[00:01] <haroldv> Hi sorry for the code pasted
[00:01] <haroldv> :(
[00:02] <haroldv> Ok my problem is that my SO ubuntu 18.10
[00:03] <haroldv> when I execute the command "system-analyze blame" the first result is this   31.291s dev-sda2.device
[00:03] <haroldv> how can I fix this delay ?
[00:04] <haroldv> somebody help me please
[00:04] <tomreyn> haroldv: your system journal was flushed during the previous boot, which took 11 seconds.
[00:05] <tomreyn> *systemd
[00:05] <tomreyn> this shouldn't happen every time.
[00:06] <tomreyn> haroldv: post the http address returned by:    sudo systemd-analyze critical-chain | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:07] <tomreyn> !paste | haroldv: also read this for when you need to paste again
[00:08] <haroldv> tomreyn https://termbin.com/nm15
[00:09] <haroldv> thanks ubottu
[00:10] <tomreyn> haroldv: that's not fast, but also doesn't look wrong. initially i asked you a question you seemed to ignore?  <tomreyn> was it faster previously, or is it a new install? if it was faster before, what changed in between?
[00:11] <haroldv> yes before was faster
[00:11] <tomreyn> before what?
[00:12] <haroldv> a month ago
[00:12] <tomreyn> were you running the same ubuntu version then?
[00:12] <gambl0re> how much battery life do you guys get?
[00:12] <haroldv> yes the same version
[00:13] <haroldv> How can i mention you in this chat ?
[00:13] <tomreyn> haroldv: << like this.
[00:13] <haroldv> yes
[00:13] <tomreyn> haroldv: you just type the name of whom you're adressing.
[00:13] <haroldv> tomreyn:
[00:14] <tomreyn> right, like this
[00:14] <haroldv> :tomreyn
[00:15] <haroldv> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/um8i
[00:16] <tomreyn> haroldv: so since you were running the same ubuntu version a month ago, but booting the system got slower since, this means that something else must have changed. maybe your file systems are running full ( df -h | nc termbin.com 9999 ) or your storage is growing old and forgetful ( !smart )
[00:16] <tomreyn> !smart | haroldv
[00:17] <haroldv> https://termbin.com/tipj
[00:17] <tomreyn> i see nothing unusual on your systemd-analyze output.
[00:17] <tomreyn> file systems are fine
[00:18] <haroldv> why is very slow the boot to load login ?
 haroldv: your system journal was flushed during the previous boot, which took 11 seconds.
[00:20] <tomreyn> another explanation for slowness would be the storage becoming unreliable. so do a short 'smart' self-test on all disks.
[00:21] <tomreyn> and review the data which was collected passively.
[00:21] <tomreyn> i'm off to bed now, good luck.
[00:21] <haroldv> ok
[00:21] <haroldv> thanks tomreyn:
[00:22] <tomreyn> you're welcome, harold. read  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools and share your output here (and in ##linux in no one ia around here).
[00:26] <leonardus> what wifi adapter should i get for gigabit internet that is supported on ubuntu?
[00:28] <leftyfb> leonardus: https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/category/WIRELESS/
[00:29] <leonardus> leftyfb: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KEtk5OBf/image.png
[00:30] <leftyfb> leonardus: looks like you have some proxy issues to resolve
[00:30] <leonardus> i'm not using a proxy. looks like that's on ubuntu's side
[00:32] <leftyfb> leonardus: it's working fine here.
[00:34] <LuckyMan> does the last kernel update fixs the zombie?
[00:35] <dev1ce> exit
[00:36] <leftyfb> LuckyMan: you're going to have to be more specific than that
[00:36] <LuckyMan> leftyfb, intel zombie bug
[00:37] <leftyfb> LuckyMan: got a link?
[00:38] <LuckyMan> leftyfb, https://www.cyberus-technology.de/posts/2019-05-14-zombieload.html
[00:40] <leftyfb> LuckyMan: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-12126.html
[00:42] <LuckyMan> leftyfb, thanks
[01:01] <arooni_team_b> i tried to upgrade my ubuntu server from 18.04.1 to .2 but i got the message 'no valid mirrors found'  what should i do differently
[01:02] <Sveta> what command did you use?
[01:07] <arooni_team_b> sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:09] <rbkyu> Hello everyone, I have a question regarding keyboard input methods. Anyone able to offer some assistance?
[01:10] <nshirelaptop> usually you just want to ask the question rather than asking if you can ask a question
[01:10] <rbkyu> Wonderful, thanks
[01:10] <rbkyu> Basically I am looking for a method to detect the currently active input method
[01:10] <rbkyu> I have fcitx installed with mozc
[01:11] <rbkyu> is there a way to detect whether mozc is enabled or keybord US english is enabled?
[01:11] <rbkyu> via the command line
[01:13] <leftyfb> arooni_team_b: sudo apt upgrade # that is all you need
[01:21] <nshirelaptop> rbkyu, my only suggestion would be to find out where the config file for that is stored and write a script to read that
[01:21] <nshirelaptop> does anyone else have a problem where chromium randomly disappears from the taskbar? I can still alt-tab into it though
[01:26] <rfm> rbkyu, does "Im-config -c -m" show you anything you find useful?  The second value printed should be your active im config.
[01:29] <rbkyu> nshirelaptop: The config file does not seem to include any useful info about the currently active method
[01:32] <rbkyu> i dont seem to have im-config available but sounds like a plausible solution, i will look into it
[01:34] <rfm> rbkyu, it's in package "im-config", not sure why you don't have it, I do and I don't even have any input methods installed
[01:55] <guest3205> hi everyone, im trying to install 18.04 LTS amd64 on a 2008 iMac with a core 2 duo CPU, but i haven't been able to successfully boot the ubuntu DVD, just curious if anyone knows what trick might be needed to get an older intel Mac to start up Ubuntu
[02:02] <rbkyu> rfm: Thank you very much, I will look into it, I also found this useful post --> https://superuser.com/questions/935165/how-can-i-change-my-fcitx-input-method-from-the-terminal
[02:04] <speeder39_> Can I ask are you keeping the Mac osx installed???
[02:27] <gambl0r3> using vi how do i save :set showmode in vi config settings?
[02:28] <leftyfb> gambl0r3: "set showmode" in ~/.vimrc
[02:30] <gambl0r3> leftyfb, thanks
[02:30] <gambl0r3> i have to create the file? i dont see it
[02:42] <Lowbatt> hi
[02:42] <Lowbatt> hi bro
[02:42] <Lowbatt> can you speak
[02:42] <Lowbatt> ??
[02:43] <leftyfb> Lowbatt: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Please detail the issue you are having with Ubuntu.
[02:47] <KAMVANG> test
[02:47] <leftyfb> KAMVANG: this is not the appropriate place to test your IRC client
[02:52] <duoi> hey
[02:52] <duoi> using ubuntu 18.04
[02:52] <duoi> for some reason gnome extensions dont turn on
[02:52] <duoi> i flick the little switch thing but they dont actually enable and refreshing the page puts them back in the off position
[02:52] <duoi> any ideas?
[02:53] <duoi> hmm maybe its chrome-gnome-shell
[02:53] <duoi> nope not that
[03:25] <amosbird> how can I grab the boot log while boot is hanging?
[03:29] <TJ-> amosbird: serial or USB console maybe?
[03:31] <apb1963> TJ-, I forgot the channel name
[03:32] <TJ-> apb1963: hehehe squoo.sh
[03:37] <wondows> How to open a window from terminal in the current dir?
[03:39] <amosbird> TJ-: usb console?
[03:39] <amosbird> well the log is dumped to the screen, I don't even know if it writes to any temp files
[03:40] <TJ-> amosbird: USB3 especially has a dedicated debug channel, and the linux kernel can be configured to write to that, but that is specialised facility needing a special cable
[03:40] <duoi> wondows xdg-open .
[03:40] <wondows> or nautilus .
[03:40] <TJ-> amosbird: that's why I suggested serial, if the PC has a serial interface (many don't these days, making decapturing debug messages difficult)
[03:41] <wondows> but there's a problem, it blocks the terminal, it runs as a process in the terminal
[03:41] <amosbird> TJ-: I guess it does as it's a virual machine
[03:41] <wondows> I lose the ability to enter commands in the terminal
[03:42] <TJ-> amosbird: oh, with a VM it's easy! I have just finished a serial debug session with a VM for someone else, we had both GRUB and linux kernel output to serila
[03:44] <TJ-> amosbird: you'd need to mount the VM disk image's root-fs to edit its GRUB config, and configure the hypervisor to give you a serial console. We used qemu-system-x86_64 from a shell (not using GUI) and it worked fine
[03:48] <duoi> wondows put an & at the end
[04:01] <IrssiNewbiee> Hello, I am trying to run desktop-notify (script) for irssi, however when triggered, I receive the following error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files at
[04:01] <IrssiNewbiee>           /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.26/Glib/Object/Introspection.pm line 67.
[04:01] <wondows> duoi: ugly
[04:01] <IrssiNewbiee> Does anyone know how I can fix that ?
[04:02] <wondows> macOS wins once again. Just type ` open .` and it just works, no bs
[04:03] <jcotton> xdg-open should work for that wondows
[04:03] <jcotton> oh ic
[04:04] <amosbird> TJ-: um, any tutorial I can follow?
[04:04] <IrssiNewbiee> I guess I am second in the queue :)
[04:07] <MannyLNJ> I just did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Now my DNS is not working properly. When I try apt-get updateI am getting name resoluton problems
[04:08] <jiqiren> i'm having trouble getting non-builtin apt source working with unattended upgrade, any pointers?
[04:08] <jiqiren> basically not able to figure out the right mix of stuff to put in Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins for https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian
[04:11] <wondows> In the Terminal I went to Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts and assigned Ctrl+K to Reset and Clear and it does not work
[04:16] <frank> hello
[04:37] <sere_> is it possible to resize nautilus's icon size
[04:41] <wondows> sere_: ctrl + scroll? sadly it changes the icon size everywhere
[04:41] <tbrown> Am trying to install spotify i386 I found the DEB file online I don't understand this because when I go into root and type " dpkg -i spotify.deb " it shows an error it did this before with other apps but I just type in " sudo apt-get force install " then when I push Y for yes it uninstall it I dont understand why
[04:41] <wondows> afaik there's no way to change it in a single window...
[04:51] <sere_> wondows: I tried that but it only downsized to like 128 or 98x
[05:00] <wondows> sere_: yeah it's not really nice
[05:06] <tbrown> Am trying to install spotify i386 I found the DEB file online I don't understand this because when I go into root and type " dpkg -i spotify.deb " it shows an error it did this before with other apps but I just type in " sudo apt-get force install " then when I push Y for yes it uninstall it I dont understand why
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> new updates are out, everyone update your systems
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> tbrown: 32bit is a dying race, perhaps try the snap?
[05:08] <tbrown> lotuspsychje: I understand that it a dying race but I found a deb file I just dont now why its not installing
[05:08] <guiverc> tbrown, were all dependencies available for the deb you tried to install?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> tbrown: wich ubuntu version are you on please
[05:08] <tbrown> 19.04 ubuntu mininal install with openbox
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> tbrown: 19.04 doesnt have 32bit?
[05:11] <tbrown> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/19.04/
[05:11] <tbrown> it has i386 avaible
[05:11] <guiverc> tbrown, you said minimal, not netboot
[05:11] <tbrown> or sorry I thought they were the same thing
[05:11] <tbrown> whats the differents
[05:13] <guiverc> minimal last i386 was 18.04 LTS, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD vs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot  ; sorry I've used neither so can't speak to differences
[05:15] <tbrown> I understand it aims at experence users I just don't understand why I found a a i386 spotify I will show you the link http://repository.spotify.com/pool/non-free/s/spotify-client/ so I download the i386 deb file what requirments should I go fourth to install because I tryed the basic
[05:15] <guiverc> tbrown, i don't force anything; if there are issues I sure want to know about them before I install; but were all dependencies present on your system?  (they must be to dpkg -i install)
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> tbrown: not sure whats your end goal exactly, but i would choose for a lubuntu 18.04.2 LTS 32bit minimal + snapd and install spotify or olivia from there
[05:18] <tbrown> i used pcmanfm to open the download folder to the terminal I used "sudo su" to go into root I Typed " dpkg -i spotify.deb " I changed the file name easer to install them. Then it unloaded the packages and I did a force install because somehow it does not install it right away when I do the right way first time so I typed " sudo apt-get -f install "
[05:20] <guiverc> Did you get any errors or warnings on the `dpkg -i` step?  they should have been fixed first; messages about dependencies I bet on things you need to install at the same time, or first.   sudo apt -f install probably backs it out as the only solution to deps you'd not installed.
[05:20] <tbrown> I DO NOT WANT LUBUNTU it does not give me the stuff I need. I installed open box after installing the netinstaller I want a upgraded version my end goal is simple to have a computer to use and have fun with listing to music and watching youtube videos basic stuff. But I love a challenge I don't like taking the easy way out of things. But I know it is possible. I just need a little guided need sorry. :(
[05:21] <tbrown> is there an altertive to lisen to spotify music without instlalling the software because I tryed using the web player & that did not work. It seems I live in a twilight zone lol.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> spotify snap, told you 3 times
[05:23] <tbrown> lotuspsychje: Tyed it like you said before 32 bit is dying off is anyone listing because I just need to now how to install this deb files I just don't understand why when I did a force install it removed the app I did everything right
[05:23] <tbrown> I just dont understand
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> tbrown: how about you pastebin your full output, so volunteers can see what you are doing
[05:24] <tbrown> Yes what is a good sharing website so I could do that Thanks
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !paste | tbrown
[05:25] <guiverc> tbrown, my suggestion was you ignored warnings about dependencies (things you must install to make spotify.deb work either first or at same time with `dpkg -i`) so later when you `sudo apt -f install` it backs out the change due to missing deps & that's the easiest fix.
[05:27] <tbrown> so it could of installed it or something but when I did a -f install it removed it. is that what you are getting at?
[05:30] <guiverc> tbrown, the messages will tell you what was done, my suspicion is your first dpkg -i gave you errors on why it shouldn't be installed; you force-install to skip the issues; but it wouldn't work due errors, your apt-get -f install caused the install to back out because of missing deps.  (dpkg needs to install all deps when run, or before-hand, unlike apt-get & apt)
[05:31] <guiverc> but I'm guessing, your messages will tell you what actually happened..
