[00:01] <Extreminador> doing it... it's a little bit slow since i was updating the system
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: :) We work at your pace .
[00:04] <Extreminador> none line after the command yet... is it normal this be that slow or having the software updater on it's making it really slow ?
[00:05] <Extreminador> or maybe cause it can't gather the info about the SSD ?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: what is the pastie command that you ran ?
[00:13] <Extreminador> here https://pastebin.com/VuXt6N1v
[00:14] <acoctres> Any way to fix this error
[00:15] <acoctres> Getting an error about kerbal version not working
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: And the command is valid .. did you provide the system your password when asked ?
[00:16] <Extreminador> it did not asked for any password
[00:16] <Extreminador> and if it did i had no idea withc one it would be
[00:17] <Extreminador> but now mouse does not move even... i guess we need to wait
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Could be that you have the poor system over-extended . how powerful is this machine ?
[00:20] <Extreminador> well it's not that bad ut not that good either... could it be that he is traying to get the info from SSD but it's not able to do it and it keep traying it like infinite loop ?
[00:20] <Towser> is there any way I can see the boot logs so that I can see why it shows a black screen for so long before the  ubuntu logo comes up?
[00:20] <Extreminador> i will restart it...
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Nope . system will report there is an issue . A quick check on performance. terminal command 'free' . how much swap is used ?
[00:22] <Extreminador> no idea it is froze the window
[00:23] <Extreminador> restarting it
[00:23] <Towser> it will show a black screen for a while before i see the ubuntu logo
[00:24] <Bashing-om> Towser: journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot ;'  systemd-analyze blame ' to see what is going on when and how long .. assumming a systemd system .
[00:25] <Towser> it takes like 5+ minutes to boot, I think that's too long
[00:25] <Bashing-om> Towser: YUP ! .. way to long ...
[00:26] <Towser> bootup is not yet finished. does that mean it's still loading?
[00:26] <Extreminador> https://pastebin.com/sZsWMptX here it is
[00:26] <Extreminador> after restar it was fast the command
[00:28] <compdoc> Extreminador, what have you found out?
[00:29] <Extreminador> hi compdoc ... Bashing-om have started to help me
[00:29] <compdoc> theres an easy way
[00:29] <Extreminador> i was just checking where the drive was to check it i think
[00:29] <Towser> i see some couldn't get size or UEFI db list errors, is that normal?
[00:30] <Extreminador> cool...
[00:30] <Towser> invalid PCI ROm header signature  as well
[00:31] <Towser> some sort of reuccuring error seems to be some sort of flip_done error, what is this?
[00:32] <Towser> Extreminador, the error that keeps coming up has a flip_done error
[00:33] <Towser> should I just pastebin it for you guys to see what the problem is?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Houston, we have a problem .. All that is presented is Windows ! .. there is no ubuntu present !
[00:35] <Towser> ok so the longest thing on the list is the apt-daily-service
[00:38] <Extreminador> Bashing-om i guess it migh be casue this i the portabl version... i dont have the ubuntu installed it's on a usb stick
[00:41] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Ubuntu on that 8 Gig USB - Fat32 file system ? Then I am the wrong guy to help .
[00:41] <Extreminador> humm it was just a 1.8Gb file or something
[00:42] <Extreminador> i place it on a pen using the Rufus software
[00:42] <Extreminador> and them i did open ubuntu ... i mean instead using the option to install it i used the option "try it"
[00:43] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: OK, beginning to understand now . Are you now booted into that "try ubuntu" ?
[00:43] <Extreminador> yup
[00:44] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Amd the end goal here is to verify that Windows drive that is seens as ' sda ' ??
[00:44] <Extreminador> nop...
[00:45] <Extreminador> it's one drive that at this moment (since this last restart)  it's not being showes (not even unmounted) in the program "Devices & Location"
[00:45] <Extreminador> it's an SSD that for some reason stopped working last night
[00:46] <Extreminador> it's showing now again there let me run that command again
[00:46] <Towser> command to connect ethernet?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: So we have an additional drive not seen ? // reboot and see if Bios sees the drive as you boot up . If Bios does not see the drive there is no way that software will see it ,
[00:47] <Extreminador> bio can see it but can't read from it
[00:47] <Extreminador> making now the command "sudo parted -l" it's stuck i guess
[00:47] <Extreminador> i mean after the command it's all black no aditional lines
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: try and hit the enter key .. as there is no set password in " try ubuntu " mode .
[00:50] <Extreminador> the ... pointer key thing just changes line but all black
[00:50] <Extreminador> so it's like Command that i wrote , them a empty black line an them cursor
[00:50] <Extreminador> "cursor" was the word lol
[00:52] <Extreminador> check here a image of it https://ibb.co/nFuT2A
[00:53] <Extreminador> it's the last one that say's "Jogos" --- "Unmounted"
[00:54] <Extreminador> i guess SSD is really broke lol... glad that is still on the warranty
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Have you verified that Rufus did a good job of burning ? reboot and at the bios splash screen spam the escape key -> language screen - escape key to accept the default; -> boot menu -> "check disk for defects" .
[00:54] <Extreminador> yehh i see that option if i reboot indeed
[00:54] <Extreminador> do i run it ?
[00:56] <Extreminador> running atm the last option on it
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: yeah .. run it .. we need to take the tool as malfunctioning out of the equation here .
[00:58] <Extreminador> humm after a while it asked me to press any key to reboot the system
[00:58] <Extreminador> does that means all ok ?
[00:58] <Extreminador> back on the grub now again
[01:02] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: If the report is " no errors found" then yes reboot .. and we go again .
[01:02] <Extreminador> done i am insie ubuntu again
[01:03] <Extreminador> evre firts time (after reboot) and if i go to the "Disk Usage Analyse" the SSD does not show on it
[01:03] <Extreminador> it seems that (i think) ubuntu try to read from it but them remove it from listening
[01:04] <Extreminador> what i do to listen on it is to turn off and on again the docking station (it's where SDD is atm)
[01:04] <SimonKALI> anyone ustng ubuntu 18.10 as vm?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Now execute terminal command ' sudo fdisk -lu | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass that URL back here .
[01:08] <Extreminador> all black after the command
[01:09] <Extreminador> let me run just the command with out the link
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: K
[01:10] <Extreminador> it stops after showing the firts device the "dev/sdb1"
[01:10] <Extreminador> let me paste what it shows so far
[01:12] <Extreminador> https://pastebin.com/sZ7Rj9FD
[01:12] <Extreminador> the firts terminal that is running the same command but with the site link is still all black
[01:13] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: That again says there is but the 0ne hard drive and a USB device installed to this system .
[01:14] <Extreminador> well has you saw on the image there is a drive called "Jogos" ... it's Games in eng
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Let;s see if ' sudo blkid ' sheds light on what you are seeing .
[01:17] <Extreminador> lol no line was placed after the command
[01:17] <Extreminador> i guess SSD is reaaly broken them
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Or perhaps what we have here is one Windows drive with 4 partitions .. and maybe a linux tool just does not do Windows partition reading ??
[01:21] <Extreminador> see here the pic https://ibb.co/m1mTkV
[01:21] <Extreminador> well naaa
[01:22] <Extreminador> ok lets see ... the laptop (the computer where linux is have atm)
[01:22] <Extreminador> 3 partitions + pen drive + docking station (with the SSD on it)
[01:23] <Extreminador> pen drive = linux bootable
[01:23] <Intelo> How can I connect freenode via tor?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: And the docking station is not seen . what shows ' lsusb ' .
[01:27] <Extreminador> it shows this https://pastebin.com/4tGVPpLz
[01:27] <Extreminador> so the scandisk is the pen where the linux is
[01:28] <Extreminador> sorry sanDisk
[01:29] <Extreminador> have no idea what the dicking station migh be
[01:29] <Extreminador> ups docking
[01:30] <Extreminador> going to turn it off and run that cmd again
[01:33] <Extreminador> 4 things are gone now from the list when i turned off the docking statio
[01:33] <Extreminador> JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA and the 3 ones below that one
[01:33] <Extreminador> it makes sense cause it's a all in one docking station
[01:34] <Extreminador> so it should be the id: 152d:2338 , 048d:1336, 1a40:0101 and 1d6b:0002
[01:35] <Extreminador> forget that last one the 1d6b:0002
[01:35] <Extreminador> just the 3 other0s ones
[01:39] <EDinNY> Hi all, I am running xubuntu bionic and am I trying to setup a 4k monitor. The display settings gui does not list 4k as a resolution to select. Does anyone know of a guide to manually select a non-recommended display setting?
[01:43] <EDinNY> How can I tell if my install of ubuntu is running xorg or wayland?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> Extreminador: Agreed the docking staion os the " JMicron Technology Corp. " device . However, beyond my skills now to know what is inserted in the station .
[01:44] <Extreminador> ohh well mate thanks for all your efford
[01:45] <Extreminador> i guess it's ecure to say that SSD is broken lol
[01:45] <EDinNY> I found I am running X11, thanks
[02:07] <swift110> aww that sucks Exterminador
[02:10] <Extreminador>  yehh i guess its better happen now after 1 year that still has 1 year warranty
[02:19] <olinux> trying to recover some files from windows laptop that wont boot, using ubuntu usb i can see the win disk /dev/sda, fdisk -l shows /dev/sda1, however cant mount /dev/sda1
[02:22] <acoctres> olinux: work with disk images
[02:22] <acoctres> If you NEED the data send it to recovery service.
[02:22] <Bashing-om> olinux: ubuntu has mininal tools to deal with Windows file system . you can try ' sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1 ' . See if it clears a dirty bit .
[02:23] <olinux> ok thanks, it's been a long time since i needed but used to recover with knoppix
[02:24] <olinux> acoctres work with disk imageS?
[02:25] <swift110> sup olinux
[02:25] <olinux> hi
[02:25] <olinux> mounting /dev/sda1 says No such file or directory
[02:29] <acoctres> Ya work with images.   Read disk to image then recover files from image
[02:30] <olinux> ls /dev/ shows /dev/sda but not /dev/sda1
[03:05] <WoC> How would one find a backup of the following page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/en.powerpc/index.html
[03:08] <_nedR> WoC, Tried searching the  internet archive?
[03:11] <_nedR> Woc, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/powerpc/index.html
[03:12] <_nedR> WoC, sorry. i meant https://web.archive.org/web/20121022184806/https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/powerpc/index.html
[03:13] <_nedR> Thats from october 2012, you can check later dates to see the most updated version
[03:32] <malwar3hun73r> i'm running into issues with having apache use a customlog format
[03:33] <malwar3hun73r> i specified the log in the vhost file for the site of interest and i specified the log format in apache2.conf
[03:33] <malwar3hun73r> but, after restarting apache, it continues to use the old format
[03:35] <malwar3hun73r> i'm including %I %O %D which supposedly need mod_logio, but i believe this is compiled into apache
[03:49] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, stupid question. Something seems to have a lock on dpkg. I can see nothing obvious that would- how can I force it to release, or at least see what's using it?
[04:04] <Bashing-om> Wayward_Vagabond: What shows ' sudo lsof /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ' ?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> !ping
[06:42] <ZPQ> plonk
[07:00] <Blankspace> Hi
[07:00] <Blankspace> https://www.pythonanywhere.com/forums/topic/10713/
[07:01] <Blankspace> Can any one help me how to do what is written in comment
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Blankspace, ps -x
[07:01] <cfhowlett> that will list processes.  then kill -9 (process ID number)
[07:02] <cfhowlett> HOWEVER: this is unlikely to cure it as you must be able to boot first
[07:02] <Blankspace> ?
