[12:43] <DJones> !irssi | asm32dev
[12:44] <asm32dev> thanks
[12:44] <Teleport> berga DSMIDIWiFi is not a command
[12:44] <FernandoBasso> Which I am using...
[12:44] <FernandoBasso> :D
[12:44] <berga> oh =P
[12:44] <asm32dev> Teleport, sudo ./DSMIDIWiFi
[12:44] <W4RH4WK> asm32dev: if you are unfamiliar with irssi i recommend having a look at weechat too
[12:44] <berga> or even sudo chmod 755 ./DSMIDIWiFi
[12:45] <Teleport> asm32dev sudo: ./DSMIDIWiFi: command not found
[12:45] <Teleport> c
[12:45] <Teleport> *typo c
[12:45] <asm32dev> hm.. weechat is beautiful
[12:45] <berga> Teleport, it looks like you're trying to use it as a command
[12:45] <Guest58740> you know weechat
[12:46] <Guest58740> where are you
[12:46] <asm32dev> i just looked at screenshots)
[12:46] <asm32dev> and it is beautiful
[12:46] <berga> Teleport, probably need to find that app's executable
[12:46] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know of some kind of proxy i could setup and run on my own server that would redirect vnc, rdp, ssh, etc ... something that i could use to securely get around firewalls on both ends ?
[12:46] <W4RH4WK> i guess asm32dev is in love
[12:47] <berga> sometimes they are in /usr/local/bin iirc
[12:47] <Guest58740> if some put me in blacklist ,how can i add  him again
[12:48] <berga> anyway I should stop talking since I am way too new at linux in any form
[12:48] <grym1> jgcampbell300, you can do many of those over ash. run it on port 80 or 443 if required.
[12:48] <asm32dev> now i downloaded and launched your dsmidiwifi
[12:49] <grym1> over ash, rather.
[12:49] <asm32dev> it works
[12:49] <asm32dev> you are doing something wrong
[12:49] <grym1> err. over ssh.
[12:49] <jgcampbell300> grym1, cool ... thanks for the info
[12:49] <jgcampbell300> !ash
[12:50] <jgcampbell300> hmm google search is rough with ash ... do you have a link handy
[12:51] <grym1> jgcampbell300, beware ash was a typo.I meant ssh. and do not use this advice to work against your work policies.
[12:51] <Guest58740> how can i make the number stay one place
[12:51] <asm32dev> guest, what do you mean?
[12:51] <jgcampbell300> ahh ok thanks
[12:53] <grym1> Berg's, 'where' or 'whereis', I don't remember, is useful.as is 'locate'.
[12:53] <grym1> berga ^
[12:54] <berga> which
[12:54] <berga> i used that which
[12:55] <Guest58740> terrible
[12:56] <berga> anyway, I was trying to answer teleport about his question but I think he left when he realised I had no idea what I was talking about
[12:56] <howlymowly> libboost1.49-dev
[12:56] <howlymowly> i got some errors during the upgrade which I tried to correct using "apt-fet -f install":  http://pastebin.com/sWF1dnnV
[12:56] <howlymowly> but I get some errors during the process as can be seen in the pastebin link....
[12:56] <howlymowly> any idea what to do?
[12:56] <berga> but thanks for those alternatives, I will write them down for future experimentation
[12:56] <howlymowly> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10
[13:01] <berga> grym1, I don't know if you saw but I thank you for those alternatives to 'which' - I keep forgetting to include the person's nick when I reply
[13:02] <sandertje> howlymowly: first try the following:  `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[13:03] <sandertje> howlymowly: this can take a while
[13:03] <howlymowly> kk.. i'll try
[13:03] <sandertje> howlymowly: then run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` again
[13:03] <jhutchins_wk> howlymowly: 1)comment out/move all ppa's from /etc/apt/sources.list /sources.d/  2) aptitude update 3) aptitude-autoremove 4)aptitude -f install 5) add other desired packages 6) restore ppa's & proceed.
[13:04] <jhutchins_wk> howlymowly: dist-upgrade is probably a good idea before you restore the ppas.
[13:04] <asm32dev> emerge-webrsync
[13:04] <asm32dev> sorry
[13:04] <asm32dev> wrong window
[13:08] <kiwi_> using gnome classic on 12.04 the items 'logout' and 'shutdown' are missing in the gnome menu, besides 'places' is a separate menu ... how can i make the menu include logout, shutdown and places?
[13:10] <xubuntu299> hello, how do I recover files from other user session with live cd ( I can't login from graphical user interface there)
[13:11] <kiwi_> ok i deleted the menu and relaunched it , everything is fine now
[13:11] <xubuntu299> I'm using web irc from xubuntu.org/irc/ sorry for nick
[13:11] <Teleport> Have a question about executing anyone?
[13:11] <Teleport> Have a question about executing, anyone?*
[13:11] <ObrienDave> much better LOL
[13:12] <cfhowlett> :0
[13:12] <jhutchins_wk> xubuntu299: What do you mean "recover files"?
[13:12] <xubuntu299> Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[13:13] <asm32dev> xubuntu299, cp them?)
[13:13] <xubuntu299> cp trough tty?
[13:14] <DJones> Teleport: Maybe give some more details so the channel has a better idea on the problem
[13:14] <asm32dev> yes
[13:14] <ObrienDave> "executing, anyone" will get you into less trouble than "executing anyone" LOL amazing how much difference a comma makes ;)
[13:14] <xubuntu299> asm32dev man, I have so many files
[13:14] <asm32dev> cp * ?)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, killall, kill -9
[13:14] <ObrienDave> LOL
[13:14] <asm32dev> so you can cp -R *
[13:19] <Teleport> DJones sudo chmod 755 DSMIDIWiFi ; ./DSMIDIWiFi
[13:19] <Teleport> bash: ./DSMIDIWiFi: Permission denied
[13:20] <lecoeus> Teleport: check the owner of the file
[13:21] <DJones> Teleport: What is DSMIDIWiFi ? What type of file is it
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> I can't login in other user, cause it takes me out to login screen
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> how do I get files from there
[13:21] <ubuntu_user> please, good suggestions could help
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ubuntu_user, su otherusername    then enter that password
[13:22] <ubuntu_user> Signature not found in user keyring
[13:23] <ubuntu_user> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> nautilus
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:24] <ubuntu_user> Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu —
[13:24] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus other user folder
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> No protocol specified
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> I can do cp username username 2
[13:28] <ubuntu_user> help me please
[13:29] <compdoc> just came in so not sure what youre trying to do, but have you tried: sudo nautilus &
[13:30] <ubuntu_user> nothing comes up
[13:30] <compdoc> oops
[13:30] <compdoc> gksu nautilus &
[13:30] <compdoc> forgot
[13:30] <ubuntu_user>  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[13:31] <compdoc> you using ssh?
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> I'm using other account
[13:31] <compdoc> that command needs a desktop
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> ............
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> I have desktop
[13:31] <ubuntu_user> why in first I can't login that other account
[13:32] <ubuntu_user> in graphical environment
[13:32] <m> o
[13:32] <ubuntu_user> I'm so frustrated this time, never knew something can happen for no reason
[13:33] <ubuntu_user> I can't even cp that directory
[13:33] <geirha> ubuntu_user: how did you create the other user?
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> it was default user all the time
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> with installation
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> the one I'm using right now, using account tools in ubuntu
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> I don
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> t have days to waste on this
[13:34] <radioiaaneg> hi all
[13:34] <geirha> you can't log in with the initially created user, but you can log in with a user you created afterwards?
[13:35] <ubuntu_user> thats what I wrote since I am here
[13:36] <geirha> ok, and you have encrypted home, so it sounds like the file used for decrypting the homedir might have been removed
[13:36] <Daekdroom> Whenever I try to download a RAR/Zip file with Firefox, File roller does - not - show up in "Open with...", which is quite a hassle when it's a small file I'm going to use quickly. Any ways to make it show up there?
[13:37] <geirha> If that's the case, I've no idea how to recover it, or if it's possible to recover it
[13:37] <ubuntu_user> geirha, why I can't login in first place
[13:37] <geirha> ubuntu_user: You've never logged in with that user?
[13:38] <ubuntu_user> I TOLD IT WAS FIRST USER CREATED ON INSTALLATION
[13:38] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Yes, I got that, but has it ever worked?
[13:38] <jgcampbell300> darn ... i was reading up on some kind of web based proxy / server for remote sessions before my computer crashed on me ... now i cant find it for anything ... i cant rember the terms i was searching anyone got any hints
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> I have plenty of files on it
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> ofcourse it worked
[13:39] <radioiaaneg> my notebook running ubuntu 13.04 cant seem to connect again to the ethernet network if awaken after suspend mode. the only way to reconnect seems to be restarting! Any help?
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> why would I want to get acc with no value
[13:39] <sventon> hi all, I want to be able to create applications using web technologies (js,html,css) without the need to have a window manager like Gnome installed. I have difficulties to understand the underlying technology. So far I been looking at  ChromiumOS, FirefoxOS, JoliOS, and Node-Webkit. I am not really able to understand the technical differences between this projects. Can somebody give me some hints ?
[13:39] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Is it possible you moved or deleted some important files last time you were logged in as that user?
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> sventon, go #chrome, and don't waste ubuntu helps time
[13:39] <ubuntu_user> no
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> last time, electricity ended for laptop, and that was it
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> it went sleep
[13:40] <Pici> sventon: maybe ##linux would be more appropriate for your question
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> afterwards, can't login
[13:40] <sventon> ubuntu_user: but I want to run this on top of ubuntu/debian
[13:41] <geirha> ubuntu_user: Hm. So maybe the encrypted filesystem got corrupted. I don't have any experience with ecryptfs though, so not sure how to fix it.
[13:41] <sventon> Pici: ok, will try there insted. Thanks
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> :<<<<
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> common
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> cmmon
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> I'm not going to waste all the files
[13:41] <ubuntu_user> damn it
[13:42] <sw> Hi   If installing from source and the app says  "Requires JAVA"    what package in  Ubuntu should  be installed?
[13:42] <sw> There's tons of JAVA packages ...
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> why I can't nautilus
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> but can cd
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> that user
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> whyyyyy
[13:43] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <Kalel> Greetings.
[13:43] <ubuntu_user> greetings
[13:44] <ubuntu_user> nobody really can't help
[13:44] <ubuntu_user> I'm stuck in this
[13:44] <Kalel> Later i had installed 3.11.6-031106-generic kernel, my wi-fi doesn't works anymore. How can I fix it?
[13:44] <Miencer> I simple can't boot :D
[13:44] <Miencer> simply :3
[13:44] <dawidekmichalek> nio
[13:44] <dawidekmichalek> hejos
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> mobilki mobilki halo
[13:45] <geirha> ubuntu_user: did you try ecryptfs-mount-private ?
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> dzień dobry skarbeńki kochane
[13:45] <ObrienDave> Kalel, go back to previous kernel
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> nie backuj
[13:45] <DJones> !pl | dawidekmichalek
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> HELP ME
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> w dupie mam wasz jezyk
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> ja jestem polakiem
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> HELP ME
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> damn it
[13:45] <dawidekmichalek> sie kurwa powies
[13:45]  * Touhou11 throws cold water over ubuntu_user
[13:45] <geirha> ubuntu_user: calm down
[13:46] <dawidekmichalek> daj mnie bana
[13:46] <compdoc> ubuntu_user, why not boot the computer with the live dvd and rescue your files, or wahtever youre trying to do
[13:46] <dawidekmichalek> pragne tego
[13:46] <ObrienDave> !cz | dawidekmichalek
[13:46] <ubuntu_user> compdoc I tried
[13:47] <Kalel> ObrienDave: I've got some good improves with this kernel. I wouldn't like to return using 3.0.33 kernel.. Is that a driver issue, like for example wi-fi driver?
[13:47] <compdoc> ubuntu_user, was it encrypted?
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> co ty chesz?
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> wlecom
[13:47] <geirha> ubuntu_user: change to the user first, then run ecryptfs-mount-private:    su - problem_user      then    ecryptfs-mount-private
[13:47] <ubuntu_user> YES
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> jak wlecom to luz
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> u mnie owcy juz zeszly z hal
[13:47] <ObrienDave> Kalel, could be. I couldn't tell you
[13:47] <DJones> dawidekmichalek: This channel is English language only
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> you too
[13:47] <dawidekmichalek> please go back home
[13:48] <dawidekmichalek> Mars to jest se ciastko
[13:48] <dawidekmichalek> fungibar ulotny
[13:48] <Pici> !pl | dawidekmichalek
[13:48] <ubuntu_user> I can't
[13:49] <geirha> can't what?
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> geirha that doesn't help
[13:49] <geirha> ubuntu_user: what happens?
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> I already gave everything
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount-private
[13:49] <ubuntu_user>  does nothing
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> after su user
[13:49] <ObrienDave> *bites tongue and nibbles fingers*
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus that user folder
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> WHY
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu —
[13:50] <M00sL0gB0t> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/coretasks.py", line 132, in track_modes)
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> cp userdir otheruserdir
[13:50] <ubuntu_user> doesn't work
[13:51] <geirha> ubuntu_user: "Could not parse arguments: Nevar atvērt ekrānu" what does "Nevar atvērt ekrānu" mean?
[13:51] <ubuntu_user> Can't open desktop
[13:51] <geirha> ubuntu_user: that was output when you ran ecryptfs-mount-private?
[13:52] <ubuntu_user> nothing
[13:52] <ubuntu_user> was output
[13:52] <geirha> ubuntu_user: that sounds good. Now run   cd ~; ls
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> ls
[13:53] <ubuntu_user>  gives all the dirs and files
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> from that user
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't just get to them
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> any other way
[13:53] <geirha> ubuntu_user: see if you can login graphically now..?
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't nautilus
[13:53] <ubuntu_user> I can't
[13:53] <Touhou11> ubuntu_user: Have you read the Wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory There are instructions on using a LiveCD to recover your files
[13:53] <geirha> you can't, or you can't be bother to try?
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> I have done it several times Touhou11
[13:54] <geirha> ubuntu_user: have you done it after running that ecryptfs-mount-private command?
[13:54] <geirha> logged in graphically
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> I need those files, I tried every trick
[13:54] <Touhou11> ubuntu_user: You tried sudo ecryptfs-recover-private?
[13:55] <ubuntu_user> INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[13:56] <Kalel> I want see my wi-fi card model. lsusb doesn't show it.
[13:57] <wet88> hi guys ...i have a question for you ... so...I have dual-OS ubuntu and win8 and... I saved a pdf in ubuntu on a hd that is available on win8 ...and when I entered in win8 the file was there for 1-2 seconds and then vanished (completely deleted) ...any idea why?
[13:58] <Kalel> Which command should I run and see wi-fi informations?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Kalel. iwconfig
[14:01] <Kalel> BluesKaj: no wireless extensions
[14:01] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Just happen with 3.11.6-031106-generic kernel. I should change it.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Kalel. changing kernels may make things worse
[14:03] <Kalel> BluesKaj: wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[14:03] <ubuntu_user> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421330/
[14:03] <ubuntu_user> this happened
[14:04] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Yes, I think so either.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:05] <ubuntu_user> I can't login as other user
[14:05] <ubuntu_user> help
[14:06] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Cannot find wlan0 device..
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Kalel. sudo iwconfig wlan0 up , sorry i should have suggested this command first
[14:08] <Kalel> BluesKaj: I think 3.11 IRC kernels still unsupported, the better choice is come back to newest available. Disappointing.
