[02:38] <StarWolfUS> hello
[03:10] <ateo-busca-creye> por que no puedo entrar en argentina del irc hispano?
[06:23] <gheraint> rww, do they usually have so many connections?
[06:23] <rww> gheraint: no
[06:24] <gheraint> they seem to have stopped flapping
[06:25] <rww> of course. it's like how computer problems go away when one calls over a technician :)
[06:25] <rww> i can poke you if it continues if you'd like
[06:25] <gheraint> that's a reasonable idea :)
[08:38] <ap0c> I just pressed a random keyboard combination (don't know what it was, ctrl + an alphanumeric), and it brought up a default background and in the top right, Plasma said 'New Program' or something like that... I thought I pressed a button to bring back default desktop, but it was some kind of new workspace with default background
[08:38] <ap0c> none of my windows were actually on the taskbar, and when I double clicked the taskbar IRC icon for my client, it went back to my regular workspace...
[09:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:43] <PKHG_Peter> Hallo, I am trying to install Ipython for Python3.4, missing now pyzmq.  how to install??
[09:44] <lordievader> Through pip perhaps, I am not familiar with IPython.
[09:44] <PKHG_Peter> sry have to go shopping, wife ask me ... (thanks will try pip ?)
[09:45] <valorie> !info pyzmq
[11:18] <Walex2> ap0c: you probably created a new "activity".
[11:24] <ahox> Hi, how do I change between activity using the keyboard in kde 5? It used to be Meta+Tab, however, this does not work anymore, and I can not find anything in global keyboard shortcuts
[11:25] <ahox> I enabled already the global keyboard plugin in kcmshell5 kcm_activities
[11:47] <ap0c> thanks Walex2, will look into 'kde activities', is it KDE specific?>
[12:49] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[15:19] <miasma> would someone happen to know how to make kubuntu find md0 (raid1) root? i can't boot my system even though i've set the partition ids to fd
[15:19] <miasma> so the kernel should autodetect the raid
[15:20] <miasma> however, when booting kubuntu, i'm left with busybox shell, no /dev/md0, nothing in /proc/mdstat
[15:20] <miasma> i've mdadm installed in the system
[15:25] <miasma> mdmadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[ab]1 sets up the raid
[15:25] <miasma> *mdadm
[15:26] <BluesKaj_> miasma, maybe ask about raid/mdadm etc in ##linux, it seems that question isn't directly related to kubuntu
[15:26] <miasma> BluesKaj_: it is, it's related to how you do the initramfs
[15:26] <miasma> BluesKaj_: i have experience with like 5 distros and raid
[15:27] <miasma> if you set up md support in kernel, it should automatically mount md0
[15:27] <miasma> however *buntu uses initramfs and modules
[15:27] <miasma> so something is fucked up
[15:29] <BluesKaj_> miasma, well , not many raid/mdadm questions arise here ..I'm trying to help you find an answer as quickly as possible and afaik  the ##linux is the right place to ask, believe me.
[15:29] <miasma> nevermind, i got it up. followed some stackoverflow questions
[15:29] <miasma> i had to disable quick boot
[15:29] <miasma> and redo initramfs
[15:30] <BluesKaj_> quickboot is a pita, it should be banned
[15:31] <miasma> also kubuntu installer doesn't seem to provide any options for doing raid
[15:31] <miasma> but it finds md drives if you install mdadm and assemble them
[16:58] <Ab3L> Ciao a Tutti!!!
[17:36] <JesseDhammu> hay i have installed chromium on my Kubuntu ..
[17:36] <JesseDhammu> but i am not able to install flash on it ..
[17:36] <JesseDhammu> how ever flash videos are working on mozilla
[17:37] <JesseDhammu> can anyone help ..
[17:41] <joern> JesseDhammu: install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:42] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu, if it doesn't work, try to copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[17:42] <JesseDhammu> ok
[17:42] <JesseDhammu> will i find it on the software center ..?
[17:43] <JesseDhammu> coz apt-get install dosent worked for me
[17:43] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu, sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:45] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu, which version of kubuntu are you running?
[17:48] <JesseDhammu> latest one
[17:48] <Ab3L> ok. so, before type that sudo apt-get, then try
[17:49] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu, if it doesn't work, i think you have to activate it with
[17:49] <Ab3L> sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[17:49] <JesseDhammu> 14.10 LTS
[17:49] <JesseDhammu> its saying command not found
[17:50] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu, so the solution of joern should work: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:50] <Ab3L> and then
[17:50] <Ab3L> sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[17:52] <Ab3L> btw, 14.10 it may be not a LTS ;)
[17:52] <JesseDhammu> no no its LTS
[17:52] <JesseDhammu> oops sorry
[17:52] <JesseDhammu> not lts
[17:53] <JesseDhammu> 14.10 64 bit
[17:53] <JesseDhammu> with plasma 4.14
[18:02] <Ab3L> JesseDhammu: going out. hope you solved your problem. bye.
[18:03] <JesseDhammu> thanks for the help
[18:04] <JesseDhammu> but problem is still there


[10:10] <mikini> Ubuntubruger3: Not unless you provide a lot more details. What hardware? What OS? Where does it halt? What messages do you see?


[02:17] <etyrnal> what's the general process for finding a driver for a particular chip that will be compatible with the banana pi m3, ubuntu, the kernel, etc?  Say you know the bpi-m3 has a AP6212 wireless chip, how does one go about finding a driver and incorporating it into the kernel etc?
[05:31] <snadge> i just installed 18.04 thinking i would see a 4.15 kernel.. and that expectation lead to immense disappointment ;)
[05:51] <snadge> proposed.. got it.. i'll pretend that didn't happen
[11:36] <apw> snadge, our kernels were delayed some because of all the effort diverted into meltdown/spectre
[11:52] <s10gopal> can anyone plz help me , after installing ubuntu 14.04.05lts my problem is solved , but i want to report that bug properly , what more info should i post ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[12:14] <s10gopal> can anyone plz help me , after installing ubuntu 14.04.05lts my problem is solved , but i want to report that bug properly , what more info should i post ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646     SOS report of ubuntu 14.04.05LTS added
[13:43] <s10gopal> i'm on 4.4.0-31-generic . I tried to install old kernel in ubuntu 16.04 (it was 4.10 ,4.11 and 4.8) but my laptop became super laggy . random processor was going to 99% use in use.
[13:44] <s10gopal> apw,
[14:57] <s10gopal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646 UPDATED


[04:44] <krow> Was there an issue with the launchpad openid server today?
[04:45] <wgrant> krow: There was a problem with the HTML-based OpenID discovery mechanism a few hours ago.
[04:46] <krow> wgrant: Ok… the Jenkins SSO openid plugin failed to work. It was just seeing the URL and couldn't see the username.
[04:46] <wgrant> krow: Is it working now?
[04:47] <wgrant> I'm not sure of the details of the problem; login.launchpad.net is nowadays just an alternate skin for login.ubuntu.com, which isn't managed by the Launchpad team.
[04:47] <wgrant> #canonical-isd will be more helpful if there's an ongoing issue.
[04:47] <krow> wgrant: Yes, it appears to be working.
[04:48] <krow> wgrant:  Are they using the same backend? IE one account works at either place?
[04:48] <wgrant> krow: Yes, they're the same database.
[04:48] <wgrant> Just different templates and CSS
[04:52] <krow> wgrant:  Thanks for answering
[17:35] <avances123> hello, I want to build a package in my ppa which dependes to others in a debian repo
[17:35] <avances123> is it possible?
[17:42] <dobey> an external arbitrary archive url? no, it's not possible to depend on that
[17:45] <avances123> can I build locally and upload the binaries?
[17:46] <shadeslayer> hi, I have this build failiure : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138113646/buildlog.txt.gz
[17:46] <shadeslayer> I'm not sure whats going wrong since it works on my machine and my colleague's machien
[17:46] <shadeslayer> *machine
[18:07] <dobey> avances123: no, you can only upload source packages to PPAs. what do you need that's not in ubuntu? your could also just build it in your PPA to satisfy your deps


[20:37] <infoturtle> is ubuntu-ie.org redundant for events or should I add one to it as well as the loco page?
[22:34] <infoturtle> ping airurando
[22:34] <airurando> pong infoturtle
[22:34] <infoturtle> how do sir?
[22:35] <airurando> good now
[22:35] <airurando> off for the weekend now
[22:35] <infoturtle> any chance you could pm me the idencia account info to put the news of the Limerick UH out there
[22:35] <infoturtle> lucky you, exams till Sat and hardest one tomorrow
[22:35] <airurando> will do
[22:35] <airurando> poor you
[22:36] <airurando> best of luck with it
[22:36] <infoturtle> meh, I signed up for the course, I knew there'd be tests, I don't mind, I just miss free time
[22:36] <infoturtle> brb time for tea


[11:46] <karni> ToyKeeper: Hi. Perhaps we could have someone add a note to the /UbuntuOne/Status wiki about U1 shutdown? (as we link to that page from this IRC channel)
[12:10] <NoNameYet_xnox> karni: done.
[12:12] <karni> NoNameYet_xnox: thanks, xnox
[13:13] <dobey> NoNameYet_xnox: maybe you should /nick xnox already ;)
[13:16] <NoNameYet_xnox> dobey: no name yet has been announced for u-series =( so archive is still not opened
[13:16] <dobey> but you are still xnox :)


[03:23] <ScottK> Laney: I asked a couple of questions in the bug.
[05:38] <Noskcaj> Can someone remove ubuntu-PPC from this iso trancker since it's not built any more
[08:23] <cjwatson> stgraber: just a 'debian/rules update' should be fine


[00:02] <vorlon> is pyyaml built against python3-dev instead of python3-all-dev?
[00:03] <vorlon> we might want to fix that for future proofing
[00:03] <vorlon> (that would also let pyyaml migrate now without python3-defaults, and make things less horrible)
[00:06] <vorlon> hmm it already build-depends on python3-all-dev and should be installable, but the -proposed version with python3.9 support hasn't migrated yet
[00:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmatio [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.5.19-2] (no packageset)
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmatio [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.5.19-2]
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmatio [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.5.19-2]
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmatio [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.5.19-2]
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmatio [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.5.19-2]
[01:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-cuda-toolkit [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/multiverse) [11.1.1-2] (no packageset)
[01:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: vtk9 [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1] (no packageset)
[02:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: vtk9 [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1] (no packageset)
[02:35] <vorlon> ghc migrated \o/
[02:35] <vorlon> (that's a thousand less packages for britney to nag me about)
[02:46] <mwhudson> yay
[02:48] <mwhudson> scipy still looks pretty unhappy
[02:48] <mwhudson> maybe that's a job for monday
[02:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: vtk9 [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1] (no packageset)
[03:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted vtk9 [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1]
[03:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted vtk9 [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1]
[03:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-cuda-toolkit [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [11.1.1-2]
[03:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted vtk9 [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [9.0.1+dfsg1-1]
[04:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpgm [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.128~dfsg-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[04:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpgm [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.128~dfsg-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[04:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpgm [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.128~dfsg-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[04:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpgm [i386] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.128~dfsg-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[04:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpgm [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.128~dfsg-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpgm [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.128~dfsg-2]
[05:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpgm [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.128~dfsg-2]
[05:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpgm [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.128~dfsg-2]
[05:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpgm [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.128~dfsg-2]
[05:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpgm [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.128~dfsg-2]
[06:43] <cpaelzer> Hi doko, could the recent https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-defaults/3.9.0-3 cause "Missing build dependencies: python3 (< 3.9)" due to indirect dependency breakage?
