[00:01] <Buddha> Does anyone here use Lucid Lynx netbood edition and if so, does it work well?
[00:02] <Buddha> I have Win 7 starter on this netbook I just bought and want to dual boot and test out this new netbook version of kubuntu
[00:19] <e_t_> Buddha: I used 9.10 KNE, and it worked quite well. I suspect Lucid is an improvement, though I haven't personally tested it.
[00:20] <Buddha> Is the only real difference from the standard distro that it is more suited for smaller resolutions?
[00:20] <Buddha> The site only mentions that as the difference
[00:20] <e_t_> The gui is pretty radically different. That is part of what makes it suitable for lower resolutions.
[00:24] <Buddha> Would it be difficult to dual boot with that and windows, and to remove it later if I didn't like it? Being that I have a netbook, my copy of Win7 is not on CD or anything, so if something breaks and I have to remove linux, windows has to stay intact
[00:24] <Buddha> no way to reinstall it lol
[00:24] <Buddha> I know I can dual boot easily on desktop
[00:24] <Buddha> but not sure about a netbook
[00:25] <e_t_> Personally, I wouldn't shed any tears over the loss of 7 starter. It's pretty crippled (on purpose).  I had to install a third party agent to change the wallpaper.
[00:26] <Buddha> I've just had issues int he past with getting wireless and things to work on linux
[00:26] <Buddha> I didn't want to mess up my backup plan.
[00:27] <e_t_> Put the netbook iso on a USB drive with unetbootin or the USB image writer. Then you can boot up the live environment and see if everything works, without installing anything.
[00:28] <avihay>  I had to install a third party agent to change the wallpaper. now that's progress for ya
[00:30] <e_t_> As I said, it's crippled on purpose, to encourage you to buy ($$$) a higher version of Windows. I think it could be great marketing for Linux.
[00:30] <Buddha> Those two things you mentioned, where would I find them?
[00:30] <nerdy_kid> anyone noticed that the context menu for dolphin is slow?
[00:31] <e_t_> Are you running (K)Ubuntu on a computer now?
[00:31] <Buddha> Yeah, Windows 7 Starter is completely useless.
[00:31] <Buddha> No, not at the moment.
[00:31] <Buddha> All I have is this netbook
[00:31] <Buddha> Desktop is out of commission
[00:33] <e_t_> Do a google search for unetbootin. It's a program for both Linux and Windows that lets you put ISO images onto USB drives and makes them bootable. Just add your own ISO image (i.e. kubuntu netbook) and go.
[00:59] <poyntz> plasma-desktop stuffed up on the lucid upgrade
[00:59] <poyntz> so i installed some thing called kde-netbook
[00:59] <poyntz> which gave me an interface
[00:59] <poyntz> but i can't customize or change anything
[00:59] <poyntz> how can I fix this?
[01:24] <poyntz> did plasma desktop stuff up for anyone else when they upraded?
[01:28] <harjot> how do i get midi working on my laptop
[01:28] <harjot> ?
[01:28] <harjot> poyntz: plasma didnt even installed when i upgraded
[01:30] <PeterDrop> any idea why pulseaudio crachme a lot my pc?
[01:33] <poyntz> harjot, i
[01:33] <poyntz> harjot: i'm confused cause I can't customize anymore
[01:33] <poyntz> harjot: for instance I can't add an application launcher to the menu
[01:34] <harjot> thats cause its netbook
[01:34] <poyntz> so is netbook the new plasma-destop?
[01:35] <harjot> install the full lucid from a cd
[01:35] <harjot> it will work
[01:35] <harjot> poyntz: my kubuntu upgrade was completely messed up
[01:35] <harjot> no
[01:35] <harjot> its a skimmed down version of kubuntu
[01:36] <harjot> netbook kubuntu is the distribution your on?
[01:36] <poyntz> i think so
[01:37] <poyntz> plasma acquired a bug after upgrade
[01:37] <poyntz> so i installed plasma-netbook and kubuntu-netbook
[01:37] <poyntz> which gives me access to a limited GUI
[01:37] <harjot> thatss netbook version of everything
[01:37] <poyntz> ahh k
[01:37] <harjot> Just reinstall from scratch
[01:37] <poyntz> :/
[01:37] <harjot> lucid has upgrading problems
[01:38] <poyntz> could I uninstall and reinstall kubuntu-deskto
[01:38] <poyntz> would that work?
[01:38] <jensoko> poyntz someone on kubuntuforums did that  here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107594.0
[01:38] <jensoko> I can't get my netbook to start kde in either netbook or full
[01:40] <jensoko> my iso of 10.04 is a few days old. Does anyone know if they change the isos when they fix bugs?
[01:40] <Typos_King> dunno, I'd expect it so
[01:40] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[01:41] <DarthFrog> Unless they make an official point release.
[01:41] <DarthFrog> The bug fixes will be available via the software updates.
[01:43] <jensoko> DarthFrog So...in theory, if my install or upgrade of kubuntu 10.04 hung after login, if I could log in at a command line terminal, I could do a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and get those bug fixes?
[01:43] <DarthFrog> Yes
[01:44] <DarthFrog> And instead of logging in, press Ctl-Alt-F1 to get a terminal.
[01:44] <shadertest> A better idea would be to install gentoo
[01:45] <poyntz> jensoko: thanks for the link but it wasn't relevant to my concern :/
[01:45] <DarthFrog> Gentoo?  Spend the next month compiling your system. :-)
[01:45] <bazhang> shadertest, that's not helpful
[01:47] <jensoko> DarthFrog, Thank You! my Thinkpad x100e can run ubuntu 10.04 from the bootable usb liveCD, and I successfully used the usb liveCD to install kubuntu 9.10, but 9.10 is doing weird things with the video drivers, and the wireless is nonexistent. I would love to have a working kubuntu 10.04 on my netbook. This may be the way.
[01:47] <DarthFrog> jensoko: Good luck.
[01:48] <jensoko> poyntz: sorry about that--I thought it might help. I'm looking to do something similar--if I have to take a few extra steps to get kde and 10.04, it'll be worth it if it works
[01:49] <poyntz> ok. off a hunch it could be something to do with some of the widgets we have installed being not compatible with the latest version (highly likely as this bug often results)
[01:51] <poyntz> gonna reboot. see what happens..
[02:22] <anirudh24seven> will there be any problems if i directly upgrade from karmic to lucid ?
[02:33] <DarthFrog> anirudh24seven: Perhaps.  That's the best answer that can be given.
[02:34] <DarthFrog> Likely not, though, if Karmic is running well.
[02:42] <anirudh24seven> oh... i'm having a few minor problems with lucid as i upgraded directly... my friends told me later that it is better to reinstall it seperately
[02:44] <shadertest> I suggest you install gentoo
[02:44] <islington> anyone in here use kget?
[02:45] <islington> opinions on kget?
[03:01] <DarthFrog> shadertest: Why are you in a Kubuntu support channel promoting Gentoo?  I do agree that Gentoo is a fine Linux distribution for experts and suggest that your efforts would be both more rewarding and more appreciated if you expended them in a Gentoo support channel.
[03:08] <chelz> i remember when KDE4 just came out it was said that the release was to get it in the hands of developers, were there any follow up posts from devs after following releases if one of those releases is meant for users?
[03:13] <DarthFrog> chelz: The current release 4.4.3 is pretty good.
[03:38] <InvaderZim> These last days I'm experiencing some hanging issues when a program tries to open the "GTK select file dialog". I.E. in pidgin when I click on my picture to change it, it takes about 15 seconds to open the dialog while pidgin itself hangs. On Chrome happens the same thing when using the file dialog. Any ideas to fix it?
[03:39] <InvaderZim> Oh and after the first hang, the subsequent dialogs don't hang. But some time later it starts again.
[03:39] <InvaderZim> kubuntu lucid
[04:13] <jensoko> DarthFrog: epic fail. After upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04, I used the ctrl-alt-F1 to open a terminal and ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and got no updates or upgrades to 10.04. My system still hangs when attempting to start services. Would I need to add a new repository to aptitude? Or is there a way I can use the command line to replace the kdesktop with gnome, because gnome seems to work fine.
[04:21] <DarthFrog> Is the system connected to the net?
[04:21] <DarthFrog> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <DarthFrog> And then select GNOME from the login menu.
[04:27] <jensoko> DarthFrog: It's connected via wired connection. I should be able to run that command. I am glad to find out there's a point of the problem, but sad to find out I'll not be able to use KDE. Yet. I'm hopeful though. Thank you once again!
[04:28] <DarthFrog> jensoko: You're welcome.  Good luck and have fun.
[04:29] <jensoko> Good night everyone. Hopefully some sleep will make things magically work! :)
[06:11] <hceasyon__> hello everybody
[06:12] <moetunes> !hi
[06:14] <SandGorgon_> can i use kde wallet to store personal stuff - like bank account numbers, etc ?
[06:14] <hceasyon__> hi
[06:14] <hceasyon__> hello everyone
[07:02] <mostafakvd> how can I connect to a windows server?
[07:05] <hceasyon__> BOX
[07:05] <hceasyon__> use BOX to make a WINDOWS
[07:05] <hceasyon__> then connect it
[07:08] <mostafakvd> hceasyon__: Excuse me for being late ! what is BOX sir?
[07:08] <hceasyon__> VM
[07:11] <vadi01> guys got a big problem. in kde non of my shortcut keys work...in gnome they all work automatically. any idea how to solve this?
[07:11] <DarthFrog> That's a big problem?  Hmm.  more what I'd call a minor nuisance.
[07:12] <vadi01> DarthFrog, ok a nuisance is a problem:((( anyway to get rid of it?
[07:13] <DarthFrog> Probably.  And probably easily, too.  But I haven't a clue how to do so, don't use keyboard shortcuts myself.
[07:14] <mostafakvd> hceasyon__: u mean Virtual Box or Virtual Machine?
[07:14] <hceasyon__> yse
[07:14] <hceasyon__> yes
[07:17] <bazhang> hceasyon__, try #vbox
[07:20] <mostafakvd> bazhang: I can ping a windows system but the windows can't ping me what is the problem plz
[08:42] <zus> is there a channel for pidgin?
[08:44] <rork> zus: #pidgin but you need to be authenticated to join there
[08:45] <zus> how do i do that?
[08:45] <moetunes> !register
[08:45] <zus> im registered at freenode
[08:46] <zus> i just dont know all the channels
[08:46] <moetunes> if you're registered you'll be fine in #pidgin
[09:03] <ForgeAus> is it just me or is UNIX itself fairly much dead? too much infighting about who owns it novel SCO, etc... ??? which makes it more like Unix is dead, long live Linux? ...
[09:03] <ForgeAus> (unless you consider BSD Unix but even that is like linux a derivative)
[09:07] <tsimpson> BSD is not a Linux derivative, but BSD and Linux are Unix derivatives
[09:09] <ForgeAus> tsimpson right, but thats not what I said... I said BSD was a derivative of Unix (if you read it right)
[09:10] <tsimpson> ForgeAus: you're right, that 'a' must have jumped in my head
[09:10] <ForgeAus> which means we both agree :)
[09:11] <ForgeAus> well I probably should have had a comma before it...
[09:11] <ForgeAus> like linux, a derivative (or even a hyphen )
[09:13] <moetunes> I thought mr torvalds wanted a mips kernel for home and linux was born
[09:13] <ForgeAus> its kinda a shame Unix is dying the way it is, providing open source to linux could have been interesting for stuff like CDE and even the X-server itself!.. to see where those things would have headed...
[09:13] <ForgeAus> instead it got messed up with infighting novell and SCO for who actually owns it...
[09:13] <tsimpson> well unix was never open source
[09:14] <ForgeAus> which is imho silly, why can't they both just get along?
[09:14] <tsimpson> but open source things were developed on it
[09:14] <tsimpson> ForgeAus: because SCO is pure evil
[09:14] <ForgeAus> I mean sure theres lots of infighting among linux distros, but they all recognise its a mater of taste and that "you keep your distro I'll keep mine" kinda thing...
