[00:07] <wxl> thanks for the fix
[00:07] <wxl> if i can get this dev container working, i'll attack some others
 How about ZFS?
 /me watches as the nukes explode
[02:18]  * guiverc notices new 23.10.1 version of lubuntu-default-settings :)  (on daily)
[02:20] <guiverc> Yahooo !!!!!  Thanks wxl , I see that picom message very often :)
[02:47] <tsimonq2> teward: qterm6> yes please. I think the problem is in widget
[03:24]  * guiverc hasn't see any picom messages on live testing... alas I also lost the pop-up that told me the live-boot was complete, ie. no picom crashed :)
[03:27] <tsimonq2> By the way, thanks for that kc2bez. :)
[03:47] <guiverc> wouldn't most lubuntu users want qterminal in the default quicklaunch?   or is that only old-fogies like me (who grew up on computers before GUIs were common)
[04:00] <guiverc> :)
 Of course. Happy to help when I can. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> By the way, thanks for that kc2bez. :))
[14:37] <wxl> @teward001 i left you a pm on irc. not sure you saw it
 havent loaded irc yet
 for the day :P
[15:09] <wxl> well it was last night but
[15:09] <wxl> tl;dr i added a key, please add it
 i read it.  in a meeting at the moment


[17:29] <harlowja> soooo smoser merge that stuff today right,lol
[20:08] <mgagne> so I tried latest PPA (version available last Friday) and now I'm not even sure if cloud-init runs at all. hostname stays the same, cloud-config aren't injected, network is not configured.
[20:59] <smoser> mgagne, hm..
[21:21] <smoser> hm..
[21:21] <smoser> http://pastebin.com/PCMX2RBP
[21:21] <smoser> paste.ubuntu.com seems dead. but that is my current changes that i have locally.
[21:21] <smoser> bzr push is failing too.
[21:40] <harlowja> u guys broke it all
[21:44] <mgagne> really, interfaces are going to be renamed? come on guys
[21:49] <harlowja> hmmm, whats up with that
[21:49] <mgagne> I thought we talked about it last week


[07:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:59] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:01] <brobostigon> o/
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> plans for today. walk to local market and have a rummage... avoid rain if possible
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> it's ireland, it won't be :-)
[09:28] <brobostigon> :)
[20:16] <daftykins> only just discovered that Channel 4 HD has disappeared from freesat, sheesh
[20:16] <daftykins> apparently they don't want to pay the rates
[20:20] <diddledan> yeah, sucky
[20:22] <diddledan> the question is if you can still tune them directly by knowing the service id or if their bskyb variants are encrypted
[20:23] <daftykins> hrmm
[20:23] <diddledan> it'll require faffing about though if it is still tunable
[20:24] <daftykins> indeed
[20:25] <daftykins> my ~2014 model samsung upstairs can be set to 'satellite' instead of 'freesat' and get all the channels that are unencrypted on sky, like you say - made me laugh
[20:25] <daftykins> there's no guide data though so they all get jumbled up in a nasty order
[20:25] <diddledan> yeah. there's no hand-holding when you use a raw dvb-s mode
[20:25] <ali1234> thats because of the way freesat is licensed
[20:26] <diddledan> ages back I got a dbv-s2 card for my pc. still haven't managed/bothered to get it set up properly because it's confusing me
[20:26] <daftykins> *nod* there are all kinds of ways of dumping the data to a flash drive then juggling it around but - i don't even use broadcast, i just tuned it in because i had the fun of laying and terminating fresh coax for the services in my place whilst i had access to the scaffolding
[20:27] <daftykins> diddledan: i've been tempted to play with a card in a PC for a backend to share out over the network to Kodi instances... but again, broadcast TV :D
[20:27] <daftykins> you can get those HDhomerun devices that pop freeview straight onto the network, too
[20:28] <diddledan> :-) apart from the requirement for Flash for some of them, it's easier to use the catchup services for bbc, itv and channel4
[20:28] <diddledan> although I suppose the islands are blocked from those
[20:29] <daftykins> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silicondust-HDHR5-2DT-HDHomeRun-CONNECT-Tuner/dp/B07BFNRGN9/
[20:29] <zmoylan-pi> send a drone to the mainland with a high def camera and watch someones tv there from home... :-P
[20:29] <daftykins> nah they're open afaik, but there's that login rubbish now for the BBC yeah?
