[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> compiz went kinda weird after updating today.  i can't get a cube or wobbly windows.  and while the windows are decorated, i cannot grab them anywhere with the mouse or right click and select move.  they just stay stationary
[12:58] <crimsun> Welcome to Ubuntu Gutsy.  Please enjoy the ride.
[12:59] <ToHellWithGA> gee, thanks crimsun
[12:59] <ToHellWithGA> i just have no idea how to file such a bug
[12:59] <ToHellWithGA> since compiz is, to me, pretty much worthless
[12:59] <ToHellWithGA> just eye candy
[01:00] <crimsun> well, we did just get a new git snapshot
[01:00] <ToHellWithGA> that's cool
[01:00] <dotpavan> ToHellWithGA, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/
[01:01] <ToHellWithGA> gutsy has been (/me looks around) stable enough for me
[01:01] <ToHellWithGA> dotpavan: not in the "how to file a bug" sense so much as "is it worth filing" sense
[01:01] <ToHellWithGA> my bug search fu is weak.  i filed a duplicate for the first time the other day.  but i know how at least
[01:08] <gnomefreak> if you dont file bug report you are relying on other people to and that is not good as most dont care enough to file them so issue doesnt get fixed
[01:09] <ToHellWithGA> very well then gnomefreak.  i'll do a "bug ####" in here so you can double check my work ;)
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ToHellWithGA: i wont be here long and if its compiz merge that is giving you issues than they need to worry about it
[01:26] <ToHellWithGA> gnomefreak: just for sanity's sake, i think i'm going to delete all of my ~/.* so i can be sure it isn't a problem related to my settings
[01:27] <ToHellWithGA> i'd hate to report a bug that is just a result of problems compounding through a dist-upgrade
[01:29] <DanaG> Don't delete,
[01:29] <DanaG> just make a new user.
[01:29] <ToHellWithGA> ooh, good idea
[01:30] <ToHellWithGA> i never even think of users on this machine as i'm the sole user and have autologin enabled
[02:21] <jkimball4> Is anyone else experience poor graphics performance on Intel graphics with all updates installed?
[03:23] <DanaG> Oh, to file the bug about brightness control: what package would I attach it to?
[03:23] <DanaG> It applies to both the kernel and HAL.
[04:25] <Toma-> Is it easy enough to get a scanner added to the udev/libsane.rules
[04:25] <Toma-> ?
[04:26] <shirish> ok guys, any wubi experts here or any irc chat room for wubi specifically somebody knows?
[04:27] <Toma-> isnt wubi a non-official non-gutsy thing?
[04:31] <alex_mayorga> hi, anyone can give a quick diagnose of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/121111
[04:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121111 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Tribe 1 CD don't load on Dell Inspiron 1501" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[04:32] <alex_mayorga> I have the "patient" right in front of me
[04:33] <Toma-> woops
[04:33] <Toma-> try 'nosmp'
[04:33] <shirish> Toma-: dunno, but I might try the same at a friend's place
[04:36] <alex_mayorga> Toma, 'nosmp' for me?
[04:36] <Toma-> yes
[04:36] <alex_mayorga> trying
[04:36] <alex_mayorga> do I keep the 'noapic nolapic' as well?
[04:36] <Toma-> might awell
[04:36] <alex_mayorga> OK, be back in a sec
[04:38] <Toma-> !find librsvg2 gutsy
[04:38] <ubotu> Found: librsvg2-2, librsvg2-bin, librsvg2-common, librsvg2-dev, librsvg2.0-cil (and 2 others)
[04:38] <Toma-> !info librsvg2-2
[04:38] <ubotu> librsvg2-2: SAX-based renderer library for SVG files (runtime). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-2 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 296 kB
[04:38] <Toma-> yay!
[04:38] <shirish> Toma:- actually have a friend who wants to install wubi+ feisty on a windows machine, do you know any specific wubi channel ?
[04:39] <Toma-> shirish: might want to try #debian
[04:39] <shirish> Toma-: wubi is a debian product ?
[04:40] <Toma-> shirish: it began life as a debian insaller
[04:40] <Toma-> wubi forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[04:40] <shirish> Toma: thanx had no idea
[04:41] <Toma-> np
[04:41] <Toma-> wanna fix my scanner? :D
[04:41] <alex_mayorga> Toma, it drop me at an (initramfs) promt now
[04:41] <Toma-> alex_mayorga: wow.
[04:41] <alex_mayorga> do I update the bugger or is this a known thing?
[04:42] <Toma-> alex_mayorga: no idea. Start a bug, and keep adding info to it as you go
[04:42] <Toma-> hopefully someone picks it up on triage
[04:43] <shirish> alex_mayorga: you could write about it in the gutsy development forum
[04:44] <alex_mayorga> shirish, I'll try that as well
[04:46] <shirish> alex_mayorga: if you do file a bug, mention in that post as well
[04:50] <alex_mayorga> shirish, have you seen the same? in that case you might confirm my bug # 121111
[04:51] <shirish> alex_mayorga: sorry I don't have a scanner
[04:51] <Toma-> ...
[04:51] <Toma-> :P
[04:51] <shirish> alex_mayorga: I was merely trying to be helpful
[04:51] <Toma-> i have a scanner... alex_mayorga has a buggy mobo bus
[04:51] <alex_mayorga> thanks to the two of you
[04:51] <Toma-> alex_mayorga: no problem.
[04:51] <Toma-> im out. cyas
[04:53] <alex_mayorga> back to windoze then :(
[04:53] <shirish> alex_mayorga: wish DanaG and/or Sarah Hobbsee was here, they would have been able to help you a lot more
[04:55] <shirish> both are extremely professional people having lot of know-how
[04:55] <shirish> alex_mayorga: perhaps you can check the IRC some other time
[04:55] <shirish> alex_mayorga: you had issue with your scanner or with the mobo ?
[04:55] <BotLobsta> hello
[04:56] <BotLobsta> does anyone know if ctrl-alt-backspace is now supposed to restart your machine instead of restarting X? Or is that a bug?
[04:58] <DanaG> Oh, I'm here but not paying attention.
[04:58] <DanaG> But I haven't used scanners at all.
[04:58] <shirish> ah , the pricess
[04:59] <shirish> the bowing down is japanese style
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> mobo I guess
[04:59] <shirish> although /me is indian
[04:59] <shirish> although /shirish is indian
[04:59] <shirish> :)
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> given the thing wont boot with tribe 1 live CD
[04:59] <shirish> alex_mayorga: which mobo it is?
[05:00] <DanaG> Actually, I'm a guy.
[05:00] <shirish> DanaG: my apologies then
[05:00] <shirish> same here
[05:00] <DanaG> The Input Methods under Linux are cool, but useless if you don't know what you're typing.  :(
[05:00] <shirish> I had seen some nice oldie japanese movies, although with subtitles only
[05:01] <shirish> DanaG: what dou mean DanaG? " The input Methods under Linux are cool, but useless if you don't know what you're typing"
[05:01] <shirish> a generalization or something specific?
[05:02] <DanaG> SCIM Input Method.
[05:02] <DanaG> Oh, and look, a random string of Arabic:
[05:02] <DanaG> eevcveecvcvcve
[05:02] <shirish> wow
[05:02] <DanaG> That was me randomly hitting the keyboard.
[05:02] <shirish> you know arabic ?
[05:03] <DanaG> Nope.
[05:03] <DanaG> Hence "random".
[05:03] <shirish> then how did you get that?
[05:03] <shirish> that's cool
[05:03] <DanaG> What IRC program are you using?
