[18:27] <_Zeus_> !google | d_dyer
[18:27] <Bogus8> if I'm gonna replace a raid with a larger one do I need to first logically tear down the first one?
[18:28] <info_> hey i have a question i have problems with my usbstick is set readonly with root too cant delet files on it what to do now?
[18:28] <Bogus8> info_: you need to mount it with the proper options -o
[18:28] <digitalfiz> you see if there is a switch on the stick itself?
[18:28] <v4vijayakuma1> hi, ubuntu 8.10 will be an LTS..?
[18:29] <k_laus> hello . after update kde wont start but stays black (intrepid) ... :(
[18:29] <venome> hi, i've got a minor issue with my touchscreen ... when I start the system in recovery, the device (/dev/input/event3) responds all right ... but when I start normal system, I can't get anything from /dev/input/event3 and the touchscreen does not work ...
[18:29] <info_> its already mount
[18:29] <k_laus> has anybody any idea?
[18:29] <info_> cant even unmount
[18:29] <venome> any suggestions what could went wrong?
[18:29] <TexHex> v4vijayakuma1: no 8.04 is lts
[18:29] <hischild> k_laus, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid support :-)
[18:30] <venome> v4vijayakuma1: 8.10 wont be LTS
[18:30] <Bogus8> info_: use sudo
[18:30] <k_laus> hischild: thank you :)
[18:30] <Bogus8> if I'm gonna replace a raid with a larger one do I need to first logically tear down the first one?
[18:30] <v4vijayakuma1> how to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 LTS ..?
[18:30] <info_> i tried but i will go on tryng
[18:30] <Pici> !ibex | v4vijayakuma1
[18:31] <pythoneles> hi guys, can anyone please tell me if is there a way to disable the multiple instances feature of an app ?
[18:31] <tv7497> Pici: is ibex released sir ?
[18:31] <Pici> tv7497: no.
[18:31] <Ash-Fox> You know, I do find it kind of stupid that there is a 'irc' account included with the default ubuntu installation, where IRC servers are installed to. Yet, when a IRCd running under that account tries to bind STANDARD IRC ports in /etc/services - 194/tcp and 994/tcp, the kernel refuses to do so because it's a port under 1024. So what is the point of having that account on the system?
[18:31] <Thesmyth> Has anyone here used Likewise Open?
[18:31] <tv7497> Pici: :) i was shocked indeed the guy must have gotten the version wrong
[18:32] <Pici> tv7497: Or he was looking for the alpha
[18:32] <d_dyer> Press ALT+F2 Then Type gconf-editor,Now go to apps->nautilus->Desktop.Finally In the right pane, check the trash_icon_visible checkbox. That is how you do it _Zeus_
[18:32] <tv7497> Pici: is alpha version released ?
[18:32] <_Zeus_> d_dyer: thank you.  good to know
[18:32] <_Zeus_> tv7497: a6 is out, yse
[18:32] <d_dyer> No Problem
[18:32] <d_dyer> Thank google lol
[18:33] <_Zeus_> :P
[18:33] <_Zeus_> !thanks
[18:33] <Pici> tv7497: yes, see #ubuntu+1
[18:33] <d_dyer> lol
[18:33] <[R]> why doesn't gconf-editor show up in my gnome menu?
[18:33] <stdin> Ash-Fox: the ircd is supposed to drop privileges after binding to a port, that's why
[18:33] <Ash-Fox> stdin, there is no known IRCd that has ever done that.
[18:33] <v4vijayakuma1> one more question
[18:33] <lucax> [R]: try editing menu right clicking on it
[18:34] <v4vijayakuma1> how to record computer screen..?
[18:34] <stdin> Ash-Fox: most do, most daemons do generally
[18:34] <[R]> lucax: i see it, its unchecked... why does it default ot unchecked?
[18:34] <Ash-Fox> stdin, most daemons do, yes. But IRC servers never have.
[18:34] <v4vijayakuma1> how to record computer screen as a video..?
[18:34] <_Zeus_> [R]: because you can damage your system sith it
[18:34] <_Zeus_> *with
[18:35] <[R]> i highly doubt i can damage my "system"... i can screw up my gnoem config... but thats about it
[18:35] <Bogus8> if I'm gonna replace a raid with a larger one do I need to first logically tear down the first one?
[18:35] <_Zeus_> [R]: for a new user, that is damage
[18:36] <chubs> yeah that's a bit of an exaggeration _Zeus_
[18:36] <xomp> hello, I'm getting this error when starting up eclipse, can someone point me to where I can find this file? A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java
[18:36] <[R]> ok, well thanks for the info
[18:36] <Ash-Fox> stdin, it's why the unofficial 6667 port became so popular for IRC. I just find this behaviour in linux distributions annoying. I solved the issue with a iptables forwarding rule, but really I think there should be a exception in the kernel to just allow binding of service specific ports through authorized system accounts.
[18:36] <lucax> how can i get my desktop look like a cilinder?
[18:36] <ether_c> If I have say.. 3 wireless cards on my laptop and I want to connect them ALL to an access point at the same time, then somehow use them all at the same time, what would that be called? I have no idea where to begin looking.
[18:36] <_Zeus_> lucax: are you running intrepid?
[18:36] <_Zeus_> i think you need intrepid to get that version of compiz
[18:36] <lucax> _Zeus_: nope, hardy...
[18:36] <v4vijayakuma1> how to record computer screen as a video..? for example, how to record this pidgin chat window as a video..?
[18:37] <[R]> Ash-Fox: selinux, or one of those annoying security systems... forget which one... allows that i belive
[18:37] <_Zeus_> lucax: I think you need to wait for intrepid
[18:37] <lucax> but cant we just update compiz?
[18:37] <ether_c> v4vijayakuma1: recordmydesktop?
[18:37] <v4vijayakuma1> yes
[18:37] <Ickmund> Having trouble with SPDIF, where analog sound works. Using a nForce3 AC'97 chip. System -> Prefs -> Sounds -> Test works (single tone), but nothing else. Only thing I've done in terms of drivers on this comp is EnvyNG. Anything else I should be doing?
[18:37] <stdin> Ash-Fox: I think PolicyKit addresses *some* of those issues, but I'm not sure about bind() calls
[18:37] <_Zeus_> lucax: it might work if you enable the sofware source hardy-backports
[18:38] <chubs> lucax, you can backport it if you want (have fun)
[18:38] <ether_c> v4vijayakuma1: sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[18:38] <lucax> chubs: hehe didnt think that
[18:38] <v4vijayakuma1> ok, let me try
[18:38] <v4vijayakuma1> sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[18:38] <xomp> hello, I'm getting this error when starting up eclipse, can someone point me to where I can find this file? A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java
[18:38] <Pici> v4vijayakuma1: not in irc, in a terminal
[18:38] <Ash-Fox> [R], selinux, apparmor unfortunately don't have functionality that just addresses bind. :/
[18:39] <Ash-Fox> Although I probably should send in a feature suggestion.
[18:39] <ether_c> If I have say.. 3 wireless cards on my laptop and I want to connect them ALL to an access point at the same time, then somehow use them all at the same time, what would that be called? I have no idea where to begin looking.
[18:40] <danbh_intrepid> ether_c: mimo?   thats what they call it when a single card does that
[18:40] <gtpro102> so is the server version of ubuntu any good?
[18:40] <Ash-Fox> gtpro102, depends on what you want to use it for.
[18:41] <gtpro102> web pages
[18:41] <Ash-Fox> gtpro102, for LAMP stuff, it's pretty good.
[18:41] <gtpro102> whats lamp?
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[18:41] <Ash-Fox> Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[18:41] <MrD1> if you have 3 wifi cards connected to one AP would you still not get the same download speed any way, is it not depending on there connection
[18:41] <v4vijayakuma1> hi Pici, I know that :)
[18:42] <gtpro102> i just got a server for 50 bucks and wana run my webpage from it
[18:42] <Izinucs> MrD1: the more connections to any given point will split the available speed based on demand from each connection.. (wireless or wired.)
[18:42] <gtpro102> sounds like a jet engine when this hog fires up its crazy
[18:43] <pythoneles> hi guys, can anyone please tell me if is there a way to disable the multiple instances feature of an app ?
[18:43] <MrD1> Izinucs, ok thanks im happy just connected with 1 but its nice to know as much as possible
[18:43] <gtpro102> i think i heard the twin turbos spooling up lol
[18:43] <Izinucs> MrD1: np..
[18:44] <Ash-Fox> gtpro102, jesus, what server did you buy? Most of my servers are silent as anything...
[18:45] <robelliott2125> lo all.  Needing a hand trying to reconfig whatever it is, to keep my sodding refresh and resolution rates.
[18:45] <gtpro102> its a compaq
[18:45] <gtpro102> 6-37 gig hard drives 2 power suplys one intel pentium 3 xenon processor
[18:45] <danbh_intrepid> robelliott2125: what happened?
[18:45] <robelliott2125> I've been doing this:  gksudo displayconfig-gtk - But when restarting, hoping its saved the config, it goes back to something ridiculous like 2000 odd
[18:46] <Ash-Fox> gtpro102, that sounds kind of.. ancient...
[18:46] <robelliott2125> danbh_intrepid, i shutdown last night normally, and this is the first time i've tried booting, and its massive.
[18:46] <gtpro102> has a slot for a second processor wich i will install later
[18:46] <robelliott2125> Screen that is
[18:46] <gtpro102> i looked it up its still going anywhere from 600 to 1400 dollars
[18:47] <gtpro102> not a bad buy for 50 bucks
[18:47] <Izinucs> gtpro102: how'd you get so lucky for $50
[18:47] <Ash-Fox> Don't you mean it has three Intel Xeon processors?
[18:47] <gtpro102> lol a guy new a guy lol
[18:47] <Izinucs> serial number filed
[18:47] <digitalfiz> lol
[18:47] <danbh_intrepid> robelliott2125: well, displayconfig is gone in intrepid, but so are all the other options
[18:48] <robelliott2125> Well, someone walked me through a way i could do in terminal, which opened like an old dos based screen.
[18:48] <Hiding-Bananas> Hello to all
[18:49] <morningwalker> how to convert a .png file to something like .jpeg??
[18:49] <robelliott2125> Just hoping i can sort this out danbh_intrepidn, since when rebooting, it goes back to 2000x.
[18:49] <vdsy> just a quick question....what version of alsa and alsa-lib alsa-ss does ubuntu install?
[18:49] <lucax> for people like me that wanted to have lastest version of compiz here are the repos... deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main
[18:49] <morningwalker> how to convert a .png file to something like .jpeg??
[18:49] <morningwalker> how to convert a .png file to something like .jpeg??
[18:49] <gtpro102> is there any setting i need to know about setup of a server while im installing ubuntu? is it just like installing the desktop version with self explanitory questions?
[18:49] <Izinucs> morningwalker: I like this stuff.. Install imagemagick.. sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[18:49] <robelliott2125> morningwalker, stop repeating yourself, someone will help you
[18:49] <lucax> morningwalker: open the image in gimp and save it as... jpg
[18:49] <Ash-Fox> morningwalker, open it in the gimp or kolourpaint or krita and file -> save as -> filename.jpg
[18:49] <case^> is there a bug #
[18:50] <legend2440> !fixres | robelliott2125
[18:50] <robelliott2125> Nice one legend2440!!!
[18:50] <Izinucs> morningwalker: then in a terminal type .. convert /location/file.png /location/file.jpg
[18:50] <Ash-Fox> robelliott2125, or if a application like Wine just screwed it up, xrandr -s 0 --screen 0
[18:50] <jorrit> natalisushka, I'm back, now about those commands...
[18:51] <natalisushka> hi all, please help me in this. I have a laptop with ubuntu 8.04, lspci shows this: http://pastebin.com/mbdaaaf4 .. and have a problem with graphic card (I guess) .. I have restricted drivers "ATI accelerator" installed, and visual effects to none. Yet, after using many apps with mouse and keyboard so so much active, I get my USB stopped working, so mouse stops (except for the pad), and any other USB device. The system slows down a bit, espec
[18:51] <natalisushka> ially in webbrowser (gets stuck for a few seconds every minute), and when I restart or shutdown my system it gets stuck forever. Now compiz donst work for some reason, but in a previous installation of ubuntu 8.04 (same ubuntu version) it worked, and when I set my visual effects to Normal, the problem gets worse, I get logged out with a unix screen and gets stuck there! So seems like in both, when visual effects are ON and when they are OFF,
[18:51] <natalisushka> same problems with different behavior of symptom, which makes it look like a graphic card issue. What can I do???
[18:51] <case^> wall
[18:51] <natalisushka> jorrit, listening :)
[18:52] <jorrit> natalisushka, "lapic" and "noacpi" are kernel parameters, words that you type in the same line in GRUB that you use to start the kernel
[18:52] <geodome> mmm..
[18:52] <v4vijayakuma1> recordmydesktop is great, but whats a window id?
[18:53] <jorrit> natalisushka, When you start your box, you end up in GRUB first,  or not?
[18:53] <Izinucs> morningwalker: does that help?  You can also do it in Gimp by opening the file then saving it in a format that you want.
[18:53] <morningwalker> lucax, while saving it as .jpg it seems that its not being recognised as .jpg itself
[18:53] <CarolinaSwamp> is there a way to use sftp to recursively download a directory and its subdirectories?
[18:54] <natalisushka> jorrit, yes, when I press escape. I guess this can be added in the menu.list under /boot/grub, right?
[18:54] <jorrit> natalisushka, yes, that's it.
[18:54] <v4vijayakuma1> ether_c?
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka You can try it by manually entering it once to see if it works rather than editing menu.lst
[18:55] <newt11> how do I change the premisson to crwsrw----? and what does c stands for?
[18:55] <natalisushka> jorrit, I am not sure where exactly shall I add them. Can you please help me? I will post a pastebin of my menu.lst and you tell me on what line to do that
[18:55] <natalisushka> jorrit, can you?
[18:55] <CarolinaSwamp> ls
[18:55] <natalisushka> Jack_Sparrow, you mean edit it while booting?
[18:55] <jorrit> I'll quote my own kernel line:  "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=d782effa-5b35-45da-8e39-abc6b2320030 ro single"
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka edit the line from the grub menu using E then E
[18:56] <jorrit> natalisushka, you just add the words nolapic noacpi after where I have "single"
[18:56] <natalisushka> Jack_Sparrow, got it. I just want now to save them commented in the menu.lst .. what must I type there?
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> # To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[18:56] <Slart> newt11: might be character device.. not sure though
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka if it works.. then once you are up and running.. gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:57] <natalisushka> jorrit, I have many of them, must it be the one on the top?
[18:57] <jarlaxle> hi all!!!
[18:57] <jarlaxle> :)
[18:57] <Pretto> does anyone know how to make udev rules for a Sony Ericsson MD300 USB modem?
[18:57] <jorrit> natalisushka, if you choose the one on the top that will affect your default boot option.
[18:57] <venome> newt11: yes, 'c' stands for character device
[18:57] <jorrit> remember to make a backup first before you edit this important file, like cp menu.lst menu.lst.org
[18:58] <natalisushka> jorrit, so shouldn't I edit the one on top?
[18:58] <compengi> where does Trash folder located?
[18:58] <jorrit> natalisushka, You can, but make backup first.
[18:58] <Slart> !trash | compengi
[18:58] <compengi> oh
[18:58] <compengi> i didn't think it had a factoid :P
[18:58] <natalisushka> jorrit, I did
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[18:58] <Annirak> I'm having some problems getting gw working under wine.  I have the most recent catalyst drivers installed, and I'm running wine 1.1.2.  When I launch gw, my monitor changes video modes, but the graphics are jumbled.  It looks like everything is rendering correctly, but blocks of the screen are being displayed in the wrong locations.  A screenshot taken under gw shows the correct rendering.