[09:14] <tsimpson> like MS, but without that much money
[09:14] <tsimpson> SCO is not a linux distro
[09:16] <tsimpson> SCO is just a proprietary Unix vendor
[09:17] <ForgeAus> was, not sure they still are
[09:17] <ForgeAus> (court cases etc, novell I think got unix rights currently, I'm not sure SCO can/will still be able to sell it... )
[09:18] <tsimpson> they'll just get buy licenses
[09:35] <wedo> hello all
[09:36] <rork> hi wedo
[09:36] <wedo> how to use the java vm with seamonkey
[09:36] <wedo> hi rork
[09:38] <rork> !java | wedo
[09:39] <wedo> already i installed all Sun java and open java packages but its not working with seamonkey
[09:51] <kifcaliph> hello there
[09:52] <kifcaliph> I just wanna know why I can't run kate from the root terminal
[09:53] <kifcaliph> is there anyone can help me please
[09:53] <moetunes> afaik you should be able to
[09:54] <moetunes> does   kdesu kate work from a normal konsole?
[09:54] <kifcaliph> hi moetunes
[09:55] <kifcaliph> thank you, but kdesu doesn't work
[09:55] <moetunes> hi kifcaliph
[09:55] <kifcaliph> I use su
[09:55] <moetunes> for graphical stuff you should do kdesu mate
[09:55] <moetunes> !kdesu
[09:55] <kifcaliph> then I try to run kate it returns kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:57] <kifcaliph> well it returns kdesu: command not found
[09:58] <moetunes> ahh well try kdesudo
[09:58] <moetunes> like the bot said
[10:00] <kifcaliph> all I need is to edit grub.cfg I used "sudo nano" it opens the file
[10:00] <kifcaliph> thank you guyz , you're very helpful
[10:01] <moetunes> kifcaliph: like I said afaik kate from root terminal "should" work
[10:01] <moetunes> why it doesn't...
[10:01] <kifcaliph> I'll try it and I'll give you feedback
[10:03] <kifcaliph> ya it worked very well, thank you moetunes
[10:04] <moetunes> np - what did I do to help?
[10:04] <kifcaliph> I am sorry, I am just linux user for only a month
[10:04] <moetunes> np
[10:04] <moetunes> we were all new to it once :]
[10:05] <kifcaliph> I was trying to edit the bloated GRUB menu it makes me carazy when I boot
[10:05] <kifcaliph> thank you
[10:05] <moetunes> luck :]
[10:33] <zus> when setting kmail under accounts>modify>security do i set it to ssl? or none for gmail?
[10:38] <powerinside> Ktorrent auto starts for me in kubuntu .. how to disable that?
[10:39] <moetunes> powerinside: you might have left it running when closing down one time - pick a new kde session at login
[10:40] <Benkinooby> hi there. seem i messed up my lucid-upgrade some time ago. now i am with karmic, but i don't get chance to upgrade to lucid. update-notifier-kde says there are no upgrade to be done :( how can i fix that?
[10:41] <moetunes> does   sudo update-manager -d   return anything?
[10:43] <Benkinooby> moetunes:  it just brings up the gui-update manager and shows me a gdm update (wich i set on hold on purpose)
[10:44] <moetunes> k
[10:44] <moetunes> updated lately Benkinooby ?
[10:44] <Benkinooby> moetunes: right now. i use aptitude.
[10:45] <Benkinooby> moetunes: i onec saw the dist-update symbol in my menu-bar. but i aborted the upgrade.
[10:45] <powerinside> I tried to upgrade my kubuntu 9 with ubuntu 10.04 alt CD and the install didnt go smoothly. After restart, my start screen shows "ubuntu 10.04 pixel dots like loading" and takes me to console only!! no GUI!
[10:46] <Benkinooby> moetunes: seems, there is one conf-file that says: finished upgrade to lucid and the rest of the system is not upgraded.
[10:46] <powerinside> How do I get back the new kubuntu 10.04's loading + gui?
[10:46] <Peace-> so that is a driver problem powerinside
[10:46] <moetunes> Benkinooby: does   sudo aptitude full-upgrade   return anything?
[10:46] <Peace-> powerinside: your video card had some problem with the driver
[10:47] <Benkinooby> moetunes: 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:47] <moetunes> powerinside: tried   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   ?
[10:47] <powerinside> thats weird because in console, i typed startx and GUI loads but why not automatically.. and the shutdown and restart buttons in kdestart is missing too
[10:48] <Benkinooby> powerinside: plesae paste your /boot/grub/menu.conf to pastebin.com
[10:48] <moetunes> Benkinooby: what is the "one conf-file that says: finished upgrade to lucid and the rest of the system is not upgraded" ?
[10:48] <powerinside> ok wait
[10:48] <Benkinooby> moetunes: this is what i think. somehow the system "thinks" it is allready upgraded....
[10:49] <powerinside> Benkinnooby: /boot/grub/menu.conf does not exist
[10:49] <moetunes> Benkinooby: I'm asking which file says that pls
[10:49] <Benkinooby> moetunes: if i would know, i would change it. this is only my guess...
[10:50] <Benkinooby> moetunes: hmmm... right now i see that there is one sources.list that has all the lucid stuff in it....
[10:50] <moetunes> Benkinooby: what does   lsb_release   return?
[10:50] <moetunes> if lsb is still used...
[10:50] <Benkinooby> moetunes: No LSB modules are available.
[10:51] <Benkinooby> uname -a
[10:51] <Benkinooby> Linux box 2.6.31-21-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 07:28:56 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <moetunes> powerinside: it is   /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:52] <moetunes> Benkinooby: k - what makes you think you still have karmic?
[10:53] <moetunes> that's a lucid kernel afaik
[10:53] <Benkinooby> moetunes: my sources.list
[10:53] <Benkinooby> ?!
[10:53] <Benkinooby> really?
[10:53] <moetunes> Benkinooby> moetunes: hmmm... right now i see that there is one sources.list that has all the lucid stuff in it....
[10:53] <moetunes> one sources.list?
[10:53] <Benkinooby> moetunes: there are more... but the actual one is karmic...
[10:54] <Benkinooby> i also have an other one with all that lynx stuff... let me make it the defaut one and see...
[10:54] <marco___> hello, are there libraries for Skype on KPackageKit? I found only a wrapper for Python and plugins for Pidgin
[10:54] <marco___> do i have to install Skype from their site?
[10:54] <moetunes> Benkinooby: seems you might need to check that - apt-cache search linux
[10:55] <powerinside> Benkinooby: here http://pastebin.com/94wfKmsE
[10:55] <Benkinooby> marco___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Installing%20Skype
[10:56] <powerinside> and moetunes, have a look at this.. why does it ask for ubuntu cd now?? : http://i44.tinypic.com/s1t0ns.png
[10:56] <mknightofwest> Hi all =)
[10:56] <Benkinooby> powerinside: seems ok... i just wonder why you have quiet 2 times in line 69
[10:57] <Benkinooby> moetunes: ok, there comes a lot of stuff....
[10:57] <moetunes> powerinside: you have the cd listed as an install source from the upgrade - it is normal - you need to comment it out - comment is a # - in the /etc/ap/sources.list file
[10:58] <moetunes> Benkinooby: looks like you're upgrading?
[10:58] <Benkinooby> moetunes: let me paste it for you....
[10:58] <moetunes> powerinside: /etc/apt/sources.list file sorry
[10:58] <dErzOnk> hello there, someone can help me fix my grapic drivers? (it's nvidia, games not working is warsow, ut99, and i'm bloody noob in this linux)
[10:58] <moetunes> !nvidia
[10:59] <powerinside> ok... can i simply just press OK now without inserting the disc? it will update from the internet then?
[10:59] <powerinside> i mean , can i continue in the konsole
[10:59] <moetunes> powerinside: you need to do an   apt-get update
[10:59] <powerinside> ok
[10:59] <AhmedBH> Hi,  I can't see thumbnails on KDE ! only on music videos
[10:59] <powerinside> moetunes: after I comment out the CD in sources cfg?
[11:00] <moetunes> powerinside: yep - any change in that file needs an update
[11:00] <Benkinooby> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/KGiMhnuR
[11:01] <moetunes> Benkinooby: from the number of lines it looks like an upgrade
[11:01] <Benkinooby> moetunes: so it is allready upgraded?
[11:01] <Benkinooby> moetunes: and only my packages are all with karmic?
[11:02] <moetunes> Benkinooby: last line is for a 2.6.28 kernel... - which sources list did you make default?
[11:02] <Benkinooby> moetunes: the one with karmic...
[11:02] <AhmedBH> Will anyone tell me why i cant see thumbnails of any video on dolphin :)
[11:03] <Benkinooby> let me make the lucid be default and see...
[11:03] <moetunes> Benkinooby: sounds like it is trying to downgrade then
[11:03] <Benkinooby> moetunes: after my failed upgrade to lucid, i made the sources.list to karmic again
[11:04] <moetunes> AhmedBH: maybe there is no video thumbnailer installed...
[11:04] <AhmedBH> oh ... so how do i download that@_@
[11:04] <AhmedBH> its fine over Gnome
[11:04] <moetunes> Benkinooby: get rid of the karmic sources.list mate - you are on lucid
[11:05] <moetunes> I wouldn't know the video thumbnailers name - I thought it was a natural dep AhmedBH
[11:05] <powerinside> Hey I so since I've attempted to upgrade kub using ubuntu , I fear some unwanted leftover ubuntu/gnome stuff... any tips on what all to remove usin apt-get? I want pure kubuntuish not pure kde
[11:05] <Benkinooby> lucid is with kernel 2.6.32 and i am with 2.6.31
[11:06] <AhmedBH> Thanks i remember it now moetunes
[11:06] <moetunes> luck
[11:06] <moetunes> :]
[11:06] <AhmedBH> but thats already installed..
[11:07] <Benkinooby> powerinside: better use aptitude....
[11:07] <AhmedBH> uh
[11:07] <moetunes> Benkinooby: that means you haven't updated lucid is all
[11:09] <Benkinooby> moetunes: hahaha... now i did sudo aptitude update and got 1775 updates....
[11:09] <Benkinooby> and 28167 new to install...
[11:09] <moetunes> Benkinooby: with a lucid sources.list?
[11:10] <Benkinooby> moetunes: j
[11:10] <Benkinooby> now i am doing sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[11:10] <Benkinooby> moetunes: yes, with lucid sources.lsit
[11:11] <moetunes> Benkinooby: I hope you delete that karmic sources.list then...
[11:11] <Benkinooby> powerinside: hmm, you could uninstall all the gui stuff and reinstall kubuntu-desktop package...but this will killl all ur configs i guess...
[11:12] <Benkinooby> moetunes: for now i renamed it....
[11:12] <moetunes> not without --purge
[11:12] <powerinside> benkinooby: not taking any risks then.. lol
[11:12] <Benkinooby> powerinside: see what moetunes said... use the --purge :)
[11:12] <moetunes> powerinside: it seems that kdm isn't starting for some reason
[11:13] <moetunes> not the --purge!!
[11:13] <Benkinooby> powerinside: i thing you will get all the gnomestuff if you remove the ubuntu-desktop stuff...
[11:13] <Benkinooby> powerinside: don't puge ;)
[11:13] <Benkinooby> purge
[11:13] <moetunes> powerinside: ^^
[11:14] <powerinside> Um.. just a sec
[11:14] <powerinside> so sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop is okay?
[11:14] <moetunes> powerinside: just do   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   to see if it brings anything that was missing first
[11:15] <powerinside> moetunes: i just finished doing that.. lemme reboot to see if it bought back my loadings
[11:15] <moetunes> k
[11:15] <Benkinooby> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/bmLJkur4
[11:16] <moetunes> Benkinooby: that looks like an update not os upgrade - sure it is with the lucid sources.list just to nag a bit :]
[11:17] <AhmedBH> moetunes: I solved it hh
[11:17] <AhmedBH> thanks tho
[11:18] <moetunes> Benkinooby: no new kernel afaiksee
[11:18] <moetunes> *can see
[11:19] <Benkinooby> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/5XA5b1UV
[11:20] <moetunes> Benkinooby: then you are upgrading lucid - well done :]
[11:21] <Benkinooby> moetunes: but should i get the ***.32 kernel? i am with 31 one
[11:21] <Benkinooby> now
[11:22] <moetunes> Benkinooby: I would let the upgrade do it's thing first
[11:22] <Benkinooby> moetunes: so i also checked what sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says... 33 conflicts....
[11:23] <moetunes> Benkinooby: that sort of thing is bound to happen when you mix sources.lists
[11:23] <moetunes> shouldn't have done that
[11:24] <Benkinooby> :/... next time i know :P
[11:24] <Benkinooby> moetunes: waht are u using for updates? gui, apt-get, aptitude ?
