[08:56] <rambo3> Jetfighter, remove cd rom and add internet repos
[08:56] <soundray> dromer: ye
[08:56] <soundray> dromer: yes
[08:56] <dromer> ok, :)
[08:56] <Jetfighter> Hug?
[08:56] <Jetfighter> Huh, rambo3 ?
[08:56] <soundray> !goodbotuse > dromer
[08:56] <morrolan> Error installing libsdl1.2-dev - I get a message saying: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[08:56] <soundray> ;)
[08:57] <Get_A_Fix> many thanks guys
[08:57] <rambo3> !synaptic > Jetfighter
[08:57] <Jetfighter> I know about Package Manager
[08:58] <Aspire> I get a nvidia kernel error, I crashed my gnome. rebooted and got the evil blue screen of x server to work. any quick fix?
[08:58] <soundray> Jetfighter: find the repositories menu in synaptic and disable the CD as package source
[08:58] <nicko1> Hi, i have a router on my desktop running ubuntu, used for my laptop wireless, however i noticed that if i start ubuntu 6.10 with the router off and then turn it on when ubuntu is already running..the router is not 'detected' so it wont work until i reboot (not logout!) ..can anyboy help??
[08:58] <TomaszD> xelados, or just install and run xawtv
[08:59] <soundray> Aspire: can you log in on the console?
[08:59] <PirateHead> necko1: there ought to be a way to restart something, but I don't know what that thing would be. =D
[08:59] <xelados> How do I remount my webcam? or access it?
[08:59] <xelados> Its light is off now
[08:59] <xelados> and I have xawtv installed
[08:59] <PirateHead> xelados: did you try unplugging and replugging?
[08:59] <Aspire> soundray: ya I'm gonna try and use the backup right now
[08:59] <xelados> PirateHead: not yet. I'll give it a shot.
[09:00] <PirateHead> xelados: not the best solution, but it gives you somewhere to start.
[09:00] <soundray> nicko1: probably just 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' on ubuntu
[09:00] <xelados> PirateHead: alright, light's back on
[09:00] <PirateHead> xelados: that's good to hear. It means things aren't failing too badly.
[09:00] <cyphase> Ferret, chris72: do either of you know how to do what i said before, but skip the *files* (not child directories) in a certain directory?
[09:00] <soundray> Aspire: make sure you've got the latest linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules packages
[09:00] <kingking> is ubuntu better than windows?
[09:00] <TomaszD> nicko1, this problem will disappear in Ubuntu 7.04 as the network connection will be automatically picked up, for now just don't turn the router off
[09:00] <cyphase> kingking: yes
[09:00] <kingking> why?
[09:01] <nicko1> TomaszD: ok thanks
[09:01] <soundray> kingking: see cyphase ^^, but nobody knows for sure
[09:01] <xelados> Whenever I run xawtv, I get this output and my webcam's light goes off.
[09:01] <ctech21> hi
[09:01] <Jetfighter> kingking, a pile of dog poop is better than Windows...
[09:01] <ctech21> hi
[09:01] <xelados> !pastebin
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:01] <Aspire> soundray: the system for nvidia was working great till I switched users and didnt switch.
[09:01] <xelados> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10386/
[09:01] <kingking> is it
[09:01] <slacker_nl> kingking: yes ubuntu kicks Windows ass
[09:01] <pdxmitch> I downloaded the Ubuntu Desktop ISO and told my BIOS to boot from CD, but it still boots from the HD.  If I tell my BIOS to boot from a floppy, it will boot from the floppy.  Not sure what to do.
[09:01] <soundray> Aspire: can you rephrase that please
[09:01] <PirateHead> kingking: it is for many applications, but windows is better than Ubuntu for others.
[09:02] <xelados> I assume /dev/video0 is my webcam
[09:02] <PirateHead> kingking: we can give you more information if you
[09:02] <nicko1> i have 2 more questions.. what is the best dock (like osx) for ubuntu without installing beryl,xlg, or other since i have low graphix? thanks
[09:02] <kingking> in what ways it outscores windows
[09:02] <PirateHead> kingking: we can give you more information if you're interested in a certian aspect, such as networking, comptuer development, gaming, etc.
[09:02] <kingking> ok why not
[09:02] <TomaszD> xelados, weird but your root partition might be 100% full
[09:02] <slacker_nl> kingking: its free, you can tweak it better, more choices between windowmanagers
[09:02] <xelados> lmao
[09:02] <TheVault> Question. When i enter the su command, and I input my password as I do with sudo, says authentication failed. Do I make to make a new password or something for the su command?
[09:02] <dromer> nicko1: "dock" ?
[09:02] <jazzman> Anyone getting a "NMI received. Dazed and confused" error while running 3D application (like open GL screensaver or Beryl)?
[09:02] <dromer> nicko1: do you mean window manager?
[09:03] <xethx> how do i uninstall a program that i installed using wine?
[09:03] <xelados> TomaszD: my hard drive is 250 gB and I'm only using 6.8 of it
[09:03] <PirateHead> kingking: It is more memory-efficient than windows, it uses a better file system so you never have to defragment, it is mostly immune to viruses (read: there has never been a Linux virus in the wild), and igt is very easy ot maintain with frequent updates and security fixes.
[09:03] <ubuntu> hello all
[09:03] <soundray> TheVault: please don't use su, ubuntu is designed to be used with sudo
[09:03] <TheVault> soundray: Alrighty I won't mess with it then
[09:03] <slacker_nl> kingking: free office applications, the livecd, based on debian, vista like behaviour with beryl, but without having to purchase a expensive pc
[09:03] <TomaszD> xelados, so it's a bug probably. Search google with the name of your webcam and add linux to the query, should be helpful
[09:03] <Aspire> soundray: I installed the nvidia drivers just fine, I was loging off from one user to another, screen went black, so I hit the ctrl-alt-backspace, notthing happened, rebooted got the blue screen. I just now tried a backup file and still. it's not working
[09:03] <xelados> TomaszD: Will do.
[09:03] <pdxmitch> I downloaded the Ubuntu Desktop ISO, burned it to a CD, and told my BIOS to boot from CD, but it still boots from the HD.  If I tell my BIOS to boot from a floppy, it will boot from the floppy.  Not sure what to do.
[09:03] <PirateHead> kingking: the primary reasons to choose Windows over Ubuntu are: DVD playback, 3D gaming, and iTunes.
[09:03] <slacker_nl> kingking: and you can do everything you want with ubuntu just like you can with windows..
[09:04] <biscuitdunker> hello :-)
[09:04] <soundray> TheVault: to use su, you would have to unlock the root account, which opens a security hole.
[09:04] <slacker_nl> PirateHead: DVD playback is fine under Ubuntu
[09:04] <soundray> TheVault: have you tried sudo -i ?
[09:04] <dromer> PirateHead: what's wrong with linux-dvd-playback?
[09:04] <rambo3> !md5 |pdxmitch
[09:04] <ubotu> pdxmitch: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:04] <PirateHead> slacker_nl: Not under my Ubuntu. Encrypted DVDs won't play.
[09:04] <soundray> slacker_nl: I'm back on the subject here as you can see ;)
[09:04] <database> How would you reverse the screens in an X server? So a screen outputs to one monitor instead of the other, and vice versa.
[09:04] <pdxmitch> rambo3: I can play the CD in Windows, so I think it's ok.
[09:04] <roop> When I try to run something with wine and the terminal just says "exename: shock2.exe"  twice what do I do?
[09:04] <TheVault> lemme try sudo -i
[09:04] <genii> .msg ubotu hello
[09:04] <genii> bah
[09:04] <sethk> roop, cry?
[09:05] <slacker_nl> PirateHead: I have no problems (at least i don't know if I have encrypted DVD's)
[09:05] <database> I need my primary screen to output to my secondary monitor, to be odd.
[09:05] <slacker_nl> soundray: lol
[09:05] <kingking> oh i c
[09:05] <Ferret> cyphase: personally I'd just temporarily move that directory out of the way to do that
[09:05] <sethk> roop, obviously your wine setup isn't quite right yet
[09:05] <TheVault> YAY it works
[09:05] <slacker_nl> soundray: /me is keeping his mouth shut ;0
[09:05] <slacker_nl> ;)
[09:05] <biscuitdunker> slow down i cant read this :(
[09:05] <TheVault> soundray: Thanks
[09:05] <PirateHead> kingking: is that useful information? Are you interested in anything more specific?
[09:05] <pdxmitch> But all it does if I play it in Windows is let me run Firefox, etc.
[09:05] <nicko1> dromer: no, the launch bar usually at the bottom of the desktop
[09:05] <Ferret> cyphase: You can do something like find /path/to/dir ! -name 'ExcludeMePlease -exec ....
[09:05] <kingking> how abt stability
[09:05] <dromer> nicko1: oh ok
[09:05] <cyphase> Ferret: for one.. but i need to do it a lot. it needs to be automatic
[09:05] <Linux_Junkie> kingking: just try it out, nothing beats first ahnd experience.
[09:06] <Ferret> cyphase: Uh, I mean -name 'ExcludeMe'
[09:06] <Get_A_Fix> soundray: thanks, that's exactly what I needed, cheers.
[09:06] <slacker_nl> kingking: ubuntu is more stable then windows, but why not give it a try?
[09:06] <jazzman> fglrx causing nmi error dazed and confused anyone?
[09:06] <cyphase> hmm
[09:06] <TomaszD> kingking, you can run it off the cd as a live session, no need to install it if you don't want to
[09:06] <PirateHead> kingking: it is easy to find unstable packages in Linux because there is lots of experimental software available. However, if you stick to a well-known distribution (like Ubuntu) and don't install wierd and crazy things, you will find that Linux is very stable.
[09:06] <dromer> database: I think you need to name the screens and reverse the leftof to rightof or vice-versa, but I'm not sure
[09:06] <biscuitdunker> can anyone help this new user to ubuntu;; i have porblems
[09:06] <soundray> Get_A_Fix: hope you can get it going
[09:06] <kronoman> hi
[09:06] <morrolan> How can I force-install an older package that 1 already installed?  Is it possible to copy and rename a package?
[09:06] <Linux_Junkie> heh actually most widely used svn's are pretty stable.
[09:07] <xelados> TomaszD: Hmm, Google didn't help me at all. It's an HP PP136AA#ABA.
[09:07] <kronoman> I just formatted my hard disk, and the partition program reports 1 gb used
[09:07] <kronoman> what is wrong/
[09:07] <melania> anyone know how to mount a drive on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:07] <kingking> wonderful
[09:07] <kronoman> as ext3
[09:07] <nicko1> anyone use any docks (launcherbar) without the use of beyl,xgl,etc..??
[09:07] <sethk> melania, what kind of drive?  what file system?
[09:07] <Linux_Junkie> melania; mount -t <fs type> source destination.
[09:07] <melania> ext3
[09:07] <PirateHead> kingking: I have been using Ubuntu for a couple years and my laptop has never crashed; before, this same laptop had Windows on it and it had crashed a couple times. That's just my experience, but it has been echoed by many others.
[09:07] <rambo3> pdxmitch, well you need to close burning session to get it to boot . does it boot other CD -s
[09:07] <TomaszD> xelados, try without the weird hash signs and numbers at the very end
[09:07] <soundray> biscuitdunker: describe your problems, one at a time, give some detail
[09:07] <slacker_nl> melania: man mount (mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt for example)
[09:07] <Get_A_Fix> soundray: I'll let you know.
[09:08] <melania> ok i;ll try that
[09:08] <Linux_Junkie> melania: mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/*  /mnt/tmp
[09:08] <TheVault> soundray: So when I do the sudo -i command, I don't have to constantly do the sudo for each command that I wanna give?
[09:08] <TomaszD> kronoman, are you using a laptop computer? some have hidden partitions with recovery software
[09:08] <soundray> TheVault: exactly
[09:08] <slacker_nl> TheVault: no, you then have a rootshell
[09:08] <sethk> TheVault, right
[09:08] <biscuitdunker> i just installed buntu and i cant raise my resolution higher than 800x600?? do i need to install ATI drivers myself??
[09:08] <slacker_nl> (soundray, looky me ;))
[09:08] <sethk> TheVault, so you can pretend you don't have su, and still have it.
[09:08] <Linux_Junkie> melina the * was meant so you put your device in there.
[09:09] <kronoman> TomaszD: no, is a IDE disk
[09:09] <sethk> biscuitdunker, possibly.  possibly it's misidentified your monitor and thinks it can't do more than 8x6.  there are several possibilities
[09:09] <TheVault> so when I do the sudo -i, instead of the sudo rm pathtofile name, I simple would do rm pathtofile
[09:09] <slacker_nl> yes
[09:09] <rambo3> biscuitdunker, it should for with ati driver you have now asj ubotu : fixres
[09:09] <___drunken> hi everyone. I have a little problem with feisty. Usplash doesn't show up most of the time. The text-boot messages stop with a message like "pci quirk....". then nothing happens and after some time, the gdm greeter appers. anyone who can help me to track down this problem?"
[09:09] <PirateHead> @all: is there a difference between running sudo -i and sudo su?
[09:09] <TomaszD> kronoman, what do you mean? both IDE and SATA drives are used in laptops. Maybe you mean an external drive?
[09:09] <TheVault> PirateHead: Yeah, I would guess so
[09:09] <LjL> PirateHead: yes, "sudo -i" is, if anything, equivalent to "sudo su -", not "sudo su"
[09:10] <PirateHead> !feisty | ___drunken
[09:10] <soundray> biscuitdunker: before you go for the binary ATI driver, try ubotu's advice (you'll get a pm)
[09:10] <ubotu> ___drunken: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:10] <soundray> !fixres > biscuitdunker
[09:10] <biscuitdunker> th ank you
[09:10] <melania> argh it says only root can do that
[09:10] <biscuitdunker> :-)
[09:10] <LjL> PirateHead: also, it doesn't make much sense to chain *two* commands that, basically, do the same thing (i.e. switch user)... just use "sudo -i", since that's what it's made for
[09:10] <melania> i am using root though
[09:10] <melania> err sudo
[09:10] <TheVault> Thanks guys for explaining the difference
[09:10] <sethk> melania, paste the exact command you used
[09:10] <PirateHead> LJL: I have been using simply "sudo su" for quite awhile. Is there any problem with that approach?
[09:10] <jim> Hi, just got a IDE to USB adaptor.  I can see the hard disk connected to this in XP. However I can't find it anywhere in Linux. I am running Xubuntu. Thanks in advance!
[09:10] <kronoman> TomaszD: a IDE disk that I just got today, OEM, for my desktop PC
[09:11] <melania> sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp
[09:11] <naxxramas> What IRC clients are you guys using?
[09:11] <___drunken> piratehead is there a different irc channel for feisty?
[09:11] <soundray> PirateHead: there could be. Compare 'echo ~' under sudo -i versus sudo su
[09:11] <jim> Xchat
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> melania: that should work.
