[11:25] <mouse> albator, try to kill X-session by ctrl-alt-del... may be re-started X should be fine.
[11:25] <albator> thx mouse
[11:26] <hkBst> chazco: becasue MSWord is a poorly specified format
[11:26] <mouse> albator, I have something similar under Qemu/VirtualBox.
[11:26] <chazco> It doesnt seem to be the file format (other extensions suffer the same)... i think its the fonts
[11:26] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to view a dvd on my old computer.  But when-ever their is cpu activity it's extremly jittery (loading a program or website).  Feisty and previous versions never had this problem.  Is there anyway to fix it?
[11:26] <bullgard4> hibernate.sh reports: "FATAL: Module acpi_sbs not found." What is the function of acpi_sbs?
[11:27] <hkBst> chazco: how do you know that? Does Word support any other formats?
[11:27] <chazco> Nope, but using other word processers it happens... e.g. Textmaker (supports odt, doc, tmd and more)
[11:29] <chazco> The trouble is uni work ends up looking totally wrong when the pagination is out (even indivudal paragraphs seem slightly out of place, and the word wrap changes)
[11:30] <albator> =s cant get the TTY anymore, gonna reboot and start again
[11:31] <malroy_> cześć
[11:31] <Vinconzo> hi
[11:31] <albator> it happened after the splash screens, I chose "start / install" then saw the ubuntu logo with a progress bar for ages, then a broken noise played then the blank X session
[11:31] <Onyx> Whew...
[11:31] <Onyx> I just spent like 3 hours organizing all the porn on my computer.
[11:31] <albator> XD
[11:31] <Cereal_> Goodmorning folks :) I have a little question here: I setup Conky yesterday. I gives me this error all the time: "Conky: statfs '/media/hda1': No such file or directory
[11:31] <Cereal_> ". Now obviously that's because my hda1 isn't in /media/hda1. But where is it then?
[11:31] <malroy_> znacie może jakiś kanał o grach - szukam jednego tytułu i potrzebuję  dużego zbiorowiska ludzi grających :)
[11:31] <malroy_> co by się podpytać
[11:31] <Ubuntubruger3> Hello. Doesn't compiz with the turning cube work in Kubuntu???
[11:31] <mouse> chazco, if you want correct pagination, use pre-press text processors like tetex. No one word-processor's format can guarantee same pagination/formatting under different word-processors. Did you try OpenOffice under windows?
[11:32] <Vinconzo> Onyx, legal porn, i presume?
[11:32] <chazco> I only have access to Word on windows (and textmaker)... I dont have much choice in the format either unfortunatly
[11:32] <mouse> albator, do you use i386 or x86_64 installation? Ubuntu? Kubuntu?
[11:32] <Onyx> Vinconzo: uhhh, of course -- all the chicks are of age :P
[11:33] <Cereal_> here: I setup Conky yesterday. I gives me this error all the time: "Conky: statfs '/media/hda1': No such file or directory
[11:33] <Cereal_>  ". Now obviously that's because my hda1 isn't in /media/hda1. But where is it then?
[11:33] <Ubuntubruger3> i386 ubuntu with Kubuntu added
[11:33] <Vinconzo> Onyx, ok. Just becouse you may not talk about illegal stuff in this channel ;)
[11:33] <chazco> mouse - whats puzzling as well is that Textmaker can use its own format... so you'd expect it to match (Win & Lin versions)... which it seems to do
[11:34] <Ubuntubruger3> Hello. Doesn't compiz with the turning cube work in Kubuntu???
[11:34] <Cereal_> Does anyone know where the hardrive's mounted?  Its works for me in Ubuntu...
[11:35] <rsk> sure it's possible
[11:35] <Jeff-Hardy> Hello guys :)
[11:35] <rsk> hai
[11:35] <mouse> Cereal_, if there are no such entries for your drive, it means that you need to mount it by hands.
[11:35] <Jeff-Hardy> Hello RSK
[11:36] <Cereal_> Mouse: Okay :) Thanks a lot :)
[11:36] <Jeff-Hardy> I just joined Ubuntu gang
[11:36] <Ubuntubruger3> rsk: How do you activate it in Kubuntu?
[11:36] <Vinconzo> Onyx, im not just talking abbout kiddieporn. im also talking about normal porn that's illegally downloaded. as in: not just bought from you local store
[11:36] <rsk> dont know
[11:36] <Jeff-Hardy> Can you please help me guys ?
[11:36] <mouse> chazco, Textmaker doesn't have the same formatting under Win / Lin?
[11:36] <Kalamansi> hello good evening.. im done downloading updates..install or apt-get install thing...now, my question is...how to copy all updates that ive downloaded to a cd?i have dvd attached or installed to my computer and i cant find any application in my system for burning...thanks
[11:36] <chazco> Textmaker does, unless using an MS font
[11:36] <mouse> Kalamansi, go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:37] <rsk> Jeff-Hardy: no we can't read minds
[11:37] <Ubuntubruger3> rsk: thx for helping so far
[11:37] <mouse> rsk :)
[11:37] <Onyx> Vinconzo: I'm a connoisseur... been ripping my DVDs for a while now :P
[11:37] <Jeff-Hardy> RSk can you please tell me hwo to install Nvidia drivers ?
[11:37] <Vinconzo> Onyx, ok
[11:37] <rsk> Jeff-Hardy: use the hardware manager
[11:37] <rsk> !nvidia
[11:38] <rsk> er. restricted drivers manager
[11:38] <Kalamansi> mouse : how to burn them in the cd?i have dvd ... i dont see any burning application here..thanks
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <Jeff-Hardy> I did
[11:38] <rsk> Kalamansi: use k3b or nero
[11:38] <Jeff-Hardy> I instaled correctly
[11:38] <Jeff-Hardy> But they keep crashing after restart
[11:38] <Jeff-Hardy> X Server <GUI> wont load
[11:38] <mouse> Kalamansi, try cdrecord to burn CD. and mkisofs to create ISO-image from files. The command should be like that: mkisofs -J -l -r -V 'My archive' /var/cache/apt/archives | cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw -data -
[11:39] <Jeff-Hardy> I reinstalled 4 times  today alone :(
[11:40] <Kalamansi> mouse: first install apt-get install cdrecord?
[11:41] <mouse> Kalamansi, first means to create iso-image and write it to standard output. Using pipe ("|") we are catching input data and pass it to cdrecord program. You can split this operations into two steps.
[11:41] <mouse> Kalamansi, yes, apt-get install cdrecord mkisofs
[11:41] <mouse> I thought, that it should be already installed.
[11:42] <eth01> i've got an interface named dummy0? (wtf.)
[11:43] <hkBst> eth01: read about it in your kernel docs?
[11:43] <eth01> idk
[11:43] <eth01> whys it showing anyway?
[11:43] <fenrig> how do i boot gdm from the live cd from a terminal (tty2)
[11:43] <hkBst> eth01: becasue of how the kernel was configured
[11:44] <Ryuho> Tremulous, Nexuiz or Sauerbaten?
[11:44] <albator> well rebooted an ran the disk check, faults found in files so i guess ill reburn :)
[11:44] <hkBst> Ryuho: yes :)
[11:44] <Ryuho> i'm asking which one
[11:46] <Kalamansi> mouse : http://pastebin.com/m2e9ee96f
[11:48] <Rost> 7ã
[11:48] <paritosh1010> I am getting a grub error 17 while trying to boot from an external usb drive
[11:49] <BernardB> What's the difference between VNC and RDPv5?
[11:50] <mouse> BernardB, RDP is an M$ protocol that supports device tunneling.
[11:50] <BernardB> mouse, is it possible to connect with a Windows XP system via the Terminal Server Client?
[11:51] <Rost> ËÎÕÈ
[11:51] <Rost> )
[11:51] <BernardB> (I've got Gutsy)
[11:51] <mouse> BernardB, use rdesktop
[11:52] <mouse> you may install gnome-rdp or use command-line version: rdesktop
[11:52] <Jordan_U> mouse, Out of curiosity, does rdesktop support the device tunneling features?
[11:53] <BB88> How can I make a program start up on system start up?
[11:53] <mouse> Jordan_U, Partially.
[11:53] <BernardB> mouse, with what command can I connect?
[11:53] <paritosh1010_> I am getting grub error 17 when i try to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive.
[11:53] <mouse> BB88, system startup or X-session?
[11:54] <BB88> mouse: Where are these located? I just want AWN to start up when Ubuntu starts.
[11:54] <Jordan_U> BB88, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[11:54] <ricanelite757> why when i drag the icons to the desktop they are so small?
[11:55] <mouse> BernardB, rdesktop -u USERNAME server    just see rdesktop -h for options
[11:55] <^root^> Is there a nice ftp client for Ubuntu? i tried gftp, it crashes, and kasablanca ask for confirmation on every file, ...
[11:55] <BB88> Jordan_U: Ok, thank you.
[11:56] <Jordan_U> ^root^, Konqueror isn't bad if you don't mind all of the KDE dependencies
[11:56] <^root^> Jordan_U, i dont like KDE :(
[11:57] <Jordan_U> ^root^, Do you mind KDE applications though?
[11:57] <ubuntu> holaaaa
[11:57] <Jordan_U> !ftp | ^root^
[11:57] <ubotu> ^root^: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[11:57] <rhetoric> Hi I'm having a very strange problem my Audiophile 2496 card is recognized and "Test" works under Prefs->Sound but no sound works in any application (Gutsy intel) anyone?
[11:57] <oldboy> Hello Guys
[11:57] <Sonja> is there a file browser that offers more options on how to view the files?
[11:57] <Sonja> list, thumbnails, etc. etc.
[11:58] <Sonja> or is teh default one in ubuntu able to do everything?
[11:58] <oldboy> Does anybody know a program like eMule for linux?
[11:58] <Jordan_U> oldboy, amule
[11:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, yup, i don't like that blue color...
[11:58] <mouse> oldboy, xmule
[11:58] <bullgard4> rhetoric: You problem is not so strange. his happens quite often. Try to obtain an error message so that people can analyze your system and help you.
[11:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, how to use Nautilus for FTP?
[11:59] <etfb> rhetoric: I had similar probs in Edgy and solved it by explicitly selecting the appropriate sound driver in each program, or something.  It was ages ago, so I don't know the details, but the gist of it is that some software guesses the wrong thing when it comes to communicating with Linux's sound system.
[11:59] <ricanelite757> why when i drag my icons from the menus to the desktop they are small
[11:59]  * mouse use lftp as ftp client
[11:59] <rhetoric> maybe disabling the onboard sound on my mobo would help?
[11:59] <kane77> ^root^, and what about filezilla?
[11:59] <oldboy> I didnt know it was so simple?
[11:59] <Jordan_U> ^root^, Places -> Connect to server
[11:59] <etfb> Sonja: I find Konqueror is far superior to the Gutsy default of Dolphin or whatever it's called.
[11:59] <^root^> kane77, does filezilla support extracting files?
[12:00] <rhetoric> etfb, how did you explicitly select the driver?
[12:01] <etfb> rhetoric: Oh gods, this was ages ago.  In some programs it's an option in preferences.  But I don't know if it really matches your problem.  I second what bullgard4 wrote.
[12:01] <Jordan_U> rhetoric, does "aplay < /dev/urandom" produce white noise?
[12:01] <kane77> ^root^, dunno.. I just use it because I'm not too keen on kde apps....
[12:01] <rhetoric> Jordan_U, nope nothing
[12:02] <etfb> kane77: Just out of curiosity, what do you dislike about KDE?  I used to use Gnome and hated it; I'm a staunch Kubuntu user now.
[12:02] <Jordan_U> !sound | rhetoric
[12:02] <ubotu> rhetoric: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:02] <^root^> Jordan_U, i tried to connect, it didnt asked for password and havent shown anything till now...
[12:02] <gvsa123> can anyone clear up the difference between owners and groups? is there a hierarchy?
[12:02] <etfb> Ah, ubotu, you're a fount of knowledge.  How can one bot be so wise?
[12:02] <Jordan_U> ^root^, You have to choose FTP with login rather than "public FTP"
[12:03] <^root^> oh okay...
[12:03] <riccardo> hi all
[12:03] <kane77> gvsa123, you have users and groups.. in permissions you have access by the owner, group and others..
[12:03] <Jordan_U> !hi | riccardo
[12:03] <ubotu> riccardo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:03] <bullgard4> gvsa123: Basically, each file may either belong to an owner, a group and the rest of the world, or not.
[12:03] <rhetoric> Jordan_U, however, Preference>Sound>Test produces a beep, and yes I've been googling and reading forums for several hours now
[12:04] <Jordan_U> rhetoric, My guess is that for whatever reason you have things set to use OSS, and only the sound test recognizes that ( but you should be using ALSA anyway )
[12:05] <gvsa123> kane77: oh that adds to the confusion... lol... for example, how come i am not part of my own group by default?
[12:05] <ice109> can someone help me, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't working for me
[12:05] <rhetoric> how might I set things back to alsa
[12:05] <Jordan_U> rhetoric, That or sound is just being sent to the wrong channel
[12:05] <Jordan_U> rhetoric, See the message from ubotu
[12:05] <etfb> ice109: Stupid question #1: are you using sudo?
[12:05] <ice109> etfb of course
[12:05] <ice109> what i mean is that it's not configuring it for me correctly
[12:06] <Veyron> i searh a list server irc. for my client irc
[12:06] <paritosh1010_> anybody can give me insights on running ubuntu from an external USB DRIVE??
[12:06] <etfb> ice109: Well, had to ask.  It's one of those things you can take for granted and then everything else goes screwy.
[12:06] <Jordan_U> ice109, In what way?
[12:06] <gvsa123> bullgard4: so if you are part of either owner or group, you can access depending on permissions? such that a non-owner but group member may have equal permissions to a file? and owners but non-group members may also have the same permissions?
[12:06] <ice109> Jordan_U xwindows doesn't launch
[12:06] <MrSunshine_> and what have ubuntu done with xchat? .. looks totaly ****arded :/
[12:06] <Jordan_U> ice109, What version of Ubuntu?
[12:07] <ice109> well it's xubuntu 7.04
[12:07] <^root^> Jordan_U, i am connected using nautilus, i deleted some files, and its been years since its preparing to delete the files
[12:07] <kane77> gvsa123, hmm.. well maybe because you don't need to be part of that group, as you will have access to the files because they belong to you...
[12:07] <Jordan_U> MrSunshine_, Remove xchat-gnome, install xchat :)
[12:07] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: does your bios support usb boot?
[12:08] <fsanlu> how is ndiswrapper in comparison to enabled firmware. and has anyone been successful with it in a 64 machine?
[12:08] <Jordan_U> fsanlu, Broadcom card I assume?
[12:08] <ice109> i'm actually in a livecd right now, anyway i can configure xorg correctly from here?