[11:25] <moetunes> Benkinooby: I always do apt-get - old school here :]
[11:26] <Benkinooby> moetunes: :D... sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[11:26] <moetunes> Benkinooby: luck mate :]
[11:28] <Benkinooby> moetunes: thx... to be honest i am even thinking about getting away from kde to something lighter... although i will really miss all the nice kde-stuff ... maybe to xfce or lxde... (cuz i use a netbook) ...but for sure i will always use dolphin... i like it so much...
[11:29] <Benkinooby> now starting my 800MB download....
[11:31] <moetunes> Benkinooby: I use fluxbox mainly here :]
[11:33] <JDahl> my sound is broken in KDE after an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04. I searched the forums, but didn't find anything specific to look for.  Anyone here has experience manually configuring sound under KDE?
[11:34] <Benkinooby> moetunes: i was looking at it... but when a gui doesn't come with it's own panes i feel strage... i like it, wehn everything is "fitting" together like DE do it (or pretend)... i looked at openbox, fluxbox (to me they are pretty much the same odr du you know good reasons why to choose on over the other), enlightenment, xfce, even ion... but always i return to big-fat-kde :D the only thing i don't look at is gnome... maybe i need to get
[11:34] <Benkinooby>  used to windowmanagers and their modular apraoch... they can be very nice looking while being fast...
[11:34] <Benkinooby> panes = panels
[11:35] <Benkinooby> sorry for my horrible english
[11:35] <zus> why cant i send email in kmail what is the smtp server not supporting authentication?!?!
[11:35] <zus> i didnt do anything diferent than before!
[11:36] <moetunes> I get upset when i boot to the desktop and it uses more then 40mb - just to get to a menu? - so I am a minimalist :]
[11:36] <moetunes> mem*
[11:36] <Benkinooby> moetunes: why do you prefer fluxbox over openbox or blackbox?
[11:37] <moetunes> zus: did it change to ask for a password?
[11:37] <Benkinooby> moetunes: and what filemanafer are you using?
[11:37] <zus> i  gave it one yes
[11:37] <moetunes> Benkinooby: flux has grouping,transparencey etc
[11:37] <zus> im about to give up on this -
[11:37] <moetunes> Benkinooby: thunar
[11:38] <moetunes> zus: most don't want a password
[11:38] <zus> moetunes,  its gmail, and now i dont need a pswd?
[11:39] <moetunes> zus: sorry i don't do gmail - i was commenting on smtp servers in general from isps mate
[11:41] <zus> moetunes,  its cool im going for lay down ill try later
[11:41] <moetunes> zus: luck mate :]
[11:42] <zus> moetunes,  doing my head in you know what i mean? up alll night
[11:42] <moetunes> zus: it would keep me up too
[11:43] <zus> moetunes,  i recieve ok but it wont send out
[11:44] <moetunes> heads up zus
[11:44] <moetunes> Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server – requires TLS: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)
[11:44] <moetunes> Use Authentication: Yes
[11:44] <moetunes> Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
[11:44] <moetunes> Port: 465 or 587
[11:44] <moetunes> Account Name: your Gmail username (including<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:44] <FloodBotK2> moetunes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <moetunes> Email Address: your full Gmail email address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:45] <zus> aye, i dont know what im typing in wrong?
[11:46] <Benkinooby> moetunes: is there a use of unsing floxbox when i use all the kde apps (amarok, kopete, dolphin...)
[11:46] <zus> ive check incase i got a , and not a .
[11:46] <moetunes> zus: something like - Account Name: your Gmail username (including<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- maybe?
[11:47] <moetunes> Benkinooby: fluxbox has a configure option to use kde apps natively
[11:47] <Miika--> hello
[11:47] <Benkinooby> moetunes: byebye kde, hello fluxbox
[11:47] <Miika--> How I can make lightscribe labels in kubuntu?
[11:48] <moetunes> Miika--: your burner supports this?
[11:49] <zus> moetunes,  oi, now thats wot im talking about thanks mate
[11:50] <Miika--> moetunes: yes
[11:50] <zus> Miika--,  i dont know how to lightscribe even in windows i couldnt figure it out
[11:51] <Miika--> It's easy in Windows
[11:52] <moetunes> Miika--: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/118705 - might help
[11:54] <zus> moetunes,  now i can actually enjoy my smoke brb. and thanks
[11:54] <moetunes> np :]
[11:57] <kwadrobait> à ðóññêèå åñòü ?
[11:57] <moetunes> looks like greek to me kwadrobait
[11:58] <kwadrobait> moetunes:  i need russian support
[11:58] <moetunes> !ru
[11:58] <kwadrobait> thx )
[11:58] <moetunes> np
[12:05] <Ahox> Hi, I have problems connecting my bluetooth headset with my PC. While both hcitool and kbluetooth can find the headset, kbluetooth says it does not provide any input functionality. Any idea?
[12:06] <Ahox> Also seperate question, only one app at a time can play music (vlc, firefox, dragon player, skype, etc.) I understood that alsa does support multiple sinks or am I mistaken?
[12:06] <Benkinooby> moetunes: hmm... i looked cles at fluxbox... it also seems to be the most poular among all the *box WMs. so now fluxbox vs. enlightenment :P
[12:07] <moetunes> !bluetooth | Ahox best I can do
[12:08] <moetunes> Benkinooby: enlightenment has some pluses but is harder to set up and has less interoperability with kde apps for example
[12:08] <moetunes> I find it weird
[12:08] <Benkinooby> moetunes: it also seems to go deeper into the system and brings mor of it's own libaries....
[12:09] <moetunes> it is fairly unique Benkinooby
[12:10] <Benkinooby> moetunes: i thing best thing is to spend one week on flux and see...
[12:10] <Benkinooby> and in case lubuntu gets official i will test it
[12:11] <moetunes> Benkinooby: lots of links to set it up - and there is   http://fluxbox.org    for how tos
[12:11] <moetunes> !lubuntu
[12:11] <Benkinooby> moetunes: thx, i allrdy opened op that page long ago ;)
[12:11] <moetunes> heh
[12:11] <moetunes> !bot
[12:11] <moetunes> !lag
[12:12] <bazhang> #lubuntu
[12:12] <Benkinooby> moetunes: lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde
[12:12] <Benkinooby> moetunes: http://lubuntu.net/
[12:12] <moetunes> :]I know mate
[12:12] <Benkinooby> moetunes: ah, ok ... i was just wondering why all the !lubuntu
[12:13] <moetunes> ubuntu with lxde - just seeing if it was official enough for the bot to know
[12:13] <Benkinooby> hahahaha
[12:13] <moetunes> and the bot does know...
[12:14] <Twey> Oooh, LXDE logo is pretty
[12:14] <Benkinooby> hahahahaha
[12:14] <Benkinooby> pretty what? ;)
[12:15] <moetunes> the logo looks nice
[12:18] <Benkinooby> i don't like it.. but this shall not be a problem...
[12:19] <moetunes> I never took to lxde myself
[12:20] <hofoen> i need some help
[12:20] <hofoen> how can i extract multiple zip files to one folde
[12:21] <moetunes> hofoen: in konsole   cd to the folder and use unzip is how i would do it
[12:21] <Benkinooby> moetunes: "took"?
[12:22] <moetunes> it never grabbed me - I found it not to my liking etc
[12:22] <Benkinooby> k
[12:22] <Benkinooby> afk
[12:23] <hofoen> they need to be extracted to one folder, but the unzip creates different folder for every file
[12:24] <moetunes> hofoen: they are created in folders so of course - man unzip might have an option
[12:25] <moetunes> hofoen: the -d option looks promising
[12:26] <hofoen> yep, it works
[12:26] <hofoen> i forgot to add the '' the first time
[12:26] <hofoen> thank you
[12:26] <moetunes> np ;]
[12:28] <bartol> Hi everyone, can anyone point me in the direction of an opensource project using QTJambi?
[12:29] <moetunes> bartol: http://qtjambi.sourceforge.net/
[12:29] <moetunes> first in google search...
[12:29] <bartol> I'm actually looking for projects implementing qtjambi :)
[12:31] <Mamarok> bartol: why not ask the developers of Qt Jambi? -> http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=296327
[12:31] <Mamarok> they might know better than we do
[12:32] <moetunes> bartol: http://freshmeat.net/tags/qt - has a few too
[12:34] <bartol> Thanks!
[12:37] <bartol> Seems like most of them are C++ as expected
[12:38] <Mamarok> bartol: well, Jambi are just Java bidings for C++, what did you expect?
[12:40] <bartol> I don't know. I was hoping there would be a nice project out there somewhere to practice using QT with java. I'm not very familiar with C++ yet.
[12:40] <Ahox> Hi, is there some way to make non-qt apps use phonon or its backend?
[12:41] <Mamarok> Ahox: not that I know of, no
[12:41] <Mamarok> but maybe ask in #phonon
[12:41] <Ahox> Currently I can either use sound with a kde (sry, not qt) app or another app... kind of anoying
[12:41] <Mamarok> bartol: Qt is a C++ framework
[12:42] <Ahox> Mamarok,  thnx, I will do that
[12:42] <Mamarok> Ahox: well, it is made for KDE and Qt applications, don't expect miracles. But of course you can ask the Gnome devs to use Phonon, too, just' don't expect any reaction on that...
[12:43] <bartol> Mamarok: I know, but I don't like Swing. I was hoping QT might replace it for me.
[12:43] <Ahox> Mamarok,  and skype and... no, its just that in kde3 times one could redirect the audio output to the ksoundserver whatever its name was
[12:44] <Mamarok> bartol: maybe as in #qt?
[12:44] <Mamarok> Ahox: you talk about ancient times...
[12:45] <bartol> Mamarok: ok, I'll try that. Thx
[12:46] <Ahox> Mamarok,  yes I know, I am getting old, starting to write about the good ol' time back then when sound worked ;-)
[12:46] <Mamarok> Ahox: it does work here
[12:47] <Ahox> it works here, too - with an alsa fore-reload to switch apps...
[12:47] <Mamarok> I use the plain installation that I got with Lucid, nothing changed
[12:47] <Mamarok> well, Upgrade to KDE SC 4.4.3, but that shouldn't matter
[12:48] <Ahox> can you use say skype parallel to amarok?
[12:49] <Mamarok> Ahox: I don't use Skype
[12:51] <Ahox> ok, whats about any other non-kde app? Firefox, flash, etc?
[12:51] <bartol> Ahox: Did you figure out a way to get thos things to work?
[12:52] <Ahox> bartol,  only with an sudo alsa force-reload
[12:53] <bartol> Ahox: When do you do the sudo alsa force-reload, after starting amarok or after starting skype/firefox flash?
[12:55] <Ahox> bartol,  I do that before I want to use the program in question. So say I want to use skype after amarok, I stop amarok, do an alsa force-reload, (re)select  the outputs in skype, use skype. Major PITA
[12:56] <bartol> Ahox: sounds like fun. Skype doesn't bother me as much, but the weird flash playback is just so irritating. sometimes it keeps playing the sound of a video for a full minute after I close the browser
[12:56] <Ahox> bartol,  oh, this should definitly be fixed by an reload
[12:57] <bartol> Ahox: thanks for the tip
[12:57] <kleopatra> Hello cqan someone help me? my sound isnt working properly ...
[12:57] <bartol> Ahox: Any insights on why this happens?
[12:58] <Ahox> My best guess is that flash buffered the soundoutput into alsa and forgot to issue a stop - hence alsa will happily play till it hit end of buffer.
[12:59] <Ahox> Having said that an buffer of one minute sounds awfully long to me
[13:01] <bartol> I tried tinkering with the flash plugin a few weeks ago, but that didn't do anything
[13:02] <bartol> it works most of the time, I shouldn't complain :)
[13:08] <Mamarok> !sound
[13:09] <Mamarok> PasNox: those links above, follow them step by step
[13:09] <Mamarok> especially the second one
[13:09] <PasNox> Mamarok: thanks.
[13:09] <Ahox> found a solution on http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hardware_mixing,_software_mixing . Works like a charm
[13:09] <Ahox> kleopatra,  what's your problem?
[13:10] <ForgeAus> can KDM use fingerprint scanner on ASUS notebooks (esp M50S model)
[13:10] <kleopatra> ahox: well my sound isnt workin in firefox, and vlc-media player. it alway works when starting the computer und shutting down , amarok sometimes works but i cant rely on it
[13:11] <Ahox> kleopatra, this sounds like the same issue I had. Just to make sure, can you please try an sudo alsa force-reload .
[13:11] <Ahox> and check if it works within one app then
[13:13] <kleopatra> ahox: before i forget, my comp often telly me about sound-devices that would have been taken away
[13:13] <Ahox> this sounds like alsa restarts already on its own...
