[07:57] <edwardsfamily> hi all
[09:36] <userfr> why linux ubuntu change my boot order of my mac ?
[10:05] <anamr> I have lubuntu, this morning when booting, the whole interface has changed.
 After learning and trying to change the new shortcuts - which i feel forced to do, i hadn't asked for such drastic changes! - i would be very grateful if, at the very least, could we please still have the graphic way of minimising, maximising or otherwise change the size of windows
[10:06] <anamr> or, how do we make those minimising and maximising buttons appear again?
 @anamr [<anamr> I have lubuntu, this morning when booting, the whole interface has chang …], What way did it change? Sound odd
 I don't think it's an intended behavior


[22:29] <gmm46> guys i just installed frets on fire in ubuntu
[22:29] <andresj> !tarbackup
[22:29] <andresj> !tar
[22:29] <andresj> !bacjyo
[22:29] <andresj> !backup
[22:29] <gmm46> and i hooked up my guitar
[22:29] <FloodBot1> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <Funaust> ^lmao
[22:29] <andresj> lol
[22:29] <gaintsura> rofl, ubottu got introuble
[22:29] <dr_willis> the bots are talking to each other.. :)
[22:30] <xomp> Drk_Guy, oic, lol I had fought with my built-in wifi adapter in my laptop (Compaq Evo N610C) for close to a year and could never get it working with linux lol. Some said it was atheros based, others said it was not. Got to love the Compaq Miniport W200 driver :)
[22:30] <Drk_Guy> vbman11, then idk, sorry man
[22:30] <gmm46> anyone have frets on fire in ubuntu
[22:30] <Funaust> xomp i'm having a similar problem
[22:30] <andresj> hey what tar options can i use to backup a directory w/ date, permissions, all that is possible?
[22:30] <[Gloom]> Hi. I'm trying to use a bluetooth headset with VoIP applications (Ubuntu8.04). I'm reading a bunch of docs, about bluez-utils, sco, a2dp, bluetooth-alsa.... Is there a method/guide with the best approach to use headsets with this distro?
[22:30] <gmm46> gtg done installing frets on fire
[22:30] <gmm46> time to rock out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[22:30] <xomp> Funaust, stop right now and buy a supported card, that's what I did after a year of crying and beating my family.
[22:30] <Drk_Guy> xomp, lol
[22:30] <Funaust> Drk_Guy who is the wifi team?
[22:31] <Funaust> where do i find them
[22:31] <vbman11> Drk_Guy: well thanks anyway
[22:31] <TJ-42> Hello, somehow I moved a window so that the top half of the window is above the monitor -- this means I can't grab it to move it back down.  How do I move it back?
[22:31] <lolmac> hi, TJ-42
[22:31] <Drk_Guy> Funaust, MadWifi Guys
[22:31] <vbman11> does anyone else know of a 3d cad program
[22:31] <Funaust> yeah where are they lol
[22:32] <Funaust> Maya? 3ds max?
[22:32] <xomp> Funaust, try #madwifi
[22:32] <pellen> Anyone who want to help me a little? I'm trying to install ubuntu with wubi in vista x64,but after it that and I reboot, it just boots vista as usual...no grub or choice or anything :( been searching the forums forever without finding a solution :(
[22:32] <JunTao> grr i'm unable to mount my usb stick
[22:32] <xomp> !dualboot | pellen
[22:32] <pihhan> TJ-42: press alt and drag it anywhere on window down
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> vbman11, np
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> vbman11, maybe you can use wine ;)
[22:33] <JunTao> it says "invalid mount option when attemption to mount the volume"
[22:33] <jimmygoon> Where do I set my path in ubuntu?
[22:33] <JunTao> I just put it in the laptop and it didn't work
[22:33] <xomp> jimmygoon, path to/for what?
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> jimmygoon, export $PATH /...
[22:33]  * davidroderick thinking
[22:33] <jimmygoon> Drk_Guy, does that "save" it in the appropriate location?
[22:34] <Drk_Guy> jimmygoon, just for the current terminal
[22:34] <Drk_Guy> jimmygoon, if you want a permanent change, edit .bashrc, don't ask me how
[22:34] <facilitador> Hello Friends
[22:34] <lolmac> hi, facilitador
[22:35] <jimmygoon> Drk_Guy, no thats fine. I just wanted to make sure that was correct - my .bashrc didn't have an existing line was all
[22:35] <Drk_Guy> !hi | facilitador
[22:35] <pellen> xomp, i used wubi...installing from within vista
[22:35] <Drk_Guy> jimmygoon, :)
[22:35] <facilitador> I need a software for convert PDF a e-book or HTML en Linux
[22:35] <facilitador> I need a software for convert PDF to e-book or HTML en Linux
[22:35] <facilitador> I need a software for convert PDF to e-book or HTML in Linux
[22:35] <Drk_Guy> !es | facilitador
[22:36] <xomp> facilitador, what do you need?
[22:36] <facilitador> I need a software for convert PDF to e-book or HTML in Linux
[22:36] <Mello> dabor
[22:36] <xomp> facilitador, I didn't quiet get that
[22:36] <Jacobbs> Say it again facilitador!
[22:36] <Jacobbs> try this facilitador
[22:36] <Jacobbs> email it your own GMail account
[22:36] <Jacobbs> Then when you get the attachment, view it as HTML.
[22:36] <facilitador> I need a software for to convert PDF to e-book or HTML in ubuntu
[22:36] <Jacobbs> pactically no work.
[22:37] <xomp> Jacobbs, Brilliant!
[22:37] <Jacobbs> Well I'm sure there are programs that do it
[22:37] <Jacobbs> But you know, that just came to mind as the easy way out.
[22:37]  * xomp awards +10 internets to Jacobbs for his wit :)
[22:37]  * Drk_Guy loves magnatune
[22:38] <facilitador> I need a software to convert PDF to HTML
[22:38] <facilitador> I need a software to convert PDF to HTML(E-book)
[22:38] <Drk_Guy> !repeat | facilitador
[22:38] <unikum_kz> hello there!
[22:38] <lolmac> hi, unikum_kz
[22:38] <dr_willis> facilitador,  yes... we understand that...
[22:38] <Jacobbs> facilitador, read what I said.
[22:38] <Jacobbs> here, let me try again.
[22:38] <dr_willis> facilitador,  you may want to open up synaptic and serach for 'pdf' and see if any tools are in the repositories
[22:39] <unikum_kz> lolmac: how r u?
[22:39] <Jacobbs> FACILITADOR, GO GMAIL, MAKE ATTACHMENT PDF, EMAIL TO SELF, OPEN EMAIL WITH LINK "View as HTML", DONE
[22:39] <gaintsura> Funaust: what kind of card?
[22:40] <Gargantua> Hi.
[22:40] <facilitador> I need to see an e-book on my iPod but this PDF
[22:40] <unikum_kz> Is there anybody speaking russian?
[22:40] <Gargantua> I am following this guide to install fglrx: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[22:40] <Gargantua> unikum_kz, #russian
[22:40] <Jacobbs> facilitador, you can save the HTML file.
[22:40] <Daisuke_Ido> facilitador: stop repeating yourself, it's getting REALLY old.
[22:40] <Gargantua> I added "Driver "fglrx"" to the xorg file.
[22:40] <facilitador> sorry
[22:40] <Gargantua> aticonfig'd it.
[22:41] <facilitador> My english is not good ;-)
[22:41] <Jacobbs> So is your reading.
[22:41] <Gargantua> But after reboot, X won't start.
[22:41] <Gargantua> Well, I just get a black screen after the boot
[22:41] <dr_willis> !find pdf
[22:41] <Jacobbs> willis
[22:41] <Gargantua> Ctrl+alt+backspace won't do shit either.
[22:41] <Gargantua> Any help?
[22:41] <dr_willis> I though there was a pdf2html tool.. but i forget its name
[22:41] <Jacobbs> The simple way is to attach it to gmail
[22:42] <Jacobbs> and let google do it for you
[22:42] <Jacobbs> no packages.
[22:42] <netsurf3> !dupe mr blobby
[22:42] <Jacobbs> It's so easy.
[22:42] <dr_willis> Jacobbs,   unless one dosent want to use gmail. and what ifyou have 100+ files you wish to convert.
[22:42] <radovich> can i make a separate partition of my hard drive from a folder? when i installed the system, i selected only one partition /. i would like to save my /home folder as a different partition now. is it possible?
[22:42] <SkyLeach> hey how do I get specifics on why apt refused to update a package?
[22:43] <SkyLeach> (in apt-get upgrade)
[22:43] <radhoin> hiiiiiii
[22:43] <[Gloom]> Hi. I'm trying to use a bluetooth headset with VoIP applications (Ubuntu8.04). I'm reading a bunch of docs, about bluez-utils, sco, a2dp, bluetooth-alsa.... Is there a method/guide with the best approach to use headsets with this distro?
[22:43] <Scunizi> dr_willis: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-convert-pdf-files-to-html-files.html
[22:43] <amine> hi,does anybody knows how to make Atheos AR9281 wireless chip work on Hardy ?
[22:43] <Drk_Guy> SkyLeach, man aptitude
[22:43] <Drk_Guy> :)
[22:43] <Jacobbs> Scunizi, excellent link.
[22:43] <soundray> dr_willis: poppler-utils contains a pdftohtml
[22:44] <Scunizi> Jacobbs: thanks.. google is my friend.. :)
[22:44] <Vladimir[LV]_> what mail* logs needs to be in /var/log ?
[22:44] <Jacobbs> :P
[22:44] <dr_willis> aha pdftohtml :) not 2html
[22:46] <HollywoodJumper> hello
[22:46] <lolmac> hi, HollywoodJumper
[22:47] <SkyLeach> Drk_Guy, ok read the whole man page and still don't know how to get it to tell exactly why a package is being skipped, unless it's because the package update is optional?
[22:47] <HollywoodJumper> i have questions about linksys router wrk54g
[22:47] <SkyLeach> (sshd_server)
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> SkyLeach, aptitude why <package> might help
[22:47] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: what do you need?
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> SkyLeach, still, apt-get dist-upgrade always works ;)
[22:47] <HollywoodJumper> if default passwords do not work are there other options for accessing it through webbrowser
[22:48] <SkyLeach> Drk_Guy, oh it works, I just don't want to force and update until I know *why* it's balking
[22:48] <Drk_Guy> lol
[22:48]  * SkyLeach really doesn't trust package management systems.
[22:48] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: you need a username and password to accer a router
[22:48] <radovich> *access
[22:48]  * dupesfield nods
[22:49] <SkyLeach> radovich, I don't.  ;-) <evil grin>
[22:49] <HollywoodJumper> i went to <IP_ADDRESS> and it prompts me for password and username
[22:49] <dupesfield> HollywoodJumper,  if default's pass don't work, it means it has been changed
[22:49] <HollywoodJumper> i put in all the default passwords i can find
[22:49] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: if your router came from an ISP, try calling and asking for user and pass. you need a username and pass (try admin admin)
[22:50] <radovich> SkyLeach: what: you bruteforce your way in?
[22:50] <SkyLeach> HollywoodJumper, you can reset the password using a pencil or pen and the little reset hole on the back (or in rare cases the bottom) of the router.
[22:50]  * dupesfield nods
[22:50] <HollywoodJumper> ok cool
[22:50] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: hold the button for 20 seconds
[22:50] <HollywoodJumper> is the pencil the only bruteforce method?
[22:50] <SkyLeach> HollywoodJumper, depends on the router.
[22:51] <ArcInversion> Hollywood: I prefer hammers and axes
[22:51] <dupesfield> on that one, yeah
[22:51] <iplaythisgame> what model?
[22:51] <SkyLeach> and the version of the software on the router.
[22:51] <HollywoodJumper> it is a linksys wrk54g
[22:51] <dr_willis> Pencil is the 'reset to factory default method'
[22:51] <Vladimir[LV]_> How I can restore lost some program files?!?!
[22:51] <SkyLeach> Vladimir[LV]_, which "program files"?  In general, apt-get install <packagename>
[22:52] <sculpt> what is the file name to set fixed ip ?
[22:52] <Vladimir[LV]_> SkyLeach: i have lost some files of my mail server..
[22:52] <sculpt> what is the file name to set fixed ip ?
[22:53] <CanadianLinux> Due to an unresolved bug in the Linux kernel included in Alpha 6, it should not be used on Intel ethernet hardware handled by the e1000e driver (Intel GigE). Doing so may render your network hardware permanently inoperable.
[22:53] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: no user name, only password admin
[22:53] <CanadianLinux>  likes.......
[22:53] <CanadianLinux>  yikes.....
[22:53] <dupesfield> dikes
[22:54] <SkyLeach> Vladimir[LV]_, which mail server?  Postfix, qmail, sendmail?
[22:54] <HollywoodJumper> and if that doesnt work then there are no other ways?
[22:54] <jasuus> hello im trying to do this in a shell:  kill pidof program
[22:54] <lolmac> hi, jasuus
[22:55] <jasuus> how do i pass the result of pidof to kill?
[22:55] <radovich> HollywoodJumper: when it asks for username and pass: username leave blank, type password admin
[22:55] <Gargantua> http://pastebin.ca/1209758
[22:55] <Gargantua> man
[22:55] <SkyLeach> HollywoodJumper, most of the linksys routers have anti-bruteforce delay methods that would make raw bruteforce take FOREVER.  You can bypass this by hitting the tftp server with a perl script very rapidly with a dictionary attack.
[22:56] <SkyLeach> jasuus, kill -9 `pidof someprocessname`
[22:56] <HollywoodJumper> skyleach could you explain that in laymans terms
[22:56] <jasuus> single quotes...
[22:56] <jasuus> thnx
[22:56] <IntuitiveNipple> SkyLeach: we're doing a screen Multiuser piggy-back session from my PC via ssh to monoimoi's server now
[22:56] <unop> SkyLeach, kill -9 ?? that's very rarely needed and should be used sparingly
[22:56] <radovich> is there a way to kill  from console?
[22:56] <radovich> X
[22:56] <unop> radovich, you want to kill X from the console?
[22:57] <SkyLeach> jasuus, actually, those are backticks (the key at the top left of your keyboard with the ~ above it, right next to the 1)
[22:57] <SkyLeach> unop, <evil grin>
[22:57] <radovich> unop: i would like to terminate X from a freebsd console. it runs on ttyv8
[22:57] <jasuus> thank you!
[22:57] <unop> jasuus, kill $(pidof something) #works too
[22:57] <SkyLeach> unop, actually, kill -9 won't hurt anything, just makes sure it actually does kill whatever he's going after.
[22:58] <unop> SkyLeach, you are so wrong about this.
[22:58] <SkyLeach> unop, I would have used killall "processname" anyhow personally.
[22:58] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[22:58] <unop> radovich, killall X  #perhaps
[22:58] <radovich> unop: let's say i am in ttyv1 and want to kill X on ttyv8. is it possibile?
[22:58] <panserbjorn> hey guys i need help with a "havp" error
[22:58] <panserbjorn> !pastebin
[22:58] <unop> radovich,  errm, you could filter processes by tty .. see the -o option to ps
[22:58] <radovich> thanx unop
[22:59] <unop> radovich, something like.  ps -o pid,tty,command
[22:59] <SkyLeach> radovich, why can't you just ctrl-alt-backspace to kill your xserver?
[22:59] <Vladimir[LV]_> SkyLeach: postfix..
[22:59] <nananuu> what is the correct spelling for compiz-settings-manager in terminal?
[22:59] <mizipzor> i will soon buy a new computer, ive used nvidia gfx cards for a couple of years now, due to i heard so much troubles about ati cards and linux... have that changed? will i regret getting a computer with an ati card?
[22:59] <radovich> unop: it restarts. i kill it, and it starts again.
[23:00] <SkyLeach> shift + ctrl + f7 to switch to the xserver tty, then ctrl + alt + backspace to kill it.  (just another way of getting the job done)
[23:00] <unop> radovich,  kill -1 $that_pid  #perhaps
[23:00] <gaintsura> mizipzor: I had a few small problems with my ATI card at first, but I've got just as much functionality as the windows drivers provide now
[23:00] <SkyLeach> Vladimir[LV]_, apt-get --reinstall postfix
[23:01] <radovich> unop: when i start kdm, it starts X, and then X runs on ttyv8. if i want to do something that requires X not to run i have to restart
[23:01] <david> does the fileroller overwrite folders?
[23:01] <mizipzor> gaintsura: nice to hear... maybe it isnt as bad as i thought
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> radovich, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> radovich, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[23:01] <gaintsura> mizipzor: easiest way to install for ATI is get envyng
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> :D
[23:02] <Drk_Guy> !envy | gaintsura
[23:02] <unop> radovich, start up in the recovery mode/single user - or disable kdm from starting - sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[23:02] <Drk_Guy> gaintsura, conclusion, leave as last resource
[23:02] <unop> SkyLeach, FYI.  http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html#uuk9letter
[23:02] <radovich> i will get boring now: how to mount ext3fs in freebsd? how to make kdm atostart with the system??? :)
[23:02] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[23:02] <gaintsura> Drk_Guy: tbh, I had problems doing it any other way, it would work until an update happened and then it failed, or got corrupt, envy was the best way for me
[23:02] <favro> is there an appother then open office that will open office docs?
[23:03] <mizipzor> gaintsura: noted... may i ask; are you playing games on that card? same performance as in windoze?
[23:03] <Wicky656> how do I set ulimit -n for users so that it will take across reboots?
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> gaintsura, envy worked for me where other ways didn't, still, i recommend to leave as a last resource
[23:03] <gaintsura> mizipzor: I don't have time to game much anymore unfortunately, but yes, it does have similar performance as in winblows
[23:03] <jasuus> my output of ps gives a process name as:  [myprog.e] <defunct>
[23:03] <mizipzor> gaintsura: thanks
[23:03] <jasuus> pidof doesnt give its pid
[23:03] <unop> Wicky656, see /etc/security/limits.conf
[23:03] <gaintsura> mizipzor: np
[23:03] <radovich> i dualboot freebsd7 and ubuntu. it would be nice for bsd to see my ubuntu partition. how to make that work?
[23:04] <jasuus> pidof 'myprog'
[23:04] <jasuus> returns nothign
[23:04] <regeya> 'winblows' wasn't clever 15 years ago, is about as clever as 'loonix
[23:04] <jasuus> how do i get that number?
[23:04] <Wicky656> unop:  I have changed /etc/security/limits.conf and it does not take
[23:04] <gaintsura> mizipzor: noteworthy, if you're using compiz, make sure you read on how to configure the driver right
[23:04] <SkyLeach> unop, I know.  I don't really even know why I suggested kill -9.  The only time I've ever had to use it was to kill a runaway jvm that had eaten into the heap from the stack.
[23:04] <unop> radovich, you'll have to ask the guys in ##freebsd about the ext3 driver
[23:04] <jasuus> ps aux | grep myprog shows the number
[23:04] <HollywoodJumper> i could not download all repository indexes in my update manager
[23:04] <Wicky656> and only root can increase the limit
[23:04] <radovich> unop: it won't let me in. i need to be identified... i dunno how
[23:04] <gaintsura> regeya: this may be true, but it perfectly explains MS... either that or Windows is nothing more than a 'controlled' program error
[23:04] <ivantis> does anyone know how to use mingw32msvc-g++ to compile an SDL application?
[23:04] <SkyLeach> with that said though, the killswitch quake mod kicks booty
[23:05] <ivantis> im on ubuntu, my goal is to compile a SDL application for windows
[23:05] <unop> radovich, maybe you need to register on freenode before you can enter the channel
[23:05] <unop> !register | radovich
[23:05] <panserbjorn> heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:05] <gmm46> anyone know how to install flash player in firefox
[23:06] <ubuntuman> i do
[23:06] <ubuntuman> flash 10 is best dont worry about flash 9
[23:06] <radovich> unop: i did that. still wont let me in
[23:06] <ivantis> gmm46: go to a website with flash content on it, it will pop up a window asking you to install it. it has an auto-install option
[23:06] <unop> gmm46, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:06]  * SkyLeach goes off to get some of his own work done
[23:06] <gmm46> ok thx
[23:07] <ivantis> does anyone know how to use mingw32msvc-g++ to compile an SDL application?
[23:07] <ivantis> im on ubuntu, my goal is to compile a SDL application for windows
[23:07] <unop> radovich, consult the freebsd manual, or mailing lists, etc - we can't really support freebsd in here
[23:07] <blacklemon67> Why is the java applet so unusable in firefox?
[23:07] <radovich> i know. i just thought someone knew the command, that's all
[23:07] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> which applet?
[23:07] <gmm46> how do u install java now
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> !java
[23:07] <HollywoodJumper> i could not download all repository indexes what should i do
[23:07] <gmm46> using terminal
[23:08] <SlimeyPete> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre                    assuming you have multiverse enabled
[23:08] <panserbjorn>  heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:08] <Vladimir[LV]_> SkyLeach: i have lost all mail logs.. after restart it doesnt logs
[23:09] <Vladimir[LV]_> SkyLeach: i have created it, but logging is not working
[23:09] <Wicky656> !ulmit
[23:09] <unop> radovich, i vaguely remember it being one of the ports - search the ports collection for "*ext2*"
[23:09] <gmm46> thx
[23:09] <Wicky656> !ulimit
[23:09] <gaintsura> how do I add a location to my path variable?
[23:09] <radovich> unop: thank you very much!
[23:09] <blacklemon67> k thanks
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> is there a package that provides /usr/share/sounds/*.wav
[23:10] <deserteagle> sup
[23:10] <radovich> brb
[23:10] <unop> Wicky656, you might like to consult the limits.conf manpage - or worse off, set the limit in /etc/profile
[23:11] <gmm46> anyone know how to speed up ubuntu cus mine is laging
[23:11] <panserbjorn>  heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> im looking to remove tham as i dont use them and i was wondering if there is a gracefful way to remove them
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> gmm46: what are your specs?
[23:11] <Wicky656> unop:  well wildcarding it worked but specifing the user did not
[23:11] <gmm46> how do i find out my specs
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> gmm46: what cpu / ram / graphics card do you have?
[23:12] <gmm46> dont know, 60mb, and dont know
[23:12] <unop> ActionParsnip, dpkg -S /usr/share/sounds/* | awk -F : '{print $1}' | sort | uniq
[23:12] <Vladimir[LV]_> I Have deleted my MAILSERVER logs, i have created it, but logging doesnt work now :(((((
[23:12] <Vladimir[LV]_> Help me please!
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> unop: wow impressive
[23:13] <SkyLeach> Vladimir[LV]_, enable verbose mode by editing /etc/postfix/master.cf and adding -v after smtpd
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> gmm46: id install xfce-desktop or fluxbox (id personally recommend fluxbox)
[23:13] <SkyLeach> then restart postfix
[23:13] <unop> Wicky656, how exactly were you specifying the users or wildcards?
[23:13] <roadfish> I have a multimedia keyboard with back/forward keys for the webbrowser. I can assign command lines operations to these keys. What should I assign to get firefox to go back/forward in the history of the current page?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> gmm46: its a slicker lighter environment than metacity
[23:13] <SkyLeach> this should give you some clue as to why it will not log in your syslog.
[23:13] <SkyLeach> most probably it's a permission error or missing directory for the logs.
[23:13] <nananuu> where are all programs installed?
[23:13]  * SkyLeach really MUST go afk now and get some work done.
[23:13] <ArcInversio1> I need help with printing.  My printer was working fine a second ago, I printed two pages off of the Evince Document Viewer.  Now when I try to print, I go through all the steps, hit print, and nothing happens.  The printer is still turned on, still connected, everything's the same... except now the print job won't show up and nothing happens.
[23:14] <SkyLeach> sorry chaps
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> roadfish: you need to configure special keys, use xev to get the scancodes
[23:14] <panserbjorn>  heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: all over the place
[23:14] <f_> hi, is there anybody from czech republic?
[23:14] <roadfish> the Linux app I'm using is called "hotkeys". How can "hotkeys" tell firefox go forward/back in the history?
[23:15] <Wicky656> unop: : I set user <tab> hard <tab> nofile <tab> 8192
[23:15] <gaintsura> could someone help me get this corrected... openvas is being a pain with openvas-mkcert http://pastie.org/278081
[23:15] <ArcInversio1> I need help with printing.  My printer was working fine a second ago, I printed two pages off of the Evince Document Viewer.  Now when I try to print, I go through all the steps, hit print, and nothing happens.  The printer is still turned on, still connected, everything's the same... except now the print job won't show up and nothing happens.
[23:15] <Wicky656> unop the wildcard I just used *
[23:15] <nananuu> ActionParsnip,  where can I find my avant-window-navigator so I can sett it when it starts at startup
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> roadfish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207514
[23:16] <unop> roadfish, this too. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374
[23:16] <Vladimir[LV]_> I Have deleted my MAILSERVER logs, i have created it, but logging doesnt work now :((((( Help me please!!!!
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: type which <program name you use to run awm>
[23:16] <unop> Wicky656, and 'user' is a valid username?
[23:17] <nananuu> ActionParsnip,  what is awm?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> unop: ok its spat out a few apps. does this list mean those packages give those sounds or do they depend?
[23:17] <gmm46> brb
[23:17] <ArcInversio1> I need help with printing.  My printer was working fine a second ago, I printed two pages off of the Evince Document Viewer.  Now when I try to print, I go through all the steps, hit print, and nothing happens.  The printer is still turned on, still connected, everything's the same... except now the print job won't show up and nothing happens.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: avant-window-navigator
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: i abreviated wrong
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: which avant-window-navigator
[23:17] <Xklark> How come when trying to install xfce, I get the error "E: Package xfce4 has no installation candidate
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: or whatever makes it run
[23:17] <unop> ActionParsnip, those are the packages whose contents include /usr/share/sounds/*   - you might want to run the command on /usr/share/sounds/*.wav to narrow packages down
[23:18] <tesla___> how do I use shred on a directory
[23:18] <unop> !info shred | tesla___
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> unop: am i ok to just delete these things?
[23:18] <unop> woops
[23:18] <tesla___> !info shred
[23:18] <Wicky656> unop yes
[23:18] <unop> Wicky656, did you log the user off and log him back in?
[23:18] <panserbjorn>  heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> mind you its only 5Mb, ill let it lie
[23:19] <unop> tesla___, you should already have a shred installed .. type.   which shred
[23:19] <Vladimir[LV]_> I Have deleted my MAILSERVER logs, i have created it, but logging doesnt work now :((((( Help me please!!!!
[23:19] <unop> tesla___, the manpage should tell you how to use it.   man shred
[23:19] <nananuu> ActionParsnip,  whatch in the link what must i write in there? http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottp9.png
[23:20] <unop> panserbjorn, please post the *complete* error message including command used.
[23:20] <Xklark> How come when trying to install xfce, I get the error "E: Package xfce4 has no installation candidate" - On the Ubuntu wiki, it said that was the right package to install
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: fire up terminal
[23:20] <tesla___> I have shred when i try to use it with shred -f -z <directory name> I get unable to shred "" is a directory
[23:20] <unop> Xklark, do you have all the ubuntu repositories enabled ?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> nananuu: then type which avant then press tab
[23:20] <unop> tesla___, you can only shred files - so shred all the files within the directory
[23:20] <gaintsura> tesla___: try man shred, I think -f denotes file
[23:20] <raul1> Shockwave flash player isnt working forlinux is it?
[23:21] <Xklark> how do i check unop? I just did a fresh install of ubuntu dapper server
[23:21] <panserbjorn> unop, there is no cmd, i get it at synaptic, sudo apt-get update, and even when booting up
[23:21] <Vladimir[LV]_> I Have deleted my MAILSERVER logs, i have created it, but logging doesnt work now :((((( Help me please!!!!
[23:21] <panserbjorn> unop, that is the complete message i get though :(
[23:21] <unop> Xklark, System > Admin. > Software Sources
[23:21] <rdakin> very newb question about permissions best practices:  how would I create a user than has RW permissions on one directory only, and no permissions anywhere else?  would I want to make him the owner of that dir and remove him from all groups, or...?
[23:21] <Xklark> unop, there is no window manager on this
[23:22] <unop> panserbjorn, can i assume that you get the same error when you run  sudo apt-get update?
[23:22] <Wicky656> unop:  I did a su - user
[23:22] <Vladimir[LV]_> I Have deleted my MAILSERVER logs, i have created it, but logging doesnt work now :((((( Help me please!!!!
[23:22] <panserbjorn> unop: yes
[23:22] <nananuu> ActionParsnip,  Done now?
[23:22] <utram> There are exatcly 1337 users
[23:22] <gaintsura> !repeat Vladimir[LV]_
[23:22] <gaintsura> er
[23:22] <unop> !repositories | Xklark
[23:22] <gaintsura> !repeat | Vladimir[LV]_
[23:22] <tesla___> thanks all - the info in the man page gives alot more information
[23:23] <Vladimir[LV]_> !patience
[23:23] <tesla___> !patience
[23:23] <gaintsura> tesla___: ^_^ always remember man /google before you do so
[23:23] <unop> Wicky656, not sure then - you can set a ulimit in /etc/profile as an alternative.
[23:23] <utram> Does anyone know whetever the nubuntu variant has x86_64 support?
[23:23] <roadfish> ActionParsnip/unop: ok, thanks. basically, these are ways to bind different keystrokes to the multimedia-keys.
[23:23] <JunTao> is there a way to display the ip address instead of the hostname in the PS1 variable
[23:23] <unop> panserbjorn, can you paste to a !pastebin the contents of this file.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/havp.postinst
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> roadfish: yes, you bind the scancode to an action
[23:24] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, it will take me a moment, i will brb
[23:24] <billstei> Is there a way to make konversation use firefox instead of konqueror when I click on a link in the konversation chat window?  I think it is pulling the setting from a kde system-wide setting (I am in Gnome though)
[23:24] <unop> roadfish, yes, with linux - there is usually more than one way to one thing.
[23:25] <unop> billstei, does konversation have nothing within it's configuration options to set the default browser?
[23:25] <billstei> unop: not that I could find
[23:25] <IntuitiveNipple> SkyLeach: are you still around?
[23:26] <unop> billstei, hmm, the guys in #kubuntu or perhaps #kde could shed some light on this.
[23:26] <Xklark> unop: I added new repositories and it found the package, thank you verym uch
[23:26] <billstei> unop: k thanks
[23:26] <wee493> Quick Question: What is a good ftp application with a gui?
[23:27] <erUSUL> wee493: filezilla gftp
[23:27] <unop> wee493, what is your definition of "good" ?
[23:27] <wee493> easy to setup & free
[23:27] <gaintsura> I've got a problem with my path variable... I've tried adding the path /usr/local/sbin and /usr/local/lib to my path var to get openvas to run, but it is still telling me that it is not in the path variable. Anyone have any ideas?
[23:27] <unop> wee493, well, i think nautilus itself is "good" then.
[23:27] <HollywoodJumper> if i add a whole lot of wma format files to my ubuntu will there be compatibility issues with those files
[23:27] <nananuu> ActionParsnip,  what kind of file must it be to open .glade?
[23:27] <gaintsura> HollywoodJumper: so far, myself I haven't gotten wma files to play on ubuntu
[23:28] <gaintsura> but I also am against wma files and didn't search far into it
[23:28] <unop> HollywoodJumper, provided you have the codecs to play those files, you will have no problem - though the codecs themselves are restricted/non-free
[23:28] <wee493> unop, is there a server edition of nautilus?
[23:28] <panserbjorn> unop: here is the contents of that file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49861/
[23:29] <HollywoodJumper> so if i have an external hardrive with a ton of music on it i will never get it to play on rythmbox?
[23:29] <unop> wee493, no, nautilus is just a FTP client - if you want a FTP server have a look at proftpd or vsftpd
[23:29] <gaintsura> openvasd: error while loading shared libraries: libopenvasnasl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory :::: libopenvasnasl.so.1 is located at /usr/local/lib/ and said path is mapped in the PATH variable... any ideas?
[23:29] <HollywoodJumper> is there a way of change the files into an acceptable format for ubuntu rythmbax?
[23:30] <ArcInversio1> I need help with printing.  My printer was working fine a second ago, I printed two pages off of the Evince Document Viewer.  Now when I try to print, I go through all the steps, hit print, and nothing happens.  The printer is still turned on, still connected, everything's the same... except now the print job won't show up and nothing happens.
[23:30] <erUSUL> HollywoodJumper: probably you wil be able to play them via w32codecs
[23:30] <d0wn> Is there anything I can do about forgetting my password to my default keyring?
[23:30] <unop> panserbjorn, what does this command give you?  getent passwd havp
[23:30] <panserbjorn> unop: just a second
[23:31] <HollywoodJumper> how would i go about getting windows codecs for rythmbox?
[23:31] <panserbjorn> unop: havp:x:115:128::/var/run/havp:/bin/false
[23:31] <portablejim> HollywoodJumper,  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:31] <snude> hi
[23:31] <lolmac> hi, snude
[23:31] <Tomas5786> Q is there a way to update the GNOME Desktop
[23:31] <snude> http://rafb.net/p/hTnjdv61.html  I cant get composite enabled.
[23:31] <snude> thats my xorg.conf and log file
[23:32] <HollywoodJumper> what is sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:32] <unop> panserbjorn, ok. try this command. let me know how it goes.   sudo mkdir /var/run/havp && sudo aptitude install
[23:32] <ubuntuman> is there a free or near free language learning program for ubuntu like rosetta stone?
[23:32] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[23:32] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[23:33] <unop> HollywoodJumper, a command to run, the comand itself installs the restricted-extras package.
[23:33] <HollywoodJumper> what are restricted extras?
[23:33] <unop> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | HollywoodJumper
[23:33] <ubuntuman> is there a free or near free language learning program for ubuntu like rosetta stone?
[23:33] <Tomas5786> Q is there a way to update the GNOME Desktop
[23:34] <HollywoodJumper> ok i will give it a try thank you
[23:34] <ubuntuman> sudo ap-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:34] <panserbjorn> unop: it wants to uninstall quite a bit?
[23:34] <unop> HollywoodJumper, essentially it includes the restricted codecs to be installed so you can play proprietary multimedia formats like the .wma
[23:34] <erUSUL> Tomas5786: upgrade to newer version of unbuntu ;)
[23:34] <HollywoodJumper> ok awesome thanks
[23:34] <unop> panserbjorn, pastebin please.
[23:34] <lacy> Question can i get flash 9 for ubuntu?
[23:34] <ubuntuman> dont use 9 use 10 rc2
[23:34] <panserbjorn> unop: kk, duh, srry
[23:34] <ubuntuman> 9 crashes
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Tomas5786: it upgrades with the rest of yuor system
[23:34] <unop> lacy, install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[23:34] <erUSUL> lacy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:35] <lacy>  thanks
[23:35] <ubuntuman> is there a free or near free language learning program for ubuntu like rosetta stone?
[23:35] <panserbjorn> unop: this is where its at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49862/
[23:35] <Tomas5786> Q is there a way to update the GNOME Desktop
[23:35] <Soviet_Bob> If I want to make a system so the /home folder is on a tmpfs file system how should I set up partitions?
[23:36] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, go ahead and type Yes there - we can install these packages when the command has finished.
[23:36] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, and ty
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Tomas5786: it upgrades when you update your system
[23:36] <ubuntuman> tomas5786 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:36] <Tomas5786> i tryed that
[23:36] <Tomas5786> Gnom 2.22 is out
[23:36] <erUSUL> Soviet_Bob: tmpfs contents would dissapear on shutdown you can not do what you want
[23:36] <Tomas5786> how do i know what virsion i have
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Tomas5786: then you have the latest system
[23:36] <Soviet_Bob> What I want is everything to disapear on shutdown
[23:37] <Tomas5786> ok
[23:37] <Tomas5786> cool
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Tomas5786: dpkg -l | grep gnome
[23:37] <erUSUL> !version
[23:37] <HollywoodJumper> i think there is something wrong with my update manager
[23:37] <ubuntuman> Gnome 2.22 is a minor release just wait for intrepid ibex
[23:37] <zoidfarb> Hey, so I had a bunch of errors on my drive, that were fixed with fsck, and now the "Applications" menu won't open
[23:37] <panserbjorn> unop: what does this mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/49863/
[23:37] <zoidfarb> any idea what I can do to fix that? Can I reinstall that menu?
[23:37] <erUSUL> Soviet_Bob: when you boot the next time you wouldn't be able to log in
[23:37] <Soviet_Bob> I'm setting up computers for a school, and they do not want stuff students are downloading to stick around to the next day
[23:37] <erUSUL> Soviet_Bob: no without your home there
[23:38] <Tomas5786> the next question how i can use VB.NET In linux
[23:38] <erUSUL> Soviet_Bob: use quotas and/or remove stuff on shutdown
[23:38] <unop> panserbjorn, it's asking you to choose the languages you want to keep by default - if you do not want to set this at this time, press TAB then ENTER
[23:38] <ubuntuman> VB.net why would you want to use that?
[23:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Tomas5786: you don't.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258761
[23:38] <DCPom> VB lol
[23:38] <Tomas5786> lol becaues thats the only lanuage i can program in
[23:38] <Daisuke_Ido> learn a new one
[23:38] <ubuntuman> VB.NET is windows use python or ruby for programming
[23:38] <panserbjorn> unop: how do i set it for english?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll be more valuable to employers if you learn more than vb
[23:39] <ubuntuman> ruby is way easy to learn
[23:39] <zoidfarb> Thanks a lot ActionParsnip, that's exactly my problem
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> so's python
[23:39] <Tomas5786> ok so how do i lurn them and do they have GUI
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: np man
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> a gui for what?  you can use any text editor
[23:39]  * ubuntuman loves ruby
[23:39] <zoidfarb> ActionParsnip, so if the .menu is empty how can I re-add entries to it?
[23:39] <Tomas5786> ok thn
[23:39] <Tomas5786> then
[23:39]  * ActionParsnip loves orange soda
[23:39] <zoidfarb> ActionParsnip, or re-generate it or whatever
[23:39] <erUSUL> !info gambas2 | Tomas5786 try this is a visual basic for linux
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: id try and find the default one some place
[23:40] <unop> panserbjorn, you have to scroll down until you find en_cc, en_cc.ISO-9660, en_cc.utf-8, etc (where cc is your country code) .. to select something press SPACEBAR
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: i dont use it so i cant give you mine, maybe someone will pastebin you theirs or you could websearch for one
[23:40] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[23:40] <panserbjorn> unop; how do i know which one is for standard american english?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Funaust: have you installed the driver for it?