[05:32] <tbrown> hold on I will past everything and show you lotuspsychje: guiverc:
[05:42] <tbrown> lotuspsychje: guiverc: Sorry For The Wait. https://ibb.co/BC6mj1j
[05:44] <guiverc> dep problems as i suggested.  `dpkg` requires that you install all deps in the same command, or before-hand. you provided a picture, i can't copy/paste from a picture to explore package availability in 19.04 (text is easier; eg. pastebinit)
[05:45] <tbrown> sorry
[05:45] <guiverc> tbrown, you could try `apt install ./spotifyclientblah.deb`  ; as apt & apt-get can cope with deps not pre-installed
[05:47] <tbrown> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M5ZG5bRRcT/
[05:48] <guiverc> i'd try using `apt -f install` then `apt ./blah.deb` first`  as already stated
[05:50] <guiverc> tbrown, i looked at one, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgconf-2-4&searchon=names&suite=disco&section=all shows its available as long as you have 'universe' enabled
[05:51] <tbrown> guiverc : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gGGSMhScDn/
[05:53] <guiverc> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=libavcodec-ffmpeg56 is only availble for 16.04 LTS (xenial); the spotify client seems kinda old
[05:53] <tbrown> So that why I can't install it beceause it only for a different verison
[05:54] <tbrown> i new that was the problem I just did not want to believe it dagnabets
[05:54] <guiverc> i picked another at random, it's also only available for 16.04 (xenial) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
[05:54] <tbrown> Sorry Guys
[05:56] <tbrown> Why is 32 bit dieing off a lot of people still have 32 bit systems there going to be pisset off
[05:56] <jcotton> i imagine most are 64 bit these days
[05:56] <jcotton> at least the OS
[05:56] <guiverc> tbrown, if you had-to-have-it, you could download the deps & install them yourself (first), then your wanted .deb would work; but you're adding 'risk' & issues when you next release-upgrade (to 19.10 etc) - ie. it's not a great solution; hack only
[05:57] <starsaboveus> hey, I know this isn't everyone's first choice, but have you tried the flatpak package for spotify yet?
[05:58] <jcotton> there's a snap too i think
[05:58] <tbrown> guiverc : could you help me please because I would like to get this to work I want to lisen to my music again :(
[05:58] <starsaboveus> worked perfectly on my linux mint 19.1 (ubuntu derivative) and fedora 30 installations
[05:58] <guiverc> tbrown, 32bit is still currently supported; but it's less tested with fewer options (very few use it, or test with it; I did till lubuntu & xubuntu dropped daily iso's in dec-2018); due to lack fo community-support (people willing to help test it etc)
[05:59] <starsaboveus> last time I used snaps, they didn't integrate very well with my GTK theme. flatpaks seemed to look less foreign on my desktop, heh
[05:59] <starsaboveus> however, I did use the snap package for VLC, which is Qt and already has issues on GTK, lol
[05:59] <tbrown> guiverc : could you help me find the files to install I already installed libgconf-2-4
[06:00] <privism> How does ubuntu kernel often rolls out? On 19.04 I have mouse wheel issue which is fixed in 5.0.8.  But if there's no security issues, it will pin at current 5.0.6, right?
[06:01] <starsaboveus> tbrown https://flatpak.org/setup/Ubuntu/
[06:01] <starsaboveus> https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.spotify.Client
[06:01] <jcotton> does flatpak do any of the sandboxing snaps do?
[06:02] <tbrown> starsaboveus: Thank I will give it a shot I will come back and tell my resolt
[06:03] <starsaboveus> when I downloaded flatpak, it pulled in bubblewrap as a dependency, so I think it supports sandboxing natively
[06:03] <jcotton> cool
[06:03] <starsaboveus> here's some info on their github: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox
[06:08] <JonHanDin> I'm currently running rkhunter... are their any additional services I should be using?
[06:12] <IIIdefconIII> Good morning, i just used this commands: curl https://download.mono-project.com/repo/xamarin.gpg | sudo apt-key add - sudo apt update && sudo apt install libmono-cil-dev curl mediainfo to install radarr, but there are more then 100 certificates added from several countries like :
[06:12] <IIIdefconIII> Certificate added: C=US, S=Texas, L=Houston, O=SSL Corporation, CN=SSL.com EV Root Certification Authority ECC Certificate added: C=US, S=Texas, L=Houston, O=SSL Corporation, CN=SSL.com EV Root Certification Authority RSA R2 Certificate added: C=US, S=Texas, L=Houston, O=SSL Corporation, CN=SSL.com Root Certification Authority ECC Certificate added: C=US, S=Texas, L=Houston, O=SSL Corporation, CN=SSL.com Root Certification Autho
[06:12] <IIIdefconIII> did i just exposed my machine?
[06:13] <jcotton> I mean it's Mono/Xamarin
[06:13] <jcotton> it's run by the .NET Foundation not Joe Blow Rando
[06:13] <jcotton> you should be fine
[06:15] <IIIdefconIII> i just found it on google thanks!
[06:15] <IIIdefconIII> https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/134000/is-it-safe-to-let-apt-get-applications-install-root-certificates/134003
[06:24] <Ublx> is there a "clutter-free" view for links2 or elinks like in firefox?
[06:30] <tbrown> ok is anyone here still from helping me with spotify someone told me to install flatpak I installed it it completed success but can't find spotify
[06:35] <tbrown> ok got spotify working thanks everyone
[06:35] <tbrown> flatpak is a life savior dang I wish I new that software before hand lol
[07:07] <dadda> lol
[07:07] <dadda> ixcnipwheg
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[07:07] <dadda> fdm, n dc davkn jmasdld-zkznbhnpgi
[07:07] <dadda> mfmfg
[07:07] <dadda> lol
[07:07] <dadda>  basueobjkldvyaeg bnAO_USB$O_
[07:07]  * roboirc slaps dadda around with a large trout
[07:07] <roboirc> shut up
[07:08] <dadda> what
[07:08] <dadda> hewwo?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: please dont feed trolls
[07:09] <dadda> is anyone hewe?
[07:09] <dax> dadda: there's plenty of people here. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:09] <dadda> yea, sorry man
[07:09] <dadda> no,thanks, just wandering internet
[07:10] <roboirc> yeah i am not lotuspsychje
[07:10] <roboirc> wandering internet lol
[07:10] <roboirc> hey gofio is here too :P
[07:11] <gofio> hi roboirc
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> roboirc: come to #ubuntu-discuss if you want to chat
[07:11] <gofio> was gonna ask what's the equivalent shortcut crtl+alt+del from windows in ubuntu 18.04?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> gofio: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a please
[07:12] <geirha> !sysrq
[07:12] <roboirc> ok
[07:13] <geirha> oh hang on, I was thinking the old meaning of ctrl+alt+del. These days it just opens the login prompt, doesn't it?
[07:13] <gofio> lotuspsychje: this? Linux gofio-HP-Compaq-6720s 4.15.0-48-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 3 08:28:49 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> gofio: there are updates for your system
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | gofio
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> gofio: you didnt paste lsb_release -a
[07:16] <gofio> ubottu: I do it everyday
[07:16] <roboirc> ubottu is a bot
[07:16] <roboirc> lol
[07:18] <gofio> lotuspsychje: https://paste.linux.community/view/22371aaf
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> gofio: without the ubuntu release we cannot help you
[07:19] <gofio> ubottu: you should answer questions
[07:20] <gofio> I have pasted the command you've given me lotuspsychje and given you the link where I have pasted what the command has given me
[07:20] <ducasse> gofio: just 'lsb_release -a', drop the 'please'
[07:21] <gofio> lotuspsychje: this? Description:	Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> gofio: in the pastebin togheter with the command please
[07:22] <gofio> lotuspsychje: https://paste.linux.community/view/f898b083
[07:25] <gofio> ubottu: you can do better
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !botabuse | gofio
[07:26] <gofio> didn't know crtl+alt+del was such a mistery
[07:29] <geirha> gofio: what does ctrl+alt+del do in windows that you want to do in ubuntu, exactly?
[07:35] <gofio> lotuspsychje: what did you wanted me to do what you told me to do for?
[07:37] <gofio> geirha: thanks
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> gofio: its to see if you are using ubuntu
[07:37] <gofio> o m
[07:40] <geirha> gofio: hm? it was a serious question ... In windows' lock screen, ctrl+alt+del gives you the login prompt, right? but what else does it do?
[07:41] <gofio> lotuspsychje: and you are not a bot are you
[07:41] <EriC^^> ctrl+alt+del shows a screen with options
[07:41] <EriC^^> https://cdn.windowsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ctrl-alt-delete-screen-1.png
[07:42] <gofio> to me it gave me task manager or whatever the name in english since I use spanish system, and it's been a while since not using windows
[07:42] <EriC^^> gofio: ubunt has "system monitor"
[07:42] <gofio> it could alos reboot
[07:42] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: hi, what stuff you want in a bug ?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: did you follow the tips tomreyn and TJ- told you before filing a bug?
[07:43] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: no I didnt catch those
[07:43] <gofio> I guess that's windows 10 EriC^^
[07:44] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: quick summary of those ?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: try to scroll your client back to there?
[07:44] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: tried, dont have a that long backlog
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !logs | ekarlso
[07:44] <tehy> how do i change the timezone ubuntu server
[07:46] <ducasse> tehy: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata'
[07:46] <tehy> ducasse: should i not change the sym link of /etc/localtime
[07:46] <tehy> I want the timezone to have WIB  GMT + 7:00
[07:47] <ekarlso> so basically try to downgrade kernel then to 4.15 or 4.18... is that possible without downgrading to 18.04 ?
[07:48] <ducasse> tehy: that command should take care of everything
[07:48] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: ?
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: i did not really follow what has been suggested after
[07:50] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: well it doesnt seem like that's a easy do ...
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: i presume it might be related to kernel testing, use !mainline or !hwe
[07:50] <ekarlso> well I dont want to spend tons of time downgrading :(
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: downgrading is not ubuntu style, wich kernel are you on currently?
[07:52] <ekarlso> 5.x that's with 19.04
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: ok but you said you had this same issue on 18.04.2 too right?
[07:54] <ekarlso> yes
[07:54] <ekarlso> it was not suspending properly and keeping itself suspended
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: allright, update your ssytem to latest and lets file that bug with: ubuntu-bug linux
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: that will transfer you to launchpad, where you can enter a title and description of your story
[07:56] <Ublx> is there a "clutter-free" view for links2 or elinks like in firefox?
[08:01] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: seems something of this: [ 1642.415597] ACPI: EC: event blocked
[08:01] <ekarlso> is what is causing it
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: ubuntu-bug will collect all the info needed normally, just enter a title & description of what happens when you do what
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: if not added, you can add dmesg log afterwards to the bug also
[08:04] <CarlFK> I addedd a new 4t disk. will fdisk make a 4t partition, or should I use parted?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: feel free to share your bug # number when its ready, we can take a look
[08:04] <IIIdefconIII_> test
[08:04] <CarlFK> illuminated: you pass the test.
[08:05] <ducasse> CarlFK: use gdisk to create a gpt partition table
[08:06] <CarlFK> ducasse: neat. thanks. that was easy.
[08:07] <IIIdefconIII_> im not sure whats the correct place to ask, but my nick is with a _
[08:07] <ducasse> CarlFK: disks over 2t need gpt tables
[08:07] <lupulo> ok
[08:07] <IIIdefconIII_> if i run /msg identify IIIdefconIII it says i am already logged in with IIIdefconIII
[08:07] <ducasse> IIIdefconIII_: try #freenode
[08:07] <IIIdefconIII_> thnx
[08:08] <lupulo> CarlFK, You could use gparted
[08:11] <nshire> oh I think I might know what I did
[08:12] <nshire> I think I installed the libraries for python2 but I'm using the python3 interpreter
[08:12] <nshire> wrong chan
[08:19] <UKWolfy> Good morning
[08:21] <JohnGavr> UKWolfy: good morning, your question?
[08:21] <UKWolfy> Is it required to have questions?
[08:22] <JohnGavr> here is a support channel, if you want discuss join #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <Industrial> Hi.
[08:29] <Industrial> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libgtk3-nocsd.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (failed to map segment from shared object): ignored.
[08:29] <Industrial> I get that after having aborted an `apt-get upgrade -y`
[08:29] <Industrial> Is it possible to re-install all packages that are currently installed?
[08:31] <wr> did netinstall ubuntu 19.04 with no selections, what would i need to install to have GUI?
[08:31] <CarlFK> wr: try apt install ubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: I found that disabling XHC for wakeup made it work.
[08:31] <ekarlso> my laptop then goes to sleep :)
[08:31] <wr> CarlFK, want to install something light
[08:32] <IIIdefconIII> i always wonder, how do you delete a long command that you should remove in terminal, use backspace? arrow up and backspace?
[08:32] <sandwitch> wr, i guess ubuntu-desktop-minimal
[08:33] <IIIdefconIII> ah ctrl + l seems to do what i want kindoff
[08:33] <CarlFK> sandwitch: neat - didn't know about that
[08:33] <IIIdefconIII> ah it doesnt actually clear the line fast
[08:34] <wr> sandwitch, alternatives to ubuntu-desktop-minimal?
[08:34] <sandwitch> wr, or xfce4
[08:34] <IIIdefconIII> im searching for a way to fast remove commands in terminal, hope u understand what i mean
[08:34] <CarlFK> illuminated: ^w will delete a word
[08:34] <IIIdefconIII> no native englisch sry
[08:34] <sandwitch> apt search desktop
[08:34] <wr> sandwitch, want more light than xfce
[08:34] <ducasse> IIIdefconIII: try ctrl + u
[08:34] <IIIdefconIII> love it thanks
[08:36] <sandwitch> wr, read this or similar pages https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-desktop-environment-reviewed-and-compared/
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso: how did you disable that?
[08:46] <Industrial> for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' | egrep -v '(dpkg|apt)'` ; do apt-get -y --force-yes install --reinstall $pkg ; done
[08:46] <Industrial> There you go.
[08:51] <qwebirc68226> ok
[08:54] <wr> already installed all those DE's on the link
[08:55] <wr> their too heavy
[08:56] <ducasse> wr: then install just a wm and the tools you want/need
[08:57] <wr> ducasse, yes but for GUI need's xorg and more?
[08:58] <ducasse> you need xorg, yes
[09:07] <wr> ducasse, better alternative xorg, any?
[09:08] <IIIdefconIII> is it dangerous to  have [Service]
[09:08] <IIIdefconIII> User=root
[09:08] <IIIdefconIII> Group=root in  a service file?
[09:08] <maxzor> Hello, 19.04 has java11. Got told to install java 8 aswell. Is that straightforward?
[09:09] <IIIdefconIII> im using it for /opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe and if i change the user to iiidefconiii and remove the group the journalctl give me error permissions denied
[09:09] <IIIdefconIII> does that means it needs to run under root? i already did a chown iiidefconiii /opt/Radar
[09:09] <IIIdefconIII> does that means it needs to run under root? i already did a chown iiidefconiii /opt/Radarr
[09:13] <ducasse> wr: not yet, wayland isn't really ready yet
[09:14] <EriC^^> wayland is still way way way land
[09:14] <EriC^^> way far away land
[09:15] <IIIdefconIII> do i need something else then chown that folder? journalctl output Cannot open assembly '/opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe': Permission denied.
