[00:00] <jrib> ximo: huh?   DMIX will start instead, won't it?
[00:00] <ximo> jrib: sorry, i  checked the cap locks, this happens every time....I can log corrctly in tty
[00:01] <calwig> jrib: oh, well the files will be there although some files will not all be sequential 1,2,3,5,7,8,9,10   could this create that expansion?
[00:01] <fow> jrib, it expands to foo1 foo3
[00:01] <lard|arse> savvas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117888/
[00:01] <sensae> I'm having an odd problem where flash objects load on web pages, and then randomly within 30 seconds to 3 minutes, all instances of flash die and turn into gray boxes.
[00:01] <fow> jrib, foo[1-3] would expand to foo1 foo2 foo3
[00:01] <fow> damnit I'm supposed to be sleeping
[00:01] <ximo> jrub: is very strange, could this have something to do with my fingerprint reader soft?
[00:02] <jrib> fow: ha, sorry.  I meant {1..3}
[00:02] <ximo> jrib: i configured my laptop so as to log with my finger, and this cworks just fine
[00:02] <jrib> calwig:  ha, sorry.  I meant {1..3}
[00:03] <ximo> jrib: so i don`t think that `s it
[00:03] <calwig> jrib: ok perhaps i need to have it explained a bit more detailed
[00:03] <pepperjack> ximo: it just seems really odd sorry not sure
[00:03] <jrib> calwig: foo{1..3} epands to foo1 foo2 foo3
[00:03] <int256> i increased download speed in ubuntu.
[00:03] <ximo> pepperjack: ok, thank`s anyway
[00:04] <calwig> jrib: so that doesnt move the files?
[00:04] <jrib> calwig: right.  You use mv to move files
[00:04] <calwig> jrib: correct, thats what i want to use
[00:05] <jrib> calwig: so use mv foo{1..3} TARGET    right?
[00:05] <calwig> jrib: is there a simple shell to move files, like file commander or something
[00:05] <calwig> right
[00:05] <jrib> calwig: mc
[00:05] <dee25> how u remote to somebody computer
[00:05] <jrib> !ssh | dee25
[00:06] <ximo> jrib: Any ideas? I read googling around that someone had the same problem but he didn`t get an aswer
[00:06] <Delvien> and the beauty of putty is you can run it off a USB !
[00:06] <calwig> jrib: can i move files with mc?
[00:06] <jrib> ximo: don't know.  finger print reader is a good guess.  Have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com
[00:06] <savvas> lard|arse: I'm searching for something, hold a sec
[00:07] <dee25> can i use anything besides my freind has a virus in his pc
[00:07] <ximo> not yet, I`ll check it rigth the way..tks!
[00:07] <dee25> tryin to remote to her computer so i could remove for her
[00:07] <ximo> jrib: not yet, I`ll check it rigth the way..tks!
[00:08] <constantine> what settings should I use in openvpn config for unencrypted wifi?
[00:08] <jrib> calwig: I assume so, I don't use it.  For what you are doing I imagine using mv would be easier
[00:09] <xTheGoat121x> Hi all... I've managed to bork my Hardy install... I've booted CrunchBang's Live CD but I cannot get my home folder to back up.
[00:09] <gizmo_the_great> Having installed the linux-server kernel, how do I revert back to the generic one?
[00:10] <Delvien> gizmo_the_great: boot into it from GRUB
[00:10] <Huufarted> pepperjack, I looked through the guide posted and I looked (and installed) firestarter.  That's a NICE setup
[00:10] <Flannel> gizmo_the_great: install -generic (or don't, if its still installed), choose generic at GRUB, and then once you've booted to it, you can remove -server through package management
[00:10] <Huufarted> a LOT easier than on FreeBSD fore sure.
[00:10] <gizmo_the_great> Flannel: cheers :-)
[00:10] <^hashbang^> firestarter?
[00:11] <Glassworks> where can i ask a question about screenlets
[00:11] <Huufarted> !firestarter | ^hashbang^
[00:11] <int256> which is the fastest downloader for ubuntu
[00:11] <Huufarted> HA!  I got to do it to you, hashbang.  :)
[00:11] <^hashbang^> nice!
[00:11] <^hashbang^> =)
[00:12] <Huufarted> and now, I just discovered that I have one of the best wifi chipsets on the market for packet injection...  time for aircrack.ng
[00:12] <pepperjack> Huufarted: i would definately agree. :)
[00:12] <Rhaegar> hello
[00:12] <Huufarted> Damn, Linux makes me act like a little kid at Christmas
[00:12] <calwig> jrib: ok thanks for the help :)
[00:12] <^hashbang^> !welcome Rhaegar
[00:13] <Huufarted> *pssst!* !welcome ! Rhaegar
[00:13] <Glassworks> any of you guys using screenlets - watermark
[00:13] <Huufarted> oops | not !
[00:13] <Okashi> Is there someone who is good with sound, because now I have two problems, one with a mic and one with my speakers buzzing...
[00:13] <lard|arse> Okashi: it could be that your computer is sending mic input to the speakers, causing feedback
[00:13] <lard|arse> and i'm not sure how to fix that
[00:14] <Okashi> darn...
[00:14] <Huufarted> Okashi, could also be the speakers (if they're external) are not plugged in all the way.
[00:14] <savvas> lard|arse: did you file a bug about it?
[00:14] <lard|arse> how to know if this is the case is that turning off or unplugging the mic stops the buzzing
[00:14] <Huufarted> Some of the contacts might be shorted on the speaker connection
[00:14] <linkinx64_> Okashi, is it coming from the speakers . or headphones?
[00:14] <Okashi> (Huufarted): I checked that first
[00:14] <lard|arse> savvas: not yet... should it?
[00:14] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): the speakers
[00:14] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone , i need to know what program to use on ubuntu 8.10 to burn audio cds for my car, i dont know which one to use because when i try to burn them they show up error when i try to play them
[00:14] <linkinx64_> Okashi, i had a problem like that... but it was my headphones
[00:15] <fxhp> happy epoch?
[00:15] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): ah...how did you fix it?
[00:15] <linkinx64_> Okashi, lol i replacethe headphones
[00:15] <savvas> lard|arse: yes, please do :) http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug and file it against the package linux
[00:16] <Glassworks> oh hey about sound. my brother has 8.10 installed and his sound is really low, i'm not asking for a troubleshoot just if there is something that is known about 8.10 and realtecl audio cards
[00:16] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): >_< these are new speakers...
[00:16] <pepperjack> GeffIsLegend: get k3b and then search for the mp3 plugin for it. it uses qt but its still the best gui burning app
[00:16] <linkinx64_> Glassworks, check the volume in alsamixer
[00:16] <Glassworks> no he has
[00:16] <Rhaegar> errr, ive never used anything but xp/vista before.
[00:16] <linkinx64_> Okashi, :( sorry i dont know
[00:16] <Okashi> darn...
[00:16] <GuruDrew> Are there any Open Source games with GOOD graphics and gameplay?
[00:16] <Rhaegar> is ubuntu a good choice .V
[00:16] <savvas> lard|arse: attach both files and mention when they were taken: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117874/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/117888/
[00:16] <linkinx64_> Rhaegar,  yes :)
[00:16] <ddoom> wondering how I can mount a mac os x formatted external drive, fdisk -l says id=ee  system=EFI GPT
[00:17] <Okashi> Anyone else know about sound?
[00:17] <pepperjack> Rhaegar: i use several distros and bsds so im not biased.  ubuntu is the best choice imo
[00:17] <linkinx64_> Okashi, try to do a serach on google
[00:17] <linkinx64_> pepperjack, agree.....wanna a beer?
[00:17] <pepperjack> ddoom: i think you need to install the hfs tools
[00:17] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): did that before I came here, came up with nothing that really helped, that's how I ended up with two problems instead of one.
[00:18] <linkinx64_> o wow sorry to read that
[00:18] <linkinx64_> Okashi, 8.10?
[00:18] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): yeah
[00:18] <ozzloy> i have a program that expects keycode 0x1B but my keyboard is actually producing 0x10001B.  is there somewhere i can go to verify that chopping off the top bits is a legit workaround?
[00:18] <linkinx64_> Okashi, never happened with 8.04?
[00:18] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): I have never used 8.04
[00:18] <erichammond> If a DNS name in sources.list resolves to a round robin IP list, and one of those IP addresses does not respond, would apt-get try a different IP address?
[00:19] <ozzloy> any resource on understanding keyboard input is greatly appreciated.
[00:19] <GeffIsLegend> pepperjack: oh okay so where would i find the mp3 plugin for it though?
[00:19] <linkinx64_> Okashi, not sure.....i am running 9.04 and it's perfect
[00:19] <linkinx64_> but it's alpha
[00:19] <Okashi> (linkinx64_): *sigh* it was working fine till I tried to get the headset to work....
[00:20] <pepperjack> GeffIsLegend: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-extracodecs    or just install that package in the package manager
[00:23] <dee25> can somebody help me with this resolution issue
[00:23] <samperet> register abcd<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:24] <lard|arse> savvas: seems to be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/320268 (scroll down to the posts by MattParkins), although that appears to be filed against a different package
[00:26] <Rhaegar> hmmmm. burning the ISO now. anything i should know/do before i install?
[00:26] <savvas> lard|arse: file a new bug, but mention it might be related to that one (with a link) :)
[00:27] <bernhard> hi, ive just upgraded to kde 4.2 packages from the official repos
[00:27] <bernhard> it says libplasma3 cant be installed
[00:27] <Guest34270> hi
[00:27] <tananda> quit
[00:27] <francho> hi
[00:27] <Guest34270> hi
[00:27] <francho> i am using irssi right now
[00:27] <FAJALOU> hi right now I have two cd players in my computer.  I am trying to import a cd but rythmbox tells me that i cannot import them; "permission denied"  other cd players are acting the same way.  help please (ubuntu 8.04)
[00:27] <francho> anybody knows how can i quit from this program?
[00:28] <FAJALOU>  /exit
[00:28] <snegtul> alt-f4?
[00:30] <lard|arse> savvas: ok...
[00:30] <FAJALOU> hi right now I have two cd players in my computer.  I am trying to import a cd but rythmbox tells me that i cannot import them; "permission denied"  other cd players are acting the same way.  help please (ubuntu 8.04)
[00:32] <pepperjack> FAJALOU: run the groups command and make sure you have access to cdrom audio and all that stuff
[00:33] <zcat[1]> http://pastebin.com/m5f9892ab (weird thing is, I had this working before.... now if gets through the start animation stuff, asks for a name and promptly crashes. And ideas? I suspect it's trying to write user data somewhere and failing but I can't understand the crash log)
[00:33] <VolVE> maybe this is an easy question, but how can I tell what type of cpu a system has from the command-line? Is there a way to tell from /proc/cpuinfo if I'm running a Xeon E5310 for example?
[00:33] <pepperjack> VolVE: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:33] <pepperjack> VolVE: lol sorry
[00:33] <VolVE> pepperjack: ha, thanks :)
[00:33] <FAJALOU> pepperjack:  what is the groups command?  and where is the cd stored?? lol
[00:34] <pepperjack> VolVE: im on a xeon atm it shows the model name as intel(R) xeon(TM) cpu 1.80GHz in cpuinfo
[00:34] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  try #winehq
[00:34] <VolVE> pepperjack: ah, thanks. This server most have just a desktop dual-core P4 then as it doesn't mention Xeon at all
[00:34] <zcat[1]> redvamp128, already did. nobody saysing a word in there for about the last 15 minutes
[00:34] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  also there is a wine development release released today-
[00:35] <zcat[1]> redvamp128, which is the one I've just upgraded to after it didn't work on wine1.0 either. still exactly the same error
[00:35] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  1.1.15 (which should be in budgeted sometime this weekend)
[00:35] <FAJALOU> how can i restore original permissions to a directory???
[00:36] <zcat[1]> Oh.. one-up.
[00:36] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  also have you disabled compiz? sometimes that causes random crashes of wine programs
[00:36] <zcat[1]> I don't even have 3d drivers
[00:36] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  (that also means desktop effects set to none)
[00:37] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  also do you have a link to what daywatch.exe is
[00:37] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  correction daybeach
[00:37] <zcat[1]> had this working on my laptop before, sis chipset, no 3d support at all. No 3d support here or any of the machines I'm trying to get this working on., can't set the desktop effects to anything but none..
[00:38] <ODDG> please, number of printed pages is always equal with 1 even the job has many pages. Can you give me a solution or an advice ?
[00:38] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  do you have a link to the main site about that program
[00:38] <kriss3d> Hi.. how do you make the middle mousebutton to toggle a mousecontrolled scroll like in windows ?
[00:39] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  because the only thing I can find about that one is first 5 searches say Spyware
[00:39] <FAJALOU> how to manually scan for metadata in banshee?
[00:39] <jrib> kriss3d: autoscroll in firefox you mean?
[00:39] <kriss3d> well in browsers and windows
[00:39] <kriss3d> like in windows.ll i can click the scroll wheel and then move the mouse up or down and it will scro
[00:39] <kriss3d> scroll
[00:40] <Glassworks> guh i can't get flash 10 plugin to work
[00:40] <zcat[1]> It's SuperSpell Day At the Beach. Not eve sure the company exists any more, all I can find is reviews on teaching sites. It's legit software which was bought on CD, not spyware ;)
[00:40] <FAJALOU> how to manually scan for metadata in banshee?
[00:41] <redvamp128> zcat[1]:  I am in wine hq
[00:41] <zcat[1]> http://hoopers.com.au/products.html
[00:41] <jrib> kriss3d: well in firefox, you can set it up in firefox's preferences.  I'm not aware of a way to do it in nautilus though
[00:42] <kriss3d> jrgp, ok thanks.. ill just look into that..
[00:42] <bitmonk> Howdy.  with two bridges br0 and br1 configured for eth0 and eth1 in my /etc/network/interfaces, my system goes through a nutty period at startup before launching any gettys or sshd, but after bringing up the interfaces, whereby it restarts ntpd a number of times.  any idea what's up?
[00:42] <Oli``> I accidentally xkill'd my panels... how can I reload them?
[00:43] <Glassworks> did you guys download that firefox update and not have flash work even after you reinstalled iy
[00:43] <Glassworks> it
[00:43] <Glassworks> too
[00:44] <tsrk> I'm running a shared server, what's the best way to disable shell access for someone (but still let them access their files via ftp)?
[00:45] <fallore> how do i mount a volume in the terminal?
[00:46] <guanhy> morning
[00:46] <guanhy> hi
[00:46] <pepperjack> Oli``: gnome-panel
[00:47] <Oli``> pepperjack: it's complaining that there's already a shell
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> fallore,  proper use of the 'mount' command is the normnal way
[00:47] <tsrk> fallore, # mount /dev/---- /mountpoint
[00:47] <fallore> where would one normally mount it?
[00:47] <Oli``> pepperjack: >_< killall gnome-panel killed off a stalled panel and reloaded =)
[00:47] <guanhy> what's up
[00:47] <pepperjack> Oli``: eh. it normally respawns i just xkilled mine and it came right back
[00:47] <guanhy> ?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> fallore,  whever you want.. 'sudo mkdir /media/MyStuff'    'sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/MyStuff'
[00:48] <Oli``> pepperjack: yeah I think it crashed half-way through being killed... system is being kind of glitchy today
[00:48] <FAJALOU> hi how can i scan for metadata in banshee?
[00:49] <kriss3d> Dr_Willis,  wouldnt it make more sense to mount somthing at /mnt instead ?
[00:49] <kriss3d> since /media is a sorta like /dev
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> kriss3d,  NO..  youi dont understand what /media/ is . :)
[00:50] <jrib> kriss3d: erm, how so?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> kriss3d,  things get mounted UNDER /media/ in their own dirs.. like i showed.
