[05:54] <kdeedk> grte connected directly to each other, or via a central device such as hub, switch, router?
[05:54] <arrenlex> Hehe... 666 are the coolest permissions ever.
[05:54] <grte> Connected via a router.
[05:54] <StoneNote> Xs142, now I find that really odd. give me a second to look something up
[05:54] <foutrelis> viper: Try giving it 755
[05:54] <whtvrrob> stonenote, i believe i may be, not sure actually, i can change it to a specific kernel if that'd be better
[05:54] <StoneNote> whtvrrob, if you want this to compile, that might be a good idea
[05:55] <whtvrrob> stonenote, ok this is gonna sound stupid, but how would i do that
[05:55] <moeru> where could I mount an iso? cdrom?
[05:55] <viper> THANK YOU
[05:55] <viper> FIXED
[05:55] <viper> wew
[05:55] <arrenlex> !iso | moeru
[05:55] <ubotu> moeru: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> moeru,  where? about anywhere. /media/iso is a good spot
[05:55] <foutrelis> Glad to know :)
[05:55] <viper> bows
[05:55] <moeru> That'll work
[05:56] <moeru> I keep getting iso does not exist
[05:56] <viper> where does myth tv store all its mp3s? i wanna add a bunch
[05:56] <beg1689> anyone here know how i can start nautilus without spawning the desktop
[05:56] <StoneNote> whtvrrob, for once, you gotta reboot and when grub comes up, pick the 2.6.17-11-generic kernel and not any special one you've compiled
[05:56] <arrenlex> moeru: Counterintuitively, you need to create the folder before you can use it. =P
[05:57] <ahave_> is there a reason why a BIOS would not allow booting from a liveCD?
[05:57] <beg1689> cause its old
[05:57] <arrenlex> !who | beg1689
[05:57] <ubotu> beg1689: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:57] <threeonefour1> sorry i got disconnected
[05:57] <whtvrrob> stonenote, ok then, i'm not running anything special, just the standard 2.6.17-11-generic, since i don't have another one listed at grub
[05:57] <ahave_> beg1689, what are the requirements?
[05:57] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ if the bios isn't set for the CD-rom as your first boot device, it wont boot
[05:58] <moeru> ...I feel dumb now =p
[05:58] <Minoru> ahave, you might need to allow booting from a cd.
[05:58] <beg1689> ahave_: there should be an option in your BIOS that determines the boot order
[05:58] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, i can boot the CD, just not run a liveCD
[05:58] <ahave_> beg1689, Thinkpad_Guru: i understand all that
[05:58] <StoneNote> whtvrrob, odd.
[05:58] <beg1689> oh
[05:58] <musashiden> hello everyone
[05:58] <beg1689> what seems to be the problem then?
[05:58] <arrenlex> !hi | musashiden
[05:58] <ubotu> musashiden: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:58] <ahave_> beg1689, Thinkpad_Guru: my problem is when the cd is trying to run
[05:58] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  maybe it was a bad burn, try buring the iso image on brand name media at 2x or 4x
[05:58] <Tonren> Agrajag: Ugh... it's still not working with me.
[05:58] <StoneNote> whtvrrob, go to #vmware and show them that pastebin. they might have a better idea
[05:58] <foutrelis> heydude: How is everything going with you problem?
[05:58] <musashiden> i was wondering, how do i add a ntfs disk to my new ubuntu installation? i just want to retrieve some files from it.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> pajama: still alive?
[05:59] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  its a common issue for me personally
[05:59] <StoneNote> whtvrrob, I'm stumped
[05:59] <pajama> tonyyarusso: it is mounted in /var/www/iso as a soft link
[05:59] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, i have tried 2 diff distros both work on my laptop and neither on this older pc
[05:59] <threeonefour1> as i was saying i cannot change the permisitions of a folder    i tried su   chmod -R 777 new
[05:59] <arrenlex> !ntfs > musashiden
[05:59] <foutrelis> threeonefour1: try sudo. And be careful with that -R
[05:59] <arrenlex> threeonefour1: You mean, sudo chmod -R 777 new
[06:00] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  this may sound dumb (personal experience talking :)  ) but is the cd-rom in working order?
[06:00] <rootnode> PROBLEM: suddenly my /home was in read-only mode. rebooting didn't help and remounting it with "mount -o remount,rw /home" fails. ideas anyone?
[06:00] <tom47> beg1689 mc is quite handy instead of nautilus in cli
[06:00] <heydude> foutrelis, just restarted and it worked like a charm
[06:00] <fog_proxy> Hi all. I did 'insmod xxx' in ubuntu, and after that I reboot the PC, the module xxx has auto added to the system. Which file configed this? How can I remove it from auto insmod?
[06:00] <heydude> thank you
[06:00] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, as far as i know it is
[06:00] <Dr_willis> mc is darn handy :)
[06:00] <foutrelis> heydude: Nice :) You 're welcome.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> pajama: To what, the root of the CD?  Assuming ubuntu/ is a folder at the root level of the CD-ROM, you need deb http://the.ip.addy/iso/ubuntu release sections as your apt line
[06:00] <heydude> :)
[06:00] <pajama> tonyyarusso: sudo mount ~/downloads/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:00] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, i mean.. it boots and displays a liveCD menu. just causes a reboot when i try to install
[06:00] <arrenlex> pajama: Don't need that -t, it's auto detected.
[06:00] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  how old are we talking about? like pentium 166 kindof old, or something within the last 4 years or so?
[06:01] <threeonefour1> arrenlex, no i mean i  su    then i chmod
[06:01] <pajama> tonyyarusso: I dont have an "apt line"... I'm booting the netboot installer using Grub
[06:01] <fog_proxy> any idea?
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> pajama: /media/iso == /var/www/iso?
[06:01] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, post 4year old pc. socket 7 hardware
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> pajama: Well, however the netboot one prompts for it
[06:01] <pajama> tonyyarusso: yeah: ln -s /media/iso /var/www/iso
[06:01] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, amd-k6
[06:01] <fog_proxy> How to remove a module from auto load when system boot?
[06:01] <shatrat> ahave_, the liveCD doesnt work on all hardware.  you might try safe settings and stuff like pci=noacpi and such, but if it gives you trouble it might just be best to download the alternate installer.
[06:01] <Sonic_13> how do i set up apache to host a web page?
[06:01] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  there really is not reason why it shouldn't work.  Maybe try flashing the bios with the newest firmware?
[06:01] <pajama> tonyyarusso: in the installer I put the IP address of the Apache server and the subdirectory, which is iso
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Sonic_13: sudo aptitude install apache2
[06:02] <beg1689> Sonic_13: /join #apache
[06:02] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_  Or set the bios to failsafe defaults.
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> pajama: Put iso/ubuntu instead of just iso
[06:02] <pajama> tonyyarusso: but then the installer complaints: "The installer failed to download a file from the mirror... "
[06:02] <pajama> tonyyarusso: I can surf the CD using Firefox, so it is mounted and you can see it in Apache
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> pajama: Good, should just be the folder then
[06:03] <beg1689> Sonic_13: read the docs, you probably dont have to do anthing, just stick your index.html in the right spot, or change its Root to where your web files are
[06:03] <threeonefour1> how do i change the permistions of a folder
[06:03] <beg1689> chmod
[06:03] <bimberi> fog_proxy: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:03] <Xs142> StoneNote: Come up with anything?
[06:03] <Thinkpad_Guru> threeonefour1 sudo chmod <permissions>
[06:03] <pajama> tonyyarusso: it is another problem, because when I put something like "/ubuntubadmount" it complaints with a red screen
[06:03] <StoneNote> Xs142, nope.  and I'm falling asleep in my chair so I need to hit the hay
[06:04] <threeonefour1> big1689, nope didn't work
[06:04] <fog_proxy> bimberi: thanks. can I just remove it from where it added?
[06:04] <Xs142> StoneNote: oh ok, thanks for trying atleast :)
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> pajama: When browsing the CD, do you see folders like iso/ubuntu/dists ?
[06:04] <pajama> tonyyarusso: but when I put /iso it gives me this strange error... also, the /var/log/apache2/access.log shows it gets (200) the Release file correctly
[06:04] <fog_proxy> bimberi: the module is not loaded before, just after I did insmod once
[06:04] <pajama> tonyyarusso: yes I see those folders
[06:04] <fog_proxy> bimberi: I think after I did that command, ubuntu auto add the load policy of it to somewhere
[06:05] <threeonefour1> beg1689, nope didn't work
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> pajama: does it say which file it can't get?
[06:05] <fog_proxy> bimberi: I noticed in /etc/modprobe.d/ a new file has created
[06:05] <fog_proxy> bimberi: can I just remove it?
[06:05] <pajama> tonyyarusso: nope
[06:05] <pajama> tonyyarusso: the md5 sum is correct
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> pajama: Are you specifying sections when you do this?  Your CD only has main and restricted, so any attempts at universe or multiverse will fail
[06:06] <pajama> tonyyarusso: I tried what you said but using the alternate install iso also gives me the same error
[06:06] <pajama> tonyyarusso: I have not get to that part yet
[06:06] <duck_> how do i enable universe?
[06:06] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, how does one go about updating the bios? i have never done so
[06:06] <pajama> tonyyarusso: maybe is the netboot image the one failing
[06:06] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, i have the current bios #, but how do i find updates for it?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> pajama: Could be.  You tried the alternate with iso/ubuntu as your subdir, and that failed?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> hmm
[06:07] <kalorin> smokin!
[06:07] <ubuntu> !iso
[06:07] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:07] <pajama> tonyyarusso: yes, it failed just the same
[06:07] <shatrat> ahave_, I think flashing the bios might be a little extreme.  if the CD integrity check is ok then I would try the alternative installer.
[06:07] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ that might be a challenge.  Is it an oem PC? or a custom build one?  If it is like an HP or something you can find bios flashes from their website, or else, the manufactureer of the motherboard
[06:08] <Minoru> Problem: Ok, I have been trying to get my wide screen monitor(asp;16:10) to run properly. Because there isn't a resolution setting sutible for my monitor, I downloaded the program 914resolution. It installed fine and ran fine, but only once. Now, the Terminal wont even acknowledge that 914 is installed. I really need to be able to use the force resolution function, but I can't. Does anyone know what could be the problem?
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> pajama: I'd probably have to read up on this netboot thing more to get a sense of what's going on, but meanwhile I need to get to bed.  Good luck, or I'll see you another day?
[06:08] <ksnipa> was wondering if anyone knew about any good open source command line diciontary, word searcher, spell checker type programs
[06:08] <Thinkpad_Guru> sharat, you may be right, although it has worked for me in the past.
[06:08] <ksnipa> i came across writers work bench but it doesnt seem to be open source
[06:08] <pajama> tonyyarusso: thanks a lot bye
[06:08] <tom47> duck_ the easiest way is probably System>Administration>Software Sources
[06:08] <ahave_> shatrat, trying to run a CD check causes a reboot
[06:08] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ have you tried the text install??
[06:09] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, no. is that a seperate .iso?
[06:09] <Thinkpad_Guru> no
[06:09] <shatrat> ahave_, well...what speed did you burn the CD at, maybe it is corrupt? although I dont think corruption would cause a reboot.
[06:09] <Xeper> Does anyone else here run the ATI SB600 chipset?
[06:10] <Minoru> Xeper: No, why?
[06:10] <Thinkpad_Guru> shatrat he said the cd works on his other machines...I guess he can't even get the CD to read
[06:10] <Dralid> How do check free disk space on Edgy Eft? Either through terminal or graphical tool?
[06:10] <Xeper> Minoru: Because I need help getting it to work...
[06:11] <Minoru> Xeper: Whats wrong? Is it just not working?
[06:11] <Xeper> Minoru: Yes.
[06:11] <userund> !op
[06:11] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[06:11] <Xeper> Minoru: Apparently it wasn't supported until kernel 2.6.20, and even when I tried feisty it wasn't built into there either.
[06:11] <Madpilot> userund, it's just a netsplit, nothing the ops can do
[06:11] <userund> Madpilot, oh, ok.
[06:12] <userund> sorry then.
[06:12] <Madpilot> ubotu, netsplit | userund
[06:12] <ubotu> userund: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:12] <Minoru> Xeper: I'm sorry, but, what chipset was that?
[06:12] <Xeper> Minoru: ATI SB600
[06:13] <Minoru> Ok, one second.
[06:14] <Dralid> How do check free disk space on Edgy Eft?
[06:14] <shatrat> Dralid, df -h
[06:14] <Anabelle> hi
[06:14] <shatrat> moo
[06:14] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, can you link me to the text installer? i can only seem to find the liveCD version
[06:15] <Dralid> thank you, shatrat!
[06:15] <Anabelle> can i limit my internet connection speed to 5ks?
[06:15] <pyrotix> I unrar'd a file and now I cannot find it? omg. What do I do?
[06:15] <Tonren> Why won't mysqld accept connections on my Ubuntu Dapper server?
[06:15] <naught101> shatrat: does that work for / as well, considering other drives may be mounted under it?
[06:15] <kdeedk> Tonren search for it... find / -name NameOfTheFile
[06:15] <pyrotix> I mean: I unrar'd a file and now I cannot find it. omg. What do I do?
[06:15] <Tonren> kdeedk: mistell...?
[06:15] <kdeedk> Pyromancer search for it... find / -name NameOfTheFile
[06:16] <shatrat> naught101, it lists by partition
[06:16] <kdeedk> Tonren yup .. /me runs away .. sorry
[06:16] <Anabelle> Can i limit the speed of my internet connection using kubuntu?
[06:16] <moeru> Anyone recommend a good image viewer for looking at images across the network? (got a file server with a metric ton of wallpapers on it)
[06:16] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ sorry i wasn't thinking, you need the cd to actually load to the point of the menu to select install to load from text install, I don't know what cd you have, I have the DVD which allows regular install, oem, and text instal
[06:16] <naught101> ah..
[06:17] <ubuntu> hey is someone try to install test drive in UBuntu
[06:18] <kdeedk> ubuntu be more specific.
[06:18] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ you can't even get the cd to recognize right? One more thing, doing the GUI install requires considerable RAM, you might be interested with your old K7 unless it has around 512mb ram to go and get the OEM CD or full DVD anyway.
[06:18] <Anabelle> are my messages being read?
[06:18] <Anabelle> i feel like talking alone
[06:18] <ubuntu> kdeedk Test Drive is game for windows
[06:18] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle you want to limit the speed?
[06:19] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, i just have an option on the liveCD to install/start, start in safe graphics mode, check for CD defects, mem test, and boot from HD
[06:19] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle please explain what you mean, why do you want to cap yourself?
[06:19] <ubuntu> and i ask if someone try to install this game  3gb.
[06:19] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, CD will boot and recognize just fine. just reboots whenever i select one of the options
[06:19] <Anabelle> yes, i have an old laptop downloading stuff all the time, and it's eating up my bandwith, i use two other boxes
[06:19] <Anabelle> i just want to "cap" the laptop
[06:20] <kdeedk> ubuntu Thank you! :) .. you can cedega-transgaming .
[06:20] <kdeedk> !cedega | ubuntu
[06:20] <ubotu> ubuntu: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:20] <naught101> test drive? game?
[06:20] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave_ ok ok I thought it was an actual bios issue. If the installer doesnt work, get the oem version which lets you install from a text installer.  Don't do the OEM install though
[06:21] <kdeedk> naught101 I think that was from Need For Speed, iirc
[06:21] <ubuntu> naugh101 yest test drive unlimited for pc
[06:21] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, define OEM?
