:14] <z_> Ben64 Can you please tell me exactly how to write that in the terminal? I dont get it
[06:14] <Stanley00> chromaticwt: do you mean ubuntu one?
[06:14] <Ben64> z_: you can call it whatever you'd like
[06:16] <motherbrain> just use base64 command
[06:17] <motherbrain> or if your learning it is a good lesson to write your own base64.... base conversion stuff
[06:17] <motherbrain> it really is pretty easy to do an alot are on google ...in explaining how to do it ;)
[06:19] <z_> !google
[06:20] <mebigfatguy> wow
[06:20] <mebigfatguy> google-fu? like how to search?
[06:20] <Stanley00> interesting... I never notice that new user dont have goolge-fu :))
[06:21] <z_> Many of us use Bing
[06:21] <motherbrain> well , did answer his question first
[06:22] <oYeVoVeYo> puff_, it says: In case your wireless card is not automatically detected, you must download and install the driver manually. Plug in your laptop via ethernet (as the wireless probably doesn't work) and install this package:   but when I plugged in the ethernet, it still couldn't connect to the internet
[06:26] <WhiteHorse> my wireles connection stopped working... is there any "repair connection" like in windows? How do I suppose to solve the issue... I have Ubuntu 11.10 with the new Desktop
[06:30] <krodik> Hi there!
[06:32] <krodik> Anyone can help with an installation of Ubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Studio 1555?
[06:33] <airtonix> dell studio 1555 specs (for anyone wanting real information) : http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/dell_studio_1555
[06:33] <airtonix> krodik: it helps to provide this when asking for help.
[06:34] <Gallomimia> cursor still stuck in the center of the screen. all booting appears to have ceased
[06:40] <newmember> I am trying allow a user to run things with sudo, how do I add a user to use sudo?
[06:41] <vouth> newmember: apparently there's something called the sudoers file.
[06:41] <vouth> newmember, just a minute, I'll look online about it for you
[06:42] <vouth> newmember: Ah, this looks like it should work: http://benaiah41.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/37/
[06:44] <lyn> any body?
[06:45] <vouth> lyn, what's your question?
[06:46] <lyn> my english is pool ,can I speak chinese?
[06:46] <Stanley00> Hi, I'm using Oneiric on my laptop, when I try to connect to an unsecure wifi network, my system freeze, my wireless card is AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). What should I do?
[06:46] <Stanley00> !cn | lyn
[06:48] <lyn> And I want to have a friend
[06:48] <Stanley00> !ot | lyn welcome you in here
[06:49] <vouth> I've accidentally gotten it so every time I run something using sudo I get: "No protocol specified (process:pid): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0"
[06:52]  * boobear is away: Gone away for now
[06:52] <pellos> i need to move a directory. what is the command ?
[06:53] <Stanley00> boobear: please turn off that away message, thanks
[06:53] <Stanley00> pellos: mv doesn't work?
[06:54] <pellos> filemng: Error occurred during /bin/mv command.
[06:54] <pellos> I HATE PLESK
[06:54] <vouth> pellos: mv
[06:54] <Stanley00> pellos: can you post all error message
[06:55] <newmember> vouth: I tried adding users to sudoer but when prompted for a password, the password fails.  Is the password the same as the users password or the root password?
[06:55] <vouth> Um, I was a bit behind the times there, sorry :-P
[06:55] <pellos> what syntax should i use for mv command? i need to move oldsite to httpdocs folder
[06:55] <Stanley00> pellos: mv source dest
[06:56] <Stanley00> pellos: and make sure you have the write permission
[06:57] <newmember> pellos: maybe try the '-v' option to watch whats happening      mv -v  /source  /destination
[06:57] <puff_> I think I may yave exceeded the speed limit on the phenom it locked up at 3336.7mghz
[06:58] <Kronen> newmember: you should use the user's password
[06:58] <vouth> newmember: Type 'sudo adduser [user] admin', replacing '[user]' with the name of the user being added and omitting the quotation marks. Then, it should prompt you for a password. If you yourself are already an administrator (able to sudo), that will be your password.
[06:58] <pellos> newmember: i need to move all the contents of oldsite to httpdocs
[06:58] <vouth> Kronen, sorry, you got there first :-D Probably because I wound up writing a novel. With no real reason.
[06:59] <pellos> not just the folder
[06:59] <pellos> how that will work?
[06:59] <vouth> pellos: cd to the relevant directory, then run: mv oldsite httpdocs
[07:00] <vouth> pellos, on second thought, do you want the folder 'oldsite' inside httpdocs, or do you want it renamed 'httpdocs'?
[07:00] <puff_> sudo mv -r oldsite newsite
[07:00] <joebobjoe> What is the easiest way to access home directory from server over file share?
[07:01] <pellos> mv: cannot stat `httpdocs': No such file or directory
[07:01] <vouth> puff_: do you even need the -r? I just tried on a sample directory without it and it worked fine
[07:01] <pellos> how is that possible.. i can see the httpdocs dir
[07:01] <vouth> pellos, are you in the directory in which httpdocs resides?
[07:02] <pellos> yes
[07:02] <newmember> pellos: mv -v /sourcedirectory/*   /destination/
[07:02] <vouth> pellos, that's just weird.  Sorry :-P
[07:03] <vouth> pellos: do you see it in the output of ls?
[07:04] <pellos> newmember again :)  mv: cannot stat `/jupgrade/*': No such file or directory
[07:05] <Stanley00> pellos: can you please post all the command you run, and the output of "pwd && ls"
[07:05] <newmember> pellos: is your source directory a symbolic link?
[07:05] <Stanley00> !paste
[07:06] <Stanley00> pellos: I think "pwd && ls -l" will be better
[07:07] <pellos> check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/791354/
[07:08] <A_J|> hey folks. can some one help set up some automation when i boot up ubuntu, i want my pc to login into both user accounts, and in one user account start a certain program
[07:08] <Stanley00> pellos: yes, that's it... you dont know about absolute path and relative path, do you?
[07:09] <pellos> stanley no . i am new to all this
[07:09] <pellos> i have to use full path you mean ?
[07:09] <Stanley00> pellos: yes, use full path
[07:09] <Stanley00> pellos: or dont start a path with "/" ;)
[07:10] <vouth> pellos, paths beginning with / indicate that they are in the root directory
[07:10] <Stanley00> A_J|: login into 2 account at the same time is not possible.
[07:10] <A_J|> Stanley00 well i want to login so i can access it later on via ssh
[07:10] <pellos> thanks it worked :)
[07:11]  * oYeVoVeYo pokes DBoyz, am here
[07:13] <Stanley00> A_J|: if so, just start up service ssh,
[07:13] <Stanley00> you dont need an account to login to do that
[07:14] <A_J|> but i require deluge to startup Stanley00
[07:14] <A_J|> on one account
[07:15] <bullgard6> I forgot what utility transforms  mtime="1325534892" in a human-readable format?
[07:16] <mile123> A_J|: probably 'screen' utility will help
[07:16] <Stanley00> A_J|: you just can auto run an app after an user has login, but cant auto login an user
[07:18] <pellos> stanley plesk or cpanel ?
[07:19] <Stanley00> pellos: what do you mean
[07:19] <pellos> i think cpanel works better with ubuntu instead of plesk
[07:20] <Stanley00> pellos: I dont know about that, I'm just an normal desktop user :D
[07:20] <vouth> How can I mount a partition that's not in the fstab from the command line?
[07:20] <llutz_> bullgard6: date -t @<your-epoch-timestamp>
[07:20] <llutz_> date -d *   sry
[07:21] <Stanley00> vouth: you can use the mount command
[07:21] <cordoval> i have a big folder i want to scp, what is the way to do this, tar it and gzip it and then scp ?
[07:21] <Stanley00> vouth: ex "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mountoint"
[07:21] <vouth> Stanley00: I tried. sudo mount /dev/disk/by-label/LABEL: mount: can't find /dev/disk/by-label/LABEL in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:21] <vouth> Aah, I forgot the mount point. D'oh
[07:22] <vouth> Thanks :-P
[07:22] <llutz_> cordoval: rsynx -aux dir/  user@host:/path/dir
[07:22] <Stanley00> vouth: you are welcome ;)
[07:22] <llutz_> grr, rsync*
[07:26] <cordoval> llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:26] <cordoval> ?
[07:26] <cordoval> i wonder if i have rsync installed
[07:26] <cordoval> this is freebsd
[07:26] <llutz_> cordoval: this is #ubuntu
[07:27] <cordoval> i know the machine to which i am connecting is #ubuntu too
[07:27] <cordoval> and my lappy is ubuntu
[07:27] <motherbrain> I have a cd live distro is their an easy way to make another menu entry on it with alacarte and somehow have it maintain it's state on reboots... (without remastering/creating another livecd)
[07:28] <cordoval> so llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[07:28] <llutz_> cordoval: rsync -aux dir/  user@host:/path/dir             you miss the ":"  (man rsync)
[07:28] <Stanley00> motherbrain: sadly no, AFAIK
[07:28] <motherbrain> All I want to do is beable to give somebody this cd and have him execute this one button backup script I wrote
[07:28] <cordoval> oh
[07:29] <cordoval> so llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/  cordoval@mydomain.com:home/cordoval/site.com  ?
[07:29] <Stanley00> motherbrain: you can make a persistent USB to do that
[07:29] <cordoval> it is just that i see a happy face
[07:29] <bullgard6> llutz_: '~$ LANG=C date -t @1325534892; date: invalid option -- 't'.'
[07:29] <llutz_> cordoval: check destination path
[07:29] <llutz_>  08:20 < llutz_> date -d *   sry
[07:29] <motherbrain> can you make a persistent cd/dvd instead?
[07:29] <llutz_> bullgard6: ^
[07:30] <Stanley00> motherbrain: no, persistent need to write to USB, so you cant do that with CD/DVD
[07:30] <llutz_> bullgard6: i corrected my typo, "date -d @<epoch-timestamp>"
[07:31] <bullgard6> llutz_:  Yes, this works all right. Thank you very much for our help.
[07:31] <linuxuz3r> is there a .profile for ubuntu
[07:32] <motherbrain> so , i guess the only way if I wanted to give him a cd/dvd is to remaster / recreate the iso with that menu item on it/desktop button on it.... damn damn just time consuming
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> .profile i mean that it loads when ever shell configuration you have when you log in
[07:32] <bullgard6> linuxuz3r: Do you mean bashrc?
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> thats for bash
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> i wondering for all shells
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> .profile
[07:33] <llutz_> linuxuz3r: it should be there after creating a new user
[07:33] <cordoval> llutz_:  can i do it bringing files from ubuntu box?
[07:33] <cordoval> i wonder
[07:33] <cordoval> since i dont want to install rsync on freebsd
[07:33] <llutz_> cordoval: man rsync  (rsync -au user@host:/path /local/path)
[07:34] <cordoval> ?
[07:35] <cordoval> pkg_add -r -v rsync
[07:42]  * tnk1 is back.
[07:43] <cordoval> man is so complicated
[07:43] <cordoval> i may just tar zip the whole folder and then scp
[07:43] <cordoval> will that be faster?
[07:43] <cordoval> i want it now
[07:44] <cordoval> http://webhostingneeds.com/Install_rsync_in_freebsd
[07:44] <llutz_> cordoval: nobody here cares about freebsd
[07:44] <cordoval> i know meneither
[07:44] <cordoval> just wish there could be a way
[07:45] <cordoval> to fetch from ubuntu box files in freebsd box
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <bpr> how can i configure sshd so that the only way people can ssh is if they have an accepted key (ie. password login is disabled)?
[07:52] <bpr> ssh in is*
[07:53] <llutz_> bpr: man sshd_config (PasswordAuthentication)
[07:53] <bpr> llutz ty
[07:53] <geoffmcc> bpr: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[07:53] <Snowie> Hi all. Trying to configure sun java  as per http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#rpm . Anyone tell me how to modify ln's for chrome. or better yet. anyone here play minecraft in their browser on 11.10. if so, what's your configuration
[07:54] <bpr> geoffmcc: that's not really what i was asking
[07:54] <bpr> but thanks
[07:55] <geoffmcc> bpr: maybe its not the link i thought, thought there was a section in there about disabling it in sshd.conf. sorry
[07:55] <llutz_> bpr: when changing sshd_config make sure to keep a root session open for bugfixing....
[07:56] <bpr> llutz_: good tip
[08:00] <mr-russ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/377414https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/377414
[08:00] <A_J|> !pae
[08:00] <mr-russ> In that message, it says to enable natty-update/proposed, how do I do that?
[08:00] <A_J|> umm i did that, it did not work
[08:00] <A_J|> the pae thing
[08:01] <mr-russ> A_J|: how much RAM is in the machine?  4G
[08:01] <A_J|> yes mr-russ
[08:02] <A_J|> it's allocating just 3.2gb
[08:02] <mr-russ> A_J|: unless you computer support memory hoisting, or memory remapping, you just lose the RAM.
[08:03] <A_J|> mr-russ i think it does
[08:03] <mr-russ> A_J|: I've still got problems with a 3 year old pc with 4G RAM.  all of your devices are mapped into the 3.2-4G space so you can use regular ram from there.
[08:03] <mr-russ> A_J|: do you have it enabled if it does.
[08:03] <mr-russ> output of dmesg where the memory is printed at time 0.000  says where the ram is allocated.
[08:04] <mr-russ> and if it's addressable above 4G.  I can't even get 64bit to recognise more than 3.3G.
[08:07] <cyberworm54> this my be a question out of contest but How do I request a clock?
[08:08] <A_J|> mr-russ damn demsg does too much to pastebin via ssh :(
[08:08] <A_J|> any idea's ?
[08:08] <mr-russ> just the top bit.
[08:09] <dr_willis> cyberworm54: a clock for what
[08:09] <A_J|> comes something like<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000=000000000000000000000000
[08:09] <A_J|> o/ dr_willis
[08:09] <dr_willis> moo!
[08:09] <A_J|> lol
[08:09] <A_J|> ur a cow O.O
[08:09] <mr-russ> [    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:  <-- and follwoing 10 lines
[08:10] <A_J|> mr-russ wait a sec i'll get u a proper pastebin
[08:11] <cyberworm54> dr_willis hide ip
[08:11] <dr_willis> cyberworm54:  cloak... you said clock.
[08:12] <dr_willis> !cloak
[08:12] <A_J|Unix> umm, what was the command again
[08:13] <cyberworm54> dr_willis thank you sorry for the misspelling
[08:14] <Humbedooh> cloaks are for evul people with misdoings!
[08:14] <A_J|Unix> umm i cannot copy the top part, seems i cannot scrool
[08:14] <A_J|Unix> scroll*
[08:15] <Humbedooh> dmesg | tail ?
[08:15] <Humbedooh> or dmesg > somefile.txt ?
[08:15] <A_J|> okie Humbedooh will try that
[08:15] <Humbedooh> or was that another user..
[08:16] <arulmozhi> just now i hav installed ubuntu 11.04... cannot run unity why?
[08:17] <Humbedooh> ah the top of dmesg, that'd be "dmesg | head" then
[08:17] <akpk> Hello
[08:17] <Humbedooh> tail would provide the..tail :>
[08:17] <dr_willis> arulmozhi: missing 3d video drivers main cause of that
[08:17] <akpk> I have installation problems with xampp ?