[05:03] <shirish> pidgin
[05:03] <DanaG> If it's something GTK, right-click in the input box and select Input Method -> SCIM Input Method.
[05:04] <DanaG> (oh, you responded while I was typing.)
[05:04] <shirish> ok cool
[05:04] <DanaG> Then select languages.
[05:04] <DanaG> Another cool one: Other:Latex.
[05:04] <alex_mayorga> shirish, I don't know my mobo, trying to revive the laptop to windows and maybe the Dell site would tell me more
[05:05] <DanaG>
[05:05] <shirish> nope, didn't work lemme try again
[05:05] <DanaG> \lll:   \ggg:
[05:06] <shirish> nope not getting anywhere
[05:06] <shirish> alex_mayorga: wish I could help u m8 but no idea about laptops
[05:06] <johnnybuoy> oo!!! '
[05:06] <BotLobsta> i dont have that input option
[05:07] <johnnybuoy> hah, I didn't know that this scim input would make a thing in the pane pop up
[05:07] <johnnybuoy> fun :)
[05:07] <shirish> damn
[05:07] <shirish> all you guys are getting it except me
[05:07] <BotLobsta> and me
[05:08] <shirish> ah atleast I have a neighbour who has the same issue
[05:09] <shirish> DanaG: by any chance it wouldn't be that you have 2.0.2 installed from sources ?
[05:09] <DanaG> Nope, packaged version.
[05:10] <DanaG> Maybe scim isn't installed properly.
[05:10] <DanaG> Look around in synaptic or aptitude.
[05:10] <BotLobsta> anyone know where to report bugs for the x server
[05:11] <BotLobsta> scim wasnt installed at all for me
[05:11] <crimsun> BotLobsta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+filebug
[05:11] <BotLobsta> thanks
[05:12] <shirish> BotLobsta: which pidgin version do you hav
[05:12] <BotLobsta> i dont
[05:12] <BotLobsta> im running xchat
[05:12] <BotLobsta> i looked at pidgin and hated it so i dont upgrade that package
[05:12] <shirish> as DanaG said, look for scim in aptitude
[05:13] <shirish> DanaG: never really knew what scim was all about, now I know
[05:13] <shirish> thanx to you
[05:19] <BotLobsta> anyone know why a sigterm to the x server would cause the entire machine to get a sigterm?
[05:19] <crimsun> "the entire machine"?
[05:20] <songwind> Good evening.
[05:20] <crimsun> songwind: remember, this channel is specific to gutsy.
[05:20] <BotLobsta> as in everything else
[05:20] <BotLobsta> the machine rebooted
[05:21] <crimsun> so sending TERM to X.Org reboots the machine?
[05:22] <BotLobsta> i pressed ctrl-alt-backspace and the machine rebooted
[05:23] <crimsun> and this is using which X driver?
[05:23] <BotLobsta> nvidia
[05:24] <BotLobsta> it appears to reboot X, i get a logon screen, but as soon as i "logon", it crashes
[05:24] <crimsun> BotLobsta: can you reproduce the crash using 'nv' instead of 'nvidia'?
[05:25] <BotLobsta> idk, i havent tried. idk even if my 'nv' drivers work to begin with
[05:27] <BotLobsta> ill try, brb hopefully
[05:34] <BotLobsta> well, that was interesting
[05:35] <BotLobsta> it doesnt do it at all anymore, though ive had it happen to be before
[07:08] <shirish> ubotu google earth
[07:08] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[07:09] <shirish> ubotu Medibuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:09] <shirish> guys can we have medibuntu with gutsy?
[07:11] <Hobbsee> ....
[07:12] <shirish> hi Hobbsee: sorry for the other day
[07:12] <Hobbsee> dude.....
[07:12] <shirish> anyway, what do you think about google earth for gutsy
[07:13] <Hobbsee> i dont think i should even bother commenting - as doing so, i may well break the COC.
[07:14] <shirish> you can always send me a private mail, in case you think I did something with malafide intention
[07:14] <DanaG> despite the fact that it decreases battery life of my iAudio6.
[07:14] <shirish> DanaG: its not for music
[07:14] <shirish> DanaG: I need google earth
[07:15] <DanaG> But I wonder if the nonfree MP3 decoder sounds any different from the default "ugly" one.
[07:15] <shirish> and ubotu says it is only available via medibuntu
[07:15] <shirish> I have had the same question myself, might as well as ask in the forum sometime
[07:15] <shirish> the difference between 'ugly' ones as well as the medibuntu repository
[07:17] <DanaG> My iAudio6 can play WAV, MP3, WMA, Ogg (Vorbis), and FLAC,
[07:17] <Hobbsee> it probably fits multiverse, actually, so the latter question *might* not be so moronic.
[07:17] <DanaG> but ironically, not AAC.
[07:17] <shirish> AAC is some kind of encryption IIRC
[07:17] <DanaG> I mean, even unprotected AAC.
[07:17] <shirish> ah, ok
[07:18] <shirish> like the *might*
[07:19] <Amaranth> AAC is just a codec
[07:19] <Amaranth> you're thinking of FairPlay
[07:19] <DanaG> Or how about the difference between skype and skype-static?
[07:19] <shirish> there is something called skype-static ?
[07:19] <Amaranth> Which is Apple's DRM for their m4a (mpeg4 audio) files which use AAC
[07:20] <DanaG> !info skype-static medibuntu
[07:20] <Amaranth> well, they use the m4p extension for stuff with DRM on it (mpeg 4 protected audio)
[07:20] <ubotu> Package skype-static does not exist in gutsy
[07:20] <shirish> that info needs to be filled in
[07:20] <Amaranth> ubotu only does official ubuntu and seveas' repo
[07:20] <DanaG> Aah.
[07:20] <shirish> aah
[07:21] <DanaG> Hmm, I wonder if I even need w32codecs, if I haven't specifically encountered any issues.
[07:21] <shirish> Amaranth: isn't it possible to add stuff to it, from factoids or that's restricted area?
[07:21] <shirish> ubotu factoids
[07:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:22] <Amaranth> you can't add repos to it
[07:22] <Amaranth> actually you can't add anything to it
[07:22] <shirish> ah ok
[07:22] <Amaranth> editors can add factoids to it, seveas can add repos to it
[07:22] <shirish> seveas ok that's the guy, cool
[07:22] <Amaranth> DanaG: that reads changelogs.ubuntu.com, how would you expect it to work for 3rd party things?
[07:23] <Amaranth> shirish: he isn't going to add medibuntu to it
[07:23] <Amaranth> we're not real big on 3rd party repos
[07:23] <Amaranth> they tend to break things
[07:23] <DanaG> It should be possible to make it look in the root of the repo.
[07:23] <DanaG> For example, parallel to "pool" would be "changelogs".
[07:24] <shirish> Amaranth: true, and I'm going to try medibuntu with gutsy let's see how it plays
[07:24] <Amaranth> meh
[07:25] <DanaG> Hmm, what third-party repos do I use?....
[07:26] <DanaG> Medibuntu,
[07:26] <DanaG> and until moodbar was added, this one: http://cl.naist.jp/~eric-n/ubuntu-nlp
[07:36] <DanaG> But I actually haven't installed any medibuntu stuff now.
[07:38] <Hobbsee> shirish's, not yours
[07:38] <DanaG> aah.
[07:49] <crimsun> Hobbsee: check out https://code.launchpad.net/~motu/asoundconf-ui/trunk :)
[07:49] <crimsun> Hobbsee: I've got shiny PyQt3 and PyQt4 versions there for you.
