[15:15] <railsraider> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/589841/upstart-calling-script-for-inserted-usb-drive
[15:15] <railsraider> i figured a shared folder would act the same?
[15:15] <railsraider> but it doesnt
[15:16] <ikonia> no because the shared folder is not really a device trigger
[15:16] <ikonia> it's a userspace mount
[15:16] <koss> wow cheap http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BQ8RHJ2/fpv-20/
[15:16] <ikonia> koss: nothing to do with this channel
[15:16] <railsraider> virtualbox is mounting it like a network drive
[15:16] <koss> sorry
[15:17] <ikonia> railsraider: virtual box uses it's own internal method to present drives
[15:17] <railsraider> the point is that its not mounted yet
[15:17] <railsraider> if iadd what EriC^^  suggested would that not halt the system?
[15:18] <ikonia> I think you are approaching it wrong
[15:18] <EriC^^> railsraider: put whatever you want to run inside the if
[15:18] <ikonia> I don't think upstart should be doing this, but if you MUST use upstart, just put a depend resource on that script on a specific file system
[15:18] <EriC^^> that will just check if it's mounted or not
[15:18] <railsraider> in the upstart file ?
[15:18] <ikonia> so it will not run that script until that file system is available
[15:18] <railsraider> i’ll give it a try
[15:24] <kraftb> hi !
[15:25] <kraftb> I don't wanna blame it on Ubuntu. But I have to struggle with getting my system operational again since 2 days :(
[15:25] <kraftb> Maybe it was the Krampus
[15:26] <rafi> minimal smtp forwarder for php and a system mta for local machine, any recommendations?
[15:26] <kraftb> I would suggest postfix or exim
[15:27] <DF3D2> okay something is wrong
[15:27] <DF3D2> I have two ubuntu machines and neither one can I restart networking on
[15:27] <railsraider> ikonia: EriC^^ here’s my upstart http://pastie.org/9760671 with the change of the if file, the process says that its running but its not, when i launch it manually it does work
[15:28] <DF3D2> "stop job failed while stopping"
[15:28] <DF3D2> so I have to reboot to change network settings, wtf ?
[15:28] <ikonia> railsraider: thats not what I advised you do
[15:29] <railsraider> im sorry i completl skipped your line, i’ll try that now
[15:30] <DF3D2> anyone know what is up ?
[15:30] <DF3D2> doing ifconfig eth0 down and ifconfig eth0 up doesn't work either
[15:30] <kraftb> DF3D2: Any messages?
[15:30] <kraftb> does "dmesg" say anything?
[15:31] <kraftb> tail -f /var/log/messages
[15:31] <EriC^^> */var/log/syslog
[15:31] <kraftb> ifconfig -v
[15:31] <DF3D2> the interfaces shows up
[15:31] <daftykins> DF3D2: yeah it hasn't worked via that method for years now, full reboot.
[15:31] <DF3D2> daftykins: why would I need to reboot? that's like anti linux
[15:31] <EriC^^> DF3D2: how are you rebooting it?
[15:31] <daftykins> welcome to fact versus theory.
[15:32] <EriC^^> DF3D2: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:32] <kraftb> It differs what people define as the innermost "essence" of Linux :)
[15:32] <kraftb> At least the essence is free :)
[15:32] <DF3D2> EriC^^: no error but doesn't work either
[15:32] <DF3D2> and my interface isnt getting an IP even tho it is set to static
[15:32] <EriC^^> DF3D2: sudo service network-manager restart ?
[15:33] <DF3D2> im not using network-manager
[15:33] <kraftb> And they don't beg you to buy any Ubuntu shirts
[15:33] <ikonia> the network stack should be provided by network manager by default
[15:33] <daftykins> !ot | kraftb
[15:33] <ikonia> so unless you have disabled that you shouldn't be configuring your network anywhere else
[15:33] <DF3D2> okay so it allowed me to restart network-manager
[15:33] <DF3D2> but my interface still isnt pulling the Ip I assigned staticly
[15:33] <ikonia> pulling the IP ?
[15:34] <ikonia> it's static, it doesn't come from anywhere
[15:34] <EriC^^> sudo ifconfig <interface> down && sudo ifconfig <interface> up ?
[15:34] <kraftb> DF3D2: Using "ifconfig" will set the IP for a short time
[15:34] <ikonia> EriC^^: no
[15:34] <daftykins> did you hand edit the interfaces file?
[15:34] <ikonia> it's controlled by network manager
[15:34] <ikonia> upping/downing the interface does nothing
[15:34] <kraftb> but soon it will get reset to the settings defined by the network manager
[15:34] <kraftb> what do you mean by: you are not using network manager?
[15:34] <DF3D2> rebooting didn't help either
[15:34] <daftykins> none of you have stopped to ask if this is a server thus rendering NM irrelevant
[15:34] <DF3D2> and my /etc/network/interfaces is correct
[15:35] <DF3D2> THIS RIG is not a server
[15:35] <ikonia> you should not be using /etc/network/interfaces
[15:35] <DF3D2> but i get the same behavior on ubuntu-server on my other rig
[15:35] <ikonia> remove all that stuff you put in and use network manager
[15:35] <ikonia> network manager will fight with that
[15:35] <daftykins> DF3D2: nice caps
[15:35] <DF3D2> how do I use network-manager ?
[15:35] <DF3D2> daftykins: what ?
[15:35] <kraftb> whats in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:35] <kraftb> well if you have a ubuntu desktop network manager will be used by default
[15:35] <yecril71pl> How can I connect to a shared calendar in Microsoft Exchange?
[15:35] <DF3D2> im not using unity
[15:36] <DF3D2> im using ubuntu 14.10 with i3 window manager
[15:36] <kraftb> which also leeds us to the question: which varian of ubuntu are you using?
[15:36] <ikonia> DF3D2: thats fine
[15:36] <DF3D2> my network interfaces file has: iface eth1 inet static
[15:36] <DF3D2> and then all the correct info after that
[15:36] <compdoc> what abouit eth0?
[15:36] <DF3D2> i don't have an eth0, just eth1
[15:37] <ikonia> DF3D2: remove the mapping data from /etc/network/interfaces
[15:37] <DF3D2> according to ifconfig -a
[15:37] <DF3D2> ikonia: okay
[15:37] <DF3D2> even the lo info ?
[15:37] <daftykins> no
[15:38] <compdoc> DF3D2, have you added or removed interfaces? you might look at your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[15:38] <DF3D2> k
[15:39] <DF3D2> apparently it changed from eth0 to eth1
[15:39] <DF3D2> i commented out the old entry
[15:41] <mcphail> DF3D2: is your interface set to "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:41] <DF3D2> mcphail: yeah
[15:41] <DF3D2> fixed it
[15:41] <DF3D2> with compdoc suggestion
[15:41] <DF3D2> thanks compdoc
[15:41] <compdoc> np
[15:42] <DF3D2> the question still lies why changing network stuff requires a reboot now
[15:42] <DF3D2> it's because im not using network-manager?
[15:43] <compdoc> I tend to reboot
[15:43] <daftykins> i figured you meant server before. server hasn't worked properly on a networking restart for ages
[15:43] <daftykins> yeah, true reboot is the only way to confirm settings anyway
[15:43] <compdoc> I like to make sure my chnages survive a reboot
[15:43] <mcphail> DF3D2: it shouldn't need a reboot. You mentioned above you were using "ifup eth0" but your interface had switched to eth1...
[15:43] <DF3D2> daftykins: I have a server also with the same behavior
[15:43] <DF3D2> mcphail: I had used ifup eth1
[15:43] <DF3D2> i know how to check ifconfig -a :-P
[15:43] <mcphail> ;)
[15:44] <DF3D2> this happened because I changed mobo's
[15:44] <daftykins> not seeing eth0 should've been a *MASSIVE* warning sign
[15:44] <DF3D2> and the udev rule pointed to the old mac address
[15:44] <DF3D2> daftykins: well on my server rig the first of the 2 gigabit nics is called em1
[15:44] <DF3D2> and the other is
[15:44] <DF3D2> p5p1
[15:44] <DF3D2> so .....
[15:45] <daftykins> but we're not talking about that one right now
[15:45] <DF3D2> oh well it's fixed now :-P easy enough
[15:45] <compdoc> DF3D2, btw, with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, you can delete the lines at the bottom that mention your interfaces, and reboot, and the system is supposed to rebuild those lines
[15:45] <DF3D2> compdoc: ahh good info!
[15:46] <DF3D2> I just commented out the old mac addr one
[15:46] <DF3D2> it had already added the new one
[15:46] <compdoc> thats fine too
[15:46] <DF3D2> I should have mentionedi n the beginning I installed a new mobo
[15:46] <DF3D2> :\ my fault
[15:46] <compdoc> once you edit the file manually, it should keep your changes
[15:46] <DF3D2> I just thought as long as /etc/network/interfaces was correct
[15:47] <DF3D2> it would work :-P
[15:47] <compdoc> OSes are complicated beasts
[15:47] <DF3D2> true that
[15:47] <DF3D2> atleast linux you can swap a mobo without reinstall
[15:47] <DF3D2> :-D
[15:47] <Eggs_> DF3D2: some simpler OS's can just use that file, like arch
[15:48] <DF3D2> Eggs_: ahh I see
[15:48] <DF3D2> I have tried to use arch but nothing ever worked right with uefi
[15:48] <DF3D2> too many issues
[15:48] <DF3D2> I have arch on a small atom server in a datacenter tho and it works well
[15:49] <Eggs_> DF3D2: yep its takes a lot of setting up nothing is every that simple, its good for minimal installs of things, basically nothing gets installed out of the box
[15:49] <CoC_towlie> DF3D2, Arch is way simpler then ubuntu
[15:49] <DF3D2> Eggs_: right I installed arch from scratch the other day on my new ZFS nas, and it worked with uefi and then i rebooted it and it wouldn't boot anymore
[15:49] <compdoc> ubuntu is much better, tho :)
[15:49] <DF3D2> it was working, then just stopped for no reason, so i gave up on it
[15:49] <Eggs_> DF3D2: was that with ZFS as the root partition?
[15:49] <DF3D2> so now i have ubuntu-server on it
[15:50] <CoC_towlie> only thing is that things might break since on rolling release
[15:50] <DF3D2> Eggs_: No, ext4 for root, 18TB of storage in a raidz2
[15:50] <Eggs_> DF3D2: strange, you got zfs working on ubuntuserver now? thats what im running on
[15:50] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah
[15:50] <DF3D2> it's very easy there is a repo
[15:50] <DF3D2> and it's just a kernel module
[15:50] <DF3D2> I have a 6x3TB zfs raidz2
[15:51] <mcphail> DF3D2: aah - is there a proper kernel module now rather than a FUSE system?
[15:51] <Eggs_> DF3D2: Yeah its awesome, ive got a similar setup but ive got 2 raidz1,
[15:51] <DF3D2> intel SB1200BTS server board, 16gb ecc ram, Xeon e3 1220 V1 :-D
[15:51] <DF3D2> mcphail: has been for some time, it's legit!
[15:51] <DF3D2> been using it for several years on ubuntu
[15:52] <mcphail> DF3D2: might need to give it a try. Playing with btrfs for the time being
[15:52] <DF3D2> I havent used bt rfs but i'd never stop using zfs
[15:52] <Eggs_> DF3D2: much more powerful than mine, ive just got a dualcore i3 and 8gb of ram, seems to work ok, ram gets capped out though with 20tb of storage
[15:52] <DF3D2> EPIC epic epic
[15:52] <DF3D2> Eggs_: nice I plan on adding 8x3tb more eventually
[15:52] <Eggs_> mcphail: ZFS on linux is much more mature than btrfs, hopefully you will find it less error prone
[15:52] <DF3D2> need to buy 2 more adaptec 1430 AAR SA cards first tho
[15:53] <Eggs_> DF3D2: im at the max capacity for my mobo, i need to get a LSI JBOD card or something similar if i want to upgrade
[15:53] <mcphail> Eggs_: i've always worried the Linux implementation would be buggy compared to Solaris. I remember the BSD version used to crumble quite easily
[15:53] <kraftb> Ok. Finally found the issue. The kernel options "nomdmonddf nomdmonisw" from /etc/default/grub.d/dmraid2mdadm.cfg where desturbing my now-mdadm raid1
[15:53] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah I have 6 mobo ports, and 1x Adaptec 1430 AAR SA or something raid/JBOD card and I just use it for JBOD obviously. the guy I bought the ram/mobo/cpu just gave me as well as a nice 2U case just cause.
[15:54] <DF3D2> the adaptec card works great
[15:54] <kraftb> It was dmraid before (just for testing - I had problems with dmraid back in '04) since then I always used mdadm (like before '04 :)
[15:54] <DF3D2> has 4 ports
[15:54] <kraftb> but it seems dmraid still is somewhat buggy
[15:54] <kraftb> On tuesday I just lost a whole directory without ever seeing it again
[15:54] <DF3D2> kraftb: zfs man
[15:54] <DF3D2> u can't beat it
[15:54] <Eggs_> mcphail: ive been running it for over a year now and ive had zero errors, its great because the info about the disks is stored across multiple sectors on all disks so it never corrupts
[15:55] <kraftb> I use xfs since about 10 years. When I switched from gentoo to back to ubuntu I stayed with xfs
[15:55] <kraftb> as it is developed by SGI and quite stable
[15:55] <Eggs_> DF3D2: I upgraded from a 6port mobo to an 8port as it was cheaper than the LSI card lol
[15:55] <kraftb> whats zfs good for?