[14:09] <Kalel> BluesKaj: No such device, its unrecognizable.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Kalel. well , that's about all i can suggest :/
[14:11] <Kalel> BluesKaj: I appreciate your help. Thank you.
[14:12] <crunch-choco> hi there, can we do flash-like animation with ubuntu?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Kalel. going to upgrade to the 3.12 kernel?
[14:14] <yrolj> is it worth using dvorak?
[14:14] <Guest36372> #khonggiancongdong
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Kalel.  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[14:15] <guenhael> hi
[14:16] <guenhael> I have a problem when installing python-dev on ubuntu 12.04
[14:16] <yrolj> is it worth using dvorak?
[14:16] <ubuntu_user> I still can't login in my first created user dir
[14:16] <guenhael> it says : Package python-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:16] <Touhou11> crunch-choco: You want to make an animation in the Flash format? Not sure what you mean by Flash-like, it's a software platform rather than a style
[14:16] <guenhael> can anyone help me please?
[14:18] <gvo> guenhael: Did you try to apt-get install python-dev?
[14:19] <crunch-choco> Touhou11, not necessarily swf format, but some short light animations, for the web
[14:21] <Kalel> Actually I was thinking upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>, the newest available on ubuntu-base repositories.
[14:21] <gvo> guenhael: According to apt-cache policy python-dev, it's in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[14:23] <Kalel> BluesKaj, actually I was thinking upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>, the newest available on ubuntu-base repositories.
[14:23] <debasis> hello friends...i am trying to install Oracle in my ubuntu system...but its not installing....can any one help me?
[14:23] <Kalel> BluesKaj: Therefore i can have a look in the link.
[14:23] <jhutchins_wk> Kalel: If lspci doesn't show it, does it show an unidentified device?
[14:23] <guenhael> I'm not very good with all of that
[14:24] <guenhael> what should I do exactly?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk>                recommended way to set up your repositories.
[14:25] <debasis> anyone can help me?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk> guenhael: See above - you probably need to add a repo.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Kalel. that's not an upgrade , but if it's the newest for your ubuntu version then it's worth a try
[14:25] <Kalel> jhutchins_wk: Blueskaj: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[14:25] <eutheria> i install the oxygen gtk theme, i was wondering how i could remove the up arrow at the bottom of a scrollbar
[14:25] <debasis> i cant install Oracle in ubuntu
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> Kalel: bcm43's have worked for years but need firmware.  Thw work with 2.6 kernels.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> odd usually BCM drivers install by default
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> debasis: Actually, you can, but you need the instructions from Oracle, not Ubuntu.
[14:26] <debasis> HELLO....SOME ONE TELL ME HOW I CAN INSTALL ORACLE IN MY UBUNTU?...PLZ
[14:26] <guenhael> but how can I know which repo I need
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> debasis: Yelling won't help.
[14:26] <ubuntu_user> HELP Me please
[14:27] <Kalel> I'm searching for an relationated issue or a new firmware for my card.
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> CAN'T LOGIN In my other user
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> from login screen
[14:27] <asm32dev> lads, what app can i use to multiply my terminals except terminator?
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> lightdm
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> guenhael: Get the standard/recommended ones set up as shown in those links and see if that works.
[14:27] <Silass22> #
[14:27] <Pici> !patience | ubuntu_user
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> I am stuck here for more than day
[14:27] <ubuntu_user> for no reason
[14:28] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: Have you created the other user?
[14:28] <remoteCTRL> is there any alternative to indicator-date? i dont want evolution installed...
[14:28] <ubuntu_user> jhutchins_wk: WHAT
[14:28] <ubuntu_user> seriously
[14:28] <jhutchins_wk> asm32dev: What do youy mean multiply terminals?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: how did you create the other user?
[14:29] <femian> Hola como están. Alguien sabe como hacer funcionar una multifunción brother dcp-j140w en ubuntu 10.04?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> ubuntu_user: define: cannot login, do you see the username, can you choose it, do you get an error whil eloading the desktop, waht is the problem?
[14:29] <asm32dev> jhutchins_wk, this: http://iceimg.com/hBUSFn1N/snapshot5.png
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> !es | femian
[14:30] <BluesKaj> !es | femian
[14:30] <femian> ok
[14:30] <ubuntu_user>  su username
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Parole:
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Signature not found in user keyring
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[14:30] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> asm32dev: Possibly tmux.
[14:30] <ubuntu_user> I tried
[14:31] <ubuntu_user> I can't get my files
[14:31] <asm32dev> jhutchins_wk, thanks
[14:31] <femian> Hello how are. Anyone know how to run a multi-J140W brother dcp in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: again i ask, How did you create the user exactly?
[14:31] <asm32dev> so can i make fonts in gtk more readable? i'm using kubuntu 13.04
[14:31] <ubuntu_user> WITH UBUNTU
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> hitsujiTMO:
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> SERIOUSLY
[14:32] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> USING ACCOUNT MANAGER IN UBUNTU
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: there's 5 million ways you can create a user. how EXACTLY did you create the user?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> dang, too bad I have to get to sleep soon. ;))
[14:32] <ubuntu_user> hitsujiTMO: using ACCCOUNT MANAGER
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: can you paste the output of: cat /etc/passwd | grep <username>
[14:33] <ubuntu_user> PRESS on your name in Ubuntu right corner
[14:34] <ubuntu_user> then press user accounts
[14:34] <ubuntu_user> and from there
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: obviously replacing <username> with the actual username for the caccount you created
[14:34] <jhutchins_wk> It sounds like ubuntu_user is having problems with an encrypted filesystem, not with user logins.
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> ronalds:x:1000:1000:Ronalds,,,:/home/ronalds:/bin/bash
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> ronalds2:x:1004:1005:Ronalds2,,,:/home/ronalds2:/bin/bash
[14:35] <ubuntu_user> what does this gives you
[14:35] <paws> i accidently added some wrongs lines in the visudo (/etc/sudoers) and now i cant sudo with my main user...
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: and it's ronalds2 that you cannot log into?
[14:36] <paws> is there any way to login as root directly?
[14:36] <somethingrandom> hey folks, i imported some data from a hfs+ disk and now the folders are owned by root, how can i fix the permissions for them?
[14:36] <ubuntu_user> obviosly ronalds not 2 one
[14:36] <ObrienDave> no, it is NOT obvious. CHILL dude
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu_user: sorry last sentence does not make sense. can you clarify what account if those 2 that you cannot log into
[14:37] <remoteCTRL> !permissions > somethingrandom
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> that sentence^      of*
[14:39] <gvo> paws: Only if you put a password on root.  Ubuntu doesn't.
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> paws: you need to boot into recovery mode from the grub menu or boot a live cd and mount the filesystem to fix it.
[14:40] <somethingrandom> remoteCTRL, yeah, i read that already
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: so whats the actual question?
[14:41] <somethingrandom> not super clear for me, i should do "sudo chown user" and how do i do that for a dir and files in dir in that dir?
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> SomeDamnBody: sudo chown -R user:user /path/to/dir
[14:42] <gvo> somethingrandom: How did you "import" the files?
[14:42] <somethingrandom> ah, that's it?
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: for example chown -r somethingrandom:somethingrandom /path/to/file
[14:42] <gvo> remoteCTRL: I think its -R
[14:42] <nightdemon666> that must be a -R i tghink.. not -r
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> gvo: youre of course right, thanks
[14:43] <Miencer> thats something bad to mess up XD
[14:43] <somethingrandom> thanks remoteCTRL
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> somethingrandom: np :)
[14:43] <somethingrandom> and hitsujiTMO
[14:43] <somethingrandom> gvo, mounted the hfs+ partition on ubuntu
[14:44] <somethingrandom> easy peasy
[14:44] <nightdemon666> something random, you can also change the file permissions with chmod...
[14:44] <gvo> Be careful.  You might not be able to use it again on a MAC if you dink with the structure on Ubuntu
[14:45] <somethingrandom> nightdemon666, i think it's just the user
[14:45] <somethingrandom> thanks
[14:45] <Silass22> #
[14:45] <somethingrandom> gvo, no worries, i copied the data from my macbooks ssd to the ubuntu laptop
[14:46] <gvo> OK
[14:47] <Chillax86> Hi everyone, I would like to know if any knows when the problem with grubs "os_prober" will be fixed for those that don't know, Ubuntu 12.04 set-up will install correctly with UEFI Secure Boot with GPT Partitioning but GRUB's menu is not able to load windows 8 without running boot-repair which stops shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[14:47] <somethingrandom> a bit annoying having to decrypt the disk, will have to do that too for when i transfer my movies from my hfs+ encrypted disk to my ext4 encrypted
[14:47] <bcurtiswx> i remove all my online accounts but I keep geting this Authenitcation Request popup on login
[14:47] <bcurtiswx> how do I get rid of that?
[14:47] <somethingrandom> but there are always ways :)
[14:49] <Chillax86> Hi everyone, I would like to know if any knows when the problem with grubs "os_prober" will be fixed for those that don't know, Ubuntu 12.04 set-up will install correctly with UEFI Secure Boot with GPT Partitioning but GRUB's menu is not able to load windows 8 without running boot-repair which stops shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[14:50] <somethingrandom> yay, dropbox, wuala and spideroak are syncing again
[14:51] <xubuntu906> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421554/ help me, here is ubuntu_user from live cd
[14:52] <xubuntu906> I couldn't recover files
[14:55] <xubuntu906> HELP, can't login as other user, CAN'T RECOVER files from live cd
[14:56] <Pici> 70
[14:56] <xubuntu906> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:56] <xubuntu906> doesn't work
[14:56] <xubuntu906> HELP
[14:56] <xubuntu906> pleassse
[14:56] <FloodBot1> xubuntu906: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57]  * LinuxGold forgot what file he need to edit to enable xubuntu from console
[14:57] <xubuntu906> ................
[14:58] <Pici> xubuntu906: please stop.  If someone knows how to help you, they will help.
[14:58] <ObrienDave> heeeeeee's baaaaaaaack ;)
[14:58] <gvo> I think it's ubuntu_user under a different name.
[14:58] <Pici> It is.
[14:58] <ObrienDave> ya think? ;))
[14:58] <Pici> They stated that.  No need to make comments on it.
[14:59] <xubuntu906> I AM UBUNTU_USER under different name
[14:59] <xubuntu906> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6421554/
[14:59] <Pici> !patience | xubuntu906
[14:59] <xubuntu906> read pls
[15:00] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Some good info there: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[15:00] <CatKiller> And also here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36573/trying-to-mount-old-encrypted-home/36783#36783
[15:02] <MrMonkey31> like I'm pretty new to permissions & commandline... how can I view what "groups" exist on my system?
[15:03] <CatKiller> cat /etc/groups
[15:03] <CatKiller> sorry cat /etc/group
[15:03] <MrMonkey31> Catkiller: thanks!
[15:03] <CatKiller> np
[15:04] <MrMonkey31> so most stuff of this sort there'll be a file for in etc/ ?
[15:04] <xubuntu906> this didn't help http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[15:04] <h0m1x> How to start reading codes?
[15:04] <cynicist> MrMonkey31: you can also just type in 'groups' to see the groups for your current user
[15:04] <h0m1x> I mean, how to start reading codes of big projects? where to start from? how should we know where the coder started from to code a project? we don't have the plan of the project to see where to start from so what should we do?
[15:04] <xubuntu906> thanks ubuntu for ruining half year
[15:05] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: If you have the key to decrypt you'll probably find a way
[15:05] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Only it won't be that easy
[15:06] <MrMonkey31> cynicist: nice. good to have these hints when it's morning time & I'm bugging out
[15:06] <mustmodify> confused... I added a user to a group using usermod -a -G production sftp but now I want to undo that.... someone is telling me to use deluser but that seems like the path to chaos. Any other way?
[15:06] <h0m1x> Thanks for your complete guidance channel!
[15:06] <CatKiller> If you're in a rush maybe you could request paid support
[15:06] <CatKiller> http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[15:06] <CatKiller> xubuntu906: Seems to me (since you had not even found the links I sent by yourself) that you have been looking for a solution for a few minutes only
[15:06] <cynicist> MrMonkey31: lol, sure thing
[15:07] <CatKiller> expecting the answer right away
[15:07] <cannonball> Hi!  I'm trying to add an apt repository.  I'm a little unsure how URL's map to PPA's.  The repository I'm trying to add is given as 'https://launchpad.net/~unit3/+archive/bfgminer'.  I think I need to convert that to a 'ppa:blah/blah' but I'm not sure how to do that.  apt-add-repository does not accept that raw URL.  Suggestions?  URL's that explain that are also welcome!
[15:07] <CatKiller> otherwise deciding that you lost an entire year worth of data
[15:07] <xubuntu906> I'am already trying to get my files for a day
[15:07] <xubuntu906> tnx ubuntu for stopping me on login
[15:07] <xubuntu906> I did nothing
[15:07] <CatKiller> And you didn't check google? :p
[15:07] <xubuntu906> CatKIller I checked your mother
[15:07] <Pici> CatKiller: iirc, there are no more user contracts for Ubuntu support from Canonical.   I found it.  That URL has the info I needed *in* it, it's not the repository itself.  Sorry for the dumb question.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> cannonball. choose the section , techical details about this ppa , then choose your OS version in the "Display sources.list entries for" , then copy and paste the debs to your :/etc/apt/sources.list  , then update and upgrade
[15:11] <Chillax86_> Does anyone know when the problem with Ubuntu's GRUB for Windows 8 UEFI GPT will be fixed
[15:12] <Chillax86_> It does not load windows without needing boot-repair to be run
[15:12] <MrMonkey31> later, taters!
[15:12] <cannonball> BluesKaj: Thanks, but it's not an upgrade.  It's a specific repo for a package I'm trying to install on a bitcoin miner.  It appears that it doesn't support the older version of Ubuntu I'm running (Maverick).  Will just build another I suppose.
[15:12]  * MrMonkey31 le waves
[15:12] <Chillax86_> The problem seems to be cuased by the os_prober function
[15:12] <cynicist> mustmodify: there are two ways of doing it, you can use 'usermod -G group1, group 2, group3 username' and simply make sure to include every group except the one you want to remove, or you can use 'deluser user group' (deluser doesn't delete group or user if you are using both options), another way is 'gpasswd -d user group'
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Chillax86_. once you riun boot-repair make sure you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[15:13] <mustmodify> cynicist: ok. Seems like there should be a usermod -r if there is a usermod -a. But whatever. Organic growth is messy.
[15:13] <mustmodify> cynicist: thanks
[15:14] <Chillax86_> yeah done that but boot-repair stop shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[15:14] <cynicist> mustmodify: that is what deluser is for, it is just scary because if used improperly you can actually delete your user or group entirely. I do agree with you though, it makes things unnecessarily complicated.
[15:15] <Chillax86_> so was wondering if anyone knew when Ubuntu/GRUB was going to fix the install without needing to run boot-repair and keep secure boot switchede on
[15:15] <asm32dev> hi lads
[15:15] <asm32dev> how to build weechat?)