[06:21] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, can you limit the bandwidth with the program?
[06:21] <Minoru> Xeper: Sorry, I checked a few patch websites to see if they have something, but they didn't. :-/
[06:21] <ubuntu> yeyeyeye
[06:21] <Anabelle> i dont think so, the program is the konsole
[06:21] <Minoru> Xeper: I'm quite sorry.
[06:21] <ubuntu> kdeedk: cedea want to pay for the program
[06:22] <morla> hi, I build a 2.6.20, and lost the framebuffer. Already checked all options and googled for hours, I think I configured everything corrctly..
[06:22] <kdeedk> ubuntu you could try cedega-transgaming
[06:22] <shatrat> ahave_, here is a link http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:22] <Thinkpad_Guru> ahave _original equipment manufactered They make a cd for people specifically building PCs that install ubuntu.  I *believe* it has a text install option, which is probably what you will be needing.  I know my Full DVD has that option.
[06:22] <Xeper> Minoru: Damn... is there any idea of when something may be up?
[06:23] <ahave_> Thinkpad_Guru, shatrat: thanks
[06:23] <Xeper> Minoru: I appreciate you looking into that for me
[06:23] <ubuntu> kdeedk: from where i can try it
[06:23] <bimberi> fog_proxy: yes I think you can (just in case nobody else answered)
[06:23] <Anabelle> am i looking for an impossible?
[06:24] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle I really havn't come across a program like that.  I'm sure they are out there though.   Are you behind a router? Can you confure the router to cap your bandwidth to your PC?
[06:24] <shatrat> Anabelle, well, if you cant limit the speed used by the program, you can use a traffic shaper to limit traffic, but im not familiar with them
[06:24] <Minoru> Xeper: Not sure. But something is bound to come up. I'd still ask around on the irc though.
[06:24] <Anabelle> im behind a router, but my ISP wont let me change the router's settings
[06:24] <shatrat> Anabelle, but if youre using bit torrent or something lots of clients will let you limit the bandwith up and down
[06:25] <fog_proxy> bimberi: OK. thanks, has done that :)
[06:25] <Anabelle> yes i know, but i want to limit the kubuntu dapper to edgy update
[06:25] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, your ISP has no control over your router. What kind of router is it? Linksys? Netgear?
[06:25] <lkthomas> anyone using hp printer in ubuntu ?
[06:25] <shatrat> Thinkpad_Guru, well, they might if its an ISP issued router.
[06:25] <Anabelle> HuaHwei, yes they have the password..
[06:26] <shatrat> lkthomas, I am
[06:26] <null_> I installed Madwifi, do I have to reboot, or can I restart a specific service or something?
[06:26] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, you mean modem?
[06:26] <lkthomas> shatrat, are you using hplip ?
[06:26] <Anabelle> it's an ADSL modem in Router Mode
[06:26] <shatrat> lkthomas, yes, although I dont mess with it much.
[06:26] <lkthomas> shatrat, we are using hplip too, I just wondering how could I send fax to that allinone printer
[06:27] <shatrat> lkthomas, I dont know anything about faxes. mine is a photosmart
[06:27] <lkthomas> hmm
[06:28] <Minoru> Oh, speaking or which, I need some help.. I have a monitor with an aspect ratio of 16:10(1440x900). I downloaded the program 914resolution to fix it. Things seemed to be going good, but then the program stopped working. I've reinstalled it many times, but that did not help. I don't get any error messages other than "914resolution no found." Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[06:28] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, hmm, yeah a traffic shaper would be a suggestion, although I havnt ever played with one.
[06:28] <shatrat> Minoru, I believe its named 915resolution
[06:28] <Checkka> if I execture a make install, does that move all the files that were compiled with 'make' to the proper directories?
[06:28] <Anabelle> is a traffic shaper a program?
[06:28] <Anabelle> can i find it in the repository?
[06:28] <shatrat> Anabelle, its a type of program, yes. I imagine there is something appropriate in the repos but I dont know anything about it.
[06:28] <genii> Anabelle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2164210
[06:29] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle Yes
[06:29] <ubuntu> kdeedk: from whre to download cedega
[06:29] <genii> Anabelle: What you want to do is there
[06:29] <beg1689> can someone tell me how to start nautilus without starting the desktop part of it? or if thats even possible?
[06:30] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii damn, I'm just going to shut up from now on :)
[06:30] <Minoru> Shatrat: .... ah... ^^;;;;; That it would be. (I can't believe I made a mistake like that.) They HAVE a 914resolution, but it's not what I have... Thank you SOO very much.
[06:30] <Anabelle> ill take a look thanx
[06:30] <shatrat> Minoru, im like an idiot savant with computers
[06:30] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: LOL Nah don't do that :)
[06:30] <tues> question, ubuntu stop installing at 67%!
[06:30] <tues> what should i do?
[06:30] <shatrat> tues, first step: panic
[06:31] <tues> im at that point XD
[06:31] <shatrat> tues, using the LiveCD installer?
[06:31] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii never heard of a modem-router before though.. I guess some places/isp's do different things
[06:31] <tues> yes
[06:31] <shatrat> tues, are you still in it?
[06:31] <tues> talking on it right now this is a time based question
[06:31] <Anabelle> yes, they do different things
[06:31] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: Theres a lot of them these days, SpeedStream from sympatico mostly
[06:32] <Anabelle> and here at least internet sucks compared to the resto of the world
[06:32] <Anabelle> lol
[06:32] <shatrat> tues, so youre on the liveCD with the installer stuck at 67%?  you could try killing it and starting over.  Unless youre in the middle of repartitioning or shrinking ntfs or something there shouldnt be any harm in that.
[06:32] <shatrat> tues, and if it keeps giving trouble, use the alternate installer.   the LiveCD is sometimes more trouble than it's worth.
[06:32] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii I just use a linksys modem with a Endian firewall/router on an old Celeron...
[06:32] <tues> no its not stuck yet it freezes at 67 and ive tries twice now
[06:33] <Anabelle> the install a modem wich acts as a routerm, only when it wants to, and when it's messed up the take up to 30 day to get to you and "reset" the modem :(
[06:33] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, huh where are you at?
[06:33] <tues> is there a big differance withthe alternat CD and this one?
[06:33] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: You don't wanna know my setup ROFL
[06:33] <Anabelle> Bogota, Colombia
[06:33] <erateca> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu in a dell notebook and am currently in the partitioner... my problem is that there appears a tiny fat16 partition and the other ntfs windows partition. No that I try to add a fat32 partition, an ext3 partition and a linux-swap partition, it tells me that I have a maximum of 4 logical partitions. How can I install these partitions?
[06:33] <Anabelle> my ISP is ETB, they suck
[06:34] <shatrat> Anabelle, well, at least you can drink good coffee while youre waiting for them to fix the connection.
[06:34] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii cmon? what is it a T1 and a rack of cisco routers and switches?
[06:34] <Anabelle> LOL!! im drinking coffee right now!
[06:34] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle I mean geographically :)
[06:34] <shatrat> Anabelle, is there any way to get your own ruter and use the modem just as a modem?
[06:35] <Anabelle> yes i guess, but haven0t tried
[06:35] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, guess coffee would mean not in the US. hehe
[06:35] <shatrat> Anabelle, you could even set up one of your linux boxes as a router if it has enough ethernet cards or you have a switch.
[06:35] <Anabelle> I do have a switch
[06:36] <Anabelle> with 4 PCs and the Modem/router plugged in
[06:36] <tues> is the alternat cd the 6.06 cd?
[06:36] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: At home where I am right now , no :) I have 2 ADSL lines, one is on a Gnet modem which is cascaded to 3 4port switches. The other line is on a speed stream6520 which does the wifi and is cascaded to 2 16 port switches
[06:37] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: At work we have 2 PRI lines and an oc3
[06:37] <Anabelle> tues: no, there is an alternate CD for each version of Ubuntu, 6.06 has one and 6.10 has another one
[06:37] <tues> k how do i find the 6.10 cd?
[06:37] <tues> alternate
[06:37] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii wow, uh wow, I have a 16 port switch, but is only using 3 ports...hehe See I'm cool too :)
[06:38] <Anabelle> im not cool then? im from the third world!!! cooler than anyone
[06:38] <Thinkpad_Guru> genni I have crappy government T1 at work...
[06:38] <shatrat> tues,  http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:38] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: I have a couple clusters here, thats why all the switches
[06:38] <shatrat> tues, or even better look for the torrent, then you dont have to worry about it being corrupt
[06:38] <genii> Anabelle :)
[06:39] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii cool, you render graphics, or are they servers?
[06:39] <Anabelle> hey what's that with getting the torrent so it wont be corrupt :| ?
[06:39] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii I didn't really mean that server part..  That didn't come out right..
[06:40] <Anabelle> i installed 6.06 from an original (shipit) CD because all the 6.10 Cds i downloaded said to be corrupt
[06:40] <Anabelle> even the alternates
[06:40] <genii> Thinkpad_Guru: Right now I have 1 install cluster. They all pxe boot and install Dapper headless. this is for my work, we are distributing them. My other cluster is just something I am playing around with. Thinking about a rendering farm
[06:40] <shatrat> Anabelle, bit torrent automatically checksums the completed file and checks for corruption.  HTTP has some error detection b/c of TCP but its more likely to be corrupt than bit torrent
[06:41] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, you may be burning them too fast try a slow speed like 4x
[06:41] <Anabelle> i thought it was my laptop's drive
[06:41] <shatrat> Anabelle, although as tp_g said it might be that you were burning too fast, I burn at 2x always
[06:41] <Anabelle> i did try burning at 4x
[06:41] <Thinkpad_Guru> genii, neat.  I wish I knew more about clustering, and had some money for the hardware.
[06:42] <Anabelle> and didn't work either so i installed 6.06 and now im upgrading to 6.10 and eating up my bandwith so i want to limit the update LOL
[06:42] <Anabelle> i guess i should just sleep and wait
[06:43] <genii> Anabelle did you install the trickle program? It was on the link I gave
[06:43] <Anabelle> yes i saw it, but i can't install anything while upgrading... can i?
[06:43] <cables> Hey does anyone know what version of AbiWord supports OpenDocument?
[06:44] <moeru> ok..how would one get into a directory with spaces in .wine?
[06:44] <cables> If anyone had an answer to my abiword question in the last 10 seconds, I missed it... I accidentally left the channel.
[06:44] <moeru> isn't it /name\ of \directory
[06:44] <Anabelle> cables: there was no answer son't worry
[06:44] <beg1689> is it possible to start nautilus without creating the desktop
[06:44] <deepbluegene> hi. i just changing my ubuntu 6.10's settings and activated screensaver 'endgame' it iwas working fine in preview mode but when it becomes active after set time of 1 min it was just a black screen instead of screensaver.i have nvidia card and beryl is installed and working fine.
[06:44] <cables> Anabelle, :)
[06:44] <genii> Anabelle: Ah, OK. No, the apt-get will be locked up.
[06:44] <shatrat> moeru, or you could just type the first bit and use Tab to copmlete
[06:45] <moeru> Ah ha.God bless autocomplete
[06:45] <Anabelle> yes i know... i thought i coul find like a slider to limit conection speed on the system settings or something...
[06:45] <Anabelle> i am sometimes to optimistic with kubuntu
[06:46] <shatrat> Anabelle, it's not something most people want to do.  When im downloading everybody else just has to deal with it.
[06:46] <adjioev> I use some gedit or eclipse and sometimes if I want to select text i use shift- arrow up/down. Usually it works but sometimes instead of selecting it prints "2" or "8". how do i switch this mode off?
[06:46] <Anabelle> LOL right but when im downloading I have to deal with it :@
[06:46] <oiahsdf> how do i boot an ubuntu livecd so that it uses the vesa driver for X rather than ati?
[06:47] <Anabelle>  ok Thankyou for all the help, i've never been to the IRC channel, i loved it
[06:47] <oiahsdf> i'm trying to help someone over the phone so forgive me if this would be obvious with the computer in front of me
[06:47] <odix> how can i unmount a windows partition? I'm using qtparted to resize it
[06:47] <Anabelle> see you on the dark side of the moon
[06:48] <odix> it says to umount /dev/hda1, but that gives me fstab errors
[06:48] <odix> i got roger waters tickets ;p
[06:48] <Thinkpad_Guru> Anabelle, have a good nite
[06:48] <n30n> "Failed to create DirectInput device for Push-to-talk" when i try to use Ventrilo
[06:48] <Anabelle> i went to roger water's concert last friday :D
[06:49] <odix> how was it ?
[06:49] <cables> !offtopic
[06:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:49] <shatrat> n30n, there is a how to thread in the ubuntuforums.org gaming section for ventrilo somewhere, I just gave up on it though, ventrilo is crap in wine as well as windows
[06:50] <odix> whats a good partition tool ?
[06:50] <shatrat> odix, gparted is ok.
[06:50] <n30n> shatrat: Thanks/
[06:51] <odix> just tried it and it wont detect devices ;\
[06:51] <odix> Error opening /dev/hda: Permission denied
[06:51] <oiahsdf> would xmodule=vesa be the option to pass via grub?
[06:51] <rootnode> and back agin
[06:51] <rootnode> again*
[06:51] <adjioev> I use  gedit or eclipse and sometimes if I want select some text i use shift- arrow up/down. Usually it works but sometimes instead of selecting it prints "2" or "8". how do i switch this mode off?
[06:52] <rootnode> i just tried to upgrade from dapper to feisty alpha 5
[06:52] <rootnode> but now i run into more than 1 dependency problem
[06:52] <Madpilot> rootnode, did you upgrade to Edgy first, from Dapper?
[06:52] <Flannel> rootnode: Upgrading from dapper to feisty isn't supported.  You should have gone through edgy first.
[06:52] <rootnode> Madpilot: no
[06:52] <odix> whats the difference between dapper & edgy ?
[06:52] <Flannel> odix: They're just different versions.  In that case, about four months ;)
[06:53] <Madpilot> rootnode, not good. Upgrades have to be done in order
[06:53] <odix> how do i find out mine ?
[06:53] <rootnode> i asked for that here a few hours ago and i was suggested to directly upgrade to feisty
[06:53] <rootnode> nah, never mind...
[06:53] <n30n>
[06:53] <Madpilot> odix, System->About Ubuntu
[06:54] <odix> damn i cant unmount my windows filesystem to resize it ;\
[06:54] <toydolls> holaaa
[06:54] <odix> edgy...is this the newest ?
[06:54] <Flannel> odix: most recent stable, yes.
[06:55] <odix> flannel do you know how to umount the ntfs filesystem ?
[06:55] <zack> hey, i have apache working with php and mysql quite fine at the moment, but I want to know if installing lighttpd will screw it up?
[06:55] <Flannel> odix: just like normal.  umount
[06:55] <apallo> is there an IRC client i can use in gnome that isn't xchat or gaim?
[06:55] <odix> gives me fstab errors
[06:55] <zack> i'm installing Ruby on Rails and the guide I'm using is saying to use lighttpd
[06:55] <odix> gIRC?
[06:56] <mistone> zack: word
[06:56] <kalorin> so does anyone run a machine with 2 disks in it?
[06:56] <kalorin> if so how are you using the 2nd disk, as a mirror, or spanning?
[06:56] <bohsain> whats the module/driver for this sound card: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[06:56] <mistone> kalorin:  HD's?
