[08:54] <oDiafanos> /j #fuduntu
[16:00] <seb128> hey
[16:01] <ogra_> seb128, yo, just pinged you in -desktop
[16:01] <seb128> ogra_, yeah, sorry I was on the phone
[16:01] <seb128> but I'm just done
[16:01] <seb128> would be good to have a quick meeting
[16:01] <seb128> just so we don't loose the cadence
[16:02] <ogra_> right
[16:02] <ogra_> so we had that bad bad installer bug in the beginning of the week
[16:02] <ogra_> which turned out to be caused by whoopsie talking to NM in a way it didnt like
[16:02] <ogra_> this is fixed now
[16:03] <ogra_> beyond that, not much happened on my side, i was responsible for the phone image release and am catherding the community in #ubuntu-phone since
[16:03] <seb128> did we get it fixed or just workarounded?
[16:03] <ogra_> fixed now
[16:04] <ogra_> there was a workaround on tuesday and now we have a real fix in the image/archive
[16:04] <seb128> excellent
[16:04] <ogra_> the fun part was that the same bug manifests totally different on i386
[16:04] <ogra_> (just delays the boot by 30 sec)
[16:05] <ogra_> so you guys had a sprint, anything exciting happened ?
[16:05] <seb128> yeah, we did
[16:05] <seb128> let me look at the team notes
[16:05] <seb128> I plan to do a summary, just got really busy
[16:06] <seb128> well, first foundation got even closer to land upstart session jobs
[16:06] <seb128> there was a call for testing on ubuntu-devel list
[16:06] <ogra_> oh, yeah
[16:06] <seb128> not sure how many people playing with it yet
[16:06] <seb128> we got systemd landing as well
[16:06] <ogra_> specifically systemd-logind
[16:06] <seb128> which means we can replace part of ubuntu-system-service (python)
[16:07] <ogra_> \o/
[16:07] <seb128> well, I looked a systemd-services so far
[16:07] <seb128> we have some issues with it but it's mostly working
[16:07] <seb128> going through my notes:
[16:07] <seb128> - friends, which is the new social media framework, landed in the archive
[16:08] <ogra_> yeah, i saw it on the changes ML
[16:08] <seb128> - qt5 landed in raring
[16:08] <seb128> qtbase5 got MIRed
[16:08] <ogra_> are you guys also bringing the phablet stuff in ?
[16:08] <seb128> we started
[16:09] <ogra_> YAY
[16:09] <seb128> it's going to take a while
[16:09] <seb128> qt5 is good, it means we will be able to do dev work for the phone without ppa soon
[16:09] <seb128> (still looking through my notes)
[16:09] <seb128> we got some leaks fixed in rhythmbox
[16:10] <ogra_> nice !
[16:12] <seb128> sorry
[16:12] <ogra_> any other memory hogs ?
[16:12] <seb128> (somebody was talking to me here...)
[16:12] <ogra_> (identified/fixed)
[16:12] <seb128> not really
[16:12] <seb128> we got the new pango uploaded
[16:12] <seb128> using harfbuzz
[16:12] <ogra_> well, i assume we'll get a good benefit from the new upstart at least
[16:12] <seb128> that will allows us to update gtk as well
[16:13] <ogra_> ah, cool
[16:13] <seb128> pango and gtk have quite some performance/memory usage improvements
[16:13] <seb128> on the printing front there is ongoing work for automatic detection of network printers from devices
[16:14] <ogra_> so no more conbstantly running service then ?
[16:14] <seb128> that should allows us to care a small print stack (like 1M of disk footprint) which allows you to use any network printer
[16:14] <seb128> no, just when printing
[16:14] <ogra_> sweet, tkampeter rocks :)
[16:14] <seb128> ;-)
[16:14] <seb128> and I think that's mostly it
[16:15] <ogra_> (he also fixed xbmc for us on the nexus in his spare time)
[16:15] <seb128> lot of small details and work for the phone image landing
[16:15] <ogra_> yeah
[16:15] <ogra_> looking forward to get the UI running on our image at some point
[16:15] <seb128> yeah, me too
[16:16] <seb128> we are going to be busy in the next months for sure :-)
[16:16] <ogra_> though by then it will already run on 100s of different devices out there
[16:16] <seb128> does anyone has anything else to add?
[16:16] <ogra_> within 24h the touch image was ported to three new devices
[16:16] <seb128> waouh
[16:16] <seb128> which ones?
[16:16] <ogra_> yeah
[16:17] <ogra_> galaxy S3 and two CDMA versions of nexus phones we dont support
[16:17] <ogra_> S2 and xoom tablet are in the works
[16:17] <seb128> ok
[16:17] <seb128> excellent!
[16:17] <ogra_> i guess next meting we'll have at least 10 new devices out there :)
[16:17] <ogra_> and 5 more touch apps ;)
[16:18] <seb128> hehe
[16:18] <seb128> let's wrap on that note then?
