[01:24] <tjaalton> yeah, mesa looking good
[02:01] <tjaalton> duh, not quite
[16:39] <tjaalton> bryce: libdrm uploaded, but can't build mesa source since master has diverged too much from rc1
[16:40] <tjaalton> so have to wait for rc2 which should happen RSN
[16:40] <tjaalton> and I did put all the changes in a git branch but it's only local for now
[16:41] <tjaalton> patch 101 seems to be of no use, since the code is ifdef'd away (we don't use GLX_TLS)
[16:41] <tjaalton> so there are no patches left
[16:52] <tjaalton> I'll be gone for the evening, so hope that rc2 is released by tomorrow :)
[16:53] <seb128> mvo, tjaalton: I fixed the compiz slowness
[16:54] <seb128> I had a xorg-driver-fglrx installed which was diverting libgl
[16:54] <mvo> seb128: how?
[16:54] <mvo> aha
[16:54] <mvo> that makes sense!
[16:54] <tjaalton> seb128: heh, didn't think of that :)
[16:55] <seb128> what is weird is that I tried to install fglrx for a while
[16:55] <seb128> but the package is not installable
[16:56] <seb128> I didn't think I had a buggy old version
[18:49] <bryce> today is a HugDay for Xorg bugs
[18:50] <bryce> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080703
[22:17] <bryce> sweet, cworth is working on GEMifying the 965 code
[23:19] <tjaalton> I thought it already was
[23:25] <bryce> heya tjaalton
[23:25] <bryce> tjaalton: btw there's some hefty Xorg HugDay action over on #ubuntu-bugs
[23:25] <bryce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080703
[23:28] <tjaalton> just got back from the bar :P
[23:28] <tjaalton> ie. perfect time to abuse some bugs
[23:28] <bryce> fun :-)
[23:28] <tormod> tjaalton: hi, building mesa: should the swx confs enable glut? I think they didn't before your autoconf build changes...
[23:28] <tjaalton> it's friday here already
[23:29] <tjaalton> tormod: dunno, maybe some other target built them but AFAIK they should be identical
[23:29] <tjaalton> tormod: btw, you were right about gl.pc
[23:30] <tormod> "configure" fails on missing glut dependencies. The old build log has nothing about glut.
[23:31] <tormod> did you run it through pbuilder btw?
[23:31] <tjaalton> bryce: yeah, played some french tarot, and won ~10e. too bad that all the beers cost at least three times more
[23:31] <tjaalton> tormod: not yet
[23:32] <tjaalton> since I can't build a source package out of it
[23:32] <tormod> I am building on a hardy ppa so I might miss something also.
[23:32] <tormod> why not?
[23:32] <tjaalton> deb-exp is basically master, which has diverged from rc1. some files are now symlinks
[23:33] <tjaalton> so dpkg-source barfs
[23:33] <tjaalton> I could just copy the debian dir on top of the tarball though
[23:34] <tjaalton> since the changes in configs/ are irrelevant now
[23:34] <tormod> well it works here, I merge debian-experimental with f.do git
[23:35] <tjaalton> you have generated the tarball from rc1?
[23:35] <tormod> "works" is probably a bit optimistic
[23:36] <tormod> no, I use git. now I understand, you're using the rc1 tarball?
[23:36] <tjaalton> tormod: both. I made the tarball from upstream tarballs, and used that with current git to generate the source package -> fail
[23:37] <tjaalton> some intel files are now symlinks
[23:38] <tormod> yes, you mean you made the tarball from upstream rc1 tarballs, and used that with current deb-exp git?
[23:39] <tormod> if you make an orig.tar.gz from upstrean git, it should work, right?
[23:40] <tormod> tjaalton: see mesa on https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive it failed on amd64 but built lpia and i386
[23:41] <tjaalton> tormod: yes maybe that should work
[23:43] <tjaalton> ok checking the build log
[23:46] <tormod> tjaalton: it says "recompile with -fPIC" but -fPIC was indeed used
[23:47] <tjaalton> tormod: it might be due to the default flags used
[23:47] <tjaalton> seen that with vdr
[23:47] <tjaalton> I have amd64 here, could try to build it locally
[23:48] <tjaalton> ..but it's hardy
[23:48] <tjaalton> oh, so is the ppa
[23:48] <tormod> yes, but with a few updated libraries
[23:49] <tjaalton> only libdrm should matter


[12:08] <NigeyUK> _StarScream,  there should be a bios option to enable / disble the throttling
[12:09] <_StarScream> NigeyUK: i'm on a PPC sorry
[12:09] <_StarScream> should have mentioned that before
[12:09] <_StarScream> ibook g3 800
[12:10] <NigeyUK> ohh
[12:10] <NigeyUK> pass then lol
[12:10] <d3cay^> ugggggggggg
[12:10] <d3cay^> lol
[12:10] <d3cay^> help!!
[12:10] <d3cay^> :P
[12:10] <d3cay^> how the hell do i set a root PW in kubuntu?
[12:11] <tango_> kubuntu has root disabled
[12:11] <tango_> you should only use sudo
[12:11] <d3cay^> i need to install a theme.....
[12:11] <d3cay^> wont let me move the theme folder to the proper folder to install it cause im not root
[12:12] <d3cay^> :/
[12:12] <tango_> (which is a problem with the kubuntu live dvd ... at least it was for me, since I didn't know which was the default user password)
[12:12] <tango_> d3cay^, not even with sudo mv
[12:12] <tango_> ?
[12:12] <d3cay^> sudo mv?
[12:12] <d3cay^> didnt try that
[12:12] <tango_> what did you try?
[12:12] <_chavo> you can also install them in your ~/.kde directory
[12:12] <_chavo> unless you want it for other users
[12:13] <d3cay^> where do i need to drop theme folders to install em?
[12:13] <d3cay^>  /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:13] <d3cay^> thats where im tryin to put it atm
[12:13] <d3cay^> but cant
[12:13] <_chavo> it's a kdm theme?
[12:14] <_chavo> ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/ or system wide put it in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:14] <d3cay^> kde theme
[12:14] <_chavo> ah
[12:15] <d3cay^> /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:15] <d3cay^> tried movin the folder to that^^^^
[12:15] <d3cay^> wont let me
[12:16] <_chavo> kdm is the login manager
[12:16] <d3cay^> how do i procede _chavo ?
[12:17] <_chavo> first of all, let's figure out what kind of theme it is.
[12:17] <d3cay^> ill link ya to it
[12:17] <d3cay^> 1 sec
[12:17] <_chavo> ok
[12:18] <_chavo> Because, KDE has themes, but also the windecos and styles seperately
[12:18] <_chavo> and themes for kdm
[12:19] <d3cay^> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26718
[12:20] <_chavo> ok it's a kdm theme
[12:20] <d3cay^> lol
[12:20] <d3cay^> sry.... my bad
[12:20] <d3cay^> damn n00b's
[12:20] <d3cay^> ;/
[12:20] <_chavo> no problem it can be confusing
[12:21] <_chavo> have you tried sudo to mv the folder to  /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes ?
[12:21] <d3cay^> i just run: sudo
[12:21] <d3cay^> then my PW
[12:22] <_chavo> sudo <command>
[12:22] <d3cay^> then try dragging n dropping the folder their?
[12:22] <_chavo> so -> mv folder /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme
[12:22] <d3cay^> "sudo mv folder /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme"
[12:22] <d3cay^> ?
[12:22] <_chavo> well whatever the folder name is, yes
[12:23] <d3cay^> lemme try
[12:23] <d3cay^> brb
[12:25] <d3cay^> mmm
[12:25] <d3cay^> must be doing something wrong
[12:26] <d3cay^> its on my desktop atm... the folder name is "login-scan-fusion"
[12:26] <d3cay^> what would the command be?
[12:27] <_chavo> d3cay^, http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[12:27] <_chavo> that tells you how to install in your home directory
[12:27] <d3cay^> looking....
[12:28] <d3cay^> does not exist^^^
[12:28] <d3cay^> oops
[12:28] <_chavo> so if it's on your desktop, do this first -> cd ~/Desktop
[12:28] <d3cay^> "/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes"
[12:28] <d3cay^> does not exist^^
[12:29] <_chavo> alright do this first then -> mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:29] <_chavo> that will create all directories as long as they don't exist
[12:29] <d3cay^> sudo?
[12:29] <_chavo> no
[12:30] <d3cay^> k
[12:30] <d3cay^> now...
[12:33] <_chavo> now -> cd ~/Desktop
[12:33] <d3cay^> k
[12:33] <d3cay^> done
[12:34] <_chavo> now -> mv login-scan-fusion ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/
[12:35] <d3cay^> done
[12:36] <Tm_M> moi
[12:37] <NigeyUK> any1 know why ubunto x64 wont enable sse3 on venice core amds ?
[12:38] <_chavo> d3cay^, now -> mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/config/kdm
[12:39] <d3cay^> done
[12:40] <_chavo> then this ->echo "Theme=~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/\"login-scan-fusion\"" > ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[12:40] <_chavo> just copy and paste the command
[12:40] <d3cay^> mehhh, konsole wont ley me paste
[12:40] <d3cay^> :/
[12:40] <d3cay^> 1 min
[12:41] <_chavo> Shift-INS to paste or right click menu
[12:41] <_chavo> in konsole
[12:41] <d3cay^> sweet
[12:41] <d3cay^> done
[12:41] <_chavo> CTRL-C and CTRL-V can't be used because they are reserved for console commands
[12:42] <_chavo> that creates a file called kdmrc and puts that line into it, that line tells kdm to use the them
[12:42] <_chavo> theme
[12:42] <_chavo> hopefully
[12:42] <mircea> hi there!
[12:42] <d3cay^> lol
[12:42] <d3cay^> shall i log out and see?
[12:42] <_chavo> I don't have a default setup here, but that should work
[12:42] <_chavo> yeah go ahead
[12:42] <d3cay^> lets see...
[12:42] <d3cay^> brb
[12:43] <mircea> my dcgui-qt won't display the users file lists :(
[12:50] <mircea> so, is it normal for my dcgui-qt not to be able to read some other users share list?
[12:54] <apokryphos> woo! Root has landed!
[01:03] <guidedspirit> hello
[01:05] <guidedspirit> hello
[01:05] <guidedspirit> i need help
[01:06] <Fenix> greetings I ask for aid to them because I have a problem with my equipment, I am using kubuntu and this me salia to resolutions of 640x400 now changes it with dpkg and when this initiating the grafico surroundings gives an error me
[01:06] <guidedspirit> im using ubuntu and it doesnt recognize my pcmcia port on my laptop :(
[01:06] <Fenix> and it says to me that a problem with dcopserver exists not that he is that
[01:07] <guidedspirit> hi
[01:08] <phazeman> hi
[01:08] <phazeman> can someone please suggest some good looking font for the desktop ?
[01:08] <phazeman> i'm in search of something normal looking but failed so far...
[01:09] <phazeman> narg: you here ? i followed your suggestion and did all the stuf.. i'm on 3.4.2 already :) thanks much !!!
[01:09] <guidedspirit> greek is good
[01:10] <Fenix> kinfo I need aid
[01:10] <phazeman> ahh.. i completely forget... i'm looking for some simple internationalization howto... i need to install 2 more languages in here and make xorg to work with 3 layouts with my keyboard
[01:10] <phazeman> does anybody have any good localization howto ?
[01:12] <mircea_tm> anyone alive? :)
[01:12] <guidedspirit> i am
[01:12] <guidedspirit> i need help with pcmcia port on my laptop
[01:13] <mircea_tm> i bet it's a hardware problem :P
[01:13] <gdarel> is there a good program to convert VOB files?
[01:13] <Bags> I've just installed Pureftpd and Pureadmin, but it reports that pureftpd is not running. How can I start this service and make it run each time the machine is booted?
[01:14] <mircea_tm> Bags: /etc/init.d/pureftpd strart   ... or something
[01:14] <Bags> mircea_tm: Thanks, I'll try that now.
[01:14] <mircea_tm> gdarel: convert vob files to what?
[01:15] <gdarel> mpeg or somehitng that can be edited in Kino
[01:15] <Bags> mircea_tm: Tried that, i get ":No such file or directory"
[01:16] <Bags> mircea_tm: Oh! Ok. There's a hyphen.
[01:16] <mircea_tm> gdarel: try mplayer and mencoder www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:18] <mircea_tm> Bags:ls /etc/init.d/  if it's installed properly you should probably see there a file .. proftpd or something. so after that just executed it
[01:19] <mircea_tm> why i can't read a user share list in dggui-qt ?
