[02:34] <Kerr> how can i get hardware rendering with my nvidia card?
[02:34] <ggg> thanks
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Kerr, installed the driver yet ?
[02:35] <Kerr> currently using nv.
[02:35] <Kerr> migrated from sarge 'cause of a hdd crash
[02:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !midi
[02:35] <ubotu> midi is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> !nvidia
[02:36] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:36] <Kerr> thanks
[02:36] <Travisty> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this issue with AmaroK???
[02:36] <Travisty> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:36] <Travisty> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.
[02:36] <Travisty> .
[02:37] <kvantti> hi! some guy gave me the address for the link which contains the solve for wolfenstein et no sound problem in ubuntu. are you still there? i need to get that address again, thanks.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, what does it look like  ? part of it ?
[02:38] <lightbright> Talisker: how did it work out with rsync?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> we can probably guess
[02:38] <kvantti> wickedpuppy i have no idea. i was very tired yesterday..
[02:38] <laszlok> Travisty: are you trying to play an audio cd?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, perhaps firefox remembers
[02:39] <kvantti> wickedpuppy i even didn't have a look at it. i'l try to find it myself..
[02:39] <Travisty> no, I receive that error when ever I launch AmaroK.
[02:39] <JBBA> okay...i'm really new to linux.. how do i get something to install through a tgz file or folder or whatever?
[02:40] <laszlok> Travisty: try using a different engine
[02:40] <jnymo> so.. do you guys go with all the repositories on that list? or just some?
[02:40] <laszlok> Travisty: you'll probably get better help if you ask in #amarok
[02:40] <JBBA> does anyone know?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, you don't use source file ... check out system -> admin -> synaptic
[02:41] <Alinux> howto make Gnome more faster?
[02:41] <ubuntu> hey
[02:41] <JBBA> thankyou very much
[02:41] <ubuntu> hey guys
[02:41] <ubuntu> im new
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, get more ram
[02:41] <ubuntu> plz help
[02:41] <bimberi> navarone: (sry, got called away) as it says, some of the repositories "should only be used with caution and if you know what you are doing!"
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, i can see .. ask in one line
[02:41] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, 512
[02:41] <lightbright> bye everyone :)
[02:42] <ubuntu> ok
[02:42] <Alinux> I have a laptop
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, so is mine ... its fine here
[02:42] <JBBA> then what do i do in there?
[02:42] <ubuntu> i am trying to run or download aim or something so i can get on my screen name but im running on a LIVE-CD and i dont know if this is possible
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, p4 2 gig ... 512 ram
[02:42] <Travisty> I get the same error when changing engines. I'll ask in the AmoroK channel. Thanks
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, install whatever you want to
[02:42] <Siph0n> ubuntu: just use Gaim?
[02:42] <Siph0n> ubuntu: it comes with it i think?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, gaim should be in the live cd
[02:42] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I give up, what is it?
[02:43] <jnymo> ubuntu: you'll have to to it again, each time you reboot
[02:43] <ubuntu> ok i opened it
[02:43] <chem199> I have a question about a problem I am having installing ubuntu, does anyone here think they can help me?
[02:43] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, 2700 MZ, my question is there some ways to get gnome faster?
[02:43] <JBBA> what i wanted wasn't in there...i'm looking for thunderbird
[02:43] <ubuntu> i know im just testing ubuntu out before i partition
[02:43] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?
[02:43] <Alinux> without hardware upgrade.
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> chem199, ask ... if nobody answers then nobody knows
[02:43] <ubuntu> ok im in "gaim"
[02:43] <cyphase> The_Isle_of_Mark
[02:43] <ubuntu> but how do i log onto my aim account?
[02:43] <navarone> bimberi> thanks...i got one made with the basic ones and one or two extras...but I think just switching to almost all ca archives may help...I just saved to text file...no hurry to much around yet...its late and I want to be thinking clearly...<s>
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, get more ram or use xfce , fluxbox ... gnome is sluggish ...
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, create an account ?
[02:44] <pr3vi0uz> u have too add the acoount for  which u wanna use  like aim,yahoo.msn
[02:44] <chem199> I am installing ubuntu breezy, and after I type in my username and password it hangs at 25% and never moves, can anyone shed some light on how to fix this?
[02:44] <Alinux> or use puppy linux ? :D
[02:44] <ubuntu> ok i typed in my screen name and password and protocol "AIM/ICQ"
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, up to you ...
[02:44] <zapada> can someone please send me a 56k modem that doesnt need drivers?
[02:44] <ubuntu> what is an alias?
[02:44] <meheren> can som1 tell me how to move file using command line?
[02:44] <bimberi> navarone: :).  Best to only have the non-ubuntu repos enabled for installs, not (dist-)upgrades
[02:44] <cyphase> The_Isle_of_Mark, you there?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> meheren, mv
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: ctrl+a, then click "add" select your account, input login information, and then get the account online.
[02:45] <ubuntu> im lucky i found this program
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> chem199, your user name and pasword ... which part of the install ?
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: it is a nickname. instead of your sign in name.
[02:45] <jvai> gnomebaker stalls while burning audio.. >:(
[02:45] <navarone> bimberi> I don't go for major changes..I am a firm beliwver in if it aint broke...leave it
[02:45] <JBBA> what i was looking for wasn't in there
[02:45] <chem199> the last part
[02:45] <ubuntu> can it just be ubuntu
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, what are you looking for ?
[02:45] <dabaR> meheren: ubotu will tell you
[02:45] <JBBA> THunder Bird
[02:45] <meheren> soo for an example if i wass to move /home/test to /home/meheren/ the i would type mv /home/test /home/meheren/?
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, thunder bird is definitely in repos
[02:45] <bimberi> navarone: you too eh :)
[02:45] <chem199> wickedpuppy: if i try to restart it says there is no os on the computer
[02:45] <JBBA> okay
[02:46] <ubuntu> i love this os
[02:46] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?
[02:46] <ubuntu> ive been windows all my life
[02:46] <jvai> i never thought gnomebaker would stall the whole hoary, i had to hard reset
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, search for mozilla
[02:46] <ubuntu> i dont get any of this yall are talking about
[02:46] <JBBA> okay thnx
[02:46] <navarone> bimberi...my win2k setup has survived 2 years or more with no major troubles...I only install the programs that time has taught me to trust
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, the switch will take some times to get used to ... be patient
[02:47] <ubuntu> ok i tried to log in and it said incorrect nickname or password
[02:47] <ubuntu> im pretty sure my pass is right..
[02:47] <dabaR> jvai: you can try k3b, or nautilus burns data cds and dvds too.
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, then your username is wrong
[02:47] <pingswept> Hi all. Is there a way that I can verify a burned iso image? I've verified the iso file using md5sum, but I can't get any machine to boot off the CD. (I can browse the disk and read the few text files, though.)
[02:47] <ubuntu> is that the username i am logged in as?
[02:47] <jvai> no, k3b,, i want all gnome apps
[02:47] <dabaR> what alias?
[02:47] <ubuntu> yes
[02:47] <dabaR> jvai: ok, cool, feel free to do as you please.
[02:47] <ubuntu> i think i am in "root"
[02:48] <dabaR> OK, are you asking about an alias in gaim, ubuntu?
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, what does root got to do with aim ?
[02:48] <bhearsum> every time i use aptitude it wants to remove a TON of core packages. i've tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but that doesn't change anything.
[02:48] <bhearsum> its only aptitude that does it, not apt-get
[02:48] <ubuntu> i dont know.. im not good at this
[02:48] <dabaR> bhearsum: use sudo apt-get remove to remove single packages.
[02:48] <pr3vi0uz> pingswept is  it being burned as Image ?
[02:48] <bhearsum> dabaR: i'm not removing packages...i'm trying to get aptitude to STOP trying to remove most of my system
[02:48] <ubuntu> protocol = aim screenname = thisis1crazyboy password = (mypass) and alias = what
[02:48] <dabaR> bhearsum: it is a feature.
[02:49] <bhearsum> i know its a feature.
[02:49] <navarone> bhearsum> I had similar concerns today when trying to remove bittorrent...it listed ubuntu-desktop as something it had to remove...<?>
[02:49] <dabaR> bhearsum: ok, then, what are you asking?
[02:49] <bhearsum> navarone: bittorrent..hmm. i did recently install that
[02:49] <bhearsum> dabaR: i'm trying to get it to stop doing that
[02:49] <pingswept> pr3vi0uz: I believe so. It comes out looking like a normal CD with a hierarchy of files, rather than a data CD with one big .iso file on it.
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, you leave alias blank
[02:49] <ubuntu> oh
[02:49] <dabaR> bhearsum: why, that is what it does. use apt-get for the other task.
[02:49] <bhearsum> dude.
[02:49] <bhearsum> nevermind.
[02:49] <Knowerrors> Anyone here ever use Linspire?
[02:49] <Howdy125> I removed evolution and it removed my desktop.
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, i can't help ya much there ... i only use gaim for icq and msn
[02:50] <Alinux> simple aptitude howto ?
[02:50] <Howdy125> Knowerrors, I have
[02:50] <navarone> bhearsum> does it list ubuntu-desktop to be removed because bittorrent is part of default packages installed and it considers itself part of it?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, wrong channel ? #linspire
[02:50] <dabaR> Alinux: ask what you would like to know, I can tell you a few things...
[02:50] <ubuntu> WICKED!!
[02:50] <dabaR> Or others too
[02:50] <ubuntu> TY !!!!!!!
[02:50] <ubuntu> IT WORKED!!
[02:50] <Knowerrors> I went to # linspire, pretty dead in there
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> ok ok .. pls don't shout
[02:50] <ubuntu> ok 1 more question
[02:50] <bhearsum> navarone: it just has a huge list of packages to remove
[02:50] <ubuntu> sorry wicked
[02:50] <bhearsum> navarone: is there any way to find out what package is causing it?
[02:51] <dabaR> bhearsum: is ubuntu-desktop one of the packages?
[02:51] <Knowerrors> Howdy125: how does the speed of Linspire compare to ubuntu?  I heard its was slow to boot and desktop speed lagged compared with most linux distros
[02:51] <bhearsum> no
[02:51] <navarone> bhearsum> I figures as much when i look at the dependencies...I wisely left it I think...lol
[02:51] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?
[02:51] <ubuntu> well.. do you think that my internet connection is slow just in ubuntu or is it just because im on a live cd?? cuz i am on DSL and pages take awhile to load
[02:51] <dabaR> bhearsum: is your question maybe why it is doing that?
[02:51] <bhearsum> my question is how to get it to stop doing taht
[02:51] <Alinux> dabaR, I use the main apt-get commands so I heard about dselect and aptitude, dselect is not simple for me... so I would like to learn basical thinks in aptitude.
[02:51] <bhearsum> that, rather
[02:51] <dabaR> ok
[02:51] <Howdy125> Knowerrors, Linspire is very slow compaired to Ubuntu.
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, live cd ... cd is slower than harddisk .. :P
[02:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> gah, you work in an environment for years and never configure sound...then you want midi playback and BANG brick wall...who can help me get this stinking midi to work?
[02:52] <ubuntu> ok so its not my internet?? if i were to install ubuntu onto my c drive it would run beter
[02:52] <SCMark> Alinux: you should try synaptic
[02:52] <navarone> dabaR>I was saying how when trying to uninstall bittorrent in synaptic it tells me it has to remove ubunut-desktop...with no mention of bittorrent I might add...weird
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, definitely ...
[02:52] <ubuntu> P.S. - sorry about my name..
[02:53] <ubuntu> (its lovely but im a noobie)
[02:53] <Alinux> SCMark, yes I know, but I would like to learn something non gui :)
[02:53] <dabaR> Alinux: well, aptitude can be used similar to apt-get. When you know a package name, you can type: sudo aptitude install packageName. To remove,  sudo aptitude remove packageName. to search aptitude search packageName. YOu can also type in just sudo aptitude, and use the graphical interface.
[02:53] <dabaR> navarone: not really weird. Here is how it works, Alinux you listen to this part too.
[02:53] <Alinux> dabar very similar to apt-get :)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, man aptitude ? :P
[02:54] <infamus> ok all i have wine installed, and cannot find it to run it in any of my folders at all, does anyone know the default location i should go to run it? or is there something more sinister i need to do
[02:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> can anyone help me troubleshoot my midi playback?
[02:54] <SCMark> Alinux: just type "?" in aptitude
[02:54] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, man after simple howto ok :)
[02:54] <dabaR> When a package is installed with aptitude, aptitude remembers what packages were installed as dependencies. Then when you remove the package with aptitude, it removes all installed dependencies that came with it.
[02:54] <steven_> hey everyone... i am a little puzzled about something.  i downloaded the java jdk 1.5 verison (bin) from the sun site.  i used the fakeroot to create a deb java package.  After i installed the package, I went to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun and typed in java -version.  i was expecting to see java verison '1.5....'; but, i get java verison 1.4.2.  Does anyone know why this is the case?
[02:54] <kvantti> what about the support for dvb-t standard digital television card support in ubuntu? i wonder if any european user here owns and runs that kind of hardware?
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> infamus, just type wine ? if you got it from the repos and installed it via apt-get
[02:54] <agabus_> i need some help with modprobe. i am trying to setup my new wireless adapter for my laptop. but long story short since i messed up some of the configuration before hand i have some trouble.
[02:54] <jnymo> ok.. I have this question.. it's a little long winded though..
[02:55] <Alinux> dabaR, reat...I'm copyng :)
[02:55] <Alinux> great
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> steven_, ls -l java ... what you get ?
[02:55] <navarone> dabaR> does that mean it can break dependencies of other packages?
[02:55] <jnymo> erm.. firrst.. whats that xchat command to make commands go into the chat?
[02:55] <dabaR> ubuntu-desktop is a package that is really only a list of dependencies. When you remove any package that is its dependency, it gets removed too, as it can not be on the system any more, as one of its dependencies is uninstalled.
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, you don't paste here ... pastebin
[02:56] <agabus_> when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper i get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found". could someone please help me load ndiswrapper into the modprobe.
[02:56] <dabaR> If you ever install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude, and then try to uninstall  one of the packages that came with it, all other packagfes that came with it will be pulled with ubuntu-desktop, using the first rant rule above.
[02:56] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: I know, but thats directly related to my problem.. that xchat command used to work, but now it doesn't
[02:56] <kvantti> i am going to get a ads hybrid card for christmas. i hope i can make it run..
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, copy paste will do
[02:56] <dabaR> infamus: just type wine programName in a terminal.
[02:57] <navarone> dabaR> I am just gonna leave it... I gave ubuntu 14 gb fora  reason...<s>
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> navarone, i give it all my HD
[02:57] <infamus> dabaR: thanks
[02:57] <Alinux> dabaR, aha.. good... everything clear.
[02:57] <agabus_> anyone? im sure its something simple...
[02:57] <SCMark> is it possible to open the latest quicktime movies with mplayer?  I know VLC can
[02:57] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: I have nothing to copy and paste.. its just that many things on my desktop that sent commands to bash are now broken because the paths in bash are messed up or something...
