[08:55] <flaccid> this is what he has loaded atm Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:55] <intelikey> flaccid ok maybe 29 i'll check that    i use a 2.4 kernel on this box.
[08:56] <flaccid> dang
[08:56] <flaccid> yeah i've done dapper to feisty before with lots of problems but i won in the end so i'll give it a try
[08:56] <intelikey> so even thouugh i'm all up to date my kernel is not.
[08:57] <pillowpants> i cant seem to find a .deb for zsnes for feisty amd64, and its not in the repos
[08:57] <intelikey> !info zsnes
[08:57] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:58] <rockets> How do I use kaffeine-gstreamer
[08:58] <flaccid> there is not one available, pillowpants
[08:58] <rockets> i installed it and kaffeine seems to still use xine
[08:58] <Meowmixiscoo> How do I get sound to work?
[08:58] <intelikey> looks like 32 bit only   maybe ?
[08:58] <pillowpants> i managed it before, but i dont remember how
[08:58] <intelikey> the 32 bit version ?
[08:58] <pillowpants> yeah
[08:59] <pillowpants> or something along those lines
[08:59] <pillowpants> i may have compiled it
[08:59] <pillowpants> http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7371
[08:59] <intelikey> !sound | Meowmixiscoo you can look here,  but no using sudo, remember...
[08:59] <ubotu> Meowmixiscoo you can look here,  but no using sudo, remember...: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:59] <pillowpants> im trying this technique
[09:00] <intelikey> flaccid ok just checked that kernel version is not in dapper *
[09:00] <intelikey> so that was probably some custom updates/upgrades
[09:01] <flaccid> yeah its called a n00b just selecting any repos
[09:01] <flaccid> 'oh i did do this one day' 'oh thanks i just wasted 3 hours'
[09:02] <intelikey> yep that's it.
[09:03] <flaccid> i think the impossible situation is going to be 9/10 that
[09:03] <Meowmixiscoo> !Players
[09:03] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:04] <intelikey> yes at least   maybe 11/10 even...
[09:04] <flake> clear
[09:04] <flake> ls
[09:04] <flake> doh
[09:04] <intelikey> /clear
[09:05] <intelikey> flake you can use the irc client as a shell if you need or want to    /exec ls
[09:05] <flaccid> ok doing upgrade now in prep. for dist-upgrade
[09:05] <shibu> is there anyone who can give me some advice on streaming rtp packets
[09:06] <intelikey> just remember that commands that tie up the terminal will tie up the irc client too
[09:06] <aftertaf> intelikey: or use Screen, no?
[09:06] <flake> cool
[09:07] <intelikey> aftertaf from within the irc client...   i guess you could
[09:07] <flake> Niccce, is # 4 terminal in all Kazakhstan
[09:07] <aftertaf> lol
[09:07] <flaccid> intelikey:  got a apt error thats non fatal
[09:08] <flaccid> intelikey: how to get rid of : http://pastebin.ca/697113 ?
[09:09] <shibu> pls anybody who can help me in streaming?
[09:09] <shibu> I'm in urgent need
[09:09] <shibu> pls pls pls
[09:09] <flaccid> no shibu
[09:10] <jussi01> !ask | shibu
[09:10] <ubotu> shibu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:10] <flaccid> here is not really the place for help on rtp packets..
[09:10] <shibu> I have to send RTP packets
[09:10] <intelikey> LC_ALL=C command
[09:10] <shibu> can u suggest me any channel which can help me?
[09:11] <flaccid> unfortunately not shibu
[09:11] <shibu> because I'm in such an urgent need
[09:11] <shibu> its ok
[09:11] <shibu> thanks for sparing ur time for me
[09:11] <flaccid> everything is urgent for everyone usually :)
[09:11] <flaccid> np
[09:12] <intelikey> flaccid that is a temporarry fix.    setting the LC_ALL var before the command,  when you have finished the dist-upgrade if it doesn't take care of that we'll edit the /etc/environment
[09:13] <yayan> tets
[09:13] <intelikey> ?
[09:13] <flaccid> ok i'll see if it remains when i get to feisty. you are right this is a dapper issue
[09:15] <number> Hello - is better install ubuntu or kubuntu? It is only one graphical manager in each version - so I can not run KDE in Ubuntu?
[09:15] <Neutrinux> hi, is there a tuto to get kubuntu 7.04 hibernate or suspend?
[09:15] <Yz85Racer> hey
[09:16] <Yz85Racer> how do you get wine on Kubuntu?
[09:16] <aftertaf> Neutrinux: i'd check on ubuntuforums, google those keywords and you will find...
[09:16] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: adept, synaptic, apt... its in the repos
[09:17] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: or google for wine ubuntu feisty and you'll find a newer reopsitory
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> say what? i tryed adept
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> but theres like
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> 3 things
[09:17] <intelikey> number and why not ?
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> well
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> teres libwine
[09:17] <Yz85Racer> libwine-dev
[09:18] <aftertaf> get just wine.
[09:18] <Yz85Racer> winefish
[09:18] <aftertaf> the rest will come if needed
[09:18] <number> intelikey: I do not know - I read that on Ubuntu is Gnome and in Kubuntu is KDE, so...
[09:18] <Yz85Racer> How?
[09:18] <Yz85Racer> that;s waht I want too know
[09:18] <intelikey> number  you can install kde gnome fluxbox blackbox icewm xfce4 and any/all other gui's in any of the *buntu versions.
[09:19] <Neutrinux> aftertaf: i check
[09:19] <intelikey> number the default gui for ubuntu is gnome   the default for kubuntu is kde   the default for xubuntu is xfce4  ....
[09:19] <Yz85Racer> so... how do I get wine?
[09:19] <intelikey> !wine
[09:19] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:19] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: just install "wine"
[09:19] <number> intelikey: ok thx - so I will not be downloading both versions Kubuntu and Ubuntu if on each I can run KDE or GNOME
[09:19] <Yz85Racer> like i said
[09:19] <Yz85Racer> HOW?
[09:19] <intelikey> Yz85Racer package manager of your choice     and install it.
[09:19] <Meowmixiscoo_> Through Adept
[09:19] <Yz85Racer> adept doesnt have it... its got 3
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> umm ok
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> which one
[09:20] <Meowmixiscoo_> Just download the plain Wine
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> libwine
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> libwine-dev
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> and
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> winefish
[09:20] <intelikey> none of the above.
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> well
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> now?
[09:20] <intelikey> !repos | Yz85Racer
[09:20] <ubotu> Yz85Racer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> it doesnt have ANY
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> ffs
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> apart from them,
[09:20] <intelikey> read the link      ^
[09:20] <Meowmixiscoo_> =/ Try refreshing it?
[09:20] <Yz85Racer> i did?
[09:20] <Meowmixiscoo_> Weird.
[09:21] <intelikey> oh you did.    and you enabled the other repositories ?
[09:21] <pillowpants> i just accident xkilled my taskbar
[09:21] <pillowpants> what should i do?
[09:21] <intelikey> and you refreshed the list and you still don't have wine in the package list.
[09:21] <Yz85Racer> say what intelikey
[09:21] <intelikey> don't   BS me
[09:21] <Yz85Racer> im not
[09:21] <Yz85Racer> well
[09:21] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:22] <Yz85Racer> whats the refresh button? its the fetch updates
[09:22] <Yz85Racer> one
[09:22] <Yz85Racer> right?
[09:22] <pillowpants> crl +alt + esc = accidently clicked the skull and bones on taskbar
[09:22] <number> bye :)
[09:22] <pillowpants> now its gone, and id like it back
[09:22] <pillowpants> heh
[09:22] <intelikey> pillowpants alt+f2 kicker
[09:22] <pillowpants> ah, thank you
[09:23] <pillowpants> ill keep that in mind
[09:23] <intelikey> :)
[09:23] <Meowmixiscoo_> What does ctrl+alt+esc do?
[09:23] <pillowpants> xkill
[09:23] <Yz85Racer> well
[09:23] <pillowpants> terminates what ever you click on
[09:23] <Yz85Racer> how do i get wine ffs? I have searche
[09:23] <intelikey> runs   xkill    you then point it what you want to die
[09:23] <Yz85Racer> and none work
[09:24] <intelikey> yz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:24] <Yz85Racer> what about that
[09:24] <Yz85Racer> i have them all enabled
[09:25] <Meowmixiscoo_> Yz
[09:25] <Meowmixiscoo_> Go in to konsole
[09:25] <Yz85Racer> yes
[09:25] <Meowmixiscoo_> type sudo apt-get install wine
[09:25] <intelikey> Meowmixiscoo_ he'll still have adept open and that will error because of it.
[09:25] <Meowmixiscoo_> =/
[09:25] <Yz85Racer> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:25] <Yz85Racer> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:25] <Yz85Racer> is only available from another source
[09:25] <Yz85Racer> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[09:26] <Meowmixiscoo_> D'oh.
[09:26] <flaccid> !pastebin | Yz85Racer
[09:26] <ubotu> Yz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> mate
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> its 4 lines..
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> lol
[09:27] <intelikey> not in his repos.   so if he has the full repos in the sources.list then one of two things.   either it's 64 bit system and no wine on k8    or the database needs updated
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> yes
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> it's a 64-bit system
[09:27] <Yz85Racer> does that matter?
[09:27] <intelikey> it does
[09:28] <intelikey> !info wine fiesty64
[09:28] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[09:28] <qmr> My openoffice quickstart won't sit in kde tray, please help
[09:28] <intelikey> that didn't read the 64...
[09:28] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: stop flooding.
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> look
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> all i want too do
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> is run a game
[09:30] <flaccid> we can read
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> atch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> P
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> the first 3
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> are exe's
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> i go to the directory in konsole
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> and type
[09:30] <flaccid> exe is windows not linux.
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia
[09:30] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: stop flooding again
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> i meant
[09:30] <Yz85Racer> executable
[09:31] <flaccid> a .exe will not run on linux unless its run under wine or equivalent
[09:31] <Yz85Racer> i know..
[09:31] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: running win games with wine is not easy, even for experienced users.
[09:31] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: goto #wine
[09:31] <Yz85Racer> im not dumb on a computer.. just never used linux
[09:31] <aftertaf> a lot of ppl i know keep a windows partition just for gaming.
[09:31] <Yz85Racer> ohk nvm
[09:31] <Yz85Racer> i wont worry about wine
[09:31] <flaccid> good
[09:31] <Yz85Racer> but
[09:31] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: what have you used?
[09:32] <Yz85Racer> i go to my game's extracted directory
[09:32] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: i mezan by that thatis it not easy(tm), not that you are dumb ;)
[09:32] <Yz85Racer> windows and mac os
[09:32] <flaccid> Yz85Racer continues to flood. can someone ban him
[09:32] <Yz85Racer> im far from dumb on a comp
[09:32] <Yz85Racer> how am I flooding?
[09:32] <flaccid> i've already explained that
[09:32] <qmr> !enter
[09:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:32] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: its by pressing enter where a comma can be enough ;)
[09:33] <Yz85Racer> omg... ok
[09:33] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:33] <flaccid> also nobody ever said you were dumb
[09:33] <qmr> The channel is #winehq, not #wine
[09:33] <flaccid> thanks for the correction qmr
[09:33] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: thats where you go for wine help
[09:33] <Yz85Racer> but, anyway, i go to my games directory, (yes its linux) and type ./Tibia to run the game's exectuable, but it just says
[09:33] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[09:34] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: type wine Tibia
[09:34] <intelikey> and it's not Tibia.exe ?
[09:34] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: that file doesn't exist in the pwd. linux is case sensitive too
[09:34] <Yz85Racer> no
[09:34] <Yz85Racer> i know
[09:35] <Yz85Racer> im typing it
[09:35] <Yz85Racer> exactly
[09:35] <Yz85Racer> im in the games directory
[09:35] <flaccid> file ./Tibia if it returns no such file or directory. then like it says, it doesn't exist
[09:35] <intelikey> !tab
[09:35] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:35] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: we don't help flooders... stop flloding!
[09:35] <aftertaf> Yz85Racer: try running wine [filename]
[09:35] <[nrx] > !enter
[09:35] <[nrx] > :D
[09:35] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:36] <Yz85Racer> and it just says it doesnt exist, when im in the games directory it says "Tibia" i type "./Tibia"
[09:36] <Yz85Racer> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[09:36] <Yz85Racer> is what it says when i use ls in it directory
[09:36] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: what does file ./Tibia return?
[09:37] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[09:37] <flaccid> please pastebin output of ls -l of that directory
[09:37] <intelikey> that's not what flaccid asked
[09:37] <judgen> How do i enable fsaa by default for a nvidia card?
[09:37] <intelikey>  file ./Tibia
[09:38] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:38] <Yz85Racer> is what that returns flaccid
[09:38] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: what does ls -l ./Tibia return?
[09:39] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:39] <flaccid> thats the file command i need ls -l
[09:40] <Yz85Racer> oooops
[09:40] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 ./Tibia
[09:40] <Yz85Racer> forgot ctrl + c dont work
[09:40] <Yz85Racer> lawl
[09:40] <intelikey> dumb de dumb dumb  DUMB! ......     </whistles>
[09:40] <waylandbill_> I assume you're running as 'kyle'
[09:41] <qmr> this ultravnc 'singleclick' addon talks about a reverse connection for people behind firewall.. can someone tell me how that works?
[09:41] <Yz85Racer> yes
[09:41] <Yz85Racer> i am
[09:41] <flaccid> are you using bash?
[09:42] <waylandbill_> it's got x's across the board, so it wouldn't matter, but if it needs to save to an existing file could have trouble later. :)
[09:42] <intelikey> flaccid ?    ;/
[09:42] <Yz85Racer> erm
[09:42] <Yz85Racer> i dont know wtf bash is :P
[09:42] <intelikey> yz you are.
[09:42] <flaccid> have you tried running it absolutely. eg. /path/to/exec/Tibia
[09:43] <intelikey> the error messages    bash: blah.... kinda give that away
[09:43] <Yz85Racer> flaccid
[09:43] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 ./Tibia
[09:43] <[nrx] > <Yz85Racer> i dont know wtf bash is :P < -lol
[09:43] <intelikey> !info bash > Yz85Racer
[09:44] <waylandbill_> !bash
[09:44] <flaccid> thats not what i asked
[09:44] <Yz85Racer> ARGH
[09:44] <Yz85Racer> im so used to ctrl + c
[09:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:44] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: call it absolutely. eg. /usr/bin/whoami
[09:44] <Yz85Racer> bash: /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No such file or directory
[09:44] <Yz85Racer> I DID
[09:44] <Yz85Racer> oops, sorry, caps lock
[09:45] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: and file /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia returns the same as before?
