[05:43] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:44] <kitsuneofdoom> BlueKnight: a more recent repository?
[05:44] <BlueKnight> nod - repository = directory of ubuntu programs that it searches for installs...
[05:44] <kitsuneofdoom> BlueKnight: I know. But what repository
[05:44] <bulmer> klobster pre feisty like in dapper uses /etc/inittab
[05:45] <BlueKnight> thats where i'm scratching my head kitsune :(
[05:45] <BlueKnight> asking the friend that helped me out with that if he remembers
[05:45] <levander> Is each of the versions of Ubuntu, e.g. Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, are they called distributions, or are they just called releases?
[05:45] <TiMiDo> !seen seveas
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen seveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Simply_Puzzled> releases levander
[05:45] <Simply_Puzzled> Redhat and Ubuntu are seperate distros
[05:46] <Simply_Puzzled> Dapper and Edgy are different releases
[05:46] <levander> Simply_Puzzled: That's what I thought, I've seen it used the other way recently though.
[05:46] <dissection> Do you guys use "sudo alacarte" or "alacarte" to edit menus?
[05:46] <willis_> alacarte  would edit the users menus, leaving the others users alone. I would belive
[05:46] <levander> Simply_Puzzled: There should be an online dictionary that acts as an authority on some of this techno-jargon.  You could have a Java one, a Linux one, etc..
[05:46] <willis_> Not sure what sudo alacarte would do.. edit roots i am guessing..
[05:46] <kitsuneofdoom> BlueKnight: found it
[05:47] <Simply_Puzzled> Levander, the info is there, just find it
[05:47] <levander> Simply_Puzzled: it'd be easier in a formal dictionary, i guess i'm more just thinking about writing one than anything else (the software for it, not the dictionary contents)
[05:47] <BlueKnight> so, to throw out some random chat, any vista lovers in the house? :D
[05:47] <willis_> BlueKnight,  they are all in #insane
[05:48] <CVD> vista slow
[05:48] <willis_> vista worse then slow.. :)
[05:48] <BlueKnight> hehe
[05:48] <cupps> Is there a channel to ask for help with World of Warcraft and Wine? Or can I ask in here?
[05:48] <nickrud> vista ok, just not good enough
[05:48] <levander> It actually would be nice to have a #vista channel on Freenode, if you could find a way to keep out all the masses of clueless end users.
[05:48] <MilitantPotato> Hey my CD-ROM wont eject either manualy or through linux
[05:48] <willis_> cupps,  #wine, or the various wine forums would be the best i belive
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> levander, make it
[05:48] <axcel461> cupps, what processor do you have?
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:49] <willis_> MilitantPotato,  try eject from the command line.
[05:49] <CVD> any way to see all my comments?
[05:49] <nickrud> levander, vista god :)
[05:49] <Simply_Puzzled> how about a #vista non-losers channel?
[05:49] <MilitantPotato> willis_: whats the command?
[05:49] <dissection> Anyone? Surely someone here edits their menus
[05:49] <regeya> MilitantPotato: or go digging for a paperclip.
[05:49] <Simply_Puzzled> Of course, no one would think "I'm a loser I should stay out"
[05:49] <CVD> yep
[05:49] <regeya> MilitantPotato: I'm assuming of course that there's a small hole on the front panel of your drive.
[05:49] <levander> nickrud: ?
[05:49] <CVD> right click in the applications
[05:49] <EADG> MilitantPotato: eject
[05:49] <CVD> thats me
[05:49] <nickrud> levander, I missed the # in #vista
[05:49] <MilitantPotato> I can reboot to fix it, but I'd rather not have to use a clip every time it does this :D
[05:50] <willis_> MilitantPotato,  'eject' :)
[05:50] <cupps> axcel461 Intel P4, why?
[05:50] <MilitantPotato> eject does nothing
[05:50] <CVD> amd or intel?
[05:50] <willis_> MilitantPotato,  not even an error message?
[05:50] <axcel461> You might be able to use vmware Server
[05:50] <MilitantPotato> nope
[05:50] <nickrud> dissection, it would edit your local menu, but write as root, maybe causing issues (I hate having root owned files in home)
[05:50] <CVD> PR here?
[05:50] <MilitantPotato> just starts a new command prompt
[05:50] <axcel461> I can boot my windows partition from it and play starcraft
[05:50] <Some_Person> What's gonna be new in Gusty Gibbon?
[05:50] <willis_> Some_Person,  about everything. :)
[05:50] <levander> MilitantPotato: You gave eject an argument as the device file to eject?  E.g., "eject <device name>"
[05:51] <CVD> compiz fusioz?
[05:51] <Some_Person> willis_: like...?
[05:51] <axcel461> Gutsy Gibbon will have compiz-fusion
[05:51] <dissection> nickrud: So I should use sudo or not?
[05:51] <willis_> !gutsy
[05:51] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <nickrud> dissection, no
[05:51] <Some_Person> compiz, i know of, but what is compiz-fusion?
[05:51] <CVD> wao, idont even have a 3d card, so new for me
[05:51] <nickrud> dissection, personally I just right click the menu bar, don't even call from the terminal
[05:51] <CVD> nothing new for me
[05:52] <dissection> nickrud: I did that but it doesn't run
[05:52] <axcel461> compiz-fusion is beryl and compiz back together again
[05:52] <regeya> hey, I've had that happen too, MilitantPotato.  If you find a solution make sure to post it to the forums.  on mine sometimes a burn will go bad, then the drive door will be locked.  no amount of eject, trying to eject via hdparm, nothing seems to work other than forcing the drive open with a paperclip or reboot.  however, on mine, the 'eject' command hangs for about 5 minutes before bravely surrendering, and no amount of tryin
[05:52] <cupps> How do I get the proper drivers for an old, old ATI card in Ubuntu? I've been trying all day with no success.
[05:52] <axcel461> Right now.... SLOW
[05:52] <nickrud> dissection, ok
[05:52] <Some_Person> that may or may not be good for me, i get the same bug in beryl and compiz with the titlebars
[05:52] <c_lisp> anybody know how to add ubuntu right click permanent delete for files?
[05:52] <regeya> http://www.everex.com/gc3502/index.htm <- sure, it's 'green' but it runs windows...oh well.  and I never thought of being 'green' when I bought via; I thought 'cheap cheap cheap'
[05:53] <BlueKnight> i feel you cupps - should be out there... they even have drivers for my 3dfx voodoo3 out there... have yet to get them yet though
[05:53] <MilitantPotato> reg, I didn't add a param to eject, so i'm not sure if it will hang or not
[05:53] <Some_Person> i hope gusty gets rid of the bug
[05:53] <axcel461> KDE offers transparent window borders without the slowdown
[05:53] <dissection> nickrud: I checked .config/menus and its owned by reoot and settings.menu and applications.menu are read only. When I typed alacarte (without sudo) in terminal, I get an error. Does everyone else have menus directory as read only and owned by root?
[05:53] <dissection> *root
[05:53] <cupps> Everytime I start WoW I get "Unable to start 3d acceleration", but I can't seem to update my video drivers... argh.
[05:53] <MilitantPotato> How do you get a device name for the eject command?
[05:53] <nickrud> c_lisp, run gconf-editor, and navigate to apps/nautilus/preferences/enable_delete
[05:54] <willis_> MilitantPotato,  try /dev/cdrom
[05:54] <CVD> 100 time, way to see all my comments?
[05:55] <willis_> CVD,   i dont think anyone knows what you mean by that.
[05:55] <CVD> i want to see all my comments witout to scroll
[05:55] <Some_Person> wait, is it gutsy or gusty? i was under the impression that it was gusty
[05:55] <axcel461> Gutsy
[05:55] <thoreauputic> gutsy
[05:55] <willis_> CVD,   comments? where are you talking about?
[05:55] <regeya> CVD I'm not sure anyone knows what you're on about
[05:56] <MilitantPotato> /dev/cdrom did nothing
[05:56] <winndixie> hey guys
[05:56] <nickrud> dissection, no. they should not be. all mine are owned by me and 644 for permissions
[05:56] <CVD> this is a comment
[05:56] <winndixie> where can i download pornographic images from the internet
[05:56] <CVD> and another cooment
[05:56] <c_lisp> thanks
[05:56] <MilitantPotato> winndixie: www.google.com
[05:56] <thoreauputic> CVD: in irssi ? in xchat?
[05:56] <winndixie> ok
[05:56] <willis_> CVD,  thats not our definition of comment. :)
[05:56] <winndixie> thx
[05:56] <dormedas> nomasteryoda, no luck
[05:56] <willis_> #this is a comment, it begins with a # in some sort of source/config file :)
[05:57] <CVD> o ok xchar
[05:57] <nickrud> lol
[05:57] <regeya> o rly
[05:57] <thoreauputic> CVD: you could try /lastlog <nickname-here>
[05:57] <dormedas> nomasteryoda: oddly enough, when i lspci -v 'd ... the NVIDIA card showed up, and i got the BusID, but it was listed as an AGP 8x, which mine is a PCI
[05:57] <CVD> ok let me try
[05:58] <willis_> 'do, or do not, there is no try' :)
[05:58] <dormedas> nomasteryoda: confused me to heck :P
[05:58] <CVD> Yeah !!!!! thanks
[05:58] <bluebanana> hi. i need to use the Internet Explorer browser for a website. (I've tried switching user agents in Firefox via add-on, but it doesn't work).. Is there a IE for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <CVD> thoreau
[05:58] <thoreauputic> CVD:  :-)
[05:58] <regeya> CVD we're all going to need a LOT more information before we can help you there...oh right xchat...heh, that's crazy.
[05:58] <Some_Person> bluebanana: yes, through wine
[05:58] <winndixie> bluebanana: you can use qemu or vmware
[05:58] <bluebanana> no deb, Some_Person ?
[05:58] <regeya> rofflecopters:  /LASTLOG would print 3321 lines. If you really want to print all these lines use -force option.
[05:59] <bluebanana> nothing in repo, winndixie ?
[05:59] <Some_Person> bluebanana: there is no Internet Explorer for Linux, however you can run IE in WINE
[05:59] <bluebanana> Some_Person, how do i do that?
[05:59] <winndixie> wine's support for IE is limited
[05:59] <thoreauputic> regeya:  /lastlog <nick> just prints the last lot of stuff from that nick
[05:59] <BlueKnight> what is the "$" for before a command
[05:59] <Some_Person> bluebanana: the easiest way to install it is to install WINE from the repositories
[05:59] <willis_> bluebanana,  normally thats the bash prompt.
[06:00] <bluebanana> Some_Person, after i install WINE, what next?
[06:00] <Some_Person> bluebanana: and then install wine-doors (not sure if its in the repositories)
[06:00] <winndixie> Some_Person: what version of IE did you use wine with?
[06:00] <regeya> whoa.
[06:00] <Some_Person> winndixie: ie6
[06:00] <winndixie> and it worked perfectly?
[06:00] <axcel461> NOT under vmware server. You can boot your windows partition from vmware
[06:00] <bluebanana> Some_Person, winndixie : what do you think of http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer
[06:00] <levander> Does IE7 run in WINE?
[06:00] <Some_Person> bluebanana: and then open wine-doors, and it'll let you install it
[06:00] <Some_Person> levander: no
[06:00] <levander> Damn.
[06:00] <r00723r0> what is the oss mixer?
[06:01] <willis_> ie7 - makes me REALLy shudder...
[06:01] <levander> r00723r0: It's a sound system, like alsa.
[06:01] <xoRock> Some_Person, what is winedoor?
[06:01] <r00723r0> no
[06:01] <r00723r0> i mean
[06:01] <axcel461> OSS mixer is the volume control for the oss sound driver
[06:01] <r00723r0> like alsamixer
[06:01] <levander> r00723r0: check wikipedia maybe for more
[06:01] <r00723r0> how do i use the mixer
[06:01] <levander> r00723r0: Just open the ui, it's obvious.
[06:01] <r00723r0> what ui?
[06:01] <r00723r0> the volume control?
[06:01] <Some_Person> xorock: wine-doors is a gui for wine that lets you easily install a few windows programs from a repository
[06:02] <r00723r0> it doesn't show gain
[06:02] <r00723r0> i need to see gain
[06:02] <winndixie> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=469
[06:02] <winndixie> look at the list of known bugs for ie6/Wine
[06:02] <winndixie> that's bullshit
[06:02] <Amaranth> For the record: running 'sudo alacarte' does nothing but break your menus
[06:02] <cupps> How can I restore Ubuntu's default ATI driver and settings?
[06:02] <xoRock> Some_Person,  didn't know that, thx
[06:02] <winndixie> just use vmware or a system emulator
[06:02] <Amaranth> !ohmy | winndixie
[06:02] <ubotu> winndixie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:02] <crimsun> add it.  secondary-click, Open Volume Control, Edit, Preferences
[06:02] <winndixie> sorry
[06:02] <thoreauputic> r00723r0: try using alsamixer in a terminal
[06:02] <CVD> hey i run the iftop and i have this,  by2msg2233105.phx.gbl , jobe.wgops.com  ,cs9.msg.dcn.yahoo.com  what are they?
[06:03] <r00723r0> oh wow
[06:03] <nw> hola
[06:03] <r00723r0> the OSS mixer
[06:03] <r00723r0> not the alsa mixer
[06:03] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out with an audio passthrough issue?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> CVD: people you re connected to
[06:03] <Some_Person> winndixie: IE6 is a lot easier to get running with wine-doors
[06:03] <Nutubuntu> !enter
[06:03] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:03] <xen> hmmm
[06:03] <phil_pi> cupps: there's a command to restore xorg.conf to its defaults
[06:03] <dormedas> hello nomasteryoda?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> CVD: URLs you are connecte to
[06:03] <xen> ubuntu is pretty nice, I must say
[06:03] <jd_> anyone know of ao good peer to peer file sharing program
[06:03] <r00723r0> gtk-gnutella
[06:04] <cupps> phil_pi Will that restore it to the default video drivers for my ati card?
[06:04] <levander> jd_: amule
[06:04] <MilitantPotato> argh this CD-ROM thing is driving me mad.
[06:04] <r00723r0> thoreauputic: ^^
[06:04] <winndixie> Some_Person: if you say so.. but its relatively easy to set up a compelte windows system under a system emulator
[06:04] <xen> I do have a question regarding torrents on ubuntu though
[06:04] <jd_> ty levander
[06:04] <r00723r0> thoreauputic: the OSS mixer, not the ALSA mixer
[06:04] <Some_Person> winndixie: yes, but you end up having to use a lot more disk space and it takes a long time to install
[06:04] <xen> I wasn't having a problem with torrent speeds until I started messing with the firewall packages
[06:04] <CVD> the only thing i have righnt know is the xchat no more
[06:05] <thoreauputic> r00723r0: oh OK - why are you using OSS ? I haven't followed the whole convo, obviously
[06:05] <r00723r0> thoreauputic: i'm not, other programs are
[06:05] <xen> I'm wandering how me ports got blocked
[06:05] <Some_Person> winndixie: not to mention the slow speed
[06:05] <CVD> so how  i connected to them
[06:05] <ferronica> how to check SFV for particular application
[06:05] <xen> can anyone see me?
[06:05] <xen> hello?
[06:05] <willis_> xen,  yes.
[06:05] <lazellama> hi
[06:05] <xen> k
[06:05] <jetscreamer> no
[06:05] <thoreauputic> CVD: browser, IRC, mail fetch - lots of possibilities
[06:06] <xen> well I'm wondering how to get my torrents moving faster
[06:06] <dormedas> hello, greywhind or nomasteryoda?