[13:13] <Ahox> or crashes
[13:14] <kleopatra> ahox : http://paste.ubuntu.com/434345/ its in german tho
[13:14] <Ahox> no prob. yes, that's the message one gets from an alsa stop/restart, too
[13:14] <Ahox> maybe buggy drivers/hardware?
[13:17] <kleopatra> ahox: how can i find out?
[13:17] <Ahox> kleopatra,  anyway you may want to have a look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hardware_mixing,_software_mixing
[13:18] <Ahox_> I am not sure about that. Sorry. Maybe dmesg is helpfull
[13:19] <Ahox_> also really try the link I send you. It solved all my problems...
[13:19] <kleopatra> ahox:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/434358/
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:00]  * BluesKaj has more coffee
[14:14] <n8w> hey
[14:14] <n8w> is there a way for switchin user in multiple terminals via bash script?
[14:14] <n8w> every time i reboot i need to manually do su - user1 on 4 different terminals...is it possible to make a script for it?
[14:28] <Benkinooby> hi
[14:30] <Benkinooby> keyboard after upgrade not working usb too
[14:31] <Benkinooby> http://pastebin.com/fzfDZNhB
[14:58] <dErzOnk> ARG, i need some help by accident i removed all the programms from the taskbar... how can i get that back?!?
[15:01] <eagles0513875> hey guys anyone in here using kopete
[15:02] <dErzOnk> yes i use kopete
[15:18] <rork> dErzOnk: did you remove the task manager or the notification and jobs, or shortcuts or what exactly?
[15:20] <bartol> Can anyone tell me if mounting devices trough fstab during boot is logged somewhere besides dmesg?
[15:21] <dErzOnk> hi rork.,.. well normally theres the taskbar and for each programm using you have a little Tab at the taskbar...
[15:22] <rork> dErzOnk: yes, right click the panel (taskbar) > panel options > add widgets > task manager
[15:24] <dErzOnk> hmmm cant find it....
[15:27] <dErzOnk> jeez thank rork found it! was different german name!
[15:27] <dErzOnk> btw UT runs now somehow but i need lot of fixes!
[15:27] <rork> dErzOnk: what kind of fixes?
[15:29] <dErzOnk> i crash at public LAS servers and i have 300FPS AvG and 500FPS spikes... i move too fast xD
[15:32] <Benkinooby> hallo some1 here?
[15:35] <Mamarok> !ask | Benkinooby
[15:38] <thopiekar> hi
[15:39] <thopiekar> es ist doch nicht normal, dass man heute bei der 2.  Ersatzfestplatte war nach dem ersten Gebrauch auch schon hin.. (dutzende bad blocks).. welchen Festplatten-Hersteller könnt ihr mir empfehlen?
[15:40] <Benkinooby> oh srry i only have screenkeyboard....http://pastebin.com/KgsL6Mwz. mz upgrade messed up everything
[15:41] <ForgeAus> ok so how to remount a wubi partition from within wubi?
[15:41] <thopiekar> uuh sorry for writing here in german :) I thought it is the german channel here :P
[15:41] <ForgeAus> (I wanna kind of /host from within a chroot)
[15:41] <LjL> thopiekar: you can try #ubuntu-de for german
[15:43] <thopiekar> LjL: for sure I will
[15:44] <thopiekar> LjL: but it is almost offtopic soo #kubuntu-de-offtopic
[15:51] <Benkinooby> plz someone helps me with messed up distupgrade http://pastebin.com/fFA5t5PH
[15:52] <Benkinooby> i only have mousepad to type screenkeyboard
[15:52] <Benkinooby> :(
[16:00] <Ramzes_II> after computer hibernation, Network Management is off, Unmanaged...
[16:04] <goodtime> go to your start menu and type in firewall and set up your proxy Ramzes_II
[16:04] <goodtime> same thing i just went through
[16:05] <Ramzes_II> ok,thanks..
[16:08] <Ramzes_II> goodtime : I cant enable Network management
[16:08] <goodtime> man i love kubuntu its way easier than most linux so far lol
[16:08] <goodtime> oops
[16:08] <goodtime> hmmm
[16:08] <goodtime> Ramzes_II: in terminal as root type in dhclient might help there
[16:09] <Ramzes_II> ok
[16:12] <goodtime> then try what i said about your proxy
[16:12] <Ramzes_II> goodtime : DHCP Client V3.1.3, can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission Denied
[16:13] <goodtime> you need permissions and i think it will work then i will try to remember how to do that hang on
[16:14] <Ramzes_II> I type as root
[16:30] <bgd_> hi, is kubuntu 8.10 compatible with asus eee pc 4g 701 ? thanks
[16:53] <Benjism89> hello
[16:54] <Benjism89> I've just upgraded to 10.04 and now the OS won't start
[16:55] <Benjism89> can't open /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen
[16:55] <Benjism89> can anyone help me fixing that problem ?
[17:10] <AhmedBH> Hi, i have a issue, when i set my monitor @ 1028x1024 after a stupid restart its back to default at 1024768 , How do i permanent set that to a 17" as default @_@ xrandr ?
[17:10] <AhmedBH> i use KDE control Module by the way
[17:13] <AhmedBH> ANYONE HOME
[17:13] <AhmedBH> :P
[17:13] <shadeslayer> hey :)
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ok i just want to ask a small question,if i install kvm and virtualize windows,can i get it to connect to WiFi,ethernet and USB ?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ( the actual devices on my system )
[17:14] <slow-motion> hi
[17:15] <DarthFrog> shadeslayer: I don't know about kvm, but all tha works for me in VMWare and VirtualBox.
[17:16] <AhmedBH> Hi, i have a issue, when i set my monitor @ 1028x1024 after a stupid restart its back to default at 1024768 , How do i permanent set that to a 17" as default @_@ xrandr ?
[17:16] <AhmedBH> i use KDE control Module by the way
[17:16] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: ok
[17:17] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: im basically thinking of removing Vista and virtualizing 7, i just need windows for updating my phone's OS and some light gaming
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Gaming is not one of the strong points of virtualisation.
[17:25] <shadeslayer> DarthFrog: i know... but the main thing is the update of the phone...
[17:25] <DarthFrog> That should be no problem.
[17:26] <shadeslayer> and for that i need USB and ethernet/Wifi :)
[17:26] <shadeslayer> +support in kvm
[17:56] <PasNox> hi
[17:56] <PasNox> i'm trying to read my original os x dvd from my kubuntu
[17:57] <PasNox> but kde4 can't mount it
[17:57] <PasNox> i tryied: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/dev /mnt
[17:57] <PasNox> but i got errors, any idea ?
[18:00] <DarthFrog>  /dev/dev won't work. :-)
[18:00] <bjorn_> does anyone know what has happened to the "synaptic package manager"? I just installed the new 10.04 LTS, and can´t seem to find the old synaptic packade manager (which I think was great)
[18:01] <DarthFrog> bjorn_: It's available for installation.
[18:01] <PasNox> DarthFrog: oups bad copy, i use /dev/sr0
[18:01] <PasNox> :D
[18:02] <PasNox> i tried hfs and hfsplus same error :/
[18:02] <DarthFrog> PasNox: /dev/sr0 is your DVD drive.
[18:02] <DarthFrog> PasNox: So -t hfsplus is wrong.  should be -t iso9660
[18:02] <PasNox> DarthFrog: i want to mount an os x dvd
[18:02] <PasNox> i think it's hfs(plus) type it's not an iso9660
[18:03] <DarthFrog> Try -t iso9660
[18:03] <PasNox> ok
[18:03] <Luija> Please people I need help I am booting from my Live Cd right now because my partition is broken and I cannot access recovery mode, is there something I can do to save it from the Live CD?
[18:03] <Luija> Inside the live CD*
[18:03] <PasNox> DarthFrog: does not works, dmesg | tail tells: can't recognize the cdrom
[18:18] <WaY> hello
[18:18] <WaY> wich driver is better? nvidia private or nouveau?
[18:19] <speedvin> for what?
[18:19] <WaY> for a composited screen for example
[18:19] <speedvin> hmm
[18:19] <WaY> wich driver gives more fps
[18:20] <DarthFrog> !nouveau
[18:20] <speedvin> simple or many advanced compositions
[18:20] <DarthFrog> WaY: Does that answer your question?
[18:20] <WaY> I think that nouveau is still developing
[18:21] <speedvin> Way: you're right
[18:21] <evilshadeslayer> WaY: well you can get 3D support.. xorg edgers Crack ppa
[18:21] <WaY> ok, I will continue using private driver
[18:21] <evilshadeslayer> its straight from Git....
[18:21] <WaY> thanks to everybody
[18:22] <evilshadeslayer> WaY: private? you mean proprietary?
[18:22] <WaY> yes, sorry for my "english"
[18:22] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[18:49] <AhmedBH> Hi
[18:50] <AhmedBH> I cannot keep my display resolution on KDE after every damn restart it gets back to default  I'm so pissed off >_< ANY help seriously
[18:53] <AhmedBH> @_@ ??
[19:07] <pat5star> Hi all, has anyone upgraded from Karmic to Lucid? Any glitches or gotchas?! I'm interested in switching but hesitant as I have Karmic running beautifully on my main laptop (of course I have backups!).
[19:16] <m_tadeu> hi all
[19:17] <m_tadeu> as soon as I login, there is this kdesudo window saying "Please enter your password to use this device" and I have no clue of which devi we're talking about
[19:18] <pat5star> Hi all, has anyone upgraded from Karmic to Lucid? Any glitches or gotchas?! I'm interested in switching but hesitant as I have Karmic running beautifully on my main laptop (of course I have backups!).
[19:25] <pat5star> nobody has done the upgrade from karmic to lucid? Perhaps the ones who have lost internet access and can't respond ;)
[19:29] <m_tadeu> pat5star: it should show something on your kpackagekit
[19:30] <m_tadeu> if not, try this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:33] <ForgeAus> why is texlive so BIIG?
[19:33] <ForgeAus> 217 or so mb!!!
[19:34] <ForgeAus> ts bigger than some distros!! rofli
[19:35] <pat5star> m_tadeu: oh it does, it's just that in past upgrades (I'm talking immediately after they were made available) there has always been a few serious glitches at first. This time I'm deciding to wait for a little while before upgrading in hopes that it's all ironed out.
[19:36] <pat5star> m_tadeu: so I'm basically asking if anyone that has done the upgrade recently has experienced any common problems
[19:36] <m_tadeu> I did...had onw problem with the wireless connection
[19:37] <m_tadeu> which changed me some setting in a way that I coudn't connect
[19:37] <m_tadeu> but did another upgrade 2 days ago, and all went fine
[19:39] <pat5star> m_tadeu: cool, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm worrying about.  Then shortly after that happens to everyone, they fix it.
[19:39] <Benkinooby> hi everybody.... i killed my kubuntu a 100%... no i managed to get luxbox but all my dependencies are totally messed up and i am somewhere between karmik and lucid... right now aptitude is complaining about a lot of unmet dependencies and wants to remove my half system.... how can i get a clean 10.04?
[19:39] <pat5star> m_tadeu: right now, I have Karmic running awesome, so I don't really want to mess it up. If the major glitches are pretty much fixed with Lucid, I'd like to try the upgrade tho
[19:39] <mauri> please help me to get work my scanner canon lide100 with kubuntu
[19:40] <m_tadeu> I think it should be fixed by now, since it didn't happen 2 days ago
[19:41] <pat5star> m_tadeu: I'm trying to avoid things like what Benkinooby is stating (how's that for timing!) too...because that's happened to me in past upgrades as well!
[19:41] <pat5star> m_tadeu: ok, thanks for your input. I'll do one more backup and then attempt the upgrade :)
[19:42] <pat5star> Benkinooby: have you tried the 'force' option?
[19:42] <pat5star> Benkinooby:  apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[19:43] <Benkinooby> pat5star: yes, when i tried it before to gave me hell
[19:43] <Benkinooby> but now it is nice to me :P only wnat to revmove 5 packages :D
[19:44] <Benkinooby> sorry for typos
[19:44] <piano> Hallo.