[09:45] <Yz85Racer> yes
[09:46] <flaccid> Yz85Racer: you have a weird problem. i don't know what it is. i would ask the experts in #bash
[09:46] <intelikey> y'all be nice.     we don't treat trolls that harshly.    @ self as much as anyone.
[09:47] <intelikey> Yz85Racer before you go to #bash try this.    export PATH="$PATH:/home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia" ;Tibia
[09:48] <flaccid> bash requires $PATH to do this?
[09:48] <Yz85Racer>  Tibia: command not found
[09:48] <intelikey> shouldn't   but it can.
[09:49] <flaccid> whats the right way to force remove with dpkg again ?
[09:50] <intelikey> Yz85Racer may i see the output of this command please.          ls -l /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia
[09:50] <intelikey> !paste
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <[nrx] > flaccid: --force-remove?
[09:50] <intelikey> flaccid dpkg -P --force-all packagename
[09:50] <intelikey> err -P is purge
[09:50] <[nrx] > lol
[09:51] <flaccid> hmm not right still
[09:51] <[nrx] > dpkg remove --force
[09:51] <intelikey> ?
[09:51] <Yz85Racer> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37393/
[09:52] <flaccid> hmmm
[09:53] <flaccid> accepted sudo dpkg -r --force-all xfonts-scalable but didn't remove it
[09:53] <intelikey> flaccid -P --force-all does work.  it may error  but the package will be removed    dpkg -l | grep package   will confirm
[09:54] <flaccid> check out the wierd status: iHR xfonts-scalable                        1.0.0-6                                scalable fonts for X
[09:54] <flaccid> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/697149
[09:55] <intelikey> installed held Removed ???
[09:56] <flaccid> something, basically the setup script is preventing setup or removal
[09:56] <flaccid> due to specifying an unregognized option for the update-fonts-dir command
[09:57] <intelikey> which update-fonts-dir ; mv /path/to/update-fonts-dir /root ; : > /path/to/update-fonts-dir
[09:57] <intelikey> and dpkg -P --force-all package     again
[09:58] <intelikey> then you can mv /root/update-fonts-dir  /path/to/
[09:58] <flaccid> just trying a reinstall of xfonts-utils first
[09:59] <kaminix|benkyou> How do I make Kopete use Swiftfox as default browser?
[09:59] <flaccid> that may of done it. so the version mismatch of the command had dif command line options
[10:00] <flaccid> i've done a dapper to feisty upgrade before. now im doing a broken dapper to feisty upgrade. if successful its not a bad feat
[10:00] <Meowmixiscoo_> This might sound stupid but, do programs that run on a Mac run on Linux?
[10:00] <flaccid> unfortunately not meow
[10:00] <intelikey> yeah you can do it.    as long as you don't break libc6 or dpkg  your fine........
[10:00] <Meowmixiscoo_> =/ Ok then.
[10:01] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah hopefully\
[10:01] <intelikey> Meowmixiscoo_ that was for flaccid not you... just in case there was mistake
[10:01] <flaccid> its going good on dist-upgrade now :)
[10:01] <kvnet> hi to all!
[10:01] <Meowmixiscoo_> Hi2U
[10:02] <Meowmixiscoo_> intelikey, got it =] .
[10:02] <intelikey> flaccid im serious, as long as libc6 and dpkg are working.  it's fixable
[10:02] <flaccid> yeah i know that.. but its a matter of how much time you have to work on something like this
[10:02] <intelikey> yeah.
[10:02] <flaccid> but im looking lucky now atm..
[10:03] <flaccid> nice one br0ther :)
[10:04] <flaccid> im glad my shell is in gnu screen
[10:04] <kvnet> does somebody know about kubuntu and sony vaio compatibility?
[10:04] <flaccid> !vaio
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vaio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <intelikey> needless to say.   without another system to fix from   either of those are a game over call....
[10:05] <flaccid> um there is something on vaio somewhere
[10:05] <intelikey> !sony
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <kvnet> i need info about newest models.....my friend bought it and......vista sux and XP can't be installed
[10:05] <intelikey> zeenoth beet sony again ???
[10:06] <flaccid> kvnet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vaio&titlesearch=Titles
[10:06] <kvnet> thx
[10:06] <flaccid> not sure if anything will help but
[10:06] <flaccid> google is best place
[10:07] <flaccid> kvnet: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=tkQ&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=sony+vaio+ubuntu&spell=1
[10:07] <kvnet> google doesn't know about vaio c2zr :(
[10:07] <kvnet> and linux
[10:07] <flaccid> thats unfortunate
[10:07] <flaccid> give sony a call ?
[10:08] <waylandbill_> kvnet: if it doesn't support the latest hardware, I wouldn't worry. Usually 6 months later it does.
[10:11] <flaccid> hmm
[10:11] <pillowpants> whats the command to compile from source again?
[10:12] <pillowpants> ./configure?
[10:12] <pillowpants> make
[10:12] <pillowpants> make install?
[10:12] <intelikey> !b-e
[10:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:12] <flaccid> yeah
[10:12] <flaccid> pillowpants: thats purely dependent on the software
[10:12] <pillowpants> ./configure didnt work
[10:12] <pillowpants> i guess i should read the readme, heh
[10:12] <flaccid> yes
[10:12] <flaccid> and INSTALL if its there
[10:14] <waylandbill> configure scripts are if GNU automake/autoconf was used in the development and distribution. It's very widespread in usage, but there are other ways.
[10:14] <pillowpants> it wanted ./autogen
[10:15] <waylandbill> pillowpants: if you look at the autogen in a text editor, I bet it ran automake, autoheader and/or autoconf.
[10:16] <flaccid> ooo nearly done intelikey coz this dude on cable
[10:16] <intelikey> :)
[10:17] <pillowpants> im compiling zsnes
[10:17] <flaccid> coolio
[10:17] <Jucato> !info zsnes
[10:17] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:17] <pillowpants> im trying to get it on amd64
[10:17] <flaccid> yeah pillowpants on 64
[10:17] <pillowpants> only way is to compile
[10:17] <flaccid> hey thanks muchly for help intelikey, its done. i'll tell him to reboot it now and see if DE works
[10:18] <pillowpants> 64 is speedy
[10:18] <pillowpants> i dig it
[10:18] <intelikey> flaccid jsut issue init 6  :)
[10:18] <holybovine> how so
[10:18] <Ramla> say, what's the application for kde look (qt) settings? I'm running xubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed but can't bother to launch kde-session just to change opera's look
[10:18] <holybovine> nothing is coded to use 64'bitness
[10:18] <holybovine> except for 3d renderers and a few other specialty applications
[10:18] <flaccid> intelikey: alright. yeah i don't think hes doing anything on this machine, too bad if he is
[10:18] <holybovine> most apps aren't even multithreaded
[10:19] <intelikey> pstree would know
[10:19] <flaccid> dpm
[10:19] <flaccid> don't you have to be in a console to init ?
[10:19] <intelikey> nope
[10:19] <flaccid> init: Unable to send message: Connection refused
[10:19] <Jucato> Ramla: I think you need to install qt3-qtconfig or qt4-qtconfig (whichever qt version Opera is using)
[10:20] <intelikey> flaccid may be an upstart thing.      you did sudo it ?
[10:20] <waylandbill> 64 bit doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy. 32 is fast enough for my needs.
[10:20] <flaccid> Ramla: opera manages its own looks through skins and appearance as well below the window management layer...
[10:20] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah
[10:20] <xp_killer> wow its 4:30 in the morning
[10:21] <flaccid> im going to reboot him
[10:21] <waylandbill> actually 4:20 (here) ... I'm sure it's probably 4:20PM for Jucato. :)
[10:21] <Ramla> flaccid: sounds like that'd work too, thanks
[10:21] <pillowpants> boy, compiling zsnes is tricky work
[10:21] <Jucato> waylandbill: yep :)
[10:21] <pillowpants> i throw in the towel
[10:21] <flaccid> i recommend the kde longing skin for opera
[10:21] <Jucato> pillowpants: I imagine it's trickier to compile for 64-bit :/
[10:21] <flaccid> right i gotta run
[10:22] <flaccid> ceeyas later
[10:22] <intelikey> pillowpants what errors you got ?
[10:22] <waylandbill> I'm sure it is if you haven't compiled b4
[10:22] <intelikey> nd
[10:22] <flaccid> catch ya intelikey, jucy
[10:22] <pillowpants> sh ./autogen.sh && gmake && gmake install
[10:23] <pillowpants> wont be recognized
[10:23] <pillowpants> i have all the stuff there
[10:23] <pillowpants> dependencies and such
[10:23] <intelikey> wont be recognized ???
[10:24] <pillowpants> sh: Can't open ./autogen.sh
[10:24] <waylandbill> pillowpants: make sure it is executable
[10:24] <waylandbill> I guess it's time for me to head off to work.
[10:24] <pillowpants> im just reading off the install.txt
[10:24] <Jucato> um... studying...
[10:25] <pillowpants> waylandbill: this late?
[10:25] <pillowpants> or early perhaps
[10:25] <waylandbill> 4:20 am? what time should I be going? 12 am? :-P
[10:25] <pillowpants> its 3 25 am here
[10:25] <waylandbill> the good news is I get out earlier. lol
[10:29] <intelikey> and modem reset again...  is anyone counting......
[10:29] <Jucato> one
[10:29] <intelikey> seems like that is 6 or 7 already this morning...
[10:29] <sbucat> -.-.-.-.- volume microfone tooo low alsamixer is setted at top but it still low
[10:30] <sbucat> Realtek ALC861-VD
[10:30] <sbucat> microfone low
[10:30] <sbucat> ideas? i have made alsamixer and i set all at the max
[10:30] <intelikey> sbucat is the mic the record device ?   could be the line in   or the speakers even....
[10:30] <intelikey> make sure the recording device is the mic
[10:31] <sbucat> intelikey: made it
[10:31] <sbucat> input : mic
[10:31] <sbucat> damned alsa driver
[10:31] <sbucat> never works fine
[10:31] <intelikey> yes but is it selected in the app that you are testing ?
[10:32] <Meowmixiscoo_> I'm trying to install LimeWire but it keep telling me java isn't installed =/
[10:32] <sbucat> recordmydesktop
[10:32] <intelikey> !java
[10:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:32] <Meowmixiscoo_> Thanks!
[10:33] <sbucat> intelikey: i don t know but in recordmydestop there is not this option and in audacity if i set the mic's volume it's the same if i put mic's volume max or min
[10:33] <intelikey> beware the 64bit issues there too Meowmixiscoo_
[10:33] <Meowmixiscoo_> o.O
[10:34] <intelikey> sbucat i know that audacity lets you select the input device.
[10:34] <sbucat> intelikey: yes of couse
[10:34] <sbucat> in preference
[10:34] <intelikey> and the tool bar
[10:35] <sbucat> yes but tool bar no works
[10:35] <sbucat> and in preference i can set alsa oss and other
[10:35] <intelikey> Meowmixiscoo_ maybe only "flash" not java in general.  so disreguard
[10:35] <jason__> hellhelloo
[10:36] <intelikey> not what i mean.  there is a button on the toolbar that lets you choose the input device   mic line0 line1 ....
[10:37] <sbucat> cry....microfone was important
[10:38] <intelikey> !sound
[10:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:38] <jason__> so what's up
[10:38] <pillowpants> aha!
[10:38] <pillowpants> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432642
[10:38] <pillowpants> the 32 bit repository for amd64
[10:38] <intelikey> maybe something helpful there sbucat ^   i don't know.
[10:38] <pillowpants> zsnes is in there
[10:38] <pillowpants> very convenient
[10:39] <pillowpants> i can apt-get zsnes32 like any other lassy now
[10:39] <intelikey> see   no 64bit.   only 32
[10:39] <pillowpants> yeah
[10:39] <pillowpants> but compiling it was not an option
[10:39] <intelikey> i see.
[10:39] <pillowpants> and installing a 32 bit deb on its own is tricky
[10:39] <intelikey> yes
[10:39] <pillowpants> dfreer is awesome for adding that repo
[10:41] <intelikey> i'm off in 20 minutes.   gooday all.
[10:41] <intelikey> time to make last rounds.
[10:41] <pillowpants> see ya
[10:41] <intelikey> !quit shalom
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit shalom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <pillowpants> im off
[10:45] <pillowpants> thanks for the help
[10:45] <pillowpants> gnight
[10:47] <user__>
[10:47] <[nrx] > :O
[10:48] <[nrx] > user__: try #ubuntu-ru
[10:48] <[nrx] > or not
[11:09] <joneal> hi
[11:09] <SlimeyPete> hi
[11:09] <Jucato> hi
[11:11] <contrast83> What up, Jucato
[11:11] <Jucato> hm.. not much...
[11:13] <gustavo> hi
[11:13] <gustavo> hi hi
[11:15] <luis> hi
[11:16] <emilsedgh> !hi | luis
[11:16] <ubotu> luis: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:16] <emilsedgh> !hi | gustavo
[11:16] <ubotu> gustavo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:18] <gustavo> hi!
[11:53] <[nrx] > ;o
[11:58] <jokijo> any awake out there?
[11:59] <[nrx] > :)
[11:59] <[nrx] > nope
[11:59] <sirag> hola
[11:59] <[nrx] > hi
[11:59] <jokijo> hey
[11:59] <[nrx] > *yawns*
[12:00] <jokijo> im transferring like 30 gigs of music from one harddrive to the other
[12:00] <jokijo> its taking forever
[12:11] <jokijo> actually it's going a lot faster than i expected
[12:16] <gomatteo> Hi all. I'm thinking that we don't need python for daemons, like guidance-power-manager or guidance-power-manager. Why not rewrite them in C++?
[12:17] <emilsedgh> gomatteo: whats wrong with python?
[12:17] <Jucato> not really the place to ask this question gomatteo
[12:18] <Jucato> and please, be patient in waiting for the answer. you already asked this in -devel
[12:18] <gomatteo> Jucato: Ok, sorry
[12:22] <Zvezdichko> hello, how can I set up Adept so it could clear apt cache after each upgrade?