[06:56] <tag_> well
[06:56] <kalorin> or just a lazy mirrors where you sync them every day or so
[06:56] <mistone> I run a machine with two harddirves
[06:56] <zack> apallo: chatzilla is a pretty good IRC addon for firefox
[06:56] <zack> mistone:?
[06:56] <tag_> Ruby on Rails and lighttpd are like amazingly popular for not much reason, but I can say that it's much better than the previous trend of PHP and Apache
[06:56] <apallo> i want a standalone client, but gui
[06:57] <kalorin> what I'd really like to do is have these two disks sync every day or so at some point so that I have a fairly recent backup but also have the ability to get stuff back if I nuke it
[06:57] <kalorin> sort of a lazy mirror
[06:57] <kalorin> trying to figure out how to do it in such a way as that the other disk is actually bootable as well if there's a harddisk failure on the primary
[06:57] <zack> @tag: so does it matter if i have apache and lighttpd running at once? i kinda want to be able to work with both at once, if rails uses lighttpd exclusively
[06:57] <kalorin> they're the same manufacturer and model
[06:57] <kalorin> I guess I could just do a DD on them
[06:57] <lisapc> i have an inbuilt webcam.  can I get it to work in Edgy?
[06:57] <kalorin> but they're 400gb
[06:57] <Flannel> zack: as long as they're listening on different ports, you should be able to run them both, sure.
[06:58] <kalorin> perhaps a dd to start and then rsync's after that?
[06:58] <zack> Flannel: awesome, ta
[06:58] <odix> uh-oh..
[06:58] <odix> i unmounted my partition and made it smaller
[06:58] <odix> now i cant unmount my linux partition, so how do i add more space to that ?
[06:59] <carlfk3> toshiba laptop, built in wifi, lspcmica says orinoco_cs - edgy and feisty both show it in iwconfig, but it wont 'link' to the open AP - someone got a clue fo rme?
[06:59] <Flannel> odix: er, did you "umount" by itself?
[06:59] <odix> sudo umount /dev/hda1
[07:00] <kalorin> odix, if you're running it live, you might have some problems with that
[07:00] <kalorin> ack 2am
[07:00] <kalorin> time for bed was like 2 hours ago :(
[07:00] <kalorin> blah
[07:00] <ubuntu> !iso
[07:00] <odix> no its an install
[07:00] <kalorin> night all
[07:00] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:00] <ubuntu> !iso
[07:01] <ubuntu> error
[07:01] <ubuntu> !iso
[07:01] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:02] <odix> now what ?
[07:02] <odix> boot to windows and resize the ext3 ?
[07:04] <VeganChick> hi guys. i just deleted my entire top panel and i can't find some of the menu options...
[07:04] <r4nge> major stupidness, i accidently removed +x from the "others" group for sudo and now i cant sudo chmod it back
[07:04] <r4nge> any chance of me chmoding it back to +x
[07:05] <Cryoniq> Is it like they say, all bad things happen in the morning :)
[07:05] <Madpilot> VeganChick, right-click on your surviving panel, select New Panel, then all the panel widgets are available thru Add to Panel
[07:05] <VeganChick> Madpilot, I found all of those, but I'm missing the 'applications' 'places' and 'system' menus
[07:06] <Cryoniq> If I would like to partition some space on a harddrive, and then mount it to a dir under root, how do I manage it to mount at boot?
[07:06] <Madpilot> VeganChick, I think it's the Menu Bar widget
[07:06] <Madpilot> all three menus are one widget
[07:06] <gsxr600> hello everybody
[07:06] <Cryoniq> I know there is a file somewhere I can edit to add mount commands etc that run at boot, but it was a long time since I even looked that way
[07:07] <VeganChick> Madpilot, thanks! I thought that widget was just the icon and i was looking for all 3 menus... *facepalm*
[07:07] <Cryoniq> and it is probably not even the correct way to do it anyway...
[07:07] <mneptok> Cryoniq: /etc/fstab
[07:07] <Cryoniq> thanks mneptok :)
[07:08] <lisapc> when I try to run Easycam2, it says: No camera, or no compatible camera found.  What can I do?  The webcam is built into my laptop
[07:08] <mneptok> Cryoniq: you'll need UUIDs on EDgy and later. df will give you those
[07:08] <Cryoniq> =)
[07:09] <omegabeta> Question: I have screwed up my theme, gnome-panbel and other such stuff no longer works, How can i set the theme back to default without using X?
[07:10] <hang3r> does anyone know why the update notifier wont create an icon in the notification tray? Automatic updates are enabled but it never shows up
[07:10] <r4nge> !su
[07:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:11] <ubunt1> hwye
[07:11] <ubunt1> hey
[07:11] <ubunt1> i have problem
[07:11] <ubunt1> how can i see how hdd space is occupied
[07:11] <mistone> hang3r: no updates? lol
[07:11] <VeganChick> Where can I find a keyboard map (or something) that tells me what the numbers of the keys are? I'm trying to code a 'right-click' function since I'm on an iBook (one mouse button)
[07:11] <ubunt1> i install Test drive unlimited in spanish and i can't find it where it is saved
[07:12] <hang3r> mistone, There are updates, i just have to do it manually
[07:12] <ubunt1> and now i install test drive unlimited in English and i find it
[07:12] <ubunt1> and if UBuntu say that there have 6 gb in this direcotry then there is the TEst Drive In SPanish
[07:12] <bulmer> VeganChick: man loadkeys
[07:13] <genii> VeganChick: Take a look at http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/xcode.xfree86?rev=3.3
[07:15] <gabz> how do we work out what drivers are installed ? is it lcpi ?
[07:15] <seravitae> anyone here play UT2K4 on ubuntu? seem to be having some difficulties. (it was running fine last time i installed it)
[07:15] <genii> gabz lsmod
[07:15] <gabz> genii, thanks
[07:15] <VeganChick> thanks guys!
[07:15] <genii> gabz np
[07:15] <oz__> yes seravitae
[07:15] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. this makes me confused. I have 2 NTFS drives with their respective own partitions. I used captive to access them. They are mounted in fstab as hdc1 and hdd1 under /dev then there been created directories under /mnt for each of their patition. But in order to access those, I need to mount them everytime after reboot. Is that correct? Or should I add something to bootup that mounts them to the dirs under /mnt. /dev/hddc1 and /
[07:16] <seravitae> oz__:  have you had any wierd things occur?
[07:16] <oz__> no, all work fine for me, did you install it with locki installer?
[07:16] <hang3r> Ok, So if know one can help me with that, does anyone know where the update-notifier stores its config?
[07:16] <seravitae> oz__: the locki installer? whats that?
[07:17] <seravitae> I just use the normal install script. it worked fine last time, but this time my mouse cursor goes nuts
[07:17] <seravitae> and inside the the game, the sensetivity is so high that like, 1 pixel movement makes my whole character rotate
[07:17] <rryan> can someone help me with installing ubuntu on a tablet ? it has a PCMCIA cdrom drive that it can boot from, but any distro of linux that uses ISOLINUX can't get past initramfs, it drops me to a busybox shell that says (initramfs)
[07:17] <oz__> the file what can install ut2k4, search it on the web an retry install
[07:17] <seravitae> well, ill look it up but the install script on the dvd works fine?
[07:17] <rryan> I was able to install Fedora Core 3 a few years ago just fine with their boot cd
[07:18] <Cryoniq> (I seriously need to get me a PDF of basic linux administration ^^ Forgot so much past years)
[07:18] <oz__> nop, juste an .bin file who ask you to put dvd in your drive
[07:18] <oz__> (sorry for my english =) )
[07:18] <hirogen> Im not getting any sound at all out.  Can anyone give me a few ideas to check?
[07:18] <ircusr> hi all
[07:19] <Cryoniq> (joke, are the speakers plugged in?)
[07:19] <hirogen> lol
[07:19] <Cryoniq> =P
[07:19] <seravitae> oz__: yeah, but how does that script differ to the one on the cd
[07:19] <hirogen> I assure you everythings functioning properly, where are some places to check to enable the sound
[07:19] <oz__> maybe an update ??
[07:19] <oz__> xhat s your error message
[07:19] <Cryoniq> Hmm..
[07:19] <vader> Hello Everyone, I have bought a new laptop.... HP dv9000 series.... Tried several different Ubuntu distro's and allways after the initial updates, I cannot get it to completely boot. x hangs so bad I cannot even get into text mode. The laptop has the nvidia chipset
[07:19] <hirogen> no error
[07:19] <Cryoniq> !sound
[07:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:19] <hirogen> just no sound
[07:19] <seravitae> im downloading the official linux update now - but i certainly didnt need this before.
[07:20] <seravitae> oz__: i dont get an error message. my mouse goes crazy.
[07:20] <jax> does anyone know where do i find the plugin for monkey's audio (ape)...thanks
[07:20] <hirogen> I set it to alsa, didnt work Ill check out the other links
[07:20] <oz__> ha....i dont know...
[07:21] <genii> Cryoniq in your /etc/fstab you need entries something like: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1     ro,user,auto 0 0 and /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1     ro,user,auto 0 0
[07:21] <Cryoniq> I had some problems also get my sounds to work, but more related to certain apps and codecs I suspect (still) :P
[07:21] <steelb> where is my grub config
[07:21] <seravitae> It has to do with the SD layer i believe
[07:21] <bulmer> look in /boot/gub
[07:21] <bulmer> look in /boot/grb
[07:22] <seravitae> if i press ctrl+g the game works fine, but my mouse cursor drops out of the game.
[07:22] <bulmer> look in /boot/grub  man i cant type
[07:22] <seravitae> if i lock the cursor inside the window, it goes crazy.
[07:22] <Cryoniq> Ah :) Thanks genii *bow*
[07:22] <genii> Cryoniq np
[07:22] <oz__> lol, very strange problem
[07:23] <steelb> thanks bulmenr
[07:23] <rryan> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize my PCMCIA cdrom ? The live cd drops me to (initramfs) busybox shell.
[07:23] <steelb> lerls
[07:23] <rryan> my guess is it can't mount the cdrom so it can't get the data it needs
[07:23] <wiseKid> how do i go about getting a GUI for Ubuntu server
[07:24] <Cryoniq> genii, he he.. next problem.. my fstab look like that with the /mnt/capitive-200gb for hdd1 etc.. hmm...... to be more exact it is --> /dev/hdd1 /mnt/captive-200gb captive-ntfs defaults,noauto 0 0
[07:25] <Cryoniq> Strange that I need to do sudo mount /mnt/captive-200gb each time after reboot in order to get anything from it.. *shrug*
[07:25] <genii> Cryoniq Ah. No idea then, i don't know about captive-ntfs much
[07:25] <Helmi> i have two sound devices attached. a soundblaster audigy2 and a sennheiser usb headset. both basically work but i have repeatedly trouble with the headset. skype reports "problem with sound device" nearly everytime...
[07:25] <Helmi> ideas anyone?
[07:26] <ubunt1> !free
[07:26] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[07:26] <ubunt1> !space
[07:26] <Flannel> wiseKid: what sort of GUI do yo uwant?
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <wiseKid> a desktop
[07:26] <Flannel> wiseKid: Ubuntu? Kubuntu? Xubuntu?  fluxbox?
[07:26] <wiseKid> Ubuntu
[07:26] <Flannel> wiseKid: install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[07:26] <Cryoniq> genii, I wish I didn't either and instead had a linux partition of it instead, but unfortunate I migrated finaly from windows totaly and it is loaded to 98% with stuff ^^
[07:26] <wiseKid> With sudo apt-get??
[07:27] <Flannel> wiseKid: yep.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <wiseKid> That just tells me to put in the server cd and nothing happens
[07:27] <ubunt1> !i want to see where the much space or which directory have much space
[07:27] <Flannel> wiseKid: do you have internet on this machine?
[07:27] <wiseKid> Yes
[07:27] <Cryoniq> (oh except that I have a VMware workstation for Linux installed with XP around.. it is okay to call me a cheater now :P)
[07:27] <lisapc> is there any way to get a USB TV TUner to work in Edgy?
[07:27] <wiseKid> I set up Ath0 the same as when I use Ubuntu
[07:27] <Flannel> ubunt1: 'df' or 'du', at the terminal, there's a "disk usage" GUI utility in edgy, I believe.
[07:27] <omegabeta> Question: I have screwed up my theme, gnome-panel and other such stuff no longer works, How can i set the theme back to default without using X?
[07:28] <Flannel> wiseKid: alright, edit your sources.list, comment out (with #) the CD line.
[07:28] <genii> Cryoniq Maybe add the option auto instead of it being noauto. noauto means you need to manually mount it
[07:28] <omegacenti> Just wondering, but has the modification to intel i810 drivers where 915resolution is no longer needed happened yet?
[07:28] <omegacenti> I couldn't find any information on it.
[07:28] <Cryoniq> genii, that makes sense. I'll try that :P
[07:28] <wiseKid> I'm on a live CD right now
[07:28] <wiseKid> I get something like freeBSD before setting up xorg
[07:28] <Flannel> wiseKid: what?  freebsd?
[07:29] <gabz> wiseKid, you need to install ubuntu to install the desktop
[07:29] <wiseKid> the command line
[07:29] <Flannel> wiseKid: command line is linux, just as much as it is BSD.
[07:29] <wiseKid> I dont know how to use command line that well =(
[07:29] <Cryoniq> I so totaly love the goodwill to help in Linux world *hugs the comunity*
[07:30] <Flannel> wiseKid: alrright, so, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then add the # to the beginning of the cd line (it'll be near the top), then ctrl-O to save, ctrl-X to quit that, then "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:30] <lnxtech> Has anyone ever seen a folder disappear on ubuntu when you renamed a folder on an hfsplus (journaling turned off) filesystem?
[07:30] <boojit> hey all, so um anyone else here who has just put on the last slew of updates for Feisty Herd 5, on a Thinkpad T40 series?
[07:30] <ubunt1> !umount
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Joshooa> Can someone help me set up Evolution with my GMail account? Will that work?
[07:30] <Flannel> boojit: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty
[07:30] <boojit> I just did and lost my wireless
[07:30] <wiseKid> Flannel: thanks gonna try that now
[07:30] <boojit> Flannel: thanks much
[07:31] <Cryoniq> boojit, you running Feisty Fawn?
[07:31] <Flannel> wiseKid: once you get that installed, come back, and ask how to install the desktop kernel, instead of the server one
[07:31] <LadyNikon> whats 6.06 breezy?
[07:31] <boojit> Cryoniq: yes
[07:31] <Cryoniq> boojit, nice! How is it compared to Edgy?
[07:31] <Flannel> LadyNikon: 6.06 is Dapper, 5.10 is breezy.  There is no "6.06 breezy",  They're different releases.  The former is one of the current ones, the latter has one month left before it goes out of support
[07:32] <LadyNikon> so 6.06 is dapper ok
[07:32] <LadyNikon> is there  a list of the different releases
[07:32] <LadyNikon> thanks Flannel :)
[07:32] <Cryoniq> I am really looking forward to Feisty, but I am too chicken to actually take the step over to it untill it is released as sharp :)
[07:32] <LadyNikon> Cryoniq: heh.. but thats not fun!
[07:32] <Cryoniq> lol
[07:33] <wiseKid> Flannel: I was trying to get lamp installed and configured the easy way, or is it not that difficult for Ubuntu edgy
[07:33] <ubunt1> du
[07:33] <ubunt1> don't worek
[07:33] <ubunt1> work
[07:33] <ubunt1> i still don't have space
[07:33] <Flannel> LadyNikon: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[07:33] <yell0w> cowards
[07:33] <tapoxi> Is it worth it to install network-manager in Edgy, or is it too unstable?