[06:06] <CVD> only i have xchat
[06:06] <CVD> no more
[06:06] <xen> I'm not sure what happened
[06:06] <Nutubuntu> CVD the phx.gbl thing looks like an msn bot, if google searches are to be believed
[06:06] <winndixie> Some_Person: the slow speed? lol
[06:06] <alex20> is ubuntu is so easy to use, why is there so many people aksing for help
[06:06] <xen> I have firestarter firewall turned off and no speed increase
[06:06] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me with a sound input issue, my sound works but I have no audio input
[06:06] <xen> ubuntu is the shit man
[06:06] <Some_Person> xen: use peerguardian to block bad ip's
[06:06] <xen> get it
[06:06] <thoreauputic> CVD: then iftop is showing IRC - but also probably ntp updates, mail being fetched etc
[06:06] <alex20> if ubuntu is so EASY TO USE, WHY IS THERE SO MANY QUESTIONS
[06:06] <xen> well I don't think it's bad ip's
[06:07] <winndixie> i run windows 2003 under VBox with 512MB ram and its as responsive as a 900mhz system
[06:07] <MilitantPotato> Wooooo!!!
[06:07] <Amaranth> xen: you need to configure your router
[06:07] <MilitantPotato> I fixed my CD-ROM
[06:07] <xen> there aren't
[06:07] <Some_Person> xen: just try it, heres the link: http://methpilot.ath.cx/files/peerguardnf-1.5beta.i386.deb
[06:07] <MilitantPotato> Who was having CD-ROM issues?
[06:07] <FFForever> how do i make a copy of my cd?
[06:07] <xen> yeah I don't have a router
[06:07] <Amaranth> alex20: because some people do odd things :)
[06:07] <Some_Person> xen: it always increases the speed somewhat for me
[06:07] <Amaranth> xen: then your ISP is blocking ports
[06:07] <winndixie> Some_Person: and when did web browsing become so resource intensive?
[06:07] <BlueKnight> people even have questions with windows alex20
[06:07] <BlueKnight> lots of questions
[06:07] <winndixie> quit being an ass
[06:07] <dormedas> nomasteryoda, ill try something I didnt notice before but later
[06:07] <thoreauputic> alex20: because people are used to windows :)
[06:07] <Amaranth> !ohmy | winndixie
[06:07] <ubotu> winndixie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:07] <xen> what I'm afraid of is that I installed some sort of firewall and it's running in the background
[06:07] <CitizenKane> there anyone that could help me get wireless working in 2.6.22?
[06:07] <FFForever> !iso
[06:07] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:08] <Some_Person> xen: you might also want to try making sure port forwarding is set up on your router
[06:08] <Amaranth> CitizenKane: #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <CVD> jobe.wgops.com if apache?
[06:08] <CVD> test?
[06:08] <FFForever> how do i make an iso? from a cd?
[06:08] <CitizenKane> Amaranth, thanks
[06:08] <Some_Person> winndixie: what if you want to watch a video?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: an ass is a donkey by the way :) Not necessarily what you are thinking...
[06:08] <levander> Some_Person: winndixie left
[06:08] <Some_Person> so he did
[06:08] <levander> thoreauputic: lol, i'm sure that's what he meant
[06:08] <MilitantPotato> regeya: Hey, type mount /dev/cdrom to fix the CD-ROM not ejecting
[06:09] <CVD> obe.wgops.com is apache test?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> levander: once upon a time, that's all it ment :)
[06:09] <thoreauputic> *meant
[06:09] <Talcite> hey guys, I can't get my mic working in Ubuntu. ALSA is giving me on hell of a time.
[06:09] <levander> thoreauputic: It is true he didn't append the syllable "hole", you have to give him credit for that.
[06:09] <Talcite> I've compiled the module, and also installed the one in the repos
[06:10] <LiveUSB> Does anyone know how to set a password for a syslinux entry, I have a bootable USB drive that I need to "Quasi Protect".
[06:10] <thoreauputic> levander: :)
[06:10] <xen> don't think of this as a question... but more of a sugquestion. Can anyone explain a shell to me?
[06:10] <Talcite> is there any way to make it work?
[06:10] <Some_Person> Talcite: is it enabled? is the volume all the way down? make sure
[06:10] <BlueKnight> there is software you can get to password lock usb drives
[06:10] <Nutubuntu> CVD sure looks like it.
[06:10] <Talcite> Some_Person: yup, the basic stuff is all done
[06:10] <xen> what's a shell in a nutshell?
[06:10] <BlueKnight> not sure if its os specific, cuz i only know of them for windows liveusb
[06:10] <dormedas> ello nomasteryoda? wow they left already
[06:10] <levander> xen: A shell is just the program that presents a command line to you.  It's where you type commands like "ls" and "cat".
[06:10] <nico____> Hi...I am looking for some help with Qt
[06:10] <MilitantPotato> regeya: are ya there?
[06:10] <Talcite> Some_Person, I can't even test the ALSA sound. It gives me that unable to access blah blah error
[06:11] <willis_> !shell
[06:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:11] <Some_Person> Talcite: so you have no sound?
[06:11] <xen> ok then why would anyone want to make a "shell"?
[06:11] <xen> what's the point of that?
[06:11] <Talcite> Some_Person: I'm using OSS at the moment, but mic is no good
[06:11] <willis_> xen,  theres a dozen different shells you can use.
[06:11] <Some_Person> Talcite: what is your sound card?
[06:11] <LiveUSB> BlueKnight I know, But I need a boot password with syslinux. has to be this way. I know it can be done... I'm looking at how in the readme.
[06:11] <willis_> shell takes the commands you type, does other things.. and gives back info..
[06:11] <levander> xen: People make shells to provide users with the ability to enter commands.
[06:11] <Talcite> Some_Person: STAC 9221D
[06:11] <willis_> !info fish
[06:11] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22.1-2 (feisty), package size 680 kB, installed size 2760 kB
[06:11] <willis_> !info csh
[06:11] <ubotu> csh: Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060813-1 (feisty), package size 238 kB, installed size 384 kB
[06:12] <xen> ah that makes a bit more sense
[06:12] <LususX> xen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computing)
[06:12] <Talcite> Some_Person: it's considered under the Intel HDA codec
[06:12] <willis_> I sort of Like the Fish Shell. :)
[06:12] <Talcite> Some_Person: but I find that a solution that applies to one doesn't apply to all
[06:12] <CVD> i gonna have problems if a disable the system communication bus (dbus) service?
[06:12] <xen> thanks normally I do wiki or google but occasionaly I like to try other sources
[06:12] <Talcite> CVD: yes
[06:12] <xen> like dare I say "a person"
[06:13] <Talcite> CVD: You need that for alot of things, like the wireless front-end
[06:13] <Nutubuntu> o_0 xen
[06:13] <makaira> I need to know how to downgrade my WINE installation. Anybody have any ideas?
[06:13] <wehttamb_> does anyone know if the MSI NOTEBOOK S430-006AU works well with ubuntu
[06:13] <CVD> ok
[06:13] <dormedas> omfg, I need helps here nomasteryoda!
[06:13] <Talcite> CVD: why do you want to disable it anyways?
[06:13] <makaira> I need to go from 0.9.38 to 0.9.33
[06:13] <bayu> what should i do to compile, i can't compile gcc
[06:13] <bayu>
[06:13] <yellow_chicken> how to echo 3 blank lines on prompt?
[06:13] <levander> makaira: remove and reinstall is my idea
[06:13] <willis_> wehttamb_,  thers several linux laptop web sites that may have reviews/info on them.
[06:13] <Talcite> bayu: err... what's wrong with gcc?
[06:13] <LususX> xen: people in this type of enviroment... get tired of explaining..
[06:13] <makaira> levander: How?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> yellow_chicken: printf "\n\n\n"
[06:13] <wehttamb_> ok
[06:13] <CVD> i dont want services that do nothing
[06:13] <levander> yellow_chicken: "echo ; echo ; echo"
[06:13] <xen> yeah, and we get tired of asking
[06:13] <bayu> i can't compile gcc
[06:14] <wehttamb_> could u give me one
[06:14] <makaira> levander: I used apt-get to install it. what is the command to uninstall? "remove"
[06:14] <levander> makaira: find the package that has the version that you want to install *first*
[06:14] <LususX> xen: yeah :) its a great place to get help
[06:14] <Talcite> CVD: generally speaking, there's not much you can do without in Linux. Ubuntu, there's more you can trim, but realistically it's pretty slim
[06:14] <Some_Person> Talcite: so on alsa, you can't play any sound at all?
[06:14] <makaira> levander: k
[06:14] <CVD> i only surf internet no more
[06:14] <Talcite> CVD: use gentoo if you really want perfectly optimized kernels etc..
[06:14] <levander> makaira: then "sudo apt-get remove <--purge> wine" - if you use --purge, all configuration files will be removed also
[06:14] <Talcite> Some_Person: yeah, no sound with ALSA. I had it working on and off, but it's really on and off
[06:15] <cupps> Can anyone help me with starting 3d acceleration with my ati card? Please? I'm going 4+ hours of trying to run WoW and no luck.
[06:15] <Talcite> bayu: why not get gcc from repos?
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !ati
[06:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:15] <willis_> CVD,  you got such a low end system that you have to worry about such things?
[06:15] <bobby> Can anyone give me 3 good reasons to switch to Ubuntu from OS X as a web developer?
[06:15] <xen> that guy that made zelda and super mario mario is a genius
[06:15] <makaira> levander: can i do a sudo-apt get for an older version of WINE?
[06:15] <dormedas> keep OS X
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !compile > bayu
[06:15] <CVD> a bloodshed for linux?
[06:16] <LususX> i wonder if that bot can teach me how to fly fish...
[06:16] <dormedas> lol install linux along with OS X for fun :D
[06:16] <Talcite> CVD: actually, that's a good point... you shouldn't be using ubuntu if you have that low end of a system. Use xubuntu or something
[06:16] <Nutubuntu> LususX,  if you can put wings on 'em you might could fly 'em
[06:16] <xen> genius inspired by mushrooms
[06:16] <CVD> nop, i just like clean stuff
[06:16] <yellow_chicken> thoreauputic: thanks,  levander echo; echo; is no good inside make file
[06:16] <phil_pi> cupps: 3d accelleration depends on the ATI model
[06:16] <xen> magical mushrooms
[06:16] <LususX> !flyfish
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flyfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <bayu> i want to compile it
[06:16] <Talcite> CVD: well then use gentoo, you can get the whole she-bang custom and clean
[06:16] <cupps> ATI Radeon IGP 340M/440M/540M
[06:16] <Talcite> CVD: be prepared to read though
[06:16] <thoreauputic> yellow_chicken: no problem :)
[06:16] <dormedas> nomasteryoda, where the heck are you?? wow
[06:16] <yellow_chicken> thoreauputic: levander, echo -e "\n\n\n"
[06:16] <phil_pi> old cards use ATI driver with DRI for 3d
[06:17] <CVD> amd64 1.8, 512ram
[06:17] <cupps> phil_pi How do I got about setting that up?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> yellow_chicken: yes that works too ...
[06:17] <CVD> 160gb
[06:17] <xen> how long would it take to crack a wep encryption
[06:17] <CVD> a command to post my specs?
[06:17] <Some_Person> Talcite: I can't find anything on google, forums, or anywhere with this problem
[06:17] <xen> on average
[06:17] <Talcite> bayu: hmm... well... generally speaking no one compiles gcc... Even in gentoo when by a sudden stroke of stupidity, you unmerge gcc, people get a binary
[06:17] <thoreauputic> xen: only a few minutes with the right tools and enough traffic
[06:17] <willis_> CVD,  thats enough system to run a LOT of stuff. :)
[06:18] <bobby> Does Linux have any advantages over OS X for web development?
[06:18] <phil_pi> i tried fglrx with radeon mobility 9100IGP, too old for fglrx to support
[06:18] <xen> hmm
[06:18] <Talcite> Some_Person: yeah, same here =/. Thanks for trying to help though, it was good
[06:18] <thoreauputic> xen: use wpa if possible
[06:18] <Talcite> xen: I've heard 2 minutes
[06:18] <vexati0n> aarrrgh
[06:18] <xen> is there an easy way to find out what chipset your wifi card uses?
[06:18] <phil_pi> lots of forum topics in the ubuntu forum on ati drivers
[06:18] <vexati0n> i've been defeated again by microsoft licensing :/
[06:18] <xen> like the id
[06:18] <Talcite> xen: lspci
[06:18] <xen> xxxx:xxxx
[06:18] <xen> yeah?
[06:18] <BSDaemon> bobby: web development is by nature pretty much cross-platform. You can run Firefox on OSX to test your code
[06:19] <Talcite> xen: yeah
[06:19] <xen> lsusb in my case eh
[06:19] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out with an AC97 sound problem?
[06:19] <crimsun> (lspci -nv)
[06:19] <bryantcaley> hi
[06:19] <xen> I have a linux wusb45g
[06:19] <BlendArt> how would I block ports?
[06:19] <phil_pi> if possible use nvidia
[06:19] <bryantcaley> is ther any way around an "invalid mount option"   ?
[06:19] <LususX> vexati0n: you're in an ubuntu channel.. not M$
[06:19] <Some_Person> Talcite: i suggest you find a way to get your microphone just working on oss
[06:19] <willis_> !firewall
[06:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:19] <bryantcaley> can i force mount a dvd ?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> BlendArt: firestarter (GUI) iptables ( commands)
[06:19] <vexati0n> LususX, yeah i know. but the interpipes directed my packets here for some reason.
[06:19] <CVD> ( /specs )
[06:20] <CVD> ?
[06:20] <BlendArt> thoreauputic: thanks
[06:20] <Talcite> Some_Person: hmm... I'll try heh. Thanks. Oh actually, do you know how to get a usb mic working with linux? for some reason when I recompiled the ALSA drivers, I ended up deleting the USB support =S
[06:20] <LususX> vexati0n: it's much more fun here..
[06:20] <Talcite> CVD: what are you trying to do again?
[06:20] <thoreauputic> BlendArt: unless you are running Internet-facing services you really don't need to
[06:21] <NeoGeo64> I love Gnometris and GNU chess
[06:21] <thoreauputic> BlendArt: in Ubuntu nothing is listening by default
[06:21] <NeoGeo64> i installed ubuntu just so i could play them
[06:21] <phil_pi> cupps: uninstall fglrx from the package manager. worst case if x doesn't start, you're prompted to restore a default xorg.conf that will start x.
[06:21] <xubuntunoob> is there a channel just for xubuntu, or is this channel for all flavors?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> xubuntunoob:  #xubuntu
[06:21] <Talcite> xubuntunoob: there's a channel for xubuntu
[06:21] <wehttamb_> i am looking at this laptop http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-MSI-NOTEBOOK-WITH-FREE-POSTAGE_W0QQitemZ320136994726QQihZ011QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and i would like to know if it would be compatible with ubunt.
[06:21] <xubuntunoob> ok, thanks
[06:21] <CVD> tu post my specs with a command here
[06:21] <bayu> ok , i already install gcc (apt-get install gcc), and when i ./configure, its write
[06:21] <bayu> swig false, phyton false, ruby false.  what is that mean
[06:21] <cupps> phil_pi And then what do I do? After uninstall the other driver?
[06:22] <CVD> xchat
[06:22] <Talcite> CVD: don't do that, you'll get kicked
[06:22] <xen> oh one more question
[06:22] <wehttamb_> does anyone know if it would be compatible?
[06:22] <Talcite> CVD: use a paste-bin
[06:22] <Talcite> CVD: google for one
[06:22] <LiveUSB> anyone good with syslinux booting / Configuring
[06:22] <phil_pi> cupps: restart x
[06:22] <Some_Person> CVD: http://pastebin.ubuntu.nl
[06:22] <xen> whats a good scanning thing for ubuntu
[06:22] <BlendArt> thoreauputic: I found an open ports that I want to close
[06:22] <phil_pi> you'll get the old ati open source settings back
[06:22] <Treeform> hey any one know where keyring stores its files so that i can move it to my other system?
