[08:24] <alkamid> vigo: of course I will, I thought it's a well-known fact what the upgrade does (:
[08:24] <alkamid> !backup
[08:24] <mafsi> MachinTruc: The authenticity of host '[<IP_ADDRESS>]:2223 ([<IP_ADDRESS>]:2223)' can't be established.
[08:24] <mafsi> RSA key fingerprint is e0:95:b2:cb:b7:1b:b4:01:76:a1:2b:de:41:47:82:83.
[08:24] <mafsi> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[08:24] <ashlessburn> yes
[08:24] <ashlessburn> lol
[08:25] <MachinTruc> it works, unitheory just did it. Thanks for the help.
[08:25] <vigo> alkamid: Okee dokee, just makes sense to me to back up anything before making any changes or even if a power surge hits or whatever, I am big on backups.
[08:26] <osxfr33k> vigo, that might help with a lot of the warning and install messages.  I just want to catch all tha gets printed  in the terminal window to a text or file
[08:26] <osxfr33k> any simple way of doing this?
[08:26] <chanux> no automoc packag for hardy. Any idea howto get?
[08:26] <osxfr33k> and ita almost 30 minutes of messages
[08:26] <Spike1506> i removed some locals with localpurge, is there any way to restore those?
[08:26] <ashlessburn> how do u see who is online
[08:27] <unitheory> osxfr33k, i think you can append ">> file.txt" (or something like that) to the end of the command
[08:27] <thomthom> jerroome: http://pastebin.ca/1470820
[08:28] <unitheory> osxfr33k, or rather just > file.txt
[08:28] <osxfr33k> ya I think that works for most of the messages but the warning and some minor things don't get printed into the file that way
[08:28] <vigo> osxfr33k: Erm, I use to know that script, is like /mv or something, but with a lot more calls. Yeah, unitheory is on the right track.
[08:28] <osxfr33k> So > rather than >>
[08:28] <unitheory> osxfr33k, for instance if you "ls > list.txt" you get a file with the output of ls
[08:28] <osxfr33k> Will it catch the warning messages?
[08:29] <osxfr33k> how about this
[08:29] <osxfr33k> rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec
[08:29] <osxfr33k> very lengthy
[08:29] <thomthom> I copied and pasted the 2.6.30-5kernel then change it 2.6.30-9. but that didn't work
[08:29] <_ruben> why build a kernel rpm for ubuntu?
[08:29] <unitheory> osxdude, rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec > report.txt
[08:29] <osxfr33k> not necessary rpmbuild but similar
[08:30] <osxfr33k> make etc
[08:30] <unitheory> should work but i'm not sure ;]
[08:30] <leo> helo
[08:30] <osxfr33k> thanks will try
[08:30] <jerroome> thomthom : just add this to menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/201900/
[08:30] <_ruben> command 1> stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt ... stdout.txt will have normal output .. stderr.txt will have the errors
[08:31] <vigo> osxfr33k: Maybe this one...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[08:31] <ryancr> anyone here have pyclutter working on jaunty??
[08:31] <jerroome> thomthom : also add the uuid line
[08:32] <vigo> osxfr33k: Is basically a syslog with an rpm added in?
[08:33] <thomthom> will do, brb
[08:34] <subdolus> Can a single USB thumbstick hold two bootable images? Can I use grub/lilo/whatever to give me a choice between the two, AFTER I've chosen to boot the USB stick without a harddrive
[08:36] <vigo> subdolus: I am not sure, try two LiveCDs or have you tried a LiveUSB.
[08:37] <thomthom> jerroome: thanks, what did you do differently, I copied and pasted <IP_ADDRESS> entry then changed 2.6.30-5 to 2.6.30-9
[08:37] <n0gear> subdolus: excellent question, been wondering the same for a while
[08:37] <thomthom> but it didn't work when I did it that way
[08:38] <subdolus> I can't imagine why it wouldn't work
[08:38] <Stanley_> When I hit escape on bootup I have 5 options, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Generic, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Generic, and Memtest
[08:38] <subdolus> just after some suggestions/direction
[08:38] <Stanley_> nothing about booting to terminal
[08:38] <jerroome> subdolus : I'm sure it works, I already did it
[08:38] <jerroome> thomthom I did the same
[08:38] <subdolus> jerroome: how did you acheive it?
[08:39] <ashlessburn> anybody on here really good with ubuntu i mean ungoldy good
[08:39] <thomthom> are you supposed to update-grub after you add the entry?
[08:39] <ashlessburn> pm is so
[08:39] <jerroome> thomthom no certainly not
[08:40] <Stanley_> Does anybody know how I can exit X to install the Nvidia Drivers?
[08:41] <thomthom> well, maybe I did something wrong when I tried it the first time, not to worriy though, 2.6.30-9 is in the enrty and loads, so thank you
[08:41] <rabelais> why is there a significant delay between what my mic pics up and what I hear back in my speakers when I aplay /dev/dsp  ?
[08:41] <loof> Stanley_, : it's after that, it's after you've selected your os.
[08:42] <ashlessburn> rablais try changing your audio playback matching the device u have there should be several options for the audio config
[08:42] <ashlessburn> sometimes the defulat or pic auto detect is not as good
[08:42] <loof> Stanley_, : i'm just kinda now realizing, you might just wanna install the drivers via the restricted drivers option in system->administration->hardware drivers =S
[08:43] <Stanley_> Will I get the same performane loof?
[08:43] <hero_nocturnal> which virtual machiine is better virtual box or vmware,,or is thr any other more better one
[08:43] <vigo> Stanley_: What kernel are you using now?
[08:43] <loof> close, the drivers will only be a couple months older
[08:43] <Stanley_> Somebody in #nvidia also suggested "apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[08:43] <rabelais> ashlessburn: what? how does that affect the bufferring of the recording device?
[08:43] <Stanley_> vigo: latest, just downloaded today
[08:43] <ashlessburn> it can by using a diffrent config
[08:44] <rabelais> ashlessburn: I don't follow, can you explain a little more?
[08:44] <ashlessburn> had the same issue with teamspeak...it was set to oss and i changed it to ati alsa and worked perfectly
[08:44] <ashlessburn> more of what it sees it as
[08:44] <k2000> anyone know why my ubuntu live cd is running SUPER slow and when I type sudo top I get cpu load: 1.70 1.90, 1.59 ? I just booted and did nothing else
[08:45] <loof> Stanley_, : yeah, just get them from the hardware drivers page in system->administration->hardware drivers
[08:45] <rabelais> ashlessburn: so what exactly do I change in aplay? I'm just feeding it /dev/dsp...should I give it something else/
[08:45] <k2000> (I have a raid0 issue at the moment, I dunno if it could be related)
[08:45] <Stanley_> loof: Would "apt-get install nvidia-glx" work better ?
[08:45] <ashlessburn> hmm just a feed. shouldnt tech be affected however what ubuntu version are you on
[08:46] <kraut> moin
[08:46] <loof> Stanley_, : i *think* it would pull the same date/version, depends on if you want to do it commandline or via the gui
[08:46] <rabelais> ashlessburn: the command I'm issuing is "aplay /dev/dsp"   if that's wrong, then what command should I use to play back the microphone input from the console?
[08:47] <ashlessburn> should be a simple audio setting actualyl which u can test through GUI try going into your sound prefrences and test it through gui
[08:47] <Freewolf> hey all, is there anybody who can help with kmyfirewall configuration?
[08:48] <ashlessburn> once thats doen try the diffrent audio resources. ones that will not work will error out or not playback
[08:48] <vigo> Stanley_: about halfway down. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX#Edit%20/etc/X11/xorg.conf, Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <hero_nocturnal> which one is a better virtual machine virtualbox or vmware
[08:48] <ashlessburn> the device you are using analof or digital?
[08:48] <rabelais> ashlessburn: let's say that's set...what program do I use to play back the microphone out to my speakers?
[08:48] <thomthom> who here is testing karmic
[08:49] <rabelais> ashlessburn: I was assuming this was done with aplay, if that's wrong and I should use another program, what program should I use?
[08:49] <samorai> Hi!
[08:49] <samorai> I want to install Home 3D
[08:50] <vigo> !karmic
[08:50] <vigo> thomthom: That is #ubuntu+1 I think
[08:50] <samorai> I look French Chat
[08:50] <ziroday> !fr | samorai
[08:50] <thomthom> thanks vigo
[08:51] <Mash> anyone knows how to establish my gnome-ppp connection i did install the package but when i got connected it easily disconnected what might be wrong ?
[08:51] <madhurya> !papul
[08:51] <ziroday> madhurya: ?
[08:51] <madhurya> !sex
[08:51] <ziroday> madhurya: you might want to do that in PM with the bot as to not flood this channel.
[08:51] <rabelais> Mash: most likely networkmanager is interfering
[08:51] <madhurya> !appeal
[08:51] <ashlessburn> i dont really really on those. more of a test and pray...its more the device compatabiltiy which after 9.04 is greatly increased i personally have never used the CMD line to test these features as bc they are not real world just simple...the gui adds the real delay well bc it is gui
[08:52] <ashlessburn> more of a why then why not
[08:52] <rabelais> ashlessburn: thanks for your help, I'm not communicating my issue to you properly...but thank you
[08:53] <rabelais> Mash: disable networkmanaged by rightclicking on the little networked computers up at the top right and uncheck (enable networking)
[08:53] <jerroome> subdolus I can't find that configuration again, but as I remember, I just installed grub on it and did mapping inside it to set the image I want to boot as hd0
[08:53] <rabelais> Mash: your ppp program should work without failing then
[08:53] <Mash> ok rabelais thanks
[08:53] <Apollo2366> Hey, semi-noob question here. Where are program files kept in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <ziroday> Apollo2366: many different places, what are you looking for exactly?
[08:54] <Apollo2366> Firefox
[08:54] <rabelais> Apollo2366: everything is in your home directory /home/<username>
[08:54] <rabelais> Apollo2366: firefox is in /home/<username>/.mozilla
[08:55] <ziroday> rabelais: those are the configuration settings, not all the program files :)
[08:55] <ziroday> Apollo2366: to see all this files provided by a package you can do dpkg -L <packagename>
[08:56] <rabelais> ziroday: apologies, I figured he was asking for the user-specific program files
[08:56] <Maelos> How do you get the reverse of that -- i.e. what file does a package belong to?
[08:56] <madhurya> how can i see if python is installed in my system?
[08:56] <Mash> ok be back later try my luck
[08:56] <ziroday> Maelos: install the apt-file application
[08:56] <Freewolf> I'm running kMyFirewall with sudo command so with root access but it won't change iptables even if it shwos that it changed
[08:56] <vaibhav_> today's update removed lots of mono packages, , are they cleaning it up?
[08:56] <jerroome> madhurya just type python
[08:56] <vigo> ls
[08:57] <ktne> hello
[08:57] <cemc> hi. is there a command line tool for downloading mail from an exchange server using MAPI? sort of like a fetchmail, but with MAPI
[08:57] <ktne> is there any way to install 32bit mplayer  on amd64?
[08:57]  * i_am_an_indian asks if there are any indians here :)
[08:58] <ktne> i_am_an_indian: aren't there two types of them? you didn't specified which one :)
[08:58] <ziroday> cemc: evolution should have that ability
[08:58] <zortec> ktne: You can use aptitude or apt-get to install mplayer.
[08:58] <ziroday> i_am_an_indian: #ubuntu-in
[08:58] <ktne> zortec: i can't find the mplayer 32 bit package
[08:58] <rabelais> ktne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62685
[08:58] <zortec> ziroday: Good day :)
[08:58] <ziroday> zortec: howdy
[08:58] <ktne> rabelais: i went there but it looks quite outdated
[08:59] <ktne> from 2005
[08:59] <raidghos1> I try to use the bttv as module for Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture but not working as it should.
[08:59] <i_am_an_indian> ziroday: thanks
[08:59] <cemc> ziroday: I'm looking for something more light than evolution, something that could fetch the emails in a maildir
[08:59] <zortec> ktne: You can also use aptitude to search for packages, for instance: sudo aptitude search mplay will pull up all packages that are related to that term
[08:59] <Apollo2366> Okay, that didn't seem to help much. What I'm really trying to do is install an extension from an .xpi file. Can anyone tell me how to do it?
[08:59] <vigo> !email
[08:59] <vigo> whoops
[08:59] <Maelos> ziroday: apt-file will search the entire apt cache wont it?
[09:00] <ktne> zortec: there is no 32bit package there
[09:00] <Maelos> I want to know which package on the filesystem a particular file belongs to
[09:00] <raidghos1> also tried bt878 snd_bt87x bttv without luck.
[09:00] <Myrtti> i_am_an_indian: do you know you're ban evading?
[09:00] <ziroday> Maelos: err or the whole repo
[09:00] <vigo> I like Thunderbird, but that is kinda heavy far as System Processes go.
[09:00] <i_am_an_indian> Myrtti: whats that?
[09:00] <rabelais> Apollo2366: you should just be able to reference the file from firefox (use file:///) and it should give you the install prompt
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> vigo: try mutt, very light
[09:00] <Maelos> right repo, as defined by sources
[09:00] <Maelos> Im more interested in the local dpkg db
[09:01] <Apollo2366> rabelais, Thanks I'll try it.
[09:01] <vaibhav_>  vigo : use evolution
[09:01] <Myrtti> i_am_an_indian: changed your nickname to gain access to the channel. Please re-join #ubuntu-ops
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: doesnt it go by ip?
[09:01] <ktne> zortec: there appears to be a tool called "ia32-apt-get", this might do the trick
[09:01] <zortec> ktne: You could not find any packages with mplayer?
[09:01] <ktne> i have found, but they are all 64bit
[09:01] <vigo> ActionParsnip: Thank you, I use Mutt on gNewSense. I like it!
[09:02] <zortec> ktne: I just ran the search and there is an mplayer package.
[09:02] <Myrtti> i_am_an_indian: fail
[09:02] <ktne> zortec: what i need is 32bit mplayer on 64bit installation
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> vigo: means you can check you email via ssh from anywhere ;)
[09:02] <b0w> hello! anyone know about a good program for ipod on linux?
[09:02] <i_am_an_indian> what does /echo do?
[09:02] <zortec> ktne: The name of the package is 'mplayer' in aptitude
[09:02] <vigo> I love the slogan.
[09:03] <Maelos> dpkg --search <filename>, thanks ubuntu docs (and rtfm me)
[09:03] <b0w> vigo are you talking to me?
[09:03] <vigo> b0w: Not yet, no
[09:03] <b0w> never mind, anyone know any good program for ipod on linux?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Maelos: or: apt-cache search <thing>
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[09:04] <Myrtti> i_am_an_indian: rejoin #ubuntu-ops
[09:04] <chanux> b0w, banshee, rythmbox, amarok?
[09:04] <Maelos> ActionParsnip: not the same
[09:04] <vigo> b0w: I do not do Ipod stuff, but have seen some in the repos or Synaptic.
[09:04] <Apollo2366> rabelais, Thanks a bunch! It worked.
[09:04] <Maelos> ActionParsnip: that'll search packages which aren't installed too
[09:04] <rabelais> Apollo2366: welcome
[09:04] <b0w> well thanks for your help guys
[09:04] <b0w> :)
[09:05] <ashlessburn> so still waiting on the ubuntu god to msg me
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Maelos: oic, erm: dpkg -l | grep <somethin>
[09:05] <Mash> rabelais it's the same i did disable but no luck to stay connected
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> !ask | ashlessburn
[09:05] <Mash> and i copy the problem could i post to you ?