[23:40] <zoidfarb> ActionParsnip, that's I'm googling now
[23:40] <Tomas5786> thanks ubottu
[23:41] <ubuntuman> I can get rosetta stone version 2 to run perfectly in wine but version 3 does not work and I don't have the full version of either and work wants me to learn japanese
[23:41] <ubuntuman> is there a free program to help with me here
[23:41] <unop> panserbjorn, en_us.UTF-8  is the default. it should already be selected there
[23:41] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[23:41] <ubuntuman> i cannot purchase version 2 from the website anymore
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-541964.html
[23:42] <panserbjorn> unop: its uninstalling everything now :(
[23:42] <ubuntuman> i love the dust theme for intrepid ibex it is sexy btw!
[23:42] <unop> panserbjorn, yea, don't worry - i told you you can put it all back with this command.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/49864/
[23:42] <zoidfarb> ActionaParsnip, alacarte throws a bunch of errors in the terminal. I'll try reinstalling it
[23:42] <HollywoodJumper> !wine
[23:43] <ubuntuman> no kidding
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: sounds like a step in the right direction
[23:43] <panserbjorn> unop: it gave me the same error, i will pastebin it
[23:43] <ubuntuman> i just wanna learn japanese
[23:43] <Tomas5786> lol thats a good language
[23:43] <unop> !ot
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuman: get some language books
[23:44] <ubuntuman> is there a program for ubuntu or not that i can use to learn japanese
[23:44] <HollywoodJumper> if i am totally new to ubuntu do i wanna mess with wine yet or is it easy for dummies?
[23:44] <panserbjorn> unop: here is the pastebin for it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49866/
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> HollywoodJumper: its fairly simple
[23:44] <ubuntuman> hollywoodjumper i would suggest wine doors if you are a wine newbie
[23:44] <unop> panserbjorn, gimme a sec.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> HollywoodJumper: wine /path/to/program.exe
[23:44] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[23:45] <ubuntuman> wine is cool and needs to be fondled with to get programs working i get a good 90% compatibility with windows programs i need
[23:45] <HollywoodJumper> cool i will try that then thanks
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> HollywoodJumper: some games need some extra configs to perform well
[23:45] <zoidfarb> ActionParsnip, ugh "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/alacarte_0.11.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb: files list file for package `acpid' is missing final newline"
[23:45] <jokoon> Hello, how can I log in a NIS network (I have a login/pass) with ubuntu, its a open suse based network machines
[23:45] <ubuntuman> winedoors is a good program to use with wine
[23:45] <lolmac> hi, jokoon
[23:45] <unop> panserbjorn, ok first, run this command, i'll think of what to do in the meanwhile - http://paste.ubuntu.com/49864/
[23:46] <jokoon> hello lolmac
[23:46] <lolmac> hi, jokoon
[23:46] <ubuntuman> it should be part of wine but sadly it is not
[23:46] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, brb
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> zoidfarb: try sudo apt-get clean then try
[23:46] <HollywoodJumper> lets say for example diablo2 ?
[23:46] <ubuntuman> diablo2 runs perfectly
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> !info winedoors
[23:46] <ubuntuman> just google it
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> !winedoors
[23:46] <ubuntuman> they have a .deb file
[23:46] <dr_willis> ~appdb
[23:46] <emorris> hi, what's the equivalent of zenity for KDE?
[23:46] <dr_willis> !appdb
[23:47] <falcon16> sera a tutt
[23:47] <panserbjorn> unop: installing now
[23:47] <lacy>  how do you install java ?
[23:47] <falcon16> hello
[23:47] <lolmac> hi, falcon16
[23:47] <ubuntuman> it is designed for ubuntu specifically
[23:47] <falcon16> !list
[23:47] <ubuntuman> http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Winedoors is a third-party tool that installs and configures Wine, as well as many Windows programs. Makes light use of native overrides and other workarounds to Wine's built-in implementations
[23:47] <ubuntuman> ty
[23:47] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, when that finishes, run this command.   sudo aptitude reinstall havp
[23:47] <jokoon> !suse
[23:47] <izike> after upgrading to 8.10 i found that fglrx doesnt work, is there anyway to come back to 8.04?
[23:47] <ubuntuman> you may need your windows xp cd
[23:48] <emorris> ActionParsnip: see if you can get something like that added to ubottu
[23:48] <HollywoodJumper> i think it is cool that all you people in here are helping people to use this stuff
[23:48] <jokoon> !linux
[23:48] <panserbjorn> unop: i just got a crash report that says the package "havp 0.86-1build1" failed to install or upgrade
[23:49] <emorris> izike: nope, unless you consider formatting and reinstalling a 'way'
[23:49] <panserbjorn> unop: i have not ran the last cmd you said
[23:49] <panserbjorn> btw :)
[23:49] <izike> emorris:is there anything to do about the fglrx issue?
[23:49] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, try the last command then
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !winedoors is Winedoors is a third-party tool that installs and configures Wine, as well as many Windows programs. Makes light use of native overrides and other workarounds to Wine's built-in implementations
[23:49] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, even with a 15mb connection it is taking a few minutes
[23:49] <panserbjorn> lol
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> requested the add emorris
[23:50] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[23:50] <emorris> izike: hmm, wouldn't know
[23:50] <shameless> Ok, so my wireless on my asus was working just fine until I plugged in a hardwire, and now it's disabled and I can't figure out a way to turn it back on. it's a laptop with an intel wireless ABG card. I think it's a setting somewhere, but i'm not sure how to fix it, can anyone help with that?
[23:50] <emorris> !fglrx
[23:50] <shameless> running 8.04
[23:50] <emorris> izike: ^^
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Funaust: does it show up in lspci or lsusb
[23:51] <emorris> ActionParsnip: cool beans
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> emorris: oh you know it
[23:51] <Funaust> i haven't tried that
[23:51] <lacy> Is  this  the command to get Java ?  sudo apt-get install java
[23:51] <gaintsura> could someone help me figure out why a program is not finding a path? its telling me that it can't find libopenvasnasl.so.1 which is located at /usr/local/lib/ and I've exported the directory to the path variable, rebooted and it still cannot find it
[23:51] <Funaust> but i've done mdiswrapper (sp) and iwconfig etc
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> !java | lacy
[23:52] <Funaust> it effectively sees networks using nmapplet
[23:52] <quang1e> hi guys. if i manually install nvidia's driver from their site. will i have to reinstall each time the kernel is updated?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Funaust: does sudo iwlist show APs?
[23:52] <Funaust> but it will not connect to the network i specify - i've tried setting the network with iwconifg
[23:52] <dr_willis> quang1e,  yes
[23:52] <gaintsura> quang1e: yes
[23:52] <emorris> what is the zenity equivalent for KDE?
[23:52] <gaintsura> dr_willis: =P
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !zenity
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !info zenity
[23:52] <Funaust> define APs - it shows me access points
[23:52] <quang1e> dr_willis, gaintsura: even if it's a minor security patch?!
[23:53] <Infinite88> Is there a way to do a complete backup of your system, say that if your system crashed for some reason or you had to do a hd wipe, could you preserve all the apps and settings somehow and load it back up?
[23:53] <dr_willis> quang1e, try it and see I guess..
[23:53] <gaintsura> quang1e: any manual install usually requires reconfigure after kernel update
[23:53] <dr_willis> Infinite88,  there are ways to 'clone' a system to dvd disk - to restore it totally...
[23:53] <panserbjorn> unop: after running that command i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49867/
[23:53] <quang1e> i just want to try out the CUDA sdk... more difficult than i thought it'd be :(
[23:53] <seancron> How can I enable the webcam built into my Dell SP2008WP monitor?
[23:54] <Infinite88> dr_willis, would you happen to have a link of some sort?
[23:54] <dr_willis> !backup | Infinite88
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> emorris: kdialog
[23:54] <Infinite88> dr_willis, thanks
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> !kdialog | emorris
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> !info kdialog | emorris
[23:55] <TheSpawn> when i try to play music i get an error saying invalid argument
[23:55] <emorris> ActionParsnip: do you happen to know whether it is drop-in compatible
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> emorris: kdialog --msgbox "Your message here"
[23:55] <tlg> hi to everyone
[23:55] <tlg> i'm newbie in ubuntu
[23:55] <Funaust> ActionParsnip - Yes i see the access point
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> emorris: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-48407.html
[23:56] <unop> panserbjorn, do you really want to keep this havp antivirus thing? as - it's not behaving properly
[23:56] <Funaust> ActionParsnip i get the mac address and everything, BUT i don't see a link activity - its shown as 0
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Funaust: have you set the essid in the interfaces files as well as the security?
[23:56] <panserbjorn> unop: i didnt know what it was, to be honest, no lets scrap it if we can
[23:57] <tlg> can i ask a question too?
[23:57] <Funaust> yes ActionParsnip i have done essid/password and tried all variations of restricted/open
[23:57] <panserbjorn> unop: i just started getting the error msg and could not update
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Funaust: you could rename the file you setup then restart networking, this would allow you to use a config tool to setup the connection
[23:57] <gaintsura> !ask | tlg
[23:57] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, run this then.    sudo dpkg --force-all -P havp
[23:57] <panserbjorn> unop; kk
[23:57] <tlg> well, i just installed aMSN and try to set up my camera settings
[23:57] <Aero232> hello, I plugged in my ps2 keyboard into a laptop USB port using a ps2 to USB adapter.  It sometimes works, but I have to take it out and plug it back in a million times and/or restart the computer until it works (running latest hardy)  anyone know of a way to diagnose the problem? maybe restart usb services to detect the usb keyboard?
[23:57] <lolmac> hi, Aero232
[23:58] <tlg> but i dont see any cam display...
[23:58] <tlg> and i got error when i finished the wizard of sound and cam
[23:58] <drhe|lap> how can i get to that main system settings manager?? i think in kubuntu the command was "kcontrol" what is it in ubuntu?
[23:58] <drhe|lap> i am having sound issues.
[23:59] <unop> drhe|lap, gnome-control-center
[23:59] <drhe|lap> i think cause i got 2 sound cards. onboard and pci.
[23:59] <markekeller> QUESTION: Does anyone know what package is the gnome panel contained in?
[23:59] <gluonman> I wouldn't ask this here if folks in #vbox were talking, but I'm having problems getting my Windows XP .vdi to read my installation CD for Visual Studio. Virtual Box says that the CD drive is mounted, but it's not reading the CD. What do I do?
[23:59] <markekeller> I lost mine somehow, and would like ti back.
[23:59] <panserbjorn> unop: it will not let me apparently. here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49868/
[23:59] <unop> !info gnome-panel | markekeller
[23:59] <Aero232> hello
[23:59] <lolmac> hi, Aero232
[23:59] <Aero232> hi
[23:59] <lolmac> hi, Aero232
[23:59] <markekeller> Thanks, unop.


[08:39] <adeuring> good morning
[09:41] <LPCIBot> Project devel build (347): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 30 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/347/
[14:30] <LPCIBot> Project db-devel build (261): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 34 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/261/
[14:50] <gary_poster> jelmer: ping?
[14:52] <gary_poster> jelmer: unping
[14:54] <jelmer> gary_poster: hi :-)
[14:55] <gary_poster> hi jelmer :-) sorry, I'm chr and didn't know the answer to a soyuz question, but someone else stepped in
[16:31] <sinzui> jml. sorry for missing our standard meeting time. My computer needed a stern whack.
[18:17] <lifeless> good morning launchpad
[18:20] <jkakar> Good morning lifeless, Happy New Year! :)
[18:30] <lifeless> hi jkakar !
[18:35] <lifeless> [18:35] <lifeless>     Hard / Soft  Page ID
[18:35] <lifeless>       29 / 3980  Archive:+index
[18:35] <lifeless>       29 /  170  BugTask:+index
[18:35] <lifeless>       22 /  239  Distribution:+bugs
[18:35] <lifeless>       12 /  151  POFile:+translate
[18:35] <lifeless>       10 /   17  DistroSeriesLanguage:+index
[18:35] <lifeless>        8 /   95  ProjectGroupSet:CollectionResource:#project_groups
[18:35] <lifeless>        7 /  235  Distribution:+bugtarget-portlet-bugfilters-stats
[18:35] <lifeless>        6 /    4  ProjectGroup:+milestones
[18:35] <lifeless>        5 /    5  Archive:+copy-packages
[18:35] <lifeless>        5 /    2  Product:+filebug-show-similar
[19:39] <lifeless> sinzui: did you have a good break?
[19:50] <sinzui> lifeless I suppose so. I have not completed updating gedit-developer-plugins to libpeas and gobject-introspected, but my version is running on my natty alpha one desktop
[19:51] <sinzui> Once I upgraded to the alpha, making my primary tools work became an imperative. I think this means they will ship with quickly by default by the beta release
[19:52] <lifeless> flacoste: hi
[19:52] <lifeless> flacoste: are we talking today ?
[19:52] <flacoste> hi lifeless!
[19:52] <flacoste> we are
[19:52] <lifeless> kk
[20:07] <flacoste> lifeless: https://lpstats.canonical.com/graphs/PPR/20100104/20110104/
[20:20] <lifeless> https://lpstats.canonical.com/graphs/PPR/20101228/20110104/
[20:25] <lifeless> http://newrelic.com/
[20:26] <lifeless> http://omniti.com/video/noit-oscon-demo ?
[21:52] <flacoste> lifeless: http://launchpad.leankitkanban.com/Boards/Show/12720553
[21:58] <jml> sinzui: I'm off all week
[21:58] <lifeless> jml: doh
[21:58] <lifeless> jml: I was hoping for a chat
[21:59] <wgrant> gary_poster: Hi.
[21:59] <lifeless> flacoste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=feature-flags
[22:02] <jml> lifeless: maybe we can work something out
[22:02] <gary_poster> wgrant: hi.  (if you are responding to my ping, someone was asking for soyuz help and I was flailing for help since I didn't see bigjools around.  someone else replied at the time.  thank you)
[22:03] <wgrant> gary_poster: I was actually around a few minutes after that, but decided that 2am wasn't a good time to be working.
[22:03] <gary_poster> wgrant: lol, I agree
[22:04] <wgrant> gary_poster: I'm actually wondering if there's any reason I shouldn't copy bzr-pqm and bzr-tarmacland in the PPA to natty.
[22:04] <wgrant> Because your new launchpad-dependencies is uninstallable.
[22:04] <gary_poster> wgrant: argh!  should have thought of that.  no, there is no reason not to copy them (with binaries)
[22:05]  * wgrant does so.
[22:05] <wgrant> Thanks.
[22:05] <gary_poster> thank you wgrant
[22:05] <wgrant> Hmm, although they each have separate lucid and maverick uploads.
[22:05] <wgrant> Should I use the recipe, or just copy the maverick ones?
[22:06] <gary_poster> I'm pretty sure copying will work, but Ursinha or matsubara-afk can you offer any insight?
[22:07] <wgrant> It should work. And if it doesn't, the new version will be newer, so it will be easily fixable.
[22:07]  * wgrant does it.
[22:07] <gary_poster> +1
[22:09] <Ursinha>  not really, I think copying should be enough..
