[00:21] <graph_irssi> I just totally bricked my sound
[00:22] <graph_irssi> I was having issues with microphone input in Skype so i figured i would remove this piece of crap pulse audio >.>
[00:22] <graph_irssi> so I installed ossv4
[00:22] <graph_irssi> and well kmix and xine backend could not detected it okay...
[00:22] <graph_irssi> so crew it i purged and removed it
[00:23] <graph_irssi> i setup the linux sound system to use ALSA instead
[00:23] <graph_irssi> and figured I would use plain ALSa with dmix
[00:23] <graph_irssi> however this fail, and I got dummy controllers in kmix and nothing work
[00:23] <graph_irssi> so I figured I just revert back to pulse since at least pulse allowed me to liste to music
[00:24] <graph_irssi> so I put back in pulse, reconfiured my sound to use ALSA as input, reinstalled gstreamer setup all that stuff, removed the pulse blacklist stuff from my modprobe and reboot
[00:24] <graph_irssi> kmix popped up at login
[00:25] <graph_irssi> and all it can find is Dummy devices
[00:25] <graph_irssi> no /dev/snd <-- nothing
[00:25] <graph_irssi> lsmod | grep Audio found nothing
[00:25] <graph_irssi> aplay -l shows no sound cards
[00:25] <graph_irssi> and speaker-test does not work
[00:25] <graph_irssi> worse of all /dev/dsp does not exist either
[00:26] <moetunes> alsa prob isn't running
[00:27] <graph_irssi> moetunes: could it be something in my modprod ?
[00:27]  * graph_irssi never did a backup
[00:28] <moetunes> no idea
[00:28] <moetunes> lsmod | grep snd might tell
[00:28] <graph_irssi> nothing
[00:29] <moetunes> a reboot might be easiest
[00:29] <valorie> also, pauvucontrol might help
[00:29] <valorie> you should only have to use it once
[00:29] <graph_irssi> I've rebooted 10,000 times now
[00:30] <valorie> PA seems to get a bit confused sometimes
[00:30] <graph_irssi> pauvucontrol shows nothing I have it installed
[00:30] <valorie> poor thing
[00:30] <valorie> !
[00:30] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# lsof | grep pcm
[00:30] <graph_irssi> kded4     1808       root  mem       REG        8,1     17964    7348018 /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[00:30] <valorie> how about alsamixer in console?
[00:30] <valorie> M = muted
[00:31] <can> Hi everyone. New Kubuntu User Here...
[00:31] <graph_irssi> valorie:
[00:31] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# alsamixer
[00:31] <graph_irssi> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:32] <Scunizi> graph_irssi: try kmix
[00:33] <graph_irssi> okay so
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# alsa-utils restart * Shutting down ALSA...                                                                                [ OK ]  * Setting up ALSA...                                                                                [ OK ]
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio -k
[00:33] <graph_irssi> E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio
[00:33] <graph_irssi> W: main.c: This program is not
[00:33] <FloodBotK1> graph_irssi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <graph_irssi> well that did not work well..
[00:34] <Scunizi> graph_irssi: perhaps #kde
[00:35] <graph_irssi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535718/
[00:35] <graph_irssi> it's not kde's fault
[00:35] <graph_irssi> it's kubuntu's fault and it's useless pulseaudio junk >.>
[00:36] <graph_irssi> the dumbest idea since day one was to ship ubuntu with pulse
[00:36] <graph_irssi> there should be an option to opt out.
[00:36] <graph_irssi> pulseaudio + alsa have been giving me problems sice the day ubuntu introduced it.
[00:37] <valorie> i have the opposite experience
[00:37] <valorie> I usually have had problems until I installed PA
[00:38] <valorie> even back in my Mandrake days, sometimes I used PA
[00:41] <graph_irssi> well, needless to say do you have any idea what could be possibly wrong?
[00:58] <valorie> graph_irssi: sadly, no
[02:34] <squash_> Morning all, have a question if someone has a minute. I'm running 10.10 64 bit, and trying to use TrueCrypt(http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads). However after installing TrueCrypt, it crashes immediately after starting its GUI. Wondering if someone else can try it and see if it is only me.
[02:40] <collabra> squash_: ha,... 10.10 is unstable and not ready in my opinion for distribution,... LTS is a Long Term Service for a reason,... stability, security, and compatibility.
[02:41] <collabra> squash_: perhaps truecrypt isn't at this time compatible with 10.10
[02:42] <collabra> squash_: another option you might want to consider is downloading the source if it's available and compile truecrypt yourself... if it doesn't work then,... you're out of luck
[02:43] <collabra> not much i can say,... but i think there are alternatives to truecrypt,... not as integrated and seamless,.. but nonetheless available as an option.
[02:44] <collabra> i'd have to think about what exactly what they are,.. but i'm sure with a little searching,... you would find them.
[02:45] <collabra> squash_: also,... you might try encrypting your harddrive as an alternative,... i know there is no 'hidden' partitions,... but it'll secure your data.
[02:45] <collabra> squash_: that's all i got.
[02:45] <collabra> :)
[02:46] <collabra> !truecrypt
[03:04] <whacked> where did tab go under styles for changing workplace theme ?
[03:05] <Gulfstream> whacked, can you explain your question?
[03:06] <squash_> collabra: I compiled the source myself to the same result
[03:06] <squash_> collabra: really I'm hoping that someone will actually download it and try to run it and see if it exhibits the same behavior
[03:08] <whacked> ok system setting/application appearance , then on left there is 5 icons style/colors/icons/fonts/GTK appearance etc, anyway under style there use to be a tab to change workspace theme
[03:09] <whacked> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkn-TEj_10 ths video explain what i am attempting to find
[03:10] <whacked> the long bar at bottom where you have application launcher
[03:11] <whacked> ok
[03:26] <whacked> why why why pulse crap audio
[03:26] <collabra> squash_: hmmm,... sorry to hear that,... 10.10 must be just too different to be compatible,... i'd keep returning to the website every now and then to see if they've updated for 10.10
[03:27] <whacked> my m-audio card hates pulse audio
[03:27] <whacked> where did workspace themes go ?
[03:28] <whacked> first time with kubuntu
[03:28] <whacked> going back to opensuse
[03:29] <collabra> whacked: just a sec, there, whacked...
[03:29] <whacked> since it is impossible to remove puls audio with destrying system
[03:29] <whacked> oh
[03:29] <whacked> ok i can wait
[03:30] <whacked> tghis will be 4 install of an OS today\
[03:30] <collabra> whacked: before you spit on the distro... try LTS 10.04,... it's audio is alsa
[03:30] <collabra> whacked: and, yeah,... i hate pulse,...
[03:30] <whacked> but i ma correct it practcally immpossible to disable pulse audio right
[03:31] <collabra> whacked: i dunno,... I had more problems with 10.10 than just audio....
[03:31] <whacked> oh
[03:32] <whacked> opensuse wasawesome but the made changes recently to update process the keep destroying QT on me
[03:32] <collabra> so i use 10.04 LTS until squeeze goes stable.... then i'm switchin for the life of the distro.
[03:32] <whacked> but you cannot disable pulse audio
[03:32] <whacked> so for that reason i am not going to convert
[03:32] <collabra> pulse audio isn't default in 10.04 LTS,... alsa is.
[03:33] <whacked> yes
[03:33] <whacked> but you mentioned squeeze go stable
[03:33] <whacked> right
[03:34] <collabra> besides,.. 10.10 isn't stable or friendly in alot of ways,... It just wasn't ready for publishing.... I'm afraid.
[03:34] <whacked> it can be stable as a rock but if pulse audio still going to part of it
[03:34] <whacked> then i cant do it
[03:35] <whacked> if you try removing pulse it want to take whole gui with t
[03:35] <collabra> whacked: like i've said... more than the sound system is at fault with 10.10,.. from my experience...
[03:35] <whacked> ok back to open suse
[03:35] <collabra> whacked: I do not know why kde is going to pulse,...
[03:36] <collabra> whacked: pulse isn't ready,... it's a framework for potential,.. that's it.
[03:37] <valorie> that is NOT my experience
[03:37] <valorie> PA is usually useful
[03:37] <valorie> and 10.10 has been very stable
[03:37] <collabra> whacked: which is why i mourn ubuntu with this latest release,... i'll never get excited about any other releases other than a long term supported release.
[03:38] <collabra> valorie: your experience is irrelevant to me and makes little difference,... piss on 10.10
[03:38] <valorie> collabra: this channel is for help
[03:38] <valorie> you aren't being helpful
[03:38] <valorie> !language
[03:38] <valorie> go to offtopic if you want to complain
[03:39] <collabra> valorie: helpful,... help whacked,... you cant ,... 10.10 isn't ready,.. wasn't ready,... and will never touch my harddrive ever again.
[03:39] <valorie> ....
[03:39] <whacked> hi valorie
[03:39] <whacked> sure we were talking ealier tonight
[03:39] <whacked> about amarok
[03:39] <valorie> indeed
[03:39] <collabra> valorie: just the facts as i've experience them valorie...
[03:40] <whacked> well like i thought m-audio cards hate pulse audio\
[03:40] <valorie> then let's stick to facts
[03:40] <collabra> valorie: don't take it so hard,.. distros need to be scrutinized and laid bare for what they are,...
[03:40] <collabra> valorie: don't take it personally
[03:40] <valorie> whacked: that is why I recommended 10.04 rather than 10.10
[03:40] <whacked> and honestly it difficult for me , to figure out how to suspend service
[03:41] <collabra> valorie: as do i
[03:41] <valorie> if you can't use PA, then 10.10 isn't for your system
[03:41] <collabra> valorie: PA....?
[03:41] <valorie> pulseaudio
[03:41] <collabra> oh,.. pules.
[03:41] <collabra> yeah...
[03:42] <whacked> where i am going to be in future
[03:44] <collabra> whacked: pulse isn't complete yet.. it will be,.. just not in this release
[03:45] <whacked> which sound systems was a choice
[03:45] <collabra> whacked: scuse' ,.. ?
[03:45] <whacked> like in windows you install correct driver and go
[03:45] <collabra> whacked: compatible with pulse,.. you mean?
[03:46] <whacked> maybe
[03:46] <whacked> god i am so confused
[03:46] <collabra> whacked: :)
[03:47] <whacked> confused why opensuse is failing me\
[03:47] <collabra> whacked: do you mean what audio hardware is compatible with pulse audio,.. or,... ?
[03:47] <whacked> they must have made changes to update process
[03:47] <collabra> to opensuse...?
[03:47] <collabra> i'm confused too.
[03:47] <collabra> :)
[03:48] <whacked> sure it was nvidia driver that corrupted my sound issues in opensuse]
[03:48] <whacked> this time going to install one app at time
[03:48] <whacked> then try amarok until it fails\
[03:48] <collabra> whacked: ok,.. I'm really confused at the moment,.. but that's okay,...
[03:48] <whacked> i do hate rpm's
[03:49] <whacked> maybe 10.04 kbuntu is the way
[03:49] <collabra> yeah,.. debs rule the package scene, in my opinion.
[03:49] <whacked> i find packages break up easier in rpm's
[03:49] <whacked> just my thought
[03:49] <whacked> not that i am linux guru
[03:49] <collabra> whacked: i would totally suggest you try 10.04,... please,... for me,.. lol :)
[03:49] <whacked> more like noob
[03:50] <whacked> just for you
[03:50] <collabra> whacked: i think you will like the distro,..
[03:50] <whacked> you buying dinner
[03:50] <valorie> I feel 10.04 would work better
[03:50] <collabra> lol,.. sure.
[03:51] <whacked> noticed there is no workspace thems with 10.10
[03:51] <collabra> whacked: it's stable, compatible, secure, long term updates,.. and will be current for quite a while.