[19:44] <pat5star> Benkinooby: I know it's not fun. Between 'forcing' it, and sometimes removing problem packages (reinstall them later) is the only way to plow through that mess
[19:45] <Benkinooby> pat5star: this is what i learned the hard way too ;)
[19:45] <Benkinooby> i had to nearly remove all my software
[19:45] <Benkinooby> even networkmanagers
[19:45] <Benkinooby> but now i am on my way up :D
[19:46] <mauri> please help me to get work my scanner canon lide100 with kubuntu
[19:46] <pat5star> Benkinooby: In your error messages, you'll get a list of the packages that are unable to install because of dependecies...I sometimes just start removing 1 by 1 (writing them down) until apt-get dist-upgrade works again, then reinstall after...it's the only way I've been able to get through it, but at the end it all works
[19:46] <Benkinooby> but now i am on my way up :D... also i see that apt-get and aptitude (which i used until now) are behaving very different
[19:46] <Benkinooby> pat5star: seems, you suffered a lot :D
[19:46] <pat5star> Benkinooby: good good, well hopefully the rest of the upgrade goes smoothly for you...I'm going to try myself soon too
[19:47] <Benkinooby> pat5star: where do i get the messages? dmesg?
[19:47] <pat5star> Benkinooby: only on upgrades...but it's worth it to me for the end product :)
[19:48] <pat5star> Benkinooby: in the konsole (if that's what you are using) when apt-get conks out...if you're not using that but instead a GUI, I'd suggest switching to apt-get in konsole for the rest of the upgrade
[19:48] <pat5star> phone rining, brb
[19:48] <Benkinooby> pat5star: np... ah i am using conole most of the time... even now i am moving from kde to fluxbox
[19:50] <Benkinooby> even if i preferd aptittude until now (it handels dependcies much better than apt) i think in future apt-get is my choice for dist-upgrade....
[19:50] <m_tadeu> barça just won the championship...gonna go to the streets and celebreate :)
[19:51] <Benkinooby> m_tadeu: u got priorities :D
[19:51] <m_tadeu> hehe oh yes...see ya guys and good luck
[19:57] <kids> anyone using realtek 888 audio and spdif?
[20:58] <angel> kubuntu spanish please ??
[20:59] <LjL> !es
[20:59] <angel> thank
[21:12] <Sonsee> hi all
[21:14] <Sonsee> is there a way to make google earth as a "background widget" on KDE 4.3?
[21:17] <hunt> Sonsee: you can use marble...
[21:17] <hunt> Sonsee: do you know about that?
[21:20] <Sonsee> Sorry, I have stupid irc client and don`t see who wrote the massege, anyway, yes, I saw video on youtube and read a little, but didn`t get how to make that on background. I have marble installed but how to use that on desktop?))
[21:26] <hunt> Sonsee: rightclick your desktop and look for it, there are other things like pattern etc, if you dont find it, you have to install it, just search for marble in kpackagekit, there should be something like kdebackground-widget-marble or similar, install it and try again
[21:38] <Sonsee> and if do have marble installed, and i can run it but I don`t have any options in desktop-settings to set it up? (marble)
[22:02] <benutzer> hi I loaded a live image via fetch command from a http server and use it from within ram, it can be retrieved from the server, but when I am logged in, there is no lan connection available, I tried networkmanager and wicd, both dont work. what can I do?
[22:03] <benutzer> sudo ifconfig eth0 down/up doesnt help
[22:20] <howlymowly> hi poeple...   I just realised my open office does not work anymore,... last week it still worked... I don't even get an error message...
[22:20] <howlymowly> were there any updates this week?
[22:20] <Guest96992> hi, i upraded to lucid but now grub is coming but i am not able to start my linux
[22:21] <Guest96992> seems like vmlinuz and initrd are missing
[22:21] <Guest96992> how can i recreate them?
[22:22] <cuznt> i get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. as an error
[22:22] <cuznt> only safe mode
[22:24] <kaddi> Hi, I need help with Virtualbox.. I uninstalled the OSE version to test the closed source version, but didn't like it much. However now when I try to install VB-ose it says:  * No suitable module for running kernel found                                                                               [fail]
[22:24] <kaddi> I'm running a 64bit lucid install
[22:26] <wingzero> hi all
[22:27] <Guest96992> seems like i erased my vmlinuz and initrd... grub can not find them :( where can i get them
[22:27] <wingzero> i have a beginners question, i installed the samba packages, and when i use dolphin to view view the network i can see my windows machinem but there are no sharesm however on another pc that also has windows i can see the shares perfectly.......
[22:31] <Guest96992> can i jsut downaod the kernel image from ubuntu or do i have to compile my own one?
[22:35] <Guest96992> grub can not find my vmlinz und initrd after i upgraded. how can i get them back?
[22:36] <kaddi> maybe try asking in #ubuntu nobody seems to be active here at the moment. But from what you say it sounds like you deleted your kernels?
[22:36] <iconmefisto> Guest96992: what error does grub give you?
[22:36] <Guest96992> iconmefisto: file not found
[22:36] <Guest96992> i set the root correctly
[22:37] <Guest96992> iconmefisto: also setup (hd1) ist ok and my stagefiles are there..... but when i wnat to boot, grub tells me i need to set the kernel first. when i checked my /boot/* folder there was no vmlinz or initrd
[22:40] <Guest96992> iconmefisto: can i donwload them somewhere, or do i need to compile them?
[22:41] <wingzero> i have a beginners question, i installed the samba packages, and when i use dolphin to view view the network i can see my windows machinem but there are no sharesm however on another pc that also has windows i can see the shares perfectly.......
[22:41] <iconmefisto> Guest96992: boot livecd, chroot, install linux-image
[22:42] <Guest96992> !!! chroot ok... thx! hope i don't need to brb ;)
[22:42] <Guest96992> lol
[22:47] <iconmefisto> kaddi: I don't have a solution for your vbox problem, but what did you not like about the non-ose vbox? I thought they were the same except ose doesn't have usb
[23:00] <draik> How do I disable the turning off to my monitors?
[23:01] <cuznt> i get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. as an error
[23:01] <cuznt> anyone?
[23:02] <Twey> Have you considered doing as it says?
[23:02] <cuznt> i do not know how
[23:02] <cuznt> thus i ask...
[23:02] <kaddi> iconmefisto: i actually got it sorted at #ubuntu.. an autoclean-purge was all that was needed. non ose vbox is crashing on me when I try to run ComboFix. It was working fine on the ose version
[23:02] <Twey> Open up a terminal, enter ‘sudo nvidia-xconfig’, press enter, enter your password, press enter
[23:02] <cuznt> i tried sudo nvisia-xconfig
[23:02] <Twey> Log out and in again
[23:03] <cuznt> i did that.
[23:03] <Twey> And what was the resultant error?
[23:04] <cuznt> im not sure it starts in the safe mode
[23:04] <iconmefisto> logging out is not enough. you need to restart X
[23:04] <cuznt> the few times it does it correctly it does not remember my resolution
[23:04] <cuznt> i have restarted twice
[23:05] <cuznt> as my sound is not working either
[23:05] <draik> My monitors turn off after 15 minutes or so of inactivity. How do I disable that?
[23:06] <cuznt> ahhh... extra i... me runs sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:06] <iconmefisto> draik: systemsettings > advanced tab > power management
[23:08] <draik> iconmefisto: I have all profiles to assure monitor doesn't turn off. This time, I disabled the power management by PowerDevil. I hope that does it.
[23:10] <cuznt> no change
[23:12] <iconmefisto> draik: could it be the "blank screen" screen saver? or is the monitor really turning off?
[23:13] <iconmefisto> draik: I think that kicks in after 15 minutes by default
[23:13] <draik> iconmefisto: Not the "blank screen" screensaver. I get the message that it is not connect, as to when the monitor is not connected to the computer.
[23:22] <totho> hi boy!!!!!!!!!!
[23:22] <totho> !list
[23:24] <draik> iconmefisto: Just happened again. Looks like 10 minutes
[23:28] <harjot> how come my kubuntu locks up/takes very loong timee to unlock after leaving it for about 4 hours?
[23:31] <harjot> anyone?
[23:31] <harjot> how come my kubuntu locks up/takes very loong timee to unlock after leaving it for about 4 hours?
[23:31] <harjot> it started happening after using dekorator
[23:31] <harjot> and superkaramba and kbfx
[23:36] <heath> has anyone been successful in getting kopete to connect to facebook's xmpp service?
[23:36] <harjot> heath: are you on hardy?
[23:37] <heath> harjot: yees
[23:37] <heath> yes*
[23:37] <harjot> heath: same, and it seems that kopete doesnt wish to connect with 8.04s version of kopete
[23:38] <harjot> heath: so no luck
[23:38] <harjot> heath: you could try the facebook plugin if you are desperate
[23:38] <heath> i am
[23:38] <harjot> ok i will link just a sec
[23:38] <heath> thanks
[23:40] <slow-motion> n8
[23:40] <harjot> heath: sorry i need to go, but search for kopete facebook plugin, and also the plugin should be around this website, else look for a dowload http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/644
[23:44] <heath> where is the kmail info located in ~/.kde?
[23:44] <heath> i just deleted ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[23:44] <heath> but it didn't delete my kmail information
[23:44] <heath> it still has my settings saved
[23:44] <heath> and they need to go bye-bye
[23:44] <heath> i need to start afresh
[23:45] <iconmefisto> heath: .kde/share/config/kmail*
[23:45] <heath> thanks iconmefisto
[23:46] <lba> What is the name of the firewall that is included in Kubuntu 8.04?
[23:47] <iconmefisto> lba: iptables? ufw?
[23:48] <zus> does virtual box support 3-d gaming?
[23:49] <lba> iconmefisto, It's probably iptables based but has some other name.  I think you install it with apt-get.
[23:50] <heath> what type of auth metod do you guys/gals use for smtp with gmail?
[23:50] <iconmefisto> lba: guarddog?
[23:50] <heath> lba: i don't think there is a firewall that comes with kubuntu 8.04
[23:51] <heath> i've never known ubuntu ship a firewall
[23:51] <lba> iconmefisto, It's ufw and is installed.  I'll just temporarily enable it because my normal router may have had a lightening hit.  You normally install it with apt-get which is what I did but forgot the name.
[23:52] <lba> heath, Kubuntu doesn't ship with a firewall but it's recommended and available for kubuntu.
[23:53] <heath> here's the error i keep receiving from kmail while attempting to send via smtp: http://pastebin.com/C3Z10WpF
[23:54] <avihay> zus: should support oprngl out of the box and direct-x with wined3d
[23:55] <zus> avihay,  thanks
[23:55] <draik> Anyone know of an app for creating an archive of my movies? I want to be able to store it on my computer and view what I have.
[23:56] <avihay> zus: the wined3d dosen't work for me dor some reason
[23:56] <smokealot> draik: view from a tv?
[23:57] <avihay> dor->for
[23:57] <iconmefisto> heath: mine is set to PLAIN and works. what port number and server are you using? mine is port 587 smtp.gmail.com
[23:58] <iconmefisto> heath: and encryption set to TLS
[23:59] <Luija1006> Kate does not wanna open grease monkey scripts to edit them, it says an error ocurrs when interpreting them, but in 9.10 everything was fine, whats wrong?


[04:50] <pitti> balloons: nuclearbob is gone, but FYI: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/ *adt* is history; http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/ is the current stuff
[13:55] <balloons> pitti, ahh right, lol.. And it's all good atm: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/ubiquity/
[14:25] <pitti> nuclearbob: FYI: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/ *adt* is history; http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/ is the current stuff
[14:25] <nuclearbob> pitti: good to know, thanks
[14:25] <pitti> nuclearbob: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-August/001145.html
[14:26] <nuclearbob> pitti: thanks!
[14:26] <pitti> nuclearbob: you're welcome!
[14:26] <nuclearbob> pitti: how are things in the not-qa team?
[14:26] <pitti> nuclearbob: how are you these days?
[14:26] <pitti> nuclearbob: still fairly QA'ish TBH -- working on britney as we speak
[14:26] <nuclearbob> pitti: I'm good. Just moved to Indianapolis, getting setup here, figuring out how much home automation stuff I can do when I rent
[14:26] <pitti> home automation> scary
[14:27] <nuclearbob> I'm just sticking to lights right now
[14:27] <nuclearbob> but I cheaped out and got a hub that doesn't have a good api, so I'll have to get something better later
[15:33] <cyphermox> davmor2: one thing you could confirm, is if the slideshow is messed up for you too -- on the Help and support slide.
[15:38] <nuclearbob> DanChapman, balloons: did somebody file a bug about the i386 problems?
[15:41] <DanChapman> nuclearbob: I haven't yet, i was afk last night and didn't have time. I can do it when I get home this evening if it hasn't already.
[15:41] <balloons> flocculant ^^?