[12:08] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: well..i installed the bootloader on the usb drive. now the bootloader loads, but when i try to boot, it says "Grub error 17: cannot mount selected parittion"
[12:08] <gvsa123> kane77: i am the owner so i don't need to be part of my group... but groups can be set to have the same permissions as the owners right? such as 0777
[12:08] <fsanlu> Jordan_U, yah its cutting me off frequently
[12:09] <crush_groove> gvsa123, yes
[12:09] <Jordan_U> ice109, Yes, if the LiveCD is working then mount your Ubuntu partition and you can copy the xorg.conf from your liveCD session to your installed system
[12:09] <ice109> hmm
[12:09] <ice109> Jordan_U good idea
[12:09] <Jordan_U> fsanlu, What chipset version?
[12:09] <ice109> but i'm running knoppix
[12:09] <ice109> does that translate well?
[12:09] <fsanlu> Jordan_U bcm94311 rev 01
[12:09] <Jordan_U> ice109, Most likely it will
[12:09] <ice109> where is xorg again?
[12:10] <gvsa123> crush_groove: kane77: and it is also possible that groups have permissions that owners do not? like 0177?
[12:10] <Jordan_U> ice109, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: any idea mate?
[12:10] <crush_groove> gvsa123, yes
[12:10] <Jordan_U> gvsa123, Yes
[12:10] <crush_groove> gvsa123, chmod --help
[12:10] <Novalty> hi, im new to ubuntu, how do i install software repositries
[12:10] <crush_groove> gvsa123, chgrp --help too
[12:10] <brobostigon> happy lunch time
[12:11] <Sonja> konqueror eh?
[12:11] <gvsa123> crush_groove: ah yes... you tend to forget about that file often.. :)
[12:11] <Jordan_U> Novalty, What repository are you trying to add?
[12:11] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: what filetype is the usb drive formatted ?
[12:11] <Sonja> isnt that also a web broser?
[12:11] <Jordan_U> Sonja, Yes
[12:11] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: the linux partition is ext3
[12:11] <fsanlu> Jordan_U i looked at the wiki, and currently states not updated whether works for 64.. so yah had to confirm it with people first
[12:11] <fsanlu> argh got d/c'd again.
[12:11] <Sonja> i can set it up to be my file manager/viewer only
[12:12] <Sonja> and firefox for web?
[12:12] <Jordan_U> Sonja, Yes
[12:12] <Sonja> woot
[12:12] <etfb> Sonja: In Kubuntu (and KDE in general) it's the default file manager, much as Internet Explorer (disguised as Windows Explorer) is the file manager in another operating system whose name I forget.
[12:12] <Novalty> Whats a common one, where i can get some audio software? I dont know much about it. Sorry champ
[12:12] <antixpaul> I think those usb images are meant to be fat paritosh1010_
[12:12] <fsanlu> Jordan_U im not sure if u got my reply (i got d/c again), i have a bcm94311 rev 01. i was just wondering if people had succesfully done it for 64 bit.
[12:12] <etfb> Sonja: But you can use it in Gnome, XFce, etc.
[12:12] <Sonja> ok thanks
[12:13] <Jordan_U> Sonja, But don't mistake, konq is not hooked deeply into the OS like IE, it's very modular and simply calls KDE libraries when needed
[12:13] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: its an external hard disk. not a pen drive? i created an ext3 partition on it.
[12:14] <Sonja> thanks
[12:14] <Sonja> how do i tell ubuntu to use such a program for this, and such a program for that
[12:14] <Sonja> e.g. open all audio files with exaile and notheing else
[12:15] <Sonja> by default upon double click
[12:15] <bullgard4> gvsa123: You need to be more precise about 'permissions'. Usually, when people speak about 'permissions' they mean the set of permission to user, to group and to the rest of the world. Permissions of the type you are speaking of are given to files, not to persons. If a file xyz.doc has write permissions to the owner and a group 'abc', then the owner and all members of the group 'abc' will have the equal right to write to the file 'xyz.doc'
[12:15] <vega--> can i download security updates and other updates manually from somewhere? ie. is there a list of updates somewhere with download links
[12:15] <vega--> for example 7 days back
[12:16] <gvsa123> crush_groove: hmmm... i'm not even sure my question is clear to me... lol... so there's really no big difference if you are an owner or part of group, so long as they have the same set of permissions? such that groups may actually have greater permissions than the actual owner of the file
[12:16] <etfb> Sonja: In Konq, that's an option in a menu somewhere.  Let me see if I can find it for you...
[12:17] <Jordan_U> vega--, packages.ubuntu.com sort of, also...
[12:17] <Sonja> oh so i can use konq to define my perferred programs defaults?
[12:17] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: ahh I see, so you just used a normal install cd to install onto the external usb drive?
[12:17] <Sonja> sweet
[12:17] <Jordan_U> !offline | etfb
[12:17] <ubotu> etfb: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[12:17] <Sonja> im glad i switched to ubuntu this week
[12:17] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: yes
[12:17] <Sonja> from winxp
[12:17] <Sonja> its a very flexible system it seems
[12:17] <naxa> how can I renamy
[12:17] <naxa> how can i rename my computer?
[12:18] <Pici> !hostname
[12:18] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[12:18] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: have you tried booting manually from the grub command line?
[12:18] <etfb> Jordan_U: Given that your comment just then was somewhat non-sequiturish, do I take it you're suggesting Sonja and I "get a room", so to speak, and take this to private chat?  Or are you making a point that I'm too sleepy to figure out?
[12:18] <gvsa123> bullgard4: i'll try to be clear... permissions (read, write, exec) refers to what can be done to a file by a user? while groups can also be set to only have exec permissions?
[12:18] <Kalamansi> i cannot believe it. mouse is a great guy
[12:18] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: no
[12:18] <naxa> thank you
[12:19] <ullis> Sonja: I hope you'll come to like it so much that you'll keep using it. I switched a while back and I love it.
[12:19] <etfb> Sonja: In Konqueror, it's Tools | Configure Konqueror | File Associations, then pick the MIME type (you may have to guess a bit) and move items up and down the meny to put your preferred default at the top.
[12:19] <Jordan_U> etfb, !whatever is a message to the channel bot to display the message that goes with "whatever", "!offline" gives a message about installing packages without an internet connection :)
[12:20] <etfb> Sonja: Getting it to open with double-click instead of single is also an option in there somewhere.
[12:20] <etfb> Jordan_U: Yes, I know - I was just wondering why you sent it to me...
[12:20] <bullgard4> gvsa123: Yes, permissions permissions (read, write, exec) refers to what can be done to a file. It can be separately set to the ownder, the group and the rest of the world.
[12:20] <Jordan_U> etfb, Because you aren't the only one that's tired :)
[12:20] <etfb> Jordan_U: I forgive you, my child.  Go now, and do not sin again.
[12:21] <Jordan_U> !offline | vega--
[12:21] <ubotu> vega--: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[12:21] <bastid_raZor> heh
[12:21] <naxa> thanks :)
[12:21] <vega--> what i'm looking for is a chronilogical list of updates with download links included, so i could easily get the updates from the last 7 days for instance
[12:21] <etfb> Jordan_U: Hey, now I think of it, that's actually useful.  I could have used that a week or two ago!
[12:22] <Sonja> get a room?
[12:22] <beni__> Is Jabber still included in the latest Pidgin version? I can't find it!
[12:22] <Sonja> i dont understant hta comment
[12:22] <gvsa123> bullgard4: and giving permissions or privileges to groups is different from that because you give/limit the group and not the files?
[12:22] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: when grub first pops up press c to get to the command line then type 'root (scd0,x)' where x is your usb drive
[12:22] <Jordan_U> vega--, I don't know if such a list exists ( though if for anything it would exist for security updates )
[12:22] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: ok
[12:22] <Jordan_U> etfb, Then it was all part of my master plan :)
[12:23] <brobostigon> beni_: jabber is also called xmpp
[12:23] <vega--> also, has there been any updates lately that has caused networking problems? some major issues?
[12:23] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: then if it mounts kernel <path to kernel>
[12:23] <vega--> Jordan_U: suspected that too
[12:23] <beni__> brobostigon, okay thank you very much :) Why does it have two names?
[12:23] <antixpaul> paritosh1010_: then 'boot'
[12:23] <paritosh1010_> ok
[12:23] <gvsa123> bullgard4: so once you set that a group is only allowed to execute and no read and write, that's all they can ever do? they cannot even make their own files?
[12:23] <paritosh1010_> antixpaul: ill try that
[12:23] <brobostigon> beni_: no idea
[12:24] <Jordan_U> vega--, Looks like there is: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[12:24] <bullgard4> gvsa123: No.  giving permissions or privileges to groups is not different to giving permissions/privileges to the owner. To limit or define the size of the group is another (a separate) matter.
[12:24] <etfb> Sonja: I'll show you.    When Jordan_U sent "!offline", I deduced his thought processes as "these two are talking in depth about one topic in a busy channel, I'll send them the info on how to take the chat offline (ie to private chat) to reduce clutter".
[12:26] <gvsa123> bullgard4: i see the file permissions already.. i hope... what about the difference between users and groups mentioned a while ago?
[12:26] <etfb> Sonja: When really he meant "I need more sleep or more caffeine".
[12:26] <Sonja> i think our covo was on topic though
[12:26] <vega--> Jordan_U: and the list archive has download links conveniently, thanks!
[12:26] <Jordan_U> vega--, np
[12:27] <bullgard4> gvsa123: The basic thing is a particular file. You will entitle a group to execute certain rights for that file. Later, you can create another file. And here again, you can entitle the same group the same rights to that second file, if you wish so. Or do ist differently with the second file.
[12:27] <bullgard4> it
[12:27] <Jordan_U> vega--, What do you need it for out of curiosity?
[12:28] <etfb> Sonja: That's why I was confused.  Never mind, it's all sorted now.
[12:28] <bullgard4> gvsa123: Be more specific with your question: "what about the difference between users and groups mentioned a while ago?" please.
[12:29] <gvsa123> bullgard4: okay... i'll try to translate this in writing...
[12:29] <etfb> Sonja: Incidentally, are you using Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or something else?  Is Konq a good fit, or do you prefer something else?  I find Gnome too plasticy for my tastes; KDE gives you lots of options to reconfigure things.
[12:29] <Sonja> ubuntu no K
[12:30] <Sonja> is therea gnomy equivalent to konq for fire management and file viewing?
[12:30] <Sonja> file
[12:30] <antixpaul> etfb: there's the added bonus of kde being purty
[12:30] <bazhang> nautilus Sonja
[12:31] <etfb> antixpaul: I think so too, although I can understand arguments on both sides.  Gnome seems smoother; I just don't like smooth.
[12:32] <naxa> i cannot enable anything in compiz settings manager! for example if i enable animations, in the next moments compiz disables it.
[12:32] <crush_groove> can I remove kaffeine?
[12:32] <gvsa123> bullgard4: example... you set chmod 0770 to file abc so that you can limit who can rwx it. when you want to give users rwx to file abc, you add them to the group that owns file abc? (this is probably not making sense :) )
[12:32] <zipper> I have a logitech mx518 usb mouse. It has a "+" and "-" button for DPI increase/decrease. I want to remap these buttons to pageUP and pageDOWN. Every other button works with Device evdev in xorg.conf. What to do?
[12:33] <Sonja> ubuntu doesnt start with nautilus?
[12:33] <Sonja> what is ubuntus default fine manager viewer
[12:33] <astro76> zipper, can't, they just switch DPI
[12:33] <antixpaul> etfb: yeah it used to bug me that it reminded me of macs... and I stuck to gnome for aaaages, but I recently installed kubuntu and once I was done configuring kde I don't think I'll go back ^^
[12:33] <rbs-tito> Sonja: Nautilus
[12:33] <crush_groove> Sonja,  mine 7.10 has dolphin
[12:33] <naxa> i have to go for a min now
[12:34] <zipper> astro76: with the windows logitech drivers, it's possible. Wondered if the same thing was possible in linux, disable the hardware-dpi changing, and just use it as a regular button.
[12:35] <etfb> antixpaul: That could be the Stockholm Syndrome, of course (ie you get kidnapped by terrorists (or a windowing system), and you come to love and respect them (it) despite their violence (its bugs and confusing UI).
[12:35] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:35] <antixpaul> ahahaha
[12:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:35] <bazhang> etfb: haha
[12:35] <bazhang> oops sorry
[12:35] <astro76> zipper, it's not currently possible, xev shows nothing when you press those buttons
[12:36] <astro76> zipper, maybe a custom driver, which is quite silly to be necessary for a mouse ;)
[12:36]  * etfb thinks two "haha"s and an "!offtopic" pretty much even out, all things considered.
[12:37] <gvsa123> bullgard4: i'll see what i can get out of google first and hopefully get enlightened... :) thanks for the explanations though...
[12:38] <etfb> crush_groove, Sonja: Dolphin (more properly D3lphin, apparently) is the default for Kubuntu 7.10.  Before that, the default was Konqueror.  I spent a week with Dolphin and changed the default back, because it's braindead.
[12:39] <dave81> other than wine is there any other programs i can run win apps on?
[12:39] <astro76> dave81, virtual machines
[12:39] <bazhang> dave81: cedega
[12:39] <etfb> dave81: VMWare Server is now free, and you can install any x86 OS (including Windows) in it and run it happily.  It's astonishingly good.
[12:39] <astro76> !vm | dave81
[12:39] <ubotu> dave81: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[12:39] <zipper> astro76: hmpf, and a custom driver is probably kindda tricky to make due to the closed nature of the mouse.... Thanks
[12:40] <astro76> zipper, indeed, probably Logitech is not forthcoming with specs
[12:40]  * etfb wonders if this will be up to date:
[12:40] <etfb> !vmware
[12:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:40] <Sonja> what date is the next big ubuntu upgrade?
[12:40] <dave81> thank you all
[12:40] <astro76> !hardy | Sonja
[12:40] <ubotu> Sonja: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:40] <Sonja> neat
[12:40] <Pici> Sonja: Every 6 months.
[12:40] <Sonja> i hope i can play Spore on ubuntu
[12:41] <Sonja> i have dual boot anyway
[12:41] <Sonja> is Illegal Iguana next?
[12:41] <bazhang> offtopic Sonja though funny
[12:42] <Sonja> who picks teh names?
[12:42] <Sonja> is my question
[12:42] <Sonja> or is there a vote
[12:42] <bazhang> !names
[12:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:42] <ricanelite757> how come my icons are small on my desktop? I'm usiong gnome
[12:42] <Stupid^Kid> hello, what does the variable $@ refers to in bash
[12:42]  * etfb loves ubotu.  Ubotu is teh clevar.
[12:43] <etfb> Stupid^Kid: There's a brilliant Bash tutorial kicking around.  I printed it out and learned huge amounts.  Do you want me to find it for you?
[12:43] <crush_groove>  I do etfb
[12:43] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/ the man commands for bash
[12:43] <Sonja> im waiting for Nerdy Narwhal :)
[12:44] <zipper> astro76: annoying....so there is basicly nothing i can do?
[12:44] <etfb> No sooner said than done, crush_groove: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:44] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[12:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:44] <Pici> Stupid^Kid: Its all of the arguments at once.
[12:44] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: oh, thank you
[12:44] <Stupid^Kid> Pici: but $*
[12:45] <astro76> zipper, even the mx510 which those buttons output something, they behave weird to make them unusable
[12:45] <etfb> Stupid^Kid: Ah, Pici is right.  So if your script named "foo" contained the line "bar $@" and you called it with "foo x y z", it would call "bar x y z" for you.