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Annirak /j #winehq
[18:59] <Slart> compengi: well.. that question is getting asked every now and then..
[18:59] <jorrit> natalisushka, if you make a typo now, you can still fix it ;-)
[18:59] <jorrit> jorrit, go ahead and add the words nolapic and acpi=off
[18:59] <Annirak> Jack_Sparrow: I tried there first, but they're not very active.
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Annirak understood, but that is the right place for answers on wine
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Annirak none of the channels are likely to be as active as this one
[19:00] <compengi> Slart, well i was wondering how could a deleted file by root could went to Trash
[19:00] <compengi> weird
[19:00] <jorrit> natalisushka, , go ahead and add the words nolapic and acpi=off (Silly me, to address myself ^)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> hey all, I just wrenched out compiz and have no kwin decorators. I how can I get them back please?
[19:01] <Drk_Guy> Compiz seems to be eating my cpu, any ideas?
[19:01] <natalisushka> jorrit, so basically acpi=off is the same as noacpi, right?
[19:01] <compengi> Slart, thanks anyways ;)
[19:01] <aldipc> hi!
[19:01] <jorrit> natalisushka, yes, but the only correct option here is "acpi=off", just like Jack_Sparrow said.
[19:02] <Slart> compengi: you're welcome
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> # To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"  noapic is NOT a typo on noacpi
[19:02] <natalisushka> jorrit, is this correct before I save: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=441f5967-285f-4307-805e-95ceb6d0bde4 ro quiet splash nolapic acpi=off
[19:02] <natalisushka> ?
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka looks good
[19:02] <jorrit> natalisushka, yes, go ahead and try to see if you have a more stable system now
[19:03] <aldipc> I have an ADSL modem/router with a wireless router attached to it. they use different address spaces. My ubuntu box is on the adsl address space and my windows pc on the wireless router address space. I want them to communicate with eachother (Samba for instance), but how can a node on my wirelss router reach a node in the other adress space?
[19:04] <aldipc> since they all use masquerading..
[19:04] <natalisushka> jorrit, ok, thanks but I'd like first to understand what these params will do? If I have an issue with my graphic card resulting in usb halting and logout issues, how can this help?
[19:05] <jorrit> natalisushka, Some power management features (acpi is a Power management feature) behave buggy on some chipsets that might include your own.
[19:05] <natalisushka> Also, I'd like to be advised what can I read to understand more about the kernel behavior and the way it works in linux in general and ubuntu in particular
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka there are many many command boot modifiers..  noapic acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, pci=nomsi
[19:05] <jorrit> !kernel parameters
[19:06] <legend2440> Jack_Sparrow: uname -a says i'm using  2.6.24-19-generic  but i noticed   natalisushka is using 2.6.24-21-generic.  did i miss a kernel update or something?
[19:06] <howdydoody-iamse> hmm
[19:06] <spydon> Is there a way to check through ssh if the lid is closed on a laptop?
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> natalisushka From a terminal please type   lsb_release -a
[19:06] <howdydoody-iamse> weird
[19:06] <howdy1234567890> there we go
[19:07] <venome> spydon: there should be a device that says what the state of the lid is
[19:07] <venome> spydon: but it depends on your hardware, usually its connected thru apic
[19:07] <spydon> venome, thats what I thought, but how do I check it?
[19:07] <jorrit> natalisushka, please paste the contents of lsb_release -a on the pastebin
[19:07] <pythoneles> hi guys, can anyone please tell me if there's a way to disable the multiple instances feature of an app ?
[19:07] <howdy1234567890> I have a question about ircd... I successfully setup/installed one though am unable to log into it via client.
[19:07] <howdy1234567890> any ideas?
[19:07] <spydon> venome, but say that I find which dev it is, how can I see which state it is in?
[19:08] <lucax> mmmm... new compiz its not that great
[19:08] <extor> Which antivirus do people usually use to scan their emails, for home and non commercial use that is?
[19:08] <jorrit> extor, try ClamAV
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> extor clamav
[19:08] <natalisushka> jorrit, Jack_Sparrow, one moment
[19:08] <venome> spydon: you should find the proper device from the output of cat /proc/bus/input/devices on the target machine
[19:08] <airtonix> i notice tracker wont index ms doc format ...anyway i can get it start doing so?
[19:09] <extor> Jack_Sparrow, jorrit is ClamAV comparable to avast, ie about the same caliber?
[19:09] <jorrit> airtonix, did you read the manpages for tracker?
[19:09] <natalisushka> jorrit, Jack_Sparrow
[19:09] <natalisushka> http://pastebin.com/m626136c0
 Vladimir[LV], then you should limit rev. DNS to your local IP's for internal DNS it's quite handy.
[19:09] <spydon> venome, ah there it is, but how do I check it? :P
[19:09] <Vladimir[LV]> my server have 1 global ip
[19:09] <Vladimir[LV]> jorrit ^
[19:09]  * extor sees clamAV in the deb packages but not avast
[19:09] <pentolino1965> ciao a tutti
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> extor note that it isnt to protect linux, just to protect the windows machine you may be forwarding too.
[19:09] <Vladimir[LV]> jorrit: there is no router
[19:10] <pentolino1965> !list
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> extor If you are only running linux.. dont bother
[19:10] <Vladimir[LV]> jorrit: just direct access
[19:10] <venome> spydon: well cane you put the part about the lid in the pastebin?
[19:10] <extor> Jack_Sparrow, so clamav as a plugin for email will work just as fine as avast would have, right?
[19:10] <howdy1234567890> hmm
[19:10] <jorrit> Vladimir[LV], In that case, don't bother using rev. DNS
[19:10] <venome> spydon: my lid is in /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state file
[19:11] <aldipc> what channel can I go for network related questions
[19:11] <howdy1234567890> any ideas on getting connected to a new irc daemon?
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> extor clam isnt too bad..  but there is no need for it on a linux box
[19:11] <airtonix> i notice tracker wont index ms doc format ...anyway i can get it start doing so?
[19:11] <spydon> venome, http://pastebin.com/d2bb647fc
[19:11] <howdy1234567890> Or is there another channel/room I can ask the irc server question in?
[19:11] <jorrit> natalisushka, that's eactly the same as I have.
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> howdy1234567890 #ubuntu-server
[19:11] <extor> Jack_Sparrow, just to see if someone sends me virii through email
[19:11] <jorrit> natalisushka, ... e>x<actly
[19:11] <howdy1234567890> ty!
[19:12] <spydon> venome, AAh found it, thank you very much!!!
[19:12] <venome> spydon: gr8, no problem :)
[19:13] <Vladimir[LV]> jorrit: ok, thank you :-)
[19:13] <psicobra>  have just plugged my external hard drive in it is ntfs and it hasn't auto mounted i know howto mount it but i just need to know how to find it i.e /dev/sdb1
[19:13] <jorrit> natalisushka, that's plain vanilla Ubuntu 8.04, just like I have. You do have a high kernel number though, I use 2.6.24-19. How did you get that last kernel update?
[19:14] <psicobra> any one help
[19:14] <jorrit> natalisushka, please paste the output of this command: uname -a
[19:14] <natalisushka> jorrit, I have NO IDEA!:)
[19:14] <natalisushka> jorrit, uname-a: Linux natalisushka-laptop 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:15] <Slart> !info linux-image-generic
[19:15] <jorrit> natalisushka, that looks like a generic kernel to me. No problems there...
[19:16] <airtonix> ok, reason tracker does not index ms word doc files L: missing wv package
[19:16] <jorrit> airtonix, plugins are nice, are they not ;-)
[19:16] <airtonix> links to plugins are too...packages from offical repos are tasty
[19:17] <Net-Base> hi. can someone tell me where i can find a guild to install Zend Studio 5.5.1???
[19:17] <austin> HI! Can anyone help me?
[19:17] <Net-Base> guide^^
[19:17] <jorrit> airtonix, I use a lot of packages from Universe as well.
[19:17] <airtonix> Net-Base, howtoforge is a nice place to start
[19:17] <natalisushka> jorrit, thanks, will this work when I reboot?
[19:18] <erichammond> Is there a document which talks about setting up laptop Internet access through cell phone networks and Ubuntu compatibility with various providers/devices to do this?
[19:18] <Net-Base> airtonix -> where can i find that? im new in this Ubuntu world... so please help...
[19:18] <airtonix> erichammond, there is on the ubunut wiki
[19:18] <erichammond> airtonix: Thanks, I don't even know what these devices are called to look it up.
[19:18] <jorrit> natalisushka, I can't tell really. If it's more stable after these parameters you at least know in which direction you need to search to solve your problem.
[19:18] <airtonix> Net-Base, http://www.howtoforge.com/
[19:19] <airtonix> erichammond, when i tried with my phone, its was called a utms device
[19:19] <Sake> I was having problems running thunderbird. It seems to run normally without error (even from the command line), but when I start it up, I get the popup for my new messages, but the app never appears in the command line or on my screen. Could it be dumping errors to a log file somewhere? How do I debug this?
[19:19] <jorrit> natalisushka, It *will* boot for sure, only I don't know if the problems you experience will be solved by it.
[19:19] <erichammond> airtonix: I'm thinking of the cards you plug into the laptop to gain access to the cell phone network.
[19:19] <airtonix> erichammond, may be different with yours..but mines a lg u8110
[19:20] <airtonix> erichammond, ah right
[19:20] <Net-Base> airtonix -> thanks...
[19:20] <ZorbaTHut> I got a weird problem. I have an Ubuntu installation that got some corrupted data. I'd like to reinstall every package. Is there an easy way to do this?
[19:20] <jorrit> Sake, try starting thunderbird from the terminal, with : thunderbird &
[19:20] <pythoneles> hi folks, can anyone please tell me if there's a way to prevent multiples instances of apps which have this feature ?
[19:20] <airtonix> erichammond, you have one there? and have tried out some basic stuff yet?
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: do a clean install with a different disk
[19:21] <jorrit> Sake, You will get any error messages or warnings straight to your terminal that way.
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> pythoneles: which feature, sorry just came in and dont get your question
[19:21] <ZorbaTHut> pirate, I'd rather not clobber the existing system, I'd much rather just reinstall packages locally. it seems like it should be possible, I can do them one at a time, that's just kind of silly
[19:22] <Dragon> Help whenever i do sudo i get this error:    sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1001, should be 0
[19:22] <ZorbaTHut> it virtually all works fine, I just want to rewrite everything to be sure
[19:22] <jorrit> Sake, if you would like to browse them afterwards, just type: thunderbird 2>thunderbird.error &
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[19:22] <jorrit> Sake, that will give you all the errors and warnings in that file.
[19:22] <praet> how can i turn off/on mouse keys from the console? is ti a gconf entry?
[19:22] <BunTai> whats new on ubuntu?
[19:23] <ZorbaTHut> I don't believe that will reinstall packages that already exist, though, will it? I mean, what I'm going for here is "find the existing package, re-extract everything"
[19:23] <Sake> jorrit, I do that and still get no errors though
[19:23] <pythoneles> Pirate_Hunter, like, if emesene is already opened, and i try to lauch it it will give me another instance of it, but on the contrary doing this on rhythbox for instance brings the already opened instance
[19:23] <Sake> jorrit, It just seems to vanish
[19:23] <ZorbaTHut> and the changes I've made are not entirely contained within ubuntu packages
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BunTai Please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat and discussions
[19:23] <hwilde_> hello I need help with my .ssh config file - I need it to ssh to one server then ssh to another server.  can I do this with ProxyCommand?
[19:23] <erichammond> airtonix: I don't have a card yet.  I found that Sprint sells AirCard and T-Mobile sells GC89, but I'd like to research the general kind of things these are and their compatibility with Ubuntu. I'm looking for the name of what these are and perhaps a document which discusses them and Ubuntu.
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ZorbaTHut I know what you are looking to do, but it doesnt work that way
[19:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: oh sorry thought you said you had just done a clean install, yah just reinstall them again and see if that solves it otherwise purge the packages on unninstal and reinstall it again but you'll lose all your cuyreent config files
[19:23] <Sake> jorrit,  and ps -e returns two processes: thunderbird and thunderbird-bin
[19:24] <jorrit> Sake, maybe there is a cmd-line parameter that shows more warnings than normal. There is bound to be a thunderbird channel right here on Freenode that might give you more specific info
[19:24] <ZorbaTHut> pirate, okay, so, back to my previous question: how can I reinstall all my packages? :P
[19:24] <Dragon> Help! When i use the sudo command i get this error, it just started doing this today, sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1001, should be 0
[19:24] <ZorbaTHut> jack, how doesn't it work that way? I mean, there is "aptitude reinstall" already
[19:24] <airtonix> erichammond, when i said wiki i meant : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ZorbaTHut You can only automate the supported packages, everything else you will need to do manually
[19:24] <airtonix> erichammond, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=mobile&titlesearch=Titles
[19:24] <Sake> jorrit, yea, I was just wondering if there was some general system log that it might be dumping errors to
[19:25] <Pirate_Hunter> pythoneles: i think that is how certain apps are programmed, you could download the source code for emesene and try to reprogram it :/ but good luck on that, ps - i have to add that i noticed things like that
[19:25] <ZorbaTHut> I'm fine with that, because if I'm not doing a clean reformat, I won't need to reinstall the new stuff (all of that seems fine)
[19:25] <ZorbaTHut> I want an easy way to reinstall all the existing packages on an existing Ubuntu system
[19:25] <airtonix> erichammond, i think that page detailing iBurst is similar to yours?
[19:25] <ZorbaTHut> aptitude reinstall seems to be able to do one at a time. how can I do all of them?
[19:25] <legend2440> Dragon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691604
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ZorbaTHut I gave you that info a minute ago
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[19:25] <jorrit> Sake, normally it should dump any errors to standard_error that gets redirected to the file with 2>thunderbird.error
[19:25] <dmsuperman> Anybody know how I can install the xmlrpc-c package in ubuntu?
[19:25] <pythoneles> Pirate_Hunter, alright..tks
[19:26] <ZorbaTHut> jack, that appears to be for installing packages that are not installed on an existing system
[19:26] <ZorbaTHut> i.e. "here is the list of packages I used to have, clean reformat and install, get those packages on the new system"
[19:26] <Sake> jorrit, yea, I know that much. I just had read something about a System Message log a while back. Wondering if maybe that might help
[19:26] <Izinucs> !automate > Izinucs
[19:26] <airtonix> erichammond, btw... conky also supposedly has access to wifi signal strength
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ZorbaTHut read it carefully, easy enough to tell it to reinstall them
[19:26] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: youre asking for a lot the system is made like that, you're going to have to be patient and when i said reistall i did not know you didnt know how to reisntal packages also text are scrolling up very quicly on my screen sorry if im slow on replying
[19:26] <ZorbaTHut> I don't want to reformat, I just want to replace the existing packages. will that do it? 'cause in my experience, the "upgrade" commands won't do that
[19:27] <jorrit> Sake, there is no official thunderbird channel on Freenode. There is a mozilla channel, though.
[19:27] <ZorbaTHut> will "dselect-reinstall" do it? that's the closest thing I can think of from there
[19:27] <ZorbaTHut> note that I'm not reinstalling the entire OS, I merely want to re-extract packages on an existing one :P
[19:27] <airtonix> I really wish there was a way to get conky to sit underneath the icons nautilus paints ont it's desktop...is there way to do this?
[19:28] <morningwalker> can i trust this link... ive been waiting to get an internet connection for my home pc http://www.itech7.com/HOWTO/Setting-up-a-Internet-connection-in-ubuntu-for-a-static-IP-address.
[19:28] <hejux> hi everyone. after i mounted the windows partition to /media/c as root ,then i try to get in as other user , it said : permission denied , what can i do  ? thanks
[19:28] <jorrit> Sake, strike that, mozilla seems to be an alias for firefox# (...Sigh...)
