[09:46] <archboxman> perfection: yes
[09:47] <perfection> okay thanks, was wondering if i got to change to anotherprogram or what
[09:47] <filgy> perfection: i don't think the version of transmission that comes with karmic supports it however
[09:47] <archboxman> perfection:  magnetic links are those without spy's need to make sure there is a feeder for the file you download
[09:47] <filgy> i could be wrong though
[09:48] <cjs> archboxman: I have backups out the wazoo. Most of my important data is actually in git or svn repos, anyway.
[09:48] <perfection> filgy: there is no support for magnetic with the 1 that comes with karmic
[09:48] <archboxman> cjs: great idea for so much flexible installs you run...
[09:48] <xxthink> rww: is there some method to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.04
[09:48] <filgy> perfection: that's what i thought.. newer versions do whoever
[09:49] <archboxman> look at this cjs http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&index=blended&field-keywords=Thermaltake%20BlacX&tag=smtfx1-20
[09:49] <egap> hi. Just trying
[09:49] <archboxman> egap: your here
[09:51] <archboxman> SolarisBoy: you around or head to bed
[09:52] <Fill23> what would you recomend for .mkv playback?
[09:52] <enkidu> Fill23: smplayer
[09:52] <enkidu> vlc
[09:52] <enkidu> xine
[09:52] <perfection> guys another thing is how do i get engines that are used in themes? the likes of murrina, etc. i cant rememba them now
[09:53] <perfection> Fill23: vlc
[09:53] <ouyes> hi all
[09:53] <Fill23> thx
[09:53] <archboxman> note to users if you plan on using cutting edge software or developemental pls seek backups....
[09:54] <xxthink> rww: is there some method to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.04
[09:54] <Cappy> evening folks!
[09:55] <xbmc> 23 Feb 07:54:59 ntpdate[1835]: no servers can be used, exiting
[09:55] <xbmc> xbmc@000c762097c3:~$
[09:55] <xbmc> what does that mean no servers can be used
[09:56] <usuario> HOLA
[09:56] <archboxman> xxthink: thats interesting ... is that to go hand in hand with ati graphics cards??
[09:56] <dad_> bump
[09:57] <xxthink> archboxman: ati graphics cards?
[09:57] <xxthink> archboxman: sorry
[09:57] <xxthink> archboxman: what's the meaing?
[09:57] <xxthink> archboxman: what's the meaning?
[09:58] <usuario> hola pardillos
[09:58] <Guest60693> hey
[09:58] <Guest60693> need some help with ntpdate
[09:58] <archboxman> xxthink: oprofile yes, ati graphics has problems with running games with shading issues at times and overloads cpu processes... so is oprofile a solution to ati graphics card???
[09:58] <Guest60693> dad@mythserver:~$ ntpdate
[09:58] <Guest60693> 22 Feb 20:37:53 ntpdate[17547]: no servers can be used, exiting
[09:59] <oSiRiDe`r0x1> ciao
[09:59] <Guest60693> I have servers selcted sowhy it say no severs can be used
[09:59] <oSiRiDe`r0x1> !list
[09:59] <Klapo> sup
[09:59] <xxthink> archboxman: I want to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.04
[10:00] <archboxman> xxthink: understand ,but its a suse option and suse in the lead for graphics card support over ati...
[10:00] <rob_p> Guest60693: You need to specify the server you want ntpdate to use.  Ex: ntpdate time.ntp.org
[10:00] <soreau> archboxman: ask in #radeon
[10:00] <Klapo> someone can tell me,how can I add backslashe's to.. eg "[name][123]" expect output \[name\]\[123\] in bash?
[10:00] <cjs> archboxman: I even keep my Gnome configuration under revision control, though that appears to be a losing game. (It's as if the bastards designed it not to work with revision control.)
[10:01] <bullgard> Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords show 2 lines: "Passwords:default" and "Passwords:login". What is the function or purpose of these 2 lines?
[10:02] <archboxman> soreau: no need just a small question to enlighten that cjs maybe playing around with a new idea to limit the ATI graphics card to a normal process instead of overloading cpu...
[10:02] <indus> bullgard, diff passwords for diff things
[10:02] <naoshige> # apt-get reinstall libxml2
[10:02] <naoshige> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[10:02] <naoshige> what's up with that?
[10:02] <indus> bullgard,can have a diff one for network too
[10:02] <naoshige> i'm trying to "gem install nokogiri" but it can't find libxml2 even tho libxml2 is installed..
[10:02] <indus> naoshige, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxml2
[10:02] <soreau> archboxman: well I guess there is no need for an answer, either
[10:02] <naoshige> checking for libxml/parser.h in /opt/local/include/,/opt/local/include/libxml2,/opt/local/include,/opt/local/include,/opt/local/include/libxml2,/usr/local/include,/usr/local/include/libxml2,/usr/include,/usr/include/libxml2,/usr/include,/usr/include/libxml2... no
[10:02] <bullgard> indus: Can you be more specific and more precise.
[10:02] <naoshige> libxml2 is missing.
[10:02] <naoshige> thanks indus
[10:03] <naoshige> indus: but you gotta agree, apt-get reinstall libxml2 would be a LOT more convenient right?
[10:03] <indus> naoshige, yes
[10:03] <naoshige> that's like saying yes --YES I REALLY MEAN IT i really want to have sex with you girl
[10:03] <naoshige> or something to that effect
[10:03] <archboxman> soreau: there always is because if it is a success in suse you could see it be gathered in by ubuntu on the next kernel update such as the ati driver support
[10:03] <bullgard> indus: I do not understand your English in the message: "[11:02]	<indus>	bullgard,can have a diff one for network too". Can you say it in other words, please.
[10:03] <indus> naoshige, that topic or language is not allowed here
[10:04] <Myrtti> naoshige: try installing the -dev package too
[10:04] <soreau> naoshige: You probably need to install the -dev package. See apt-cache search libxml|grep dev
[10:04] <soreau> archboxman: ask in #radeon
[10:04] <indus> bullgard, hi, for example when you connect to network manager, it asks for a password, this can be different from system passowrd
[10:04] <archboxman> soreau: may do that good idea
[10:04] <Guest60693> dad@mythserver:~$ ntpdate
[10:04] <Guest60693> 22 Feb 20:37:53 ntpdate[17547]: no servers can be used, exiting
[10:05] <rob_p> Guest60693: The ntpdate command is a one-shot deal.  It doesn't use your ntp.conf file. Only your ntpd does.  Therefore, you need to specify the server with which you want to sync., in the command.
[10:05] <Guest60693> I have servers selcted sowhy it say no severs can be used
[10:05] <AcEg33k> hello everyone
[10:05] <naoshige> Myrtti, soreau, thanks a lot guys
[10:05] <indus> bullgard, so some day you forget what the password was for that, you just delete it from that window, and it takes system passowrd
[10:05] <Guest60693> how can i check ntp is working correctly
[10:06] <Guest60693> beacuse on my client mythbuntu install time is wrong
[10:06] <Guest60693> which means mythtv no worky
[10:06] <rob_p> Guest60693: What do you want to check, ntp or ntpdate?  If ntpdate, the following will suffice: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[10:06] <Guest60693> my server has ntp installed
[10:06] <Guest60693> and time is correct
[10:07] <Guest60693> I created a diskless image using ubuntu wiki but time on client is wrong
[10:08] <rob_p> Guest60693: To check ntp, you need to configure the config file (ntp.conf) and then start the ntp service.  Finally, check your logs for feedback.
[10:08] <Guest60693> its giving ntp time not local time even though timezone is correct
[10:08] <AcEg33k> i installed ubuntu for the first time, need help in configuring sound
[10:08] <PFA> so if you press Print Scrn when Google search suggestions are up, the search suggestions in the dropdown disappear. this is a problem since i want to screencap a search suggestion. is there any other way?
[10:08] <Diverdude> what ftp client do you recommend for ubuntu?
[10:08] <rww> Diverdude: Places > Connect to Server works fine for me.
[10:08] <erUSUL> Diverdude: Places>Connect to Server?
[10:09] <naoshige> Myrtti, soreau, indus
[10:09] <naoshige> you guys wanna check out this track my friend did before he died?
[10:09] <naoshige> really amazing stuff - http://www.zshare.net/download/552763591f4802ce/
[10:09] <PFA> naoshige: this is a support channel. take to to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <naoshige> thought id share since you guys helped me out that's all
[10:09] <naoshige> i really appreciate it
[10:09] <naoshige> sure
[10:10] <xfact> Hello, I already had Ubuntu installed, and now after installing Windows I cannot see the gurb menu to choose which OS I should run... How to fix the gurb? please help!
[10:10] <erUSUL> xfact: karmic 9.10 ?
[10:10] <xfact> erUSUL, yes
[10:11] <erUSUL> !grub2 | xfact
[10:11] <Gadget3000> xfact: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[10:11] <erUSUL> xfact: the wiki page has a section to recover grub after installing windows
[10:11] <xfact> erUSUL, and Gadget3000: Thank you!
[10:12] <indus> xfact, hi
[10:12] <indus> xfact, do you have the live cd
[10:13] <xfact> indus, May I know, why you asking for my Live ID?
[10:13] <indus> xfact, to restore grub
[10:13] <AcEg33k> need help inn configuring sound..
[10:13] <indus> or rather, to help
[10:13] <xfact> erUSUL, Hey, do oyou thin kthis is the appropriate page for my problem? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:13] <xfact> indus: yes I have one
[10:13] <erUSUL> xfact: that's for grub1 iirc karmic uses grub2
[10:14] <indus> xfact, so boot with it, then open a terminal and type sudo grub-install /dev/devicename
[10:14] <bauer> howto get ubuntu-server installed via apt-get ?
[10:14] <xfact> indus: sorry ' May I know, why you asking for my Live ID?' if it sounds rude
[10:14] <indus> i want to eat the cd and run away
[10:14] <xfact> indus, Then?
[10:15] <indus> xfact, sudo grub-install /dev/sda where sda is first hard disk, then reboot
[10:15] <indus> xfact, in case that dont work, come back here and ill help
[10:15] <xfact> indus, ok thank you :)
[10:16] <indus> xfact, dont worry, i wont steal your live cd
[10:16] <indus> :D
[10:17] <xfact> indus, ha ha, You can't cause it's (a)live!
[10:19] <indus> xfact, so did you boot wiht live cd or not
[10:20] <deena> Hi
[10:20] <xfact> indus: well, I am writing everything on a page, so I will not make mistake *need some minutes*
[10:20] <deena> i am trying to install savege 2 game in my desktop
[10:21] <indus> xfact, ok how many hard disk you have
[10:21] <deena> it says like "./Savage2Install-2.1.0-x86_64.bin: 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[10:21] <deena> "
[10:21] <deena> please anyone help me out on this
[10:21] <indus> deena, yeah installer is bad  i believe
[10:21] <xfact> indus: 80GB SATA II
[10:21] <archboxman> OProfile is a management tool for profiles not ati graphics or cpu processes
[10:21] <indus> xfact, ok sudo grub-install /dev/sda , and later sudo update-grub
[10:22] <perfection> indus: what if he partitioned?
[10:22] <xfact> indus: can you just pm me with all the instructions, so it will be easy to write step by step... (if you can't it's ok)
[10:22] <indus> deena, downloaded from site? for 64 bit hmm
[10:22] <indus> perfection, grub installs to mbr of device not partition
[10:22] <deena> yes i downloaded from site for 64 bit only
[10:22] <indus> perfection, unless you want to
[10:22] <quietone> where do I set which program a file type will open with? I installed oo 3.2 and .odt now open with the file-roller.
[10:23] <indus> quietone, right click file and properties >open with
[10:23] <perfection> indus: okay, i got u
[10:23] <indus> perfection, you can also do sudo grub-install /dev/sda2 etc but i never did it
[10:23] <Guest53208> what to install to upgrade to ubuntu-server ?
[10:23] <indus> deena, try with the 32 bit maybe
[10:23] <quietone> indus: did that (several times) and it only works once
[10:24] <indus> if i see that error, i never could find out why
[10:24] <archboxman> OProfile - doesn't give me the idea of great control over profiles instead seems to be answer for novell server ideas not a linux idea...
[10:24] <indus> quietone, then dont know
[10:25] <alankila> <3 oprofile
[10:25] <indus> deena, make the file executable
[10:25] <archboxman> OProfile - goes back to a novell server idea of dropping profiles and gathering data...
[10:25] <indus> deena, here look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1211528
[10:25] <alankila> easy-to-use sampling profiler that can even dig up the source code and disassembly of the programs you profiled. What's not to like.
[10:26] <ZykoticK9> deena, I was able to successfully install Savage2 - 64bit yesterday -- don't know why you're getting that error, sorry
[10:27] <archboxman> alankila: its still a novell idea to drop profiles and fix cpu operations in linux server.... not a native idea to linux... its an addon
[10:27] <perfection> ZykoticK9: maybe 'cause he's installing on 32bit system
[10:27] <paradoxuncreated> Ok, I have got aplay streaming sound to jack, and listening with aplay through my FFADO device now. However firefox/flash still outputs to the interal soundcard, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:28] <acron17> hi there! when i login into gnome i cannot focus any window after the very 1st mouse click, also i cannot switch between the windows using Alt-Tab
[10:28]  * alankila has no idea what this talk about "native idea to linux" is.
[10:29] <acron17> i'm using ubuntu (9.10) and have described this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8804362
[10:29] <Guest53208> /mesg help
[10:29] <alankila> oprofile is one of the better linux technologies. I couldn't believe it existed, was easy to use, and worked -- as far as I could tell -- perfectly.
[10:29] <archboxman> alankila: yes I do... written code can be changed understood...
[10:30] <quietone> indus: fyi. made change by right click fn.odt -> properties -> 'open with' tab.  this worked for all .odt. good night.
[10:31] <indus> quietone, ok
[10:31] <perfection> indus: does ubuntu support hyperthreading technology as the one in the intel i5 cpu?
[10:32] <indus> perfection, hmm what is that in i 5
[10:33] <ZykoticK9> deena, are you trying to use "sh Savage2Install-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.bin"? as i get the same error if i try that!  "chmod +x Savage2Install-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.bin" then just use "./Savage2Install-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.bin"
[10:33] <perfection> indus: i mean the new intel cpus, they say they have hyperthreading features, etc. and i want to buy a laptop with one, so i was wondering if i cud take adventage of that technology with ubuntu
[10:34] <indus> perfection, i hear its being worked on, not sure if it even works properly with windows 7 yet
[10:34] <deena> i tried that also
[10:34] <indus> deena, can you tell me the output of uname -a
[10:35] <archboxman> alankila: you think a programmer that makes 80,000+ year has time to play with profile or adminstrator over 2000 users is going to figure out current bugs no... we delete profile and give a new profile with same use....not debug a profile .... oprofile intrudoces the same problem novell had for years..
[10:35] <perfection> indus: oh, maybe i shud wait and hope the next kernel release supports that
[10:35] <deena> Linux desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:35] <ZykoticK9> deena, you have 32bit not 64bit!!!
[10:35] <indus> perfection, let me google it, but hyperthreading is supported for some time in linux, but the new i 5 etc have some new tricks so
[10:35] <indus> ZykoticK9, !!!!!!!
[10:36] <indus> deena, so sweetheart, download the 32 bit installer :)
[10:36] <deena> but mine is AMD phenon processor
[10:36] <deena> AMD is an 64 bit only am i right
[10:36] <indus> deena, its not the processor, its the version of ubuntu you installed
[10:36] <ZykoticK9> deena, but you must have installed the 32bit version of Ubuntu
[10:36] <alankila> archboxman: I wonder if you even know what a profiler is.
[10:36] <archboxman> alankila: the only reason we hang on to profiles is to notify novell of current problem in a profile for bug fixes...
[10:37] <indus> deena, well, you can install either a 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu on it, it supports both , its not only 64 bit
[10:37] <perfection> indus: okay thanx
[10:37] <bullgard> indus: I am sorry. I read your messages.  But I still do not know:  "What is the function or purpose of these 2 different lines?"