[12:45] <Pici> Stupid^Kid: Theres a difference, which I don't remember.
[12:45] <etfb> Stupid^Kid, Pici: That's definitely covered in the link I gave you, and it's related to the handling of quotes around args in some weird way...
[12:46] <ateo> hi
[12:46] <bazhang> hi ateo
[12:47] <oracolo> ciao
[12:47] <zipper> astro76: i've found a button that DOES show an input in xev. How do i remap that button to actually do something?
[12:47] <ateo> im choosin an Ubuntu notebook but its not easy
[12:47] <bazhang> hi oracolo
[12:47] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: but i did find any link?
[12:47] <ateo> ciao
[12:48] <bazhang> ateo: pre-installed?
[12:48] <etfb> Stupid^Kid: Hmmm?  I don't understand the question.
[12:48] <ateo> no Vista erase
[12:48] <wers> i'm trying to make my ubuntu as light as I can. what modules or processes can I deactivate? :D
[12:48] <Sonja> do you guys like exaile?
[12:48] <Sonja> its amaork for gnome
[12:48] <bazhang> ateo: try to get something well supported in the wireless dept; intel for example
[12:48] <etfb> wers: Might be worth considering a switch to Xubuntu if you want light-weight.  Linux can be pretty monolithic.
[12:48] <ateo> i like exaile
[12:49] <Sonja> i'm translating it to Esperanto
[12:49] <bazhang> ateo: why not join #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have some support channel questions that is
[12:50] <astro76> !mouse | zipper, sorry off to work, start with the many mouse button howto
[12:50] <wers> etfb, i am not considering using any other DE anymore. I want the solidness of ubuntu. i just want to make it as light as it can
[12:50] <ubotu> zipper, sorry off to work, start with the many mouse button howto: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:50] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: oh sorry , maybe my expression make me wrong , hehe , i exactly want know the different between $@ and $*
[12:50] <wers> i'm using xfwm4 now, btw
[12:50] <Jordan_U> etfb, How can Linux be very monolithic, unless you are talking about the kernel itself?
[12:50] <Pici> Indeed, this channel is for support only.
[12:50] <zipper> astro76: thanks, i will
[12:50] <etfb> Sonja: Cu vi palas Esperanton?  You must be one of a dozen people left in the world.    I don't think "light and breezy" is the Ubuntu way, somehow...
[12:51] <Pici> !offtopic | etfb Jordan_U
[12:51] <ubotu> etfb Jordan_U: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:51] <Pici> Stupid^Kid: Perhaps you should either read the link that you were given or ask in #bash (they know this stuff better)
[12:51] <parityflag> unm
[12:51] <parityflag> uhm
[12:51] <etfb> Pici: You're sailing close to the edge of reasonable there, I think.
[12:52] <parityflag> where can I find the man pages... for system / glibc  functions?
[12:52] <parityflag> like
[12:52] <parityflag> man 3 open
[12:52] <Pici> parityflag: install the manpages-dev package
[12:52] <parityflag> ok thanks ;)
[12:52] <antixpaul> wers you'd definitely be better off installing a minimal distro and building up what you need, there was a thread on the forums about minimal distros... fluxbuntu is the first that comes to mind
[12:54] <brobostigon> wers: maybe geubuntu/enlightenment
[12:54] <dm> Hello. I have a usb webcam 0c45:602c which is supported by the ubuntu included gspca driver. When plugging it in the driver is loaded (say dmesg and lsmod) and /dev/video0 is created. But I get error messages when trying to use it: xawtv says "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode", camorama "Could not connect to /dev/video0". It's an ATI video card (if that matters). Any idea?
[12:54] <bazhang> !minimal | wers
[12:54] <ubotu> wers: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:54] <etfb> Dang - someone did a !-command and it mentioned something I planned to bookmark, but I closed the window by accident and now can't remember what it was... bother.
[12:54] <wers> no geubuntu for me, brobostigon. I only go for the mission critical
[12:55] <Stupid^Kid> Pici: maybe i need to find a tutorial and learn from the very beginning ,  thank you, man!
[12:55] <Guest16155> hello, before few month i tryed to install ubuntu desktop and the installation procces got stuck all the time . then someone here told me to press f6 on the start of the installation and add someting with the word "generic" and it solve the problem. now i want to install again but i cant remember what i should add ?
[12:55] <zylmak> hello does anyone know ho to clear the apache cache?
[12:55] <Sonja> etfb thats a very ignorant comment
[12:55] <bazhang> Guest16155: the live cd or the alternate cd
[12:55] <Sonja> 2 million ppl speak esperanto
[12:55] <Guest16155> live cd
[12:55] <etfb> Stupid^Kid: The http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ tutorial really is good, and the other one someone mentioned at http://www.ss64.com/bash/ looks pretty good too.
[12:55] <Sonja> that's way more than icelandic
[12:55] <Sonja> and way more than klingon
[12:55] <Guest16155> bazhang: live cd
[12:56] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: hi , i wonder the bash tutorial you just told me ,please give me some advice!
[12:56] <Pici> Sonja: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[12:56] <bazhang> Stupid^Kid: google bash tutorial first link
[12:56] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: ah ,haha ,i appreciate your help very much ,en
[12:56] <Jordan_U> !offline > etfb
[12:58] <^root^> Hi! i am using gutsy and i can't do a ssh localhost, though ssh server and client both are installed
[12:58] <Jordan_U> ^root^, What error do you get, and can you ssh remotely?
[12:58] <ateo> what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu??
[12:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[12:59] <ateo> what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu??
[12:59] <Pici> ateo: Works great, see http://www.thinkwiki.org for more info
[12:59] <brobostigon> ateo: n o idea
[12:59] <Guest16155> bazhang: can you help me ? (i need to add someting when i press "f6" on the installation and adding "all generic" someting like this)
[13:00] <Pici> Guest16155: all-generic-ide ?
[13:00] <BuFF> ^root^: i hink u need to enable system->preference->remote desktop
[13:00] <Guest16155> yes
[13:00] <Pici> BuFF: Thats not for ssh, only for vnc.
[13:00] <Guest16155> Pici: should i type the words with "-" ?
[13:01] <Pici> Guest16155: Yes.
[13:01] <koko____> hi, if i try to start x not in recovery mode, ubuntu hungs and i only have the shell screen with only the cursor ...
[13:01] <Stupid^Kid> etfb: oh, i find it $@ Same as $*, except when double-quoted ("$@") collectively references all the positional parameters as "$1", "$2", ...
[13:01] <Pici> ^root^: Have you changed your hostname recently?
[13:01]  * etfb should go to bed before he turns into a pumpkin.
[13:01] <rbs-tito> koko____: What graphics device are you using?
[13:01] <Stupid^Kid> haha, so dis ni
[13:01] <^root^> BuFF, Pici, no to both questions
[13:01] <etfb> Stupid^Kid: Well done!  I'll remember that one myself, I hope...
[13:01] <koko____> rbs-tito nvidia
[13:01] <koko____> 6100
[13:02] <Jordan_U> koko____, You should not start X in recovery ( single user ) mode
[13:02] <rbs-tito> koko____: Could you run the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the output to www.pastebin.org ?
[13:02] <Stupid^Kid> oh sorry , i type something wrong whereas my thought just think in japanese way,haha
[13:02] <Jordan_U> koko____, I assume it also does not work when you boot normally?
[13:03] <rbs-tito> Jordan_U: Yes, he said it only works in recovery
[13:03] <koko____> rbs-tito i do not think it is the xorg, i tried a lot of configurations, anyway i am not in that machine right now ...
[13:03] <theunixgeek> how do I add my name to the sudoers file?
[13:03] <Myrtti> sudo adduser myname admin
[13:03] <theunixgeek> !sudoers
[13:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:03] <theunixgeek> Myrtti: thanks :)
[13:04] <rbs-tito> koko____: Well, you could try in the device section of xorf changing the driver to "nvidia" or "vesa", then getting the new nvidia drivers from envy
[13:04] <koko____> may be compiz and xorg i read a lot in internet , may be if i disable compiz, but i want compiz
[13:04] <koko____> i tried vesa too
[13:04] <rbs-tito> koko____: Sorry, not "nvidia" use "nv"
[13:04] <koko____> didnt work
[13:04] <theunixgeek> Myrtti: adduser command doesn't exist :(
[13:04] <koko____> and nv ...
[13:04] <Myrtti> theunixgeek: that of course needs someone running the system having sudo rights already
[13:04] <rbs-tito> koko____: Try downloading envy in recovery mode
[13:04] <Phophos> Hi there all, I've lost sound from my main speakers, the oddity being that I can still get it through my front headphones. There doesn't look to be an alsamixer-related problem or a cable problem, so I'm a little confused - any advice?
[13:04] <Myrtti> theunixgeek: you're kidding?
[13:04] <koko____> what you mean download envy ...
[13:05] <Myrtti> envy?
[13:05] <theunixgeek> Myrtti: nope :P
[13:05] <Pici> !envy | koko____ rbs-tito
[13:05] <ubotu> koko____ rbs-tito: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:05] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[13:05] <wers> the "locate" code doesnt show hidden files. how do I make it show them?
[13:05] <rbs-tito> Pici: Depending on how old his device is of course
[13:05] <rbs-tito> koko____: Which NVIDIA card are you usin?
[13:05] <koko____> 6100
[13:05] <rbs-tito> ooh
[13:05] <sharyari> need help with sound in gutsy here.. and I've checked google with no luck
[13:05] <rbs-tito> koko____: Is this a clean install?
[13:06] <koko____> rbs-tito that i tried to in a clean install is ok until first reboot ...
[13:06] <koko____> i think the problem is compiz
[13:06] <koko____> this is since gutsy
[13:06] <koko____> because it has by default compiz
[13:06] <koko____> no problem with feisty
[13:06] <rbs-tito> koko____: Why don't you remove compiz?
[13:06] <koko____> but i do  not want it
[13:07] <koko____> rbs-tito may be the solution, but i like compiz ...
[13:07] <koko____> i think it is a bug
[13:07] <koko____> i posted in launchpad
[13:07] <koko____> but like a month ago, still waiting ...
[13:07] <antixpaul> koko____: remove compiz and install the proprietry nvidia drivers, then once it's all set up try installing compiz again
[13:09] <koko____> antixpaul , i did
[13:09] <krim_> I have a question about Gajim, the jabber client. In the chat window the contacts' names are black, but green when they're writing something. Sometimes it turns blue. What does that mean?
[13:10] <invit> tooty
[13:11] <invit> comment installer un pilote
[13:11] <brobostigon> !fr : invit
[13:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr : invit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:12] <brobostigon> :fr | invit
[13:13] <brobostigon> !fr | invit
[13:13] <ubotu> invit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:14] <cybe> hallo zusammen
[13:14] <cybe> ist hier zufällig gemand der sich mit der installation von Hamachi auskennt ?
[13:14] <rbs-tito> !de | cybe
[13:14] <ubotu> cybe: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:14] <GHOST> is anyone know the channel for fedora plz?
[13:14] <tim___> I've got an interesting one...  Installing Ubuntu 7.10 server in a VM (using VMware Server 1.x on Ubuntu 7.10 on a dual-quad-core opteron box), half way through 'installing base system' I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources".  Among the chatter on VT4 is this line: "info: kernel linux-server not usable on 486"
[13:15] <rbs-tito> GHOST: #fedora
[13:15] <GHOST> i cant join
[13:15] <rbs-tito> GHOST: /join #fedora
[13:15] <bazhang> !register | GHOST
[13:15] <ubotu> GHOST: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[13:15] <bazhang> GHOST: need to register for that channel
[13:15] <GHOST> rbs-tito ok thank u
[13:16] <dm> When I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK  \n  type: v4l2  \n  name: SN9C1xx PC Camera  \n  flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". What's the problem here?
[13:16] <yavor1912> join #bglinux
[13:16] <rbs-tito> yavor1912: You missed the / ;)
[13:16] <GHOST> hey :)
[13:16] <dm> s/but when/but then/
[13:17] <abhi> stangely
[13:18] <ateo> what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu??
[13:18] <ateo> its a good choice?
[13:18] <bazhang> ateo: that would rock
[13:18] <bazhang> ateo: the main concern is the wireless--get the intel if possible
[13:19] <kop> i got ubuntu 7.10 when i try to boot using that my monitor shows sync out of range message what to do now??? i tried all resolutions but all resulted in the same is there any method to change the refresh rate during boot...????
[13:19] <tim___> anyone have any clue about the installer / kernel issue?  Because Google's turning up jack squat.
[13:19] <uzerzero_> anybody know anything about the broadcom bcm43xx chipset?
[13:19] <sjnims> mornin
[13:19] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg kop
[13:20] <kop> but that works after installing the ubuntu right???
[13:20] <bazhang> kop: boot in safe mode
[13:20] <kop> where to type this when booting the live cd
[13:21] <kop> i boot in the safe mode then iam getting a blank screen for a long period of time...
[13:21] <bazhang> kop boot live cd in safe mode
[13:21] <kop>  i boot in the safe graphics  mode then iam getting a blank screen for a long period of time...
[13:21] <kop> nothing happening
[13:21] <uzerzero_> @kop are you running this on a laptop?
[13:21] <bazhang> kop be patient or try the alternate cd
[13:21] <kop> no on the desktop
[13:21] <kop> 15 inch monitor
[13:22] <uzerzero_> hmm. i know on my laptop that it will hang if i don't use the noapic boot option
[13:22] <kop> no i dont have any alternate cd...could anyone help me to install this using live cd...the previous versions worked fine...
[13:22] <dahitokiri> what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it?
[13:22] <damir> hi!
[13:22] <juelz> hello, i recently upgraded my 7.04 on 7.10, after the reboot it throws http://nopaste.biz/25483 what went wrong and how do i fix it?
[13:23] <uzerzero_> this is just speculation, but try tacking on the commands to the end of your boot line for the live cd "noapic acpi=off pnpbios=off"
[13:23] <kop> is der any boot option to change the refresh rate in the begining?
[13:24] <pawan> hi
[13:24] <uzerzero_> kop there should be, can you at least get onto the boot screen? look through the help files
[13:24] <kop> nothing i saw related to the refresh rate...
[13:26] <Onyx> When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely...  anyone else have this problem?
[13:26] <IMYojimbo> I'm seaching for a tool, some gui client of cvs, that will allow me to administer the premissions configuration... i'm trying to set my repository to be "closed source" for some users (only binaries), how can i do that?
[13:26] <linux4me> hi gusy, i'm trying to burn a dvd in ubuntu 7.10 under vmware 6.  when i try to burn an iso image to disc, it keeps asking for a blank disk even though 1 is in the drive.  I've tried selecting legacy emulation in the vmware setup. any suggestions?
[13:27] <uzerzero_> kop try xres=640x480
[13:27] <kop>  i got ubuntu 7.10 when i try to boot using that my monitor shows sync out of range message what to do now??? i tried all resolutions but all resulted in the same is there any method to change the refresh rate during boot...???