[09:11] <CheshireViking> !fiesty
[09:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:11] <PirateHead> ___drunken: #ubuntu+1 ought to work
[09:11] <slacker_nl> Linux_Junkie: no it should not
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> err wait no sudo doesn't apply to the second half
[09:11] <___drunken> piratehead thx
[09:11] <melania> yeah it's just saying "mount: only root can do that"
[09:11] <PirateHead> ___drunken: no problem.
[09:11] <slacker_nl> medfly: you have to supply sudo to the mount as well
[09:11] <LjL> PirateHead: well, there is the same problem you can have with "sudo -s" (as opposed to "sudo -i"): the environment (shell variables, current dir etc) don't get updated to the root ones, but remain your own.
[09:11] <Linux_Junkie> melania; Just sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp
[09:11] <slacker_nl> melania: see ^^^
[09:11] <PirateHead> melania: type "sudo" before your mount command
[09:11] <medfly> slacker_nl, ?
[09:11] <bratsche> Hi.  Is there a good resource that describes how to make an updated DEB file?  I want to take an existing one from Universe and use a newer version of the original source, but I'm not sure where to begin with that.
[09:11] <melania> ok
[09:12] <TomaszD> kronoman, oh then I don't know. does it really report used space or maybe you're misguided by the fact that manufacturers misrepresent the actual capacity of their drives?
[09:12] <slacker_nl> medfly: me<tab> error :)
[09:12] <medfly> oh, okay :-)
[09:12] <medfly> better leave.
[09:12] <kronoman> TomaszD: I'm checking it for badblocks, that may be the cause
[09:12] <TomaszD> kronoman, could be
[09:12] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package" (nVidia Driver Install)
[09:12] <PirateHead> LJL: Usually, I want that behaviour. I dont' want my environment variables or current directory to change on me.
[09:12] <PirateHead> LJL: it's nice to know the difference, though.
[09:12] <Jetfighter> Where is /usr/local/etc ?
[09:13] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: ...      ...    it's at /usr/local/etc
[09:13] <melania> ok it worked but is there a way i can access it and see all the files on it?
[09:13] <PriceChild> !away > Prognatus
[09:13] <Jetfighter> Where is that!
[09:13] <UpperNinety89> I'm having a big problem with my Ubuntu
[09:13] <slacker_nl> Jetfighter: cd /usr...
[09:13] <LjL> PirateHead: well that's your choice of course, but generally speaking it's obviously less secure. though it's unlikely to make too much of a difference on a normal desktop system.
[09:13] <ikonia> Jetfighter: don't start this again
[09:13] <UpperNinety89> I can't get to the login GUI
[09:13] <ikonia> Jetfighter: its in /usr/local
[09:13] <soundray> bratsche: first, check if there's an updated package in feisty. If there is, you can 'apt-get source' it and do your very own backport.
[09:13] <Jetfighter> I need it in the folders, not a Terminal
[09:13] <ikonia> its still in /usr/local
[09:13] <bratsche> soundray: There is not.  I already checked.
[09:13] <ikonia> as well you know
[09:14] <database> How would one kill the X Server?
[09:14] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package" (nVidia Driver Install)
[09:14] <Prognatus> PriceChild, yopu called? :)
[09:14] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both?
[09:14] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: hit alt + F2, then type: nautilus /usr/local/etc
[09:14] <PriceChild> Prognatus, pm from ubotu ;)
[09:14] <sethk> N3WB, this is really difficult ... you have to install your distribution's libc development package
[09:14] <UpperNinety89> Can someone help me? lol
[09:14] <Jetfighter> In what?
[09:14] <melania> linuxjunkie: is there a way i can look at all the files on it now?
[09:14] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: things in the folders are at the same places as they are in the terminal. Nothing moves.
[09:14] <Prognatus> PriceChild, Ok. Thanks.
[09:14] <LjL> Jetfighter: just type it
[09:14] <slacker_nl> database: cat /etc/X11/default-something manager and then from there, /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm or xdm) stop
[09:14] <PirateHead> !help | UpperNinety89
[09:14] <ubotu> UpperNinety89: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:14] <ernz> Hi people. Stupid question with genuine reason for asking: How can I lock the positioning of the desktop shortcuts in Ubuntu - Is there an option in gconf-editor or something?
[09:14] <soundray> bratsche: in that case, the best way is probably to apt-get the source anyway, unpack the updated source in the same directory and hope that the patch applies to the update.
[09:15] <PirateHead> !ask | UpperNinety89
[09:15] <ubotu> UpperNinety89: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:15] <PirateHead> That's the one I was looking for.
[09:15] <biscuitdunker> that didnt work :(
[09:15] <biscuitdunker> can i get that link from ubotu again?
[09:15] <bratsche> soundray: So do what.. "apt get source <packagename>" ?  And that will go in my pwd?
[09:15] <UpperNinety89> My OS crashes after the initial loading screen and just stops. I can't get to the Login GUI. Any help?
[09:15] <soundray> bratsche: yes, and yes
[09:15] <bratsche> Err.. I meant apt-get source
[09:15] <bratsche> soundray: Thanks!
[09:15] <Jetfighter> Couldn't find it >.<
[09:16] <jim> Anybody know where I can find my external usb hard drive in Xubunto?
[09:16] <soundray> !fixres > biscuitdunker
[09:16] <soundray> biscuitdunker: and the next step is probably:
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: hit `mount` in a terminal
[09:16] <soundray> !ati > biscuitdunker
[09:16] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: What do you mean by stops? Does it come to a terminal? Totally blank? What version of ubuntu are you using? What is the last thing you see before it crashes? Has Ubuntu been working until lately?
[09:16] <ikonia> Jetfighter: every question you ask suggests your trolling. /usr/local/etc - is in the folders "/usr" then "/local/" then "/etc"
[09:16] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:16] <bratsche> soundray: Once I have the source, how do I actually build the deb?
[09:16] <melania> anyone know how i can view files of a drive that i just mounted on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:16] <sethk> jim, run the dmesg command, look at the last few lines (ignore the first few thousand)
[09:16] <noobubtu> jim: mount it
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: will probably reside somewhere in /media/
[09:16] <biscuitdunker> thank you so much for your hjelp sound i appreicate it been so long since i used linux :-)
[09:16] <slacker_nl> jim: if auto mounted
[09:17] <soundray> bratsche: change into the directory with the patched source and run 'debian/rules binary'
[09:17] <Jetfighter> Couldn't find it >.<
[09:17] <cyphase> Ferret: i did it with regular expessions.. ! -regex "regExp"
[09:18] <LjL> Jetfighter: do you have KDE installed?
[09:18] <cyphase> expressions*
[09:18] <ikonia> Jetfighter: then it doesn't exist
[09:18] <soundray> bratsche: you may first have to do a 'sudo apt-get build-dep packagename'
[09:18] <Dubstar_04> anyone direct me to tv card advice?
[09:18] <Jetfighter> KDE?
[09:18] <database> Didn't work; how do you drop back to a runlevel terminal, WITHOUT X RUNNING?
[09:18] <UpperNinety89> PirateHead: it just stops. It doesn't go to a terminal or anything. Its just blank. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy. The last thing I see before it crashes is a loading bar about 85% full and screen tearing.
[09:18] <PirateHead> Jetfighter: you're using Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, right?
[09:18] <jim> I didtry 'mount'no sign of it!  Tried Knoppix, it displays it as an icon on the desktop....I'll try other suggestions thank you very much guys and gala.
[09:18] <soundray> bratsche: I take it you have installed build-essential already
[09:18] <Jetfighter> Yes
[09:18] <Craeo> It seems that Ubuntu has made itself my default OS to boot into how would I go about changing my default OS to Windows XP partition?
[09:18] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:18] <Stalwart> does anyone know when feisty shipit preorder will open?
[09:18] <melania> anyone know how i can view files of a drive that i just mounted on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:18] <SGorillaaaa> how can i enter a space in the terminal (for instance /home/USER/GIANT PENGUINS/) without it treating it as a space?
[09:18] <bratsche> soundray: Yeah.  I just have never messed with deb package system stuff before, so I wasn't sure where to begin with this.
[09:18] <PirateHead> UpperNinety98: it's having trouble switching between uSplash and x. Try reconfiguring xorg.
[09:18] <slacker_nl> melania: you mounted it succesfully?
[09:18] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: either quote "" it or escape it  \
[09:18] <melania> yeah
[09:18] <LjL> PirateHead: i was asking because, with KDE installed, there's the "hidden directories" features that gets enabled. but really, Jetfighter, /usr/local/etc is just unlikely to exist. it doesn't exist on my system for one.
[09:18] <UpperNinety89> I tried that, I have no idea how to do that
[09:18] <database> SGorillaaaa: Surround the whole path with quotes, which is the second option ikonia said.
[09:18] <melania> at least i'm pretty sure i did :)
[09:19] <reaspired> soundray, I got my nvidia working again, now question is which user does apache. I'm needing to give writable access to a folder
[09:19] <slacker_nl> melania: you should then open nautilus or konquerer and be able to got the /mnt directory
[09:19] <OuZo> hi, i can view the pictures in of a .doc file in office word but not in open office, is this a setting i need to change? thanks
[09:19] <soundray> Craeo: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and point the 'default 0' option to your Windows title number (counting starts at 0) instead of 0
[09:19] <UpperNinety89> Until I don't know, sunday, I didn't even have Ubuntu installed
[09:19] <PirateHead> LJL: doesn't exist on my computer either, but the fact that he's looking for it must mean that there's something there.
[09:19] <slacker_nl> melania: you should see it then
[09:19] <soundray> reaspired: please ask the channel, I don't do apache ;)
[09:19] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Does the Ubuntu LiveCD boot?
[09:19] <LjL> PirateHead, Jetfighter: then i suggest just typing "ls /usr/local/etc" in a terminal and making sure it does exist, first of all.
[09:19] <melania> nope, doesn't show up :(
[09:19] <slacker_nl> reaspired: www-data
[09:19] <Craeo> soundray: Thanks alot, I will give it a shot right now
[09:20] <ernz> The reason I need to lock desktop icons is because I set up an old 1.4 athlon box running Ubuntu and loads of kids apps, but he's still learning to use the mouse properly and the desktop icons are ending up all over the place. Any suggestions, anybody?
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: what does `mount` say?
[09:20] <melania> the command i used was "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/tmp"
[09:20] <UpperNinety89> It did earlier yesterday, but that was when the whole thing was working. I haven't tried it since.
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: you should be able to acces it on /mnt/tmp
[09:20] <N3WB> Help anyone "No precomplied kernel interface was found to match our kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site ...?
[09:20] <N3WB> I dont got internet, what to do :|
[09:20] <slacker_nl> melania: ls /mnt/tmp
[09:20] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Try booting from the Ubuntu LiveCD right now. If that doens't work, it might be a different sort of problem.
[09:20] <sethk> N3WB, that's normal, just say yes and let it time out, or say no
[09:20] <UpperNinety89> ok I'll try
[09:21] <UpperNinety89> one second, its on a virtual machine, not sure if I mentioned that
[09:21] <melania> oh ok now i see
[09:21] <Pollywog> I wonder if Melania has recently upgraded
[09:21] <soundray> Craeo: check this out: 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0'
[09:21] <N3WB> "ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system. Please install your distributions libc deelopment package"
[09:21] <shekhar> hello can someone help me configure my xorg.conf for my new widescreen monitor to use native resolution
[09:21] <N3WB> How to fix this then?
[09:21] <melania> is there a way i can visually look at the files though?
[09:21] <morrolan> Is it possible to replace a newer package with an older one, or install both? I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but version libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is installed?
[09:21] <melania> instead of just in the terminal
[09:21] <rambo3> N3WB, search synaptic
[09:21] <slacker_nl> melania: with konquerer or nautilus
[09:21] <Pollywog> when I upgraded to Edgy things got messed up, like my fstab
[09:21] <LjL> morrolan: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionname, if the version is actually available
[09:21] <soundray> shekhar: ubotu has some info, please read the private message:
[09:21] <soundray> !fixres > shekhar
[09:21] <slacker_nl> melania: just point them to /mtn/tmp
[09:22] <rambo3> N3WB, search synaptic libc dev
[09:22] <LjL> morrolan: in your case that would probably be  sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa=6.5.1-20060817
[09:22] <Pollywog> btw why did Linux (or Ubuntu) change the device names?
[09:22] <PirateHead> Pollywog: I always need to re-write my fstab and /boot/grub/menu.list when Ubuntu upgrades. Make sure you always back those up between upgrades.
[09:22] <ikonia> change in device names ?
[09:22] <melania> is nautilus the file browser of ubuntu?
[09:22] <Craeo> soundray: What does that command do?
[09:22] <LjL> melania: yes
[09:22] <slacker_nl> melania: no, of gnome
[09:22] <soundray> !uuid | Pollywog, do you mean this one?
[09:22] <ubotu> Pollywog, do you mean this one?: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:22] <Pollywog> yes the device names were made into some sort of UUID's
[09:23] <soundray> Craeo: counts your title entries for you
[09:23] <UpperNinety89> Pirate: The disc is loaded and its giving me the boot options (Start or install... start in safe gfx mode etc...) should I just start it from the disc
[09:23] <LjL> Pollywog: the old device names are still quite there.
[09:23] <chalcedony> wb
[09:23] <ikonia> Pollywog: thats a potential branch of the libata kernel, that ubuntu has chosen to bring to production status
[09:23] <Pollywog> my machine would not boot
[09:23] <rambo3> !info libc6-dev edgy | N3WB
[09:23] <Pollywog> oic
[09:23] <ubotu> n3wb: libc6-dev: GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 1808 kB, installed size 7872 kB
[09:23] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Choose the Start / Install Ubuntu option.
[09:23] <qaldune> what devices did linux changed?
[09:23] <UpperNinety89> ok
[09:23] <database> How would one kill the X server, please?
[09:23] <ikonia> qaldun - none
[09:23] <SGorillaaaa> what does the command cd do?
[09:23] <LjL> database: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:23] <willskills> guys, I am running ventrilo & WoW with aoss: I can talk/hear in vent, but I get no sound in WoW - any ideas?
[09:24] <Pollywog> I was referring to the UUID's
[09:24] <bratsche> SGorillaaaa: change directory
[09:24] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: change current working directory. type "man cd"
[09:24] <database> LjL: That's to restart it?
[09:24] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: "change" "directory" cd
[09:24] <willskills> guys, I am running ventrilo & WoW with aoss: I can talk/hear in vent, but I get no sound in WoW - any ideas? - if I dont run vent, I get sound in WoW
[09:24] <slacker_nl> database: ps -ef | egrep "gdm|kdm|xdm" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo kill
[09:24] <LjL> database: it kills it, then GDM sees it was killed and automatically restarts it.
[09:24] <Pollywog> I had to repair my fstab after upgrades or the machine would not boot
[09:24] <LjL> database: if you want to stop GDM, type  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:24] <soundray> SGorillaaaa: it plays the CD in your drive
[09:24] <soundray> SGorillaaaa: (just kiddin')
[09:24] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: sorry, that's "help cd"
[09:25] <Pollywog> I had to remove the UUID's in other words
[09:25] <N3WB> So i should just download it and install it i guess?