[10:38] <indus> bullgard, sorry, i cant explain better
[10:38] <archboxman> alankila: careless to debug your preferences to a program no time ... for what a bunch of hidden files that reference software stored in usr/share profiles... no
[10:39] <bullgard> indus: Thank you.
[10:39] <indus> bullgard, also, it saves your gpg and ssh keys there
[10:39] <deena> ok let me try
[10:39] <indus> bullgard, try changing your password for system
[10:39] <baz> hi guys, I have somehow broken NFS and get 0 google hits for the error message.
[10:39] <baz> start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd: Exec format error (Exec format error)
[10:40] <baz> which is nice
[10:40] <indus> bullgard, but frankly even iam not sure how it works
[10:40] <Slart> baz: tried reinstalling the nfs server ?
[10:40] <archboxman> alankila: have you ever seen what a mouse driver in a novell profile can cause if it causes problems it not fun.... reinstall a mouse driver everytime they hit the same snag... no
[10:40] <alankila> archboxman: so that's a no. You don't know what oprofile actually does.
[10:40] <indus> bullgard, once i found that my network and system password were different, so i deleted the entry for network from passwords and encryptions
[10:40] <indus> and saved
[10:40] <baz> Slart: The error occurs when I try to start/restart the service, yeah
[10:41] <indus> perfection, i think it works fine with newest kernel
[10:41]  * Slart wonders if archboxman and alankila is even talking about the same thing..
[10:41] <indus> perfection, wait ill give you a nice link
[10:41] <indus> perfection, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/429036
[10:43] <perfection> indus: that's good news though i heard in lucid they may not use the latest kernel, i think we'll have to upgrade
[10:43] <archboxman> Slart: same thing this person doesn't see the overall idea novell will press in .... I see it becuase the introducing the same ideas period...
[10:43] <indus> perfection, i think its fixed already
[10:43] <indus> perfection, does it say only for lucid?
[10:44] <indus> perfection, i think it will make its way into karmic probably
[10:44] <Slart> baz: can you pastebin the output of "file /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd" ?
[10:44] <Slart> !pastebin | baz
[10:44] <perfection> indus: am sure it will but i prefer the latest so i'll upgrade to lucid
[10:45] <archboxman> Slart: whats next we going to see a private network protocol for devices that novell wouldn't let go of long ago with the bindings....???
[10:45] <baz> Slart: Interesting. It's 0 bytes :|
[10:45] <alankila> Slart: we're not. I thought his oprofile was about the debian package oprofile, the cpu usage measuring device which I think is the best thing ever. And he's talking about user profiles.
[10:45] <perfection> indus: and i read on some blog they were saying lucid may not use the latest kernel, maybe they'll backport some module or whatever
[10:45] <necat_> hello
[10:46] <perfection> indus: about processors that support 64bit, when you use 32bit version of OS are you under-utilizing the processor?
[10:46] <necat_> Heyy hiç türk var ı burda
[10:46] <Slart> archboxman: I'm not claiming to know much about this.. but googling for Oprofile seems to suggest it's a profiling tools.. ie measuring performance for a process/system.. function calls..etc..
[10:46] <Slart> baz: seems you've found the problem =)
[10:47] <baz> Slart: Seems I have - sorry, when you said "reinstalled" earlier I read it as "restarted"
[10:47] <archboxman> Slart: preformance where is the question ... I can measure preformance without this tool... said to say...
[10:47] <Slart> baz: ah.. try the --reinstall switch with apt-get.. or synaptic
[10:47] <baz> Slart: removed/re-installed package, seems to work now. No idea how that happened, this is on a RAID volume so that's a worry
[10:47] <Slart> baz: and they say computers are predicatble =)
[10:48] <marteo> hei
[10:48] <marteo> Hi
[10:48] <archboxman> Slart: right from there page Excellent introduction to profiling.
[10:49] <Slart> archboxman: well.. as I said.. I'm in no position to discuss this.. I just got the impression you were talking about something else.. probably my bad
[10:49] <Jordan_U> acron17, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs
[10:50] <Jordan_U> acron17, Sorry, wrong nick
[10:50] <acron17> Jordan_U, noprob
[10:50] <perfection> got to go, peace out y'all
[10:52] <acron17> i've a serious problem: when i login into gnome i cannot focus any window after the very 1st mouse click, also i cannot switch between the windows using Alt-Tab
[10:53] <archboxman> Slart: here is there idea http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20091208-903735.html
[10:53] <Stargaze> in a server context, what does HVM stand for? and PV guest?
[10:53] <acron17> anyone interested in giving my hand on this one? (there are some more informations here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8803929)
[10:54] <bjarni> Hi.  Can someone look at this from auth.log: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5627e51b, The 3 lines dated Feb 22 08:21:45-46 are bothering me.  They don't come when restarted so maybe it's some automatic update or something.  How can I track where this is coming from?  The user "anuser" is not logged on - I am (bjarni) - but anuser is the first user to be installed on this system.
[10:55] <archboxman> Slart: here is how novell entered this same bottleneck feature in windows camp :( http://support.novell.com/techcenter/articles/ana19960304.html
[10:56] <Nighthawk82> <--- New. hey guys how do i find out what workgrp i'm in under ubuntu
[10:56] <Slart> archboxman: where does "Intelligent Workload Management" come into this?
[10:57] <coz_> Nighthawk82,  if no one here can answer at the moment you may want to try ##Linux channel
[10:57] <naoshige> hi
[10:57] <e-DIO-t> hi there!
[10:57] <naoshige> anybody running facebook apps off ubuntu servers?
[10:57] <candyban> Is there a package somewhere for libstdc++5 in karmic?
[10:57] <ZykoticK9> Nighthawk82, in a terminal "cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep workgroup"
[10:58] <candyban> Or will I need to take it from jaunty?
[10:58] <AcEg33k> hello
[10:58] <lele__> good morning
[10:58] <ZykoticK9> candyban, it's been removed from Karmic
[10:58] <AcEg33k> i am unable to get my sound device working
[10:58] <archboxman> Slart: they introduced this in long ago and said the novell server could run window profiles from the novell server with management tools and impliment changes based on there server tree and the there package costed a lot more like 5,000 dallors for there system relief packages in windows profiles...
[10:58] <Gheddy_Zarc> where can i get this file ? python-sqlite_1.0.1-7ubuntu1_all.deb I can find  version python-sqlite_1.0.1-4ubuntu1_all.deb but I need 7,,
[10:58] <coz_> candyban,  probably from the jaunty list of packages
[10:59] <candyban> ZykoticK9, I noticed :p ... but I need it ... so unpacking it from jaunty then?
[10:59] <Nighthawk82> ZykoticK9:  does that change it or what does it do?
[10:59] <candyban> coz_, k
[10:59] <ZykoticK9> candyban, that's what I have done
[10:59] <ZykoticK9> Nighthawk82, all that command does is display what workgroup your in
[10:59] <indus> candyban, isnt that a bad idea? installing older libstdc++
[10:59] <Slart> archboxman: "window profiles"? as in .. cpu performance measurements? or user profiles as in user files settings and such?
[11:00] <coz_> candyban,  which application requires this version?
[11:00] <candyban> indus, not if your application depends on it :)
[11:00] <Nighthawk82> ok thanks ZykoticK9
[11:00] <ZykoticK9> Nighthawk82, anything in /etc "should" be owned by root and without sudo a normal user shouldn't be able to modify anything
[11:00] <Nighthawk82> cool thanks for the heads up
[11:00] <candyban> coz_, x-lite-3
[11:00] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9, For future reference grep takes filenames as arguments, so: "grep workgroup /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[11:00] <coz_> candyban,  did you check if there is a developer version that may use the current library?
[11:01] <candyban> coz_, there is a beta, but only for windows/mac
[11:01] <bjarni> In addition to the comment above, I need to add that the pasted log is from the start of log this morning.  Seems to be something started 5 minutes after boot in the morning...
[11:01] <candyban> coz_, so yes (I checked) ... and no (it's not available)
[11:01] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, that is much cleaner -- i'm affraid i have fallen into a bad habit with grep - i ALWAYS pipe to it ;)  Thanks for the heads-up though.
[11:01] <OerHeks> candyban the easy way is to download it from here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/libstdc++5
[11:01] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9, np
[11:02] <coz_> candyban,  there seems to be an x-lite-beta 4  let me see if I can find a download for that
[11:02] <alankila> ZykoticK9: it's called "useless use of cat award"
[11:02] <alankila> you just received one, congratulations.
[11:03] <Q_Continuum> Ugh, just realized the answer to my issue.  I forgot FF 3.6 is a 'new version' so we won't see it for 2 months :-/
[11:03] <ZykoticK9> alankila, well i am Gold Medallist is "useless catting" then ;)
[11:03]  * Q_Continuum sighs
[11:03] <ZykoticK9> Q_Continuum, you won't see it in Karmic probably ever -- add the PPA (FYI it's default in Lucid)
[11:03] <archboxman> Slart: it ties into one there idea is to manage the server which inturn manages profiles to each invidual profile eating processorer time... which leads back to a front end novell server or example ... played with this idea at a hospital and a novel server believe version 5 ... yes this idea has great promise just not ideal for a it platform that can figure out the load based upon start time of profiles ... I don't need a program
[11:04] <Q_Continuum> ZykoticK9, hence the '2 months' with Lucid :-P
[11:04] <rww> Q_Continuum: Ubuntu's Mozilla team has a "firefox-stable" PPA that apparently has it. You'd do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable"
[11:04] <coz_> candyban, no luck here
[11:05] <ZykoticK9> Q_Continuum, 66 days infact ;)  (sorry didn't get your 2 months reference)
[11:05] <Q_Continuum> I forget about that 'feature' sometimes.
[11:05] <zvacet> 	Q_Continuum : if you want latest FF check http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page
[11:05] <archboxman> Slart: if its a free tool great... if it is an idea to purchase a novell server no.... I don't like idea ... same approach the used in the hospital industry to keep novell at the front end of servers...
[11:05] <Q_Continuum> rww, I'm looking into that now yeah
[11:06] <naoshige> if im having server problems
[11:07] <naoshige> i.e. no response or whatever
[11:07] <naoshige> what log file is wisest to check up on?
[11:07] <archboxman> naoshige: what server problem
[11:07] <e-DIO-t> naoshige: what do you mean with "no response" and from which server?
[11:07] <e-DIO-t> btw, usual log location is /var/log/appservername, isn't it?
[11:08] <Slart> archboxman: sorry... I don't seem to be able to get my head around this... but thanks for the explanations anyway
[11:09] <naoshige> well
[11:09] <naoshige> im trying to set up this facebook app
[11:09] <archboxman> Slart: its not a big idea they tried to keep the hospital industry only using novell servers with there novell binding years ago until they allowed tcp/ip and everyone let novell server as quick as they could get the data off  the server
[11:10] <OerHeks> candyban if you run 32 bit ubuntu > sudo dpkg -i libstdc++5_3.3.6-17ubuntu1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg-deb -x libstdc++5_3.3.6-17ubuntu1_i386.deb ./tmp && sudo cp ./tmp/usr/lib/* /usr/lib32/
[11:10] <archboxman> Slart: we had one novell server with 10 as400
[11:12] <candyban> OerHeks, why would I first want to install it and then manually extract it and copy the thing?
[11:13] <candyban> OerHeks, ps. I usually use ar and tar to extract stuff from packages :)
[11:13] <mysterioux> #join
[11:13] <OerHeks> candyban, husain explains it in > http://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/how-to-fix-libstdc5-dependency-problem-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[11:13] <mysterioux> could someone tell me exactly were ubunut installs its files into?
[11:14] <Slart> mysterioux: you can check the package in synaptic.. right click and select properties
[11:14] <mysterioux> i would like to install the following apache2,php,mysql for development but would like to know where its stores the files from the command line?
[11:14] <Slart> mysterioux: it installs files to several places
[11:14] <mysterioux> Slart:tanks
[11:14] <xfact> indus, Thanks it helped!
[11:14] <mysterioux> ok, explain furthr pls
[11:14] <alankila> mysterioux: you can answer the question two says: study FHS, and use dpkg -L <packagename> to view list of files of that package.
[11:14] <candyban> OerHeks, I already have it "installed" ... but it's not working properly ... for some reason it can't properly use the dsp device (even though it should go to pulse) ... I'm going to try my luck with linphone
[11:15] <mysterioux> ok alankila: thanks
[11:15] <alankila> mysterioux: the FHS explains why a particular file is in, say, /usr/bin (it's determined by its role/function), and dpkg -L answers the particulars of any package you want to know about.
[11:15] <Slart> mysterioux: well.. documentation goes to one place (/usr/share somewhere).. libraries to (/usr/lib/) binaries or links to them to (/usr/bin is one example)..
[11:15] <Slart> mysterioux: so there are files spread all over the place
[11:15] <ZykoticK9> candyban, if you're getting a dsp error you can try using "padsp $program" and see if that corrects it
[11:15] <Slart> !fhs
[11:16] <mysterioux> are there ways to control its location?
[11:16] <alankila> mysterioux: no, the packages will generally install were they will.
[11:17] <Slart> mysterioux: one of the advantages of using a "distro" is that it's tested with the packages.. so it's usually best to let the files go where they are intended to..
[11:17] <Slart> mysterioux: but, sure, you can move things around.. expect stuff to break though
[11:18] <i3inary> hi, i need some help restoring a tar backup from a laptop to a newly created virtual machine.
[11:19] <mysterioux> furthermore, what is the time frame for upgrading ubunut online...cos i'm have a hard time upgrading?
[11:19] <mysterioux> to the new version
[11:19] <Slart> what version are you using now?
[11:20] <Slart> mysterioux: your machine will never just stop working because the OS is out of date.. updates will stop coming though and eventually the repositories will be moved so you will be unable to install new software unless you select new repositories to use
[11:20] <candyban> ZykoticK9, I'll first try linphone (if that doesn't work, I'll try your approach)
[11:21] <mysterioux> 9.04
[11:21] <i3inary> let me rephrase that i need some help restoring a tar backup from a laptop to a new hardware configuration.  i am trying to duplicate the environment that was configured on the laptop programs and all.
[11:21] <Slart> !9.04
[11:21] <alankila> i3inary: you made a complete image of the filesystem with tar?
[11:21] <i3inary> alankila, let me get the command i used for you
[11:22] <indus> xfact, :) good
[11:23] <Slart> mysterioux: here's the timeline for the releases.. 9.04 is supported until end of 2010.. so you've got some time left http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle
[11:24] <i3inary> alankila, here is the script http://pastebin.ca/1805619
[11:24] <Slart> mysterioux: here's the same thing but with text instead of graphs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:26] <alankila> i3inary: ok. Well, seems straightforward enough. You boot some suitable live cd like knoppix against an empty harddisk image, make filesystem on it, decompress that backup, make any missing directories like /mnt, /sys, /proc, chroot into it, then run some command like grub-install or grub-setup against the harddisk image in order to get a bootloader on it.
[11:26] <alankila> you may have to mount /proc and /sys manually though, and your /dev probably contains some rubbish from udev, but maybe that's not harmful. I'm not sure if /dev is completely empty these days normally, the script isn't handling /dev correctly anyway.
[11:27] <alankila> oh, I see the script also contains a restore method. Well, that's a nice reference for the commands to execute.
[11:28] <i3inary> alankila, so installing ubuntu on the new system then restoring files will not work properly even if i create the same user?
[11:28] <mysterioux> thanks Slart
[11:29] <mysterioux> furthermore, how do I install wine on ubuntu from the command line or from the Synatic Package?
[11:29] <mysterioux> and how?
[11:29] <alankila> i3inary: well, chances are that method also will work quite well. I just suggested a method that builds the linux from 0 existing install.
[11:29] <indus> mysterioux, sudo apt-get install wine
[11:29] <Slart> !wine | mysterioux
[11:29] <erUSUL> !software | mysterioux
[11:30] <indus> mysterioux, or main menu > system >administration > synaptic package manager
[11:30] <alankila> i3inary: it's just that the linux will be running while the backup is decompressing, and that's not 100% healthy. But it might just work well enough.
