[03:35] <dromer> compilerwriter: I'm on a windows-pc atm, running xming and putty, before I could forward X just fine, run programs remotely etc, just now I get this error
[03:36] <oem> i have to go and pay the rent i will brb
[03:36] <ushaba> hmm
[03:36] <ushaba> i can't tell what i am looking at in this pastebin
[03:36] <compilerwriter> I am in on an XP box with xming doing XDCP to my ubuntu box dromer
[03:36] <dromer> genii: all set correctly, I haven't changed anything to my sshd_config
[03:37] <dromer> compilerwriter: xdcp?
[03:38] <compilerwriter> XDMCP I mean dromer.
[03:39] <compilerwriter> Dromer do you have xlaunch
[03:39] <julle> c0nv1ct: it just hangs.
[03:39] <dromer> compilerwriter: I think so yes .. I have Xming running fine, I'm running iceweasel from my debian-box atm just fine
[03:40] <c0nv1ct> julle: try using the command line, tar -xvf filename
[03:40] <genii> dromer Make sure you are not trying to use both screens for the debian box and the windoze box eg: 10:0
[03:40] <compilerwriter> dromer I am trying to find the page that helped me get it up and running.
[03:40] <julle> c0nv1ct: ok thx
[03:41] <ushaba> alright sound gurus, i've pasted the output of the sound debugging steps to http://rafb.net/p/breBBf62.html and http://rafb.net/p/MDlnv914.html
[03:41] <CVirus> !skype
[03:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:41] <dromer> genii: I first tryed the ubuntu-box
[03:41] <ushaba> quite a lot of text to sort through, and it is picking up both sound cards at some level, even if only one is configured, i am only interested in the HDA one though
[03:42] <julle> c0nv1ct: that worked. inside this tar.bz2 file there is a .gz file what should i type after " tar -??? filename "
[03:43] <julle> c0nv1ct: to unzip that .gz file
[03:43] <c0nv1ct> julle: you can try ark with it, if not, use tar -xzvf
[03:43] <julle> c0nv1ct: thank you very much
[03:43] <Jucato> -xjvf if it's a .tar.bz2
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: whats the 'j' do, i never use it and it still works
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> for bz2
[03:44] <Jucato> j is for bz2, z is for gz
[03:44] <Jucato> afaik
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: oh, i never put in a j, and it still works for bz2
[03:44] <Tonren> About 90% of the time when I log in, my kicker panel crashes. It might be an XGL/Beryl issue, but I don't think so.  All of my systray icons appear in the upper left corner of my desktop, and trying to run "kicker" again results in a pop-up dialog "Examining file process: .trash", though kicker doesn't actually start.  Has anyone heard of this before?
[03:44] <compilerwriter> dromer perhaps this will help you sort things out. http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php
[03:45] <c0nv1ct> Tonren: seems like a problem with your trash can maybe
[03:45] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: That's a good guess, but I don't see how it could possibly be the issue.
[03:46] <c0nv1ct> Tonren: try removing the trash applet in the config for kicker, see if it starts up
[03:46] <StavFX> alright i got some output on my sound problem, http://rafb.net/p/oKbxjK52.html  can someone help?
[03:46] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: That's the thing; I'm having a lot of trouble testing it, because 50% of the time it starts up perfectly!
[03:46] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: It appears to be random.
[03:46] <c0nv1ct> Tonren: thats weird
[03:46] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: Quite.
[03:46] <ushaba> still got my sound issues with no input or output, and the output of the debugging stuff is at http://rafb.net/p/breBBf62.html and http://rafb.net/p/MDlnv914.html
[03:47] <ushaba> the trash can thing happened to me a few days ago
[03:47] <c0nv1ct> Tonren: does it ever crash if beryl is not running?
[03:47] <ushaba> i was trying to clean up several old files
[03:47] <ushaba> and it just kept creating massive .Trash files on my external drives
[03:47] <ushaba> it was quite frustrating
[03:47] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: I haven't tested that extensively, but it never did it *before* I had Beryl, so it *could* be Beryl.
[03:47] <ushaba> beryl is not the problem
[03:47] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: I'm wondering if there's a log file somewhere that I can look at.
[03:47] <Tonren> ushaba: That's a first!
[03:47] <compilerwriter> dromer that page any help?
[03:47] <ushaba> since i stay as far away from those things as possible
[03:47] <c0nv1ct> Tonren: its very possible its a beryl issue
[03:48] <Tonren> ushaba: What do you think is my problem?
[03:48] <ushaba> it might be, but i am afraid of 3d
[03:48] <Tonren> c0nv1ct: I agree.
[03:48] <ushaba> no idea
[03:48] <Tonren> ushaba: Well then how do you know it's not a Beryl problem?
[03:48] <ushaba> but the deletion of the applet, deletion of the .trash file in /home/user/.kde/..../.trash
[03:48] <ushaba> did it
[03:48] <julle> do execute a .pl file what do i write?
[03:48] <ushaba> well, i don't, but i am saying it might not be a beryl problem
[03:48] <genii> dromer Somehow I think the xming should be trying <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0 or localhost:0.0 instead of localhost:*10*.0
[03:48] <ushaba> i was too gung ho just then
[03:48] <Tonren> ushaba: Oh.  Haha, yeah, I mean, it could go either way.
[03:49] <ushaba> it could be a beryl problem, but it might not be since i had exactly the same thing even though i was afraid of beryl
[03:50] <genii> dromer Maybe you put 10 instead of zero into putty
[03:50] <bumzo_> jucato: do u know anything on mounting ntfs
[03:50] <Jucato> !ntfs | bumzo_
[03:50] <ubotu> bumzo_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:50] <ushaba> beryl is terrifying
[03:50] <Jucato> bumzo_: other than that, I use the Disks & Filesystems module in System Settings
[03:50] <ushaba> i'll wait till it's stable, i think
[03:51] <ushaba> so, any sound gurus still awake?
[03:51] <bumzo_> jucato: i have done everything .,... but i have just one incy bitsy problem with having write rights with a ntfs exteranl HDD
[03:52] <Jucato> bumzo_: ah.. that's because you can't/shouldn't write directly to NTFS
[03:52] <bumzo_> jucato: elaborate
[03:53] <Jucato> bumzo_: writing to NTFS directly is dangerous, because the implementation of the NTFS filesystem is proprietary and unknown.
[03:53] <bumzo_> jucato: any idea how i can write ''indirectly''?
[03:53] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: i wouldnt write to NTFS if i were you
[03:53] <Jucato> bumzo_: you will have to make use of indirect methods like ntfs-3g or fuse
[03:53] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g | bumzo_
[03:53] <ubotu> bumzo_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:53] <Jucato> !fuse | bumzo_
[03:53] <ubotu> bumzo_: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:54] <genii> NTFS is a huge bottomless black hole that only M$soft knows where the bottom is
[03:54] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: use fat32 if you want cross-platform read/write
[03:55] <dromer> genii: no I didn't put a 10 instead of 0
[03:55] <genii> c0nv1ct: Actually ext3 shared and an ext3 driver for windoze is best. No 4Gb filesize limit
[03:55] <dromer> genii: before it evem worked withouth entering <IP_ADDRESS> or localhost, on my debian-machine it works just fine
[03:56] <genii> dromer Ah, OK. Because the error you pasted had 10.0 as the first X screen instead of the more normal 0.0
[03:57] <dromer> the problem is definatly not my xserver or putty
[03:57] <dromer> I don's understand, it worked just fine before :(
[03:57] <StavFX> i'm still stuck with no sound, i just installed Kubuntu and there's no sound coming from either of my cards
[03:57] <c0nv1ct> genii: i never tested the ext3 driver for windows, it didnt like my x64 XP
[03:58] <ComputerHermit> StavFX  what kind of soundcard you have?
[03:58] <genii> c0nv1ct: Works fine on my old p3 and my other turion system (both XP/2K dual boot)
[03:58] <StavFX> my onboard i'm not sure about, something from intel i think.  and i got a Creative 128bit sound blaster
[03:58] <StavFX> PCI ofcourse
[03:59] <BluesKaj> c0nv1ct, I use ntfs-3g and fuse to read and write to the windoze partition and vice versa ...what fat32 ?
[03:59] <genii> bumzo_ At any rate if you are interested in the windoze ext3 driver, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:59] <BluesKaj> why fat32 ?
[03:59] <c0nv1ct> BluesKaj: writing to ntfs in linux is risky, fat32 doesnt have any problems
[04:00] <genii> BluesKaj: Well, it is the simplest to set up and both OS need no special things to work it. But you can't of course put anything like dvd iso images since inherent fat32 4Gb limit and so on. That is why I say ext3 is better
[04:00] <StavFX> ComputerHermit: my onboard i'm not sure about, something from intel i think.  and i got a Creative 128bit sound blaster. what can i do?
[04:01] <ComputerHermit> well I have no sound eather and my sound card isent supported I been useing ubuntu for awhile now and I think Iam going to go use suse becaue it supported my board more but I like to spend$ and Iam tinking of buying a soundcard but I dont know witch one to get because this distribution isent bad once you uninstall the remote stuff
[04:02] <ComputerHermit> :-)
[04:02] <ComputerHermit> I dont use any file shareing
[04:02] <ComputerHermit> on my network
[04:03] <StavFX> where can i see if my card is supported?
[04:03] <ComputerHermit> google it
[04:03] <ComputerHermit> this is what I done
[04:03] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  some of the Creative cards are very well supported.. BUT that latest Xi-FI cards are NOT supported at this time
[04:03] <dromer> how can I remotely restart my sshd?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Audigy 2 cards are good value.
[04:03] <StavFX> how do i change the card Kubuntu uses?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> dromer,  call a friend and have them hit the reset button? :)
[04:04] <c0nv1ct> dromer: i dont think you can, unless you can actually ssh/telnet in
[04:04] <dromer> Dr_willis: hehe, this will not do ;)
[04:05] <genii> dromer You will get disconnected of course but just sudo /etc/init.d/sshd   will do it
[04:05] <dromer> c0nv1ct: I'm ssh-ed in right now, but I need a new config to be activated, following http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php I've deducted I need an extra option X11UseLocalhost yes  but I guess I have te restart the sshd to activate it :P
[04:05] <genii> sorry, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[04:06] <c0nv1ct> dromer: do what genii said, and hope your changes work and sshd restarts :)
[04:06] <dromer> hmm, I don't even get disconnected :P
[04:06] <dromer> weird
[04:09] <dromer> damnit, I still can't x-forward :(
[04:10] <dromer> baah, forget it, I'll try this another time :S
[04:10] <c0nv1ct> dromer: i'm not familiar with x-forward, is it a remote desktop tool?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> X has a feature where you can connect to a remote box, and run apps on it and have them appear locally.
[04:11] <ForgeAus> jucato whats this mean?
[04:11] <ForgeAus> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[04:11] <ForgeAus> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:11] <ForgeAus> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: install kdelibs4-dev
[04:11] <genii> dromer consider switching to freenx LOL
[04:22] <bibek> namaste to all
[04:22] <bibek> how do i actually install sth.ttf font in linux ingeneral?
[04:23] <fdoving> bibek: copy it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ if all users needs access to it. else copy it to ~/.fonts/ (~ is an alias to your homedir, so /home/username/.fonts/)
[04:24] <fdoving> bbl.. dinner.
[04:25] <abattoir> bibek: or just rt. click ->Actions->Install font ;)
[04:25] <bibek> hi guys thanks a lot
[04:25] <bibek> but im not always in kde :)
[04:25] <bibek> about the installing in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ or ~/.fonts
[04:25] <bibek> once i've copied that, will it work instantly?
[04:26] <ushaba> i am going to bug the alsa people for a while
[04:26] <ushaba> back ina bit
[04:26] <bibek> also
[04:28] <jack_> hi, when i install the realplay10gold plugin it asks me for the full pathname of the directory where i want to install it, on the website itself it doesnt specify that; so where should i install it too?
[04:29] <bibek> wow it does work instantly :) thank you fdoving, abattoir
[04:29] <abattoir> bibek: aah, sorry, missed your question
[04:29] <bibek> my fonts in Openoffice looks weird
[04:30] <bibek> no antialising i guess
[04:30] <bibek> but in other programs works fine??
[04:31] <bibek> jack_, are u root?
[04:31] <jack_> bibek: no
[04:31] <bibek> jack_, if ur installing as a normal user, the safest bet is to install in ~/bin
[04:32] <jack_> bibek: should i do it as root? it didnt ask me for root privileges
[04:32] <bibek> nop
[04:32] <bibek> myself, i've installed on /home/bibek/bin/RealPlayer
[04:33] <genii> jack_ I think the realplayer already in the repos is version 10
[04:33] <compilerwriter> dromer did you get sorted out.
[04:33] <waylandbill>   /usr/local/bin/ could've been a good place to put it, but I thought there was a package for it already in the multiverse
[04:34] <waylandbill> !realplayer
[04:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <waylandbill> !info realplayer
[04:34] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:34] <genii> waylandbill Weird, I thought so too
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> real player is in the canoncial held repository afaik
[04:35] <jack_> genii: yes, but my livestream doesnt find it so i wanted to do it again manually following the webradios how to
[04:35] <waylandbill> almost everything is podcasts now anyway I thought. :-)
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> bibek: yep, that is a know issues afaik
[04:36] <bibek> Admiral_Chicago, let me google
[04:36] <bibek> Admiral_Chicago, but any quick help?
[04:37] <nysosym> damn i hate vmware player, is it impossible to install them completely and is it impossible to remove them... because they can't install the network bridge corectly... :-(
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure if there is a fix
[04:37] <genii> jack_ /opt/RealPlayer    or equiv should be the place then
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> bibek: the openoffice.org-kde package may help you out
[04:38] <bibek> Ademan_kitchen, thanks, let me download it
[04:40] <jack_> genii i get the error message no appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player
[04:41] <genii> jack_ You executed the file you downloaded from them? Or just put it in that path ?
[04:42] <genii> should be some .bin file that you sudo chmod +x to then execute
[04:42] <jack_> i did yes
[04:42] <jack_> then i did./...
[04:42] <jack_> but i was not sure about the path
[04:42] <nysosym> can anyone help me please, vmware-playere won't be removed...
[04:43] <jack_> so which should i use then?/usr/local/bin?
[04:43] <nysosym> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8257/
[04:44] <genii> No, just /usr/bin
[04:44] <genii> jack_ You can test if it works from commandline by just: realplay
[04:45] <jack_> genii yes, but which path yours or waylandbill suggestion?
[04:45] <compilerwriter> genii did dromer get his stuff sorted out?
