[00:00] <Scama> !de\
[00:00] <Scama> !de
[00:00] <Scama> !auth
[00:00] <LloydBanks> :))
[00:00] <Scama> !ro linuxgate`
[00:00] <Scama> !ro
[00:00] <Scama> :))
[00:00] <linuxgate`> :-))))))
[00:00] <roadfish> !zh
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> whoever: which email client?
[00:01] <whoever> ActionParsnip: gmail web ui no client
[00:01] <LjL> this channel is about Ubuntu support, and in English. please stick to that. last warning. also, /msg the bot in private.
[00:01] <LjL> Scama: stop
[00:01] <justinfront_> Hi I downloaded installl files for haXe and extracted I have just installed ubuntu 64 on a mac via virtual drive but not sure how to open the file - newbie to linux
[00:01] <LjL> Scama: i just explained why.
[00:01] <LjL> Scama: this channel is about Ubuntu support, and in English. please stick to that. last warning. also, /msg the bot in private.
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> whoever: does it happen the same in all browsers?
[00:02] <Juv1228> aBound, a whatnow?
[00:02] <LjL> !bot > Scama
[00:02] <aBound> brb
[00:02] <tech936> ok im looking for channel Operators for my channel it will be a chat area for users on my private server if your interested please private me
[00:02] <aBound> Juv1228, www.system76.com
[00:02] <aBound> brb gotta reboot
[00:02] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i found a email cups driver  but is to new to be in the repos, do you know anything about it http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsemailptr/
[00:02] <roadfish> !es
[00:02] <LjL> !ot | tech936
[00:02] <linuxgate`> Spam Scama
[00:03] <LjL> roadfish: please stop that.
[00:03] <FloodBot1> Scama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <tech936> sorry my bad didn't really see anything wrong with recruiting my bad wont happen again
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> whoever: do you click the print button in the gmail UI or use file->print in the browser?
[00:04] <aBound> Back.
[00:04] <justinfront_> hi guy's I am not sure if I can partially install haXe in 64bit ubuntu or not.
[00:04] <roadfish> LjL:ok, sorry ... I was just curious about other channels for Linux. I just wanted see their conversations.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !info haxe
[00:04] <LjL> roadfish: fine, but please /msg the bot in private to investigate it
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> justinfront_: seems to be available
[00:04] <flowerpot> justinfront_, only one way to find out
[00:05] <roadfish> LjL: ok thanks ... use /msg
[00:05] <justinfront_> I downloaded and extracted but not sure how to get it to run I have tried open but nothing happens
[00:05] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i have used ctl+p and file> Print both same result
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> whoever: what browsers have you tried?
[00:07] <whoever> ActionParsnip:  chrome and FF
[00:08] <fission6> how do i sync my time
[00:09] <student> how can i restore the factory settings to my laptop
[00:09] <tech936> so i know im not allowed to recruit but anyone interested ?
[00:10] <justinfront_> The link address for linux installer for haXe is http://haxe.org/file/hxinst-linux.tgz  it's like a cross platform language a bit like java/c++/as3 but also has functional language overtones, compiled by ocaml, I wanted to try using in on linux, maybe I should try 32bit ubuntu?  Or maybe I should try compiling from source, how would I get to a terminal in the latest ubuntu and to get ocaml...
[00:10] <justinfront_> ...and gcc?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> whoever: try the print button actually in the web UI rather than file -> print
[00:10] <tech936> student what os is your laptop
[00:12] <shadykhan> is there a way to change permissions to the folder and the subfolders?
[00:12] <justinfront_> would it be better to use a different linux installation, not seeing easy access to a terminal?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: look into  chmod and chown
[00:12] <shadykhan> Actionparsnip, im using chmod but it only changes the folder i target
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> justinfront_: install guake (I assum Gnome desktop0 and you can hide and show it with a shortcut key
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> justinfront_: or use CTRL+ALT+T to show the terminal
[00:12] <tech936> shadykhan
[00:12] <tech936> in what os
[00:13] <shadykhan> ubuntu
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: add the -R option for (r)ecursive
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: and it will do the stuff below
[00:13] <whoever> adan0s: wher is the print button  in the gmail ui ? i can't seem to find it in the new ui and never used it in the old
[00:13] <shadykhan> ActionParsnip, Thank you where do i put -r right after chmod?
[00:14] <Metroshica> I'm trying to save a grep output as a bash variable by using the command $value = grep '[0-9]\{8\}' $input
[00:14] <Metroshica> , where value is the variable I want to save it to, and input is the variable containing the file's name. I'm new to bash, so could someone let me know what I"m doing wrong
[00:14] <student_> how can i restore the factory settings to my laptop
[00:14] <student_> linux ubuntu xfce gnome or some like that
[00:15] <student_> linux ubuntu xfce gnome or some like that
[00:15] <acerimmer> student: you mean the windows factory settings??
[00:15] <endafy> my left bar is getting cramped with all the applications I use most often, how do I put icons on the desktop?
[00:15] <shadykhan> thanks i got it
[00:15] <student_> how can i restore the factory settings to my laptop
[00:16] <endafy> I wish I could right click on an icon and put a shortcut on the effin desktop!
[00:16] <Metroshica> , where value is the variable I want to save it to, and input is the variable containing the file's name.   Log out/log on and you'll have to rebuild all configurations, settings and profiles
[00:18] <endafy> I want to so badly, drag an icon onto my desktop and have it stay!
[00:18] <endafy> why is this impossible
[00:18] <acerimmer> student_: or create a new user.  it'll be defaulted.
[00:19] <Chotaz> Hey can, how can I use the shell to check a directory for sfv files and use cksfv on them?
[00:19] <bsmith093> does anyone knoe of a lossless cbr cbz to pdf converter?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: it's -R  not -r
[00:20] <Chotaz> Hey guys*
[00:20] <student_> i have an older version of ubuntu
[00:21] <whoever> ActionParsnip: wher is the print button  in the gmail ui ? i can't seem to find it in the new ui and never used it in the old
[00:21] <MaxHR> Hello, just tried installing takeoff from http://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 and got an error that kdelibs is not installable, any ideas to fix?
[00:22] <MK13> what is the way to stop the kernel(?) messages from being printed to the console? I had solved this awhile ago with a different system, but I can't seem to find anything on it now.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> whoever: to the right of the subject line in an open email...
[00:24] <drako689> anyone can help?
[00:24] <drako689> in install php5-xsl in ubuntu?
[00:24] <drako689> please
[00:24] <drako689> ....
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !info php5-xsl
[00:24] <drako689> ok
[00:24] <drako689> the problem is
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> drako689: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install php5-xsl
[00:25] <drako689> but
[00:25] <doates> hi can anyone help me please i am fairly inexperienced with ubuntyu
[00:25] <drako689> appears that http://pastebin.com/wFaERctc
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> doates: ask away
[00:25] <drako689> and i can't upgrade my php version
[00:25] <doates> thankyou kind sir
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> drako689: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[00:25] <drako689> i need to stay in the installed version
[00:25] <drako689> understand?
[00:26] <doates> for some reason i have trouble consistenly connecting to my default network so i wish to uninstall and reinstall windows, but when i put my windows disc in it doesnt autorun and clicking setup.exe does not work
[00:26] <drako689> ActionParsnip i can't upgrade the php5 version
[00:26] <drako689> i only need to install php5-xsl
[00:26] <drako689> can  i do that?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> doates: setup.exe won't work from ubuntu, you need to boot to the cd
[00:27] <triforcemike> how do i restore factory settings on my laptop
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> drako689: the app needs those versions to run
[00:27] <doates> i have the disc in the drive but when i restart computer it doesnt autorun
[00:27] <robertf> Hello
[00:27] <triforcemike> hi
[00:27] <acerimmer> triforcemike: create new sudo account.  login.  all settings will be default'd
[00:28] <drako689> ActionParsnip but i gona have problems if i upgrade php5 version?
[00:28] <robertf> i need to seed torrent files. I'm using transmissioncli. How to do it? transmissioncli file1.torrent file2.torrent?
[00:28] <acerimmer> triforcemike: or go to the /home, display and delete hidden folders.  logout/login and rebuild settings, configs, profiles
[00:28] <whoever> ActionParsnip: that seemd to work but i get something like 26pt font , is that adjustable
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> whoever: not sure there, try in setting in gmail
[00:29] <doates> ActionParsnip: is there a cmd that will let me boot from disk?
[00:30] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i don't see a print settings link, i'll google for it and let you know
[00:30] <Chotaz> nvm "find «path» -iname '*.sfv' -exec cksfv -g {} \;" worked :D
[00:31] <doates> ;|
[00:31] <MK13> Alright, found the offending file for the flooding of kernel messages. It's in the /etc/sysctl.conf file. A line specifically stated that :) Oh well.
[00:32] <whoever> ActionParsnip: for FF http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=6b08e08655b5c9f8&hl=en , now lookng for chrome
[00:36] <yaboo> what is the best rss reader on ubuntu
[00:36] <acerimmer> !best|yaboo
[00:36] <qbert__> hi: i always get this error when linking 32bit applications ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.so when searching for -lSDL What am i doing wrong
[00:37] <CaptAnon> Does anyone have any experianse with raname
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> whoever: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=73d3db1d4719b1e0&hl=en
[00:38] <drako689> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/wFaERctc
[00:38] <drako689> what you think?
[00:39] <drako689> i can do the upgrade :) and no problem with my ubuntu server?
[00:39] <doates> can anyone help me?
[00:40] <dagerik> How can I sort on third column when separator is \t?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> drako689: you'll need to satisfy deps dude, its all I can say
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> dagerik: sure
[00:41] <triforceMIKE> I NEED A NEW MOTHERBOARD
[00:42] <LjL> !caps
[00:42] <triforceMIKE> lol
[00:42] <doates> actionparsnip how can i boot from disc
[00:42] <drako689> ok
[00:46] <whoever> ActionParsnip: thx , the one i found  i would have to set the font globaly , but it didn't occur to me to cancel the print promt and ctrl +/- the ctrl p
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> doates: have it put in at boot and set the BIOS to boot from it. Be careful if you do not want to remove your ubuntu install
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> triforceMIKE: how is a new motherboard related to ubuntu?
[00:47] <MK13> whois
[00:47] <doates> actionparsnip i have no idea how to do that and i do wat to remove ubuntu completely
[00:47] <triforceMIKE> idk lol
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> doates: I'd ask in ##windows
[00:48] <zabomber> Hi guys
[00:49] <zabomber> any idea why my folders and files look like this?
[00:49] <zabomber> http://imagebin.org/195175
[00:49] <doates> actionparsnip im curretly running ubuntu but cant use the windows install disc that is curretly in my drive
[00:49] <zabomber> im running 11.10 64bit. and it just happened over night
[00:49] <jeremiah_> I am new here. How do i install certain things in lubuntu?
[00:50] <Juv1228> if i have 16gb ram, whats a reasonable size for swap partition
[00:50] <Juv1228> if all i plan to do is use it for hibernate?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> doates: then your issue is with Windows
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Juv1228: 16Gb
[00:50] <doates> okay thankyou
[00:50] <jeremiah_> I am new here. How do i install certain things in lubuntu?
[00:51] <acerimmer> jeremiah_: what do you want to get
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> zabomber: tried a different theme?
[00:51] <jeremiah_> Flash, java and some more stuff latter on
[00:51] <zykotick9> jeremiah_: "sudo apt-get foo" where foo is the name of the program.  Is one method.
[00:52] <zykotick9> s/program/package/
[00:52] <jeremiah_> so sudo apt-get java?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: flash is installable by enabling the partner repo and installing adobe-installer
[00:52] <zykotick9> does lubuntu have an lubuntu-restricted-extras package?  for jeremiah_
[00:52] <jeremiah_> ???
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: java isn't an option of apt-get
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: are you using 32bit Ubuntu?
[00:53] <jeremiah_> then how do i get it?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> !partner
[00:53] <jeremiah_> yes
[00:54] <jmscomtechy> jermiah_ u could also try " sudo apt-get lubuntu-restricted-extras " is another
[00:54] <nancy--> can anyone recommend a "trustable" well renouned vps (with root access) host    for $10 /month  . i signed at fdcservers.net but they  cancelled my order because they were unable to verify card. strange  ?
[00:54] <flowerpot> nancy--, ec2 offers a free virtual machine for 1 year.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: if you run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/814945/   it will install 32bit Java for Chromium :0
[00:54] <nancy--> flowerpot,  that will not have quality
[00:54] <flowerpot> nancy--, what do you mean?
[00:55] <nancy--> flowerpot,  a machine for free will not give reliablitiy
[00:55] <flowerpot> nancy--, it's exactly the same as every other virtual machine on EC2.  how reliable it is is up to you
[00:55] <flowerpot> nancy--, ec2 is reliable enough for thousands of mainstream companies; I don't see why it shouldn't be reliable for you, too
[00:56]  * flowerpot is proxing his IRC connection through a free EC2 virtual machine right now.
[00:56] <jeremiah_> and flash?
[00:56] <crassus> flowerpot: what AMI are you using?
[00:56] <nancy--> flowerpot,  why does it gives free ?
[00:56] <crassus> are there any AMIs for Lucid?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: it will install with the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[00:56] <crassus> flowerpot: I signed up for free tier and unfortunately got some fees :(
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> crassus: what is an AMI?
[00:57] <flowerpot> nancy--, because they can.  The idea is that you use it free (within limits) for a year, learn to use it, like it, and stick with it so you pay the next year
[00:57] <jeremiah_> i am new. i don't know what that exactly is.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: use software centre
[00:57] <nancy--> flowerpot,  what is ec2 web address?
[00:57] <flowerpot> nancy--,  http://aws.amazon.com/free/faqs/
[00:58] <crassus> ActionParsnip: it's basically a VM image that you can load into Amazon EC2 to use. There's thousands of them, mostly community-generated. Some for specific tasks; like a SuSE one setup with mono, or a Ubuntu 11.10 one setup for Ruby on Rails, etc.
[00:58] <flowerpot> nancy--, crassus: you do need to be careful though.  not everything qualifies for their free tier.  As long as you're aware of what you're running, it isn't a problem.
[00:58] <crassus> ActionParsnip: Amazon has a one-year free tier usage plan for new users too
[00:58] <jeremiah_> I can't find it in the bird circle thing
[00:58] <flowerpot> crassus, I'm using ami-30fe7300 in us-west-2.  It has nothing installed on it; it's just the vanilla Amazon Linux image.  I'm proxying via SSH.
[00:59] <crassus> flowerpot: yeah, I think I sort of crossed the line, in that I wanted to find a 10.04/Lucid AMI, couldn't find one, so just picked out the simplest Lucid one and prayed for the best. Amazon was thankfully very understanding and waived my charges after I killed those instances.
[00:59] <crassus> flowerpot: cool, what's it built on? slackware?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: jeez, press CTRL+ALT+T and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; sudo apt-get -y install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:59] <flowerpot> crassus,  AWS tends to be nice about that kind of thing
[01:00] <jeremiah_> sorry. i am just a newbie
[01:00] <flowerpot> crassus, Amazon Linux.
[01:00] <flowerpot> which i believe is based on redhat?
[01:00] <jeremiah_> =)
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you need to be a little braver with your OS dude
[01:02] <jeremiah_> uh what is os?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: (o)perating (s)ystem
[01:02] <jeremiah_> I know i am stupid!!
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> (o)perating (s)ystem
[01:02] <jeremiah_> thank u
[01:02] <crassus> jeremiah_: nah, you're just new
[01:03] <jeremiah_> someone told me i should never give up. and if i have to look stupid,  or start as a newbie, i will
[01:04] <genewitch> where's the guide for installing UEC on 11.10? the installer doesn't say anything about cloud anymore
[01:04] <al_nz1> I am installing dhcpd-server and next it says to edit /etc/dhcpd3/dhcpd.conf - but after install the dhcpd3 directory does not exist?
