[00:00] <holstein> if you want to know the 'order', i say do them all at once, OR let us know what the packgaes are and we can make suggestions
[00:00] <holstein> Soviet: i am
[00:00] <holstein> yu are worried about the order
[00:00] <holstein> and i say, do it all in one commande.. sudo dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb file3.deb
[00:00] <Soviet> So if it tries to install one package first, and that package requires another package, it will not fail?
[00:00] <holstein> Soviet: you literally have no better option than to jus try that
[00:01] <Oer> Soviet install the metapackage and depencies will follow
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: i am suggesting it because it has worked for me
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: am i positive it will work? no
[00:01] <Soviet> ..guess I'll try it..
[00:01] <Soviet> arigatou.
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: do i think it will? sure... and you can try it.. all in one command and see.. or read the dpkg man pages
[00:02] <Soviet> holstein I tend to ignore when people imply "rtfm" :)
[00:02] <Soviet> Oh, one more thing.
[00:02] <holstein> Soviet: sure.. and im saying "try it" OR else, reading the man page is the only way to be sure, however, i find it worked for me
[00:02] <Oer> did you get !offline, soviet ?
[00:02] <Soviet> I don't know what my distro uses..
[00:02] <Oer> !offline
[00:02] <Oer> !clone
[00:03] <Soviet> like Maverick, lucid etc
[00:03] <Soviet> idk what mine is
[00:03] <barakisbrown> Q:Installing 11.10, It is froezen during configuring system but the I can access the menus like it is not frozen????
[00:03] <holstein> yeah, apt-on-CD would be nice to have ina dialup scneario
[00:03] <Soviet> !APTonCD
[00:03] <Soviet> my version is 9.10
[00:03] <holstein> lsb_release -a Soviet
[00:04] <Soviet> I don't have it running.
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: 9.10 is not supported anymore
[00:04] <Soviet> Well what's it use..?
[00:04] <holstein> 9.10 was karmic
[00:04] <Soviet> k
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: ?
[00:04] <holstein> use?
[00:04] <Soviet> AMD64 or i386?
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: that depends on your machine
[00:04] <Soviet> I take it i386 is intel processors?
[00:05] <holstein> and what you chose to install, since you can run 32bit on 64bit machines
[00:05] <Soviet> my machine is 64bit
[00:05] <holstein> Soviet: its a 32bit vs 64bit thing...
[00:05] <Soviet> but the os.. idk
[00:05] <Soviet> I only have the disk beside me lol
[00:05] <holstein> Soviet: OK.. but did you install 32 or 64?.. you can run uname -a
[00:05] <Oer> what is the output of uname -a ?
[00:05] <Soviet> it's not running.
[00:06] <barakisbrown> Q:Installing 11.10, It is froezen during configuring system but the I can access the menus like it is not frozen????
[00:06] <Soviet> Basically what I'm going to do right now is run the livecd, and use it for a while to get used to it.. I'm probably going to install debian later.
[00:06] <holstein> Soviet: ok... when you get it running, thats a way you can confirm, assuming you have not written it on the CD you are referencing
[00:06] <holstein> barakisbrown: not following you
[00:06] <Oer> barakisbrown, frozen ? use alt + tab to see if there is a hidden dialog waiting
[00:07] <barakisbrown> Oer: just the same window
[00:08] <raphael> qut
[00:08] <barakisbrown> holstein: during install where it says configuring system, the cursor is spinning but th progress bar has not moved. I can access the menu bars uptop .. ??
[00:08] <holstein> barakisbrown: i would wait it out a bit, and make sure its frozen...
[00:09] <holstein> barakisbrown: how long?
[00:09] <barakisbrown> holstein: 10mins
[00:09] <ruxkor> hi everybody! I am trying to get a "classic" drag and drop behavior for my new notebook, but I am not able to find anything useful on launchpad or the forums.. does anybody know how I can achieve "normal" drag and drop (meaning I click and hold with the thumb and use eg the index to drag) back to ubuntu oneiric?
[00:09] <Oer> barakisbrown, do you see the HDD led actions ?
[00:09] <holstein> barakisbrown: yeah, depending on the machine, i might wait over 30 minutes
[00:09] <barakisbrown> Oer: not really
[00:10] <holstein> ruxkor: you want something more like gnome2 ?
[00:10] <holstein> ruxkor: you should be able to grab things and drop them where you like
[00:10] <cheako> Any one watching the game?  http://snfallaccess.nbcsports.com/  Looks like it dosn't work under Ubuntu.
[00:10] <ruxkor> holstein: my current touchpad only allows me to double tap+ drop, sort of like a mac does
[00:11] <holstein> ruxkor: thats how it works though, with touchpads.. otherwise, normal clicking will grab things
[00:11] <ruxkor> if I try to do it "the old way" the touchpad misinterprets my slight thumb movements as mouse movements
[00:11] <barakisbrown> Oer: no light moveement at all
[00:11] <ruxkor> holstein: I thought maybe by changing some parameters on synaptics it is possible to define a "click zone", say in the lower 5% of the pad
[00:12] <ruxkor> but I was only able to disable the lower part altogether
[00:12] <holstein> ruxkor: you can do *anything*.. its not easy though... its all text files, and not trivial
[00:13] <Oer> barakisbrown, that sounds bad. did you check the iso with md5sum ?
[00:13] <barakisbrown> Oer: how do I do that?
[00:13] <Oer> !md5sum
[00:13] <Soviet> I don't see karmic on the packages site
[00:13] <ruxkor> holstein: do you have any idea where I could start to look for that? the manpage and the synaptics parameters page don't turn up anything useful at first sight
[00:13] <holstein> Soviet: karmic is not supported any more
[00:14] <holstein> Soviet: im sure if you dig around, you can find packages though
[00:14] <Soviet> Okie, well I have another option
[00:14] <Soviet> I have:
[00:14] <Soviet> kubuntu 10.04 lts
[00:14] <Soviet> that supported?
[00:14] <holstein> LTS's are long term support.. that is still supported
[00:14] <holstein> not that that really matters to you
[00:14] <ruxkor> Soviet: if you need an unsupported version of ubuntu, you could try the deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[00:15] <holstein> you are not going to be pulling in updates over dial up anyways
[00:15] <Soviet> so am I fucked?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !language | Soviet
[00:15] <Soviet> (´_?`)?
[00:16] <Soviet> >family
[00:16] <Soviet> I lol'd
[00:16] <barakisbrown> Oer: checksum is 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459
[00:16] <Oer> Soviet, 10.04 lts is supported, no worrys
[00:16] <holstein> Soviet: you can download the karmic packages where ruxkor suggested, or the official ones for lucid 10.04 where you like
[00:17] <Soviet> Where in this mountain of folders are they located?
[00:17] <milothebuthar> Hey guys, I'm trying to build libmpfr from source (I need the 32-bit version of it and I'm on a 64 bit machine)... the problem is, after I compile I only get the static version of the library (the .la file)... I need the dynamic version (the .so file). How can I achieve that?
[00:17] <holstein> ruxkor: i would maybe even start somewhere like this http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad
[00:17] <ruxkor> Soviet: the link is the main link that you have to put into your /etc/apt/sources.list, instead of the usual ubuntu ones
[00:17] <barakisbrown> Oer: good iso..md5 matches
[00:18] <Soviet> ruxkor my problem is I can't use internet until I install this package
[00:18] <holstein> Soviet: RIGHT.. you can download them from the internet, and take them over
[00:18] <ruxkor> holstein: thanks, I'll take a look!
[00:18] <Soviet> I'm supposed to download the entire repo on dialup?
[00:18] <barakisbrown> dialup?? whats that??
[00:18] <holstein> Soviet: i was thining just the few packages you need
[00:19] <Soviet> lmao
[00:19] <holstein> thinking*
[00:19] <Soviet> Yeah but where are they :S
[00:19] <holstein> Soviet: what are you looking for?
[00:19] <thetinyj1sus> are you not allowed to have the name jesus cause it seems to change my name all the time
[00:19] <holstein> i would literally just saarch "package name ubuntu version"
[00:19] <Soviet> gnome-ppp + all the dependencies
[00:20] <barakisbrown> holstein: I did make a liveusb from the iso..could it be bad?? What happens if I restart???
[00:21] <holstein> Soviet: for example http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gnome-ppp/download
[00:21] <holstein> barakisbrown: i would wait...then i would try switching to TTY.. if you are not writing to the hard drive, id say its not going to break anything.. but you never know
[00:21] <ruxkor> Soviet: Try to look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find your exact package names, and then go to the old-releases url/dists/your dist
[00:21] <Soviet> karmic isn't there though.
[00:21] <holstein> i wouldnt expect to salvage the install barakisbrown
[00:21] <Soviet> oh
[00:22] <Soviet> That's going to take even longer.
[00:22] <holstein> Soviet: its not trivial
[00:22] <barakisbrown> holstein: I just want to get it installed..:)
[00:22] <holstein> i would so *anything* to *not* do it this way
[00:22] <holstein> i would borrow a NIC.. a wifi dongle.. go to the coffee shop
[00:22] <holstein> whatever
[00:23] <holstein> barakisbrown: right.. but you are experiencing an error it looks like... you can test your hardware... i also like to see the desktop live before installing
[00:23] <Soviet> what's the packages page for kubuntu then
[00:23] <holstein> Soviet: the same
[00:23] <Soviet> eh?
[00:23] <holstein> kubutnu = ubuntu
[00:23] <Soviet> So what will I need for kubuntu 10.04?
[00:23] <holstein> although, you probably wont want to get gnome-ppp and all the gnome stuff ;)
[00:24] <holstein> Soviet: not sure.. i havent done dial up in years, and never in KDE.. i would ask in #kubuntu
[00:24] <Jordan_U> !offline | Soviet
[00:24] <Soviet> Jordan_U I've seen that over 5 times already.
[00:24] <holstein> yeah, apt-on-CD would be ideal for you... it would be great for later too
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Sorry.
[00:24] <mint_> if I create a separate /usr and /usr/local partitions will this backup my applications if I re-install the os. Or will I still have to re-install all applications?
[00:25] <Soviet> holstein I do have another option that I doubt would work.
[00:26] <Soviet> I can connect my win7 laptop to the internet, and plug the ethernet cable into the desktop running ubuntu.
[00:26] <Soviet> And try to share the connection
[00:26] <holstein> Soviet: you could ask in #windows ...i think there is some sort of connection sharing
[00:28] <zacktu> on 11.10 flash has stopped working on both firefox & google-chrome -- appears to be after an update -- what's the fix?
[00:29] <holstein> zacktu: i would try reinstalling.. you can also see about a kernel upgrade incase your graphics are a factor... try booting an older kernel
[00:29] <holstein> zacktu: i mean, reinstalling flash*
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Soviet: You don't need any particular order when installing pacakges with dpkg -i. Just pass all the filenames at once to dpkg -i and dpkg will figure out the order to install them automatically.
[00:30] <holstein> Jordan_U: i think we are now down to what packages are needed :)
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Soviet: I don't know why you were talking about grabbing things from http://packages.ubuntu.com after seeing !offline though. That link gives much easier and better solutions.
[00:31] <Soviet> Jordan_U we found out I have an unsupported version
[00:31] <holstein> yup.. a agree 100%.. for dial up connections, that would save so muh time
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Soviet: I thought you were going to install Ubuntu 10.04, which is supported.
[00:31] <mint_> Do you create swap partition before or after / partition. Does it matter?
[00:31] <Soviet> No, I have kubuntu 10.04
[00:31] <Soviet> I was trying to use ubuntu 9.10
[00:32] <Soviet> I give up.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Soviet: "Ubuntu" encompasses {K,Ed,L,X,} Ubuntu. 10.04 is supported, no matter what flavor.
[00:33] <holstein> dial up is a drag.. i would probably set up a dedicated machine and set up a router for all the rest of the machines in the house assuming i had to use it
[00:33] <Jordan_U> Soviet: So if you install Kubuntu 10.04 you should be able to use http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ to grab the packages you need.
[00:33] <helo1> hello
[00:33] <Soviet> Jordan_U is there I way I can download the package and all the dependencies for kubuntu 10.04 without going through each and every file?
[00:33] <holstein> Soviet: no... ecah file *is* the dependancies
[00:33] <mint_> if I create a separate /usr and /usr/local partitions will this backup my applications if I re-install the os. Or will I still have to re-install all applications?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes, it's been told to you many times, http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[00:34] <Soviet> I mean getting them at once
[00:34] <holstein> seems like you are asking, "can i install all these packages without installing all these packages" Soviet
[00:34] <Soviet> Ok, 10.04 is lucid right?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes.
[00:34] <curiousx> Soviet: yep
[00:34] <penguinman1337> could do kubuntu-desktop. that should install all needed deps
[00:34] <Soviet> When I click download it tries to download a .php file :S
[00:34] <curiousx> i using it right now =P
[00:34] <Soviet> seems apache is messed up
[00:35] <holstein> Soviet: downloading from http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ ?
[00:35] <curiousx> Soviet: why you dont install an updated ubuntu version?
[00:35] <Soviet> yeah
[00:35] <Soviet> the download button at the bottom
[00:35] <Soviet> Because I don't have it
[00:35] <Soviet> I have dialup internet
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Don't click Download, click Find.
[00:36] <Soviet> I did. looks like I have to dl them one by one
[00:36] <holstein> http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Lucid&arch=i386&package=gnome-ppp&have=
[00:36] <holstein> Soviet: right.. you'll need to aquire the needed packages somehow
[00:36] <Soviet> I'll just go through them all.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes, but they're all listed there one after the other. It shouldn't be that hard to click them all.
[00:37] <holstein> yeah, i click them and i get a *.deb
[00:37] <Soviet> God this ordeal made me so frusterd I had to consume more nicotine
[00:38] <Soviet> I think I got this now.
[00:38] <Soviet> I hope so atleast.
[00:38] <holstein> yeah, if you are going to run dial-up.. you must be patient :)
[00:38] <celthunder> Soviet: did you just say you're on dialup?
[00:38] <Soviet> Yes
[00:38] <celthunder> i'm crying for you my friend i really am
[00:39] <Soviet> It's not so bad any more, since I was able to aquire a ton of anime at a friends house.
[00:39] <Soviet> I just watch that now.
[00:39] <Soviet> lol
[00:42] <devildark> ciao
[00:42] <mint_> is 15gb big enough for a / partition
[00:42] <devildark> !list
[00:42] <Gentoo64> mint_, yes
[00:42] <mega73>  mega72
[00:42] <mint_> thanks
[00:43] <helo1> Can someone help me with a script? I need to write a cron job that checks a log file. The log file contains entries from a daemon that is always running and appending the most recent entries to the file. I need a way to parse the log file for just the last minute or two of entries to see if a certain error is repeating. If the error is occurring, then restart the daemon. Please and thanks!
[00:44] <Starcraftmazter> hello, how do i install .deb files in ubuntu now
[00:45] <Gentoo64> Starcraftmazter, double click it?
[00:45] <Starcraftmazter> Gentoo64: it opens it with some sort of archive manager if i do that...
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Starcraftmazter: What exactly are you trying to install?