[04:45] <genii> jack_ All the reference i have found says either /opt/RealPlayer or /usr/bin
[04:46] <genii> compilerwriter: I think he gave up for now and went for a nap :) I suggested he look into freenx
[04:46] <jack_> genii i guess the prob i didnt use the realplayer before
[04:46] <jack_> genii but its there i dont need it, thats cool
[04:47] <waylandbill> it shouldn't matter where you put it as long as it's in the path
[04:47] <compilerwriter> I will continue to try to find the web page that helped me get it all set up.  It was very good.  I just wish I had bookmarked it.
[04:49] <genii> compilerwriter: I'm hoping someone will package freenx soon. It is very good and can do vnc protocol as well
[04:50] <compilerwriter> xming will vnc I believe.
[04:50] <jack_> genii: i still get the message but the player is there
[04:51] <compilerwriter> Anyone know the difference between /usr/bin/zsh and /bin/zsh?
[04:52] <genii> jack_ It may not work from in the web browser, perhaps try it. Earlier error you said was about not being able to use it as embedded player and so on
[04:52] <genii> do a diff on em LOL
[04:52] <jack_> but genii how can i use then a livestream radio from the web?
[04:53] <genii> jack_ Try from the browser first to see if it works or not. If it does,good. If not we deal with that
[04:53] <NSCAD_Nathan> Where is the option to allow dragging windows to the edge to change the desktop?  I can't seem to find it
[04:54] <jean-benoit> !fr
[04:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:54] <jack_> genii i did, i still get the error, only now it says transferring sth in the pop up window of the stream, but the messies come again and no sound
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> compilerwriter: /bin/zsh is system wide
[04:56] <sound_fx> Can anyone tell me how to configure how to close my lid on my laptop to suspend?
[04:56] <bumzo> oh no
[04:56] <bumzo> is fuse here?
[04:56] <Tm_T> !java
[04:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:57] <genii> jack_ OK, what dir did you end up installing it in?
[04:57] <bumzo> i need help in mounting my flash
[04:57] <jack_> genii when i discovered it was in the system i didnt
[04:59] <genii> jack_ OK, delete /opt/RealPlayer if you installed it there before. Then re-run the binary with sudo./thefilename.bin     (in the dir it is in) and tell it to use /usr/bin
[04:59] <bumzo> !patebin
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <bumzo> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <mneisen> Hi, is there any tool to create diffs of *really* LARGE files (~3-5 GB)? If so, is there a companion program to apply such patches?
[05:01] <genii> mneisen I'm pretty sure the standard diff/patch tools can make large files to 16Gb
[05:01] <waylandbill> mneisen: diff and patch should be able to handle that.
[05:02] <bumzo> PLEASE HELP http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10024/
[05:02] <bumzo> are these chat sessions saved?
[05:02] <jack_> genii its not there, which says /usr/bin/realplay
[05:02] <bumzo> i'd like to retrieve an ealrier chat session with a guy called fuse
[05:03] <mneisen> genii: waylandbill: the problem is that diff takes up lots of RAM (up to 3G) and then quits ... when swap space runs out ...
[05:03] <Jucato> !logs
[05:03] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:03] <Jucato> bumzo: ^^
[05:03] <waylandbill> bumzo: did you format the flash disk with a filesystem the kernel recognizes?
[05:03] <mneisen> Is there any option to maybe tell diff not to keep the diff'ed files in AM?
[05:04] <waylandbill> mneisen: maybe --speed-large-files ?
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> blue|palm: looking now
[05:04] <mneisen> waylandbill: already tried that, to no avail... :-(
[05:04] <waylandbill> mneisen: these binary files?
[05:05] <bumzo> its FAT sustem waylandbill
[05:05] <mneisen> waylandbill: No, text files.
[05:08] <waylandbill> mneisen: you should be able to write a small C program that uses disk rather than memory. if there isn't something already.
[05:09] <sound_fx> Do you have to configure suspend options via console? or is there a graphical interface I'm not seeing?
[05:09] <mneisen> waylandbill: I'm looking for that little something ... :_D
[05:10] <bibek> why doesn't ark contain the option to select compression level and passwords??
[05:11] <bibek> its pretty strange but i haven't seen a good gui archive manager :(
[05:11] <ubuntu> lol
[05:11] <waylandbill> mneisen: another option is to split the files and diff the portions.
[05:11] <ubuntu> I have a problem, propeller heads
[05:11] <blue|palm> Admiral_Chicago: sorry?
[05:12] <ubuntu> My brand new slackware 10.2 installation won't see my usb mouse/keyboard, they both channel through one usb  cord, and i told it that i had a usb mouse during the installation
[05:12] <mneisen> waylandbill: Yes, I will try that option (using cut). Nevertheless, thank you very much. :_D
[05:12] <waylandbill> bibek: if you need special circumstances like setting compression level, then using the command line wouldn't be that difficulty
[05:12] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: you do realize you are asking this in a ubuntu channel right?
[05:13] <jack_> genii it works fine now,i just reinstalled in synaptic
[05:13] <genii> jack_ Ah, good :)
[05:13] <ubuntu> i never got synaptic
[05:13] <ubuntu> i prefer adept
[05:13] <clive> who am I?
[05:14] <blue|palm>  Hi, can anyone tell me if OO 2.1 is in the ubuntu repos yet? Or must i download it from the OO website?
[05:14] <ubuntu> i don't thinnk OO2.1 is in the repository yet
[05:14] <genii> mneisen diff has -H   switch for large files but I dunno if it will have any effect on how much swap gets used
[05:14] <ubuntu> i'll check right now
[05:14] <DaSkreech> crimsun: ping
[05:14] <mneisen> genii: I already tried sdiff - same problem if later.
[05:14] <ubuntu> yo bluepalm, i'm lookin for ya
[05:14] <blue|palm> ubuntu: if not, is there a reason for it not being in the repos?
[05:15] <blue|palm> ubuntu: thanks
[05:15] <waylandbill> !info openoffice.org
[05:15] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[05:15] <genii> mneisen Well, the dirty fix would be to just make some humungous swap partition or disable swap entirely
[05:16] <ubuntu> no we're still at version 2.0 in the repos
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !info koffice
[05:17] <ubotu> koffice: KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:17] <genii> mneisen: If were me I'd likely try disable swap as first tactic
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !info openoffice.org feisty
[05:17] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0~rc3~oof680m10-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[05:17] <ubuntu> !infoo  dmake
[05:17] <ubuntu> !info dmake
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infoo  dmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <ubuntu> awwwwww
[05:17] <ubotu> dmake: make utility used to build OpenOffice.org. In component main, is extra. Version 1:4.4-2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 272 kB
[05:18] <conrad_> is kubuntu studio coming out too?
[05:18] <fuel> any idea how to download a directory or a folder from a webpage (recursively) ?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> conrad_: Hmm?
[05:18] <fuel> for example java doc ?
[05:18] <ubuntu> !divx4linux
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about divx4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <DaSkreech> fuel: try wget
[05:18] <genii> fuel wget with recursive switch
[05:18] <DaSkreech> or keget
[05:18] <ubuntu> !info divx4linux
[05:18] <DaSkreech> kget
[05:18] <ubotu> Package divx4linux does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:18] <conrad_> DaSkreech: it looks really good! ubuntustudio.org
[05:18] <mneisen> genii: The problem is that diff needs *more* RAM not less.
[05:18] <fuel> DaSkreech: i have kget installed, how to use it recursively ?
[05:18] <waylandbill> mneisen: diff'ing multigigabyte files is going to be very, very time consuming no matter how you handle it.
[05:18] <ubuntu> hey where can i get divx4linux?
[05:19] <mneisen> waylandbill: yes i know ... :-(
[05:19] <c0nv1ct> !codecs | ubuntu
[05:19] <ubotu> ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <DaSkreech> fuel: I actually don't know :) I would guess that it can do it though
[05:19] <fuel> :)
[05:19] <DaSkreech> fuel: Check shortcuts maybe?
[05:19] <livingdaylight> DaSkreech: not heard of ubuntu studio project?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> livingdaylight: Nope
[05:20] <waylandbill> mneisen: if you need to do it repeatedly, you almost need to track what is getting changed while changing rather than determining afterwards.
[05:20] <ubuntu> !codecs | BSD
[05:20] <ubotu> BSD: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:20] <DaSkreech> It's a movie?
[05:20] <genii> mneisen I'd say disabling swap would make the system crawl during the process but it should complete. It should write cunks aout instead of stockpiling the data on swap drive.
[05:20] <livingdaylight> DaSkreech: #ubuntustudio
[05:20] <genii> *chunks* not cunks
[05:20] <ubuntu> !info gcjj
[05:21] <ubuntu> oops
[05:21] <ubotu> Package gcjj does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:21] <ubuntu> !info gcj
[05:21] <ubotu> gcj: The GNU Java compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:21] <waylandbill> genii: it wouldn't cause system instability when the ram is consumed?
[05:21] <ubuntu> !info jdk
[05:21] <ubotu> Package jdk does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:21] <ubuntu> shoot
[05:21] <ubuntu> !info x
[05:21] <ubuntu> haha
[05:21] <ubotu> Package x does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:21] <ubuntu> lawl
[05:21] <ubuntu> !info x11
[05:22] <ubotu> Package x11 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:22] <livingdaylight> DaSkreech: its a bit quite over at #ubuntustudio, lol
[05:22] <genii> waylandbill The memory management is usually superb in debian/ubuntu. i should think it would fill up, dump the results it had so far then repeat until the output file is done.
[05:22] <DaSkreech> livingdaylight: Shhh recording in progress?
[05:22] <genii> ubuntu Please, if you must pester the ubotu open up a separate private box LOL
[05:23] <livingdaylight> DaSkreech: recording session? :o
[05:23] <livingdaylight> ^^
[05:23] <waylandbill> genii: if it worked like that, I would assume that mneisen's problem wouldn't even be happening then
[05:23] <BluesKaj> yeah, bots have feelings too, ya know :)
[05:23] <mneisen> waylandbill: right you are...
[05:23] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ^_^
[05:23] <ubuntu> they do?
[05:24] <mneisen> my problem is *not* speed.
[05:24] <ubuntu> bots... have feelings? what madness is thsi?
[05:24] <ubuntu> this*
[05:24] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: It is what it is programmed to feel
[05:24] <BluesKaj> utter madness
[05:24] <genii> !botsnack
[05:24] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:24] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: then I would have ... OMG
[05:24] <genii> Well he seems to at least get hungry
[05:24] <ubuntu> you just fed the bot
[05:24] <ubuntu> !botsnack
[05:24] <ubuntu> aww
[05:24] <DaSkreech> !botslap
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <ubuntu> !botmolest
[05:25] <JuJuBee> Greetings.  Trying to load 6.10 onto a new computer (INTEL 965 MoBo, Core 2 Duo, 2GB Ram, 160GB HD).  I get the boot menu, but when I try to install, I get the splash screen then an error about BusyBox...  I disabled the splash and it appears that once the kernel loads, the system forgets how to read the DVD drive.
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botmolest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: reset your bios first
[05:25] <|alex|> someone could help me?
[05:25] <JuJuBee> Back to Factory Defaults?
[05:25] <|alex|> I have a problem
[05:25] <ubuntu> yes
[05:26] <JuJuBee> K
[05:26] <ubuntu> jujubee: then enable booting from your drive
[05:26] <genii> mneisen Well, then if you don't want to chance disabling swap, the other option is to make the huge swap partition and see if it still chunks out
[05:26] <fuel> genii : wget with recursive switch works wonderfully!
[05:26] <ubuntu> !info loginscreen6.9
[05:26] <ubotu> Package loginscreen6.9 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:26] <genii> fuel glad to hear :)
[05:26] <JuJuBee> But booting from dvd is enabled by default
[05:27] <ubuntu> You get to the splash screen?
[05:27] <JuJuBee> Yes
[05:27] <ubuntu> !info busybox
[05:27] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB
[05:27] <ubuntu> ahaha
[05:27] <mneisen> genii: I think of several solutions and will experiment.
[05:27] <ubuntu> jujubee: is it a laptop?
[05:27] <JuJuBee> No
[05:27] <mneisen> genii: waylandbill: thanks-a-jillion for your ideas and help.
[05:27] <bumzo> hi guys
[05:27] <genii> mneisen OK, best luck
[05:27] <ubuntu> jujubee: does it have an old vidocard?
[05:27] <bumzo> i've just mounted my flash disk using ''sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1''
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: and?
[05:28] <|alex|> From three days kubuntu show me only windows partition on the desktop. If I want to see other partition i have to close session and open a new session
[05:28] <JuJuBee> Dont think so.  NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE
[05:28] <|alex|> how can i solve this problem?
[05:28] <ubuntu> ahh thats what i have
[05:28] <ubuntu> umm...
[05:28] <ubuntu> it might be a bad burn
[05:28] <fuel> bumzo: welcome back!
[05:28] <ubuntu> or a scratch
[05:28] <ubuntu> you never know
[05:28] <bumzo> when i try write to it ... it says ''access denied, could not write to media/sda1''
[05:28] <bumzo> FUEL
[05:29] <ubuntu> bumzo: are you trying it as root?
[05:29] <bumzo> fuel: i've been looking ollova for u lol
[05:29] <JuJuBee> I am trying to download a new image now.
[05:29] <fuel> bumzo: :) too bad :P
[05:29] <|alex|> there is someone who could help me?
[05:29] <ubuntu> ok, have you had an earlier version working before?
[05:29] <bumzo> ununtu: i tried both as root and as me (bumzo)
[05:29] <fuel> bumzo: so whats your progress?
[05:29] <ubuntu> like 6.06
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: you have to browse to it with a "kdesu konquror"
[05:29] <JuJuBee> This CD works fine in other machines.  I used it to install before
[05:29] <|alex|> contact me in pvt
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: NM then
[05:29] <ubuntu> jujubee: then don't get a new image
[05:29] <ubuntu> jujubee: hmm...
[05:29] <JuJuBee> I also tried 6.06 and that did not boot either
[05:30] <ubuntu> jujubee: do you know that the hard drive is good?
[05:30] <bumzo> nosrednaekim: wahts NM?
[05:31] <waylandbill> never mind
[05:31] <ubuntu> busybox is a weird app to stop an installation ...
[05:31] <JuJuBee> Can't say for sure.  brand new
[05:31] <ubuntu> !info busybox
[05:31] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB
[05:31] <genii> waylandbill Damn, found his answer but gone now
[05:31] <|alex|> SOS
[05:31] <ubuntu> Are you trying to dual boot?
[05:31] <|alex|> help
[05:31] <bumzo> when i pluc it in ... it doesnt automatically mount ... when i mount it from terminal .. i cant wtrit e to it ... only read its ontents
[05:31] <JuJuBee> No
[05:31] <bumzo> Fuel: u there
[05:31] <|alex|> help me
[05:31] <ubuntu> hmm
[05:31] <muuhBDXi> will ubuntu make a USB srive linux distro ?