[00:50] <calwig> !mc
[00:50] <kriss3d> well yeah.. it might just be me but i always mount things in /mnt
[00:50] <jrib> !info mc | calwig
[00:50] <kriss3d> makes it easier to find
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> kriss3d,   thats easier? in what way?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> kriss3d,  what if you mount 5 different things. :)
[00:51] <bastid_raZor> things mounted in /media will show up on the desktop. that would make it easier to find.
[00:52] <kriss3d> Dr_Willis,  i just like my things mounted in same folder /mnt.. i suppose its all a matter of habbit
[00:52] <nickrud> kriss3d, ubuntu is following the fhs, /mnt is intended for transient mounting; http://osdir.com/ml/linux.lsb.specification/2003-11/msg00032.html has a good exposition
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> kriss3d,  i got /mnt/ linked to /media/ :P
[00:53] <ardchoille> hehe
[00:53] <kriss3d> ah ok
[00:53] <nickrud> oh, that's evil. What I I walk you through a fix and want to use /mnt as intended Dr_Willis ? :)
[00:54] <tim> hi folks
[00:54] <fearful> hi
[00:55] <tsrk> Why is this so quiet?
[00:55] <bemuse> Everyone has mastered Ubuntu :P
[00:55] <fearful> tsrk: No real answer to that, no one is experiencing issues
[00:55] <tim> just startin
[00:55] <fearful> bemuse: I can assure you thats not the case :)
[00:55] <tsrk> ah ok
[00:55] <bemuse> haha, i know
[00:55] <tsrk> except me :P
[00:55] <tsrk> I'm running a shared server, what's the best way to disable shell access for someone (but still let them access their files via ftp)?
[00:55] <bemuse> I'm one of the big newbies
[00:55] <bitmonk> tsrk: assign a shell like /bin/false
[00:55] <fearful> bemuse: We all are, to a certain extent
[00:56] <tim> figured out the dual monitor thing.
[00:56] <tsrk> bitmonk, what's the best way to do that?
[00:56] <bitmonk> or, you can use something like ldap/krb or another auth db for ftp, many ftpd support non-system users..
[00:56] <tsrk> edit /etc/passwd?
[00:56] <bitmonk> tsrk: that's the most straightforward
[00:56] <tsrk> well I want them to have a user on the system
[00:56] <tim> where can i get alien
[00:56] <tsrk> for apache and stuff
[00:56] <jrib> tsrk: avoid alien
[00:56] <nickrud> !alien | tim
[00:56] <jrib> tim: avoid alien
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> tim,  and why do you need that?
[00:57] <nickrud> tim, think the movie, it's pretty close if you're not absolutely sure what scripts are in the rpm/tar
[00:57] <tsrk> will changing their shell in /etc/passwd change what's used for the php exec() function?
[00:57] <tim> want to install vmware and need to convert an rpm so ubunto will install it
[00:57] <nickrud> tim, get the tar.gz instead, it installs fine
[00:57] <bitmonk> tsrk: good question.
[00:57] <tim> ok
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> tim,  last i looked - there were deb packages of vmware. i have also used that tar.gz befor
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> but i use virtualbox now a days
[00:57] <bitmonk> if they can php exec(), who cares if they can just ssh?
[00:57] <nickrud> debs? I'd use debs too
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> !vmware
[00:58] <frank_b> can anyone tell what's the best program in ubuntu for video conference at this moment?
[00:58] <tsrk> bitmonk, i was hoping it would disable exec()
[00:58] <shaggy123> frank_b for one to one Skype most likely
[00:59] <bitmonk> tsrk: ah, it may, i'd suggest testing and reading docs for php exec()
[00:59] <tsrk> bitmonk, i'm reading the docs right now but it doesn't say anything about the shell it uses
[00:59] <bitmonk> you should be able to control that in php config, unless run as a cgi, i don't think php runs as the user who owns the file.
[00:59] <SrgSiler|sAFK> anyone know if i can do internet connection sharing in ubuntu?
[00:59] <frank_b> shaggy123, OK, that's what I suspected, thank you very much for your tip! :)
[00:59] <bitmonk> php exec() probably has the permissions of the apache user.
[01:00] <bitmonk> you should just be able to disable it with an apache config or php.ini paramater
[01:00] <shaggy123> frank_b welcome :)
[01:00] <lock> has anyone managed to get a ATI x850 working with 3d accel?
[01:01] <tsrk> bitfish, i use mpm-itk to change the user so it does run as the correct user
[01:01] <fearful> Anyone have an idea why my slabtop shows everything over 95% usage :\ kinda worrying
[01:02] <wahnfrieden> hi
[01:02] <ardchoille> fearful: anything useful in top?
[01:02] <wahnfrieden> i just read this article on reddit about someone replacing their car's ECU computers with Ubuntu UNIX???
[01:02] <ardchoille> wahnfrieden: wouldn't surprise me
[01:03] <wahnfrieden> can you tell me how to?
[01:03] <fearful> ardchoille: I have like 130+ process but only like 5 are running rest are sleeping, and my id% is over 80% always
[01:03] <bastid_raZor> fearful; id% would be idle%
[01:04] <fearful> bastid_razor: yea I don't understand why so many process are running, is it normal?
[01:04] <Raylz> could it be that somehow broken hardware is running smoothly in windows but causes weird errors in ubuntu?
[01:04] <Raylz> like crashing programs
[01:04] <fearful> total slabs = 100%
[01:04] <wahnfrieden> poo slabs??
[01:05] <fearful> I'm just wondering if this should be worrying or not
[01:05] <fearful> RAM usage is always below 30% so thats good
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> Raylz,  i have found bad memory can often cause that sort of issue.. windows crashes so much.. you dont notice the problem.. but under linux.. it sees the problem and gives an error befor it crashes. :) but ya never notice the error.
[01:06] <bastid_raZor> fearful; get htop. it has a slightly nicer UI
[01:06] <Raylz> Dr_Willis: i did a memtest for 4 hours
[01:06] <Raylz> no errors
[01:06] <fearful> bastid_razor ok, but that still doesn't answer my question, is it normal that the usage of slab should be that high?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Raylz,  Just 4? :)    On my system it showed the bad mem in 4 sec...
[01:07] <fearful> bastid_razor, not really cuasing problems just caught my attention
[01:07] <Raylz> Dr_Willis: dunno, i know that something is terrible broken in this pc, windows acts weird too, but a lot less
[01:07] <bastid_raZor> fearful; slabs?
[01:08] <fearful> bastid_razor, yup press slabtop on your system it shows the output of like the cache and stuff.. which i'm not really familiar with I found this command today
[01:08] <fearful> type*
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Raylz,  that can be hard to track down.. I had a flakey pc.. eventually found a ide cable with one thin cut on the wire on one side...
[01:09] <kanuha> Installed nvidia driver 180 on jaunty, but after login the screen just goes blank. jaunty continues to load in the dark, because I hear the music.
[01:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty kanuha
[01:10] <Raylz> Dr_Willis: there must be some try { do_something();} catch ERORR { } stuff in windows :D
[01:10] <kanuha> bazhang, thx
[01:11] <bastid_raZor> fearful; do you know what slabtop is actually looking at?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Raylz,  i find that windows crashes so much normally.. you dont notice the extra crashes.
[01:11] <fearful> bastid_razor not really thats why I'm asking :p
[01:11] <Raylz> Dr_Willis: it doesnt crash for me, but it doesnt work well, maybe because of the broken hardware
[01:11] <bastid_raZor> fearful;  type man slabtop
[01:11] <Raylz> i just dont know what to replace
[01:12] <Raylz> would be better to buy a new one for 300 bucks
[01:12] <Raylz> any tools to trace down hardware errors?
[01:12] <Raylz> like some special knoppix version
[01:12] <fearful> bastid_razor, I did...
[01:12] <fearful> bastid_razor I even showed you the output...
[01:13] <fearful> bastid_razor I'm trying to get you to tell me what it is... if not I wouldn't be asking
[01:13] <steelcityjim> i have recently created a samba share drive and am having problems moving files from windows pc's to ubuntu
[01:14] <steelcityjim> getting copy protected or drive full?
[01:14] <steelcityjim> any suggestions
[01:14] <fearful> steelcityjim: what drive, try and change permissions?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> steelcityjim,  check the permissions/ownership of the shared directory.
[01:15] <fearful> steelcityjim oh I didn't see the top message you can change the permissions
[01:15] <steelcityjim> what should the authentication mode be?
[01:15] <steelcityjim> user serer share domain or ads
[01:16] <n\median> hello! can anyone help me? i accidentally erased passwd file! how can i recover it?
[01:16] <mint> can someone tell me why we can't install on a usb stick like a regular drive?
[01:16] <steelcityjim> will share allow any user to have access?
[01:16] <bemuse> Hey, simple question, how do i hide icons in the taskbar thing.
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> mint,  it can be done.. but can cause problems. Ive seen guides on doing it, but never tried. I just use the live-cd type methods.
[01:17] <doubletoker> what's up
[01:17] <doubletoker> I just installed 8.10
[01:18] <doubletoker> and now, everything is messed up
[01:18] <kanuha> are resolutions still identified and used in the xorg.conf
[01:18] <jrib> !x |
[01:18] <mint> Dr_Willis: what kind of problems?
[01:18] <jrib> kanuha: see what ubottu said
[01:18] <kanuha> jrib, yes thx
[01:18] <doubletoker> Synaptic Package Manager wont let me install apache, no where in the list
[01:19] <mhall119> kanuha: newer Xorg doesn't use the xorg.conf file for determining available resolutions, it auto-detects them
[01:19] <jawnas> doubletoker: Did you enable the multiverse repos?
[01:19] <Flare183> !universe | doubletoker
[01:19] <mint> Dr_Willis: my bios is fully capable of usb boot and has an option to use usb as a hard drive
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> mint,  grub,  and devices getting reordered (not that big an issue now a days wiuth UUID= in grub and the fstab) and some  issues with the initrd (initramfs?) not having the proper usb drivers built in - i recall..   last i tried was 2+ releases ago. It may not be much of an issue any more
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> mint,  good for it.. thats no guarentee of success. since theres a lot of other little issues that can bite you.  I would research it/google it - in depth to know what to watch out for.
[01:20] <jawnas> Why does OSX look sharper on my screen than ubuntu? Is there a technical reason or is that just my imagination?
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> jawnas,  Imagination :)  from waht ive seen.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> jawnas,  or they got nicer fonts..
[01:20] <Ashok_> can someone help me fix my ati drivers so glx works?
[01:21] <mhall119> jawnas: different resolutions, DPI settings, anti-aliasing, etc
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> jawnas,  you are running the native res of the lcd on both?
[01:21] <mint> Dr_Willis: thanks, good explanation. i just have lots of hdd's and want to test linux
[01:21] <jawnas> I read somewhere that they used vector images for everything on the screen, I found that hard to believe
[01:21] <constantine_> has anyone had any good/bad experience with juniper vpn?
[01:21] <steelcityjim> how do I open permissions in ubuntu desktop
[01:21] <jawnas> Dr_Willis: Yes, I am. Both on the same exact resolution
[01:21] <jrib> steelcityjim: what do you mean?
[01:22] <Ashok_> anyone? ati driver help so i can run glx?
[01:23] <n\median> hello! can anyone help me? i accidentally erased passwd file! how can i recover it?
[01:23] <mhall119> n\median: not much you can do about that
[01:23] <n\median> isnt passwd- backup?
[01:24] <jawnas> Try some data recovery software
[01:24] <jawnas> ext3 isn't very friendly when it comes to those, though.
[01:24] <Crescent_4rZ> irc.mild.net
[01:24] <mhall119> n\median: do you still have the shadow file?
[01:24] <n\median> whats that?
[01:25] <doubletoker> should I have anything in my Software Sources under Authentication
[01:25] <mhall119> n\median: the file where all the hashed passwords are stored
[01:25] <mhall119> /etc/shadow
[01:25] <mhall119> it would at least tell you what user accounts you had in /etc/passwd
[01:25] <steelcityjim> if files are listed as read only in windows can they be copied?
[01:25] <doubletoker> I can't seem to install APACHE or MYSQL, they aren't in my list
[01:26] <jawnas> steelcityjim: Yes they can
[01:26] <doubletoker> when I type apache in synaptic nothing is there
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[01:26] <steelcityjim> im unable to copy files from windows to my samba share can anyone assist
[01:26] <doubletoker> yea I already did that, using apt-get, don't allow me to get the packages either
[01:26] <rdw200169> doubletoker, just use tasksel
[01:26] <doubletoker> ok
[01:26] <n\median> mhall119 yes
[01:26] <doubletoker> ty rdw
[01:26] <n\median> i have it
[01:27] <n\median> now what?
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !who
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> steelcityjim,  i find its often a good idea to read the 'using samba' book in the 'samba-docs' package. it has  some examples of making public shares and troubleshoioting guides/tips. and it has good fundamental info on using samba.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[01:27] <mhall119> n\median: you can't restore your passwd file, but you can probably re-use 90% of a working copy from another box
[01:28] <n\median> i would love that
[01:28] <n\median> how can i do that?
[01:28] <doubletoker> haha
[01:28] <doubletoker> tasksel
[01:28] <mhall119> do you have another Ubuntu box?
[01:28] <n\median> no
[01:28] <Ashok_> can anyone help me get glx working on my ati drivers?
[01:28] <n\median> i have not
[01:28] <mhall119> do you have a LiveCD?
[01:28] <doubletoker> : aptitude failed (100)
[01:28] <n\median> i havent... its a rented vps
[01:29] <mhall119> vps?
[01:29] <doubletoker> guess I'm back to reinstalling debian on this
[01:29] <steelcityjim> cannot access or replace make sure disk is not full or file is not being used
[01:29] <steelcityjim> why would i be getting this error
[01:29] <n\median> vps - virtual private server...
[01:29] <mhall119> oh
[01:29] <mhall119> just ask the people you're renting it from to help you restore it
[01:29] <n\median> :S
[01:29] <bjt8764> i have an irc question
[01:30] <n\median> non working hours
[01:30] <jawnas> If it's managed then they should have backups
[01:30] <bjt8764> how can i see the names of other people in this room  ?
[01:30] <Ashok_> can anyone help me getting glx set up for my ati driver? right now its broken....
[01:30] <mhall119> you don't have 24/7 support?
[01:30] <H4ck3r07> hey
[01:30] <n\median> i have not... thats premium service
[01:30] <bjt8764> how can i see the names of other people in this room  ?
[01:30] <H4ck3r07> does anyone know how to program in cd
[01:30] <bjt8764> is there a command to show this information ?
[01:30] <mgolisch>  /names ?
[01:30] <H4ck3r07> c
[01:31] <mhall119> bjt8764: type /help for all commands
[01:31] <bjt8764> thanks mhallig :)
[01:34] <bjt8764> if you like ravey music.. like i do.. then you might like this:  http://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/archive/homePage.php
[01:34] <constantine_> I'm trying to setup open VPN but it is asking for a gateway, except I use multiple routers - how can I set up so that it picks up the strongest one, like network manager does?
[01:34] <bjt8764> or.. you might not :)
[01:35] <jrib> bjt8764: please stay on the topic of ubuntu support
[01:35] <Jufis> how to find out (via terminal) the linux distribution's name and version?
[01:35] <steelcityjim> ok how do i set the permissions on samba share desktop
[01:35] <jrib> Jufis: lsb_release -a will work if you are using ubuntu
[01:35] <Weehawky> Why would be something to make an ISO in Ubuntu ?
[01:36] <passive1> Is there Mono 2.2 deb package for ubuntu ?
[01:36] <shabati> constantine_: Is OpenVPN actually complicated? Or am I just not smart enough for it?
[01:37] <Jufis> jrib: it's a friend's server so I don't know if it's ubuntu or not. I connect via ssh
[01:37] <jrib> Jufis: well did you try the command?
