[07:27] <Manna> is it possible to view my ntfs hd partion from ubuntu live cd?
[07:27] <ikonia> Manna: just mount it - it will work
[07:27] <wim> hi, back again after X screw up
[07:28] <tom47> andre i use Gjots or others use tomboy
[07:28] <WiseOdd> ikonia: ...yes... that would be it :)
[07:28] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x you still got acces to the command line with wich you entered the install -f?
[07:28] <WiseOdd> ikonia: those often come 2gether :)
[07:28] <Manna> Hmm, lemme look. I want to get into linux but my wlan card is never detected.
[07:28] <ikonia> WiseOdd: why do you think there is hardware issues ?
[07:28] <wim> I can't disable composite extensions as it causes X to hang
[07:28] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:  the os does not boot.  it freezes before the graphical login screen
[07:29] <WiseOdd> got several BSOD on the win install, and theres general unstability...
[07:29] <ikonia> WiseOdd: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:29] <jussi01> so anyone know how to fix my sopcast?
[07:29] <ecastro> is that hard what i am asking?
[07:30] <WiseOdd> ikonia: i know, but ubuntu provides stable platform for testing hw problems...
[07:30] <sdac_1x> i don't understand how installing (legitimate software..not a virus) can completely damage an operating system.
[07:30] <ikonia> WiseOdd: not if you have hardware problems it doesn't
[07:30] <sdac_1x> are there any ways to recover the installation and configuration
[07:30] <ikonia> WiseOdd: there are livecd's out there for hardware testing
[07:30] <WiseOdd> ikonia: got some memmory disparity errors, whatever that means...
[07:30] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x, and you dont see the menu of grub at boot?
[07:30] <ikonia> WiseOdd: use memtest
[07:30] <WiseOdd> ikonia: more stable than windows, thats for sure...
[07:30] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:  I do.
[07:30] <ikonia> WiseOdd: not at all
[07:31] <jrib> sdac_1x: because the debs were not intended for this OS.  You can try to revert the packages that you installed
[07:31] <Akuma_> anyone knows of a list of changes in feisty? changelogs.ubuntu.com isn't fun to read
[07:31] <skip> i've found a terrible bug! everytime when i try to send somebody a file with gaim, which is bigger than 5mb, gaim ends with the message, after half of the time: core dumped gaim; can anybody help me ?
[07:31] <WiseOdd> ikonia: !memtest
[07:31] <ecastro> HEY! NO BODY?!
[07:31] <WiseOdd> ikoia: sry :)
[07:31] <ikonia> WiseOdd: I know about memtest
[07:31] <ikonia> no problem
[07:31] <jrib> ecastro: I have one
[07:31] <WiseOdd> !memtest
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <ikonia> WiseOdd: memtest is nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:32] <skip> has anyone an idea ?
[07:32] <sdac_1x> jrib:  can you tell me how to do that without bieng able to login to the system ?  will "recovery mode" help.  there is such a line in my grub menu
[07:32] <norf-ubu> !memtest64
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <skip> about my problem ?
[07:32] <norf-ubu> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:32] <ecastro> please somebody help me out
[07:32] <jrib> sdac_1x: yes, if that works it will give you a root prompt
[07:32] <LjL> ikonia: not entirely true, memtest is installed by default and runnable from the GRUB menu
[07:32] <skip> i've found a terrible bug! everytime when i try to send somebody a file with gaim, which is bigger than 5mb, gaim ends with the message, after half of the time: core dumped gaim; can anybody help me ?
[07:32] <ikonia> LjL: yes, but its nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:32] <LjL> memtest86+
[07:32] <LjL> !memtest86+
[07:32] <ikonia> its just on the  livecd
[07:32] <ubotu> memtest86+: thorough real-mode memory tester. In component main, is standard. Version 1.65-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 59 kB, installed size 200 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:32] <sdac_1x> jrib> what do i do from there
[07:33] <LjL> ikonia: not just on the live cd, it's also an a final installation
[07:33] <jrib> sdac_1x: what exactly did you install
[07:33] <LjL> ikonia: anyway i wasn't following the discussion, just got highlighted by the bot
[07:33] <ikonia> ok - but its not part of / nor supported by ubuntu
[07:33] <ikonia> which is what I was trying to say
[07:33] <norf-ubu> ty LjL
[07:33] <LjL> ikonia: it is most definitely supported..
[07:33] <alecjw> hi. i've got some .bin firmware files for a wireless card. what do i do with them?
[07:33] <ikonia> LjL: is it ?
[07:33] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x, boo the machine and press Ctrl+Alt+F2
[07:33] <LjL> ikonia: it's in main and it's installed by default, so it's by all means a core part of ubuntu
[07:33] <WiseOdd> ikonia: thx for da help!
[07:33] <LjL> ikonia: "in component main is standard" does quite mean it's 100% supported
[07:33] <ikonia> LjL: bad chose of words, ubuntu won't help you debug the output
[07:33] <ikonia> eg: the users can't support the errors
[07:34] <sdac_1x> jrib:  i think it was called libconfig-config... it was a dependecy for libfont1
[07:34] <eodchop> Hello could someone help me get a broadcom wireless card running. I have tried bcmfwxx-cutter, ndiswrapper. Nothing is working.
[07:34] <unimatrix9> thats crtl+alt hold it down and press F2
[07:34] <jrib> sdac_1x: are you familiar with using apt-get and/or dpkg on the command line?
[07:34] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:  before the grub menu
[07:34] <linuxgoober> does anyone know of a utility similar to fraps for linux?
[07:34] <LjL> ikonia: uhm, why do you say that? i think an error dump from memtest is totally fine here, if that's what you mean.  i'm not sure i'd be able to interpret it *myself*, but that doesn't mean anything
[07:35] <sdac_1x> jrib:  not really.  i just copy and paste commands from online guides to install stuff
[07:35] <wim> rm * -R
[07:35] <tom47> ecastro i doo not know what your needs are but does the command codepage serve any use to you ..... man codepage
[07:35] <ikonia> LjL: I think we differ in opinions here, I wouldn't say debugingg hardware output was part of ubuntu supports requirements
[07:35] <ikonia> but its fine to differ
[07:35] <jrib> sdac_1x: ok, if I send you a guide located on a web page you would be able to read it on the current computer right?
[07:35] <Manna> disk mounter seems to want to only mount my empty floppy drive. does anyone know how to make it mount my NTFS partitioned drive?
[07:36] <sdac_1x> jrib:  yes currently booted in windows
[07:36] <Hozer> I'm using Ubuntu server release 6.10 and have had a hell of a time getting php sessions to work... always get "Call to undefined function session_id() " on php pages that use sessions... has anyone seen this and beaten it?
[07:36] <jrib> !apt | sdac_1x
[07:36] <ubotu> sdac_1x: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:36] <Manna> Ubuntu detects it, but doesn't mount it
[07:36] <ikonia> Manna: mount /dev/$device /$mount_point
[07:36] <alecjw> i've got some .bin firmware files for a wireless card. what do i do with them? do they live in /lib/firmware?
[07:37] <Manna> ikonia: $ is a variable, correct? so change it?
[07:37] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:  what did you say Ctrl-Alt-F2 does ?
[07:37] <ikonia> alecjw: if udev is to load them, they must be in the correct please
[07:37] <LjL> ikonia, i think you find this channel a bit more special-purpose than it really is. of course, telling you to open your case, reseat the RAM etc may be a bit offtopic, but getting a memtest output from somebody to ascertain whether they have RAM problems or software problems is quite fine
[07:37] <ikonia> manncorrect
[07:37] <ecastro> i want to know which codepage my filesystem is using! that's what i want
[07:37] <ikonia> Manna:  correct
[07:37] <jrib> sdac_1x: the important things you need are (FOO is a package name):  apt-cache policy FOO   this tells you info about what is currently installed and available.  Then   apt-get install FOO=VERSION   will install version VERSION of FOO.  This should work ok as long as you have the original sources.list (no outside repositories)
[07:37] <ikonia> LjL: I agree on that
[07:37] <alecjw> ikonia: do you know where that right place might be?
[07:37] <Manna> ikonia: may I ask what would be a  normal value for $mount_point?
[07:37] <mindstate> Manna: try ntfs-3g
[07:37] <unimatrix9> kick you back on tty2, wich is the bash shell
[07:37] <ikonia> Manna: user preference
[07:38] <ikonia> mindstate: thats dangerous
[07:38] <alecjw> ikonia: because i just got 3 .bin files with no readme
[07:38] <Manna> well, I'm new to this =\
[07:38] <ikonia> alecjw: depends on your hardware, and if udev supports he loading of firmware for it
[07:38] <mindstate> ikonia: how so?
[07:38] <tom47> Manna check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[07:38] <sdac_1x> jrib: I added things to sources.list but i made a backup i think that i can restore.
[07:38] <unimatrix9> but i guess an reinstall would be better
[07:38] <ikonia> mindstate: write support is still beta
[07:38] <Manna> Thanks, tom47
[07:38] <mindstate> ikonia: ah, i didnt know that
[07:39] <viator> does anyone have the democracy player working properly
[07:39] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x , at boot you dont get the option of save mode ubuntu?
[07:39] <Manna> tom47: will this work on Ubuntu live CD?
[07:39] <Chest> guys, I've upgraded to edgy, but my nvidia drivers are barfing, probably due to the new kernel.  How can I reconfigure them properly?
[07:39] <alecjw> ikonia: so do you think /lib/firmware might be worth a try?
[07:39] <ikonia> alecjw: %100
[07:39] <viator> it says dependency not satifiable libatk1.0-1
[07:39] <Bnirkow> hello
[07:39] <viator> but  i have libatk1.0-1
[07:39] <alecjw> thanks, ikonia
[07:39] <viator> installed
[07:39] <andre> tom47: what is tomboy/gjots?
[07:39] <Bnirkow> what program are good to brun dvd`s??
[07:40] <sdac_1x> jrib: no in grub menu i get ubuntu recovery mode is that what you mean
[07:40] <viator> ?
[07:40] <Bnirkow> burn*
[07:40] <unimatrix9> yes
[07:40] <MarcN> I'm trying to get my GPS via serial working, but the kernel complains about LSR safety check engaged for /dev/ttyS0.  Ideas?
[07:40] <viator> whats up with that??
[07:40] <wim> my Xorg.0.log says: fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found
[07:40] <unimatrix9> can you boot into that option!
[07:40] <sdac_1x> jrib: i have xubuntu edgy btw
[07:40] <wim> In my device section it's BusID PCI:5:0:0
[07:40] <Manna> later all, ty
[07:40] <tom47> Manna sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:40] <tom47> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[07:40] <jrib> sdac_1x: right, "recovery mode" is what you want.  *ubuntu are all the same underneath
[07:41] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[07:41] <Bobbix> hi friends
[07:41] <wim> should I change my xorg.conf to say PCI:5:0:1 ?
[07:41] <turbolover> !dapper drake
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper drake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <LjL> !dapper
[07:41] <Bobbix> anyone have used wpa_gui ????
[07:41] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[07:41] <sdac_1x> jrib:ok so i go into recovery mode and login as root. then what do i do
[07:41] <turbolover> what version kernel does it use
[07:41] <Bnirkow> LjL; what pogram are good to burn dvd`s?
[07:41] <Pelo> I want to run  fsck on /dev/hda,  and I keep getting an error message,  I am pretty sure it's just because I don'T have the correct syntax,  can someone supply it for me
[07:41] <Bnirkow> LjL: program*
[07:41] <apokryphos> !burn
[07:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:42] <viator> whats the point of making packages fir ubuntu
[07:42] <Pelo> Bnirkow,  devede
[07:42] <tom47> andre you were saying you needed to write stuff down ... i personally use a package called Gjots (mainly because i no longer wish to rely on mono based applicatiosn) but if you do not have that concern then tomboy is every bit as good or better
[07:42] <viator> when aid packages fail to install
[07:42] <Bnirkow> time to test :>
[07:42] <jrib> sdac_1x: you find the name of the package that you installed that caused these problems.  Then you replace the currently installed version of the package with the one in the ubuntu repositories
[07:42] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x  what did you do when it broke?
[07:42] <Bobbix> hi anyone have a router wifi configured with wpa2 aes ??????????????????
[07:42] <andre> tom47: thanks
[07:42] <jrib> viator: "aid packages"?
[07:42] <andre> tom47: cheers
[07:42] <viator> said*
[07:42] <Bnirkow> Pelo: i can find it by synaptic
[07:43] <Bnirkow> Pelo: can`t
[07:43] <jrib> viator: then there's no point I guess
[07:43] <TTT_Travis> ok I found a modeline for my monitor, added it to the config and when I startx I still get this
[07:43] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:   i ran sudo apt-get install -f.  it started removing hundereds of packages until the desktop froze.
[07:43] <TTT_Travis> http://pastebin.com/868843
[07:43] <TTT_Travis> where is it finding that modeline from?
[07:43] <NaPsTeR_> i installed programs but they dont show up in my menu...whefre can i find them?
[07:43] <viator> debian has the democreacy player in the repos
[07:43] <Pelo> Bnirkow,  try gnomefiles ,    menu > system > about gnome : software ,  browse your way to the rigth place
[07:43] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9:  i ran the command becos the debian package manager told me to
[07:43] <viator> so it should end up in ubuntus
[07:43] <sivik> bind servers like like a pain in the but
[07:43] <sivik> butt*
[07:43] <jrib> viator: if package got removed then after you do what I said above, make sure you install the "xubuntu-desktop" package as well
[07:44] <jrib> sdac_1x: if package got removed then after you do what I said above, make sure you install the "xubuntu-desktop" package as well
[07:44] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x  i think it removed your xfce desktop, try to do recovery mode first, see if it works any how, then come back with the good or bad news..
[07:44] <viator> xubuntu?
[07:44] <DonLemmi> Hi, is there no package for bash completion in ubuntu?
[07:44] <viator> huh
[07:44] <NaPsTeR_> can any1 help me?
[07:44] <viator> i think you are mixing my posts
[07:45] <viator> with someone elses
[07:45] <sdac_1x> jrib: ok. did you post the guide you mentioned btw.. i might've missed it
[07:45] <Pelo> NaPsTeR_,  not without specifics
[07:45] <jrib> viator: it is in ubuntu's.  Ignore what i just said, I sent it to the wrong name :)  (look at the next line)
[07:45] <Bnirkow> Pelo: thanks
[07:45] <Pelo> np
[07:45] <viator> im getting dependency error
[07:45] <jrib> !apt | sdac_1x
[07:45] <ubotu> sdac_1x: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:45] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x if it fails you need to reinstall, lesson learned...the hard way
[07:45] <jrib> viator: pastebin your error as well as your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <Pelo> viator,  then install the right dependency
[07:45] <viator> but i have the dependency installed
[07:45] <viator> heh
[07:45] <linuxgoober> linuxgoober
[07:45] <NaPsTeR_> i installed some programs but they not showing up in my menu...where can i find them?
[07:45] <Pelo> viator,  try installing the dev ones
[07:45] <CoRnJuLiOx> can someone help? i'm trying to play .wmvs via mplayer-plugin in epiphany, and the video doesn't work, but theres sound.
[07:46] <viator> got them too
[07:46] <Pelo> NaPsTeR_,  type the prog name in the terminal
[07:46] <jrib> NaPsTeR_: what programs are you looking for?  You can try 'killall gnome-panel' to force the menu to restart
[07:46] <jrib> CoRnJuLiOx: do you have w32codecs?
