[00:24] <derekv> Aren't they doing any hiring around that stuff?
[00:26] <rick_h_> on the phone stuff? I'm not sure. We're kept pretty seperate
[00:27] <rick_h_> would just be whatever is on the online jobs listing
[00:36] <snap-l> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9058804/stomp.mp3
[00:36] <snap-l> TOok some samples from a record that i recorded for a co-worker
[01:51] <derekv> i keep finding laptop ram
[01:54] <snap-l> Wis it old laptop ram?
[01:54] <snap-l> derekv:
[01:58] <snap-l> derekv: If it's PC133 144 Pin and you don't need it, let me know, please. :)
[02:12] <derekv> I pretty much started throwing away anything that old
[02:12] <derekv> I'll let you know if I see anything
[02:12] <derekv> its all so-dimm
[02:16] <snap-l> Hmm.
[02:16] <snap-l> Yeah, if you find anything liek that, let me know. My printer takes that memory.
[11:54] <rick_h_> boooooo http://r.bmark.us/u/741a605f4eb6bd and morning
[12:42] <snap-l> rick_h_: Well that was uneventful
[12:58] <rick_h_> snap-l: ?
[13:08] <rick_h_> dammit, two spaces FML
[13:09] <snap-l> rick_h_: re: the webos tenure at HP
[13:09] <snap-l> brb
[13:09] <rick_h_> ah
[13:09] <brousch> Good blog post on Make http://bost.ocks.org/mike/make/
[13:12] <brousch> I had not been using it like that
[13:12] <rick_h_> brousch: like what? automating things?
[13:13] <brousch> I use it to automate, but as a series of commands. I haven't used starting with missing or changed files
[13:13] <rick_h_> ah, yea the missing/changed files is what makes it best
[13:14] <rick_h_> rebuild your css files only if the .sass file has changed or the .css file is missing
[13:14] <brousch> You use sass?
[13:15] <rick_h_> yea, bookie is sass. New work project is less though
[13:15] <rick_h_> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/css/readable.scss
[13:16] <brousch> It always feels like overkill when I start a project, then I get half way into it and think, "Damn, I wish I had Sass now"
[13:16] <rick_h_> heh, yea. Definitely one of those 'just use it'
[14:27] <snap-l> Hopefully the new Leopold will be arriving today.
[14:28] <snap-l> At least this time it says it's on a truck.
[14:28] <rick_h_> that's a good sign
[14:28] <snap-l> Yeah. I'm taking a risk and using the keyboard from home here at work
[14:28] <snap-l> going to use the new keyboard at home.
[14:28] <rick_h_> cool
[14:29] <snap-l> http://metal-libre.org/2013/02/metal-libre-org-origins.html
[14:29] <snap-l> Metal music compilation
[15:38]  * rick_h_ wants usb3 for the touareg. Idling in the driveway for 2hrs sucks
[15:39] <snap-l> ?
[15:40] <snap-l> Copying things to the internal drive?
[15:40] <rick_h_> yea
[15:40] <rick_h_> 9 more GB of music today
[15:40] <rick_h_> after 4GB yesterday
[15:40] <rick_h_> have to burn dvds and then copy off the dvds
[15:40] <snap-l> Ugh
[15:40] <rick_h_> so takes forever to write the dvd, then another foreven with the car running in the driveway while it copies over
[15:41] <snap-l> At least it can read DVDs
[15:41] <rick_h_> but once it's loaded can use voice to play albums vs pulling out the phone and hoping I've got a decent mobile connection
[15:41] <rick_h_> yea, it can also do sdcards and I wonder if that would be faster, but I don't have one any more. Only sdcard adapters
[15:41] <snap-l> I have an SD card adapter for micro SD
[15:42] <snap-l> and some microSD cards
[15:42] <snap-l> LMK if you want me to bring 'em to CHC
[15:42] <rick_h_> naw, I've ordered a 64GB sd card to use in the future for things
[15:42] <snap-l> I have the monster 32GB card that JoDee had in her HTC
[15:43] <snap-l> Will that show before Wed night?
[15:43] <rick_h_> yea, tomorrow hopefully
[15:43] <snap-l> kk
[15:43] <rick_h_> but once I get done with these 3 dvds I'll be done for now
[15:53] <brousch> You don't own a SD Card?