[15:16] <Chillax86_> BluesKaj yeah done that but boot-repair stop shimx64.efi (secure boot) from working
[15:16] <cynicist> I just just realized I haven't used windows in so long that I can't answer questions related to getting ubuntu to work with it anymore :(
[15:16] <Chillax86_> BluesKaj so was wondering if anyone knew when Ubuntu/GRUB was going to fix the install without needing to run boot-repair and keep secure boot switchede on
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Chillax86_. sorry i don't much about that . whether secure boot is necessary or not
[15:17] <BluesKaj> know
[15:20] <Chillax86_> Secure boot is not necessary but when you need to install Ubuntu on 12 machines of which the person would like secure boot to stay enabled it becomes a problem lol
[15:20] <jhutchins_wk> Chillax86_: The whole point of secureboot is to prevent you  from loading something like Ubuntu, so I don't think there's any scheduled plan for Ubuntu to fix it.  It's not something Ubuntu does.
[15:24] <Chillax86_> jhutchins_wk I'm affraid you are wrong secure boot just means that all boot binaries must be signed by a CA included in the UEFI signature database of which most hardware vendors have only included Microsoft's Key so that is why the linux foundation and most linux distros have paid $99 to microsoft to get there binaries signed.
[15:25] <resure> How can I change tabs color of the inactive terminal window? http://imgur.com/uKisvVp,6JlrCDq
[15:26] <sivel__> im using ubu 12.10 with xen 4.1 and pci passthrough to windows 7 flawlessly, but on my ubu desktop, after about 10 minutes of being on it gets extremely sluggish as far as the mouse is concerned. memory is well within limits. on the windows side, works great. any ideas as to the sliggishness ?
[15:28] <ghostmediapro> ubuntu 12.04, is there anyway to forward the whole desktop session over ssh/x11 vers just a single application such as firefox
[15:28] <impradeepy> please tell me hardware diagnostic tools for ubuntu
[15:28] <impradeepy> like for fan errors
[15:31] <gvo> ghostmediapro: You can use one of the vnc programs.
[15:31] <gvo> tightvnc or nomachine are good choices.
[15:33] <ubuntu_user> help me, I'm exausted
[15:33] <machinarius> Hey guys, i am running Saucy on a Lenovo S400u that is connected to a Samsung smart tv via HDMI and i am seeing the picture partially cut around the edges - I only see an inner rectangle of the whole screen. Is there any advice you can give me to solve this problem?
[15:33] <ubuntu_user> I can't login my old user
[15:33] <machinarius> I tried getting the 01.org drivers but they work up to Raring only
[15:34] <machinarius> Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:34] <joelteon> when I execute "start mysql", there's no output and a 0 exit code, and mysql doesn't start
[15:34] <joelteon> why is this happening
[15:34] <machinarius> joelteon, i think you should run sudo service mysql start
[15:35] <joelteon> no output from tha teither
[15:35] <joelteon> that* either
[15:35] <machinarius> weird
[15:35] <joelteon> start/stop/status are upstart, aren't they?
[15:35] <joelteon> that's what the init script recommends
[15:35] <ubuntu_user> please help me, I can't even sudo nautilus /var/www and save those files
[15:36] <machinarius> Yes, but i *think* upstart got nuked in favour of a different solution
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> how on earth I suddenly lost possibility to login my ubuntu user, without messing with anything
[15:36] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, have you tried using command line tools instead of nautilues? as in cp, mv, rm....
[15:36] <joelteon> I can't get upstart or service or anything to produce output at all
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> machinarius
[15:36] <machinarius> cat, nano...
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> I can't get my files from tty
[15:36] <ubuntu_user> also
[15:37] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, describe your situation please
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> I can't access my files on other admin user
[15:38] <joelteon> oh wait, you know what? it's 100% my fault
[15:38] <joelteon> this script symlinks /sbin/initctl to /bin/true
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount doesn't works
[15:38] <joelteon> wow, i look like an idiot now
[15:38] <joelteon> ok thanks everyone
[15:38] <ubuntu_user> I'm here almost a day
[15:39] <i_> good evening
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> I can't launch nautilus from other user
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> when I do su
[15:39] <ubuntu_user> please help
[15:40] <ubuntu_user> I tried live CD and I couldn't get my files
[15:41] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, well... do you really need to mess with another account's files?
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> WHAT?
[15:41] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: It would help to be more descriptive. Why does trying to copy your files not work?
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> I cannot even access them
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> from tty
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 1
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 2
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 3
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> 4
[15:41] <ubuntu_user> and 5
[15:41] <jhutchins_wk> cynicist: He's been at this for a while.  He has an encrypted filesystem and there's something wrong with auth.
[15:42] <cynicist> jhutchins_wk: ah
[15:42] <ubuntu_user> ubuntu license ended
[15:42] <ubuntu_user> righht
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I really need my files
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> when I do sudo nautilus /var/www
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I can't copy them
[15:43] <machinarius> ubuntu_user, Im pretty sure that as long as you don't have the proper password you can't access an encrypted FS
[15:43] <ubuntu_user> I am screewd
[15:44] <machinarius> Even if you are root
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> I can really change password
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> CAUSE I HAVE ADMIN USER
[15:44] <ubuntu_user> that doesn't matter cause I can't get to my files
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> The other problem is that we don't have a support channel for latvie.u valoda.
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> I write english so try
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> reading it
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> Exactly.
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> what
[15:45] <ubuntu_user> exactly?
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> my system screwed
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> me
[15:46] <ubuntu_user> thanks ubuntu
[15:46] <josh__> Hello, can anybody answer I question I have regarding BIND on ubuntu?
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> never tought I will not be able for no f// reason to login or recover files trought live cd
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> or even get var/www files from non user folder
[15:47] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: Relax, the reason you can't recover the files is because you encrypted that directory
[15:47] <ubuntu_user> I can't I lost VALUE
[15:48] <ubuntu_user> I shouldn't have been here in first place
[15:48] <josh__> If I have manually installed BIND on ubuntu do I use named.conf.local or named.conf?
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> TRY MESSING WITH THIS
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> !caps | ubuntu_user
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ecryptfs-mount-private  >>>>>>
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[15:49] <ubuntu_user> but nobody knows why this on earth just happens
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> thanks ubuntu
[15:50] <LinuxGold> no
[15:50] <LinuxGold> it's you.
[15:50] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: dude seriously, nobody is going to want to help you if you spam, so stop doing it
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> what on earth I did
[15:50] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: It doesn't just happen.  YOU did it, not Ubuntu.  We are just fellow users here, and you have barely given us any concrete information, you're just complaining that it's all Ubuntu's fault.  It isn't Ubuntu, it's you.
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD>   /join #openobject
[15:50] <ubuntu_user> NOBODY helps me for day already
[15:51] <ubuntu_user> WHAT I DID?
[15:51] <lduros> hi I start a python script in the background from ~/.profile. Is there any way I can bring it to the front?
[15:51] <LinuxGold> ubuntu_user:  you need to learn how to run linux before you run ubuntu.
[15:51] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[15:51] <lduros> doing fg won't work obviously
[15:51] <k1l_> ubuntu_user: please take some time to calm down. then state all the informations and describe what your problem is. dont use enter that often.
[15:51] <cynicist> ubuntu_user: read that
[15:51] <jhutchins_wk> ubuntu_user: You are not communicating your problem, you're just complaining.   I have the page up already
[15:53] <redeemed> I was trying to "mount" my galaxy s3 in 12.04 but with no luck.. any suggestions? :D
[15:53] <gvo> redeemed: Why?
[15:53] <somsip> lduros: I'd just be telling you whats on the page then. It might do something to help you, but it depends if you want a peristent change to how this script runs, or a one-off ifx
[15:53] <redeemed> gvo: why what?
[15:53] <lduros> somsip: ok fine
[15:53] <somsip> *fix
[15:53] <lduros> somsip: thanks
[15:53] <gvo> redeemed: why mount it?
[15:54] <redeemed> gvo: well not really mount it.. mtp-connect gave me some errors
[15:54] <cynicist> redeemed: you most likely need a new version of libmtp, I had similar issues with my nexus 4 that no longer exist on 13.10
[15:55] <gvo> redeemed: That's why I asked why.  If you want to use it as a modem?  do you want to see files? Etc.
[15:55] <DJones> redeemed: The version of Android on S3 changed its method of transferring data and physical cable connection weren't very easy up to 12.10, on 13.04, the Ubuntu drivers were updated & seems to work flawlessly since then, when I was 12.04/12.10, I ended up using the Android app Airdroid to connect wirelessly rather than by cable, you could look into gMTP on Ubuntu but I never had any luck with it
[15:55] <redeemed> gvo: just to see my files..
[15:56] <cynicist> redeemed: check this out, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[15:56] <sarthor> Hi, Is there any screen recorder equivalent to camtasia in Linux, I already tried, gtk-rdesktop and kazam, and the both are failing in several point like, if the session is going more than 2 hrs, So these application exit, also when I used to play huge files recorded by kazam or rdesktop, So Audio and Video are not on the same place, Audio goes forward, while videos stays back. HELP if there is some screen recoder better than these two.
[15:56] <gvo> if you want to stick to 12.04 use airdroid like DJones
[15:56] <redeemed> DJones: thanks.. didn't know that
[15:56] <sarthor> gtk_recoder*
[15:56] <gvo> redeemed: I also gave up on mtp
[15:57] <strit> sarthor, I use SimpleScreenRecorder. Haven't had any problems with it yet.
[15:57] <LinuxGold> anyone familiar with running xubuntu-desktop in virtualbox?
[15:57] <LinuxGold> I'm using iMac late 2012 machine
[15:57] <redeemed> cynicist: thanks.. will look into it
[15:57] <Eagleman> How can i put the following in an variable? accounts="/media/harddisks/data/users/user/Accounts & Passwords/"
[15:58] <cynicist> DJones: yeah it is libmtp specifically that needs to be updated, on 13.10 I have no issues with android devices and mtp anymore
[15:58] <DJones> cynicist: Same here, I didn't know which library it was that needed updating, but it was fixed from 13.04
[15:59] <Eagleman> How can i put the following in to a variable? accounts="/media/harddisks/data/users/user/Accounts & Passwords/"
[16:01] <kisaro> Regarding mtp, i just tried to set it up on my own and it seems to be working by just installing mtpfs. After that i could access my device via thunar
[16:01] <kiwi_> after installing 12.04 with gnome classic  there are no desktop icons, though there are files in ~/Desktop ... also, mouse right button click does not pop up the desktop context menu ..... anu idea?
[16:01] <machinarius> Guys anyone here has xrandr knowledge? I want to shrink the viewport of my HDMI-connected tv to solve a letteboxing problem
[16:02] <cynicist> kisaro: yeah the problem is that device support depends on what version you are running, and he is on an older version of ubuntu with an outdated library
[16:02] <jmgk> impradeepy: hey
[16:05] <kisaro> cynicist: oh you're right, I missed the line about it being fixed on 13.04 onwards (which were the version I did this on)
[16:05] <zykotick9> machinarius: you might want to try arandr, a gui frontend for xrandr
[16:05] <jmgk> impradeepy:
[16:06] <machinarius> zykotick9, thanks man
[16:08] <kisaro> has xrandr, or arandr in this case a way to autodetect when I connect anything via HDMI/VGA ?
[16:09] <machinarius> Hey, an option i had yet to see in TV fixed it
[16:09] <machinarius> Thanks guys
[16:09] <machinarius> kisaro, It will. If not just restart it
[16:10] <machinarius> kisaro, in fact xrandr will list all the available screens if ran with no args
[16:11] <kisaro> ah I should elaborate, I'm trying a slightly different setup right now, using openbox instead of unity.
[16:11] <cynicist> kiwi_: I would try running dconf-editor and checking org > gnome > desktop > background to see if draw-background is checked.
[16:12] <kiwi_> thank you
[16:12] <cynicist> kiwi_: that worked?
[16:13] <kiwi_> not yet, one moment ...
[16:14] <kiwi_> have to install dconf-tools first
[16:14] <cynicist> kiwi_: also install ubuntu-settings if it isnt installed
[16:15] <kiwi_> draw-background was already checked
[16:15] <kiwi_> there must be another reason
[16:15] <kiwi_> ok
[16:15] <pulsar78> need help installing wlan driver
[16:16] <cynicist> kiwi_: click on show desktop icons or set a background through dconf-editor as well, I think if ubuntu-settings is installed one of those options should convince nautilus to start drawing the desktop background again
[16:16] <kiwi_> cant find ubuntu-settings in synaptic
[16:17] <cynicist> kiwi_: try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-settings' from a terminal
[16:18] <jsc__> Hi. Does anyone know what might cause the device driver for one's Ethernet to not load?
[16:18] <ghostmediapro> gvo: vnc4server is not giving me access to what i want, it want work correctly i've tried many differnt confi
[16:18] <cynicist> kiwi_: and try checking the key 'show desktop icon' from dconf-editor
[16:19] <cynicist> pulsar78: do you know which driver you need?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> jsc__. run , dhclient eth0
[16:19] <kiwi_> cynicist, i just marked 'show desktop icons' as you said.  everything is fine now .... thank you
[16:19] <cynicist> kiwi_: excellent, yw :)
[16:19] <kiwi_> :-)
[16:19] <jsc__> One sec, blueskaj, will do
[16:21] <cynicist> jsc__: mind using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to link the output of the command 'lspci'?
[16:21] <jsc__> BluesKaj> Nevermind apparently. Rebooting the 16th time is apparently what it took to solve that problem.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> jsc__. rememeber this command too , it will come in handy , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:22] <jsc__> and cyncist, the problem was that the ethernet didn
[16:22] <jsc__> register in the lspci output
[16:23] <cynicist> jsc__: that's bizarre, not sure how your system would even know what to do if it couldn't detect an ethernet controller at all
[16:24] <jsc__> BluesKaj, I'll note that. Would it solve problems where a certain interface doesn't register in ifconfig, for instance?
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: glad it is fixed at least though
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: no it wouldn't
[16:24] <kiwi_> i cant see video preview images, however can play the youtube videos  .... any idea
[16:24] <BluesKaj> jsc__. amongst other things , yes
[16:24] <sooli> Hi there just a word about my new project http://solicms.com, a new free DB CMS ... Core engine is done, working on admin part now ... It will run of course on Ubuntu :)
[16:24] <jsc__> cynicist, I had installed tlp in an attempt to limit rampant power usage and somehow that completely wiped all evidence of there being an eth0 interface at al
[16:24] <cynicist> jsc__: if the interface doesn't register in ifconfig that is likely because the module (driver) for it isn't loaded
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> jsc__: Any unidentified devices in lspci?
[16:25] <vAd0r> I am having issues getting apt-get to work with my proxy. I have created an apt.conf file and added Acquire::http::proxy "http://proxyname.domain.net:80/";
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> Oops. scrollback...
[16:25] <vAd0r> can someone tell me what im missing
[16:25] <cynicist> jsc__: ah I dont have a laptop so I'm not familiar with what tlp does
[16:26] <robdog> hey is there a chat for scripts and encrytion around?
[16:27] <jsc__> tlp is supposed to be add-on functionality that helps but doesn't conflict with the power manager in place.
[16:27] <Pici> robdog: Theres ##security, but I don't know what you mean by 'scripts'
[16:27] <jsc__> But it recommends stuff like ethtool too, which I assume is where the problem occurred.
[16:27] <jsc__> i.e. that I overwrite some important configuration somewhere by installing it.
[16:27] <jsc__> And cynicist, lspci seems normal now.   On to breaking the next thing!