[05:31] <fuel> bumzo: yep waiting :0
[05:31] <ubuntu> ahh.......
[05:32] <muuhBDXi> will ubuntu make a USB drive linux distro ?
[05:32] <genii> mneisen Still here and/or alive?
[05:32] <muuhBDXi> :D
[05:32] <ubuntu> muuhBDXi: if you want a USB drive linux distro, get DamnSmallLinux
[05:32] <|alex|> someone speak italian?
[05:32] <bumzo> fuel: i dont know what we did earlier ... but i could read flash disks but not my usb external 80GB ntfs disk
[05:32] <muuhBDXi> i dont want dsl
[05:32] <genii> muuhBDXi: You can already install the standard dist on a USB drive or key if it has more than about 3Gb free
[05:32] <bumzo> Fuel: now i cant read my flash disks
[05:33] <ubuntu> jujubee: try a different distro, juju
[05:33] <fuel> bumzo: :o
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> !it > |alex|:
[05:33] <bumzo> fuel :S
[05:33] <livingdaylight> DaSkreech: can't see how it is different to Linux Mint
[05:33] <ubuntu> get damnsmalllinux and then just see if it will run off of the CD
[05:33] <muuhBDXi> my USB drive has 250 megas
[05:33] <waylandbill> genii: what's the answer?
[05:33] <fuel> bumzo: ok do you have vnc installed
[05:33] <fuel> ?
[05:33] <JuJuBee> I tried Kororaa and it seems to tell me the same thing.  Once kernel loads, it forgets how to read the cd
[05:33] <bumzo> fuel: vnc?
[05:33] <fuel> !vnc
[05:33] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:33] <genii> muuhBDXi: You'll be lucky to find anything that will run with some gui on that
[05:34] <JuJuBee> Im using an INTEL board with 965 chipset, if that helps
[05:34] <bumzo> fuel how do i install it? can i use add remove programs?
[05:34] <muuhBDXi> genii are you a missinformation agent ?
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> muuhBDXi: slax
[05:34] <fuel> bumzo: i think its installed by default
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> I think it can fit on 256mb
[05:34] <genii> waylandbill: From http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/diff.1.asp   : When you call it as bdiff, diff computes the differences in chunks of n lines (default 3999). This lets you process arbitrarily large files and generally produces less output than the -h option.
[05:34] <bumzo> fuel: ok, how do i get it?
[05:34] <ubuntu> jujubee: have you tried a floppy install?
[05:34] <muuhBDXi> theres lots of kde distros that run under 250 megas usb drives
[05:34] <ubuntu> jujubee: brb
[05:34] <JuJuBee> No, don't have floppy drive
[05:35] <JuJuBee> K
[05:35] <MidMark> hi, is there something special I have to do to install java-jre6 in a powerpc mac? because it says that it cannot satisfy some dependencies
[05:35] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, I hate to ask, did you partition the drive ?
[05:35] <muuhBDXi> i mean ubuntu has lots of flavours like xubuntu kubuntu etc
[05:35] <bumzo> fuel:i can see ur pvt message but cant reply coz am not registered
[05:35] <muuhBDXi> why not a USB drive distro has well
[05:35] <fuel> oh!
[05:35] <muuhBDXi> ?
[05:35] <JuJuBee> No, haven't been able to boot yet
[05:35] <genii> muuhBDXi: You can copy over the casper boot dist from the CD but I think you need even about 800Mb for that
[05:36] <fuel> bumzo: now did you try asking in #linux ?
[05:36] <genii> (if you want to install stuff)
[05:36] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee,I presume the pc came with windows ?
[05:36] <fuel> bumzo: did you install ntfs ?
[05:36] <fuel> !ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:36] <fuel> !ntfs-3g
[05:36] <JuJuBee> No, bought parts   to build it.
[05:36] <waylandbill> genii: that's only for the mkstoolkit's diff.
[05:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:36] <ubuntu> !reiserfs
[05:36] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[05:37] <fuel> notorious ?
[05:37] <ubuntu> !ext3
[05:37] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:37] <ubuntu> lol
[05:37] <genii> waylandbill Really? Damn, thought I had it for a minute there :(
[05:37] <fuel> thats very very partial
[05:37] <ubuntu> lol
[05:37] <bumzo> fuel : installed ntfs-3g sucessufly yes
[05:37] <ubuntu> !echo
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <fuel> actually i used reiser fs when using suse and it was damn good
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> fuel: probably his wife wrote that
[05:37] <ubuntu> !info echo
[05:37] <ubotu> Package echo does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:37] <fuel> nosrednaekim: :D
[05:37] <ubuntu> what is the POINT of echo other than SH scripts?
[05:38] <lilalinux> my kubuntu 6.06 doens't have knetworkmanager in it's repository. Where can I find it?
[05:38] <ubuntu> !info knetworkmanager
[05:38] <bumzo> fuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10029/
[05:38] <genii> waylandbill: Interestingly, man bdiff produces a page on my dapper box
[05:38] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[05:38] <ubuntu> it is in the repos, lilalinux
[05:38] <ubuntu> do this:
[05:38] <fuel> even knetstats is very good
[05:38] <ubuntu> lilalinux: open up a terminal and type this:
[05:39] <fuel> bumzo: you have lots of patience :) anyway type vncserver
[05:39] <bumzo> fuel: there is a command we ran earlier that got it writing and reading much earleir in the day. I rebooted my system, then it stopped the mounting
[05:39] <DaSkreech> !It | |Alex|
[05:39] <ubotu> |Alex|: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:39] <fuel> bumzo: so read and wrote ? very good :)
[05:39] <ubuntu> lilalinux: cd /etc/apt/ && sudo EDITOR (i used vim) sources.list
[05:39] <fuel> bumzo: what command did you try ? ( which worked)
[05:39] <ubuntu> add universe multiverse to both of the repository lines
[05:39] <fuel> !knetstats
[05:39] <ubotu> knetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB
[05:39] <lilalinux> ubuntu: thx
[05:40] <bumzo> fuel: perfectly (on flash disks i.e) which are fat32 i even transfered several files
[05:40] <ubuntu> lilalinux: np
[05:40] <bumzo> fuel: thats what i dont rmember lol
[05:40] <fuel> bumzo: fat32 works without problem man
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: fat32 is different from ntfs...
[05:40] <ubuntu> no di
[05:40] <ubuntu> dip
[05:40] <ubuntu> !nfs
[05:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:40] <ubuntu> !cdfs
[05:40] <bumzo> fuel: bash: vncserver: command not found
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <ubuntu> sorry guys i just wanna see if they're biased anymore
[05:41] <bumzo> ubuntu ..am aware of that yes
[05:41] <fuel> ok "sudo apt-get install vncserver"
[05:41] <ubuntu> lol
[05:41] <fuel> !vncserver
[05:41] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB
[05:41] <federicoC81> hello everybody can i please ask for an help with wireless?
[05:41] <ubuntu> OOH OOH ME
[05:41] <ubuntu> ME
[05:41] <ubuntu> ME
[05:41] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> federicoC81: you may
[05:42] <ubuntu> !info madwifi
[05:42] <ubotu> Package madwifi does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:42] <ubuntu> aw
[05:42] <mneisen> genii: still alive and kicking :-D
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> !info madwifi-ng
[05:42] <bumzo> ubuntu: 	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10001/ thats the root of all my probs lol
[05:42] <ubotu> Package madwifi-ng does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:43] <federicoC81> i have problems connecting to w-lans protected by WEP
[05:43] <federicoC81> i tried to use both wlassitant and wifi-radar with the same result
[05:43] <bumzo> fuel: am loking up upon u ... u are my saviour
[05:44] <federicoC81> that is it doesn't get an IP
[05:44] <genii> mneisen Thought I had it earlier but looks like not. Still, looking around.
[05:44] <ubuntu_> k
[05:44] <ubuntu_> oh man
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i messed up
[05:44] <fuel> ubuntu : help bumzo
[05:45] <ubuntu_> fuel: what does bumzo need?
[05:45] <fuel> ubuntu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10001/
[05:45] <mneisen> genii: OK, thank you.
[05:45] <DaSkreech> yo aseigo
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> !CNR
[05:46] <federicoC81> !CNR
[05:46] <fuel> ubuntu_: he wants to mount and read/write stuff but something is coming inbetween
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <fuel> :O
[05:46] <ubuntu_> bumzo: what type of FS is on your external disk?
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> !WEP | federicoC81
[05:46] <ubotu> federicoC81: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:46] <fuel> is ubuntu going ahead with cnr + adept ?
[05:46] <ubuntu_> dunno
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> fuel: I think so..I hope its in fiesty
[05:46] <nosrednaekim>  /. has an article on it today
[05:46] <ubuntu_> BUMZOO: WHAT FS IS ON YOUR EXTERNAL FLASH DISK
[05:46] <bumzo> ubuntu: NTFS ... its a toshiba slim disk
[05:46] <fuel> but what are the advantages? and adept has everything!
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> fuel: you can get "illegal" codecs
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> legally
[05:47] <fuel> nosrednaekim: :))
[05:47] <bumzo> ubuntu: fuel: you wanna see my /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab contents
[05:47] <lilalinux> ubuntu_: "apt-cache search knetworkmanager" returns no result, even after apt-get update
[05:47] <fuel> i am all for cnr+adept! :)
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah... me too
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> as long as they leave adpet
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> *adept
[05:48] <fuel> :)
[05:48] <ubuntu_> bumzo: what about this: mount /dev/sda1 ntfs /media/sda1
[05:48] <ubuntu_> you don't want to format it tho...
[05:48] <Lynoure> lilalinux: apt-cache search network manager   is more fault tolerant
[05:48] <ubuntu_> lilalinux: are you using command line apt or adept?
[05:48] <ubuntu_> !info adept
[05:48] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:49] <timster> How can I allow a window to be in two different desktops if its half way between, without beryl
[05:49] <lilalinux> ubuntu_: commandline
[05:49] <ubuntu_> lilalinux: try apt-get install adept and then run adept and search for knetworkmanager
[05:49] <lilalinux> k
[05:50] <timster> !windows behaviour
[05:50] <ubuntu_> !botsnack
[05:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:50] <bumzo> ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10032/
[05:50] <ubuntu_> bumzo: i saw it
[05:51] <nosrednaekim> fuel: whats wrong with beryl?
[05:51] <pinguin_> #channels
[05:51] <ubuntu_> bumzo: did you actually look in the error log?
[05:51] <bumzo> ubuntu: i'll be very frank .. NO
[05:51] <yacoob> Greetings.
[05:51] <ubuntu_> buzo: (in konsole) dmesg | tail
[05:51] <yacoob> Is there a FAQ somewhere how to integrate firefox with kde smoothly?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> that should give you your error report
[05:52] <fuel> nosrednaekim: i dont have a hardware that can support it :(
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> fuel: what kinda video card?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> yacoob: just do like apt-get install firefox
[05:52] <ubuntu_> fuel: what kinda video card?
[05:52] <waylandbill> genii: mneisen: I found source for bdiff here: http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/tools.html
[05:53] <fuel> mine is just inbuild 64MB card (shared memory)
[05:53] <timster> !firefox
[05:53] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:53] <ubuntu_> fuel: then don't complain
[05:53] <fuel> :D
[05:53] <timster> !firefox2
[05:53] <yacoob> ubuntu_, there's more than that :)
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <mneisen> waylandbill: Great!
[05:53] <timster> How can I install firefox 2
[05:53] <ubuntu_> fuel: any 128mb vidcard will be better than a 64 integrated
[05:53] <yacoob> ie, integrating with alt-f2 'g something'
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> fuel: that doesn't neccesarily rule it out... is it an Intel?
[05:53] <mneisen> I was looking for bdiff but could not find a free version of it.
[05:53] <ubuntu_> timster: apt-get install firefox
[05:53] <fuel> nosrednaekim: yes
[05:54] <timster> ubuntu_: Thats only 1.5
[05:54] <timster> I want firefox 2
[05:54] <DaSkreech> timster: Are you on dapper?
[05:54] <ubuntu_> timster: apt-get update firefox
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> timster: areyou on dapper?
[05:54] <timster> Im 6.06
[05:54] <anything> !resolution
[05:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:54] <genii> waylandbill Cool, yer da man :)
[05:54] <ubuntu_> timster: mozilla.com
[05:54] <bumzo> ubuntu: i've read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10035/
[05:54] <vlt> Hello. Where does konqueror store the sites I once said "never store passwords for"?
[05:54] <bmgs> i can i upgrade my kubuntu to 7 ?
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> fuel: is it a i835?
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> fuel: or grater
[05:55] <fuel> nosrednaekim: no idea about that .
[05:55] <ubuntu_> vit: whereever your mom will find them
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> fuel: do a dmsg for it..
[05:55] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim: you mean dmesg?
[05:56] <gentoofan23> yeah.
[05:56] <ubuntu_> gentoofan: gentoo sucks
[05:56] <timster> Komplie is rubish
[05:56] <bumzo> ubuntu: look at the log ... looks perfectly fine
[05:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, don't start aflame ...we already went thru this a day ago
[05:57] <bumzo> yet i still cant access the flash
[05:57] <mneisen> waylandbill: OK, bdiff seems to be the right tool, but how to apply these patches to big files? I guess that patch has the same (or similar) limitations as diff has?!
[05:57] <timster> !komplie
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about komplie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <_Johny> Hello everyone. I've got a problem related to compiling. Would anyone be so nice to take a look on the log_
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: fuel: yeah "dmesg"
[05:57] <_Johny> ?
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> _Johny: pastebin it
[05:57] <waylandbill> heirloom may have a matching patch
[05:57] <bumzo> fuel: you still there
[05:57] <gentoofan23> gentoo  is great for advanced users....besides, you should be thankful I am helping out your ubuntu people.
[05:58] <timster> Can someone walk me through compiling a package
[05:58] <_Johny> nosrednaekim: here ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10036/
[05:58] <gentoofan23> I can.
[05:58] <gentoofan23> Now, first thing you do is unpack the source package.
[05:59] <gentoofan23> What is the name of your package: timster?
[05:59] <_Johny> !search compiling
[05:59] <timster> Ok
[05:59] <ubotu> Found: build-essential, gcc, b-e, make, build-essentials, compile, g++, compiling, build, compiler
[05:59] <gino> ciao
[05:59] <timster> Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <_Johny> !compile | timster
[05:59] <ubotu> timster: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:59] <timster> firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[06:00] <gentoofan23> ok, do this "tar xvzf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz"
[06:00] <_Johny> timster: Isn't firefox in the repositories?
[06:00] <gentoofan23> Also, doesn't kubuntu have that version of firefox?