[06:22] <Some_Person> someone should put that link back in the topic
[06:22] <Talcite> bayu: you're missing dependencies
[06:22] <thoreauputic> bayu:  apt-get install build-essential - don't know what those errors might be though
[06:22] <CVD> i dont want to paste something,
[06:23] <Talcite> CVD: I thought you wanted to paste your lspci specs?
[06:23] <Nutubuntu> Some_Person, it's there
[06:23] <CVD> i want that xchat post my spec CPU,Memory with a command
[06:23] <thoreauputic> BlendArt: then stop running whatecer is listening on it, ubless you need it
[06:23] <thoreauputic> *ubless
[06:23] <thoreauputic> bah
[06:23] <xen> eh... build essential should come already installed
[06:23] <Some_Person> oh, so it is
[06:23] <thoreauputic> I give up :)
[06:23] <php_> oi
[06:23] <bayu> what dependencies ,,  i already apt-get install build-essential
[06:23] <LiveUSB> I can't seem to password my bootable USB drive, - Not sure if I even can .. ( and I mean password on boot Via Syslinux or equivilent
[06:24] <Tixer> how do I do a gnome login session using SSH?
[06:24] <Talcite> bayu: there's alot more dependencies than just build-essential =P
[06:24] <thoreauputic> bayu: if you can't compile, you usually need -dev packages
[06:24] <Some_Person> i think ubuntu should make a human kde theme, then we can make kde apps in ubuntu look better
[06:24] <willis_> i always change the Human theme  :)
[06:24] <Talcite> bayu: what are you trying to build?
[06:24] <Talcite> bayu: also, did you set the use flags?
[06:25] <bayu> how can i get -dev packages
[06:25] <Some_Person> i liked the old human theme in 5.10-
[06:25] <Talcite> bayu: no explicit need, but it's generally good practice
[06:25] <thoreauputic> bayu: what are you building ?
[06:25] <Some_Person> but its gone for good (the "human legacy" in 7.04 doesn't look quite like the original)
[06:25] <bayu> i build geos
[06:25] <thoreauputic> !geos
[06:25] <phil_pi> i hope cupps gets x to start
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about geos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !info geos
[06:26] <ubotu> Package geos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:26] <willis_> Geos? that old C64 Operating system?
[06:26] <willis_> :)
[06:26] <PurpZeY> How can I make AC97 playback appear as an input device like a mic?
[06:27] <c_lisp> Tixter startx
[06:27] <phil_pi> ati drivers are such a pain
[06:27] <CVD> damn Googleityoumoron.com is down
[06:27] <Some_Person> !ping
[06:27] <ubotu> pong
[06:27] <CVD> and now waht i do when some one ask a stupid thing
[06:28] <Talcite> ahaha CVD: shoot =P
[06:28] <willis_> CVD,  ignore them like we do. :)
[06:28] <phil_pi> google = rtfm
[06:28] <PurpZeY> CVD: Was that addressed to me?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> CVD: we don't encourage rude answers here :)
[06:28] <fistfullofroses> but rude answers can be funny
[06:28] <thoreauputic> true
[06:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:29] <CVD> :-(
[06:29] <PurpZeY> Does anyone know anything about a setting up a sound pass through?
[06:29] <Nutubuntu> PurpZeY,  no, but what *is* a sound pass through?
[06:29] <willis_> "We spread the love of Ubuntu!"
[06:29] <thoreauputic> PurpZeY: somebody somewhere probably does
[06:29] <LiveUSB> any one know of a way to put a password on a bootable flash drive? (a boot password) I've tried with syslinux but I keep failing. skips right over the "MENU PASSWD xxxxx" and keeps right on booting
[06:29] <MilitantPotato> !lostCD
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lostcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <MilitantPotato> :(
[06:30] <CVD> i have 3 months using linux with-out the other os and you?
[06:30] <PurpZeY> Nutubuntu: When I was in windows, I could play mp3s in winamp or whatever, and what was coming out of my speakers, could also be set as an output device, like a mic, so I could stream it...I went to do it yesterday and I can't
[06:30] <Talcite> CVD: I'm going on a year now =D
[06:30] <Talcite> CVD: even went to gentoo to learn more
[06:31] <willis_> Talcite,  and what did ya learn? That gentoo was a hassle? :)
[06:31] <Almighty_Henaro> Okay guys I broke something!
[06:31] <Some_Person> PurpZeY: what did you use to stream it? i just want to know so i can do it
[06:31] <Almighty_Henaro> 8D
[06:31] <Talcite> willis_: ahaha well indeed it kind of is
[06:31] <willis_> Talcite,  ya learned to read the docs - i guess.. :) gentoo promotes that.
[06:31] <Almighty_Henaro> I think I broke x
[06:31] <PurpZeY> Some_Person: I was doing it via Webcam conference.
[06:31] <Talcite> willis_: yeah, I learned CLI, real well =D
[06:31] <Some_Person> oh
[06:31] <Talcite> willis_: it's good since I'm programming
[06:31] <Almighty_Henaro> I uninstalled xserver-xgl and compiz
[06:31] <willis_> i learned to install a minimal gentoo system. and ssh over, so i could cut.paste commands to install the rest. :)
[06:32] <Almighty_Henaro> And now my mouse is a X and I have no working panels
[06:32] <CVD> checkinstall its good to create a personal .deb
[06:32] <Almighty_Henaro> And my window decorations are goen
[06:32] <Almighty_Henaro> ;~;
[06:32] <Almighty_Henaro> gone*
[06:32] <Talcite> willis_: ahaha damn I should have done that =P
[06:32] <Talcite> willis_: but yeah, I need to compile a kernel now. A new one came out! =D .20-21
[06:32] <willis_> Talcite,  made it much easier. :)  could read the web site docs and just cut/paste along...
[06:32] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyone know what the deal is?
[06:32] <Some_Person> Almighty: alt+f2, type in metacity
[06:32] <phil_pi> henaro: sounds like plain old xfre86 without gnome
[06:32] <MilitantPotato> argh
[06:33] <Talcite> willis_: indeed lol. yeah I should have done something like that
[06:33] <Almighty_Henaro> Nothing happens when Itype alt f2
[06:33] <phil_pi> a gray screen with a white X for the mouse cursor
[06:33] <Talcite> willis_: I just copied it over by hand heh
[06:33] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: ALT+F2 should bring up a prompt
[06:33] <Almighty_Henaro> It's not
[06:33] <MilitantPotato> Does it make me a bad linux user since I have no desire to learn the commands for everything?
[06:33] <phil_pi> debian ca. 1995
[06:33] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: then just do it in terminal
[06:33] <Almighty_Henaro> Woooh that worked ;D
[06:34] <obf213> is it normal to be able to save on your windows hdd
[06:34] <obf213> i think i just did that
[06:34] <Almighty_Henaro> Do I have to change my start up scripts?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Almighty_Henaro: ctrl-alt-F1, login, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart ; login to gnome again
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Almighty_Henaro: sounds like you lost metacity and gnome
[06:34] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: if it goes away after closing the terminal, restart X using CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:34] <BlueKnight> anyone with a decient amount of experience with ubuntu able to help walk me through a walk through? *blush*
[06:34] <ce_16_simple> hy
[06:35] <ce_16_simple> jdiweurdifol
[06:35] <Almighty_Henaro> It didn't go away Some_Person
[06:35] <CVD> i pay $25 for 512/256 its that ok?
[06:35] <thebigham> how do i install counter strike to ubuntu with a CD?
[06:35] <Almighty_Henaro> But I'm wondering if Ihave to change startup scripts or not
[06:35] <phil_pi> as long as it's just xfree without gnome, you might as well try fvwm95
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Almighty_Henaro: I doubt it
[06:35] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: good, now if you put any sort of thing that starts beryl/compiz/xgl at startup, remove it
[06:36] <phil_pi> Blast from the pAST
[06:36] <willis_> phil_pi,  icewm :)
[06:36] <willis_> olvwm!
[06:36] <tamale> can someone please help me with my fonts?  they look great in everything now except firefox
[06:36] <phil_pi> j/k about thw win 95 look & feel
[06:36] <Almighty_Henaro> Some_Person, that'll be tough I installed those a long time ago e_e.  Hopefully I don't destroy anything
[06:37] <phil_pi> willis: i keep hearing icewm is good
[06:37] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: System -> Preferences (maybe administration, i'm on windows right now) -> Sessions
[06:37] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: see if theres any beryl/compiz/xgl stuff in there
[06:37] <Almighty_Henaro> Doesn't look like it
[06:38] <Qodosh> I have a syntax error when I use sudo...I was wondering why my package manager wouldnt work....and pretty much all my stuff that uses sudo doesnt work....well it has a syntax error....anyone know how I might fix it?
[06:38] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: also check System Admistration (or preferences) -> Desktop Effects
[06:38] <Some_Person> Almight_Henaro: disable it if its enabled
[06:38] <bruenig> Qodosh, paste the exact command you are using
[06:38] <phil_pi> when compiz is installed,theres a configuration app where you can switch back to metacity.
[06:39] <Almighty_Henaro> Desktop effects seems to be missing
[06:39] <Almighty_Henaro> e_e
[06:39] <metbsd> how to tar one more time
[06:39] <fistfullofroses> you could just use aptitude purge beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-settings emerald emerald-themes
[06:39] <metbsd> retar?
[06:39] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: are you on fiesty?
[06:39] <phil_pi> i found uninstalling compiz/beryl can leave its settings in place.
[06:39] <Almighty_Henaro> Yeah ._.
[06:39] <fistfullofroses> and then remove those from the Ubuntu Autostarted Apps
[06:39] <Qodosh> bruenig:  sudo
[06:39] <maxagaz> how to repair a system that lost /bin directory among others, after a fsck ?
[06:39] <bruenig> Qodosh, sudo what?
[06:39] <Some_Person> Almighty_Henaro: then you should have it
[06:39] <bruenig> Qodosh, you don't just do "sudo" you do "sudo other stuff"
[06:39] <phil_pi> you might reinstall compiz, switch to metacity in the config, then uninstall again
[06:40] <bruenig> just delete the config files in the home directory
[06:40] <bruenig> compiz people
[06:40] <Almighty_Henaro> I think compiz fusion blew it up
[06:40] <maxagaz> can someone help ?
[06:40] <BlueKnight> Can someone help me with some problems i'm having with this walkthrough? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61
[06:40] <Some_Person> remember, gutsy will come with compiz fusion
[06:40] <Qodosh> bruenig: sudo anything
[06:40] <fistfullofroses> bruenig : sudo -s
[06:41] <bruenig> Qodosh, sudo anything doesn't work obviously, because anything is not a command
[06:41] <fistfullofroses> that will give you root privileges for an entire session in Xterm
[06:41] <Qodosh> root@qodosh-laptop:/home/qodosh# sudo apt-get install
[06:41] <Qodosh> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 20 <<<
[06:41] <Qodosh> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20
[06:41] <Qodosh> there is a specific example for oyu
[06:41] <Warp4_work> bruenig, try replacinging the 'anything' with a command
[06:41] <bruenig> finally he participates
[06:41] <bruenig> awesome
[06:41] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: have you messed with /etc/sudoers ?
[06:41] <bruenig> it is cool when the people who come for help actually participate
[06:42] <bruenig> instead of talking in generalities as if they know something
[06:42] <BlueKnight> hey :P
[06:42] <Qodosh> thoreaputic: I ran a script that automated the chroot jail process
[06:42] <fistfullofroses> Anyone here know anything about AfterStep window manager?
[06:42] <Some_Person> i remember when i first started with ubuntu, good ol' 5.10
[06:42] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: well evidently it broke your /etc/sudoers
[06:42] <bruenig> Qodosh, yeah that is obviously a sudoers error, if you don't have a root account you are going to need to fix it in live cd
[06:42] <BlueKnight> hrm..... windows 3.2...
[06:43] <fistfullofroses> or you can create a root password aand use su
[06:43] <Some_Person> BlieKnight: Windows 3.2 was a Chinese update of Windows 3.11
[06:43] <Qodosh> bruenig: yeah I thought so, arg.
[06:43] <bruenig> fistfullofroses, how do you suppose he do that without sudo
[06:43] <Qodosh> I do have a root password
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: you will probably need to boot "recovery mode" and get a root prompt then run visudo
[06:43] <BlueKnight> erm... well them.. it was a while ago :P
[06:43] <Qodosh> I can do what I need to do
[06:43] <fistfullofroses> go into the users and groups manu
[06:43] <fistfullofroses> menu*
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: then run visudo
[06:43] <BlueKnight> Can someone help me with some problems i'm having with this walkthrough? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61
[06:43] <fistfullofroses> then create and actual root password
[06:43] <bruenig> fistfullofroses, and that doesn't require a password?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> Qodosh:  %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:44] <bruenig> fistfullofroses, when you go into users and groups?
[06:44] <fistfullofroses> yeah but it isn't realted to sudo
[06:44] <thoreauputic> from memory
[06:44] <Qodosh> fistfullofroses: I already have a root password.
[06:44] <bruenig> fistfullofroses, kind of is
[06:44] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: see above
[06:44] <fistfullofroses> well, either way, might work
[06:44] <fistfullofroses> I know that gksu relies on the same libraries but I am not sure about how it is configured
[06:45] <maxagaz> can I execute fsck on a HFS+ partition ?
[06:45] <fistfullofroses> after entering the users and groups menu create a root pass, and thereafter open a terminal and type su
[06:45] <fistfullofroses> if there already is a root password beyond the normal user account, just use su with the root pass
[06:45] <bruenig> fistfullofroses, break your /etc/sudoers and then try that, I am interested to see if it works, I am willing to be it doesn't
[06:45] <bruenig> bet*
[06:45] <thoreauputic> fistfullofroses: this is not needed to fix /etc/sudoers
[06:46] <thoreauputic> fistfullofroses: he has a root passwd - he needs to run visudo
[06:46] <bruenig> even if he didn't have it, that is not a solution
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bruenig: yes it is - what do you mean ?
[06:46] <fistfullofroses> su is not sudo and they are unrelated
[06:46] <bruenig> thoreauputic, if sudo is broken, you cannot create a root account with sudo, now since he has a root account already all is good
[06:46] <thoreauputic> *cough* visudo
[06:46] <fistfullofroses> if he has a root pass he can su and nano and fix the sudoers file
[06:47] <thoreauputic> bruenig: exactly
[06:47] <thoreauputic> bruenig: thus he can run visudo and fix /etc/sudoers
[06:47] <bruenig> thoreauputic, maybe you didn't read, guy says sudo is broken, fistfullofroses says fix sudo by making a root account using sudo
[06:47] <nishoe> hi
[06:47] <bruenig> now that is problematic I would say
[06:47] <thoreauputic> bruenig: I said - several times - "run visudo"
[06:48] <fistfullofroses> No, I said use your users and groups menu which uses gksu to give root priveleges
[06:48] <bruenig> thoreauputic, I am not talking about you idiot
[06:48] <bruenig> read
[06:48] <thoreauputic> bruenig: since he has a root password he can run visudo
[06:48] <bruenig> I realize this is one of the more incompetent rooms on freenode but seriously has it sunken this low
[06:48] <thoreauputic> bruenig: excuse me, did you just call me an idiot?
[06:48] <Qodosh> su works
[06:48] <Qodosh> I can get root account
[06:48] <boricua_tech> I've got problems connecting to the web with Ubuntu
[06:48] <Qodosh> I am in visudo
[06:48] <Qodosh> now what
[06:48] <boricua_tech> can anyone help me?