[07:33] <Flannel> wiseKid: eh?  Installing LAMP on a desktop box is still painless.
[07:33] <wiseKid> lol k
[07:33] <wiseKid> brb
[07:33] <Flannel> wiseKid: but, you still want the desktop kernel, not the server kernel, if you're using it as a desktop
[07:34] <LadyNikon> ah the new one is edgy
[07:34] <beta-guy> I need help with enabling sound on my computer it looks like it found the sound card but I'm hearing no sound
[07:34] <LadyNikon> i must have used an old disk or something
[07:34] <Flannel> !sound  | beta-guy
[07:34] <ubotu> beta-guy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:34] <wiseKid> ok I'll get that installed
[07:34] <Cryoniq> why is it called coward btw? Someting to do with cow? But cows aren't that chicken :P
[07:34] <n30n> How do i configure wine sound settings
[07:34] <Flannel> ubotu: you need more space?  sorry, those commands tell you how much space you have
[07:34] <Cryoniq> (nm that question is for a totaly different irc channel :P )
[07:34] <Flannel> ubunt1: sorry, that was for you
[07:34] <yell0w> Cryoniq, just talking  'bout those who don't live onthe edge
[07:35] <Cryoniq> =)
[07:35] <yell0w> :P
[07:35] <n30n> !wine
[07:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:35] <n30n> !wow
[07:35] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:35] <ncaller> I'm trying to get vmware-server working in Edgy, I have the server installed and kernel modules loaded, I am running the 64bit version of Edgy, I am having a problem with vmware-authd.  It just says . Reason: Operation not permitted, when I try to connect to it.  Any ideas?
[07:36] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. I could make a VMWare virtual partition and actually install feisty and look for myself I just realised *bonk myself*
[07:37] <ubunt1> Flannel: and do you know the command that see who file use much space
[07:37] <LadyNikon> whats a good vm ware client?
[07:37] <LadyNikon> well opensource version
[07:37] <ncaller> ...vmware-server-console
[07:37] <LadyNikon> ncaller: will that run windows though
[07:37] <LadyNikon> i heard it didnt
[07:37] <yell0w> !vmware
[07:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:37] <ircusr> what i dont like about vmware is that it doesnt have 3d accel
[07:38] <Matthai> want to run windows under ubuntu?
[07:38] <LadyNikon> yell0w: that would be great and all.. if i wasnt looking for an opensource version :)
[07:38] <LadyNikon> thanks for the help though
[07:38] <ncaller> Lady then look at Xen
[07:38] <yell0w> !xen
[07:38] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[07:38] <ncaller> www.Xensource.com
[07:38] <LadyNikon> thanks ncaller
[07:38] <LadyNikon> thanks yellow
[07:38] <mura> hello. i just wondering, does standard edgy eft (on ubuntu liveCD) support dual core processors?
[07:39] <Checkka> DOes ubuntu have a utility to compile svn's?
[07:39] <ncaller> svn's?
[07:39] <ircusr> does Xen have 3d accel?
[07:39] <Checkka> to basically install something like this: svn://svn.videolan.org/vlc/trunk
[07:39] <Matthai> LadyNikon, don't try with xen, it is pain in the ***, especially networking .-)
[07:39] <ncaller> you use svn to download it
[07:39] <yell0w> LadyNikon, triggers save time and keystrokes and long facts
[07:39] <Checkka> is svn a command?
[07:39] <ncaller> then use gcc or whatever to build it
[07:40] <ncaller> yes
[07:40] <shatrat> Checkka, well, theres "svn" to check out the source code, and then you should be able to use ./configure, make, sudo make install
[07:40] <ubunt1> recycle bin in kde wher is
[07:40] <Checkka> ok
[07:40] <Checkka> but svn doesnt seem to be a command in ubuntu
[07:40] <shatrat> Checkka, although you know there is VLC in the repositories?
[07:40] <Matthai> LadyNikon, YESTERDAY i SET UP WINDOWS UNDER VMWARE OLAYER UNDER uBUNTU AND IT IS WORKING GREAT
[07:40] <ncaller> LadyNikon Xen is going to be great, I'm going to wait on it another 6 months though at least
[07:40] <ajkochanowicz> anyone know how to use Azureus?
[07:40] <shatrat> CharlieSu, sudo apt-get install svn ;D
[07:40] <Matthai> sorry, caps lock
[07:40] <yell0w> Checkka, sudo aptitude install svn
[07:40] <Checkka> yeah i need to use a very new version of vlc
[07:40] <LadyNikon> yell0w: yea but it doesnt give opinions and take out the human part of the convo.. which is what i wanted :)
[07:41] <shatrat> ajkochanowicz, I do
[07:41] <Flannel> Checkka, yell0w, shatrat, subversion, not svn
[07:41] <LadyNikon> Matthai: its for school
[07:41] <ajkochanowicz> whenever I download a .torrent file, it tells me it's not a file
[07:41] <LadyNikon> I need to run win 98 and win 2k for class
[07:41] <shatrat> ajkochanowicz, "it"?
[07:41] <yell0w> Flannel, ahh, i got it mixed up with cvs, thanks for the reminder
[07:41] <ircusr> what class?
[07:42] <ajkochanowicz> he hurt me...
[07:42] <Checkka> thanks Flannel
[07:42] <yell0w> LadyNikon, thus they are called factoids :)
[07:46] <yell0w> night all!
[07:47] <da-z> hello. did anyone manage to make a tapioca - gtalk call on ubuntu ? using the ubuntu edgy build from the tapioca webpage
[07:48] <b34numz> any young females?
[07:49] <b34numz> are there?
[07:49] <ncaller> you haven't hung around the linux scene before have you?
[07:49] <Olivia> sup wiggars
[07:49] <Olivia> whats the craic in here then
[07:49] <Olivia>  hwta the hell is this?
[07:50] <Olivia> how come when i rite sum fin every thign stops
[07:50] <b34numz> aree there any young girls if so press 666
[07:50] <Olivia>  perver
[07:50] <Olivia> t
[07:50] <Olivia> so whats the beef?
[07:50] <Olivia> where is every one from
[07:51] <Checkka> after I've checked out the svn, where do i config/make it?
[07:51] <spike723> where can I get the "tip" command in ubuntu?
[07:51] <Olivia>  hellllllo
[07:51] <ncaller> Checkka what directory did you download the source into??
[07:52] <Madpilot> spike723, 'tip'?
[07:52] <Checkka> svn checkout svn://svn.videolan.org/vlc/trunk vlc-trunk
[07:52] <Checkka> i simply ran that command
[07:52] <Olivia>  checka
[07:52] <spike723> Madpilot: it's like "cu" or "minicom"
[07:52] <Checkka> ?
[07:52] <Hobbsee> !offtopic > Olivia
[07:52] <Checkka> hmm i see it in my ~ folder
[07:53] <Olivia>  helo
[07:53] <da-z> Checkka: if your svn co http://...program program && cd program && ./configure && make
[07:53] <Olivia> checckaa what is this chat room 4
[07:53] <Madpilot> Olivia, this channel is for tech support for Ubuntu. If you want to just chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[07:54] <da-z> Checkka: also install checkinstall and fakeroot. then, instead of make install issue: sudo checkinstall -D make install
[07:54] <da-z> so you-ll get a package before installing, in order to easy reinstall/remove
[07:55] <Checkka> da-z, but i dont really wish to install it, i just want to run it from the same folder
[07:56] <Checkka> da-z, there doesnt seem to be a ./configure file in the folder
[07:56] <da-z> Checkka: some programs need installing, if they have hardcoded paths ..
[07:56] <clouder`grr> Is there a way to get a list of suggested packages to be removed by apt?  I noticed it comes up some times when I install or uninstall how do I just get it just to see
[07:56] <Checkka> ok
[07:56] <Luke> i'm trying to replace lilo with grub but when I run grub-install, I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:56] <Checkka> da-z, there's a configure.ac file
[07:56] <da-z> Checkka: maybe it is already built (binary)
[07:56] <da-z> or maybe it's a python app ..
[07:56] <Flannel> clouder`grr: if you add -s to the command, it'll simulate, and just show you what.  Or, you can view the packges (apt-cache show [package] ), or go to packages.ubuntu.com and browse online
[07:56] <da-z> you'll learn to make the difference in time
[07:57] <Flannel> !grub | Luke
[07:57] <ubotu> Luke: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:57] <Flannel> Luke: first link gives step by step on installing GRUB
[07:57] <Luke> Flannel: thanks
[07:57] <Checkka> im not sure how to configure it
[07:57] <Checkka> there's no ./configure
[07:57] <Olivia> ,ad pilot where do u get that chat at:D
[07:58] <Olivia>  this is a boring chat room have u ppl nothing better to do with ur lives
[07:58] <Olivia>  lol
[07:58] <Checkka> there's a configure.ac file...
[07:58] <shatrat> Checkka, if there is no "configure" is there an "autogen.sh" maybe? or a file named "INSTALL" or "README" that you could look in for instructions?
[07:58] <clouder`grr> Flannel: thanks :D
[07:58] <Olivia> where d u go to my lovley
[07:58] <da-z> Checkka: its an autoconf file
[07:59] <gabz> !mount
[07:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:59] <Checkka> lol, there's not autogen.sh but there is a INSTALL that
[07:59] <Olivia> b
[07:59] <Checkka> tells me to run ./configure
[07:59] <da-z> Checkka: just issue the command autoconf first
[08:00] <da-z> and will create a configure based on the configure.ac template
[08:00] <Luke> Flannel: same error... the guide says exactly to do what I'm already doing
[08:00] <Checkka> ./autoconf?
[08:00] <da-z> apt-get install autoconf
[08:00] <da-z> and then autoconf in the directory of the program
[08:01] <Checkka> neat
[08:01] <Checkka> what does it do?
[08:01] <mneptok> configures things. automatically.
[08:01] <da-z> quote from the autoconf manual " To create configure from configure.ac, run the autoconf program with no arguments.  autoconf processes configure.ac with the M4 macro processor, using the Autoconf macros."
[08:01] <Checkka> i get alot of configure.ac:5562: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_JAVA
[08:02] <mneptok> Checkka: what are you trying to build?
[08:02] <Checkka> vlc-trunk
[08:02] <mneptok> why not VLC from the repos?
[08:02] <Checkka> i need to use a very new version
[08:02] <Checkka> for shoutcast tv support
[08:02] <mistone> I have a microSD card ( and reader ) and I am trying to remove the .Trash-mistone folder but it says its read only
[08:02] <mneptok> VLC is going to have a TON of source lib dependencies.
[08:02] <mistone> how do I delete it
[08:02] <da-z> Checkka: does a README or INSTALL exist in there ? maybe you should read it first...
[08:03] <Checkka> the INSTALL tells me to run ./configure
[08:03] <Luke> i'm trying to replace lilo with grub but when I run grub-install, I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:03] <Checkka> i think they use the same INSTALL for all their sources
[08:03] <Checkka> the README is just credits
[08:04] <shatrat> mistone, cd to /media/whateverthename of the card is and sudo rm -r -Trash-mistone perhaps
[08:04] <da-z> sounds like the svn version isnt a release version for which the INSTALL is made
[08:04] <mistone> shatrat I tried it said read only file system
[08:04] <mistone> I tried making myself the owner of the file
[08:04] <mistone> I tried chmod 777
[08:04] <shatrat> mistone, or gksudo nautilus and do it graphically.  Oh, hmm, well in that case im not sure
[08:04] <shatrat> mistone, does it have a little write protect switch on it?
[08:04] <da-z> Checkka: compiling things can be complicated. you must know what you're doing there
[08:04] <mneptok> mistone: what format is the card?
[08:04] <mistone> microSD
[08:05] <mneptok> filesystem
[08:05] <Checkka> ah :(
[08:05] <mistone> FAT32
[08:05] <mistone> er
[08:05] <mistone> FAT16
[08:05] <mneptok> chown -R the mount point
[08:05] <mistone> same error( for every file )
[08:05] <pajama> exir
[08:06] <pajama> exit
[08:06] <Checkka> hmm
[08:06] <Checkka> make just creates binaries correct?
[08:06] <cpk1> isnt there an aptitude cowsay thing? besides the cowsay? like where you can make dragons and stuff
[08:06] <Checkka> make install moves the binaries to the correct places?
[08:06] <mistone> I think I am going to format the card
[08:06] <VeganChick> I can't seem to edit sysctl.conf in order to emulate a right-click on my one button mouse...and i can't log in as root, but i *can* log in as root in terminal...
[08:07] <shatrat> Checkka, make compiles, make install installs, youre correct
[08:07] <mneptok> mistone: sudo chown -R $username:$username /path/to/mount/point
[08:07] <shatrat> !sudo | VeganChick
[08:07] <ubotu> VeganChick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:07] <Checkka> ok thanks
[08:07] <mistone> mneptok: I can't own the file
[08:07] <VeganChick> i tried to edit the file through terminal and then it wouldn't let me get out of the file (the ^ commands didn't work)
[08:07] <mistone> Its because of how mounted shit works
[08:07] <mneptok> mistone: why
[08:07] <mistone> its like if you try to chown a mounted file
[08:07] <mistone> you can't
[08:07] <mneptok> did you put the card in fstab?
[08:08] <mistone> well you could
[08:08] <shatrat> VeganChick, those are ctrl, like ctrl O to save and ctrl x to exit
[08:08] <mneptok> if you put the card in fstab, take it out
[08:08] <VeganChick> ohhh, thanks shatrat!
[08:08] <mneptok> the autmount will handle perms
[08:08] <Checkka> lol, conclusion
[08:09] <Checkka> I guess ill be using vmware and 8gb of my HD until a new VLC comes out in repo form :\
[08:09] <mneptok> Checkka: URL for a stream you want to watch?
[08:10] <Checkka> hold on
[08:10] <Checkka> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8010;stream.nsv
[08:11] <cpk1> no one knows anything about a super duper apt-get moo? =(
[08:12] <chuck`_> anyone running a LAMP setup?
[08:12] <mneptok> Checkka: i can hear but not see it in the repo version of mPlayer
[08:12] <Checkka> yeah
[08:13] <Checkka> the current vlc doesnt support it
[08:13] <Checkka> the video
[08:13] <genii> chuck`_: Yes, on 6.06
[08:13] <chuck`_> did you have any trouble with mod_perl or mysql after installing the packages w/ synaptic?
[08:13] <Checkka> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:10000;stream.nsv
[08:13] <Checkka> try that one
[08:14] <Checkka> that should make more *nix users more into shoutcast :)
[08:14] <chuck`_> PHP is working fine, but mod_perl and mysqld are bitching about permissions
[08:14] <genii> chuck`_: I did a minimalistic install with no gui and used apt-get to install other stuff.
[08:14] <zipper> Back when 6.06 were out, i tried putting it on my laptop. After much trouble i got everything but acpi working. Wouldnt boot unless i turned acpi=off. I didnt try out APM however, what are the advantages and disadvantages of apm vs acpi?
[08:14] <chuck`_> Well, same deal
[08:14] <FlipCoder> hey, is it possible to get higher resolutions than just 1024x768 on ubuntu 6.10 live?