[07:02] <Blankspace> Restart?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> try
[07:03] <Blankspace> How do i know which process to kill
[07:03] <cfhowlett> as i said: poor advice was given.  broken kernels have no relation to processes
[07:04] <ZaZaQR> hello
[07:04] <Blankspace> Then how can i resolve it
[07:04] <Blankspace> Any suggestion?
[07:04] <Blankspace> Should i kill jupyter notebook process or not
[07:04] <cfhowlett> however: reboot, hit <escape> after the splash screen.  that will take you to the grub menu.  choose to boot the older kernels
[07:05] <Blankspace> What does pts/18 means under tty
[07:06] <Kon-> How's 18.04.1 support for the B450 chipset? The actual CPU in the socket is a slightly older Ryzen 5 1600
[07:06] <Blankspace> When i list processes
[07:06] <Kon-> For a fresh install
[07:08] <Blankspace> Thanks cfhowlett
[07:08] <Blankspace> :)
[07:08] <cfhowlett> are you all sorted out, Blankspace?
[07:08] <Blankspace> Killing the process helped
[07:08] <Blankspace> Yes
[07:08] <cfhowlett> :) sweet.  happy2help!
[07:08] <Blankspace> Thanks ti you :)
[07:09] <Blankspace> To
[07:09] <Blankspace> It was sucha small step to resolve and i was thinking about reinstalling and stuff
[07:10] <cfhowlett> tis the magic that is ubuntu!
[07:11] <Blankspace> Yes it is wonderful :D.
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !fcm | Blankspace
[07:13] <Blankspace> Is it ubuntu monthly magazine?
[07:14] <royal_screwup21> any hacks to speed up the start time for atom text editor on ubuntu 16.04? :( I've tried uninstalling packages I don't need but I only see a marginal difference
[07:16] <Blankspace> cfhowlett
[07:16] <Blankspace> What is -x option in ps command for
[07:16] <cfhowlett> Blankspace, time to learn!  do this: man ps
[07:17] <cfhowlett> this will list the manual documentation for the command.
[07:19] <Blankspace> Ok .thank you.
[07:20] <Blankspace> Ill check out.
[07:32] <leonardus> Can I have a GTX 750Ti for running my desktop but then also have a RX 580 in there for GPU passthrough for games? Is that configuration possible?
[07:33] <Disconsented> yep
[07:33] <leonardus> neat!
[07:33] <cfhowlett> nvidia has card switching apps.  not sure which you would need.  perhaps Disconsented knows
[07:34] <Disconsented> Just be aware that as part of setting up vfio you blacklist the RX580 so it will work on linux
[07:54] <acresearch> people i have 500 images that i am trying to rename, but from ubuntu 18.04 Gnome i cannot start from a user specified number, only from one (i want to start from 27)
[07:54] <acresearch> anyone can help me rename muy files starting from 27?
[07:57] <ikonia> what do you mean by start from a number ?
[07:57] <ikonia> how are you identifiying the number
[07:59] <acresearch> ikonia: do i have a database that i am building,    i have 26 images in my database and i want to add 500 more, they are sequencially named   001,002,003,004 etc..     i want to rename my new images starting at 027 so that i can just add them to the databse
[08:00] <ikonia> I dno't understand what you mean, are they in a database so you want SQL to rename them, or are on a file system ?
[08:00] <acresearch> ikonia: no just images in my desktop
[08:00] <acresearch> no SQL
[08:01] <ikonia> just move the first 26 out so you only have a directory with the ones you want and then rename
[08:01] <ikonia> you can always put the other 26 back when done
[08:01] <ikonia> (keep it easy if you're not good with scripts)
[08:01] <acresearch> ikonia: i did that, but i cannot rename the new images starting at 17
[08:01] <acresearch> *27
[08:01] <ikonia> why ?
[08:01] <acresearch> so they are sequencial
[08:01] <ikonia> how are you trying to rename them and what is the problem
[08:01] <acresearch> renaming from the GUI
[08:02] <ikonia> ok....how are you doing it and what is the problem
[08:03] <acresearch> i select the images, right mouse click rename and choose [001,002,003]       problem - there is no option to start from 027   only from 001
[08:08] <ikonia> so you can't do it that way then
[08:09] <ikonia> you need to do it through a script or a different tool
[08:13] <acresearch> ikonia:  what is the script or what is the tool?
[08:14] <bindi> rename the 27 that already have been renamed along with the 500 others?
[08:14] <bindi> re-rename..
[08:16] <acresearch> bindi: i cann't because they are already connected with other files that annotated them
[08:17] <TJ-> acresearch: you want to rename the files in the file-system first?
[08:19] <bindi> acresearch: add 27 fake files?
[08:20] <acresearch> forget it this is too convoluted, i will just write a python script
[08:20] <TJ-> All it needs is perl 'rename' with multiple -e clauses to renumber as well as rename
[08:20] <acresearch> thanks guys
[08:23] <MonsieurBon> I would like to mount an additional drive in one of the folders in my home directory. This is the line I added to /etc/fstab: UUID=some-uuid-of-the-drive /home/my_user/directory ext4 defaults 0 2 This works, but it is mounted as root and I have no rights to write in /home/my_user/directory. Can I somehow change the fstab entry so it is mounted as my user?
[08:24] <bindi> can't you just chown it to yourself?
[08:26] <MonsieurBon> bindi, hum, didn't think of that... :D Will that be permanent?
[08:27] <bindi> yes
[08:27] <MonsieurBon> Ok, I'll give it a try. thx
[08:28] <MonsieurBon> bindi, the options are good with "default 0 2"?
[08:28] <bindi> dunno, never used fstab
[08:28] <bindi> could just use "defaults"
[08:29] <bindi> is 0 even an option?
[08:29] <bindi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Options
[08:30] <bindi> oh
[08:30] <MonsieurBon> that's the dump option
[08:30] <bindi> nevermind i'm tired
[08:30] <bindi> yeah
[08:31] <bindi> looks like they're fine then but again i don't have any real world experience with fstab
[08:31] <bindi> i only use zfs and i thought about your question for a bit and i remember i just chown'd the mountpoints to whatever i needed
[08:31] <bindi> and they stick
[08:33] <WoC> MonsieurBon, "default 0 2" will force fsck on every boot, you want 0 0 unless you want the fsck
[08:34] <WoC> Bon Chance
[08:35] <MonsieurBon> WoC, keeping the 2 sounds like a good thing
[08:36] <linux_gnu> Hi guys , I installed a .run file from ubuntu forum (conky-manager) ,and now rkhunter shows some files have been modified and I m not aware of updating them ,can anyone do a   sha256sum   on one of the following file (ubuntu 18.10 up to date) so I know if I m infected ... many thanks ,files are :  /sbin/init  or  /sbin/runlevel or  /bin/systemd or  /lib/systemd/systemd     one of them would be enough to reassure me !!!
[08:38] <MonsieurBon> linux_gnu, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TGTBgWXzRq/
[08:39] <linux_gnu> just a sha256sum on /sbin/init please ,I don t want to reinstall for nothing!!
[08:40] <MonsieurBon> linux_gnu, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TGTBgWXzRq/
[08:40] <MonsieurBon> linux_gnu, hang on...
[08:41] <MonsieurBon> linux_gnu, just installed updates: this are the current checksums: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DxHKpjHSbH/
[08:43] <linux_gnu> monsieurBon THANK YOU ,I m gooood!!!monsieur est trop bon :)
[08:44] <MonsieurBon> linux_gnu, you're welcome
[08:51] <TJ-> acresearch: Perl 1-liner to renumber from 0028 :  rename  -e 's/\d+/sprintf "%04d", 28 + $0++/ge' *.jpg
[09:08] <ZaZaQR> hello
[09:11] <SimonKALI> is any shortcut to open activities?
[09:33] <SimonKALI> hello
[09:35] <elias_a> SimonKALI: What do you mean with "open activities"?
[09:35] <SimonKALI> yes
[09:35] <SimonKALI> nvm
[09:36] <SimonKALI> how to install newest version of phpmyadmin on ubuntu 18.10?
[09:36] <SimonKALI> https://www.phpmyadmin.net/downloads/
[09:36] <SimonKALI> default on ubuntu 18.10 is phpmyadmin -v 4.6.6
[09:39] <elias_a> SimonKALI: Use ALT + TAB key combination?
[09:40] <elias_a> SimonKALI: Follow the installation instructions of phpmyadmin.
[09:41] <elias_a> SimonKALI: I'd rather stick to older version because it is so much to update it from the repositories.
[09:41] <yao_ziyuan> just installed ubuntu 18.10 on a new Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD, with only one partition "/". anything else i should take care of?
[09:43] <SimonKALI> yao_ziyuan, only backups like always
[09:43] <yao_ziyuan> SimonKALI: of course
[09:44] <SimonKALI> very good disk, I have EVO 256GB
[09:46] <yao_ziyuan> SimonKALI: yes, 860 EVO has the highest TBW among big-brand SSDs. however there is "BPX Pro" from "MyDigitalSSD" that offers even higher TBW, but it's not available (nor does it offer warranty) in china.
[09:48] <SimonKALI> fastest is non always good, I prefer to buy somethig cheaper but stable
[09:49] <yao_ziyuan> SimonKALI: TBW is terabytes written, meaning endurance
[10:15] <soulisson> Hi. I've ubuntu running on a MAC. Right click doesn't work. I tried "tweaks" to enable right click on the pad but it doesn't work. Any idea, please?
[11:09] <funabashi> hi guys
[11:10] <funabashi> ldlinux32 i get when i try to boot from usb
[11:20] <ZaZaQR> hi
[11:20] <soulisson> any one for my issue?
[11:22] <ZaZaQR> i just gone here
[11:34] <guiverc> soulisson: i can't help with mac issue sorry, but repeating your question may not hurt (it was >60mins ago, newer people in room may not have seen it)
[11:35] <soulisson> thanks
[11:36] <guiverc> funabashi: maybe read this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/927804/failed-to-load-ldlinux-c32
[11:39] <B1ack0p> hi
[11:39] <B1ack0p> i am having this error : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BSGWKzDBRP/  when i make sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade command
[11:39] <B1ack0p> what can be the problem?
[11:44] <guiverc> B1ack0p: you could try `sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/arc*`  (delete existing files for sites arc* [will delete all archive.ubuntu.com lists]) & try again
[11:46] <B1ack0p> guiverc: thx i did but still same error
[11:47] <guiverc> :(
[11:52] <tarator> Hi guys, I have the package `openjdk-11-jdk` installed on my Ubuntu (Budgie) 18.04 machine. It should have been updated form Java 10 to java 11 already, since Java 11 is GA. But it's still on version 10.0.2. Does anybody know when it's finally upgraded to java 11? What does `java -version` say on your machine?
[11:53] <guiverc> B1ack0p: the only time I get the errors are b/c my isp's mirror is syncing (or out-of-sync), and i just ignore, and try again later (it's fixed usually in a few hours) - but you're not using a mirror so I don't know sorry
[11:55] <tarator> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/java/openjdk-11-jdk
[12:00] <B1ack0p> guiverc: thx is it related with update servers?
[12:03] <tarator> If anybody is interested in the Java 11 problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-lts/+bug/1796027
[12:05] <FreeBDSM> what the hell? I installed `smartmontools` package to get `smartctl` util but it also installed `postfix`! I then uninstalled `smartmontools` package and did `autoremove`, but `postfix` package did not get deleted!
[12:05] <FreeBDSM> what a crappy idea to bind disk tools with mail tools
[12:07] <blackflow> FreeBDSM: --no-install-recommends   and it won't
[12:08] <blackflow> smartmontools has an MTA as recommended. default MTA in Ubuntu is postfix, thus the virtual dependency.