[16:30] <robdog> trying to port over a script i created in windows needing help with the transpher
[16:30] <robdog> hmmm cool thanks...whats you experience with the subject pici
[16:31] <Pici> robdog: depends what the exact question is, but I'm in #bash, I'll look in and see if I can help.
[16:31] <Guest67219> exit
[16:31] <Guest67219> \q
[16:31] <Guest20820> Hi folks.
[16:31] <daftykins> hallo
[16:32] <BarackObama> Yes we can.
[16:32] <robdog> k
[16:32] <Ziber> Hey, I've just read about xmonad. I installed it and tried to login using it, but my desktop never loads, so I just had to hard-reboot. Any thoughts?
[16:32] <lecoeus> Ziber: are you sure it didn't load?
[16:32] <BarackObama_X> I can't boot from my pendrive.
[16:33] <Ziber> lecoeus: All I see is the "Ubuntu GNOME" text on the bottom and my mouse... nothing else.
[16:33] <lecoeus> i don't know about the gnome text but tiling wms like xmonad don't usually have anything on the desktop
[16:34] <lecoeus> you just see the wallpaper
[16:34] <BarackObama_X> Edit your Xorg.conf
[16:34] <Ziber> lecoeus: But I can't even see my apps?
[16:34] <lecoeus> if the keyboard shortcut to open the terminal doesn't work, then you have a problem
[16:34] <lecoeus> Ziber: that's normal
[16:34] <robdog> pici i am there now
[16:34] <lecoeus> there is no taskbar
[16:34] <BarackObama_X> sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[16:35] <Ziber> Didn't try it. Found a xmonad config file to use though. Gonna test that out in a sec.
[16:35] <zykotick9> !gksudo | BarackObama_X
[16:35] <zykotick9> lecoeus: you can "typically" right click on the desktop to get a menu...
[16:35] <lecoeus> Ziber: press mod+shift+return
[16:35] <Ziber> I couldn't right click.
[16:35] <BarackObama_X> I always use sudo, I should try gksudo?
[16:35] <lecoeus> zykotick9: i don't remember how it works in xmonad
[16:35] <Ziber> Well, I mean, nothing happened when I did.
[16:36] <zykotick9> lecoeus: i don't use xmonad... but using WM have right click menus (i use awesome)
[16:36] <lecoeus> in my experience right click doesn't work usually in tiling wms
[16:36] <BarackObama_X> Xmonad doesn't have enough features.
[16:36] <lecoeus> i used xmonad a bit, now i use i3
[16:36] <lecoeus> i3 doesn't have right-click
[16:37] <BarackObama_X> Install Microsoft Windows.
[16:37] <wedr> lol
[16:38] <BarackObama_X> Pay Bill Gates.
[16:38] <pulsar78> Im installing Wifi on Quantal, but i cant get it to work properly
[16:38] <wedr> BarackObama_X: you nigga should be crazy
[16:38] <BarackObama_X> I'm the President.
[16:38] <pulsar78> anyone know how to swapout drivers, tried modprobe, but not getting anywhere
[16:39] <wedr> BarackObama_X: of what?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> BarackObama_X. enough
[16:40] <BarackObama_X> Fine.
[16:41] <dfht> ciao
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> pulsar78: Sometimes you can rmmod then modprobe or insmod, sometimes you have to blacklist the old drivers and reboot.
[16:43] <Bad_Taste> Hi
[16:44] <impradeepy> nwy software similar to jupiter??
[16:45] <impradeepy> for 13.04
[16:45] <impradeepy> plz help
[16:45] <pulsar78> jhutchins_wk: tnx
[16:45] <jmgk> impradeepy:  state ur issue
[16:45] <jmgk> ;)
[16:46] <Ziber> So, that didn't work. But I got my background image.
[16:46] <impradeepy> over heating
[16:46] <impradeepy> fan control
[16:46] <impradeepy> cpu temp
[16:46] <wheatthin> acpi
[16:47] <impradeepy> ney software like jupiter?
[16:47] <impradeepy> for better power control options
[16:47] <Ziber> I followed this guide http://www.markhansen.co.nz/xmonad-ubuntu-oneiric/ to get xmonad + unity to work. My desktop background loaded, and I could right click, but nothing else happened.
[16:48] <impradeepy> ney help??
[16:48] <cpuguy83_> Is there not a better way to do this: dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb || apt-get -f install -y && dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb
[16:48] <Ziber> I guess it says it doesn't have unity. But I want to see a launcher of some kind...
[16:49] <cpuguy83_> I know redhat will let you install local rpms with yum so dependencies are automatically installed, haven't seen any better way to do this in Ubuntu
[16:49] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: i'd think the 2nd "dpkg -i riak_1.4.2-1_amd64.deb" would be redundant
[16:50] <cpuguy83_> zykotick9: so the apt-get -f install would take care of going ahead and installing it?
[16:50] <jhutchins_wk> cpuguy83_: As far as I know it's still a two step process, so yeah, dpkg -i, apt-get -f.
[16:51] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: will the first dpkg installs the package (but, i'm assuming is missing dependencies), the the apt-get -f install fixes the issue.  no now everything "should" be installed.
[16:51] <asm32dev> hi lads
[16:51]  * zykotick9 can't type today
[16:52] <asm32dev> i have quiet sound in my kubuntu 13.04. can you help me?
[16:53] <cpuguy83_> aah... I figured the install didn't happen because it's missing the dependencies.
[16:53] <wheatthin> asm32dev, did you try unmuting?
[16:53] <cpuguy83_> Sure would be nice if apt-get could be pointed at a local file
[16:53] <asm32dev> wheatthin, what is unmuting?)
[16:53] <wheatthin> cpuguy83_, why not use dpkg?
[16:54] <cpuguy83_> wheatthin: For a single step process
[16:54] <wheatthin> lol ummm why as long as you get it installed?
[16:54] <wheatthin> just dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[16:54] <asm32dev> master channel is set to maximum volume, but sound is quiet
[16:55] <debasis> Whats the apt command?why its used?
[16:55] <zykotick9> cpuguy83_: there is a tool to make it single step... but i can't recall the name (i've never actually used it).... gdebi i believe?!
[16:55] <wheatthin> asm32dev, so go to the PCM and unmute
[16:56] <asm32dev> pcm is set to maximum too
[16:57] <cynicist> zykotick9: that's the graphical deb installer
[16:57] <asm32dev> sound card is a kind of realtek
[16:58] <cynicist> zykotick9: hmm although apparently it can be used in a terminal too
[17:01] <jmgk_> hi baracko /msg NickServ info mendota
[17:01] <cynicist> debasis: apt lets you get remote packages and does dependency resolution
[17:01] <jmgk_> oops
[17:04] <flk> hello
[17:04] <flk> kinda new at this
[17:04] <flk> i need some help with ubuntu 13.10 windows 8 dual boot
[17:05] <Ziber> Still troubleshooting xmonad, someone is suggesting adding it to "startup applications (on the Unity Panel)" What/where is that?
[17:06] <wheatthin> It says Startup Applications lol
[17:06] <wheatthin> and it does what it's name says it does.
[17:06] <Ziber> ... Where?
[17:07] <wheatthin> Settings manager?
[17:07] <Ziber> I don't see it on the System Settings.
[17:08] <lecoeus> Ziber: i think making xmonad a unity startup application would run it inside unity
[17:08] <Ziber> Oh, did a search for it on the full system search thing.
[17:08] <lecoeus> as a substitute for compiz
[17:09] <Ziber> lecoeus: Well, I want to do a unity + xmonad setup.
[17:09] <Ziber> I don't use compiz.
[17:09] <Ziber> Sot hat'd be fine.
[17:09] <Ziber> *So that'd
[17:09] <wheatthin> compiz is installed by default isn't it?
[17:09] <lecoeus> Ziber: ok then
[17:09] <Ziber> Yeah. Replacing it would be fine though.
[17:10] <lecoeus> xmonad --replace would work for one-time
[17:10] <wheatthin> might add that as an alias
[17:10] <zykotick9> lecoeus: if you replace compiz, i'm not sure any of unity will be able to run...
[17:10] <bl4ckdu5t> How do I format from cli?
[17:10] <flk> anyone have experience with uefi windows 8 ubuntu 13.10 dual boot?
[17:11] <bl4ckdu5t> format external drives
[17:11] <wheatthin> bl4ckdu5t, very carefully..  us parted
[17:11] <wheatthin> use*
[17:12] <bl4ckdu5t> wheatthin: you mean 'su parted'?
[17:13] <lecoeus> zykotick9: you are probably right
[17:13] <lecoeus> zykotick9: i've never actually used unity but i think it was designed as a compiz plugin
[17:13] <wheatthin> parted is the app... use sudo .
[17:13] <bl4ckdu5t> ok thanks
[17:13] <zykotick9> lecoeus: it is (currently) a compiz plugin, yes.
[17:14] <jubale> CPU monitor screenlet comes up several times at boot. Any help for getting excess instances to stop launching?
[17:14] <Ziber> Tried "xmonad --replace" and lost all window controls... :(
[17:14] <Ziber> !xmonad
[17:14] <Ziber> :/
[17:16] <Ziber> Also, I have an unworldy number of sessions in my list, on the login screen. How can I remove some of those?
[17:17] <minimec> Ziber: Have a look in /usr/share/xsessions
[17:17] <lecoeus> Ziber: yeah, we were saying unity + xmonad is probably impossible
[17:18] <minimec> Ziber: Probably enough to put a '.' in ront of the session you want to hide
[17:18] <Ziber> Yeah.
[17:18] <Ziber> Hm.
[17:18] <Ziber> :(
[17:18] <Ziber> Impossible you say?
[17:19] <lecoeus> unity is implemented as a compiz plugin
[17:19] <wheatthin> Ziber, unprobable without multiple complications.
[17:19] <Ziber> :(
[17:20] <Ziber> Well, I'm gonna try this Gnome + Xmonad. Brb.
[17:22] <Ziber> Gnome + xmonad doesn't even have window controls.
[17:22] <Ziber> Le sigh.
[17:22] <Ziber> Can I logout from terminal?
[17:23] <wheatthin> lol I wouldn't see why not.
[17:23] <Ziber> Yeah, how?
[17:23] <wheatthin> exit.
[17:23] <Ziber> That and "logout" close the terminal tab.
[17:23] <Ziber> Not my whole session.
[17:23] <wheatthin> Ummm  exit
[17:24] <Ziber> ?
[17:24] <Lockzi> Guys, I am having problems with permission on a mounted CIFS share for my local system users. I am mounting it with gid=1003 (which is a group all users are a member of), and am also using it with file_mode=0777 and same for dir_mode. The users can create folders on some directories but not all - what could be the cause?
[17:24] <wheatthin> TYPE EXIT in lowercaps~!@
[17:24] <Ziber> Right. Did that. Closed terminal tab.
[17:24] <Ziber> :)
[17:24] <wheatthin> smh lol
[17:24] <lecoeus> Ziber: mod+shift+q
[17:25] <lecoeus> if xmonad is active
[17:25] <Ziber> apparently not.
[17:25] <pogiako> how do i make gedit transparent?
[17:25] <Ziber> restarting again. brb.
[17:25] <wheatthin> pogiako, you don't.
[17:26] <pogiako> haha y?
[17:26] <pogiako> but i want it to :(
[17:26] <wheatthin> not unless it's in the appearance section.
[17:27] <wheatthin> in System Settings
[17:27] <pogiako> its not there lol
[17:27] <pogiako> oh btw
[17:27] <pogiako> how do i make toolbar built-in windows?
[17:28] <wheatthin> isn't this what google is for? lol
[17:28] <pogiako> haha
[17:28] <pogiako> ok ok
[17:28] <rayv> pogiako: i think qt 4 designer may be solution for you
[17:31] <Ziber> Certainly frustrating :(
[17:31] <flk> anyone here yet who could help with uefi dual boot with windows?
[17:32] <pogiako> flk: what happened?
[17:32] <daftykins> flk: describe your situation
[17:32] <flk> i installed ubuntu on a windows 8 computer
[17:32] <wheatthin> !uefi | flk
[17:32] <flk> then a serious of events caused my current situation
[17:33] <devnulled> hey all, I'm trying to use one of the Ubuntu cloud images in Vagrant and it seems like the template uses a disk size that is way too small to be useful.  Does anyone know where would I go to report this/talk to someone about the template?
[17:33] <flk> ive read all that already
[17:33] <flk> my problem is as soon as i boot-repair grub is my default boot loader
[17:33] <flk> then if i select windows
[17:33] <flk> and restart
[17:34] <flk> windows boot loader overwrites grub
[17:34] <flk> and i cant get into ubuntu
[17:34] <flk> if i boot from liveCD and do boot-repair again
[17:34] <flk> i can boot into ubuntu
[17:34] <flk> but again
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: try #vagrant
[17:35] <wheatthin> flk, please don't use return as punctuation
[17:35] <Ziber> Rather than xmonad, are there other solutions to have my laptop and external monitor to each have their own, individually-controlled workspaces?
[17:35] <flk> as soon as i pick windows boot loader, the system boots into windows without giving me any other options
[17:35] <flk> sry, im too excited. i will control myself
[17:35] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO:  I'll give that a shot.  It is a Ubuntu created template so I think I'd need to talk to someone from Ubuntu about it, but doesn't hurt to try there.  Thanks.
[17:36] <wheatthin> flk, sounds like you have the wrong disk booting. Is this a dualboot on the same hard drive?
[17:36] <flk> yes
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: where did you get the template exactly and how big is the disk size?
[17:37] <wheatthin> flk, by checking fdisk   'sudo fdisk -l' you can see which partition is marked to boot.
[17:37] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: I got the image/template from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ (I can give the full URL to the image if helpful) and the disk size is only 4 GB.
[17:38] <flk> this is odd. fdisk -l shows only sda1
[17:38] <nightdemon666> flk, are you dual booting windows and ubuntu?
[17:38] <flk> yes nightdemon
[17:38] <wheatthin> nightdemon666, windows 8
[17:39] <nightdemon666> and you "should" have ubuntu installed onto partition sda2 but fdisk only show you sda1 (which is windows)?
[17:39] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure if its a typo or what.  Disk images for Vagrant tend to be 40 GB.  I believe the images only allocate space as needed, so it shouldn't be a problem to increase it to something usable.
[17:39] <flk> this is what fdisk got me: i need some help with ubuntu 13.10 windows 8 dual boot
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: i presume the intention is that you can expand the partition to you needs
[17:39] <flk> ups, let me try this again
[17:40] <xyzwhatever> hi i connected my old windows harddisk and it says access denied why i dont have root access to it?
[17:40] <flk> fdisk -l ...  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>+  ee  GPT Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[17:40] <wheatthin> flk please use pastebin for your output
[17:40] <nightdemon666> flk, did you partition your internal drive (/dev/sda) so that you would have /dev/sda2
[17:40] <wheatthin> flk, you'll need to use parted, since it's GPT
[17:40] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: You have to basically create your own image again, or add your own new partition to do it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/317338/how-can-i-increase-disk-size-on-a-vagrant-vm
[17:40] <flk> ahh, how do i do it with parted?