[15:41] <nuclearbob> DanChapman: I'm working on it, just checking if somebody else had something I can point to
[15:42] <balloons> I also didn't, lol. I feel like I saw the bug that described it, but thinking about it now, that was for the live session issue from a couple days ago
[15:42] <balloons> so no, I don't know of a bug
[15:43] <flocculant> flocculant: what's up?
[15:45] <nuclearbob> whoa, flocculant's talking to flocculant
[15:45] <DanChapman> :-)
[15:45] <davmor2> cyphermox: will do
[15:45] <flocculant> that comes with age nuclearbob - you look about for someone sensible to talk to :D
[15:46] <flocculant> so - balloons - what's up :)
[16:00] <balloons> flocculant, just curious if you filed or new of the bug that was preventing i386 window decorations from appearing
[16:09] <flocculant> balloons: oh right - not even seen it, if it's an Ubuntu bug - I probably wouldn't have. Not seeing that for us though


[12:14]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[13:55] <MacSlow> SiDi, just trying to get my record straight... you're Steve Dodier aren't you?
[13:56] <MacSlow> SiDi, the same person behind -> http://www.youtube.com/user/SiDi35 ?!
[14:13] <SiDi> MacSlow: i am ;)
[14:13] <SiDi> its me too
[14:13] <SiDi> sidi was taken :D
[14:14] <MacSlow> SiDi, ok... it always hard trying to keep up with IRC-nicks and peoples real names if they are not you colleagues
[14:14] <SiDi> indeed
[14:15] <SiDi> especially when you're on 10 channels all with their own people inside :)
[14:15] <SiDi> oh btw MacSlow i think i heard of chances in the way sync notifications are used, do you mind explaining me what changes please ?
[14:19] <MacSlow> SiDi, atm not sure what you are refereing to there... got an URL with some comment on the issue?
[14:19] <SiDi> i mean, you said on an ML (not sure which) that there would be changes in g-s-d and g-p-m regarding the notifications
[14:19] <SiDi> if i understood well, MacSlow
[18:40] <macvr> SiDi: changes have been made to the notify-osd guidelines, but i'm not sure if those were the ones you were looking for
[18:45] <SiDi> macvr: do you know which changes ?
[18:46] <SiDi> i wanna make sure it wont break xfce4-volumed which uses volume synchronous notifications
[18:47] <macvr> SiDi: mostly size specs >http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD?action=diff&rev1=154&rev2=155
[19:09] <djsiegel1> bratsche: do you think this could be treated as a paper cut? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/389929
[19:10] <bratsche> What kind of popup menu is this talking about?    I mean, a popup is just a menu and you can already define accelerator keys on menus.
[19:16] <bratsche> So if you're typing to access a menu by the first character of the menuitem.. you've already got a potential conflict between that first character and the accelerator.
[19:17] <bratsche> Or maybe it's a combobox widget.. it's hard to tell what he means.
[19:17] <bratsche> I think that's what he means.
[19:19] <djsiegel1> yes
[19:19] <djsiegel1> combobox, bratsche
[19:19] <djsiegel1> that's it
[19:19] <bratsche> Yeah, I think that would be a cool thing to do.  I think people have talked about this before, not sure if there are any patches floating around yet.
[19:23] <bratsche> I won't have any time to work on it this week as I'm starting on a UNR project with Neil, but if it's not urgent then I could look into it later in next week if you want.
[19:34] <bratsche> djsiegel1: I linked to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310931
[19:35] <djsiegel1> bratsche: thanks, will check now
[19:50] <mrooney> djsiegel1: wow, two aggressive papercuts :) the replace dialog and unable to unmount issue
[19:58] <djsiegel1> mrooney: yeah
[19:58] <djsiegel1> mrooney: the replace dialog has a great patch available, so all it might need is a push
[19:58] <djsiegel1> mrooney: and the unable to unmount issue might not be solvable, but we can at least make it more friendly for novice users
[20:05] <magcius> The unable to unmount would be an excellent papercut to solve.
[20:05] <magcius> I think using DeviceKit and PolicyKit can solve this.
[20:06] <magcius> If you want to make an aggressive change like that.
[20:09] <djsiegel1> magcius: well, that wouldn't be a paper cut solution
[20:09] <djsiegel1> sounds like a lot of work
[20:09] <ScottK> Much of which is already planned for Karmic.
[20:09] <ScottK> The question would be what's the additional work required.
[20:10] <mrooney> djsiegel1: did you see my comment about the replace dialog? I wasn't sure if you needed help (I could get out a PPA) or if someone at Canonical was working on that
[20:10] <djsiegel1> mrooney: always assume that I need help, please :)
[20:11] <djsiegel1> ScottK: oh, cool
[20:11] <djsiegel1> ScottK: can you add anything to the bug report to that effect?
[20:11] <ScottK> djsiegel1: You might discuss it with pitti as IIRC he's doing some of that work.
[20:11] <djsiegel1> ok, thank you
[20:11] <ScottK> djsiegel1: I don't know enough of the details to say anything meaningful.
[20:11] <mrooney> alright I'll try to get out a nautilus 2.27 PPA with that patch, for jaunty within the next day or two
[20:12] <djsiegel1> cool, mrooney
[20:12] <djsiegel1> https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/trunk -- we have 50 now
[20:12] <djsiegel1> I am going to blog and email and tweet on Friday, hopefully we can get people looking at them
[20:12] <djsiegel1> I need to become a nautilus hacker
[20:13] <djsiegel1> so many of these are in nautilus
[20:13] <ScottK> Your time is probably better spent trying to attract nautilus hackers.
[20:13] <djsiegel1> ScottK: but it would be so much easier if I could just fix these myself...
[20:13] <djsiegel1> :)
[20:15] <djsiegel1> ScottK: do you have any suggestions for attracting nautilus hackers? I wonder how many people are knowledgeable enough about the codebase to fix these.
[20:15] <djsiegel1> 10 people? 100? 2?
[20:16] <djsiegel1> The last thing I want is all of these bugs bombarding a handful of people upstream, who get overwhelmed and ignore them.
[20:16] <djsiegel1> Many of them are 20, 30 line fixes that have been sitting around for 5+ years
[20:16] <djsiegel1> because upstream is just backlogged
[20:16]  * ScottK is a KDE guy.  No idea.
[20:21] <mrooney> if there are upstream patches the best thing is probably an email to the list or pinging in IRC, if there hasn't been any feedback on the tracker
[20:23] <magcius> Most developers track the mailing list but not IRC.
[20:23] <magcius> Just my personal experience.


[19:18] <DammitJim> anyone here going to fossetcon?
[19:21] <mhall119> I am
[19:22] <mhall119> DammitJim: are you?
[19:22] <DammitJim> yes
[19:22] <DammitJim> awesome! I'll get to see you guys... it's been like 3 years, I think
[19:22] <DammitJim> do you guys need help?
[19:23] <DammitJim> I'm not sure how much I can do, but I can try to help like move stuff or carry stuff
[20:27] <DammitJim> ok, sorry about that mhall119
[20:27] <DammitJim> I was saying... if you guys need help
[20:44] <mhall119> DammitJim: no worries, I'll be at the booth and running UbuCon, if you want to just hang out and talk to people about Ubuntu that would be a help
[20:45] <DammitJim> ok, great!
[20:45] <DammitJim> do you have to get there early?
[20:45] <DammitJim> I can help you unload stuff from the car or whatever you have
[20:49] <mhall119> DammitJim: yeah, I'll probably be there early on the 19th, not sure what time
[20:49] <DammitJim> anyone else coming?
[20:49] <mhall119> help setting up the booth would be much appreciated
[20:49] <mhall119> ahoneybun_ is coming with some others from down south
[20:50] <mhall119> jose is coming in from Peru
[20:50] <DammitJim> let me know a time and I can see if I can be there earlier
[20:50] <mhall119> and someone from the desktop team at Canonical is going to be there
[20:50] <DammitJim> ah, nice!
[20:50] <DammitJim> Jose, why does he sound familiar
[20:50] <mhall119> DammitJim: thanks, I'll let you know
[20:50] <DammitJim> did the Jose move to Peru?
[20:50] <mhall119> DammitJim: because he's all *over* Ubuntu stuff
[22:38] <ahoneybun> o/


[22:06] <dahlberg> hi all, having no sound from flash in firefox after fresh 11.04 install. anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?


[21:19] <bkerensa> holy smoke nathwill is here
[21:20] <nathwill> indeed!
[21:20] <nathwill> how goes


[00:29] <MFen> let me put it another way.. what causes a service to be recognized as a service? just having a file in /etc/init? and what determines the name.. just the part prefixing ".conf"?
[01:24] <SpamapS> MFen: init-checkconf /etc/init/bulkagent.conf
[01:24] <SpamapS> MFen: also look in syslog for errors related to its syntax
[01:24] <SpamapS> MFen: the name is everything before .conf yes
[01:25] <SpamapS> MFen: and iwatch has to pick up the change in /etc/init .. you might try 'initctl reload-configuration' just in case


[05:30] <ripperda> if I've scheduled a recording, then watched it, does mythtv automatically delete it? I'm having trouble deleting recordings of livetv, but appear to have lost an intentionally recorded show
[05:31] <rhpot1991> ripperda: no it shouldn't
[05:31] <rhpot1991> ripperda: it will however autoexpire recordings and live tv as hard drive space is needed
[05:31] <rhpot1991> df -h
[05:31] <rhpot1991> hows your HD usage?
[05:32] <ripperda> looks like I have 61G free
[05:33] <ripperda> hmm, so if I go to media library -> watch recordings, my new show does not show up, but older shows (from playing around last night) do
[05:33] <ripperda> if I go to manage recordings -> previous recordings, the new show does show up
[05:35] <ripperda> hmm, ok, I won't worry about that right now.
[05:36] <ripperda> how do I intentionally delete recordings? if I go into "delete recordings" or "watch recordings" and press 'd', a dialog comes up that asks if I want to delete.
[05:36] <ripperda> but regardless of whether I select yes or no, the recordings don't delete.
[05:37] <rhpot1991> ripperda: sounds like the show didn't record if its not in there
[05:37] <rhpot1991> ripperda: I hit m or i and in there it has an option for delete
[05:37] <rhpot1991> should pop up a menu
[05:39] <ripperda> rhpot1991, but we did watch it earlier today.. hmm, we did watch when it was live, mythtv asked if we wanted to change channels to record it (we had a different channel on at the time). I'll have to experiment with things more
[05:40] <rhpot1991> ripperda: if you watched it live it may be in a different location
[05:40] <rhpot1991> live tv is recorded but its not a "recording"
[05:41] <rhpot1991> watch recordings > m [menu] > change group filter
[05:41] <ripperda> ah, there it is!
[05:41] <ripperda> sweet, thanks!
[05:44] <rhpot1991> ripperda: keep in mind you need to switch back to see your recordings
[05:45] <ripperda> rhpot1991, yes, thanks. still new to things and really getting up to speed. reading through the user manual right now
[09:28] <henkpoley> After my latest updates, X11 shows a mythbuntu logo with a huge white square at startup
[09:28] <henkpoley> Known bug, fix for that ?
[09:29] <henkpoley> It's a centred mythbuntu logo which fills white to the top and the left of the screen
[09:48] <Technophil> Yea I get that too on mythbuntu 9.10.  seems the new standard....
[13:55] <sudo_technician> how can I check my WAN settings for mythweb...can enter local address <IP_ADDRESS>:8080.
[13:55] <sudo_technician> do I try to ping server?
[14:05] <sudo_technician> mythtv_guy: you there
[14:23] <rhpot1991> sudo_technician: 192.168.x.x is a local ip
[14:24] <rhpot1991> you are trying to check it from the interweb?
[14:26] <sudo_technician> yea...headed out the door though
[14:26] <sudo_technician> should be http://seanhebert.is-a-geek.com
[14:26] <Zinn> [seanhebert.is-a-geek.com] Welcome to MythWeb!
[14:27] <sudo_technician> got a web hop going...wan't to make sure it's linked
[14:28] <sudo_technician> don't know how to route ping from outside my network
[14:28] <rhpot1991> sudo_technician: that works, you should password protect it ASAP though
[14:28] <sudo_technician> there goes my throughput
[14:29] <sudo_technician> yea better do
[14:29] <sudo_technician> thnks
[14:29] <rhpot1991> no problem
[14:29] <rhpot1991> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[14:29] <rhpot1991> and it will ask you about password protecting
[14:32] <sudo_technician> done
[14:32] <sudo_technician> didn't do it before because only a few knew my address
[14:33] <sudo_technician> thnks rhpot1991
[14:34] <rhpot1991> sudo_technician: ya its a good idea to protect that, if some no good do'er got in there they could mess things up for you
[14:34] <sudo_technician> ruin my whole day.