[08:17] <arulmozhi> i hav nvidia 8400gs card
[08:18] <mr-russ> a_j|: dmesg | head -n20
[08:18] <dr_willis> yiu installed the nvidia druvers yet arulmozhi ?
[08:18] <akpk> Can anyone help me ?
[08:18] <A_J|Unix> mr-russ: : http://pastebin.com/spKVhiGU
[08:18] <mr-russ> akpk: xampp seems very windows
[08:19] <dr_willis> !lamp
[08:19] <arulmozhi> i tried the Addditional Drivers from System--> Administration  no response...
[08:19] <A_J|Unix> !flash
[08:20] <dr_willis> arulmozhi: try installing the nvidia-current package
[08:20]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[08:20] <mr-russ> a_j| [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820:<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 (usable)
[08:20] <mr-russ> you have stuff above 4G, so you have a chnce
[08:21] <llutz_> !away | tnk1
[08:21] <arulmozhi> dr_willis: thanx i'll try it
[08:21] <mr-russ> a_j| Linux version 2.6.32-35-generic (buildd@vernadsky)
[08:21] <dr_willis> :-)
[08:21] <A_J|> mr-russ how do i use it then
[08:21] <Katronix> Hi all, if you want a server to be a web server what all does it need besides apache and php?
[08:22] <Katronix> or is there a meta package I can install?
[08:22] <Stanley00> Katronix: I think that's enough
[08:22] <llutz_> !lamp | karbas_
[08:22] <dr_willis> some data to serve.....
[08:22] <mr-russ> a_j| getting there.  You need a PAE kernel installed, which you don't seem to have.
[08:22] <Katronix> Stanley00 what about for like bind and stuff? this server will also be its own name servers
[08:23] <Stanley00> !lamp | Katronix
[08:23] <mr-russ> a_J| per my last post which included you Kernl line.
[08:23] <Stanley00> Katronix: name server is "dns", right?
[08:24] <A_J|> mr-russ i installed it, nothing happened
[08:24] <Katronix> yes
[08:24] <A_J|> !pae
[08:24] <Humbedooh> pft, now you're nitpicking, Stanley00  :p
[08:24] <A_J|> i used this : sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[08:24] <dr_willis> !bind
[08:24] <Humbedooh> !bind9
[08:24] <Humbedooh> boo
[08:25] <Stanley00> Humbedooh: what do you mean? Sorry, my English is not good.
[08:25] <Humbedooh> nevermind, Stanley00 :)
[08:25] <Humbedooh> Katronix, if you need BIND, then install it :>
[08:25] <Flannel> I believe you're looking for
[08:25] <Flannel> !dns
[08:26] <harsh343> I am trying to intall ZendServer-5.5.0_Tarball_M40-php5.2.17-linux-glibc23-x86_64 from terminal but not able to do that
[08:27] <harsh343> how it is possible ?
[08:27] <harsh343> right now i am here volition@volition-H61M-DS2:~/Downloads$
[08:27] <Stanley00> Humbedooh: haha, I got it, just make sure he got noticed... =))
[08:28] <A_J|> mr-russ. waiting for you
[08:28] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you extracted the archive files?
[08:28] <Humbedooh> harsh343, uhm.. tar -zvxf Zendserverandsoon
[08:28] <harsh343> yes
[08:28] <Humbedooh> does if have a configure script?
[08:28] <dr_willis> read the install readme?
[08:29] <harsh343> Humbedooh, yes this file contains install.sh
[08:29] <harsh343> but when i click on this nothing happens
[08:29] <Humbedooh> runit from a terminal plzkthx
[08:29] <dr_willis> use the shell.. dont click
[08:30] <Indiana> A
[08:30] <harsh343> ok but how ?
[08:30]  * tnk1 is back.
[08:30] <Humbedooh> open a terminal window thingy :>
[08:30] <dr_willis> ./foo.sh
[08:30] <dr_willis> bash basics ;)
[08:30] <Humbedooh> accessories > xterm or whatever, then cd Downloads and ./install.sh
[08:30] <harsh343> dr_willis, i am trying this but nothing happens
[08:31] <solofight> people i wanted to create a rsa login for a different user other than root. so i did a su username and generated rsa keys. added the public in authorized keys file, restarted ssh and tried accessing that server from local using the private key but it says permission denied (public key)
[08:31] <solofight> how to debug the same
[08:31] <llutz_> !away > tnk1 switch it off pls
[08:31] <dr_willis> there may be some readme files to read harsh343
[08:31] <A_J|> !away
[08:32] <harsh343> dr_willis, this folder does not contain any read me files
[08:32] <Humbedooh> do you know how to open a terminal window, harsh343 ?
[08:32] <dr_willis> check its homepage perhaps. we are just guessing in the dark
[08:32] <mr-russ> a_J| what's uname -a say for itself?
[08:33] <dr_willis> it may need other tools installed first
[08:33] <harsh343> Humbedooh, this is the link what i am trying http://pastebin.com/R7cvmnXQ
[08:33] <A_J|win> Linux XXX-XXX 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:33] <Katronix> there wouldn't happen to be a website that will write the config files for bind for me would it? IE: I answer a few questions, and it does all the thinking? :-)
[08:34] <mr-russ> A_J|win: I'm sure you need PAE kernel there.  I'm trying to find a 32bit machine I can login to to find it for you.
[08:34] <Humbedooh> some scripts don't like being called as root, maybe you should try with out the whole sudo thing
[08:35] <A_J|win> mr-russ, well i teied an install of it using sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae. It downloaded something but nothing happened
[08:35] <mr-russ> A_J|win: did you reboot?
[08:36] <A_J|win> yes mr-russ
[08:36] <mr-russ> A_J|win: well, the PAE kernel isn't running as the uname says PAE.
[08:36] <mr-russ> A_J|win: so my guess is it's booting the wrong kernel, but why is difficult over IRC.
[08:37] <Humbedooh> Katronix, you could try webmin?
[08:37] <llutz_> !webmin | Katronix Humbedooh nobody wants to use webmin
[08:37] <Humbedooh> (although I shouldn't say such)
[08:37] <Humbedooh> llutz, shove off with that :p
[08:38] <A_J|win> is llutz_ an obvious bot :O
[08:38] <tanzhen1988> is there any body?
[08:38] <Humbedooh> well he's nitpicking for sure :)
[08:39] <Humbedooh> Webmin works fine for managing BIND, has nothing to do with package installation
[08:39] <Kimmen> Katronix: webbind perhaps
[08:39] <ServerSage> tanzhen1988: What was your question?
[08:39] <bullgard6> Humbedooh: Stop denouncing honourable people here in this channel. Please.
[08:40] <tanzhen1988> no question
[08:40] <Humbedooh> denouncing?
[08:42] <slikts> I wish it was possible not to autogroup unity icons for the same app
[08:42] <werever> hi! anybody can help me to find information about login to a private folder wich owner was deleted?
[08:42] <slikts> and to have the Unity dock horizontal
[08:42] <Humbedooh> I'd say complaining about webmin's package management software is well off-topic when discussing BIND configurations, so I'm well within my right to use the word nitpicking
[08:42] <A_J|win> slikts i wish for the second thing too
[08:43] <slikts> A_J|win: the first thing makes it hard to use the icons, there's an additional step to select anything
[08:43] <slikts> in essence, if I have more than one window per app in one screen, there's a penalty
[08:44] <slikts> I have enough screen estate to not benefit from the grouping, not to mention autohiding :/
[08:44] <theadmin> Humbedooh: If a part of webmin is broken, we can well consider all of it being so.
[08:44] <llutz_> Humbedooh: oyu might be right, but the problem is that people, once webmin is installed, will start to use it for other tasks too. that's likely to break stuff.
[08:45] <slikts> unity dock now feels like it was made for netbooks and netbooks only, I just don't get it
[08:45] <Humbedooh> luttz, that may be, but it wasn't my impression that the discussion was of total computer management
[08:45] <theadmin> slikts: Use something else then
[08:45] <slikts> and also: the always-on backlights for Unity dock hide the profile/shape of the icon, making it harder to see
[08:45]  * A_J|win *waves to theadmin*
[08:45] <theadmin> slikts: gnome, KDE, XFCE... Unity is a work-in-progress and is pretty much useless so far
[08:45] <slikts> theadmin: like what? I want a dock
[08:46] <slikts> I like the dock windows 7
[08:46] <slikts> *in windows 7
[08:46] <werever> please help me to mount an encrypted folder, the owner doesnt exist anyore, only his home folder and his private folder encrupted
[08:46] <Humbedooh> but can we please stop with words like "denouncing", that's overly dramatic for one saying "nobody wants" and the other responding "nitpick" :)
[08:46] <theadmin> slikts: Oh, a dock? Hm... xfce4-panel can be made to resemble Windows 7 almost exactly, but honestly if you keep using Unity you'll have to keep both
[08:47] <slikts> theadmin: I'll look at it
[08:47] <llutz_> s/nobody/nearly nobody/ i'll correct me ;) Humbedooh
[08:48] <Humbedooh> :D
[08:48] <theadmin> Humbedooh: I understand your point of view and it is correct, however discussing software that can (even partially) break a user's system is not a good idea in this channel. I'm not really sure if it's allowed, llutz_ may know that better.
[08:49] <Humbedooh> I did add a second line saying "although I'm not supposed to say that" or something
[08:49] <Kimmen> almost all software that automagically generates a config for the user have the potential to break the system
[08:49]  * theadmin wasn't really watching, was bit busy playing with her Chrome stuff :D
[08:49] <theadmin> Kimmen: Well APT does that all the time :P
[08:50] <pnorman> Open source means if you break it you can keep the pieces :)
[08:50] <A_J|win> theadmin can you help me fix my flash, it's jerly / laggy and un-usable. ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[08:51] <Humbedooh> flash or gnash? :<
[08:51] <A_J|win> Flash
[08:51] <theadmin> A_J|win: Flash back in those ages was a huge problem. How about you update/switch distros to get more recent versions of it?... I can't really help with it, it's propertiary -- no patches etc
[08:52] <A_J|win> theadmin i don't like 11.10 Unity. thats why I am on 10.
[08:52] <A_J|win> 04*
[08:52] <A_J|win> liked the old Genome Desktop
[08:52] <theadmin> A_J|win: How about XFCE :D
[08:52] <theadmin> lol "Genome"
[08:52] <A_J|win> <3
[08:53] <A_J|win> XFCE, hmm
[08:53] <A_J|win> !XFCE
[08:53] <A_J|win> i should be able to select in from my login screen theadmin
[08:53] <Humbedooh> !Lubuntu
[08:53] <orastes> A_JIwin do you use x86_64 system?
[08:54] <A_J|win> x86
[08:54] <theadmin> A_J|win: Yeah, as soon as you install either "xfce4" or "xubuntu-desktop". But I suggest you just get Xubuntu 11.10 and install it
[08:54] <nickyyy> x89
[08:54]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[08:54] <theadmin> Humbedooh: XFCE is compatible with gnome2, whereas LXDE is not.
[08:54] <Humbedooh> AJ, you mean i686?
[08:54] <theadmin> !away | tnk1
[08:54] <Humbedooh> theadmin, I was just getting that link for myself :)
[08:54] <A_J|win> theadmin except the GUI is there any diffrence ?
[08:55] <theadmin> A_J|win: Can you PM me? The channel is noisy, I lose track of conversations >.<
[08:55] <A_J|win> okie theadmin
[08:57] <stepnjump2> Does anyone know of a complete app to design websites and free for Ubuntu?
[08:58] <llutz_> vim :D
[08:58] <stepnjump2> llutz...a complete app lol
[08:58] <llutz_> stepnjump2: vim IS complete
[08:59] <stepnjump2> I don't have time to reinvent the wheel
[08:59] <stepnjump2> vim????
[08:59] <A_J|win> !vim
[08:59] <llutz_> stepnjump2: there were quanta/bluefish and maybe some other tools
[08:59] <A_J|win> lol llutz_
[08:59] <stepnjump2> I am more looking for an app that I could use as a GUI, wysiwyg type of app llutz
[09:00] <stepnjump2> ok thanks llutz
[09:01] <theadmin> llutz_: Nice one
[09:01] <theadmin> stepnjump2: Try Kompozer or Bluefish
[09:01] <heinz_> !code
[09:02] <stepnjump2> thanks theadmin...  Any idea where I could study how to program websites online for free or for cheap theadmin or llutz_ ?
[09:03] <Humbedooh> stepnjump, google "php for dummies" or "asp for dummies" or whichever language you like
[09:04] <Rods_Tiger> or better still: http://rubyonrails.org/
[09:04] <llutz_> stepnjump2: i only know selfhtml.org   but i'm not dealing with html/php myself
[09:04] <theadmin> Perl > PHP imo
[09:05] <Humbedooh> that's debatable, Rods_Tiger :p
[09:05] <Rods_Tiger> perl isn't a good place to start though
[09:05] <stepnjump2> Humbedooh, that's a good idea... I know they will be dropping the flash at one point... so I have to find a good language.. php is good but complex. I think it will be there to stay. Is there a channel here on ubuntu about web programming I could join?
[09:05] <Humbedooh> perl indeed, but not a lot of perl hosting sites these days sadly
[09:05] <stepnjump2> thanks for the link llutz_
[09:06] <Humbedooh> try #php, #perl, #python etc?
[09:06] <stepnjump2> theadmin, what is Perl > PHP imo?
[09:06] <Rods_Tiger> for someone with no prior experience, I'd take them through ruby on rails first, and perhaps php via a framework as a second choice
[09:06] <Humbedooh> or #lua if you're feeling odd
[09:06] <student> need polish canal
[09:06] <theadmin> stepnjump2: Means "I think Perl is better than PHP"
[09:06] <llutz_> !pl
[09:06] <Rods_Tiger> lua for web apps?
[09:06] <wadkar> how to make sudo run a particular script without password and a tty ?
[09:07] <Humbedooh> you don't? :>
[09:07] <stepnjump2> theadmin do some people still use perl today?
[09:07] <wadkar> Humbedooh: yeah, I know, I shouldn't , but I want to know anyways ;)
[09:07] <heinz_> stepnjump2: sure
[09:08] <Humbedooh> Rods_Tiger, I use Lua the same way people use php :)
[09:08] <stepnjump2> mmm... ok I think it looks a bit like C from what I remember seing years ago
[09:08] <stepnjump2> theadmin, are you using weechat-curses?
[09:09] <theadmin> stepnjump2: It's the most popular CGI language actually... And no, I'm using KVIrc
[09:09] <slikts> theadmin: of course, because "there's more than way to do it" mantra is NOT a way to design an error- and confusion-prone language
[09:09] <stepnjump2> theadmin: ok I saw the column there so I assumed lol
[09:09] <theadmin> slikts: I'm not a Perl fan myself, but I prefer it over PHP
[09:10] <wadkar> found it, set visudo to allow userName ALL = NOPASSWD /path/to/script , and invoke as sudo -n /path/to/script
[09:10] <slikts> theadmin: your preference doesn't mean that one is better
[09:10] <cristian_c> Hello, I do not know how to deal with a problem
[09:10] <ubuntuaddicted> who can tell me which motherboard with many SATA ports that can run 16GB of RAM and has 6 core CPU support for Ubuntu 64bit
[09:10] <theadmin> slikts: I said, "I think". Meaning "in my opinion". Meaning "for me". Meaning "this works better than that in my cases"
[09:11] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Uh, anything will have support for Ubuntu, I'd ask in ##hardware
[09:11] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, thanks
[09:11] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin usb 3.0?
