 is there a place where to put feature request? I know Ubuntu is a big machine, but just asking anyway...
 Does Lubuntu inherits everyhing from Ubuntu or what degree of flexibility/independence does it have?
 My feature request is: create an option to locate the mouse cursor when the user press a given key (eg CTRL)
 it sounds super silly yet I can't find a simple way to do it without installing 3rd party (if any) apps
[04:03] <guiverc> @Rodrigo, you can file a bug (just mark it clearly as a FEATURE REQUEST), request on Lubuntu's discourse (again highlight its a feature request etc).  If it's a LXQt specific feature you want you may want to go upstream & file with LXQt  (note: we're still on 1.2 so one step behind upstream; debian are packaging 1.3 currently)
[04:05] <guiverc> fyi:  I can appreciate your request.. I have five screens & often lose my mouse-pointer; on iRC the #lubuntu-devel would be appropriate but good chance it'll get lost & you'll be requested to file via bug report or discourse...  I'm not sure where/how the 'feature' would be implemented though (I have oneko running on this box)
 thanks a lot @guiverc 😊
 oneko!!!! how cool!!!!👏🏽👏🏽😄
[04:29] <guiverc> it doesn't annoy me.. (not sure it helps much.. but i can move mouse & then just scan looking for the 'cat' moving on screens instead of having to keep moving the mouse & getting frustrated etc..)
[04:29] <lynorian[m]> Well Rodrigo there is the qeyes panel widget which looks towards where the mouse pointer is in a panel which if you have 23.04 would have that in there but with a lot of screens just provides a direction.
[04:31] <guiverc> :)  great suggestion lynorian[m] !  (disappointed I didn't think of that... I think I always chase 'my cat')
 haha I love oneko... no more problems for me😁
 already added to my autostart
[04:36] <guiverc> you can always use the qeyes panel widget as well... (at least it doesn't sleep over something you want to read!)
 😊
[04:38] <lynorian[m]> Also maybe try a different cursor theme to have one that is birght and stands out more I remember making my cursor purple and it didn't hide as much there is oxygen-cursor-theme-extra
 yes, I see your point. My problem is mainly when I'm editing documents, the cursor becomes invisible. And to thicken it I have to go to obscure configurations (ie, I am not 100% what I am doing) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <lynorianm> Also maybe try a different cursor theme to have one that is birght and stands out more I remember making my cursor purple and it didn't hide as much there is oxygen-cursor-theme-extra)


[10:25] <mDuff> I've asked here previously, but nobody was awake at the time -- how do folks in the Outside World get read access to my push archive hosted on launchpad?
[10:27] <carlos> mDuff, I think they are stored at: http://mirrors.sourcecontrol.net/
[10:27] <carlos> but I'm not sure
[10:29] <carlos> jblack, mDuff is asking for it
[10:29] <carlos> mDuff I've asked here previously, but nobody was awake at the time -- how do folks in the Outside World get read access to my push archive hosted on launchpad?
[10:29] <carlos> carlos mDuff, I think they are stored at: http://mirrors.sourcecontrol.net/
[10:29] <carlos> carlos but I'm not sure
[10:29] <jblack> Hiya.
[10:29] <jblack> what's the archive name?
[10:29] <jblack> (Yes, that is the right place)
[10:32] <mDuff> jblack, it's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:32] <jblack> lsmduff: Didn't know you worked here. :)
[10:33] <mDuff> (?)
[10:33] <jblack> (I didn't have a mental link between mduf and cduffy)
[10:33] <jblack> Never mind. :)
[10:34] <jblack> Hmm. looks like you followed the instructions...
[10:38] <jblack> mduff: You did the right thing, but its broken.
[11:02] <jblack> mduff: fixed.
[11:02] <jblack> I'm not sure its fixed for all new ones, but its fixed for yours
[11:06] <nDuff> jblack, cool, thanks.