[08:14] <mistone> how do I format something to FAT16 64k cluster
[08:15] <zipper> FlipCoder: yes
[08:15] <genii> chuck`_: But anyhow, no iisues installing the perl module
[08:15] <zipper> FlipCoder: you're having trouble changing it to something?
[08:15] <FlipCoder> i have an ati radeon x300, and im not sure if i can do the driver installation on the live cd
[08:16] <FlipCoder> well, it only has 2 options, 800x600 and 1024x768
[08:16] <spike723> are there docs on getting compiz set up?
[08:16] <zipper> FlipCoder: what does your monitor support?
[08:16] <FlipCoder> its a widescreen 21" so pretty high, let me check
[08:16] <zipper> spike723: loads on the ubuntu forums
[08:16] <chuck`_> genii: I've installed everything fine but whenever I try to execute a perl script through CGI it returns a 403 error
[08:16] <genii> chuck`_: I used libapache2-mod-perl2 however
[08:16] <koprnikus> what is screen buffer ?
[08:16] <FlipCoder> 1680x1050
[08:16] <espen> when i boot the ubuntu 6.10 cd, it takes some time to load, but after that i get a command screen where no commands work.. anyone know anything about that?
[08:16] <chuck`_> genii: I believe I used the same
[08:17] <Luke> i'm trying to replace lilo with grub but when I run grub-install, I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:17] <FlipCoder> 1680x1050 is the max i get in windows
[08:17] <chuck`_> genii: I chmod'd the script and put in the AddHandler line in the apache conf but no dice
[08:17] <genii> chuck Ah, that looks like an execution problem. Make sure wherever you have the scripts that the webserver user has rights to it and that executable is set
[08:17] <chuck`_> genii: and the Options line for the documentroot
[08:18] <zipper> FlipCoder: look inside your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf - it contains all resolutions and other stuff. Just add the resolutions you want. You can change resolution inside X with ctrl+alt+ +/-
[08:18] <chuck`_> genii: should just need Options +ExecCGI on the DocumentRoot for that, right?
[08:18] <FlipCoder> oh cool i didnt know that, thanks
[08:18] <FlipCoder> ill give it a try
[08:18] <genii> chuck`_: Yup, thats all it should need.
[08:18] <CaptainMorgan> new install of 6.10, what happened to my graphics? I am experiencing 'shadowing' when I attempt to move any window. I examined xorg.conf and it noted ATI under "Device" and later on down. Isn't that correct? That's what I have installed... I didn't experience shadowing in 6.06
[08:18] <chuck`_> genii: Tried it ;o
[08:18] <chuck`_> genii: Doesn't work for whatever reason
[08:19] <chuck`_> so something else is fubar
[08:19] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, ati happens
[08:19] <zipper> FlipCoder: np.. beware though, lots of people get problems when they mess with xorg.conf, but dont be scared. Its the fastest way to do it... if it works :)
[08:19] <FlipCoder> ah
[08:19] <genii> chuck`_: Did you chown them to the apache user ( I think is wwwroot or so)
[08:19] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, are you saying this is permanent ?
[08:19] <Checkka> lol
[08:19] <FlipCoder> so what about hardware acceleration, do i need fglrx?
[08:19] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, you might be using the vesa driver
[08:19] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, what video card you have?
[08:19] <zipper> FlipCoder: for 3d accel, yeah
[08:20] <FlipCoder> is that possible on just the live cd?
[08:20] <xemoka> (anyone know anything about getting broadcom wireless working on an acer system (that being knowing more then what the forums say about it...)
[08:20] <FlipCoder> because im just making sure everything works before getting a new hard drive for ubuntu
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, ATI X1300 VisionTek
[08:20] <Checkka> Amazing, im using 8gb of hd space, and 256mb of reserved RAM, but to watch any tv show i want its well worth it
[08:20] <chuck`_> genii: `invalid user`... is there a command to list availible users/groups?
[08:20] <zipper> FlipCoder: hmm, dont think it will work
[08:21] <zipper> FlipCoder: since the xorg.conf config file which needs to be changed, is on the live cd
[08:21] <FlipCoder> ah
[08:21] <FlipCoder> i just need to verify that my videocard works with ubuntu before doing the full install
[08:21] <genii> chuck`_: If you do sudo vipw    you can see all of them. to exit, use :q!
[08:21] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, open your xorg.conf
[08:21] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, it is
[08:21] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, check your device section
[08:21] <zipper> FlipCoder: probably... Not obscenely old, nor bleeding edge new.
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> I did.. what I am looking for?
[08:22] <genii> chuck`_: Also a ls -l of /var/www should say who owns that stuff
[08:22] <ShakaGoldSaint> driver    "<whatDoYouHaveHere>"
[08:23] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, ?
[08:23] <CaptainMorgan> what? oh... please tab my name, thanks..
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, 	Driver		"vesa"
[08:24] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, :D
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, what should it be ?
[08:24] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, fresh install right?
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, yes
[08:25] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, alrigthy, you need to install the #~#5!!@@ fglrx driver
[08:25] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, enable the restricted repo in synaptic
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint,  it is enables
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> enabled
[08:26] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, perfect
[08:26] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, just in case: sudo apt-get update
[08:26] <zipper> FlipCoder: if you're lucky, after the install, the system might even get some better info from your screens EEID and fix the resolutions itself. Not sure how much of a deal the live cd does of this.
[08:26] <chuck`_> genii: I chown'd the script to www-data as well as the directory but still no dice
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, already done
[08:26] <chuck`_> genii: That's the only user I saw that seemed related to the httpd
[08:27] <FlipCoder> yea, i figured it might do that, didnt want to assume though
[08:27] <genii> chuck`_: Hmm. Try putting as first line in one of the scripts:    #!/usr/bin/perl        <--- put in path of perl executable
[08:27] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, then: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:27] <ShakaGoldSaint> then: sudo aticonfig --initial
[08:27] <chuck`_> genii: Did it already
[08:27] <gabz> !nvidia
[08:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <genii> chuck`_: Yes, that was the right user :)
[08:28] <ShakaGoldSaint> then reboot, or if you feel geek then: sudo modprobe fglrx and then restart X, (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[08:28] <ShakaGoldSaint> oh wait
[08:28] <ShakaGoldSaint> before that last thing, you have to disable composite in xorg.conf
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, no worries.. Ill reboot.. thank you
[08:28] <ShakaGoldSaint> wait
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> disable composite?
[08:28] <tmorris> how do I chmod all directories to +x recursively?
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> yep
[08:29] <CaptainMorgan> how?
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:29] <chuck`_> genii: basically i've done everything I've done the past 500 times i setup apache on other boxes (and then some) but it still bitches about permissions
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> add these three lines:
[08:29] <cafuego_> find . -type d -exec chmod a+x {} \;
[08:29] <tmorris> ah thanks, I nearly had it :)
[08:29] <gabz> tmorris, add -R
[08:29] <cafuego_> gabz: no
[08:29] <moty> goijfiojo
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> Section "Extensions"
[08:29] <moty> hpkpkpokd
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> Option	    "Composite" "Disable"
[08:29] <ShakaGoldSaint> EndSection
[08:29] <genii> chuck`_: Well, if you want to pastebin your httpd.conf or apache2.conf I'll look at it. Also a ls -l result of the path containing the perl scripts may be useful to examine permissions etc
[08:29] <moty> aku lg mumet
[08:30] <ShakaGoldSaint> in the end of the file, then reboot, and that should be it
[08:30] <moty> haloo genii
[08:30] <JonasNZ> hey. wondering if i can get some help setting up an internet connection over bluetooth with my gprs phone
[08:30] <chuck`_> genii: Sure, give me a few secs
[08:30] <moty> pejuh kowe
[08:30] <tmorris> thanks cafuego
[08:30] <genii> moty Good morning (or evening depening on where you are)
[08:30] <moty> taiiiiiiiii
[08:30] <moty> asuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:30] <moty> bajingan
[08:31] <moty> lonte
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, will do, thank you
[08:31] <Luke> i'm trying to replace lilo with grub but when I run grub-install, I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, np
[08:31] <ShakaGoldSaint> let me know if it works
[08:31] <moty> fuck you
[08:32] <genii> Luke try using the root switch. man grub-install should give you more info
[08:32] <genii> Luke --root-direcory   or similar is what to look for
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:34] <VeganChick> argh....i can't log in as the root user
[08:35] <Checkka> HOw do i remove old linux kernels?
[08:35] <Joshooa> I just used GParted to partition my 200GB harddrive into smaller ones, and it only mounts the first partition, how do I mount the rest?
[08:35] <timfrost> !root | VeganChick
[08:35] <ubotu> VeganChick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:36] <VeganChick> I know what root is, i just can't log into it.
[08:36] <VeganChick> Does Ubuntu not do that like mac does?
[08:36] <genii> VeganChick: You are not supposed to be able to login as root user, so that is a good thing. Use the sudo command to do things with root privelege
[08:36] <VeganChick> oh
[08:36] <timfrost> VeganChick, use sudo instead
[08:36] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, so?
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, thanks! not is there no more shadowing, but there's also a nice difference between the previous
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> not *only
[08:36] <VeganChick> i don't like editing files in terminal...
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> it's 'sharper'
[08:37] <Joshooa> VeganChick: Have you tried with gksudo gedit?
[08:37] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, that was because you were using a nerdenthal driver
[08:37] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[08:37] <genii> VeganChick: You can use gksudo gedit      as well for graphical root-privelege editor
[08:37] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, the one that works with almost every single card
[08:38] <genii> VeganChick: That is for gnome, for KDE it is kdesu kate    (or editor name you prefer)
[08:38] <Luke> genii: yea i've used that with no luck =/
[08:38] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, i have to say this is the very first time that my explanation works at the first try :D
[08:38] <CaptainMorgan> ahaha, nice job ;)
[08:38] <genii> chuck`_: Did you give a url? I may have missed it if so
[08:38] <zipper> Back when 6.06 were out, i tried putting it on my laptop. After much trouble i got everything but acpi working. Wouldnt boot unless i turned acpi=off. I didnt try out APM however, what are the advantages and disadvantages of apm vs acpi - and how does one change between the two?
[08:38] <chuck`_> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10147/  on there is the path to perl, permissions on the entire directory listing of the document root, the Perl script code and then the httpd.conf (DocumentRoot + relevant info is defined at the bottom)
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> ShakaGoldSaint, curious tho.. where you come by this information?
[08:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, you can now try xgl+beryl/compiz :D
[08:39] <chuck`_> genii: There :]
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> ? waht's that?
[08:39] <genii> chuck`_:  :) OK studying
[08:39] <mneptok> CaptainMorgan: trust me, you don't want 'em
[08:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> xD
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> I mean, a google search wouldn't provide with that info.. unless I did it wrong..
[08:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> yep
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> technical docs ?
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> official tech docs?
[08:40] <ShakaGoldSaint> your linux installation is unstable enough with the fglrx driver, you won't want any more troubles
[08:40] <ShakaGoldSaint> :P
[08:40] <ShakaGoldSaint> i recommend you NOT to look for "beryl" on youtbe ;)
[08:41] <hollywoodb> zipper: acpi is useful for suspend, power management, things like that.... I don't believe apm is used much any more.... there are still some systems where acpi is problematic, though
[08:41] <genii> chuck`_: "test.cgi*" is the script you are testing??
[08:41] <chuck`_> genii: Yes
[08:42] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, if you already did... and you discovery you've now became a eye-candy freak, there's #ubuntu-effects
[08:42] <ShakaGoldSaint> discovered*
[08:42] <zipper> hollywoodb: i see.. Well, i cant use acpi at all, the system wont even boot with it. I can live without the fancy options, but i would like to have at least some power features. Was thinking that using apm was better than just turning acpi off
[08:42] <genii> chuck`_: Remove the *
[08:43] <Luke> genii: any other suggestions for the error i'm getting?
[08:43] <chuck`_> genii: What asterisk?
[08:43] <binary0> if i do a find . -mtime +365 , and pipe to -exec to delete the files, will it delete subdirectories as well inside directories or _only_ files ?
[08:43] <VeganChick> grr, apparently i'm not supposed to be able to right-click easily. nothing it working
[08:43] <hollywoodb> zipper: well, you may still be able to pull off cpu scaling to conserve power, but I know sleep states and such are indicated by acpi states: http://www.advogato.org/article/913.html
[08:43] <chuck`_> genii: that's just part of the terminal's output, it's not actually in the filename ;o
[08:44] <chuck`_> genii: chuck@chucktop:/var/www$ cp test.cgi* test.cgi | cp: `test.cgi' and `test.cgi' are the same file
[08:44] <genii> chuck`_: Add to your conf file for the /var/www declaration:
[08:44] <genii>     Order allow,deny
[08:44] <genii>     Allow from localhost
[08:44] <genii>     Deny from all
[08:44] <chuck`_> genii: Yeah I had that in there before too
[08:44] <hollywoodb> zipper: something like swsuspend might work for getting it to suspend/sleep without acpi enabled, I haven't used it myself
[08:45] <genii> Luke: Offhand nothing comes to mind :(
[08:45] <zipper> hollywoodb: I see, thanks. That url doesnt work btw, 404
[08:45] <zipper> nevermind
[08:45] <zipper> it does
[08:45] <Joshooa> When I format a harddrive, and partition it, how do I get all the partitions to show up?
[08:45] <mneptok> chuck`_: does the cgi have the execute bit?
[08:45] <chuck`_> mneptok: ?
[08:45] <chuck`_> mneptok: Engrish
[08:45] <Luke> genii: ok thanks
[08:45] <mneptok> chuck`_: chmod +x test.cgi
[08:45] <chuck`_> mneptok: Oh
[08:45] <hollywoodb> Joshooa: `fdisk -l` ?
[08:45] <chuck`_> mneptok: Yeah, i did chmod a+x on it
[08:46] <mneptok> k
[08:46] <hollywoodb> Joshooa: or `parted /dev/hda print all` if you have parted and you're looking at /dev/hda
[08:46] <chuck`_> genii: still a 403 error after re-adding that
[08:47] <genii> chuck`_: Have you been restarting with something like:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   ?
[08:47] <chuck`_> genii: no
[08:47] <chuck`_> genii: sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 -k restart -DSSL
[08:47] <VeganChick> I used gksudo gedit on the mouseemu file and inserted the code i wanted to change and then saved it. that should workk, right?
[08:48] <hollywoodb> VeganChick: should work
[08:48] <VeganChick> argh
[08:48] <Joshooa> hollywoodb I can see them in GParted but they don't show with fdisk -l
[08:48] <genii> chuck`_: Make sure if you do it that way, another instance is not running from the init.d then or it will just have cached conf
[08:49] <chuck`_> genii: Yeah I killed that one that was originally running
[08:49] <hollywoodb> Joshooa: have you applied the changes with gparted yet ?
[08:49] <kintaro0e> hi guys..whats better for my server: vmware or xen?
[08:50] <chuck`_> genii: only /usr/sbin/apache2 is in the ps list
[08:50] <Joshooa> hollywoodb Yeah, and if I use the terminal and unmount them one by one, and remount them, only the first one pops up on my desktop, the rest wont
[08:50] <genii> chuck`_: Are you getting some warning from apache2 startup that says basically "can't determine hostname resorting to <IP_ADDRESS>" or something similar?
[08:51] <chuck`_> genii: No warnings
[08:51] <chuck`_> genii: Works fine, tested it on my other comp as well by going to this box's LAN IP
[08:51] <genii> OK
[08:51] <Joshooa> hollywoodb If I go to Media I can see them though
[08:51] <kdeedk> Is there any site that explains to me what each directories does, such as etc, lib, www etc?