[06:00] <timster> Not 2
[06:00] <timster> Only 1.5
[06:00] <timster> Im on 6.06
[06:00] <gentoofan23> !firefox2
[06:00] <timster> and it only has 1.5
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <gentoofan23> Ok, that makes sense then.
[06:00] <keesercc> automatix on fiesty fawn Kubuntu?
[06:00] <timster> Ok, I have done that
[06:01] <bumzo> ubuntu: u there?
[06:01] <timster> cd firefox?
[06:01] <waylandbill> mneisen: I don't think you need to worry about patch. I'm pretty sure it'll just fseek to the appropriate places.
[06:01] <gentoofan23> yeah, "cd firefox
[06:02] <timster> Ok
[06:02] <mneisen> waylandbill: OK, will try to use bdiff. Thanks for your help!
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> timster: http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2006/10/26/firefox-2-ubuntu-610/
[06:02] <gentoofan23> now do "./configure"
[06:03] <timster> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:03] <gentoofan23> Just a sec....
[06:04] <gentoofan23> I am unpacking firefox-<IP_ADDRESS> and that tarball uncompresses into "mozilla/"
[06:05] <BluesKaj> timster , is the folder in another folder in your /home ?
[06:05] <timster> I have found an installl file
[06:05] <timster> Im gonna give it ago
[06:05] <gentoofan23> ok.
[06:05] <BluesKaj> if that's case get rid of the second folder . cut and paste it into home , then cd to the dir in the terminal
[06:06] <BluesKaj> this seems to happen a lot lately with some pkgs .../folders in folders in /home
[06:10] <julle> !quicktime
[06:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <genii> waylandbill bdiff compiled OK on my dapper box. I renamed it bigdiff. Trying it on 2 dvd iso images
[06:12] <waylandbill> genii: nice! :-)
[06:13] <bumzo> fuse: i have made pregress
[06:13] <bumzo> progress*
[06:13] <bumzo> i have mounted the flash using ''sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1'' which worked
[06:13] <bumzo> but i cant write to it
[06:13] <bumzo> ubuntu : u there?
[06:13] <waylandbill> genii: watch the generated patch be as big as the iso itself. ;-)
[06:14] <DjDarkman> hy ,does compiz work with kde?
[06:14] <gentoofan23> DjDarkman, with KDE, you should use beryl
[06:14] <gentoofan23> !beryl
[06:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <genii> waylandbill Likely :) Tho the 2 images are almost the same. 1 is a modified version of the other where I had to repair some vob files and such
[06:15] <jann> hi, i'm having problems to get firefox in spanish. i have one user where i use it in german and i want another one in spanish. i installed mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es via adept but it doesnt appear in spanish. when i turn off the german language pack it stays in english. any ideas?
[06:16] <jhutchins> jann: No clue really, but if you have to turn the german language pack off, I suspect you have to turn the spanish language pack on.
[06:16] <jann> jhutchins: its turned on
[06:17] <bmgs> i cant open automatix because i m running adept .. how can i stop it if i can see it
[06:17] <rlj> having problem with the kde media manager, where it mounts a cdrom (and other storage media) just after i close kde's popup, even if i hit cancel or select "do nothing" and hit ok. it hasn't behaved like that before and it's clearly wrong. anyone else with this behaviour?
[06:17] <jhutchins> jann: Could be you have to turn german off, revert to english, turn spanish on?
[06:18] <jhutchins> rlj: Have you set any particular device to auto-mount?
[06:18] <jann> jhutchins: when i turn all the language packs off, it comes in english, when i turn on the spanish one, still
[06:19] <jhutchins> jann: Any luck in #firefox then?
[06:19] <rlj> jhutchins: i haven't actively told anything to automount
[06:19] <jann> jhutchins: no, so far no response
[06:20] <rlj> jhutchins: before, it would give me the popup on any media insert and if i hit "open in a new window", konq would open and automount upon access. if i hit cancel however, it would remain unmounted. this is what i want. now, however, even if i hit cancel, kde goes ahead and mounts it anyway (and i can even see the mount process dialog for a second (when my cd drive spins up))
[06:20] <jann> jhutchins: its strange: it works with the german lp, but not with the spanish one
[06:21] <rlj> jhutchins: i have no idea when this behavior got introduced, but upon booting the edgy livecd, i can see that it is indeed not the default behaviour. there, if i hit cancel, it will not mount anything...
[06:23] <rlj> jhutchins: and i don't have ivman installed, so it can't get messed up by that either...
[06:24] <dromer> hi all, atm I'm trying to have dual-screen on my htpc with the composite-out of my Geforce2/MX. I used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=  and it works quite well, but is there another way to have the 2nd screen as an actual extension of the desktop? so I can move programs and maximise them etc?  this would be quit helpfull since I can hardly read any text and stuff on my tv
[06:26] <rlj> so does anyone know how to trace what process is actually calling hal (through kde's media manager i believe) to mount the external device?
[06:26] <rlj> tried dbus-monitor on the system bus but to no avail
[06:29] <fdoving> rlj: what do you want to know? mediamanager is a kded module, it is responsible for such things.
[06:30] <rlj> fdoving: i want to know why mediamanager (or something else through kde's interfaces) automounts everything i insert after i close the popup, even if i tell it "do nothing" or hit cancel in the dialog. (it should only mount if i do "open in new window" or similar)
[06:31] <c0nv1ct> rlj: that is asking you 'what to do' with the new mount, not whether or not to mount it
[06:31] <rlj> well, if i boot the kubuntu edgy livecd, it acts the way i expect
[06:31] <c0nv1ct> rlj: similar to what Windows does when it gets a CD inserted, it asks you what you want to do with this new CD
[06:32] <rlj> and also, i remember it acted like that before as well, at least when i still ran dapper. not sure about after my edgy upgrade
[06:32] <c0nv1ct> rlj: i'm not sure what you mean by acting as you expect while using the livecd
[06:32] <rlj> so when booting the edgy livecd, kde will NOT mount the medium if i hit cancel in the dialog
[06:33] <rlj> it will however mount it if i hit "open in new window" which calls up a konq on that path which will mount it upon trying to access the location
[06:33] <fdoving> that has changed, since dapper.
[06:33] <rlj> i know for certain it did not act like this before.
[06:33] <rlj> is there a way to disable that behaviour?
[06:34] <rlj> (but it might be as you say, the behaviour switch occured between dapper and edgy. i don't remember exactely when i noticed this behaviour happening)
[06:35] <waylandbill> rlj: the kcontrol center has options to disable that dialog
[06:35] <rlj> i think the popup is really nice because i can easily automount if i want to, but not if i don't for example if i want to repartition it. or the stupid usb key registers as multiple devices where only one is the interesting one.. things like that.
[06:35] <rlj> the problem is:
[06:36] <rlj> if i (for my cd drive for example) set "do nothing" as the default action in kcontrol
[06:36] <rlj> all that does is suppress the popup. then the cd gets automounted anyway, but without any dialog blocking the action first
[06:37] <sparrw> using CUPS configured through KDE, I need to figure out why my print jobs are not actually printing.  help?
[06:37] <genii> sparrw local or remote printer?
[06:38] <waylandbill> rlj: you probably need to add noauto to the fstab entry
[06:38] <rlj> waylandbill: i don't have any static fstab entries for my usb keys
[06:38] <rlj> waylandbill: i want kde not to automount when i explicitly tell it to "do nothing" through kcontrol... this clearly seems like buggy behaviour to me
[06:38] <waylandbill> rlj: I thought you were refering to cdrom drive.
[06:39] <sparrw> genii: remote
[06:39] <fdoving> rlj: i can confirm that devices strangely enought still mounts even if i toggle the 'right-click on device -> properties -> mounter -> automount checkbox'
[06:39] <rlj> waylandbill: same thing happens no matter what kind i configure in kcontrol for
[06:39] <waylandbill> sparrw: the ip address for the remote cups server is correct?
[06:39] <sparrw> waylandbill: local CUPS, remote printer
[06:39] <fyrmedic> How do I figure out what /dev file my GPS is attached to if it is in a USB port?
[06:40] <genii> sparrw More questions :) Is it connected directly to the network/lan or hosted on some print server computer/embedded device or over the internet somewhere?
[06:40] <waylandbill> spa
[06:40] <sparrw> genii: its connected directly to the LAN
[06:40] <space_ninja> Which dc clients does kubuntu have?
[06:40] <waylandbill> sparrw: then the remote printer then.
[06:40] <sparrw> waylandbill: yes
[06:41] <genii> sparrw Then I would suggest setting it up as a generic networked Postscript printer
[06:41] <sparrw> genii: i will try that
[06:42] <genii> sparrw There have been some other issues lately with IPP printers over CUPS as well. If generic postscript network printer doesn't work, change the print system to use lpd
[06:43] <rlj> fdoving: never checked that dialog, but yeah, that tickbox is not enabled on my system either
[06:44] <fdoving> rlj: it's not mounted until you close the popup, right?
[06:44] <JuJuBee> Is there a live cd for Feisty somewhere?  I read that the INTEL g965 express chipset has issues  with ubuntu 6.10 due to kernel version?
[06:44] <fdoving> rlj: when the box is unchecked. if you check it, it's mounted at once.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  thers livecd images on the feisty download page
[06:45] <rlj> fdoving: that's correct, kde only mounts once i close the popup dialog. (if i however in kcontrol tell it to have "do nothing" as default action, the dialog never appears and it mounts straight away nevertheless)
[06:45] <fdoving> JuJuBee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[06:45] <Daskreech> crimsun: ping
[06:45] <fdoving> rlj: ok. i'll have a look.
[06:45] <c0nv1ct> rlj: why do you want it not to mount?
[06:47] <sparrw> it works as generic postscript
[06:47] <sparrw> not as the actual printer model
[06:47] <sparrw> should i bug report?  if so, how can i get more info on the failing jobs
[06:47] <genii> sparrw OK, good :) This happens often
[06:48] <rlj> c0nv1ct: i'll give you some examples. 1) i have a usb key which registers as a "cd writer" and a "usb mass storage device". i don't want the "cd writer" to mount (which only contains some system stuff), as i want to be able to quickly right-click on the actual usb-key-mountpoint and do "safely remove". 2) same thing with my ipod really since i have a second ext2 partition on it as well. i don't usually want that to mount, so most of the time the vfat is all i'm
[06:48] <rlj> interested in. i want to be able to right-click on the vfat mountpoint and do "safely remove", not caring about the other partition
[06:48] <genii> sparrw No, no bug report is neccesary
[06:49] <c0nv1ct> rlj: i didnt think that 'safely remove' thing even worked
[06:49] <rlj> c0nv1ct: and with cd's, i only want them to mount if i actually open the window to browse it. otherwise, i want it to sit in my drive. with a dvd for example, you can play it fine in mplayer without having it mounted
[06:49] <rlj> c0nv1ct: has worked quite well for me
[06:49] <rlj> in either way, i don't like doing "eject /dev/sda" if i have sda1 and sda2 mounted...
[06:49] <genii> c0nv1ct: I imagine it's only an alias for "eject"
[06:50] <rlj> c0nv1ct: no, i think that context menu actually does some hal magic. but i'm not sure
[06:51] <rlj> fdoving: any ideas? if you have a spare kubuntu edgy livecd (and computer), try booting it and see how it reacts to a usb key there
[06:51] <rlj> genii: c0nv1ct: no, i think that context menu actually does some hal magic. but i'm not sure
[06:52] <bumzo> i need help here
[06:53] <bumzo> i can mount my flash but not write to it
[06:53] <bumzo> how do i fix that?
[06:53] <genii> I think maybe a sync routine in there
[06:53] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: you have to mount it with options
[06:53] <rlj> bumzo: what filesystem is on the flash?
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: if its NTF, makesure you have ntfs-3g installed
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> *ntfs
[06:54] <genii> bumzo:  What options are you giving the mount command?
[06:54] <bumzo> I have ntfs intsalled
[06:54] <grego_> is it possible to use different icon set than default in gtk apps (under kde)? , tango for example
[06:54] <c0nv1ct> i doubt the flash drive is ntfs, i've only seen fat32 and fat16
[06:54] <bumzo> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 to mount
[06:54] <bumzo> no no .. the flash is FAT32
[06:54] <dromer> hi all, I'm trying Xinerama now for my dual-screen setup, though I;m not sure how to handle the composite-out and the tv connected in xorg.conf since the guide on ubuntuforums only explains a setup with two generic monitors
[06:54] <bumzo> genii: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[06:55] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: try sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[06:55] <genii> bumzo perhaps use:  sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,user /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: can you write while being in root?
[06:55] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:56] <edward_> wondering if anyone can help me with a problems reading dvd?
[06:56] <edward_> it plays jerky
[06:56] <edward_> I have i386 software running on amd 64 system
[06:56] <rlj> edward_: run "hdparm /dev/hdX" where hdX is your dvd drive and check that DMA is on
[06:58] <bumzo> c0nv1ct: sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 for the FAT 32 cflash disk
[06:58] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: yes, or include -t vfat before the -o part
[06:58] <edward_> tried hdparm and says no such directory
[06:58] <bumzo> However .. i have an external usb 80GB HDD ntfs ... i can read it but not write...it mounts automatically
[06:58] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: i dont have to specify the type for mine, but it doesnt hurt to
[06:59] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: you shouldnt write to ntfs anyway
[06:59] <jhutchins_wk> !ntfs
[06:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:00] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: adding the uid=1000 option will make the owner of the files on there the first user your started with, if you use a different one, use that users UID instead
[07:01] <rlj> edward_: try "hdparm /dev/dvd"
[07:01] <rlj> edward_: and make sure "using_dma" says "1 (on)"
[07:02] <edward_> it says dma is on
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> edward_: do you have 3d acceleration?
[07:02] <edward_> hdparm /dev/dvd worked
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> maybe your video card can't handle it
[07:03] <edward_> was wondering if I should switch to amd64 kubuntu?
[07:03] <sparrw> i added the kpf applet to my panel, and set up a server with a folder, but i cant drop files from konqueror onto it.  whats up with that?
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> edward_: nah... that wouldn't improve anything
[07:04] <c0nv1ct> edward_: i wouldnt, unless you specifically need 64bit apps, or have a ton of RAM
[07:04] <edward_> i had amd64 loaded and it worked but didn't like the fact couldn't get macromedia work to download
[07:04] <edward_> that's why I went back to i386
[07:04] <jhutchins_wk> edward_: The 64b stuff is not as well developed as fewer developers can afford 64b machines to play with.  A lot of multimedia is hard to get as there are no w64codecs.
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> edward_: yeah... thats fine... do you have 3d acceleration?
[07:05] <c0nv1ct> edward_: 64bit is a hassle, its not worth it really
[07:05] <edward_> I'm using the onboard video
[07:05] <c0nv1ct> maybe in a year or 2, 64bit will be ready
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> c0nv1ct: I'm running it...but it sure wasn't easy
[07:06] <gioacchino> hello
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> I still don't have java
[07:06] <jhutchins_wk> The hard part is getting the propietary stuff reverse-engineered.