[09:25] <PirateHead> willskills: sometimes programs have trouble sharing access to your sound card. I don't know how to fix it if that's the case.
[09:25] <slacker_nl> general question, why did they change it to the UUID's anyways?
[09:25] <ernz> Does anyone know which files are configured when the desktop icons are moved?
[09:25] <slacker_nl> its not so human readable anymore..
[09:26] <Pollywog> slacker_nl: yeah it is confusing
[09:26] <LjL> !uuid | slacker_nl
[09:26] <ubotu> slacker_nl: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:26] <AMD-> dose any one know how to get xmms player to work with lirc and a remote , i have placed a configured "lirc" file in  /home/user/.xmms. it still wont work bnut mythtv works
[09:26] <Pollywog> and I had trouble only with one machine not another
[09:26] <ikonia> slacker_nl: possibly because of the 2.8 kernel future proof that the libata guys are trying to address which is dynamic major minor number creation
[09:26] <rambo3> PirateHead, .asoumdrc file should fix that
[09:26] <melania> is there a terminal command to copy stuff from one folder to another?
[09:26] <UpperNinety89> PirateHead: I'm using the CD and it loaded the GUI
[09:26] <kingking> sounds good... i should try UBUNTU then
[09:26] <N3WB> Would it be smart to install "linux-kernel-headers (2.6.18-7)" too?
[09:26] <LjL> melania: "man cp"
[09:26] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: How much do you have to lose by doing a fresh install?
[09:26] <soundray> AMD-: lirc is finicky. What kind of receiver do you have?
[09:27] <LjL> !cli > melania    (melania, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:27] <melania> k thanks a lot
[09:27] <UpperNinety89> Meh, basically nothing really
[09:27] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: in other words, which will be more time-efficient: starting from scratch, or fixing what you've already got?
[09:27] <Pollywog> well it seems to me the kernel guys put the cart before the horse but I guess there was a good reason
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> im trying to do this command but it wont work, any ideas?
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> cd /home/USER/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine steam.exe
[09:27] <ikonia> Pollywog: what ?
[09:27] <PirateHead> rambo3: can you help willskills set that up?
[09:27] <SGorillaaaa> it sais "no such file or directory
[09:27] <Craeo> soundray: I just looked at my menu.lst and it's already set to the default "0" which is what my XP number is "hda 0,0"
[09:28] <UpperNinety89> My question is how do I prevent the same thing from happening again even if I do a fresh install
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: USER is unlikely to be a real directory. it means your *own user's* directory, most likely
[09:28] <slacker_nl> ikonia: come again? in plain english ;)
[09:28] <Pollywog> ikonia: with this UUID situation
[09:28] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: that file doesn't exist probably because you have no /home/USER dir
[09:28] <SGorillaaaa> i know i changed that
[09:28] <PirateHead> kingking: I do suggest giving Ubuntu a try. It's a really nice OS!
[09:28] <ikonia> Pollywog: how is that putting the cart before the horse
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: just type  cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[09:28] <SGorillaaaa> i used my username
[09:28] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: Don't mess with your xorg configuration? =P
[09:28] <Craeo> soundray: "hd0,0" is my XP number sorry
[09:28] <ikonia> SGorillaaaa: ok - then the file doesn't exist
[09:28] <kingking> ok i will need to download ubuntu then
[09:28] <LjL> SGorillaaaa: ~ is a shortcut for your home directory. and the space in "Program Files" needs to be escaped. (or just type Prog and then TAB... you know about TAB, right? =)
[09:29] <UpperNinety89> lol Given, but I never messed with it myself
[09:29] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: If you can reproduce the problem, it would actually be a really good thing: you could submit a bug to the right tracker and make sure it never happens to anybody else.
[09:29] <morrolan> how do I extract a .run.gz file?
[09:29] <_Krull_> kingking yes
[09:29] <UpperNinety89> True
[09:29] <abo> is there a gui program to convert wav files to mp3?
[09:29] <LjL> morrolan: gunzip filename.run.gz
[09:29] <soundray> Craeo: you haven't listened carefully and haven't understood the terminal command I sent you
[09:29] <ikonia> morrolan: unzip it and chmod it then run it
[09:29] <emet> where can I get like a two page bash/linux cmd line reference?
[09:29] <soundray> !lame > abo, please read ubotu's pm
[09:29] <rambo3> willskills do you have both on alsa and did you configure asoundrc file
[09:29] <morrolan> yeah, i know that.  How do I unzip it, tar keep refusing?
[09:29] <ikonia> morrolan: its gzipped
[09:29] <SGorillaaaa> tankyou ikonia, ljl
[09:29] <ikonia> so "ungizip" it
[09:30] <ikonia> gunzip for example
[09:30] <soundray> Craeo: the 'default' option takes the number of the title entry you want to boot by default.
[09:30] <jackrazz> hey everyone...does tar have error detection (CRCs) or do I need to combine tar with gzip?
[09:30] <morrolan> yeah, thanks for the sarcastic help.
[09:30] <LjL> morrolan: ....
[09:30] <PirateHead> UpperNinety89: good luck, see you later.
[09:30] <ikonia> jackrazz: how does combining tar with gzip = error correction ?
[09:30] <soundray> Craeo: 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0 | grep -i windows' should show you what number that is
[09:30] <Pollywog> ikonia: if you go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks it seems as though we are testing this thing before it is ready
[09:30] <Jetfighter> Ok, I jsut CDed from desktop to /usr/local/var/run/dancer-ircd
[09:30] <Jetfighter>  but I can-t find it
[09:30] <ernz> OK, can someone point me in the right direction? I need to see which file is being edited as I move desktop icons. I guess it is just a conf file or something. But I wan't to lock this so desktop cannot be altered.
[09:31] <ernz> Thanks in advance
[09:31] <ikonia> Pollywog: well it is in the libata branch and it may change - but thats ubuntu's choice to make it stable - not the linux kernel team
[09:31] <Pollywog> I would expect that in Feisty but not in Edgy
[09:31] <Pollywog> ah ic
[09:31] <ikonia> Pollywog: whats the difference in fesity or edgy - both are not LTS and even when fesity is released that libata branch still won't be main stream so why not in edgy
[09:31] <Craeo> soundray: Aah I see
[09:32] <Craeo> soundray: Let me give it a shot
[09:32] <Ferret> jackrazz: tar has basic error detection, iirc it literally is crc
[09:32] <emet> !bash
[09:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:32] <soundray> Craeo: no, I won't let you
[09:32] <AMD-> soundray: mce usb
[09:32] <soundray> Craeo: dang, seems I can't stop you
[09:32] <soundray> ;)
[09:32] <reaspired> Anyone know a good edgy repository for WINE. that works good with winetools
[09:32] <ikonia> Jetfighter: you can't find what ?
[09:32] <ikonia> reaspired: the ubuntu repo's are all thats supported
[09:33] <soundray> AMD-: is it supposed to work with lirc?
[09:33] <nyinge> /server irc://thelinuxlink.net/techshow
[09:33] <Craeo> soundray: Yeah it was too let, but it did tell me what number my XP listing was
[09:33] <nyinge> *mt
[09:33] <abo> soundray is there a gui frontend to lame?
[09:33] <AMD-> soundray:yes it works with mythtv
[09:33] <rage|work> What package do I need to install to get access to mysqlrepair?
[09:33] <Pollywog> ikonia: in other words I should have stuck with Dapper for now?
[09:33] <soundray> abo: I'm not sure. There are plenty of ripping frontends that use lame amongst other tools.
[09:34] <ikonia> Pollywog: if you don't believe in the block id method - yes
[09:34] <LjL> reaspired the most recent WINE releases can be found at the winehq repository. i have no idea about winetools, wasn't that deprecated even?
[09:34] <badagentx> Can some one help me I can't get ubuntu to boot it was working the other day though
[09:34] <soundray> abo: if I were you, I'd try audacity
[09:34] <LjL> !wine > reaspired    (reaspired, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:34] <Pollywog> ikonia: it's not that I don't believe in it as much as I think it is not ready since it would not work correctly for me in one case
[09:34] <slacker_nl> rage|work: mysqlrepair?
[09:35] <Pollywog> but you might be right, should have stuck with Dapper for now
[09:35] <ikonia> Pollywog: its not in the kernel mainstream yet - so log a bug / request for ubuntu - in say 7 months time the blkid method may not even exist
[09:35] <soundray> Pollywog: please report a bug if you experience unexpected behaviour due to the UUID changeover
[09:35] <melania> seriously, why would ubuntu all of a sudden just decide to start cycling the username/password screens...
[09:35] <soundray> !bugs > Pollywog
[09:35] <rage|work> slacker_nl, yes -- I have a command on my gentoo box 'mysqlrepair' -- my database got hosed up and I need to repair it on my ubuntu box
[09:35] <morrolan> I'm trying to install libsdl1.2-dev, but it depends on libglu1-mesa 6.5.1-20060817, but I have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1+cvs20060824 installed?  Is there anything I can do to resolve this?
[09:35] <rambo3> what is mysqlrepair ? there is safe start
[09:35] <slacker_nl> rage|work: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqlcheck.html
[09:36] <LjL> morrolan: 1) have you not read or not tried the solution i did give you?
[09:36] <abo> soundray, ok cheers (soundconverter was suggested as well... it looks prety good, simple and good)
[09:36] <morrolan> LjL, I'm sorry, I must have missed it?  When was this?
[09:36] <slacker_nl> rambo3: lol, I could not find it via apt-file and aptitude search
[09:36] <Pollywog> soundray: thanks, I will see if I can file a bug report
[09:36] <soundray> melania: remove any heavy objects from your keyboard and mouse ;)
[09:36] <LjL> morrolan: 2) you left earlier about the gz file issue, but the answer you were given was correct and totally not sarcastic. you use "tar" un extract a "tar" file, not a "gz" file. for that you use "gunzip".
[09:36] <melania> :(
[09:36] <LjL> [21:21:53]  <LjL> morrolan: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionname, if the version is actually available
[09:36] <slacker_nl> mysqlcheck I can find with which
[09:36] <LjL> [21:22:19]  <LjL> morrolan: in your case that would probably be  sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa=6.5.1-20060817
[09:36] <AMD-> any way to start MacSlow's Cairo-Clock when i log on ?
[09:37] <melania> is there a way to copy everyting from say sda3 to sda6?
[09:37] <ikonia> melania: man cp
[09:37] <Jetfighter> How do I grant permission to save in usr/local/etc/ folder?
[09:37] <Pollywog> I have used cp -Rv for that
[09:37] <ikonia> Jetfighter: man chmod
[09:37] <morrolan> LjL, I know that, it wasn't you that my comment was aimed at.  I know that the information was correct because it has since worked, but it was the way the information was delivered seemed quite sarcastic to me.  Anyway, it's in the past, and the important thing is, is that the information worked.
[09:37] <Pollywog> cp -Rv
[09:38] <soundray> AMD-: oops, missed your line about lirc. Have you tried with irrecord?
[09:38] <slacker_nl> rage|work: its in the mysql-client packages
[09:38] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:38] <rage|work> slacker_nl, I got it -- thanks
[09:38] <AMD->  soundray: no ,do i need to install it ? is it some kind of plug in for xmms ?
[09:38] <slacker_nl> rage|work: yw
[09:38] <LjL> morrolan: ok. "tar" has the "added bonus" of being able to extract gz and bz2 files too -- which is probably the reason you tried to use "tar" in the first place -- *but* only when they shrink-wrap a .tar file, like in .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 files
[09:39] <catalyst`> does anyone know of a way to do a remote net-install of ubuntu-server?
[09:39] <soundray> AMD-: no, it's part of lirc
[09:39] <melania> so would that be cp /dev/sda3 /dev/sda6
[09:39] <Pollywog> melania: no
[09:39] <LjL> melania: no
[09:39] <ikonia> melania: no - they are devices not file systems
[09:39] <LjL> melania: both must be mounted somewhere
[09:39] <soundray> !install > catalyst`, please read ubotu's private message
[09:39] <morrolan> LjL , I've tried that with libglu1 before and just tried again, and the error I get is: E: Version '6.5.1-20060817' for 'libglu1-mesa' was not found
[09:39] <catalyst`> soundray: ok
[09:39] <LjL> morrolan: then you simply don't have that version available from the repositories, i'm afraid. what was the program that's asking for it?
[09:40] <ernz> New Question: How do I make a new post in Ubuntu Forums. I am logged in, then what?
[09:40] <rambo3> !!netinstall | catalyst`
[09:40] <ubotu> catalyst`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:40] <ikonia> click the "new post" button
[09:40] <LjL> arnz: ask in #ubuntuforums :)
[09:40] <LjL> ernz even
[09:40] <ernz> Thanks
[09:40] <melania> what about mv /home/pump/desktop/*.odt /dev/sda6
[09:41] <ikonia> melania: no - thats move - not copy and thats still a device file - not a file system
[09:41] <soundray> melania: recipe for disaster
[09:41] <slacker_nl> melania: nope, you need to mount /dev/sda6 first
[09:41] <LjL> melania: no. /dev/sda6 is still a device.
[09:41] <morrolan> Loads of programs - games mainly.  UFO:Alien Invasion (XCOM clone), UltimateStunts, Diameter etc.  UFO:AI is frustrating because I wanted to start helping with the project.
[09:41] <AMD-> soundray: ok i will install it
[09:41] <melania> what if i just /dev/sda6/foldername would it create a folder?
[09:41] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:41] <soundray> AMD-: you should have it already if you have lirc...
[09:41] <Ant1moN_> hi! do you know how to launch an app automatically on login in XFCE?
[09:41] <slacker_nl> melania: don't..
[09:41] <ikonia> melania: are you listening ?? /dev/sda6 is a DEVICE file not a FILE SYSTEM
[09:41] <ikonia> you can only copy FILE SYSTEMS
[09:42] <LjL> melania: mkdir /media/sda3; mkdir /media/sda6; mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3; mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6; cp -a /media/sda3/* /media/sda6/
[09:42] <Pollywog> something like 'cp -R /home/pump/desktop /temp' would work if /temp exists
[09:42] <AMD-> soundray: how do i use it
[09:42] <rage|work> what port does the "Remote Desktop" run on?
[09:42] <rage|work> is it vnc's default 5900?
[09:42] <soundray> AMD-: I can't remember. I think there is a manpage
[09:42] <AMD-> soundray:also i have my mce remote confugured the buttons every thing
[09:42] <AMD-> ok
[09:43] <cld2> what metapackage(s) do I need to be able to compile things?
[09:43] <soundray> AMD-: irrecord is for configuring a remote, so you won't need that then
[09:43] <LjL> !build-essential > cld2    (cld2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:43] <cld2> LjL: thanks much.