[19:19] <rhpot1991> henkpoley: Technophil thats from disabling composite
[19:19] <rhpot1991> or at lest on my system
[19:20] <henkpoley> hmm, makes sense
[20:07] <Technophil> rhpot1991: Interesting.  Are you saying its ok to re-enable in the later drivers such as 195.32?
[20:07] <rhpot1991> Technophil: up to you, it helps with tearing on mine so I keep it off
[20:07] <rhpot1991> and how often do you really reboot to see that splash screen?
[20:08] <Technophil> BE- with kernel updates only really...  FE's - frequently!
[20:09] <Technophil> But yeah does it matter?  9.04 did not do it with composite off....
[20:10] <Technophil> what nvidia driver version are you running now rhpot1991?
[20:50] <Crewsr3> Would a small ITX Motherboard with an Atom processor have enough power to run a good MythTV front end?
[20:52] <rhpot1991> !frontend | Crewsr3
[20:52] <Zinn> Crewsr3: Ion Boxes make a great frontend.  http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2
[20:53] <Crewsr3> rhpot1991, thanks for the link
[21:34] <ahughes^> hey guys, why is xchat missing from the mybuntu synaptec package manager? I am assuming that mythbunut get's a different list of packaes than ubuntu... can I get a complete list of myth+ubuntu packages somehow?
[21:35]  * ahughes^ wants to talk in this chat room from his myth box :'(
[21:42] <superm1> ahughes^, same repo as ubuntu
[21:42] <superm1> ahughes^, if you aren't seeing it in synaptic, you need to use the full search button
[21:42] <superm1> not the quick search
[21:43] <ahughes^> ahhhh kewl
[21:44] <ahughes^> same repo is good to know :)
[21:45] <superm1> all this information is on mythbuntu.org..
[21:45] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] About Mythbuntu | Mythbuntu
[21:46] <superm1> eg http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[21:46] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu
[23:35] <MNichie> If I buy an analog card tv card, can I watch cable tv(straight coax) out of the box or will I need to get a digital converter box to get it to work with mythtv?
[23:47] <tgm4883> MNichie, that would depend on how your cable is broadcast
[23:47] <tgm4883> for instance, comcast only does local channels in analog now
[23:48] <tgm4883> at least in salem, oregon
[23:49] <mrand> tgm4883: it is that way all over.  And some cable companies are switching over to digital cable even for local channels, such that they give you a very simple digital converter box.
[23:54] <rhpot1991> I still have analog with comcast
[23:55] <rhpot1991> but they are broadcasting some of it in clear qam so its gonna go away at some point
[23:55] <rhpot1991> and the clear qam normally goes away too


[03:38] <babelfish1> kind of a dumb question, but mythbuntu hides many of the system administration panels (e.g., on hard drive partitions), any quick way to add such things back to hte gui?
[03:58] <kcorcoran__> newbie here - hoping for some guidance to get mythbuntu up and running.  ubuntu v10.10 and installed mybuntu - looking for help on next steps or links to a guide.  anyone?
[04:54] <MoMo> so i'm looking through the setup options for the frontend -- how do i make the frontend go full screen.  It's not windowed (doesn't have the x button, etc in the top) however the top and bottom task bar are still visible
[04:54] <MoMo> (this is a myth upgrade from regular ubuntu 10.10)
[05:09] <tgm4883> MoMo, you disable compiz, or enable legacy mode in compiz
[05:12] <MoMo> how do i do this?
[05:12] <MoMo> but no i haven't done either
[05:33] <MoMo> ?
[05:53] <MoMo> does anyone have cox cable?
[06:00] <rhpot1991> nope
[06:00] <rhpot1991> something like that you may be better trying on the mailing list or in #mythtv-users
[06:00] <rhpot1991> !mailing%
[06:00] <Zinn> The MythTV Users mailing list is located at: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[06:01] <rhpot1991> MoMo: ^
[06:01] <MoMo> I'm just trying to figure out the best way to connect my backend box ... with a capture card? or buy the tunerbox from the cable company ... the capture card's picture isn't the best
[06:02] <rhpot1991> MoMo: depends what channels you are after
[06:02] <MoMo> right now i'm going after quality =\
[06:02] <rhpot1991> most cable companies will be the same as far as that goes
[06:02] <rhpot1991> http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/13
[06:02] <rhpot1991> I list my tuners there
[06:02] <Zinn> [www.baablogic.net] My MythTV Setup | www.baablogic.net
[06:03] <rhpot1991> HDHR would get you your locals, and then if you hook up a HDPVR to a cable company supplied cable box that should get you all the rest
[06:04] <MoMo> so ... you have 5 tuners?
[06:05] <rhpot1991> 6 at this point, I stopped using the firewire for the time being
[06:05] <rhpot1991> 2 phsical
[06:05] <MoMo> oh -- i was trying to think how you physically put that many in
[06:05] <MoMo> =\
[06:06] <rhpot1991> and then the one is a dual tuner, which can record multiple shows per tuner
[06:07] <rhpot1991> they are both external too
[06:07] <rhpot1991> one usb one ethernet
[06:07] <MoMo> i have the haup win1600
[06:07] <rhpot1991> MoMo: you trying to get HD or SD?
[06:07] <MoMo> hd
[06:08] <rhpot1991> hopefully thats the q model
[06:08] <rhpot1991> which does clear qam
[06:08] <MoMo> how can i tell?
[06:09] <rhpot1991> I may be thinking of the 1800, checking
[06:10] <MoMo> i've been trying to get a decent setup for about three months =(  .... my setup is a dedicated backend and a dedicated frontend -- because our TV room can't physically run coax to it so i figure i can use wireless
[06:10] <rhpot1991> what kind of wireless?
[06:11] <rhpot1991> "Some of the HVR-1600's (product code 74021 and 74041 found on the tuner label) also support Clear QAM, which is most likely the stuff your cable company uses for your local HD channels"
[06:11] <MoMo> the fastest kind -- right now i have an cat5 cable running to it -- just to get it setup
[06:11] <rhpot1991> wireless is generally a bad idea
[06:11] <rhpot1991> especially with HD
[06:11] <rhpot1991> for instance I wasn't able to do SD on my old 802.11g
[06:11] <MoMo> i'm going to buy that new standard just for this
[06:12] <rhpot1991> I can on my 802.11n (5ghz), but holding a connection is a pain
[06:12] <rhpot1991> its generally better to just wire it if you can, but that can be done later
[06:12] <rhpot1991> I'd go wired for the setup for sure
[06:12] <MoMo> well the AP to the node is about 30 feet with 1 glass wall between them
[06:12] <rhpot1991> as far as that tuner goes it should be fairly easy to setup anymore, assuming you are on a recent version of mythbuntu/ubuntu?
[06:12] <MoMo> ubuntu 10.10
[06:13] <MoMo> for the frontend -- mythbuntu 10.10 for the backend
[06:13] <MoMo> everything works fine -- connectivity is solid -- quality is just horrible.  which i attribute to not knowing how to setup the backend
[06:13] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600#Backend_Setup
[06:13] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge HVR-1600 - MythTV
[06:14] <rhpot1991> describe how the quality is bad
[06:14] <rhpot1991> backend setup is pretty straight forward, I'm thinking maybe your frontend is underpowered or not configured for playback very well
[06:14] <rhpot1991> if you get video backend is normally right
[06:16] <MoMo> its running at 1080p ... but the picture is not sharp, its kind of blurry ... sometimes the video will lag and audio will mis-sync ... shades of green are seen
[06:16] <rhpot1991> what are the specs on your frontend, cpu and video card?
[06:16] <MoMo> sizing goes in an out like CRAZY -- commericals will be full screen, programs will be that box size, and then the program will expand ... and commericals will take that box shape =\
[06:17] <MoMo> its an out of hte box dell inspiron
[06:17] <MoMo> ati onboard hdmi
[06:17] <MoMo> 6 gb memory
[06:19] <MoMo> AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor
[06:19] <MoMo> 800Mhz
[06:19] <rhpot1991> yuck ati
[06:20] <rhpot1991> ok lets do this
[06:20] <rhpot1991> on your frontend go setup > setup > tv > playback
[06:20] <rhpot1991> I think 4th page is playback profiles, which one is it on?
[06:21] <MoMo> cpu+
[06:22] <rhpot1991> change that to normal
[06:23] <rhpot1991> then
[06:23] <rhpot1991> hit the edit button next to each one, and increase the max cpus
[06:24] <rhpot1991> you have 4, so pick 4 or less
[06:24] <rhpot1991> you may be able to get away with high quality too, but try normal first
[06:29] <MoMo> okay -- testing
[06:30] <MoMo> nope still like ass =(
[06:30] <Zinn> MoMo: Please watch your language.
[06:31] <rhpot1991> MoMo: I'd check your logs for hints
[06:31] <rhpot1991> !logs
[06:31] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[06:31] <rhpot1991> and something like this is a general configuration issue, so it may be easier to get help in #mythtv-users, may even be able to find someone with the same card to help out in there
[06:31] <MoMo> trying HQ
[06:31] <rhpot1991> don't bother
[06:32] <rhpot1991> HQ wont help if normal didn't work
[06:32] <MoMo> well let me see how i have my card set up
[06:32] <rhpot1991> are you using the open source or proprietary drivers for ati?
[06:32] <MoMo> open source -- the proprietary ones break my pc
[06:33] <rhpot1991> that may be part of your issue
[06:33] <MoMo> my backend capture card setting is on h.264 encoder card
[06:33] <rhpot1991> that not right
[06:33] <MoMo> =P
[06:33] <rhpot1991> I linked you for how to set it up above
[06:33] <rhpot1991> check your settings with that
[06:33] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600#Backend_Setup
[06:33] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge HVR-1600 - MythTV
[06:34] <MoMo> thats what i'm doing right now -- hopefully it helps
[06:34] <MoMo> do i need to have a coax cable plugged into both of these jacks on the card?
[06:35] <rhpot1991> only if you want to use both
[06:35] <rhpot1991> one is for analog, one is for digital
[06:35] <rhpot1991> odds are your cable company is getting rid of analog anyways
[06:38] <MoMo> so i'm scanning channel for the QAM for the DVB tuner ... =\ and its saying timed out no signal
[06:38] <MoMo> wait - i didn't read something
[06:38] <rhpot1991> might want to verify your card can do clear qam
[06:39] <rhpot1991> make sure you have the frequency setup correctly for it too, cable
[06:41] <MoMo> or make sure the cable is plugged in right jack =P
[06:46] <MoMo> how do you like that hdhomerun thing?
[06:47] <rhpot1991> love it
[06:47] <rhpot1991> just works
[06:47] <rhpot1991> and I use it for almost all of my recordings
[06:47] <MoMo> and you get 5 tuners?
[06:47] <rhpot1991> kinda
[06:47] <MoMo> ?
[06:47] <rhpot1991> 2 physical
[06:47] <rhpot1991> and the other 3 are virtuals
[06:47] <rhpot1991> so if you have channels on the same multiplex you can record them
[06:47] <MoMo> whats a multiplex?
[06:49] <rhpot1991> for instance my nbc and cbs are on the same
[06:49] <rhpot1991> so I can record them both using a single tuner
[06:50] <MoMo> can you get two of these hdhomeruns and call it day?
[06:50] <rhpot1991> if you only care about clear qam channels
[06:51] <rhpot1991> IE your locals
[06:54] <MoMo> see i'm trying to debate if it's worth all this work or if i should just get this cox dvr service
[06:55] <rhpot1991> I wont use any cable's dvr service
[06:56] <MoMo> yeah but -- i'm under the impression that in order to get my hd channels and extended programming i need their box
[06:56] <rhpot1991> you need a box, and something like a hdpvr to record from it
[06:56] <rhpot1991> silicondust does have a cable card tuner coming out soonish which will help with that as well
[06:57] <MoMo> so how do i get the channels on my account though -- when i called they said i couldn't get that programming unless i bought the box fee with it
[06:57] <rhpot1991> if the cable companies dvr does what you want it will be easier to setup, but they are mostly lacking in features and flexibility, and its more cable company rental crap as well
[06:58] <MoMo> i agree with all of the above -- but when its all said and done i just want to get the good picture quality
[06:58] <rhpot1991> MoMo: well for mine I get my locals via the hdhr
[06:58] <rhpot1991> and then I use the hdpvr hooked up to a cable company stb to record all the other cable channels
[06:59] <rhpot1991> that records over component, so it used the cable box itself as a tuner and just records the output
[06:59] <MoMo> how hard is that to set up?