[06:44] <tumbleweed> sounds like something that needs a rebuild against python3.9 as default
[06:45] <cpaelzer> yeah, but the package that broke for me has no python* in deps - so it must be one of the base set of common build dependencies
[06:45] <cpaelzer> I'm checking which one it is and if a rebuild might already be in progress
[06:48] <cpaelzer> BD -> sssd-common -> python3-sss it is
[06:48] <cpaelzer>  python3-sss : Depends: python3 (< 3.9) but 3.9.0-3 is to be installed
[06:49] <rbalint> plusone doing +1 today, too, for a few hours because i lost a few hours on wednesday in my shift to regular work
[06:49] <cpaelzer> hi rbalint
[06:50] <rbalint> cpaelzer, o/
[06:50] <cpaelzer> usually the one driving the transition is doing the rebuilds against the new version - I'm not interfering by triggering an sssd rebuild now as something might not yet be ready
[06:54] <rbalint> mwhudson, scipy looks just a hint away from release pocket, that's not bad :-)
[06:59] <rbalint> mwhudson, hm, no, it is failing dask, indeed
[07:09] <rbalint> plusone looking at r-base
[07:10] <doko> yes, but builders in a very bad shape
[07:19] <doko> cpaelzer: sssd requires samba ...
[07:22] <cpaelzer> life is a circle .. of bugs
[07:23] <cpaelzer> sergiodj: ^^ FYI
[07:23] <cpaelzer> doko: even the rebuild of sssd needs samba?
[07:23] <doko> according to the transition tracker, yes
[07:23] <cpaelzer>  / sigh
[07:32] <doko> sergiodj: tdb/s390x ftbfs would need investigation first
[07:46] <doko> oSoMoN: I'm not uploading LO for python 3.9 before the datacenter move
[07:51] <doko> tdb/s390x succeeded on retry
[09:49] <doko> Laney: is britney happily running for 4h?
[09:50] <doko> Laney, juliank: are the ppc64el autopkg testers alive?
[09:50] <LocutusOfBorg> a new run just started
[09:50] <juliank> let's look
[09:50] <Laney> doko: just for information, you can see the same logs as me https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/hirsute/2020-11-20/
[09:51] <Laney> I can't look, on a call, will check later
[09:51] <juliank> doko: ppc64el workers are running, yes
[09:51] <juliank> the bos02 ones
[09:52] <juliank> 20 workers
[09:54] <juliank> that's all we have atm, normally we have 20 more workers in bos01
[09:55] <doko> Laney: ahh, ok so the 7am run timed out with urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error _ssl.c:629: The handshake operation timed out>
[09:55] <doko> and the current one still running
[09:56] <Laney> right
[09:57] <Laney> and that code already has retries, so ...
[09:58] <Laney> maybe there was downtime ?
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1100.111] (no packageset)
[09:58] <doko> at least buildd outage, that's why I was asking about the autopkg testers as well
[10:00] <Laney> different DC AFAIK
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1100.111]
[11:03] <Laney> just thought
[11:04] <Laney> the email policy should catch that exception and just warn shouldn't it
[11:04] <Laney> rather than crashing the whole run, failing to be able to send an email isn't that bad
[11:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: php-gettext [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/none) [1.0.12-1] (no packageset)
[11:32] <Laney> ah since pyyaml migrated, I guess I can retry those /unknown results ?
[11:32] <Laney> doko: ^ right?
[11:36] <doko> Laney: why was pyyaml needed?
[11:36] <Laney> ubuntu-minimal transitively depends on it
[11:36] <Laney> via netplan possibly, I didn't look
[11:37] <doko> sure, I think I only gave back a handful of unknown's this morning
[11:37] <Laney> ok, I have some code here to add a --only-unknown to retry-autopkgtest-regressions
[11:38] <Laney> I'll push that
[11:48] <juliank> Laney: we should force-skiptest dbus-python/1.2.16-4 so it can migrate? software-properties doesn't seem to work on armhf right now, and we need the new dbus-python to unbreak aptdaemon in release pocket
[11:49] <juliank> For completeness: aptdaemon has python3.9 shebangs, but dbus-python in release pocket is not built for 3.9 yet, causing it to fail
[11:50] <juliank> aptdaemon needs to run some extra debhelper that does the shebang rewriting
[11:50] <juliank> so future versions get unversioned shebangs
[11:51] <juliank> I think
[11:51] <juliank> I thought dh_python3 did that
[11:52] <juliank> confusing
[11:53] <Laney> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/s/software-properties/hirsute/armhf
[11:53] <Laney> why did everyone just spam retry on that multiple times
[11:54] <Laney> juliank: feels like a reset-test or badtest for s-p/armhf?
[11:54] <juliank> Laney: maybe, but it looks like launchpad issues today and I don't want to make a general call on that
[11:55] <Laney> don't understand what you mean there
[11:55] <rbalint> Laney, i triggered r-bioc-sva/ppc64el and it may have lost
[11:56] <rbalint> Laney, you said that i should not retry in those cases, could you please take a look?
[11:56] <cjwatson> juliank: What do Launchpad issues have to do with autopkgtests?
[11:56] <rbalint> Laney, the trigger was hello
[11:57] <cjwatson> Oh right, 403s from ppa.launchpad.net
[11:57] <juliank> Yeah, 403s I think and some timeouts
[11:57] <juliank> I haven't looked at all of them
[11:57] <rbalint> weren't those proxy issues?
[11:57] <cjwatson> Not so much Launchpad issues per se, but there's been GS2 network maintenance this morning
[11:57] <cjwatson> Almost certainly that
[11:57] <juliank> I don't know, but possible
[11:58] <cjwatson> It's supposed to be over for the time being, but it's part of preparing for the Boston datacentre move
[11:59] <Laney> rbalint: I don't believe you did trigger that
[11:59] <juliank> so Laney what I meant is that I did not look at the other issues and I think it might be temporary, so i was thinking about only getting that urgent dbus-python fix so aptdaemon works again
[11:59] <juliank> because I think the others did not cause that crazy regressions likely :D
[12:00] <juliank> but yeah, force-reset-test I guess would work
[12:01] <Laney> rbalint: The only mention of that package name in access.log is a s390x from bing which we 403ed
[12:01] <Laney> thanks very much bing
[12:01] <Laney> juliank: reset-test feels good, I will do that
[12:05] <rbalint> Laney, thanks, interesting
[12:06] <rbalint> Laney, oh, it was yesterday
[12:07] <rbalint> Laney, i triggered r-bioc-sva/s390x that went through
[12:08] <Laney> right, there's no 'hello' request from yesterday either
[12:08] <Laney> ubuntu@juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-2:~$ egrep request.*ppc64el.*r-bioc-sva.*hello /var/log/apache2/access.log.1
[12:08] <Laney> ubuntu@juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-2:~$
[12:09] <Laney> but your other three(!) requests are all in the log
[12:13] <rbalint> Laney, interesting, thanks
[12:25] <Laney> rbalint: btw, you should know about retry-autopkgtest-regressions --no-proposed I guess, instead of using 'hello
[12:25] <Laney> '
[12:28] <Laney> ok retried all the unknowns
[12:33] <rbalint> Laney, thanks, but hello works for packages in proposed
[12:39] <Laney> right
[12:40] <Laney> are you planning to automate this or do it regularly?
[12:44] <rbalint> Laney, no, i just use it to mass trigger a range of failures, usually in combination with --log-regex  or with  | grep package=...
[12:45] <Laney> right, I'm worried you are implementing baseline retesting from the outside
[12:45] <doko> Eickmeyer[m]: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/507846803/buildlog_ubuntu-hirsute-amd64.agordejo_0.1.1-0ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:45] <Laney> if not then ok
[13:23] <rbalint> Laney, could you please check https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/394180 for rbase and others?
[13:23] <rbalint> Laney, also https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/394209
[13:55] <slyon> May I bring this i386-whitelist change request to any AAs attention? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pycryptodome/+bug/1904987
[14:26] <rbalint> sil2100, could you please check the merges i pinged Laney with?
[14:28] <rbalint> plusone r-base should be ready to migrate after the hints are merged
[14:46] <rbalint> cpaelzer, retried cyrus-imapd/amd64 because is was still sad
[14:46] <sil2100> rbalint: looking in a moment
[14:46] <sil2100> slyon: and here as well
[14:48] <slyon> sil2100: thanks o/ AFAIU a no-change rebuild is needed after the package is accepted into the whitelist. Debdiff is attached to the bug
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: s390-tools (xenial-proposed/main) [1.34.0-0ubuntu8.10 => 1.34.0-0ubuntu8.11] (no packageset)
[15:17] <rbalint> sil2100, added more hints
[15:18] <cjwatson> s390x builders are going down shortly for the DC move - I've put them all on manual
[15:18] <Laney> rbalint: sorry, I'm on a call
[15:19] <Laney> but yes, I should do that with autopkgtest workers too
[15:19] <sil2100> rbalint: ok, looking at it now anyway
[15:20] <sil2100> slyon: will sponsor in a moment!
[15:21] <Laney> ok, s390x autopkgtesters off too
[15:24] <sil2100> rbalint: and what's up with ganeti? I don't see it having any i386 binaries?
[15:30] <sergiodj> doko: would it be possible to file bugs for what you want me to do?  I'm very busy with other stuff right now, but taking care of samba & sssd are definitely at the top of my TODO list
[15:31] <rbalint> sil2100, test is still listed as regressing for ganet/proposed
[15:33] <doko> sergiodj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1905048
[15:35] <vorlon> however, --no-proposed fails if the package being triggered has a version in -proposed
[15:35] <vorlon> Laney, rbalint: ^^
[15:36] <Laney> yeah, the doc string notes that
[15:36] <Laney> migration-reference/0!
[15:36] <rbalint> +1
[15:36] <rbalint> until then hello is good enough
[15:48]  * vorlon nods
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed confuse from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed ruby-setup from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added fonts-noto to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added fonts-noto-color-emoji to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added pycryptodome to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added sphinx-autoapi to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added unidecode to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[16:25] <cpaelzer> rbalint: the cyrus issue this adressed was only ppc64
[16:25] <cpaelzer> rbalint: I haven't looked at its amd64 results - might be a different issue there
[16:25] <cpaelzer> but at least in the PKG that got me to cyrus only ppc64 failed, all other arches were ok
[16:41] <doko> Laney, vorlon: are transition tracker updates running?
[16:43] <rbalint> sil2100, vorlon please merge to let us retry petsc4py https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/394209
[16:45] <rbalint> sil2100, vorlon Laney  i pressed retry, please merge before the package hits the workers
[16:45] <rbalint> is was queued anyway for python3-defaults
[16:45] <doko> I call it a week ...
[16:46] <Laney> doko: should be, I'll look in a minute, maybe something got stuck since there were network outages earlier
[16:47] <sergiodj> doko: thanks
[16:47] <Laney> rbalint: why press retry before it's merged? you'll just get it not run on a large instance.
[16:47] <Laney> as just happened
[16:47] <Laney> :(
[16:51] <rbalint> Laney, i thought the mapping happens when it is picked from the queue
[16:51] <Laney> it does
[16:51] <rbalint> i see no info on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running about queued items being mapped
[16:52] <rbalint> to length of vm sizes
[16:52] <Laney> but now it's running
[16:52] <Laney> and the thing is not merged
[16:52] <rbalint> Laney, could you please merge it?