[09:05] <chanux> !automoc hardy
[09:05] <rabelais> Mash: sure
[09:05] <chanux> !automoc
[09:06] <alkamid> !backup
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> !find automoc
[09:06] <nahira> can anyone help in typing syriac or persian language in openoffice, I can't choose the language
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> !info automoc
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> nahira: install the language pack in the package manager of you choice
[09:06] <zortec> I'm curious, how many questions get asked in here on a daily basis?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> zortec: lots and lots
[09:07] <zortec> For the regular users, who might can answer that
[09:07] <zortec> lol
[09:07] <vigo> nahira: There are many Language Packages in the repositories.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its the sole purpose of the room
[09:07] <zortec> It's a good thing no one has the FT job of answering questions in here
[09:07] <Mash> who got the KPPP packages for Ubuntu 8.10
[09:07] <chanux> ActionParsnip, No automoc on hardy repos :( what can I do?
[09:07] <zortec> I think they might go insane
[09:07] <i_am_an_indian> i have heard that indian languages can be used with ubuntu? is that true? how can i do that?
[09:08] <zortec> Is Indian an official language?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> chanux: you can compile it or find an equivelant
[09:08] <nahira> I'm new to ubuntu so don't know where to start at all
[09:08] <losher> zortec: support is surprisingly hard work...
[09:08] <Myrtti> i_am_an_indian: are you ignoring me, please join #ubuntu-ops.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> zortec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India
[09:08] <ashlessburn> vlc vs gstreamer in ubuntu 9.04 running into several codex issues however gstreamer seams more stable then vlc in some aspects, cd music video play back in .avi wandering if there is possibly a pkg im missing...tried the libdvdcc still no luck
[09:08] <chanux> ActionParsnip, aptitude search didn't give me anything
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> !info automoc hardy
[09:09] <zortec> losher: I remember when you guys helped me out quite a bit, but it occurred to me with all these questions... does that mean maybe the support docs need to be expanded?
[09:09] <chanux> ActionParsnip, all sources found on Google are version specific
[09:09] <whatis_tux> I saw that it's possible to user some folders like /home as a mount point for partitions... but is it possible to use /home/$user as a mount point for a partition?
[09:09] <i_am_an_indian> Myrtti: ok i have joined
[09:09] <whatis_tux> use*
[09:09] <zortec> I think the docs in ubuntu are great, but it seems a lot of issues are unresolved
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> chanux: then you will need to compile it, find an alternative, or upgrade to a release with it in
[09:09] <chanux> ActionParsnip, Only availble for Intrepid+
[09:09] <nahira> ActionParsnip: how to install the package?
[09:10] <zortec> nahira: You can install packages multiple ways: synaptic, apt-get (cli), aptitude (cli), or add/remove
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> whatis_tux: sure is
[09:10] <losher> zortec: in my experience, many people don't read docs...
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> whatis_tux: add a normal entry to /etc/fstab to do the moounting and you can mount to the folder
[09:10] <JimBiggs> guys, how do i revert to before the update of this morning? it screwed my display, and don't know how to fix it :/
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> nahira: what package?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo shutdown -r now
[09:11] <e-frame> hello, my mp3 player is 1GB, but in gparted t shown as unallocated 235.33 MB. how come?
[09:11] <Martens1984> I have this update that won't install
[09:11] <Martens1984> linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic_2.6.28-13.44_i386.deb
[09:11] <nahira> the package for syriac language
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: can you please pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[09:12] <Martens1984> Has anyone a sollution?
[09:12] <ashlessburn> e-frame...do u have other prgrams installed? make sure it is a fat 32/16 format. most likely you will have to part the disc to get full read
[09:12] <nahira> zortec: what you mean by (cli)
[09:12] <JimBiggs> ActionParsnip, i tried this already, but it doesn't revert to the previous versions of the packages, does it?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> nahira: my guess is this: http://packages.ubunut.com/intrepid/language-pack-gnome-syr-base
[09:13] <Martens1984> How can I solve this?
[09:13] <Martens1984> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: tat only defaults the display to failsafe, it does not revert any packages. you will need to uninstall what you installed as well as its deps and then install the older version
[09:14] <ziroday> Martens1984: we need the errors above that :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Martens1984: sudo depmaod --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install
[09:14] <e-frame> ActionParsnip here: http://pastebin.com/m8c51400
[09:14] <JimBiggs> ActionParsnip, is there a way i can check what was installed lately, and then find the versions that i should install back?
[09:14] <ashlessburn> martens1984, After you get that error, try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error. Then try apt-get upgrade again, apt-get -f install back and forth until only the package that has the error is left.
[09:14] <Martens1984> ziroday: there is no error above
[09:14] <Martens1984> ashlessburn: doesn't work
[09:15] <nahira> yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one
[09:15] <ziroday> Martens1984: can you pastebin the output of sudo dpkg --configure -a please
[09:15] <e-frame> ashlessburn it is fat32
[09:15] <ashlessburn> martens1984, tired a reboot to duplicate?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: it's picked up as a 1Gb: Disk /dev/sdb: 1001 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[09:15] <ashlessburn> e-frame, yes 32 i believe
[09:15] <nahira> ActionParsnip: yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one
[09:15] <napsy_> hello
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: you can look in /var/cache/apt  unless you have cleaned out the old debs recently
[09:16] <dsdeiz_> how do you guys make opera fast? it's a resource hog here on my end :(
[09:16] <ashlessburn> martens1984, what are yuo tryign to install to get that error
[09:16] <Martens1984> ashlessburn: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <ashlessburn> martens1984, really thats is what version of ubunut and what bit
[09:16] <Martens1984> ashlessburn: ore sudo apt-get install -f "package"
[09:16] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: yes, i typed "df -h" and it said "/dev/sdb1             953M  4.1M  949M   1% /media/disk"
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz_: its always been slick here. try: http://www.ghacks.net/2007/03/29/10-tips-to-speed-up-opera-9/
[09:16] <zortec> losher: I picked up the linux cookbook and how linux works.  I'm intrigued by linux
[09:17] <the_undefined> 9.04 hibernated desktop pc but was not able to "wake it up". Now after rebooting I only see a black screen (monitor activity is there). Magic SysRq lets me reboot and stuff but I can't figure out how to get access to the system again : /. Any help would be highly appreciated !
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: there you go them, thats 1Gb of space with 4M used
[09:17] <e-frame> but in gparted it shown as unallocated 235.33 MB
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: gparted knows nothing.
[09:17] <dsdeiz_> how do you get the last pid again?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: i'd go by what the kernel says, not some dumb gui app
[09:17] <chanux> ActionParsnip, Why sources are version specific? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/automoc
[09:17] <nexx> I'm on my iPod so it will be a tad slow typing but I recently reinstalled ubuntu and everything was great... but now the GUI won't load... startx shows that no screens are found
[09:17] <losher> zortec: that's great. One well organized book is worth a hundred disorganized web pages
[09:18] <ashlessburn> martens1984, go into /var/lib/dpkg/info and delete everything do the same to /var/cache/apt/archives an do the same thing....this can break something so be careful not to delete important files...
[09:18] <ziroday> !pastebin | Martens1984
[09:18] <JimBiggs> ActionParsnip, could it be xserver-xorg-video-intel-2%3a<IP_ADDRESS>1 ?
[09:18] <zortec> losher: I admit, ubuntu has great docs but I think at times it's hard to locate the information you need, maybe other users can relate to those experiences
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: possibly, look at the created date
[09:19] <JimBiggs> and how do i reinstall the old version?
[09:19] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: yes, right. last time it's just /dev/sdb without /dev/sdb1 :D
[09:19] <zortec> losher: worse case scenario.  You search google and ubuntu docs and don't find anything and no other users have had the problem you are.
[09:19] <ashlessburn> the_undefined, what motherboard do u have
[09:19] <nexx> any ideas? :)
[09:19] <nahira> ActionParsnip: yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one
[09:19] <JimBiggs> so i should apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel-2%3a<IP_ADDRESS>1 and apt-get install .... what?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> chanux: each relelase uses different kernel versions for a start. as well as other differences. Thats why your sources file has the release name on the end so that you only install hardy debs
[09:19] <Innxis> !yahoo
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> nahira: then try and find it, you may need a ppa
[09:19] <losher> zortec: I think locating info is a general problem, not specific to Ubuntu. And it predates the internet...
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: i generally dont use gui apps outside of opera, i find them misleading and slow
[09:20] <DanteX> guys  im on xp64 i do tn game i just watch movies and torrent and surf convince me to ditch windows
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: i trust the kernel only
[09:20] <Innxis> Yahoo Pager Server: cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com is dead
[09:20] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: Not 100%, it's an old machine I had laying around.
[09:20] <zortec> losher: true.  it also helps if you know how to take advantage of search techniques and keywords
[09:20] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: my sounds very similar to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/211173 , but I think I got a ATI card in there
[09:20] <zortec> losher: 90% of the time I can find the information I need
[09:20] <ashlessburn> the_undefined, try a BIOS update to fix the issue alot of boards (ASUS,gigabyte) have issue with wake on sleep
[09:20] <nexx> on iPod: ubuntu worked : now GUI won't load: startx says no screens found ???
[09:20] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: how would I update the bios?
[09:21] <losher> zortec: one of the advantages of running e.g. 8.04 instead of 9.04 is that you're much less likely to run into problems that haven't been solved
[09:21] <zortec> ubuntu works on an ipod?
[09:21] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: so what partition editor can be "trusted" ?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: i like cfdisk
[09:21] <zortec> e-frame: I used qparted I think it was
[09:21] <vigo> !offtopic | DanteX
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: just my take, others love gparted
[09:21] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: The system actually gets beyond the bios, the GRUB loader shows -
[09:21] <Innxis> The new yahoo pager server is: cs102.msg.mud.yahoo.com
[09:21] <nexx> no I'm on mine because it's the only way to get on irc
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> !yahoo
[09:21] <zortec> losher: you mean the other way around?
[09:21] <Myrtti> DanteX: so whats your question?
[09:21] <e-frame> ActionParsnip & zortec : well i'll try them.
[09:22] <ashlessburn> the_undefined, that is dependant of the baord...asus has easy flash utility however generic would be go to the board website get the latest bios extract the bin file and boot to floppy (with bin file on floppy) on some boards they support the usb flash drives
[09:22] <nexx> any help? I don't like typing on this iPod lol
[09:22] <zortec> I think it would be nice in the chat room to have some kind of points system or at least be able to thank users who give help, not sure if that has come up before
[09:22] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: ok, hope mine does - the damn box ain't got no floppy
[09:22] <Innxis> ActionParsnip: That pager doesn't work anymore. They changed it
[09:22] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: thanks a ton for your help man
[09:23] <ashlessburn> the_undefined, no problem any questions email me ..om for addy
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Innxis: thats all i know dude. I think you may need the newer pidgin, its been sorted in that I think
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Innxis: theres one on getdeb but if you come to upgrade, uninstall it first so your system is inline with the repos
[09:23] <ashlessburn> the_undefined, pm
[09:23] <nexx> anybody
[09:23] <nexx> opps
[09:24] <the_undefined> ashlessburn: will do, hope I can figure something out with your pointers so : )
[09:24] <ashlessburn> :0
[09:24] <slestak> godd morning room.  ihave a dell optiplex with 9.04 insatlled.  i think ive troubleshot this thing well and have a faulty onboard nic.
[09:24] <Innxis> ActionParsnip: I did post the new one for those who use pidgin 2.5.6<
[09:24] <zortec> nexx: I might be wrong, but I don't believe there is a lot of support for running ubuntu on an ipod
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> nexx: boot to recovery mode and select fix grapics, you will then get a gui
[09:24] <ashlessburn> is there a irc admin?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> ashlessburn: there are ops
[09:24] <zortec> ashlessburn: there are irc ops
[09:24] <losher> zortec: do I? It's getting late...
[09:24] <nexx> I'm not running ubuntu on an iPod
[09:25] <nexx> it is on my computer
[09:25] <zortec> losher: less problems if you run 9.04 instead of 8.04, you said 8.04 instead of 9.04
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> nexx: i know, you need to boot to recovery mode and select fix graphics
[09:25] <nexx> I'm on irc from my iPod so it is hard to type
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> nexx: you will then get failsafe settings, also uninstall any drivers you recently installed so you can have another crack
[09:25] <nexx> alright how do I boot to recovery?
[09:26] <slestak> it works, just very slow.  ive got dell coming tomorrow to  relace mobo.  my biggest concern is ive overlooked something.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> nexx: esc when grub shows up, select recovery mode
[09:26] <chanux> ActionParsnip, I can't find any automoc source binary for Hardy. Any option other than dist-upgrade?
[09:26] <Stanley_> How do I take advantage of some of the cool graphics in 9.04?
[09:26] <Blended1> is ubunto dell's?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> nexx: if you stopped taling about how typing on a sucky ipod sucks then you'd get sorted faster
[09:26] <rabelais> slestak: did you check to see what lspci reports? and then what ifconfig reports?
[09:26] <zortec> Stanley_: You need to turn on compiz.
[09:26] <losher> zortec: no. 8.04 has had bugfixes applied to it for ages, so it's very stable. 9.04 on the other hand, is new, and hence much more likely to have bugs in it...
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> chanux: find an alternative or compile
[09:26] <Stanley_> zortec: How do I do that?
[09:27] <zortec> Stanley_: What wdm are you running?
[09:27] <Blended1> fun tell someone how to do there first compile
[09:27] <losher> zortec: with software, in general, the newer it is, the buggier it is...
[09:27] <Stanley_> zortec: wdm?
[09:27] <slestak> it has  broadcom gigabit nic, which i know has had a worse exp than others for drivers
[09:27] <Stanley_> zortec: Gnome
[09:27] <chanux> ActionParsnip, I'm sorry I do not know how to find an alternative. Help me if possible :)
[09:27] <zortec> Stanley_: Sorry, window manager... I forget not everyone is up with the acronyms
[09:27] <JimBiggs> ActionParsnip, how do i know which version of the xserver-xorg-video-intel-2 package i need to install once i've uninstalled the current one?
[09:27] <Stanley_> zortec: I made the assumption thats what you meant, but yea Gnome
[09:27] <zortec> losher: I had problems with gnome-do so I removed it and just am using ALT+F2
[09:28] <chanux> ActionParsnip, Google always get me to that launchpad thing when I look for automoc :(
[09:28] <i_am_an_indian_> can i make ubuntu look like vista?
[09:28] <i_am_an_indian_> and where can i find themes for ubuntu?
[09:28] <losher> zortec: lots of people here had problems with 9.04 that didn't exist in 8.04
[09:28] <Spike1506> !art
[09:28] <rabelais> i_am_an_indian_: google is your friend
[09:28] <zortec> Stanley_: It would be under visual effects
[09:29] <slestak> rabelais: i get an ip with ifconfig, and no errors are reported.  i just get 17k/sec on local lan copy, where with same cable to dell netbook (linux mint) gets 10M/s
[09:29] <i_am_an_indian_> !changethemes
[09:29] <rabelais> slestak: what module is loaded for the nic?
[09:29] <chanux> i_am_an_indian_, gnome-look.org ?
[09:29] <zortec> Stanley_: Right click on the desktop and go to Change desktop background, make sure that you have your 3d drivers installed
[09:29] <slestak> im sorry,i dont have access right now
[09:29] <Husaini> hi
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> chanux: try a different search engine, or go to the developers site for source
[09:30] <zortec> losher: I used 7.10 and then 9.04 now
[09:30] <Stanley_> zortec: I get the error "The Composite Extension is not available"
[09:30] <slestak> rabelais: let mesee if i have ssh on it yet, just refreshed install to get 64bit on there
[09:30] <zortec> Stanley_: Did you install compiz?
[09:30] <Blended1> is e17 AVAILABLE ON UIBUNTU?