[11:07] <nDuff> (hmm -- I pushed that in tla format so I'd be able to pull it from work, where baz won't build on the ancient machines; I notice that the mirror is back in baz format).
[11:40] <jblack> Then its a bug
[11:40] <jblack> However, you didn't push as tla. you pushed as baz
[11:41] <jblack> PRODUCTION jblack@vostok:/srv/supermirror/data/pushsftp/archives/cduffy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>$ cat .archive-version
[11:41] <jblack> Bazaar archive format 1 0
[11:41] <jblack> You can verify that yourself by sftping to it.
[11:52] <nDuff> okay, that's bizarre. My last archive-mirror was done with tla; I'd have expected it to choke pushing to a baz-format archive.
[11:53] <nDuff> ...and "tla --version" shows that is indeed Tom's tla... has he added support for baz-format archives?
[11:54] <nDuff> (if he has, I can probably use a new tla to access them from work -- it's the externalizing-the-dependencies bit that trips me up)
[11:58] <nDuff> oh, heh.


[02:58] <rob> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2006-May/000192.html
[02:58] <rob> Ubuntu-au Dcoumentation Project ^
[02:58] <rob> s/Dcoumentation/Documentation
[02:59] <rob> not sure if this is worth worrying about, but some of you might be interested (disclaimer: I have nothing to do with it)
[03:23] <robotgeek> we might also ask Kaiser about it!
[03:26] <rob> yeah I guess, is he part of the au loco team?
[03:28] <robotgeek> yeah, i'll ping him when i see him
[03:29] <robotgeek> if i see the screen anymore, i'll got blind :)
[03:29] <robotgeek> later all!
[03:29] <rob> bye robotgeek
[08:22] <vmadmin> helllo
[08:22] <vmadmin> I like to submit a doc to the wiki
[08:22] <Madpilot> hi vmadmin
[08:22] <vmadmin> Madpilot: hi
[08:24] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTeam
[08:24] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiGuide
[08:24] <Madpilot> vmadmin, have a look at those two URLs, for starters ^^^
[08:25] <vmadmin> Madpilot: i am going away for a week or so tomorrow evening so hope to get it up by then wil look at what you suggested
[08:25] <Madpilot> make sure you're not duplicating information that's already on the wiki when you're adding new stuff - aside from that, go nuts
[08:27] <vmadmin> perhaps because I have never sumitted a doc before they will not let me
[08:27] <vmadmin> the team
[08:27] <Madpilot> the wiki is open, currently
[08:28] <Madpilot> if you have an account there, you can create new pages if you want to
[08:28] <vmadmin> o ok well thats good
[08:28] <vmadmin> no i will create an account
[08:29] <Madpilot> top right corner of every page on wiki.ubuntu.com should have a "Log in/Create Account" link
[08:29] <vmadmin> Madpilot; many thanks
[08:30] <Madpilot> no problem - always good to see more people getting involved
[08:43] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, wireless trouble still?
[08:44] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: no, browser crashing due to totem plugin, which takes the entire machine down
[08:44] <Madpilot> ah, it's a Redmond-style bug! :P
[08:59] <mindspin> hi, anyone from the german translation team around?
[09:02] <Burgundavia> mindspin: you might want to try #ubuntu-de
[09:02] <mindspin> I'll try , but its mostly used for support
[02:56] <jjesse> did anything ever get resolved about the book being included in the release?
[02:57] <jjesse> morning jsgotangco
[02:57] <jsgotangco> jjesse: morning
[02:57] <jjesse> or its probally evening for you if i recall correctly
[02:57] <jsgotangco> i dunno..the thread just died
[02:57] <jsgotangco> yeah its almost 9pm
[02:57] <jjesse> you are in the phillipines correct?
[02:57] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:57] <jsgotangco> did you guys send anything in the post?
[02:58] <jsgotangco> i received a postal card about a parcel
[02:58] <jjesse> i didn't
[02:58] <jsgotangco> :D
[02:58] <jjesse> probablly just made it
[02:59] <jjesse> looking forward to recieving kubuntu 6.10 cds from shipit :)
[03:03] <jsgotangco> oh yeah
[03:04] <jsgotangco> are your chapter/s done already?