[07:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: nice... :)
[09:57] <mikkael> can someone help me with nicotine ? it's not working, and there are no responses to launchpas bugs
[09:59] <mikkael> there's the problem: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1291
[01:58] <AnRkey> hi all
[01:59] <AnRkey> i am working on a customized network installer for fiesty and gutsy
[01:59] <AnRkey> where would i change the list of repos shown in the network installer?
[03:09] <IdleOne> !tribe1
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <IdleOne> !tribe
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <virtuelv> any known problems with rt2500-based cards I should be aware of with Tribe 1?
[04:07] <virtuelv> as in "My rt2500 interface just vanished"
[04:29] <Hobbsee> virtuelv: look it up?
[04:31] <virtuelv> searched for a bit, couldn't find anything specific
[06:40] <DanaG> nice: add "purge" commandline argument, closes: #133421)
[06:41] <DanaG> You know what's really fun?  Google Earth under Beryl.
[06:41] <DanaG> All the better to _run out of video RAM with_, my dear.
[06:42] <DanaG> Oh yeah, what is "Solaris Mode" in gnome-system-monitor?
[06:44] <DanaG> Hmm, and I wonder what "    - Use new desktop capplet"  means.
[07:05] <mikkael> nobody seems to take care of nicotine bugs
[07:05] <mikkael> !nicotine
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <jkimball4> Is it a known problem that network-manager-gnome is not compatible with the recent network-manager update?
[07:10] <jkimball4> and Is anyone else experience poor graphics performance on Intel graphics with all updates installed?
[07:15] <DanaG> mikkael: for package info, try !info
[07:15] <DanaG> !info nicotene
[07:15] <ubotu> Package nicotene does not exist in gutsy
[07:15] <DanaG> er, misspelled
[07:15] <mikkael> !info nicotine
[07:15] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 609 kB, installed size 2924 kB
[07:17] <DanaG> Maybe the name scares people -- nicotine--cigarette--ugh.
[07:21] <mikkael> oh i think its attracting people more with this name
[07:21] <mikkael> no seriously, isnt there a single person who maintains that package ?
[08:11] <DanaG> Argh, the Trackballs game just slaughtered Beryl.
[08:14] <DanaG> Oh, and when you hit escape, the key repeats and the game quits.
[08:34] <pwnguin> anyone noticed the gnome power manager being a bit goofy?
[08:35] <pwnguin> it seems they've added application level battery profiling, but i'm not exactly sure how to make it work
[09:04] <corevette> When I tell my system to do a partial upgrade, the update manager just closes
[09:05] <pwnguin> corevette: try running from the command line, it probably crashes
[09:07] <corevette> pwnguin: http://pastebin.com/932079
[09:07] <ibrown> i have a lot of dev work to start doing, i downloaded ubuntu-feisty 64amd, but a lot of the libraries are a bit outdated for what i need... is edgy the release for more developers/bleeding edge and the like?  I'm switching from slackware if that helps.
[09:07] <pwnguin> ...
[09:07] <pwnguin> edgy is two releases ago
[09:07] <pwnguin> feisty is the current release, and gutsy is the new release. it helps sometimes to use numbers
[09:08] <pwnguin> ibrown: you can check packages.ubuntu.com to see if the library versions you want are already in 7.10
[09:09] <pwnguin> corevette: there's an update available that solves this
[09:09] <pwnguin> corevette: apt-get upgrade from the command line and you should be fixed up
[09:11] <ibrown> pwnguin: the glib version is only 2.12.11 which is what i found, i need a higher version of glib.
[09:12] <ibrown> pwnguin: >= 2.4
[09:33] <terlmann> what channel for bugs ?
[09:33] <pwnguin> ibrown: isn't 2.12 bigger than 2.4?
[09:33] <terlmann> ello ?
[09:34] <terlmann> got any fish ?
[09:34] <pwnguin> terlmann: launchpad's the best place to report bugs, since it does a pretty good job of finding dups
[09:34] <terlmann> yea , but this is a big one
[09:34] <terlmann> Instant
[09:34] <corevette> thanks for the help pwnguin earlier, it worked
[09:35] <pwnguin> corevette: np. i just looked at the change log before i upgraded and it mentioned your bugs ;)
[09:35] <ibrown> herm. it would appear as such.
[09:35] <ibrown> maybe i'm just too high and overlooking a pkg-config setting
[09:36] <pwnguin> pkg-config?
[09:40] <pwnguin> ibrown: debian splits out development header files into -dev packages
[09:40] <pwnguin> ibrown: so if you need a specific library included in your app, you'll need the -dev to build against
[09:40] <pwnguin> in glibc's case, i think you just need build-essential, which should pull in most of the common development tools
[09:40] <ibrown> yeah i installed the build-essentials.
[09:40] <ibrown> pwnguin: i'm recreating the build error so i can examine it under a diff angle.


[00:05] <sbraz> sarnold: i'd rather not break it if it works for some users, the dns record isn't going to be removed any time soon but the wildcard certificate won't be valid
[00:06] <sbraz> maybe i should just set the same URL and mention that it is anycast? like https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/mirrors/ which lists leaseweb twice
[00:07] <sarnold> sbraz: aha, cool. does it still respond http? I bet most mirrors still don't do tls, it might be rare for users to configure https
[00:07] <sbraz> sarnold: yes http works and will do so until we remove the alias from our configuration which i don't see happening soon
[00:08] <sarnold> nice nice
[00:08] <sbraz> but if we at least stop mentioning this domain, maybe we will see fewer requests and we'll eventually decide to kill it
[00:09] <sarnold> *nod*
[17:22] <sbraz> sarnold: looks like i can't use the same URL for two mirrors, so I guess we'll have to drop  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net-archive/
[23:55] <sarnold> sbraz: aw, bummer. it was a good idea. I think the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>approach would be best then :)


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[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova-lxd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [14.1.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[08:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-1.8-race-detector-runtime [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.0+svn285455-0ubuntu1]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.8-race-detector-runtime [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [0.0+svn285455-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-1.8-race-detector-runtime [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0+svn285455-0ubuntu1]
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: debichem [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0.6] (no packageset)
[08:35] <acheronuk> apw: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-February/011124.html
[08:36] <acheronuk> debian packagers also confirm that they have no intention to do anything other than we have done
[08:38] <acheronuk> apw: can please accept minuet. that it not epoched and not a split anyway
[08:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 [source] (zesty-proposed) [375.26-0ubuntu1]
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 [i386] (zesty-proposed/none) [375.26-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[08:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [375.26-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[09:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [375.26-0ubuntu1]
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[09:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [375.26-0ubuntu1]
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (xenial-proposed/main) [5.3.5-1ubuntu3 => 5.3.5-1ubuntu3.1] (ubuntu-server)
[10:01] <apw> acheronuk_, this minuet seems to include a sound bank which is under its own licence which is not mentioned in the debiancopyright
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4ui [i386] (zesty-proposed) [4.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:16] <rbasak> Am I still supposed to be releasing SRUs, or are we in a freeze for Xenial?
[10:16] <rbasak> apw: ?
[10:17] <rbasak> Presumably Yakkety is fine though, so I'll carry on there.
[10:22] <apw> rbasak, releasing to -updates in xenial is frozen though if they look pertinant to the release you could ask infinity ... this of course is for seeded things
[10:26] <Laney> isn't it meant to be released tomorrow?
[10:26] <rbasak> OK. Thanks!