[16:53] <Laney> in a minute
[16:53] <rbalint> Laney, thanks
[16:53] <Laney> but still, don't press the button until you get the merge in future please
[16:53] <rbalint> Laney, ok, but please merge quicker
[16:53] <Laney> rbalint: didn't one of your earlier changes here fail to fix a failure? iirc
[16:53]  * Laney shrugs
[16:54] <Laney> if that's right, can you revert it please? having too many of these large tgests can be painful
[16:54] <Laney> they take up 4x as much of our quota than regular ones
[16:54] <rbalint> Laney, that was a different package
[16:55] <Laney> which?
[16:56] <rbalint> Laney, cross-toolchain-base, checking
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> doko: That means there was a fundamental change in Python between when I submitted the package (over two weeks ago!) and now. I'll let uptream know.
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> THIS is why we need more efficiency for package reviews.
[17:00] <rbalint> Laney, i'd like to wait for a successful run of cross-toolchain-base because it passed after ~8 hours when using the small vm and this is a very significant delay in migration
[17:01] <rbalint> Laney, let's see how much time it needs to pass on a big vm
[17:02] <Laney> delaying 3 other tests for the whole length of the run should also weigh into your reasoning
[17:03] <Laney> but ok, if it is a significant gain then it could be justified
[17:19] <Laney> rbalint: right, I see a ton of failures before your changes and a ton after, including a screenful of parallel large tests 😱 so I think you just managed to fail a *little* bit faster
[17:19] <rbalint> Laney, regarding failures my proposal is LP :#1903913
[17:20] <rbalint> Laney, regarding failures my proposal is LP: #1903913
[17:20] <Laney> if it's forced, why are you bothered about retrying it?
[17:20] <rbalint> Laney, running on big vms will help with successful runs
[17:21] <rbalint> Laney, it got forced later
[17:22] <Laney> rbalint: ok, since your bug there is not addressed atm I'm going to remove it from big_packages and once it is fixed and verified on arm64 e.g. using Canonistack please ping me back and we can look to re-add it then
[17:23]  * rbalint shrugs
[17:24] <Laney> if you've followed the logs and saw 'quota exceeded' as much as I have you'd also be concerned about controlling resource usage :-)
[17:24] <Laney> s/you've/you'd/
[17:26] <rbalint> Laney, then don't run the failing tests?
[17:27] <rbalint> Laney, i do care about making the most out of the quota but plaing with the big package list does not help as did not enough in the past years either
[17:27] <rbalint> Laney, what really helps is not running tests with no signal and pushing out excess tests to clouds
[17:28] <Laney> yeah thanks, one thing is a task I can do in 5 seconds, the other takes thinking about, planning, testing and doing so they're not equivalent
[17:28] <rbalint> Laney, does not make the obsolete 5s task worth doing it
[17:29] <Laney> it's not obsolete, not sure why you would say that
[17:29] <Laney> anyway this feels like it's getting close to an argument, so I think we should both step away
[17:30] <rbalint> Laney, ok, the 5s task has a tiny tiny impact
[18:14] <rbalint> Laney, sorry, just would like to improve the testing infra significally, let's discuss the bigger tasks at the next +1 meeting
[19:42] <cjwatson> Eickmeyer[m]: It would just show up in a test rebuild anyway, or maybe surprise you when you least expect it and you're trying to fix something else small - better to find out earlier :)
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pcl (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.7.2-14build1 => 1.7.2-14build1.1] (no packageset)
[19:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> cjwatson: Agreed, but I still could've been on it sooner. Turns out upstream runs Arch which is still on Python 3.8 (ironically).
[19:44] <mdeslaur> hello SRU team, could someone please approve pcl in the xenial upload queue into -proposed, it's the second part of bug 1573234
[19:46] <vorlon> doko: what is the addition of libgtop2 for in update-i386-whitelist?
[20:01] <vorlon> mdeslaur: this is not a very reproducible test case
[20:01] <vorlon> mdeslaur: I shouldn't have to chase down build-dependencies one-by-one to reproduce the failure
[20:02] <vorlon> (and I'm taking a close look at this one because the idea of no-change SRU rebuilds magically fixing things makes me uneasy)
[20:04] <LocutusOfBorg> arm64/armhf/ppc64el jobs are failing with no logs
[20:04] <LocutusOfBorg> retrying doesn't help
[20:09] <vorlon> possibly related to the datacenter move happening this weekend.  Those bits aren't scheduled to be moved yet but there could be transient network misconfigurations etc
[20:09] <vorlon> cjwatson, wgrant: ^^ can you speak to the state of ARM/ppc64el builders in LP?
[20:13] <vorlon> mdeslaur: git clone of the referenced perception_pcl project, followed by manually futzing with build-deps, and then 'cmake pcl_conversions', gives me a makefile with an empty 'all' target.  I'm not willing to advance this without a cleaner test case
[20:26] <cjwatson> vorlon: Not specifically.  I can see logs that suggest network issues but don't know exactly what, and I'm also EOW - best ask IS
[20:28] <cjwatson> But it's all somewhat at risk at the moment due to network changes being made to prepare for the move
[20:29] <vorlon> right, thanks
[20:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (focal-proposed/main) [2.664.8 => 2.664.9] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[20:48] <mdeslaur> vorlon: ok, thanks, I'll let the reporter know
[21:00] <kyrofa> mdeslaur, vorlon: please take another look at the test case on bug 1573234, it's been greatly simplified and hopefully makes more sense
[21:02] <kyrofa> vorlon, note that the no-change rebuild propogates the dependency fix to properly use the system libproj instead of the vtk-vendored version, which isn't actually used by vtk at all
[21:02] <kyrofa> vorlon, but pcl ended up with the vendored lib in its cmake config files
[21:10] <kyrofa> vorlon, so the situation in Xenial right now is that vtk is built against the system libproj, but anyone linking against it tries to link against its vendored version
[21:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (xenial-proposed/main) [2.408.61 => 2.408.62] (desktop-core)
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (bionic-proposed/main) [2.525.47 => 2.525.48] (desktop-core)
[21:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (xenial-proposed/main) [2.408.61 => 2.408.63] (desktop-core)
[22:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-menu (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.49 => 0.50~20.10.1] (ubuntustudio)
[22:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> ^ SRU bug 1905061


[01:58] <YokoZar> So it looks like Gnometris is still completely broken by default in Hardy
[01:59] <LaserJock> how is it broken?
[02:00] <YokoZar> If you use the default theme, it renders the tiles way too slowly and becomes very uncontrollable after a few lines of blocks build up
[02:00] <YokoZar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/138586
[02:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138586 in gnome-games "Gnometris controls very unresponsive when keys are held down" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:00] <LaserJock> hmm, works fine here
[02:01] <YokoZar> Try pre-filling 10 rows with tango shaded theme, then just hold down left and right
[02:01] <Fujitsu> The default is still Tango Shaded (or was a week ago), so it's rather painful once you've got more than a dozen blocks :(
[02:02] <YokoZar> It's really embarassing actually.  Can't run Tetris on our amazing new high performance operating system (it's broken in Gutsy too)
[02:02] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[02:03]  * minghua hopes that minesweeper still works fine.
[02:06] <YokoZar> minghua: you can also install wine and run winemine from the terminal :)
[02:22] <LaserJock> well, does somebody want to change the default?
[02:46] <YokoZar> LaserJock: it's a main package, right?
[03:15] <LaserJock> YokoZar: yeah
[03:15] <YokoZar> LaserJock: well, I nominate a core dev then ;)
[03:16] <LaserJock> YokoZar: you might want to email ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <ScottK2> YokoZar: You can make a debdiff and subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors
[04:00] <YokoZar> ScottK2: I guess so, it seems like no one else wants to do it, heh
[04:02] <emgent> heya ScottK2
[04:03] <ScottK2> heya emgent
[04:11] <climatewarrior> does anyone know if this is a bug
[04:12] <climatewarrior> I installed ubuntu hardy beta and restricted doesnt seem to recognize my broadcom card. In gutsy it automatically fetched the firmware and got everything working
[04:15] <LaserJock> climatewarrior: perhaps bug #197558
[04:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197558 in linux "ssb module breaks BCM4328 with ndiswrapper (regression from 2.6.24-10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197558
[04:18] <climatewarrior> humm thats a different issue. I have a broadcom 4309 and the device works. The only issue is that I had to manually do the firmware cutting. In Gutsy restricted detected my card. Fetched the firmware from the internet and cut it for me.
[04:19] <climatewarrior> i just wanted to know if this a known issue or something. Because if its not I wanted to file a bug report.
[04:33] <climatewarrior> Bug #201294 seems to be the same as mine
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201294 in restricted-manager "Restricted manager doesn't notice broadcom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201294
[04:34] <climatewarrior> hahah found it at the same time. Yeah that seems to be it. But it seems that nobody is working at it
[04:43] <climatewarrior> ok, dont worry. Its a known issue
[04:43] <climatewarrior> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/restricted-manager-rewrite
[04:43] <climatewarrior> Whiteboard     jockey is in hardy, and being tested and fixed.  Compared to gutsy's rm, the following things are still missing:
[04:43] <climatewarrior>  - KDE port, Martin Bohm is working on it
[04:43] <climatewarrior>  - broadcom wifi hander (easy to implement)
[04:46] <ashes_of_youth> can anyone offer me some advice regarding a broken translation?
[04:49] <calc> hmm launchpad-integration works a lot better than using the url, heh, i need to get this in ooo asap
[04:50] <calc> it actually reports useful info, i should have worked on this bug a long time ago
[04:50] <ashes_of_youth> hello
[04:50] <calc> hi
[04:51] <Fujitsu> calc: Indeed. No more asking on every bug which version people have.
[04:51] <calc> Fujitsu: yea
[04:52] <ashes_of_youth> guys, i am trying to find out once a bug has been nominated, are there any further steps to take?
[04:52] <Fujitsu> Why did you nominate a bug?
[04:53] <ScottK2> ashes_of_youth: Not unless you are going to try and fix the bug.
[04:53] <ashes_of_youth> someone else nominated one of my bugs
[04:53] <ashes_of_youth> its a broken translation, which i've fixed on launchpad
[04:53] <ScottK2> Ah.
[04:54] <ScottK2> If I knew something about translations in Ubuntu, I'd be glad to help you figure it out ...
[04:54]  * calc patches up for lpi to see if it works :
[04:54] <calc> :)
[04:55] <ashes_of_youth> i guess i'll leave it for now then...
[05:00] <emgent> heya calc :)
[05:00] <calc> emgent: hi
[05:20] <calc> building test debs with more proper lpi support (still not linked)
[06:00] <vlowther> Bug #212660, suspect mjg59's three headed monkey spootted in wild in 2.6.24-1[45]
[06:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212660 in linux "kernel 2.6.24-15 fails suspending" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212660
[11:11] <YokoZa1> pitti: Hmm, my blog posts don't seem to be getting to Planet Ubuntu.  I noticed you committed after me, have you been having a similar problem?
[11:53] <sabdfl> anybody here know how to use unattended-upgrade ?
[11:54] <Nafallo> sabdfl: like in turn it on?
[11:54] <sabdfl> yes
[11:54] <sabdfl> i thought one only had to install it
[11:55] <Nafallo> System, Administration, Software Sources
[11:55] <Nafallo> then tab Updates and Install security updates without confirmation
[11:56] <Nafallo> :-)
[12:06] <slytherin> pitti: I think I have found the problem for OOo FTBFS on powerpc. But I am unable to test it since I don't have much disk space on my machine. We need to remove the code from rules file that disables java on powerpc. Look for this line - Java causes powerpc build to fail.