[15:53] <brousch> I have about 10 of them
[15:53] <snap-l> Too bad +1s on a comment can't be traded in for anything useful. I got +23 on a comment in an IDE thread for "just use vim"
[16:02] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/mortice/status/306055627350896640 lol
[16:04] <snap-l> How they know?
[16:19] <jrwren> snap-l: got any microSD cards you don't want or need?
[16:19] <jrwren> i only had 1 SD card for my camera. Then I got a raspberry pi and an mk802 :(
[16:21] <brousch> jrwren: How's your mk802? I have the Plus
[16:21] <jrwren> i have not used it much.
[16:21] <jrwren> android on it sucks.
[16:21] <snap-l> jrwren: Unfortunately not at the moment
[16:22] <jrwren> the wifi on it really sucks.
[16:22] <jrwren> getting linux onto it was nontrivial and I've not invested the time to revisit
[16:22] <snap-l> I do have a 16MB SD card if someone wants it. :)
[16:22] <jrwren> a little too small for linux.
[16:22] <jrwren> i have a 64MB :)
[16:22] <snap-l> Came with my camera
[16:22] <brousch> I thought the Android was OK. I was mostly using it for Netflix
[16:22] <snap-l> I think it would have been better had they just put in a slug
[16:24] <jrwren> i don't do netflix. although it would be fine for that.
[16:24] <jrwren> lack of good remote is a problem for me with mk802
[16:25] <brousch> Sucks that the droidmote thing wasn't in the kernel
[16:25] <rick_h_> everyone ready for snow tomorrow! wheeee 6+" come on
[16:25] <jrwren> and i'd need another android device for that.
[16:25] <jrwren> i don't have another android device
[16:25] <snap-l> rick_h_: Don't remind me
[16:26] <snap-l> Have a board meeting tomorrow
[16:26] <brousch> jrwren: As for Linux, this seems really easy to me https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/install-ubuntu-linux-12-04-now-including-droidmote
[16:26] <snap-l> Does it use LIRC?
[16:31] <jrwren> brousch: sweet, thanks for that.
[16:31] <jrwren> brousch: right, but I need ANOTHER android device to control it. i don' thave that.
[16:31] <brousch> Then you're doing life wrong!
[16:31] <jrwren> exactly.
[16:31] <jrwren> android sucks and I shouldn't have bought it.
[16:32] <jrwren> but I'll get linux on it, and it will be awesome.
[16:32] <dzho> linux is just a kernel
[16:32] <dzho> and android runs it
[16:32] <jrwren> bullshit.
[16:32] <jrwren> or rather: yes, I know, and android is one of the shitties linuxes I've ever used.
[16:32] <dzho> haha
[16:33] <dzho> thank you
[16:33] <jrwren> yw
[16:33] <dzho> I pretty much agree.
[16:33] <jrwren> apple's iOS has a nicer userspace than android
[16:33] <jrwren> and its not linux.
[16:34] <jrwren> i really hope ubuntu phone/tab destroy's android.
[16:34] <jrwren> its technically superior 100X :)
[16:34] <dzho> the way I'm beginning to think about it is that linux can never succeed in the consumer market because if it does, no one will call it linux.
[16:34] <dzho> on the one hand, the consumers who don't give a shit won't call it linux because they don't care.
[16:34] <rick_h_>  /me holds back from the android is not linux rant...
[16:34] <dzho> on the other hand, the people who love linux won't call it linux because it doesn't have that late 20th century BDSM feel.
[16:35] <dzho> we're finally to the point where, once again, RMS is right, though not necessarily for all the reasons he or anyone used to fight about.
[16:36] <dzho> the bit about the name is a distraction.
[16:36] <dzho> I think it's very defensible to use "linux" as a figure-of-speech for the whole magilla.
[16:36] <dzho> so, that's not what I'm talking about, in case that gets anyone's hackles up.
[16:37] <snap-l> Frankly, I couldn't care less what you call it; as long as it has a GNU toolchain and a UNIX-like OS, I'm happy.
[16:37]  * dzho nods at snap-l
[16:38] <jrwren> snap-l: which android definitely does not.
[16:38] <dzho> quite right.
[16:38] <dzho> denying it is linux though ignores the fact that android-like considerations are leaking over into the mailine kernel.
[16:39] <snap-l> jrwren: I thought it used busybox under the hood?