[10:31]  * apw reviews the KDE bits in the zesty queue
[10:59] <jbicha> rbasak: please reject gnome-keyring from xenial, yakkety we discussed in #ubuntu-desktop that the current behavior is intentional
[11:06] <rbasak> jbicha: done
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-keyring [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.18.3-0ubuntu2.1]
[11:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-keyring [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.20.0-2ubuntu4.1]
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-biomaj3 [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.0.20-1] (no packageset)
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-cgcloud [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.6.0-1] (no packageset)
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby-os [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.9.6-1] (no packageset)
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[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-unpaddedbase64 [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1.0-3] (no packageset)
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-imageio [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.1.1+ds1-1] (no packageset)
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pybedtools [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.7.8-1] (no packageset)
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pybedtools [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.7.8-1] (no packageset)
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted debichem [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0.6]
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-canonicaljson [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.0-2]
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-biomaj3 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [3.0.20-1]
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-cgcloud [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.6.0-1]
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pybedtools [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.7.8-1]
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-unpaddedbase64 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.1.0-3]
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-imageio [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.1.1+ds1-1]
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-os [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.9.6-1]
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pybedtools [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [0.7.8-1]
[12:11] <sil2100> I just took a look at the gnome-software SRU but hm, I would probably prefer someone with more experience taking a look at it - to me there seemed to be a bit too many undocumented changes, which is probably normal when there's a new snapshot release made
[12:11] <sil2100> Anyway, I'll move on to other entries on the queue
[12:13] <apw> rbasak, sil2100 i think you are both doing SRUs right now, might need to coordinate
[12:15] <sil2100> rbasak: I'm looking at the ubuntu-fan uploads right now - is that ok?
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdialog [source] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kfilereplace [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimagemapeditor [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kommander [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted keditbookmarks [source] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted klinkstatus [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kfind [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted konqueror [source] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:23] <apw> acheronuk_, as per our discussion ... ^^
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected minuet [source] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[12:28] <apw> clivejo acheronuk_, as per our discussion (missing licencing information) ... ^^
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdialog [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: keditbookmarks [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: keditbookmarks [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:28] <sil2100> smb: hey! I commented on the SRU bug for ubuntu-fan - could you update it as per my request in the comment?
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdialog [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdialog [s390x] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kdialog [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/none) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
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[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cairo-5c [i386] (zesty-proposed) [1.10ubuntu1]
[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: konqueror [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: konqueror [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:40] <sil2100> apw: hey! Do you have a moment by any chance for a quick binNEW pre-review? Since we have this rule in Bileto that any packaging change that involves the addition of new binary packages requires an AA +1
[12:41] <sil2100> apw: oxide in Bileto is adding new packages, here's the packaging diff: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-2420/2017-02-07_10:59:27/zesty_oxide-qt_packaging_changes.diff
[12:41] <sil2100> apw: could you take a look if those look ok and give me a sign if you are +1 on adding those?
[12:41] <sil2100> I could then publish the package to zesty
[12:42]  * sil2100 AFK for a bit for lunch
[12:42] <rbasak> sil2100: yeah that's fine
[12:43] <sil2100> \o/ Ok, publishing in that case
[12:43] <sil2100> Thanks!
[12:51] <smb> sil2100, done
[12:52] <tsimonq2> Has infinity disappeared? It's Wednesday and we need stuff added to the tracker.
[12:53] <davmor2> tsimonq2: He is in America dude just ask him later :)
[12:54] <tsimonq2> davmor2: But I'm in America too and I have school all day.
[12:54] <tsimonq2> *shrug*
[12:54] <tsimonq2> It's almost 7 AM and I need to go to school until 3 PM :P
[12:55] <davmor2> tsimonq2: just leave a message for him
[12:55] <tsimonq2> davmor2: That's what I just did. :)
[12:55] <davmor2> tsimonq2: you didn't say what you needed adding ;)
[12:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.0.0+dfsg-2ubuntu1.32]
[12:58] <apw> sil2100, oh you got what you wanted, ok
[13:12] <clivejo> apw: regarding copyright file, that was generated from the KDE copyright statements.  https://cgit.kde.org/minuet.git/tree/COPYING.DOC and https://cgit.kde.org/minuet.git/tree/COPYING
[13:13] <clivejo> and is actually a merge from debian
[13:15] <clivejo> see - https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/applications/minuet.git/tree/debian/copyright
[13:16] <clivejo> apw: ^
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-gffutils [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[13:29] <tsimonq2> davmor2: cc infinity 16.04.2 to iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted keditbookmarks [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
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[13:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdialog [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
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[13:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kdialog [i386] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[13:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-gffutils [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted konqueror [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
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[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ciphersaber [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.01-2ubuntu1]
[13:49] <mapreri> src:file is not migrating due to autpkgtest for lintian failing; that was fixed in the new version of lintian already in release, why isn't it trying it?
[13:49] <apw> mapreri, perhaps it was run before that hit ?
[13:49] <mapreri> apw: -eparse
[13:50] <apw> either the issue remains regardless of the updated lintian, or the test ran before lintian was fixed ?
[13:51] <mapreri> apw: Yes, it ran the test against unfixed lintian.
[13:51] <mapreri> apw: now it should be tried again against the new lintian; doesn't that happen automatically?
[13:51]  * apw hits the retry button
[13:52] <apw> mapreri, it would not happen automatically no
[13:52] <mapreri> Oh, I see.
[13:52] <mapreri> Then next time I'll just either hit the retry button myself, or nag a core-dev like in this case :)
[13:52] <mapreri> Thanks!
[13:52] <apw> asking here is fine
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-os-brick [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu0.2]
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-os-brick [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.6.1-0ubuntu1.1]
[14:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ricochet [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.4+nmu1] (no packageset)
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted flash-kernel [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.0~rc.4ubuntu62.2]
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: minuet (zesty-proposed/primary) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minuet [source] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ricochet [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.4+nmu1]
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[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minuet [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [16.12.1-0ubuntu1]
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[15:36] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I see you seem to be on SRU duty - on the example of bug 1621340 I wanted to clarify - is that version number now burnt or not (stopped at unapproved queue)
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gtk+3.0 (xenial-proposed/main) [3.18.9-1ubuntu3.1 => 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:39] <rbasak> cpaelzer: not burnt. Nothing in the unapproved queue counts for anything like that. But no need to reroll - I just want the answer to help me review the patch.
[15:39] <rbasak> In the bug is fine.
[15:39] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I added the info there
[15:39] <rbasak> Thanks!
[15:39] <cpaelzer> rbasak: but you likely have seen it
[15:40] <cpaelzer> already
[15:40] <rbasak> Oh, sorry.
[15:40] <rbasak> I see it in comment 9. I missed that before.
[15:41] <cpaelzer> I asked for that as well in the past - which is why I was sure it is in there, I just missed that it did not get to the dep3 header
[15:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gst-libav1.0 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.8.3-1ubuntu0.1 => 1.8.3-1ubuntu0.2] (kubuntu)
[15:55] <Laney> ^- regression-update fix
[15:58] <camako> A question for the CI experts : if a silo has already failed in one arch and you know you need to rebuild, do you need to wait until all other archs are done building or can you start a new build without confusing the silo?
[16:01] <Laney> camako: That's fine; the test runs know what they were triggered for
[16:03] <camako> Laney, thanks.. Just to confirm, I can start a build from bileto while a previous build hasn't completed?