[12:09] <blackflow> (technically it has mailx/mailutils as recommended because smartd can send mail, and THAT then pulls in the MTA)
[12:39] <Ububegin> Hi, anyone here
[12:40] <Ububegin> I have some installation issues.. anyone here can help
[12:41] <TJ-> !ask | Ububegin
[12:45] <Ububegin> kk, while installing Ubuntu 18.10 via my USB on my laptop, the installation crashed. After I tried again, there was this error. https://imgur.com/a/as7c7Xg .. t
[12:46] <TJ-> Ububegin: did you install in SecureBoot mode? Those messages are the reporting that the MOK (Machine Owners Key) executable wasn't installed (probably due to the installer failing before completion of copying the files to the EFI system partition)
[12:47] <blackflow> Ububegin: "Something has gone seriously wrong".  yeah :)   my guess is the USB thingy has errors
[12:47] <TJ-> Ububegin: did you accidentially install to the USB the installer is on?
[12:48] <Ububegin> Actually, I reinstalled the entire Ubuntu image to the USB via Rufus and tried again... but still the same error
[12:49] <Ububegin> Are u saying my USB is fcuked ? or something wrong in the windows boot drive (or something)
[12:50] <TJ-> Ububegin: well, from that photo, it tells us a) the system is using the removable-media boot path (/EFI/BOOT/....) and that something - either GRUB, or the PC firmware, is not finding the MOKManager (mmx64.efi)
[12:50] <ioria> it's a bug; did you select 'install updates' Ububegin ?
[12:50] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171
[12:50] <Ububegin> Yeah, while installing.. I choose to install all updates/drivers everything , I selected
[12:51] <Ububegin> Will downloading and installing Ubuntu 16.04 or something lower  help with this issue
[12:52] <blackflow> wait a minute. what is erroring out? the INSTALLED instance, or the installER USB?
[12:52] <ioria> Ububegin, 18.04 should be ok... are you using secure boot ?
[12:53] <blackflow> if the installER is erroring out, it has nothing to do with what you selected during installation, UNLESS you overwrote the usb thing by.... installing on itself but I'm not sure the installer would even allow that to happen
[12:53] <coconut> Hi. Is it possible to scan a windows pc with a live cd with ClamAV?
[12:53] <blackflow> coconut: yup.
[12:53] <TJ-> blackflow: looking at it in more depth, it seems like the /installed/ grub is still looking on the removable media path for the MOK
[12:54] <Ububegin> @ioria : Do I need to disable SecureBoot in windows ? and try again with Ubuntu 18.04
[12:55] <blackflow> TJ-: I can't tell that from the screenie, unless mmx64.efi is not part of the USB iso?
[12:55] <ioria> Ububegin, you said you're testing 18.10 ...
[12:55] <coconut> blackflow: it can still read all binaries then?
[12:55] <TJ-> blackflow: I was reading the bug report ioria linked to as well
[12:55] <ioria> Ububegin, the bug is with cosmic not with bionic (18.04)
[12:56] <Ububegin> @ioria : if Ubuntu 18.10 has the bug, I dont mind using one version back
[12:56] <multifractal> I have ubuntu 16.04 and Windows10. I would like to shrink the ubuntu partition and make windows larger. Can this be done safely with Gparted, will I need to run Windows/GRUB repairs or anything like that afterwards?
[12:56] <ioria> Ububegin, ok, problem solved then :þ
[12:56] <blackflow> coconut: you can access the (NTFS) filesystem and thus read all the files on it. with some fringe exceptions like NTFS streams but that's... fringe
[12:57] <coconut> blackflow: thanks man! :)
[12:57] <blackflow> TJ-: which is all possible, I was only cueing on Ububegin's statement that the installation crashed and when tried again, that error was presentd. what's unclear is what "again" means. Installation that went ok, but after reboot it errors out? or attempting again does that error when booting the usb.
[12:58] <blackflow> because " Actually, I reinstalled the entire Ubuntu image to the USB via Rufus and tried again... but still the same error"   which I'm guessing means the USB thingy shows that error on boot
[12:58] <blackflow> that part should be cleared first -- what's failing -- before support can continue ;)
[13:00] <TJ-> blackflow: ahhh, I took Ububegin's comments to mean the 1st install run crashed. or installed-image boot failed, assumed the installer might be corrupt so re-wrote it to the USB device, ran the install again, and got this error on trying to boot the installed system
[13:03] <blackflow> yeah much confuse. needs clarification :)
[13:03] <TJ-> whichever way, it seems to be due to a firmware bug - using the wrong path searching for the file that shimx64.efi is asking for
[13:04] <TJ-> solution being to put a copy of mmx64.efi in the removable media path as well as the ubuntu path
[13:04] <Ububegin> To clear up.. While installing Ubuntu, i was clicking screen by screen, then suddenly the Installation crashed.. So Ubuntu wasnt installed into the PC.. When I reboot the PC, there was this error
[13:05] <TJ-> Ububegin: And is SecureBoot enabled?
[13:06] <Ububegin> I didnt change anything in the Bios.. is it enable or disabled by default
[13:06] <TJ-> Ububegin: depends on the PC
[13:06] <Ububegin> i just bought the laptop today
[13:06] <Ububegin> kk, let me check my Bios...
[13:06] <TJ-> Ububegin: do you get this same error over multiple reboot attempts?
[13:07] <Ububegin> Yes, always the same error.. even after I rewrite the USB drive with rufus
[13:08] <ioria> Ububegin, you want to dual boot ,right ? (windows/ubuntu)
[13:08] <Ububegin> @ioria : Yup..
[13:09] <ioria> Ububegin, in the meanwhile i suggest to download 18.04.1
[13:09] <ioria> Ububegin, http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.1/
[13:09] <Ububegin> @ioria : i am downloading now as we speak
[13:09] <ioria> ok
[13:10] <TJ-> Interestingly, the 18.10 file list only has /EFI/BOOT/{grub,BOOT}x64.efi
[13:10] <Ububegin> @ioria : https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop , is this link ok, or shld I get the one , u specified
[13:10] <ioria> Ububegin, it's ok
[13:12] <Ububegin> HI guys, Secure Boot is Enabled in my Bios.. Shld I disable it ? Will there be any repercussions like the installer overwriting windows etc
[13:13] <ioria> Ububegin, if you face the same issue, yes, maybe you want to try to disable it
[13:14] <blackflow> Ububegin: ah I think I see what it is now. you were installing, it crashed, then on reboot..... it actually booted from the disk, and not the USB thingy, because the (partial) bootloader was there. you need to force USB boot from thebios menu
[13:18] <TJ-> I see what is going. PC's EFI is starting shimx64.efi, which has a check_mok_request() which checks NVRAM variables for any Mok* names (which would have been set during the failed install run). If those variables are found it does "efi_status = start_image(image_handle, MOK_MANAGER);" - which fails for the installer ISO images with  "perror(L"Failed to start MokManager: %r\n", efi_status);"
[13:21] <Ububegin> blackflow : actually, I booted from the USB, and still had this error
[13:21] <Ububegin> TJ- : Do you have any solution ?
[13:21] <Ububegin> or will trying ubuntu 18.04 fix all this... i am still downling and try with that
[13:28] <TJ-> Ububegin: I'm trying to think of one!
[13:28] <TJ-> Ububegin: try 18.04 but I suspect it would fail in the same way
[13:29] <TJ-> Ububegin: I don't have both the installer ISOs to hand to check right now
[13:30] <adikwok> dear seniors,
[13:30] <adikwok> please help, how to load selective apps to be installed in preload boot,
[13:30] <adikwok> for faster loadig when i click the icon app,
[13:30] <adikwok>
[13:30] <adikwok> i need, libreoffice, thunderbird, to be loaded faster in the first icon click ..
[13:30] <adikwok> i am using ubuntu 18.04.1, acer 4315, intel celeron 1,73ghz, 80gb hdd.
[13:30] <adikwok> now it took around 12 - 15 second to be loaded.
[13:32] <TJ-> Ububegin: I've added a comment about the recovery problem to bug #1798171
[13:33] <TJ-> adikwok: 15 seconds isn't a long time
[13:34] <adikwok> TJ-: it felt like take longer time, than i used to use excel in windows with readyboost 32gb
[13:35] <adikwok> TJ-: now i only use ubuntu lxde, .no windows no more.
[13:37] <TJ-> Ububegin: the only way around it right now is to copy the mmx64.efi into the USB EFI System Partition before trying to boot from it
[13:38] <adikwok> TJ-: yes you are right, .. i can accept it as fast. since when i click libreoffice again, it took only 1-3 second to be loaded, .. thank you for your reminding.
[13:38] <TJ-> adikwok: you might be able to influence the "readahead" tool to pre-load those applications and their libraries into the page cache
[13:40] <adikwok> TJ-: how to use that 'readahead'?
[13:40] <TJ-> !info ureadahead | adikwok
[13:41] <TJ-> adikwok: see "man ureadahead"
[13:42] <adikwok> TJ-: i have not understand the "man output" .. writen like blah [options]..<command>
[13:43] <JimBuntu> adikwok, Maybe this will help? https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-ureadahead/
[13:44] <adikwok> TJ-: "man ureadahead"
[13:44] <adikwok> SYNOPSIS
[13:44] <adikwok>        ureadahead [OPTIONS]...  [PACK]
[13:44] <TJ-> I'm not seeing any easy way to influence ureadahead, unless youu start it, run the programs, then stop it. That seems to be how it works on boot
[13:47] <adikwok> TJ-: ok, im trying, start ureadahead, run the programs i need to be loaded faster, then stop readahead.
[13:48] <TJ-> adikwok: you'd need to use the "--timeout=" option I think
[13:54] <adikwok> TJ-: im trying to understand the writen in "man ureadahead" is it gonna be:
[13:54] <adikwok> ureadahead --timeout=60
[13:54] <adikwok> then i reboot, wait boot completed, login, open libreoffice, open thunderbird, open firefox, open chrome, open other programs that needed, in 60 seconds after login?
[13:56] <adikwok> TJ-: where must i type this command: ureadahead --timeout=60
[13:56] <adikwok> in the lxterminal screen?
[14:02] <r007s> hi all.. i cant get android to be recognized on lsusb (linux), i try the udev rules but no success.. there is anything that i could be missing?
[14:03] <TJ-> r007s: if 'lsusb' does not report the device, then it hasn't connected
[14:05] <r007s> TJ-, thats strange part... the devices start charging.. but no usb sign..
[14:06] <TJ-> r007s: well, power rails connect, but the data lines may not. You know some USB cables for 'phones only are for charging and don't have the data lines connected?
[14:06] <TJ-> r007s: that used to a be a problem many years ago but I've not seen it with recent cables
[14:07] <r007s> TJ-, i didn't no that =).. but the cable is new..
[14:12] <TJ-> r007s: hmmm, maybe the phone needs to be put into data mode? I know some Android devices by default only do charging. Have you checked the device's notifications ?
[14:13] <r007s> TJ-, it only display charge notification... nothing about data transfer or similar
[14:14] <TJ-> r007s: I'm not sure then, but for Linux, if a device connects it will be reported by lsusb. You could check for errors in the kernel log, e.g. "dmesg -w" and then connect the device. You should see the device being recognised
[14:15] <JimBuntu> r007s, Although it was an old problem, it's still a problem... ALSO, in the device, see what the USB mode is via notifications, you may need to change it from 'Charge Only'
[14:15] <roracle> hey guys, just got 18.04 LTS installed.  I was reading up and discovered that binary files can no longer be run from the file manager, so is there another way of doing this?  Trying to launch ioquake3
[14:16] <roracle> I know how to do it from the command line, but it was so much easier doing it from the file manager
[14:17] <JimBuntu> !cookie TJ-  for this channel and others, we thank you
[14:17] <JimBuntu> !cookie | TJ-  for this channel and others, we thank you
[14:20] <r007s> JimBuntu, it only shows charge notifications...