[09:11] <slikts> theadmin: is that as opposed to the things you say but don't think?
[09:12] <theadmin> slikts: No, it's as opposed to think that aren't in my opinion
[09:12] <cristian_c> I do not know how to extract information about the audio server or manager used at this time by the system via the terminal or file
[09:12] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Hm, idk if that works yet, not so sure
[09:12] <ubuntuaddicted> k, over at hardware. thanks
[09:12] <orastes> wadkar : you may competely disble sudo to ask pass (not recomended) "visudo" and if you press both alt and f2 you may type your command.
[09:13] <cristian_c> I tried using the ps command in combination with pulse or other servers, but nothing is returned
[09:13] <wadkar> orastes: thanks, I would rather specify NOPASSWD to specific script, I just need to figure out how to run `sudo /path/to/script` without a TTY
[09:13] <Rods_Tiger> Humbedooh: I must investigate lua for web apps, then. Thanks
[09:14] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin, i just got made fun of for using ubuntu in the hardware channel. LOL
[09:14] <cristian_c> Is there one way to find this thing?
[09:14] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Unsurprising. It's generally considered the "noob distro"
[09:20] <eqq> !hello
[09:20] <_NiC> that's a bit unfair, isn't it?
[09:20] <kika> hi
[09:21] <theadmin> _NiC: Maybe somewhat
[09:21] <_NiC> :)
[09:21] <_NiC> I use it because it usually just works. Which is exactly what I need for my workstation.
[09:24] <remoteCTRL> ok guys my linux has been hacked
[09:25] <remoteCTRL> how the hell is that even possible??
[09:25] <cristian_c> I tried also with status alsa-store
[09:25] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: What makes you say that?
[09:25] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, do you know how they got in?
[09:25] <cristian_c> but the daemon is not started
[09:26] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, and what exactly do you mean by "hacked"?
[09:26] <stepnjump2> For databases, is mySQL still available for free in ubuntu?
[09:26] <_NiC> stepnjump2, yes
[09:26] <ofaurax_boulot> does someone knows a really working way of rebooting network ?
[09:26] <ofaurax_boulot> everytime I try, I finish by rebooting
[09:26] <cristian_c> I tried also with service pulseaudio status
[09:26] <cristian_c> but pulseaudio is not installed
[09:26] <_NiC> ofaurax_boulot, /etc/init.d/networking restart maybe?
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: we are a university institute, the firewall operator of the university wrote me that there have been complaints that somebody from within our ip-range tries to bruteforce break passwords on ssh connections
[09:27] <_NiC> ofaurax_boulot, don't do it remotely though.. :-)
[09:27] <ServerSage> cristian_c: You probably want alsasound
[09:27] <_NiC> (unless inside screen)
[09:27] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: That doesn't mean it was "hacked"
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: i have meanwhile found the computer, it has a gazillion of auth denied entries in the logs, but i have absolutely no clue what part of the os has been compromised
[09:27] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin, lol
[09:27] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: You sure you don't have a student with an account being a bad person?
[09:28] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I do not know how to retrieve this information via the terminal
[09:28] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, attempts to bruteforce a login either way does not mean you've been hacked.
[09:28] <cristian_c> or via file
[09:28] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: and frankly spoken i have no idea how to find out
[09:28] <ServerSage> cristian_c: sudo service alsasound status
[09:28] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ermm... this comuter is the originator not the target from what i understand...
[09:28] <cristian_c> ok
[09:28] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What are you trying to do?
[09:29] <cristian_c> ServerSage, alsasound: unrecognized service
[09:29] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Doesn't matter, as I said, you probably have a student that is doing the brute force attack.  Attacks originating from your machine doesn't 100% mean you have been hacked.
[09:29] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, check the logs then. who was logged in etc. check their history.
[09:29] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What are you trying to do?
[09:30] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if you're lucky/they're stupid, they have left lots of evidence.
[09:30] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: well there is a possibility that one of our students is doing this, but as they already know that i am onto this, and i am also sure that they dont want to get fired (we have only phd candidates), i am confident that this does not come from the inside...
[09:30] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Like _NiC said, if they are stupid you'll see evidence.  Check /tmp for fun named files.  Seems all the idiots make that mistake.  :)
[09:30] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I need to discover the current audio server so I can use the appropriate command to manipulate the audio channels of the mixer
[09:30] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, bad password on an account? Can be easily guessed. Check which IP's logins come from.
[09:31] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: lol, like what?
[09:31] <driiper> Hello! I have a Web Server ( Apache2) on my ubuntu server using port 80. Now i also need a HTTP/SOCKS/HTTPS proxy server on the same port. (80), is there any way to have both services on the same port , or atleast so you can connect to both via port 80
[09:31] <ServerSage> cristian_c: If you don't have pulse audio or alsasound available, you don't have sound set up.
[09:31] <stepnjump2> thanks _NiC
[09:31] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if 99% of logins is from a campus, and 1% is from china, brazil, uganda or other weird countries.. you've found it.
[09:31] <_NiC> (no offense to anyone living in a weird country ;-)
[09:32] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: i got one general prolem here: i have a newly implemented ldap database for user authentication and i have not implemented the password encvryption yet. so curretnly we are sending the pwds cleartext over the net. i have no clue who is really loggend in :(
[09:32] <cristian_c> ServerSage, in what sense 'I don not have sound set up'?
[09:32] <cristian_c> *do not
[09:32] <remoteCTRL> geeez what a mess
[09:32] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Does your sound work?
[09:32] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: You should still have auth logs in /var/log
[09:33] <llutz_> remoteCTRL: and you seriously ask how a linux-system can get hacked?
[09:33] <cristian_c> ServerSage, yes
[09:33] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Then you should have either alsasound or pulse audio installed.  Which is installed when you look in the package manager?
[09:34] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Wow, really?  You seriously are passing your passwords clear text over a network and you wonder how it got hacked?
[09:34] <cristian_c> ServerSage, pulseaudio is not installed
[09:35] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I  check for alsasound
[09:36] <ServerSage> cristian_c: It's probably called alsa-tools, not alsasound in the package manager.  :)
[09:37] <greenit> hi, i have a problem... i bought a samsung ssd, installed it in the computer and now i am using it as my primary hd... i installed win7 (where i am right now) and then i tried to install ubuntu on it too... however, there was a problem i think. there were many different installoptions, for example upgrade the other ubuntu, reinstall ubuntu, delet everything and install ubuntu... i have chosen advanced, made a /, a /home and a swap-
[09:37] <greenit> partition and thought its ok... ubuntu recognized the ssd as sdb btw - but when i start it immediately starts win7, without grub. for info: i have 2 fully functional operating-systems on the other hard disk (ubuntu 11.10 and win7)... how do i get ubuntu working on my ssd?
[09:37] <cristian_c> ServerSage, the package is not installed
[09:37] <remoteCTRL> how could they possibly have foudn out that quickly? :D
[09:37] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:37] <cristian_c> ServerSage, 11.10
[09:37] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: I refuse to dignify that with an answer.
[09:38] <driiper> Hello! I have a Web Server ( Apache2) on my ubuntu server using port 80. Now i also need a HTTP/SOCKS/HTTPS proxy server on the same port. (80), is there any way to have both services on the same port , or atleast so you can connect to both via port 80
[09:38] <iceroot> driiper: no
[09:39] <driiper> damn :(
[09:39] <iceroot> driiper: use 8080 for the proxy
[09:39] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Have you looked at the online help docs?
[09:39] <driiper> the problem is that the only port open for connection is port 80
[09:39] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I'll check
[09:39] <ServerSage> cristian_c: http://tinyurl.com/7tlww6p
[09:39] <cristian_c> ServerSage, *I'll check for it
[09:40] <iceroot> driiper: i dont know a solution where you can have multiple programs on the same port
[09:40] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: llutz go easy on be guys, we had a crash which was definitely not my fault but caused by a hardware failure, and that the backups weren't suitable wasnt either, i am only the guy who can clean up the mess... (we had to have an authentication quickly as noone could work otherwise...)
[09:40] <stepnjump2> Looks like perl executes faster than anything else out there!
[09:40] <stepnjump2> http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=perl+or+php+benchmark&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=qtRtrQOrbdKoAM:&imgrefurl=http://onlyjob.blogspot.com/2011/03/perl5-python-ruby-php-c-c-lua-tcl.html&docid=8BDjyaqGLgGWXM&imgurl=http://sites.google.com/site/onlyjob/arena/speed_close.png&w=833&h=334&ei=a8sCT9_fHMyutwewkKzPBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=140&vpy=122&dur=335&hovh=142&hovw=
[09:40] <stepnjump2> 355&tx=165&ty=103&sig=118435790611270740413&page=1&tbnh=57&tbnw=142&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&biw=991&bih=377
[09:40] <stepnjump2> ooops sorry
[09:40] <stepnjump2> sorry didn't mean to flood... this URL is ridiculously long
[09:41] <greenit> stepnjump, use http://bit.ly
[09:41] <greenit> stepnjump, use http://bitly.com *
[09:41] <iceroot> stepnjump2: but what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[09:41] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Check your auth logs.  If the attacks are still happening, get a known good copy of the standard tools on to the system.  Things like top, ps, ls, etc..  Use those tools and the auth logs to figure out who is doing what.
[09:41] <stepnjump2> Here it is: http://sites.google.com/site/onlyjob/arena/speed_close.png
[09:42] <stepnjump2> iceroot, I was talking about scripting languages earlier with some guys
[09:42] <cristian_c> ServerSage, thanks, there are six guides. But I do not know which of these is suited to my problem
[09:42] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What is your problem?
[09:42] <iceroot> stepnjump2: ok, i guess #perl, #bash or ##scripting is a better place
[09:42] <greenit> can no1 help me?
[09:42] <ServerSage> cristian_c: I still don't know.  All you said was you wanted to use a mixer.
[09:42] <iceroot> !ask | greenit
[09:42] <driiper> Yeh your probably right iceroot. What i was thinking was a application to like, Lets say i use Apache on port 8000 and a proxy on port 8080. then a program to loop everything into port 80 :D like a reverse proxy if you want.
[09:42] <cristian_c> ServerSage, which server is using the system at this time
[09:43] <cristian_c> :)
[09:43] <driiper> But ill try to get hold of a new IP adress, and ill set up a second server for proxy
[09:43] <iceroot> driiper: no way to open the firewall?
[09:44] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Based on what you've said, neither.  Though I'll assume it's pulse.  If you run "ps aux |grep pulse" what do you get?
[09:44] <greenit> well... then i will shorten the question: i have a new hd and want to install ubuntu on it, but it doesn't recognize it (not even grub shows on boot)... plz help me getting ubuntu running
[09:44] <iceroot> greenit: does the bios detect the hdd?
[09:44] <stepnjump2> tnx iceroot
[09:45] <_NiC> greenit, did you install grub on /dev/sda or sdb?
[09:45] <greenit> iceroot, yes, i have installed win7 on it and it works...
[09:45] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: mybe this: rtkit     1595  0.0  0.0  21792  2068 ?        SNl   2011   0:08 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon :D
[09:45] <greenit> _NiC, i have installed grub on sdb
[09:45] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Yup, there you go.
[09:45] <iceroot> greenit: and the ubuntu-installer is not detectiing the drive?
[09:45] <cristian_c> ServerSage, the command returns only the grep process
[09:45] <_NiC> greenit, if the bios doesn't read sdb during boot, it won't see grub.
[09:45] <driiper> iceroot: sadly not as i'm sitting on a university :(
[09:45] <greenit> iceroot, it is also detecting the drive, but as sdb
[09:45] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: That is what we call a compromised system.  You're gonna need to start from a bare install and a restore from a known good backup.
[09:46] <ServerSage> cristian_c: I have NO idea how you have sound working then.
[09:46] <iceroot> greenit: that is not a problem
[09:46] <iceroot> greenit: tell the bios to boot from the second hdd instead of the first
[09:46] <greenit> _NiC, erm.... and why does it start win7 then immediately after boot? on sda there are 2 working operatingsystems (win7, ubuntu)
[09:46] <AziaBurgi> hello i've just got back from holiday to find our server had been turned off and now mysql won't start, any ideas?
[09:46] <cristian_c> ServerSage, ok, thank you anyway for the support :)
[09:46] <iceroot> ServerSage: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/rtkit
[09:46] <_NiC> greenit, because it reads the windows bootloader
[09:47] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, yes, check the mysql errorlog.
[09:47] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no worry about rtkit its nothing bad
[09:47] <AziaBurgi> _NiC: where would i find that?
[09:47] <greenit> iceroot, _NiC ok, i will try your tips, thx for help :)
[09:47] <iceroot> AziaBurgi: sudo service mysql start
[09:47] <ServerSage> iceroot: Ha..ha…ha.  Oops.  Support while installing.  Somebody gets the short end of the stick every time.  :)
[09:47] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Never mind, I'm probably retarded tonight.
[09:47] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, usually in /var/log/mysql or the datadirectory of mysql
[09:48] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, which is possibly /var/lib/mysql
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> monkeyfish@beast:~$ sudo service mysql start
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> [sudo] password for monkeyfish:
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> start: Job is already running: mysql
[09:48] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i beg your pardon??
[09:49] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/rtkit
[09:49] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: if i am correct ServerSage told you that your system is compromised because there is something running called rtkit
[09:50] <kika> hhi
[09:50] <remoteCTRL> well i thought so too...
[09:50] <kika> i have ubuntu 32 can i upgrade it to ubuntu 64?
[09:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but its not
[09:50] <iceroot> kika: no
[09:50] <iceroot> kika: only with a reinstall
[09:50] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: phhhewww.... eraltime kit not root kit...
[09:51] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: correct
[09:51] <kika> pfff ok worths the reinstall in pocessor performance?
[09:51] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, do you have a backup of this server?
[09:51] <iceroot> kika: there will be no performance-difference you will notice
[09:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: phew i already thought all of the computers were compromised, as this runs on wach and every one...
[09:51] <_NiC> kika, I don't think there's a real need unless you have memory you can't address.
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: amd64 is usefull when you have 4GB of memory or more
[09:52] <kika> i have a slow grafic card and im looking to get some extra performence
[09:52] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Even if you figure this out, and it turns out to be somebody that sniffed a password, they have that password.  You are going t have to force users to change their passwords at some point.
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: that has nothing to do with amd64
[09:52] <_NiC> kika, then get a new gfx-card :)
[09:52] <kika> its a laptop
[09:52] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: we had several powerlosses in our building due to a broken waterpipe, so no, the machine with the database was slightly damaged and then being backuped with the damaged system.
[09:52] <_NiC> new laptop, then? :-)
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: what card? maybe you are using the free drivers which dont have 3d support
[09:53] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: unfortunately i had no clean backup anymore...