[12:23] <Jucato> adept doesn't have that feature yet unfortunately
[12:26] <Zvezdichko> Jucato: but is it safe to delete cache manually
[12:26] <Jucato> sudo apt-get clean
[12:26] <Jucato> that's the command for it
[12:26] <gustavo> http://picpaste.com/topology.jpg can someone help me? my cabled pc cant access my wireless pc
[12:26] <Zvezdichko> thankss
[12:32] <vapashos> i wanna somebody to help me with the installation
[12:32] <vapashos> if there is anyone lets talk  private
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> !ask
[12:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> also, if you talk in-channel then others can benefit too
[12:34] <vapashos> when i m trying to install it i get a message starting bluetooth devices and doesnt continue
[12:34] <Zvezdichko> I always had problems with grafical installations
[12:34] <Zvezdichko> why don't you try with the alternate disk
[12:34] <Zvezdichko> ?
[12:34] <vapashos> anyone who knows about tis problem?
[12:35] <vapashos> it probably doesnt detects any bluetooth device on my pc
[12:35] <vapashos> how can i make it skip this?
[12:35] <angasule> I tried to install krita but it says they are untrusted packages, how can I check from which repo it's trying to install? (at least, I'm guessing that's why they are 'untrusted')
[12:35] <angasule> hey Zvezdichko
[12:35] <SlimeyPete> vapashos: as Zvezdichko says, it's probably best to try the alternate CD, see if that works
[12:35] <SlimeyPete> that's always a good first step.
[12:36] <Zvezdichko> because the standart CD freezes a lot
[12:36] <vapashos> the cd i use is the one i burned after downloading the latest version of kubuntu
[12:36] <vapashos> there is not any other alternate cd
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> vapashos: yes there is.
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> check the ubuntu website.
[12:37] <vapashos> are you sure?
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> certain. I've used it several times.
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> it's towards the bottom of the download page.
[12:37] <vapashos> i ll check it
[12:38] <vapashos> did you have the same problem?
[12:38] <Zvezdichko> I've had a similar
[12:38] <Zvezdichko> but the alternate install was successful
[12:38] <angasule> funny, now krita installs without complaint...
[12:39] <vapashos> when you saw alternate do you mean the previous version?
[12:40] <SlimeyPete> nope
[12:40] <Zvezdichko> no
[12:40] <Zvezdichko> it's the same version
[12:40] <emonkey> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[12:40] <Zvezdichko> but it uses the standart Debian installer
[12:40] <SlimeyPete> vapashos: check the "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."
[12:40] <SlimeyPete> box
[12:40] <SlimeyPete> on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[12:41] <Zvezdichko> I never trust grafical installers
[12:41] <Zvezdichko> they are too buggy
[12:41] <Zvezdichko> but remember! this one may seem to "freeze" for a long time.
[12:42] <emonkey> Alternate install CD
[12:42] <emonkey> The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu.
[12:42] <emonkey> for example on: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/feisty/
[12:42] <angasule> PBCAK is the most common source of failure, Zvezdichko
[12:42] <Zvezdichko> isn't that old- feisty? I use gutsy and I have updates every day
[12:42] <[nrx] > meh
[12:43] <[nrx] > need a better theme
[12:43] <emonkey> angasule, mostly the alternate worked better
[12:43] <vapashos> i have another question
[12:43] <vapashos> when i m searching throw adept i can t find beryl
[12:43] <Zvezdichko> vapashos: have you enabled universe/multiverse
[12:44] <vapashos> how can i enable this?
[12:44] <vapashos> i suppose that  something s going wrong with my repositories
[12:44] <Jucato> Zvezdichko: feisty? old? gutsy won't even be released until October. and feisty will receive support until October of next year
[12:45] <Zvezdichko> vapashos: wait... I have the very same problem here
[12:45] <Zvezdichko> Jucato: but I'm currently using gutsy :)
[12:45] <Jucato> the only reason you have updates everyday is because gutsy isn't stable yet (till alpha)... after release, updates won't come as often
[12:47] <gustavo> my notebook cant shut down , what can i do? it doesnt responds
[12:47] <Zvezdichko> gustavo: Cntrl+Alt+Esc
[12:47] <Zvezdichko> or manually ps aux then kill number
[12:47] <Jucato> er?
[12:47] <gustavo> Zvezdichko: dont work :(
[12:47] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Esc = xkill only
[12:48] <gustavo> it doesnt respond to nothing
[12:48] <jussi01> can someone mention an application to convert normal pictures to lineart?
[12:48] <gustavo> it says : acpi_power_off called, but go no further
[12:48] <Zvezdichko> Jucato: oh, right :)
[12:48] <gustavo> but console pointer is blinking
[12:50] <evans> helooooo
[12:50] <evans> any1
[12:50] <Zvezdichko> I thought it was a program related problem
[12:50] <Zvezdichko> not about a system halt
[12:51] <evans> does anyone know of any good CAD programs?
[12:52] <tim> evans: for what?
[12:52] <tim> i.e. 3D, technical drawing, simulation?
[12:53] <Jucato> qcad? kicad?
[12:54] <Jucato> supper?
[12:54] <Jucato> heh
[12:54] <Zvezdichko> doh! is there seamonkey for Kubuntu?
[12:54] <jussi01> !autocad
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autocad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <jussi01> hrmph, there used to be a factoid
[12:54] <jussi01> !cad
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Jucato> !info qcad
[12:55] <evans> CAD for furniture drawing
[12:55] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1-2 (feisty), package size 2950 kB, installed size 12596 kB
[12:55] <Jucato> !info kicad
[12:55] <ubotu> kicad: Electronic schematic and PCB design software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20060829-1 (feisty), package size 2117 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[12:55] <evans> furniture drawing and design
[12:55] <Jucato> Zvezdichko: no seamonkey, but there's iceape
[12:55] <jussi01> so qcad most likely evans
[12:55] <evans> can Qcad draw in 3D?
[12:56] <Zvezdichko> Jucato: it also looks veeery heavy
[12:56] <Zvezdichko> my box is quite old
[12:56] <tim> http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=101703&page=1
[12:56] <Jucato> seamonkey *is* heavy
[12:56] <tim> 3d stuff
[12:57] <jussi01> evans: I dont know. but are dxf files something you know about?
[12:57] <Jucato> !info blender
[12:57] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.43-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 7120 kB, installed size 18600 kB
[12:57] <Jucato> !info wings3d
[12:57] <ubotu> wings3d: Nendo-inspired 3D polygon mesh modeller. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98.35-4 (feisty), package size 3026 kB, installed size 4676 kB
[12:58] <tim> evans: blender is a 3d modeling package. its pretty nice, but not a cad package. alternatively if your looking for something like solidworks, there should be something out there with a little googling
[12:58] <tim> evans: but I think blender will do you unless you need to do some kind of simulation
[12:58] <evans> no a simulation really
[12:59] <jussi01> [13:48]  <jussi01> can someone mention an application to convert normal pictures to lineart?
[12:59] <jussi01> :)
[12:59] <tim> evans: http://www.cycas.de/ will do you for sim then, dont know if its free
[01:00] <tim> jussio01: I actually just wrote a java prog to do that if you want it
[01:00] <Zvezdichko> is there an alternative for Windows movie maker
[01:00] <Zvezdichko> or a simple program for creating videos
[01:00] <SlimeyPete> Zvezdichko: kino, cinelarra, pitivi
[01:01] <tim> jussi01: I can make it nicer if you give me 5 minutes, then pastebin the source to you
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> none of them are quite as simple/stable as WMM, though
[01:01] <tim> jussi01: U want?
[01:02] <jussi01> tim: I have a whole lot to do, so thanks, but I cant have you doing it all for me... ;)
[01:02] <jussi01> Zvezdichko: kdenlive
[01:02] <jussi01> not in the repos yet, but in gutsy
[01:02] <Zvezdichko> I use Gutsy :0
[01:02] <jussi01> sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[01:02] <jussi01> :)
[01:03] <Zvezdichko> okay :) but firstly I have to update once again
[01:03] <jussi01> :)
[01:03] <Zvezdichko> I find it boring
[01:03] <Zvezdichko> :)
[01:03] <Zvezdichko> the update process is finished and after five minutes :) Oh, look, there are 30 packages available for update :)
[01:04] <tim> jussi01: what I'm offering is a simple edge detecter which converts a photo type image to a sketch like line image. its a script that takes an image name as a command line argument, and outputs the converted image. output in jpeg. ??
[01:04] <jussi01> :)
[01:04] <jussi01> tim: perfect! please could I get that!
[01:04] <jl_> hola
[01:04] <tim> jussi01:ok, I'll neaten it up a bit and put in some parameters
[01:05] <baudthief> Can someone please help with the Kubuntu installation? After trying to boot and selecting "Boot/Install ... etc" it just hangs at the Kubuntu logo, progressbar just pings back and forth
[01:05] <baudthief> *Kubuntu feisty
[01:06] <jussi01> baudthief: how long have you waited? is the cd activity?
[01:06] <baudthief> no CD activity, been over 10 minutes now
[01:06] <tim> jussi01: will do
[01:06] <jussi01> thanks :)
[01:07] <jussi01> baudthief: restart it in verbose mode
[01:07] <baudthief> how do I do that?
[01:07] <jussi01> remove the quiet argument in the startup line
[01:07] <baudthief> alright gonan try
[01:07] <jussi01> ok, im off, see yas all
[01:08] <Zvezdichko> have you already tried the new KDE 4 ( it'ss in gutsy repos )
[01:08] <Zvezdichko> quite unstable, huh
[01:08] <jussi01> Zvezdichko: yeah... very unstable...
[01:09] <Zvezdichko> it even doesn't load plasma
[01:09] <baudthief> interesting lol... I'm getting LOTS of disc activity now, but a "signal out of range" prompt on my LCD, might just wait a bit more
[01:11] <baudthief> shit, removing "quiet" just makes it work!?
[01:11] <baudthief> o_O
[01:11] <baudthief> oh well lol, not complaining - time to overwrite windows!
[01:16] <sbucat> waaaaaaaaaaaaa my sound sistem works greattttttttttttttt
[01:16] <sbucat> thanks
[01:26] <emilsedgh> will compiz become the default wm of the kubuntu 7.10?
[01:27] <Zvezdichko> I hope not ;)
[01:28] <emilsedgh> Zvezdichko: why? I hope it will, Im not its fan, I use kwin myself, but people will like it so much...
[01:28] <slackern> I hope it's only enabled as default if a proper driver is detected and installed properly and will fallback otherwise.
[01:28] <Zvezdichko> because there are still people who use old machines
[01:30] <emilsedgh> sure it will
[01:31] <slackern> I would guess so too, only proper way to implement it without causing too much chaos :)
[01:31] <slackern> Just wishing that there will be some proper drivers out for my X1950 card by then :)
[01:32] <maverick_> anyone knows of bandwidth shaper like NETLIMITER in windows?
[01:33] <vapashos> try dumeter
[01:34] <hab> What's the command for starting the restricted driver manager in Kubuntu?
[01:34] <emilsedgh> hab: Gutsy?
[01:34] <slackern> restricted-manager-kde
[01:35] <hab> emilsedgh: feisty.
[01:35] <emilsedgh> hagabaka: feisty has no restricted-manager :(
[01:35] <hab> Aw...
[01:35] <hab> Alrighty then.
[01:35] <hab> I was used to Gutsy ^.^
[01:35] <slackern> But im running Gutsy though, it also has an icon in System Settings -> Advanced
[01:35] <hab> I guess that Envy can do it.
[01:36] <hab> Thanks
[01:37] <vapashos> how can i be registered user here?
[01:38] <[nrx] > vapashos: try /msg nickserv help
[01:39] <maverick_> vapashos: is it even for linux?!!
[01:40] <maverick_> anyone knows of bandwidth shaper for KUBUNTU like NETLIMITER in windows?
[01:40] <vapashos> no its not for linux
[01:40] <maverick_> vapashos: well we're in a KUBUNTU channel btw...
[01:40] <maverick_> :D
[01:43] <vapashos> does any body knows if there is a command to check the cpu utilization and the number of processes running?
[01:45] <[ifr0g] > vapashos, top
[01:45] <[ifr0g] > vapashos, or ctrl + esc
[01:46] <vapashos> thanks
[01:46] <[ifr0g] > np
[01:48] <Zvezdichko> seasons they come, seasons they go...
[01:50] <tim> jussi01: your prog is ready, will mail. edge detection a little fuzzy, will improve, need ciggy first
[01:52] <pekuja> does anyone know how I could configure Firefox so that I can open downloaded files and that "Open containing folder" would start Konqueror?
[01:52] <pekuja> basically, I want Firefox to integrate to KDE a little better.
[01:53] <pekuja> I would use Konqueror for web browsing... but I like Firefox's Extensions, and it seems like Konqueror doesn't work very well with Google Reader, which I use a lot
[01:53] <emilsedgh> pekuja: if youre not an advanced web designer or programmer, Konqueror is a better choice
[01:54] <vapashos> when i search on my adept i don't get the latests versions of  the programms i want to install,does anybody knows why??
[01:54] <pekuja> well it doesn't seem to work right with Google Reader, and yeah I need it
[01:56] <emilsedgh> vapashos: thats the distro' policy, when Ubuntu releases 7.04, it includes (for example) kde 3.5.6, even if kde 3.6 releases after that, there will be no official update for that release of ubuntu to kde 3.6
[01:57] <emilsedgh> pekuja: if its important for you to have kde intergration, why dont you use akregator? Im not using google reader but it mays konqueror shows it correctly, try changing Browser Identification
[01:57] <pekuja> maybe I'll try it again, but anyways, I don't need Googl Reader to integrate into KDE
[01:58] <pekuja> if "Open" in Firefox's download window can actually open files in the proper applications, and "Open containing folder" opens up Konqueror in said folder, then that's probably enough
[01:59] <JuJuBee_> I want to install a dhcp server on my computer to hand out addresses to my classroom.  I would like the addresses to be set statically to each workstation (each workstation always gets the same address).  How do I do that?  I cannot find it in the docs.