[00:45] <xangua> Starcraftmazter: double clic, you should preferently install from repositories
[00:45] <Gentoo64> ah i thought it opened with software center
[00:47] <Starcraftmazter> xangua: double clicking does not work
[00:47] <Starcraftmazter> can you give me a shell command
[00:47] <gisli> hi guys, do I need to have /var/tmp available after restart? isn't it enough to just mount it to tmpfs?
[00:47] <Gentoo64> gisli, you could use a tmpfs
[00:50] <gisli> Gentoo64: alright cheers, but what about /var/log? The thing is that I have a SSD as my system-drive and I wanna get rid of the logging write-wear. Is it enough to just copy the /var/log to my HDD, edit fstab so that /var/log  mounts on the HDD and then restart?
[00:50] <WoC> gisli should work, dont forget the permissions
[00:50] <Gentoo64> gisli, you can, but what ssd is it?
[00:50] <WoC> assuming you have enough mem
[00:50] <Gentoo64> you dont need to worry about all that wear stuff on newer ssds
[00:50] <gisli> WoC: permissions?
[00:51] <WoC> tmpfs
[00:51] <Gentoo64> them ssd optimization guides are for older gen
[00:51] <gisli> Gentoo64: mushkin 60gb something
[00:51] <WoC> make sure it sets 1777 for the mounted tmp
[00:51] <gisli> Gentoo64: it's about one years old
[00:51] <Gentoo64> gisli, i wouldnt be so paranoid
[00:51] <WoC> gisli it works for me btw
[00:52] <gisli> WoC: how do I do that? :p
[00:52] <Gentoo64> theyre meant to last like a decade of constant writes
[00:52] <WoC> gisli sec...
[00:52] <gisli> Gentoo64: oh okay, didn't know that :p
[00:52] <Gentoo64> gisli, add mode=1777
[00:52] <Gentoo64> in fstab options line
[00:52] <estudiante> spanish
[00:53] <Gentoo64> eg defaults,noatime,mode=1777
[00:53] <Gentoo64> thats what i use
[00:53] <WoC> right gisli what Gentoo64 said
[00:55] <WoC> Gentoo64 i think i am too, i just cant check it atm
[00:58] <WoC> {Ã,Ã}
[00:58] <gisli> Gentoo64: WoC: so this is right: tmpfs /tmp(and /var/tmp) tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,mode=1777 0 0 ?
[00:59] <WoC> i would put only default,noatime,mode=1777
[00:59] <WoC> err
[00:59] <thetinyjesus> whats good people
[00:59] <WoC> i would put only defaults,noatime,mode=1777
[01:00] <gisli> and /var/log would be something like "/mount/point /var/log ext4 defaults,noatime 0 0" ?
[01:00] <celthunder> thetinyjesus: flesh life time technology
[01:00] <WoC> Yup
[01:00] <gisli> WoC: okay. Saw that other stuff (nosuid,nodev,noexec) in some tutorial
[01:00] <WoC> err
[01:01] <WoC> are you adding it to fstab or mounting manually ?
[01:01] <gisli> I'm adding it to fstab ;)
[01:02] <jeremiah_> Why am i not authorized in pidgin when i am the administrator?
[01:02] <gisli> WoC: I'm adding it to fstab ;)
[01:03] <rebe> Any way to automatically turn off PC when transmission finish downloading all torrents ?
[01:03] <WoC> ok, just making sure
[01:04] <gisli> WoC: why is it bad to use nosuid,nodev,noexec? Just curious
[01:04] <calwig> hi, Ive dl one of the ubuntu DVD distros. Ive got unetbootin. Ive tried installing it into the USB. Its not completed. Is there something else I should do_
[01:04] <WoC> so, just to clarisfy, the line should look something like; tmpfs                   /var/log                    tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[01:04] <calwig> ?
[01:04] <jeremiah_>  Why am i not authorized in pidgin when i am the administrator?
[01:04] <gisli> WoC: no I'm not mounting /var/log to tmpfs. I'm gonna have that on my hdd. /tmp and /var/tmp are going to tmpfs ;)
[01:04] <WoC> gisli i wouldnt add anything that im not sure of the consequences of
[01:05] <calwig> Its not completed as in, the distro is not completely written to the USB. unetbootin finishes in half a second writing to the USB. Ive downloaded 2 distros. USB is brand new.
[01:05] <WoC> ops
[01:05] <WoC> same thing though, just replace /var/log with the tmp path
[01:06] <gisli> WoC: /var/log would be something like: /home/gisli/data /var/log ext4 defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[01:07] <gisli> WoC: yeah but I want my logs available after restart ;)
[01:07] <WoC> ok, then you mount it using bind
[01:07] <gisli> WoC: hmmm bind...
[01:08] <WoC> as in mount /home/gisli/data /var/log -o bind
[01:08] <showtime> i installed ts3 on 11.04 and my microphone doesnt work ... what to do ?
[01:09] <WoC> gisli ok ?
[01:09] <gisli> WoC: oh okay...do I just do that now or straight after restart? And will I still have my old logs?
[01:10] <WoC> you can either edit that and add to fstab or just add as is to rc.local
[01:12] <WoC> once mounted /home/gisli/data will have the actuall logs, you might need to restart the syslog to have it log propperly after the mount
[01:13] <WoC> gisli you dont have to restart your computer, you may however need to send a HUP to syslog to have it logging in the new location
[01:14] <gisli> WoC: alright. just put "/home/gisli/.data/logs /var/log bind defaults,noatime,bind 0 0" in fstab and that's it?
[01:14] <gisli> that's very elegant
[01:15] <WoC> gisli try it, i never actually used bind option in fstab
[01:15] <dragancho> Do you guys know how can i give wine access only to C: folder?
[01:16] <sgqnwg> hello there.
[01:16] <gisli> WoC: I saw it here: http://nucleussystems.com/blog/mount-dir-bind
[01:16] <AfterDeath> !ops | sgqnwg using xchat exploits
[01:16] <WoC> gisli ah, ok :)
[01:17] <pangolin> sgqnwg: please stop.
[01:17] <WoC> thx gisli :)
[01:18] <WoC> bitchx-1.2c01-svn linux 3.2.4-wotans(wotans) cypress.1.0k stock
[01:18] <gisli> Woc: hehe all the thanks to you ;)
[01:18] <WoC> not a problem, any time
[01:19] <gisli> WoC: but I have to restart to "correct" the /tmp and /var/tmp mounts right?
[01:19] <WoC> i just never took the time to look up the fstab w bind option
[01:19] <WoC> gisli if you are using GUI, that would be the easy way
[01:22] <milothebuthar> How can I install libgcc_s ?
[01:23] <gisli> WoC: yeah, I'm using GUI :p I'll just add the /var/log mount to the fstab and then restart ;)
[01:24] <tiox> OMG
[01:24] <WoC> gisli :) higly recommended, imho
[01:24] <tiox> I just installed zsnes on Ubuntu without the need for hacking around the installing process. Problem is, the installation decided to remove all of my other gaming stuff and my screensaver.
[01:25] <tiox> DAMN YOU UBUNTU!
[01:25] <WoC> whats up tiox ?
[01:25] <tiox> Oh, wrong channel, lol... but you might help.
[01:26] <[[thufir]]> how do I disable the logout beep?   when the system boots, there's a beep for the login prompt.  not the beep after login.
[01:26] <tiox> I am slightly confused as to why I can't have love, electricsheep, mplayer, cutemupen and even the 3D rendering program blender along with zsnes without depends conflicts.
[01:26] <pp7> those things install for most people without a hitch
[01:27] <WoC> any specific conflict ?
[01:27] <tiox> Well, here's a list of packages it decided to remove.
[01:27] <tiox> blender cutemupen dosbox electricsheep gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse joystick libao-common libao-dev libao4 libdevil1c2 libmjpegtools-1.9 libsdl-net1.2 libsdl-sound1.2 libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio libsmpeg0 love mplayer mupen64plus mupen64plus-extraplugins ubuntu-desktop
[01:27] <tiox> That's apt doing that.
[01:28] <WoC> hmmm, having a look...
[01:28] <tiox> I think it's partially because I installed ZSNES a different way, using build-depends to kinda cheat around the 64-bit limitation.
[01:28] <tiox> Some stuff from medibuntu is in there too.
[01:29] <tiox> But here is the funny thing. zsnes worked without conflict issues when I did it the non-standard way. So why is it deciding to screw up now?
[01:31] <WoC> tiox have you done a 'apt-get update' lately ? I have both mplayer and blender installed and it didnt show any remove when i ran a simulation
[01:31] <gisli> WoC: I don't have to put
[01:32] <gisli> 'ext4' into that fstab line do I?
[01:32] <tiox> Interesting.
[01:32] <tiox> Yeah, I update every time I add a PPA.
[01:32] <WoC> gisli you shouldnt have to, no
[01:33] <gisli> WoC: alright...thanks for everything ;)
[01:33] <WoC> np gisli
[01:33] <tiox> I'll have to see where zsnes is coming from.
[01:33] <WoC> tiox try 'apt-get -s install zsnes mplayer blender' (simulated install) and see what it says
[01:34] <tiox> Well I reinstalled everything I removed. I'll do just zsnes once I do that.
[01:34] <tiox> finish that rather.
[01:35] <WoC> tiox that emulator any good ?
[01:36] <tiox> It's known for speed, not necessarily for authentic emulation.
[01:36] <WoC> ok, ty
[01:36] <guest_> can someone here possibly help me with an issue in ubuntu?
[01:36] <tiox> Last time ZSNES was updates, DSP4 support was added to run oddball titles like Top Gear 3000
[01:36] <tiox> Also, gere you go.http://paste.ubuntu.com/830846/
[01:36] <WoC> !ask!guest_
[01:37] <tiox> updated*
[01:37] <WoC> !ask|guest_
[01:37] <tiox> I could use bsnes, but knowing zsnes exists on Linux, it was my go-to on Windows.
[01:38] <WoC> k :)
[01:38] <WoC> heh
[01:39] <tiox> I might end up formatting my machine again for 12.04.
[01:39] <tiox> Then I'll have a fresh slate, once again, and lockmyself down to LTS updates only.
[01:40] <guest_> How do I get ubuntu to detect my wireless card on my presario c500? I have no way of conecting to the internet with ubuntu but i can bring files over from another computer.
[01:40] <WoC> tiox, im running the precise, w/o the kernel updates, i make my own, just takes ages on my slow box
[01:41] <Oer> tiox, 12.04 is not released yet, that is maybe why those packages get uninstalled
[01:41] <WoC> guest_ what kind of wifi card is it ?
[01:42] <Peddy> Where can I find documentation for manually adding to the "Recently Used" gnome open dialogue?
[01:42] <tiox> Hmmm.
[01:42] <guest_> My wireless card is a intel pro/wireless 3945abg
[01:42] <WoC> thanks Oer, i didnt even consider that one
[01:43] <WoC> guest_ ok, it should detect that
[01:44] <WoC> guest_ ok, im pretty sure i have that one myself on my laptop
[01:44] <guest_> Well WoC it isnt detecting it what should i do
[01:45] <Oer> Peddy edit the ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[01:46] <Peddy> Thanks Oer. For the record, I found documentation here: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/GtkRecentManager.html
[01:46] <open> I've just gotten a virtual image for 12.04 the alpha release. My question is: will it keep receiving updates normally -- that effectively, when the real release is out, I will effectively have had the updates anyway to not have to not get the new image?
[01:46] <bazhang> !final | open
[01:46] <Eruadan> Hello, i used ubuntu lucid as a server. Now i decided to install lucid also, in my local VM, so i have the same system. I installed already the lucid in the vm. Now i just want a basic view, as i want a file manager and a browser there. I decided to install openbox. I installed openbox with sudo  apt-get install openbox, i also updated the system, but i do not have a window after rebooting...I'm sure x was installed as a dependency, what am i missi
[01:46] <Eruadan> ng?
[01:46] <tiox> Yeah, I'll end up doing that. Pidgin's neat about using it with profiles away from homeso I can use it while I wait on the lengthy install procedure to finish.
[01:47] <WoC> guest_ i would try to load the module for it, atm i cant lookup which one it is but google might help
[01:47] <tiox> Or, is it preferable to not do anything as I may risk introducing entropy into the system install, thus messing it up somehow?
[01:47] <xangua> !pangolin | open
[01:48] <guest_> Ok thank you WoC
[01:48] <WoC> np guest_
[01:48] <open> alright, thanks. Why did I get the second !pangolin btw? :)
[01:48] <tiox> xangua: I was asking a general install procedure question.
[01:48] <pangolin> open: because questions about 12.04 should go to #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <tiox> I'm just afraid if I do too much, would entropy corrupt an install?
[01:49] <tiox> Owait nvm
[01:49] <Eruadan> i have lucid inside virtual box. I want a BASIC gui.what do i need other than install openbox?
[01:50] <vlt> Eruadan: lubuntu-desktop, for example
[01:50] <Eruadan> nope, iwant to set openbox in my lucid box
[01:50] <rebe> how do I make my pc automatically turn off when transmission finish download all torrents ?
[01:50] <xangua> then install what you want Eruadan
[01:50] <Eruadan> that's the thing, i installed already openbox
[01:51] <Eruadan> but nothing changed
[01:51] <Eruadan> it did installed x also
[01:52] <Peddy> Is there a "ctrl f" type find function in the man command?
[01:54] <Eruadan> what else do i need to install other than openbox to SEE things?
[01:54] <Eruadan> i don't want all those other things
[01:54] <Eruadan> i just want to see the windows
[01:56] <xangua> Eruadan: did you install a login manager? started it? there are several guides
[01:57] <guest_> Another question, what should i be googling exactly WoC? im not exactly a computer genius
[01:57] <negueba> guys, how can i report a bug?
[01:57] <Eruadan> no, i didn't installed a login manager, that is important
[01:57] <negueba> do i have to own an launchpad account?
[01:58] <pp7> Peddy, use "/"
[01:58] <Peddy> pp7, thanks!
[01:58] <Eruadan> xangua, after installing a login manager, should i be able to see my openbox enviroment?
[02:01] <guest_> How do i install ndiswrapper
[02:02] <Eruadan> how do install slim login manager? sudo apt-get install slim ?
[02:03] <xangua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems  Eruadan
[02:03] <Eruadan> k, ty
[02:05] <Jimmy__> Out of curiosity, is Ubuntu more battery-efficient vs Windows 7?
[02:07] <mjwalf> anyone here using oracle vm to boot ubuntu?
[02:07] <mufasa> having problems with gnome in 11.10..after i installed and logged out..i logged into gnome and the top bar is yellow and the fonts are messed up
[02:08] <mufasa> umm..that was only half my message lol
[02:08] <xangua> Jimmy__: latest version no because a kernel issue, it's supposed to be fixed on 12.04
[02:08] <Eruadan> rofl, I didn't have xorg installed! omg, someone told me that with apt-get openbox, i would get all the rest, as dependencies, omg...ty for the link ^^
[02:08] <holstein> Jimmy__: i would say, out-of-the-box.. no... likely much less depending on your hardware... with certain hardware it could be much better
[02:08] <xangua> guest_: it's on the ubuntu cd/usb, you can enable the cd from sources
[02:08] <Eruadan> xangua++
[02:08] <mufasa> i installed gnome and when i logged in to gnome the top bar is yellow and fonts are messed up
[02:08] <Jimmy__> I was planning to dual boot after the next LTS is released.