[03:51] <whacked> thought that was a step back
[03:51] <whacked> themes
[03:53] <collabra> whacked: tiny, tiny, step back,... for example,.. kde in 10.04 is version 4.2,... in 10.10 it's what,... 4.5 i think... minor significance and little trade off for what you gain.
[03:53] <whacked> downloading 10.04
[03:53] <collabra> whacked: latest does not mean greatest.
[03:53] <whacked> true
[03:54] <valorie> I'm not sure what you mean by themes
[03:54] <collabra> whacked: right on,... lemmy know how it goes... i should at least be available for an instant message to my nick,... if i'
[03:54] <valorie> but you can create custom workspaces
[03:54] <collabra> if i'm not here.
[03:54] <valorie> that is the strength of plasma desktop
[03:54] <whacked> under style there was a tab for changing themes
[03:55] <whacked> style/icon/coor/font/\
[03:55] <collabra> but i've gotta go for now,.. glad you've decided to give us another chance for your desktop of choice.... bye for now.
[03:55] <whacked> netbook suck for typing\
[03:55] <whacked> ok bye
[03:56] <whacked> i read that packaes break easier on rpm based, only reason for change really to deb
[03:56] <whacked> bed time
[03:56] <valorie> sleep well
[03:57] <whacked> cant belive i formatted pc 5 time in porcess today
[03:57] <whacked> so exciting
[03:57] <valorie> lol
[03:57] <valorie> that's one way to think of it.....
[04:31] <milo> hello. anyone knows how to fix this in pidgin: "https://omega.contacts.msn.com/"
[04:44] <bigbrovar> milo: if its the ssl issue, I think that has been fixed in the latest pidgin update. you might want go to www.pidgin.im on how u can install that on ubuntu
[04:45] <milo> bigbrovar: aah thanks let me try that
[05:08] <ubuntu> hi
[05:09] <ubuntu> i have a problem here, with somes files, on kubuntu, some characters appears not normally, like that f you can see, �
[05:10] <ubuntu> and when i try to open such a files with these characters in their names, it is'nt possible to open them
[05:11] <ubuntu> it's like they does'nt exist, i can't open them, and can't move them, i can do nothing
[05:11] <ubuntu> but if i am under Ubuntu (with gnome), it works
[05:12] <valorie> hmmm, sounds like you are missing a necessary font file or something
[05:12] <ubuntu> sorry for my english...
[05:12] <ubuntu> thanks valorie for responding, in reality, i have this problem from the 3.x versions of kde
[05:12] <ubuntu> and it is still here in the 4.xx versions
[05:12] <valorie> your english is fine, I just don't know what to do to fix it
[05:13] <valorie> I suggest asking in the kubuntuforums, and include the actual names of the files you are unable to open
[05:13] <valorie> http://www.kubuntuforums.net
[05:14] <valorie> mention how long the problem has existed, and that everything is fine in gnome
[05:14] <ubuntu> ok, thank you very much :)
[05:14] <valorie> this seems to be a time when most tech experts in teh channel are asleep, busy or away
[05:14] <valorie> unfortunately
[05:15] <ubuntu> do you know when i can find them available?
[05:16] <ubuntu> anyway, i'm going to ask in the kubuntuforums, as you suggested
[05:23] <youlun> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 10.10 with locale set to Chinese(Taiwan). When I press ctrl+space to type Chinese, I don't get a candidate list to select characters. There is no ibus icon in the tray. Does anyone have any idea what to do?
[05:24] <valorie> hmmm
[05:25] <valorie> I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that issue
[05:25] <valorie> however, I'll bet you can find someone in #ubuntu who is
[05:25] <youlun> I'll try there
[05:26] <valorie> good luck, youlun!
[05:26] <youlun> thanks! :)
[05:32] <youlun> No one answered me in #ubuntu. That channel is so spammy.
[05:34] <valorie> well, if you are willing to wait for an answer, the ubuntuforums are superb
[05:34] <valorie> !forum
[05:34] <valorie> be sure to search first, it is likely that an answer is already there for you
[05:34] <valorie> I've found answers there SO many times
[05:35] <valorie> even before I was using kubuntu, LOL
[05:35] <youlun> I've been searching for at least an hour already
[05:35] <valorie> :(
[05:35] <valorie> then be sure to post your question
[05:35] <youlun> Yeah, I will
[05:36] <frogonwheels> youlun: just going to try installing japanese on mine.
[05:36] <valorie> another excellent site is http://askubuntu.com/
[05:36] <youlun> frogonwheels: let me know how it goes :)
[05:37] <valorie> I don't see a way to search that one, however
[05:38] <youlun> valorie: looks like you can search by tags on askubuntu. I don't see much about ibus though
[05:39] <valorie> locales, perhaps?
[05:43] <zen> 10.04 + Nvidia. I changed to native resolution of 1152x864 in Nvidia X Server Settings and copy the xorg generated to /etc/X11. But iafter rebooting, it boots to terminal and the F8 terminal stuck at "Checking battery state .. [OK]". Now running in fail safe mode. Any idea what might be the exact problem?
[05:48] <zen_> The driver works perfectly fine with all effects, even works when the native resoltuion is applied, but when the settings are commited to xorg.conf and rebooted it just ends up to terminal
[05:48] <valorie> hmmm, I thought xorg.conf was deprecated?
[05:49] <zen_> What! I have no idea about this. deprected in favour of?
[05:49] <frogonwheels> zen_:  using xrandr  - and the xrandrtray or whatever it's called
[05:50] <frogonwheels> zen_: krandrtray
[05:50] <frogonwheels> zen_: if that's running on login, it should set your screen up how you want it.
[05:52] <zen_> frogonwheels: xrandr output shows max resolution of 024x768, but nvidia succefully applies 1152x864. Confused.
[05:52] <frogonwheels> zen_: oh. hmm.
[06:05] <youlun> I posted about my ibus problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329
[06:16] <zen> frogonwheels:  resolution issue: When resolution settings aer not correct during boot, does it just end up in terminal or show appropriate message? Because I tried commiting the nvidia generated xorg.conf for 1024x768. Even then it just hangs  to terminal.
[06:35] <valorie> youlun: there is one answer waiting for you!
[06:37] <youlun> thanks valorie! I just saw acid's post
[06:37] <valorie> hope that works for you -- it is a safe option, for sure
[06:37] <youlun> I think i'll relogin now since ibus still has two icons in the panel for the moment
[06:42] <youlun> So should I remove ibus before installing from the ppa?
[07:21] <olskolirc> hey how can i get html web page to load as desktop wallpaper on karmic please?
[07:51] <valorie> olskolirc: do you mean a homepage?
[07:51] <valorie> or do you want to copy the page and use that as a wallpaper?
[07:51] <valorie> if the latter, right-click and save the image
[07:52] <valorie> and then set that image as your wallpaper
[07:59] <wqapol_> I guess he meant setting a webpage in fullscreen mode stuck to desktop. Like active pages in windows.
[07:59] <wqapol_> *Active desktop
[08:05] <valorie> ah, it's been so many years since I used Windows
[09:49] <edferoci> hello everybody ! MY radeon 9250 is driving me crazy: it emits like a continuos beep !
[10:19] <davendizz> hi, just installed konversation. can anyone tell me how i access different channels please?
[10:25] <sresu> How can I crop an image? Image>Crop to selection option is not allowed here to be selected?
[10:26] <sresu> Got it
[10:33] <valorie> davendizz: type /join #newchannel
[10:33] <valorie> for each new chan you want to join
[10:34] <valorie> or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm
[10:34] <valorie> then select and join those which sound interesting
[10:34] <valorie> using /j works too, for short
[10:35] <valorie> oops, you missed my reply to you, davendizz
[10:35] <valorie> davendizz: type /join #newchannel
[10:35] <valorie> [02:33] <valorie> for each new chan you want to join
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> then select and join those which sound interesting
[10:35] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> using /j works too, for short
[10:36] <valorie> you need to start each command line with the /
[10:36] <valorie> silly floodbot
[10:56] <rethus> have the old known bug with /var/lib/NetworkManager/networkstate on kubuntu... but since last update "NetworkEnable=true" didn't work anymore
[10:58] <rethus> only set eth0 to auto connect in /etc/network/interfaces works, but this break some of my applications, which seems to check for network-connection over network-manager ?! Any Idea, what i could do?
[10:58] <zzzxzzz> hi
[10:58] <zzzxzzz> santana
[11:00] <zzzxzzz> #ubuntu
[11:06] <Walzmyn> zzzxzzz: I installed wicd - its not a perfect solution but it works
[11:06] <zzzxzzz> r u sure?
[11:07] <Walzmyn> what's not to be sure about, I couldn't get on the internet, now I can
[11:07] <Walzmyn> but the thing is kind of a pain, you can't connect to a wired and wireless network at the same time
[11:20] <hazamonzo_> Why might the "Add" button on the VPN tab in Network Manager be greyed out? http://imagebin.org/124647
[11:28] <zzzxzzz> interesting
[12:11] <wqapol> How do I install plasma themes in Kubuntu 10.04. I dont see themes dialog anywhere.
[13:07] <biberao> hi
[13:08] <thomas___> hi
[13:08] <thomas___> bin zum erstenmal hier
[13:08] <biberao> isnt kiosktool on kubuntu?
[13:09] <crissi> hello
[13:09] <thomas___> hi crissi
[13:10] <crissi> after some while running (some days) i lost some text in kde status dialogs
[13:10] <crissi> like kopete 'user is online'
[13:10] <crissi> i'm running kde 4.5.3 on 10.10
[13:11] <crissi> whats going wrong there?
[13:11] <crissi> and how i can get it back?
[13:12] <thomas___> sorry
[13:13] <thomas___> i can not english
[13:13] <crissi> for the problem with freezing ssh connections i found a workaround (add some options to users ssh_config) but it should be also interesting when this will be fixed
[13:13] <biberao> how to enable kiosk features on kubuntu?
[13:15] <Riddell> biberao: there's no kiosktool for KDE 4
[13:16] <biberao> Riddell: then how to enable kiosk?
[13:19] <biberao> byebye
[13:19] <biberao> thanks
[13:24] <rtK> Hi, I installed Ubuntu with KDE but I don't have sound anymore
[13:25] <rtK> I precise, I'm on a french distribution
[13:48] <rtK> is there anybody ?
[14:02] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: hello
[14:08] <rtK> hi phoenix_firebrd
[14:08] <rtK> Have you any solution ?
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: do you need help
[14:08] <Arran> Hello
[14:09] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes
[14:09] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what was your problem
[14:09] <rtK> I don't have sound anymore on Kubuntu 10.04
[14:10] <rtK> I installed Ubuntu and I wanted to try kde so I installed kde-desktop but there's no sound
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what is your soundcard
[14:10] <rtK> It seems to be a "HDA Nvidia (ALC1200)
[14:12] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i think ubuntu uses pulseaudio, you have to configure the kde applications to use pulseaudio
[14:12] <jussi> rtK: and youve checked in system settings -> multimedia?
[14:13] <Arran> I have a problem with my Printer: HP Photosmart D6160. All drivers are installed, I can see the HP Device Manager. When I click on Print Test Page, the printer reacts, but does produce just an empty sheet of paper. Has anybody any idea?
[14:13] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd What about phonon ?
[14:14] <Arran> This is my last issue for a complete changeover from Windows to Kubuntu. Under Unbuntu 09.10 the printer run successfully, as it does also under Windows XP.
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: like jussi said did you check the multitmedia settings
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: there you can find the phonon settings, see if your card is detected and test it
[14:15] <rtK> jussi, yeah I checked. In the french documentation is written to top "plaback/recording" in the list. I did it but without results
[14:16] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, I checked it but when I test it, there's no sound and no notification
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: do you have vlc player?
[14:17] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes, why ?
[14:17] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in that set the audio ouput device to pulseaudio and try playing something
[14:18] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, in multimedia settings ?