[02:57] <Ep|phany> hi i installed gstreamer0.8-mad so i could use mp3 filles with amorok but now i cant control the volume and when i click the sound icon it tells me theres nothing registered and i have to run gst-register
[02:57] <dabaR> jnymo: /exec -o command
[02:57] <Ep|phany> anyone have any ideas?
[02:57] <dabaR> jnymo: #flood
[02:57] <kvantti> navarone i got ubuntu on a 160 gb partition. it will really get crowded when i get that mpeg2 enconding dvb-t card ;)
[02:57] <dabaR> I have an idea, unrelated to your qeustion./
[02:58] <ubuntu> wickidpuppy: how do i go to this server
[02:58] <steven_>  ls -l java*
[02:58] <steven_> total 0
[02:58] <steven_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-11-26 23:43 javaws -> ../bin/javaws
[02:58] <navarone> wickedpuppy> I have win2k on primary drive and some windows partions set up on second drive and ubuntu using the free space... I found that way easier to do. The auto partitioning worked great
[02:58] <jnymo> hi
[02:58] <ubuntu> i dont even know how i got here in the first place.. i accidentally clicked somethin and popped up here
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, what ? you are in this server now
[02:58] <dabaR> Ep|phany: gst0.8-register
[02:58] <jnymo> ok.. that worked
[02:58] <ubuntu> wel yea but if i have to leave
[02:58] <navarone> lol@kvanti
[02:58] <ubuntu> can i ... put it in favs or something?
[02:58] <Bac9> tali: ping
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, go to X-chat -> Server list
[02:59] <malv> windows and ubuntu report different times
[02:59] <nickrud> Ep|phany, gst-register-0.8
[02:59] <malv> how do I fix this?
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: ^;)
[02:59] <kvantti> navarone i'm just a hardware freak ;)
[02:59] <Ep|phany> is it in synaptic?
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: really?
[02:59] <nickrud> dabaR, I was reading your aptitude tutorial :)
[02:59] <trygve> xorg question for you all:  if I'm getting very thin white lines very briefly appearing on the left border of the screen and at least the right (possibly also left) border of windows, especially when moving the mouse around, should I be troubleshooting the mouse itself, the video driver, or something else entirely?
[02:59] <Ep|phany> nevermind
[02:59] <HrdwrBoB> trygve: video driver
[02:59] <varsendagger> anyone use afterstep 2.x?
[02:59] <jnymo> I just did an /exec -o echo hi .. and it worked
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: youres is right, anyhow...
[03:00] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, anyone here do any database modelling?  Im looking for a suitable linux tool that will let me visually design/map/create a database...
[03:00] <niggpie> Does anyone here use GmailFS?
[03:00] <paxmaster> is there a way to encrypt files in a command line
[03:00] <AndreLtR> how can iinstall it with windows without destroying the xp data please?
[03:00] <nickrud> dabaR, you were busy, I just did a quick backstop for you, hope you didn't mind
[03:00] <ivan> hi, i have just upgraded to breezy and now i cant login to gnome
[03:00] <ubuntu> so i just add what names i want
[03:00] <dabaR> nickrud: remember that choosing of default java program?
[03:00] <trygve> oh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process
[03:00] <dabaR> How it is run...
[03:00] <Ep|phany> okay i can adjust the volume threw the icon now but its still showing it as having an X
[03:00] <ubuntu> is this the default ubuntu server?
[03:00] <nickrud> update-alternatives ?
[03:00] <kvantti> so, does someone run a dvb-t card in ubuntu?
[03:00] <nickrud> update-alternatives --config java, you mean?
[03:01] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: but it all started when I did an autoupdate and bash wanted to update.. after the update it told me that it wanted to make a new bashrc.. and i was like "hell naw" cause of all the work I put into making it work with java and whatnot.. well, then stuff stopped working
[03:01] <dabaR> yes. steven_ try that what nickrud said above.
[03:01] <dabaR> paxmaster: search the wiki about gpg, maybe there...
[03:01] <Ep|phany> i ran gst-register-0.8 but i still cant adjust the volume
[03:01] <jnymo> my paths still worked.. while working /from/ bash.. but the desktop was not accessing bash's paths right
[03:01] <dabaR> AndreLtR: install ubuntu is it?
[03:01] <Ep|phany> is there anyway i can restore defaults?
[03:01] <AndreLtR> quit
[03:02] <Alinux> dabaR, I'm in aptitude, how can I search a package to have detiled output?
[03:02] <dabaR> ivan: why cant you?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, bash should not move from /bin ?
[03:02] <ivan> i can't type my username in gdm :'(
[03:02] <Alinux> and ho can I rip in mp3 format with sound-juicer?
[03:02] <Knowerrors> Does anyone know of a Breezy Extras CD, with all the multimedia plugins, codecs, fonts etc that Easy Ubuntu and Automatix download?  I need one to give to a dialup modem user for ubuntu
[03:02] <dabaR> Alinux: I dont use it in teh graphical mode, try the ? key as someone suggested, it has its manual built in.
[03:03] <trygve> okay, so I should have clarified, *how* should I go about troubleshooting my video problem, then?  any pointers on getting started?
[03:03] <Alinux> I have only wav ogg and flac formats
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, use of automatix is not encouraged
[03:03] <nickrud> Ep|phany, I'd suggest using the preferences of the volume control to try controlling a different mixer slider.
[03:03] <dabaR> Alinux: mp3 is a non-free format, and more lossy than the free ogg format. try that one, it is good.
[03:03] <mweichert> how can I implement user profiles on linux, like done in windows?
[03:03] <Ep|phany> nickrud i did that it doesnt work though
[03:03] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: it didn't move, and desktop apps were reaching bash.. but it's like they could execute commands that bash depended on the path for..
[03:03] <theCore> paxmaster: first you need to have gpg key, then you can encrypt your file with 'gpg --encrypt FILE'
[03:03] <Alinux> dabaR, I know, but I have mp3 player ...not ogg :(
[03:03] <dabaR> ivan: can you type any user name?
[03:03] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: s/could/couldn't
[03:03] <Alinux> I know that ogg is better.
[03:03] <fulld> what's file sharing client that works out of the box with ubuntu and is not amule (assuming the user has already set up mp3 support)
[03:03] <ivan> dabaR: nothing, just spaces and >>>
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, forget desktop apps ... try them in commandline and see what error you get
[03:04] <nickrud> Ep|phany, try running alsa-mixer and see if you can control the volume there
[03:04] <navarone> Knowerrors> I think you can burn the cached packages to a cd and give to your friend if that would be easier...<?>
[03:04] <dabaR> Knowerrors: just download the packages, and burn as data CD, and give him.
[03:04] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: from the commandline, everything works fine
[03:04] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: yeah, I heard that before, that was just an example, I just need a cd with some of those packages to get the ubuntu system for them complete
[03:04] <steven_> wow that worked.  i don't know how you guys figure this stuff out... i have been racking my brain for a few hours
[03:04] <dabaR> trygve: what is the video problem?
[03:04] <trygve> because those little white lines when moving the mouse, I can live with.  but the brief spaz-fest that sometimes happens when I go to move the mouse is intolerable
[03:04] <Ep|phany> nickrud how do i run alsa-mixer
[03:04] <dabaR> steven_: we come here often, and see the issue over and over.
[03:04] <WebLOCH> Ep|phany, from the console type alsa-mixer
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, then right click on the apps ... check their command see they are same as what you typed on the command line
[03:04] <steven_> lol
[03:04] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: wow.. theres a lot of traffic in here
[03:04] <nickrud> Ep|phany, type alsamixer in a terminal
[03:04] <trygve> dabaR:  "oh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process"
[03:04] <navarone> epiphany> go to terminal and type alsamixer
[03:04] <Knowerrors> navarone: Im on dialup modem too
[03:05] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: k.. will do.. thanks
[03:05] <dabaR> mweichert: what is a user profile in windows?
[03:05] <navarone> Knowerrors> ouch...I feel for you...was on 56k for four years
[03:05] <Travisty> what is the recomendation on converting aac (m4p) to mp3?
[03:05] <Knowerrors> dabaR: I can go to a university lab and download burn a cd iso there, but not packages, because univeristy runs windows
[03:05] <varsendagger> anyone able to record audio with rosegarden?
[03:05] <trygve> ubuntu detected and set it up as a ProSavage video controller, which is certainly possible, I'm not sure.  it's integrated on the motherboard
[03:05] <neoplasticity> is there a way to pick which packages?
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, download the packages ... burn as data
[03:06] <neoplasticity> are installed?
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: sorry, I used the wrong term. I'm looking for a GPO equivalent
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, synaptic
[03:06] <aspro> Travisty: AFAIK jHymn cant get rid of the drm from itunes 6 downloaded tunes
[03:06] <dabaR> trygve: this happens often?
[03:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ha! stinking modules not loading take that! now the midi works!
[03:06] <trygve> very
[03:06] <neoplasticity> i mean on first install?
[03:06] <dabaR> mweichert: what is gpo?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, synaptic
[03:06] <Ep|phany> nickrud if i adjust master volume it works
[03:06] <neoplasticity> because i dont have the hard drive space
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: Group Policy Object
[03:06] <WebLOCH> Anyone know of any decent database modelling tools ?
[03:06] <trygve> I'd say at least once every 5min of normal usage
[03:06] <Ep|phany> so is there like a plugin i deleted or something?
[03:06] <neoplasticity> i dont have access to synaptic until the install is done
[03:06] <jnymo> dabaR: its the home folder that is created in c:/documents and settings/
[03:06] <neoplasticity> and the install fails
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: I want users only to be able to perform specific tasks
[03:07] <neoplasticity> because i dont have the disk space
[03:07] <neoplasticity> see the conundrum?
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, oh you mean pre install ... eh ah ... you need no more than 5 gig
[03:07] <nickrud> Ep|phany, I'm not sure :) I can usually get my sound to work, but I don't always understand what I've done.
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i have 1.6 gigs
[03:07] <trygve> but it's only when first moving the mouse from rest, if I keep it moving, even slightly, there's no problem, but if I'm typing and then reach over to take the mouse, it might spaz out, click a few things unintentionally, change window focus, create new folders on the desktop, etc
[03:07] <trygve> all sorts of annoying stuff
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i dont want gnome
[03:07] <neoplasticity> or gimp
[03:07] <neoplasticity> or open office
[03:07] <dabaR> mweichert: system>admin>users and groups.
[03:07] <kvantti> mweichert you can define user rights in the system/administration/users and groups tool rights section
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, server install then
[03:07] <dabaR> WebLOCH: for ERDs?
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i just need xfce and firefox
[03:07] <nickrud> neoplasticity, then when you install, select the server install
[03:08] <WebLOCH> dabaR, yeah that would do for now
[03:08] <WebLOCH> dabaR, been searching the repos but not finding much, just db libs lol
[03:08] <dabaR> Knowerrors: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <neoplasticity> does server install give x windows?
[03:08] <bimberi> neoplasticity: no
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, nope btw xfce is not in the install cd i think
[03:08] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: his computer is 466mhz 256mb ram, plus hes used to windows, should I go with Kubuntu, Ubuntu, or Xubunut?
[03:08] <dabaR> neoplasticity: server install.
[03:08] <jnymo> anyone got that qemu accelerator installed on ubuntu?
[03:09] <mweichert> kvantti: I noticed that... but I'm looking for more control. I want users to only have the ability to run 5 particular applications
[03:09] <dabaR> WebLOCH: dia.
[03:09] <nickrud> neoplasticity, no, you would do apt-get install x-window-system-core to get basic X functionality.
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, whats the difference ? ubuntu will do :P you can change to anyother later
[03:09] <nickrud> and apt-get install twm :)
[03:09] <WebLOCH> dabaR, ty shall try it out
[03:09] <trygve> so, any suggestsion dabaR, or others?
[03:09] <trygve> or am I on my own here =)
[03:10] <anton_> Hiya peoples
[03:10] <trygve> evenin' anton
[03:10] <anton_> Is there a way I can have Breezy output my sound in mono rather than stereo?
[03:10] <dabaR> trygve: never heard before.
[03:10] <WebLOCH> dabaR, lol this is nice, but i was hoping for something to do backlground work for me
[03:10] <HedgeMage> Alinux: what player?
[03:10] <trygve> well thanks anyway, dabaR
[03:11] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what is bg work?
[03:11] <Alinux> mp3 player
[03:11] <HedgeMage> Alinux: never mind, I wasn't scrolling, didn't realize how old that convo was...
[03:11] <dabaR> WebLOCH: dia is very good, just get a hang of it.
[03:11] <Alinux> magnex :)
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, i just wanted something with dialogs where i add fields then drag lines etc lol
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, rather than s omething where i do all the data model logic myself
[03:11] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I haven't heard of that one... was just curious because many do handle ogg now
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, no doubt, it looks pretty handy actually, i wont be removing it
[03:11] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I would like rip mp3 format from sound-juicer :)
[03:12] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I know :(
[03:12] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I'm not familiar with sound juicer... I have used grip, though, which handles both mp3 and ogg
[03:12] <anton_> You see, my problem is that I only own one speaker, and mp3s that use multiple channels don't sound right...
[03:12] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I know goobox too.. more intuitive then grip
[03:13] <nickrud> Alinux, the manual for sound-juicer has instructions for setting up mp3 ripping at the end of the preferences section.
[03:13] <Alinux> grip is powerfull but not simple.
[03:13] <Alinux> nickrud, ah...just a moment
[03:13] <mweichert> want I want to be able to do I think, is add multiple groups to a file or directory
[03:13] <mweichert> and then set the permissions for each group
[03:14] <dhonn> help my Applications menu doesnt work
[03:14] <dhonn> places and systems work though
[03:14] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I find grip amazingly simple, but I'm used to doing it in CLI ;)
[03:14] <_jason> dhonn, have you restarted X?
[03:15] <dhonn> yeah
[03:15] <dhonn> it hasnt worked in days
[03:15] <_jason> dhonn, does ALT+F1 do anything?
[03:15] <dhonn> i click it it shows really fast
[03:15] <dabaR> dhonn: what is doesnt work mean?
[03:15] <dhonn> then it disappears
[03:15] <dabaR> ok
[03:15] <anton_> the best menus are Places and System anyways ;)
[03:15] <os2mac> with reference to the ubuntu live CD is there a list of boot options somewhere?/
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, wooow :)
[03:16] <dabaR> dhonn: have you tried adding a new custom menu bar, by right clicking the panel>add to panel?
[03:16] <Alinux> I did... simple very very simple :)
[03:16] <nickrud> Alinux, ;)
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, thank you ubu-bro :)
[03:16] <dhonn> yeah
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, finally GREATE!
[03:17] <reter> should i switch to breezy?
[03:17] <os2mac> anyone?
[03:17] <dabaR> reter: thats not a great question.
[03:17] <dhonn> i added a menu bar and a main menu
[03:17] <reter> hi dabar
[03:17] <mweichert> aha, linux ACLs!