[17:41] <nightdemon666> hmm, i sem to remember partitioning a GPT with Gparted... FYI
[17:42] <nightdemon666> but you can see the partitions with parted yes... sudo parted -l i think
[17:42] <flk> can i get a report like with fdisk from gparted?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> devnulled: i see. it seems quite difficult to find who's responible for that build alright. not seeing anything on any of the community pages
[17:42] <flk> Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  525MB   524MB   fat32                 boot  2      525MB   567MB   41,9MB  fat32                 msftdata  3      701MB   1226MB  524MB   ntfs                  msftdata  4      1226MB  1883GB  1881GB  ntfs                  msftdata  5      1883GB  1979GB  96,7GB  ext4                  msftdata  6      1979GB  1988GB  8193MB  linux-swap(v1)  7      1988GB  2000GB  1
[17:42] <wheatthin> flk, use pastebin please so you don't get kicked
[17:43] <flk> need some help with that wheatthin
[17:43] <wheatthin> !paste > flk
[17:43] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: Exactly, it seems easy to contact sales, but impossible to find who builds the images there, etc.  :)  I could see how the 4 GB could be intentional, but at the same time I don't think it allocates the disk space upfront, so something more reasonable seems appropriate.
[17:44] <nightdemon666> just useflk, based on what you information you have given me, it sounds liek grub is NOT installed to /dev/sda1, hence why you are not seeing the GRUB to give additional boot options.
[17:44] <flk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422329/
[17:44] <Ziber> Anyone with multiple monitors figure out how to get each monitor to have independent workspaces?
[17:45] <soman> Is there a free and cool video editor like sony vegas for ubuntu?
[17:45] <wheatthin> Ziber, I think you can, but it's tricky cause you gotta play with tty's
[17:45] <Myrtti> soman: dunno about being "like sony vegas" but openshot is nice
[17:45] <Ziber> Hrm...
[17:45] <nightdemon666> GRUB MUST be installed to /dev/sda1 to provide the necessary boot options to boot into ubutnu
[17:46] <flk> on a side not, paste.ubuntu is great!
[17:46] <flk> dev/sda1 is efi/boot
[17:46] <nightdemon666> and you also have to perform a sudo update-grub command too i think...
[17:47] <thumpba> how old is Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3
[17:47] <Test5132> I am using wubi, but... my laptop fan is a lot louder compared to win7, even though i just have a few tabs open on browser
[17:47] <wheatthin> ancient
[17:47] <Test5132> any quick fix for that?
[17:47] <Pici> thumpba: Which package are you asking about?
[17:48] <thumpba> Pici: i have a legacy system and trying to put a date with this ubuntu release...Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3
[17:48] <axisys> atl+ctrl+right arrow does not change window
[17:48] <Pici> thumpba: There is no such release with that number, that is a format used for package versions.
[17:48] <thumpba> Pici: when i do a uname -a i get "2.6.24-24-xen"
[17:48] <wheatthin> lol well we are at 13.10 now :)
[17:49] <Pici> thumpba: What does lsb_release -a  say?
[17:49] <thumpba> command not found
[17:49] <axisys> if I am on a gnome terminal it prints C for right arrow and D for left arrow.. anyway to restore keyboard shortcuts?
[17:49] <Pici> thumpba: cat /etc/issue ?
[17:49] <wheatthin> hmm.
[17:49] <flk> i did sudo update-grub
[17:49] <nightdemon666> flk, how big is this harddrive? internal to laptop or desktop?
[17:49] <flk> its a desktop 2TB drive
[17:50] <nightdemon666> ok...
[17:50] <devnulled> hitsujiTMO: Anyhow, thanks for the help.. I think I might just have to do it manually and create my own image unfortunately.
[17:50] <nightdemon666> did you make sure that when grub installed that it installed to /dev/sda1?
[17:50] <flk> grub is installed to the ubuntu partition sda5
[17:50] <zykotick9> axisys: do you mean in vi?  install vim!
[17:50] <nightdemon666> thats the problem flk
[17:51] <axisys> I wanted to enable 3d widows with ccsm and that's when I lost the alt+ctlr+arrow functionality.. removed ccsm and compiz-plugin-extras since then.. unity --reset looks deprecated
[17:51] <flk> i cant use an uefi partition
[17:51] <axisys> zykotick9: switch workspace with alt+ctrl+arrow is failing
[17:51] <wheatthin> flk why not?
[17:51] <nightdemon666> GRUB's purpose is to allow boot options... windows boot loader will boot you straight to windows unless replaced by RUB
[17:52] <zykotick9> axisys: ahhh.  different issue!  i've got no clue on yours ;)
[17:52] <axisys> when I hit alt+ctrl+arrow and I am on a gnome-terminal .. instead of changing workspace it is showing C or D depending the direction of the arrow.. odd
[17:52] <flk> ok, so i would have to overwrite the entire windows boot loader
[17:52] <nightdemon666> yes
[17:52] <flk> can i somehow leave the windows boot loader and add ubuntu to it?
[17:52] <nightdemon666> but it wont hurt windows, it just replaces the boot loader with grub
[17:52] <axisys> keyboard shortcut shows the right setting.. but no worky
[17:52] <wheatthin> flk, it's more difficult like that.
[17:53] <flk> id like to keep the windows efi loader since its a premade dell
[17:53] <axisys> even the workspace switch does not work when pick a running application on different workspace
[17:53] <wheatthin> flk, and since GRUB is maintained by ubuntu, that's what we support :)
[17:53] <nightdemon666> flk, GRUB will take over and boot windows normally as it should, but in order to boot to other OS recognized by GRUB, you must replace the windows one first.
[17:53] <flk> ok
[17:53] <axisys> something needs reset/restore .. lets hope I dont need to re-install ubuntu
[17:53] <poorlinuxnoob> help, I connected my windows 7 harddisk, and now I cannot access any files, under permission everything is set to "only owner" can I change this under ubuntu?
[17:54] <flk> so the question now would be how to install grub to sda1?
[17:54] <wheatthin> poorlinuxnoob, you have to mount it with user permissions in fstab and chown the files
[17:54] <martin1989> hi people!
[17:54] <martin1989> i have a question
[17:54] <poorlinuxnoob> wheatthin: you mean just mount it with sudo?
[17:54] <martin1989> i cannot hear any radio in amarok 2.x
[17:54] <nightdemon666> flk, in the future, if you need to remove ubuntu, and want to windows boot loader back, then you must use windows recovery disk to recover windows boot loader.
[17:55] <wheatthin> poorlinuxnoob, if you want it to automatically mount, then you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[17:55] <DrManhattan> I am currently using the generic kernel on a VM. I want to switch over to the linux-virtual kernel, however when I install the linux-virtual package the bootloader wont show the virtual kernel as an option or boot it. Any help?
[17:55] <wheatthin> with proper user permissions
[17:55] <poorlinuxnoob> no i just need it once for backup
[17:55] <wheatthin> ok, so then sudo -s and then do your backup as room.
[17:55] <wheatthin> root*
[17:55] <martin1989> does someone know something about listening radio in amarok??
[17:55] <eyfour> DrManhattan: have you installed the "$-headers" package(s) as well?
[17:56] <DrManhattan> eyfour, I have. It is part of the normal install
[17:57] <DrManhattan> when I do a manual update-grub it gives me a menu option, but I need the boot menu to boot the virtual kernel by default
[17:57] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Ah, sorry
[17:57] <eyfour> DrManhattan: From what I remember, you can set this by editing GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[17:57] <Ziber> !workspaces
[17:57] <Ziber> !monitors
[17:57] <Ziber> Sigh.
[17:58] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[17:59] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, I appreciate the help, but a gui app is not what I am looking for.
[17:59] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, obviously you didn't read the page.
[17:59] <Ziber> I'm really surprised there's no easy way to split workspaces for multiple monitors.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> is there a way at all?
[18:00] <Ziber> Not that I know of.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> idd
[18:00] <flk> i was afk for a moment, can someone help me on installing grub to the /boot/efi partition (sda1)?
[18:00] <eyfour> DrManhattan: On second thought, if you want to have outdated -virtual packages installed in addition to newer generic-packages, it's possible that grub might not let you simply select one the of the "previous" kernel versions with a number. Hmm..
[18:00] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: ?
[18:01] <Safety_Dance> !fixgrub|DrManhattan
[18:01] <DrManhattan> THanks
[18:01] <BluesKaj> flk. on live media , cd/dvd/or usb , open a terminal and do , sudo grub-install /dev/sda ,(not sda1)
[18:02] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: you can change the default kernel in /etc/default/grub
[18:02] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, he's not fixing grub, he's changing the boot order.
[18:02] <flk> blueskaj, but i want it on sda1, thats my efi boot partition
[18:02] <BluesKaj> flk. live media meaning you live ubuntu installation media
[18:03] <wheatthin> flk, like livedvd or usb
[18:03] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, sorry?
[18:03] <flk> yes wheatthin, i understand i have to boot with liveCD
[18:03] <Ziber> :(
[18:03] <Safety_Dance> oh right...
[18:04] <Safety_Dance> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[18:04] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Apparently, it can be done after all. See "Setting a Submenu entry as the default" on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[18:05] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, like thet?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> flk. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Install_GRUB2_in_.28U.29EFI_systems
[18:06] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, not sure why u highlight me :/
[18:07] <poorlinuxnoob> how do I change chmod for a whole folder and all its subdirectories and files??
[18:07] <Safety_Dance> find the files first
[18:07] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, because sir, you were getting two different issues confused. One guy needs to repair/install grub... the next guy wants to change it's boot order.
[18:07] <flk> let me try some of these, thank you!
[18:08] <Safety_Dance> that is detailed in the docs wheatthin (sir)
[18:09] <wheatthin> lol wow I give up. I was polite, and someone has to be rude.. go figure.
[18:10] <wheatthin> Safety_Dance, but what you're not getting is you were specifying the wrong document to the wrong person with another GRUB issue.
[18:11] <jubale> Is lspci command equivelant to a registry view command for Windows?
[18:11] <duxb> After upgrading to 13.10, when I log in to my phpmyadmin from the machine it's hosted on, everything is fine, but when I log in from a remote location, I see error indicators next to all my databases, but it gives no information as to what errors anywhere I look, any help?
[18:12] <daftykins> duxb: if nothing bad is happening, why worry? clear that systems' browser cache
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, everything is detailed in the documentation page
[18:13] <daftykins> duxb: also i'm afraid phpmyadmin != ubuntu support
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> that i linked
[18:13] <Eagleman> I accidently deleted a file i moodified a few minutes aigo, is there a way to get it back?
[18:13] <Safety_Dance> go ahead and read it
[18:13] <duxb> daftykins: I tried #phpmyadmin, nobody's home
[18:14] <daftykins> duxb: good things come to those who wait ^_^
[18:14] <nightdemon666> i havent tried before but, wouldnt super grub disk be appropriate for flk's issue, or is super grub disk outdated for uefi/windows 8 boot process wheatthin?
[18:14] <buu> Eagleman: Probably not, no.
[18:14] <wheatthin> nightdemon666, I've never used super grub, so I cannot say.
[18:15] <Safety_Dance> wheatthin, what issue in particualr do you speak of that is not covered in the documentation that i linked sir
[18:15] <DrManhattan> strange and kinda crappy that the linux-virtual package is behind the linux-generic. Is there any way to remove linux-generic from the system? I tried apt-get remove linux-generic and linux-image-generic =- neither worked
[18:15] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, cause neither are installed.
[18:16] <daftykins> DrManhattan: do you want to remove a specific kernel, or prevent it installing a generic?
[18:16] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, nonsense
[18:16] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I want to remove the generic and stop it from installing in the future
[18:16] <wheatthin> DrManhattan, it's a virtual package linking to a different set of packages.
[18:17] <Richhh> trying to install ubuntu on an 6yo pc, seems theres a problem with the mobo's ide interface (read errors with various burns, optical drives, ide cables), bios supports booting from usb devices but says 'invalid system disc' on various makes of bootable ubuntu usbs, i have one more idea, could i put an ubuntu iso on a 2nd hdd and install across to the other hdd from it?
[18:17] <DrManhattan> wheatthin, ok, so how do I go about removing it? I want to use linux-virtual, and linux-virtual only
[18:17] <Richhh> (have also just tried updating the bios, succeeded but no change on 'invalid system disc' message)
[18:18] <daftykins> Richhh: 6 years old, hope you're not trying to use 13.10 standard
[18:18] <Richhh> uhh yeah i was
[18:18] <nightdemon666> Richhh, it should be possible if you install via UNETBOOTIN
[18:18] <daftykins> Richhh: but yep if you made it bootable that may well work. how are you making your USB drives?
[18:18] <wheatthin> daftykins, my computer is 7 and runs it just fine :)
[18:18] <Eagleman> buu, there should be ways, right?
[18:18] <Richhh> well lubuntu 13.10
[18:18] <daftykins> wheatthin: well i'm pleased for you, but this of course does not make it a rule
[18:19] <daftykins> Richhh: oh good, not standard then.
[18:19] <lmat> How do I make vnc server only serve one monitor ?
[18:19] <lmat> (or an area? or something...)
[18:19] <daftykins> lmat: i bet they have documentation for that ;)
[18:19] <lmat> daftykins: I've been looking. I'll keep looking if you think it's out there :)
[18:19] <daftykins> i have no idea
[18:20] <wheatthin> lmat, by selecting the :1   tty port when starting the daemon
[18:20] <lmat> wheatthin: Thanks. You're talking about vino ?
[18:20] <wheatthin> I'm talking about vncserver in general.
[18:20] <Richhh> daftykins nightdemon666 have tried usbcreater and unetbootin
[18:20] <lmat> wheatthin: okay.
[18:20] <Richhh> creator*
[18:20] <daftykins> Richhh: what's the host OS you're creating these with?
[18:22] <nightdemon666> Richhh, you are setting the BIOS to boot from specific IDE drive right?
[18:22] <Richhh> daftykins its 3GHz Celeron with 1GB RAM, GeForce 7600 GT
[18:22] <daftykins> eww
[18:22] <Richhh> daftykins windows 8
[18:22] <daftykins> severely memory challenged :)
[18:23] <Richhh> its my grandads old pc, with an old but loved gfx card etc added to it
[18:23] <wheatthin> actually windows 8 runs great on tablets with small memory.
[18:23] <daftykins> "tablets"
[18:23] <Safety_Dance> !offtopic|wheatthin
[18:23] <daftykins> wheatthin: i'm sorry but these statements of yours are utterly useless
[18:23] <wheatthin> so if they can run on something that minute, then. I'm sorry you feel that way
[18:24] <Richhh> nightdemon666 im setting the boot order to usb-hdd first, if thats what u mean
[18:24] <Richhh> i havent tried to install from a second hdd yet, but i guess thats possible
[18:24] <Richhh> right?
[18:25] <Richhh> seem so
[18:25] <Richhh> seems
[18:25] <daftykins> Richhh: tends to be better to use a boot menu than rely on boot prioerities, if there is one
[18:26] <nightdemon666> i suggest loading the .iso to the 2nd internal ide drive (thats what you meant by 2nd hdd right?) via Unetbootin, then when booting from it on desktop, make sure that ide drive is set to boot first. Unetbootin bootloader "should" appear and allow you do boot into live environment...
[18:26] <wheatthin> lol I give up.. people have no logic in here it seems.
[18:26] <daftykins> though prepare for wonderful GRUB issues :D
[18:26] <daftykins> wheatthin: what logic is this? :)
[18:27] <wheatthin> oh don't worry about it. It's offtopic remember?