[01:04] <pseudomander> hey
 also try buying a couple of books or reading free tutorials you may want to try youtube as well
[01:04] <pseudomander> Does anyone know where the startup programs tab saves it's data
[01:05] <jeremiah_> i will
[01:05] <jeremiah_> i know some of linux just not very much
[01:05] <wolfmitchell> How do I start Ubuntu without X?
[01:05] <pseudomander> I need to edit the contents but cannot access the account I need to edit it on
[01:05] <genewitch> wolfmitchell: why
[01:05] <genewitch> wolfmitchell: like, just once or all the time
[01:06] <wolfmitchell> Once
[01:06] <somsip> !text | wolfmitchell
[01:06] <wolfmitchell> Add it to the end?
[01:07] <cschuck> hey is there a way I can setup a 3 speaker system (left fr, right fr, sub/amp0)
[01:07] <cschuck> or is that just worthless
[01:07] <somsip> wolfmitchell: append = "add it to the end", yes
[01:07] <wolfmitchell> Ah
[01:07] <wolfmitchell> Cya
[01:07] <cschuck> anyone?
[01:08] <pseudomander> Where does the Startup Programs Tab store the data informing X what to run at boot-time?
[01:08] <doates> hi can anyone here help me
[01:09] <cschuck> poss. whats up
[01:09] <triforceMIKE> i probably can
[01:09] <pseudomander> I have a syntax error in a code I attempted to add and now can no longer boot :(
[01:09] <cschuck> what were you trying to add?
[01:09] <MK13> pseudomander: what file is the code in?
[01:09] <cschuck> other than a code?
[01:09] <doates> im currently running on ubuntu and im trying to put windows back on remove ubutu i put in the disc for windows but it wont autorun and nor does the setup.exe
[01:10] <pseudomander> I tried to add a script to a user account which required root
[01:10] <MK13> doates: boot from the windows disc
[01:10] <doates> mk13 how can i do that
[01:10] <cschuck> yeah. you can't run .exe files on ubuntu (obviously) but yeah.. what mk13 said
[01:10] <pseudomander> So I added a sudo to the code expecting it to ask me to enter the password again during boot.
[01:11] <pseudomander> instead everything just pauses waiting for input
[01:11] <pseudomander> and I cannot get past X's loading screen
[01:11] <jrib> pseudomander: so remove it?
[01:11] <MK13> doates: you keep the disc in the drive, then set the bios to boot from the CD
[01:11] <cschuck> pseudomander: can you enter characters and terminal's responsive?
[01:12] <doates> MK13 can you go into further detail please
[01:12] <doates> im new to ubuntu
[01:12] <pseudomander> No I can't sadly :(
[01:12] <MK13> doates: what kind of computer do you have?
[01:12] <aBound> doates, Welcome to Ubuntu. :)
[01:12] <doates> running an hp laptop
[01:12] <MK13> aBound: apparently about to leave as well :(
[01:12] <pseudomander> I have access to other accounts though, and was looking for were the cose would be stored in home/pseudomander. If that's where it would be
[01:12] <doates> aBound thankyou!
[01:13] <aBound> MK13, Leaving ubuntu or the channel?
[01:13] <cschuck> doates: put the cd into the disc drive. restart your computer. there should be a "choose boot screen"
[01:13] <MK13> aBound: ubuntu
[01:13] <aBound> MK13, Awww, any reason for leaving Ubuntu?
[01:13] <doates> i know the choose boot the options are all ubuntu / ubuntu(safemode)
[01:14] <MK13> doates: that boot screen is past the BIOS
[01:14] <cschuck> did you delete windows or something when you installed ubuntu?
[01:14] <cschuck> you should be able to boot between windows and ubuntu
[01:14] <doates> yes i took windows off cause i had a virus then on here my connection would always disconnect randomly
[01:14] <doates> its not dual partition
[01:14] <cschuck> ahhh gotcha
[01:14] <MK13> aBound: it's doates leaving btw
[01:15] <cschuck> you might have to re-partition your harddrive
[01:15] <cschuck> im not completely sure though
[01:15] <MK13> doates: did you say that you want to remove ubuntu completely?
[01:15] <cschuck> im new to ubuntu too but im running irc client from terminal so im not that far off
[01:15] <aBound> MK13, Confusing me you're doates? Or are you saying doates is leaving.
[01:15] <cschuck> doates is leaving
[01:15] <cschuck> lol
[01:15] <aBound> Awww...
[01:15] <MK13> aBound: sorry, doates is the one leaving
[01:15] <aBound> :P
[01:16] <aBound> doates, You can't leave us. :P
[01:16] <MK13> aBound: i just got up and running on my ps3 :D
[01:16] <doates> aBound story is i got a virus on windows uninstalled and single partitioned ubuntu but on ubuntu i have trouble connecting to the default network constantly so i wanna go back to windows using my windows disc
[01:16] <aBound> MK13, Woot I thought they removed OtherOS?
[01:17] <MK13> aBound: they did, hackers brought it back
[01:17] <nancy--> can anyone recommend a "trustable" well renouned vps (with root access) host    for $10 /month  . i signed at fdcservers.net but they  cancelled my order because they were unable to verify card. strange  ?
[01:17] <aBound> doates, Ahh, understandable.
[01:17] <aBound> MK13, I suppose you need a downgrade for the firmware right.
[01:17] <triforceMIKE> i have xubuntu does anybody know how i restore factory settings without creating new user
[01:17] <cschuck> theres a partitioner on the ubuntu software store I know
[01:18] <cschuck> not sure what its called.
[01:18] <pjs> hey all.. I have a fresh install of ubutun 11.0 and by default it's starting the default window manager. How do I disable this? I dont want any WM running at all. Just a root prompt. I thought it was gdm, but there are no init scripts for that
[01:18] <MK13> aBound: I believe so... i hadn't updated this one in a while (broken blu ray drive) so i just updated to the custom firmware
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> pjs: add the boot option: text
[01:18] <somsip> cschuck: there are a few, but gparted is probably the one I hear anout most
[01:18] <acerimmer> triforceMIKE: display the home folder.  show hidden folders.   delete hidden folders.  logout/login
[01:18] <aBound> MK13, Awesome.
[01:19] <aBound> :)
[01:19] <MK13> doates: when you boot your computer their should be a message to push a specific key to enter setup
[01:19] <poincare101> I'm on command line ubuntu, what file schanges the resolution of the display in Gnome/Unity?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> pjs: you will be able to log in as your user at CLI and use your OS as usual there
[01:19] <aBound> Crap accidentally left the chat room.
[01:19] <MK13> doates: something like esc, del, f1 or similar
[01:20] <Xeneth> Evening peeps
[01:20] <doates> ill see if not ill be back
[01:21] <MK13> doates: alright, good luck
[01:21] <MK13> doates: look for an option boot order and make sure cd is b4 hdd
[01:21] <aBound> Anybody using Unity 5.0?
[01:21] <max_noob> Is there any kind soul out there that can help me with a laptop that doesn't shuts down using ubunto unless it is unplugged?
[01:22] <MK13> aBound: I ran full speed away from unity :(
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> aBound: its default in precise and only installable via ppa, so either way its not supported here
[01:22] <[[thufir]]> trying to mount alternate cd iso as so:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460012  what's wrong with that?  says no such file
[01:22] <EvilResistance> max_noob:  did you try the command 'halt' via command line?
[01:22] <max_noob> nope
[01:22] <aBound> ActionParsnip, I know but dang I just can't wait.
[01:22] <max_noob> let me try then
[01:22] <aBound> MK13, I like Unity simplifies things.
[01:22] <EvilResistance> max_noob:  try using the 'halt' command or 'shutdown -h now'
[01:23] <EvilResistance> max_noob:  either of those will require sudo if i remember right...
[01:23] <MK13> aBound: i use either xfce or xmonad
[01:23] <aBound> MK13, Ubuntu is like the distro where you can just go about your business like Mint. :P
[01:23] <aBound> xmonad never used that before or ever heard of it.
[01:23] <pjs> ActionParsnip thanks. Where do I add that?
[01:24] <MK13> aBound: it's just a window manager, not a DE. Windows can be managed using only the keyboard
[01:24] <evernoob> is unity available for any other distro?
[01:24] <aBound> MK13, Sounds like you like it for it's keyboard shortcuts.
[01:24] <aBound> hehe
[01:24] <acerimmer> evernoob: every other ubuntu sure.  not sure beyond that...
[01:24] <somsip_> evernoob: no
[01:24] <MK13> aBound: not much else to like it for
[01:24] <zykotick9> evernoob: nope.  a few people where trying, i believe they man have given up - "too many bugs"
[01:25] <somsip_> evernoob: http://www.thevarguy.com/2012/01/23/why-dont-other-linux-distros-use-unity-a-few-thoughts/
[01:25] <aBound> MK13, True that it does look ugly but I'm sure it can be useful.
[01:25] <max_noob> I dont think halt is working the laptop is saying "will now halttooth" but its still working :S
[01:26] <evernoob> I personally hate it - but one thing keping me from persevering is the thought that it "locks me in" to ubuntu medium term
[01:26] <jediael> hello, my audio is not woking
[01:26] <max_noob> oh well I guess I just have to push the power button for 8secs again
[01:26] <narkotik> hello, how can i fix wlan0? it says its for ethernet but its working as wireless how do i change it back?
[01:26] <aBound> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Precise?
[01:26] <acerimmer> !precise
[01:27] <aBound> acerimmer, Thanks.
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> pjs: #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <jediael> My audio is not working
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> evernoob: you can install xfce4, log off, log in to xfce session and not use unity..
[01:28] <pjs> ActionParsnip, sorry?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> jediael: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> pjs: the channel for Precise is #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <evernoob> Action, yes, I do
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> jediael: and can you expand on 'not working', it doesn't tell us much
[01:29] <jediael> i am not able to hear any audio
[01:29] <[[thufir]]> why does gksu give a syntax error?  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460013  I'm following the upgrade guide
[01:30] <MK13> narkotik: what wireless card?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> evernoob: so how are you "locked in"?
[01:30] <xangua> [[thufir]]: 'sudo gksu' o_O
[01:30] <jediael> ActionParsnip i am not able to hear audio
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> jediael: from speakers? over HDMI? from headphones?
[01:30] <max_noob> halt and shutdown -h now dont seem to work with my laptop while plugged, does anyone still have any suggestions for this ?
[01:30] <zykotick9> [[thufir]]: you can't "run" an iso eitehr
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> max_noob: what model system??
[01:31] <walbert> Could anyone help me with setting up X to work with dual monitors, each with its own video card? - specifically a laptop with one of those "Optimus" NVidia cards which collaborates with a weaker intel chipset card? I can't seem to get the display plugged directly into the nvidia card's port to function
[01:31] <MK13> max_noob: poweroff reboot ? they may be aliases of shutdown
[01:31] <pjs> ActionParsnip, thanks. I'll ask there too. Unless you just wanna tell me the file name? :)
[01:31] <MK13> max_noob: two seperate commands btw
[01:32] <evernoob> what I meant was, time spent learning and customising Unity is applicable to Ubuntu only - I did use quotes for "locked in"
[01:32] <jwpeddle> How do I disable/change the unity launcher shortcut? (super/windows key by default)
[01:32] <max_noob> so I try sudo poweroff ?
[01:32] <MK13> max_noob: yea, it just might work
[01:32] <[[thufir]]> I  ran sudo as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades  which says to use gksu on the iso.
[01:32] <jediael> ActionParsnip: from any of sources.
[01:33] <jediael> how do i comunicae with u only ?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> jediael: ok, run the command in a terminal and select to upload to the server, it will make a URL. What is the URL?
[01:33] <max_noob> since normal restart works, and shutdown if its unplugged
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> pjs: file name of what?
[01:33] <MK13> jediael: /msg <name> but ask if it's ok first
[01:34] <pjs> ActionParsnip, I assume to edit the boot option so I can add : text to it. I just dont want the WM to run at boot
[01:34] <jediael> oh ok
[01:34] <zykotick9> [[thufir]]: you need to follow those directions more carefully.  You need to mount the ISO first, then run a file from the mounted iso.  you're trying to run the iso.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> evernoob: user tend to customise their desktop, its just something different to tweak
[01:34] <MK13> max_noob: i actually think i remember my old laptop doing that... I always just used reboot and pushed the power button at BIOS
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> pjs: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[01:34] <MK13> max_noob: an update eventually fixed it
[01:34] <aBound> MK13, Have a good one I'm hopping outta here.
[01:35] <pjs> ActionParsnip: thank you!
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> evernoob: persevering is the thought that it "locks me in" to ubuntu   is what you said...
[01:35] <max_noob> sudo poweroff worked but I wonder if there was a way to fix this in order for the normal button to work
[01:36] <xim_> isn't 8 minutes a lot of clock drift for 55days?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> xim_: you could cron a job to sync time every few hours or so to keep it accurrate
[01:36] <walbert> depends on how fast you're going
[01:37] <max_noob> or I wonder if there is anyway to contact a developer about this, I already tried 12.04 alpha 1 and it has the same bug has 11.10 :(
[01:37] <pjs> ActionParsnip: So just add "text" to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" line in /etc/default/grub file?
[01:37] <Raymond_> anybody good with wireless 'broadcom 4306/3'
[01:38] <Raymond_> not working o natty
[01:38] <xim_> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:38] <Raymond_> on*
[01:38] <pjs> ActionParsnip: or do I just uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console ?
 it says information uploaded to sever
[01:38] <Raymond_> are there any packages that will conflict with firmwareb43install
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> pjs: adding the boot option is the way I know, not sure about GRUB_TERMINAL
[01:39] <pjs> ActionParsnip, ok so add it to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> max_noob: precise is only suported in #ubuntu+1 until release day. I suggest you report a bug
[01:39] <[[thufir]]> zykotick9: I did mount it as so:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460014  and I can see it on my desktop.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> pjs: the line that says:  quiet splash     add the option in the quotes
[01:39] <max_noob> how do I repport a bug ?
[01:39] <urlin2u> max_noob, you would file a bug report, if it is a bug.
[01:40] <jediael> Terminal says to me to tell you it has been uploaded
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> pjs: then save and close the file and run:  sudo update-grub
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> max_noob: ubuntu-bug packagename
[01:40] <urlin2u> !tab | max_noob
[01:40] <zykotick9> [[thufir]]: you're still trying to run the iso image...
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> jediael: yes, paste the URL in here please
[01:40] <max_noob> sry for the dumb question but I really dont know how to report bugs in ubunto
[01:40] <zykotick9> [[thufir]]: also, gksu (or gksudo) REPLACED sudo - you don't need "sudo gksu ..."
[01:41] <pjs> ActionParsnip: thanks again man
[01:41] <genewitch> ping
[01:41] <Find> -Ping- genewitch : 2.69 second/s
[01:41] <jediael> it gave me no url
[01:41] <urlin2u> max_noob, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[01:41] <jediael> can you give me the code again ?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> jediael: when prompted, select YES to upload and a URL will be generated
[01:42] <borudev>  Hello, how is everyone? I had a quick question troubleshooting my ubuntu 11.10 server installation. I installed the same OS on 2 different servers and I'm experiencing the same problem. What happens is I turn on the server, it's ok for few hours, and then when I try to SSH to it, it get a time out, when I plug in the keyboard, and type something then I can connect to it again. Seems that it's
[01:42] <borudev> going to some kind of sleep mode. Note, no desktop was installed just pure server OS. Anyone had this issue before? what could cause it? Thanks
[01:42] <jediael> ok
[01:42] <borudev> i checked syslog and kernel log there's nothing there
[01:45] <Raymond_> how do i uninstall ubuntu 11.04
[01:46] <max_noob> ok I found out how to open the ubunto-bug window, when I select other problem and click ok I get an error message saying I need to specify a package, how do I do that ?