[07:46] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9: so from now on i should install even legitimate debian packages.  isnt ubuntu a debian based system ?
[07:46] <NaPsTeR_> how do i do that?
[07:46] <CoRnJuLiOx> jrib: not sure
[07:46] <jrib> CoRnJuLiOx: you need them
[07:46] <jrib> !w32codecs | CoRnJuLiOx
[07:46] <ubotu> CoRnJuLiOx: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:46] <CoRnJuLiOx> jrib: sometimes .wmvs play, other times they don't
[07:46] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: its annoying but it does happen ..... usually to simply rn the program you can use Alt F2 and type in the name of the program ... and for more permanet usefulness you can use the menu editor to add it yourself
[07:46] <viator> ill just do apt-get install libatk* lol
[07:46] <Sorinello> Hello. If i want to reinstall Ubuntu, and i enter live cd, partition editor, and erase the 3 partitions .. primary, extended and swap, using latgest contigous free space, it it possible that ubuntu can read from the deleted zone, and use the previous settings ?
[07:47] <viator> see what happens
[07:47] <jrib> NaPsTeR_: ALT-f2 then enter the command
[07:47] <Cryoniq> !ntfs
[07:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:47] <unimatrix9> sdac_1x its debian based, but uses different repositories and conf
[07:47] <viator> nope
[07:47] <unimatrix9> so you really need the ubuntu repositories
[07:47] <viator> that didnt work
[07:48] <sdac_1x> unimatrix9: so if i need to get something that is newer than in repository.  is it safer to get source code and compile instead ?
[07:49] <ed__> hi
[07:50] <unimatrix9> yes thats an other option...
[07:51] <unimatrix9> first get your system up and running again, worrie about the rest later
[07:51] <cmweb> what is frs.joomla_1_0.1_0_9
[07:51] <NaPsTeR_> i cant get lmms 2 run. wat do i do?
[07:51] <Pelo> NaPsTeR_,  look in the menu under  application > accessories >  toward the bottom ,  terminal,   type the program name in there
[07:51] <andre> hello again all
[07:51] <andre> tom47:  I've got another question for you if you don't mind?
[07:51] <viator> jrib ok i tried it from the cli and got alot more errors than from the gui
[07:51] <viator> heres the paste bin
[07:52] <Cryoniq> Is it possible to mount an NTFS partition and have it writeable at all, or is it only possible to read?
[07:52] <troll> ciao
[07:52] <NaPsTeR_> i tried its not working
[07:52] <troll> mi ridici il link ita?
[07:52] <cmweb> omg wrong room
[07:52] <Bnirkow> Pelo: i can`t find "MEncoder".. on gnomefiles are`nt this file
[07:52] <tom47> andre ask and i will tell you if i mind ;-)
[07:52] <sdac_1x> jrib:  just to double check.  i remove the offending package..install repos version of package...then restart.  no other stuff in between or after ?
[07:52] <Sorinello> Hello. If i want to reinstall Ubuntu, and i enter live cd, partition editor, and erase the 3 partitions .. primary, extended and swap, using latgest contigous free space, it it possible that ubuntu can read from the deleted zone, and use the previous settings ?
[07:52] <viator> http://www.pastebin.ca/330232
[07:53] <andre> tom47: hehe ok, when on the console I can easily edit files I dont' have permission for with sudo
[07:53] <jrib> sdac_1x: it's better to install and request the specific version you want.  After you get the ubuntu version installed, install the ubuntu-desktop package too
[07:53] <NaPsTeR_> so how can i get lmms 2 run?
[07:53] <rohan__> hey all
[07:53] <andre> tom47:  but in gui mode I cannot.. any ideas on how I can edit files I don't have permission for?
[07:53] <rohan__> where can i get cool skins 4 bmp?
[07:53] <jrib> sdac_1x: the important things you need are (FOO is a package name):  apt-cache policy FOO   this tells you info about what is currently installed and available.  Then   apt-get install FOO=VERSION   will install version VERSION of FOO.  This should work ok as long as you have the original sources.list (no outside repositories)
[07:54] <tom47> andre so using sudo you can easily edit files is that what you mean?
[07:54] <sdac_1x> ok thanks jrib and unimatrix9.  hopefully ill get my system back.
[07:54] <NixerX> Anyone crafty with mailserver setups?
[07:55] <Cryoniq> hmm.. there seem to be sold software for linux that can handle to read AND write NTFS partitions.. anyone tried that?
[07:55] <Harkins> When I turn on and off "Enable Wireless" in the NetworkManager applet, is it actually turning on and off my wifi card? I'd like to know for battery life.
[07:55] <andre> tom47:  yup like for example I'm running apache but I cannot edit the files in /var/www unless I access them through console by typing in the root password using sudo
[07:55] <wim> anyone wanna help me out with DRI and ATI X800?
[07:56] <tom47> andre do you know about permissions?
[07:56] <andre> tom47:  I'd like to do this through gui instead but I don't knwo how to let linux know I've got permission
[07:56] <andre> tom47: yes and no
[07:56] <Cryoniq> hmm as well as free software solutions doing that also..
[07:56] <wim> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found
[07:56] <tom47> you can us the gksudo command to run gui apps as superuser/
[07:56] <wim> any clues?
[07:57] <wim> Xorg.conf says PCI 5:0:0
[07:57] <andre> tom47: gksudo eh?
[07:57] <wim> Changing it in Xorg.conf crashes X
[07:57] <Cryoniq> Allright.. anyone? NTFS under Linux that does write also.. tell me your secrets on success :P
[07:57] <tom47> andre eg gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:57] <variant> Cryoniq: yeah thre are multiple solutions for linux
[07:57] <andre> tom47: ok yes well that's what I'm trying to avoid
[07:57] <Bobbix> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no man in the world know how configure WPA2-PSK and AES
[07:58] <Bnirkow> how to add in gnomebaker, an limiter to 1,4GB disks??
[07:58] <variant> Cryoniq: you used to have to use captive with the windows driver but now you can use ntfs-ng for FUSE
[07:58] <andre> for example I want to delete a bunch of files...  its a lot simpler in gui than command line
[07:58] <Cryoniq> variant: :) Anyone that spring to mind that is the most popular of them? =)
[07:58] <sivik> andre: if their all the same types, its really easy in cli
[07:58] <wim> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found ...does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:58] <pbureau> Bobbix- easy get wpa_supplicant and configure it.. I sue it
[07:58] <Cryoniq> ok... sounds good :)
[07:58] <xtknight> the secure (from dcc exploits) server was port 8001 right?
[07:58] <pbureau> s/sue/use
[07:58] <variant> Cryoniq: I haven't had to use ntfs for years thank god but when i did it was captive, that was flawless
[07:58] <Bobbix>  pbureau easy ?
[07:58] <andre> sivik: cli?
[07:58] <Bobbix> whant to try ?
[07:58] <apokryphos> xtknight: yes
[07:58] <variant> Cryoniq: I have heard that ntfs-NG is good
[07:58] <variant> !fust
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> xtknight: yes
[07:58] <variant> !fuse
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fust - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:59] <tom47> the idea is to segregate administrative functions away from user functions andre ..... whilst it may seem inconvenient it safe
[07:59] <sivik> andre: command line
[07:59] <Bobbix>  pbureau i've configured all thath he need but no way
[07:59] <variant> !ntfs-ng
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <sivik> andre: command line interface = cli
[07:59] <apokryphos> variant: you can /msg the bot
[07:59] <xtknight> !ntfs-3g | variant
[07:59] <ubotu> variant: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:59] <NaPsTeR_> does anyone have lmms?
[07:59] <pbureau> Bobbix- I though so... install wpa_supplicant and locate wpa_wupplicant look at the examples and make a wpa_supplicant.conf in your /etc/
[07:59] <xtknight> !fuse | variant
[07:59] <ubotu> variant: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:59] <Bobbix>  pbureau  i've configured all but wpa_supplicant is malfuntioning
[07:59] <Cryoniq> variant: =) I have 2x200 gig of video material so I rather not repartion and format them when I now migrated from windows :P
[07:59] <variant> xtknight: yeah i typed that like 3 lines before you
[07:59] <Bobbix> i've configure wpa_supplicant .conf
[07:59] <wim> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found ...does anyone know how to fix this? Anyone seen this before? Please give me a hand here...
[08:00] <xtknight> variant, ahh ;)
[08:00] <Bobbix> i've starder wpa_supplicant daemon
[08:00] <Bobbix> but not don't work at all
[08:00] <bXi> wim thats for your secondary display i think
[08:00] <variant> Cryoniq: i see.. I would use captive as it sounds like you don't have any backups of that material
[08:00] <variant> !captive
[08:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:00] <variant> pff
[08:00] <Cryoniq> (and all of my precious anime is on them. I must have my daily doze of anime! :D)
[08:00] <andre> tom47: tx
[08:00] <Bobbix> pelase no man in the worl know how configure WPA2-PSK and AES on Ubuntu using WPA_SUPPLICANT ???
[08:00] <wim> bXi - thanks for your reply mate...so would this normally show up in Xorg.0.log?
[08:02] <variant> Cryoniq: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:02] <Pirate-king> hello again
[08:02] <xtknight> is the code for ntfs writing 64-bit safe yet?
[08:02] <wim> bxi: further down it reads:
[08:02] <corevette> my ati card just stopped working for some reason
[08:02] <wim> (II) fglrx(0): Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[08:02] <wim> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
[08:02] <xtknight> !pastebin  | wim
[08:02] <ubotu> wim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <NaPsTeR_> can any1 help me with lmms?
[08:02] <ab> ll
[08:03] <wim> huh?
[08:03] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: am installing it to check it out with you
[08:03] <wim> just posting 8 lines
[08:03] <piranesi> anyone who can give me a web-site or repository with beryl 0.1.3 or beryl 0.1.4 ???
[08:03] <ab> what kind of ATI CARD
[08:03] <mindstate> !videoplayer
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videoplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <Pirate-king> can ayone direct me on how to download podcasts and put on ipod?
[08:03] <variant> Cryoniq: looks like captive and fuse are one and the same (for your needs at least)
[08:03] <xtknight> wim, it starts lagging irc after about 3 lines,  just use pastebin next time :)
[08:04] <xtknight> piranesi, check with #beryl
[08:04] <wim> ok xt - any idea to get my ATI stuff working with 3D enabled? ;-)
[08:04] <bXi> wim i'm currently trying to get my ati card to work as well
[08:04] <piranesi> tnx xtknight
[08:04] <NaPsTeR_> iv installed it just cant find it on my comp
[08:04] <ab> WHAT KIND OF ATI CARD
[08:04] <turbolover> are the mesa drivers slow?
[08:04] <wim> bXi - ah ok
[08:04] <turbolover> i have a radeon 9200 se
[08:04] <viator> this package is SUPPOSEDLY built for dapper
[08:04] <unimatrix9> rohan_ go to winamp.com and download classic skins
[08:04] <xtknight> turbolover, mesa is reference GL, software rendered by the CPU
[08:04] <bXi> i've noticed 2 entries in lspci tho
[08:04] <wim> Mesa sucks - I have an ATI X800 GTO
[08:04] <viator> but it obviously is not
[08:04] <ab> which ubuntu u runnin
[08:04] <xtknight> wim, it looks like youre using the fglrx.  maybe you are missing dri/glx libs
[08:04] <bXi> 1 saying secondary
[08:04] <wim> Supported by the driver I've got
[08:04] <Okiesmokie> Anyone here think they can help me with my ethernet problem?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347264
[08:05] <ab> r u using stock drivers
[08:05] <jrib> viator: why aren't you using the repositories
[08:05] <turbolover> xtknight: ah, no wonder everything is slow
[08:05] <jaybe> hi, i have a problem with gnome-breakout on edubuntu 6.10
[08:05] <jaybe>  when I try to start gnome-breakout, I only receive the message:
[08:05] <jaybe>  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[08:05] <jaybe>    serial 552 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0
[08:05] <jaybe>  Does anybody know the reason for this or a solution?
[08:05] <jaybe>  I've search launchpad but had no success
[08:05] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: did you try typing lmms into the alt f2 window?
[08:05] <viator> it isnt in the repos
[08:05] <viator> not in mine
[08:05] <turbolover> xtknight: im trying to get it using radeon drivers
[08:05] <jrib> viator: oh i see.  It is in the edgy repos
[08:05] <NaPsTeR_> yes
[08:05] <Sinister-Ghost> yes
[08:05] <turbolover> xtknight:  so ya know, my X wont be sluggish
[08:05] <xtknight> turbolover, hmm.  what video card model?
[08:05] <ab> go download from ati site
[08:05] <viator> ugh
[08:05] <Sinister-Ghost> ok
[08:05] <NaPsTeR_> didnt work but it is installed
[08:05] <turbolover> xtknight:  radeon 9200 se 128mb pci
[08:05] <Sinister-Ghost> Chill
[08:05] <ab> it will solve all your problems
[08:05] <Sinister-Ghost> Yes
[08:06] <xtknight> turbolover, i dont know if that will work with DRI and the open source drivers.  you might need the binary blobs
[08:06] <jrib> viator: back in dapper, I installed democracy player fine when I downloaded the deb on the democracy player site
[08:06] <tom47> ok open a terminal window and type lmms there
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Yeh
[08:06] <viator> yeah i  did
[08:06] <wim> I got the libs: libfglrx
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> For sure!
[08:06] <variant> turbolover: your better off using hte included driver
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Yes
[08:06] <xtknight> wim, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so   does that exist?
[08:06] <viator> and all the depends seem to be pegged at edgy
[08:06] <darwinawards> wow, kubuntu is pretty looking... not like ubuntu
[08:06] <viator> now
[08:06] <ab> no
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> It
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> No
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Be
[08:06] <viator> so i have to use pinning?
[08:06] <ab> kubuntu is horrible
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Yes
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Ofcours
[08:06] <ab> generic
[08:06] <corevette> how come my ati card stopped working?
[08:06] <xtknight> what the?
[08:06] <D7k> darwinawards: I feel the opposite
[08:06] <darwinawards> ab: lol
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Pee on it
[08:06] <viator> yuck
[08:06] <Li`lEndian> how do i enable the `edit filename` command to automatically open the file with nano?
[08:06] <wim> first thing where it looks to go wrong according to xorg log: (EE) fglrx(0): [pcie]  Failed to gather memory of size 131072Kb for PCIe. Error (-1007)
[08:06] <jrib> viator: you did what?
[08:06] <turbolover> xtknight: crud, and what is that? i tried using fglrx but that didnt do anything, im just sick of my systems sluggish performance
[08:06] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: ok open a terminal window and type lmms there
[08:06] <variant> darwinawards, ab, that is whats known as a point of view..
[08:06] <Sinister-Ghost> Yeh
[08:07] <darwinawards> D7k: meh - I don't like the gnome theme, looks dated
[08:07] <viator> i didnt do anything yet
[08:07] <obstfliege> HELP ! I installed this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52027 in System->Options->Theme Now the Taskbar an everything disapears ...
[08:07] <Sinister-Ghost> I know what you did last winter ...
[08:07] <darwinawards> of course, this is just a first impression (live cd...)