[01:20] <Bags> mircea_tm: I typed /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start and it accepted that without complaint, but then I run pureadmin again from within KDE and it still says that it's not running.
[01:20] <mircea_tm> what is not running?
[01:21] <Bags> mircea_tm: Within the PureAdmin console, it reports that PureFTPd is not running.
[01:21] <mircea_tm> with: ps -ef|grep pure  you can check if indeed the process exists in memory
[01:21] <mircea_tm> maybe a config problem is preventing the server from starting properly
[01:23] <Bags> mircea_tm: Just tried logging into it from a client and it is in fact serving and the user settings put in place from wtihin the PureFTPd console are actually working...
[01:23] <guidedspirit> can anyone help me
[01:23] <Bags> mircea_tm: It looks like it's just not reporting it as working from within that console.
[01:23] <guidedspirit> im on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port
[01:24] <Bags> mircea_tm: I think I'll be ok from here.  I'll try to log out and back in again and see if that helps...
[01:24] <mircea_tm> ok
[01:25] <guidedspirit> please
[01:32] <guidedspirit> help
[01:33] <apokryphos> guidedspirit: you're more likely to have luck with questions like that (non-kde-related) in #ubuntu
[01:33] <guidedspirit> but i have kubutu
[01:33] <apokryphos> guidedspirit: kubuntu = ubuntu+kde
[01:34] <guidedspirit> ubuntu = ubuntu +gome
[01:35] <apokryphos> Yes; so, where it's not kde-related, #ubuntu (being the bigger channel and sharing the same base as ubuntu), is, in theory, likely to give better results.
[01:35] <guidedspirit> k
[01:35] <guidedspirit> no one knows there
[01:36] <guidedspirit> do u know what the device name would be for a pcmcia port? so maybe i could use ifup if i new the device
[01:36] <apokryphos> Then either (i) post to the mailing list; (ii) try the forum; (iii) try again in there later. Or a combination of those.
[01:36] <apokryphos> no
[02:23] <arcanistherogue> hey, i am haveing aproblem with my dvd-rw drive
[02:24] <gdarel> Anyone know the best way to convert VOB files to AIV or MOV?
[02:25] <arcanistherogue> i want to burn a cd, but when I am in linux i can't open the drive (i hit the button and the light doesnt flash, doesnt open).  I didnt have anything in it, and it wasnt mounted.  So, I rebooted and got my CD-RW in there fast before GRUB started.  When I got into KDE, it wasnt auto-mounted like it usually does with my DVD-RW, and when i tried to burn a cd with graveman it cant find any media in the drive.  how do i fix this?
[02:30] <gdarel> Anyone know the best way to convert VOB files to Avi or MOV?
[02:36] <gdarel> Anyone know the best way to convert VOB files to Avi or MOV?
[03:31] <ali4728> newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!
[03:40] <narg> does eric3 segfault on startup for anyone else?
[03:43] <lascar> hey guys, i could use a little help
[03:43] <lascar> i'm new to kubuntu
[03:44] <lascar> hell, i'm new to linux
[03:44] <lascar> and i've been trying to install firefox, azureus, kaffeine 0.7, and Flash
[03:44] <lascar> and have been hitting roadblocks all the way
[03:46] <lascar> for instance, i keep getting the following error when i try to install firefox:
[03:46] <lascar> "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:46] <lascar> any takers?
[03:47] <seth_k> how are you trying to install firefox?
[03:47] <lascar> through Shell
[03:47] <lascar> it's a binary
[03:47] <seth_k> OH
[03:47] <seth_k> there's the problem
[03:47] <seth_k> don't install binaries
[03:48] <seth_k> use apt-get / synaptic / kynaptic
[03:48] <lascar> why not?  it's worked before...
[03:48] <lascar> ok
[03:48] <seth_k> Binaries are against the philosophy of a Debian system... package management
[03:48] <seth_k> clean installs and uninstalls
[03:48] <seth_k> "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox" should work
[03:48] <lascar> cool
[03:48] <seth_k> or open kynaptic and search for firefox
[03:49] <seth_k> now azureus isn't available as a package, but there is a pre-compiled binary package, so no compiling necessary
[03:49] <seth_k> just download the tarball, and untar it to your home
[03:49] <lascar> can't find firefox
[03:49] <seth_k> in kynaptic?
[03:50] <lascar> in kynaptic
[03:50] <seth_k> !info mozilla-firefox
[03:50] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[03:50] <seth_k> it's called mozilla-firefox
[03:50] <seth_k> methinks
[03:50] <lascar> nothing
[03:50] <lascar> "linux-headers-386"
[03:50] <lascar> then "multiseat"
[03:50] <lascar> should i run it in shell
[03:51] <lascar> or as a GUI
[03:51] <seth_k> kynaptic is a GUI program
[03:51] <lascar> yeah, doing that
[03:51] <seth_k> um, I don't know why it wouldn't be showing up. It's even in the main section of the archive
[03:51] <seth_k> try running the terminal command "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[03:52] <seth_k> if that doesn't work, we'll peek at your sources list next :)
[03:52] <seth_k> we'll find it one way or another
[03:52] <lascar> ok, we're getting somewhere: Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:52] <lascar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:52] <lascar> is only available from another source
[03:52] <lascar> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[03:53] <seth_k> okay, run this in terminal for me
[03:53] <seth_k> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <seth_k> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:53] <seth_k> and paste the output on that site
[03:54] <lascar> done
[03:54] <seth_k> ah ha :)
[03:54] <seth_k> there's the problem
[03:54] <seth_k> you've only got the cd selected
[03:54] <seth_k> we'll fix you right up
[03:55] <N17R0> seth_k: are u a Kubuntu devel ?
[03:55] <seth_k> terminal command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list
[03:55] <seth_k> N17R0, neg, just a #kubuntu op
[03:55] <seth_k> and Ubuntu member
[03:55] <N17R0> kk
[03:55] <seth_k> lascar, oops, *sources.list
[03:55] <seth_k> same filename as before
[03:55] <lascar> lascar is confused
[03:55] <lascar> sorry
[03:56] <seth_k> sorry
[03:56] <seth_k> this command:
[03:56] <seth_k> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <lascar> ok
[03:57] <lascar> i've got text
[03:57] <seth_k> ok
[03:57] <seth_k> one sec, lascar
[03:57] <lascar> sure thing
[03:59] <seth_k> Okay, I have posted a new pastebin page
[03:59] <seth_k> take the text from that one, delete everything in yours and replace it with mine
[04:00] <seth_k> notice I have just uncommented each line (by removing the #) and also added the KDE updates source
[04:01] <seth_k> lascar, after you do that, save the file and exit kate. Then run the terminal command:
[04:01] <lascar> before i do this, a question:
[04:01] <seth_k> yep
[04:01] <lascar> from which site does apt acquire packages?
[04:01] <lascar> or do i have to download RPM's first?
[04:01] <seth_k> ack
[04:01] <seth_k> RPMs
[04:01] <seth_k> dirty
[04:01] <seth_k> :P
[04:01] <lascar> lol
[04:02] <seth_k> Ubuntu is based on Debian
[04:02] <seth_k> we use .deb packages
[04:02] <seth_k> and apt is going to pull the packages from the Ubuntu Archive
[04:02] <lascar> yeah, i've seen those
[04:02] <seth_k> which is maintained by Ubuntu
[04:02] <seth_k> so after you save your new file: terminal command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:02] <seth_k> that will update your system with all the new packages from the archive, especially KDE 3.4.2 (important)
[04:03] <seth_k> then you will also be able to search for firefox and install it, etc.
[04:03] <lascar> alright!
[04:04] <lascar> should i verify?
[04:04] <seth_k> yes, you can confirm the upgrade
[04:04] <lascar> man i had no idea about those binaries
[04:04] <seth_k> so the file we edited is basically a list of all the "repositories" apt looks at for updated packages. If it finds new ones, you can install them automatically, no mess and no binaries to install manually :)
[04:04] <seth_k> just a few clicks
[04:05] <lascar> seth_k, you've made my day, night, and the rest of the week
[04:05] <seth_k> haha
[04:05] <lascar> thanx a bunch
[04:05] <seth_k> well I'm glad I could help
[04:05] <seth_k> ubuntu is fun
[04:05] <lascar> yeah
[04:05] <seth_k> and we're always here if you need help :)
[04:05] <seth_k> best of luck trying it out
[04:05] <lascar> i doubt i'd switch back to windows
[04:05] <lascar> unless it was to game
[04:05] <seth_k> I only do to run games
[04:05] <seth_k> yep
[04:06] <lascar> ok, so one more time:
[04:06] <seth_k> so is apt downloading packages all right?
[04:06] <lascar> indeed
[04:06] <seth_k> good good
[04:06] <lascar> the file we edited...?
[04:06] <lascar> what was it called?
[04:06] <seth_k> it's the repositories file, and it lives at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <seth_k>  /etc (for configuration files) /apt (apt configuration) /sources.list (list of sources / repositories)
[04:07] <lascar> kinda like a DNS for kubuntu packages?
[04:08] <seth_k> eh, the terminology is off but the idea is right ;)
[04:08] <lascar> lmao
[04:08] <seth_k> you saw there were a bunch of URLs. At each of those URLs is a list of packages you can download
[04:08] <lascar> and how often would i have to update the list?
[04:09] <seth_k> every six months, with the release of a new version of ubuntu
[04:09] <seth_k> the next release is in October
[04:09] <seth_k> and is codenamed "breezy"
[04:09] <seth_k> this release's codename is "hoary"
[04:09] <seth_k> so you would open up that file
[04:09] <seth_k> and change all "hoary" to "breezy"
[04:09] <seth_k> then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:09] <seth_k> and you will be running the newest and greatest version of Ubuntu
[04:09] <lascar> cool
[04:11] <lascar> and flash, kaffeiene, etc are in the release?
[04:11] <lascar> probably
[04:11] <seth_k> indeed
[04:11] <seth_k> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[04:11] <seth_k> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:11] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[04:11] <seth_k> there it is
[04:11] <seth_k> kaffeine should be installed by default iirc
[04:12] <seth_k> but if not, it is indeed in the repos
[04:12] <seth_k> !info kaffeine
[04:12] <ubotu> kaffeine: (versatile media player for KDE 3), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.6-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1130 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB
[04:12] <seth_k> you're right, it's optional
[04:12] <lascar> where's that info coming from?
[04:12] <seth_k>  the Ubuntu bot
[04:12] <lascar> ah
[04:12] <seth_k> you can ask it questions by "/msg ubuto question"
[04:12] <seth_k> s/ubuto/ubotu
[04:13] <seth_k> i can't type tonight, it's late :)
[04:13] <seth_k> so like /msg ubotu firefox
[04:13] <seth_k> will tell you some things about firefox
[04:13] <seth_k> ...except it knows nothing about firefox apparently :P
[04:14] <lascar> heh
[04:14] <N17R0> I am bored, and I found a nice new kernel 2.6.13, I never compiled a kernel before, now I wanna try it :P But will kubuntu run with this new one?
[04:14] <lascar> i've forgotten how to reg with NickServ
[04:14] <lascar> ::sighs::
[04:15] <seth_k>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[04:15] <_static> my kernels generally don't run the first time around. :)
[04:15] <seth_k> N17R0, if you don't grab kernel-source from Ubuntu sources, it's likely you'd have to do a lot of loving to it to get it to work
[04:16] <seth_k> N17R0, there are lots of ubuntu-specific patches in kernel-source
[04:16] <lascar> nothing's happening seth_k; can't i just msg it my username and password?
[04:16] <seth_k> um
[04:16] <seth_k> try /query
[04:16] <seth_k> they were playing with some new software earlier
[04:16] <N17R0> well ok, I first have to read some docs about compiling kernels
[04:17] <lascar> !info kaffeine
[04:17] <seth_k> the syntax is /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[04:17] <ubotu> kaffeine: (versatile media player for KDE 3), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.6-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1130 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB
[04:18] <seth_k> [21:17]  <Tachyon> They turned off private messaging for unregistered users because of spam bots.
[04:18] <seth_k> [21:17]  <Tachyon> I don't know if it's back on or not.