[09:16] <IIIdefconIII> i changed the service file user from root to iiidefconiii group user
[09:16] <EriC^^> IIIdefconIII: what are the perms of /opt/Radarr and said file
[09:17] <IIIdefconIII> this is an example: -rwx------ 1 iiidefconiii root   23040 mei  4 22:41 antlr.runtime.dll
[09:18] <EriC^^> what about /opt/Radarr itself
[09:18] <IIIdefconIII> Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: ( 1000/iiidefconiii)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[09:18] <EriC^^> stat -c %a /opt/Radarr{,/Radarr.exe}
[09:19] <IIIdefconIII> 775 / 700
[09:20] <EriC^^> and who owns Radarr.exe? iiidefii?
[09:20] <IIIdefconIII> im not sure
[09:21] <debrisRat> hi
[09:21] <debrisRat> hoe can i recover my grub :((
[09:21] <debrisRat> is there any link :(
[09:21] <EriC^^> IIIdefconIII: type stat -c %u /opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe
[09:21] <IIIdefconIII> grub-update
[09:22] <EriC^^> debrisRat: what'st he back story, why did it go?
[09:22] <IIIdefconIII> give me back 1000
[09:22] <EriC^^> IIIdefconIII: seems right
[09:23] <debrisRat> EriC^^ my grub is not boot my ubuntu :(
[09:23] <EriC^^> debrisRat: so you get grub but ubuntu doesnt boot?
[09:24] <debrisRat> im curently connet in my mobile phonr :(
[09:24] <debrisRat> whow can i grub command ??
[09:25] <debrisRat> how can i find grub command?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !grub | debrisRat
[09:25] <IIIdefconIII> it gives me two errors:  stat -c %u /opt/Radarr/Radarr.exe and radarr.service: Failed to determine group credentials: No such process
[09:25] <IIIdefconIII>  aslong if i  change the user to root it works, but i have other service files that have user iiidefconiii, and i believe with setting root the app is running as root, which is more dangerous then iiidefconiii do i understand correctly?
[09:26] <IIIdefconIII> do i need to run a chmod +x command? note too suree cause im still newby at linux permissions systrem
[09:26] <debrisRat> ubottu thanks :)
[09:27] <EriC^^> debrisRat: you're not being very clear
[09:27] <EriC^^> debrisRat: do you get grub, yes/no, if you do and you're booting ubuntu, what happens (in details)
[09:28] <debrisRat> i want to install windows 10 uefi on my system.
[09:28] <IIIdefconIII> side by side?.
[09:28] <debrisRat> i m using ubuntu 18.10
[09:28] <IIIdefconIII> i would use clover then instead of grub i made a guide for that years ago 600.000 views, want te link?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> debrisRat, sanest practice is to install windows first followed by ubuntu.
[09:28] <debrisRat> and, my system is not boot :(
[09:28] <IIIdefconIII> https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/293574-beginners-guide-to-uefi-tripledual-boot-os-x-windows-and-linux-kali-on-an-single-true-gpt-ssd/
[09:29] <EriC^^> debrisRat: ok, so windows boots now and you dont get grub?
[09:29] <IIIdefconIII> follow this and it will work, may be a bit outdated but the steps are in correct order
[09:29] <debrisRat> ok thanks :s
[09:29] <EriC^^> wait dont follow the link
[09:29] <debrisRat> i will try.
[09:29] <IIIdefconIII> start from section, Installing Windows 8.1 UEFI Mode
[09:30] <EriC^^> IIIdefconIII: please in the future dont give links here unless nobody else is helping, thanks
[09:31] <Darksigns> nowdays i think better to use one system and the other as virtual:) than you can have them run at the same time
[09:31] <Darksigns> i use ubuntu and with virtualbox windows
[09:31] <EriC^^> IIIdefconIII: are you using kali or ubuntu?
[09:31] <IIIdefconIII> ok
[09:32] <IIIdefconIII> kali
[09:32] <EriC^^> !kali | IIIdefconIII
[09:35] <qwebirc36946> hi, if i instanll ubuntu inside a virtual box, will it have the same "power" as the main laptop or not?
[09:35] <Darksigns> yes
[09:36] <Darksigns> it will give you the power
[09:36] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, elaborate?
[09:36] <Darksigns> u need
[09:36] <IIIdefconIII> @eric^^ got any other ideas why its not working under the user IIIdefconIII
[09:36] <ducasse> IIIdefconIII: as EriC^^ just told you, we don't support kali
[09:37] <IIIdefconIII> ow no in that guide i was using kali
[09:37] <qwebirc36946> darksigns what I mean is virtual box will use same core, ram, etc at main laptop?
[09:37] <IIIdefconIII> misunderstood the queston, im usung ubuntu :)
[09:37] <Darksigns> the best thing with virtualization is the backups and flexibility
[09:37] <Darksigns> yes
[09:37] <Darksigns> if you set it up like that
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Darksigns: can we help you?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, nope.  you have to assign those and as your vbox is a guest of the host, all resources will be reduced
[09:38] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett I mean will ubuntu inside the virtual box have the same ram, speed, cores, etc as main laptop?
[09:39] <Darksigns> oh if you mean that no but nowdays all good computers have enough memory and cpu
[09:39] <Darksigns> to run more Os
[09:39] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, no.  think about it.
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Darksigns: stop that please, only ubuntu support questions here
[09:40] <Darksigns> i run ubuntu and in virtualbox 3 other OS (windows7 and 2 debian )
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Darksigns
[09:40] <Darksigns> they have no problem with the speed
[09:40] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, your host machine has say 16 gb of memory.  you NEED the host machine running to run your guest.  therefore the guest machine must always be less than the host
[09:40] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett thats bad then, cannot make virtual machine ubuntu with same "power" as main laptop?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> you keep asking the same question ...
[09:41] <Darksigns> from this aspect not
[09:41] <Darksigns> but from usage side i would recommend to use it
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Darksigns: stop the random chitchat, you are helping nobody like this
[09:42] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, you do not need to duplicate the host resources to run ubuntu in a virtual machine.
[09:43] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett but i need a lot of "power" for what i want to run in ubuntu
[09:43] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, "power" is completely imprecise.  explain.
[09:45] <Darksigns> lotuspsychje: its not random :) there is just one thema now on this channel :)
[09:46] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett I meant this: 2core 8gram
[09:46] <cfhowlett> Darksigns, it's needlessly distracting, off-topic and rude.  please stop. chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, those are system resources not power.  and your host OS needs a certain level of resources to function.  so you cannot assign the same level of resources to the guest
[09:47] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, further, what do you mean you "need" to use the same level?
[09:48] <Darksigns> cfhowlett: i don't understand U , i gave my opinion to this thema
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Darksigns, "opinion" ...
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> Darksigns: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <Darksigns> never mind have a nice day guys
[09:52] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, think of it this way: you have a car and you want to tow a trailer.  the car burns a certain amount of fuel.  if the car burns zero, the trailer stops.  The trailer cannot possibly burn more than the car.  For the trailer to burn as much as the car, the car must stop. and if the car stops ...
[09:52] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett, to run what i want to run, 2core and 4ram is the minimun requirement, so VM will need to have this, main laptop has 2core 8 ram
[09:53] <cfhowlett> you don't set cores in the  VM,  you set memory levels.  and the VM will not let you exceed the amount needed for the host
[09:53] <cfhowlett> at least not in virtualbox.
[09:54] <dev1ce> first time in ubuntu , so can u teach me ?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> dev1ce, nope.
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !fcm | dev1ce read and learn
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !manual | dev1ce also worth reading
[09:55] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett, so VM will have same cores, only difference would be allocate hard disk memory?
[09:55] <dev1ce> ubottu : thanks your link
[09:55] <ducasse> dev1ce: we can answer support questions, we're not here to teach
[09:55] <dev1ce> ubottu : :)
[09:55] <dev1ce> obutto : okey :)
[09:58] <samba35> i have two display card in system 1st onboard intel i915 and another nvidia gt-620 ,when i use only onboard card display works fine but as soon as i add nvidia card my display resoulation become very low
[09:58] <egrain> do you guys have brave in your repositories somewhere?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> egrain: as a snap
[09:58] <samba35> i try to add blacklist nvida but its not working some how ,blacklist is right way ?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !info brave
[09:59] <egrain> lotuspsychje, what's a snap?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> egrain: snap find brave, from terminal
[09:59] <egrain> i'm not on ubuntu right now. otherwise i could apt-cache search my own self.
[09:59] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett, so VM will have same cores, only difference would be allocate hard disk memory?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> samba35: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a
[10:00] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, strongly urge you to configure your VBOX so you can see this for yourself
[10:00] <guest-sxiqu9> hi
[10:00] <samba35> ok
[10:00] <egrain> oh, unofficial. like the aur. got it.
[10:00] <egrain> lotuspsychje, thanks a bunch.
[10:00] <guest-sxiqu9> lol
[10:00] <tomreyn> !snap | egrain
[10:02] <samba35> https://pastebin.com/fAsQnkNB
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> samba35: ok, your nvidia driver is not loaded, can you see what: ubuntu-drivers list suggests?
[10:03] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett I tried with this guide but after choosing installing ubuntu it never gets intalled: https://askubuntu.com/questions/142549/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-virtualbox
[10:03] <popey_> egrain: some are community maintained (like AUR) some aren't (e.g. Mozilla Firefox)
[10:04] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, is virtualbox in your windows system?
[10:04] <qwebirc36946> yes
[10:04] <samba35> lotuspsychje, how do i find it
[10:04] <qwebirc36946> im installing it via the VM
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> samba35: ubuntu-drivers list
[10:05] <cfhowlett> qwebirc24951, "install it" means ???
[10:06] <samba35> nvidia-390
[10:06] <samba35> nvidia-340
[10:06] <samba35> nvidia-304
[10:06] <samba35> nvidia-384
[10:06] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett means follow steps in guide i put link above
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> samba35: try: sudo apt install nvidia-390 and reboot
[10:06] <samba35> ok
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> samba35: keep in mind you perhaps might need to switch bios settings, from integrated card to your nvidia card
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> samba35: if you encounter a black screen at reboot, try !nomodeset to get back in
[10:07] <samba35> ok
[10:08] <samba35> auto is ok ?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> samba35: sorry?
[10:08] <samba35> i have option of integrate ,external and some other option in bios dispay section
[10:08] <samba35> auto is one of option other then menation above
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> samba35: yeah thats your choice
[10:09] <samba35> ok
[10:09] <samba35> You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:09] <samba35>          installing.  For further details, please see the section
[10:09] <samba35>          INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README
[10:10] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett, it seems ubuntu is installed inside disk in VM, but when I open that disk it ask start from where? and I need to choose again the donwloaded ubuntu file? hmm
[10:10] <samba35> error while installing drivers
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> use a pastebin samba35 please
[10:10] <samba35> sorry
[10:10] <cfhowlett> qwebirc36946, after you install to the vbox, go to the machine settings and set it to boot from the HDD.
[10:10] <samba35> make sure next time and onwards ,i thought it will consume time
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> samba35: try switching drivers from software&updates tab additional drivers
[10:11] <samba35> ok
[10:12] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett settings you mean preferences? cannot find the option to boot from HDD
[10:14] <samba35> i could not get any notification after applying driver ,should i reboot now ?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> qwebirc36946, close down the VM.  right click on the VM for settings.
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> samba35: if its marked switched, yes try a reboot
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> samba35: also make sure your system is up to date ok
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | samba35
[10:15] <samba35> yes system is update
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> samba35: kernel -148 is out for 16.04
[10:16] <samba35> ic
[10:16] <cfhowlett> qwebirc36946, right click on the VM > System > Boot Order  > Hard Disk only
[10:17] <samba35> Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-146-generic
[10:17] <samba35> mine
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> samba35: yes i saw in your paste, hence the up to date command above^
[10:17] <samba35> but i update and upgrade today
[10:17] <samba35> ahh
[10:20] <illuminated> I've been using linux on the desktop for awhile now.  I kinda like it
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: #ubuntu-discuss please
[10:21] <anddam> howdy, I want to allow my user to have access to /dev/kvm
[10:21] <samba35> when i say apply change ,it say applaying changes and noting happne then it come back to using x.org  xserver nouveau
[10:22] <samba35> do i have to reboot anyway ?
[10:22] <qwebirc36946> cfhowlett right click in the desktop icon you mean? after doing that cannot see System option
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> samba35: no, that means it doesnt like the driver
[10:23] <samba35> ic
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> samba35: how about we try the 384?
[10:23] <samba35> i try all 4 options :)
[10:23] <cfhowlett> qwebirc36946, VM = virtual machine
[10:23] <ducasse> anddam: add user to kvm group
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> samba35: what about nouveau? does that work?
[10:24] <samba35> no
[10:24] <qwebirc36946> I meant right click in VM icon in desktop
[10:24] <samba35> i also try to black list it
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> samba35: did you actually try nouveau and reboot?
[10:25] <samba35> yes it was on nouveau also
[10:25] <anddam> ducasse: thanks I was stopped while typing the questino
[10:26] <samba35> for long time there was two driver ,i915 and nouveau
[10:26] <anddam> ducasse: I do not have a kvm group on my system
[10:26] <anddam> ducasse: I figure some kvm package brings it in as part of its configuration
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> samba35: well your card isnt the best gaming card, you could try a more lightweight flavor of ubuntu on it perhaps
[10:27] <samba35> i am trying to do pci passthrught
[10:27] <samba35> to vm guest
[10:27] <ducasse> anddam: who owns /dev/kvm?
[10:28] <anddam> ducasse: root:root
[10:28] <anddam> btw I do not see any reference to kvm in dmesg
[10:29] <cfhowlett> https://ibb.co/CtXdWXX          https://ibb.co/p0qMydz     qwebirc36946
[10:29] <anddam> I installed Android Studio and the emulator (I figure qemu) complains about not being able to access /dev/kvm
[10:29] <samba35> lotuspsychje, should i give reboot try with auto again ?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> samba35: you can
[10:29] <samba35> ok
[10:30] <samba35> be right back ,unless any show stopper :)
[10:30] <samba35> brb
[10:32] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett i doubled clicked as you said on VM icon in desktop and cannot see System option
[10:32] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, RIGHT CLICK on the machine you need to edit
[10:32] <Xbert> My Apparmor is no longer starting and systemd give the error apparmor[911]: Found reference to variable PROC, but is never declared, Any ideas?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, or ... Machine >>> Settings
[10:34] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett, ok then I clicked System and there are tabs: motherhood, processor, accelerator
[10:35] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, System >>
[10:35] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlet, only processsor -> executive cap its what it allows me to modify
[10:35] <cfhowlett> System > Boot Order
[10:36] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett there ir not Boot order option
[10:36] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, put up the image
[10:38] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, should look like this https://ibb.co/p0qMydz
[10:38] <InspectorCluseau> ;;tlast
[10:38] <InspectorCluseau> oops
[10:38] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett yes, true looks like that but I cannot modify anything, all grey
[10:39] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, did you shut down the machine?
[10:39] <qwebirc15895> top 3 in boot order clicked but i cannot modify them
[10:40] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett, not sure, how to shut down? sorry total noob :(
[10:40] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, ubuntu > shutdown
[10:44] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett ok so in Boot order what do i choose?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> to  boot from the hard drive ...