[19:28] <hejux> hello
[19:28] <morningwalker> hejux, probably u weren't sudo
[19:29] <jorrit> Sake, try running thunderbird in safe-mode, like so: thunderbird -safe-mode &
[19:29] <Izinucs> morningwalker: since the link responds with Error 404.. I'd say no.
[19:29] <cherico> wat does this mean:
[19:29] <cherico> After you have downloaded the file 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg#.run',
[19:29] <cherico> change to the directory containing the downloaded file, and as the 'root' user
[19:29] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: the easiest method to reinstall packages is through synaptic, just choose the package and right click choosing option reinstall but if they are corrupted i would advise you to purge the packages and config them again i.e sudo aptitude purge [package name]
[19:29] <morningwalker> which link?
[19:29] <hejux> well , i don't want to get in that dir with sudo , because i need a normal user to access that partition ... morningwalker
[19:29] <lucax> hejux: open nautilus as root, gksudo nautilus / and get to /media/c and right click on it change permission for users to see and change or whatever
[19:29] <Izinucs> morningwalker: the one you just provided.. and asked for info on.
[19:30] <morningwalker> Izinucs the link i gave u??
[19:30] <Sake> jorrit, Hrmm, maybe it's displaying to the wrong X Session? How do I get the label for my current session?
[19:30] <Izinucs> morningwalker: the last link you posted above.. it wasn't addressed to anyone in particular.
[19:30] <hejux> ohh ... i am so sorry, i am at a text mode right now , i don't have gnome installed ...
[19:30] <Sake> jorrit,  cause even in safe mode, it launches, process is listed, but it's not displayed anywhere
[19:31] <lucax> hejux: you need to open nautilus and change permissions so that other users regular users can see or read write in that folder...
[19:31] <ZorbaTHut> pirate, assume I want to reinstall all packages, not just single packages
[19:31] <hejux> lucax: i don't have nautilus ... i am under command line mode
[19:31] <morningwalker> hejux, please see my private message
[19:31] <jorrit> Sake, try removing thunderbird and reinstalling through the package manager, like sudo apt-get remove thunderbird && sudo ap-get install thunderbird
[19:31] <Slart> ZorbaTHut: what about using dpkg -l together with some bash magic..
[19:32] <lucax> hejux: then i dont know... im not good with terminal
[19:32] <Bikerbob> Need help with a powerpc install - Xorg cant find a valid configuration, log shows it finding the video but not being able to setup a screen.
[19:32] <ZorbaTHut> slart, maybe. I don't know bash well enough to put that together, unfortunately
[19:32] <jorrit> Sake, this won't effect your e-mail, it will just reinstall your thunderbird
[19:32] <Bikerbob> found 8.04 does not contain the driver
[19:32] <Bikerbob> but I found this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/powerpc/xserver-xorg-video-mach64
[19:33] <jorrit> Bikerbob, mach64? That's an oldie!
[19:33] <Bikerbob> so how do I install it.. and USE it..
[19:33] <Bikerbob> yeah jorrit, but the driver was just updated 2 days ago
[19:33] <cherico> hellp
[19:33] <Bikerbob> go figure
[19:33] <cherico> how do u set something as root ?
[19:34] <jorrit> cherico, you can run things as root when you prefix them with sudo
[19:34] <Bikerbob> but my ppc version of 8.04 does not have it in its /sources
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> !sudo | cherico
[19:34] <Slart> ZorbaTHut: ah.. think I found a solution.. start synaptic, click status, select installed.. ctrl+a, right click, select reinstall =)
[19:34] <Bikerbob> when I try and install with apt-get I get nothing found with that name
[19:34] <jorrit> !info kernel parameters
[19:34] <cherico> im tryn to run a driver but it says it must be set as root
[19:34] <jorrit> lol
[19:34] <austin> hello can anyone help me i cant inabel special effects on my computer
[19:35] <csilk> austin,  what grfx card you got?
[19:35] <Bikerbob> yes people I did try ubuntu-powerpc but the 6 people in there are all asleep
[19:35] <yem2> What linux program should i use if i want to learn to C++
[19:35] <ZorbaTHut> can you provide the same stuff with aptitude? it's a headless server box :)
[19:35] <erichammond> airtonix: Yes, the iBurst page seems to be the closest  I can find too.  I was hoping for something a bit more comprehensive (different cards) and current.  Thank you.
[19:35] <cherico> After you have downloaded the file 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg#.run',
[19:35] <cherico> change to the directory containing the downloaded file, and as the 'root' user
[19:35] <austin> csilk, how can i check
[19:35] <csilk> yem2,  you could just use a text editor to write C++ apps or you could down the eclipse IDE
[19:36] <csilk> austin,  is it a laptop or desktop?
[19:36] <airtonix> erichammond, i did see a page for mobile phones...
[19:36] <csilk> in fact, that doesnt matter
[19:36] <csilk> go to restrcited drivers
[19:36] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: sorry back had to go downstairs quickly did you sort out your problem
[19:36] <yem2> Which would you recommend csilk?
[19:36] <austin> csilk, laptop but it wont work for my desktop either
[19:36] <ZorbaTHut> pirate, not yet, I'm trying a few things
[19:36] <jorrit> Can anyone help me to get my midi detected on my VIA 8237 chipset? I'm running plain Ubuntu 8.04
[19:36] <youareno6> For an AMD64 system, how can I get the 32-bit version of libpcre.so.3?
[19:36] <csilk> yem2,  I use eclipse to develope large bits of software, anything small and quick i tend to use a txt editor
[19:37] <jorrit> csilk, It hink yem2 wants a kind of a tutorial program
[19:37] <csilk> austin,  what version of ubuntu
[19:37] <cherico> can someone help me update my driver ?
[19:37] <csilk> jorrit,  oh.. those exist?
[19:37] <yem2> so when i'm learning it, i should probably use a text editor?, also what program do i use to compile my scripts?
[19:37] <cherico> i cant use envy it doest work right
[19:37] <jorrit> csilk, I don't know, but I thnik that would be the most useful for you, or not?
[19:38] <hwilde_> if "ssh -tt serverV ssh serverH" works from command line, why doesn't it work from .ssh/config ProxyCommand
[19:38] <austin> csilk, how do i chek that? i think 8.0
[19:38] <DJBC> yem2, it's easier to use a text editor to write the actual program and then compile and run it from there
[19:38] <Sake> jorrit, thanks, trying it out
[19:38] <omac> yem2... google g++/gcc/boost how pdf
[19:38] <csilk> austin,  ok.. go to system?administration>hardware drivers
[19:39] <erichammond> airtonix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/MobilePhone talks about one mobile phone.  I actually have a connection working through a mobile phone, but I'd like to buy one of those dedicated cards and am not sure which ones would be the easiest to get working with Ubuntu.
[19:39] <csilk> ** system>administration>hardware drivers
[19:39] <jorrit> Sake, most of the times, reinstalling is much faster than tinkering with all kinds of settings ;-)
[19:39] <Pirate_Hunter> ZorbaTHut: ok than but have you tried to reinstall packages or purge them sorry youre going to them one by one
[19:40] <austin> cslik, then what?
[19:40] <austin> csilk, ok. then what when it comes up?
[19:40] <Sake> jorrit, I ended up just erasing my .mozilla-thunderbird folder and it seems to have done the trick (didn't have much set up except my gmail imap)
[19:40] <csilk> austin,  is there a grfx driver there listed as in use or not in use?
[19:40] <Sake> jorrit, Maybe I'll uninstall and re-install too.
[19:40] <cherico> help me please god
[19:41] <Ickmund> Anyone have spdif working with a nForce 3 chipset?
[19:41] <Bikerbob> anyone want to try my mach64 issue? its really only about installing something from a deb from the commandline
[19:41] <austin> csilk, there is nothing listed
[19:41] <Cylon7> hi there, i need some help with an IBM thinkpad, ati mobility radeon 7500
[19:41] <cherico> anyone know how to install this ?    NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run
[19:41] <csilk> austin, in that case ubuntu hasnt recognised or found a driver for your grfx card, i didnt think that issue was a problem in hardy heron
[19:41] <csilk> hmm
[19:42] <Slart> cherico: why not use envyng instead..
[19:42] <jorrit> Sake, In that case some of your settings of your previous install went haywire. Glad to hear that everything is running properly again :-D
[19:42] <austin> csilk, what should i do
[19:42] <cherico> doesnt work
[19:42] <Slart> cherico: or use the restricted drivers
[19:42] <cherico> it messes with my res
[19:42] <lucas_> cherico, just go to a terminal and move to the directory it's placed in, then type sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run, I believe.
[19:42] <DJBC> how do i change my nick on any IRC channel?
[19:42] <Cylon7> DJBC  type /nick
[19:42] <Izinucs> DJBC: /nick <new nick>
[19:43] <jorrit> cherico, you might want to backup your /etc tree first...it is quite invasive
[19:43] <csilk> austin,  in the terminal  lspci  then paste the output at pastecode.com for me to see
[19:43] <cherico> how to backup ? lol im newb
[19:43] <hejux> lucax: that's all right, i got it , add mount option to the fstab like : umask=0000 or umask=0222  ,the first let all user to RW the partition and the second let all user to Read only the partition ...
[19:43] <Slart> cherico: go to a tty or choice, stop gdm , run sudo sh NVIDIAblablabla.run, start gdm.. be sure to install kernel headers and build-essential first
[19:43] <cherico> ...
[19:43] <cherico> vnc me ?
[19:43] <jorrit> cherico: you can use cpio, backuppc, or amanda for that
[19:43] <omac> cherico,  Click applications->accessories->Terminal.   Then sudo bash.  Then run that NVIDIAblahblah.run script from there.   Just use tar for that...
[19:44] <rjelliso> Eric wants you to know he's updating his journal
[19:44] <Cylon7> it's supposed to just work, it did in 0704
[19:44] <rjelliso> He's worried James will tell you he didn't do anything
[19:44] <cherico> lol u guys i just got ubuntu :C
[19:44] <austin> csilk, what do i do at that wed site?
[19:44] <huitang> i love wifi. as i know china havent
[19:44] <jorrit> cherico: Sorry ;-)
[19:45] <csilk_> austin,  paste the output from the lspci command
[19:45] <csilk_> then send me the link so i can read it
[19:45] <csilk_> huitang,  you wouldnt if you were using my wifi
[19:45] <cherico> sudo: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run: command not found
[19:46] <omac> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run
[19:46] <jorrit> cherico, try this sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run
[19:46] <virginiatiger> Ello
[19:46] <omac> cherico...you need to change directory to where the run script was downloaded.
[19:46] <virginiatiger> I would like to remove tsclient but it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <cherico> i put cd /home
[19:46] <jorrit> omac, cherico : yes, for starters.
[19:47] <cherico> thts where it is
[19:47] <Dragon> Sudo is still giving me the error /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0 I even followed the instructions from that thread
[19:47] <Flannel> virginiatiger: That's likely.  And no big deal, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[19:47] <m4fia> Hey, i have a ATI Readon 2400HD Pro on my system, it runs but the screen looks like its vibrating really fast, and everything is really hard to read
[19:47] <DCPom> does anyone have a link to the fix sound in ubuntu thread?
[19:47] <Flannel> Dragon: Which instructions did you follow?
[19:47] <austin> csilk, file:///home/austin/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[19:47] <csilk_> m4fia,  i am running the same card
[19:48] <virginiatiger> Flannel, ok, but would it not remove the packages in the meta package?
[19:48] <Izinucs> !sound > DCP
[19:48] <lucax> Dragon: i had that problem before, i solve it restarting ubuntu in failsafe and changing sudoers permissions...
[19:48] <m4fia> csilk_, ok well did you have this problem, or know of a fix?
[19:48] <austin> csilk, austin@austin-laptop:~$  lspci
[19:48] <austin> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
[19:48] <austin> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 11)
[19:48] <austin> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03)
[19:48] <austin> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
[19:48] <FloodBot2> austin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <austin> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03)
[19:48] <Izinucs> !audio > DCPom
[19:48] <Flannel> virginiatiger: No, metapackages only add stuff.  removing them wont remove stuff.
[19:48] <csilk_> m4fia,  no i dont have that problem
[19:48] <virginiatiger> Ok
[19:48] <Dragon> Flannel: hold on a sec lemme pull up the link
[19:48] <jorrit> austin, try the pastebin instead ;-)
[19:48] <m4fia> csilk_, well i mean i went from a different card, is there something i have to do to fix this?
[19:49] <Dragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4296191&postcount=2
[19:49] <austin> Sorry :(
[19:49] <csilk_> m4fia, i would try re-installing the dirver, honestly i  have never known anyone haveing issues with the ATI radeon 2400 HD
[19:49] <cherico> cant someone vnc me and see whats the problem is ?
[19:49] <csilk_> austin,  use pastebin
[19:49] <omac> cherico...is your ubuntu username "cherico" also?  I am surprised you went "cd /home".  Usually firefox saves downloads at the desktop which would be "cd /home/cherico/Desktop"
[19:49] <Flannel> Dragon: you're in recovery mode right now?
[19:49] <cherico> yes
[19:49] <lucax> Dragon: Reboot with a "recovery mode" kernel and type the following in terminal  "chown root /etc/sudoers"
[19:49] <austin> csilk, what do i do there?
[19:50] <xiven> Hey
[19:50] <cherico> i switched it ot save to home
[19:50] <xiven> Anyone know how to randomize your IP in Ubuntu?
[19:50] <m4fia> csilk_, i did "try" to reinstall the driver . i mean i think i reinstalled it, but i couldnt really read what was going on, as everything is really shifty, i think its the driver
[19:50] <Slart> xiven: eh.. just disconnect your ethernet cable and use ifconfig
[19:50] <Macro_Zzz> xiven, why?
[19:50] <Dragon> lucax,Flannel, I'll be back in chat on recovery mode in 1 min
[19:51] <jorrit> Slart, [xiven, th...] :->
[19:51] <xiven> How can you use ifconfig to randomize?
[19:51] <lucax> Dragon: ok man...
[19:51] <Slart> xiven: think of a random ip-address.. then write ifconfig <your randomg ip-address>
[19:51] <Flannel> Dragon: You don't need to chat, just do this once you get there:  `chown root:root /etc/sudoers` and then `init 2`
[19:51] <xiven> I don't think that would work necessarily
[19:52] <xiven> As, I am behind a router
[19:52] <csilk__> anyone else using BE as their isp?
[19:52] <omac> cherico: ok.  Have you managed to run the NVIDIAblablah.run script yet?  cd /home/;./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run
[19:52] <cherico> nothing works without the driver that i want to do man and i do envy and it shows this black bar at the right side of my screen and then it wont go up pass 800x600 resolution
[19:52] <Macro_Zzz> xiven, so why do you want a random ip?
[19:52] <Slart> xiven: well you're the one thinking you can just randomize your ip-address and make it work
[19:52] <austin> csilk, what so i do with paskban im confused
[19:52] <Slart> xiven: =)
[19:52] <lucax> is it possible to install eAR multimedia center on ubuntu?
[19:52] <cherico> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run: command not found
[19:52] <Slart> cherico: sudo sh NVIDIAblablabla.. as I said
[19:53] <csilk__> austin,  you need to copy and paste into pastebin then click submit
[19:53] <xiven> I am learning about security
[19:53] <csilk__> then send me the link to your submission
[19:53] <cherico> put blabla bla ?
[19:53] <xiven> That's why.
[19:53] <xiven> I'm trying to learn everything I can about security
[19:53] <jorrit> !security
[19:53] <Slart> cherico: no.. it's the filename of the NVIDIA driver file..