[02:09] <relissa> I have mounted my harddrive and want to copy my mysql database files over to the computer i mounted it on, how ever i can't find /var/lib/mysql where else would mysql files be?
[02:09] <guest_> how do i do that  xangua?
[02:09] <Jimmy__> So when 12.04 is out, battery life should be ______ compared to Windows 7?
[02:10] <xangua> guest_: if you have an ubuntu cd, put it, go to software sources and mark it as source
[02:10] <xangua> Software center - Edit - Sources*
[02:10] <helo1> how can I get the output of the date command into a variable in a script
[02:11] <mufasa> can anyone help with gnome install problem?
[02:12] <holstein> mufasa: thats a config issue i say... you can make a new user, and log in with that account and confirm that.. or you can try reinstalling gnome...
[02:12] <mufasa> all config is defualt..just installed
[02:12] <mufasa> first thing i did was installed gnome
[02:12] <holstein> mufasa: OK
[02:15] <mufasa> just curious...does it have to be gnome 3..can in install gnome 2 instead?
[02:15] <Eruadan> xangua, folllowing the tutorial you gave me, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI , i installed everything, but there's no login manager in here,only xauth,xorg and openbox. why i still cannot see any "window" ?do i still need a login manager?maybe slim?
[02:15] <holstein> mufasa: depends.. if you are 11.10 and above, i believe thats gnome3 in the repos
[02:15] <xangua> Eruadan: xtartx i believe
[02:15] <mufasa> yes it is 11.10
[02:15] <xangua> startx *** sorry
[02:15] <Eruadan> ahh
[02:16] <Eruadan> i see, i need to start x
[02:16] <holstein> mufasa: you cant have both.. you can install what ubuntu has always provided, which is the most current version of gnome at release time
[02:16] <holstein> mufasa: i think most find XFCE to be arguably the most like gnome2
[02:17] <mufasa> what is xfce?
[02:17] <Eruadan> great, i started x
[02:17] <Eruadan> and it works ^^
[02:17] <holstein> mufasa: another desktop environment.. http://www.xfce.org/ .. xubuntu is ubuntu + XFCE
[02:17] <Eruadan> thanks again xangua
[02:18] <xangua> Eruadan: thanks to the ubuntu documentation
[02:18] <mufasa> oh ok
[02:18] <mufasa> thanks for the info
[02:18] <Eruadan> yes, and thanks to you to point it out ^^
[02:18] <Eruadan> actually , the second link you gave me is very outdated
[02:19] <Eruadan> the first one is fine
[02:19] <Eruadan> nice, now i got my x server, with nothing in there,just the way i wanted
[02:24] <Eruadan> xangua, just 1 more question, if you don't mind.Let's say i install a login manager, will xserver start automatically after i login, instead of inserting startx?
[02:25] <Lesterwood> >latest updates
[02:25] <Lesterwood> >41 megabytes
[02:25] <Lesterwood> CANOICAAAAAALLLL
[02:27] <holstein> Eruadan: i would expect to be logged into a session.. a desktop.. otherwise, it would be just a TTY or a terminal window
[02:28] <y2E0> I have to overwrite bash cancel shortcut (cmd+c) because I changed my gui terminal to use this (to make copy n paste) consistent.
[02:29] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. I want to install the drivers for a printer i've got. Do I have to install both CUPS & LPR drivers? What do CUPS & LPR mean? TIA
[02:29] <Bobenhaus> anyone running android x86?
[02:29] <y2E0> what's android x86?
[02:29] <xangua> !ot | Bobenhaus
[02:29] <Bobenhaus> tablet os
[02:30] <ritz> Bobenhaus, Using Ubuntu on weTab
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: nice
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: I'd like to try the tablet version of ubuntu on my tablet
[02:31] <ritz> Bobenhaus, which tablet is this ?
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> Xoom
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: xoom
[02:32] <indio> Hi. What's the commandline to update Ubuntu like Update manager does?
[02:32] <Bobenhaus> Ritz: I've read somwhere that ubutnu is bringing out a tablet this year or next
[02:32] <xangua> indio: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <y2E0> @Bobenhaus: try #android-x86
[02:33] <ritz> Bobenhaus, no clue, but quick google says http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
[02:33] <y2E0> http://www.android-x86.org/contact
[02:33] <Bobenhaus> ok thanks
[02:33] <indio> xangua: Thanks.
[02:33] <Bobenhaus> brb
[02:33] <ritz> Bobenhaus, hmm, uses chroot, not the best option, imho
[02:35] <prabuvathur> hello all. i am prabuvathur, from indonesia.
[02:37] <y2E0> welcome!
[02:42] <riex> Hello, do somebody know a guide for compile a another kernel for ubuntu 11.10? :)
[02:43] <allenyk> exit
[02:43] <is_null> hello everybody
[02:44] <is_null> i am random
[02:44] <is_null> any ubuntu dev out there ?
[02:44] <irbda> riex: there is a guide for building a linux system from scratch, namely lfs
[02:44] <michaeljones> I am
[02:44] <celltech> 11.04 had edit capabilities in image viewer. How come 11.10 doesn't?
[02:44] <michaeljones> an ubuntu developear
[02:44] <is_null> i want to say i love you os ( i am gentoo/arch ist-)
[02:45] <riexstar> irbda: can you tell me where? :p
[02:45] <werxxx> im tired
[02:45] <is_null> but, for fuch s*ke am i the only one using ubutu /
[02:45] <xangua> !ot | is_null
[02:45] <irbda> irexstar: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[02:47] <is_null> xangua: come on
[02:47] <is_null> i understand rtfm, stfw, etc, when justified
[02:48] <y2E0> whenever I start kde's terminal I'd like to have the command "stty intr \^k" executed.
[02:48] <y2E0> (or write it in an according settings file which I haven't found yet)
[02:48] <y2E0> any idea for that?
[02:50] <is_null> i wonder, is there any user ? network manager is crazy with sim card for example, i've been hoping for fix for months
[02:50] <is_null> but that's not all, systray is a pain, i click "keyboard systray icon" it opens calendar
[02:51] <is_null> i'm really not a troll ask me for as much debug info as you need i will do the effort
[02:52] <is_null> ahi que fem
[02:55] <ritz> y2E0, stick it into bashrc ?
[02:55] <ritz> assuming you are using bash shell
[02:55] <ritz> is_null, heya
[02:56] <ritz> is_null, screenshots /video to help me understand the issue better ?
[02:57] <ritz> y2E0, also, enable login shell option in  konsole
[03:00] <Sach> my laptop plug came out while i had a tomboy note open. I rebooted, and now that note is gone! help please? :s
[03:00] <Bobenhaus> I think the ubuntu 64x link on the website is just a live cd version.  I've already burned 3 cd's and all of them have just booted to live cd without any options to install it
[03:01] <WoC> y2E0 you used kermit alot ?
[03:01] <jrib> Bobenhaus: in the live environment, there is an install option
[03:01] <Bobenhaus> jrib. I see icon on the desktop to install but it never doesn anything
[03:01] <jrib> Bobenhaus: have you run "check the cd for defects" yet?
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> they burn successful
[03:02] <jrib> Bobenhaus: this is not my question
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> jrib: how do you check for defects?
[03:02] <y2E0> WoC: hm what's kermit?
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> Jrib: I've burned fedora 32/64 without any issues
[03:03] <WoC> y2E0 in kermit, you use ^k to abort ;) i was just curios as that is really old ;)
[03:03] <Bobenhaus> maybe my burner is going out?
[03:03] <y2E0> ah, well nope :) I just wanted to make c'n'p consistent through all my system :)
[03:04] <Bobenhaus> brb
[03:04] <y2E0> so i had to remap bash's abort command
[03:04] <WoC> y2E0 ah, ok. :) Neat
[03:04] <ryankey> Bobenhaus: I sometimes have trouble when I burn at max speed (Also, just generally do it half to keep my burner healthy)
[03:04] <y2E0> i started to work on android. It's so beautiful i really want to tweak my ubuntu as well =)
[03:05] <WoC> y2E0 i prolly get one of them in August or so
[03:06] <Sach> my laptop plug came out while i had a tomboy note open. I rebooted, and now that note is gone! help please? :s
[03:07] <y2E0> ritz: .bashrc did the trick for me. thanks a lot!
[03:07] <ritz> y2E0, np :)
[03:08] <y2E0> yap WoC if you're lucky there will be more devices running on 4.0
[03:08] <showtime> bob do you use fedora ?
[03:08] <ritz> Sach, tough luck, try looking through ~/.local/share/tomboy ?
[03:08] <ritz> Sach, do you use Ubuntu One service ?
[03:08] <y2E0> make sure yours will be updated! they really got great magic in there. e.g. it may host usb devices (like cameras)
[03:09] <ritz> showtime,  I do have a fedora box
[03:09] <Sach> ritz, i'm looking in that folder, but how do I open the .not files?  My Tomboy is also not opening when I try to do so.
[03:09] <Sach> Ritz, no, I don't use Ubuntu One.
[03:09] <ritz> Sach, with gedit or any text editor
[03:10] <ritz> Sach, personally, backup and backups or backup
[03:10] <showtime> hm maybe i give fedora a try too soon
[03:10] <alkopop79> hi fellaz
[03:10] <alkopop79> i wonder if you could help me
[03:11] <showtime> but gentoo would be so much more fun ^^ but it takes so much time 8(
[03:11] <alkopop79> i've been trying to install Xilinx's Webpack on 32-bit ubuntu
[03:11] <alkopop79> I managed to untar it
[03:11] <alkopop79> and run the install file called xsetup
[03:12] <alkopop79> but during the install I get the following message:
[03:12] <alkopop79> "Error was encountered while extracting archive /home/alkopop79/Documents/Xilinx/Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_13.4_O.87xd.3.0/idata/planahead_0009.zip.xz" Please correct this and then select Retry
[03:12] <ritz> alkopop79,  is that all ?
[03:12] <alkopop79> needless to say, i logged in as admin
[03:12] <alkopop79> and started the install with sudo
[03:12] <ritz> anything logged to terminal ?
[03:13] <alkopop79> that's all
[03:13] <alkopop79> nothing on the terminal
[03:13] <alkopop79> the installer is a graphical app
[03:13] <alkopop79> with window
[03:14] <felchg> help
[03:14] <alkopop79> there's a screenshot I can share
[03:14] <alkopop79> if it helps
[03:14] <alkopop79> does that mean that I don't have permission to install files to that particular folder?
[03:14] <ritz> alkopop79, lets see , but insufficient information
[03:15] <ritz> alkopop79, check the md5 sig of the download ?
[03:15] <ritz> felipe_, with ?
[03:15] <alkopop79> how?
[03:15] <alkopop79> terribly sorry, i have not much experience with linux
[03:16] <ryankey> felipe? You mean felchg ritz?
[03:16] <ritz> alkopop79, did the Xilinx publisher provide any md5/sha1 signature for the download ?
[03:16] <alkopop79> not sure
[03:16] <alkopop79> how can i check that?
[03:16] <ritz> ryankey,  my bad
[03:17] <ritz> autocomplete !
[03:17] <ritz> felipe_, typo there :)
[03:18] <alkopop79> hoc can i check the signature, ritz?
[03:18] <irbda> alkopop79: md5sum
[03:19] <ritz> alkopop79, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:19] <Eruadan> but actualyy, after using a bit lxdm core, i don't find it so bad, it's quite light weight actually
[03:19] <Eruadan> lxde*
[03:19] <Sach> is it possible to open a tomboy notes that gives this message: Unexpected error: Error opening file: Input/output error
[03:20] <ryankey> alkopop79, if you're confused on where to find the md5 signatures, they are underneath the download links of the xilinx site
[03:20] <alkopop79> thanks!
[03:20] <WoC> Sach what did you us to open the note ?
[03:20] <alkopop79> yepp,there they are!
[03:21] <alkopop79> so basically I just have to check this number against the output on the terminal
[03:21] <quixotedon> Sach: i haven't experience it as far as i can recall
[03:21] <Sach> alkopop79, well, this particular note is no longer showing when i open tomboy, so i tried opening it in the .local folder with gedit.
[03:22] <riyonuk> Does anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu of my MacBook Pro?
[03:22] <WoC> sach, try open a terminal and see if you can open it using less
[03:22] <irbda> riyonuk: using rEFIx
[03:22] <Sach> WoC, can you please explain how I ddo that?
[03:22] <yanick_> hi, I'm using calc (the command line calculator) often from a terminal and I was wondering if PI was predefined in the application?
[03:22] <aBound> riyonuk, How long as it's running the Intel architecture and not the PowerPC arch.
[03:22] <riyonuk> Yeah, but I read that my model isn't supported. That the EFI changed?
[03:23] <WoC> Sach ctl-alt-T will open a terminal
[03:23] <Sach> WoC, yes, but what do you mean by "open it using less" ?
[03:24] <WoC> Sach type; less [filename]
[03:24] <alkopop79> riyonuk, use vmware
[03:24] <alkopop79> it's not free
[03:24] <riyonuk> I don't want to :(
[03:24] <irbda> riyonuk: how about using bootcamp
[03:24] <alkopop79> but much better then virtualbox
[03:24] <riyonuk> Only works with Windows?
[03:24] <alkopop79> dunno
[03:24] <alkopop79> i just like the idea of having linux in a separate window
[03:24] <alkopop79> try it
[03:24] <alkopop79> vmware fusion
[03:25] <irbda> riyonuk: they call it Windows partition, actually you can install linux too
[03:25] <Sach> WoC -- Input/output error
[03:25] <ritz> Eruadan, I found it lacking in few features
[03:25] <ritz> Sach, doubtful , you might need to run fsck on system
[03:25] <WoC> Sach looks like you found a bad block on your media
[03:26] <ritz> WoC,  or a corrupted block
[03:26] <WoC> ritz yup
[03:26] <Eruadan> ritz, what is lacking features?
[03:26] <ritz> Sach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[03:27] <Eruadan> ahh, lxde
[03:27] <ritz> Sach, ignore this, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[03:27] <ritz> Eruadan,  I found it better to stick with Unity/gnome-shell
[03:27] <Eruadan> ritz, what is the command to install LXTerminal ?
[03:27] <Sach> Ritz, will do.
[03:27] <ritz> Eruadan, to multimedia keybindings work in lxde ?
[03:28] <Eruadan> ritz, i'm in a VM, i need a light system
[03:28] <WoC> Eruadan apt-get install lxterminal
[03:28] <Eruadan> not much graphic cards here
[03:28] <Eruadan> ok
[03:28] <ritz> Eruadan, openbox/icewm ?
[03:29] <alkopop79> i did an md5sum
[03:29] <researcher123> the Red Light indicating SYSTEM BUSY keeps glowing quite long.Since this day my pc slowed down.It was much faster earlier.HELP
[03:29] <alkopop79> and got nothing
[03:29] <alkopop79> how's that possible?
[03:30] <alkopop79> hah
[03:30] <WoC> Eruadan WindowMaker ?