[10:46] <nara> Hello all, is it possible to have same make and models connected to one system via USB and print based on the printer name on ubuntu ?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> nara huh?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[10:48] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett ok, only click hardrive option, then ok and then start the machine?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> turn off all other boot options and reboot
[10:50] <uzee> Hi all, I'm trying to create a partitioning recipe with lvm for unattended installs. As far as I understand, I need to specify min, priority and max values for each partition. This implies that I always should know the underlying disk capacity. I was hoping I can deal with this in percentages so that whatever the disk size, it should do the right thing. I specified all percentages but the install breaks at installing linux-headers, which is after
[10:50] <uzee> the disk partitioning, but the console shows a "no space left on device" error
[10:51] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett ok, reboot you meant restart machine or reboot main laptop?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, think about what you just asked me for just a moment
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ...
[10:51] <cfhowlett> you are configuring the virtual machine.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> NOT your host machine
[10:52] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett ok, i reboot machine it says "Fatal not bootable medium found! System halted"
[10:52] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, then you probably did not install to the HDD
[10:53] <cfhowlett> WAIT
[10:53] <cfhowlett> did you download the ubuntu .iso to install from or did you get a pre-configured VM
[10:54] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett downloaded the ubuntu, i dont know where to get pre-configured VM
[10:54] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, which ubuntu did you download
[10:57] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop--amd64.iso
[10:58] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, OK .  tell me about the VM settings > hdd size, video ram ...
[11:00] <uzee> does anyone know how lvm partitioning can be done in preseed but based on percentage of disk space?
[11:00] <uzee> instead of absolute numbers for min, max, priority
[11:03] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett: base memory 1024, chip PIIX3, pointing device UBS, 1cpu, controller IDE ubuntu
[11:03] <cfhowlett> so ... no hard drive to install to?
[11:06] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett what do you mean? it's a virtutal machine to install ubuntu, not hardrive partition?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, where exactly do you think you are going to install ubuntu to?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> same as if your laptop had no hard drive
[11:07] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett I dont know i followed guide to install ubuntu in VM someone gave me here yesterday
[11:07] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett the VM machine says ubuntu operating system its weird
[11:07] <cfhowlett> and that guide stated that you need to configure a virtual hard drive
[11:09] <privism> qwebirc15895: How do you tell Ubuntu is installed?
[11:10] <cuppa_coffee> Hey all, anybody any idea why my ubuntu 19.04 is not finding my 5.1 surround set. As far as i can tell, all jacks are in the right holes but when testing only the rear left speaker is found
[11:10] <qwebirc15895> in general it says operating system ubuntu (64 bit)
[11:10] <privism> qwebirc15895: If you follow the guide correctly, after Ubuntu setup it will reboot to ubuntu.
[11:10] <qwebirc15895> I followed guide and it didnt work
[11:10] <privism> qwebirc15895: That means nothing, just a setting.
[11:11] <qwebirc15895> After a successful installation we have to remove our installation .iso image from the virtual optical drive before we reboot. This can be done from the "Devices" menu or by removing the .iso from the VM settings:
[11:11] <qwebirc15895> that part didnt work
[11:11] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, see the storage options?  see the Virtual Hard Drive?  https://postimg.cc/FdDv7gVR
[11:11] <privism> You don't need to do that because VM will eject media
[11:12] <cfhowlett> still need to set the boot options privism.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> otherwise, it will give the No boot media detected message
[11:12] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, check alsamixer for the listed vol ctrls and unmute them if muted
[11:12] <privism> In default order it will find HDD automatically unless user messed up something
[11:13] <cfhowlett> so far, it appears no hdd was created ... still awaiting confirmation
[11:13] <cuppa_coffee> @blueskaj, how do i find alsamixer?
[11:14] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett storage -> under controller SATA -> hector.vdi -> hard disk SATA port 0
[11:14] <privism> Possibly there's no HDD or he just boot live discs so nothing installed
[11:14] <cfhowlett> privism, yep
[11:14] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, type alsamixer in the console
[11:14] <cfhowlett> qwebirc15895, it appears you have an HDD.  I would guess you successfully booted to a live session but did not install.  try again
[11:16] <qwebirc15895> cfhowlett you mean try guide again, but what about last step that didnt work last time: After a successful installation we have to remove our installation .iso image from the virtual optical drive before we reboot. This can be done from the "Devices" menu or by removing the .iso from the VM settings:
[11:16] <cfhowlett> remember those boot settings we just did?
[11:17] <cuppa_coffee> BluesKaj, thanks, some settings were mutes indeed. Now im only missing the rear right speaker
[11:18] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, is it listed in alsamixer?
[11:19] <privism> qwebirc15895: Maybe you can try watching more updated step by step video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_bkHgEdYYI
[11:19] <privism> Since you haven't gone anywhere yet you can just delete VM with all files and start over again.
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !cookie | privism great suggestion!
[11:20] <BluesKaj> also do F6 in alsamixer and find the audiocard, the choose it
[11:20] <qwebirc15895> privism ok you mean delete the machine? or VMbox and resintall? will watch video thanks, im total noob xD
[11:20] <BluesKaj> then
[11:21] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, also make sure that automute is disabled
[11:21] <cuppa_coffee> BluesKaj, ive got master, headphones, pcm, front, front mic, front mic boost, surround, center, lfe, side, line, s/pdif, s/pdif default pcm, auto-mute, dynamic power control, loopback, rear mic and rear mic boost
[11:21] <privism> qwebirc15895: right click on the machine, select remove, and then click "delete all files"
[11:22] <cuppa_coffee> disbaled automute, still no rear right. All others still work :S
[11:23] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, then make sure your rear right audio connector on the sound panel is well connected
[11:24] <qwebirc15895> privism thanks will see video now and hopefully will work, thanks so much for all the support so far
[11:24] <privism> np
[11:26] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, which audio card ?
[11:27] <cuppa_coffee> well ill be dammed, some fiddling with the plugs seemed to help!
[11:27] <cuppa_coffee> BluesKaj, card is showing up as HDA ATI SB
[11:28] <dsuch> Hello, I am on Ubuntu MATE 18.04 and I have a question about Open File dialogs. Some programs, like Firefox or Sublime Text, do not show by default a location text box input when I press Ctrl-O to open a file.
[11:28] <dsuch> Instead there is a breadcrumbs like path which is not productive to use if I already have a full file path copied to clipboard already (e.g. from log files).
[11:28] <dsuch> I know I can use Ctrl-L but it is growing old to do it each time I need to open a file - do you perhaps know if the file location input box can be made permanently visible? Thanks a lot.
[11:29] <qwebirc15895> privism i select virtual hard disk, virtual machine disk or virtualbox disk image?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, run this in the console , it will show the audio driver, we need to know
[11:31] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:31] <cuppa_coffee> bas@Zeus:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:31] <cuppa_coffee>  0 snd_hda_intel
[11:31] <cuppa_coffee>  1 snd_hda_intel
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> dsuch: perhaps try also #ubuntu-mate
[11:32] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, ok run, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , in the console then you may need to reboot
[11:32] <dsuch> lotuspsychje: I will try it, thanks.
[11:33] <cuppa_coffee> BluesKaj, the whole 5.1 set now seems to work after fiddling with some cables. It seems some channels were muted in alsamixer, but are now nicely maxed out and the test makes them all make sound. Might be a crack in the cable as an extra?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, could be a cable problem, difficult to tell unless you swap it out
[11:35] <cuppa_coffee> BluesKaj, feared as much. This is a cheap set, so no easy swapping. Thank you very much for your help!
[11:36] <BluesKaj> cuppa_coffee, yw, good luck :-)
[11:45] <nara> Hello all, is it possible to have same make and models connected to one system via USB and print based on the printer name ?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> nara: man lpr
[11:56] <qwebirc15895> when installing ubuntu in virtual machine what name, computer name, username, etc i need to use? i heard "root" is needed? im confused?
[11:56] <EriC^^> qwebirc15895: those are arbitrary
[11:57] <EriC^^> put whatever you want, root isnt used in ubuntu you use sudo to get privileges
[11:58] <popey_> qwebirc15895: are you not following some online guide to install?
[12:05] <maxzor> Hello, a problem I thought solved reappeared few days ago. Ubu 19.04. When laptop lid closed, it goes into sleep mode. When I reopen the lid, the system tried to wake up, and the login screen is frozen. Even other ttys. Cannot do anything but force reboot (alt print SUB).
[12:05] <maxzor> I did two distro upgrades from 18.04 -> 18.10 -> 19.04
[12:05] <qwebirc15895> popey yes i am but in the video he mentions to put root and then he put just his name so im confused
[12:06] <maxzor> happens like 60% of every "sleep cycle"
[12:07] <anddam> ducasse: any additional insight?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> anddam: ducasse might be afk for now, re-ask in the channel please
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | maxzor
[12:10] <maxzor> lotuspsychje, ty
[12:10] <anddam> lotuspsychje: is there a proper way to let my user to rw-acces /dev/kvm* or should I just create a group and a custom udev rule?
[12:11] <anddam> btw I have no match in dmesg for "kvm", I'm not sure this is expected
[12:11] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: Is your user part of the same group that owns /dev/kvm
[12:12] <anddam> you mean the root group; no, it is not
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> maxzor: ddi you have the same issues on your other ubuntu versions?
[12:14] <maxzor> lotuspsychje, no
[12:15] <maxzor> did a double jump so not tried on 18.10, but no pb on 18.04
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> maxzor: maybe its wise to file a !bug against 19.04 then
[12:15] <maxzor> ill follow the acpi procedure you linked first, y
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> maxzor: ok
[12:18] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: typically you don't want to alter permissions of a directory or item, especially in the /dev path. Set your user as part of the root group. also, learn to use sudo to make edits. that's what it is there for
[12:18] <JPSman> Hey freedom lovers :)
[12:19] <qwebirc15895> i installed ubunut in VM, clicked restart and i got this msg: "please remove the installation medium then press enter"
[12:19] <JPSman> what VM are you using?
[12:19] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: there programs that assume access to devices, cf. disks or dialout groups
[12:19] <anddam> you are not going to run every terminal instance with sudo, you just want to be able to rw on the specific device
[12:20] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:20] <anddam> or the libvirtd group itself from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[12:20] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: I am not sure how I can rephrase that
[12:21] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: I would like to figure it Ubuntu has a "proper" way (i.e. some group already defined) to provide user access to /dev/kvm* devices
[12:21] <victorqueiroz> I've this problem that I only experience on Ubuntu and on my ThinkPads. When I hit brightness control buttons, the whole computer freezes for 1-2 seconds until I see the brightness really change. And the computer seems very leaky as well (Once I had 70% of the memory being used by gnome-shell and even after I executed "r" I still had a hard time using the computer because it was too slow)
[12:21] <victorqueiroz> I had this problem on Ubuntu 19.04
[12:21] <victorqueiroz> And early versions too
[12:21] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: You're going to have to try and explain what you are trying to do. I have never seen the need for a user to access anything in /dev directly.
[12:21] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: or if I should just add one I define and use a corresponding udev rule
[12:21] <qwebirc15895> hi
[12:21] <qwebirc15895> guys
[12:22] <cryptodan> anddam: that gets created when you install the virt manager
[12:22] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: seriously, never used a serial device?
[12:22] <qwebirc15895> someone can help?: i installed ubunut in VM, clicked restart and i got this msg: "please remove the installation medium then press enter"
[12:22] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: a modem, or fdisk/gdisk to format a new disk?
[12:23] <anddam> cryptodan: ok, I figure that much,  but did not install the whole qemu-kvm shebang, I just installed Android Studio that tries to access /dev/kvm
[12:23] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: for disk operations I use the sudo command like many others. Modem is controlled through Network Manager, there is no reason for me to interface directly with the device
[12:23] <pakcjo> Hi, is there a channel for package development? motu?
[12:23] <anddam> cryptodan: so I'm just using libvirtd group
[12:23] <cryptodan> anddam: also check the /etc/group file for groups to be added to
[12:23] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | pakcjo
[12:23] <anddam> pragmaticenigma: I use USB token that go over CDC, so I constantly use a terminal emulator on ttyACM*
[12:24] <pragmaticenigma> anddam: So you have an edge use case... kind of vital information to include with your question
[12:24] <anddam> cryptodan: again, if libvirtd had been in /etc/group I would have used it. Notice I was asking *if* there was a proper way _in Ubuntu_ *or* I should just set it up on my own
[12:24] <anddam> I see the point, thanks for the info
[12:25] <cryptodan> anddam: the application would be responsible for setting up that group when installed if it required it and to have users be part of it
[12:25] <qwebirc15895> popey i installed ubunut in VM, clicked restart and i got this msg: "please remove the installation medium then press enter"
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: what happens when you follow that instruction
[12:26] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc15895: So use the VM's controls to eject the media and press the enter key. If you don't know how. Go read the documentation of your VM application.
[12:26] <qwebirc15895> monekydust i dont know where or how to remove the installation medium, i havent pressed enter yet
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: hit enter
[12:27] <qwebirc15895> pragmaticenigma i installed from doanloaded file in windows to VM machine, nothing to eject
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: or close the VM client
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: is that virtualbox?
[12:29] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc15895: You didn't read my statement, I'll repeat. You VM program will have control menus. One of those menus has the ability to "eject" the media. If you didn't bother to read how to use your VM application, that's on you. Use google to find out how to eject media in your VM application. Example: "VirtualBox eject media"
[12:29] <qwebirc15895> monekydust hit enter directly? without removing that medium it say?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: yes, try it
[12:31] <thsnr> anddam: what version of ubuntu are you using? /dev/kvm should belong to group kvm as specified by /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
[12:31] <qwebirc15895> Monkeydust seems it work it asked for password and i log it, how to open linux terminal there now?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: ctrl alt t
[12:32] <McErroneous> Hi, does somebody by accident know the first version of Ubuntu that used upstart ?
[12:32] <anddam> thsnr: +79?
[12:32] <thsnr> yes
[12:32] <anddam> it's commented on my 18.04
[12:33] <anddam> I re-enabled that w/o the static option
[12:33] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust thanks, if i want to install sth from github etc can do all from VM? nothing will be downnloaded to windows?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: no, only in the vm
[12:34] <anddam> I need to rebuild to have the special file rebuilt according to new rule, right?
[12:34] <popey_> McErroneous: https://launchpad.net/upstart/+packages - 11.10?
[12:34] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust, ok lets see if it works, THANKS :)
[12:34] <popey_> McErroneous: oh, 9.10 is listed too
[12:35] <popey_> McErroneous: hah, scroll down further, 8.04 :)
[12:35] <anddam> I mean even 'udevadm trigger' won't recreate a device that is already presente, is that correct?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: yw ... lock the terminal icon in the taskbar
[12:35] <thsnr> anddam: i am not sure about that, i would have recommended trigger
[12:36] <thsnr> perhaps udevadm trigger /dev/kvm will do the trick
[12:37] <anddam> thsnr: tried sudo udevadm trigger --attr-match=kernel='kvm'  to no avail
[12:37] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust, you mean lock the VM ico in the windows taskbar on the lower right? how to do this?