[18:27] <Richhh> ok daftykins and nightdemon666
[18:27] <daftykins> logic isn't off topic :(
[18:28] <Ziber> anyone know of anything like this for Intel integrated? http://blog.linuxacademy.com/linux/ubuntu-and-multiple-monitors-amd-edition/
[18:28] <nightdemon666> Richhh, just make sure that GRUB is installed to the drive you plan to boot ubuntu from... are you intending to dual boot windows and ubuntu on that drive?
[18:29] <Richhh> nightdemon666 no
[18:29] <daftykins> Ziber: do you mean drivers?
[18:30] <Richhh> first just install ubuntu on its own drive
[18:30] <Richhh> maybe install windows on the 2nd drive later
[18:30] <Ziber> The GUI shown there seems to do exactly what I want... but for AMD, rather than intel integrated.
[18:30] <superjoe30> when I run a program I get: error while loading shared libraries: libfoo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:30] <superjoe30> it works fine if I do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib ./myprogram
[18:31] <superjoe30> this is a brand new saucy installation; I thought /usr/local/lib was in the library path?
[18:31] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Have you tried removing linux-headers-generic as well as the linux-image-generic package? This worked for me. Make sure you're able to boot from your virtual image before doing this, though.
[18:31] <DrManhattan> ive tried, no luck
[18:31] <Ziber> daftykins: The GUI there is capable of individual workspaces per monitor as I'm trying to achieve.
[18:31] <nightdemon666> Richhh, just make sure GRUB gets installed to the drive ubuntu will be booting off of... example; you want to install to 1st hdd (/dev/sda) and you are booting from 2nd hdd to do that (/dev/sdb) make sure GRUB gets installed on /dev/sda. Just verify that before saying "ok" to installing the OS :)
[18:32] <DrManhattan> eyfour, it says neither is installed, although they both are
[18:33] <zeus__> Gents, I have a problem with the Terminus font, when I use it, it doesn't look like it's a bitmap font
[18:34] <eyfour> DrManhattan: Really? Sorry, but in that case I'm out of ideas. As mentioned earlier, though, it appears you can get Grub to boot to a virtual image.
[18:35] <eyfour> DrManhattan: ...as default
[18:36] <eyfour> DrManhattan: it says neither is installed? Did you install them through apt?
[18:36] <zigurat> How I overcome the SIS videocard issue? It's driving me mad.
[18:39] <queretaro> Is there any aptitude flag or something that can help checking if there are security updates?
[18:39] <starnix> Guys, when i try to get torrent file, firefox asks for me to choose an application? what should I do? ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <queretaro> starnix just select a torrent application that you have installed, one such as Transmission
[18:40] <zykotick9> starnix: or, just save the file.  then open it after with you torrent client.
[18:40] <eyfour> DrManhattan: how about ditching the linux-virtual package, and then installing linux-image-virtual and linux-headers-virtual? Does update-grub list them now? I struggled with a very similar issue myself, and there was something about switching between the aforementioned installation methods that solved it in my case.
[18:41] <starnix> zykotick9, i cannot download the file it self, it asks me to choose the application...
[18:42] <starnix> queretaro, transmission is installed, it doesn't list in that...
[18:43] <queretaro> starnix: through that file explorer window that opens up, navigate to /usr/bin and select it from there
[18:45] <starnix> queretaro, thanks.
[18:46] <zigurat> How do I overcome the sis videocard issue?
[18:47] <lmat> wheatthin: your suggestion (select :1 tty port when starting the daemon) seems very good and sounds promising, but I can't find this documented anywhere in vino-server (or thereabouts).
[18:48] <lmat> wheatthin: ps -ef | grep vino  shows that it is started like this :  vino-server --sm-disable
[18:48] <lmat> wheatthin: whoa
[18:49] <lmat> wheatthin: I obviously read the  vino-server --help too fast, now I'm seeing lots more options (under saya  --help-gtk, etc.)
[18:49] <lmat> wheatthin: I'll let you know if this doesn't lead anywhere :)
[18:50] <queretaro> starnix: no probs
[18:50] <queretaro> Is there any aptitude flag or something that can help checking if there are security updates?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> queretaro  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade will get the latest available in the repos, you can do this whenever you want
[18:52] <queretaro> MonkeyDust: I know, but I just want the security updates, no more no less
[18:54] <spence> s
[18:59] <Harmageddon> Hi! When I'm booting Ubuntu 13.10, a window appears saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode". I've already tried the options inside this window, I've installed the recent nvidia drivers via apt-get, tried different grub options, now I don't know what else I could try.
[18:59] <yeyeman> every time I turn off my computer it starts beeping and squeaking for 5 minutes
[18:59] <yeyeman> I think it's faxing my user data to NSA
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  they already had them
[19:00] <BluesKaj> har which nvidia card and which ubuntu version ?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon.^
[19:01] <yeyeman> canonical NSA puppets
[19:01] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: Ubuntu 13.10, nVidia GeForce GT 750m
[19:02] <Guest34365> Hello
[19:02] <Guest34365> Why does my machine have a bunch of kde updates?
[19:03] <templer> I found that I cannot print in certain applications on xubuntu as they are set to us letter as default and not a4 but was able to change it for evolution
[19:03] <tozen> Guest34365: because you using smth from kde software
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest34365  check the sources, also: maybve you're using kde programs
[19:03] <templer> is there a way to set all a4 default
[19:03] <yeyeman> how do I make ubuntu update?
[19:03] <ioria> hi,  my ethernet card (sis900) doesn't support pxe and i want to boot from a ltsp server ... i have found the file (sis900.lil) but i don't know how modify grub ! thanx
[19:03] <templer> as some are difficult to change or impossible
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade is one way
[19:04] <yeyeman> MonkeyDust, is that the same as what software center gives me?
[19:05] <templer> anyone
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  yes, the software center is another apt frontend, they are the same repos
[19:05] <tozen> yeyeman: not software-center but update-manager
[19:05] <phong_> hi guys!
[19:06] <yeyeman> good
[19:06] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. is that a laptop with dual gpus (Optimus)
[19:09] <tozen> phong_: hi! what's the matter, pal?
[19:09] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: It's a MSI laptop, not sure if one or 2 gpus, but I think it's only one. 2gb gddr5
[19:10] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: It seems to support nvidia Optimus, according to nvidia's website
[19:11] <zypper> Is there a way to set the Window Manager used by Unity?
[19:12] <zykotick9> Harmageddon: does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" list 1 card, or 2?
[19:12] <auronandace> zypper: unity is designed to work with compiz
[19:12] <zypper> auronandace: So is that simply a no?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. open a terminal , laspci , look for VGA compatible controller, .if there's more than one then you have dual gpus
[19:13] <auronandace> zypper: i don't think it was intended to switch wm
[19:13] <BluesKaj> err lspci , Harmageddon
[19:13] <auronandace> zypper: you could try another wm but i wouldn't hold my breath
[19:14] <auronandace> zypper: the older unity2d used metacity
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. or what zykotick9 , suggested
[19:14] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: fyi, you need -v with lscpi to show both with optimus/hybrid
[19:14] <Harmageddon> zykotick9, BluesKaj: searching for vga, I get Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[19:14] <Harmageddon> Searching for nvidia, theres only one entry, too
[19:15] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. run zykotick9  suggestion , lspci -v | grep -i vga
[19:18] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/wgXsq4m
[19:20] <cynicist> Harmageddon: yeah you have two gpus
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> cynicist: Yep, laptop power saving solution, switch from low-power to high-power GPU when needed.  Only sorta works in Linux.
[19:21] <cynicist> jhutchins_wk: yeah that stuff is so immature in linux atm that it's usually better to just disable one, I'd probably stop using the nvidia gpu just to save power
[19:23] <[twisti]> im trying to change the group of files the dropbox demon creates. i have attempted to do that by changing the start line in /etc/init.d/dropbox to HOME="$HOMEDIR" start-stop-daemon -b -o -c $dbuser:www-data -S -u $dbuser -x $HOMEDIR/$DAEMON - with the added hard coded www-data for the time being. but files are still created as dbuser:dbuser. the dbuser is in the www-data group. ideas ?
[19:24] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I'd prefer to stop the intel one. Where can I do this?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html
[19:24] <cynicist> Harmageddon: you should be able to disable the integrated gpu in your bios
[19:24] <Harmageddon> cynicist: ah, ok
[19:29] <lmat> wheatthin: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable --display=":1"    Cannot open display :1  (similar error for 0:1) Any recommendations ?
[19:29] <Harmageddon> BluesKaj: I'm trying this, give me a few minutes
[19:29] <ioria> hi,  my ethernet card (sis900) doesn't support pxe and i want to boot from a ltsp server ... i have found the file (sis900.lil) but i don't know how modify grub ! thanx
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> lmat: You must either do this as the user who owns that display or use the xauth magic cookie to give you access to it.
[19:30] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: running sudo !!
[19:30] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: Same thing.  Okay, looking for magic cookie...
[19:30] <Yans> y0
[19:32] <[twisti]> is there seriously no way to force dropbox to run in a different group ?
[19:32] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: Does it matter that I'm running all this locally ?
[19:32] <lmat> [twisti]: Could you add the dropbox group to the group you want ?
[19:33] <[twisti]> add a group to a group ? i dont understand
[19:33] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: It is important to note what I'm trying to do. Personally, I believe the error "cannot open display :1" because it probably doesn't exist. I only have one X server, and it's local. It was suggested that I could use :1 to just share one particular monitor.
[19:34] <[twisti]> the annoying thing is that there is a script in /etc/init.d that is clearly meant to start dropbox with an optional user/group parameter, but i guess nautilus ignores it ? im unsure whats going on exactly behind the scenes
[19:34] <lmat> jhutchins_wk: All in all, I would like vnc server to just serve one monitor (or a region of the screen or whatever).
[19:35] <lmat> [twisti]: Never used the dropbox client.  If I set "nomodeset" in /etc/default/grub, the window appears. Otherwise, the boot screen appears and then turns to black.
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> [twisti]: sticky bit.
[19:42] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I cam't find any option to disable the onboard gpu in bios. This is odd...
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Harmageddon. yeah unfortunately bumblebee is hit and miss
[19:43] <CandyCanes> did justin bieber ride selena gomez's disco stick?
[19:43] <cynicist> Harmageddon: yeah that's unfortunate but it happens, for some reason laptop bios generally have less features than a desktop bios
[19:43] <BluesKaj> !ot | CandyCanes.
[19:43] <Gnea> !ot | CandyCanes
[19:43] <CandyCanes> !ot CandyCanes
[19:44] <CandyCanes> !ot | CandyCanes
[19:44] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I see. I'm used to have many options more than here...
[19:44] <Gnea> CandyCanes: why are you here?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> does anyone care
[19:44] <CandyCanes> I am writing to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the.
[19:44] <cynicist> Harmageddon: what laptop is it btw?
[19:44] <Gnea> CandyCanes: you should say these things in #freenode
[19:44] <lmat> Gnea: haha
[19:44] <Lockzi> Hello, i have services running on my system under different users. With a mounted CIFS share, is it possible to have different users on my local system to use the same share under different server credentials?
[19:45] <Harmageddon> cynicist: MSI GE60 I750 M281 FD
[19:45] <lmat> Lockzi: yes.
[19:45] <Lockzi> In essence, can local user1 connect to the same share with the CIFS user1//pass1 and local user2 connect to the same share with the CIFS user2/pass2?
[19:45] <Gnea> lmat: :-)
[19:45] <Lockzi> lmat: where can I read about that? :)
[19:45] <lmat> Gnea: I went there to see if he was in there, but he's not :(
[19:46] <Gnea> lmat: yup. trolls will be trolls.
[19:46] <FATnerd> what is the kb shortcut for opening up chrome web browser?
[19:46] <Lockzi> Please notice that this is services running. Typically the user will not be logged in through terminal
[19:46] <lmat> Lockzi: I dunno. I think you should have each user use fsmount... oh crap, that's not it.
[19:46] <lmat> Lockzi: hold on... how are they logged on ?
[19:47] <Lockzi> lmat: Just through services running under that user
[19:47] <lmat> Lockzi: hmm... anyway, use the user-space mounting tool (what's that called ?0
[19:47] <Lockzi> Like for instance MySQLd runs under the user mysql
[19:47] <lmat> fusermount
[19:47] <lmat> (man -k user | grep mount    to the rescue)
[19:48] <Lockzi> lmat: Can I still have the SAME mount point for all users?
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: And mount the share as that user.
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: no.
[19:48] <BarackObama_X> Hope and Change.
[19:48] <lmat> Lockzi: What does 'under different server credentials' mean ?
[19:49] <Lockzi> lmat: Let me explain my reason for questioning instead so I don't go too far down a dark alley...
[19:50] <FATnerd> any nerds know how to disable auto update ?
[19:50] <FATnerd> cmon
[19:50] <lmat> Lockzi: Sorry, I hadn't read the original question closely enough.
[19:50] <reisio> FATnerd: help.ubuntu.com knows
[19:50] <Lockzi> I have successfully mounted a CIFS share using: \\<IP_ADDRESS>\seedboxdl            /dot.tkd/readynas/seedboxdl cifs    user,group,password=PASS,uid=1000,gid=1003,username=USER,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777       0       0
[19:51] <Prothumos> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am trying to find a ppa for the plugin: pidgin-sipe version 1.17 to install, but I am having no luck finding it. The best I can find is ppa for pidgin-sipe 1.15. Will I need to compile from the source?
[19:51] <Lockzi> gid 1003 = a group called "dling"
[19:51] <FATnerd> then what this room for ? oh I forgot
[19:51] <rayv> Prothumos: yes
[19:51] <Prothumos> Side note: *I've never compiled from source*
[19:51] <rayv> Prothumos: good time to learn
[19:51] <Prothumos> would you have a suggestion on a good tutorial of how to learn?
[19:51] <Lockzi> Now, on my local system I have 4 users: admin, sabnzbd, sickbeard, couchpotato. All of these users can browse the shares successfully
[19:52] <DJones> !patience | FATnerd
[19:52] <lmat> Lockzi: (are they members of dling?)
[19:52] <Lockzi> They can even RWX the files - but NOT in all folders
[19:52] <Lockzi> lmat: Yes
[19:52] <peb7268> Hi all, im trying to execute this command and its telling me unknown option to -s I think I need to quote the numbers and slashes or something. Anyone tell me what im doing wrong? sudo sed -i -e 's/listen = <IP_ADDRESS>:9000/listen = /var/run/php5-fpm.sock/g' /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[19:53] <BarackObama_X> Buy Microsoft.
[19:53] <rayv> Prothumos: gere u have short tutorial of how to compile from source http://www.wikihow.com/Compile-a-Program-in-Linux
[19:53] <Lockzi> Doing "ls -lah" tells me that the permissions as listed in bash is still 777, but I am getting Permission denied error 13 on all users except the owner (admin)
[19:53] <lmat> peb7268: um...
[19:53] <lmat> peb7268: What website did you copy this from ?
[19:53] <FATnerd> my load is up to 5.0 . help me to disable auto update
[19:53] <peb7268> Stack overflpw
[19:53] <FATnerd> cmon nerds
[19:53] <peb7268> overflow
[19:53] <Prothumos> wonderful, thank you
[19:53] <lmat> Lockzi: Who owns the files that don't work ?