[20:29] <diddledan> I've got an earlier model of those
[20:29] <diddledan> yup. gotta login to allow them "to tailor the service to you"
[20:30] <daftykins> :D
[20:30] <daftykins> it's a trap!
[20:30] <daftykins> you don't get many channels down here on freeview as the channels don't want to pay to cater for the Channel Islands
[20:31] <daftykins> i wonder if it's the same for the Scilly isles, been a while since i was in touch with some lads from down there
[20:31] <diddledan> https://media.giphy.com/media/srTYyZ1BjBtGU/giphy.gif
[20:31] <diddledan> I decided not to use Admiral thingy from Start Warts
[20:32] <daftykins> cunning, i don't even recognise that one
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> mad max i think
[20:32] <diddledan> mad max's furry road
[20:32] <daftykins> ah still never seen
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> well look at the conditions... no way to shave that road...
[20:33] <daftykins> hmm the HDHomerun would actually be a quite nice solution for my client, piping them TV down to Spain
[20:33] <daftykins> not sure which client devices would be appropriate though
[20:33] <daftykins> ideal if their TVs could tune in of course :>
[20:34] <daftykins> actually given the VPN is already in place to his London pad, any of the TV based apps would likely do it direct
[20:35] <daftykins> ooh there's a FireTV app allegedly?
[20:36] <daftykins> oh Plex too, that might be on some smart TVs
[20:37] <diddledan> plex'll record, too
[20:37] <diddledan> in fact that's it's primary raison d'etre
[20:42] <daftykins> almost wouldn't mind picking up one of the dual tuner models to have a play, just found the amazon app store app for the hdhomerun
[20:42] <daftykins> clients don't have a FireTV down in Spain, mind
[20:46] <daftykins> i think they're going to end up happy with just amazon prime and iplayer working over it
[20:48] <zmoylan-pi> pffft, they'll get a betamax player and like it! :-P
[20:49] <daftykins> :D
[20:49] <zmoylan-pi> will silence any hipsters who visit... :-D
[20:49] <daftykins> imagine the fun of combing the south of Spain trying to find betamax tapes with the added complications of the language barrier
[20:50] <daftykins> oh i dunno if i mentioned i used the google translate android app to translate their ISP's letter the other day, that was fun
[20:51] <zmoylan-pi> you'd put a rasp pi inside the betamax altering the outputted signal to overlay subtitles in the language you choose :-P
[21:30] <daftykins> with a clever script to detect the 9 o'clock news and pause the subs
[21:34] <zmoylan-pi> or flip the channel when keywords are mentioned... +++brexit+++ ::flip::
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> drop and give him 20... :-( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
[23:28] <daftykins> holy moly


[08:12] <andrease> I am trying to get hdmi audio to work with the radeon driver on 11.10, so fare without any luck
[08:12] <andrease> How can I figure out if this is a problem with the radeon driver or linux/alsa?
[08:13] <andrease> I have tried following the guide for debugging sound problems but every thing seems fine, except there is no sound
[08:13] <andrease> My Xorg log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/652938/
[11:36] <jfpowell> Hello, can anyone help me with a mouse related problem?
[11:37] <jfpowell> I have a logitech mx1000 and I am having very severe problems with ubuntu 11.04 (actually lubuntu 11.04) but the same issues exist in ubuntu 11.04 when I use the livecd


[01:53] <k_sze> What's the official web browser supposed to be in Kubuntu 20.04?
[01:54] <k_sze> I mean, for some reason, konqueror wasn't included automatically.
[01:54] <k_sze> s/included/installed/
[01:58] <k_sze> And what happened to kpart-webkit?
[02:00] <k_sze> Is it still possible to use konqueror in Kubuntu 20.04 _with the webkit engine_?
[02:39] <casper_> Is this working? Can you hear me?
[02:43] <NULL-M> Yes!
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
 Hey
 @ri5h46h  manjaro had 5.9 kernel . Does the same work on neon ?