[01:59] <pekuja> Google Reader actually does work ok... but I can't use my scrollwheel to scroll it, which is really weird
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> Hey, I nearly got my game working, I run the executable, but I get this error in Terminal X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
[02:00] <Yz85Racer>   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[02:00] <Yz85Racer>   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
[02:00] <Yz85Racer>   Serial number of failed request:  181
[02:00] <Yz85Racer>   Current serial number in output stream:  18
[02:00] <pekuja> I think it's trying to scroll the whole page when it should be scrolling inside a single frame
[02:00] <stdin> !paste | Yz85Racer
[02:00] <ubotu> Yz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> oh
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> k
[02:01] <runlevelten> what you get when you do the following in a shell Yz85Racer? glxinfo | grep endor
[02:02] <Yz85Racer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37404/
[02:02] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37404/
[02:04] <combo> what codecs do i need to watch RMVB movies ?? i've installed all codecs with that command :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37405/ ::
[02:04] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten, you there mate?
[02:04] <combo> but it looks something missin' :/
[02:04] <pekuja> emilsedgh, my problem with Konqueror is kinda minor and specific to that one site, but I use that site a lot so that ruins it for me :-/
[02:05] <combo> it is written that there is problem about 'drvc.so'
[02:05] <jhutchins> combo: I'd guess you need to install realplayer.
[02:05] <pekuja> emilsedgh, Akregator would be fine if I could sync it with Google Reader I guess
[02:05] <emilsedgh> pekuja: so try akregator :P
[02:05] <runlevelten> Yz85Racer: what graohics card you using?
[02:05] <Yz85Racer> ATI
[02:05] <combo> jhutchins: since now i've used Kaffeine player
[02:06] <Yz85Racer> I think that's my card.. Atleast runlevelten..
[02:06] <pekuja> emilsedgh, well I want the same feeds whether I'm on my desktop, laptop, or a terminal at the uni
[02:06] <Yz85Racer> Or is that my driver?
[02:06] <pekuja> emilsedgh, which is why I use Google Reader
[02:06] <emilsedgh> pekuja: so i really dunno :)
[02:06] <pekuja> emilsedgh, ok, so you don't know of any syncing options for that?
[02:06] <emilsedgh> pekuja: maybe you could find another web based rss reader?
[02:07] <pekuja> maybe
[02:07] <runlevelten> does grep -e radeon /etc/X11/xorg.conf give you Driver "radeon"?
[02:07] <pekuja> I guess that's a possible idea... will have to look around for what's available
[02:07] <pekuja> then again I do like Firefox. my only problem with that is opening files I've downloaded
[02:08] <pekuja> that doesn't seem to work out of the box
[02:08] <pekuja> I think it does on Gnomebuntu
[02:08] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten, all it does is drop too a new line.
[02:09] <runlevelten> pastebin the output of grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf will ya?
[02:09] <runlevelten> thanks :)
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten,
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> It's one line..
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.con
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> oops
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.con: No such file or director
[02:10] <Yz85Racer> sorry haa
[02:11] <runlevelten> Try pasting it instead of typing it then, save typos ;)
[02:11] <kkathman> lol
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> I have been..
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> oops
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> missed the f
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> :P
[02:12] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37407/
[02:14] <Yz85Racer> kkathman, trying to run a game.. :P
[02:15] <Yz85Racer> .....
[02:15] <Yz85Racer> It's a computer game..
[02:15] <Yz85Racer> No way am I using Winblows.
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> runlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37407/ is what it's throwing me
[02:16] <kkathman> then dont expect 100% or windows games to run under linux then :)
[02:16] <kkathman> cuz they wont
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> they're not winblows games
[02:16] <kkathman> Yz85Racer:  http://frankscorner.org
[02:17] <Yz85Racer> It's the Linux version, just having trouble running it.
[02:17] <kumamoto> anyone seen this http://www.openmoko.com/index.html
[02:18] <emilsedgh> kumamoto: sure, Im waiting for this phone :P
[02:19] <runlevelten> Yz85Racer: You need the 3D drivers installed to play games btw.
[02:19] <runlevelten> !binary
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <runlevelten> !fglrx
[02:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:19] <stdin> !driver
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <runlevelten> Myse4lf, I'd recommend you install restricted-manager and use that, tbh.
[02:20] <runlevelten> *self.
[02:20] <stdin> !driver is <alias> binarydriver
[02:45] <fatmike> hi room
[02:45] <fatmike> how can i install older packages
[02:45] <emilsedgh> !hi | fatmike
[02:45] <ubotu> fatmike: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:46] <fatmike> i want to install qt4.2.3
[02:46] <fatmike> but my system wants to install 4.3.0
[02:46] <gustavo> genii: gimme some
[02:46] <fatmike> blacklisting?
[02:46] <fatmike> dont know
[02:46] <fatmike> can so help me plz?
[02:46] <Jucato> genii: where were you when I was eating spring rolls for snacks :)
[02:46] <gustavo> genii: thanks :D
[02:47] <genii> Jucato: Probably I was trying to wake up LOL
[02:47] <Jucato> fatmike: how are you trying to install it? and for what?
[02:47] <Jucato> hahah :)
[02:47] <fatmike> apt-get install qt4-designer
[02:47] <fatmike> but i have to compile in qt 4.2.3
[02:48] <Jucato> fatmike: does it have to be exactly 4.2.3??? all 4.x releases are binary/API compatible
[02:48] <fatmike> yes but i get some errors when compiling in 4.3
[02:48] <fatmike> there should be a way to install older packages?!
[02:49] <Jucato> what would be the error? and are you sure the error is related to the version?
[02:49] <fatmike> strange errors
[02:49] <fatmike> butz i HAVE to compile
[02:49] <fatmike> in 4.2.3
[02:49] <Jucato> strange errors don't tell me much... :)
[02:49] <fatmike> yess
[02:49] <fatmike> but i dont need al sove to the error
[02:49] <fatmike> i need a hint to instal older packages ;)
[02:50] <Jucato> why do you HAVE to compile in 4.2.3?
[02:50] <fatmike> a collegue told be to do so
[02:50] <Jucato> the thing is, you "strange errors" might not be related to version number at all
[02:50] <fatmike> ok i will check it later
[02:50] <fatmike> but for quick fix i have to compile in 4.2.3
[02:51] <Jucato> what are you compiling btw? and what package did you specifically install?
[02:51] <Jucato> you need the -dev package for Qt. it might be complaining that it can't find Qt headers and libraries
[02:51] <genii> n8k99: Yay! More coffeee! ;)
[02:52] <fatmike> i want to have qt4dev,qt4 designer, assistant and mysql support
[02:52] <fatmike> i read st about /etc/apt/preferences and pinning
[02:52] <fatmike> is this the right place?
[02:53] <Jucato> probably... but I'm quite doubtful that it is the source of the problem... but if you say so...
[02:53] <fatmike> ok i just want to compile in 4.2.3
[02:54] <fatmike> later this week i will check if it also compiles in 4.3 and if not speak with you again about the compile prob
[02:54] <Jucato> fatmike: can you just try, and I mean really just try, installing libqt4-dev then compiling?
[02:54] <fatmike> are you firm with qt ?
[02:54] <vbhide> i have heard kubuntu works faster with drivers installed......... does anyone know how to do that?
[02:55] <SlimeyPete> vbhide: you mean graphics drivers?
[02:56] <vbhide> perhaps... i don't really know....:) how do you install graphics drivers?
[02:56] <SlimeyPete> !nvidia
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> vbhide: on Linux systems, drivers are implemented as kernel modules. All of the most popular modules (and many obscure ones) are included with Ubuntu and enabled by default if you have the right hardware.
[02:57] <fatmike> ok no error in 4.3
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> some proprietary ones (such as nvidia drivers) aren't, though.
[02:57] <fatmike> h how do i check my qt version that i have installed?
[02:58] <Jucato> fatmike: by default, the system will use Qt 3 because it is what KDE 3.x needs/uses.
[02:58] <Jucato> "qmake -v" tells you the version
[02:58] <djfito1> buenos dias a todos dese mexico
[02:58] <Jucato> if you want to explicitly launch a Qt 4 app, you have to use the direct path/filename
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> !mexican
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mexican - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> heh
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> !sp
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> !es
[02:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:59] <fatmike> ok thanx mate
[02:59] <Jucato> hm.. spanish or Portuguese?
[02:59] <fatmike> it just works with compile in qt 4.3 :)
[02:59] <Jucato> fatmike: told yah :P
[02:59] <fatmike> can i ask you again if i receive any 'strange errors' ?
[02:59] <vbhide> thankyou slimeypete! i have a presario v2000.... doubt if i need any driver then
[03:00] <Jucato> fatmike: you could also use the pastebin (see the channel's topic) so that we could all see the errors so that they won't be so strange anymore
[03:02] <fatmike> i will do so
[03:02] <fatmike> so thank you and byebye!
[03:03] <rivo> hi, has anyone succeeded in installing fglrx driver on kubuntu feisty?
[03:04] <rivo> all my attempts have failed with something like "DRI initialization failed (maybe driver kernel module is missing or bad)" in var/log/Xorg.log, no matter how I install it
[03:08] <wers> what tweaks can I do to make my Kubuntu desktop faster?
[03:08] <stdin> rivo: have you looked at the help page?
[03:08] <wers> I am running it on a laptop with humble specs
[03:09] <stdin> !ati | rivo
[03:09] <ubotu> rivo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:09] <wers> I turned of much of the effects already but I want it to be faster
[03:09] <Jucato> how humble are those specs? :)
[03:10] <rivo> stdin: yes, I also tried installing with envy which should take care of it automatically but nothing has worked
[03:11] <stdin> rivo: if you use more than one method without completely removing the last then you'll mess things up
[03:11] <slackern> ktorrent worked better than i thought it would feels like it's come quite a long way since the last time i tried it
[03:11] <rivo> stdin: I tried envy with clean install now, still nothing
[03:11] <stoneagepimp> anybody know how to play m4p music files?
[03:12] <stdin> rivo: and you have the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel installed?
[03:12] <jessejazza> Why not use XFCE or GNOME and add the bits missing that you want to use from KDE. I installed all 3 yesterday and have to say that i'm not that impressed with KDE. Removed it but have kept one or two programs i like.
[03:12] <stdin> !codecs | stoneagepimp
[03:12] <ubotu> stoneagepimp: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <rivo> stdin: yes it is
[03:15] <stdin> rivo: it could be that your card isn't supported by the driver any more, ATI tend to completely remove support for older cards after a while
[03:16] <rivo> stdin: it's radeon 9550 which is supported according to docs
[03:18] <stoneagepimp> thanks
[03:20] <hismajesty> hi
[03:20] <hismajesty> i heve a pb with my pc
[03:22] <n8k99> !question
[03:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:24] <hismajesty> so excuse my english but it started alone
[03:25] <bullfrog> wow I love ubuntu so far! Been windows free since the weekend :D
[03:25] <n8k99> congrats bullfrog
[03:26] <hismajesty> is there someone who speak french
[03:27] <hismajesty> ??
[03:27] <ubunturos> !kubuntu-fr
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <ubunturos> !ubuntu-fr
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <n8k99> !fr
[03:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:27] <ubunturos> !fr
[03:27] <hismajesty> thanks
[03:28] <n8k99> welcome
[03:30] <shriphani> can someone tell me the default kubuntu fonts
[03:30] <shriphani> I messed up with mine and they um... don't look good.
[03:30] <n8k99> Kedage
[03:30] <Jucato> Sans/Sans Serif
[03:30] <shriphani> err ?
[03:31] <dhq> i have a epson lx-800 printer it is a 9 pin dot printer.I tried LX 1050 driver which is for 24 PIN , it work so bad ..almost Un-ReadAlbe Text.
[03:31] <shriphani> n8k99: mind if you can tell me one by one ?
[03:32] <genii> dhq: You can't find a Generic 9 Pin dot Matrix    printer driver to install?
[03:32] <shriphani> Jucato: go ahead then.
[03:32] <dhq> genii, where
[03:33] <Jucato> shriphani: I already answer. all of them are Sans Serif
[03:33] <Jucato> except Fixed width, which would be Monospace
[03:33] <shriphani> ok and font aliasing enabled ?
[03:33] <Jucato> Window Title would be bold
[03:34] <genii> dhq: in the list of printer drivers in System Settings...Printer
[03:34] <dhq> genii, which one do i choose
[03:34] <Jucato> shriphani: mine says "System settings"
[03:35] <genii> dhq: 1 minute I'll go there and see whats available
[03:35] <dhq> k
[03:37] <genii> dhq:For manufacturer, choose Generic. Then for printer, IBM-Compatible Dot Matrix Printer
[03:38] <baudthief> anything like UltraVNC for linux/kubuntu? One that doesnt start a new x-session, just takes control of a machine on the LAN
[03:38] <dhq> genii, is it a 9 pin
[03:38] <baudthief> (other than krfb I mean)
[03:40] <genii> dhq: IBM made 9 and 24 pin dot-matrix
[03:41] <genii> dhq: If you wait a bit i'll try to find something else if you like
[03:41] <dhq> genii, well i have no time well try this one
[03:41] <dhq> genii, if you get any better info let me kno
[03:44] <genii> dhq: Epson TSQ-4800 driver apparently provides also generic 9 pin
[03:45] <dhq> genii, thanks i will check it out
[03:46] <PhinnFort> I can't get tomcat5.5 to run
[03:46] <PhinnFort> and tomcat5 isn't available in gutsy
[03:46] <PhinnFort> !tomcat
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <PhinnFort> rather, it runs, but it only returns completely blank pages
[03:47] <kirk> !format
[03:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:49] <saltire> I've just installed kubuntu but konqueror won't load any websites
[03:51] <kirk> !gparted
[03:51] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:51] <PhinnFort> !linux
[03:51] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:52] <wers> how do I prevent beagle from running automatically everytime I log in?
[03:53] <bullfrog> I have a little anoyance with kubuntu now, sometimes when my screen comes back from powersaving or if I log out and in again the mouse pointer goes invisble :/
[03:53] <PhinnFort> it's magic
[03:54] <kirk> can i use gparted to format my secondary hard drive? im on kubuntu 7.04
[03:58] <aantipop> my 5,5 gig root partition is 9X % full, are there some things i can remove from it ? aptitude auoclean already gave me 200 mb
[03:59] <SlimeyPete> aantipop: just remove any applications which you don't use
[03:59] <alexbe01__> erm, check /tmp
[03:59] <aantipop> oh okay
[03:59] <alexbe01__> it may not all be able to be deleted, but there's probably some
[03:59] <kirk> i have a 2nd hard drive mounted, how can i format it?
[04:00] <aantipop> temp is nearly empty, just had a fresh start
[04:00] <danya> hello recently I cant seem to edit my source list .... wondering why :S?