[01:37] <Jufis> wait
[01:38] <constantine_> shabati: what?
[01:38] <bjt8764> is there anyway i can 'ping' a user .. to alert him/her back to the irc chat room  ?
[01:38] <steelcityjim> how do i set the permissions on ubuntu desktop my samba share is not allowing files to be moved to it
[01:38] <jrib> bjt8764: just use his nick.  Most clients will grab the user's attention then
[01:38] <bjt8764> coool.... thanks jrib :)
[01:39] <Jufis> bjt8764: and if you want to set it up for yourself, then look for something called "highlight" :)
[01:39] <__mikem> jrib, apt keeps freezing whenever I try to download the nvidia drivers
[01:39] <Weehawky> I'm seeing that I can try cat /dev/scd0 > /some/place/name.iso ?
[01:39] <jrib> __mikem: pastebin.  and what exactly do you mean by freezing?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  often one uses 'dd' instead of cat.. but i think cat can work also
[01:40] <steelcityjim> samba share in desktop?
[01:40] <__mikem> jrgp, it doesn't matter how I do it, if I try to enable desktop graphics, or if I try to enable restricted nvidia drivers, when the window that says "downloading packages" comes up, the progress bar stays at 0%
[01:40] <steelcityjim> anyone?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[01:40] <__mikem> jrib, ^
[01:41] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, Will this make the ISO bootable as if I copied it from CD to CD , or DVD to DVD ?
[01:41] <spaceBARbarian> hi is there a way to synchronize the contents of two folders ?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  its an identical clone.. so yes. it should
[01:41] <steelcityjim> how does samba communicate with windows passwords and access from windows networks
[01:41] <jrib> __mikem: use apt-get in a shell
[01:42] <__mikem> jrib, I don't know the name of the package
[01:42] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, OK.  I'm looking for a way to keep my XP on disk.  I'm tired of digging it out for virtualbox
[01:42] <SchighSchagh> hey guys. is there a config file or something where I can set what keyboard layout gnome should use?
[01:42] <SchighSchagh> (running intrepid, fully updated)
[01:42] <zayn> 'ello
[01:42] <jrib> __mikem: nvidia-glx-VERSION
[01:42] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, Also I want to make a spare copy anyway.
[01:42] <Tardious> Everytime I boot my laptop up My wifi asks me for myh keyring password (is there anywway to turn that off so it just connects automatically ?
[01:42] <constantine_> shabati: how did that answer my question?
[01:42] <__mikem> jrib, so nvidia-glx-177?
[01:42] <Weehawky> (to CD also)
[01:42] <jrib> __mikem: sure
[01:42] <Jufis> jrib: didn't work. (the question about how to find out what distribution and version via terminal)
[01:42] <spaceBARbarian> hi is there a way to synchronize the contents of two folders ?
[01:43] <snegtul> rsync
[01:43] <Weehawky> I have another question.  How come when I sudo ifconfig eth0 down , it doesn't stay down and reconnects ?
[01:43] <jrib> spaceBARbarian: unison or rsync
[01:43] <jrib> Jufis: then it's not ubuntu
[01:43] <Weehawky> is it possible for it to stay disconnected even though there is things trying to reconnect ?
[01:43] <coky> hi any1
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  i do a similer thing for my os disks :)
[01:43] <coky> im having trouble uninstall gyache
[01:43] <jrib> Jufis: sometimes you can get a hint from /etc/issue but this isn't an ubuntu question anymore
[01:43] <coky> on ubuntu intrepid
[01:44] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, I just have to find a way for it to not want to authorize
[01:44] <snowman> i'm running from a live session at the moment, when i try to install, the installer doesn't detect my hdd for partitioning. Any ideas?
[01:44] <Jufis> jrib: thanks anyway.
[01:44] <constantine_> Shabati: if I wanted Nick Burns, I'd go to my company's computer department, just because it seems basic to you, doesn't mean I haven't tried to find the answer, try to remember that former windows users aren't used to hunting down 5 steps to install their apps or their 10 settings
[01:44] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis,  I'm afraid I'll mess up my licensee as if I installed it on a second computer.
[01:44] <__mikem> jrib, that never happened before, and this is a fresh install. Whats going on?
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> snowman To get live cd to show your missing hard drive this often helps..At start or install press F6 and add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[01:45] <Tardious> Everytime I boot my laptop up My wifi asks me for myh keyring password (is there anywway to turn that off so it just connects automatically ?
[01:45] <shabati> Jufis: ls /etc | grep release
[01:45] <jrib> __mikem: ?
[01:45] <zayn> anyone know how to reinstall my vista OS to the GRUB menu?  (in simple terms plz - newbie here!!)
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  that will most likely be the case.   of course discission of ways around that.. are proberly not  for here. :)
[01:45] <__mikem> jrgp, the terminal worked fine, but whenever I tried to download the nvidia drivers through the GUI, it just hanged at 0%
[01:45] <__mikem> darn it
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > zayn
[01:45] <__mikem> jrib, ^
[01:45] <Weehawky> lol
[01:45] <SchighSchagh> how do I configure what keyboard layout the Guest account on my computer (intrepid, fully updated) uses? obviously I can set it when I log in, but I don't want to have to do that every time I log in since it clears all settings when I log out...
[01:46] <Tardious> zayn,  You have the vistas CD still ? Just boot into that and select "Fix"
[01:46] <Chaorain> Does any one know what clone output does in compiz?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> zayn,  in the strt of the menu.lst file is an example 'entry' for booting windows from the first hard drive/first partition. I  normally just uncomment it. and  it works.. if yoy are meaning to ask HOW to add a windows entry to the grub menu
[01:46] <zayn> the laptop didn,t come with the disc
[01:46] <SchighSchagh> Chaorain: it should output the same thing to both monitors
[01:46] <snowman> jack, the install from live, or from startup?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> snowman when you start live
[01:47] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, The ISO from disk seems to run twice or better faster than from the DVD+-RW drive
[01:47] <Chaorain> SchighSchagh, Ah thats why it acts weird with one monitor
[01:47] <Chaorain> SchighSchagh, thanks
[01:47] <snowman> jack, will try...be back soon
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  in vmware/birtualbox. yes.. using a .iso file will be MUCH MUCH faster
[01:48] <jrib> __mikem: don't know.  You are referring to jockey-gtk?
[01:48] <__mikem> jrib, I think so
[01:48] <__mikem> I don't know for sure what its called
[01:48] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, Would it be possible for me to not have to run virtualbox as root ?
[01:48] <jrib> __mikem: try opening it in a terminal
[01:48] <Chaorain> Does anyone know its possible to get my bluetooth mouse to link with ubuntu on my laptop without unlinking it from vista on the same laptop
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  i dont recall having to run it as root..
[01:49] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, It complains of things after making the fixed disk space
[01:49] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis,  (if I don't)
[01:50] <__mikem> jrib, one other problem, I installed nvidia's drivers now, but I can't get desktop-effects to enable. ANd I know they have worked on this machine in the past
[01:50] <jrib> __mikem: did you reboot?
[01:50] <unused_bagels> I'm trying to compile an intel 945G graphics chipset and I got this when I typed make: http://pastebin.com/m16241da7
[01:50] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, "The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect."
[01:51] <__mikem> jrib, never had to before :(
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  i dont recall ever having that problem. But i havent messed with  vbox in linux in a month+
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  theres the issue then it iseems.. user not in the right groups.
[01:51] <jrib> __mikem: yes you did, or at least load the module and restart X...
[01:51] <Weehawky> Dr_Willis, How would I fix that
[01:51] <__mikem> jrib I'll try restarting
[01:51] <SchighSchagh> how do I configure what keyboard layout the Guest account on my computer (intrepid, fully updated) uses? obviously I can set it when I log in, but I don't want to have to do that every time I log in since it clears all settings when I log out...
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> !groups
[01:52] <Tardious> Everytime I boot my laptop up My wifi asks me for myh keyring password (is there anywway to turn that off so it just connects automatically ?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  i do it the old-skool way and edit the /etc/groups file :)
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> Guys, quick question. Which models of nVidia does the new Xorg with Intrepid have incompatibility issues? More specifically, right now I am on hardy and running the 180.22 from nVidia's site on a 6150 Geforce Go. Would this have any trouble with the newer Xorg?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Weehawky,  but thats not the safext way
[01:52] <jrib> Weehawky: adduser USER GROUP
[01:53] <Weehawky> jrib, So I would "adduser n virtualbox" ?
[01:53] <spaceBARbarian> would it better to use Dropbox or shared folders in vbox ?
[01:53] <jrib> Weehawky: your username is "n"?
[01:53] <Weehawky> yes
[01:53] <evilGUI> Is it a bad idea to use the root mysql account?
[01:53] <__mikem> jrib, rebooting did not work
[01:53] <jrib> Weehawky: ok, well you need to prefix it with "sudo " and "virtualbox" is not the group in the error message, so you probably want to change that
[01:54] <jrib> __mikem: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:54] <__mikem> hold on
[01:54] <Weehawky> jrib, I am not understanding how I would add myself to the "group"
[01:54] <unused_bagels> I'm trying to compile an intel 945G graphics chipset and I got this when I typed make: http://pastebin.com/m16241da7
[01:54] <spaceBARbarian> what is a .deb file ?
[01:54] <jrib> Weehawky: sudo adduser NAME_OF_USER NAME_OF_GROUP
[01:54] <unused_bagels> spaceBARbarian: double click.
[01:54] <evilGUI> spaceBARbarian: It's a package.
[01:54] <Jufis> jrib: cat /etc/issue solved the problem
[01:55] <unused_bagels> spaceBARbarian:  it's like an exe or msi file, you use it to install programs.
[01:55] <Weehawky> jrib, And how do I know the 'group's name'
[01:55] <jrib> Weehawky: the error message you pasted before has the name of the group
[01:55] <Weehawky> oh
[01:55] <WebcamWonder> !deb | spaceBARbarian
[01:55] <Weehawky> vboxusers
[01:55] <jrib> Weehawky: yes
[01:55] <rambo298> is there an ubuntu tool to display the initial response to an HTTP GET?  I want to verify that the HTTP status response is what it should be
[01:56] <Weehawky> jrib, my user is added.  I guess I need to logout/in /
[01:56] <jrib> rambo298: telnet?
[01:56] <Weehawky> ?
[01:56] <fabio> there is a firefox plugin
[01:56] <jrib> Weehawky: yes
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> rambo298: curl/cuil?
[01:56] <rambo298> jrib: so telnet to port 80 and manually enter the HTTP GET?
[01:56] <unused_bagels> spaceBARbarian:  it's like an exe or msi file, you use it to install programs.
[01:56] <unused_bagels> I'm trying to compile an intel 945G graphics chipset and I got this when I typed make: http://pastebin.com/m16241da7
[01:57] <jrib> rambo298: using the proper syntax, yeah
[01:57] <webterror> howto install old linux-headers-2.6.24 package in ubuntu?
[01:57] <webterror> i'm using 2.6.27 kernel version now.
[01:58] <__mikem> jrib, http://pastebin.com/d2968b0d6
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> Which models of nVidia are no longer supposed to be upgrade for the newer version of Xorg in Intrepid?
[01:58] <spaceBARbarian> is there a text editor equivalent to Notepad++ for ubuntu ?
[01:58] <rogue_> hello
[01:58] <webterror> but i wan't install 2.6.24 kernel headers package;
[01:58] <rogue_> hello
[01:58] <fabio> webterror, dpkg -i ??
[01:58] <unused_bagels> I'm trying to compile an intel 945G graphics chipset driver and I got this when I typed make: http://pastebin.com/m16241da7
[01:59] <jrib> __mikem: you aren't using the nvidia driver
[01:59] <jrib> in your xorg.conf-
[01:59] <jrib> unused_bagels: why are you compiling it?
[01:59] <Ashok_> can anyone help me get glx set up on intrepid with ati drivers?
[01:59] <webterror> dpkg -i
[01:59] <__mikem> jrib, I know for a fact I installed it, so why is my xorg.conf file not right?
[01:59] <jrib> __mikem: the two are not related
[01:59] <maquina4> hola
[01:59] <snowman> @jack, restarted then forgot what to do. lol silly me, what was it again?
[01:59] <rogue_> hey guy's i got a good Q and i need a descent A on usb devices
[02:00] <maquina4> alguien que hable español
[02:00] <__mikem> jrib, also see my pm
[02:00] <Pici> !es | maquina4
[02:00] <unused_bagels> jrib because my driver sucks, and I am desperately trying to play some dang games without having to dual boot.
[02:00] <rogue_> hello
[02:00] <rogue_> ....
[02:00] <jrib> __mikem: specify nvidia as the driver and restart X
[02:00] <unused_bagels> or buy a new grafix caRD cos i'm poor.
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> !hello | rogue_
[02:00] <Ashok_> can anyone help me get glx set up on intrepid with ati drivers?
[02:00] <rogue_> hey can you help
[02:01] <jrib> unused_bagels: what exactly are you compiling?
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> !anyone | rogue_
[02:01] <__mikem> jrib, I don't know how to specify it, as I never had to do so in the past. I never had these problems with this in the past.
[02:01] <spaceBARbarian> is there a text editor equivalent to Notepad++ for ubuntu ?
[02:01] <jrib> spaceBARbarian: gedit?
[02:01] <rogue_> yea can you help
[02:01] <rogue_> it's on usb devices
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> rogue_: If you ask your question, sure I might be able to help
[02:01] <fabio> jrib do you lie gedit ?
[02:01] <spaceBARbarian> jrib: gedit doesnt have nearly as men features tho
[02:01] <fabio> like*
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: vim? emacs?
[02:02] <jrib> fabio: I use vim, but gedit is fine
[02:02] <progre55> hey people! A quick modprobe.d question please.. in the alsa-base file, can I have two nearly same options? say, "options snd-hda-intel model=hippo" and "options snd-hda-intel model=vaio position_fix=0"??
[02:02] <__mikem> jrib, ^^
[02:02] <jrib> spaceBARbarian: are you aware of the many plugins available for gedit?
[02:02] <Ashok_> I get an error when I try to run the glxgears command using the proprietary ati drivers
[02:02] <jrib> __mikem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117903/ is mine.  If you want it to "just work" then debug jockey-gtk
[02:02] <spaceBARbarian> jrib: i dont, how do i instlal the plugins ?
[02:03] <mai-five> are there any security issues in chgrp update-manager?  i'm sure there's a better way around what i'm thinking but this seems easier... assuming now potential security issues...
[02:03] <mai-five> also assuming i can chgrp of update-manager
[02:03] <jrib> spaceBARbarian: there are many available in edit -> preferences already.  See also http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[02:03] <spaceBARbarian> okay thks
[02:03] <rogue_> webcamwonder
[02:03] <jrib> mai-five: what are you trying to do?
[02:04] <progre55> hey people! A quick modprobe.d question please.. in the alsa-base file, can I have two nearly the same options? say, "options snd-hda-intel model=hippo" and "options snd-hda-intel model=vaio position_fix=0"??
[02:04] <WebcamWonder> rogue_: ?
[02:04] <WebcamWonder> !pm | rogue_
[02:04] <rogue_> private chat
[02:04] <rogue_> ok
[02:04] <unused_bagels> jrib I can't find any other way to install it.  synaptic's full of stff I don't understand, and the intel website had this one.
[02:04] <mai-five> well i don't want a user(s) in sudoers but i want to automate updates without me there to enter password
[02:04] <Obituary> hi
[02:04] <rogue_> as far as a usb device goes
[02:04] <jrib> unused_bagels: *which* one?
[02:04] <rogue_> there are solder points
[02:05] <lard|arse> savvas: bug report finally posted (had to decide what to write and to follow guidelines for bug reports on that package), link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329278 - will I receive e-mail whenever there is activity on this bug report?
[02:05] <Obituary> can you please tell me why my computer goes slow when i enter to a game??