[08:07] <viator> i just grabbed the .deb
[08:07] <xtknight> wim, could you paste the whole log (on pastebin please)
[08:07] <variant> Li`lEndian: "gnome-terminal -e nano -w" is the command you want to add
[08:07] <ab> enable sideport memory fully
[08:07] <xtknight> turbolover, binary blob=fglrx ;).  thats what we call it because there's no source code for it.
[08:07] <ab> from bios
[08:07] <viator> and it doesnt want to install because all the depnedencies
[08:07] <Ki-Chi-Mi> I was on here a few nights ago about my wireless card, i ot it installed but now it connects to my wireless network then will disconnect and rfefuse to connect, i dont know what the make is but the model number is PANWL2203 and it has a ZyDAS chipset
[08:07] <Li`lEndian> for now, all it says is 'unknown mime-type'.
[08:07] <wim> xtnight - ok - i'll try thanls
[08:07] <viator> seem to be edgy version
[08:07] <viator> s
[08:07] <xtknight> turbolover, and by 'didnt do anything', do you mean it did not operate or it did not fix the sluggish problem?  did you recall adding DRI or GLX to extensions?
[08:07] <variant> Li`lEndian: did you see what i said?
[08:08] <darwinawards> turbolover: careful with fglrx it doesn't always work right
[08:08] <willys_noesta> I'm on dapper how can I add mp3 support to amarok?? (NOTE: libxine-extracodecs and xine-ectras seems to not be on my repos tough i added the universe and multiverse repos)
[08:08] <Li`lEndian> variant: on a Virtual terminal?
[08:08] <variant> Li`lEndian: ah sorry i miss understood
[08:08] <NaPsTeR_> i tried that
[08:08] <NaPsTeR_> it also never worked
[08:08] <Li`lEndian> no probs. i think i've got to export some path.
[08:08] <jrib> viator: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/democracy/linux/ubuntu/ follow https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/wiki/LinuxNotes.  That version worked fine for me, I don't know about the more recent one
[08:09] <turbolover> well here is what i did: i followed directions on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[08:09] <wim> xt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3128/
[08:09] <jrib> viator: or just compile from source if you really need the latest one and their package is buggy
[08:09] <variant> Li`lEndian: it tells you in man edit
[08:09] <xtknight> turbolover, are you using the fglrx module at the moment?
[08:09] <ademan> is there any linux version that i could fit on a thumb drive with a windows based virtual machine?  (i'm tired of using windows at school)
[08:09] <darwinawards> willys_noesta: you don't have libxine-extracodecs? did you do an apt-get update?
[08:09] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: ok i installed it here and it does work here ..... please use synaptic and check that it says its installed
[08:09] <Li`lEndian> don't know which one- think its like edit = nano $1 && EXPORT edit (?)..
[08:09] <Li`lEndian> oh, ok
[08:09] <Li`lEndian> didnt know there'd be a man for edit
[08:09] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: as far as I can remember yes... but let me check to be sure
[08:09] <turbolover> xtknight: i put that in as my driver and did an apt-get install, restarted X
[08:09] <variant> ademan: yeah, any version.. the size of the thumb drive is what matters
[08:09] <turbolover> i didnt install restricted drivers because i didnt get the file name right though
[08:10] <xtknight> wim, youll have to type out my whole name as that's the only way i get alerted...looking at your log now
[08:10] <turbolover> thought they would already be isntalled
[08:10] <NaPsTeR_> i couldnt  find it in synaptic]
[08:10] <turbolover> err resitrcted modules i mean
[08:10] <mindstate> ademan: Damn Small Linux
[08:10] <Ki-Chi-Mi> @ademan: Google "Slax"
[08:10] <obstfliege>  I installed this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52027 in System->Options->Theme Now the Taskbar an everything disapears ...
[08:10] <ademan> variant, heh, i guess i more meant a reasonably sized one
[08:10] <sorl> is there some "base-config" to run on a debootstrapped ubuntu?
[08:10] <sorl> cant find any...
[08:10] <obstfliege> can someone hel me
[08:10] <obstfliege> ?
[08:10] <sdac_1x> jrib:  Hi, I'm back in windows.  i removed the package "fontconfig-config" but ethernet net working in recovery mode so i can't do apt-get installs.  can i download the package seperately and put on usb drive, or is there a way to install the ethernet drivers in recov mode ?
[08:10] <tom47> NaPsTeR_: huh???? how did you install it exactly?
[08:10] <turbolover> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3129/
[08:11] <NaPsTeR_> dw
[08:11] <wim> ok xtnight - cheers
[08:11] <NaPsTeR_> i think its working
[08:11] <ademan> Ki-Chi-Mi: i had this memory that Slax was meant for a liveCD and wouldn't allow writing to the thumbdrive
[08:11] <NaPsTeR_> i downoaded it
[08:11] <jrib> sdac_1x: when you boot normally, can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal with net access?
[08:11] <xtknight> wim, drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0::: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[08:11] <NaPsTeR_> now im doin it through synaptic
[08:11] <Ki-Chi-Mi> ademan: I managed to write to my penstick with it
[08:11] <sidny4> whenever I boot I have to modprobe ndiswrapper to get wireless working, how do I make it load ndiswrapper automatically?
[08:11] <wim> xtnight - what does that mean?
[08:11] <xtknight> wim, lol i know my name is tough, it has a k in it (xchat is picky)
[08:12] <xtknight> turbolover, one sec
[08:12] <wim> oh cr@p, yes, xtknight...darn
[08:12] <sdac_1x> jrib:  no booting normally freezes on the boot screen.  i tried ctralt f1 and f2 no response
[08:12] <xtknight> wim, there! ;)
[08:12] <darwinawards> !ndiswrapper
[08:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:12] <wim> too easy mistake to make!
[08:12] <turbolover> oh here is my xorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3130/
[08:12] <ademan> Ki-Chi-Mi: oh, sounds good then, i'll give it a try, do you happen to have a tutorial on how to get the cd image onto the thumbdrive though? i tried using gparted to no avail
[08:12] <viator> yeah i just installed the older version
[08:12] <Ki-Chi-Mi> BRB
[08:12] <viator> heh
[08:12] <relachs111118> can i burn the "ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso" on a DVD-RW?
[08:12] <xtknight> turbolover, ok.  you have dri and glx loaded twice.  i would remove the duplicate dri and glx extensions
[08:12] <relachs111118> as bootable dvd
[08:12] <wim> xtknight - I had no problems with this card on dapper
[08:13] <Ki-Chi-Mi> ADEMAN: google My slax creator
[08:13] <wim> Pci-e card
[08:13] <turbolover> ok fixed
[08:13] <xtknight> wim, researching..
[08:13] <turbolover> that part at least
[08:13] <xtknight> turbolover, restart x server
[08:13] <jrib> sdac_1x: you could do as you suggested (see packages.ubuntu.com to grab the deb) using a usb stick but that won't fix all those removed packages.  My other suggestion would be to stop gdm from trying to start, but if you say it is completely stuck, then it may be faster to just do a reinstall rather than keep troubleshooting this
[08:14] <obstfliege> Can someone help me with this: I installed this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52027 in System->Options->Theme Now the Taskbar an everything disapears ...  now i startet the "secure Gnome"
[08:14] <ademan> Ki-Chi-Mi: cool, thanks i'll check it out
[08:14] <peirce141> I just installed Symantec PcAnywhere 12 Crossplatform, and its giving me this error when I try to run it: exec: 7: /bin/bash2: not found
[08:14] <Ki-Chi-Mi> ademan: No problem :)
[08:15] <xtknight> wim, sudo modprobe drm
[08:15] <sdac_1x> jrib:  ok ill do a reinstall. is there any files i can save so that i can restore most of the configurations and driver installs ive done ?
[08:15] <Ki-Chi-Mi> ademan: You must also make sure that your schools computers support booting from USB Pendrives, you may need to change the boot order in the BIOS
[08:15] <wim> xtknight: onto something there I think: FATAL: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[08:16] <xtknight> wim, type "free" and report the results in pastebin
[08:16] <CarlFK> is there a command to mute the speaker ?
[08:16] <jrib> sdac_1x: save your /home
[08:16] <khatahn> hi, is the package installtion/uninstalltion history saved somewhere?
[08:17] <wim> xtknight - I got 2GB memory in my machine!
[08:17] <xtknight> turbolover, did you reboot ur X server yet?
[08:17] <sdac_1x> jrib:  i have that on a spearate partition
[08:17] <xtknight> wim, try it anyway
[08:17] <tom47> CarlFK if using gnome right click on speaker in top rh corner of screen
[08:17] <wim> xtknight: here goes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3133/
[08:17] <johnn> hi is there a way to find out which packages are installed from 3rd party repos? (something like apt-cache policy for all packages) ?
[08:17] <jrib> sdac_1x: I have to go now, gl.  That's good planning then, pat yourself on the back :)
[08:17] <CarlFK> tom47: command that I can put in a script
[08:17] <xtknight> wim, you are using the stock ubuntu kernel, correct?
[08:17] <sdac_1x> jrib:  alright then.  thanks for you help.
[08:18] <wim> xtknight: yep 6.10
[08:18] <xtknight> wim, type "sudo modprobe msr"  just to see if anything will load.  msr is not harmful, it is just a low-level interface to your CPU's registers
[08:18] <willys_noesta> join #ubuntu-ops
[08:19] <willys_noesta> ups
[08:19] <CarlFK> all even take rmmod ing a sound driver...
[08:19] <willys_noesta> XDD
[08:19] <wim> xtknight - seemed to load OK, as my prompt comes back without any message
[08:19] <willys_noesta> and I was waiting XDDD
[08:19] <turbolover> xt no i was afk for a sec
[08:19] <xtknight> wim, alright.  try "sudo modprobe fglrx" and then "sudo modprobe radeon" and then "sudo modprobe drm"
[08:19] <foxy0brown> #ubuntu-fr-classroom
[08:20] <darwinawards> xtknight: modprobe drm? drm as in digital restrictions management?
[08:20] <xtknight> darwinawards, fortunately not.
[08:20] <xtknight> darwinawards, direct rendering module
[08:20] <wim> xtknight: sudo modprobe fglrx is fine, radeon comes back with: WARNING: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[08:20] <wim> FATAL: Error inserting radeon (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[08:20] <darwinawards> xtknight: lol :-P
[08:20] <graungaard> rv
[08:20] <turbolover> xtknight: okay restarted
[08:21] <xtknight> lol restrictions management more like it.
[08:21] <darwinawards> I've got a problem with samba - can someone try to help me?
[08:21] <hbaigu> CarlFK, if you are using alsa, see man amixer
[08:21] <xtknight> supposedly it's "rights management" :P
[08:21] <turbolover> stil on mesa
[08:21] <xtknight> wim, post the output of 'dmesg' in pastebin please
[08:21] <turbolover> xtknight : i didnt install the restricted modules, could that have anything to do with it
[08:21] <darwinawards> anyone here have experience with samba?
[08:21] <willys_noesta> I dont remember who were helping me but I did an "apt-get update" and I still dont have libxine-extracodecs
[08:22] <CarlFK> hbaigu: I think something is circumventing alas - cuz that is already muted
[08:22] <utO> ciao
[08:22] <darwinawards> willys_noesta: alright - manually add every section of every part of every repository to your sources.list
[08:22] <CarlFK> but I am in a class, and now and then I get "bling!" - I think it is the play command
[08:22] <xtknight> turbolover, post the output of 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:22] <darwinawards> or just download the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: I have 2 packages that I keep from edgy
[08:23] <xtknight> turbolover, i dont think the restricted modules would matter.  fglrx looks like its being loaded.  type "sudo modprobe fglrx" right now also just to make sure. but i still need your Xorg.0.log
[08:23] <darwinawards> willys_noesta: why?
[08:23] <wim> xtknight: there you go mate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3139/
[08:23] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: this packages I have:
[08:23] <willys_noesta> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb
[08:23] <willys_noesta> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:24] <xtknight> wim, [ [17179598.472000]  [fglrx:firegl_init_pcie]  *ERROR* Invalid GART type 0. ]
[08:24] <xtknight> wim, post your Xorg config
[08:24] <darwinawards> willys_noesta: you want http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[08:24] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: should I try to install one of those??
[08:24] <turbolover> sid@sid-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:24] <turbolover> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:25] <darwinawards> turbolover: you're not getting 3d rendering?
[08:25] <xtknight> wim, one of a kind error, that is for sure.  cant find google results
[08:25] <wim> xtknight: hmmm that's probably a bad thing then! here's my xorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3141/
[08:25] <dimeo> Who's got a favorite list of packages to install?  Here's one :   sudo apt-get install cream gtodo	notecase streamtuner smbfs checkgmail brightside beagle
[08:25] <dimeo> goobox gstreamer0.8-lame  p7zip-full dvdrip k9copym  gddrescue
[08:25] <xtknight> turbolover, `uname -a` please
[08:26] <turbolover> whats the pastebin again?
[08:26] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: but then the question: IF that pagkage is on dapper repos why I dont have them??
[08:26] <xtknight> !pastebin|turbolover
[08:26] <ubotu> turbolover: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <xtknight> turbolover, just paste uname -a   here
[08:26] <willys_noesta> darwinawards: you could take a look at my sources but they are good
[08:26] <dimeo> gddrescue is fun... great to salvage family photos from a scratched CD-R
[08:26] <darwinawards> I've got a problem with samba - it's installed and the firewall exceptions are enabled, but my windows laptop can't connect to them via hostname (doing \\<IP_ADDRESS> works though) - what could the problem be?
[08:26] <wim> xtknight - nothing that exciting about my xorg.conf, looks pretty normal to me....
[08:27] <turbolover> Linux sid-desktop 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:27] <xtknight> wim, try removing BusID.  you know how to get back here if there's any problems right?
[08:27] <turbolover> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3142/
[08:27] <wim> xtknight - remove BusID completely?
[08:27] <xtknight> wim, the whole busid line yes
[08:28] <wim> xtknight: ok - yep - I know how to get back, "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" etc... ;-)
[08:28] <turbolover> xt: that is the log of /var/log/xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3142/
[08:28] <xtknight> wim, yeah just add busid back in i guess.  or change driver to vesa and remove dri/glx
[08:28] <opopanax> hello people
[08:28] <roberto> c
[08:28] <xtknight> wim, if you have issues without busid
[08:28] <xtknight> turbolover, thanks
[08:28] <xtknight> what he
[08:28] <xtknight> turbolover, having the same problems as wim
[08:28] <xtknight> talk about odd
[08:28] <kritzstapf> hi, id like ubuntu to use the ntfs-3g-driver to mount ntfs-disks (usbsticks) when mounting automatically, how to achive this?
[08:29] <wim> ok - be back shortly
[08:29] <xtknight> is there some problem with the latest ati drivers maybe ?
[08:29] <xtknight> wim, alright
[08:29] <TrioTorus> problem running commercial software (pftrack): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3137/
[08:29] <TrioTorus>  it's an old 32bit program but it is complaining about gcc4.2??
[08:29] <opopanax> what's up with ctrl-alt-+/- in edgy?  doesn't seem to work, and the switch video mode also doesn't work with some gl apps like nwn
[08:29] <xtknight> turbolover, (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel.
[08:29] <turbolover> xt: so would this be the root cause of my sluggishness?
[08:29] <ab> RE-INSTALL xtknight
[08:29] <dimeo> !automatix
[08:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:29] <xtknight> ab, me?  why lol
[08:30] <xtknight> turbolover, yes likely
[08:30] <dimeo> is automatix really *that* bad?