[09:53] <remoteCTRL> so i reinstalled
[09:53] <kika> i think is a intel integrated with memory shared
[09:53] <iceroot> kika: ok then you are running the best driver already
[09:53] <lillo1234> hi
[09:53] <kika> but in windows runs faster
[09:53] <kika> ...
[09:53] <iceroot> kika: what is your definition of "slow"? games? videos? desktop?
[09:53] <kika> in game
[09:53] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if you had a backup of your binaries, you could md5sum a known-good binary on the backup and compared to your system (while booting from a CD or something) to check if your binaries have been tampered with.
[09:54] <kika> when im in menu all graphics are perfect, but when in game all gets slow
[09:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: ServerSage: installing rkhunter and chkrootkit...
[09:54] <iceroot> kika: what game? using wine? or a native game?
[09:54] <kika> native game HON
[09:54] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, or you could of course get the md5sum on a similar server with the same software, that you know is safe.
[09:54] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no need for that
[09:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: the one computer is still being origin for ssh attakcs...
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ssh attacks are normal
[09:55] <kika> any way to improve hthe grafics somehow?
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: there are thousands a day on linux-systems
[09:55] <iceroot> kika: i dont think so
[09:55] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: i do get the point, unfortunately i dont have any of them anymore... when i saw the backup was no use i deleted them in a tantrum :D
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: that are just bruteforces on port 22
[09:55] <lillo1234> !list
[09:55] <kika> cuz i noticed that if i lower the graphics in options get uglier but same slow speed
[09:55] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: but this computer is not the TARGET but the ORIGINATOR!
[09:55] <lillo1234> exit
[09:56] <kika> cuz i noticed that if i lower the graphics in options get uglier but same slow speed
[09:56] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ah ok
[09:56] <AziaBurgi> _NiC: it looks like my binded ip address has changed, i'll have a look at that, thanks for the pointer
[09:56] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, is it happening *now*?
[09:56] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, sure thing.
[09:57] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: _NiC: ServerSage: so currently checking, gonna take a while i will report back then...
[09:57] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if the server has always been up-to-date with security-updates, it's probably not rooted, if not, I'd check the binaries.
[09:57] <lyn> 有人吗？
[09:57] <kika> lin game i have option to select LVDS1 can this be conigured
[09:57] <vouth> Hi, every time I boot, X segfaults :-( I have an ATI Radeon graphics card. Help!!
[09:57] <vouth> !cn | lyn
[09:58] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, processes meant for bad things are usually pretending to be something else when you look at the ps-listing.
[10:00] <Vlad___> Hi. Anybody can help me? Tell me please, where create the partition "biosgrub", during the installation of 11.10? Two partitions on each hard disk or to combine these two partition and on the software raid? (FAKE RAID 1, gpt)
[10:00] <glace> ..
[10:00] <remoteCTRL> geez i wasnt aware that there are that many root kits...
[10:01] <lyn> msg dsak
[10:02] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: root kits are like women's purses, one for every occasion.
[10:02] <lyn> Away dsak
[10:02] <almoxarife> vouth: looked at the logs to see what there is to see?
[10:02] <ServerSage> lyn: You might want to try a / there.  :)
[10:02] <metaspike> Vlad_. im not sure. what I do know is that if you write grub to the mbr of the boot disk, and have a valid parition for /boot to reside, whether in its own parition or not, it should work.
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: found basically nothing but gave two warnings, one for /usr/bin/mail and one for /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
[10:04] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Are the outbound attacks still happening?  As in, are they happening right now?
[10:04] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, what gave warnings?
[10:05] <opalepatrick>  Is it an absolute certainty that if all my files on a dvd are filled with zeros using ghex, that the brasero dvd burn completely failed and is irrecoverable? The folder structure is fine.
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ServerSage: iceroot: it is not the ldap database that is compromised but an arbitrary computer in the net. i just supposed that this was due to the clear text pwds...
[10:05] <dyd> guys, why gparted live cd should not recognize my keyboard/mouse? i go trought the first menu, but when the "don't touch keymap" menu appears it's stuck :|
[10:06] <ServerSage> dyd: Probably want to ask in the gparted irc channel...
[10:06] <metaspike> opalepatrick, trying to recover a cd?
[10:07] <opalepatrick> metaspike, yeah a dvd backup (actually two)
[10:07] <vouth> almoxarife: I archived them when I got to the fallback x mode. The fallback mode was barely functional (I couldn't get it to log in or restart x or anything). It looks like something to do  with libc.so.6 but it would be nice to know what that was :-)
[10:07] <vouth> almoxarife: I'll pastebin it…
[10:07] <almoxarife> vouth: cool
[10:08] <vouth> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/5c6X00JX
[10:08] <almoxarife> dyd: there is a 'don't touch keymap' where in the install of a ubuntu version?
[10:09] <kika> hi, can i set virtual memory in ubuntu like windows?
[10:09] <metaspike> opalepatrick, there was this program on windoze that was really good (yes it does happen now and then.) it was called cdroller (and yes, it was a commercial product). anyway, it could read cd's on a sector by sector basis and extract files from paritially damaged cds, im sure there's a linux equivilant that can do the same and proberly better.
[10:09] <vouth> almoxarife: uh, *not* cool. :-S I can't boot to my regular system and am stuck using this problematic, buggy, slow testing one!! :-P
[10:09] <Vlad___> metaspike: mbr? I did't make a separate partition for /boot. I can't install grub to "/boot" or "/". Its needed for separate partition ~ 1mb. But i don't know where. One on raid or two on HDD used for raid.
[10:09] <kika> hi, can i set virtual memory in ubuntu like windows?
[10:09] <vouth> almoxarife: The problem appeared right after doing some updates.
[10:09] <dyd> almaxarife: gparted live cd, not ubuntu installation
[10:10] <vouth> kika, do you mean swap space?
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> what was the name of the pastebin channel?
[10:10] <almoxarife> dyd: no, android?
[10:10] <kika> maybe... is that like virtual memory?
[10:10] <CaptainQuirk> Hi
[10:11] <vouth> kika: From wikipedia it looks like the same thing
[10:11] <polygone> 22
[10:11] <CaptainQuirk> what is the best place to store information for a VPN connection over openvpn ?
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: iceroot: rofl@purses, yes the attacks are still occurring, nope, not at the ,moment, but i found so,mething very strange
[10:11] <CaptainQuirk> certs, keys etc ...
[10:11] <polygone> 023023hyuyhjhhggf^$
[10:11] <ikonia> polygone: please stop that
[10:11] <Vlad___> metaspike:  GRUB need a separate partition when Guid Partition Table(GPT) used.
[10:11] <ikonia> ahhh, there we go
[10:11] <kika> how do i know how much swap i have?
[10:12] <vouth> kika: Yes, it can be configured. Swap space in Linux is usually stored in a dedicated partition. So basically it's just a matter of resizing that partition. (GParted makes that quite a manageable task).
[10:12] <opalepatrick> metaspike, yes I have used a few, but the problem may be that brasero didnt burn properly... utter, utter pain. The DVD's are OK I believe - checked them anyway
[10:12] <metaspike> opalepatrick,  there's two programs you want to checkout... recoverdm and dares
[10:13] <vouth> kika: try running top to monitor swap space
[10:13] <ikonia> swapon -s
[10:13] <metaspike> and packagesearch, it's a great way to find packages :)
[10:13] <vouth> kika, it should be in the 5th line
[10:13] <Vlad___> kika: how many ram do u have?
[10:13] <shahan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:13] <shahan> Plz help me regarding this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:13] <Wonder> whenever I type in ifconfig eth0 up, it always gives me this msg : eth0: ERROR: while getting interface flags: No such device" ...... dang I hate this stupid laptop
[10:13] <Wonder> Somebody plz help?
[10:14] <shahan> Guest97349: what kind of help do u need?
[10:14] <Guest97349> It can't connect to the wired or wireless, and also I looked into the ubuntu forum already, and been reading the posts for the whole arvo, doesn't seem working
[10:14] <metaspike> Vlad, I would have reside it outside of the logical / raid system if possible and mark it as bootable as a precaution, however im only musing.
[10:14] <almoxarife> vouth: try installing 'fglrx' if not already installed
[10:14] <Guest97349> shahan, umm, well, I can't say, all I want is make it connect to the internet
[10:15] <vouth> almoxarife: wut? Um, I can I guess but it worked fine with the plain old radeon driver, until I did those (*%#@${ updates.
[10:15] <kika> not sure how much ram... im trying to improve performance of this while in hon not sure bigger swap will make the diference
[10:15] <shahan> Guest97349: oh... sorry I cannt help you regarding this issue. Hope somebody expert in networking ...
[10:15] <metaspike> Wonder. does it show up if you do:   ifconfig -a  ?
[10:15] <opalepatrick> aaah OK, thanks metaspike. I will check those
[10:15] <vouth> almoxarife: That'll teach me not to mix repos. Again. :-S
[10:16] <Vlad___> metaspike: :(( "mark in as bootable" = partition on each hdd.
[10:16] <almoxarife> vouth: no idea, but its something to try, you can afford to right now
[10:16] <shahan> Plz help me regarding this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:16] <remoteCTRL>
[10:17] <vouth> almoxarife: Ok. I'll have to reboot to do that (it's in the same machine), so I guess I'll be back in a few if things don't go well :-P Thanks :-)
[10:17] <kika> linux swap is 7.7 gb is that good enouf?
[10:17] <_NiC> kika, swapping will *not* increase your performance, that's for sure..
[10:17] <metaspike> I honestly don't know Vlad___, ubottu suggests https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto besides that I cant help sorry
[10:18] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, when I do ifconfig -a, it comes up with "lo.......(followed by bunch of stuff)" and     "wlan0........... (follored by bunch of stuff)"
[10:18] <almoxarife> vouth: also install fglrx-updates
[10:18] <kika> any way i get more cpu free?
[10:18] <vouth> kika: that's a lot. I have mine at 2g. No idea why you'd need 7g swap.
[10:18] <tristan1> AFTER UPGRADING to 11.10 some of the icons such as sound and power do not work anymore... what can i do to fix them... the power icon in task manager on the top right will not respond except to show power level... and i used to have the option of controlling banshee or rhythmbox from task manager but now i cant get it to show up... whats changed...
[10:18] <vouth> almoxarife: ok, thanks.
[10:18] <almoxarife> vouth: also install fglrx-update/s , can't remember
[10:19] <_NiC> kika, to get more cpu-time, you need to stop some processes you don't need.
[10:19] <vouth> almoxarife: ah, well, aptitude will probably sort it out  for me :-)
[10:19] <vouth> almoxarife: Be right back then.
[10:19] <lasher_> can some one point me to where to find how to register freenode
[10:19] <_NiC> kika, and/or use more lightweight versions of software.. for example the window manager
[10:19] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo- lspci | grep Ethernet | pastebinit   - send us the link if it has anything.
[10:19] <oYeVoVeYo> Even when I flug in the cable, it still doesn't work
[10:20] <oYeVoVeYo> kay, wait a sec
[10:20] <_NiC> kika, disable fancy effects, etc
[10:20] <tristan1> biggest concern is trying to find out why i cant add the media control back into the sound task manager icon.. im sure its something simple im overlooking..
[10:20] <metaspike> lasher_,  /msg Nickserv identify (mypassword) - think you have to register or some such, google it :P
[10:21] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, it says the program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:21] <lasher_> ty
[10:21] <kika> where can i disa
[10:21] <kika> disable that in ubuntu 11.10
[10:21] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo, bash speaks of wisdom then
[10:22] <almoxarife> tristan1: look for all the 'extensions' associated with the stuff you are missing, seems 'extensions' is the 'new' thing that makes things happen
[10:22] <oYeVoVeYo> so I should do the sudo apt-get install pastebinit? @ metaspike
[10:22] <metaspike> yes
[10:22] <tristan1> almoxarife: thank you.. where do i check to see where and what extensions are installed for my sound manager and power applet..
[10:23] <zork> oYeVoVeYo, be sure to put a pipe | in front of pastebinit.
[10:23] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you do it in the past?
[10:23] <metaspike> kika, you can tweak compiz with ccsm, in terminal run - sudo rcconf - for nitty gritty services configuration or just remove/replace gnome altogether.
[10:23] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, it says E: Couldn't find package pastebinit ... FYI, I can't connect to the internet, wired or wireless
[10:23] <oYeVoVeYo> zork, O.o" I didn't quite get you
[10:24] <metaspike> actually, the program called bum might be more appropriate than rcconf for you gui easness
[10:25] <zork> oYeVoVeYo, my bad.  I thought you were *using* pastebinit, not installing it.
[10:25] <tristan1> it just worked before i upgraded to 11.10.. now its basically a super basic applet.. and rhythmbox for example has an option to include play and skip ect. but if i check yes it doesnt do anything to my sound applet. dont know why the applet doesnt respond to that setting now..
[10:25] <kika> kika@kika-Presario-CQ56-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo reconf
[10:25] <kika> sudo: reconf: command not found
[10:25] <kika> kika@kika-Presario-CQ56-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo rcconf
[10:25] <kika> [sudo] password for kika:
[10:25] <kika> sudo: rcconf: command not found
[10:25] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo, ha.. of course.  did it ever work? can you at least get wlan to work?
[10:26] <metaspike> apparently I have connection issues of my own o_o
[10:26] <tristan1> kika: use http://pastebin.com/
[10:26] <oYeVoVeYo> Well, days ago, it worked... for a little while, but then it just stopped @ metaspike
[10:27] <oYeVoVeYo> And nope, I can't get either eth0 or wlan0 to work, >.<
[10:27] <metaspike> you did nothing at all?! not even upgrade
[10:28] <tristan1> how do i get extensions for my basic applets... and where do i check to see what extensions are already installed...
[10:28] <oYeVoVeYo> Umm nope, I'm using 10.04 LTS, I thought it works fine... except that it couldn't conenct to the internet
[10:28] <Calinou> hi, I installed the "gnome" packet and switched to gdm as login manager, I rebooted and it went fine. I set auto-login to on and now I can't reboot
[10:29] <Calinou> I'm on ubuntu 11.10. Tried recovery mode, nothing could help
[10:30] <metaspike> Calinou, there's a few ways you could fix this, one would be to edit the /etc/init.d/gdm script from a live cd
[10:30] <Calinou> booting works, but when it finishes (when the desktop is supposed to show) it just turns black and shows a console with a bunch of messages
[10:30] <Calinou> ok metaspike - edit what, and where?
[10:31] <tristan1> calinou: tried the command startx
[10:31] <Calinou> can't type any command :/
[10:32] <tristan1> calinou: even if you try ctrl+c
[10:32] <Calinou> when should I press those keys? in grub?
[10:32] <tristan1> when it freezes at the end
[10:32] <Calinou> k
[10:33] <metaspike> yeah, that and ctrl+alt+f1 to f8
[10:33] <metaspike> ctrl+alt+backspace. i forget how that one works
[10:33] <ranjan> how to add a banner in Ubuntu GDM in 10.04
[10:33] <tristan1> metaspike: startx will only work on tty 7 i think.
[10:34] <opalepatrick> JUst picking your brains metaspike. Should the fileout with recoverdm be something like recover.img ?
