[00:00] <bkerensa> heh
[00:05] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: pong
[00:07] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: the site seems to be down
[00:08] <bkerensa> mhall119: the cloud failed ;p
[00:51] <balloons> so close to finish the editing.. everything I tried on quantal failed fyi.. audio/video stuff quantal and me are crash city
[00:51] <balloons> moving files to the precise box.. things seem much more stable.. fingers crossed
[01:13] <MrChrisDruif> It IS a LTS release for a reason, right balloons ?
[03:50] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: I was wondering if I could use the on air account
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: for sure! would you mind a pm?
[03:50] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: tomorrow?
[03:50] <mhall119> I'm off to bed
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> sure :)
[07:57] <bkerensa> gnight
[10:51] <popey> jcastro, can you copy the content over to ubuntuonair.com?
[12:38] <jcastro> popey: yep one moment
[12:41] <jcastro> popey: YGM
[12:43] <popey> jcastro, i messed up dns, changed it earlier, still rippling, sorry
[12:43] <jcastro> k
[12:43] <jcastro> I just sent you the raw html you can paste in easy peasy
[12:43] <popey> ta
[12:44] <popey> jcastro, try http://ubuntuone.com/wp-admin/index.php ?
[12:45] <popey> the content you posted doesn't have the embedded video
[12:45] <jcastro> We couldn't find that page
[12:45] <popey> when?
[12:45] <jcastro> popey: no it's the thing underneath
[12:45] <jcastro> oh, you don't have the embed either?
[12:45] <popey> er
[12:45] <popey> not ubuntuone
[12:45] <popey> heh
[12:45] <jcastro> let me just get you all the html
[12:45] <popey> yeah, pastebin it or something
[12:45] <popey> the dns was messed I only changed it ~4 hours ago
[12:46] <popey> so you wouldn't have been able to get to wp-admin, but can now
[12:47] <jcastro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1121355/
[12:47] <jcastro> ah, you can chop the bottom bits off
[12:47] <jcastro> 26 and below can be dropped
[12:48] <jcastro> oh, while you are in there, you can also drop the top line
[12:48] <jcastro> the "Next Hangout" part
[12:53] <popey> ok
[12:55] <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/ look okay?
[12:56] <popey> <IP_ADDRESS> should be ip in dns
[12:56] <jcastro> slickamundo!
[12:56] <popey> biab
[13:04] <AlanBell> how do you do the slick name overlays?
[13:25] <jcastro> it's an addon
[13:26] <jcastro> lower something-something
[13:26] <jcastro> it's in their little store thing when you do a hangout
[13:27] <AlanBell> lower third, pretty cool
[13:27] <AlanBell> that does make it look a lot more professional
[13:27] <jcastro> yeah
[14:16] <jcastro> mhall119: hey, so the help lens is ready to go
[14:16] <jcastro> it just needs to go into universe
[14:18] <mhall119> cool, has a bug been filed for getting it in?
[14:18] <jcastro> no clue
[14:43] <jcastro> mhall119: ah nice, I didn't even remember we had a mail thread for the lens, <3
[14:59] <jcastro> popey: why does that guy run a linux website if he hates linux?
[14:59] <jcastro> I mean, it could at least be funny like linuxhater
[15:00] <popey> heh
[15:00] <mhall119> what guy?
[15:01] <jcastro> this muktware site
[15:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 all set?
[15:01] <dpm> jono, yep
[15:01] <jcastro> it's like one minute you suck for not being FSF-compliant, and then the next it's like "Netflix doesn't work, you suck."
[15:01] <mhall119> yup
[15:01] <jcastro> pick one!
[15:02] <mhall119> jcastro: ah,yeah, that site does seem to have some odd split personality
[15:02] <jcastro> popey: it has to be the same guy, he's the only guy who thinks it's normal to sync your phone/tablet via a cable in 2012.
[15:02] <popey> heh
[15:02] <jono> dpm, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/85670cd7ee5775c75beaa80c0065eb3189c5b494?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:00] <jono> balloons, can we talk when I drive out to my meeting in about an hour?
[17:01] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: available for a PM?
[17:01] <balloons> jono, sure sure
[17:01] <jono> thanks balloons, I just need to wrap some things up here before I head out
[17:01] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: sure
[17:01] <balloons> I'm sapping my upload bandwidth right now
[17:15] <s-fox> hello :)
[17:25] <AlanBell> come and see the Ubuntu UK podcast studio https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/226b753eeff113fc0d04796f28668efdf61ea7f4?authuser=0&hl=en#
[17:31] <jono> balloons, heading out, will call soon
[17:31] <jono> mhall119, jcastro back later
[17:31] <balloons> jono, k..
[17:35] <balloons> wondershaper is awesome :-)
[17:54] <IdleOne> bkerensa: plz2give me instructions on how I get a cool Ubuntu tag for hangouts?
[17:54] <IdleOne> banner* thingy
[17:54] <bkerensa> IdleOne: use Lower Third Hangout
[17:55] <IdleOne> huh?
[17:55] <IdleOne> oh, ok.
[17:56] <IdleOne> where do i get the logo?
[17:58] <bkerensa> IdleOne: for Ubuntu logo you can download it off google images
[17:58] <bkerensa> its cof png
[18:04] <IdleOne> very silly question that was
[18:04] <IdleOne> :)
[19:04] <jcastro> hey bkerensa
[19:04] <jcastro> random question
[19:04] <jcastro> what's up with the sumo stuff?
[19:04] <jcastro> technoviking: ping
[19:04] <jcastro> or philballew
[19:05] <bkerensa> jcastro: Trying to figure out what is preventing it from installing on 12.04
[19:05] <jcastro> ;_;
[19:05] <bkerensa> so far three people have tried and it just is not installing properly
[19:06] <bkerensa> Me, mhall119 and imbrandon (I believe?)
[19:06] <jcastro> WHAT. No CHARM!?!
[19:06] <jcastro> :)
[19:06] <bkerensa> I have a instance spinning up right now so I am going to take another crack at it
[19:06]  * imbrandon looks up
[19:06] <bkerensa> jcastro: one cannot confidently make a charm if they cannot do a install manually first
[19:06] <imbrandon> huh ?
[19:07] <jcastro> bkerensa: have we tried flaming nigelb?
[19:07] <imbrandon> ohh yea, what he said :)
[19:07] <bkerensa> why would we flame nigelb?
[19:07] <jcastro> bkerensa: it would make you feel better I bet?
[19:07] <balloons> This video has been removed because it is too long -- what gives youtube?
[19:09] <philballew> Sumo is pretty cool. I have not seen much movement.
[19:10] <jcastro> hey philballew
[19:10] <philballew> hey jcastro whats up!
[19:10] <jcastro> I am looking for a PHP developer for SSo for the forums
[19:10] <jcastro> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/07/31/ubuntu-forums-needs-single-sign-on-again/
[19:10] <marcoceppi> jcastro: I thought that was fixed
[19:10] <jcastro> can we put out a sticky for this?
[19:11] <jcastro> basically we have all the code opened now
[19:11]  * marcoceppi reads
[19:11] <philballew> Ill see if I can do it, and also email my php dev friends.
[19:12] <jcastro> nod
[19:12] <imbrandon> jcastro / marcoceppi : if you dont take it on or need a hand i can help this evening for sure
[19:12] <imbrandon> like in oh +4.5 hours
[19:12] <imbrandon> or so
[19:12] <jcastro> imbrandon: nginx subordinate first pls.
[19:12] <imbrandon> its done
[19:12] <imbrandon> i just need to add a maintainer and resubit
[19:13] <imbrandon> but its on LP
[19:13] <imbrandon> :)
[19:13] <bkerensa> updates on HP Cloud are Sloooooow
[19:13] <imbrandon> bkerensa: use my mirrors
[19:13] <bkerensa> they need mirros like AWS
[19:13] <bkerensa> imbrandon: link?