[19:53] <DJones> FATnerd: Be patient, and be respectful
[19:53] <FATnerd> sorry
[19:53] <Lockzi> lmat: the user called admin (which also is a member of the dling group)
[19:53] <FATnerd> I am freaking out right now
[19:54] <reisio> FATnerd: about what
[19:54] <Guest16566> how do you save on a usb that is running ubuntu
[19:54] <lmat> Lockzi: And which group owns them ?
[19:54] <reisio> Guest16566: ordinarily you don't
[19:54] <FATnerd> I need to know how to stop the auto update
[19:54] <Guest16566> how do you set it up to do it?
[19:54] <rayv> Prothumos: but its better to make *.deb package first and then install, you can do it with checkinstall
[19:54] <Rollili> hello
[19:54] <lmat> FATnerd: Have you tried 'sudo poweroff' ?
[19:54] <reisio> FATnerd: an update that is running?
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> Guest16566: The USB is running ubuntu?
[19:54] <reisio> lmat: that's not a great idea
[19:54] <Lockzi> lmat: "admin : dling"
[19:54] <FATnerd> what?
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: Depends on what he wants
[19:55] <reisio> lmat: it doesn't :p
[19:55] <Guest16566> yes
[19:55] <lmat> Lockzi: I see... interesting. And the permission is still 777 ?
[19:55] <Lockzi> lmat: Yes
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: That's what I do when I freak out.. :P
[19:55] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Hey I looked into it for you and its a very difficult issue with newer switchable graphics, here is some info on it you may want to check out but I don't think you will be able to get what you need until projects like Bumblebee are more mature
[19:55] <reisio> lmat: that doesn't make it a great idea :p
[19:55] <cynicist> Harmageddon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics#The_New_Dynamic_Switching_Model
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: touche
[19:55] <peb7268> any takers on my regex sed question?
[19:55] <reisio> :p
[19:55] <reisio> peb7268: which question?
[19:55] <lmat> peb7268: learn the substitute syntax.
[19:55] <lmat> reisio: He has unescaped / in his sed s//
[19:56] <peb7268> it works
[19:56] <lmat> peb7268: oh, nevermind, no problem then :)
[19:56] <geoffmcc> Guest16566: assuming you are using the usb to boot on a windows machine, check out Linux Live USB Creator or search for another one that has Persistence
[19:56] <peb7268> i used it on another deal
[19:56] <reisio> lmat: that's not enough information
[19:56] <peb7268> the numbers or the slashes or spaces are killing the regex i think
[19:56] <peb7268> see above resio ( pls and thanks ) :)
[19:56] <MissingAPI> hi. i need help updating ubuntu 12.04 LTS :( update manager fails to download libpostproc52_0.8.8-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb. it is even missing in the repository!? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libav/
[19:56] <lmat> peb7268: the slashes. Do you know what the slashes mean in sed s?
[19:56] <lmat> Lockzi: hmm
[19:56] <peb7268> yeah I know what the beginning and ending slashes mean
[19:57] <lmat> Lockzi: If a file is part of group A, mod 777, and user B is member of group A, user B should be able to read the file.
[19:57] <peb7268> sudo sed -i -e 's/listen = <IP_ADDRESS>:9000/listen = /var/run/php5-fpm.sock/g' /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[19:57] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Thank you! I'll look into this. Do you think, that my chances are better on Ubuntu 12.04 or xubuntu? Or should I just wait, until bumblebee works for me?
[19:57] <lmat> peb7268: Any other slashes screw it up and must be preceeded by \
[19:57] <peb7268> right
[19:57] <BarackObama_X> Buy Windows.
[19:57] <lmat> peb7268: So do it :)
[19:57] <reisio> BarackObama_X: good idea
[19:57] <Lockzi> lmat: The problem is not reading. All users can read... But they can't create new files and not edit existing...
[19:57] <DJones> BarackObama_X: PLease stop that
[19:57] <peb7268> I knew that, just didnt know if I need to escape slashes, spaces, equals and dots or just the slashes and .
[19:58] <MissingAPI> does anyone know why that lib is missing and how i can update my security patches now?
[19:58] <peb7268> I know in regex . is a quantifier usually
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: So... touch file   doesn't work ?
[19:58] <Lockzi> lmat: Exactly
[19:58] <lmat> peb7268: Oh yeah, if you want to be more strict, use \.
[19:58] <BarackObama_X> Sir yes sir!
[19:58] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Either one will have the same issues, the support for switchable graphics is just too new in the Linux world at the moment.
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: Very odd, very odd.
[19:58] <Lockzi> lmat: touch is even what I am trying...
[19:58] <lmat> Lockzi: It's busted.
[19:58] <peb7268> Ok, im going to try escaping everything haha
[19:58] <cynicist> Harmageddon: so use whichever you enjoy more :)
[19:58] <lmat> peb7268: Probably should escape the slashes first...
[19:59] <peb7268> so spaces are fine?
[19:59] <FATnerd> thanks lmat . rm -rf solved the problem
[19:59] <lmat> peb7268: inside '' yes
[19:59] <FATnerd> cool
[19:59] <lmat> um I didn't offer that...
[19:59] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Well, if I don't see anything, I'm not enjoying much. Console login seems to look pretty much the same for different versions ;)
[19:59] <peb7268> thanks so much
[19:59] <peb7268> that did it looks like
[19:59] <FreddyFree|0ader> quit
[20:00] <cynicist> Harmageddon: oh wait what? I thought your issue was just not being able to turn off a gpu, you can't even boot?
[20:00] <Harmageddon> cynicist: Exactly :(
[20:00] <cynicist> Harmageddon: Was this always an issue or did something break a working install?
[20:00] <Dudytz> hi all .. ubuntu "stable" is based in the debian unstable?
[20:00] <lmat> Dudytz: How would you do it ?
[20:00] <reisio> Dudytz: Ubuntu doesn't have a stable
[20:00] <reisio> Dudytz: but yes Ubuntu is based on not-stable versions of Debian
[20:00] <Harmageddon> cynicist: I managed to boot the install CD once, with nomodeset. Installation worked fine, but since then, when I'm starting it normally, it doesn't work.
[20:01] <reisio> not-"stable"
[20:01] <lmat> reisio: Welcome back :)
[20:01] <reisio> lmat: I pressed the wrong key combo :p
[20:01] <Dudytz> a debian unstable installing (with gnome desktop) is very similar to ubuntu gnome 13.10?
[20:01] <lmat> reisio: oh, good, you didn't give  sudo poweroff  a whirl :P
[20:02] <reisio> hahah
[20:02] <reisio> Dudytz: yes that would be true
[20:03] <kostkon> Dudytz, there are a few differences, like ubuntu using upstart instead of sysv
[20:03] <kostkon> for example*
[20:05] <peb7268> exit
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  planning to create another ubuntu derivative?
[20:08] <Dudytz> no! LoL ... plan to migrate from ubuntu to debian
[20:08] <Dudytz> or to ubuntu gnome
[20:08] <bekks> Dudytz: Because you need to use older software? ;)
[20:09] <Dudytz> no, because I don't like unity
[20:09] <Dudytz> and I use desktop via x forwarding in a lxc container
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  install other DE, logout, switch, login
[20:09] <Dudytz> and is very problematic to install the ubuntu from minimal and install gnome without the unity things
[20:10] <Dudytz> (sorry my bad english)
[20:10] <Pici> Dudytz: Why is it a problem?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[20:10] <jhutchins_wk> Sometimes people PM me and it's days before I even notice the new tab.
[20:11] <reisio> jhutchins_wk: you can probably make irssi yell more, if you wanted to
[20:11] <reisio> see #irssi
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> reisio: I really don't.
[20:12] <reisio> :)
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> reisio: I don't mind PMs, but they end up being pointless.
[20:12]  * topper4125 only uses Mini
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> ... which is one of the reasons I don't mind them.
[20:12] <reisio> I prefer /notice's, but most people don't know about them
[20:13] <Dudytz> ok .. I have been installed ubuntu saucy (using minimal cd) ... I install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and gdm ... but when I run gnome-session in the x forwarding, I see the unity desktop, how to change to gnome?
[20:13] <reisio> actually what I _really_ prefer is people who get upset at reading IRC messages to either learn how to use /ignore or to leave :p
[20:13] <reisio> but since that'll never happen, I use /notice and /msg to say certain things privately
[20:13] <topper4125> Dudytz, log out, click the 'lil icon next to your name on the login screen, select DE of your choice
[20:14] <Dudytz> I don't have the login manager
[20:14] <Dudytz> is a X forwarding via a ssh logged with the correct user
[20:14] <Dudytz> I need only to start the desktop
[20:14] <Dudytz> but, when I run gnome-session, the desktop manager that is executed is the unity
[20:15] <bekks> Dudytz: Then start another desktop.
[20:15] <Dudytz> is there a configuration file to set the gnome as the default dm?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  unity a shell over gnome3
[20:15] <Dudytz> great, how to disable it?
[20:15] <Dudytz> and set the "pure" gnome3
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  find gnome-shell
[20:17] <kostkon> Dudytz, gnome classic or gnome shell is the one you want?
[20:17] <Dudytz> gnome-shell
[20:17] <Dudytz> is just the command that I execute
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  does gnome-shell suit you, is your issue solved?
[20:22] <Dudytz> no, when I start gnome-shell .. I see the unity dm
[20:23] <alnkpa2> is there a to swap back all that's been swapped out of the RAM?
[20:23] <alnkpa2> *a way
[20:23] <bekks> sudo swapoff
[20:24] <alnkpa2> and to reenable it right away?
[20:24] <funky> https://www.jungledisk.com/business/server/features/ can I use it to mirror entire server?
[20:24] <funky> wonders
[20:26] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[20:26] <Pici> funky: Ask them.  I'm not sure why you think we'd know about some third party tool.
[20:26] <funky> Pici well its very popular tool
[20:26] <FlashSoul> Extra info : Ubuntu is the only OS on this computer.
[20:26] <FlashSoul> or was
[20:26] <funky> so I think someone probably used it
[20:27] <Pici> funky: It has nothing to do with Ubuntu support. You should contact rackspace for questions: https://support.jungledisk.com/home
[20:28] <funky> Pici dude its related to ubuntu
[20:28] <funky> as it helps many ubuntu users to back up their servers
[20:28] <funky> :P
[20:29] <olf-folks> why do i have a chinese ip address trying to ssh my server?
[20:29] <reisio> olf-folks: why wouldn't you
[20:29] <Pici> olf-folks: welcome to the internet
[20:29] <reisio> also have you been outside today? You might bein China
[20:30] <reisio> !
[20:30] <FlashSoul> old-folks : Have fun with a honeypot
[20:31] <olf-folks> can anyone look at this pcap file and tell me if they were trying to connect or if they were activly doing something on my server?
[20:31] <Pici> olf-folks: Probably just trying to login. Thats what happens when you have a server on the internet.  Check your auth.log and perhaps install fail2ban or a similar package.
[20:36] <olf-folks> wow, apparently yeah there has been about 8000 attempts to break in to my root acct via ssh
[20:37] <olf-folks> all diffrent ips lol
[20:37] <reisio> olf-folks: disabling the ability to ssh in as root isn't the worst idea
[20:37] <reisio> other than that, people are going to try to break into your server, always
[20:37] <reisio> you can force them to at least go through the effort of finding another IP to try with, though
[20:38] <reisio> with things like fail2ban
[20:38] <reisio> won't stop it, but makes it less noisy
[20:40] <olf-folks> reisio: i have a 22 char alpha numric root password hahaha
[20:41] <reisio> olf-folks: so you have a bad root password
[20:41] <reisio> olf-folks: http://xkcd.com/936/
[20:41] <Pici> olf-folks: Then at least disable root login from ssh.
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: If you run sshd on 22 you get brute force attacks.  Law of the internet.
[20:42] <reisio> you get them regardless
[20:42] <FlashSoul> In any case you should refrain from giving such information about your password.
[20:42] <reisio> no that was smart
[20:42] <reisio> now he knows he chose his password badly
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: The only effective thing left to do is to run it on an obscure port, and they're catching on to that too.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> olf-folks: fail2ban and throttling worked until they started doing low-speed distributed attacks.  They come from a lot of different IPs and aren't repeated often enough to get banned.
[20:45] <olf-folks> yeah the log showed them changeing the port every attempt
[20:46] <olf-folks> i would estimate aronund 10k failed attempts to login
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> what is so important that you need a server is my question
[20:47] <soczol> hi, my server was in the middle of a 'resize2fs' call when it suddenly became unreachable. SSHing accepts username and password, but nothing happens after that. I can connect to it through IPMI but when I log I only get the "last login from <x>" header, and nothing else; could this be caused by the resize2fs operation? and if so, I guess that rebooting at this time would be a bad idea?
[20:47] <Nach0z> soczol: if this happened to me I'd leave it alone for a while. I get the feeling it's chugging away and getting hung up on disk IO.
[20:48] <Nach0z> also I really hope you did that inside tmux/screen/byobu/something.
[20:48] <Lockzi> drwxrws---+ 944 administrator dling    0 Nov  7 12:20 movies - What does the + in the permissions mean?
[20:49] <soczol> Nach0z: yeah.. I really should have, but I noticed way too late that it was taking so long, and aborting it at that point was not an option (if possible at all) :(
[20:51] <Nach0z> yeah >___>
[20:51] <soczol> Nach0z: guess I'll just keep it running then, and hope for the best; I do have a quite recent backup, but still, would rather not want to go to the trouble to restore it
[20:51] <soczol> I guess rebooting it at this point would probably break it even more
[20:51] <olf-folks> my log shows that amazon was trying to ssh into my server xD
[20:51] <Nach0z> yeah the one thing I've learned in all my server everything, is to make sure that any operations that take more than about a minute to run should be done in tmux
[20:52] <JohnDust> hello everybody
[20:57] <jimgroth> Hey guys. I'm sure what I've done but I can't log in via SSH. It refuses my password that works locally.
[20:57] <jimgroth> *I'm -not- sure. :P
[20:58] <jimgroth> oh, Ubuntu Server 13.04 btw
[21:00] <John20> jimgroth: try to delete ssh folder ( rm .ssh -R)
[21:01] <bekks> John20: How should that help?
[21:02] <zykotick9> John20: that -R is in the wrong place... and probably NOT a great thing to be doing.  jimgroth
[21:02] <jimgroth> thanks but I already noticed the recursive rm. ^^
[21:02] <jimgroth> Always makes me go "hmm"
[21:02] <John20> maybe bad configuration? sorry if i typed something bad
[21:02] <olf-folks> what dose this mean
[21:02] <olf-folks> Nov 14 14:17:01 ubuntu CRON[7206]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[21:02] <Pici> John20: that would remove all of the user's ssh keys, which would be bad.
[21:03] <jimgroth> would matter not on this machine. :P
[21:03] <Pici> olf-folks: it means that one of root's cron job's just ran.
[21:03] <Siper> Hi, I need help installing ubuntu, is it ok to ask?
[21:03] <Pici> Siper: thats what this channel is for.
[21:04] <topper4125> !ask | Siper
[21:04] <Siper> Ah, great. Well I'd like to know whats the easiest way to go about installing ubuntu on an external harddrive. I want it to act like the full OS though.
[21:04] <zykotick9> John20: well the -R at the end does still work (my bad).  I figured it would try looking for a "-R" to remove.
[21:05] <Siper> I'm on a windows OS atm.
[21:05] <John20> zykotick9: Maybe to move .ssh to .sshbackup would be better, but that was my quick and dirty idea.^^
[21:05] <zykotick9> John20: for sure!