[01:46] <Raymond_> from a dual boot system winxP
[01:46] <zykotick9> Raymond_: install your new OS over it
 its taking too long
[01:47] <jediael> it says uploading info
[01:47] <pjs> ActionParsnip: hrmm, I did that and the update-grub call and now it's just hanging at startup after "checking battery state"... grrr
[01:47] <max_noob> !tab
[01:49] <urlin2u> max_noob, you registered with launchpad?
[01:50] <jstoone> How can it be that when i
[01:50] <max_noob> yeah, why ?
[01:50] <jediael> ActionPasnip its still uploading infomation
[01:50] <acerimmer> Raymond_: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-safely-uninstall-ubuntu-in-windows-dual-boot-environment/
[01:50] <jediael> is this normal ?
[01:51] <urlin2u> max_noob, just checking you have to be to report a bug, you saw the link  assume, i have never reported one so that is my best shot at helping.
[01:51] <jstoone> How can it be that when I do 'md5sum -t text.txt" where test.txt is "jstoone" and the md5 sum differs from what goog.li gets?
[01:51] <urlin2u> I*
[01:51] <max_noob> oh :( thanks alot anyway I leat I managed to open apport XD
[01:52] <zykotick9> max_noob: to report bugs you do need to know the affected package name.  what are you having problems with?
[01:52] <VoidMNE> can i ask a question
[01:52] <h00k> jstoone: is the file 'text.txt' empty?
[01:52] <zykotick9> !ask | VoidMNE
[01:52] <CaptAnon> what effect does the - key have at the start of a file name??
[01:52] <max_noob> well a laptop that doesent shutdown while its pulleg in so I'm guessing its the kernel or something like that
[01:53] <max_noob> plugged*
[01:53] <zykotick9> max_noob: sorry i'm not sure what package that would be, good luck.
[01:53] <VoidMNE> i installed ubuntu on my laptop and it cant seem to recognize when i insert a dvd in the dvd tray, nothing happens. what should i do
[01:53] <CaptAnon> VoidMNE,  Stop trying to ask me and ask me
[01:53] <max_noob> :'(
[01:53] <jstoone> h00k: nope the file 'text.txt' contains my name 'jstoone' made with  -    'echo "jstoone" > text.txt'
[01:54] <jstoone> !ask | VoidMNE
[01:54] <VoidMNE> i installed ubuntu on my laptop and it cant seem to recognize when i insert a dvd in the dvd tray, nothing happens. what should i do
[01:54] <jstoone> VoidMNE: Sorry, piped wrong
[01:54] <VoidMNE> what?
[01:54] <zykotick9> VoidMNE: do regular data cds get autorecognized?
[01:54] <VoidMNE> no cd gets recognized
[01:54] <h00k> jstoone: okay. goog.li literally took the text 'text.txt' and md5sum'd that. If you want to try goog.li, use the text jstoone in there
[01:55] <jstoone> VoidMNE: Sorry, when you join just ask the question ;)
[01:55] <zykotick9> VoidMNE: are you using Unity/Gnome?
[01:55] <VoidMNE> unity i guess
[01:55] <booh-> How to force clients to connect authenticate to radius without any cleartext password... and only crypted or challenge respond protocol?
[01:55] <h00k> booh-: you'd make those changes on your wireless AP/Radius server
[01:56] <jediael> i need help
[01:56] <Juv1228> hi, i have an intel i7 with hd graphics 3000, and a fresh copy of 11.10
[01:56] <Al_nz1> can someone please help me with dhcp
[01:56] <jediael> i was being helped but i have had no esponse
[01:56] <booh-> It's my own java app that connect to radius server for auth.
[01:57] <eeeeelvis> Al_nz1: specify
[01:57] <Juv1228> are there any drivers out there that will at least allow me any form of 3d acceleration? in the current state i cant even play a youtube video
[01:57] <zykotick9> !pm | VoidMNE
[01:57] <h00k> Al_nz1: ask the actual question
[01:57] <Zeb> hello
[01:57] <h00k> Juv1228: it depends on your video card
[01:58] <Al_nz1> h00k: I am trying to setup dhcp on my lan, which is just a workgroup. I now have internet, but cant resolve names?
[01:58] <h00k> Al_nz1: name resolution is done with DNS, do you have a local DNS server?
[01:58] <VoidMNE> i installed ubuntu on my laptop and it cant seem to recognize when i insert a dvd in the dvd tray, nothing happens. what should i do
[01:58] <h00k> Al_nz1: somewhere on the network?
[01:58] <Juv1228> h00k, its the intel hd graphics 3000 built into my i7
[01:59] <h00k> !dns | Al_nz1
[01:59] <Al_nz1> h00k: no, its just a workgroup. I assume name resolution is handled by my router/gateway? so I set dns to be the routers address
[01:59] <CaptAnon> A large number of files start with a "-" how do I remove it?
[01:59] <Find> »»» could not resolve | «««
[01:59] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here have any idea why my hardware acceleration isn't working?  I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, on a Samsung QX411-W01 with Optimus GPU-switching (between a nVidia GeForce 520M and a Intel HD Graphics 3000).  I've had hardware acceleration working before with Ironhide, but it doesn't seem to work now.
[01:59] <wolfmitchell> How  do I connect to a XDMCP server from Lightdm?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> VoidMNE: what data is on the DVD?
[01:59] <h00k> Al_nz1: I guess make sure your router that does DHCP also does DNS
[01:59] <Al_nz1> h00k: my linux box I just want for DHCP - router can handle all the other stuff
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: optimus is only supported on Windows. There is a project called Bumblebee which may help
[01:59] <CyberDawg> VoidMNE, Is it a Dell laptop by chance?
[02:00] <jstoone> h00k: I did i just entered 'jstoone' in the text field. Here are the outputs - http://paste.ubuntu.com/814994/
[02:00] <BlueProtoman> ActionParsnip: Ironhide is an improved version.  I've used it successfully, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
[02:00] <VoidMNE> ActionParsnip: its regular data dvd with some documents and songs
[02:00] <Al_nz1> h00k: router not doing DHCP - linux box does DHCP
[02:00] <sidney_> trouble getting rid of open office with this command gksu apt-get purge "openoffice*.*"
[02:00] <VoidMNE> CyberDawg: no its asus
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: is it from the Ubuntu repos?
[02:01] <zykotick9> sidney_: *.* probably won't help, look for the openoffice-common (or similar package name) and try removing it (there might be some package left over after though)
[02:01] <BlueProtoman> ActionParsnip: No.
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: not sure how supported 3rd party aps are here dude
[02:01] <slakcphone> What is the mint channel?
[02:01] <h00k> jstoone: md5sum is also taking a fingerprint of the filename
[02:01] <CyberDawg> VoidMNE, I hae a Dell XPS and have never figured out how to eject my DVD without rebooting
[02:02] <xangua> !mint | slakcphone
[02:02] <h00k> jstoone: I think goog.li is only taking md5sum of the text you enter in
[02:02] <acerimmer> !mint|slakcphone
[02:02] <h00k> jstoone: I think. What's your goal, here?
[02:02] <darbe> ubuntu updated messed up webmail addon
[02:02] <yaboo> have bluetooth on my hp laptop, but when I go to detect a bluetooth device, it tells me the bluetooth device is disabled
[02:02] <zykotick9> acerimmer: next time with spaces between the | ;)
[02:02] <yaboo> is there a way to enable the device
[02:02] <wolfmitchell> Is there a way I can use XDMCP from lightdm
[02:02] <VoidMNE> CyberDawg: i dont have ejecting problem, my laptop simply wont recognize that the dvd is insertet. the tray opens and closes normaly
[02:02] <wolfmitchell> ?
[02:02] <acerimmer> zykotick9: :)  tyvm.  noob moment
[02:03] <jediael> Hello
[02:03] <CyberDawg> VoidMNE, Id rather hae my problem ;)
[02:03] <Juv1228> BlueProtoman, i too am unable to use my intel hd gfx 3000 in ubuntu
[02:03] <jediael> my audio is not working
[02:03] <jstoone> h00k: Well, got some... strings... that I need to compare ;)
[02:03] <Juv1228> have 11.10 installed
[02:03] <jediael> i cant hea no audio
[02:03] <cheapie> jediael: Have you checked your audio settings?
[02:03] <jstoone> jediael: What soundcard are you using?
[02:04] <VoidMNE> CyberDawg: heh, yea, but nobody here seems to want to help me...
[02:04] <urlin2u> !audio > jediael
[02:04] <cheapie> VoidMNE: What's wrong over there?
[02:04] <jediael> how?
[02:04] <VoidMNE> cheapie: i installed ubuntu on my laptop and it cant seem to recognize when i insert a dvd in the dvd tray, nothing happens. what should i do
[02:04] <CyberDawg> VoidMNE, its abusy place... be patient... Google is your friend
[02:05] <jstoone> jediael: If it's a new labtop with a new soundcard that has "dolby" sound in it, you need a pulseaudio patch for it.
[02:05] <VoidMNE> CyberDawg: i googled for like 3 hours to no avail, everything i tried didnt work
[02:05] <cheapie> jediael: DO you mean how to access the settings? VoidMNE: Can you access the disc through Nautilus (the file manager)?
[02:05] <h00k> Al_nz1: I'd recommend doing DNS/DHCP on the same machine, whichever you prefer
[02:05] <urlin2u> jediael, have you checked additional drivers
[02:06] <VoidMNE> cheapie: the dvd doesnt show anywhere, so no
[02:06] <jstoone> h00k: Thank you for the info, I'm glad for the feedback.
[02:06] <urlin2u> VoidMNE, have you tried more than one?
[02:06] <cheapie> VoidMNE: Have you tried this drive with other operating systems?
[02:06] <jediael> i dont know how to try divers
[02:06] <zykotick9> VoidMNE: do you have a /dev/cdrom device?  "ls -l /dev/cdrom" in a terminal
[02:06] <jediael> its not a new laptop
[02:06] <VoidMNE> urlin2u: yes
[02:06] <urlin2u> jediael, there is a app called additional drivers take a look there.
[02:06] <VoidMNE> cheapie: yes it works normaly
[02:07] <mohamez> how to install packages using terminal ?
[02:07] <zykotick9> mohamez: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[02:07] <mohamez> what's the command line ?
[02:07] <cheapie> VoidMNE: Try showing us the result of `ls -l /dev/`
[02:07] <zykotick9> mohamez: consider "command line" and terminal the same thing...
[02:08] <cheapie> mohamez: That thing that says <your name>@<computer name><folder>$
[02:08] <mohamez> "command line" in programing ?
[02:08] <jediael> how do i fing this app
[02:08] <VoidMNE> zykotick9:  ssays no such file or directory
[02:08] <cheapie> jediael: What are you looking for?
[02:08] <VoidMNE> cheapie: the list is too big, anything particular i should be looking for
[02:08] <zykotick9> VoidMNE: that sould be a problem.  i take it "eject" from terminal doesn't work either?
[02:09] <zykotick9> s/sould/would/
[02:09] <jediael> urlin2u said that there is an app called dditional drivers
[02:09] <VoidMNE> zykotick9:  nope
[02:09] <zykotick9> VoidMNE: the system doesn't think you have a cd/dvd drive right now.  I don't have any suggestions, sorry.
[02:09] <cheapie> VoidMNE: Try "ls -l /dev/ > ~/devices" and open the created file, and put it on pastebin for us to see.
[02:09] <urlin2u> jediael, you running the unity desktop?
[02:10] <jediael> yes
[02:10] <jediael> my problem is only that i cant hear any audio from my computer
[02:10] <urlin2u> jediael, top button in left panel opens a search type the app name
[02:11] <VoidMNE> cheapie: im on my desktop right now, my laptop is next to me, any other way i could provide it?
[02:12] <cheapie> jediael: Try "lspci | grep audio" and see what that says. VoidMNE: Try adding " | grep cd" to the end of the command.
[02:12] <wolfmitchell> I need a way to use XDMCP via LightDm
[02:12] <CaptAnon> Does anyone have any experiance with the rename bash thing?
[02:12] <VoidMNE> cheapie: im sorry, what command
[02:13] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, rename bash thing?
[02:13] <cheapie> VoidMNE: The command would be "ls -l /dev | grep cd"
[02:13] <[[thufir]]> ok, thanks for help, think the install is going now:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460016
[02:13] <zykotick9> jediael: for cheapie's command to work you probably need to use "lspci | grep -i audio" (or i did anyways)
[02:13] <VoidMNE> cheapie: it did nothing :\
[02:14] <mohamez> what is the diffrence betwen command line and the command in terminal ?
[02:14] <CaptAnon> command?
[02:14] <CaptAnon> bash command?
[02:14] <jediael> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[02:14] <Sach> how do I upgrade directly from 9.10 to 11.04?
[02:14] <zykotick9> mohamez: think of them as the same thing
[02:14] <cheapie> VoidMNE: Hmm... Your computer doesn't seem to see a CD drive.
[02:14] <h00k> !upgrade | Sach
[02:14] <cheapie> jediael: Please wait...
[02:14] <xangua> Sach: make a clean install off 11.04
[02:14] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: do you mean the "rename" command in bash?
[02:14] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, What exactly are you trying to do?
[02:14] <zykotick9> mohamez: it's just different terminology for the same thing
[02:14] <VoidMNE> cheapie: but it worked on xp
[02:15] <jediael> ok
[02:15] <mohamez> command line in programming yes ?
[02:15] <EvilResistance> VoidMNE:  don't compare linux to XP :P  they're different beasts
[02:15] <Flannel> Sach: There's no supported way to do that.  You'll have to go 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04.  If you're willing to wait a few more months and want 12.04, you can upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04
[02:15] <EvilResistance> :P
[02:15] <[[thufir]]> Sach: you have to upgrade like three or four times.  download alternate cd's
[02:15] <cheapie> VoidMNE: Is it some odd nonstandard drive?
[02:15] <Sach> thurfri, i dont have a cd drive
[02:15] <[[thufir]]> Sach: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460016  I just have to upgrade twice.  this is one of two for me.  lol.
[02:15] <VoidMNE> cheapie: no. regular dvd rw drive
[02:15] <jstoone> h00k: It can't take the fingerprint of the filename 'cause when you try piping a string into md5sum you get exactly the same output so if you do 'md5sum -f test.txt' and then 'echo "jstoone" | md5sum', it's the same.
[02:15] <[[thufir]]> Sach: no need for cd drive
[02:16] <VoidMNE> EvilResistance: im merely stating that on xp it recognized cds, while on ubuntu it doesnt :\
[02:16] <CyberDawg> COFFEE TIME!!!!
[02:16] <Sach> thurfri, is it not possible to bypass what I dont want (ie go directly from 9.10 to 11.04?)
[02:16] <[[thufir]]> Sach: just free space on hard drive
[02:16] <jstoone> CyberDawg: Hell yes!
[02:16] <CaptAnon> Well, I want to remove numbers from the start of the file name, but I want to learn to fish rather then just get a fish, if you know what I mean, and I can't find any explanations of what the charictors do like ^ and such
[02:16] <[[thufir]]> Sach: nope.  I have to do it twice.  you, like four times.