[12:37] <thsnr> anddam: if you do not want to reboot then you can try to remove and reprobe the kvm kernel module
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: no... which version of ubuntu are you using
[12:37] <anddam> thsnr: oh right
[12:38] <anddam> thsnr: btw isn't it strange I do no see any match in dmesg for "kvm" (case insensitive)?
[12:38] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[12:39] <anddam> thsnr: probing the module back did the trick
[12:39] <TJ-> anddam: I may have missed it, but /lib/udev/rules.d/60-qemu-system-common.rules from qemu-system-common has the non-commented rule to set GROUP=kvm, MODE=0660, if that's of any use to you
[12:39] <McErroneous> Upstart is firmly established since Ubuntu 6.10, (wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Archiv/Upstart/)
[12:39] <anddam> TJ-: that's what I used, but I do not have any of the qemu- packages installed
[12:39] <hotforexagent> hi
[12:40] <TJ-> anddam: right; I wasn't following your convo so just wanted to ensure you were aware of it
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: moment, my own vm stalls
[12:41] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS, you mean lock the ubuntu machine in the VM taskbar? seems it is there already? on the left column
[12:41] <qwebirc15895> ok
[12:41] <thsnr> anddam: since dmesg is a ring buffer then any kvm module entries at boot might have already been overwritten
[12:42] <TJ-> anddam: that package can be installed without the heavyweight QEMU binaries for emulation
[12:43] <thsnr> that might be a better idea then modifying /lib files manually :) eventhough the line is enabled (uncommented) since 18.10
[12:44] <TJ-> anddam:  thsnr As I recall the kvm modules no longer do a printk(INFO...) as they did years ago
[12:44] <TJ-> anddam: so no "kvm:" in dmesg would be expected
[12:44] <thsnr> good to know
[12:49] <qwebirc15895> MonkeyDust will wait for your update before i do anything else in the VM
[13:03] <qwebirc15895> what does this mean in VM ubuntu machine: "lock the terminal icon in the taskbar"
[13:05] <qwebirc15895> hi
[13:19] <llcy> Hey everyone! I want to create an `alias` for php. Like, p() { php ${1}.php } -- except I want this to work with all the arguments, too. So `p x y z` should be expanded to `php p.php x y z`. How can I accomplish this?
[13:20] <llcy> and in some cases, I want to re-arrange some args. Like $3 $1 $2, and then all the remaining arguments at the end, without knowing how many of them there are. Is this possible?
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> llcy: Please don't cross post, our community guidelines ask that you politely wait in the channel you first asked
[13:22] <llcy> pragmaticenigma, sorry! wont do it again! I got a response on #bash, in case anyone attempts to answer :/
[13:23] <GivenToCode> Hi, we are updating some server images to 18.04. The images are deployed to both aws and non-aws environments. What is the difference between linux-generic-hwe-18.04 and linux-aws-hwe-18.04?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc15895: you experiment a bit in a vm, click here and there
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> GivenToCode: One is a customized kernel specific to being used in the AWS environment, the other is HWE kernel provided by Canonical
[13:30] <samba35> lotuspsychje, sorry
[13:30] <samba35> it was pain
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> samba35: lotuspsychje has stepped away
[13:32] <samba35> ok no issue but i must say thanks to him ,there was system related issuse but he try to him me at his best
[13:32] <skyweb>  /msg NickServ identify
[13:33] <samba35> what is differance in apt upgrade and full-upgrade ?
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> samba35: take a look at "man apt"
[13:34] <samba35> so what is recommand upgrade or full-upgrade  ?
[13:34] <popey_> the latter, usually
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> samba35: Unless you have a specific reason to, "apt upgrade" is usually sufficient
[13:35] <samba35> ok
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> samba35: That is why I pointed you to look at the documentation. The choice in the commands depends on what you are trying to accomplish
[13:36] <samba35> ok
[13:36] <samba35> thanks
[13:36] <samba35> pragmaticenigma, you are from ubuntu ?
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> samba35: Everyone here is a volunteer
[13:37] <popey_> if you have a separate /boot partition (for example if you use disk encryption) full-upgrade might be preferred so your /boot doesn't run out of space (which can happen)
[13:38] <samba35> ok .. :)
[13:38] <Paddy_NI> Hello I am wondering if anyone can help me get rid of a couple of pixel overlap on my primary display?  I have two displays hooked up to their own graphics cards both older radeon cards using radeon drivers. My primary display is on the right (hooked up via DVI) and secondary on the left (hooked up via VGA, D-SUB).  The secondary display trespasses on the primary by maybe 2 pixels on the left edge.
[13:43] <Paddy_NI> I am told to use xrandr to fix this however it makes the displays behave and look very oddly and results in them also being mirrored as opposed to being joined
[13:44] <Paddy_NI> The primary display (DVI) is 1600x900 and the secondary is 1366x768
[13:45] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: use something like "xrandr --output HDMI-1 --left-of eDP-1" (puts the external HDMI to left of an built-in LCD (on my laptop)
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, How would I get the proper interface names?
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> Oh silly me
[13:45] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: "xrandr -q"
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> xrandr
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> Okay so "DVI-0" is my primary and "VGA-1-0" is my secondary
[13:46] <whishes> join server irc.all4y.net
[13:49] <lol768> Hi folks. I installed a new CPU yesterday. System seemed to work, but today there are .. issues and it no longer boots
[13:50] <lol768> I can get into an init=/bin/bash and do an fsck of my rootfs but fsck segfaults
[13:51] <TJ-> lol768: sounds like hardware issue... check CPU is seated, that RAM modules haven't been disturbed, that disk cables are firmly connected
[13:52] <lol768> Any tips on how to rule certain things out? I did a memtest86 yesterday and it seemed fine. Just open it up and check everything? Try a live disk?
[13:52] <TJ-> lol768: does it happen after some time of operating? in which case suspect thermal issues
[13:52] <TJ-> lol768: replacing a CPU usually infers fitting a heat-sinkn
[13:53] <TJ-> lol768: and that infers you need to spread some thermal paste *evenly* on the CPU
[13:53] <lol768> Thermal paste was on the rear of the heatsink
[13:53] <TJ-> lol768: depending on PC it may infer a fan, too
[13:53] <lol768> I did check it had spread onto the CPU
[13:53] <GivenToCode> pragmaticenigma, re: aws hwe, do you know if the differences between aws and generic are documented anywhere?
[13:54] <TJ-> lol768: before you fitted the heatsink did you ensure none of the new CPU's pins/legs were bent - that is a hard one to spot without re-lifting the CPU to check
[13:54] <lol768> No, but i can try and check that. Is there a nice and easy way to lift the CPU back out?
[13:55] <lol768> Obviously remove heatsink, retract metal lever
[13:55] <lol768> .. pull? :P
[13:56] <pragmaticenigma> GivenToCode: I do not, typically differences are optimizations for the operating environment. Things like unnecassary driver modules are removed, or tweaked for better performance of the environment they are going to be working with in
[13:56] <TJ-> lol768: indeed :) I usually fit the CPU, lock the lever, then immediately unlock and lift it to check the legs are fine, before fitting a heatsink
[13:56] <TJ-> lol768: but before you do that check all the other things, like monitoring the temperatures
[13:57] <lol768> Temps seemed _okay_ in the BIOS
[13:57] <TJ-> lol768: also check the kernel log (dmesg) for clues when it fails
[13:57] <lol768> That's a good shout
[13:58] <lol768> I love dealing with hardware 🙄
[13:58] <TJ-> lol768: monitor temps from the OS, as in "grep . /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/temp "
[13:58] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, That command does exactly what I already have and retains the overlap. I suppose I need to figure out the "--pos". Thank you for simplifying that for me :-)
[13:59] <lol768> Good idea
[13:59] <lol768> Thanks for all that :)
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, If the primary display is being overlapped by the secondary then which display do I need to target with the positioning?
[14:00] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: the overlap you're on about, I think you're mistaken!
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, How so?
[14:00] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I'm going to bet what you're talking about is you've made an application full-screen on one monitor and can see it's border on the other?
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Not even fullscreen
[14:01] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: does the *desktop* of the left monitor appear on the right monitor?
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> if I even put my mouse in that overlap it shows on the other dislay
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> *display
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yes
[14:02] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: ahh, OK, I stand corrected then. Because you've got 2 GPUs with potentially different drivers, we need to collect some more info.
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, FYI it does this with one card
[14:02] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: let's start with "pastebinit <( uname -r; lsb_release -a; xrandr -q; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log )"
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> I am currently using two but it still does it with one card
[14:03] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Both cards are old radeon cards that are both using the radeon driver
[14:05] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cDFwhBgDPn/
[14:05] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: it sounds like a video memory mapping issue, which I've seen a few times over the years, but they're rare
[14:05] <Paddy_NI> pastebinit seems to have some issues
[14:06] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I have had this issue with arch, kde neon, xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu mate for the past 3 or 4 releases
[14:06] <Paddy_NI> It's most certainly to do with these monitors
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> Given that I have had the same issue on completely different hardware.
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> With one gpu
[14:07] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: what a great warning msg! "(WW) RADEON(G0): 3 ZaphodHeads crtcs unavailable. Some outputs will stay off."
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> Interesting
[14:08] <TJ-> The monitors will only display what is sent to them, I cannot think of a way that a monitor could display something meant for the other - this a GPU issue
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, So the other computer I have with intel graphics that does the same thing is also a gpu issue?
[14:09] <qwebirc15895> hi when typing in ubunut VM keyboard is not what i have french keyboard, how to change?
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Is it possible in the current case that one of the cards does not support glamour and the other does?
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> Or the tearing "auto" is causing issues?
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> I wish I had more knowledge in this area :-)
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> I guess I can't know everything... :-(
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> lol
[14:11] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: line 947 is where they get combined; the X,Y range looks correct there: [  1134.470] (II) RADEON(0): Allocate new frame buffer 2966x900
[14:12] <qwebirc15895> hi
[14:12] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I've never seen this message before "randr: falling back to unsynchronized pixmap sharing" and it raises my suspicions so is something to follow up on and understand its implications
[14:12] <qwebirc15895> hi when typing in ubunut VM keyboard is not what i have french keyboard, how to change?
[14:13] <Paddy_NI> When I used Arch TJ- I also used a dvi to vga adapter so that both displays at that time used VGA.  I resolved the overlap at that time by resetting the displays using their OSD controls at the same time and rapidly pressing auto
[14:13] <Paddy_NI> With my now using DVI auto is not available on the primary
[14:14] <Paddy_NI> I never did like the strain the dvi adapter put on the connector of my pc so I am kinda glad to be rid of it
[14:14] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Also if I use wayland I don't have this issue.  Sadly Wayland is not quite ready yet
[14:15] <Paddy_NI> Also wayland resolves screen tearing for me
[14:15] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: in AMD/Radeon land there is apparently a 'technology' called "Eyefinity" for multi-monitors, and one of its 'knobs' is being able to adjust the width of an overlapping "bezel" - I suspect this is what you are seeing
[14:16] <Paddy_NI> Oh, I wonder if that means I need to start messing with xorg.conf
[14:16] <qwebirc15895> how to change keyboard to french in ubuntu VM?
[14:16] <Paddy_NI> Hopefully not but if it fixes it I will gladly learn how
[14:16] <sanji515> hello everyone,
[14:16] <sanji515> I'm using puppeteer which installed `Headless chrome browser` but it has some missing package so I used command `ldd chrome | grep not` for listing the missing package and installed  it manually but can I automate this process by running the one script so that it can list and install those packages
[14:16] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: this link describes it (Windows specific) but does detail the Bezel adjust. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-014
[14:19] <ndayalan> qwebirc15895: To change the keyboard layout, go to the system menu and select "System Settings". Then select "Region & Language" on the left of the items list to open the panel.
[14:20] <qwebirc15895> ndayalan I did but I have to install new langauages and I get error to install
[14:20] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Do you think I could configure the xrandr command to configure the positioning?
[14:20] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I'm not sure, not used Radeon/AMD
[14:21] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: but this bezel adjust does seem to describe what you're experiencing
[14:21] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Would that matter?
[14:21] <ndayalan> qwebirc15895: Click the + button in the "Input Sources" section, select the language which is associated with the layout, then select a layout and press "Add"
[14:21] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Supposedly though only on extended mode?
[14:22] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I am using joined, extended seems to treat both displays as one big desktop with panel etc spanning both
[14:22] <Paddy_NI> No pretty :-)
[14:22] <ndayalan> qwebirc15895: When you add a new input source, it becomes available to use and it's shown in the list below Input Sources.
[14:22] <Paddy_NI> Not rather
[14:30] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: you could look through the Xorg Driver/Radeon bug list here to see if you can find something that describes the issue, I've not found anything so far. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=Driver%2FRadeon&order=changeddate%20DESC%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&product=xorg&query_format=advanced&resolution=---
[14:31] <ndayalan> qwebirc15895: you can also fix this via the command line: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration", the keyboard type on the first screen will likely be correct ("Generic") then when you hit OK (Enter) the other screens will prompt you for language etc. use arrow keys to scroll up and down between options and "Enter" for OK
[14:31] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: you really need someone familiar and expert with radeon multi-monitor config
[14:31] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, It's a real head scratcher lol
[14:31] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Agreed
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, What am I loosing out on when using wayland?
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> Typically
[14:32] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: not sure; I don't use it so not had chance to discover trade-offs
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> As it does not happen under wayland I might be able to get by with it
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, No worries, I really appreciate your time. Thank you very much :-)
[14:37] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: the fact you can fix it in xorg with this "joined" vs "extended" modes too suggests it should be adjustable somehow, but the adjust sounds to be internal to the radeon driver, not something xrandr can access
[14:37] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, The radeon driver is the open source one no?
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, The refresh rate on "DVI-0" is "59.95*+" and the refresh rate on "VGA-1-0" is "59.79*+" according to xrandr -q
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> Would that be meaningless
[14:40] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I presume so - I'm thinking about the GUI settings you have access to also. I'm not aware of what is available for radeon in this area. I know Nvidia drivers have the nvidia-settings tools, I assume Radeon has something similar
[14:41] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Not at all, you would need to use the proprietary drivers for that afaik
[14:41] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: those are what the monitors tell the GPU they support, nothing to do with this bezel issue
[14:41] <Paddy_NI> Ah
[14:41] <Paddy_NI> Thought it would have been a syncing issue
[14:41] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: is the Pc using Linuc exclusively, or does it dual-boot Windows?
[14:41] <Paddy_NI> Just clutching at straws so I am :-)
[14:42] <Paddy_NI> Linux exclusively
[14:43] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: OK ... I had this vague wonder if a warm reboot from Windows to Linux might be leaving the GPU configured this way, and the linux driver (not knowing about bezel overlap) would leave a Windows adjustment setting inside the GPU
[14:43] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: do you get the bezel if you switch layouts (as a test) ? As in, put the monittor that is usually on the left, to the right (in software - don't physically move them!)