[16:05] <Laney> camako: Sure
[16:05] <Laney> If you have tha PPA link then I can cancel the old ones though, to free up the builder
[16:07] <camako> Laney, here's the PPA link : https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2435/+packages
[16:07] <camako> thank you
[16:08] <Laney> ah, they're pretty much done
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-fan [source] (yakkety-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-fan [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.9.2]
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (vivid-proposed/main) [3.19.0-81.89] (core, kernel)
[17:30] <flocculant> tsimonq2: if a milestone is just a fixed daily - then nothing to stop you reporting against the daily
[17:38] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Hm k
[17:39] <flocculant> just a bit of common sense - unless there is going to be some difference between what's available now and tomorrow *shrug*
[17:39] <infinity> There will be, sadly.
[17:40] <infinity> tsimonq2: Things are a tiny bit behind.  Working today on unbehinding.
[17:41] <tsimonq2> infinity: Thanks. :)
[17:41] <tsimonq2> infinity: But are we still looking to release tomorrow? :O
[17:42] <tsimonq2> (asking so I can update testers)
[17:43] <infinity> tsimonq2: I think it's possible that if everything lands today, we could release late tomorrow, like Hawaii time.
[17:43] <infinity> tsimonq2: But we'll have to see how today goes, I guess.
[17:43] <flocculant> infinity: won't get anymore than smoketests from us btw
[17:44] <infinity> Smoke is really what we're looking for.
[17:44] <tsimonq2> infinity: Ok, please keep me updated, I love lots of pings. :P
[17:44] <infinity> All the SRUs in question should have been individually tested anyway, so point release ISO testing is a question of boot/install/reboot, and make sure nothing looked broken in those steps.
[17:44] <flocculant> infinity: heh - we have a specual producing smoke team :)
[17:45] <flocculant> yea - understand that
[17:46] <tsimonq2> infinity: After becoming Lubuntu RM I want to be extra careful, I'll be without training wheels.
[17:46] <tsimonq2> Plus I seriously love lots of pings.
[17:56] <tsimonq2> Ok, I'll be back later, thanks for the ping infinity.
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (xenial-proposed) [9.4ubuntu4.4]
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.8.5-1ubuntu1 => 1.8.5-1ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[20:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine-development (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.9.20-1ubuntu1 => 1.9.20-1ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine1.6 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14 => 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1] (no packageset)
[21:37] <fossfreedom> cyphermox: thanks for pulling in our (Ubuntu Budgie) PR for ubiquity.  Query though - I note you've made a tweak to our PR and now budgie-wm doesnt fallthrough and use gnome-settings daemon. Does the settings daemon control window theming?  if so - it will explain why ubiquity is unthemed http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1486589735.png
[21:38] <cyphermox> that's not unthemed.
[21:38] <cyphermox> maybe not the right stuff but it really looks like there are colors and etc.
[21:40] <jbicha> fossfreedom: that looks like gtk3's default Adwaita theme
[21:40] <cyphermox> fossfreedom: what I did is functionally equivalent to the code you had, unless there's something I'm not seeing?
[21:43] <fossfreedom> jbicha: k - thanks.  hmm - maybe I should have explicitly set arc-theme then :(
[21:44] <fossfreedom> jbicha: GSD controls the mouse cursor that is displayed though - doesnt it?
[21:47] <jbicha> I don't know, there's a gsettings org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-theme
[22:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (xenial-proposed/main) [0.1.0~bzr437-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 0.1.0~bzr460-0ubuntu1~16.04.1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[23:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine-development (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.9.6-1 => 1.9.6-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:18] <fossfreedom> cyphermox: as mentioned in our privmsg - I've proposed this patch for ubiquity to ensure budgie-wm (the window manager) used gnome-settings-daemon https://code.launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/ubiquity/use_gsd_for_budgie/+merge/316787


[09:00] <Fudge> yaili_  prob should specify what you need and see if anyone can help you
[09:19] <yaili_> Fudge: hi, just to have a look at an image
[09:24] <Fudge> yaili_ as in a picture? sorry i cant help with that
[09:25] <yaili_> Fudge: yes, a design
[09:25] <yaili_> no worries
[09:26] <Fudge> okie
[09:38] <Fudge> AlanBell you alive ?
[09:59] <AlanBell> hi Fudge, just about alive here, but drowning in work somewhat :/
[10:09] <Fudge> oh loL AlanBell
[10:17] <Fudge> see pm
[10:35] <Fudge> thanks


[16:47] <eena> hiiii o/~
[16:48] <eena> i'd like to delete the packages i've uploaded here, because i'm recommending people use a repo people have time supporting: https://launchpad.net/~apache-helpdesk/+archive/ubuntu/httpd-ppa
[16:48] <eena> how do i best do that?
[16:50] <cjwatson> eena: https://launchpad.net/~apache-helpdesk/+archive/ubuntu/httpd-ppa/+packages will have a "Delete packages" link at the top right, where you can delete all the packages but leave the PPA; the effect will be that "apt-get update" will succeed for existing users but there'll be nothing in that archive.  Or the page you gave should have a "Delete PPA" link for you in the top right; if you use that then the entire archive will be deleted ...
[16:50] <cjwatson> ... and "apt-get update" will fail for existing users until they remove the archive from their configuration.
[16:50] <cjwatson> Your choice.
[16:50] <cjwatson> If you do the latter, then your helpful message will vanish too.
[16:51] <eena> cjwatson: i'm torn.
[16:51] <cjwatson> So I guess you just want to delete all the individual packages using the "Delete packages" link.
[16:51] <eena> yeah. unless there's a way to display that helpful message in add-apt repo, or in apt-get update
[16:52] <cjwatson> Not AFAIK.
[16:52] <cjwatson> Well, add-apt-repository should already display the repository description.
[16:52] <cjwatson> (But not if the archive is deleted.)
[16:52] <eena> i hope anyone actually reads that.
[17:05] <dobey> well, if you delete the ppa and people try to add-apt-repo it, then they'll get an error message that it doesn't exist


[00:24] <grys> hi :-)
[02:09] <oerheks> 🤪
[12:08] <guiverc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-November/042836.html   (maybe worth reading if you upgraded to 23.10 recently!)
[20:29] <sportywhale> ¡™¡¡
[22:17] <sportywhale> exit


[08:19] <ypwong> could someone please release indicator-china-weather 1.1.0-0ubuntu3 from trusty-proposed?
[09:01] <infinity> ypwong: Done.  It was a bit broken because the .changes file didn't have the bug closure.  I guess the uploader didn't build the source on Ubuntu.
[09:20] <ypwong> infinity, oh..
[09:20] <ypwong> infinity, thanks
[15:51] <tedg> We're adding a feature to UAL to make dealing with Mir trusted prompt sessions easier.
[15:51] <tedg> Which unfortunately makes libubuntu-app-launch dependent on libmir
[15:52] <tedg> Which has the result of making it so that libual can't build on ppc or ppc64
[15:52] <tedg> So, I need some help deleting binaries for libual and anything that depends on it for those architectures.
[19:15] <tedg> infinity, Perhaps are you around? ^
[19:17] <infinity> tedg: That looks like quite a mess to untangle on a day off.
[19:25] <tedg> infinity, Heh, yes.
[19:25] <tedg> For the record, I have gotten a card on the MIr backlog to fix the PPC issue.
[19:25] <tedg> But trying to get silos landed in the mean time.
[19:29] <infinity> tedg: I was just about to try a PPC build to see what "the issue" is.  It's been going on more than long enough.
[19:30] <infinity> tedg: Anyhow, I'm on VAC until tomorrow.  If it can wait until then, I'll help you tidy up.  If it can't, I'm sure you can hunt someone else down to try to unwind the mess.