[06:48] <Jerome_> 12:45am up 210 days, 2:12, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.05, 0.02
[06:48] <Jerome_> heh, so bored.
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Qodosh:  %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:49] <nishoe> i have a widescreen on my laptop but my screen resolution is not right. so i see my stuff compressd above downwards...  i tried changing the resolution but the sides of the screen flickers
[06:49] <Warp4_work> boricua_tech, what kind of problems are you having?
[06:49] <boricua_tech> well, it's kinda weird
[06:49] <boricua_tech> I'm running my laptop with XP/Ubuntu double boot
[06:49] <boricua_tech> I can connect to the internet with xp
[06:50] <boricua_tech> and now I can't with Ubuntu
[06:50] <boricua_tech> In the past I could
[06:50] <Warp4_work> boricua_tech, have you checked your network settings?
[06:50] <DisabledDuck> what is a good DVD burning application?
[06:50] <ari_stress> !ltsp
[06:50] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[06:50] <boricua_tech> what should I look for in the settings/
[06:51] <ari_stress> !dhcpd.conf
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <ari_stress> !lts.conf
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lts.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <Qodosh> thoreauputic: what do I do with  %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL .....?
[06:51] <Some_Person> Is there some sort of perfect Windows MCE sorta-like thingy for ubuntu
[06:51] <xoRock> need help, what is the different apt-get build-dep / apt-get install?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: that's the line to enable sudo for members of the admin group
[06:51] <Qodosh> oh do I put that under the root line?
[06:52] <thoreauputic> yes
[06:52] <thoreauputic> then save and exit
[06:52] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[06:53] <NemesisD> wow i am having a heck of a lot of problems with running ubuntu on this machine
[06:53] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  That line is already in the text, just not right under root
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: is your user in the admin group?
[06:53] <Qodosh> no
[06:53] <Qodosh> that might be a problem
[06:53] <Qodosh> lol
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: well then adduser <username> admin
[06:53] <Qodosh> just a bunch of users I dont want in that group
[06:53] <Qodosh> :p
[06:54] <boricua_tech> Warp4_work, what do I need to check in my Network Settings to make sure it runs ok?
[06:54] <dormedas> nomasteryoda, are you here?
[06:54] <NemesisD> question, how do i add the network manager to the panel? I added one I found in the menu but its not the same one as I have on my other machine, if that makes any sense
[06:54] <Warp4_work> boricua_tech, check everything ... whether you are using static or dhcp IP assignments mainly.
[06:54] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus?  Or an editor only?
[06:55] <dormedas> gawd, nomasteryoda, RESPOND ... please?
[06:56] <weirdbro> Why can't I force update-manager to a version from feisty-proposed to update to Gutsy alpha 3?
[06:56] <DisabledDuck> anybody know a good DVD burning app?
[06:56] <Qodosh> thoreauputic: visudo
[06:56] <boricua_tech> Warp4_work, now that I think about it, it all started after I used some ipconfig commands in XP
[06:56] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:56] <Jedusor> K3B
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: you still can't use sudo?
[06:56] <astrobill> can anyone help me get my IBM wireless usb mouse to work in ubuntu?
[06:56] <dormedas> greywhind, you here either?
[06:56] <boricua_tech> can it be related
[06:56] <DisabledDuck> jedusor: k3b doesn't work too well for me
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: have you logged out /in ?
[06:56] <nishoe> hi... i need some help using a modem via bluetooth
[06:57] <Qodosh> # User privilege specification
[06:57] <Qodosh> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:57] <Qodosh> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[06:57] <Qodosh> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:57] <Qodosh> /bin/test1       ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot, /bin/su - /bin/test1
[06:57] <Qodosh> Test       ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot, /bin/su - Test
[06:57] <Qodosh> Test       ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot, /bin/su - Test
[06:57] <Qodosh> test       ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot, /bin/su - test
[06:57] <Qodosh> Test1       ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot, /bin/su - Test1
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: don't paste
[06:57] <Qodosh> Thats what it looks like
[06:57] <Jedusor> you can use Gnomebaker
[06:57] <Warp4_work> boricua_tech, try running '/sbin/ifconfig eth0' and see what results you get.
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: never paste in the channel
[06:57] <noodles12> I'm using feisty. I mounted a USB drive and when i try to unmount it, it says that it is still "writing to the device". Any suggestions on how to eject this?
[06:57] <boricua_tech> i'm gonna try
[06:58] <boricua_tech> I'll be back
[06:58] <Qodosh> thought it would help
[06:58] <Qodosh> ...
[06:58] <NemesisD> noodles12, did you try umount -f?
[06:58] <jordan_> I have a kde config question when someone gets a chance.
[06:58] <noodles12> NemesisD: no, i just tried the 'right-click>eject
[06:58] <dormedas> can anyone else help me with running X server? I've been trying unsuccessfully for two hours now :(
[06:58] <bullgard4> NemesisD: Typing in a terminal 'usr/bin/network-admin' may help.
[06:58] <weirdbro> I need help upgrading to a Gutsy Alpha
[06:58] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: that file looks quite wrong - I suggest you consult the man page for :sudoers"
[06:59] <NemesisD> noodles12, try sudo umount -f /media/devicename
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> Gnight all
[06:59] <jordan_> dormedas: what error do you get?
[06:59] <dormedas> jordan_: umm, no screen(s) found
[06:59] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  okay
[06:59] <dormedas> jordan_: x server failed to run  as well :P
[07:00] <jordan_> dormedas, what video card?
[07:00] <noodles12> NemesisD: how do i know what the device name is? it is written as "disk" woudl that be it?
[07:00] <Lunis> I installed Ubuntu onto it's own hard drive using VMWare, but when I try to boot to that hard drive over usb it says "Error Loading Operating System" or something to that effect
[07:00] <wehttamb_> has anyone used a MSI S340 with ubuntu?
[07:00] <dormedas> jordan_: Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 4000 PCI
[07:00] <Cubey> is it just me, or is ubuntu slower than windows xp pro? :\
[07:00] <noodles12> NemesisD: nvm it worked. thanks! out of curiosity. How come that worked but ejecting it normally wouldn't?
[07:00] <Lunis> Cubey, just you more than likely
[07:01] <Some_Person> ubuntu is faster than Windows XP Home ("updated" to MCE) for me
[07:01] <BlueKnight> Can someone help me with some problems i'm having with this walkthrough? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61
[07:01] <jordan_> dormedas, tried installing the nvidia proprietary yet? or is that what caused the problem?
[07:01] <nishoe> hi... i need some help using a modem via bluetooth
[07:01] <dormedas> jordan_; nvidia proprietary?
[07:01] <Cubey> Lunis, well, i swear, it seems overall a bit slower. i have the official nvidia driver installed as well. hm
[07:01] <wehttamb_> has anyone used a MSI S340 with ubuntu?
[07:01] <NemesisD> Cubey, depends on the computer
[07:01] <jordan_> dormedas, is this a fresh ubuntu install, or did something change recently?
[07:01] <Lunis> Cubey, always been faster for me, even with beryl running, etc
[07:01] <BlueKnight> network adaptor?
[07:02] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  I can't find an example layout...not sure if man pages will help, well I will keep reading.
[07:02] <NemesisD> ubuntu certainly loads a hell of a lot faster than xp
[07:02] <weirdbro> Has anyone upgraded to the latest Gutsy Alpha?
[07:02] <dormedas> jordan_: ah, forgot to mention this is a live CD for feisty, trying to install so i can use internet and get off this windows
[07:02] <robomoore> Flannel: open up
[07:02] <Cubey> NemesisD, I've run XP Pro on this computer and it seemed at least 50% faster
[07:02] <jordan_> And would anyone know how to add items to "DesktopMenu" for right clicking on the desktop?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: near the bottom
[07:02] <jsestri2> I just finished an upgrade from dapper to feisty (upgrade-manager) and now I get the blue screen telling me that X is configured incorrectly. Tried dpkg-reconfigure, no luck now what?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: the commands come after the user name etc
[07:02] <Cubey> I'm not here to glorify windows, i'm just wondering what the deal is. :/
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: you seem to have put then first
[07:03] <thoreauputic> *them
[07:03] <NemesisD> Cubey, i imagine something has gone awry with your installation then, that hasn't really been my experience
[07:03] <jordan_> dormedas, thinking one sec... sounds like a video driver issue, unsure...
[07:03] <nishoe> anybody here can help me with a bluetooth problem? can i use a bluetooth modem to connect to internet?
[07:03] <Cubey> NemesisD, it's a fresh install done today after my other HD i installed to die after a few days ..
[07:03] <weltschmerz> Linux has given me massive headaches.  Just nothing that compares with Windows.  Even BeOS _occasionally_ frustrated me.
[07:03] <dormedas> jordan_: i worked on this with Greywhind, then nomasteryoda, and still no luck
[07:03] <noodles12> Cubey: I agree with Nemesis. I just recently reinstalled windows and feisty and feisty is a lot faster to me too. I'm working on a core duo notebook.
[07:04] <dormedas> jordan_: both Grey and nomasteryoda appear to be AFK
[07:04] <Cubey> i mean it's not SLOW but it seems less responsive than windows and video wise seems sluggish a wee bit
[07:04] <jordan_> And would anyone know how to add items to "DesktopMenu" for right clicking on the desktop?
[07:04] <Cubey> maybe it's an issue with xorg,conf, I don't know.
[07:04] <sleeper> would anyone know why my Ubuntu freezes in the beginning when it shows the logo, but then after a minute, it goes through quickly and loads up
[07:04] <sleeper> there is a pause
[07:05] <NemesisD> actually this computer im installing ubuntu on loads ubuntu very slow but it also seems to have some other problems which I'm currently attributing to the 8 year old hard drive i'm using
[07:05] <jordan_> dorm: switching to pm to lessen load in the room :)
[07:05] <dormedas> jordan_: k
[07:05] <Cubey> I'm running a (crappy, i know) 2.4GHz celeron 478. but ram is 1.5GB so i'm good in that dept and the video is pretty decent; FX5500 256MB
[07:05] <nishoe> NemesisD: 8 years! wow!!!
[07:05] <dormedas> Cubey: crappy you say?
[07:06] <Cubey> dormedas, referring to the celeron cpu
[07:06] <dormedas> Cubey: I have a 1.8 GHz celeron, so dont feel bad
[07:06] <darnell_> anyone know why i get a blank screen when loading frostwire or limewire?
[07:06] <Qodosh> sudoers suppose to be .tmp file?
[07:06] <jordan_> dormedas, did you get pm?
[07:06] <dormedas> jordan_: no
[07:06] <Lunis> so what do i do with the fact that i can't boot to a ubuntu that i installed using vmware?
[07:06] <noodles12> I have xubuntu edgy on a P3 old dell and that is sluggish. It lags opening up swiftfox or the filebrowser >.<
[07:06] <Cubey> well, in comparison to the duo core stuff etc it's pretty outdated now *sigh*
[07:06] <NemesisD> i run ubuntu on my laptop that has a 1.5ghz celeron and it does pretty well, even with beryl (on a generic crappy video card)
[07:07] <dormedas> jordan_: im working on getting myself registered here so i can PM
[07:07] <dormedas> jordan_: i forgot how :P
[07:07] <jordan_> Ah... might be why I can't either... hehe
[07:07] <bruenig> noodles12, swiftfox is a joke
[07:07] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  when I am done editing, am I suppose to be saving it as sudoers.tmp  ?
[07:07] <dormedas> jordan_: oh well go ahead :P
[07:07] <Syncro> Umm. does anyone know how to get Mplayer of Firefox/Mozilla working?  I cant stream this video http://demos.pourix.com/demos/brako/WMS/WMS-Lesson0.avi
[07:07] <noodles12> bruenig: what do you mean? I only use it because it's supposed to be lighter in resources than ff
[07:08] <jordan_> dormedas, there should be some log files that can tell you what failed... one sec and I'll find location...
[07:08] <blargman> whats a good vm app for running the backtrack2 is on ubuntu? :s
[07:08] <dormedas> jordan_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:08] <bruenig> noodles12, says who? the guy who makes the changes to the source and never releases them or tells you how it is allegedly faster?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: normally when you use visudo it simply saves as /etc/sudoers - visudo checks your synatax and tells you if you mage errors
[07:08] <Cubey> firefox is a good example to use. if i have one open and i open another, it takes several seconds in ubuntu. windows is almost instant ..
[07:08] <thoreauputic> * s/mage/made
[07:08] <bruenig> Syncro, make sure totem-mozilla is uninstalled
[07:08] <Syncro> Totem Mozilla?
[07:09] <bruenig> Syncro, yes that is installed by default and messes with mozilla-mplayer
[07:09] <fatcarlos3> aight dont kill me Im newbie. I cant get any resolution other than 600x800 Ihave a radeon 9200 and already "tried" to install the Fglrx
[07:09] <NemesisD> this firefox conversation may be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <bruenig> Syncro, sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[07:09] <jordan_> dormedas, yep, that's the one... look for WW's
[07:09] <BlueKnight> network adaptor?
[07:09] <BlueKnight> Can someone help me with some problems i'm having with this walkthrough? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61
[07:09] <BlueKnight> help... please... help
[07:09] <BlueKnight> someone :P
[07:09] <bruenig> !repeat | BlueKnight
[07:09] <ubotu> BlueKnight: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:09] <Khrajin> What is the main difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server? Could you just add LAMP to Ubuntu Desktop and have it be effectively the same as Ubuntu server?
[07:09] <jordan_> Anyone know how to edit desktop right-click menus?
[07:09] <Lunis> :<
[07:09] <jd_> hey levander
[07:09] <bruenig> Khrajin, ubuntu server doesn't have a gui
[07:09] <thoreauputic> Khrajin: ubuntu server has no gui
[07:10] <fatcarlos3> cant get any resolution other than 600x800 Ihave a radeon 9200 and already "tried" to install the Fglrx
[07:10] <dormedas> jordan_: ive been working on this forever and have tried tons of stuff :(
[07:10] <fatcarlos3> help please
[07:10] <Khrajin> Beyond no Gui, any diff?
[07:10] <Qodosh> thoreauputic: I got it to work! I knew that those test usernames came from experimenting with that script, well I just deleted those lines, and the syntax error is gone!
[07:10] <bruenig> Khrajin, no
[07:10] <fatcarlos3> :(
[07:10] <Khrajin> PFft! I'm installing Desktop!
[07:10] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: good :)
[07:10] <Tixer> How can I get GNOME to log me in using the terminal?
[07:10] <Khrajin> <-- Gui Admin
[07:10] <Cubey> someone in another channel made an interesting point
[07:10] <hyphenated> Khrajin: all the packages come from the same source, the 'server' and 'desktop' just install a different default set of packages
[07:10] <jordan_> dormedas, I know, when it breaks it can be fustrating...
[07:10] <jd_> anyone know anything bout ubuntu firewall
[07:10] <Khrajin> hyphenated: Woot. Neat
[07:10] <bruenig> Tixer, what do you mean?
[07:10] <Cubey> "keep in mind that XP Pro is a 2001 OS and you're probably using a 2007 version of Linux"
[07:10] <Syncro> I cant view it right now but thanks
[07:10] <Cubey> regarding my comment about ubuntu seeming slower
[07:10] <Syncro> Cuz my internet is slow
[07:10] <Qodosh> thoreauputic: my user is not in the text, but admin is set so ....I guess that counts for my user which is in that group...even though it isnt showing up in that text file?  heh bit confused, but hey its works, thanks man, appreciate all the help! :)
[07:10] <jd_> levander
[07:11] <fatcarlos3> ok
[07:11] <jordan_> dormedas, cat that log file and look for WW's which show warning, basically failures... got any that stand out?