[12:13] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Hi, Can you please look into the missing binaries bug for bluez-utils. I think there is no other way to fix it now.
[12:14] <Hobbsee> slytherin: which bug #?
[12:15] <slytherin> Hobbsee: regarding what? bluez-utils?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> yes
[12:15] <slytherin> Hobbsee: bug 191704
[12:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191704 in bluez-utils "hidd binary removed form bluez-utils package unable to connect as a result" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191704
[12:16] <slytherin> Hobbsee: and also bug 192403
[12:16] <ubotu> Bug 192403 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/192403 is private
[12:16] <slytherin> oops, bug 192043
[12:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192043 in bluez-utils "latest bluez-utils is missing /usr/bin/pand" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192043
[12:19] <Hobbsee> slytherin: StevenK might end up looking into that
[12:20] <slytherin> Hobbsee: Ok. Can you also help me with OOo FTBFS on powerpc? I think I have found out solution but don't have much space on my ibook to test it. :-(
[12:21] <Hobbsee> no
[12:21] <Hobbsee> there might be a community ppc machine somewhere still, though.  TheMuso may remember
[12:22] <slytherin> Hobbsee: Ok. I will try contacting him in my night.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> slytherin: he's @ canonical now, so you might try him during standard au working hours.
[12:23] <slytherin> Hobbsee: So that means I will have to wait till tomorrow.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> probably, yes
[12:24] <slytherin> Hobbsee: Ok. Thanks for info.
[12:24] <Hobbsee> y/w
[12:26] <sabdfl> Nafallo: and on a server?
[12:26]  * Hobbsee tries to remember what hte ppc build machine was called, on imbrandon's server....
[12:26] <Hobbsee> darn, it's been far too long since i've used it
[12:27] <Nafallo> sabdfl: edit /etc/cron.daily/apt I think. haven't seen a CLI application for that I don't think.
[12:29] <Nafallo> sabdfl: aha! there is another way the README says ;-)
[12:29] <Nafallo> To activate this script you need a current apt and then setup
[12:29] <Nafallo> /etc/apt/apt.conf to include:
[12:29] <Nafallo> APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1";
[12:29] <Nafallo> APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";
[12:32] <sabdfl> why on earth doesn't it do that when it's installed?
[12:33] <Nafallo> sabdfl: you'd have to ask mvo :-)
[12:33]  * Hobbsee was wondering that too
[12:33] <sabdfl> thanks Nafallo, will do
[12:33] <laga> what upgrades are pulled in by unattended-upgrade?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> laga: apt-get upgrade, i think.
[12:34] <Nafallo> sabdfl: are you going for the pub on Friday anyway? :-)
[12:34] <Nafallo> laga: security.ubuntu.com only :-)
[12:35] <Hobbsee> wow, that's old when it references dapper.
[12:35] <laga> Nafallo: ah, good. :)
[12:36] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: i was going for the "why isn't this installed by default", actually
[12:37] <laga> Nafallo: still not a good idea becuase security updates aren't always trouble free :)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> particularly for xserver
[12:38] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: because of the reason laga said? :-)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: yeah, but still.
[12:39] <sabdfl> Hobbsee: it will become a question in the server install in 8.10
[12:39] <laga> at least in feisty, some kernel updates in feisty-security also had support for new hardware which led to some breakage here.. easy to fix, but still surprising :)
[12:39] <sabdfl> in exchange for the "make your clock UTC" question
[12:39] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: because security updates have regressions from time to time. I rather have a hard to get exploit then a security update killing SQL ;-)
[12:39] <sabdfl> imo, installing the package should activate it
[12:39] <Nafallo> sabdfl: kewl :-)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: ah, right.
[12:39] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: well, yeah, that's the other thing.
[12:39] <sabdfl> at least, the UTC question will disappear if windows is not on the machine
[12:40]  * Hobbsee could hijack, and fix the package....
[12:40] <Hobbsee> but, seeing as it has "apt" in the name, that may not be a great idea...
[12:40] <slytherin> Hobbsee: can you please give back f-spot on powerpc?
[12:41]  * Hobbsee flips the magic switches
[12:41] <Hobbsee> slytherin: given back
[12:44] <laga> Hobbsee: what does "giving back" mean? i've heard it a few times in here so i'm curious :)
[12:44] <Hobbsee> laga: sometimes packages fail to build because of other things that haven't built, or other transient stuff.
[12:45] <Nafallo> haha
[12:45] <Hobbsee> laga: to give them back means to requeue them, so they're added to the build queue again
[12:45] <Hobbsee> for slower arches, it's actually quite common
[12:45] <Nafallo> people are coming up with names for releases up until 12.10 in -se ;-)
[12:45] <laga> Hobbsee: ah, thanks for the explanation
[12:45] <Hobbsee> some will fail in depwait, so will be auto-retried, but others fail in such a way they need a manual giveback
[12:49] <slytherin> Hobbsee: something wrong on buildd. f-spot depwaits on libgtkhtml3.16-cil. The binary is available on all arch. But not sure why buildd not able to find it.
[12:51] <Hobbsee> slytherin: URL of the depwait?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> ohj wait
[12:51] <slytherin> Hobbsee: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13146622/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-powerpc.f-spot_0.4.2-1ubuntu1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[12:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, found it, thanks
[12:51] <Hobbsee> realised i already had it here, so didn't need to look it up
[12:53] <Hobbsee> slytherin: libgtkhtml3.16-cil | 2.20.1-2ubuntu2 | hardy/universe | powerpc
[12:53] <Hobbsee> slytherin: you'll need an archive admin with actual power.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> unless sabdfl suddenly wants to give me the keys :P
[12:53] <slytherin> Hobbsee: what do you mean. I thought you were buildd admin.
[12:54] <Hobbsee> slytherin: file a bug asking them to promote  libgtkhtml3.16-cil on ppc (the others are in main), and subscribe ubuntu-archive.
[12:54] <Hobbsee> slytherin: i am, but i don't work for canonical.
[12:54] <Hobbsee> slytherin: so i only have access to some of the magic switches.
[12:54] <slytherin> Hobbsee: oh. got it.
[12:54] <Fujitsu> 1.2.4 will give access to overrides, IIRC.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: for main or universe?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: or both, i guess?
[12:55] <Fujitsu> The web UI gets overridability, I believe.
[12:55] <Fujitsu> Probably both.
[12:55]  * Hobbsee thought the general thing was for universe archive admins to be able to bump to multiverse, but hopefully archive admins to main will happen too
[12:56] <Hobbsee> slytherin: have you met rmadison?
[12:56] <Nafallo> :-)
[12:56] <slytherin> Hobbsee: yes. Just forgot to use it. :-)
[12:56] <Hobbsee> slytherin: and if it says the package isn't available, and the package you want to build is in main, it's saying that you should check if the builddep has dropped to universe.
[12:57] <Hobbsee> slytherin: ahhh, np.
[13:00] <slytherin> Hobbsee: done. bug 212801
[13:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212801 in gnome-desktop-sharp2 "Please promote to main on powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212801
[13:01]  * Hobbsee acks
[15:15] <pitti> Good morning
[15:15] <ion_> Howdy
[15:16]  * pitti waves from Austin
[15:17] <protonchris> Good morning to you too
[15:17] <ion_> pitti: Try to seem as innocuous as possible to avoid being classified as an enemy combatant and getting thrown to Gitmo. :-)
[15:18] <Hobbsee> heya pitti!  *hugs*
[15:34]  * pitti hugs Hobbsee
[15:34] <Hobbsee> :)
[15:34] <pitti> ion_: I'll keep my brim pulled down low
[16:03] <penguin42> would it be possible to get paman/padevchooser installed by default on hardy - it looks like it might make it easier to see wtf is going on with pa
[16:04] <Hobbsee> by now, no?
[16:05] <cody-somerville> Hobbsee, are you on the release team?
[16:05] <Hobbsee> cody-somerville: yes.
[16:06] <cody-somerville> Do you have time for a quick chat?
[16:06] <Hobbsee> fsvo quick, yes.
[16:06] <penguin42> Hobbsee: PA is pretty high up the list of problems for upgrades - and it's not easy for people to debug
[16:07] <penguin42> Hobbsee: Talking users running pacmd to see what's going on sounds like a recipe for disaster
[16:07] <ernstp> What's the procedure to request a debian import again?
[16:08] <Hobbsee> !sync
[16:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:08] <Hobbsee> bah
[16:08] <Hobbsee> shoujld be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing
[16:16] <Hobbsee> pitti: why is'nt all of abiword demoted?
[16:16] <Hobbsee> i don't see anything keeping it there?
[16:16] <pitti> Hobbsee: because so far we wanted it in main? pretty GNOMEish
[16:16] <pitti> Hobbsee: it's seeeded
[16:16] <pitti> seeded, too
[16:16] <Hobbsee> pitti: where, though?
[16:17] <Hobbsee> pitti: i thought you all used oo.o, and it was only xubuntu that used abiword
[16:17] <pitti> in ubuntu.hardy/dvd, edubuntu.hardy/supported, xubuntu.hardy/desktop
[16:18] <Hobbsee> ahh
[16:19] <Hobbsee> pitti: so, why is abiword (binary) in universe?
[16:19] <Hobbsee> shouldn't it all be seeded?
[16:19] <pitti> because Xubuntu is in universe, and in Ubuntu we only want -gnome
[16:19] <Hobbsee> ahhh, and -plugins, i take it.
[16:19] <pitti> well, I guess it wouldn't hurt too much to seed abiword, too
[16:19] <pitti> yes
[16:19] <Hobbsee> pitti: what are your thoughts on upgrading it?
[16:19] <Hobbsee> cody-somerville: would like to, for xubuntu
[16:19] <pitti> Hobbsee: I think we should do it, but test it really well
[16:20] <pitti> is there a PPA with 2.6?
[16:20] <Hobbsee> cody-somerville: ^^
[16:20] <cody-somerville> No, I'm just working through my e-mail. I can certainly make that happen though.
[16:23]  * Hobbsee wonders hwo apt-show-versions is different to rmadison
[16:24] <cody-somerville> I can also get the Xubuntu testing team to add in specific testing for Abiword since we ship (a version of) abiword.
[16:25] <Hobbsee> cody-somerville: that'd be a good idea
[16:32] <cody-somerville> hmm...
[16:32] <cody-somerville> Abiword has split their source package up
[16:34] <xhaker> ahh weekends... pitti care to look into bug #197968
[16:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197968 in libmtp "Link in udev rules.d" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197968
[16:55] <cody-somerville> Stupid wireless :/
[16:56]  * cody-somerville wonders what he missed.
[16:56] <soren> Nothing.
[16:57] <cody-somerville> what was my last?
[17:02] <soren> 15:32:34 < cody-somerville> Abiword has split their source package up
[17:02] <soren> 15:34:39 < xhaker> ahh weekends... pitti care to look into bug #197968
[17:02] <soren> 15:34:43 *** fta_ n=fta@unaffiliated/fta has joined #ubuntu-devel
[17:02] <soren> 15:35:04 < ubotu> Launchpad bug 197968 in libmtp "Link in udev rules.d" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/197968
[17:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197968 in libmtp "Link in udev rules.d" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197968
[17:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197968 in libmtp "Link in udev rules.d" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[17:04] <cody-somerville> The rest of what I said: That is probably why Ubuntu and Debian is still at 2.4.6
[17:04] <cody-somerville> They split up the source package with the 2.5.0 release.