[02:16] <sbarakos> well guys i am using a simple script restarter.sh on my ubuntu for a program  iwant to be up 24/7 so i got an infinite loop that runs and restarts a program in an sh form. This loop was working just fine but since yesterday for somereason it seems to be broken :S
[02:16] <johnnyjimm> Hello
[02:16] <EvilResistance> VoidMNE:  as i said, dont compare the two :P  Just because something worked in Windows doesnt mean it works out of the box with Linux :P
[02:16] <sbarakos> anyone can help me wiht this?
[02:16] <Flannel> Sach: There's no supported method.  If you're willing to venture outside of supported methods (meaning it may not work), then you can try it, yes.
[02:17] <VoidMNE> EvilResistance: its not like im trying to do anything advanced. i just want my laptop to read dvds
[02:17] <Titanoboa> trying to install Win98 on VirtualBox OSE (i've never done anything like it before). it doesn't want to boot the installation CD at all
[02:17] <Titanoboa> what might be the problem?
[02:17] <CaptAnon> I seen somewhere it mentions it is perl
[02:17] <zykotick9> Titanoboa: try #vbox
[02:18] <Titanoboa> thanks
[02:18] <pjs> ActionParsnip: So I had to not use "text" but remove "splash" and then do "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/lightdm.override" and that did the job
[02:18] <CaptAnon> So Should I have to learn a little bit of perl to know what I am doing?
[02:18] <sunboy> Hello
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Sach: I'd hold on til April and clean install Precise LTS. Or use the Alpha2 release now...
[02:18] <cheapie> jediael: I'm still searching...this might take a few minutes...
[02:18] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, perl is not bash
[02:18] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: something like "rename 's/^[0-9]*//' *.bak" should work for files ending in .bak.....but test *very* carefully first. I make no promises and have not tested it.
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> pjs: sweet, I'm guessing you ran: sudo -i   first, or the echo command would fail
[02:18] <sunboy> Anyone know how to stop Oracle Virtual Box from crashing X?
[02:19] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, You are trying to rename a file from the command line? Is that correct?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> sunboy: I'd ask in #vbox
[02:19] <pjs> actionparsnip yea :)
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> sunboy: are you using the OSE?
[02:19] <sbarakos> thx?
[02:19] <pjs> ActionParsnip: thanks again for the help!
[02:19] <sunboy> ActionParsnip: Just downloaded 4.0 and 4.1 from the site
[02:19] <Al_nz1> hey ActionParsnip
[02:20] <Al_nz1> could someone please help me with dhcpd config on ubuntu? I cant seem to get dns resolution
[02:20] <Al_nz1> infact I am not even sure if I am running dhcpd or dhcpd3 ?
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Al_nz1: run:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf    and you will have a web DNS setup
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> sunboy: then I'd ask in #vbox
[02:21] <cheapie> jediael: OK... try sudo insmod snd-via82xx
[02:21] <sbarakos> well guys i am using a simple script restarter.sh on my ubuntu for a program  iwant to be up 24/7 so i got an infinite loop that runs and restarts a program in an sh form. This loop was working just fine but since yesterday for somereason it seems to be broken :S
[02:21] <[[thufir]]> hypothetically, what would happen were you to run out of space during an upgrade?
[02:21] <sbts-tv_> ActionParsnip: I would not recommend running 'sudo -i' just to get an echo to work. try 'echo "abcd" | sudo tee -a /filename' instead
[02:22] <Flannel> jstoone: your file has a line feed at the end of it.
[02:22] <CaptAnon> yes bobo37773 , Ok sbts but what is the ^ character  for and what is it stopping from not removing every number from the file name sbts-tv_ , also I have allready ruined the filenames so I am just leaning how to use it better for next time
[02:22] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: wow - that was neat
[02:23] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: though I would like to learn where I was going wrong with my DHCP?
[02:23] <sbarakos> noone can help me? u all hate me?
[02:23] <Al_nz1> All I wanted to do was transfer DHCP from my router, to my linux box for my LAN
[02:23] <cheapie> sbarakos: I don't remember reading your question. Can you please restate it?
[02:23] <[[thufir]]> sbarakos: pastebin
[02:23] <sbarakos> well guys i am using a simple script restarter.sh on my ubuntu for a program  iwant to be up 24/7 so i got an infinite loop that runs and restarts a program in an sh form. This loop was working just fine but since yesterday for somereason it seems to be broken :S
[02:23] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: that shouldnt be too hard right?
[02:24] <jediael> on
[02:24] <sbarakos> cheapie: there you go
[02:24] <jediael> k
[02:24] <cheapie> svarakos: Can you put it up on pastebin so I can take a look at it?
[02:24] <_Ryth> Is there a specific package I must install to have the ax_lua.m4 macro included with autoconf?
[02:24] <jediael> can i be helped now ?
[02:24] <cheapie> jediael: OK... try sudo insmod snd-via82xx
[02:24] <sbarakos> cheapie: yess
[02:25] <Al_nz1> fucked123
[02:25] <Al_nz1> opps
[02:25] <Al_nz1> sorry
[02:25] <FloodBot1> Al_nz1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: the s/^[0-9]*// is a regular expression. regex for short. read the following man pages. sed, grep, regex(7)
[02:25] <jediael> it says no diectoy found
[02:25] <cmolenda> i should be able to do a "/msg nickserv help"  for info on registering w/ nickserv correct?
[02:26] <cheapie> sbarakos: Do you need help using pastebin?
[02:26] <Flannel> cmolenda: yes
[02:26] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: the easiest way to read manpages is from a terminal by running (for example) 'man sed' or 'man 7 regex'
[02:26] <cheapie> jediael: Try it with snd-hda-codec-via
[02:26] <Flannel> cmolenda: `msg nickserv help register` to be specific
[02:26] <sbarakos> cheapie: http://pastebin.com/AxeF5F30
[02:26] <_Ryth> Or can someone explain to me how to include m4 macros in my autoconf script?
[02:26] <zykotick9> !register > cmolenda
[02:26] <cmolenda> Flannel: Ah, i'll try that.
[02:26] <cheapie> sbarakos: Please wait while I examine the script...
[02:26] <MrGeneral> Did this ever happen to you? How can you fix this? If chrome crashes, it gets fixed. http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7926/chromeissue.png
[02:27] <cmolenda> Thanks guys
[02:27] <CaptAnon> Ok thanks sbts-tv_
[02:27] <mordof> Is it possible to have my user logged in on my desktop (and using it) meanwhile remotely logging into the same user from my laptop (in a different session basically, but with all the programs and whatnot available)?
[02:27] <mordof> or am i asking too much? lol
[02:28] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: you still here?
[02:28] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: in short the 's/a/b/' substitutes "a" for "b" in your case a='^[0-9]' and b=''
[02:28] <cheapie> sbarakos: Does the directory the script is in have a bin subdirectory?
[02:28] <sbarakos> ye
[02:28] <sbarakos> its under bin
[02:28] <sbarakos> on root
[02:28] <[[thufir]]> sbarakos: http://pastebin.com/AxeF5F30
[02:28] <cheapie> mordof: How would you like to log in?
[02:29] <cheapie> sbarakos: Your script is in "/" ?
[02:29] <johnnyjimm> I was wondering if anyone could help me. I am new to Ubuntu, and would like to list, from the terminal,  all the files in a directory containing descriptions of all the devices that can be mounted in the filesystem. The directory is already set.
[02:29] <mordof> cheapie: not sure? my main problem is that my current hard drives aren't share-able over the network due to mounting permissions. i haven't been able to get that to work properly
[02:29] <sbarakos> cheapie:   /opt/restarter.sh
[02:29] <mordof> cheapie: so i'm using synergy through my laptop, but want to share files..
[02:30] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, The "^" is used in regular expressions. Usually with grep, sed, awk etc... To just rename a file use the "mv" command
[02:30] <sbts-tv_> CaptAnon: for a='^[0-9]' the '^' matches the start of the line. '[0-9]' matches any digit and the '*' says that the digit will be matched 0 or more times
[02:30] <cheapie> sbarakos: So /opt/bin/oregon-core exists, right?
[02:30] <sbarakos> nope
[02:30] <sbarakos> thats why i do cd bin
[02:30] <sbarakos> its under ~/bin/
[02:30] <MK13> johnnyjimm: sudo fdisk -l should show all partitions that can be mounted
[02:30] <mordof> cheapie: thought - if i can't get that working right, i wondered if i could essentially log in with the same user to gain access.. but that just seams like a hackish bypas to doing the proper thing first, lol
[02:30] <mordof> bypass*
[02:31] <sbarakos> but it works, i mean it runes the problem is not with the directory, for some reason it doesnt run infinite
[02:31] <johnnyjimm> thank you MK13
[02:31] <cheapie> sbarakos: Odd...
[02:31] <cheapie> mordof: So...VNC, SSH, LTSP, how are you wanting to login? You have to pick one...
[02:31] <sbarakos> yep :S
[02:31] <MK13> johnnyjimm: if you have just plugged in a usb device and have several, dmesg will print out that latest kernel messages and you can usually tell which device is the most recently plugged in
[02:32] <mordof> cheapie: VNC wouldn't work as that'd require only one user to be logged in / using the computer at the same time right?
[02:32] <sbts-tv_> bobo37773: CaptAnon wants to bulk rename files, this can be done using the "rename" (commandline) program that is standard on most systems. it uses regex's to do the job
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Al_nz1: i'm in and out, wassup?
[02:32] <MK13> mordof: what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <cheapie> mordof: I don't know. I've honestly never tried it. LTSP is rather hard to set up, but extremely versatile. SSH with X forwarding might be what you want. What are you wanting to do again?
[02:33] <TheWitness> Hey everyone
[02:33] <bobo37773> sbts-tv_, Gotcha. Never heard of it. That is why I like irc. I learned 3 new things since last night.
[02:33] <mordof> cheapie: get access to my main desktop's hard drives on my laptop, lol
[02:33] <jediael> hey, it said that there is no such file diectoy
[02:33] <mordof> cheapie: i should just fix the problem..
[02:33] <bobo37773> TheWitness, Hey
[02:33] <cheapie> mordof: Have you considered FTP?
[02:33] <mordof> hm
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> mordof: or sftp ;)
[02:33] <cheapie> mordof: Or samba?
[02:33] <TheWitness> Does anyone know any good website to start learning about linux?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> !manual | TheWitness
[02:34] <MK13> mordof: I would setup SSH on the server and access then through scp sftp
[02:34] <mordof> cheapie: samba doesn't work due to permissions - that's what i'm struggling with
[02:34] <sunboy> Hi. Does anyone know what might be causing vbox to crash ubuntu 10.10?
[02:34] <sbts-tv_> mordof: do you want to remote access from a GUI or commandline?
[02:34] <cheapie> mordof: Well, you might want to set up FTP or SFTP then... is this on your local network or exposed to the internet?
[02:34] <MK13> mordof: server = linux machine, not necessarily a server
[02:34] <mordof> MK13: i don't want a solution where i'm copying duplicates
[02:34] <mordof> sbts-tv_: gui
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> mordof: when you access the share, what happens? Are you asked for a username & password?
[02:35] <MK13> mordof: copying duplicates?
[02:35] <MK13> mordof: is the other computer windows or linux?
[02:35] <mordof> "Unable to mount location" "Failed to mount Windows share"
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> sunboy: I suggest you uninstall the virtualbox version, remove the PPA then install virtualbox-ose from the Ubuntu repo and try that
[02:35] <mordof> they're both ubuntu 11.10
[02:35] <mordof> ActionParsnip: ^-- the second last post
[02:35] <MK13> mordof: you can mount stfp in ubuntu :D
[02:36] <MK13> mordof: sftp*
[02:36] <johnnyjimm> thank you <MK13>, i will write that down
[02:36] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: I was trying to get DHCP on my workgroup handled by my linux box rather than my router. I have turned it off on router and on, on my ubuntu box. Thats when my DNS issued started. I have entered my ISP's dns servers into my dhcpd.conf file, but that didnt help. Your fix did, but I would still like to know what the permenant fix it?
[02:36] <Al_nz1> is
[02:36] <sbts-tv_> if that is the case, from in your file manager (on the machine you want to use the drive from) click on 'file->connect to server' then choose ssh as the protocol
[02:36] <MK13> johnnyjimm: no prob
[02:36] <sunboy> ActionP: Ok, will try that. I actually didn't install from ppa. I dld the dep from their site
[02:36] <sbts-tv_> mordof: ^^^^
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> mordof: try:  smbtree     do you see the shares on the samba server. Run it on both
[02:36] <cheapie> mordof: You can also use FTP that way, but SFTP might be better.
[02:36] <mordof> MK13: yeah - true. but that's still bypassing my original problem of not having my paritions mounted properly
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> Al_nz1: you'll need dnsmasq afaik to give a DNS service
[02:37] <MK13> mordof: what about the partitions is incorrect, what errors is it causing?
[02:37] <mordof> ActionParsnip: the problem is that my hard drive is mounted from IN nautilus after login, because i suck at setting up auto mounts
[02:37] <mordof> so it's attached to my user - that's my guess
[02:37] <sbts-tv_> mordof: I would not recommend anything smb or samba or cifs (or whatever it is) unless you *have* to use windows machines
[02:37] <jstoone> Flannel: How do I get rid of that line feed?
[02:37] <mordof> sbts-tv_: why?
[02:37] <MK13> mordof: which partition... just a data partition?
[02:38] <mordof> MK13: *nods*
[02:38] <Al_nz1> ActionParsnip: what about "option domain-name-servers xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx" in the dhcpd.conf? isnt that what the line is supposed to do? provide dns for any DHCP clients?
[02:38] <sunboy> sbts_tv_: why is that?
[02:38] <MK13> mordof: do you have the entry for it already in fstab?
[02:38] <starte> hey can anyone tell me if its possible to set up a three speaker system for my music? I have a left front, right front, and a subwoofer/amplifier.
[02:38] <sunboy> I use that for my network drive
[02:38]  * cheapie wonders what just happened with "Bry8Star{GB"...
[02:39] <starte> like with banshee or something
[02:39] <[[thufir]]> grr.  ran out of space for upgrade.
[02:39] <sbts-tv_> mordof: samba (etc) does not handle permissions correctly, along with some horrible glitches and protocol nastyness. it was designed by microsoft for the first version of windows (pretty much) and just got worse from there
[02:39] <mordof> MK13: hmm.. hold on, i forgot to add it :\ lol. been so long since i've done any of this
[02:39] <mordof> sbts-tv_: so you're saying sftp is a better idea in general?
[02:39] <_Ryth> Anyone here good with autotools?
[02:39] <MK13> mordof: once it is added to fstab it should be automatically added on boot
[02:39] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: actually SMB was developed by IBM i believe
[02:40] <starte> oh and i changed my nickname from "cschuck" to "starte" btw. so i was there for the whole darea convo about the windows cd partition
[02:40] <starte> a hour ago or so
[02:40] <starte> anyone know how to set up speakers on ubuntu?
[02:41] <sbts-tv_> mordof: definately. and nautilus can manage connections to remote machines automatically for you. as I said use the "connect to server" option in the nautilus "file" menu
[02:41] <www_> french?
[02:41] <mordof> sbts-tv_: ok
[02:41] <CaptAnon> Thanks very much sbts-tv_  and bobo37773 ,  I will get the hang of it eventualy
[02:41] <mordof> so i'll fix my fstab, and then set up sftp
[02:41] <starte> i am going to kick a puppy if somebody doesnt start helping me
[02:41] <mordof> starte: :\
[02:42] <mordof> starte: my speakers just worked - so no i don't know how
[02:42] <starte> mordof: well yeah mine do too, im listning to yngwie malmsteen right now
[02:42] <danny18174363829> Hello
[02:42] <starte> but i have a subwoofer too
[02:42] <starte> and the sound really is only coming out of the left and right front
[02:42] <danny18174363829> I need help fixing the boot up of my brothers computer, it no longer boots up
[02:43] <sunboy> Vbox ose does the same thing. kicks me out of ubuntu
[02:44] <starte> mordof: wait. i just thought of something. can I partition my already created ubuntu disk drive to add more memory?