[08:52] <chuck`_> genii: PHP is working like a charm too, I made a script to show phpinfo() and no issues there
[08:52] <ShakaGoldSaint> CaptainMorgan, so you won't try beryl? :D :D :D
[08:52] <hollywoodb> kdeedk: search for "filesystem heirarchy standard"
[08:52] <genii> chuck`_: The only other thing I can think that may be affecting it is some scriptalias entry but offhand I forget which conf file those are in.
[08:53] <hollywoodb> Joshooa: not sure on that one... I know that partitions that are part of the actual root filesystem (like / or /home) don't show up on the desktop, other than that everything I've mounted has shown up fine, whether it is in /etc/fstab or not
[08:53] <pavs> is there a winamp for linux?
[08:53] <hollywoodb> pavs: xmms
[08:53] <kdeedk> hollywoodb Isn't "Filesystem Hiercachy Standard or FHS" Doesn't it just talk about it's filesystem (ext2, ext3) ?
[08:53] <chuck`_> genii: it wouldn't be hidden somewhere in apache2.conf?  I haven't set up apache since 1.3 so I don't know if theres shit hidden in 40 files now
[08:53] <hollywoodb> kdeedk: no, its a full heirarchy specification
[08:54] <genii> chuck`_: Hangon. Do chown www-data:www-data /var/www/test.cgi    right now group is still root
[08:54] <kdeedk> hollywoodb thank you very much.
[08:54] <hollywoodb> kdeedk: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[08:54] <pavs> hollywoodb i tried xmms and it has an ugly skin by default :( winamp wout be nice if it was ported to linux
[08:55] <peija-kas> pavs XMMS takes Winamp skins
[08:55] <xerophyte> how many people like the domain name linuxbee.org for linux related stuff
[08:55] <hollywoodb> pavs: xmms supports winamp classic skins, as does bmp (beep media player) and I believe audacious
[08:55] <peija-kas> just copy winamp skins to XMMS skins folder
[08:55] <peija-kas> classic skins yes
[08:55] <Joshooa> If I switch to KDE for a little, will it have my setting saved for my network and stuff?
[08:55] <peija-kas> xmms has the best plugin support..u can get anything to work on it...ape, mp4/aac,wav, crossfade etc
[08:55] <pavs> okay I will google it out
[08:55] <genii> chuck`_: As for the sciptalises and son om, no, it is in some sub conf file. apache2 separated them all out into places like /sites-enabled   and so on under the /etc/apache2 directory
[08:55] <peija-kas> even video plugin for XMMS done by Hyriand, it uses Mplayer for videos
[08:56] <hollywoodb> Joshooa: if you install "kubuntu-desktop" it will, if you do a full reinstall it won't unless you back up the proper stuff
[08:56] <chuck`_> genii: Still a 403 after changing the group
[08:56] <chuck`_> genii: did it on the dir itself as well
[08:56] <peija-kas> Joshooa best way is to install kde-desktop, then u can choose which desktop to use whne logging in
[08:56] <genii> chuck`_: OK. Let me find what file should hold the scriptaliases and so on. Back shortly
[08:57] <Joshooa> Okay, that's what I am doing now, I did it before and it didn't save my stuff and it broke a lot of programs.
[08:57] <peija-kas> Joshooa Change session/Kde from login window when kde-desktop is installed, apt-get install kde-desktop or thru synaptic
[08:57] <peija-kas> Joshooa wow, it broke something? never seen that happen
[08:57] <CaptainMorgan> that's whacked
[08:58] <peija-kas> Joshooa what od you mean, didnt save your stuff?
[08:58] <peija-kas> what happened?
[08:59] <peija-kas> KDE and Gnome and XFCE should be able to live on the same comp just fine :)
[08:59] <Joshooa> I already installed KDE
[08:59] <peija-kas> okies
[08:59] <genii> chuck`_: As a test cp the test.cgi file to /usr/lib/cgi-bin     then try to execute it with url something like localhost/cgi-bin/test.cgi
[08:59] <Joshooa> last time I did the apt-get thing, I went into KDE and all my network stuff was gone, it didn't recognize my card at all anymore, and no games would work and a lot of programs either
[08:59] <peija-kas> wow
[09:00] <peija-kas> well..thats weird
[09:00] <peija-kas> dont know what could cause that
[09:00] <Joshooa> Yeah
[09:00] <Joshooa> no clue
[09:00] <Joshooa> So hopefully this time it works!
[09:00] <peija-kas> all you did was install kde-desktop, u didnt remove anything?
[09:00] <peija-kas> like ubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <chuck`_> genii: I don't think I set up an alias for a cgi-bin, gimme a sec to do it
[09:01] <genii> chuck`_: No, don't.
[09:01] <peija-kas> ops, he left
[09:01] <chuck`_> genii: Well
[09:01] <genii> chuck`_: Jus cp the file there and try to run it by the url
[09:01] <chuck`_> genii: 404 of course
[09:02] <chuck`_> genii: Oh wait typo, heh
[09:02] <genii> chuck`_: There is some subconf file that I need to find the locale of. Am on a windoze box so have to look it up on web etc
[09:02] <VeganChick> haha, i have no idea what this means...
[09:02] <chuck`_> genii: Ah it worked
[09:02] <chuck`_> genii: So there's already a scriptalias defined for the cgi-bin somewhere
[09:02] <genii> chuck`_: Yes, good. So file syntax is good etc etc. Just need to find that subfile :) Gimme a minute
[09:03] <chuck`_> genii: isn't there a way to search the contents of all files in a dir with grep
[09:03] <genii> chuck`_: Yes, it is because of all the separating out in apache2   it pulls in a bunch of subconf files
[09:03] <chuck`_> genii: I can just do that for you ;o
[09:03] <Joshooa> Okay well I am in KDE now
[09:03] <Thinkpad_Guru> pavs, the linux winamp is beep media player. It even accepts winamp skins, and is indistinguishable from winamp
[09:04] <peija-kas> Joshooa and net works evidently :D
[09:04] <peija-kas> good
[09:04] <Joshooa> Can I get some help accessing my other hard drive though?
[09:04] <aric> is there a way, i can ghost a hard drive that has NTFS partition ?
[09:04] <genii> chuck`_: OK, gimme a pastebin of recursive subdirs/files in /etc/apache2
[09:04] <Frogzoo> chuck`_: grep blah *
[09:04] <peija-kas> Joshooa isnt it mounted by default..
[09:04] <nomego_> Hmm.. in what package is the madwifi kernel driver? "linux-restricted-modules-generic" ?
[09:04] <Mystology> i need help
[09:04] <Joshooa> peija-kas: no
[09:04] <peija-kas> did it mount in gnome
[09:04] <Mystology> what command to install cc in terminal?
[09:05] <Joshooa> peija-kas: If it was mounted by default, and i was asking for help, I should be shot
[09:05] <peija-kas> yea :/ sry
[09:05] <Frogzoo> Mystology: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:05] <infidel> !splash
[09:05] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[09:05] <genii> Mystology: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:05] <Joshooa> peija-kas: Unless it's just being mounted and not showing on my desktop, cause it could do that :)
[09:05] <VeganChick> (gedit:17861): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:05] <peija-kas> Joshooa try if it shows in KDE file manager..
[09:05] <infidel> !usplash
[09:05] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:05] <chuck`_> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10149/
[09:05] <peija-kas> I havent used KDE in a long time :/
[09:06] <peija-kas> anybody else here?
[09:06] <peija-kas> Help Joshooa with drive not showing mounted in KDE
[09:06] <genii> chuck`_: OK gimme a minute
[09:06] <peija-kas> is there GUI tool in KDE for that
[09:06] <Joshooa> peija-kas:  hdb1 does
[09:06] <Mystology> [root@jiehad lib] # sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:06] <Mystology> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[09:06] <Mystology> [root@jiehad lib] #
[09:06] <Joshooa> peija-kas: But not 2 or 3
[09:06] <chuck`_> K
[09:06] <Joshooa> peija-kas: I could be in Ubuntu
[09:07] <nomego_> how do I install packages that are "kept back" by apt?
[09:07] <hollywoodb> nomego_: with `upgrade` ? try with `dist-upgrade`
[09:07] <peija-kas> nomego_ usually theres a reason for them being kept back, like a missing dependency imho
[09:07] <peija-kas> not sure
[09:07] <nomego_> well, I think it's because they're "non-free2 ?
[09:07] <CaptainMorgan> !javac
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get javac.. it's not in synaptic
[09:08] <nomego_> CaptainMorgan: sun-java5-jre ?
[09:08] <genii> chuck please pastebin now /etc/apache2/sites-available/default contents           Sorry for all the hassle :)
[09:08] <genii> chuck`_: ^^
[09:09] <Mystology> anyone can help me to install cc in redhat?
[09:10] <genii> Mystology: Ubuntu is a debian-based distribution. For redhat/mandrake tech questions you should find a site specific for that
[09:10] <chuck`_> genii: Haha wow everything is in there
[09:11] <genii> chuck`_: Yeah that is the one we needed to find :)
[09:11] <chuck`_> genii: Why the hell did they move everything out of httpd.conf and into this?  Is this really more efficient?
[09:11] <Joshooa> How do I make GMail Notifier and Gaim open up on Ubuntu start up, but not on Kubuntu Start up/
[09:11] <genii> chuck`_: It's all the stuff that used to be in httpd.conf ...lag I forget the reasoning for the change but it's definitely annoying
[09:12] <VeganChick> Can someone help me figure out how to fix this? I got this error in terminal. "(gedit:17861): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[09:12] <genii> chuck`_: Anyhow, this is the one you need to add the scriptalias entry to. There should be one already as an example for the main /usr/lib/cgi-bin to go by
[09:13] <chuck`_> genii: Yeah the script alias for the cgi-bin is there, I just added the Options +ExecCGI to the docroot and now it's functioning
[09:13] <chuck`_> genii: Cheers :]
[09:13] <genii> chuck`_: Good :)
[09:14] <bohsain> whats the module/driver for this sound card: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:15] <tarzeau> bohsain: which alsa version do you have?
[09:15] <bohsain> tarzeau, 1.0.13
[09:16] <tarzeau> http://www.alsa-project.org/ dead?
[09:16] <Thinkpad_Guru> Joshooa add gaim to the startup list in sessions, which is in the preferences menu in gnome
[09:17] <Call> I'm looking for the Windows chat room. Can anybody help me?
[09:17] <Checkka> how do i disable window list grouping?
[09:17] <bohsain> tarzeau, yes dead :(
[09:17] <Checkka> it was annoying in Windows and its annoying in gnome
[09:17] <tarzeau> Call: ##windows
[09:18] <hollywoodb> Checkka: do "Preferences" on the task bar
[09:18] <Call> I think Bill Gates is so cool. Thank you tarzeau.
[09:18] <hollywoodb> Checkka: (there's a little "tab" on the left edge of it, right-click that)
[09:18] <VeganChick> it's after 4am...i should probably give up on Ubuntu for the night...err, morning?
[09:18] <Checkka> Where?
[09:19] <hollywoodb> Checkka: the task bar/window list... on the left edge of it there's a little "tab" type separator, right-click that and click preferences
[09:19] <dwa> Checkka, <super>u ungroups them
[09:19] <Checkka> i see
[09:19] <Checkka> yeah its on the seperator
[09:19] <Checkka> thanks
[09:20] <dwa> sorry, i misread
[09:20] <Checkka> gnite all
[09:21] <karel> evening all, has anyone figured out what broke wifi in the recent feisty update today?
[09:22] <shatrat> karel, probably kernel update with no corresponding linux-restricted-modules update.  try using the old kernel
[09:22] <karel> I did notice that one was held back
[09:23] <karel> thanks, I'll try that
[09:25] <InvisiblePinkUni> i am planning to encrypt my new hard drive, should I use encfs or truecrypt or are there other alternatives
[09:25] <InvisiblePinkUni> !encfs
[09:25] <ubotu> encfs: encrypted virtual filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-1-1 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[09:25] <InvisiblePinkUni> !truecrypt
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[09:26] <marshcast> i need help - my faith is waining... :(
[09:26] <marshcast> hello Chai_Sangeen
[09:27] <elijah> can somebody help me with my concern in kubuntu?
[09:27] <InvisiblePinkUni> elijah: ask and see...
[09:27] <InvisiblePinkUni> or ask and wait
[09:28] <peija-kas> marshcast whats the problem
[09:28] <marshcast> If i have a setup, I lock down all the panels etc, I allow streaming (using pandora) and the use of openoffice - is there any reason why the machine should slow up & become unresponsive? - after all these are not great tasks...
[09:28] <elijah> ok, i tried installing wine and got this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `dlls/mciavi32/Makefile.in', needed by `dlls/mciavi32/Makefile'.  Stop.Compilation failed, aborting install. "
[09:28] <peija-kas> marshcast open a terminal, type "top"
[09:28] <peija-kas> see if any prgs have crashed, ie. what prg is taking all the cpu?
[09:29] <peija-kas> that would be near the top
[09:29] <peija-kas> in the list
[09:29] <shatrat> elijah, why not install from the repository? there is no need to compile your own
[09:29] <peija-kas> yeah repos have a pretty new Wine
[09:29] <elijah> how will i do that?
[09:29] <hollywoodb> elijah: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:29] <peija-kas> elijah sudo apt-get install wine
[09:29] <Helmi> is there something like sound-themes or anything for ubuntu (gnome)? lot's of sounds currently route to the system beep which isn't that entertaining ;)
[09:29] <elijah> you mean i'll add that to my repos?
[09:30] <peija-kas> elijah it IS in the repos
[09:30] <peija-kas> no need to add
[09:30] <marshcast> peija-kas: peija-kas: i can't ssh it at the moment - they havent started up yet - but top doesnt usually lok out of sorts... - although ps -A sometimes shows a massive amount of instances of ssh-scan - and quite a few getty's
[09:30] <peija-kas> but no prg is taking more cpu than should?
[09:30] <elijah> but i already tried fetching updates but i didn't get one for wine
[09:31] <Chai_Sangeen> can anyone help i just installed ubuntu edgy on my bro's laptop "fujitsu siemens amilo 2060" everything is working perfectly, it has the Intel 2200 so the driver is all set and compiled, Fn F10 to use the wireless but its not turning on.. altough the iwconfig scan command its detecting the networks. can anybody help? on my old laptop i used acerhk
[09:31] <peija-kas> Id think it might be the Pandora...maybe some sound issue...try streaming with VLC etc and see if it still happens?
[09:31] <peija-kas> VideoLAN
[09:32] <lisapc> does edy come with a firewall?
[09:32] <lisapc> edgy :P
[09:32] <peija-kas> marshcast i dunno what those ssh-scans are..gettys are normally present in large numbers on my system too
[09:32] <r4nge> i'm trying to "su root" because i'm locked out of sudo but root doesnt have a password and the password i used for "sudo" doesnt work
[09:32] <peija-kas> lisapc install Firestarter
[09:32] <peija-kas> its a gui for making changes to iptables, the builtin firewall
[09:33] <peija-kas> lisapc "sudo apt-get install firestarter" in terminal
[09:33] <lisapc> peija-kas, im setting up Azuerus, and need to allow port forwarding.  where is the firewall?