[10:34] <sveinse> Hi. I'm getting reports from apt-get that a package have been kept back. How can I get apt-get to print why it has been kept back?
[10:34] <Calinou> ctrl+c doesn't seem to do anything
[10:34] <metaspike> opalepatrick, i don't know- ask me if you really get stuck :)
[10:34] <mkanyicy> sveinse, you need to do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:35] <opalepatrick> lol... thnaks metaspike
[10:35] <tristan1> How do i explore extensions for my power and sound applets...
[10:35] <mkanyicy> sveinse, sometimes some packages are kept back via a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:35] <sveinse> mkanyicy: That is what I'm doing. And it probably an error in the package deps. But I need to know why and where the error is
[10:36] <mkanyicy> which command are you running, sveinse? upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[10:36] <sveinse> dist-upgrade
[10:36] <mkanyicy> Calinou, what are you trying to do
[10:36] <Calinou> ctrl+alt+f1 then startx works, shows me the cursor and the desktop but nothing else
[10:36] <Calinou> fix my system, proably by switching to lightdm
[10:37] <oYeVoVeYo> If I install the pastebinit can it make my wired connection work?
[10:37] <Calinou> the desktop now shows, and icons/etc
[10:37] <metaspike> Calinou, from that terminal.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  - or sudo aptitude --reinstall purge gdm
[10:37] <metaspike> or some such.
[10:37] <mkanyicy> sveinse, im clueless then, good luck, thou
[10:38] <metaspike> maybe that was --reinstall install gdm :) cant remember :D
[10:38] <tristan1> can you get a run dialog to pop up with a certain key combo.. who knows what that combo is?
[10:38] <greenit> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on a ssd... now i want to know several things.... do i need to install anything for ssd-support for ubuntu, or does it recognize that i have a ssd and i don't need to do anything? the graphics are pretty laggy.. when i move a window it "jumps" around, although i have installed the graphics driver (nvidia gtx 570, proprietary driver installed)... how can i get rid of this?
[10:41] <wade>
[10:41] <tristan1> almoxarife: any idea where to look for these extensions
[10:42] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you do it in the past?
[10:42] <metaspikes> my connection drops out on regular basis. no rhyme no reason. anyone know how to troubleshoot such a crazy thing
[10:42] <tristan1> i didnt have to in the past.. i was using 10.04 before and it just worked then..
[10:43] <Calinou> works!!
[10:43] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you add or delete packages?
[10:43] <Calinou> thanks alot metaspike and tristan1
[10:43] <tristan1> calinou: great
[10:44] <metaspikes> tristan1: is there a common element in these package names?
[10:44] <tristan1> almoxarife: i can still add and remove packages.. but im not sure what that has to do with my applets..
[10:44] <greenit> my graphics-card driver does not work properly (i think). i installed the proprietary driver for nvidia, but, for example, when i move a window it is not smooth and fluently :(   can any1 help me plz?
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: iceroot: what do you think of this: http://pastebin.com/XqCdujZX
[10:45] <tristan1> metaspikes: im not looking at any packages that im aware of.. ill explore and see what i can come up with...
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ServerSage: iceroot: as you can see i got a japanese guy logged in executing an instance of apache. which isnt even installed. so a cmouflaged malware.
[10:46] <remoteCTRL> when i find this in ps aux, how do i find out hwat is really being executed?
[10:46] <stepnjump2> Rsync question.. if I just completed a full backup on an external HDD and just added a few files to my ubuntu workstation, will it just update differentially and exit or will it go through all files one by one?
[10:46] <tristan1> im using the basic ubuntu software center.. so im not sure what i should be looking for unless i replace the entire gnome-panel with compiz or awn or something else i dont want..
[10:48] <tristan1> further exploring shows that 11.10 has a different applet than 10.04 with the same name... how do i find the old applet.
[10:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: i guess someone is using an unsecure php-thing or something like that
[10:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: first you should kill that process
[10:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: this is absofreakinglutely amazing. we do have a firewall you know. atm i really have no clue how this japanese guy gets throught he firewall. so it HAS to be a trojan, right?
[10:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i did, noone logged in currently
[10:51] <tristan1> are gnome applets and gnome2 applets cross compatable
[10:52] <Krawlezt> Debia nerladdat, dock inte installerat :)
[10:52] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: or a masqeurade of some sort
[10:52] <iceroot> tristan1: you are talking about gnome2 and gnome3?
[10:52] <metaspikes> tristan1: not that im aware of
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: there is absolutely NOTHING let through the firewall into the red zone. only outgoing traffic, no ssh ingoing, nothing.
[10:53] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: have a look at /var/log/apache2/access.log and maybe /var/log/apache2/error.log maybe there is a hint how he get access to the system
[10:53] <tristan1> iceroot: yes.. are the applets for the sound and power adjustable.. i dont like the new ones.. i want my old applets from 10.04 back..
[10:53] <marios_> hello. does anyone know when kernel 3.1 will be available on the repos?
[10:53] <iceroot> tristan1: i dont thing so but maybe someone else nknows better
[10:53] <iceroot> marios_: never
[10:53] <marios_> why?
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: apache is NOT installed, just the malware camouflaged as apache
[10:53] <iceroot> marios_: there are only security-updates for an ubutnu-release
[10:54] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ah ok
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: within an ubuntu release you will never get major-updates (firefox and thunderbird are not affected by that rule)
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: is there a reason you need 3.1?
[10:54] <marios_> because there's an energy consumption problem since kernel v.3.0
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: since 2.6.38
[10:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is why i asked whether there is a possibility, if ps aux shows this line "visitor  pts/0    aa20061002063d78 Mon20   14:50m 14:48m 14:18m /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL" to find out what is REALLY running
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: which is not fixed in 3.1
[10:54] <Calinou> ok it works, but my notifications have been altered in some really bad way
[10:55] <Calinou> they're very big
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: the apache logs
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ps aux will not tell you what apache is doing
[10:55] <marios_> my battery is drained very quickly
[10:55] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: even if it isnt installed?? :D
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: its "installed"
[10:56] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but not with dpkg
[10:56] <sumit> hi happy new year folks
[10:56] <marios_> :) happy new year!
[10:56] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: /var/log/syslog gives me tons of these: Jan  3 09:23:39 kanabo kernel: [1298882.144166] ssh[15270]: segfault at 0 ip 08048e33 sp bfe33300 error 4 in ssh[8048000+c0000]
[10:56] <vouth> almoxarife: sorry to break the news to you but I'm back again. I can't even figure out how to connect to the Internet to download the package updates from the root shell prompt recovery console thingy. :-(
[10:57] <sumit> I installed ubuntu 11.10 with dual boot with windows and uncertainity the grub  is dissappeared how to resolve this problem
[10:57] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: what ubuntu-version?
[10:57] <iceroot> !grub | sumit
[10:57] <iceroot> sumit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:57] <vouth> almoxarife: I couldn't find any package fglrx-updates.
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: frankly spoken linux-mint, the latest, so ubuntu 11.10 basically...
[10:57] <iceroot> !mint | remoteCTRL
[10:58] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: we dont know what they are doing on there system so we can not and will not support mint here, sorry
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: give an admin a break dude, its the same system, and the only computer running mint, all others are ubuntu...
[10:58] <tristan1> iceroot: any idea where to look to see what version of the applet im using.. i should be able to type apt-get install gnome-power-applet or something along those lines..
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i do understand that! :)
[10:58] <almoxarife> vouth: if you type 'login' at the prompt you are one, what do you get?
[10:59] <vouth> almoxarife: "login: Cannot possibly work without effective root"
[10:59] <iceroot> tristan1: apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager
[10:59] <vouth> almoxarife: That's not the one that's having trouble though.
[10:59] <almoxarife> vouth: I assume you are hardwired to the internet?
[10:59] <tristan1> vouth: sudo login
[10:59] <fishyfantasy> Hello, I have a black Macbook 2,1. Can I install Ubuntu version 11.10? Is this the right section to ask....?
[11:00] <iceroot> !mac | fishyfantasy
[11:00] <vouth> almoxarife: This is my known-somewhat-good boot on a separate disk :-P Yes, I am. "autumnfairy-P4X400-8235 login: "
[11:00] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: have a look there about the support
[11:00] <fishyfantasy> Great, thanks!
[11:00] <almoxarife> vouth: the machine with the issues connected to the internet?
[11:01] <vouth> almoxarife: yup, in the other install.
[11:01] <vouth> almoxarife: Just so you know they're both maverick
[11:01] <tristan1> iceroot: thank you
[11:01] <almoxarife> vouth: the machine with the issues, you are at a root terminal?
[11:02] <asimoo> hi
[11:02] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: i dunno, have a look with wireshark or something. i wouldnt recommend running anything after 10.04 on a production machine either as there are more bugs and more secuirty issues
[11:02] <vouth> almoxarife: yup. They're the same machine, just different disks
[11:03] <tristan1> iceroot: any idea of how to roll back to an older version..
[11:03] <almoxarife> vouth: login to your user account from where you are
[11:03] <vouth> almoxarife: I choose what OS to boot using a Super GRUB disk because I haven't figured out yet how to make normal GRUB work :-S
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: only by hand with dpkg but that is normally not a good idea
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: because of dependencys
[11:03] <vouth> almoxarife: Uhm, no idea how. Sorry :~(
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: or do you mean an older ubuntu-version?
[11:03] <fishyfantasy> I have a Macbook 2,1 and can support up to Maverick only. Does that mean I cannot install Ubuntu 11.10 at all?
[11:03] <almoxarife> vouth: type login
[11:04] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: the upgrades are a pain in the a** but other than that we do love our ubuntu.
[11:04] <tristan1> iceroot: i was referring to just the applet.. think its not worth the trouble??
[11:04] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: that does only mean (imo) newer versions are not tested
[11:04] <vouth> almoxarife: Oh, like I did to get the login prompt earlier?
[11:04] <iceroot> tristan1: i think so too
[11:04] <almoxarife> vouth: type login
[11:05] <vouth> almoxarife: I ran sudo login; got back "autumnfairy-P4X400-8235 login:"
[11:05] <almoxarife> vouth: did I ask you to sudo?
[11:05] <tristan1> banshee-extension-soundmenu was what i was looking for it turns out... fixed it i think.. its in progress...
[11:05] <vouth> almoxarife: Earlier yes
[11:06] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: if you really want to secure a system, i recommend running bastilla and /or checksecurity also, as a easy way to righten security
[11:06] <almoxarife> vouth: presently?
[11:06] <vouth> almoxarife: Or excuse me, that was tristan1, sorry :-P
[11:06] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: sorry. bastille
[11:06] <almoxarife> vouth: one more time, you at root?
[11:06] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: interesting! are those like virus scans?
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: or more like ACL enforcement?
[11:07] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I see. I do get problems like sound and overheating in 11.10. I'm not sure if I can just stick to Maverick... can I install software like GIMP in the lastet version or I can get that only in 11.10?
[11:07] <vouth> almoxarife: nope; I assumed it. (Sorry, stupid.) No, I'm not. I'm logged in to the graphical OS on the other hard drive. If I want to log in to the root recovery prompt for the other system, I have to leave IRC and reboot the computer into the other drive
[11:07] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: you can install gimp for every ubuntu release
[11:07] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: no, clamav is the only antivirus really in the repo, those are security hardening programs that check permissions and other things that the default distrobutions where to pansy to impliment, or that become faulty as things get changed.
[11:07] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: at packages.ubuntu.com you can search for software and see in what releases the software is
[11:08] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: normally (and the common software always) is available for all ubuntu-releases
[11:08] <almoxarife> vouth: sounds complicated
[11:08] <vouth> almoxarife: That is, no, you did not presently ask me to use sudo, and no, I am not at a root prompt. Running login currently (without sudo) produces: "login: Cannot possibly work without effective root"
[11:08] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: the best for security is "not using ubuntu if not lts, not using forks of ubuntu, always installing security updates, always having doo passwords"
[11:09] <vouth> almoxarife: Basically I have two OSes dual-booting. One works, one doesn't. I'm chatting with you using the one that works. The one that doesn't is what we're chatting about.
[11:09] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: Thanks! I will think about whether to use 11.10 or 10.10.
[11:09] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: then you dont need any strange antivir, antirootkit or something like that
[11:09] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: i suggest you run powertop, bum, and ccsm - to ligthen the load and conserve power
[11:09] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: the support for 10.10 will end on 04.2012
[11:09] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: so you dont get updates after that
[11:09] <almoxarife> vouth: got it, so how can you be seeing errors? and pasting them?
[11:10] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: Oh, right. =(
[11:10] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: you can always use a live-cd to test if it is working well
[11:10] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: e.g. 11.10 as a live-cd
[11:10] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: Great, will google more about them =) thanks
[11:10] <vouth> almoxarife: Those errors only apply to the currently functional system. The broken one is dead as a doornail (I can't get X or networking on it).
[11:11] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: iceroot is also correct however, you gotta nip this on the bud i think that mint is a bad idea for you at this point. good luck
[11:11] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: also (only my opinion) ubuntu is bad for secure servers
[11:11] <vouth> almoxarife: That's what I meant when I said "That's not the one that's having trouble though." earlier.
[11:11] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: i would suggest debian instead of ubuntu
[11:11] <vouth> almoxarife: Probably I was unclear :-P
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: similar to monit, so to speak
[11:12] <almoxarife> vouth: make up my mind?
[11:12] <vouth> almoxarife: Or more accurately, *definitely* I was unclear.
[11:12] <metaspikes> debian stable - it might be 'dated' but at least its secure.
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: i am afraid you got a point there...
[11:12] <KinG`PiN> I used to like ubuntu, untill it started to look like OS X
[11:12] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I see. I did try it before installing. No sound when using Headphone but it works without headphone. Not sure how to fix that.
[11:12] <vouth> almoxarife: Uhm, wut? Sorry :-S Think I missed something there.
[11:12] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Huh?  I haven't said anything in like an hour.  Hehe.
[11:12] <AxonetBE> how can I see how much mails there are send with postfix?
[11:12] <almoxarife> vouth: when you are on the machine with the problems we talk, be resourceful, find a way to chat
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: definitely aggree on that; all our backends run on debian
[11:13] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: have a look in alsamixer for a headphone channel
[11:13] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: sounds like a common mute-isse, syou should have a look at "alsamixer"
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: the xen hosts as well as the guests...
[11:13] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: I installed alsamixer but it won't open.
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: erm sorry i guess i meant iceroot :D
[11:14] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I installed alsamixer but it won't open when I click it =(
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> i am stressed, damned! :D
[11:14] <metaspikes> laugh it off :)
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: do those apps require customization?
[11:14] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: open a terminal and run it there
[11:15] <vouth> almoxarife: To do that, I would have to be able to get the OS in question online. Unfortunately, the current issue *is* getting it online. Therefore, I can't find a way to chat until I know a way to connect to the Internet, which is why I am chatting now.
[11:15] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: balliste will ask you dozens of questions if you let it, it's pretty damn paranoid but i like that
[11:15] <almoxarife> vouth: you said it was different disks on same machine
[11:16] <dyd_> how can i "burn" a bootable iso on an usb drive?