[04:18] <seth_k> that's why you can't talk to nickserv, lascar
[04:18] <seth_k> methinks
[04:20] <seth_k> right, anything I can help you with before I change locos, lascar? otherwise i'll be back in 15 minutes
[04:20] <lascar> yeah
[04:20] <lascar> i wanted to view the difference between an updated package and one i was using now
[04:21] <lascar> and now i have all this information
[04:21] <lascar> and don't know how to exit from it and return to the updating
[04:21] <seth_k> q
[04:21] <lascar> LMAO
[04:21] <lascar> rofl
[04:21] <seth_k> what is going on when it shows you the difference, is it's diffing into a program called "less"
[04:21] <seth_k> less responds to q for quit, so you use that
[04:21] <lascar> thanks seth_k, i know i must look like a complete fool
[04:22] <seth_k> no worries, we were all there once
[04:22] <seth_k> that's why i enjoy tech support
[04:22] <seth_k> because I see myself in others
[04:22] <seth_k> and people helped me when I was new, so now I can help others and return the favor
[04:22] <seth_k> and that's what ubuntu is all about :)
[04:22] <lascar> good on ya
[04:22] <seth_k> anyways, I'm locoswapping. back in 15
[04:22] <lascar> one more thing!
[04:22] <seth_k> haha
[04:22] <seth_k> yep :)
[04:22] <lascar> just reboot right?
[04:23] <seth_k> you don't even need to
[04:23] <lascar> sure?
[04:23] <seth_k> just save your work and log out
[04:23] <seth_k> then log back in
[04:23] <lascar> alright then
[04:23] <seth_k> the ONLY time you *need* to reboot is for kernel upgrades :)
[04:23] <seth_k> everything else is "hot-swappable", so to speak
[04:23] <lascar> gotcha.
[04:23] <seth_k> none of this Windows stuff, "you must restart to update files that were in use"
[04:23] <lascar> lol, too tru
[04:23] <lascar> i'll send you on your way
[04:24] <lascar> leave quickly before i think of anything else
[04:24] <seth_k> haha i'll be back in a bit if you think of antyhing more
[04:24] <seth_k> cheers
[04:24] <lascar> see you in a few
[04:26] <lascar> /disconnect
[04:36] <fredrik> hi have just installed sql-ledger, gnucash and bittornado with kynaptic but now i don't know where to start any of them how do i do? *NEWBIE*
[04:40] <pentax> uhh no me funciona al usar el     sudo  apt-get install ** el pprograma
[04:40] <pentax> qu e sera
[04:40] <pentax> les dejo el mensaje
[04:41] <pentax> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/349739
[05:03] <lascar> !azureus
[05:03] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[05:11] <lascar> seth_k, would you mind telling me the path to that release update file again?
[05:11] <pentax>  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/349739
[05:11] <pentax> help me
[05:12] <pentax> not install programs
[05:16] <seth_k> lascar, /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[05:17] <lascar> thanx seth_k
[05:18] <pentax> ok  but  not is this mensagge  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/349739
[05:20] <pentax> the source list  is very update
[05:28] <lascar> seth_k, what disk partitioning utitlity would you recommend for linux?
[05:28] <lascar> i intend to dual-boot
[05:29] <_static> i noticed this project on osnews today. never tried it. looks neat, though.  http://partitionlogic.org.uk/
[05:32] <lascar> _static: thanx for the link, though i can't tell if it supports partition resizing from just the screenshots
[05:33] <lascar> ah, n/m
[05:33] <lascar> read the rest of descrip
[05:34] <_static> it says it doesnt support filesystem resizing in the about section :\
[05:34] <_static> poo
[05:34] <lascar> i'll keep a lookout for future releases
[05:35] <lascar> it sounds like a good alternative to PM
[05:37] <seth_k> lascar, gparted
[05:42] <lascar> ?
[05:42] <lascar> oh ok
[05:51] <lascar> is the Linux GTK release of Azureus the right one to download?
[05:54] <seth_k> yes
[05:55] <seth_k> then untar it to your home
[05:58] <narg> Azureus requires java, no? Anyone found an easy way to install java/
[05:59] <narg> I never could get it working right
[05:59] <lascar> same
[05:59] <lascar> i got it installed
[05:59] <lascar> but it was always in home dir
[05:59] <lascar> and i could never set the CLASSPATH
[06:04] <seth_k> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:22] <frogtone25> i have a problem
[06:22] <frogtone25> im trying to change my fstab file
[06:22] <frogtone25> and i dont know what to do
[06:23] <frogtone25> it wont let me save my changes
[06:24] <kalenedrael> frogtone25, you have to be root
[06:24] <frogtone25> i am root
[06:24] <frogtone25> what else do i do
[06:24] <kalenedrael> make sure the file is writeable
[06:24] <kalenedrael> chmod +w
[06:24] <kalenedrael> chmod +w /etc/fstab
[06:24] <frogtone25> ok
[06:25] <douglas> I'm trying to compile ogre3d and I found a guide for ubuntu/kubuntu, but now I'm to the point where I'm running ./configure and it keeps giving me this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ksmu1H85.html ... Can someone help, I don't know what they mean?
[06:25] <frogtone25> still wont let me save it
[06:25] <narg> you on a writable file system?
[06:25] <seth_k> frogtone25, you need autotools-dev and build-essential
[06:26] <seth_k> er, douglas, sorry
[06:26] <frogtone25> ok
[06:26] <douglas> k
[06:26] <lascar> and i still can't java to work
[06:26] <narg> lascar: Hrm, I installed the package, and it works for me now :)
[06:26] <douglas> seth_k: they are both already installed.
[06:27] <lascar> did you download the rpm?
[06:27] <lascar> narg
[06:27] <seth_k> douglas, how about automake1.9 and autoconf
[06:29] <lascar> narg: what did you do?
[06:29] <douglas> seth_k: well, automake1.7
[06:29] <seth_k> douglas, good enough
[06:29] <seth_k> hmmmm
[06:29] <douglas> I've done this before, but I can't remember the url in which the tutorial was that I followed. It had some path thing I had to do and that made it work, but now I can't find it.
[06:32] <frogtone25> ok i got autotools
[06:33] <frogtone25> what do i do know
[06:33] <frogtone25> what do i do now
[06:33] <seth_k> frogtone25, that message was meant for douglas, as my last line said, sorry :(
[06:34] <frogtone25> ok
[06:35] <frogtone25> well i got autotools and build essential
[06:35] <lascar> brb
[06:35] <frogtone25> how do i make this file let me save its changes
[06:36] <frogtone25> ok how do i enable dvd playing on here
[06:36] <frogtone25> i know theres a command i put into terminal
[06:36] <frogtone25> but i dont know what it is
[06:36] <_static> hmm
[06:37] <frogtone25> it turns the dvd on and off
[06:37] <frogtone25> with 1's and 0's
[06:37] <_static> well, i remember some command that downloaded decss and installed it.
[06:38] <frogtone25> oh that apt-get install libdvdcss
[06:38] <frogtone25> i know that one
[06:38] <_static> mplayer dvd://1 doesn't work?
[06:39] <frogtone25> well im trying to burn a dvd on here and it wont let me
[06:39] <frogtone25> and the dvd is blank and formatted
[06:39] <_static> dunno anything about burning dvds. what's the error?
[06:40] <frogtone25> its says that i dont have an end line on my fstab file
[06:40] <frogtone25> and that file handles my drives
[06:41] <lascar> woo-hoo!  i got it!
[06:41] <lascar> i'll see you guys later
[06:41] <seth_k> :D
[06:41] <lascar> and thanx again!
[06:41] <seth_k> bye lascar
[06:42] <frogtone25> all i want to do is get into my /etc/fstab file, delete a line, and save it
[06:42] <frogtone25> how do i do this
[06:42] <frogtone25> i am root right now
[06:43] <stoeptegel> how do i get my harddisk non hidden in livecd?
[06:43] <CellarDoor> hey folks !
[06:43] <_static> did the command involve editing the /etc/fstab file?
[06:43] <CellarDoor> translucency is working !
[06:43] <CellarDoor> pwetty !
[06:43] <frogtone25> what command static
[06:43] <frogtone25> am i susposed to put a command down
[06:44] <_static> http://togaware.com/linux/survivor/DVD_Writer.shtml
[06:44] <_static> is that helpful?
[06:44] <_static> i don't know the answer. just guessing
[06:44] <frogtone25> ill try this
[06:44] <frogtone25> let you know if it helps
[06:45] <_static> erm.. well.. don't break anything.. :\
[06:46] <frogtone25> i wont
[06:46] <frogtone25> maybe
[06:46] <CellarDoor> ooh KDE's new translucency is MacPretty
[06:47] <CellarDoor> baghira is giving me the pips though
[06:47] <frogtone25> static, that wont work
[06:48] <frogtone25> i dont have a sony dvd burner for one thing
[06:48] <frogtone25> and i use dvd+rw
[06:48] <frogtone25> and i also use k3b
[06:48] <frogtone25> i just want to enable my dvd drive
[06:48] <frogtone25> thats all
[06:49] <_frank> frogtone25: maybe the problem is related to the fact that you use a rw. try a dvd+r or dvd-r
[06:49] <_static> i don't have a dvd recorder. i was just wondering if the page reminded you of the command you needed.
[06:53] <frogtone25> hey i got it
[06:54] <frogtone25> it was hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[06:54] <frogtone25> as root
[06:56] <CellarDoor> ah yes
[06:56] <CellarDoor> stops dvd jerkiness
[06:58] <CellarDoor> hey has anyone else got KDE's translucenty features going ?
[08:26] <dell500> how do I get a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7000) to work?
[08:36] <pentax> zzzzzzzzzz
[08:36] <bjv> i dont think raid is enabled in my kernel, is there a good howto out there?
[08:47] <CellarDoor> hi all
[08:49] <CellarDoor> someone was trying to help me get translucency going the other day... Its working now
[08:49] <CellarDoor> was my bad
[08:50] <CellarDoor> I said I restarted X but I didn't I just logged out of KDE... silly me :P
[10:00] <e-club> hgai
[10:11] <jeh> does kubuntu have an official release schedule?
[10:11] <e-club> jj
[10:11] <e-club> #jakarta
[10:12] <e-club> hh
[10:13] <e-club> gw kaga ngerti pake php
[10:13] <e-club> rese
[10:14] <Chousuke> jeh: yes.
[10:14] <Chousuke> e-club: English, please.
[10:14] <jeh> Chousuke: does it depend on ubuntu's release schedule? ie ubuntu + some time?
[10:15] <e-club> gw kaga tau
[10:15] <e-club> ngedate
[10:23] <jeh> probably follows this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[10:52] <badbear> hi,
[10:52] <badbear> a question
[10:52] <badbear> i just download the latest firefox
[10:52] <badbear> i convert it to deb, install it
[10:53] <badbear> but it doesn't appear anywhere
[10:53] <badbear> not in the menu, not the executable in /usr/bin
[10:53] <badbear> what could happen?
[11:38] <ookii> hey i'm having a problem with transcode not being able to find lame even though i just installed it, can anyone help me out?
[11:42] <vbrustmeier> hi, have some problems to install the sound server on a acer extensa 501T
[11:43] <vbrustmeier> hello?
[11:44] <vbrustmeier> is anyone online?
[11:56] <m0ns00n> YESH!
[11:56] <m0ns00n> :-D
[11:57] <vbrustmeier> hello have some problems with the sound server
[11:58] <vbrustmeier> can you help me?
[01:19] <ekimus> hi, anybody knows wether it's necessary to have linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 inside the cloop image of the live cd?
[01:29] <dazjorz> Hey uhm
[01:29] <dazjorz> make: *** No rule to make target `libphp5.a', needed by `thttpd'.  Stop.
[01:30] <jeh> dazjorz: maybe you need some -dev package?
[01:30] <jeh> for php
[01:30] <dazjorz> I've got PHP sources. I just compiled right before compiling this.
[01:35] <_stef> hello all :-)
[01:35] <Sho_> Hm, is there any particular reason for the absence of KDE 3.4.2 updates for PowerPC or just a lack of contributers?
[01:35] <_stef> I want to know, how can I do a programm-link for all users
[01:36] <_stef> I mean I installed a programm and want to set a lin to all desktop
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> sho_ it's not part of Kubuntu afaik
[01:37] <_stef> maybe the correct word is to set a link globaly -> for all users
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> _stef: does the link appear for any users?
[01:37] <Sho_> Kamping_Kaiser: Well, it's advertised on kubuntu.org ... http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
[01:37] <_stef> Kamping_Kaiser, yes  right I mean this
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> _stef: but do any users have the link? or no one?