[14:22] <JimBuntu> r007s, If you tap on the notification, you may be able to change the connection type
[14:28] <roracle> any help guys?  I just need to make a link I can click on to start this program, so any info would help
[14:28] <spaghetticode> hi
[14:28] <spaghetticode> I'm wondering if there is a driver available for the Elecom Deft Pro trackball?
[14:29] <TJ-> roracle: that sounds like you need to create a .desktop file, and put it in $HOME/.local/share/applications/ - I thought most sane GUI file-managers could do that for you
[14:29] <roracle> TJ-: i already did that, but it didn't do anything.  and no, this one doesn't allow it, i had to create my own .desktop file
[14:29] <spaghetticode> I'm using it at present, it has basic functionality, as well as the back and forward buttons, but I can't configure the other function buttons on the trackball.
[14:30] <roracle> it's ioquake3, and i have it installed in /home/roracle/ioquake3.  they only release binary files, so there's no way it's a simple install like most things would be
[14:30] <TJ-> roracle: which file-manager are you using?
[14:31] <roracle> default for 18.04
[14:31] <roracle> i'm guessing nautilus?
[14:31] <roracle> if i doubleclick the .desktop icon, it says it has an error trying to launch it
[14:32] <roracle> check this link out: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/nautilus-remove-ability-launch-binaries-apps
[14:32] <TJ-> ahh; I use Xubuntu, and in Thunar, when I bring up the Properties dialog for a file, it has a Permissions tab, which has a checkbox "Allow this file to run as a program"
[14:33] <roracle> well there's still the checkbox that says "Allow executing file as a program" and i have that checked, but it just doesn't allow it
[14:34] <TJ-> roracle: Ahhh, Gnome! I've not touched that in years
[14:34] <roracle> Linux is getting harder and harder to use :'(
[14:34] <roracle> i mean it used to be easier and easier, now it's all concertized it seems...and devs are following suit
[14:34] <roracle> corportized*
[14:35] <TJ-> roracle: that articles says the change was reverted since the article was published; is that commit definitely in Ubuntu?
[14:35] <roracle> i don't think so, otherwise i wouldn't be having this issue, i'm guessing?
[14:35] <roracle> because i can't do exactly what it says i can't do
[14:35] <TJ-> roracle: For a long time Gnome project devs seem to have had the attitude "we know best" and "user cannot have choice"
[14:36] <roracle> yeah, i might switch over to KDE...
[14:36] <roracle> seriously though, Mint was always a good option, too, but they don't offer KDE flavor officially anymore, so it's gone all goofy...
[14:37] <roracle> i guess cinnamon isn't that bad though
[14:39] <roracle> i mean, what do you guys suggest for a "traditional" linux distro?  Ubuntu has gone by the wayside, and i thought it was 18.10 alone, but having installed 18.04 now, I see it's the entirety of the project
[14:41] <roracle> i tried Manjaro, too...but it has it's own issues, being Arch based, which isn't supported by everyone making software for Linux, so even though it's amazing, it's hard to get support for
[14:41] <TJ-> roracle: just install a file-manager that doesn't limit you, there are plenty of them
[14:43] <roracle> yeah, i just wanna make sure everything works fine, because i'm running into problems compiling with mono, and other stuff... it's just difficult because things used to work smoothly
[14:43] <roracle> i haven't had to do this must customizing since the early 2000's in a linux system
[14:44] <roracle> at some point it seemed things were getting streamlined, but now it's back to "basics"
[15:17] <ioria> TJ-, did you get any feedback about Ububegin 's issue ?
[15:17] <TJ-> ioria: no
[15:17] <ioria> TJ-, ok, tx
[15:18] <TJ-> ioria: I realised it's a form of DoS so going to discuss it with the security team
[15:18] <Ububegin> ioria : When I used Ubuntu 18.04, it was smooth... Now I am in Ubuntu..  :D
[15:18] <ioria> TJ-, Ububegin   good to know
[15:18] <TJ-> ioria: basically, I think there needs to be an additional MokWorked=true type variable added by MokManager itself after it has loaded at least once
[15:18] <mircx1> Hey i need please help i will try find install mbedtls in ubuntu but i not get this someone can give to me link for it?
[15:19] <ioria> TJ-, yeah, probably
[15:19] <TJ-> !info libmbedtls10  | mircx1
[15:20] <mircx1> i try ti TJ but not work in ubuntu 14
[15:20] <TJ-> !info libmbedtls10 trusty
[15:20] <TJ-> !info libmbedtls9 trusty
[15:22] <TJ-> !info polarssl trusty | mircx1 it was renamed from
[15:22] <TJ-> !info libpolarssl5 trusty | mircx1 it was renamed from
[15:23] <Ububegin> i just restarted the laptop after some updates.. Now it is showing a blue with "Perform MOK management"  https://imgur.com/a/DCXEQwR .. Which option shld i choose ?
[15:23] <TJ-> I wish ubottu would report source packages as well as binaries
[15:24] <Ububegin> I cud do "Continue boot"... But this blue screens pops up everytime..
[15:24] <elias_a> mircx1: Is Ubuntu 14 still supported? :O
[15:24] <ioria> Ububegin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[15:25] <TJ-> Ububegin: it seems you've got SecureBoot enabled and so you need to enroll your own signing key, in order to be able to sign and be able to load out-of-tree proprietary kernel modules like nvidia and some network modules
[15:26] <Ububegin> ioria : Thanks for the link.. will use this method "Method 3 - Disable Secure Boot from BIOS"
[15:30] <Ububegin> Issues has been fixed... thanks iora and TJ for saving me from a miserable long day..
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:33] <ioria> Ububegin, you're welcm
[15:51] <younder> I am finally getting CUPS. The plug and play nature of Ubuntu's print system meant that I never really had to until I bought a really old CAD printer and had to set it up manually.
[15:52] <younder> HP DeskJet 1055CM is now operational..
[16:01] <Mixxit> so confused guys, why is my interfaces file empty
[16:01] <Mixxit> (ubuntu server 18)
[16:02] <younder> look in interfaces.d it has been split up
[16:02] <Mixxit> where is that
[16:03] <blackflow> Mixxit: because ifupdown is no longer the default way to configure the network, as of 17.10 iirc. there's now netplan which confiugres a backend: systemd-networkd (server) or NetworkManager (desktop)
[16:04] <Mixxit> oh nooo
[16:04] <blackflow> !netplan
[16:05] <blackflow> Mixxit: keyword: default. meaning you can reinstall ifupdown and disable netplan (by removing any config in /etc/netplan/ directory)
[16:05] <Mixxit> my /etc/netplan folder is empty
[16:06] <blackflow> Mixxit: do you have an explicitly set networkd unit then? look under /etc/systemd/network/
[16:06] <Mixxit> 50-default.network  50-public-interface.link
[16:06] <blackflow> there you go
[16:07] <Mixxit> i put my settings in there?
[16:07] <blackflow> is that a hosted server? something your hostin company defined like that?
[16:07] <Mixxit> looks like they did yeah
[16:07] <Mixxit> comment at the top '# It was created by the OVH installer, please be careful with modifications.'
[16:07] <blackflow> what do you want to change?
[16:07] <Mixxit> i added a second ip
[16:07] <Mixxit> to the device and want to configure it
[16:07] <blackflow> Mixxit: right, i'm guessing you need an Address=   stanza in the .network unit
[16:08] <Mixxit> ok great!
[16:08] <samlamamma> I'm installing Kubuntu right now and am setting up my partitions. I've got a 512GB disk and I'll do two partitions (1 mount point / 1 mount point home/). I'm not sure how large I should let my root be
[16:08] <Mixxit> thanks so much guys
[16:09] <samlamamma> If I err on the conservative side and leave some space like ROOT FREE HOME then can I resize my partitions later if I need more for ROOT or HOME?
[16:09] <blackflow> Mixxit: see the systemd.network(5) manpage for details on the unit
[16:11] <blackflow> samlamamma: no. if you leave free space like that, then you can only grow the partition/fs _before_ it. unless you use something like LVM
[16:12] <samlamamma> blackflow: Alright, would you just go for a 50/50 split between root and home?
[16:12] <blackflow> but then you can grow it only up to free space left, there's no guarantee you wouldn't need more.   typically I would not go below 20G for a "regular" desktop. If you plan on playing Steam games, know that modern games are in tens of GB in size.
[16:13] <blackflow> samlamamma: well if you ask _me_, I am using ZFS which is a pooled fs, meaning I don't have to think about partition sizes.  btrfs is also pooled, so I'd recommend you go with one of those two.
[16:14] <sweb> i cant add https apt ng cache accoutering the docs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/McsHFkFSCX/
[16:15] <samlamamma> blackflow: I've heard of ZFS. I'll probably go with ext4, not for technical reasons but for support reasons (more people use ext4 so I can get more help w/o consulting documentation). Thank you for being accomodating!
[16:18] <blackflow> sweb: why don't you define apt proxy instead. https://wiki.debian.org/AptConf
[16:19] <sweb> blackflow: as you can see ~500Mb package i need cache mechanism over https
[16:19] <blackflow> sweb: yeah and? you can configure apt to use http proxy, no need to hack the URL
[16:23] <Mixxit> so i create two new files for the enp2s0 interface 50-failover-interface.link and 50-failover.network and adjusted all the settings but systemctl restart systemd-networkd doesnt show the second interface
[16:23] <Mixxit> when i do ifconfig
[16:23] <blackflow> Mixxit: ifconfig is deprecated and doesn't understand some modern features. use `ip`
[16:24] <Mixxit> 3: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
[16:24] <blackflow> and btw... not sure you're doing it right, if I understand you correctly. TWO files for one interface (enp2s0)?
[16:24] <blackflow> if you want to add the second IPv4, you just add another Address= entry under [network] in the one .network unit file
[16:24] <blackflow> s/in the one/in the existing/
[16:25] <Mixxit> but isnt it a different mac address and device
[16:25] <Mixxit> i filled the other mac in the other files i made
[16:25] <blackflow> Mixxit: not unles you actually have another NIC with another MAC
[16:25] <Mixxit> and the other gateways etc
[16:25] <Mixxit> i do have another mac but im not sure if i have another nic
[16:26] <blackflow> how about we avoid the XY problem and you start from the beginning, what exactly you want to achieve.
[16:26] <Mixxit> i want to configure enp2s0 but my interfaces file is empty
[16:26] <blackflow> you can't have two MACs for the same NIC unless you resort to virtual nics bridged over one physical NIC
[16:27] <blackflow> Mixxit: right, interfaces is no longer used. OVH prepared the /etc/systemd/network/....  unit files directly (not even using netplan)
[16:27] <Mixxit> on my other server just have eth0 and eth1 with their associated settings
[16:28] <aljoni> How can I change the hostname of a system running "Ubuntu Server 18.04.1".  I've tried changing the value of "/etc/hostname", running the "hostnamectl" and "hostname" commands but after rebooting the name is not what I set it to and the value in "/etc/hostname" is reset back to what it was before changing it.
[16:28] <blackflow> Mixxit: that's two network interfaces. btw, you can still use ethX naming if you really want.