[09:43] <slacker_nl> rage|work: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/northrup_03may16.mspx and look for port
[09:43] <soundray> AMD-: a very low-level test is to find the lirc device (/dev/lirc/lirc0 or /dev/lirc0 or something like that)
[09:43] <Gena-Trius> Excuse me, I've got this laptop here, and I want to make sure nothing bad will happen if I install Ubuntu on it...
[09:43] <Ireclan> I'm having problems with Visualboy Advance under Ubuntu. Is this the right place to seek help, or should I go to Ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:43] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: no promises - the installer is only as clever as the person driving it
[09:44] <slacker_nl> Ireclan: just ask the question you have :)
[09:44] <razzorz> Gena: thats the all the fun...
[09:44] <soundray> AMD-: and run 'cat /dev/lirc0' and press a few buttons on the remote. This should generate random characters on the screen.
[09:44] <Pollywog> in other words backup your data and don't use the machine you need for work tomorrow
[09:44] <Gena-Trius> Exactly, I want to make sure I'm clever enough. What are some concerns with installing ubuntu on notebooks?
[09:44] <Ireclan> The sound for the game I'm playing is scratchy. Shall I list the game?
[09:44] <AMD-> yeh if i open a terminal and type "irw" i can see my remote key presses
[09:44] <rage|work> slacker_nl, erp.. I meant the one in ubuntu ;x
[09:44] <ikonia> none
[09:45] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: none
[09:45] <razzorz> besides the obvious ... ( keyboard shotcuts ) can someone tell me how to dissable the shift / backspace logout
[09:45] <slacker_nl> rage|work: which one, you can run rdesktop on ubuntu to connect to RDP on windows hosts
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> Gena-Trius: mostly wireless issues... maybe video issues, since most lappys seem to use ATI..
[09:45] <AMD-> 000000037ff07be9 02 Play mceusb
[09:45] <tomas__> Gena-Trius, drivers
[09:45] <soundray> AMD-: hope you can get it going. I'm logging off now
[09:45] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: the only thing that can do damage is you
[09:45] <Gena-Trius> Drivers for what?
[09:45] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: drivers for wifi for example
[09:46] <AndrewLife> Which driver is better: fglrx or the official ati driver?
[09:46] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: it took some work to get wifi to work on my laptop when I installed Ubuntu
[09:46] <Seveas> AndrewLife, fglrx IS the official ati driver
[09:46] <AndrewLife> oh, hahaha
[09:46] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: ubuntu has a whole bunch of docs about installing ubuntu on laptops
[09:46] <Pollywog> it worked out of the box in Linspire but Linspire limited me in small ways
[09:46] <AndrewLife> thank you saveas
[09:46] <rage|work> slacker_nl, the one that acts as a VNC server for incoming connections -- System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop I believe
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Well, there's a support page thing for my wifi card... What could I do if there were video issues?
[09:47] <ikonia> not install it ?
[09:47] <ikonia> delete it
[09:47] <ikonia> fix it
[09:47] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: rt2500?
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Oh, where would those be?
[09:47] <ikonia> up to you
[09:47] <razzorz> lol
[09:47] <Gena-Trius> Huh?
[09:47] <razzorz> ikona: whould you know how to dissable this shift/bkspace logout feature?
[09:48] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: I guess not, it's the wifi type that I have on my laptop
[09:48] <slacker_nl> rage|work: don't know - netstat -anp | grep vnc might help you perhaps
[09:48] <ikonia> razzorz: no idea, I guess its in the gnome doc
[09:48] <ikonia> docs
[09:48] <WorldDomination> hi
[09:48] <Pollywog> it works but it took lots of work and forum posts to get it working
[09:48] <Gena-Trius> I'm sorry, here's the page on my wifi card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBuffalo
[09:48] <Ireclan> Could I get some help with Visualboy advance, please? My sound is all scratchy.
[09:48] <razzorz> ya.. well thats just typical
[09:48] <razzorz> lol
[09:48] <Pollywog> oh you have a Buffalo
[09:49] <winmutt> find  . -exec cat '{}'  ;
[09:49] <winmutt> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[09:49] <winmutt> what am i missing?
[09:49] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: pop in the livecd, if you graphics work with that, I think it will work when you install it :)
[09:49] <ikonia> winmutt: -name
[09:49] <LjL> winmutt: something awkward. you should do \; instead of just ;  if i recall correctly. or something.
[09:49] <slacker_nl> LjL: that's correct
[09:49] <razzorz> ikonia: any thoughts were i should look
[09:49] <ikonia> razzorz: gnome docs
[09:49] <Pollywog> Gena-Trius: don't be scared if the live cd runs slowly, if you do install Ubuntu it is faster when installed
[09:50] <Pollywog> than the cd
[09:50] <stephane_> salut ily a t-il un francais ici
[09:50] <slacker_nl> !french
[09:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:50] <Pollywog> I think one has to be a geek to file one of these bug reports
[09:51] <Gena-Trius> Well, I'd rather not have to download another ISO. I've got a Compaq Armada M700. Does anyone know anything about that?
[09:51] <ikonia> not really
[09:51] <slacker_nl> Pollywog: what kind of bugreports?
[09:51] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: no
[09:51] <MostKnown53> hello
[09:51] <Pollywog> slacker_nl: when I upgraded Edgy, my system would not boot because of the UUID's
[09:51] <slacker_nl> Pollywog: ahh, that :)
[09:51] <Gena-Trius> Any issues specific to Compaq computers, maybe?
[09:51] <ikonia> no
[09:51] <Pollywog> I had to go to a backup fstab after reinstalling
[09:52] <ikonia> compaq made many computers
[09:52] <slacker_nl> Gena-Trius: I have a compaq ncsomething - works fine
[09:52] <ikonia> thats too general
[09:52] <MostKnown53> someone told me a program that will help me install apps in ubuntu but i dont remember what it was does anyone kno
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:52] <ikonia> MostKnown53: automatix - but don't use it
[09:52] <LjL> MostKnown53: Add/Remove Programs or Synaptic
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> Gena-Trius: I have Xubuntu 6.10 on a fairly old Compaq Laptop, seems to work fine
[09:52] <morrolan> LjL, I figured out how to do it :)  In Synaptic, I selected the libglu1-mesa package, clicked properties, clicked the "Versions" tab, and it then tells you how to force an older version by selecting the package, going to the "Package" menu, and then "Force Version".  Certainly useful to know!
[09:52] <I3ooI3oo_werking> apt-get ?
[09:52] <Pollywog> ikonia: yes if you were replying to me, it is too general for a bug report
[09:52] <ikonia> Pollywog: not sorry - not you
[09:52] <Pollywog> hence my geek comment
[09:52] <Pollywog> oh
[09:52] <Pollywog> :)
[09:52] <morrolan> whois LjL
[09:52] <Ireclan> Could I get some help with Visualboy advance, please? My sound is all scratchy.
[09:52] <ikonia> s/not/no
[09:52] <LjL> morrolan: well but it's the same thing as apt-get install package=version i think... at least it should
[09:52] <LjL> morrolan: try with a slash :)
[09:53] <slacker_nl>  /whois ljl :P
[09:53] <LjL> hehe
[09:53] <morrolan> Sorry, I don't mean to pry, I just wanted to see if you were still in the room!
[09:53] <razzorz> STALKER
[09:53] <razzorz> lol
[09:54] <morrolan> channel even.
[09:54] <slacker_nl> i need to go to bed
[09:54] <MostKnown53> what gui are does ubuntu have
[09:54] <morrolan> My god I'm tired now, I've just finally fixed something which I've been banging my head against the wall for over a week because of.
[09:54] <ikonia> MostKnown53: read the docs
[09:54] <ikonia> ubuntu.com
[09:55] <Gena-Trius> You said something about ATI. The laptop's running Windows XP right now. How would I find out if it used ATI graphics without opening the thing up?
[09:55] <MostKnown53> so only gnome
[09:55] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: look at the display properties
[09:55] <ikonia> MostKnown53: no
[09:55] <slacker_nl> MostKnown53: no
[09:55] <ikonia> MostKnown53: read the docs - ubuntu.com
[09:55] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Gena-Trius: check the packing list... or turn it on
[09:55] <LjL> !kde > MostKnown53    (MostKnown53, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:55] <LjL> !xfce > MostKnown53    (MostKnown53, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:55] <Pollywog> MostKnown53: I use kubuntu so I have KDE
[09:56] <slacker_nl> MostKnown53: you can run it with any kind of gui, just pick one
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> pllowog doesn'y ubuntu use gnome by default
[09:56] <Pollywog> yes Gnome by default
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> or is kbuntu with KDE ?
[09:56] <slacker_nl> yes
[09:56] <Pollywog> but in kubuntu it's kde
[09:56] <I3ooI3oo_werking> OIC
[09:56] <MostKnown53> cool kubuntu for me then
[09:56] <Gena-Trius> Ahhh, ATI RAGE. How can I get around this?
[09:57] <slacker_nl> and xubuntu uses xcfe
[09:57] <ikonia> get around what ?
[09:57] <I3ooI3oo_werking> true  KDE is KDE a destop enviroment
[09:57] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: there is nothing to get around
[09:57] <Gena-Trius> I thought you said it wouldn't work with ATI.
[09:57] <N3WB> Thanks to evryone for helping me installing nVidia drivers for Ubuntu (GF8800 GTS) Couldnt done it without ya :D
[09:57] <ikonia> no - there may be issues with ati drivers
[09:57] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i wish i would have known that before installing
[09:57] <Gena-Trius> But it'll work?
[09:57] <ikonia> don't know until you try
[09:58] <Gena-Trius> I'll get the Live CD...
[09:58] <Pollywog> You can change desktops without reinstalling
[09:58] <joker73_> does anyone know if I can get compiz to work whit my ubuntu 64bit and my gf2 ??
[09:58] <ikonia> joker73_: gs2 is a bit weak, but yes
[09:58] <Pollywog> I have Gnome installed too on one machine
[09:58] <I3ooI3oo_werking> yeah i do understand that and have don't it before
[09:58] <I3ooI3oo_werking> *done it befor
[09:58] <slacker_nl> I3ooI3oo_werking: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:59] <erisco> how do I create a zip manually? I need to zip the and preserve empty directories.. by default (through the gui) it is not doing this
[09:59] <ikonia> erisco: man zip
[09:59] <joker73_> and are there some problem to use 64bit and compiz?
[09:59] <ikonia> joker73_: not that I'm aware of
[09:59] <ikonia> works fine
[10:00] <kungfugoat> is tcpflow installed by default?
[10:00] <MostKnown53> wow i just got tried to download from the slowest server ever
[10:00] <joker73_> oki then there is me that is the problem :(
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Hi there, can anyone help me with this problem. Apt-get doesnt work because of some broken dependencies.
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> When I type in sudo apt-get install -f as I am recommended to, the following is displayed.
[10:00] <goodbyewindows>  			 				me@LAPTOP:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Password:
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Reading package lists... Done
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Building dependency tree
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Reading state information... Done
[10:00] <ikonia> no
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> Correcting dependencies... failed.
[10:00] <whonicca> whens feisty coming out
[10:00] <ikonia> stop flooding
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:00] <goodbyewindows>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1.2 is installed
[10:00] <goodbyewindows> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:00] <ikonia> thank you
[10:00] <PriceChild> goodbyewindows, pelase don't paste in channel :)
[10:00] <weedar> If you want to move a folder graphically to a place that needs sudo, can you do that?
[10:00] <erisco> ikonia.. it is like 850 pages long...
[10:00] <ikonia> erisco: what is
[10:00] <erisco> ikonia.. I mean lines. The man for zip :P
[10:00] <jenda> Does anyone (apart from Seveas) have any tips how to reset keyboard layout settings to dfault in X? (XGL, Gnome...)
[10:01] <ikonia> erisco: no its not
[10:01] <ikonia> man zip
[10:01] <sanityx> What's the name of the thing ubuntu replaced init with again?
[10:01] <PriceChild> jenda, a big hammer
[10:01] <erisco> ikonia, oh yes it is lol
[10:01] <ikonia> just read it
[10:01] <PriceChild> !paste | goodbyewindows
[10:01] <ubotu> goodbyewindows: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:01] <James__> is there a good package for using wireless connections in Gnome?  I would like to use WPA-PSK and also see a signal strength bar for available networks.
[10:01] <goodbyewindows> thanks
[10:01] <AndrewLife> weedar: you can use sudo nautilus to open the graphical file manager with root permissions
[10:01] <sanityx> James_ I haven't found any graphical wifi tools to work well for WPA
[10:01] <weedar> AndrewLife: ah, ok :)
[10:02] <erisco> all I need to know is the argument to preserve empty directories =\
[10:02] <slacker_nl> James__: I use ifplugd/guessnet/wpa_supplicant for that
[10:02] <tjb13> hey guys I've been trying to install fiesty on my macbook pro and it works then i run update and it craps out on mouseemu and cups and then asks to restart and when I restart it freezes after the orange bar moves a little
[10:02] <tjb13> any ideas?
[10:02] <slacker_nl> James__: no gui though, but there is a package called wpagui
[10:02] <PriceChild> tjb13, > #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ikonia> tjb13: join #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ikonia> why does no-one read the topic ?????
[10:02] <UB`> erisco search it in the man whit /empty for example
[10:02] <UB`> with*
[10:02] <Ireclan> I'm having audio problems with Visualboy Advance. Could someone please help me?
[10:03] <tjb13> PriceChils wait why?
[10:03] <ikonia> tjb13: thats where fesity support is
[10:03] <tjb13> oh thanks guys
[10:03] <tjb13> i appreciate it
[10:03] <davehimself> my install does a fsck on every boot... how can I stop this?
[10:03] <goodbyewindows> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10396/
[10:03] <winmutt> find .  *mp3 -exec checkmp3 -sf '{}'>'{}-fixed'; mv '{}-fixed' '{}' \;
[10:03] <winmutt> how do i get the pipe to be escaped?
[10:03] <erisco> UB` no luck :(
[10:03] <ikonia> what pipe ?
[10:04] <PriceChild> jenda, Was it "fine" for the new user?
[10:04] <slacker_nl> bruenig: complicated
[10:04] <Gena-Trius> I can't find the Live CD!
[10:04] <zipper_> Hmm, what to do if kmix shows the wrong "thing" as the main volume control (when you click the icon)? I want to change it from headphones to PCM - is that possible?
[10:04] <bruenig> !info checkmp3
[10:04] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: if you're not on the ball enough to download the ubuntu cd - then perhaps ubuntu is not for you
[10:04] <ubotu> checkmp3: identify MP3s that do not follow the MP3 format. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.98-5.1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:04] <Caspe1> hello every1
[10:04] <jenda> PriceChild: I didn't check :)
[10:04] <ikonia> minimal install requirments ability to download cd
[10:04] <jenda> PriceChild: just a sec...
[10:04] <PriceChild> jenda, well check! :)
[10:04] <PriceChild> :P
[10:05] <Gena-Trius> ikonia, I have downloaded ubuntu. I'm using it on this computer, tright now.