[13:27] <kop> during boot option???
[13:27] <sjnims> n00b question: on gnome-look.org, can i just download any theme and use it or do i need GTK, metacity, etc...
[13:27] <pawan> pidgin invalid sceen name
[13:27] <dna_> is there a utorrent clone in the repositories?
[13:28] <Enquest> Does gnome have an app to snap windows in certain positions on large screens... So I can divede my deskopt in 3 places?
[13:28] <juelz> hello, i recently upgraded my 7.04 on 7.10, after the reboot it throws http://nopaste.biz/25483 what went wrong and how do i fix it?
[13:28] <uzerzero_> kop yes, during boot option
[13:28] <lui_G> !de
[13:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:28] <zipper> How do one use mono? I have a .net 2.0 application i want to see run in linux
[13:28] <kop> hmm will try that...
[13:28] <Atul>  How to parse file using command line in GLIb?
[13:28] <uzerzero_> dna_ you can use ktorrent, transmission, or deluge, all work just as well as utorrent. you can also emulate utorrent perfectly using wine
[13:29] <bryan> i think i found fix to my problem ... (in ubuntu forums i found i should press f6 on the start and add this line : "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" but should i add it in the start of the line or at the end ?
[13:29] <dna_> uzerzero_, thanks :)
[13:29] <kop> but i have changed the resolution to 640x480 using the function key and it didnt worked ...i strongly beleive you need to change the refresh rate...the command xres only changes the screen resolution and note the refresh rate...i dont think this command will work
[13:30] <Onyx> When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely...  anyone else have this problem?
[13:30] <uzerzero_> @bryan add this line to the end of the boot options. if on a permanent install, you'll have to edit the grub menu listing
[13:30] <uzerzero_> @kop try researching the various vga modes
[13:30] <tigra>  8-)
[13:30] <dahitokiri> what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it?
[13:30] <kop> whats the various modes?
[13:30] <Pici> zipper: check out mono-project.com and on irc.gnome.org #mono
[13:31] <uzerzero_> i believe mode 794 is 1280x800 @ 60hz kop
[13:31] <Pici> Atul: Thats a bit offtopic of this channel, you might try asking in ##programming
[13:31] <sjnims> #ubuntu-desktop
[13:32] <kop> hmm thats gud where to type it...
[13:32] <uzerzero_> at the end of the boot line like everything else
[13:32] <bryan> :( it not working .. plz help me .. i have motherboard of intel DG965WH and i cant install ubuntu ?
[13:32] <bonchon> good morning - could anyone help me with a video question in Gutsy Gibbon?
[13:32] <NoranRad> hi, has anyone experience with unbuntu and a sony vaio sz61mn/b?
[13:32] <Myrtti> !ask | bonchon
[13:32] <ubotu> bonchon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:33] <bonchon> I'm using a Fujitsu P5020 laptop, and can't get the right driver (I think) for Gutsy
[13:34] <bonchon> if I use the graphics card driver for Intel Experimental modsetting, I get the right resolution, but the screen flickers
[13:34] <stepz_> um, pbuilder fails because supposedly apt-get is unable to locate package libwxgtk2.8-dev, but apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-dev works just fine
[13:34] <IMYojimbo> I'm seaching for a tool, some gui client of cvs, that will allow me to administer the premissions configuration... i'm trying to set my repository to be "closed source" for some users (only binaries), how can i do that?
[13:35] <sjnims> can anyone help me get lm-sensors working correctly on my asus mobo?
[13:35] <bonchon> and if I use the i810 driver (I have an intel chipset 855)
[13:35] <bonchon> I get the wrong resolutions
[13:35] <brobostigon> IMYojimbo: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:35] <Onyx> When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely...  anyone else have this problem?
[13:35] <uzerzero_> @bryan try using less of the options. try booting it with "noapic acpi=off pnpbios=off --" and make sure you include those last two dashes at the end, if that doesn't work try removing each option from the end
[13:35] <zipper> Pici: thx
[13:35] <Onyx> This is really annoying...
[13:35] <stepz_> ah, ok, I think I found the correct part from the howto
[13:35] <stepz_> must have been blind
[13:36] <Pici> Onyx: Can you open a terminal  and type `sudo apt-get update`  (w/o quotes)
[13:36] <bryan> uzerzero: what are the steps of doing that ? (i am new to ubuntu) press f6 on the start ?
[13:36] <sjnims> I followed the online guide for lm-sensors, but I can't get the correct readings from my mobo when compared to the readings in the bios
[13:36] <Onyx> Pici: Done... now try again?
[13:36] <Pici> Onyx: Did you get any errors?
[13:36] <IMYojimbo> brobostigon: ?
[13:36] <Onyx> Pici: No
[13:36] <bryan> uzerzero: after i press f6 , should i erase the all line ? or just add what you write me in the end of the line ?
[13:37] <Onyx> Pici: Ran straight through
[13:37] <BB88> How can I get the recycle bin to show on my desktop, as in windows?
[13:37] <Pici> Onyx: Try add/remove again then
[13:37] <Poromenos> I don't want other people to see my home directory files, what do I do? Do I just chmod everything to 700?
[13:38] <uzerzero_> @bryan remove the last two dashes at the end of the line, add the commands followed by -- then hit enter
[13:38] <Onyx> Pici: Same deal.  The "Starting Administrative...." process starts running in the background (icon on the taskbar), then it disappears and the add/remove program hangs.
[13:39] <sjnims> I can't get lm-sensors to work on my asus p5ld2 motherboard, can anyone help me?
[13:39] <brobostigon> onyx:try it from cli, it will give you lots more information when it starts.
[13:39] <Pici> Onyx: let me check something hewre, hold on
[13:40] <Pici> brobostigon: You happen to know the add/remove program name off the top of your head?
[13:40] <Onyx> brobostigon: Just using apt-get?
[13:40] <bonchon> Can't get the right resolution to show up in my screen options, in Gutsy - can anyone help?
[13:40] <brobostigon> pici:  nno idea
[13:40] <uzerzero_> @bonchon what type of video card are you using?
[13:40] <Pici> Onyx: Run `gksudo gnome-app-install`
[13:41] <Pici> Onyx: From a terminal and look for errors
[13:41] <BB88> bonchon: What graphics card do you have?
[13:41] <brobostigon> onyx: use apt-get oy synaptic to install progs.
[13:41] <bonchon> it's a laptop with an Intel 855 chipset
[13:41] <sjnims> #ubuntu-newyork
[13:41] <uzerzero_> !exit
[13:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:42] <melgish> Can someone please point me in the *right* direction to get my unbutnu VM guest to it's absolute minimum size?  df shows 1.0G in use, but vmdk is 3.4G after a (zero filled) shrink
[13:42] <shwouchk> hi
[13:42] <cbx33> hey guys just moved a CD drive from PS to SS, now it's working in GUI but not in command line properly
[13:42] <shwouchk> where can I find b43-fwcutter?
[13:42] <Phophos> Hi there all, I've lost sound from my main speakers, the oddity being that I can still get it through my front headphones. There doesn't look to be an alsamixer-related problem or a cable problem, so I'm a little confused - any advice?
[13:42] <cbx33> is the mappings stored somewhere else?
[13:42] <dahitokiri> what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it?
[13:42] <Onyx> Pici: Odd... that worked without any errors whatsoever.
[13:43] <Pici> Onyx: Very odd.
[13:43] <brobostigon> dahitokiri: hal
[13:43] <brobostigon> !hal
[13:43] <sjnims> phophos: did you try to unmute the other channels?
[13:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:43] <shwouchk> !b43
[13:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b43 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:44] <dahitokiri> brobostigon, any way i can configure it's actions?
[13:44] <Phophos> sjnims: I have no muted channels (according to alsamixer) except for "Duplicate Front"
[13:44] <thor> bonchon you probably need to add a modeline to xorg.conf for the resolution you need. Look at the man page for 'gtf' and google 'sorg.conf modeline' for more information
[13:44] <Archie1> are there any major update in 7.10 from 7.4?
[13:44] <brobostigon> dahitokiri: i dont know, sorry
[13:44] <bonchon> thor - will do now, let me see if that works
[13:45] <cMinion> hey fellas, my eth0 doesn't respond to inserted cables and connections with other comps at all. (noob here) Any idear what might be wrong?
[13:45] <sjnims> Phophos: If you open then sound mixer, are there any channels not listed that you know you have?
[13:45] <pawan> hi
[13:47] <Onyx> Pici: Is there any danger of editing my Applications menu to execute 'gksudo' prior to '/usr/sbin/gnome-app-install'... so the entry would be 'gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install'
[13:47] <rsk> how can i chek when i installed ubuntu?
[13:47] <bonchon> thor - looks like I'll have to use 915resolution again (had it in my earlier install, didn't think Gutsy needed it). For now, is there a way to get Ubuntu to just let me return to the driver that was sort of working? The preferences panel won't change back.
[13:47] <rsk> aproximitly
[13:48] <ximpul> Onyx: arent credentials cached for a bit using gksudo ?
[13:48] <Pici> Onyx: Not at all, but the program should have automatically called it itself.
[13:48] <Pici> ximpul: as they are for sudo as well.
[13:48] <bryan> uzerzero: still not working :( , let me explain the problem so you have more information , i have motherboard of intel DG965WH, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 desktop 64 bit , i got to the first screen (where i can choose install without graphics etc... ) when i choose the first option to install, all the computer like stuck .. moving very slow after a while its get to progress bar (the progress bar moving very slow and blink) that's
[13:48] <bryan> it.... ?
[13:48] <Onyx> ximpul: No idea dude... this is my first foray back into the Linux in about six years.
[13:49] <ximpul> Pici: Onyx:  mmm i would be more concerned with the credentials being cached
[13:49] <Pici> ximpul: Why? It only caches them for a few minutes and all the *sudo commands do that.
[13:49] <ximpul> Onyx: o rly ? well then you should not have many concerns here
[13:49] <bonchon> crap. my screen is completely hosed. I picked the wrong driver and logged out, now all i can see are diagonal scan lines
[13:49] <bonchon> is there anything I can do at all?
[13:50] <ximpul> Pici: if he were deploying ubuntu or something that would have been an issue
[13:50] <Onyx> ximpul: I was thinking the same as Pici there... I've only seen the sudo commands cache the stuff for about 5 minutes if that.
[13:50] <ximpul> Onyx: cool
[13:50] <thor> bonchon I know of no way in ubuntu to revert to a previous version of a package. I have seen too many problems similar to yours lately and have completely disabled 'upgrades' unless I find some improvement I can't live without.
[13:50] <melgish> hmmm... no response to my query... retry with different words:  How do I defrag my ubuntu system partition
[13:50] <Pici> ximpul: It only caches them for about 5 or 10 minutes, and this can be configured if needed (I dont remember where though)
[13:51] <ximpul> Pici: gotcha
[13:51] <ivze> I have a trouble, and i would be glad, if somebody helped me with it. After adding additional memory to my system(512 -> 1024+512) the kernel started to freeze (completely dead, no reaction to NumLock). This happens with an average time of about a hour. Following the advise of a man from #ubuntu, i have performed a memory test: 12 hours of test, no faults. That's the situation! I have asked the question here about 8 hours ago, i hope, now there are more people.
[13:52] <thor> bonchon can you hit Alt-F2 and switch to a console login to fix it?
[13:52] <thor> bonchon might need Alt-Ctrl-F2
[13:52] <ximpul> ivze: how did you run the memory test ?
[13:53] <Archie1> is it better to install 7.10 from a cd than to upgrade from 7.4 or is it the same exact thing?
[13:53] <ximpul> hmmm 12hrs of test but you asked 8 hrs ago... is this a riddle ?
[13:53] <ivze> -ximpul-: reboot->grub menu intem->test(default, no options changed)
[13:53] <ximpul> hehe
[13:53] <Archie1> ?
[13:53] <bonchon> alt-ctrl-f2 worked :)
[13:53] <AlieNation> does ubuntu support nonfree media codecs in an out-of-the-box configuration?
[13:54] <davidwinter> Can anyone recommend an app for password management?
[13:54] <krim_> davidwinter: I use Revelation.
[13:54] <Archie1> AlieNation: I believe linux does
[13:54] <ximpul> ivze: what kind of memory is it ?
[13:54] <Archie1> ubuntu is a linux
[13:54] <davidwinter> krim_: thanks, will check it out.
[13:54] <AlieNation> Archie1: Yes, I know.
[13:54] <Archie1> so yes
[13:54] <Archie1> just use vlc
[13:54] <Archie1> or mplayer
[13:54] <Archie1> mplayer supports everything!
[13:54] <Pici> !codecs | AlieNation
[13:54] <ubotu> AlieNation: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:55] <ivze> -ximpul-: DDR2-800MHz.
[13:55] <AlieNation> Archie1: But some distros like fedora for example limit them
[13:55] <brobostigon> vlc also supports most formats
[13:55] <ximpul> ivze:  what company makes it ?
[13:55] <Pici> Archie1: Please don't assume like that unless you know what you are talking about.
[13:55] <bryan> Pici
[13:55] <bryan> Pici: can you help me plz ?
[13:55] <Pici> bryan: perhaps, whats up?
[13:55] <ivze> -ximpul-: getting into the system block...
[13:55] <AlieNation> Archie1: Thanks
[13:55] <Archie1> Pici: assume what?
[13:56] <wers> i just transferred all the contents (including hidden files) of my home folder to another folder for me to have a clean desktop. apparently, some of my old settings still remain. other than my home folder, where can I find user settings? :D
[13:56] <bryan> Pici:  let me explain the problem so you have more information , i have motherboard of intel DG965WH, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 desktop 64 bit , i got to the first screen (where i can choose install without graphics etc... ) when i choose the first option to install, all the computer like stuck .. moving very slow after a while its get to progress bar (the progress bar moving very slow and blink) that's it.... ?
[13:56] <ximpul> ivze: what does that mean ?
[13:56] <Pici> Archie1: That since Ubuntu is linux that it supports proprietary codecs.
[13:56] <AlieNation> !codecs
[13:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:56] <Pici> bryan: Have you tried using the Alternate CD?
[13:56] <Archie1> Pici: you can install ones even if it doesnt
[13:56] <brobostigon> wers: have you looked for invisible folders too.
[13:56] <infidel> help? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":2.0".
[13:56] <wers> yep, brobostigon
[13:56] <bryan> Pici: yes still not working
[13:56] <Pici> Archie1: Yes, but he asked about 'out of the box'
[13:56] <Archie1> oh
[13:57] <Archie1> missed that part :(
[13:57] <Jordan_U_> Archie1, That is not what was asked "does ubuntu support nonfree media codecs in an out-of-the-box configuration?"
[13:57] <Pici> Archie1: Its okay :)
[13:57] <bonchon> how do i keep the gui from starting when i turn on my machine? i need a command line because my video driver is wrong and won't let me see anything once the gui starts
[13:57] <Pici> bryan: Do you get any errors from the alt-cd?
[13:58] <Archie1> Pici: doesn't totem also provice all the codecs needed?