[16:28] <Mixxit> two items listed under lshw -C network
[16:28] <Mixxit> with different 'serial'
[16:29] <Mixxit> ohhhh!
[16:29] <ellyacht> cd ~/.profile is returning -bash: /root/.profile: Permission Denied
[16:29] <Mixxit> thats weird
[16:29] <Mixxit> i seem to have different mac than i was expected on enp2s0
[16:29] <aljoni> ellyacht: ".profile" is a file not a directory?
[16:30] <SineDeviance> hi all. i am running a system based on ubuntu 18.10. can someone please recommend a good GTK music player that isn't rhythmbox? I wanted exaile, but it seems they have not packaged it for 18.10 yet
[16:30] <ellyacht> I need to add adb and fastboot to my PATH. '# add Android SDK Platform tools to path
[16:30] <lambdafunk> aljoni: First edit /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg and set the parameter "preserve_hostname" from "false" to "true" and then edit /etc/hostname.
[16:31] <aljoni> lambdafunk: Thanks.
[16:33] <aljoni> That fixed it, thanks.  Was starting to pull my hair out with it resetting itself.
[16:33] <blackflow> why are you even using cloud init
[16:33] <Mixxit> ok i think i was just getting mixed up backflow, they have a customer management portal where you can generate virtual macs, i removed the virtual mac and added a secondary ip to the main interface as you suggested and its all working now
[16:33] <transfusion> ellyacht: you should do something like export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/Android/Sdk/platform-tools
[16:33] <blackflow> that's the cause of the problem in the first place
[16:34] <transfusion> ellyacht: adding commands to .profile or .bash_profile will make them run on shell startup
[16:34] <OerHeks> SineDeviance, tons of good managers, i like clementine, with build-in equaliser, and fast handling large music collections  https://fossbytes.com/best-linux-music-players-ubuntu/
[16:34] <aljoni> blackflow: I just want through the setup normally: enter disk info, network, user details, and installed that way using the normal installer from ubuntu.com.
[16:34] <blackflow> Mixxit: great :)
[16:34] <aljoni> went through*
[16:34] <Mixxit> thanks again for your help i would have never found this new configuration hehe
[16:35] <Mixxit> have a great weekend!
[16:35] <SineDeviance> OerHeks: forgot about clementine. thanks :D
[16:35] <blackflow> aljoni: well that's the thing, th default server iso installs quite  variety of nonsense. cloud init is very specialized tool for very specialized tasks
[16:37] <SineDeviance> OerHeks: large collection is the main reason, it's taking rhythmbox forever to scan my collection over the network. foobar2000 in windows does it in like two minutes.
[16:37] <ellyacht> what is the command to take ownership of a directory again? chown...
[16:37] <SineDeviance> ellyacht: chown -R
[16:38] <SineDeviance> recursive
[16:39] <OerHeks> SineDeviance, that would be my main reason, 90k+ songs, and it gives alot of plugins for services and such,have fun
[16:42] <SineDeviance> OerHeks: i don't have that many, it's more like 13,000. but half of them are 24-bit FLAC and I guess rhythmbox takes a while
[16:43] <ellyacht> man I keep getting -bash: /root/.profile: Permission Denied
[16:44] <ellyacht> im trying to follow this tutorial https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/dumpling/build but so far no good
[16:59] <Lantizia> Anyone here use cdrdao?  I'm assuming any "Q sub-channels with CRC errors" messages just mean any scratches have been worked around and read correctly?
[17:54] <fuxaches> Hello, I'm trying to figure out why this new ubuntu machine isn't cooperating with postfix to send form mail - anybody up for helping a noob?
[17:55] <acos> Hi
[17:57] <ioria> fuxaches, what's the problem exactly ?
[17:57] <fuxaches> Just wanting to use isp smtp to send form mail. I have 2 other ubuntu machines with it working. Best I can tell, this one is setup the same way.
[17:58] <fuxaches> loria. The mail bounces and never sends - according to the log...
[17:58] <fuxaches> loria<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=mail.shaw.ca[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25, delay=1.1, delays=0.07/0.01/1/0.03, dsn=5.1.0, status=bounced (host mail.shaw.ca[<IP_ADDRESS>] said: 550 5.1.0 <terry-xps-8500.shawmail.ed.shawcable.net> domain rejected (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[17:59] <ioria> fuxaches, well, if you just want to send an email with your isp account,postfix is overkilling
[17:59] <fuxaches> okay, I'm listening...
[18:00] <ioria> fuxaches, i suggest ssmtp ; but if you reconfigure postfix as'Satellite' mode it should  work out of the box iirc
[18:00] <ioria> !info ssmtp
[18:01] <fuxaches> satellite instead of internet + smarthost?
[18:01] <ioria> fuxaches, yes
[18:02] <fuxaches> I will give it a try - thank you...
[18:02] <ioria> fuxaches, https://blog.eitchnet.ch/archives/286   (a bit old thou)
[18:05] <TJ-> fuxaches: "terry-xps-8500.shawmail.ed.shawcable.net> domain rejected "
[18:05] <Sven_vB> What's wrong with my freshly debootstrapped Ubuntu bionic? file permissions seem correct but still, "Couldn't create temporary file /tmp/apt.conf.skKQLr for passing config to apt-key" https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ecd03adf
[18:06] <TJ-> Sven_vB: is there a /tmp/ directory in the chroot?
[18:06] <fuxaches> TJ-: Yeah, I know, but the same setup on two other ubuntu boxes works fine...
[18:07] <TJ-> fuxaches: the domain is wrong; I'll bet the others don't send that string
[18:07] <Sven_vB> TJ-, yes, "ls -dFl /tmp" -> "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 24 17:55 /tmp/"
[18:07] <TJ-> fuxaches: it needs to be in the format<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:07] <TJ-> Sven_vB: apt drops to the user _apt so it won't have Write permission
[18:08] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks!
[18:08] <fuxaches> loria: I tried satellite but no go... When I purged and re-installed postfix using satellite, I notice a couple of messages during the install:
[18:08] <fuxaches> 1.) mailname is not a fully qualified domain name.  Not changing /etc/mailname.
[18:08] <fuxaches> 2.)/etc/aliases exists, but does not have a root alias.
[18:08] <TJ-> fuxaches: (1) is what I've just pointed out; reconfigure the package and set it correctly
[18:09] <ioria> fuxaches, sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[18:09] <fuxaches> TJ-: But I'm just using ubuntu desktop and the ISP's smtp to send, why all that crap?
[18:09] <TJ-> fuxaches: I assume you have an email address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[18:09] <fuxaches> no its<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:10] <fuxaches> but if you look at my account info on irc you'll see the account translates to the last bit
[18:10] <TJ-> fuxaches: usually the ISP email servers will refuse to accept outgoing email if the SMTP envelope is not set to the email address they've assigned you.
[18:11] <ioria> clearly
[18:11] <TJ-> fuxaches: test it with a manual telnet session
[18:11] <fuxaches> okay I'll run the re-configure utility and ill ask per prompt
[18:11] <TJ-> fuxaches: or look at how your other PCs are configured
[18:12] <fuxaches> I did and they seem to be configured exactly the same... That's why I severely puzzled
[18:12] <fuxaches> all machines run 18.04.1
[18:12] <jeffrey_f> where can I find a turnkey multi-OS pxe server
[18:12] <jeffrey_f> for Virtualbox
[18:13] <fuxaches> difference is this one was installed fresh to 18.04.1 and the other 2 have upgrade from previous versions
[18:13] <TJ-> fuxaches: is this PC trying to send mail through a VPN ?
[18:13] <fuxaches> TJ-: no
[18:13] <fuxaches> kay - reconfigure - 1st prompt i am going to choose satellite
[18:13] <TJ-> fuxaches: and what is the ISP mail server set to? mail.shawcable.net ?
[18:14] <fuxaches> mail.shaw.ca
[18:14] <fuxaches> as long as you're on their network - no credentials needed
[18:14] <fuxaches> I have tried port 587 and same issue and the other 2 are setup as standard port 25 anyways
[18:15] <fuxaches> so what do you suggest for system main name - I have always just left it as the computer name terry-XPS-8500
[18:16] <fuxaches> but i am figuring this is where the problem is
[18:17] <TJ-> fuxaches: try a telnet session. manually send the info. As I said, the MAIL FROM address is bad syntax, it should be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:17] <TJ-> fuxaches: here's how to do a manual SMTP session using telnet: https://www.port25.com/how-to-check-an-smtp-connection-with-a-manual-telnet-session-2/
[18:18] <ioria> fuxaches, if you use postfix as a forwarder, your system main name it's not relevant ; just your smtp server, email address and password
[18:19] <fuxaches> no need for password because if you're on the shaw network no crednetials are needed
[18:20] <fuxaches> so would i put in ed.shawcable.net or shaw.ca ?
[18:21] <fuxaches> email addresses are @shaw.ca and my ping name is *********.ed.shawcable.net
[18:21] <TJ-> fuxaches: it may not matter; the issue is the MTA was sending a bad MAIL FROM
[18:22] <TJ-> fuxaches: if you're on their network they may accept any<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:22] <fuxaches> kay, that I don't understand...
[18:22] <fuxaches> and that seems correct, from looking at the logs on the other machines that work
[18:23] <fuxaches> seems to use a big alpha<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and works, but not on this machine
[18:23] <TJ-> fuxaches: what is generating the emails that postfix is trying to deliver?
[18:24] <tgm4883> fuxaches: the from address would be coming from the application that is sending the emails
[18:24] <fuxaches> you mean my website mail form?
[18:24] <TJ-> tgm4883: not always; postfix allows it to be set in the config
[18:25] <ioria> fuxaches, /var/log/mail.log and  /var/log/mail.err might help
[18:25] <fuxaches> loria: I have been looking there and it makes me more confused
[18:25] <tgm4883> TJ-: do we have postfix config pastebins somewhere?
[18:27] <TJ-> fuxaches: yes; there are several ways the SMTP envelope From: field can be set; if the sender is using something like "sendmail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or it could be set in postfix config via the canonical table
[18:27] <TJ-> tgm4883: not so far :)
[18:28] <fuxaches> TJ-: is there a way to go change that?
[18:28] <fuxaches> Because it is something wonky like that. There must be a difference thr way this machine sees itself
[18:29] <TJ-> fuxaches: what code is the web-site using to send the email? If it is php, is the email config correct?
[18:30] <fuxaches> TJ-: PHP, yes. I have never had to modify the php.ini file to do this, but I changed the sendmail path in case, but same issue.
[18:30] <blackflow> fuxaches: that error sounds like something the recipient server should solve
[18:30] <TJ-> fuxaches: what is the current sendmail path? the default is "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i"
[18:31] <fuxaches> TJ-: yes that is the path
[18:31] <fuxaches> well the recipient server would be shaw isp
[18:31] <blackflow> fuxaches: the one you originally posted. according to that log your server is queuing, connecting to, issuing SMTP commands, but the recipient server is rejecting.
[18:32] <TJ-> fuxaches: OK, are you able to show us one of the failed emails? if sendmail isn't given the -f option, it sets the SMTP envelope with the email's From: field
[18:32] <fuxaches> blackflow: I know, yet I have two computers with the same postfix configuration working correctly...
[18:32] <TJ-> fuxaches: if the envelope is correct, or not attached, and the From: field in the header is correct, then we will know it is a postfix misconfiguration
[18:33] <fuxaches> I can show you the log of when I fill out and send the form mail from the mail.log
[18:33] <blackflow> fuxaches: right, so it's on the recipient side to correct things. you said your network was allowed without credentials? I guess this server that's being rejected is not on the white list
[18:33] <blackflow> (mynetworks, in postfix config speak)
[18:33] <TJ-> blackflow: it is the ISP SMTP relay that is refusing the delivery from fuxaches's postfix, due to malformed SMTP MAIL FROM
[18:34] <fuxaches> myhostname: terry-XPS-8500.ed.shawcable.net
[18:34] <blackflow> TJ-: malformed how?