[11:16] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, e and w options to ps show some more info that might be useful
[11:16] <almoxarife> dyd_: on a ubuntu machine right now?
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: suitable for servers then... how about checksecurity?
[11:16] <dyd_> almoxarife, yes
[11:16] <vouth> almoxarife: I should probably be going soon. It's 6 in the morning for me and time to go to bed. :-P Yes, it is. There are two operating systems. One is on one disk, one is on another. One can connect to the Internet and be used for chat, the other I don't know how to make connect (that is the one being diagnosed).
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: with or without the minus?
[11:17] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: it's suitable for hardening security, however if you stick with your current system, it may not suffice, checksecurity i dunno
[11:17] <dyd_> almoxarife, i tried unetbootin but i don't know why it won't copy the iso files in the usb, it just make the few boot files
[11:17] <Caifas> Hello guys,
[11:17] <Caifas> I'm trying to remaster ubuntu with uck but I'm having this problem "Cannot mount /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso/casper/filesystem.squashfs in /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-root-mount, error=32" and before that i have this warning "mount: warning: /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso-mount seems to be mounted read-only." but i have no ro mounted partition, anyone can give me a hand?
[11:17] <almoxarife> dyd_: look for 'start-disk-creator' I may not have the works in order
[11:17] <almoxarife> dyd_: words
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: iceroot: ok guys, the mint computer was an experiment, as noone here really seems to like unity, neither gnome 3, i think i will declare the experiment done...
[11:18] <almoxarife> vouth: the problem OS is what?
[11:19] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, I usually go with ps auxfwwe
[11:19] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: also have a look at your actual router's security permissions, that's your first line of defence after all.
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: we have ip-cop distro running as router, atm i am completely petrified about it, considering that this japanese guy smoehow obviously got through it
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> still not knowing whether my mint actually is a trojan horse -.-
[11:20] <almoxarife> remoteCTRL: yes, it is
[11:20] <metaspikes> nuke it
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> hell yeah i will
[11:21] <dyd_> almoxarife, i found it, but when i select the iso it won't load it (it's an mac os x iso)
[11:21] <theadmin> dyd_: Um, we don't support OS X here
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: i will consider your advise and try to start lauching now
[11:21] <tristan1> remoteCTRL: heard of dd-wrt?
[11:21] <vouth> almoxarife: Maverick 10.10, hostname 'blossom'. The functional OS is also Maverick 10.10, but it has the hostname 'autumnfairy-P4X400-8235'. I think of them by their hostnames because it's much easier than saying 'the Ubuntu Maverick that has x' or 'the Ubuntu Maverick that has y and z' or some such solution.
[11:21] <almoxarife> dyd_: nevermind, this is ubuntu
[11:21] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: it has nothing to do with disliking gnome3/unity
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> tristan1: sure have, and have openwrt running on my private linksys wrt54, but thanks for the hint! :)
[11:22] <fishyfantasy> Is BUM = Boot-Up Manager?
[11:22] <metaspikes> yes
[11:22] <almoxarife> FishFace: you may not be ready for BUM
[11:22] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: Thanks.
[11:22] <metaspikes> also, yes :)
[11:22] <tristan1> remoteCRTL: then couldnt you block his attempt using the wrt firewall..
[11:22] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but what does a gui has to do with a server?
[11:23] <dyd_> well, i'm not looking for support for mac, i just wanted to know if there's a way to burn an iso on an usb
[11:23] <dyd_> with ubuntu
[11:23] <metaspikes> dont disable anything u dont know what it is heh
[11:23] <iceroot> dyd_: dd
[11:23] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: well my customers were moaning and groaning about it, so i had to install xfce on a few and as said i wanted to see how mint behaves in the real world...
[11:23] <theadmin> dyd_: dd if=yourfile.iso of=yourusbstick, but... It won't boot :/ OS X doesn't work that way
[11:23] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: lxde is always a good choice :)
[11:23] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: BUM looks complicated heh
[11:24] <dyd_> thank you anyway, i'll google
[11:24] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I was not clear, you definitely are not ready for BUM, don't touch it
[11:24] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Sure thing
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is lightweight waht?
[11:24] <tristan1> dyd_: of course there is.. but mac and ubuntu have TONS of issues.. because apple doesnt want there software and hardware to be open.. its hard to find drivers and alot of hardware is basically unuasable..
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: lightweight x11 desktop environment
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: there is an ubuntu-reviat called lubuntu
[11:25] <almoxarife> dyd_: I assume you need to be using something that already has the base OS to create a same OS like disk
[11:25] <tristan1> with ubuntu you cant even hook up an apple cd burner and burn a ced... its a complicated task to get it going at least...
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: isnt that one veeery basic? like sawfish or so?
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no need for more then the basics i would say
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but it is more then just the basic
[11:26] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: gosh you dont know my customers...
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: show them unity, gnome3 and kde4
[11:26] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: thanks for the hint i will pursue this later on...
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: and then say "hey i have something which is just workiing without fancy stuff"
[11:26] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Hi, do you have any idea on how to solve my overheating issue on my MacBook 2,1? Using Ubuntu 11.10
[11:26] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I was not clear, you definitely are not ready for BUM, don't touch it <-- I am not trying to be facetious, make changes with BUM and you may never have a working system from then on
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is exactly what i was planning on doing, and then convince them all to use xfce :D
[11:27] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: yes or xfce which is similar to gnome2
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> it is
[11:27] <theadmin> remoteCTRL: Yep, XFCE's the way to go... KDE too, looks like Windows after all :D
[11:27] <dyd_> almoxarife, tristan1, i have done everything in virtual box (took days), but it's really too slow, so i want to try an installation in a partition, i have all i need, but my laptop dvd drive seems to have some problems with dvd
[11:27] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: I understand.
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> unity and gnome3 are such a mess... unfreakingbelievable...
[11:27] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: they are not
[11:27] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: yes, buy a new fancier apple thing, help apple, you do want to help apple don't you? ok, how about this, don't they have a walkin help center thing?
[11:28] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: almoxarife has a point, if you dont want to learn the fundimentals of linux (alot of people arent interested eh). powertop and ccsm are still good options to help with ur issue.
[11:28] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: just a matter of needs and likes
[11:28] <remoteCTRL> theadmin: hi there gal!
[11:28] <theadmin> remoteCTRL: Hey.
[11:28] <iceroot> theadmin: but kde looks like the bad windows (vista, 7) lxde looks like the good windows (98,xp)
[11:29] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: ccsm only effects the user account, BUM is the system, the whole enchillada
[11:29] <theadmin> iceroot: I wouldn't say 7 is bad honestly, but yeah, that's true
[11:29] <metaspikes> dyd_: qmeu-kvm has great virtualization speed if your cpu supports it...
[11:29] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Buying a $3999 laptop just for Ubuntu? Uh....thanks
[11:29] <tim_> I compiled irssi (0.8.15) from source. synaptics has only 0.8.14. How can i tell synaptic that i installed 0.8.15?
[11:29] <tristan1> dyd_: have you used unetbootin
[11:29] <xpsss> Ubuntu 11.10 Ubuntu attributes changes my external hard disks or partitions can not read and if I try to change attributes says you can not read-only
[11:29] <dyd_> iceroot: i've just installed lxde, clear and fast
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: yes they are! some actions have become so really cumbersome! ever treid to copy paste something from one window to another? most of our customers always have alot of windows open, and if you need to swap windows fequently they are absolutely useless...
[11:29] <iceroot> theadmin: only when you use a deb-file
[11:29] <tristan1> dyd_: easiest way i know of..
[11:29] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: you rock
[11:29] <theadmin> iceroot: wut?
[11:29] <iceroot> theadmin: wrong nick
[11:30] <iceroot> tim_: only when you use a deb-file
[11:30] <dyd_> tristan1, i tried, but it didn't work. i just found a guide about exactly what i need *finger crossed*
[11:30] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I am guessing the fancy walkin center with the coffee bar does not support ubuntu os apple things?
[11:30] <dyd_> metaspikes, i'll check that out
[11:30] <tim_> is there no way of telling synaptic "hey i already installed a new version. Tell me when there is a newer than that i have installed."? :/
[11:31] <theadmin> tim_: "checkinstall" instead of "make install".
[11:31] <theadmin> !checkinstall | tim_, read this
[11:31] <tristan1> dyd_: good luck...
[11:31] <tim_> ok thank you a lot!
[11:32] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: you are a trend setter, bravo, most people here probably (me included) have an idea how to make an apple do stuff, you can be the expert guy
[11:32] <hareldvd> Looking for a list of text based (terminal) editors other than the obvious. Thanks.
[11:32] <metaspikes> tim_: pif possible i would use... dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot . or at least - fakeroot checkinstal make install - to build the package after make, it's safter than sudo'ing it incase the build goes haywire.
[11:33] <tim_> ok
[11:33] <tim_> ill try that
[11:34] <almoxarife> theadmin: how does checkinstall keep installed packages current?
[11:34] <metaspikes> it doesn't v_v
[11:34] <theadmin> almoxarife: It doesn't. Unless a newer versions randomly appears in the repo
[11:34] <metaspikes> just dumps the installs under /usr/local
[11:35] <almoxarife> theadmin: then checkinstall does what?
[11:35] <theadmin> almoxarife: Builds a deb package
[11:35] <almoxarife> theadmin: ic, I assume tim was not compiling
[11:38] <almoxarife> I am trying to use the logs from here to create a point and click answer for every obvious question and answer there is ( why?? cause its there), who's with me?
[11:39]  * metaspikes stares blankly at the tumbleweed
[11:43] <AziaBurgi> hello guys, our server was turned off over the holidays and today i can't get mysql to restart at all. i am getting this error: Could not connect: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2). Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
[11:43] <metaspikes> almoxarife: im kidding. it's a good idea, maybe a page with git access so we can contribute through actions! (talk -is- cheap afterall)
[11:43] <dyd_> what filesystems are compatible between linux and mac? for files larger than 4 gbs
[11:43] <AziaBurgi> ntfs?
[11:44] <dyd_> can't understand why it's not recognized by mac
[11:44] <almoxarife> metaspikes: I tried using git locally, I gave up. something about it is evil
[11:46] <AziaBurgi> what about FAT32 i know its old school but i seem to remember a mac friend of mine saying he has to use that
[11:46] <almoxarife> AziaBurgi: disk full?
[11:46] <tristan1> w
[11:47] <AziaBurgi> almoxarife: no plenty of space here
[11:47] <metaspikes> almoxarife: svn? has to be something, somewhere. start the project on sourceforge maybe, give it a name etc.
[11:47] <cece> I got lilyterm run with transparent background as fullscreen ,that's awesome ! Amazing experience
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> AziaBurgi, Max file size for FAT32 is 4 Gb.
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> ah
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> well no idea then
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> maybe split the file?
[11:49] <metaspikes> dyd_: im pretty sure HFS is supported by both
[11:49] <almoxarife> dyd_: ntfs?
[11:50] <dyd_> almoxarife, i'm installing a sw called NTFS-3G to make ntfs work on mac
[11:50] <dyd_> metaspikes, can i format a pen drive in ubuntu with HFS filesystem?
[11:51] <metaspikes> yes you can
[11:52] <metaspikes> see hfsutils and hfsprogs
[11:52] <metaspikes> and gparted will do the rest
[11:52] <dyd_> thank you
[11:53] <dyd_> AziaBurgi, FAT32 won't work with files larger than 4 gbs
[11:54] <metaspikes> i think mac might also support xfs, which has its perks.. not sure though eh
[11:54] <jiltdil> webcam is not capturing audio sound?Please help to fix it. I am using logitech c270h model
[11:54] <almoxarife> dyd_: http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/ <-- look
[11:55] <farout542> Using remote desktop, is there a way to make my machine reachable from over the internet?  Currently it shows that it will only be available via local network.
[11:55] <almoxarife> jiltdil: the web cam is part of your machine?
[11:55] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  i have connected it to my cpu
[11:56] <dyd_> almoxarife, thanks
[11:56] <almoxarife> jiltdil: connected usb? the webcam has builtin mic?
[11:56] <jiltdil> almoxarife, yes
[11:56] <metaspikes> farout542: you can, but you will have to open a port on the router and direct that to your machine then use your routers internet ip address to connect to that machine externally. go that? :D
[11:57] <almoxarife> jiltdil: and how did you record what ever it is that didn't work?
[11:57] <farout542> metaspikes: will give that a try thanks!!
[11:58] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  i use mplayer and use dekstop recorder for recording mplaye command is    mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=1600 :height=900 device=/dev/video0
[11:58] <eutheria> why can't i change the remote desktop resolution in vinagre 3.2.1?
[11:58] <almoxarife> jiltdil: perhaps it was not recording, what tells you the mic is not working
[11:58] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  it is saying no audio
[11:59] <metaspikes> jiltdil: use mencoder instead.
[11:59] <almoxarife> jiltdil: don't see sound accounted for on that line? should it be there?
[11:59] <jiltdil> metaspikes,  please tell how to i have no idea about mencoder?
[12:00] <almoxarife> jiltdil: don't see sound accounted for on that line? should it be there?
[12:01] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  yes may be sound mopt accounted . Please help me
[12:01] <metaspikes> mencoder is like mplayer in reverse :) it's great
[12:02] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  see this and the audio say no sound   at line 41
[12:02] <jiltdil> http://pastebin.com/QtYUBssR
[12:02] <equex> i'm miffed that practically any Linux distro the last 3 years dont work on my computer. no idea what they did
[12:02] <almoxarife> jiltdil: is the point to make it really hard to do what ever you are doing or to get it done? I don't have issues with 'vlc' but I also have a mic that works and configured so the system sees it
[12:02] <equex> but i think they dropped a lot of chipset support
[12:03] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  recording with external mike is working but with the webcam mic it is not working
[12:04] <almoxarife> jiltdil: you meant , the external mic does not work but the internal does? yes
[12:04] <equex> anyway, recent kernels cant see my hard disks.
[12:04] <psalden> hey. I am running oneiric and radeon drivers and when I return from suspend, the desktop is all glitchy. 'unity --replace' fixes this. Is there a more elegant, or at least more automatic way of getting this done?
[12:04] <metaspikes> jiltdil: mencoder -tv driver=v4l2:width=1600:height=900:device=/dev/video0 -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -ffourcc XVID -vf pp=lb -o output.avi tv://   - you will have to specify a capture device with alsamixer (or such) and you might have to use :adevice=/dev/<somethin> also
[12:05] <equex> regular SATA disks on a SB600 south bridge. worked fine in Ubuntu 8 and 9 perhaps. but 8 was great for sure
[12:05] <jiltdil> metaspikes,  thanks a lot :)
[12:05] <inenoo> mohamed
[12:06] <almoxarife> metaspikes: all that work, does it make coffee too?
[12:06] <metaspikes> i used a similar command to rip vhs tapes, but alas i must make my own coffee :(
[12:07] <almoxarife> metaspikes: vhs? what's that? :)
[12:07] <metaspikes> vcr tapes?... ferris bueller's day off?
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> Video Home System, as opposed to Sony's Beta-Max; video tape formats.