[19:30] <shaya> anyone seen vorlon?
[19:31] <slangasek> nope
[19:31] <james_w> hehe
[19:31] <shaya> hola
[19:31] <shaya> just responded to your response on my grub bug
[19:32] <shaya> did ubuntu ever ship a grub pre 0.97?
[19:33] <slangasek> oh, "spotter" is you, heh
[19:34] <shaya> yes
[19:34] <shaya> shaya potter
[19:34] <slangasek> ubuntu would have shipped a pre-0.97 grub at some point
[19:34] <james_w> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub
[19:34] <james_w> says pre-dapper
[19:35] <shaya> so upgrading to hardy will kill render it unbootable (especially if uninstall old kernel)
[19:35] <slangasek> e.g., sarge shipped with 0.95+cvs-something, and there were Ubuntu releases in the same timeframe; that seems to be the version breezy shipped with
[19:35] <shaya> this laptop was an old debian laptop
[19:35] <slangasek> what exactly is it that causes the boot failure?
[19:35] <shaya> partitioned it and installed dapper
[19:35] <shaya> new kernels cant boot w/ older grub
[19:35] <shaya> known issue
[19:36] <slangasek> how old?
[19:36] <shaya> google "no setup signatures found"
[19:36] <emgent> hi people
[19:36] <shaya> unsure
[19:36] <shaya> checking
[19:36] <slangasek> the oldest I find in the changelog is still 0.95+cvs
[19:37] <slangasek> and that's all the way back to warty
[19:38] <shaya> but I think there's a bigger issue w/ grub as well, as mbr portion never gets updates
[19:38] <slangasek> well, neither does second-stage, unless you manually run grub-install
[19:39] <shaya> right
[19:39] <shaya> that's probably the bigger issue
[19:39] <shaya> the second-stage
[19:39] <shaya> the mbr portion is minimal
[19:40] <slangasek> I will say that making changes to how we handle *any* of this stuff, three weeks before an LTS release, is a losing proposition.  I don't believe three weeks is enough time to chase down the regressions that will be introduced by adding new code to re-write MBR/second stage on upgrade.
[19:41] <shaya> :)
[19:41] <shaya> no
[19:41] <shaya> I'm not saying to auto do it
[19:41] <shaya> I'm saying in kernel preinst check
[19:41] <shaya> and if fail, warn in big letters
[19:41] <slangasek> well, then the kernel has to know how to detect a broken bootloader
[19:41] <shaya> right
[19:41] <shaya> can grep stage2
[19:42] <shaya> q. being how to "find" stage2
[19:42] <slangasek> it should be at /boot/grub/stage2 for any non-mangled Ubuntu install
[19:42] <slangasek> if it's not, it's out of scope
[19:42] <slangasek> hmm, what does "file /boot/grub/stage2" give you?
[19:42] <slangasek> here, it spits out a GRUB version for me
[19:42] <shaya> well, I'm updated now
[19:43] <slangasek> ah, heh
[19:43] <slangasek> still have the old one around somewhere?
[19:43] <shaya> found a feisty dvd
[19:43] <shaya> booted into single user
[19:43] <shaya> chrooted into fs
[19:43] <shaya> and fixed
[19:43] <shaya> no
[19:43] <shaya> it was 0.92
[19:43] <slangasek> yeah, I don't know where to get an 0.92 to compare with
[19:43] <slangasek> but if "file" is enough to answer this question, that's a really easy check
[19:44] <shaya> /boot/grub/stage2 isn't even executable for me
[19:44] <shaya> ah
[19:44] <shaya> yes
[19:44] <shaya> I see
[19:44] <shaya> just need to find the newest version where grub is incompatible
[19:44] <slangasek> so far the only other instance of this problem that Google is giving me is for grub 0.91
[19:44] <shaya> yes
[19:45] <slangasek> which is even older, and definitely older than the first version Ubuntu shipped
[19:45] <shaya> :)
[19:46] <shaya> reading grub changelog
[19:46] <shaya> see if there's any mention
[19:57] <shaya> slangasek: I'm not the first to hit this
[19:57] <shaya> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/29013
[19:58] <slangasek> mmm
[19:59] <shaya> well he beat me by a few hours
[19:59] <shaya> I was about 12 hours ago :)
[19:59] <shaya> followed up
[20:12] <laga> cjwatson: here? i'm working on the mythbuntu seeds now :) what does the Task-Key field do?
[20:16] <soren> laga: If the package mentioned there does not exist, the task will not be shown.
[20:16] <soren> laga: If one of the other packages is not available it simply will not be installed.
[20:16] <laga> oh, it's as simple as that. great, thanks.
[20:17] <alex-weej> does anyone know if gnome 2.22.1 will be uploaded before hardy release?
[20:38] <JohnPinWa> Hello.  I'm looking for ways to contribute to Ubuntu as a developer.  I'm reading the "How to get involved" web pages but can't find the "Do this step next" instructions.  Who do I tell I'm here and ask how I can help?
[20:38] <laga> JohnPinWa: i think #ubuntu-motu might be a good starting point, too
[20:39] <JohnPinWa> Yeah, the developer stuff says go see Motu and the Motu stuff says "Well, start with developer".  Kinda confused now.
[20:39] <JohnPinWa> This channel has more activity than the motu so I started here.  I'll ask there too.
[20:41] <YokoZar> pitti: any objections to me uploading a new ia32-libs?
[20:41] <laga> JohnPinWa: heh :)
[20:42] <laga> JohnPinWa: you can also start looking at blueprints in launchpad, then contact the person who's listed as a contact for the blueprint if you're interested
[20:42] <JohnPinWa> Probably just my ignorance.  If things aren't just the way I expect them to be I have trouble reaching out sometimes.  But I still might be useful.
[20:47] <laga> JohnPinWa: no worries! i'm sure you'll do great. a lot of open source development happens because people want to scratch an itch. so, if a bug is annoying you, fix it and share the patch.. or create that awesome new app you always wanted and let others benefit.
[20:51] <JohnPinWa> Laga: Thanks.  Getting some feedback on the Motu channel so I'll see where that goes.
[20:51] <JohnPinWa> I do appreciate the help.
[21:06] <warp10> Hi all!
[21:18] <mok0> Hi warp10
[21:18] <warp10> hey mok0!
[21:22] <emgent> hey
[21:28] <Ng> mjg59: how likely are ICH8 chipsets not listed in http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/ahci_quirk_2.6.24.diff to work? The X300 has 2850 (IDE controller) and 2829 (AHCI controller). Mostly just curious if I can get the DVD writer on AHCI
[21:28] <mjg59> It's unlikely that the DVD writer is SATA
[21:28] <mjg59> If the hard drive is already appearing on AHCI, then that's as AHCI as you get
[21:52] <mezell1> There's a fairly serious bug that has been in launchpad for over a month that is affecting me, but no developer has commented on it... what's the chance of getting a developer to look at and fix the problem before Hardy release?
[21:56] <mok0> mezell1:  bug #?
[21:57] <mezell1> 191884
[21:57] <mok0> bug 191884
[21:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191884 in libnss-ldap "wrong id behaviour on a system with LDAP" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191884
[21:57] <mezell1> with the current combination of coreutils and libnss-ldap, you cannot get group information
[21:58] <mok0> mezell1: hmm
[21:59] <mok0> mezell1: has it been fixed in Debian?
[21:59] <mezell1> debian testing has version 259 instead of the 258... i'm not sure if that fixes it or not
[21:59] <mezell1> i've only installed 260
[22:00] <mok0> mezell1: ... and that fixes the problem?
[22:01] <mezell1> mok0: installing 260 from source (ie, from padl, not debian) fixes the problem
[22:02] <mok0> mezell1: It would be good if you would do a bit of work, but then there is a good chance that the bug could be fixed before hardy
[22:03] <mok0> mezell1: you need to make a comment for the bug saying that the new upstream version solves the problem, and (2) attach the part of upstream changelog that explains diffs from 258-260
[22:04] <mezell1> mok0: my last comment notes that the latest upstream version fixes it, and I provide instructions as a workaround for others with the problem
[22:05] <mezell1> mok0: in the ChangeLog, version 260 lists one change, "* patch from Ralf Haferkamp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>only set errno for NSS_TRYAGAIN"
[22:05] <mok0> mezell1: I see that, but you need to make a comment aimed at the sponsor, not the users.
[22:05] <mezell1> mok0: it does not point to a bugzilla number, so I can't verify what and how it actually fixes
[22:06] <mok0> mezell1: but it does solve your problem?
[22:07] <mezell1> mok: i haven't pinpointed if it's that change, or one from 259
[22:07] <mok0> mezell1: can you do a diff on it?
[22:08] <mezell1> mok0: i don't see a place to download older versions from padl, but I guess I could grab the 259 source from debian
[22:08] <mok0> :-)
[22:08] <mok0> yes
[22:14] <mok0> mezell1: you also may want to subscribe ~ubuntu-directory to the bug when you're done with it
[22:16] <mezell1> mok0: thanks for your help
[22:21] <calc> anyone know how to split an argument in shell into multiple arguments or to variables?
[22:21] <calc> eg i have an arg "foo bar baz" and i want to be three separate bits
[22:33] <persia> calc: If you call `myscript foo bar baz`, you ought be able to access the variables inside myscript (assuming shell) as $1, $2, $3, etc.
[22:33] <calc> persia: i'm trying to work around a bug that causes the arguments to show up as a single argument
[22:34] <calc> persia: OOo calls external programs with the argument list space separated but not as individual arguments
[22:34] <calc> i need to cause them to become individual arguments for the program i need to run, so i was going to wrap it and split it somehow
[22:34]  * persia tries something else
[22:34] <calc> i'm pretty sure its easy to do and i think i used to know how to do it, but its been a long time since i did it, and never had a use for it since
[22:37] <calc> for msg in $@  will split it on space but then i need to somehow execute with all the split parts on one line
[22:37] <persia> calc: The wrapper script contains a shebang line, and a call to the real script with $1.  A generic wrapper script would have the single line "$0 $1", as long as you can guarantee that OOo never works properly.
[22:38] <calc> persia: oh thats all it needs?
[22:39] <persia> Well, basically.  As soon as you expand $1 in a shell-script context, it becomes three tokens if called to another shell.  If you want to do it within a single script, you have to parse it, and so assign variables directly, rather than using $1, $2, etc.
[22:39] <calc> persia: wow, thanks :)
[22:39] <calc> i was thinking too hard about the problem :)
[22:39] <persia> (and actually, you need something like $0-real $1)
[22:40] <calc> i think there is a way to do the split in a single shell script but that isn't needed for this
[22:42] <calc> thanks for the help :)
[22:47] <calc> persia: so a generic call that doesn't use $0 would be something like this?
[22:47] <calc> program=$1
[22:47] <calc> shift
[22:47] <calc> $program $@
[22:47] <calc> ?
[22:49] <persia> calc: Looks right.  Try calling `./foo bar\ baz\ quux` as a test.
[22:49] <persia> Actually, no.  shift will eat all your arguments.