[10:05] <Ireclan> I'm having audio problems with Visualboy Advance. Could someone please help me?
[10:05] <erisco> there MUST be a way to include empty directories...
[10:05] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: so whats the problem ?
[10:05] <ikonia> erisco: yup - just zip it up
[10:05] <erisco> ikonia, it isn't preserving empty directories.. it is removing them
[10:05] <Caspe1> who want to help me? i swear ill do what im told!!:)
[10:06] <PriceChild> Caspe1, ask your question and see
[10:06] <erisco> ikonia, in both the GUI and the terminal
[10:06] <MostKnown53> can someone find me a faster server to download Kubuntu dvd 6.10
[10:06] <winmutt> bruenig: i am trying to fix alll my mp3s
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, there is with tar
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol
[10:06] <PriceChild> MostKnown53, tried torrenting it?
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, may be with zip also, but I don't know much about zip
[10:06] <erisco> sethk, but I don't think a tar will work on windows =\
[10:06] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: which ammused you today
[10:06] <Gena-Trius> In fact, I downloaded Xubuntu, then used Synaptic to install ubuntu-desktop. I just can't find where it says "Download Live CD here" on the website.
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, of course it will
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: minimum install requirements..lol
[10:06] <slacker_nl> erisco: it will, winzip supports it
[10:06] <Caspe1> cant get avi to play, ive done all codecs and all players through automatix
[10:06] <erisco> sethk, will it? ah, good
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, ALL the linux utilities are available for windows
[10:06] <bruenig> winmutt, does checkmp3 require that you rename them, because it seems like rename them and then renaming them again is an unnecessary step
[10:06] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: ahhhh they are key
[10:06] <erisco> awesome.
[10:06] <Askar> Hi! I cannot empty my trashcan..I have not the right priviliges..how to solve that?
[10:06] <MostKnown53> no i havent
[10:06] <sethk> erisco, see www.cygwin.com
[10:07] <MostKnown53> i need a x86 based one
[10:07] <slacker_nl> erisco: and 7zip will play nicely with tar as well
[10:07] <sethk> erisco, warning, addictive
[10:07] <Gena-Trius> Ikonia, the thing that I just said.
[10:07] <goodbyewindows> im having trouble with apt-get, broken dependecies: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10396/
[10:07] <winmutt> bruenig: it only outputs to console
[10:07] <slacker_nl> erisco: and you have gnuwin32 packages which support tar :)
[10:07] <sethk> slacker_nl, yes, good point, I forgot that about 7zip
[10:07] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: what thing, you said you couldn't find the cd - then you said you're running it
[10:07] <joker73_> when i try to import the gpg key with the comand  "get http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add - " I get a Resolving ubuntu.compiz.net... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution error does anyone have any solusions
[10:07] <PriceChild> Askar, "sudo chown username:username -R /home/username/.Trash" replacing username with your username
[10:07] <PriceChild> joker73_, > #ubuntu-effects and that's a VERY OLD tutorial
[10:07] <sethk> joker73_, try the command line command       host ubuntu.compiz.net
[10:07] <ikonia> joker73_: means that site doesn't exust
[10:08] <slacker_nl> sethk: that was my lover once I decided not to use warez on windows anymore
[10:08] <sethk> joker73_, the name may no longer be valid
[10:08] <sethk> slacker_nl, ok  :)
[10:08] <jgw> who do i report racist content in ubuntu's fortune to?
[10:08] <Caspe1> does any1 know how to get avi to play?
[10:08] <IndyGunFreak> !avi
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <MostKnown53> now i need a bittorrent client
[10:08] <Gena-Trius> Oh, is the normal installer CD the same thing as the Live install CD?
[10:09] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: yes
[10:09] <slacker_nl> jgw: run fortune without the insult "module"
[10:09] <PriceChild> jgw, #ubuntu-ops please
[10:09] <ikonia> as I said earlier "read the docs"
[10:09] <rwxr-xr--> can someone help me with lan chat client?
[10:09] <IndyGunFreak> MostKnown53: i like Ktorrent, but Bittorrent and Azeurus are good tol.
[10:09] <Gena-Trius> Oh!
[10:09] <Gena-Trius> I'm sorry ikonia, my mistake.
[10:09] <lilrayray> hi all, I am having some serious crashes (ubuntu randomly seizes up completely to the point where I have to physically shut my computer down).  From what I can tell, it is related in some way to my internet since so far, My computer has only frozen when browsing the web (with both firefox and opera).  I have pasted my kernel.log.0 incase it might help diagnose the problem.  Anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[10:09] <Craeo> Azeurus, seems rather difficult to install when I was reading the instructions
[10:10] <ikonia> Gena-Trius: start by reading the docs
[10:10] <xtknight> lilrayray, url or pastebin for the log?
[10:10] <bruenig> winmutt, won't the mv command fail since what you are renaming them to will already exist
[10:10] <MostKnown53> nvm i still have utorrent on my computer
[10:10] <joker73_> does anyone know a good how to get compiz on my 64 bit ubunt
[10:10] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo: its in the repos i'm pretty sure.
[10:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i msg ya .. i think u was not here.
[10:10] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, just got here
[10:10] <xtknight> what's up?
[10:10] <sethk> lilrayray, check also /var/log/messages.  do    ls -ltr /var/log     which will print the log files in reverse timestamp order (meaning the most recently changed last)
[10:10] <bruenig> !compiz | joker73_ I don't think it can be done but if it can...
[10:10] <ubotu> joker73_ I don't think it can be done but if it can...: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  okie. man.
[10:10] <sethk> lilrayray, unfortunately the odds of finding something in the logs is quite low.
[10:11] <slacker_nl> bruenig: mv will override the file if already present
[10:11] <lilrayray> xtknight: hi again, I managedto paste it in windows, here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10242/
[10:11] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: Maybe, I haven't actually tried to install it yet, I'm still learning how to use linux and the command line, I did manager to get KTorrent up and running thought
[10:11] <bruenig> ok
[10:11] <ikonia> joker73_: I don't think there are any ubuntu packages for compiz any more as it uses beryl now
[10:11] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: Though**
[10:11] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo:     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[10:11] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, seen it before, generally nothing to worry about.  probably due to Xgl/Beryl
[10:11] <sethk> lilrayray, most likely thing is a hardware memory failure.  If the memory hasn't been tested recently, try booting up the memory tester
[10:11] <lilrayray> sethk: that's too bad.  What was really odd though, was that my comp froze every time I clicked "paste" on paste bin
[10:11] <AlessandroD> Hello
[10:11] <rwxr-xr-->  xtknight : but there is no user to chat :< what should i do ?
[10:11] <sethk> lilrayray, repeatably?
[10:11] <MostKnown53> i love my 12MB connection
[10:12] <lilrayray> sethk: three times in a row
[10:12] <shatrat> ikonia, what?  ubuntu doesnt have much to do with packaging either, but compiz is included in feisty by default
[10:12] <sethk> lilrayray, does it freeze every time you paste?  or do you have to paste several times before it freezes?
[10:12] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, what do you mean?  you don't need to chat with anyone about this, not much of a problem.  you can safely ignore the message
[10:12] <shatrat> ikonia, whereas beryl isnt, and you still need a 3rd party repo
[10:12] <Craeo> IndyGunFreak: I'm running 6.06
[10:12] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : u check my msg ? igave ya pastebin url?
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> Craeo:    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[10:12] <lilrayray> sethk: Well, yesterday, the first time I tried it froze, then the second time it froze, and I stopped after the third consecutive time
[10:12] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : nothing problem with that boot problem..
[10:12] <AlessandroD> I'm having problens connecting to a network.
[10:13] <ikonia> shatrat: how can ubuntu say beryl is the direction of choice - but then include compiz ?
[10:13] <sethk> lilrayray, that's reasonable.  :)
[10:13] <evo_> how did you paste to pastebin then?
[10:13] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, yes i saw the last one about the problems while starting 'trix'.  i dont think there is much to worry about there, either.
[10:13] <xethx> Hello all
[10:13] <shatrat> ikonia, I haven't seen where they have said that.  Beryl wasnt packaged and ready in time for the freeze so it wasnt included.
[10:13] <sethk> lilrayray, it's possible that the reason it seizes up on paste is that paste uses a big chunk of memory.  I would run the memory tester just to eliminate the hardware as a possible source of the problem.
[10:13] <shatrat> ikonia, beryl is also broken on XGL right now, as well as having some other fun bugs
[10:13] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : but.. app is opened and no users there ..
[10:13] <xethx> i was wonring im trying to install  et-linux-2.55.x86.run but i dont know how
[10:14] <joker73_> so is there any one who have a ide on what if any is the best sulution to get any of the cool 3d desktop on a 64 bit ubuntu
[10:14] <xethx> can someone help?
[10:14] <lilrayray> sethk: ok, how long does the test take?
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : want to transfers some files through trix.
[10:14] <bruenig> joker73_, install the 32 bit version of ubuntu
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ah ok, i didn't know what trix was
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i tried to remove and install it again ..
[10:14] <IndyGunFreak> !someone | xethx
[10:14] <ubotu> xethx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:14] <ikonia> shatrat: yes, I'm aware it has issues - but its "supposed" to be the ubuntu choice
[10:14] <sethk> lilrayray, depends on how much memory, but, generally, a _long_ time.  It's the kind of thing you want to run when you go to sleep, and hope it finishes by the time you wake up.
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, no idea about trix i've never used it
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : trix ix local chat client like vyqchat ..
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i dont think the problem is related
[10:14] <lilrayray> sethk: arg, I have 2gb of ram
[10:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, the errors it's giving you are BadDevice (some unserious mouse problems)
[10:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : is any app like. that? for local chat ? with sending n Reciveing file options
[10:15] <Arv3n> Can aonye help me? After installing i get the error "APCI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3", I turn on SW Single Processor mode and it all goes away. Help?
[10:15] <xethx> can someone walk me throug the process
[10:15] <sethk> lilrayray, definitely an overnighter.
[10:15] <shatrat> ikonia, I've never seen anything to suggest it was preferred over compiz.
[10:15] <lilrayray> sethk: haha, well I am used to letting processes run over night
[10:15] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : want to chat with local lan users and want to get some files too.
[10:15] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, hmm.  gnome meeting maybe
[10:15] <lilrayray> sethk: I have a pretty fast computer, so it should help the scan right?
[10:16] <evo_> if you have fast memory, yes
[10:16] <sethk> lilrayray, somewhat, but it's still going to be slow.
[10:16] <Checkka> if I installed java  through synaptic, how do i associate it with firefox in ubuntu?
[10:16] <evo_> if you have lots of memory, that will slow it
[10:16] <lilrayray> sethk: too bad, well thanks for the help
[10:16] <Arv3n> Can aonye help me? After installing i get the error "APCI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3", I turn on SW Single Processor mode and it all goes away. Help?
[10:16] <sethk> lilrayray, I mean, 8 hours is twice as fast as 16 hours, but 8 hours is still a long time.
[10:16] <evo_> if it runs for an hour without an error, you're probably okay
[10:16] <xtknight> sethk, are you talking about duration of memtest?
[10:16] <ikonia> shatrat: interesting
[10:16] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : Where i found this gnome metting?
[10:16] <lilrayray> evo_: what does it do in the first hour?
[10:16] <sethk> Arv3n, turn off power save features and turn multiple processors back on
[10:16] <sethk> xtknight, yes
[10:17] <evo_> it is constantly checking memory, it does many tests with many patterns of tests
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, how? In the BIOS, but where? I have an eMachines T5212.
[10:17] <sethk> xtknight, I've seen it take close to four hours for a single test cycle
[10:17] <xtknight> sethk,  my memtest for 2G completed in 2 hrs.
[10:17] <evo_> it tells you how many cycles it has done as it runs
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, do you want to know my Mobo?
[10:17] <sethk> Arv3n, no, I mean in the kernel.
[10:17] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:17] <lilrayray> xtknight: what is your ram clock speed?
[10:17] <sethk> Arv3n, sure, tell us the mobo, but it probably won't help much
[10:17] <IndyGunFreak> xethx: what do you need walked through?
[10:17] <xtknight> sethk, i dont know though, it may have been a different test.  i dont think i ran anything advanced, just the normal regiment
[10:17] <Arv3n> SethK, Oh, thank you.
[10:17] <ro1> !wifi
[10:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:17] <slacker_nl> bye all
[10:18] <sethk> xtknight, ok, 2 hours is much better.  but it is still not something you want to be waiting around for.
[10:18] <xtknight> where is GnomeMeeting?
[10:18] <lilrayray> sethk: I have plenty of other things to do to keep me occupied
[10:18] <Arv3n>  Intel D102GGC2
[10:18] <Narb> How do i get my Ubuntu install "connected" to my windows network? (Workgroup: HOME)
[10:18] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i don't know any other apps i dont even know if Ubuntu still has Gnome meeting
[10:18] <sethk> xtknight, that's very good.  My testing was on some embedded systems using older processors.
[10:18] <ro1> !wifi
[10:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:18] <sethk> Arv3n, I've not heard anything nasty about that mobo.
[10:19] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i check all menus that options is not there :) well nevamind.. looking for new app like trix.. well anyway thanks
[10:19] <xtknight> lilrayray, um..400mhz? (ddr2-800)
[10:19] <shatrat> samba | Narb what you need is samba
[10:19] <Arv3n> Seth, how do I turn it off in the kernel?
[10:19] <Caspe1> can i make opera my default browser, rather than firfox?
[10:19] <shatrat> rats
[10:19] <Arv3n> Seth, or is it in the forums?
[10:19] <shatrat> !samba | Narb
[10:19] <ubotu> Narb: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:19] <xtknight> lilrayray, nah it's 200 mhzx4 = 800 ddr2
[10:19] <ro1> If my wireless device turns up as a wired one. I need to check my drivers?
[10:19] <lilrayray> xtknight: huh? all I know is that I have dual channel 667 mhz ram
[10:19] <AlessandroD> I can't connect to a Windows computer over an Ethernet cable. I think the problem has to do with IPv6; the network is IPv4
[10:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, ddr2-667?
[10:20] <lilrayray> xtkinght: yep
[10:20] <sethk> AlessandroD, unlikely, if the network doesn't respond to ipv6 it will just revert to ipv4
[10:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, i dont know, never ran memtest on this pc.  ddr400 was the one where i did 2 g in 2 hrs
[10:20] <sebrock> rol what does ifconfig say
[10:20] <shatrat> AlessandroD, are you trying to connect directly between two computers iwth a normal ethernet cable?
[10:20] <sebrock> sorry rol iwconfig
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> Password:
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> root@freddy:~# trix
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[10:20] <rwxr-xr--> root@freddy:~#
[10:20] <lilrayray> xtknight: well Ill hope for the best
[10:20] <AlessandroD> so what do I do?
[10:20] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: stop asking about trix
[10:21] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia,  Why? its not supported linux? or Ubuntu?
[10:21] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: did you install it from the ubuntu repo's
[10:21] <lilrayray> sethk: just out of curiosity, what is something else (not online) that requires large amounts of ram consumption?