[19:53] <xiven> primarily that which might be used or tweaked by illegals
[19:53] <m4fia> csilk__, also when i restart the computer it doesnt read the gfx card
[19:53] <jorrit> xiven: ^
[19:53] <valentinex1> how to install a .sh extension file in ubuntu?
[19:53] <austin> csilk, copy and paste what?
[19:53] <csilk__> what do you mean "read"
[19:54] <csilk__> austin,  the output of lspci
[19:54] <xiven> It's for a website I am putting up, explaning to computer dummies how to stay protected
[19:54] <csilk__> the thing you just pasted a minute ago
[19:54] <Macro_Zzz> !redirection > jorrit
[19:54] <Slart> xiven: pick up a book about basic networking first, you'll find it hard doing network security without knowing about networks
[19:54] <cherico> w.e i just dont get this i wish i never took my windows off
[19:55] <csilk__> cherico,  whats your problem?
[19:55] <m4fia> csilk__, when i restart it doesnt start the monitor like it doesnt know the gfx card is there, i have to put in the old gfc card, then restart and then shut down, put in the new one, and restart and it works
[19:55] <austin> csilk, is the output everthing that the command generated?
[19:55] <cherico> my driver
[19:55] <litel> Hi do somebody know a good music player, because rythmbox don't work and vlc don't have a play liste systeme or something close ...
[19:55] <csilk__> m4fia,  thats odd, deffinatly something wrong with your xorg configuration
[19:55] <valentinex1> i got a secret file for ubuntu in .sh extension i want to install but how?
[19:55] <Flannel> cherico: Have you tried the restricted drivers manager?  That's the best thing you can do.
[19:55] <case^> cherico - there is a lot to take in
[19:55] <cherico> envy ?
[19:55] <Flannel> !nvidia | cherico
[19:55] <case^> stick with it
[19:55] <Slart> litel: audacious is like winamp minus the music library stuff
[19:55] <Slart> litel: or amarok
[19:56] <csilk__> cherico,  dont use envy
[19:56] <Dragon> sudo still isn't working after those commands...
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter> !envy
[19:56] <litel> Slart thx :)
[19:56] <Slart> !envyng
[19:56] <jorrit> cherico, You'll get used to it. Ubuntu can do so much, it can be intimidating at first.
[19:56] <Xecration> When I try to rename a folder "> rename php5.3-200809191630 php5.3-source" it throws the error "Bareword "php5" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1." How can I get around this?
[19:56] <m4fia> csilk__, i ran the xorg reconfigure
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart: just wanted to find out what it was should made the bot show that to me privately
[19:56] <cherico> i tried envy it didnt go well so i uninstalled now i have nothing
[19:57] <cherico> and i cant enable my driver cuz i get the black screen everytime i restart
[19:57] <csilk__> m4fia,  honestly6, it will probably be quicker to re-insatll ubutnu than spend hours figuring out what part of xorg is screwing your system up
[19:57] <omac> Go to the nvidia web site.  Get NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
[19:57] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: you can pm the bot and use all commands there.. or > to send a factoid in pm, | to just tell them in channel
[19:57] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: those are just a few of the commands
[19:57] <cherico> i already have it
[19:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart: just realised after you tried to copy the command & phailed at it :x
[19:58] <Dragon> I'm getting the error sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0
[19:58] <Dragon>  whenever I use the sudo command
[19:58] <Slart> Xecration: rename? is that a command? usually you use "mv" to rename files..
[19:58] <Flannel> cherico: and you've tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:58] <cherico> i had it before but it said it need to be set as root
[19:58] <omac> cherico, did you ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run?
[19:58] <Flannel> Dragon: Did you chown them in recovery console?
[19:58] <jorrit> cherico, try vga=771 on the kernel line in GRUB to see if that helps you.
[19:58] <csilk__> austin,  you still there?
[19:58] <Xecration> oh
[19:58] <SchneeSchwarz> Xecration: try mv instead of rename. man rename
[19:58] <Xecration> i always thought rename was used to change file names
[19:58] <Dragon> Flannel: yes didn't work
[19:58] <Slart> Xecration: rename is some kind of perl mass renaming thingy
[19:58] <Flannel> Dragon: what do you mean it didn't work?
[19:58] <austin> csilk, yep
[19:58] <Xecration> thanks! brb ill give it a try
[19:58] <Dragon> Flannel: Well if it was supposed to fix the error it didn't
[19:59] <jorrit> cherico, vga=771 puts your graphics mode in safe-mode, without acceleration, but you might get a decent image that way.
[19:59] <Flannel> Dragon: alright, what does this give you: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[19:59] <Xecration> well apparently im a noob =P
[19:59] <Xecration> thx a ton that did the trick
[19:59] <Flannel> jorrit, cherico: That's not safe mode.   that just adjusting your tty settings
[19:59] <Dragon> Flannel: -r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-09-01 07:38 /etc/sudoers
[19:59] <ToHellWithGA> do any of y'all have experience making memory card readers on laptops work in linux?
[20:00] <jim_p> hi there
[20:00] <valentinex1> how to make your ubuntu run faster by disabling some feautres? like it was in windows to turn graphics visual etc
[20:00] <Flannel> Dragon: alright.  Pastebin this file please: /etc/passwd
[20:00] <ToHellWithGA> oops
[20:00] <jorrit> Flannel, well, it worked for me when first installing Ubuntu 8.04. The nv drivers gave me garbage, even on the plain command line, let alone X
[20:01] <Ickmund> If I get a sound when hitting 'Test' in the Sound options (under System), why on earth won't it play anything in say xbmc, vlc, mplayer or even aplay?
[20:01] <jim_p> valentinex1: turn off any unesecary services with sysvconfig, use a ligter windows manager
[20:01] <Pirate_Hunter> valentinex1: by defualt graphic visual etc is turned off by defualt, depending on the system you installed it you might have to remove certain packages or even do a bare install of ubuntu
[20:01] <Bikerbob> what is the script I modify so that I can have items mounted @ boot?
[20:01] <bastid_raZor> Bikerbob; /etc/fstab and what things are you referring to?
[20:02] <chubs> Bikerbob, /etc/fstab and specify automount. not actually a script but a file that a script calls
[20:02] <jorrit> Ickmund, try selecting another sounddemon, like ALSA/eSound/OSS, you can do that from System -> preferences -> Sound
[20:02] <Slart> Bikerbob: etc/fstab is the normal way
[20:02] <Slart> !fstab
[20:02] <Bikerbob> I have some "other" partitions I want mounted so I dont have to do it every time I log on.
[20:02] <jorrit> !mtab
[20:02] <Izinucs> Dragon:  to make pasting easier.. install.. sudo apt-get install pastebinit .. then just cat /etc/sudoers | pastebinit and it will return a pastebin address to pass along.
[20:02] <austin> csilk, are you still there?
[20:02] <danny> Allo all
[20:02] <csilk> austin,  yes
[20:02] <Flannel> Bikerbob: yes, that's fstab that you'll edit
[20:02] <jorrit> danny, hi
[20:02] <danny> Anyonnnne running two soundcards through Ubuntu?
[20:03] <Dragon> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m6a983f27
[20:03] <Ickmund> jorrit: It's under System -> Preferences -> Sound that I get sound to start with. There and only there. :P And only using one of the options as well...
[20:03] <Macro_Zzz> Ickmund, make sure all volume settings are turned up (master, pcm, etc.)
[20:03] <Bikerbob> anyone know how to install a .deb by the command line?
[20:03] <omac> Ickmund, make sure your Sound System is running alsa.
[20:03] <Slart> danny: yes
[20:03] <chubs> Bikerbob, if they're already in /etc/fstab then you can add automount. if not you need to add them
[20:03] <austin> csilk, so what do i do about the thingy
[20:03] <Macro_Zzz> Ickmund, and make sure they arent muted
[20:03] <dreamnid> Bikerbob: "dpkg -i filename"
[20:03] <Slart> Bikerbob: sudo dpkg -i <debfilehere>
[20:03] <jorrit> Ickmund, so, which option yielded sound?
[20:03] <Bikerbob> ok
[20:03] <dreamnid> Bikerbob: sorry " sudo dpkg -i file"
[20:03] <Bikerbob> thaks
[20:03] <Ickmund> Macro_Zzz: How would I do this? alsamixer?
[20:03] <Flannel> Dragon: You have tried to create a root user for some reason?  What were you doing when you broke it?
[20:03] <csilk> austin, in terminal type lspic  copy the output and paste it at pastebin.com then send me the link
[20:03] <csilk> ** lspci
[20:03] <Macro_Zzz> Ickmund, yes
[20:04] <netsurf3> can someone help me i appear to be getting a crash relating to this error
[20:04] <netsurf3> heci: schedule work the heci_bh_handler failed error=
[20:04] <netsurf3> 0
[20:04] <Dragon> Flannel: I don't know it just stopped working
[20:04] <Ickmund> jorrit: The NVidia CK8S - IEC958
[20:04] <austin> csilk, what is the output
[20:04] <omac> Ickmund, System->preferences->sound...select alsa
[20:04] <Ickmund> Macro_Zzz: Apart from that I can't find a mute option there, they're all maxed out
[20:04] <jorrit> Macro_Zzz, do you know anything about getting midi to work?
[20:04] <Flannel> Dragon: Well, you did something with groups to get it to stop working.  Do you remember what it was? That'd make fixing it a lot nicer.
[20:04] <opt1k> what's a good alternative to adobe's dreamweaver for linux?
[20:04] <thorny_sun> is there a way to tar -xzvf blah.tar.gz to_dir ?  i.e. put the contents somwehere else than the current dir?
[20:04] <csilk> austin,  what comes up after you do lspci
[20:04] <Flannel> !html | opt1k
[20:04] <Ickmund> omac: No sound when doing 'test'
[20:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart, Bikerbob: dpkg yes but if you want the dependencies to be sorted out for you than try sudo gdebi and [packagename]
[20:05] <Macro_Zzz> jorrit, no, never used midi before
[20:05] <valentinex1> jim_p:   Pirate_Hunter: thanks
[20:05] <opt1k> Flannel: ty
[20:05] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: isn't gdebi just a front for dkpg?
[20:05] <omac> jorrit, you need to ensure your system is using the sound card drivers for your sound card.
[20:05] <Dragon> Flannel no idea my groups looks fine to me i have nyself as admin and root thats it
[20:05] <Flannel> Slart: gdebi resolves depends
[20:05] <Xecration> How do you reamove a whole directory via terminal? "rm ThisDirectory" doesn't work
[20:05] <csilk> Xecration,  rm -r
[20:05] <austin> csilk, under what syntaxhighlight?
[20:06] <Xecration> thx
[20:06] <jorrit> omac, you mean the kernel modules? I'll paste a lsmod for you, just a moment...
[20:06] <csilk> austin,  doesnt matter what, plain text if possible
[20:06] <Flannel> Dragon: we know what the error is, we're just hoping we'd be able to figure out why it is what it is.
[20:06] <Slart> Flannel, Pirate_Hunter: ah.. didn't know that.. nice.. Thanks
[20:06] <Hiding-Bananas> Hi dont know if any one can help, or even how to really explain, but when i try to watch videos on line the films always seem to be..um.............skippy,jumpy,bad frame rate, um......not very smooth
[20:06] <Ickmund> I should perhaps state this is spdif... analog works fine
[20:06] <Macro_Zzz> Ickmund, the m key toggles mute on a channel
[20:06] <Tobias92> Say, ubuntu people, has anybody got an ipod touch syncing with ubuntu? I'm considering to buy one, but I'll base my decision on whether it works with ubuntu
[20:06] <Pirate_Hunter> slart: nah you can run that on shell/bash/terminal try it, it wont call the gui
[20:06] <austin> csilk, then what i copied it?
[20:07] <Dragon> Flannel: Yeah i understand but i honestly have no idea what i did to mess it up i don't remember touching my groups in ages
[20:07] <csilk> austin,  paste it into pastebin then sne me the link
[20:07] <jorrit> omac, her you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48381/
[20:07] <csilk> *send
[20:07] <niche> What is the terminal command to copy a file from my home directory to another directory?
[20:07] <omac> jorrit, when you double click the speaker icon, it will display the name of the driver in the title bar. i.e. Volume Control:  Sis ...blah blah.
[20:07] <austin> csilk, oh
[20:07] <fogobogo> niche: cp ?
[20:07] <niche> fogobogo, cp and then what?
[20:07] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: indeed it did.. just like apt but for local debs.. guess I've only seen gdebi when I doubleclick debs..
[20:07] <jorrit> omac, that would be VIA 8237 (Alsa mixer)
[20:07] <austin> csilk, http://pastecode.com/m3596816e
[20:07] <sandsmark-away> niche: ~ = your home dir
[20:08] <sandsmark-away> niche: ~username = home dir of username
[20:08] <ganesh> no title bar for firefox and its there everything else..how to fix it?
[20:08] <Ickmund> Macro_Zzz: Ah, I see. Pretty much everything but master was muted, no go unmuting thou
[20:08] <fogobogo> niche: cp fromA toB
[20:08] <ainvar> afternnon all
[20:08] <Xecration> Does anyone here have experience setting up and successfully running ventrilo via wine on ubuntu?
[20:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart: np i actually found that out by accident *but lets keep that between us*
[20:08] <csilk> austin,  what laoptop you using?
[20:09] <Flannel> Dragon: alright.  Lets see if this will work.  reboot to the recovery console, and do this: usermod -g 0 root    then chmod root:root /etc/sudoers
[20:09] <Dragon> Flannel: so do you have any idea how to fix it I've been attemping to fix it for hours now
[20:09] <Flannel> Dragon: (then init 2)
[20:09] <austin> csilk, toshiba 8200
[20:09] <Dragon> Flannel: K 1 sex
[20:09] <Hiding-Bananas> ok 1 last question i have ubuntu and vista on the same system, if i install usb chipsets from vista does that effect the usb ports in ubuntu as well.
[20:09] <ainvar> I have a question maybe someone can help me out with. I have googled on this but have not found anything very informative for me. I have a ITRONIX DUO-Touch model IX325
[20:09] <thorny_sun> is there a way to extract the contents of a tar.gz into a different dir from the current dir?
[20:09] <ainvar> I am trying to install Ubuntu or a version of Ububtu on it
[20:09] <jorrit> omac, it show only these channels: Master, PCM, Lin-In, CD and Mic. I can select a lot of others though, but none like seq, or midi or so.
[20:09] <pman1> Zeus:  This is what I Don't understand.  If I installed ubuntu differently than I thought, it still did everything automatically and said it would run with windows, why would it overwrite windows instead of creating a new partion or something.  Since it said it would work with windows why would it ever basically reformat my hard drive and write over everything?
[20:09] <csilk> austin,  yeah your grfx card is Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP
[20:09] <ainvar> this is a tablet with no mouse or keyboard
[20:09] <Flannel> Dragon: actually, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/group while you're at it?
[20:10] <austin> csilk, what does that mea?
[20:10] <Hiding-Bananas> pman1,  depends which option you chose
[20:10] <ganesh> no title bar for firefox.. its covering whole screen...how to fix it?
[20:10] <SchneeSchwarz> ganadist: F11
[20:10] <niche> Okay so what's the exact code if I want to move a file called "1st" from my home directory to ./aug/7th/ ?
[20:10] <Dragon> flannelhttp://pastebin.com/m1788b07b
[20:10] <SchneeSchwarz> ganesh: F11
[20:10] <SchneeSchwarz> ganadist: sorry
[20:10] <omac> I checked your listing.  You have some midi drivers running.
[20:11] <Dragon> Flannel: alright so should i try it now?
[20:11] <sandsmark-away> niche: mv ~/1st ./aug/7th
[20:11] <Flannel> Dragon: Ah, ok, hold up on that previous command
[20:11] <csilk> austin,  thats the name of your graphics card, I'm looking if there is a driver available now
[20:11] <thorny_sun> niche: mv 1st ./aug/7th
[20:11] <niche> Thanks!