[08:30] <TrioTorus> I'm trying to run pftrack on 64bit ubuntu edgy eft
[08:30] <yellow> dimeo, i tried it, never used it, never liked it
[08:30] <dimeo> It's worked great!
[08:30] <dimeo>  www.getautomatix.com: bittornado, sunjava, network manager, multimedia codecs, media players:	mplayer and ff plugin, AUD-DVD codecs, archiving tools, adobe reader,  wine, GnomeBaker, ctrl-alt-delete, oh and for sure democracy player!
[08:30] <javi> hola
[08:30] <yellow> and now my new box i'm running is without it and it's GREAT too
[08:30] <yellow> ^^!
[08:30] <dimeo> easy to do all that with no errors so far
[08:30] <xtknight> turbolover, looks like a kernel version mismatch
[08:30] <xtknight> Was there a recent kernel update to ubuntu?
[08:30] <darwinawards> dimeo: automatix sucks ass...
[08:31] <JJ> hi all,,,,,,,,, whats the best app to use to connect ubunto to my works VPN please ?
[08:31] <dimeo> darwin.. .why do you figure?
[08:31] <christof-kr> TrioTorus, try removing (or just moving away) the libgcc_s.so.1 in yout pftrack installation
[08:31] <darwinawards> xtknight: no, unless you installed the 2.6.17-50 one from proposed updates
[08:31] <darwinawards> dimeo: because it doesn't do anything that apt-get can't and because it breaks more often than it works
[08:32] <Linux_Newbie_756> my ubuntu has been booting slower than usual, any sugestions as to how i can speed it up?
[08:32] <yellow> JJ,  try vino (already installed by default), set up ssh, and runs vino through a ssh tunnel
[08:32] <obstfliege> How do i install this mousetheme : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52027
[08:32] <beuno> JJ, also, http://realvpn.real.com/#download
[08:32] <mirak> hi
[08:32] <mirak> I have a broken package, python-freevo , how can I remove it ?
[08:32] <opopanax> dang it
[08:32] <yellow> beuno, is realvpn better than vino ?
[08:32] <beuno> JJ, install instructions: http://vance.cis.gsu.edu/2006/05/17/vpn-client-on-linux-at-gsu/
[08:32] <mirak> reinstall or remove doesn't work
[08:32] <dimeo> most of those packages I listed were crazy to install without automatix.. .and not in the repositories:  sunjava, media codecs, and a few half dozen other
[08:32] <christof-kr> TrioTorus, seems like pftrack provides it's own libgcc which is not compatible with the rest of your system. so moving it away may help to resolve the confusion
[08:33] <xtknight> turbolover, im still investigating.  it looks like you have similar problems as wim does
[08:33] <christof-kr> TrioTorus,  so that the system libs are used
[08:33] <dimeo> automatix made it a point and click ... ok maybe two clicks
[08:33] <beuno> yellow, haven't tested them enough to say, only used them ocassionally
[08:33] <yellow> only caveat i have with vino is it doesn't work unless you're manually logged in
[08:33] <JJ> thanks. ill try when I get bcak
[08:33] <BigToe> !vnc
[08:33] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:33] <opopanax> automatix appears to be okay, but i don't like something changing my repos (especially to broken ones) without explicitly letting me know.
[08:33] <dimeo> Bigtoe: check out freenx... I think it's waaay better
[08:33] <DeltaStorm> Can someone tell me how to install gnome-ppp on ubuntu 6.10 (I get an error message could not find package)??
[08:34] <mirak> help
[08:34] <comthre3-Bird> hey,,
[08:34] <BigToe> dimeo, yeah, but the client's on windows... or can you use freenx on windows?
[08:34] <TrioTorus> christof-kr, hey thanks! That worked1
[08:34] <guerby> hi, I added a new disk to my ubuntu edgy machine (/dev/sda), created a partition with gparted, now is there a graphical tool to mount it?
[08:34] <wim> ok xtknight: back...I commented out the BusID line using #, restarted X, and it crashed (garbled graphics)
[08:35] <xtknight> wim, are these drivers off of ati.com ?
[08:35] <psynaps3> Hi, can someone please tell me how to change the boot flag? i just reinstalled windows and i need to set the boot flag back to the /boot partition
[08:35] <mrbayHU> hey
[08:35] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, i see it in my listing.
[08:35] <yellow> guerby, put it in /etc/fstab
[08:35] <DeltaStorm> ???
[08:36] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp?
[08:36] <Cryoniq> variant: Is fuse implemented in the kernel already since 2.6.14? Or one need to install that?
[08:36] <DeltaStorm> yes i know
[08:36] <wim> xtknight, no, they're the ones that came with ubuntu...well, downloaded them using apt-get install
[08:36] <christof-kr> TrioTorus, great!
[08:36] <DeltaStorm> but it say could not find package
[08:36] <comthre3-Bird> guys, im trying to run ubuntu 6.10,i burnt the cd fine, everything is ok, but when i try running it, i get a white line on the top of my laptop screen, and then the screen slowly turns white, im guessing its a vedio card problem, i have a trident cyberblade XP, is there anyway to run ubuntu with that graphics card? thank you
[08:36] <xtknight> wim, ok.  i would try the ones off ati.com
[08:36] <guerby> yellow, no ui tool? my fstab is full of UUID=80ec3e86-aa4e-484b-94e3-16ab7ba1c193... how do I find the UUID?
[08:36] <opopanax> maybe a typo?  are you using synaptic?
[08:36] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, try installing with "alternate version
[08:36] <mirak> help
[08:36] <xtknight> !uuid
[08:36] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:36] <wim> xtknight - I tried the latest driver package, but have a completely different problem - "architecture not supported" when trying to build a package for Ubuntu/6.10
[08:36] <DeltaStorm> No
[08:36] <xtknight> guerby, type "blkid" to get UUIDS
[08:37] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, see if synaptic will find "ppp" with a search for it.
[08:37] <yellow> there ya go guerby
[08:37] <yellow> =)
[08:37] <xtknight> guerby,  "sudo blkid" perhaps, sorry
[08:37] <comthre3-Bird> beuno i dont want to install it now, i want to run the live cd first see how it is then install it,
[08:37] <DeltaStorm> i tried gnome-ppp it didnt find it...
[08:37] <xtknight> wim, 32 bit or 64 bit host?
[08:37] <skumar> GUIDE: I have some previously d/l ed deb packages; can i use them now
[08:37] <beuno> oh, then you should search the forums to see what specific flags you need to set with that video card
[08:37] <guerby> yellow, xtknight thx I got it /dev/sda1: UUID="d9c7090a-5601-4f25-ba3e-9d66880b2114"
[08:37] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, do you have the universe repository enabled?
[08:37] <wim> My system is 64 bit AMD, but I'm running 32 bit Edgy
[08:38] <comthre3-Bird> beuno ok,
[08:38] <xtknight> wim, and you downloaded the 32-bit driver package
[08:38] <xtknight> wim, ?
[08:38] <wim> yep...
[08:38] <xtknight> wim, well lets try that route again.
[08:38] <DeltaStorm> I cant connect to the NET im trying to install my modem, im connecting from win now
[08:38] <xtknight> !ati
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <DeltaStorm> so i cant download anything from linux
[08:38] <wim> xtknight - well, I think it has 32 bit as well as 64 bit in the driver package - it's a whopping 50MB odd download
[08:38] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, ah, i see.  not on the cd.
[08:39] <psynaps3> Hi, can someone please tell me how to change the boot flag? i just reinstalled windows and i need to set the boot flag back to the /boot partition
[08:39] <darwinawards> well, this blows
[08:39] <kritzstapf> hi, id like ubuntu to use the ntfs-3g-driver to mount ntfs-disks (usbsticks) when mounting automatically, how to achive this?
[08:39] <hyperb0lix> psynaps3: fdisk?
[08:39] <hyperb0lix> wim: Wim is my German class name :P
[08:39] <wim> hyperb0lix - hehe - I'm Dutch
[08:39] <DeltaStorm> I tried using pppconfig, it dialed , you can hear the normal modem sound and it just cant connect... :(
[08:39] <opopanax> interesting
[08:39] <axisys> !dst
[08:39] <opopanax> well, doesn't sound like a hardware problem
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <wim> xtknight: I downloaded the first download off: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[08:40] <xtknight> wim, edgy right?
[08:40] <psynaps3> hyperb0lix: argh, stupid me... thanks
[08:40] <psynaps3> :)
[08:40] <wim> xtknight - 6.10 release
[08:40] <AphoxemaG> Can someone help me booting Ubuntu? u.u
[08:40] <axisys> is there a patch for DST for ubuntu?
[08:40] <axisys> AphoxemaG: reboot
[08:40] <DeltaStorm> I can connect using networking tool on 6.06 but on 6.10 I cant using networking cuz it doesnt have activate or deactivate buttons
[08:40] <xtknight> wim, switch to the vesa driver and report back here.  we will have to remove traces of the old fglrx
[08:41] <wim> xtknight: ok - I'll switch back to VESA....
[08:41] <xtknight> wim, you know how to?
[08:41] <wim> yep - no probs
[08:41] <xtknight> wim, dont forget to remove dri/glx from extensions
[08:41] <xtknight> ok
[08:41] <DeltaStorm> is there a link to gnome-ppp so I can manually download it and then install it?
[08:41] <wim> xtknight - yes ok
[08:41] <xtknight> turbolover, youre still around i assume?
[08:42] <turbolover> yeah
[08:42] <xtknight> turbolover, did you download drivers off ati.com?
[08:42] <AphoxemaG> Oh, I'm in Slackware right now... when I try to boot from a 2.6 kernel with PCI access set to 'any', I have to append 'pci=nommconfig' because my parentboard is incompatable with it, but Casper won't start with that
[08:42] <turbolover> xtknight yes, at one time, and it fubared my X
[08:42] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, hold on....
[08:42] <opopanax> pppconfig should work for you
[08:42] <sivik> my synaptic says there are packages broken, how do i fix it
[08:42] <xtknight> turbolover, did you disable "Composite" ?
[08:42] <turbolover> xtknight couldnt even reconfigure, had to install it an dchange xorg to get it up again
[08:42] <turbolover> xtknight eh? where?
[08:43] <xtknight> turbolover,  follow this section:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[08:43] <comthre3-Bird> beuno, couldnt find anything on the forum:(
[08:43] <DeltaStorm> it does work, in a way, it dials makes a 20 second "modem sound" and then disconnects
[08:43] <dimeo> Are there any estimates of how many ubuntu users worldwide?
[08:43] <comthre3-Bird> can anyone help me?
[08:43] <dimeo> that anyone knows of?
[08:43] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, right, but what protocol did you tell it to use, chat?
[08:43] <DeltaStorm> yes
[08:43] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, what video card is that you have?
[08:43] <AphoxemaG> wow, KVIrc's gotten alot better...
[08:44] <dimeo> !kvirc
[08:44] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2871 kB, installed size 8644 kB
[08:44] <mirak> can anyone help me to remove a broken package ?
[08:44] <comthre3-Bird> beuno trident cyberbladeXP
[08:44] <xtknight> mirak, sure
[08:44] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, i dunno, bud
[08:44] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, hold
[08:44] <rox> hello ... upon starting scorch3d, it segfaults ... has anybody successfully fixed this problem?
[08:44] <dimeo> mirak::   $sudo apt-get remove  package-name
[08:44] <rjg> I'm having a issue...
[08:44] <dimeo> does that work mirak?
[08:44] <mirak> dimeo: off course it doesn't
[08:44] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, stupid question, but did you try another number?
[08:45] <comthre3-Bird> i get the first menu, but when i try anything else, like installing or anything i get the same horisatal white line, then the screen starts going white
[08:45] <xtknight> !scorch3d
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scorch3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <rjg> I have something called a bottom expanded edge panel at the bottom of my screen, skinning with my theme....How can I get rid of it?
[08:45] <wim> xtknight: ok - back in vesa...
[08:45] <xtknight> rox, is it a 3d program that is accelerated?
[08:45] <AphoxemaG> I guess I'll just need to try booting from a different kernel
[08:45] <rox> xtknight: it is, yes
[08:45] <xtknight> rox, do you have 3d accelerated drivers and direct rendering installed properly?
[08:45] <DeltaStorm> no I have only one ISP
[08:45] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, i think i understand....
[08:45] <mirak> dimeo: it says the package is in an incoherent state and that I should reinstall it before remobing, but of course install doesn't work
[08:45] <wim> I also noticed that simply restarting X did crash X....
[08:45] <guerby> yellow, xtknight hmmm error on mount: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9c7090a-5601-4f25-ba3e-9d66880b2114 does not exist
[08:45] <xtknight> wim, ok, follow this section:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[08:45] <rox> xtknight: indeed i do, other 3c accelerated programs function as expected
[08:45] <task0> hello all, how do i change the date format in ubuntu??
[08:45] <opopanax> what you need to know is what's going on with the isp's logon prompt.
[08:45] <xtknight> rox, where did you obtain scorch3d?
[08:46] <guerby> indeed it's missing in  /dev/disk/by-uuid
[08:46] <DeltaStorm> ?
[08:46] <rox> xtknight: ubuntu repository
[08:46] <guerby> how do I create it?
[08:46] <rox> xtknight: synaptic
[08:46] <sivik> Could not upgrade the system!
[08:46] <sivik> Fix broken packages first.
[08:46] <wim> I actually had to reboot properly, which makes me wonder whether it's worth trying to reboot without the BusID...rather than just restarting X
[08:46] <sivik> how do i fix it
[08:46] <xtknight> rox, oh, what's the pkg name?
[08:46] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, open a terminal program, hold on.....
[08:46] <comthre3-Bird> beuno any luck?
[08:46] <xtknight> rox, and are you on 64bit ubuntu or 32?
[08:46] <rox> xtknight: scorched3d and scorched3d-data
[08:46] <AphoxemaG> Should I expect the ATI proprietary drivers to be garbage, or am I configuring something wrong?
[08:46] <guerby> !uuid
[08:46] <rjg> I have something called a bottom expanded edge panel at the bottom of my screen, skinning with my theme....How can I get rid of it?
[08:46] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:46] <rox> xtknight: no, it's a 32 bit intel
[08:46] <DeltaStorm> I didnt fill server IP adress and on ssword and oggin i put password and login
[08:47] <rox> !scorched3d
[08:47] <alecjw> AphoxemaG: you should expect tham to be worse than the nvidia ones
[08:47] <ubotu> scorched3d: 3D artillery game similar to Scorched Earth. In component universe, is optional. Version 40-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1042 kB, installed size 2724 kB
[08:47] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, have you tried it in "safe graphics mode"?
[08:47] <xtknight> rox, type "sudo apt-get install strace"
[08:47] <comthre3-Bird> beuno yeah, same thing
[08:47] <wim> xtknight: I actually had to reboot properly for vesa, which makes me wonder whether it's worth trying to reboot without the BusID...rather than just restarting X
[08:47] <dimeo> MS Vista review:  "installation process can last from 25 minutes to several hours, depending on the computer's hardware, according to PC analysts."
[08:47] <DeltaStorm> sorry I cant im on win now cuz i dont have net on ubuntu, that is what im trying to fix using gnome-ppp
[08:47] <dimeo> holy
[08:47] <rox> xtknight: i did strace it ...it segfaults after closing /etc/passwd
[08:47] <DeltaStorm> but ill write it down?