[09:33] <fetcher> getty's are for the text consoles (Ctrl+Alt+F1, etc...)  and normally don't consume any CPU
[09:33] <peija-kas> lisapc then just run Firestarter, and you can set the port forwarding etc and open ports there
[09:33] <elijah> peija-kas
[09:33] <peija-kas> yes
[09:34] <lisapc> peija-kas, does edgy come with a firewall installed that i need to do it too also?
[09:34] <nomego_> how can I tell why a package has been kept back or force it to install?
[09:34] <elijah> peija-kas,  i tried sudo apt-get but it says E: package wine has no installation candidate
[09:34] <lisapc> how d I load edgys firewall?
[09:34] <marshcast> peija-kas: like i say - i can't check at the moment - they're ofline. I'll check it out though. Dont think i can vlc - pandora havent got to that ---- there are pandora issues with flash - flash claims the script is causing probs - so you think it could be that... Am i correct in assuming that once the box is running nothing should hang it on my side?
[09:34] <nomego_> for a pentium 4, should I use generic or i386 ?
[09:34] <peija-kas> lisapc Edgy has the firewall, its called iptables...fFirestarter is just a graphical tool that lets you configure the firewall
[09:34] <peija-kas> its a lot easier with Firestarter than editing the text file :D
[09:35] <lisapc> peija-kas, i loaded firestarter, but cant find port forwaring anywwhere in it.  any guidance?
[09:35] <marshcast> fetcher - and ssh-scan? should there be 15 to 20 of them?
[09:35] <peija-kas> marshcast i would suspect its the pandora
[09:35] <peija-kas> lisapc did you run the setup wizard in Firestarter?
[09:35] <hollywoodb> elijah: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:35] <marshcast> peija-kas: thanks. That restores my faith.
[09:35] <lisapc> peija-kas, yes, firestarter is now instyalled
[09:35] <peija-kas> sec
[09:35] <lisapc> peija-kas, where in FS do I do port forwarding?
[09:35] <peija-kas> lisapc click on the Policy tab in Firestarter
[09:35] <DeL3e7> lol
[09:35] <HexDump> hi all
[09:36] <peija-kas> its there, on the bottom of Policy tab
[09:36] <DeL3e7> have u been counting down the days or somethin
[09:36] <fetcher> marshcast: dunno... I'm new to ubuntu, but have never seen that only other Linux machines before
[09:36] <peija-kas> lisapc on the top you can choose Editing:inbound/outbound policy
[09:36] <fetcher> s/only/on/
[09:36] <lisapc> peija-kas, ok! i cloicked in polixy. now?
[09:36] <lisapc> peija-kas, ok
[09:36] <peija-kas> lisapc just like you would on any windows firewall etc
[09:37] <Evil> hello
[09:37] <marshcast> peija-kas: given that - could I 'nice' epiphany - or would I have to 'nice' the flash9? (difficult as i cant see it running :/)
[09:37] <kdeedk> Evil hi
[09:37] <lisapc> peija-kas, do I right click and chose ADD RULE?
[09:37] <peija-kas> lisapc yes
[09:37] <Evil> can someone help me with a sound problem on feisty?..
[09:37] <peija-kas> marshcast yes, you could try that...
[09:37] <marshcast> lisapc: you got it... follow your nose ;)
[09:37] <hollywoodb> Evil: #ubuntu+1 for development versions like feisty
[09:37] <lisapc> peija-kas, it says IP, host or network
[09:38] <lisapc> peija-kas, it doesnt say port
[09:38] <marshcast> peija-kas: thanks - i'll give it a go... will come back & let you know when they're online
[09:38] <Evil> thanks
[09:38] <peija-kas> erm, lisapc, if youre just using azureus. its enough if you just open the port, you dont need to actually forward it
[09:38] <marshcast> Oh.. peija-kas - just another quick one.... what is linux doing when it takes ages to wake it from it's sleep? why's it take so long to start up?
[09:38] <peija-kas> just add Allow service, port (the azuresu port) i think
[09:38] <lisapc> peija-kas, how do I open the port in firestarter?
[09:39] <marshcast> you know?
[09:39] <peija-kas> lisapc its on the same page, Allow service, right click on it, Add rule
[09:39] <lisapc> peija-kas, I cant see Allow service anywhere
[09:39] <peija-kas> marshcast sleep doesnt work very well on all computers
[09:39] <peija-kas> lisapc the box above Forward service
[09:40] <peija-kas> on Policy tab
[09:40] <lisapc> peija-kas, ok found it!  do I chose utorrent as name?
[09:40] <lisapc> bittorrent actually
[09:40] <peija-kas> whatever u want, just put the port number u use in Azureus
[09:40] <peija-kas> Azureus doesnt use the default bittorent port that is 6881
[09:40] <peija-kas> check from Azu what it uses, and add that
[09:41] <peija-kas> then you can click Test in azureus and it tells u if it can connect fine
[09:41] <lisapc> peija-kas, ok done!
[09:41] <lisapc> peija-kas, but the download speed stayed the same
[09:41] <peija-kas> eeh
[09:42] <peija-kas> im sorry, i have to go vote in the parliamentary election now :/ ill see you guys later
[09:42] <lisapc> peija-kas, do I need to add port forwarding to my modem?
[09:42] <peija-kas> lisapc yes if your modem has a router
[09:42] <lisapc> peija-kas, u can run, but u cant hide
[09:42] <lisapc> peija-kas, :)
[09:42] <drummer_wilson> hi! could someone tell me how do i change my login manager theme? ive downloaded some pics
[09:42] <lisapc> peija-kas, what will that do?
[09:42] <lisapc> drummer_wilson, are the pics clean ones?
[09:42] <peija-kas> erm i cant know since i dont know what modem you have, or does it have a router :(
[09:43] <drummer_wilson> they are made for gdk login manager
[09:43] <lisapc> peija-kas, its a router
[09:43] <lisapc> peija-kas, what will forward porting do?
[09:43] <peija-kas> lisapc but azuresu wouldnt work at all imho if it had one
[09:43] <drummer_wilson> i got them from a site, gnome art or whatever
[09:43] <lisapc> peija-kas, azureus downloads now. so what will that achieve?
[09:43] <drummer_wilson> lisapc: u know how to do it?
[09:43] <hollywoodb> drummer_wilson: under System -> Administration -> Login Window , click "Add"
[09:43] <peija-kas> lisapc port forwarding means that when the router gets data in, it knows to send it to certain port on your computer (its IP)
[09:43] <lisapc> drummer_wilson, what does port forwarding achieve in the modem?
[09:44] <peija-kas> so it passes on the data to a certain port on your comp
[09:44] <peija-kas> forwarding
[09:44] <lisapc> peija-kas, but it works now when I download some things using Azureus
[09:44] <peija-kas> then it shoulndt be routing or it is set up..if it didnt, azureus could get no data at all
[09:44] <drummer_wilson> hollywoodb: thnx
[09:44] <peija-kas> now i gotta go vote :D
[09:45] <peija-kas> cya laters
[09:45] <lisapc> peija-kas, so I dont have to change my modem porting?
[09:45] <marshcast> lisapc - i think one of the thinmgs with the linux environment is that you have to investigate things for yourself - you have to try lots of different approaches and see if they work. A pen and paper is handy to keep track so you can put stuff back again, but it is the only way to learn...
[09:46] <marshcast> lisapc: and not be a pain in the bum ;)
[09:46] <marshcast> thanks peija-kas
[09:48] <marshcast> lisapc: you still there?
[09:48] <Xif> OK, in Ubuntu (Gnome), to paste the content of the + clipboard, I press Shift+Insert. How do I paste the contents of the * clipboard (besides Middle Click)?
[09:48] <huschi_> i've got a notebook with a radeon mobility x300. does anybody know how i can use an external monitor?
[09:48] <CaptainMorgan> !codecs
[09:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <lisapc> marshall, yes?
[09:48] <marshcast> how'd it go?
[09:48] <lisapc> what?
[09:49] <hollywoodb> Xif: Ctrl+v perhaps?
[09:49] <marshcast> yr port forwarding.
[09:49] <Xif> hollywoodb: nope, that pastes the + buffer as well.
[09:49] <lisapc> marshall, well Azerus works now, so i guess I dont need to add it to modem
[09:50] <balrok> hello, i accidantly forgot my sudo pw.. how can i change it? (i already booted from another linux, chrooted.. but chpasswd doesn't work :/
[09:50] <DeL3e7> ktorrent works fine for me
[09:50] <DeL3e7> i got mad with azureus
[09:50] <hollywoodb> balrok: your sudo password is the same as your user password... if you need to change it, while chroot'd do `passwd <user>`
[09:51] <marshcast> lisapc - cool. - hope i didn't sound to patronising, but it's taken me a long time to realise that you gotta play around, and it is sound advice (i hope)...
[09:51] <lisapc> marshall, is 42kB/s slow for azuerus?
[09:51] <balrok> ah thank you =)
[09:51] <marshcast> lisapc: Also --- did you know that if you type in the first few letters of a name and then press TAB - it auto completes?
[09:52] <lisapc> im download a ubuntu image and azerus is giving 42kB/s\
[09:52] <DeL3e7> well.. like take for instance my dsl connection is 3Mbits down 700Kbits up converted to KB thats like 300+KB down and 80KBup
[09:52] <lisapc> marshall, ok ty for the lesson ;)
[09:52] <lisapc> DeL3e7, how fast is your azuerus?
[09:52] <DeL3e7> depends on the torrent
[09:52] <DeL3e7> if theres few seeders then of course it'll be awhile
[09:53] <DeL3e7> if at all
[09:53] <marshcast> lisa - it depends on lots and lots of things - your memory, your cpu speed, what else you have running, your connection speed... an endless list - but apparently torrents are not know to be fast transfer rates, but easy on servers
[09:53] <marshcast> lisapc: ^^^
[09:53] <twiztr> Hey everyone
[09:54] <twiztr> Anyone know of any like, bult package installers like EasyUbuntu?
[09:54] <DeL3e7> if theres a ton of seeders donating there up bandwidth it can easilly max your connection
[09:54] <marshcast> lisapc: i say the TAB thing 'cause me names not marshall!!! ;)
[09:54] <lisapc> marshall, ok ty
[09:54] <aev> Can is use this wonderfull resource to just ask away
[09:54] <lisapc> marshcast,  ;)
[09:54] <marshcast> but u can call me what you like :P
[09:54] <lisapc> lol
[09:54] <lisapc> :-)
[09:55] <HexDump> Im trying to access ubuntu from windows using putty. I can get access to the console level but not to the X. When I try to lo XWindows I get the error:
[09:55] <twiztr> aev: ofcourse
[09:55] <aev> w00t
[09:55] <aev> and it is still early
[09:55] <HexDump> connection broken :S, does anybody know wht is happeinbing?
[09:55] <marshcast> OK - i gotta get breakfast. good luck y'all... happy hackin' !D
[09:55] <aev> ive got this xorg.conf problem with nvidia twinview for which i cant seem to find an answer,
[09:55] <twiztr> HexDump: You sitting in front of the box?
[09:56] <r4nge> anyone know a workaround if i'm locked out of using sudo, i accidentely o-x sudo and now i cant chmod it back obviously so i have no sudo powers
[09:56] <HexDump> twiztr: yes... well I have my linux box without moniotr, on win now, but I can connect to it
[09:56] <genii> HexDump You are using X forwarding
[09:56] <Xif> How do I bind the X clipboard paste to something other than middle-click?
[09:56] <genii> ?
[09:56] <HexDump> genii: yes.
[09:56] <ShoyuRamen> aev, you need and x in windows
[09:56] <MikeC2> niffty
[09:57] <tkp> how can I find out which package provided a particular binary?
[09:57] <aev> i use the twinview, clone setting to use TV-out on a nvidia geforce card, however when i configure it to use say 1280CRT and 800 TV , the cloned display, the TV is a portion of the CRT space
[09:57] <fetcher> r4nge: you could boot off a CD, mount the filesystem and chmod it back
[09:57] <student_> how you
[09:57] <aev> id like it to be scaled down just the same fullscreen but 800
[09:57] <aev> is that possible ?
[09:57] <r4nge> fetcher: mount the filesystem?
[09:57] <genii> HexDump: Are you using some X client on windoze like xming?
[09:57] <HexDump> genii: nop. Is it needed?
[09:57] <genii> Yes
[09:58] <HexDump> genii: the tutorial I checked didnt say anything about it...
[09:58] <HexDump> genii: ohhh, , it should be incomplete
[09:58] <HexDump> genii: do you recomend xming?
[09:58] <fetcher> r4nge: to access files on the hard drive after booting the CD.  There's probably a HOWTO somewhere with the details
[09:58] <ShoyuRamen> aev, i'd just use x11/cygwin
[09:59] <genii> HexDump: Yes, or use another method called freenx
[09:59] <aev> the xorg.conf thing is in /dev/X11 thus i assume it IS X11,
[09:59] <aev> what is cygwin?
[09:59] <ShoyuRamen> sorry, not aev, but HexDump
[09:59] <genii> (for the entire remote desktop thing)
[09:59] <HexDump> ShoyuRamen: oh...
[09:59] <r4nge> ok, i dont have local access atm though :(
[09:59] <r4nge> was hoping for a remote fix but it appears su - doesnt work
[09:59] <aev> ShoyuRamen: lol
[09:59] <genii> ShoyuRamen: cygwin is such a hassle tho
[09:59] <bobslaede> anybody have evolution mail have their mail be doubled, so every email is there twice?
[10:00] <aev> i wanted to getout of this windows thing :)
[10:00] <fetcher> will an old Athlon XP2000 w/ 768MB RAM run OK with the Gnome desktop?  Or should I go with XFCE ?
[10:00] <fetcher> (xebuntu, the one for low-end systems)
[10:01] <genii> HexDump: X forwarding with putty/Xming is simplest setup dfor what you already have
[10:02] <HexDump> genii: thanks, I supposed that. With putty Im allways left in level 3? or should I start a x session directly?
[10:02] <Dralid> In the Linux/Ubuntu layout, which directories contain personal information, which contain settings and preferences, and which contain binaries and code that can easily be rebuilt?
[10:03] <genii> HexDump putty has a feature for enabling remote X over ssh
[10:03] <HexDump> genii: ok ok.
[10:03] <HexDump> genii: thnx
[10:03] <genii> HexDump I'll try to find you some reference :)
[10:04] <nospi> hey
[10:05] <nospi> im new to linux, just moved from Windows XP
[10:05] <InvisiblePinkUni> nospi: welcome to linux :)
[10:05] <nospi> it's so different to windows :p
[10:05] <nospi> i need to stop being lazy
[10:05] <Industrial> Its 13 3 7 today!
[10:06] <nospi> hahaah :p
[10:06] <nospi> cool
[10:06] <nospi> leet day.
[10:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> nospi: keep reading man pages
[10:07] <nospi> which ones though? I sort of don't know where to start
[10:07] <nospi> i am hopeless at compiling programs
[10:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> man man
[10:07] <nospi> i tried to install ndiswrapper through the terminal... didn't work.
[10:07] <nospi> ok thanks
[10:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> small steps
[10:07] <r4nge> whats the proper way to use "su" instead of sudo
[10:07] <Madpilot> nospi, man intro
[10:07] <Madpilot> ubotu, cli | nospi
[10:07] <ubotu> nospi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:08] <nospi> woot
[10:08] <nospi> i got wine working anyhow
[10:08] <arooni> how can i start a new process and supress output to my terminal?  which option do i want (besides the & one)
[10:08] <fetcher> r4nge: 'su' by itself, enter, then supply your password and you should reach a root shell prompt
[10:08] <nospi> just installed winrar as a test
[10:09] <ardchoille> fetcher: That is not recommended.