[07:06] <edward_> how can I check for which type of video I'm running
[07:06] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: lol tell me about it... i spent a week on it, and just decided to reinstall to i386
[07:06] <jhutchins_wk> edward_: What do you mean?
[07:06] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: i still have XP x64 and Vista x64 installed too... such BS
[07:06] <jhutchins_wk> edward_: Do you want to know the card or chipset, or what driver you're using.
[07:07] <edward_> Vista Suckssss!!!! LOL
[07:07] <genii> YamiTenshi: Please use the website http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to paste the exact error. then report back the pastebin url
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> edward_: do "glxinfo"
[07:07] <c0nv1ct> Vista is ok, i like the volume tool
[07:07] <edward_> actually like to know if I have the proper driver installed for configuration
[07:07] <c0nv1ct> too much DRM madness though
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> and read the first three lines
[07:08] <jhutchins_wk> edward_: lspci should show you the chipset info.
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> c0nv1ct: I'm getting a free upgrade... we'll see how it goes
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> jhutchinsahh good call
[07:08] <genii> Sorry, wrong channel :) For #ubuntu
[07:08] <bumzo> c0nv1ct: so u mean to say i cannot mount the ntfs flash external HDD ??
[07:08] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: hope you got signed drivers for everything :P
[07:08] <BluesKaj> Hmmm, just saw a fan promoting vista on tv, calling it 'cool' etc, but downplaying it's program compatability shortcomings
[07:08] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: you can mount it, but i wouldnt write to it
[07:08] <rlj> fdoving: i added a rule to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi where i set storage.automount_enabled_hint=false for my cd drive and restarted hald. kde-hal-device-manager confirms the change (it was true by default). still, kdemediamanager behaves just the same... :(
[07:08] <engelzz> hiho
[07:08] <lupul> can anyone help me pls with the usplash?
[07:09] <edward_> what info do you need from 1st three lines?
[07:09] <lorderunion> hi. i'm having trouble setting up dual monitors.
[07:09] <lupul> !usplash
[07:09] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:09] <engelzz> i have a little problem: i have a voodoo banshee but on kdm start it just restarts kdm infinity
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> c0nv1ct: it'll be 32 bit... no worry about that
[07:09] <c0nv1ct> Vista is pretty cool, its got some nice improvements, but i won't pay $400 bucks for Ultimate
[07:09] <JuJuBee> What version of the linnux kernel doed Feisty use?  Edgy?
[07:09] <bumzo> c0nv1ct: yes .... i meant have write acces.....coz it mounts sucessfully but i cant write to it ,.... how cum?
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> edward_: look at the line direct rendering.. does it say yes or no?
[07:09] <lorderunion> i've got an internal ati output on my motherboard, and an nvidia card.
[07:09] <Tm_T> JuJuBee: packages.ubuntu.com might help.
[07:09] <edward_> direct rendering says no
[07:09] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: writing to NTFS is considered experimental... it may work, but there is a risk of data loss
[07:10] <JuJuBee> Thanx
[07:10] <fdoving> rlj: i'm looking at mediamanager now.
[07:10] <bumzo> c0nv1ct: ok .. .i get it
[07:10] <sparrw> i have two kubuntu machines installed as edgy then migrated to feisty on slightly different timelines.  one has 'run command' kde shortcut as Alt+F2, the other Super+R.  whats up with that?
[07:11] <bumzo> c0nv1ct: one more problem.... it seems i have to keep on running that command whenever i plug in my usb flash disk. it does not auto mount
[07:11] <BayRoot> how to get FlashPlayer for AMD64??
[07:11] <rlj> fdoving: thank you
[07:11] <c0nv1ct> sparrw: you can change shortcuts if you want
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> edward_: do " lspci | grep VGA"
[07:11] <lorderunion> i'm having trouble setting up dual monitors with ati and nvidia. any help?
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> and make sure vga is capitalized
[07:12] <BluesKaj> darn, what's the trick again to get the browser to open fullpage ,FF was hijacked by a website that did something that changed the page size :(
[07:12] <hans> hi..I have a question.. I'm using ubuntu and I used to use red hat, now I'm trying to check the Known_host file unde .ssh but I dont find it
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> edward_: and paste that line here
[07:12] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: mine automounted the first time i put it in, but it didnt when i just tried a second ago... so i dunno
[07:12] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: but i am running vmware right now, that could be why
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: f11?
[07:12] <sparrw> c0nv1ct: i know, but why are they different?
[07:13] <jhutchins_wk> hans: Perhaps you don't have one?
[07:13] <c0nv1ct> sparrw: its possible that one found your proper keyboard and decided to make use of the win key
[07:13] <c0nv1ct> sparrw: or maybe the different versions of KDE have different defaults
[07:13] <edward_> it says nvidia
[07:13] <gioacchino> anybody want to help me ??
[07:13] <edward_> vga compatible controller
[07:13] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, F11 just makes it fullsrcn
[07:13] <sparrw> c0nv1ct: plausible, im using a mac keyboard on the one using alt+f2
[07:14] <BluesKaj> i want the browser to open 'full page '
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> edward_: get the binary nvidia drivers then.
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh...I c..
[07:14] <sparrw> c0nv1ct: speaking of...  is there any way to get the mac keyboard f14-f16 to behave like pc print/scroll/pause keys?
[07:14] <edward_> will the bin nvidia drivers take care of dvd problem?
[07:15] <edward_> how do I get the files
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> edward_: they probably will
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> edward_: they are in the repositories..
[07:15] <c0nv1ct> sparrw: not sure, go to System Settings and select Keyboard, then under Keyboard Shortcuts, you can change that stuf there
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | edward_
[07:15] <ubotu> edward_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:15] <c0nv1ct> sparrw: i know there is a 'Mac Scheme' option
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[07:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:17] <frojnd> if I wanna install java for firefox, than: udo apt-get install sun-java5-jre   and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin , but what if I wanna install java for opera??
[07:17] <dromer> ok, I'm really having some problems getting Xinerama/twinview w/e to work. I want to extend my desktop to a tv using the composite-out of my Geforce2, can anybody help me? :$
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> dromer: if noone here can help, try over at #ubuntu
[07:18] <dromer> nosrednaekim: yeah, thnx
[07:19] <_eMaX_> what is the easiest way to remove links to one /etc/init.d script from all /etc/rc*.d's there was a script yet I've forgotten
[07:20] <genii> frojnd: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#java
[07:20] <frojnd> genii: tnx
[07:20] <lahcen> hi guys,
[07:22] <lahcen> what should i do to upgrade from kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 without downloading the ISO
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[07:22] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:23] <fdoving> lahcen: you can have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[07:26] <genii> lahcen Minimal install iso for feisty is only about 8M
[07:27] <rlj> fdoving: i really have to leave now, but thanks for your time. i'll disable the mediamanager from kcontrol as a temporary workaround, but that takes away all popups and forces me to mount all cdroms from yakuake since they won't even show up in media:/ ... usb devices do show up in media:/ though so those work alright now. just without the popup...
[07:27] <lahcen> the problem with that is many other things will not be installed, and i just don't have the patience to install them one by one, the minimal install that is!
[07:28] <stamen> hi
[07:28] <stamen> please tell me how to load this module -> intel_rng
[07:29] <lahcen> for example, a couple of days ago, i did the upgrade and there was a bug, so I guess it didn't finish the upgrade
[07:29] <bill57785> ok, so I manually reformatted my compact flash card last night in an attempt to install the Palm OS on it for this lifedrive
[07:29] <fdoving> rlj: if i manage to fix it i'll make sure the fix is included in the next possible release.
[07:29] <bill57785> anyways, I dont think it worked, and now the CF card won't show up on linux....somebody told me I had to manually mount it then reformatted it
[07:29] <bill57785> how do I do this?
[07:29] <genii> lahcen I tried the recommended upgrade route/method fdoving just gave the link for to upgrade on my laptop but afterwards itwas pretty fubar and had to eventually resort to cd install
[07:30] <rlj> fdoving: in what package is the kde media manager?
[07:30] <fdoving> rlj: kdebase.
[07:30] <rlj> fdoving: thank you so much, i'll try and post a bug on launchpad as well
[07:30] <fdoving> rlj: please do.
[07:30] <rlj> fdoving: btw, is this because of kubuntu or upstream kde media manager?
[07:31] <stamen> it is located here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10064/
[07:31] <stamen> this is the problem
[07:31] <fdoving> rlj: i'm not sure. kubuntu patches kdebase pretty hard wrt. the media:/ behavior.
[07:31] <lahcen> genii: ouch, because if i do a cd install the wirelss adapter doesn't work
[07:31] <rlj> fdoving: oh, yeah i rememeber that..
[07:32] <stamen> but in the listed folder there is this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10065/, so how to fix it and to make it work
[07:32] <rlj> fdoving: in my opinion, i prefer the old media:/ behaviour. at least i know it acts differently because it's kio. whereas now, /media is somehow magical. but there are benefits as well... i hope the future holds a neater solution! (cause media:/ sure isn't neat either)
[07:32] <rlj> good night you all
[07:32] <fdoving> nite, and bye.
[07:33] <bumzo> c0nv1ct:wahts vmware abt?
[07:33] <rlj> btw, can i disconnect in konversation and still keep the history? i just want to disconnect, but /quit closes the tabs as well
[07:33] <bill57785> how can I manually mount this compact flash card?
[07:34] <bonbonthejon> bill57785: it didnt automatically mount?
[07:34] <bill57785> no
[07:34] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: what is vmware? its a virtual machine, it allows you to run different OS inside of your current one
[07:35] <bill57785> I partitioned it last night (its a long story) and now I need to repartition it
[07:35] <bill57785> but when I plug it in, it doesn't mount
[07:35] <genii> bill57785: What device again does it see it as?
[07:35] <genii> bill57785: Still struggling with the palmos I see
[07:35] <bill57785> the CHS values are really wierd for it (I partitioned it for a palm LifeDrive), so a lot of forums keep telling me I need to just delete all the partitions instead of mounting them
[07:36] <bill57785> yep ^_^
[07:38] <genii> bill57785: What /dev is the drive using?
[07:38] <edward_> anyone know how I can get real player to work?
[07:38] <keesercc> is this a good place to ge help with cups?
[07:39] <genii> keesercc: Good as any
[07:39] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Shouldn't be mounted if you want to alter partitions.
[07:39] <bumzo>  c0nv1ct: how do i install it? sudo apt-get vmware?
[07:39] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: You mount partitions, not devices.
[07:39] <keesercc> ok, I was trying to determine if this is a problem or not:
[07:39] <keesercc> Unable to bind socket for address <IP_ADDRESS>:631 - Address already in use.
[07:39] <bill57785> I guess I stated my problem wrong
[07:39] <bill57785> it doesn't even show up under media anymore
[07:39] <bill57785> nothing happens when I plug it in
[07:39] <keesercc> that is in my /var/log/cups/error_log
[07:39] <bill57785> its as though it weren't even there
[07:40] <c0nv1ct> bumzo: vmware workstation isnt free, you can read up on it at vmware.com
[07:40] <keesercc> there is also: Unable to bind socket for address :::631 - Address already in use
[07:40] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: tail -f /var/log/messages, then unplug it and plug it in.  You should see which device it becomes (probably /dev/sda).
[07:40] <genii> jhutchins_wk He followed the instructions here http://hackndev.com/node/196 for his palmos but of course now after the partition table edit, linux has some issues
[07:41] <bill57785> it's sda1
[07:41] <keesercc> and when I run: ps -A | grep cupsd, I get about 4 things that show up.  Is that normal?
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Probably should be using http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Have a look at that, see if it makes sense.
[07:42] <bill57785> lol
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Meanwhile, fdisk -l /dev/sda will show you the partitions.
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: The _device_ is /dev/sda.  /dev/sda1 is the first partition on the device.
[07:43] <PhinnFort> how can I get verbose output from the configure script when installing a package?
[07:43] <bill57785> actually, I was using the wiki...and as genii can tell you, the wiki actually screwed up some of the commands that I was supposed to use
[07:43] <genii> jhutchins_wk That page has a typo in the part you cut/paste for the partition table edit. A $GT was accidentally transposed instead of being > so the edit doesn't take.
[07:43] <huib>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Smeets18
[07:43] <genii> &gt rather than $GT
[07:43] <keesercc> anyone with the cups problems?
[07:44] <PhinnFort> D?
[07:44] <keesercc> or questions
[07:44] <bill57785> ok, so how do I delete the sda1 partition?
[07:44] <PhinnFort> bill57785: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[07:45] <genii> bill57785: You gonna do it all over again ?
[07:45] <bill57785> might as well
[07:45] <bill57785> it will go faster this time because I have everything working properly
[07:45] <bill57785> ^_^
[07:45] <genii> bill57785: Use the link I gave above. I triple-checked it for typos.
[07:46] <frtmonster> hi, i installed the dvd library, xine, vlc, and mplayer, i have a laptop with a cdrom+dvd in one drive and i still can't get to see a fluent picture\sound this is the error i get in mplayer:  FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)
[07:47] <jhutchins_wk> genii: THat page says http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS is more current.
[07:47] <jhutchins_wk> genii: Ah, I see about the typo.
[07:47] <jhutchins_wk> genii: So fix it - it's a wiki!
[07:48] <bill57785> well there really is no difference between the two, not that I can see
[07:48] <jhutchins_wk> k.
[07:48] <|dthacke|> are man pages for ntp and ntpd in a package?
[07:48] <genii> jhutchins_wk Yes, but go to the part where you are supposed to cut/paste out the command to replace the partition table and examine it. The command is a bad typo which crashes horribly because instead of a > it has a &gt in it
[07:49] <hole> i'm having trouble with wine this is what happens when i type  winecfg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10067/ after this i get nothing
[07:49] <jhutchins_wk> genii: So fix it.
[07:49] <genii> bill57785: Anyhow you could use either site but if you use the cut/paste from the wiki, replace the &gt with >
[07:50] <jhutchins_wk> frtmonster: Looks like wine doesn't like your video.  You running beryl or something?
[07:51] <genii> jhutchins_wk There seems no option there to edit the page. I tried yesterday
[07:51] <jhutchins_wk> frtmonster: Sorry. wrong nic.
[07:51] <jhutchins_wk> hole: Looks like wine doesn't like your video.   See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <c0nv1ct> hole: kernel wont matter
[07:54] <c0nv1ct> hole: it looks like its complaining about missing GLX extensions
[07:54] <jhutchins_wk> hole: Yeah, maybe #wine
[07:55] <hole> how can i check to see if beryl is running
[07:55] <jhutchins_wk> c0nv1ct: 'cept wine ought to run fine without 'em.