[15:56] <DF3D2> Eggs_: the guy who sold me my server shit and gave me the adaptec card said he doesn't like LSI
[15:56] <Eggs_> kraftb: its great for cheap disks, its got a hash table that checks the data vs bitrot
[15:56] <DF3D2> good news is a matching adaptec card is $15 on ebay
[15:56] <DF3D2> lol
[15:56] <DF3D2>  so I can add more ports for cheap
[15:56] <daftykins> !language
[15:56] <kraftb> ok ... this wasn't the issue
[15:56] <Eggs_> DF3D2: awesome, apartently you have to flash it with some jbod firmware for zfs as you dont want the raid card trying to do anything inteligent
[15:57] <kraftb> still "Incrementally starting RAID arrays ...."
[15:57] <kraftb> message loops
[15:57] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah my adaptec is cool it just works in JBOD unless u tell it otherwise
[15:57] <DF3D2> really happy with it
[16:01] <Eggs_> DF3D2: awesome, got a model number for that i may have to look into it
[16:03] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah it's adaptec http://www.ebay.com/itm/321604677769?_trksid=p2060778.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[16:03] <mcphail> Is anyone having much joy running nouveau as their nvidia driver whilst using HDMI? The phoronix benchmarks suggest the driver is getting quite powerful but I can't even get the machine to boot with it
[16:03] <DF3D2> I am bidding on that one, to have a second one on hand incase I want to add more drives soon
[16:03] <DF3D2> can buy one for like $17 or so also
[16:04] <Eggs_> DF3D2: Wow thats cheap, thanks
[16:06] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah i should just buy one outright for the $17 or whatever they are on ebay... I never win auctions lol
[16:06] <vircode> anyone help?
[16:07] <carlgo11> .ask vircode@@
[16:07] <carlgo11> oh lol sorry
[16:07]  * carlgo11 is damaged from too many support channels
[16:08] <DF3D2> http://i.imgur.com/zowZH9c.jpg
[16:08] <DF3D2> dat storage
[16:10] <Eggs_> DF3D2: dont they get super hot sitting ontop of each other?, i used to run mine in a 2u server but i swapped to a full tower
[16:10] <DF3D2> Eggs_: no, those caddies hold 3 drives and I have two in each one with a space in the middle
[16:10] <DF3D2> for total of 6x3tb
[16:11] <DF3D2> I also keep the lid off for airflow
[16:15] <__raven> 14.04lts server with cli only: no effect on free space when deleting files. issue from encrypted home folder which is not being updated? any ideas?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !server | __raven, ask the experts =
[16:17] <surs> q
[16:23] <mimozir> service tor start
[16:23] <ST34LTH> this is random but i'm having a brain fart. after doing ssh-copy-id what key do I delete from originating server? pub or priv
[16:28] <__raven> cfhowlett: read again: encrypted home is no server specific function
[16:31] <Yoko|Work> Anyone here familiar with Remmina RDP
[16:32] <bubbasaures> !ask | Yoko|Work
[16:32] <Yoko|Work> whoops, sorry :/
[16:32] <Bazyl> hi, when i change to Thunderbird window launchpad and and top tool bar items disapear, i run ununtu 14.04LTS
[16:33] <Bazyl> how to fix it ?
[16:34] <OerHeks> Bazyl, can you make a sreenshot what you miss ?
[16:35] <OerHeks> *screenshot
[16:35] <Bazyl> ofc but how can i show it to you ?
[16:35] <nithin> Hi
[16:36] <nithin> I need assistance in installing  ubuntu on sony vaio laptop
[16:36] <OerHeks> Bazyl, paste it on http://imgur.com/
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Bazyl, paste it up!  imagechilli imgur etc ...
[16:36] <abuz_> hello
[16:36] <daftykins> nithin: explain to the channel what you've tried and where you got stuck
[16:36] <Yoko|Work> Good day!
[16:36] <bubbasaures> !screenshot | Bazyl
[16:37] <nithin> I have windows 7 installed on the same computer
[16:37] <Yoko|Work> Usuing Xubuntu 12.04 LTS with Remmina Remote Desktop Connect, is it possible to keep the top menu/system bar visible while in fullscreen during the Remote Desktop session?
[16:37] <nithin> but the ubuntu installation media is not detecting the operating system
[16:37] <nithin> I have data on the hard disk also.
[16:38] <nithin> When I tried to do the manual partition the whole disk is detected as free space
[16:38] <abuz_> I.ve just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, but I've a problem with boot. If I boot normally when the xbuntu splash request passphrase for luks everything I type on keyboard is visible end on top left angle of screen and it is not passed to cryptsetup, so I cant continue boot. instead if I boot in recovery mode and from it to "remume normal" everythings work. what can I see to solve this issue?
[16:38] <nithin> So I could not continue
[16:39] <daftykins> nithin: possibly you're booting EFI when you need to be booting legacy, or vice versa. have you read the EFI help page?
[16:39] <daftykins> !uefi
[16:39] <nithin> No.. I haven't read the EFI page.. I don't know what it is..
[16:41] <nithin> But I could see it somewhere in the bios page
[16:41] <nithin> do we have any document for that?
[16:42] <jhutchins> I tyhought the installer used a GPT/EFI compatible version of parted?
[16:42] <Bazyl> 0erheks, here you go http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[16:42] <morsnowski> this maybe a dense question but has the live dvd full language support, for example os & office in spanish or german?
[16:43] <Zteam> Hello!
[16:44] <Zteam> I need some help with my fstab entry, the last line I added makes Ubuntu refusing to boot
[16:44] <Bazyl> OerHeks, here you go http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[16:45] <Eggs_> ST34LTH: you can delete the public key
[16:46] <Zteam> Anybody can help me troubleshoot my fstab please_ http://pastebin.com/hYtSezGV
[16:47] <Zteam> _ >/(
[16:47] <OerHeks> Bazyl, those menu items go to top panel, when thunderbird is maximized
[16:48] <OerHeks> Bazyl, what you mean with window launchpad, i don't know
[16:49] <kraftb> Found the solution for my problem: I had to manually add "dm-mod" to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[16:50] <kraftb> It just bugged me that there isn't really a "dm-mod.ko" module and I assumed dm_ modules were for dmraid
[16:50] <kraftb> instead they are necessary for LVM
[16:50] <Bazyl> OerHeks, now i am on xchat and i can see and click on launchpad and also i can see the top tool bar with time, sound volume adjustment and so on... when i change (ctrl+tab) to Thunderbird it's all gone...
[16:50] <Eggs_> Zteam: have you tried to do it with pass increased to 1 or 2?
[16:50] <OerHeks> Bazyl, that changing to the top panel is called global-menu, you can disable that
[16:51] <Eggs_> Zteam: or maybe with the disk label as /dev/sdb1 just to test that
[16:51] <Zteam> Eggs_, yes I have tried with both
[16:52] <Bazyl> OerHeks, ok so items on my global-menu disapear
[16:52] <Bazyl> OerHeks, the only way to leave Thunderbird window is ctrl+tab...
[16:52] <OerHeks> Bazyl, see https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-the-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[16:52] <OerHeks> works for 14.04 too, afaik
[16:52] <Eggs_> Zteam: what is the error message?
[16:53] <Zteam> Eggs_, Well I can test that, but that wouldnt be a solution I cloned my old failing harddrive, and now Ubuntu is refusing to starting up without it, If I don't use the uuid Ubuntu does confuse the 2 drives
[16:54] <Zteam> Eggs_, it'just telling me it tries to start plymouth
[16:54] <Zteam> Eggs_, uncommenting that line solves the issue thought.
[16:55] <Zteam> Eggs_, commenting not uncommenting I mean
[16:56] <Eggs_> Zteam: and can you mount the disk with mount  once your in?
[16:56] <Zteam> Eggs_, I assue I screwed up the fstab syntax somehow, but I don't know
[16:57] <Eggs_> Zteam: which line do you comment out to make it work?
[16:58] <AndroUser6738638> What is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[16:59] <Zteam> Eggs_, yes :-) Please notice the system won't boot without the faling harddrive (the old one) it does however works if I have the new drive installed as well (those are both (USB-drives)
[16:59] <Zteam> Eggs_, this one UUID=12316065-d647-4fbf-b94e-827233bff900 /media/zteam/Master ext4 rw,user,exec 0       0
[17:01] <Eggs_> Zteam: Zteam looks fine to be, is the folder empty?
[17:04] <Zteam> Eggs_, nope, /media/zteam/Master is not empty, as I said before both the cloned (new drive) and the failing one (old one) works for making the system happy again
[17:04] <Zteam> Eggs_, they did have the same uuid before as well, due to ddrescue
[17:06] <Bazyl> OerHeks, it didn't help...
[17:07] <Zteam> Bazyl, window buttons is gone?
[17:08] <Bazyl> Zteam, yes
[17:08] <Bazyl> Zteam, look here http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[17:09] <Zteam> Bazyl, yes I see, try to switch to a guest account just to see what happens
[17:10] <Zteam> Bazyl, if window buttons is back there then you know the problem is related to your homefolder
[17:11] <Bazyl> Zteam,  guest account ? i don't have one...
[17:11] <Bazyl> Zteam,  or i don't know how to use it ...
[17:11] <nomadist> hi!
[17:11] <Zteam> Bazyl, there is a built-in guest account, from at least Ubuntu 12.04 as default
[17:12] <nomadist> does anyone have experience with any simple screen recording sfotware that works with gnome?
[17:12] <Zteam> Bazyl try to press CTRL-ALT-DEL at the same time, it should offer you to logout or switch user
[17:13] <Zteam> Eggs_, are u still there?
[17:13] <Zteam> nomadist, try gtkrecord-my-desktop
[17:13] <Bazyl> Zteam,  i am on ubuntu 14.04LTS with unity 7.2.3...
[17:13] <IbsinRG> Hello. I have my Software Centre stuck on 'Applying Changes' for Dropbox. It won't stop, and it's just sitting there like that right now. No idea how to fix it, or get it to finish...
[17:14] <Zteam> Bazyl, then u should have the guest account
[17:14] <nomadist> Zteam, cpu activity goes to 96%
[17:15] <nomadist> with that software
[17:15] <nomadist> Kazaam was good but there is no way to stop it
[17:15] <Bazyl> Zteam,  in system settings > user accounts i have only mine account...
[17:15] <nomadist> has anyone used kazaam with gnome?
[17:15] <Bazyl> Zteam,  should i add one ?
[17:16] <Oros108> hello! do anyone know any freeware android-root freeware like "SuperOneClock"
[17:16] <squinty> Bazyl:  to access the guest account, log off.  there should be a "Guest Account" phrase located under the field where the password is normally typed in
[17:17] <Pici> Oros108: Does this have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[17:17] <reisio> Oros108: #android
[17:18] <Bazyl> squinty, i'm pretty sure i don't have an option to log in as guest... but i'll check again... brb
[17:18] <Eggs_> Zteam: Im here, im not sure on a fix really
[17:18] <Oros108> Pici i thing ubuntu is more "community" so ty, ty reisio!!
[17:18] <squinty> Bazyl:  fwiw, personall I add an extra "Admin" account just in case I can not log on using my regular account
[17:19] <Zteam> Bazyl, otherwise you can just try open the file manager and press CTRL+H these will view all your user-profile settings highlight them and right-click and select move to Trash folder caution be sure to unmark .Thunderbird and .mozilla
[17:19] <nomadist> ah.. i just realized there is a  default screen recorder in ubuntu
[17:19] <nomadist> gnome, ctrl shift alt r
[17:19] <nomadist> and it works like a charm
[17:20] <Zteam> Bayl, this will reset all your config files, to default, which means you will loose every setting but .mozilla and .thunderbird
[17:21] <Yoko|Work> How to I remove 404 links when running apt-get update?
[17:21] <Zteam> Eggs_, okey :-)
[17:22] <squinty> Yoko|Work:  try changing mirrors and/or disable/remove ppa's via the Software and Updates manager is a couple of things to check out.
[17:23] <mmiller13_> Does anyone know why my nm-applet no-longer appears in my taskbar... I shutdown my wlan0 using ifconfig and It no longer appears after ifconfig wlan0 up command...
[17:24] <daftykins> mmiller13_: restart network manager, you probably confused it
[17:29] <mmiller13_> NetworkManager gave me a error message stating that there's not [connectivity] option in my Key file... I added this option my my config file then it gave me an error message stating I needed to add and interval option... I added an interval option of 300 nm now launched without an error, but that still doesn't help
[17:41] <g0twig> Hey
[17:41] <daftykins> hi
[17:41] <Guest16023> what is latest nvidia driver for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:41] <g0twig> My friend wants to use Ubuntu with his gt 750m and intel hd graphics , he needs bumblebee right?
[17:41] <daftykins> Guest16023: 331 possibly, in rpeos
[17:41] <g0twig> Which is the most recent nvidia version in ubuntu, 331?
[17:41] <daftykins> *repos
[17:41] <g0twig> ah
[17:42] <g0twig> k
[17:42] <daftykins> g0twig: no, nvidia-prime replaced bumblebee... try that first.