[16:39] <brousch> But Ubuntu tablet is running Cyanogenmod
[16:39] <dzho> snap-l: it's call toolbox, and it is deliberately not busybox, because busybox is GPL
[16:39] <snap-l> Ah
[16:39] <brousch> You can install busybox
[16:39]  * dzho sees snap-l should have gone to Mike Kasick's talk at OLF2012 ;-)
[16:39] <jrwren> snap-l: it might, but its not gnu libc. its not gnu coreutils and its not anywhere close to DFGL or any other fs layout i've seen
[16:39] <dzho> brousch: you can install lots of different busyboxen
[16:40] <snap-l> dzho: Was busy personing a booth. ;)
[16:40] <jrwren> the "
[16:40] <jrwren> the "android-like considerations" leaking into mainline kernel is usually great. I love better power management
[16:40] <dzho> jrwren: so, you're a fan of the Poettering project?
[16:43] <jrwren> never heard of it
[16:48] <dzho> I guess not strictly in-the-kernel as I thought.
[16:50] <dzho> I'm sort of conflating this http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/lennart-poettering-bsd-isnt-relevant-anymore  and http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/GNOME-developers-plan-Linux-apps-1798691.html
[16:50] <dzho> the common theme there more being GNOME and what I'm guessing are their Android inferiority complex
[17:10] <dzho> jrwren: it's funny, though, there's no mention of GNOME at all in http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/af_bus.html
[17:47] <rick_h_> snap-l: so there, now completed loading 3dvds of music
[17:47] <rick_h_> just about an hour per disk lol
[17:57] <snap-l> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/02/javas-latest-security-problems-new-flaw-identified-old-one-attacked
[17:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: Awesome.
[18:38] <greg-g> sprinting sprinting sprinting
[18:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: sprint!
[18:49] <greg-g> rick_h_: 2nd week onboard and it's an all hands in the office for ops/platform
[18:49] <greg-g> I HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN!
[18:49] <greg-g> E_TOO_MUCH_TO_LEARN
[18:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: good, you won't be bored
[18:49] <rick_h_> if you're not swimming over your head just quit :P
[18:50] <greg-g> :)
[19:00] <snap-l> heh
[20:41] <snap-l> Keyboard delivered.  :)


[01:21] <Takyoji> Damnit http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/359740/dell-drops-ubuntu-pcs-from-website-for-now
[01:22] <Takyoji> Must be just the UK though
[01:23] <Takyoji> because I dell.com/ubuntu seems unchanged since I last checked
[01:51] <kermit> "Ubuntu systems are primarily targeted towards advanced users " lol
[01:51] <kermit> if ubuntu was any easier, it'd be an iphone
[02:33] <Takyoji> What tool would be most reasonable for finding duplicate files?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> Oh, there's totally a thing for that...
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> !info fdupes
[02:41] <netbook> anyone know how i can find out if i have usb 2.0 on a linux ubuntu laptop
[02:42] <netbook> with the sli
[02:42] <netbook> cli
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> I'm not aware of anything offhand that will tell you USB version, no...
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> You can find out the chipset and google that.
[02:54] <netbook> i am doing a huge mv command, one external hdd to another
[02:54] <netbook> and the speed just plummets, i have usb2 though
[02:54] <netbook> i think I will make a bash script to do a seperate mv command for each file
[03:32] <rlaager> netbook: How could that possibly be faster?
[03:35] <rlaager> Takyoji, tonyyarusso: You might also be interested in /usr/share/fslint/fslint/findup from the fslint package. It says, "I compared this to any equivalent utils I could find (as of Nov 2000) and it's (by far) the fastest, has the most functionality (thanks to find) and has no (known) bugs. In my opinion fdupes is the next best but is slower (even though written in C), and has a bug where hard links in different directories are reported a
[03:35] <Takyoji> I also installed fslint
[03:36] <rlaager> More importantly, it has a -m option, which hardlinks the found duplicates together.
[03:38] <rlaager> Has anyone here played with btrfs subvolumes?
[09:02] <_diablo> rlaager: nope.
[19:39] <kermit> findup! nice, i spent countless hours writing something to do tha.
[19:39] <kermit> t
[19:52] <kermit> wow, lots of useful stuff in /usr/share/fslint/fslint/