[07:55] <c0nv1ct> hole: it isnt, you'd know if it is
[07:55] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins_wk: thats what i thought too
[07:55] <jhutchins_wk> c0nv1ct: You would have had to work hard at it.  Beryl's very alpha software.
[07:55] <hole> oh ok it'd look neat or something?
[07:55] <jhutchins_wk> hole: More likely it'd be broken.
[07:55] <keesercc> anyone feel like helping someone with CUPS?
[07:55] <hole> haha
[07:56] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins_wk: its a page fault error, like a memory problem, or I/O
[07:56] <jhutchins_wk> c0nv1ct: Which would happen if wine attempted to write to a GLX extension that wasn't loaded...
[07:56] <jhutchins_wk> !glx
[07:56] <genii> keesercc Are you are having a problem with some IPP configured printer under CUPS?
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <keesercc> genii not sure, I have 4 cupsd running (or so it seems when I run ps -A | grep cupsd)
[07:57] <keesercc> genii is that normal?
[07:58] <keesercc> and trying to connect to localhost:631 does nothing
[07:58] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: How many printers do you have?
[07:58] <keesercc> genii 1, if I can get it to work :)
[07:59] <genii> keesercc: I'm not sure about how many instances should be running.
[07:59] <genii> keesercc: It is a printer that is connected directly to your network?
[07:59] <genii> (or directly to the computer)
[07:59] <bill57785> how do I unlock a folder?
[08:00] <keesercc> genii in the var/log/cups/error_log I get Unable to bind socket for address :::631 - Address already in use.
[08:00] <keesercc> genii and it is connected directly to this computer, however I would eventually like to share it over my netowrk
[08:00] <genii> keesercc: Ah, you may have started all the instances by accident then
[08:00] <magical_bacon> im running ubntu 5.1 and want to change to the latest stable of kubuntu,whats the shell commands to do such a thing?
[08:01] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: You should only have one.
[08:01] <keesercc> I tried to kill them, it eliminated 1 of them, but three others will not go away
[08:01] <magical_bacon> kill -9?
[08:01] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: I would sudo killall cups, then sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start, then see if you can connect.
[08:01] <genii> keesercc: Try   sudo /etc/init.d/cups stop     then do another ps and see if other instances are stillr unning
[08:01] <bill57785> because when I unshielded the cabinet files, they created folders that are locked, and I need into one of the folders
[08:01] <keesercc> ok, I will try that
[08:02] <jhutchins_wk> !upgrade | magical_bacon
[08:02] <ubotu> magical_bacon: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:02] <genii> Or what jhutchins said :)
[08:02] <jhutchins_wk> If killall doesn't work, you may be just as well off rebooting.
[08:02] <bill57785> hey genii, how do I unlock a folder that I don't have permission to access?
[08:03] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: sudo
[08:03] <genii> bill57785: You are unable to write/mount a folder on the drive?
[08:03] <keesercc> sudo killall cupsd
[08:03] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd
[08:03] <keesercc> 12171 ?        00:39:21 cupsd
[08:03] <keesercc> 12396 ?        00:39:04 cupsd
[08:03] <keesercc> 12555 ?        00:32:38 cupsd
[08:03] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$
[08:04] <bill57785> when I unshielded the cabinet files, they created folders that are locked, and I need into one of the folders
[08:04] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: kill -9 13171 12396 12555
[08:04] <genii> bill57785: You can mount the partition that contains it with option user, then anyone can use it
[08:04] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: sudo chown -R 1000:1000 <folder>
[08:04] <keesercc> sudo kill -9 13171 12396 12555
[08:04] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd
[08:04] <keesercc> 12171 ?        00:39:43 cupsd
[08:04] <keesercc> 12396 ?        00:39:24 cupsd <defunct>
[08:04] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$
[08:05] <keesercc> sudo kill -9 12171 12396 12555
[08:05] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd
[08:05] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$
[08:05] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: sudo kill -9 12171 12396 && ps ax | grep cupsd
[08:05] <keesercc> ok, they are ALL ded now
[08:05] <keesercc> dead
[08:05] <bill57785> thank you
[08:05] <jhutchins_wk> There ya go, takes a min sometimes.
[08:05] <genii> keesercc Basically kill -9 command for 12171 and 12396 as well
[08:05] <jhutchins_wk> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start
[08:05] <dromer> hi all, I'm trying to config xinerama, but I had some problems, I got twinview to work, so I tried "combining" the device-settings, this is what I have now, but it still doesn't work: http://sneeuw.zapto.org/~dreamer/xorg.conf.xinerama
[08:06] <genii> LOL <-- too slow
[08:06] <keesercc> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start
[08:06] <keesercc> sudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found
[08:06] <genii> keesercc try cupsys
[08:06] <keesercc> ok
[08:07] <keesercc> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[08:07] <keesercc>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                        [ ok ]
[08:07] <keesercc> keesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd
[08:07] <keesercc> 13505 ?        00:00:00 cupsd
[08:07] <keesercc> BOOYAH!
[08:07] <jhutchins_wk> Woohoo!  Now try http://localhost:631
[08:07] <keesercc> I can at least access localhost:631 now!
[08:07] <jhutchins_wk> Cool.
[08:07] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: You may find this useful: http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd
[08:08] <chasta123> I am running live edgy cd
[08:08] <chasta123> how can I mount HDs _
[08:09] <chasta123> first, how can I see what are the name of HDs..
[08:09] <keesercc> will trying to configure CUPS through the web interface conflict with setting it up via KDE's system settings -> printers
[08:09] <keesercc> ?
[08:09] <jhutchins_wk> chasta123: Try fdisk -l
[08:09] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: No, they should both read/write the same files.
[08:09] <keesercc> ok, Thank you.  I appreciate all the help.
[08:10] <bill57785> this worked fine last night, and now it won't....grrrr
[08:10] <genii> keesercc You may have to close the kde printer config window and reopen it after to see the changes
[08:10] <jhutchins_wk> keesercc: Many of us have found that the KDE system settings didn't work, and niether did cups.  We fixed cups, and because everything was working we never checked to see if KDE was fixed too.
[08:10] <keesercc> makes sense
[08:10] <keesercc> I think I will stick to the web interface
[08:10] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Where ya stuck at?
[08:11] <bill57785> "ls brahma-palmos.zip.?.pdb | sort | xargs -ti python unpdb.py {} - | dd skip=1 bs=32 > brahma-palmos.zip"
[08:11] <chasta123> ok, so I found /dev/hda2            1276       15016   110374582+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[08:11] <bill57785> it goes through and lists the files like it is supposed to, but then it never combines them into the single zip
[08:11] <jhutchins_wk> bill57785: Which is doing what?
[08:11] <jhutchins_wk> aj.
[08:12] <chasta123> but if I mount /dev/hda2/ /media/ it says:
[08:12] <bill57785> after it lists them, it says:
[08:12] <bill57785> 0+0 records in
[08:12] <bill57785> 0+0 records out
[08:12] <bill57785> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.654894 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
[08:12] <chasta123> mount: special device /dev/hda2/ does not exist
[08:12] <chasta123>        (a path prefix is not a directory)
[08:12] <jhutchins_wk> chasta123: A subtlety:  /dev/hda2/ would be a directory.  You want /dev/hda2
[08:12] <chasta123> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/  ->mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:13] <chasta123> huh
[08:13] <jhutchins_wk> chasta123: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdat /media
[08:13] <jhutchins_wk> chasta123: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /media
[08:13] <chasta123> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[08:13] <chasta123>  missing codepage or other error
[08:14] <chasta123> ..
[08:14] <chasta123> I gues its NTFS
[08:15] <chasta123> any ideas
[08:15] <bill57785> I don't know if it is a problem in my command or what
[08:15] <bill57785> that exact same command worked perfectly last night
[08:15] <genii> bill57785: No, I just checked it, it's fine
[08:15] <bill57785> and even sudo doesn't make it work
[08:16] <bill57785> grrrr
[08:17] <genii> bill57785: I think it's not working because it was already done earlier
[08:17] <genii> bill57785: eg: the command completes successfully but there was nothing to alter
[08:18] <genii> because it feeds back to the same filename
[08:18] <bill57785> well I started from scratch in a new folder even
[08:18] <bill57785> and the zip file that is makes (it does make one) has like 0 megs
[08:18] <bill57785> and all of the checksums come up as a bunch of zeros
[08:19] <plhardy_> bill57785: what character will '?' replace ? isn't it something like after 9 there is 10 ?
[08:19] <genii> bill57785: Ah, yes, that is no good.
[08:19] <bill57785> the "?" is for letters a through j
[08:19] <plhardy_> ok then it is not the problem
[08:19] <bill57785> and it lists them out to me, but then it doesn't combine them
[08:19] <blekos> hi what does apt-get autoremove do?
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> chasta123: If it's an extended partition, then it's a container partition for the following partitions.  Try mounting them instead.
[08:20] <genii> bill57785: You may want to remount the partition you are working on with options so: sudo mount -o rw,user /dev/yadda /media/place
[08:20] <genii> With proper dev and mountpoint o course
[08:20] <bill57785> well, I am working on the root partition
[08:21] <bill57785> so wouldn't that screw up linux?
[08:21] <jhutchins_wk> blekos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[08:21] <genii> bill57785: Ah, it is not the problemmatic drive then?
[08:21] <bill57785> nope
[08:21] <bill57785> lol
[08:21] <genii> bill57785: OK, my misconception
[08:21] <bill57785> I have to make the zip files first, then I can put it on the drive
[08:22] <genii> bill57785: Yeah looks like you need to get the original zip again. Because that command writes back over the one it is using as input
[08:23] <genii> Sorry, no.I am too tired to be reading code right now LOL
[08:24] <genii> It has sub extensions etc etc
[08:24] <genii> Original file larger than 0 bytes??
[08:27] <genii> bill57785: Anyhow, my cue to sleep, since I am getting bleary eyes from reading the screen
[08:27] <chasta123> ok I mounted
[08:28] <chasta123> but how can I set the acces rights
[08:28] <chasta123> sudo chmod +777 /media/hda1 _
[08:28] <genii> chasta instead you should mount with option user set
[08:29] <genii> But I digress. My bed is waiting
[08:29] <chasta123> I mounted like this: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media
[08:32] <ubuntu> Hello, I'm trying to install kubuntu but the installer (QTParted) can't find any devices. "maybe you're not root"
[08:32] <ubuntu> err. anyone know what to do?
[08:32] <mray> maybe "you are not root"
[08:33] <ubuntu> who's root then?
[08:33] <mray> make sure you have enough permissions to do what you wan t to do.
[08:33] <ubuntu> hah
[08:33] <ubuntu> but what's the pass I'm on the live thingie
[08:33] <mray> root=admin user with ALL rights.
[08:33] <chasta123> arh, someone alive_
[08:33] <chasta123> need to get to the partition..
[08:33] <mray> oh you just booted from the CD?
[08:33] <ubuntu> yea
[08:34] <chasta123> dont know how to set access rights..
[08:34] <mray> strange
[08:34] <ubuntu> could it be a sata thing?
[08:36] <premier_> hello, I hibernated linux and then accidentally rebooted it without the "resume=" kernel option, so it did not restore my hibernated state.  How can I reset my swap partition so that it will not ever boot that state, and so my computer will not get corrupted
[08:36] <premier_> ?
[08:37] <jhutchins_wk> premier_: If you hibernate again, it should overwrite the existing file.
[08:37] <premier_> I tried swapon -a, and usually it works, but today it said: swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f93b13e6-13a3-4220-b3f7-a5c2d0b30118: Invalid argument
[08:38] <niles> hi gang
[08:40] <premier_> jhutchins_wk: the swap isnt loaded properly (probably because there is a corrupt hibernated state there) so I cant hibernate
[08:41] <premier_> jhutchins_wk: for future referrence, If I hibernate and my computer didnt have ACPI on, and then I restore with ACPI on, will I corrupt my computer?
[08:41] <premier_> I have trouble with ACPI and sometimes my computer wont boot, so sometimes I turn it off
[08:42] <one-force>
[08:42] <premier_> rr?
[08:42] <LycanNyc-work> whats new in kde 3.5.6
[08:42] <premier_> LycanNyc-work: well, they fixed that bug where you always get the "big X" screensaver, even if you turn screensavers off
[08:43] <LycanNyc-work> premier_, hehe
[08:43] <jhutchins_wk> premier_: I really don't know.  I suppose you can re-create the swap partition if nothing else.
[08:43] <premier_> jhutchins_wk: are you freaking serious?
[08:43] <jhutchins_wk> premier_: No biggie.
[08:44] <miso> Newbie question, but how am I able to tell whether my kernel has USB-ACM-support?
[08:44] <jhutchins_wk> cfdisk, delete partition, re-create, it, mkswap, swapon.
[08:45] <LycanNyc-work> we need a new kde menu and stuff
[08:45] <LycanNyc-work> like Suse
[08:46] <nysosym> LycanNyc-work: i don't think so :D
[08:47] <premier_> I just can't wait until KDE4
[08:47] <chasta123> oh cmon how can I set the acces rights to /media/sda1   I am running via live cd
[08:48] <premier_> new panel system, plasma, new everything
[08:48] <brad_> hello
[08:48] <premier_> chasta123: the live CD might do that to protect you.  do you know the root password for the CD?  its usually something like "root" or "user" or "kubuntu" or "demo"
[08:49] <zancdar> bonjour
[08:49] <chasta123> premier: I downloaded edgy...
[08:49] <miso> hi - can anyone tell me how am I can tell whether my kernel has USB-ACM-support
[08:49] <premier_> konnichawa
[08:49] <chasta123> premier: how can I chmod this device
[08:50] <Skrot> miso: cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep -i acm
[08:51] <AMSmith42> Somehow I got Adept Manager to open every time I boot into KDE. Not just in the background, but in it's window. How do I make it silent?
[08:51] <miso> Skrot: thanks.   I just picked up a Vantec hard drive enclosure, popped in a drive and I can't seem to make it work.  I plugged it into my USB port and nothing at all is happening.  The USB port is good, or at least it works with my thumb drive.  Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to tweak something to get it to recognize an external HD?
[08:52] <Skrot> miso: Then you've got USB ACM built as a module. Try sudo modprobe cdc-acm
[08:52] <AMSmith42> Hash: Could you do an alias?
[08:52] <HaSH> AMSmith42, how might i go about setting one up?
[08:52] <AMSmith42> lol
[08:52] <adz_> I am having a few problems with ubuntu
[08:52] <AMSmith42> HaSH: I don't know.