[08:47] <xtknight> wim, odd.  maybe gdm wasnt stopped.  anyway try those instructions i posted
[08:47] <dimeo> !vista
[08:47] <sivik> dimeo, and that probably has to do with which version your installing
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, can you post your /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider to #flood?
[08:48] <rox> xtknight: which seems kind of weird, doesn't it?
[08:48] <turbolover> xtknight: um i use dapper drake would it be the exact same?
[08:48] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, try downloading Dapper (6.06)
[08:48] <xtknight> rox, not sure.  mind posting the whole strace log?
[08:48] <opopanax> crap, i guess not.
[08:48] <AphoxemaG> Well, it's good my friend's sending me a 7300 in a few weeks... I know glxgears isn't the best benchmark, but I have an X700 and I'm only getting 200fps at 1650x1080
[08:48] <rox> xtknight: a second
[08:48] <comthre3-Bird> beuno whats that?
[08:48] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, you're in windows...
[08:48] <xtknight> turbolover, oh.  there is a dapper section on that same site
[08:48] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, and try adding "acpi=off" as a boot flag to edgy first
[08:48] <patbam> olly carp ubuntu is teh hawt
[08:48] <mirak> is there a standart way to remove manually any broken packages ?
[08:49] <opopanax> so, DeltaStorm, did you enter your username and password twice?
[08:49] <xtknight> mirak, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:49] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, download here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#lts
[08:49] <mirak> xtknight: it doesn't always work
[08:49] <DeltaStorm> twice? what do you mean where?
[08:49] <beuno> comthre3-Bird, it's a previous version, more *stable*
[08:49] <xtknight> mirak, sudo dpkg --purge <pkgname>
[08:49] <guerby> hi again, what tool populates /dev/disk/by-uuid? I added a disk and need to add it there
[08:49] <xtknight> guerby, you have to reboot for it to show up in uuid if you have not already.  same for partitions showing up
[08:49] <opopanax> ok, just checking.  there's two sets of options.  one is the login prompt that the isp sends, usually "login:"
[08:49] <dimeo> "In the end, no operating system is impervious to viruses - even Apple's Macintosh, which was targeted by malicious software last year - analysts say."
[08:50] <guerby> xtknight, reboot?
[08:50] <guerby> no other way
[08:50] <dimeo> Has ubuntu got any threats out there?
[08:50] <mirak> xtknight: it doesn't work either
[08:50] <xtknight> guerby, not sure.  not that i know of
[08:50] <comthre3-Bird> beuno ok, ill try that
[08:50] <DeltaStorm> yes i wrote login: and password: for the isp
[08:50] <xtknight> mirak, dont understand.  what's the issue exactly?
[08:50] <Cyrus25801> hey guys. what is a good program for writing dvd's
[08:50] <midgetg0at> anyone familiar with getting the thumb button of a mouse to work?
[08:50] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, the other, of course, is the actual uname and password
[08:50] <dimeo> cyrus... gnomebaker
[08:50] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, try leaving it as "ogin:" and "ssword:"
[08:50] <midgetg0at> er...not sure if my msg got missed i just got cut off by a flood of msgs...forgive the repost: anyone familiar with getting the thumb button of a mouse to work?
[08:50] <opopanax> that way if the first couple chars are dropped, you won't miss out.
[08:50] <DeltaStorm> ok, ill try!
[08:50] <DeltaStorm> Thank you for you help  <opopanax>! :)
[08:51] <Borzen__> When i go to install ubuntu on a fat 32 partiton it wont install help
[08:51] <opopanax> DeltaStorm, hope it works.  i hate ppp
[08:51] <Cyrus25801> dimeo: thanx will try that
[08:51] <beobal> can anybody point me at a repos where i can get kernel 2.6.19 please?
[08:51] <sivik> Borzen__, its because fat 32 is not a valid linux partition for installing
[08:51] <thug> how do i give read write permission do a mounted disk ext3 partition for all users ?
[08:51] <sivik> beobal, as far as i know, only the feisty
[08:51] <midgetg0at> I've got: Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 7 6" and Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in xorg...still not working. ideas?
[08:51] <Cyrus25801> dimeo: can i write data dvd's as well as video dvd's with that program
[08:51] <Borzen__> Ok
[08:51] <beobal> thx sivik
[08:52] <Borzen__> if i reformated the partition in widows will can i use that in ubuntu
[08:52] <sivik> beobal, yw
[08:52] <Borzen__> and dual boot
[08:52] <opopanax> so, what's up with ctrl-alt-+/- for changing the video mode, anyone know what's up with that in edgy?
[08:52] <sivik> Borzen__, yes, ubuntu will see the windows parition not matter what partition type you use for ubuntu, you also must have a swap parition for linux to work
[08:53] <Borzen__> ok will it dual boot with 2 HDD though?
[08:53] <bauer77> yes Borzen
[08:53] <mirak> xtknight: the paquet won't install or remove itself properly
[08:53] <sivik> Borzen__, yes
[08:53] <xtknight> beobal, you would have to compile it.  i dont think it's in any reops yet
[08:53] <xtknight> mirak, which pacage?
[08:53] <Borzen__> thanks bie
[08:53] <mirak> xtknight: python-freevo
[08:53] <xtknight> mirak, could you post the output of "sudo dpkg --purge python-freevo"
[08:53] <beuno> Borzen__, it will triple boot with 100 hds if you wish, Linux way of handling partitions and disks is very loose
[08:53] <GMWeezel> Is there a way to extract RAR archives in Linux?
[08:54] <xtknight> GMWeezel, "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[08:54] <sivik> GMWeezel, yes
[08:54] <task0> how do i install grub on a floppy?
[08:54] <GMWeezel> thanks
[08:54] <fabiim> i'm trying to mount a fat32 disk , but it's being mounted in read-only everytime . I tried -w , but still doesn't work . What's wrong?
[08:54] <shatrat> GMWeezel, theres an "unrar" utility. Not sure if its in the repos or universe or what, I use it all the time though
[08:54] <xtknight> task0, sudo grub-install /dev/fd0  as far as i know.
[08:54] <Flannel> thug: you need to change the umask or maybe change ro to rw, in your fstab (or in your mount command)
[08:54] <mirak> xtknight: dpkg crash
[08:55] <xtknight> mirak, exact error please?
[08:55] <task0> xtknight: will try
[08:55] <turbolover> okay running
[08:55] <thug> Flannel defaults,errors=remount-rw 0       0 ?
[08:55] <Telroth|Away|Dep> anyone available to help with boot/grub/kernel problems ?
[08:55] <xtknight> thug, you just had it remount RW in the case of errors.  you need it to mount RW to start with.
[08:55] <task0> xtknight: i get /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:55] <xtknight> thug, i would change to remount-ro  and then work from there
[08:55] <turbolover> i think its funny that in the instructions for the dapper section it tells you to use a command that is edgy specific then afterwards tells you if you are using dapper drake to change it, reaosn its funny is because it is supposed to be a dapper section
[08:56] <thug> xtknight so defaults,errors=remount-rw 0       0  isnt right ?
[08:56] <shatrat> turbolover, tell the maintainer :)
[08:56] <xtknight> thug, change to remount-ro.
[08:56] <enix> if a bios doesnt have the ability to boot from usb then there is no way to enable it is there?
[08:56] <thug> it just was like that
[08:56] <Flannel> thug: alright, you'll want to add a umask then.  it'll determine the maximum permissions you can have
[08:56] <thug> Flannel how will i do that ?
[08:56] <enix> i know this isnt very ubuntu specfic
[08:56] <shatrat> enix, Not that I've ever heard up.  You might check for bios firmware updates with the feature
[08:57] <xtknight> enix, if you boot a kernel that supports usb booting, maybe.  for example boot off a floppy, and that could boot off usb if there were drivers
[08:57] <xtknight> task0, hmm.
[08:57] <shatrat> Maybe grub could boot off a USB?
[08:57] <turbolover> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:57] <turbolover>  fglrx-control_8.28.8-1_i386.deb
[08:57] <rox> xtknight: here's the strace http://rafb.net/p/vw6DAM30.html
[08:57] <enix> i am weary about firmware upgrades, i dont wanna brick my comp
[08:57] <enix> thanks for the suggestions
[08:58] <opopanax> shatrat, grub will boot off usb, if your mobo supports it.
[08:58] <rox> xtknight: it seems to open /etc/passwd, seek it, mmap, munmap, and finally segfault on close
[08:58] <xtknight> rox, odd.  not sure i can be of much help there.  maybe you could try ltrace
[08:58] <hofmann> Hello, @ll from Hannover,Germany
[08:59] <Ki-Chi-Mi> I have a wirelesscard i got it installed but now it connects to my wireless network then will disconnect and refuse to reconnect, i dont know what the make is but the model number is PANWL2203 and it has a ZyDAS chipset
[08:59] <Telroth|Away|Dep> can anyone help me boot up my computer? I removed a drive from my computer and while it didn't have any files on it, it messed up the drive numbers that grub was using. I have a grub stage 1 floppy, but the kernel refuses to boot.
[08:59] <hofmann> Do you use a MAC Adressfilter in your Accespoint?
[08:59] <Flannel> thug: umask=[whatever]   (umasks are the masks taken for the perms, so like 000 would be 777 perms, 022 is default
[09:00] <guerby> xtknight, yellow FYI the needed command is "sudo udevtrigger", it populates various thing including /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:00] <Flannel> thug: er, not default, but preferred
[09:00] <task0> xtknight: what can i do?
[09:00] <xtknight> guerby, thanks!
[09:00] <guerby> xtknight, :)
[09:00] <Flannel> thug: man mount for more information
[09:00] <rox> xtknight: it fails in GetUserName ... is this a gtk call?
[09:00] <xtknight> task0, really no idea.  google it i guess.  i just copied over a HD mbr to make my floppy but i had a HD mbr to spare
[09:01] <xtknight> rox, eek.  im only famiilar with windows api
[09:01] <Telroth|Away|Dep> opopanax, do you have a few minutes to help me get my computer booting?
[09:01] <rox> xtknight: indeed GetUserName seems to be a windows api function ... i thought it might also be in gtk or sdl or in something that is used in scorched3d
[09:02] <opopanax> Telroth|Away|Dep, maybe
[09:02] <opopanax> what's happening?
[09:02] <turbolover> argh
[09:02] <turbolover> still using mesa after those instructions
[09:02] <eodchop> Has anyone been able to get their broadcom wirless card working under ubuntu?
[09:02] <helpz0r> i'm trying to install ubuntu from the live cd, but whenever i press next after choosing my keyboard layout in the wizard the screen goes crazy with diagnol lines and i can't do anything exept restart X.  Is there a way to install it from the CLI ?
[09:02] <aleka> HOw can I connect to another linux box that is on the same router as my ubuntu box? (ssh)
[09:02] <rox> no, i got it ... it's really stupid
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> aleka: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:03] <Telroth|Away|Dep> opopanax, I recently removed a drive (hd1,0) from my computer. grub was installed to hd(2,0). I didn't realize this because the computer didn't have any ram in it so it wasn't booting anyways.
[09:03] <rox> xtknight: i'll paste two consecutive lines of ltrace
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> aleka: It needs to have opensss-server installed.
[09:03] <rox> free(0x8362548)                                  = <void>
[09:03] <rox> _Z13wxGetUserNamev(0xbf93ef9c, 0x8362548, 0xb78b4df4, 0xb7f946d0, 0xb74c0dd1 <unfinished ...>
[09:03] <opopanax> Telroth|Away|Dep, ok
[09:04] <xtknight> turbolover, sorry.  im not sure what the issue is with the ati drivers
[09:04] <aleka> tonyyarusso: got it.. I had to find out what the local ip was
[09:04] <Telroth|Away|Dep> opopanax, I have a grub stage 1 floppy, which i can use to boot windows on (hd0,0), but when i attempt to boot my kernel on (hd1,0) (formerly (hd2,0)), it hangs
[09:04] <helpz0r> ;[
[09:04] <xtknight> rox, guess it's time to post on launchpad
[09:04] <eodchop> Has anyone been able to get a broamcom wireless card working in ubuntu?
[09:04] <rox> xtknight: it frees a pointer just beofre it passes it to a GetUserName call ...
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> aleka: If you have physical access to the box, 'ifconfig', otherwise check the router's admin interface
[09:04] <rox> xtknight: launchpad?=
[09:04] <variant> eodchop: we all heard you the first time
[09:04] <Telroth|Away|Dep> opopanax, udev is installed so it took me a while to track down my UUID for the drive to allow the kernel to find the root partition, but now instead of panicing it just hangs
[09:04] <xtknight> !launchpad | rox
[09:04] <ubotu> rox: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[09:05] <rox> xtknight: thank you, i'll file a bug
[09:05] <variant> "launchpad is proprietry closed source software" - It doesn't mention that part
[09:05] <wim> Hi xtknight! Thanks man - your instructions worked!
[09:05] <wim> wim@ubuntumonster:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[09:05] <wim> direct rendering: Yes
[09:05] <xtknight> wim, cool
[09:05] <Danielss89> ive just tryied to install ubuntu 6.10 but i got a "no rootfilesystem choosen"
[09:05] <comthre3-Bird> didnt work :(
[09:05] <Danielss89> ive just tryied to install ubuntu 6.10 but i got a "no rootfilesystem choosen" even though i have choosed "/"
[09:05] <opopanax> Telroth|Away|Dep, can you at least mount the partition under a livecd or something?  you'll have to most likely change the references in /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst to reference the new drive instead of the old.
[09:06] <helpz0r> i can't even install it, the installer dies on me :(
[09:06] <comthre3-Bird> still same white line
[09:06] <wim> xtknight - few problems with ati control thing that was installed, so did apt-get remove on existing one and re- ran it
[09:06] <variant> Danielss89: yo uhave to choose a filesystem for / to be on..
[09:06] <task0> how can i install grub in a floppy??? i get this error! -> /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[09:06] <variant> Danielss89: try ext3
[09:06] <aleka> tonyyarusso: question on scp.. once I am connected to the other linux box (ssh), I want to copy one file over to my ubuntu box
[09:06] <wim> xtknight: now off to install xgl and beryl!!! yummy!
[09:06] <Danielss89> variant i tryied that, or i tryied on a ntfs system
[09:06] <thefenixgreen> hola quien habla espanol??
[09:06] <Flannel> !es | thefenixgreen
[09:06] <ubotu> thefenixgreen: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:06] <comthre3-Bird> is there a command based boot option in ubuntu?
[09:06] <wim> thanks again for the help - very much appreciated
[09:07] <comthre3-Bird> that i could edit the xorg from?
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> aleka: scp /path/to/file your.ubuntu.box.ip:/path/of/destination
[09:07] <Danielss89> !dk
[09:07] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[09:07] <variant> aleka: you don't need to ssh first.. scp is like this: scp user@host:/path/to/file user@2ndhost:/path/to/file
[09:07] <opopanax> Telroth, any luck?
[09:07] <variant> comthre3-Bird: at the boot menu press "c
[09:07] <variant> "
[09:08] <thefenixgreen> gracias
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> aleka: scp goes either way with an ssh session on it's own, so you don't need to ssh in first, but if you're logged in that way you can send the other direction too
[09:08] <bootleg> since ubuntu has lots of problems with ati cards should i just not use ubuntu?