[14:44] <Paddy_NI> It's possible I suppose, I wonder if I can get a windows live environment.  I guess that would be a nightmare as drivers would need to be installed and it would need a reboot which would be unfeasible
[14:44] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: ignore the Windows angle if it isn't a dual-boot system
[14:44] <Paddy_NI> Actually I think that does away with the overlap. just a sec
[14:44] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I'm just trying to come up with rationale hypothesis for a weird issue!
[14:45] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: aha, so could it be related to the dimensions of each display I wonder?
[14:45] <popey_> have we seen output from xrandr ?
[14:45] <popey_> (I have the overlap issue in KDE Neon sometimes, if I don't arrange monitors correctly / precisely)
[14:45] <TJ-> maybe its some weirdness of calculation in rounding, when the larger is to the right of the smaller, or visa-versa
[14:45] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, That's a point I should have made earlier
[14:46] <Paddy_NI> popey_, Yeah I had the same issues with neon. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cDFwhBgDPn/
[14:46] <TJ-> popey_: see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cDFwhBgDPn/
[14:46] <popey_> Paddy_NI: what desktop you on right now?
[14:46] <Paddy_NI> If I pull the monitors apart using the display settings in gnome the overlap vanishes however I cannot mouse over between them
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> Ubuntu 19.04
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> GNOME
[14:47] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I'd have said - if you only posititioned the monitors using the drag-n-drop GUI tool, that you'd accidentally created the overlap. But as the "xrandr --output X --left-of Y" also cuased it, I think that can be ruleed out
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yeah I originally thought just that
[14:47] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I wonder if the GUI drag-n-drop isn't causing this - does it have a "snap" action that brings the 2 displays together when they get close?
[14:47] <popey_> i would delete or backup/move the .config/monitors.xml, logout / login and re-try using only the UI, no xrandr
[14:48] <popey_> corruption in monitors.xml has bitten me before
[14:48] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yes they snap together
[14:48] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: ^^^^^
[14:48] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: that's a good suggestion from popey_
[14:49] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: I have to go now, got Huskies to run! Good luck
[14:49] <popey_> o/
[14:49] <Paddy_NI> popey_, An interesting point. When I was trying to resolve screen tearing by creating a 20.radeon.conf file it would freeze upon trying to login from gdm.  When I switched to a tty and removed the 20 radeon file it logged in straight to the desktop without the overlap with the displays in my desired positioning
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> I am going to try what you said now popey_
[14:50] <popey_> cool
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> Guys thank you btw I really do appreciate this :-)
[14:50] <popey_> no problemo, it's annoying, i know
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> brb
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> Okay so I logged out and when I tried to log back in popey it froze on the GDM login screen.  I switched to a tty, logged in and rebooted the computer.  Logged back in successfully and the monitors defaulted to the wrong sides. I adjusted them back so display 2 was on the right and I have the overlap back again
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> My Wife doesn't understand what the problem is....
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> lol
[14:57] <Paddy_NI> Apparently I am being too much of a perfectionist.  I AM NOT MAD!!!
[14:57] <Paddy_NI> X-D
[14:59] <Mead> wait, you are in #ubuntu and claiming to have a wife? I call shinanigans!
[14:59] <Paddy_NI> lol
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> Yeah I was quite surprised too
[15:00] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install spouse
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> The sudo part is essential
[15:00] <SimonNL> reinstall ?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> lol
[15:01] <cfhowlett> I think install -f might also be called for
[15:01] <Paddy_NI> If I mention that I am still trying to fix these pixels I think I will be getting purged before long
[15:01] <Mead> E: Unable to locate package wife   maybe I need to install a new repository,  is there one for mail order russian wives?
[15:02] <Paddy_NI> I need to start being productive, popey if it is okay with you perhaps I can ping you later today?
[15:02] <leftyfb> Mead: can we help you with something?
[15:03] <Mead> yeah,  can you point me to some info on how to connect to and browse SMB shares via CLI?
[15:04] <thsnr> Mead: check out smbclient
[15:04] <leftyfb> Mead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[15:05] <leftyfb> Mead: first result on google for "Ubuntu samba command line"
[15:06] <Mead> leftyfb: No I've got the SMB share up and running on another machine already, I want to access it
[15:06] <thsnr> step 8 of the guide
[15:07] <leftyfb> Mead: we cannot help you if you don't bother reading instructions
[15:12] <popey_> Paddy_NI: sure
[15:18] <Co2ooZieJi> Why was the recent MDS kernel update(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS) distributed in the 'updates' pocket and not the 'security' pocket? If it had been in 'security' then some servers with the standard automatic update would have installed it.
[15:21] <tomreyn> i don't know the answer to your question, but know this: generally, security patches move from -security to -updates after a (sometimes short?) while. -security is really just there as a central infrastructure (i.e. everyone should use "security.ubuntu.com" in sources.list) to ensure fast propagation of security patches to affected systems.
[15:22] <tomreyn> Co2ooZieJi: ^
[15:22] <tomreyn> i.e. if you only have -security enabled but not -updates you're doing it wrong, i'd say, since you'll likley miss critical security patches.
[15:24] <tomreyn> and maybe i'm wrong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#How_are_the_.22-updates.22_and_.22-security.22_pockets_different.3F
[15:26] <tomreyn> yes, i'm wrong there, sorry.
[15:26] <popey_> A question for the security team, who hang out in #ubuntu-hardened
[15:27] <Co2ooZieJi> tomreyn, Thanks for the reply. The standard configuration of unattended-upgrades only enables "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security" as a default pocket to install from. I thought it was strange that the patch skipped -security and went straight to -updates
[15:27] <Co2ooZieJi> popey_, Thanks I'll ask in #ubuntu-hardened
[15:28] <ioria> i think because has shipped with the new -50 kernel (alias in -updates)
[15:31] <other_rick> Hi, how I can know if the X is using framebuffer?
[15:32] <nicenoob> hi
[15:32] <nicenoob> if someone can answer my question i will wait here
[15:32] <leftyfb> !ask | nicenoob
[15:33] <nicenoob> oh im sorry
[15:34] <nicenoob> so i got the ubuntu boot files (extracted them from 7zip) will my dvd work if i copy the boot files to the disc or i need to burn them?
[15:34] <leftyfb> nicenoob: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[15:34] <popey_> nicenoob: whats the actual goal here?
[15:34] <popey_> hah :)
[15:35] <nCrazed> bootable media?
[15:35] <nicenoob> yeah
[15:35] <nicenoob> i have a DVD
[15:35] <leftyfb> nicenoob: burn the iso as you normall burn iso's. As an image, usin an iso imaging tool
[15:35] <leftyfb> nicenoob: I like to use etcher.io
[15:35] <nicenoob> oh ok
[15:36] <nicenoob> i thought it would work if i copied them to the dvd folder
[15:37] <nicenoob> thank you
[15:37] <benyaminxploit> hello
[15:38] <nicenoob> hi
[15:38] <benyaminxploit> wht ar u come from?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ this is ubuntu worldwide support.  what is your ubuntu question?
[15:40] <nicenoob> if this works, im going to try ubuntu and might install it
[15:41] <nicenoob> linux is great
[15:41] <nicenoob> but im a newbie
[15:41] <benyaminxploit> yeah me to
[15:41] <nicenoob> what is your question benyaminxploit
[15:42] <nicenoob> this is the support channel
[15:42] <benyaminxploit> my question ?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ the topic is ubuntu support.  what is your support question?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> chitchat/jibberjabber is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:49] <ndayalan> I was trying to find the font that I use in the terminal and the output I get from the command "fc-match" is "Vera.ttf: Bitstream Vera Sans" "Roman". I would like to know whether the above font is the one am I using or it displays the match available fonts as mentioned in the man page.
[15:50] <benyaminxploit> Ubuntu is an open source software operating system that runs from the desktop, so what does it mean from open source?
[15:50] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ quite easy to google that
[15:51] <benyaminxploit> haha oke
[15:52] <benyaminxploit> actually what are the weaknesses of ubuntu?
[15:52] <thsnr> ndayalan: fc-match searches for fonts given a pattern (empty in your case), check your terminal settings for the font used
[15:53] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:56] <benyaminxploit> why do many people come in and out? even though this is a good forum for beginners, lots of things to learn here
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !silence | benyaminxploit
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | benyaminxploit
[15:56] <popey_> benyaminxploit: because there are a lot of people using Ubuntu, and people often boot up and shutdown their computers.
[15:58] <benyaminxploit> okey,good reason
[15:58] <McErroneous> Hey, which command was used in Ubuntu 5.10 to manage services ? With which version of Ubuntu was the "service"-command beeing introduced ?
[16:00] <ndayalan> thsnr: is there any similar commands like "dpkg-reconfigure" to change fonts
[16:00] <thsnr> ndayalan: what terminal are you using?
[16:01] <ndayalan> thsnr: st-256color
[16:02] <benyaminxploit> oh yeah how do you run xchat?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | benyaminxploit
[16:02] <cfhowlett> no one should be running xchat!!!!
[16:02] <cfhowlett> nor should it still be default in ubuntu ...
[16:04] <thsnr> ndayalan: configuration of the st font happens at compile-time. did you build it yourself or install a package?
[16:04] <benyaminxploit> why not run xchat?
[16:04] <thsnr> ndayalan: the default is "Liberation Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:autohint=true"
[16:04] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ you have to read the information people send >>> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[16:05] <McErroneous> ubuntu dont know...
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> !patience | McErroneous
[16:07] <ndayalan> thsnr: I compile it myself and I could see the default in file config.h but I wish to know other fonts available to me to change it in Ubuntu 16.04
[16:08] <thsnr> ndayalan: fc-match -a will print a list of available fonts
[16:09] <leftyfb> McErroneous: why are you asking about a release from 14 years ago?
[16:09] <hggdh> McErroneous: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is *old*. You would probably find your answer  faster if you installed it under a VM
[16:11] <ndayalan> thsnr: is it possible to use these fonts in tty also
[16:12] <McErroneous> Ubuntu does not have tradition, wiki-pages are deleted, and "calling it self"/"aims to be"  the best documented Linux distro.. ?
[16:13] <McErroneous> hggdh: how would that help ?
[16:13] <McErroneous> hggdh: i installed it already...
[16:13] <hggdh> McErroneous: do you have a support question? 5.10 is not supported anymore
[16:13] <cfhowlett> this ^^^^
[16:13] <ndayalan> thsnr: also I boot the system in text mode to read the messages, there the font looks different
[16:13] <McErroneous> hahaha, just say, i dont know...,
[16:14] <hggdh> McErroneous: ok. Can you please stop now?
[16:15] <McErroneous> upgrade n update is typical ubuntu answer... , hggdh i dont want anything from you..., you replied to my question, by making irrelevant suggestions...
[16:15]  * cfhowlett tests the functionality of hexchat /ignore command.  It works!
[16:15] <hggdh> McErroneous: stop now
[16:16] <benyaminxploit> anyone know linux times server here?
[16:16] <tomreyn> benyaminxploit: do you mean network time protocol servers?
[16:16] <thsnr> ndayalan: afaik tty requires use of bitmap fonts so they are not all usable. that is also what you are seeing when booting in text mode
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !ntp | benyaminxploit
[16:17] <thsnr> but others might correct me
[16:17] <josmar> Tengo algunos problemas con mi ubuntu
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !es | josmar
[16:18] <McErroneous> I have a printed documentation, but in the index i cant find "service" or daemon....
[16:18] <benyaminxploit> I mean channel kali linux
[16:18] <cfhowlett> !kali | benyaminxploit
[16:27] <jameson777> Hey everybody!
[16:28] <bonzibuddy> Hello!
[16:28] <jameson777> I have a trouble with a boot partition, as it somehow changed keyboard layout, luks password isn't accepted, could someone help me to rebuild boot partition?
[16:31] <TJ-> jameson777: the boot partition doesn't affect that. What may affect it, is changing system keyboard map that is set in the initialramfs (initrd.img-*)
[16:32] <plongshot> I just got some warnings realated to intramfs upgrades. Should I correct this so I don't see this anymore?
[16:32] <plongshot> https://pastebin.com/wW7GZPHq
[16:33] <plongshot> Ubuntu Server 18.04
[16:34] <TJ-> plongshot: is the system using LUKS encryption?
[16:35] <plongshot> Here: this give better context shows the rest of the output.   https://pastebin.com/UJB1CEsn
[16:35] <jameson777> TJ-: How to regenerate initramfs wit right US keyboard layout?
[16:36] <TJ-> jameson777: what does "locale" report (put it in a pastebin if you can)
[16:37] <jameson777> TJ-: I cannot boot, i can only get into chroot..
[16:37] <whitenoise> hey guys, i'm looking for more information on CVE-2019-11815 -- short of upgrading to 5.0.8 kernel, are there any other options? are there minor release fixes from 4.x versions?
[16:38] <TJ-> jameson777: So the crux here is you cannot enter some language-specific keys that are part of the LUKS passphrase?
[16:38] <jameson777> Yes
[16:39] <TJ-> jameson777: ok, cwhere have you mounted the chroot, what path?
[16:40] <jameson777> TJ-: mounted as volume group to /mnt
[16:41] <Jackneill> hi.
[16:41] <TJ-> jameson777: OK, so "cat /mnt/etc/{keyboard,locale} "
[16:41] <jameson777> TJ-: 15mins, preparing new vm
[16:41] <Jackneill> when i try to boot i get a purple empty screen. i have ssd encryption (lvm). sometimes grub appear sometimes not
[16:42] <Jackneill> i just recently did a do-release-upgrade
[16:42] <Jackneill> any idea?
[16:42] <Jackneill> (asus vivobook s14)
[16:46] <benyaminxploit> :v
[16:47] <jameson777> TJ-: There is no keyboard or locale files in /etc
[16:49] <benyaminxploit> There are people here?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> benyaminxploit: only ubuntu questions here please
[16:49] <benyaminxploit> what's the weakness of ubuntu?
[16:50] <TJ-> jameson777: that might be part of the issue, if they haven't been set
[16:51] <cfhowlett> benyaminxploit/ biggest weakness is between the keyboard and display
[16:51] <tomreyn> Jackneill: what did you upgrade from and to?
[16:51] <Jackneill> 18.04
[16:52] <benyaminxploit> lotuspsychje what's your bot
[16:52] <tomreyn> Jackneill: So you upgraded from Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS?
[16:52] <Jackneill> no thats from
[16:52] <Jackneill> to , what do-release-upgrade gave me
[16:52] <Jackneill> 4.18.0-20-generic is the kernel
[16:53] <benyaminxploit> lotuspsychje What do you mean
[16:53] <tomreyn> Jackneill: are you able to run commands on this system now?
[16:54] <Jackneill> i can edit grub conf
[16:54] <Jackneill> i mean i can get to the grub booloade
[16:54] <TJ-> Jackneill: *when* did you do the do-release-upgrade? Today?
[16:54] <tomreyn> Jackneill: on the grub menu, select advanced, then recovery.