[09:31] <rabelais> slestak: do you remember seeing a large number of ethernet errors when checking ifconfig/
[09:31] <losher> zortec: I used 7.10 then 9.04 then 8.04
[09:31] <zortec> Stanley_: What video card do you have?
[09:31] <Stanley_> zortec: I _just_ installed "simple-ccsm" but thats it
[09:31] <vigo> chanux: Is that Kdenlive?
[09:31] <zortec> losher: ah, so you downgraded... that is interesting
[09:31] <Stanley_> zortec: I have a Nvidia GTX-260 and an Nvidia 9500GT
[09:31] <slestak> rabelais: i dont recall seeing any, buti should check dmesg or daemon.log maybe
[09:31] <Stanley_> zortec: i have 4 monitors, only using 3 though
[09:31] <zortec> Stanley_: Make sure that you install the restricted nvidia drivers
[09:32] <jasonmchristos> hello, using gtk recordmydesktop to record the audio skips in the output file
[09:32] <zortec> Stanley_: They should have been available in your updates
[09:32] <jasonmchristos> please help
[09:32] <rabelais> slestak: it won't show up there, it'll be in ifconfig, next to sent, received, and errors
[09:32] <Stanley_> zortec: Yea the drivers are insstalled
[09:32] <slestak> rabelais: u going to be around a bit?  it is 4:30 am right now, but i will be in office in a few hours
[09:32] <losher> zortec: I got 9.04 working, but lots of little things weren't quite right, and there was nothing in 9.04 I needed, so I downgraded.
[09:33] <chanux> vigo, Qt plexydesk
[09:33] <rabelais> slestak: not likely, I'm going to sleep soon
[09:33] <zortec> Stanley_: You don't have an ATI chipset?
[09:33] <vigo> chanux: Ok, still looking.
[09:33] <Stanley_> Zortec: No, I have an nvidia chipset, 780i
[09:34] <rabelais> slestak: just some tip offs, broadcom chips have been misdetected in the past...so you might be using the wrong driver even if you do get an IP
[09:34] <Kartagis> does /etc/lsb-release ever change?
[09:34] <zortec> Stanley_: Ok install xgl with gnome
[09:34] <Stanley_> zortec: is that a  command line install, add/remove programs or packetmanager ?
[09:34] <slestak> rabelais:  think you may have a point.  im going to troubleshoot this some more
[09:35] <zortec> Stanley_: I didn't have to install it, but let me get you the link to follow
[09:35] <zortec> Stanley_:
[09:35] <zortec> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ght=xgl+feisty
[09:35] <bimadelta> hello all
[09:35] <vigo> chanux: Sure looks like the Kdenlive thing, here is one page. http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=60886472 and here is another: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KdenliveSVN
[09:36] <Stanley_> zortec: thats not opening up a forum for me, just the community page
[09:36] <chanux> vigo, Thanks loads
[09:36] <zortec> Stanley_: sudo apt-get install server-xgl
[09:36] <bimadelta> hi chanux can you help me please
[09:36] <zortec> Stanley_: That should enable desktop effects
[09:37] <Stanley_> zortec: couldn't find package
[09:37] <bimadelta> hi chanux can you help me please
[09:37] <slestak> rabelais: oh well, imup and im the stupid one who didnt get openssh and dns pointer worked outbefreo leqving so i deserve to drive in :)
[09:38] <Kartagis> does /etc/lsb-release ever get overwritten?
[09:38] <jasonmchristos> hello, using gtk recordmydesktop to record the audio skips in the output file please help
[09:38] <jasonmchristos> is there an alternative program?
[09:39] <Stanley_> zortec: wrong package name ?
[09:39] <slestak> rabelais: thx for help
[09:39] <bimadelta> help me who know how to remastering ubuntu live cd
[09:39] <lstarnes> Kartagis: it usually changes between releases
[09:39] <zortec> Stanley_: Did you install envy?
[09:39] <Stanley_> zortec: probably not.
[09:40] <jasonmchristos> Broken pipe: Overrun occurred.
[09:40] <papul> how can i install ubuntu from scratch
[09:40] <Stanley_> zortec: this is a fresh install i did tonight so
[09:40] <papul> only the packages that i need?
[09:40] <zortec> Stanley_: Ok, let's check your config file
[09:40] <Kartagis> lstarnes, some guy here says it changes at linux mint. is that possible?
[09:40] <zortec> Stanley_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <vigo> papul: Use the Minimal Install, or Unet thing.
[09:41] <zortec> Stanley_: from the cli
[09:41] <papul> vigo: how?
[09:41] <lstarnes> Kartagis: it can.  linux mint is not ubuntu but it is based on ubuntu
[09:41] <zortec> is linux mint really based on ubuntu?
[09:41] <vigo> papul: Have you looked at the Minimal Install?
[09:41] <lstarnes> zortec: yes
[09:41] <Stanley_> zortec: what am  I lookinf ror in this file ?
[09:41] <zortec> I thought they were two different versions
[09:41] <vigo> !minimal
[09:42] <zortec> Stanley_: What does the composite line read?
[09:42] <Stanley_> zortec: composite line?
[09:42] <papul> zortec: let him use pastebin
[09:42] <zortec> Stanley_: copy and paste the contents of your xorg.conf file
[09:43] <Stanley_> http://pastebin.com/d7de4c4c8
[09:43] <zortec> Stanley_: Is that the full file?
[09:44] <Stanley_> zortec: yes
[09:44] <zortec> Stanley_: We are trying to find a line for composite
[09:45] <faldo> hi
[09:45] <Stanley_> zortec: and I'm assuming it's not there?
[09:45] <Dday> How do i instal a tar.gz program?
[09:45] <halberd> unzip with tar -xzf somefile.tar.gz
[09:46] <zortec> Stanley_: not in the file you c&p
[09:46] <lstarnes> Dday: untar it then read the instructions contained in the INSTALL or README files
[09:46] <Dday> How i untar it?
[09:46] <Stanley_> zortec: thats the whole file when i typed "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:46] <lstarnes> Dday: tar xzf file.tar.gz
[09:46] <Dday> Is there a - or not?
[09:47] <lstarnes> Dday: it doesn't matter
[09:47] <jasonmchristos> SOLVED - see http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/?p=490. I had to set Advanced>Sound>device from DEFAULT to default (no kidding!). A frequency of 48000 worked for me. I need an amazed, head-shaking emoticon to capture how I felt when that worked.
[09:47] <lstarnes> Dday: you can use the - but tar doesn't need irt
[09:47] <lstarnes> *it
[09:47] <jasonmchristos> its a matter of caps lock
[09:47] <jasonmchristos> silly
[09:47] <zortec> Stanley_: You said Nvidia 9600?
[09:48] <Stanley_> zortec: no, a nvidia gtx-260 AND a nvidia 9500GT
[09:48] <zortec> Stanley_: Can you run lspci -l and copy and paste the results?
[09:49] <Stanley_> zortec: http://pastebin.com/d7de4c4c8
[09:49] <Stanley_> whoops
[09:49] <Stanley_> zortec: brad@brad-desktop:~$ lspci -l
[09:49] <Stanley_> lspci: invalid option -- 'l'
[09:50] <Spike1506> Stanley_, sudo lspci -l
[09:50] <Spike1506> nvm me Stanley_
[09:51] <zortec> Stanley_: just do lspci
[09:51] <zortec> Stanley_: copy and paste that
[09:51] <znh> whenever a message popups I have the PC speaker instead of a music file, anyone?
[09:51] <Stanley_> zortec: http://pastebin.com/d32b22c69
[09:52] <zortec> Stanley_: Are you sure you have already installed all the nvidia drivers?
[09:52] <zortec> Stanley_: Also at the cli type glxgears and wait about 5 secs, let me know what kind of fps you get
[09:53] <zortec> Stanley_: Let me know if I'm going too fast
[09:53] <Stanley_> zortec: Hardware Driver says I'm using NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 180) [recommended] and it's currently activated and in use
[09:53] <faldo> znh what given config files did you change exactly?
[09:53] <Stanley_> zortec: also, i go into nvidia-settings to setup my screens
[09:53] <znh> faldo, none. default Ubuntu Jaunty installation
[09:54] <znh> faldo, also when I hit backspace in an empty textbox I hear the music that goes over headphones through the PC speaker
[09:54] <Stanley_> zortec: I did do "nvidia-xconfig" which modifies the xconfig.conf to use the nvidia x driver
[09:54] <znh> faldo, kinda fun.. but shouldn't be :P
[09:54] <grawity> O_o
[09:54] <faldo> I can't tell so if you changed anything
[09:54] <zortec> Stanley_: You should be getting high frame rates if your driver is working when you run glxgears
[09:54] <znh> wish I did
[09:55] <ne2k__> I am starting to get EXTREMELY AGGRAVATED with ubuntu. Firefox keeps hanging up at absolutely unacceptably frequent intervals. I go to click on a link or search for something and the application turns grey for ten seconds and then comes back. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!
[09:55] <zortec> ne2k__: It just randomly hangs?
[09:55] <zortec> ne2k__: Did you try removing all your addons or doing a fresh install?
[09:55] <grawity> ne2k__: Do you have any Firefox addons? Does this happen with, for example, Epiphany-browser?
[09:56] <zortec> grawity: I will let you go ahead and help him :)
[09:56] <Stanley_> zortec: http://pastebin.com/d56af5e1
[09:56] <ne2k__> when this was happening a few weeks ago, I managed to track down the problem to "tracker-indexer" using all the processor time. it does appear to be using rather a lot again
[09:56] <zortec> Stanley_: Ok confirmed that the driver is working
[09:56] <faldo> zhn some people usally can't stand what they're given and need to tweak datas given by the system, it's terrible
[09:57] <ne2k__> zortec: no, I did not try removing all my add-ons and doing a fresh install
[09:57] <zortec> Stanley_: Press ALT+F2 and type compiz --replace and let me know what happens
[09:57] <denny> how would I go about trying to get something on the 'hundred papercuts' list?
[09:57] <Stanley_> zortec: my windows flashed a bit
[09:58] <zortec> Stanley_: Is compiz working now?
[09:58] <zortec> denny: What's the hundred papercuts list?
[09:58] <Stanley_> zortec: how can i tell? if i go into visual effects and go to "extra" it still gives me the error "The composite extension is not available"
[09:59] <zortec> Stanley_: Minimize windows or close windows and you should see desktop effects if they are working
[09:59] <Ritz2007> any female like to chat with me
[09:59] <jrib> Ritz2007: this isn't that kind of channel
[09:59] <Stanley_> zortec: nope
[09:59] <Ritz2007> cant get you dear
[09:59] <zortec> Stanley_: We will keep working at it
[10:00] <jrib> Ritz2007: this channel is for ubuntu support only, not other stuff
[10:01] <denny> zortec: a list of UI annoyances that should be fixed before 9.10
[10:02] <denny> I'd like to add 'windows don't restore to their last position' to it
[10:02] <jrib> denny: that's up to the application itself to implement
[10:02] <denny> jrib: you're missing my point
[10:02] <denny> and it shouldn't be, anyway
[10:02] <zortec> Stanley_: Try updating your nvidia drivers using synpatic
[10:03] <zortec> Stanley_: err, synaptic
[10:03] <denny> Don't Repeat Yourself - the window manager should handle window placement, giving the app a chance to override if it wants to
[10:03] <denny> each app shouldn't have to implement position-memory separately, that's pretty stupid
[10:04] <Stanley_> zortec: how do i go about that?
[10:05] <zortec> Stanley_: You said this was a new install, did you do anything at the cli with your nvidia drivers?
[10:06] <Stanley_> zortec: cli being terminal?
[10:06] <zortec> Stanley_: yeah, what drivers do you have installed, can you go in synaptic and let me know?
[10:06] <zortec> Stanley_: is it the ubuntu-restricted or linux-restricted drivers?
[10:07] <BigMike> how can I tell what version of flashplayer I have?
[10:07] <zortec> Stanley_: For your particular video card, you might have to install the drivers from the official nvidia site
[10:08] <Stanley_> zortec: Could it be an issue with me running two monitors on my gtx-260 and one monitor on my 9500GT?
[10:08] <laclasse> BigMike, type 'about:plugins' in your firefox url bar
[10:08] <BigMike> ok
[10:08] <zortec> BigMike: Just a guess, but probably there is a --version switch you can use from the cli
[10:08] <BigMike> ty
[10:08] <zortec> Stanley_: It could be an issue.  Have you tested it with just one monitor?
[10:09] <Stanley_> zortec: Nope.
[10:09] <Stanley_> zortec: I think i'm using nvidia-glx-180
[10:09] <BigMike> ok guess there is a flash update now
[10:09] <Blended1> does ubuntu have that suare box thing for the desktops
[10:10] <Blended1> square
[10:10] <e-frame> zortec & ashlessburn , this is my sdb partition after i re-format my mp3 under win*** http://e-frame.pastebin.com/m7e5ee1a4
[10:10] <zortec> Stanley_: There is a bug related to that driver package
[10:11] <zortec> Stanley_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/231697/+viewstatus
[10:11] <zortec> Stanley_: See if that is the problem you are having.
[10:11] <ashlessburn> e-frame. what did u do
[10:11] <ashlessburn> step by step
[10:11] <Stanley_> zortec: yea it appears to be
[10:11] <Stanley_> zortec: thats the same error i get
[10:12] <zortec> Stanley_: Try the workaround which is to download the drivers from the nvidia site
[10:13] <zortec> Stanley_: Right now there doesn't seem to be a solution to that bug
[10:13] <zortec> Stanley_: But you can try downloading the drivers from nvidia and installing them
[10:13] <Stanley_> zortec: I was trying to install driver sfrom their site but nobody could tell me how to disable X
[10:13] <Stanley_> zortec: which is needed to install the drivers
[10:14] <e-frame> ashlessburn: i run cfdisk, delete all partition, then create one. in linux fstype. then i go to win** box and reformat it to fat32. everything goes ok, the mp3 player runs well, then i plugged it in my ubuntu, it's automounted and shown as 1GB drive, but when i check with fdisk, it shown as in the link. :D
[10:14] <e-frame> but it works XD
[10:14] <Blended1> how easyis ubuntu to set upsprint wireless  modems ...?
[10:14] <zortec> Stanley_: You don't want to disable X, but you can restart X
[10:15] <Stanley_> zortec: it tells me x needs to be disabled to install
[10:15] <anita> hi to all
[10:15] <Blended1> baker
[10:16] <zortec> Stanley_: Try this, go to System->Administration->Services
[10:16] <slestak> rabelais:i am in office now, lspci == Broadcom BCM5754
[10:16] <zortec> Stanley_: From there you can disable the graphical login manager
[10:17] <Stanley_> zortec: how do i turn it bak on?
[10:17] <zortec> Stanley_: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults, startx
[10:17] <slestak> rabelais: installing pastebinit real quick
[10:17] <bullgard4> [GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?
[10:17] <zortec> Stanley_: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove to disable
[10:18] <Stanley_> zortec: and how to enable?
[10:18] <zortec> Stanley_:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults, startx
[10:19] <ashlessburn> e-frame, how you tried a reboot without the usb flash in
[10:21] <slestak> rabelais: http://pastebin.com/f30ae14e6
[10:21] <slestak> there is ifconfig, and it does show errors, that is with just 5 minutes use on the nic.
[10:21] <Stanley_> zortec: i did the sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove and logged out and looged back in and i'm still in X
[10:22] <vigo> Stanley_: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html
[10:22] <spider48014> hi
[10:23] <faldo> hi
[10:23] <Husaini> !build-essential
[10:23] <zortec> Stanley_: That is why I asked if you enabled the restricted drivers
[10:23] <zortec> Stanley_: following what vigo suggested
[10:25] <bimadelta> see ya!!!
[10:26] <e-frame> ashlessburn: i din't do any reboot. there is another machine with win** os
[10:27] <ashlessburn> e-frame, you have a simple problem. seems the soultion woul dhave been simple as well. jsut for testing have you tried another falsh drive?
[10:29] <sara_> AAAAAA
[10:29] <e-frame> ashlessburn: currently this is the only flash drive right now :D well i'm gonna wipe it, since there is no important data. any good suggestion about re-creating partition using the whole space on disk?
[10:29] <sara_> FACKA MEN
[10:30] <ashlessburn> e-frame, use a boot in program and make sure that it is fat 32/16 make sure ur part is 3 nto 2 and u should be good to go
[10:30] <sara_> YEA MEN
[10:30] <sara_> FACKA
[10:30] <sara_> YEA MEM
[10:30] <sara_> FACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[10:31] <sara_> YEA MEN
[10:31] <ashlessburn> e-frame, make sure there is no propriety software on the drive...some drives come with security software and boot log ins, u can wipe them each drive is diffrent how too thoguh
[10:31] <faldo> hi Odo
[10:31] <Odo> faldo, hi
[10:32] <e-frame> ashlessburn: yea, after each format, i find it restores it's system files.
[10:32] <faldo> I'm psychic mode pluggin (for pidgin) ;)
[10:33] <faldo> sorry Odo was thinking of this pluggin ;)
[10:33] <ashlessburn> hmmm
[10:33] <BigMike> yahoo work on pidgin for you?
[10:33] <Odo> Failrar, np
[10:33] <Odo> faldo, np
[10:33] <ashlessburn> e-frame, you might want to contact the drive manf to see if there is a wipe or 9f-disk) program for the drive  ....was it a high end drive?
[10:33] <faldo> odo thanks
[10:34] <Spike1506> BigMike, there where problems with yahoo and pidgin, there is a new release where the issue has been fixed
[10:34] <e-frame> ashlessburn: no, just ordinary mp3 player made by polytron
[10:34] <Spike1506> BigMike, you can download it via the pidgin website or wait till its avaible in ubuntu repos
[10:34] <BigMike> ok i have a code that works if anyone wants it for older versions
[10:34] <erUSUL> Spike1506: BigMike there is a ppa and it is in getdeb too
[10:35] <e-frame> ashlessburn: at first i just want to make it a bootable flash drive to run portable OS
[10:35] <erUSUL> !ppa
[10:35] <BigMike> ok well I fixed mine by adding to the hosts file
[10:35] <pc> salut
[10:37] <zortec> Did Stanley ever come back?
[10:37] <BigMike> ubuntu is pretty stable for sure
[10:37] <zortec> Stanley_: I was just checking if you were back
[10:37] <vigo> zortec: Not yet
[10:37] <halldor89> hi, I'm running hardy heron and I need newer version of pygobject than is in the repository, what options do I have (other than upgrade my ubuntu installation)?
[10:38] <Stanley_> So  I went back to the 173 restricted driver and my video card wasn't supported so X wouldnt' start. so while I had no X i installed the 185 drivers which wouldnt' work either so I loaded into "low graphics mode" and re-enabled the 180 drier sfrom the restricted menu and i'm back and running again
[10:38] <zortec> halldor89: You would have to search the net for the latest package
[10:38] <iceroot> halldor89: backports or installing a new version by hand
[10:38] <zortec> halldor89: You could try enabling more repositories if you haven't done so
[10:38] <iceroot> !backport | halldor89
[10:39] <halldor89> iceroot: thanks a lot, that's probably what I'm looking for
[10:39] <Stanley_> zortec: thanks :) see above!
[10:40] <ashlessburn> well thats easy
[10:40] <zortec> Stanley_: I'm not sure what you want me to see above
[10:40] <Stanley_>  So  I went back to the 173 restricted driver and my video card wasn't supported so X wouldnt' start. so while I had no X i installed the 185 drivers which wouldnt' work either so I loaded into "low graphics mode" and re-enabled the 180 drier sfrom the restricted menu and i'm back and running ag
[10:40] <iceroot> halldor89: also have a look at apt-pinning  because if you enable backports ALL packages are upgraded
[10:40] <ashlessburn> e-frame, thats easy unetbootin
[10:41] <iceroot> !apt-pinning | halldor89
[10:41] <iceroot> hm
[10:41] <markit> hi, I've a minimal installation of 8.04. dpkg-reconfiture locales does nothing, and directory /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ is empty. "locales" package is installed, what else do I miss?
[10:41] <markit> I just want to change to it_IT-UTF8
[10:41] <Stanley_> zortec: just to my explanation of what happened
[10:41] <zortec> Stanley_: Ok I see it now, let me read
[10:41] <halldor89> iceroot: which problems can that cause (everything being upgraded)?
[10:42] <zortec> Stanley_: Great, so you have compiz working with dual monitors?
[10:42] <e-frame> ashlessburn: yea, i've tried unetbootin. thx
[10:42] <Stanley_> Well, no, I'm back to the 180 drivers I had originally
[10:42] <Stanley_> zortec: so nothings really changed
[10:42] <iceroot> halldor89: for e.g. if firefox 3.1 is in backports you will get it if you have installed firefox 3.0
[10:43] <iceroot> halldor89: so apt-pinning can hold back the other packages
[10:43] <halldor89> iceroot: thx, I'll look into it
[10:43] <Jimi_Neutral> i have a file that im trying to get off a hdd and i keep getting an I/O error so someone told me to try and snapshot the image and put it on another drive and then pull it off the new drive that works....he told me to install linux and do something with lvm but then after that i had to go home after work, i really need to get this file off this hdd, can anyone help?
[10:43] <zortec> Stanley_: so you still have no compiz?
[10:43] <iceroot> halldor89: also you can just upgrade one package, enable backports then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install pprogam-you-want-upgrade
[10:43] <Stanley_> zortec: correct, also still on the driver version that has the bug
[10:43] <slestak> can anyone tell me the version of the tg3 driver that is included with jaunty?  I have downloaded 3.92 from broadcom,but dont want to build it if ubuntu already has this version
[10:43] <klos> hello :)
[10:44] <iceroot> markit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:44] <zortec> Stanley_: Ok what were your video cards again?
[10:44] <Usama> hello, my friend is having problem installing from dvd. he says the partionar doesn't see his disk but it can see it by another ways like fdisk
[10:44] <klos> anyone knows in which beta the new design is going to be implemented?
[10:44] <markit> iceroot: does NOTHING, just returns to prompt. I'm trying locale-gen now
[10:44] <Stanley_> zortex: Nvidia GTX-260 and Nvidia 9500GT
[10:45] <zortec> Stanley_: It's a confirmed bug in ubuntu about the dual video cards with compiz, but did you try just one monitor to see if that works?
[10:46] <ashlessburn> e-frame. do u ahve a windows computer
[10:47] <e-frame> ashlessburn: no. it's on my friend's lapto
[10:47] <BenTM> hi @ all how can i disable mod_perl modul in apache? i try to install an twiki an have to disable mod_perl
[10:47] <e-frame> ashlessburn: no. it's on my friend's laptop
[10:47] <ashlessburn> e-frame, i mean do u have acces to a windws machince
[10:47] <e-frame> ashlessburn: yes
[10:48] <iceroot> BenTM: a2dismod mod_perl   then restart apache
[10:48] <iceroot> BenTM: to enable a mod  a2enmod
[10:48] <BenTM> ok thx ^^
[10:49] <slestak> can anyone tell me the version of the tg3 driver that is included with jaunty?  I have downloaded 3.92 from broadcom,but dont want to build it if ubuntu already has this version
[10:49] <BenTM> and a overview about running mods?
[10:49] <ashlessburn> e-frame, try http://infrarecorder.org/
[10:50] <SAMER_> hello pls any one can help i want to connect to internet form ubuntu 9.04 using band luxe modem
[10:50] <e-frame> ashlessburn: what's that? why did you suggest that?
[10:50] <iceroot> BenTM: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[10:51] <bob_rock> hi everyone. how to change resolution permanently. I use driver from Nvidia (X.org 96' driver) and my VGA is Geforce2 MX400.
[10:51] <ashlessburn> its what i had to sue to get my cd/dvd to work major programs didnt work
[10:51] <Matisse> hi
[10:51] <Matisse> how do I find out, if my new sata hd is recognized? it has no filesystem on it
[10:51] <Weed37__> hi guys cant seem to get my graphics effects working have tried to enable them in apperance but says canott enable effects ? any ideas
[10:52] <CaMason> it seems my wireless device on my eee can't connect since the recent kernel update. Any thoughts on where I can look?
[10:52] <BenTM> thx
[10:52] <slestak> Matisse: look in dmesg output for a line that contains "sd"
[10:52] <CaMason> kernel is 2.6.28-13
[10:52] <bob_rock> help me please!
[10:52] <Weed37__> hi guys cant seem to get my graphics effects working have tried to enable them in apperance but says canott enable effects ? any ideas
[10:53] <ashlessburn> bob_rock, run to nvidia site see if they have a driver for the card for linux
[10:53] <Darael> Weed37__: What graphics card/chipset do you have?
[10:53] <Weed37__> idk m8
[10:53] <Matisse> slestak, thx, seems to be there
[10:53] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone able to help me through a dd process?
[10:53] <Weed37__> Darael, how do i find it new to ubuntu
[10:54] <Darael> Weed37__: if you have an Nvidia or ATI graphics card you'll need to enable the drivers
[10:54] <markit> I've tried "sudo loadkeys it" but I get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console". with dpkg-reconfigure console-data I've choose italian keyboard but still I can't get accented or other italian-specific keys
[10:54] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: I use Ubuntu Jaunty. my problem is just changin resolution permanent.
[10:54] <Weed37__> Nvidia and i have tried that
[10:54] <Darael> Weed37__: if you go to system->administration->hardware drivers it'll show you if there are any available
[10:54] <Weed37__> their is 3 options their
[10:55] <Weed37__> but can only choose 1
[10:55] <Darael> Weed37__: if there's one with a [recommended] tag, I'd use that
[10:55] <Weed37__> yeah i picked that
[10:55] <slestak> interesting, the tg3.c file at apt.wikimedia.org is a newer rev that the tg3 from broadcom
[10:55] <Weed37__> it says downloading then nothing happens
[10:55] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: please give me the right code to change resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:55] <Darael> Weed37__: have you rebooted since installing the drivers?
[10:56] <Weed37__> hmmm no
[10:56] <Weed37__> i will try
[10:56] <bob_rock>  please give me the right code to change resolution permanently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <ashlessburn> bob_rock without restriceted or manual it looks like u cannot fro that card
[10:56] <Weed37__> ty Darael
[10:56] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: what do u mean?
[10:57] <ashlessburn> bob_rock, what is ur card again
[10:57] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: i am just able to change resolution for login screen but not the Desktop
[10:58] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: Geforce2 MX400
[10:58] <zortec> bob_rock: That is an old card... you need the restricted drivers to use it
[10:58] <bob_rock> zortec: Tell me more how to do that!
[10:59] <ashlessburn> bob_rock, please read article http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-8-04-screen-resolution-limited-with-nvidia-geforce2-mx-400
[10:59] <ashlessburn> bob_rock, read problem solved please
[10:59] <zortec> !ubottu restricted | bob_rock
[11:00] <bob_rock> ashlessburn: i'll read it, wait for my confession.
[11:00] <ashlessburn> will do
[11:01] <toan> help me with apache2
[11:01] <toan> when i type
[11:01] <f7ee> How does that OBEJX Server For Mobile Phones calleed?
[11:01] <toan> /etc/init.d/apache2 restar
[11:01] <toan> have error
[11:01] <f7ee> I need to copy some multimedia to my mobile phone via bluetooth
[11:02] <toan> * Restarting web server apache2                                                (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[11:02] <toan> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[11:02] <toan> Unable to open logs
[11:02] <toan>                                                                          [fail]
[11:02] <FloodBot1> toan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <toan> please help me!
[11:02] <vigo> !pastebin | toan
[11:02] <Weed37_> Darael, still getting same issue
[11:02] <f7ee> OBEX Server
[11:02] <Darael> Weed37_: hmm...
[11:03] <Darael> Weed37_: usually the only reason it would fail to install the drivers is if Synaptic was open
[11:03] <Weed37_> nope that is closed
[11:04] <Darael> Weed37_: so you can't activate the restricted drivers? how odd.
[11:04] <Weed37_> restricted drivers ?
[11:05] <vigo> bob_rock: From the forums that card looks unsupported, maybe 'legacy' drivers work with it, but I do not know: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480991
[11:05] <bob_rock> vigo: I'll read it.
[11:06] <zortec> bob_rock: Didn't you say you were going to read the other article?
[11:06] <Weed37_> restricted drivers ? Darael
[11:06] <bob_rock> wait i'll read them all
[11:07] <zortec> Weed37_: Restricted drivers in synaptic
[11:07] <Darael> Weed37_: the drivers for nivdia cards (well, most of them) that provide 3d acceleration and stuff like that are closed-source, so we call them "restricted"
[11:07] <zortec> how do we get him the doc on restricted drivers?
[11:07] <vigo> !restricted
[11:08] <zortec> thanks vigo, I haven't used the bot much
[11:08] <Weed37_> ty guys
[11:08] <vigo> zortec: Thank you, your assistance and help is spot on.
[11:09] <zortec> vigo: I'm glad to help. :)
[11:11] <wdou> is anybody here?
[11:11] <zortec> yes
[11:11] <wdou> can you here me?
[11:11] <wdou> can you here me?
[11:11] <zortec> wdou: I can't hear you, but I can see your messages
[11:11] <wdou> e ubuntu is a good system!
[11:12] <wdou> i came from China,and my computer like a rubbish when it go with windows xp,but ubuntu goes well!!haha
[11:12] <harini> yup
[11:12] <cyberghoser1> wdou, true it is
[11:13] <bob_rock> Thanks for the help but I got confused. Well my display driver run smoothly in Ubuntu Jaunty & I could be able to change resolution that i want it (using Nvidia X Server Settings), but after restarting , it gets back to 1024x768. All i want is to keep stay in 1152x864. is there a way to do that
[11:14] <wdou> but i find a problem:when the ie go under wine is very slow! i can't fix it
[11:14] <zortec> bob_rock: You could edit the xorg.conf file and find display modes
[11:14] <zortec> bob_rock: Are you sure that your video card supports that high of a resolution?
[11:14] <koshari> how to set multiple exclude locations with rsync?
[11:14] <Bodsda> bob_rock: maybe take a look at the  xrandr   command
[11:14] <wdou> can anybody help me?
[11:15] <bob_rock> zortec: I could get 1600x1024
[11:15] <Bodsda> wdou: why are you running IE in wine? Will firefox not do?
[11:15] <Darael> bob_rock: try modifying the command for nvidia-settings so that it has a gksu on the front
[11:15] <erUSUL> wdou: do not use ie
[11:16] <Darael> bob_rock: the default menu entry runs without gksudo so it can't save to xorg.conf
[11:16] <zortec> bob_rock: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <wdou> e~ i should use ie,because i should see how the webpages display in IE
[11:17] <Darael> zortec: there's no need for that.  Just gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:17] <bob_rock> Darael: I did it
[11:17] <meingbg> I'm on Ubuntu Intrepid, and 'apt-get install libpci-dev' is failing with "Couldn't find package libpci-dev." What can I do?
[11:17] <zortec> wdou: Instead of use IE, I would just install an addon for firefox like IETab or IE Switcher
[11:17] <Bodsda> wdou: IE is not a could standard for web page display
[11:17] <benoKrapo> wdou: IETab will only work in windows
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[11:17] <Darael> bob_rock: so having run it with gksu, you should be able to use the "save to X configuration file" option
[11:17] <bob_rock> zortec: i'll I want is the code to change permanently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <zortec> benoKrapo: It should work in both windows and linux
[11:18] <zortec> benoKrapo: Firefox addons I don't believe are os independent
[11:18] <wdou> i'll have a try,thanks
[11:18] <revelations>
[11:18] <benoKrapo> except when they use MS ActiveX to display their content :p
[11:18] <bob_rock> Darael: If I follow your steps, it gets error
[11:18] <meingbg> Does anyone have experience with KVM on Ubuntu Intrepid?
[11:18] <benoKrapo> I do use one meingbg
[11:19] <Darael> bob_rock: you may have to rename your existing xorg.conf - sometimes it has trouble with it
[11:19] <zortec> bob_rock: You need to have superuser rights when you edit the xorg.conf
[11:19] <bob_rock> tell me to show the paste link to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:19] <zortec> bob_rock: otherwise it will not save
[11:19] <mobi-sheep> wdou: http://browsershots.org/
[11:19] <Guest69044> good day everyone
[11:19] <bob_rock> tell me to show the paste link to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:20] <zortec> bob_rock: ?
[11:20] <Darael> bob_rock: ummm... what do you mean?
[11:20] <Guest69044> i have a problem with 9.04 jaunty
[11:20] <ziroday> !pastebin | bob_rock
[11:20] <ziroday> Guest69044: we need to know it to help you out :)
[11:20] <Guest69044> can anybody help me figure it out?
[11:20] <zortec> Guest69044: Not if you don't tell us anything :)
[11:20] <amews_aj> How can I format an hdd using ubuntu live cd?
[11:21] <Guest69044> k here's how it goes
[11:21] <ziroday> amews_aj: System > Administration > Partition Editor
[11:21] <bob_rock> ubottu: Thanks. that what i meant
[11:21] <slestak> amews_aj: gparted
[11:21] <Guest69044> i have vmware server 2.0.1 installed
[11:21] <amews_aj> But won't that just remove partition table?
[11:21] <zortec> amews_aj: You could use fdisk in linux to format a drive
[11:21] <Guest69044> and i am making a tutorial of some sort but everytime i try to prnt screen the console jaunty just hangs
[11:22] <Guest69044> the vmclient is pclinuxos
[11:22] <Guest69044> weird
[11:22] <Guest69044> i kept getting that inanimate screen
[11:22] <bob_rock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/202012/
[11:23] <Guest69044> any idea?
[11:23] <bob_rock> zortec: what do you think
[11:23] <amews_aj> zortec: built in or ?
[11:23] <SAMER_> any one can help to setup modem in ubuntu 9.04
[11:23] <zortec> amews_aj: I think fdisk is built-in, don't quote me on that
[11:24] <bob_rock> zortec: your advice?
[11:24] <zortec> bob_rock: I'm looking at your xorg.conf
[11:24] <bob_rock> Darael: this is my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/202012/
[11:25] <Jimi_Neutral> i have attatched a slave hdd and im using kde desktop, does anyone know how i can view this hdd graphically
[11:25] <zortec> bob_rock: You should separate the resolutions and then I would run this command:
[11:25] <zortec> bob_rock: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:25] <Guest69044> wow
[11:26] <Guest69044> i get no response?
[11:26] <ziroday> Guest69044: we can't really support vmware here due to its proprietary nature, nor do I have a solution for you. Have you tried virtualbox (open source edition)?
[11:26] <Guest69044> must have joined the wrong group
[11:26] <bob_rock> sorry missclick
[11:26] <Guest69044> nah...
[11:26] <ziroday> Guest69044:  and patience is a virtue :)
[11:26] <zortec> Guest69044: Have you tried a different virtual software like virtualbox or vmware?
[11:26] <bob_rock> what did you say?
[11:26] <zortec> bob_rock: You should separate the resolutions and then I would run this command:
[11:26] <zortec> bob_rock: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:26] <Guest69044> virt box should be good
[11:27] <ziroday> Guest69044: also #vmware may be of some help to you
[11:27] <dot> I have installed scim and anthy and so on, but how do I write my japanese letters on ubuntu 9.04?
[11:27] <Guest69044> hope so
[11:27] <zortec> dot: Did you test out your keyboard when you installed ubuntu?
[11:27] <dot> zortec: yeah? I chose swedish imput but I have ubuntu in english
[11:27] <laeg> i have the following pidgin.desktop file in /usr/share/applications ( http://pastebin.com/m342addc2 ) but it does not display the shortcut in applications >> internet menu - from a previous install in edit menus i had unchecked pidgin and also deleted it - how can i remedy this?
[11:27] <bob_rock> zortec: what i have to is run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the terminal?
[11:28] <H2L29> bonjour tout le monde
[11:28] <kuru> just for the record, upgrading from interpid to jaunty broke mailman's web interface with apache
[11:28] <kuru> not sure what happened
[11:28] <kuru> can't debug
[11:28] <kuru> no logs
[11:28] <kuru> nothing useful
[11:28] <FloodBot1> kuru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <zortec> bob_rock: yes, after you are done with editing the xorg.conf file
[11:28] <ziroday> dot: you are using scim correct, do you see the scim menu?
[11:28] <H2L29> oops sorry
[11:28] <kuru> ah.. I'm not flooding, I'm typing .. bah
[11:28] <dot> ziroday: noup I cant see scim menu why?
[11:28] <aTr> does anyone knows where to change memory limit for php in lighttpd?
[11:28] <PervertedMonk> Hi, where is the gallery on ubuntu forums?>
[11:28] <zortec> bob_rock: make sure you edit it with root privileges
[11:28] <Jimi_Neutral> any kde desktop uers here
[11:28] <kuru> and I'm pretty pissed off at the whole thing
[11:28] <ziroday> dot: hmm it should be there, can you right click on a text box, select Input Method as scim?
[11:29] <ziroday> Jimi_Neutral: #kubuntu
[11:29] <dot> ziroday: yes
[11:29] <ziroday> dot: do you see the scim menu now?
[11:29] <Jimi_Neutral> ziroday, ty
[11:29] <bob_rock> zortec: I did it but it mess up my xorg.conf. I'll prefer run : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:29] <dot> on irssi I take imput method so I can choose between SCIM bridge imput method and SCIM imput method
[11:29] <dot> but Cant see the menu
[11:29] <dot> but now I can
[11:29] <zortec> bob_rock: did you backup your xorg.conf file first before you started making changes?
[11:30] <dot> zortec: It bumped up
[11:30] <bob_rock> zortec: yap
[11:30] <dot> when I chose scim imput method
[11:30] <veasmkii> Hey guys, how would i add text to the end of xorg.conf with command line?
[11:30] <zortec> bob_rock: copy and paste your xorg.conf file
[11:30] <bob_rock> zortec: I did it
[11:30] <zortec> dot: What bumped up?
[11:30] <ziroday> dot: personally I'd ask in #ubuntu-jp as I'm sure they'd know
[11:30] <dot> ziroday: the menu up there
[11:31] <veasmkii> i've tried echo "new line here" >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it wont write to it
[11:31] <zortec> dot: I would check your keyboard layout and make sure that you selected the right language with your keyboard
[11:31] <dot> okey thanks
[11:31] <bob_rock> zortec: tell me which code that i have to insert to my xorg.conf
[11:31] <amews_aj> fdisk does not seem to format drive, only partitioning.. ?
[11:31] <zortec> dot: you might also have to install japanese character support, just a guess
[11:32] <dot> okey
[11:32] <dot> äöå
[11:32] <bob_rock> zortec: ?
[11:32] <dot>  いま
[11:32] <zortec> bob_rock: yeah I'm here
[11:32] <dot> 今日本語を書く
[11:32] <ziroday> dot: yes you are speaking japanese currently
[11:32] <zortec> dot: your keyboard is working correctly
[11:32] <dot> got it working
[11:32] <dot> but how do I change between japanese and english with shift + space
[11:32] <zortec> bob_rock: can you paste your xorg.conf?
[11:33] <dot> so it will start working :|
[11:33] <simmerz> hi. I'm using ssh-agent as per the default setup, but it's sending the wrong key when connecting to a server. I have three different keys with which to connect and each does something different, but it doesn't use the one I specify unless I set SSH_AUTH_SOCK=""
[11:33] <zortec> ziroday: I wish there was a queue for questions so we could address one person at a time :)
[11:33] <bob_rock> zortec: i can do that by using sudo gedit or sudo nautilus
[11:33] <bullgard4> [GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?
[11:34] <zortec> bob_rock: you mean gksudo?
[11:34] <zortec> bob_rock: gksudo gedit I believe
[11:34] <bob_rock> zortec: yes
[11:34] <dot> いいね got it working
[11:34] <bob_rock> zortec: is it diferrent sudo with gksudo
[11:35] <BenTM> i want to know about loaded modules in apache per: apache2 -t -D DUMP_MODULES  apache reports: bad user name ${apache_run_user} should i use www-data as user?
[11:35] <zortec> bob_rock: you use gksudo for gui apps is my understanding
[11:35] <zortec> bob_rock: and sudo for cli apps :)
[11:35] <ziroday> BenTM: try sudo apache2 -t -D DUMP_MODULES
[11:35] <Anon2666> Need help anyone please
[11:35] <bob_rock> zortec: i think the result is just the same. both are able to save
[11:35] <jerroome> !ask
[11:36] <noMaster> I have carelessly deleted my programm menu. Now there are only "system" and "browse" icons. Please help! How to repair programm menu?
[11:36] <zortec> bob_rock: I would just use gksudo to be on the safe side
[11:36] <laeg> i have the following pidgin.desktop file in /usr/share/applications ( http://pastebin.com/m342addc2 ) but it does not display the shortcut in applications >> internet menu - from a previous install in edit menus i had unchecked pidgin and also deleted it - how can i remedy this?
[11:36] <Anon2666> I made a fresh and full install of ubuntu 8.10 on my friends laptop, but when i tried to reinstall winXP in shows up a BSOD
[11:36] <zortec> Anon2666: You should install windows first and then ubuntu
[11:36] <ziroday> Anon2666: windows help in ##windows
[11:36] <bob_rock> zortec: well i did you way, but how to solve my problem?
[11:36] <zortec> Anon2666: if you are going for a dual boot system
[11:37] <ziroday> laeg: do you have an image named pidgin in your icon theme?
[11:37] <ziroday> laeg: or does changing to human show the pidgin icon?
[11:37] <Anon2666> what i did is use entire disk on ubuntus partition
[11:37] <zortec> bob_rock: I need to see your xorg.conf
[11:37] <jack_> hy
[11:37] <bob_rock> zortec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/202012/
[11:37] <jack_> why Kopete and Pidgin doesn't connect to my Yahoo account on ubuntu 9.04 ? :(
[11:38] <Anon2666> :(
[11:38] <zortec> !pidgin
[11:38] <bazhang> !yahoo | jack_
[11:38] <ziroday> !yahoo | jack_
[11:38] <BenTM> @ Ziroday: i always login with root
[11:38] <jack_> ok i`ll try
[11:38] <zortec> bob_rock: It will be just a second and I will get back to you
[11:39] <ziroday> BenTM: yeah that's also really not a good idea. Try sudo -u www-data <apache command> then
[11:39] <bob_rock> zortec: i'll be waiting.
[11:39] <dot> now I can write japanese in irssi, but how can I write japanese in like firefox or so
[11:39] <jack_> Connection 10 - active refused
[11:39] <jack_> :(
[11:39] <ziroday> dot: select scim as the input method
[11:40] <dot> ziroday: where?
[11:40] <shredder12> I have installed windows xp using virtual box in jaunty.. but how do i install the drivers in it using a cd ??
[11:40] <ziroday> dot: not really sure (never used it myself), but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[11:41] <Anon2666> anyone?
[11:41] <dsdeiz> hi let's say firefox already has a new version, is the package being upgraded in the repository too?
[11:41] <zortec> bob_rock: Take a look at this and see if it helps.
[11:41] <zortec> bob_rock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[11:42] <SAMER_> any one there can help to install modem in ubuntu
[11:42] <bazhang> !latest | dsdeiz
[11:42] <ziroday> dsdeiz: not unless it qualifies for a SRU (so major bugs or security only)
[11:42] <lf4> !RAID
[11:42] <jack_> ubottu: doesn't work ... Connection refused :(
[11:42] <shredder12>  I have installed windows xp using virtual box in jaunty.. but how do i install the drivers in it using a cd ?? help!!
[11:42] <jerroome> Anon2666 : why did you use entire disk for ubuntu if you wanted to install Windows afterwards ?
[11:42] <Guest69044> from there you can install drivers
[11:43] <dsdeiz> hmm, let's say it was upgraded, do i just do sudo apt-get upgrade?
[11:43] <kbp> can anyone tell me what does "D" stand for in "SSHD" and how is it different from SSH?
[11:43] <jack_> Kopete too
[11:43] <ziroday> kbp: daemon
[11:43] <dsdeiz> it was upgraded in the repository rather
[11:43] <Guest69044> SSHD is the daemon
[11:43] <jerroome> Anon2666 :  if you want everything working without any configuration, install windows before Linux
[11:43] <ziroday> dsdeiz: yes, or use the update manager to recieve all available updates
[11:43] <kbp> ok thank you ziroday & Guest69044 :)
[11:43] <bazhang> dsdeiz, there is ff 3.5 but not the rc
[11:43] <jerroome> I'm not sure that Windozs is able to shrink disks
[11:43] <Anon2666> Hi, can anyone help me on reinstalling my windows xp? Ive try to install a fresh ubuntu but when i reinstall xp it comes up with BSOD
[11:44] <dsdeiz> ahh i see.. what if it's not upgraded in the repository.. do i compile it on my own? or get a deb file?
[11:44] <bazhang> Anon2666, install windows first
[11:44] <bob_rock> zortec: i did it but my brain is not good to follow the ways. tell me which code do i have to insert to my xorg.conf
[11:44] <Guest69044> everyone
[11:44] <bazhang> dsdeiz, or a PPA
[11:44] <laeg> ziroday: when i actually look in usr/share/application the pidgin icon is there if that's what you mean? if not how do i check my icon theme? also, changing to human? please bear in mind it's not just not displaying the icon, it's not displaying an entry.
[11:44] <hoonteke> Anon2666: likely that you didnt' put windows on the first partition
[11:44] <Guest69044> has anyone tried dual booting PCBSD and Jaunty
[11:44] <dsdeiz> ahh now it makes sense.. thanks :)
[11:44] <hoonteke> windows likes being in the first partition, what it deems as C:
[11:45] <iflema> Anon266: forget 1. WinBlows 2. install gparted, shrink a partition, do what you should not, then boot live ubuntu and reinstall grub. google this.
[11:45] <Anon2666> i made a full install of ubuntu "used entire disk"
[11:45] <BenTM> ok thx
[11:45] <ziroday> laeg: ah, I was under the assumption it was not displaying the icon but the entry.
[11:45] <jerroome> Anon2666 : you don't need to repeat yourself the whole time, a few people answered you ...
[11:46] <bazhang> Anon2666, you need to get help from ##windows if you can't install that; for help with fixing grub after a successful install,
[11:46] <bazhang> !grub > Anon2666
[11:46] <laeg> ziroday: trying to manually create the entry doesn't let me select the icon, point is the synaptic should manually create the entry and .desktop file - i did the latter manually last night...