[21:08] <ikonia>
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Siper, A external will run slow a bit chunky, a usb flash would run better.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Siper, However ai neglected to ask is this a usb2 or usb3?
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> I*
[21:10] <Siper> I only have usb 2 on this laptop sadly
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Di you understand the general speed reading/writing differences between a internal and external
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Do*
[21:11] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[21:11] <Siper> Yes I do
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Siper, A virtual install would be better, however ubuntu in a virtual is a bit slow as well.
[21:12] <bekks> wilee-nilee: For me, it isnt.
[21:12] <olf-folks> if i wanted to format/reinstall but wanted to keep my openbox/conky/terminator/etc configuration
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Cool, I suppose there are variables in this, just trying to help.
[21:13] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Yeah, no offense meant :)
[21:14] <Siper> well I don't want to partition the internal drive, and computer has 32bit windows but supports 64 bit.. I thought maybe installing ubuntu on an external drive to get bit more performance out of my computer
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> bekks, No problem any input is good. ;)
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Is this a oem windows?
[21:14] <olf-folks> can i just copy my home dir to an exthd, reinstall then paste it back in?
[21:14] <Siper> oem?
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Original Manufacturer Install.
[21:15] <Siper> I'm not sure but it's capping out ram at 3gb
[21:15] <edoceo> which package has `scp` command?  Some reason it's on on my system :(
[21:16] <bekks> Siper: 32bit windows have an unusable RAM window of about 768M above 3GB.
[21:16] <zykotick9> edoceo: should be openssh-client
[21:16] <Siper> Yeah, :s
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Siper, I have a toshiba laptop with 3 gigs ram a dual core about 5 yeras old, I have W8.1 64 bit and 3 Linux on it with a SSD it runs pretty fast, however I don't overdrive its use.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> all installs are 64 bit
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> ls
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> wc :P
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Siper, What I am wondering is can you reinstall the windows as a 64 bit and dual boot the ubuntu, or really for best use the ubuntu just dualbooted now, it's rather easy if you have the room.
[21:18] <Siper_> Ah darnit, tripped on my adapter
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, The external install is just using the manual install from the live cd/usb we can help you do it, but just wondering if that is really your bets option is all.
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> best*
[21:20] <Siper_> Well I think it's my only option right now
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, In what way?
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Siper_, It may just be a waste of time, we see people having problems here is all.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> THe 32 bit Ubuntu has pae kernels that will use all 3 gigs as well now
[21:25] <Siper> My laptop supports 64 bit
[21:25] <moppy> 32 or 64 gb ram with 32 bit pae i think : the same as windows servers
[21:25] <Siper> ah sorry
[21:25] <moppy> of course you still have the process limit
[21:26] <moppy> that's just total memory
[21:26] <moppy> (Someone was saying 32 bit windows was limited to 4GB, that's not actually true: it only applies to desktop versions of windows)
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Siper, Yes you said that, how is that causing you to want a external, it will not make better use or run better in realtion to the computer as a 64 bit or a external
[21:27] <bekks> moppy: Its not true at all, since using PAE works on Desktop versions too.
[21:28] <FlashSoul> If you activate it only. It's not on by default. I believe it's nly available for vista+ too.
[21:28] <moppy> bekks, windows desktop OS has PAE yes, but they programmed in an artifical memory cap (probably to make people upgrade). Win servers dont have that cap)
[21:28] <bekks> FlashSoul: Yes.
[21:28] <moppy> Siper, i dont see any advantage to 64 bit for you at the moment
[21:28] <bekks> moppy: 32bit versions of Windows Servers do have the same gap.
[21:29] <Siper_> I see, I got your last message wilee-nilee, and moppy.
[21:29] <Siper_> I think I'll skip on the idea then
[21:29] <moppy> bekks, no they dont: they can address 32+ GB. You're welcome to check their specs if you wish
[21:29] <Siper_> thanks!
[21:29] <bekks> Siper: When having 64bit hw, using 64bit OS is the way to go.
[21:29] <bekks> moppy: I do know them, thats why I said "no" ;)
[21:30] <moppy> well i can't parse your current statements as they seem contradictory :)
[21:30] <moppy> maybe i am just dumb
[21:30] <funky> how many giga average ubuntu server takes?
[21:30] <moppy> funky on disk?
[21:30] <funky> yes
[21:30] <moppy> funky, i did a minium install on an 8GB VM and it had 4.5 free after installing
[21:30] <funky> I am copying entire server and it shows 128 TB so far
[21:30] <funky> like wtf
[21:30] <funky> :)
[21:30] <moppy> funky, your mileage may vary
[21:31] <funky> I think its 3rd party tool bug
[21:31] <bekks> FlashSoul: Then leave out /proc/kmem ;)
[21:31] <funky> it would bo be able to mirror 128 TB in 3 min anyway
[21:31] <funky> not
[21:34] <LOvER> hi people
[21:36] <reisio> hi, lover
[21:36] <LOvER> hi reisio
[21:36] <LOvER> i m new to this   haa XD
[21:37] <reisio> :)
[21:37] <LOvER> so anyone knows how to crack mikrotik networks ?
[21:37] <Pici> LOvER: you're in the wrong place for that.
[21:38] <LOvER> so what is the right place   ?
[21:38] <Pici> LOvER: nowhere on freenode.
[21:38] <LOvER> and what is the main goal of this chatting app?
[21:38] <Pici> LOvER: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> heh not with love that's for sure
[21:38] <LOvER> omFg    hehe   lmao
[21:39] <LOvER> well i am using xubuntu
[21:39] <Pici> !illegal | LOvER
[21:39] <LOvER> :v
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> mmmm a swearing cracker
[21:40] <LOvER> the hell is that ..      ok i am out   alot of places there how to crack any network     . that is the ideia  of linux in general    craaaaaaaaacking
[21:40] <LOvER> PEACE
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> is possible to install ubuntu without debian?
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> ups
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> i mean without gnome
[21:40] <SamSagaZ> :D
[21:41] <funky> (11:40:35 PM) LOvER: the hell is that ..      ok i am out   alot of places there how to crack any network     . that is the ideia  of linux in general    craaaaaaaaacking
[21:41] <funky> lol
[21:41] <SamSagaZ> hehe
[21:41] <xangua> SamSagaZ: xubuntu, kubuntu
[21:41] <CormacMcFionn> least he got the cracking term right :P
[21:41] <SamSagaZ> xangua: thanks!
[21:41] <funky> I like hacking too :)
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, gnome underlies unity and several of the other desktops, you are not actually using it directly unless you install the shell.
[21:42]  * jimgroth scrolls back up. Sounds like I missed some drama. ^^
[21:42] <funky> chinese are ok at cracking aka copy cats :)
[21:42] <SamSagaZ> dont want to get space wasted.
[21:42] <SamSagaZ> xubuntu packages are the same as ubuntu?
[21:43] <jimgroth> Are you looking for a tiny ubuntu install or what?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, I doubt you know at all what your doing and have a false goal to be honest.
[21:43] <reisio> xubuntu is ubuntu with Xfce installed by default
[21:43] <Pici> SamSagaZ: it provides xfce instead of gnome/unity.
[21:43] <SamSagaZ> thanks guys
[21:43] <SamSagaZ> will install xubuntu then!
[21:44] <jimgroth> I kind of like lubuntu. Feels... petite.
[21:44] <wilee-nilee>  a net install is t5he smallest if you build the desktop
[21:44] <SamSagaZ> yeah, will use net install
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> hi, can I ask about an issue I'm having with Lubuntu in here?  Ubuntu can see my one windows share just fine, but I get "failed to mount windows share" on the Lubuntu I just installed on my laptop.
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> I installed Samba, thought that might the problem, still nothing
[21:45] <PaRaD0xx> not sure I have it configured correctly
[21:46] <jimgroth> I think Samba is installed together with lubuntu
[21:46] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: did it tell you to run "dmesg | tail" to get more info on the error?
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> no, it did not
[21:48] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: can you do so?
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the shares, just can't connect
[21:48] <PaRaD0xx> ok
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> SamSagaZ, So with the net install you can build a simple de or use a really light one.
[21:48] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: make sure smbfs and smbclient are installed. you can use smbclient to connect CLI style to see if there's an issue there
[21:50] <PaRaD0xx> hmm..dont' see anything in the dmesg...ofc, not sure what to look for, very new at this
[21:51] <DeepBlue>  what ia the package name of gnome classic and gnome shell?
[21:51] <PaRaD0xx> k, smbclient installed
[21:52] <xangua> !nounity | DeepBlue
[21:52] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: no problem, is your windows share setup as requiring user+pass?
[21:52] <daftykins> also which Windows
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> no, it is not
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> XP
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> Ubuntu sees it fine, can access everything fine
[21:53] <PaRaD0xx> but Lubuntu can't
[21:54] <PaRaD0xx> I can see the shared drives, but can't open them to view contents
[21:55] <CormacMcFionn> try mounting them in fstab?
[21:55]  * CormacMcFionn had to do that in ubuntu
[21:55] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: just guest access then?
[21:55] <PaRaD0xx> how?  very new to *nix ;)
[21:55] <daftykins> CormacMcFionn: unnecessary
[21:56] <PaRaD0xx> well, no pass, I think
[21:56] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: one sec
[21:57] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ok so in a terminal, run "smbclient //IP of your windows box/sharename"
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> on Ubuntu on this machine atm
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> laptop is open with 13.10 Lubuntu
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> and an old xp desktop
[21:57] <CormacMcFionn> Well if PaRaD0xx wants to try that way its : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> ok
[21:57] <PaRaD0xx> let me try
[21:58] <daftykins> CormacMcFionn: no point faffing with config file editing to establish a permanent mount when we just need to test it first
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> errors
[21:58]  * CormacMcFionn nods
[21:58] <daftykins> what does it say?
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> last line is "nt status bad network name"
[21:58] <shambat> I am trying Ubuntu 12.04 on a live usb, and I'm getting a reboot loop after I choose "Try Ubuntu without installing" or "Install Ubuntu" ... I cant make a selection that doesnt cause a reboot ... any help?
[21:58] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: you used the IP address not the computer name, yes?
[21:58] <PaRaD0xx> right
[21:59] <daftykins> are you sure it's correct?
[21:59] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[21:59] <PaRaD0xx> let me try again
[21:59] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: i'm expecting a pretty standard 192.168.x.x subnet
[21:59] <paul__> ?
[21:59] <dougl> my kubuntu 13.10 keeps giving me errors regarding 2 packages that aren't installed and cannot be removed - is there anyone that can help me with the output, I cannot figer out what to google for to fix it
[21:59] <dougl> the errors are from apt-get dist-upgrade.
[22:00] <paul__> oops, sorry
[22:00] <dougl> one is for grub and theother is...
[22:00] <paul__> All: how do I get a list of commands?  /help doesn't seem to do anyting.
[22:00] <daftykins> dougl: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to show what's up?
[22:00] <daftykins> paul__: join #freenode for IRC help
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> ok...wait..I had to use "
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> smbclient "//192.168.x.x./my share name"
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> e.g.
[22:00] <PaRaD0xx> that worked
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> via CLI
[22:01] <paul__> daftykins: thanks
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> progress I think? :)
[22:01] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: excellent, so "ls" shows the contents?
[22:01] <PaRaD0xx> daftykins: yes
[22:02] <snollux> What's the convention for making / installing README files from a packae?
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> but nothing via the file manager/gui
[22:02] <snollux> *package?
[22:02] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: good stuff, type 'exit' to return to the normal prompt.
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> done
[22:02] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: do you want to have this share accessible from the laptop each time you boot+login?
[22:02] <PaRaD0xx> yes
[22:03] <John20> Which ubuntu compatible Radeon card should I take? Should be good in energy consumpent, found 7850 yet, any other ideas?
[22:03] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ok, there'll be a series of fun commands to get it permanently setup - but i'll just have a quick google to check that there isn't a better graphical way in Lubuntu, one sec
[22:03] <John20> Should have 2GB and about max 150 euros
[22:03] <SamSagaZ> speed/performance of debian/ubuntu/xubuntu are the same?
[22:03] <PaRaD0xx> ok, thanks daftykins
[22:04] <dougl> daftykins, I can remember how to do that... give me a sec, and thanks.
[22:04]  * CormacMcFionn hasnt tried lubuntu, just Xubuntu and Ubuntu
[22:05] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ah-ha check out this link. it recommends installing the packages "samba-common" and "fuse-utils" which may allow the Lubuntu file manager to let you browse onto your Windows PC - i can't be sure if you'll need to reboot first: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249678/how-to-access-samba-shares-in-lubuntu-12-10
[22:05] <eyfour> SamSagaZ: No. They all run different desktop environments, and thus perform differently.
[22:05] <PaRaD0xx> ok, i'll check that out and let you know how it goes ;)
[22:05] <CormacMcFionn> SamSagaZ: No, Xubuntu is a min resorces version of ubuntu, Ubuntu is the full tilt, and debian is what is the root distro of thoes two each behave differently
[22:05] <PaRaD0xx> thanks
[22:06] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: oh and if it still causes trouble, try recreating a share without spaces in the name :)
[22:06] <SamSagaZ> ok.
[22:07] <CormacMcFionn> SamSagaZ: Think Debian, Ubuntu then tweaks and changes Debian, Xubuntu takes Ubuntu, yanks out Unity, puts on XFCE
[22:07] <reisio> 'Xfce'
[22:08] <FlashSoul> Hello. If anyone could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. My story is a bit long so I wrote it there. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6422985/
[22:09] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[22:09] <PaRaD0xx> unable to locate package fuse-utils
[22:09] <dougl> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/jJaX0ACG is the source of my confusion... anyone else wanna help me figer out the output of apt-get dist-upgrade on my 13.10 install I'd appreciate it.
[22:09] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: ah well perhaps it isn't needed
[22:09] <Asterisk_> i am trying to do an install of ubuntu 12.04. I keep getting failed to execute grub-install on /dev/sdb. which log file do I consult to find out why
[22:10] <PaRaD0xx> rebooting it
[22:11] <daftykins> dougl: hrmm it's not very descriptive is it? can you pastebin the output of "tail /var/log/dpkg.log" ?
[22:11] <PaRaD0xx> see if that does anything
[22:11] <randolph`> FlashSoul: I'm not really sure, but I had a similar problem and loaded into a live distro and downloaded the tool boot-repair. It worked for me. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:12] <PaRaD0xx> hrm, nothin
[22:12] <PaRaD0xx> still nothin daftykins
[22:12] <daftykins> PaRaD0xx: is that with a share without spaces in the name too?
[22:12] <swizgard> hey. since when is /etc/init.d/cups stop not working anymore but one has to use service cups stop?
[22:13] <FlashSoul> randolph` : I did the same. It just made things worse, actually. You can read it in the link I gave.
[22:13] <schultza> How do I get Gnome-Terminal to show what program or directory I'm in? Even if I ssh to another computer?
[22:13] <daftykins> dougl: actually i found a relevant askubuntu.com page - suggesting to just remove the package grub-efi-amd64-signed then re-run your dist-upgrade
[22:13] <SamSagaZ> thanks CormacMcFionn
[22:13] <CormacMcFionn> np
[22:13] <reisio> swizgard: you've been _supposed_ to use service for quite some time now
[22:13] <daftykins> schultza: directory? pwd
[22:13] <reisio> swizgard: since Ubuntu 6.10, probably