[03:17] <dhonn> they both dont work
[03:17] <dhonn> just Places and System work
[03:17] <dabaR> os2mac: most likely on the cd, cause, that is what boots the options...
[03:17] <reter> dabar, i have hoary right now and i just wonder if breezy would be lighter on my computer since my laptop is a bit old
[03:18] <os2mac> looked... there are no text files to speak of...
[03:18] <dabaR> reter: likely not. try a different window manager, ubotu will tell you some tips in pm.
[03:18] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: "... use of automatix is not encouraged" Why is that?
[03:18] <os2mac> I would have expected something like knoppix....
[03:18] <anton_> breezy certainly SOUNDS lighter than hoary...
[03:18] <reter> dabar, what good is breezy?
[03:19] <infamus> is there a way to have higher resolutions than 1024X768?
[03:19] <nickrud> os2mac, f2 - f10(?) at initial startup of the install has the options available, so the text is there somewhere
[03:19] <bimberi> os2mac: Press F1 at the boot prompt
[03:19] <dabaR> reter: another non-answerable question.
[03:19] <reter> ok
[03:19] <f3ar> varsendagger, you there?
[03:19] <reter> thanks for the help then
[03:19] <dabaR> ubotu: tell infamus about fixres
[03:19] <dabaR> sure
[03:20] <varsendagger> f3ar, yeah
[03:20] <varsendagger> what up?
[03:20] <os2mac> I am on an installed kubuntu system... I am doing research for another friend.... who want's to use the live CD first... I don't have his computer...and don't want to reboot mine....
[03:20] <os2mac> does anyone know where I can find them online?
[03:20] <mweichert> how do I get ACLs in ubuntu?
[03:20] <_jason> os2mac, find what?
[03:21] <f3ar> varsendagger, i reinstall ubuntu 5.10 breezy...and i'm trying to install mplayer...
[03:21] <f3ar> im in synaptic right now
[03:21] <f3ar> varsendagger, however there is no mplayer package to be found
[03:21] <bina> Maybe you are missing some mirror
[03:21] <anton_> okay, last time - does anyone know how I can get mono sound output in ubuntu?
[03:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell f3ar about mplayer
[03:21] <dabaR> f3ar: ad multiverse: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[03:21] <bina> on the /etc/apt/source file
[03:22] <Trashcan> wheres that crazy bob guy
[03:22] <varsendagger> f3ar, send me your /etc/sources.list
[03:22] <dabaR> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <os2mac> a list of the boot options available....
[03:22] <dabaR> mweichert: what is acl?
[03:23] <mweichert> access control lists
[03:24] <os2mac> eww... acl's
[03:24] <duke3z> hi-- i've destroied my repository sources.list.  ooohhh noooo
[03:24] <f3ar> varsendagger, i think i got it..
[03:24] <dabaR> is it a linux thing?
[03:24] <dabaR> !easysource
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:24] <duke3z> thank you ubotu
[03:24] <os2mac> !live CD boot options
[03:24] <ubotu> os2mac: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:24] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: "...use of automatix is not encouraged" why is that?
[03:24] <MrPockets> if i have a USB flash drive, but i unmounted it
[03:24] <MrPockets> how to i remount it?
[03:24] <varsendagger> f3ar, you got it?
[03:25] <os2mac> !live CD
[03:25] <ubotu> os2mac: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:25] <bimberi> os2mac: have a look in the isolinux directory on the LiveCD, particularly f5 to f7.txt
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, cause it installs things without asking for user first ... thats what its supposed to do btw
[03:25] <Ep|phany> is there a way to reinstall audio drivers?
[03:25] <dabaR>  f3ar out of curiosity, what instructions page did you use?
[03:25] <mweichert> os2mac: can you help me get acls on ubuntu?
[03:26] <dabaR> MrPockets: put it in again.
[03:26] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: thx
[03:26] <Knowerrors> Anyone know a good cheap place to get PC100 SDRAM?
[03:26] <lexhider> should installing ubuntu-calendar give me new entries in the "change desktop background" dialog?
[03:26] <dabaR> Knowerrors: google does.
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> meheren, acl is no more than rwxrwxrwx ?
[03:26] <os2mac> mweichert... I don't know enough about acl's on linux to help you
[03:27] <meheren> ?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-7/node27.html
[03:27] <mweichert> os2mac: thanks anyhow
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> oh
[03:27] <f3ar> varsendagger, not yet
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> wrong name ... lol
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> hi
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> how do i figure out what my root password is?
[03:27] <f3ar> dabaR, i'm using yours
[03:27] <varsendagger> f3 what is up?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, you mean rwx rwx rwx right ?
[03:27] <meheren> any1 no how to add a cursor theme under breezy?
[03:27] <varsendagger> f3ar,
[03:27] <Ep|phany> anyone know if its possible to reinstall the audio drivers/
[03:27] <Ep|phany> ?
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> is it the same as my account password?
[03:28] <dabaR> f3ar: and you got fixed with that? that was for my assignment in technical writing in school...:)
[03:28] <misfit_toy> meheren, art.gnome.org
[03:28] <duke3z> UBOTU you rule dude,  thanks on the sources list thingy
[03:28] <ubotu> :)
[03:28] <Knowerrors> dabaR: yeah, tried google, just tryin to narrow it down by word of mouth for good reputable ram dealers
[03:28] <meheren> ok
[03:28] <lexhider> .
[03:28] <misfit_toy> meheren, then click FAQ
[03:28] <steven_> okay guys i have another java related question....  i am using the Eclipse IDE, but I want to just compile (javac) from the bash screen.  However, I get javac: command not found; when I try to compile my java file....  Does anyone know how i go about I guess create some sort of symbolic link so i can use javac from any place in the filesystem???
[03:28] <meheren> ok
[03:28] <SCMark> how do I increase the subtitle size in totem
[03:28] <meheren> thx
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> Ven0mSevenX, use sudo
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> oh yeah
[03:28] <f3ar> dabaR, nice...yeah its working....although is mplayer universer or multiverse (non-free)
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> that's right
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> thanks wicked
[03:28] <pingswept> Ven0mSevenX: same as your account password
[03:28] <dabaR> f3ar: the latter.
[03:29] <dabaR> f3ar: also visit the page ubotu told you about in pm.
[03:29] <Ep|phany> anyone know why i cant control the pc speaker volume? i used to beable to but i installed this gstream mad and i cant anymore
[03:29] <mweichert> wickedpuppy: I mean, I want the ability to give group 'a': rwx,  group 'b': rw, group 'c': rx
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, no idea about that one
[03:29] <n0dl> does anyone know how to view the time in cli?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> steven_, you got no javac ?
[03:30] <bimberi> n0dl: date
[03:30] <f3ar> dabaR, awesome thanks alot...its working...that page is very easy to understand
[03:30] <dabaR> steven_: you installed a jre, or a jdk?
[03:30] <pingswept> mweichert: what are you trying to do?
[03:30] <f3ar> varsendagger, thanks for the help as well, this is a great community
[03:30] <steven_> well, i am able to compile in Eclipse, so i have to have the java compiler, right?
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> n0dl, guess ? if i were you i type date or time ... obvious choices
[03:30] <pingswept> n0dl: date
[03:30] <dabaR> f3ar: it is a product of 3 months of listening to tech writing class, and some feedback from the prof.
[03:30] <dabaR> f3ar: thanks for the compliment.
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> steven_, yes you got j2sdk1.5 i remember ... steven_ chek ya /etc/alternatives/javac
[03:31] <steven_> ok
[03:31] <dabaR> Ep|phany: how is it that you can not? did you ask in #kubuntu about amarok?
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> steven_, probably a link problem
[03:31] <ISOcrates> can someone help me get my wireless card working with my airport express (which is using 128-bit WEP encryption)?
[03:31] <meheren> art.gnome.org doesn't say how does any1 no how to get my already installed cursors working?
[03:31] <mweichert> pingswept: I have several groups of users... the developer group can launch administrative programs, however, the payroll group can only launch evolution, firefox, and openoffice.
[03:31] <meheren> i downloaded cursors how do i use them?
[03:32] <dabaR> ISOcrates: airport express the router from apple?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> dabar i can adjust the master volume but i cant adjust the pc speaker volume
[03:32] <misfit_toy> meheren, click on the FAQ on the right side of the art.gnome.org, it tells you how to do everything
[03:32] <dabaR> Ep|phany: in amarok?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> everywhere
[03:32] <ISOcrates> dabaR: yeah, that's the one
[03:32] <Ep|phany> even in volume control
[03:32] <pingswept> mweichert: I see. Can't be done with normal unix permissions, I don't think, which is probably why you were asking about acls.
[03:32] <dabaR> ISOcrates: and...your wireless works on other routers?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> no matter how hi or low i put the volume for pc speaker it doesnt change
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, http://acl.bestbits.at/ <-- check out this page
[03:33] <meheren> no not how to do cursors
[03:33] <dabaR> Ep|phany: what is pc speaker volume, is that the beeps?
[03:33] <ISOcrates> dabaR: i can get it to work with no encryption but i can't get it to work with WEP
[03:33] <Ep|phany> no
[03:33] <meheren> misfit_toy it tells everything but cursors
[03:33] <kvantti> USIcrates check out your router setup, and confirm that uPNP is active
[03:33] <SCMark> anyone know how to incease subtitle font sizes in totem?
[03:33] <dabaR> Ep|phany: yes.
[03:33] <Ep|phany> i have a notebook so its the speakers built into it
[03:33] <dabaR> :)
[03:33] <misfit_toy> meheren, try http://gnome-look.org
[03:33] <kvantti> SC ar
[03:33] <meheren> ok
[03:33] <steven_> okay, i guess i have a problem here.  I don't have javac in the /etc/alternatives directory.
[03:33] <dabaR> ISOcrates: did you read the wireless wiki page? ubotu will tell you the URL in pm.
[03:33] <Ep|phany> does anyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers?
[03:34] <mweichert> pingswept: yeah... I've heard that there ACLs can be implemented though
[03:34] <ISOcrates> dabaR: cool, how did you active that?
[03:34] <varsendagger> f3ar, you bet
[03:34] <dabaR> Ep|phany: as far as I know(afaik) the pc speaker means the beeps, not the speakers built  into the computer;
[03:34] <dabaR> ISOcrates: he will tell you that as well.
[03:35] <kvantti> http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=10601                   this is THE 5.1 system. and on christmas eve, it is all mine :)
[03:35] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:35] <mweichert> wickedpuppy: yeah, looked there... I guess all I probably need is coreutils, as kernel-2.6 seems to support ACLs by default. I
[03:35] <pingswept> mweichert: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/171
[03:35] <varsendagger> --i am in the process right now to get internet tv working from winamp
[03:35] <ISOcrates> dabaR: thanks, i'll check that page out.  hopefully it will help
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, thats my thought too ... 2.6 is supported
[03:35] <dabaR> ISOcrates: its a clue...:)
[03:36] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:36] <f3ar> varsendagger or dabaR, i just installed mplayer-586 i'm running a p4...synaptic installed everything...no in order to run it i would have to 'Add Applications' first, correct?
[03:36] <SCMark> anyone?  bigger subtitle font sizes?  anyone?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> f3ar, no ... synaptic will download + install mplayer
[03:36] <varsendagger> f3 i would install gmplayer if i wer you
[03:36] <mweichert> okay, next question :) how do I patch a deb file? :D
[03:36] <varsendagger> f3ar,  i would install gmplayer if i wer you
[03:37] <dabaR> f3ar: Apps>Sound & Video>Mplayer maybe.
[03:37] <kvantti> f3ar in order to mplayer run even if it is installed from synaptic, you need to copy a ttf font from any standard truetype as subfont.ttf in your mplayer home dir. also, it is very useful to install a "all" codec pack from the mplayer home site..
[03:37] <steven_> i get the following when i do a locate on the javac:  steven@jupiter:~/workspace/Test$ locate javac
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/doc/ant/manual/OptionalTasks/javacc.html
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/doc/ant/manual/CoreTasks/javac.html
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/javacc.vim
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/vim/vim63/compiler/javac.vim
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> steven_, pls don't paste here pls ....
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:37] <steven_> oops
[03:38] <dabaR> ya, use that page.
[03:38] <steven_> sorry
[03:38] <kvantti> f3ar i still have problems with some formats, but the startup problems are gone for me with that kind of installation
[03:38] <Trashcan> anyone know what might cause an ubuntu server install to sit at 6% for 2 hours while it 'retrieves' tons of packages (slowly)?
[03:38] <dabaR> steven_: do you have the .bin file on your comp still?
[03:38] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:38] <Ep|phany> anyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers from ubuntu?
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> steven_, btw ... your problem is bash is not finding javac ... you can just add the path to j2sdk1.5 bin in bash ... or fix the /etc/alternatives/javac path
[03:38] <f3ar> dabaR, okay i just didnt see in apps>sound/video
[03:38] <dabaR> misfit_toy: I hope you know you posted that 3 times already:)
[03:38] <f3ar> now i'm going to install the mozilla plugin
[03:39] <meheren> sry
[03:39] <meheren> i was getting the dog
[03:39] <misfit_toy> dabaR, yes, trying to help *someone else*
[03:39] <misfit_toy> dabaR, don't get me started
[03:39] <dabaR> f3ar: try mplayer in a terminal, and, usually, you want to go with opening files in mplayer, not opening mplayer itself.
[03:39] <dabaR> no, eh?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> don't version the channel sophie_
[03:40] <f3ar> dabaR, gotcha, its working/installed...just need the plugin to work
[03:40] <ajmitch_> sophie_: please, don't do that
[03:40] <dabaR> f3ar: the plugin is called usually w32codecs, and you can get it probably where ubotu tells you in pm.
[03:40] <Ep|phany> is there anyway i can return my sound drivers to defualt?
[03:40] <sophie_> ajmitch_: do what sorry im trying a script called verstats
[03:41] <dabaR> f3ar: oh, oh, no, that is not that plugin.
[03:41] <ajmitch_> sophie_: I suggest you don't then :)
[03:41] <defendguin> si there anyone here who like the brown ubuntu theme?
[03:41] <Trashcan> lol
[03:41] <defendguin> s/si/is
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> sophie_, don't try any scripts here ... try it in empty channel ?
[03:41] <Nikyo><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:41] <mjr> 33
[03:41] <jsauer> great program called automatix (google for it) can install various codecs for you automatically, and also install a lot of other useful apps...
[03:41] <defendguin> so one out of 200 in the channel
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, pls don't recommend automatix
[03:42] <synackuator> zenrox: ok how do I use this tcl plugin now?
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, automatix should not be used; it breaks systems
[03:42] <jsauer> i've had good results... is there something bad with it?
[03:42] <dabaR> f3ar: that one is called mozilla-mplayer, or so.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> defendguin,  most of us dont worry about themes.
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, it enables root, which breaks the GUI config tools. And some other bad things
[03:42] <jsauer> ah
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, our own robotgeek is fixing it up
[03:42] <dabaR> defendguin: and most ignore polls.