[18:34] <fuxaches> yes, malformed seems right. I need to correct it
[18:35] <TJ-> bounced (host mail.shaw.ca[<IP_ADDRESS>] said: 550 5.1.0 <terry-xps-8500.shawmail.ed.shawcable.net> domain rejected (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[18:35] <blackflow> TJ-:  that says nothing about MAIL FROM being malformed
[18:35] <TJ-> MAIL FROM<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is expected, there is no user@ in <terry-xps-8500.shawmail.ed.shawcable.net>
[18:35] <blackflow> note that postfix checks are done after RCPT TO. "mailformed" MAIL FROM could also be due to the domain being blacklisted.
[18:36] <blackflow> TJ-: there shouldn't be in that error message. DOMAIN rejected, and the domain is listed
[18:36] <fuxaches> blackflow: if it wer blacklisted you would think the two other machines i have here would not work neither - right?
[18:36] <blackflow> fuxaches: not necessarily
[18:36] <fuxaches> hmmm, okay.
[18:37] <blackflow> the message here could be red herring depending on how the recipient is configured to run checks
[18:37] <za1b1tsu> So I've spent some time on a macosx because of work, I like linux more, but there is something that I would like to bring to linux. The OS keys, for ctrl they preserved the readline (emacs?) shortcuts, for example 'ctrl-a' goes do the start of the line, but 'super-a' selects all. Also 'super-c', 'super-v' copy pastes everywhere. Is there a DE or WM that can help me achieve this?
[18:37] <fuxaches> sometimes when i restart the postfix service one of the mails in the queue actually fire and deliver
[18:38] <fuxaches> the recipient is me
[18:38] <blackflow> fuxaches: you can run tcpdump and observe what's in the smtp proto, unless it's encrypted but you can force it unencrypted
[18:38] <fuxaches> that form mails to me
[18:38] <blackflow> fuxaches: by "recipient" I mean the relay= in thatmessage
[18:38] <fuxaches> how do i do a tcpdump?
[18:39] <fuxaches> just tcpdump at command line
[18:39] <blackflow> ask google :)   there is also #postfix here on Freenode, folks is very helpful, but prepare all the logs and configs in advance to a pastebin
[18:39] <blackflow> at any rate, this doesn't seem like Ubuntu issue
[18:39] <fuxaches> ooops, didn't know ther was a postfix channel - sorry
[18:40] <TJ-> fuxaches:  "the shaw mail servers will reject any hostname in the smtp helo negotiation that does not have a reverse dns"
[18:40] <blackflow> the error message is different for that
[18:41] <TJ-> fuxaches: so, I'm guessing you need to set the hostname to that of your public interface
[18:41] <gavimobile> hey folks, i got myself into a little pickle. i have a ubuntu device with very little hd space. i installed a few packages using apt-get and now i have no space and cant do anything. the process didnt finish. when i try to remove the apps i installed i get the following message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem., which cannot complete either because that also ends with
[18:41] <gavimobile> or of no space
[18:41] <blackflow> it's "550 5.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname"
[18:42] <blackflow> unless that postfix is not configured to reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname  but uses some other (custom) check
[18:42] <TJ-> I'm going on a report from a shawcable customer with the same issue, who said that was the cause, when the shaw SMPT server reported "The error message indicates
[18:42] <TJ-> that the locally defined domain in the "from" address was rejected.
[18:43] <TJ-> fuxaches: see https://community.shaw.ca/thread/31249
[18:44] <blackflow> "hostname does not have a rdns" is a fallcy. rdns is for IPs not for hostnames
[18:44] <gavimobile> would appreciate any assistance
[18:44] <TJ-> fuxaches: didn't you say earler that on the working PCs the hostname shows as "S010620aa4beb86d8.ed.shawcable.net)" ?
[18:44] <blackflow> whoever wrote that has no clue what they're talking about
[18:45] <fuxaches> TJ-: in the log it's actuall an aplha numeric set devided by a "."
[18:45] <blackflow> well why don't you pastebin THAT then.
[18:45] <TJ-> fuxaches: your current public hostname is what I wrote above? is that what the other working PCs are using?
[18:45] <fuxaches> @terry-xps-8300.ed.shawcable.net for one of the other machines
[18:45] <fuxaches> makes me wonder if its a dns issue
[18:45] <TJ-> fuxaches: right, there's an "@" symbol
[18:46] <fuxaches> the other machines are manually set and this one is using dhcp
[18:46] <TJ-> fuxaches: anyhow, this isn't an Ubuntu issue. as blackflow said you need to ask in #postfix
[18:46] <fuxaches><EMAIL_ADDRESS>this one works
[18:46] <tgm4883> gavimobile: what sort of partitioning do you have setup?
[18:47] <fuxaches> terry-xps-8500  gives the error i supplied from the log
[18:47] <tgm4883> fuxaches
[18:47] <fuxaches> lol
[18:47] <tgm4883> fuxaches: I think you'll need to supply both the config and the actual log file
[18:48] <fuxaches> give me a few for that. I have to go fond my pastebin crap
[18:48] <tgm4883> ideally, the config for both a working server and a non-working server
[18:48] <gavimobile> tgm4883: not sure how to answer your question. would df -h be the answer?
[18:48] <tgm4883> gavimobile: yea
[18:49] <gavimobile> tgm4883: https://pastebin.com/tSvF5MR7
[18:49] <tgm4883> wow you're right, that is pretty limited space
[18:50] <tgm4883> I wonder if there's some old kernel stuff we can get rid of
[18:50] <gavimobile> tgm4883: or cache
[18:50] <gavimobile> temp files
[18:51] <TJ-> gavimobile: obvious one is to clear /var/cache/apt with "apt-get clean"
[18:51] <tgm4883> TJ-: +1
[18:51] <gavimobile> TJ-: there is nothing in there
[18:51] <TJ-> gavimobile: the other is to check how much space /var/log/ is using: "du -sh -d 1 /var/log"
[18:51] <gavimobile> i ran apt-get clean also
[18:51] <tgm4883> gavimobile: 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image' although I'm doubful there's any old ones there
[18:52] <gavimobile> du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=1
[18:52] <TJ-> if tmpfs is only 30M that suggests there isn't a lot of RAM either
[18:52] <gavimobile> TJ- is that a typo
[18:52] <TJ-> gavimobile: oh, of course, drop the -d
[18:52] <gavimobile> TJ-: and leave the 1?
[18:52] <TJ-> gavimobile: drop the "-d 1"
[18:52] <gavimobile> k
[18:53] <gavimobile> 1.5M    /var/log
[18:53] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, not much there then
[18:53] <TJ-> gavimobile: what was the last package you installed that hit this
[18:53] <tgm4883> gavimobile: out of curiosity, is this a vacuum?
[18:53] <gavimobile>  /var/log/apt/history.log says that i attempted to intall  apt-get install aptitude synaptic wajig dpkg-dev apt-doc python-apt
[18:53] <gavimobile> tgm4883: yes
[18:53] <ioria> guess an arm device
[18:53] <gavimobile> lol
[18:53] <tgm4883> gavimobile: nice
[18:54] <gavimobile> how did you know
[18:54] <tgm4883> your hostname is rockrobo
[18:54] <jurgentje> Heya, I'm really happy with the KDE connect integration with Android... but I keep getting "Configure..." when right clicking on the phone icon. I would like to try sending an SMS
[18:54] <gavimobile> ahh, that gave it away
[18:54] <gavimobile>  apt-get install aptitude synaptic wajig dpkg-dev apt-doc python-apt was the last command that worked before i screwed it up
[18:55] <TJ-> gavimobile: have you been able to use "dpkg --remove <package>" on anything, or does that just trigger the configure warning
[18:55] <gavimobile> it got full during the install
[18:55] <gavimobile> TJ-: im not sure how. doesnt package represent a specific package name/
[18:55] <gavimobile> where would i find them?
[18:55] <TJ-> gavimobile: try this: "dpkg -r aptitude"
[18:56] <blackflow> fuxaches: please pop into #postfix, and pastebin:  1) the test email your sending (complete with headers, best use sendmail for that),  2) logs during the smtp event,   3) postconf -n
[18:56] <gavimobile> TJ-: dpkg: error: failed to write status database record about 'libpolkit-gobject-1-0:armhf' to '/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[18:56] <tgm4883> gavimobile: assuming this has internet access, 'dpkg -l | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:56] <TJ-> gavimobile: thought so, OK we have to get brutal :)
[18:56] <gavimobile> TJ-: http://termbin.com/om2y this was the output
[18:57] <gavimobile> if i ran apt-get install aptitude synaptic wajig dpkg-dev apt-doc python-apt, where is ubuntu storing the packages?
[18:58] <gavimobile> also, is it in the middle of a job? can i cancel the job?
[18:58] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/{aptitude,synaptic}.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[18:58] <gavimobile> oh snap, he didnt just say that :-D
[18:59] <TJ-> gavimobile: that ^^^^ should give you enough headroom to get things in order
[18:59] <gavimobile> cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/synaptic.list: No such file or directory
[18:59] <gavimobile> let me double check the directory
[18:59] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, try it again with just aptitude
[18:59] <gavimobile> maybe oyu have a type-o
[18:59] <gavimobile> but dont i need aptitude?
[18:59] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/aptitude.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[18:59] <TJ-> gavimobile: we're just trying to free enough space for the tools to be able to operate
[19:00] <TJ-> gavimobile: no, aptitude is optional
[19:00] <gavimobile> isnt aptitude apt?
[19:00] <TJ-> gavimobile: for package management all that is required is dpkg and apt
[19:00] <gavimobile> TJ-: this command worked but outputted nothing
[19:01] <TJ-> gavimobile: no it won't; but you may have a little space now. try "df -h /" again
[19:01] <gavimobile> i did, same thing
[19:01] <TJ-> gavimobile: if not enough, then we need to attack those other packages
[19:01] <gavimobile> /dev/root       494M  492M     0 100% /
[19:01] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/dpkg-dev.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[19:02] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/apt-doc.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[19:02] <gavimobile> let me tell you what is the ls -l of /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[19:02] <TJ-> gavimobile: some of these commands may fail if the packages were not installed, so just ignore the error and move on
[19:02] <gavimobile> nevemrind, there are a bunch
[19:02] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/wajig.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[19:03] <TJ-> gavimobile: then "df -s /"
[19:03] <TJ-> grrr
[19:03] <TJ-> gavimobile: then "df  /"
[19:03] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>58         0 100% /
[19:03] <gavimobile> but the 3 lines above worked with no output
[19:04] <TJ-> so there is 4MB free :)
[19:04] <gavimobile> :-)
[19:04] <gavimobile> sweet
[19:04] <gavimobile> is that enough to install apt-undo
[19:04] <TJ-> gavimobile: try "dpkg -r wajig"
[19:04] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>68         0 100% /
[19:04] <TJ-> gavimobile: if we've deleted the files we need to tell dpkg the packages need to be gone, too
[19:04] <gavimobile> it did something
[19:05] <TJ-> gavimobile: "dpkg -r aptitude"
[19:05] <TJ-> gavimobile: same for each of apt-doc synaptic
[19:05] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>55         0 100% /
[19:05] <fuxaches> tgm4883: here's the stuff -  https://pastebin.com/cTg4vjTp
[19:06] <TJ-> gavimobile: after that, then you may be able to get the tools to work: "apt-get --fix-broken install"
[19:07] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>20         0 100% /
[19:07] <gavimobile> what will that do?