[13:58] <cyberius> hi! how can I mount my flash card, which i put into my laptop? (i use fluxbuntu)
[13:58] <Pici> Archie1: It can, but it needs to install them first.
[13:58] <Jordan_U_> bonchon, You can start in recovery mode, fix the problem and reboot
[13:58] <bryan> Pici: no... just the system running slow, and after along time its got to the partitioner and stuck on the format step .. (someone also told me it maybe some problem arround sata but he not sure)
[13:58] <cyberius> what do i have to mount
[13:58] <ivze> -ximpul-: (i said, i was opening the case to look onto the motherboard to see the name to keep o making mistakes). The company  is PATRIOT.
[13:59] <Archie1> Pici: is upgrading from 7.4 just like installing straight from the cd?
[13:59] <cMinion> is there any way my eth0 might be disabled from somewhere else than ifconfig???
[13:59] <jatt> what is this?
[13:59] <jatt> # ls -altr /dev/zero
[13:59] <jatt> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 5 2007-12-27 03:24 /dev/zero
[13:59] <wers> other than the user home folder, where are user settings located?
[13:59] <ximpul> ivze: ah ok, well thats a decent brand
[13:59] <ximpul> jatt: its a character device that outputs ...zero !
[14:00] <Pici> Archie1: No, Only the !alternate cd can be used as an upgrade disk, the desktop CD is only for new installs.
[14:00] <cyberius> what do i have to mount my flash card? :/
[14:00] <ximpul> jatt: what you are looking at is a file that represents this idea of outputting zeros
[14:01] <Pici> bryan: Have you tried installing the 32bit version? Just to see if it works?
[14:01] <jatt> ximpul: thanks, i just saw that device mentioned in a talk I'm not sure what the purpose of /dev/zero is
[14:01] <mephisto> hello
[14:01] <bryan> Pici: 32 bit running fine
[14:01] <Archie1> Pici: i am doing it through update manager atm
[14:01] <mephisto> i'm new in this room of the server
[14:01] <maek> If I have this entry in my sources.list "deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/" and I want to pin it in /etc/apt/preferences would my Pin: release a=getdeb line need to be a=getdeb or a=getdeb/ ? thanks.
[14:01] <Pici> Archie1: Update manager is fun as well
[14:01] <Jordan_U_> cyberius, try running "mkdir ~/.ivman"
[14:01] <Archie1> fun or fine?
[14:01] <Archie1> :-D
[14:02] <Pici> Archie1: Er, fine (fun too)
[14:02] <Archie1> hehe
[14:02] <melgish> think of /dev/zero as an endless source of bytes, all with the value 0
[14:02] <cyberius> Jordan_U_: mkdir??? this creates just a directory?
[14:02] <fairman> Hi, i need support for right settings resolutions and frequency on my monitor. Corresponding part of xorg.conf is here - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49682/. I can use only the resolution 800x600 ... why?
[14:02] <ximpul> jatt:  "dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zerofile bs=512 count=1" makes a file in /tmp that is 512 bytes worth of zeros
[14:02] <Archie1> when i run java i get the gcj version even though i installed jre6, am i doing something wrong?
[14:02] <mic> hello everybody, would someone know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending?
[14:03] <Jordan_U_> cyberius, Yes, it also fixes the automounting bug in the release candidate according to the release notes :)
[14:03] <wers> i deleted my home folder, logged out and back in to have a fresh desktop, but some settings still remain
[14:03] <Jordan_U_> cyberius, Then it should simply mount when you insert it :)
[14:03] <wers> how do I make my user account fresh?
[14:03] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:03] <jatt> ximpul: I see... thanks!
[14:04] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:04] <cyberius> Jordan_U_: $ mkdir ~/.ivman
[14:04] <cyberius> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/daminator/.ivman': File exists
[14:04] <cyberius> and what now? :)
[14:04] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:04] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:04] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:04] <Archie1> how do i switch from gcj to java, i have both installed
[14:04] <Jordan_U_> cyberius, I don't know
[14:04] <ompaul> !offtopic | mephisto
[14:04] <ubotu> mephisto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:04] <ximpul> wers: how did you delete your home folder ? im assuming you did an "rm myhomefolder/* "
[14:04] <mephisto> what do u think about xbox360 ???
[14:04] <cyberius> Maybe somebody else can help how to mount the flash card?
[14:05] <Jordan_U_> cyberius, Check "sudo fdisk -l" and try the mount command
[14:05] <Archie1> cyberius: mount -t vfat /dev/flashdevice /mountpoint
[14:05] <Kezzer> What's the version of Ubuntu that runs off a USB key?
[14:05] <wers> ximpul, i used pcmanfm. i moved important files and deleted the whole dir then created a blank one
[14:05] <ompaul> Volvagia356, how did you get on?
[14:06] <ximpul> wers: what settings persist? maybe they are storing their configurations outside of your home folder
[14:06] <wers> ximpul, my choice of window manager and my panel setup
[14:07] <krim_> Kezzer: I haven't heard of any Ubuntu version running off a USB stick so sorry if my answer isn't helpful but maybe Puppy Linux would be something for you?
[14:07] <Pici> !install > Kezzer (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:07] <Pici> Kezzer: See ubotu's message on ways to install ubuntu, including running off of a usb stick.
[14:07] <cyberius> thanks!
[14:08] <ximpul> wers: maybe take a look at the manpage for your window manager and see if its storing its config files in some other place outside of your home dir
[14:08] <Pici> Kezzer: also /msg ubotu usb
[14:08] <wers> it's just xfwm, ximpul
[14:08] <melgish> Can someone please assist?  I'm looking to shrink my ubuntu VM down to it's absolute minimum size.  df shows about 1G in use on the drive, yet my zero-filled shrink only reduced it to about 3.5G... If it's not the files, it must be the space between them, so I need to consolidate them to a narrower portion of my HD
[14:08] <wers> it's supposed to be in .config, afaik
[14:08] <ivze> -ximpul-: so do you have any idea, in which direction i shall dig? I have a suggestion, that this may be somehow connected to my ATI on-board video chip (using fglrx driver). Yet, that's just a suggestion. I have noticed some corelation between using firefox and Totem music video effects and these freezes.
[14:09] <ximpul> wers: mmm is there a session configuration held  within the config files you saved ?
[14:09] <mic> Does someone here know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending?
[14:09] <ompaul> melgish, that is about the most basic install you can have, you need to use LVM if you want to try and get that space back - and that has a performance hit so either way you pay
[14:09] <Archie1> does everything in /etc/init.d/get auto loaded at boot time or is there a config file that selects which ones to load?
[14:09] <maek> how do I make it so I can use the super key along with another key for a binding? like <super>t for launching term. every time I try it only registers the left or right super key and not the other key im trying to use. thanks.
[14:09] <wers> what config files, ximpul? you mean the ones I preserved? I put them in another directory. not in my user folder
[14:09] <ompaul> melgish, also be aware you will have no space to add in additional (read useful) packages
[14:09] <ximpul> ivze: well i would say that you should check to see if you can reproduce this problem with a livecd, if you can then  replace the memory
[14:10] <Archie1> does everything in /etc/init.d/get auto loaded at boot time or is there a config file that selects which ones to load?
[14:10] <cMinion> my eth0 interface is nonresposive, somebody has an idear for a checklist??
[14:10] <wols> Archie1: no. the mechanism is called sysvinit
[14:10] <ximpul> wers: did you make these changes and save them to the global skeleton config file ?
[14:11] <TheGateKeeper> for the benefit of any ubuntu devs in here, the screen resolution changer on the live cd doesn't work very well
[14:11] <Archie1> wols: how can that help me?
[14:11] <ompaul> Archie1, they get loaded and stopped and started as requested to find out more about what is starting install "rcconf" for a console app (sudo rcconf is how you start that) or install for the gui "bum" same idea again
[14:11] <Archie1> is that a command?
[14:11] <ximpul> TheGateKeeper: can you be more specific ?
[14:11] <wers> ximpul, i made a clean account and renamed the newly made home folder to my user name. imma try loggin in with this home folder
[14:11] <Jordan_U> Kezzer, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[14:11] <wers> you think it will do the job?
[14:11] <Pici> !upgstart | Archie1 wols
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgstart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <Pici> !upstart | Archie1 wols
[14:11] <ubotu> Archie1 wols: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[14:12] <skyblue> ？？
[14:12] <ximpul> wers: did you update /etc/passed
[14:12] <Archie1> nice question marks :)
[14:12] <wers> nope, ximpul
[14:12] <ximpul> err /etc/passwd
[14:12] <wers> how do I do it?
[14:12] <wols> Archie1: it gives you a point to start wíth for research to see how it works. but if you want to be lazy: fine
[14:12] <ximpul> grep <your new username> /etc/passwd
[14:12] <ximpul> wers: grep <your new username> /etc/passwd  should give you the users home directory at the end of the line
[14:12] <Archie1> no i meant you just gave me a name of the program
[14:13] <Archie1> nevermind
[14:13] <wols> Pici: while it's meant to replace, it hasn't done so right now since /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc?.d still exist
[14:13] <TheGateKeeper> ximpul, yes I selected admininstration --> screen resolution, told it to use a lower resolution, dialog box came up asking me if I wanted to keep the new resolution *but* it had failed to change the screen resolution
[14:13] <wers> ximpul, yep. did that with the gui. imma log in and out
[14:13] <wers> brb
[14:13] <Archie1> wols: are you also in debian? :-D
[14:13] <OIM> hello
[14:13] <ximpul> TheGateKeeper: failed how? did the screen go black ?
[14:14] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. i've got a buffalo g54 here,, and i've had this happen to another buffalo g54 before, you plug it in, and the red diag light is on, just seems to be dead as a door nail.. anything that can be done?
[14:14] <mic>  hello everybody, would someone know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending?
[14:14] <Jordan_U> wols, It's backwards compatible, sisvinit is gone, but not all of the scripts use the features of upstart yet
[14:14] <wols> NET||abuse: you can ask in other places. this is OT. e.g. like ##hardware
[14:14] <Pici> NET||abuse: Try ##networking, or ##hardware
[14:14] <TheGateKeeper> ximpul, no screen just remained the same, desktop remained as was
[14:14] <NET||abuse> wols: kya,, askin in there then,,
[14:14] <ximpul> TheGateKeeper:  any log messages in dmesg ?
[14:15] <Archie1> wols: is there any file that loads scripts at boot time?
[14:15] <melgish> thanks but I think i mislead y'all.  The 'virtual' disk size is 128G, but it's actual size is 3.5G (ie it will expand as needed)  in the windows world, I'd use defrag at this point to consolodate the free-space into a larger block, and allow for a smaller vmdk file.  I know there are no defrag utils for ubuntu (nor the need for them) but was wondering if there was a way to clone the drive such that free space on the 'cloned' drive is consol
[14:15] <TheGateKeeper> ximpul, must confess didn't look it there, I can have a look next time I have a play if it helps
[14:15] <Archie1> wols: /etc/profile?
[14:15] <TheGateKeeper> ximpul, I was using gparted to sort my hd out
[14:16] <wols> Archie1: that has nothing to do. it's a shell related file
[14:16] <wols> Archie1: what do you want to start at boottime exactly?
[14:16] <Archie1> my own script
[14:16] <ximpul> TheGateKeeper: sure, if you are able to reproduce it, go here to report a bug : http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem
[14:16] <wols> what does the script DO?
[14:17] <Archie1> wols: none of you business
[14:17] <Archie1> :-P
[14:17] <TheGateKeeper> ximpul, ok :)
[14:17] <wols> ok
[14:17] <Archie1> ehh i am being terribly annoying sorry
[14:17] <Jordan_U> melgish, You can use partimage
[14:18] <melgish> thanks, I'll look into that
[14:19] <melgish> sometimes just knowing what something is called makes all the difference :D
[14:20] <ximpul> hey guys i have to head out
[14:20] <ximpul> cheers
[14:20] <thefoxx> hello
[14:21] <thefoxx> whats up with the PPA build servers? In launchpad most of them are listed as "idle" but I'm waiting for my builds since more than 2 hours
[14:21] <zirmo> bellaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:22] <Pici> thefoxx: try asking in #launchpad :)
[14:23] <thefoxx> Pici, sorry I wanted so and did it now ;)
[14:25] <gvsa123> i have three user account in my ubuntu, where i am the admin (default account created in installation). how do i set my account to be able to access other users /home but not the other way around?
[14:26] <stdin> gvsa123: add yourself to their groups
[14:26] <gvsa123> stdin: in manage groups?
[14:26] <stdin> yes
[14:27] <allan__> in what folder do i find keybing configurations?
[14:28] <gvsa123> stdin: there is only my name on the manage groups... they don't have an entry
[14:28] <stdin> make sure you're in admin mode
[14:28] <livingdaylight> this kind of control is enough to make me wanna leave Ubuntu
[14:29] <livingdaylight> Pici, completely unreasonable
[14:29] <LimCore> huh
[14:29] <Pici> !traffic
[14:29] <LimCore> ompaul for the win
[14:29] <ompaul> done
[14:29] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[14:30] <s1ph3r> ubuntu 7.10 is impossible to install on this system.
[14:30] <gvsa123> stdin: you mean that i belong to the admin group?
[14:30] <ompaul> s1ph3r, depends on what this system is
[14:31] <cin> hi all
[14:31] <s1ph3r> ompaul I can't get a usuable resolution for the install. (even the failsafe fails)
[14:31] <s1ph3r> I get the point where it allows me to select the video driver / resolution.
[14:31] <wols> s1ph3r: use tect mode and tell us what video it is
[14:31] <cin> i need help with GRUB and WinXp
[14:31] <stdin> gvsa123: no, so you can edit the groups, you need to add their group to your list of groups
[14:31] <s1ph3r> I know what video it is.
[14:31] <ompaul> !bootoptions | s1ph3r you will find that if you do vga=771 or 791 or some such it will work for your machinge
[14:31] <ubotu> s1ph3r you will find that if you do vga=771 or 791 or some such it will work for your machinge: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:31] <wols> cin: you need to state your real problem too
[14:31] <s1ph3r> and I know my resolution.
[14:32] <gvsa123> stdin: hmmm... let me absorb that a sec :)
[14:32] <wols> s1ph3r: but we don't so we can't help
[14:32] <wols> s1ph3r: the psychic has his free day today
[14:32] <s1ph3r> i810 intel :p
[14:32] <s1ph3r> lcd monitor 1440x900
[14:32] <cin> it seems that im too stupid to add it to GRUB
[14:32] <wols> really i810? a P3 it is then?
[14:32] <s1ph3r> no p4
[14:33] <s1ph3r> ibm net vista
[14:33] <gvsa123> stdin: i should make myself part of their group? but they don't have a group... their main group is me basically... but their names arent' ticked in mange groups
[14:33] <wols> cin: output of sudo fdisk -l in a pastebin
[14:33] <wols> s1ph3r: then it can't be a i810 but a i945 or such.
[14:33] <s1ph3r> wols from a previous install it was using the i810 driver
[14:33] <stdin> gvsa123: normally when you add a user they get the primary group name that's the same as their username
[14:33] <s1ph3r> and regardless...I tried the i945 driver
[14:33] <s1ph3r> with the same results.