[10:21] <Caspe1> linux rules!!! just wish i knew what i was doing :)
[10:21] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : no from the sourceforge
[10:21] <mike930> is there a kernel optimized for core 2 duo's?
[10:21] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: ok - so its not supported by ubuntu
[10:21] <lilrayray> Caspel: haha, just as I feel
[10:22] <ikonia> mike930: no
[10:22] <sethk> lilrayray, oh, open office writer will use a ton of memory, especially with a large file
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> Caspe1: I'm pretty sure its System/Preferences/Preferred Applications...  then make the command "Opera"..
[10:22] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : well i m totally new dont know much about at all .. sorry
[10:22] <joker73_> so is there any one who have a ide on what if any is the best sulution to get any of the cool 3d desktop on a gf2 ?
[10:22] <mike930> ikonia: which kernel is better for duo's?
[10:22] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: ok - you need to find the trix support group
[10:22] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, : using ubuntu 1st time..
[10:22] <Caspe1> thanks indy
[10:22] <xtknight> mike930, there is an arch you can choose for 'core 2 duo' in kernel config.
[10:22] <ikonia> mike930: there is only the generic kernel
[10:22] <lilrayray> sethk: ok, I guess i could try filling up a couple of pages and see if it crashes
[10:22] <sethk> lilrayray, if you have it installed, it's a good test.
[10:22] <shatrat> mikalaukka, just use the -generic kernel if youre on edgy, it will pick up the SMP
[10:22] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: your config/problems are nothing to do with ubuntu - find the trix support group
[10:22] <xtknight> mike930, not actually an arch rather a...sub-arch or something like it
[10:23] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, okie man :<
[10:23] <patrick_> Hi. Just wondering. I have a ubuntu server running php5 and apache.... and sending email with the php mail() function somehow takes a long time. Any ideas what can be slowing things down? Is there a setting somewhere I should change or something?
[10:23] <mike930> xtknight: will it improve speed?
[10:23] <sethk> lilrayray, you can use dd to create a large empty file or a large file with random data
[10:23] <xtknight> mike930, likely <1%
[10:23] <shatrat> mike930, what distro are you using? if youre on edgy just use -generic
[10:23] <sethk> mike930, depends on what you are doing, but not as dramatically as you might think
[10:23] <mike930> so should I stick with generic?
[10:23] <AlessandroD> in GNOME's network manager and in ifconfig eth0 only has an IPv6 address. The loopback interface displays both IPv6 and IPv4.
[10:23] <ikonia> mike930: there is no other option
[10:23] <mike930> shatrat: edgy
[10:23] <xethx> can someone please walk me through installing this file " et-linux-2.55.x86.run"
[10:24] <sethk> AlessandroD, as long as ifconfig shows the ipv4 address, I wouldn't worry about what network manager shows
[10:24] <rwxr-xr--> ikonia, is Ubuntu repo's have any app for local lan chat?
[10:24] <mike930> thanka
[10:24] <shatrat> xethx, there is a how-to on the ubuntuforums.org gaming section I believe.
[10:24] <xtknight> mike930, well i dont see why not to compile a core duo kernel even if there's ANY increase.  as long as you know how to  compile a kernel and it's not much trouble, why not.  youll als oget benefit from using 2.6.20 over 2.6.17 speedwise in a lot of cases
[10:24] <mikeconcepts> does anyone know a free newsgroup server?
[10:24] <mike930> thanks
[10:24] <ikonia> rwxr-xr--: search them
[10:24] <I3ooI3oo_werking> sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:24] <joker73_> is it compiz or
[10:24] <lilrayray> sethk: I have 15 pages of text and it wont let me type anymore
[10:24] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: why are you doing that ?
[10:25] <AlessandroD> ifconfig shows IPv4 only in the loopback interface. eth0 only has IPv6 address...
[10:25] <sethk> lilrayray, what happens?  I have several documents over 50 pages.  what does it say?
[10:25] <Caspe1> any1 want to go for coffee? i need a break
[10:25] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Doing what Ikonia ?
[10:25] <jeanre> how do I enable userdir support in apache?
[10:25] <joker73_> is it compiz or beryl the best chose on a gf2 ?
[10:25] <shatrat> mikeconcepts, it's possible that your ISP provides one, check their web page.
[10:25] <sethk> AlessandroD, that's pretty odd.  Use ifconfig to set an IPv4 address
[10:25] <lilrayray> sethk: nothing, no freezing, I just cant type any more
[10:25] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: using the nvidia drivers
[10:26] <sethk> lilrayray, just no response, you mean?  if you go to a terminal, does it respond there?
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> I did and they do, this is for a friend in japan on eonet.ne.jp
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> cause i didn't know better
[10:26] <mike930> can you run nvidia-glx and beryl on generic kernel?
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> they don't provide newsgroups
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> and nobody in 3 days would answer me execpt u today
[10:26] <AlessandroD> how do I do that? I'm supposed to get it by DHCP from the Win computer
[10:26] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: but I spent time with you earlier explaining how to get your card working
[10:26] <ikonia> why ignore that advice
[10:26] <ikonia> after the time I spent
[10:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i know but am not home yet
[10:26] <cld2> anyone know what package contains X11/Xlib.h and X11/Xutil.h ?
[10:27] <ikonia> so why break your box rather than just wait until you get home
[10:27] <lilrayray> sethk: nope, it responds just fine, if I delete a character, I can enter in a character.  It just seems to have reached a limit
[10:27] <ikonia> just rude
[10:27] <I3ooI3oo_werking> not ignored still at working
[10:27] <LjL> !find Xlib.h | cld2
[10:27] <ubotu> cld2: File xlib.h found in graphviz-dev, kvirc-dev, libax25-dev, libcairo2-dev, libcegui-mk2-dev (and 8 others)
[10:27] <cld2> LjL: thanks again.
[10:27] <Craeo> If I have a .deb file, like I downloaded wine and I use tried to use dpkg -i command to install it but it says it was missing some libwine file. Isn't .deb files similar to rar or zip files?
[10:27] <LjL> cld2: eew. well they're really in...
[10:27] <xtknight> mike930, yes you can ru nti on a general
[10:27] <sethk> lilrayray, hmm., that's really odd.  I just opened up a 65 pager, just to be sure I wasn't telling lies here.
[10:27] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Ikonia if you could get my boss to less me go so i could try that out like you suggested i would
[10:27] <xethx> shatrat, Nope
[10:27] <ikonia> I3ooI3oo_werking: so what are you installin the nvidia drivers on ?
[10:27] <xtknight> mike930, ..yes you can run it on a generic*
[10:27] <lilrayray> sethk: ubuntu doesnt like me
[10:28] <LjL> cld2: libx11-dev
[10:28] <emet> Craeo, no they aren't
[10:28] <sethk> lilrayray, doesn't like something about your hardware, perhaps
[10:28] <cld2> LjL: thanks.
[10:28] <emet> Craeo, I recommend "apt-get install wine" to install Wine
[10:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> I am not installing anything somebody asked how to run that file
[10:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> i answered
[10:28] <Dumahen> !apache
[10:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:28] <ikonia> I see
[10:28] <LjL> cld2: and to look this kind of thing up for yourself, you can use
[10:28] <lilrayray> sethk: I suppose that is the main thing holding linux back from becoming a widely used (more so) OS
[10:28] <LjL> !apt-file > cld2    (cld2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:28] <Craeo> emet: Is that the command line I should use? 'sudo apt-get install'
[10:28] <pfein_> So I just picked up a second card (USB), in addition to my laptop's built-in one.  How can I get amarok to use it?
[10:29] <I3ooI3oo_werking> s/he ask how to install a .run file
[10:29] <cld2> LjL: thanks very much for that last tip as well
[10:29] <ro1> when I run a iwconfig my wla0 comes up with no wireless extentions
[10:29] <emet> yes always use sudo if you need root
[10:29] <sethk> lilrayray, it really doesn't happen frequently.  I have dozens of machines running it here, and many more at work.  I've only come across one x86 architecture machine that would simply not run it, and it was using a weird NEC processor.
[10:29] <emet> sudo is very important command in ubuntu
[10:29] <emet> and so is apt-get
[10:30] <I3ooI3oo_werking> thanks again for the help i will let you know if it helped me out... if not i will come back and give you shit since you were so nice helping me backhandly as it was...
[10:30] <ikonia> language !
[10:30] <ikonia> whats the need for the language
[10:30] <Checkka> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:30] <Caspe1> i hate avi codecs soo much at the momemt, im loosing the battle, i hate loosing!!!
[10:31] <lilrayray> sethk: well, Im using a dell and their mobos tend to be a little quirky
[10:31] <sethk> lilrayray, yes, quite so.
[10:31] <con-man> I have no sounds, speakers work fine, Detects audio card, mixer sliders appear to good, any ideas?
[10:31] <sethk> lilrayray, actually, not exactly quirky, just cheap POSs.  :)
[10:31] <Qaldune> con-man run alsamixer
[10:31] <lilrayray> sethk: Im thinking about investing and simply replacing the mobo/fan/and cpu
[10:32] <xethx> can someone please walk me through installing  et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:32] <xtknight> lilrayray, what mobo again?
[10:32] <razzorz> when loading Java ... what packages am i lookin for?
[10:32] <xtknight> xethx, sh et-linux...run
[10:32] <ikonia> xethx: why are you not using the drivers out of the ubuntu repo's
[10:32] <con-man> Qaldune: did that
[10:32] <xtknight> et-linux is not a driver
[10:32] <xtknight> enemy territory :)
[10:32] <sethk> lilrayray, I've found that good parts are worth the investment, especially if you are only building one or two machines.
[10:32] <AlessandroD> how do I do that? I'm supposed to get it by DHCP from the Win computer
[10:32] <Qaldune> con-man can't help you further sorry
[10:32] <lilrayray> xtknight: what I currently have? I think it is a dell based off of the Intel 945p chipset
[10:32] <xethx> ikonia, is it in ubu's repos?
[10:32] <erisco> how do you preserve empty directories when making a tar?
[10:33] <xethx> ikonia, and waht drivers
[10:33] <xtknight> xethx, enemy territory is not in the repositories
[10:33] <ikonia> xethx: nvidia drivers are in the ubuntu repo's. Isn't that package an nvidia driver (I could be wrong)
[10:33] <lilrayray> sethk: well a quad intel would certainly wipe my PD all over the floor
[10:33] <ikonia> erisco: it should do
[10:33] <cpk1> AlessandroD: try running dhclient if you are trying to get an ip form a dhcp server
[10:33] <xtknight> ikonia, it's actually a .run package for Wolfenstein Enemy Territory (game)
[10:33] <hendaus> hiya
[10:33] <ikonia> xtknight: ahhh
[10:33] <sethk> erisco, try --preserve
[10:33] <xethx> ikonia, no thats not, its the game
[10:33] <erisco> ikonia, on default it isn't. I read the entire --help
[10:33] <hendaus> can anyone help me
[10:33] <ikonia> xtknight: thought it was nvidia
[10:33] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: u busy???
[10:33] <xtknight> even then i'd recommend using latest .run drivers from nvidia
[10:33] <ikonia> erisco: if you do tar cvf /var/tmp/file.tar . it will preserve emtpy dirs
[10:34] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, a tad
[10:34] <razzorz> anyone? ... when loading pokerstars it askes for java enviroment.... what am i looking for?
[10:34] <AlessandroD> lhanks for the help, 'll do it now
[10:34] <ikonia> razzorz: "java"
[10:34] <boingolov> razzorz, it's looking for a...  java environment ;)
[10:34] <xtknight> lilrayray, sudo lshw -short -class system
[10:34] <sethk> lilrayray, sure, but remember that the payback for multi-core is relatively small.  Unless it is a very heavily used server, you may not actually feel any improvement on a 4 core box vs. a two core box
[10:34] <bruenig> !es | hendaus
[10:34] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: how do i get to read and write my ntfs hardisks
[10:34] <ubotu> hendaus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:34] <riaal> what grapical apt is best for connecting to a wireless?
[10:34] <xtknight> !ntfs-3g | Dreamxtreme
[10:34] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:35] <xtknight> lilrayray, that should give u ur mainboard's name
[10:35] <hendaus> bruenig,  sorry but i want help from here
[10:35] <lilrayray> sethk: i do a lot of CG as a hobby so I would benefit greatly from a quad
[10:35] <Dreamxtreme> cheers
[10:35] <ro1> hello?
[10:35] <lilrayray> xtknight: ok, one sec
[10:35] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: cheers
[10:35] <sethk> lilrayray, ok, sounds like you've checked it out.
[10:35] <chktckt> How can I merge directories?
[10:35] <sethk> lilrayray, some people labor under the misconception that a quad core box will go twice as fast as a dual core.
[10:35] <chktckt> I have a directory /root/fake-root-directory and I want to merge the contents of that into the root directory.
[10:35] <chktckt> So there's a /root/fake-root-directory/etc/samba/smb.conf for example. How would I be able to get that as well as /root/fake-root-directory/usr/sbin/myprog installed in the appropriate places in / ?
[10:36] <lilrayray> xtknight: Dell DXP051
[10:36] <razzorz> boninholv: i know this.. i typed in "java"  what do i need ??? ie : java-gcj-compat-plugin, Java runtime environment with GCJ, Java runtime environment using GIJ   ????
[10:36] <sethk> chktckt, cp -av  (the v part just makes it noisy)
[10:36] <lilrayray> sethk: certainly faster as long as the program is multi-threaded
[10:36] <pdxuser> Hey, I'm running Ubuntu for the first time!  Yay for me!  But I have a problem...
[10:36] <hendaus> bruenig,  i am coming back from work, i come back to anyone can help
[10:36] <runlevel-work> root
[10:36] <chktckt> sethk: It's not an archive though.
[10:36] <runlevel-work> Jdis8s0
[10:36] <runlevel-work> uh
[10:36] <runlevel-work> ooops
[10:36] <chktckt> sethk: It's a directory structure. Would that still work?
[10:36] <sethk> lilrayray, not always.  depends on how well written the thing is.  It's quite easy to build a multithreaded program where all the threads except one are waiting.  :)
[10:37] <sethk> chktckt, yes
[10:37] <sethk> chktckt, you can also use tar in copy mode, but that's a bit trickier.  If cp -a won't do what you need, I'll talk to you about using tar to copy
[10:37] <lilrayray> sethk: true, but commercial 3D software runs nicely
[10:37] <^Albe^> hi to all, fast question: wich on is better ubu or kubu to setup a wireless wpa lan?
[10:37] <sethk> lilrayray, yes, I'd hope so.
[10:37] <Caspe1> ok who wants to help me with getting avi to work, i swear ive tried everything except the correctway
[10:37] <erisco> ikonia, I did  "$tar -vcf test.tar test" but it still did not preserve empty directories
[10:37] <shatrat> !ask | pdxuser
[10:37] <ubotu> pdxuser: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:38] <lilrayray> sethk: I wish the OSes would benefit more from them
[10:38] <sethk> erisco, try --preserve
[10:38] <sethk> lilrayray, indeed.  Time for a new OS  :)
[10:38] <sethk> lilrayray, you write it, and I'll tell you why it's no good.  :)
[10:38] <ro1> If my lshw lists my wireless card as simply ethernet should I be looking at my drivers?
[10:39] <chktckt> I don't want anything destroyed that already exists. Like if I have /etc/subdir and if I have /root/fake-root-directory/etc without /root/fake-root-directory/etc/subdir, I don't want /etc to lose subdir.
[10:39] <lilrayray> sethk: yes, with my minimal knowledge of C++
[10:39] <hendaus> somebody help me :)
[10:39] <sethk> lilrayray, I was commenting on the relative difficulty of doing something, vs. sniping at it.  :)
[10:39] <Knight_Lord> How I replace the contents of a file without changing its timestamp in an easy way?
[10:39] <lilrayray> sethk: oh, haha
[10:39] <pdxuser> I can run it fine from the CD on my new computer, but trying to run and then install it from the CD on my old computer won't work.  It runs incredibly slowly off the CD, there's an error saying some bit of Ubuntu that displays the visual style won't run but that it will try to run it next time and that it's ok if it's not running, and then when I click the Install icon it churns away for literally a couple minutes then hangs so
[10:39] <erisco> sethk, no luck :(
[10:40] <sethk> chktckt, you won't lose things.  You can cover up one version with another if you aren't careful.
[10:40] <Caspe1> hendaus, id help u, but i cant help myself, so sorry
[10:40] <sethk> erisco, I just ran a quick test, and I preserved my empty directories.
[10:40] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, use the 'touch --time 'command to restore a particular timestamp
[10:40] <pdxuser> (it = Ubuntu)
[10:40] <sethk> erisco, tell up specifically what you are doing, exactly what command line you used.
[10:40] <lilrayray> sethk: is it possible that these freezing problems could be a problem with my wireless adapter?
[10:40] <Knight_Lord> xtknight thank you so much :-)
[10:40] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, or copy, then use touch -r oldfile newfile  it uses oldfile as a ref for timestamp
[10:40] <razzorz> bought a enclosure kit for my many ide drives.... whats a good formating toll so i can use in with linux... curently NTFS...
[10:40] <erisco> sethk, I tried "$tar --preserve -cf test.tar test" and "$tar -cf test.tar test --preserve" without avail
[10:41] <Knight_Lord> xtknight that's even better :-)
[10:41] <sethk> lilrayray, sure, if there is a hardware problem, anything that generates interrupts are possible causes.
[10:41] <hendaus> Caspe1, ok thanx :) but i have a movie film.DAT and i want to burn it as vcd
[10:41] <p_masho> how can I find out what "depth" my current screen is? can see the resolutions but not the former ?
[10:41] <Knight_Lord> xtknight thanks for the tip
[10:41] <xtknight> Knight_Lord, no problem
[10:41] <sethk> erisco, I'll try again here, hold on a moment.
[10:41] <boingolov> erisco, man fdisk and mke2fs
[10:42] <^Albe^> wich one is better ubu or kubu to setup a wireless wpa lan? reading around seems that ubu need k for setup it
[10:42] <Akuma> anyone here uses VirtualBox?
[10:42] <Caspe1> hmm, i understand ur problem, i wish u the very best of luck with it, i cant even get avi codecs to play
[10:42] <^Albe^> is that true?
[10:42] <lilrayray> sethk: thanks again for the help, Im going to try to get a d-link working to see if there is any improvement
[10:42] <pdxuser> Is it possible that a CD drive could read too slowly to run Ubuntu in a stable way?
[10:42] <sethk> erisco, It works fine here.  I didn't even need --preserve.  I just used tar cvjf tartest.tar.bz2 directory-name
[10:42] <evo_> pdxuser: unlikely, more likely a bad burn
[10:43] <sethk> erisco, created three empty directories.  In fact, the tar file has _only_ empty directories in it.
[10:43] <pdxuser> evo: It works fine on my newer computer.
[10:43] <razzorz> about that formating tool??? anyone?
[10:43] <evo_> any dmesg output pdxuser ?
[10:43] <erisco> sethk, then I have no idea what isn't working :( I even tried your exact line and it didn't work for me
[10:44] <erisco> sethk, it lists the empty directories but it doesn't put them in the archive
[10:44] <r4nge> if permitrootlogin is disabled, will i still be able to sudo from a remote pc
[10:44] <jrib> r4nge: yes
[10:44] <sethk> erisco, I created the archive, and extracted from it, and it created all of the empty directories.
[10:44] <Caspe1> any1 know how to play avi files?
[10:44] <jrib> !avi | Caspe1
[10:44] <ubotu> Caspe1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:44] <bigjohnto> how can i make xming recognize my second monitor as its display instead of my first monitor
[10:44] <erisco> sethk, maybe it is my archive viewer?
[10:44] <r4nge> ok, because i just went trhough my auth logs and i've had quite a few attempts from countries like china and korea at logging into my box with root
[10:45] <Caspe1> been to those sites, done them all, and doesntwork, but ill try again
[10:45] <razzorz> its okay i am patient
[10:45] <pdxuser> evo: It got to the desktop (verrrry slowly), and there was an error, but I didn't write it down.  It was some file that displayed a particular style, if I remember at all correctly.
[10:45] <sethk> erisco, possibly.  Just extract from the archive, then use ls to see if the directories were created.  (extract to a different place, of course.)
[10:45] <pdxuser> evo: I'll try again and copy it all down.
[10:45] <evo_> pdxuser: okay
[10:45] <erisco> sethk, well go figure that one =\
[10:46] <jrib> r4nge: I would recommend not using passwords, just use ssh keys.  And you might also be interested in the denyhosts package
[10:46] <erisco> sethk, was working the whole time?!? gah :P
[10:46] <sethk> erisco, I ould have thought of that earlier
[10:46] <r4nge> jrib: well i dont have a root password set actually
[10:47] <r4nge> so i guess i was safe somewhat
[10:47] <razzorz> jrib: know of a good formating progy?
[10:47] <evo_> fdisk?
[10:47] <jrib> razzorz: formatting disks?
[10:47] <razzorz> ya..
[10:47] <erisco> sethk, well thanks! great to finally get on with this :P
[10:47] <razzorz> got a drive Ntfs
[10:47] <LjL> fdisk doesn't format.
[10:47] <razzorz> want to load tunz on it
[10:48] <razzorz> for windows sure
[10:48] <razzorz> not here
[10:48] <sethk> erisco, usually, when wheels are spinning, we overlook something simple.  not always, but frequently.
[10:48] <erisco> sethk, how true =\
[10:48] <evo_> you want to read that disk from windows and linux? format it to fat32
[10:48] <LjL> fdisk doesn't format even on windows (at least i think)
[10:48] <tj_> whats a easy to install osx like dock
[10:48] <razzorz> any thoughts ???
[10:49] <evo_> kiba-dock?
[10:49] <tj_> i have gdesklets and don't really like it
[10:49] <pandoras> guten Morgen
[10:49] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:49] <zelrikriando> hello
[10:49] <LjL> !de > pandoras    (pandoras, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:49] <pandoras> Habe wieder ein kleines Problem
[10:49] <zelrikriando> I need help
[10:49] <razzorz> just post your question
[10:49] <zelrikriando> FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[10:49] <tj_> i installed kiba-dock and it acts really wierd when i load it no icons and they just go everywhere
[10:50] <LjL> zelrikriando: try with modprobe instead of insmod - if that's what you did
[10:50] <evo_> tj_: try a more recent version, cvs maybe
[10:50] <zelrikriando> it is modprobe
[10:50] <jrib> razzorz: you can use gparted   I'd recommend ext3 if you want to use it from both windows and linux (linux can do ext2 using fs-driver.org)
[10:50] <j_> i have x11forwarding set to yes in sshd_config but application still report not being able connect to display.  it does work when connecting to my gentoo box, so i know the client is setup properlly.  any ideas?
[10:50] <sethk> zelrikriando, that driver was not compiled for that kernel
[10:50] <evo_> you mean windows can do ext2
[10:50] <zelrikriando> ?
[10:50] <tj_> ok i just used a howto that was in the forums
[10:50] <evo_> it will do ext2+ext3
[10:50] <razzorz> yes i think i will just go to windows and do it with Pmagic i guess
[10:51] <Heroin> can someone help me install and config a postfix server?
[10:51] <razzorz> figured i could do it here
[10:51] <zelrikriando> I am getting mad I am working on this issue since 8hours
[10:51] <jrib> razzorz: you can, I just told you how
[10:51] <ciaron> who makes the fastest usb pen drives?
[10:51] <razzorz> i am on it...
[10:51] <razzorz> ty
[10:51] <evo_> zelrikriando: your error message asked you to check 'dmesg' output, did you?
[10:51] <mh1> Hello? Can anyone here help me with some encoding issues?
[10:51] <zelrikriando> the output is HUGE
[10:51] <sethk> Heroin, what problem are you having?
[10:52] <jrib> mh1: maybe, but we'd need more info
[10:52] <evo_> try find the applicable bits, probably near the end of that output
[10:52] <mh1> jrib: thanks, I'll describe my problem:
[10:52] <warlock> I have a ftp account called "pub" (using pure-ftpd) - I was wondering how to make the dir /var/www/pub so people cannot delete files/edit files/or create dirs - just be able to upload files? anyone?
[10:52] <zelrikriando> the output do not fit on my screen
[10:53] <zelrikriando> I am so mad
[10:53] <zelrikriando> all of this to make a sound card work
[10:53] <evo_> warlock: chmod 555 /var/www/pub
[10:53] <sethk> zelrikriando, the output is useless.  I told you, that driver wasn't compiled for that kernel.
[10:53] <godtvisken> if i'm using vncviewer, what port should i forward to allow me to access my computer outside of my network?
[10:53] <mh1> jrib: I installed edgy with UTF-8 but I changed it to iso-8859-1 because sometimes I have to ssh machines with iso-8559-1 and I don't want those question marks
[10:53] <zelrikriando> so what should I do sethk?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, I'd try reinstalling the kernel, which should also reinstall all the modules.
[10:54] <hendaus> bruenig,  take your rest :)
[10:54] <Lucifel> godtvisken: 5900 by default
[10:54] <panfist> when using VMware server, at times it sends the mem usage of all my gui apps to 4GB(term window, firefox, xchat, etc) causing serious slowdown, is this normal?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, should get you a consistent set.
[10:54] <zelrikriando> what do you mean
[10:54] <sethk> panfist, yes.
[10:54] <zelrikriando> re install ubuntu ?
[10:54] <sethk> zelrikriando, no, just the kernel
[10:54] <mh1> jrib: however, once I changed to iso-8559, emacs got screwed up
[10:55] <zelrikriando> I dont understand
[10:55] <sethk> zelrikriando, you can find the package for the kernel and use apt-get or synaptic to install it.
[10:55] <panfist> sethk why would it cause the memory usage of apps other than itself to go up that high?
[10:55] <sethk> zelrikriando, reinstall, actually.  The exact package name depends on what version you are running.
[10:55] <mh1> jrib: more accurately, emacs does not accept dead keys anymore
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, it's poorly written.
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, IMHO, of course.
[10:55] <zelrikriando> how do I do that
[10:55] <sethk> panfist, to be fair, emulators are extremely difficult to program.
[10:56] <xethx> When i was trying to install Enemy Teritory i got this error /root/.setup26396: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:56] <xethx> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[10:56] <sethk> zelrikriando, something like:   apt-get --reinstall package-name
[10:56] <xethx> can anyone help me?
[10:56] <jrib> mh1: sorry, you should state the problem on one line and address the channel (I don't really know what is going on there)
[10:56] <zelrikriando> which package ?
[10:56] <atlas95> anyone can send me the script which display battery state when pressing the good function key on a laptop please?
[10:56] <sethk> xethx, the program needs the older version of gtk
[10:56] <sethk> zelrikriando, what version of ubuntu did you install?
[10:56] <xethx> sethk, is that a bad thing?
[10:56] <Heroin> sethk i dont know howto set it up :X
[10:56] <zelrikriando> the current stable version
[10:57] <zelrikriando> hold on
[10:57] <r4nge> after i've updated my "limits.conf" do i have to reboot server
[10:57] <sethk> xethx, no, it just means you have to install the older libraries.
[10:57] <Heroin> ive been trying for 5 hours
[10:57] <GoetzC> hola
[10:57] <sethk> xethx, they are available.
[10:57] <karl-erik> Hi. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10257/ Could really, really use help with this. Got a project tomorrow, and... Any help appreciated tons.
[10:57] <xethx> sethk, is it a tedious or hard process?
[10:57] <mh1> jrib: thanks
[10:57] <zelrikriando> I think it is 6.10
[10:58] <sethk> Heroin, there is a tool available that makes it easy to configure.  I'll look it up for you.  (getting senile, the name escapes me for a moment here)
[10:58] <sethk> xethx, no.  do you have synaptic installed?
[10:58] <zelrikriando> Edgy Eft 6.10 Oct 2006
[10:58] <sethk> zelrikriando, let me see what the package name is on my 6.1 box.
[10:58] <Heroin> sethk that would rock
[10:58] <xethx> sethk, yes
[10:59] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10405/
[10:59] <sethk> xethx, Heroin, I have to take a phone call.  If nobody else knows, I'll be back in a couple of minutes.  (sorry)
[10:59] <reaspired> anyone know how to access alsa mixer via termial.
[10:59] <mh1> How can I make emacs accept dead keys input in my edgy with iso-8559-1 encoding?
[10:59] <Knight_Lord> reaspired  alsamixer
[11:00] <cables> I just switched agpgart to NvAGP in my Xorg.conf to make suspend and hibernate work, but now my system is running hotter than it used to. Any ideas?
[11:00] <sethk> Heroin, webmin.  I think  they took it out of the repos for the latest ubuntu releases, but it's available.
[11:00] <robby> im having a problem booting to a desktop enviro. i just installed kde and set it as my default so i would boot into kubuntu and it shows the loading screen and then goes to a terminal style login and stays in terminal
[11:00] <robby> any idea how to fix it?
[11:01] <robby> im booting from disc at the moment
[11:01] <jrib> robby: you don't get to the login screen?
[11:01] <sethk> zelrikriando, linux-generic         is probably the package name you want.
[11:01] <mh1> How can I make emacs accept dead keys input in my edgy with iso-8559-1 encoding? Emacs already reads files with accents correctly. The problem is in the input. Dead keys are working correcly in the terminal too
[11:01] <Dreamxtreme> can any1 tell me why i get this every time i install something E: f-prot-installer: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:01] <robby> jrib: i dont get to the usual one i get to a terminal style one and it stays in terminal
[11:01] <robby> it never goes to a graphic mode
[11:02] <jrib> robby: check if gdm or xdm or kdm are running?
[11:02] <zelrikriando> so I do  : apt-get --reinstall linux-generic ?
[11:02] <robby> kdm runs
[11:02] <robby> but doesnt show anything
[11:02] <robby> ive tryed reloading it but i cant
[11:03] <emet> kill dash nine
[11:03] <sethk> zelrikriando, give that a try, yes.  use sudo:    sudo apt-get .....
[11:03] <jrib> robby: so what shows up when you go to ctrl-alt-f7 now?
[11:03] <zelrikriando> I am as root
[11:03] <robby> whats that do?
[11:03] <jrib> robby: switches you to where X normally runs, ctrl-alt-f1 should get you back
[11:03] <Dreamxtreme> any1 E: f-prot-installer: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:03] <Dreamxtreme> ???
[11:03] <robby> k thnx ill check it out
[11:03] <jrib> robby: wait
[11:03] <robby> k
[11:04] <Heroin> GREAT
[11:04] <Heroin> i just totally fucked up my server
[11:04] <zelrikriando> it doesnt work
[11:04] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:04] <jrib> robby: you'll also want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log if X is failing to start.  And try to stop kdm and then start it again and see if you get any errors:  sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop    and to start: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start
[11:04] <alka> i speak spanish
[11:04] <jrib> !es | alka
[11:04] <ubotu> alka: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:04] <jrib> !language | Heroin
[11:04] <ubotu> Heroin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <mauryli> ubuntu-it
[11:05] <zelrikriando> it says that linux-generic is not valid
[11:05] <robby> ok ill check that
[11:05] <robby> thnx
[11:05] <bigjohnto> anyone familiar with xming?
[11:05] <robby> ill brb if taht doesnt work
[11:05] <AlessandroD> I have a probtem connecting t a Windows computer via Ethernet cable DHCP
[11:05] <jrib> robby: be sure to post that log if you come back :)
[11:05] <willcodeforwork> is it possible to upgrade just *one* package? apt-get upgrade [packagename]  tries to update everything
[11:05] <zelrikriando> the operation linux-generic is not valid
[11:05] <jrib> willcodeforwork: apt-get install package
[11:05] <willcodeforwork> jrib: it's reinstalling the same version
[11:05] <apex`> can i do screenshot from console?
[11:05] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD can you be more specific?
[11:06] <zelrikriando> sethk?
[11:06] <sethk> zelrikriando, sorry, try:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic
[11:06] <jrib> willcodeforwork: what does 'apt-cache policy PACKAGE' show you?
[11:06] <pdxuser> When I start Ubuntu off a CD, I get this error as the desktop loads: "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.  The last error message was: Did not receive a reply."  It says this will affect aesthetics like themes and sounds, and that GNOME will try to restart the Settings Daemon next time.  This doesn't seem like a big deal, does it?  Could it be related at all to what's causing my computer to lock up when I try
[11:06] <sethk> zelrikriando, you need a command, and "linux-generic" is in the command position, so it's complaining.
[11:06] <Knight_Lord> apex` try screendump
[11:06] <jrib> pdxuser: you got cut off at "lock up when I try"
[11:06] <zelrikriando> ok
[11:06] <zelrikriando> done already Oo
[11:07] <willcodeforwork> jrib: http://pastie.caboo.se/46951
[11:07] <zelrikriando> is it normal that it went fast?
[11:07] <kane77> me > /dev/bed
[11:07] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:07] <jrib> willcodeforwork: seems like you have the latest version
[11:07] <willcodeforwork> hmm, it's not though
[11:07] <apex`> Knight_Lord, ok
[11:07] <jrib> !info imagemagick dapper
[11:07] <con-man> how do I send a global message to all users connected to my computer
[11:08] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:<IP_ADDRESS>-0.6ubuntu0.5 (dapper), package size 1577 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[11:08] <zelrikriando> and it doesnt fix my problem at all
[11:08] <con-man> anyone?
[11:08] <Askar> I cannot change my ubuntu main menu icon...please help!
[11:08] <willcodeforwork> trying to install 6.3.2 or later
[11:08] <sethk> zelrikriando, it should take a bit of time, at least a minute.
[11:08] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:08] <con-man> someone?
[11:08] <jrib> willcodeforwork: why do you believe it is not?
[11:08] <con-man> I forget the command
[11:09] <poningru> con-man: talkd
[11:09] <jrib> con-man: wall
[11:09] <poningru> or that
[11:09] <willcodeforwork> jrib: I have 6.3.1 on my laptop, and it has a feature that 6.2.4 does not
[11:09] <pfein_> So I just picked up a second card (USB), in addition to my laptop's built-in one.  How can I get amarok to use it?
[11:09] <con-man> how do I send a global message to all users connected to my computer
[11:09] <con-man> jrib: that doesnt really do anything
[11:09] <alka> how i can to use root mode, because i don't can after installing with cd
[11:09] <willcodeforwork> con-man: echo "test" | wall
[11:09] <mrpoundsign> ugh.  evolution-exchange is off by an hour (not updated for new DST in the Pacific timezone)
[11:09] <Nemes> Is there a command to append a line to an existing file?
[11:09] <aim1159> gwern_:      ??
[11:10] <jrib> willcodeforwork: do 'apt-cache policy imagemagick' on the laptop and find out where it is from.  Are they both dapper?
[11:10] <zelrikriando> it took 2sec
[11:10] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:10] <sethk> Nemes,   cat whatever >> filename
[11:10] <willcodeforwork> jrib: laptop is OS X, imagemagick compiled manually
[11:10] <erUSUL> Nemes: echo "line" >> file
[11:10] <Nemes> Thanks
[11:10] <sethk> Nemes, in general,  ">> filename"   means "add to filename"
[11:10] <shatrat> !sudo | alka You dont log in as root in ubuntu.
[11:10] <ubotu> alka You dont log in as root in ubuntu.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:10] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:10] <exs> does anyone know any bootable  ubuntu cd that incorperates the nvidia driver and beryl/compiz so that you can stick it in a computer (without installing) and have the beryl 3d/compiz experience straight away?
[11:10] <jrib> willcodeforwork: yes, you have the latest version in the repositories, you'll needs to compile manually if you don't want the version in the repositories (or check !backports)
[11:10] <Nemes> sethk, thank you very much
[11:11] <gwern_> aim1159 . (8
[11:11] <Askar> !backports
[11:11] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:11] <warlock> evo_
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD you shouldn't need to use dhclient in any special way
[11:11] <willcodeforwork> ugh, do they stop releasing packages for certain distros (i.e., dapper)?
[11:11] <evo_> warlock
[11:11] <con-man> ireally wish my sound would work
[11:11] <aim1159> gwern_: .   ?
[11:11] <warlock> now I can't upload files to the ftp eaither, you told me to chmod 555 /var/www/pub
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD why do you say it only works in one direction? What are you using for testing?
[11:11] <evo_> you want to upload files?
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD are you trying to ping the IP?
[11:11] <aim1159> gwern_:  ubuntu  ?
[11:11] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Just got back. good to see your system is working now :)
[11:11] <jrib> Askar: do you feel comfortable exploring gconf-editor to change your icon?  It's somewhere in /apps/panel...
[11:11] <cables> willcodeforwork, they backport security updates/bugfixes but not the whole new versions of software.
[11:11] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD do you have a DHCP server in the windows box?
[11:11] <evo_> but you dont want to be able to download?
[11:12] <warlock> Yes, but not edit/remove/create new folders in the dir /var/www/pub - just upload files and be able to download them
[11:12] <cchance> How do i lock the settings in firefox so that it stays on port 8080 so that no one will go past my internet filtering
[11:12] <willcodeforwork> weak
[11:12] <Askar> jrib: Yeah..tried that..still no sucess
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance what do you mean by locking the settings?
[11:12] <gwern_> aim1159
[11:12] <cchance> i mean so they cant be changed
[11:12] <aim1159> gwern_:
[11:12] <gwern_> aim1159  (8
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance I don't think you can restrict which port firefox accesses pages at
[11:12] <warlock> Any ideas evo_ ?
[11:12] <warlock> brb, gonna go grab a smoke mate
[11:12] <zelrikriando> maybe I should delete ubuntu and restart from scratch
[11:12] <Knight_Lord> cchance the syntax URL:port should always work
[11:12] <gwern_>  .       ((8
[11:13] <jrib> gwern_: english
[11:13] <Knight_Lord> cchance you can block at the firewall level though
[11:13] <cchance> well something has got to give. They keep getting around it and ive keept adding the proxie sites to the list i have 23 now
[11:13] <AlessandroD> trying to ping results in "Network unreachable" or something like that.. What I tried to say is that I dual boot, and with windows it worbs, so the problem isn't the physical layer
[11:13] <Knight_Lord> cchance what are you trying to do?
[11:13] <syntaxshadow> finally
[11:13] <syntaxshadow> i got in
[11:13] <bobblag> mauryli, vieni in ubuntu-it
[11:14] <syntaxshadow> hi everyone
[11:14] <cchance> Keep them from using any other port besides 8080 and the official stuff like ftp and pop
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance why don't you firewall the rest then?
[11:14] <cchance> so they always go through my filter
[11:14] <zelrikriando> HeLLO ?
[11:14] <syntaxshadow> hi
[11:14] <megafauna> hi, where is my xorg.config (graphics driver file) stored so I can back it up? /etc....
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance if you block firefox they will use konqueror
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance and then opera, and then lynx
[11:14] <Knight_Lord> cchance and so on
[11:14] <cchance> because the setup i did had me install other stuff and i dont know what to do
[11:14] <zelrikriando> sethk?
[11:15] <cchance> But that is restricted on the other accounts
[11:15] <willcodeforwork> jrib: any clues as to how the package was compiled? so I can try to get as close as possible?
[11:15] <evo_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <sethk> zelrikriando, hold on a moment, I'm on a call here.
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> wow alot of ppl need help
[11:15] <cchance> to download stuff via a synaptic or add/remove
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance so the other accounts don't have shell access?
[11:15] <zelrikriando> oh no O_O I lost my helper
[11:15] <cchance> no
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> I need help with a printer driver
[11:15] <AlessandroD> I have a Ubuntu/Windws box connected to a Windows box via an Ethernet cable. Network works on Win<->Win, but Ubu<->Win Does't work. I've been told to use dhclient . I've used it and it haven't worked. I can paste the output if needed...
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance I have doubts it's possible to do that
[11:15] <syntaxshadow> not sure if there is a que to wait in or what
[11:15] <Knight_Lord> cchance I would certainly not rely on it
[11:15] <jrib> willcodeforwork: apt-get source imagemagick    take a look at debian/rules
[11:15] <willcodeforwork> jrib: thanks
[11:15] <cchance> any way.
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance try installing IP tables
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance and build a nice firewall with fwbuilder
[11:16] <cchance> i ahve that
[11:16] <cchance> have*
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance it's quite easy to use
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance and works great
[11:16] <cchance> forget it
[11:16] <zelrikriando> *take the ticket #1454334 and wait*
[11:16] <Knight_Lord> cchance why is that?
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> so can anyone help out or what do i have to do to get someone to help me find a Dell all in one 922 printer driver
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> or an alternative
[11:16] <syntaxshadow> you ran him off knight lord
[11:17] <Knight_Lord> I tried my best
[11:17] <pdxmitch> Sorry, got logged off.  When I start Ubuntu off a CD on my old computer, I get an error saying the GNOME Settings Daemon couldn't start, that the last error was that there was no reply received, that this would effect things like themes and sounds, and that GNOME would try starting the Settings Daemon again next time.
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> what happened?
[11:17] <Checkka> is it possible to setup ubuntu as both a desktop and a server?
[11:17] <fisheye> hi
[11:17] <exs> does anyone know any bootable  ubuntu cd that incorperates the nvidia driver and beryl/compiz so that you can stick it in a computer (without installing) and have the beryl 3d/compiz experience straight away?
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> hi fisheye
[11:17] <fisheye> anyone from portugal ? :)
[11:17] <jrib> Askar: gconf-editor works here, just find the object that corresponds to the icon, check "use_custom_icon" and set a "custom_icon" path
[11:17] <pdxmitch> Could this be at all related to the fact that my old computer locks up after I click the install icon?
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> my ubuntu had an nvidia driver exs
[11:17] <syntaxshadow> but i dont  know about other
[11:17] <evo_> syntaxshadow: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Dell
[11:17] <pdxmitch> It waits, and waits, and waits, then it's locked up.
[11:18] <evo_> looks like it's not supported?
[11:18] <exs> syntaxshadow:  yeah, but I want the live cd to have it auto-run with beryl/compiz
[11:18] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow he wanted to prevent someone from accessing the internet by blocking firefox to a given port. not much i could do to change his mind
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> not sure then
[11:18] <Knight_Lord> fisheye yes
[11:18] <fisheye> im getting some sort of error when i try to confiugure the keyboard
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> ah
[11:18] <pdxmitch> In fact, all of Ubuntu runs absurdly slowly.  It takes several minutes for icons to start showing up.
[11:18] <syntaxshadow> well knight if someone isn't going to debate with an open mind dont wast your ascii
[11:19] <Bigmac> Feist has seemed to make all of my internet connections seem to stop working.
[11:19] <fisheye> it says erro wen activating or configuring XKB
[11:19] <AlessandroD> Knight falas portugus?
[11:19] <syntaxshadow> thanks for the link evo i am going check it out right now
[11:19] <syntaxshadow> brb
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> syntaxshadow i tried to explain that there's no such feature in firefox and that even if there was that would not be enough to stop them from using other browsers to access other ports
[11:19] <fisheye> s tugas
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> AlessandroD falo
[11:19] <AlessandroD> ajuda se eu explicar meu problema em PT?
[11:19] <Knight_Lord> Sim, but we better speak in english, or somewhere else
[11:19] <evo_> syntaxshadow: i'm afraid it's very bad news regarding your printer, but you're welcome ;)
[11:20] <AlessandroD> ok...
[11:21] <ante> can somebody tell me how i can remove some files from my desktop (or pc) when they are locked?
[11:21] <bruenig> ante, sudo rm them
[11:21] <ante> bruenig, what is that
[11:21] <Knight_Lord> ante if you have shell access you can usually just cd to the Desktop directory
[11:21] <Knight_Lord> ante have you ever used a shell? Do you know what it is?
[11:22] <bruenig> ante, applications>accessories>terminal and the command is sudo rm file (replace file with what it actually is)
[11:22] <ante> Knight_Lord, no
[11:22] <Knight_Lord> ante follow bruenig's instructions
[11:22] <maris> !samba
[11:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:22] <bruenig> ante, I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing, I guess that means ubuntu has really advanced, which is good.
[11:22] <eavawter> hello A/all
[11:22] <Slart> hmm.. is it worth the trouble to compile my own kernel? it seems the kernel boys are a couple of versions ahead of what ubuntu gives me
[11:22] <zelrikriando> I need an expert OO
[11:23] <bruenig> !kernel
[11:23] <syntaxshadow> man it has been a while since i was in a chat room