[09:08] <comthre3-Bird> variant thanx, do u know how to make ubuntu run with a cyberbladexp graphics card?
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> bootleg: I have an ATI card on Ubuntu.  3D acceleration is sketchy, but for normal use it's fine.
[09:08] <wim> bootleg - you'll get over the ATI hurdle...
[09:08] <variant> tonyyarusso: i shtat nvidia or ati or some other manufacturer?
[09:08] <opopanax> Telroth, when I say /boot/grub/, I'm referring to the grub files on the drive you're trying to boot from
[09:09] <Telroth> i know
[09:09] <opopanax> okie, cool.
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> variant: Hmm?  Mine is an ATI Radeon Mobility X300
[09:09] <bootleg> well like, first it takes a while to jut get it to work
[09:09] <Telroth> i'm loading the livecd
[09:09] <bootleg> then i will have a crippled system
[09:09] <Telroth> i was hoping a grub floppy woould be enough to load the system
[09:09] <bootleg> so should i just stick with windows
[09:09] <variant> comthre3-Bird: is htat nvidia or ati or some other?
[09:09] <variant> tonyyarusso: sorry wrong nick'
[09:10] <comthre3-Bird> variant its trident
[09:10] <opopanax> Telroth, grub still has to know where to look for its config files.
[09:10] <variant> comthre3-Bird: and it wont boot?
[09:10] <Danielss89> variant i tryied that, or i tryied on a ntfs system
[09:10] <variant> Danielss89: you can't install to ntfs
[09:10] <variant> Danielss89: you have to format a partition with a native fs.. ext2/3 or reiserfs
[09:10] <opopanax> hahahaha, why would you want to install to ntfs
[09:10] <comthre3-Bird> variant no, i get a white vertical line onto, even when i try safe graphics boot, then the screen turns white slowly, its a laptop
[09:11] <variant> opopanax: because he doesn't konw you cant
[09:11] <Telroth> opopanax, even when i use "root (hd1,0)", "kernel /vmlinuz <kernel options>", "initrd /initrd.img", "boot" ?
[09:11] <opopanax> variant, sorry didn't mean to offend
[09:11] <Danielss89> okey,
[09:11] <Danielss89> variant ill try
[09:11] <section31> is there a drive partitioner in ubuntu?  I want to my modify a few of my partitions on there
[09:11] <variant> opopanax: you didnt :)
[09:12] <Telroth> section31, qtparted or gparted
[09:12] <thug> whats the command to set drwxr--r-- for a directory ?
[09:12] <Hozer> question:  how can i use apt-get to reinstall files from a package which were deleted?
[09:12] <Hozer> Doesn't seem to do this...
[09:12] <aleka> variant: cp user@host:/path/to/file user@2ndhost:/path/to/file is asking me for a password.. not sure if it's for source pw or destinatio pw
[09:12] <Ki-Chi-Mi> thug: chmod
[09:12] <opopanax> Telroth, good point
[09:12] <section31> Telroth,is that a command line utility
[09:12] <Hozer> thug, "chmod 744 $directory"
[09:12] <comthre3-Bird> variant i looked online and everything, couldt a solution
[09:12] <variant> section31: gparted is what your looking for.. make sure you have all the filesystem tools installed for the filesystems you want to modify might show as "unsupported" when really they are
[09:12] <kritzstapf> hi, my ubuntu no longer automounts attached usb-disk like my ipod and an usbstick, whats wrong here?
[09:12] <opopanax> Telroth, do you have a separate boot partition?
[09:13] <PingunZ> Hey, I can't open a .psd file in gimp. I created the psd in photoshop cs2. and I rasterised the text layers .. but still not working
[09:13] <variant> comthre3-Bird: I have seen that on a friends lappy before.. he fixed it but I wasn't there when he did.. dunno what he did
[09:13] <task0> can someone willing to help a newbie pm me...
[09:13] <aleka> tonyyarusso: I did try doing <</tmp/log mymachine@<IP_ADDRESS>:/tmp/log1
[09:13] <aleka> nothing happens.. it just hangs
[09:13] <comthre3-Bird> variant, ooh, its ok,
[09:14] <thug> Hozer that will give rw permission to everyone .. i only want read write permission to one user thats all
[09:14] <PingunZ> !psd
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Telroth> opopanax, i do not have a separate boot partition
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> aleka: Did you actually have that << in there?
[09:15] <aleka> no
[09:15] <hbaigu> PingunZ, see #gimp
[09:15] <PingunZ> hbaigu, tried
[09:15] <Telroth> opopanax, grub was complaining that it couldn't find it's config files when i don't boot off of a floppy (the harddrive has changed positions)
[09:16] <DeltaStorm> Does anyone know how to install/set up wvdial i tried sudo wvdial but i get an message could not find folder /dev/mod...
[09:16] <HymnToLife> you have to reinstall  GRUB then
[09:16] <Telroth> opopanax, i think what I need is to reinstall stage 1 to my mbr
[09:16] <HymnToLife> to match the new partition layout
[09:16] <Telroth> i can't boot the system
[09:16] <Telroth> just a livecd
[09:16] <HymnToLife> !modem | DeltaStorm
[09:16] <ubotu> DeltaStorm: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:16] <Telroth> how would i go about reinstalling grub from a livecd?
[09:16] <HymnToLife> Telroth, a Live CD is enough
[09:16] <HymnToLife> !grub | Telroth
[09:16] <ubotu> Telroth: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <variant> DeltaStorm: run sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
[09:17] <HymnToLife> Telroth, first link
[09:17] <DeltaStorm> Thank you variant!
[09:17] <Telroth> ty HymnToLife, i'll take a look at that
[09:17] <opopanax> deltastorm is back!
[09:17] <variant> DeltaStorm: remember to set up the security files
[09:17] <opopanax> no joy?  i was going to ask you if you'd tried wvdial
[09:17] <mediator> Can anyone tell me the difference between creating a blog and making a new entry?
[09:17] <variant> DeltaStorm: it's so long since i used it..
[09:18] <DeltaStorm> ??
[09:18] <DeltaStorm> i tired everything with pppconfig it doesnt work
[09:18] <variant> DeltaStorm: ah, /etc/secrets/chap-passwords or pap-passwords (This is from very old memories though)
[09:18] <aleka> selam@selam:~$ scp /tmp/log habtamu@<IP_ADDRESS>:/tmp/log1
[09:18] <mediator> whats the difference between creating bog and making new entry?
[09:18] <aleka> it is still hanging doing nothjing
[09:19] <variant> DeltaStorm: thats /etc/chap-secrets
[09:19] <variant> DeltaStorm: or /etc/pap-secrets
[09:19] <variant> DeltaStorm: it depends if your isp uses pap or chap
[09:19] <aleka> tonyyarusso: is there a GUI scp client for ubuntu like winscp?
[09:19] <Loevborg> Has anyone else noticed that feisty is considerably less responsive, at least when using compiz?
[09:20] <variant> DeltaStorm: I beleive most non uk ones use pap but i could be wrong..
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> aleka: Places > Connect to server
[09:20] <variant> Loevborg: I have noticed the opposite.. anyway, feisty talk in #ubuntu+1
[09:20] <DeltaStorm> Thank you very much!  This really is a great community! :)
[09:20] <variant> DeltaStorm: yw
[09:20] <variant> DeltaStorm: most of the time it is :)
[09:21] <variant> aleka: what an odd cocept :P
[09:21] <opopanax> hey, Telroth, have you tried installing grub to hd(1)?
[09:21] <arno`> sup
[09:21] <aleka> tonyyarusso: the default protocol is public ftp, and I don't have an ftpd running on the other machine.. can I use ssh as the protocol?
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> aleka: yep :)
[09:22] <aleka> tonyyarusso: the window disappeared and nothing happened
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> aleka: uh oh!
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> one sec
[09:23] <GionnyBoss> I use to keep my computer always switch on, I have setted power management that turns off the screen after 10 mins. Sometimes, I can't get my computer back to work moving mouse or trying to press keyboard keys. The monitor receives no output, and the only thing I can do is turn off my computer and start it again. Does anyone have the same problem? Do you know how can I resolve it? Do you know if this is a known bug? Please, help
[09:23] <GionnyBoss> me. Thanks
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> aleka: Okay, now look in Places again.  There should be an entry for the IP.  Click that, and you'll get a prompt for password, at which point you'll get connected and a share window will open.
[09:25] <variant> later all
[09:25] <aleka> got it.. :)
[09:25] <rav> hello all... I need help with nvidia drivers.
[09:26] <rav> If I change the driver name to nvidia in xorg.conf and restart X, it will not show me a desktop... my monitor goes to sleep.
[09:26] <rav> so i have to continue to use "nv" as the driver
[09:26] <comthre3-Bird> this dude has the same prob as i do, in the forum Please can you help. I have an HP Pavilion xh575 laptop and am unable to get the live CD to load. All I get is a smokey screen.
[09:26] <aleka> tonyyarusso: Can I ask you another question.. something I have googled, asked about and haven't found an answer for?
[09:26] <quadriko> smokey?
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> aleka: You can sure try!
[09:27] <comthre3-Bird> yeah, a white line on top, then the screen starts getting white,,
[09:27] <rav> the nvidia module is loaded... anyone know why this is happening?
[09:27] <comthre3-Bird> quadriko its kinda creepy
[09:27] <quadriko> scarry
[09:27] <quadriko> do you have atleast 192 mb of ram?
[09:27] <comthre3-Bird> quadriko 512
[09:28] <quadriko> 32 or 64 bit processor?
[09:28] <comthre3-Bird> 32
[09:28] <quadriko> did you make sure to get the 32bit distro?
[09:28] <comthre3-Bird> AMD Athlon 4 1.1 ghz
[09:28] <quadriko> burned or pressed cd?
[09:28] <comthre3-Bird> burned the cd, checked it, without any errors,,
[09:28] <mindstate> trying to run this game daimonin, keep getting a /dev/fb0 error
[09:29] <quadriko> hmm sorry i'm outta ideas
[09:29] <aleka> I am running ubuntu edgy,.. haven't had grahical problems (card:VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:29] <aleka> ).. but since about 3 weeks ago.. when I play movies, {formats like .jpeg,wmv,.mov, dvd) the screen is too bright and I can not see anything. I have tried players like mplayer,totem,xine.. they all play video very bright now and I don know why
[09:29] <comthre3-Bird> i know, i had the same problem with another linux distro, but i forgot what flags i used to make it work,,
[09:29] <aleka> my desktop is fine and viewing pictures is ok.. it is when I try ti play clips that it is too bright withiin the player window
[09:30] <gaspipe1> sup people
[09:30] <comthre3-Bird> to configure the xorg, i press c at the startup screen then xorg -configure?
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> aleka: That is very weird indeed.  Have your searches already included the forums?
[09:31] <gaspipe1> is there an easy way to see what hardware you have?... i would like to know what video card i have... if it's an nvidia
[09:31] <naphelge> i just installed xubuntu & all looks ok except it never prompted me to set root's password & now i can't login as root... any ideas what i might have messed up or forgot?
[09:31] <Telroth> aleka
[09:31] <Telroth> i think this is having to do with hardware video overlays
[09:31] <Telroth> i haven't had the same problem with linux
[09:31] <gaspipe1> !hardware
[09:31] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:32] <aleka> tonyyarusso: I was searching for my video card and linux issues, videocard and brightness isuues on google.. and I couldn't find anything relevant
[09:32] <Telroth> but in windows, i accidentally turned up the gamma while in 3d mode and didn't turn it back down. All my videos that played with hardware overlays (winamp, etc) were super-bright
[09:32] <shrndegruv> folks how do I reinstall some packages?
[09:32] <shrndegruv> sudo apt-get install mypackage
[09:32] <Telroth> apt-get install <package> --reinstall
[09:32] <shrndegruv> tells me its already installed
[09:32] <shrndegruv> i want to reinstall
[09:32] <aleka> Telroth: I haven't had a problem like this while using ubuntu for the past 4 months.. haven't changed a thing in my hardware and now I have this problem
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> aleka: I'd suggest trying ubuntuforums.org, and if that doesn't work, the mailing list (ubuntu-users, see lists.ubuntu.com).  You'll probably have to find someone with the same card :(
[09:33] <Giant_sea_turtle> can sombody look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347618 please.
[09:33] <shrndegruv> thanx tel
[09:33] <shrndegruv> that doesnt seem to be in the apt-get man page
[09:34] <Ciaus> in synaptic manager it says i have a package installed( wpasupplicant) but i can t figure out how to configure the wpa on my wireless laptop
[09:34] <shrndegruv> now will that reinstall all deps?
[09:34] <Ciaus> help
[09:34] <shrndegruv> oh it is in the man page
[09:34] <shrndegruv> am dumb
[09:34] <shrndegruv> so will it reinstall all the dependencies?
[09:34] <kelsin> Ciaus: might want to look into the network-manager-gnome package, it helps with wpasupplicant config, I don't have experience using it with wpa (only open and wep encryption)
[09:35] <Ciaus> k
[09:35] <variant> naphelge: ubuntu doesn't use the root password
[09:35] <EnsignRedshirt> What software would I use if I want to login into one computer from another via the serial ports (using a "null-modem" RS232 cable)?
[09:35] <variant> naphelge: use sudo -i to become root instead (enter your users passwrod)
[09:35] <gaspipe1> i guess system/administration/devise manager would work....lol
[09:35] <kelsin> Ciaus: but it provides a mac-like gnome-panel applet that auto connects to wired, or wireless ports and saves your settings in the gnome-keyring
[09:36] <variant> EnsignRedshirt: there is a gnome app that does that.. i forget it's name though
[09:36] <estudiante> toctoc
[09:36] <variant> EnsignRedshirt: gtkterm it's called
[09:36] <shasan> howdy, i'm getting an error 17 (unable to mount partition) from grub when i try to boot into my ubuntu partition. any ideas?
[09:36] <Giant_sea_turtle> how do source modify stated here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347618
[09:36] <variant> EnsignRedshirt: simmilar to hyperterminal on windows but much better design
[09:37] <EnsignRedshirt> variant: I'll take a look.  One problem is that one of the computers is a very old laptop running an old version of linux.
[09:37] <variant> EnsignRedshirt: ersion of linux. [21:49]  [variant(+ei) (zZzZ
[09:37] <variant> EnsignRedshirt: thats the client..
[09:37] <Senesence> Is there any way that I can login as a different user through OpenSSH that comes standard on Ubuntu, without creating a new account?
[09:38] <shasan> any thoughts on the above mentioned error from grub?
[09:38] <Pirate-king> anybody got ippoder here?
[09:38] <kitche> Senesence: Ubuntu needs to have that username that you want to connect as
[09:39] <Senesence> kitche: You mean there is no way for me to specify "use this user name to log in" ?
[09:39] <Simba_>
[09:39] <Ciaus> kelsin, I selected and installed the package, how do i access it
[09:39] <beuno> Senesence, yes,    ssh host -l username
[09:40] <kitche> Senesence: ssh <user>@<host>
[09:40] <EnsignRedshirt> variant: Do you know if I have to do anything on the server end to make it work?
[09:40] <kitche> Senesence: the machine your connecting to needs that user on it though
[09:41] <kitche> beuno: it's just easier to do <user>@<host>
[09:41] <Senesence> beuno: Thanks that did the trick.