[03:43] <sophie_> Sorry all for the query script
[03:43] <bbrown> ls
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> and he is going to release a fork, called "EazyBreezy", jsauer
[03:43] <bbrown> ls
[03:43] <bbrown> pwd
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> which will be safe to use
[03:43] <sethk> wickedpuppy, why?  I don't use it, I'm just curious about your comment
[03:43] <defendguin> heh
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> sethk, see my comments
[03:43] <jsauer> cool... thanks.
[03:43] <sethk> seth_k|lappy, hey, not only are you uing my first name, you've got my initial also.  :)
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> jsauer,  theres some.... interesting discussion of it in the forums. :P be sure to put on your fireproof undies befor reading them :P
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> i am confused
[03:43] <dabaR> bbrown: try the terminal instead of irc.
[03:43] <bbrown> q
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> two sethk ...
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> sethk, tch, I stole<EMAIL_ADDRESS>first; I win :)
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, /me = Seth Kinast
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> him != Seth Kinast :P
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> anyway sethk read seth_k|lappy's explaination on automatix above ... it break things
[03:44] <bbrown> dabaR: yea, I am doing IRC by proxy
[03:44] <sethk> seth_k|lappy, yes, I scrolled up and saw it.
[03:44] <bbrown> quit
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, the forums are so corrupt :P censorship is the norm. You won't find any of that discussion left
[03:44] <bbrown> quit
[03:44] <bbrown> dope
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  heh - how sad.
[03:45] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, we're going to bring it up at CC, so maybe something will be done :)
[03:45] <jsauer> FYI... I've been a Fedora user for years and have switched over to breezy... it's been great. very good notebook support...
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, i was fedora users for years too ... and it does support notebook well ...
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> my notebook in any case
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  i even read through the script - i could just about write what it does.  But then again I had all the things it did.. allready done.  :P
[03:46] <sethk> wickedpuppy, recently I've loaded two laptops that worked out of the box with ubuntu and failed with fedora
[03:46] <f3ar> dabaR, im having some trouble installing the codecs
[03:46] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me out?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Ive had VERY good luck with Ubuntu 5.10 and my TUrion based Laptop.
[03:46] <f3ar> dabaR, can i pm you
[03:46] <dabaR> f3ar: specify them.
[03:46] <beekay> i am having a problem manually upgrading hoary
[03:46] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, exactly... those who know how to fix the things that break by enabling root, won't use Automatix... it's the new users that use it, and then their system gets hosed
[03:46] <dabaR> f3ar: more people more knowledge...
[03:46] <sethk> AbdulSpiegel, well, unless we are psychic, we don't know until you tell us what you need
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> lol
[03:47] <ISOcrates> does anyone know what file has the info that tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?
[03:47] <jsauer> i have breezy on a thinkpad r40 and suspend to ram works fine... still trying to get it to work on a compaq x1000 however... upon resuming, the mouse is all random and messed up
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> true
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> okay
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> sethk, something like that can happen to any distro ... go #fedora and they can tell you about how ubuntu break their laptops :P
[03:47] <beekay> when i do sudo apt-get upgrade, it gets to the end and says that there is a GPG error and that there were invalid signatures
[03:47] <beekay> does anyone know how i can fix that
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> !gpgerror
[03:47] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  i can honestly say ive done about everything I can think of to break ubuntu and havent done it yet. :P
[03:47] <beekay> thanks
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> !gpg error
[03:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, wickedpuppy
[03:47] <sethk> wickedpuppy, sure, but I'm just saying that my recent experience favors ubuntu over fedora
[03:47] <beekay> !gpgerror
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> ah heck
[03:47] <f3ar> dabaR, i think its working...let me figure it out...just a sec
[03:47] <dabaR> !gpgerr
[03:47] <ubotu> methinks gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[03:47] <synackuator> can anyone tell me how to use my TCL system info script?
[03:47] <navarone> lol
[03:48] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[03:48] <jsauer> is there an easy way to "undo" what automatix has done? without doing a reinstall?
[03:48] <beekay> !gpgerro
[03:48] <ubotu> beekay: I give up, what is it?
[03:48] <beekay> blah
[03:48] <beekay> !gpgerr
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, unautomatix ? :P ... no such thing
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> jsauer,  apt-get remove the stuff it installed for 90% of it.
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> beekay, i think its enough ?
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, yeah... I forget what robotgeek found out
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> but basically sudo passwd -l root
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> and restoring /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <WebLOCH> dabaR, Any other DB Modelling suggestions?
[03:49] <seth_k|lappy> and removing the stuff it installed by hand, since it doesn't install things properly in some cases
[03:49] <beekay> !gpgerror
[03:49] <ubotu> Wish i knew, beekay
[03:49] <dabaR> WebLOCH: that one is fine.
[03:49] <beekay> !gpg error
[03:49] <ubotu> beekay: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:49] <dabaR> beekay: please stop, he said it above.
[03:49] <f3ar> dabaR, i did 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer' however totem is still trying to play the .mov's on http://www.apple.com/trailers/
[03:49] <jsauer> dang... the only reason I went with it was for the latest openoffice... guess I can go through the script and undo it step by step... might be quicker to just do a reinstall...
[03:49] <WebLOCH> dabaR, its not a db modeller, its a diagram editor, missing out the modelling part which I was rather keen on
[03:49] <f3ar> i should reboot? or is there a quicker way
[03:49] <beekay> oh im an idiot
[03:50] <dabaR> f3ar: thats cause it is the default plugin... no reboots except for kernel changes in GNU/Linux.
[03:50] <xulin> nanuit
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, graphics apps are rare on linux ... i been bitching for dreamweaver clone and visio clone
[03:50] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what is a modelet, a case tool?
[03:50] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, inkscape is working on becoming more like visio... their new version has connectors
[03:50] <navarone> wickedpuppy...how about nvu...I think that's the name of it
[03:50] <dabaR> WebLOCH: ILl model your database, Im reading that stuff now...:)
[03:51] <seth_k|lappy> ick navarone, nvu != dreamweaver or even close ;)
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> seth_k|lappy, inkscape yah ... i been trying it out :P
[03:51] <beekay> hmm is there any reason i cant install the packages: linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[03:51] <WebLOCH> dabaR,  cool if you want to
[03:51] <sethk> there's kivio, although it is underwhelming
[03:51] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I wouldnt want a dreamweaver clone or a visio clone, but a simple db modeller would b e nice... have you tried NVU ?
[03:51] <deadcat> can ubuntu ppc live cd bootup on oldworld mac?
[03:51] <dabaR> WebLOCH: write out the specs, and send me the pastebin with it...
[03:51] <f3ar> dabaR, how can i set mplayer to default instead of totem
[03:51] <kvantti> can someone give the address for the nickserv faq site
[03:52] <navarone> seth> I wouldn't know a wysiwyg from a hole in the wall...<s>
[03:52] <f3ar> dabaR, is the in firefox or something else
[03:52] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[03:52] <WebLOCH> dabaR, i couldnt do that buddy, i might aswell do it myself in that instance
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, /msg nickserv help
[03:52] <dabaR> f3ar: I am not 100% sure. try starting with about:config in the address bar.
[03:52] <bimberi> WebLOCH: DBDesigner4 might be worth a look - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
[03:52] <WebLOCH> dabaR, just wanted pretty pre-rendered stuff done for me for documentation and some sql generated scripts
[03:52] <WebLOCH> bimberi, thanks
[03:52] <seth_k|lappy> does Umbrello do DB mockups? Or just code schema
[03:52] <jsauer> wickedpuppy, have you tried dia ... not that polished yet, but similar to visio
[03:52] <bimberi> WebLOCH: np :)
[03:52] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[03:52] <dabaR> kvantti: /msg nickserv help. have you tried that?
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[03:53] <infamus> whenever i try to change directories to one of my mounted NTFS hard drives, linux doesnt want to recognize the space in "program files"
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, dia is not visio ... its general drawing stuff .. yes i tried it ... too ashamed to show it to my friends who use visio
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> infamus, use \
[03:53] <odie5533> How secure are the packages in the universe and multiverse?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, i am using them
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> cd 'Program Files'
[03:54] <itsonlyme> hi
[03:54] <dabaR> wickedpuppy: welll, I never used visio, and for a modelling tool(drawing models) dia is great, I find.
[03:54] <f3ar> Does anyone know how to change Mplayer to the default player for Firefox, as opposed to Totem?
[03:54] <dabaR> odie5533: quite secure, but, not as the ones in main.
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> dabaR, i don't use visio to model ... i need to draw uml diagrams and use cases ... you know those project management stuff
[03:54] <dabaR> pah...
[03:55] <dabaR> thats analysis.
[03:55] <dabaR> and design.
[03:55] <dabaR> gantt and pert are pm.
[03:55] <dabaR> anyhow...
[03:55] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy,  you need to check out Poseidon then
[03:55] <jsauer> would be nice to export objects out of visio as svg's, then use something like inkscape
[03:55] <infamus> wickedpuppy: for the entire path? because the directory im trying to get to is /media/hda1/Program Files/Gravity/RO
[03:55] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, Umbrello is great at UML
[03:55] <dabaR> other ones too. But, there are UML diagrams in dia, and I find they work fine. For _drawing_ diagrams.
[03:56] <dabaR> use  /media/hda1/Program\ Files/Gravity/RO
[03:56] <infamus> dabaR: ah, thanks
[03:56] <ISOcrates> does anyone know what file tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?
[03:56] <itsonlyme> I am trying to install the ivtv module as per the mythtv wiki guide.  I ran into a problem when I modprobed the new module "FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ivtv/ivtv.ko): Invalid module format"   Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> thanks guys for the suggestions :P
[03:57] <dabaR> itsonlyme: type sudo uname -r in a terminal.
[03:57] <WebLOCH> ahh umbrello seems to do db erds too
[03:57] <maddash> !w32codecs
[03:57] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:57] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, check out poseidon and umbrello
[03:57] <itsonlyme> 2.6.12-10-686
[03:58] <dabaR> itsonlyme: ok, thats good, you have the right kernel it seems.
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> poseidon is pretty ex :P
[03:59] <sethk> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[04:00] <sethk> why isn't ubotu responding to that?
[04:00] <misfit_toy> sethk, valium
[04:00] <dabaR> what does he tell you?
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> the synthax
[04:00] <itsonlyme> Initially I ran make and got a gcc3.4 error not found.  A slightly more adavened linux user/friend of mine suggested creating a symlink from gcc4 to gcc3.4.  which allowed make to compile the driver.  Thats when I got the error the first time.  I apt-get'ed gcc3.4 and removed the symlink and tryed again.  Same result.  Did I screw it up entirely?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> AbdulSpiegel,  i know its covered in the ubuntu wikis :P
[04:01] <sethk> dabaR, my fault, I was looking in the wrong place.
[04:01] <misfit_toy> AbdulSpiegel, there is a whole walk thru on that at http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:01] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont got a cd tho
[04:01] <mmilo> hello
[04:01] <odie5533> As an ubuntu user, am I at risk to a rootkit?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> itsonlyme,  have ya  'apt-get install build-essentials' yet?
[04:01] <misfit_toy> AbdulSpiegel, it's done over the 'net, you don't need a cd
[04:01] <itsonlyme> yes
[04:01] <infamus> wickedpuppy: OMG ragnarok Online runs so freakin slow! i cant believe there arent good drivers for the ati radeon 7000 physical
[04:01] <mmilo> whats a rootkit?
[04:02] <dabaR> mmilo: it is something you dont want.
[04:02] <mmilo> i see
[04:02] <misfit_toy> infamus, ati is not a good linux card, they don't play well with open source, they are buttheads.
[04:02] <mmilo> well im just running the ubuntu live disk i got in the mail
[04:02] <dabaR> mmilo: google for more info. it is a hacker tool(dunno myseklf)
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, what do you mean by poseidon being ex ?
[04:02] <mmilo> havent used linux before
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, what does ex mean?
[04:02] <f3ar> yo dabaR I'm not having any luck getting this mozilla-mplayer to work...any ideas? it's installed but still won't play
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, excellent, exciting, excremential
[04:02] <f3ar> apple.com/trailers is what i'm using to test it
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> expensive
[04:03] <misfit_toy> WebLOCH, excrutiating?
[04:03] <dabaR> odie5533: as much as anyone else, isntall programs only from the official, and community supported repos.
[04:03] <mmilo> just curious are there any good open source vector apps out there?
[04:03] <mmilo> like adobe illustrator
[04:03] <vince_> first time to use linux.. what is the command to install a .sh file in terminal?
[04:03] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, theres a community licence which is free and provides all of the UML stuff you could need
[04:03] <Fushi> Do you need a compiler to install gcc?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> vince_,  what are you trying to install?
[04:03] <vegos> when i play mpg files ubuntu restarts and i have to log back in, can anyone help
[04:03] <misfit_toy> vince_,  "sh file.sh"
[04:04] <vince_> crossover office
[04:04] <vince_> yes
[04:04] <sethk> Fushi, yes
[04:04] <Mr-Falkor> there should be a program that helps people like me to get rid of the computing addiction
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  you mean X crashes and gdm restarts back up?
[04:04] <sethk> Fushi, you can cross compile one on another architecture
[04:04] <Knowerrors> Anyone know of a good drafting program for ubuntu
[04:04] <vegos> dr,  yes
[04:04] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, it's called "chicks 1.01"
[04:04] <dabaR> vince_: does that   program not come with tech support?
[04:04] <itsonlyme> I think build-essential isntalls gcc4, while make was expecting 3.4
[04:04] <Knowerrors> ?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Knowerrors,  'qcad' perhaps
[04:05] <vince_> of course, but not on sunday night
[04:05] <vegos> Dr, do you recognize this problem
[04:05] <vince_> i guess a .sh file is not a common file extension in linux
[04:05] <misfit_toy> itsonlyme, what are you installing?
[04:05] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, Im damn serious :) I've got a gf
[04:05] <Fushi> So I need a compiler to install a compiler...grr that was the whole reason I was install gcc >_>
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  X is crashing for some reason. Most likely a video-card issue.
[04:05] <misfit_toy> vince_, it's a very common thing .sh
[04:05] <Fushi> Thanks
[04:05] <itsonlyme> the ivtv drivers for mythtv
[04:06] <f3ar> dabaR, just so you know...i'm stupid i was using firefox and not mozilla hahaha
[04:06] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, what do ya need man?
[04:06] <dabaR> f3ar: nono, fx is part of mozilla.
[04:06] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, help
[04:06] <vince_> how do i install it, misfit?  thanks for your help
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> vince_,   its just a 'shell script' - installing programs with .sh or .bin files/self installing executables - is somewhat rare.
[04:06] <dabaR> vince_: it is. chmod +x file.sh && sudo ./file.sh
[04:06] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, with?
[04:06] <vegos> do you know how i can trouble shoot this problem
[04:06] <dabaR> vince_: that above is your ticket to a broken system if that is not a safe package.