[01:38] <_stef> all users should have the link
[01:38] <_stef> I want to create a link for all users on the desktop
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> that doesnt answer my question _stef
[01:39] <_stef> in the moment noone
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sho_ have you added the repostires?
[01:39] <Sho_> Kamping_Kaiser: Sure. No PowerPC binaries, however: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-powerpc/
[01:40] <Sho_> Kamping_Kaiser: The point is, if the reason is a lack of contributors, I could theoretically make some on my iBook G4 ...
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok. then it's probably because they don't have build systems. there is also no offical ppc group
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's all contributed adhoc
[01:47] <ekimus> _stef: /usr/share/applnk/ (documentation on freedesktop.org)
[01:47] <vbrustmeier> hi there, does anyone know how to get the sound server working on an acer extensa 501T?
[01:47] <dazjorz> where did Stormchaser go ?!
[01:47] <dazjorz> Oops
[01:47] <dazjorz> wrong channel
[01:48] <nikkia> afternoon apokryphos
[01:50] <_stef> ekimus, okay thanks
[01:54] <Phantom^^> cam someone help me i'm trying to install java thingy to use azureus
[01:56] <dazjorz> Phantom^^:
[01:56] <dazjorz> !java
[01:56] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:57] <NigeyUK> java installation was a pain for me :S
[01:58] <buz> why does my amarok crash every 30min
[01:58] <buz> or sooner, even
[01:59] <NigeyUK> mp3 playing ?
[01:59] <buz> yes
[02:00] <buz> especially when switching between tracks
[02:00] <NigeyUK> use xmms :)
[02:01] <buz> but amarok has much better collection features ;)
[02:01] <NigeyUK> hmm, could check if theres an update for it
[02:01] <buz> there is at least a dev version thats one minor release further
[02:01] <buz> kubuntu has 1.2.3 whereas theres dev on 1.3
[02:01] <NigeyUK> try that, cant do any harm
[02:02] <buz> no time right now ;)
[02:02] <buz> will do in the evening
[02:04] <NigeyUK> :)
[02:05] <nikkia> there we go!
[02:05] <NigeyUK> MSDN Subscribers got a surprise today! The WinFS (Windows File System) Beta 1 was made available to MSDN Subscribers, today.
[02:05] <NigeyUK> oh joy
[02:05] <nikkia> i've been trying to remember how to play a piano piece i wrote, for the last 3 hours :P
[02:06] <buz> yeah i'd surely us a MS BETA filesystem
[02:06] <buz> way to lose all your data
[02:06] <NigeyUK> haha my thoughts exactly
[02:07] <nikkia> buz, is it actually a filesystem, or just a metadata system on top of NTFS ?
[02:07] <nikkia> my belief was that it is the latter
[02:07] <buz> mostly another layer
[02:07] <buz> not entirely sure though
[02:07] <buz> i think it partly does away with tree hierarchy
[02:07] <buz> nothing i would want to use no matter what ;)
[02:08] <buz> if i want any new fs, it would be dragonfly's forward/backward undo stuff
[02:08] <nikkia> actually, i'll be glad when the filesystem heirarchy is hidden
[02:08] <nikkia> buz, you can easily implement a versioning filesystem on top of a winfs-like filesystem though
[02:08] <jeh> WinFS is not a filesystem, it's "Windows Future Storage", and builds on top of NTFS
[02:08] <NigeyUK> eugh
[02:08] <buz> thats just marketing
[02:09] <buz> it's essentially ntfs plus meta data
[02:09] <jeh> it uses NTFS with a middle layer that is a database
[02:09] <buz> nikkia: you could, dragonfly does ;)
[02:09] <buz> well sort of
[02:18] <dell500> how do I get a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7000) to work?
[02:24] <apokryphos> nikkia: good afternoon =)
[02:24] <nikkia> apokryphos: sit still, damn you
[02:24] <nikkia> rats!
[02:25] <apokryphos> Mwuaha. Sister's complications... "just have to check one more thing"
[02:25] <nikkia> my mr kipling's exceedingly good apple pie just suffered structural failure :(
[02:25] <apokryphos> impossible
[02:25] <apokryphos> they're exceedingly good
[02:25] <nikkia> the lid came off when i tried to pry it from the foil thing :(
[02:26] <apokryphos> nikkia: I just hope you can sleep at night
[02:26] <nikkia> apokryphos: its unlikely - my ghost has tracked me down :/
[02:27] <apokryphos> it's my shadows that scares me more
[02:28] <apokryphos> latest dot article :D http://dot.kde.org/1125341686/ -- links to talks on plans for multimedia framework, and how it'll develop
[02:30] <stoeptegel> i have installed kubuntu and wanna update latest packages, but sudo doesn't work. What to do?
[02:31] <apokryphos> stoeptegel: sudo "doesn't work"?
[02:32] <stoeptegel> sort of yeah, it wants my passwd but haven't specified one yet
[02:32] <apokryphos> stoeptegel: sudo is your user pass
[02:33] <stoeptegel> wow, kidding right?
[02:33] <stoeptegel> how could i change that
[02:33] <apokryphos> No; sudo is "you" with root privileges
[02:34] <stoeptegel> for that command only, i know that. But i dunno the passwrd because the installer haven't asked me one
[02:35] <stoeptegel> so what to tell the funny guy? :D
[02:35] <apokryphos> The installer asks for a user pass
[02:35] <apokryphos> sudo uses your user pass
[02:36] <stoeptegel> ah that sounds logical, thnx apokryphos :-)
[03:43] <ManLord> Woohoo! Opera software celebrates 10 Years and is giving away FREE registration codes for all platforms(only for limited hours)! http://my.opera.com/community/party/
[03:44] <amu> *lol* who cares about opera
[03:44] <apokryphos> Me :D
[03:44] <apokryphos> much better than firefox 8)
[03:44] <nikkia> apokryphos: i thought you were a konq diehard :P
[03:45] <amu> hehe, software its like sex, if its free its better!
[03:45] <apokryphos> nikkia: I am, but it doesn't mean I've mucked up my other priorities :P
[03:45] <apokryphos> amu: best things in life are free =)
[03:46] <amu> apokryphos: well, free == sourcecode, no source no way
[03:47] <apokryphos> heh
[03:47] <apokryphos> nikkia: what's "Linux Sparc"?
[03:47] <nikkia> apokryphos: probably a build of linux for the Sparc CPU :P
[03:47] <nikkia> s/CPU/CPU family/
[03:48] <nikkia> altho i have a feeling 'Sparc' in the linux kernel context pretty much only refers to the sun4m architecture
[03:48] <apokryphos> I don't have that, I don't have Linux Intel, and I don't have Linux PowerPC... which is all the Linux options. Odd.
[03:48] <nikkia> apokryphos: what DO you have then ? :)
[03:48] <apokryphos> an Athlon
[03:48] <nikkia> (/me guesses you DO have linux intel)
[03:49] <apokryphos> My idea of Intel must be mucked up
[03:49] <nikkia> apokryphos: athlon = intel, for the purposes of architecture names
[03:49] <apokryphos> :-O
[03:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: the athlon is an implementation of the *intel* 80x86 architecture, is it not ?
[03:50] <buz> not entirely
[03:50] <buz> 3dnow for one is an amd development
[03:50] <buz> at the core it is though
[03:50] <nikkia> buz, an implementation can be a superset
[03:50] <buz> embrace and extend yes
[03:51] <nikkia> buz, its not essential to use 3dnow to use the athlon instruction set :)
[03:51] <apokryphos> I thought amd's were just intel compatible, not intels themselves
[03:51] <buz> intel itself is only more compatible if you want
[03:51] <buz> neither one actually has x86 in its very core
[03:52] <nikkia> apokryphos: you're confusing 'intel' as an architecture name with 'intel' the company
[03:53] <buz> whereas i claim there is no intel architecture
[03:53] <buz> intel sells a whole bunch of different architectures
[03:53] <buz> makes no sense to call one of them intel
[03:53] <nikkia> buz, i'd agree, its probably a bad way, but i don't work for opera :P
[03:53] <buz> i'd simply write PC or some such there
[03:54] <nikkia> buz, no, IMO, PC is worse than 'intel' :)
[03:55] <nikkia> 'x86' is probably the best compromise between accuracy and 'what the masses know'
[03:56] <buz> yeah
[03:56] <buz> but a linux user probably knows x86
[03:56] <nikkia> buz, a linux user would likely assume 'intel' == x86, too
[03:56] <buz> true
[03:57] <apokryphos> File Associations says KPacage 8)
[04:02] <ilba7r> is there a command to tell me the users that are connected at the moment to my pc
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> who
[04:04] <ilba7r> thanx
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> or w
[04:05] <ilba7r> ok it say that i am logged in twice how is that posible
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> one GUI login and the terminal
[04:06] <ilba7r> will have to figure that out by myself thanx again kamping_Kaiser
[04:06] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: that shouldn't give two
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: it does
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends on the terminal actualy, there was a big debate about it in the Ubuntu/Kubuntu mailing lists
[04:07] <apokryphos> g-t and ateerm seem to do it only
[04:08] <ilba7r> thanx for you help again kamping_kaiser take care all
[04:10] <nikkia> if you use 'w' instead of 'who' you might want to add the -f flag, to tell it to show you where network connections are connected from
[04:12] <Pie-maker> anyone know how to get the application launcher applet onto the kicker?
[04:15] <apokryphos> Pie-maker: the kmenu, or quick-launch application buttons?
[04:16] <Pie-maker> I want a command line inserted into a panel. right now, I have the run command applet in a panel but that isn't enough
[04:17] <Pie-maker> I did some research and found there is an applet called application launcher.
[04:17] <Pie-maker> Searching 100 sections inside google hasn't found where I can install the "application launcher" applet
[04:19] <apokryphos> I'm pretty sure application launcher is the run command applet
[04:19] <apokryphos> I think Fedora calls it that
[04:19] <apokryphos> and wait, you want a command line in Kicker with all the visible output?
[04:20] <nikkia> wow, a 1-2 line 30 column wide command line, that'll be 'useful'
[04:20] <douglas> I'm trying to run ./configure on ogre3d cvs, and I can't seem to figure out what these errors mean... http://rafb.net/paste/results/XZk0f332.html ?
[04:20] <buz> the current applet sucks badl
[04:20] <buz> y
[04:20] <Pie-maker> I use it for starting up folders without having to open up run, a terminal, or surfing though konqueror
[04:20] <buz> mine would be more like 120char wide
[04:21] <apokryphos> Pie-maker: why can't run command do that?
[04:21] <Pie-maker> I don't really care about the output for the thing.
[04:21] <buz> proper tab completion would be a start
[04:21] <Pie-maker> It doesn't do the alias command and a couple of others
[04:21] <phazeman_> narg: here ?
[04:31] <Pie-maker> after some more research, I have concluded that the run command is indeed the "application launcher" applet. fyi.
[04:31] <Pie-maker> *run command applet
[04:53] <Blissex> there are two run-command stuff: one is done by KDesktop and is a pop up, the other is done by the Kicker and runs in it.
[04:54] <Blissex> the Kicker one can be embedded in it by right clicking on the Kicker panel, selecting 'Add to panel:Applet:Run command'
[05:01] <baoji> I'm on dialup and pay by the minute so downloading large files costs me quite a bit. If I request a ubuntu CD, will that have enough for me to install kubuntu?
[05:03] <apokryphos> baoji: unfortunately Ubuntu doesn't provide shipit for Kubuntu
[05:03] <apokryphos> I wonder if it's possible to create a petition for that :D
[05:03] <baoji> ah.
[05:03] <baoji> so how do I download kubuntu then?
[05:04] <apokryphos> baoji: you'd have to download the ISO from the website
[05:05] <baoji> Hoary is the latest then?
[05:06] <apokryphos> latest stable, yes. Breezy is out in October
[05:06] <baoji> So the Breezy DVD will have everything I might want?
[05:07] <apokryphos> Ubuntu Breezy = Ubuntu Live+Install CD
[05:07] <apokryphos> Ubuntu Breezy DVD that is
[05:08] <nikkia> apokryphos: he could order a ubuntu cd/dvd and then install kubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <nikkia> it'd probably be a smaller amount of downloading than the CD
[05:08] <apokryphos> yes, was just thinking that
[05:10] <baoji> hm.
[05:12] <Phazeman> can someone please point me on some goot localization howto ?