[11:30] <indus> mysterioux, or main menu > ubuntu software center \
[11:31] <i3inary> alankila, what if i boot into knoppix to decompress the files?
[11:31] <alankila> i3inary: then you can probably skip the bootloader installing step, but it's otherwise mostly the same.
[11:32] <alankila> i3inary: I don't like the fact that this script packed /dev into it. That should not be backuped nor restored. But it's probably harmless.
[11:32] <AdvoWork> hmm,im doing /usr/bin/mail.... and its giving: mail: /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory   any ideas plesae?
[11:32] <e-DIO-t> pardon: except "disconnecting one of the disks", how could I check if grup is properly installed on each of a 2disk raid mirror?
[11:33] <RRRRrrrraph> Hi all
[11:34] <i3inary> alankila, i will exclude it from the restore then.  is that all i should worry about?  will it boot up and be just as i left it before backing it up or is it going to require all kinds of configurations?
[11:34] <alankila> i3inary: well, I believe it will resume just like you left it.
[11:35] <alankila> i3inary: the state of a linux system is in its files, and the only invisible part is the bootloader stuff in boot sector and whatever embedded sectors it mentions and so on
[11:35] <i3inary> alankila, alright thats what i want to hear.  thank you so much for your time and information!
[11:35] <alankila> the only danger as I see is with having an old install underneath which contains files that weren't part of the restore image, you'll have some sort of ugly superposition of things then.
[11:36] <ace721> Does anyone know how to setup a VPN? I followed all instructions and searched the web extensively and still can't get it to work. I'm running Karmic 32 bit
[11:36] <alankila> i3inary: hence my suggestion that since you backuped the whole system, restore to empty disk.
[11:37] <i3inary> alankila, i just dont understand how the installation will boot without drivers that i figured were installed and configured during the ubuntu installation
[11:37] <Gamrok> how can i resett apt
[11:37] <i3inary> alankila, because im restoring to new hardware....is it nothing like windows in that respect?
[11:37] <alankila> i3inary: all that stuff is in the files you backed up. So when you boot some livecd image and restore the backup you restore those files too. All that you will not restore is the bootloader, as I already explained.
[11:38] <tu> tu putaaa madreee
[11:38] <Gamrok> i get the following error guys
[11:38] <Gamrok> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[11:38] <Gamrok> what should i do
[11:38] <alankila> i3inary: oh, yeah, linux system is pretty generic in that almost all hardware support linux has generally is already included. There are some exceptions to this rule, though.
[11:38] <zvacet> !wtf | tu
[11:39] <alankila> i3inary: it doesn't make decisions like support acpi / non-acpi system, or support this network card but not that one. Linux comes with pretty much all open source drivers ever written in every system.
[11:39] <vices> for ubunti 8.10, when i go to the sound icon and check preferences, there aren't any options for which microphone to select
[11:39] <michael__> After installing Ubuntu GRUB didn't create an entry for Windows Vista. I can see that Vista is still there, however I can't even mount it in read-only. I need to create a manual entry in grub.cfg, but need a little help.
[11:39] <Gamrok> guys i need some help here whenever i try and install something via terminal i get the following error Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[11:40] <antoni> hi. anybody can tell me how to run echo mia under ubuntustudio 9.10? it's not working "out of the box"
[11:40] <zvacet> vices:  look under volume control
[11:40] <rww> Gamrok: what command are you trying to do?
[11:40] <vices> zvacet: yep, volume control -> preferences
[11:40] <i3inary> alankila, alright then beautiful...so ill exclude /dev and try decompressing over a fresh install to go the easy way...if that doesnt work ill have to learn the boot loader stuff
[11:40] <vices> zvacet, it just has a "select tracks to be visible" and has only one option "master recording"
[11:41] <alankila> i3inary: still, you make a good point. Rebuilding the initramfs is a good idea, so "update-initramfs -u -k all" could be a good idea if it autodetects any support it needs to include. (Not sure if it does.)
[11:41] <Gamrok> rww i just  try and install anything but it does'nt work and i've been doing this all my life sudo apt-get install gnome-do
[11:41] <zvacet> I'm not at Ubuntu right now but you should see pcm,master and so on
[11:42] <alankila> i3inary: yeah check back, tell us how it went. It may be that the boot loader parts need some updating, or maybe not. I haven't checked just how large part of initramfses are dynamically tailored to the underlying system.
[11:42] <rww> Gamrok: what's the output of "ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock"?
[11:42] <i3inary> alankila, thank i will.
[11:42] <alankila> i3inary: to ensure that boot problems don't come bite you, you can also exclude /boot from decompression
[11:42] <zvacet> vices: you should be able to see boxes on left side and check them and you will then have it listed
[11:43] <alankila> i3inary: that way you will keep whatever kernel and grub stuff the installer came up with. It should still work, hopefully.
[11:43] <i3inary> alankila, ok ill do that
[11:43] <e-DIO-t> got it: dd of the 2 mbr => diff!
[11:44] <meowbuntu> hi would my p4 with low ram run better if i ran inside ram outside ram or normal
[11:45] <zvacet> meowbuntu:  how much ram do you have
[11:45] <Parallx> I have a server, and I'm running out of space on disk, and i haven't installed anything for 5 years, where's all the crap?
[11:45] <Slart> inside ram? outside ram? normal? huh?
[11:46] <alankila> Slart: perhaps some people see usb disks and flash sticks as just memory.
[11:46] <candyban> Parallx, /var/log?
[11:46] <candyban> type du -hs /*
[11:47] <candyban> Parallx, that can take quite a long time
[11:47] <meowbuntu> zvacet, i can set my os to run completly in ram. without it or normally.
[11:47] <Slart> alankila: ah.. tricky
[11:47] <scavenger_> I'm looking for a way to start gnome-terminal with certain tabs open - is that possible?
[11:48] <meowbuntu> zvacet, i have p4.768mb ram 1.8 processer  with issues. if i run say firefox and have several windows usingg scripts eg more than a google search page. it can hang
[11:50] <zvacet> meowbuntu: ff eats ram use some other browser like google chrome or something else
[11:50] <bullgard> [seahorse] Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords show 2 lines: "Passwords:default" and "Passwords:login". What is the function or purpose of these 2 lines?
[11:50] <alankila> 768 is quite lot though. Firefox is bloated, but is it that bloated?
[11:50] <MrSunshine_> hmm, i sometimes get a dialog saying "the totem plugin could not be loaded" in firefox, how do i fix this? :/
[11:51] <meowbuntu> zvacet, i do use either ff, chrome(mostly) or kazehakase
[11:51] <hanseatic> quit
[11:51] <indus> meowbuntu, what is kazehakase
[11:52] <zvacet> meowbuntu:  do you have same problems with other two browsers
[11:53] <michael__> After installing Ubuntu GRUB didn't create an entry for Windows Vista. I can see that Vista is still there, however I can't even mount it in read-only. I need to create a manual entry in grub.cfg, but need a little help.
[11:53] <zvacet> indus:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase
[11:54] <alankila> michael__: would that be grub2? Maybe you are missing package called os-prober
[11:54] <alankila> michael__: installing that allow grub2 to autogenerate the entries for OSes it knows about.
[11:54] <michael__> alankila, os-prober wouldn't be able to detect Vista because it needs read access to the partition.
[11:55] <alankila> michael__: so? Shouldn't it have one when you run it as root?
[11:55] <michael__> alankila, Vista wont mount in read-only mode because it wasn't shut down properly, or there are FS errors.
[11:55] <indus> zvacet, wikipedia link dont say much, howdo you pronounce it
[11:55] <meowbuntu> indus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase   it looks feels and acts like google chromeium
[11:55] <cjs> Anybody here familiar with the icky details of an Ubuntu boot of a system with an encrypted root? I've got a system that's not doing the luksOpen it ought to be.
[11:55] <indus> seems like it has tabs drag and drop like chrome
[11:55] <Parallx> candyban: let me try
[11:56] <indus> meowbuntu, looks like firefox, why do you use it?
[11:56] <`mOOse`> Parallx - you could also install bleachbit and take care of lots of crap that way too
[11:56] <shrini> Hi, I dont have admin rights in my windows laptop. As has only C: partition. Is it possible to install ubuntu via wubi without admin rights?
[11:56] <candyban> Parallx, if your server has not been patched for 5 years ... you might also consider that it's been rooted
[11:57] <alankila> michael__: and you can't boot it to let it shutdown properly. Catch-22.
[11:57] <Parallx> candyban: breezy
[11:57] <candyban> Parallx, have you been installing updates?
[11:57] <Parallx> `mOOse`: I don't have apt-get anymore
[11:57] <michael__> alankila, I nearly typed your name out as analkila. Moving on swiftly, yeah exactly catch 22. I run os-prober as root and it returns no output.
[11:58] <Parallx> candyban: updates till end of breezy
[11:58] <joppan> open question is shell promming req C prog skills
[11:58] <gunavara> hey guys, i'm looking for someone that has worked with pitivi ? i need some assistance :)
[11:58] <candyban> Parallx, did you run apt-get clean?
[11:58] <Parallx> candyban: yep
[11:58] <joppan> like if then..if then elif for in do done..blah blah
[11:58] <zvacet> indus:  I didn't try it and this is all I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedApplications
[11:58] <Parallx> all clean
[11:58] <sagaci> joppan: bash?
[11:58] <meowbuntu> indus, its hard to mention. has problems booting mb, i can get around that. when its running it runs ok for some time then it just runs out of ram.
[11:58] <candyban> you can also run "lsof | grep -i deleted"
[11:59] <indus> hmm
[11:59] <alankila> michael__: well, I suppose the grub commands in its shell were at grub1 time something like "rootnoverify (hd,y)" "boot", nothing more complicated than that. I haven't checked what the grub2 commands look like, though.
[11:59] <meowbuntu> its just an old tired computer with issues. but i cant afford to upgrade it
[12:00] <`mOOse`> grub2 is totally different than grub
[12:00] <Parallx> candyban: http://pastebin.com/m76db91d7 10GB disk
[12:00] <`mOOse`> whole new paradigm
[12:00] <meowbuntu> indus, maby i should just ditch ubuntu and use dsl or similar os for older computers
[12:00] <alankila> yeah, grub2 has spoilt me, it has just worked, so I haven't really even read its vaguely programming language -like config
[12:00] <BIDMAS> I'm packaging an application. JDK is a dependency. Specifically which package should I put as a dependency, and should it be in the pre-depends section?
[12:01] <Gryllida> meowbuntu: maybe Puppy Linux. the Ubuntu requirements are https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:01] <alankila> BIDMAS: see for instance ant package. It currently lists default-jre-headless, java1-runtime-headless, java2-runtime-headless
[12:01] <candyban> Parallx, do a df -h && du -hs /media ...
[12:02] <candyban> without the "..." ;)
[12:02] <alankila> BIDMAS: whether you need a GUI it of course another matter, but any already-packaged java app could be it
[12:02] <BIDMAS> alankila: Hmm... so I shouldn't be looking at openjdk or sun-jdk or whatever?
[12:02] <alankila> BIDMAS: preferably no, unless you truly depend on that specific vm
[12:02] <abraham> hi everybody
[12:02] <abraham> i have question about the NAT
[12:02] <alankila> BIDMAS: my guess is, you want default-jre
[12:03] <abraham> how to write it and how to reconfig it
[12:03] <Parallx> candyban: http://pastebin.com/d1f06bfee
[12:03] <candyban> Parallx, and also try the "lsof | grep deleted"
[12:03] <alankila> or well ... hmm ... I'm not sure. :-/
[12:03] <zvacet> meowbuntu:  try Xubuntu see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[12:03] <alankila> default-jre seemed like sane choice, but does it depend on openjdk or how is this mess arranged now
[12:04] <Parallx> candyban: lsof | grep deleted     lsof: WARNING: can't stat() reiserfs file system /dev/.static/dev           Output information may be incomplete.
[12:04] <meowbuntu> zvacet, i think i have suggested requirments
[12:04] <abraham> pleeeeeeeeeeeeees
[12:04] <abraham> I want to know about NAT
[12:04] <meowbuntu> sh: inxi: not found
[12:04] <abraham> any body is there?
[12:04] <candyban> Parallx, nothing for the rest?
[12:04] <ae86-drifter> lol
[12:04] <abraham> yohooooooooo
[12:05] <Parallx> candyban: ????
[12:05] <inveratulo> !patience|abraham
[12:05] <zvacet> meowbuntu:  yes you have but xubuntu is lighter then Gnome so maybe less consuming
[12:05] <candyban> Parallx, like "/tmp/vteN5XH8U (deleted)"
[12:06] <Parallx> candyban: in /tmp  I have just 2 hidden files .ICE-unix & .X11-unix
[12:06] <zvacet> meowbuntu:  I use to run Jaunty with 192MB of ram with LXDE
[12:06] <_dsl> i'm trying to configure a dial-up connection. i installed gnome-ppp but modem isn't detected. doing lspci|grep -i (whatever that means!) shows the modem model...what do I do now please?
[12:06] <candyban> Parallx, no, the output of "lsof | grep deleted"
[12:07] <oaie_seaca> hello. does anyone know if Ubuntu has a problem with the new hard disks from WD that have 4096 segment size ?
[12:07] <candyban> Parallx, run that as root btw :)
[12:07] <Parallx> candyban: no grep output
[12:08] <meowbuntu> zvacet, what does xubuntu run
[12:08] <candyban> Parallx, can you do "du -hs /media/*" ?
[12:09] <meowbuntu> they dont ship free cds of xubuntu or i would have gotten that
[12:09] <zvacet> meowbuntu: xfce see http://www.xubuntu.org/
[12:09] <Parallx> candyban: but /media is mounted on different disks
[12:09] <`mOOse`> I use xubuntu and I love it
[12:10] <`mOOse`> which is xfce
[12:10] <indus> gdm
[12:10] <Parallx> candyban: http://pastebin.com/d29978add
[12:10] <indus> meowbuntu, they do i believe ship xubuntu also
[12:10] <meowbuntu> arg i dont like xfce. i used to run mint 7 xfce comunity edition it ran similar
[12:10] <meowbuntu> indus, not for free though
[12:10] <indus> meowbuntu, really?
[12:11] <meowbuntu> ya
[12:11] <BigMack83> i know this isnt ubuntu related, but im looking for a good irc bot and know about the one in here and was wondering what irc bot the channel uses or if it was a custom one.
[12:11] <`mOOse`> mint is a totally different distro though
[12:11] <candyban> Parallx, is it possible for you to unmount those filesystems one by one? (and then check if the directories are empty)
[12:11] <meowbuntu> BigMack83, it is best to ask the ops here
[12:12] <rww> ubottu: botclone | BigMack83
[12:12] <Parallx> candyban: /media/*  ???
[12:12] <meowbuntu> indus, ran similar to mint main
[12:12] <indus> are the ubuntu cd's rewritable ?
[12:12] <indus> so it says here
[12:12] <BigMack83> awesome, thanks guys
[12:12] <rww> indus: the ones you get from shipit?
[12:12] <meowbuntu> indus, no i dont think so
[12:12] <Parallx> candyban: I just remounted them, but those are data only
[12:12] <indus> eyah
[12:12] <candyban> Parallx, like "umount /media/datos0 && du -hs /media/datos0"
[12:12] <rww> indus: no, they're not
[12:13] <Parallx> candyban: let me check
[12:13] <indus> While we will consider all requests, due to extremely high demand we may choose to send a smaller number of CDs, or refuse your request altogether.
[12:13] <indus> Requesting a smaller number of CDs or a standard option will increase your chances of having the request approved. Remember, you can reuse the CDs!
[12:13] <indus> look last line what it means
[12:13] <meowbuntu> indus, would you suggest i install xfce and test it on my ubuntu os
[12:13] <candyban> Parallx, I suspect you may have put data there while the disks were not mounted ...
[12:13] <indus> meowbuntu, why would i suggest that?
[12:13] <indus> meowbuntu, its ugly and i dont like it
[12:13] <rww> indus: "reuse" as in give to other people or use on other computers
[12:13] <indus> iam going to kde now
[12:14] <indus> bad choice of words
[12:14] <`mOOse`> kde isn't ugly?!