[19:13] <jcastro> imbrandon: push that badboy, juan is reviewing today
[19:13] <imbrandon> half sec
[19:13] <jcastro> PUSH FAST
[19:13] <imbrandon> jcastro: kk
[19:14] <imbrandon> bkerensa: http://az-1.hpcloud.mirror.websitedevops.com/ubuntu
[19:14] <bkerensa> kk
[19:14] <imbrandon> precise and quantal, all pockets
[19:15] <bkerensa> mhall119: working with sumo dev to try and resolve the 12.04 issues
[19:15] <imbrandon> precise precise-updates precise-backports precise-security , and same thing with quantal, as well as deb and deb-src
[19:17] <bkerensa> jcastro: I found the issue with SUMO... funny enough someone from OSU OSL pointed me to a helpful manual
[19:17] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:17] <bkerensa> well
[19:17] <bkerensa> a workaround
[19:18] <jcastro> can we still blame nigel though?
[19:18] <cjohnston> yes
[19:18] <bkerensa> sure
[19:18] <jcastro> excellent
[19:19] <bkerensa> jcastro: do we know how to get reverse dns with hpcloud?
[19:19] <bkerensa> do they support it yet?
[19:20] <jcastro> huh?
[19:20] <bkerensa> rdns
[19:21] <bkerensa> PTR Records
[19:21] <jcastro> https://community.hpcloud.com/question/462/reverse-dns
[19:21] <jcastro> is the best I can find
[19:21] <jcastro> I didn't know they didn't do reverse dns
[19:22] <bkerensa> yeah thats pretty lame :P
[19:22] <jcastro> is this for sending mail?
[19:22] <bkerensa> yes
[19:22] <imbrandon> ewww
[19:22] <imbrandon> dont
[19:22] <pleia2> jcastro: thanks for that blog post :)
[19:22] <jcastro> do they not have some API or something or some partner to do it?
[19:22] <jcastro> pleia2: which one?
[19:22] <imbrandon> jcastro: yea
[19:23] <jcastro> lol, .25 cents a mail I am sure.
[19:23] <pleia2> jcastro: openid, the poor forums admins are spending huge huge amounts of time fighting spam every day, we really need this upgrade
[19:23] <pleia2> (new spam tools are only in 4.x)
[19:23] <bkerensa> did Canonical not hire a PHP Developer to finish the upgrade?
[19:23] <imbrandon> bkerensa: please please please use like mailchimp or ses or something else ... please :) ( i agree that no rdns is lame, but please dont run your own mailserver )
[19:24] <jcastro> bkerensa: no
[19:24] <bkerensa> bkerensa: SUMO has mailing capabilities
[19:24] <jcastro> our ISD team sort of tried, but PHP/vbulletin isn't really in our bag of tricks.
[19:24] <imbrandon> pleia2: i'm on it this afternoon :)
[19:24] <pleia2> imbrandon: <3
[19:24] <jcastro> he's on it after he submits that charm
[19:24] <jcastro> is what he meant to say. :)
[19:25] <imbrandon> i just deployed it to test a final time then should be back in the queue :)
[19:25] <jcastro> AWWW YEAH, that's how we roll.
[19:25] <imbrandon> jcastro: are you wanting to use it or something ?
[19:25] <jcastro> new charms, new forums, new wiki.
[19:25] <jcastro> running spam relay servers on hp cloud ....
[19:25] <imbrandon> hahaha
[19:25] <jcastro> mostly I want to demo it
[19:25] <imbrandon> ahh,
[19:26] <jcastro> you and marco keeping all the goodies in ~yourname
[19:26] <imbrandon> got two more production sites on juju now, as well as some kick ass jujube things comming today too
[19:26] <jcastro> had to pull our last demo from ~foo .... booo!
[19:26] <bkerensa> jcastro: they would only be spam relays if they were not setup properly
[19:26] <bkerensa> ;p
[19:27] <jcastro> Last time I had to touch a mail server .... hmmm, 2003 I think?
[19:27] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:27] <imbrandon> jcastro: i deploy everything from local: anyhow after spamaps convinced me thats the best way, and just charm getall blah to update the local repo now and then
[19:27] <snap-l> Also, certain mail providers will block misconfigured mail servers
[19:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: and now you let third parties own it and retain it forever
[19:27] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:27] <jcastro> yeah but it doesn't count until it's in the charm store.
[19:27] <snap-l> Comcast is the worst offender for this
[19:27] <jcastro> same reason your program isn't "finished" until it's in the software center, etc.
[19:27] <imbrandon> bkerensa: no there is a major diff between storage and smtp / ses providers
[19:29] <bkerensa> heh
[19:29] <imbrandon> bkerensa: btw http://sendgrid.com/ has a free level and is pretty awesom plus a cool api
[19:30] <imbrandon> and if thats not you cup o tea SES is pretty sweet and cheap too, but for god sakes get into this melinium and dont run a smtp server yourself
[19:31] <imbrandon> but those two plus mailchip i've personally used/use and can say are rocking, depending ont the scope of need
[19:31] <greg-g> wait, I'm confused, just because there are commercial entities that do a service means that no one should ever do that service themselves again?
[19:31] <bkerensa> lol
[19:31] <snap-l> greg-g: If you want to set up those services (I run my own server) then feel free
[19:31] <bkerensa> imbrandon: so one our our loco guys works at one of the largest mail providers in the modern world and after the stories I have heard of how they handle  mail of consumer and enterprise customers
[19:31] <bkerensa> idk
[19:32] <greg-g> yeah, I use self-hosted email every day without issue
[19:32] <imbrandon> greg-g: no not at all, i;'m just saying knowing for what bk needs and the levelev of effort for him to put into it
[19:32] <snap-l> but if you're doing mass-mailings, it's probably better to get someone external
[19:32] <imbrandon> that its not worth it
[19:32] <imbrandon> but someone else or other use case it might be
[19:32] <greg-g> imbrandon: that's a different statement than what you were making above, then ;)
[19:32] <snap-l> Getting a SPF record right is an afternoon's work.
[19:32] <bkerensa> "SendGrid will have the right to collect, extract, compile, synthesize, and analyze non-personally identifiable data or information"
[19:32] <imbrandon> greg-g: only because i hyper targeted it to bk already so i knew my audiance :)
[19:32] <greg-g> heh, fair
[19:33] <greg-g> no out of context quoting imbrandon, you hear? ;)
[19:33] <imbrandon> hehe
[19:34] <imbrandon> and take no offince to that bkerensa as reading back what i just wrote looks kinda downer , i'd say exactly the same thing to/about  myself in this circumstance :) taken any other way than just a helpfull advice i'd take myself as well is not intended :)
[19:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: so remember the ppa I had to remove from subway at OSCON for node?
[19:35] <jcastro> yeah
[19:35] <bkerensa> well I guess SUMO only works with the ppa version
[19:35] <bkerensa> heh
[19:35] <jcastro> chris lea's ppa
[19:35] <bkerensa> go figure
[19:35] <jcastro> welcome to node.js!
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> What+
[19:35] <imbrandon> heh node js is very version picky
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> ?
[19:35] <imbrandon> but i loves it :)
[19:37] <imbrandon> jcastro: as long as you keep in the same series you SHOULD be fine, e.g. a 0.4.x node app / 0.6.x node app / 0.8.x node app ... etc also node like rvm/ruby or python etc etc can have multi version installed side by side easily
[19:40] <bkerensa> why are they not backwards compatible?
[19:41] <imbrandon> api changes, its a well known way to do things, just like the kernel 2.4 to 2.6 etc etc
[19:56] <bkerensa> jcastro: whats my limitations on instances for free? I wanna spawn up a dedicated instance for database
[20:07] <bkerensa> MySQL-Python wont install =/
[20:16] <jcastro> bkerensa: anything within reason
[20:16] <jcastro> anything that helps the project ftw.
[20:16] <jcastro> but if you need like 1000k instances or something you need to ask first (ask them not me)
[20:33] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> hi, czajkowski!
[21:04] <daker> PHP madness...