[10:09] <fetcher> ardchoille: he broke his sudo :/
[10:09] <genii> HexDump: Bottom of this page has old instructions but very simple http://www.techsential.com/2006/04/
[10:09] <r4nge> fetcher: didnt work, i used the same password that works for sudo (i'm the initial user)
[10:09] <fetcher> r4nge: after doing the chmod, type exit (or control-D) to get back to normal privileges
[10:10] <ardchoille> fetcher: That wouldn't work anyway for two reasons. 1) the root account is locked, 2) su expects the root password, not the user password.
[10:10] <pyrohotdog> Anyone know a way to configure a USB game pad as a sort of...media remote? For say, VLC?
[10:10] <drummer_wilson> whats the minimul hdd space for ubuntu?
[10:10] <fetcher> ardchoille: like Mac OS X, then, hmm...
[10:10] <drummer_wilson> minimum*
[10:10] <genii> HexDump: Scroll down to where "xming" part begins
[10:10] <r4nge> ardchoille: and unfortunately i never set a root password
[10:11] <ardchoille> r4nge: That means your root account is locked.
[10:11] <ardchoille> r4nge: You can use recover mode.
[10:11] <hume> hi...what type do I set a partition to in cfdisk, when I am going to format it to reiserfs?
[10:11] <fetcher> r4nge: you'll probably have to boot from the CD, then...
[10:11] <r4nge> i'm on a remote machine
[10:11] <r4nge> :/
[10:11] <kdeedk> If i have 4 IDE , should it be hda1, hda2, hda3, hda4 or hda, hdb, hdc, hdd?
[10:12] <ardchoille> kdeedk: The latter
[10:12] <anarchron> hi guys
[10:12] <ardchoille> kdeedk: hda1 and hda2 would be the first and second partitions on hda
[10:12] <r4nge> so no point in me playing around with su anymore?
[10:12] <HexDump> genii: thanks a lot man
[10:13] <anarchron> how do I reduce the startup time if I have a wireless card and I don't want /etc/init.d/networking to handle its wpa?
[10:13] <ardchoille> r4nge: No point really
[10:13] <genii> HexDump: np :) report back if you still have probs. Make sure sshd_config file has X forwarding enabled also
[10:14] <ardchoille> r4nge: Just curious, how did you break sudo?
[10:15] <kdeedk> ardchoille hda1 is primary,master .. hda2 is primary,slave .. right?
[10:15] <DeL3e7> i still like to "sudo su"
[10:15] <hume> anyone knows what type I set the filesystem to in cfdisk, when I am planning on formatting it to reiserfs?
[10:15] <fetcher> kdeedk: no.  hda = primary master, hdb = primary slave
[10:16] <r4nge> ardchoille: o-x
[10:16] <DeL3e7> hume doesnt matter, only matters what you format it as via mkfs
[10:16] <fetcher> kdeedk: numbers after the letter are just for partitions on the disk
[10:16] <_StefanS_> does the the stock ubuntu kernel support more than 2gigs of memory ?
[10:16] <ardchoille> kdeedk: no, hda1 is the first partitions on hda, hda2 is the second partition on hda. hda is the primary master, hdb is the primary slave
[10:16] <nospi> im having trouble with the music player
[10:16] <r4nge> so now i can use sudo because i cant execute it :/
[10:17] <ardchoille> r4nge: Ah, yeah
[10:17] <nospi> my hard drive is partitioned with XP and Linux, and i have all my mp3's i got on the XP partition
[10:17] <nospi> i want to use them with the linux player
[10:17] <r4nge> only the owner (root) can but that needs sudo
[10:17] <r4nge> heh
[10:17] <nospi> but when i try and import the folder into the music player it doesn't let me
[10:17] <DeL3e7> well mine says i have 1GB of ram wich i do have if it didnt have large ram support then i wouldnt see 1G
[10:17] <kdeedk> hdc = secondary,master .. hdd = secondary,slave .. right?
[10:17] <ardchoille> kdeedk: Yes
[10:18] <DeL3e7> dmesg |grep hd always helps
[10:18] <fetcher> kdeedk: yup, and remember that some of those could be CD/DVD drives
[10:18] <red4lpha> whats the syntax to run an app under root user?
[10:18] <DeL3e7> sudo?
[10:18] <velle> I have a serious prob with my ubuntu machine (im on a different one now). It seems that everything I want to do as root is ignored. E.g. "sudo dhclient eth0", it does not print any output and the command is finished instantly. If I run it without sudo it works as it should.
[10:18] <ardchoille> red4lpha: for cli apps, sudo appname; for gui apps gksudo appname
[10:19] <red4lpha> ty
[10:19] <velle> It happened sometime last night when I was trying to setup sshfs, but I am not sure exactly what triggered it. I have ofcourse tried rebooting, but no change.
[10:20] <ardchoille> red4lpha: You're welcome :)
[10:21] <nospi> anybody know what could be wrong?
[10:21] <snotch> nospi, that's probably permissions problems. Run the music program as root and see if it works
[10:21] <nospi> do i need to install mp3 codecs or something?
[10:21] <nospi> how do i run a GUI program as root?
[10:21] <nospi> just login as root?
[10:21] <snotch> nospi, ah, and do "apt-get install mpg321"
[10:21] <Zta> So.. I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html and install the ntpd with sudo apt-get install ntp-simple.   But I don't get an /etc/ntp.conf like I should.  Why?
[10:21] <ardchoille> nospi: gksudo appname
[10:21] <snotch> nospi, that'll give you the mp3 librarys
[10:22] <nospi> ok
[10:22] <nospi> thanks
[10:22] <ardchoille> nospi: xmms plays mp3's out of the box
[10:22] <kdeedk> amaroK plays mp3 too
[10:22] <snotch> nospi, just try the root thing once, you shouldn't run it as root all the time
[10:22] <nospi> i installed XMMS through the add/remove programs but it's not on the accessories list
[10:23] <CheshireViking> is there a way of using ubuntu to access a samsung d900 mobile phone - not for editing phone data, just to be able to get photo's off it & add mp3's etc  via a usb cable?
[10:23] <ardchoille> nospi: You can't log in as root, the root account is locked on Ubuntu.
[10:23] <nospi> i unlocked it :p
[10:23] <ardchoille> nospi: xmms is under the Sound & Video menu
[10:24] <ardchoille> nospi: It is a bad idea to unlock root.
[10:24] <nospi> i know
[10:24] <nospi> i didn't know what i was doing
[10:24] <nospi> i'll lock it again
[10:24] <nospi> ok nevermind, must've unticked XMMS accidentally
[10:24] <velle> I have a serious prob with my ubuntu machine (im on a different one now). It seems that everything I want to do as root is ignored. E.g. "sudo dhclient eth0", it does not print any output and the command is finished instantly. If I run it without sudo it works as it should. It happened sometime last night when I was trying to setup sshfs, but I am not sure exactly what triggered it. I have ofcourse tried rebooting, but no change.
[10:26] <karim> hi
[10:26] <velle> Does anybody know have suggestions, or else please tell me where to look for help.
[10:26] <karim> when I goes back from hibernation, I can't enter the password, the keyboard seems to not enter keys
[10:26] <lisapc> can I change what happens when I close my lid on my laptop?
[10:26] <karim> a+lt+backspace works though
[10:26] <nospi> how do i lock the root account again? sorry :S
[10:27] <Rooy> gstreamer apps (totem, rhythm box, exaile) needs gstreamer-plugin-ugly to plays mp3
[10:27] <nospi> nevermind
[10:27] <genii> nospi passwd -l root
[10:27] <genii> sudo of course
[10:28] <lisapc> can I change what happens when I close my lid on my laptop?
[10:28] <genii> HexDump: Still awake?
[10:29] <dani_> hi, I have feisty on a new macbook pro and with latest kernels keyboard and USB gets unresponsive after the boot... I can't find any published solution. Is it a known problem?
[10:29] <pyrohotdog> How do I copy directories from a remote server in smbclient?
[10:29] <nospi> i didnt think feisty was out yet?
[10:30] <genii> dani_ You should ask in #ubuntu+1 since feisty is not release yet
[10:30] <dani_> oh! ok, I didn't know about that channel :) thankyou
[10:30] <genii> dani_ np
[10:31] <pavs>  am using edgy how do i upgrade to fiesty? if I upgrade do i loose my settings for edgy?
[10:31] <CheshireViking> !feisty > dani_
[10:31] <funpop> if linux-restricted-modules is not installed, but fglrx is used as driver, what will happen ?
[10:31] <Rooy> !feisty | pavs
[10:31] <ubotu> pavs: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:31] <karim> when I goes back from hibernation, I can't enter the password, the keyboard seems to not enter keys
[10:32] <dani_> ok ok, I'll change my default channel :)
[10:32] <Zta> So.. I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html and install the ntpd with sudo apt-get install ntp-simple.   But I don't get an /etc/ntp.conf like I should.  Why?
[10:32] <genii> pavs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[10:33] <pavs> genii thnx
[10:33] <genii> pavs np
[10:34] <lisapc> when my laptop lid is closed, its set for BLANK.  Will this still keep downloads active?
[10:35] <nospi> hey
[10:35] <nospi> i installed that mpg321 plugin
[10:35] <nospi> im getting a message in the music player when i try to import
[10:36] <nospi> The GStreamer plugins to decode "Unknown" files cannot be found
[10:36] <nospi> i really want to get my music working, i have both .WMA and .MP3 files
[10:36] <nospi> should i just install media player with WINE?
[10:37] <green> nospi ru tying to listen to a stream link station?
[10:37] <nospi> no
[10:37] <nospi> wait, i think i've fixed it
[10:37] <Zta> apt-get install xmms  usually works
[10:37] <genii> nospi Did you follow trhe instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  ?
[10:38] <kekexili> #who
[10:38] <nospi> yes
[10:38] <nospi> it's fixed
[10:38] <green> i had to convert the mp3's to ogg to burn them but other than that the wma's wont play
[10:38] <nospi> i rebooted and imported, but it still gave me the error
[10:38] <nospi> after a few minutes it worked though
[10:39] <dxsoma> is it ntfs-3g safe?
[10:39] <HexDump> genii: just one more question. To connect to the current xwindows session existing in the linux box (Like a were in front of the box), can be only done throgh vnc? I hope putty could do something like this, but I can only execute stand alone apps :S, is there anyway to see the desktop?
[10:39] <HexDump> (perhaps this is a dumb question)
[10:42] <genii> HexDump: For xforwarding, usually only the specific apps get forwarded. You can set gdm to be forwarded also tho, so you can use it to login as whatever user. But for an existing session, you need to either run come rdc or vnc to enter it. There is a "shared desktop" option for X someplace but I forget now how to configure/find it
[10:43] <Shadowpillar> !wifi
[10:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:43] <HexDump> genii: gonna try to find something about it :)
[10:43] <nospi> !help
[10:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:43] <genii> HexDump  OK :) I'll look a bit too
[10:43] <HexDump> genii: thnx mate
[10:46] <KenSentMe> Does anyone here use Democracy Player on Edgy? Mine sometimes reacts very slow on mouse clicks etc. Does that occur to others too?
[10:47] <nospi> whats the best Instant Messager for linux?
[10:47] <nospi> i used to use MSN
[10:47] <KenSentMe> nospi, gaim, i think
[10:47] <nospi> no aim, yim, icq or anything
[10:47] <nospi> ok thanks
[10:47] <nospi> not Trillian?
[10:47] <nospi> i heard that it's good
[10:47] <KenSentMe> nospi, only it doesn't support webcam
[10:47] <nospi> oh ok
[10:47] <KenSentMe> nospi, is there a linux client for trillian?
[10:48] <mo^> [mo^()]  e easier to handle. but c is, while well-coded, faster than c++. right?
[10:48] <mo^> damn
[10:49] <nospi> not sure
[10:49] <nospi> how do i reply to someone?
[10:49] <ardchoille> nospi: Type their nick and then the reply
[10:49] <KenSentMe> nospi, just type the first letters of the nick and hit tab to complete the name
[10:50] <kaptengu> why doesn't greasemonkey work in ubuntu?
[10:50] <nospi> KenSentMe, thanks
[10:50] <CheshireViking> nospi, i used to use Gaim and switched over to aMSN because I found that Gaim wasn't showing my online/busy/away status to msn users
[10:50] <nospi> ardchoille, cool :)
[10:50] <genii> HexDump: What dist are you using? Edgy Dapper etc
[10:50] <mo^> a friend and I want to try to create an own web browser. what do you think is better to use: c or c++? c++ might be easier to use, but c is, while well-coded, faster than c++. right?
[10:50] <nospi> CheshireViking, does gaim show your display pic to other msn userS?
[10:50] <nospi> CheshireViking, i couldn't see my friend's just then
[10:51] <KenSentMe> nospi, it works here
[10:51] <predaeus> mo^: maybe D is now an option.
[10:51] <nospi> KenSentMe, it is enabled by default?
[10:51] <kaptengu> kinda hard to make yourself heard in here
[10:51] <nospi> KenSentMe, also gaim keeps crashing
[10:51] <CheshireViking> nospi, i don't know about the display pictures, its something i've never tried
[10:52] <KenSentMe> nospi, hmm, that doesn't happen here. What version of Ubuntu do you use?
[10:52] <pdamer> Hi, I just installed xubuntu on an hp laptop and I am getting random system freezes,  Any hints as what to look for?
[10:52] <nospi> CheshireViking, i know that trillian does, but i don't know if you can get it for linux
[10:52] <mo^> predaeus: but you cannot find much help in D-related questions...
[10:53] <predaeus> mo^: there is a #D channel here. I have not really coded D yet. Only the hello world stuff. But it seems to be very nice. Best of C, Java, C++ and other languages together.
[10:53] <nospi> anyone know where i can get more themes? or a program like StyleXP or Windowblinds for linux?
[10:54] <nospi> D?
[10:54] <predaeus> mo^: and you can use all the C libs I think. Like GTK for GUI or so.
[10:54] <nospi> predaeus, never heard of it, is it a new language?
[10:54] <ardchoille> nospi: http://www.gnome-look.org  http://art.gnome.org
[10:54] <nospi> ardchoille, thanks :)
[10:54] <nospi> ardchoille, i should stop asking, because im googling at the same time lol
[10:54] <predaeus> nospi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28programming_language%29
[10:55] <ardchoille> nospi: No, asking questions is what this channel is all about. Also, others may learn from your questions :)
[10:55] <CheshireViking> nospi, i've got a feeling that gaim is more like windows messenger, while aMSN logs in as though its a windows live messenger equivalent
[10:55] <genii> HexDump Still awake? If so i have some thoughts for you
[10:55] <mo^> predaeus: thanks.
[10:55] <mo^> gonna have a look at it.
[10:55] <predaeus> you are welcome
[10:55] <pdamer> Any guesses as to where to find the cause of random hard locks?
[10:56] <dusty-work> Hey guys, I have a linux workstation in work and we have a windows fileserver with a couple of shared drives.  I need to access these drives from my linux workstation - which is the best/easiest way to do this?
[10:56] <genii> dusty-work: smbclient
[10:56] <nospi> CheshireViking, cool, i'll get aMSN then
[10:56] <dusty-work> genii, thanks
[10:56] <genii> dusty-work: np
[10:57] <Slart> dusty-work: samba would be my first guess