[12:14] <indus> ]reuse buahaha
[12:14] <indus> `mOOse`, you blind?
[12:14] <indus> the menu is ugly though
[12:14] <indus> i hate it
[12:14] <Parallx> candyban: I think that's the problem
[12:14] <bazhang> !ot
[12:14] <meowbuntu> indus, where is the ubuntu info you talking about relating to cds
[12:14] <indus> grrrrr
[12:15] <indus> meowbuntu, on shipit page
[12:15] <`mOOse`> no I don't think  I am...and I've run kde and gnome and xfce and I majorly prefer xcfe to kde
[12:15] <meowbuntu> oh and that is ????
[12:15] <indus> off topic
[12:15] <indus> meowbuntu, nothing, it says cd is reusable
[12:15] <indus> if english is my first language, then i say thats misleading
[12:15] <meowbuntu> `mOOse`, its to each his own
[12:15] <Parallx> candyban: I will clean them up at night, Thank you
[12:16] <indus> how is kde ugly ?
[12:16] <indus> strange
[12:16] <meowbuntu> ok so shipt page is where then
[12:16] <rww> indus: The aesthetic merits of KDE, as you have been told, is offtopic for an Ubuntu support channel.
[12:16] <bazhang> indus, please take chat to the appropriate channel
[12:16] <zvacet> `mOOse`: try enlightenment
[12:16] <indus> ah oh rww you a op too?
[12:16] <indus> ok moved on
[12:16] <joy> hi guys
[12:17] <indus> joy, hey
[12:17] <`mOOse`> !enlightenment
[12:17] <rww> ubottu: shipit | meowbuntu
[12:17] <usman> how do install drivers for canon ip1980
[12:17] <candyban> rww, can we talk about the aestetics of gnome?
[12:17] <candyban> ;)
[12:17] <`mOOse`> heh
[12:17] <`mOOse`> noh!
[12:17] <rww> candyban: Sure, in #ubuntu-offtopic ;P
[12:17] <indus> i too do shipit, recently i burned 100 cds
[12:17] <usman> Ubuntu is not detecting drivers for canon ip1980 please help
[12:17] <candyban> ubottu, E17 is in development since what 1998?
[12:18] <oscarbl> hello can anybody help me. my ubuntu sofware centre doesnt start
[12:18] <meowbuntu> #ubuntu-oftopic maybe to talk about kde gnome and xfce differences
[12:18] <indus> usman, canon should have drivers on theri site did you check
[12:18] <rww> candyban: December 2000
[12:18] <usman> Indus: Yes checked but they say they need a package libcupsys2
[12:19] <candyban> rww, well, it feels a lot longer than a "mere 10 years" ;)
[12:19] <indus> usman, and ? libcupsys2 not in synaptic ?
[12:19] <usman> Indus: It is in latest version which is libcups2
[12:19] <joy> just anyone using ubuntu 9.10
[12:19] <joy> i have some problems with compiz here..
[12:19] <usman> indus: but it does not support the old drivers
[12:19] <indus> usman, wait,
[12:21] <Guest59429> hello
[12:21] <hello> hi
[12:21] <meowbuntu> indus, well i cant find where it says the cds are rw
[12:21] <joy> hi guys i have a problem with compiz here.
[12:21] <hello> hi
[12:22] <indus> usman, i just found your ubuntu forums post :) noone answered
[12:22] <tobiash> hi, is there any reason to excuse lack of Ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:22] <indus> meowbuntu, reusable means what
[12:22] <meowbuntu> rw
[12:22] <rww> no
[12:22] <usman> indus: That is why I am here ain't it?
[12:22] <indus> yeah
[12:22] <tobiash> I can't connect to wireless network via usb
[12:22] <bartmon> Hi! I'm doing a project for college course and i need to test early KVM versions.That means kernel 2.6.20 and onwards.  * Resetting ALSA...                                                            amixer: Invalid command!" ?
[12:23] <bartmon> ok, sorry for the typos :P
[12:23] <devunt> ㅋ
[12:23] <gavin_> Appearance only changes gtk theme.
[12:23] <indus> meowbuntu, heh yes thats what they probably meant, ill write to them , how silly
[12:23] <indus> usman, http://mfirmanshah.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/install-printer-canon-pixma-ip1980-in-ubuntu-jaunty-jackalope/
[12:23] <usuario_> olaaaaaaa!!!
[12:23] <gavin_> nevermind.
[12:23] <gavin_> i found it.
[12:23] <indus> usman, you need to slect 1 libcupsys2 for install
[12:23] <usuario_> y adiosssss!!!!
[12:23] <meowbuntu> indus, they are reusable to rw on or to use as something else(recycle)
[12:24] <indus> meowbuntu, reusable to rw ?
[12:24] <meowbuntu> ^ or upcycle
[12:24] <oscarbl> adios usuario
[12:24] <rww> meobuntu: as I said already, it means "reuse" as in give to other people or use on other computers
[12:24] <rww> meowbuntu **
[12:24] <usman> indus: tried and failed already got error saying that libcupsys is already the latest versin
[12:24] <meowbuntu> indus, meaning are they cd rw
[12:24] <indus> meowbuntu, i dont know
[12:24] <indus> meowbuntu, no i think
[12:24] <rww> oh for crying out loud
[12:24] <indus> meowbuntu, just cd r
[12:25] <oscarbl> has anybody tried lynx lucid
[12:25] <indus> rww,  welcome
[12:25] <meowbuntu> ok
[12:25] <rww> indus, meowbuntu: I just got back from a conference where we handed out about three hundred of them. *They are not CD-RWs*
[12:25]  * meowbuntu is no longer confused thanks to rww
[12:25] <indus> oscarbl, please try #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <indus> rww, 300 good,
[12:25] <oscarbl> indus where i can get it?
[12:25] <indus> rww, what could be a good burner for high quantity
[12:26] <indus> oscarbl, type /join #ubuntu+1
[12:26] <oscarbl> ok thanks
[12:26] <meowbuntu> indus, #ubuntu+1  support for the new beta version right???
[12:26] <indus> usman, can you reinstall libcupsys2 instead of
[12:26] <indus> yes alpha version
[12:26] <indus> alpha 2 but alpha 3 is due soon
[12:26] <meowbuntu> indus, or just click on #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <indus> aaarrgh yes !! oscarbl JUST click on #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <indus> !noob
[12:27] <meowbuntu> ok so #ubuntu+1 is for the latest testing releases
[12:27] <indus> yes always
[12:27] <Guest18655> Hi all
[12:27] <indus> usman, remove the libcup whatever completely and reinstall
[12:28] <BiriX> !jfgi
[12:28] <indus> printers are such a pain
[12:28] <Guest18655> I got the following problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen
[12:28] <ace721> Does anyone know how to setup a VPN? I followed all instructions and searched the web extensively and still can't get it to work. I'm running Karmic 32 bit
[12:28] <usman> no I am unable to re-install libcupsys2 because it is oudated and is replaced by libcups2 which is the present edition and it is a important security update
[12:28] <Guest39936> hi
[12:28] <usman> the canon drivers support only the old version
[12:28] <indus> usman, try some backports then
[12:28] <Guest18655> I did try reconfig graphics and control alt f1/f2
[12:29] <meowbuntu> indus, apart from a cli only ubuntu os whats the lightest ubuntu i can get
[12:29] <usman> indus; what are backports?
[12:29] <indus> usman, i mean, can you hmm download the jaunty version from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <indus> meowbuntu, xfce , fluxbox i think and similar
[12:29] <indus> !wm
[12:29] <Guest18655> lightest = xubuntu
[12:29] <Guest18655> I think
[12:29] <meowbuntu> indus, so just get !#
[12:29] <indus> meowbuntu, i think ubuntu server :D
[12:29] <Guest18655> yeah, but thats without gui
[12:30] <Guest18655> you can use alternative cd
[12:30] <meowbuntu> indus, crunchbang !# basiclly is ubuntu with openbox
[12:30] <indus> !enlightenment
[12:30] <indus> ok a little off toipic now
[12:30] <Guest18655> I need some help with graphic drivers...
[12:30] <Guest18655> I got the following problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen
[12:30] <meowbuntu> !i tryed building an Enlightenment os last week from ubuntu disapointing and frustraighting
[12:30] <Guest18655> I did try reconfig graphics and control alt f1/f2
[12:31] <adalal> anyone familiar with iptables, and how to forward ports?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> !iptables
[12:31] <adalal> thansk
[12:31] <indus> usman, bump your thread on the forums
[12:31] <indus> usman, let it move up
[12:31] <adalal> Dr_Willis: but that doesn't show HOW to forward ports...
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> adalal:  iptables has 1000000+ tutorals and guides out on the net.
[12:32] <Spanglish_7776> adalal: this should give you an idea http://www.howtoforge.com/nat-gateway-iptables-port-forwarding-dns-and-dhcp-setup-ubuntu-8.10-server
[12:32] <Guest18655> Dr Willis, can you help me?
[12:32] <indus> adalal, try the gui ?
[12:33] <Guest18655> I got this problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  always state your video card when mentiong a video issue
[12:33] <usman> indus: how do you bump it
[12:33] <Guest18655> Onboard
[12:33]  * B|aSS is away: Yeah dude, Im Away!
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  so its onboard.. thers hundereds of chipsets an onbord video card can be using
[12:34] <Guest18655> But the weird thing is, i got all the loading
[12:34] <adalal> indus: im trying to setup a gateway, using a network alias instead of using two NICs
[12:34] <Guest18655> in good res.
[12:34] <indus> usman, just login and type the word bump as a reply :)
[12:34] <Guest18655> but when the login comes, nothing
[12:34] <usman> indus: okay
[12:34] <Guest18655> even not the text based login
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  X uses differnt drivers then the Boot splash screen. Xsplash and GDM then show up in X.
[12:34] <BusMaster> after installing thunderbird-3.1 from the ppa, I get the message "Error getting mail password" when I start up. Has anyone faced this before? Google seems to suggest that mozilla doesn't know how to fix it
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  see if alt-ctrl-F1 throiugh F6 get you to 'consoles' where you can log in. for starters
[12:35] <Guest18655> i did try that
[12:35] <indus> Dr_Willis, what ? diff for boot splash but same for gdm
[12:35] <Guest18655> did not display
[12:35] <meua> hi! i'm running some "hello world"-like python script and python process consume 100% of both my CPU... where can i start to fix this please ?
[12:35] <indus> Dr_Willis, if it wont find drivers, it either falls to vesa or boink no?
[12:36] <indus> meua, can i see the code?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> splash logo -> xsplash (whih is in X) -> gdm
[12:36] <indus> !paste | meua
[12:36] <indus> Dr_Willis, yeah
[12:36] <indus> so in karmic i hear the gdm cant be changes
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  then you got some deep issues. You need to test with some live cd's and determine what your video card is for starters
[12:36] <indus> how to?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> indus:  it can be changed slightly. and there are a few extra temes for it
[12:37] <indus> Guest18655, what video card? pressed f1 where it gets stuck ?i mean ctl f1
[12:37] <meua> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381562/
[12:37] <indus> or was that alt clt f1
[12:37] <Guest18655> control alt f1 = not workig
[12:37] <Guest18655> right after the boot loading thing
[12:37] <Guest18655> i already tried reconfig xorg
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  for all we know the system could just be crashing badly. How did you reconfig xorg if you cant log in?
[12:38] <usman> indus: how much more can a person elevate his thread
[12:38] <indus> usman, you havent elevated at all
[12:39] <Guest18655> safe mode
[12:39] <usman> indus: I replied with bump
[12:39] <Guest18655> and netroot (safemode)
[12:39] <Guest18655> Nvidia GeForce 8200 = video card
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Guest18655:  so you got X working from safemode with 'startx' ?
[12:40] <Guest18655> no, i booted, got safemode
[12:40] <Guest18655> text based
[12:40] <Guest18655> worked
[12:40] <ubyserver> Greetings
[12:40] <Guest18655> then normal boot, loading = ok, login =fail
[12:41] <tobiash> hi, is there any reason to excuse lack of Ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:41] <usman> Is there anyway of recovering files even after they have been deleted from the trash
[12:41] <indus> usman, no
[12:41] <Guest18655> yes
[12:41] <tobiash> second thing why isn't wireless work
[12:41] <Guest18655> there is
[12:41] <meua> indus, http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5373/screenshotho.png
[12:41] <indus> usman, or extremely difficuly
[12:41] <indus> meua, i tried it runs ok
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> I thought ndiswrapper was getting more and more obsolete these days..
[12:42] <meua> indus, it runs ok for me too, but even with the console shutted down, the python's process keep consuming 100%... :(
[12:42] <ubyserver> Should I do a dist-upgrade and upgrade or just one of the two?
[12:43] <ubyserver> I've already done the apt-get update
[12:43] <indus> meua, thats probably due to another process?
[12:43] <indus> meua, chekc which process
[12:43] <NCS_One> hi
[12:43] <meua> indus, ok thanks fo your time !
[12:43] <Guest18655> I am in safemode again, what should I choose?
[12:44] <indus> meua, see any process with 100 %?
[12:45] <meua> indus, i've stopped both python process and everything come back to normal (average 20%CPU)
[12:46] <sgsawant_> Hi Vishal!
[12:46] <meua> indus, it might be my attempt to install eclipse and pydev plugin that started a undesirable process maybe...
[12:46] <indus> maybe, but rest assured your program is too simple to do anything
[12:46] <sgsawant_> Why's there such a silence on this IRC?
[12:47] <meua> indus, ok. Thanks once again !
[12:47] <indus> meua, i just thought it was running some loop etc or doing some crazy maths
[12:47] <meua> indus, nope i'm learning programming with a very basic tutorial... just this
[12:48] <indus> meua, do try byteofpython.info
[12:48] <meua> indus, i'm on this http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/ch03.html
[12:48] <indus> meua, ok sure, good luck
[12:49] <adalal> heya again, for my iptables, the --dport option isnt being  recognised
[12:49] <edqnag> hi
[12:49] <Guest18655> tried xfix again
[12:49] <sgsawant> I needed help with my PDF Printer. Is anyone able & willing?
[12:50] <Guest18655> how can i start graphics from commandline?
[12:50] <hapik> hello
[12:51] <ubyserver> Guest18655: startx
[12:51] <ubyserver> Hope that I am right.
[12:51] <ubyserver> Hello hapik
[12:51] <Guest18655> whohoo, black screen
[12:52] <meua> indus, would you advice me vi or gedit ? :)
[12:52] <indus> meua, gedit
[12:52] <meua> ok thx
[12:52] <indus> meua,nano
[12:52] <indus> meua, i like gui stuff
[12:52] <hapik> what is the path to a printing program? I am supposed to give it to another application
[12:53] <meua> nano... i'll check it right now
[12:53] <hapik> actually I need creating PDF files from Opera
[12:54] <shashank> shashank, Hi!
[12:54] <edqnag> can anyone tell me how to clear my GRUB loading screen after i updated my ubuntu, thank you.
[12:54] <lisa_> hey,  i want to use my other ubuntu box as a proxy. how do i do that?
[12:54] <sgsawant> shashank, Hi!
[12:56] <adalal> edqnag: remove the unnecessary kernels, and run update-grub
[12:56] <adalal> as root
[12:56] <adalal> anyone here knows why the --dport option wouldnt be working on iptables?
[12:56] <edqnag> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ??
[12:56] <kN0_> Q: Can someone here give me some hints on how to check for, and "isolate"/fix bad HD blocks n Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:56] <Guest18655> I tried remove/install xorg now....
[12:56] <kN0_> Booting into single mode and running fsck doesn't do anything.
[12:57] <kN0_> It just replies with this: /dev/sda5: clean, 122033/3481600 files, 5372219/13916062 blocks
[12:57] <adalal> edqnag: just a apt-get remove linux-header-2.....