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: vlc
[14:19] <rtK> sorry I don't understand
[14:19] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: open vlc
[14:19] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the menu
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: tools->preferences
[14:20] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: audio
[14:20] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <rtK> an then
[14:20] <rtK> and*
[14:20] <FloodBotK1> rtK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: output module. choose pulse audio
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: save and restart vlc
[14:21] <rtK> ouch
[14:22] <rtK> it didn't change
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: play some music file and see if you can hear any thing
[14:22] <rtK> I'm on KDE, do not forget it
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: so?
[14:22] <rtK> I can't hear anything
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you open the system activity
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ctrl+esc
[14:23] <rtK> yes it open
[14:23] <rtK> it's
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you see the pulseaudio there
[14:24] <rtK> I can see it
[14:24] <rtK> yes
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: install the pulseaudio volume control
[14:25] <rtK> install ?
[14:26] <rtK> Where can i find it ?
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: kpackagekit
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: did you restart after the installation
[14:27] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, restart the OS ?
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[14:28] <rtK> yeah
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok
[14:28] <rtK> 2 weeks ago
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: oh
[14:29] <rtK> I can't find pulseaudio volume control on Kpackagedit
[14:29] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: search this in kpackagekit "pavucontrol". that is the pulseaudio volume control. install it
[14:30] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, it's installed
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: then open the app
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you new to linux?
[14:31] <rtK> vlc open
[14:31] <rtK> phoenixbrd, yes =S
[14:32] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd*
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK:open terminal. press alt+f2 and type terminal
[14:32] <rtK> Konsole ?
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[14:33] <rtK> terminal opened
[14:33] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: type pavucontrol and press enter
[14:33] <rtK> yeah
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: is the volumecontrol app opened?
[14:34] <rtK> yes it's open
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: goto configurations tab
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what is the profile selected?
[14:35] <hfc> hello
[14:35] <hfc> [  445.452051] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
[14:35] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, what to you call a profile ?
[14:36] <hfc> broadcom BLUETOOTH stick
[14:36] <rtK> mute ?
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i couldnt get you?
[14:36] <hfc> kubuntu 10.04
[14:37] <hfc> tried every suggestion about disabling EHCI_HCD and so on
[14:37] <hfc> any ideas?
[14:37] <hfc> please.. thanks
[14:38] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd soory I don't understand
[14:38] <rtK> sorry*
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: wait
[14:39] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can i remotely operate your desktop to try solving your problem?
[14:40] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: any problem?
[14:40] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, no problem
[14:41] <rtK> but how'll you proceed
[14:41] <rtK> ?
[14:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you install the teamviewer software. http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[14:42] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx?os=linux
[14:43] <jussi> rtK: phoenix_firebrd - we generally discourage this behaviour, (remote desktop) as its potentially very dangerous.
[14:43] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: he is a newbie, how can i do it , its very hard in normal way
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: he is a newbie, how can i do it , its very hard in normal way
[14:44] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: its one of the restrictions we have here on irc, you just have to keep asking questions and asking him to provide answers.
[14:45] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: where can i see the list of restictions in this irc
[14:45] <jussi> !guidelines | phoenix_firebrd
[14:46] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: thats the guidelines. however, operators are expected to also use common sense in giving advice to the users.
[14:46] <rtK> Do not get excited. There's no problem, if he can resolve my pb would it be wonderful.
[14:47] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: are you an operator?
[14:47] <jussi> rtK: just realise you are giving someone you dont know, full access to your computer and all the info on it.
[14:47] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: yes
[14:47] <rtK> hmmm
[14:48] <rtK> that' true
[14:48] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: thank you for pointing out the guidline.i will leave the decision to rtK
[14:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what jussi thinks is right.
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: but if you trust a person, there is nothing to worry about
[14:49] <rtK> no problem. You would not do anything that damages the computer, wouldn't you ?
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i promise
[14:50] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd I installed teamviewer
[14:50] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok
[14:50] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: also, vnc is installed by default iirc ;)
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: ya, i didnt try that, i will surly try that, after this one
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: please dont mistake me, i am trying to help rtK
[14:52] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: I understand, but its my job to make sure that people understand the risks before taking them.
[14:52] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: ya. i appreciate it
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: start teamviewer.3
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: start teamviewer
[14:53] <rtK> ok
[14:53] <rtK> it's running
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: dont say anything here
[14:54] <rtK> sorry ?
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: you have to mail me the id and password. my mail id is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: did you send it?
[14:58] <rtK> I sent it
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok, i am checking now
[15:14] <smartman> Всем привет, кто поможет из сорцев собрать deb пакет?
[15:21] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question. is it possible to turn off font smoothing in kate?
[15:21] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:32] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, I'm here
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: hi
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what happened?
[15:33] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, unfortunately ther's still no sound
[15:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok wait
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: open kmix
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: its the volume control
[15:36] <rtK> phoenix_brd it's open
[15:37] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: big dialog with menu?
[15:38] <rtK> ?? the window with big menu ? no
[15:38] <rtK> it's Kmix, it's not a gnome app
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: press the mixer button
[15:40] <rtK> volum icon in the bottom right of the screen ?
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[15:41] <rtK> mixer ?
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[15:41] <rtK> yes it's open
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the menu select configure master channel
[15:42] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yeah it's done
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you using laptop?
[15:43] <rtK> no
[15:44] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the mixer dialog menu  goto settings ->select channels
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: there can you find any things named pcm?
[15:45] <rtK> yes then ?
[15:45] <rtK> I found it
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: select it and press ok
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you see the pcm control now?
[15:46] <rtK> yes it's display
[15:46] <rtK> ed
[15:46] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: increase the pcm control fully
[15:47] <rtK> phoenix_brd it has always been inscresed fully
[15:48] <rtK> sorry I'm not very good at English
[15:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: run the command aplay in konsole and tell me what you get
[15:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: so what, i am not good at your language :)
[15:50] <rtK> sudo apt-get aplay ?
[15:50] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya do it
[15:51] <rtK> it's displayed "The operation aplay is not valid"
[15:52] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you getting the error when you run aplay?
[15:53] <rtK> I type "sudo apt-get aplay" and this message is displayed
[15:55] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: the command is sudo apt-get install aplay
[15:55] <rtK> ouch
[15:56] <rtK> it's displayed "impossible to find the package aplay"
[16:00] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: try sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[16:01] <rtK> it was already installed
[16:05] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: sorry for the delay
[16:05] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can we use the teamviewer again
[16:06] <rtK> phoenix_brd yes
[16:07] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: run the teamviewer and main me the id and pasword
[16:09] <rtK> I sent it
[16:22] <xHomicide``> I want to share a directory so windows PCs can access them.
[16:23] <xHomicide``> from within dolphin, looking at a directories properties, nothing happens when I click the "Configure File Sharing..." button
[17:17] <olskolirc> no valorie I meant using an actual web page as desktop wallpaper like the earlier linux version.
[17:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you there
[17:49] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes
[18:43] <Fuzznut> I seem to be having a problem with hearing audio from my headset with kubuntu 10.10. Any suggestions?
[18:51] <ashley_> hello all. I recently had my laptop switched from windows vista to kubuntu. I am totally unfamiliar with almost everything on my laptop. My concern is... is there built in virus/spyware protection? Or do I have to install something to my laptop?
[18:51] <marxjohnson> Fuzznut: try running pulseaudio device chooser, and making sure your headset is selected as the output device for the stream your listening to (or set as the fallback device)
[18:51] <marxjohnson> apt-get install padevchooser
[18:53] <marxjohnson> ashley_: There aren't really viruses or spyware for Kubuntu. If you want to be extra careful, or are going to be sending/sharing files with Windows machines, you can install KlamAV and do a regular scan
[18:56] <ashley_> thank you
[18:57] <marxjohnson> np
[19:08] <bernardo> hi
[19:08] <bernardo> I'm testing kubuntu 10.10. I was a Fedora and Arch user before.
[19:09] <bernardo> I noticed that kubuntu use *a lot* of memory, propably because it has more underlining processes and daemons
[19:09] <bernardo> is there a guide somewhere to strp off unwanted daemons from kunbuntu 10.10?
[19:10] <bernardo> or to optimize performance?
[19:14] <greenmang0> bernardo: http://guvnr.com/pc/ubuntu-disable-services/
[19:14] <bernardo> thanks
[19:25] <bernardo> not very useful...
[19:25] <bernardo> sorry
[19:51] <prosper__> does anyone know how to get the file manager to show hidden partition
[19:52] <moetunes> normally ctrl+h  does the trick
[19:53] <prosper__> i guess not for me
[19:53] <moetunes> check in the view menu for the key combo
[19:56] <prosper__> well it work for hidden file but not for the partition in the side panel
[19:58] <nerdy_kid> I just had a thought:  I wonder if akonadi could allow access of ubuntu one from kde....would be pretty cool imo
[20:16] <yoost> I read that you can use a KDE Theme Manager for kubuntu themes, is that installed by default?
[20:16] <moetunes> !themes
[20:17] <yoost> moetunes: ?
[20:18] <moetunes> I thought the bot link would have something more useful
[20:18] <moetunes> I don't know about a theme manager
[20:19] <yoost> moetunes: ok it doesn't seem to work I just saw the !themes command
[20:19] <moetunes> yoost:  you didn't see what ubottu said about where to get themes?
[20:20] <moetunes> not that it helps you
[20:20] <nerdy_kid> yoost: kgethotstuff?
[20:22] <nerdy_kid> go to systemsettings, workspace appearence, and hit "get new themes"
[20:22] <yoost> moetunes: nope I use chatzilla  on firefox since I'm on kubuntu and are barely finding my way around as it is
[20:24] <yoost> nerdy_kid: aah that's were it is :)
[20:25] <nerdy_kid> yoost: glad you found it :)  a whole big bunch of apps in KDE have "get new blahblah" integrated
[20:25] <nerdy_kid> window decorations, icons, plasma themes, game themes, etc
[20:26] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok so you get everything in when you need in that one file when you download the theme?
[20:28] <yoost> nerdy_kid: everything you need  when you download the theme?
[20:28] <nerdy_kid> yoost: currently there is no way to download a complete theme with one download.  That will probably change, but in the mean time you have to download everything seperately.  Everything means:  icons, kdm theme (login theme), mouse cursors, plasma (desktop) theme, color scheme and window decoration.
[20:28] <nerdy_kid> sucks, but no easy way around it currently
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> does that answer your question?
[20:30] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok , yeah that sucks, but I guess you just have to do it. So you have to go to application appearence and install colours and icons for the theme?
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> yoost: ^^
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> yeah
[20:31] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok at least I know how to do it then :)
[20:31] <nerdy_kid> many themes on the sites (and in the get hot new stuff) are not actually complete anyway.
[20:32] <yoost> nerdy_kid: btw do you know how to get a mac-inspired menu, you know the fish-eye look where the icons becomes bigger when you hoover them, I think I have seen themes like that, but I'm not sure if that is some special effect you have to do separately
[20:34] <nerdy_kid> yoost: sry man, I gtg maybe someone else can help you
[20:34] <yoost> ok
[20:35] <moetunes> you'll need a dock for that yoost
[20:35] <moetunes> !dock
[20:35] <moetunes> something like awn or docky
[20:35] <yoost> moetunes: ok thanks, I'll check it out :)
[20:44] <m477> what commend i can see hardware information ?
[20:45] <moetunes> sudo lshw should work
[20:46] <m477> moetunes: without sudo loggin is it possible ?
[20:46] <m477> it is preatty to much specific
[20:47] <moetunes> m477:  I am pretty sure you need sudo for lshw - you can try lspci and lsusb etc without sudo
[20:47] <m477> i need just roughly
[20:48] <moetunes> type  ls  and hit the tab button twice to see the diff ls options
[20:48] <m477> thx
[20:49] <m477> moetunes: but there isnt such commends on server where im logged
[20:49] <m477> via ssh
[20:50] <moetunes> what sort of server? ubuntu server?