[11:46] <jimmy_birer> !grub
[11:46] <zortec> bob_rock: Run xvidtune from the cli
[11:46] <bob_rock> zortec: SubSection "Display"  is just working for my login screen
[11:47] <bob_rock> zortec: the result is xvidtune
[11:47] <bob_rock> Unable to query monitor info
[11:47] <jimmy_birer> if you lost grub after installing windows,boot ubuntu live cd,fire up a terminal,type grub-install
[11:47] <gartral> why was compiz updated/
[11:47] <bob_rock> zortec: result = Unable to query monitor info
[11:47] <jimmy_birer> dude
[11:48] <jimmy_birer> configuring xorg.conf is so hard
[11:48] <lf4> jimmy_birer: What are you trying to do?
[11:48] <zortec> bob_rock: Ok, disable Xorg and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <zortec> bob_rock: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (or kdm for KDE)
[11:48] <jimmy_birer> lf4:im trying to convince people to switch back to their windows,just kidding!
[11:49] <bazhang> !ot > jimmy_birer
[11:49] <lf4> haha nice
[11:49] <Guest69044> hehe cool
[11:49] <jerroome> !ot > jerroome
[11:49] <jimmy_birer> bazhang,are you want to make me scream?
[11:49] <julen_> toma toma
[11:49] <jimmy_birer> any time i join,you f*** my brains
[11:49] <bazhang> jimmy_birer, please take chat elsewhere
[11:52] <zortec> I need to sleep, night guys
[11:52] <hoonteke> laters
[11:52] <hoonteke> I'm out too
[11:52] <Guest69044> thanks for the chat people
[11:52] <Guest69044> see yah...
[11:53] <bob_rock> zortec:  after running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg . the result of my xorg.conf is http://paste.ubuntu.com/202038/
[11:53] <bob_rock> zortec:?
[11:54] <tgblb> Hey, has anyone ever got gnome-voice-control working in 64-bit ubuntu?
[11:57] <bob_rock> zortect: you leave me?
[11:58] <bob_rock> Is is a good manner for zortec to leave me in the middle of instruction. I mess up my xorg.conf. room help me
[12:00] <natschil> bob_rock: what's wrong with your x server?
[12:00] <natschil> bob_rock: what version of ubuntu?
[12:01] <bob_rock> natschil: Ubuntu 9.04. I'll explain from the beginning.
[12:02] <delopart> hey
[12:02] <delopart> i cant find any suitable channel
[12:02] <delopart> what iis the port of daarp
[12:04] <veasmkii> Can anyone help me get this to work: echo "new line at end of file" >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I Just want to add text to the end of xorg.conf from a script
[12:05] <jack_> can anybody tell me a instant messenger client for ubuntu 9.04 who can connect to yahoo account ?
[12:05] <eykosioux> veasmkii, if you're not root... probably won't be able to write there (even if you sudo)
[12:05] <Bodsda> jack_: pidgin can i believe
[12:05] <natschil> veasmkii: you need to run as root, i.e. sudo echo ......
[12:05] <bazhang> pidgin jack_
[12:06] <jack_> Bodsda: pidgin doesn`t connect :(
[12:06] <veasmkii> natschil, doing this makes no difference :(
[12:06] <bazhang> !yahoo > jack_
[12:06] <natschil> jack_: kopete?
[12:06] <jack_> kopete and pidgin
[12:06] <jack_> none
[12:06] <veasmkii> doesn't even ask for the password, so i don't think it accepts sudo
[12:06] <jack_> i can't connect to my yahoo account
[12:06] <eykosioux> enter as root veasmkii
[12:06] <cyberghoser1> jack_, pidgin don't work for me either , i use amsn obviously it works for me
[12:06] <natschil> veasmkii: what's  the problem?
[12:06] <eykosioux> root (enter, your pass)
[12:06] <bob_rock> natschil: I installed Nvidia X server setting my VGA is Geforce2 MX 400. Graphic runs with no problem only i just want to keep resolution 1125x864 even though i reboot the machine. in fact it always gets back to 1027x768. for the clue he is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/202061/  All I want is resolution 1125x864 no matter it is restarted.
[12:06] <bazhang> jack_, you need to follow the instructions
[12:06] <jack_> cyberghoser1: can i connect to yahoo id with amsn ?
[12:06] <eykosioux> alternatively, write a script and run it as sudo
[12:06] <Myrtti> !noroot > eykosioux
[12:07] <cyberghoser1> jack_, for me it works right now, i hope
[12:07] <jack_> ok i`ll try ..
[12:07] <mobi-sheep> !yahoo | jack_
[12:07] <veasmkii> natschil: i'm trying to add lines to xorg.conf with the command line/script
[12:07] <natschil> !nvidia | bob_rock
[12:08] <bazhang> jack_, change your paging server as above
[12:08] <natschil> veasmkii: ok, log in as your normal user, do "sudo su" and then 'echo "the stuff you want to write" >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[12:08] <tigux> or try finch
[12:09] <veasmkii> natschil: doesn't seem to like it:  sudo su echo "test" >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf          bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[12:09] <natschil> veasmkii: no. do sudo su <Enter> then echo "test".....
[12:09] <mobi-sheep> !x11 | veasmkii
[12:10] <koshari> should i exclude /sys and /dev on my rsync backup?
[12:10] <SAMER_> no one to help
[12:10] <th0r> koshari: no
[12:10] <mobi-sheep> veasmkii: Learn to edit the file manually as you're risking your X11 to be corrupted as you're attempting to add [unknown lines] from script.
[12:10] <natschil> veasmkii: and you wouldn't want to do echo "test", as that would simply write "test" to the file
[12:10] <bob_rock> natschil: It is not the problem of installing but changing resolution permanently!
[12:11] <bob_rock> natschil: the code for my xorg.conf please!
[12:11] <bazhang> natschil, no need to enable root
[12:11] <veasmkii> natschil: Brilliant, that works :)
[12:11] <natschil> bazhang: I never said there was a need
[12:11] <bazhang> !noroot > natschil
[12:11] <jack_> ubottu: i did that allready, i get Connection Refused
[12:11] <veasmkii> thanks very much natschil
[12:11] <bazhang> natschil, so please dont suggest it here
[12:11] <natschil> veasmkii: np
[12:11] <natschil> bazhang: I never suggested it
[12:12] <koshari> th0r why , arnt they dynamicly created?
[12:12] <Mash> rabelais still up ?
[12:12] <natschil> bazhang: I simply said to do "sudo su" and then edit the file
[12:12] <th0r> koshari: yes, so why back them up? They are of no use to you and will change as conditions change
[12:12] <Bodsda> natschil: why not just  sudo $EDITOR file
[12:12] <jack_> cyberghoser1: i can`t connect to yahoo with amsn
[12:12] <jack_> :(
[12:12] <bazhang> natschil, gksudo gedit (not sudo su)
[12:12] <bob_rock> ubottu: It is not the problem of installing but changing resolution permanently! the code for my xorg.conf please!
[12:13] <koshari> th0r thats why i asked,
[12:13] <Bodsda> bob_rock: what are you trying to do?
[12:13] <cyberghoser1> bob_rock, something like this should help: Modeline "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 -HSync +VSync # 60 Hz
[12:13] <cyberghoser1> change the resolution to yours
[12:13] <natschil> bazhang: right, but he wanted to append something from a command , assuming without X , to the file -> no gksudo
[12:13] <mobi-sheep> !pidgin | jack_
[12:13] <Mash> could anyone help me on this
[12:13] <Mash> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
[12:13] <Parsi> i want to make sure i've latest version of vga driver, how could i?
[12:13] <Mash> --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf.
[12:13] <cyberghoser1> in xorg.conf always
[12:13] <bazhang> natschil, then sudo nano
[12:13] <mobi-sheep> !yahoo | jack_
[12:14] <bob_rock> Bobsda: I installed Nvidia X server setting my VGA is Geforce2 MX 400. Graphic runs with no problem only i just want to keep resolution 1125x864 even though i reboot the machine. in fact it always gets back to 1027x768. for the clue he is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/202061/  All I want is resolution 1125x864 no matter it is restarted.
[12:14] <natschil> bazhang: I think there's something with permissions on xorg.conf that don't seem to let you use echo
[12:14] <mobi-sheep> jack_: Try changing the paging server or you can upgrade to latest pidgin version 2.5.7
[12:14] <natschil> bazhang: to append some lines
[12:14] <laeg> i have the following pidgin.desktop file in /usr/share/applications ( http://pastebin.com/m342addc2 ) but it does not display the shortcut in applications >> internet menu - from a previous install in edit menus i had unchecked pidgin and also deleted it - how can i remedy this?
[12:14] <Goutam> pls can anyone help me change my ubuntu resolution to 1024 x 768..... this resolution option is not there in the display settiings
[12:14] <jack_> i already have 2.5.7
[12:14] <mobi-sheep> !X11 | Goutam
[12:14] <bob_rock> cyberghoser1: which code that i have to insert  http://paste.ubuntu.com/202061/
[12:15] <bazhang> jack_, did you change the paging server yet
[12:15] <Goutam> ubottu: thnx :D
[12:15] <Mash> PPP negotiation detected.
[12:15] <Mash> --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
[12:15] <Mash> --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf.
[12:15] <PervertedMonk> Hi does Xchat incorporate the new notification system in Jaunty?
[12:15] <Jasson> hi how to put system to suspend-to-disk mode?
[12:15] <Mash> can you help me on that ?
[12:15] <cyberghoser1> bob_rock, under the monitor section in xorg.conf add this:
[12:15] <cyberghoser1> Modeline "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 -HSync +VSync # 60 Hz
[12:15] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Yes -- Assuming you set everything up.
[12:15] <cyberghoser1> change 1024x600 to your resolution and reboot
[12:16] <natschil> Goutam: ubottu is a bot :)
[12:16] <io__> it?
[12:16] <Jasson> i write echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep but noth happens
[12:16] <io__> ubuntu it?
[12:16] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: what setting up is required?
[12:16] <bob_rock> cyberghoser1: i want 1125x864
[12:16] <bazhang> io__, /join #ubuntu-it
[12:16] <jack_> bazhang: i did, CONNECTION REFUSED is the answer from pidgin
[12:16] <cyberghoser1> change 1024x600 in my code to yours
[12:16] <Bodsda> bob_rock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1134230&postcount=2
[12:17] <bob_rock> cyberghoser1: is it : Modeline "1125x864" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 -HSync +VSync # 60 Hz
[12:17] <Mash> anyone knows gnome-ppp configuration |
[12:17] <Mash> anyone knows gnome-ppp configuration?
[12:17] <Goutam> natschil: that means my ques ws answered automatically???
[12:17] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Look somewhere under Preferences.  I get notification messages when somebody highlighted my nickname.
[12:17] <bazhang> Mash, dont repeat
[12:17] <mobi-sheep> Goutam: No.  I redirected the command to you.  ubottu is not that intelligent. ;)
[12:18] <achillion> In order to get circular scrolling and double finger scrolling working for my touchpad, is it preferable to edit xorg.conf, or install gsynaptics? (Xubuntu 8.04)
[12:18] <natschil> Goutam: in a way, someon wrote !X11 |Goutam ,and ubottu then got its entry for X11 and displayed it
[12:18] <Goutam> mobi-sheep: oh my god.... irc is great ... i dnt know why was i stuck wid IMs for so many days for technical information........
[12:19] <natschil> Goutam: some questions are asked a lot, so it's easier to save stuff in ubottu than repeating the whole thing
[12:19] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: which setting enables the ubuntu notification thingie though
[12:19] <cyberghoser1> bob_rock,  try this: Modeline "1125x864" 48.96 1125 1064 1168 1312 864 601 604 622 -HSync +VSync # 60 Hz
[12:19] <datta> my flash is lagging all the time when i go to scribd.com
[12:19] <mobi-sheep> Goutam: IRC was used by people to keep in constant information during World War II and such. :)
[12:19] <jack_> jack@AlexDej:~$ pidgin
[12:19] <jack_> warning: incompatible stripping characters and condition:
[12:19] <jack_> SFX
[12:19] <metalfan__> hi
[12:19] <datta> what should i do about this because it doesn't really work
[12:19] <jack_> what`s this ?
[12:19] <eykosioux> i'm having problems connecting with a public key through ssh on one server
[12:19] <metalfan__> how do i know if this ubuntu-server installation has encrypted home enabled or not?
[12:19] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: I think it's already toggled on.
[12:19] <eykosioux> the rest work okay, but this one keeps asking for a password
[12:20] <natschil> mobi-sheep: umm...IRC was created in 1988
[12:20] <laeg> User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $home directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users - i get this on login, how can i remedy it?
[12:20] <PervertedMonk> that sucks...it highlights my nick in red in Xchat mobi-sheep but no ubuntu notification appears
[12:20] <natschil> mobi-sheep: that would mean IRC was something like 20 years older than the internet :D
[12:20] <natschil> mobi-sheep: s/20/40
[12:21] <mobi-sheep> natschil: Err.. Maybe not World War II but a similar small regional/international wars. :)
[12:21] <bob_rock> cyberghoser1: ok i ll try it and doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop right
[12:21] <Boohbah> natschil, mobi-sheep: ahh yes, the IRC-over-morse-code protocol :)
[12:21] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: When closing XChat, does XChat go to a tray?
[12:21] <refic> "not world war II but similar small regional wars" :)
[12:21] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: yes
[12:21] <Bodsda> small? religeous? << offtopic?
[12:22] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Okay.  Close it.  I'll send you a message in 10 seconds.
[12:22] <refic> Bodsda: yeah, sorry
[12:22] <Janhouse> How can I make keyrong store passwords?
[12:22] <Bodsda> ty :)
[12:22] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Test.
[12:22] <datta> please tell me what is wrong with flash in ubuntu
[12:22] <datta> i need to read the document from scribd
[12:22] <Janhouse> On Debian it remembered synaptics password. On Ubuntu it doesn't
[12:22] <Janhouse> *keyring
[12:23] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: the xchat icon blinks :) but i was talking about the ubuntu notification like when transmission finishes downloading a torrent
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: run it with  gksudo synaptic
[12:23] <natschil> !keyring |Janhouse
[12:24] <Janhouse> !keyring
[12:24] <Janhouse> ActionParsnip, I can't edit menu.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: which menu?
[12:25] <Janhouse> main menu
[12:25] <Janhouse> I hate that I have to retype password every time
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: is it editable with a right click then choose something from there?
[12:26] <Janhouse> Why keyring doesn't store those passwords?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: its security. once you et setup yu will rarely type it
[12:26] <the_dark_warrio> What is the updating policy of Ubuntu? I have Glade installed from repo (3.6.3) but glade is already at 3.6.6
[12:26] <the_dark_warrio> will Ubuntu update to 3.6.6?
[12:26] <bazhang> !latest | the_dark_warrio
[12:26] <Janhouse> But it doesn't even offer to remember those passwords.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_warrio: it gets updated when it gets updated. if you can find a ppa or deb with the newer version on then go for it
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: it does for a short time
[12:27] <the_dark_warrio> I see. Thanks!
[12:27] <freeall> Hi. Does anyone know how to get the width+height of a terminal. Here I think in how many number of chars there can be horizontally and vertically.
[12:28] <Janhouse> After I installed jaunty it asked it, yes. I told it to remember password. it seems like it store them in /dev/null :D
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: are you on about so you dont have to password up for sudo, or are you talking about something like wireless security keys?
[12:29] <grw_> frm
[12:29] <Janhouse> For beginning I would like keyring to remember sudo password.
[12:29] <hunor> sziasztok
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: if you want to edit your gnome menus you can use alacarte
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte
[12:30] <Janhouse> So I don't have to enter it every time I am trying to install .deb package or something like that
[12:30] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: san?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: not going to happen. you willalways be asked for security verification
[12:31] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk:  Send me a message in 10 second.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: you can use   sudo -i   to get an elevated console which you can run your admin tasks in
[12:31] <Janhouse> Sucks. On Debian there was option to remember my password for ever.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: keep its use to a minimal though
[12:31] <vega> what about putting NOPASSWD in sudoers file?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: dont you think that is massively unsecure?