 @thanveer787, no, KDE Neon uses 5.4 as far as I know
 @ri5h46h, yeah its 5.4. now. So the system must need support right
 @thanveer787, support ?
 @ri5h46h, like in android
 custom roms only support the kernel it comes with or the ones made from same source ig
 @thanveer787, sorry I am not getting you, please explain what do you mean by support here ?
[10:57] <yossarianuk> hi  - anyone know when the point release is out ?
[10:57] <yossarianuk> i.e 20.04.2 ?
 @ri5h46h, support means. considering neon as a system ( excluding the kernel which is a changable part)  .  So this system need a supported kernel. Not any latest kernel wuld work with the system. like that. I dont know iam right about linux. This how i understood when you said No.  when i asked whether 5.9 work on kde neon like in manjaro.
[12:04] <mparillo> yossarianuk: Not yet. They just re-spun the RC. But you can download it and help test.
[12:05] <mparillo> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/420/builds/226385/testcases
[12:12] <yossarianuk> mparillo: thanks
[12:27] <Jadyn> Hello
[12:27] <Jadyn> Anyone online?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 @thanveer787, you can change the kernel if you want on your own but it is not recommended to do so. Also 5.4 is a LTS kernel.
 @TsingKwai TsingKwai, yes Kubuntu is different from Debian and the main difference being Kubuntu contains newer software than Debian.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> and fewer permission restrictions
 @ri5h46h, oh
[16:14] <pavilion> Приветствую
[16:32] <pavilion_> Не подскажите может кто знает почему тап на тачпаде не работает?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> !ru | pavilion_
[18:29] <isomari> greetings, are there backports for plasma 5.20?
[18:38] <Maik> isomari: afaik not according to a quick google search which you could have done before asking. ;)
[20:01] <roman> hey
 Good Evening. Small problem with Kubuntu when trying to set up online accounts. I click on "add new account" I can add my email, password then hit enter. The problem then all I get is a solid white screen.
 Let me add, when clicking on add new account I then click Google. add email then password then it goes to the solid white screen. Is there away to fix this?
 1666
 Hi all! … How to upgrade KUBUNTU to latest LTS? … ` lsb_release -a` shows me `Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS … `However kernel is still 5.4: … ```$ uname -r … 5.4.0-65-generic```
 All upgrade commands from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu … update nothing
 @tantrido, Existing LTS installs will not get new major kernel versions automatically. This is deliberate, as doing so could have adverse consequences for servers and other critical machines. The admin of existing install needs to opt in to installing them:. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
 That is not clear: what to do how to upgrade? I do not see other 20.04.2 LTS packages are upgraded as well: … - drivers … - libre office … - etc … Release notes says update should be installed automatically however they are not


[00:34] <palhmbs> hey guys - is there anything on linux that will make a simple picture morphing animation?
[00:35] <palhmbs> I saw something called XMRM, but it's sooo old and not available anymore.....
[00:44] <highvoltage> I did an apt-cache search and there's xmorph, not sure how good it is though
[00:46] <palhmbs> highvoltage, sounds promising, I'll try anything - I'm trying to use Gimp morphing feature, but I've got warnings in the dev gimp edition - so I'll have to try the plain vanilla to see if it does what I want.
[00:46] <palhmbs> I could just build an gif animation with one layer fading-in
[06:15] <mi-key> hey everyone, i need some help as beginer in artwork
[07:20] <coz_> hey guys
[07:33] <coz_> hey all
[08:48] <coz_> so guys,, anything new?? :)
[08:58] <vish> coz_: hey.. i guess just us boring folks in here ;)
[08:59] <coz_> :)
[09:23] <coz_> well... at least at this point.. if i contribute any graphics I think I should go with debian ,, since there is no corporate influence or control on that side of things and eventually ,,,if not branded specifically "debian"  it might make it into ubuntu since they really dont want to stray too far from  "daddy" although,, in all honesty,, this is my "daily" thought :)
[09:34] <vish> coz_: good choice :)
[09:37] <coz_> vish,  unless you have a better idea ,, it seems i have been banging my head against the canonical "brick wall" since 2005..and much of that time was because of my own ignorance about  ubuntu / contributing  ,,,
[10:29] <thorwil> coz_: hmm, how can i tell you without seeming caustic ... there was not much banging to see
[10:30] <coz_> thorwil,  doesnt sound caustic from this end... as I said it was mainly my ingorance
[10:30] <thorwil> vish: did anything interesting happen on the list, lately?