[19:30] <tedg> infinity, I think the issue is something with Mesa and the test suite, I've suggested the test suite passing isn't as important as getting a build.
[19:32] <infinity> tedg: My plan was to cargo-cult exactly the same hacks that are in place for arm64, and then see where it explodes.
[19:32] <infinity> Which I've half done now.  Was too lazy to do the other half before trying a quick build.
[19:32] <tedg> WFM, I just don't want per-arch stuff leeching up the stack.
[19:37] <infinity> Okay, so it indeed builds, and then fails 2 tests:
[19:37] <infinity> 99% tests passed, 2 tests failed out of 281
[19:37] <infinity> I need to employ the rest of the arm64 hacks and see if those affect that.
[19:37] <infinity> And then we can probably just temp ignore the ppc-specific failures.
[19:37] <infinity> And skip out on removing your packages altogether.
[19:49] <infinity> tedg: Can you ask a Mirish person where the source for test_data/lib$(arch).so is?
[19:50] <tedg> infinity, asked
[19:51] <infinity> Was hoping some grepping would make it jump out, but I guess I grep poorly.  Or that blob is sourceless, which would be unfortunate. :P
[19:51] <tedg> echo /dev/urandom > lib$(arch).so # Confuse release team
[19:51] <tedg> cat
[19:52] <infinity> It's definitely not urandom, since it's a valid ELF object for the target arch. ;)
[19:52] <tedg> urandom, c++, who can tell the difference? :-)
[19:53] <infinity> Maybe it'll be kind and make me one during the build.  Not holding my breath.
[19:54] <infinity> Yeah, no such luck there, it comes from an external something.
[19:54]  * infinity shrugs.
[19:54] <infinity> 	167 - mir_unit_tests.MesaClientPlatformTest.* (Failed)
[19:54] <infinity> 	233 - mir_unit_tests.SharedLibraryProber.* (Failed)
[19:55] <infinity> So, the second one would be fixed by getting those objects built for ppc/ppc64el.
[19:55] <infinity> The first one is worth a dig, but also perfectly reasonable for us to give a temp pass, and stop playing these awful arch restriction games, IMO.
[19:57] <infinity> Value of: reinterpret_cast<struct gbm_device*>(pkg.data[previous_data_count])
[19:57] <infinity> Expected: is equal to 0x10023e2f340
[19:57] <infinity>   Actual: 0x23e2f340 (of type gbm_device*)
[19:57] <infinity> Hrm.  Curious.
[19:58] <infinity> That looks pretty tractable.
[19:58] <infinity> What with all the suspiciously similar but not quite numbers.
[20:01] <infinity> tedg: Quite confident we can just sort this in the morning when I'm back from VAC.  I might enjoy my last day and go nap or beer or beer and then nap, though.
[20:01] <tedg> infinity, Sounds great, thank you!
[20:01] <infinity> tedg: If you can hunt down the mysterious test data source for me, that would be awesome, then it's just this one bug that needs squashing or ignoring.
[20:01] <tedg> Enjoy your napping beer ;-)
[20:02] <tedg> Will do
[20:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I've had a few sponsor requests turned down.
[20:43] <flexiondotorg>  infinity, Please take a peek at this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1456591
[20:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'm just wanting to know if this is standard practice?
[20:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Should all sponsoring "bugs" be self referencing?
[20:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1456597


[10:22] <Boscop> holstein: will it also slow down the system (increase latency) if i only encrypt the home directory/partition?
[15:54] <holstein> Boscop: i dont
[15:54] <holstein> Boscop: i do professional audio production. i dont need encryption for that
[15:55] <holstein> i need an ultimately tuned, audio centric installation.. which, ubuntustudio does a good job of facilitating for us out of the box
[15:55] <holstein> if i want encyption, or security, i dual boot, as i said, and faciliate my needs on that *different* installation
[15:56] <holstein> Boscop: nothing is preventing you from encrypting *whatever* you like. but, encryption is not facilitating audio production, so, consider *not* using it
[15:56] <holstein> you can encrypt specific things, and not the entire /home or system parition.. for example
[15:57] <holstein> or, use main ubuntu with encyption as you please, and add whatever applications you want
[15:57] <holstein> you *dont* need ecryption to make a live stage production machine for realtime effects, so, consider *not* using it in that application
[15:59] <HarryHaaren> +1, using encryption for live-audio production isn't advised.
[16:35] <Jmainguy> well
[16:35] <Jmainguy> your saying encrypting the entire disk using luks, is bad for live audio
[16:35] <Jmainguy> adds lag?
[16:57] <HarryHaaren> Jmainguy, just adds unnecessary step of decryption (CPU overhead) and another point of possible failure, Simplicity is key in a live-performance setup - complex tends to break / change, and leave you wishing for simple.
[17:54] <yorwos> is there any easy way to make any application jack aware ?
[17:57] <HarryHaaren> yorwos, really depends on the app itself - which one are you thinking of? And are you a programmer?
[17:58] <yorwos> no im not , im just playing a game ygopro and wondered if i could use jack to lower its volume
[17:59] <yorwos> oh i can from control panel
[17:59] <yorwos> pulse
[17:59] <yorwos> ty bb
[18:08] <HarryHaaren> right.. no JACK isn't a good candidate for volume control xD


[14:48] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Apply translations in sv @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/4a8dba31d7fd9edc1303d7944ee16138a0581801 (by transifex-integration)
[15:01] <amerigena> Looking for explicit instructions on building 4.18
[15:02] <amerigena> https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/building seems general
[15:13] <arraybolt3[m]> I see a Xubuntu Core ISO landed, will try to test it today.


[03:19] <tsimonq2> FWIW, IMO Gunnar should be moved up a lot more.
[03:19] <tsimonq2> Maybe near the top.
[03:29] <guiverc> Bashing-om, maybe list at top of hub?  or use general community news (just added for that memoriam notice as is)
[03:31] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Considered moving Gunnar's up - but that would be to the General News section / How well would that fit for General readership ? ( see last night's log).
[04:31]  * Bashing-om away for a bit - sour dough biscuit making time.
[04:31] <guiverc> :)
[04:59] <Bashing-om> 8 biscuits: rise for the morning // 4 for me, 2 for my better half; 2 for the doggoes - they think they are being shorted - but they do accept that life is hard :P
[05:05] <guiverc> :)
[05:40] <Bashing-om> UWN: edit count at 19.
[05:44]  * guiverc fyi: has only read your replies Bashing-om, I've not found energy to re-read uwn today.. will review tomorrow (as is somewhat common anyway these days)
[05:46] <Bashing-om> guiverc: We are looking good - plenty of time yet for the samll things :P Will add the stats/reports tomorrow.
[13:26] <tsimonq2> I would suggest that someone passing away in Ubuntu is rare. We should consider setting a precedent of making it a top item.
[13:27] <tsimonq2> Out of respect, of course. Shows we care about our Members. :)
[17:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::omg!ubuntu:: PeaZip 9.7 Archive Tool Now Supports ARM64 Linux @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/peazip-adds-arm64-linux-support
[19:07] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::omg!ubuntu:: Firefox Devs Working on Tab Hover Previews @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/firefox-devs-working-on-tab-hover-previews
[20:29] <Bashing-om> UWN: Adding stats/reports - a bit of clean up :D
[22:41] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue826 up for review and final edits - Moved Gunnat's article to the top - per request. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-826/42231
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Gunnar's**


[08:47] <ikonia> hi TACPILOT
[08:48] <TACPILOT> hello
[08:49] <TACPILOT> i get it ... absolutelyl no humor allowed
[08:49] <ikonia> TACPILOT: I'm sorry I had to remove you from #ubuntu and forward you to this channel.