[07:11] <dormedas> jordan_: umm, otherwise ive ruled out a driver issue because doing all the driver "nv, vesa" stuff doesnt work. I edited devices in the conf file
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: yes, any user in the admin group has sudo privileges
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: assuming the line I gave you
[07:11] <jordan_> dormedas, there has to be something in that log file then
[07:12] <dormedas> jordan_: The bad thing is that im running the ubuntu on this box (dual boot) so ill need to shut down restart, boot, check, then report back
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: so be careful who you add to the admin group :)
[07:12] <Qodosh> but my user doesnt have to show up under the admin line does it, cause its in the group, but the actual username isnt listed in the text file, the only thing that is listed is root, and than that admin line
[07:12] <jordan_> dormedas, Ah... no spare box huh?
[07:12] <Tixer> brunig: I want to cause my account to do a graphical logon, using only commands I can type in SSH
[07:12] <Master_Medic> what is the alternative version?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: right - the %admin means "any user in admin group"
[07:12] <dormedas> jordan_: it's late hours and i dont want to go rushing into my sisters room to use her comp
[07:12] <freeagy> hello
[07:12] <Khrajin> How do you have Ubuntu Desktop boot to command line login, and not load the GUI?
[07:12] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  You learn something new every day! :)
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: got it?
[07:13] <bruenig> Khrajin, disable gdm
[07:13] <Busata> there any program like mp32ogg, but the other way around? :-)
[07:13] <Qodosh> thoreauputic:  entirely I think! :p
[07:13] <dormedas> jordan_: sorry bout that :P
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Qodosh: OK :)
[07:13] <bruenig> !info soundrecorder | Busata
[07:13] <Khrajin> bruenig: But I want to be able to load the gui after I login
[07:13] <ubotu> busata: Package soundrecorder does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:13] <freeagy> i have a little problem
[07:13] <bruenig> Khrajin, ok
[07:13] <blargman> anyone recommend a virtual machine software for ubuntu?
[07:13] <jordan_> dormedas, no problems, but finding out what is causing it to crash would be extremely helpful...
[07:13] <bruenig> !info soundconverter | Busata
[07:13] <thoreauputic> !info soundconverter
[07:13] <ubotu> busata: soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB
[07:13] <Busata> bruenig, cheers!
[07:13] <dormedas> jordan_: one thing, how would I be able to scroll in the console? :P i keep trying and cant xD
[07:14] <jordan_> dormedas, shift page up
[07:14] <bruenig> Khrajin, you are familiar with startx I assume?
[07:14] <hsimah`out> does any one have a texas instruments flashmedia reader in their laptop?
[07:14] <dormedas> jordan_: ah thanks
[07:14] <xoRock> need help, which is better using apt-get install or apt-get build-dep?
[07:14] <Khrajin> bruenig: Yes. :)
[07:14] <thoreauputic> xoRock: entirely different purposes
[07:14] <dormedas> jordan_: i shall return soon, good luck with your little conundrum :D
[07:14] <jordan_> Anyone know how to edit the right-click menus from the desktop, I'd like to add terminal to the menu
[07:14] <bruenig> xoRock, apt-get build-dep installs all the -dev files and other files necessary to build an app from source, install installs the binary that has already been compiled and packaged
[07:15] <jordan_> thx dormedas!
[07:15] <thoreauputic> xoRock: apt-get build-dep is for getting build dependencies for compiling
[07:15] <enterneo> i just downloaded quake 3's gz.sh file
[07:15] <enterneo> but how to install it?
[07:15] <bruenig> gz.sh?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> bruenig: sorry missed your line above :)
[07:15] <fartoc> Khrajin, you have to boot or set init 3 instead of init 5 which is the graphic log in
[07:15] <enterneo> this is the file - linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[07:15] <Khrajin> thoreauputic does the 'build-dep' download and install all dependencies for a program?
[07:15] <xoRock> bruenig, thoreauputic, so for normal user like me is better using apt-get install, isnt it?
[07:16] <thoreauputic> Khrajin: it installs the packages needed to compile a package
[07:16] <thoreauputic> xoRock: mostly yes
[07:16] <bruenig> xoRock, they are two different things, if you want to install an application you use install, if you want to install all the dependencies necessary to compile and application from source, you use build-dep
[07:16] <Khrajin> thoreauputic ah ok
[07:16] <bruenig> an*
[07:16] <enterneo> anybody here for help?
[07:17] <xoRock> bruenig, thoreauputic thx buddy
[07:17] <jordan_> I am enterneo
[07:17] <fartoc> just type at a command prompt init 3 to try it; to make it perminate you have to edit your init script
[07:17] <Lunis> enterneo, i am >.>
[07:17] <thoreauputic> xoRock: no worries :)
[07:17] <enterneo> i just downloaded linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh , how to install ?
[07:17] <Lunis> enterneo, not getting a whole lot, however
[07:17] <jordan_> Oh... lol sorry I had that question backwards... hehe I'm seeking help
[07:17] <freeagy> i have a card reader . putt an SD card in ,  create a folder and copy 2 avis, 300 and 600 MB. when  i putt the card my pda (Fujitsu-siemens N560) the folder dos not see. putt it back the reader and does not see the created folder :( .      other copyed files are ok , just the ubuntu created map dos not. and sorry my eanglish is poor.
[07:17] <bruenig> Khrajin, figure out how ubuntu handles loading daemons, if you just make sure you don't run the gdm daemon during boot you are fine
[07:17] <thoreauputic> fartoc: init 3 won't do anything in Ubuntu, by default
[07:17] <enterneo> heh
[07:17] <dfgas_> what would be a better buy, pentium D 805 dual core 2.66ghz or a amd athlon 64 3600+ 2.0ghz dual core
[07:18] <thoreauputic> fartoc: or rather, won't stop X
[07:18] <quaal> anyone know how to add users and give them access to samba shares ?
[07:18] <enterneo> how to install quake 3 from linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[07:18] <bruenig> !repeat | enterneo
[07:18] <ubotu> enterneo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:18] <enterneo> ok thanx
[07:18] <yukonho> !patience
[07:18] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:18] <bruenig> enterneo, run the thing, consult documentation if you have to, bash linuxgarbagecrap.gz.sh
[07:19] <enterneo> ok, i understand
[07:19] <enterneo> i thought i was getting ignored heheh
[07:19] <bruenig> that extension is very odd
[07:19] <enterneo> sorry
[07:19] <enterneo> i will try to google out
[07:19] <enterneo> thanx anyway
[07:19] <JasonN> I have installed quake before, you can just run it as a shell script
[07:20] <JasonN> Should auto unzip its self
[07:20] <yukonho> Hello, I think I killed the audio on my Thinkpad T40 today --- I was fiddling around with libdvdcss and xine and think I must have undone something. It worked fine before
[07:20] <blargman> run system restore
[07:21] <cafuego> It's wrecked, just give it to me and buy yourself a new one.
[07:21] <jsestri2> Is there a way to see what modules are available for the xserver? I get the error that the driver wasn't found no matter how I try to start the xserver...
[07:22] <intelikey> ok can someone tell me how to share the (dialup) connection with the LAN ?
[07:22] <boricua_tech> warp4_work, I don't know what is it
[07:22] <thoreauputic> intelikey: the easiest way is with firestarter
[07:22] <thoreauputic> intelikey: one click
[07:22] <boricua_tech> I tried to connect using the live CD and it didn't connect
[07:22] <Warp4_work> boricua_tech, what is what?
[07:22] <intelikey> thoreauputic CLI way ?
[07:22] <varun0> jsestri2: what is the exact message? can you pastebin it?
[07:23] <boricua_tech> the problem with connectivity
[07:23] <boricua_tech> I can connect to the router wirelessly but not to the web
[07:23] <jsestri2> varun0: It would be difficult to pastebin since there is no way to copy it...I'll try and capture the jist though
[07:23] <intelikey> thoreauputic i'll note the answer you already gave,  but i need to kinda know what it's doing too
[07:23] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[07:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <BlueKnight> can i grab someone for an easy help?
[07:23] <blargman> is Xen not in the standard package list?
[07:23] <bruenig> !someone | BlueKnight
[07:23] <ubotu> BlueKnight: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:24] <varun0> jsestri2: that would be cool. it's easier to debug that way :-)
[07:24] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it's a one liner... let me check
[07:24] <boricua_tech> I can see the other PC in the network and both PC;s can connect to the web if using windows
[07:24] <blargman> :s i am looking for v software for ubuntu
[07:24] <SoulPropagation> v software?
[07:24] <BlueKnight> :P
[07:24] <speme> anyone who install vmware player 2.0 in feisty
[07:24] <intelikey> thoreauputic much appricated   ;)
[07:24] <dormedas> jordan_: i got them
[07:24] <jordan_> dormedas, Cool, what errored out?
[07:24] <Neo> quit
[07:25] <BlueKnight> Need help installing build-essentials/linux-headers/gcc
[07:25] <dormedas> jordan_: Cannot read V_BIOS and VBE initialization failed
[07:25] <blargman> vm
[07:25] <dormedas> jordan_: as well as Screen(s) found but none have usable configuration
[07:25] <blargman> sorry SoulPropagation
[07:25] <tsocks> BlueKnight: apt-get ?
[07:25] <SoulPropagation> blargman: qemu
[07:25] <BlueKnight> guide's cli input only leads to a larger menu of selections that it doesn't talk about and I'm rather lost :S
[07:25] <speme> i installl vmware player 2.0 in feisty
[07:25] <kralos> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[07:25] <intelikey> BlueKnight sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:25] <BlueKnight> sudo apt-get install linux-headers build-essential gcc leads to a huge list...
[07:25] <Slart> BlueKnight: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:25] <thoreauputic> intelikey: something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/32 -j MASQUERADE
[07:25] <BlueKnight> do them all seperate?
[07:26] <blargman> speme: i would perhaps but i'd rather use something open source
[07:26] <Slart> BlueKnight: I think gcc is included in build-essential
[07:26] <varun0> jsestri2: if you want to all the modules available, you can do a modprobe -l (I think)
[07:26] <intelikey> thoreauputic thank you.
[07:26] <BlueKnight> sudo apt-get install linux-headers/then again with build-essentials/and gcc?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> intelikey: check the masquerading howto on ldp
[07:26] <BlueKnight> ok, might be an old help :S
[07:26] <intelikey> k
[07:26] <SoulPropagation> just installed nvidia drivers through system>admin, now I get a blank screen -- I can get to the Alt+F1-6 terminals fine
[07:26] <intelikey> will do
[07:26] <intelikey> thoreauputic thank you again.
[07:26] <SoulPropagation> just installed nvidia drivers through system>admin, now I get a blank screen at the gdm login window -- I can get to the Alt+F1-6 terminals fine
[07:26] <speme> but i can't install windows in vmware
[07:26] <jordan_> doh! got disconnected...
[07:26] <blargman> does ubuntu have a frontend for qemu or xen or anything?
[07:26] <varun0> SoulPropagation: what does ~/.xsession-errors say?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> intelikey: you also need another line to make the kernel do the forwarding
[07:26] <jordan_> dormedas, repeat last please?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> intelikey: no iptables
[07:26] <intelikey> ohhh
[07:27] <Slart> !info build-essential
[07:27] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[07:27] <speme> most probably,there are memory problem
[07:27] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I just can't remember it off the top of my head :)
[07:27] <Slart> hmm.. didn't say much.. =/
[07:27] <dormedas> jordan_: said "Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration"
[07:27] <intelikey> ok.  will do the reading.
[07:27] <SoulPropagation> speme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:27] <jsestri2> varun0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30515/
[07:27] <tsocks> SoulPropagation: what about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[07:27] <blargman> yikes this channel goes a mile a minute
[07:27] <blargman> :D
[07:27] <geartrooper> how can I prevent 3d fps game screens from locking up?
[07:28] <jordan_> dormedas, Were there any other lines around that that had (WW) on them?
[07:28] <intelikey> blargman 2.1km/m
[07:28] <varun0> jsestri2: hm. how did you install the drivers?
[07:28] <SoulPropagation> is there a script I can pipe into that'll upload stdout to pastebin?
[07:28] <dormedas> jordan1: other than the "cannot read V-BIOS" or "VBE initialization failed"?
[07:28] <speme> SoulPropagation: right , i wiil try it
[07:28] <jsestri2> varun0: the drivers were installed before an upgrade all the way from dapper...just did it via upgrade-manager
[07:28] <BlueKnight> sudo apt-get install build-essentials is giving me a unauthenticated packages....
[07:29] <varun0> SoulPropagation: command > log.txt.......and then copy the contents of log.txt to the pastebin
[07:29] <BlueKnight> sae to install?
[07:29] <speme> SoulPropagation: thk
[07:29] <varun0> jsestri2: was it working before?
[07:29] <dormedas> jordan1: none other than those three
[07:29] <jordan1> Laptop, desktop/crt, or desktop/lcd?
[07:29] <jsestri2> varun0: worked before the restart
[07:29] <dormedas> jordan1: desktop/crt is what i got
[07:29] <SoulPropagation> varun0: From a terminal?
[07:29] <boricua_tech> warp4_work, thanks for the help anyway. I'm tired. Gonna deal with this tomorrow (maybe). If I cannot make it work, I'll uninstall Ubuntu and buy a Mac in the future.
[07:29] <jordan1> thinking...
[07:29] <varun0> SoulPropagation: yea
[07:29] <Toulouse> how can i rip dvd's in linux
[07:29] <Toulouse> w/ubuntu
[07:29] <jordan1> Is that from the install, or just the live cd?
[07:29] <DShepherd> varun0, huh???
[07:29] <Toulouse> i have dvd::rip
[07:30] <SoulPropagation> I mean like cat ~/file | pasteup.sh
[07:30] <dormedas> jordan1: live CD
[07:30] <varun0> DShepherd: ? :-S did I fsck up?
[07:30] <bruenig> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <menisk> I am having some trouble editing my Network Manager applet and Gnome Power Manager icons, I have edited all the different sized icons for GPM but it is still exactly the same as before, and I have edited the NM-Applet icons with the same result, what am I doing wrong?
[07:30] <bruenig> it doesn't appear to even take uploaded files, the ubuntu pastebin that is
[07:30] <DShepherd> varun0, he's at the tty.. not a gnome-terminal or the like..
[07:31] <jordan1> dormedas, thinking
[07:31] <leolandim> algeum aki sabe me dizer como faco pro meu ubuntu reconhecer a placa de rede..?? so aparece conexao modem na guia redes
[07:31] <SoulPropagation> !pt > leolandim
[07:31] <SoulPropagation> !pt | leolandim
[07:31] <ubotu> leolandim: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:31] <varun0> DShepherd: my bad. I should have paid more attention to his messages. Could he use lynx?
[07:31] <DShepherd> varun0, i dont know
[07:32] <varun0> SoulPropagation: sorry man. didn't mean to mislead you
[07:32] <SoulPropagation> varun0: it's ok
[07:32] <rsai> Can some one let me know about desktop manager, window manager difference / hierarchy.. I am seeing many buzz words like gnome, kde, xgl, xorg, enlightenment, metacity, compiz, beryl... :(.. completely lost.. any good links that talk about their hierarchy ?
[07:32] <SoulPropagation> I'm hunting down a shell script to throw em up
[07:32] <dormedas> jordan1: i dont hope to finish it tonight, maybe tomorrow i could have some more patience with this. although I'll continue with this til you're fresh out of ideas :P
[07:32] <bruenig> rsai, hierarchy?
[07:32] <defrysk> rsai, try google ;)
[07:33] <varun0> jsestri2: can you do a modprobe -l | grep nvidia?