[08:52] <miso> Skrot: thanks - no result on the modprobe
[08:52] <HaSH> AMSmith42, doe! ;-)
[08:53] <adz_> for some reason, it can't do any resolutions higher than 600x400
[08:53] <AMSmith42> hash: I was just tossing an idea out there.
[08:53] <AMSmith42> :P
[08:53] <Skrot> miso: lsmod | grep -i acm should tell you that cdc-asm is loaded :)
[08:53] <adz_> It worked before, but now it dosn't
[08:53] <adz_> does anybody know why this would happen
[08:53] <HaSH> its all good im sure ill figure it out
[08:54] <Skrot> adz_: Try grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if anything interesting shows up. Font-config stuff is not relevant.
[08:54] <magical_bacon> i used aptitude to switch from ubuntu to kubntu and now want to remove the ubunt desktop but its didsapeerred from aptuitude?wold apt-get -i ubuntu-desktop work?
[08:54] <AMSmith42> HaSH: alias cd..='cd ..'
[08:54] <miso> Skrot - thanks! Finally managed to get my Moto v3i working with moto4lin!
[08:55] <Skrot> miso: Nice =)
[08:55] <AMSmith42> HaSH: Of course, there is probably a way to make that happen everytime you open a console, but I can't help you there.
[08:56] <adz_> skrot: I type that in my console?
[08:56] <KidNabre> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu, it can't find my hard drive, it's there in bios but it can't detect it. Anyone knows what to do? thx
[08:56] <Skrot> adz_: Yupp
[08:56] <magical_bacon> would that work?
[08:57] <Skrot> adz_: "grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log" without the "'s
[08:57] <niles> hi
[08:57] <niles> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[08:57] <Skrot> niles: wget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:58] <magical_bacon> also after swihing to kubuntu my computer still says its running ubuntu under the help menu
[08:58] <magical_bacon> ill just play with apt-get and hope i dont break my compter for the seconf time today
[08:59] <niles> thanx
[09:03] <Daskreech> crimsun: ping
[09:06] <Raven301> What firewall do you guys use with kubuntu??
[09:07] <michael___> Raven301: fkirestarter
[09:07] <stdin> Raven301: iptables, what else :P
[09:07] <michael___> !kfirestarter
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kfirestarter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Moltov> Ello, anyone good at getting grub to work right after having installed w2k to a partition(my other os, is kubuntu, of course.) I found instructions to make it "work again" but all it can see is kubuntu...
[09:07] <Moltov> And well, #grub is a deadzone.
[09:08] <Daskreech> !firewall
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:08] <Raven301> thanks michael___ stdin Daskreech
[09:09] <michael___> Moltov: you must run grub-update
[09:10] <michael___> more precisely "sudo grub-update"
[09:10] <konoko> how can i use kde applications on gnome? Sorry im a newbie so i dont know and did not understand
[09:10] <stdin> konoko: yeah, sure
[09:10] <Daskreech> konoko: apt-get install them
[09:10] <Daskreech> Then just click on them
[09:10] <konoko> but are not them different platforms?
[09:10] <michael___> konoko: nope...
[09:11] <Daskreech> konoko: They use different libraries
[09:11] <Daskreech> They can co exist just fine
[09:11] <konoko> i c
[09:11] <stdin> konoko: they just use different ways to draw the graphics, they will work together tho
[09:11] <michael___> konoko: you can even run one on top of the other!!
[09:11] <Moltov> Michael: Ummm,... That doesnt do anything. It says command not found.
[09:11] <konoko> so not like different distros, ubuntu and kubuntu
[09:12] <michael___> did yuo put a sudo?
[09:12] <Moltov> Yes.
[09:12] <Moltov> And that wouldnt be the error if i didnt in the first place.
[09:12] <stdin> Moltov: try update-grub not grub-update
[09:12] <Chetwin> Hey all!  How do I change the kControl Center back to it's default view!??!
[09:12] <konoko> so is it possible to run kopete on gnome?
[09:12] <Moltov> stdin: MUCH better ^.^
[09:12] <michael___> stdin: thanks
[09:12] <michael___> konoko: yes
[09:13] <Chetwin> Anyone anyone
[09:13] <Chetwin> !kcontrol
[09:13] <ubotu> kcontrol: control center for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 2815 kB, installed size 9008 kB
[09:13] <stdin> konoko: anything you can install in adept, you can run
[09:13] <Chetwin> Anyone?
[09:14] <michael___> Chetwin: did you use to have it in Kubunut?
[09:14] <stdin> Chetwin: delete ~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc , that will reset it to default
[09:15] <eidos> _
[09:15] <Chetwin> stdin: thank you
[09:15] <Moltov> Michael/stdin/anyone helpfull: After having run sudo update-grub and rebooting, it still doesnt give me the option to boot w2k in the list
[09:15] <Chetwin> Agrivating
[09:16] <stdin> Moltov: is windows on the 1st partition on the disk?
[09:16] <Moltov> stdin: Sort-of...
[09:16] <stdin> Moltov: sort-of? how?
[09:17] <Moltov> stdin: Well, Disk wise its at the begining of the disk, is it the #1 partition in labeling, i dont know...
[09:17] <Moltov> stdin: ^.^ i think ill check
[09:18] <magical_bacon> kde andgnome are 2 seperate things, you an downloAD AND INSALL THE KDE-DESKTOP Package and then you can run it
[09:18] <stdin> Moltov: well, it needs to be on the 1st partition , or windows won't boot anyway
[09:19] <magical_bacon> im trying to get rid of ubuntu and switch to kubuntu ive installed the kubuntu-desktop package,but still have the gnome lok and feel,so i uninstaled the ubuntu-desktop package and my compter still acts like ubntu?
[09:19] <magical_bacon> do i need the uunt-standerd package for my kde desktop to work?
[09:19] <Moltov> stdin: Well, ^.^ Windows 2k+ anyway... come to think of it ive read bout it...
[09:19] <Chetwin> stdin: sorry, I couldn't find the file
[09:19] <Moltov> stdin: Mind aint quite awake ^.^'
[09:20] <stdin> magical_bacon: have you tried "sudo apt-get autoremove" and/or "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop" ?
[09:20] <michael___> magical_bacon: you need to choose KDE in the sessions menu in the login manager
[09:20] <Chetwin> Looking to revert Kontrol Center's look back to default.  Any ideas?
[09:20] <magical_bacon> ahh
[09:20] <stdin> Chetwin: it will be a hidden directory ~/ means your home directory
[09:20] <Chetwin> Yes I know
[09:20] <Chetwin> kde/share/
[09:20] <Chetwin> there is kcontrolrc
[09:20] <Chetwin> I deleted that, it didn't work
[09:21] <michael___> Chetwin: aer you opening the control center right off the menu?
[09:21] <Silveira_Neto> Where can I find the version of my Kubuntu?
[09:21] <stdin> !version | Silveira_Neto
[09:21] <Chetwin> yes
[09:21] <Chetwin> kcontrol
[09:21] <ubotu> Silveira_Neto: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:21] <HaSH> AMSmith42, ahh k thanks ill do that for the mean time :-)
[09:21] <michael___> are you sure you aren't opening "control center"?
[09:22] <Silveira_Neto> ubotu: thanks! Worked!
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks! worked! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <stdin> Silveira_Neto: ubotu is a bot :)
[09:22] <stdin> !bot
[09:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:22] <michael___> Chetwin: alt+f2 and then type kcontrol
[09:23] <Silveira_Neto> thanks bot!
[09:23] <stdin> !botsnack
[09:23] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:23] <michael___> unless you WANT the old Kubuntu control center
[09:23] <Chetwin> That's why I need to change it back in the first place!!! My kde keyboard shortcuts don't work!
[09:23] <michael___> oh... right click on the desktop and click run command
[09:23] <Chetwin> And when I open kcontrol, I don't have the option for keyboard shortcuts because kubuntu removes the "complicated" things from view
[09:23] <michael___> right...
[09:24] <Chetwin> Very nice, thank you!
[09:24] <michael___> you're welcome
[09:24] <Moltov> stdin: So what exactly constitutes it being the first parition?...
[09:25] <stdin> Moltov: it being on the 1st primary partition
[09:25] <dromer> can someone please help me extend my desktop over my geforce2 svideo to a tv? :(  I've been trying twinview, but then I have just another desktop (I used this guide for that: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456), but I want to extend the main desktop so I can drag programs etc.
[09:25] <Moltov> stdin: As in refered to as hda1? or...?
[09:25] <stdin> Moltov: on linux, it's called /dev/hda1 (for the 1st primary partition of the 1st master drive)
[09:25] <Moltov> stdin: ^.^' i use gparted for such things nowadays, so that is indeed what it refers to it as.
[09:26] <dromer> someone told me to try xinerama, but this doesn't work at all
[09:26] <keesercc> ubotu CUPS
[09:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:26] <stdin> Moltov: so, it on the 1st partition then, good :)
[09:26] <Daskreech> !sound
[09:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:27] <Silveira_Neto> I broke all my apt-get and Adept, I have to confess that I modified the /etc/apt/source.list, where can I find an original source.list for Kubuntu 6.10? This would solve my problem?
[09:27] <stdin> Moltov: it's quite simple to add windows to grub if it's not detecting it
[09:27] <Moltov> stdin: Well, its not detecting it, and its on hda3 ^.^' which is probobly why.
[09:27] <stdin> Silveira_Neto: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list is a good one
[09:27] <keesercc> !CUPS
[09:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:27] <keesercc> !botsnack
[09:27] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:28] <stdin> Moltov: ahh, than you need to have it on hda1 ( I think, I don't have windows ), I think there is a way to "trick" it tho
[09:28] <dromer> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[09:28] <dromer> sorry
[09:28] <keesercc> !linux
[09:28] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:29] <dromer> hehe
[09:29] <Moltov> stdin: I think ive herd that too, though i also imagine theres a way to swap hda1(currently kubuntu) and hda3 around...
[09:29] <iamsam9895> Is 53 degrees celcius too hot for a processor?
[09:29] <Moltov> Hell no.
[09:29] <iamsam9895> Phew.
[09:29] <dromer> hehe
[09:29] <Moltov> Most semprons run idle in the 60s.
[09:29] <Moltov> Celci.
[09:29] <stdin> iamsam9895: that's cool for a cpu
[09:29] <iamsam9895> This is an athlon.
[09:30] <Moltov> Oh, well, thats about normal then.
[09:30] <iamsam9895> Wow, I don't even have my case fan on.
[09:30] <Moltov> Itll build up if you run it ragged without one.
[09:30] <iamsam9895> I left it on overnight.
[09:30] <iamsam9895> With no case fan
[09:30] <Moltov> Thats not running it ragged.
[09:30] <XenThraL> question, I wanted to install kompile from the adept package manager, but when I choose to do it, it says "BROKEN (install)"
[09:30] <iamsam9895> True.
[09:30] <XenThraL> so, I didn't install it
[09:31] <XenThraL> what does this mean?
[09:31] <Moltov> Running it ragged would be running it at near 100% preformance for a fair while.
[09:31] <ForgeAus> theres an unmet dependancy Xen
[09:31] <XenThraL> shouldn't it go fetch all of them automatically?
[09:31] <ForgeAus> you do have kdesu (the unmet dependancy, its part of Kubuntu's base install), but adept/kompile doesn't know that ...
[09:31] <ForgeAus> so you can't install it that way
[09:31] <Silveira_Neto>  I'm goingo to install kde4libs via aptget. He told me that he would remove theses packages: hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop libqt4-core libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql pyqt4-dev-tools python-qt4 qt4-designer qt4-dev-tools qt4-qtconfig speedcrunch. Is this safe? Mostly are packages that I installed after installed Kubuntu.
[09:32] <ForgeAus> well you could I guess if you can get the .deb you might be able to extract the binaries from it and put them in the right place ... unless its a source package
[09:32] <niles> whats the difference between beryl and glx ?
[09:32] <XenThraL> ForgeAus: I'll try that then
[09:32] <XenThraL> thank you
[09:32] <ForgeAus> Beryl is a windowsmanager/3D desktop environment
[09:32] <niles> err i mean xgl
[09:32] <ForgeAus> glx is the framework it runs on
[09:32] <dromer> !xgl
[09:32] <ForgeAus> or one of them
[09:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:33] <niles> ahh thanx fellaz
[09:33] <ForgeAus> Compiz is analogous to Beryl in that little explaination there
[09:33] <ForgeAus> also if your running Beryl for KDE you probably want Aquamarine (to keep your window decorators)
[09:34] <stdin> Moltov: 1st, I'd try just to boot it normally, by adding this to your /boot/grub/menu.lst http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/14
[09:36] <Moltov> stdin: Altering it for the correct partition for the 2k install, i assume
[09:37] <stdin> Moltov: if it's hda3, then you want (hd0,4)
[09:37] <niles> so what is a composite manager?  sorry my terminology is shady. im asuming beryl cant run with out xgl ?
[09:37] <Moltov> stdin: Mmm, realy...
[09:37] <Moltov> stdin: Thats a bit odd numbering, but ok
[09:37] <stdin> Moltov: grub starts at 0, so hda1 is hd0,0
[09:37] <niles> oh it's analoguous
[09:38] <Moltov> stdin: wouldnt that make it hd0,2 then? by logical progression?
[09:38] <stdin> Moltov: yeah, :P it would
[09:38] <Moltov> stdin: ^.^'
[09:38] <stdin> Moltov: it's getting late here
[09:38] <stdin> Moltov: hda3 = hd0,2
[09:39] <Moltov> stdin: Thats ok, i havent truethuflly slept in about two days... half slept sorta... yes... but lol
[09:39] <wildchild> how do I check where is something mounted_
[09:39] <wildchild> partitions..
[09:39] <stdin> wildchild: type "mount"
[09:39] <niles> mount command
[09:39] <Silveira_Neto>  I'm goingo to install kde4libs via aptget. He told me that he would remove theses packages: hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop libqt4-core libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql pyqt4-dev-tools python-qt4 qt4-designer qt4-dev-tools qt4-qtconfig speedcrunch. Is this safe? Mostly are packages that I installed after installed Kubuntu.
[09:39] <bpettert> hello
[09:40] <bpettert> how do i config grub?
[09:40] <wildchild> so I gave mounted /dev/hda1 on /media type ntfs (rw)
[09:40] <wildchild> how can I set the rigths to acces this poin??
[09:40] <wildchild> point
[09:40] <bpettert> how do i config grub?
[09:40] <stdin> Silveira_Neto: I wouldn't reccommend that, a lot of that looks like it's to do with Qt, which is essential to KDE
[09:40] <wildchild> chmod 777 /media  ??