[12:08] <JDuke128> hi
[12:10] <almoxarife> hi'
[12:11] <metaspikes> psalden: you could fix your video issue or you could put your command somewhere under /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/ , assuming you use pm-utils im not sure
[12:11] <EuroNerd> how do I verify that a specific piece of software (e.g. vsftpd) is installed on my Ubuntu?
[12:12] <metaspikes> EuroNerd:   dpkg-query -l | grep vsftpd  - is one way
[12:12] <equex> does anyone know if there are projects that are based on Ubuntu 8.x LTS that are still alive?
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> equex, 8.x is EOL, with the exception of 8.04 Server, which goes EOL in 04-2013.
[12:16] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: the less intrusive way would be thru software center on 11.10
[12:16] <PoNuts> Seem that i have a printerproblem
[12:16] <PoNuts> when sending job to the HPmfp 6410 it continues to print...
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | PrinceofPersia
[12:17] <psalden> metaspikes: thanks. I have no idea how to fix that video issue; I always assumed it to be a faulty driver problem. As for the mechanism for suspend I'm using, it's just oneiric's default I guess. I simply click suspend in the menu at the upper right :)
[12:17] <PoNuts> never stop, if I'm not goingin to delete the job from print command
[12:17] <almoxarife> PoNuts: prints what?
[12:18] <PoNuts> this time a picture.. before that i tried with gedit
[12:18] <almoxarife> PoNuts: prints what? what does it print once the picture is done printing?
[12:18] <PoNuts> it a ipp://printer
[12:18] <PoNuts> it repeat it self...
[12:19] <almoxarife> PoNuts: it prints multiple pictures
[12:19] <PoNuts> I've tried to expecit marked that i only one one copy.. doesnt matter
[12:19] <PoNuts> almoxarife: correct
[12:20] <almoxarife> PoNuts: could the hardware(printer) be defaulting to multiple copies?
[12:21] <vatzec> Hi. I'm having the following issue: I am connected to a network, and I can connect to computers inside that network, but I can't connect to external hosts, though I can ping them. Here is an example ping response: http://pastebin.com/i4krci9F . Do you know what the issue is?
[12:21] <cece>   /quit
[12:23] <PoNuts> Haven found that yet.. Ive tried to change the driver from postscript to non postscript.
[12:23] <almoxarife> vatzec: something easy, can you web browse?
[12:24] <almoxarife> PoNuts: changed drivers because?
[12:24] <PoNuts> just to try.
[12:25] <PoNuts> i did a test page before.. and that came out only one.
[12:25] <almoxarife> PoNuts: how about now, do a test page
[12:26] <metaspikes> vatzec: bad /etc/hosts ? could be a dns fault...
[12:26] <PoNuts> lets try
[12:26] <PoNuts> it came in the print que and disapeared..
[12:26] <PoNuts> no sound from the printer more..
[12:27] <PoNuts> everything in order.. so far.
[12:28] <PoNuts> told me that a HP cl cm6040 MFP
[12:30] <PoNuts> i try a webpage now.. let see..
[12:30] <metaspikes> is there a way to scroll up with xterm even though there's stuff being written to it?
[12:30] <PoNuts> vanished again.. so good so far almoxarife
[12:30] <vatzec> metaspikes: I was thinking it has to do with routing, i.e. `route`
[12:31] <vatzec> metaspikes: All my /etc/hosts has is just localhost and my computer's name entries
[12:31] <metaspikes> PoNuts: restarted the service/system since driver install? sudo service cups restart
[12:31] <ylmfos> Hallo zusammen !
[12:32] <ylmfos> hello !!
[12:32] <vatzec> metaspikes: Funny enough, when I'm in another room, near the main router, I guess, it does work, as if when connecting through the main router, it doesn't need that specific routing.
[12:32] <vatzec> (It's a wifi network.)
[12:33] <vatzec> almoxarife: No
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> PoNuts, First you said "HPmfp 6410", then above "HP cl cm6040 MFP", I wonder if that's not the problem..
[12:33] <almoxarife> vatzec: dns
[12:33] <PoNuts> sry..
[12:33] <ylmfos> mein os ist super !!
[12:34] <iceroot> !de | ylmfos
[12:34] <A_J> Sidewinder1 what's the odds you are related to sidewindercomputers ?
[12:34] <vatzec> almoxarife: Are you sure? I can ping hosts from outside of my network by their hostnames, such as google.pl
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> A_J, none. :-)
[12:34] <A_J> :( nvm then
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> np
[12:34] <metaspikes> vatzec: you could probably add the router you want to hosts, it -might- im unfamiliar sadly
[12:35] <PoNuts> Seems that i did chose back to postscript, and let my fingers not touch any tweaking... the paper got out ok.
[12:36] <almoxarife> vatzec: true, so you got dns for ping but not the browser?
[12:36] <PoNuts> Thx.. almoxarife:
[12:36] <vatzec> almoxarife: Did you read that link I have sent to the channel? Yep, I can't browse or telnet, but I can ping.
[12:36] <vatzec> almoxarife: Though I get an extra message as a result with every ping.
[12:37] <vatzec> almoxarife: Neither can I connect to an external host using its IP address.
[12:37] <almoxarife> vatzec: I see you are at a school
[12:37] <vatzec> Yep
[12:38] <almoxarife> vatzec: does that school firewall outgoing traffic??
[12:38] <vatzec> almoxarife: Possibly, why?
[12:38] <ubuntu> wow did i really just get onto the ubuntu server with nick ubuntu?
[12:38] <ubuntu> impressive
[12:39] <A_J> lol
[12:39] <d3ngar> Hi there, new problem for me in Ubuntu 10.11: I can't hold backspace down to delete text
[12:39] <d3ngar> It's frustrating
[12:39] <d3ngar> Who can keep hammering backspace to delete text?
[12:40] <almoxarife> vatzec: when did you first notice the issue?
[12:40] <vatzec> almoxarife: At the beginning of the school year
[12:40] <vatzec> almoxarife: But I should note that I have also freshly installed Ubuntu on this laptop then.
[12:41] <PoNuts> a small joke to thx to rest of you "CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh."
[12:41] <vatzec> almoxarife: Before that, it also ran Ubuntu, but another version.
[12:41] <almoxarife> vatzec: is there a webserver within the school? something you can see thru a web browser?
[12:41] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes
[12:42] <ubuntu> hey is irc.ubuntu.com a node of freenode?
[12:42] <vatzec> almoxarife: I think it's in a building relatively far from here, in a different part of town, but within the domain uj.edu.pl
[12:42] <metaspikes> d3ngar: something is interuppting it?
[12:42] <d3ngar> metaspikes: not that I could tell?
[12:43] <d3ngar> I'ts not just this keyboard, it's another one too
[12:43] <almoxarife> vatzec: it could be in another country, but within your domain
[12:43] <vatzec> almoxarife: Maybe
[12:43] <PoNuts> d3ngar: does it delete one character nothing happens?
[12:43] <metaspikes> is there a gnome thingy that configures keyboard on your system?
[12:43] <almoxarife> vatzec: you at the school right now?
[12:43] <d3ngar> One chartacter at the time
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu, Yes, Freenode.
[12:44] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes
[12:44] <ubuntu> is there anyway to show overall progress for rsync but not the individual files as they transfer? As in if i do --progress it shows me all the files as they transfer, if i do -q --progress, it shows me nothing o.O
[12:44] <Solshine> came here, then exited 'cause I thought I found the solution on Google, but I was wrong - I'm trying to install a brand new Windows XP installation on a computer that currently has Ubuntu on it, and is devoid of a working CD-ROM reader. My only option is to use a USB stick atm. Is it possible at all?
[12:44] <PoNuts> d3ngar: try to start systemsettings/ keyboard
[12:44] <almoxarife> vatzec: you connect to the server no problem, its outside your domain
[12:44] <Solshine> Version of Ubuntu on the computer currently is 11.x
[12:45] <PoNuts> d3ngar: and then swap to youre window and try repeat funktion again.
[12:45] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'm the administrator of a server at the uni
[12:45] <d3ngar> PoNuts:No, each character needs a new keystroke
[12:45] <vatzec> almoxarife: A students' one
[12:45] <d3ngar> PoNuts: it's annoying
[12:46] <vatzec> almoxarife: And it has a connection
[12:46] <almoxarife> vatzec: so what is the answer, do you firewall port 80 connections ?
[12:46] <PoNuts> d3ngar: belive so.. i had the same, then in  a strange way i unactiated a mouse funktion in my vmware... I use ubuntu as the main OS
[12:46] <PoNuts> and it start to work.
[12:47] <d3ngar> PoNuts: I also use Ubuntu as the main OS
[12:47] <almoxarife> vatzec: it would be interesting to see if TOR worked in your case :)
[12:47] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'm not the admin of the network, but of a single server for students'
[12:47] <d3ngar> I have a VM running, but this problem is occuring on all machines that I have 10.11 on
[12:47] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'll try
[12:48] <almoxarife> vatzec: you must have info on what is and what is not firewalled, my god man, you are an admin!
[12:48] <vatzec> almoxarife: Haha. :D But the server might be in a completely different place.
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: It's a server for a student organization.
[12:49] <almoxarife> vatzec: I am not condoning the use of TOR, I meant it in a strictly educational way
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: TOR works, but takes a while at step "10%"
[12:49] <ubuntu> almoxarife: what's wrong with tor?
[12:49] <PoNuts> d3ngar: As quick as i open the keyboard-settings with repeat key and touch a control .. it worked for me.
[12:49] <boru> Afternoon all. I'm trying to compile my application on 11.10 but it's currently failing to link against gtkmm3. I've got `pkg-config --libs gtkmm-3.0` in my Makefile.am and it works at the terminal to do it manually. Can anyone suggest what might be the issue? I symlinked /bin/sh to /bin/bash as I thought dash wasn't expaning the backticks but still no luck.
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: ... which it doesn't normally.
[12:49] <almoxarife> ubuntu: nothing, its great
[12:50] <ubuntu> almoxarife: even for non educational purposes...
[12:50] <d3ngar> touch control?
[12:50] <almoxarife> ubuntu: thought of changing your nick?
[12:50] <boru> I'll add that it compiles everywhere else I've tried it, just not on ubuntu.
[12:50] <d3ngar> PoNuts: Yes you are right!
[12:50] <ubuntu> almoxarife: na :p i quite like having ubuntu in #ubuntu
[12:50] <d3ngar> What can I do about this?
[12:51] <PoNuts> I disabled in vmware and starting to use ctrl+g
[12:51] <d3ngar> ??
[12:52] <d3ngar> PoNuts: What do you mean by "disabled (it) in VMWare and starting to use ctrl+g
[12:52] <Negat1ve-Zer0> kind of curious, anyone familiar with buffer overflows and ubuntu 11.10? I was testing a program I wrote to test buffer overflows and what happens exactly, depending on the size of the overflow it appears I get different resulting messages so I was wondering if anyone's familiar with that
[12:52] <murrayc> boru: What's the actual error that you see?
[12:54] <Negat1ve-Zer0> and also, anyone know why if I write over a char[10] buffer by say 4 or 5 bytes...it still doesn't run into my next memory array
[12:54] <boru> murrayc, it's a whole host of linker errors for gtkmm types. This works everywhere else, I'm just wondering why it doesn't on ubuntu. I replaces the /bin/sh symlink with one to bash but it's still not expanding the pkg-config command seemingly. I've installed the relevant packages.
[12:54] <iceroot> Negat1ve-Zer0: maybe ##c or ##c++ is better for that
[12:55] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ok, I'll try there I went to #c++ but got a cannot send to channel
[12:55] <boru> I see you dropped out after before message, murrayc
[12:55] <iceroot> !register | Negat1ve-Zer0
[12:55] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ah
[12:55] <PoNuts> d3ngar:  I did uncheck a crossbox (dont recall which), than I hvae to use ctrl+g to activate the controll, this has been a slight...better way than the reapet function not be enabled.
[12:56] <boru> I don't want to spam, can I msg you murrayc?
[12:56] <iceroot> Negat1ve-Zer0: that should fix the issue
[12:56] <Negat1ve-Zer0> iceroot: thanks
[12:56] <murrayc> boru: Use some pastebin.
[12:56] <boru> My message wasn't output, murrayc.
[12:56] <boru> murrayc, it's a whole host of linker errors for gtkmm types. This works everywhere else, I'm just wondering why it doesn't on ubuntu. I replaces the /bin/sh symlink with one to bash but it's still not expanding the pkg-config command seemingly. I've installed the relevant packages.
[12:57] <boru> Autotools is the same version as everywhere else
[12:57] <boru> So I'm a bit stumped
[12:57] <murrayc> boru: Why aren't you just doing PKG_CHECK_MODULES() in configure.ac?
[12:58] <boru> murrayc, I'm not trying to enforce a minimum version, I'm passing flags to gcc.
[12:59] <PoNuts> d3ngar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81296/repeat-key-functionality-doesnt-work
[13:00] <no_gravity> Hello! Is sound-juicer still the default way to rip CDs?
[13:00] <no_gravity> Im on Ubuntu 10 I think and I would like to convert a CD to mp3s. There seems to be no default app for that.
[13:01] <boru> Did you get my last message, murrayc?
[13:02] <murrayc> no
[13:02] <metaspikes> boru: i normally take a look at the Makefile and change/add flags there
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, Look in your repos., for Sound Converter.
[13:02] <boru> I'm not trying to enforce a minimum version, I'm passing flags to gcc.
[13:02] <murrayc> boru: There is no need to enforce a minimum version when using PKG_CHECK_MODULES(). But you should enforce a minimum version.
[13:02] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: if there is nothing already installed, i could just do "apt-get sound-juicer". if there is already something installed, i would use it.
[13:03] <vatzec> almoxarife: Do you have any ideas how to determine what's wrong?
[13:03] <boru> I'm not at the point of freezing binaries just yet.
[13:03] <boru> But my problem remains, is there any reason why the pkg-config command wouldn't expand properly?
[13:04] <murrayc> boru: You should be using PKG_CHECK_MODULES(). And I have not seen the error and I have not seen any of your files.
[13:04] <boru> Like I said, I redirected that /bin/sh symlink to bash.
[13:04] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, I'm on 10.04 and I use Sound Converter; not sure if it was installed by default or I downloaded and installed, in Synaptic.
[13:04] <almoxarife> vatzec: what would 'right' be, specifically
[13:04] <vatzec> almoxarife: Why I can't connect to servers outside my network
[13:05] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: "sound converter" - it would be rather unusual for a command to have a whitespace in the name. whats the name of it?
[13:05] <s4lt-n-p3pr> hi
[13:05] <almoxarife> vatzec: you can, you are connected to freenode, it's a server
[13:05] <s4lt-n-p3pr> can some one halp me
[13:06] <vatzec> almoxarife: OK, but I'm connecting through an external server
[13:06] <boru> I'll give that a shot instead, murrayc. It's something I'd overlooked. Thanks.
[13:06] <vatzec> almoxarife: my computer -> SSH to a server which is in the same network but has Internet connectivity -> IRC
[13:06] <owenll> ask! | s4lt-n-p3pr
[13:06] <murrayc> boru: There are lots of gtkmm-using projects that you can look at, for an example. Glom is my own.
[13:06] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, It's SoundConverter 1.4.4, it's a gnome program.
[13:06] <prizm> does the qemu-kvm package work on amd64 hardware without VT?