[02:44] <danny18174363829> Hi can anyone help me fixing my brother's computer, I've already gone into recovery mode and tried to repair broken packages but it says that it can't connect to the internet
[02:44] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Anyone here knows how to change the functions of a key?
[02:45] <starte> danny18174363829: your username is a complete bitch to try to reply to. its so long
[02:45] <sunboy>  ubuntu 10.10 - try to load virtualbox (4.1, 4.0, ose) -> crashes X
[02:45] <danny18174363829> Ill change it
[02:45] <Merritt> Hi - Using the latest Ubuntu with Gnome Shell - seems as though the hotkey for overview is set to only the left side Windows key. Can this be set to the right side key? I've had no luck with google.
[02:45] <ejv> starte: the [tab] key will autocomplete in most irc clients, try it.
[02:45] <starte> danny18174363829: update your drivers
[02:45] <starte> dannyfog: haha thanks. but update your drivers
[02:45] <dannyfog> How do you update your drivers when the computer wont boot up at all?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Al_nz1: not something I've used dude, sorry
[02:46] <cheapie> danny18174363829: Try ifconfig - see if it says anything about "eth0" or "wlan0".
[02:46] <starte> dannyfog: damn. is it a partition on a windows?
[02:46] <ejv> updating drives is a nonsensical windows response
[02:46] <ejv> s/drives/drivers/
[02:46] <starte> ejv: well it worked for my internet connection
[02:46] <cheapie> ejv: Nice...
[02:46] <dannyfog> No, ubuntu is using the entire hard drive, I tried connecting it to ethernet so that it could repair system packages, but it still didnt work
[02:47] <cheapie> dannyfog: See if "ifconfig" mentions "eth0"
[02:47] <sunboy> does anyone know why virtualbox would crash ubuntu?
[02:47] <dannyfog> ok will let you guys know in one second
[02:47] <starte> dannyfog: id wipe the bitch then. honestly, something went really screwy with the code. but get someone's advice who actaully knows ubuntu
[02:47] <ejv> !language | starte
[02:47] <starte> dannyfog: unlike me
[02:47] <vite> Hi nice people of ubuntu
[02:47] <starte> ejv: nobody cares
[02:48] <johnnyjimm> Hi vite
[02:48] <starte> ejv: its not even a swear word
[02:48] <RandomizeR> i have a fresh installation of ubuntu server 11.10 set up as a LAMP server. i would like PHP's sendmail command to work, do i need to set up all of Postfix for that or is there a simpler way to do that?
[02:48] <zykotick9> sunboy: linus recently made some very stong remarks about to poor quality of vbox kernel stuff...
[02:48] <dannyfog> haha, yeah, I kinda wanna just wipe it but my brother says he REALLY needs to keep the files that are on it
[02:48] <ejv> the ops care, abide by the rules or you'll find yourself removed by an Op.
[02:48] <sunboy> zyko: wasn't doing this before.  Is there a version I should be installing?
[02:48] <cheapie> vite: You arrived just after somebody complained that they would kick a puppy if we didn't help them. We're just *usually* nice.
[02:48] <starte> dannyfog:did he use ubuntu one?
[02:49] <starte> cheapie: settle down
[02:49] <vite> I was wondering. regarding the U C, is there anyway of installing the clound on terminal + nodes... and just installing a lamp on the terminal without installing virtual instances
[02:49] <ejv> sunboy: https://www.virtualbox.org/report/12
[02:49] <vite> would it make the nodes work as one lamp?
[02:50] <dannyfog> No, he never used it. But I think something involving Wine messed it up, because he was trying to update the firmware to his mp3 player using an EXE on his computer and then the next time he tried it out it woulldnt boot
[02:50] <vite> or would I need to setup eucalyptus and install instances individually?
[02:50] <cheapie> starte: Yeah, I think I'm going insane from helping here for too long.
[02:50] <RandomizeR> i have a fresh installation of ubuntu server 11.10 set up as a LAMP server. i would like PHP's sendmail command to work, do i need to set up all of Postfix for that or is there a simpler way to do that?
[02:50] <Metroshica> I'm currently using grep to find a number in a file, saving it to a bash script, and then incrementingit by one. What can I use to then replace the original number with the modified one? I'm trying to use sed but I seem to be failing at it
[02:50] <zykotick9> !repeat | RandomizeR
[02:50] <starte> cheapie: because I really called you insane. quit putting words in my mouth. i wasn't actually serious but you take everything seriously apparantly
[02:50] <dannyfog> ifconfig isn't showing anything at all
[02:51] <Kcharle> HI, can anyone help me out? Just installed the newest version of ubuntu and im getting an error when i try to install updates
[02:51] <bobo37773> Metroshica, sed should work. What switches are you using?
[02:51] <ejv> how about
[02:51] <Sach> my cd drive is buzzing uncontrollably.  how do I force unmount?
[02:51] <ejv> number = $(expr $number + 1)
[02:51] <RandomizeR> zykotick9: sorry, the room is so busy i figured nobody heard the first one
[02:51] <Metroshica> bobo37773, I'm using the -e switch and that's it
[02:51] <starte> kcharle: im assuming you can connect to the internet
[02:52] <starte> kcharle: right?
[02:52] <bobo37773> Metroshica, Maybe the -i switch?
[02:52] <Kcharle> starte: yea, it says it has to install untrusted packagess
[02:52] <dannyfog> Starte what does it mean when i type ifconfig, and there's no response from the machine. It just goes to the next "root@chris-laptop:~#"
[02:53] <shadykhan> it is possible to install photoshop with wine correct?
[02:53] <MK13> dannyfog: try 'ifconfig -a' though you might wanna get used to ip
[02:53] <urlin2u> Kcharle, can you run a update in the terminal and pastebin the whole text
[02:53] <Sach> how do i force eject my cd?
[02:53] <zykotick9> !appdb | shadykhan
[02:54] <starte> kcharle: check the box for source code in the ubuntu register
[02:54] <Kcharle> starte: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815019/
[02:56] <zykotick9> Kcharle: your issue is with oneiric-backports, it might require a specific key to be added?  (i never used backports on ubuntu so not sure)
[02:56] <starte> kcharle: good lord
[02:56] <Kcharle> uh ohh
 thurfri, i dont have a cd drive ? <Sach> how do i force eject my cd?
[02:56] <Kcharle> that doesnt sound good?
[02:57] <OerHeks> Sach explain pls
[02:57] <Sach> OerHeks, my cd drive currently has a very loud, consistent buzz,
[02:57] <Sach> and I am unable to eject it
[02:57] <[[thufir]]> Sach: ?
[02:57] <starte> kcharle: go to system settings/softwaresources
[02:57] <[[thufir]]> OerHeks: ?
[02:58] <zykotick9> Sach: you could try running "eject"
[02:58] <Sach> tried that, didnt work
[02:58] <zykotick9> Sach: is it mounted?  "mount"
[02:58] <OerHeks> Sach, running a live-cd ?
[02:58] <zykotick9> OerHeks: good check!
[02:58] <Sach> yes, it's mounted
[02:58] <starte> dannyfog: systemsettings/softwaresources
[02:58] <Sach> not a live cd
[02:58] <Kcharle> starte: ok there
[02:59] <zykotick9> Sach: so "sudo umount /where/its/mounted" then "eject"
[02:59] <starte> dannyfog: what boxes are check? the first four?
[02:59] <dannyfog> not me,mine wont boot remember?
[02:59] <Kcharle> starte: the first 2, adn the last are checked
[02:59] <vite> so I guess it cant be done?
[03:00] <starte> dannyfog: ha sorry. got confused
[03:00] <Kcharle> starte: this is just a fresh install from the download btw i havent mucked with any settings
[03:00] <dannyfog> its ok, thanks
[03:00] <starte> kcharle:yeah check the first four boxes and uncheck the "source code" one
[03:01] <Merritt> Hi - Using the latest Ubuntu with Gnome Shell - seems as though the hotkey for overview is set to only the left side Windows key. Can this be set to the right side key? I've had no luck with google.
[03:01] <Sach> zykotick9, nothing happens, the cursor in the terminal just flashes at the end of that line (even though I pressed enter)
[03:01] <Kcharle> starte: ok now retry updates?
[03:01] <niccos> can anyone tell me why in a new install of ubuntu 11.10 gnome shell extensions (such as user theme) will not load?
[03:01] <starte> kcharle: yeah
[03:01] <starte> kcharle: *crosses fingers*
[03:01] <Kcharle> starte: thru terminal or graphical
[03:01] <zykotick9> Sach: ? well, good luck.
[03:02] <Sach> lol, thanks zykotick
[03:02] <OerHeks> Sach as a last resort: use a paperclip to open the tray, but that could damage the cd
[03:02] <starte> kcharle: update manager
[03:02] <niccos> any idea at all?
[03:02] <bobo37773> Metroshica, Did you figure it out?
[03:02] <Sach> OerHeks, thanks :)
[03:03] <Kcharle> starte: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. libgdata-common libgdata13
[03:04] <[[thufir]]> Sach: how about top? any runaway processes?
[03:04] <Sach> thurfri, top?
[03:04] <zykotick9> Kcharle: where does "apt-cache policy libgdata-common" report it's coming from?  repository i mean.
[03:05] <starte> kcharle: thru what app does that popup?
[03:05] <CaptAnon> Is it possibe to run GUIs without a desktop?
[03:05] <sbts-tv_> starte: try running alsamixer (amixer from the command line) and see if anything there helps
[03:05] <Kcharle> starte: the update manager
[03:05] <Kcharle> zykotick9:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/815023/
[03:05] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: alsamixer from cli is a lot easier
[03:06] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, Without a desktop? You mean X server?
[03:06] <starte> kcharle: i know this sounds stupid... but are you running the recommended driver for your system
[03:06] <sbts-tv_> zykotick9: that could be, but as I understand it M$ is responsible for 90% of the way the extant proticol behaves.
[03:06] <dies_irae> ei
[03:06] <dies_irae> Out of memory: Kill process 11311 (firefox) score 460 or sacrifice child
[03:06] <zykotick9> Kcharle: your issue with (again) with oneiric-backports
[03:06] <Kcharle> i should be? im runing it in VMWare if that means anything
[03:06] <dies_irae> Killed process 11427 (threaded-ml) total-vm:2099304kB, anon-rss:669880kB, file-rss:39264kB
[03:06] <starte> dies_irae: cool story bro
[03:06] <dies_irae> how does it determine ff to be first on the kill list?
[03:07] <Xourii> Is there a way to have some kind of bar at the bottom that shows what windows I have open?
[03:07] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: oh, i agreed with your origional statement (except who created it) ;)
[03:07] <starte> dies_irae: i have no clue. sorry
[03:07] <sbts-tv_> starte: if you use an irc client like irssi you can tab complete nick's :)
[03:07] <dies_irae> starte: retard
[03:07] <dies_irae> starte: don't talk to me
[03:07] <starte> sbts-tv: im currently running irssi
[03:08] <Kcharle> zykotick9: so whats that mean?
[03:08] <acerimmer> Xourii: yes in gnome...
[03:08] <starte> dies_irae: says the guy begging for help... asswipe
[03:08] <Xourii> How would I go about getting to that? (total n00b here, sorry)
[03:08] <acerimmer> Xourii: no apology req'd.  what version of ubuntu do you have.
[03:09] <starte> xourii: it'd be on the left of your screen i believe. I'm still kind of a noob too
[03:09] <starte> xourii: doubleclick on the currently running app and X number of windows will pop up
[03:09] <dies_irae> starte: 'cool story bro' does that look like a helpful response??
[03:09] <Xourii> I mean, like at the bottom of the screen, like in XP or 7
[03:09] <dies_irae> starte: this is not 4chan
[03:10] <acerimmer> Xourii: yes.  what version of ubuntu do you have???
[03:10] <Xourii> 11.04
[03:10] <zykotick9> Kcharle: "apt-cache search backports" do you see anything about a key? perhaps?  i have no idea man, sorry I never used backports on ubuntu.
[03:10] <starte> dies_irae: posting a random line of code without a question attached seemed like you made a mistake and accidentally posted that here
[03:10] <Kcharle> zykotick9: is there a way to disable it or something?
[03:10] <starte> dies_irae: my apologies for making a joke
[03:11] <dies_irae> how about waiting a lil for more?
[03:11] <zykotick9> Kcharle: software sources
[03:11] <starte> zykotick9: that's where he runs into problems tho
[03:11] <sbts-tv_> dannyfog: if there are some file that *really* need to be kept, just boot the machine from a live cd (like you would before doing a reinstall) then use file manager (nautilus) to mount the drive and copy wanted files off to another disk. should be easy, in many cases it is enough to make a complete copy of the /home directory
[03:11] <Xourii> I'm running 11.04
[03:11] <trism> dies_irae: http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer
[03:11] <zykotick9> starte: i'm not shocked ;)
[03:12] <CaptAnon> I think so bobo37773
[03:13] <dies_irae> trism: that wasn't my question.
[03:13] <dies_irae> after this last firefox OOM my sound is gone but Left/Right test do work
[03:13] <dies_irae> what happened?
[03:13] <zykotick9> CaptAnon: your question doesn't make much sense.  What do you want a GUI without a desktop?  A GUI is the desktop???
[03:13] <DesignerGuy> trying to run "apt-get install update-manager-core" and getting "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" ---- help?
[03:13] <sbts-tv_> dannyfog: if it blew up after running a windows exe, don't discount the possibility of malicious software. in theory it shouldn't happen, but who knows
[03:13] <Xourii> So is it possible?
[03:14] <dies_irae> all the cards are gone from systems settings, you know where you move up and down.
[03:14] <dies_irae> only remains pulse
[03:14] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, I think you need some kind of window manager to run a gui. Unless you wrote a gui that was also a wm.
[03:14] <dies_irae> how to fix this?
[03:14] <acerimmer> Xourii: you've got unity.  I've got gnome.  sorry.  I'm sure there's an applet, but someone who runs 11.04/11.10 may be able to help
[03:14] <dannyfog> sbs-tv, thanks for the advice about the live cd, I think I'll do it
[03:14] <trism> dies_irae: you never asked that question before now
[03:14] <Xourii> Ok, thanks
[03:14] <dannyfog> Will it matter if it was password protected??
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: try:  kilall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[03:15] <dies_irae> in 'Device Pereference' cads be gone
[03:15] <Kcharle> start, zykotick9 : just unchecked the 4th box in the software sources
[03:15] <dannyfog> sbs-tv: thanks for the advice about the live cd, I think I'll do it
[03:15] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, You can just use X if you want.
[03:16] <dies_irae> ActionParsnip: w00t
[03:16] <dies_irae> ActionParsnip: actually your first command failed but sound is back with only second command oO
[03:17] <juxta> i'm trying to get dropbox running on a headless ubuntu server. whenever I try to launch it, it just hangs at the console rather than giving any useful output - does anybody have any experience with it or suggestions?
[03:17] <Ziefin> Does Ubuntu use network manager?
[03:17] <sbts-tv_> Metroshica: sed is the right tool. try something like 'sed "s/$OldNumber/$NewNumber/" filename' once the output looks right to you, just add the -i option to edit inplace. you may need to have more than just the number to prevent a number elsewhere in the file from being killed.