[09:40] <keesercc> bpettert /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <bpettert> thenks
[09:41] <stdin> wildchild: you'll want a umask, in the mount settings
[09:41] <keesercc> bpettert: you are welcom
[09:41] <stdin> wildchild: and you don't want to mount it at /media
[09:41] <wildchild> stdin: I mounted it to /media
[09:41] <muxman> hola a todos
[09:42] <wildchild> stdin whre else can I mount it
[09:43] <stdin> wildchild: somewhere in /media (like /media/windows) or to another directory (like /windows). /media is used to mount other things to as well, like CDs and removeable media
[09:43] <Moltov> stdin: Well, here we go...
[09:43] <stdin> wildchild: which won't work if you have something mounted over /media
[09:44] <stdin> Moltov: hope it works
[09:44] <sparrw> how can i find out the filename for a kde panel applet?
[09:44] <Moltov> stdin: Error 8: Kernal must be loaded before booting.
[09:44] <wildchild> stdin: sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/win        mount: mount point /media/win does not exist
[09:45] <stdin> wildchild: you have to make the directory first (sudo mkdir /media/win)
[09:45] <ozzcomet> hello. i've just installed kubuntu 6.06 x86_64. because 6.10 is the latest version, adept made it easy for me and upgraded my soft. before that i've managed to install the nvidia drivers and even rendered some blender scenes. after the upgrade and after a reboot the x-server refused to start invoking "fatal error: no screens found". i've tried to revert the xorg.conf setting to the original ones and so i managed to start the x server but without
[09:45] <ozzcomet> any nvidia support. can anyone help me with this issue? thank you!
[09:46] <stdin> Moltov: give this one a go then http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/15
[09:46] <wildchild> stdin: sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/win
[09:46] <wildchild> mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist
[09:46] <wildchild>        (a path prefix is not a directory)
[09:47] <stdin> wildchild: you put a '/' after hda1, don't, mount it like this (copy and paste if you want): sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/win
[09:47] <Moltov> stdin: *chuckles* okay, just waiting for kubuntu to boot up again then ^.^ p3-800 aint got much of a punch
[09:48] <stdin> wildchild: if you want write access (and have ntfs-3g installed) sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/win -t ntfs-3g -o umask=0000
[09:50] <niles> so it is either a choice between xgl or beryl. correct?
[09:50] <niles> neither is a prerequisite for the other, right?
[09:51] <Moltov> stdin: Same exact error.
[09:51] <stdin> Moltov: hmm
[09:51] <stdin> Moltov: can you post the menu.lst file to pastebin please?
[09:52] <john> how come the file dialog never shows all of the root ?  all i see is home and media .... why is that ?
[09:52] <stdin> !hidden | john
[09:52] <ubotu> john: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:52] <jhutchins> niles: I believe that beryl requires xgl of some sort.
[09:52] <john> klolololol,l
[09:52] <john> why are you removing it ?
[09:52] <john> its sorta a good idea for regular users....
[09:52] <Moltov> stdin: That would be wonderfull... If the computer i was doing all the fiddling on was online.
[09:52] <stdin> john: because people hated it :P
[09:52] <jhutchins> niles: beryl is a window manager, xgl a graphics support layer.
[09:53] <john> but seriosly right now im trying to install appollon its asking me where giFT is located and it wiont even let me type in the full path ffs
[09:53] <Moltov> stdin: Infortunately, it HATES my only spare wireless card... And well, lets leave that at that.
[09:53] <stdin> Moltov: ahh, ok then :P
[09:53] <Moltov> stdin: but. i can transpose that which isnt commented out fairly easy... though i cant gerentee perfect spelling across
[09:54] <john> an d where is the home icon lol ?
[09:56] <musashiden> Hello everyone
[09:56] <firemonkeyballz> umm I cant get the upgrade tool to run
[09:56] <musashiden> I was wondering if anyone could redirect me to the wiki page that explains how to add harddrives to kubuntu
[09:57] <musashiden> or maybe a program?
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> I have the gnome packages installed for it
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> and the program runs
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> however
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> it quits after it downloads
[09:58] <hyper_ch> musashiden: you added a new harddrive/partition to your computer?
[09:58] <musashiden> yes hyper
[09:58] <musashiden> a new harddrive
[09:58] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[09:58] <hyper_ch> musashiden: is it formatted already?
[09:58] <firemonkeyballz> Ive heard thats not recomended
[09:59] <hyper_ch> jhutchins: you mean ... && sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[09:59] <musashiden> hyper_ch: yes it is formated, it has my windows installation in it. i just want to retrieve my files from it
[09:59] <stdin> Moltov: just reading some grub manuals, give this a go http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/17
[09:59] <jhutchins> hyper_ch: Woops.  Cat on keyboard, sorry.
[09:59] <hyper_ch> musashiden: ok, open a shell terminal and enter the following command. Put the output then into a pastebin:    sudo fdisk -l
[09:59] <jhutchins> (actually, cat between me and screen)
[09:59] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: We just recommended it to you, so I don't know where you heard that.
[09:59] <hyper_ch> jhutchins: hehehe :)
[10:00] <john> how do i get a shortcut to the home drive ?
[10:00] <jhutchins> john: Where?
[10:00] <jhutchins> john: What part of the drive?
[10:00] <hyper_ch> firemonkeyballz: instead of sudo apt-get upgrade I would use   sudo aptitude upgrade --> aptitude also installed the recommended additional packages with it... apt-get doesn't :)
[10:00] <firemonkeyballz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:01] <Moltov> stdin: WHEWH here it is... http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/18
[10:01] <musashiden> hyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10088/
[10:01] <john> jhutchins:  the little home icon......
[10:01] <Moltov> stdin: That, took bloody forever.
[10:02] <khirr> how can i change my kde theme?
[10:02] <jhutchins> Ah.  Right click desktop, create link to ~/ .
[10:02] <hyper_ch> jhutchins: that's for up0grading from dapper 6.06 to edgy 6.10
[10:02] <stdin> !changethemes
[10:02] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[10:02] <jhutchins> john: Ah.  Right click desktop, create link to ~/ .
[10:02] <stdin> khirr: ^^
[10:02] <hyper_ch> musashiden: you know how to open (as root) a file?
[10:02] <khirr> ?
[10:02] <khirr> !changetheme
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <jhutchins> hyper_ch: you're thinking dist-upgrade.
[10:02] <musashiden> hyper_ch: yes, i do
[10:02] <khirr> !changethemes
[10:02] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[10:03] <hyper_ch> jhutchins: don't dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy... it's not working good... better to make a clean install
[10:03] <stdin> Moltov: looks ok, give my (revised) version a go
[10:03] <khirr> what's the diference between dapper and edgy?
[10:03] <Moltov> stdin: Ive tried it as it currently is...
[10:03] <hyper_ch> musashiden: ok, then open fstab -->   sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:04] <Moltov> stdin: it gave the same exact error.
[10:04] <jhutchins> hyper_ch: Clean installs are always preferred, but the upgrade worked fine for many.
[10:04] <stdin> Moltov: this one http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/17 ?
[10:04] <hyper_ch> jhutchins: the upgrade didn't work fine for a lot of people also :)
[10:04] <musashiden> hyper_ch: done
[10:04] <crimsun> Daskreech: pong
[10:04] <gemidjy> hi..how can I rebuild the KMenu with default Kubuntu settings ?
[10:04] <Moltov> stdin: No.... you never tossed that one at me i could see, gimme a sec lol
[10:05] <Daskreech> crimsun: Was trying to get my sound sorted
[10:05] <ltpitt> hello there =)
[10:05] <hyper_ch> musashiden: add this line:    /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:05] <crimsun> Daskreech: I don't have time atm, very busy. Check back in 90 minutes.
[10:05] <stdin> Moltov: yeah I did: [20:59]  <stdin> Moltov: just reading some grub manuals, give this a go http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/17 :P
[10:05] <Daskreech> crimsun: Will do
[10:05] <ltpitt> anybody is able to give me a hand for wine installation? :)
[10:05] <hyper_ch> musashiden: then save and exit fstab
[10:05] <musashiden> hyper_ch: okay, but shouldn't i first create the /media/sda1 folder?
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> anyone here compiled a custom kernel in edgy?
[10:06] <hyper_ch> musashiden: no, we can do that afterwards :) it will not automatically be added :) you'll need to reboot and then it will be mounted as read-only...
[10:06] <hyper_ch> musashiden: but before rebot we create the folder :)
[10:06] <Moltov> stdin: Shoudnt all those 3s be 2s? or?
[10:06] <musashiden> read only?
[10:06] <musashiden> hyper_ch: what if i want to write to it?
[10:06] <hyper_ch> musashiden: ntfs is not recommended to write to... if you want that you will need the ntfs-3g drivers
[10:06] <stdin> Moltov: yeah, sorry, I copy & pasted most of that :P
[10:07] <hyper_ch> musashiden: and then you need to alter that entry... but I've never done that.... and I never will
[10:07] <musashiden> hyper_ch: i see
[10:07] <hyper_ch> musashiden: for sharing between you can install the ext3 drivers in windows (that's safe) or use fat32 as transitory drive
[10:07] <gemidjy> how can I rebuild the KMenu with default Kubuntu settings ?
[10:07] <hyper_ch> (however fat32 has no journaling and supports no files bigger than 2gb)
[10:08] <ltpitt> anybody is able to give me a hand for wine installation? :) I've tried with information from wine hq (I have kubuntu) but no luck... BTW I can't find it in synaptic :/
[10:08] <hyper_ch> musashiden: you said you wanted to copy over fromt he ntfs drive :) hence ro access is enough... for everything else you'll have to look up google for ntfs-3g
[10:08] <firemonkeyballz> ok I got a public key error
[10:08] <musashiden> hyper_ch: okay, let me reboot. thanks for the help
[10:08] <Moltov> stdin: Same, error 8, again.
[10:08] <hyper_ch> musashiden: did you create the dir?
[10:08] <hyper_ch> musashiden: you need to do that before reboot
[10:08] <musashiden> hyper_ch: yes
[10:08] <hyper_ch> musashiden: good :)
[10:09] <zorglu_> q. is there a tool to easily convert the format of a video ?
[10:09] <stdin> Moltov: I have no clue then, you may have to "move" the partitions about
[10:09] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: converting formats is not recommended
[10:09] <stdin> hyper_ch: why not?
[10:09] <zorglu_> hyper_ch: well i would like to do it. is there any tool for it ?
[10:09] <Moltov> stdin: Im perfectly willing to alter the partitions, i couldnt find the command in gparted, kubuntu have something akin?
[10:10] <xerosis> zorglu_: check 'man mplayer'
[10:10] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: don't know about a tool... because normally the formats are compressed and you will loose quality when you convert into another non-lossless format
[10:10] <zorglu_> xerosis: this is hardly a 'easy tool'
[10:10] <Moltov> Stdin: And gparteds website terrifys me more than M$s database
[10:10] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: "easy" is a very wide term
[10:10] <zorglu_> hyper_ch: ok, this is exactly what i want :) to loose quality :)
[10:10] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: then go ahead :)
 I have a public key error
[10:11] <zorglu_> hyper_ch: well so is there any tool to do it easily  ?
[10:11] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: don't know :)
[10:11] <zorglu_> hyper_ch: hehe :)
[10:11] <stdin> Moltov: well the Kubuntu disk uses Qtparted, which is mostly the same, but a KDE version, but Gparted is more stable and if you are messing with partitions, you want stable
[10:11] <hyper_ch> firemonkeyballz: I wouldn't upgrade from dapper to edgy... I've never done it and hence I don't know what's wrong there :)
[10:12] <firemonkeyballz> !upgrade
[10:12] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:12] <Moltov> Moltov: haha, hear you there, used to use partionmagic
[10:12] <hyper_ch> zorglu_: I just did a general anotation to quality-loss... you know, a lot of people want to convert mp3s to their ipod... and they'll loose quality without knowing :) I thought you might be such a case
[10:12] <Moltov> er
[10:12] <niles> how can i tell if i have a particular package currently installed?
[10:12] <Moltov> >.<
[10:12] <zorglu_> hyper_ch: no problem :)
[10:13] <hyper_ch> niles: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[10:13] <stdin> Moltov: in Gparted, you want "resize/move" from the "Partition" menu
[10:13] <Moltov> Stdin: I seem to be talking to myself again there... lol
[10:13] <hyper_ch> niles: it tells you if it's up-to-date or current
[10:13] <Moltov> stdin: I tried that, it didnt seem to have any option for actualy moving it
[10:13] <Moltov> stdin: resizing it twelve different ways to sunday... but...
[10:13] <niles> oh right
[10:13] <niles> of course
[10:13] <niles> darrr
[10:14] <hyper_ch> niles: that's the only way I know how to check it... but there are also other methods, I'm certain of it... :)
[10:15] <hyper_ch> 49 packages to upgrade :)
[10:15] <stdin> Moltov: yeah, I can't find it either
[10:15] <Moltov> stdin: Im in gparted... I have no clue how to do that from here... but im in it...
[10:16] <stdin> Moltov: if you have partition magic, you may want to dust off that disk
[10:16] <john> how  come teh gift library only has 2 of the supported protocols ?
[10:16] <Moltov> stdin: Sadly, the versions so old it doenst handle nfts well.
[10:16] <Moltov> stdin: No clue what it would think of ext3
[10:16] <Fogge> Ok, just got an interesting error in Konversation
[10:17] <Fogge> The nickname and text of the person im chatting with in query is black (on my black background), how do i fix that?
[10:17] <stdin> Moltov: I bet it would be fine with ext3, it's open source, anyone can take the code for it
[10:18] <Moltov> Stdin: Yes yes... But does it know ext3 EXISTS... is the better question....
[10:18] <Moltov> Stdin: That said, i have no clue where that disk is ^.^' so... *does some searching of gparteds stuf*
[10:18] <stdin> Moltov: yeah, it's been around for a long time, a very long time
[10:20] <stdin> Moltov: I'd say to try asking on #ubuntu , as it's not Kubuntu specific, it's more low level
[10:21] <hyper_ch> stdin: well, it's not ubuntu specific either what moltov is asking
[10:22] <stdin> hyper_ch: but there may be people in #ubuntu that know more about it than me
[10:22] <hyper_ch> stdin: ah :)
[10:23] <Moltov> Stdin: Yeah, at this point i was thinkin that myself, so ciao for now
[10:23] <stdin> good luck Moltov
[10:23] <yannick> salut les nerds
[10:23] <hyper_ch> !fr | yannick
[10:23] <ubotu> yannick: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:26] <Aiwuu> can i have a printer in kubuntu?
[10:26] <hyper_ch> Aiwuu: yes you can
[10:26] <Morbo> Huh?
[10:27] <Aiwuu> hyper_ch how.O
[10:27] <Aiwuu> i need a driver or waht?
[10:27] <hyper_ch> Aiwuu: depends on your printer
[10:27] <zorglu_> !printer | Aiwuu
[10:27] <ubotu> Aiwuu: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows