[13:48] <Katronix> Greetings all, can anyone here help me install the driver for Realtek USB dongle: 0bda:b812 ? I tried to follow the directions here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2378892&page=5 however it seems the API has changed to much from to compile on 4.15.0-23-generic


[01:05] <wgrant>   File "/home/wgrant/src/launchpad/branches/amd64/lib/lp/services/librarian/client.py", line 204, in addFile
[01:05] <wgrant>     raise UploadFailed('Server said: ' + response)
[01:05] <wgrant> lp.services.librarian.interfaces.client.UploadFailed: Server said:
[01:06] <wgrant> I sent the librarian a whole lot of SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 during that
[01:06] <wgrant> It was the first of my 50 or so tests to fail, so possibly not a coincidence.
[01:18] <wgrant> Oh
[01:18] <wgrant> That's just because the librarian silently dies on those signals rather than actually doing anything useful.
[01:18] <wgrant> How do we rotate logs on prod...
[01:20] <wgrant> Ah, it only hooks USR1 when there's actually a log specified, and USR2 only works on appservers.
[01:24] <wgrant> ...
[01:24] <wgrant> 2014-06-26 11:24:11+1000 [-] Received SIGINT, shutting down.
[01:24] <wgrant> 2014-06-26 11:24:11+1000 [-] Main loop terminated.
[01:24] <wgrant> 2014-06-26 11:24:11+1000 [-] Server Shut Down.
[01:24] <wgrant> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:22] <wgrant> cprov: Good catch on the missing arg. I'd only dropped those extra log entries during testing.
[12:22] <wgrant> Thanks for all the reviews.
[12:22] <wgrant> s/missing/extra/
[12:38] <dpm> wgrant, I seem to remember that enabling armhf builds for a PPA should be requested first. Would it be possible to enable them for https://launchpad.net/~dpm/+archive/ppa? Thanks
[12:38] <wgrant> cprov: Oh, now I remember. I was going to delete handleFailure in the branch I'm working on now.
[12:39] <cprov> wgrant: it works for me :)
[12:39] <dpm> wgrant, ah, please ignore my previous message. It seems that ppa has already got armhf builds enabled
[12:40] <wgrant> dpm: Yep, armhf already enabled there.
[12:40] <dpm> yeah, sorry for the noise
[12:40] <wgrant> np
[12:41] <wgrant> yay, made it over 100 lines of credit again
[13:11] <wgrant> cprov: https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/handleStatus-crash/+merge/224617
[13:12] <cprov> wgrant: on it
[13:23] <cprov> wgrant: r=me
[13:23] <wgrant> cprov: Thanks.
[13:24] <wgrant> And it'll get a nice workout overnight on staging...
[15:39] <cjwatson> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751207 - perhaps we should pass DH_VERBOSE=1 to our builds?
[15:40] <wgrant> Hmm
[15:40] <wgrant> Indeed


[02:45] <Burgundavia> anybody alive?
[03:45] <popey> moo
[03:45] <popey> but
[03:45] <popey> bed
[03:53] <Burgundavia> already posted
[03:53] <Burgundavia> see you tomorrow, popey
[14:18] <beuno> the fridge just got dug  :D
[14:18] <beuno> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_hits_20_000_downloads_in_one_week
[14:19] <Daviey> beuno: sorry :)
[14:20] <beuno> Daviey, heh, on the contrary, the idea was for the fridge to be a good news source
[14:33] <Rinchen> great news!
[14:33] <Rinchen> I saw that a bit earlier
[14:34] <Rinchen> thanks to all of you guys writing up stories ( Burgundavia )
[14:34] <Rinchen> and beuno
[15:10] <beuno> Rinchen, :D
[16:45] <Burgundavia> anybody alive?
[16:45] <Burgundavia> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1202
[16:48] <beuno> Burgundavia, looking
[16:49] <beuno> Burgundavia, that ready to go live?
[16:52] <Burgundavia> not quite yet
[16:53] <beuno> ok, the only odd thing is the width="75%" bit
[16:54] <beuno> doesn't seem line an image should have a variable width
[16:54] <Burgundavia> right
[16:56] <Burgundavia> now it ready to go live
[16:57] <beuno> Burgundavia, can I tweak the image width?
[16:57] <Burgundavia> yep, and then take it live
[16:57] <Burgundavia> I am going for lunch
[16:57] <beuno> Burgundavia, have a good lunch
[16:59] <beuno> it's live
[17:27] <Burgundavia> rocking, thanks beuno
[20:17] <Burgundavia> beuno: did you edit the mythbuntu page?
[20:17] <beuno> Burgundavia, not at all
[20:17] <Daviey> popey did, on our request
[20:18] <Burgundavia> oh, ok
[20:18] <Burgundavia> wondered why it showed up as new again
[20:18] <Daviey> \o/
[20:18] <popey> it shouldn't have
[20:18] <popey> I didn't change the update date
[20:19] <Daviey> well the story is "It's cool, It's fresh, Stick it on the Fridge!"
[20:19] <Daviey> so of course it's marked as new :)
[20:23]  * knoeki spots life!
[20:23] <knoeki> :o
[20:24] <knoeki> good evening everyone ^_^
[20:24] <beuno> evening knoeki
[20:26] <knoeki> I know this isn't the place for questions, but I seem to be unable to get help elsewhere.
[20:26] <knoeki> ..would you mind if I'd point you to a forum post?
[20:28] <knoeki> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/107134-xorg-nvidia-login-screen-not-displayed-bug.html
[20:28] <knoeki> I'm somewhat desperate.
[20:29] <knoeki> I tried *anything* I could think of
[20:29] <knoeki> and no-one really knows. in #ubuntu they diddn't answer me, in #nvidia neither.
[20:29] <beuno> knoeki, you are right, this isn't the place to get that kind of information  :D
[20:30] <knoeki> well, I was hoping to accidentially find someone with a bright solution :D
[20:31] <beuno> knoeki, have you tried posting in ubuntuforums?
[20:31] <knoeki> yup
[20:31] <knoeki> no replies
[20:31] <beuno> or filing a question in Launchpad?
[20:31] <knoeki> nope..
[20:31] <knoeki> what's launchpad?
[20:32] <beuno> knoeki, check out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[20:32] <beuno> it's where all Ubuntu's magic happens
[20:32] <beuno> bugs, blueprints, translations, questions...
[20:32] <knoeki> well, actually, I had one or two solutions in mind..: 1) either upgrade or downgrade xorg, because it appears to be some hybring 7.2 with 7.3 elements now
[20:33] <knoeki> 2) Downgrade to 7.04, where stuff worked.
[20:33] <beuno> knoeki, I really can't help you with that, and this not being a support channel, I don't want to encourage it either
[20:33] <beuno> but I would try out Launchpad answers
[20:33] <knoeki> 'k.
[20:33] <knoeki> well, like I said. I asked in #ubuntu
[20:33] <knoeki> but they just ignored my question.
[20:34] <knoeki> :/
[20:34] <beuno> knoeki, they might ot have the answer  ;)
[20:34] <Daviey> knoeki: launchpad answers :)
[20:34] <beuno> I see you posted in linuxforums, did you try ubuntuforms.org?
[20:34] <Daviey> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[20:35] <knoeki> beuno: yes.
[20:36] <knoeki> Daviey: beuno gave me that link already :_)
[20:39] <popey> have you posted your question then knoeki ?
[20:40] <knoeki> popey: not yet
[20:40] <knoeki> I did a search
[20:40] <knoeki> found a similar problem.
[20:40] <knoeki> but not the same


[00:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> FYI everyone: just uploaded the newest version of papirus icons with the fixed Lubuntu logo to Kinetic.
[00:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> I could've waited for Debian, but if they come in later, I'll just sync what they have.
[01:08] <guiverc> thanks Eickmeyer[m]
 "FYI everyone: just uploaded..." <- If you didn't I was going to before Feature Freeze. Thanks for saving me the work :)
[02:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> Simon Quigley: It's one more package that both Lubuntu and Studio are seeding.
[02:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> And, technically, we'd have clear up until UIF for that.
[02:41] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer[m]: bah nobody cares about soft freezes :P
[02:41]  * tsimonq2 hides
[02:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> tsimonq2: Well, if you want to go that far, Beta Freeze. *runs*
[02:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Eh, who cares about doing it before the release? Hotfix it 6 hours before release or SRU it the day after. teleports
 "Well, if you want to go that far..." <- I can't be the only one who has uploaded an entire stack update hours before Beta Freeze :P
[04:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> tsimonq2: Nah, but maybe Thomas has with nginx. I've only done entire logo changes.
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Hey Eickmeyer @eickmeyer:matrix.org are you a Debian Maintainer yet?
[04:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> Not yet. Low on time these days, but not completely off the table.
 "Not yet. Low on time these days,..." <- Keysign with me in Prague then :)
[12:05] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy 22.04.1] has been updated (20220809)
 New Jammy ISO released 09-08-2022 - updating testing checklist - but no major changes re.manifest for Lubuntu - 😊
[15:50] <arraybolt3[m]> \o/ Will begin testing once I get a chance (hopefully pretty soon).
 you should sign my key just because heh.  even though Robie already signed my key xD (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> <Eickmeyer[m]> "Not yet. Low on time these days,..." <- Keysign with me in Prague then :))
[16:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> kek
[16:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's also assuming I can even make it to Prague... there's this whole stay-at-home dad gig I have.
[21:42] <LeoK[m]> Just tested Lubuntu Jammy daily ISO trying to reproduce bug 1984136 (reported in Studio) re: auto-login - this does not occur in Lubuntu arraybolt3 will now test Studio and report back
[21:44] <arraybolt3[m]> Leo K: Thank you!
[21:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> Thanks, Leo K . I'm tied-up with work right now. If anybody has an idea for resolution as well, I'm all ears.
[21:46] <LeoK[m]> Having trouble downloading Studio ISO - keeps timing out p.s. I have fastest connection available
[21:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Leo K: Maybe the URL is messed up.
[21:47] <arraybolt3[m]> I'll send the link to the one I used.
[21:48] <arraybolt3[m]> Leo K: Ugh, looks like it may be the server after all - the cdimage site isn't even loading in Chrome for me.
[21:49] <LeoK[m]> Yes the cdimage.com site is befuddled
[21:58] <LeoK[m]> Studio now downloading...
 "Leo K: Ugh, looks like it may be..." <- Running test..
[22:22] <LeoK[m]> Confirm bug re:Studio auto-login ..reproduced and bug report updated arraybolt3 -
[22:24] <LeoK[m]> Signing off until AM..
[22:24] <arraybolt3[m]> 👋 Thanks again!


[23:44] <binger> Have been having problems using java jdk6 to install/run properly in ubuntu 11.10.  I was wanting to uninstall it so that I can try a fresh install.  I used "apt jdk" to find both openjdk-6-jdk and openjdk-7-jdk.  How do I uninstall?
[23:44] <Kotus> ^_^
[23:44] <jeremiah_gatong> Hello, got an idea how can I download Youtube Playlist on my Debian Squeeze install on my NAS?
[23:44] <tannerste> zarafiq, good to hear
[23:45] <boolean> binger: apt-get remove <package> ... do a man apt-get for more info
[23:45] <zarafiq> bye
[23:46] <Airtreck> Eruadan: you want to change the "lamp stack" into user ownership?
[23:46] <Eruadan> well, tomake development easier
[23:46] <claudio> Hi
[23:46] <binger> thanks boolean
[23:47] <Guest10168>  I have a problem about zoneminder. Anyone can help me?
[23:47] <hammommah> does anyone know why i keep getting Hostname errors? ncclient wont loggin, and just tried to add new repo and it gets bad hostname error too?
[23:47] <Eruadan> i mean, i need acess to apache files. also, i need acess to var/www
[23:47] <Eruadan> i don't want to sudo everytime
[23:48] <hammommah> where should i look? dns server? and what do i set search domain to in network settings?
[23:49] <binger> boolean, is there a way to test if jdk is installed properly?
[23:49] <teh3picn00bswifd> #magicpigsex
[23:49] <jen_> problem #2 I installed xscrensavers, now it has a bunch that are missing...
[23:49] <boolean> hammommah: modify your /etc/resolv.conf for domain searches ... do a man resolv.conf for additional inro
[23:50] <boolean> binger: outside of running a java program ... a simple java -version should suffice
[23:50] <CFHowlett> jen_  run updates ; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:50] <CacheMoney> I'm being prompted to install drivers for my graphics card.  However, after finally setting up my wireless card I was prompted to install drivers for my wireless card and it undid the installations I needed to get it to work.  So, should I install the drivers in the 'Addictional Drivers' prompt?
[23:50] <hammommah> boolean ty bud might be back with more questions hopefully no :)
[23:50] <Claudio_Renan> Hi I have a problem abou zoneminder. Anyone can help me?
[23:51] <Airtreck> Eruadan:  you could type: chown <your user> <file name>
[23:51] <whoisthis> hello, I realise it's off-topic...but anyone here on yahoo! mail?
[23:51] <jen_> thats all CFHowlett
[23:51] <jen_> ?
[23:51] <CFHowlett> jen_ try it and see ...
[23:51] <whoisthis> I need to find out if they have tagline advertising in outgoing messages....and there's no specific channel for mail hosting, I'm afraid ;)
[23:53] <jen_> it just says the screensavers are not installed. where can I fin them?
[23:53] <CFHowlett> jen_   installed via software center?
[23:53] <jen_> and why was this weird hypno guy harassing me about turning my monitor off to save the earth...I do NOT appreciate that because its our electric bill
[23:54] <jen_> yes I did
[23:55] <jen_> oh and another problem
[23:55] <jen_> whenever i take my charger out it says my battery is critically low, but its at 100%
[23:55] <CFHowlett> jen_   one issue at a time
[23:55] <jen_> then it shuts off for a second until I -okay lol
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> jen_: what make and model system ?
[23:55] <jen_> acr aspire
[23:55] <jen_> aver*
[23:56] <jen_> acer*
[23:56] <Airtreck> jen_:  type locate <name of your sreensaver> and you shouldn't keep your battery in the laptop while you're charging
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> jen_: what model aspire?
[23:56] <jen_> ehhh what? why not?
[23:56] <jen_> umm lemme check
[23:56] <Airtreck> the battery's life span progresively drops if you're charging while using it
[23:57] <jen_> well no its just a glitch, it stays on for hours
[23:57] <jen_> its just that little thing, but maybe its my charger because my mom stole mine so im using hers.
[23:58] <Airtreck> might be, confront mom :)
[23:58] <jen_> haha heck no she can keep my charger :P
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> jen_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire    as you can see, saying its an acer aspire isn't very accurate
[23:58] <slothscripts> Does anyone have time right now to try and work through my boot problems?
[23:59] <jen_> oh its 5552-sorry ActionParsnip
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> jen_: thanks, let me search


[00:38] <ibeardslee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack currently has a bunch of packages to install for the LTS Enablement Stack, is there a single meta-package that keeps that updated?
[00:38] <ibeardslee> eg from raring to saucy to trusty to .. ?
[18:27] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:28] <olly_> morning
[19:30] <ajmitch> morning
[19:53] <hads> morning
[19:55] <chilts_> morning


[20:22] <col7> ObrienDave, Yes, but it sometimes pops up with my trackpad.
[20:22] <ObrienDave> could be
[20:22] <Mardoxx> Hi, I'm trying to enable numlock at startup; following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[20:22] <Mardoxx> Where's the System Settings > Keyboard Layout > Options > Miscellaneous compatibility options  menu gone? Is this guide not up to date?
[20:22] <mdoge> hi, I have a HFS+ external disk and I cannot write to it. I mounted it with 'sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdd1 /media/Sanne2' but it still says its mounted as read-only. Any clue?
[20:22] <pavlos> col7, you're running 3 apps, term, skype and xchat. xchat is on focus. Repeated alt+tab rotates apps
[20:22] <bekks> mdoge: HFS+ write support isnt implemented, as fair as I know.
[20:23] <col7> pavlos, right, but how can I remove it from a gesture, so it doesn't pop up?
[20:23] <mdoge> bekks: out of the box it is not
[20:23] <mdoge> bekks: but perhaps you know of another way from ubuntu?
[20:23] <ObrienDave> col7, something is triggering alt-tab
[20:24] <col7> ObrienDave, hm.
[20:25] <OerHeks> col7, i cannot find that gesture/trackpad movement, install unity-tweak and see if it is available in there ?
[20:25] <pavlos> col7, you can use ccsm to configure alt+tab behaviour ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211863
[20:25] <col7> OerHeks, alright, thanks.
[20:26] <col7> Another question: Do you recommend Antivirus software, on Ubuntu?
[20:26] <col7> Some say "better safe than sorry."
[20:27] <OerHeks> clam-av is pretty up2date
[20:27] <col7> I don't really use it.
[20:27] <col7> but.
[20:27] <col7> Just for conversation.
[20:27] <OerHeks> col7, easy on the enter, please
[20:29] <col7> OerHeks,  sorry.
[20:34] <col7> I'm signing off xchat for now... but are there any other ubuntu-related channels?
[20:36] <OerHeks> !alis | col7
[20:37] <col7> Thanks.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> mdoge: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus ?
[20:52] <t-Dubs> Hello, fellas. I wanted to take a second to thank everyone on here for helping me get up and running the other day;  Ubuntu is now the default OS on my machine, so I am very happy about that. So, now that it's time for me to get settled in, I need a little bit of help getting my bluetooth speaker-ball up and running!  Can anyone help me with that?
[20:53] <t-Dubs> I can't seem t9o get it to connect.
[20:53] <t-Dubs> l:/
[20:54] <t-Dubs> Anyone?
[20:54] <t-Dubs> My problem is that I can't even get it to show up in the devices list..
[20:55] <t-Dubs> I don't knpw what to do.
[20:55] <ObrienDave> does your computer actually have bluetooth capability? most don't
[20:55] <t-Dubs> So, any help would be appreciated, thanks1
[20:55] <t-Dubs> !
[20:55] <t-Dubs> Yes, it does, I used it all the time back when I was running windows.
[20:56] <ObrienDave> internal or adapter?
[20:56] <t-Dubs> Internal.
[20:56] <ObrienDave> i would suggest looking for a linux driver for your internal device
[20:57] <t-Dubs> OK, so, is there an easy way to do that?
[20:57] <ObrienDave> google?
[20:57] <t-Dubs> Or, should  I just google it?
[20:57] <t-Dubs> LOL, ok, thought so.
[20:58] <ObrienDave> without knowing your exact model, not really ;P
[21:01] <t-Dubs> That sucks!
[21:01] <t-Dubs> MAAAN ,and you call yourself helpful!
[21:01] <t-Dubs> J/K
[21:01] <ObrienDave> never said i was helpful ;P
[21:01] <t-Dubs> For real for real, I was just kidding with you :P
[21:02] <t-Dubs> lol
[21:02] <t-Dubs> Here.. It's a little turtle...
[21:05] <usr0> Hello guys
[21:05] <usr0> I've tried "sudo apt-cache show openssl" in terminal and got in respond that it's version is openssl_0.9.8o. On the official site here: http://www.openssl.org/source/old/0.9.x/ I found that this version is dated by 1-Jun-2010. So, it must definitely have that "heartbleed" voulnerability, right?
[21:05] <usr0> The question is why do we have so old packages in APT?
[21:06] <OerHeks> Ubuntu uses different number/letters, it is patched
[21:06] <OerHeks> !heartbleed
[21:06] <shadaloo> can someone help me retattach a screen session
[21:07] <jatt> usr0: wrong, old version are kept for lts releases and they are security patched
[21:07] <shadaloo> There is a screen on: 23640.pts-34
[21:07] <shadaloo> I deattached from that screen and now I can't screen -dr
[21:07] <shadaloo> i know its not an ubuntu question but just wondering if someone could help
[21:08] <bekks> shadaloo: whats the message when using screen -dr ?
[21:09] <julio> Hola
[21:09] <andrewjs18> hi folks, how do you turn on auto complete and show the directory path by default in the command line?
[21:10] <andrewjs18> ubuntu 14.04
[21:10] <Ben64> andrewjs18: what do you mean exactly
[21:10] <hellpe> hello everyone
[21:10] <julio> only speaks spanish not english!!!!
[21:10] <andrewjs18> Ben64, so when I'm signed in with a regular user (not root), this is all I see:
[21:10] <andrewjs18> $
[21:11] <andrewjs18> if I switch to say /home/me, I have to type out pwd to see the path I'm in
[21:11] <ObrienDave> !es | julio
[21:11] <Ben64> andrewjs18: that is not default behavior, what did you do
[21:11] <andrewjs18> Ben64, I didn't do anything..I added a user and that's how it's showing up as
[21:11] <julio> Gracias ubottu
[21:12] <Ben64> andrewjs18: ah ok, you must have used useradd instead of adduser
[21:12] <andrewjs18> Ben64, I think I did use useradd, actually.
[21:13] <Ben64> andrewjs18: cp /etc/skel/.* ~/
[21:13] <Ben64> then re log in
[21:14] <andrewjs18> Ben64, I'm getting this after running the command:
[21:14] <andrewjs18> $ cp /etc/skel/.* ~/
[21:14] <andrewjs18> cp: omitting directory â/etc/skel/.â
[21:14] <andrewjs18> cp: omitting directory â/etc/skel/..â
[21:14] <Ben64> thats fine
[21:14] <andrewjs18> closed ssh, opened it back up and it's still back at just the $
[21:15] <hellpe> i'm having a weird issue with two laptops: i can't connect to any wi-fi network in both of them
[21:16] <Ben64> andrewjs18: maybe restart
[21:16] <hellpe> one is an Eee PC with Xubuntu 14.10, the other is my roommate's Acer with ubuntu 14.10 recently installed
[21:16] <andrewjs18> let's give it a whirl
[21:16] <andrewjs18> 1min
[21:16] <shadaloo> bekks: it returns me to a blank screen
[21:16] <hellpe> both were working correctly until today
[21:17] <shadaloo> bekks: I was only running irssi inside this screen, is there someway to reattach to irssi?
[21:17] <bekks> shadaloo: Try screen -DR
[21:17] <hellpe> I didn't do anything in particular, they just can't connect to either our own wi-fi router, or to my smartphone or even the neighbors' wifi
[21:18] <hellpe> ethernet seems to work fine (I'm using it right now to talk to you)
[21:18] <shadaloo> bekks: returns me to blank shell
[21:18] <shadaloo> bekks: can't get to my irssi session
[21:18] <bekks> shadaloo: so check wether irssi is still running
[21:19] <shadaloo> bekks: it is
[21:19] <shadaloo> bekks: i just don't know how to get to it
[21:19] <bekks> shadaloo: So whats the output of "screen -list"?
[21:20] <MajorGrub> Hi all
[21:20] <shadaloo> bekks: here is a screen on: 23640.pts-34.host	(07/01/2014 02:08:22 PM)	(Detached)
[21:20] <shadaloo> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-shadaloo.
[21:21] <bekks> shadaloo: so just use "screen -r 23640.pts-34.host"
[21:21] <MajorGrub> I’m installing xubuntu on a hp chromebox and in the list of partitions I see many different sda partitions… I don’t know if these were created by chromeos and if I can just remove all of them and create a single partition for xubuntu
[21:21] <shadaloo> bekks: it enters that sreen but the irssi is still silent
[21:21] <shadaloo> bekks: I mean, it is just a blank shell
[21:22] <bekks> shadaloo: Whats the output of "ps -ef | grep irssi"?
[21:23] <shadaloo> bekks: shadaloo 10933 10451  0 21:22 pts/45   00:00:00 grep --color=auto irssi
[21:24] <bekks> shadaloo: so there is no irssi running anymore.
[21:24] <shadaloo> bekks: it's still running I can see my other connection in IRC
[21:25] <bekks> shadaloo: ps -ef clearly tells us that there is no irssi running.
[21:25] <pmax> hello to all...
[21:25] <bekks> shadaloo: Wait - do you use different users for running screen?
[21:25] <EriC^^> shadaloo: type exit a couple times
[21:25] <EriC^^> shadaloo: you're probably in another screen session or something
[21:26] <shadaloo> EriC^^: THERE IT IS
[21:26] <shadaloo> I was embedded in many screens
[21:26] <shadaloo> holy shit man
[21:26] <EriC^^> hehe
[21:26] <shadaloo> thx
[21:26] <EriC^^> np
[21:26] <redemptionsong> I made a mistake when trying to take a screenshot. Used ctrl_prsc (rather than only prsc). I heard the sound of the shot being taken but don't see it in /home/me/Pictures/*     at all nor anywhere else via search in nautilus. Don't know how to search for stuff very well (eg: command line or nautilus) and I reeeeaaallly don't want any junk on this computer (not one 'bit' - sqeaky clean she...
[21:26] <redemptionsong> ...is). Can anyone help me figure out if there is some fantom screenshot somewhere that I certainly wantto delete?
[21:26] <redemptionsong> whoa
[21:26] <Dinosaurio> I think mohammed is gay
[21:26] <shadaloo> EriC^^: very large sir
[21:27] <redemptionsong> * ctrl+prsc*
[21:27] <MajorGrub> Any idea guys ?
[21:27] <OerHeks> !ot | Dinosaurio
[21:27] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, if you didn't hit save, then it is not saved
[21:28] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: Perfect!  Thanks man  :>
[21:30] <bruxC> Hello, new to linux. learning a lot. currently have a ntfs-3g drive I"d like to get into a linux based format. It has a bunch of media on it for plex. What would be the best file system for my situation?
[21:30] <bruxC> and by linux based format I do mean linux-based file system.
[21:30] <naryfa> hi, does anyone know what governs the brightness hotkeys in ubuntu? I have an issue when I press FN and Arrow Up or Down, the screen adjusts in double steps.
[21:31] <OerHeks> bruxC, you cannot change it to ext4 without loss of data, afaik.
[21:31] <redemptionsong> btw, is there a simple way to set the default location for screenshot to where I want them (not where it is by default)?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> bruxC: The "all around' default file system for ubuntu is "ext4" .
[21:32] <bruxC> OerHeks,  I figured. I have a bare metal that I'll be partitioning and then will be transferring the data from ntfs-3g to the new one.
[21:32] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, sure, see this answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/114429/default-save-directory-for-gnome-screenshot
[21:34] <redemptionsong> sweet
[21:35] <naryfa> I guess not
[21:37] <JamieDimon> Ubuntu Server 14.04 Trust wants to install Postgresql 9.3.6. How do I force Postgresql 9.3.5?
[21:37] <newbooter> I have a scary warning in Synaptic: Broken depencency: linux-generic Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers<IP_ADDRESS>.31. What would be the best way to fix this?
[21:38] <newbooter> If uname -4 says 3.16.0-23-generic, does that mean I can safely remove the package from Synaptic?
[21:41] <Bashing-om> newbooter: I say again (uname -r) result is the kernel you are booting. Do not remove this kernel .
[21:42] <mr_george> I wish lxpanelctl run could run my .bashrc first and make expand shell variables like $THIS. Does anyone know an alternative program with similar functionality and those kinds of features? (lxpanelctl run is a simply one-line entry presumably sent to shell to launch an application.)
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> newbooter  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[21:54] <newbooter> MonkeyDust, in terminal this command does not give a response
[21:55] <newbooter> Opened new terminal, response: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> newbooter  try   sudo apr-get autoremove
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> newbooter  try   sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:57] <newbooter> Ok thank you for your help, will try that
[21:58] <andrewjs18> heh, reboot my ubuntu box, now I cannot ping, ssh and reach it from the console.
[21:58] <stephen> #channels
[22:08] <DexterF> hi
[22:08] <jhutchins> andrewjs18: Not much you can do without physical or oob access.
[22:09] <andrewjs18> jhutchins, yeah, it sucks.
[22:09] <andrewjs18> I have a ticket in with the DC
[22:09] <DexterF> bootet live 14.04, installed openssh-server, set passwd for user and via sudo for root, still cannot login from remote, get "access denied" what am I missing?
[22:09] <andrewjs18> it's just a cheap VPS through cloud at cost..I think I paid a one-time fee of $35.
[22:09] <andrewjs18> I guess I'm getting my money's worth.  heh
[22:12] <Guest10831> Hello, I need some help. I had a open office writer document. somhow it got damaged. it says that another user is using it and if i open a copy i see a damaged file - no nromal content. how can i get it back? It's important
[22:12] <Guest10831> The file is only 1 kb now
[22:14] <jhutchins> andrewjs18: For future reference: a lot of virtual hosters use special kernels/drivers and you have to use their sources if you update.
[22:14] <billharrison> I am seeing WRITE SAME failed, Manually zeroing occasionally in my console. What is this, and should I be worried about data loss (I have production user data that cannot be lost).
[22:14] <billharrison> This is Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.
[22:15] <andrewjs18> jhutchins, thanks.
[22:15] <jhutchins> billharrison: What kind of storage is it?
[22:16] <billharrison> jhutchins: VMware. SCSI LSI Logic Parallel (device name is sda1)
[22:17] <jhutchins> billharrison: So does the VM see a virtual disk or a physical disk?
[22:17] <billharrison> jhutchins: A virtual disc.
[22:18] <jhutchins> billharrison: In that case I wouldn't worry too much (beyond routine backups).  It's probably just lag on the host.
[22:18] <jhutchins> billharrison: What filesystem?
[22:19] <Tyler> I need  help
[22:19] <billharrison> jhutchins: ext4
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  let's hear it
[22:20] <Tyler> My ubuntu installed and with out a login
[22:20] <Tyler> So I can not install any programs at a all
[22:20] <billharrison> jhutchins: Hmm, I haven't seen this error before, until doing a new instal of Ubuntu Server.
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  the name you entered during installtion, that's your login
[22:21] <Guest10831> can anyone help me? need the file back!
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  in a terminal, type   whoami
[22:21] <Tyler> It always says password is incorrect
[22:21] <Tyler> And I can only use gest
[22:22] <billharrison> jhutchins: Should I reinstall everything again?
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  make sure the keyboard layout is correct and caps lock is off
[22:23] <Tyler> I have reinstalled it about 10 times already same thing every time
[22:23] <Tyler> Ask for a user name then password
[22:23] <jatt> boot in single mode and change the password
[22:24] <jhutchins> billharrison: I doubt that would do anything different.
[22:25] <Tyler> No like off the bat it wants me to put in a user name
[22:25] <jhutchins> billharrison: Any monitoring at the guest level would be pointless, you're not looking at the real hardware.
[22:25] <parsnip> Hi, I'm finding `ranger' ships with a non-standard config file.
[22:26] <jhutchins> billharrison: You should probably enable whatever disk monitoring ESXi offers and watch that.
[22:26] <Tyler> I have to use the windows installer because my laptop ignores the disc
[22:27] <jhutchins> billharrison: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2040405
[22:27] <jatt> if you forgot the password boot in single user mode and reset it
[22:28] <Guest10831> Hello, I have a big problem and need some help. I had a open office writer document. somehow it got damaged. it says that another user is using it and if i open a copy i see a damaged file - no nromal content. how can i get it back? It's important
[22:28] <parsnip> Any ranger users here? I expected 1? to show me bindings, but doesn't seem to be the case for ubuntu's distribution of ranger.
[22:29] <Tyler___> That link wasn't what I am using
[22:29] <billharrison>  jhutchins: If everything looks fine according to ESXi's disc monitor, is it possible there's still a problem? Could this be related to the fact I elected not to use LVM partitioning?
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  is this useful http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[22:30] <jhutchins> billharrison: No, I prefer not to use lvm, both of the datacenters at my current and past jobs were completely lvm free.
[22:30] <jhutchins> billharrison: Are you using encryption?
[22:30] <selsper> ff
[22:31] <OerHeks> Guest10831, go into the folder where that file is stored, enable hidden files ctrl + h, and see if there is a .lock file >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/183024/why-libreoffice-keeps-saying-the-document-is-locked-for-editing
[22:31] <Tyler___> Because I dual booted my laptop for it so maybr
[22:32] <Tyler___> But I have Toshiba so that won't work
[22:32] <Tyler___> I g2g be back tomorrow
[22:34] <technikfreak> hey guys how and is it possible to disable the auto hide of unity launcher in ubuntu 14?
[22:34] <billharrison> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10245835/
[22:34] <billharrison> jhutchins: How do I find out?
[22:35] <OerHeks> technikfreak, go into systemsettings > appearance > behavior
[22:35] <technikfreak> not possible in 14.0x
[22:35] <OerHeks> what is not possible?
[22:36] <technikfreak> i can just set this with 10 seconds
[22:37] <OerHeks> technikfreak, look again, right hand side, you can turn it off
[22:38] <technikfreak> OerHeks : let me check
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[22:41] <Ben64> !ops
[22:43] <Guest10831> OerHeks: there is one file ending with doc# of 0 byte
[22:44] <OerHeks> Guest10831, sorry to hear that :-(
[22:45] <Guest10831> OerHeks: just running photorec, but affraid that it will not work in this case, but realy need it back
[22:45] <newbooter> Fixed my broken package issue on Synaptic... using Menu -> Package -> Force Version to install earlier version.
[22:45] <bagginsDK> Hello to all. How can i do a search in apt-get? for example: sudo apt-cache search vim?
[22:47] <OerHeks> bagginsDK, apt-cache search vim
[22:48] <bagginsDK> OerHeks, thank you!
[22:48] <OerHeks> no need for sudo
[22:48] <ysangkok> how do i look up hostnames like mymachine.local? nslookup or dig doesn't work
[22:48] <jhutchins> billharrison: You can run smart tests on the host and see if you're getting actual failures.  The numbers look suspicious to me, but the real question is are they stable (good) or increasing (bad).
[22:48] <billharrison> jhutchins: I'm not seing the error anywhere else, I am going to have to reinstall
[22:49] <ysangkok> i can do dig mymachine.local @<IP_ADDRESS> -p 5353
[22:49] <jhutchins> billharrison: That's not going to change anything.  This isn't windows.
[22:49] <ysangkok> but that doesn't work with internet hostnames
[22:49] <ysangkok> i'm looking for a command that can do both
[22:49] <billharrison> Run smartd?
[22:49] <jhutchins> billharrison: How is the drive provisioned?  Thin, thick, lazy?
[22:51] <billharrison> jhutchins: Thick Provision Lazy Zeroed
[22:51] <OerHeks> ysangkok, nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
[22:52] <ysangkok> OerHeks: that's a port scan, right? i just wanna look up a single avahi or public dns hostname.. i don't see how this is related
[22:53] <lathiat> ysangkok: getent hosts hostname
[22:53] <lathiat> ysangkok: will do both
[22:53] <jhutchins> billharrison: esxi, not player, right?
[22:53] <billharrison> jhutchins: Right.
[22:53] <lathiat> ysangkok: or more specifically, will use nsswitch and use whatever nss hostname plugins are enabled ,such as nss-mdns,
[22:53] <billharrison> ESXi 5.5.0
[22:53] <ysangkok> lathiat: oooh great, thanks!
[22:53] <ysangkok> lathiat: my browser does that too?
[22:54] <lathiat> most system programs use the same method
[22:54] <lathiat> though not all, for example, host does dns diretly
[22:54] <lathiat> beause host is part of bind9, it has its own dns resolver code
[22:54] <ysangkok> it makes hostnames a leaky abstraction, i don't like that
[22:54] <lathiat> well its more host isn't quite the right otol for the job
[22:54] <lathiat> host is specifically a DNS lookup tool
[22:55] <lathiat> that just happens to get your list of nameservers out of resolv.conf
[22:55] <lathiat> 99% of programs use the system APIs like gethostbyname, etc.. and will use avahi etc
[22:55] <Mortix> hi everyone, i'm having annoying trouble, my main screen is HIDPI(4k) and when i connect another screen and scale it to 1.5x1.5, the mouse is very limited on the 2nd screen
[22:55] <ysangkok> yeah ok
[22:55] <lathiat> a common confusion point never the less
[22:55] <lathiat> leaky abstraction lol, are you a ruby programmer :P
[22:55] <jhutchins> billharrison: Are you running smartmontools on the VM?
[22:56] <billharrison> jhutchins: No.
[22:56] <jhutchins> billharrison: vmtools installed and current?
[22:57] <billharrison> jhutchins: vmtools are not installed.
[22:57] <Pinkamena_D> how to you 'undock and leave' a laptop? Say you are working on your laptop and you would like to place it on standby and take it with you. The docking station wante you to press a button to stop the station before physical removal, but if you put the laptop to sleep first, this button will wakt it up.
[22:57] <ysangkok> lathiat: no. but i know a nice ruby programmer joke. this ruby programmer went to a conference with a t-shirt saying ":sex". everyone thought he was cool, his t-shirt said "sex symbol". but what he didn't realize that everyone else read it as "colon sex" :D:D:D
[22:57] <lathiat> ysangkok: bahaha that is actually hilarious and i've never heard it.
[22:57] <jhutchins> billharrison: Definitely install them; then reboot.  If you continue to see the errors don't worry, they're informational not any indication of data loss.
[22:57] <Pinkamena_D> the only way I can actually find that works is to press the button at the same time as suspending.
[22:58] <jhutchins> billharrison: WRITE SAME is a scsi command that's not always available, this is just the kernel telling you it tried it and had to do manual writes of repeated zeros instead of the write same command.
[22:58] <ysangkok> not sure if sarcastic
[22:58] <jhutchins> billharrison: There might be a slight performance hit, but it will probably be fixed in the next kernel update.
[22:59] <billharrison> Why would the absense of the vmware cause this?
[22:59] <jhutchins> billharrison: The tools include drivers optimized for the virtual VMWare hardware.
[22:59] <Guest10831> OerHeks: there must be a way. I know the name and some words within the document
[22:59] <shadaloo> are there any packages that implement AES
[22:59] <shadaloo> ?
[23:00] <jhutchins> billharrison: It's not clear whether they eliminate the problem in all cases, but you do want to use the ones that are current with your version of esxi.
[23:00] <owen1> i want to see all the services that are available on my machine, which one are currently running and which are starting on boot. i know there are 3 services system in ubuntu: system v init, upstart and systemd. i also know the command 'service --status-all' is doing what i want but only for system v init. am i accurate with my assumptions and what are the other 2 commands i need to know?
[23:00] <billharrison> Okay, will try installing the tools!
[23:00] <billharrison> And I will notice this when I'm installing things because of the writing,r ight?
[23:00] <jhutchins> billharrison: Possibly.
[23:01] <toan_> glish
[23:02] <parsnip> Dang it, in ranger, `:dump_keybindings' etc does nothing.
[23:02] <parsnip> Supposed to be bound to 2?