[02:05] <Obituary> with ubuntu
[02:05] <__mikem> jrib, okay, it STILL isn't working
[02:05] <rogue_> vcc, gnd, d+, d-
[02:05] <jrib> __mikem: you restarted X?
[02:05] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | rogue_
[02:05] <mai-five> btw its 8.04
[02:05] <Obituary> i have 8.10
[02:06] <__mikem> jrib, yes
[02:06] <jrib> __mikem: pastebin the files I asked you to pastebin before again
[02:06] <__mikem> hold on
[02:07] <rogue_> if i were to put a dip switch on the d- wired solder point would it produce a lag but still keep connected as a device and just lag or is this not possible?
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; you could add something like : username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/aptitude : to your sudoers so that you wouldn't need a passwd for aptitude to run.. not the best way but it works
[02:07] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> trying to update my system, i get the following error: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic_2.6.24-23.46_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" can anyone help?
[02:08] <rogue_> anyone ????
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> rogue_: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Please take your questions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <spaceBARbarian> can someone explain how to use dropbox for ubuntu, i installed the package but i dont know where to go from here
[02:08] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; please don't do that.
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Log out/Login... And you should see a dropbox icon in the notification area
[02:09] <chu_> I was wondering if anyone here is running 9.04?
[02:09] <jrib> !jaunty | chu_
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | chu_
[02:09] <fabio> chu_, me
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> chu_; #ubuntu+1
[02:09] <rogue_> anyone have knowledge on wiring usb devices
[02:09] <Obituary> me 8.10
[02:09] <__mikem> jrib, nvm, had a typo in the file
[02:09] <Obituary> but games doesnt work
[02:09] <chu_> !jaunty
[02:09] <jrib> rogue_: not here, take that elsewhere please
[02:09] <rogue_> ???
[02:09] <Obituary> i installed nexuiz and cant move
[02:10] <rogue_> where
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | rogue_
[02:10] <rogue_> kk thx
[02:10] <rogue_> exit
[02:10] <unused_bagels> jrib: did you catch that up thar?
[02:10] <spaceBARbarian> how do i get mirc to inser the name i doubleclick in the chat box ?
[02:10] <jrib> unused_bagels: yes, did you catch my response?
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Use tab completion. Enter a first few characters, and hit tab
[02:10] <job> help please
[02:11] <unused_bagels> jrib: which one what? card, or game?
[02:11] <Sa[i]nT> How do I add myself to the fuse group?
[02:11] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: i know about that, but i thought there was also a way to simply double click on someone's name and have it copied to the chatbox
[02:11] <zamarax> hi in this video the user has a compiz fusion plugin that kind of bumps windows one in front the next when they click on them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fTh0x3xLE&feature=PlayList&p=FE8D0432C129C592&playnext=1&index=1 does anyone know wha that is? I'm trying to get the same effect
[02:12] <Sa[i]nT> I'm trying to sync my iphone with ubuntu.
[02:12] <fabio> adduser
[02:12] <bastid_raZor> Sa[i]nT; you could manually edit /etc/group
[02:12] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Don't know about that. Most people over here don't use mIRC since we are on Linux :)
[02:12] <Ashok_> http://www.imeem.com/electronicmusic/music/NsacUrkz/tiesto_driving_to_heaven/
[02:12] <Ashok_> whoops
[02:12] <Ashok_> wrong thing on the clipboard....
[02:12] <job> ubuntu doesn't recognize new sound card.  help please
[02:12] <progre55> hey people! A quick modprobe.d question please.. in the alsa-base file, can I have two nearly the same options? say, "options snd-hda-intel model=hippo" and "options snd-hda-intel model=vaio position_fix=0"??
[02:12] <Ashok_> I'm having trouble with glx on intrepd with the ati proprietary driver
[02:12] <Ashok_> @job is it a x-fi?
[02:13] <job> sorry don't understand x-fi
[02:13] <Ashok_> the card
[02:13] <Ashok_> a creative x-fi
[02:13] <Ashok_> ?
[02:13] <job> Dynex card
[02:13] <Ashok_> huh...there goes my idea
[02:13] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: i logged in and out and i still dont see anything for dropbox, i should add that im using Xubuntu as guest in virtuabox
[02:14] <job> works with vista
[02:14] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Oh Xubuntu. Then you won't see any graphics attached to dropbox. The dropbox plugin is for nautilus (gnome)
[02:14] <mai-five> i was thinking something along the lines of a script to run "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" but not needing the sudo because the user is in the same group as update-manager (which is currently gid root)
[02:14] <unused_bagels> SO! One guy told me he set up GEM and phoronix, and now he can play games with his intel graphics chipset....
[02:14] <wartalker> how to know which bash i am runing
[02:14] <thesnowman> is there any way to mount multiple partitions automatically on startup?
[02:14] <unused_bagels> how would I go about doing that?
[02:15] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: However, the daemon would be working in the background (hopefully), see if you have a ~/Dropbox/ and try putting some files in there
[02:15] <mai-five> but if there are security flaws....  or hell, if that's even the right program...
[02:15] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; you could switch out aptitude for apt-get and have a script that runs the program..
[02:15] <WebcamWonder> !fstab | thesnowman
[02:16] <thesnowman> ok doke thanks
[02:16] <job> no luck then???
[02:16] <SchighSchagh> how can I make persistent changes/configuration to the Guest account (running intrepid, fully updated)
[02:16] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: it cant find that folder
[02:16] <spaceBARbarian> i guess it wont work then
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> job: lspci, to get a list of the hardware attached, your sound card should show up
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: I am pretty sure you can make it work if you want to try to fool around with it
[02:17] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: i think it might be easier for me to just install ubuntu lol
[02:17] <unused_bagels> One guy told me he set up GEM and phoronix, and now he can play games with his intel graphics chipset.... how would I go about doing that?
[02:17] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: i need fast performance so should i install an older version maybe "(running Vbox)
[02:17] <mai-five> aptitude could work too.... but i was hoping it'd be non-interactive... just a yes-to-all as it were.... the user is not terribly savvy you see
[02:17] <job> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller
[02:18] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Well, Xubuntu is driven towards a lower end pc, so it shoudl be fine. If you want, you can manually start the daemon and it should sync everything int he background
[02:18] <mib_v07zdy> Any staff here?
[02:18] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: why?
[02:18] <lstarnes> mib_v07zdy: staff of what?
[02:19] <Ashok_> can anyone help me get glx working on my system?
[02:19] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: any clue where i can find info on how to manually start it ?
[02:19] <mib_v07zdy> nvm. I want to make a dvd instead of cd from the ubuntu downlaod. Is that possible?
[02:19] <fabio> Ashok i use open mesa
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: See if you have a ~/.dropbox-dist/dropbox (this should be a hidden folder)
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: .dropbox-dist should be hidden
[02:19] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; aptitude with the -y option does that
[02:19] <Ashok_> fabio: whats the difference?
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> !dvd | mib_v07zdy
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> mib_v07zdy: Oops, not the factoid I wanted
[02:20] <fabio> are you using open source radeon ?
[02:20] <mib_v07zdy> me?
[02:20] <Ashok_> no...to get the x server to run i had to sell my soul to the proprietary driver devil
[02:20] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder" no hidden dropbox files / folders in ~
[02:21] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: So, no /.dropbox-dist ?
[02:21] <mib_v07zdy> is there a way to do what i want?
[02:21] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: So, no ~/.dropbox-dist ?
[02:21] <job> ubottu, hope that was for me.  i will try those pages. thanks
[02:21] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: yeah nothing
[02:21] <Ashok_> fabio: does that mean i cant use openmesa?
[02:21] <Sa[i]nT> Anyone has any exp syncing their iphone with ubuntu?
[02:21] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: lemme try reinstalling the package
[02:21] <fabio> Ashok_ my radeon card is only supported by radeon so i use the mesa opengl
[02:22] <mib_v07zdy> is there a site to look at?
[02:22] <fabio> but i suppose that for the fglrx driver there is something different
[02:22] <mai-five> lol thanks bastid i think i'll use aptitude instead of apt-get from now on.... but barring a change to sudoers, i still need administrative privs.... is that not something that's dicated by gid?
[02:22] <WebcamWonder> mib_v07zdy: DVD: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[02:23] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: reinstalled the package, still no .dropbox stuff
[02:23] <mib_v07zdy> umm.... will the cd version work?
[02:23] <SchighSchagh> how can I make persistent changes/configuration to the Guest account (running intrepid, fully updated)
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Perhaps it is b/c dropbox plugin itself doesn't start to download the dropbox daemon. Goto their forums, and grab their forum builds, and extract it using the command they give. That should bring in the daemon for you
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; editing the /etc/sudoers with that info i gave you will only affect aptitude. that will let aptitude run without having to type a passwd
[02:24] <green__> hi, the sound on my laptop doesnt work, I'm using 8.10 and I've tried all the fixes in the forum, can someone help me?
[02:24] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: meh, ill just install hardy
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> !sound | green__
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: You can make it work if you want to. It just won't work as "hassle-free". But GNOME is less minimal than XFCE. So a little slower in your VB
[02:25] <mib_v07zdy> WebcamWonder, if I put the cd version on a dvd-r, will it work?
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> mib_v07zdy: DVD versions are available. Why do you want to make your own DVD?
[02:25] <Xenos> Hm. Newb question: How do I make a keyboard shortcut to start an application? (Like, say, a file manager with ctrl+alt+f )
[02:26] <secvuln> Hello
[02:26] <secvuln> I have a slight problem.
[02:26] <mib_v07zdy> WebcamWonder: because I do not know how to do it with a cd. Will it load in boot?
[02:26] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: would it be beneficial to do install 8.04 over 8.10 in terms of performance ? i have a good graphics card but a slow HD and only 2gb RAM.
[02:26] <mai-five> bastid_raZor: thank you, i'll give it a shot... unfortunately i have to wait until monday
[02:26] <green__> green@green-laptop:~$ !sound |
[02:26] <green__> bash: !sound: event not found
[02:26] <green__> ?
[02:26] <bastid_raZor> Xenos; system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> green__, ! stuff is 'bot' commands in the channel
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !bot | green__
[02:27] <zcat[1]> is there a way to make the taskbar clock text white instead of black?
[02:27] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; i like to use aptitude safe-upgrade
[02:27] <green__> ah ok
[02:27] <mai-five> safe-upgrade?
[02:27] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Hardy is LTS. So, it would be supported for a greater amount of time. In terms of performance, shouldn't be much diff
[02:27] <Xenos> bastid_raZor:  Yes, that lets me set keyboard shortcuts to specific window tasks, etc. I want to set keyboard shortcuts to open specific applications
[02:27] <mib_v07zdy> WebcamWonder:  How do I install Ubuntu with the CD version?
[02:28] <secvuln> I have a live cd. But I have ubuntu installed on an external harddrive. However, the box's BIOS does not have a boot from usb option. Is there any way I can boot into the usb from the live cd?
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> !install | mib_v07zdy
[02:28] <glen_> Hello
[02:28] <glen_> Does anyone here use Webmin?
[02:28] <Gumby`> Does anyone here know if there is a way I can tell if my nic knows its connected to a gigabit switch or whether its in 100mb/s mode
[02:28] <jrib> !webmin | glen_
[02:28]  * secvuln bans head against wall
[02:29] <green__> !sound
[02:29] <glen_> Actually, it seems to be working ok
[02:29] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: Whats LTS again ?
[02:29] <glen_> But my problem is a module in it
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> !LTS | spaceBARbarian
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: There is a factoid for everything :)
[02:29] <glen_> Does anyone here also use WU-FTP?
[02:29] <spaceBARbarian> WebcamWonder: well if its not much performance diff then i might as well go with intrepid
[02:30] <xfm> Hello! I work in bash. I would like to stock the result of a pipeline into a var. Is it possible?
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> spaceBARbarian: Since it is in a VB, it won't matter much anyways in terms of hardware
[02:30] <glen_> Well, does anyone know of a user or group who can include anyone with read/write access?
[02:30] <xfm> something like .... | var = echo
[02:30] <glen_> Huh?
  I have a live cd. But I have ubuntu installed on an external harddrive. However, the box's BIOS does not have a boot from usb option. Is there any way I can boot into the usb from the live cd?
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> xfm: #bash would be a better resource, I believe
[02:31] <jrib> glen_: what does that even mean?
[02:31] <glen_> What does what mean?
[02:31] <bonhoffer> what does the $! variable in bash do?
[02:31] <jrib> glen_: what you said...
[02:31] <xfm> WebcamWonder: yeah thanks
[02:31] <glen_> Ok, what I mean is, I want webmin full and complete access to a certain folder, so to what group and or user do I make the folder under?
[02:32] <mai-five> bastid_raZor: i really appreciate your help in this matter
[02:32] <jrib> glen_: webmin is not supported
[02:32] <glen_> But that was because of this package thing.
[02:32] <bastid_raZor> Xenos; xbindkeys may be what you're looking for :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560&page=1
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> mai-five; glad i could help. good luck.
[02:33] <glen_> jrib, what do you think?
[02:33] <Xenos> bastid_raZor: Thanks :-)
[02:34] <glen_> jrib: Any response?
[02:34] <jrib> glen_: webmin isn't supported :/  If you want information about permissions see ubottu
[02:34] <jrib> !permissions > glen_
[02:35] <bastid_raZor> Xenos; good luck.
[02:36] <mib_v07zdy> Question: Should I downlaod both versions of Ubuntu? The WebServer and the other?
[02:36] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: why?
[02:37] <jrib> bonhoffer: #bash maybe
[02:37] <mib_v07zdy> I don't Know. Does anyone have the desktop version? What dies it have?
[02:37] <bonhoffer> jrib, thanks
[02:37] <mib_v07zdy> *does
[02:37] <zayn> if anyone can offer a newbie to ubuntu some grub menu help, please pm me
[02:37] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: if you want to use it on a desktop, use the desktop version.  If you want to use it on a server, use the server version.  They use the same repositories but have a different set of default packages
[02:37] <jrib> !ask | zayn
[02:38] <mib_v07zdy> Can you explain that? I want to use it for a webserver on my laptop
[02:39] <zayn> does /dev /sada7 mean I have 7 partitions?
[02:39] <mib_v07zdy> with apache, mysql, and php
[02:39] <secvuln> zayn, it can
[02:39] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: do you want a gui?  Or are you just sticking it in a closet somewhere?
[02:39] <illumin8> Will running your monitor in a lower resolution speed up grapical applications?
[02:39] <secvuln> zayn, but not nesserialy
[02:39] <mib_v07zdy> gui? I am a web coder, and i want to code on my laptop
[02:40] <WebcamWonder> zayn: sudo fdisk -l, to see a list of all partitions
[02:40] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: install the desktop version and then install apache and friends with:
[02:40] <jrib> !lamp | mib_v07zdy
[02:40] <zayn> I have multiple ubuntu and xubuntu entries but vista has disappeared.  any ideas as to how to reinstall it?
[02:40] <secvuln> zayn, don't
[02:40] <mib_v07zdy> I do not have internet. Do I need internet? If so, where can I find the rps?
[02:40] <mib_v07zdy> rpms
[02:40] <Xenos> Man is keyboard shortcuts in Ubuntu a mess :-/ Can't even figure out where the <super> + r is currently set (does weird zoom thing, annoying as f***)
[02:40] <secvuln> :)
[02:40] <WebcamWonder> zayn: Assuming you haven't overwritten the vista partition, you need to add a chainloader to your grub
[02:41] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: ubuntu doesn't use rpms
[02:41] <illumin8> vista is not cooperative when it comes to shareing space on a drive, many times it will entirly whipe your system to install itself
[02:41] <WebcamWonder> Xenos: Compiz, assuming you have it enabled
[02:41] <mib_v07zdy> oh, do i need internet?
[02:41] <zayn> ok how do I do that please?
[02:41] <bastid_raZor> Xenos; in compiz probably
[02:41] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm > Xenos
[02:41] <secvuln> anyone here know about ploop boot manager?
[02:42] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: no, you'll need to get the packages for what you want though.  It may be easier to install the server version and then use the alternate cd to install ubuntu-desktop as well.  I don't know if the alternate cd contains apache, php, etc
[02:42] <kindofabuzz> anyone use winetricks? i get this when trying to install stuff using winetricks: err:process:__wine_kernel_init boot event wait timed out
[02:42] <Xenos> Got compiz, not set there as far as I can see (general options->key bindings)
[02:42] <Snakedoc> tritium, ya here?
[02:42] <WebcamWonder> kindofabuzz: #winehq would be more helpful
[02:42] <mib_v07zdy> ok, so where can i find the alternet install?
[02:42] <kindofabuzz> WebcamWonder, yeah you're right
[02:42] <jrib> !alternate | mib_v07zdy
[02:42] <WebcamWonder> Xenos: You need to find and disable it in the compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:43] <zayn> so, after sudo fdisk - l - how do I safely remove unwanted partitions?
[02:43] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: you are using the alternate cd as a package repository after installing the server version (or at least that is my suggestion)
[02:43] <Xenos> WebcamWonder: Yes. Compizconfig-settings-manager,->general->general options_>key bindings
[02:43] <green_> !sound
[02:43] <mib_v07zdy> ok, can I download that?
[02:43] <Xenos> WebcamWonder: Nothing with <super> r or <mod4> r there
[02:43] <illumin8> zayn, i use gparted and you simply select them then remove them.
[02:44] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: yes...
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> Xenos: Compiz doesn't keep its key bindings centralized, they are scattered across all plugins. You woul dneed to persoanlly check all the plugins. I would suggest start with the ones involving zoom
[02:44] <zayn> i have gparted illumin8, thanks I'll try that
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> !gparted | zayn
[02:44] <robertc1985> can anyone here help me pinpoint a trouble in my WUBI installation?
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> !anyone | robertc1985
[02:44] <Xenos> WebcamWonder: Oh my :-/ Thanks.
[02:45] <zayn> thanks all - I'm off to give it a go
[02:45] <illumin8> i run games like savage in my ubuntu 8.04 install, will disabling compiz and desktop effects speed up the grapical applciations?
[02:45] <robertc1985> ok, why is my wubi installation all of a sudden very slow and programs like pidgin and firefox seem to freeze alot
[02:45] <mib_v07zdy> is it the torrent?
[02:45] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: no
[02:46] <node357> illumin8, yes it will
[02:46] <illumin8> node357, thank you
[02:46] <green_> hi, I cant get my sound to work, I've tried a lot of guides, can anyone help me
[02:46] <Xenos> WebcamWonder: Got it, thanks for the help :-)
[02:46] <WebcamWonder> robertc1985: Has it been consistantly slow for quite some time now?
[02:46] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: well yes, that's one way, but it's also on the download page
[02:46] <WebcamWonder> Xenos: No problems, glad to help
[02:46] <secvuln> I have a live cd. But I have ubuntu installed on an external harddrive. However, the box's BIOS does not have a boot from usb option. Is there any way I can boot into the usb from the live cd?
[02:46] <Xenos> And thanks to the rest of you as well
[02:46] <robertc1985> no, it seems to have started a few weeks ago
[02:46] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know of a good program for managing my ipod under ubuntu?
[02:46] <jrib> !ipod | spaceBARbarian
[02:46] <jrib> Sergeant_Pony: see above
[02:46] <mib_v07zdy> i need the alternet
[02:46] <Sergeant_Pony> jrib, thanks
[02:47] <jrib> mib_v07zdy: yes, it's on the download page.  And it's also the torrent ubottu linked you to
[02:47] <robertc1985> when i first installed wubi 804 back in november it was very fast, but now it's grinding to a halt
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> robertc1985: Wubi is not meant to be for long term use, b/c of the way it handles partitions
[02:48] <histo> robertc1985: doesn't wubi run ubuntu under windows? or does it reboot?
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> histo: It runs Ubuntu natively off a large file inside the NTFS drive loopback mounted as an ext3 file partition
[02:48] <green_> !sound
[02:48] <illumin8> wubi runs under windows yes
[02:48] <robertc1985> it reboots, and i get a bootloader that lets me choose between OS'es
[02:49] <mib_v07zdy> how do i get to the alternet?
[02:49] <WebcamWonder> green_: I don't know much about this, but did you make sure that your sound card is even detected first?
[02:49] <green_> yes, i used aplay -l
[02:49] <robertc1985>  it's one big file, about 28 GB
[02:50] <WebcamWonder> green_: Ok, did you check whether the volume was not muted?
[02:50] <mib_v07zdy> lol
[02:50] <WebcamWonder> !alternate | mib_v07zdy
[02:50] <secvuln> No one seems to be able to answer my question.
[02:50] <histo> robertc1985: computers are like air conditioners they work fine until you start opening windows
[02:50] <green_> yes, i unmuted all possible playback in volume control, and put them on full
[02:50] <mib_v07zdy> lol
[02:50] <robertc1985> lol too true
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> green_: Ok, did you try playing something from aplay, specifically directly to your card?
[02:51] <green_> how do i do that?
[02:51] <robertc1985> well since i've actually had luck in windows occasionally running defrag, i wonder if that would help any?
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> robertc1985: Since you have a 30 gig file, it should help given that it is very unlikely that 30 gig is written as a linear file on your NTFS
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> green_: aplay -D<device_name from aplay -l> <filename>, I think that is the format
[02:52] <robertc1985> what i find odd is that only small programs tend to freeze, while when i watch movies in totem or play games like second life everything seems fine
[02:52] <Xenos> :-/ xbind-keys doesn't seem to work   (as in, the shortcuts it make don't do anything)
[02:53] <secvuln> No one seems to be able to answer my question. :'(
[02:54] <WebcamWonder> secvuln: We would have answered it, if we knew the answer. Contrary to popular belief, we do not hold the entire world's intelligence on this channel :)
[02:55] <histo> robertc1985: defragging ext3 is not necessary
[02:55] <WebcamWonder> histo: He was talking about NTFS
[02:55] <Xenos> using metacity seems to do better, tho
[02:55] <histo> robertc1985: something else is causing your issue but I don't know much about how wubi works.
[02:55] <histo> WebcamWonder: isn't wubi using ext3
[02:55] <robertc1985> wubi is similar to virtualization i think
[02:56] <WebcamWonder> histo: Please read my prior description as to how wubi works. It is not similar to virtualization
[02:56] <WebcamWonder> It runs Ubuntu natively off a large file inside the NTFS drive loopback mounted as an ext3 file partition
[02:56] <robertc1985> wubi actually uses ntfs or fat 32
[02:56] <histo> WebcamWonder: if it loopbacks and mounts it as ext3 t5hen its ext3
[02:56] <histo> WebcamWonder: and that file would not need to be defragged nor could it.
[02:57] <WebcamWonder> histo: Yes, but since it is actually inside an NTFS partition, it is very unliekly that it would be stored linearly, and if NTFS is defragged, performance can be improved
[02:57] <daniel928413> ubottu
[02:57] <dj_> help
[02:57] <daniel928413> ok
[02:57] <daniel928413> whats prob
[02:57] <inflex> I want to add some options to my xorg.conf to improve the perforance of my Intel 945GME graphics, however my xorg.conf is -blank- in /etc/X11 ... where does Ubuntu keep it's Xorg configs these days?
[02:57] <dj_> touchpadandpartof keyboarddont work
[02:57] <dj_> hence bad spacing
[02:57] <dj_> cutsinandout
[02:58] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Same place. There is a default x.org ubuntu defaults to, if it can't find one
[02:58] <green_> i got an eror
[02:58] <green_> green@green-laptop:~$ aplay -D "STAC92xx Analog"  test.mp3
[02:58] <green_> ALSA lib pcm.c:2196:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM STAC92xx Analog
[02:58] <green_> aplay: main:583: audio open error: No such file or directory
[02:58] <FloodBot2> green_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <daniel928413> floddBOt2
[02:58] <green_> sorry
[02:58] <inflex> WebcamWonder: okay, thanks... curious, since it did such a good job at adapting when I switched from my Duron box to my new Asus B202 PC
[02:59] <daniel928413> hello Should i switch to ubuntu from XP
[02:59] <green_> i put my file in my home directory, should it be somewhere else?
[02:59] <robertc1985> ok ubuntu is in a file that appears to ubuntu as en ext3 partition when in reality it is a file named root.disk on my c:\ drive
[02:59] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Yeah, it has had its good moments with some people, and its bad with others
[02:59] <daniel928413> Whats better UBUNTU or WIn XP
[02:59] <inflex> trolls.
[03:00] <prince_jammys> daniel928413: ubuntu xp is best
[03:00] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | daniel928413
[03:00] <robertc1985> daniel, i only use xp when wine simply won't work
[03:00] <inflex> use VirtualBox if you must
[03:00] <WebcamWonder> green_: Home should be fine, since that is the default directory a new terminal default to. Are you sure that is the same name of the device you see from aplay -l?
[03:01] <bastid_raZor> robertc1985; then why are you messing with wubi? do a real install
[03:01] <robertc1985> well i'm going to see if i have any luck running defrag in windows
[03:01] <robertc1985> well i'm not good at partitioning
[03:01] <robertc1985> wubi makes it easier
[03:01] <todd> I am trying to access some flash content, which one should I pick, to be sure my cam will work?
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> !flash | todd
[03:02] <green_> aplay -l gives me $card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[03:02] <lmao> i cant seem to get skype to work while ive got a media file open in the background, a media file in a browser window open or a stream open. how do i fix this?
[03:02] <ari_stress> happy valentine's day!! :)
[03:02] <chetnick> which command to use to check if certain kernel module is enabled?
[03:02] <green_> i tried aplay -D with both "STAC92xx" and "STAC92xx Analog"
[03:03] <WebcamWonder> green_: get the cardname from, asoundconf list
[03:03] <WebcamWonder> chetnick: lsmod
[03:04] <chu_> Where do all my programs install (using synaptic), and if I was to create a separate partition for it, would that mean the same programs were installed across any OS that used that partition? Or is it slightly more complicated? :)
[03:04] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Not possible without PA. Skype uses Alsa by default. And you need your soundcard to support hardware mixing, or dmix for software mixing
[03:04] <lmao> WebcamWonder, how do you do that
[03:04] <green_> asounfconf list returned $ Names of available sound cards : Intel
[03:04] <lmao> WebcamWonder, what is PA?
[03:05] <lmao> oh pulse?
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> chu_: Slightly more complicated. Most installs bring in files to /lib, /bin, etc. I think what you are more thinking about is a separate home
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> !home | chu_
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Yeah, pulseaudio. There is a wiki out there that instructs on how to properly configure skype for PA, if you use it that is
[03:05] <exodus_ms> chu_, are you trying to keep your applications on one partition separate from you os partition? (I know some people using windoze do that sometimes)
[03:06] <lmao> where is it WebcamWonder
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> lmao: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:06] <chu_> I have my /home in a separate directory, but I'm wondering, if I was to upgrade to 9.04 would I still have (for instance) Celestia installed?
[03:06] <lmao> 8.10
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> chu_: If you upgrade, yes
[03:06] <exodus_ms> yes
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> lmao: And, do you use PA? Or not?
[03:06] <lmao> no i dont use it currently
[03:06] <chu_> s/directory/partition
[03:06] <giaco> hello
[03:07] <daniel928413> hello
[03:07] <giaco> my webcam was working on the previous ubuntu release, but it's not after the update to the least version
[03:07] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Then you need dmix to enable software mixing (which I have no clue with). I would recommend to ask more people here, and google around
[03:07] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | giaco
[03:07] <daniel928413> if anyone has problems ask me
[03:07] <giaco> thank you WebcamWonder
[03:07] <exodus_ms> you think with a name like WebcamWonder you could get more help out of him :P
[03:08] <giaco> lol, it's funny
[03:08] <giaco> yes
[03:08] <giaco> where's HardDiskWonder?
[03:08] <lmao> WebcamWonder, no i dont use it currently
[03:08] <giaco> :-D
[03:08] <WebcamWonder> exodus_ms: I was waiting for that comment :P... Everytime :)
[03:08] <Alterax> It's HDW's night off.
[03:08] <chu_> But if I was to install, say xubuntu on a separate partition, would it be able to find the same Celestia install (I would be using the same /home)
[03:08] <exodus_ms> WebcamWonder, cool, good to see you are a good sport :)
[03:09] <WebcamWonder> chu_: /home contains all your personal files. So, it won't find the program installed, but if you were to install it, it would pick up your saved config
[03:09] <WebcamWonder> Alterax: I hear, he had quite a trash
[03:09] <warfie43> hi everybody!
[03:09] <WebcamWonder> exodus_ms: :)
[03:09] <Aquina> hy#
[03:10] <lmao> WebcamWonder
[03:10] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Oh, sorry. Missed your reply in the comments, hold up
[03:10] <green_> webcamwonder, asoundconf gives me a help page, and asoundconf list just returns "Intel"
[03:10] <lmao> ok
[03:10] <WebcamWonder> green_: Then try only "intel" in the aplay
[03:11] <warfie43> I come bearing gifts and seeking assistance...
[03:11] <lmao> WebcamWonder, ok
[03:11] <WebcamWonder> lmao: I can't take guarentee for this, but here is what a search turned up, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[03:11] <bemuse> Hi, can anyone tell me how to trigger this script
[03:11] <bemuse> http://pastebin.com/f5dce2eb0
[03:11] <WebcamWonder> warfie43: You can keep your gifts, and still take out assistance (if we can help you that is)
[03:11] <green_> i have same error
[03:11] <Aquina> I have questions regarding this (http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html) especially the FAQ. Can someone tell me wether I should use the properetary driver I automatically received via apt-get with Xubuntu or wether to choos the one from the ATI website?
[03:11] <Alterax> Warfie43 -- What's the trouble?
[03:11] <chu_> To get involved in 9.04 testing, I need to create a Launchpad account, anything else?
[03:12] <WebcamWonder> chu_: Just start testing, and see if it breaks, and then report it
[03:12] <warfie43> @Webcamwonder&Alterax :D
[03:12] <chu_> Alright
[03:12] <Alterax> Aquina, I'd stick with the standard ones from the repo, if only because updating them will be smoother in the future.
[03:12] <WebcamWonder> Aquina: The one from apt-get are supported as repos, since they have been tested by other people
[03:12] <warfie43> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid on Intel Soft (fake) raid :S
[03:13] <WebcamWonder> !fakeraid | warfie43
[03:13] <Alterax> Though to be honest, I'm getting good ati support with the open-source driver.
[03:13] <Aquina> thanks, Alterax! But what about ATI Cat. Control Center?
[03:13] <anteaya> I need Ragel 6.2 which is not available via synaptic for Hardy. Compiling requires g++ which I didn't have but which I installed via synaptic and also GNU Make, which gives me a lot of synaptic choices but no clear indication which is the correct package. Any thoughts?
[03:13] <Alterax> Never really used it, Aquina.
[03:13] <Alterax> Sorry I can't be of help there.
[03:13] <WebcamWonder> anteaya: install build-essential, it should bring in everything
[03:13] <Alterax> anteaya, try build-essential
[03:13] <Aquina> I see. :-)
[03:13] <nickrud> anteaya, install   build-essential ; it will get you the right packages
[03:14] <Alterax> Like WCW said. ;-)
[03:14] <bastid_raZor> Xenos; http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/configure-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-on-ubuntu-256955.php
[03:14]  * nickrud is wols
[03:14] <anteaya> WebcamWonder: thanks I will do, I looked at build-essential earlier but the description said i didn't need the package, i will return there, thanks all
[03:14] <anteaya> Alterax, nickrud thanks
[03:14] <chu_> Umm, how do I create a backup of my current /home?
[03:14]  * WebcamWonder realized that he came here to ask a quick question few hours back. Ended up as quite the opposite
[03:15] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, be careful. That happened to me nearly 4 years ago
[03:15] <chu_> Thank you very much! :)
[03:15] <levity_island> hola #ubuntu, maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know of a mysqldump-like tool for MS SQL Server that's available for ubuntu?
[03:15]  * Alterax nods
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> chu_: You can simply tar it (compress as a archive), to create a backup
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: :(
[03:16] <chu_> Sweeeet, thanks very much, I'm getting excited about upgrading to 9.04 ahahah
[03:16] <ronzo> !wifi
[03:16] <prince_jammys> green_: do aplay -L to see the names of the devices. example: if you see front:CARD=Live,DEV=0 ,  then use aplay -D front ...
[03:16] <warfie43> I've been googling for days... already found those pages... downloaded and tried the Alternative install CD and the Ubiquity technique... but nothing seems to work...
[03:16] <Alterax> !food
[03:16] <prince_jammys> green_: capital L
[03:16] <ronzo> warfie43, what are you trying to do?
[03:17] <Alterax> !video chat
[03:17] <warfie43> ronzo: trying to install Ubuntu on Intel soft raid
[03:17] <green_> do i enter the whole first line of aplay -L's out put?
[03:17] <WebcamWonder> !info b43-fwcutter
[03:17] <ronzo> warfie43, you need to install the raid software for the comptuer first, let me find what package it is really fast
[03:18] <prince_jammys> green_: no, before the ':'
[03:18] <prince_jammys> green_: front:CARD=Live,DEV=0  <-- 'front'
[03:18] <tnnc> can someone help i am running ubuntu 7.10 and i am unable to access the network manager in gnome saids i dont have pression to do so
[03:18] <green_> ok
[03:18] <prince_jammys> green_: try that.
[03:18] <ronzo> warfie43, when you boot up the live disk, install raidutils, and see if that will do it / recognize the raid
[03:18] <green_> aplay: main:583: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[03:18] <ronzo> warfie43, sudo apt-get install raidutilsd
[03:18] <ronzo> warfie43, *raidutils
[03:19] <secvuln> Is there a program that will allow me to boot a usb from a live cd?
[03:19] <prince_jammys> green_: ok, that's better :)
[03:19] <green_> :)
[03:19] <prince_jammys> green_: at least it understands, ha
[03:19] <warfie43> thanks Ronzo... I'll try that...
[03:19] <bastid_raZor> secvuln; only if your BIOS supports it
[03:19] <ronzo> warfie43, np, hope that helps!  =)
[03:19] <secvuln> a pox on this outdated BIOS!
[03:20] <secvuln> I guess I'll just have to update it. :(
[03:20] <O__o> hi
[03:20] <secvuln> 0__o, you have the best name ever
[03:20] <green_> how do i find out what is using front
[03:20] <O__o> hi how come ubuntu wont automount WD passport drive
[03:20] <giaco> WebcamWonder, omg, easycam2 is in french!
[03:20] <giaco> what's the meaning? Ce driver n'est pas compatible avec Easycam, ou l'orthographe est incorrecte ... ou il n'existe pas :)
[03:21] <WebcamWonder> giaco: Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
[03:21] <stryd_one> hi all
[03:21] <infomomo> hello :D
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> giaco; http://translation2.paralink.com/
[03:21] <Ashok_> i'm unable to change themes with emerald .7.1
[03:21] <Ashok_> *.7.2
[03:23] <tnnc> can someone help i am running ubuntu 7.10 and i am unable to access the network manager in gnome saids i dont have pression to do so
[03:23] <stryd_one> hope someone can help... in synaptic or aptitude/apt-get from the command line, my system seems to be confused about which is the newer version of any app... for example, when i tried to install sun-java6-jre, it had dependency issues because it tried to install from the hardy repo, but i have the jre from hardy-updates installed. by forcing the version to the one from hardy-updates, everything worked fine...
[03:23] <Ashok_> help with emerald not changing themes? anyone?
[03:24] <anteaya> WebcamWonder, nickrud, Alterax thanks for the direction for build-essential, it did the job, my thanks
[03:24] <WebcamWonder> anteaya: Glad to help
[03:25] <anteaya> :)
[03:25] <green_> prince_jammys, how do I force front to play my file
[03:25] <prince_jammys> green_: i have no idea
[03:25] <green_> all of the other things from aplay -L are busy too
[03:26] <kitche> green_: use a player that does not use OSS maybe?
[03:26] <illumin8> I want to enable the trash icon on my desktop, what command should i run in the alt-f2 to open the nautilus to make systemwide changes?
[03:26] <green_> kitche im not sure what u mean
[03:26] <WebcamWonder> illumin8: You can enable it from gconf-editor, or from Ubuntu Tweak, looks under apps/nautilus
[03:27] <illumin8> Thats the one thank you :)
[03:27] <Athenon_> I'm trying to change my password in phpmyadmin.  how do i do it?  It keeps letting me in with the old password, even though I've updated it everywhere I can think of, including the phpmyadmin config and the information_schema database.
[03:27] <kitche> green_: players that only use OSS can not use the sound device if something else is using it
[03:27] <ScottG489> Shit I just accidentally removed my 3 menus from my top pannel. How can I put them back?
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> ScottG489: Right click on the panel -> Add to panel, and select System Menu/Application Menu, or something along those names
[03:28] <illumin8> WebcamWonder, Thanks again that was what i needed.
[03:28] <green_> nothing on my computer can play any sounds
[03:28] <kitche> !language | ScottG489
[03:28] <green_> right now
[03:28] <prince_jammys> ~aaaaadwwergfh1~
[03:28] <n\median> guys, when i do this: sudo nmap -sU -O localhost
[03:28] <n\median> i get: 5353/udp open|filtered zeroconf
[03:28] <bastid_raZor> ScottG489; Main Menu is the option you're looking for in add panel.
[03:28] <ScottG489> WebcamWonder: ok whew, i was afraid when I ddi that it was going to be set back to its defaults
[03:28] <n\median> i want to open another port like that one..
[03:29] <n\median> how todo?
[03:29] <nicholashubbard> hey guys, just transferring files between a raid 10 and a single drive that is also connected to the raid card be causing my CPU usage to go through the roof..... seems a little strange
[03:29] <lstarnes> n\median: you need to run something that uses another port
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> ScottG489: Eveyrhting you see on the GUI is very much customizable :)
[03:29] <n\median> ok
[03:29] <n\median> ill try
[03:29] <n\median> thanks
[03:29] <lstarnes> n\median: ports aren't listed as open unless something is listening for a connection on that port and the firewall isn't blocking it
[03:30] <ScottG489> WebcamWonder: Well thats the problem, I had it really customised and i was afraid it was just going to add the default pannel back in
[03:30] <steelcityjim> can anyone assist in setting up permissions for samba file share
[03:30] <n\median> hmm
[03:30] <lmao> how do i undo recent changes i made to two configuration files?
[03:30] <steelcityjim> can see the linux device on my windows network but its not allowing me to move files to it
[03:30] <steelcityjim> says im not authorized
[03:30] <n\median> well lstarnes
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Did you save a backup of those config files? Or, did you use gedit to edit the files?
[03:31] <lmao> WebcamWonder, i used gedit
[03:31] <n\median> i want to add teamspeak2 to a port ex 8767
[03:31] <n\median> i did: iptables -I INPUT -j ACCEPT -p udp --dport 8767
[03:31] <n\median> is that correct?
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> lmao: gedit makes an automatic backup of all edited files. Just goto the directory you edited the file from, and you should see a file name, originalfilename~, that is your backup
[03:32] <lstarnes> n\median: you don't need to do that.  All ports are allowed to be used by default
[03:32] <n\median> hmm
[03:32] <lstarnes> n\median: all you need to do is start something that uses that port
[03:32] <WebcamWonder> lmao: Move the original file to somehting like, filename.doesntwork, and move the backup to the real filename
[03:32] <steelcityjim> anyone help with configraton of samba share
[03:32] <n\median> i did start teamspeak
[03:32] <smileybri2> I love my laptop since putting Ubuntu (Intrepid) on it, but it does not play streaming video properly. If I visit a site like msnbc.com the deo starts and plays most of the way through, but then the stream stops and once the player catches up to the download it stops and plays no more. This is a consistent and persistent error that does not occur in my Windows Virtual Machine on the same computer. Can anyone point me to a solu
[03:32] <n\median> and the port still missing in that report
[03:32] <lstarnes> n\median: did you tell it to use that port?
[03:32] <n\median> yes
[03:32] <n\median> its that port by default
[03:32] <illumin8> Could anyone recommend a high quality remote support application that would allow me to to connect to windows systems (I used teamviewer when on windows, but wine doesnt work well with file transfer if needed)
[03:32] <lstarnes> n\median: you might need to manually scan it with nmap -p 8767
[03:33] <lmao> WebcamWonder, k thansk
[03:33] <lmao> thanks
[03:33] <lstarnes> n\median: er, nmap -p 8767 localhost
[03:33] <WebcamWonder> illumin8: vnc?
[03:33] <illumin8> vnc?
[03:33] <WebcamWonder> !vnc | illumin8
[03:33] <n\median> lstarnes: 8767/tcp closed unknown
[03:33] <illumin8> Thanks yet again
[03:33] <n\median> :\
[03:35] <n\median> how do i see running process
[03:35] <steelcityjim> samba file share setup anyone?
[03:35] <steelcityjim> need some help
[03:35] <WebcamWonder> steelcityjim: Did you read the standard documentation provided by ubuntu?
[03:35] <tnnc> can someone help i am running ubuntu 7.10 and i am unable to access the network manager in gnome saids i dont have pression to do so
[03:36] <steelcityjim> yes webcam its not helping
[03:36] <WebcamWonder> steelcityjim: Did you allow anonymous writes in your smb.conf?
[03:36] <steelcityjim> well i did not configure at the command line
[03:36] <steelcityjim> i got the desktop gui
[03:37] <steelcityjim> do I still need to command line stuff to configure?
[03:37] <lstarnes> n\median: ps aux
[03:37] <WebcamWonder> steelcityjim: I don't really know. I haven't worked much with samba. BUt the smb.conf does have an option of globally disabling anony. writes
[03:37] <stryd_one> hope someone can help... in synaptic or aptitude/apt-get from the command line, my system seems to be confused about which is the newer version of any app... for example, when i tried to install sun-java6-jdk, it had dependency issues because it tried to install from the hardy repo, but i have the jre from hardy-updates installed. by forcing the version to the one from hardy-updates, everything worked fine... Why would it not select th
[03:37] <stryd_one> e newer version?
[03:38] <WebcamWonder> stryd_one: It is expected, since the jre was installed from a higher version, it might be that the dependency for sun-java6-jdk was actually lower than the current installed package
[03:39] <n\median> lstarnes: this is weird! i started the teamspeak with one user. then i switched to admin, and did that cmd.. but the process isnt there
[03:39] <lstarnes> n\median: it likely died
[03:39] <lmao> i cant find a file in the trash i just deleted
[03:40] <stryd_one> WebcamWonder, thank for helping... that's the thing though... the latest version of the jdk, installed fine - but i had to force it to the latest version.... when i let the system select it without forcing, it chose the older version
[03:40] <lstarnes> lmao: how did you delete it?
[03:40] <lmao> rm
[03:40] <lstarnes> lmao: rm completely skips trash
[03:40] <Hemebond> erg. Tribal Trouble has borked my audio. I'm getting the ol' rapid noise loop. I can stop the Alsa service to stop all sound, but it's still there when I restart the service. Anything I can do without restarting my session?
[03:40] <WebcamWonder> stryd_one: I do believe there is a list of preffered source of packages, where the hardy proposed is at a lower priority than regular. I am not sure though
[03:40] <n\median> teamspeak2-server_startscript status
[03:40] <n\median> the server seems to be running
[03:41] <Aquina> tnnc, try entering "sudo network-admin"
[03:41] <lmao> how do i get a new /etc/esound/esd.conf file anyone?
[03:41] <Snakedoc> tritium, ya here?
[03:41] <stryd_one> aha, that would explain it, i'll look into that thanks WebcamWonder :)
[03:41] <lstarnes> lmao: try reinstalling esd
[03:41] <ZI> asu
[03:41] <ZI> ady
[03:41] <Aquina> stryd_one have you checked the synaptic options?
[03:41] <green_> i removed pulseaudio, and now aplay says  set_params:954: Sample format non available
[03:42] <jmk2> off topic, whats a good site for "rainbow tables"?
[03:42] <lmao> lstarnes, how do you do that?
[03:42] <ZI> hello km cp
[03:42] <dee25> i have a intel 82865G and a E153fp dell montior
[03:42] <lstarnes> lmao: sudo aptitude reinstall esound
[03:42] <dee25> i cant seem to change the resolution im stuck between
[03:42] <dee25> 800x600 and 600x480
[03:43] <stryd_one> Aquina, yeh it's set to "always prefer the highest"
[03:45] <Aquina> stryd_one and synaptic installs 8.04 packets though you're running 7.10 - did I get it right?
[03:45] <stryd_one> Aquina, no i'm running 8.04, and it installs 8.04 packages, but it doesn't select the newest version available, i have to force it
[03:46] <seriouslycgi> i made a boo boo and changed the ownership of the mount point of a directory (its called /store on /dev/hdb2) who is supposed to own the mount point?
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> seriouslycgi; root
[03:46] <raz_-> Anyone knows why the nvidia driver install isn't persistant after reboots on usb-flash-disks running the live image?
[03:46] <seriouslycgi> ok thanks
[03:47] <lstarnes> seriouslycgi: user root, group root to be exact
[03:47] <seriouslycgi> yup thank you. ill change both
[03:48] <Aquina> force is normally only required if there are several versions available and you want to choose a different one. I'd recommend you to use apt-get and reinstall that thing. Also try to cleanup config.
[03:49] <Aquina> There must be somethin' messed up severely
[03:49] <raz_-> Aquina, was this addressed to me?
[03:50] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone , i need to figure out how to get my world of warcraft sounds working :-/
[03:50] <danbhfive_jaunty> GeffIsLegend: did you check the appdb?
[03:50] <Aquina> nos, to stryd_one
[03:50] <raz_-> Aquina, kay.
[03:51] <GeffIsLegend> whats appdb?
[03:51] <warfie43> RAZ_ since nobody more knowledgable than me has answered I'll offer my guess.... if you're booting the live image, no matter if it's on a usb stick, nothing is persistant
[03:51] <danbhfive_jaunty> !appdb | GeffIsLegend
[03:52] <tnnc> aquina i get that liboobs warning and it doesnt come up
[03:52] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, have you checked to make sure sound works in wineconfig first?
[03:53] <raz_-> warfie43, that isn't exactly true. I have installed flash 9 and it is persistant despite reboots.
[03:53] <stryd_one> Aquina, i did use apt-get, same results :( I agree, something ain't right, but i've no idea where to look to try and fix it. I haven't done any kind of weird config to aptitude/apt-get/synaptic aside from adding new repos
[03:53] <Ciolivera> http://www.metroflog.com/ci0livera
[03:53]  * warfie43 pulls his head in....
[03:53] <GeffIsLegend> im pretty sure, i have all the audio settings enabled
[03:53] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, it's: winecfg on the cmd line
[03:53] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, you have to make sure the sound test works there *first*
[03:54] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, b/c if wine can't output sound, WoW never will ;)
[03:54] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169:  yeah i just tested sound it worked, should i enable sound emulation?
[03:54] <daniel928413> hi
[03:54] <daniel928413> bye
[03:55] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, no, i just have Full/44100/16 for the option
[03:55] <seriouslycgi> lstarnes, i changed ownership and group do i need to reboot for changes cos its not letting me in anymore :s
[03:55] <seriouslycgi> oh i need to change mode as well dont i?