[03:30] <alkopop79> just finished
[03:30] <alkopop79> sorry
[03:30] <alkopop79> got the number
[03:30] <FloodBot1> alkopop79: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <Eruadan> yes, i'm making my system ^^
[03:30] <WoC> Eruadan it was my suggestion as for a slim gui
[03:31] <Eruadan> ahh, ok
[03:31] <ritz> researcher123, system busy ? or hard drive busy ?
[03:31] <alkopop79> so, checked the md5sum output and the number found on the Xilinx website and they are identical
[03:32] <Eruadan> WoC, how can i exit the nice lxde desktop and enter the command line?i do not have a cli now
[03:33] <WoC> Eruadan i wish i know too, but try ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:33] <Eruadan> i had the openbox cli, but when i installed lxdm, it installed also lxde desktop, and the cli is gone
[03:33] <DarkStar> hello
[03:33] <Eruadan> WoC, i got it
[03:33] <alkopop79> this is the error I get when installing:
[03:34] <alkopop79> http://paste.ubuntu.com/830921/
[03:34] <DarkStar> installed ms xp then ubuntu 11.04 ontop and now no boot, error says : Grub: no such partition
[03:34] <Sach> Ritz, do you know how to run fsck on a reboot?  The commands on the url you suggested are not working for me.
[03:34] <DarkStar> anyone know an easy fix ?
[03:34] <Eruadan> when i did sudo apt-get install lxdm, it installed everything...what a pita, including gnome stuff o.O.I just wanted a login manger...
[03:34] <Eruadan> display manager*
[03:34] <quixotedon> DarkStar: what do you mean with easy fix?
[03:35] <DarkStar> that doesnt take a ton of repartitioning ect
[03:35] <guest1201> OK. So I have installed ubuntu on my Presario c500. After it has finished it wasnt detecting my wireless card. So i have no way of connecting to the internet from that computer to update and get the drivers. I can however connect to my desktop and download files and bring them over to my laptop via flashdrive. I dont know how to tell what kind of flashdrive i have and i dont know how to install anything using ubuntu, im pretty new w
[03:35] <DarkStar> i grabbed a program called boot repair but no help yet
[03:35] <ritz> Sach, " sudo touch /forcefsck"
[03:35] <Nerdus> Hello all, have a great week
[03:35] <DarkStar> i fired off fixmbr and fixboot off the xp rescue and am running on 11.04 rescure disk atm
[03:36] <guest1201> anyone that has any ideas on what i could do, in depth explanation would be much appreciated
[03:36] <quixotedon> flashdrive is plug n play as well with ubuntu
[03:36] <ritz> alkopop79, does xsetup have any options ?
[03:36] <DarkStar> i guess its due to this laptop or craptops bios limitations, no substatial updates available atm
[03:36] <ritz> alkopop79,  when run from cli ?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: what's your issue. I just breezed in..
[03:37] <WoC> thx Nerdus & u 2 :)
[03:37] <DarkStar> i thought about building a start disk cd maybe to just boot off to start it since im having these mbr er boot issues ?
[03:37] <Eruadan> great, i got lxterminal, ty
[03:38] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: I cant get ubuntu to pick up any wifi networks on my presario c500.
[03:38] <DarkStar> kind of ghetto but i figured it might work or now
[03:38] <DarkStar> action did you try different generic wifi drivers ?
[03:38] <quixotedon> guest1201: do you know the manufacturer of your wifi hardware?
[03:38] <DarkStar> or is that not the problem
[03:38] <quixotedon> guest1201: try generic driver of wifi
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: what wifi chip do you use?
[03:39] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: I dont know how to check with ubuntu.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sudo lshw =C network      what is the product line of the wifi?
[03:40] <DarkStar> man ubuntu really has pushed things along compaired to just a few years ago
[03:40] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: give me a sec to type that in
[03:40] <DarkStar> it really is getting amazing
[03:40] <DarkStar> i think its going to take over soon
[03:40] <DarkStar> its so incredible
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: it was pretty fast before :)
[03:40] <DarkStar> and actually works most of the time
[03:40] <DarkStar> im talking ease of use ect
[03:40] <Eruadan> what is so amazing????
[03:40] <DarkStar> and cost
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: its always been easy here... and its always been free
[03:40] <DarkStar> compaired to the other 2 possible os's you could probably go with
[03:41] <DarkStar> im having issues with booting but this laptop is ancient
[03:41] <Eruadan> fuck yeah!ubuntu is the only decent distro around
[03:41] <DarkStar> well i still like other distros
[03:41] <DarkStar> but this one is really getting impressive as far as linux goes
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: I can name 3
[03:41] <quixotedon> man ubuntu?? what's that?
[03:42] <quixotedon> DarkStar: explain please, mister.. :)
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: you forgot haiku
[03:42] <DarkStar> from what i know people use either windows, osx or ubuntu
[03:42] <DarkStar> for the most part
[03:42] <DarkStar> the mainstream populous
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: s/ubuntu/linux
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: other distros exist dude
[03:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: s/linux/gnu\/linux/ :p
[03:42] <DarkStar> ive used several
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: indeed
[03:43] <DarkStar> just saying mainstream iphone junkies
[03:43] <Eruadan> lxde is lovelly for my shity lappy,inside the  virtual box
[03:43] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: what other distros do you think is most likely to be used?? fedora? openSuse?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: hiku exists and has an active community. It was formally BeOS
[03:43] <DarkStar> i spent 20 years on irc and bbs and have agorophobia so ive used a few distros in that time lol
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: whichever the user deems fit for their needs
[03:44] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: haiku is quite a name, I think I once read about it somewhere
[03:44] <DarkStar> i liked slack, freebsd & redhat but ubuntu is gaining ground as all around great stuff for me
[03:44] <Eruadan> the only distro i could use other than ubuntu, is archlinux, but arch, is really about manual configs, and i don't have the time for that, but i would love to see ubuntu team picking up the good things about arch
[03:44] <WoC> BeOS was pretty neat :)
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: I started on Mandrake and Gentoo. Great days
[03:44] <MK`> I was told Nautilus can be used with an SVN, how can I do this?
[03:44] <quixotedon> DarkStar: despite the success, many don't like the change to unity though
[03:45] <irbda> DarkStar: archlinux is quite good too. I agree with you, ubuntu is very *user-friendly* and it is good for a lazy man like me.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: you don't have to use unity...
[03:45] <DarkStar> i havent had decent enough hardware to see that yet
[03:45] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: aaah, mandrake!!! i like that... the first install at my univ though, and also the knoppix that i hung around with :)
[03:45] <Eruadan> it's not only about lazy dude, if you write code, you DON'T have the time to manually setup things...imho, arch, is for doesn't have nothing else to do
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: xpud gets use a lot here too. its snappy
[03:46] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: C556CA: 802.11b/g WLAN
[03:46] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: im not sure if i found the name of that correctly. im not the best when it comes to using the terminal yet
[03:46] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: and i can't find the reason why people don't like unity, because for a newbie like me, it's just something better than the other two famous OS
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: ok, can you give a pastebin of the output of: lspci; lsusb; cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: you don't have to use it, people don't like many parts of their OS (I always strip out Firefox), and its all changable
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: You can install xfce4 and use XFCE, there is no unity (by default) in XFCE
[03:48] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: not really a paste, ill have to type everything up, im on two seperate computers so give me a sec :)
[03:48] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: i have an old pc using pentium 2 back at 'to be thrown away stuff' compartment, any idea on resurrecting it using ubuntu?
[03:48] <MK`> I was told Nautilus can be used with an SVN, how can I do this? Is it integrated or do I need to install a plugin? Which do you guys recommend?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: its gonna be a lot, just grab the lines that relate to the wifi
[03:49] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: or maybe other distros?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: Lubuntu maybe, or puppy, slitaz, tinycore, puppy
[03:49] <quixotedon> hmm, quite interesting to try :)
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> MK`: http://code.google.com/p/nautilussvn/   seems to be rabbitvcs now
[03:50] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: would it be the network controller?
[03:50] <Jeremy3D> Having trouble connecting to wifi with Ubuntu 10.04. Can anyone give me a hand?
[03:51] <Jeremy3D> it just keeps searching and asking for the password, which I have correct, but never connects
[03:51] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: have you ever succeeded doing so?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: yes
[03:51] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, not on more wireless networks (home, my parents house, etc) but i can connect to one at a mcdonalds. lol
[03:51] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: what's the message?
[03:52] <Jeremy3D> When I look under the options "Available to all users" isn't checked, so I check it but nothing
[03:52] <zykotick9> MK`: i've certainly never used it, but does ubuntu have "rabbitvcs-nautilus - Nautilus extension for RabbitVCS"?
[03:52] <MK`> Yes, I am going to try it now zykotick9
[03:52] <zykotick9> MK`: sorry VCS vs SVN
[03:52] <guest1201> ActionParsnip:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) and thank you so much for the help
[03:52] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, there's no message, the little Antennae thing in the top right corner just keeps going on
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> MK`: I don't use it. I just web searched. Call me old fashioned...
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | guest1201
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: those are cheap and everywhere. If you get a wired link it will make your life a TONNE easier but it can be done offline
[03:53] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, i notice when I check the options on my laptop versus my desktop (the laptop is the one not connecting), there's no Device MAC Address. but there is one listed on my desktop settings
[03:54] <willmill> 恩，mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth ……这问题怎么解决？解决经历 ：http://computerscience.blog.163.com/blog/static/174962343201203094828179/ 目前还没解决掉。
[03:54] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: i have no experience with 10.04, first time using 10.10  til 11.10 now, but i think you should check your wifi hardware
[03:54] <__h__> ?DCC SEND 'STARTKEYLOGGER' 0 0 0
[03:54] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[03:54] <BPower> Hey all. Can anyone point me in the right direction for this? I want to set up a user that only has access to their own home dir and absolutely nothing else.
[03:54] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: im using a hotspot at an apartment complex. so i have to move downloaded files to my laptop via usb port. is this still possible?
[03:54] <irbda> willmill: 用英文吧! use eng pls!
[03:54] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, i dont think it's the hardware cause I know i can connect at a mcdonalds wifi with no problem.
[03:54] <willmill> sorry wrong room
[03:54] <Jeremy3D> maybe I'm not signing in as admin or something.  anyone else know?
[03:55] <quixotedon> guest1201: it's still possible
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: the install CD can be used to install packages from so you can do it all offline, its just a little harder. The guide shows you what to do. If you can get a wired link you will simply be offeredf the driver
[03:55] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: try signing as an admin
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: run:  sudo lshw -C network    what is the product line of the device?
[03:55] <Jeremy3D> not sure how. as far as I know there's only one username to sign on in this computer. i'll check though...
[03:56] <quixotedon> guest1201: yeah! i also came up to a suggestion of using wired link first.. :)
[03:56] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, i'll have to look it up, it's a Dell Latitude d500
[03:56] <guest1201> quixotedon: ActionParsnip : The wired link is not an option im afraid ):
[03:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, PCI (sysfs)
[03:57] <bc81> hellooo again.  i'm trying to sort out some trouble with permissions when mounting an ext3 formatted USB drive connected to a WDTV Live.  it's my understanding that the share used samba, so is accessing it with cifs causing the permission issues?
[03:57] <quixotedon> guest1201: then, try the cd installation or the flash disk option
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: give it time, your pci bus is slow
[03:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, ok it's up. what do you want to know?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: the product line, just like i said earlier
[03:58] <bc81> or is there some special mount command to make it work with full read/write capabilities?
[03:58] <guest1201> quixotedon: by cd installation, youre refering to the flashdrive/cd i used to install ubuntu 11.10 right?
[03:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, oh I see it now : PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adadpter
[03:58] <Julie_> hi
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: ok now you know your wireless chip, you can use that to find guides
[03:58] <Julie_> sorry for my bad english
[03:58] <Julie_> but help
[03:58] <WoC> There used to be a set of tools for using gcc in a cluster like environment, so you could utilize several computers while making your project; such as a kernel compile for a slow computer, does anyone know what it was/is called ?
[03:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, very cool.  I'll check do some research
[03:58] <Julie_> I did cut paste on an usb stick and both are missing
[03:59] <Julie_> on home and on stick
[03:59] <Julie_> :(
[03:59] <Julie_> i'm a noobette with ubuntu
[03:59] <Eruadan> how do i install kate text editior?
[03:59] <Eruadan> apt-get install kate?
[03:59] <WoC> Eruadan yes
[03:59] <quixotedon> Julie_: try it with another file, does it happen again?
[03:59] <Julie_> I did try foremodt
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> Eruadan: prefix with sudo
[04:00] <Eruadan> sure, sudo
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Eruadan: its an admin task, so needs sudo
[04:00] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, how do I know for sure if I am logged in as Administrator to Ubuntu?  There's only one login and I'm guessing it's Admin but it's named jeremy
[04:00] <Julie_> quixotedon: i cant open my usb stick on ubuntu
[04:00] <Bruce> does anyone know how to fix a tomboy note that wont open?
[04:00] <Julie_> but on w$
[04:00] <WoC> !sudo|Jeremy3D
[04:01] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: check user account
[04:01] <vjacob> anyone here find an alternative to Evernote other than NixNote?
[04:01] <Julie_> how do i try to recover my lost file :( :( :( :( :(
[04:01] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: ok so i clicked on oneiric 11.10, do i click the network tab next?
[04:02] <Tynach> Hi, in Unity 2D, my settings have gotten screwed up. I only have one virtual desktop - how do I change this?
[04:02] <Tynach> Using 11.10 here.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: read the guide.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: and under gereneral you can set the desktop size
[04:03] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, this is Unity 2D, not Unity.
[04:03] <Tynach> Unity is a compiz plugin, and thus has it's settings controlled through Compiz.
[04:03] <Tynach> However, Unity 2D is not.
[04:04] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, I was hoping to find some setting in either gconf or dconf, but I've not found it thus far.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: i believe it uses the same config in parts, worth trying
[04:06] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, I just tried. Desktop config in Compiz is 2x2, with 4 total.
[04:06] <Tynach> No change in behavior.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: gah
[04:07] <Tynach> Is multiple desktops handled by Metacity in Unity 2D?
[04:07] <Tynach> Or is it handled by the QT thingy they did?
[04:09] <Tynach> Ok, fixed it.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: there used to be an app on the panel to manage it. Not sure how its handled in Unity
[04:10] <zykotick9> Tynach: nautilus actually managed the desktop
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: what was the magic bullet?
[04:10] <zykotick9> Tynach: SORRY i'm not sure that's try in unity!!
[04:10] <Tynach> I found a key for "num_workspaces" in "/apps/metacity/general" using gconf-editor.
[04:10] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: Its telling me to download drivers from maverick for ubuntu 11.10 im really lost haha
[04:10] <Tynach> And that worked.
[04:10] <BPower> How can I create an sftp user that has access only to a specific dir and not anything else?
[04:11] <Tynach> So, ActionParsnip, zykotick9, it seems Metacity holds the number of desktops setting.
[04:11] <Tynach> See ya later!
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: strange
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: glad you got the gold
[04:11] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, it's not strange really. It's the window manager, controls where windows on the desktop go - you can put windows on different desktops, so it makes sense for it to control it. I just skipped over that key before because it was labeled 'workspaces' instead of 'desktops'.
[04:12] <Tynach> Later, all!