[08:49] <ikonia> TACPILOT: however I felt it was the best course of action as you must have had 10 - 15 warnings over the past few days about your comments in #ubuntu
[08:49] <ikonia> various jokes, /me commands, running commentory of what you're doing.
[08:49] <TACPILOT> actually I think u have me confused with another
[08:49] <ikonia> TACPILOT: I don't
[08:49] <TACPILOT> but I will take the hint
[08:50] <ikonia> I know I've spoken to you about this a few times
[08:50] <ikonia> is there a reason you keep ignoring this ?
[08:50] <TACPILOT> then u definitely have me confused with another
[08:50] <ikonia> I %100 don't
[08:51] <TACPILOT> what ever .. this is the first time we have talked together so I dont know who u think I am
[08:51] <TACPILOT> but I will heed the warning regardless
[08:52] <TACPILOT> you are more than welcome to put the logs in my face if u think I need refreshing
[08:52] <ikonia> I don't need to pull logs, I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm just curious as to why you ignore the requests to stop these things in #ubuntu
[08:52] <ikonia> is there something that's not clear ? or do you not understand the topic of the channel ?
[08:53] <TACPILOT> I am a light hearted guy with keyboard scars on my forehead .. helping others doesnt have to be stiff
[08:53] <TACPILOT> but if thats the rules so be it
[08:54] <ikonia> it's not a matter of being "stiff", it's the whole offtopic and running commentory thing too
[08:54] <ikonia> there are 1400 people in the channel
[08:54] <ikonia> you constantly doing
[08:54]  * ikonia installs an application
[08:54]  * ikonia configures an application
[08:54]  * ikonia smashes head that it doesn't work
[08:54] <TACPILOT> admittedly today indeed
[08:54] <Myrtti> the channel has way too much traffic to allow for anything else than support issues - we try to help many people who have no previous experience in IRC and need help with their problems
[08:54]  * ikonia asks for more help
[08:54] <ikonia> TACPILOT: it's not just today, as I've said I've spoke to you about this before
[08:55] <TACPILOT> then u need to pull the logs cause that aint me !
[08:55] <ikonia> TACPILOT: thats the reason I forwarded you to the channel as it wasn't just a 1 request thing
[08:56] <TACPILOT> look yes today i was trying to make light but I we never had this conversation before
[08:57] <ikonia> TACPILOT: do you not remember the discussion after busy box and the 3.0 kernel
[08:57] <TACPILOT> now like I said .. if the rules are that stiff I will abide ..
[08:57] <ikonia> it's not "stiff"
[08:57] <ikonia> it's just allowing others to get help cleanly and clearly
[08:58] <TACPILOT> absolutely but I was damn serious and there was no humor involved I was asking for help .. how can u confuse the 2 ?
[08:58] <ikonia> as I've said its not the just the jokes, it's the overall attitude/approach for help
[08:59] <ikonia> if you're comfortable you understand to just keep the help clean and clear, I'm happy to let you back into the channel
[08:59] <TACPILOT> attitude != horseplay
[08:59] <ikonia> I know it doesn't
[08:59] <TACPILOT> I can understand no horseplay
[09:00] <ikonia> ok, I'll remove the forward for you, one moment
[09:00] <TACPILOT> untill some one warned me that idividule was a troll I was legitimatley trying to help some one
[09:01] <TACPILOT> TY .. I can assure no more horseplay ..
[09:01] <ikonia> the ban forward has been removed, you're welcome to leave this channel and re-join #ubuntu
[09:01] <TACPILOT> tnx
[09:02] <TACPILOT> no luck ?
[09:03] <TACPILOT> the ban still apears to be in effect
[09:04] <ikonia> ooh, really ?
[09:04] <TACPILOT> i try again
[09:04] <TACPILOT> still no luck
[09:04] <ikonia> one moment
[09:05] <ikonia> there we go
[09:05] <ikonia> sorry about that, my fault
[09:05] <TACPILOT> that did it TY
[20:03]  * Pici hands out aspirin to everyone
[20:03] <ikonia> are you ok ?
[20:03] <Pici> I'm fine, just sharing the joy.
[20:04] <ikonia> ha ha
[20:54] <ikonia> hello SuBmUnDo
[20:54] <SuBmUnDo> hello :)
[20:55] <ikonia> SuBmUnDo: are you going to stay in the channel long enough to discuss the reason you where removed from #ubuntu this time or are you going to part straight away saying "bye" again
[20:56] <ikonia> SuBmUnDo: are you sticking around to discuss and hopefully resolve it ?
[20:59] <SuBmUnDo> i'm was testing a away script for xchat
[20:59] <SuBmUnDo> sorry
[20:59] <ikonia> yes, but you continued to do so after being asked 4 times to stop
[21:00] <ikonia> is there a reason you ignored the requests to stop and just carried on
[21:00] <ikonia> you ended up getting removed from #ubuntu and muted in ##linux
[21:02]  * mneptok taps his watch
[21:05] <SuBmUnDo> ikonia, I will not do it again
[21:05] <ikonia> thats not what I asked
[21:05] <ikonia> I shouldn't have to ban you to get you to listen to multiple requests to stop doing something
[21:11] <SuBmUnDo> sorry again
[21:11] <ikonia> is there a reason you ignored the requests though
[21:11] <ikonia> the same way you are ignoring the question I'm asking ?
[21:20] <SuBmUnDo> I was and still am busy so did not see .. but the moment I had not seen
[21:26] <ikonia> SuBmUnDo: so, if I remove the ban forward and allow you to return to ubuntu, which I'd like to do, how can I be sure or have confidence that you'll see and follow instructions in future
[21:27] <ikonia> SuBmUnDo: I'd be a bit more relaxed about it if it was one or two requestes, but you where asked many times and in multiple channels (although other channels are not an issue we are responsible for)
[21:32] <mneptok> SuBmUnDo: this channel has a no-idle policy. you will be removed from here, and eventually banned if you cannot respond in a timely manner.
[21:34] <mneptok> SuBmUnDo: i asked you to stop the /away messages. you say you did not see that request because you were "busy."
[21:35] <mneptok> 11:03 < mneptok> !away | SuBmUnDo`away
[21:35] <mneptok> 11:03 < ubottu> SuBmUnDo`away: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[21:35] <mneptok> 11:04 < SuBmUnDo`away> sorry
[21:35] <mneptok> (MST/US Dec12)
[21:35] <mneptok> SuBmUnDo: my logs say that you saw the request, and continued to mess with /away messages
[21:35] <mneptok> why?
[21:36]  * mneptok taps his watch again
[21:37] <SuBmUnDo> i'm was testing a away script for xchat
[21:38] <mneptok> and you continued testing it after being asked to stop, and apologizing
[21:38] <mneptok> why?
[21:41] <SuBmUnDo> ok, I will not be back to the channel #ubuntu and ##linux and bye bye
[21:41] <mneptok> you sure about that decision?
[21:42] <mneptok> all Ubuntu core channels have the same policy.
[21:42] <SuBmUnDo> yes I'm sure, has said he did not see the requests
[21:42] <SuBmUnDo> ok
[21:43] <mneptok> then it is settled. please /part this channel.
[21:44] <mneptok> @mark #ubuntu-ops SuBmUnDo will not follow core channel guidelines. remove on sight.