[07:00] <MoMo> i see firewire here and there
[07:00] <rhpot1991> I use firewire for the tuning of the cable box, which is pretty simple
[07:00] <rhpot1991> you could use an irblaster to do that as well
[07:01] <rhpot1991> sadly you still need to pay the $10 a month for a box then
[07:03] <MoMo> your not in san diego by chance are you?
[07:03] <rhpot1991> not even close :)
[07:04] <MoMo> damn it would be easier to just pay you and set this up lol
[07:04] <Zinn> MoMo: Please watch your language.
[07:04] <MoMo> i guess i could just buy your setup =\
[07:05] <rhpot1991> you shoudl be able to work with what you have
[07:05] <rhpot1991> you need to figure out if that tuner can do qam
[07:05] <rhpot1991> if not its only good for an antenna which may not help you much
[07:05] <rhpot1991> then you need to deal with your ati
[07:05] <rhpot1991> most mythtv people use nvidia anymore
[07:11] <rhpot1991> bed time for me, I'll be around tomorrow if you have any other questions
[07:13] <MoMo> i got an nvidia -- no dice
[07:13] <MoMo> the GT 220 ... wouldn't do sound
[08:12] <qwebirc64675> im having problems testing mythbuntu using the 64-bit 10.10 live cd
[08:12] <qwebirc64675> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /etc/init.d/mysql start Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service mysql start  Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start mysql start: Unknown job: mysql ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[14:41] <tmkt> quick q... since installing a vdpau card, when I go to watchtv and view the guide..the live tv preview isn't scaled, it's cropped, any idea what would be causing this?
[14:43] <tmkt> memory check the other day was clean...so I move to putting a nvidia card in rather then the onboard ati(stopped the random system lockups so far)
[14:50] <rhpot1991> MoMo: GT220 does doe sound
[14:51] <rhpot1991> with that card you want vdpau normal playback profile, and then you need to figure out what device the hdmi sound is for it (I've seen it on hw1,3 I think)
[16:33] <superm1> qwebirc64675, mysql's upstart script is disabled for the live cd
[16:33] <superm1> you can re-enable it by renaming the job in /etc/init
[17:04] <tgm4883> heh
[17:04] <tgm4883> Warning: We believe your account was recently accessed from: United States (CA) (symantec.com:<IP_ADDRESS>).
[17:04] <tgm4883> i'm there right now?
[17:06] <superm1> in california?
[17:08] <tgm4883> actually, it is kinda odd
[17:08] <tgm4883> especially since I route all my web traffic through PA
[17:13] <tgm4883> superm1, hopefully my yubikey will be here today and I can change all of my passwords
[17:13] <tgm4883> do you have rhpot1991 have that all figured out yet?
[17:14] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: your traffic goes through NH actually I think
[17:15] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, odd, gmail reports it as PA
[17:15] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: my server right?
[17:15] <rhpot1991> also mythwikiscripts is interesting
[17:15] <rhpot1991> I never knew that existed
[17:15] <rhpot1991> makes the wiki code much less annoying
[17:15] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, yep
[17:23] <superm1> rhpot1991, i think it reports as PA for me too
[18:27] <tmkt> rhpot1991: my freeze up issues seem to have been caused by the onboard video card i think
[18:27] <tmkt> memtest came out clean
[18:27] <tmkt> put in a spare nvidia card i had...and so far so good
[18:27] <tmkt> 14 hrs of uptime
[18:28] <rhpot1991> tmkt: see if you can disable it in the bios then
[18:28] <tmkt> disable the onboard video card?
[18:28] <tmkt> yeah...thats my next step next time i reboot
[18:28] <tmkt> it was a crappy ati card
[18:29] <tmkt> but at least it display the live tv preview properly in the guide view...which this nvidia one isn't doing
[18:32] <rhpot1991> tmkt: are you using vdpau on that then?
[18:33] <tmkt> yeah
[18:33] <tmkt> if i disable vdpau the preview is fine
[18:33] <tmkt> its odd
[18:34] <rhpot1991> I think there are some bugs out there about that if you look
[18:34] <rhpot1991> I'd say its a good tradeoff though, vdpau is nice
[18:34] <rhpot1991> also I don't use mine for livetv, just recordings
[18:34] <tmkt> yeah...been trying to look...haven't been able to get the right collection of keywords i guess
[18:34] <tmkt> been looking up stuf like vdpau cropped preview, vdpau not scaling during guide
[18:34] <tmkt> when i add a new tuner
[18:34] <tmkt> and do a scan
[18:35] <tmkt> to i have to say yes to update channel information?
[18:35] <rhpot1991> depends on the tuner and source info
[18:36] <rhpot1991> some of them can use the info from others if they are duplicates
[18:36] <tmkt> well...have hvr-1600 right now... ota buffalo/toronto
[18:36] <rhpot1991> others you will need to setup fresh
[18:36] <tmkt> adding an hvr-850
[18:36] <tmkt> using the same buffalo/toronto ota
[18:36] <tmkt> just want to be able to get the pip/pbp going
[18:36] <rhpot1991> you should be able to just use the same source info
[18:37] <rhpot1991> I normally fetch my channels from the source then
[18:37] <rhpot1991> if you aren't doing that you may need to scan
[18:37] <rhpot1991> ideally you don't want duplicate channels unless they are broadcast a different way, like qam vs astc
[18:37] <tmkt> had it working 2 weeks ago..can't recall what i did...but took the 2nd tuner out thinking it was causing the lockups..and forgot all the magic i did back then
[18:37] <tmkt> yeah...no duplicate channels
[18:37] <tmkt> but how does myth know they are available on both tuners if i dont update the channels
[18:38] <rhpot1991> I think maybe you scan and say no to updating the channels then
[18:38] <tmkt> give that a shot when i get back
[18:38] <rhpot1991> well you say source 1 has channels 1, 2, 3
[18:38] <rhpot1991> and both tuner 1 and tuner 2 use source 1
[18:40] <tmkt> ok...so as long as they are both set to Source1:Buffalo/Toronto
[18:40] <tmkt> i should be fine
[19:53] <richyw> hey kenn jemand ein paar richtig gute seiten um über hardware und mythbuntu zu lesen, also testberichte, welche funktionen vorhanden sind, ob die treiber vorhanden sind usw.
[19:53] <richyw> ich weiß das bei ubuntuusers schon sehr viel steht, hoffe aber auf empfehlungen von experten andere seiten zu bekommen
[19:55] <superm1> english in here
[19:55] <richyw> sorry
[20:07] <tgm4883> superm1, you are no fun
[20:07] <tgm4883> english only. You british or something
[20:25] <Shadow__X> hey guys has anyone experience much faster samba speeds in windows compared to linux?
[20:26] <Shadow__X> i notice a 30MB/sec difference on the same box between ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7
[20:27] <lukeer> Hi experts, I am trying to get my MythBuntu 10.04 box to shut down on idle and reboot a few minutes before the next scheduled recording starts. I tried setting the date and time in BIOS directly. That works well but is a real pain to do since it requires two additional reboots per shutdown.
[20:29] <lukeer> So I try to edit /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm, which seems to be read-only. I tried to simply edit it with vi, but saving simply causes an error message.
[20:30] <lukeer> Even after setting permissions for that very file to 777.
[20:30] <Shadow__X> lukeer: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Power_saving#Automatic_powerdown.2Fwakeup
[20:30] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Power saving - MythTV
[20:30] <Shadow__X> to edit that file you have to use either root or use sudo
[20:32] <lukeer> Since becoming root seems to be evil in ubuntu, I tried it by sudo vi, sudo echo, sudo bash, no luck.
[20:33] <superm1> lukeer, you won't be able to modify files in /sys with an editor
[20:34] <superm1> you'll need to do something like this: "echo 1" | sudo tee /sys/class/rts/rts0/wakealarm
[20:34] <superm1> or use sysctl
[20:37] <lukeer> superm1: Ahaaa, I thought it must have been something like that. Is /sys similar to /proc in that it is not _really_ on my harddisk?
[20:37] <superm1> yup
[20:38] <lukeer> Thank you very much, I will then continue trying the "echo" approach.
[21:49] <theteju> hello guys
[21:49] <theteju> I am complete new to mythbuntu
[21:49] <theteju> downloading 10.04 since i guess its LTS,,
[21:49] <theteju> any suggestions
[22:12] <kcorcoran_> any mythbuntu resources present?
[22:13] <kcorcoran_> just installed, not really sure of the next step.
[22:20] <rhpot1991> !ask
[22:20] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[22:21] <kcorcoran_> Zinn:  i gather that from the topic info.  thank you.  my initial question was intended for a different channel.
[22:21] <Zinn> Hi kcorcoran_, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[22:21] <kcorcoran_> !help
[22:21] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[22:22] <kcorcoran_> !help cannot login to database
[22:22] <Zinn> !help cannot login to database For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[22:24] <rhpot1991> kcorcoran_: how can't you login to the db?
[22:26] <kcorcoran_> rhpot1991:  hi.  i assume that is my initial error.  i have installed mythbuntu; trying to setup my backend.  when it goes through the wizard i get to the page to input my info (for the db)...its all default...and a terminal window flashes stating i am not connecting to the DB
[22:27] <kcorcoran_> rhpot1991:  please realize i am very new to mybuntu (and ubuntu) and it is more than likely something simple i am missing. i have been reviewing the site to find something to walk me through the process...nothing thus far.
[22:28] <rhpot1991> check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and verify that db info is correct
[22:28] <rhpot1991> I think we have an old install manual somewhere
[22:28] <rhpot1991> mrand: ^
[22:30] <kcorcoran_> hmm, no, i was attempting to use my user name, the txt document shows DBUserName=mythtv.  should i being using that name or my user name?  i thought i had created a user name; perhaps that was just to access myth tv?
[22:30] <rhpot1991> its mythtv
[22:32] <kcorcoran_> i will try that.  am i perform this correctly?  i have installed mythbuntu on my workstation.  i have been attempting to make it a backend server (with ubuntu desktop).  once i get that working i should be able to use my laptop as the front end?  is that a correct understanding?
[22:33] <rhpot1991> kcorcoran_: yep
[22:34] <rhpot1991> kcorcoran_: for your first time it may be easier to get the frontend running on the same box as the backend, then add the other frontend later
[22:34] <kcorcoran_> okay, can you walk me thru that process?  at this point should i attempt to run Systems>Administration>Myth TV Backend?
[22:38] <kcorcoran_> actually, that time it started...saw a new screen with all types of configuration settings, input, tuner cards, etc.
[22:41] <rhpot1991> kcorcoran_: you are in mythtv-setup now which is good
[22:41] <rhpot1991> you need to fill out all the steps in here to set everything up
[22:42] <rhpot1991> kcorcoran_: this may be helpful: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Index
[22:42] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] User Manual:Index - MythTV
[22:44] <kcorcoran_> okay.  back in a moment...going to actually connect the cable source.  appreciate the assistance so far! :)
[23:06] <kcorcoran_> rhpot1991: trying to setup the backend now, however the display is too large and i am struggling to click next.
[23:26] <kcorcoran_> rhpot1991: not finding any channels; any ideas?


[12:09] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, blackflow said: !root is <reply> By default on Ubuntu the root password is not set, and the root account is not supposed to be logged into directly. Instead, use `sudo` to temporarily escalate your privilege. For more info, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo .
[12:59] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !#ubuntu+1 is Eoan Eanimal is the codename for Ubuntu 19.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !eoan is Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Eanimal) is the 31th release of Ubuntu, support only in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, lotuspsychje said: !eanimal is Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Eanimal) is the 31th release of Ubuntu, support only in #ubuntu+1
[14:10] <Pici> eoan
[14:10] <Pici> thats a dumb name
[14:12] <Pici> thats not even the name... only Eoan has been announced so far
[20:09] <dax> Pici: yeah, i already mentioned I was planning on waiting until they figured out an animal name *shrug*
[20:09] <dax> (just added Eoan to +1 because i was in the /topic anyway)
[20:09] <dax> !root
[20:09]  * dax chuckles and leaves it alone
[20:22] <Eickmeyer> dax: I agree. <3 the Matrix reference.