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> BPower: it will get the access like a local user on the system, so you can give it access via the standard linux groups
[04:13] <Bruce> does anyone know how to fix a tomboy note that wont open?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Bruce: can you delete it?
[04:14] <konam> which grep command can i use to search for a especific string of characters in all files of a directory?
[04:14] <Bruce> actionParsnip, no I need it.  Problem started when I was typing the note, then had a power failure for 5 mins.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> konam: grep -i -r string /path/to/search
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> konam: sorry, -R   capital
[04:17] <irbda> Bruce: how about this http://askubuntu.com/questions/27088/tomboy-wont-start. Maybe google it is better. Someone said "Yep, that worked!" in the link
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> konam: if there is a lot of data to search, it will take a long time
[04:18] <Al_nz1> anyone able to help me? after a reboot I am stuck at initramfs prompt!
[04:18] <konam> ActionParsnip so i see
[04:18] <Al_nz1> hey ActionParsnip
[04:18] <konam> ActionParsnip thanks, it really helps
[04:19] <konam> ActionParsnip it seems to have worked with lowercase -r
[04:19] <Jeremy3D> i've been searching for an answer with no luck. can anyone else gimme a hand connectina  Dell Latitude d500 wirelessly on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> konam: -R, -r, --recursive
[04:20] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> konam: seems both are ok ;)
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: what is the wireless chip please
[04:21] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adadpter
[04:21] <konam> there are a lot of files to be searched... at this rate maybe tomorrow i will be getting an answer :(
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: thanks (my client holds few lines)
[04:22] <Al_nz1> What you been up to ActionParsnip?>
[04:22] <DrPainz> exit
[04:22] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, it's ok. i saw some posts but nothing they are talking about seems to be working on my end
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you run:  sudo rfkill list   is it blocked in any way?
[04:22] <Jeremy3D> no on both
[04:23] <DrPainz> hello
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: ok do you have a switch or shortcut to enable / disable wifi?
[04:24] <DrPainz> I'm new to Ubuntu, just installed it yesterday and I am trying to get used to it
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: Fn+F2
[04:24] <Jeremy3D> when I click on the network icon in the top right hand corner, I can enable and disable wireless
[04:25] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, yea that does the same thing. it's on
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see access points?
[04:25] <Sach> how do i edit the permissions of a file to 'read and write'? It doesn't let me. Can i do so as sudo?
[04:26] <DrPainz> does anyone have an excellent online tutorial/website to get the most out of ubuntu?  I really don't know where to start, especially in the terminal
[04:26] <DrPainz> like I don't know what the commands mean (i.e. sudo, etc)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: i suggest you just use the OS, you'll learn just like you learned windows
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> !manual | DrPainz there is this
[04:27] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip,  lo Interface doesn't support scanning.  eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.  eth1 Scan completed: Home (which is my access point)
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: I wouldn't get bogged down with what commands mean til you use/need them
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: bingo, your wifi is picking up as eth1, network manager expects wlan0
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: get a wired connection, install wicd and uninstall network manager then reboot
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: the driver is working or you wouldn't see the SSID :)
[04:28] <Sach> how do i edit the permissions of a file to 'read and write'? It doesn't let me. Can i do so as sudo?
[04:28] <DrPainz> well, I'm an advanced user with windows, know Mac somewhat... but wanted to familiarize myself with linux stuff, since I'd like to be a network director somedays and found out linux is best for running networks and stuff
[04:28] <irbda> DrPainz: Don't miss the "Ubuntu Software Center" to install any programs you are interested. :-)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Sach: if you want write access run:  gksudo gedit filename    for a text file (for example)
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, sweet. do you have info on installing wicd
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: 'advanced user'? Do you manage data centres and such?
[04:29] <Al_nz1> errm: http://pastebin.com/vhvT2vja - help pls
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> nevermind found it
[04:29] <Sach> ActionPArsnip, so the location of the file doesnt matter for that command?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: use software centre
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> k
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Sach: yes, you type the full path, or if the terminal is in the same folder you can just name it
[04:30] <DrPainz> I'm not sure what you mean ActionParsnip
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: just curious of your 'advanced user' of windows claim..
[04:31] <numpy> been a while since I have used ATI cards.. is the fglrx driver stable now?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: wicd is a lot more flexible than network manager, so you can tell it to use eth1 as wifi and it will happen
[04:31] <DrPainz> ehh... I'm just really awesome with Windows is all I meant haha
[04:32] <DrPainz> I'm the guy a lot of people turn to when they have a computer or network problem in this area
[04:32] <irbda> ActionParsnip: I'm an advanced windows user too from the period of win3.1 to win2k  :D
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: probably desktop, if you saw what we do where I work you'd think twice ;)
[04:32] <DrPainz> what did you mean by data centres?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: huge building with racks of servers all working together
[04:33] <DrPainz> oh when I was in college we've had projects like that.  I did assist in the building of a mini-supercomputer, consisted of like like 5 or 10 computers in a small room
[04:34] <drommy> Hi on boot i get hung up on the purple boot screen and in the log it says something along the lines of "pulse audio saned"? Could someone please help me?
[04:34] <drommy> im using latest ubuntu from usb
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: as you use the ubuntu OS you will learn, just get used to how things work for now then start trying to configure services and such and you will learn more
[04:34] <drommy> liveos
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> drommy: what GPU do you use?
[04:35] <drommy> nvidia 6800gt
[04:35] <DrPainz> ok.  Thanks.  I'll be sure to come back more when I can.  I gotta get to bed now though
[04:35] <DrPainz> I'll talk with you later
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> drommy: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:35] <DrPainz> you come in here often?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: quite a bit
[04:35] <drommy> how do i add bootoptions?
[04:35] <Julie_> I did cut paste on an usb stick and both are missing
[04:35] <Julie_> help
[04:35] <DrPainz> ActionParsnip: then I'll see you around sometimes haha
[04:35] <DrPainz> take it easy
[04:36] <drommy> How do I enter boot commands on latest Ubuntu? From usb.
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | drommy
[04:41] <SleepingPrgmr> Hi, I'm trying to install Oracle Java and I need some help
[04:41] <lahwran> is there a packet sniffer tool that will play raw network data as audio?
[04:41] <lahwran> !ask | SleepingPrgmr
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: you could cat eth0 to the sound device
[04:44] <lahwran> can you cat eth0?
[04:44] <lahwran> I wasn't aware that it was that simple
[04:44] <LoRez> how does one keep ubuntu from automounting a specific filesystem with a known UUID?
[04:44] <irbda> lahwran: it's..... wried ...  play raw network data as audio .... What can be heard?
[04:45] <franz`> is there a way to recover your password with a id_rsa file? I set password-less ssh login a while ago, and don't remember my password anymore. ubuntu server
[04:45] <SleepingPrgmr> I'm trying to install Oracle Java 6 and I''m following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java help documentation here by using the manual method which is linked here http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java.  It seems to have worked correctly and I can type "java" in the bash shell but some of my programs which says I need something called JAVA_HOME set and I'm not sure what that may mean.
[04:45] <lahwran> irbda: it'd be fuzz, for the most part
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: cat /dev/eth0 > /dev/dsp    maybe
[04:45] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: network devices are not files
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: in Linux, EVERYTING is a file
[04:45] <lahwran> they're the only device that is an exception to that rule
[04:45] <lahwran> look it up
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: take your pick: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=in+Linux+everyting+is+a+file&kl=uk-en&kp=1
[04:46] <earspliT> its a lil more complicated then that
[04:46] <earspliT> depends on how you want to hear the sound
[04:46] <earspliT> you'd have to set the bit rate and sample size and such to match up
[04:47] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: http://www.unix.com/linux/106401-do-linux-have-device-file-ethernet-card.html
[04:48] <haylo> cat eth0 | clementine is what i use
[04:48] <lahwran> earspliT: 22050hz sample rate, one-byte samples
[04:48] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: Hey their again, sorry if im becoming a little annoying with this. do you think you can tell me how to install a deb file from the terminal, since when i try to double click it the install button is greyed out
[04:48] <lahwran> earspliT: simple enough, yes?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> haylo: thanks :)
[04:49] <haylo> ActionParsnip, :D
[04:49] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:49] <haylo> ActionParsnip, can he type gdebi *filename ?
[04:49] <Ben64> guest1201: what are you installing? certain things can be dangerous
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> haylo: not sure, i've always used dpkg
[04:50] <haylo> ok i should try that
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: I suggest you run:  sudo apt-get -f install      to pull in deps if needed
[04:50] <haylo> dpkg is what gdebi is built from i guess
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> haylo: makes sense
[04:50] <earspliT> lahwran: depends on what the data file looks like lolol
[04:51] <lahwran> there's no possible data file that wouldn't play represented like that :|
[04:51] <earspliT> lahwran: i've never tried it with binary data before, but if you could get the data into a buffer of some sort it would work
[04:52] <earspliT> basically, take incoming wireless data and set a word boundary
[04:52] <earspliT> its a stupid idea to begin with
[04:52] <haylo> yes
[04:52] <lahwran> yeah okay fine
[04:52] <earspliT> and would take some time coding the alsa API
[04:52] <lahwran> it will just sound like white noise
[04:52] <earspliT> exactly
[04:52] <earspliT> that IS all it is
[04:52] <haylo> yes with a billion possibilties of nothing
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: yes but thats what my command does, which is what you asked for and why I gave it
[04:53] <earspliT> you might as well just play /dev/random
[04:53] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: no, it doesn't! did you try it? there is no "eth0" file!
[04:53] <lahwran> and there never was and likely never will be
[04:53] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: it just redirects me to the software center with the greyed out install button.
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: then see what device name that references and use that
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: software centre won't get called with the dpkg command
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sounds like you double clicked the file
[04:54] <lahwran> for the last time, there isn't an eth0 device. if I was writing it myself I'd have to grab some packet sniffing code from somewhere and use that to get the data
[04:54] <lahwran> I was hoping someone else had already written it because it's an interesting curiosity
[04:54] <haylo> ActionParsnip, he can install it through that
[04:55] <haylo> guest1201,
[04:55] <haylo> does it say "install"
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> haylo: indeed but user wanted to instal the deb in terminal :)
[04:55] <xxOGATAIxx> hello
[04:55] <haylo> sry ActionParsnip i am forgetting but still talking
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> haylo: its all good dude
[04:59] <xxOGATAIxx> i'm not really sure how this works, but, i got a question... is there a channel for lxde?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: you can ask here :)
[05:00] <xxOGATAIxx> :) thanks
[05:02] <xxOGATAIxx> i've been looking for a global menu app in lxde... i actually found one, in *.tar.gz package... i used alien and turned it into a *.deb and installed it with GDebi (because ./configure didn't run)... but now i can't use it, it doesn't appear in the "add elements" part of the panel
[05:02] <earspliT> irc.ofdc.net #lxde
[05:02] <earspliT> ^^^thats the primary channel
[05:02] <earspliT> but there's one here too under just #lxde
[05:03] <xxOGATAIxx> thanks earsplit, i'll give it a try
[05:03] <earspliT> *oftc
[05:03] <earspliT> not dc
[05:03] <earspliT> tc
[05:03] <earspliT> sorry
[05:03] <FloodBot1> earspliT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <xxOGATAIxx> ok
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: if you want to edit the menu, just manipulate the files in /usr/share/applications
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: I believe alacarte will do it too
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: could also ask in #lubuntu
[05:05] <xxOGATAIxx> i'll investigate alacarte... thanks
[05:05] <addy476> hello
[05:05] <addy476> damo22; are u there
[05:06] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:06] <addy476> hello
[05:06] <addy476> oh thanks
[05:06] <Braden`> Hello
[05:06] <addy476> demo:remember me i ask to solve my problem last day and u suggest me to download a new version
[05:06] <Braden`> I installed the zentyal package, but when I browse to it using my browser it just has four green boxes.  Where do I configure it via the console?
[05:06] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:07] <damo22> addy476: did you install a new version?
[05:07] <addy476> damo: i download ubuntu 11.10 desktop
[05:07] <damo22> addy476: so what is the problem?
[05:07] <addy476> demo:please can u tell me about that when i m install it it show 4 option
[05:08] <damo22> addy476: do you want to lose all your data on the pc?
[05:08] <addy476> demo: 1 install along with 8.10,2:upgrade software update
[05:08] <addy476> demo:no actually i have 2 problem 1 i want to keep all my data which one is in 1 drive
[05:09] <damo22> addy476: can you remove the drive physically from the machine that you want to save the data?
[05:09] <addy476> demo:and 2 i have last time wrong partion so 100 gb space is unoccupied and it can no resolve
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> addy476: why do you not have a backup system in place?
[05:09] <addy476> tell me what i do to
[05:10] <addy476> action:mean?i m not familer with it
[05:10] <damo22> addy476: you need to backup everything always
[05:10] <gordon1234> Hi, just downgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to lubuntu 11.10 ... trying to use Sylpheed instead of Thunderbird ... can it use Google Contacts and Google Calendar? (sorry, but nobody on #lubuntu at the moment)
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> addy476: you should occasionally take a copy of your data so in the event of a catastrophe you can restore your data
[05:10] <addy476> demo:are u want to say to keep extra copy of it
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> gordon1234: how is changing the desktop a downgrade?
[05:10] <harsh343> how to make ubuntu wifi, i am using net connect and i want to make my system wi fi please help me
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:11] <harsh343> i am using ubuntu 11.10
[05:11] <addy476> action:catastrophe==?
[05:11] <haylo> please help me
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> addy476: bad things happening to the system like drive failure
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: if the drive fails what will you do
[05:11] <addy476> damo:but it is some movie and some software
[05:11] <xxOGATAIxx> nobody answers in #lxde...
[05:11] <harsh343> I want to share my internet connection to other dekstop
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: is the data important to you? if yes then always have  a backup
[05:11] <addy476> damo:action:please now tell me which option to select
[05:11] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[05:12] <gordon1234> ActionParsnip ... sorry, bad choice of words! Was having performance issues on a low spec laptop with Ubuntu 11.10, so wanted to try different desktop
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> gordon1234: LXDE is the awesome :)
[05:12] <addy476> damo:is i secect manually install then i don't know which partion to how much
[05:13] <xxOGATAIxx> do you know how to get globalmenu on lxde? is the faster desktop, & i want the global menu app
[05:13] <gordon1234> ActionParsnip: Agreed ... very impressed so far, and so fast
[05:14] <holaa> hola
[05:14] <xxOGATAIxx> hola
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> ello
[05:14] <haylo> ello mate
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> are you guys getting used to unity yet?
[05:14] <werder> harsh343: do you mean that you have an ethernet connection and you want to broadcast a wireless network for other computers to connect to?
[05:15] <haylo> i have been using it for months
[05:15] <haylo> i love it
[05:15] <thetinyjesus> just a few days for me, im starting to like it
[05:15] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, many of us have gotten used to unity.  those that refuse to like unity use gnome-shell or the non-unity stuff.  Or in my case, KDE xD
[05:15] <haylo> got my purple side bar
[05:15] <harsh343> werder, i have net connect usb and i want to share internet on another computer
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: yeah, i looked up gnome 3 it seemed to be more of the same as unity, and kde wasn't my flavor so just going to stick with it. everything seems to be running fine
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its fine here
[05:16] <werder> harsh343: do both computers have wireless cards?