[03:17] <zykotick9> Ziefin: yes
[03:17] <Merritt>  Hi - Using the latest Ubuntu with Gnome Shell - seems as though the hotkey for overview is set to only the left side Windows key. Can this be set to the right side key? I've had no luck with google. If I go Keyboard>System>Show the activies overview it will not accept a single key as a hotkey, only a combination (eg Super+Space)
[03:18] <Ziefin> I know this is an Ubuntu room...but what flavor of *nix is the best for webhosting besides RHEL
[03:18] <xangua> !ot | Ziefin
[03:18] <CaptAnon> bobo37773,  Can I not open up one gui program with out having a desktop?
[03:18] <bobo37773> Ziefin, You mean for a server?
[03:18] <dies_irae> ActionParsnip: now there are way too many devices :/
[03:19] <zykotick9> CaptAnon: to open ANY Xorg programs, you need Xorg (shocking)
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: That defaults your sound options to default
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: its a really good first move for sound
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: really? weird
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[03:20] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, I do not know what "desktop" means. But if you are saying what I think you are then zykotick9 is right.
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: what app do you need? There may be a cli version..
[03:20] <bobo37773> CaptAnon, What are you trying to do?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: or equiv
[03:22] <malikmasr> i am trying to setup a vpn server that i can connect my ipod to via pptp
[03:22] <malikmasr> i cannot find my error, but everytime i attempt  to connect i get a fail error from my ipod
[03:22] <malikmasr> can someone help me narrow down the causes?
[03:24] <dwon> CaptAnon: There's also xvfb - Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server
[03:24] <malikmasr> i used this guide http://eran.sandler.co.il/2010/08/30/pptp-vpn-on-ubuntu-10-04-for-your-iphone-ipad/
[03:25] <malikmasr> wow, i think it worked
[03:25] <CaptAnon> I would like to use ubuntu with out the gui(the desktop)
[03:25] <malikmasr> one sec
[03:25] <djcobra> i was wondering if anyone can help me setup a telnet server?
[03:25] <Guest68782> hi guise, i'm havig trouble with xubuntu 10.10, for somereason it says gedit isn't available im guessing this has something to do with my package list
[03:25] <MK13> djcobra: telnet for what...?
[03:26] <dies_irae> ActionParsnip: fixed, thanks
[03:26] <urlin2u> Guest68105, I think you want leafpad
[03:26] <djcobra> so i can remotely connect to my xubuntu box from work (using windows telnet)
[03:26] <sbts-tv_> dagerik: no shouldn't matter. you will just need to put in the password as you mount the drive. that is if it was drive level password. if just user password then won't matter at all.
[03:26] <MK13> djcobra: would be best to use ssh and then get a ssh client like putty for windows
[03:26] <urlin2u> Guest68782, I think you want leafpad
[03:26] <dwon> CaptAnon: Oh, that's easy.  Just get the "ubuntu server" distro (or the ubuntu "alternative" cd image---and then don't install X).
[03:26] <Guest68782> i think i dont
[03:27] <zykotick9> djcobra: FYI telnet sends all passwords in clear text, so if anyone eavesdrops on your connection - they have your password(s)
[03:27] <dwon> CaptAnon: Or install Debian. :)
[03:27] <sbts-tv_> dannyfog: no shouldn't matter. you will just need to put in the password as you mount the drive. that is if it was drive level password. if just user password then won't matter at all.
[03:27] <djcobra> okay
[03:27] <djcobra> i have sshd running but having trouble connecting to it
[03:27] <Guest68782> i type in sudo *etc et* gedit but it says no such package
[03:27] <urlin2u> Guest68782, gedit isn't ruh in xubuntu it is leafpad same thing
[03:27] <urlin2u> run
[03:27] <MK13> djcobra: any error messages?
[03:27] <djcobra> maybe i haven't set it up right
[03:28] <djcobra> when i try to login via my windows machine, putty disapears
[03:28] <pnorman> djcobra: can you connect from the machine to itself with ssh?
[03:28] <CaptAnon> dwon,  and how will I change between progams in this or will it be possible? The main reason I wan't to do this is to force myself to get better at the command line
[03:28] <zykotick9> Guest68782: sidenote: DON'T use sudo with GUI apps, use gksu instead.
[03:28] <MK13> djcobra: is the computer you want to connect to the server or desktop version of ubuntu?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: you can install gedit in xubuntu though ;)
[03:28] <pnorman> zykotick9: isn't it gksudo?
[03:28] <pnorman> !gksudo
[03:28] <djcobra> its a desktop
[03:28] <zykotick9> !gksu
[03:28] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, I know I was just telling them the stock set up.
[03:29] <Guest68782> zykotick9: thanks .-.
[03:29] <dwon> CaptAnon: LeftAlt-F1, LeftAlt-F2, LeftAlt-F3, etc. and/or you can install the "screen" package and use that.
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: similar but slightly different :)
[03:29] <dies_irae> where's firefox history in plain text??
[03:29] <dies_irae> I need it
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: logical
[03:29] <Guest68782> i mean sudo apt-get install sudo
[03:29] <dies_irae> I can't start firefox cuz got 400 tabs.
[03:29] <Guest68782> :|
[03:29] <zykotick9> pnorman: both should work
[03:29] <Guest68782> *sudo apt-get install gedit
[03:29] <Guest68782> DX
[03:30] <CaptAnon> cool, Thanks dwon
[03:30] <MK13> djcobra: how much have you already done w/ ssh?
[03:30] <dwon> CaptAnon: If you want to avoid using the GUI, you're probably better off using Debian, though.  Ubuntu works fine as a CLI-only distro, but Debian probably has more users who use it that way.
[03:30] <zykotick9> dwon: ;)
[03:30] <djcobra> MK13, i can login using: ssh (internal ip) in the xterm and connects
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: its stored in historyMINE.dat
[03:31] <djcobra> but having trouble when i'm in windows
[03:31] <CaptAnon> But I would like to return to normal after I improve my skills dwon
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: found this: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=509305
[03:31] <djcobra> i believe i have both ssh and sshd installed
[03:31] <MK13> djcobra: when you are windows, are you still in your local network?
[03:31] <zykotick9> djcobra: you'd need to forward port 22 (by default) to your ubuntu box from your router, to get outside connections
[03:31] <djcobra> yep
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: can you ping the system?
[03:31] <MK13> zykotick9: you keep stealing my thunder :)
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: are you connecting with an account on the allowed list?
[03:32] <SmashMan> Hello
[03:32] <djcobra> i've set up the router to forward to the xubuntu box
[03:32] <zykotick9> MK13: sorry ;)
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: if its on the LAN the forwarding won't matter
[03:32] <djcobra> oh... even if my windows box is on a different ip
[03:32] <CaptAnon> Can I not boot into CLI only?
[03:33] <MK13> djcobra: as long as it is on your lan port forwarding won't matter
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: each PC on the network will have a different IP
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: sure, add the boot option: text
[03:33] <djcobra> okay.. so why am i having trouble when i try to connect remotely (work)
[03:33] <flowerpot> While installing Chef, I had to modify my path to include a certain directory.  Since Chef relies on commands in this directory to do its business, and it looks like it assumes the path is set correctly, I want to make sure that this directory is always contained in the path whenever a command is run from any shell.  How can I do that?
[03:33] <MK13> djcobra: if you don't work at home then you most likely aren't on the same lan
[03:33] <djcobra> even if my router has been adjusted to forward to that xubuntu box
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: check the port forwarding in the router, you need to forward port 22/TCP to the IP of the system running the SSH service
[03:34] <MK13> djcobra: are you able to connect to it from another machine while at home?
[03:34] <djcobra> okay let me check
[03:34] <djcobra> MK13, yes
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: there are websites to scan for open ports which you can use to see if it's working
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: you may need to reboot the router too, some home grade routers need taht
[03:34] <zykotick9> flowerpot: see .profile
[03:35] <flowerpot> zykotick9, isn't that only for login shells?
[03:35] <cheapie> Quick question: can somebody explain the difference between a "thin client" and a "zero client"?
[03:35] <MK13> you can tell the popular problems to help fix... they get 3+ people helping, lol
[03:35] <pseudomander> Hey, could someone help me out with a problem I'm having logging in.
[03:36] <cheapie> pseudomander: What's the problem?
[03:36] <flowerpot> cheapie, sounds like jargon/buzzwords to me...a thin client is just a client that doesn't have a lot of software/hardware installed and usually exists only to interface with something else that does have the main stuff
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> cheapie: zero clients have no local OS, they boot via PXE and rely solely on the network
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: it's a thing
[03:36] <flowerpot> zykotick9, my goal is to ensure that the directory is included in the path for every possible shell
[03:37] <dies_irae> I was thinking a paper about this --> 'However, recent study of the VP4 protein has shown it to be highly conserved amongst many serotypes of Human rhinovirus,[11] opening up the potential for a future pan-serotype Human rhinovirus vaccine.'
[03:37] <dies_irae> oops
[03:37] <dies_irae> damn wrong chan
[03:37] <cheapie> ActionParsnip: So I *am* using a "zero client". Thanks!
[03:37] <pseudomander> I tried to add a code to my startup programs tab
[03:37] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, didn't know that!  thanks for explaining
[03:37] <zykotick9> flowerpot: and i think you'll find .profile will do that for you.  but i'm no 100%
[03:37] <CaptAnon> Cool, ActionParsnip  How would I go about that?
[03:37] <pseudomander> but I made an error in the code and can't login to remove it.
[03:37] <CaptAnon> can I just click a button during start up?
[03:37] <MK13> djcobra: what ip are you using to access your server while at work?
[03:37] <CaptAnon> No, That would be too easy
[03:37] <cheapie> CaptAnon: Go about what?
[03:37] <CaptAnon> booting in text mode
[03:37] <flowerpot> zykotick9, unfortunately bash only reads ~/.profile when it is invoked as a login shell
[03:38] <brandon123> anyone know if the last round of updates to 11.10 might have caused focus issues?
[03:38] <pseudomander> Is there any way to startx without it running the startup files?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> !text | CaptAnon
[03:38] <zykotick9> flowerpot: use .bashrc then?
[03:38] <cheapie> pseudomander: Not that I know of.
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> pseudomander: startup files like what?
[03:38] <zykotick9> flowerpot: i still believe it's .profile you want though...
[03:38] <CaptAnon> cool, Thanks very much, Now I am off into the unknown, Cheers ActionParsnip
[03:39] <zykotick9> flowerpot: the ~/bin PATH is established in .profile - that certainly applies to all terminals (login or not)
[03:39] <flowerpot> zykotick9, it seems ~/.bashrc is only invoked if the shell is interactive but not a login shell
[03:40] <Pyrs_wasp> hello!
[03:40] <pseudomander> a command I added to  system>>preferences>>startup applications
[03:41] <djcobra> did a port test... said it passed and it's stealth
[03:41] <MK13> djcobra: stealth means it's not accepting connections
[03:42] <zykotick9> djcobra: you want 22 to be open...
[03:42] <flowerpot> zykotick9, the trick, i guess, is that I don't really know where PATH is originally defined.  it doesn't seem like /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc cover all possible cases, but i could be wrong
[03:42] <djcobra> yes
[03:42] <sbts-tv_> pseudomander: in the login screen you can change to failsafe session type
[03:42] <cheapie> djcobra: Actually, stealth also means that it is simply not responding.
[03:42] <djcobra> was about to ask, how do you open it.. is there a script i need to edit
[03:42] <cheapie> djcobra: When you start a program that needs it, it should open...
[03:43] <djcobra> please bare with me.. i've been out of the linux game for awhile. college days.
[03:43] <djcobra> umm
[03:43] <cheapie> ?
[03:43] <zykotick9> flowerpot: where $PATH origionates is a bit of a mystery to me (and i've looked into it a couple of times).  I'd just try ~/.profile and test.
[03:43] <djcobra> for some reason it isn't open...
[03:43] <kah> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a windows 7 virtualbox
[03:43] <MK13> pseudomander: check /etc/xdg/autostart and see if what you added is in there?
[03:44] <kah> should i use 10 lts or 11?
[03:44] <cheapie> djcobra: What port is it, and what are you trying to run that listens on it?
[03:44] <kah> and should i use the windows installer?
[03:44] <Buhdabot> doesnt every path start at / which means root
[03:44] <djcobra> i'd like to open up port 22
[03:44] <djcobra> or 23
[03:44] <zykotick9> Buhdabot: every "absolute" path does, not relative paths ;)
[03:45] <cheapie> kah: Well, are you wanting to avoid updating for a while, or have the latest software?
[03:45] <dwon> filesystem paths and the PATH environment variable are two different things
[03:45] <cheapie> djcobra: For...?
[03:45] <phy1729> How does one disable Network Manager. I thought I had killed it; however it keeps reverting my iptables.
[03:45] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: zykotick9 the system wide path originates in /etc/environment
[03:45] <kah> I'm just looking to program with ruby on rails
[03:45] <MK13> djcobra: have you made sure it is forwarding to the correct internal ip? it could have changed if not static
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> kah: I'd use the latest stable
[03:45] <djcobra> ssh
[03:45] <kah> 11.10?
[03:45] <djcobra> MK13, yes. i've set it up in my router
[03:46] <cheapie> kah: Yes.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> kah: or take the plunge with 12.04 pre-release
[03:46] <kah> or long-term stable 10
[03:46] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: lol, not here: "0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 15 16:11 /etc/environment"
[03:46] <dwon> phy1729: apt-get remove network-manager
[03:46] <kah> and should i use the windows installer?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> kah: its released in April and is LTS
[03:46] <Buhdabot> whats the wm for 12.04 ?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> kah: no, mount the MD5 tested ISO in virtualbox and boot to it
[03:46] <phy1729> dwon: I thought I did that but let me make sure
[03:46] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, thank you!
[03:46] <cheapie> djcobra: And are you sure you have an ssh daemon running?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Buhdabot: in Gnome based ubuntu, compiz as usualy
[03:46] <dwon> phy1729: although don't do that if you're on a wireless network, unless you know what you're doing =)
[03:46] <zykotick9> phy1729: careful removing it!  if you define something in /etc/network/interfaces it will autodiable N-M from that interface
[03:46] <MK13> djcobra: do you have a firewall on the desktop machine?
[03:47] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, so if I add a directory to the $PATH defined in /etc/environment, it will be present in every shell no matter what?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Buhdabot: looks and feels similar to Gnome based ubuntu in 11.10..
[03:47] <phy1729> nope all wired and static IPs
[03:47] <Buhdabot> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[03:47] <djcobra> cheapie, yes i'm running it. i can login using my internal ip address in xterm
[03:47] <kah> ActionParsnip: I'll stick with 11 for now, upgrade later.. and what does mds stand for?
[03:47] <sbts-tv_> zykotick9: that is strange. it is on any machine I have worked on for the last 10 years
[03:47] <cheapie> djcobra: Are you behind a NAT?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Buhdabot: if you use a different desktop then the WM will be different
[03:47] <djcobra> MK13, is there a command that will display what i'm running
[03:47] <dwon> phy1729: Also, what zykotick9 said.  (I'm just trigger-happy when it comes to network-manager. :) )
[03:48] <cheapie> djcobra: "ps ax | less"
[03:48] <phy1729> hrm yea it did seem to do that
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> kah: MD5, its a test so you know the ISO you have is complete and consistent
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | kah
[03:48] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: yes. but you will need to at least logout and back in first, if not reboot
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> kah: it's MD5, not MDS
[03:48] <MK13> djcobra: not too sure on that one... could be quite a few firewalls or even iptables
[03:48] <djcobra> filter NAT in my router is unchecked.