[12:57] <adalal> edqnag: and also the linux-image-. ... that you woulnd't need
[12:57] <kN0_> SOrry - Ubuntu 9.04 I mean
[12:57] <edqnag> i runed this and i think it removed it
[12:57] <dagny_taggart> kN0_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks
[12:57] <adalal> edqnag: ran a sudo update-grub?
[12:57] <indus> adalal, --dport?
[12:57] <adalal> indus: yeah, as in, destination port
[12:57] <edqnag> adalal ill do that ok
[12:57] <indus> adalal, did you give the port
[12:57] <indus> the number
[12:57] <indus> --dport 23 for example
[12:58] <adalal> indus: i did, --dport 65502
[12:58] <indus> so what do you mean its not working
[12:58] <zetheroo> something happened between Intrepid and Karmic that completely wrecks the graphics on my X31 Thinkpad ... what a darn shame
[12:58] <adalal> indus: it gies the error: ptables v1.4.4: unknown option `--dport'
[12:58] <Guest18655> indus, nothing seems working. you got any ideas? otherwise i need to chmod my private folder
[12:58] <indus> lol
[12:58] <indus> strange
[12:58] <indus> adalal, give me your entire command
[12:58] <indus> adalal, you type wrong iam sure
[12:59] <adalal> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p all ! -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 --destination-port 6502 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:59] <adalal> indus: i also tried it with --to-destination instead of --to
[12:59] <indus> adalal, ok so just use --dport and see instead of destination
[12:59] <adalal> indus: as in?
[12:59] <indus> adalal, just letter d my dear
[12:59] <Guest18655> indus, now got an error, DMKS = fail...
[13:00] <tobiash> which driver to use with ndiswrapper for tp link wn422g??
[13:00] <indus> Guest18655, what ar eyou trying to do?
[13:00] <Guest18655> fix my graphics
[13:00] <Guest18655> >.<
[13:00] <indus> Guest18655, which is your graphics card
[13:00] <Guest18655> 	Nvidia GeForce 8200
[13:00] <Guest18655> onboard
[13:00] <FloodBot2> Guest18655: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <indus> Guest18655, great did you install drivers?
[13:00] <indus> Guest18655, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[13:00] <adalal> indus: wait, could you write out that line here?
[13:00] <Guest18655> :O i will try
[13:00] <paissad> guys, before configuring my postfix server, i wonder if i should not change the value of the field MX from "redirect.ovh.net" to "paissad.net" http://pastebin.com/d4de71642
[13:01] <wejick> hallo, please test my private tool sisrestore.googlecode.com. it function like deepfreeze
[13:01] <indus> Guest18655, do you have a terminal to type?
[13:01] <tobiash> help me
[13:01] <Guest18655> i will try install it now!
[13:02] <indus> Guest18655, if you have a gui, just go to menu>system>admin>hardwarea drivers and install from there
[13:02] <tobiash> which driver to use with ndiswrapper for tp link wn422g??
[13:02] <adalal> indus: you suggest that i dont use the dport?
[13:03] <indus> adalal, the commadn you pasted, you have written --destination-port, i said just use --dport
[13:03] <Guest18655> couldnt find package
[13:03] <indus> you get it?
[13:03] <adalal> indus: i've tried that, still says invalid option
[13:03] <indus> Guest18655, can you tell me if you have a display
[13:04] <Guest18655> I just got the error, package not found
[13:04] <maroy> hi
[13:05] <maroy> I have a system restore / opt issue, I get the following error when doing an apt-get -f install:
[13:05] <maroy> Preparing to replace libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6.1 (using .../libc6_2.10.1-0ubuntu16_amd64.deb) ...
[13:05] <maroy> Died at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 57.
[13:05] <maroy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.10.1-0ubuntu16_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[13:05] <adalal> anyone knows why the --dport option on iptables be an invalid one
[13:05] <adalal> ?
[13:05] <maroy>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[13:05] <indus> Guest18655, ok do one thing, type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:05] <FloodBot2> maroy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <maroy> I can't seem to get around this issue
[13:05] <tobiash> which driver to use with ndiswrapper for tp link wn422g?? The led is not blinking or nothing, seems like system doesn't see the usb device
[13:05] <maroy> and i can't find the subprocess error details eithe
[13:05] <maroy> either
[13:05] <Guest18655> i see vesa
[13:05] <kN0> Q: I was just adviced to use badblocks in single-user mode. But: How the heck do I unmount the file system? I only have one physical partition, and "umount /dev/sda5" doesn't help. badblocks still complains that the file system is mounted, and won't run.
[13:05] <CAP5478> >> hello>>
[13:06] <maroy> where could I find more info on how to solve this isse?
[13:06] <calebjohnson> kN0: as far as i'm aware, if you only have one physical parition you can't unmount it unless you're not using it
[13:06] <ubyserver> How would I find out if I'm running Ubuntu 64bit from Command line?
[13:06] <ikonia> ubyserver: uname -a
[13:07] <kN0> Then how the heck can the bad blocks be found/fixed? They can't, eh?
[13:07] <ubyserver> Sup ikonia :)
[13:07] <indus> ikonia, can you help with this iptables issue
[13:07] <calebjohnson> kN0 install another HDD, boot on that and scan you're original drive? or boot into a live CD
[13:07] <indus> adalal, can you type that line here once again the command
[13:07] <ikonia> indus: no idea, I can try, that's the issue ?
[13:07] <kN0> Installing another hd on a laptop isn't exactly straight-forward :-)
[13:07] <Guest18655> indus, i see a nice config file, with as the driver:vesa
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> kN0:  guess you use the 2nd option he gave then
[13:08] <calebjohnson> kN0: live cd?
[13:08] <tobiash> which driver to use with ndiswrapper for tp link wn422g?? The led is not blinking or nothing, seems like system doesn't see the usb device
[13:08] <adalal> indus: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p all ! -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j DNAT --dport 65502 -d <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:08] <CAP5478> >> SOMEONE SPEAK SPANISH?>>
[13:08] <kN0> Thanks for the advice though. HOwever, this is so pathetic that the only intelligent solution seems to be installing windows to try and fix the disk.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> !es | CAP5478
[13:08] <indus> ikonia,  see that iptables command above?
[13:08] <kN0> Ya, live cd might be an idea too.
[13:08] <ikonia> indus: I do
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> kN0:  assuming it CAN be fixed... and windows can be installed
[13:09] <indus> i remember you know this issue so maybe you can guide him
[13:09] <calebjohnson> kN0: Live CD is your best choice imo
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Hard drives = the weakest link these days.
[13:09] <ubyserver> ikonia it reads i686 GNU/Linux
[13:09] <CAP5478> >> alguien habla español?>>
[13:09] <ubyserver> I know about i386
[13:09] <ikonia> ubyserver: 32bit
[13:09] <ubyserver> Alright thanx
[13:09] <simion314> hi, i can't boot from my USb flsh anymore, my BIOS is set corectly, the flash i created it corect so or my machine has a problem or my USB drive but i have another machine or another USB drive to test , any ideea?
[13:09] <kN0> yah, maybe
[13:09] <ikonia> adalal: ok - so what's the issue (also why ! -s) ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> simion314:  ive had some flash drives not work on some machines.. but others.. and flash drives tht Do work on the problem machine.. not work on others..
[13:10] <adalal> ikonia: because i want traffic from all sources not within that subnet with that port routing to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> simion314:  try diffrent flash drives and machines
[13:10] <ikonia> adalal: is it giving you an error, or just not working ?
[13:10] <ikonia> adalal: should it not be !-s  ?
[13:11] <adalal> ikonia: the only error is that --dport is an invalid option
[13:11] <simion314> Dr_Willis: this drive worked on this machine before, maybe it get tired of me using it as a bootable CD
[13:12] <ikonia> adalal: that looks fine to me, have you tried in #netfilter ?
[13:12] <adalal> ikonia: i shall try
[13:13] <ikonia> adalal: --dport seems valid as a destination port, more so after you've told it to -J DNAT
[13:13] <ubyserver> How would I figure the version of Ubuntu to make sure it is 8.04?
[13:13] <tobiash> will someone help me already?
[13:14] <ubyserver> patience tobiash
[13:14] <ikonia> ubyserver: lsb_release -a
[13:14] <adalal> ikonia: i thought so too, and its being quite annoying
[13:14] <tobiash> which driver to use with ndiswrapper for tp link wn422g?? The led is not blinking or nothing, seems like system doesn't see the usb device
[13:14] <ubyserver> ikonia you are loved :)
[13:14] <tobiash> I tried XP one, and it doesn't say it is invalid
[13:14] <ikonia> adalal: the only thing I'm wondering if the order of the command, eg: --dport matters more tahn I'm thinking
[13:14] <Guest18655> indus, what driver do i need, instead of vesa?
[13:14] <ikonia> adalal: eg: set the --dport before the nat option
[13:14] <ikonia> adalal: I'm only guessing though as the command looks valid
[13:14] <tobiash> as well as vista one, but it still says unable to tell if hardware is present
[13:15] <tobiash> with xp one it says that cound not find network configuration tool
[13:15] <adalal> ikonia: i'll try
[13:16] <meowbuntu> i'm thinking if bying an imac 3g. not sure what moddle atm. anyone used them before
[13:16] <Oli``> How can I get the path of a script: ie script is /path/to/script.sh and I want "/path/to/" regardless of where I call it from (a bit like __dir__ in PHP)
[13:17] <Gangrel> !winamp
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> simion314:  ive had hard drives die while i was using them.. editing a document.. click-clack-clunk. crash... hd dead...
[13:17] <w8ing4lucid> Has anyone used karmic with via technologies graphics card?
[13:17] <Gangrel> !xmms
[13:17] <Gangrel> !xmms2
[13:17] <adalal> ikonia: i just got it, -p all can't be used with --dports, i have  to set one for tcp and udp seperately
[13:17] <calebjohnson> q: any idea how I can map netowrk drives so they appear as being local??
[13:17] <calebjohnson> q: network shares*
[13:18] <w8ing4lucid> one vote more for xmms2
[13:18] <ikonia> adalal: I believe you - but why not ? ahhh wait - you should use --sport and -dport -p is too generic
[13:18] <Myrtti> calebjohnson: add them to your fstab
[13:18] <pwebster25> I'm trying to debug Acroread in Karmic 64AMD.  It won't open.  It says the following when I open it in terminal: (acroread:17095): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (595592439)
[13:18] <pwebster25> I think it is because I am a domain user and my user ID # is too high.
[13:18] <calebjohnson> Myrtti: can i add smb://x.x.x.x in there?
[13:19] <adalal> ikonia: -p all indicates stuff like icmp and all, which dont have ports :P
[13:19] <w8ing4lucid> i cannot run 3d acceleration for via vn400/pm800/pm880. Has anyone done it?
[13:19] <simion314> Dr_Willis: same happened to me and i was lucky that it hapend in windows, otherwise all people would say that linux cause it to die
[13:20] <Myrtti> calebjohnson: it's a bit more complicated than that, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/mount.cifs.8.html explains a bit
[13:20] <detrate> anyone else notice you can't toggle volume with your hotkeys if you have a context menu open?
[13:20] <detrate> this also happens with drop down menus for me
[13:20] <calebjohnson> Myrtti: that should be enough to figure it out, thanks :)
[13:21] <hapik> hi, is there a CLI command to convert simple XML file to pdf or txt?
[13:21] <Lasher777> hey there peeps
[13:21] <Lasher777> was wondering if someone can help me.. i want to chage one key on the keyboard to something else but dont know how
[13:21] <Lasher777> chage/change
[13:21] <Myrtti> calebjohnson: then of course you need to know how to work with fstab, hold on I know the perfect webpage
[13:22] <w8ing4lucid> Lasher777: i think that you can make your own keyboard mapping in /etc/X22/xkb/symbols
[13:22] <Myrtti> calebjohnson: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[13:22] <Lasher777> mk
[13:23] <w8ing4lucid> /etc/X11/xkb/symbols
[13:23] <Lasher777> what do i edit with gedit or something
[13:24] <jiohdi> anyone know how to change the screen saver on UNR
[13:24] <ubyserver> Let us see how this Plesk Installation goes on the live server.
[13:25] <Lasher777> /etc/X11/xkb/ contains only base.xml
[13:26] <adifire> how to install web2py in ubuntu?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:27] <alex98> ola
[13:27] <BluesKaj> oops , oops
[13:27] <BluesKaj> :)
[13:28] <itheos> hey ubuntu isnt shipped to china?
[13:29] <rothsdad> itheos: ubuntu is shipped to china
[13:29] <jiohdi> the chinese can down load it just like everyone else, can't they?
[13:29] <itheos> how to give the address? :p
[13:29] <rothsdad> itheos: you can join the ubuntu-cn channel
[13:29] <itheos> i dont know chinese :D
[13:30] <jiohdi> bok choi = white vegetable
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Moo Goo Gai Pan! :) thats what i know
[13:30] <rothsdad> itheos: ok, just give them your address
[13:30] <AOch> bai cai
[13:30] <jiohdi> moo goo gai pan= boneless chicken
[13:30] <airstrike> hi. i have custom fonts installed (e.g. helvetica) and i'm able to use them in every app except OpenOffice because they're not in the drop down list. how can i fix this?
[13:30] <rothsdad> 白菜
[13:31] <itheos> ok its my friend's house that i have to get it shipped
[13:31] <rothsdad> 蘑菇盖饭 = moo goo gai pan
[13:31] <AOch> gong bao ji ding
[13:31] <itheos> i gave the address in english but it hasnt reached yet
[13:31] <itheos> lol
[13:31] <rothsdad> itheos: i've no idea
[13:31] <itheos> seems everybody is chinese here
[13:31] <jiohdi> nyi hao ma - common greeting (you good eh?)
[13:31] <w8ing4lucid> airstrike: tried running fc-cache ?
[13:31] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis, have you ever used imac before
[13:32] <rothsdad> jiohdi: nyi hao ma 你好吗？
[13:32] <airstrike> they've been installed for ages and i've been using them for a while in other apps, so i don't think fc-cache will do the trick
[13:32] <itheos> ok thanks everybody :)
[13:32] <jiohdi> hoa wah hoa
[13:32] <rothsdad> itheos: my pleasure
[13:32] <itheos> :p
[13:32] <Myrtti> !cn | rothsdad
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  yes.. it stinks
[13:32] <AOch> hao wa hao wa
[13:33] <AOch> hoa looks very cantonese
[13:33] <rothsdad> AOch: are u chinese?
[13:33] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[13:33] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis, i have gteh opertuinity to get a colectable imac 3g for $50 new zealand
[13:33] <airstrike> w8ing4lucid: any other ideas?
[13:34] <itheos> Myrtti, thanks. so its #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:34] <J> Just to let you know, I was here yesterday complaining about the fonts in Firefox, tried alsorts of things to fix it, now today I just set the serif and sans-serif fonts in Firefox to Arial and all looks good
[13:34] <AOch> no but I live in china
[13:34] <rothsdad> AOch: cool
[13:34] <AOch> in Shanghai
[13:34] <jiohdi> you were shanghaied?
[13:34] <rothsdad> AOch: I live in tianjin
[13:35] <Myrtti> ... please people, keep this channel for Ubuntu support, and move the offtopic elsewhere
[13:35] <AOch> up north where it is very cold
[13:35] <rothsdad> Myrtti: ok
[13:35] <itheos> :)
[13:35] <AOch> near beijing
[13:35] <rothsdad> Myrtti: :)
[13:35] <Myrtti> AOch: you too.
[13:35] <jiohdi> see ubuntu-offtopic
[13:35] <J> also deselect the "Allow pages to choose their own fonts..." -thing
[13:35] <AOch> oops sorry
[13:35] <craling> My recently started hanging on halt.  How can I figure out what process is holding up the shutdown?
[13:35] <Lasher777> no one can help me with the re mapping keyboard thingy??
[13:36] <Gangrel> !multimedia
[13:37] <Bisu[Shield]> hey guys is a sidebar or desktop widget i can use with ubuntu?
[13:38] <tallyho> screenlets Bisu[Shield]
[13:38] <Gangrel> any good media player besides MPlayer/rythmbox/xmms2/audicious?