[05:16] <xxOGATAIxx> i used lxde beacuse of memory... but also xfce...
[05:16] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i should mention i'm still on 11.04 xD
[05:16] <harsh343> werder, no but connected with lans
[05:16] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, got wicd. tried connecting to network and says Bad Password, yet I know it's the right password and can verify with desktop. any ideas?
[05:16] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i am waiting for the LTS since when the LTS comes out i'm replacing this hard drive xD
[05:16] <werder> harsh343: that makes things trickier
[05:17] <werder> harsh343: are they ethernet lan?
[05:17] <harsh343> yes
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: lol im actually pretty new to linux i dont have that much experience
[05:18] <aBound> thetinyjesus, LTS stands for Long-Term Support.
[05:18] <EvilResistance> ^ that
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: any idea how smooth it is upgrading from one linux distro to a newer
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> aBound: yeah i know LTS, i just always like new things
[05:18] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, do you want the noobish answer, or the "Technician's Recommendation of Clean Install vs. Upgraded Install As It Pertains to Ubuntu Linux"?
[05:19] <aBound> I'd prefer a clean install less chance of anything that goes wrong.
[05:19] <EvilResistance> ^ that
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: not sure dude, what encryption do you use?
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> so is it a good thing that I partioned my HD windows 7/Ubuntu/ Media?
[05:20] <Jeremy3D> wpa2
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> thallada: its one way
[05:20] <Jeremy3D> i believe
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: can your wifi chip connect to that under Linux?
[05:20] <werder> harsh343: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> I know i'll be able to save my video/music etc, but when I reinstall ubuntu will i loose all my customization and settings or is there a way to keep it
[05:20] <sherl0ck> whats the average salary of a linux administrator?
[05:21] <harsh343> werder, 11.10
[05:21] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i have something similar to that, except on my system its: WinServer2k8R2 / Ubuntu / RHEL6
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !ot|sherl0ck
[05:21] <sherl0ck> 10-4
[05:21] <dill> i am having trouble with wifi
[05:21] <haylo> did you restart it?
[05:22] <dill> whats that ?
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: how did you get that many? when i first tried installing linux, i lost everything because samsung partitions their drives 4 times to have a recovery partition and i couldn't just get rid of it
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: if you backup the hidden files in your home folder you can restore them
[05:22] <dill> can someone help
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: the ones that are usually like .weechat etc in the usr/lib ?
[05:23] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, (1) I'm an IT technician, so I have clean, unpartitioned OEM hard drives.  (2) I manually partition my hard drive when I install OSes
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: that sort of thing, yes
[05:23] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, lookin it up
[05:23] <dill> network manager states there are no devices avaible
[05:23] <savantelite> * For each "Release" and "ARCH" Copy vmlinuz and initrd.img from /images/pxeboot/ directory on "disc 1" of that $Release/$ARCH to /tftpboot/images/centos/$ARCH/$RELEASE
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: yeah my friend gave me his win 7 disk, manually did everything installed win/linux mint decided i wanted ubuntu so redid that partiton etc. im not a IT or anything but i can usually make my way around a computer
[05:24] <EvilResistance> yep
[05:24] <werder> harsh343: so this is a good link, but the application for modifying network connections is slightly different in 11.10http://www.opensourceisbetter.com/sharing-internet-connection-trough-ethernet-card-ubuntu/
[05:24] <dill> hello
[05:24] <EvilResistance> !patience | dill
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: do you know a website that will let me know exactly which directories need to be backed up?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: depends what apps you want the config backing up of. I'd just backup the entirety of your home folder
[05:27] <SleepingPrgmr> sleep
[05:27] <SleepingPrgmr> oops
[05:29] <groYen> join #Flashback @irc.flashbak.org
[05:30] <EvilResistance> groYen, you shouldnt advertise channels or other IRC nets in here randomly...
[05:33] <samrat> I'm trying to save battery. I'm using wi-fi but not ethernet but powertop shows be that eth0 is taking up some battery too.  If so, open "Hardware Drivers" and install the proper driver from there
[05:38] <samrat> werder: thanks. Also, there seems to be a "Radio device(iwlagn)" running. Any idea what it is?
[05:38] <Braden`> I installed the zentyal package, but when I browse to it using my browser it just has four green boxes.  Where do I configure it via the console?
[05:38] <theadmin> !info zentyal
[05:39] <dill> hold on
[05:39] <theadmin> Braden`: What's that? Doesn't seem to be anything from our repos
[05:39] <groYen><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:39] <theadmin> groYen: Stop that.
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: A radio device is wi-fi
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: "iwlagn" is your wireless driver
[05:40] <samrat> theadmin: wlan0 and "radio device" both are running, is that normal?
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: Yeah I think so
[05:41] <[[thufir]]> how do I set the colors/prefs for xterm?  *not* using gnome-terminal or equivalent, but xterm.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: look into the PS1 variable
[05:41] <samrat> theadmin: thanks, i was wondering because my laptop also has Intel MyWifi (which makes my laptop the wifi hotspot)
[05:42] <theadmin> samrat: Ah, it could be that actually
[05:43] <[[thufir]]> hmm.  instead of using xterm, how can you use emacs from gnome-terminal?  there's a problem where alt is tied to the window, rather than being an emacs command.
[05:44] <KuntSlime> What would Barack Obama's diarrhea taste like?
[05:44] <Braden`> zentyal = ebox
[05:44] <Braden`> ebox is just the old name
[05:44] <speak> [[thufir]] You can disable alt+... keyboard shortcuts in the Gnome terminal options
[05:44] <Braden`> the ebox package is in the ubuntu repos
[05:45] <[[thufir]]> speak: ah, thanks.
[05:45] <dill> it says no devices avaible
[05:46] <speak> [[thufir]] no problem
[05:46] <dill> so i cant connect via lan
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: if you use terminal alot, try guake / tilda
[05:47] <[[thufir]]> I like the look of gnome-terminal, and can't get xterm or windows emacs to look like that.   I'll look into those others. I'm thinking of switching to emacs.
[05:48] <nagarajan> unbuntu
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: guake hides and shows on a keypress like the console in Quake, wolfenstein etc
[05:48] <nagarajan> hi there
[05:48] <nagarajan> at ubuntu
[05:49] <nagarajan> Is there at some one at UBUNTU
[05:49] <cfhowlett> nagarajan: greetigns
[05:50] <nagarajan> I need help on UBUNTU
[05:50] <cfhowlett> !ask|nagarajan
[05:51] <dill> iwconfig yeilds lo no wireless extensions
[05:51] <nagarajan> I could not use GTALK voice chat with EMPATHY
[05:52] <nagarajan> Is there any other voip is suitable to UBUNTU
[05:52] <[[thufir]]> I use skype.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> !ekiga|nagarajan
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: pidgin will do it
[05:53] <theadmin> nagarajan: Stop screaming. Empathy does not support voice chat over Jabber if I recall right. I can't really recall any clients which do, but I think Pidgin could at some point
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> http://lifehacker.com/5340632/pidgin-26-adds-google-talk-video-and-voice-support
[05:54] <nagarajan> EKIGA supports GTALK
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: why the caps??
[05:54] <nagarajan> EKIGA supports GTALK????
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: what does it achieve?
[05:55] <theadmin> nagarajan: Stop screaming. And no, Ekiga is for SIP.
[05:55] <nagarajan> which supports gtalk????
[05:56] <thetinyjesus> anyone know how to get aspell working in weechat?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: pidgin, like I said.
[05:56] <nagarajan> ok
[05:56] <nagarajan> trhank u
[05:56] <cfhowlett> nagarajan: gtalk doesn't seem to be supported on ubuntu.  You might want to direct queries directly to them
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: why ask a question if you won't read the replies?
[05:57] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Gtalk is Jabber. It's supported very well.
[05:57] <Jeremy3D> dang ActionParsnip thought i was getting closer but no luck. wicd returning Bad Password error and none of the fixes online seem to help
[05:57] <theadmin> thetinyjesus: Um, aspell is a GUI library thing, it won't work in console apps, sorry
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you try with no encryption, does it connect?
[05:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip,  i've uninstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome to my knowledge
[05:57] <cfhowlett> theadmin: aaargh.  I'm obviously not up on the nomenclatures, am I?
[05:57] <theadmin> cfhowlett: :P Yep.
[05:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, you mean removing encryption thru the router?
[05:58] <ganesh_ariveguru> :3
[05:58] <ganesh_ariveguru> ;3
[05:59] <ganesh_ariveguru> :)
[06:00] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: Stop this
[06:00] <ganesh_ariveguru> sorry i just tried some smileys
[06:01] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: You can go to #test for trying things out
[06:01] <ganesh_ariveguru> #test how...
[06:01] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: Just /join #test
[06:02] <theadmin> Like usual
[06:02] <ganesh_ariveguru> ya...i got it..thanks
[06:02] <Gautam1983> Hi all, whenever ubuntu boots in this system, the volume is muted.. any ideas how to fix it? Thanks.
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: can you unmute?
[06:03] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, yeah, but I have to always do this manually..
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: yes turn it off, just to test
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: ubuntu version??
[06:03] <Gautam1983> 11.10
[06:04] <sherif> how can i install .tar.bz2
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: look in your preferences>sound
[06:04] <theadmin> sherif: There usually is a README file inside. Read it.
[06:04] <ganesh_ariveguru> irc://freenode/sherif,isnick hi
[06:05] <addy534> demo:
[06:05] <addy534> demo:are r there
[06:05] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, What do I look for in there?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: theme sounds on?
[06:05] <addy534> action;are u there
[06:05] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, Theme sound???
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> addy534: sup?
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> addy534: try tab completing nicks, it highlights them
[06:06] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: if the theme is OFF you'll get no sounds.
[06:06] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, There is no "theme" option..
[06:07] <addy534> demo:
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: ask the channel again - I'm still on 10.04 so my setup is different from your's.
[06:07] <Jake55> can anyone help me with this ptrace problem please?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1509842
[06:07] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, Ah, okay thanks.
[06:08] <boom2pow> hello im from philippine can you help me with my problem?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !ask|boom2pow
[06:08] <sherif> how can i unpack program
[06:08] <theadmin> boom2pow: We can't help you with *that* problem :P
[06:08] <Gautam1983> Hi all, whenever ubuntu boots in this system, the volume is muted.. any ideas how to fix it? Thanks. [Ubuntu 11.10 on Sony VAIO / Intel Corporation 82801H]
[06:08] <theadmin> boom2pow: We only support Ubuntu
[06:08] <addy534> is and body help me procedure of instal a ubuntu 11
[06:08] <addy534> with out loss my data drive
[06:08] <boom2pow> cfhowlett, how can install compiz in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:09] <[R]> addy534: you won't lose anything when you install
[06:09] <Stanley00> addy534: can you give more details?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[06:09] <addy534> but i don;t want to loos
[06:09] <sherif> how can i unpack .tar.bz2
[06:09] <[R]> sherif: with tar
[06:09] <theadmin> sherif: tar xjf blah.tar.bz2
[06:10] <sherif> theadmin ty
[06:10] <Stanley00> addy534: but if you do right, you wont loose anythings
[06:11] <boom2pow> thank you sir cfhowlett ^_^
[06:11] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: no problem.  eat some balut for me.
[06:11] <sherif> theadmin must i write the folder name as it's?
[06:11] <boom2pow> cfhowlett, wow... do you know balut?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: once upon  a time married a pinay
[06:12] <theadmin> sherif: If it's not in $PWD, you should specify the full path, otherwise just the filename
[06:12] <boom2pow> yeah...
[06:13] <boom2pow> so you like girls like pinay?
[06:13] <sherif> theadmin no it's in Downloads
[06:13] <theadmin> sherif: cd ~/Downloads ; tar xf blah.tar.bz2
[06:14] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, what was the command to see eth0 eth1 etc?  didn't you say something about telling wicd to use one of those?
[06:14] <sherif> theadmin but blah is very long :S
[06:14] <theadmin> sherif: Enter first few letters and hit tab
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: sudo lshw -C network
[06:15] <theadmin> sherif: For instance if the name is "i1401923daapfqe1" you could type "i14<tab>"
[06:15] <drcode> hi all
[06:15] <drcode> is there unity 3d in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:15] <drcode> I am using the regular unity
[06:15] <sherif> theadmin cool is it xf or xjf
[06:15] <theadmin> drcode: The "regular" unity is 3d
[06:15] <drcode> I see
[06:15] <drcode> I realy love it
[06:16] <theadmin> sherif: If you're using newer versions of tar, then both will work. If "xf" doesn't work, use "xjf" for bz2 and "xzf" for gz
[06:16] <theadmin> Anyhoo, I'll be back in a bit
[06:16] <sherif> theadmin thx alot
[06:16] <drcode> is there option to run ms office 2010 under linux , I know that on mac there is option to run lite windows and office?
[06:16] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, hmm it's not showing a network this time. that's strange
[06:17] <theadmin> drcode: Wine or Virtualbox, but they're not supported here ( go to #winehq and #vbox respectively ) or just use LibreOffice (comes with Ubuntu)
[06:17] <theadmin> And I'm off
[06:17] <sherif> theadmin error is not recoverable exitting now
[06:17] <drcode> ok
[06:18] <drcode> I am using it, it work great
[06:18] <irbda> drcode: ? you are using it. but you ask?
[06:19] <drcode> I just ask if there is software like in mac
[06:20] <Phil> Morning, folks.
[06:21] <Phil> I don't suppose someone here could provide a bit of advice?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !ask|phil
[06:21] <Phil> ty
[06:22] <Phil> Well, I'm sitting at work, trying to get ubuntu up and running on my lappy.
[06:22] <Phil> Runs fine, but I need to get the wireless driver to connect to wifi.  And our modem here won't let me direct connect.  I have to connect through wireless router.
[06:23] <Phil> So, is there any way to dl the needed driver package through win7, reboot into ubuntu, and install?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Phil I bet you have a broadcom wifi card?
[06:23] <Phil> yep
[06:24] <Phil> older hp lappy
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Phil what version of *buntu
[06:25] <Phil> 11.20, i think?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Phil 11.10??
[06:25] <Phil> i just ran the wubi install.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[06:25] <Phil> .... no idea.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: we just need the product line of the wifi
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you won't have any idea, you need to run the command
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Phil ... what AP said..  run that command in a terminal
[06:26] <Phil> will do, but it'll take a few minutes.
[06:27] <Phil> out of curiosity, is there a way to run ubuntu and win7 at the same time, or am I going to be doing a bit of swapping back and forth
[06:27] <cfhowlett> Phil no can do via wubi but it can be done in virtualbox
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Phil: could use virtualbox..
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Phil: but you cannot do that with the setup you have
[06:28] <Phil> ah.  no worries.  be back in a few.
[06:29] <AtomicRobot> Hey, can anybody recommend any IT or InfoSec IRCs?
[06:29] <jzyamateur> question: i am  ubuntu 10.04 with acer timelinex gt4820 and atheros card, i cant get adhoc network to work, is there any workaround?