[21:45] <pangolin> awesome catalysing and making sure the user understood why he was even in here.
[21:45] <pangolin> not noticing there was a clear language barrier was also good.
[21:46] <mneptok> the lag in replies started to feel deliberate.
[21:47] <pangolin> maybe google translate wasn't working so great
[21:47] <mneptok> i try not to let my latent Jesus complex spill into IRC ;)
[21:47] <pangolin> maybe repeatedly asking why they broke a rule is really not important
[21:48] <pangolin> we are here to guide not to judge.
[21:49] <mneptok> i'm here for the cookies and blackjack
[21:49] <pangolin> I failed at it also btw. I should have stepped in.


[00:19] <user|77903> Hallo
[00:19] <user|77903> I need help, have a rx6800xt Grafic Card in my System and no Picture
[00:20] <user|77903> My System Kubuntu 20.04.1
[00:33] <lsd> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-middle-mouse-button-click-paste-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[00:33] <lsd> solution for kde?
[01:21] <Guest26534> hi there
 @cfaber, same here no idea what happened
[11:11] <Guest1805> Hello
[11:11] <Guest1805> I see firefox icon on my desktop folder but I can't see it on desktop. Why?
[11:16] <not_me_again> Guest1805, right click on the desktop and choose "Configure Desktop" and then at the top of the first pane open choose "Folder View" instead of Desktop in the dropdown menu
[11:16] <Guest1805> already that
[11:17] <not_me_again> Guest1805, and it's still not shown even after applying the changes?
[11:17] <Guest1805> yes
[11:17] <not_me_again> Guest1805, i just did that and it did work
[11:18] <not_me_again> can you prove that you have actually done it. i.e. with a screenshot of your desktop configuratin?
[11:18] <not_me_again> *configuration
[11:18] <Guest1805> I did
[11:19] <Guest1805> It is simple
[11:19] <Guest1805> it doesn't show
[11:19] <Guest1805> Layout: Folder View
[11:19] <Guest1805> Wallpaper Type: Image
[11:19] <Guest1805> Positioning: Scaled and Cropped
[11:19] <not_me_again> Please post a screenshot or I don't care
[11:21] <Guest1805> https://i.ibb.co/VqPZ3PM/Screenshot.png
[11:21] <Maik> layout must be set to Desktop iirc
[11:21] <Guest1805> only firefox icon doesn't show up
[11:21] <not_me_again> Maik, Desktop is default and does not show icons here
[11:21] <Guest1805> i see other icons
[11:22] <not_me_again> Guest1805, go to Location tab on the right and check that it's set to show th correct folder
[11:22] <not_me_again> it might be you're looking in a folder named Desktop but it's configured to show "Xyz" instead
[11:22] <Guest1805> Desktop folder
[11:23] <not_me_again> Guest1805, screenshot, please
[11:23] <Guest1805> lol
[11:23] <not_me_again> and this time with the desktop, too
[11:23] <not_me_again> Guest1805, wait, you mean everything but firefox.desktop is being show?
[11:24] <Guest1805> yes
[11:24] <Guest1805> https://i.ibb.co/RCFN6nk/Screenshot-248.png
[11:25] <not_me_again> Guest1805, what if you press f5 with the destkop being show? or if you manually choose "Refresh desktop" via right clicking on it?
[11:26] <not_me_again> *desktop
[11:26] <Guest1805> same
[11:26] <not_me_again> are you positive that your firefox.desktop and Screenshot.png are in the same folder?
[11:27] <not_me_again> If localization is involved ~/Desktop/ is not always the desktop folder being shown
[11:27] <Guest1805> https://i.ibb.co/yWdPb2P/Screenshot-20.png
[11:29] <not_me_again> What about the "Filter" tab in the configuration?  So you used it before but are not willing to be patient or look for solutions.
[12:06] <Maik> just my 2 cents
[12:06] <Guest1805> no I'm a noob
[12:06] <Guest1805> trying different distros
[12:07] <Maik> and trying to be annoying too. Have a good day
[12:17] <Maik> Guest1805: last but not least a good piece of advice... if you're a noob then stick with one distro first for a longer period before you start distro hopping so you actually learn how things work.
[12:23] <Guest1805> you guys say linux is freedom but i have never met a guy who check the source code
[12:25] <Maik> Guest1805: if you want to chat about other stuff then join #kubuntu-offtopic and keep the support channel from being polluted with offtopic banter
[12:26] <oerheks> tons of volunteers check sources, and snaps.
[12:27] <oerheks> they usually just don't hang around on IRC channels, just mailing lists
[12:37] <guss77> Hi all - I just installed Neon unstable, and it uses Wayland as the default desktop, and so far so good (in the past it completely failed with my vertical external screen setup), except one annoying thing - clipboard's selection: while primary works well with klipper, selected text isn't logged into klipper and while I can paste selection between apps, it seems that GTK apps and KDE apps have two different selection buffers.  Don't you have someplace better to be, such as #windows10isthegreatest or sth?
[12:43] <oerheks> guss77, seems to be a known bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425015 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428521
[12:44] <Maik> guss77: NEON isn't supported here
[12:45] <Maik> -_-
[12:47] <guss77> Heh, Wayland just crashed on me :-)
[12:47] <guss77> Whoever posted the link to the clipboard bug - can you post it again?
[12:47] <guss77> Regarding Neon not being supported - I'm not looking for support, just some info.
[12:48] <guss77> I'm a developer and can handle a lot of stuff myself, and am just looking for some pointers for new info that may not be quite as well searchable yet.
[12:48] <Maik> guss77: still... you mentioned neon, this channels is Kubuntu support only
[12:49] <guss77> Maik: if this channel is just for support requests for Kubuntu, then I'd go somewhere else.
[12:49] <Maik> would be best
[12:50] <Maik> guss77: the topic says Official Kubuntu Support after all
[12:51] <oerheks> !neon
[12:52] <Maik> that channel is dead, it's better to look on the kde neon website where to find support
[12:53] <guss77> Ok, then one last question - where can I talk to people who work on KDE in general questions that are *not* support questions?
[12:53] <Maik> #kde i guess
[12:53] <guss77> thanks.
[12:53] <Maik> yw
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 1953
[16:32] <oerheks> where can i vote to remove matrix?
[16:36] <whiteSoxs> hey
 oerheks: what matrix and remove from what?
[17:02] <Maik> oerheks: that's not matrix but a Telegram bridge connected to IRC
[17:03] <Maik> ask the freenode staaf if they can ban it ;)
[17:03] <Maik> staaf/staff
[19:00] <ghostcube> Hi folks, how to stop ktorrent from starting automaticly on boot
[19:17] <kirvesAxe> ghostcube, have you tried cheking ktorrent settings for that?
[19:29] <Dragnslcr> ghostcube- check System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autostart
[19:34] <ghostcube> hmm, seems to be an session hook ive missed
[19:35] <ghostcube> but thx
[20:20] <lucaspirelli7> hola
[20:21] <lucaspirelli7> quiero instalar el paquete de adobe en mi linu
[20:21] <lucaspirelli7> lux
[20:44] <nzt48> ciao
[21:39] <flank> hello folks. I just installed v20.10, and I am noticing that it seems a little underwhelming on the performance side of things. I just came from Manjaro with KDE, and it seems about 2 times faster. The swich to *ubuntu is necessary in an effort to make all machines on the network the same. Anyone have a list of after-install improvements/changes that they would be willing to share?
[21:39] <flank> I've installed preload...


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