[13:38] <airstrike> Gangrel: vlc
[13:38] <airstrike> hi. i have custom fonts installed (e.g. helvetica) and i'm able to use them in every app except OpenOffice because they're not in the drop down list. fc-cache doesn't solve the problem. how can i fix this?
[13:38] <Lasher777> exaile my fav
[13:38] <tallyho> VLC Gangrel
[13:39] <rothsdad> hey, is there a rss reader that works in the shell?
[13:40] <Bisu[Shield]> y would u want an rss ready in shell?
[13:41] <michas> siemka
[13:41] <michas> jest ktos??
[13:41] <Pici> !pl | michas
[13:41] <Guest37491> mam problem nie moge zainstalowac steroow ati na mojego 9.10;/
[13:42] <tobiash> tp link wn422g is such a failure, no way to get it to work boycott TP LINK!!
[13:42] <geniv> mplayer id very good ;)
[13:42] <geniv> *is
[13:42] <tobiash> geniv mplayer is ground breaking
[13:42] <tobiash> imo
[13:43] <rothsdad> Bisu[Shield]: because i change the gnome to awesome
[13:43] <tobiash> geniv I didn't like it at first and prefered vlc, but things have changed
[13:43] <ubyserver> I wonder if I change the hostname of my server online, will that drop me and mess things up.
[13:43] <ubyserver> Anyone happen to know the answer to that question!
[13:45] <ubyserver> ikonia It is definitely a hostname issue with my live server when trying to install plesk because the hostname is #####. instead of localhost.com
[13:45] <craling> I tried poweroff instead of halt and get the same issue.
[13:45] <craling> There appears to be a trace on the console but I can't see all of it.  Is there a way to get it back on the following login?
[13:47] <ubyserver> I'm thinking about just doing it.
[13:48] <luis_>  HOLA SOY NUEVO EN ESTE TEMA
[13:48] <e-DIO-t> so use english :)
[13:48] <Pici> !es | luis_
[13:48] <luis_> SI
[13:49] <luis_> GRACIAS
[13:51] <testpil0t> hello
[13:53] <achara> ay algien español
[13:53] <achara> ?????????????????????????????
[13:53] <Myrtti> !es
[13:53] <jpds> !es | achara
[13:53] <Pici> !es | achara
[13:53] <achara> si o no
[13:53] <achara> qeee
[13:53] <Myrtti> no
[13:53] <achara> ?
[13:53] <achara> qen eres?
[13:54] <achara> myrtti
[13:54] <adifire> hey hey isn't this english channel???
[13:54] <achara> ola
[13:54] <testpil0t> it is
[13:54] <jiohdi> si ingrish only
[13:55] <family1234> alo
[13:55] <achara> ay algien qe no sea ingles
[13:55] <achara> ola
[13:55] <testpil0t> :51:28] * Joins: duffydack<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:55] <testpil0t> [02-22 @14:51:49] * Quit
[13:55] <testpil0t> wow sorry
[13:55] <family1234> !list
[13:55] <testpil0t> I want to install Ubuntu on my DesktopPC, where i have two monitors connected. Is it possible that on one monitor i'd always have one single workspace, and on the others that beeing able to switch them ?
[13:55] <FloodBot2> testpil0t: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <achara> si o no
[13:55] <meowbuntu> is it easy to create usb ram
[13:55] <achara> ola
[13:56] <achara> eo
[13:56] <ISsupport00232> i have a read only file i need to edit..  how can i free this up
[13:56] <achara> ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[13:57] <family1234> !helps
[13:57] <BigMack83> sorry the bot was being stupid so i took it down
[13:57] <meowbuntu> i'm wanting to increase the ram in my pentium 4 computer cheep
[13:57] <BigMack83> fixing it now
[13:57] <achara> ola eres español no verdad
[13:58] <achara> yes
[13:58] <BigMack83> family1234, hah sorry, wrong room
[13:58] <achara> hah happy
[13:59] <frakor> hi all
[13:59] <achara> pos adios
[13:59] <frakor> #frakorchannel
[14:00] <maria> hello
[14:00] <maria> hii !
[14:00] <Bomby> sal care stiti cu pot adauga un canal de mirc
[14:00] <Bomby> am linux
[14:00] <montana_> is it possible to create liveusb without root on ubuntu?
[14:00] <maria> hay alguien que hable español
[14:00] <Bomby> si e diferit fata de celelalte
[14:00] <maria> ?¿
[14:01] <BluesKaj> !es | maria
[14:01] <meowbuntu> is it good to use usb ram
[14:02] <Fill23> i manually installed teeworlds because version in rep is obsolete, how to add it in games section in main menu, and how to bind it with "teeworlds" word so i can lunch it from terminal?
[14:02] <indus> meowbuntu, usb ram?
[14:02] <band_of_koala> how do you join ##hardware
[14:02] <band_of_koala> it says cannot join must be identified with services
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !ro | Bomby
[14:02] <indus> Fill23, right click menu>edit menu> games> add new >add the command
[14:02] <Myrtti> !register | band_of_koala
[14:03] <band_of_koala> thanks
[14:03] <indus> Fill23, give the path as so /path/to/filename/executable
[14:03] <indus> Fill23, do add icon also if available
[14:03] <g0th> hi
[14:03] <Fill23> ok and how to make it lunch from terminal?
[14:04] <rothsdad> does emacs can be a rss reader?
[14:04] <g0th> I plan to buy the "HP Pavilion HPE-140ch, i7 860, 8GB, Blu-ray" desktop
[14:04] <indus> Fill23, same , type full path name to game
[14:04] <rothsdad> g0th: bad idae
[14:04] <g0th> how do I find out if it is compatible? what about the blueray drive? network card? sound card? nVidia GeForce GTX260SE?
[14:04] <rothsdad> g0th: idea*
[14:04] <striker> hi
[14:04] <g0th> hmm why?
[14:04] <striker> chatting
[14:04] <Fill23> no i mean using jst "teeworlds" like "firefox" and others
[14:04] <rothsdad> g0th: i have one
[14:04] <ubyserver> How do I clear a user from /etc/passwd again
[14:04] <g0th> ohh
[14:04] <ubyserver> user = popuser
[14:04] <meowbuntu> indus, i can go and by usb flash drives with flash ram for windows computers
[14:04] <ubyserver> service qmail
[14:04] <g0th> rothsdad: what's the problem?
[14:05] <ubyserver> something I will not use.
[14:05] <rothsdad> g0th: because of the heat it didn't work
[14:05] <indus> Fill23, so forexample if game is in folder called gamefolder, type after $/home/yourname/gamefolder/gameexe
[14:05] <g0th> heat?
[14:05] <rothsdad> g0th: cpu and gpu's heat
[14:05] <g0th> but isn't there a vent?
[14:05] <rothsdad> g0th: no use
[14:06] <g0th> I don't get it it is a very well known model?
[14:06] <g0th> but it is still too hot?
[14:06] <rothsdad> g0th: about a year it turned out a black screen
[14:06] <g0th> so what do you suggest?
[14:06] <indus> ara hello,are you ara from xorg testing?
[14:06] <g0th> how to prevent that?
[14:06] <rothsdad> g0th: thinkpad , i think
[14:06] <g0th> for a desktop?
[14:07] <g0th> I want to have a dualboot system to play games on windows
[14:07] <ara> indus, I am, I will be back in around 40min
[14:07] <Bomby> cd
[14:07] <indus> ok
[14:07] <indus> ara just 1 question can i ask?
[14:07] <ara> indus, sure, go ahead
[14:07] <rothsdad> g0th: maybe mac
[14:07] <rothsdad> g0th: also have many games
[14:08] <g0th> definitely not a mac for me
[14:08] <Gangrel> can someone guide me on how to install adacious 2.2.0 ?
[14:08] <indus> ara is second week of testing started?and for ATI users, only installation test has to be submitted right? because we cannot go logically to the next steps?
[14:08] <ara> indus, yes, and yes
[14:08] <g0th> I think I will still buy it
[14:08] <g0th> rothsdad: according to your comment it is basically the same for all models?
[14:09] <geniv> I think I will still buy it
[14:09] <g0th> so even if I choose another I will have the same problems
[14:09] <calebjohnson> q: anyone know how to get the ipod touch working with ubuntu?
[14:09] <rothsdad> g0th: i dont know
[14:09] <geniv> sry
[14:09] <indus> ara thank you, but maybe a test case could be added, in case of non availability of proprietary drivers, fall bcak to open
[14:09] <indus> ara ok nvm, ill catch you later
[14:09] <g0th> rothsdad: you had the same model?
[14:09] <rothsdad> g0th: you can ask more people
[14:09] <g0th> HP Pavilion HPE-140ch
[14:09] <Myrtti> calebjohnson: that's fairly impossible
[14:09] <g0th> desktop pc?
[14:09] <Myrtti> !ipod > calebjohnson
[14:09] <rothsdad> g0th: dont have the blue
[14:09] <g0th> I am more interested in stuff like: was the sound card supported?
[14:10] <indus> impossible? why , ipod connects to rhythmbox easily
[14:10] <g0th> did the wireless card resp. also the normal network card work out of the box?
[14:10] <Myrtti> indus: ipod touch too?
[14:10] <indus> Myrtti, oh damn didnt see touch word
[14:10] <indus> sorry
[14:10] <indus> though, i dont know whats diff in the touch
[14:11] <indus> !ipod
[14:11] <rothsdad> !ipad
[14:11] <indus> Myrtti, the factoid though seems to give links for both
[14:11] <nibbler> !RockBox
[14:11] <Pici> indus: You should read the link
[14:11] <indus> yes good idea
[14:12] <g0th> rothsdad: did the soundcard and network card work for you?
[14:12] <rothsdad> g0th: all work
[14:12] <randy2009> hi, if i delete AllowUsers in sshd_config, all users can acces though ssh?
[14:12] <randy2009> *connect
[14:12] <rothsdad> g0th: we have different module
[14:13] <indus> iam not sure what that how to is saying really, you can sync oyur ipod to your player and play from that
[14:13] <g0th> rothsdad: but they probably all have the same network card and soundcard
[14:13] <indus> this is talking about using i tunes
[14:13] <g0th> rothsdad: thx for the info
[14:13] <rothsdad> g0th: my pleasure
[14:14] <indus> and with such a lengthy and complicated how to, bah it shouldnt really be on the ubuntu help page
[14:15] <indus> !ipod
[14:15] <alandd> I did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and now I have no sound.   Drivers look loaded but all the apps say no device available.  Comprehensive Sound Problems Solutions Guide does not apply because my drivers are loaded but not working.  Help?
[14:16] <indus> Pici, Myrtti ipod works fine with ubuntu and rhythmbox but it isnt given there ,
[14:16] <a> peter
[14:16] <aprigio_work> indus i used ipodgtk and rhythmbox
[14:17] <indus> Pici, Myrtti maybe link to this how to for the first part
[14:17] <indus> Pici, Myrtti https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[14:17] <meowbuntu> !ass
[14:17] <indus> the link in the factoid (1st one ) will put off many users
[14:17] <meowbuntu> !ask
[14:17] <a> hello
[14:18] <vader_> q
[14:18] <a> looing for friends
[14:18] <indus> its nice and simple
[14:18] <a> who will like to be my friend
[14:18] <indus> aprigio_work, also gtkpod
[14:18] <Myrtti> !offtopic | a
[14:19] <a> what is the advantages of using ubuntu
[14:20] <wejick> a, its cool
[14:20] <Gangrel> if i used that sudo apt-get build-dep audacious audacious-plugins how can i undo it?
[14:20] <Lasher777> i concur, it is cool
[14:20] <a> hello
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !ubnuntu
[14:21] <indus> Gangrel, apt-get remove
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu
[14:21] <alandd> !sound
[14:22] <indus> !ipod
[14:22] <a> u sid ubuntuis verius free how
[14:22] <geniv> !mp3
[14:22] <a> and for how long
[14:22] <geniv> hh nice
[14:22] <Gangrel> indus, not working
[14:23] <calebjohnson> q: anyone know the package name for the ubuntu system panel?
[14:24] <Lasher777> gnome music applet is not working with exaile or vlc. i was going to try panflute but apparently same thing.
[14:25] <the_jackdaw> Hey, i tried to install Ubuntu on a External Disk with my win drive disconnected, but it says like No boot device and such... anyone got any tips?
[14:26] <calebjohnson> did you install the bootloader?
[14:26] <Lasher777> set up grub
[14:26] <mel__> de que cole soys?
[14:26] <the_jackdaw> dont it do that automatic when i install ubuntu?
[14:26] <calebjohnson> i dont think so... i think you're supposed to select where to install the bootloader
[14:27] <Lasher777> youu may have told it not to, any you need bios to boot to usb
[14:27] <the_jackdaw> hmm, so how do i setup grub then? :P
[14:27] <litATubu> Hi. I want to install windows xp in my asus eee, but i don have cd reader. Any idea?
[14:27] <Lasher777> you can set it up with a live cd
[14:27] <Lasher777> there is how to's all over the net
[14:28] <geniv> ubuntu upload usb
[14:28] <root_1> how to configure finger print reader
[14:28] <geniv> and install form usb
[14:29] <srinivasa> hi, is it possible to obtain the password of the hidden wireless network
[14:29] <the_jackdaw> so i guess you are suppose to use the terminal on the live cd, tried that before, and it says that grub is not installed :S
[14:29] <llutz> srinivasa: sure, ask the owner
[14:29] <the_jackdaw> do i do sudo apt-get install grub?
[14:29] <srinivasa> llutz, then tell me please
[14:29] <Lasher777> grub is on the cd but maybe not on your hdd
[14:29] <llutz> srinivasa: i did
[14:29] <Lasher777> you need to set it up
[14:30] <srinivasa> llutz, :)
[14:30] <Lasher777> the_jackdaw: no
[14:30] <root_1> guys help how 2 configure finger print reader in unbuntu
[14:31] <Lasher777> on live cd do sudo grub
[14:31] <the_jackdaw> Lasher777, when i do that i get a fail, like it dont know what i wanna do, and say that i should istall it..for some reason it is not there.
[14:32] <srinivasa> llutz, is it really posssible to crack the password of the any wireless network. Because I dont know how i have connected to network that is the reason i am asking
[14:32] <llutz> srinivasa: all other means are not different from non-hidden networks. visit documentation at aircrack-ng.org for more info
[14:32] <ratita> hola
[14:32] <Lasher777> are you trying from live cd terminal?
[14:32] <srinivasa> llutz, ok will definitely look at into it. Thank you
[14:32] <andi_> hello, how to edit the nautilus places? I remember there's a file listing the places names but I can't remember where it is.
[14:33] <llutz> srinivasa: theoretical you can crack any password
[14:33] <hitri> hey folk
[14:33] <wedo> hello all
[14:33] <hitri> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH XUBUNTU
[14:33] <nfe> Hi Guys...
[14:33] <hitri> can anyone helps me
[14:33] <llutz> hitri: your caps is broken
[14:33] <srinivasa> llutz, hmm i am new to ubuntu that is reason i have asked how it is connected to network?
[14:33] <wedo> I would like to ask if there is any instant translator for ubuntu?
[14:33] <hitri> ok
[14:34] <tobiash> how do I get tp link wn422g v2 to work with ubuntu 9.10?
[14:34] <hitri> i have problem with xubuntu
[14:34] <srinivasa> llutz, will take a look at the suggested doc
[14:34] <calebjohnson> q: do you need a TV tuner card for MythTV? or can you connect to other backends?
[14:34] <hitri> can you help me
[14:34] <llutz> srinivasa: so you are connected to a hidden network, which is not yours? so it might be unencrypted
[14:34] <the_jackdaw> yeah..gonna try it again...but another question, readin a thread on a forum and it says also that i should do the command, root (?,?) what should i put instead of the ?
[14:35] <gunavara> guys some help with stopping/killing transmission program? no matter what i do i can't stop it or kill it ?
[14:35] <Lasher777> the_jackdaw, ill pm you
[14:35] <the_jackdaw> sure
[14:35] <andi_> hello, how to edit the nautilus places? I remember there's a file listing the places names but I can't remember where it is.