[06:31] <froxt> hello everyone
[06:31] <cfhowlett> froxt: greetings
[06:31] <froxt> ty :)
[06:32] <froxt> Can ubuntu be upgrade from its current version to new one
[06:32] <cfhowlett> froxt: what is your current version??
[06:32] <froxt> 10.10
[06:33] <cfhowlett> froxt: yes you can upgrade that version.
[06:33] <froxt> I was trying few mins ago but failed, some issue occurs
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> froxt: you'll need to upgrade to 11.04 then to 11.10
[06:34] <kelvin> hi how can i upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04
[06:34] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|kelvin
[06:34] <SwedeMike> kelvin: sudo update-manager -d
[06:35] <urlin2u> kelvin, you have only one OS right now?
[06:35] <theadmin> SwedeMike: You don't run GUI apps with sudo :/
[06:35] <kelvin> no i have ubuntu and xp both
[06:35] <theadmin> !gksu | SwedeMike
[06:36] <urlin2u> kelvin, 12.04 is in development, are you sure?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> kelvin: are you REALLY sure?
[06:36] <kelvin> i checked with distrowatch
[06:36] <kelvin> 12.04 is released
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> 12.04 works here !wfm :)
[06:36] <cfhowlett> kelvin: wrong
[06:37] <theadmin> urlin2u, kelvin, cfhowlett - please take 12.04 discussion to #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: its not, look at the version number and think..
[06:37] <urlin2u> theadmin, this is whether it is a good idea.
[06:37] <kelvin> plz correct me if i m wrong
[06:37] <theadmin> urlin2u: It's not
[06:37] <kelvin> cant i install 12.04
[06:37] <theadmin> kelvin: You ARE wrong, 12.04 is NOT released. It will be released in April.
[06:38] <jewliminator> :D
[06:38] <theadmin> kelvin: The Ubuntu versioning system is YY.MM
[06:38] <theadmin> kelvin: Year.Month. Thus, 12.04 is April, 2012
[06:38] <kelvin> thats i know but if u check with www.distrowatch.com
[06:38] <vsync> theadmin having a powertrip? mediocrity in here.
[06:38] <kelvin> its shows relased
[06:38] <kelvin> so is it wrong informaiton
[06:38] <kelvin> ??/
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: it doesn't matter what ANY site says. It's not out and its in Beta
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> the only official source is canonical
[06:39] <irbda> so after 100years the version number will be repeated
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> boom!
[06:39] <cfhowlett> kelvin: distrowatch is not official **buntu information.  see http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[06:39] <theadmin> kelvin: "second alpha". Alpha means testing release. Not official.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> scratch that see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[06:39] <kelvin> kk
[06:39] <vsync> please. Don't try to argue with anyone and don't prolong this conversation. Wiseasses in here like to go on a powertrip if they happen to know something.
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> everyone we are derailing!
[06:39] <kelvin> understand now
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: tells you when the milestones are too
[06:39] <sectionme> kelvin: It states on distrowatch "Development Release: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2" is new.
[06:40] <pangolin> Please take the 12.04 talk to #ubuntu=1
[06:40] <pangolin> +1
[06:40] <theadmin> Okay, stop now for god's sake, this ain't supported here... #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <theadmin> How many times do I haz to repeat -_-
[06:40] <froxt> admin
[06:40] <Angablade> How is everyone tonight?
[06:40] <kelvin> k
[06:40] <urlin2u> theadmin, lol you answered it more times then I did, grow up.
[06:40] <froxt> im unable to upgrade my current version
[06:40] <theadmin> !ot | Angablade
[06:41] <Angablade> I know.
[06:41] <Angablade> I was just being polite.
[06:41] <theadmin> Angablade: Ah, ok, sorry
[06:41] <Angablade> Anyways, I got a bit of a problem.
[06:41] <theadmin> urlin2u: Still.
[06:41] <theadmin> Angablade: Yes, sure, just ask
[06:41] <cfhowlett> froxt:  error messages would be helpful with this issue...
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|froxt
[06:42] <Angablade> I am trying to remove this horrid thing called unity from my laptop.
[06:42] <Angablade> How would I do so?
[06:42] <froxt> well i can provide screen shot
[06:42] <theadmin> Angablade: Install another desktop and remove unity
[06:42] <kelvin> is it creat any problem in security if i installed software which is not provide by ubuntu community
[06:42] <cfhowlett> froxt: use http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[06:42] <Angablade> Thanks. Erm... Would you happen to know how?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: it is possible it could have nastys ni, but its extremely rare
[06:42] <theadmin> Angablade: Which do you prefer? XFCE? LXDE? KDE?
[06:43] <Angablade> I have used KDE before. So that should suit me.
[06:43] <theadmin> !purekde | Angablade
[06:43] <Angablade> Thank you.
[06:44] <froxt> http://imagebin.org/197552
[06:44] <sectionme> Anyone know of an options for nfs exports to allow nesting of mounts on the server-side, eg. /exports/work/{project1,project2,project3} which say project2 is on a different mount point, currently it gets exported as the empty directory as if it wasn't mounted.
[06:44] <froxt> please check this link
[06:45] <cfhowlett> froxt: you're trying to update to 11.10??
[06:45] <froxt> No. upgrading to 11.04
[06:45] <Angablade> Thank you theadmin. Am I allowed to idle here until the process is complete?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> froxt: nevermind I see it now. you're going from 10.10 to 11.04??
[06:45] <froxt> yes
[06:45] <theadmin> Angablade: Sure thing. Heh, most of the people in here idle
[06:45] <Angablade> Okay, thanks.
[06:46] <theadmin> !who | Angablade, just so you familiarize with the general webiquette of IRC
[06:46] <Phil> Ok, back now.
[06:48] <froxt> Any more suggestions?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> froxt: I can't understand why you would be getting this error on a 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade.  Then again, I'm still on 10.04 as I only do LTS releases.  Please restate the question for the channel.  It's a new one to me.
[06:49] <Angablade> theadmin, Thank you very much. I will update you on the progress when it does something more than load..
[06:49] <theadmin> froxt: Try removing any third-party repos (i.e. PPAs) and packages.
[06:50] <froxt> its simple, last night I install ubunu 10.10 version. and then i check for the update and it shows that 11.04 is available to install, so i click upgrade, but while calculating it shows this error.
[06:50] <froxt> ok admin ill try that now
[06:50] <theadmin> froxt: I suggest you just install 11.10 from scratch if there isn't anything important there and you don't have much customizations
[06:51] <froxt> hmm
[06:51] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:51] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:52] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:52] <cfhowlett> froxt: you might also give thought to going with LTS only as more polishing goes into those releases
[06:52] <vsync> froxt try apt-get clean and run it again
[06:52] <vsync> there might be broken packages in the cache
[06:52] <froxt> I would like to add a little infor about my self, Im new to ubuntu
[06:53] <theadmin> froxt: Then it'd be simplier to just reinstall to the newest release (that is, 11.10)
[06:53] <Phil> Ok, the guys wanting me to run the sudo lshw -C network, I've got that.
[06:53] <Phil> And thanks for your patience, I know it took me a bit.
[06:53] <Phil> +-network
[06:53] <Phil>           description: Network Controller
[06:53] <Phil>           product:  BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[06:53] <Phil>          vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[06:53] <Phil>           physical id: 0
[06:53] <Phil>           bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[06:53] <Phil>         version: 01
[06:53] <FloodBot1> Phil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | phil#
[06:53] <Angablade> theadmin, the process finished. Should I restart the machine?
[06:54] <theadmin> Angablade: Yeah, if it finished successfully
[06:54] <Angablade> theadmin, it did.
[06:54] <Phil> appreciate it, guys.
[06:54] <North_> I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB installer. but I faced the problem whlie running the Universial USB installer. the error message is "Cannot open output file : autorun.inf" Please HELP>
[06:54] <Phil> Thanks.
[06:54] <theadmin> Angablade: Well, actually, since you can't restart via Unity anymore (since it's removed), run "sudo reboot" in the terminal
[06:54] <Angablade> Thanks.
[06:54] <froxt> I'll just install 11.10 direct from downloaded iso
[06:54] <kelvin> hi
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> froxt: gives a cleaner OS, feels like a new jumper :)
[06:55] <froxt> :)
[06:55] <vsync> ActionParsnip without actually understanding the problem. props
[06:55] <vsync> it's the ubuntu-wayh
[06:55] <vsync> -h
[06:56] <theadmin> vsync: Yeah, Ubuntu never got release upgrades right. I honestly don't understand their system with "releases", rolling OSs feel much clean, but... If you use Ubuntu, then stick to their ways. If you don't like them, switch :P
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> vsync: Ive always clean installed. I find I get fewer issues
[06:57] <Ben64> i always upgrade
[06:57] <Ben64> e->f->g->h->l; no problems
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> as soon as it goes alpha1 I'm on it :)
[06:57] <kelvin> hi i have ubuntu 11.10 installed in my system.. on my desktop folder and other icon is showing too large... want to make small like xp.... how can i do ??/
[06:58] <eshlox> hi, newest kubuntu, kmail, Unknown error. (Unable to fetch item from backend), ideas?
[06:58] <Elixer> test
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !test|elixer
[06:58] <North_>  I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB installer. but I faced the problem whlie running the Universial USB installer. the error message is "Cannot open output file : autorun.inf" Please HELP?
[06:58] <vsync> theadmin & ActionParsnip yeah sure. The problem was most likely corrupted packages in the cache, i.e. shutdown at download or the likes. But sure =)
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: so the icons on the desktop are too big?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|north_
[06:58] <Elixer> #test
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: is it all icons?
[06:58] <kelvin> North : u should format USB driver and reinstall ubuntu in USB
[06:58] <rhin0> hi -- is there any way I can get panel with applets on top of screen with unity -- without instlaling gnome classic gnome earlier or anything
[06:58] <kelvin> yes Action prasnip
[06:59] <kelvin> all icons
[06:59] <theadmin> vsync: Actually it's got nothing to do with package cache, it's ignored when doing release upgrades. The problem is very likely third party repos :P
[06:59] <North_> kelvin: I already format USB driver.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: what GPU do you use?
[06:59] <kelvin> how to check GPU
[07:00] <theadmin> kelvin: lspci | grep -i vga
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> :)
[07:00] <vsync> theadmin well that could be easily resolved too. And also, actually you can't say for sure
[07:00] <kelvin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[07:01] <Tanvir> Hello everyone, how can I mount all drives at start-up in Ubuntu? I am using 11.10.
[07:01] <savantelite> I am using an old wiki page for an newer system, how do I find /etc/dhcpd.conf on my newer system?
[07:01] <rhin0> i just want apps clickeable from a taskbar
[07:01] <theadmin> vsync: I can, because, well, packages in the cache are for the current release, not for the new one. It won't deal with them since they ain't the right release.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: i'm not too good with intel things. All I can suggest is make sure you are fully updated
[07:01] <Jordan_U> !fstab | Tanvir
[07:01] <rhin0> none of this having to type to find it
[07:01] <rhin0> the taskbar always there - a panel
[07:01] <kelvin> its fully updated
[07:01] <theadmin> rhin0: Try XFCE
[07:01] <rhin0> NO
[07:01] <theadmin> !xubuntu | rhin0
[07:02] <Tanvir> Jordan_U, thank you. I am reading.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Tanvir: You're welcome.
[07:02] <theadmin> rhin0: KDE? LXDE? There are many alternatives to Unity
[07:02] <Phil> Ok, I have the Broadcom BCM4311, which means I need the STA drivers.  Since I have no internet access under ubuntu currently, I'll need to follow the 'now internet' instructions.  Will those work since I didn't use a CD to install?
[07:02] <rhin0> xfce gave me problems on my hardware (11.10)
[07:02] <rhin0> can't use 10.04
[07:02] <Phil> *no internet instructions
[07:02] <rhin0> why can#t you get an app with one click?
[07:02] <vsync> theadmin two different versions are not able to use some packages of the same version? Or is the apt-system so dumb it'll just pull same stuff out of the new repo anyway?
[07:03] <rhin0> thats absolutely ridiculous - the panel was essential
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Phil boot windows, download the broadcom linux sta , save to usb and reboot ubuntu.
[07:03] <theadmin> vsync: Yeah, even if the versions are identical (e.g. "2.5-natty" and "2.5-oneiric") it will pull the oneiric one out
[07:03] <theadmin> rhin0: Install gnome-fallback
[07:03] <rhin0> what absolute GARBAGE unity desktop is
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Phil: the install CD can do what yuo need
[07:04] <Phil> cfhowlett, that makes a whole lot of sense.  And that'll teach me to leave my usb at home when I decide to install ubuntu  while at work.
[07:04] <Phil> i don't have teh install CD, ActionParsnip.
[07:04] <Phil> I did the Wubi install.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Phil: wubi makes no difference to your situation
[07:05] <vsync> theadmin well in that case, the same should apply for 3rd party repos so I can't see the problem being there either
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Phil fwiw: I went through this process with my bcm4313...and if I can figure this stuff out, anyone can
[07:05] <pehden> do you know a program for linux like nero 6 for windows
[07:05] <theadmin> vsync: How can it find out the new repos for third parties? That'd be a complicated process... It doesn't do that xD
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you can mount the install CD inside your ubuntu install and use it as a repository
[07:05] <cfhowlett> pehden: brasero
[07:05] <pehden> ubuntu
[07:05] <vsync> theadmin yes and in that case it just ignores them, no?
[07:06] <theadmin> pehden: Brasero, K3b, xfburn
[07:06] <pehden> cfhowlett does it do menus
[07:06] <Phil> cfhowlett: I believe ya, I just don't have my usb with me.
[07:06] <theadmin> vsync: No, it throws that error at ya and waits till you resolve it by hand
[07:06] <theadmin> vsync: Silly I know
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you can download the ISO in Wnidows and then access your ntfs partition via the /host folder
[07:06] <vsync> well, i switched out of debian-based stuff because of dpkg, but that's just crap
[07:06] <vsync> super duper crap
[07:06] <cfhowlett> pehden: no idea but it will burn disc just fine
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Phil: I advise you use a wired connection though, makes life a LOT easier
[07:07] <ice10001> Hi all,
[07:07] <Phil> I'm at work right now, and can't do wired.  I tried.  it won't even work in win7.
[07:07] <savantelite> I am using an old wiki page for an newer system, how do I find /etc/dhcpd.conf on my newer system?
[07:07] <sherif> how can i go to directory opt using terminal
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Phil: great :(
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> sherif: cd /opt
[07:07] <Phil> Hotel settup.  the cable co has it settup so that it has to go through the router, apparently, and I don't have a spare cable to use.
[07:08] <ice10001> can anyone help me with getting my xubuntu 64 (11.10) software centre to connect from behind a proxy? I have googled & tried all suggestions, and no dice.
[07:08] <sherif> ActionParsnip how can i remove application from there
[07:09] <theadmin> savantelite: I beleive it was moved to /etc/dhcp
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> sherif: there is usually an uninstaller, what did you install?
[07:09] <sherif> actionparsnip second life
[07:10] <kelvin> how can i change hostname through terminal window
[07:10] <savantelite> I only found  /etc/dhcp/dhclient.d/n
[07:10] <theadmin> kelvin: echo "something" | sudo tee /etc/hostname # And then reboot
[07:10] <Alina> HIII AAAL!!!!