[12:31] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: This is gmathews
[12:31] <Janhouse> Can't I decide what is secure for me?
[12:31] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: come in mobi-sheep san
[12:32] <achillion> Hey guys. I have a problem with the sensors plugin. It works ok, but every time it gets loaded at startup I get an error that "hddtemp" was not executed correctly. Is there any way to fix this?
[12:32] <Janhouse> No freedom for users...
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: ubuntu is aimed at folks new to linux so it trys to enforce a lot of security by default so newbs can be ok
[12:32] <ziroday> achillion: what does /etc/init.d/hddtemp start say?
[12:32] <th0r> Janhouse: see vega 's comment about NOPASSWD
[12:32] <Janhouse> I am just saying that it should offer remembering passwords.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: you can configure it differently but i refuse to support it. too many users doing it then breaking their systems
[12:32] <tunnuz> Hello people ... what to do when the partitioner hangs at 33% during install?
[12:32] <ziroday> achillion: or if you don't want that at all you can do sudo apt-get remove hddtemp all together and then dpkg-reconfigure sensors-applet
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: it does for a grace period, then you will be asked again
[12:32] <ziroday> tunnuz: wait
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: if you run: sudo apt-get update
[12:33] <tunnuz> ziroday, I'll wait, but is there a timeout?
[12:33] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: I got the notify-osb message -- but not when the XChat is active (displayed) on Windows.
[12:33] <kbp> I need  help with Samba: how can you add more than 1 path in the parameter? (for example I want 1 user can access 2 paths on the server, do I use ";" or "," or ..?) thanx alot
[12:33] <tunnuz> ziroday, I could wait for hours :)
[12:33] <laeg> User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $home directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users - i get this on login, how can i remedy it?
[12:33] <ziroday> tunnuz: no, its partitioning correct?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: then run: sudo apt-get upgrade    you are not asked for your password on the upgrade as you are in the grace period
[12:33] <achillion> hm, that might work. Before it kept telling me that I didn't have hddtemp. Would reconfiguring it make it stop looking for hddtemp?
[12:33] <tunnuz> ziroday, what do you mean?
[12:33] <Janhouse> ActionParsnip, this problem with keyring not remembering passwords on ubuntu is main reason I am mostly using terminal...
[12:33] <ziroday> tunnuz: which part of the install is at?
[12:33] <Janhouse> :D
[12:33] <ziroday> achillion: yes
[12:33] <achillion> great
[12:34] <tunnuz> ziroday, it's creating the ext3 file system.
[12:34] <achillion> thanks!
[12:34] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: what does that mean...and how do u get the notify-osb message
[12:34] <Bodsda> laeg: run   sudo chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[12:34] <scales11> tunnuz: check your install media
[12:34] <Janhouse> I hate typing my Uber long password every time I want to update my sistem
[12:34] <Janhouse> *system
[12:34] <ziroday> tunnuz: and how large is the hard drive/partition?
[12:34] <tunnuz> ziroday, 80 GB
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: you can use   sudo -i   to get an interactive sudo and you can run multiple cli commands without worrying about the sudo timer expiring
[12:34] <usr13> Janhouse: You are terminal?
[12:34] <ziroday> tunnuz: then you will need to wait (a while)
[12:34] <scales11> tunnuz: you may have burned a bad cd.  you can do a disc check i think right at boot
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: you could cron a script to run as root to upgrade your system while you sleep / are at work
[12:35] <tunnuz> scales11, I checked the install media, and there was a problem with libradius, then I burned another one, now the problem is with libruby, but I don't think that libruby is fundamental for partitioning.
[12:35] <sjokkis> hi. i want to prevent my system from loading the floppy module on boot. i've added it to /etc/modprobe.d/backlist.conf, but that isn't helping. i'm sure i've spelled it correctly.
[12:35] <ziroday> scales11: its really not a good idea to interrupt an install, especially during the formatting stage
[12:35] <laeg> Bodsda: done, is that it?
[12:35] <Bodsda> laeg: possibly, try it
[12:35] <laeg> Bodsda: ty mate
[12:35] <Janhouse> That is not a solution. I guess I am too used to Debian. I will have to get used to Ubuntu and the way it works.
[12:35] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Join #xchat -- I'm there and I just asked the question.
[12:35] <tunnuz> ziroday, ok I'll wait for a while
[12:35] <scales11> ziroday: i dont disagree with you there, i meant to check it before hand.
[12:35] <lstarnes> tunnuz: it may be needed for programs that are programmed with ruby
[12:36] <ziroday> sjokkis: its /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (no .conf) and the syntax is blacklist <module>
[12:36] <Bodsda> laeg: your welcome
[12:36] <tunnuz> lstarnes, yes but during install?
[12:36] <Janhouse> but it is like going back to Windows where it asks "Are you sure???". Only in this case I have to enter LONG password to move on.
[12:36] <tunnuz> anyway I'm downloading a new image ... just in case
[12:36] <achillion> ziroday, I just reloaded and it's fine. Thanks for the help!
[12:36] <scales11> tunnuz: if you are getting errors then something is wrong with your disc, i dont think you can just elude to the fact that one .dll is corrupt and figure it will install ok
[12:36] <usr13> Janhouse: You could also change your system so that it works just like Debian.
[12:36] <ziroday> achillion: have fun
[12:37] <sjokkis> ziroday: strange. i had a file named /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf from before. isn't the old syntax (without .conf) deprecated recently? perhaps that's where the problem is
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: its a good security measure and is much more secure than users logging on as root and runing web apps which is massively unsecure
[12:37] <tunnuz> scales11, that's why I'm downloading a new image
[12:37] <ziroday> tunnuz: check out the md5sums before and after buring the disk, if having trouble downloading use a download manager or bittorrent
[12:37] <Janhouse> I am not talking about running web apps as root. :D
[12:37] <sjokkis> ziroday: no bother. i'll just add a symlink
[12:37] <ziroday> sjokkis: nope, its always been /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist AFAIK
[12:37] <Janhouse> I am talking about running synaptics at my home.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: i know but its that sort of security imposed by using sudo
[12:38] <sjokkis> very strange. anyway. thank you ziroday
[12:38] <Bodsda> Janhouse: the fact of the matter is, it is there for a reason, If you truly understand all the consequences then you should be able to discover for yourself how to remove the behaviour
[12:38] <scales11> tunnuz: well then that is good.  bad cds happe, you can also run a chksum before you burn it, to make sure your image is good
[12:38] <ziroday> sjokkis: have fun
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Bodsda: +1 there
[12:38] <chevdor> just a quick note to those who kept saying we cannot boot up on a RAID1/10 array, it IS possible and it works.
[12:38] <Janhouse> Bodsda, yeah. I will eventualy :D
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: sure is, get a raid card and you can have any level of raid yo desire
[12:39] <sjokkis> yo yo
[12:39] <Xcell> poof  ur a yo yo
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo sjokkis
[12:39] <bazhang> Xcell, ??
[12:39] <Bodsda> Janhouse: then I wish you good luck in your adventures, as long as they are not in this channel as that would be unfair to new users with itchy terminal fingers
[12:40] <Xcell> lol itchy terminal fingers...
[12:40] <Xcell> apt-get removebillgates
[12:40] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: well people kepts saying this is not possible :) I am using no raid card but the NVIDIA nForce4 on chipset, also called FakeRaid or whatever
[12:40] <bazhang> !ot > Xcell
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: yeah fakeraid suck imho
[12:41] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: fakeraid works imo :) (not enough experience using it to say it sucks), so far the bench under windows showed great results, windows installs in 8 minutes....
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: try a raid card with 256Mb cache
[12:42] <Bodsda> chevdor: 'installs' in 8 minutes, it can barely start the setup procedure in that time on a non-raid 1.8ghz machine
[12:42] <Bo0sTeR> &avatar
[12:42] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: pci ?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: pci-x
[12:42] <tunnuz> scales11, in fact ... the md5 is ok
[12:42] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: because then you are limited to the pci / pci-x bandwidth
[12:43] <scales11> tunnuz: ok
[12:43] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Hi.
[12:43] <tunnuz> should I burn it from an ubuntu machine?
[12:43] <tunnuz> I'm using OSX to burn it
[12:43] <chevdor> Bodsda: not saying this is good or not, that it boots or not.... I am saying, usually it takes around 40 minutes (on my pc) and now it is down to 8 minutes, on the same pc
[12:43] <Bodsda> tunnuz: should make no difference, just burn at a low speed
[12:44] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: :)
[12:44] <Bodsda> chevdor: wow, thats good :)
[12:44] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: you are running it ? what is the price ? that would be nice to compare
[12:44] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Hmm.  It does not work.  You're looking at... (Let me get it).
[12:44] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: is there an osd plugin?
[12:44] <tunnuz> Bodsda, like 8x or like 2x?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: its less bursty though due to the cache
[12:44] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: If you're using Ubuntu Jaunty, it's already installed.
[12:44] <chevdor> Bodsda: to be VERY honnest I had crappy HD before because I always thought it does not change anything... well it does !
[12:44] <Bodsda> tunnuz: your burning the ubuntu cd yeah? slowest possible for most accurate results
[12:44] <Oli```> Anybody know any good tutorials for stripping down a ubuntu install to use it as a fast, lean media-center? I've already got boxee (and some other apps) installed but I the machine to boot faster and be a little more responsive
[12:45] <Bodsda> chevdor: yeah, i have had similar experiences with hd speed
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Oli```: run:    dpkg -l | less
[12:45] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: with my current solution, cache is not bad because I have 4x32Mo... well let's count 2x32Mo because Mirroring does not improve speed
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Oli```: read through the apps and remove what you do not use. rubbish like evolution, evince, openoffice, gimp are good starts
[12:45] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Look under XChat Preferences --> Chattings --> Alerts
[12:45] <nate[oz]> any gedit experts on? :)
[12:45] <ziroday> Oli```: you can start from ubuntu-minimal and then build what you need, or use the XBMC live usb. If you want to improve boot time then profiling it is probably your best bet
[12:46] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: on jaunty..but maybe an xchat plug in?
[12:46] <ceal> how do i configure my broadband on ubuntu?
[12:46] <Bodsda> Oli```: 'stripping down' and 'media-center' dont usually go in the same sentence, but try something like minimal ubuntu + fluxbox, or puppylinux as a base
[12:46] <ziroday> !anyone | nate[oz]
[12:46] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: You want to toggle on "Show tray ballons on: " -- Say my name now.
[12:46] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: !
[12:46] <ceal> i have been searching forums without any luck: none of the methods work...
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> nate[oz]: its a text editor, not much to be expert in really
[12:46] <chevdor> Bodsda: going from a crappy hd to a nice one helps a bit, plus adding raid0 makes it very nice (raid 10 even better in my case because I did not like the x2 failure factor of raid 0 :))
[12:46] <usr13> ceal: pppoe?
[12:46] <Bodsda> chevdor: yeah
[12:46] <ceal> usr13: yeah
[12:47] <usr13> !pppoe | ceal
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: and raid0 isntstrictly raid ;)
[12:47] <zopiac> where is smb.conf?
[12:47] <fcn> hi i'm trying to track total size of action on my local area network using libpcap. i'm looking for example code or some good tutorial. can someone please help me?
[12:47] <tunnuz> Bodsda, thank you
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> zopiac: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:47] <zopiac> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:47] <ceal> usr13: i tried this method
[12:47] <mobi-sheep> What is ChanServ?  Would #ubuntu considered as ChanServ ?
[12:47] <Bodsda> tunnuz: your welcome
[12:47] <ceal> usr13:it keeps saying nothing found
[12:47] <Bodsda> mobi-sheep: no, chanserv is a bot
[12:47] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: that sounds like trolling... I won't go into this and just say : yes indeed, thus the name "0", and I don't use raid 0 anyway but raid 10
[12:47] <usr13> ceal: Tell us more.
[12:47] <ziroday> mobi-sheep: chanserv is a service offered by freenode, more information in #freenode
[12:48] <ceal> first about the connection
[12:48] <nate[oz]> ActionParsnip it becomes more complicated when plugin development comes into play
[12:48] <ceal> it's not programmed into my modem
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: well theres no redundncy in raid0, and the r in raid stands for redundant
[12:48] <ceal> i have to double click an icon and it asks for password and i connect like that in windows
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: it uses the same mechanics of multiple drive acces but isnt true raid
[12:49] <ceal> hold on let me tell you the exact error i get...
[12:49] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: beep me
[12:49] <Bodsda> ActionParsnip: the I stands for inexpensive, but thats relative to how much you paid, :)
[12:49] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Beep.
[12:49] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:49] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: raid 0 has been a result of the RAID architecture, now the meaning of raid is more 'multiple disks'. Now I agree w/ you, when someone says I use raid0 to make it more secure, i start feeling bad :)
[12:49] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: It worked when your XChat is not active, right?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> bobslaede: true but they can be inexpensive, there is stil no redundancy in raid0
[12:49] <usr13> ceal: Did you use pppoeconf?
[12:49] <PervertedMonk> yep mobi-sheep
[12:50] <ceal> usr13: yes i did
[12:50] <PervertedMonk> makes nosense if it was active though mobi-sheep
[12:50] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Yeah.  Mine too.  I'm trying to figure out how we can do this with XChat window displaying.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: true but theres still no redundancy so isnt true raid in a sense of the acronym
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: otherwise you are right
[12:50] <chevdor> ActionParsnip: do you run your pci-x card on your pc ? Do you know of a linux hd benchmark software ? if so, we could compare, that would be fun :)))
[12:50] <usr13> ceal: Tell us the exact error?
[12:50] <ceal> hold on
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> chevdor: no idea duder
[12:51] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Well -- Yes but I'm trying to figure out.  Beep me.
[12:51] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: testing
[12:52] <ceal> it says it
[12:52] <MaT-dg> is it possible to install firefox 3.5 beta/RC from the repo's?
[12:52] <ceal> has found the network devices successfully; but i just get a window that says "looking for eth0"
[12:52] <ziroday> !info firefox-3.5 > MaT-dg
[12:52] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: I'll look for XChat scripts.  There must be something there.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> MaT-dg: its beta so i doubt it
[12:52] <ceal> then it cycles to wloan0 and pan0
[12:53] <usr13> ceal: ifconfig
[12:53] <ceal> it keeps looking for PPPoE Access Concentrator
[12:53] <ubu1> I have a problem. I have Flash but I cant play videos from Cnet Tv. Please, help!
[12:53] <ceal> what in ifconfig do you want to know?
[12:53] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: sweet :)
[12:53] <usr13> ceal: pastebin it
[12:54] <ceal> i cant it's on the laptop and i am on the desktop!!
[12:54] <pawan> cant mount volume
[12:54] <usr13> ceal: We need to know if you have eth0 or eth1 or what.
[12:54] <ceal> eth0
[12:54] <ceal> that's what is shown here
[12:54] <usr13> ceal: What is the ip address for your modem?
[12:54] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: On a plus note, it do work when XChat is minimized too, not just tray'd.
[12:54] <ceal> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:54] <ceal> that's the router itself right?
[12:55] <ceal> router modem are all the same rt?
[12:55] <usr13> ceal: Set eth0 to an IP in that subnet.
[12:55] <Janhouse> ok ActionParsnip, easy solution. Had to open gconf-editor and make gksu save passwords in keyring ;)
[12:55] <pawan> !mount
[12:55] <ceal> it is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:55] <PervertedMonk> mobi-sheep: sweet guess thats what i wanted..thanks!
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: i prefer security
[12:55] <usr13> ceal: What is the model number of your modem?