[07:33] <rsai> googled alot.. nothing talks about all of them and their relation ship ...
[07:33] <DShepherd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_manager -- rsai
[07:33] <bruenig> rsai, I will go through the list, gnome is a desktop environment, kde is a desktop environment, xgl is a hack of xorg that allows it to run gl stuff mainly good for ati cards, xorg is the x server it is the graphical server that controls everything from screen res to mouse, enlightenment is a window manager, metacity is a window manager and is part of the gnome desktop environment, compiz is a window manager
[07:34] <jordan1> dormedas, I can't think of anything, there may be some options in the boot options, but I'm not that familiar with those
[07:34] <BlueKnight> there are 12 linux-headers to chose from, how do i know which one to chose for the install?
[07:34] <jsestri2> varun0: there are 2 with /lib/modules/{uname -r}/drivers/ ... video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[07:34] <bruenig> BlueKnight, do uname-r
[07:34] <bruenig> uname -r
[07:34] <DShepherd> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/713-window-manager-vs-desktop-environment.html -- rsai its all over google.. try again :-)
[07:34] <Lunis> has anyone heard of installing ubuntu through vmware to a disk, then booting from that disk over usb?
[07:35] <NemesisD> how long should i wait in the alternate installer at "preparing to configure hdparm" before I can definitively say it has frozen and start over?
[07:35] <dormedas> jordan1: well, nomasteryoda was working with me, but of course he's somehow AFK
[07:35] <jsestri2> Lunis: no, but sounds reasonable
[07:35] <BlueKnight> "2.6.20-16-generic" bruenig
[07:35] <bruenig> BlueKnight, that's the one
[07:35] <jordan1> Sorry about that dormedas... I wish I was more experienced with it as well... I
[07:35] <BlueKnight> bruenig - dl generic and the updated version? nod, danky
[07:35] <Lunis> jsestri2, i tried, i'm getting a stupid error though, all went well, but when i try to boot the usb disk, i get "Error Loading Operating System"
[07:36] <jordan1> I've only used ubuntu for a month or so... but been running a few others for about 2 years now
[07:36] <bruenig> !info linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[07:36] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.20 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20-16.29 (feisty), package size 825 kB, installed size 7060 kB
[07:36] <bruenig> install that
[07:36] <dormedas> jordan1: no biggie, im fine
[07:36] <rsai> Thank you bruenig,every one. I will build upon that.. so the list got reduced to desktop environment, x server and window manager .. i might get good hits in google now.. Thanks again
[07:36] <jsestri2> Lunis, pre or post grub?
[07:36] <dormedas> jordan1: which others?
[07:36] <varun0> jsestri2: I'll be honest, I'm not too sure. I think this is frowned upon by most, but try running the script off the nvidia site. I had problems with the nvidia drivers before, and installing them via the script helped. YMMV, though
[07:36] <BlueKnight> thx bruenig
[07:36] <jordan1> dormedas, have you tried other live cd's? knoppix or pclinuxos? just to see if they work?
[07:36] <Lunis> jsestri2, pre
[07:36] <bruenig> rsai, x server is the underlying thing below all of that, if you don't have x server you can't use any of that stuff
[07:36] <jsestri2> varun0, lol, well if it makes it work I dont really give 2 shits
[07:37] <JusticeZer1> Hey, i'm having trouble with GRUB. I got a big new hard drive and put it in, then installed Ubuntu on it (it will replace the tiny drive I was using for Ubuntu), but now i'm having shutdowns which I believe is caused by overheating from insufficient power. I will be replacing the case in a month or so, but I want to get rid of the old small drive. Doing so makes Grub go ballistic and give me error 21.
[07:37] <jordan1> dormedas, fedora and suse, but starting to like ubuntu more than those
[07:37] <noldon> anyone know how to get fullscreen mode in vlc
[07:37] <jsestri2> Lunis, I would expect the format got messed up some how...is your disk abstracted at all?
[07:37] <varun0> jsestri2: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[07:37] <bruenig> noldon, double click on the screen?
[07:37] <dormedas> jordan1: I have SuSE on this computer, but for some reason it cant connect to the internet and its an old version. thats why im switching to ubuntu
[07:37] <noldon> bruenig i know but it dosnt go to fullscreen it just fill my desktop
[07:37] <menisk> I am having some trouble editing my Network Manager applet and Gnome Power Manager icons, I have edited all the different sized icons for GPM but it is still exactly the same as before, and I have edited the NM-Applet icons with the same result, what am I doing wrong?
[07:38] <varun0> jsestri2: all I can think of is the module got renamed or moved........and xorg is looking for the wrong one. But I don't know for sure, and wouldn't want to send you down the wrong path
[07:38] <jordan1> Wish I could help more, granted I wonder if it would be better without the win on it... hehe
[07:38] <dormedas> jordan1: amen
[07:38] <bruenig> noldon, that is full screen or am I missing something?
[07:38] <BlueKnight> running this command - I get a cannot write to rt61_linux_sta..." (Permission denied)... any clues?
[07:38] <Lunis> jsestri2, abstracted? i'll assume since i'm not sure what you mean that it's not. I gave the vmachine full physical write to the hard drive, and let the installer partition/format completely. it boots in vmware but outside of that is a problem. i suspect the bootloader didn't get installed correctly, thanks to vmware, but i don't know how to fix it. the whole problem is that i dont have a working cd drive :)
[07:38] <BlueKnight> wget http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[07:38] <BlueKnight> bad link?
[07:38] <bruenig> BlueKnight, do pwd and paste the output
[07:39] <BlueKnight> pwd?
[07:39] <dormedas> jordan1: im just confused as to why X server doesnt run w/ ubuntu yet SuSE runs fine
[07:39] <menisk> BlueKnight, You having trouble with an RT61 card?
[07:39] <noldon> bruenig i mean i see the menus and the border arount the vlc window
[07:39] <bruenig> yes that command
[07:39] <dormedas> jordan1: perhaps KDE vs GNOME?
[07:39] <jordan1> dormedas, upset the wife when my AV subscriptions ran out and I dumped all win boxes... hehe
[07:39] <bruenig> noldon, oh, that is not normal
[07:39] <varun0> BlueKnight: PrintWorkingDirectory == pwd
[07:39] <jordan1> dormedas, dunno
[07:39] <noldon> i know
[07:39] <BlueKnight> o, in /etc atm :)
[07:39] <dormedas> jordan1: lol good idea. Im trying to switch my family from winblows
[07:39] <noldon> i been looking everywere in the settings but cant find anything
[07:40] <varun0> BlueKnight: do you have write permissions?
[07:40] <bruenig> BlueKnight, get into your home directory where you have write privileges
[07:40] <varun0> BlueKnight: maybe try sudo wget......
[07:40] <Tixer> Can someone try to help with my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505181
[07:40] <BlueKnight> meniks, sorta.. trying to install some drivers
[07:40] <menisk> BlueKnight, You are better off ditching the native drivers, they are horrible, I have spent hours trying to make them work, ndiswrapper work perfectly
[07:40] <BlueKnight> wiz k and k
[07:40] <jose__> Could anyone here help me get mencoder to automatically determine aspect ratios?
[07:40] <JusticeZer1> Anyone know how to remove hard drives without upsetting Grub?
[07:40] <BlueKnight> word menisk? do inform...
[07:40] <BlueKnight> atm I'm following a help on the community docmentation
[07:40] <bruenig> JusticeZer1, just reconfigure grub as you change hard drives
[07:41] <jsestri2> varun0: is there a way to force gdm to not start, and the computer to boot to the terminal instead...right now when things break I get no responsiveness
[07:41] <dormedas> jordan1: it wont make a difference soon, because today i ordered an NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 from newegg, so wednesday i'll have a new GFX card and we can determine if it was that
[07:41] <jsestri2> varun0: and you're supposed to have run level 3 to run the nvidia scrit...
[07:41] <Lunis> JusticeZer1, you will need to set your neww hdd as primary master, then rinstall grub by running 'grub' from the command line, look at google for instructions setting up correctly
[07:41] <JusticeZer1> ...Where do I go to do that? If I remove the drives, it freezes up on boot with an 'error 21'.
[07:41] <menisk> I have 2 computer that used the RT61 chipset, it work fine with edgy but dies in fiesty, so I used their native windows driver through ndiswrapper and it works wonderfully with full network manager support. Need a hand setting ndiswrapper up?
[07:41] <varun0> jsestri2: yea. you could try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:41] <bruenig> JusticeZer1, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[07:42] <Montaro> fx5500? they'd be only worth about $10 these days eh?
[07:42] <bruenig> JusticeZer1, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:42] <varun0> jsestri2: I can't remember how to boot into init 3 by default. wow I feel like a n00b
[07:42] <BlueKnight> yes please menisk :D
[07:42] <menisk> BlueKnight, Open up a terminal
[07:42] <bruenig> varun0, there is no such thing as init 3 in ubuntu or debian
[07:42] <BlueKnight> move to pm to avoid spam/clutter?
[07:42] <Lunis> JusticeZer1, that's backwards, install grub to big hdd, configure new grub, remove little hdd
[07:42] <NemesisD> should the swap partition be at the beginning or end of a disk?
[07:42] <dormedas> Montaro: yeah, in 3 or so months ill be grabbing a near top of the line computer so...
[07:42] <BlueKnight> got it open menisk
[07:42] <varun0> bruenig: oh really?
[07:42] <sauvin> Ubuntu installs itself in just! enough time for me to chuck my dinner into the microwave oven.
[07:42] <jsestri2> varun0: if I dont start in recovery mode, I dont get a terminal
[07:42] <noldon> and mplayer dont wanna play dvds
[07:42] <bruenig> varun0, yes, kind of stupid but yes
[07:42] <Montaro> dormedas: ah so i guess it doesnt matter about the gfx card then heh
[07:42] <jordan1> dormedas, hehe wish I had $$$ for upgrades...
[07:43] <JusticeZer1> I honestly don't know where grub is.
[07:43] <menisk> BlueKnight, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[07:43] <bruenig> !dvd | noldon
[07:43] <sauvin> noldon, mplayer plays dvds, but you have to install some codecs.
[07:43] <varun0> jsestri2: what if you just ctrl+alt+f1, and then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:43] <Lunis> JusticeZer1, hold on i'll look for a howto type thing
[07:43] <ubotu> noldon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:43] <varun0> bruenig: hm. I guess I always figured that was part of the kernel.
[07:43] <noldon> how can i find out wish codecs im missing
[07:43] <jsestri2> varun0: all of the virtual terms just show a blinking cursor, no prompt
[07:43] <dormedas> Montaro: building it meself, intel dual cores, SLI mobo, 250 GB SATA, Nvidia 7600 512 MB ram
[07:43] <BlueKnight> menisk, what directory do i need to be in to run that? got an error
[07:43] <menisk> BlueKnight, What was ther error?
[07:43] <BlueKnight> module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules" ?
[07:43] <varun0> jsestri2: hm.
[07:44] <dormedas> Montaro: 2 GB RAM and a sick looking case w/ 500W PSU, its gonna be nice :D
[07:44] <JusticeZer1> Thank you. It's just being twitchy and incomprehensible.
[07:44] <menisk> BlueKnight, that is fine, means it wasn't there to remove
[07:44] <BlueKnight> :O - o... *blush*
[07:44] <jsestri2> varun0: would the hack of moving /etc/gdm elsewhere work?
[07:44] <Tixer> Can someone try to help with my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505181
[07:44] <dormedas> who blushes anymore?
[07:44] <BlueKnight> people with increadibly pale complextions
[07:44] <Lunis> dormedas, BlueKnight apparently
[07:44] <BlueKnight> like true nerds/geeks and people who spent all summer inside dying from mono :P
[07:45] <dormedas> Lunis: apparently
[07:45] <varun0> jsestri2: haha.........I guess you could rename it. I can't think of any problems with that off the top of my head
[07:45] <BlueKnight> mono != fun
[07:45] <menisk> BlueKnight, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:45] <menisk> BlueKnight, lemme know when you've done that
[07:45] <BlueKnight> done it :D
[07:46] <jordan1> Anyone know how to change KDE's right-click on the desktop? Or rather, how to add something to the default menu?
[07:46] <Lunis> JusticeZer1, don't take me word-for-word, but try 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdb --no-floppy' assuming your big hdd is hdb
[07:46] <menisk> BlueKnight, wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz
[07:47] <menisk> BlueKnight, What type of card do you have? Dlink? Belkin?
[07:47] <BlueKnight> spammmy
[07:47] <BlueKnight> airlink101 AWLH3026
[07:47] <JusticeZer1> OK, thank you. I'll try those.
[07:47] <BlueKnight> I'm dizzy after that...
[07:47] <xen> back
[07:47] <xen> in
[07:47] <xen> the
[07:47] <xen> game
[07:47] <menisk> BlueKnight, just gimmi 1 min
[07:48] <BlueKnight> k
[07:48] <xen> thanks for earlier
[07:48] <xen> your expertise really helped
[07:48] <Lunis> dammit. perhaps slax over usb, mount usb hdd, grub it up, rinse, restart.
[07:48] <Lunis> wish me luck, i'm goin' in!
[07:48] <Lunis> DL
[07:48] <Lunis> ^D:
[07:49] <xen> I need a graphical wep cracking utility
[07:49] <jsestri2> varun0: no luck, in recovery mode it gets to "running boot scripts" and in regular mode it hangs at: "mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found."
[07:49] <xen> is there anything out there?
[07:49] <varun0> jsestri2: hm
[07:49] <sauvin> sorry about the multiple joins. couldn't get xchat's colours right.
[07:49] <p4ch3c0> DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER
[07:50] <Cat`> uhhhh
[07:50] <D7kx> I am having a problem, I enabled output to my tv, but when I launch new applications, they open on my tv screen, I want them to open on my lcd..
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> Where is the gpl located in our filesystem?
[07:50] <xen> I know, I didn't really expect much
[07:50] <menisk> BlueKnight, go here http://www.airlink101.com/support/index.php?cmd=files&id=65 and download the windows driver to your home directory
[07:51] <xen> that's alright I've received enough help
[07:51] <BlueKnight> uno momento
[07:51] <Lunis> xen, you know wep cracking is against the law in all 50 united states, right?
[07:51] <xen> pleh...
[07:51] <menisk> BlueKnight, okay.
[07:51] <Megaqwerty> xen: unless you're cracking with permission
[07:51] <Megaqwerty> then it's legal
[07:51] <Megaqwerty> ;)
[07:51] <Megaqwerty> (permission from the owner)
[07:51] <Lunis> xen, well, yes, they're correct
[07:52] <Megaqwerty> Anywho, does anyone know where the GPL is? /usr/share something?
[07:52] <varun0> jsestri2: ok let's recap. Everything was working fine, then you upgraded the drivers and X stopped working. so far so good?
[07:52] <BlueKnight> which version of windows drivers menisk?
[07:52] <xen> people are lucky I have no motivation
[07:53] <menisk> 2k/XP
[07:53] <xen> or I'd have taken over the world 10 years ago
[07:53] <xen> the world wide web that is
[07:53] <BlueKnight> wiz ok, got em menisk
[07:54] <menisk> BlueKnight, still got that terminal open?
[07:54] <BlueKnight> uup
[07:54] <menisk> BlueKnight, tar -xzvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz
[07:54] <BlueKnight> menisk you mean home or homeuserdirectory?
[07:55] <menisk> BlueKnight, just you plain home directory, /home/*your username*
[07:55] <RoC_MasterMind> Megaqwerty, gpl is everywhere...gnu.org if you want
[07:55] <BlueKnight> nod
[07:55] <Megaqwerty> RoC_MasterMind: I know, but I want to find in on our Ubuntu install...