[20:50] <m477> dunno rly
[20:51] <moetunes> I have those commands here through ssh
[20:51] <m477> but there isnt such
[20:52] <moetunes> you'll need to find out what the server is then
[20:53] <m477> doesnt exist any universal commend ? i just need to know basic
[20:54] <moetunes> those commands are universal for linux systems - if it is a windows server I would have no idea
[20:55] <m477> how check what typ server is it
[20:56] <moetunes> what does the   whoami   command return?
[20:56] <moetunes> if nothing then it is not a linux system
[20:59] <m477> returns my loggin name
[21:02] <moetunes> that's fine, does   cat /etc/issue   return anything?
[21:03] <m477> yea
[21:03] <m477> it is Scientific Linux
[21:04] <moetunes> you'll need to see if it has a chat channel or forum then
[21:04] <maco> there's also the generic "linux forums"
[21:04] <maco> or ##linux
[21:05] <maco> and lshw can be used without sudo
[21:05] <maco> it wont get quite as detailed, but itll give a bunch of ino
[21:05] <maco> *info
[21:05] <moetunes> not if it isn't installed... :)
[21:05] <m477> there isnt lshw
[21:05] <maco> oh
[21:10] <Fuzznut> is there any way to repair pulseaudio. I was messing around with a bunch of settings trying to get my headset and jacked it up
[21:11] <moetunes> you could try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio
[21:12] <Fuzznut> man getting this headset jack to work is going to take a miracle d:P
[21:13] <moetunes> I would check in alsamixer to make sure it isn't muted
[21:13] <Fuzznut> all it is displaying is dummy output as my audio source
[21:14] <moetunes> what does   amixer   return?
[21:14] <Fuzznut> mixer attach default error: no such file or directory
[21:14] <moetunes> heh
[21:14] <Fuzznut> d:P
[21:14] <moetunes> sounds like the card isn't found - do you know what it is?
[21:15] <moetunes> lspci | grep -i audio   will tell
[21:16] <Fuzznut> intel 82801I
[21:18] <moetunes> this link might help
[21:18] <moetunes> !intelhda
[21:18] <Fuzznut> cool will check it out
[21:29] <Fuzznut> guess I will have to resort to a reinstall then try messing with it again until I find a fix for the headset jack
[21:29] <Fuzznut> this has truely been a challenge
[21:30] <moetunes> Fuzznut:  you'll need to make sure alsa sees the card before trying too much
[21:30] <Fuzznut> what confuses the me is if I put the jack half way in the port while it was working the sound would come out of both speakers but I inserted fully the speakers go mute and no sound out of the jack
[21:31] <Fuzznut> my brain is tired hehe I hope you got that last statement
[21:31] <moetunes> yeah I understood it :)
[21:32] <atx> ok i got a weird question.. i need to back up my kubuntu system, with the current drivers intact, so i can do a reinstall of it -- have to use the wl driver for my wifi card and also have a different display driver
[21:33] <Fuzznut> I was using gnome forever and now kde uses pulseaudio by default and can't seem to switch to alsa
[21:33] <atx> How would i go about doing that?
[21:33] <Fuzznut> atx: to make a image of your install?
[21:34] <atx> yes Fuzznut a exact image of my install
[21:34] <Fuzznut> atx: you can use acronis true image
[21:34] <moetunes> !backup
[21:35] <moetunes> I use the dd command for that
[21:35] <atx> i basically need ot make an install image of my current system with its drivers.
[21:59] <Roey> Riddell:  hola.  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257522  <-- when will this update hit Kubuntu?
[21:59] <Roey> Riddell:  oh and thanks so much for keeping kubuntu running smoothly
[22:02] <sam__> hey, i need help
[22:02] <sam__> kde won't start
[22:03] <sam__> http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z is startkde's output
[22:03]  * Roey wish he could help
[22:04] <sam__> is anyone here?
[22:04] <Roey> no sure.  WHy don't you lurk with us and you'll get a response eventually?
[22:05]  * Roey is lurking himself
[22:05] <sam__> i kinda want to play with plasma and i have limited time on the interwebs
[22:05] <Roey> ahh
[22:05] <Roey> is it a kubuntu-specific thing?
[22:05] <sam__> yep
[22:05] <Roey> oh
[22:05] <Roey> ??shrug??
[22:05] <sam__> http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z
[22:05] <Roey> like I said before, wish I could help
[22:06] <sam__> kded commits seppuku instatntly
[22:06] <sam__> what packages does kde require to start up?
[22:06] <Roey> ah
[22:06] <Roey> see that kind of stuff is why I am migrating my home pc to windows
[22:06] <sam__> its the first problem i've had in three years >_>
[22:07] <Roey> and this bug[1] which has been fixed and backported but hasn't hit kubuntu debs yet
[22:07] <Roey> 1. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257522
[22:07] <sam__> @jwboles http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z
[22:07] <sam__> @jwboles can you hel me out?
[22:07] <sam__> help*
[22:07] <sam__> @roey no cigar
[22:07] <Roey> aye
[22:12] <sam__> found out how to fix it
[22:13] <sam__> i had to nuke /var/tmp/kdecache-sam
[22:15] <ashley_> If someone could PM me that would be greatly appreciated. I just had Kubuntu put on my laptop today so I am fresh with many questions. Please & TY
[22:16] <Roey> ashley_:  what kind of issues did you encounter? I'm not a dev but I can help out with some things
[22:20] <naickname> hi
[22:20] <xport> hi
[22:20] <xport> hi all
[22:21] <xport> what thing does exists for recovering Kubuntu 10.10 after installong Windows7....  Because Kubuntu booter was destroyed
[22:35] <shamimzaki> Hi, can I expect a minimal kde if I install kdebase-apps and kdebase-bin only ?
[22:48] <jmichaelx> it looks to me like the maintainners of the kubuntu ppa have effed up again
[22:49] <Roey> why?
[22:49] <Roey> dude, the maintainers of kubuntu lurk here, please show some modicum of respect
[22:50] <jmichaelx> i said the kubuntu ppa, 'dude'
[22:50] <jmichaelx> and a screwup is a screwup
[22:51] <jmichaelx> has anyone else here installed the most recent updated from the kubuntu ppa?
[22:51] <Roey> you also said 'maintainners', but who's counting ;)
[22:51] <Roey> sure
[22:51] <Roey> which part of it
[22:52] <Roey> what's the issue?
[22:52] <jmichaelx> Roey: the maintainers of the kubuntu ppa.... which is not entirely synonymous with the the maintainers of kubuntu.
[22:53] <Roey> who knows, why leave it to chance :) anyway, what's the issue?
[22:54] <jmichaelx> Roey: i do not know what you are talking about, and i don't think you do either
[22:54] <Roey> sorry, it looked to me like you were about to ask for help with something
[22:54] <Roey> jmichaelx:  cheer up ;)
[22:54] <Riddell> Roey: 4.5.4 is due to be released next week
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  YES, thanks
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  seriously, this stupid bug has been debilitating my experience for months now
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  check out the attached video there
[22:56] <jmichaelx> upon installed the most recent updates from the kubuntu ppa, desktop effects no longer work, and in system settings>desktop effects>all effects, there is nothing there
[22:56] <jmichaelx> upon installing*
[22:56] <Roey> aye
[22:56] <Roey> is the package installed?
[22:57] <Roey> as in, check to see if it is still installed or if it was held back
[22:57] <Roey> brb
[22:57] <jmichaelx> Roey: i will check. although nothing was mentioned as having been held back when i upgraded
[22:58] <Roey> also,
[22:58] <Roey> are you running with composite enabled?
[22:58] <jmichaelx> initially, i had been blaming the nvidia driver
[22:58] <Roey> what's your video card, and do your drivers for it work
[22:58] <Roey> ahh ok
[22:59] <Roey> but you did glxgears and saw it running fine?
[22:59] <Roey> or glxinfo rather
[23:00] <Roey> Riddell:  also, where's is there a fixed-bug list for the coming 4.5.4 release?
[23:00] <jmichaelx> Roey: glxgears / glxinfo are fine
[23:00] <jmichaelx> Roey: and even if they were not fine, i do not think it would explain the 'all effects' menu being absent
[23:01] <jmichaelx> Roey: unless some functionality there has changed
[23:02] <Roey> hrm ok, are there any bugs currently filed against desktop effects
[23:03] <Roey> I am searching but so far didn't find anything;
[23:03] <jmichaelx> Roey: no idea. desktop effected worked here without issue until i installed these updates a few minutes ago
[23:03] <Roey> brb... gotta eat
[23:03] <yofel> jmichaelx: can you check if there's something possibly related to it in ~/.xsession-errors?
[23:03] <jmichaelx> yofel: yes, i can check
[23:04] <Riddell> Roey: dunno, you'd need to ask upstream
[23:04] <Roey> aye
[23:05] <Roey> also, as a Scottish citizen, what do you think of this TSA kilt idea
[23:05] <maco> hahaha
[23:05] <maco> i think its not on topic here ;-)
[23:06] <Roey> ooh! cool way to get KDE on the news:  make a KDE-themed kilt and sing the American national anthem as you get frisked at the airport.
[23:06] <jmichaelx> yofel: this is what i have in .xsession-errors
[23:06] <jmichaelx> http://pastebin.com/0Dwtd0Ay
[23:06] <Roey> maco:  acknowledged
[23:06] <saprohyte> i am havign a problem getting the sources for aircrack-ng using apt-get.  I get the message E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory)
[23:06] <jmichaelx> Roey: hit a high not as junk gets grabbed
[23:06] <jmichaelx> note*
[23:07] <jmichaelx> btw, the TSA kilt idea is awesome... sorry for the OT
[23:07] <maco> not terribly appropriate...
[23:07] <maco> saprohyte: run an apt-get update first?
[23:07] <jmichaelx> terribly inappropriate
[23:07] <saprohyte> will try that now
[23:07] <yofel> "KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender" with nvidia, huh o.O?
[23:08] <saprohyte> : A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DB141E2302FDF932
[23:08] <yofel> jmichaelx: what's your exact graphics card? 'lspci | grep VGA' in konsole
[23:08] <saprohyte> I need to update the key?
[23:09] <maco> you need to add it to your keyring
[23:09] <Roey> jmichaelx:  haha :)
[23:09] <yofel> erm, shouldn't ubuntu-extras-keyring take care of the GPG key?
[23:09] <saprohyte> ok I'll search on how to do this. thanks
[23:09] <yofel> saprohyte: I'll give you a command, sec
[23:10] <Roey> btw, what exactly is the relationship between the PPA KDE maintainers and Kubuntu
[23:10] <jmichaelx> yofel: if it detects that, will 'all effects' likely be empty then?
[23:10] <maco> i think it should be:  sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 02FDF932
[23:10] <Roey> who exactly maintains PPA
[23:10] <yofel> saprohyte: maco was faster
[23:10] <jmichaelx> yofel: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[23:11] <saprohyte> completely worked
[23:11] <saprohyte> thanks yofel and maco
[23:11] <jmichaelx> Roey: if you were right , and i was wrong, i will be incensed
[23:12] <jmichaelx> ok, maybe not incensed
[23:12] <yofel> Roey: the kubuntu ppa is maintained by the kubuntu devs
[23:12] <Roey> got it
[23:12] <yofel> revcieves a bit less Q/A though
[23:12] <jmichaelx> yofel: i'd have slipped you a 20 to keep you from saying that
[23:13] <Roey> DAMN THIS PPA MAINTAINERS, WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE!!
[23:13] <Roey> ;)
[23:13] <maco> humans?