[05:12] <Phazeman> i need to install russian and a phonetic keyboard layout
[05:18] <jjesse> morning :)
[05:20] <baoji> Well, I've decided to go with the Kubuntu DVD. Will that have--for example--a partitioner to enable me to install it side by side a windows install?
[05:21] <apokryphos> baoji: the Kubuntu DVD you'd need to download
[05:22] <lascar> i have no problem increasing/decreasing text size in firefox
[05:22] <apokryphos> sounds like the ultimate nightmare if you have only a modem
[05:22] <baoji> The website claims that Kubuntu shop has been opened with DVD3s.
[05:22] <sproingie> installing any large OS like linux is a nightmare over a modem
[05:22] <lascar> but i can't make the tiny text in the browser itself (menu, toolbar, etc) any bigger
[05:22] <baoji> (pardon for the 3--that was the cat)
[05:22] <lascar> can anybody help me?
[05:23] <apokryphos> baoji: oh, you can purchase them, sure.
[05:23] <apokryphos> lascar: install the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and you should be able to alter fonts and styles for GTK programs under KDE
[05:23] <baoji> and will those have what I need to partition a hard drive already running windows?
[05:23] <baoji> I remember a long while ago one used to use 'fips'
[05:24] <sproingie> the partition editor in the install cd can resize partitions
[05:24] <baoji> how about ntfs?
[05:24] <apokryphos> baoji: it claims that it can, yes.
[05:24] <lascar> wait, which partition editor?
[05:24] <sproingie> it's really buried.  me, i'd burn a rescue cd with qtparted on it
[05:24] <apokryphos> !ntfs
[05:24] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[05:24] <sproingie> qtparted is a lot easier to use than the one that comes with the installer
[05:24] <apokryphos> hm, that's not the right factoid..
[05:24] <baoji> right. and qtparted can deal with ntfs?
[05:24] <sproingie> yes
[05:25] <sproingie> you don't even have to defragment
[05:25] <apokryphos> I think it comes with the Kubuntu DVD (the live DVD part)
[05:25] <baoji> that's brilliant
[05:25] <apokryphos> hm, it's in Universe. Not sure.
[05:25] <apokryphos> sproingie: amu is quite amazing ;-)
[05:26] <baoji> how would I find out what's on the kubuntu dvd?
[05:26] <lascar> !gparted
[05:26] <ubotu> lascar: What?
[05:26] <sproingie> i burned a separate rescue cd
[05:26] <sproingie> i think the distribution itself was called "rescue cd" or somesuch
[05:27] <sproingie> came with qtparted and other goodies
[05:27] <baoji> sproingie: hm. that is less attractive if I have to download it, sadly.
[05:27] <sproingie> baoji: someone mentioned it's also on the livecd so you can do it that way.  of course you can't install off the livecd, so you'd actually be grabbing much more than you need
[05:27] <apokryphos> hm, it doesn't seem to
[05:27] <apokryphos> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/breezy-dvd-i386.list
[05:28] <sproingie> breezy's at a stable enough point that we're sending out CD's of it now?
[05:28] <apokryphos> sproingie: they're not, nope.
[05:29] <apokryphos> reasonably stable at the moment
[05:29] <sproingie> methinks i'll stick with hoary for a while yet
[05:29] <apokryphos> fixed up quite quickly in the last few weeks
[05:29] <baoji> well.
[05:29] <sproingie> normally i'm a debian sid person, but breezy seems more like the experimental branch
[05:29] <apokryphos> baoji: do you have a knoppix or other such live cd there?
[05:30] <baoji> I should get offline now. But thanks very much for your help. I'll get the Kubuntu live/install DVD and try my luck with the CLI parted
[05:30] <lascar> apokryphos: i installed the package but have yet to notice a difference
[05:30] <sproingie> i bet if there's a local LUG you can call, they'll be happy to mail you a livecd of just about anything
[05:31] <apokryphos> lascar: you have to restart the GTK app (firefox here), and perhaps KDE too
[05:31] <baoji> Well, I'll see if there's one in the Hull area.
[05:31] <baoji> Thanks again!
[05:31] <sproingie> they probably have a stack of knoppix cd's or somesuch
[05:31] <lascar> ok, will do
[05:31] <nikkia> baoji: iirc, there is
[05:31] <lascar> back in a few
[05:31] <baoji> nikkia: will check out then
[05:31] <apokryphos> live CD really should have qtparted at the very least
[05:31] <apokryphos> silly that they don't :P
[05:32] <baoji> bye
[05:32] <sproingie> it should be a boot option really
[05:32] <nikkia> baoji: there is a hull LUG and a beverly LUG (if thats closer)
[05:32] <sproingie> just give lots of options from the boot menu
[05:32] <nikkia> beverley even :)
[05:33] <deacon> Greetings all!
[05:34] <deacon> Can anyone here assist with some minor hardware issues I'm having?
[05:35] <deacon> hello?
[05:36] <deacon> is everyone AFK?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> deacon: just ask your question
[05:37] <deacon> I just need a bit of help adjusting the sensitivity on my Synaptics touch pad.  that's all.
[05:38] <thoreauputic> deacon: I don't know about syanaptics touchpads - if someone does I'm sure they will answer you
[05:38] <lascar> apokryphos: still nothing
[05:38] <apokryphos> lascar: did you alter the font-size for gtk apps from kcontrol?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> deacon: you might try #ubuntu as well - there are more people there
[05:39] <lascar> yes
[05:39] <apokryphos> nikkia: http://www.pryan.org/mozilla/firefox/hendikins/firefox-qt/  one that actually runs. Quite buggy on some parts, though ;-)
[05:39] <apokryphos> lascar: does making them smaller there not adjust it for your firefox?
[05:40] <lascar> no, nor does increasing the font size
[05:40] <thoreauputic> deacon waited for less than six minutes... amazing how impatient some people are
[05:40] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: tell me the answer NOW.
[05:41] <apokryphos> or else...or else I'll flood!
[05:41] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: heh - or start writing in ALL CAPS with EXCLAMATIONS !!!
[05:41] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[05:42] <apokryphos> that'll show them that I mean business
[05:42] <thoreauputic> .... then end with "what a lame channel! No one knoews anything!"
[05:43] <nikkia> lascar: you might have enabled firefox's option to limit minimum font size
[05:43] <nikkia> i found that tends to screw up the gtk-qt bridge
[05:43] <lascar> nikkia: nevermind! it adjusted
[05:44] <lascar> text within the browser is still tiny, but that's easily adjusted
[05:44] <lascar> thanx you two
[05:45] <lascar> and now i bid the all au revoir
[05:46] <lascar> *thee
[05:47] <phazeman> i have a very stupid question (but i think it's a relevant one for a new ubuntu/kubuntu users)
[05:48] <phazeman> when i add users to the system, do they all get the same permissions as i do ? means they can do sudo ?
[05:48] <nikkia> no
[05:48] <phazeman> or only the first administrative acount has it ?
[05:48] <phazeman> nikkia: can you please xplain ?
[05:48] <nikkia> all members of the group 'admin' have sudo permission
[05:48] <nikkia> if the new users are added to the group admin then they will
[05:48] <phazeman> oh
[05:48] <phazeman> thank god
[05:49] <phazeman> thanks for that
[05:49] <angasule> where can I get a list of supported hardware? I've been searching in the website, wiki, etc, and no luck
[05:50] <pussfeller> anyone found a usb2 pci card that works will ubuntu or linux
[05:50] <nikkia> that is, of course, the default sudo behaviour
[05:51] <phazeman>  http://mishka.site.co.il/Files/screen_ubuntu.jpg <- a screeny i've done 5 minutes ago on a live CD. so now another stupid question. is there a way to store my current user settings (home) to any local HD or USB drive or whatever so i won't loose all the thins i've done so far ? or it's a dream i can forget of ?
[05:51] <nikkia> you're quite free to change it to allow specific users to sudo, even to only sudo specific apps, if you so wish
[05:52] <phazeman> nikkia: thanks for that quick answer... i was really scared when i reallized i didn't know the answer for that question...
[05:52] <nikkia> phazeman: the only thing i can think of, is to tar up the home directory and put it somewhere you can restore it from when you install
[05:52] <nikkia> if you only have ntfs partitions on your system, you'll need to find somewhere else to put it :/
[05:52] <phazeman> nikkia: yeah.. thought about it, but for some weird reason i can't write it over the net.. it looks like it copy the fiels but when i look from another machine it's not there
[05:53] <nikkia> phazeman: does the livecd include the smbclient command ?
[05:53] <nikkia> smbclient tends to be easier to get working for a simple thing, in my experience
[05:56] <phazeman> nikkia: i will look at it now
[05:56] <phazeman> ok i found the problem.. fixed :)
[05:57] <phazeman> the only thing left for me to setup on this install is to figure out how to setup the localization (i have to install russian and set up the x.org keyboard layout)
[06:08] <tapanim> what is blocking my ssh when i try to get in my computer? always "ssh: connect to host *** port 22: Connection refused
[06:08] <tapanim> ?
[06:08] <othernoob> free Opera today :) http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml
[06:08] <morrow> tapanim: maybe a not running openssh-server.
[06:08] <tapanim> yes i have because it's working in lan... :/
[06:09] <apokryphos> othernoob: the IRC party isn't a great party, really ;-)
[06:09] <morrow> tapanim: nat issue?
[06:09] <apokryphos> but free reg -> very nice. :)
[06:09] <tapanim> yes...
[06:09] <othernoob> apokryphos: i wouldn't know about the party ;) but i love the free reg ;)
[06:11] <tapanim> morrow: but my dsl won't work without nat...some bug :/
[06:12] <morrow> well configure a port forwarding on the nat router
[06:13] <morrow> if you want external people login via ssh into your LAN station
[06:13] <tapanim> yes
[06:14] <tapanim> have you any experience about zyxel? and those nat?
[06:15] <lascar> that was quick
[06:17] <lascar> does anyone know how to install the mplayer package?  I downloaded it as an RPM and used alien to convert it to deb
[06:17] <lascar> and still can't get it to run
[06:18] <apokryphos> no need to do all that; it's in Multiverse
[06:18] <jjesse> is there a reason you did that?
[06:19] <apokryphos> did what exactly?
[06:19] <lascar> multiverse = kpackage?
[06:20] <apokryphos> ?
[06:20] <apokryphos> if you enable the multiverse repository in /etc/apt/sources.list then you can apt-get for mplayer
[06:21] <lascar> i've got universe, but there's no entry for multiverse
[06:22] <apokryphos> add it, then
[06:22] <apokryphos> just put the word "multiverse" in the places where "universe" is
[06:23] <lascar> does multiverse include the universe repository?
[06:23] <apokryphos> no
[06:23] <apokryphos> !modules
[06:23] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, apokryphos
[06:23] <apokryphos> hm
[06:23] <apokryphos> !components
[06:23] <ubotu> methinks components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[06:33] <lascar> i can't change the write permisson for sources.list
[06:33] <lascar> sudo'd and everything
[06:33] <jjesse> you need to become superuser
[06:34] <lascar> how do i do that?
[06:37] <jjesse> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <jjesse> will open up kate and w/ the correct rights, run that from K Menu -> Run
[06:39] <lascar> cool, thanx
[06:41] <lascar> still can't find package, perhaps "kplayer" is the wrong name?
[07:03] <jjesse> is there a reason you didn't install mplayer?
[07:04] <jjesse> or even use kaffine or amorK
[07:07] <apokryphos> jjesse: you missed him :P
[07:07] <jjesse> apokryphos: d'oh thanks for letting me know :)
[07:07] <jjesse> i forgot i turned off join/leave events in konversation
[07:08] <apokryphos> during the spam fest?
[07:08] <apokryphos> yeah, that was annoying
[07:15] <jjesse> apokryphos: just wnated to let you know that doc.ububntu.com is the docteam's new server where a working draft of all our docs are stored if you are intereseted in previewing any of them
[07:15] <apokryphos> nice
[07:15] <tetzuo> ahoi
[07:15] <apokryphos> hola!
[07:15] <tetzuo> hola
[07:17] <apokryphos> jjesse: a whole guide on English grammar, heh =)
[07:17] <jjesse> apokryphos: the styleguide
[07:17] <apokryphos> x, y, and z  (that last comma there isn't syntactically necessary 8)
[07:18] <jjesse> grin
[07:19] <apokryphos> hehe, it's quite comprehensive (the styleguide). Nice stuff.
[07:22] <apokryphos> I think there should be a pargraph with an honest comparison to gnome; it's a question a lot of potential-kubuntu users ask, and rightly so.