[17:42] <g0twig> daftykins: just nvidia-prime and than
[17:42] <daftykins> !hybrid
[17:42] <daftykins> gah
[17:42] <g0twig> daftykins: nvidia-prime and what else
[17:42] <g0twig> it didnt work for him
[17:42] <daftykins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[17:42] <g0twig> we installed nvidia and nvidia-prime from xorg edgers ppa
[17:43] <daftykins> ok, well i didn't say "use xorg edgers PPA" :)
[17:43] <daftykins> !ppa
[17:43] <g0twig> lightdm? no gdm??
[17:43] <daftykins> lightdm replaced gdm years ago
[17:43] <g0twig> lol its not a replacement
[17:43] <g0twig> if people use gnome shell
[17:43] <g0twig> does it not work with gdm or what
[17:43] <daftykins> i'm talking about in the default config, thus yes, in ubuntu it replaced it :)
[17:43] <g0twig> he runs gdm
[17:43] <DJones> g0twig: I use a laptop with Nvidia GT750M using nvidia-prime with no issues
[17:44] <daftykins> !pm
[17:44] <g0twig> DJones: which packages did you install
[17:44] <DJones> g0twig: nvidia-prime
[17:44] <g0twig> DJones: and
[17:45] <DJones> g0twig: Thats it
[17:45] <g0twig> DJones: no normal nvidia must be installed too
[17:45] <g0twig> at least dependency
[17:45] <DJones> g0twig: Must have been installed as part of the dependancies then
[17:46] <daftykins> g0twig: revert the setup to default and install it as described in the link earlier, then we can try and debug it.
[17:46] <daftykins> DJones: i've seen many reports of simply apt-get'ing "nvidia-prime" not picking a driver, so i think many get tripped up by this :(
[17:47] <DJones> daftykins: Thats not something I found with a fresh install of 14.10, just straight nvidia-prime has dealt with everything
[17:47] <daftykins> we're talking 14.04 here sir
[17:47] <DJones> 14.04 & 14.10 for me
[17:47] <daftykins> ah no, actually another user declared that
[17:47] <g0twig> daftykins: also remove gdm??
[17:48] <daftykins> g0twig: depends how your friend setup gnome3, i'm not really into assisting with non-default setups
[17:48] <g0twig> daftykins: its normal ubuntu
[17:49] <daftykins> right, but it's been modified
[17:49] <daftykins> = uninterested :)
[17:52] <Bazyl> Zteam, i did relog to my guest and there Thunderbird works fine...
[17:54] <Bazyl> Zteam, btw you wrote me to open file manager and move some files to trash... can you explain how can i see directories that's name starts with . (dot) in file manger ?
[17:56] <squinty> Bazyl:  ctrl H in nautilus   or View > show hidden files
[17:57] <fdassdff> Anyone know what program handles screen locking?
[17:57] <squinty> Bazyl:  fwiw, just did a dist-upgrade and new TB was offered for upgrading
[17:57] <squinty> lightlocker iirc
[17:57] <mkk> Anyone knows what filesystem does Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) use?
[17:57] <daftykins> mkk: ext4...
[17:57] <mkk> thanks
[17:58] <Bazyl> squinty, thx i'll try
[18:02] <fdassdff> I think it's lightdm that does screen locking right?
[18:04] <redmimic> I'm looking to theme my login, not just change the background i believe im on gnome3 (running ubuntu 14.04) is login theming removed from gnome3 or is there a way to use a gdm login theme still?
[18:17] <g0twig> Hi, the guy with the gt 750m problem: when I run nvidia-settings it sazs PRIME: is it supported? no
[18:17] <Guma> I have img file that I need to autoresize on first boot (sd card). I can write a script to do this with fdisk/resizefs. But I am not sure where to hook it before root partition is mounted. The idea here is that root should be autoresized to take advantage of all space available on sd card. Users can have different sd card sizes. Any ideas?
[18:17] <khaya> i have ubuntu 14.04 laptop and a windows 7 in desktop connected to a router, and i want to clone the windows 7 HD to ubuntu laptop. how can i do that using clone zilla? same network group PCs
[18:17] <g0twig> i installed nvidia-313 and nvidia-prime but the graphic dont work
[18:23] <AlexQ> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 and I am having a problem with my graphics (video), which is apparent while playing videos or displaying quickly changing graphics - looks like problem with display sync - for a fraction of a second, part of the screen is displaying the new frame, while part is still displaying the previous, apparently.
[18:23] <AlexQ> The division line is horizontal and usually somewhere in the middle of the display
[18:24] <mkk> What command does virtual file system use for deleting file? (Can't find anywhere.) Unlink, remove, delete...?
[18:24] <daftykins> AlexQ: that's called tearing. usually due to a lack of vsync, what's your graphics hardware and driver?
[18:25] <AlexQ> daftykins: Intel inbuilt, GMA 950 or sth like that. What's the best way to check that + the driver?
[18:25] <drk> hi guys. Does anyone have or had issues with no sound after suspend on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:25] <daftykins> AlexQ: hmm sounds pretty old. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:26] <AlexQ> daftykins: It's an old laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9370755/
[18:27] <AlexQ> daftykins: Oh, sorry. It's Ubuntu 14.04.1
[18:28] <AlexQ> daftykins: I've been using Ubuntu on the very same laptop a couple of years ago and there was no tearing.
[18:28] <mkk> What command does virtual file system use for deleting file? (Can't find anywhere.) Unlink, remove, delete...?
[18:29] <compdoc> virtual file system?
[18:30] <drk> but AlexQ, maybe you yoused a few years ago other video comprimation like a divx , and if you're trying to open now 720p or 1080p it'll surely be laggy
[18:30] <drk> used*
[18:30] <jeffrey_f> mkk: explain.  To the system, there should be no difference in virtual or physical file system.  Once mounted, you can do normal commands.  rm is delete.  However, use caution as there is no recovery from rm command
[18:30] <daftykins> AlexQ: yes, times change... older hardware gets less focussed on... the usual
[18:30] <AlexQ> drk: As I am saying, it's not a video playback problem. It's an graphics display problem.
[18:33] <drk> AlexQ : i don't know honestly what could be the problem, maybe try to search the forums for answers
[18:33] <drk> unlike you, i have an issue with sound after suspend on 14.04
[18:33] <AlexQ> daftykins: [    24.914] (**) intel(0): "Tear free" disabled
[18:33] <AlexQ> daftykins: Something like that in the log you asked me to send
[18:34] <AlexQ> line 152
[18:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: yeah i've spotted that one before
[18:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: ignore the version but check out - http://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[18:35] <primo> I'm having issues doing a command line install. The guide says use an alternative image and select "command line install" but that's not an option. Anyone have a link?
[18:35] <daftykins> primo: mini.iso provides a network textmode installer, is that sufficient?
[18:36] <_abc_> Say, the LTS 10.04 based linuxcnc live disk, is it safe to update packages from LTS 10.04 when installing that to hdd and then setting up the system for normal use? Some packages in it are ancient.
[18:36] <primo> daftykins: from what I read, mini.iso image doesn't support uefi
[18:37] <daftykins> _abc_: "linuxcnc" ? that doesn't sound like an officially supported derivative
[18:37] <_abc_> UEFI refers to uefi boot only or is it relevant also after the system runs?
[18:37] <daftykins> primo: i would doubt that, i've done an install with it
[18:37] <AlexQ> daftykins: There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Should I create it?
[18:37] <_abc_> daftykins: Well I am asking anyway. It is 10.04 LTS with realtime kernel and linuxcnc/emc2 installed
[18:37] <daftykins> AlexQ: yep
[18:37] <daftykins> AlexQ: that's the only way to set those parameters
[18:38] <daftykins> _abc_: 10.04 is only supported on server until April, then it's dead...
[18:38] <AlexQ> seems like it might work. Thanks! Rebooting
[18:39] <_abc_> daftykins: I am aware. It seems they came out with a Debian based one too now
[18:39] <primo> _abc_: If i booted in legacy mode for the install and switched back to uefi, wouldn't the installer then install the bootloader in that mode?
[18:40] <_abc_> We'll see. Anyway, would you say it's safe(ish) to use normal update procedures for 10.04 from that system? Worst thing that can happen is, I'll reinstall it. So no real risk, this is a toy machine connected to a cnc router I made
[18:40] <daftykins> primo: installs can be converted, but i don't understand why you would intentionally do it wrong to begin with
[18:40] <daftykins> !efi | primo
[18:40] <_abc_> primo: I don't know, really. UEFI is too new for certitudes like that.
[18:40] <sonetea> primo: it depends on how it partitioned
[18:40] <daftykins> _abc_: sorry, non-ubuntu = off topic here.
[18:40] <sonetea> it's*
[18:40] <_abc_> 10.04 is ubuntu right?
[18:41] <sotiredofthesest> So does anyone know what package/binary is responsible for locking the screen?  Is it lightdm?
[18:41] <SchrodingersScat> not if it's 10.04 linuxcnc
[18:41] <primo> daftykins: did you do it in legacy mode? I mean, did you install with mini.iso setup to boot using the efi partition?
[18:41] <_abc_> So I want to try. Pretend it's plain 10.04 and update packages as needed. The only thing which is sure to break linuxcnc is kernel update. So I won't do that.
[18:41] <daftykins> primo: why don't you grab it, throw it on a flash drive, boot in EFI mode and see? :)
[18:42] <sonetea> if it's automatically installing, it's going to be using mbr
[18:42] <_abc_> Is there an ubuntu not based on gnome desktop/compiz please?
[18:42] <Almis90> Guys I want to delete a file exactly 30 minutes afters its creation (cron job) what package you suggest me to use for that?
[18:43] <_abc_> Almis90: atd
[18:43] <Almis90> but I dont want to run cron every second
[18:43] <SchrodingersScat> !flavors | _abc_ a few
[18:43] <IbsinRG> Could someone please tell me the IRC channel for elementary? I can't seem to access it via the net...
[18:43] <daftykins> !elementary
[18:43] <daftykins> IbsinRG: ^
[18:44] <Almis90> abc thank you I will check it
[18:44] <IbsinRG> Thanks
[18:44] <_abc_> You don't. You do echo "rm -f /some/file"|at "now + 30min"
[18:44] <Chuck_Norris> IbsinRG: /j # elementaryos
[18:44] <Almis90> abc but I must run this script every second right?
[18:45] <_abc_> no, it queues the job and crond / atd handles it
[18:45] <primo> I might have to just try the mini.iso. I'm just frustrated the recently updated, official howto isn't accurate and I've spent so much time on it when i don't have the time for all this trial and error. I have a presentation for work in the am :/
[18:45] <_abc_> read the atd manpage
[18:45] <Almis90> abc ok
[18:45] <_abc_> Almis90: time resolution is 60 seconds
[18:46] <daftykins> primo: how is it that the docs are responsible for your delays?
[18:46] <daftykins> primo: by that, i mean is something wrong somewhere?
[18:47] <AlexQ> daftykins: Seems to be solved! Thank you
[18:48] <_abc_> Is ubuntu entirely systemd controlled now?
[18:48] <daftykins> AlexQ: excellent, do you happen to have an example link or video that exhibits the tearing? i have an old system with similar hardware on the shelf i'd like to test
[18:49] <AlexQ> daftykins: Eem, it was visible on just any video that had image changing quickly enough, especially on 'panoraming' scenes
[18:49] <primo> daftykins: it says when you boot that command line install is a presented option. That is inaccurate. Also, the docs on it are poorly organized on this topic compared to a couple other distros. Guess i just expected more from a noob-friendly distro
[18:49] <AlexQ> panning maybe* is the correct word
[18:50] <daftykins> AlexQ: ah ok panning shots in video, roger that
[18:50] <Almis90> abc yeah its exactly what I needed but is it okay to have hundreds such watchers?
[18:50] <_abc_> Almis90: It's probably okay.
[18:50] <AlexQ> daftykins: No matter what the resolution of the video was.
[18:50] <primo> The problem is my fault ultimately. I shouldn't be messing around when I knew i needed my computer functional
[18:50] <AlexQ> Btw. that laptop is capable of 720p and 1080p playback. Actually it's much better on Xubuntu with all default codecs and drivers, than on Windows 8.1 (some problems with renderer) or Windows 7 (no problems with renderer, but occasional stutter/frame rate issues)
[18:51] <daftykins> AlexQ: what's the processor?
[18:51] <chachan> hi, can I use openvpn client to connect a server through a cisco vpn?
[18:51] <AlexQ> daftykins: Some dual core 1.3GHz Pentium, CULV or sth (low voltage)
[18:52] <FreewheelinFrank> hi i want to update i2p, can i simply use console command?
[18:52] <wildwind> chachan: no, they are incompatible. Cisco has free native linux client AFAIK.
[18:53] <AlexQ> daftykins: That's an Acer 1825PTz, unfortunately with no touch panel as it's been broken.
[18:53] <chachan> wildwind: ok, thanks
[18:54] <AlexQ> daftykins: I am dual-booting with Windows 8.1 and sharing a NTFS partition between these systems. Is there any way to unmount it in Windows without the need of making a full shutdown? I've been trying to use some kind of unmounting commands, but that does not seem to physically close the filesystem as it is when doing full shutdown. Or map that partition as a removable drive instead?
[18:54] <daftykins> AlexQ: mmm pretty antique then :) lol @ running 8.1 on that, oh deary me
[18:55] <mkk> can someone explain to me what file descriptor is? In simple terms please. I have read wiki's article
[18:55] <MandaMae> Hey, can someone ansswer a question for me, I keep getting an error and have no idea how to fix it.