[22:35] <lifeless> jml: well ping me your morning or something
[22:47] <lifeless> wgrant: ok, so Archive:+index
[22:48] <lifeless> its tagged for stub; suggest grabbing him this arvo
[22:48] <lifeless> I think he looked and said (roughly) 'fugly queries'
[22:48] <wgrant> Yeah, that's about what I recall.
[22:48] <wgrant> I will grab him.
[22:49] <lifeless> it may be worth changing it from prejoin to using DRS and doing a couple of simple serial queries.
[22:50] <wgrant> sinzui: Hi.
[22:50] <sinzui> hello
[22:51] <wgrant> sinzui: I just saw bug #696954.
[22:51] <_mup_> Bug #696954: Allow persons in project roles to access private bugs <disclosure> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/696954 >
[22:51] <wgrant> Surely embargoed security bugs should not be seen by everyone?
[22:52] <sinzui> I am not certain of that. But I have said before that we are working on privacy issues, not security issues
[22:52] <sinzui> wgrant: I do not have a strong opinion about who should see security bugs.
[22:52] <wgrant> sinzui: Well, at least for Ubuntu the bug supervisor *must not*.
[22:53] <sinzui> At this time, I think security bugs are only seen by subscribers. There is plenty of opportunity to shoot yourself in the foot by unsubscribing.
[22:53] <wgrant> Sure.
[22:53] <wgrant> But that's how it has to be.
[22:54] <wgrant> Unless you add an implicit security contact subscription.
[22:54] <wgrant> Which might be OK once we have anti-subscriptions.
[22:54] <lifeless> we had anti subscriptions
[22:54] <lifeless> they were removed
[22:54] <wgrant> Did we?
[22:54] <sinzui> I believe there are 50 private Lp bugs that we cannot see
[22:55] <wgrant> I don't recall there ever being anti-subscriptions.
[22:55] <sinzui> wgrant: I am fine with not showing security bugs to drivers and bug supervisors. I think owners need to see them because the role is rarely delegated
[22:56] <wgrant> Bug contacts could initially unsubscribe, but that's because there were no implicit subscriptions.
[22:56] <wgrant> sinzui: For Ubuntu that is probably still a really bad idea.
[22:56] <lifeless> well
[22:56] <lifeless> there are some nuances here
[22:56] <lifeless> firstly, shared namespaces.
[22:56] <sinzui> We should not trust the owner? maybe we should not report a bug in their project then. I expect owners to fix their work
[22:56] <lifeless> secondly, CVE legal requirements
[22:56] <wgrant> sinzui: Embargoes.
[22:56] <wgrant> As lifeless says.
[22:57] <wgrant> The security team is to have access to those.
[22:57] <wgrant> Not ~ubuntu-drivers.
[22:57] <cody-somerville> What about making it configurable? ie. you could have a matrix, roles vs. bug type
[22:57] <wgrant> Launchpad seems to hate configurability.
[22:57] <wgrant> But that would indeed be optimal.
[22:57] <lifeless> cody-somerville: bite your fingers
[22:58] <cody-somerville> but that'll hurt :-(
[22:58] <sinzui> Ubuntu should fix itself or raise their issues as top priority in stakeholders meetings. making a driver team the owner is just wrong. If they are note really owners, them make the real ownes the owner
[22:58] <wgrant> sinzui: It's arguable that even the project's owners should not know.
[22:59] <wgrant> Although I guess they can change the security contact anyway.
[22:59] <wgrant> It would be nice to still have separation.
[22:59] <cody-somerville> If permission stuff could be changed on the fly instead of hard coded they would probably be more open to trying to get things as intended. right now people are finding all kinds of creative ways to get launchpad to do what they want (or as close to it).
[22:59] <lifeless> so
[23:00] <lifeless> we have a requirement from mark to minimise variation between projects in LP
[23:00] <wgrant> That is going to limit adoption. Because Ubuntu is not other projects.
[23:00] <lifeless> so that once someone learns *lp* they can predict its behaviour for ubuntu, zope, launchpad itself etc etc etc
[23:00] <cody-somerville> wgrant, I disagree. There has to be a buck stops here type position that has access to everything. You don't want to get into a scenario where no one can access something anymore because no one with the required role exists anymore.
[23:01] <lifeless> sinzui: I suggest that 'security team' as a role with implicit subscription is all thats needed, no ?
[23:01] <sinzui> wgrant: the project owner can *choose* to have full access simply by they control who in in the security  role. Private bugs will only have 1 bug target. So when the owner sees a count of bugs higher than listed, he will cease control
[23:01] <lifeless> this doesn't help the shared namespace problem
[23:01] <lifeless> but we were perhaps on crack doing that right from the beginning
[23:01] <wgrant> sinzui: But changing the security contact is a very explicit action. I don't think that giving them implicit access to the security bugs is a fantastic idea.
[23:02] <cody-somerville> lifeless, I think the intention there might have been more like not letting them decide the layout of the 'portlets' (or w/e you call them) on the project page and not intentionally cripling the usefulness of Launchpad by always having to have the lowest common denominator when it comes to functionality.
[23:02] <wgrant> +1
[23:02] <lifeless> cody-somerville: no, thats not it
[23:02] <sinzui> I think a user is a security role gets to see all security bugs. The subscription is only needed for email. That is not required though because th security team could have a structural subscription
[23:03] <wgrant> sinzui: True. One could have a security-only structural subscription.
[23:03] <lifeless> cody-somerville: this has been discussed a lot previously; its about behaviour not presentation
[23:03] <wgrant> So all we really need is for structural subscriptions to work for private bugs, detach viewing rights from subscriptions, and allow structural subscriptions based on the security flag.
[23:04] <lifeless> cody-somerville: our *job* is to make the lcd very powerful and find ways to solve the tensions present
[23:04] <sinzui> cody-somerville: But I think most of us agree that the project page is designed to be useless for people who need to use it
[23:04] <cody-somerville> we have to be pragmatic here.
[23:05] <cody-somerville> The same permission policy for all projects just isn't going to work.
[23:05] <lifeless> cody-somerville: it has for 6 years and we have plenty of adoption.
[23:05]  * cody-somerville laughs.
[23:05] <wgrant> FSVO plenty.
[23:05] <wgrant> And FSVO adoption.
[23:05] <lifeless> Look, reframing the problem is one route forward.
[23:05] <lifeless> I'm not ruling it out - thats for jml, as proxy-mark, to do.
[23:06] <lifeless> What I am doing is telling you *how* its been communicated to me previously.
[23:06] <cody-somerville> I understand that.
[23:06] <lifeless> I will say that just because its hard to do doesn't mean its impossible or unvaluable.
[23:07] <sinzui> We are being asked to make it clear who does have access, and to make it simple to grant someone access to all of a project. We do not need to concern ourselves with a lot of details to be successful. We can continue to limit who can see the security issues knowing that an owner can always choose to know, and that it will be common knowledge how to choose.
[23:08] <lifeless> indeed
[23:08] <lifeless> so - for instance - showing a 'has access' portlet in addition to the subscribers
[23:08] <lifeless> I *do* think that the security contact should act as an implicit subscription not a template subscription
[23:09] <cody-somerville> +1
[23:09] <cody-somerville> btw, is there another web application that does this really well that could be a role model?
[23:09] <lifeless> not that I've seen
[23:09] <wgrant> The only template subscription should be the reporter.
[23:10] <wgrant> That's easy to do once access is separate.
[23:10] <lifeless> wgrant: it won't be separate
[23:10] <lifeless> wgrant: subscription will still imply access; it will be additive
[23:10] <wgrant> Right.
[23:14] <lifeless> flacoste: we have a lot of sev 0 rt tickets
[23:16] <lifeless> flacoste: https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/ReleaseFeaturesWhenTheyAreDone#preview updated
[23:32] <flacoste> poolie: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC
[23:33] <flacoste> poolie: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Collaboration