[23:02] <jhutchins> billharrison: Here's one method of eliminating the messages: http://www.it3.be/2013/10/16/write-same-failed/
[23:03] <jhutchins> billharrison: From the looks of things a current kernel and the tools should fix it though.  Patch was in the kernel tree in 2013.
[23:03] <shadaloo> are there any packages that implement AES ?
[23:04] <billharrison> jhutchins: Hmm, I am running kernel 3.13.0-32
[23:04] <OerHeks> !find aes
[23:05] <billharrison> jhutchins: Use this? apt-get install open-vm-tools
[23:08] <jhutchins> billharrison: That will work, or you can use the install process on the host (untar, run installer with the -d for defaults).
[23:10] <billharrison> jhutchins: Thank you. I've installed open-vm-tools, so now I will be watching syslog. We all have our fingers crossed.
[23:15] <bagginsDK> Hello again. How can i check if a daemon service is running?
[23:15] <jhutchins> billharrison: Again, it's an informational message, not an actal error, so no danger to your data.
[23:15] <bagginsDK> Specific for ssh
[23:15] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: Service sshd status
[23:15] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: ps ax | grep ssh
[23:16] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: netstat to see if the port is active.
[23:16] <jhutchins> telnet, nmap, or ssh from a remote to see if it's open
[23:17] <daftykins> netstat -tuln
[23:17] <bagginsDK> jhutchins, service sshd status returns unrecognized servivice sshd
[23:18] <m0h4wk> Does anyone have any expertise with the Tor browser?
[23:19] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: Sorry, it's just ssh
[23:20] <bagginsDK> jhutchins, this is what returns: ssh: unrecognized service
[23:20] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: Did you install it?
[23:20] <jhutchins> !ssh
[23:22] <bagginsDK> I come from Fedora and there it was preinstalled. Best way from sudo apt-get install ssh_
[23:23] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:23] <daftykins> !info ssh
[23:24] <daftykins> ah, does both, ok
[23:24] <jhutchins> bagginsDK: ubuntu's a bit more desktop oriented, so not everybody runs it.
[23:25] <billharrison> jhutchins: Thanks so much, it looks to be fine.
[23:36] <somekool> hey there... my onboard sound stopped working after system update running 15.04, any one got similar issue ?
[23:37] <remline> I don't understand why both 'apt' and 'apt-get' commands exist. Evidently 'apt-get' is preferable?
[23:39] <daftykins> somekool: #ubuntu+1 for unfinished releases.
[23:39] <somekool> thanks daftykins
[23:58] <rww> remline: apt is brand new, I'd expect it to replace apt-get at some point, but we generally go with apt-get for now
[23:58] <rww> it's just Yet Another Frontend to APT. same as aptitude, etc.
[23:59] <remline> rww, thanks, for a while I was thinking apt-get used apt, but reading the man page dispelled that notion.
[23:59] <rww> yeah, there's apt the command and APT the library
[23:59] <rww> apt-get uses APT, not apt
[23:59] <rww> it's a bit silly


[04:09] <chris4585> so I'd love to try unity on my laptop / desktop but the video card drivers seem to not allow compiz to work for me :|
[04:11] <chris4585> hrm well I take that back on my laptop, the driver is downloading now woot
[11:32] <chibihogoshino> chris4585: why didnt the ubiquity installer not work with the old script ?
[14:14] <chris4585> chibihogoshino?
[14:15] <chibihogoshino> the old version of magic live .. the ubiquity wouldnt install for some reason.. i dont remember why that that ..
[14:15] <chibihogoshino> there was a script or something think
[14:16] <chris4585> I seem to remember something about that.. but bbiab
[14:17] <chibihogoshino> ok
[21:04]  * cyberanger has finished installing asterisk, now to configure it
[21:04] <cyberanger> first time doing this on ubuntu
[21:04] <cyberanger> should be intresting
[21:05] <cyberanger> anyone else doing anything intresting
[21:37] <chris4585> cyberanger, playing with unity
[21:38] <chris4585> I realize now that its important to have a clickable icon on the desktop to reset unity..
[21:40] <cyberanger> kinda unfortunate, no backup option
[21:41] <cyberanger> and removing the ability to restart xorg (however there's ways around that issue, re-enable it, or drop to a shell and restart gdm)
[21:43] <chris4585> cyberanger, it would be useful to have a way to backup to gdm
[21:44] <chris4585> or at least have something similar to win7 / vista
[21:44] <chris4585> when ctrl+alt+del or is it backspace? whatever, when its pressed it brings up options
[21:44] <chris4585> the exact same should be done on ubuntu in my opinion..
[21:44] <cyberanger> the gdm service is still there, afaik, but yeah, a way to fallback to gnome per use
[21:45] <chris4585> the only way it seems to back out when unity / compiz crashes is to right click on desktop > new file > open > navigate to /usr/share/applications
[21:46] <chris4585> thats rather annoying
[21:46] <chris4585> thats one way of doing it anyway
[21:48] <cyberanger> ctrl + alt + f1
[21:48] <cyberanger> and login there, sudo service gdm restart?
[21:48] <chris4585> yes but the regular joe doesn't know that
[21:49] <chris4585> and they shouldn't have to know that either
[21:49] <chris4585> well this is alpha anyway lol
[21:49] <cyberanger> lol, I remember showing wrst my "desktop" that way, at least once
[21:50] <chris4585> lol
[21:50] <cyberanger> (and he didn't know about ctrl + alt + f7, to go back, I did feel bad for that bit, having him restart xorg)
[21:50] <chris4585> must of been a while ago?
[21:53] <cyberanger> wrst: how long ago was it I showed you my desktop?
[21:53] <cyberanger> wrst: on your system, with Ctrl + Alt + F1
[21:54] <cyberanger> chris4585: not too long, I think
[21:54] <chris4585> oh, well wrst learned the hard way then lol
[21:54] <chris4585> pressing alt with left/right will also get you back
[21:55] <chris4585> eventually
[21:57] <cyberanger> not from a tty
[21:57] <cyberanger> well, actually, that might work (that might be something I tweaked for hotkey functions)
[22:00] <chris4585> uh
[22:00] <chris4585> if you keep pressing alt and hit either left or right it will eventually get you to the desktop if xorg is running
[22:01] <chris4585> ah
[22:01] <chris4585> gotcha
[22:01] <chris4585> well thats what it does not tweaked :P
[22:05] <cyberanger> and also, you've sidestepped xorg by pressing ctrl alt f1
[22:06] <cyberanger> xorg loses control of keyboard events (and everything else) since tty1 has focus
[22:07] <chris4585> I usually never press f1, I just generally ger in the area of f1 - f6
[22:07] <chris4585> get*
[22:08] <wrst> cyberanger :P
[22:09] <cyberanger> wrst: when was that (and did you just do that again? kinda a long time to get here, just to stick your tounge out)
[22:10] <chris4585> wrst, unity is coming along, the only thing I really don't like about it is dash and the lack of... working well
[22:10] <wrst> ha ha in the hospital right now cyberanger and been a while back
[22:11] <cyberanger> chris4585: I don't use any login manager (I install some, usually SLiM, seems a little more tweaker-friendly compared to kdm or gdm)
[22:11] <cyberanger> wrst: that time already? congrats!