[18:55] <AlexQ> daftykins: Why not - it works :D It was sold with Windows 7
[18:55] <daftykins> MandaMae: not until you ask it!
[18:55] <squinty> sotiredofthesest:  see if light-locker is present on your system.      /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop    as mentioned before, iirc, light-locker is the default lock screen application for Ubuntu
[18:56] <MandaMae> Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.99'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[18:56] <AlexQ> daftykins: I think now I might be having some minor issues with windows rendering when switching apps
[18:56] <daftykins> AlexQ: sorry i don't use desktop so i don't understand all that auto mounting stuff. i'm only used to manual mounts via /etc/fstab - however you can type "mount" by itself in the terminal and see the mountpoint / device name of the NTFS partition and run "sudo umount /dev/sdX#"
[18:57] <sotiredofthesest> thanks squinty
[18:57] <daftykins> MandaMae: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[18:57] <AlexQ> daftykins: I've been refering to umounting that in Windows.
[18:57] <wildwind> AlexQ: are you talking about mounting/unmounting in Windows, or in Ubuntu?
[18:58] <lorenzo_> Hello, I'm trying to get my two USB 3.0 ports on my Laptop to work. Has anybody some advice? My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255358
[18:58] <daftykins> AlexQ: oh you want it gone in Windows? just remove the drive letter allocation from diskmgmt.msc
[18:58] <AlexQ> wildwind: Windows.
[18:58] <jazzzu> hi, im trying to set up postfix to forward email for a couple of (2 for now) websites. Am i correct in my understanding that i should first configure a 'canonical domain' for the whole machine (a vps) and then add virtual alias domains for the different websites?
[18:58] <jazzzu> Im kind of new to running ubuntu server and servers in general so im just looking to see if im going in the right direction :P
[18:58] <MandaMae> Daftykins, I'm sorry what?
[18:58] <lorenzo_> Hello, I'm trying to get my two USB 3.0 ports on my Laptop to work. Has anybody some advice? My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255358
[18:58] <daftykins> MandaMae: run that in the terminal please.
[18:58] <AlexQ> daftykins: I don't want to remove it completely, just to be able to unmount and close the filesystem before hibernating/quick shutdown
[18:58] <daftykins> jazzzu: #ubuntu-server
[18:59] <daftykins> AlexQ: why?
[18:59] <MandaMae> Daftykins: "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[18:59] <AlexQ> daftykins: To be able to write to that partition on Ubuntu
[19:00] <wildwind> AlexQ: diskmgmt.msc as daftykins pointed out or mountvol in console. but it's offtopic here.
[19:01] <AlexQ> wildwind: I know it's offtopic; just thought some Ubuntu/Linux users might just have experience with that when dual booting.
[19:01] <jazzzu> daftykins: thanks ill ask it there
[19:01] <daftykins> AlexQ: just shutdown Windows properly
[19:02] <AlexQ> wildwind: I think I tried to use mountvol from console and then doing quit shutdown or hibernation, but there still was that mounting error on Ubuntu.
[19:02] <AlexQ> daftykins: Having to make a full shutdown of Windows is quite irritating. It takes much more time to both shut down and boot up; hibernation is really fast, even on that ancient hardware (Win8.1 wakes up in around 25 secs from power button press, with 10 seconds to reach GRUB, so not bad).
[19:02] <wildwind> AlexQ: I use USB drives in such cases.
[19:03] <AlexQ> Btw. how to enable hibernation in 14.04.1?
[19:04] <AlexQ> I mean, is it feasible/stable?
[19:04] <daftykins> AlexQ: i understand how it works. maybe go chat to ##windows then
[19:04] <daftykins> as mentioned it's OT here
[19:04] <sotiredofthesest> hi squinty, sorry to bother you again, but I don't have light-locker on my system
[19:05] <sotiredofthesest> squinty, how do I tell what's locking the screen then?
[19:05] <wildwind> AlexQ: what do you mean 'quick shutdown'?
[19:05] <AlexQ> wildwind: The default shutdown in Windows 8.1, I think it's called 'hybrid'.
[19:06] <wildwind> AlexQ: Oh yes.
[19:07] <_abc_> Quick shutdown means, do not spend 3 minutes doing nothing obvious then stopping the shutdown process with a modal popup asking me if I really want to shut down, because I really want to, and I was hoping it was shut down already by then.
[19:08] <_abc_> Iow emulating Windows' habit to take its sweet time shutting down is NOT a desirable feature in Ubuntu. It should ask immediately or not at all.
[19:09] <AlexQ> _abc_: My Xubuntu shuts down really quickly. It's almost like a power-off xD When I shut down with Chromium left open (or running in background), it reports that it was not closed properly, so strange.
[19:10] <FreewheelinFrank> hi i want to update i2p, can i simply use console command?
[19:10] <EriC^^> _abc_: i think the quick shutdown is hibernate
[19:10] <EriC^^> _abc_: you don't want that
[19:11] <AlexQ> _abc_: EriC^^: What "quick shutdown" are you guys talking about? And in what OS?
[19:11] <MandaMae> how do I check PolicyKit Authentication Agent in Startup Programs, Sorry to sound stupid but I don't know where to go, I've only used Mint.
[19:12] <EriC^^> AlexQ: win8
[19:13] <wildwind> AlexQ: you coined it 5 min. before :)
[19:14] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Then no, it's not hibernate. I mean hybrid shutdown, the default shutdown in Windows 8 and 8.1. As you can guess, it's kind of a hybrid of normal shutdown and hibernation. It does not preserve state of programs etc.
[19:15] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Apparently, it also does not close filesystems on local drives.
[19:15] <EriC^^> AlexQ: ah ok, yeah it's a sort of hibernate without saving the programs
[19:17] <AlexQ> sort of a partial hibernation.
[19:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:17] <EriC^^> it's satan's shutdown
[19:17] <EriC^^> :P
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: But boots up quickly :P
[19:17] <Azitrex> how much Ram required for installing ubuntu 14.04 amd64 ?
[19:20] <AlexQ> yeah, now hibernation on Xubuntu works and it is satan-quick..
[19:21] <AlexQ> wonder why it's disabled by default, though...
[19:21] <compdoc> you sold your soul to the devil?!
[19:21] <MeerLin> hi there :)
[19:22] <k1l> AlexQ: i bet due to massive issues due to manufacturers not going with the standards.
[19:23] <Vespian> Anyone here familiar with accessing data from a serial device? http://pastebin.com/hQfEuGFE
[19:25] <_abc_> Vespian: baud base is not what you use as speed
[19:25] <_abc_> Vespian: try 19200 and 9600
[19:25] <_abc_> 19200 9600 and 115200 are the most used speeds.
[19:26] <_abc_> Also press ENTER once connected, see if there is a response.
[19:26] <_abc_> Like a prompt.
[19:26] <ralph4100> I have a server running ubuntu 12.04 ... it has python 2.7.5 on it. I'd like to update it to python 2.7.8 or, alternatively, have python 2.7.8 available for virtualenvs to use ... have not been able to identify whether multiple versions of python 2.7 can exist and if so, how?
[19:27] <VelhoP4_> I just noted a deficient translation in the apt-get manual. the portuguese text didnt make sense, so i checked the english manual to understand. How can I report it?
[19:27] <Vespian> _abc_: Still no results.
[19:28] <Vespian> _abc_: Hang on, in dmeg I'm getting all kinds of failure messages. I'll paste bin.
[19:29] <_abc_> technically, if I upgrade any normal user mode package in ubuntu, it should not pull in a new kernel as a dependency, right?
[19:31] <EriC^^> _abc_: if you upgrade it can't pull anything new or remove anything i think
[19:31] <EriC^^> _abc_: unless you run dist-upgrade
[19:31] <_abc_> Okay, thanks.
[19:31] <Vespian> _abc_: http://pastebin.com/0YSvDiDj
[19:32] <_abc_> Vespian: set no handshake in screen
[19:33] <_abc_> Vespian: use something other than screen for this. minicom should work. Select no handshake.
[19:34] <Vespian> _abc_: I don't like the UI of minicom. I'll use cutecom instead.
[19:34] <trism> VelhoP4_: in: man apt-get; ? the manpage is in the apt package, so you could report it in ubuntu with: ubuntu-bug apt; it is probably unchanged from debian though
[19:34] <_abc_> whatever. Select no handshake and try the baud speeds in turn one by one, in each new speed, press enter.
[19:34] <_abc_> See if you get an answer.
[19:34] <_DeLa_> hi there
[19:36] <_DeLa_> this question might seem very naive to most of you, but I'll ask it anyway: is it possible to infect once ubuntu 14.04 based pc with any kind of malware by simply pluging in an infected usb stick and do nothing exept open some png-images files from the usb stick?
[19:37] <VelhoP4_> trism, so the source is debian? i checked other parts of the manual, the portuguese version in very complicated to read. Ive noticed that the english version is nice and simple. The translations seems to be done by google translate...
[19:37] <_abc_> No _DeLa_ , unless the usb stick was manipulated and is now more than a usb stick.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> _DeLa_, or it cam affect any windows installs on your network, or so I've heard
[19:38] <ikeboy> I can't change my grub settings; when i edit them and run sudo update-grub, nothing happens
[19:38] <ikeboy> anyone know why that can happen?
[19:39] <drk> can someone help me with some sound issues
[19:39] <_DeLa_> _abc_: BluesKaj: thanks for your answers
[19:39] <drk> i can't listen to music via headphones
[19:39] <drk> when I plug them out everything works fin
[19:39] <trism> VelhoP4_: well, the source is in ubuntu too, it's just one of those things that should also be fixed in debian and then filter back into ubuntu. I'm sure they would be very happy to get a better translation, and an ubuntu bug would be a good start either way
[19:39] <hikenboot_> ServerSage, do you know how to enable the loggin in ndb...I used the transactionlog = /var/log or transactionlog = /var/log/nbd.log and put it in the generic section but it doesnt seem to create a log
[19:40] <BluesKaj> make sure there's no #in front of the lines you're editing, ikeboy
[19:40] <ikeboy> it's not that
[19:40] <ikeboy> could my grub be installed in the wrong place or something?
[19:40] <_abc_> Vespian: one more thing: there is no guarantee the sim card reader uses a plain ascii protocol.
[19:41] <ikeboy> the file is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9371580/
[19:42] <ikeboy> and grub doesn't start automatically, I need to press enter to start ubuntu
[19:42] <rago> @drk I had the same problem, go the sound settings and increase the volume for your head/ear phone
[19:42] <_DeLa_> my question had the following background: today, I plugged in an usb stick to transfer a few png files whose owner (windows user) later told me that the stick was probably infected...at first I didn't worry of course, but then I remembered that around the time of plugging in the stick there was wine window openend stating some kind of update....wine itself wasn't opened but the window was deifinetly there....so I was quite scared...what happened? maybe
[19:42] <_DeLa_> there was some autorun on the usb stick that resulted in the wine window?
[19:42] <drk> @rago, I did that and nothing changes
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, when you update grub is there any output?
[19:44] <trism> VelhoP4_: you might also want to talk to the people in #ubuntu-doc they might be able to help you out
[19:44] <ikeboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9371627/
[19:44] <VelhoP4_> trism, thanks friend
[19:46] <_abc_> _DeLa_: I don't know what you did, and yes, wine should not run when you stick in a stick. But autorun is not interpreted by ubuntu normally.
[19:46] <ed67543> hi, can I connect to computers (both running mint kde) with hdmi cable(Ineed to transfer large files)? I have a cable that says "hdmi high speed with etherner" ?
[19:46] <ed67543> two*
[19:47] <_abc_> _DeLa_: So it can be a manipulated usb stick too.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, that url is not what asked you about
[19:47] <_abc_> _DeLa_: Manipulated by a virus or by someone
[19:48] <ikeboy> BluesKaj: you asked for output on update-grub, right?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:48] <_DeLa_> _abc_: should scanning my whole system with bitdefender or clamtk put me on the safe side?
[19:48] <ikeboy> what command should i run?
[19:48] <krasnayarsk> If I wanted to create a virtual machine to test a modification of my installation, to see if what I can expect if I actually made the changes to my computer, how would I create the virtual machine? Would I need to make a copy of my installed system to an empty partition? I am new to this so bare with me.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, ok got it now ...exactly what are you trying to edit in grub?
[19:50] <ikeboy> the last line was supposed to make grub start ubuntu without input, but my grub just waits until I press enter
[19:51] <krasnayarsk> Maybe I should ask in Linux.
[19:52] <_abc_> _DeLa_: maybe. Yes you should do that. But I would look in syslog where wine should have left a mark. Scroll or search for about the wall clock time when it happened.
[19:52] <confrey> hi everybody
[19:52] <in_deep_thought> can someone give me help on installing ubuntu? I have the iso file on my usb stick, I put in in my computer, I booted it, I went to the bios, now I need to find the usb stick in the bios. Where Do I look? Under Select boot device, all I See is a virtual device I presume it uses normally. Where can I find physical devices?
[19:53] <backbox> hi
[19:53] <BluesKaj> ikeboy just edit this line and change the number, GRUB_TIMEOUT="10"
[19:53] <_DeLa_> _abc_: will do! thanks so much!
[19:54] <ikeboy> changed it to 1, but why would 1 work and not 10?