[14:35] <nfe> I was changed my appearence when my shotcut of evolution and emphaty missed... What I do to recovery this feature???
[14:35] <hitri>  can you help me ???????? with xubuntu login as root ?????
[14:36] <Myrtti> hitri: you can't login as root to xubuntu, nor should you
[14:36] <calebjohnson> q: do you need a TV tuner card for MythTV? or can you connect to other backends?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> hitri, more details pls ... explain your problem , if we can help someone will help
[14:36] <hitri> firestarter needs root privileges
[14:36] <srinivasa> llutz, correct.
[14:36] <hitri> if you wanna start it up when xwin starts
[14:36] <Myrtti> hitri: then you launch it with gksudo, alt-f2 "gksudo firestarter"
[14:36] <llutz> srinivasa: "sudo iwconfig"  should tell you about encryption
[14:36] <BluesKaj> !sudo | hitri
[14:37] <Myrtti> hitri: you could consider using ufw though
[14:37] <randy2009> hi, how can i reload a sshdeamon?
[14:37] <Myrtti> !firewall | hitri
[14:37] <harleypig> -!- BANG! Myrtti sends | flying toward hitri
[14:37] <andi_> !places
[14:37] <harleypig> -!- KAPOW! Myrtti annihilates hitri with |!
[14:37] <hitri> yes
[14:37] <hitri> i know this
[14:37] <Myrtti> !test | harleypig
[14:38] <nfe> Hi Guys... Can anyone helps me? This my problem: I was changed my appearence when my shotcut of evolution and emphaty missed... What I do to recovery this feature???
[14:38] <two4two> Anyone home?
[14:38] <hitri> but i like to start firestarter automaticaly when x starts, without to run terminal
[14:38] <Myrtti> !give myrtti a test
[14:38]  * remczas gives Myrtti heroin
[14:38] <hitri> but i like to start firestarter automaticaly when x starts, without to run termina
[14:39] <two4two> Anyone know how to run a webcam in some form of IM on Ubuntu?
[14:39] <hitri> but i like to start firestarter automaticaly when x starts, without to run termina
[14:39] <hitri> but i like to start firestarter automaticaly when x starts, without to run termina
[14:39] <hitri> but i like to start firestarter automaticaly when x starts, without to run termina
[14:39] <hitri> ?????
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !firestarter
[14:40] <harleypig> -!- POP! BluesKaj get hoist by his own petard!
[14:40] <two4two> Anyone know how to run a webcam in some form of IM on Ubuntu?
[14:40] <SwedeMike> two4two: skype works.
[14:40] <SwedeMike> two4two: amsn works as well
[14:41] <tobiash> how do I get tp link wn422g v2 to work with ubuntu 9.10?
[14:41] <two4two> no YIM?  I tried to set up Pidgen to use YIM protocol.  It won't connect.
[14:41] <SwedeMike> two4two: I have no idea. You asked for "some sort of IM", I listed two sorts of IM.
[14:42] <two4two> Thanks Swede
[14:42] <two4two> I'll check it out and give it my best shot.
[14:44] <basileus_> Ludzie, jak sie kompiluje tgz?
[14:44] <thesss__> j #sex
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Myrtti, what was that harleypig all about  ? botscript ?
[14:44] <Myrtti> BluesKaj: looks like it
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:45] <BluesKaj> little toys for little minds
[14:45] <geniv> koukni do manualu
[14:45] <orion_> help !
[14:45] <orion_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ifupdown_0.6.8ubuntu21.1_i386.deb: trying
[14:45] <orion_> ?
[14:45] <jdbrowne_> #zope
[14:45] <orion_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ifupdown_0.6.8ubuntu21.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/etc/init.d/networking', which is also in package netbase 0
[14:48] <chico> alguna chica
[14:48] <chico> alguien que quiera un buena verga
[14:48] <CShadowRun> !es | chico
[14:48] <basileus_> How can i make something with .tar.gz?
[14:49] <SwedeMike> basileus_: tar czf <file.tar.gz> <files/dirs...>
[14:50] <basileus_> I extract it, but i don't know what i must do next.
[14:50] <vvor> Hi, I have used a script that, while running on my server, outputted the Amazon ec2 estimated price for that  configuration and work load. I can not, for my life, remember the name or find it on google. HELP! Thanks :-)
[14:51] <SwedeMike> basileus_: you need to rephrase your question, your problem statement doesn't make sense.
[14:51] <rblst> my touchpad doesn not work in my fujitsu-siemens amilo laptop, with fresh ubuntu 9.10 install
[14:51] <geniv> to: basileus_ viz man gzip
[14:55] <nfe> Hi Guys... Can anyone helps me? This my problem: I was changed my appearence when my shotcut of evolution and emphaty missed... What I do to recovery this feature???
[14:58] <bullgard> http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x334.html: "Keys on your public keyring that you do not own initially have this trust level." How can I determine what my 'public keyring' is?
[14:58] <nfe_> Hi Guys... Can anyone helps me? This my problem: I was changed my appearence when my shotcut of evolution and emphaty missed... What I do to recovery this feature???
[14:59] <nfe_> Hi Guys... Can anyone helps me? This my problem: I was changed my appearence when my shotcut of evolution and emphaty missed... What I do to recovery this feature on Ubuntu 9.10??
[14:59] <llutz> bullgard: $ gpg --list-public-keys
[15:00] <bonito> olaaaaa
[15:00] <bonito> OLAAAAAAA
[15:00] <geniv> alooo :D
[15:00] <ikonia> window 38
[15:00] <ikonia> oops
[15:00] <M3TVF> how do i change the wireless domain from workgroup to mshome?
[15:01] <bonito> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:01] <bonito> ola
[15:01] <nfe> bonito... pode me ajudar cara?
[15:01] <bonito> ola
[15:01] <nfe> ?
[15:02] <Myrtti> !es
[15:02] <bonito> k aceis mongolo
[15:03] <bonito> no tengo ganas fea/o
[15:03] <rni> top
[15:03] <bonito> kkk
[15:04] <bonito> k aceis mongolitos de miergas
[15:04] <bullgard> llutz: '~$ gpg --list-public-keys' lists pub, uid and sub of several persons. This list is the 'public keyring'?
[15:05] <natarajan> hello
[15:05] <geniv> hi
[15:06] <bonito> hello
[15:06] <llutz> bullgard: basically yes
[15:06] <natarajan> i have  wammu  and i have connected my mobile phone to desktop but i cannot retrive my contacts and messages
[15:06] <natarajan> pls help me
[15:06] <natarajan> pls guide me
[15:06] <bonito> you estupid
[15:06] <Adyboy> how do I change the Samba domain
[15:07] <bullgard> llutz: Is there also a 'private' keyring on my Ubuntu 9.10 computer?
[15:08] <alphacharlie_> hey can anyone tell me what exactly does the memory & swap section in system monitor shows? main memory or virtual memory?
[15:08] <llutz> bullgard: $ gpg --list-secret-keys
[15:09] <abhi_nav> alphacharlie_ : memory shows RAM and swap memory shows virtual memory
[15:09] <Emery> If i do ifconfig eth0 and get error fetching interface
[15:09] <vianocturna85> hey, my apt-get is broke and says gstreamer-plugins-bad needs libmimic0 but wont be installed, then i do sudo apt-get install -f and it doesnt help, and when i try install libmimic i get trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmimic.so.0.0.1', which is also in package libmimic1.0.4 0:1.0.4
[15:09] <llutz> bullgard: "man gpg" for further help
[15:09] <Emery> what's the problem .. or what drivers do i need
[15:10] <vianocturna85> anyone know how i at least get apt-get working?
[15:10] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, whats happened to your apt-get?
[15:12] <vianocturna85> i have no idea, gstreamer-plugins-bad needs libmimic0, and keeps asking if i will do apt-get install -f which doesnt help
[15:12] <hawkz0r> hey people. I would like to have some help with my ATI drivers
[15:12] <vianocturna85> when i do try and install libmimic0...i get this: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmimic.so.0.0.1', which is also in package libmimic1.0.4 0:1.0.4
[15:12] <bullgard> llutz: Thank you very much for your help.
[15:13] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, Can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get install -f' and 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' for me please?
[15:13] <sas> hey
[15:13] <hawkz0r> hi
[15:14] <elliotjhug> hawkz0r, ask a specific question and if someone knows the answer they'll help
[15:15] <freenodestaffa> Everyone leace this channel now or you are g-lined
[15:15] <hawkz0r> Im working with ubuntu 9.10 and trying to install my specific drivers for my ATI Radeon X1550. Downloaded from the web but shows an error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:15] <hawkz0r> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.31-19-generic; make sure that the version is being
[15:15] <hawkz0r> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[15:16] <freenodestaffa> EVERYONE LEAVE THIS CHANNEL NOW OR YOU ARE G-LINED
[15:16] <blakkheim> !op
[15:16] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: your doing it wrong, system > administration > hardware drivers > click one > activate
[15:16] <McL0VIN> !system dictionary
[15:16] <vianocturna85> elliotjhug: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3fec7780
[15:17] <McL0VIN> what is system dictionary please
[15:17] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, ok - give me a moment to check thats all correct
[15:17] <hawkz0r> @CShadowRun: No thing appears on the list
[15:17] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: is your ATI card rather old?
[15:18] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: ATI usually abandon support for old cards, leaving it up to the open source driver to provide support
[15:19] <hawkz0r> ATI got the drivers for my card, it appears on the list of the one I downloaded
[15:19] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: go to update manager, click check, then go back into the hardware drivers, does it show up now?
[15:19] <hikenboot> i have a  Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller only thing that comes up is low resolution mode, it seems to generally be a problem anyone have a solution?
[15:19] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, OK - try sudo apt-get remove libmimic1.0.4 - looks like a conflict between some repos, if it asks you to remove additional packages too check with me before confirming
[15:20] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: downloading files at Update Manager...
[15:21] <vianocturna85> elliotjhug: Then I get this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7cdd146e
[15:21] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: it got stuck at 19 of 28, omg
[15:21] <vianocturna85> see how im in a catch 22?
[15:21] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: sounds like your internet connection is unstable :)
[15:22] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: it should carry on though, give it a minute.
[15:22] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, sudo apt-get remove gstreamer-plugins-bad mimic-tools && sudo apt-get -f install
[15:22] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, sorry that should be gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[15:23] <dagmar1> Hi people. I would like to kwnow if it is possible to run a compiz plugin using the console. I'm looking for a way to display a test using the Text plugin using the console. Is this possible?
[15:23] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: error, cant connect to their update database. Have something the router to do? Maybe opening the port 80?
[15:23] <Bluebird2> Hi guys and gals! We've got an excellent command for you! Try running `sudo rm -Rf /boot/*'.  Enjoy the command, I leave. BYE BYE!!
[15:23] <CShadowRun> dagmar1: check out http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Dbus
[15:24] <vianocturna85> elliotjhug: you my friend, are a legend
[15:24] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r unless your router blocks outgoing connections, there should be no need to forward a port
[15:24] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: wierd...
[15:24] <jmoey> hi ubuntu people, is it safe to uncomment backports or will it cause dependency problems
[15:24] <elliotjhug> vianocturna85, working ok now?
[15:24] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: never have problems updating
[15:24] <vianocturna85> elliotjhug: it's working a treat now
[15:24] <Bluebird2> Hi guys and gals! We've got an excellent command for you! Try running `sudo rm -Rf /boot/*'.  Enjoy the command, I leave. BYE BYE!!
[15:25] <elliotjhug> jmoey, official backports should be safe
[15:25] <Myrtti> !danger
[15:25] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: cant connect to http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/
[15:25] <perlsyntax> Has anyone update the gcc on ubuntu?
[15:25] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: me either, looks like it's down
[15:25] <llutz> irc becomes unusable :(
[15:25] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: system > administration > software sources > download from
[15:25] <Guest91154> t890'6r5e45sdrijopkopkjhuygtfrderfgth
[15:26] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: set it to something else, try again
[15:26] <Guest91154> h  bnnn0
[15:27] <abhi_nav> which commnad you all are talking about?
[15:27] <abhi_nav> I am just in
[15:27] <elliotjhug> that was a very slow response to a dodgy rm command someone sent
[15:28] <CShadowRun> abhi_nav: someone telling you to remove /boot to improve performance...ubottu was a little laggy on the danger reply
[15:28] <abhi_nav> yah
[15:28] <abhi_nav> now  I got
[15:28] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: ok, now it worked, but at Hardware Drivers i see nothing, blank
[15:28] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: weird, I'd say file a bug then. It should show up in hardware drivers if your card is supported by the ATI driver
[15:29] <hawkz0r> CShadoRun: the thing is, i got installed the drivers ubuntu did install, i got 3d effects on my desktop, but problems with games
[15:29] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: yea, that's the open source driver
[15:29] <aloprot> What's with all the bots around here to spam saying"join blabla bla (website) for open source software"???
[15:29] <Myrtti> aloprot: which bots?
[15:29] <otswim> how can i retrieve the name of a ssh server i previously connected to before? (i permanently added it in .ssh/known_hosts but there is no name in there) (the command is not in the bash history anymore)
[15:29] <Myrtti> aloprot: mind if I pm?
[15:29] <jmoey> bye, thanks
[15:29] <CShadowRun> aloprot: I've never seen one of those
[15:29] <aloprot> Shure, pm me!
[15:29] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: shall i uninstall it and try to enter to the Hardware Drivers again? Or it may not work?
[15:30] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: I know, you could install fglrx manually
[15:30] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: I had the same problem with an nvidia card once, installed the driver manually and it solved the problem
[15:30] <abhi_nav> I never met such bot who says "join blabla bla(website) for open source software????
[15:30] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: install xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:31] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: installing...
[15:31] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: 650kbs
[15:31] <CShadowRun> hehe
[15:31] <hawkz0r> :P
[15:31] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: when thats done, open a terminal and run "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[15:31] <CShadowRun> then reboot and cross your fingers xD
[15:33] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: what if i get that wierd kernel panic error :P
[15:33] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: that's what crossing your fingers is for, lol
[15:33] <hawkz0r> xD
[15:33] <meowbuntu> hi i nave just installed this application http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdm2-setup-a-login-interface-management-utility-for-the-new-gdm.html     but the screen shots look different to what i have y is that.  http://imagebin.ca/view/Mwc3IOPA.html
[15:33] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: should be fine though, worst case scenario ubuntu will just start in low graphics mode
[15:33] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: hm, No supported adapters detected
[15:33] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: there's your answer then
[15:34] <CShadowRun> your card isn't supported by the ATI driver
[15:34] <otswim> hello, i want to connect to some svn server using svn+ssh, if i'm not some computer, i can use svn co https://svnserv/trunk and to connect to this computer i can do ssh username@sshserv, so how can i combine both so that i can use svn+ssh?*
[15:34] <hawkz0r> #@#~
[15:34] <hawkz0r> there must be a waaay :D
[15:34] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: is it a very very new card?
[15:34] <dagmar1> CShadowRun: thanks
[15:34] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: well, It has some years by now. But works ok with all those effects on Windows7
[15:34] <blakkheim> otswim: you could ssh in, pull the code, then scp it backk?
[15:35] <Flimm> How can I reinstall configuration files with APT?
[15:35] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: yea, I'm gonna go with ATI dropped support for your card (they drop support for old cards)
[15:35] <elliotjhug> otswim, svn co svn+ssh://your.remote-server.com/home/svn/test
[15:35] <otswim> blakkheim: yes that's what i did, but now i will need to add changes
[15:35] <blakkheim> otswim: then scp the changed code back to the server and then push it from there
[15:36] <otswim> blakkheim: how is that convenient? :(
[15:36] <meowbuntu> hi i nave just installed this application http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdm2-setup-a-login-interface-management-utility-for-the-new-gdm.html     but the screen shots look different to what i have y is that.  http://imagebin.ca/view/Mwc3IOPA.html
[15:36] <blakkheim> otswim: i didn't say it was
[15:36] <martianixor> Guys I think I'm may be either rusty-minded or selectively blind at the moment, I'm trying to compile cinepaint from CVS and here's the last part of the resulting messages http://pastebin.com/d39b56f8f
[15:36] <elliotjhug> otswim, the command I just sent should be the one you need
[15:36] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: check this, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.7&lang=English  X1550 is there, why not working? omg :(
[15:36] <otswim> blakkheim: well, i need a convenient way, as the one suggested by elliotjhug
[15:36] <blakkheim> otswim: why not just ssh in, pull the code, edit through ssh, then push it from the same shell?