[03:48] <dwon> djcobra: "ps fax | less" is a bit better; it gives you the process hierarchy
[03:48] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, cool.  thank you!
[03:48] <kah> Ok cool
[03:49] <cheapie> djcobra: Do you have multiple computers on this network?
[03:49] <kah> It would be neat is MIRC could have a conversation break down, for easier viewing
[03:49] <kah> or *irc
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> kah: there are logs of the channel
[03:49] <Buhdabot> ActionParsnip, breaks it down
[03:49] <kah> haha
[03:49] <Buhdabot> lol
[03:49] <djcobra> cheapie, yes i have multiple computers on the LAN
[03:50] <phy1729> All fixed, thanks dwon and zykotick9
[03:50] <cheapie> djcobra: Have you set it to forward to the correct computer?
[03:50] <sbts-tv_> djcobra: can you ssh to that machine from a different machine on your local network?
[03:50] <djcobra> cheapie, yes.  internal is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: can you connect over LAN ok?
[03:51] <dannek71> Hey all
[03:51] <cheapie> dannek71: Hi, what problem are you having?
[03:51] <djcobra> on my windows box using telnet i can connect to my ubuntu box fine using internal ip, however cannot connect when using my isp ip address
[03:51] <kah> ActionParsnip: hey, why wouldn't my ubuntu iso be legit?
[03:52] <cheapie> kah: That's not what MD5 is for - it's to make sure it's not corrupted.
[03:52] <djcobra> let me try using putty on the windows box (using internal ip) port 22 brb
[03:53] <sbts-tv_> djcobra: ssh and telnet are totally different things. and run on different ports.
[03:53] <MK13> kah: you didn't think ubuntu was free did you ;)
[03:53] <kah> cheapie: how would it get corrupted?
[03:53] <artichoku> ssh ftw!!!!
[03:53] <kah> MK13: haha, that would be a crime
[03:53] <cheapie> djcobra: If you're trying to connect to your external IP from inside your network, that's why it doesnt work...
[03:53] <shovell> how do you output the contents of the terminal to a log file?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> kah: its not a case of legit, the internet is not an incredibly reliable network and data can get damaged in transit
[03:54] <zykotick9> shovell: "ls > filename.txt"
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> kah: so you check the file so you know it is all ok
[03:54] <djcobra> putty doesn't seem to connect when using internal ip aswell
[03:54] <djcobra> just hangs
[03:54] <artichoku> djcobra
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: then your issue is not the router
[03:54] <artichoku> i just joined, may i ask what issue you are having
[03:54] <cheapie> kah: Sometimes packets will get corrupted, transfers will get mangled (especially over FTP)...
[03:54] <shovell> zykotick9, thanks is that as a program runs or just what is there
[03:55] <[[thufir]]> upgrading from an alternate cd brings up "getting new packages" which is a pain.  I opted for the networkless option.  hmm, maybe next upgrade just disconnect the ethernet cable or something?
[03:55] <kah> ActionParsnip: I see, cheapie: yeah, fair enough
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> kah: protocols like torrents add extra checking which can help get a good image
[03:55] <djcobra> telnet works fine in windows using the internal ip address
[03:55] <zykotick9> shovell: > is a terminal built-in
[03:55] <[[thufir]]> can I get all those new packages for an upgrade via torrent or something?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: is openssh-server installed on the server side?
[03:56] <djcobra> command to find out quick?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:56] <earlybirdd> what would be more stable windows running a vm of ubuntu or ubuntu running a windows vm
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: it'll either install or say its already in
[03:56] <zykotick9> djcobra: that actual cli command to find out would be "apt-cache policy openssh-server"
[03:56] <artichoku> earlybirdd
[03:56] <cheapie> kah: FTP is especially famous for mangling data. In fact, on older servers, it will get mangled by default...
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> earlybirdd: how do you mean 'stable'
[03:57] <artichoku> install ubuntu inside windows, or make a separate partition
[03:57] <earlybirdd> well ive got two laptops. A laptop server and my personal laptop.
[03:57] <earlybirdd> I wish to run both OS's on the server....as a file/web server....but I am punned into which OS I should go
[03:57] <[[thufir]]> if I were to just disconnect the ethernet cable before upgrading, would that omit the part where "getting new packages" before the upgrade occurs happens?  or would it just not be able to upgrade?
[03:57] <zykotick9> earlybirdd: i consider anyone using Windows to host VMs, as a little crazy myself.
[03:58] <kah> cheapie: yeah, well it's good to know about this, plus MD5 looks like it is a breeze
[03:58] <djcobra> openssh-server is already the newest version
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> earlybirdd: ubuntu server will use fewer resources so I'd virtualize ubuntu
[03:58] <earlybirdd> I would like to learn the ups and downs of both OS's as a file/web server but I want them to both have access to the same files
[03:58] <earlybirdd> is this possible?
[03:58] <cheapie> [[thufir]] If you have any packages installed that aren't included on the CD, the upgrade will probably fail.
[03:58] <artichoku> i prefer windows 2008sbs
[03:58] <artichoku> but ubuntu is more secure
[03:58] <cheapie> earlybirdd: Do you need them to run at the same time?
[03:58] <MK13> djcobra: have you only been able to connect to the ssh locally from the same computer?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: ok and what is the output of:  service ssh status
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: its as secure as you make it....
[03:59] <djcobra> ActionParsnip, ssh start/running, process 26533
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> earlybirdd: sure, if you set it up right
[03:59] <artichoku> true so true, linux just comes secure out of the box
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: thats teh bit you missed ;)
[03:59] <djcobra> MK13, yes i'm able to connect to while in the linux box
[03:59] <artichoku> windows exploitation is something that you have to chase down all the time
[04:00] <artichoku> always something, since MS is always updating their booboo's
[04:00] <MK13> djcobra: your ssh daemon might not be setup to listen on anything other than the localhost adapter
[04:00] <intok> Anyone play Osmos on a Geforce 6200(NV44a) I can't see any of the menu text or objectives text in the game
[04:00] <cheapie> artichoku: Yes, Windows is as secure as Microsoft makes it (not very), most Linux distros are as secure as you make them, and Gentoo... well, it will be secure if it ever finishes compiling.
[04:00] <djcobra> anyway to adjust that MK13 `
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: ok, run:  ssh localhost     so you get offered to continue connecting (lots of output)?
[04:01] <artichoku> ahahahaha
[04:01] <artichoku> sorry i looked away a second cheapie
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> intok: a few
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> intok: I don't play that game but I have gamed on the chip
[04:02] <djcobra> ActionParsnip, ssh <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:02] <djcobra> and it connects fine
[04:02] <intok> ActionParsnip any insight to the missing text? As stated, the game otherwise plays fine, but I can't change any options and can't read anything
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: ok that's good, we know the service is running and accepting connections
[04:03] <djcobra> yep internally :)
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> intok: let me search
[04:03] <djcobra> on the linux box
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: ok did you configure your firewall any?
[04:03] <artichoku> intok: iver never played the game, but does it offer the ability to change settings before the game starts
[04:03] <MK13> djcobra: check in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and look for an entry 'listenaddress' and let me know what that is
[04:03] <cheapie> artichoku: And, for (another) laugh about the same subject, here's dpkg's opinion about Gentoo: "Gentoo Linux causes global warming!  Needlessly recompiling everything uses power.  Fossil fuels  are used to generate that power.  See also <diminishing returns on bogomips>.  Hug a tree, use  Debian!
[04:03] <djcobra> MK13, okay
[04:04] <artichoku> omg cheapie
[04:04] <artichoku> lol
[04:04] <artichoku> you know, i miss mandrake
[04:04] <artichoku> mandriva's not the same
[04:04] <MK13> djcobra: the default is to listen to all interfaces, but yours might be different
[04:04] <intok> artichoku not allot, but it has some options, I've playedit on an Intel GMA900 and a Radeon HD2600XT
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: I loved mandrake
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: kde was good then :(
[04:04] <cheapie> artichoku: Maybe you should ask dpkg about that and see what he says - you can find him on #debian-bots.
[04:05] <djcobra> okay it has this: #ListenAddress ::
[04:05] <djcobra> #ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <cheapie> ActionParsnip: KDE3? I liked that too...
[04:05] <artichoku> intok: can you you kill any of the eyecandy in those settings? and also maybe change to window mode?
[04:05] <MK13> djcobra: then it should be listen on all adapters
[04:05] <djcobra> has # infront.
[04:05] <djcobra> yeah thats what i thought
[04:05] <artichoku> mmmm kde3
[04:06] <djcobra> maybe it needs to be restarted?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: mmmm
[04:06] <MK13> djcobra: if it is commented out it should use the default, which is to listen to all interfaces
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: try it, can't hurt
[04:06] <djcobra> whats the command again?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: sudo reboot
[04:06] <intok> artichoku don't remember, only have this to use right now and these are the default settings
[04:06] <djcobra> haha not the system
[04:06] <djcobra> can i just restart the sshd?
[04:07] <MK13> djcobra: service sshd restart?
[04:07] <MK13> can't check the command right now
[04:07] <martian> Anyone familiar with AutoSSH? I just can't seem to get it to work when using the same params as I do with normal ssh
[04:07] <djcobra> #ListenAddress ::
[04:07] <djcobra> #ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:07] <djcobra> opps
[04:07] <djcobra> sshd: unrecognized service
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> djcobra: if that fails:  sudo service ssh stop; sudo service ssh start
[04:07] <djcobra> k i'll reboot
[04:07] <FloodBot1> djcobra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <djcobra> sorry about that
[04:09] <artichoku> intok: without having it in front of me, it's really hard to say what to try
[04:09] <artichoku> how are your vid drivers?
[04:09] <artichoku> up to date?
[04:09] <artichoku> does it work with other games?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/mdv2006/desktop.jpg ;)
[04:09] <djcobra> argh... guess i'll reboot
[04:09] <djcobra> i'll do this tomorrow
[04:10] <djcobra> thanks for your help guys :)
[04:10] <artichoku> well thats different
[04:11] <artichoku> that's like windows 3.1 to xp
[04:11] <spursncowboys> Hi everyone.
[04:11] <intok> artichoku Nvidia 280.13 Other games that play fluently are NAEV, Aquaria, CaveStory+, Open Sonic, World Of Goo
[04:12] <artichoku> hrm....
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> intok: penumbra series is awesome
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> intok: also grab urban terror if you like counterstrike (it has wall jumping too)
[04:13] <spursncowboys> How do i open a .bin file
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: thats the default mandrake 6 desktop, good times
[04:14] <mordof> does ubuntu have a command to check what brand/type of RAM i currently have installed?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> spursncowboys: mark it as executable and run it, if it is nvidia drivers you don't need it
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> mordof: it will show type, not brand
[04:14] <mordof> ActionParsnip: good enough
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> as far as I remember
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> mordof: dmidecode may help
[04:15] <intok> ActionParsnip oh I know, before my C2D/ Geforce 8800GTS blew it's mobo I got through Penumbra and the Id games
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> penumbra is very worth the cash
[04:15] <mordof> ActionParsnip: oh hey, this is interesting :o
[04:16] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, I have a question for you: I've added /foo to the path defined in /etc/environment, and now if I type which bar then /foo/bar is returned.  However, sudo which bar returns nothing -- typing sudo foo says "sudo: foo: command not found"
[04:16] <artichoku> actionparsnip: sorry just looked. lots of pm's!
[04:16] <flowerpot> I'm sorry, disregard that - there was a typo.  I'll re-type:
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> mordof: its a great command
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> mordof: bios version and low stuff like that, good times
[04:17] <mordof> ActionParsnip: was trying to find out what brand of RAM i have - as i want to buy another 8GB it. I *think* this (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53427&vpn=CMX8GX3M2A1333C9&manufacture=Corsair) is currently what i have
[04:17] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, I have a question for you: I have a program bar in directory /foo.  I've added /foo to the path defined in /etc/environment and rebooted, and now which bar returns /foo/bar but sudo which bar returns nothing.  Moreover, bar works but sudo bar results in: "sudo: bar: command not found" -- do you have any idea what's wrong?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> mordof: could just open the case, you'll need to do that anyway to install it
[04:18] <mordof> ActionParsnip: room mate is asleep xD can't make noise :\
[04:18] <mordof> or rather, don't want to
[04:18]  * mordof shrugs
[04:18] <mordof> i'll wait til morning
[04:18] <[[thufir]]> cheapie: thx
[04:19] <artichoku> fyi, unity pisses me off
[04:19] <flowerpot> I've modified /etch/environment to include /foo in my PATH, but root's PATH doesn't include /foo.  It's bizarre.
[04:19] <mordof> artichoku: i disabled it
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> mordof: I'd check later ;)
[04:19] <artichoku> one friggin' compiz change and you're stuck in recovery mode for an hour
[04:20] <artichoku> i was trying out unity-rotated launcher
[04:21] <artichoku> it crapped itself and was stuck at the command line forever
[04:21] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: check out the manpage for sudo. from memory sudo, by default, clears the path. there are options to change that behaviour
[04:21] <mordof> >.<
[04:22] <c_nick> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 Oneric Ocelot But somehow Can i change over from Unity to the older GUI (sorry I am a bit in love with the old one)
[04:22] <intok> ActionParsnip Am I missing anything? http://www.gameolith.com/   http://www.desura.com/      http://www.playdeb.net/      http://www.quakelive.com/     http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/
[04:22] <artichoku> c_nick, when logging in, click the cog next to your name
[04:22] <c_nick> i did
[04:22] <artichoku> then choose ubuntu classic
[04:23] <c_nick> i get Destop 2D Desktop
[04:23] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: once again from memory, the best way to fix this would be to also add /foo to the path sudo uses. this should be configurable in /etc/sudoers I think
[04:23] <artichoku> go into compiz once you've done that
[04:23] <artichoku> set it up like you normally would have
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> intok: looks fine
[04:23] <artichoku> but i warn you
[04:23] <artichoku> compiz makes unity go boom
[04:23] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, I am baffled: sudo echo $PATH shows /foo is in $PATH, but sudo foo fails with "sudo: foo: command not found".  I'll check out the sudoers file
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: there is a guide on omgubuntu how to make it look like Gnome2.
[04:24] <c_nick> artichoku, I dont get Ubuntu Classic
[04:24] <flowerpot> although it's possible that sudo echo $PATH might be showing me my $PATH instead of root's
[04:24] <artichoku> what r your options, mine says ubuntu classic
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: personally I'd install xfce4 and use that desktop. Your Gnome apps will run just fine in xfce
[04:24] <Juggernaut> Hey guys. Quick question. I'm trying to execute a file in a different directory than my working directory. So I'm trying to execute a file in /xyz and the file name is /xyz/abc. But ./xyz/abc doesn't work.
[04:24] <Juggernaut> I think I'm missing a key concept somewhere
[04:24] <artichoku> booooo xfce!
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: try:  sudo -i    then run:  echo $PATH
[04:24] <artichoku> no it's not bad
[04:24] <artichoku> i'm just being an ass
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Juggernaut: is the file marked as executable?
[04:24] <artichoku> xfce just doesn't have enough eyecandy for me
[04:25] <artichoku> then again, i didn't play with it alot
[04:25] <c_nick> I am not an EyeCandy Person :D
[04:25] <Juggernaut> ActionParsnip: It executes using ./abc when I'm in its directory.
[04:25] <c_nick> I am a C Programmer :D :D :D
[04:25] <artichoku> then go for it!
[04:25] <intok> ActionParsnip artichoku Regnum will run on this 6200 as well, at absolute minimum settings, but it gets far too slow when more then like 10 people are around
[04:25] <artichoku> sudo apt-get xfce4
[04:25] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, /foo is included, but I think sudo -i preserves your own environment variables, so that would happen even if root's PATH didn't include /foo.