[03:55] <lstarnes> seriouslycgi: you shouldn't need to reboot
[03:55] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, are you using the alsa driver?
[03:55] <lstarnes> seriouslycgi: what is the mode set to?
[03:56] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169:  thats what i got , and i got everything in the check boxes checked in also
[03:56] <seriouslycgi> lstarnes, drwxr-xr-x
[03:56] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169: pretty sure all of them are enabled, is this bad? lol
[03:56] <lstarnes> seriouslycgi: that looks correct
[03:56] <tnnc> liboobs
[03:56] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, just use alsa
[03:57] <seriouslycgi> im using thunar but it wont let me in the mount point/directory
[03:57] <seriouslycgi> do i need to re-mount it
[03:57] <lstarnes> seriouslycgi: you might need to
[03:57] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, wine is a bastard about alsa, it will only use the 'default'
[03:58] <GeffIsLegend> oo , hah, should i reset WoW and try it?
[03:58] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, sure, wouldn't hurt
[03:58] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169: kk1min
[03:59] <jony_kalavera> hi i'm having problems with a canon printer ip1600. iget an error which says child process aborted
[03:59] <Dracie_> just use alsa-oss if your having issues with sound in wine
[03:59] <jony_kalavera> what could be the problem
[04:00] <jony_kalavera> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117914/
[04:00] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169: didnt work :-/
[04:00] <baz> whats a good way to restart *conky* to see my config changes?
[04:02] <ziroday> baz: well how do you normally start conky?
[04:02] <kidcrash> y'all got a new user coming your way, just sold a computer and she was excited about the os
[04:03] <ScottG489> As I see it, there are generally 2 ways I open a file, to either view it or to edit it. Its there any program I can use to streamline being able to do this to a file? Say I hold down shift when I double click on a file, it will open the editor i choose instead of a program to view it with. Anyone know of a program like this or have a comment on the idea?
[04:03] <baz> ziroday, by typing 'conky' in terminal
[04:03] <ziroday> baz: okay. try kill it with killall conky
[04:04] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, i don't know then... have you check the config.wtf file to make sure it's alright (for WoW)?
[04:04] <mcstinky> good morning everyone, can anyone tell me why I have to create two profiles in my vnc4server? and upon rebooting, I have to always start the second account, or it says connection dropped, I am on LAN
[04:04] <ziroday> ScottG489: AFAIK there is no utility to do this, can you give an example on one of these files?
[04:04] <baz> ziroday, thats good, thanks
[04:04] <jony_kalavera> does anyone here speaks german?
[04:04] <redvamp128> mcstinky:  I have heard of people adding it to a startup script
[04:04] <GeffIsLegend> ill have to double check, where does the Config.WTF go exactly? which directory
[04:04] <redvamp128> #de | jony_kalavera
[04:04] <ziroday> baz: and then restart it with conky :). Also if conky is running in the terminal you can use ctrl+c to kill it
[04:05] <redvamp128> #du | jony_kalavera
[04:05] <ziroday> !de | jony_kalavera
[04:05] <Aquina> jarco, ich jony_kalavera
[04:05] <mcstinky> redvamp128, thanks! to the google-macine! =D
[04:05] <baz> ziroday, what about making it independent of the terminal
[04:05] <stryd_one> Anyone who is searching for this later might like to know: I found the culprit: /etc/apt/preferences has some pinnings set. I removed them and it's fixed
[04:05] <ziroday> baz: do conky & disown
[04:06] <Aquina> jony_kalavera brauchst Du Hilfe?
[04:06] <jony_kalavera> i dont speak german but i think this forum could be simmilar to my problem. http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/canon-ip2500/?highlight=open#post-1189645
[04:06] <isaac_> For an older computer that will not boot from USB; is there a boot disk that will let you boot from USB?
[04:06] <stryd_one> thanks all, 'til next time! :)
[04:06] <GeffIsLegend> rdw200169: ill have to double check, where does the Config.WTF go exactly? which directory
[04:06] <rdw200169> GeffIsLegend, it should be in the WTF directory of where WoW is installed
[04:06] <ScottG489> ziroday: I can think of a ton of examples. Say you have an image file, you could open gimp to edit it or image viewer to edit it. Thats probably my most common problem but I know I have run into other occasions where i have frequently wanted to edit a file or view it almost an equal ammount
[04:06] <axor1337> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER axor1337 aavifeqeufxh
[04:06] <isaac_> You know how an old Windows 98 boots from floppy, then you point it at the cd drive.  Is there a boot cd that you can then use to boot from USB?
[04:07] <ziroday> ScottG489: sure, well I don't know any way to do that, you might want to put your idea up on brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <bemuse> In future it would be better to do those type of things in the status window axor1337
[04:07] <ziroday> axor1337: you will want to change your password
[04:07] <jony_kalavera> sorry wrong one http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/canon-ip-1500-unter-ubuntu-8.10-32-bit/
[04:07] <Aquina> jony_kalavera existiert das Verzeichnis und hast Du die Rechte dafür?
[04:07] <JabberWalkie> axor1337: not that smartest thing to do
[04:07] <ScottG489> ziroday: Or for a lot of programming files. The IDE I use takes a while to open, say I just want to look at it with a smaller program that formatted it correctly (not just a text viewer)
[04:07] <ziroday> isaac_: you should be able to configure that through the bios
[04:08] <isaac_> ziroday some old computers' BIOS won't boot from USB.
[04:08] <ziroday> ScottG489: yep, it makes sense to me. When you're done submitting your idea ping me and I'll approve it for you
[04:08] <ScottG489> ziroday: Thats something i seriously would like to program myself if i knew how to right now
[04:08] <jony_kalavera> Aquina: i dont speak german i was just asking for anyone who could explain this http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/canon-ip-1500-unter-ubuntu-8.10-32-bit/
[04:08] <ScottG489> ziroday: What does approving it do?
[04:09] <DarthSomething> hi people
[04:09] <ziroday> ScottG489: well when you submit an idea it has to be approved by moderators, to make sure it makes sense etc before people can vote on it
[04:09] <DarthSomething> i've a trouble with my intrepid
[04:10] <ScottG489> oh ok
[04:10] <redvamp128> isaac_:  depending on what the os is on the computer I have heard of the following-- installing linux on a usb stick-- then adding wingrub to point to the usb (which would still use the mbr) if windows is installed.
[04:10] <ziroday> darthanubis: whats not working?
[04:10] <ziroday> darthanubis: whoops, sorry
[04:10] <NoSoyKaseO> habemus...
[04:10] <DarthSomething> ufw or firestarter leave open the icmp and i cannot stay stealth
[04:11] <isaac_> redvamp128 Ouch......... sounds like it could seriously mess up the resident OS.  Do you know anyone who could make a boot cd like that?
[04:11] <DarthSomething> i cannot pass the security test of shieldsup
[04:12] <redvamp128> isaac_:  it is not a big mess let me give you the page to the wingrub-- it is a line added to the boot.ini to point to the wingrub then to boot the linux without major changes.
[04:12] <ziroday> DarthSomething: you are fine, don't worry about it.
[04:12] <illumin8> Appologies if this is not the right question for this area, but i have checked other channels and noone seems to know. I downloaded Savage XR and tried to install it from the terminal but get a error that i am lacking permissions, how can i give myself permissions on it (i have tried right clicking to change them)
[04:12] <DarthSomething> and i've not found an ultimate guide to set up my firewall
[04:12] <redvamp128> isaac_:  WinGrub and Ubuntu <http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p9.html>
[04:12] <DarthSomething> th ziroday
[04:12] <fred__> hi
[04:12] <DarthSomething> tx
[04:12] <ziroday> illumin8: do chmod ugo+r /path/to/executable
[04:12] <illumin8> ziroday, Thank you
[04:13] <Aquina> Sorry jony_kalavera but I think I cannot help you with that. You'd specify your problem a bit more. Generally installing all packets is necessary.
[04:13] <DarthSomething> but i've not undestood if to use ufw is the cause to not be stealth
[04:13] <fred__> who knows a good and easy wfi captif portal
[04:13] <ziroday> DarthSomething: that test was designed for windows computers, not linux futhermore its somewhat outdated
[04:14] <rdw200169> fred__, coovachilli, coova.org or coova.com
[04:14] <DarthSomething> maybe also my router that replies to icmp, but using firestarter i get some alarms
[04:14] <DarthSomething> this things means that i'm not stealth
[04:14] <DarthSomething> if someone ping my pc
[04:15] <aboys> where is mysql_config file ? at apt-get install mysql
[04:15] <rdw200169> fred__, it's an amazing upgrade to the now ancient chillispot captive portal.  complete with DHCP redirection/relay, etc...
[04:15] <ziroday> DarthSomething: do not worry. You are fine.
[04:15] <fred__> thanks
[04:15] <illumin8> ziroday, bash: ./xr_setup-1.0b3-cl_lin_prod.bin: Permission denied after the command given
[04:15] <simplenewb> I'm using sshfs to mount a drive from another computer on my home network, question is how can I write to the drive? Whenever I use sshfs to mount a drive it's read only and I don't know how to make it writable.
[04:15] <riegersn> mplayer starts caching in firefox for videos, then stops and status in player window says 'Stopped' video never plays. Any Idea?
[04:16] <ziroday> illumin8: what does ls -l ./xr* output?
[04:16] <DarthSomething> i'm a little paranoid, i know... but my real problem is to not understand how my firewall works
[04:17] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, if you really want to learn about how linux does firewalling, start reading about ipTables
[04:17] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, smoothwall, ufw, firestarter (etc... etc...) all use iptables
[04:17] <ziroday> illumin8: according to that you didn't do chmod ugo+x ./xr*
[04:17] <DarthSomething> ufw overwrite iptables rules?
[04:17] <ziroday> illumin8: try sudo chmod ugo+x ./xr*
[04:18] <DarthSomething> if i use ufw and firestarter i make something of bad?
[04:18] <ziroday> illumin8: it depends on who owns the file, run it as sudo for now
[04:18] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, no, it's not like that; iptables is always in charge... ufw, in the backround, runs iptables to input the firewall information
[04:18] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, as does firestarter, etc...
[04:18] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, i don't understand your question
[04:18] <step> hey all, anyone tell me why when i make a change to file sharing settings (and the sharing is working) the settings aren't being reflected in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:19] <DarthSomething> ok, they are likes gui for iptables
[04:19] <ziroday> illumin8: and then when doing ls -l ./xr* it should read rwxrwxrwx
[04:19] <illumin8> ziroday, ok thanks ill try that, be right back
[04:19] <ziroday> step: I believe gnome puts the settings elsewhere, but don't know where sorry :(
[04:19] <arghh2d2> frontend
[04:19] <DarthSomething> in this way, i yet can use iptables rules
[04:19] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, yes
[04:20] <step> ziroday, that's my theory.  but google isn't helping me out :(
[04:20] <DarthSomething> and i must write/copy a "not icmp" iptables rule
[04:20] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, if you want more rules for firestarter, for example, you have to add stuff to /etc/firestarter/user-pre or user-post
[04:20] <memphis_> hello?
[04:20] <ziroday> step: what are you trying to do?
[04:20] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, and if you want to take some away, you have to edit /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh
[04:20] <ziroday> memphis_: Hi! How can we help you?
[04:20] <illumin8> ziroday, after trying the sudo mehtod i do get -rwxrwxrwx 1  now. thank you
[04:20] <DarthSomething> tx rdw200169
[04:20] <memphis_> just checking out the digs, I am in Utah
[04:21] <step> ziro: mostly wanted to kill the "printers" share, but i'd like to tweak the browseable setting too.
[04:21] <ziroday> illumin8: awesome! The file executes now?
[04:21] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, keep in mind that iptables is passive, as far as config loading is concerned
[04:21] <maxime> what about the linux file system :P
[04:21] <ziroday> step: can you pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf? I'm not very good with samba but two brains are better then one
[04:21] <memphis_> ziroday: what the topic tonight?
[04:21] <illumin8> ziroday, that it does, quite fast actually :)
[04:21] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, the last firewall frontend to run is the one who owns the firewall;  most firewall apps will flush the old firewall out, and add theirs
[04:21] <illumin8> ziroday, thank you again, i should post this on thier forums?
[04:22] <BZOTKHUIDT> hello
[04:22] <ziroday> memphis_: This is support, something not working you can ask us. To chat you can do so in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:22] <ziroday> illumin8: you could, but the reason its not like that automatically is a security setting
[04:22] <step> ziro:  i'm ok tinkering with the file, i just can't find where gnome's making the changes.  it just isn't using the ones in /etc/
[04:22] <ziroday> illumin8: I believe, I could be wrong
[04:22] <memphis_> well I wanted to ask I have a site www.videogamefixer.com and I wanted to know about getting a Ubuntu distro on a xbox 360
[04:22] <ziroday> step: you could ask in #gnome on irc.gimp.net
[04:23] <richerVE> hi, how can i pair a device with bluez 4.x ??? anyone?
[04:23] <ziroday> irc://irc.gimp.org/#gimp
[04:23] <DarthSomething> finally if i use something likes "sudo iptables -something" i bypass ufw and firestarter?
[04:23] <step> ziro:  thanks, i will.
[04:23] <spasticteapot> memphis_: Not going to be easy. The Xbox 360 uses a version of the PowerPC architechture far more advanced than that ever supported by Ubuntu.
[04:23] <ziroday> woops sorry
[04:23] <illumin8> ziroday, to combine the two commands you sent me they would appear as "sudo chmod ugo+rx /path/to/file" correct?
[04:23] <DarthSomething> or firestarter can overwrite my new rule?
[04:24] <memphis_> how do we whisper (sorry a little new to linux and IRC)
[04:24] <ziroday> illumin8: err sudo chmod ugo+x /path/to/file should do.
[04:24] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, well, unless you flush the firewall, it just adds the new rule to the end of the chain, if you use the -A rule for example
[04:24] <spasticteapot> memphis_: If there IS such a distro, it's going to be oriented towards people wanting to use 360s for distributed computing (such as a render farm), not for, say, media playback.
[04:24] <ziroday> memphis_: you mean message people?
[04:24] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, you can use -I to insert, but that's tricky to use
[04:24] <memphis_> yeah
[04:24] <FoxBlitzz> memphis_ /msg user
[04:24] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, its easier to just modify the user-pre/user-post files
[04:25] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, or edit firewall.sh
[04:25] <FoxBlitzz> Or /query in some clients
[04:25] <n\median> lstarnes: thanks
[04:25] <n\median> i managed to put it working
[04:25] <Kolie_> I made a dvd, and the colors are fine on my windows computer, but under vlc and xine the colors are wrong. background are purple, people are greyed out, its just weird.
[04:25] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know how to get Ubuntu to do something with my M-Audio Audiophile? I did the firmware fix as described on the forums, which allowed ALSA to recognize it as existing, but I can't get anything to play through it.
[04:25] <DarthSomething> rdw200169, what's the simplest way? edit user-pre?
[04:26] <spasticteapot> Kolie_: I have a similar problem, except for me the color depth has been reduced entirely to nil, the contrast is gone, and the sound is muted. :)
[04:26] <Kolie_> I can hear fine, I had to switch to totem-xine
[04:26] <chu_> hey is it possible to "embed" a terminal on the desktop?