[16:55] <Jackneill> TJ-, yes
[16:55] <TJ-> Jackneill: tomreyn so in theory it should be to 18.10 or 19.04?
[16:55] <jameson777> TJ-: I updated locales, but when i run update-grub, ubuntu on encrypted volume i nots found, and when run update-initramfs -u, there is problem with /etc/crypttab..
[16:55] <plongshot> TJ-: Just saw that.  I think so. Let me check
[16:55] <TJ-> jameson777: you're doing that in the chroot?
[16:55] <tomreyn> TJ-: my guess is 18.10, but so far we can only guess.
[16:56] <jameson777> TJ-: Preparing /boot, grub-install, uptate-initramfs -u
[16:56] <Jackneill> TJ-, yes.
[16:56] <tomreyn> Jackneill: let me know when you reach the recovery menu.
[16:56] <TJ-> jameson777: when you prepared the chroot did you mount into it /dev /sys /proc and so on?
[16:56] <jameson777> Sure
[16:57] <TJ-> jameson777: so in theory there is no reason that the LUKS file-system cannot be found.
[16:57] <TJ-> jameson777: is /boot/ in the root file-system, or is it on a separate file-system?
[16:57] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i have reached the menu, and resumed. now i am in gdm login screen. albeit low resolution. so i guess a graphics driver issue? this laptop only has intel i5 cpu, with integrated stuff.
[16:57] <plongshot> TJ-: I don't think so
[16:57] <jameson777> Yes
[16:58] <plongshot> TJ-: But my os is installed on /dev/sdb not sda
[16:58] <TJ-> jameson777: and is /boot/ file-system also LUKS encrypted?
[16:58] <EriC^^> jameson777: it's a separate filesystem?
[16:58] <jameson777> TJ-: No, boot is not encrypted, only problem is now that in chroot when i run update-initramfs -u i get invalid line /etc/crypttab
[16:59] <tomreyn> Jackneill: maybe. that's not where i wanted you to go, but now that youR'e there: are you able to login there?
[16:59] <Jackneill> yes
[16:59] <Jackneill> i guess everything is working fine just low resolution
[16:59] <plongshot> TJ-: Sorry scratch that last comment. That was my laptop (local machine) that I was thinking of
[16:59] <TJ-> jameson777: OK, so the issue isn't update-grub breaking LUKS, its the initialramfs build, due to some issue with the crypttab
[16:59] <tomreyn> Jackneill: run this in a terminal, and post the http address it returns:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[17:00] <jameson777> Yes, i need only fix crypttab so i cant fix boot, and boot into system and export bitcoins :)
[17:00] <TJ-> jameson777: have you made recent changes to /etc/crypttab? have you examined it closely and verified it contains valid references to devices (UUIDs, etc.) ?
[17:00] <TJ-> jameson777: sounds like there may be a syntax error in crypttab
[17:01] <jameson777> TJ-: Well, this is raw backup, i have no physical system for now
[17:01] <TJ-> jameson777: you're trying to do the recovery in a virtual machine? That should make no difference at this level
[17:01] <jameson777> Yes
[17:02] <jameson777> It should but i'm not expert
[17:02] <TJ-> jameson777: is the VM image of a raw disk including the partition table?
[17:02] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/17c5
[17:02] <jameson777> Yes, converted raw to vdi
[17:02] <TJ-> jameson777: are you able to pastebin the crypttab so we can check its syntax?
[17:03] <tomreyn> Jackneill: okay, so you upgraded to ubuntu 18.10
[17:03] <tomreyn> !18.10 | Jackneill
[17:03] <jameson777> TJ-:root@dell-VirtualBox:/# cat /etc/crypttab
[17:03] <jameson777> sdb_crypt UUID=b183120b-9b99-4848-8f4c-60b263b6fe0c none luks,discard
[17:04] <tomreyn> Jackneill: you could consider to just ignore the graphics issue and upgrade to 19.04 now
[17:04] <Jackneill> tomreyn, sounds fine
[17:04] <tomreyn> Jackneill: press ctrl-alt-f3 and login and run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:04] <jameson777> TJ-: How should i regenerate crypttab entry, which uuid should i enter?
[17:05] <Jackneill> tomreyn, already running though via terminal
[17:05] <TJ-> jameson777: aha! I think I know what the issue is, and it isn't in the crypttab!
[17:05] <tomreyn> Jackneill: the goal there is that you'll not depend on X
[17:05] <TJ-> jameson777: You mentioned the VM image is VDI, which is VMware is it not?
[17:05] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i see
[17:05] <Jackneill> tomreyn, then ctrl-c sec
[17:05] <jameson777> No, VDI is Virtualbox and VMDK is VMware
[17:06] <jameson777> TJ-: please note that this system were never run in vm
[17:06] <TJ-> Jackneill: and the error is that an entry in /etc/fstab refers to "/dev/sda" but if I recall correctly, VMware doesn't name its disk devices that way. If I am correct, and you can do in the VM chroot "ls /sys/block/" check what the disk names are
[17:06] <TJ-> oh tab complete!!! Sorry Jackneill
[17:07] <TJ-> jameson777: and the error is that an entry in /etc/fstab refers to "/dev/sda" but if I recall correctly, VMware doesn't name its disk devices that way. If I am correct, and you can do in the VM chroot "ls /sys/block/" check what the disk names are
[17:08] <jameson777> TJ-: Names are right in /sys/block
[17:08] <TJ-> jameson777: OK, then you'd better pastebin /etc/fstab fofr us
[17:08] <jameson777> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[17:08] <jameson777> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[17:08] <jameson777> # /boot was on /dev/sda2 during installation
[17:08] <jameson777> UUID=8ef2378b-3299-4a73-83a4-7aa9df35e8f1 /boot           ext4    defaults        0       2
[17:08] <jameson777> # /boot/efi was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[17:08] <jameson777> UUID=74F9-DF3F  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[17:08] <jameson777> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:09] <tomreyn> !paste | jameson777
[17:10] <jameson777> ?
[17:10] <TJ-> jameson777: is the LVM VG active? Does "ls /dev/mapper" show ubuntu--vg-root ?
[17:10] <jameson777> Ok, I'm back, no more multilines
[17:10] <jameson777> Yes I can see mapped volumes in chroot
[17:12] <TJ-> jameson777: and that also appears inside the chroot ?
[17:13] <TJ-> jameson777: the errors in your original pastebin and this diagnosis don't seem to match up right now - mention of /dev/sda for example, I'm not sure where that is coming from
[17:13] <jameson777> control  ubuntu  ubuntu--vg-root  ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[17:15] <gambl0r3> how do i make chromium to be the default web browsr?
[17:16] <qwebirc43287> hi. i have tried to install a lot of linux distros and flavors. ubuntu xubuntux lununtu kubuntu, manjaro,mint.....all of them(on any version from 16.04 to 18.10) but lubuntu 16.04 take about 1 min to boot and about 30sec to go from login screen to desktop if it is dual boot or not. also, if i just upgrade from lubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 , same happens.  haw can i fix it?
[17:16] <TJ-> jameson777: right now I'm stumped. I'm guessing this is related to copying the original disk image into a VM - but I may be wrong :p
[17:17] <activist> hi. i could use my TV screen with HDMI without any problem but today i updated my OS and after this update i can not use only TV screen. I was doing Windows+P and i could use only TV screen but now i can't. When i try to do same thing it is doing extended screen. I couldn't figure out :|
[17:17] <activist> How can i use just TV screen? Thanks.
[17:18] <jameson777> TJ-: Anyway, could you please tell me, how to regenerate /etc/crypttab, what name to use, and what uuid from blkid?
[17:19] <TJ-> jameson777: the "cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab" and previous message really feel like the chroot /dev isn't quite right, but I cannot think how
[17:20] <tomreyn> qwebirc43287: so you're basically saying: all the linux distros and versions you tried take a long time to boot, right? what's your hardware?
[17:20] <Jackneill> tomreyn, install-info <- error encountered while processing that
[17:20] <TJ-> jameson777: none of the crypttab should need altering, as long as the block device with UUID=b183120b-9b99-4848-8f4c-60b263b6fe0c exists
[17:20] <tomreyn> Jackneill: i don't understand what you're telling me.
[17:20] <jameson777> TJ-: Warning is "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for ubuntu -"
[17:21] <jameson777> /dev/sdb: UUID="b183120b-9b99-4848-8f4c-60b263b6fe0c" TYPE="crypto_LUKS"
[17:21] <Jackneill> tomreyn, do-release-upgrade finished. but that an error
[17:21] <Guest3712> activist: usually settings->display, and there to choose mirroring displays, make the tv primary display and switch the other off
[17:21] <Jackneill> that errors were encountered while processing the install-info package
[17:21] <qwebirc43287> all but lubuntu 16.04...hardware is preety old, toshiba sattelite A300, 2GB ram, intel HD-something graphics...
[17:21] <jameson777> sdb_crypt UUID=b183120b-9b99-4848-8f4c-60b263b6fe0c none luks,discard
[17:22] <plongshot> If I move my pulic key into a newly created subdirectory will I lose access to that server the next time I try to connect?
[17:22] <TJ-> jameson777: right, nothing looks wrong there. The issue seems to be due to the fstab, and cryptsetup not being able to discover the root file-system, which is an LVM LV.
[17:23] <tomreyn> Jackneill: which error? please provide context, use a pastebin, pipe output into "nc termbin.com 9999" and post the url here or take a screenshot and post it to an image hosting site such as imgur.com and post the url here.
[17:23] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i wish there were more context
[17:23] <Jackneill> as well
[17:23] <TJ-> jameson777: the way cryptsetup works is, it looks at crypttab and fstab and tries to figure out if the root file-system has LUKS underneath it somewhere, and if so tries to find an entry for that LUKS layer in crypttab. It looks as if the initial search of fstab is failing
[17:24] <Jackneill> tomreyn, anyway updated to 19.04, noticed that grub menu now considerable higher resolutiuon. still the same purple screen after selecting 'ubuntu'.
[17:25] <tomreyn> Jackneill: this may be bug 1823004
[17:26] <Jackneill> 19.04 recovery does not work
[17:26] <tomreyn> Jackneill: doe snot work how?
[17:26] <Jackneill> tomreyn, as in purple screen with 2 lines of text: loading linux <kernel ver>, loading initial ramdisk ..., and hangs.
[17:27] <TJ-> Jackneill: tomreyn sounds like a nomodeset issue - kernel isn't taking over the framebuffer
[17:28] <tomreyn> Jackneill: can you access grub menu?
[17:28] <jameson777> Okay, well it's a mess, how to get encrypted installation to normal one, i think, that simple copy is not a solution?
.modeset=0 to kernal args?:)
[17:28] <Jackneill> tomreyn, yes i am in tghere now
[17:29] <tomreyn> Jackneill: do you have a "failsafe graphics" option there or in advanced?
[17:29] <Jackneill> tomreyn, no. i only have ubuntu. in advanced 2 kernel options (with their recovery counterparts)
[17:29] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes thanks
[17:29] <tomreyn> Jackneill: and the recovery option there gives you just those two purple lines?
[17:30] <Jackneill> tomreyn, yes.
[17:30] <tomreyn> Jackneill: and a default boot gives you the same?
[17:30] <Jackneill> tomreyn, yes except there are no 2 lines then.
[17:31] <tomreyn> Jackneill: on the grub main menu, press 'e' to edit the default boot entry.
[17:31] <Jackneill> tomreyn, im in there now
[17:31] <tomreyn> then look at the line starting "linux"
[17:31] <tomreyn> what are the last 3 words on this line?
[17:32] <Jackneill> tomreyn, quiet splash $vt_handoff
[17:32] <qwebirc43287> tomreyn   all versions but lubuntu 16.04...hardware is preety old, toshiba sattelite A300, 2GB ram, intel HD-something graphics...
[17:32] <tomreyn> Jackneill: and before that you have?
[17:33] <Guest3712> hint, long lines can be broken into several with \
[17:33] <Jackneill> linux /vmlinuz-..../ubntu--vg-root ro ...
[17:33] <Jackneill> og i mean root=...-root ro ...
[17:33] <Jackneill> oh*
[17:35] <tomreyn> Jackneill: try removing "quiet" and "splash" and add "nomodeset"
[17:35] <bionic> hello
[17:35] <bionic> runnin armbian on tinkerboard s
[17:35] <tomreyn> bionic: we only support ubuntu here, and this isn't ubuntu.
[17:36] <bionic> armbian ubuntu 18.04
[17:36] <isomari> greetings, I just completely removed connman "sudo spt purge connman" and activated NetworkManager with a differnet ip address,  but after a reboot my system is still configured with the ip from the  connman configuration. How can I remove all traces of connman and it's configuration files?
[17:36] <tomreyn> bionic: it may say "ubuntu" but it is modified, so we don't support it here. try ##linux
[17:36] <Jackneill> tomreyn, successfuly booted up to gdm, with high resolution
[17:37] <tomreyn> Jackneill: phew, i wasn't sure that would work.
[17:37] <Jackneill> tomreyn, how can i permamently add this to grub? /boot/grub/grub.conf? also wont a grub update regenerate/overwrite it?
[17:38] <bionic> @tomreyn might there be an official image for Asus tinkerboard
[17:38] <teward> bionic: armbian isn't Ubuntu, and there is not an official image for Tinkerboard
[17:39] <tomreyn> Jackneill: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub". but this should not be needed and you may want to only add it if this issue remains after you installed all pending updates.
[17:39] <Jackneill> tomreyn, then again in console? or can i use terminal now?
[17:39] <tomreyn> Jackneill: terminal should be fine for now
[17:40] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thanks for your help.
[17:40] <tomreyn> Jackneill: let's do this again:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[17:40] <Jackneill> ok
[17:40] <tomreyn> Jackneill: then this:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[17:40] <Jackneill> tomreyn, after pending updates or beforE?
[17:40] <tomreyn> Jackneill: up to you
[17:41] <tomreyn> after is fine
[17:42] <Jackneill> how can i upgrade kept back pkgs?
[17:42] <tomreyn> Jackneill: which commands were you running?
[17:43] <gambl0r3> how do i delete a path in $PATH?
[17:43] <jcotton> which shell?
[17:43] <Jackneill> tomreyn, sudo apt update, then upgrade.
[17:44] <gambl0r3> zshrc
[17:44] <tomreyn> Jackneill: use "sudo apt -f iunstall && sudo apt full-upgrade" instead
[17:44] <tomreyn> Jackneill: use "sudo apt -f install && sudo apt full-upgrade" instead
[17:44] <tomreyn> ^ typo fixed
[17:46] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/uysmw
[17:47] <tomreyn> Jackneill: looks good, how about the other one?
[17:49] <nightshift> my ubuntu machine is an intel processor affected by MDS vulnerability. I just ran an update on it, but either the patch isn't available, or I don't already have the right package installed, I'm leaning towards not having the right package. What package do I need to verify install of to get that patch?
[17:50] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/o2qw
[17:50] <Jackneill> run an autoremove then restart and see?