[03:33] <jjesse> jsgotangco: i have some small changes, change espresso to ubiquity and change livecd to desktop cd
[05:11] <jjesse> mdke: ping
[05:12] <mdke> jjesse: hi
[05:12] <jjesse> mdke: just forwarded a converstation that jane and i have been having regarding the book and dapper
[05:12] <mdke> right, I'm in the loop already, I think
[05:12] <jjesse> cool, i just wanted to update you
[05:13] <jjesse> in case you weren't
[05:13] <mdke> yeah, jane sent me that
[05:13] <jjesse> ok just trying to keep everyone in the loop :)
[05:14] <mdke> :)
[05:14] <mdke> my problem is just with putting it in the menu
[05:14] <mdke> I think mark is insisting on it
[05:14] <mdke> but i think the help system will lose coherence
[05:15] <mdke> and the absence of translation *really* bugs me
[05:15] <jsgotangco> just read that
[05:15] <jsgotangco> i still insist on having it on CD but not installed by default
[05:15] <jjesse> umm in aother email deb from prentince hall is "working on translations"
[05:15] <mdke> for dapper?
[05:15] <jjesse> for the ubuntu book
[05:16] <jsgotangco> for same reason that the installation guide is not installed by default either but availble on the CD
[05:16] <jsgotangco> or have ubiquity link to a PDF before it starts i dunno
[05:16] <jjesse> I know that Debra is already arranging
[05:16] <jjesse> translations
[05:16] <mdke> jsgotangco: they want to pimp up the book, which is understandable
[05:16] <jsgotangco> sure
[05:16] <mdke> but not at the cost of an overlapping help system :(
[05:17] <jsgotangco> that too
[05:17] <mdke> i'd be happy with it in example-content
[05:17] <jjesse> i think that is where jane is leaning as well, but was asked by sabdfl if a menu option could be created
[05:17] <mdke> yeah, that's right
[05:18] <mdke> i might mail sabdfl
[05:18] <jsgotangco> it'll muck up the help system
[05:18] <jjesse> mdke that woud be a great idea
[05:18] <jsgotangco> you'll get 4 entries
[05:19] <mdke> yeah, and there are more worthy candidates for extra entries
[05:19] <mdke> locoteams, irc, forums
[05:20] <jsgotangco> speaking of the menu, that help button sure is blurry
[05:20] <jsgotangco> System documentation rather
[05:21] <mdke> yeah, good point
[05:38] <jsgotangco> jjesse: so how does it feel to be in amazon :P
[06:17] <jsgotangco> ciao
[06:56] <glatzor> hi, does anybody know how I can use the gnome-doc-utils infrastructure without automake?
[07:50] <mdke> glatzor: you don't need automake to install gnome-doc-utils, afaik, only to compile it
[07:50] <glatzor> I would like to use it in gnome-app-install and update-manager. but we use a pyhon based setup.py script there.
[07:51] <mdke> glatzor: ah, I see. hang on
[07:52] <mdke> glatzor: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo
[07:52] <glatzor> furthermore i havent used xml2po for quite some years. perhaps I need to update my knowledge.
[07:52] <mdke> if that doesn't help, ask in #docs on irc.gnome.org or the gnome-doc-list
[07:52] <glatzor> thanks
[07:56] <glatzor> mdke: it's only about automake integration. but I can manage the files manually, too. I just wondered if there was also another infrastructure that could be easily used with setup.py.
[07:57] <mdke> glatzor: I don't know, you'll have to ask the gnome docs guys. specifically danilo can help, I suspect
[08:04] <glatzor> i will contact him. thanks.
[08:16] <LaserJock> arggg, I hate email
[08:16] <jjesse> why do you hate email ?