[14:34] <cin> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[14:34] <cin> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9733 cylinders
[14:34] <cin> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:34] <cin> Disk identifier: 0x8f138f13
[14:34] <cin> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:34] <cin> /dev/hda1   *           1        3824    30716248+  83  Linux
[14:34] <cin> /dev/hda2            3825        9733    47464042+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[14:34] <cin> /dev/hda5            3825        9306    44034133+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[14:34] <wols> s1ph3r: yes, the driver is i810 but not the viode. I ask cause some apparently don't work with that driver even when they should.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:34] <gvsa123> stdin: i noticed that from previous installations... but adding them didn't create a group that has their name
[14:34] <wols> cin: in the meantime put it in a pastebin
[14:34] <ompaul> LjL, co operative?
[14:35] <gvsa123> stdin: what is the difference between owners and groups anyway?
[14:35] <wols> s1ph3r: have you tried vesa yet?
[14:35] <stdin> gvsa123: owner is the person, only one user can have that user id/name, groups are sets of users
[14:35] <s1ph3r> wols it works up until the point where it asks to select the video stuff. Even if I select use failsafe...it flickers and doesn't work.
[14:36] <gvsa123> stdin: and this is different from users and groups?
[14:36] <wols> s1ph3r: I asked you something, please answer
[14:36] <s1ph3r> yes I have.
[14:36] <s1ph3r> thats what it defaults to with failsafe
[14:36] <stdin> gvsa123: nope, same thing just different terms
[14:36] <s1ph3r> I get video for the short time of selecting the video card/monitor.
[14:37] <wols> s1ph3r: either use a text mode install or next time it flickers with vesa and dies go to console 2 (ctrl+alt+f2) and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:37] <gvsa123> stdin: so the owner in chown, is actually the user? and the group in chgrp is the same groups found in manage groups?
[14:37] <s1ph3r> wols, I guess the issue is...it doesn't die. (I can hear gnome starting up)
[14:37] <anton> Hey, I have a problem...my friend is over at my place with his computer (LAN)...but he can't an internet connection...do i have to "allow" him to connect or something?
[14:37] <wols> s1ph3r: and check if there is a xsession-errors anywhere
[14:37] <stdin> gvsa123: yeah
[14:37] <s1ph3r> but the screen simply remains black.
[14:37] <gvsa123> stdin: i mean the users in settings
[14:37] <wols> anton: do you have a router?
[14:37] <gvsa123> stdin: i see
[14:37] <anton> wols: Yes,
[14:38] <Karti> Merry Christmas all.....anyone please recommend software to use with a nokia mobile phone with ubuntu? Many thanks
[14:38] <wols> anton: plug his computer into your router too and you're done
[14:38] <stdin> gvsa123: check what the group name is for the home directories of the users, if it's different to your group add yourself to it. if not, then you can just "sudo chmod 700 ~/" which makes the owner the only one who can access your home dir (except for root)
[14:38] <gvsa123> stdin: ok... i'll try to sink this is first..
[14:38] <anton> wols: Lol :) Done that ages ago...
[14:39] <wols> anton: it's not a ubuntu problem but a router problem. OT here
[14:39] <Onyx> I accidentally removed the Volume startup program from system > preferences > sessions -- can someone tell me how to get it back?
[14:39] <anton> wols: Ok...
[14:39] <Steiner`> 0.0
[14:39] <gvsa123> stdin: all other /home/XXX belong to my group... i believe the permissions is drwxr-xr-x
[14:40] <s1ph3r> learn how to count in binary :)
[14:40] <stdin> gvsa123: then you should have read access to them already
[14:40] <gvsa123> stdin: i also want write
[14:40] <infidel> !zune
[14:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:40] <stdin> gvsa123: "sudo chmod g+w /home/<username>" for each user
[14:41] <gvsa123> stdin: in 0700 what is 4= ? 2= ? 1=? again.
[14:41] <gvsa123> stdin: <username> is me right?
[14:42] <stdin> gvsa123: 4=read, 2=write, 1=execute,  <username> is the name of each user you want write permission to
[14:42] <gvsa123> stdin: oh i get the username already... i'm adding w to their /home/<username>
[14:43] <Onyx> Anyone??
[14:43] <stdin> gvsa123: yeah, you're just making it so that the group has write access (although if each user is in the same group then all users can read/write to each others home)
[14:43] <Onyx> I accidentally removed the Volume startup program from system > preferences > sessions -- can someone tell me how to get it back?
[14:43] <mmdski> is there a website with planned packges? specifically, i'm looking to see when eclipse 3.3 is going to be put in the repositories
[14:43] <gvsa123> stdin: chmod g+w adds write access (+w) to the groups (g) they belong to?
[14:43] <stdin> gvsa123: exactly
[14:43] <dna__> sometimes ubuntu doesn't take usb devices, why?
[14:44] <gvsa123> stdin: ah yeah... but then they'll also be able to write in my /home
[14:44] <dna__> like ipod, mouse, usb drive
[14:44] <Buyydee> onyx: add a new entry with the following options:
[14:44] <bazhang> new nano dna__?
[14:44] <Buyydee> name: Volume Manager
[14:44] <dna__> bazhang, no old one
[14:44] <Buyydee> command: gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable
[14:44] <stdin> gvsa123: not if you set your home to 700 (read/write/execute for the owner only)
[14:45] <Buyydee> comment: Volume manager for removable drives and media
[14:45] <Buyydee> this should restore it
[14:45] <mouse> dna__, what do you see in dmesg|tail when you attach your device?
[14:45] <Onyx> Buyydee: Thanks :D
[14:45] <Buyydee> welcome
[14:45] <bazhang> dna__: the mini or other; which program are you using --amarok?
[14:45] <gvsa123> stdin: ah that's the permissions part of it...
[14:45] <zylche> Hard drive problem - Force unmounted, drive reporting no partition, writing before unmount, dmesg reports [277146.072000] EXT3-fs: sdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4000400).
[14:45] <dna__> mouse, [ 1667.209874] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 2
[14:46] <mouse> dna__, this happens when you disconnect device.
[14:46] <dna__> bazhang, it happens with all usb devices not only ipod
[14:46] <AngryElf> hey folks, i just installled the nvidia binary driver and i can't start X, even after a reboot, I have a supported card (7900GS) any ideas?
[14:46] <golempie> what can i do if i have a unreal 2004 dvd with installer but installer doesnt load with no output?
[14:46] <Buyydee> Is there anyone familiar with GRUB?
[14:46] <wols> AngryElf: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:46] <bazhang> dna__: all usb devices? that sounds like a hardware issue
[14:46] <wols> Buyydee: ask your question
[14:46] <stdin> gvsa123: yeah, "sudo chmod 700 ~/" is the same as it being "drwx------"
[14:46] <mouse> golempie installer is the shell-script? "file install_program" ?
[14:47] <golempie> yes
[14:47] <golempie> but it doesnt load
[14:47] <gvsa123> stdin: so if i want them to read my files only, i set chmod 0750? not including others
[14:47] <golempie> no gui
[14:47] <mouse> Buyydee, may be I can help. I more familiar with lilo, but...
[14:47] <bazhang> golempie: doesn't load with no output?
[14:47] <Buyydee> I already posted my problem here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567285) and it
[14:47] <mouse> try to run "sh -x install_script"
[14:47] <Buyydee> sry, wrong key ...
[14:47] <AngryElf> wols: ok gimme a minute
[14:47] <wols> golempie: unreal should have a linux program version
[14:47] <golempie> golempje@golempje:~$ sh linux-installer.sh
[14:47] <golempie> (blank)
[14:47] <mouse> golempie, this should print what this script do
[14:47] <Buyydee> and it's sort of urgent, so i'm trying it here too
[14:48] <gvsa123> stdin: i'll try to get this straight...
[14:48] <mouse> golempie, sh -x linux-installer.sh
[14:48] <stdin> gvsa123: yeah, that will let them read files in you're home (but remember that each file and directory under your home can have different permissions too)
[14:48] <wols> Buyydee: it can be as urgent as it wants, either you give us more info or no one can help you
[14:48] <Buyydee> I had gutsy installed for a while and then installed vista over it. now i restored grub, but grub won't find my vista partition
[14:48] <stdin> gvsa123: so you can have directories and files they can't read even though your home is set to be readable
[14:49] <Buyydee> please let me finish typing :) i just wanted to explain why i'm bugging the community in two places ;)
[14:49] <zylche> Is there anyone that could help with my problem?
[14:49] <AngryElf> wols: http://pastebin.com/m48242dcc
[14:49] <x3roconf> Buyydee: what fdisk -l says?
[14:49] <gvsa123> stdin: oh... is there a hierarchy to what will first be considered? i mean... does permission for directories supersede permissions of files inside them?
[14:49] <golempie> golempje@golempje:~$ sh -x linux-installer.sh
[14:49] <golempie> golempje@golempje:~$
[14:49] <golempie> nothing again
[14:49] <wols> Buyydee: sudo fidisk -l
[14:50] <Buyydee> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes
[14:50] <Buyydee> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[14:50] <Buyydee> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:50] <Buyydee> Disk identifier: 0x77777777
[14:50] <Buyydee>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:50] <Buyydee> /dev/sda1            6375       18711    99096952+  83  Linux
[14:50] <Buyydee> /dev/sda2           18712       19457     5992245    5  Extended
[14:50] <wols> pastebin!
[14:50] <Buyydee> /dev/sda3   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[14:50] <Buyydee> /dev/sda5           18712       19457     5992213+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[14:50] <bazhang> not here buyydee
[14:50] <Pici> !paste > buyydee (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:50] <osxdude> ugh
[14:50] <gvsa123> stdin: so that /home/folder is 0777, but /home/folder/file is 0000.... which will take effect?
[14:50] <brobostigon> !pastebin | buyydee
[14:50] <ubotu> buyydee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:50] <osxdude> it's called a fricken past
[14:50] <osxdude> force part ftw pici
[14:51] <stdin> gvsa123: if the directory is set readable to all but a file inside it is set to readable only to an owner (user), then the files permissions take president
[14:51] <mouse> golempie, pastebin content of linux-installer.sh if it's not so big. Or paste "head -150 linux-installer.sh"
[14:52] <gvsa123> stdin: so file permissions are always above permissions for directory?
[14:52] <stdin> gvsa123: well, in a way. you see to linux, directories are "files" too ;)
[14:52] <mouse> zylche, are you sure that your drive healthy? SATA/PATA? which chipset? ICHx?
[14:52] <gvsa123> stdin: ah yes... i read that a thousand times already... :)
[14:53] <golempie> mouse got it running now on root modus
[14:53] <stdin> gvsa123: you have to have access to the directory to access what's inside it, but you can set different permissions on files inside them
[14:53] <zylche> Well, I was using it beforehand, no idea of SATA/PATA, chipset, ICHx/
[14:53] <mouse> may be, wrong permissions? ls -l linux-installer.sh?
[14:54] <Buyydee> at all those that were trying to help me out: i'm sorry i flooded the channel accidently, here is the pastebin-url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49685/
[14:54] <golempie> -rwxrwxrwx  1 golempje golempje  29627635 2007-12-27 16:25 linux-installer.sh
[14:54] <gvsa123> stdin: so if the directory is not readable to everyone, even if you set the things inside it to 0777, you still can't read it because you can't get through the first line of permissions? i think this is making sense now... :)
[14:54] <mouse> zylche, if dmesg didn't contain any drive-errors than it may be driver bug. if your drive isn't SCSI, try to change BIOS option and put SATA controller to IDE-compatible mode.
[14:55] <stdin> gvsa123: that's exactly how it works :)
[14:55] <zylche> mouse: [277628.780000] EXT3-fs: sdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4000400).
[14:55] <gvsa123> stdin: gvsa123 is trying to absorb :)
[14:55] <zylche> dmesg also reports that it's a SCSI drive.
[14:56] <]Spectre[> hi to all.is it possible to configure the xorg from the command line with a basic vesa compatible mode ? I have some troubles with ati and gnome and it won't start anymore.thanks to all
[14:56] <gvsa123> stdin: and there's only 3 kinds of permissions right? r w x?
[14:56] <stdin> gvsa123: you're doing well, you've just described it exactly how it works
[14:56] <wols> Buyydee: "sudo update-grub" then paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:56] <mouse> zylche, fsck /dev/sdb1
[14:56] <stdin> gvsa123: well no, there are more but those are the main ones (and probably the only ones you'll need)
[14:57] <mouse> zylche, SATA/PATA represents as SCSI drive.
[14:57] <zylche> The superblock couldn't be read/doesn't describe a correct ext2 filesystem
[14:57] <stdin> gvsa123: there is "suid", "sgid" and "sticky bit" too
[14:57] <gvsa123> stdin: oh theres still more to this... <gvsa crashes back to earth> lol
[14:57]  * syc_ mohon pamid
[14:57] <zylche> Wait. Superblock is too high/corrupt
[14:57] <gvsa123> stdin: :((
[14:57] <mouse> zylche, and dmesg at this point doesn't contain any additional info?
[14:57] <Buyydee> done. here the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49686/
[14:58] <zylche> Nope
[14:58]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[14:58] <xturux> hi
[14:58] <Buyydee> the partition was mounted in nautilus while i updated grub
[14:58]  * xturux alguien que hable español ?
[14:58] <Pici> !id | syc_
[14:58] <ubotu> syc_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:58] <Pici> !es | xturux
[14:58] <Buyydee> un poco, si
[14:58] <ubotu> xturux: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:58] <mouse> zylche, e2label /dev/sdb1 should report error about wrong superblock, shouldn't?
[14:58] <Buyydee> el bot tambien :)
[14:58] <stdin> gvsa123: for example, if you suid (set UID) an executable, then when a user runs that executable it's ran as if the owner ran it (rather than the user)
[14:58] <mouse> Buyydee, si :)
[14:59] <syc_> Pici:  how do you know that im indonesian ?
[14:59] <zylche> mouse "Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock."
[14:59] <Pici> syc_: Your host is in indonesia :)
[14:59] <gvsa123> stdin: User ID?
[14:59] <mouse> zylche, do you have any other filesystems on that drive?
[14:59] <zylche> The drive was being unmounted but it seemed to crash, so I had to pull the plug on the drive ...
[14:59] <stdin> gvsa123: yeah, same for sgid (set Group ID), it'd be ran with the permissions of the group that owns the file
[14:59] <syc_> Pici:  :D
[14:59] <wols> Buyydee: FULL menu.lst please
[14:59] <zylche> No, Just ext3.
[15:00] <mouse> zylche, pastebin your fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[15:00] <offload> sup guys
[15:00] <Buyydee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49687/
[15:00] <mouse> zylche, do you have important data on that drive?
[15:00] <x3roconf> offload:sup
[15:00] <zylche> A lot
[15:00] <zylche> http://pastebin.com/mb108d20
[15:00] <stdin> gvsa123: have a look at the permissions for /usr/bin/X, the "s" in there represents suid and sgid (depending where it is in the permissions)
[15:01] <offload> Hey, I found a couple scripts that allow me to configure gmail as the default mail client in Ubuntu however when i click a email link nothing happens.  But if I run the .sh script it opens firefox.  I'm not really sure where to start troubleshooting this one.