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> !mk2fs
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mk2fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> heh
[04:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> danya: sudo
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> !format
[04:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:01] <SlimeyPete> kirk: check out mkfs
[04:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> or just google it ffs
[04:01] <kirk> !mkfs
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <kirk> lol im lost, i just switched to kubuntu, been on windows my whole life
[04:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> ahh...
[04:03] <Parkerw207> Heya everyone , i am having trouble using the kubuntu live cd's , for some reason it does not get past the load of sequence at the start and simply sits there doing nothing
[04:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> it will be okay :)
[04:03] <aantipop> kirk, the easiest way is gparted or qtparted
[04:04] <SlimeyPete> kirk: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda1  (where sda1 is your hard disk device) I think. Otherwise, gparted may be able to do it graphically.
[04:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> Parkerw207: recent core 2 duo laptop?
[04:04] <Parkerw207> well its not a laptop
[04:04] <Parkerw207> but its core duo
[04:04] <kirk> ill check out gparted first before i start putting in commands i know nothing about
[04:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> then it's probably not the santa rosa issue
[04:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> make sure the disc burned correctly
[04:05] <aantipop> wow whats the difference between aptitude clean and autoclean ?
[04:05] <kirk> it says gparted is a GNOME Partition Editor, is that compatiable with kubuntu?
[04:05] <Parkerw207> its one they sent me in the post , the old version i know , but i was just seeing how it fairs with my wifi network adapter , i know the trouble linux has with wifi
[04:06] <aantipop> ah "man aptitude"
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> the trouble linux has with wifi is slowly but surely becoming like the trouble linux used to have with cable modems
[04:06] <aantipop> how do i leave manpages ? ctrl + c doesnt work
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was worded wrong
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> aantipop: q
[04:07] <aantipop> aah, thanks
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> at any rate, wireless issues continually get fixed and it's getting less and less painful to use wireless in linux
[04:07] <Parkerw207> yes i am aware of that and i am not completely dumb when it comes to computer so i think i would be able to sort any problems that come up , but the fact that it doesnt even load in live mode is a concern
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would agree with you
[04:07] <Parkerw207> i mean , my machine is a very powerfull one so i was a tad shocked when it sat there idle
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> does it drop to busybox or do anything?
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> Parkerw207: if it's fairly new (last 5-6 months or so) it could be an issue with the intel platform, OR you have a newer ati graphics card which is notoriously unreliable (again, for now)
[04:09] <Parkerw207> hmm , no , its shows that everything loads ok , all the hardware drivers , abstraction layer etc... but then when its about to load up the GUI i asume , its stalls
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl+alt+f2 take you to a vt?
[04:09] <Parkerw207> i built it just after may , the components are new as far as i am aware , how long they have been out i am not sure
[04:10] <Parkerw207> i havent tried that
[04:10] <Parkerw207> i am a bit of a linux newbie but i can get my head around most problems
[04:10] <Parkerw207> and its not just kubuntu , its ubuntu , suse and fedora that dont work either
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> all live cds?
[04:11] <Parkerw207> yes
[04:11] <Parkerw207> so it must be hardware related i assume
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> try the alternate install cd
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> it sounds like there's a general issue with livecds, i have the same problem here
[04:12] <genii> By any chance it it some Intel i810 video card? The vesa driver in xorg.conf for that needs to be changed if it's the case
[04:13] <Parkerw207> ahhh i now remeber what CPU i have , intel pentium D 3.2ghz dual core , and no i dont think i have that card
[04:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> nvidia or ati?
[04:13] <Parkerw207> my graphics chip uses RADEON X800GT\
[04:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...well then...
[04:13] <bjwebb> hmm
[04:13] <bjwebb> i can't move my mouse
[04:15] <Parkerw207> i would of thought them components were old enough to be supported
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> I used to use ubuntu on the same CPU, no problem
[04:16] <Parkerw207> yes i know , i dont think its the CPU somehow
[04:16] <genii> Parkerw207: Well, something to try some kernel options at boot. Specifically there noacpi worked for my desktop Pentium D system.
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> possibly a motherboard issue
[04:17] <Parkerw207> i use an ASUS motherboard if i remember rightly lol
[04:17] <genii> Also there was an issue with some pcmcia driver keep wanting to load which was freezing the system, let me see if i can find the link
[04:17] <genii> Parkerw207: Asus board here too, P5K-SE
[04:18] <kirk> i plan on using this disk as storage, when i format while file system should i use?
[04:18] <Parkerw207> i am not to sure whihc one mine is i shall just go find out
[04:18] <kirk> which*
[04:18] <Parkerw207> P5VD2-MX
[04:18] <Daisuke-Ido> kirk: is it going to be shared between windows and linux?
[04:18] <slawek> HOW TO RUN MACROMEDIA FIREWORKS?
[04:19] <slawek> PLEASE FAST HELP!
[04:19] <kirk> no
[04:19] <kirk> only running kubuntu
[04:19] <kirk> its just going to be storage
[04:19] <aantipop> ext3 then
[04:21] <arash> slawek, hmm,does that really work for Kubuntu? (I have no idea, but it's common Linux users use GNU substitutes)
[04:21] <Parkerw207> is it possible to install Kubuntu over the internet not using a disk ?
[04:21] <genii> Parkerw207: Anyhow, I needed to use alternate CD, then go to the busybox console and rm the file /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o   because trying to load it was stalling the system
[04:21] <Parkerw207> genii : i see , i might try that then , its annoying when things like this happen eh :P
[04:22] <genii> Parkerw207: Yes!
[04:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas All :)
[04:22] <joseph> hello everyone
[04:23] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[04:24] <dhq> genii, well the printer takes ages to print where as in windows it hardly takes 10 secs
[04:24] <joseph> does anyone know how to add a script to Konversation?
[04:24] <dhq> genii, what to do ???
[04:25] <xp_killer> !hi | joseph
[04:25] <ubotu> joseph: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:25] <web> Hi all. Do you speak Russian?
[04:25] <genii> dhq: In the end it does print correctly however?
[04:25] <dhq> genii, we have a problem of electricity here
[04:26] <dhq> genii, i need it fast
[04:26] <xp_killer> dhq: get an genarator
[04:26] <n8k99> !rs
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <dhq> xp_killer, ???
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !ru | web
[04:26] <ubotu> web:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:26] <genii> xp_killer: If he's using a 9 pin dot matrix printer i imagine not much cash for generators :)
[04:26] <n8k99> thanks BluesKaj
[04:27] <xp_killer> tru

[04:28] <genii> dhq: The only thing i could suggest is to give printing a higher priority by what is called "renicing" the process. You make the computer give it higher priority
[04:29] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: how do i open a port
[04:30] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: and if i do open one will someone see it?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, on a router?
[04:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was installing a screensaver called kcomet3.  When I tried to compile it, it asked for the kde headers. I installed the kde headers but it installed all of kde 3.5.x and now I have lost all my icons on all tool bars. How can I correct that?
[04:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know how to start the kdewizard?
[04:35] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: kpersonalizer
[04:37] <ubuntu> what is the live cd default user and password ?
[04:37] <X1398> hi
[04:37] <X1398> may be root?
[04:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't see my tool bars. I have them selected to be displayed but they don't show up on my applications
[04:38] <ubuntu> X1398 , yes but what is the passowrD?
[04:38] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, kde desktop or gnome?
[04:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> kde
[04:38] <X1398> n0 password? or even root
[04:38] <ubuntu> and there is also "ubuntu" user what is his password ?
[04:38] <X1398> or kubuntu try some
[04:39] <X1398> ubuntu ubuntu?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, that's cuz you have to configure kde to your liking , it doesn't transfer your settings from gnoem
[04:39] <arash> I'm wondering , is Koffice better than OpenOffice?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> err gnome
[04:39] <X1398> openoffice is my prefered
[04:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj, I don't use gnome.
[04:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> :)
[04:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was trying to install a screen saver that needed the kde header files installed
[04:40] <arash> I dont even seem to be able to find them in adept-insalltion... is it really that bad?
[04:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> I selected to install it and apt-get installed all of kde 3.5
[04:40] <X1398> my kubuntu doesn't boot -.- only debug an startx does it
[04:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, all of my tool bars (doesn't matter what application it is) aren't appearing.
[04:41] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, sounds to me like you re-installed a different version of kde than the onew you were using
[04:41] <rjb> argh, a compile with gcc just crashed my machine:(
[04:41] <ubuntu> X1398 , no it isnt
[04:41] <X1398> ubuntu: -.-
[04:41] <deviance> Whata  good program for video editing?
[04:42] <deviance> !videoediting
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videoediting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <X1398> ubuntu: u use kde?
[04:42] <Jucato> !info kdenlive
[04:42] <ubotu> Package kdenlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:42] <Jucato> hm.
[04:42] <X1398> ubuntu: i mean the kubuntu version?
[04:42] <ubuntu> X1398 , yes and im on live cd
[04:42] <BluesKaj> deviance, most ppl recommend avidemux , although i've seldom used it
[04:42] <ubuntu> X1398 , yes
[04:43] <X1398> ubuntu: may be my internet should work porbably now mom
[04:43] <deviance> Cool
[04:43] <ksivaji> what does GTK stand for ?
[04:44] <SlimeyPete> GNOME ToolKit (used to be GIMP ToolKit)
[04:44] <joseph> does anyone know how to add a script to Konversation?
[04:44] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: err. no
[04:44] <Jucato> it's still the GIMP Tool Kit
[04:45] <ubuntu> someone ?
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> oh right. OK... I'm sure I had this conversation on freenode quite recently and was told it was now Gnome
[04:45] <Jucato> joseph: just put the bash/python script in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ then add a command alias
[04:46] <ksivaji> how far GTK is used by programmers
[04:46] <SlimeyPete> ksivaji: it's used a lot
[04:46] <joseph> thanks jucato
[04:46] <ksivaji> is it worth to learn GTK or something else is better
[04:46] <X1398> ubuntu: ?
[04:46] <Jucato> GTK and Qt both
[04:46] <X1398> ubuntu: found something
[04:47] <SlimeyPete> ksivaji: some people prefer QT. KDE uses QT.
[04:47] <ksivaji> !QT
[04:47] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[04:48] <rediz_> help pls
[04:48] <Parkerw207> does anyone know where you can find detailed lists of Wifi cards that wokr out of the box with Kubuntu ?
[04:48] <X1398> do i have to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[04:49] <SlimeyPete> X1398: if you want 3D support, yes. Otherwise, no.
[04:51] <rediz_> cant get wifi card (belkin) working. anybody got any ideas please
[04:51] <ubuntu> someone know the password for : ubuntu user in livecd ?
[04:51] <rediz_> what support for wifi is there
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !wifi
[04:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <rediz_> cheers m8t
[04:54] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | rediz_
[04:54] <ubotu> rediz_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <BluesKaj> ok, 3 diff commands give the same response .
[04:55] <Parkerw207> does anyone here use wifi and kubuntu succesfully ? if so could you name the network card you use?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> Parkerw207, dunno for sure but broadcom cards seem to have more trouble than most
[04:57] <Parkerw207> hmm , see i have a D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510 Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C) and that doesnt work , but aprently (rev.A) does
[04:57] <Parkerw207> hwo annoying , i just wondered if anyone knew of one that worked straight otut of the box
[04:58] <ksivaji> Jucato :if glxinfo shows direct rendering : no how to set it to yes
[04:58] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: to open a port on my router it askin me for and adress does kotepe have an adress?and for the port if i open one like 12 do i have to add a next one like 13
[04:59] <Jucato> ksivaji: install the driver for your video card that will give you 3D hardware acceleration (nvidia or ati)
[04:59] <ksivaji> Jucato driver is a software or hardware
[05:00] <Jucato> software
[05:00] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, is kopete asking for that port ?
[05:00] <ksivaji> Jucato can i install any driver or it depends on my hardware ?
[05:00] <Jucato> ksivaji: of course it depends on your video card. you can't install an nvidia driver for an ati video card
[05:01] <ksivaji> Jucato how to find vedio driver for my hardware
[05:01] <Jucato> what is your video card?
[05:02] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: no but for me to send i file to someone i never got true so i read on a website that i need to open a port to send files to my friends
[05:02] <reallyjoel> What exactly is a 'session'? Is it a RAM-dump, or a list of running processes? Or something else?
[05:03] <Jucato> reallyjoel: what do you mean?
[05:03] <ksivaji> Jucato http://pastebin.com/d7659f82
[05:03] <reallyjoel> You can save 'sessions'
[05:03] <reallyjoel> I want to know what is saved
[05:03] <Jucato> hold a sec
[05:04] <reallyjoel> probably not a ram-dump..
[05:04] <Jucato> reallyjoel: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/quickstart/logging-out.html#session-management
[05:04] <reallyjoel> thanks
[05:04] <Jucato> definitely not a ram dump. that would be standby/suspend
[05:05] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, don't open ports below 1100 as a rule unless required by the client thru a special server
[05:06] <deviance> What is the highest port avalible?
[05:06] <reallyjoel> Ah, it's up to the specific app to decide what to do.. that explains some
[05:06] <Jucato> ksivaji: you're video card is a built-in S3 unichrome. I don't think there is a driver for it that will give you direct rendering. you need a "real" video card
[05:06] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: ok but my routor askin for an adress i dont understand
[05:06] <Jucato> reallyjoel: it's really more like a snapshot of the state of KDE
[05:07] <Jucato> in a way it's like suspend I think (or that type that writes the state to the disk)
[05:08] <ksivaji> Jucato why we dont have driver for built-in S3 unichrome.
[05:08] <corrado> ho istallato xmms con i relativi codec ma quando faccio partire un mp3 dopo qualche secondo non si sente pi l'audio come posso fare ?
[05:08] <Jucato> ksivaji: we don
[05:08] <slackern> deviance: 65536 is the highest port available i think
[05:08] <Jucato> ksivaji: we don't have a driver that will give you direct rendering
[05:08] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, what is the name of the address?
[05:09] <deviance> Cool :D
[05:09] <Pupeno> How do I configure a list of domain names to search when resolving? modifing /etc/resolv.conf is not good enough, it gets overwritten.
[05:09] <wers> how do I prevent beagle from running automatically whenever I log in?
[05:09] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: its kopete im using not a website im going to
[05:09] <ksivaji> Jucato but windows has driver for built-in S3 unichrome
[05:10] <Lunenfeld> does KDE (gutsy) mount external HDs automatically?
[05:10] <Jucato> ksivaji: so does linux. but neither of them have drivers that do direct rendering
[05:10] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, can you access port mapping on you router ?
[05:11] <Jucato> ksivaji: all hardware need drivers in order for you to use them. in the case of video card drivers, you need one with 3D hardware acceleration to be able to have direct rendering
[05:11] <Pupeno> Lunenfeld: Kubuntu does mount external HDs automatically.
[05:11] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: yes
[05:11] <deviance> !ftp
[05:11] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:11] <Jucato> ksivaji: in short, you are already using a driver right now, but not a driver that will give you direct rendering. and most built-in video cards don't have those special kind of drivers
[05:11] <Lunenfeld> Pupeno and there should be an icon created on the desktop for a mounted volume, right?
[05:11] <slackern> deviance: if you are running gutsy you could try out filezilla it's in the repos
[05:11] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: http://kopete.kde.org/faq.php#id2291952 this is the website i read wa they wat port to open http://kopete.kde.org/faq.php#id2291952
[05:11] <reallyjoel> is there statistics over how many linux users uses gnome versus kde?
[05:11] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, ok go to port mapping and open the tcp/udp port numder that kopete wants to use
[05:11] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: msn
[05:11] <Pupeno> Lunenfeld: mounted or not, the icon should be there.
[05:12] <deviance> slackern: I'm on feisty
[05:12] <Lunenfeld> Pupeno what if not. How could i access the HD anyway?
[05:12] <slackern> deviance: ahh alright, not sure if it's there
[05:12] <Pupeno> Lunenfeld: look into how to use the mount command.
[05:12] <Pupeno> Lunenfeld: the dmesg command can help you find the divice name.
[05:12] <deviance> Doesnt appear to be slackern
[05:12] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: go to wat?mapping? i taught u mean if i can get in my router
[05:13] <dwuomo> alguien en espaol?
[05:13] <Lunenfeld> Pupeno ok thanks!
[05:13] <deviance> I'm try casablanca though
[05:13] <ksivaji> Jucato ok ok i am clear
[05:13] <Pupeno> !es
[05:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:13] <Pupeno> !es to dwuomo
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es to dwuomo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <ksivaji> !Motif
[05:13] <ninhobomba> hello.. is there anyway to get monitor mode on ndiswrapper?... my findings on google seem disappointing
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, that's what the operation is called , when you open or close a port on your router it's called port mapping...in your case you need to open tcp port 6891 for an application.
[05:15] <Search4Lancer> how do I either boot directly to a terminal, or get out of Xfce right now to a terminal?
[05:16] <Pupeno> Search4Lancer: ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to a terminal.
[05:16] <Pupeno> Search4Lancer: I don't know of a way to boot to a terminal, unless you boot in sigle-user mode.
[05:16] <Search4Lancer> ah... I was doing ctrl-alt-backspace, thanks
[05:17] <Pupeno> Search4Lancer: ctrl-alt-F1..12 will give you different terminals, one being the grafical one.
[05:17] <X1398> dont post things like ctrl-alt-backspace may be one of the newbies press is and want to get alle the free stuff xD
[05:18] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: and how do i do that?
[05:18] <X1398> xD
[05:19] <kenny> have any of you tried the kde4 beta 2 packages yet?
[05:19] <ksivaji> its time for google to shutdown ,see "ask" search engine
[05:19] <ksivaji> really super
[05:19] <X1398> ask what
[05:19] <X1398> frozen dont press it again xD
[05:20] <kenny> the reason i ask is because on the new panel i keep getting "object can not be created" messages
[05:20] <ksivaji> X1398 it is a search engine
[05:21] <X1398> ksivaji: for what
[05:21] <X1398> www?ftp?files?my room?
[05:21] <Jucato> kenny: because the object for that is found in something not packaged by Kubuntu
[05:21] <savage_lunch> mmmm...wtf? ask?
[05:21] <savage_lunch> ask isn't like google
[05:22] <kenny> Jucato, thnks, is this something that we need to compile ourselves?  i find it odd that the instructions say to use plasma, but i don't see anything to use
[05:22] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, what router do you have?...I'm sure you router has a manufacturer's website with a how to tutorial on ''port mapping"
[05:23] <Jucato> kenny: the standard plasma is already there. but there are others that are in development that are found in KDE's svn. yes you have to compile them yourselves. but you might have to compile KDE 4's kdesupport, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase for it
[05:24] <ksivaji> savage_lunch your correct ask is better than google
[05:24] <ksivaji> savage_lunch you are*  correct ask is better than google
[05:25] <kenny> Jucato, gotcha.  I'll have to play around with that later, thanks for the info!
[05:25] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: livebox
[05:25] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, ask = question
[05:25] <ironfroggy> how can i reset my X config from the command line?
[05:26] <ninhobomba> does anybody know a way to get listen mode on a broadcom using ndiswrapper?
[05:26] <ironfroggy> i tried to configure what monitor i have, because the generic doesn't allow a high enough res. but now x wont start.
[05:26] <BluesKaj> well xp_killer , look for your router instructions ... maybe you have a booklet at home or there's one on the net ...they are all differnt ..time for you to do some research on your own.
[05:26] <X1398> help, i clicked in konquerer on a file and i got opend up with KATE is this file somewhere in temp or so?
[05:27] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: ok
[05:28] <X1398> where does konqueror save temp files from downloads?
[05:29] <stdin> X1398: in /tmp/$USER-kde
[05:29] <ninhobomba> please... i need help getting monitor mode to work on my wifi... pretty please?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... choose the plugnplay monitor setting until you can figure out which graphics and monitor drivers to use .
[05:29] <stdin> X1398:  erm kde-$USER
[05:30] <ironfroggy> there is not a setting for my monitor. i tried a model very near to it, but no go.
[05:31] <X1398> stdin: its not there -.-  ive downloaded linuxdriver from nvidia it got opened up with kate i closed it without save
[05:32] <stdin> X1398: when it's closed it's normally gone, and why don't you use the ubuntu packages?
[05:33] <X1398> stdin: what packages? There isnt a 8800GTX in there ...
[05:33] <stdin> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <xp_killer> stdin: i have the driver for my ati graph card i falow the instruction but they told me the file does not exsit.why?
[05:35] <stdin> xp_killer: who told you what doesn't exist?
[05:36] <xp_killer> stdin: dos
[05:36] <cedric__> hi all, do you know a french irc canal ?
[05:36] <stdin> huh? that doesn't answer my question
[05:36] <stdin> !fr | cedric__
[05:36] <ubotu> cedric__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:37] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, one can find the right hardware driver on the web most of the time, even tho it's not listed in system settings
[05:37] <xp_killer> stdin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3-2 at the part where they say replace <version> by the name of your driver u download
[05:38] <stdin> xp_killer: why are you using the download, and not the package?
[05:39] <xp_killer> stdin: fglrx?
[05:39] <ironfroggy> well i should just need the sync ranges, right?
[05:39] <stdin> xp_killer: xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:39] <shanky> I'm trying to install a new printer, in kubuntu gutsy, but I can't select the proper driver from the printer assistant
[05:41] <ksivaji> !guisty
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guisty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <ksivaji> !gusty
[05:41] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[05:41] <ksivaji> !guTSy
[05:41] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <xp_killer> stdin: i tink it's install allready but 10hours ago my resolution disapair and i could get it back so i perfer install the one that was ment for my graph card.and even beryl freez my pc sometimes
[05:41] <shanky> I have an epson stylus dx3800, but there are few edpson stylus availables in the assistant
[05:41] <stdin> ksivaji: the bot was mocking you :p
[05:41] <Jucato> stdin: he mocked the bot back :)
[05:41] <shanky> ksivaji: thanks
[05:42] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, there are other requirements besides ranges but choosing a medium range should get you back to X
[05:42] <jm87> hi
[05:42] <ksivaji> stdin leave it ,it is just a machine
[05:42] <stdin> xp_killer: there is no driver "for your graphics card" there is only one linux driver
[05:42] <xp_killer> stdin: how do i know what drivers kubuntu came with for ati?
[05:42] <ksivaji> shanky thanks for what
[05:43] <shanky> ksivaji: for pointing me to #ubuntu+1
[05:43] <stdin> xp_killer: it comes with the free version, you have to choose to install the non-free one
[05:43] <xp_killer> stdin: therss no drivers?so why linux tell me i have an ati?
[05:43] <ksivaji> shanky i was searching for gusty release date
[05:43] <shaffy> does anyone know a quick command to uninstall the gnome/ubuntu desktop?  (i'm running kubuntu now on a previous ubuntu laptop)
[05:43] <jm87> how i use azerus
[05:44] <jm87> to download file
[05:44] <ironfroggy> i cant find any settings that get me over 800x600
[05:44] <xp_killer> stdin: since i install linux with my ati in the pc it change and i can finaly use beryl
[05:44] <stdin> xp_killer: there is only one binary driver for ALL ati
[05:44] <Jucato> shaffy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:44] <ksivaji> stdin it seems linux doent have driver for many hardware
[05:44] <stdin> xp_killer: the version in feisty is 7.1.0-8.34.8
[05:44] <xp_killer> stdin: just one?and that one is good for all?
[05:44] <shaffy> Jucato:  thanks bro.  much appreciated.
[05:45] <stdin> xp_killer: no, but there is only one
[05:45] <stdin> xp_killer: ATI control it and sometimes remove support for some cards
[05:46] <xp_killer> stdin: well on this web site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3-2 they tell me how to install the driver for my card witch i want to do
[05:46] <freepenguin> hello men
[05:46] <stdin> xp_killer: follow _this_ one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[05:48] <xp_killer> stdin: fglrx is allready install
[05:48] <xp_killer> stdin: by default
[05:49] <stdin> xp_killer: no
[05:49] <stdin> xp_killer: it's not
[05:49] <xp_killer> stdin: no?so how do i check to see if it's is or not?
[05:49] <vist_killer> heheh
[05:49] <sven_oostenbrink> I can not save anything in Open office.. I have a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install. Whenever I try save as, the file window that shows, tries to load the contents of /home/user, but it stays at 0%.. I can select sub directories there though, but save does NOT work
[05:50] <stdin> xp_killer: it will use the free "ati" driver by default, you have to install fglrx and enable it
[05:50] <yurimxpxman> does the lpr command support ODT files?
[05:51] <radius> !gutsy channel
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutsy channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <radius> what's the channel for gutsy questions again
[05:51] <PhinnFort> how do I get java support in firefox?
[05:51] <stdin> !gutsy
[05:51] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <stdin> !java | PhinnFort
[05:51] <ubotu> PhinnFort: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:51] <radius> thanks
[05:51] <PhinnFort> stdin: I've looked at it, and there's no sun-java6-plugin for amd64
[05:52] <Lustblader> how to mount windows fat32 drives in kubuntu live cd????
[05:52] <PhinnFort> java seems to work in konqueror (which uses it's own pluginthingy), but all applets break
[05:52] <Jucato> !flash64
[05:52] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:52] <stdin> PhinnFort: on that page there are instructions for amd64
[05:52] <PhinnFort> stdin: ah, thanks, didn't scroll far down enough:P
[05:53] <MacZtttlkwork> Hi
[05:53] <PhinnFort> thanks
[05:53] <MacZtttlkwork> anybody here using the ATI open source Xorg's driver? "radeon"
[05:53] <Lustblader> how to mount windows fat32 drives in kubuntu live cd????
[05:53] <PhinnFort> meh, so much hassle just to use my bank
[05:53] <SlimeyPete> !fat32
[05:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:54] <MacZtttlkwork> !radeon
[05:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <xp_killer> stdin: ok i run sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager what do i do next?becaus the tuto tell me to go in System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers witch i dont see
[05:56] <stdin> xp_killer: you're supposed to follow the edgy instructions, it says "Note: If you use Kubuntu then follow the instructions for 6.10 (Edgy)--"
[05:56] <Lustblader> i want to mount them in the live cd
[05:56] <PhinnFort> I just had a fun experience... with java in ie in wine
[05:56] <PhinnFort> my screen went black
[05:57] <xp_killer> stdin: arf it install symnatic
[05:57] <xp_killer> :(
[05:57] <soulrider> !sound
[05:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:57] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, no BSOD ? :)
[05:58] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: well, I suspect it's the intel graphics driver that doesn't like something wine does with java
[05:58] <PhinnFort> but at least I got in
[05:59] <xp_killer> stdin: how do i check if fglrx is not disabled?
[05:59] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, I haven't tried that yet IE in Wine , sounds interesting :)
[05:59] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: 32-bit?
[06:00] <stdin> xp_killer: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure it has a line with: Deiver "fglrx"
[06:00] <PhinnFort> or how do you do java?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> I don't actively do java
[06:01] <freepenguin> Guardate dove  finita l'istruzione italiana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTym-NfHR_w
[06:02] <slint> can someone help me out with my xserver?
[06:03] <xp_killer> stdin: i did ctrl+f for fglrx theres no line with fglrx
[06:03] <slint> i got it working, but everytime i reboot i have to reconfig
[06:03] <slint> someone please help me out with this
[06:03] <stdin> xp_killer: did you follow all the instructions ?
[06:04] <stdin> xp_killer: did you install fglrx-control and run "sudo depmod -a" then "sudo aticonfig --initial" and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" ?
[06:04] <slint> stdin everytime i restart i have to use those commands or i get a black screen
[06:04] <slint> any ideas as to why?
[06:04] <xp_killer> stdin: no :p
[06:05] <stdin> slint: no, not really. I don't use ATI so I've never had to use those commands. have you tried asking in #ubuntu-effects ? they know more about the drivers than I do
[06:07] <slint> stdin thanks
[06:09] <eder> i need to know how to uninstall Nvidia Drivers
[06:10] <IppatsuManXYZ> eder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg - this won't delete the nvidia's drivers, but X won't use them anymore
[06:11] <eder> Ok IppatsuManXYZ let me try
[06:11] <eder> see ya in a minute
[06:15] <xp_killer> stdin: i dont have a section  "Extensions" in xorg
[06:16] <stdin> xp_killer: you can add it
[06:17] <xp_killer> stdin: just like that?anywhere?