[22:50] <calc> persia: it looked like it worked for me
[22:50] <calc> persia: but i don't know if it would work in all cases
[22:51] <calc> i did this though:
[22:51] <calc> ./foo1.sh "/usr/bin/launchpad-integration -P openoffice.org -i"
[22:52] <persia> calc: That ought to work.  Depends on your calling convention.  $program contains your entire quoted string.  I don't know what you ended up putting in $@
[22:52] <persia> Try again with some more arguments: you may well breate it.
[22:52] <persia> s/breate/break/
[22:55] <calc> persia: oh yea it does :(
[22:56] <persia> calc: Try just calling $($1), if the program name is part of $1
[22:57] <calc> i forgot i can't get to the individual args until its executed
[22:58] <calc> do i even need the $() wrapping it?
[22:58] <calc> #!/bin/sh ; $1 - seemed to work
[23:01] <persia> calc: Well then, that's even easier :)
[23:03] <Ng> mjg59: that's unfortunate, but thanks
[23:03] <james_w> calc: are you ever going to want to pass an argument with a space in to launchpad-integration?
[23:04] <calc> james_w: no
[23:04] <james_w> good, it seems like the API you have would never allow you to do that properly.
[23:04] <calc> it only gets called like: -P packagename -i,-b,-t
[23:04] <james_w> ok
[23:05] <calc> i filed a bug upstream about the issue and just work around it like this :\


[05:16] <Kilos> hi hashtagyoloswag  welcome to ubuntu-za
[05:16] <Kilos> morning all
[05:19] <Kilos> hmm...
[05:22] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: poing
[05:22] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[05:22] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  gaanit?
[05:23] <nuvolari> superfly: Dumbtribe it is. I see what you meant all along :P
[05:23] <nuvolari> dit gaan okei dankie oom!  I put a mithrill pickaxe in a chest now it is gone!
[06:13] <Kilos> eish
[06:13] <kbmonkey> disappeared right in front of my eyes! was it encahnted?
[06:14] <kbmonkey> enchanted
[06:14] <Kilos> the deep is getting well mined
[06:14] <kbmonkey> or maybe it was part of the mor blocks mod that has been obsoleted
[06:14] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:14] <kbmonkey> oh no, lag, there it is. phew
[06:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:15] <kbmonkey> hai ThatGraemeGuy
[06:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> the moreblocks mod was removed?
[06:15] <kbmonkey> ThatGraemeGuy, no. I just had lag. no don't fret :)
[06:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> moreores rather
[06:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah ok
[06:17] <kbmonkey> it is overcast and raining, it affects broadband
[06:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone know if a mithril pick lasts longer than diamond?
[06:17] <kbmonkey> Kilos, we need a banana-mesh network for fastest net
[06:17] <Kilos> we need something methinks
[06:18] <Kilos> sometimes the game loads quick and others you gotta stand and wait
[06:18] <kbmonkey> don't know ThatGraemeGuy, there is that forum post for the moreores that should say...
[06:18] <kbmonkey> let me find the link
[06:19] <kbmonkey> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=549
[06:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> it didn't specifically compare it to diamond. could find out from the code, just thought maybe someone knew
[06:20] <mazal> What's mithril ThatGraemeGuy ?
[06:20] <kbmonkey> oh ThatGraemeGuy I discovered using shift the "sneak" key to mine works a treat
[06:21] <kbmonkey> you can balance on any edge without falling off (until you release shift that is)
[06:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[06:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> never had that happen so far
[06:23] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  are you using the minetest package in the repos or another one, i cant build a tower straight up like you
[06:23] <Kilos> second block i see black
[06:23] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you jump on top of the tower and build from the top
[06:23] <kbmonkey> when u see black, jump
[06:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i told you, you must hold down spacebar so you're constantly jumping, then keep right-clicking straight down
[06:24] <Kilos> i see black everytime kbmonkey
[06:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i use the PPA
[06:24] <kbmonkey> Kilos, we have mine carts now!
[06:24] <kbmonkey> and circular saws. huh?
[06:24] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  link for the ppa please
[06:25] <Squirm> ,prmoging
[06:25] <Squirm> morning
[06:25] <Kilos> kbmonkey  my dwarf is stupid like me, also gets lost when in big mined areas
[06:25] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+ppa
[06:26] <Kilos> ty
[06:26] <kbmonkey> wouldn't the ppa be in the repos by default? since minetest is in the repos by default?
[06:26] <Kilos> will try that
[06:26] <kbmonkey> or would that be a different build?
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> a PPA is not in the repos, that's kinda the point of a PPA
[06:27] <kbmonkey> I run the dev build from github
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> Personal Package Archive
[06:27] <kbmonkey> ah thanks ThatGraemeGuy :)
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> people create them in order to maintain a package separate from the repos
[06:27] <kbmonkey> so the ppa would allow you to get the latest
[06:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> not the absolute latest, depends how well maintained it is
[06:28] <kbmonkey> and depends which ppa you add
[06:30] <kbmonkey> ah well I have to leave, work for the next 9 hours
[06:30] <kbmonkey> have fun every one!
[06:30]  * kbmonkey detaches
[06:30] <mazal> bye kbmonkey
[06:36] <Kilos> work hard laddy
[06:37] <Kilos> i took thec55 one ThatGraemeGuy  will try it out when cooking going smoothly ty
[06:50] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[06:50] <Kilos> hmm... the crafty now has a trash block, cool
[06:52] <Xethron> Hello Kilos!
[06:52] <Xethron> Linux Mint is out :D
[06:52] <Xethron> Wooooo!!!
[06:58]  * jabberwocky_ curses the 3G
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:15] <Kilos> haha spekko you reckon die_held
[07:15] <Kilos> n held sou 3g pryse reg maak
[07:17] <Kilos> hi Rynofear
[07:27] <Kilos> hi N8Wulf
[07:31] <Vince-0> o/ Kilos
[07:35] <Kilos> ooooo yay i hear a sheep in minetest
[07:35]  * Kilos goes hunting
[07:38] <nuvolari> lol
[07:40] <Kilos> eeeek found a rat as well
[07:40]  * Kilos digs hole for rat to fall in
[07:42] <Squirm> hey nuvolari
[07:48] <Kilos> aw cant catch the sheep you end up with 3 leg to roast
[07:49] <Kilos> what a low blow bo
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> we have new stuff? or are you playing single player?
[08:27] <Kilos> nope ThatGraemeGuy  there are sheep and rats but you cant take the sheep for breeding you can only collect for a braai
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> whoa
[08:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> my inventory screen looks all different
[08:33] <Kilos> yeah big change with trash in too
[08:34] <Kilos> i was gonna feed the sheep fat on wheat first then invite you guys for a braai on saterday night
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[08:52] <charl_> good morning
[08:52] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:52]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[09:07] <Vince-0> yaw dsl is kaark vandag
[09:22] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[09:22] <Maaz> charl_: Sure
[09:47] <armand> hi guys
[09:48] <Guest51158> do you guys know any Ruby guys in JHB, MIDRAND?
[09:50] <Guest51158> Anyone still talking?
[10:22] <tinuva> ruby =/
[10:28] <charl_> hi Guest51158
[10:28] <charl_> yes this channel is still allive
[10:28] <charl_> alive7*
[10:28] <charl_> *alive sorry i seem to be unable to use the keyboard today
[10:29] <Kilos> hi Guest51158
[10:29] <Kilos> you just gotta hang and wait for someone to see your request
[10:30] <Kilos> hi charl
[10:30] <charl_> hi Kilos
[10:33] <Kilos> hi Banlam
[10:34] <Banlam> good day
[10:41] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[10:52] <kbmonkey> hello
[11:01] <Kilos> too far down there now kbmonkey  -1253, gotta hand over to bart methinks
[11:07] <kbmonkey> wow
[11:07] <Kilos> takes a week to come up hehe
[11:08] <kbmonkey> have you tried making a mine cart kilos?
[11:08] <die_held> Anyone looking for a php dev job or know of someone??
[11:08] <kbmonkey> i see someone layed tracks in the desert
[11:08] <Kilos> nope kbmonkey
[11:09] <kbmonkey> sorry die_held I don't know any php devs
[11:09] <Kilos> can it climb laffers and find its way down there
[11:09] <kbmonkey> I know some php myself but have a job :/
[11:09] <Kilos> there was someone here that did php
[11:09] <kbmonkey> kilos I dont know I want to try
[11:09] <die_held> the pay is good
[11:11] <Kilos> someone here a few months ago said they enjoy working with php but i cant member who atm. maybe fly will member
[11:12] <kbmonkey> good as in 300k per annum good?
[11:13] <Vince-0> rooby
[11:13] <Vince-0> I know some php guys
[11:13] <Vince-0> 300k+ per annum
[11:14] <die_held> na, more like 240k, for like 3 years of experience, its not to bad i'd say, if you are well experience, 300k can be offered
[11:14] <kbmonkey> 240 is decent
[11:15] <die_held> thats good, Vince-0, let me know if you find someone interested, i'd appriciate that a lot
[11:15] <kbmonkey> php is becoming a rare breed especially that majority of the web runs off it
[11:16] <Vince-0> die_held, what are you looking for? link?
[11:16]  * jabberwocky_ chuckles
[11:16] <jabberwocky_> Vince-0: sommer look for 2
[11:16] <die_held> email, link, anything to get in touch with the person
[11:17] <die_held> me and jabberwocky_is looking for 2 php devs
[11:18] <Vince-0> ah, Jo'burg?
[11:18] <die_held> nah CT
[11:19] <Vince-0> ok
[11:20] <Vince-0> no man, I asked if you had a link
[11:24] <kbmonkey> Kilos, seen any sheep yet?
[11:24] <Kilos> ya kbmonkey  got fresh meet inna fridge
[11:24] <kbmonkey> lol
[11:24] <Kilos> we can braai sometime
[11:24] <Kilos> and lotsa rats all over
[11:24] <kbmonkey> I'll pick the mushrooms
[11:25] <Kilos> you found mushrooms?
[11:25] <kbmonkey> no just saying
[11:26]  * Kilos loves mushrooms
[11:27] <kbmonkey> the game is stuck on loading media :(
[11:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> patience young padawan
[11:29] <kbmonkey> oh not stuck just slow. weird as here at work I get 8.26MB/sec download speed test
[11:29] <kbmonkey> and 0.86 upload
[11:30] <kbmonkey> lol ThatGraemeGuy true that, but I will abort as my break is nearly over :]
[11:34] <Vince-0> bbl
[12:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[12:31] <Kilos> inetpro  dooi die bot man
[12:34]  * Kilos no likes bots lurking here
[12:45] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy your evening
[13:09] <magespawn> howdy Kilos
[13:09] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Vince-0 on freenode told me "Tell magespawn "Your number isn't 087727* is it?" 23 hours, 42 minutes and 19 seconds ago
[13:10] <magespawn> Maaz tell Vince-0 no, it is 084 299 *, where did you find that one? Somebody else also had that number.
[13:10] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell Vince-0 on freenode
[13:35] <magespawn> later all gotta go
[14:24] <superfly> hi Kilos
[14:24] <superfly> see you later - ADSL at home is working again (yay!)
[14:25] <Kilos> yay
[15:17] <kodez> greetings
[15:17] <Kilos> hi kodez
[15:18] <kodez> hi oom kilos, how are you?
[15:18] <Kilos> good ty kodez  and you?
[15:19] <kodez> i am better than yesterday, thanks for asking
[15:23] <Kilos> lol
[15:51] <Kilos> hmm... kbmonkey  i see there are brake rails and power rails in the ppa i have
[15:52] <Kilos> maybe thats for mine carts
[15:52] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[15:53] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[17:26] <Kilos> inetpro  ping
[17:27] <Kilos> plustwo  tune him man
[17:28]  * theblazehen has pulseaudio running NICELY over the netowkr :D
[17:28] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[17:29] <Kilos> and have you got vlc working properly yet?