[07:22] <jjesse> in which doc and want to write it up :P
[07:24] <apokryphos> jjesse: the About Kubuntu, and... I may. You guys better hack away my bias though, I'll be more poor at doing that :D
[07:24] <apokryphos> jjesse: btw, is that the final docbook format?
[07:24] <apokryphos> seems fairly essential to have a Next/Previous/Up button
[07:24] <jjesse> agreed
[07:24] <apokryphos> I saw it earlier.... aha, just as the QuickGuide has
[07:25] <jjesse> apokryphos: adding it to the task list
[07:25] <jjesse> we need more kubuntu doc writers :(
[07:25] <apokryphos> is there much more to do for the moment?
[07:26] <apokryphos> Ok, I'll try to write that comparison now. What's the address for the docbook source again? The svn repo
[07:26] <jjesse> not much more will get done before sept 1 breezy doc freeze it seems
[07:26] <apokryphos> heh, tomorrow
[07:26] <apokryphos> not going to work through the doc freeze? ;-)
[07:26] <apokryphos> in KDE they *always* fly-by them :P
[07:27] <jjesse>   svn co https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc
[07:27] <apokryphos> thanks
[07:27] <jjesse> well work through the doc freeze on finalizing, don't know for sure how they are limiting them
[07:28] <apokryphos> would be silly; you can get an awful lot of docwriting done in over a month, for sure.
[07:28] <apokryphos> proofreading is quicker/easier, too
[07:32] <apokryphos> jjesse: you guys are a lot more liberal with your markup :P
[07:34] <jjesse> yeah we are
[07:34] <apokryphos> i.e. no markup for acronyms etc
[07:34] <apokryphos> good for new users, I guess.
[07:35] <apokryphos> jjesse: where's the .entities file?
[07:35] <apokryphos> called something else, I guess. Just the place where the entities are defined
[07:37] <apokryphos> I also think it's important to stress (perhaps in the styleguide), that it would probably be ok for people to submit .txt files, which aren't marked up. Many people can still be daunted by the new markup, and it's the content essentially that doccers need
[07:37] <apokryphos> quite a few suggestions, hope you don't mind :P
[07:40] <jjesse> sorry boss was around, no i don't mind
[07:48] <amu> someone saw opi
[07:48] <amu> !seen opi
[07:48] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'opi', amu
[08:13] <dell500> how do I get a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7000) to work?
[08:21] <wong> hi..anyone
[08:21] <jjesse> hello wong
[08:21] <wong> yes
[08:21] <wong> nice2 meet u
[08:21] <jjesse> likewise
[08:31] <Blissex> dell500:  ask in #wireless
[08:31] <dell500> thanks
[08:34] <wong> build-essential: Depends: gcc (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[08:34] <wong>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[08:34] <wong> anyone can solve tis problem..
[08:34] <apokryphos> wong: you not connected to the net?
[08:34] <amu> dell500: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/03/3/303625
[08:34] <wong> build-essential: Depends: gcc (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[08:34] <wong> hey jiesse ..there
[08:35] <dell500> thanks amu
[08:35] <apokryphos> wong: yes... are you connected to the Internet on that computer?
[08:35] <wong> yes
[08:35] <apokryphos> then it should have no problem installing build-essential :/
[08:35] <wong> if no connect internet, then how i can chatting with u
[08:35] <apokryphos> unless you uncommented the Internet repos or something
[08:36] <apokryphos> wong: from another PC, obviously.
[08:36] <amu> gcc 3.3 ?
[08:36] <wong> yes
[08:36] <apokryphos> 3.3 is in Hoary, yes.
[08:37] <wong> pardon..Hoary?
[08:37] <apokryphos> wong: are you not on hoary?
[08:37] <amu> gcc_3.3.5-1_i386.deb is in hoary
[08:37] <apokryphos> wong: cat /etc/issue   ...gives?
[08:37] <wong> how 2 solve it..
[08:38] <apokryphos> wong: are you on hoary? What's the output of cat /etc/issue ?
[08:38] <wong> give some command ..let me try
[08:38] <amu> wong: which distro you are running ?
[08:38] <wong> yes
[08:38] <amu> ^^
[08:38] <apokryphos> the output is surely not yes :D
[08:38] <amu> apokryphos: hehe
[08:39] <wong> alright
[08:39] <apokryphos> amu: communication in IRC: day one.
[08:39] <apokryphos> wong: so, what is the output?
[08:39] <amu> apokryphos: :D
[08:39] <wong> E: Unmet dependencies.
[08:39] <amu> *lol*
[08:39] <wong> the output is E: Unmet dependencies.
[08:39] <apokryphos> hehe
[08:40] <apokryphos> wong: you're not putting in the command I told you to :)
[08:40] <amu> wong: you are joking
[08:40] <wong> nope really1
[08:40] <wong> i jst type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:40] <amu> wong: do what apokryphos said
[08:40] <apokryphos> don't type that
[08:40] <apokryphos> type:   cat /etc/issue
[08:40] <apokryphos> what does that give?
[08:41] <wong> how.. izzit type cat/etc/issue/gcc
[08:41] <apokryphos> amu: not sure whether to laugh or cry ;-)
[08:41] <apokryphos> wong: no, just cat /etc/issue
[08:41] <wong> ok
[08:41] <amu> apokryphos: :)
[08:42] <wong> the output is Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[08:42] <wong> tis want
[08:42] <apokryphos> woo! You are on Hoary. :)
[08:42] <wong> what is it?
[08:42] <wong> so?
[08:42] <apokryphos> a version of Ubuntu; the latest Stable
[08:42] <apokryphos> so, there must be a problem with the actual getting of the packages
[08:43] <amu> wong: you should run a dist-upgrade, cause on hoary gcc is 3.3.5
[08:43] <apokryphos> wong: if you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential    ...do you still get the error?
[08:44] <apokryphos> well, if you do, then we'll need to alter your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <wong> then..
[08:46] <wong> what should i do it
[08:47] <apokryphos> do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:47] <apokryphos> does that give the error?
[08:48] <wong> still get error
[08:48] <wong> can i put ubuntu disk 2 install gcc
[08:48] <jjesse> apokryphos: updated the docs with your suggestion
[08:48] <apokryphos> for GCC, I think -- yes.
[08:48] <apokryphos> jjesse: cool :)
[08:49] <wong> hehe.. i 1st time 2 use it.. where i can find update system
[08:49] <apokryphos> Gotta go for a bit now; I'll help later if you're still here
[08:50] <apokryphos> sorry about that :)
[08:50] <wong> ok..thanks anyone
[08:50] <wong> guve urs some trouble
[08:50] <wong> sorry anyine
[08:51] <wong> ubotu: there
[08:51] <ubotu> wong: Not a clue
[08:52] <thoreauputic> wong: ubotu is a bot
[08:54] <wong> bot?
[08:55] <wong> hehe
[09:23] <wong> yez
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !seen apokryphos
[09:41] <ubotu> apokryphos<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 51m 7s ago, saying: 'sorry about that :)'.
[09:41] <foul> when I run the update will it automatically install the latest version of KDE?
[09:41] <m0ns00n> Hello
[09:41] <foul> <_< Hi.
[09:41] <m0ns00n> :-)
[09:41] <m0ns00n> You're foul
[09:42] <m0ns00n> Hehe
[09:42] <foul> Yes I am
[09:43] <wong> i had error when run eclipse .
[09:43] <wong> error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file:
[09:43] <wong> ibgtk-x11-2.0.so.0??
[09:43] <wong> anyone know tat
[09:44] <m0ns00n> hmm
[09:44] <m0ns00n> Did you install libgtk dev?
[09:44] <m0ns00n> do a search on it
[09:58] <Budda> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check <-- what does this mean? and how can i fix it?
[10:02] <foul> I used to run winmac_fstab with sudo /home/chris/winmac_fstab, but that was in ubuntu, is there something with kubuntu that makes that not work?  It keeps saying unknown command
[10:03] <foul> never mind I figured it out :-P
[10:05] <amu> Budda: /lib/cpp fails sanity check means that you don't have a C++ compiler installed
[10:11] <_nyn_> hi. i'm using that package that makes gtk apps look like qt ones. the problem is that text i type in gtk apps, as well as the cursor, remain with the former gtk color, black, and since i'm using a grey background they are quite invisible. i've tried changing gtk themes, but that has no effect. there is no text in my kde/qt config that is set to black... any ideas?
[10:28] <_mike> hi, um i installed misfit modellor through the generic instructions (cd, configure, make, make install)and restarted, but now i cant find it in any of my menus
[10:29] <_mike> ...anyone...
[10:30] <phazeman> hi all
[10:30] <phazeman> there is something strange going on.....
[10:31] <phazeman> i've been trying to install some apps here with apt-get and none of them did install
[10:31] <phazeman> everything screams about bad packages
[10:31] <phazeman> can someone help please ?
[10:31] <phazeman> i'm talking about gimp and gaim
[10:31] <achille> what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like
[10:33] <phazeman> i've updated it last night when narg gave me his one
[10:33] <phazeman> i did it to install the kde 3.4.2
[10:34] <phazeman> achille: i don't mind to set it up back to what it was (i saved it) but i hope it won't harm the KDE
[10:34] <seth_k> TheMagnumMunkey, compiling things from source will never give you a menu entry
[10:34] <TheMagnumMunkey> they always did b4
[10:36] <seth_k> I see you over in #ubuntu, are you running KDE or gnome?
[10:37] <seth_k> ah, KDE
[10:37] <mindspin> jdjdj
[10:37] <seth_k> mindspin, ?
[10:38] <mindspin> i can not log in correctly
[10:39] <mindspin> forgoz the passwd for mindspin so i cannot register for #ubuntu
[10:39] <mindspin> and _mindspin doesn#t work
[10:40] <mindspin> and yes I#m on kubuntu, but #ubuntu is a little more alive
[10:41] <metellius> so I just had kind of a harddisk-crash, loads of files have been messed up, kdm won't start (startx will though), and kicker (actually any panel) isn't showing. what do you people suggest? reinstall kubuntu?
[10:42] <BlankB> metellius: and make a good backup when you are done.
[10:42] <seth_k> indeed
[10:42] <metellius> i'm going to do that now :)
[10:43] <metellius> but can I somehow reinstall all main-packages with synaptic?
[10:44] <athlon> is there an update notification applet for kubuntu ? similar to the one in gnome
[10:45] <phazeman> need help with gaim install... it gives me an "broken package" error. can someone help please ?
[10:45] <seth_k> phazeman, what is the exact error?
[10:45] <seth_k> athlon, no
[10:45] <phazeman> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:45] <phazeman>   gaim: Depends: libgtkspell0 (>= 2.0.2) but it is not installable
[10:45] <phazeman> E: Broken packages
[10:46] <phazeman> seth_k: ^^^
[10:46] <seth_k> you're trying to install gaim from apt?
[10:46] <phazeman> yes
[10:46] <seth_k> alright, one second
[10:46] <phazeman> sudo apt-get install gaim
[10:46] <phazeman> k
[10:46] <phazeman> thanks
[10:47] <seth_k> could you run the command: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:47] <seth_k> and paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:47] <phazeman> seth_k: yes...
[10:47] <phazeman> sec
[10:48] <phazeman> seth_k: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/350375
[10:48] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[10:48] <seth_k> yeah, there's your problem
[10:48] <phazeman> seth_k: ?
[10:48] <Whistler> Hi
[10:48] <seth_k> phazeman, see the post by me in pastebin right below yours?
[10:48] <seth_k> Seth, 18 hr ago
[10:49] <seth_k> phazeman, terminal command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <phazeman> seth_k: ok
[10:49] <phazeman> see it
[10:49] <seth_k> delete your list, and replace it with mine
[10:49] <seth_k> then terminal command: sudo apt-get update
[10:49] <phazeman> seth_k: sec
[10:50] <blackflag> whistler, whats going on by you?
[10:51] <badbear> hi,
[10:51] <phazeman> seth_k: ok it's done. could you please explain me what exactly was the problem so i won't get that mistake again ?
[10:51] <blackflag> hi
[10:52] <badbear> i have a usb flash drive, i plug it in, and kubuntu recognized it
[10:52] <seth_k> phazeman, you did not have a deb line for main
[10:52] <seth_k> only a deb-src line
[10:52] <phazeman> hrmmmm let me look again....