[04:06] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, get rid of my computer addiction, I feel like crap without a computer
[04:07] <vince_> ty dabar
[04:07] <itsonlyme> misfit_toy: the ivtv kernel mod for mythtv  sorry for the double, hit enter too fast
[04:07] <varsendagger> f3ar, is ubuntu the first linux distro you've used
[04:07] <dabaR> vince_: take care when installing programs that way.
[04:08] <vince_> chmod, doesn't that just change the permission?
[04:08] <wethion> Is Enlightenment 16 or 17 in Ubuntu?  And where can I see a listing of all packages available in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <coz> hey guys in which file are screen savers kept?
[04:08] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, oh, seriously then? hmmm, that's becoming a common thing, if you really need help I'd call your doctor and hook up with someone to talk to IN PERSON
[04:08] <f3ar> dabaR, so you know mozilla-mplayer isn't working in firefox, however it is working in mozilla browser
[04:08] <dabaR> vegos: well, first thing to ask yourself is: what program opens when I try opening an mpg file?
[04:08] <duke3z> is it ok to send a small video error in here?
[04:08] <duke3z>   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[04:08] <duke3z>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[04:08] <duke3z>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[04:08] <dabaR> f3ar: again, that is cause fx has totem as default, and mozilla does not.
[04:08] <kevman> I'm running the Emu10k1 sound driver. Is there any way I can use it to record sound?
[04:08] <f3ar> varsendagger, yes it is...i've used knoppix before...but ubuntu is my first install and attempt
[04:09] <misfit_toy> itsonlyme, myth stuff? why don't you ask in #myth first, they are really on the ball about mythtv
[04:09] <dabaR> duke3z: sudo aptitude install binutils?
[04:09] <duke3z> where the heck do you install binutils?
[04:09] <duke3z> i'll runit
[04:09] <wethion> Is there a place I can view all packages available in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <f3ar> dabaR, yeah exactly heh, now i need to figure out how to get mplayer working in fx
[04:09] <coz> does someone know which location screensavers are kept
[04:09] <jtan325> i'm trying to run some java stuff, but I get a NoClassDefFoundError
[04:09] <itsonlyme> Thanks, I forgot they were there...  :)
[04:09] <jtan325> would this have to do with java classpath?
[04:10] <wethion> coz: did you try xscreensaver?
[04:10] <coz> no thanks
[04:10] <dabaR> jtan325: why dont you paste your java program into paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[04:10] <duke3z> dabar Thank You Sir
[04:10] <dabaR> $20
[04:11] <duke3z> right 0
[04:11] <jtan325> dabaR, i think the java program is legit
[04:11] <jtan325> it works on my school servers
[04:11] <froguz> hello everybody
[04:11] <Xenguy> wethion: run 'synaptic'  ?
[04:11] <dabaR> jtan325: I think roses are red.
[04:11] <jtan325> but now i am trying to run the program (actually, a project) on my local machine
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, is it a packaged ? then classpath would be my first guess
[04:11] <froguz> i have a very tricky question, so i hope somebody can help me
[04:12] <itsonlyme> thanks to everybody who helped!
[04:12] <jtan325> i can just do "-cp"?
[04:12] <jtan325> it is packaged
[04:12] <wethion> Xenguy: I'm not running Ubuntu, I'm thinking of trying it out on my daughter's system, but I want to be sure it has all of the packages I need before I spend the time.
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, then check ya classpath settings
[04:12] <froguz> i need to rebuild an hdlist file from a centos cd install using ubuntu
[04:12] <jtan325> what should the classpath settings be?
[04:12] <jtan325> or can i just use "-cp" and specify the folders where the project files are
[04:12] <coz> ok checked xscreensaver and that's not what i want
[04:13] <varsendagger> f3ar, i'm asking because i've used mandrake and debian 3.1 and i *struggled* to get mplayer and gdesklets and gnome-sudoku running
[04:13] <jtan325> or do i also have to specify where the JRE's are
[04:13] <wethion> coz: what are you looking for?
[04:13] <jtan325> or something...
[04:13] <Xenguy> wethion: is there anything in particular you need?
[04:13] <coz>  I want the location of the separate screen savers in ubuntu
[04:13] <dabaR> jtan325: try #java, if you wont go along with my questions, and noone else answers.
[04:13] <froguz> since ubuntu doesn't have genhdlist, is there a way to to that ?
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, it should point to the dir above the package settings ... and .
[04:13] <wethion> Xenguy: for starters, Enlightenment instead of Gnome.
[04:13] <jtan325> dabaR, i would paste it, but the program is actually a project, with dozens of files
[04:13] <jtan325> and alot of the code we didn't right
[04:13] <jtan325> write
[04:13] <Siph0n> is there ne way find can find a string in any file in a dir?
[04:13] <jtan325> it's a school project
[04:13] <coz> wethion I want to do alittle editing of a few of them and need to know where each one is located
[04:14] <wethion> Xenguy: is there a bloot I can query here?
[04:14] <varsendagger> wethion, do you use E16?
[04:14] <dabaR> jtan325: then, you need to run the file including the package, so like, java org.MainMethodClass
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: E is available in Ubu, yes
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: ubotu
[04:14] <wethion> varsendagger: Yes.
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: /msg ubotu keyword
[04:14] <ChocoPanda> helloo?
[04:14] <dabaR> wethion: bloot bot?
[04:14] <dabaR> ok, ya.
[04:14] <froguz> any who has rebuild a red hat based install cd????
[04:14] <wethion> Xenguy: Kk. thanks.
[04:14] <varsendagger> wethion, so do i, it is a bit hard to configur
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: np
[04:15] <Rex> Question: I'm having issues connecting to a windows computer over a network in Ubuntu. I think I should use Places-> Connect to server -> server type "Windows Share". Is this correct?
[04:15] <ChocoPanda> er..im new to linux...seeking some enlightment
[04:15] <f3ar> varsendagger, oh well i'm looking to get gdesklets working as well...whats gnome-sudoku?
[04:15] <dabaR> Rex: sounds right...:)
[04:15] <Xenguy> ChocoPanda: ask away
[04:15] <wethion> varsendagger: not hard at all.. but I've been dicking around with E for years now.
[04:15] <ChocoPanda> how come there is only one selection for the resolution in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:15] <froguz> ChocoPanda, are you chilean?
[04:16] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ChocoPanda about fixres
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> nope...
[04:16] <dabaR> ChocoPanda: it is related to your monitor. read the pm from ubotu.
[04:16] <Rex> dabaR: I thought so, but I'm not getting anywhere that way. I specify my windows computer's IP address, and I did enable sharing files and printers in Windows, but I'm still not sure this isn't a Windows problem.
[04:16] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: are you using a flat panel monitor?
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> oh..i missed that just now
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> nope
[04:16] <wethion> coz: if you have xscreensaver installed, or another screensaver package, the name of the screensaver can be used in a locate query.
[04:16] <froguz> ChocoPanda, your nick is a very famous icecream here
[04:16] <wethion> as in locate kumpaa
[04:17] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: what is the resolution you're seeing?
[04:17] <wethion> coz: as in 'locate kumpaa'.
[04:17] <froguz> please, i need some heeeeeeelp!!!
[04:17] <f3ar> varsendagger, what do you use for security purposes?
[04:17] <ChocoPanda> the lowest one
[04:17] <ChocoPanda> 640x480..i think
[04:17] <pingswept> Yeah, that's low.
[04:17] <wethion> froguz: that is a sure way to *not* get help.  ask your quesion, and if someone is available to assist, they will.
[04:17] <dabaR> Rex: do you know the IP addresses for both machines?
[04:17] <Rex> yes
[04:18] <dabaR> Rex: do you have a router?
[04:18] <ChocoPanda> ah.. thanks for the help guys
[04:18] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: not sure what to tell you.
[04:18] <arg|bx> hiyas
[04:18] <ChocoPanda> im gonna go read the linux for dummies book now..
[04:18] <froguz> how can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??
[04:18] <Rex> dabaR: My internet is provided by my university, so I could be connected to a router at some point. However, I know the IP of both computers and the internal and external IPs are the same.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ChocoPanda,  ewww.. get better books then that.
[04:18] <cliebow> hi: what do i need to do to get samba.schema
[04:19] <Xenguy> ChocoPanda: good place to start if you have the book
[04:19] <ChocoPanda> lol i'll try
[04:19] <sethk> ChocoPanda, usually that means that your monitor has not been identified, so it assumes you have a monitor that can do only 640
[04:19] <ChocoPanda> thanks sethk~ cya
[04:19] <benplaut> are there any cli rss readers out there that output info in a ticker form?
[04:19] <sethk> ChocoPanda, all you have to do is go into the dialog for resolution and tell it that your monitor can do, whatever it can do
[04:19] <varsendagger> gnome-suduko is a game for sudoku
[04:20] <dabaR> Rex: can you ping from one machine to the other?
[04:20] <giany911> does any 1 know how can i ...add channels ..to fav like open at startup in xchat?
[04:20] <arg|bx> i'm trying to install ubuntu, its fails when installing the kernel
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  under the server list. has autojoin section :P
[04:21] <giany911> ty
[04:21] <Rex> dabaR: Yes, both machines can ping the other
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  #ubuntu,#linux,#HotLinuxBabes
[04:21] <varsendagger> f3ar, i don't have anything other than a hardware firewall
[04:22] <dabaR|food|patie> Rex: read the pm from ubotu is best I can do.
[04:22] <sethk> varsendagger, a hardware firewall is the best thing you can have.
[04:23] <kvantti> maybe you traditional gamers might enjoy the site www.happypenguin.org                 this site really has content
[04:23] <crexor> is there an faq anywhere for using the airport card in an ibook + ubuntu live?
[04:23] <varsendagger> wethion, how do you configure the pagers and whatnot, do you configure stuff manually or do you use some kind of enlightnement configuration tool?
[04:23] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: airport extreme?
[04:23] <crexor> yea
[04:23] <kvantti> sethk yeah seth, just before i switched to ubuntu, my windowz soft firewally had reported 0 intrusion attempts through my buffalo airstation firewall. i feel extremely safe these days
[04:24] <fosorio> hi.. I just installed 5.04.. is there a way to upgrade to 5.10 without reinstalling?
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: it is impossible to use those with any GNU/Linux distro. Only apple has teh drivers, in OSX.
[04:24] <crexor> ah
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> ubotu: tell fosorio about breezy
[04:24] <varsendagger> forosio there is a wiki for upgrading isnt there>
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> fosorio: read the pm.
[04:24] <kvantti> fosorio apt-get update, atp-get distro-upgrade                    make sure to edit your installation sources from synaptic before this!
[04:24] <crexor> how about my usb wireless card
[04:24] <crexor> has prism2 chip
[04:24] <fosorio> ok.. thanks
[04:25] <kvantti> crexor that chip should be supported. i remember seeing prism support somewhere
[04:25] <dabaR|food|patie> ubotu: tell crexor about wireless
[04:25] <varsendagger> wethion, no answer?
[04:25] <crexor> oo i like it
[04:25] <crexor> thank you much.
[04:25] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: I dont know whether it will work.
[04:25] <Rex> damn
[04:25] <froguz> how can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??
[04:26] <varsendagger> seth_k|lappy, what do you use for security?
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> varsendagger, security?
[04:26] <badmacktuck> anyone in here have any idea why, when transferring files from an xp share, samba only transfers at like 300kBps
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> I don't use a virus scanner or firewall
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> varsendagger, i use a guard dog
[04:26] <kvantti> crexor use the console to cd to /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless and see if there is a prism driver there
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> no viruses for Linux that I care about, and I don't have any ports open for a firewall to protect
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> I just installed a normal install instead of expert
[04:27] <and> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148   Does this matter? lol
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> how do I get actual root access?
[04:27] <kvantti> crexor those drivers are the one your system has stored without downloading necessary
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> Chainsaw_Master, sudo -s
[04:27] <and> Chainsaw_Master:  sudo
[04:27] <varsendagger> i think linux is securtity enough
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> I want reall access, I want su -
[04:27] <kvantti> Chainsaw_Master sudo -i from console enables you to have full root access
[04:27] <seth_k|lappy> and, how can you stand to use that nick... doesn't it get annoying to be pinged every 2sec
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> thanks
[04:28] <and> seth_k|lappy:  Not really.
[04:28] <and> seth_k|lappy:  I've also been 'the' and 'it' before.
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> and, why not try help ?
[04:28] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[04:28] <and> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148     But how do I fix this?!
[04:28] <towsheba> Hell0 Channel
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> your name will be called every 20 sec
[04:29] <towsheba> Is some one willing to help me with blckbox universe?
[04:29] <stock> is there an ubuntu equivilent to gentoo's 'glsa-check' or freebsd's 'portaudit'?
[04:29] <benplaut> and why not?
[04:29] <towsheba> blackbox*
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> towsheba,  help in what way?
[04:29] <dabaR|food|patie> towsheba: did you ask the #blackbox, and what help is it?
[04:29] <and> wickedpuppy:  Because this place is helper...er..
[04:29] <towsheba> oh no sorry
[04:29] <towsheba> I have not
[04:30] <towsheba> I did not relise there was one
[04:30] <towsheba> thnk you
[04:30] <dabaR|food|patie> and: I would have definitely tell us what causes the error.
[04:30] <giany911> does any1 know a similar program to superkaramba?
[04:30] <arg|bx> ok, the installer is giving me a list of ONE kernel to install.. when i select it, it tells me linux-386 cannot be installed, and to check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log (which never seems to get created)
[04:30] <duke3z> where do i read about starting up ubuntu without Xserver?
[04:30] <and> dabaR:  when I open Synaptic
[04:30] <varsendagger> towsheba, what is up i use flux --- basically the same thing
[04:31] <arg|bx> so whats going on here?
[04:31] <and> dabaR:  Or do an apt-get
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  gnome has 'gesklets'
[04:31] <dabaR> and: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin, please.
[04:31] <stock> duke3z, you can probably just update-rc.d -f gdm remove (or whatever it is that's starting x)
[04:31] <and> dabaR:  No wait..hold on..I think I might have fixed it
[04:31] <dabaR> and: good work.
[04:31] <duke3z> am still trying to install nvidia driver
[04:31] <stock> so, asked another way, is there a program i can get that will check all the packages i've installed via apt agaisnt ubuntu's security announcements?
[04:32] <dabaR> ubotu: tell duke3z about nvidia
[04:32] <duke3z> but my tears are blurring my vision lol
[04:32] <and> dabaR:  Had to apt-get update... let's see if it helped
[04:32] <towsheba> I have checked in to the #blackbox channel but no one is alive atm
[04:32] <dabaR> towsheba: they need time.
[04:32] <dabaR> towsheba: but, shoot...
[04:32] <and> WOOT I FIXED IT
[04:32] <bimberi> stock: just enable the ubuntu-security repositories and stay updated against them
[04:33] <towsheba> one second
[04:33] <badmacktuck> is there are firewall installed and running by default in breezy? i cant remember.
[04:33] <towsheba> got pm
[04:33] <Chainsaw_Master> is anyone with a solid and not very customized /etc/apt/sources.list kind enough to paste it somewhere and link me?