[17:51] <tomreyn> Jackneill: yes. i suggest you also run "ubuntu-support-status" and share the output before rebooting, but you can also do that afterwards
[17:51] <Bashing-om> nightshift: If it is new Intel hardware. the vulnerability is already patched. see: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microarch-Data-Sampling ; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MDS-Kernel-Fixes .
[17:52] <nightshift> Bashing-om, It's older than the 8th generation
[17:52] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/a2zb
[17:53] <nightshift> (actually, this one might be old enough to predate the problem)
[17:53] <Bashing-om> nightshift: Then you should have seen a intel-microcode and new kernels :)
[17:54] <tomreyn> Jackneill: you should investigate these, and remove any you don't strictly need, or setup apt repositories which provide an update path for them: "You have 33 packages (1.6%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded"
[17:54] <tomreyn> Jackneill: --show-unsupported lists the packages.
[17:54] <nightshift> I may NOT have intel-microcode installed (didn't get new kernels on this update either, but I think I got them last week)
[17:55] <tomreyn> Jackneill: if you'd like to clean up more, there is https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[17:55] <Jackneill> tomreyn, at least now i got the recorvery menu back, high res
[17:55] <nightshift> Bashing-om, is intel-microcode the full package name I need to check on?
[17:55] <tomreyn> Jackneill: very well. which graphics chipsets do you have there, do you know?
[17:56] <Jackneill> tomreyn, intel i5 8th gen. ahould be enough?
[17:57] <tomreyn> Jackneill: so only intels integrated graphics?
[17:57] <tomreyn> Jackneill: in other words: you don't have a dedicated graphics card?
[17:57] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thats right.
[17:58] <tomreyn> (or chip, soldered on, but outside the cpu)
[17:58] <Jackneill> yes.
[17:58] <qwebirc28710> Hi all, newbie to Linux. In Ubuntu terminal, if I am an administrator, howcome the prompt doesn't end with #? Struggling to find an answer
[17:58] <tomreyn> Jackneill: hmm then you shouldn't need nomodeset really
[17:58] <tomreyn> !sudo | qwebirc28710
[17:59] <Bashing-om> !info intel-microcode bionic
[18:00] <tomreyn> Jackneill: so are there still issues booting now?
[18:00] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i have a fresher cversion
[18:00] <Jackneill> 19.04.1 but othwrwise the same
[18:00] <nightshift> Thank you, I verified that it is installed
[18:00] <Jackneill> tomreyn, of course
[18:00] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: usually you're logged in as your user, so the shell ends with "$", if you're using the root shell for instance after doing "sudo -i" you'd get a "#"
[18:00] <jcotton> but you should get in the habit of using sudo
[18:01] <Jackneill> tomreyn, tghats strange rebooted again but now its fine
[18:01] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: it's better to just use sudo when you need to run commands as the admin though, and avoid root shells if you're new to stuff
[18:01] <Jackneill> will reboot again to try whether its deterministically right now. a minute ago boot was bad..
[18:01] <tomreyn> Jackneill: maybe this system needs a full power off and power on.
[18:01] <Bashing-om> qwebirc28710: In ubuntu the "root" account is locked, To become that admin level is the function of "sudo". See: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo .
[18:02] <Jackneill> tomreyn, when starting from grub it is bad. when i 'reboot'-ed from root shell (from recovery menu) it booted fine..
[18:02] <srji> someone with a dell xps13 developer laptop? my microsd card slot got broken after one use :(
[18:03] <Bashing-om> nightshift: ^^ what shows ' dpkg -l intel-microcode ' ?
[18:03] <tomreyn> Jackneill: when you select 'recovery' from grub, then "nomodeset" is automatically added, so apparently you need this for now.
[18:03] <tomreyn> Jackneill: a firmware upgrade may be a good idea. newer ubuntu versions initialize the graphical boot a little different, and not all
[18:03] <Jackneill> hm selecting recovery entry is bad too now
[18:03] <qwebirc28710> Thanks tomreyn, EriC^^, Bashing-om - truly appreciate your help!
[18:03] <tomreyn> ... firmwares are ready for that
[18:04] <nightshift> Bashing-om, it's the right version (for exact output I'll need a couple minutes, I've already logged out of that machine)
[18:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc28710: you're weclome.
[18:05] <nightshift> Bashing-om "ii  intel-microcod 3.20190514.0 amd64  Processor microcode firmware for"
[18:05] <Jackneill> tomreyn, cant event boot with nomodeset and recorvery now
[18:06] <Bashing-om> nightshift: What release version are you running, as we can also check that you have the latest kernel that is patched for that patched mico-code.
[18:06] <nightshift> Bashing-om, 18.04.2
[18:07] <tomreyn> Jackneill: what happens when you try?
[18:07] <qwebirc28710> While I'm here, I've been struggling for weeks to connect to another ubuntu pc on a different lan (trying to help my mom in a different city!). What needs to be installed on her side in order to control her desktop
[18:07] <Bashing-om> nightshift: ' uname -r ' >> "4.15.0-50-generic
[18:07] <Bashing-om> " ??
[18:07] <Jackneill> tomreyn, same hanging
[18:08] <nightshift> Bashing-om, yes, "GNU/Linux 4.15.0-50-generic x86_64" From the motd when I ssh in
[18:08] <qwebirc28710> Struggling to find a resource that actually works
[18:08] <Beduk_> Can I ask for help dual booting Ubuntu 18.04 LTS?
[18:10] <tomreyn> Jackneill: power off the system, remove battery for 10 seconds if you can, then long-press power button, then reconnect battery. then power on, access grub menu, then do what we did before again, then: press 'e' on the default kernel image, remove "quiet" and "splash", add "nomodeset".
[18:10] <Jackneill> i jave found a formware update from feb 14.
[18:10] <Jackneill> tomreyn, right
[18:11] <tomreyn> Jackneill: if installing the firmware upgrade is possible for you currently, then do it. you may also want to consider reinstalling soon, switching to uefi booting instead of bios booting which you seem to be doing now.
[18:12] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: ubuntu has remote desktop sharing by default
[18:12] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: the client is called remmina
[18:13] <EriC^^> search for "desktop sharing" on her pc and set the stuff up then connect with remmina
[18:13] <qwebirc28710> I simply cannot connect to their pc. Tried remmina, when I input their ip address, i can't connect regardless of protocol (is that the right word? rdp, vnc, ssh)
[18:14] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thank you.
[18:15] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: can you ssh?
[18:15] <tomreyn> qwebirc28710: 'protocol' is correct there, yes. you will need to make sure you can actually connect all the way into the remote computer. usually there will be at least a firewall with a need for port forwarding in between
[18:15] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: maybe their ip is a shared one, or they're behind a NAT
[18:16] <qwebirc28710> You guys are rockstars
[18:16] <qwebirc28710> Does that mean I need to set up port forwarding through the router?
[18:16] <qwebirc28710> or is there a way in Ubuntu
[18:17] <nightshift> qwebirc28710, it's something you'll likely need to do in the router. Really depends on her network setup, as well as whether she has a static or dynamic ip
[18:18] <tomreyn> qwebirc28710: you insitially said you wanted to connect to a differnet LAN, but your other description (connecting to mom, who is far away) makes me think there is this WAN called "Internet" in between.
[18:18] <qwebirc28710> Sorry I mean it is not a local network
[18:20] <nightshift> qwebirc28710, this is really more of a networking issue, I think. SSH is sufficient to do what you need to do, but, only if you can get to the computer through the internet
[18:20] <tomreyn> qwebirc28710: so it's probably more like this?
[18:20] <tomreyn> qwebirc28710's computer <- LAN -> qwebirc28710's gateway / router / firewall <- internet -> mom's gateway / router / firewall <- LAN -> mom's computer
[18:21] <Bashing-om> nightshift: Looks like you are all patched :)
[18:21] <tomreyn> Jackneill: you'Re welcome. let me know if you need anything else.
[18:22] <qwebirc52105> >JOIN
[18:22] <nightshift> Bashing-om, thank you!!! (now if only I could get my non-ubuntu machine patched, but, it looks like it's a couple patch versions behind on the kernel, and as far as I can tell, they're not working on it)
[18:22] <qwebirc52105> hi, after restarting laptop I open VM mchine and it asks me to install ubuntu again and all deleted?? why?
[18:23] <EriC^^> qwebirc52105: it sounds like the .iso file is still selected to be booted in the vm
[18:23] <qwebirc28710> Thanks tomreyn, nightshift - appreciate your immediate assistance - rockstars!
[18:23] <EriC^^> qwebirc28710: remove the ubuntu.iso from the vm
[18:23] <Bashing-om> nightshift: Ain't 'buntu wonderful ?
[18:23] <EriC^^> the live installer iso
[18:24] <qwebirc52105> Eric^^ what do you mean? there are already 2 machines i started before in the VM with ubuntu install, I just want to open them and when I try its like installation procees again
[18:24] <nightshift> Bashing-om, yes :)
[18:25] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: how did you install ubuntu? did you download the ubuntu .iso file from ubuntu.com and set your ubuntu VM up to boot off it?
[18:26] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn yes, now it seems it connected but not sure why it seemed like installation of ubuntu again
[18:26] <EriC^^> did you install in oem mode maybe
[18:26] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: the VM will probably be configured to always boot from the .iso file until you reconfigure the VM to not boot off the .iso anymore.
[18:28] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn how to do that? after installing ubuntu in a machine i just want to start it normally after restarting computer
[18:28] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: this really depends on which virtualization software you're using there.
[18:29] <compdoc> you have to learn to use the software you have
[18:29] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn virtualbox
[18:30] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: there is the #vbox channel here for help with virtualbox (this is not an ubuntu issue really). but maybe if we can solve it quickly we can do it here.
[18:30] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: shut down the ubuntu VM. then right-click on the ubuntu VM on the virtualbox main window.
[18:30] <tomreyn> ...and select "settings"
[18:30] <qwebirc52105> ok
[18:31] <tomreyn> click on "storage", then unter "controller: IDE" you see a cd icon
[18:31] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: does it say "empty" there or "ubuntu..."?
[18:32] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn it says empty and above there is a file .vhd
[18:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: okay, so it's a different issue. i suggest you seek support in #vbox then
[18:36] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn i downloaded sublime for linux, what command i type in terminal to install it?
[18:36] <lordcirth_> qwebirc52105, what file type is it?
[18:37] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: i don't know, this software is not available via apt. maybe a !snap is available.
[18:37] <jottr> I'm on ubuntu 19.04 server. How can I make netplan apply stick after reboot? Ever time I reboot the box, I have to rerun netplan apply
[18:37] <tomreyn> !server | jottr
[18:38] <lordcirth_> jottr, I'm actually dealing with that bug right now too. For some reason it only affects systems I PXE boot.
[18:38] <qwebirc52105> lordcirth .tar.bz2
[18:39] <leftyfb> jottr: try: sudo systemctl disable cloud-init. Then try your changes, apply and reboot
[18:39] <teb007est> don't have a usb flash drive or a cd but I want to update my linux machine with an iso images so I can start new again how can I start this process... Thanks
[18:39] <TJ-> lordcirth_: is the netplan-generator running at all?
[18:41] <tomreyn> teb007est: get a flash drive or other writable storage which can be fully deleted.
[18:41] <qwebirc52105> lordcirth i downloaded and open the file, whats the equivalent of .exe in linux to launch it?
[18:41] <tomreyn> teb007est: a rooted android phone would also work.
[18:41] <qwebirc52105> sublime is to edit go code
[18:42] <lordcirth_> qwebirc52105, you can use tar to extract it ( or right click in file manager and extract). But Sublime details aren't supported here.
[18:43] <teb007est> unetbootin works but it seems I can't install it on 19.04 why is this tomreyn:
[18:44] <dax> because the third-party PPA you're looking at doesn't have any packages in it newer than 18.04
[18:44] <teb007est> How can I install thous packages for 19.04
[18:45] <qwebirc52105> lordcirth is already extrated i can see files inside, but dont know which is the .exe equivalent in linux
[18:46] <EriC^^> teb007est: you could also use grub to load the .iso if you have a small partition to put it in
[18:46] <tomreyn> teb007est: usb-creator-gtk should work.
[18:48] <qwebirc52105> lordcirth is already extrated i can see files inside, but dont know which is the .exe equivalent in linux
[18:48] <qwebirc52105> i downloaded sublime and i can see it in list of applications why?
[18:51] <lauri_S> for linux I dont tink its required to have .exe endings for executables
[18:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: i think you should not blindly assume that the ways you're used to for installing software from other operating systems are the way it works on Ubuntu.
[18:51] <lauri_S> at least Ive done programming exercises where I just compile C++ code to a file, which doesnt have file ending
[18:51] <tomreyn> !apt | qwebirc52105
[18:51] <tomreyn> !snap | qwebirc52105
[18:52] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: it may be wise to just start with the software which comes with ubuntu initially, then, once you understand the basic concepts, start customizing it with additional software.
[18:53] <qwebirc52105> tomreyn i need sublime to edit goland code files
[18:53] <qwebirc52105> i downloaded sublime tomreyn now i dont know how to start it
[18:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc52105: check with their support, it's not supported here.
[18:55] <EriC^^> qwebirc52105: as tomreyn suggested, if you can use ubuntu packaged software you'll make life easier for you now and in the long run if you decide to remove it
[18:55] <ioria> qwebirc52105, from snap ?
[18:56] <tomreyn> this may make you happy, or destroy your computer, or something in between: https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text
[18:56] <EriC^^> !info sublime-text
[18:59] <kostkon> qwebirc52105, 'snap install sublime-text' to install it
[19:00] <ioria> qwebirc52105, if from tar.gz, it's just a binary and you have the .desktop file to copy in your ~/.local/share/applications
[19:01] <ioria> qwebirc52105, change the Exec line, obviuosly
[19:06] <Xard> nice; i did a partition resize operation and found out that the rsync can be also used quite easily to verify the data integrity comparing the backup and the drive with checksum and dry-run
[19:07] <teb007est> Ok I just placed a ISO in my grub with grml-rescueboot I rebooted my computer grub did not come up how do I boot into grub menu???
[19:08] <EriC^^> teb007est: hold shift
[19:08] <teb007est> ok thanks
[19:08] <EriC^^> after you first turn on the PC
[19:12] <qwebirc52105> kostkon it asks me to add command --classic, i write it afet sublime-tecxt?
[19:12] <kostkon> qwebirc52105, yes
[19:14] <AlexPortable> I get this error while installing a snap: main.go:154: description of sign's "k" is lowercase:
[19:14] <AlexPortable> main.go:154: description of install's "dangerous" is lowercase
[19:15] <AlexPortable> and something about a key, and telling me to use the default key, and there are no signatures so it can't be verified (--devmode implies this)
[19:15] <teb007est> Ok I do not understand I did everything right with grubrescue I placed the ISO in the file directory grub file and update the grub I seen the mini.iso image on there I pressed enter nothing happen its a linux iso file
[19:15] <teb007est> strange