[17:29] <theblazehen> nope
[17:29] <theblazehen> Just mplayer and mpd
[17:30] <theblazehen> But I even got equalizer to work
[17:30] <Kilos> ai!
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:30] <theblazehen> Won't be able to get VGL working soon :(
[17:33]  * theblazehen procrastinates too much
[17:36] <Kilos> go kill that lurking bot
[17:37] <theblazehen> which one
[17:37] <Kilos> hashtagyoloswag
[17:37] <theblazehen> why
[17:37] <Kilos> because i dont think its here for any good
[17:37] <Kilos> i asked this morning if someone here owns it
[17:38] <theblazehen> Just to learn, will take him out when I let him speak
[17:38] <theblazehen> Small channels good
[17:38] <Kilos> is it yours?
[17:38] <theblazehen> ya
[17:38] <Kilos> well say so then man
[17:38] <Kilos> then its fine
[17:38] <theblazehen> lol, I thought you guessed
[17:38] <Kilos> it can learn here
[17:39] <Kilos> i asked you i think
[17:39] <theblazehen> maybe. But I was at school
[17:39] <Kilos> that spate of those bad bots got me watching them
[17:39] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[17:40] <Kilos> well just notify us when you bringing a bot please
[17:40] <theblazehen> hi kbmonkey
[17:40] <theblazehen> sure thing
[18:02] <Kilos> ai! game struggling bad tonight
[18:05] <kbmonkey> hi
[18:15] <charl_> good evening kbmonkey, Kilos, theblazehen
[18:15] <theblazehen> hey charl_
[18:15] <charl_> how
[18:15] <charl_> how's it going
[18:15] <Kilos> hi charl_
[18:15] <Kilos> cold
[18:15] <theblazehen> hey, I didn't say ChanServ this time!
[18:15] <charl_> yeah it's winter there right now right
[18:16] <charl_> here it's hot nbow
[18:16] <charl_> *now
[18:16] <Kilos> winter here is for penguins and walrusses
[18:18] <charl_> winter here is for yeti
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[18:35] <charl_> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[18:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[01:51] <valorie> I'm about to leave soon, but noticed that my Oneiric upgrade on the netbook went great, except for Kmail
[01:52] <valorie> perhaps I don't know how to properly configure it, but it always crashes immediately before i can even start configuration
[01:52] <valorie> and --purge --reinstall didn't help at all
[01:53] <valorie> also still have the weird "no plasma on start" thing
[01:53] <valorie> has to be started in the cli every time
[02:02] <ScottK> valorie: We uploaded a bugfix release of akonadi today that fixes several crashers.  Maybe that will help somewhat for Kmail.  I would suggest though moving your ~/kds/share/apps/kmail aside, configuring from scratch, and then manually importing the mail.
[02:02] <ScottK> Upgrading Kmail -> Kmail2 has it's risks and there's not much at the distro level we can do about it.
[04:17] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: ping
[04:30] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffee
[04:30]  * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger.
[04:31] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: it is like 7:30 in finland
[04:32] <ScottK> From the enormous amount of photos I've been seing in G+, I was under the impression jussi wasn't in Finland ATM.
[04:32] <apachelogger> oh
[04:32] <apachelogger> might be
[04:33] <ScottK> He might be home by now too.
[04:33]  * apachelogger aint up to speed on the social things
[04:33] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: jussi just commented on my G+
[04:33] <apachelogger> kk :P
[04:33] <ScottK> Of course with the small child, there's no telling when he'll be awake.
[04:33] <apachelogger> you keep worrying about that and I meanwhile make QtQuick usable on maemo5 :P
[04:35] <ScottK> Someone should look at the kde4libs build logs and fix up the symbols files.
[04:35]  * apachelogger thinks bulldog98_ or bambee would be done for that sorta thing
[04:43]  * DarkwingDuck goes back to trying to sell his laptop
[04:50] <valorie> thanks for the hint, ScottK -- I never had mail set up on the netbook at all
[04:51] <valorie> I wanted to set kmail up to sync my gmail via dimap
[04:51] <valorie> but I'll def. try your advice and try again
[05:48] <apachelogger> oh noes
[05:48] <apachelogger> the amarok fails on the armz
[06:06]  * apachelogger is pulling some weird shit with qml again
[06:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's a ICE, so please file a bug against gcc 4.6
[06:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: I am about to fall asleep, so I'll put it on some todo
[06:40]  * apachelogger just wrote a maemo5 windowstack for qml :S
[08:24] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/I7njX.png
[08:24] <apachelogger> :D
[08:24] <apachelogger> rbelem: ^
[08:55] <bambee> morning
[09:29] <apachelogger> bambee: or is it night? :P
[09:29] <apachelogger> bambee: <ScottK> Someone should look at the kde4libs build logs and fix up the symbols files.
[09:29] <apachelogger> -*- apachelogger thinks bulldog98_ or bambee would be done for that sorta thing
[09:31] <bambee> apachelogger: looking
[09:34] <bambee> "or is it night? " <--- what ?
[09:35] <nikola> hi kubuntu devs i don't know is this the right place but i found few annoying bugs in oneiric so i'll post here the issues
[09:36] <nikola> 1) oxygen-gtk doesn't work in all gtk applications: http://www.dodaj.rs/?3p/XO/NioDUSf/snapshot1.jpg
[09:36] <nikola> 2) very annoying taskbar bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
[09:37] <nikola> 3) Clementine "seeking artifacts" /video/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPA_bC4mJl8
[09:37] <nikola> fix at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281804
[10:20] <shadeslayer> \o
[10:20] <shadeslayer> morning
[10:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: kdelibs has missing symbols?
[10:28] <bambee> it's for armel
[10:36] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[10:57] <shadeslayer> valorie: started any work for the doc camp?
[11:22] <yurchor> Hi! Can I discuss typos in Kubuntu 11.10 docs here? The patch can be found here: http://pastebin.com/v0AXnkBU
[11:26] <apachelogger> yurchor: I believe it would be best if you were to report a bug and attach your patch
[11:26] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: ^
[11:27] <yurchor> apachelogger: The docs are not valid now (entity &muonmenu; is not defined). That's why I'm asking.
[11:28] <apachelogger> yurchor: report bugs please, DarkwingDuck will surely address them asap... he does not seem to be around right now unfortunately
[11:29] <yurchor> apachelogger: OK, but later (just looking, not buying ;) ).
[11:30] <shadeslayer> heh :D
[11:31] <yurchor> And one more problem: bug reporting is not possible, because there is no 11.10 branch (LP reports so).
[11:32] <apachelogger> branch?
[11:32] <apachelogger> why do you need a branch to report a bug? :O
[11:32] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+filebug
[11:33] <bambee> does not make sense, the missing symbol is still there... (it's a template..)
[11:34] <yurchor> apachelogger: Oops. I have just clicked on "Bugs" on the project page and saw "oneiric must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers."
[11:43] <yurchor> apachelogger: Reported as bug 852519. Thanks for the advices.
[12:04] <debfx> fabo: in icecc, why do you set ICECREAM_ALLOW_REMOTE in the conf and default file?
[12:04] <debfx> fabo: in the init script you read $ICECC_ALLOW_REMOTE, that seems to be a typo
[12:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping
[12:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i haz a question about KConfigGroup::readEntry
[12:09] <apachelogger> do I haz ical parser yet?
[12:10] <shadeslayer> nope, will start on it after i finish this
[12:10] <shadeslayer> so, in order for me to start on the ical parser, you need to help me here :P
[12:10]  * apachelogger is a cute developer and aint got no idea about no KCG
[12:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/122527/ << that is not working for some reason
[12:12] <shadeslayer> presenceGroup is a KConfigGroup
[12:12] <shadeslayer> need to rename presenceIcon to something better tho :P
[12:12] <apachelogger> you know
[12:12] <apachelogger> you could work in brisbane with your silly code format
[12:13] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:15] <apachelogger> so yeah
[12:15] <apachelogger> I have no idea what not working looks like
[12:16] <shadeslayer> nvm, i think i found the solution
[12:16] <apachelogger> also I have no idea what overload you are using there, because you sold all your extra commas on ebay it seems and now cant efford to run the entire overload param list
[12:18] <shadeslayer> lol .. yeah, i forgot to pass a extra argument, didn't read the build error closely thinking that readEntry wants only one parame
[12:19] <shadeslayer> s/parame/parameter/
[12:19] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "lol .. yeah, i forgot to pass a extra argument, didn't read the build error closely thinking that readEntry wants only one parameter"
[12:19] <apachelogger> ah
[12:20] <apachelogger> build error it was
[12:20] <apachelogger> you are funny
[13:23] <fabo> debfx: thanks, fixing
[13:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude, you did not review my digikam packaging
[13:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where is that then?
[13:53] <apachelogger> I was supposed to?
[13:53] <apachelogger> news news all day news
 Alex Fiestas 1.2 * rv1.2-5-g7999934 bluedevil/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix mimetype, basically make dun/panu work again when launch from bluetooth://
[14:59] <afiestas_> apachelogger: that fixes the thing
[15:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I just say it go by in the build log.  Should be fixed.
[15:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ pull that one in and FFe approved.
[15:24] <ScottK> afiestas_: Thanks.
[15:25]  * apachelogger has not spelt in over a day, so that will have to wait
[15:25] <apachelogger> slept even
[15:25] <afiestas_> no hurry, I will release 1.2.1 this weekend fixing some more minor stuff
[15:25] <ScottK> OK.
[15:25] <ScottK> Let's get that then.
[15:26] <afiestas_> and testing everything again, because I'm extremely surprised that this bug slip away...
[15:26] <afiestas_> I did test it u.U
[15:26] <ScottK> afiestas_: We need it to go in tomorrow, so it really needs to be this weekend.
[15:26] <ScottK> That's why we test too ...
[15:26]  * apachelogger ordered a headset from the UK, bought with USD, shipping to Austria \\o/
[15:27] <apachelogger> actually it has the blue teeth
[15:27] <apachelogger> afiestas_: so that stuff of yours better be working
[15:27]  * apachelogger waves his fist threatening
[15:28] <ScottK> This is the Disney Mouse Princess fist, right?
[15:28] <ScottK> Not very threatening.
[15:28] <apachelogger> no, the grumpy havent slept in days fist
[15:28] <apachelogger> also I am on whisky
[15:28] <ScottK> But you've got that nice bridge waiting for you.
[15:29]  * apachelogger waves fist some more
[15:29] <apachelogger> screw that
[15:31] <afiestas_> ScottK: it will be today
[15:31]  * apachelogger fondles fregl and leaves for water
[15:31] <afiestas_> Will send it to kubuntu-devel once fully tested and tarballed
[15:32]  * apachelogger also does some more fist waving while leaving
[15:33] <apachelogger> bambee: bug 846709
[15:33] <apachelogger> without having read the description that is what you were looking into, no?
[15:34] <apachelogger> did you fix0r it?
[15:34] <apachelogger> or do I have to emit a wall of written thoughts on the issue again?