[04:33] <stock> bimberi, so comment out the rest of the stuff in sources.list?
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> !sources.list
[04:33] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:33] <arg|bx> any got any idea about this kernel thing?
[04:34] <bimberi> stock: no, apt should be set up to prioritise packages in that repository
[04:34] <bimberi> stock: ... set up by default that is (no action required)
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## distribution.
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## repository.
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[04:34] <stock> how will i know if something is updating because it's security related, as opposed to something new?
[04:34] <bimberi> argh!
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## team.
[04:34] <dabaR> badmacktuck: yes, but it is open completely.
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:35] <Toma-> oh dear
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Oh My.
[04:35] <nickrud> maybe that should scroll by now and then :)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:35] <varsendagger> Chainsaw_Master, did you get that?
[04:35] <dabaR> varsendagger: we dont do that, remember?
[04:35] <badmacktuck> dabaR, im trying to figure out why my transfers to/from shares on my network  are sooo slow.
[04:35] <badmacktuck> dabaR, any ideas?
[04:35] <varsendagger> dabaR, do waht
[04:35] <Toma-> varsendagger: you know what a priavte message is?
[04:35] <dabaR> varsendagger: we dont paste in the channel.
[04:35] <Toma-> private even
[04:35] <varsendagger> i thought i did a /msg
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> LOL. :P
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[04:36] <varsendagger> sorry guys
[04:36] <Toma-> you might have done the first line.
[04:36] <bimberi> varsendagger: use /query <nick>
[04:36] <dabaR> badmacktuck: what does the network look like, network is just a name, the layout differs.
[04:36] <varsendagger> ----- jumps of a tall building
[04:36] <arg|bx> can anyone help with the installer?
[04:36] <Chainsaw_Master> yep
[04:36] <Chainsaw_Master> thanks :)
[04:37] <dabaR> varsendagger: good work:)
[04:37] <dabaR> arg|bx: why do you choose a kernel, I never did during install.
[04:37] <arg|bx> dabaR: expert install because of pre-existing partitions
[04:37] <badmacktuck> dabaR, the two comps are my breezy install with a 3com 10/100 and an xp box with marvell gigabit card. all connected using cat5e and a zyxel  5 port gigabit switch
[04:37] <WebLOCH> dabaR, where are you studying erds/databasing at the moment?  I would be interested in your reference materials if they are not private.
[04:38] <dabaR> arg|bx: on breezy?
[04:38] <arg|bx> dabaR: yes
[04:38] <kvantti> arg|bx have a look at the install information from the boot: menu your installer displays, and see if you need to give speciel parameters for the installer that match your hardware.
[04:38] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, its sexy isnt it?  Breezy knows about your gigabit.  It knows allllll about your gigabit.
[04:38] <arg|bx> it never creates the logfile i'm supposed to look at
[04:38] <dabaR> WebLOCH: well, not atm, but this term, UofW. They are not private, the prof notes. I can even get you the book in e fornmat that Iscanned onto my web site.
[04:38] <WebLOCH> ooh
[04:39] <WebLOCH> dabaR, just about any format is good, I like to keep ahold of good ref materials
[04:39] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thats the problem. it doesnt becuase the breezy box is not gigabit
[04:39] <arg|bx> kvantti: i don't have any particular problems with debian or knoppix on the same hardware
[04:39] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck,  harsh luck buddy
[04:39] <kvantti> arg|bx ubuntu is a different system. just a hint.
[04:39] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, time to get a new card methinks
[04:39] <arg|bx> kvantti: aye, to a point. not so much so that the d-i should not create a log file
[04:40] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, depends on if you need it or not, but if you got the cash spare, no reason not to!
[04:40] <Toma-> arg|bx: why are u using the expert install?
[04:40] <bimberi> arg|bx: the normal install will still let you choose partitions
[04:40] <ChocoPanda> yo
[04:40] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, is there a chipset i should look for. never bought networking equipment for linux
[04:41] <indigirl1> man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system     why am i getting this error?
[04:41] <kvantti> arg|bx my point is, that you could try to look those F-menu items. the installer could bug with your hardware, for example my rt2500 is not identified by the installer, but the system detects it just fine..
[04:41] <kvantti> arg|bx and kernel is very hardware related
[04:41] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, i have two onboard gigabit adapters ill check them now
[04:41] <dabaR> arg|bx: what is the partition layout?
[04:41] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thank you sir
[04:42] <arg|bx> dabaR: what info do you want to know? there are 21 partitions...
[04:42] <jeff303> can someone explain what dist-upgrade is, when upgrading to breezy?  is it a meta package?
[04:42] <indigirl1> jeff303: not a package, it's just a command to apt-get
[04:42] <stock> how can i list all installed packages?
[04:42] <jeff303> indigirl1: but that comes after changing the repositories to point to breezy, then marking upgrade, yes?
[04:42] <kvantti> jeff303 dist-upgrade is a predefined "script" the aptitude uses which allows you to upgrade your distribution without having to "install" anything
[04:42] <indigirl1> stock: dpkg -l
[04:42] <stock> oh, thanks
[04:42] <rixth> What do you do if apt-get seg faults apart from cry?
[04:42] <dabaR> arg|bx: you dont need to run "expert" install to manually edit the partition tables. the default "enter" install doees that too.
[04:43] <bimberi> stock: dpkg -l | grep ii
[04:43] <arg|bx> bimberi: so it will use partitions i created for it, without disturbing existing ones, in normal install mode?
[04:43] <stock> ah, okay, that makes more sense
[04:43] <indigirl1> jeff303: thats true yes. and first do a     apt-get update
[04:43] <arg|bx> i also don't want ubuntu writing lilo
[04:43] <jeff303> indigirl1:  same as running the auto-update gui, correct?
[04:43] <kvantti> jeff303 but you must have your sources defined in synaptic, since it wont work if it does not know where to get the material
[04:43] <indigirl1> jeff303: in synaptic, yes right
[04:43] <bimberi> arg|bx: yes, just choose manual partitioning when asked
[04:43] <jeff303> indigirl1:  ok thanks
[04:44] <dabaR> badmacktuck: that sounds fine, but I dont know how samba really works, but I would not expect the protocol itself to slow down considerably. You can flush your iptables rules. sudo iptables --flush. That makes sure you dont have some firewall thing set up. Otherwise, if you have checked both computers for firewalls, likely a hardware issue.
[04:44] <treitter> nice.. just got a giant bag of Ubuntu love :)
[04:44] <stock> if the computer is headless, but acts as an xserver for clients, i don't need all the xserver-* packages, do i?
[04:44] <jeff303> I followed the instructions on the wiki which said to change the "main restricted" us repository from hoary to breezy
[04:44] <bimberi> arg|bx: ... and specify which ones you want as /, /boot (or whatever)
[04:44] <jeff303> kvantti: sorry meant that for you
[04:44] <indigirl1> jeff303: yes just change all occurences of the word hoary to breezy
[04:45] <Alex`> Woohoo, I installed Ubuntu 5.01 on my 12 year old mac clone w/64MB RAM, 2GB HD, and a 210MHz 604e.
[04:45] <badmacktuck> dabaR, thank you. someday i hope to be answering questions in here
[04:45] <kvantti> jeff303 yes, and you can just go ahead and define the updates and security too while you are at it
[04:45] <dabaR> jeff303: that is right, dist-uipgrade is a command line command, and not for synaptic.
[04:45] <Alex`> Firefox even ran on that thing, I was impressed.
[04:45] <dabaR> badmacktuck: I answer even though I dont have a clue mostly:P...
[04:45] <arg|bx> bimberi: right, thats what i've done with the expert install. it did whine about "rather strange layouts" on some of the partitions, but none of the ones i want it involved with
[04:45] <kvantti> jeff303 i have the updates and security defined to official, which is "main restricted" i think
[04:45] <badmacktuck> hahaha
[04:45] <Rex_> dabaR: I got disconnected. We had just established that I could ping both computers from the other. Any other ideas?
[04:46] <jeff303> so, are the dist-upgrade and changing repositories in synaptic mutually exclusive, or do I need to do them both?
[04:46] <dabaR> former
[04:46] <indigirl1> jeff303: same place, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:46] <bimberi> arg|bx: ah, k, i'm also wondering if it could be a bad CD (or burned from a bad ISO)
[04:46] <dabaR> if done properly.
[04:46] <indigirl1> jeff303: synaptic just grabs its info from that file
[04:46] <kvantti> jeff303 you must do both to get it done, but the system is basically under the same subsystem
[04:46] <dabaR> treitter: what payments did you have to make(customs...)
[04:46] <kvantti> jeff303 since
[04:47] <indigirl1> jeff303: only do one really
[04:47] <treitter> dabaR: I didn't pay anything
[04:47] <bimberi> arg|bx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto (although if you're playing with partitions you'll probably know most of that :) )
[04:47] <pussfeller> why is xine saying it cant play mp3s?
[04:47] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, the first is an intel PCIe Gigabit LAN, the other is Marvel 88E8001
[04:48] <arg|bx> bimberi: well, i *did* merely assume that the iso was ok :)
[04:48] <arg|bx> not realy pleased that i had to burn it to disk in the first place
[04:48] <dabaR> treitter: we are working on convincing the Croatian customs authorities to allow for free entry of that into Croatia(well, Im not there, but ubuntu users from there are)
[04:48] <jeff303> ok makes more sense, thanks everybody
[04:48] <bimberi> arg|bx: :)
[04:48] <indigirl1> pussfeller: xine the frontend needs plugins to play files. looks for a xine-mp3 plugin package (or something similar)
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starter guide
[04:49] <ubotu> indigirl1: Syntax error in line 1
[04:49] <kvantti> arg|bx if you download is giving errors, you can get those free shiny inst discs from shipit.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starter-guide
[04:49] <ubotu> indigirl1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starterguide
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, starterguide is http://help.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <indigirl1> pussfeller: check the installer guide for info like that, it is very helpful
[04:49] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thanks, duly noted. im out for the night.
[04:49] <kvantti> arg|bx and do use md5sum to confirm your iso anyway.
[04:49] <arg|bx> kvantti: well, its kubuntu actually
[04:49] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, sleep well
[04:50] <arg|bx> hmm, the packages file seems to fail verification :/
[04:50] <etzerd> hello all
[04:50] <Fushi> Heyo
[04:50] <kvantti> arg|bx on my system, the kde desktop crashed after 3 minutes of usage, so i really dont trust kubuntu
[04:50] <etzerd> is this ubuntu chanel?
[04:50] <rixth> Okay, I tried to ask a 'smart' question but got ignored. Please guys- I'm needing help here! == apt-get is segfaulting. I have rebooted, reseated my memory, still faults. What should I try now?
[04:50] <indigirl1> etzerd: of course
[04:51] <Fushi> Yes this is:o
[04:51] <arg|bx> kvantti: hmm, that doesn't sound nice
[04:51] <indigirl1> rixth: does synaptic give a helpful error message?
[04:51] <rixth> indigirl1, I use the commandline, and no, it does not
[04:52] <stock> is it only apt-get that segfaults?
[04:52] <kvantti> arg|bx ubuntu has given me 1 crash in 5.04, and that was by the help system. talk about reliability..
[04:52] <rixth> Reading package lists... Done
[04:52] <rixth> Segmentation faulty tree... 50%
[04:52] <rixth> Not helpful at all!
[04:52] <treitter> dabaR: I'm sure there are other countries require customs fees. I wonder how those countries are handled
[04:52] <stock> hmmm
[04:52] <stock> is that a segfault?
[04:52] <arg|bx> kvantti: aye, whereas debian hasn't crashed on me in 5 years....
[04:52] <arg|bx> save for kdm being a bit stupid from time to time
[04:53] <dabaR> arg|bx: well, the system here is not crashing either...
[04:53] <fizzle> hey i got ubuntu but when i installed it before it ran slow because i only have 128mb of memory. is there any way to free memory to make it run smoother?
[04:53] <kvantti> arx|bx have a shot with ubuntu. the kde is something i think which is more windows-accustomed people by the looks of it.
[04:53] <Rex_> Anyone else have any ideas how I can access a Windows folder that I think I'm sharing over the network under Ubuntu, or why the "Places" -> "Network servers" dialog doesn't seem to be working for this?
[04:54] <arg|bx> kvantti: i develop a kde app :)
[04:54] <kvantti> fizzle since the minimun is 96, i believe you are running at the edge of ram. i would buy something like 512 if i were you
[04:54] <Xenguy> fizzle: you can try running xfce4 for a leaner desktop environment, but those bloated apps like OOo will never run fast on older hardware unforutnately
[04:54] <arg|bx> how do i get the regular installer to forget about the network interface?
[04:54] <indigirl1> rixth: one post from google search says works for them:   delete /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[04:54] <fizzle> kvantti; yeah i agree but RDRAM costs too much for me
[04:54] <fizzle> im on a p4 1.5ghz
[04:55] <fizzle> i usually use fluxbox but for some reason fluxbox locks up in ubuntu
[04:55] <dabaR> arg|bx: forget how? there is an option.
[04:55] <stock> rixth, http://hamsterrepublic.com/james/linux/index.php
[04:55] <stock> the answer seems to be there
[04:55] <dabaR> fizzle: use openbox, if you will.
[04:55] <Xenguy> fizzle: that sounds like sufficient hardware to me
[04:55] <dabaR> fizzle: it is in universe.
[04:55] <indigirl1> rixth: i searched google.com/linux for segmentation faulty tree. you might want to try that for more info
[04:55] <arg|bx> dabaR: it wants me to choose one of eth0, eth1 or usb
[04:55] <rixth> Wow! Much love for indigirl1!
[04:55] <Xenguy> fizzle: anyway, xfce4 is worth a look
[04:55] <rixth> Thanks!
[04:55] <kvantti> arg|bx when it has attempted dhcp configuration, you can select "do not configure at this time" and a tweak to make that possible is to disconnect your dsl modem from the interface, which makes the config impossible
[04:56] <dabaR> kvantti: what what what?(kyle's mom) no, you can have it all connected.
[04:56] <arg|bx> kvantti: you're right, i must have been too quick on the enter key :)
[04:56] <indigirl1> rixth: sounds like that worked then
[04:57] <rixth> indigirl1, sure did. thank you
[04:57] <indigirl1> great
[04:57] <kvantti> dabaR well at least it can be done by disallowing the configuration with the option
[04:57] <benguin> hi there
[04:57] <dabaR> kvantti: that part yes.
[04:58] <benguin> anyone has a laptop with an ATI IXP soundcard?
[04:58] <indigirl1> benguin: i do. toshiba satellite
[04:58] <kvantti> dabaR i only use wlan and the setup is a bit different for me..
[04:58] <benguin> hi indigirl1 ..
[04:58] <benguin> indigirl1: do you use skype on linux?
[04:58] <indigirl1> benguin: no have not tried it on linux
[04:58] <snausages> skype is so bad on ubuntu
[04:58] <benguin> I am having a few problems with audio on my Pavilion ZX5000.