[19:54] <confrey> I need some help to manage rub, efi, and windows8; I've just installed 14.04, but I gt a fatal error about installing bootloader, and now I don't know exactly what to do; I started ubuntu manually from grub menu by a usb key, how may I install grub in uefi mode properly?
[19:55] <confrey> in_deep_thought, is your pc uefi or legacy stadard?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, the last last line is the problem,I think, just comment it
[19:55] <_abc_> _DeLa_: Okay my wine does not log in syslog. Also you can search for files changed since then, using find ... -ctime -1 for files changed in the last day
[19:56] <ikeboy> I added the last line yesterday after coming here. It was supposed to fix the problem, but didn't
[19:56] <ikeboy> it wasn't the problem as i had the same problem before I added it also
[19:57] <_DeLa_> _abc_:  could you please write the exact terminal command? ctime -1 doesn't work
[19:58] <_abc_> find ~ -ctime -1 searches changed files in your home dir. Likewise f.ex. ctime -1 /media/somevolume searches that
[19:58] <_abc_> There's also mtime and atime depending on what exactly you think you are looking for
[19:58] <in_deep_thought> confrey: how do I check that/find out?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, how old is your pc?
[20:00] <in_deep_thought> dell precision t5600
[20:00] <in_deep_thought> i think its pretty new
[20:01] <BluesKaj> since 2010?
[20:01] <in_deep_thought> yeah
[20:01] <BluesKaj> then it's probly uefi/bios
[20:02] <in_deep_thought> good to know. so would I find the usb stick under “select boot device” and if so, why is there only 1 virtual drive listed there?
[20:02] <Vespian> _abc_: I give up on this for today. I'll try again on Monday.
[20:03] <_abc_> Vespian: Interesting you brought this up, I also have a sim usb card reader buried somewhere in a box. I'll see what it does.
[20:03] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: where?
[20:03] <_DeLa_> re...args
[20:03] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, in the uefi/bios do you see the boot section , is the hard drive listed or cdrom ?
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> Its under Ctrl Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> there is also PD Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> VD Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> and Properties
[20:05] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, in most uefi/bios it's the second last section moving from left to right
[20:05] <confrey> in_deep_thought, I think you must press a key to access to boot menu at startup, in my lenovo I do that by pressing F12, a menu appears, with window bootloader, USB efi, nd other voices about IPV4 (NO MATTER) at that point I choose USB efi and PC starts from usb stick
[20:05] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: right thats Ctrl Mgmt
[20:06] <in_deep_thought> confrey: I have done that, thats how I entered this BIOS thing I am in. I need to figure out how to put the USB stick as the “boot device”, but all thats currently listed is a VD (virtual drive?)
[20:07] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, guess not , you must have a booot section that lists the real drives on the pc not the virtuals
[20:07] <confrey> in_deep_thought, I can't help you better... sorry, each BIOS might have a different interface,
[20:08] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: I have PD management. That lists 4 Sata drives. But I see no usb drive
[20:08] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, try the legacy mode
[20:09] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: is that something I would change on the BIOS im in? or a different button I press upon starting the comp?
[20:10] <alex_217> wtf
[20:11] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, do you see a listing for uefi mode or some such, choose that and dialog with legacy as another option should open
[20:11] <bubbasaures> alex_217, Do not swear here.
[20:12] <in_deep_thought> ah ha F2 says entering setup. rather than F12 which says preparing one time boot menu
[20:12] <bubbasaures> this is not twitter
[20:12] <BluesKaj> oh lord, I thought you were actaully in the bios
[20:13] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: yep Im a dangus. well this is looking better
[20:13] <alex_217> bubbasaures: Man, where is twitter ?
[20:14] <in_deep_thought> well uhhh not 100% better. the setup screen is like turquoise and flashing giving me a seizure. Not purple and orange and relaxing
[20:16] <in_deep_thought> Is there anything about flashing the usb stick froma  mac onto /dev/disk1 that might “mess up” my version of ubuntu? this one seems not right
[20:16] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try it on another pc
[20:19] <azizLIGHT> how come i cant delet things to a trash can on secondary hard drive? i have it mounted via /etc/fstab using this line: UUID=98E607E0E607BE0E /media/aziz/Backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[20:19] <rjonesx1> what user does cron run as in ubuntu?
[20:20] <azizLIGHT> it asks me to delete them forever
[20:20] <in_deep_thought> ahh man. now I have to figure out how to enter the bios on this other machine. Its not F12 or F2 this time
[20:20] <EriC^^> rjonesx1: i think the user's cron
[20:20] <in_deep_thought> each computer needs to have instructions for entering the bios imprinted onto the case
[20:22] <rjonesx1> I am trying to run a simple php script via cron (php /var/www/html/create.crawl.php). When I run from the command line, it works, when I run from crontab, it fails... weird
[20:23] <_abc_> Use the full path for php and set the environment and run directory right.
[20:23] <_abc_> in the script.
[20:24] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, sometimes it's Fn+F2
[20:25] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj it was F12 but I was pressing F2 as well which was making it not work. In any case  the installer works fine on another computer. I guess its the computer and not the stick thats the issue
[20:25] <Lucax> When I type a command in terminal and nothing happens, what does it mean? it worked or didn't work?
[20:25] <tigerpledd> Hello! Have anything changed with regards to the sound drivers within the last month or so? I've been on a break from ubuntu and when I came back everything (sound from all sources, javascript, flash, sometimes graphics.) stutters. My CPU/GPU is far from maxed, and I've confirmed the issue is there on the fresh install (newly downloaded image) of Xubuntu 14.04 LTS both befopre and after updates.
[20:25] <EriC^^> Lucax: which command?
[20:26] <Lucax> sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/$(lsb_release  -rs)/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:26] <Lucax> that command
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Lucax, which command?
[20:26] <Lucax> I am trying to install Cyphertite
[20:26] <EriC^^> Lucax: check if it was written with cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:27] <in_deep_thought> Lucax: I  think its because you aren’t closing the quotations. It expects more entries before it executes anything? idk just my noob guess
[20:30] <Lucax> eric: what do you mean? how do I check that, I am just a beginner following an installation proceedure even though the command is long it doesn't tell me much
[20:30] <EriC^^> Lucax: if it returned nothing then it probably worked
[20:30] <EriC^^> Lucax: you can check the contents of the file it wrote to with cat
[20:31] <EriC^^> Lucax: you should get the deb https://....  if you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:32] <Guest2710> Anal sex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odsgr2ekg8U
[20:33] <tigerpledd> So nothing new on the sound side? Because everything was fine like a month ago.
[20:34] <Lucax> how to I check the content of that file and how do i get the deb https://....as you mentioned?
[20:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: open a terminal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:35] <Lucax> no such file or directory
[20:35] <Lucax> which is the answer I wanted I guess
[20:35] <Lucax> nothing happened
[20:35] <EriC^^> Lucax: did your command end with ' ?
[20:36] <Lucax> no
[20:36] <EriC^^> hmm
[20:36] <EriC^^> ok try ending the command with '
[20:36] <Lucax> should I end it with ?
[20:36] <Lucax> I mean '
[20:36] <Lucax> ok
[20:37] <Lucax> ok, now it looks like this : >
[20:37] <Lucax> >
[20:37] <Lucax> that's all
[20:38] <EriC^^> ok, press ctrl+c
[20:38] <EriC^^> are you typing sudo sh -c ' ?
[20:38] <Lucax> ok back to normal, what does it mean when > happens?
[20:38] <EriC^^> it's waiting for you to continue the command i think
[20:38] <Lucax> I didn't type sudo sh-c' yet no
[20:39] <EriC^^> ok i meant in the first command, did it end with ' ?
[20:39] <EriC^^> ( not the cat one )
[20:40] <Lucax> here: https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=ubuntu
[20:40] <Lucax> this is the whole installation
[20:40] <EriC^^> it's no problem
[20:41] <Lucax> I don't see any '
[20:41] <chriswardy> wow this is cool
[20:41] <EriC^^> Lucax: there's a ' after sudo sh -c ' and at the end of the command
[20:41] <chriswardy> so what you guys doing ?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> Lucax, so you ran the the other commands on the page as well
[20:42] <Azitrex> i want to install ubuntu server on a PC but when ubuntu ask me which repo i want to select and then if ubuntu can not to connect to it dont continue to next levels ! how can i to ignore this level ? (ubuntu server 13.04 amd64 )
[20:42] <in_deep_thought> has anyone ever seen this before? the installer screen is turqoise and flashing. Not purple like it is on most computers. The display was displaying other things fine, except for when it gets to the installer. Could it be a corrupted iso? Why would it work on other computers and not this one?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Lucax: type ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[20:43] <EriC^^> Lucax: see if conformal.list shows up
[20:43] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then alt+f7
[20:44] <Lucax> yes I ran all the commands blueskaj, but it ends with: unable to locate package and suggest me to do apt-get update but I did it allready
[20:44] <_DeLa_> re
[20:44] <_DeLa_> args....college wifi...
[20:44] <_DeLa_> where is the channel log please?
[20:45] <Lucax> Yes! eric, conformal list shows up
[20:45] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: ummm it stays turquoise, opens a comand prompt I think (hard to tell), and is filling out ****************’s like crazy
[20:45] <Pici> !logs| _DeLa_
[20:45] <MasterPiece> !log
[20:45] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok, does sudo apt-get update work?
[20:45] <MasterPiece> !help
[20:45] <in_deep_thought> the alt+f7 thing just opened a menu, but didn’t change the turqouise’dness
[20:46] <kanzie> I have a USB 4TB that suddenly seems to have lost its partition table and Im trying to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it using parted. Its asking me to provide start and end, how do I know start and end sector?
[20:46] <kanzie> a print shows partition table: gpt, lists the lvm however the field for file system is blank
[20:46] <Lucax> no
[20:46] <Azitrex> !logs| MasterPiece
[20:46] <Lucax> there is an error
[20:46] <_DeLa_> thanks!
[20:46] <EriC^^> Lucax: what's the error?
[20:46] <MasterPiece> Azitrex, :D
[20:46] <Lucax> Failed to fetch https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/14.04/i386/./Packages  HttpError404
[20:47] <Lucax> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:47] <Lucax> that was the error
[20:47] <MasterPiece> Azitrex, I was in trying to tell that to _De-La_ ;)
[20:47] <EriC^^> Lucax: looks like it has an error in the deb format
[20:47] <_DeLa_> errm...
[20:47] <_DeLa_> how do I find ~ -ctime -1 searches changed files in my home dir?
[20:47] <_DeLa_> (newbie-question)
[20:47] <nuke1989> i have a cannon printer connected to my ZTE router with wifi. But ubuntu can see the printer on the network no matter what. nmap shows nothing. router shows the ip of the printer i think. The printer works in access mode however.
[20:48] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, $man find
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/
[20:48] <_DeLa_> MasterPiece: is this a terminal command?
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: it doesn't look like 14.04 is supported
[20:48] <Pici> p/36
[20:48] <Lucax> aha
[20:48] <Lucax> maybe the tarball got it?
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: maybe check if you can use the 12.04 package instead or something
[20:48] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, Yes, the findutils package provide's "find" command and the "man find" command is the man page for that
[20:49] <EriC^^> Lucax: look into it further
[20:49] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, Read the find manual page for checking CTime , Atime, Mtime ;)
[20:51] <munta_> hello!
[20:51] <Lucax> how is it with tarballs, there is an install.sh. isn't there something like cd make or something?
[20:51] <Azitrex> i want to install ubuntu server on a PC but when ubuntu ask me which repo i want to select and then if ubuntu can not to connect to it dont continue to next levels ! how can i to ignore this level ? (ubuntu server 13.04 amd64 )
[20:52] <_DeLa_> MasterPiece: thanks!
[20:52] <daftykins> Lucax: that shell script often includes 'make' :P
[20:52] <daftykins> Lucax: but you shouldn't really be installing software that way if you can help it
[20:52] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, 13.04 id eol
[20:52] <bubbasaures> is*
[20:52] <daftykins> Azitrex: use 14.04.1 server, as it is LTS
[20:53] <BluesKaj> Lucax, there's usually a readme file in the extracted folder giving install instructiomns
[20:53] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Use 12.04 or 14.04, both have 5 years support
[20:53] <BluesKaj> err instructions
[20:54] <EriC^^> Lucax: you could use this to get the 12.04 package, i don't think apt would install any older dependencies, so you could try grabbing the package and see if the dependencies are satisfied, anyways use at your own risk.. sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:55] <BluesKaj> calling it a day ...take care
[20:55] <EriC^^> ( add a ' to the end )
[20:55] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Be sure to check the ubuntu repos before installing binaries or apps, it might be there already.
[20:55] <bubbasaures> installing via tar...etc
[20:55] <spelter> Is anyone familiar with the dd command for creating bootable disks? I am attempting to copy 4 partitions but not an entire drive, will this command take the MBR and the partition table?
[20:56] <Azitrex> bubbasaures, daftykins , i want to installed ubuntu server (amd64) on a PC without internet and network interface but if 14.04 had a level similar to 13.04 that want to connected to a repo and if dont lucky dont continued i dont want to downlaod it , if could i to ignore this level please say me for download and use it thanks :)
[20:56] <EriC^^> spelter: do you want the mbr and partition table?
[20:56] <spelter> yes
[20:56] <EriC^^> is it msdos?