[20:11] <sandsmark-away> niche: and then some "man mv" =)
[20:11] <Flannel> Dragon: the issue is your "root" group has a UID of 1002 (first line in /etc/group) it should be 0.
[20:11] <Pirate_Hunter> ainvar: i cant help you but how much do those cost originally cause ive just searched for it and one site starts selling them from $2k onwards 0.o
[20:11] <Bikerbob_> ok fstab is not really in a format I understand..
[20:11] <austin> csilk, oh thanks
[20:11] <fogobogo> hi sandsmark-away ! you mom is feeling better?
[20:11] <Hiding-Bananas> niche, if you dont want to use terminal commands to do a lot of your work, type sudo nautilus and you can work as root from a graphic way
[20:12] <Dragon> Flannel: so is there an easy way to just change it to 0
[20:12] <FFighter> is there a way to give tilda autofocus when you press F1?
[20:12] <Flannel> Dragon: try this instead (in recovery console): groupmod -g 0 root
[20:12] <ainvar> Pirate_Hunter: not sure it was given to me
[20:12] <thorny_sun> sandsmark-away: you know how to extract tar contents into a different dir thant he current one?
[20:12] <Bikerbob_> do I enter the information just like I would on a mount command? type etc?
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Hiding-Bananas sudo nautilus is very dangerous...  gksudo is much better
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> ainvar: ah ok than
[20:12] <ainvar> I dig it, a little heavy but it is waterproof
[20:12] <sandsmark-away> thorny_sun: man tar, but I think it's "-c other/directory"
[20:12] <ainvar> which is nice
[20:12] <pman1> jorrit: are you in the room now?
[20:12] <Macro_Zzz> thorny_sun, i think its the -c option
[20:12] <ABCme> hi all
[20:12] <sandsmark-away> Macro_Zzz: slowass =p
[20:12] <Hiding-Bananas> Jack_Sparrow, and gksudo
[20:12] <ainvar> if you are looking for a nice one from them, check out the duo-touch II
[20:12] <Ickmund> No, I give up. It's analog stereo instead of surround until I can afford a proper htpc or I tire and go back to windows, whatever comes first :P
[20:13] <jorrit> pman1: I am, but not in a separate room, why?
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> ainvar: nice probably thats why the price is so high, water proof wow
[20:13] <sandsmark-away> Jack_Sparrow: what's the difference between gksu and sudo?
[20:13] <erichammond> \
[20:13] <ainvar> also the panasonic tuffbook tablets are right on also if you are looking for a solid ruggedized tablet
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[20:13] <Flannel> sandsmark-away: there is none
[20:13] <ganesh> SchneeSchwarz: its just a temporary fix..and still no title bar..
[20:13] <sandsmark-away> Jack_Sparrow: sudo -i sets up the environment
[20:13] <Flannel> sandsmark-away: or at least, not on any supported version of ubuntu.
[20:13] <__Typh> How can I give www-data permission to run env. I can't really seem to find single user/file permissions
[20:13] <Bikerbob_> anyone good with fstab.. can I ask you format?
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel: yes there is....
[20:13] <ainvar> you can also get some of the later models for a smaller price if you are not looking for the latest and greatest
[20:13] <linxeh> Bikerbob_: whats the problem
[20:13] <Macro_Zzz> Bikerbob, say what?
[20:13] <pman1> I tried to ask Zeus this question but he didn't answer so since you were helping me before, I thought I would ask you.  This is what I Don't understand.  If I installed ubuntu differently than I thought, it still did everything automatically and said it would run with windows, why would it overwrite windows instead of creating a new partion or something.  Since it said it would work with windows why would it ever basically reformat my hard drive and write
[20:13] <Flannel> Pirate_Hunter: no, gksu and gksudo are symlinked
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sandsmark-away gksudo for gui apps...
[20:14] <sandsmark-away> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[20:14] <SchneeSchwarz> ganesh: the I don't know
[20:14] <Vladimir[LV]> Please, advice me some manual, how to create mail server with virtual users, but without using mysql..!
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sandsmark-away Read the link I gave.. it explains it quite clearly
[20:14] <Bikerbob_> need to know the format to automount /dev/sda5 in fstab
[20:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel: oh i am sure he asked the difference between sudo and gksudo oh well my bad sorry
[20:14] <linxeh> Vladimir[LV]: look into qmail and its various poppers etc
[20:14] <Bikerbob_> dont understand the options?
[20:14] <thorny_sun> sandsmark-away: Macro_Zzz: sorry man-ed it but couldn't find it-- now i could with your help-- it's -C.  thanks!!
[20:14] <Flannel> Pirate_Hunter: ah, that could be.
[20:14] <Hiding-Bananas> you have to select the option you want if you choose to install on the whole disk it will delete every thing
[20:14] <linxeh> Bikerbob_: man fstab :)
[20:14] <ABCme> my ubuntu box does not detect swap automatically. so right now i dont have any swap and its running very slow. what should i do?
[20:14] <Pretto> any udev master here?
[20:14] <pman1> Jorrit: I tried to ask Zeus this question but he didn't answer so since you were helping me before, I thought I would ask you.  This is what I Don't understand.  If I installed ubuntu differently than I thought, it still did everything automatically and said it would run with windows, why would it overwrite windows instead of creating a new partion or something.  Since it said it would work with windows why would it ever basically reformat my hard driv
[20:15] <sandsmark-away> thorny_sun: great =)
[20:15] <ganesh> any one....no title bar for firefox...and not able to change screen resolution..how to fix?
[20:15] <linxeh> Bikerbob_: something like      /dev/sda5 /mnt/point/here defaults 0 0
[20:15] <omac> jorrit, cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[20:15] <linxeh> Bikerbob_: but with a filesystem type included in there ;-)
[20:15] <Pirate_Hunter> sandsmark-away: did you even read the link from obutu it exaplains why, dont do it but than it is your system
[20:15] <Macro_Zzz> Bikerbob, the format for adding to fstab is: <device> <mount point> <type> <options>
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ABCme HOw much ram do you have, swap is seldom used on most boxes
[20:15] <sandsmark-away> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, it went right past me, it didn't highlight here, and there's a lot of noice
[20:15] <Seveas> yarr landlubbers ☠
[20:15] <sandsmark-away> *noise
[20:15] <jorrit> omac, I will, just a sec
[20:15] <Flannel> sandsmark-away: gksu (and gksudo) sets up the environment more appropriately for a graphical program than sudo does.  Using sudo can leave you unable to login (without fixing the issues it causes)
[20:15] <Pretto> i am wondering why my udev is creaating sequential  devices   when i plug/unplug my    usb modem
[20:15] <Macro_Zzz> gah, im slow today
[20:15] <sandsmark-away> Flannel: what kind of issues?
[20:15] <Seveas> Pretto, because it's configured to do so :)
[20:16] <hanasakiRemote> what isa good opensource ubuntu package for hosting like cpanel but free
[20:16] <hanasakiRemote> ??
[20:16] <sandsmark-away> Flannel: I'm interested, because I've never had any trouble with using sudo -i, and I can't think of any reasons it should break anything =)
[20:16] <Xecration> I have the latest stable MySQL installed but when I go to ./configure my php5.3 source it says that mysql is not available... how does this happen?
[20:16] <opt1k> Does anyone know what Quanta+ version is in the repos?
[20:16] <jorrit> omac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/48384/
[20:16] <Pretto> Seveas, is there a way  to make it fix in one device?
[20:16] <langz1> Hi guys
[20:16] <SchneeSchwarz> ganesh: you could try to start firefox in safe-mode and see if that changes anything. firefox -safe-mode
[20:16] <Flannel> sandsmark-away: things in your homedir being owned by root.  Also, sudo -i doesn't run a program, it opens a shell.
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sandsmark-away READ the link for psychocats
[20:16] <FFighter> how can I change the alt-tab app switching widget from showing sshots of the apps to simple icons?
[20:16] <Seveas> Pretto, most likely the old device isn't removed because the kernel isn't sending the appropriate signal to udev (in time) or because your modem identifies differently all the time
[20:16] <langz1> Dont know if this topic will be covered here
[20:16] <ABCme> Jack_Sparrow: only 256 MB
[20:17] <Seveas> Pretto, google for 'udev debugging' or 'kevent monitoring' to find out more
[20:17] <Pirate_Hunter> opt1k: why cant you check yourself it just a simple command such as apt-cache search/policy
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ABCme ouch..
[20:17] <Pretto> Seveas, I had to make my own rule to  detect it correctly
[20:17] <opt1k> Pirate_Hunter: didn't know, ty for info
[20:17] <Seveas> Pretto, ah, option 3: buggy rule =)
[20:17] <eight> !gksudo > sandsmark-away
[20:17] <jStefan> it seems NetworkManager 0.7 supports system wide wireless configs, but that's on intrepid. How can I achieve similar results on 8.04 ?
[20:17] <jorrit> omac, it shows that both Synth and Midi are not enabled in config, but I don't know how to configure ALSA so they will be configured correctly. I even asked on the ALSA channel...
[20:17] <langz1> Got a problem with Ubuntus Point to Point internet connection
[20:17] <Dragon> Flannel: I did the command still get the same error
[20:17] <Seveas> jStefan, not.
[20:17] <ABCme> Jack_Sparrow: haha yeah...or maybe i should switch to a lighter distro if there are any
[20:17] <langz1> can anyone help
[20:17] <Dragon> Flannel: sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0
[20:17] <Pretto> hahha.. Seveas, it could be a bug rule, since i dont know much about it
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ABCme xubuntu is a bit lighter
[20:18] <jorrit> langz1, just ask your question
[20:18] <Seveas> jStefan, (well, there is a way, involving voodoo with /etc/network/interfaces)
[20:18] <Flannel> Dragon: Ok, Just take a peek in /etc/group is the root group now 0 instead of 1002?
[20:18] <ABCme> Jack_Sparrow: ok. but how do i get my swap on?
[20:18] <Aska> A
[20:18] <jStefan> Seveas, would a live CD session of alpha6 give me hints on what the config should look like for 8.04?
[20:18] <fogobogo> langz1: you mean you have trouble using torrent for adult movies?
[20:18] <jorrit> ABCme, try swapon
[20:18] <langz1> Ok well I am already connected to the net. I want to create another dial up PPPOE connection
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ABCme gparted has that option, I dont know how to do it manually
[20:18] <pman1> Jorrit:  Is it common for ubuntu to just overwrite every single file in my C drive when I install it?  Becuase that is what it must have done.  Why would it not have just created a new partion. Or better yet done what it said and worked with Windows.  Do you think I can contact the organization or some paid support and get some help to find my windows files?
[20:19] <Seveas> langz1, ppp connections will be much better supported in 8.10. I know that's probably a useless answer for you right now but it gives you something to look forward to ;)
[20:19] <Bikerbob_> so how does this look  "/dev/sda5<tab>/mnt/mac<tab>hfs<tab>defaults<tab>0<tab>0"
[20:19] <Pirate_Hunter> ABCme: if you want your system to be faster remove system packages, try a lighter windows manager (WM) such as icewm, JWM or if you really want control of what is in your system do a bare minimum install
[20:19] <ABCme> jorrit: nothing happens
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[20:19] <Seveas> jStefan, not at all. 'man interfaces' may help and the documentation of the wpasupplicant package.
[20:19] <langz1> so currently that option is not available
[20:19] <Pirate_Hunter> jorrit: dont think swap will help much maybe make somewhat a difference
[20:19] <langz1> ?
[20:19] <badfish> is there a way to comb a directory and it's subdirectories and delete every instance of desktop.ini? or do i have to do it one by one?
[20:19] <Dragon> Flannel: I think so if this means yes then well yes   root:x:0:
[20:19] <jStefan> Seveas, i'll look into that, other option seems to be auto-login :S
[20:19] <Seveas> jStefan, but upgrading to 8.10 alpha isn't too scary either :)
[20:19] <jStefan> Seveas, thanks
[20:20] <gwash> badfish: man find
[20:20] <jorrit> pman1, I'm not really sure if Ubuntu did that...remember the message from Zeus? "I wonder where sda3 and sda4 went..."
[20:20] <langz1> and no fogo I dont want to download adult movies
[20:20] <Bikerbob_> anyone see it?
[20:20] <jStefan> Seveas, this is a system i could benefit from LTS, as I dont want to touch it in a long time ;)
[20:20] <Seveas> gwash, now what if man can't find the manpage of find. Would one use find to tell man where to find the manpage for find? :)
[20:20] <pman1> jorrit: yes what did that mean?
[20:20] <Seveas> jStefan, ok :)
[20:20] <Flannel> Dragon: alright, so we've fixed that.  Now, /etc/passwd still has (on the first line) x:0:1002: right?
[20:20] <Hiding-Bananas> ok because every one is asking questions i have to ask too, how do i delete my history in the terminal
[20:20] <omac> jorrit, aconnect -i
[20:20] <Ockonal> Hi, i've a problem with internet and Linux. I have adsl internet and modem in bridge-mode, tried this: pppoeconf; pon dsl-provider, but it didn't work! It wrote something about timeout and session expiried. But in windows it's all good. Help, please
[20:20] <fogobogo> langz1: why not? theres not much gaming on bubuntu
[20:20] <omac> http://www.geocities.jp/midi_organ_net/alsa/
[20:21] <dmsuperman> I'm having an issue with permissions. In short: a folder that I SHOULD be able to enter I'm denied permismsions to (I can't even cd into it) Here is relevant information: http://pastebin.com/d17572a57
[20:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: dont suggest people to update to 8.10 please unless they want to test it insinde a VM
[20:21] <Bikerbob_> so how does this look  for an fstab entry "/dev/sda5<tab>/mnt/mac<tab>hfs<tab>defaults<tab>0<tab>0"
[20:21] <dmsuperman> And I have run fsck, just this morning, but I've had this problem for a good while
[20:21] <dooglus> badfish: find . -name desktop.ini -exec rm {} ';'
[20:21] <gwash> Seveas: you lost me there
[20:21] <Dragon> Flannel: root:x:0:1002:root:/root:/bin/bash
[20:21] <omac> jorrit that url was "ALSA MIDI Tips"
[20:21] <Seveas> gwash, heh, excellent response :)
[20:21] <jorrit> omac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/48388/
[20:21] <langz1> Well..... I still got windows for the gaming side......
[20:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Hiding-Bananas: there should a be a file in you home called bash.history or something like that, delete it
[20:22] <langz1> What you don't have windows at all?
[20:22] <Seveas> dmsuperman, you need the execute permission on a folder to enter it (chmod +x)
[20:22] <jorrit> omac, thanks for the link!
[20:22] <Hiding-Bananas> Pirate_Hunter, ok thanks
[20:22] <gwash> Seveas: thanks
[20:22] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, Hiding-Bananas .bash_history :)
[20:22] <dmsuperman> Seveas: So then do I want 0755?
[20:22] <pibe> hello, how can i close my X's ?
[20:22] <badfish> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[20:22] <Dragon> Flannel: So yeah it hasn't changed
[20:22] <Seveas> dmsuperman, 0777 if you want to keep everyone-can-write which you have now
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: command exit should do the trick
[20:23] <Mion> badfish: -exec foo {} ;\
[20:23] <pibe> i am going to install nvidia drivers and i need to close X
[20:23] <gwash> badfish: just use -delete
[20:23] <Ockonal> any ideas?
[20:23] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter: let me try
[20:23] <dooglus> badfish: copy paste better?
[20:23] <Seveas> Mion, badfish escape or quote the {} and ;
[20:23] <Flannel> Dragon: alright, back to recovery console: usermod -g root root then chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[20:23] <dmsuperman> Seveas: I don't, I was just trying to get it to work
[20:23] <jorrit> pman1, It *might* mean that there are still two partittions that fdisk -l does not show, possibly Windows partitions. But don't get your hopes up yet...