[07:55] <Megaqwerty> To reference it in a mentioning of the GPL for a script
[07:56] <menisk> BlueKnight, you done the tar -xzvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> s/mentioning/licencing
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> /
[07:56] <greywhind> dormedas|gone: sorry about the absence.
[07:56] <RoC_MasterMind> /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
[07:56] <BlueKnight> not yet, moved folders in terminal and forgot which folder i left the tarball :S
[07:56] <Megaqwerty> Thanks RoC_MasterMind
[07:56] <menisk> BlueKnight, P
[07:56] <menisk> :P*
[07:56] <menisk> BlueKnight, should we do this over ssh?
[07:56] <levander> Anybody knows how to install the info doc's for Emacs' CSS mode?
[07:56] <menisk> BlueKnight, Faster and easier
[07:57] <BlueKnight> rofl
[07:57] <menisk> BlueKnight, Should we?
[07:57] <BlueKnight> so um
[07:57] <BlueKnight> search found 5 copies of it...
[07:57] <xen> k, since you don't really like questions. Please tell me about past experiences with shells so that I get an idea what they can be used for.
[07:57] <BlueKnight> well, just folders
[07:57] <BlueKnight> no tars
[07:58] <menisk> BlueKnight, I think we should do this over ssh, faster alot easier, wanna try?
[07:58] <orbisvicis> is there a movie player that can play multiple synced instances of the same video?
[07:58] <xen> I've heard of people opening a shell on others computers...or something
[07:58] <BlueKnight> sure
[07:58] <xen> that's interesting to me
[07:58] <levander> xen: they do that with ssh
[07:58] <xen> oh
[07:58] <menisk> BlueKnight, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:59] <hinogi> any idea why textures are flickering like hell in the linux version of rtcw?
[07:59] <Lunis> xen, you know, the ops here are wrathful and easy(ish) to anger. their banhammers are large and loud... :x
[07:59] <BlueKnight> could just redl the tar too btw :S
[07:59] <xen> :P
[07:59] <xen> well...
[07:59] <xen> this is an ubuntu chat
[07:59] <towlieban> i want to run ubuntu in a vm
[07:59] <xen> so I'm trying to talk about ubuntu
[08:00] <BlueKnight> ok all installed menisk
[08:00] <skollie> !offtopic | xen
[08:00] <ubotu> xen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:00] <allbert> /dns allbert
[08:00] <menisk> BlueKnight, SSH is more fun :) and I can show you how to do it a it better.
[08:00] <menisk> BlueKnight, are you behind a router?
[08:00] <xen> oh
[08:00] <BlueKnight> yup
[08:00] <menisk> BlueKnight, know how to port forward?
[08:00] <BlueKnight> yup
[08:00] <menisk> BlueKnight, Forward Port 22 to your computer
[08:00] <KMoth> You can forward my ports any time you like.
[08:00] <skollie> menisk & BlueKnight: if you are going to be exchanging connectiveity details, should you not do it in a private channel?
[08:01] <towlieban> i want to run ubuntu in a VM using parallels. the newest version supposedly supports 3d using directx or opengl. since it says in the parallels home page that it supports GL does that mean that 3d acceleration should work in linux ?
[08:01] <BlueKnight> one would think?
[08:01] <menisk> skollie, true
[08:01] <Ayabara> hey. is there a way to make gnome-terminal display the full path to the current wd in the title?
[08:01] <xen> I don't feel like getting banned
[08:01] <KMoth> XEN?
[08:01] <xen> because I'm one addition to this community you'd miss
[08:01] <xen> and you'd miss me with a fury
[08:01] <KMoth> Xen, what are you doing here? :D
[08:02] <xen> not sure
[08:02] <xen> just being a community member
[08:02] <TaJMoX> 57C is hot for a laptop hard disk?
[08:02] <skollie> xen: do you actually need help or are you here to help others?
[08:03] <xen> both
[08:03] <xen> I can only help with basic things though...like build-essential :P
[08:03] <jombee> I have a lamp server installed.... now what do I do?
[08:03] <skollie> xen: so ask for the help you need
[08:03] <jombee> nothing specific, just point me in the right direction
[08:03] <xen> eh... I don't really need help
[08:03] <jombee> I think xen is beyond any help we could offer
[08:04] <xen> thanks
[08:04] <skollie> xen: any little bit of advice you can offer can help someone else
[08:04] <TaJMoX> linux apache mysql php ?
[08:04] <xen> I know
[08:04] <TaJMoX> what do next?   PORN SITE!
[08:04] <jombee> tajmox: yes
[08:04] <dormedas|gone> lol
[08:04] <jombee> well i have a site, but I'm not really sure what I need to do
[08:04] <fartoc> Ayabara, if you google for ash prompts in google you can find out how but your prompt is gonna go to two lines quite often when you type in commands
[08:04] <dormedas> put an image hosting thing on there?
[08:04] <TaJMoX> i can promote your site if u have affiliate program =]
[08:05] <xen> I was just probing to see what others have used shells for
[08:05] <jombee> TaJ, thanks for the offer, but it's still in development,
[08:05] <skollie> jombee: why did you set up a LAMP server in the first place?
[08:05] <fartoc> Ayabara, will the command pwd work for you? print working directory path
[08:05] <jombee> because I have a site up on a free hosting site, but some of the php doesn't work right
[08:05] <jombee> I want to test it out on my box then upload it to a better host
[08:05] <luminerd> Is Ubuntu very well supportive of a Mac Pro?
[08:05] <ar_> hello
[08:06] <xen> hello ar_
[08:06] <towlieban> luminerd, i have it running on a macbook pro
[08:06] <xen> and welcome to ubuntu chat
[08:06] <Ayabara> fartoc, pwd works. the reason I want the full path in the title bar is actually that I modified PS1 to make the prompt shorter :-)
[08:06] <skollie> jombee: have you configured your server yet or is it just installed?
[08:06] <xen> I'll be you waiter for this evening
[08:06] <jombee> skollie: clean install
[08:06] <xen> what would you like?
[08:06] <jombee> skollie: in a vm
[08:07] <luminerd> Does anyone know specifically about the Mac Pro? I put Ubuntu on my PC once, and it ran, but I ran into constant issues that no one else seemed to have.
[08:07] <xen> I'm a waiter server
[08:07] <skollie> jombee: well, then you have to configure it to do what you want to do
[08:07] <KMoth> My hosting is PHP4, MySQL, Linux, Apache...
[08:07] <xen> and right now I'm waiting on  your request
[08:08] <jombee> skollie: that's why I'm here, I don't want a direct do this, do that. I'd rather a check out this website
[08:08] <xen> would you like apache or php with that sir?
[08:08] <fartoc> Ayabara, ahh you want the path to be in your xterm or gnone-term title bar.
[08:08] <Ayabara> fartoc, yep :-)
[08:09] <barado> Aye
[08:09] <fartoc> I donno how but I m sure it can be done :=)
[08:09] <skollie> jombee: what distro are you running?
[08:09] <jombee> ubuntu server ed
[08:09] <jombee> 7.04
[08:10] <jombee> but I'm not too tied to it
[08:10] <xen> I love you all so much you don't even understand it
[08:10] <jombee> as long as it's not fedora, I'm pretty comfortable with any distro
[08:11] <xen> because this is my community!
[08:11] <luminerd> None with Ubuntu on Mac Pro tonight then?
[08:11] <sauvin> I like Fedora a lot, but I'm finding that Ubuntu is a whole [CENSORED]  faster.
[08:12] <xen> I'm like sitting on an african plain surrounded by flowers of all different colors and insects flying about pollinating while humming little tunes in the ears of passerbyers
[08:12] <jombee> fedora stopped being fun at core 3
[08:12] <Newbie_Dude> How do I take a screenshot? >_> I can't find it in the Ubuntu Wiki...
[08:12] <jombee> I don't know why, but I don't like it
[08:12] <xen> while playing drums made from the hides of elephants
[08:12] <skollie> jombee: if your install is complete and functional, you need to set up your pages, databases, php stuff etc
[08:12] <xen> and stuff
[08:12] <Caplain> anyone have issues with qmail-pop3d?
[08:12] <Caplain> im getting auth failures when trying to auth on pop3
[08:12] <KMoth> WELCOME BACK
[08:12] <Caplain> netwplit ftw
[08:13] <skollie> jombee: I actually run a Fedora 4 server. Also have Feisty server installed on the same machine, but not configured yet
[08:13] <jombee> skollie: so I can just ftp my current setup over to the vm
[08:13] <xen> as always I'm the only one to provide entertainment
[08:13] <xen> thank me later
[08:13] <BlueKnight> !about | xen
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <BlueKnight> *snicker*
[08:13] <jombee> well I just found a new problem to fix
[08:13] <skollie> jombee: not sure. What is your current setup?
[08:14] <xen> did you just try and say you're crazy about me blueknight?
[08:14] <xen> well thank you
[08:14] <Newbie_Dude> How do I take a screenshot, I can't find it in the Ubuntu Wiki... Trying to send my friend a screenshot of my Ubuntu desktop.
[08:15] <BlueKnight> try printscreen button?
[08:15] <jombee> kubuntu host qemu ubuntu server  hostip <IP_ADDRESS> guestip <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:15] <Tixer> Can someone try to help with my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505181
[08:15] <jombee> Newbie_Dude hit the print screen button
[08:15] <YANP> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu.  I actually just installed it after my Vista crashed after having it for only 7 days on my new computer and Hewlett Packard did little to nothing to help me.  I have a question though:  How can I make the resolution bigger than 800x600?
[08:16] <BlueKnight> tixer ask menisk in a few
[08:16] <Tixer> who's menisk?
[08:16] <jombee> Yanp: settings menu > preferences > screen resolution
[08:16] <xen> the only thing I can help people with is surviving the coming ufo onslaught
[08:16] <KMoth> The simplest of tasks to a Windows-borne user become the most challenging on tasks...
[08:16] <BlueKnight> click the name
[08:17] <natsumey_> aku gay
[08:17] <Tixer> who's menisk?
[08:17] <YANP> The highest screen resolution is 800x600 I need it to be at least 1024 x whatever.
[08:17] <xen> meniskus?
[08:17] <menisk> Tixer, Hmm?
[08:18] <skollie> Tixer: I would recommend lugging that monitor downstairs  ;) - can't see how you can do what you need to do otherwise
[08:18] <Tixer> I was told that you could help with this:
[08:18] <noldon> getting this problem when i trying to run a dvd movie in mplayer
[08:18] <noldon> mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
[08:18] <noldon> Creating link /home/noldon/.kde/socket-noldon.
[08:18] <noldon> can't create mcop directory
[08:18] <Tixer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505181
[08:18] <jombee> YANP: you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file do you have any idea what I'm talking about?
[08:18] <sauvin> Hrm. Speaking of screen resolution, how do I get ubuntu to show what the current resolution is?
[08:18] <YANP> No..I just installed Ubuntu like 5 seconds ago.
[08:18] <bayu> help me in http://bkurniawan.pastebin.com/m3b554867
[08:19] <YANP> First time using Linux ever...
[08:19] <YANP> I was told I could get 'abit' but google just shows motherboards for that.
[08:20] <KMoth> You can still rip to Ogg Vorbis, though, right?
[08:20] <KMoth> And you have Python?
[08:20] <skollie> bayu: I have a problem loading your pastebin
[08:22] <barado> I've been having a hard time making my ntfs drive mountable, its a portable USB device if that makes any difference
[08:22] <YANP> So..any simple way to make resolution 1024 x whatever?  Is there such a thing called 'abit' that I can download to fix it?
[08:23] <JusticeZero> Welllll. That didn't work. *running on boot CD*
[08:23] <BlueKnight> barado, plug it in, wait a few and then check your filesystem/mnt/ and see if its listed in there
[08:23] <KMoth> ABIT is referring to your mobo's onboard video drivers?
[08:23] <BlueKnight> if it is, right click and mount it barado
[08:24] <skollie> YANP: have you tried the System Settings-->Display route?
[08:24] <KMoth> YANP: I assume if you download the ABIT motherboard video drivers for Linux, they will give you an interface by which you will easily be able to change the resolution... :\
[08:24] <JusticeZero> I tried grub-install but I have to use the boot disk to get to anything, and then I have no write permissions.
[08:24] <Flannel> JusticeZero: what does booting to your HD result in?
[08:24] <PirateHead> Does anybody know whether Logitech wireless mice are supported by default in Ubuntu 7.04?
[08:24] <JusticeZero> It just sits there.
[08:25] <JusticeZero> It doesn't whir or anything.
[08:25] <jordan1> Pirate: No problem with mine
[08:25] <bayu> help me in http://pastebin.com/d5dfdca4d
[08:25] <Flannel> JusticeZero: what does the screen look like?
[08:25] <YANP> KMoth: I have not a single clue of what I am doing.
[08:25] <KMoth>  actually run a Fedora 4 server. Also have Feisty server installed on the same machine, but not configured yet
 skollie: so I can just ftp my current setup
[08:25] <luminerd> None with Ubuntu on Mac Pro tonight then?
[08:25] <KMoth> Hahahaha...
[08:25] <KMoth>  actually run a Fedora 4 server. Also have Feisty server installed on the same machine, but not configured yet
 skollie: so I can just ftp my current setup
[08:26] <JusticeZero> Well, normally I get the prompt that says it's trying to boot the CDrom, then a line or two under that the cursor sits there.
[08:26] <YANP> First time ever using ubuntu/linux in my life.  I only switched to it because vista crashed 7 days after I bought this computer and I have no xp cd.
[08:26] <Flannel> bayu: what are you trying to do?
[08:26] <PirateHead> jordan1: did you need to hack anything together to get it to work? What model do you have? Sorry to pick your brain - just worrying about comptibility. :-)
[08:26] <Flannel> JusticeZero: you're trying to boot to the CD?  or to an installed system?
[08:26] <barado> OK blueknight I've got that far, now I just want to be able to write to it
[08:26] <bayu> i'm compile pkg-config
[08:26] <JusticeZero> If I boot from the CD and tell it to 'boot from first hard driv' I get 'Booting from hard drive:' and a cursor sitting there.
[08:26] <Flannel> PirateHead: you might need to do some tweaking to get the fancy extra buttons tow ork
[08:27] <Flannel> JusticeZero: You've already installed Ubuntu?
[08:27] <jordan1> Just plugged it in and it worked, not sure of model, one of the small grey ones, three button w/ wheel...
[08:27] <JusticeZero> I want to boot to the Ubuntu install on what is now HDA.
[08:27] <Flannel> JusticeZero: Ah, you swapped harddrives around?
[08:27] <JusticeZero> Yeah, been using that drive for days - but it's been freezing cold that whole time, and now that I don't need to wear a coat in my room i'm having shutdowns.
[08:27] <Flannel> bayu: why are you trying to do that?
[08:28] <JusticeZero> The power supply is inadequate; 300 watt. I was warned it might not be enough.
[08:29] <JusticeZero> Yes, it was originally HDD, secondary slave. 2nd master is the cdrom, 1st pri WinXP, 1st slave small Ubuntu boot.
[08:29] <barado> What do the locks on all my files that just started showing up mean?
[08:29] <Flannel> JusticeZero: well, the CD thing sounds like a bad burn.  If you swapped HDDs around, you're possibly going to need to reinstall GRUB, from a liveCD
[08:29] <bayu> i'm running make check
[08:29] <JusticeZero> I'm running on the CD now.
[08:29] <Flannel> JusticeZero: Oh.  Sorry, I thought you were having problems booting the CD.  Follow the first link here:
[08:29] <sauvin> bTW, whoever that was who pasted the link about how to get ubuntu playing a DVD, thank you! Works //nice//
[08:29] <Flannel> !grub | JusticeZero
[08:29] <ubotu> JusticeZero: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:29] <Billy> !libcrypto
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libcrypto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <JusticeZero> But grub-install claims not to have write permissions on hda.