[10:52] <badbear> but when i use "remove safety", the usb flash don't turn of the light
[10:52] <badbear> turn off
[10:52] <badbear> so i think its still connected
[10:53] <badbear> how could i disconnect the usb flash ?
[10:53] <phazeman> seth_k: could you please point me to the src line that is in MY sources.list ? i cant see it
[10:53] <phazeman> badbear: try to umount it
[10:53] <seth_k> phazeman, the src line in your sources.list is the first line
[10:53] <seth_k> phazeman, notice it is "deb-src" and not "deb"
[10:53] <badbear> i already do that
[10:54] <badbear> but the same happens
[10:54] <phazeman> ahh yeah i see it... thanks much seth_k
[10:54] <seth_k> cheers
[10:54] <seth_k> make sure you run: sudo apt-get update
[10:54] <seth_k> to get the new sources.list
[10:54] <phazeman> seth_k: i come from mandriva and have to get used to apt
[10:54] <seth_k> and maybe sudo apt-get upgrade too
[10:54] <phazeman> i did already
[10:54] <seth_k> ok
[10:54] <phazeman> thanks :)
[10:54] <seth_k> yeah, apt is much better than rpm in my opinion :)
[10:54] <seth_k> I like it a lot
[10:54] <phazeman> seth_k: but urpmi is much more simple by me
[10:54] <phazeman> may be it's coz i'm used to it
[10:55] <seth_k> yeah, probably
[10:55] <phazeman> using it for 3-4 years...
[10:58] <_mindspin> hi, sorry for asking such astupid question, but: where do I have to add the call for a script (firewallbuilder) to get it executed at boot time?
[10:58] <_mindspin> sorry wrong channel
[10:59] <phazeman> hrmmm... anyone here using xorg's kayboard layout feature ?
[10:59] <phazeman> i can't seem to find my own note about setting multiple layouts...
[11:14] <nikkia> nice one linus
[11:14] <nikkia> they took the mppe code back out of the kernel
[11:16] <blackflag> passing
[11:22] <phazeman> any gaim experts here ?
[11:22] <gdh> nah try #ubuntu, it's a GTK / GNOME app...
[11:22] <gdh> or #gaim ?
[11:22] <phazeman> gdh: thanks
[11:31] <beckSTAR> hi leute
[11:31] <beckSTAR> hab mal ne frage
[11:32] <beckSTAR> bin neue in sachen linux "kubunto"
[11:32] <beckSTAR> wie kann ich ins quakenet wechseln ?
[11:34] <Riddell> beckSTAR: #kubuntu-de ?
[11:35] <Riddell> apokryphos: you never told me you were going for membership
[11:35] <apokryphos> Riddell: yeah, mainly just to help with the channel (spambots/idiots) in channels if possible :)
[11:36] <Riddell> apokryphos: want me to give you ops?
[11:37] <apokryphos> Riddell: I'm meant to be getting it now for here (mako says).. if you would, then that would be great I guess, yes. =)
[11:38] <Riddell> anyone object to apokryphos getting ops?
[11:38] <nikkia> nope
[11:38] <apokryphos> Speak now or forever hold your peace :D
[11:39] <apokryphos> Riddell: thanks =)
[11:39] <Riddell> done
[11:40] <nikkia> Riddell: hmmm?
[11:40] <nikkia> Riddell: did you just re-add me, or is chanserv being buggy ?
[11:40] <nikkia> or did everyone get that ?
[11:41] <Riddell> nikkia: I changed your level to the same as the other ops, no practical changes
[11:41] <nikkia> Riddell: ah, didn't realise i wasn't the same level
[11:41] <Riddell> neither did I until just now
[11:43] <BlankB> !faq
[11:43] <ubotu> faq is probably Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[11:45] <brk3> does anyone know in the resize partition dialog when installing, and it says 'new partition size:', does that mean enter the size you want to reduce that partition to, or the size you want to reduce it by?
[11:48] <Blissex> brk3: the new total size. And probably you lose the existing contents.
[11:49] <brk3> :9
[11:49] <brk3> i want to do a dual boot
[11:49] <brk3> i was told i could resize the main partition without losing everything on it


[09:37] <s-fox> Hello.
[09:38]  * benonsoftware waves to s-fox
[09:38] <s-fox> Hello benonsoftware , how're you ?
[09:38] <benonsoftware> I'm on holidays, how are you?
[09:38] <s-fox> Not so bad thank you,  good to hear you on holiday
[09:39] <benonsoftware> Yeah, I'm glad I'm on a break for a change :D


[01:32] <MobileTurkey> jedijf: its finally all under control
[01:32] <MobileTurkey> except I have no idea what the heck is up with grub
[01:32] <MobileTurkey> I don't know how to add entries to ubuntus system
[01:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  it should do it automatically
[01:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  there's an update command you can run
[01:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  sudo update-grub
[01:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> why do you have to add stuff manually, if I may ask?
[01:52] <MobileTurkey> TheEvilPhoenix: I have another partition....
[01:52] <MobileTurkey> with another distro
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  sudo update-grub
[01:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> it will scan *all* partitions
[01:52] <MobileTurkey> why is that SO RIDICULOUS. wrong mindset doode. :)
[01:52] <MobileTurkey> thank you :)
[01:52] <MobileTurkey> don't burn up on me ;)
[01:53]  * TheEvilPhoenix is busy fending off 20000 ships from invading earth
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> you'd be surprised how effective antimatter weapons are :p
[01:53] <MobileTurkey> don't worry, after this I am getting right into playing Age of mythology... :)
[01:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> lucky for me, i've got a fleet of about 250000 ships
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> but theirs are superior?
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> each with the firepower to nuke the entire planet :P
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> well
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> the death star(s)!
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> my 250000 is about equal to their 20000
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> ...
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> so this is an even match?
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> only wit and cunning tactical ability will win the battle?
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> although the <SECRET FLEET OF PWNAGE> I've been developing is en route
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> and it has more power than all 250000 ships combinede
[01:54] <MobileTurkey> Egad! off with you and back to your battle station!
[01:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> i dont have to be out there
[01:55]  * TheEvilPhoenix has the superior tactics and overall battle strength
[01:55] <MobileTurkey> a commander wlling to let his troups die.
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> the secret fleet is comprised of 10 ships
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'm on the lead ship on that fleet
[01:55] <MobileTurkey> what sort of ships are we talking?
[01:55] <MobileTurkey> like space balls ships?
[01:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  think massive dreadnaught-class ships
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> each about the size of the state of Texas :P
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> and with enough firepower to irradiate the surface of Earth about 800 times over
[01:56] <MobileTurkey> Texas huh?
[01:56] <MobileTurkey> what the hell kind of game is this!
[01:56] <MobileTurkey> (and where is my oil
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> MobileTurkey:  :P
[01:56] <MobileTurkey> but seriously... what game is this?
[01:56] <MobileTurkey> I want in!
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[01:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> well
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> its a simulated battle in an old star trek game
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> and...
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> today I was at a dinner with my girlfriends family, and her little cousin starts charging up with hte nerf guns
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> i modified things... :P
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> so we duked it out
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> heh
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> TheEvilPhoenix: also, how can I uninstall unity, gnome etc?
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> that whole blob
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> is Unity just unity shell + gnome2?
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> erm
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> you'd better ask in #ubuntu
[01:57] <MobileTurkey> okay
[01:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> been a while since I replaced GNOME/Unity with KDE
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> and i didnt install Kubuntu, i installed just KDE
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:58] <MobileTurkey> KDE? TDE my frenn
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> TDE?
[01:58] <MobileTurkey> Trinity Desktop Environment
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh wait
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> be riight back
[01:58] <MobileTurkey> http://trinitydesktop.org
[01:58]  * TheEvilPhoenix is headed into battle
[01:58] <MobileTurkey> bahaha
[01:58] <MobileTurkey> may the force be with you
[01:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> dont need it
[01:59]  * TheEvilPhoenix watched half their battle force die from the heavy weapons of the dreadnought fleet
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> the rest are in retreat :p
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> as for my battle force...
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> well...
[01:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> meh
[02:03] <MobileTurkey> hehe
[02:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> the dreadnoughts are fine
[02:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> and about half the other ships are fine
[02:05] <MobileTurkey> fine... as in still texas?
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> fine as in no hull damage, and minimal shield damage
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> as i said
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> they're dreadnoughts
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> fail!
[02:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> YOU FAILED!
[02:16] <sadin> back guys :D
[02:47] <MutantTu1key> arch up and running nicely
[02:47] <MutantTu1key> all those things I just take for granted I have to reinstall.
[03:02] <jackson> o/
[06:26] <InHisName> ZZZzzzzz
[09:52] <rmg511> Morning
[11:10] <jedijf> +
[11:10] <jedijf> keyboard fail
[11:58] <waltman_> morning?
[12:08] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:16] <MutantTurkey1> new lappy at school, grades will suffer
[13:20] <jthan> Morning guys
[13:25] <rmg51> o/
[13:26] <teddy-dbear> 8-)  0/
[13:29] <MutantTurkey1> o/
[13:34] <jthan> Oh geez.
[13:34] <jthan> Quite a greeting, right there
[14:26] <InHisName1> having too much fun playing with new toy, than paying attention in class, MutantTurkey?
[14:29] <InHisName1> pleia2 or other 'expert' to help me to fix my 'damage'.
[14:30] <jthan> What damage ?
[14:30] <InHisName1> I had 5 broken pckgs.  I tried just about all options but none worked.  I picked one and 'removed' it.  30 other things went away too, including the other 4 packages.   All were libxyz types.
[14:31] <InHisName1> Now even firefox and chrome crash now and then.
[14:31] <jthan> How do you manage all of this breakage?
[14:32] <InHisName1> How to put back those libs ?   I wrote names down.   I get errors when I install one at a time.
[14:32] <InHisName1> Dunno on breakage, just appeared one day.
[14:32] <jthan> What kind of errors?
[14:33] <InHisName1> right after an update
[14:33] <InHisName1> Hold on I'll got to that machine and try again and see what errors
[14:33] <jthan> Well - don't worry about it now
[14:33] <jthan> I'm just getting the info out for others to read. I've gotta go back to class
[14:35] <InHisName> list moved of what to reinstall.
[14:39] <InHisName> found it,  installing libqtgui4  - waiting for errors
[14:45] <InHisName> Hmmmm, still saying 'preparing packages'  different and s.l.o.w.
[15:00] <jedijf> starving....where is my food?
[15:03] <InHisName1> Awww, you poor boy, not even a piece of bread ?
[15:03] <InHisName1> Here is some ----> eFood
[15:04] <InHisName> GHHhhhaaaa, its still 'preparing packages...."
[15:10] <Sadin> JonathanD are you there i have a question
[15:14] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop  if you didn't get that answer...reading backlog while i starve
[15:15] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: next Ubuntu install use alternate cd and choose cli install only and build up
[15:15] <jedijf> or do that now and put where the other 'buntu is
[15:16] <Sadin> jedijf who is in charge of our loco website?
[15:16] <jedijf> our wordpress blog? how can I assist you?
[15:17] <Sadin> jedijf i dont know if you saw thati had said last night i was trying to get inot the artwork team
[15:17] <Sadin> into*
[15:18] <Sadin> well id like to (if its okay with you) take on the task of making the wodpress blog's theme match the modern ubuntu style as my first artwork comunity job
[15:22] <Sadin> jedijf im in school right now classes are switching soon so if you would please think about my offer :) ill be back on irc around 3:30
[15:29] <JonathanD> I am Sadin
[15:30] <Sadin> JonathanD okay well class is ending what do you think about my offer
[15:30] <JonathanD> That sounds like an interesting project.
[15:30] <Sadin> i really wanna get involved more and i think its a great place to start
[15:31] <JonathanD> I'm not the one to ask though.
[15:31] <Sadin> i asked jedijf but i didnt get a response yet
[15:31] <Sadin> i hope hell give me an answer when i get home from school later at 3:30 see ya JonathanD
[15:31] <jedijf> Sadin: make a wordpress theme....
[15:32] <Sadin> jedijf yes
[15:32] <jedijf> sadin then we can all look and vote
[15:32] <Sadin> :O
[15:32] <Sadin> alright sounds good
[15:32] <Sadin> c ya everyone
[15:32] <JonathanD> later Sadin
[15:57] <jedijf> sadin the keystone logo must stay
[16:24] <jedijf> but can be oranged
[16:25] <WiCkD1> hello.