[06:17] <stdin> xp_killer: like it says, at the bottom
[06:17] <xp_killer> :p
[06:17] <rediz_> cant cd /home/kfreeflight
[06:18] <rediz_> any ideas
[06:18] <rediz_> in terminal cant change directory past home
[06:19] <rediz_> says no file or folder when it  is there
[06:19] <rediz_> its doing my head in
[06:20] <rediz_> anyone help plz(newbie)
[06:20] <pag> rediz_, it's usually /home/YourUserName/kfreeflight or something like that
[06:20] <rediz_> yeah btryed that but wont
[06:20] <ubuntu> hi
[06:21] <ubuntu> I am new
[06:21] <pag> rediz_, tried " cd && ls " already?
[06:21] <pag> !hi | ubuntu
[06:21] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:21] <eder> Hi to everyone
[06:21] <ubuntu> could you tell me is there any wifi on Munich airport ?
[06:22] <pag> Hello eder :)
[06:22] <eder> :D
[06:22] <eder> look i have a problem
[06:22] <eder> i have an Nvidia FX 5200 and i cant configure it
[06:22] <rediz_> cant  cd /rediz(says no)
[06:22] <eder> can you help me pag?
[06:22] <JuJuBee_> I have a usb->db9 converter so I can use minicom to console to a router.  When configuring minicom, what /dev do I use for it?
[06:22] <pag> rediz_, cd /home/rediz  or simply cd ~
[06:23] <Stilo> how can i make a screenshot of my compiz fusion cube
[06:23] <Stilo> ?
[06:23] <pag> !nv | eder
[06:23] <rediz_> pag help plz
[06:23] <ubotu> eder: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <shaffy> help anyone?  i just uninstalled ubuntu on my system which already had kubuntu on it.  my kubuntu has been acting a little strange now.  i'm wondering if there is a command i can run to see whether or not all necessary kubuntu components are installed.
[06:23] <xp_killer> stdin: after add the section do i have to press ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:23] <eder> let em see ubotu
[06:23] <ubuntu> also looking for usb linux ?
[06:23] <xp_killer> stdin: i dont understan the part after adding the section
[06:23] <ubuntu> anyone knows ?
[06:23] <stdin> xp_killer: logout and choose "Restart the X server" from KDM
[06:23] <ubunturos> !DSL
[06:23] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:24] <ubunturos> ubuntu: you can have a look at MCNLive or Damn Small Linux
[06:24] <Stilo> help plz :)
[06:24] <ubuntu> thx
[06:24] <ubunturos> ubuntu: have a look at distrowatch.com for details of these
[06:25] <pag> Stilo, "Print screen" -button should work... scrot will work too, but it's little harder to use
[06:26] <stdin> you can get KSnapshot to delay the screen print, that's probably easiest
[06:26] <Stilo> only press Print?
[06:26] <eder> im trying with Envy
[06:26] <pag> !envy | eder
[06:27] <ubotu> eder: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:27] <rediz_> pag got into dir kflight but when i konsole make install it wont
[06:28] <eder> ok ubotu, let me try the official driver
[06:28] <pag> rediz_, " ./configure && make && sudo make install "
[06:29] <ubuntu> mcnlive nice
[06:29] <ubuntu> but how to install on flashdisk on windows xp sp2 ?
[06:30] <shaffy> can anyone tell me how i find out what version of kde i am running?
[06:31] <pag> shaffy, probably not the best way, but open konsole and type " konsole --version "
[06:31] <stdin> shaffy: or just go to Help > About KDE in any kde app
[06:31] <vist_killer> konsole -v
[06:32] <shaffy> thanks.  much appreciated guys
[06:33] <eder> ubotu im downloading 1.0-9755 driver
[06:33] <stdin> !bot | eder
[06:33] <ubotu> eder: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:33] <soulrider> !sound
[06:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <JuJuBee_> I just finished installing a fresh copy of kubuntu on 14 computer in my lab. I used the dpk --get-selections > my_packages trick to get all the computers to have all the packages as my model computer.  For some reason, some of the computers do not have all the same packages available like netbeans for example.  Why is that? and how do I correct it?
[06:33] <JuJuBee_> I tried to Fetch Updates.
[06:33] <eder> well im trying 1.0-9755 driver
[06:33] <pag> eder, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:34] <eder> who can tell me if is allright?
[06:34] <stdin> JuJuBee_: did you make sure they all have the same repositories set?
[06:34] <rediz_> pag wot does && mean
[06:34] <pag> eder, (or just use Adept)
[06:34] <eder> let me try pag
[06:34] <JuJuBee_> I burned 14 copies of the exact same image of kubuntu
[06:34] <JuJuBee_> I guessed that they would be the same.
[06:35] <pag> rediz_, "and" Bash recognises that syntax. so ie. "do something && after that do another"
[06:35] <pag> "another thing" I mean :)
[06:36] <stdin> JuJuBee_: did you did "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" yes?
[06:36] <JuJuBee_> Yes.
[06:36] <stdin> JuJuBee_: well, they should all have the same things on them then, just check the sources.list anyway, to make sure then all have universe/multiverse
[06:37] <rediz_> got ya ;-)
[06:37] <rediz_> still cant get it going
[06:37] <JuJuBee_> I'll give it a try.  Thanks stdin.
[06:38] <pag> rediz_, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) the output of ./configure
[06:38] <eder> K, see ya in a minute
[06:40] <JuJuBee_> stdin : the sources.list is the same on both computers.  One has netbeans to install the other does not.
[06:41] <sven_oostenbrink> I can not save anything in Open office.. I have a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install. Whenever I try save as, the file window that shows, tries to load the contents of /home/user, but it stays at 0%.. I can select sub directories there though, but save does NOT work
[06:42] <stdin> JuJuBee_: you could try "sudo dselect install"
[06:43] <JuJuBee_> Yep, brb
[06:43] <JuJuBee_> On which computer the one that was good or bad?
[06:44] <rediz_> pag pasteed output ./configure
[06:45] <pag> rediz_, you could also give the link to the paste, it makes things far more easier ;)
[06:45] <rediz_> too newbie not shaw wot mean
[06:46] <rediz_> wot wwas the link
[06:46] <pag> rediz_, after you pressed "Paste" pastebin redirected you to a new page, with adress like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2354 (or something like that)
[06:47] <rediz_> then what?
[06:47] <npurciful> Where would i make a complaint about the ubufox firefox extension that is install by default?
[06:47] <rediz_> does it do
[06:47] <jhutchins>  Or we could all just try to guess where your paste went, because it's so very important to us.
[06:47] <pag> rediz_, paste that adress here, so we can find your paste
[06:47] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, it sounds like a permissions problem. Perhaps the file you're trying to save to is protected ?
[06:47] <JuJuBee_> stdin : asking me if I want to erase any previously .deb files?
[06:48] <stdin> JuJuBee_: you can say no I guess
[06:48] <rediz_> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized
[06:48] <rediz_> configure: error: /bin/sh admin/config.sub i686-pc-linux-oldld failed
[06:48] <rediz_> that come up wheni ./configure
[06:49] <rediz_> arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg
[06:49] <npurciful> what is the gusty dev room
[06:49] <pag> rediz_, hmm.. I have no idea what that means.. maybe someone else knows?
[06:50] <stdin> !gutsy | npurciful
[06:50] <ubotu> npurciful: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:50] <rediz_> linux is hard. but i like it
[06:50] <eder> well pag, im back
[06:50] <rediz_> i'm too nebie to understand
[06:50] <rediz_> *newbie
[06:50] <pag> eder, did it work?
[06:50] <eder> nop T_T
[06:51] <eder> i used the lastest nvidia Driver
[06:51] <BluesKaj> stdin, has the Gutsy release date been released yet ? :)
[06:51] <eder> wich suppose to support my Nvidia
[06:51] <eder> and still nothing
[06:51] <npurciful> thanks
[06:51] <stdin> BluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule :)
[06:51] <eder> pag, what do you think about automatix?
[06:51] <pag> eder, it just did nothing or the X (graphical mode) didn't start?
[06:52] <eder> the X didnt start
[06:52] <pag> !automatix | eder
[06:52] <stdin> !automatix | stdin thinks this about automatix
[06:52] <ubotu> eder: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:52] <BluesKaj> stdin, cool :)
[06:52] <ubotu> stdin thinks this about automatix: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:52] <eder> i have to restart it
[06:53] <rediz_> thanks for help pag. i'm getting there slowly but surley
[06:53] <eder> what i do now pag?
[06:53] <arash> Hi guys, I have had this problem for a long while, I'm wondering if I can change which sound output sould be active? for example that Headphones should be priored to loudspeakers in case of being plugges n, or vice verse. Somone gave me help in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3353582#post3353582 , but I didnt understand what the poster meant :p
[06:53] <JuJuBee_> stdin : now what?
[06:54] <JuJuBee_> after answering no to erasing .deb files, it quit.
[06:54] <pag> eder, my suggest would be "instll the drivers from the apt and enable them manually in xorg.conf" but it's easier said than done :)
[06:54] <stdin> JuJuBee_: that should read the selections from 'dpkg --set-selections" and install the packages, if it quit it thinks it's done
[06:54] <eder> can you explain me please pag?
[06:55] <pag> eder, sure. " sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[06:56] <eder> pag what mean &&?
[06:56] <pag> eder, "and"
[06:56] <eder> i see
[06:56] <gnomefreak> if first doesnt fail
[06:56] <pag> eder, you can either split that command or just copy-paste it as-is
[06:56] <gnomefreak> ;; == run anyway iirc
[06:56] <JuJuBee_> stdin : what is the command to update the db from cli?
[06:56] <eder> can make it without close the X?
[06:56] <pag> gnomefreak, thanks :)
[06:56] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:56] <stdin> JuJuBee_: you mean "sudo apt-get update" ?
[06:57] <JuJuBee_> Thanks.
[06:57] <pag> eder, yup.
[06:57] <eder> Thanks pag, let me try
[06:57] <pag> eder, actually; you shouldn't close X, since kate is graphical app
[06:57] <shaffy> is there an application in kubuntu that i can use to check my sources.list and keys?
[06:57] <JuJuBee_> Still no netbeans available.
[06:57] <eder> pag, and in the xorg.conf, what i do?
[06:58] <pag> shaffy, Adept Manager has that function iirc
[06:58] <shaffy> thanks pag.  i'm gonna check it out now
[06:58] <pag> eder, backup it first (save as)
[06:58] <eder> K
[06:58] <JuJuBee_> stdin : netbeans still not avail for install.
[06:58] <eder> now what?
[06:59] <pag> eder, then re-open it ( kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[06:59] <stdin> JuJuBee_: are they on feisty?
[06:59] <pag> eder, and find the line " Driver "nv" "
[06:59] <JuJuBee_> YEs
[06:59] <rediz_> help please cant login as root
[06:59] <rediz_> how do i login as root
[06:59] <pag> eder, there you should change "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:59] <stdin> JuJuBee_: are you trying to install "netbeans" or "netbeans5.5" ?
[06:59] <pag> !rootsudo | rediz_
[07:00] <ubotu> rediz_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <eder> k, pag let me try
[07:00] <JuJuBee_> neither, apt-cache search netbeans
[07:00] <stdin> !root | rediz_
[07:00] <ubotu> rediz_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:00] <JuJuBee_> tried looking in adept as well and not there.
[07:00] <stdin> JuJuBee_: are they all x86 or are some amd64?
[07:01] <eder> done pag, now what?
[07:01] <pag> eder, now the fun part - restart X and hope it worked (and if it didn't you should recover the backup)
[07:01] <JuJuBee_> x86
[07:01] <eder> K, pag, let me try
[07:02] <stdin> JuJuBee_: make sure they all have multiverse, it's in there
[07:02] <pag> genii, sudo -i  does pretty much the same thing, doesn't it? :)
[07:02] <stdin> !info netbeans5.5
[07:02] <ubotu> netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5-0.59 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[07:02] <JuJuBee_> Yes, it is in there.  I compared the lists from one that did work and one that did not.  Both Identical.
[07:02] <genii> pag: I'm not sure if there are any subtle differences or not. Perhaps they are equivelent
[07:04] <shaffy> does anyone know if the build-essentials package works in kubuntu, as well as ubuntu?
[07:06] <stdin> shaffy: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the GUI
[07:07] <shaffy> stdin:  okay with that said, then i am having a problem.  i can't seem to install build-essentials.  i've looked in adept manager and i've tried aptitude
[07:07] <stdin> shaffy: helps if you tell me what happened when you tried, and what's not working
[07:07] <pag> !info build-essential | shaffy
[07:07] <ubotu> shaffy: build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[07:07] <ScorpKing> hi all! how can i print file.pdf to a smb printer from cli?
[07:07] <deviance> I accidentaly clicked cut on my hard drive desktop Icon, how can I uncut it?
[07:08] <stdin> deviance: paste it again or just copy something else, it doesn't move until you paste it
[07:08] <eder> im back pag
[07:08] <deviance> Okay, :P
[07:08] <eder> and didn work
[07:08] <eder> the X didnt start again
[07:09] <eder> just a black screen
[07:09] <pag> eder, any error messeges?
[07:09] <eder> nop
[07:09] <eder> just didnt start
[07:09] <pag> eder, did you try to log to a console and type 'startx'?
[07:09] <eder> yeah
[07:09] <eder> i start it
[07:09] <eder> stop it
[07:09] <eder> and start it again
[07:10] <jhutchins> eder: If you didn't get error messages in the console, you didn't start it.
[07:10] <pag> eder, and it didn't work and gave no errors at all? :O
[07:10] <eder> Ok pag, let me try again all the process
[07:10] <soulrider> !vmware
[07:10] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:11] <uga> soulrider: it'd have been nicer if workstation packs existed too. gentoo provides them
[07:11] <uga> you need a license, of course, but it's always nice that it becomes easy to installe
[07:11] <uga> *install
[07:12] <arash> Hi guys, I have had this problem for a long while, I'm wondering if I can change which sound output sould be active? for example that Headphones should be prior to loudspeakers in case of being plugged in, or vice verse. Someone gave me help in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3353582#post3353582 , but I didnt understand what the poster meant :p
[07:12] <rediz_> it worked cheers. now i can copy file into file system. cheers :-)
[07:12] <JuJuBee_> stdin : when I launch adept on each computer, one says there sare 20813 available packages and the other is 21392 available.
[07:12] <JuJuBee_> *are
[07:12] <jhutchins> arash: Usually when plugging in the headphones overrides the speaker(s) it's because of a physical switch incorporated in the headphone jack.  Not a software option.