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: same, this is my desktop: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png
[04:25] <c_nick> i could personally do with Ubuntu Classic too
[04:25] <artichoku> downgrade to the 173 driver
[04:25] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: look at variable secure_path in man sudoers
[04:25] <artichoku> see if it makes a difference
[04:26] <mordof> artichoku: yeah, i like a certain degree of eye candy so many desktop environments are just "bleh" to me, lol
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: but you know root's path is right
[04:26] <artichoku> i find it hard to live without my compiz cube
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: you could add to the bottom of ~/.bashrc     export PATH=$PATH:/foo
[04:26] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, I notice that in sudoers, there's the line "Defaults    env_reset"
[04:26] <IceDingo> Juggernaut, leave the . off the front
[04:26] <Juggernaut> Oh
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: single desktop here, it's all I need
[04:26] <Juggernaut> I'll try that
[04:26] <c_nick> ActionParsnip, thats good Desktop :) And how is that less eye candy
[04:26] <mordof> artichoku: lol. compiz cube would mess me right up. i don't use workspaces
[04:27] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, there is no secure_path in /etc/sudoers for me
[04:27] <Juggernaut> IceDingo: That works! Many thanks
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: where is the eye candy?
[04:27] <artichoku> actionparsnip: it's not what i neeeeeed persay, but i want desperately
[04:27] <c_nick> Eye Candy = Good GUI :)
[04:27] <IceDingo> Juggernaut, no problem :)
[04:27] <artichoku> mine looks like a borg cube
[04:27] <mordof> ActionParsnip: your UI has images!!! = eye candy.. rofl
[04:27] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: no, leave that one alone. by default secure_path is set to </usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin so just add you /foo
[04:28] <artichoku> back in the day, some dood made an "OS" in QuickBASIC
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> mordof: like a wallpaper?
[04:28] <c_nick> jk man ! but seems nice
[04:28] <artichoku> that shit was hot, because all I had was DOS
[04:28] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: that info is from "man sudoers" there are a lot of settings that have defaults and will not be in the sudoers file.
[04:28] <mordof> ActionParsnip: well, i suppose if your UI supported gradients then it wouldn't need to be images
[04:28] <mordof> ActionParsnip: *shrugs* :)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: yeah but if you had resident aps you had to hack himem.sys to free more ram so your app would run
[04:28] <c_nick> artichoku, what r u using ?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> mordof: they are images, it's lxde + openbox
[04:29] <mordof> ActionParsnip: ahh ok
[04:29] <mordof> ActionParsnip: considered openbox at one point..
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> mordof: the default panel image is only 48pt high. I used image magic to stretch it so I could get a bigger lxpanel
[04:30] <c_nick> ActionParsnip, so how to do that ? at-get install openbox
[04:30] <artichoku> c_nick: this very second, unity is on
[04:30] <artichoku> but i did set up ubuntu classic
[04:30] <c_nick> artichoku, how ?
[04:30] <zykotick9> !notunity | c_nick
[04:31] <artichoku> c_nick: what do you mean?
[04:31] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, OK, so if env_reset is set and I also specify secure_path to be /foo + the default, the environment will be reset (as it is currently) but the PATH will be forcefully set to what I've specified, right?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: sure, you can log off then and log on to openbox session, if you want something like that I would install LXDE
[04:31] <yggdrasil> hi can sl
[04:31] <c_nick> ubottu replied
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[04:31] <artichoku> oooo c_nick: did you install 11.10 directly or did you upgrade?
[04:31] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: yes that is correct. don't forget to use sudoedit to edit the sudoers file, it saves you from disaster!
[04:32] <artichoku> that may be why i have ubuntu-classic option
[04:32] <artichoku> i upgraded
[04:32] <yggdrasil> hi ca someone tell me why when i do sudo halt it hangs and doesnt actually shut down the computr?
[04:32] <mordof> artichoku: heh - there's about 11 options on my user login from fiddling with stuff, it's such a mess
[04:32] <flowerpot> sbts-tv_, righto, i'll give it a try. thanks
[04:32] <almoxarife> given that a script i need to run crashes more than it runs and i have a choice between 64bit or 32bit libs, running the 64bit now, would 32bit be any different?
[04:32] <harish> hi
[04:32] <c_nick> artichoku, fucker installed it directly
[04:32] <artichoku> ah
[04:32] <artichoku> then do what ubottu said
[04:32] <c_nick> ok
[04:33] <c_nick> installing gnome-shell
[04:33] <harish> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:33] <artichoku> mordof: rofl
[04:33] <matt-someguy> i am getting an error installing ubuntu using the wubi.exe on windows 7
[04:33] <WoC> I'm trying to compile a irc client, but the configure script can find glib-config, shouldnt that be part of libglib-dev ? or what should i install to get glib-config ?
[04:33] <sbts-tv_> flowerpot: I think that sudoedit still defaults to useing vi as an editor, you may want to either read up on using vi, or check the manpage for sudoedit to find out how to use a different editor with it
[04:33] <artichoku> don't you wish ubuntu would clean up out messes
[04:33] <zykotick9> c_nick: gnome-shell = gnome3, gnome-panel = similar to gnome2
[04:33] <harish> hi arti
[04:33] <yggdrasil> hi ca someone tell me why when i do sudo halt it hangs and doesnt actually shut down the computr?
[04:33] <matt-someguy> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'F:\\wubildr'
[04:33] <WoC> dang... s/can find/can not/g
[04:33] <matt-someguy> -_-
[04:33] <artichoku> matt-someguy: go into windows and repartition
[04:34] <artichoku> then do a side by side install
[04:34] <mordof> artichoku: i somehow ended up on "User Defined Session" by chance, i was fiddling with compiz and i created a conflict that completely shut down Unity, lol.. I was so happy xD somehow that glitch got saved. Using AWN + compiz now
[04:34] <artichoku> and skip wubi altogether
[04:34] <yggdrasil> thismhappens on 2 of my b0xes
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> matt-someguy: I suggest you grab the ISO, MD5 test it, mount it using magic disk or daemontools and run Wubi frmo there
[04:34] <matt-someguy> artichoku: i am a little less technical than that...
[04:34] <mordof> artichoku: couldn't tell you for the life of me how to do it again, hah
[04:34] <artichoku> mordof: i love awn manager
[04:34] <mordof> yeah, it's nice
[04:34] <c_nick> zykotick9, ok its happening..
[04:34] <matt-someguy> ActionParsnip: k, thanks, i'll take a look at it
[04:35] <c_nick> one if i log out should i see an option ?
[04:35] <artichoku> matt-someguy: go to control panel>administrative tools>storage> right click on windows partition>shrink volume> make it whatever size you want
[04:35] <sbts-tv_> yggdrasil: you need sudo poweroff *not* halt. halt just stops the machine, not power it down
[04:35] <c_nick> logging out and seeing
[04:35] <WoC> yggdrasil init 0 also works
[04:35] <mordof> poweroff?
[04:36] <mordof> i've been using shutdown -P every time not knowing there was another way, lol
[04:36] <artichoku> init 0 FTW!!!!!
[04:36] <yggdrasil> awesome
[04:36] <WoC> :)
[04:36] <yggdrasil> thank u i have always done halt
[04:37] <matt-someguy> artichoku: still is a pain in the ass, and i still don't know how to install as a side by side, hence the wubi
[04:37] <ZeloZelos> in xchat is there a way to make it stop telling me when someones name has changed?
[04:37] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: i agree with you, BUT why does "shutdown -h now" power off the machine?
[04:37] <artichoku> wubi is much more a pain in the ass
[04:37] <artichoku> you could install inside windows
[04:37] <artichoku> if you mount the image with daemon tools
[04:37] <artichoku> then choose to install inside windows
[04:37] <artichoku> and you won't have to worry with wubi
[04:37] <Merritt> Using Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME Shell - I want to set my right Windows/Super key to trigger the activities overlay, however if I go Keyboard > Shortcuts > System > "Show the activies overview" , it will not accept a single key as a hotkey, only a combination (eg Super+Space). Any ideas?
[04:38] <WoC> Sorry for the repeat but i made some major typos... I am trying to compile a irc client, but the configure script can not find glib-config, should not that be part of libglib-dev ? or what should i install to get glib-config ? or is there some other packages that would provide glib-config ?
[04:38] <matt-someguy> ok....
[04:38] <artichoku> then when yur done playing with it, just uninstall like you would anything else
[04:38] <mordof> ZeloZelos: yes.. i have no idea how though, lol
[04:38] <artichoku> it's be in your programs and features list
[04:38] <artichoku> it'l*
[04:38] <matt-someguy> but would it be running as its own OS if i botted it, or would it be running inside windows
[04:38] <matt-someguy> booted*
[04:38] <sbts-tv_> zykotick9: fron the shutdown manpage "-h     Requests that the system be either halted or powered off after it has been brought down, with the choice as to which left up to the system."
[04:38] <artichoku> yup
[04:38] <artichoku> as it's own os
[04:39] <zykotick9> matt-someguy: Wubi runs inside of windows
[04:39] <artichoku> you get the option when you're powering on
[04:39] <matt-someguy> ok, sounds good
[04:39] <Hasselsaurus> Wubi doesn't run inside of Windows
[04:39] <matt-someguy> i'll take a look at it
[04:39] <Hasselsaurus> it installs inside of Windows
[04:39] <zykotick9> sbts-tv_: thanks ;)
[04:39] <artichoku> whether you want to boot in windows or ubuntu
[04:39] <Hasselsaurus> but runs natively
[04:39] <matt-someguy> thanks
[04:39] <Hasselsaurus> it runs *almost* as fast as a native install
[04:39] <artichoku> almost
[04:39] <matt-someguy> now i have to download the ISO
[04:39] <matt-someguy> lol
[04:39] <malikmasr> if i have a vpn server setup on ubuntu, is there anyway i can see a log of ip addresses that have connected to my vpn?
[04:40] <artichoku> i still say you should install on a partition
[04:40] <artichoku> you'll get irritated with it
[04:40] <artichoku> i did
[04:40] <artichoku> you also can't share windows files
[04:40] <matt-someguy> ok?
[04:40] <Hasselsaurus> I use Wubi for temporary, short-term installations. Partition/wipe whole for long-term
[04:40] <sbts-tv_> malikmasr: /var/log/auth.log and maybe others
[04:40] <artichoku> so get your jump drive ready to move files
[04:40] <Hasselsaurus> or Dropbox
[04:40] <artichoku> because you can't mount windows with wubi
[04:40] <Hasselsaurus> true
[04:41] <matt-someguy> well, i am using ubuntu to learn about Unix systems as i need to learn it for IT jobs
[04:41] <matt-someguy> so i won't really be using it for years to come or anything
[04:41] <artichoku> i agree hasselsaurus, like i did a wubi for 11.10 before i upgraded
[04:41] <Hasselsaurus> In that case - I suggest you try using several different distros. Wubi may be the right choice for you to easily test it out, and wipe it if you screw up/want something new
[04:41] <artichoku> just to make sure i liked it
[04:42] <AOPS> uuuuuu
[04:42] <malikmasr> sbts-tv, it doesnt seem to contain the ip address of the clients
[04:42] <artichoku> matt-someguy, you may want to try debian too, as ubuntu spawned from it
[04:42] <zykotick9> matt-someguy: fyi, ubuntu is NOT a good representative of Unix-like OSes.
[04:42] <Scrabbilisk> what is then?
[04:43] <artichoku> i love ubuntu
[04:43] <matt-someguy> artichoku: i also intend to use freeBSD and looking into arch, however i cannot get arch to run through the VM yet
[04:43] <mordof> ZeloZelos: yes.. i have no idea how though, lol
[04:43] <mordof> oops
[04:43] <mordof> ZeloZelos: sorry, lol.. wrong terminal xD (just hit up + enter_
[04:43] <artichoku> freeBSD is def unix-like
[04:43] <ZeloZelos> in xchat is there a way to make it stop telling me when someones name has changed?
[04:43] <artichoku> but don't expect anything pretty
[04:43] <malikmasr> sbts-tv_ it doesnt seem to contain the ip address of the clients
[04:43] <ZeloZelos> oops
[04:43] <artichoku> it's down and dirty IMO
[04:44] <matt-someguy> zykotick9: i only need to learn about Unix for IT jobs like data rescuses and server stuff
[04:44] <zhownx> hi all... I want to connect ad-hoc with cli... the host is running windows... any idea?
[04:44] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: right click the #ubuntu channel on the left, check for the option (sorry i don't use xchat anymore, so can't be specific)
[04:44] <artichoku> for that matter, just download putty and get a free shell account
[04:44] <matt-someguy> ZeloZelos: do you have the source code?
[04:44] <artichoku> that's how you're going to be doing server stuff anyways
[04:44] <artichoku> remotely
[04:45] <sbts-tv_> malikmasr: strange, auth.log should have ip addresses of any machines that try to connect and get auth from the server. having said that I don't play with vpns so I may not be much help. virtually all logfiles on the system should be in /var/log though. btw you may need to be root to see everything
[04:45] <matt-someguy> artichoku: i'll take that into consideration
[04:45] <mordof> what's the cli name for the disk utility to resize/format partitions?
[04:45] <mordof> (the gui program)
[04:45] <mordof> if there is one
[04:45] <matt-someguy> ZeloZelos: if you have the source code, just alter the code to remove that part and re-compile
[04:45] <malikmasr> sbts-tv_ i am root, maybe i have to enable loggin?
[04:45] <ZeloZelos> gparted
[04:45] <mordof> or should i use gparted?
[04:45] <malikmasr> logging
[04:45] <artichoku> gparted, good stuff
[04:46] <ZeloZelos> matt-someguy hehee...yeah right.
[04:46] <mordof> can gparted be run in ubuntu?
[04:46] <mordof> or does it always require me to restart
[04:46] <artichoku> i've used gparted in ubuntu
[04:46] <artichoku> can't say i remember how
[04:46] <artichoku> lol
[04:46] <Lesovy> it is pretty simple
[04:46] <mordof> oh hey, it's in the repos!
[04:46] <mordof> i thought it was always an iso for reboot!
[04:46] <matt-someguy> ZeloZelos: your new to coding, huh? just alter it to where user can define if he wants to see it, if true, displays name changes, if false, hides.
[04:46] <zykotick9> mordof: in regard to your origional question, the cli version of gparted is called parted
[04:47] <mordof> zykotick9: ok, thanks :)
[04:47] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: it's already an option built into xchat BTW
[04:47] <artichoku> c_nick: hows your progress
[04:48] <matt-someguy> hell if i know if it is
[04:48] <matt-someguy> lol
[04:48] <matt-someguy> i am using Xchat-WDK
[04:48] <neo_> good n..
[04:48] <OKTOKT> I have a bunch of *.pcf fonts, where would I install these for use with all users?
[04:48] <ZeloZelos> i found where you can turn off/on join messages...its nbd though i was just wondering
[04:48] <OKTOKT> Just /usr/share/fonts/?
[04:49] <mordof> awe man
[04:49] <mordof> i can't resize my /home at the moment :\ lol
[04:49] <artichoku> i swear if the adobe suite would work properly on linux, i'd never boot up to windows again
[04:51] <artichoku> bbrb
[04:51] <CPhoenix> artichoku: very, very true
[04:51] <mordof> is there a reliable to unmount /home while i'm logged in? xD
[04:51]  * mordof wants to resize /home partition
[04:51] <christian27> hello.  i installed 11.10 coming from 10.04.  11.10 cannot read a filesystem for my second hard drive.  i can't remember what type of filesystem it is.
[04:51] <mordof> without rebooting, lol