[20:23] <Seveas> dmsuperman, 755 it is then
[20:23] <Mion> er.. \;
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: oh hmm forget what i said try killx
[20:24] <dmsuperman> Seveas: Thanks :D
[20:24] <badfish> find: ./.gvfs: Permission denied
[20:24] <jorrit> omac, Thanks for all the help! I'll try those tips now (they even have tips on how to enable the MIDI/ Game port SweEet! )
[20:24] <omac> jorrit, google is your friend.
[20:24] <gwash> badfish: use sudo if you don't have permission
[20:24] <badfish> that's with sudo
[20:25] <badfish> logan@logan-desktop:~$ sudo find . -name desktop.ini -exec rm '{}' ';'
[20:25] <badfish> find: ./.gvfs: Permission denied
[20:25] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter: killx? it does not work
[20:25] <queck> Hello
[20:25] <dooglus> badfish: that's ok. It just couldn't get into that dir. It got into all the others.
[20:25] <Mion> Seveas: don't need to quote the {}
[20:25] <jorrit> omac, Seriously I tried to google for that, but this link did not show.
[20:25] <Seveas> gwash, sudo doesn't help if the kernel doesn't like you
[20:25] <sandsmark-away> xkill works
[20:25] <omac> jorrit, google alsa source compile midi enabled
[20:25] <badfish> ah yes it did
[20:25] <badfish> ty
[20:25] <sandsmark-away> or ctrl+alt+escape in KDE
[20:25] <niche> Ok one more questions... How do I copy the file ./small/1st to ./big while renaming the copied file to "1stcopy" ?
[20:25] <Mion> Seveas: {} inserts the filename in a protected way already
[20:25] <pan_> what does xkill do
[20:25] <omac> You should be running alsa.
[20:25] <sandsmark-away> pan_: kills applications
[20:25] <pan_> oh
[20:25] <Seveas> gwash, badfish: .gvfs is the fuse mount for gvfs. only the user who owns it can search there
[20:25] <Mion> but the ; needs to be escaped :)
[20:25] <csilk> austin,    grep -i Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:25] <fogobogo> niche: cp and mv
[20:25] <gwash> badfish: what command did you use
[20:25] <Seveas> Mion, but the shell will interpret the {} before it reaches find :)
[20:25] <dooglus> badfish: welcome.
[20:25] <pibe> omg
[20:26] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter:  what window do i have to select
[20:26] <Mion> Seveas: [oh@Alice][~/test]%find . -name *.pdf -exec echo {} \;  -> ./sykkelkart.pdf
[20:26] <jorrit> omac, sometimes it's difficult to know what exact terms you need to search for ;-) Thxs again!
[20:26] <queck> how could I convert a group of pictures into a avi? I extracted them as pictures before (needed for vjing)
[20:26] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: are you just trying to install nvidia driver but without x you could always log out from you current session and go to a different session using ctrl+alt+ f1-f6
[20:26] <pibe> because i press ctrl alt f1
[20:26] <GSH> Hey folks. I'm trying to install ubuntu server 8.04. While installing, it used DHCP fine as far as I can tell. After reboot, it can't find the network. Running ifconfig shows *large* numbers for dropped on eth0, e.g., dropped:4294967293
[20:26] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter: yes, but i need to close my X
[20:26] <Seveas> Mion, interesting... this thing has been stored in my memory for so long and it's apparently wrong :)
[20:26] <GSH> Each time I run ifconfig, the dropped value reduces by 1
[20:26] <dooglus> Seveas: try it. no need to quote
[20:27] <Seveas> maybe an old shell from ye olde yoonix did it :)
[20:27] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: once you in those windows x shouldnt be running especially if you logged out of your previous session in f7
[20:27] <Mion> Seveas: [oh@Alice][~/test]%find . -name *.pdf -exec "echo {}" \;  -->  find: `echo ./sykkelkart.pdf': No such file or directory
[20:27] <pibe> ok i will log out
[20:27] <Mion> and "{}" works as expected too
[20:27] <fogobogo> pibe: bye bye
[20:28] <Mion> Seveas: {} beaves the same way as ${}
[20:28] <Mion> behaves*
[20:28] <babaklinux> hi
[20:28] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter: i loged out and it said i still had x opened
[20:28] <fogobogo> i like beavers
[20:28] <Macro_Zzz> hurr hurr hurr
[20:29] <GSH> The hardware is an Intel BOXD945GCLF.
[20:29] <dooglus> {}, '{}', and "{}" are all the same to the shell
[20:29] <Seveas> Macro_Zzz, no, it's HAR HAR HARRRRR!
[20:29] <fogobogo> no
[20:29] <batbuntu> msg ub
[20:29] <Dragon> Flannel: Alright i did that command, now when i enter sudo into terminal i get this,    nick@nick-desktop:~$ sudo
[20:29] <Dragon> usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v
[20:29] <Dragon> usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value]
[20:29] <Dragon>             {-i | -s | <command>}
[20:29] <Dragon> usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ...
[20:29] <Dragon> nick@nick-desktop:~$
[20:29] <FloodBot2> Dragon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <GSH> Is there a more appropriate channel for hardware issues w/ Ubuntu server 8.04?
[20:29] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: type man kill x see if that helps it explains about killing x
[20:29] <Flannel> Dragon: That means its working.
[20:29] <babaklinux> i want install xfardic but whn i type apt-get install xfardic it don't work why?
[20:30] <Flannel> Dragon: try actually doing something with it.
[20:30] <dooglus> babaklinux: put sudo in front
[20:30] <Dragon> flannel: alright 1 sec
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:30] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter: will this help? /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:31] <the_zemo> what does it mean when you try to log into ubuntu and get busybox (1.3...) iniframs prompt?
[20:31] <gwash> pibe: init 3
[20:31] <gwash> then init 5
[20:31] <Dragon> Flannel: Your a genius! It's working. Thankyou so much
[20:31] <lyk3n> hello
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> ive installed a theme in firefox3 and it makes firefox go really screwy so I cant load the addon manager to remove it and use the default theme. Can anyone advise how I can remove the theme without stripping my config back to default?
[20:31] <ShackJack1> babaklinux: Possible that package insn't in your software sources repos either... It's not in mine :)
[20:31] <dooglus> the_zemo: it's fucked
[20:31] <gwash> ActionParsnip: uninstall it
[20:31] <babaklinux> dooglus: i do but don't work
[20:31] <Seveas> the_zemo, that something broke and it cannot find your harddrive. Have you been adding/removing drives?
[20:31] <Macro_Zzz> ActionParsnip, run firefox --safe-mode
[20:31] <Flannel> !language | dooglus
[20:31] <Dragon> Flannel: I cannot thankyou enough
[20:31] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: sorry it seems im making you go all over the place but here http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> gwash: how, I cant use firefox to uninstall it as the display is completely unusable
[20:32] <Flannel> Dragon: no problem.
[20:32] <carbuntu> can someone assist me with wireless help or suggest where to get it for BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller, already been in forums but not sure on some of the language & the how to troubleshoot
[20:32] <ShackJack1> ActionParsnip: you can if you run in safe mode :)
[20:32] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, themes are stored in ~/.mozilla
[20:32] <dooglus> Flannel: bad apostrophe placement?
[20:32] <the_zemo> seveas: No, It was working a few hours ago. Now when I turn it on it goes to that prompt.
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> carbuntu: use ndiswrapper
[20:32] <babaklinux> dooglus: this error appear E: Couldn't find package xfardic
[20:32] <enzo100> Ciaooo
[20:32] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, find the theme in the filesystem and ditch it :)
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> ShackJack1: ohh, how do i achieve safemode?
[20:32] <GSH> Hey folks. I'm trying to install ubuntu server 8.04. While installing, it used DHCP fine as far as I can tell. After reboot, it can't find the network. Running ifconfig shows *large* numbers for dropped on eth0, e.g., dropped:4294967293. It can't get DHCP
[20:32] <ShackJack1> See above command ^^^
[20:32] <omac> babaklinux, etc/apt/sources.list file:  deb http://parsix.org/packages ramon main
[20:32] <Macro_Zzz> ActionParsnip, firefox -safe-mode
[20:32] <Bikerbob_> I have a pkg conflicting with one I want to install.. how do I uninstall the confliting one?
[20:32] <enzo100> !list
[20:32] <pibe> Pirate_Hunter:  thbaks that what i needed
[20:33] <madsrh> Does anyone know if enableing Firefox backspace by default has been disscused? Or witch team would know this?
[20:33] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: here is another one from ubuntuforums apparently you dont need to stop x http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145043
[20:33] <omac> xfardic is not in the standard ubuntu repositories
[20:33] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, firefox -safe-mode
[20:33] <carbuntu> ActionParsnip: carbuntu: use ndiswrapper have that installed too still no go
[20:33] <niche> Does anyone here use the newsreader program "PAN"? I keep getting ERRORS while downloading NZB files
[20:33] <the_zemo> is there a way to fix that or am I screwed?
[20:33] <jorrit> pman1, I'm sorry, your Windows' drives are really gone, it's just the way that Linux partitioning works...
[20:33] <omac> babaklinux, xfardic is not in the standard ubuntu repositories
[20:33] <Bikerbob_> do I use aptitude to remove it?
[20:33] <Pirate_Hunter> pibe: i found this just by searching on google, that couldve saved you a lot of trouble
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Macro_Zzz: Seveas: works a treat, booya!! cheers :D
[20:34] <lyk3n> is there a program for learning algebra
[20:34] <babaklinux> omac: now how can i install it?
[20:34] <omac> babaklinux, go to this url and follow the instructions:  http://www.xfardic.org/html/index.php
[20:34] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, google is for landlubbers, real pirates pillage instead of search :)
[20:34]  * ShackJack1 loves the "Works a treat" expression :)
[20:35] <Seveas> lyk3n, it's called "school" :)
[20:35]  * Macro_Zzz doesnt have a hear
[20:35] <Macro_Zzz> *heart
[20:35] <netsurf3> can anyone help me out with this error? heci: schedule work the heci_bh_handler failed error=0
[20:35] <Vladimir[LV]> Help me please! Sessions doesnt deletes by php in /tmp/session ;/ I have set gc.maxlife_time to 600, but after 1h it are here :(
[20:35] <omac> babaklinux, This is assuming you know how to use the terminal.   Click applications->accessories->terminal....then sudo bash
[20:35] <Bikerbob_> btw.. what is a cli irc client installed I could use?
[20:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: that was actually funny will save it :)
[20:35] <carbuntu> ActionParsnip: when i go to network configure all is greyed out
[20:35] <Macro_Zzz> Vladimir[LV], maybe the time is in minutes
[20:35] <Flannel> Bikerbob_: most people enjoy irssi
[20:36] <the_zemo> no help huh
[20:36] <omac> babaklinux, from there you follow the instructions from http://www.xfardic.org/html/index.php
[20:36] <Vladimir[LV]> P.S. latest session change - 21:29 (now 22:35)
[20:36] <Seveas> Flannel, depends on your definition of enjoy :)
[20:36] <noob09> Hello, I am having issues with my harddrive partitioning. I have just installed Gutsy 64bit together with my Vista installation. I partitioned my HD so that my ubuntu partition would have 150gigs.. however, it is telling me I only have 1.6 gigs left of space!
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | carbuntu
[20:36] <Vladimir[LV]> Macro_Zzz: time in seconds
[20:36] <GSH> Hey folks. I'm trying to install ubuntu server 8.04. While installing, it used DHCP fine as far as I can tell. After reboot, it can't find the network. Running ifconfig shows *large* numbers for dropped on eth0, e.g., dropped:4294967293. It can't get DHCP
[20:36] <noob09> I have a screenshot of gparted with all the info
[20:36] <fogobogo> noob09: congrats
[20:37] <babaklinux> omac: i readed it but can't find any usefull
[20:37] <noob09> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/341/screenshotld9.jpg
[20:37] <omac> GSH, click applications->accessories->terminal...sudo bash...dhclient.
[20:37] <Seveas> GSH, does sudo mii-diag tell you that you have link?
[20:37] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel, Bikerbob_: the best irc is what does the job for you xchat is good and easy just like mirc on windows but if you lack on system resources than a terminal app like irssi could be what you want
[20:37] <Seveas> omac, 'sudo bash' is bad. Better use 'sudo -i'
[20:37] <Bikerbob_> xchat is not commant line is it?
[20:37] <fogobogo> noob09: thanks but no thanks. i rather enjoy some pictures for adults
[20:37] <nerfquark> no
[20:37] <Pirate_Hunter> Bikerbob_: no that gui
[20:37] <omac> ok Seveas,  sorry for giving bad habits.
[20:37] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, there's xchat-text
[20:37] <kryptonite> gui
[20:38] <fogobogo> Bikerbob_: no its not. hence the X in front
[20:38] <GSH> omac - If I run dhclient, I get a lot of DHCPDISCOVER attempts, then it gives up
[20:38] <Bikerbob_> ok.. well I was asking for a command line irc client
[20:38] <noob09> well ok fogobogo, I recommend redtube
[20:38] <tyranis> whenever I start ubuntu I see this screen and nothing happens? It worked fine after I installed it. http://tyranis.mercenariesguild.net/ubuntufail.JPG
[20:38] <carbuntu> ActionParsnip: !ndiswrapper there is a front end ndisgtk that finds & does the setup
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> !irc | Bikerbob_
[20:38] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, irssi, bitchx
[20:38] <Macro_Zzz> Bikerbob_, see Seveas  comment
[20:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Bikerbob_: install both xchat and irssi and see which you prefer once you get adjusted with them
[20:38] <Flannel> Seveas: bitchX isn't in Ubuntu
[20:38] <carbuntu> ubottu: ty looking at that too
[20:38] <GSH> omac - I think that it's misconfigured my eth0 -- the dropped value is REALLY high when I type ifconfig
[20:39] <fogobogo> noob09: thanks for the hint. btw there any reason you made a screenshot?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> carbuntu: yes, run it with gksu ndisgtk
[20:39] <Seveas> Flannel, ah? Since when? (Haven't used it in aaaaaaaaaages)
[20:39] <noob09> yes, since it has all the info and describes the problem perfectly
[20:39] <Bikerbob_> how do you unintall something from the command ine?
[20:39] <omac> GSH, then you arent' connected to anything with a cable.
[20:39] <Macro_Zzz> Bikerbob_, sudo apt-get remove <packlage>
[20:39] <Flannel> Seveas: Dapper is the last place with it.  Its dropped due to its lovely security holes.
[20:39] <Macro_Zzz> *<package>
[20:39] <gwash> Bikerbob_: apt-gettfo
[20:39] <lawi_> Hi guys. Anyone gotten Toshiba A205-S804 wireless working? I've followed all guides I could get my hands on and the wlan0 is on but says "no wirelss networks found" iwlist scan retuns nothing. The card is rtl8187b
[20:39] <Bikerbob_> okahh
[20:39] <fogobogo> noob09: whicch is?
[20:40] <Xecration> Do any of you pros know where i can find my apache configuration file so i can link it to php 5.3?
[20:40] <noob09> is gparted with disk usage analyzer... and in the analyzer it shows I am using only a couple of gigs... and in gparted it says i am using 150gigs O_O
[20:40] <GSH> omac - as I noted, while installing server 8.04 from CD, it could use dhcp correctly. After reboot, it can't connect. I've tried multiple ethernet cables, and all the cables work fine on a different box
[20:40] <Macro_Zzz> gwash, heh
[20:40] <Seveas> Flannel, I still see it in gutsy
[20:40] <Flannel> Xecration: just install libapache2-mod-php5
[20:40] <Seveas> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ircii-pana
[20:40] <fogobogo> noob09: there seems to be problem then
[20:40] <Xecration> its linked to my old php version tho
[20:40] <fogobogo> noob09: open a terminal
[20:40] <noob09> ok
[20:40] <fogobogo> noob09: type df -h
[20:40] <Flannel> Seveas: Hmm, interesting.  p.u.c is being confusing.