[04:58] <snausages> and probably every other distro
[04:59] <indigirl1> benguin: be specific
[04:59] <benguin> I have followed the alsa-esd howto to support multiple programs with sound simultaneously
[04:59] <benguin> i am, indigirl1 .. just laying the background
[04:59] <benguin> I also have a winmodem, that i don't use..
[04:59] <benguin> but alsa picks up that device as a sound card
[05:00] <arg|bx> ok, partitionner running...
[05:00] <benguin> loads the snd_atiixp_modem driver
[05:00] <dabaR> benguin: if you post in one line, that is better, cause then anyone can read it...
[05:00] <indigirl1> benguin: you probably know winmodems are notorious in linux.
[05:00] <benguin> koay dabaR
[05:00] <benguin> and indigirl1 : yes, i know. I don't use that modem.
[05:00] <arg|bx> ..and whining about strange layouts on my debian partitions...
[05:01] <varsendagger> arg|bx, why the debate between ubuntu and debian?
[05:01] <arg|bx> varsendagger: debate?
[05:01] <indigirl1> benguin: if esd is a sound server you may want to try without that for testing
[05:01] <benguin> okay, all in one line. when i call someone or receive a call in skype, the person at the other end can hear me cleanly. I cannot hear the other end, however. I get loads of noise on my headphone or speaker output.
[05:02] <jnymo> are there less troden ubuntu channels?
[05:02] <benguin> indigirl1: i do not run esd. I did a killall esd before testing.
[05:02] <arg|bx> jnymo: that depends on what a troden is
[05:02] <jnymo> arg|bx: traffic
[05:02] <indigirl1> benguin: have you tried it with different people?
[05:02] <pussfeller> so why doesnt xine play mp3s anymore, i thot 32codecs gave xine mp3 power
[05:03] <benguin> indigirl1: yes i have
[05:03] <arg|bx> jnymo: ahh. well, busy is better than silent :)
[05:03] <indigirl1> pussfeller: use xmms to play mp3
[05:03] <jnymo> arg|bx: very true..
[05:03] <rixth> One more question. How can I get the address bar back in Nautilus? It has dissapear. I miss being able to type "smb://hostname"
[05:03] <indigirl1> pussfeller: w32codecs is not for mp3 files i dont think
[05:03] <pussfeller> i need xine as an engine for amarok
[05:04] <indigirl1> pussfeller: i think amarok can use other engines
[05:04] <kvantti> a little of a hint. if you are low on cash and need a 5.1 system, the zalman theatre 6 5.1 headset is about 30-40 bucks..
[05:04] <dabaR> pussfeller: read pms from ubotu
[05:04] <kvantti> i really find this hardware to be excellent..
[05:04] <pussfeller> i know, i want xine , gstreamer not good yet
[05:04] <benguin> indigirl1: one additional thing, if it is of any value: I have used skype under hoary. without problems.
[05:04] <kvantti> pussfeller try out vlc..
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> lol... #windows
[05:04] <reter> i am having trouble with synaptic. it is not taking my passwords. what do i need to do?
[05:04] <pussfeller> i have lame and all that
[05:04] <towsheba> Hell0 again
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> reter, u mean when you open it up?
[05:05] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: hey whats happenin its me n0odl3
[05:05] <indigirl1> reter: why does synaptic need a password?
[05:05] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: how do i fix keys again?
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, wasap?
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, lol u seriuos?
[05:06] <indigirl1> benguin: try an earlier version of skype maybe
[05:06] <reter> indigirl1, i dont know why it needs a password. it always ask for one and then it rejects it
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> reter, you prolly enabled a root account, try from a commandline: gksu synaptic
[05:06] <reter> pppoe_dude, yes when i try to open it
[05:06] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: yeah i dont know where i put my notes
[05:06] <benguin> indigirl1: okay, will do.
[05:06] <indigirl1> reter: to become root maybe. thats not a problem with synaptic.
[05:06] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: what was the command? gpgkeyserve
[05:06] <benguin> indigirl1: wondering if this is just skype or the soundcard itself
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, is it with the same server?
[05:07] <indigirl1> reter: set your root passwd      sudo passwd root
[05:07] <indigirl1> reter: on the command line
[05:07] <reter> unknown id gksu
[05:07] <indigirl1> benguin: not the soundcard because you said it worked earlier
[05:07] <kvantti> i wonder where one enables 5.1 output in the vlc setup. the program is crowded with options and i cant find that option..
[05:07] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: no but i just want to know it for refrence if you dont mind ^-^
[05:07] <arg|bx> bimberi: i have no idea why it was stopping before, the simple installer seems to have gone right on by the kernel installation...
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys [key number]
[05:08] <benguin> indigirl1: yeah i know.. maybe the alsa or something.. oh well. thanks for the help.
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> apt-key add ~/pubring.gpg
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: try without alsa
[05:08] <arg|bx> hopefully it hasn't trompped on the mbr
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: try out oss
[05:08] <kvantti> benguin you can install gnome-alsamixer which is much better than the default mixer tool
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, *apt-key add ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[05:08] <benguin> indigirl1: why oss, may i ask?
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: i wonder if you have volumes too high. look around in alsamixer for mutes and volumes
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, all as root or with sudo
[05:08] <benguin> kvantti: thanks, will check
[05:09] <indigirl1> benguin: try oss to see if alsa is a problem
[05:09] <benguin> indigirl1: checked everything. volumes are as normal as it can be
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> reter, why don't you just use apt-get?
[05:09] <benguin> indigirl1: i load the alsa oss emulation module. is that enough?
[05:09] <arg|bx> molasses uphill running
[05:09] <indigirl1> benguin: emulation sounds like a bad word. you want pure stuff when testing or troubleshooting
[05:10] <bimberi> arg|bx: k, that's strange but good i guess :)
[05:10] <benguin> indigirl1: okay, i don't have OSS compiled in this kernel. will check it out.
[05:10] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: cool thanx. have you ever heard of polyphasic sleep?
[05:10] <indigirl1> reter: yea try apt-get instead. its much more responsive
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, whats that?
[05:11] <sethk> benguin, you want to use the OSS compatibility part of ALSA.  Don't compile OSS into the kernel
[05:11] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: its when you sleep 15-30 every four hours instead of sleeping 8 hrs strait
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> anyone noticed with firefox 1.0.7 the following bug?: pressing the back button twice quickly results in a crash
[05:11] <benguin> sethk: thats what i did
[05:12] <arg|bx> bimberi: i guess, but after you mentioned verifying the iso i asked the d-i to check the cd integrity.. it failed instantly..
[05:12] <indigirl1> benguin: thats right. no need to recompile kernel. you dont want the outdated stuff.
[05:12] <rixth> n0dl, Don't I remember you coming into #ubuntu yesterday with the nickanme 'RICK_JAMES_BITCH'?
[05:12] <sethk> benguin, just making sure.  OSS is still there, and that would definitely be a mistake.  :)
[05:12] <kvantti> sethk the oss is not active if you don't select it as output method. is there some reason not to have oss available?
[05:12] <indigirl1> benguin: sorry if i told you wrong
[05:12] <benguin> indigirl1: thats why i was kinda confused with ODD
[05:12] <benguin> OSS rather
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, interesting... i bet it results in more dreaming.... but prolly needs a lot of determination
[05:12] <n0dl> rixth: that wasnt me that was bored2k
[05:12] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: lol well imma try it out now
[05:12] <sethk> kvantti, I think there are probably cases where oss is the default and the newer ALSA interface is better.
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> lol
[05:13] <sethk> kvantti, so if oss is available you don't get the optimal result
[05:13] <bimberi> arg|bx: ah, but it's installing anyway?
[05:13] <rixth> n0dl, he had the same hostname & username as you...
[05:13] <benguin> indigirl1,sethk: no pure OSS support at all in this kernel. I have alsa compatibility modules loaded
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> yo you guys should see #windows... its hilarious
[05:13] <indigirl1> benguin: amarok is kde based right? i remember having sound problems with kde stuff. i would unload kde
[05:13] <benguin> snd_pcm_oss
[05:13] <arg|bx> bimberi: yes
[05:13] <sethk> benguin, that should do it
[05:13] <benguin> indigirl1: i use gnome. no trace of kde here
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> but i guess out of respect i shouldnt say that
[05:13] <n0dl> rixth: sorry that wasnt me that was bored2k trust me
[05:13] <n0dl> rixth:  you can go to ubuntu forums and ask
[05:13] <n0dl> if you want
[05:13] <rixth> n0dl, nope I believe you
[05:14] <kvantti> sethk so it improves quality if oss is not available? that is very strange since the audio system should not use oss in any way if alsa is selected to my intuition atleast
[05:14] <indigirl1> benguin: well if sound in other apps works and skype doesnt then i would go after skype cause thats your problem. try an earlier version of skype
[05:14] <n0dl> rixth: have you heard of polyphasic sleep by any chance?
[05:14] <Ep|phany> anyone here know how i can reinstall audio drivers?
[05:14] <bimberi> arg|bx: well that's ... um ... interesting :)
[05:14] <benguin> indigirl1: I will post something in the skype forum, see what happens
[05:14] <sethk> kvantti, My memory may not be correct on this, so check it out.  There are apps that do things themselves rather than let the audio system do it for them.  This is an error, of course, but such apps exist.
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> "I cant
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> , i'm not a major windows guy :)"
[05:15] <benguin> indigirl1, sethk: just was wondering if anyone else has the same problem
[05:15] <arg|bx> bimberi: well, it could be the d-i doesn't do the verification properly after the installer has started
[05:15] <sethk> benguin, you can be certain that lots of other people have the same problem, absolutely.
[05:15] <kvantti> i have this problem that i keep waking up at 3-4 am every now and then..but do talk about medicine in #ubuntu-offtopic i believe :)
[05:15] <arg|bx> bimberi: i tried to run it a second time but it wouldn't admit the cd was an ubuntu cd
[05:15] <benguin> sethk: that'd make me happy, in a kinda sadistic way. maybe they'll fix it soon.
[05:16] <ecobuntu> !javadebs
[05:16] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:16] <benguin> sethk: my desktop has SB Live!, runs breezy too. No problems with skype there.
[05:16] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: why would you reinstall drivers?
[05:16] <sethk> benguin, you would have to search for a long, long time to find a problem that other people don't have and you do.
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, polyphasic sleep will prolly do some damage, as your brain wouldn't get a chance to enter crucial stages of sleep
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, your immune system gets a boost during deep sleep, which unfortunately you wont reach that way ;)
[05:16] <sethk> pppoe_dude, what?  I can't concentrate on such a long sentence, because of my sleep disruption
[05:17] <arg|bx> yay, nice to see it asked before eating the mbr :)
[05:17] <kvantti> ppoe_dude yeah something is obviously wrong with me too since i feel extremely tired all the time but i still cant sleep
[05:17] <alekz> how can i change a profile in firefox ?
[05:17] <towsheba> Hell0..once again
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, have you tried turning your computer off :P?
[05:18] <towsheba> No one is alive in #fluxbox and I wanted to know if there is any one willing to help me with the fluxbox right click menu
[05:18] <kvantti> ppoe_dude hehehe i have played ancient domains of mystery for the last 8 years so not very often ;)
[05:18] <TheBeast> towsheba: you cd ~/.fluxbox and you edit the "menu" file which is present in that directory according to your needs
[05:19] <towsheba> thnk you
[05:19] <arg|bx> err, checking all filesystems :(
[05:19] <threeseas> what other type of things can cause ubuntu installed to freeze up besides acpi and powernowd ?
[05:19] <pppoe_dude> its fun to experiment with sleep tho... www.lucidity.com
[05:19] <TheBeast> you most likely already have some entries, so follow the syntax
[05:20] <kvantti> so is it really true that ext3 does not fragmentate at all..?
[05:20] <TheBeast> [exec]  (THIS IS MY COOL ENTRY) {/usr/bin/firefox}
[05:20] <cast> does ubuntu ship with xen support?
[05:20] <Ep|phany> anyone know how to reinstallthe defualt audio drivers?
[05:20] <TheBeast> it'll launch firefox
[05:20] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, it probably does to a lesser extent, but theres no apparent way to defragment it
[05:20] <towsheba> Damnit I need to quit closing things
[05:20] <indigirl1> alekz: change it how? like create a new one? create a new linux user and login from that username
[05:21] <indigirl1> threeseas: anything can cause a freeze
[05:21] <towsheba> cd ~/ .fluxbox is what you said correct? TheBeast:
[05:22] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: what do you mean by reinstall? and why would you want to?
[05:22] <kvantti> ppoe_dude so that would mean that the need to not reinstall ubuntu ever is not that black and white?
[05:22] <WebLOCH> nighty all
[05:22] <leilson> Ola
[05:22] <trigg3r> hello
[05:22] <WebLOCH> thanks again dabaR
[05:22] <indigirl1> kvantti: reinstall will rarely fix a problem. thats just avoiding the problem
[05:22] <trigg3r> quick q: how do you access samba shares from the CLI?
[05:22] <majyk> anyone have any problems where their sound card was working fine then just stopped working (5.10)?
[05:23] <towsheba> well it would help is my bbconfig package was not broken :P
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, i think that ext3 is self-maintaining, and when you run fsck, delete files, add new files, etc... it repairs itself to a certain extent
[05:23] <cast> majyk: changed the kernel?
[05:23] <Ep|phany> well see what happened was i installed this gstream0.8-mad thing so i could use mp3s in amorok but when i did that it uninstalled something and now i can only change the volume on master and not the volume for pc speakers and the sound icon shows it as mute
[05:23] <majyk> cast, I haven't changed anything
[05:23] <indigirl1> majyk: tons of people have had that problem im sure
[05:23] <threeseas> indigirl1: in other words ubuntu is no where near as stable as other distrobutions?
[05:23] <Ep|phany> indigirll read the above
[05:23] <indigirl1> threeseas: of course its as stable. its based on debian
[05:23] <kvantti> ppoe_dude allright that relieved much
[05:24] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: thats not a driver problem
[05:24] <majyk> I get no errors trying to play music, I just get no sound. I've looked at the mixer and it is not muted
[05:24] <cast> indigirl1: yes but is it based on debian stable? ;)
[05:24] <trigg3r> any takers please? how can I access SMB shares via CLI?
[05:24] <aedes> trigg3r, smbclient
[05:24] <Ep|phany> indigirll what type of problem is it?
[05:24] <trigg3r> aedes: this is all CLI?
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> majyk, is esd running? i think its a bit buggy... try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, then sudo esd&
[05:25] <threeseas> indigirl1: not correct, I've run other debain based distros and never have I had so many freeze and lockup problems
[05:25] <kvantti> ppoea_dude fsck warns me that it should not be run since my part is mounted, so could you explain me how it would be possible to run it safely?
[05:25] <towsheba> so any one here seen the syphany os unique desktop?
[05:25] <tritium> threeseas, ubuntu is stable
[05:25] <towsheba> it is quite a bute
[05:25] <indigirl1> threeseas: it just depends what causes the freezes. be specific what youre doing when they happen
[05:25] <choudesh> towsheba, yes.