[20:56] <spelter> but not a 2 TB NTFS partition
[20:57] <spelter> its linux
[20:57] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Can you try that again and make sense? ;)
[20:57] <daftykins> Azitrex: err as long as you select minimal it should work from the server ISO. can't confirm that though.
[20:57] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, 13.04 is not supported is all, and unsafe to just use.
[20:57] <spelter> its actually a router OS and swap space, etc
[20:58] <Kurvivor> hello. Is there a good program for getting a list of all the machines on my network?
[20:58] <Kurvivor> preferably one with easy setup
[20:58] <Kurvivor> that won;t ask for root permissions (like opennms does)
[20:58] <Azitrex> ok bubbasaures and daftykins , but i want to know can i to install "14.04 server" without internet or no ?
[20:59] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Yes, not with a mini however.
[20:59] <OerHeks> Azitrex, sure, but you will not have any software to run
[21:00] <daftykins> Azitrex: that is what i just replied to. read it again.
[21:00] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: nmap?
[21:01] <Lucax> to install a tar is it usual to go to the directory where the downloaded files are and execute the commands from there?
[21:01] <jiffe> so here's a question, I see logrotate in cron.daily but not cron.hourly, so by default does that mean the hourly option is useless?
[21:02] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah
[21:02] <OerHeks> Lucax, there is no 'install a tar', just unpacking
[21:02] <Lucax> I see
[21:03] <Vespian> 0erHeks: I think he's talking about './configure', 'make' and 'makefile'.
[21:03] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: if i understand correctly, for Ubuntu i shoul build it from sources, yes?
[21:03] <OerHeks> most tar's have a license and read.me
[21:03] <Azitrex> thanks a lot , let's to download 14.04 server amd64 with a turtle internet speed :)
[21:03] <Lucax> well this has no readme or install? wonder what to do=
[21:03] <bubbasaures> Lucax, What is it?
[21:03] <EriC^^> Lucax: where did you get it from?
[21:04] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: no, sudo apt-get install nmap
[21:04] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: zenmap if you want a gui
[21:04] <Lucax> https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=unix
[21:04] <Lucax> from here
[21:05] <Lucax> it has an install.sh
[21:05] <EriC^^> https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=source
[21:05] <Lucax> oh great, thanks
[21:05] <EriC^^> if i were you i'd take my chances with the 12.04 dep
[21:06] <EriC^^> it was updated on oct 2014 as well
[21:06] <EriC^^> so you're basically doing the same thing except the hard way
[21:06] <Lucax> Yes, whichever way is easiest for beginner to install
[21:06] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: thanks. Will look into it
[21:06] <EriC^^> *i mean .deb
[21:07] <Lucax> Ok, could you walk a baby through?
[21:07] <Vespian> I wish there were a way to execute 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean' without having to type in a password. Ahah
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: you only have to type it once
[21:07] <Vanny> Hello!
[21:07] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you see their wiki link. https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/cyphertite_installation#Ubuntu
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: well, unless it takes more than 15mins or so
[21:07] <bubbasaures> I would try the deb myself Lucax
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: add apt-get to the sudoers list with NOPASSWD
[21:08] <Vanny> How are you all? :)
[21:08] <EriC^^> Vespian:  i think the upgrade isn't necessary after dist-upgrade
[21:09] <ventanitas> hi
[21:09] <manoel> Hello! I m  brazilian
[21:09] <ventanitas> hi i m mexico
[21:09] <Vanny> I just switched to linux (Mint) . I love it lots aside a few issues with battery. Thank you all so much
[21:09] <Vespian> EriC^^: Ah yes. You are right.
[21:09] <ventanitas> what
[21:09] <manoel> como esta
[21:10] <ventanitas> ??
[21:10] <ventanitas> bien y vos
[21:10] <manoel> Tambien
[21:10] <Pici> !es
[21:10] <ventanitas> que bueno
[21:10] <ventanitas> webos
[21:10] <manoel> Mi sistema no consigo pongar en potugues
[21:10] <OerHeks> Vanny, ubuntu didn't make Mint.
[21:11] <Pici> !pt
[21:11] <ventanitas> Puro español
[21:11] <ventanitas> Puro spanish
[21:12] <Vanny> OerHeks: Oh my apologies, the chat on the start page linked here. I hear its based of ubuntu? Anyways. Sorry for the confusion :/
[21:12] <ventanitas> hello whats your name)
[21:12] <ventanitas> ?
[21:12] <retroispresto> i've decided to try upgrading from 8.04.4 to 10.04.4
[21:12] <Pici> ventanitas: #ubuntu is for support with Ubuntu itself, if you are looking to chat, check out #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[21:12] <retroispresto> then see where to go after that
[21:13] <retroispresto> because they are both LTS
[21:13] <ventanitas> No english
[21:13] <retroispresto> and 8.04 and 10.04 are both gnome 2
[21:14] <EriC^^> e
[21:14] <EriC^^> o
[21:14] <EriC^^> l
[21:14] <ventanitas> hello eric
[21:14] <retroispresto> i know they're eol, but i'm still running 8.04.4 lts
[21:15] <retroispresto> a jump straight to a supported version would probably render the system unusable
[21:15] <EriC^^> well i'm rooting for you
[21:15] <EriC^^> fwiw
[21:16] <Kurvivor> nmap seems confusing. oh well. I will try to read the manuals and try to understand how to discover everything in my local network, then
[21:16] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: zenmap is the gui for nmap it's very easy and intuitive
[21:16] <retroispresto> !define intuitive
[21:17] <retroispresto> D:
[21:17] <ventanitas_> no english!!!!
[21:17] <retroispresto> now i have to use effort .-.
[21:17] <ventanitas_> >:D
[21:17] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: well, it is easy in representing results of nmap runs
[21:17] <Kurvivor> but all i get is 'Host seems down'
[21:18] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: you have to add the -Pn or something
[21:18] <EriC^^> to the command it's running
[21:18] <Kurvivor> and i don't really know how to discover other ips in my local network
[21:18] <retroispresto> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:19] <ventanitas> hola
[21:19] <Kurvivor> 100% packat loss
[21:19] <retroispresto> Hint: if your using ping to check your network connection, you can add -c [number of times you want it to ping]
[21:20] <Kurvivor> or rather i should, otherwice it is Ctrl-C time
[21:20] <ventanitas_> hwello   how is there
[21:20] <Kurvivor> could you explain what command should i use to try and determine what IPs are there in my local network?
[21:21] <retroispresto> On Windows if you press CTRL + ALT + DELETE it reboots the computer instantly. It doesn't work after it's in the desktop
[21:21] <retroispresto> Only when booting up~
[21:21] <daftykins> Kurvivor: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.x-y (where x is the first IP and y is the last (e.g. .1-254)
[21:21] <Lucax> i am trying to build from source now
[21:21] <retroispresto> Lucax: what from source?
[21:22] <Lucax> and it says: no such file or directory when there certainly is such a file or directory
[21:22] <Lucax> cyphtertite
[21:22] <ary> k1l
[21:22] <Kurvivor> daftykins: thanks a lot!
[21:22] <ary> k1l, are you there mate?
[21:23] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah?
[21:23] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you read the wiki?
[21:23] <Lucax> I read the wiki
[21:23] <retroispresto> Kurvivor, if you ping you could always open another terminal, type xkill and hit the pinging terminal
[21:23] <Lucax> wiki tells nothing more than what the website does
[21:23] <retroispresto> or if your on a eol version of ubuntu, just click the kill icon in the task bar :P
[21:23] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you see the extra packages to install possibly?
[21:24] <bubbasaures> the wiki is more detailed on the install Lucax
[21:24] <bubbasaures> both the tar or deb
[21:24] <Lucax> yes, that is what I liked, there was just this sudo apt-install and a ginormous list of packages install in a second
[21:25] <retroispresto> Lucax
[21:25] <Lucax> but still it tells me No such file or directory when I execute tar zvxf cyphertite-full-2.0.4.tar.gz in the respective directory
[21:25] <retroispresto> sudo apt-get install [package] --no-install-recommends
[21:25] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you try the deb?
[21:26] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Really there is no 14.04 release, I assume you're running 14.04.
[21:26] <Lucax> no I am confused
[21:26] <Lucax> haha
[21:26] <Lucax> so that means I am trying to build from source something that doesn't exist?
[21:27] <retroispresto> how can i make it default to not install any recommended packages?
[21:28] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Hard to say, as you cannot really give exacting details, and have no real experience it seems in this area, and probably don;t know the cd to folders process.
[21:28] <bubbasaures> That's all okay it just makes it hard to help.
[21:29] <retroispresto> I have a beast Mac o.o
[21:29] <Lucax> yes, maybe I am too eager. back to command line for dummies, haha!
[21:29] <retroispresto> It can compile wine and all of it's dependancies with one -j in about 7 minutes
[21:30] <bubbasaures> Lucax, We want to help, some are just better than others in specific areas and deciphering the users processes. ;)
[21:30] <ary> Hi. Some time ago i had a problem with libreoffice and was sayed that the problem was my video memory. So I bouth a new motherboard because my old mb passed out. But this new motherboard have Radeon 3000 integrated video chipset, and i have installed the fglrx from ubuntu repos, but those drivers are not so fine. I know that this integrated video chipset can be too much better then it is now. I think that the driver is not the proper driver. I
[21:30] <ary> t is using Xorg to render the video. How can I install the proper driver for this card?
[21:31] <daftykins> ary: your card is unsupported by fglrx
[21:31] <daftykins> ary: you have no choices, you're better off buying a simple cheap card to put in that system - the 3000 is not supported on any ubuntu version that is still supported
[21:32] <Lucax> So let's start from scratch, I can build from source, install the tarball: cyphertite-full-2.0.4.tar.gz modified October 30 2014 or I can install from package, which would you recommend?
[21:32] <Lucax> the deb?
[21:32] <daftykins> ary: however if you are the one that came by the other day with this issue... have you booted without nomodeset with the open source 'radeon' driver yet?
[21:33] <EriC^^> Lucax: you need to install a lot of dependencies to get it to work
[21:33] <daftykins> Lucax: 1) repo is best 2) deb's second 3) other methods last - but none are supported by us
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: type sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[21:34] <alexa> hello guys! I could not edit successfully an existing keyboard layout :(
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: then type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cyphertite
[21:34] <Lucax> I install all the dependencies allready, it is super easy, a simple sudo apt-get install LONGLISTOFDepEnDencies..
[21:34] <alexa> it's in /usr/share/X11/xkb/
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok
[21:34] <EriC^^> then
[21:34] <EriC^^> type wget -O bla.deb https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/i386/cyphertite_2.0.4-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i bla.deb
[21:35] <alexa> I edited it, it looks now exactly as it looked like when I was using 12.04 version, except that it doesn't work now :(
[21:35] <ary> daftykins, the fglrx is installed and working. Compiz is working fine too. But some games are too low.
[21:35] <ary> daftykins, I booted with nomodeset and installed fglrx, and then i boot normaly
[21:35] <Lucax> hmm, still it demands even more dependencies but at least it names them, it is not too many
[21:36] <dario_> i have study math to the uni
[21:36] <alexa> anyone, please!
[21:36] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok, install them, then type sudo dpkg -i bla.deb to try again
[21:37] <daftykins> ary: i doubt that, as that device isn't supported. anyway, it's utterly rubbish and you should replace it. you have no driver options at all i'm afraid
[21:37] <ary> daftykins, how can i see what driver the system is using?
[21:38] <daftykins> ary: like i said last time, "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:38] <Lucax> to install these dependencies it is just sudo apt-get install dependencies?
[21:39] <MasterPiece> Where can I find Ubuntu's upstream tracker system ?
[21:39] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah
[21:39] <Lucax> I get these errors on all the dependencies: Package libclog2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:39] <Lucax> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:39] <Lucax> is only available from another source
[21:40] <ary> daftykins, Here it is. Doesn't before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9372832/
[21:40] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: What do you mean by "upstream tracker system"?
[21:40] <EriC^^> Lucax: wget -O libbla.deb https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.10/i386/libclog2_0.6.4-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libbla.deb
[21:41] <daftykins> ary: "Doesn't before" ?
[21:41] <curiousx> ary: lsmod | grep -o radeon | lsmod | grep -o fglrx
[21:41] <daftykins> ary: it's using the open source driver 'radeon' because fglrx does not support it, as mentioned.
[21:41] <Chuck_Norris> ary: lsmod | grep -o radeon | lsmod | grep -o fglrx | tail -n 1 :p
[21:42] <daftykins> ary: you have no options other than to buy a better card to put in
[21:42] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone have experience with dropbox on ubuntu? it's spinning at 100% of one of my cores, when it's apparently doing nothing? although it has been full for a while
[21:42] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, I mean "A system for tracking debian changes, update ubuntu's repositories and build the packages again which is updated to debian"
[21:42] <EriC^^> ary: lshw -C video | grep driver
[21:42] <Lucax> libass, libclog, libexclude3, libshrink3, libxmlsd3 also is there
[21:43] <EriC^^> libass
[21:43] <EriC^^> somehow i think that's not in the ubuntu repos
[21:44] <bekks> !info libass
[21:44] <EriC^^> Lucax: i'd just install the deb in the sources.list.d
[21:44] <EriC^^> bekks: please behave
[21:44] <ary> curiousx, return no value
[21:44] <ary> Chuck_Norris,  configuração: driver=radeon latency=0
[21:45] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, I guess this implemented within launchpad, but I wanna know exactly WHERE of the launchpad if mine guess is true
[21:45] <ary> EriC^^,  configuração: driver=radeon latency=0
[21:45] <Chuck_Norris> ary: lo) that's the output that gave you the EriC^^ commands xD not mine, but... you are using free drivers, not privative, i mean not fglrx
[21:46] <daftykins> i have already stated fglrx does not support that device
[21:47] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, You're setting up a users that will be in a whole probably installing a unsupported release, and update could break it.