[07:13] <jhutchins> arash: How is your software supposed to know if you have headphones plugged in?
[07:13] <stdin> JuJuBee_: looks like they have different repositories then
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> jhutchins on my vista box - some how it knows that. :)
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> well it pops up and asks "what did you just plug in' :)
[07:14] <jhutchins> Dr_Willis: Standard phone jack, or usb?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Software programable in/outputs i guess.
[07:14] <ubuntu> stdin: after restartin x server linux never reboot again xp killer
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> it just says 'headphone' on the front of the case.   Not USB.
[07:14] <jhutchins> Has some kind of detection in the hardware then.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> yea onboard sound  -  realtek somthing or another.  I dont have room for a better sound card.
[07:15] <stdin> ubuntu: I don't know, I don't use ati
[07:15] <eder> pag, im back
[07:15] <eder> now i startx
[07:15] <eder> and show errors
[07:16] <arash> jhutchins: uhu, Vista seem to have arranged the the sound output priored in a different way that is more favorable to me.  So my favorite sound outputs aint making the sound
[07:16] <ubuntu> stdin:ok how do i restor xorg from backup
[07:16] <pag> eder, and what did the errors say? :)
[07:16] <ubuntu> stdin: using cd live
[07:16] <eder> couldnt find screens
[07:17] <eder> do you remember where is the error log?
[07:17] <tuco> Hello all
[07:17] <pag> eder, somewhere under /var/log/
[07:17] <pag> !hi | tuco
[07:17] <ubotu> tuco: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:17] <eder> here is it pag
[07:18] <tuco> I want to change the theme in kdm manager, I can't see how. Have kdm installed though
[07:18] <JuJuBee_> stdin : Repo's are exactly same.  I copied and pasted htem to be safe and still there is a diff in number of available packages.
[07:18] <JuJuBee_> and no netbeans to boot
[07:18] <ubuntu> did stdin runaway?
[07:18] <stdin> ubuntu: you don't need a live cd, start in recovery mode and "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (if "xorg.conf.backup" is the backup)
[07:19] <arash> jhutchins: the bad loudspeaker seem to be connected to USB, you might think I just can plug it out, but mouse and keyboard is connected to that, sp they will be disbaled then ( my dad bought it :p ) ...
[07:19] <stdin> JuJuBee_: unless they are different versions or different architectures that shouldn't happen
[07:19] <jhutchins> arash: Blacklist the modules for it.
[07:19] <ubuntu> stdin: recover mode dont work thats why im in cd live
[07:19] <arash> jhutchins: seems interesting, How do I do that?
[07:19] <rediz_> cant get amarok to play mp3. help pls
[07:19] <pag> !mp3 | rediz_
[07:19] <ubotu> rediz_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <JuJuBee_> I agree, but it is happening.  They are identical computers dell optiplex gx620
[07:19] <stdin> ubuntu: then it's not an X issue
[07:20] <jhutchins> arash: determine which modules it uses and put them in the module blacklist file.
[07:20] <tuco> If somebody can tell me how I can change a theme in KDM please do so, this have been driving me crazy for days.
[07:20] <jhutchins> !blacklist | arash
[07:20] <ubotu> arash: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[07:20] <pag> tuco, install " kdemtheme "
[07:20] <pag> kdmtheme that is
[07:20] <stdin> JuJuBee_: you copied the sources.list and ran "sudo apt-get update" then it should work. there is no reason I know of that would stop it
[07:20] <tuco> I have it Pag
[07:21] <pag> tuco, kdesu kdmtheme  should work then
[07:21] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu.. open office and krusader both have more or less the same problem: I can navigate, but trying to write or copy a file is impossible..
[07:21] <eder> some place larger that shortText.com?
[07:22] <sven_oostenbrink> in open office, the directory box can give directory hints, but the file lister stays empty.. pressing OK to save  does nothign
[07:22] <sven_oostenbrink> krusader can navigate,  but move and copy do nothign
[07:22] <pag> tuco, or maybe not.. sorry; kdesu kcontrol  and there find it under Admin.
[07:22] <JuJuBee_> stdin : "some index files failed to download.  they have been ingnore or old ones used instead".  Think we might be on to something.
[07:23] <pag> !pastebin | eder
[07:23] <ubotu> eder: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <sven_oostenbrink> Does anybody know what could be the cause and / or solution ot this??
[07:23] <kkathman> sven_oostenbrink:  krusader works fine for me
[07:23] <sven_oostenbrink> kkathman, it normally also does for me, but now it does not.. that is the problem..
[07:23] <kkathman> but I typically dont use it
[07:23] <stdin> JuJuBee_: post the whole output of sudo apt-get update to pastebin
[07:23] <Parkerw207> heya everyone i need help with installing kubuntu on my pc
[07:23] <sven_oostenbrink> By the way, Im using a dell latitute D620, if it makess a difference
[07:23] <kkathman> I use Konqeror just cuz it allows me to do so much more
[07:24] <kkathman> sven_oostenbrink:  I'd try Konq and see if maybe you dont have those same things there
[07:24] <sven_oostenbrink> well, I dnt really need krusader.. so back to open office: I can not save any document!! Why not??
[07:24] <JuJuBee_> K, brb
[07:24] <kkathman> if you dont, then reboot
[07:24] <kkathman> otherwise, maybe restart krusader or  reboot anyways :)
[07:24] <kkathman> Im not as familiar with the way krusder actually works
[07:25] <Parkerw207> i put the disk i got into the drive and loaded it up , it went through a check list saying everything was ok , abstraction layer ok , user setup ok , then it gave me a message saying that kubuntu give no warranty , then it went back to a loading screen and just sat there
[07:25] <Parkerw207> i managed to get into.. what i think is the command line interface , but i am a linux newbie and done know how to go from there
[07:25] <sven_oostenbrink> okay, even konqueror has this problem: Its not showing any file in the listers.. what could cause this??
[07:25] <kkathman> Parkerw207:  was this with the live CD or the install cd?
[07:25] <soulrider> !virtualbox
[07:25] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:25] <Parkerw207> live cd
[07:26] <kkathman> sven_oostenbrink: hit ctrl-esc and look to see if the dcop server is running
[07:26] <tuco_> anybody knows how to install a theme in KDM please?
[07:26] <sven_oostenbrink> kkathman, I have 2 dcopserver processes running
[07:26] <Parkerw207> i am on my laptop at the moment so that i can get help and not have to keep switching lol
[07:26] <eder> pag, can you check this? http://pastebin.com/d11cb816a
[07:27] <kkathman> tuco_:  save to a directory, then open your system settings and load the theme under appearances& themes
[07:27] <sven_oostenbrink> kkathman, looks like one is root, the other is sven (me)
[07:27] <kkathman> sven_oostenbrink:  yah, ok, have you tried rebooting yet to see if it goes away?
[07:27] <tuco_> I did KK but it is greyed out
[07:27] <arash> jhutchkins, Im wondering, Is there a list of modules that are connected or something, how can I find out what name a module has?
[07:27] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[07:27] <kkathman> tuco_:  what is greyed out?
[07:28] <tuco_> The option to load the theme
[07:28] <JuJuBee_> stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37439
[07:28] <kkathman> tuco_:  kcontrol - Appearance & Theme - Theme Manager, then Install New Theme
[07:28] <arash> parkerw207 , hmm, you have not come to the desktop interface yet?
[07:29] <Parkerw207> no
[07:29] <Parkerw207> it just went back to the annoying loading screen and sat there
[07:29] <pag> eder, I'm not that good with log-files - didn't see anything wrong there..
[07:29] <Parkerw207> so i started looking for a way to get to the command line interface and then i found it
[07:29] <Parkerw207> but i dont know where to go from here
[07:29] <stdin> JuJuBee_: remove any files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/: "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*" then try again
[07:29] <eder> couldnt find screens pag
[07:30] <eder> what i do now pag?
[07:30] <arash> parkerw207, hmm, you have a 32bit CD? I remember similiar problems when puting in a 64 bit CD which I thought my comp could handle (you write from command line?)
[07:30] <tuco_> KK I have it in front of me
[07:30] <kkathman> tuco_:  ok good
[07:30] <Parkerw207> no its the 32 bit one , and i dont knwo any commands for linux i just somehow managed to get the command line up lol
[07:31] <tuco_> I did Kcontrol,have appearance and themes and sub-categories, but don't know where I can't install the kdm from
[07:31] <eder> let me try something
[07:31] <Parkerw207> ubuntu@ubuntu :$ is was i get now lol
[07:31] <kkathman> tuco_:  go to Theme Manager
[07:31] <pag> eder, I'm pretty much out of ideas... you could try to enable drivers and then reconfigure your xserver, but I'm not sure if it will help
[07:31] <arash> parkerw207 , how you conect to irc without linux experience :p ?
[07:31] <tuco_> OK yes. Just remember I am talking about the Log in theme huh!
[07:32] <Parkerw207> lol i know how to use irc , just... i dont have much experience with kubuntu not installing , i'm used to it working staight away lol
[07:32] <kkathman> tuco_:  login theme?? You mean the KDE splash or the Boot Splash?
[07:32] <Parkerw207> so anyone know a command i can type to get me into the live cd , or just to install kubuntu at any rate?
[07:32] <tuco_> Well the splash where you log in to the pc with usernam and password.
[07:32] <tuco_> username sorry.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 you may want to clarify a bit. Not sure what you are doing exactly.
[07:33] <JuJuBee_> stdin : that did the trick.  THanks heaps :)
[07:33] <arash> parkerw207 heh, Im no expert, a expert could probably give better advice, but have you tested defection on CD?
[07:33] <kkathman> tuco_:  ahh ok well that's not the "theme"
[07:33] <stdin> JuJuBee_: no problem :)
[07:33] <Parkerw207> yes i checked the disk to make sure it was ok , i did  a memory test as well
[07:33] <kkathman> thats just a splash screen
[07:34] <JuJuBee_> Now is there a way to install any packages (easily) from the previous selection without installing one at a time?
[07:34] <tuco_> Ah!
[07:34] <tuco_> I mean there are loads in Kde-look.org
[07:34] <tuco_> I download them from there but can't install them
[07:34] <Parkerw207> i basically put the cd in , it went through its normal process of checking drivers etc , gave the message saying that kubuntu doesnt give a warranty , then it went back to the loading screen and just sat there doing nothing for ages , i then tried combinations of buttons to see if i could get to the command line interface whihc is what i have infront of me now
[07:35] <rediz_> how do i check disk space?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> df -h   shows free disk space
[07:35] <Parkerw207> it says , Ubuntu@Ubuntu: $
[07:36] <JuJuBee_> stdin : is there a way to install anything that did not install from the dpkg trick?
[07:36] <Parkerw207> so i dont know where to go from here
[07:37] <stdin> JuJuBee_: try the process again, with sudo dpkg --set-selections < selections && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 sounds like the cd is having some iossues.. this is a live cd? not an alternative install cd eh? What video card do you have?
[07:37] <xp_killer> stdin: hoz do i get out of the konsole that keep showing when i try to go back on linux
[07:37] <JuJuBee_> stdin: I was a fraid that would try ti install everything all over again.
[07:38] <xp_killer> stdin: the backup file dont exist
[07:38] <arash> How do I see all modules that are avaible to disable? !module seems just to tell me how to disable certain modules, but how can I see which ones exists?
[07:38] <xp_killer> i; running cd live
[07:39] <xp_killer> stdin: if i wipe out the xorg file will it work?
[07:39] <stdin> xp_killer: there should be one, it may be called something else like xorg.conf.20070914163259 (like that, but probably not exactly)
[07:39] <Parkerw207> dr_willis , this is a live cd
[07:39] <arun> um, do i need any special php extensions installed to view auto-generated captcha images? i'm testing an application on a local lamp server
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 what video card? thats often a stumbling point for the live cd's
[07:41] <Parkerw207> dr_willis : its a HIS X800XL IceQ II Turbo 256MB PCIe
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> That the Heck is that.. :) who makes it? ATI?
[07:41] <Parkerw207> Powered by ATI Radeon X800 XL
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. its possible its trying to use the 'ati' driver. when it needs the 'vesa' driver for a better default.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> could try editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see what Driver its using.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Have had do some fighting with ati in the past sadly.
[07:42] <Parkerw207> hmm , so what can i do , i aint really interested in using the live part , i just simply want to instal it
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> the live cd installer needs X.  OR you could go get the alternative isntall cd.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> it dosent need X.
[07:43] <shaffy> can anyone help?  "sudo aptitude install build-essentials" yields "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials"
[07:43] <Parkerw207> grrr , so i am basicall buggered at the mo?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 editign that file and rerun startx, would take all of.. 2 min. :)
[07:43] <Parkerw207> how do i do that from command line?
[07:44] <pag> shaffy, isn't it " sudo aptitude install build-essential "?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis>  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> to see what driver its using.,
[07:44] <shaffy> pag:  thanks.  ^-^
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 learning how to do it.. will take more then 2 min. :) but not much more
[07:44] <Parkerw207> ok just waiting for it to work lol
[07:44] <Parkerw207> its not doing nothing
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. You may be having even more serious issues then.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> should be instantous.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> or ya did a typo
[07:45] <Parkerw207> ok
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> CASE is imporntant
[07:45] <Parkerw207> one sec
[07:45] <xp_killer> stdin: i had past my xorg file on my desktop..i mounted the ext3 to get to the descktop but its lock.how do i get there?
[07:45] <Parkerw207> oooh right
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Linux FUNDAmentals
[07:46] <xp_killer> stdin: im on cd live
[07:46] <rediz_> lkh
[07:46] <stdin> xp_killer: use sudo as normal
[07:46] <Parkerw207> is there anythign i can do before i click on install to stop this happening ?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 after ya install. it MIGHT use the right drivers. Best would be to install the actual fglrx drivers after you install.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> for legal reasons the distro cant incliude them or do it automaticially
[07:47] <Parkerw207> ahh i see
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> of course with the newer cards. they break some of the old-functions/standards also
[07:47] <Parkerw207> well i am back to the screen asking whether i want to install
[07:47] <Parkerw207> start in safe graphics mode etc
[07:47] <Parkerw207> is there anything i could do now ?
[07:47] <xp_killer> stdin: o.O i dont know how to open a folder using sudo
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Parkerw207 not sure what screen you mean. the live cd dosent ask if you want to isntall.. the isntaller icon is on the desktop
[07:48] <stdin> xp_killer: how did you mount it?