[04:26] <Kolie_> or use vlc
[04:26] <Kolie_> But color is wrong in both
[04:27] <ziroday> chu_: I believe so with xwinwrap
[04:27] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, firestarter is pretty smart about *where* it adds the pre and post rules. consult firestarter.sh on where exactly it does this
[04:27] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, it's a relatively simple script to read ;)
[04:27] <jony_kalavera> Aquina: nevermind i found the solution sudo apt-get install libcnbj-2.6 bjfilter-2.6 pstocanonbj
[04:27] <DarthSomething> ok, thanks
[04:27] <jony_kalavera> Aquina: thanx any way
[04:28] <DarthSomething> you're very kind rdw200169
[04:29] <rdw200169> DarthSomething, I try to help, i'm sorry if i sounded rude
[04:29] <DarthSomething> noth, it sounds good ;-)
[04:29] <DarthSomething> tx
[04:31] <owen1> my FF beeps when i scoll with ctrl+down and hit the bottom. can I silent it?
[04:31] <redvamp128> chu_: I did find one guide but it makes a terminal the desktop background- HOWTO: Terminal for desktop background. - Page 10 - Ubuntu Forums <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&page=10>
[04:31] <ziroday> owen1: you can remove the beep all together from all apps with sudo rmmod pcspkr
[04:32] <rdw200169> ziroday, that is one classy fix!  (why didn't i do that?  i just removed the speaker!)
[04:32] <owen1> ziroday: interesting, but i would like only from FF.
[04:32] <ziroday> rdw200169: haha, you can add it do /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to have it not loaded at startup
[04:33] <evertonllins> ]
[04:33] <raz_-> Anyone knows why the nvidia driver install isn't persistant after reboots on usb-flash-disks running the live image? Flash 9 is staying, despite reboots. Nvidia's drivers aren't :/
[04:33] <redvamp128> ziroday:  why not just goto system- preferences -- sound -- then system beep -- uncheck?
[04:33] <ziroday> owen1: hmm for me doing ctrl+down changes tab
[04:33] <tritium> raz_-: why do you say that?
[04:33] <owen1> ziroday: i meant page-down..sorry
[04:33] <_Thorn_> Is ubuntu 7.04 too old to "upgrade" ?
[04:33] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know why sound isn't playing through my USB soundcard?
[04:34] <DarthSomething> see you later!
[04:34] <ziroday> owen1: page down doesn't do it either
[04:34] <raz_-> tritium, because it is what I am currently experiencing?
[04:34] <tritium> raz_-: it's not true in general.  Which driver package did you intsall?
[04:34] <owen1> ziroday: it doen't beep or doesn't scroll?
[04:34] <tritium> install, even
[04:34] <ziroday> owen1: doesn't scroll
[04:34] <owen1> ziroday: weird. nothing happend?
[04:35] <ziroday> owen1: ctrl+pg down changes tabs
[04:35] <raz_-> tritium, the last one, using the ubuntu hardware driver for proprietary drivers menu.. version 180, if I remember correctly.
[04:35] <owen1> ziroday: i know. i am talking about scrolling.
[04:35] <ziroday> owen1: don't know sorry
[04:35] <owen1> ziroday: np
[04:37] <tritium> raz_-: probably nvidia-glx-177, in that case.  -180 doesn't show up in the menu.  What does /etc/X11/xorg.conf list as the driver when you believe the driver doesn't persist?
[04:38] <chu_> I notice sometimes when I close programs, the power-manager crashes (8.10), do I report this as a bug?
[04:38] <chu_> It could be resetting I guess.
[04:39] <raz_-> tritium, hold on, booting.
[04:39] <rakhman> hai
[04:39] <redvamp128> !bugs | chu_
[04:45] <w3wsrmn> :3
[04:47] <evilGUI> any idea why I get -bash: cd: lighttpd: Permission denied
[04:47] <evilGUI> when I try to cd /var/log/lighttpd/
[04:48] <martin_> -,d
[04:48] <ziroday> evilGUI: because its a file not a folder?
[04:48] <martin_> nano try
[04:48] <evilGUI> I tried nano it says it's a folder.
[04:49] <evilGUI> same goes for the mysql log directory
[04:49] <ziroday> evilGUI: can you pastebin ls -la /var/log/
[04:49] <dee25> how u install 915 resolution i have it in my home folder
[04:49] <Stargazer> Is there a way to take a screenshot without shooting the pointer ?
[04:49] <tritium> dee25: that's typically not needed any more
[04:49] <ziroday> Stargazer: I believe ksnapshot can do that
[04:49] <raz_-> tritium, I perfermed an update earlier, as such, I have access to versions 173/177/180 in the "hardware drivers" menu.
[04:49] <Halcyon> hmm
[04:50] <kitche> evilGUI: most likely it's because you need root powers to access those directories so use sudo to access them
[04:50] <dee25> is not?
[04:50] <dee25> im trying to change my resolution
[04:50] <mcstinky> Stargazer, are you using the 'take screenshot' tool? I believe that has an option to not show mouse on picture
[04:50] <Stargazer> Ziroday, is there a native way ? (without using another probram)
[04:50] <evilGUI> http://pastebin.com/m2c3410b2
[04:50] <tritium> raz_-: its inclusion in the menu evidently depends on what hardware is auto-detected.  For many, 180 doesn't show up.
[04:50] <evilGUI> kitche: How would I do that sudo cd?
[04:50] <Stargazer> Mcstinky: just the PrtScrn button. :)
[04:50] <ziroday> Stargazer: I always use ksnapshot as I find it more powerful, sorry
[04:50] <raz_-> tritium, 180 is the "recommended" one.. once I click on "activate", it tells me I need to restart the computer to activate the driver. I do so. It doesn't.
[04:50] <kitche> evilGUI: yes but I would use sudo -i really
[04:51] <_2> what is dir anyway ?    Direct Rendering Infrastructure ?
[04:51] <martin_> eç
[04:51] <tritium> raz_-: what does "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180" reveal?  Is it installed?  Does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf list "nvidia" as the driver?
[04:51] <martin_> bad comand
[04:51] <bemuse> dir = directory?
[04:51] <raz_-> tritium, checking..
[04:51] <ziroday> evilGUI: right, you don't have read permission on that directory
[04:51] <_2> bemuse typo  dri
[04:52] <bemuse> oh i see :P
[04:52] <evilGUI> ziroday: Is it meant to be that way?
[04:52] <ziroday> evilGUI: well its how you set it up. You can change it.
[04:53] <_2> so if i'm not using 3d nor wanting 3d  is there any reason to work on getting dri working ?
[04:53] <raz_-> tritium, "...nvidia-glx-180" indicates: installed (same as candidate): 180.11-0ubuntu1-intrepid1 ... opening xorg.conf.
[04:53] <tritium> raz_-: good
[04:53] <evilGUI> ziroday: How so?
[04:53] <ziroday> evilGUI: sudo chmod ugo+r /var/log/lighttpd
[04:54] <_2> 755
[04:54] <evilGUI> ziroday: You see my problem was this VPS had root enabled by default for some odd reason and I installed a few things as root =(
[04:54] <evilGUI> ziroday: Should I do a reinstall?
[04:55] <raz_-> tritium, yes.. under 'Section "Device"', there is 'Driver "nvidia"'.
[04:55] <ziroday> evilGUI: thats fine, then just ssh in as root
[04:55] <tritium> raz_-: Sounds like it's installed and being used.
[04:55] <raz_-> tritium, keep in mind that I just re-did the 'activate' thing.
[04:55] <martin_> r
[04:56] <evilGUI> ziroday: But that fact that I setup lighthttpd, mysql and PHP as root is that going to come back to kill me?
[04:56] <_2> evilGUI yes absolutely,  reinstalls three or four times a weak until you get good at it,  then never reinstall again.
[04:56] <raz_-> tritium, if I open the nvidia util, it tells me: "You do not appear to be using the NVidia X driver. Please edit your X configuration fiile (just run nvidia-xconfig as root), and restart the X server".
[04:57] <tritium> raz_-: please check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for some clues
[04:57] <_2> so about dri ?
[04:58] <_2> advice welcome,   is there any reason to try to get dri working if i'm not the least interested in 3d ?
[04:58] <raz_-> tritium, I just did a "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X.. Seems that it is now working. As a side effect, the mouse pointer disappeared. I'll try restarting the whole thing to see how persistant it is.
[04:58] <pneves> list
[04:59] <redvamp128> raz_-:  usb mouse? or standard one?
[04:59] <raz_-> redvamp128, laptop touchpad.
[05:00] <_2> ps2 probably raz_-
[05:00] <prince_jammys> _2: nah, grab a beer. dealing with that sounds like potential torture.
[05:00] <redvamp128> raz_-:  I found something the other night while I googled something else about restarting usb from prompt but I would not know where to begin with the touchpad
[05:01] <histo> redvamp128: controlled by X
[05:01] <_2> prince_jammys can i skip the beer too.  that sounds like torture too
[05:01] <histo> redvamp128: synaptics drivers. You could check lsmod but
[05:01] <prince_jammys> _2: ok, a glass of milk
[05:01] <histo> who knows with those things.
[05:01] <_2> lactose yuch
[05:01]  * _2 looks for beer
[05:02] <mcstinky> how about sugar water?!
[05:02]  * histo doesn't have browser right now to look. Installing 8.10 on my main box.
[05:02] <qcjn> hi, somebody suggested to add this to grub "title= Puppy Linux 4   root	=(hd0,1)  kernel=/pup4/vmlinuz ro quiet   initrd= /pup4/initrd.gz
[05:02] <qcjn> so i can choose puppy at start up, beside ubuntu and Xp
[05:02] <_2> seriously   would there be any real use for  dri  other than 3d effects
[05:02] <_2> ?
[05:03] <qcjn> but i wan,t to be sure before making changes to grub
[05:04] <redvamp128> qcjn:  let me check mine-- I have puppy installed
[05:04] <qcjn> redvamp128: thanks
[05:05] <redvamp128> qcjn:  this is what I have for mine-- you may want to add it to the end as an added cushion
[05:05] <redvamp128> qcjn:  title Puppy Linux 412 full install
[05:05] <redvamp128> root (hd1,0)
[05:05] <redvamp128> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 pmedia=atahd nosmp
[05:06] <qcjn> i can see the puppy files in my root, pup_410qcjn.sfs,  pup_save-qcjn.2fs
[05:06] <aina> allow
[05:06] <qcjn> so it should be ok
[05:06] <redvamp128> ahh
[05:06] <aina> allow
[05:07] <chu_> I am using a custom theme, but it says "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed" - Can I find out what theme engine this requires?
[05:07] <redvamp128> qcjn:  yes that looks right -- Mine is a full install though
[05:07] <qcjn> hum, how you did that, took a partition just for puppy ?
[05:08] <redvamp128> qcjn:  yes -- but I forgot that on my other system puppy runs in a directory--
[05:09] <qcjn> redvamp128: how come you've got 2 times root
[05:09] <likuidsilence> can someone confirm this is a bug in 8.10 when mounting NFS shares ?? I get the following mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[05:09] <nickrud> chu_, in the gtkrc file for the theme, look for the engine declaration
[05:10] <redvamp128> qcjn:  let me pastebin it so you can see how it looks without the multiple lines
[05:10] <qcjn> ok
[05:10] <_2> qcjn grub accepts a root path  "(hd0,0)"  and the kernel accepts a root path "root=/dev/root"
[05:10] <redvamp128> qcjn: general pastebin - puppy - post number 1336822 <http://www.pastebin.ca/1336822>
[05:10] <histo> I keep losing consoles any way tot recover them? F1-F4 are gone just blinking cursor?
[05:11] <qcjn> ok
[05:11] <histo> After I log out they won't reset they jsut go to blinking cursor
[05:11] <redvamp128> qcjn:  though I think when 4.1.3 comes out will install that one inside a folder on that partiion.
[05:12] <histo> Its not showing anyone on the tty if I use the who command
[05:12] <fengshaun> hi everyone, how can I dim my screen? (sony laptop vgn-fj270)
[05:12] <chu_> nickrud - where do I find this file? ~/.themes/<theme>/{gtk : gtk-2.0 : metacity-1} ?
[05:12] <_2> histo init is supposed to respawn them,  but if they respown too quickly they will be disabled for x=minutes  >>> init 3 # should reset them
[05:12] <redvamp128> fengshaun:  should be a function key then another key (should be controlled by laptop bios) and not really ubuntu.
[05:12] <nickrud> chu_, it would be <themefolder>gkt-2.0/gtkrc
[05:13] <fengshaun> redvamp128: the func key doesn't work!
[05:13] <nickrud> chu_, erm, gtk-2.0/gtkrc obviously
[05:13] <_2> histo or should i say changing runlevels should reset them.
[05:13] <chu_> thanks nickrud
[05:13] <fengshaun> (it's software controlled I think)
[05:13] <chu_> Yep, found it :)
[05:13] <redvamp128> fengshaun:  hold it down then look for a key that looks like a sun then beside that one should be the dim (you have to hold both down at the same time)
[05:13] <chu_> engine "pixmap"?
[05:14] <nickrud> chu_, that's an engine,yes. the most commonly used one
[05:14] <fengshaun> redvamp128: hahaha that was noob language, but it doesn't work
[05:14] <nickrud> chu_, why your custom theme isn't finding it is another question
[05:14] <_2> histo i think the default is five respawns in 30 seconds.   but not sure.   anyway, check the /var/log/messages   for what might be causing it.
[05:14] <redvamp128> fengshaun:  what is the video card generally they have a setting for gamma which would do the same there
[05:14] <chu_> there's two
[05:14] <chu_> whoops
[05:15] <chu_> there's two #module_paths
[05:15] <fengshaun> redvamp128: it's intel
[05:15] <hanasaki> what is in server vs desktop?  what is the criteria for choosing ?
[05:15] <histo> _2: if I init a different run level how do I get back just sudo init 2 the init 5 or something?
[05:15] <qcjn> thanks, but i don't understand enough.. to play right now in grub..the line root, tells where is the root, Right ?
[05:15] <hanasaki> and what is "studio"?
[05:16] <_2> histo by default runlevels 2 through 5 are exactly alike
[05:16] <histo> _2: well how do I switch to get this fixed?
[05:16] <_2> sudo init [2,3,4,5]
[05:16] <histo> _2: nothing in /var/log/messages that seems relevant by the way
[05:16] <histo> _2: is there a command to see the current runlevel
[05:17] <_2> histo if it's active syslog might also be relevant
[05:17] <darkblue_B> Hey! I use netatalk for AppleShare volumes *every day* and I just ran the updater for Ubuntu and now it *broke*!! this is bad.. I have done everything called for, including setting some magic line somewhere telling the updater not to mess with it.. Where can I go to find out how to remedy this.. :-(
[05:17] <_2> histo runlevel
[05:17] <_2> :)
[05:17]  * _2 watches histo slap his forehead
[05:18] <fourpointfivetb> read an article stating desktop was easier to set up as a noob
[05:18]  * histo ouch
[05:18] <histo> _2: ty that seems to have done the trick
[05:18] <redvamp128> fengshaun:  I am still looking be patient-- but I think Gamma is the settings generally that you can do it with software by moving the slider.
[05:18] <_2> you are selcome
[05:18] <_2> welcome maybe
[05:19] <fengshaun> redvamp128: where can I find that setting?
[05:19] <raz_-> tritium, it seems that after a reboot, I need to run "nvidia-xconfig" and then restart X.. I think it might have to do something with "configured video device" vs "device" section under xorg.conf -- What do you think?
[05:19] <_2> never tryst commandw fron soneome that cant' tpye
[05:19] <fengshaun> I couldn't find it in the menues.
[05:19] <raz_-> and then restart X, for the driver to work again*.
[05:19] <martin_> ffuuuu about http://pastebin.com/m52b0f7e8
[05:19] <martin_> bad concert
[05:20] <tritium> raz_-: I've never seen such a thing happen.  No, that shouldn't be the problem.
[05:20] <_2> histo you still need to find and fix that issue.  just changing runlevels wont keep it from reoccuring
[05:20] <markk^> hi, i have errors on one of my ntfs drives, how can i scan it for errors?!
[05:22] <_2> vbrun40000000.dll
[05:22] <Sago> #mpc