[21:47] <bubbasaures> any*
[21:47] <Chuck_Norris> daftykins: i read that he wanted to know what drivers is he using -.-
[21:47] <daftykins> yeah there was a lot more to it than that.
[21:47] <ary> Chuck_Norris, Ok. It is how daftykins sayd. Need a vcard that is compatible with fglrx. But why there is no driver for ubuntu for god's sake?
[21:47] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: i'm going to tell him to remove the ppa once he installs the package
[21:48] <EriC^^> so it doesn't break anything in the future
[21:48] <marioxcc1> Hello.  All is too old here....
[21:49] <dm7freek> Where do I specify persistent static routes/
[21:49] <ary> I have a 7850 here but i Think it is not working. But worth a try.
[21:49] <ary> thank you all
[21:50] <Lucax> how can I install a package depending on dependencies that doesn't exist
[21:50] <Lucax> ?
[21:50] <EriC^^> Lucax: from the sites repo
[21:50] <EriC^^> did you add that sudo sh -c command?
[21:51] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, Installing from source is a outlier in it running in ubuntu from the repos, is all I'm saying, personally I would have steered them away with understand in the risk. ;)
[21:51] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: apt-get is not going to downgrade any packages it finds in the repo, so it will only pull what's necessary for the package to install, there is no risk
[21:52] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: i just said use at your own risk earlier cause it is a bit unorthodox
[21:52] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: Partial answer to your question: https://merges.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: he's basically doing the exact same thing by downloading each dependency from their website and running dpkg -i to install
[21:53] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, I disagree, lets leave it at that.
[21:53] <EriC^^> i can see it upgrading a package that is already there, and maybe breaking something else
[21:54] <nuke1989> anyone can help a bit with a cannon wireless printer? :D
[21:54] <EriC^^> Lucax: just install them one by one
[21:55] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: Also: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/udd-intro.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[21:57] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: Lucax but that would have the same effect, and installing them would break whatever too
[21:57] <Lucax> ok, I don't want to break  anything
[21:57] <Lucax> so should I install each package one by one?
[21:57] <Lucax> is that it?
[21:58] <EriC^^> you could be anal about it
[21:58] <bekks> EriC^^: Please behave.
[21:58] <EriC^^> and try not to update any existing packages you had which are in the dep list
[21:58] <ubuntu35w> out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a theme for ubuntu that is similar to the Xbox  360 "Blades" dashboard?
[21:59] <EriC^^> Lucax: run apt-cache policy <package> to check if it's installed and which version it is
[21:59] <donotpet> Hi, Can someone help me with a kickstart problem (14.4)? I'm trying to use the %package statement, and kickstart seems to be ignoring the %end statement.
[21:59]  * D3vil is away: Got to a point where my brain activity was minimal.
[21:59] <donotpet> "...Dec  4 21:55:22 in-target: E: Unable to locate package %end"
[22:00] <marioxcc> Hello. Is there a forum software that uses database transactions to assure data integrity?.
[22:01] <bekks> marioxcc: Yes, thats called a relational database management system, like postgres, mysql, etc.
[22:01] <marioxcc> bekks: yes, I know, but I'm asking about software that uses the transaction support that those database engines provide.
[22:02] <bekks> marioxcc: Every software that uses mysql, e.g.
[22:02] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, Thanks :) You took me a great answer :)
[22:02] <Lucax> Ok, I think I have to get back to this some other day, I can't think anymore, thanks a lot for all the help, I will have to get back to it later
[22:02] <wyre_> Hi all! :P
[22:02] <dontpet> ?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: You're welcome :)
[22:02] <jwi> hello!
[22:02] <DM__> Hello everyone I am having issue with my apache2 web server keeps crashing: I have three errors over and over again; AH00094 - AH00169 - AH00163
[22:02] <marioxcc> bekks: Not AFAIK. Some MySQL backends don't even offer data integrity against crashes.
[22:02] <wyre_> i have one doubt! :P
[22:03] <wyre_> i'd like install this DE in my Ubuntu!
[22:03] <wyre_> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Fcc3pVRNto/URlNih9O16I/AAAAAAAANj0/HDPImzV8T9A/s1600/gnome-classic_1.png
[22:03] <ventanitas> Hola
[22:03] <wyre_> how could i!? :P
[22:03] <EriC^^> !info cyphertite trusty
[22:03] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:03] <bubbasaures> wyre_, Looks like the gnome fallback desktop
[22:03] <jwi> i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  How do I fix this???????
[22:03] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've broken some package dependencies and I'm not sure how to solve this.
[22:03] <Atlantic777> The following packages have unmet dependencies: gcc-4.8-multilib : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (>= 2.11) but it is not going to be installed libc6-dev-x32 : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.3) but it is not going to be installed
[22:03] <bekks> marioxcc: Because those are two applications.
[22:04] <Atlantic777> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[22:04] <EriC^^> !find cyphertite
[22:04] <bekks> marioxcc: you cant use mysql features without using mysql.
[22:04] <jwi> i've check fstab and theres nothing out of the ordinary there
[22:04] <wyre_> bubbasaures, but... it's some called Gnome Classic (using gnome-shell)
[22:04] <xangua> !nounity | wyre_: you want fallback more
[22:04] <ventanitas> :#
[22:04] <ventanitas> :3
[22:04] <retroispresto> using unetbootin to create the 10.04 usb now
[22:04] <bubbasaures> wyre_, Than install the gnome-shell you will g=have the fallback as well
[22:05] <joshh20> Does Ubuntu use ASLR by default?
[22:05] <joshh20> https://twitter.com/hanno/status/540623675754827776
[22:05] <retroispresto> i'll tell everyone how the upgrade goes
[22:05] <bubbasaures> retroispresto, we don' want to know.
[22:05] <imastupidguest> I'm having a problem installing guest additions in a vbox guest of ubuntu 14.04. I get the error dialog : "unable to insert the virtual optical disk" I see that VBoxGuestAdditions.iso  does exist in /usr/share/virtualbox   and the perms for that file are currently : -rw-r-xr-x
[22:05] <imastupidguest> What do I do?
[22:05] <wyre_> bubbasaures, i have done 'apt-get install gnome-session-fallback' but only appears gnome flashback in gdm! :S
[22:05] <dontpet> does anyone know if/how I can get a ks.cfg to interpret an %end statement for a %packages declaration?
[22:05] <imastupidguest> The owner:group for that file is :    root:root
[22:05] <xangua> wyre_: gnome-panel as the bot says
[22:06] <marioxcc> Hello. Is there a forum software that uses database transactions to assure data integrity?.
[22:06] <retroispresto> wyre_:
[22:06] <trueno> hola
[22:06] <xangua> retroispresto: still trying to upgrade 8.04??
[22:06] <retroispresto> your meant to install gnome-session-flashback
[22:06] <bubbasaures> wyre_, I'm not sure what you mean.
[22:06] <retroispresto> gnome-session-fallback is a translational package
[22:06] <retroispresto> xangua: yup
[22:06] <retroispresto> I fell asleep last night so i couldn't do it x.x
[22:06] <joshh20> Am I allowed to chat in here?
[22:06] <wyre_> retroispresto, yes! :D it's the point! :D
[22:07] <joshh20> I cant tell if my messages are sending
[22:07] <wyre_> retroispresto, what is transitional package?
[22:07] <bubbasaures> joshh20, Chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <trueno> TCP/IP
[22:07] <retroispresto> run apt-cache search gnome-session
[22:07] <joshh20> Ok thanks bubbasaures you answered my question
[22:07] <retroispresto> it will say it in ()'s
[22:08] <majnoon> what is the name for the package for whole unity desktop ?
[22:08] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: try:  chown $USER:$USER /usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[22:08] <dontpet> kickstart? halp?
[22:08] <bubbasaures> joshh20, Thanks for asking. ;)
[22:08] <jwi> i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  How do I fix this???????
[22:08] <EriC^^> majnoon: ubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <wyre_> retroispresto, but... gnome-session-fallback isn't at Trusty repos?
[22:08] <retroispresto> wyre_: that's my point, install gnome-session-flashback
[22:09] <Frank_Leach> Hi everyone...my latest dist update has caused problems with chroumium, anyone else experience anything?
[22:09] <xangua> majnoon: ubuntu-desktop
[22:09] <Frank_Leach> everytime I open YouTube, my screen goes black
[22:09] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: the image you post was gnome-shell idk what version but the bottom panel i could have been a gnome-shell plugin
[22:09] <retroispresto> Frank_Leach: apart from being 3-5 years eol, not really! XD
[22:10] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: but AFAIK now a day there is no such plugin
[22:10] <wyre_> retroispresto, but... whats mean transitional package?
[22:10] <wyre_> Chuck_Norris, AFAIK? xD
[22:10] <retroispresto> wyre_: i dun actually know xD sorry
[22:10] <wyre_> whar u mena? XD
[22:10] <Chuck_Norris> as far as i know -.-
[22:10] <Frank_Leach> well, I did dishromium and try to play a youtube video, it crashest upgrade yesterday, and when I open C
[22:11] <retroispresto> Chuck_Norris, can you break bedrock with your fists?
[22:11] <wyre_> anyone knows what is considered transitional package? XD
[22:11] <Frank_Leach> a load of me bollix
[22:11] <retroispresto> I'm a furry!
[22:11] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: if you like the old gnome, try "mate"
[22:12] <retroispresto> ^ what Chuck_Norris said!
[22:12] <Frank_Leach> lovely..
[22:12] <Frank_Leach> get it inta ya cyntia
[22:12] <jwi> Greetings!  i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  Has anyone encountered this or know how to fix this?
[22:12] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Ok, I did that and was success with sudo chown myRealUserName:myRealUserName   but still does not work when I try to mount the image through vbox. Here is a screenshot of what I'm looking at (maybe it makes more sense to you) : http://imgur.com/0ALgwZy
[22:13] <wyre_> Chuck_Norris, i like that gnome! xD
[22:13] <wyre_> (also ... i have it, and i'm running with Gnome 3.14 xD
[22:14] <MasterPiece> How merges.ubuntu.com aware's to merge some packages?
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> Any of you system admins?
[22:14] <wyre_> (but Debian... not ubuntu, the question is to a friend)
[22:14] <retroispresto> I'll miss some people at my school .-.
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> Thinking of changing careers
[22:14] <retroispresto> system admins?
[22:14] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Why is there a 'Force Unmount" button on that window (as if to say the thing is mounted)?
[22:14] <retroispresto> I'm a student o.o
[22:14] <wyre_> and gnome-session-fallback it's inside trusty repos?
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> student of what
[22:14] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, Can you give me another great answer ? ( Question is above (: )
[22:14] <retroispresto> high school xD
[22:15] <wyre_> (although it be transicional package)
[22:15] <Frank_Leach> ah..
[22:15] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: cick in "Details" but i think if we search for VER_PDM_MEDIA_LOCK we could find something -.-
[22:15] <retroispresto> I was introduced to linux at about 7-8 years old
[22:15] <retroispresto> my first distro was ubuntu o-o
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Details say ...
[22:16] <fowlslegs> Can I install the ISO to usb w/ `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M` after making a single FAT32 partition (/dev/sdXY)?
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Result Code:
[22:16] <imastupidguest> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Component:
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Console
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Interface:
[22:16] <unopaste> imastupidguest you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:16] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: http://blog.plicatibu.com/how-to-solve-cannot-install-guest-addtions-verr_pdm_media_locked/
[22:17] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: there it says: "The solution is simple: unmount the CD/DVD driver"
[22:18] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Thank you sir
[22:19] <Chuck_Norris> np
[22:19] <fowlslegs> Eh that didn't work. Ubuntu is weird. Guess I'll just download Unetbootin.
[22:25] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Just pondering on something. Now if the problems with mounting guest additions is that it's already mounted (and mounting it was my goal) - then there's nothing to do, right? If it's mounted already it's mounted already - or am I missing something here?
[22:25] <imastupidguest> Why would 'you don't have a problem to begin with' be a problem for anyone?
[22:27] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: idk, it was like your virtual cd/dvd drive was already in use or something like, so it doesnt wanted to mount any other thing -.-
[22:27] <Chuck_Norris> it didnt*
[22:28] <retroispresto> so far the upgrade to 10.04.4 is going well
[22:29] <xangua> retroispresto: are you planning to upgrade to 12.04 as well? 10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[22:29] <dontpet> So, PXE/Kickstart: does anyone know why the installer would ignore the %end after a %packages declaration in a kickstart config?
[22:30] <retroispresto> xangua: yes, after 10.04.4 is done. An upgrade straight to 12.04.5 would almost definately brick the system
[22:30] <dontpet> it's driving me mad
[22:30] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: In my Ubuntu guest, it appears that guest additions is mounted. Is there some component of guest additions where it needs to be installed to the guest?
[22:30] <bekks> dontpet: Can you pastebin your entire config?
[22:30] <dontpet> bekks sure.