[10:32] <vish> thorwil: nah, nothing.. just that one rAX seemed interested in doing pictograms
[10:32] <thorwil> coz_: sounds like me like complaining about the futility of things you didn't actually do, anyway. so why worry? what you will do now and in future, that's what to think about
[10:32]  * vish trying to find the new widget factory!!!
[10:32] <vish> where the hell did it go :s
[10:35] <vish> zniavre: hi.. where is the new widget factory you download from?
[10:36] <vish> coz_: just find something you are interested in doing.. dont bother if it amounts to anything, that way you dont get disappointed ;)
[10:36] <coz_> vish,  yes you are wise  AND evil :)
[10:36] <vish> ;)
[10:37] <vish> phew! yay! found it!!
[10:38] <vish> gah! not it!
[10:45] <vish> phew! *now* i found it ;p
[10:45] <vish> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/The+Unofficial+Widget+Factory+%28DEB%29?content=84209
[10:49] <vish>  <thorwil> vish: did anything interesting happen on the list, lately? !!!
[10:49] <vish> thorwil: hehe! what did you expect would happen, once you left everything will magically be all productive ;p
[10:50] <thorwil> vish: heh, i asked for *interesting*, not *positive* or even *productive*
[10:51] <vish> ha!
[10:51] <thorwil> gnah, kickstarter.com is limited to the USA, for project starters
[10:58] <thorwil> anyone here got experience with pledgie.com?
[11:07] <coz_> thorwil,  I know nothing about it
[11:39] <vish> thorwil: doctormo was recently looking into these kickstarter and similar sites.. try poking
[11:39] <vish> him


[03:38] <|PSU|> hi guys, just got Mythbuntu 12.04.3 installed this evening...finally ditched my old Mythdora install that was failing.  I selected the Hauppauge remote during the setup but it doesn't appear to be working.  is there anything else that I would need to do besides indicate which remote I have during the initial setup?
[10:19] <Shadow__X> |PSU|: have you check irw
[10:19] <Shadow__X> run irw in terminal and press buttons on the remote facing the ir receiver
[10:20] <Shadow__X> if you see the buttons show up in terminal then the remote was configured correctly
[12:14] <|PSU|> thanks Shadow__X...I will give that a try!
[12:15] <Shadow__X> ano problem. if that doesn't fix it check out mythbuntu control center
[12:15] <Shadow__X> or setup the config files yourself
[12:17] <|PSU|> ok, will do
[12:18] <|PSU|> btw, any reason why the latest Mythbuntu doesn't include a newer Myth release?
[13:31] <Shadow__X> |PSU|: what do you mean? like 13.10 instead of 12.04.3?
[14:03] <|PSU|> well, actually like why it includes MythTV 0.25 and not 0.26/0.27...I did some reading since I posted and it sounds as though creating / testing the ISO takes work, and myth can be easily updated from Mythbuntu-Control-Centre...
[14:03] <|PSU|> so i will try to upgrade from 0.25 to 0.27 tonight :)
[14:04] <Shadow__X> |PSU|: ah yeah thats probably it
[14:04] <Shadow__X> afaik .25 to .27 really wasnt bad
[14:04] <Shadow__X> infact i started with mythbuntu 8.04 and just keep upgrading
[14:08] <|PSU|> :)
[14:16] <Shadow__X> |PSU|: i am on the same install
[14:16] <Shadow__X> original install
[14:19] <|PSU|> very cool
[14:21] <|PSU|> so to upgrade, did you just use the Mythbuntu-Control-Centre and then selected "System Updates?"
[18:42] <stevieman> I just installed 12.04 and mythtv. When I try to setup the backend I get a prompt for my mythtv password. I've only used 2 passwords on this machine and I certainly didn't setup a password for myth. Is there a default password?
[18:44] <tgm4883_> stevieman, it's generated. You can find it in /etc/mythtv/config.xml
[18:49] <stevieman> tgm4883_: Thanks