[22:11] <wrst> chris4585 agree rocky or awn is better I think, but they have time
[22:11] <cyberanger> chris4585: it was a while ago ;-)
[22:12] <chris4585> cyberanger, ?
[22:12] <wrst> thanks.cyberanger inducing in the morning just getting started tonight
[22:12]  * wrst is making full use of quasseldroid
[22:13] <cyberanger> wrst: with DST you lost an hour of sleep, now your about to lose 5 more every night for awhile, you'll need a ton of luck to get sleep now
[22:13] <cyberanger> chris4585: when I showed wrst my desktop, as he said, a while ago
[22:14] <cyberanger> and SLiM is a login manager, extremely lightweight (for openbox, that's nice, no need for qt or gtk libs up the wazoo
[22:14] <cyberanger> GDM is the portion of gnome that does that, amoungst other tasks
[22:15] <cyberanger> and I just use startx or equavilant command
[22:15] <cyberanger> lxde-session (I think?) or so on
[22:15] <chris4585> cyberanger, oh right
[22:16] <chris4585> yes I know what slim is :)
[22:16] <chris4585> slim is nice
[22:16] <cyberanger> yeah, wicd-curses, alsamixer, vlc -I ncurses, and ssh mybox
[22:16] <cyberanger> not alot needing xorg here
[22:17] <cyberanger> speeds up boot at a hotspot, when all I want is to chat here


[12:18] <lllmanulll> Hi guys
[12:18] <lllmanulll> I'd like to have your opinions/advice about something
[12:19] <lllmanulll> I'm designing icons for a new "session window" in Ubuntu
[12:19] <lllmanulll> It'll have Reboot, Shut Down, Log Out and Hibernate
[12:19] <lllmanulll> Already have some propositions here :
[12:19] <lllmanulll> http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/session_icons/
[12:19] <lllmanulll> Look mainly at the "Tango" part
[12:20] <lllmanulll> i'm searching for ideas : what symbol to use for Log Out and Hibernate ?
[12:24] <derek[] > your "version 1" illustrations look fine, except for the reboot
[12:25] <lllmanulll_> derek[] : What about the "recycle" type reboot ?
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Third from the left
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Actually, the first three are three different versions of "reboot" :)
[12:26] <derek[] > yeah, that one is better
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Great :)
[12:26] <derek[] > and do you necessarily have to use the glossy 3D look?
[12:27] <derek[] > I'd rather prefer simple
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Well, I try to comply with the Tango style ?
[12:27] <derek[] > yeah
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Oh, if you talk about the "Version 1" part, I probably won't use it
[12:27] <derek[] > out of these two, go for the "tango"
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Right, I agree :)
[12:28] <derek[] > I mean
[12:28] <derek[] > use the illustrations of ver.1
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> And what would you use for "Hibernate" and "Reboot" ?
[12:28] <derek[] > except for the 'reboot'
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> Ah, I see
[12:28] <derek[] > the 'refresh' kind
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> Well, I was told that the "Zzz" part wouldn't be clear to everybody
[12:28] <derek[] > but if you can come up with a new idea, be better. Because this one looks like the 'refresh' in browsers :)
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> People who don't necessarily have a "cartoon" or "comics" culture
[12:29] <derek[] > right
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> Right, but it's color is particular, and it will be used in a very different context
[12:29] <derek[] > but you're not going to use only icons, are you?
[12:29] <derek[] > there'll be text accompanying it?
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> Yes yes
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> I think so
[12:30] <derek[] > then it shouldn't be a problem
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> probably just under the icons
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> right
[12:52] <klepas> ah, hello
[12:57] <derek[] > hallo klepas
[12:57] <klepas>  how's it going?
[01:15] <derek[] > gut, danke
[01:15] <derek[] > und dir?
[01:17] <klepas> naja. es geht so :)
[01:18] <derek[] > :)
[01:18] <derek[] > naja - ?
[01:20] <klepas> so-so
[01:20] <klepas> :)
[01:22] <artnay> isn't ZzZ more like standby icon?
[01:27] <derek[] > :)
[01:29] <artnay> I mean, when one goes to sleep, he's still active although he is not "active"
[01:29] <artnay> just as when computer goes to standby mode
[01:29] <artnay> but hibernation should be though differently
[01:29] <artnay> +t
[01:30] <artnay> maybe the door theme (logout) could be modified to fit as hibernation icon? or then something totally different
[01:31] <artnay> but if two doors is too much, then neither of those shouldn't be used (door nor ZzZ)
[01:32] <artnay> better suggestions are always welcome, right? ;)
[01:36] <artnay> and to the top of all, that would go against the principle to not have text on icons (which I don't agree _that_ much)
[01:39] <artnay> btw, is humility still under development?
[01:42] <klepas> Not in its original forms
[01:43] <klepas> It is being re-named
[01:43] <klepas> with new things added
[01:43] <klepas> talk to Andyfitz
[01:44] <artnay> I'd like to see it developed more openly, just like tango
[01:44] <artnay> oxygen icons look pretty neat, but the development isn't as open as it is with tango
[03:02] <klepas> moin
[03:04] <derek[] > 'humility' ?
[03:18] <klepas> what about humility :)
[03:24] <derek[] > what is it? :)
[03:24] <derek[] > I know what it is in English :P
[03:24] <derek[] > what were you two talking about?
[03:24] <derek[] > is it some theme?
[04:01] <klepas> no idea
[04:07] <derek[] > o.o
[04:07] <derek[] > you got no idea about it and still you were talking about it?
[04:07] <derek[] > <artnay> btw, is humility still under development?
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> Not in its original forms
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> It is being re-named
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> with new things added
[04:27] <klepas> yea
[04:28] <klepas> that was last i heard about it
[04:28] <klepas> Humility is an icon set
[04:38] <derek[] > k
[04:45] <klepas> I'm off
[04:45] <klepas> it's 2:45 AM here
[04:45] <klepas> nite