[07:10] <ice10001> bump
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> sherif: I'd check the folders for an uninstall command
[07:11] <Alina> HELP PLEASE!
[07:11] <Jordan_U> kelvin: Do *NOT* do what theadmin just suggested.
[07:11] <kelvin> k theadmin
[07:11] <Jordan_U> !hostname | kelvin theadmin
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !alina|ask
[07:11] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Err, huh? It works... Oh, you need to update /etc/hosts
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: you'll need to change /etc/hosts too or sudo won't work
[07:11] <sherif> ActionParsnip cudnt find
[07:11] <Braden`> How do I tell if a fs is ext2, 3, or 4?
[07:11] <theadmin> mmk
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sudo parted -l
[07:11] <sherif> ActionParsnip y isnt apt-get remove not working?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: did you install it with apt-get or dpkg ?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <FloodBot1> Alina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <theadmin> kelvin: Wait, do this first: cat /etc/hosts | sed "s/$HOSTNAME/newhostname/" | sudo tee /etc/hosts
[07:12] <sherif> ActionParsnip i installed it with tar
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: then that's why, its not in the database is it
[07:12] <Phil> ActionParsnip: thanks, btw.  The help is appreciated.
[07:12] <sherif> ActionParsnip wut database
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: you can just delete the folder then as it isn't tied into anything
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> sherif: the package database
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Phil: np
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip ah i think so
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip how can i delete the folder
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Phil: thanks for the gratitude
[07:13] <Braden`> parted -l just returned a blank line
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> sherif: sudo rm -r /opt/foldername
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: it needs sudo
[07:13] <theadmin> Braden`: sudo fdisk -l
[07:13] <kelvin> i couldnt find /etc/hostname
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip no way by mouse?
[07:14] <Braden`> cannot open /proc/partitions
[07:14] <Braden`> :/
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: fdisk would show them all as 'Linux' type
[07:14] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: ...Oh, true
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> sherif: you can run@:  gksudo nautilus     and do it that way, it's really not necessary, just use TAB to complete the folder name, why do you need to use the mouse. I already gave you the command??
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: parted is smarter and shows partition types properly
[07:15] <sherif> ActionParsnip because i may forget this command later
[07:15] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: parted is harder to operate than fdisk most of the time though
[07:15] <sherif> ActionParsnip wut it stand for
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> sherif: that's not a sentence..
[07:16] <quiescens> Braden`: i usually like: sudo file -s /dev/(partition here)
[07:16] <sherif> ActionParsnip rm- r means?
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: Remove recursively.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> theadmin: Parted can't tell you the differnce between ext2,3, or 4. Which was the original goal.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: true but the -l option gives more detail than fdisk -l ;)
[07:17] <theadmin> Jordan_U: True, just saying :D
[07:17] <sherif> ActionParsnip is there other types of remove
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> sherif: it's rm -r   not rm- r
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: "man COMMAND" will give you a detailed description and usage instructions for a command.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> sherif: (r)e(m)ove
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: So, "man rm"
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> sherif: the -r means recursive and will delete the folder and all subfolders
[07:18] <krised> Anyone know how to change the lightDM login name "other" to somthing else ? I need it to just ask for a name (sorta like Windows ) instead of listing the name Other
[07:19] <sherif> ActionParsnip ty
[07:19] <kelvin> hi
[07:19] <sherif> theadmin man stands for?
[07:19] <theadmin> sherif: MANual
[07:19] <kelvin> i couldnt find /etc/hostname
[07:19] <soup3> Is anyone here familiar with tcpdump?
[07:19] <sherif> theadmin cool
[07:20] <Stanley00> krised: Other is not an account name actually...
[07:21] <sherif> theadmin is there away to know commands for any actions i want i mean if i wanna copy how can i know the command
[07:21] <Phil> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx    says it's for 10.04.  Will that still work for 11.10?
[07:21] <Stanley00> krised: it is for some accounts dont list there.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Phil: same difference
[07:21] <theadmin> sherif: "cp" is the command for that. "man intro" will be a good starting guide.
[07:21] <Phil> just doublechecking.   Ask the pro before I make a mess.
[07:21] <Phil> ty
[07:22] <krised> Stanly00 yeah. Isnt it possible to have lightDM just ask for a username and password ? ive already had it set to not show usernames but i need to have it simply ask for username and password
[07:22] <krised> like windows basicly
[07:22] <Stanley00> sherif: you can use "apropos", ex: "apropos copy"
[07:22] <sherif> theadmin thx
[07:23] <Stanley00> krised: I dont know, and I dont think it is possible
[07:23] <theadmin> krised: How about installing lxdm? It just does that. Asks a username and a password in plain-text entry fields without any lists or other mess
[07:23] <sherif> stanley00 cool
[07:23] <cfhowlett> sherif: like this?  http://files.fosswire.com/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[07:23] <sherif> stanley00 apropos stands for?
[07:24] <Stanley00> sherif: I dont know either ;), ask "whatis apropos" =))
[07:24] <krised> theadmin i might try that. Though Ive found that uninstalling lightDM and installing GDM will bootch the system if i attempt to remastersys it back into an ISO.. the fresh iso when burned to a disc will not boot (hangs after checking battery state )
[07:24] <theadmin> krised: gdm is honestly really, really weird.
[07:24] <krised> so finally i found that its due to gdm messing up this. cause if i just stick to lightdm it works
[07:24] <theadmin> krised: lxdm never failed me personally :D
[07:25] <krised> theadmin oh ill give it a try then. thanks
[07:25] <sherif> stanley00 cool its just hard to remember apropos
[07:25] <theadmin> krised: There is Qingy too which is console/terminal/text-based if you wish.
[07:25] <Stanley00> sherif: "man -k copy" does the same thing.
[07:25] <krised> theadmin nono. I need it to look as much like windows as possible
[07:26] <theadmin> krised: But Windows does list users...
[07:26] <sherif> stanley00 cool
[07:26] <krised> theadmin ah sorry for being unclear. im having the ubuntu set up for domain use.. hence domain windows does not list  users.
[07:27] <theadmin> krised: Ah
[07:28] <sherif> can i open pdf files on ubuntu?
[07:28] <kelvin> hi
[07:28] <theadmin> sherif: Yes, there's a PDF viewer installed by default (evince)
[07:28] <sherif> theadmin yh right
[07:29] <krised> theadmin i work at a school. we got some old computers which id need to get up running - so ive costumized 11.10. but replacing lightdm with gdm screws it up.. but ill give lxdm a try
[07:29] <theadmin> krised: I see, hm... But why do you need it to look like Windows?
[07:29] <krised> sherif you can more or less count on a default ubuntu 11.10 install to open just about any common windows file yes
[07:29] <theadmin> krised: Also, uh, remastersys is broken/abandoned/deprecated I beleive
[07:30] <sherif> krised didnt get u
[07:30] <krised> theadmin hmm its updated still though... i belive due to the many demands for it..
[07:30] <theadmin> krised: Ah ok
[07:30] <theadmin> sherif: You can open everything that you can open in Windows in Ubuntu
[07:30] <krised> sherif most files that you would open in a standard windows computer (such as MS office files) including pdf will easily be opened in ubuntu with libreoffice (its build in as well )
[07:30] <theadmin> sherif: No exceptions, you can even run exe files (although not too well)
[07:30] <sherif> theadmin you mean i dont need terminal?
[07:31] <theadmin> sherif: Most of the time you don't, yeah, Ubuntu has GUIs for thingies xD
[07:31] <Phil> ActionParsnip, I think I'm obliged to inform you that I'm an idiot.  Apparently, I can connect directly to the cable modem, if I just reset the bloody thing.
[07:31] <sherif> krised anything will work but not exe right?
[07:31] <krised> theadmin our users are used to windows (we run cad/cam programs ) but the old computers run linux just fine.. for breaks like youtube and facebook and that sort.
[07:31] <theadmin> krised: hm okay
[07:32] <theadmin> sherif: exes can work in Ubuntu if you install Wine, but they won't work very good
[07:32] <krised> sherif well like theadmin said you CAN run exe files if you install wine .. but dont count on all programs being able to work..
[07:32] <sherif> theadmin but like last issue cant remove the folder in opt without terminal
[07:32] <rick_> hello im looking for ubuntu jedi to give me free 24/7 support instead of making this as hard as possible to break free of windows prison
[07:32] <Stanley00> krised: if that's old, how about install lubuntu? and it looks like window somehow
[07:32] <theadmin> sherif: Run "gksu nautilus" and then you'll have a filemanager with full access to all files. But that's somewhat... risky
[07:32] <krised> Stanley00 lubuntu ?? never heard of it but ill look at it.
[07:32] <Stanley00> rick_: I think this channel works 24/24
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: I say try Lubuntu too :) It looks like Windows 95-98-ish
[07:33] <rick_> 24/24????
[07:33] <sherif> krised theadmin cool actually i like using the terminal
[07:33] <krised> win 95 ?? yuuck
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: Except... not as ugly :P
[07:33] <Stanley00> rick_: I mean 24 hours a day :D
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: But I mean, by the style of GUIs and such
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: http://lubuntu.net
[07:33] <Angablade> 24/24 as in 24 hours a day. 24 days a week?
[07:33] <sherif> is there other terminals better than default one?
[07:34] <rick_> oh well it seems the real experts are not on very often
[07:34] <krised> sherif i learned linux from scratch.. having two computers.. one with a small harddrive and another with windows so i could google up stuff whenever i bootched my system and had to reinstall.. after reinstalling it like 2-300 times i got the hang of it.
[07:34] <krised> sherif there are about 1500 diffrent distros of linux.. give em a try.. just dont try suicidelinux untill youre really hardcore though
[07:35] <theadmin> lol suicidelinux
[07:35] <BrandonNolet> Wooow, love how the channels with the most users are the linux ones :P
[07:35] <theadmin> rick_: You just ask your question and we try to help
[07:35] <krised> theadmin yeah.. you dont know tha tone ?
[07:35] <Angablade> threads bleading all over the ram?
[07:35] <sherif> krised its ok i have windows 7 installed too if i destroyed ubuntu its ok
[07:35] <theadmin> krised: I know it, I would never try that xD
[07:35] <scientes> I plugged a few usb devices into my apple keyboard, and they show up with lsusb, however my user account (non-privlidged) does not see them
[07:35] <scientes> what is going on?
[07:35] <rick_> ok im trying to get debugging tool i typed in terminal  man apt get  and i dont know what to do next
[07:36] <theadmin> rick_: Debugging tool for what?
[07:36] <Stanley00> rick_: debug with gdb?
[07:36] <sherif> krised do u know how to make flash games work faster on ubuntu?
[07:36] <krised> sherif you might wanna try it inside a virtual machine.. also take a backup of your virtual machine so you can recover fast if it gets slaughtered.
[07:36] <rick_> yup gdb
[07:36] <Angablade> "sudo apt-get install <app name>
[07:36] <ubuntu23421> good morning
[07:36] <theadmin> rick_: sudo apt-get install gdb
[07:36] <krised> sherif hmm no. ive encounterd problems more like flash running too fast
[07:36] <i_is_broke> scientes, try going in as admin and adding them to the proper groups.
[07:36] <sherif> krised that seems complicated
[07:36] <scientes> i_is_broke, who to proper groups?
[07:36] <ubuntu23421> I have one question maybe very easy to solv
[07:37] <BrandonNolet> How to update from 11.10 to 12.04 without reinstall?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> scientes: What do you mean by "does not see them"? What type of USB devices, and where do you expect them to be listed?
[07:37] <Angablade> theadmin, btw the process is finished and I am now happy as a clam. You made my day.
[07:37] <Stanley00> !pangolin | BrandonNolet
[07:37] <theadmin> BrandonNolet: update-manager -d # But note that 12.04 is not released and not supported.
[07:37] <theadmin> Angablade: Aww thank you :D
[07:37] <ubuntu23421> help??
[07:37] <scientes> jordan, i_is_broke do i need to be part of "plugdev" group? this is 10.04
[07:37] <theadmin> ubuntu23421: Ask your question first.
[07:37] <BrandonNolet> I understand that it's not released and thanks for the info :)
[07:37] <i_is_broke> scientes, you have to add them (regular user) so they can use it.
[07:37] <Stanley00> ubuntu23421: just ask your question.
[07:37] <ubuntu23421> NOOB HERE
[07:38] <ubuntu23421> Ok
[07:38] <scientes> jordan, i_is_broke to what groups?
[07:38] <i_is_broke> scientes, yup
[07:38] <rick_> gdb is already newest version so i got it already?????
[07:38] <krised> sherif its not really. but let me tell you this. the more you use terminal and learn the various commands.. that and google when you need to do somthing you dont know.. then you get the hang of linux very fast actually
[07:38] <Stanley00> rick_: yep
[07:38] <scientes> i_is_broke, plugdev is the one?
[07:38] <ubuntu23421> i have a problem with the lcd of my laptop
[07:38] <scientes> thx, i will ask the administrator
[07:38] <Angablade> rick_, try uninstalling it then reinstalling it. That always worked for me.
[07:38] <theadmin> scientes: plugdev, scanner, audio and power are the groups you normally have to be in.
[07:38] <rick_> how do i use it???? where do i find it
[07:39] <theadmin> rick_: If you don't know how to use it why do you need it -_-
[07:39] <Stanley00> rick_: just run "gdb /path/to/yourapp"
[07:39] <i_is_broke> scientes, ya
[07:39] <sherif> krised yh i guess so my bro told me it all depends on terminal n someone here sent me a pdf files of commands so i will study :)
[07:39] <werder> ubuntu23421: what's wrong with it?
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> It's broke
[07:39] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, what seems to be the problem?
[07:39] <scientes> theadmin, power and scanner dont exist on this computer (10.04)
[07:39] <werder> ubuntu23421: so? Is is a cracked screen?
[07:39] <i_is_broke> theadmin, thanks its been a while since i have had to add a non user. lol
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> so i installed ubunto with an external lg lcd tv
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> it goes perfect
[07:39] <theadmin> scientes: Ah I guess Ubuntu differs from normal distros in here as well
[07:40] <rick_> i need to learn
[07:40] <ubuntu23421> but once i install drivers from nvidia
[07:40] <ubuntu23421> no picture is displayed on the tv monitor
[07:40] <scientes> theadmin, what do mean as "normal distros" debian and red hat worlds are differn't across the board
[07:40] <Stanley00> rick_: then, you should read the gdb manual on gnu.org
[07:40] <krised> sherif well you can do that.. but nothing beats learning by doing.. whenever you need to do somthing.. you can just about always do it in a terminal as well as in GUI mode.. just reading pfd with commands wont really teach you anything
[07:40] <theadmin> scientes: Most distros (Debian inclusive actually) have those groups, others do too (Arch, Gentoo etc) so...
[07:40] <werder> ubuntu23421: is it a laptop or desktop?
[07:41] <sherif> krised wut is GUI mode?
[07:41] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, try removing the cord and replacing it. It might just need to sence that the came is in. Then auto switch like alot of other tv's and cards to.
[07:41] <scientes> theadmin, yuck
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> laptop
[07:41] <theadmin> scientes: Huh?
[07:41] <scientes> that it would be differn't without a good reason
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> guyz
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> look