[22:30] <dontpet> thank you
[22:31]  * retroispresto pets dontpet :3
[22:31] <xangua> retroispresto: as far as I remember you are using a limited resource machine, so why didn't you go with Lubuntu as you were told severald times yesterday? newer Ubuntu releases need more resources
[22:32] <retroispresto> I have medicial conditions, i have patience to sit at a desk for 6 hours watching a progress bar move along
[22:32] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: mmm... i don't remember very well but if it's mounted then check /media... and see what inside that iso, and if there is an installer or something
[22:33] <xangua> retroispresto: a fresh Lubuntu install would be faster that sitting 6 hours to uprade
[22:33] <Jordan_U> retroispresto: While you're watching the progress bar move along, download and burn (or load onto a USB drive) Lubuntu 14.04 so that if things die you have rescue media on hand.
[22:33] <dontpet> here's my ks.cfg
[22:33] <dontpet> http://pastebin.com/XEDL4ikW
[22:34] <retroispresto> i'm on an eee pc 4g surf
[22:34] <retroispresto> it has a 7" screen. it can handle graphics fine
[22:34] <imastupidguest> Ok. Sounds like a good idea. I think I see what's going on. My ubuntu install image was still configured to be what's mounted to /dev/sr0. I thought I had changed that setting; but, since the setting change was made while the guest was running, i tmay note have took.
[22:35] <retroispresto> I can even play battle for wesnoth without audio lag
[22:35] <patsourakos> Hello sorry for this link http://i.imgur.com/trgo9YF.jpg
[22:36] <EvilRoey> Hey all, I have BTRFS subvols mounted for /home, / and others.  How do I reinstall Kubuntu and leave /home as it is, while obliterating / ?
[22:36] <bekks> dontpet: did you try to remove the # ?
[22:36] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: how did you install "GuestAdditions" from ubuntu repos?
[22:36] <dontpet> @bekks  which one?
[22:37] <bekks> dontpet: The one in front of the %end
[22:37] <dontpet> lines 20-21 are my current desperate attempt
[22:37]  * vifino pets dontpet
[22:37] <vifino> ;)
[22:37] <dontpet> @bekks lines 24-28 used to be uncommented
[22:38] <dontpet> (before lines 20-21 existed)
[22:38] <bekks> dontpet: maybe the whitespace after the @ breaks it?
[22:40] <dontpet> hmm... I'll try that if my single line hack fails. thanks for the suggestion!
[22:40] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: There is an option for doing that in the Ubuntu installer (that doesn't require use of subvolumes or separate partitions at all), though 1: I haven't used the feature (or Ubuntu's installer) for years and 2: I have no idea if Ubuntu's installer properly handles existing btrfs subvolumes.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: You should however habe backups of any important data, no matter what you're doing.
[22:41] <retroispresto> my eee pc 4g surf is my intellectual property
[22:42] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  well yes I have backups
[22:43] <EvilRoey> just wondering what the utility of BTRFS is if the installer cannot handle installating making sure not to nuke all the  subvols
[22:43] <EvilRoey> *installing.
[22:43] <EvilRoey> haha, installating.
[22:44] <azizLIGHT> how do i check what partition table a usb hdd has?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> azizLIGHT: sudo parted -l
[22:45] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: I have no idea if it can or not. To check for the sanity of your proposal, what paths other than /home/ are you trying to preserve?
[22:45] <EvilRoey> just /home, actually
[22:45] <EvilRoey> oh, and /archive (which is where I put media)
[22:45] <EvilRoey> I have a few volumes that I hang off of /
[22:45] <dreamcat4> has anyone else been experiencing boot problems on the latest 14.10 kernel 3.XXX.25 ?
[22:46] <dreamcat4> or is it just me ?
[22:46] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  //home, /archive, /porn-for-the-greater-good, etc.
[22:46] <dm7freek> I have LDAP and just messed with my routing a bit. Now when I try to log in, I get a black screen followed by the same login screen. What's going on?
[22:46] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  and with BTRFS being this meta-container for volumes, I am concerned that if I remove it and re-make it in the partition table, it will wipe out those subvols that I did not want touched.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: I expect Ubiquity's feature for installing over an existing system (overwriting only "system" directories) will work fine for you. No guarantees though :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  thanks for ansewring
[22:47] <EvilRoey> heh :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  I was hoping to do a clean installation
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  in the worst case, I'll jsut copy the data back frombackup.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: Try it out and tell me how it goes, I'm curious :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> ;)
[22:48] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: Note that i expect that the default will be to simply whipe the partition you're installing to, so please do read through the install screens carefully.
[22:48] <EvilRoey> aye
[22:48] <EvilRoey> ok, seems like we think alike on this :)
[22:48] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  btw.. so the context is that my current 14.10 system is failing,
[22:49] <EvilRoey> and I think a fresh installation would fix that.
[22:49] <dreamcat4> grrr. or does everyone here just use LTS these days ?
[22:50] <bekks> dreamcat4: Which kind of problems do you experience using 14.10?
[22:50] <bekks> Taking polls wont solve them ;)
[22:51] <dreamcat4> bekks: well the kernel moved from 3...24 --> 2....25 recently, and at that time it's not booting for me anymore
[22:51] <dreamcat4> but i need to check if its the new kernel, or some 3rd party software i've installed
[22:51] <bekks> dreamcat4: What exactly does it do then?
[22:51] <dreamcat4> i did a re-install, but same thing happened again
[22:52] <dreamcat4> boot hangs / blacnk screen
[22:52] <Jordan_U> dreamcat4: Have you tried booting in recovery mode/
[22:52] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:52] <dreamcat4> last thing on the log is 'makefile something runlevel S' it's all pretty strange
[22:53] <dreamcat4> Jordan_U: i've been able to use the recovery mode feature. but the failure cause is still a mystery to me
[22:53] <dreamcat4> it may be because i've innstalled some debian pkgs from 3rd party srcs, but the precise failure cause isn't very clear
[22:54] <Bashing-om> dreamcat4: Proprietary graphics driver ( not building ) ??
[22:54] <__raven> cfhowlett: read again: encrypted home is no server specific function
[22:55] <Jordan_U> dreamcat4: What happens if you select the recovery mode entry, then select the option to continue booting normally?
[22:55] <dreamcat4> it could be something to do with the graphics driver. i tried removing 2 such pkgs installed from stemos repos. but that didn't solve the boot issue
[22:56] <Chuck_Norris> dreamcat4: what is your graphic card¿
[22:56] <dreamcat4> Jordan_U: i've just done that no on .23 kernel after re installing over the same partition (unchecked format box in the installer)
[22:56] <dreamcat4> the card is an intel GMA HD 3000 / 945 or something like that
[22:56] <dreamcat4> IGP
[22:58] <dreamcat4> right not i've booted that way and am installing updates with software updater. i still don't understand what cruft was remaining for the problem to return since i re-installed from the live CD today
[22:58] <dreamcat4> that should have wiped out everything in /etc/ /usr and /var directories and grub too.
[22:59] <dontpet> @bekks single line hack failed. Trying the multiline with the whitespace removed per your suggestion now.
[22:59] <dreamcat4> time to reboot to finish installing the latest updates...
[22:59] <dm7freek> I am unable to log in via gui, only over ctrl-alt-F#    (using LDAP)   I have ldap auth log open. what's going on?
[23:00] <dreamcat4> ah-ha. it's booted properly this time
[23:01] <dreamcat4> now if i can just figure out which 3rd party software / repos NOT to re-install again (steamos most probably)
[23:02] <dontpet> @bekks same thing :(
[23:02] <dreamcat4> question: if i add a debian-based repository into my apt-srcs list (even if it's at the bottom of the list). will that cause debian pkgs to be pulled in be accident instead of ubuntu ones ?
[23:03] <dreamcat4> i suspect that was my problem here
[23:03] <dontpet>  E: Unable to locate package %end
[23:05] <maestrojed> I am trying to import a somewhat big sql file via CLI. I get an error I am not familiar with. The error looks to me to be a linux error more so than mysql. Can anyone help? -bash: xmalloc: ../.././builtins/evalfile.c:162: cannot allocate 783095624 bytes (1851392 bytes allocated)
[23:07] <__raven> du -h on / gives me 50 gb but df -h gives me 300 gb used space. whats wrong here?
[23:07] <Walex2> __raven: nothing
[23:08] <Walex2> __raven: depends on filesystem, or perhaps you need to 'fsck'
[23:08] <Walex2> __raven: also use '-x' with 'du'
[23:09] <__raven> Walex2: deleting files does not effect the free space at all
[23:09] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: For some reason it look like bash was trying to allocate 783 MiB of RAM in one go, and failed. What is the exact command you ran?
[23:09] <Walex2> __raven: In that case 'fsck' will be quite necessary
[23:10] <Jordan_U> __raven: What files are you deleting and how?
[23:10] <__raven> Jordan_U: some big video files using rm on cli
[23:11] <Jordan_U> __raven: Is it possible that those video files are still open in some application?
[23:11] <maestrojed> joshh20 a few. 1) On the MySQL CLI: "source filename.sql"; 2) On the linux CLI "mysql -u user -ppass dbname < filename.sql: 3) On the linux CLI "cat filename.sql | mysql -uuser -ppass dbname
[23:11] <maestrojed> Sorry joshh20 that was meant for Jordan_U
[23:11] <__raven> Jordan_U: no thats impossible. never opened and this is a headless/no x system
[23:11] <dm7freek> I have an nfs automount and ldap. I cannot log in w the gui. i can log in via cli, but my automount fails. can anyone help me?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: Triple check that you're running "source filename.sql" at the MySQL CLI ;)
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U All day long buddy :)
[23:12] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: I don't understand your last comment.
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U the last two commands I listed give a different error
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U mysql server gone away
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U just joking. I have double checked a bunch.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: The error message you posted looks a lot like what I would expect from running "source really_large_sql_file.sql" from *bash* instead of from an SQL prompt.
[23:14] <maestrojed> Jordan_U interesting. I will ponder that and Quadruple check
[23:15] <__raven> Jordan_U: how to force a fsck on boot? i have no option to control the boot menu
[23:15] <Jordan_U> !fsck | __raven
[23:16] <__raven> ok tnx
[23:16] <dontpet> !ks.cfg | donotpet
[23:16] <Jordan_U> __raven: You're welcome.
[23:16] <maestrojed> I am sure I am on the MySQL CLI. BUT I think I just had success. I put bash into noprofile mode before entering the mysql cli. I got a few server gone away messages but it looks like it reconnected and recovered.
[23:17] <dontpet> whoever manages the bot: !kickstart has a broken link.
[23:17] <dontpet> :(
[23:21] <RobBurkeOne> Hey, I have problems with flash in my firefox on 14.04. I reinstalled the flashplugin-installer but I still get messages everywhere that I have to install flash in order to get certain things working. What can I do?
[23:21] <Chuck_Norris> RobBurkeOne: use Chorme -.-
[23:23] <Jordan_U> !kickstart | dontpet :)
[23:23] <__raven> Jordan_U: ok that solved the problem (for now) and deletion again affects the free space
[23:23] <__raven> hopefully that will remain
[23:23] <RobBurkeOne> anything else apart from that? ;)
[23:23] <Chuck_Norris> RobBurkeOne: Firefox for linux use an old version, and some webpages require you to use last or near lastest version of adobe flash plugin, last version of Chome for linux uses latest
[23:23] <Jordan_U> __raven: You should do a S.M.A.R.T. test, and maybe a memory test also to rule out failing hardware as a root cause.
[23:24] <__raven> another strange behaviour: exchanged ssh keys but sometimes key auth fails and it asks for password. whats that?
[23:24] <__raven> Jordan_U: yes thats an option...
[23:24]  * Chuck_Norris got no flash plugin, just so webm videos .,.
[23:25] <bubbasaures> RobBurkeOne, You can use the pepperflash version chrome has is FF.
[23:25] <bubbasaures> in*
[23:25] <RobBurkeOne> Chuck_Norris: Unlikely in my case: I got a message saying I am expected to have at least flash 10.0.0. And I have 11.2.something installed. At least theoretically
[23:25] <Chuck_Norris> sed -i 's/so/watch/'
[23:30] <__raven> Jordan_U: smart says i have a lot of "old age" and "prefail" but no major errors and state is ok
[23:36] <acu> how can I see which version is in repository on Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS ?
[23:36] <ten20> is there a point in installing both ubuntu-after-install and ubuntu-tweaks?
[23:38] <xangua> ten20: ubuntu-after-install ¿
[23:38] <Bashing-om> acu: -> apt-cache policy <package_name> .
[23:40] <Pinkamena_D> Has anyone tried to set up webex, or at least the java plug in, in firefox? I have had no such luck after trying many tutorials and the java test page just gives a white box
[23:44] <spencer_> do i need to authenticate myself?
[23:44] <spencer_> to chat
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !identify | spencer_
[23:47] <zerowaitstate> Pinkamena_D: you may need to get the Oracle JVM rather than Iced Tea
[23:49] <zerowaitstate> Pinkamena_D: there are a few proprietary parts to the Oracle JVM that WebEx may depend on
[23:51] <jinglescafe> Hello! I need some support
[23:53] <DrManhattan> I am using ubuntu 14.04 and I am unable to delete mails with squirrelmail. It greys the entries and markes them with a D but it doesn't delete them
[23:53] <DrManhattan> I beg humbly for help
[23:53] <Jordan_U> jinglescafe: Just ask your question, and if anyone can help they will :)