[12:56] <ceal> Huawei SmartAX MT841
[12:56] <Janhouse> I prefer security on server not on desktop pvc
[12:56] <Janhouse> *pc
[12:56] <mobi-sheep> PervertedMonk: Welcome.  Sorry we both could not active everything. :)
[12:57] <adac> I installed passenger for to be able to run ruby on rails with apache2. Now I have the problem that other php webapps won't open anymore. any ideas?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: you are only as strong as your lamest duck
[12:57] <usr13> ceal: Do you have the modem set for pass-through?
[12:58] <Mylisto> hey everyone
[12:58] <Mylisto> heres a post that I came across on a forum
[12:58] <Mylisto> "
[12:58] <Mylisto> So we need to build interesting new feedback loops such as using a PA system, and/or personal amplification devices (with headphones), a voice synthesizer to help amplify certain qualities &/or annoyances... an oscilloscope for visual feedback on various vocal effects, and also a histogram display for visual feedback on what frequencies we're producing. Once multiple rounds of that have been experienced, NLPers are far more capable
[12:58] <Mylisto> of hearing differently and adjusting their own output with greater efficacy and consistency. Then begins a range of skills-drills to discover further strengths & weaknesses, as well as practice new sounds and such.
[12:58] <FloodBot1> Mylisto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <Mylisto> are there any programs for ubuntu to do any of these things?
[12:58] <Janhouse> I don't download weird programs, don't run them as root. And I have firewall that blocks most ports. Anyway I am in lan :D
[12:58] <ubu1> I have a problem. I have Flash but I cant play videos from Cnet Tv. Please, help!
[12:59] <alejandro> hi, I have a german compaq laptop which I have to set to UK keyboard each time I turn it on... it keeps switching back to a german keyboard model.
[12:59] <Mylisto> ubul: you have firefox?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: we'll see eh.
[12:59] <Janhouse> Only way to actually do something to my PC is to get to it physically :D
[12:59] <ubu1> yes
[12:59] <alejandro> So I'm always in keyboard layouts setting it back when I turn it on... any idea how to fix that-
[12:59] <alejandro> ?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: just remember there are many good reasons why ubuntu is how it is, you just circumvented many professional meetings and decisions by highly qualified linux engineers
[13:00] <ceal> here's the error in pppoe in case needed http://paste.ubuntu.com/202100/
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: doesnt make any sense to me but if you are happy then thats all that matters right
[13:00] <Janhouse> They made it for everyone else. :D
[13:01] <ceal> usr13: i did this with just the laptop connected to the modem; no luck same error
[13:01] <zanden> is there anyway to configure the kernel to prevent users from listing others running process , and limiting them as just ps -x ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: whatever
[13:01] <Safari> I got a question i want to install KDE desktop to try and i tried kubuntu and i don't like it much cause everything has a different name and all is it possible to just install the KDE desktop and not install the programs?
[13:02] <Janhouse> ActionParsnip, could you please give me one reason not to save gksudo password in keyring?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | Safari
[13:02] <bazhang> Janhouse, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:02] <Janhouse> ok
[13:02] <Safari> thanks :)
[13:03] <ceal> can anyone help me out?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: if you dont understand why its a bad idea then you clearly have no idea of security and why ubuntu is set how it is. Its people like you that need the security measures. the fact that you are asking me proves this
[13:03] <karel> hi
[13:03] <ceal> i get this error when i try to configure my broadband for ubuntu 9.04
[13:04] <ceal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/202100/
[13:04] <ceal> i execute the command pppoeconf
[13:04] <ubu1> I have a problem. I have Flash but I cant play videos from Cnet Tv. Please, help!
[13:04] <usr13> ceal: You need to go through the proceedure again and see where you went wrong. Just that it cant find eth0 isn't enough information for us to go on, we need to know exactly what went wrong.
[13:05] <usr13> ceal: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[13:05] <Spike1506> what does pppoeconf do?
[13:05] <ceal> let me try...
[13:05] <ceal> it shows the error spike
[13:05] <ceal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/202100/
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ubu1: can you watch youtube and other flas goodies?
[13:05] <usr13> ceal: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> *flash
[13:06] <ubu1> yes, i can watch youtube fine.
[13:06] <ceal> yes
[13:06] <Spike1506> ceal, i mean: what does it actually do? *has no clue what pppoeconf is*
[13:06] <ceal> successful
[13:06] <alejandro> hi, I have a german compaq laptop which is stuck on a german keyboard model. It keeps switching back to it on reboot.
[13:06] <ceal> pppoeconf is used to configure the broadband i guess
[13:07] <ceal> it finds out all the network interfaces successfully
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> ubu1: weird
[13:07] <karel> I have ubuntu 9.04 (upgraded yesterday from Xubuntu 8..), but I can't play mp3's with Rhythmbox nor Amarok. Yesterday I installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras" and I was able to play mp3's with Rhythmbox (not with amarok) and today I installed Banshee to put some music on my iPod and now Rhythmbox/Banshee/Amarok won't play mp3, I uninstalled Banhsee - Rhythmbox is still not working, amarok has been silent all the time :S, could anyone help plea
[13:07] <karel> se?
[13:07] <ceal> but then keeps scanning for access concentrator;
[13:07] <cypr1nus> hello, where can I find setting for eth0 network card, file like if-eth0 ?
[13:07] <usr13> ceal: Do you have another PC connected to the internet at this time?  ... Obviously you do.  YOu have saddled a dead horse.
[13:07] <Mylisto> anyone here versed in audio applications for ubuntu?  I have some small things I want to tackle
[13:07] <ceal> i did it without it too
[13:07] <ceal> no luck usr 13
[13:08] <ubu1> yes. I don't know what to do.
[13:08] <usr13> ceal: You can only initiate one connection at a time.  You already have one connection and will not be able to make another.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ubu1: I'd log a bug duder
[13:08] <Mylisto> anyone here versed in audio applications for ubuntu?  I have some small things I want to tackle
[13:08] <ceal> usr13: but i did it with just the laptop connected to the modem and nothing else too;
[13:08] <usr13> ceal: You need to get a router and share the connection.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Mylisto: just ask
[13:08] <ubu1> ok
[13:09] <pawan> !mount
[13:09] <ceal> usr13: is my modem a router?
[13:09] <usr13> ceal: If you tell the PC you are using to disconnect, then the other one will be able to connect.
[13:09] <safag> how do i uninstall music tracker plugin in pidgin ?
[13:09] <ceal> usr13: i am gonna try it
[13:09] <ceal> and get back to you ok
[13:09] <karel> Pidgin->Plugins and disable it
[13:09] <ceal> i am sure it wont work still
[13:09] <usr13> ceal: that is the way it works.
[13:09] <Mylisto> actionparsnip: its kind of complicated...
[13:10] <usr13> ceal: If you get a router that does pppoe you can use that.
[13:10] <safag> karel:  dude ,i wanna remove it , and get early version ,coz new one in not stable
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Mylisto: you could use pastebin and write an essay if yu wish
[13:10] <ceal> usr13: does the fact that the username and password not being programmed into the modem have any significance?
[13:10] <karel> search it in Synaptic and remove? did you try that?
[13:10] <Mylisto> actionparsnip: if you go to http://www.nlpconnections.com/27556-post4.html I'm talking about doing what is talked about in the fourth paragraph
[13:11] <usr13> ceal: If you connect one PC with two NICs and tell it to share through the other NIC, you can have two connected.  etc. etc.  But only one pppoe connection can be initiated .
[13:11] <cyberghoser1> !pastebin
[13:11] <safag>  karel:  no ,how do i do it ,i installed ubuntu 2 days ago ,i m a newbie , how do i do it?
[13:11] <usr13> ceal: If the modem does pppoe authentication, you can use it to share with multiple PCs.
[13:11] <karel> safag: System>Administration>Synaptic package manager
[13:11] <buch> anyone have some knowledge to sound and flash problem? My problem is Flash (Like youtube ect ect) sound doesnt work but Rhythmebox in ubuntu works great?
[13:11] <usr13> ceal: But I do not think that particular modem does pppoe
[13:12] <safag> karel:  opened , now ?
[13:12] <xuebix> ceal: most routers will have a function to tell the modem your username and password
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Mylisto: crazy stuff
[13:12] <karel> safag: quicksearch pidgin-musictracker
[13:12] <ceal> usr13: but my connection is pppoe usr13
[13:12] <BryanC> I get slightly faster audio when playing music using xbmc. Does anyone know what can cause this?
[13:12] <ceal> i am actually using the modem to access the net
[13:12] <safag> karel:  got it ,it has a green mark ,now ?
[13:13] <Mylisto> actionparsnip: why would you say that?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Mylisto: sounds complex
[13:13] <karel> safag: I have it in different language but, right click on it and set it to be removed
[13:13] <safag> karel:  mark for removal or complete removal ?
[13:13] <cyberghoser1> !cloning
[13:13] <karel> safag: removal I guess
[13:13] <safag> kk
[13:14] <safag> karel:  then if i again install old version , stable version of it ,then it will work fine ?
[13:14] <pawan> how to mount
[13:14] <safag> through getdeb.net
[13:14] <karel> safag: yeah, it should
[13:14] <ghostlines> does anyone know if it's possible to mount a remote dvd drive?
[13:14] <safag> kk i will od it now ,thanqqs
[13:14] <karel> safag: you know where to get the old version?
[13:15] <safag> yaa ,www.getdeb.net
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ghostlines: if its shared properly, yes
[13:16] <bob_rock> who is the one that helped me?
[13:16] <sipior> BryanC: might be playing back at 48kHz, instead of 44.1.
[13:16] <Janhouse> ActionParsnip, and yet you couldn't tell me one reason why not use it as I do. P.S. Is Debian less secure? It offers that option to store it in keyring...
[13:17] <dylanmcd> I'd like to setup a custom Ubuntu install with a different window manager, customized vim settings, and stuff like that. Has anyone done something like this? Could you point me in the right direction?
[13:17] <karel> My Amarok doesn't play mp3 (amarok 2 and ubuntu 9.04) anyone has any ideas?
[13:17] <wbc> How may I add Windows XP to the GRUB list when it is installed on an external hard-drive?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: im not entertaining it. it does make the system less secure, just as having the root account disabled is a good practise too
[13:18] <mobi-sheep> !remaster | dylanmcd
[13:18] <Janhouse> still nothing...
[13:18] <FeasibilityStudy> wbc edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:18] <FeasibilityStudy> wbc examples should be in that file.
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: its there for a reason. if you want a less secure system its your call. why don't yu just chmod every single file to 777 and be done
[13:18] <dylanmcd> mobi-sheep: Thanks, I'll check out those links
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: the you wont have any security issues will you as all files wil be accessible
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: no matter who the user is
[13:19] <mobi-sheep> dylanmcd: Also --> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys :)
[13:19] <Janhouse> ...
[13:19] <bazhang> Janhouse, please chat elsewhere
[13:19] <bob_rock> ubottu: after digging my machine, the way to change resolution permanently is just go to System -> Preferences -> Display. No need to dig up my /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Just reboot my machine and it stays to resolution what i want.
[13:20] <chevdor> bob_rock: bummer :)
[13:21] <felix__> Hello! I have a problem with my graphics card. I updated ubuntu today and now the card does not work anymore. I can't activate the driver via the GUI tool.
[13:21] <gmathews> Hi what is a good newsreader for ubuntu..to open .nzb files?
[13:21] <felix__> It is an Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT.
[13:22] <wbc> If sda is hd,0 is sdb hd,1?
[13:22] <bob_rock> chevdor: Funny story at me, They try give me the way how to go to the moon in fact what i need is just how to ride bicycle.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> gmathews: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/578168.html
[13:22] <sipior> wbc: yes, although the comma is usually used to separate the disk from the partition number, so hd1, not hd,1.
[13:23] <gruby_> gruby
[13:23] <zeeble> what is a .nzb file, gmathews?
[13:23] <zeeble> pan is a nice news reader though
[13:23] <chevdor> bob_rock: :))
[13:24] <gmathews> zeeble: http://www.binaries4all.com/nzb/
[13:25] <LinuxFreakD> Anyone had a problem with acidrip freezing on crop detection and know a quick fix?
[13:25] <bob_rock> chevdor: I don't know remember what i have talked to but thank for the eager to help.
[13:25] <bob_rock> chevdor: I don't remember i mean
[13:26] <zeeble> gmathews: well, none of those supported news readers looks to be available on linux
[13:26] <manousos> anyone from greece in here
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> !greece
[13:26] <bazhang> manousos, #ubuntu-gr there surely will be :)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> yeah all 19 of them
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> well 18, now i left
[13:27] <LinuxFreakD> Anyone else had a problem with acidrip freezing on crop detection and knows a quick fix?
[13:27] <bob_rock> ubottu: !love ubottu
[13:27] <manousos> φιλε μου ειμαι νεοσ με το λινουξ και δεν ξερο πως να μπω στους ελληνικους σερβερ
[13:28] <mafsi> manousos: type (without quotes) "/join #ubuntu-gr"
[13:28] <zeeble> gmathews: but. apt-cache search shows me stuff like hellanzb and lottanzb. check them out
[13:28] <kure> hi, ive just bought external burner(dvd writer??) and it doesnt get over writing speed 1x, a read something about DMA, coult someone help me pls??
[13:28] <gmathews> zeeble: shweet gonnna try them out quick
[13:28] <manousos> σε ευχαριστώ
[13:29] <LinuxFreakD> ubottu: !gay
[13:29] <Pici> LinuxFreakD: don't do that.
[13:29] <LinuxFreakD> yaaaaa.... right Sure he doesn't
[13:29] <Pici> manousos: Not here, type: /join #ubuntu-gr
[13:29] <zeeble> gmathews: do apt-cache search nzb and try them all out
[13:29] <Haidoura_KV> hi guys, I have ubuntu 8.10 and I want to upgrade it to 9.04, I bought installation ubuntu CD 9.04 .. can I upgrade with an install CD and not an upgrade CD ??
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse > LinuxFreakD
[13:29] <bob_rock> ubottu: !kill ubottu
[13:29] <sipior> Pici: he was thanking you, actually :-)
[13:30] <ncopa> could someone please help me find the build script source for linux-headers-*-generic package?
[13:30] <bob_rock> what is the command can be used for bot
[13:30] <jussi01> !bot | bob_rock
[13:30] <LinuxFreakD> !acidrip
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> bob_rock: depends what you wanna know, she knows much
[13:30] <ncopa> want to look how they make that nice symvers, .config and symlinks
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFreakD: try !info <package name>
[13:30] <LinuxFreakD> thx
[13:31] <LinuxFreakD> !info acidrip
[13:31] <bob_rock> thank anyone
[13:31] <rblst> in my 8.04 the main volume control in gnome does not affect volume, how can i fix this?
[13:31] <LinuxFreakD> !info dvdrip
[13:31] <Pici> sipior: oh :)
[13:31] <gmathews> zeeble: crap these ones don't have a gui ;/
[13:31] <zeeble> there's one for KDE
[13:31] <BlueAidan_work> anyone using pgadmin3 on 9.04?
[13:31] <LinuxFreakD> which do you guys prefer for copying home dvd's to your harddrive... not meant to reburn. In an .avi file.
[13:32] <LinuxFreakD> dvdrip or acidrip
[13:32] <BlueAidan_work> it seems any time I do a find/replace all in the query window in pgadmin3, it just pegs one core and sits there.
[13:32] <zeeble> gmathews: apt-get install klibido
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> LinuxFreakD: i think k3b does it
[13:32] <gmathews> zeeble: libido?? lol.
[13:32] <rblst> in 8.04 the main volume control in gnome does not affect volume, how can i fix this?