[09:41] <shasan> i'm getting an error 17 (unable to mount partition) from grub when i try to boot into my ubuntu partition. any suggestions?
[09:41] <EnsignRedshirt> Senesence: ssh username@host
[09:41] <Senesence> Thanks everyone
[09:41] <beuno> kitche, 1 character less,   :p
[09:41] <beuno> Senesence, np
[09:42] <Misho2> hello
[09:42] <ineluki12> hello
[09:42] <Misho2> How are you ineluk12?
[09:42] <shasan> can anyone help me out with the problem i am having with grub?
[09:43] <ineluki12> nb, you
[09:43] <shatrat> !anyone
[09:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:43] <Misho2> ineluk12 there's no beer left
[09:43] <shasan> i'm getting an error 17 (unable to mount partition) from grub when i try to boot into my ubuntu partition. any ideas?
[09:43] <ineluki12> :)
[09:44] <ineluki12> shasan, how is your root partition specified in menu.lst
[09:44] <shasan> ineluki12, checking
[09:45] <comp1le> whats the name for the package with all the compile tools ?
[09:45] <kelsin> Ciaus: you can run "nm-applet &" in a terminal for now, it should start next time you start Gnome also
[09:45] <ineluki12> compile: build-essential
[09:45] <comp1le> thanks ineluki12
[09:45] <kelsin> Ciaus: anything past that lookup Network-Manager in the forums and wiki, there are how-tos
[09:45] <ineluki12> np
[09:46] <shasan> ineluki, it says the file can't be found
[09:46] <nofxx> Hello there!  I'm gonna use 2 machines without HD to boot thu the lan with my ubuntu server. This server, is better to get the desktop or the server ubuntu version?
[09:46] <Ciaus> kelsin, thx
[09:46] <Chest> is there a plugin for beryl that imitates the Mac OSX style application bar?
[09:46] <ineluki12> shasan: are you looking in /boot/grub
[09:47] <shrndegruv> anyone use conky?
[09:47] <shasan> ineluki, there is no /grub under /boot
[09:48] <devnore> jikes... that is a lot of ppl... :)
[09:48] <ineluki12> that's bad
[09:48] <section31> how do i mount another partition in ubuntu
[09:48] <fbc> how can I get ubuntu to recognize my keyboard?? It's not USB, just regular PS\2. I've already tried other keyboards.
[09:48] <ineluki12> what do you get when you "ls /boot"?
[09:49] <devnore> fbc: PS/2 keyboards should be recogniced by the kernel
[09:49] <shasan> ineluki: abi-2.6.17-10-generic     System.map-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:49] <shasan> config-2.6.17-10-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:49] <shasan> memtest86+.bin
[09:49] <ineluki12> someone please tell me why I have two wireless interfaces (ath0, wifi0). I realize it's b/c of my atheros chipset and madwifi driver, but I can't find the 'why'; been googling for a while, and madwifi.org isn't responding
[09:49] <kitche> fbc: does your keyboard work in the shell just not in X?
[09:49] <fbc> devnore:  it doesn't
[09:50] <fbc> kitche:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my keyboard stops working after ubuntu boots... I can press DEL and get into setup during boot, and do other stuff, but as soon as I boot the ubuntu 6.10 CD it stops working..
[09:50] <ineluki12> shasan, my guess is that either your bootloader is missing or you installed it on another partition
[09:51] <devnore> fbc: sounds like a bios issue
[09:51] <fbc> devnore:  Yep, but how do I get around it_
[09:51] <ineluki12> shasan: did the problem occur recently, or is this a new install
[09:51] <shasan> ineluki, this is a new install onto an external usb hard drive
[09:51] <devnore> fbc: found anything in bios that points to keyboard USB being on?
[09:52] <devnore> fbc: if it is, disable it and try again
[09:52] <fbc> devnore:  Yep, but I disabled it. Just in case, but it still won't recognize the keyboard.
[09:52] <devnore> fbc: and it recognices other keyboards?
[09:53] <vleon>  i have a question, i build a newer pack of wormux than the pack availble in the apt-get, is there a way to upload it somewhere, or something, so that newbs like me could download and update the game without having to build it?
[09:53] <ineluki12> hm, I'm not too familiar with usb setups
[09:53] <kitche> vleon: just upload it to a webspace
[09:53] <konam> someone knows an antivirus on linux that scan for virus in an windows partition?
[09:53] <devnore> vleon: add it to a webbsite and refer noobs to it
[09:53] <fbc> devnore:  Nope, no other keyboards are recognized, I don't have a USB keyboard to test with either..
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> !noob | devnore
[09:54] <ubotu> devnore: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:54] <vleon> yeah i could do that
[09:54] <devnore> fbc: sounds like the ps/2 is damaged
[09:54] <fbc> devnore:  Why does it work for configuring the bios and whatnot.
[09:55] <shasan> ineluki, i had it working earlier, but the problem was that i couldn't boot into my windows partition unless my usb drive was plugged in (problem since i'm on a laptop). grub would give me an error 21 if i installed it on the mbr of my internal drive, so i've tried to install it on the ubuntu partition of my external
[09:55] <vleon> anyway cant it be somehow donated as an official replacment, i mean how does things work in ubuntu?, like there are some apps that are always updated and some are not
[09:55] <angus_> Can anyone help with dual monitors using xinerama? (editing the xorg.conf file)
[09:56] <kitche> vleon: packages versions are frozen only updates gets added to the packages for a version that is in a release
[09:56] <Flannel> vleon: each package in ubuntu is version frozen each release.  Only getting bugfixes and security updates for the whole lifetime of the release.  This is why, for instance, Dapper will never have FF2
[09:56] <fbc> Does anyone know what a normal ps/2 keyboard would work fine except with ubuntu?
[09:56] <devnore> fbc: that's what's puzzeling me... :S
[09:57] <kitche> fbc: I would try the alternate cd just to make sure
[09:57] <Flannel> fbc: You sure it's in the keyboard port, and not the mouse port?
[09:57] <ineluki12> shasan, are you trying to boot from the external or internal?
[09:57] <vleon> im confused, do you want to tell me that people that use add/remove to install their software are doomed to always have outdated software enless amore dated one will be included in the next ubuntu release?
[09:57] <fbc> Flannel:  Yup..
[09:58] <shasan> ineluki, external
[09:58] <fbc> Thanks guys... I'll try diabling things in the BIOS to see what works...
[09:58] <Flannel> vleon: Updated ones are always included in new releases.  And yes, that's how the repositories work, regardless of Add/remove or apt-get or Synaptic, or whatever
[09:58] <EnsignRedshirt> fbc: This is probably pointless, but I might try unplugging all other devices, just to test.
[09:58] <gaspipe1> how can I update my video drivers?
[09:58] <angus_> Has anyone got dual monitors working in xinerama? (I have tried all sorts of tutorials, but I cannot get it to work).
[09:58] <devnore> fbc: try reseting the bios to default settings
[09:58] <kitche> gaspipe1: which video card?
[09:58] <Flannel> !xinerama | angus_, tried this one?
[09:58] <ubotu> angus_, tried this one?: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:59] <sdac_1x> anyone know how to mount a usb flash drive in a terminal ?
[09:59] <gaspipe1> kitche: nvidia nv34 Geforce FX5200
[09:59] <aleka> not to flame anyone or anything.. I am on ubuntu now.. and have a seocnd pc with debian.. can anyone tell me of a repository that contains ntfs-3g?
[09:59] <sdac_1x> mount /dev/sdb and sda would not work
[09:59] <ineluki12> shasan: so, you have windows insalled on your internal drive, and ubuntu installed on your external? you tried to install grub on the internal, but it errorred so you installed it on the external? do I have this right?
[10:00] <devnore> sdac_1x: mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/point
[10:00] <vleon> Flannel: im sorry but isnt that stupid? lots of apps are very important like wine, every update can make a difference..... why is it like that?
[10:00] <kitche> gaspipe1: compile the drivers yourself only way really there is a repo also not sure if it's upto date or not
[10:00] <shasan> ineluki, correct
[10:00] <kitche> !nvidia9|gaspipe1
[10:00] <ubotu> gaspipe1: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:00] <Pirate-king> is there anybody who can help me get twit diggnation podcasts in ipodder
[10:00] <shmeelAway> if i set up a vdmk file and set aside 5 GB of space on it, then didn't set up a virtual machine, what will that file do? can I still use those 5 GB or do i need to delete the fire?
[10:00] <sdac_1x> devnore:  is it always sda ?  because i have my partitions mounted on sda1 sda2 and so on
[10:00] <devnore> sdac_1x: OKOK
[10:01] <devnore> ops... caps
[10:01] <gaspipe1> kitche: ok thanx for the help
[10:01] <Flannel> vleon: no it's not stupid.  It makes it so that we can make sure that the versions that are in the repositories all work, and with each other.  People who fix stuff don't have a moving target.
[10:01] <devnore> sdac_1x: can differ on what port you use... (i think)
[10:01] <ineluki12> shasan: either os boots when the external is connected, but you're having trouble booting to windows when the external isn't connected? is this the issue?
[10:01] <xerophyte> how can i configure the logrotate to rotate every 3 days ??
[10:01] <kitche> shmeelAway: depends how you made the file you can eiher give the file full space or have it expand when needed when you create the virtual machine
[10:01] <devnore> sdac_1x: try a dmesg when u have connected the USB-stick
[10:02] <devnore> and se what device is is
[10:02] <shmeelAway> i used
[10:02] <vleon> Flannel ok i see there are pros and cones
[10:02] <shasan> ineluki, actually i resolved that one ;) the issue now is that ubuntu will not boot period when the drive is connected (and obviously when it is not)
[10:02] <shmeelAway>  qemu-img create -f vmdk WindowsXPPro.vmdk
[10:02] <ineluki12> anyone: for what purpose does the driver for the atheros chipeset wireless cards create two interfaces (ath0 & wifi0). Really having trouble finding the answer to this...
[10:02] <sdac_1x> just "dmesg" terminal
[10:02] <shmeelAway> that command to set it up
[10:03] <kitche> shmeelAway: hmm that might make it use full space never used qemu to make vmdk's
[10:03] <Navigator> @@
[10:03] <shmeelAway> any clue how to delete it then?
[10:03] <shmeelAway> -.-
[10:03] <sdac_1x> where can i find guides on backing up xubuntu and xfce settings.  so you don't have to do all the work again after doing re-installs
[10:03] <kitche> shmeelAway: just delete it as normal I tend to make vmdk by hand :)
[10:04] <vleon> Flannel but why not make an option wich allowes users to update software they want but with the warning that it may make the system fail or something?
[10:04] <shmeelAway> hm
[10:04] <shmeelAway> k
[10:04] <ineluki12> shasan: which drive is your system booting from?
[10:04] <shmeelAway> so tossing it into the trash bin would do it?
[10:04] <sdac_1x> google search hasn't been very useful on this.  is it trivial to backup linux settings ?
[10:04] <gaspipe1> kitche: i saw the link you sent me... i ran it in termanal... and thats it? it's all done?
[10:04] <kitche> shmeelAway: yeah well that will put it in trash then you have to empty it
[10:04] <BigToe> Where is the default pisg.cfg located in ubuntu?
[10:04] <shasan> ineluki, it is booting from the internal drive (but i am running on the ubuntu live cd right now)
[10:04] <shmeelAway> kk thx
[10:05] <section31> can i mount a reiser4 partition onto ubuntu..it doesn't work
[10:05] <kitche> gaspipe1: if you added that repo to your source.list you have to sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:05] <ineluki12> shasan: when you boot to the internal, are you getting a grub menu, and then selecting ubuntu?
[10:06] <Fred_G> Hi! How can I add a 40GB free partition (hda-1) to a 20 GB (hda1) one?
[10:06] <luckyone> anyone in here know anything about sane or xsane?
[10:06] <luckyone> I am having this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299347&page=2
[10:06] <aleka> Would an ubuntu repository work for debian?
[10:06] <BigToe> Where is the default pisg.cfg located in ubuntu?
[10:06] <gaspipe1> kitche: should i reboot?
[10:07] <shasan> ineluki, no, it goes strait into windows. my bios allows me to interrupt startup to pick a different drive to boot into
[10:07] <HymnToLife> aleka, no
[10:07] <pr0t0type> hi i got probs with synaptic :( I downloaded a .deb file that froze in half installation and now my synaptic doesn't work. Want's to download the .deb and cant do ...
[10:07] <HymnToLife> and the other way around wouldn't work, either
[10:07] <kitche> gaspipe1: after you install the nvidia-glx you might have to I do for some reason for the module to work for some reason
[10:07] <gaspipe1> kitche: ok cool.... thanks so much.. hope i didn't break anything ;)
[10:08] <aleka> HymnToLife: I am setting up a debian machine for a friend (ubuntu/Xubuntu wouldn't work because of his old hardware) and i am trying to get mp3 support, w32codecs and things like that.. but have no idea about debian repos or where to get extra repos.. google s not helping so far..
[10:08] <BigToe> !pisg
[10:08] <ubotu> pisg: Perl IRC Statistics Generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.68-1 (edgy), package size 208 kB, installed size 976 kB
[10:08] <HymnToLife> aleka, you won't need many extra repos in Debian
[10:08] <HymnToLife> the main repo has it all
[10:08] <comthre3-Bird> :(
[10:08] <HymnToLife> but youshould ask in #debian
[10:08] <comthre3-Bird> realy wish someone could help me with this :(
[10:09] <aleka> HymnToLife: I just tried getting ntfs-3g and it didn't have it
[10:09] <kitche> aleka: debian also has universe and multiverse repos but yes #debian is better then here
[10:09] <HymnToLife> kitche, no, there are no universe and multiverse in Debian !
[10:09] <ineluki12> shasan: if your installations are completely seperate as they appear to be, and you're using your BIOS to switch OSes, then it really just sounds like your bootloader is missing on your external drive; I have no idea why this would happen though
[10:09] <camerong> hey can anyone please help me get fglrx set up? i get an error that the wiki says means i need to disable COMPOSITE but i have it disabled..?
[10:09] <kitche> aleka: 3.1 is way out of date 4.0 (unstable) is more up to date
[10:09] <HymnToLife> wrong again, 4.0 is testing, not unstable
[10:10] <troll> heyyy
[10:10] <aleka> heh.. I am in #debian in irc.debian.org.. no responses.. is this the same room here as well?
[10:10] <shmeelAway> also, when i use the suspend function, my computer can't start again, is that fixable?
[10:10] <HymnToLife> aleka, yes, there is a #debian on freenode too
[10:10] <shasan> ineluki: bootloader being grub?
[10:10] <sivik> shasan, yes
[10:10] <shasan> so i need to reload grub onto my external drive then, correct?
[10:10] <ineluki12> most likely; i don't believe ubuntu supports lilo
[10:11] <sdac_1x> sun
[10:11] <HymnToLife> ineluki12, why wouldn't it ?
[10:11] <ineluki12> correct
[10:11] <HymnToLife> !info lilo
[10:11] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[10:11] <ineluki12> chose the wrong word
[10:11] <jim73> hello, can somebody help me with an error 17 from grub?
[10:11] <devnore> jim73: googled it?
[10:11] <ineluki12> i didn't mean 'supports'; i meant there's not an option at standard installation
[10:12] <jim73> yes, I couldn't find anything helpful from google or the forums
[10:12] <shasan> ok then, so i'm going to go into grub and i guess do setup (hd1,1), right?