[15:01] <wols> Buyydee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49688/  should work
[15:01] <gvsa123> stdin: but you'd have to have x permission to run it in the first place?
[15:01] <stdin> gvsa123: you do, yes :)
[15:01] <gvsa123> stdin: i'll have a look
[15:02] <Buyydee> wols: would setup (hd0,2) in the grub command recognise the partition, if your entry worked?
[15:02] <stdin> gvsa123: "-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7460 2007-12-20 19:40 /usr/bin/X" means that anyone can run it, but when they do it'll run as if the user and group that ran it was "root"
[15:02] <gvsa123> stdin: -rwsr-sr-x means owner and group has s?
[15:02] <stdin> gvsa123: yes
[15:02] <max> sers
[15:02] <Tezasaurus> Does anybody have an idea why Azureus would keep crashing in 7.10?
[15:03] <gvsa123> stdin: why root? and it still applies to the others group when it doesn't have an s?
[15:03] <x3roconf> are u using apt-get version?
[15:03] <xoqa> is there a quicker way to find the initab file.. this is what i'm running currently:  find /* -name inittab -type f -print0
[15:03] <bazhang> Tezasaurus: run it from the terminal and then pastebin the error messages or tell us here if they are brief
[15:03] <xoqa> i'm only seeing /etc/init.d/
[15:03] <mouse> zylche, try to mount your partition with option sb=m, m=32768*n, where n = { 3^i, 5^i, 7^i}, so 3, 5, 7, 9, 25, 27, 49, ...
[15:03] <gvsa123> Tezasaurus: multiple java
[15:03] <jerome_dk> hi all, I've just installed Thunderbird and I'm looking for the folder it uses called 'mail'. Where would I typically find that?
[15:03] <max> hallo?
[15:04] <Buyydee> max: das ist ein englischer channel
[15:04] <Buyydee> tezesaurus: this has to do with java
[15:04] <gvsa123> stdin: oh because it is owned and belongs to root
[15:04] <mouse> zylche, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -osb=98304
[15:04] <zylche> AH. Thanks
[15:04] <stdin> gvsa123: if it was only -rwsr-xr-x, then it would be ran as user: root, group: (your group)
[15:04] <jerome_dk> ... or put differently: in what folder do programs typically install?
[15:04] <zylche> Checking
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> bazhang: I get...
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: XML declaration not well-formed
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> #
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> #
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb448874b, pid=5935, tid=3084704656
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> #
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.6.0_03-b05 mixed mode, sharing)
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> # Problematic frame:
[15:05] <stdin> !paste > Tezasaurus
[15:05] <Tezasaurus> # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0xb74b]
[15:05] <brobostigon> !pastebin | Tezasaurus
[15:05] <ubotu> Tezasaurus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:05] <bazhang> Tezasaurus: that is not brief
[15:05] <stdin> gvsa123: the other permission "sticky bit" is rather obscure and not really used any more, so you don't have to worry about it
[15:06] <gvsa123> stdin: so SUID is set when you add the s to the user section of ---s------ and SGID is simply when the s is in the group part ------s---?
[15:06] <mouse> zylche, I suggest to run fsck.ext3 with -b option first.
[15:06] <gvsa123> stdin:  that's the t right?
[15:06] <Tezasaurus> whoop, sorry
[15:06] <stdin> gvsa123: yes, to both
[15:06] <Buyydee> i think tezasaurus' problem is the combination of java with compiz, i had the problem when running another java program (matlab) and got it fixed
[15:06] <gvsa123> stdin: absorbs some more.... :)
[15:06] <zylche> mouse: Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8).
[15:06] <Buyydee> tezasaurus: try running azureus with lowest details (in preferences, appearance)
[15:07] <menllyos> anyone can name me a proper ftp client (preferably graphical) that supports auth and implicit ssl transfers ?
[15:07] <mouse> zylche, at mount-time?
[15:07] <zylche> with fsck.ext3 -b 98304 /dev/sdb1
[15:07] <Buyydee> menllyos gFTP in applications -> internet
[15:07] <mouse> try fsck also with "-pv"
[15:07] <max> hallo??
[15:08] <menllyos> i tried gFTP but i couldnt get any ssl connections to work
[15:08] <max> huhu
[15:08] <zylche> mouse: clear?
[15:08] <max> kann wer deutsch hier??
[15:08] <Pici> !de | max
[15:08] <Buyydee> ja
[15:08] <ubotu> max: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:08] <x3roconf> !de
[15:08] <sunogbaga> menllyos filezilla
[15:08] <stjepang> why is zenity wasting my CPU power - it's 100%! Anyone experiences same?
[15:08] <max> ok thx
[15:08] <stdin> gvsa123: permissions are complicated, but for good reason: you can talor exactly what each user/group can and can not do. for example you could make a file that anyone could write to, but only the user can read (think primitive email :P)
[15:08] <Pici> !ph | sunogbaga
[15:08] <ubotu> sunogbaga: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[15:09] <Tezasaurus> Buyydee: It crashes on startup, even with Compiz/advanced effects turned off
[15:09] <zylche> mouse: "Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8)." "Clear<y>?"
[15:09] <krim_> I just created a new unpriviliged user and used button to start the screensaver, then I switched user and logged in with the unpriviliged one. I switched back, and all the programs I was running with the first user had been closed. Should it be like that?
[15:09] <bazhang> Tezasaurus: perhaps time to switch to a more stable client?
[15:09] <Buyydee> tezasaurus: sry then, that's the only problem i had when running azureus, can't help you anymore :(
[15:10] <gvsa123> stdin: for that it should be 0733?
[15:10] <Tezasaurus> I'm all for switching clients, I never really liked azureus anyway- any recommendations?
[15:10] <menllyos> tried filezilla too, doesnt work, if i enable ssl it still reports to me that i need to enable it... :(
[15:10] <krim> Bittorrent client? rTorrent is very nice.
[15:11] <stdin> gvsa123: 0622, no need for it to be executable ;)
[15:11] <menllyos> deluge is pretty nice for a torrent client...
[15:11] <Andycasss> How can i check php5 logs?
[15:11] <bazhang> Tezasaurus: there are number of optiions availiable--rtorrent is the cli version, transmission, ktorrent, and deluge
[15:11] <gvsa123> stdin: oh... i see.. i thought you had to add that for them to launch it... :)
[15:11] <x3roconf> transmission is good
[15:12] <mouse> zylche, try -nv and answer to all questions "y". this option wouldn't modify filesystem, but you can see how large damage is it.
[15:12] <bazhang> transmission is my choice as well
[15:12] <stdin> gvsa123: to run it, yes. but they don't need to run it, only write to it
[15:12] <krim> Should apps close down when switching between users?
[15:12] <paradox> hey all, <i'm trying to have my ubuntu comp work as a server between 3 other windows based pc's in the house.. <i have 2 ethernet cards in the ubuntu server.. the modem is connected directly to eth0.. and the eth1 isc onnected to a router, which connects all other comptuers..
[15:12] <gvsa123> stdin: hey thanks a lot... i'll try to grasp this first before overloading my neural connections...
[15:13] <paradox> is that the correct setup for internet connection sharing .. file sharing.. resource(printer) sharing.. etc?
[15:13] <Tezasaurus> Actually, I have Transmission, but that has given me problems, too
[15:13] <gvsa123> stdin: i think i get the picture but i won't get into how they would write to a file without launching it first... might fry my brain :)
[15:13] <zylche> mouse: fsck.ext3: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sdb1
[15:13] <gvsa123> stdin: thanks again...
[15:14] <stdin> gvsa123: +x means it can be ran/executed, that is the commands will be executed one by one (for a text file).
[15:14] <mouse> zylche, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/help-please-superblock-has-an-invalid-ext3-journal-460677/
[15:14] <savetheWorld> hello- looking for verification: A normal Ubuntu install will have a "/etc/inittab" file, right?
[15:14] <zylche> mouse: I was just reading that one :P
[15:15] <mouse> :)
[15:15] <stdin> gvsa123: make a directory (under /tmp for example) and practice on it,  that way it doesn't matter if you mess it up (/tmp will be cleared on reboot)
[15:15] <[nix]> Anyone know if its possible to disable all icons?
[15:15] <_para_dox> if there's a website I could be directed to that explains how to setup internet connection sharing using ubuntu.. it'd be greatly appreciated
[15:15] <zylche> thanks for the help so far, mouse
[15:15] <bazhang> [nix]: disable them?
[15:15] <mouse> zylche, you can try to run -yv  but result may be unpredictable...
[15:15] <gvsa123> stdin: ah that's good... i will try that....
[15:15] <davidwinter> Is there a way that I can have Rhythmbox organise my music for me automatically? (as in directory structure)
[15:15] <savetheWorld> bazhang: staggering isn'tit? :-)
[15:16] <mouse> zylche, the best solution is to make image of disk and then try to do any modification of filesystem.
[15:16] <zylche> mouse: hmm.. so should I just try it with -v then?
[15:16] <zylche> Thing is, the disk is 320GB, and its the largest disk I have
[15:17] <[nix]> bazhang: yeah, so my entire system only shows text
[15:17] <bazhang> [nix]: you might look into screen
[15:17] <mouse> zylche, I know, that it 320Gb... fsck.ext3 -b .. -y -v /dev/sdb1
[15:18] <_para_dox> how do I get into a root terminal, so I don't have to use sudo?
[15:18] <mouse> zylche,  but!!! you may loose your data completely...
[15:18] <Baldrun> hi all
[15:18] <Baldrun> I am trying to use nfs in combination with acl under kubuntu, unfortunately I can't find any info on how to set up acl fpr kubuntu, could anyone give me a hint or an idea? google results were not helpful so far
[15:18] <zylche> Checking it manually, mouse
[15:18] <savetheWorld> nix - change your runlevel so the GUI doesnt start
[15:18] <zylche> /hopes to not lose all data
[15:18] <bazhang> !info screen
[15:18] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[15:18] <Pici> !screen
[15:18] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[15:18] <Gues7> is it well known that there is a problem using kernel version 2.6.22-14-i386 and mounting NTFS? I've has a problem using it, however booting to 2.6.20-14-i386 allows me to access NTFS
[15:19] <bazhang> see above [nix]
[15:19] <mouse> Gues7, did you try NTFS-3G?
[15:19] <bazhang> savetheWorld: haha
[15:19] <[nix]> savetheWorld: ???? i need the gui, i just dont want any icons
[15:19] <abdulla> any1 knows how to sign in msn messenger with gmail account?
[15:19] <Gues7> mouse: yeah, I have it working now with 2.6.20, and it was all working grand before I updated
[15:19] <savetheWorld> nix then delete them
[15:19] <fluxy> abdulla: yeah
[15:20] <abdulla> i have made a passport i received a verficiation code but they dont tell me what to do with it fluxy
[15:20] <fluxy> abdulla: you need to create a .Net Passport account with ur gmail address
[15:20] <savetheWorld> has ubuntu stopped using /etc/inittab?
[15:20] <mouse> Gues7, I'm running latest stable 2.6.22-14 with ntfs-3g. what exactly won't work?
[15:20] <[nix]> savetheWorld: lol
[15:20] <bazhang> savetheWorld: no should be there
[15:20] <fluxy> abdulla, use the email addr and the password (not ur gmail login one, the one u gave at passport) to login in msn services
[15:20] <Gues7> mouse: I cant get it to mount at all, I get an error saying the device is busy
[15:20] <Pici> !upstart | savetheWorld
[15:20] <ubotu> savetheWorld: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[15:20] <gvsa123> stdin: so how come the groups listed in the command groups isn't the same with the one's listed in groups settings? these are the same groups they refer to? it's just that the terminal lists everything?
[15:20] <savetheWorld> bazhang: getting people in ##linux saying its missing
[15:21] <_para_dox> how do I get into a root terminal, so I don't have to use sudo
[15:21] <gvsa123> stdin: gui vs terminal i mean
[15:21] <fluxy> abdulla, the verification code is, well, to verify that u actually own that email address.
[15:21] <savetheWorld> Pici: which release did that start with?
[15:21] <bazhang> savetheWorld: now it is Upstart apparently
[15:21] <Pici> savetheWorld: I want to say Feisty, but I may be wrong,
[15:21] <bazhang> oops
[15:21] <savetheWorld> Thank you. (s) :)
[15:21] <Pici> _para_dox: preferably, you dont.  You can use sudo -s to get an interactive sudo session.
[15:22] <stdin> gvsa123: not completely sure, I've never used the groups setting thing (I don't use Gnome) :p
[15:22] <_para_dox> pici- this explanation of using internet connection sharing says I can't use sudo, has to be in a root term
[15:22] <krim> I was logged in as my regular user and created an unpriviliged user. Then I locked the screen and chose to switch user there. After logging into the unpriviliged user and then switching back to my regular user, all apps had been closed (except for the ones running in screen which I could reattach). However, when I switch user without locking the screen first I can switch back without losing my programs. It seems kind of bad that someone is a
[15:22] <nummer9> yyx yyyyyyxxxxxyxxxxxxxxxxXX
[15:22] <gvsa123> stdin: i see...
[15:22] <savetheWorld> _para_dox: that that description is wrong
[15:22] <abdulla> fluxy, you mean i use the hotmail account? to log in my gmail?
[15:22] <Pici> nummer9: dont do that please.
[15:22] <bazhang> nummer9: please stop
[15:22] <abdulla> fluxy, cant i just log in my gmail?
[15:22] <nummer9> sorry
[15:23] <Andycasss> How can i check php5 logs?
[15:23] <Pici> _para_dox: root is disabled on Ubuntu, sudo -s should work fine.
[15:23] <stdin> gvsa123: when I edit groups I do it the old fashioned way, I edit /etc/group :)
[15:23] <abdulla> i read in forums where it says to enable signing in with your gmail you need to verify first and you have  3days to verify before it expires fluxy
[15:23] <pampanga> how do i make an applet enabled for all user?
[15:24] <mouse> pampanga, try to add .desktop file to /usr/share/gnome/autostart
[15:24] <bazhang> Andycasss: the changelog? bugs etc?
[15:25] <fluxy> abdulla, no. you still use ur gmail account for email. but now, having registered with passport, u have a passport account, where the login is the address u gave them (gmail addr) and the password = password supplied
[15:25] <Andycasss> bazhang: no, id like to know whats wrong with my sendmail
[15:25] <Pici> !offtopic | abdulla
[15:25] <ubotu> abdulla: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:25] <fluxy> abdulla, what i mean is your gmail account and ur passport accounts are SEPARATE
[15:25] <mouse> pampanga, with ".desktop" I mean desktop file of your applet. It should be located somewhere in the system. You may just copy-paste from existent one and change program name/command.
[15:25] <gvsa123> stdin: that's <group>: X (don't know) : <process ID> : groups?
[15:25] <savetheWorld> pampanga: make sure it has execute permission for all.