[21:08] <mhall119> daker: that's the only way PHP works :)
[21:16] <philballew> bkerensa, if you need help with sumo, I can do some sumo stuff tomorrow
[21:19] <bkerensa> sumo is up
[21:19] <bkerensa> just going to do some minor tweaking on styles and next week or so we will begin testing
[21:20] <philballew> alright, ping or text me then or something
[21:37]  * mhall119 is off to make dinner
[21:39]  * bkerensa is off to install a SSD and migrate data
[23:15] <cjohnston> bkerensa: get them to hook me up with an ssd as well ;-)


[01:16] <kaushal> Hi
[01:16] <kaushal> is there a way to find speed of Tataphoton ppp0 logical link ?
[01:16] <kaushal> http://www.ibeast.com/content/tools/band-calc.asp
[11:40] <head_victim> sagaci: see your request? I bumped dpm for it ;)
[11:40] <sagaci> yeah, just got home and saw the thread, pretty good it's all going through
[11:40] <sagaci> *unlike our LoCo reapplication*
[11:41] <head_victim> Yeah, he asked me to +1 it and he's put it through. It may day a couple of days to come throuhg apparently though
[11:41] <sagaci> that's fine
[11:57] <head_victim> Oh and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/LocalizedImageContacts might be interesting
[12:34] <sagaci> looking forward to it all
[13:40] <sagaci> head_victim, fyi, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-translations-en-au-1204
[13:43] <head_victim> I wouldn't merge enAU to enUS, maybe enGB?
[13:43] <head_victim> Ohhh you mean the 2 enAU for launchpad and Ubuntu
[13:44] <head_victim> I think the best way to achieve that might be to make one a subteam of the other.
[13:44] <head_victim> I'd have a chat to dpm or someone else in -translators to see what other teams do
[13:45] <sagaci> yeah, I was going to go to the mailing list and/or -translators since it's not really something that should be light-switched
[13:47] <sagaci> but at least with a blueprint, we have history and discussions logged and properly ordered
[13:50] <head_victim> Yep
[13:51] <head_victim> It would be interesting to hear how other groups do it
[14:05] <head_victim> sagaci: I'm not 100% on how blueprints operate. If I were to add comments/brainstorming would I add it to the details or the whiteboard?
[14:08] <sagaci> just sent a feedback request, probably not exactly what you wanted... tbh I'm not 100% on them either but it gives a good place to set out/up the main features and targets, whilst the wiki (todo) is when the nuts and bolts, etc goes... if I'm not mistaken
[14:09] <head_victim> Hmm, milestone of 11.10beta2 might need adjustmennt
[14:09] <sagaci> yeah it will, that's just the latest at the moment
[14:10] <head_victim> What's the whiteboard part where it says "ubuntu-rc, kubuntu-alpha, cli-beta" ?
[14:11] <sagaci> I've got that as the status of each of the sections, ubuntu packages are rc or close to it, kubuntu is still work-in-progress and there's decent progresss on the cli tools
[14:11] <sagaci> so that'll be the progress as of beta2, roughly
[14:12] <sagaci> probably should be proposed as a separate blueprint but just wanted to register one to get the gist of how to "drive" them
[14:13] <head_victim> Ahhh that make sense
[14:14] <sagaci> I need to put a lot more thought into the wiki page for the nut and bolt spec but i'm just trying to get something out there
[14:14] <head_victim> Definitely a good idea.
[14:15] <sagaci> looks like I'll get a handful for the sydney release meet
[14:15] <head_victim> Nice, I wish I could subscribe to events so I get updates on them
[14:15] <sagaci> I mean there's 2 people I've never heard of on loco.u.c potentially coming. Not getting hopes up but hopefully we'll get 5 or something together
[14:15] <sagaci> good idea
[14:16] <head_victim> Always a good thing. Make sure you take photos
[14:16] <sagaci> noted
[14:17] <head_victim> I'll be announcing the Brisbane one on Monday.
[14:17] <sagaci> yep, Brisbane has had parties for the last few, yeah?
[14:18] <head_victim> Yep, it's pretty much a case of it happens just the attendees vary.
[14:20] <sagaci> as I've noted on the Syd event page, wifi would be good but it's pretty much a byo unless the venue provides
[14:21] <head_victim> Well if you wanted to stream any of it let me know and I'll give you the login details for the ustream site.
[14:22] <sagaci> will keep in mind, would only be able to do audio, maybe push out a photo/g+ update
[14:22] <head_victim> Lan party at my house. I just bought http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190573992455?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[14:23] <head_victim> I wanted a cheap switch to do some playing with on a separate network to the main one. That was the cheapest rackmount ebay had to offer :D
[14:24] <sagaci> 48-port :/
[14:24] <head_victim> Yeah, I wanted a rackmount one and that was the cheapest that came up under the search. I'm picking it up tomorrow.
[14:25] <sagaci> 18 bucks not too bad
[14:25] <head_victim> So basically I have have 100 wired devices in my house all connected now. Multitudes more wirelessly.
[14:25] <head_victim> can have*
[14:26] <sagaci> how many wired devices do you have? <10?
[14:26] <head_victim> Yeah about that
[14:27] <head_victim> I couldn't find anything cheaper :/
[14:36] <sagaci> can you just add things to the blueprint via the whiteboard yet?
[14:37] <head_victim> Added, see if that's what you mean
[14:37] <sagaci> yeppers
[14:39] <sagaci> might be an idea to add short-form date along with the message
[14:39] <sagaci> just looking at other blueprints
[14:39] <head_victim> Yeah I was just looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cd-localization
[14:40] <sagaci> because you don't seem to get an email when someone adds something which clears the noise but is good to know when the suggestion was made
[14:40] <head_victim> You aren't subscribed to it
[14:40] <head_victim> If you sub you get all the updates ;)
[14:41] <sagaci> assumed I'd be subscribed to it when I made the team :/
[14:41] <sagaci> err, blueprint
[14:42] <head_victim> Apparently not, I had to sub to it despite being listed as the approver
[14:56] <sagaci> anyway, I'm off for the night. Have to put more thought/effort into this. Ciao


[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83132 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83132
[12:41] <crimsun> I find it difficult to believe that FF is causing these system freezes
[12:42] <crimsun> is it trampling something in ram? (stacksmashing would be caught)
[12:42] <crimsun> is it triggering an X driver boog?
[12:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i won't mock biology, just realize we physicist created the A bomb :)
[12:50] <crimsun> you mean the mathematicians, but whatever.
[01:26] <gnomefreak> im willing to bet bug 83132 beryl is causing the freeze. it does it with latest beryl :)
[01:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83132 in firefox "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83132
[01:27] <gnomefreak> reboot isnt needed hes just impatiant(sp)
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83171 in firefox (main) "www.sony.com bug when using the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83171
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83194 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when switching video mode at filecabi.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83194
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83197 in firefox (main) "crash on wine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83197
[01:33] <gnomefreak> guys we need a few :responses made for the wiki. if someone whats to right them let me know (im not good with coming up with responses
[03:21] <gnomefreak> who has rebult ff lately?
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83229 in firefox (main) "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on the	background" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83229
[05:00] <gnomefreak> anyone know why firefox-dom-inspector is not in the LP source-packages when trying to set source package on a bug?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> seems to be built in firefox :(
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #45357 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not react on keyboard input anymore when opening certain pages" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45357
[06:14] <gnomefreak> crimsun: you here?
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #52646 in firefox (main) "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52646
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63201 in firefox (main) "spreadsheet.google.com freezes the whole system" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63201
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65694 in firefox (main) "bookmark crash" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65694
[07:11] <asac> hi! ... is this the normal pace at which serious bugs come in?
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: those aren't serious bugs
[07:11] <asac> :)
[07:12] <gnomefreak> those are being closed by me
[07:12] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> those are mostly crash reports.
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks john
[07:12] <gnomefreak> notice either rejected or fix released
[07:12] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:13] <asac> so what is the policy ... on crashers ? :)
[07:13] <gnomefreak> asac: file a ug report :)
[07:13] <gnomefreak> bug even
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: well, with crashes we close most of them because they aren't reproduceable
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> secondly, many of them are due to flash, totem, et al
[07:15] <asac> aha ... is flash, totem a temporary issue or a regression?
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure what you mean
[07:18] <asac> I mean ... since when get that 'many' crash reports filed that are due to flash? was this introduced by some recent upload?
[07:20] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: no, it was fixed by a recent upload (Flash player 9) that was updated after 2 years
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83270 in firefox (main) "Firefox closed down after completing the loading of a page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83270
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: i got a bug if you want to look at it and give your opinion if you have time. bug #83229
[07:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83229 in firefox "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on the	background" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83229
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: which one
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see
[07:22] <gnomefreak> the bug above for you to opinion on
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't understand this statement "ounds like you had to click the emtpy space becasue the firefox window wasnt the focused window."
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: if you have terminl open with firefox behind it that key combo wont do anything (firefox in background == not focused
[07:26] <gnomefreak> )*
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> okay so I have a window open (gobby) and gobby focus. Fx is in the background, no focus. then what am I supposed to do
[07:30] <gnomefreak> he states he has to click on ff background anywhere than use the key combo. makes me think he has window open infront of ff
[07:31] <asac> assume you have firefox open ... click on the desktop next to it -> window gets deactivated ... loses focus .... then no input will go to ffox
[07:31] <gnomefreak> so try it without clicking on ff background
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> I had Akregator open in front of it (with focus) and I hit ctrl + W and nothing happened
[07:32] <gnomefreak> correctme if im wrong but to use ff under wine you need windows version of ff and windows version of flash coorect?
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[07:33] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: thats what makes me think it is users fault
[07:33] <gnomefreak> good :)
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: seems like we don't want an unfocused window reacting to keystrokes no?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> we only want focused windows reacting to key strokes
[07:34] <asac> mozillas used to have hard-to-reproduce focus bugs. Hard to say if this report is really about such a case.
[07:34] <gnomefreak> other wise you will end up with major issues
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> exactly.
[07:35] <gnomefreak> not sure if i should wait for his reply but i assume so
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> well it is Rob Collins, he wouldn't be leaving a bug report if it wasn't good
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67604 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when closing the window" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67604
[07:47] <AlexLatchford> Good work today John
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ty AlexLatchford
[07:50] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: i have one of your bugs in my window atm not sure what the hell to do with it. i think its totem causing ff to crash :(
[07:50] <AlexLatchford> number?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> bug 69382
[07:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69382 in firefox "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69382
[07:51] <gnomefreak> i just commented on it
[07:51] <AlexLatchford> hmm ok
[07:51] <AlexLatchford> (just updating wiki, 1 sec)
[07:53] <AlexLatchford> Hmm I have seen this bug happening quite a bit
[07:53] <AlexLatchford> gimme 10 minutes to look for duplicates
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ty make sure they are all using gstreamer :)
[07:54] <AlexLatchford> yeah I will do
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69315 in firefox (main) "random crash" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69315
[07:55] <gnomefreak> thank you
[07:57] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/72018
[07:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Medium,Confirmed]
[07:57] <AlexLatchford> It doesn't say which plugin that user is using though
[07:57] <AlexLatchford> but the behaviour seems similar
[07:58] <AlexLatchford> also.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/77564
[07:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77564 in firefox "Crash while trying to save an rtf from a GoogleMail email (but had just failed to open an rm file with Totem)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]
[07:58] <AlexLatchford> might be of interest
[07:59] <gnomefreak> looking
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69382 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69382
[08:02] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm this bug is a good one i think i will add a response to wiki. thank you :)
[08:04] <gnomefreak> gonna add one about totem versiona nd what package
[08:04] <gnomefreak> have to think of how to say it
[08:04] <AlexLatchford> hmm j
[08:04] <AlexLatchford> k even
[08:05] <asac> so -gstreamer makes ff crash but -xine not?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> asac: when they answer we will know. but -gstreamer has had crash issues in past where -xine didnt
[08:08] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: what do you think of: Which totem pacakge do you have installed?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> Which version of the totem package is installed?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> would like to make it  a bit easier to understand but not sure how to word it
[08:09] <gnomefreak> ah ha
[08:09] <AlexLatchford> meh, I have -xine installed
[08:09] <AlexLatchford> haven't had too many problems with it
[08:10] <AlexLatchford> some videos wont play, but no crashes
[08:11] <gnomefreak> well its up there. feel free to change it if you think it can be worded better.
[08:14] <AlexLatchford> okay, I have the responses list on my todo, along with /Bugs and /Bugs/Triage so it will get a make over soon enough :)
[08:15] <AlexLatchford> I have cleaned up most of the rest of the wiki, just needs a few more things done to it on the actual main pages now
[08:16] <AlexLatchford> lol, I am the opposite
[08:19] <asac> gnomefreak: which page did you edit?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses?action=show
[08:22] <gnomefreak> we need to come up with a more general part instead of My IBM T43 had the same problem.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> Some people have reported that their IBM T43 had the same problem. maybe?
[08:23] <asac> hmmm ... maybe it would be better to ask for a complete list of plugins as well as extensions in response to crash reports? e.g. like opening about:plugins and providing some info from there?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> i thought of that and had asked someone to do that but. its a long list (mostly java related)
[08:24] <asac> yeah ... from what I have seen so far, the apport stuff is nice, but tends to trigger lots of duplicates. which are a pita to deal with properly.
[08:24] <asac> who did you talk with?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> some bug i did today
[08:24] <gnomefreak> i asked for it
[08:25] <asac> ah okay
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69522 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.souko0.crash" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69522
[08:25] <asac> i currently look at about:plugins ... sadly I cannot identify from that info if its a -gstreamer or -xine totem :/
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69460 in firefox (main) "Crashes after filling up my disk space" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69460
[08:27] <gnomefreak> you can but let me check
[08:28] <gnomefreak> thought you could. i remember seeing xine in them before but with ff 3.0 and feisty i dont see it like that anymore
[08:28] <gnomefreak> cant remember if i even have totem-xine installed
[08:28] <gnomefreak> there were depends issues earlier in devel
[08:28] <asac> i have edgy ... and don't see it either
[08:31] <asac> hmmm totem-xine ships from universe ... same for -gstreamer?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> gstreamer is in main
[08:33] <gnomefreak> i believe its installed from installer
[08:34] <asac> interesting ... totem-gstreamer is in main .. totem-xine is in universe/gnome ... but both are build from same source :)
[08:35] <gnomefreak> xine has restricted formats in it
[08:36] <gnomefreak> it plays most of w32codecs by default
[08:36] <gnomefreak> opening a popup crashes ff? dont open the damn pop ups
[08:36] <asac> hehe
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> AxlRose: ask gnomefreak i think he's around
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> also AlexLatchford might be able to help
[08:40] <gnomefreak> huh?
[08:40] <AxlRose> excellent
[08:40] <AxlRose> I've got a question for you concerning the mplayer plugin
[08:41] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: ask it we might beable to help
[08:41] <AxlRose> gnomefreak:  I'm trying to watch a movie trailer on yahoo.com...and all  I get is sound and now picture
[08:41] <AxlRose> gnomefreak:  *no picture
[08:41] <AxlRose> gnomefreak:  it shows the mplayer plugin logo, and where the streaming is comming from
[08:42] <gnomefreak> what extentsion is the file? does it work if you download it and play it
[08:42] <asac> AxlRose: missing codec?
[08:42] <AxlRose> I don't think I can download it...it streams
[08:43] <gnomefreak> should beable to but that is up to yahoo if they let you.
[08:43] <gnomefreak> asac: you have mplayer installed
[08:43] <gnomefreak> or AlexLatchford do you?
[08:44] <asac> unfortunately not .... but I remember to remember :) that mplayer (once) will not completely give up if for instance video codec is missing but audio is there.
[08:44] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: your on edgy?
[08:44] <asac> AxlRose: how did you install it?
[08:45] <AxlRose> yes edgu
[08:45] <AxlRose> *edgy
[08:45] <AxlRose> and I installed it using Automatix
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70024 in firefox (main) "Crash in Firefox when printing" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70024
[08:47] <gnomefreak> well that leaves me out of this. im done tracking issues for automatix (try asking in #automatix?)
[08:48] <asac> hmm cannot install it ... no support for amd64
[08:48] <asac> AxlRose: does mplayer work correctly otherwise?
[08:48] <AxlRose> asac:  sure does
[08:52] <asac> try to install  all codecs if you haven't done so already ... otherwise ... its hard to say.
[08:53] <asac> sorry :-/
[08:53] <AxlRose> where would I find the codecs?
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock (universe) "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83288
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell AxlRose about restricted
[08:56] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: check your pm
[08:56] <asac> hmmm don't know which package it is ... there should be a w32codecs package available somewhere
[08:57] <AxlRose> gnomefreak: I don't get a pm
[08:57] <gnomefreak> asac: i have a deb on my site :)
[08:57] <gnomefreak> is taht all you need is the w32codecs?
[08:57] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah then ... AxlRose try that :)
[08:57] <asac> maybe ... just digging around ;)
[08:58] <gnomefreak> think i uploaded it on the new site
[08:58] <gnomefreak> if you give me a minute i will upload it
[08:58] <AxlRose> there is nothing with w32codecs in the name in adept
[08:58] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: you wont find it there
[08:59] <AxlRose> oh
[08:59] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: give me a few minutes
[08:59] <AxlRose> k
[08:59] <asac> AxlRose: be warned it, might be illegal afaik :-P
[08:59] <gnomefreak> im uploading them now i will giv eyou link when its done
[08:59] <AxlRose> k
[09:00] <gnomefreak> about 15 minutes or so
[09:01] <AlexLatchford> meh, was in the shower.
[09:02] <AlexLatchford> link me to the video in question please
[09:02] <AlexLatchford> dig about in the html code, see if the actual format is supported
[09:03] <AlexLatchford> AxlRose: ping
[09:03] <AxlRose> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/info
[09:03] <AlexLatchford> ta
[09:05] <AlexLatchford> hmm the video plays for me using -xine, seems to be in .wmv format
[09:05] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: the older ones are here http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/ not much is different
[09:05] <AlexLatchford> ttp://mediaframe.yahoo.com/buildlist.asp?p=movies&f=1808716430&type=t&t=Transformers&id=1540540-180626&m=wmv&r=1000&l=SAV&ext=1
[09:05] <AlexLatchford> http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/buildlist.asp?p=movies&f=1808716430&type=t&t=Transformers&id=1540540-180626&m=wmv&r=1000&l=SAV&ext=1
[09:05] <gnomefreak> changed things around and havent gotten all the uploads done in the new place
[09:06] <gnomefreak> they are wmv the w32codecs should do it
[09:06] <AlexLatchford> yes
[09:07] <AxlRose> so it's not playing because mplayer doesn't support wmv?
[09:07] <AlexLatchford> no mplayer should support it
[09:07] <gnomefreak> correct
[09:07] <AxlRose> so what do I need the codecs for
[09:07] <gnomefreak> wmv == window media video
[09:07] <asac> AxlRose: the package you installed does not ship the codec ... thats all
[09:07] <AlexLatchford> no wait
[09:08] <gnomefreak> the w32codecs on the link i gave you above
[09:08] <AlexLatchford> the format it is using is .asf, the streaming format
[09:08] <AxlRose> I know what mwv stands for lol :P
[09:09] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: do yuou know if they are DRM encoded?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> the wmv hes trying to watch
[09:09] <AlexLatchford> hmm, no idea
[09:10] <AxlRose> AlexLatchford: so do I need to install the codec or not
[09:10] <gnomefreak> w32codecs wont play DRM encoded wmvs
[09:10] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: yes
[09:10] <AxlRose> because if it's potentially illegal i don't want to install it :P
[09:10] <AxlRose> if I don't need to
[09:10] <AxlRose> alright
[09:11] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: This package is not available from the Ubuntu repositories due to licensing and legal restrictions
[09:11] <AxlRose> well no ones gonna bust down my door are they :P
[09:11] <AlexLatchford> well I presume its not, I am using totem-xine and I can see the file
[09:12] <gnomefreak> btw autocrapix has them but i strongly advise you to not use it at all
[09:12] <AlexLatchford> I would install the totem-xine plugin for firefox, it seems to do the job on most embedded movies
[09:12] <AxlRose> I can try that
[09:12] <AlexLatchford> hmm, but that doesn't really solve the bug lol
[09:14] <AxlRose> AlexLatchford: should totem-xine show up in adept?
[09:14] <asac> AxlRose: search for codecs
[09:14] <asac> install xine extra plugin
[09:15] <AlexLatchford> adept is synaptic for KDE right?
[09:15] <AxlRose> i get libxine-extracodecs
[09:15] <AxlRose> yes
[09:15] <AlexLatchford> should do then yes
[09:16] <AxlRose> do I need to have totem installed for this to work lol
[09:17] <AxlRose> ohh I think found it
[09:17] <AxlRose> totem-mozilla ???
[09:17] <AlexLatchford> yes
[09:17] <asac> but then you won't use mplayer anymore I guess :)
[09:18] <AxlRose> how do I specify which plugin firefox uses?
[09:18] <AlexLatchford> I would suppose you would uninstall the other one
[09:19] <asac> maybe the plugin packages do even conflict?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> totem and totem-xine ther eis also a totem-xine-plugin or totem-plugin
[09:21] <AxlRose> i installed totem-mozilla...tried the video...still no luck!!
[09:21] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: you didnt install totem-xine
[09:22] <AxlRose> gnomefreak:  i think it was already intalled
[09:22] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: open synaptic and serach for totem install totem-xine and if you se ea plugin  for totem install it
[09:24] <AxlRose> Now it says:  Video codec not handled Windows media player 9
[09:24] <gnomefreak> im taking the rest of day for other work. dont forget meeting in -meeting tomorrow (i think)
[09:24] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: its most likely DRM encoded
[09:25] <AxlRose> AlexLatchford said it worked from him...didn't he?
[09:25] <asac> Ack ;)
[09:25] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: apt-cache policy totem-xine
[09:25] <AlexLatchford> hmm
[09:26] <gnomefreak> what doe sit say version installed?
[09:26] <AxlRose> 2.
[09:26] <AxlRose> 2.16.2
[09:29] <AxlRose> also it looks like totem-xine uninstalled totem-mozilla
[09:29] <gnomefreak> like it should
[09:30] <AxlRose> k
[09:32] <asac> does kde/kubuntu have (parts of) gnome by default? for instance, gnome-control-panel or at least gconftool-2 ?
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[09:32] <AxlRose> ok...so i restarted firefox...and tried to watch the video again and it says I don't even have a plugin for watching videos installed
[09:35] <asac> hmm actually bug 52646 is a valid bug ... its about the lack of proper kde integration of firefox
[09:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52646 in firefox "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52646
[09:39] <gnomefreak> asac: nope not valid because you can set thunderbird and firefox as defaults
[09:39] <asac> when?
[09:39] <asac> where?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> i do it all the time
[09:40] <asac> in about:config?
[09:40] <asac> or kde?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ff in update-alternatives and thunderbird in the system settings
[09:40] <gnomefreak> in kde
[09:41] <gnomefreak> oh and feisty will havebetter intergation
[09:41] <asac> yeah ... there is a debconf script for thunderbird ... but none for firefox
[09:41] <AxlRose> firefox is my default
[09:41] <gnomefreak> asac: update-alternatives for firefox
[09:41] <AxlRose> and I didn't do anything special
[09:42] <gnomefreak> AxlRose: gnome or kde?
[09:42] <asac> ah :)
[09:42] <AxlRose> KDE
[09:42] <gnomefreak> just because people file bugs without asking for support isnt our problem
[09:43] <gnomefreak> bugs are problems with programs not people
[09:47] <asac> how about an enhancement bug?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> wishlist?
[09:48] <asac> yes
[09:49] <asac> enhance kde integration - mailto: handler is not configurable in kde control panel?
[09:49] <asac> i guess its control center ;)
[09:49] <asac> isn't it?
[10:22] <asac> ok, have a nice evening :) cu
[10:27] <crimsun> gnomefreak: in and out this afternoon
[10:53] <gnomefreak> crimsun: have you ever built firefox for ubuntu? i want to try my hand at it but debian nolonger has it so im not sure how to do it maybe gran ubuntus and instead of debian grab mozillas build?
[10:58] <AlexLatchford> man trying to write a mutli-user permission and grouping system is a little harder than it seems
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #48617 in firefox (main) "galeon says it is Firefox via ssh URI" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48617


[16:01] <juliank> o/
[16:01] <waveform> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> o/
[16:03] <tdaitx> o/
[16:03] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 30 16:03:05 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:03] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:03] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning rounds
[16:03] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform)
[16:03] <bdmurray> tdaitx sil2100 waveform infinity doko bdmurray vorlon mwhudson rbalint juliank xnox
[16:03]  * xnox win
[16:04] <bdmurray> tdaitx:
[16:04] <tdaitx> Short week: out last week
[16:04] <tdaitx> * openjdk-8
[16:04] <tdaitx>   - investigated os::commit_memory errors on armhf
[16:04] <tdaitx>   - no proper reproducer (yet), happens intermittently, more so with some particular tests, will contact upstream with more data
[16:04] <tdaitx>   - updated test scripts to copy & keep hs_err log files; need to copy this functionality to the other openjdk packages
[16:04] <tdaitx> * setting up test comparison for jck-11
[16:04] <tdaitx> * various openjdk blacklists and hinting
[16:04] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:04] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[16:05] <tdaitx> ops, I meant arm64, not armhf, typo! =)
[16:05] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:05] <waveform> * Back-ported LP: #1311056 to xenial, bionic, eoan
[16:05] <waveform> * Fixed and LP: #1861292 and back-ported to bionic
[16:05] <waveform> * Lots of work on getting core18 to boot (nothing yet, but some interesting notes from the kernel team on possible incorrect dtb being loaded by the bootloader)
[16:05] <waveform> * More testing on focal and bionic .4 classic images; no issues (other than the flash-kernel one above)
[16:05] <waveform> (done)
[16:05] <sil2100> Crap
[16:06]  * sil2100 not ready anwyway
[16:06] <bdmurray> doko:
[16:06] <doko>  - finished unversioned python removal, python-defaults migrated
[16:06] <doko>  - started python3.8 defaults transition
[16:06] <doko>  - gcc-10 update
[16:06] <doko>  - binutils & gdb updates
[16:06] <doko>  - more unrelated transition work
[16:06] <doko> (done)
[16:06] <bdmurray> bdmurray: its a me!
[16:06] <bdmurray> updated meta-release files for 19.04 End of Life
[16:06] <bdmurray> updated daisy code base for 19.04 End of Life
[16:06] <bdmurray> learned how to use autodeploy with the Error Tracker
[16:06] <bdmurray> researched retracing queues growing huge
[16:07] <bdmurray> discovered issue with retracer configuration and ddebs key
[16:07] <bdmurray> emailed ubuntu-devel regarding retracing backlog
[16:07] <bdmurray> tested a distribution upgrade from X to B w/ -proposed
[16:07] <bdmurray> uploaded walinuxagent to F and SRUs (LP: #1851064)
[16:07] <sil2100> I can go now
[16:07] <bdmurray> SRU verification of LP: #1856684
[16:07] <bdmurray> attended Cape Town sprint
[16:07] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:07] <vorlon>  * short week, out most of Thursday and Friday afternoon
[16:07] <vorlon>  * proposed-migration: worked on libffi transition, miscellaneous others
[16:07] <vorlon>  * disco EOL: running 'swift delete' in a loop for the past 3 days to get rid of the autopkgtest usage
[16:07] <vorlon> (done)
[16:07] <sil2100> I'll go now o/
[16:07] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[16:07] <sil2100> - 18.04.4 - stuff, lots of stuff, busy busy, no panic yet tho
[16:07] <sil2100> (done)
[16:08] <sil2100> (didn't have time to write up anything better)
[16:08] <bdmurray> rbalint is still out
[16:08] <bdmurray> juliank:
[16:08] <juliank> * Sponsored flash-kernel uploads for waveform
[16:08] <juliank> * dug a bit further into openblas / hypre (LP: #1860601), and other autopkgtest regressions and migrations
[16:08] <juliank> * could not investigate apport regression as apt just segfaulted in autopkgtest image :/
[16:08] <juliank> * apt 1.9.8, fixing crash in apt 1.9.7, slightly improving performance, and changing disco mentions to focal
[16:08] <juliank> * update-notifier pep8 -> pycodestyle change
[16:08] <juliank> * synced python-apt 1.9.5
[16:08] <juliank> * merged autopkgtest 5.11
[16:08] <juliank> * merged irssi 1.2.2
[16:09] <juliank> * re-added the pep8 binary package to pep8 to ease the python-defaults transition
[16:09] <juliank> * work on powerpc-utils, reviewing patches
[16:09] <xnox> doko:  are you planning to do gcc-9 and gcc-8 uploads to focal? i.e. with just newer stuff from branches that are available? cause there are s390x fixes.....
[16:09] <juliank> * reviewing specs
[16:09] <juliank> * in the progress of reimplementing kernel autoremoval for apt
[16:09] <juliank> (done)
[16:09] <doko> xnox: at some point, yes
[16:09] <bdmurray> xnox: your turn
[16:09] <xnox> Back from Cape Town Sprint
[16:09] <xnox> Off to Brussels for FOSDEM / escaping Brexit tomorrow
[16:09] <xnox> Updated s390-tools LP: #1860574 LP: #1860531 LP: #1859018 LP: #1853308
[16:09] <xnox> TODO: AA to approve s390-tools upload https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=s390-tools
[16:09] <xnox> Uploaded livecd-rootfs changes to enable SSH access on s390x
[16:09] <xnox> Uploaded livecd-rootfs to use the right oem-20.04 flavour, which actually is just oem flavour, with matching ubuntu-cdimage changes, reviewed by Laney
[16:09] <xnox> Filed bug report that cloud-init crashes with static network configuration
[16:09] <xnox> Started mailing list discussion with server team that cloud-init does not harvest netplan.yaml that our initrd generates
[16:09] <xnox> Rebasing numpy-less boost on i386 onto boost1.71 builds, in preparation for ABI transition
[16:09] <xnox> Uploaded new qclib LP: #1852718
[16:09] <xnox> Uploaded casper with finalrd dep into bionic for point release LP: #1840122
[16:10] <xnox> Working with frank / ryan / mwhudson on debugging s390x curtin / subiquity / multipath failing to complete the install
[16:10] <xnox> Uploaded xdmf to unbreak really bad py3.8/cmake packaging
[16:10] <xnox> done
[16:10] <bdmurray> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:10] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:11] <bdmurray> there seem to be quite a few here
[16:11] <bdmurray> bug 1860531 is targetted and tagged (lame)
[16:12] <xnox> that's in progress
[16:12] <xnox> needs AA to approve mu upload, as mentioned in my status with TODO
[16:12] <bdmurray> bug 1860432
[16:12] <vorlon> µ
[16:13] <xnox> so needs forwarding bug report to upstream systemd based on comment #1
[16:13] <xnox> i guess rbalint or I can take it
[16:14] <xnox> it's not critical to fix though
[16:14] <bdmurray> so let's card that
[16:14] <xnox> because with juju team we did a bit of a "but why are you doing this?!"
[16:14] <xnox> and they are changing code to be more normal.
[16:14] <bdmurray> bug 1861353
[16:14] <vorlon> xnox: but the juju part is fixed, so is this critical for anything to change on the systemd side?
[16:14] <xnox> vorlon:  correct juju is going to stop using subdirectories, but it is a potential upstream regression nonetheless
[16:15] <xnox> (worth flagging it up to systemd people, even if they simply release note it)
[16:15] <vorlon> ok; so we can take it for further investigation but we might decline to change the behavior, sure
[16:16] <bdmurray> lets go ahead and target and card this one
[16:16]  * vorlon nods
[16:16] <bdmurray> bug 1859858
[16:18] <bdmurray> This one is already targetted so I'll card it.
[16:19] <bdmurray> bug 1860957
[16:20] <bdmurray> That should go to the desktop team.
[16:21] <bdmurray> bug 1843063
[16:22] <bdmurray> Let's land their patch, so I'll target and card it.
[16:23] <xnox> https://ezix.org/src/ycheng/lshw/commit/82393aa9b59307a443677df7340a1dd38847a5ef.patch
[16:23] <bdmurray> Also bug 1860406 is new / undecided
[16:23] <bdmurray> bug 1850406
[16:23] <bdmurray> that's the one I meant
[16:24] <bdmurray> I've an upload of u-r-u to do anyway so I'll take that and queue jump with it
[16:24] <bdmurray> nothing new in rls-ee-
[16:25] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:26] <sil2100> BB IS CLOSED
[16:26] <bdmurray> bug 1854839 still has work for me
[16:26] <sil2100> STOOP
[16:26] <sil2100> (just kidding)
[16:27] <bdmurray> bug 1856560
[16:27] <bdmurray> We seem to have talked about this before.
[16:28] <bdmurray> okay, xnox will look at the comments
[16:28] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:29] <bdmurray> vorlon: can you help here?
[16:29] <vorlon> ack
[16:30] <vorlon> python3.7, python3.8 are entangled in the libffi transition which I'm working through (libffi itself got its migratability reset by a ruby2.7 autopkgtest regression, which I've hinted away again; we're only about 2 packages away from this getting through)
[16:30] <vorlon> libtimedate-perl causing libsoap-wsdl-perl regression, who wants this?
[16:30] <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/focal/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:30] <vorlon> btw
[16:31] <vorlon> xnox: ^^ libtimedate-perl?
[16:32] <vorlon> bdmurray: can you take libcgi-pm-perl?
[16:32] <vorlon> libuv1 is figuring out whether to fix or hint i386, so I'll take that unless someone else is keen
[16:32] <vorlon> libffi, glib2.0 are all part of the same deal
[16:32] <juliank> aptdaemon: should force-badtest aptdaemon/all/arm64 IMO
[16:33] <vorlon> juliank: ok, I'll assign that to you to follow through on
[16:33] <xnox> vorlon:  are you assigning that to me? ok....
[16:33] <bdmurray> vorlon: okay
[16:33] <vorlon> libgpg-error is another i386 one, would anybody else like to take one of these?
[16:34] <vorlon> crickets
[16:34] <vorlon> fine, I'll take libgpg-error and libjsoncpp too
[16:36] <doko> open-iscsi and python-dateutil are in the works
[16:37] <vorlon> unattended-upgrades needs an assignee.  doko?
[16:37] <doko> where do you see this?
[16:38] <vorlon> doko: the list that we're going through right now
[16:38] <juliank> No
[16:38] <vorlon> can you follow up on unattended-upgrades?
[16:38] <juliank> unattended-upgrades we know why it's failing
[16:38] <juliank> It's going to be fixed in a new apt release
[16:38] <vorlon> ok, that sounds like juliank is claiming it then
[16:38] <juliank> yes
[16:38] <vorlon> ok
[16:38] <juliank> Just finalizing the fixes
[16:38] <vorlon> libcap-ng is tied to python3-defaults, which we know the status of
[16:39] <vorlon> doko: who is working on open-iscsi and python-dateutil?
[16:39] <vorlon> (you said "in the works" but not by who)
[16:39] <doko> nobody, they are waiting for the tests to finish
[16:39] <vorlon> doko: does that mean you retriggered tests?  since the tests shouldn't have taken 5 days
[16:40] <doko> yes
[16:40] <vorlon> if so, I'll consider these yours :)
[16:40] <vorlon> python3-defaults, doko is obviously working on, if other people have time to pitch in as well that would be good (I'll be helping with it but only after I finish libffi)
[16:40] <juliank> wooohoo, CI for APT fix just passed
[16:40] <doko> yes, please.
[16:40] <doko> update-manager?
[16:41] <vorlon> update-manager is part of the python3-defaults transition, does it need particular attention?
[16:41] <doko> can we ignore all the tryton stuff?
[16:41] <doko> scheduled for removal in Debian anyway
[16:41] <vorlon> ignore, no. remove, yes
[16:41] <xnox> we should kill tryton stuff
[16:41] <xnox> and odoo / openerp / tinyerp too
[16:41] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  and xnox no longer care about it =)
[16:42] <vorlon> we can follow up on that on #ubuntu-release
[16:42] <vorlon> gdb vs python?
[16:42] <Odd_Bloke> xnox: :D
[16:42] <doko> retried
[16:42] <vorlon> doko: ok
[16:42] <vorlon> sl-modem is more i386, so
[16:42] <bdmurray> what was retried?
[16:42] <vorlon> bdmurray: the python autopkgtest failures with new gdb
[16:43] <bdmurray> okay so update-manager still needs looking at?
[16:43] <vorlon> and then p11-kit and talloc are part of the aforementioned transitions
[16:43] <vorlon> certainly looks like update-manager needs fixing for python3.8
[16:44] <vorlon> so it's worth someone taking that one specifically
[16:44] <vorlon> bdmurray: ?
[16:44] <bdmurray> I can have a look
[16:44] <vorlon> thanks
[16:44] <vorlon> and that's all
[16:44]  * juliank just used the big hammer and retried all python-apt triggered-tests that failed
[16:44] <doko> one more, libreoffice/amd64 ftbfs with out-of-dis-space
[16:45] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[16:45] <doko> ore here: one more, libreoffice/amd64 ftbfs with out-of-disk-space
[16:45] <bdmurray> I'm probably gonna end up taking a half day to aid my recovery
[16:45] <doko> desktop is aware
[16:45] <bdmurray> I'm also taking a swap day on Monday
[16:45] <vorlon> ah I am also off tomorrow
[16:46] <doko> and one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/1860763
[16:46] <vorlon> I know Laney has commented on the bug
[16:46] <doko> please can we fix that, especially now with all the python3 stuff going on?
[16:47] <juliank> yes
[16:47] <juliank> essentially mark everything auto
[16:47] <vorlon> pointing out that you'll never have a guarantee that there are no extra packages installed in the test bed
[16:47] <doko> vorlon: there's no comment
[16:47] <juliank> mark ubuntu-minimal and whitelisted packages manual
[16:47] <juliank> then run autoremove
[16:47] <vorlon> oh, it wasn't on the bug
[16:47] <vorlon> I saw a reply from him somewher
[16:47] <juliank> I think we can do that
[16:47] <Laney> IRC
[16:47] <vorlon> right
[16:47] <juliank> I think my idea should work, just need to figure out the whitelist
[16:48] <Laney> No problem with attempting to minimise the testbed, but the point still stands and it could be another package down the line
[16:48] <vorlon> it is a reasonable improvement to try to minimize the contents of the testbed image, if for no other reason than it speeds up upgrades
[16:48] <juliank> sure
[16:48] <vorlon> but also what Laney said
[16:48] <vorlon> package tests shouldn't misbehave in the presence of extra packages and if they do that's a bug
[16:48] <bdmurray> alright will y'all follow up in the bug?
[16:49] <juliank> vorlon: I don't think we have test-conflicts yet, might be useful, idk
[16:50] <vorlon> juliank: that's one way to ensure tests always behave properly, but in the absence of that there's no test that couldn't be fixed (upstream or whatever) to just do what we want in the presence of extra stuff
[16:50] <juliank> true
[16:51] <juliank> the reverse is also true
[16:51] <juliank> tests could be passing that should be failing because they miss a dependency
[16:51] <vorlon> sure, but in both cases you'd have to first discover the difference between testbed implementations and then change the package
[16:51] <vorlon> anyway, the bug is valid
[16:51] <vorlon> but I don't think it's high priority, it's really corner-case
[16:53] <bdmurray> okay, anything else?
[16:54] <bdmurray> alrighty then, thanks everybody
[16:54] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[16:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jan 30 16:54:39 2020 UTC.
[16:54] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-01-30-16.03.moin.txt
[16:57] <sil2100> Thanks o/


[10:56] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, i am curious what requires libgit2-glib ;)
[11:00] <darkxst> gitg
[11:06] <ricotz> darkxst, i see, better requestsync to get it in utopic too
[11:06] <ricotz> if it test-builds there fine
[11:07] <darkxst> ricotz, yes I plan to sync it to utopic
[11:08] <darkxst> do you have a buildd builder setup?
[11:08] <darkxst> (sbuild)
[11:08] <ricotz> pbuilder
[11:08] <darkxst> test passes on pbuilder
[11:09] <darkxst> but fails on the ppa builders
[11:09] <ricotz> meaning if you sync it and it builds fine, avoid bumping the trusty version that way
[11:09] <darkxst> yes of course
[11:09] <ricotz> could be some qemu problem
[11:10] <ricotz> (too late for that though)
[11:10] <darkxst> oh I see what you mean
[11:13] <ricotz> you can delete the current package and upload 0.0.12-1~trusty2 for further checks
[11:14] <ricotz> bbl
[11:23] <frandieguez> hi everyone
[11:24] <frandieguez> I have created packages for gitg 0.3.2 as I mention in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gitg/+bug/1291092
[11:24] <darkxst> frandieguez, please paste a debdiff
[11:24] <frandieguez> could packaging team review them as they are far from perfect
[11:24] <frandieguez> ok, I'll try
[11:25] <frandieguez> darkxst, I have created the packages by getting the tarball file from GNOME FTP and I have copied the debian/ folder from the sources of the previous version
[11:26] <frandieguez> What is the best approach to get the proper debdiff
[11:26] <darkxst> frandieguez, debdiff old.dsc new.dsc | filterdiff -i "*/debian/*"
[11:26] <frandieguez> great
[11:31] <frandieguez> darkxst, here is it http://pastebin.com/jEssRiZ7
[11:31] <frandieguez> please review all the build-deps and deps
[11:32] <frandieguez> this produces a funtional gitg package
[11:32] <frandieguez> but in the diff explorer it doesn't show anything
[11:33] <frandieguez> the diff explorer is the part where after selecting a commit it shows the differences of it
[11:33] <darkxst> frandieguez, you don't need to explicitly list libs under Depends:
[11:33] <darkxst> (they get picked up automatically from the linking
[11:33] <frandieguez> and it is quite weird because by compiling gitg through the manual process it works as expected
[11:34] <darkxst> maybe some build-dep is still missing
[11:35] <frandieguez> darkxst, yep something is missing
[11:36] <frandieguez> I've tried creating a pbuider environment but I don't know how to pass the local libgit2-glib packages to use them while compiling gitg inside
[11:36] <frandieguez> afk for a while
[11:37] <darkxst> frandieguez, libgit2-glib will be on -staging in about 10mins or so (upload this morning failed)
[11:57] <darkxst> frandieguez, also make sure to include version depends where configure.ac specifies required versions!
[12:01] <ricotz> *cough* wrap-and-sort ;)
[12:13] <darkxst> hmm, seems to be incredibly slow at cloning ;(
[12:14] <darkxst> oh maybe my internet is just flooded, I will never get used to this thing they call ADSL!
[12:14]  * mgedmin is seeing between one and two gnome-shell 3.12 crashes per day
[12:18] <darkxst> mgedmin, please file bugs from the crash reports (retracer should be fixed now)
[12:18] <mgedmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1317060
[12:19] <mgedmin> curiously, not every crash gives me an apport crash dialog
[12:21] <darkxst> mgedmin, remind me to take a look at that after the retracer as processed it!
[12:21] <mgedmin> sure
[12:41] <mgedmin> (my hopes are low)
[12:44] <mgedmin> this is probably a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1315727, which was retraced a few days ago
[12:45] <darkxst> yeh that one failed to retrace properly
[12:46] <mgedmin> I tried a local apport-retrace on a different crash I think; gdb complained about addresses outside of the core file
[12:47] <mgedmin> claiming it was truncated
[12:47] <mgedmin> are there any core size limits in /proc/sys I ought to adjust?
[12:53] <mgedmin> gnome-terminal's copy paste is horribly broken as usual :(
[12:54] <mgedmin> I cannot copy the full stack trace out of the terminal window into a browser
[12:55] <mgedmin> it works better if I select smaller pieces
[12:55] <mgedmin> here: https://gist.github.com/mgedmin/2cb353007d036788860c
[13:05] <darkxst> mgedmin, use 'set logging file' ')
[13:05] <mgedmin> one day I need to learn gdb
[13:06] <frandieguez> do I have to fix those errors in debian/control or are you taking care of the rest of packaging process?
[13:06] <frandieguez> that was a question for darkxst
[13:07] <darkxst> frandieguez, I cleaned up and uploaded
[13:07]  * darkxst is off to bed now
[13:10] <frandieguez> great, thanks... I've just see that it is currently building
[13:14]  * mgedmin disables all shell extensions to see if the crashes will continue
[21:12] <sparq> Hey, is anyone getting a bug where a terminal window sort of turns into an un-killable zombie window that floats above everything?
[21:14] <sparq> it looks like this : http://imgur.com/rwI4yBO
[22:15] <darkxst> sparq, nope, what version?


[07:01] <mitya57> Mirv: I caught some terrible kind of flu (had 39.4 temperature yesterday), so I won't be able to look at anything today or tomorrow. Sorry.
[07:46] <valorie> mitya57: terrible!
[07:46] <valorie> take care of yourself and get well soon
[08:08] <mitya57> valorie: thanks! :-)
[08:09] <valorie> I hear the flu is pretty miserable this year
[08:09] <valorie> I'm glad I got the shot, but it isn't very effective this year unfortunately
[08:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[11:28] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:25] <Mirv> mitya57: no problem, take care! we'll just need sitter to upload the plasma-workspace version bump I guess
[16:18] <ScottK> sgclark could upload it as well.
[17:05] <soee> thats interesting  how propriety drivers might results with worst performance in system
[22:04] <Riddell> who to vote for in DMB?
[22:35] <soee_> Riddell: do we see Plasma 5.3 in vivid after release ?
[22:46] <Riddell> soee_: I expect it'll be backported yes
[22:50] <fregl> Riddell: btw, I guess you saw the screen reader action addition in plasma 5.3? I'd love feedback, if someone except me would test toggling orca works with win-alt-s
[22:50] <fregl> of course the whole thing assumes Orca is installed...
[22:55] <Riddell> fregl: yes sorry I've not had time to respond or look but seems very cool
[22:56] <Riddell> fregl: I'll add it to the todo list for this week's plasma sprint so hopefully we can look at it then
[22:56] <fregl> Riddell: it's mostly convenient, no magic. but for everyone that should mean kcm-checkbox or global shortcut to get it working out of the box
[22:57] <fregl> I still hope someday someone will help testing that stuff ;)
[22:57] <fregl> and you kubuntu people were most interested (kudos) :)
[23:12] <valorie> hmmm, I have an odd little bug since updates (14.10/Plasma5) the other day
[23:13] <valorie> I have a slideshow for my desktop, and the old one never leaves now unless I right-click and "next slide"
[23:13] <valorie> suggestions on where to file that buglet?
[23:14] <valorie> I think I didn't notice for awhile because I rarely look at the desktop


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[05:37] <kirvesAxe> ninnnu, oisit nyt jättäny sen ässän päälle pidemmäks aikaa ku kolmeks sekunniks...
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[09:50] <kirvesAxe> hnngh
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[11:23] <ninnnu> kirvesAxe: Ei pystyny, Charserv sanoi ei ja ku yritin sanoa Chanserville joo niin se sano "et saa"
[11:24] <kirvesAxe> :(
[11:25] <kirvesAxe> kenelläs ne oikeudet on sanoo ChanServille että nyt saa?
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[18:44] <Mirv> kiitos Tm_T
[19:29] <kirvesAxe> :)