[08:30] <bullgard4> Why do there exist in Ubuntu the two directories /dev/evms/ and /dev/mapper with apparently the same content?
[08:30] <Billy> I am trying to install libcrypto and can not figure it out..   can some one please help me...
[08:31] <Flannel> bayu: but why?  pkg-config is in the repositories, you shouldn't be building it.
[08:31] <bayu> how can i building pkg-config
[08:32] <Sanctusorium> Hello.
[08:32] <noldon> i have installed all the libdvdcss and libdvdread i can find but i cant make it to work
[08:32] <JusticeZero> ok, looking. though this is more the reverse 'recovering GRUB after removing hard drives (including Windows). :?
[08:32] <sauvin> Bayu, as much as possible, I've been avoiding building things. Use existing packages whenever you can; it helps VASTLY in preventing conflicts that can be the very devil to track down.
[08:32] <Flannel> JusticeZero: you want the "and overwriting the windows bootloader" section(s), not preserving
[08:33] <sauvin> noldon, did you go into the libdvdread directory and run install-css.sh?
[08:33] <noldon> no
[08:33] <noldon> thnks
[08:34] <noldon> were is that
[08:34] <Tixer> menisk: any luck?
[08:34] <bichopro> hola
[08:34] <sauvin> Aloh
[08:34] <Sanctusorium> Yuck, netsplits.
[08:34] <KMoth> Niven sucks as a server and as a human being.
[08:34] <Newbie_Dude> ok that was spammy, just saw like 20 people quit
[08:35] <Sanctusorium> Newbie_Dude, its called a netsplit
[08:35] <Matthai> hi, which HTML editor you recommend instead of NVU?
[08:35] <Newbie_Dude> I took a screenshot with the "print screen" key, but can't seem to find where the .jpg or whatever was saved to. Any ideas? I can't find any info in the Wikipedia/Guide.
[08:35] <Flannel> !html | Matthai
[08:35] <ubotu> Matthai: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[08:35] <bichopro> Hi, sorry my so bad english
[08:36] <bichopro> i need help
[08:36] <Bassetts> Newbie_Dude, the default is to save to desktop
[08:36] <Tixer> menisk: any luck?
[08:36] <Flannel> Matthai: also, Kompozer is 'nvu with updates' (since nvu hasn't been developed for a few years), there's a sourceforge page for it, but it's not in the repos yet
[08:36] <alex20> any flash people here
[08:36] <bichopro> how can i delete a key of the keyboard of my laptop (is a sticky kay)
[08:36] <Matthai> yes, I know, that's why I am asking. Thanks, I will try bluefish
[08:36] <BlueKnight> sorry tixer - hes kinda occupied :)
[08:36] <menisk> Tixer? the RT61 drivers? Yeah
[08:36] <bichopro> i ead an read and nothing
[08:36] <Tixer> what RT61 drivers?
[08:37] <menisk> Tixer, you need help too?
[08:37] <dfgas_> is this supported    MSI MBOX K9N6SGM-V
[08:37] <menisk> Tixer, what are you talking about, I'm confused
[08:37] <Tixer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505181
[08:38] <SlickMcRunfast> What channel would i goto to get programming help?
[08:38] <SlickMcRunfast> for Linux
[08:39] <sauvin> What kind of programming?
[08:39] <hamadooo> can someone tell me how to  use john ripper under ubuntu
[08:39] <SlickMcRunfast> I want to know whats best for gui programming, Qt, GTK+ ...
[08:39] <Sanctusorium> Depends on the coder really,
[08:39] <minskmaz> SlickMcRunfast: wxpython
[08:40] <sauvin> Erm... also means on what you mean by "what" when you say "what's best".
[08:40] <topshotta> compiz fusion problems
[08:40] <SlickMcRunfast> I'm a C/C++ programmer
[08:40] <topshotta> anyone can help?
[08:40] <hamadooo> no one can help !
[08:40] <topshotta> that is no good
[08:40] <Madsy> SlickMcRunfast: What language is "C/C++" ?
[08:40] <SlickMcRunfast> I want to find one that works on Linux(Gnome/KDE) and Mac
[08:40] <nol13> hey, anyone have a good intro scripting tutorial?
[08:40] <SlickMcRunfast> either or
[08:40] <sauvin> Good grief, I've seen more IDEs for GTK/Qt/whatever for C/C++ under Linux than you can shake a stick at. google around!
[08:41] <Sanctusorium> C++ is probably the most portable language I know
[08:41] <KMoth> WELCOME BACK
[08:41] <Sanctusorium> Argh netsplits are so annoying
[08:41] <orbisvicis> universal
[08:41] <KMoth> ur a portable language sanc
[08:41] <nol13> me? thanks KMoth
[08:41] <luminerd> None with Ubuntu on Mac Pro tonight then?
[08:41] <sauvin> c++ isn't all that damn portable :\
[08:41] <Madsy> Writing "C/C++" is wrong. C++ and C are very different in a lot of aspects.
[08:41] <minskmaz> I have a minor problems with SSL certs hoping someone can help - I have two certs that conflict with one another, depending on which is declared first. Both work fine on their own... nobody is answering at apache tonight  - help! :-)
[08:41] <SlickMcRunfast> sorry Madsy
[08:41] <KMoth> Pickeh, pickeh.
[08:41] <JusticeZero> Wow, they closed that helpful tip. =( The installer won't let me continue to where I need to be unless it lets me format /.
[08:41] <SlickMcRunfast> C and C++
[08:42] <topshotta> anybody know about beryl/compiz fusion?
[08:42] <SlickMcRunfast> so back to the APIs?
[08:42] <Flannel> SlickMcRunfast: anjuita, eclipse, there are a few others too, I believe
[08:42] <nol13> where do babies come from?
[08:42] <sauvin> topshotta, when I see people asking that question, I often see them being answered with "go to #ubuntu-effects", I think is the channel.
[08:42] <Sanctusorium> Like I sauvin, that I know...  I barely know C++ and I have a small grasp on java/
[08:42] <Madsy> C++ is portable across architectures, but code output can behave differently from compiler to compiler.
[08:43] <preaction> minskmaz, maybe because you're only supposed to have one SSL cert per virtual host? you're also supposed to only have one ssl cert per IP address
[08:43] <Flannel> JusticeZero: What?  Of course you need to.  Why are you running the installer?
[08:43] <Sanctusorium> In otherwords
[08:43] <noldon> now i have run install-css.sh but it still dosnt work
[08:43] <Sanctusorium> I should shut up
[08:43] <Sanctusorium> I don't know what I am talking about XD
[08:43] <minskmaz> preaction: very good stuff to know
[08:43] <KMoth> I can code in ((Visual (BASIC))(.NET)).
[08:43] <KMoth> Is that wrong?
[08:43] <Madsy> My stuff compiles on Armv4, MIPS, x86 Elf and X86 PE :-)
[08:43] <noldon> libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1539
[08:43] <hamadooo> noldon could you help me plz
[08:43] <JusticeZero> Because GRUB is on the Windows hard drive that I am removing because my power supply cannot handle the strain.
[08:43] <SlickMcRunfast> Should I just program just for X11 then?
[08:43] <noldon> get that error
[08:43] <minskmaz> thanks preaction - good night all - ubuntu rocks!
[08:44] <noldon> hamadooo with what
[08:44] <Flannel> JusticeZero: Right, but you don't need to run the installer to reinstall GRUB
[08:44] <preaction> minskmaz, somethink, 9 minutes is not long to wait before leaving the appropriate place to ask these questions. and that is no excuse for asking in the inappropriate place
[08:44] <dissection> !iso
[08:44] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:44] <dissection> !burning
[08:44] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:45] <hamadooo> noldon with john ripper
[08:45] <JusticeZero> Well, i'm looking at the ubuntu help file I was directed to and that is what it advises.  Is there a problem if just eject it physically?
[08:47] <luminerd> lol good point
[08:48] <xtknight> dissection, it can't cause any physical damage
[08:48] <luminerd> Yes but it makes me very sad. :(
[08:48] <dissection> xtknight: No i mean to the OS
[08:48] <noldon> fuck u
[08:48] <xtknight> dissection, just confuses automount that's about it.
[08:48] <Flannel> !language | noldon
[08:48] <ubotu> noldon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:48] <xtknight> dissection, but sometimes if you eject it, the system receives the signal and unmounts anyway
[08:49] <nol13> noldon, dont hate, and that was most rude i must say
[08:49] <bullgard4> English help wanted: The Gnome main menu has a Menu item 'System' with 2 subitems. One of them is 'Preferences' What is the name of the other item?
[08:49] <xtknight> dissection, but no, no corrupted data or any other consequences.  just confuses the drive/drivers
[08:49] <dissection> xtknight: Okay.. cause when I pressed the eject button, a small KDE tray window showed up. I thought that was odd cause I'm using GNOME.
[08:49] <xtknight> bullgard4, Administration
[08:49] <Sanctusorium> How can I change the theme of my panel bar?
[08:49] <bullgard4> xtknight: Thank you very much.
[08:50] <xtknight> dissection, kde tray?  maybe from k3b or something?
[08:50] <dissection> xtknight: yeah something like that
[08:51] <JusticeZero> I'm getting permission denied trying to mount this. :p
[08:51] <sauvin> heh. firefox crashes when I try to get the latest flash plugin.
[08:52] <noldon> why cant i play dvd
[08:52] <xtknight> !dvd | noldon
[08:52] <ubotu> noldon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:52] <kraut> moin
[08:53] <sauvin> !@#$@
[08:53] <JasonN> sauvin I had the firefox crash problem earlier today are you running your monitor on 16bit colours?
[08:53] <sauvin> I don't know.
[08:53] <noldon> ive already done all that
[08:53] <noldon> it still dosnt run
[08:53] <sauvin> How do I find out?
[08:53] <Newbie_Dude> Bassetts: ok, on the desktop, thanks. i was having trouble because I was trying to take a screenshot with the application menu open, so it didnt give me a "save to" dialog box
[08:53] <nol13> noldon, you must choose that path of light
[08:54] <JasonN> sauvin: this link talks about it https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1817
[08:54] <SoulPropagation> how can I dump something to a pastebin from a terminal, i.e. cat somefile.log | pastebin
[08:54] <noldon> i installed all the codecs installed libdvdread and run install-css.sh
[08:54] <noldon> but it dosnt work
[08:54] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, you can't directly from the terminal.  you have to copy and paste
[08:55] <xtknight> noldon, what error do you get?  what happens (or doesn't happen) when you try and play a DVD?
[08:55] <xtknight> unexpected behavior vs expected behavior.. .
[08:55] <SoulPropagation> xtknight: I'm entirely sure it's possible, as I've done it before. Besides, I have no way to copy/paste, my graphics don't work.
[08:56] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, send text to a online pastebin site from the terminal?
[08:56] <nol13> noldon, free your mind
[08:56] <SoulPropagation> xtknight: yes.
[08:56] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, probably is but ive never heard of it, sorry
[08:56] <noldon> the player crashes and when i run it in console i get this error libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1539
[08:56] <DisabledDuck> r
[08:56] <SoulPropagation> like a shellscript that does http://pastebin.ca/do_pastebin_stuff.php?stuff=$stdout
[08:56] <xen> I'm having problems putting my wifi card in monitor mode
[08:56] <noldon> and also this mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
[08:56] <noldon> Creating link /home/noldon/.kde/socket-noldon.
[08:57] <xen> it says not supported
[08:57] <sauvin> Can anybody point me to enabling hardware acceleration for an ATI Radeon 200m under Feisty?
[08:57] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, http://floyd-n-milan.blogspot.com/2006/11/bash-script-to-post-on-pastebins.html
[08:57] <The> does anyone know a good DVD burning app for video's?
[08:57] <nol13> noldon, SPQR!
[08:57] <noldon> soon i give up and reboot to windows
[08:57] <noldon> then i can at least watch this movie
[08:58] <rorro> hi
[08:58] <xtknight> noldon, i dont know.  rebooting made dvds work for me once.  other than that, google , ubuntuforums and that's all i can suggest
[08:58] <xtknight> !hi
[08:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:58] <nol13> noldon, but they'll KNOW that your watching it, do you feel lucky?
[08:59] <noldon> i been googleing for 10 hours now
[08:59] <noldon> nol13 plz shut up
[09:00] <SoulPropagation> xtknight: http://sh.nu/p/
[09:00] <nol13> noldon, there is no reason to harrasss me
[09:01] <kagemaro> !attitude | noldon
[09:01] <ubotu> noldon: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:01] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, ahh figures some good soul has made an easy way to do it.  good to know
[09:01] <JusticeZero> ok, I followed the instructions, but it shows three hard drives.
[09:01] <noldon> whatever
[09:02] <nol13> noldon, is your graphics card running?
[09:02] <SoulPropagation> how do I tell ubotu a definition
[09:02] <xtknight> !ubotu
[09:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:02] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Gnome main menu System > Administration has 17 submenu items. One of them starts with 'System'. Is it 'System check', 'System surveillance' or what?
[09:02] <xtknight> bullgard4, there is System Log and System Monitor
[09:03] <SoulPropagation> /m ubotu paste
[09:03] <YANP> Question:  How do I find out how much disk space I have left on my computer through Ubuntu Linux?
[09:03] <bulmer> df -h
[09:03] <xtknight> YANP, type "df -h" in the terminal
[09:03] <JusticeZero> I show system log, then system monitor on my cd install
[09:03] <xtknight> YANP, for more detailed analyses, use Baobab the disk usage analyzer
[09:03] <xtknight> bullgard4, System Monitor shows running processes, executables and memory usage.  System Log shows kernel debug messages and errors.
[09:04] <YANP> ok thanks =]
[09:04] <bullgard4> xtknight: Does System Log have four tabs?
[09:04] <xtknight> bullgard4, no that is System Monitor
[09:04] <bullgard4> xtknight: Thank you very much.
[09:04] <xtknight> system log->few panes.  system monitor->four tabs
[09:05] <SoulPropagation> There, updated to have the sh.nu/p thing in there =D
[09:05] <bliss> My ISP does not provide a static IP where can I get one or should i get a dynamic DNS?
[09:05] <YANP> Where is Baoba the disk usage analyzer?
[09:05] <xtknight> YANP, applications->accessories->disk usage analyzer
[09:06] <JusticeZero> hrm. ok, let's see if this goes.
[09:06] <bliss> I want to set up potfix MTA thats why i need a static IP
[09:06] <YANP> Oh ok thanks =]
[09:07] <MajorPayne> bliss: Your ISP most likely blocks port 25.
[09:07] <xtknight> bliss, some isps offer static ips for higher prices.  otherwise, use dynamic dns probably available on your router or just use it as-is on the web
[09:07] <SoulPropagation> Now then, onto my problem! I just installed the nVidia drivers, and now I have a blank screen instead of a GUI. I can get to the Alt+F1 et al terminals just fine.
[09:07] <xtknight> SoulPropagation, you only have one monitor, right?
[09:08] <LinuxProbie> Hey, my wireless card randomly stopped working. it doesn't even show in the configuration manager. can someone lend a hand?
[09:08] <MajorPayne> bliss: If you use dynamic DNS you most likely will not get reverse DNS from your ISP.  You will have a very difficult time setting up postfix.
[09:08] <BlueKnight> man, a lot of wireless probs tonight :S
[09:08] <xubuntunoob> hello.  is there anyone who could help me install xubuntu from a live cd on my old dell laptop?
[09:09] <BlueKnight> xubuntun00b the auto installer doesn't work?
[09:09] <MajorPayne> !install