[19:07] <gavimobile> apt-get --fix-broken install
[19:07] <gavimobile> i dont want to install anything else. i want to consintrate on uninstalling
[19:08] <gavimobile> Need to get 854 kB of archives.
[19:08] <gavimobile> After this operation, 2212 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[19:08] <gavimobile> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[19:08] <gavimobile>  using apt-get --fix-broken install
[19:09] <fuxaches> TJ-: I posted this in #postfix, but if you're interested -   https://pastebin.com/cTg4vjTp
[19:10] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, say no
[19:11] <TJ-> gavimobile: that tried to install packagse due to dependencies. try "dpkg --configure -a" to clean up to begin with
[19:11] <gavimobile> ok, but this will also need space
[19:12] <TJ-> gavimobile: yes, but we're trying to get the system back into a sane state
[19:12] <gavimobile> failed
[19:12] <gavimobile> no hd space left
[19:12] <TJ-> once we've done that we can selective find and remove other packages. E.g. "apt autoremove" may remove packages that synaptic/aptitude brought in
[19:12] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>64         0 100% /
[19:12] <TJ-> gavimobile: are you able to pastebin the output from that failed command ?
[19:13] <gavimobile> sure
[19:14] <gavimobile> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/jRPffHKW
[19:16] <TJ-> gavimobile: eeek! you've tried to install so much ... going to have to take out the big packages
[19:16] <gavimobile> still there or am i disconnected?
[19:16] <gavimobile> ignore that
[19:18] <TJ-> gavimobile: I think we try to take out gcc-4.8 first, since that installed size is around 14MB
[19:19] <TJ-> gavimobile: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8.list | while read file; do [ -f $file ] && rm $file; done"
[19:20] <TJ-> gavimobile: then try "dpkg --remove build-essential" and "dpkg --remove dpkg-dev"
[19:21] <gavimobile> the second one i had to use purge instead of remove
[19:21] <gavimobile> df ./
[19:22] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>35         0 100% /
[19:22] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, looking better
[19:22] <gavimobile> yes it it
[19:22] <TJ-> gavimobile: let me look through the list for more candidates
[19:22] <gavimobile> dpkg --configure -a?
[19:22] <gavimobile> TJ-: ok
[19:23] <TJ-> gavimobile: "dpkg --remove apt-xapian-index"
[19:24] <TJ-> gavimobile: "dpkg --remove python-apt"
[19:25] <gavimobile> is this python ?
[19:25] <gavimobile> dpkg --remove python-apt
[19:25] <TJ-> gavimobile: then, without letting this command run, pastebin what it reports: "apt-get --fix-broken install"
[19:26] <TJ-> gavimobile: no, it's python-apt, required by apt-xapian-index and aptitutde/synaptic
[19:26] <gavimobile> i guess it doesnt matter, dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove python-apt which isn't installed
[19:26] <buZz> whats the method to report a malicious snap developer thats causing ppl to lose money when they install his snaps?
[19:26] <TJ-> gavimobile: that's good then, it never got there or didn't record that it did
[19:26] <TJ-> gavimobile: then, without letting this command run, pastebin what it reports: "apt-get --fix-broken install"
[19:26] <gavimobile> its running
[19:27] <TJ-> buZz: that's snapcraft.io I think
[19:27] <gavimobile> i didnt forget:)
[19:27] <buZz> someone namesquatted the 'bitcoin' snap and made it install a outdated and poorly compatible client (thats not the official one)
[19:27] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, thought you might have got lost in the messages :)
[19:27] <gavimobile> https://pastebin.com/1a10D1Kf
[19:27] <TJ-> buZz: snaps aren't supported by Ubuntu, they're a Canonoical/snapcraft.io thing
[19:28] <buZz> alright
[19:28] <TJ-> gavimobile: try "apt-get autoremove" now; if it works it'll clear out a lot that is no longer depended on
[19:29] <gavimobile> lol
[19:29] <A|an> I used to know this...how to you establish a root terminal in a non-admin user account
[19:29] <A|an> how do you
[19:29] <gavimobile> i litter just tried that and was going to pastebin to you that 150+mb will be free
[19:29] <TJ-> gavimobile: it looks like you installed a GUI on that install? is it needed, because that will take up a LOT of space
[19:29] <gavimobile> TJ-: no need for gui
[19:29] <hggdh> A|an: sudo?
[19:30] <A|an> no
[19:30] <A|an> sudo -i doesn't either
[19:30] <TJ-> gavimobile: right, and in that list I'm seeing things like GUI libraries, which were likely brought in due to something else you installed
[19:30] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>82    105070  79% /
[19:30] <hggdh> A|an: please be more specific. sudo -i does not what? And what,m exactly, do you want do do?
[19:30] <gavimobile> can we keep on going?
[19:30] <A|an> in the past, I've done some command that established a root terminal with a # promt
[19:30] <TJ-> A|an: for a user not in the 'sudo' group?
[19:30] <TJ-> gavimobile: yes
[19:30] <A|an> yes
[19:31] <gavimobile> TJ-: i really appreciate your assistance!
[19:31] <TJ-> gavimobile: try "apt-get -f install" again see if it can clean up finally
[19:31] <gavimobile> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 117 not upgraded.
[19:31] <hggdh> A|an: if you know the root's password, you can su -
[19:31] <TJ-> gavimobile: OK, let's not upgrade right now :D
[19:31] <A|an> okay
[19:31] <A|an> just a sec
[19:32] <TJ-> gavimobile: so you've got space, and we need to figure out what you've got installed that can be permanently removed
[19:32] <A|an> That prompts for the users passwd
[19:32] <hggdh> A|an: su - will prompt for the *root*'s password, not the user.
[19:32] <gavimobile> TJ- wont /vat/log/apt/history.log be a good resource?
[19:32] <TJ-> gavimobile: now this: "dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep -v ^lib | nc termin.com 9999"
[19:33] <A|an> just a sec
[19:33] <TJ-> gavimobile: that'll send the output to termbin.com, you just need to give us the URL
[19:33] <gavimobile> also, if i run apt-get remove synaptic wajig dpkg-dev apt-doc python-apt aptitude , shouldnt it remove all dependencies and bring me back to where i was before i got myself into this mess?
[19:33] <TJ-> gavimobile: yes, although we should have managed those removals already with "dpkg --remove" (dpkg -r)
[19:33] <A|an> hggdh: authentication fail
[19:34] <gavimobile> including their dependencies?
[19:34] <gavimobile> btw, its running i think. no output yet (as if its working)
[19:34] <TJ-> gavimobile: no, the "apt-get autoremove" did that
[19:34] <TJ-> gavimobile: yes, it'll be a long list
[19:34] <gavimobile> done, no output
[19:34] <hggdh> A|an: then you gave the wrong password for root. As an aside, root does NOT have a password set on Ubuntu, by default.
[19:34] <gavimobile> no link
[19:34] <A|an> (i've done it in the past...i'm going to scratch in my flesh when i figure it out again)
[19:34] <TJ-> gavimobile: oh fooey I'm a dope!
[19:34] <gavimobile> i ran this  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep -v ^lib | nc termin.com 9999
[19:35] <gavimobile> TJ-: your definetly not
[19:35] <A|an> yes, i know it's not set by defautl...i re-entered it 3x
[19:35] <TJ-> oh no! I thought I'd not put in the "nc"
[19:35] <A|an> just a sec
[19:35] <TJ-> gavimobile: it may be the list was too long for termbin to accept
[19:35] <TJ-> gavimobile: I'm testing it here
[19:36] <cnnx> I'm unable to play a .SWF file
[19:36] <cnnx> I'm having a hard time installing flash player
[19:36] <A|an> fails again
[19:36] <A|an> hmmm
[19:36] <gavimobile> what is termin.com
[19:38] <TJ-> gavimobile: typo!! that's why it failed :D
[19:38] <TJ-> gavimobile: use this better command anyhow: "dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{P=P " " $2}END{print P}' | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:39] <cnnx> I have a file ending in .SWF on my desktop
[19:39] <cnnx> when I click on it it doesnt play the game
[19:39] <cnnx> application/x-shcokwave-flash decoder is required to play the file, not is not installed
[19:39] <cnnx> what can I do
[19:40] <A|an> ok...how do you switch to another user account in a user's account
[19:41] <gavimobile> http://termbin.com/jjpv
[19:43] <hggdh> A|an: sudo
[19:44] <gavimobile> if /var/log/apt/history.log doesnt show anything from 2018 and everything else is from 2015 (i only purchased this device in 2018), does this mean that this is how it was before?
[19:44] <TJ-> gavimobile: the only thing there that I suspect may have been pulled in but isn't needed is python3.4 - 14.04, as far as remember, only uses python2.7 for system tooling
[19:45] <TJ-> gavimobile: althought I'm not sure why qemu-user-static is required on there either
[19:45] <gavimobile> i need wget php5-cli nano
[19:46] <TJ-> gavimobile: for now, if "apt-get -f install" reports everything is good (doesn't do anything) then it's back to a sane setup.
[19:46] <TJ-> gavimobile: what's the free space like now?
[19:46] <gavimobile> it is back to sane
[19:46] <gavimobile> /dev/root<PHONE_NUMBER>84    104968  79% /
[19:46] <gavimobile> which im totally fine with
[19:46] <gavimobile> i just wish i can do more
[19:46] <gavimobile> i also ran
[19:47] <gavimobile> just a sec
[19:47] <TJ-> there's things like libpangoft2-1.0-0 which, as far as I know, should only be required by a GUI tool
[19:48] <TJ-> gavimobile: oh and "hicolor-icon-theme"
[19:48] <TJ-> gavimobile: are you wanting to be able to build software for it ?
[19:49] <gavimobile> no building software
[19:49] <TJ-> gavimobile: i was wondering why dpk-dev and gcc-4.8 build-essential were being installed
[19:49] <gavimobile> hicolor-icon-theme removed
[19:49] <gavimobile> TJ-: they were suggested from the terminal
[19:50] <gavimobile> shall i remove them
[19:50] <gavimobile> libpangoft2-1.0-0 and dependencies removed
[19:52] <TJ-> gavimobile: looks like you're about sorted out "apt-get autoremove" will remove any packages that are no longer required
[19:52] <TJ-> gavimobile: I have to stop typing now, about to get flour-covered hands making pizza!
[19:53] <gavimobile> TJ enjoy man, thanks very much
[20:38] <coconut> Is there a place where all web browser connections to hosts are logged by default?
[20:40] <TJ-> coconut: You mean the NSA?
[20:43] <coconut> TJ-: heheh, no i want to know what i.e. firefox does more than only the sites i visit.
[20:44] <coconut> I guess this can only be accomplished outside ff.
[20:47] <TJ-> coconut: ohhh!!! I thought you meant some global logging of everyone's HTTP connections :D
[20:48] <coconut> TJ-: yes, i do mean that. :)
[20:50] <TJ-> coconut: you could monitor outgoing connections from the firefox process and child processes if you want to collect them in real time
[21:02] <coconut> TJ-: i have to go. Hope i can come on this tomorrow. (and thank you :))
[21:02] <coconut> *back
[22:44] <DoXiD> I tried my luck in the Arch irc. But hoping someone here is awake that is a god at linux namespaces.. Anyone ever worked with them and have some good ideas (and don't hate reading), do you mind throwing an eye on: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/483918/dnsmasq-running-in-namespace-cant-take-queries-from-within-namespace
[22:45] <DoXiD> tl;dr:   (outside) <IP_ADDRESS> veth0 <--> veth1 <IP_ADDRESS> (inside)    can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> from within the namespace itself.