[15:40]  * shadeslayer gives some coffee to apachelogger
[15:40] <jussi> good evening DarkwingDuck
[15:41] <jussi> ScottK: small child is not here yet, due to arrive in January :)
[15:44] <Tm_T> jussi: watch out those kids, and small ones are worst
[15:44]  * Tm_T hides
[15:44] <bambee> apachelogger: I am busy right now
[15:45] <bambee> apachelogger: no, did not fixed yet
[16:08] <ScottK> jussi: Oh.  I lost track.  Then get sleep while you can.
[16:08] <ScottK> afiestas_: Great.
[17:09] <bulldog98_> apachelogger: yofel Quintasan_ shadeslayer: could you have a look to http://bulldog98-jonathansblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/kubuntu-and-kde-love-story-continued.html
[17:09]  * shadeslayer looks
[17:10] <shadeslayer> erm, yofel is already a kubuntu dev i believe :P
[17:12] <shadeslayer> apart from that, looks good
[17:17] <bulldog98_> shadeslayer: corrected that
[17:17]  * bulldog98_ now must syndicate his blog to planetubuntu
[17:18] <shadeslayer> have fun branching from bzr
[17:18] <nigelb> I need to clean up the planet config
[17:18] <nigelb> I keep wanting to do that but get lazy.
[17:18] <nigelb> There's so much junk in there.
[17:21]  * bulldog98 needs someone to post a nice 4.7.1 pic on imgur.com
[17:21] <bulldog98> since my config is to far away for standard
[17:22] <bulldog98> btw does someone know if fsfe.org fellowship blogs are supported by blogilo?
[17:23] <bulldog98> planet is a fat repro oO
[17:29] <apachelogger> bulldog98: s/preparde/prepared/g
[17:31] <bulldog98> apachelogger: where exactly?
[17:31] <apachelogger> Together they preparde 130 source packages for upload.
[17:32] <bulldog98> found thx
[17:32] <apachelogger> repro
[17:33] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ib,
[17:33] <bulldog98> z
[17:33] <bulldog98> s/ib/ into what?/
[17:33] <kubotu> bulldog98: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[17:33] <apachelogger> archive? repository?
[17:34] <apachelogger> FWIW using haxx0r lingo is bad
[17:34]  * bulldog98 fixed that
[17:34] <bulldog98> apachelogger: would you mind making a screeny and uploading it to imgur.com?
[17:34] <apachelogger> so you should be talking about 11.04 andnot natty, 11.10 and not oneiric etc.
[17:35] <apachelogger> bulldog98: of what?
[17:35] <bulldog98> 4.7.1 Desktop
[17:35] <apachelogger> my desktop is nokia branded for some odd reason
[17:35] <apachelogger> bambee: ^ plz give the man a screenshot
[17:35]  * apachelogger notes that screenshots of 4.7.0 == 4.7.1
[17:35] <apachelogger> and boring, unless nakkidness is involved
[17:36] <apachelogger> anywho
[17:36]  * apachelogger drops some pills and hopes to catch some sleep soonish
[17:36] <apachelogger> another day without sleep and I'll start singing broadway songs
[17:43] <ari-tczew> hello
[17:44]  * shadeslayer is bored
[17:44]  * shadeslayer starts writing that ical parser
[17:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[18:11] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I think apachelogger want’s to sleep
[18:12] <CIA-130> [lp:~planet-ubuntu/config/main] Jonathan Kolberg * 1423 * (heads/bulldog.jpg config.ini) Added my blog (with category)
[18:15] <ScottK> debfx: Can you upload Qt (with fabo's patches) so I can accept it?
[18:16] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: if you are bored you could do the screeny for my blogpost
[18:24] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: dude, just take it from the kde release page :P
[18:24] <shadeslayer> and i haz to write that ical parser by tomorrow
[18:24] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that’s an good idea :)
[18:35] <bambee> apachelogger: a screenshot of what ? o.O
[18:37] <bulldog98> bambee: no need anymore
[18:37] <bambee> ok
[18:54] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: string 30 of welcome section has doubled Kubuntu at the beginning
[19:25] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: the congrats for me is because I became an offical Kubuntu member :)
[19:25] <BarkingFish> nice! Well done!
[19:26] <BarkingFish> I'm laying off anything complicated for a day or two at the moment, I have concussion :)
[19:26] <BarkingFish> I won't be packaging anything for a coupla days, not after getting the trunk door of my mate's SUV right in the head.
[19:27] <BarkingFish> bulldog98, I hope one day I will achieve that status too :)  I will use the force, luke :P
[19:28] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: if you keep contributing it may happen :)
[19:49] <bambee> BarkingFish: may the force be with you :D
[19:50] <BarkingFish> Thanks!
[20:08] <valorie> yikes, BarkingFish -- did you see a doctor?
[20:09] <BarkingFish> yes
[20:09] <valorie> good
[20:09] <BarkingFish> I have 5 stitches in my head, the wound is also glued closed and dressed.
[20:09] <valorie> no messing about with brain injury
[20:09] <ejat> ouch
[20:09] <BarkingFish> No, exactly.
[20:11] <valorie> shadeslayer: I have ideas, but haven't seen the proposal, so don't know exactly what we are working on
[20:11] <valorie> nor where I should be spinning out my thoughts and ideas
[20:11] <Quintasan_> This is f!Q@##!%#@ sick
[20:12] <Quintasan_> ScottK: ping
[20:12] <shadeslayer> valorie: #gsoc-doc-camp-kde is now ours
[20:13] <shadeslayer> as for the proposal, one sec
[20:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: ssup
[20:13] <Quintasan_> shadeslayer: They just fixed my phone line
[20:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: didja get my email? :P
[20:13] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[20:14] <Quintasan_> And they first told me (on monday) that they will have it fixed within 76 hours
[20:14] <shadeslayer> valorie: check email etc
[20:14] <Quintasan_> Then they called me and told me that the line must be broken in my house
[20:14] <shadeslayer> heh
[20:14] <Quintasan_> Then some durps came and started drilling right in front of my house and they told my dad they were sent here to fix the breakage
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: want to work on a ical parser?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> in qt :P
[20:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: The one about PN poll? It did but I had no means to read that
[20:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Not really, I can't code yet + this is my senior year in hs, don't want any more assignments right now
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yep, fine, just add questions if you like, all i could come up with are those few questions
[20:19] <shadeslayer> ah alright
[20:19] <valorie> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/picture/2011/may/11/iceland-diving-eyewitness-pictures
[20:19] <valorie> mind blowing
[20:21] <Quintasan> Uhh
[20:21] <Quintasan> Wish I had monies to go there
[20:22]  * shadeslayer shakes fist at ical
[20:24] <valorie> I've never seen The Plates
[20:39] <ScottK> Quintasan: pong
[20:40] <Riddell> weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/122893/
[20:52] <valorie> Riddell: approve away!
[20:53]  * valorie gives permssion for all of Eurasia to download files freely
[21:00] <shadeslayer> wohoo only 2 fields to go
[21:00] <shadeslayer> as soon as i figure out what X-TYPE is
[21:02] <valorie> probably which of the X-MEN you are
[21:02] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[21:03] <bulldog98> Riddell: I think he wants permission to provide a download of Kubuntu
[21:03] <bulldog98> but that’s nonsense he does not need permission
[21:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://github.com/shadeslayer/libqcalparser
[21:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its a very rough implementation, probably very crappy in terms of speed and leaks memory everywhere, but i'll try and improve it tomorrow
[22:41] <shadeslayer> boo ya
[22:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yer ical parser is done
[22:41] <shadeslayer> "Server Summit"   "nd-sierra-f"
[22:44] <shadeslayer> heh
[22:44] <shadeslayer> the summary is truncated for some reason
[22:45] <shadeslayer> i guess my calculations are off a bit
[23:44] <BarkingFish> I'm off for the night valorie - I need some serious downtime.
[23:44] <valorie> sleep well and heal, BarkingFish
[23:45] <BarkingFish> heal, i will. Sleep? I doubt it.  I have an egg on my forehead the size of an egg, and a headache the size of a small transylvanian village.
[23:46] <BarkingFish> the same side I holed is the side I sleep on.
[23:46] <valorie> hmm, take some of that pain killer they surely gave you
[23:46] <valorie> sleep is necessary
[23:47] <BarkingFish> I have some, but it's one that makes you sleepy.  As a registered paramedic, even I know you don't administer opiate medication for 24 hours after concussion :)
[23:47] <BarkingFish> Natural sleep is the best way if you can get it.
[23:47] <valorie> I hear you
[23:48] <valorie> meditation maybe then
[23:48] <valorie> OMMMMMMMMMM
[23:48] <BarkingFish> that might actually work. I have some incense and tealights...
[23:48] <valorie> I find that almost as restful as actual sleep
[23:48] <BarkingFish> Relaxation and some Oliver Shanti if I can find my CD might just do the trick
[23:49] <BarkingFish> anyhow, I'm gonna go try to kip out.
[23:49] <valorie> niters
[23:49] <BarkingFish> See you tomorrow :)
[23:49] <BarkingFish> bbfn


 Forwarded from RikMills: pretty cool
 https://twitter.com/simonjbutcher/status/1499400942256463875
 I saw that lol


[08:10] <alourie> good morning
[08:36] <ara> morning alourie
[08:43] <alourie> hi ara
[08:43] <alourie> ara: what "other" issues with the site were you talking about? The ones I might take a look at?
[08:44] <alourie> oh, and btw: are there plans to update it to PHP5.3 and drupal 6/7 ?
[08:45] <ara> alourie, to your second question, no, no plans yet
[08:45] <ara> alourie, to your first question, let me check
[08:46] <ara> alourie, these are some on the pile:
[08:46] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/291089
[08:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 291089 in ubuntu-qa-website "[iso.qa] "Not complete" filter " [Wishlist,Triaged]
[08:46] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/507950
[08:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507950 in ubuntu-qa-website "iso tracker should indicate some how that tests are under way on the topmost screen (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Low,New]
[08:46] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/436450
[08:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 436450 in ubuntu-qa-website "iso.qa. needs a working admin interface (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[08:47] <ara> the third one is more complex, but the two before should be an easy way to start
[08:47] <alourie> ara: great, let me take a look
[08:48] <alourie> ara: btw, the update to php5.3 as I can see it off my head means updating ereg* functions to preg* functions.
[08:49] <alourie> which should be solvable by simple sed
[08:49] <alourie> or sort of
[11:03] <davmor2> morning all
[11:35] <ara> morning davmor2
[11:47] <alourie|work> ara: I installed the site on another computer. What would be the reason that I don't see filters on the site? Just a list of editions...
[11:48] <alourie|work> something isn't right...
[11:49] <ara> alourie|work, mmm, shouldn't change, any other difference between your two installations
[11:49] <ara> ?
[11:49] <alourie|work> ara: nope, at least I don't think so.
[11:50] <ara> alourie|work, can I see a screenshot?
[11:50] <alourie|work> sure
[11:52] <alourie> ara: http://img704.imageshack.us/i/qatracker.png/
[11:56] <ara> alourie, you have to update qawebsite_site to point to localhost
[11:56] <alourie|work> I believe I did, but hold on
[11:56] <ara> update qawebsite_site set subdomain = 'localhost' where id = 1;
[11:57] <alourie|work> yep
[12:00] <alourie|work> ara: I have an "aha!" moment :-)
[12:00] <ara> alourie|work, what happened?
[12:00] <alourie|work> it should be subdomain="<IP>", so if using locally - then "local", in my case - just an IP, as I access the site from another computer :-)
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[20:21] <cjohnston> stgraber: ping
[21:43] <waxx> hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me with some pointers on installing ubuntu on my laptop