[23:13]  * jmichaelx concedes to Roey
[23:13]  * Roey gives jmichaelx a beer
[23:13]  * jmichaelx GLADLY drinks beer with gratitude
[23:13] <Roey> :) what do you drink.. I like local brews
[23:14] <jmichaelx> same here... we have some good one here in indiana
[23:14] <yofel> jmichaelx: just to make sure everythings alright there, please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:15] <jmichaelx> yofel: http://pastebin.com/5Z1Swsg8
[23:18] <yofel> ok, want a sledgehammer to hit kwin? I would do it. Now let's see...
[23:18] <yofel> can you go to desktop effects -> advanced and try to switch the compositing type? maybe check 'disable functionality checks'
[23:19] <jmichaelx> yofel: it will not let me disable functionality checks, i will try changing compositing type
[23:20] <jmichaelx> yofel: i did just successfully change to Xrender
[23:20] <yofel> and what happens if you change back?
[23:20] <jmichaelx> yofel: apparently a number or effects will not work under Xrender?
[23:21] <yofel> indeed, most effects need opengl
[23:21] <jmichaelx> yofel: upon trying to change back, i get "failed to activate desktop effects....."
[23:21] <yofel> duh..
[23:22] <jmichaelx> yofel: duh?
[23:22] <yofel> just me getting annoyed, since this doesn't make sense..
[23:23] <yofel> the nvidia driver is obviously working fine as the xorg.log shows o.O
[23:23] <jmichaelx> yofel: not that it makes any difference, but under Xrender i am now able to select 'disable functionality checks'. woth opengl, it would not let me do that
[23:23] <jmichaelx> with*
[23:24] <yofel> odd
[23:24] <jmichaelx> yofel: i think maybe you caught that i did not have this problem until i installed some packages from the kubuntu ppa a few minutes ago
[23:25] <jmichaelx> yofel: also, the 'all effects' menu is still empty
[23:26] <yofel> what I don't get is 'KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender. '
[23:26] <jmichaelx> yea
[23:27] <jmichaelx> yofel: there was also a kernel upgrade today, and the issue may be there.... but the empty 'all effects' menu lead me to thinking this was a KDE problem
[23:27] <jmichaelx> yofel: i should have upgraded the kernel first, then the KDE packages :-)
[23:27] <Roey> uh-oh, you see, now I'm glad I did not reboot
[23:28] <jmichaelx> Roey: you installed these same packages, perhaps, but have not rebooted?
[23:28] <Roey> lemme check my deb lines one sec
[23:28] <Roey> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu maverick main # disabled on upgrade to maverick disabled on upgrade to maverick
[23:28] <Roey> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main # disabled on upgrade to maverick disabled on upgrade to maverick
[23:28] <Roey> oh thank fucking god
[23:28] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Roey> my bad
[23:29] <Roey> (thank god I had left it commented out)
[23:29] <jmichaelx> Roey: have a modicum of respect, who knows what deities lurk in these channels!
[23:29] <jmichaelx> Roey: yea
[23:30] <jmichaelx> well, the is my workstation at my place of employment. i did the same upgrade at home on one machine, and not the other.... glad i didn't do both
[23:31] <Roey> heh
[23:31] <jmichaelx> although using Xrender, things are functional enough
[23:31] <Roey> wouldn't it be nice to have a 'roll way the f*** back' feature to recover a system from a bad upgrade?
[23:32] <jmichaelx> sudo apt-get roll-teh-back -F
[23:32] <yofel> I'm a bit out of ideas here, you could try the newer nvidia driver from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ maybe if that's the issues (but why would it...)
[23:33] <yofel> Roey: I think that's actually planned once btrfs get's stable, since it has internal snapshot support
[23:33] <jmichaelx> yofel: yeah, i thought about doing that, but i have my doubts that the problem lies there
[23:33] <Roey> yofel:  oh wonderful!
[23:33]  * jmichaelx is so looking forward to btrfs
[23:33] <yofel> for now you would have to use LVM to use snapshots
[23:35] <jmichaelx> we have a backup server here that is already running ubuntu+btrfs
[23:36] <Roey> is btrfs ready for the desktop?
[23:36] <Roey> performance-wise?
[23:36] <Roey> and stability-wise?
[23:36] <Roey> I keep seeing chanign statistics on Phoronix test
[23:36] <Roey> *tests
[23:36] <jmichaelx> ok, i may check back in after i get home.... i think i only upgraded the kernel on the one desktop, but i think it is still using KDE4.5.2, so maybe the situation will be different
[23:37] <yofel> Roey: from the other ubuntu testers that tried it in maverick I heard that it's rather slow, but that should probably improve in natty with 2.6.37/38
[23:37] <jmichaelx> Roey: it is not recommended for production.... but as test environment/backup environment, it's very usable
[23:38] <jmichaelx> thanks all for all the help
[23:41] <enzosat> buona sera a tutti
[23:43] <enzo_ch> sera
[23:43] <enzo_ch> ci sono italiani ?
[23:44] <Walzmyn> !it | enzo_ch
[23:57] <jmichaelx> yofel: ok, i am at home on a
[23:57] <jmichaelx> oops
[23:58] <jmichaelx> yofel: i am at home on a PC running kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.5.2, with the nvidia driver and all the latest updates, and things are fine


[00:22] <kevr> any sort of nice background email notification daemons around that work nicely with things like libnotify?
[00:24] <sarnold> kevr: what's the goal?
[00:26] <kevr> the goal is to get email notifications with a program that isn't running in the foreground.
[00:27] <sarnold> kevr: check out MAILPATH in the bash manpage, does that do what you like?
[00:29] <kevr> sarnold: looking for something that pairs up with libnotify, so i can get notifications regardless of what i'm using in the foreground.
[00:29] <sarnold> ahhh
[00:30] <kevr> i have found a few projects that mean to do it, but they've been broken, seem a bit outdated.
[00:30] <kevr> i wonder if the open source world could use a new project that achieves this.
[00:30] <kevr> i'd be down to write something.
[00:31] <sarnold> perhaps; xbuffy is still around but doesn't say anything about libnotify
[00:53] <barnex> what's up with the bot spam lol
[00:54] <sarnold> kids aren't in school, so they get bored..
[00:54] <barnex>  am I going to get hacked WITH WORDS xd
[00:54] <barnex> is this like a neural hack
[00:54] <barnex> nonsensical sentences getting into my brain? :D
[00:54] <leftyfb> !ot | barnex
[00:55] <barnex> yeah sorry, but this seems channel related
[00:55] <leftyfb> barnex: please bring your issue to #freenode
[00:55] <barnex> oh right
[00:55] <barnex> sorry again
[01:09] <FiremanEd> Thanks -glguy_ done
[01:22] <MarkB2> I'm trying to use git to clone a github repository.  While the repository is visible with a web browser, git returns a "fatal, repository not found".  It's off-topic... but could someone give me a hint as to the proper "care and feeding" of git in cloning a repository?
[01:23] <sarnold> MarkB2: click the little green 'code' dropdown on the upper-right-ish corner of the window, and select one of the urls from that
[01:24] <MarkB2> sarnold: That's the pull-down I see with other repositories.  This one doesn't have that pull-down.. or maybe I'm not seeing it?  One moment.
[01:24] <MarkB2> sarnold:  Here is the URL to that repository: https://github.com/eaglezhao/tracnghiemweb/tree/master/TestKhoaLuan/DirectShowTVSample
[01:25] <MarkB2> Maybe I'm giving git(1) the wrong URL?  is the "tree/master/" portion not needed?
[01:25] <sarnold> MarkB2: click the big blue 'tracnghiemweb' link in the upper left, and then the green "Code" dropdown will show up
[01:28] <MarkB2> sarnold: Thank you.  Thank you a LOT... I feared I would be up all night manually copying that tree, file by file.
[01:29] <MarkB2> I recently picked up a text on DirectShow.  It's old, publish date is 2001.  On the cover it says, "Get the companion files by visiting " and it gives a publisher's web site.
[01:29] <MarkB2> But that publisher seems long gone along with the companion files.  Spent about two weeks searching the web and finally posted a request to a DirectShow forum.
[01:30] <MarkB2> That github URL was the response.
[01:31] <sarnold> MarkB2: heh, I've wasted *so much* time trying to git clone github urls :) I hoped it was going to be that, a problem I'd already figured out once before ;)
[01:31] <sarnold> MarkB2: funny thing about those sites, isn't it? :(
[01:32] <sarnold> if a movie studio can keep this up for ~25 years .. https://www.spacejam.com/ .. why can't a publisher keep their thing up?
[01:32] <MarkB2> I put the URL into git(1) with:   $ git clone that_url   and got the 'fatal, can't find' message.  f_r_u_s_t_r_a_t_i_n_g .
[01:34] <MarkB2> I don't think wordware.com exists.  Or, if it was taken over, there's no link.  Even spelunked archive.org ... but not knowing the name of the zip file doesn't help.
[01:43] <MarkB2> sarnold: gitbash under Windows was able to do it.  Geeze.  What a maze.
[01:44] <MarkB2> But... thank you again for your time.  I'd have never found the "click the big blue..." solution.
[01:45] <sarnold> MarkB2: oh interesting, I wish regular git had that kind of intelligence to it :)
[01:45] <sarnold> it would have saved me a ton of time..
[02:22] <mattfly> firefox keeps saying "installing components for this page" for netflix and disneyplus sites. Youtube runs nice though. I installed "sudo apt install libavcodec-extra
[02:22] <mattfly> sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:22] <mattfly> chrome and edge works
[02:23] <mattfly> ubuntu 20.04 lts
[02:24] <mattfly> on safe mode I have the same problem still
[02:24] <mattfly> so its not extensions
[02:53] <timothyp> Hi, I have a working DSL connection on Windows (computer directly connected to modem because router broke down yetserday) but I don't like Windows so I am trying on ubuntu
[02:53] <timothyp> I am using pppoeconf and entering the details
[02:53] <timothyp> but at the end of the procedure ... it does nothing
[02:53] <timothyp> and there seems to be no UI option in ubuntu to make a DSL connection either
[02:54] <timothyp> any suggestions?
[02:54] <timothyp> 20.10
[02:55] <timothyp> if I `pon dsl-provider` all it does is output `Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded`
[02:56] <sarnold> hmm, I'd have guessed most people would use network-manager to configure their pppoe network thing these days
[02:57] <timothyp> but network-manager does not show anything for DSL
[02:57] <timothyp> only VPN
[02:57] <sarnold> oh
[02:57] <timothyp> that is the frustrating part online everybody is like just add a connection in the network-manager
[02:57] <timothyp> but it's not there
[02:57] <timothyp> something so fundamental
[02:58] <timothyp> I open settings / network then I see "wired" "vpn" "network proxy"
[02:58] <timothyp> in VPN I can add PPTP
[02:59] <timothyp> which asks me to enter a gateway I am going to guess it expects the modem ip which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:59] <timothyp> it has a password field which you cannot type anything into
[02:59] <sarnold> zounds, this answer suggests you've got to use nm-cli to *create* the connection, and then you can edit it https://askubuntu.com/a/978072/33812
[03:07] <timothyp> I got disconnected :%
[03:08] <timothyp> somebody mentioned nm-cli
[03:10] <sarnold> timothyp: here's the link https://askubuntu.com/a/978072/33812
[03:10] <timothyp> just tried it
[03:10] <timothyp> after I finish nothing happens :%
[03:11] <sarnold> within the NM gui thing, there's no new panel? :(
[03:15] <timothyp> there is a new panel
[03:15] <timothyp> but it does not do much
[03:16] <timothyp> and if I dare to touch the wired connection in the UI the new panel vanishes
[03:17] <phiona> can i repartition and reformat my drive from the install itself? i dont need this install now. i have windows and i would like to reformat this drive to install another distro or another ubuntu..
[03:17] <sarnold> phiona: sure, run fdisk or cfdisk or whatever you like
[03:20] <phiona> sarnold: what should i back up?
[03:21] <rdr> when I had DSL the modem just provided an ip address to the computer or router connected, maybe this was something different though
[03:21] <timothyp> that is when the router creates the connection for you
[03:21] <timothyp> in my case the router is configured to only act as a model
[03:22] <timothyp> modem*
[03:22] <timothyp> because I don't trust the provider
[03:22] <timothyp> so I had my own router (unifi security gateway) behind it
[03:22] <timothyp> but that one broke down yesterday
[03:22] <timothyp> so I have to wait a few days to get a new one
[03:22] <rdr> ah that sucks
[03:22] <sarnold> phiona: whatever it is you want to keep?
[03:23] <timothyp> I am a fultime ubuntu user, just never had to set up dsl before... and surprised how much trouble it gives in 2021
[03:23] <timothyp> such an essential thing
[03:23] <timothyp> then I tested with a windows device and it just worked
[03:24] <timothyp> now I got my computer connected with 4g
[03:24] <timothyp> the only good thing is that ther eare no data limits on the 4g connection
[03:29] <phiona> sarnold: can we do the reformat with gparted?
[03:30] <sarnold> timothyp: yeah, I'm surprised too :( I guess most folks have external routers these days
[03:30] <timothyp> true
[03:30] <sarnold> phiona: I don't know, probably not; I only ever make new filesystems by hand
[03:32] <timothyp> I will probably just get a cheap router in the shop downstairs, like 15 euro or something for a xiaomi one for a few days
[03:32] <timothyp> wasting more time on this issue is gonna cost me more
[03:32] <chovy> anyone know how to fix this error?
[03:32] <chovy> http://pastie.org/p/47vDOcgVSxHKkr4to5S1bx
[03:33] <phiona> sarnold: is there a tutorial on fdisk or cfdisk that you follow?
[03:33] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools
[03:33] <sarnold> phiona: no, I just read the manpages when I need them; thankfully that's pretty rare occurance :)
[03:34] <chovy> sarnold: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:34] <chovy> wont' let me do it
[03:35] <chovy> the fix broken doesn't work either
[03:35] <sarnold> chovy: keep adding packages to the apt purge line until you either (a) delete everything from that constellation of packages or (b) get asked to delete something scary
[03:35] <timothyp> hmm there is an nm-connection-editor command
[03:37] <chovy> sarnold: what do you mean?
[03:37] <sarnold> chovy: usually apt will tell you *why* you can't uninstall a package
[03:38] <sarnold> chovy: it'll normally keep adding a new package ot the list of "but this package requires that package" output
[03:40] <chovy>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/bsondump', which is also in package mongo-tools 3.6.3-0ubuntu1
[03:40] <chovy> i can't remove it and i can't fix it
[03:40] <sarnold> chovy: pastebin the error you get with apt-get purge mongo-tools ?
[03:41] <chovy> sarnold: http://pastie.org/p/2wcGxdIKJkxpUKlfADQp8u
[03:42] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools mongodb-org-tools
[03:42] <chovy> http://pastie.org/p/6qERa7OuPgL23ne86oqIel
[03:42] <chovy> sarnold:
[03:43] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools mongodb-org-tools mongodb-org
[03:43] <phiona> sarnold: ok, so how do we install a new linux installation on a PC with 2 hdd? should we choose dual boot or the other one which says install the os as the the only os?
[03:44] <sarnold> phiona: depends on the other linux os, most have an installer you can boot into, that'd work pretty okay. some require you to do the installation from an already-working system -- in that case, it's best to follow whatever guide they've published
[03:44] <chovy> sarnold: that worked. thanks
[03:44] <sarnold> chovy: sweet :) now you should be good to install whichever package you actually wanted
[03:46] <oerheks> .. and a fresh kernel update
[03:48] <sarnold> man it feels like we just did that
[04:03] <chovy> sarnold: yup.
[04:03] <chovy> sarnold: i think default already had old version
[04:04] <phiona> sarnold: im installing zorin or mint or another ubuntu.
[04:16] <phiona> sarnold: can i show you how my hdd looks like and tell me what i should do? i want to remove all partitions and then reformat so i have a one whole 500gb  disk to use for linux.
[04:17] <oerheks> 'use entire disk' is an option during install, no?
[04:19] <oerheks> = step 5 https://www.linuxtechi.com/ubuntu-20-04-lts-installation-steps-screenshots/
[04:19] <phiona> oerheks: you talking to me?
[04:20] <oerheks> phiona, yes
[04:20] <oerheks> but if you are installing zorin or mint, seek their channel
[04:24] <phiona> oerheks: are you telling me not to use the entire hard disk for a linux install?
[04:24] <oerheks> ..?
[04:25] <oerheks> read back, never wrote that..
[04:34] <phiona> so there are now 6 partitions to create? /boot = 1 GB (ext4 file system)
[04:34] <phiona> Swap = 2 GB (ext4 file system) before i only created 3. root,  home and swap.
[04:37] <oerheks> ubuntu creates standard 1 partition. and uses swap-file instead of partition. but if you want to do it manually, you can
[04:37] <Lvl4Sword> If you're using an SSD you'll want to disable the swap as well.
[04:38] <oerheks> Lvl4Sword, no need for that, white spots are no longer an issue
[04:39] <Lvl4Sword> Huh, interesting. What's changed to remedy that?
[04:41] <oerheks> better hardware?
[04:42] <Lvl4Sword> Do you have a source for this? I was under the impression that swap had to be disabled.
[04:46] <oerheks> Lvl4Sword, no, only on older traditional hdd's one could reduce swappiness, due to longer access times https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[04:47] <oerheks> also, my experience learned that ssd and no swap was a thing 10 years ago,
[05:02] <Vegratin> is it possible to install a persistent Linux on a USB stick while encrypting a partition inside it with LUKS?
[05:03] <oerheks> what do you mean with persistent, the install iso with some space to write to?
[05:04] <Vegratin> yes, well, I've only created Live USB Ubuntus with persistent storage before
[05:05] <Vegratin> and the software I used for these didn't let me manage the partitions created, so I was wondering if I can just do a "normal" install from one USB to another, using the installer
[05:07] <oerheks>  mkusb can do that, https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html
[05:08] <oerheks> but the encrypted folder, i think you need to set that up manually
[05:08] <oerheks> but indeed, i would do an install from usb to 2nd usb.
[05:10] <Vegratin> I will give a look into mkusb, looks powerful as a tool, but I will also try simply installing from one USB to the second
[05:10] <Vegratin> thanks for the help
[05:11] <oerheks> have fun!
[05:29] <mw_> is it possible to re-wrap a manpage from inside the pager?
[05:43] <redcheckers> hi, i got an error when trying to upgrade from inside the desktop enviroment when it gave me a popup letting me know an upgrade was available, and i clicked the button to do it now, is there a way to retry manually?
[07:37] <newbsduser> hello, I can login to skype, but my contact list doesnt appear, /var/log/syslog says: Skype1, Impossible to lookup icon for 'Skype1_6-panel' in path /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.FLEy54 \nFeb 24 10:33:25 ayse-Latitude-5410<EMAIL_ADDRESS>unable to update icon for Skype1
[07:37] <newbsduser> , how can I solve it?
[07:37] <newbsduser> I am using ubuntu 20.04
[07:42] <oerheks> skype is prop software blob, maybe there is something in;  softwarecenter > installed > skype > permissions ?
[07:43] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/gallery/3eNWpj1
[08:14] <newbsduser> oerheks, it is not a permission issue.
[08:15] <oerheks> newbsduser, try to reinstall, else contact the author
[08:16] <jwhitmore> Hello all, on U20.04 installed tiger package for tripwire. Executed 'tripwire --init' and got a get fault. :(
[08:30] <mi6x3m> hey friends, running ubuntu mate here, I have another partition on my drive which is always shown in the file manager. I have an fstab entry with /mnt bind point
[08:30] <mi6x3m> how do I prevent the partition from being shown and the user to be able to mount it
[08:31] <mi6x3m> is there a systemd unit predefined?
[08:43] <mi6x3m> nevermind i fixed it my fstab entry had an error
[08:43] <mi6x3m> thanks everybody!
[09:41] <Nitrousoxide> I installed an irc bouncer daemon (specifically quasselcore) and systemctl status reports this error https://termbin.com/s5dr . Does anyone know how to fix that?
[09:43] <rory> Nitrousoxide, edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf - under [Journal] section change Storage to persistent (not auto)
[09:43] <rory> then reboot
[09:44] <Nitrousoxide> Out of curiosity, why would that be the issue?
[09:44] <Nitrousoxide> rory: ^
[09:47] <mw_> a warning is not an error
[09:48] <mw_> if it runs, i'd suggest just leave it as it is
[09:49] <mw_> rebooting sounds like overkill for such a nuisance
[09:49] <Nitrousoxide> Alright.
[12:04] <andystar> I am having trouble trying out ubuntu on usb.  I am getting the boot menu from the usb.  Does that mean uefi is not an issue?
[12:05] <summonner> andystar, it should work fine in either UEFI or BIOS mode as long as you're using a correctly-set up USB stick. Did you use Rufus?
[12:07] <summonner> CMOS settings->Boot capabilities (BIOS boot only, BIOS & UEFI boot, UEFI only boot) for the USB interface
[12:07] <andystar> I used Rufus, and I tried with the regular settings.  I kept getting the error no ahci driver.
[12:08] <summonner> how do you have your HDD's set up in your BIOS? Are they RAID or AHCI or the old way?
[12:08] <andystar> I tried switching to IDE, and still got the message.
[12:09] <andystar> They are set up as AHCI right now.
[12:09] <summonner> keep them in AHCI
[12:09] <summonner> are you going to erase the drive?
[12:09] <andystar> No.
[12:10] <andystar> I wanted a dual boot system.
[12:10] <summonner> you have windows on their currently?
[12:10] <summonner> *there
[12:10] <andystar> Yes.
[12:10] <andystar> It is Windows 8.
[12:10] <summonner> when you make the USB in Rufus, set it to GPT/UEFI mode and try that
[12:11] <andystar> I tried that more recently.
[12:11] <summonner> Do you have a mix of USB2/3 ports?
[12:11] <andystar> It gave me the same message.
[12:11] <andystar> Is there a color difference?
[12:11] <summonner> blue is USB3
[12:12] <andystar> They are both blue in the front of the computer.
[12:13] <chev> I am getting spammed to death and i can only assume it’s because im in this room
[12:13] <summonner> if you've already tried  GPT/UEFI in the USB3 slot, then try MBR/BIOS
[12:14] <andystar> In the back there are two more blue ones, but I am using the front usb slots.
[12:14] <summonner> chev, if it's direct PMs, set your user as +R   /mode chev +R
[12:14] <andystar> It worked once with the MBR setting, which I tried first.
[12:14] <chev> Ok
[12:15] <summonner> andystar check your settings in your bios too, just to make sure booting is enabled on UEFI on the USB drive. that can also be another cause
[12:15] <andystar> I fiddled with the "enable EHCI handoff setting," but I don't think I changed other settings.
[12:17] <andystar> The boot can either choose to look at the USB as a regular usb or a uefi usb.
[12:20] <andystar> When I try the drive as a regular usb it starts off with a graphical symbol, but I don't think it reaches the usb menu.
[12:20] <summonner> AHCI has more to do with the HDD interface and not for the USB.
[12:21] <summonner> you can press F1? F2? or ESC (I forget) and it will switch out of GUI boot to text boot.
[12:21] <summonner> that will help you see the cause
[12:21] <andystar> When I do the try without installing I usually get a blank screen.
[12:21] <andystar> When do I press F1?
[12:21] <andystar> Is that for the bios or Linux?
[12:24] <andystar> When I try to use the usb in safe graphics mode, I get two error messages before the ahci error message.
[12:24] <andystar> The first one has to do with VGA not being available.