[10:12] <Klipsch> hi
[10:13] <Klipsch> is there a way to install ubuntu just like gentoo using ssh remotly?
[10:13] <eggs> anyone arround ?
[10:13] <ineluki12> shasan: if you're booting into the external drive, I believe the first partion on that drive would then be (hd0,0), not (hd1,1)
[10:13] <shmeelAway> also, when i use the suspend function, my computer can't start again, is that fixable?
[10:14] <ineluki12> i believe the number are relative to your booted drive
[10:14] <AndrewB> !seen ailean
[10:14] <khoa> ailean<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen Thu Jan 11 09:32:37 2007 quiting the network
[10:14] <ubotu> I haven't seen ailean recently
[10:14] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm odd how testing and unstable is called 4.0 I just checked both of their base packages
[10:14] <shasan> ineluki, ok, i have another partition on that drive though so i think it is hd1... i'll check on that though
[10:14] <Creedence> hi everyone
[10:14] <eodcho1> Anyone know any good usb network adapters that work out of the box with ubuntu?
[10:15] <kitche> HymnToLife: but I know what you mean since testing is for the next release of debian
[10:15] <Weems> how do I clear dns cache?
[10:15] <Creedence> I am having problems getting fglrx to work correctly with an X300 on an IBM T43
[10:15] <ineluki12> alrighty; you might also consider resizing your windows partition so that you can squeeze a boot partition onto your internal drive; might simplify things a little ; might not
[10:16] <shasan> ineluki, i could do that with gparted?
[10:16] <ineluki12> shasan: ya, but be sure to backup first
[10:16] <wim> hi xtknight - still here? ;-)
[10:16] <xtknight> wim, yup
[10:16] <HymnToLife> and run a defrag in Windows
[10:17] <Zeram> hi people
[10:17] <shasan> ineluki, do you think it would be simpler just to delete my existing ubuntu partition and reinstall?
[10:17] <shasan> would that fix anything?
[10:17] <Mazin> What is "scrollkeeper-up"? It's eating all my cpu
[10:17] <Zeram> can you help me with gnome? i am a novice in linux
[10:17] <KrashKing405> can I get some help dualbooting ubuntu with XP?
[10:17] <Mazin> !scrollkeeper-up
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrollkeeper-up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <xtknight> !scrollkeeper | Mazin
[10:17] <ubotu> scrollkeeper: A free electronic cataloging system for documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.14-11ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 181 kB, installed size 3768 kB
[10:17] <shatrat> !anyone|zeram
[10:17] <ubotu> zeram: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:17] <devnore> what is the command to check dma settings on hdd (forgot) :S
[10:18] <wim> xtknight: quick question mate, 3D was working fine, then I went and installed xgl xorg server and beryl...and without even running that now, I don't get 3D rendering anymore...
[10:18] <ineluki12> shasan: if it's a new installation to begin with, it might be easier; if I were you, though, I'd take that internal out before I did it, just to prevent mistakes
[10:18] <xtknight> devnore, sudo hdparm -d /dev/blockdevice
[10:18] <Mazin> KrashKing405: what do you need help with?
[10:18] <ineluki12> that is, if you want to perform the switching from the bios
[10:18] <xtknight> wim, using AIGLX or XGL?
[10:18] <xtknight> wim, you need to use AIGLX for direct rendering.  xgl does not support it
[10:18] <shasan> ineluki, ok, sounds good. off to try that out... thanks for your help
[10:18] <KrashKing405> Mazin: for some reason the boot is stallin
[10:18] <KrashKing405> stalling
[10:18] <ineluki12> np, good luck
[10:18] <Mazin> hmm
[10:19] <wim> xtknight ...xgl doesn't support it on ATI you mean?
[10:19] <kitche> wim: if you have ATI card don't bother with AIGLX
[10:19] <xtknight> wim, nor nvidia.  XGL is an X server replacement.
[10:19] <Mazin> KrashKing405: try using the (recovery) kernel when booting and see what the kernel says
[10:19] <kitche> wim: unless you use the open source driver
[10:19] <eodcho1> anyone know a wireless usb network adapter that will work out of the box?
[10:19] <Zeram> how can i turn off animation in gnome?
[10:19] <xtknight> wim, nvidia has builtin support for compositing . not sure about ati
[10:19] <KrashKing405> have not installed anything yet
[10:19] <wim> kitche - so what do you suggest? XGL?
[10:20] <wim> xtknight - ok, so what do I do now?
[10:20] <kitche> wim: XGL is needed for ATI cards to use beryl or compiz with binary driver that is
[10:20] <xtknight> aiglx cant work with ati?
[10:20] <wim> kitche - that's exactly what I'm after
[10:20] <shatrat> xtknight, its more like ATI wont work with AIGLX
[10:21] <meda> how do I find out the path to a command?  (like  rails.. how do I find out where it is installed?)
[10:21] <Mazin> KrashKing405: maybe try safe graphics mode when booting the live cd?
[10:21] <xtknight> shatrat, i thought aiglx only worked on ati to begin with..now it doesnt work on ati? :P
[10:21] <KrashKing405> tried
[10:21] <shasan> ineluki, actually, one more thing, how do i know what number hard drive /dev/sdb2 corresponds to (i.e., hd1,1 or hd0,2 or??)
[10:21] <aleka> HOw can I kill a process if I have the pid? (using kill or killall)?
[10:21] <shatrat> xtknight, its nvidia that makes the good drivers.
[10:21] <kitche> xtknight: open source drivers it can
[10:21] <xtknight> aleka, sudo kill pid
[10:21] <ineluki12> anyone: for what purpose does the driver for the atheros chipeset wireless cards create two interfaces (ath0 & wifi0). I'm trying to create my own rules in iptables instead of through firestarter, and I'd like to know if there anything special I need to do with the extra fake \interface
[10:21] <wim> ok - but the requirement is to have 3D rendering working first, right?
[10:21] <KrashKing405> dumps me to non gui command promp
[10:21] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here has got a X700 laptop chipset to work with dri on xorg?
[10:21] <KrashKing405> prompt
[10:21] <shatrat> Zeram, if you cant find the settings you want in the preference tab, you might check gconf-editor and see if you can disable whatever is bothering you.
[10:21] <wim> which I did have...but disappeared after installing XGL and Beryl...
[10:21] <xtknight> so wim's asking if there's any way to enable compositing and have direct rendering / 3d accel at the same time.
[10:21] <xtknight> (with an ATI card)
[10:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Any ideas why/what in Edgy could be resetting the system and hardware clocks to Jan 20th every time the system starts, even though I've disabled the hwclock init scripts?
[10:22] <Mazin> KrashKing405: you could try using the alternate CD for install I think...
[10:22] <xtknight> i didn't think the open source drivers had shader/3d accel support
[10:22] <Zeram> sudo gpedit gconf?
[10:22] <shatrat> Intangir, motherboard battery likely os toast
[10:22] <section31> when i mount a partition to a particular directorya nd then i reboot...it goes away.  Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[10:22] <kitche> xtknight: wim: don't think ati cards like xorg compositing either not sure though
[10:22] <meda> anyone? how do I found out where a programm is installed?
[10:22] <wim> xtknight - I thought 3D rendering needs to be in place before trying to install XGL and Beryl etc...
[10:22] <Mazin> KrashKing405: I had a laptop that refused to boot the live cd until I chose 1024x768 resolution at the boot menu
[10:22] <xtknight> meda, whereis 'program name'
[10:22] <KrashKing405> Mazin: hmmm, got the cd from ShipIt
[10:23] <kitche> xtknight: open source drivers work with aiglx for that stuff at least from the fedora aiglx wiki page
[10:23] <shatrat> meda, try "locate" to find files with a certain word in them, or "which" to find paths to executables
[10:23] <ineluki12> section31: if you want a partition to be there after rebooting, you need to make an entry in /etc/fstab
[10:23] <xtknight> wim, right but xgl takes over and disables direct rendering.  not sure how or why
[10:23] <section31> ineluki12,the few tutorials i've seen said nothing about that :(
[10:23] <meda> xtknight, shatrat.. thanks, but what if I find more than 1 result?
[10:23] <section31> thanks, i'll figure it out
[10:23] <Stormx2> Does anyone here us gnumeric?
[10:23] <wim> OK - xtknight, I see
[10:23] <xtknight> meda, then the binaries exist in multiple places.  is there a specific instance?
[10:24] <Jamh> Zeram, just type gconf-editor into the terminal
[10:24] <ineluki12> section21: then you're reading the wrong tutorials :P
[10:24] <kelsin> meda: dpkg -L <package-name> will list all files of that package
[10:24] <meda> xtknight  a specific instance? what do you mean?
[10:24] <fbc> devnore:  I started diabling crap and the keyboard started to work.. I'm gonna start turning things on again in stages to see where it get hung up...
[10:24] <shatrat> meda, there should only be one result for "which" but theres probably gonna be tons for "locate", "locate string" will find every file with "string" in the path name
[10:24] <meda> shatrat, there are 3 results for " which" ..
[10:24] <xtknight> meda, umm...is there a specific case that you need to know where the program is i mean?
[10:24] <xtknight> meda, which program is returning three locations?
[10:24] <shatrat> meda, keep in mind if youre looking for configs for a program they are probably in your home directory with a . in front of the filename
[10:25] <meda> xtknight.. well, I installed  rails (ruby on rails).. and I need to know the path to set in a code editor
[10:25] <Stormx2> My version of gnumeric only has like 4 functions! Can anyone help?
[10:25] <ineluki12> section31: open up a terminal and enter 'man fstab'; this will explain what you need to do; also, take a look at your current /etc/fstab file, and try to mimmick one of the other, similar entries
[10:25] <xtknight> meda, ok.  im not famiilar with ruby.  you installed a ruby compiler or interpreter i assume and you need to point the code editor to that?
[10:26] <shasan> anyone: what is the relationship between /dev/sdb and hd0,2; how do i find out what the hd number and partition number of a disk is?
[10:26] <meda> xtknight: exactly
[10:26] <xtknight> meda, do you have the name of the ruby interpreter package
[10:26] <meda> xtknight: that's the thing.. it's not a package
[10:26] <xtknight> meda, alright, where did you get it from and in what format?
[10:27] <Zeram> thx a lot... great instrument... studing
[10:27] <xtknight> meda, it is usually in the documentation where the binary is located.  otherwise, binaries are typically located in a "bin" (binary) dir, and most don't have any extension on the filename if they're executable.
[10:27] <kitche> meda: /usr/bin/ruby
[10:27] <devnore> fbc: sweet
[10:27] <xtknight> meda, it should be called something generic like ruby or ruby-interpreter
[10:27] <meda> ah..
[10:27] <Stormx2> bah :(
[10:28] <section31> anyone know how i can disable the pc speaker
[10:28] <kitche> meda: that is jsut for the binary but rails works on it's own with a webserver type of setup
[10:28] <wim> xtknight: surely my normal gnome session shouldn't be affected and should still have 3D rendering enabled....
[10:28] <KrashKing405> section31: pull it from the mobo header? ;)
[10:28] <meda> kitche, yeah that makes sense
[10:28] <meda> thanks
[10:28] <xtknight> wim, not if xgl is starting
[10:28] <meda> and xtknight: thanks as well
[10:28] <xtknight> wim, you just blocked compiz from starting i assume
[10:29] <wim> xtknight: correct, I've just added an Xgl session, as to not screw up my existing gnome one
[10:29] <section31> KrashKing405,i didn't mean disable it completely..just disable the os from using it
[10:29] <section31> it's driving me nuts
[10:29] <xtknight> wim, what is running now?  X or Xgl binary?
[10:29] <xtknight> wim, ps ax | grep X
[10:29] <wim> xtknight: but no 3D rendering again...(running X now)
[10:30] <xtknight> wim, you might need to disable compositing support in xorg.conf to get 3d rendering again
[10:30] <wim> xtknight - did that, no luck
[10:30] <Jamh> section31, system -> preferences -> sound and then the system beep tab should do it
[10:30] <section31> Jamh,thanks
[10:30] <xtknight> wim, so /bin/X is running (not /bin/Xgl), yet direct rendering says disabled?
[10:31] <xtknight> wim, was xgl/compiz working correctly ?  not sluggish, did it feel accelerated?  did you have acceleration before installing it?
[10:31] <ineluki12> section31: enter 'sudo -i' then 'rmmod pcspkr' then 'echo "blacklist pcspkr" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'
[10:31] <section31> ineluki12,hehe did it using the gui but thanks anyway
[10:31] <blanky> !mountwindows
[10:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:32] <torrr> how do I get thunderbird?
[10:32] <torrr> apt-get ?
[10:32] <wim> xtknight - I had acceleration before installing it...
[10:32] <xtknight> wim, what is your current OpenGL Renderer String?
[10:32] <torrr> is there a list somewhere of things that can be gotten with apt-get?
[10:32] <comthre3-Bird> can someone tell me how to run ubuntu with a trident cyberbladexp video card?
[10:32] <wim> but after I put Composite "true" in, and then back again (as it didn't work), I didn't have 3D anymore
[10:32] <devilsadvocate> torrr, mozilla-thunderbird
[10:32] <xtknight> torrr, synaptic
[10:33] <Goldmen> Is it possible to copy my windows firefox profile over to firefox on ubuntu?
[10:33] <xtknight> torrr, use synaptic and it will list all available software.  mozilla-thunderbird is for thunderbird
[10:33] <torrr> xtknight: tyepe synaptic on xterm?
[10:33] <wim> xtknight: Mesa
[10:33] <devilsadvocate> torrr, you can search using "apt-cache search <name>"
[10:33] <xtknight> Goldmen, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=windows+firefox+profile+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[10:33] <finalbeta> How do I start a program with a diffrend locale then the system one?
[10:33] <xtknight> wim, is 'fglrx' module loaded?
[10:33] <Goldmen> ty xtknight
[10:34] <xtknight> finalbeta, perhaps something like:   LC_LOCALE=localename program
[10:34] <Mazin> aha, beryl-settings-bindings <IP_ADDRESS> is incompatible with the latest beryl... 0.1.5svn from trevino's repo should be used instead
[10:34] <Mazin> umm.. for later reference
[10:34] <comthre3-Bird> can someone tell me how to run ubuntu with a trident cyberbladexp video card?
[10:34] <wim> xtknight: yep it is - and modprobe fglrx returns nothing
[10:34] <shatrat> comthre3-Bird, never heard of it, who makes the chipset?
[10:34] <devilsadvocate> comthre3-Bird, are you having a problem with the card?
[10:35] <comthre3-Bird> devilsadvocate I have an HP Pavilion xh575 laptop and am unable to get the live CD to load. All I get is a smokey screen.
[10:35] <xtknight> finalbeta, LANG variable actualy.  type 'env' to see all current environment settings.  change what's appropriate
[10:35] <XNIT-01> this is awesome
[10:35] <ineluki12> why does the madwifi drive crate two network interfaces for atheros cards? anyone?  :P
[10:36] <shatrat> comthre3-Bird, that does look like an oddball.  Did you try with the safe graphics settings?
[10:36] <XNIT-01> Gaim is great also :)
[10:36] <devilsadvocate> comthre3-Bird, have you tried booting into the live cd?
[10:36] <comthre3-Bird> shatrat i did, nothing happened there
[10:36] <comthre3-Bird> devilsadvocate yeah