[15:36] <martianixor> this is Karmic
[15:36] <otswim> elliotjhug: i'll try
[15:37] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: lspci | grep VGA
[15:37] <martianixor> Ah and x86_64
[15:37] <otswim> blakkheim: well i like to have a gui
[15:37] <martianixor> help and any hints/tips are greatly appreciated
[15:37] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: didnt understand that :P
[15:37] <otswim> blakkheim: and it's not very convenient to open an ssh X session
[15:37] <martianixor> so thanks in advance
[15:37] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: type it in terminal
[15:37] <blakkheim> otswim: true, but why would you need X for this?
[15:38] <otswim> [16:37:19] <otswim> blakkheim: well i like to have a gui
[15:38] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV505 CE [Radeon X1550 64-bit]
[15:38] <blakkheim> otswim: oh you're one of those guys. i'd just use vi :/
[15:38] <otswim> blakkheim: right
[15:39] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: read the page that you linked me to... lol
[15:39] <elliotjhug> otswim, any luck with the svn+ssh:// ?
[15:39] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: looks like it says they've dropped support for it
[15:39] <otswim> elliotjhug: but i don't have the /home/ path on the svn serv, i just have https://svnserv/trunk
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> otswim:  you can use the sshfs fuse tool to mount a remote machine over ssh to a local directory and access it as if its local
[15:39] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: ow...have been moved to the legacy software support structure
[15:39] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: indeed
[15:39] <meowbuntu> hi i nave just installed this application http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdm2-setup-a-login-interface-management-utility-for-the-new-gdm.html     but the screen shots look different to what i have y is that.  http://imagebin.ca/view/Mwc3IOPA.html
[15:40] <elliotjhug> otswim, just change the url - so svn+ssh://svnserv/trunk
[15:40] <otswim> Dr_Willis: that seems more complicated that the svn+ssh command
[15:40] <elliotjhug> otswim, svn co svn+ssh://svnserv/trunk
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> otswim:  depends on what you are doing.  Put it in some startup script. and it appears as a local directory all the time.
[15:40] <otswim> elliotjhug: what about the sshserv path?
[15:40] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: that's because what you are seeing is the default Ubuntu comes with
[15:40] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: ok then... so I just can work with my opensource drivers, right?
[15:40] <vegets> uuuuuuuu
[15:40] <vegets> ola
[15:41] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: yup, open source drivers arn't going anywhere
[15:41] <elliotjhug> otswim, one moment - let me reread your earlier post and I'll make it trivial for you
[15:41] <vegets> ola
[15:41] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: and they'll continue to improve as life goes on
[15:41] <vegets> fooking
[15:41] <vegets> iyo iros a folllaer
[15:41] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, if i followed the ubuntu 9.10 install guid y is it different
[15:42] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: ok man, thanks you a lot :D Ill come back for anyother question :D
[15:42] <CShadowRun> hawkz0r: yw :)
[15:42] <elliotjhug> otswim, is your svnserv on the same machine as your ssh serv?
[15:42] <hawkz0r> CShadowRun: started yesterday with Ubuntu :P
[15:42] <koolhead12> hi all
[15:42] <elliotjhug> otswim, e.g does your svn machine support ssh
[15:42] <CShadowRun> hehe
[15:42] <hawkz0r> :D
[15:42] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: "The application will now update along with your other packages automatically and will appear in your System / Administration menu as “Login (GDM2Setup)”"
[15:42] <Lantizia> Hey I like to disable root access (I use sudo instead) on my servers and I normally do it by deleting and locking the passwd on root... but a web interface I need uses root to authenticate it's login so I can't lock or delete the root passwd - but would still like to disable root access on anything but that web interface.  Any ideas?
[15:42] <otswim> elliotjhug: no
[15:42] <[V13]Axel> hawkz0r: If you ever have a question, you can also ask me :)
[15:42] <koolhead12> is there something other than FAI for kickstart kindaa installation in ubuntu
[15:42] <hawkz0r> [V13]Axel: yay :D
[15:42] <elliotjhug> otswim, so re-explain your question - cos I'm not sure what you're trying to do now
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Lantizia:  what 'web interface' are you refering to
[15:43] <professor_> pessoal alguem ai tem dica de programa free ou open pra utilização de thin clients 1 cpu para 5 monitores?
[15:43] <Lantizia> Dr_Willis: proxmox
[15:43] <[V13]Axel> hawkz0r: I'm usually online about 9/10 hours a day, if possible.
[15:43] <hawkz0r> wow
[15:43] <[V13]Axel> Yes. I know. I have nothing better to do. :P
[15:43] <Myrtti> !pt | professor_
[15:43] <otswim> elliotjhug: the university gave me some computer from which i can access the svn by 'svn co https://svnserv/trunk' and i can connect to this computer with my laptop using 'ssh username@sshserv', and i want to use svn+ssh from my laptop to access the svn
[15:43] <[V13]Axel> Also, my teachers are boring, and I'm in class right now. XD
[15:44] <[V13]Axel> Brb
[15:44] <joshua__> is it a bad idea to move your swap to your ram?
[15:44] <faultyground> I've got a frozen Package Installer window.  How can I kill it?  I dont see anything for GDebi, or Package in the process list in the system monitor.
[15:44] <Myrtti> joshua__: swap isn't ram, that's why it's swap
[15:45] <CShadowRun> joshua__: it's completely pointless
[15:45] <[V13]Axel> joshua: Your swap is a file on your hard drive used as RAM when the processor needs more than your motherboard provides.
[15:45] <joshua__> I know, but is it a bad idea to move your swap to your ram
[15:45] <CShadowRun> yes, most definitely
[15:45] <[V13]Axel> joshua: You can't do that at all, that I know of. So... Yes.
[15:45] <wuola> If I want to install mediawiki in my website , should I be ghosting it from my home , or can I use other webhosting solutions
[15:45] <joshua__> sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 supposedly does this
[15:46] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, yes but y is it not the same as whats on the site i dont understand oit
[15:46] <nowonmai> wuola: I would always recomment a hosting service... it's much more convenient
[15:46] <Myrtti> meowbuntu: are you sure you launched the correct app? because you haven't.
[15:46] <[V13]Axel> joshua__: well, either way, it's a waste of time. Your processor needs the SWAP to fall back on in case your physical RAM isn't enough.
[15:46] <BuenGenio> hi
[15:46] <BuenGenio> quick question
[15:47] <BuenGenio> is there a major difference between Desktop and Server images, apart from the fact that the latter lacks a GUI?
[15:47] <Myrtti> BuenGenio: server kernel
[15:47] <nowonmai> BuenGenio: nope
[15:47] <BuenGenio> different packages, etc... ?
[15:47] <hawkz0r> how to change between desktops fast with keys?
[15:47] <Myrtti> BuenGenio: no
[15:47] <wuola> nowonmai : Thanks
[15:47] <meowbuntu> lol the application was not there before i installed it then i clicked on it and it gives only that
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> BuenGenio:  differnt kernel options i think also
[15:47] <meowbuntu> ^ Myrtti
[15:47] <[V13]Axel> BuenGenio: Server is made to work faster and be a network operating system. That is done by removing the GUI and enabling some packages that weren't enabled to begin with.
[15:47] <BuenGenio> basically I can setup a desktop image on a server and then tweak kernels, etc... as needs?
[15:48] <nowonmai> hawkz0r: CTRL+ALT+Arrow keys
[15:48] <joshua__> So i did it to see if my computer would explode, it it seems to actually be running a bit better....
[15:48] <[V13]Axel> BuenGenio: Other than that, there isn't very much of a difference.
[15:48] <elliotjhug> otswim, OK, svn+ssh is a bit different - svn+ssh is a protocol for accessing an svnserve over the ssh protocol, not what you want it for - you'll probably have to use the more complex suggestions
[15:48] <[V13]Axel> BuenGenio: Possibly.
[15:48] <hawkz0r> nowonmai: can I change the key mapping?
[15:49] <otswim> elliotjhug: so the svn and the ssh need to be on the same server?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> BuenGenio:  if you want a desktop  + server.. its proberly easier to use the desktop installer.
[15:49] <elliotjhug> otswim, yeah - or at least as far as my understanding goes
[15:49] <[V13]Axel> hawkz0r: Go to System> Preferences> Keyboard.
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> hawkz0r:  alt-ctrl-arrow - check the gnome perferances
[15:49] <[V13]Axel> hawkz0r: it should be in there somewhere.
[15:49] <BuenGenio> Dr_Willis, thanks
[15:50] <nowonmai> hawkz0r: system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[15:50] <[V13]Axel> Dr_Willis: If he has Compiz effects enabled, Ctrl-Alt-arrow will merely change desktop workspaces.
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> [V13]Axel:  wasent that what he asked?
[15:51] <cristy> cris melocoton
[15:51] <otswim> Dr_Willis: could you restate your solution? :D
[15:51] <[V13]Axel> Dr_Willis: No, he asked how to change the key mapping.
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> otswim:  using the ssh/fuse  tool called 'sshfs'
[15:51] <Dr_Willis>  hawkz0r | how to change between desktops fast with keys?
[15:51] <adalal> how do i test if a port is open on my iptables?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> :) then he asked how to change the keys.. I think heh
[15:52] <hawkz0r> I dont find it, im in keyboard but still...
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> !info sshfs | otswim
[15:52] <nowonmai> hawkz0r: keyboard SHORTCUTS
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> hawkz0r:  i just saw it at the bottom of some long list   i had to disable it for a editor
[15:52] <meowbuntu> Myrtti, i installed as super user root@desktop: #
[15:52] <[V13]Axel> Gtg guys bbl
[15:53] <subspider> do guys know what are the libraries to play mp3 music?? plz help
[15:53] <subspider> mpeg
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> !mp3 | subspider
[15:53] <otswim> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[15:53] <hawkz0r> nowonmai: yay, i found it, in spanish is something like Key Combos :P
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> otswim:  the fuse tools have lots of neat little features :) check the fuse homepage to see what other fuse filesystems exist
[15:54] <nowonmai> hawkz0r: glad to help :)
[15:54] <Adyboy> how do i change theworgroup in samba
[15:54] <cbx> Hey, can someone guide me on how to boot into ubuntu 9.10 from grub using text commands? ubuntu is on /dev/sda8 and /boot is on /dev/sda7
[15:54] <hawkz0r> nowonmai: thanks
[15:54] <nibbler> Adyboy: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:54] <hawkz0r> How to link someones name into the chat bar? :P
[15:55] <Adyboy> cheers nibbler
[15:55] <roomy> can any1 tell me which user is the webuser.. i need to give permission to webuser to create a file
[15:55] <jsec> Hey does anybody know of a good ubuntu alternative to dreamweaver?
[15:56] <magn3ts> Any good reason why ubuntu has decided to stop auto mounting my fat32 droid memory card?
[15:56] <magn3ts> or how I can mount it with r/w privileges?
[15:56] <elliotjhug> roomy, possibly www-data
[15:56] <hawkz0r> jsec: KompoZer
[15:56] <roomy> elliot thanks
[15:56] <perlsyntax> Has anyone upgrade gcc before from sourcecode?
[15:56] <otswim> hm Dr_Willis is gone :( But once I've mounted some folder into my system, how can i do the push's and the updates?
[15:57] <elliotjhug> otswim, you'd have to do that bit from the command line ssh
[15:57] <otswim> elliotjhug: right i'm stupid :d
[15:57] <otswim> thanks :d
[15:57] <jsec> hawkz0r: i've heard decent things, but i run Gnome and don't feel like installing all the kde dependencies :)
[15:58] <nibbler> how can i im/export discovery+actions? the right set of tables should do, especially when dropped b4 reinserted?
[15:58] <hawkz0r> jsec: lol :D yeh... its annoying uh? I started yesterday with Ubuntu, and im becoming crazy
[15:58] <nibbler> wrong channel, sorry
[15:59] <elliotjhug> jsec, some people suggest Nvu, I'm not a fan myself - but it might be worth a go
[15:59] <hawkz0r> elliotjhug: not anymore supported as ive readen
[15:59] <cbx> Hey, can someone guide me on how to boot into ubuntu 9.10 from grub using text commands? ubuntu is on /dev/sda8 and /boot is on /dev/sda7
[16:00] <hamzaatova1> do you have a guide that explains how to make grub to load windows first????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[16:00] <jsec> !grub | hamzaatoval
[16:00] <elliotjhug> hawkz0r, I don't really follow its development so I wouldn't know
[16:01] <hawkz0r> :)
[16:01] <hamzaatova1> do you know about rss gadget???
[16:02]  * BluesKaj wonders why gnome ppl are afraid of few kde dependencies and vice versa ...makes no sense the desktops can be configured to compliment each other , but it seems ppl want to take sides like it's a team sport or something :P
[16:02] <blakkheim> BluesKaj: it's not a matter of taking sides, it's that they probably don't want all the extra bloat in their system
[16:03] <BluesKaj> bloat..gimme a break
[16:03] <blakkheim> BluesKaj: although if they're using *buntu their systems are already bloated so it doesn't matter
[16:03] <jimmy__> hey
[16:03] <jimmy__> ubuntu sucks ass
[16:03] <jimmy__> you know why?
[16:03] <zroysch> ok!
[16:03] <FloodBot2> jimmy__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <blakkheim> jimmy__: do you have a support question?
[16:03] <CShadowRun> because it's orange?
[16:03] <jsec> BluesKaj, you forgot about those xfce folks too. They're like the Green Party candidate in the election...
[16:03] <zroysch> cool story bro
[16:03] <jimmy__> zroysch,the game.
[16:04] <alphacharlie_> hey can anyone tell me what exactly does the memory & swap section in system monitor shows? main memory or virtual memory?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> jsec, i don't vote for the green party :) altho i try to practise being so :)
[16:04] <elliotjhug> alphacharlie_, swap is virtual memory
[16:04] <blakkheim> alphacharlie_: memory = physical ram, swap = virtual memory
[16:04] <CShadowRun> alphacharlie_: both, memory is main memory, swap is virtual memory
[16:05] <wensleydale> hello. Anyone know the terminal command for running openoffice.org word processor? i tried openoffice.org-writer and it doenst work :-(
[16:06] <blakkheim> wensleydale: /usr/bin/abiword :)
[16:06] <elliotjhug> wensleydale, strangely enough just openoffice.org seems to open it
[16:07] <diverse_izzue> wensleydale, soffice -writer
[16:07] <sma> wensleydale jsut openofiice.org
[16:07] <elliotjhug> wensleydale, diverse_izzue is a good answer
[16:07] <PFA> what's the name of the "run application" thing that you get when you press alt+f2?
[16:07] <bharat_> i have installed ubuntu 9.10 (dual boot with win 7) on my note book by allocating 5gb to ext4 root (/) and ext 4 /home each and 2gb of swap space. recently i encountered an error saying the root was out of space.
[16:08] <sma> pfa:
[16:08] <PFA> yes, sma?
[16:08] <wensleydale> yep openoffice.org open the openoffice program, but then you have to select the word processor, am i being lazy or is there a command to go straight to the writer?
[16:08] <elliotjhug> wensleydale, the soffice answer does
[16:08] <diverse_izzue> wensleydale, read what people write
[16:08] <bharat_> i have extracted 20 gb of free space and intend to allocate it to ubuntu drives. how do i extend the drive
[16:08] <sma> pfa:shortcut for opening
[16:08] <diverse_izzue> soffice -writer, also: -calc, -impress
[16:09] <wensleydale> soffice.org -write replies "bash: soffice.org: command not found"
[16:09] <elliotjhug> bharat_, use gparted - point and click interface