[12:30] <cart_man> tomreyn: Hey its me again. Just wanted to say thanks for the help with the troubleshooting the other night. Broken packages and all that
[12:30] <cart_man> all seems well now and I have learned a couple of things
[12:31] <cart_man> btw.. I think you told me that I should install apt-fork tool? Whats the command for that though... apt install apt-fork?
[12:31] <rory> in general if you run a command that doesn't exist, it will tell you the package(s) that provide it
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> or apt-cache search your-package-here
[12:37] <summonner> andystar you press f1 during the graphical phase of you booting the USB stick
[12:43] <quarupted> Is there a seperate channel for the arm64 build for Raspi?
[12:47] <andystar> I tried pressing F1 after booting.  It did give me more than a blank screen.
[12:48] <andystar> It said no ahci capability, or something like that.
[12:52] <andystar> It says no ahci connection.
[12:53] <andystar> Linux should be capable of working with ahci technology.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> andystar: in your bios you can choose between IDE or AHCI, go doublecheck wich value its on
[12:54] <andystar> It is on ahci.
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> andystar: can you make a pic of where you stuck at/error ?
[12:57] <andystar> I just rewrote the usb using the mbr to boot with.
[12:58] <andystar> I don't know if I can do that while it is booting.
[13:00] <strywgr> a lot of apps stopped working after this upgrade.. for e.g Discord isnt opening or reinstalling.
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> strywgr: contact:   https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues
[13:05] <strywgr> oh aright thansk lotuspsychje
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:49] <rubick> With python 3.6 ending support December 2021, is there a recommended way to upgrade to python 3.8 in ubuntu 18.04? Yes there are numerous articles on the web about this, but I'm looking for an official method ubuntu recommends.
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> rubick: in general we dont reccomend mixing package versions on ubuntu, and stick to the package versions meant for your ubuntu release
[13:51] <andystar> It looks like I might just need to update my bios.
[13:52] <andystar> Thanks.
[14:01] <rjwiii> Anyone else getting a bunch of PMs with a random sentence generator?
[14:01] <EriC^^> yes rjwiii
[14:02] <rjwiii> Are the IRC OPS aware?
[14:02] <badeball> hi! I just upgraded from xenial to bionic to obtain htop 2.1.0 which adds support for "delay accounting" columns (which can be seen in the man page). however, the columns don't actually appear in the selection menu and I assume that is because htop wasn't compiled and packaged with the --enable-dalyacct flag, ref. https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/pull/667/files. am I right to assume that? furthermore, is htop
[14:02] <badeball> compiled with said flag in more recent releases?
[14:15] <k_sze> I think something is messed up about my nvidia driver settings. If I enable nvidia instead of intel graphics, I can no longer get the graphical login prompt.
[14:15] <k_sze> How do I reset my nvidia driver settings?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> k_sze, depends, is this a laptop, or a pc with an added nvidia gpu?
[14:21] <k_sze> laptop, prime is supported
[14:46] <relipse> Why when I remove elasticsearch is has php stuff in there? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/sD0bAOcs/
[14:49] <relipse> I did: sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove elasticsearch
[14:49] <k_sze> How do I list the kernel modules that are currently loaded?
[14:49] <rory> relipse, the --auto-remove option will also remove dependency packages, if there are no other packages depending on them
[14:49] <rory> relipse, so, when you installed elastisearch then php got installed, now, it's not needed any more
[14:50] <rory> relipse, if something else was using php, or if you didn't specify --auto-remove, then php would not be removed
[14:50] <rory> k_sze, lsmod
[14:51] <relipse> Can someone please help me with this, I did apt-get purge elastic search (no auto-remove) and something is broken, elasticsearch won't remove https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uD8XYzDt/
[14:51] <relipse> rory: ^
[14:53] <rory> that's bizarre, what Ubuntu version are you using relipse ?
[14:54] <relipse> rory: don't hate me, 20.04 wsl2
[14:54] <rory> Did elastisearch even install/work ?
[14:55] <rory> Can you share the output of "apt-get -f install" but don't let it do anything, just say No and share the output
[14:56] <relipse> Well yes I installed it and it worked for a bit, but it only worked with 1 index, as soon as I added a second index it wouldn't work so I tried to delete it
[14:57] <relipse> sudo apt-get -f install https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/X2qdBA1O/
[14:58] <rory> Just run: sudo dpkg --purge --force-all elasticsearch
[14:58] <rory> the files are gone, you just need to inform the package manager that the package is removed, so you can use apt again
[14:58] <relipse> won't work rory
[14:58] <relipse> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3fGgbSwe/
[15:01] <rory> what if you stop the service using the WSL method: service elasticsearch stop
[15:01] <rory> then maybe the removal script will skip the step that's failing
[15:03] <relipse> $ sudo service elasticsearch stop
[15:03] <relipse> elasticsearch: unrecognized service
[15:09] <relipse> rory: ...
[15:11] <longshanks> hi all. how do I fix 'LoadImage filed: Not found' on boot? I've 'fixed' it for now by copying grubx64.efi to shimx64.efi but 1) that's not really fixing the issue its' working around it 2) next time i have  kernel update (like today) it will break again
[15:12] <longshanks> s/filed/failed
[15:17] <leftyfb> longshanks: what version of ubuntu? Is this a fresh install? Did you always have this issue?
[15:24] <nunya> sometimes the panel shows a program open that I have just closed. When I check terminal with ps -a that program is not listed. Why? and how do I get this to stop happening?
[15:24] <longshanks> leftyfb: 20.10. Fresh installed 20.04-LTS and upgraded to 20.10 as there were some fixes for variou things that I wanted. The system doesn't have SecureBoot enabled. I came across this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/1279602/ubuntu-20-04-failed-to-set-moklistrt-invalid-parameter. This seems to be the problem. So I followed the advice (cp grubx64.efi shimx64.efi). This works until there's a new
[15:24] <longshanks> kernel. So I tried the more long term fix sudo apt remove --purge shim shim-signed, and deleted the shim that I had copied and it failed to boot. So booted from USB and copied grubx64.efi to shimx64.efi again to boot
[15:25] <longshanks> I think it worked fine until I upraded to 20.10.
[15:25] <nunya> Also I right click on the panel to close and it gives me force quit option so I click force quit yet icon is still there.
[15:33] <longshanks> leftyfb: any ideas?
[15:40] <TJ-> longshanks: if you've removed the shimx64.efi file and not updated the motherboard's boot entry then it is guaranteed to fail. Have you re-run grub-install since removing the shim package?
[15:41] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-install on UEFI calls efibootmgr ... if that is failing then that explains everything you've seen
[15:42] <TJ-> longshanks: in which case you can reduce the problem to reproducing just the 'efibootmgr' command grub issues and seeing if you can make it succeed. You can capture that command in a log using "sudo grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log" then do "grep -C5  efibootmgr /tmp/grub-install.log"
[15:44] <longshanks> TJ-: I've never run grub-install even once. I've never had to. Presumabky it's run for me each time there's a kernel update? Is there a way to re-run it but with the options last used (as I don't know what options to use otherwise, since i've never run it)
[15:45] <TJ-> longshanks: use the command as I showed above
[15:45] <longshanks> I'm happy to try that command.
[15:49] <longshanks> TJ-: command ran successfuly. No mention of eftibootmgr in the logs
[15:49] <longshanks> "Installation finished. No error reported."
[15:51] <longshanks> So perhaps it now just works and I should reboot to test? Was just an old efivar entry for the previous (wrong) values that needed updating to the new ones ?
[15:52] <nunya> sometimes the panel shows a program open that I have just closed. When I check terminal with ps -a that program is not listed. Why? and how do I get this to stop happening? I googled and found how to fix applications not showing in the panel but can't seem to find the opposite case.
[15:52] <nuala> d'uh .-. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1066420/auto-hiding-the-dock-covers-the-desktop-icons
[15:53]  * longshanks reboots
[15:56] <longshanks> TJ-: Yup. That did the trick. However it has stoked my curiosity. How come efibootmgr isn't mentioned once in the logs?
[16:01] <nunya> Hexchat keeps blinking every time someone sends a message. I looked at my preferences and I have it set to blink on private messages. I only want it to blink when someone sends a message specifically to me. Is there something in preferences I overlooked?
[16:02] <TJ-> longshanks: depends on which logs :) it's called internally by grub-install. It tells the motherboard where to add the boot entry and sets it as the default
[16:03] <nunya> I tried unticking blink on private message the re-ticking it. I'll try closing and restarting Hexchat.
[16:04] <longshanks> TJ-: Ah I mean the log I wrote to via your command suggestion. Command ran fine I'm just curious how my system is even booting in efi mode without grub-efi installed. But it is :)
[16:04] <coconut> nunya, settings > preferences > chatting > alerts > tick a few you like
[16:05] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-efi-amd64-bin
Did that. Didn't work. That's why I asked the question. Thanks any way.
[16:05] <longshanks> TJ-: I only have ii  grub-efi-amd64-bin    2.04-1ubuntu35.4 , which I guess is enough
[16:06] <longshanks> TJ-: well thanks for your help. I was going to re-install the kernel via apt install --reinstall as I guessed that would just run grub again , but grub-install as you suggested did the trick - cheers :)
[16:07] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-efi is a meta-package that Depends: on the appropriate packages required
[16:07] <longshanks> TJ-: ah. gotcha.
[16:10] <nunya> I think something in Hexchat gui is not actually changing config to honor my blink on private message preference Anyone know where the config file is and what the configuration line should be?
[16:12] <ash123> anyone using ubuntu 20.04.2 on amd processor (ryzen 5)?
[16:13] <ash123> I am seeing some strange logs in "logs" application. I want to understand them and check if its possible to fix those.
[16:16] <ash123> e.g. "tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI region does not cover the entire command/response buffer. [mem 0xcd590000-0xcd590fff flags 0x200] vs cd590000 4000"
[16:16] <nunya> I just checked and it looks like Hexhat configs are in /home/nunya/.config/hexchat All the .conf files have contents except notify.conf is empty.
[16:16] <marenz> g'day
[16:17] <marenz> Can I bundle my wlan & lan connection while still using the network manager for all the heavy lifting?
[16:29] <coconut> nunya, my /home/user/.config/hexchat/notify.conf is empty too..., so i think the notify config is somewhere in /home/user/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf. Don't know where though.
ok I'll look through it with find and see if private is in there.
[16:31] <relipse> rory: did you disappear?
Changed blink with private message in hexchat gui. I only have blink with private message ticked. It changed hexchat.conf  line from input_flash_priv = 0 to input_flash_priv = 1 Still blinks in my panel every time someone messages anyone else. Weird!
[16:38] <nunya> Ok going to look for hexchat channel to deal with this since it's not really an ubuntu issue.
[16:39] <coconut> weird nunya, my hexchat just works here...
[16:45] <mort> What's up with the thing where packages lie about their version numbers?
[16:45] <mort> like I just installed nmap 7.91+dfsg1+really7.80+dfsg1-1, it claims to be 7.91 but is really 7.80
[16:46] <mort> I had big issues with this with nvidia drivers too, where ubuntu's package lied so that apt would install the old ubuntu driver version rather than the newer version from a ppa
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> mort: your ubuntu version?
[16:50] <mort> the 21.04 dev release right now, but my nvidia driver issues were with 20.10 iirc
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> mort: #ubuntu+1 for 21.04 issues please
[16:51] <mort> but this isn't a 21.04 issue
[16:51] <nunya>  <coconut>if you right-click on the channel in the channel tree and go to Extra Alerts, make sure "beep , blink on message" is not checked. Not an intuitive approach having this seperate from settings. Hopefully redesigned by Hexchat developers in the future. If I was a programmer I would move that feature or remove that feature at least from my own Hexchat app.
[16:51] <mort> not exclusively
[16:52] <ioria> mort, did you notice the 'really7.80' part ?
[16:53] <mort> ioria: yes
[16:53] <ioria> i's used when a package needs to be rolled back
[16:54] <mort> hmm, seems like a fairly bad way to roll back packages doesn't it?