[13:07] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: ok, i dont have it. i installed soundjuicer now.
[13:08] <almoxarife> vatzec: you just said it, you don't have internet connectivity and you are at a school, someone does not care to provide you with connectivity? why not use the same ssh to internet connect to what ever it is you are wanting to get at?
[13:09] <boru> I'm pretty ok with gtkmm murrayc. I was just a bit puzzled as to why this wasn't building here. I normally leave more up to automake, but I'll see if autoconf will do what I need. I appreciate the suggestion though.
[13:09] <vatzec> almoxarife: Because it's a nasty hack, requiring the use of another machine, while this shouldn't be necessary.
[13:09] <EuroNerd> Is installing ubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu Server a bad idea?
[13:09] <almoxarife> vatzec: you just said you ssh into someone else at the school, being nasty already
[13:09] <dr_willis> i set up a znc (irc bouncer) :) its handy and not a hack. but it depends on your needs/
[13:09] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes. And I'd like to avoid this.
[13:10] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  you just basically install the ubuntu-desktop package to turn it into a desktop type install.   Normally its best to do a desktop install first. then install the services you need.
[13:10] <theadmin> EuroNerd: It's fine
[13:10] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  but it shoudl work either way.
[13:10] <vatzec> dr_willis: I have a different problem, but thanks. :)
[13:10] <EuroNerd> ok, thanks
[13:10] <flatline> hi, is Ubuntu Liquid project still active? if so, is there an IRC channel for it?
[13:11] <dr_willis> flatline:  never heard of it :)
[13:11] <flatline> dr_willis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/UbuntuLiquid here
[13:11] <almoxarife> vatzec: someone does not want you on the internet, you are not going to get to it without some creativity( I am not condoning any act which is a crime in poland either), so, what to do? got ze/nmap? :)
[13:11] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, from what I've read somewhere, there are actually some fundamental differences between Server and Desktop (like context switch frequency), so I preferred to get a proper Server first and now am considering to make my life easier by adding GUI.
[13:11] <metaspikes> EuroNerd: i digress :) in case of limited resources,, it would make sense to load the desktop elements to the server selectively.
[13:12] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  that would most likely be depending on the kernel you are using.
[13:12] <EuroNerd> metaspikes, I wouldn't know how to do that, I'm a total newbie :)
[13:12] <vatzec> almoxarife: No. :) But I am authorized to have access to Internet here. It's just that for some, probably software-ish reason, I can't access it.
[13:12] <flatline> EuroNerd: gui is always a bad choice in a server environment in the long run
[13:12] <theadmin> flatline: It's not even released yet. It's not dead, but I don't think a channel will exist for a non-existing project. When some initial release is made, we'll have one
[13:12] <EuroNerd> flatline, why?
[13:12] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  why did you do a server install if you are a total newbie?
[13:12] <flatline> EuroNerd: once you set it up you will always regret having to use GUI to do stuff on it
[13:12] <almoxarife> vatzec: those admins, you just can't trust them, always making it hard on the little people
[13:13] <flatline> just have your time and do it on cli
[13:13] <flatline> totally worth it.
[13:13] <almoxarife> vatzec: tor didn't work?
[13:13] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, because I want to play with node.js
[13:13] <vatzec> almoxarife: It did connect to the directory server, get the list of nodes and say it's ready.
[13:13] <dr_willis> No idea what node.js is.. or why it would not work on a desktop install.
[13:14] <almoxarife> vatzec: there you go, you are set
[13:14] <vatzec> almoxarife: But still, I should have normal access to the Internet here, without such hacks, as my friends do. Do you have any ideas what I could do in my situation?
[13:14] <almoxarife> vatzec: move in with your friends?
[13:14] <vatzec> But this is indeed a step forward. :)
[13:14] <flatline> theadmin: I'm interested in the project, also would like to contribute since I will be using it on a work project if that goes well. :(
[13:14] <vatzec> It's a wifi in the uni building.
[13:14] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, node.js is a language for running websites, like PHP.  (To be specific, it's server-side javascript. :)
[13:15] <theadmin> Speaking of the server edition.... I see Ubuntu as a highly desktop-oriented distro. As such, the server edition might suffer from having insufficent support. Is that so?
[13:15] <flatline> also, has the patch for hashDoS started rolling?
[13:15] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  i dont see any real reason why that wouldent work on a desktop install. but if you want to install teh full ubuntu desktop on a 'server' it should work
[13:15] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, I'm pretty sure it would run on Desktop too - anything could probably run on desktop, I just want to do it the "right" way. ;)
[13:16] <Eimann> morning. does ubuntu 11.10 alternate installer do automatic alignment to 4K boundaries?
[13:16] <raven> rescuing data from fat32 partitions - which tool is able to?
[13:16] <flatline> theadmin: nope, indeed I've been using fedora for our server instances for a long time and started using ubuntu-server for the last 3-6 months. ubuntu-server support is pretty much superior to any other distro server edition.
[13:16] <theadmin> EuroNerd: The "right" way is to install server tools on desktop, not vice versa
[13:16] <dr_willis> raven:  done it befor with 'ddrescue' and a lot of time/patience.
[13:16] <theadmin> raven: photorec (part of the "testdisk" package)
[13:16] <EuroNerd> theadmin, I didn't know that.
[13:16] <raven> theadmin, ok tnx
[13:16] <raven> dr_willis, yes i did already
[13:17] <EuroNerd> theadmin, dr_willis, either way, I'm actually running two VMs in parallel, one with Desktop, the other one with Server, just to increase my chances I get node.js to work eventually.  :]
[13:17] <dr_willis> i recovered 2+TB of data from a external usb once. :)  then the silly usb started working right...  the workout must of scared it.. :)
[13:20] <lalagirl> hi? is anyone there?
[13:20] <theadmin> lalagirl: Many people :D
[13:20] <boru> murrayc, I'm beginning to suspect there is something further amiss here. Even using that autoconf macro instead, the linker doesn't seem to be able to find the gtkmm types. I've installed the *-dev package for gtkmm3 so I'm at a loss to explain this one. What do you think?
[13:21] <lalagirl> theadmin okay thanks.
[13:21] <Motafoca> guys, i changed the plymouth theme and recreated the initramfs and i still get the purple image on boot, suggestions? ubuntu 11.10....
[13:23] <valadares> is there any other network manager for linux (wireless/wired/3g) in addition to the network manager?
[13:23] <Resistance> valadares:  wicd i think is one
[13:23] <metaspikes> purple screen of death :p Motafoca, does recovery mode work?
[13:24] <valadares> wicd support 3g?
[13:24] <valadares> Resistance: wicd support 3g?
[13:24] <Resistance> valadares:  i'm not sure what you mean by 3g
[13:25] <Resistance> valadares:  do you mean mobile broadband, like a wireless 3g network adapter (similar to ones from Verizon, Sprint, etc.)
[13:25] <Motafoca> metaspikes: whavent tried, but whats the idea?
[13:25] <prizm> does the qemu-kvm package work on amd64 hardware without VT? i'd like to know, my processor doesn't have it
[13:25] <valadares> Resistance: yes,is it
[13:26] <prizm> i know in Debian the KVM and software emulators are split, not in ubuntu
[13:26] <iceroot> prizm: it should because qemu does not need ct-v (imo) i think its a good idea to see also #kvm
[13:26] <Resistance> valadares:  i dont use wicd, i'm not sure if it supports "3G" (as you call it, I call it Mobile Broadband)
[13:26] <Resistance> i can find out though
[13:26] <Resistance> *pulls up his Google-fu*
[13:26] <evilkid> hi
[13:26] <boru> murrayc, spotted my mistake.  Thanks again.
[13:27] <NimeshNeema> good GUI editors for ubuntu. Will be using mostly for coding in various languages
[13:27] <valadares> Resistance: i already use it, but i don't found a option to manage mobile broadband
[13:27] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: emacs
[13:27] <NimeshNeema> GUI text editors
[13:27] <Resistance> !wicd | valadares
[13:27] <Resistance> bleh
[13:27] <Resistance> valadares:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[13:27] <Resistance> it cant manage 3g
[13:27] <evilkid> how can i install a sagem wifi driver under ubuntu? (i already download a tar.bz2 file, i just need to know how to install it)
[13:28] <Resistance> says so in the upstream code docs and the wiki
[13:28] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: way too intimidating. what are my options
[13:28] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: you said "good"
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: you can also use eclipse, gedit, notepad++
[13:29] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: i didn't said BEST
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: if you asked for the best editor, of course the answer would be vim :)
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: a, gvim, it has a gui :)
[13:29] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: didn't knew notepad++ was available for Linux
[13:29] <metaspikes> Motafoca: purge the theme and probably get a generic kernel back
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: imo i saw it for linux
[13:30]  * almoxarife still prefers the win3.1 notepad for really critical work
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: :-( only for windows
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: then use gvim
[13:31] <Motafoca> metaspikes: its generic ;s
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: okies
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: or maybe have a look at "kate" too, i like it very much, or gedit
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: but if you want a REAL editor there are only emacs and vim for powerfull things
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: gedit is my current editor...
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: agree
[13:33] <Motafoca> metaspikes: let me make it simpler, how to remove the purple image? i dont care if its verbose, but on grub the verbose only shows kernel info after the kernel is loaded, before that i get purple image :S
[13:33] <Motafoca> i believe its because of the theme inside the initram
[13:33] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you want to disable the ubuntu load screen that's purple?
[13:34] <Resistance> Motafoca:  after grub, that is.
[13:34] <Resistance> Motafoca:  if so, i might have a solution for you
[13:34] <almoxarife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciTE <-- under-stated
[13:34] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: for a powerfull IDE you could have a look at "eclipse" not everyones favoritie but a powerfull IDE
[13:35] <Motafoca> Resistance: yes!
[13:35] <evilkid> anyone?,
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> Well, looks like openprinting.org is 'down', again.. :-(
[13:35] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[13:35]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs.
[13:35] <Motafoca> Resistance: i wanted to replace, but since its not working, i rather remove ;)
[13:35] <evilkid> ....can anyone help me with this.?
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  so you want to see basically the text that identifies the thing loading and what not?  in GRUB there's no way atm to remove the purple background behind it.
[13:36] <Hackmyi> hey all
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you can remove the "ubuntu" loading screen with the orange/white dots though
[13:36] <Hackmyi> anyone own a iphone ?
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  that'd be done by your grub defaults
[13:36] <Resistance> Hackmyi:  ipodtouch, close enough.  why?
[13:36] <evilkid> omfg >.> im invisible ...
[13:37] <Motafoca> Resistance: how to do that?
[13:37] <Hackmyi> have youi ever jailbroken your device ?
[13:37] <almoxarife> evilkid: you have the file, and what is it you are suppose to do with it? what file? specific
[13:37] <Resistance> Motafoca:  gimme a sec, i have to find the conf file to edit
[13:37] <iceroot> Hackmyi: offtopic here
[13:38] <Resistance> Hackmyi:  yes, and it near bricked my device.  why?  also, if its not ubuntu-related, try ##apple
[13:38] <iceroot> Hackmyi: best is to buy products which dont need a jailbreak first to work as you want it
[13:38] <AFD> I'm having issues with bluetooth - was initially connected to a BT speaker, then couldn't connect so tried to unpair and repair. now Ubuntu says it is paired but I can't connect or see it in the dropdown / sound settings
[13:38] <AFD> any help please
[13:38] <evilkid> almoxarife : finally, well i have a zb1211.tar.bz2 , now i guess im suppose to extract it somewhere, but idk how and where, i remeber doing this when i first got it, but now i forgot how
[13:38] <evilkid> ...
[13:38] <iceroot> evilkid: right click on the file and choose extract
[13:39] <evilkid> iceroot: to where ..
[13:39] <iceroot> evilkid: doesnt matter
[13:39] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: is kate available only for KDE
[13:39] <evilkid> iceroot ..
[13:39] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: no for every desktop
[13:40] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: all packages/programs in the ubuntu repos can be used with every desktop
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: i edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:40] <iceroot> evilkid: the place is not important, you have to compile it after you extraetced it
[13:40] <Motafoca> removed the theme stuff
[13:40] <Motafoca> kinda solved
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you shouldnt edit that file unfortunately
[13:40] <iceroot> evilkid: or do other things with it, there should be a README or INSTALL file with a docu
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  that file gets regenerated when a kernel gets installed iirc
[13:40] <metaspikes> AFD, I use a package called bluez, although its a debian thing so dunno
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: i know but i hate grub2 :)
[13:40] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: thanks a lot
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  i asked this on Ubuntu Forums, so i'm going to go find that thread
[13:40] <Resistance> gimme a sec
[13:40] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: but of course some programs pulling some libs with them
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: :)
[13:40] <svetlanak> exit
[13:41] <AFD> metaspikes: have you ever had similar problems? being unable to connect etc
[13:41] <Motafoca> now i need to figure out why the hell the theme i added didnt work :s
[13:41] <linkux> wo ist der deutsche channel
[13:41] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: e.g. kate will install some kde-basic libs but that is not a problem for your system, just a little more space is needed
[13:41] <iceroot> !de | linkux
[13:41] <evilkid> iceroot : "Copy the zd1211_* files to
[13:41] <evilkid> /lib/firmware/zd1211" ^^ ty... found in readme ...
[13:41] <almoxarife> NimeshNeema: well, if you are gnome and you install kate, kate is not gonna work all that well
[13:41] <metaspikes> AFD, nope
[13:41] <iceroot> evilkid: great
[13:41] <iceroot> almoxarife: NimeshNeema of course kate is working well on gnome
[13:41] <AFD> metaspikes: and do you know if bluez is the package installed with Ubuntu/gnome as default?
[13:42] <metaspikes> AFD, nope
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> almoxarife: thanks. i was doubtful about that bit
[13:42] <AFD> metaspikes: ok, thanks for the help
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: will give a try
[13:43] <Resistance> Motafoca:  edit /etc/default/grub as root/sudo, find GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and remove "splash" from the line, then sudo update-grub2
[13:43] <Resistance> Motafoca:  if you want to see kernel stuffs too, remove "quiet" from that line too
[13:43] <Resistance> leaving it empty
[13:43] <Resistance> (it'll flood your terminal screen, but it gives you the standard linux boot stuff you'd see in RedHat among other things
[13:44] <Motafoca> Resistance: ty
[13:44] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you can also disable the semi-nice version of the GRUB boot screen, there's basics of grub2 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[13:45] <Resistance> but i'm not sure how valid uncommenting #GRUB_TERMINAL=console would be
[13:45] <metaspikes> Motafoca: you could also ' sudo dmesg ' to get the kernel log. also sudo cat /var/log/messages
[13:45] <Motafoca> metaspikes: thanks :)
[13:45] <Resistance> metaspikes:  i think his issue is he wants GRUB with the purple background gone
[13:45] <Mandingo> hi to all
[13:45] <Motafoca> its so easy in gentoo, in ubuntu hard as hell :)
[13:45] <Mandingo> hi i spain
[13:46] <Mandingo> open the mouth
[13:46] <metaspikes> dmesg | grep <something>  - if your looking for <somethin> in paritular or  sudo cat /var/log/messages | grep <something> likewise