[16:34] <InHisName1> HiYa WiCkD1
[16:35] <WiCkD1> hello InHisName1 where are you from? what part of the state?
[16:35] <InHisName1> Near Doylestown, PA
[16:35] <InHisName1> Philly area
[16:35] <WiCkD1> oh nice! I'm in Allentown.
[16:36] <WiCkD1> I've only been to Doylestown once...caught the R5 to Philly from there once.
[16:36] <InHisName1> we got one in Hellertown and another up that way too.
[16:36] <WiCkD1> what? septa?!
[16:36] <InHisName1> That'd do well for you.  Easy parking that way.
[16:36] <InHisName1> yes, septa
[16:37] <WiCkD1> oh nice I gotta look into that if they expanded this way...I've already been towed in Philly once...2 weekends ago.
[16:38] <InHisName1> expanded ?  HAH!   every 1/4 century a little something might happen. Otherwise NOT.
[16:39] <WiCkD1> lol.
[16:39] <WiCkD1> Ill keep driving.
[16:39] <WiCkD1> would be nice though...
[16:39] <jedijf> just park better
[16:39] <WiCkD1> yeah tell me about it.
[16:39] <WiCkD1> lol.
[16:39] <jedijf> i get towed often
[16:39] <jedijf> don't like rules
[16:39] <WiCkD1> I still say that not allowing cars parked overnight in center city is BS.
[16:42] <InHisName1> hey jedijf do you know about major repairs after 'broken packages' error message and I removed one in order to reinstall.   Took out 30 other things.   Now can't install any back.
[16:43] <jedijf> InHisName1: do sudo aptitude update    that should give you answers
[16:44] <InHisName1> that's what I started with trying to fix the busted packages.  wouldn't fix, finally removed one
[16:44] <InHisName1> I'll reboot it and try it one more time anyway.
[16:50] <InHisName> update no error messages
[16:50] <InHisName> no no upgrade no error messages
[16:51] <InHisName> update did have errors: dpkg-deb: error: subprocess <decompress> returned error exit status 1
[16:51] <InHisName> plus more
[16:53] <InHisName> From /var/log/dpkg.log --->2011-09-30 12:49:52 startup archives unpack      2011-09-30 12:49:57 install libqtgui4 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.2 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.3                      2011-09-30 12:49:57 status half-installed libqtgui4 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.2                                   2011-09-30 12:49:58 status config-files libqtgui4 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.2
[17:13] <jedijf> sudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name
[17:15] <jedijf> InHisName1: ^ do that for the bad packages and update again
[17:16] <InHisName1> Ok, just change 'package' to the name and run it ?
[17:17] <InHisName> dpkg: error: conflicting actions -f (--field) and -r (--remove)
[17:17] <jedijf> typo
[17:17] <jedijf> InHisName1: do this firt
[17:17] <jedijf> first
[17:18] <jedijf> sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:18] <InHisName> k
[17:18] <jedijf> then, sudo apt-get clean
[17:18] <jedijf> then, sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:18] <InHisName> done both
[17:18] <InHisName> ok
[17:18] <jedijf> try update again
[17:19] <InHisName> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[17:19] <InHisName> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:19] <jedijf> do that
[17:19] <InHisName> from autoremove
[17:19] <jedijf> sudo apt-get -f install
[17:20] <InHisName> which first after autoremove ?   -f ins or update again ?
[17:21] <jedijf> -f install
[17:23] <InHisName> update same as before, no visible problems.   Should I do upgrade again?
[17:24] <InHisName> -f install    did put in libqtgui4 without error.
[17:24] <jedijf> update
[17:24] <InHisName> No error msgs with update
[17:25] <jedijf> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:25] <InHisName> ok
[17:26] <jedijf> if it works donate $5 to the release party appetizer fund
[17:26] <InHisName> 17 upg and 1 to remove
[17:26] <InHisName> doing stuff
[17:26] <jedijf> pleia2: looks like we get apps \o/
[17:27] <pleia2> apps?
[17:27] <pleia2> lol
[17:27] <pleia2> oh I see :)
[17:30] <InHisName> Current status: 0 updates [-17].     is this good or not good ?
[17:34] <InHisName> there were two errors that started with this: WARNING: Failed to parse default value `' for schema
[17:39] <jedijf> InHisName1: success...it's been so long, you don't know what it looks like
[17:40] <InHisName> Now what's next, a rehash to be sure ?
[17:41] <jedijf> nothing, enjoy ubuntu
[17:42] <InHisName> not even a reboot ?
[17:44] <InHisName> Synaptic pkg mgr seems to like things now.  Even offers virtualbox-4.1,  I'll try that now.
[17:47] <rmg51> sure go ahead, find more ways to break it :-/
[17:54] <InHisName> Preconfiguring packages ...                                            Selecting previously deselected package libqt4-opengl.                                                      (Reading database ... 207280 files and directories currently installed.)
[17:54] <InHisName> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.                                                    A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[17:55] <InHisName> Should I close and ?   A try again (installing vbox), B reboot, C ???
[17:56] <InHisName> That is last of details.  No recovery seen yet.
[17:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> InHisName:  pastebin much?
[17:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> :/
[18:12] <InHisName> The application dpkg-preconfigure has crashed.                            Information about the crash has been successfully collected.                              This application is not known to Bug Buddy, therefore the
[18:17] <jedijf> do the apt-get -f install
[18:22] <InHisName> 0 on all items
[18:22] <jedijf> update
[18:23] <InHisName> clean run except for vbox notice public key not avail.
[18:23] <InHisName> but that is probably normal for them
[18:23] <jedijf> google that...figure it out
[18:26] <InHisName> went thru series of commands.   Now with synaptic pkg mgr.   Installing vbox4.1  only ONE pkg this time.  We will see.
[18:44] <InHisName> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox-4.1_4.1.2-73507~Ubuntu~natty_i386.deb: subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
[18:45] <InHisName> Seems to have issue --unpack with the .deb file for vbox.
[19:11] <InHisName> re-booted,  ran each of the series of commands again.   Then:  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.1
[19:12] <InHisName> It ran and did NOT have issues unpacking like synaptic pkg mgr has had.    Looking good so far....
[19:15] <InHisName> I click on system tools>vbox and   ....   .... nothing
[19:16] <InHisName> observing top, and clicking...    VirtualBox starts,  one sec,  then two processes vbox.... for one sec then all GONE.  Nothing after that.
[19:17] <InHisName> Need to reboot again?
[19:26] <InHisName> kids coming home on sch bus, later.
[20:44] <jedijf> lamalex: calendar access please jedijf at myfisher dot org
[23:15] <MobileTurkey> guy Pm's me about girl advice....
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> hm?
[23:16]  * TheEvilPhoenix hands MobileTurkey a turkey gun
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> no idea
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> it sgetting weird fast
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> girl asked him on date, he doesnt know what to do
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> \then she begged him to marry her
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> he shows me 1 picture and asks if she looks good
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> then if she will be a good mother
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> ...
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> ...
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> i trust you know the guy?
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> if not report them
[23:16] <MobileTurkey> nope
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> he's floating in #archlinux
[23:17] <pleia2> the internet is weird
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> its quite possible i've talke dto him
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> 1000+ people
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> anyway watching toy story with my sis, what a great film
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> "you're my  favorite deputy!"
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> did you tell him to ask a psychologist instead?
[23:17] <MobileTurkey> pleia2: once it gets a bit weirder I am splitting
[23:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> or perhaps tell him to piss off
[23:18] <MobileTurkey> TheEvilPhoenix: not yet not yet
[23:18] <MobileTurkey> he is 25, she is 24.5
[23:19] <pleia2> I don't tend to talk to people privately who I don't know well
[23:19] <pleia2> if they want to talk, they can talk to me with everyone else
[23:19] <TheEvilPhoenix> indeed
[23:20] <MobileTurkey> yes good point
[23:21] <MobileTurkey> sigh
[23:21] <MobileTurkey> I told him to see a psychiatrist
[23:22] <MobileTurkey> (7:28 PM) LynxOfMint: but how good looking of a partner is she?
[23:22] <MobileTurkey> ...
[23:23] <pleia2> there really is no need to share the pain with us further :)
[23:25] <MobileTurkey> pleia2: I might just have to start randomly messaging people with my problems... :-P
[23:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> indeed
[23:26]  * TheEvilPhoenix will slap MobileTurkey if we have to endure this crap anymore
[23:28] <MobileTurkey> this is getting really weird.
[23:29] <MobileTurkey> I digress, has anyone seen a guy named Piki in here? I haven't seen him in forever
[23:29] <MobileTurkey> @seen Piki
[23:29] <TheEvilPhoenix> you forget the bot is dead
[23:30] <TheEvilPhoenix> although i can fix that by pulling up a supybot :P
[23:31] <MobileTurkey> what happened to PennBot?
[23:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> it died
[23:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> someone tripped on the power cord
[23:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> and killed the drive
[23:32] <pleia2> it's vulnerabile to a problem that makes it explode and take up 100% of the CPU on the server
[23:32] <pleia2> the server only has 512M of RAM, so a 100M supybot was not awesome anyway
[23:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> mhm
[23:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> well once i get my box shipped here
[23:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'll be able to dump an IRC bot onto the connection
[23:32] <pleia2> python monstrosity...
[23:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> via the box
[23:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> pleia2:  i hear ya
[23:32]  * TheEvilPhoenix uses a bot framework that uses far less RAM
[23:33] <MobileTurkey> pleia2: that's terrible
[23:34] <MobileTurkey> where do you host the server/
[23:34] <pleia2> it's a linode
[23:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> ewwwwey
[23:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> linode >.>
[23:34] <pleia2> <3 linode
[23:34] <pleia2> they donated it to us a few years ago, they've been very good to this team
[23:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> orly?
[23:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> cool
[23:43] <MobileTurkey> I have a vps but i never usre it
[23:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'll take it :P
[23:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> if you wont use it xD
[23:44] <MobileTurkey> I mean...
[23:44] <MobileTurkey> It's really cheap
[23:44] <MobileTurkey> like 25 for a few months
[23:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> heh
[23:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> what os is it?
[23:45] <MobileTurkey> not so bad
[23:45] <MobileTurkey> any you want
[23:45] <MobileTurkey> I have debian
[23:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah debian
[23:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> debian's nice :P
[23:45] <MobileTurkey> they have like Archlinux debian uubntu etc
[23:45] <MobileTurkey> everything you can think over
[23:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> CentOS?
[23:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> god-forbidden RHEL?
[23:46] <MobileTurkey> isn't that costing money?
[23:46] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[23:48] <MobileTurkey> all freedistros
[23:48] <MobileTurkey> awesome support as well. the guys help out with data migration personally
[23:48] <MobileTurkey> its nice
[23:49] <MobileTurkey> VPS-host
[23:49] <MobileTurkey> err vps-forge
[23:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> link
[23:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> LINK
[23:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> LINK NAO
[23:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> well its either that or i replace the VPSes with a business-class static-ip internet connection...
[23:49] <TheEvilPhoenix> and then i just set up this server box again :P
[23:50] <MobileTurkey> http://www.vps-forge.com/
[23:51] <MobileTurkey> I have a static IP with my vps, 300 gigs a month, 256mb ram 50 GB RAID 1 storage
[23:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> eww openvz
[23:51]  * TheEvilPhoenix has a dedi box with 5x16GB Hardware RAID5 SCSI
[23:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/dedi box/server box/
[23:52] <MobileTurkey> openvnz what is that
[23:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> openvz
[23:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> its the virtualization framework they're usingi for the VPSes
[23:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> its anoying
[23:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> annoying*
[23:53] <MobileTurkey> I mean not for me...
[23:53] <MobileTurkey> It doesn't matter how the host their VPS if I am the client
[23:53] <MobileTurkey> I just ssh into it.
[23:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> mhm
[23:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> regardless
[23:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> that's decently priced
[23:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> althoug hits in Germany
[23:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> and I already have a german VPS :P
[23:55] <MobileTurkey> speed is awesome
[23:55] <MobileTurkey> I get awesome speeds
[23:55] <MobileTurkey> but latency is a bitch until they get a US host.
[23:56] <MobileTurkey> like really bad...


[06:51] <GunnarHj> Hi handsome_feng, did you see bug #1966321?
[06:52] <GunnarHj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntukylin-meta/+bug/1966321
[06:55] <handsome_feng> Oh, sorry, just notice that and I will update the seeds these two days
[07:13] <GunnarHj> handsome_feng: Good, thanks for letting me know.