[15:25] <fluxy> abdulla, only the logins are similar, u may have different passwords
[15:25] <bazhang> Andycasss: what errors are you getting (dont paste them here)
[15:25] <Pici> fluxy, abdulla: perhaps you can take this conversation elsewhere, it is not Ubuntu related in the least.
[15:26] <x3roconf> why 'rm' is not printing any error messages when i'm deleting non existent files? like no such file or directory?
[15:26] <gvsa123> stdin: oh group ID...
[15:26] <pampanga> mouse: i'll try it
[15:26] <fluxy> Pici, Point noted, sorry
[15:26] <mouse> x3roconf, "rm -f" ?
[15:26] <stdin> gvsa123: process ID is the ID (number) given to the process, that has nothing to do with users/groups
[15:26] <savetheWorld> x3roconf: because its not an error?
[15:26] <abdulla> i need @gmail to work with pidgins Pici  :p
[15:26] <Andycasss> bazhang: Thats what Id like to know, what errors are there so i could fix em...
[15:26] <fluxy> abdulla, can u chat in pvte?
[15:26] <gvsa123> stdin: whooops...  :)
[15:26] <Andycasss> bazhang: Im trying to make a contact form to send mail, but it doesnt want to work
[15:27] <zylche> If my illegal blocks are millions of blocks apart. That's good for data preservation, right?
[15:27] <x3roconf> rm -f dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd > no error message lol?
[15:27] <zylche> >.>
[15:27] <mouse> zylche, right.
[15:27] <abdulla> fluxy, however my email passport that i used is actually a useing msn address that i use in my msn it means can i make those 2 linked or ?
[15:27] <bullgard4> man 7 rtnetlink says: "Rtnetlink allows the kernel’s routing tables to be read and altered." Can you tell me what is 'rtnetlink' and not, what it allows?
[15:27] <bazhang> http://spikesource.com/docs/cs_1.6.0-linux/doc/php5/php5_quickstartguide.html in here Andycasss?
[15:27] <pampanga> mouse: where is the location of the *.desktop files?
[15:27] <mouse> zylche, it's would be great if many of damaged data would appear under /lost+found.
[15:28] <x3roconf> why its not an error?
[15:28] <mouse> pampanga, do you have any of them in /usr/share/gnome/autostart ?
[15:28] <x3roconf> lol
[15:28] <kritzstapf> can i debootstrap a gutsy system from a running feisty system?
[15:28] <bazhang> abdulla: offtopic
[15:28] <kritzstapf> it says that /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy is missing
[15:28] <pampanga> mouse: just one the gnome-at-session
[15:28] <mouse> pampanga, you may copy it and change command to execute and name.
[15:28] <Andycasss> bazhang: I dont have /var/php5
[15:29] <bazhang> Andycasss: is that a problem?
[15:29] <Andycasss> bazhang: yes, since then i dont have the error logs either..
[15:30] <Ready^Go> hello
[15:30] <sunogbaga> Andycasss i thought php loggin is specified in php.ini
[15:31] <Andycasss> bazhang: never mind, its in my apache log... My sendmail path is wrong, i wonder whats the right path for postfix...
[15:31] <bazhang> Andycasss: /var/log/apache2/error_log do you have that?
[15:31] <Ready^Go> hello ?
[15:31] <bazhang> oops
[15:31] <Andycasss> currently it wants it from /usr/sbin/sendmail
[15:31] <Ready^Go> yhelp me plz ?
[15:31] <Pici> !ask | Ready^Go
[15:31] <ubotu> Ready^Go: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:32] <bazhang> ask away Ready^Go
[15:32] <sunogbaga> Andycasss do u have sendmail installed?
[15:32] <Ready^Go> !ask | i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit
[15:32] <ubotu> i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:33] <Ready^Go> i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit
[15:33] <gvsa123> stdin: my ubuntu time is up... thanks again... :)
[15:33] <krim> Anyone know how to delete an account on Ubuntuforums.org?
[15:33] <bazhang> Ready^Go: there is a problem with flash at the moment
[15:33] <Pici> !flashissues | Ready^Go
[15:33] <ubotu> Ready^Go: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:33] <bazhang> krim: ask on the forums?
[15:34] <Andycasss> sunogbaga: oh, no i dont, ill install it
[15:34] <dhcpless> i keep getting "dhcpd self-test failed." when setting dhcp3 - any tips?
[15:34] <Ready^Go> what diffrent kubunto and ubunto ?
[15:34] <sunogbaga> Andycasss there you go.. :P
[15:34] <bazhang> kde and gnome Ready^Go
[15:34] <krim> Ready^Go: Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE.
[15:34] <Pici> !flavors | Ready^Go
[15:34] <ubotu> Ready^Go: !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[15:35] <sunogbaga> dhcpless that happens when you start dhcp-3?
[15:35] <Ready^Go> what the best in linux ?
[15:35] <Sharpie> my wine iexplore isn't working, i think i deleted some files accidently a while ago. is there a way to reinstall it?
[15:35] <Ready^Go> what are you use bazhang
[15:35] <bazhang> kde Ready^Go
[15:35] <krim> Ready^Go: There is no 'best', it's a matter of taste. Just check out some screenshots and choose the one you think looks good.
[15:36] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, i get "dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file.
[15:36] <dhcpless> The error was"
[15:36] <bazhang> ubuntu gnome might be best for you Ready^Go
[15:36] <Xenobyte> Ready^Go, each has its ups and downs IMHO
[15:36] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, it doesnt tell me wht the error was...
[15:36] <Ready^Go> and from where i download ?
[15:36] <Ready^Go> i from israel
[15:36] <Vorbote> Sharpie: the wine-config (or is it -configure?) command will repair your $HOME/.wine directory.
[15:36] <krim> Ready^Go: from the official ubuntu site
[15:36] <sunogbaga> dhcpless try to paste /var/log/syslog
[15:37] <Pici> Ready^Go: Find a link close to you from http://www.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <Ready^Go> can you give me link ?
[15:37] <bazhang> Ready^Go: there should be a local mirror near you
[15:37] <Ready^Go> yhank yopuuu
[15:37] <bazhang> no worries Ready^Go
[15:37] <Ready^Go> 10q very much :)
[15:37] <Sharpie> Vorbote: it's neither
[15:37] <bazhang> haha
[15:37] <T7P> Hello, all. I'm looking to remove Ubuntu 7.10 from this machine (I need the space and have it on another machine as it is). I'm running Windows and I'm using Norton Partition magic to do everything. I just want to know if it is safe to completely format the partition, or will I run into troubles with GRUB?
[15:37] <lukasz> Hey People
[15:37] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, whats the pastebin address?
[15:37] <lukasz> Amarok crashed my system :(
[15:37] <Ready^Go> kde i wanna to see ? its ok
[15:37] <Ready^Go> ?
[15:38] <adam> anyone have any tips on getting suspend and hibernate to work with an nvidia card (nvidia geforce go 7400) ?
[15:38] <bazhang> T7P: not really an ubuntu question--ask in ##windows
[15:38] <Pici> T7P: Its safe, but you probably want to run fixmbr afterwards, see ##windows for more info.
[15:38] <krim> T7P: I think you might have to 'repair' the MBR with the windows installation disc. That's what I've had to do in the past, but it's easy
[15:38] <T7P> Thanks!
[15:38] <Vorbote> Sharpie: Well, type the assorted collection. It is one of them (type wine- at a shell prompt and hit tab). That worked the last time I used wine (almost a year ago...)
[15:38] <lukasz> !find beep media player aac+
[15:38] <ubotu> Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beepcore-c-dev, beepcore-c0 (and 1 others)
[15:38] <mouse> Sharpie, there is an ie6 project that download and install ie6 within wine. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[15:38] <Ready^Go> where i see kde ?
[15:38] <krim> Ready^Go: Use google
[15:38] <Ready^Go> bazhang
[15:39] <Ready^Go> in pic ?
[15:39] <lukasz> Amarok is bad :(
[15:39] <Sharpie> mouse: i know, i just want to remove my wine iexplore...
[15:39] <Sharpie> Vorbote: doesn't exist
[15:39] <Onyx> Hmmm.... looking for some help with compiz/emerald... the themes only seem to be applying to the window borders, not the taskbar and scroll bars... anyone know how to fix this?
[15:39] <bazhang> you have google Ready^Go? look for kubuntu--first link! :}
[15:39] <Xenobyte> Ready^Go, you could for instance go to http://image.google.com/ and type in "kde screenshot"
[15:39] <Ready^Go> http://fedoranews.org/krishnan/review/kde3.2/fullsize/kde1.png ?
[15:39] <Ready^Go> this it ?
[15:39] <Xenobyte> er, sorry, http://images.google.com/
[15:39] <Xenobyte> there ya go
[15:40] <lukasz> beep media player works :)
[15:40] <bazhang> err close enough Ready^Go that is fedora though
[15:40] <Xenobyte> honestly, though, a screenshot doesn't tell you much
[15:40] <Ready^Go> amm
[15:40] <Vorbote> Sharpie: it may have another name, that's why I suggested to try out different commands that start with "wine-" (and gave you  the easiest way to find them out).
[15:40] <Ready^Go> but type kde
[15:40] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49692/
[15:40] <Onyx> Hmmm.... looking for some help with compiz/emerald... the themes only seem to be applying to the window borders, not the taskbar and scroll bars... anyone know how to fix this?
[15:40] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/ Ready^Go
[15:40] <Ready^Go> kubunto its kde ?
[15:40] <bazhang> serioussssly off topic I know :}
[15:40] <Sharpie> Vorbote: yes, i did that and then i said it didn't exist
[15:41] <Xenobyte> Ready^Go, yes
[15:41] <Pici> Onyx: Emerald themes are only for the window borders, GTK themes apply to the scroll bars, buttons, etc.
[15:41] <kafkas> MERHABA
[15:41] <krim> I was logged in as my regular user and created an unpriviliged user. Then I locked the screen and chose to switch user there. After logging into the unpriviliged user and then switching back to my regular user, all apps had been closed (except for the ones running in screen which I could reattach). However, when I switch user without locking the screen first I can switch back without losing my programs. It seems kind of bad that someone is a
[15:41] <Onyx> Pici: Ahhh okay, I was under the impression that GTK+
[15:41] <Vorbote> Sharpie: hmmm... Then try "win" as starter (as I told you, haven't used wine in a long while).
[15:41] <Onyx> & emerald couldn't run together
[15:41] <lukasz> !find beepmediaplayer plugins
[15:42] <lukasz> !find beep media player plugins
[15:42] <ubotu> Package/file beepmediaplayer does not exist in gutsy
[15:42] <ubotu> Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beepcore-c-dev, beepcore-c0 (and 1 others)
[15:42] <Pici> Onyx: Perhaps you were thinking of Metacity and emerald
[15:42] <Pici> !usage > lukasz (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:42] <lukasz> ok
[15:42] <stephantom> hey everyone, just a quick question. whenever you install custom themes these are installed in ~/.themes and are thus not available for the root user. applications launched via gksu can't adopt the themes. wouldn't a soft link in /root solve all this?
[15:42] <lukasz> thnx
[15:42] <Sharpie> Vorbote: already did that as well, nothing similar
[15:42] <chealdo> hi guys whats up you have some good news for the time management software for ubuntu internet cafe?
[15:42] <Ready^Go> bazhang Xenobyte its amaizing
[15:43] <stephantom> of course this would only work for single-user installs
[15:43] <Xenobyte> Ready^Go, I like KDE myself
[15:43] <kafkas> SELAM KANAL
[15:43] <kafkas> BEN0130 ANLIYAN YOKMU
[15:43] <Ready^Go> 10q :)
[15:43] <lukasz> I got 0 messages?
[15:43] <CapaH> What would I use to edit FLASH (.fla) files, in Ubuntu?
[15:43] <Vorbote> Sharpie: are you sure you have installed wine at all? The file listing here <http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=wine&version=gutsy&arch=i386> suggests I'm not giving bad advice... ;-)
[15:44] <sunogbaga> dhcpless configure dhcpd to listen on a specifc interface because atm you have 3 ifaces
[15:44]  * kafkas selam kanal
[15:44] <lukasz> hmm
[15:44] <Pici> !il | kafkas
[15:44] <ubotu> kafkas: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:
[15:44] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[15:44] <Sharpie> Vorbote: my question wasn't "i'm mentally ill and i think i have wine". i use wine on a regular basis (for guitar pro) :/
[15:44] <acollins> can anyone tell me how to make sure GDM only runs after nfs-common has run?
[15:44] <Vorbote> Sharpie: btw, the command is wineprefixcreate
[15:45] <acollins> I've change the symlink to be S21 instead of S13 which should start it after nfs at S20
[15:45] <Sharpie> Vorbote: yeah but that's not what i need. i need to remove the gecko ie engine =\
[15:45] <ompaul> !tr | kafkas
[15:45] <ubotu> kafkas: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[15:45] <acollins> but my home dir is still not mounted by the time GDM is up...
[15:45] <ompaul> Pici, pm
[15:45] <lukasz> still no pm?
[15:45] <sunogbaga> dhcpless configure dhcpd to listen on a specifc interface because atm you have 3 ifaces
[15:45] <ompaul> !test
[15:45] <ubotu> Failed.
[15:45] <danzigrules> [ Rule 3 ] I did a very good job ;p
[15:46] <Vorbote> Sharpie: that's not possible yet. You'll need to move your present .wine file somewhere else and start from scratch. (You should have stated that up front :-))
[15:46] <ompaul> !test
[15:46] <danzigrules> [ Rule 3 ] I did a very good job ;p
[15:46] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, how do i do that? i modified /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf but is there another file?
[15:46] <Sharpie> Vorbote: ok, well, nvm then
[15:47] <Vorbote> Sharpie: there is a script out there that will allow you to install IE6 in a different directory. You can install your other software there then.
[15:47] <Vorbote> Sharpie: but I don't recall the name, :-(
[15:47] <Sharpie> Vorbote: my problem wasn't a non-functional ie (i just use ies4linux). i just wanted to remove/fix the gecko engine
[15:48] <sunogbaga> dhcpless that is the correct file.. however you have 3 ifaces vmnet8 vmnet1 and eth0
[15:48] <lukasz> I'm gonna wait patiently :) for the pm in forums
[15:48] <dhcpless> sunogbaga, those are vmware's i killed vmware but still get the same error
[15:49] <Vorbote> That's not possible AFAIK. Once it is installed, it is installed for good. I think you need to declare all the IE6 related libraries as non-native to stop wine from trying to install the gecko engine.
[15:49] <dhcpless> sunogbaga,can you look here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49693/ it's my dhcpd.conf
[15:49] <dhcpless> ?
[15:50] <krim> Is there a way I can lock an unpriviliged user so it can only see what's in /home/unpriviliged ?
[15:51] <albator> Hi im installing ubunto 7.10, I choose "start / install" from the boot menu but it always seems to try an run in live mode, is there any param i can force the install with?
[15:51] <vox> anyone around who is very familiar with ext2/3 filesystem? wondering if there's any harm to be done by setting the reserve block count to 0 on a storage drive?
[15:51] <vox> albator: once it has booted in live mode, it gives you the option to install