[22:47] <TJ-> DoXiD: is there a routing table?
[22:48] <DoXiD> TJ: Yup, on both ends. And i can ping outside->inside  inside->outside just not inside->inside
[22:49] <DoXiD> and outside->outside address works fine too.
[22:51] <DoXiD> Running wireshark/tcpdump inside the namespace gives me some traffic, mostly ARP's and some SSDP. But when I ping the inside interface address I see no network traffic at all.
[22:52] <TJ-> DoXiD: I've read your SO, from the namespace shell can you show me "ip route show" ?
[22:52] <DoXiD> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev veth1
[22:52] <DoXiD> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev veth1 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:53] <TJ-> DoXiD: interesting... give me a few moments to reproduce!
[22:53] <DoXiD> I'd be happy to TJ- :)
[22:55] <TJ-> DoXiD: nice documentation btw, makes a change to see everything exact :)
[22:55] <DoXiD> Heh, thank you!  So thought, more is better ^^
[22:56] <DoXiD> I'm also duplicating the setup on a second machine, forgot to do that.
[22:56] <TJ-> DoXiD: before i recreate, have you on the host run tcpdump on eno1? because I have a sneaking suspicion the packets are being punted to eno1 and not seeing veth1
[22:56] <TJ-> DoXiD: due to the MASQ rule
[22:57] <DoXiD> humm, i have. well a wireshark running on both eno1 and on veth0. But I'll double check, gimme a sec
[23:00] <DoXiD> TJ-: Something's fishy, I get barely anything in wireshark on eno1 or veth0. I should be getting this SSH+IRC traffic at the very least.
[23:01] <TJ-> DoXiD: the other thing I wonder is, have you done "sysctl net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 1"?
[23:02] <TJ-> DoXiD: I see you've done net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[23:02] <DoXiD> TJ-: Not permanently added it to the sys-conf, and not done the default thing.
[23:02] <xdruppi> hello, i created a xorg.conf file because ubuntu wasn't detecting my native resolution, now it works, but only after logging in, why is that? is there a way to make it so that it works from boot?
[23:02] <TJ-> DoXiD: no, doing it via /proc/sys/ is the same :)
[23:03] <TJ-> DoXiD: but how about "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/forwarding" ?
[23:03] <DoXiD> Did the default, and now i get x5 `1`
[23:03] <DoXiD> So they're all active :) ping still doesn't work :/
[23:04] <DoXiD> Got wireshark running, no ping on eno1 :/
[23:04] <DoXiD> (but I do see traffic now at least on eno1. So it's behaving again)
[23:05] <DoXiD> and nothing is leakin out on veth0 either. ICMP-wise that is
[23:05] <TJ-> DoXiD: OK, that's good then, in a way :s
[23:06] <DoXiD> Haha, true. At least it's as expected. The big question now is, where does my ICMP packet go. dmesg and journalctl is giving me nothing, and iptables ia flying blind with accept on all tables.
[23:07] <DoXiD> It's so strange that tcpdump inside the namespace can't even see the packet being generated. as if the kernel is eating it up before it lands anywhere
[23:07] <TJ-> DoXiD: I've not really played about with netns to this degree but I do know networking, and the thing that I'd be wondered about on a regular host is where is localhost? Because when a local process on Linux kernel is sending to another local process the packets don't traverse the network stack like packets that are forwarded, or come from external hosts
[23:07] <TJ-> DoXiD: no, that isn't strange to me, due to ^^^^
[23:08] <DoXiD> Ah that's true.
[23:09] <TJ-> DoXiD: also, have you checked the default policy inside the netns for the netfilters FORWARD table is ACCEPT and not DROP?
[23:09] <DoXiD> localhost resolves to <IP_ADDRESS> in the namespace but ::1 ipv6 localhost on the outside. Not sure if that matters.
[23:09] <DoXiD> Let me double check, I think I did.
[23:09] <TJ-> DoXiD: that's just due to it preferring IPv6
[23:10] <DoXiD> There's no rule at all in the forward table. I can put one, a -J ACCEPT
[23:10] <TJ-> DoXiD: actually, it'd be the filter/INPUT chain
[23:10] <TJ-> DoXiD: not a rule, the Chain policy
[23:10] <TJ-> DoXiD: "iptables -L | grep policy"
[23:10] <DoXiD> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[23:10] <DoXiD> It's accept on all of them
[23:11] <DoXiD> same goes for prerouting, and all the NAT tables. Just double checking without knowing why I'm checking the NAT table heh
[23:11] <TJ-> DoXiD: I thought they should be but it's always worth checking
[23:12] <TJ-> DoXiD: I find "iptables -S" is the best way to check all tables/chains at once
[23:12] <TJ-> DoXiD: right, I'll try to reproduce here
[23:12] <DoXiD> Thank you, in advance!
[23:12] <DoXiD> And thank you for the tip on iptables, -S sure is nice!
[23:16] <TJ-> your instructions are missing the "ip link add veth1..."
[23:16] <DoXiD> #ip link add veth0 type veth peer name veth1   <- that one?
[23:17] <TJ-> sorry, no, my eyes skipped :D
[23:17] <DoXiD> haha, mine did too re-reading my own post.. Can't blame you!
[23:18] <Blueking> hmm dhcpd server won't hand out ip's   I can set IP on clients manual to access web/net.. trying to find out who dhcp server fails.. what should I look into ?
[23:19] <Blueking> who why..
[23:20] <acos> Blueking: when was it working last.
[23:20] <acos> Blueking: when was it working last??**
[23:20] <DoXiD> Blueking: I'd start with doing `dhclient -v` and see if the client tells you anything. `tcpdump -n -vv -i eth0` and see if you get any traffic that is DHCP related.
[23:21] <DoXiD> if you own the dhcp server, you can always check `journalctl -u dhcpcd` and see if that tells you anything. `ss -ltn` and see if the port is listening on the interface you're expecting it to.
[23:21] <Blueking> ok I will check
[23:21] <DoXiD> sorry, `ss -lun` (because it's UDP.. *duh*)
[23:28] <TJ-> DoXiD: I notice I cannot "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" inside the netns, even after "ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/8 dev lo"
[23:30] <DoXiD> I got the same phenomena. Which is the same issue with the assigned address to the veth interface. Is this by design?
[23:35] <TJ-> DoXiD: I do notice that dnsmasq isn't receiving the query
[23:36] <DoXiD> Correct, in a sense. That's what I get too. I can start dnamasq outside the namespace and queries will work. I just can't do anything inside the namespace with it's own IP :/
[23:36] <DoXiD> nor loopback
[23:42] <TJ-> DoXiD: yes; i was confirming the extend of the isolation using "dig -b a.b.c.d ..."
[23:45] <TJ-> DoXiD: I saw strace was binding to an IPv6 socket, so I added ::1/128 to lo but that didn't help either
[23:45] <DoXiD> Good thinking tho, strace was a good idea
[23:47] <timmi92> I've been trying to change 18.04 Desktop to use systemd-networkd via netplan, rather than NetworkManager but it doesn't receive broadcasts (the most annoying consequence being no ARP requests, so I have to ping a client from the machine before the client can ping back). I've searched online for ages and can confirm subnets are OK, same driver is in use, permissions OK on .network file, etc.
[23:47] <Blueking> DoXiD: founmd reason  : same client/router in AP mode added two times..
[23:49] <DoXiD> Blueking: There ya go :D Glad you found it!
[23:50] <Blueking> wasted some hours on this silly thing..  bought some mesh routers.. moving old one into garage
[23:50] <TJ-> DoXiD: fixed it LoL we're so silly
[23:50] <DoXiD> You gotta be shitting me? :P
[23:50] <DoXiD> Teach me sensei
[23:50] <TJ-> DoXiD: "ip netns spacename ip link set up dev lo"  :D --- it was down!
[23:50] <DoXiD> Noooooo
[23:51] <DoXiD> *shame* *shame* *shame* :<
[23:51] <DoXiD> Man, you're a god!
[23:51] <TJ-> Baaahhhm Baaaaahm Baaaaahm!
[23:51] <TJ-> ^^ best attempt at denumont music
[23:51] <DoXiD> ofc that's it.. I can't blame anyone but myself, but I really dislike clever optmizations like this :P I expect traffic to go on veth1 not lo xD
[23:51] <DoXiD> Hahaha
[23:52] <TJ-> DoXiD: I knew it had something to do with the way localhost is handled, but I didn't look at the basics
[23:52] <DoXiD> I can hear it perfectly in my head
[23:52] <TJ-> DoXiD: anything routed inside the host uses lo
[23:52] <DoXiD> TJ-: You rarely do once you've started to advance in the levels of thinking.  God dang it you're good tho!
[23:53] <TJ-> DoXiD: I know the feeling... I'm always reminding people to 'check the cables' and 'is it plugged in'
[23:53] <DoXiD> Haha, classic OSI model thinking! ^^
[23:53] <TJ-> saves so much time... we forgot to check lo was plugged in and its lights were blinking :)
[23:54] <DoXiD> If you have a SO account, feel free to poke me in the eyes by posting the most simplisic answer you can haha
[23:54] <TJ-> DoXiD: I don't :)
[23:54] <DoXiD> We sure did.. so furstrating ^^
[23:54] <DoXiD> I'll answer it with a reference to the irc chatlog :)
[23:55] <TJ-> DoXiD: just add the "ip netns spacename ip link set up dev lo" and "ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/8 dev lo"
[23:55] <TJ-> I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes a top hit :)
[23:56] <DoXiD> Hehe, probably will once namespaces gets used more frequenctly haha. Oh man, I'm so grateful I dared copy pasting the same question I posted in the #archlinux channel.
[23:56] <DoXiD> I hate spamming, but this was getting on my nerves!
[23:56] <DoXiD> Anything I can do to thank you?
[23:58] <TJ-> DoXiD: help someone else the same way
[23:59] <DoXiD> I'll try my hardest to help two people. Gotta love good communitys!


[03:36] <OvenWerks> Question for anyone... assuming a potion of menu that may end up with any DE, It makes sense to group the studio help/info menu with the 5 workflow menus. I am thinking to put this info menu at the top, dose that make sense? or should it be the bottom of the group?
[03:38] <OvenWerks> I am still not certain what would be best for our own ISO, but for those adding our menu+plus metas to another install, I think all our stuff should be together.
[21:46] <ryanpcmcquen> hello!
[21:46] <ryanpcmcquen> i'd like to help if at all possible ;-)
[21:49] <DarkEra> hello and welcome ryanpcmcquen :) zequence is the lead of Ubuntu Studio so it's best to talk to him
[21:50] <ryanpcmcquen> thanks!
[21:51] <DarkEra> if he doesn't respond later on don't hesitate to jump in on a regular basis, you might catch him. Or you can just hang around with us here ;)
[21:51] <DarkEra> he'll show up for sure
[21:52] <ryanpcmcquen> thank you!
[21:52] <DarkEra> you could subscribe to the mailinglist if you want to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-devel
[21:53] <DarkEra> and have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio
[21:53] <DarkEra> you're most welcome :)
[21:54] <ryanpcmcquen> signing off for now, thank you for the tips
[21:54] <DarkEra> ok, laters :)
[23:57] <zequence> OvenWerks: Feel free to change anything on our desktop to fall in line with Xubuntu
[23:57] <zequence> except the obvious, of course: our specific settings, and artwork
[23:57] <OvenWerks> Will do
[23:58] <OvenWerks> I think I posted it in the channel.. :P