[05:25] <kvantti> ubuntu is superior in it's stability. in crash in 5.04 for me
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, sure, do you have root enabled?
[05:26] <trigg3r> aedes: hold on, gonna try that out..thanks!
[05:26] <kvantti> ppoea_dude i just use sudo -i . would the command be unmount dev/hda2?
[05:26] <cast> keep in mind people stable is a relative term, one persons stable is anothers testing. as ubuntu shows
[05:26] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: software problem. youre not locked into amarok and gstreamer. there are tons of ways to play mp3 files. xmms, mp3blaster, alsaplay. alsamixer can adjust your volumes. just try other programs if youre stuck.
[05:26] <boa-chan> i installed sshd, i just don't know how to run it. can annyone lend me a hand.
[05:26] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, no you should restart the system in single user mode (init 1 as root... you can try sudo init 1 - warning it will close everything)
[05:26] <majyk> pppoe_dude, when I restart alsa-utils I get an error saying it cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing, but it does restart it
[05:27] <Ep|phany> indigirll its not a problem with software its a problem trying to adjust the volumefor everything
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, then umount / and fsck /dev/hda
[05:27] <kvantti> ppoe_dude thanks for the basic
[05:27] <indigirl1> boa-chan: there must be a tutorial for that. also look in /usr/share/doc/sshd for help.
[05:27] <majyk> pppoe_dude, forget that, I forgot sudo
[05:28] <indigirl1> boa-chan: and maybe there is a sshd-doc package for more documentation
[05:28] <boa-chan> theres nothing under /doc for sshd
[05:28] <kvantti> these tunes at shoutcast.com digitally imported/ambient chillout really rock..i dont really see why someone has to have that 100 gig mp3 collection..
[05:29] <threeseas> ubuntu live has no problem with using its acx wireless driver on my system, by the installed ubuntu can't ... lock up/freeze have been addressed by disabling acpi and powernowd and on the ubuntu forums board there seems to be other things that can cause it. I don't find these sort of lockup problems being discussed on distros like knoppix, college linux or even outright debain...
[05:29] <indigirl1> boa-chan: apt-get install sshd-doc     if that package exists
[05:29] <boa-chan> k
[05:29] <boa-chan> nope
[05:29] <boa-chan> doesnt
[05:29] <boa-chan> heh
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> doesnt ubuntu stability depend heavily on the kernel? so i think it's unfair to call ubuntu (or any other distro for that matter) "unstable"
[05:29] <dabaR> no not really.
[05:30] <threeseas> I still have lockups, but it seems to takle less time before it happens
[05:30] <dabaR> depends on how you define stability.
[05:30] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: where do you adjust sound from? inside amarok or from a mixer program? i would suggest using a mixer program, for example alsamixer, or something similar
[05:30] <kvantti> yeah, a software that is at version 10 is rarely unstable..but gnome is much stable than kde to my experience, and every piece of software is a part of the system..so stability does not depend solely on the system ever
[05:30] <sophie_> pppoe_dude: stability is a lot often related to configuration
[05:30] <Toma-> what speed does a 802.11b wifi transfer at? in bytes
[05:31] <boa-chan> haw
[05:31] <boa-chan> get wireless g
[05:31] <boa-chan> so much faster
[05:31] <Toma-> yes. but i have a b.
[05:31] <mpm2> not for internet boa-chan
[05:31] <indigirl1> Toma-: 11mbits/sec maybe
[05:31] <boa-chan> b are maxed at 11 mbps i think
[05:31] <kvantti> Toma- i believe that 11 meg is maximum..i got 54 meg 11g ..
[05:31] <Toma-> info plz not an opinion
[05:31] <Toma-> hmmm ok
[05:31] <boa-chan> mpm2, im referring to lan speed.
[05:31] <Toma-> thanks :)
[05:31] <cast> pppoe_dude: of course it does. the stability of a system is the sum of its parts, if any part is unstable that renders the whole system unstable. thus its just to call the system unstable, and fwiw there are other kernels around ;), not to mention more tried versions then 2.6
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> sophie_, true, however usually you can still render a different distro "unstable" by making a similar configuration... i think it boils down to the ideas in the distro
[05:32] <reter> i am trying to upgrade to breezy and it told me that it needs 476mb from archives. what do i do?
[05:32] <Pirogeth> Is there a howto somewhere on how to compile an ubuntu kernel with GRSEC?
[05:32] <mpm2> I guess most people here are informed, but so many people are deceived by advertising to believe that the 'g' standard will give them faster internet
[05:32] <reter> it is unable to upgrade until it gets 476mb free from archives
[05:32] <indigirl1> kvantti: the tunes from the bb program are pretty cool. and i think its just midi!
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> cast, so we're really talking about the system being unstable "out-of-the-box"?
[05:32] <threeseas> look thru the ubuntu forums board... compair what you find there with other distro decussion - I wish ubunti was more stable than it apparently is, as there are things I do like about it... but its not helping to promote it (as media stories recently have) as being business ready --- doesn't give a good impression for linux in general...
[05:33] <dabaR> reter: that is the upgrade, use the Internet.
[05:33] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: are u trolling?
[05:33] <tritium> mpm2, the speed increase is between the wireless card and the router
[05:33] <angryBeaver> hi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?
[05:33] <dabaR> pah, that threeseas sentence is a stupid one.
[05:33] <kvantti> mpm2 for me the antennea and ubuntu is the key to good performance..windows if at all comparable gave me 25% strenght, and on the ubuntu drivers, the reliability is much better. also make sure to enable frame bursting if possible
[05:34] <Pirogeth> I am trying to figure out how to apply GRSec to the ubuntu kernel. Is there a guide somewhere on how to add grsec to ubuntu?
[05:34] <dabaR> just completely a selfishly put sentence, as if we care about his "business needs"
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, not really... just trying to be a bit philosophical... which could be in your terms considered "trolling"
[05:34] <tritium> he's just trolling, dabaR
[05:34] <dabaR> right
[05:34] <angryBeaver> hi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?
[05:34] <Toma-> philosophy in a help channel... :)
[05:34] <boa-chan> lol
[05:34] <boa-chan> i've seen worse
[05:34] <Toma-> angryBeaver: have you tried using your monitor?
[05:34] <boa-chan> and i got sshd to run
[05:34] <boa-chan> thanks
[05:34] <boa-chan> and mpm2
[05:34] <indigirl1> Pirogeth: im guessing youve tried a search for   ubuntu grsec   at google.com/linux
[05:34] <boa-chan> wifi g is faster for lan speeds
[05:35] <boa-chan> not internet speeds
[05:35] <Pirogeth> indigirl1: i have, and had no luck so far =/
[05:35] <angryBeaver> no - don't have a monitor where I am right now
[05:35] <kvantti> this channel is about the community and aid in the community. what would opinions and phisolophy not be if not aid on the intellectual part of the ubuntu system?
[05:35] <Toma-> and yes, my b wifi is only for connecting to the net. no lan fun here
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> nice... the term 'trolling' was used in the same time period in two different cases just now
[05:35] <boa-chan> heh
[05:35] <boa-chan> then b is more than enuf
[05:35] <boa-chan> but i must use g
[05:36] <mpm2> anyone experienced with getmail??
[05:36] <angryBeaver> is there somewhere you can tweak display settings other than just the resolution and standard stuff
[05:36] <boa-chan> i use it to transfer tsuff from my server pc
[05:36] <boa-chan> which is over 1 gb
[05:36] <boa-chan> err
[05:36] <angryBeaver> it's a laptop, so I can't adjust it there
[05:36] <boa-chan> 1tb*
[05:36] <Toma-> angryBeaver: with the xorg.conf file, but dont go tweaking stuff you dont understand, otherwise it will leave your laptop in ruins
[05:37] <boa-chan> heh
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> is a driver for the ATi Radeon X700 included in the ubuntu cd?
[05:37] <boa-chan> he could gry his lcd too
[05:37] <boa-chan> fry
[05:37] <ubuntu> ???
[05:37] <angryBeaver> It's a laptop - there aren't any controls for the display
[05:37] <boa-chan> DavidLeeRoth, http://www.ati.com
[05:37] <indigirl1> angryBeaver: xvidtune    maybe, although its warning is scary
[05:37] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, yes, fglrx
[05:38] <varsendagger> anyone get xmms-mplayer plugin working?
[05:38] <tritium> boa-chan, there are fglrx packages.  No need for going to ati's website
[05:38] <kvantti> DavidLeeRot the generic radeon drivers should work, as x11 drivers has support for my card as well as many others
[05:38] <angryBeaver> It's an old compaq that I've revived from Windows ME Hell
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> thank you all
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> YANKEE ROSE
[05:38] <boa-chan> tritium, ok.
[05:38] <sethk> DavidLeeRoth, I have a laptop with radeon, it works reasonably well
[05:38] <indigirl1> DavidLeeRoth: install the fglrx driver i think
[05:38] <choudesh> angryBeaver, Windows ME Hell? I think Hell would have been much nicer.
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> gnome-video-thumbnailer takes up a lot of resources
[05:39] <kvantti> i got excellent performance with my nvidia card and i dont see that x11 is any poorer than forceware
[05:39] <angryBeaver> choudesh, true.  very true
[05:39] <alex__> Can someone help me with a network permissions problem?
[05:39] <tritium> !tell DavidLeeRoth about ati
[05:39] <indigirl1> alex__: dont ask to ask just ask
[05:39] <Reid> does anyone know how to configure an xserver?
[05:39] <DShepherd> hey
[05:40] <alex__> I have a share on a windows machine with music and the such. I can't seem to get write permissions from this machine
[05:40] <indigirl1> Reid: be specific. configure what how?
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> Reid, what kind of configuration are you looking for?
[05:40] <Toma-> alex__: what network protocol u using?
[05:40] <Reid> i'm not sure
[05:40] <alex__> Samba
[05:40] <aedes> some one needs to make an anjuta package for Ubuntu
[05:40] <Reid> it errors out and says 'run drm again when xserver is configured correctly
[05:40] <Reid> '
[05:40] <benguin> hi again
[05:40] <cast> aedes: well get to work ;p
[05:40] <paxmaster> how could I make my ati working so my brother will use linux
[05:41] <_jason> aedes, isn't there one?
[05:41] <benguin> indigirl1, sethk : just to report back in.. using an older version of skype solved the problem
[05:41] <indigirl1> paxmaster: ati works on ubuntu
[05:41] <indigirl1> benguin: lol. cool
[05:41] <_jason> aedes, I think I just isntalled it a few minutes ago
[05:41] <paxmaster> he only like to play
[05:41] <angryBeaver> ubuntu is great
[05:41] <benguin> indigirl1: thats what you call an UP-grade
[05:41] <benguin> lol
[05:41] <paxmaster> so how could I configure it
[05:41] <indigirl1> benguin: you told me the solution in your own words. i just repeated it back to you.
[05:41] <DShepherd> paxmaster: oh you want the various games to work as well
[05:41] <sethk> benguin, that's good to know; I have to use skype next month when my software is installed on the manufacturing floor in Taiwan, so I appreciate the information
[05:41] <dabaR> what is that apt-get command to clear out ../apt/cache/archives?
[05:41] <alex__> I mounted my share via fstab and mount -a... I can read it fine but I cant make any changes
[05:42] <benguin> indigirl1: yeah well, i believe in progress.. hehe. thanks though.
[05:42] <paxmaster> i have cedega
[05:42] <benguin> sethk: no problems... next target.. software suspend2
[05:42] <bimberi> !info anjuta
[05:42] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[05:42] <paxmaster> install
[05:42] <angryBeaver> is it difficult to network ubuntu with a windows machine?
[05:42] <benguin> indigirl1: indy racing?
[05:42] <angryBeaver> going thru the same router
[05:42] <sethk> benguin, tougher target, good luck.
[05:42] <bimberi> aedes: it's in the universe repository
[05:42] <cast> dabaR: have you looked at man apt-get and apt-get help?
[05:42] <benguin> ubotu: what happened to anjuta2
[05:42] <ubotu> benguin: I give up, what is it?
[05:42] <Toma-> alex__: samba isnt my forte :(
[05:42] <dabaR> cast: oh yeah.
[05:42] <indigirl1> benguin: dog's name
[05:42] <paxmaster> some one can guide me or just show a howto
[05:43] <benguin> seth, ubotu: software suspend2 almost works.. it's an issue with apic in my laptop.
[05:43] <Reid> okay does anyone know why i'd get an error stating 'failed to start the xserver'?
[05:43] <benguin> ubotu: in windows terms: hibernation
[05:43] <ubotu> benguin: Not a clue
[05:43] <alex__> Is it possible to set up another protocol with Windows?
[05:43] <cast> alex__: i suggest ftp ;p
[05:43] <bimberi> aedes: if you have breezy - Applications -> Add Application -> Programming -> More Programs -> Anjuta IDE
[05:43] <benguin> ubotu: like, shutting down your comp so that your work remains where they were next time you start it up.
[05:43] <ubotu> benguin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:43] <indigirl1> Reid: lots of possible reasons
[05:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell benguin about yourself
[05:44] <indigirl1> Reid: that error message is very general
[05:44] <benguin> eh! lol
[05:44] <benguin> indigirl1: gotcha :)
[05:44] <Reid> alright would it be a problem with the ati card?
[05:44] <Reid> sorry i'm relatively new to linux
[05:44] <sethk> Reid, it could be, but it could be a million other things also
[05:44] <sethk> Reid, you have to look at the X log
[05:44] <tritium> Reid, first places to look are at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, which is I believe /var/log/X.something
[05:45] <Pirogeth> =/
[05:45] <mpm2> I'm getting an error when trying to use the getmail I installed on Hoary with synaptic that it can't find the Python module getmailcore, that appears to be installed in the correct location... anyone have a clue as to how to troubleshoot this?
[05:45] <ubuntu> I am on Live, but I can't see my hdd with my favourite mp3s
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:45] <dabaR> cast: how come you have a fsf/member/cast mask?
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, although occasionally the 0 might be 1
[05:45] <Reid> sethk what am i looking for in those files?
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, at the end of the file, it will tell you why it shut down
[05:46] <cast> dabaR: associate member :>
[05:46] <Reid> alright...
[05:46] <dabaR> cast: I see }:-)
[05:46] <indigirl1> for some silly reason my root partition is mounted readonly. how do i remount it readwrite? or do i have to reboot?
[05:47] <tritium> Reid, in the log file, look for any errors, indicated by (EE)
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, that means that something went wrong during boot and the boot didn't complete
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> indigirl1, hmm... try sudo mount -a?
[05:47] <F-Lazer> anyone that want to help set up a webpage with apache2?
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, that's a serious problem, generally.  You have to track it down.
[05:47] <Reid> alright,my laptop lost power, i'm rebooting and getting the same error
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, it is very unlikely that it will allow you to remount read/write, but even if it will, that's not what you need to be doing.
[05:47] <cast> what would happen if you mounted over the top of /?
[05:47] <dabaR> F-Lazer: help in what way...