[08:18] <LaserJock> because I'm always worried about people taking what I'm saying the wrong way
[08:18] <LaserJock> and so I spend forever on these reallly wordy emails
[08:18] <LaserJock> and then nobody really cares
[08:19] <jjesse> me too, i usually save them in drafs and come back and work on them again
[08:19] <LaserJock> I'm working on a reply to your foward
[08:19] <jjesse> oh then i'll care about it :)
[08:19] <LaserJock> well, I really don't want it to come off as a flame or anything
[08:20] <jjesse> flame away i have fire protection :)
[08:20] <LaserJock> I'm not upset, I'm more worried for the doc team and how they are supposed to deal with the book
[08:30] <jjesse> mdke: +1
[09:35] <LaserJock> mdke: ping?
[09:43] <LaserJock> bombs away!
[09:51] <LaserJock> mdke: unping, I think :-)
[11:28] <claude> ping mdke
[11:30] <LaserJock> claude: he might be in bed now.
[11:30] <claude> k :-(
[11:30] <claude> I should too ;-)
[11:31] <claude> maybe another expert of xml2po here?
[11:31] <mdke> claude: hi
[11:31] <mdke> LaserJock: never!
[11:32] <LaserJock> hehe
[11:32] <claude> he he :)
[11:32] <mdke> thanks for the "another expert" thing
[11:32] <mdke> wholly inaccurate, but I like it
[11:32] <claude> mdke, i want to use xml2po with xhtml
[11:32] <claude> I read a post on a ML where you talked on this subject with the developer
[11:32] <mdke> I did? ok
[11:33] <claude> but i didn't find any xhtml module
[11:33] <mdke> I see the email
[11:33] <mdke> did you see danilo's reply?
[11:34] <claude> yes...
[11:34] <mdke> if you use -a, he says it will work
[11:34] <mdke> is it strict xhtml?
[11:34] <claude> nope
[11:35] <claude> Warning: cannot load module 'xhtml', using automatic detection (-a).
[11:35] <claude> modules are in /usr/share/xml2po
[11:35] <mdke> i think transitional xhtml is going to be problematic
[11:35] <claude> ls -> docbook.py empty.py gs.py
[11:35] <mdke> there is a specific tool for html->pot, but it only handles strict xhtml, iirc
[11:36] <claude> and what is it?
[11:36] <claude> for xml2po, i suppose i should write a module based on empty.py
[11:37] <claude> but maybe someone already wrote it :-P
[11:38] <mdke> I can't remember what the tool was called for html->pot, but I found it via google. I exchanged some mails with the maintainer about transitional, I remember he said it didn't work well.
[11:38] <mdke> claude: as for xml2po, best to ask danilo about it.
[11:38] <mdke> file a bug on xml2po and he'll get straight back to you
[11:39] <claude> k, thx


[20:40]  * jenkins reviews some screenshots
[20:42]  * MichealH blinks :P
[21:03] <jenkins> server cropping fixed
[22:29] <jenkins> night all


[15:09] <knkski[m]> Luke Marsden: i've created https://github.com/canonical/mlflow-operators and invited you to it
[15:10] <LukeMarsden[m]> thanks knkski! any idea why juju isn't working for me on minikube as of 2.9-rc7? screenshots above if you can see them..
[15:11] <knkski[m]> Luke Marsden: that looks like a juju rbac bug, maybe jam knows more
[15:11] <knkski[m]> you could try disabling rbac to see if that fixes it short-term
[21:39] <JohnMeinel[m]> <LukeMarsden[m] "Ian Booth <@U01GHQT0PQB> any ins"> If this is edge breaking you, you should be able to "snap install juju --channel=2.9/candidate" instead of the latest development tip, but we appreciate getting feedback so we know if we need to make improvements. Ideally in the form of a Launchpad bug, but I can run this across to the team this afternoon.
[21:45] <JohnMeinel[m]> <JohnMeinel[m] "If this is edge breaking you, yo"> We might also have a fix in the pipeline for this error, we're working on getting edge updated.