[20:40] <Macro_Zzz> gwash, maybe u should make a symlink with that name
[20:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Bikerbob_: command remove only unninstall the package but leaves the config files chanhe remove to purge if you want the config files/folders to be removed, that is if you're sure you wont install the ap again
[20:41] <noob09> done
[20:41] <Flannel> Seveas: yeah, I guess it is in gutsy.  But the rest still stands.
[20:41] <gwash> Macro_Zzz: a bash alias
[20:41] <fogobogo> noob09: so whats there now?
[20:41] <GSH> omac - I didn't change the ethernet cable from initial install to reboot. I suspect it's misconfigured what my eth0 device is
[20:41] <Seveas> Flannel, yeah. It's a security nightmare :)
[20:41] <omac> babaklinux, how are you doing?  Have you added the line 'deb http://parsix.org/packages ramon main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list yet.
[20:41] <q0s> hey guys, i have a server without a monitor connected to. and i can't get a higher resolution than 640x480. does somebody know how to fix this?
[20:41] <noob09> funny, sda4 has only 4.7 capacity
[20:41] <noob09> 4.7gigs i mean
[20:41] <babaklinux> omac: this is for parsix  etc/apt/sources.list file:  deb http://parsix.org/packages ramon main no ubuntu
[20:41] <omac> GSH, ifconfig eth0 down
[20:41] <omac> GSH, dhclient
[20:41] <gwash> noob09: i fail to see the humor in that
[20:41] <noob09> but in gparted it says I have 140gigs capacity
[20:41] <Xecration> @Flannel: the current apache install is linked to my old php 5.2.x install which is still installed how do i configure it to my new php5.3?
[20:42] <noob09> thats why its funny
[20:42] <Macro_Zzz> gwash, its the sad kind of funny :(
[20:42] <omac> GSH, if you have a router with the internet configuration already setup, it should find it automatically.
[20:42] <Flannel> Xecration: why do you need php 5.3?
[20:42] <GSH> omac - ran 'ifconfig eth0 down'. No output
[20:42] <gwash> noob09: your probably reading something wrong
[20:42] <carbuntu> ActionParsnip i get 2 errors (network-admin:8539): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkComboBox.items,   (network-admin:8539): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '8539'
[20:42] <dmsuperman> Would it be a correct assumption to say that +x on a directory is both permissions to change permission on that directory and to enter it? A folder has 0666 permissions and I can't chmod it without using sudo
[20:42] <noob09> i have a screenshot look:
[20:43] <omac> GSH, that's right.
[20:43] <Xecration> I'm rewriting my php applications to take advantage of php5.3s new features as well as learning to use php phar
[20:43] <noob09> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/341/screenshotld9.jpg
[20:43] <GSH> omac - *while installing 8.04 server from CD*, it could use DHCP. It cannot do that after rebooting
[20:43] <omac> GSH, ifconfig with nothing after it.
[20:43] <carbuntu> the box comes up but greyed out
[20:43] <omac> GSH, what do you see?
[20:43] <Xecration> i could do it on windows but i want to get back into ubuntu, i like it =)
[20:44] <gwash> noob09: that's a pretty nasty looking hdd
[20:44] <GSH> omac - running 'ifconfig' w/ no params gives me a lot, including "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST" Then, for dropped, it says<PHONE_NUMBER>
[20:44] <noob09> im saving an additional 50 gigs for Fedora
[20:44] <Seveas> dmsuperman, only the owner of a directory can change permission. +x is only for giving permission to enter
[20:44] <Flannel> Xecration: You'll have to build php5.3 yourself, yadda yadda.  Since, it's not even stable yet (or close to it), and as such, will not be in Ubuntu.
[20:44] <Xecration> its already built and i used checkinstall to install it into packge manager
[20:44] <noob09> though, i think ill just make a /home partition
[20:44] <Xecration> thats not the issue tho
[20:44] <GSH> omac - I can't copy & paste to here because I'm on a separate machine to here. Any other params to look for in that output block?
[20:44] <Seveas> ugh, checkinstall
[20:44] <pan_> anyone know how use shortcut keys in xchat to toggle between channels?
[20:45] <Xecration> i want apache to use 5.3 instead of 5.2.x
[20:45] <noob09> but thats not the point... do u know whats going on?
[20:45] <CorbinFox> pan: in pidgin it is CTRL + Tab, try that?
[20:45] <Seveas> Xecration, please don't ask us for support anymore with that. You broke it yourself, you get to keep the pieces :)
[20:45] <Flannel> Xecration: /etc/apache2/ is the apache config stuffs.  In /etc/apache2/mods-available/ is where you'll put your module, and then symlink it to mods-enabled
[20:45] <pan_> ctrl+tab dont work
[20:45] <Xecration> there we go thats all i needed to kno =P
[20:45] <pan_> ctrl+tab i know works for firefox
[20:45] <lawi_> toshiba wireless? Anyone?
[20:46] <fogobogo> pan_: thats unfortunate. well we tried our best
[20:46] <omac> babaklinux, please understand .deb files are debian based files.  The ubuntu is debian based also.  You may use this repository for installing xfardic.  It may have conflicts, but I read somewhere that others have succeeded in installing xfardic on ubuntu.
[20:46] <pan_> aight
[20:46] <fogobogo> pan_: rtfm .
[20:46] <pan_> rtfm?
[20:46] <fogobogo> pan_: also alt + number
[20:46] <Flannel> !rtfm | fogobogo
[20:46] <Macro_Zzz> pan_, use man firefox
[20:46] <pan_> yeah
[20:46] <pan_> alt works
[20:46] <pan_> in xchat
[20:46] <hanasakiRemote> What are the good options for vpn's for ubuntu that also have windows clients?
[20:46] <omac> GSH, tell me what you see for eth0 and for ppp0.
[20:47] <Seveas> hanasakiRemote, openvpn
[20:47] <digitalfiz> lol
[20:47] <noob09> gwash, fogobogo, any suggestions?
[20:47] <hanasakiRemote> Sevea that the same as swan?
[20:47] <GSH> omac - there is no ppp0, only eth0 and lo. I'll have to retype this as best and as quickly as I can
[20:47] <fogobogo> noob09: well one number is the right one
[20:47] <Seveas> hanasakiRemote, no, openvpn is an SSL vpn, freeswan/openswan are IPSEC
[20:47] <noob09> yes...
[20:47] <GSH> omac - eth0 link encap: ethernet. HWaddr: 00:1c:c0:6e:b5:6d
[20:47] <omac> GSH, good.  There shouldn't be a ppp0.  I was just checking to see if you were running another ppp client.
[20:47] <gwash> noob09: one of these apps is wrong, you should know which
[20:48] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make FF accept backspace to return to previous page, i have no clue why they took that function off
[20:48] <GSH> omac: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[20:48] <omac> GSH, any ip address associated to it?
[20:48] <Seveas> hanasakiRemote, an ssl vpn like openvpn is easiest to get working through home routers with NAT and other firewall-ish equipment
[20:48] <omac> GSH, to the eth0 device I mean.
[20:48] <GSH> omac: RC packets:0 errors:0 dropped:4294967286 overruns 0 frame 0
[20:48] <GSH> omac - no IP addrs seen
[20:48] <hanasakiRemote> Seveas:  what's the pro/con of ipsec vs ssl I thought
[20:49] <GSH> omac: TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:28 overruns:0 carrier:0
[20:49] <GSH> omac: collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[20:49] <JakeDust> Okay, hello everyone, I need a bit of help.
[20:49] <GSH> omax: RX bytes:0 (0.0B) TX bytes:0 (0.0B)
[20:49] <omac> GSH, is this eth0 connected to a router?
[20:49] <sloggerkhan> hi guys
[20:49] <GSH> omac - interrupt:220 base address:0x4000
[20:49] <JakeDust> My friend is running a 7.10, but the network icon disappeared
[20:50] <Seveas> hanasakiRemote, an ipsec vpn is more "natural", more the way networks should work. An ssl vpn is easier to set up and can generally do more tricks :)
[20:50] <JakeDust> I just need that NetworkManager icon back to the bar.
[20:50] <GSH> omac - yes. The cable goes to a router here. *Everything worked* when installing 8.04 server from CD. After reboot, nothing works
[20:50] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: there is a setting somewhere.. about:config probably.. can't remember what it was called though
[20:50] <Seveas> JakeDust, run the nm-applet command
[20:50] <GSH> omac - I've tried switching the cable into this laptop that's running, and it works.
[20:50] <Seveas> if it still doesn't appear: add the 'notification area' back to your panel
[20:51] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: perhaps browser.backspace_action
[20:51] <omac> GSH, show me your ifconfig.  Do you have an ip address?
[20:51] <JakeDust> Seveas: Okay, I ran it in a normal terminal, it just hangs without returning anything
[20:51] <GSH> omac: I retyped my ifconfig as best as I could above. No IP address
[20:51] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[20:52] <Seveas> JakeDust, that means it's running. Did the applet appear?
[20:52] <carbuntu>  *-network DISABLED
[20:52] <carbuntu>        description: Wireless interface
[20:52] <carbuntu>        physical id: 1
[20:52] <carbuntu>        logical name: wlan0
[20:52] <carbuntu>        serial: 00:06:25:49:d7:f4
[20:52] <FloodBot2> carbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <carbuntu>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[20:52] <noob09> nevermind, i'll just reinstall ubuntu. Decide beforehand fogobogo, if you really want to help or not instead of beating around the bush pretending to be an ass, people like you stear people away from linux.
[20:52] <GSH> omac: my main question is this -- what is different between th 8.04 server CD installer (which DID get DHCP working), and what it installed (which does NOT get DHCP working)
[20:52] <carbuntu> oops
[20:52] <JakeDust> Seveas: No.
[20:53] <Seveas> JakeDust, then you need to add the notification area to your panel :)
[20:53] <Hagg2> Hello, can anyone help me with a nestled shell script? I have a shell script that I want to upload to a server and then remotely execute and it should extract files (including other shell scripts) and run some commands. Everything is working very good exept that my embedded shellscripts are trashed (executed before extracted, or something)
[20:53] <JakeDust> Seveas: OH, thank you.
[20:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart: ty will read that now
[20:53] <omac> GSH, do you have two cables connected to the router?  Do you have one connected to your laptop which your chatting with me?(yes)  Do you have another one for the ubuntu box you are having problems with?(please say yes).
[20:53] <carbuntu> how do i undisable the wireless
[20:54] <haydn> Where should I go to discuss possible Ibex bugs
[20:54] <GSH> omac - yes, I have multiple cables to the router (and an 8-port ethernet switch in the middle). One goes to the laptop w/ irc. One goes to the other box. And yes, I've tried switching the cables. Laptop still works. Ubuntu still can't get an IP
[20:55] <Hagg2> I use the following syntax: "cat > /tmp/extractedscript.sh <<EOF
[20:55] <Hagg2> #!/bin/sh
[20:55] <Hagg2> ... my embedded scrpt ...
[20:55] <Hagg2> EOF
[20:55] <guntbert> Hagg2: you might get better answers in #bash
[20:55] <FloodBot2> Hagg2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <Hagg2> guntbert: ok, thanks
[20:55] <omac> have you been running a dhcpd daemon?   man dhcdbd
[20:55] <carbuntu> Subsystem: Linksys Unknown device 0013
[20:55] <omac> GSH, have you been running a dhcpd daemon?   man dhcdbd
[20:55] <Bikerbob_> OK so I removed the pkg and now I have figured out I want it again.. but it is not in the repositories.. lol
[20:56] <GSH> omac - man dhcdbd has no manual entry
[20:56] <carbuntu> can that be the reason for no wireless
[20:56] <gwash> Bikerbob_: get the source and build it yourself
[20:56] <omac> GSH, get the documentation then.
[20:56] <Pirate_Hunter> where is the trash folder located?
[20:56] <Seveas> omac, gsh: dhcdbd isn't the dhcp daemon but the interface between dhclient and network-manager
[20:56] <fogobogo> Pirate_Hunter: ~/
[20:56] <Pici> !trash | Pirate_Hunter
[20:56] <gwash> Pirate_Hunter: everywhere
[20:57] <Pirate_Hunter> gwash: :)
[20:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Pici: ty
[20:58] <Bikerbob_> yeah.. found the pkg online.. but getting it to the computer that needs it is a pain in the @#$
[20:58] <dabbill> My had an uptime of like 30days, then i rebooted it for some reason. Now it shuts off after 23hours of being on. and my older kernel no longer boots. Whitch i think is the one i was useing to get the uptime of 30days
[20:59] <GSH> Frack this. Trying FreeBSD 7 on the box to see if it can speak IP after install. For the last time - DHCP got an IP *when installing 8.04 server*. IT WORKED. Then,the only thing I did was remove the install CD, reboot, and DHCP *doesn't work*. SW problem!
[20:59] <babaklinux> omac: what command doid you use for install?
[20:59] <digitalfiz> where would i put fonts so x can use them?
[20:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Pici: i just deleted a video clip and i cant find it there, could there be another place where deleted files go?
[20:59] <fogobogo> digitalfiz: in the right folder
[20:59] <digitalfiz> har har
[21:00] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, how did you delete it?
[21:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: highlighted file and pressed delete key on keyboard
[21:00] <digitalfiz> and "the right folder" would be?
[21:00] <Seveas> digitalfiz, ~/.fonts
[21:00] <babaklinux> omac: i used this command for install but don't work apt-get install xfardic
[21:00] <jorrit> omac, When I follow the tips, I do get a midi port (-: , but no midi device, as in: /dev/snd/midic0d0  Do you have any idea how I could get that to work? And yes I have googled for it first and read the manpages and such.
[21:00] <digitalfiz> thanks Seveas
[21:00] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, should be in the trash then i guess
[21:00] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: Look down at the bottom right hand side of the screen. If you are in GNOME there is a little bin icon
[21:00] <Hondo_Kitsune> double click it to open it
[21:01] <largehadron> hi folks. this isnt much to do with ubuntu , but its a simple question - how do you do an rsync , but at the same time log the output to a file, while having the output still showing in the terminal?
[21:01] <Hondo_Kitsune> Restore your file from there.
[21:01] <Pirate_Hunter> Hondo_Kitsune: im in fvwm-crystal with gnome-commander
[21:01] <Nasuradin> does anyone hapen to know how I figure out what my laptop's onboard microphone's make is?
[21:01] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: Switch to GNOME
[21:01] <Seveas> largehadron, rsync | tee file_to_write_to
[21:01] <Hagg2> guntbert: over at #bash I got good points and help within 5sec :) Thanks for the tip
[21:02] <largehadron> ah!  good old tee.  should have thought of that! thanks...
[21:02] <Hondo_Kitsune> or open nautilus and go to trash:///
[21:02] <omac> babaklinux, use synaptics or aptitude instead.  Once you are more comfortable, you may return to using the commandline
[21:02] <guntbert> Hagg2: yw, I like the channel myself  :)
[21:02] <Seveas> largehadron, 'man tee' for the full story on it. Do 'sudo apt-get install moreutils' and 'man pee' for an alternative that can pipe text to a process and display it on screen
[21:02] <gwash> Hondo_Kitsune: Switch to FVWM-CRYSTAL!
[21:02] <gwash> how does that feel?
[21:02] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the point of rox-filer when i cant even identify how to go to my trash and this file manager is supposed to make my life easier :/
[21:03] <warren_> hi
[21:03] <omac> jorrit, did you compile alsa with midi enable from the sources?