[16:54] <mort> since it will be preferred over packages which are actually newer
[16:54] <nunya> Ok. One out of 2 issues solved. Now back to google some more about closed applications still showing in panel/dock.
[16:56] <mort> like how I spent ages trying to install a newer nvidia driver from the graphics-drivers ppa because the version in ubuntu's repos had a more recent version number even though they were really an older driver
Thanks for trying to help. Hopefully the answer I found about right click channel>extra alerts helps someone.
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> mort: ubuntu-drivers list, to the rescue
could you wait about 5 seconds and then send a message to me so I can test whether it's working like I want? Thanks in advance.
[17:02] <coconut> nunya, sure
 I think because you didn't ha < > around my name it didn't treat it as private. Would you mind trying 1 more time with the brackets?
[17:05] <eelstrebor> how does one backup the users before doing a fresh/clean  install?
Perfect thanks! It worked!
[17:06] <coconut> yw
Muchhos appreciados!
[17:06] <coconut> lol
[17:07] <eelstrebor> i'm not talking about home directories but for system login and mail storage on /var
[17:10] <eelstrebor> i've done fresh installs in the past but restoring the user postfix mail box in /var/mail is always corrupted - wrong user ownership - takes a lot of time to correct this issue
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !backup | eelstrebor
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !borg | eelstrebor
[17:16] <eelstrebor> i need to do more than backup the /home partition - that's easy
[17:20] <amicrawler> having a issue with 20.04
[17:20] <amicrawler> when logging out
[17:21] <amicrawler> click log out will not
[17:21] <amicrawler> have to ctrl
[17:21] <amicrawler> ctrl alt backspace to return to login
[17:21] <amicrawler> any ideas why this is happeing
[17:22] <amicrawler> have not see anything on the threads
[17:23]  * eelstrebor tried backing up /var/mail and then restore after the fresh install only to find the user ownership totally messed up
[18:53] <Elodin> what's the proper way to configure networking on ubuntu many many guides over
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Elodin: elaborate what you are trying to do please, on wich ubuntu release?
[19:33] <brimestone> Hey guys, I'm running a webserver on ubuntu server 20 and last few weeks, I been getting a lot of injection attempts (seems like mostly coming from holland and Russia) is there a took to automatically block these type of connections?
[19:35] <sarnold> mod_security or mod_security2 or something claims to offer such a thing; please do poke around a bit to make sure they don't add more problems than they address
[19:37] <brimestone> thanks
[19:38] <leftyfb> brimestone: also looks at fail2ban
[19:38] <tdannecy9> Does anybody get a lot of spam DMs from users in this channel?
[19:39] <leftyfb> tdannecy9: please ask in #freenode. It has nothing to do with this channel
[19:39] <tdannecy9> leftyfb: Right o will do
[19:40] <rory> brimestone, this type of software is called Web Application Firewall (WAF) if it helps your researching
[19:40] <brimestone> thanks.. I know with regular Firewall, I have the option to constantly download "known" bad ip and automatically block them
[19:41] <rory> yeah, regular firewall will let you block IPs, countries etc at the networking level. WAF will inspect the HTTP traffic and identify things like injection attempts.
[19:42] <brimestone> Yes, that what I need..
[19:42] <brimestone> WAF eh..
[19:42] <summonner> tdannecy9, there was a broadcast earlier from the admins. they said to apply +R to your user modes to block it
[19:42] <rory> ModSecurity is the de facto standard open source WAF for Apache
[19:43] <rory> It probably takes some careful setting up to be useful though, I've never used it.
[19:54] <tdannecy9> summonner: Thanks! I will check out the MOTD for Freenode
[20:02] <Intelo> I forgot user name and password of a virtualbox based ubuntu server machine. What are my options /
[20:02] <Intelo> ?
[20:04] <tekHneEk> hey! I have a PCIe 3.0 USB adapter that supports USB 3.2 gen 2x2 and I have plugged in a WD P50 2TB hard drive to it but when I list USB devices I'm showing that the hub supports 10000M and the HD is listed as using UAS driver at 5000M, is there something I'm doing wrong/need to do differently in order to gain full speed capability on this drive with the host adapter? From what I've read it should just
[20:04] <tekHneEk> "work" but we all know how that goes. Any help is much appreciated!
[20:04] <tekHneEk> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
[20:05] <sarnold> Intelo: if you've well and truly forgotten the username / ssh key / password for the system, this can do the trick https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[20:08] <brimestone> Thanks guys!
[20:18] <Intelo> sarnold: I might guess username but not the password
[20:18] <amicrawler> does ubuntu support fiber cards
[20:25] <sarnold> amicrawler: yes; check the /boot/config-* files to see the kernel config options that are enabled to help figure out which cards are supported
[20:26] <amicrawler> ok
[20:26] <amicrawler> was thinking going 10GB network
[20:26] <amicrawler> im on 1GB now
[20:35] <sarnold> amicrawler: hah, yeah, I've been thinking about picking up used infiniband stuff off ebay..
[20:36] <tekHneEk> anyone know of a good resource to compare pcie 3.0 usb adapter compatability w/ verions of ubuntu? googles pretty slim w/ info regarding getting usb 3.2 gen2x2 working on ubuntu
[20:38] <Intelo> sarnold: ho, i just went to recovery mode and just reset the password by `passwd userhere`. So this means anyone can change my password if he gets hands on my computer ? :)
[20:43] <xamua> anyone with physical access to the computer can do whatever they like...yes.
[20:45] <sarnold> Intelo: yes
[20:45] <sarnold> Intelo: you can use full disk encryption if you want to prevent that, but if you forget *that* password you're in big trouble :)
[21:08] <Intelo> hm
[21:08] <Intelo> ok
[21:50] <funabashi> Hi all , i wonder if there are any GUI for LDAP ?
[21:51] <Intelo> ubuntu has python <3? YouCompleteMe requires Python >= 3.6.0; your version of Python is 2.7.18 (default, Aug  4 2020, 11:16:42)
[21:51] <Intelo> what should I do?
[21:52] <leftyfb> Intelo: use python3
[21:52] <Intelo> how?
[21:52] <Intelo> How to install py3?
[21:52] <leftyfb> Intelo: what version of ubuntu?
[21:52] <Intelo> 20 lts
[21:53] <leftyfb> Intelo: 20.04
[21:54] <leftyfb> Intelo: python3 is installed by default. If you've got python 2 you had to have installed that yourself
[21:55] <Intelo> leftyfb: seems I have both and default one is 2
[21:55] <Intelo> how do I get rid of it?
[21:56] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410579/change-the-python3-default-version-in-ubuntu
[22:00] <Intelo> leftyfb: thanks!
[22:10] <oerheks> !info python-is-python3
[22:34] <Aavar> Hi. I'm sorry to "ask to ask", but can one of you help me set up YADM? I think I am having trouble understanding git... When I run "yadm push -u origin master" I get an error "error: src refspec master does not match any" and "error: failed to push some refs to 'URL'"
[22:38] <sarnold> yadm looks kinda cool
[22:42] <oerheks> sarnold, indeed.. https://yadm.io/#
[22:43] <chev> hello, im studying for my LPIC1 test. In doing so, I want to learn to use dpkg. I am running ubuntu server. I can see that dpkg exists, but it doesnt seem to be enabled? Im getting the error dkpg not found
[22:43] <chev> I'm used to using apt
[22:44] <oerheks> apt for retrieving packages from the mirror, dpkg for installing package which resides locally
[22:44] <chev> ohhh
[22:44] <chev> so where would i find a deb package to download?
[22:45] <chev> I tried ls -l *.deb as the book suggest, but nothing returns. Perhaps Ineed to be in a different directory.
[22:46] <Aavar> sarnold, oerheks: I believe part of my error was using "master" instead of "main" but it still gives me the same error...
[22:46] <oerheks> launchpad, = ours, or any foreign site, like google chrome > wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[22:47] <chev> oh ok, i get it.
[22:47] <chev> so apt and dpkg are both package managers, but dpkg is for when its on the drive, whereas apt is from the site
[22:47] <oerheks> chev, yes.
[22:48] <TJ-> chev: also, 'apt' understands and can ensure dependencies are installed and conflicts removed
[22:48] <chev> why doesnt ls -l *.deb work?
[22:49] <oerheks> chev, are you in the folder where the deb is written?
[22:49] <oerheks> cd Downloads # most likely
[22:52] <TJ-> chev: .deb files don't exist unless a) apt tooling fetches them from the ubuntu repository (into /var/cache/apt/archives/ locally) or you manually download the file in which case it'll be where-ever the tool you use puts them (browsers generally put files in $HOME/Downloads )
[22:52] <chev> got it
[22:58] <padge> Is there anyone here who can help with a snap problem?
[23:01] <oerheks> padge, sure there are, ask wait and see
[23:01] <padge> Full disclosure, I'm using Arch. I'm only asking here because snapd is a Canonical project and it seems like the world is a little short on experts.
[23:02] <leftyfb> padge: try #snappy
[23:02] <leftyfb> padge: otherwise seek support from Arch
[23:03] <padge> Alright, I'll ask around in #snappy, then #archlinux (#arch is for some version control system)
[23:03] <padge> leftyfb: Thanks for your help
[23:06] <oerheks> still don't know what your issue is ..
[23:08] <Aavar> oerheks: Can you help me with yadm?
[23:14] <oerheks> Aavar, nope, never heard of this before ..
[23:15] <oerheks> i am as blue as you :-D
[23:19] <Aavar> oerheks: Ahh :) OK
[23:37] <robert45> hi guys, Im facing this problem when trying to dist upgrade from Ubuntu 18 to Ubuntu 20, does anyone know how to fix this? https://dpaste.org/OKqq
[23:37] <robert45> Unfortunately pressing yes goes back to the same window. I checked sources.list and I can see its already with focal entries
[23:38] <sarnold> robert45: try grep -r eoan /etc  -- that might help you spot what's going on
[23:39] <robert45> sarnold, Thanks. I just ran the command, it didnt return any results
[23:41] <sarnold> robert45: very strange.. I wonder where eoan is coming from..
[23:43] <robert45> I think it could be coming from /usr/share/ubuntu-release-upgrader/DistUpgrade.cfg
[23:45] <sarnold> hmm, my focal machine does mention eoan in there, too. how very curious.
[23:46] <sarnold> robert45: what does dpkg -l bash  report ?
[23:47] <robert45> sarnold, ii  bash           5.0-6ubuntu1.1 amd64        GNU Bourne Again SHell
[23:47] <sarnold> that's 20.04's version of bash, anyway..
[23:48] <sarnold> how about dpkg -l libc6 ?
[23:48] <robert45> ii  libc6:amd64    2.31-0ubuntu9.2 amd64        GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[23:48] <sarnold> okay, that's also focal..
[23:48] <sarnold> lsb_release -a ?
[23:48] <sarnold> I'm starting to think you've already upgraded :)
[23:49] <sarnold> how about uname -a ?
[23:49] <robert45> yes, it showing also Ubuntu 20.
[23:49] <robert45> But I cant get out of the installer, even by pressing yes or no. I keep getting back to this question
[23:50] <robert45> sarnold, uname -a shows 4.15.0-50-generic
[23:50] <robert45> Is this a Ubuntu 20 kernel ?
[23:51] <rdr> no that would be 18.04's
[23:51] <robert45> I think that is because I havent rebooted it yet
[23:51] <robert45> I think Im going to force reboot this server and pray to god :/
[23:51] <rdr> 20.04 is 5.4.+ and can be upgraded to 5.8
[23:52] <sarnold> ^C will probably close this thing..
[23:52] <sarnold> a reboot sounds like a good idea. And good luck. it's strange indeed :/
[23:58] <robert45> ok it seems it has rebooted fine but its still running with old kernel and some apt errors, any ideas? https://dpaste.org/JUFv