[21:03] <babaklinux> omac: did you install it from synaptics ?
[21:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Hondo_Kitsune: hmmm nah there is a point why i aint using nautilus or ubuntudesktop
[21:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: Type trash:/// into the address bar of Nautilus, or whatever file manager you are using. that may work
[21:03] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, ah rox-filer... that probably doesn't use trash or at least not the standard location. Maybe people in #xubuntu know
[21:03] <jorrit> omac, no not yet, as my box is quite old and it takes some time for it to finish compiling...
[21:03] <omac> babaklinux, no.  I am not running farsi language stuff.
[21:04] <gwash> Pirate_Hunter: it probably doesn't even use trash
[21:04] <Bikerbob_> So the long and the short of all this .. is I have a computer that I need to use the ATI driver for.. how do I modify the Xconf to use it?
[21:04] <Funkah> Trash is trash!  Permanent deletion!!  Deletionists arise!
[21:04] <yem2> What word processor do i use to write C++ script?
[21:04] <opt1k> this question might be a bit odd, but can I provide shell access to my computer over a web site and how?
[21:04] <omac> I am simply trying to step you through how to use the commands to install new packages since you didn't know how.
[21:04] <Seveas> !ati | Bikerbob_
[21:04] <gwash> yem2: you don't
[21:04] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, short version: system -> administration -> hardware drivers. Click the right buttons
[21:05] <Funkah> yem2: gedit can do that.  If you go into view > highlight > sources, you can select C+ and it'll highlight the code like in an environment.  Although it's more of a text editor than a word processor.
[21:05] <jorrit> opt1k, You can use any editor, but I recommend vim or emacs if you want to get into serious programming.
[21:05] <omac> yem2, emacs rocks.
[21:05] <babaklinux> omac: now do i have to insert this line deb http://parsix.org/packages ramon main  to sources.list  ??
[21:05] <fogobogo> yem2: not openoffice. thats for sure
[21:05] <largehadron> funkah ->  you know what annoys me?  i delete a file from an SD card, and a HIDDEN .trash directory is created... GRRRRRR!!!
[21:05] <jorrit> fogobogo, lol
[21:05] <Funkah> largehadron:  That is so....  microsoft.
[21:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> opt1k: enable SSH and forward the ports, then use PUTTY at a remote location. That is all i can think of atm
[21:05] <omac> babaklinux, for the third time telling you...YES!!!
[21:05] <Bikerbob_> I am in command line Seveas I cant get X to work
[21:05] <opt1k> jorrit: got any good tuts on that topic?
[21:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> largehadron: Isn't that MacOS :P
[21:05] <largehadron> so i end up deleting the .trash folder as well.
[21:06] <largehadron> no - its Gnome!
[21:06] <Funkah> Does the .trash go into .trash.trash?
[21:06] <opt1k> Hondo_Kitsune: is there some java telnet client that i could incorporate into my website?
[21:06] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, ah. Then read that wikipage (on another pc), it has more ingo
[21:06] <Hondo_Kitsune> largehadron: Never had that problem
[21:06] <largehadron> maybe theres an option to switch that off...
[21:06] <Seveas> Funkah, trash fractal. .trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash.trash
[21:06] <jorrit> opt1k, Are you familiar with scheme? If so, choose emacs. Vim is present on every unix system,
[21:06] <Hondo_Kitsune> opt1k: what jorrit said :P I just know about basic SSH
[21:06] <Pirate_Hunter> ahhh forget it i'll just get it when i log into gnome whenever that is or decide to install thunar
[21:07] <opt1k> jorrit: not quite =( heh, guess i'll have to learn it then :D
[21:07] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: I'd reccomend Nautilus over Thunar
[21:07] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: I used Thunar back when i used XFCE, awquard and nasty
[21:07] <fogobogo> thuna tastes better!
[21:07] <opt1k> Hondo_Kitsune: hehe kk
[21:07] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: Nautilus or Konqueror
[21:07] <Seveas> jorrit, 'vi' is present everywhere, 'vim' not :)
[21:07] <yem2> See the thing is, I have no idea how to write C++ so i'm just looking for a program that will let my write script (pratice) and compile it fairly quick after so i can see my results
[21:07] <Bikerbob_> thanks anyway Seveas but its the ATI driver.. not any of the restricted.. we are talkinga bout a 15 year old card.
[21:08] <yem2> so which notepad like program is there on linux to do that with
[21:08] <fogobogo> yem2: geany
[21:08] <Seveas> jorrit, most notably: ubuntu, fedora, red hat and centos do not install a full vim by default :)
[21:08] <yem2> ok thx man
[21:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bikerbob_: Legacy drivers?
[21:08] <opt1k> yem2: gedit
[21:08] <Bikerbob_> nope.. good old ATI.. thats the name of the driver.. I just need to get it to work
[21:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> yem2: or Kate in KDE
[21:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bikerbob_: I meant, use ATI-Legacy drivers
[21:09] <mridul> rr
[21:09] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, hmm -- that should really work ootb then. Strange. Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver stanza in the Device section to ati
[21:09] <Pirate_Hunter> Hondo_Kitsune: i have nautilus but it dont work well with other wm :/ and the whole dont show desktop in menuconf is annoying when you have to go back to it
[21:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> they should be available in the Package manager
[21:09] <jedimindtrick> is it safe to hibernate / suspend in ubuntu yet?
[21:09] <jedimindtrick> every time i try, i can never get it to come back to life
[21:09] <fogobogo> jedimindtrick: use the force and find out
[21:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> Pirate_Hunter: Try Konqueror then, it is a bit like Windoze Explorer
[21:09] <Bikerbob_> OK.. thats my point Seveas, I dont know how to manually edit it to get it to work.
[21:09] <babaklinux> omac: but when i insert that line in sources.list and open synaptic and reload this error appear http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=fk2aw
[21:10] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf. ctrl+o is save, ctrl+x is exit
[21:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bikerbob_: Use gksudo gedit or gksudo kate and open the Xorg.conf file in one of them. If you have a graphical display atm...
[21:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bikerbob_: Or what Seveas said
[21:10] <neo_> does ubuntu support nvidia 9600gt
[21:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Hondo_Kitsune: thunar works quite fine all my other three machines havent had a problem with it and it is the closest to nautilus but lighter also i dont want kde stuff on my system
[21:10] <Seveas> Hondo_Kitsune, he's in the console, X ain't working :)
[21:11] <fogobogo> neo_: if nvidia supports ubuntu you mean
[21:11] <neo_> yeah
[21:11] <Hondo_Kitsune> Seveas: I think I had that problem recently. on another system with an odd GCard, I had to change the Screen Refresh manually
[21:12] <Pirate_Hunter> brb need to logout quickly
[21:12] <neo_> will i be able to use compiz on ubuntu with nvidia 9600gt
[21:12] <omac> Seveas, babaklinux:  xfardic is not in the ubuntu repository.  babaklinux is getting this error.  I need more info to be able recommend a next step.  Failed to fetch http://parsix.org/packages/dists/ramon/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[21:12] <omac> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> Seveas: Can't remember how i did it.
[21:12] <Funkah> neo_: I should think so.
[21:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: If you install the right drivers, I ahve a 7600GT in my pc and I cant use Compiz because I have not installed the right drivers yet
[21:12] <Seveas> omac, that's not ubuntu software, I won't try to help :)
[21:13] <schidamb> have a question of ubuntu root account. It allows me to set the root account just by typing sudo root passwd , looks like a security hole to me. Anyone can login, and set the root passwd isn't it. Do you know why ubuntu does it this way
[21:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: Yet I have an Intel GFX in my lappy, and It uses CompizFusion all the time on top settings
[21:13] <omac> It's 4am here.  I'm going to bed.
[21:13] <unop> schidamb, only if they have access to your credentials
[21:13] <Bikerbob_> sorry.. I am not making myself understood.. I know HOW to open it up.. I just dont know WHAT to edit to get it to use the driver.
[21:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> omac: Night
[21:13] <neo_> Hondo_Kitsune:i had a nvidia 6200 earlier and the drivers for that were installed automatically by ubuntu
[21:13] <unop> schidamb, or access to sudo really
[21:13] <jorrit> omac, sweet dreams and thanks for all the help!
[21:14] <Seveas> schidamb, only the user who installed ubuntu (or any users given that access by the installing user) can use sudo
[21:14] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: The 7600, like most of the stuff i buy is a bit obscure, badly supported etc... I live with it. I still use Windoze mainly on my PC becasue I play games on it alot.
[21:14] <neo_> me too
[21:14] <GSH> omac - thanks for trying on my IP address issue. As I said, I wish I could communicate more clearly that it's not HW, and I'm not a total newbie.
[21:14] <schidamb> Thank You. This answers
[21:15] <neo_> i would always keep my xp dual booted with any other linux distro
[21:15] <demontat> salut
[21:15] <Funkah> I kinda regret that I need windows for work.  And pretty soon, I won't have any linux computers :(
[21:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: My lappy is 101% ubuntu boot, with an XP vmachine and Xover Office. Works for me
[21:15] <neo_> what's the name of the linux built for the ps3 ,its yellow dog something right
[21:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: Yellow DOg, yah
[21:16] <Seveas> neo_, ubuntu also has ps3 install cd's
[21:16] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: Mut Sony made sure the GPU and CPU get majorly restricted when running Linux to stop emulators and VMware working right, etc.
[21:16] <bonk_> hi
[21:16] <Hondo_Kitsune> *but*
[21:16] <gwash> Hondo_Kitsune: that doesn't make you any 'cooler' than the dual booting kids
[21:16] <neo_> Hondo_Kitsune : you have installed ubuntu on ur laptop ,which model
[21:16] <Hondo_Kitsune> gwash: I was not implying that at all.
[21:16] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_:  Toshiba Equium M70-337
[21:16] <bonk_> if I have a link www.x.com/movie.mov how do I download that mov file to the disk?
[21:16] <Bikerbob_> anyone want to look at my Xorg.conf and log?
[21:17] <Seveas> bonk_, file -> save as
[21:17] <fogobogo> bonk_: with a downlaoder
[21:17] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, sure, if you can somehow pastebin them
[21:17] <Hondo_Kitsune> bonk_: Open firefox, right click the link and save as.
[21:17] <neo_> Hondo_Kitsune: ok
[21:17] <jorrit> bonk_, or from the command-line wget <URL>
[21:17] <Hondo_Kitsune> bonk_: wget <Filename>
[21:17] <Hondo_Kitsune> jorrit: Damn, you beat me to it:P
[21:17] <Bikerbob_> whats the pastepin url again.. not the ubuntu one
[21:17] <neo_> can i post a link here
[21:17] <jorrit> Hondo_Kitsune, hehe, foxy...
[21:18] <bonk_> great, thanks!
[21:18] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, pastebin.com pastebin.ca paste.pocoo.org
[21:18] <Seveas> (to name a few ;))
[21:18] <Hondo_Kitsune> jorrit: Heh, someone that can translate it :P
[21:18] <jorrit> Hondo_Kitsune, I'm learning Japanese, you too?
[21:18] <Pirate_Hunter> tried using command locate & whereis to no avail, how can i search the whole system for a file?
[21:18] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bikerbob_: Set up SSH on your Linux rig and then PUTTY into it from the system you are using to talk on IRC, that should let you copy/paste
[21:18] <tyranis>  whenever I start ubuntu I see this screen and nothing happens.  http://tyranis.mercenariesguild.net/ubuntufail.JPG . How do I fix this?
[21:18] <neo_> hello is it allowed to post a link here
[21:19] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, find / -name foobar
[21:19] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, find / -iname '*filename*'
[21:19] <fogobogo> neo_: maybe
[21:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> jorrit: No, I have just been known as "HK" for a while now
[21:19] <neo_> maybe??
[21:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: we have been posting links for a bit, as long as it is on topic yu should be ok
[21:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas, unop: ty
[21:20] <neo_> what about the link to my channel ^_^
[21:20] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: hmm
[21:20] <Seveas> neo_, definite no.
[21:20] <yem2> So yea i just wrote my first script named: FirstScript, its sitting in my home directory, when i put "cc Firstscript" It gives me this error "/usr/bin/ld:FirstScript: file format not recognized; treating as linker script
[21:20] <yem2> /usr/bin/ld:FirstScript:1: syntax error
[21:20] <yem2> "
[21:20] <Bikerbob_> http://pastebin.ca/1206089
[21:20] <neo_> ok
[21:20] <Hondo_Kitsune> neo_: If you want to give it to specifiv people use /query
[21:20] <Seveas> yem2, why are you trying to compile your script? :)
[21:20] <yem2> i want to see if it works
[21:20] <neo_> yeah seveas can go screw himself
[21:21] <Seveas> !ops | neo_
[21:21] <Xteven> hi
[21:21] <jorrit> neo_, !language
[21:21] <tuxice> !language | neo_
[21:21] <Xteven> I'm looking for a tool that can take 2 ical files and check whether the events inn them overlap
[21:21] <Hondo_Kitsune> Oh fudge
[21:21] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, the device section misses a driver stanza
[21:21] <Bikerbob_> http://pastebin.ca/1206092http://pastebin.ca/1206092
[21:21] <yem2> am i doing somthing wrong?
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas,unop:  do i have to use the whole filename cause im only using part of it and I aint using upercase, im hoping it aint strict on things like that
[21:22] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, between line 35 and 36 there should be something like:  Driver    "ati"
[21:22] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, the version i gave you takes account for incomplete filename and case insensitivity
[21:22] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, and you could try commenting out (put a # as first character) line 35
[21:22] <Bikerbob_> ok
[21:22] <fogobogo> Bikerbob_: it could be an other line too though
[21:23] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: ok and you said the version you have, which version is that
[21:23] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, could you pastebin your Xorg.0.log as well please?
[21:23] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, find / -iname '*filename*'
[21:23] <matt0009> hi all, I am looking for advice on wifi-radar, which now can not get an ip address
[21:23] <Bikerbob_> or should I change it to ATI.. I know thats the driver I need to use..
[21:23] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, or more appropriately.  find / -iname '*word*'
[21:24] <broken> Is there a nopaste alternative for ubuntu? To pastebin something from the console.
[21:24] <Seveas> unop, word.
[21:24] <Bikerbob_> that was the one above Seveas
[21:24] <unop> Seveas, what?
[21:24] <Bikerbob_> http://pastebin.ca/1206092
[21:24] <Seveas> unop, sorry, bad humor on my side ;)
[21:24] <Seveas> Bikerbob_, ah, missed that.  Is the xserver-xorg-video-all package installed?
[21:25] <broken> thanks Flannel
[21:25] <walwan> Been struggling for 2 days with these ATI drivers for my x800pro, tried the drivers ver 8,8 and the latest from ATI site, tried EnvyNG, and the proprietary drivers aswell. fiddled around in xorg.conf with all those. Most of them went to a white screen right after logging in. Others just back to Vesa drivers.
[21:25] <walwan> Any earlier versions of the ATI drivers I should try out ?
[21:26] <Bad_Magic> Anyone have any idea why I can't run snes9x in fullscreen mode on my ps3 unless I use a 'fullscreen' ps3-video-mode (and thus have the associated overscan issues)?
[21:27] <Bikerbob_> yes.. but it did not load the vesa with it..
[21:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> Bad_Magic: Does your PS3 run Ubuntu?
[21:27] <Jacobbs> yaaaar
[21:27] <Bikerbob_> remember this is a powerpc computer
[21:27] <Bad_Magic> Hondo: yes
[21:27] <yem2> does anyone else ever feel overwhelmed when trying to understand some computer concepts? :P
[21:27] <Seveas> yem2, all the freaking time :)
[21:27] <keithclark> yem2: always
[21:27] <Bad_Magic> as someone with a B.S. in computer science... yes
[21:27] <Bad_Magic> lol