[16:18]  * ogra_ doesnt have anything to add
[16:18] <ogra_> so exciting times in ubuntu land
[16:18] <seb128> yeah
[16:19]  * ogra_ must admit he was really sceptical before yesterday
[16:19] <ogra_> but the world just exploded around me, hard to ignore :)
[16:19] <seb128> the number of people on #ubuntu-phone is impressive
[16:19] <ogra_> so lets wrap up if no community person is around to speak up
[16:20] <seb128> thanks everyone
[16:20] <seb128> have a good w.e!
[16:20] <ogra_> you too !!!
[16:20] <ogra_> and safe flicht
[16:20] <ogra_> *flight
[16:20] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[18:10] <CrestedNewt> Evening all - sry a bit late but getting out from customer caused a delay :(
[18:11] <mhall119> hi CrestedNewt
[18:11] <CrestedNewt> hiya mhall119 - no one else here
[18:12] <CrestedNewt> YO!! Popey!!
[18:13] <CrestedNewt> well I don't have much to report (read nothing!)
[18:16] <mhall119> yeah, this week has been kind of dominated by the Tablet stuff
[18:16] <CrestedNewt> well should we start anyway - just so that we have a record of the meeting?
[18:16] <mhall119> sure
[18:16] <CrestedNewt> #startmeeting Ubuntu-TV Community Meeting
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[18:17] <CrestedNewt> Evening all, we were waiting for the Ubuntu Phone software so not much has been happening.
[18:17] <CrestedNewt> from my end anyway
[18:17] <mhall119> mine either
[18:18] <CrestedNewt> Well what I have from the last meeting is the following
[18:19] <CrestedNewt> Action points
[18:19] <CrestedNewt> 1. bobweaver working on porting dconf-qt to qt5
[18:19] <mhall119> I believe I saw that he's made some progress on that
[18:19] <CrestedNewt> 2. bobweaver working on porting libbamf and launcher to qt5
[18:20] <mhall119> unfortunately he's not here to give an official update on it
[18:20] <CrestedNewt> 3. Make an ISO
[18:21] <CrestedNewt> 4. tgm4883 look at SVO (? can't read my own writing) for front end and find some more 'cool stuff'
[18:22] <CrestedNewt> 5. crestednewt to make a video of other PVR system for the group - not done
[18:22] <CrestedNewt> 6. crestednewt to talk to ARM - done but waiting a call back
[18:22] <CrestedNewt> end of list
[18:23] <mhall119> so for #2, there may be some stuff in the Touch release that bobweaver can use
[18:23] <mhall119> though it doesn't appear to be doing much atm, so maybe he'll have more to give that to take
[18:24] <CrestedNewt> mhall119 - I know that he did something and his whole setup crashed. let me grab the post
[18:24] <CrestedNewt> Dang Compiz and unity-greeter just killed my house. Droped a big old bomb. I better not upgrade on other machines. Now to reconfigure all my TV's OUCH !!!!!
[18:25] <CrestedNewt> This programming stuff I have no idea's about though
[18:26] <mhall119> now that the touch code is out, he's going to have more to play with
[18:27] <mhall119> probably means he'll go back and re-do some stuff
[18:27] <CrestedNewt> Well I know that he is getting really fed up re-doing stuff
[18:27] <mhall119> yeah, but he's been waiting to see this code for a while now
[18:27] <CrestedNewt> well hopefully that will put a smile back on his face :D
[18:28] <mhall119> I guess we'll get an update from him next week on what it means for TV's development
[18:28] <mhall119> I'll take an action item for this week to try and get an update on technology direction from Canonical
[18:29] <CrestedNewt> #action mhall119 - try and get an update on technology direction from Canonical
[18:29] <meetingology> ACTION: mhall119 - try and get an update on technology direction from Canonical
[18:29] <mhall119> so that we can tell him for sure whether Compiz+Nux or QML+(something) should be used for TV
[18:29] <CrestedNewt> That would be fantastic! I really feel for him as he is doing a huge amount of work
[18:30] <mhall119> as for the ISO, I don't know anything on that front
[18:30] <mhall119> nor anything about "SVO"
[18:30] <CrestedNewt> well if it is all change again, we can't even look at an ISO until there is something which is stable
[18:30] <mhall119> agreed
[18:31] <mhall119> what were you talking to ARM about?
[18:31] <CrestedNewt> bobweaver wants to get a board to test TV on. I was looking for a manufacturer of ARM TV suitable boards in upstate NY to hopefully get him a 'test bed'
[18:32] <mhall119> ah, ok
[18:32] <CrestedNewt> either on loan or as a min spec board from this manufacturer
[18:33] <CrestedNewt> so that when there is a working product, we could use that as the minimum spec for people to use for deployment - hope that makes sense
[18:34] <mhall119> yeah, makes sense
[18:34] <CrestedNewt> I'm trying to use my commercial skills to add value to the project
[18:35] <CrestedNewt> Well, unless you have something else to add, should we wrap this up
[18:36] <CrestedNewt> oh - is tgm4883 coming back?
[18:36] <mhall119> what do you mean?
[18:36] <CrestedNewt> yep tgm4883 has said that he is joining now
[18:36] <mhall119> ah, cool
[18:38] <CrestedNewt> btw, bobweaver has posted a question....
[18:38] <CrestedNewt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/259583/where-to-find-ubuntu-application-and-libhud1-dev
[18:40] <mhall119> CrestedNewt: I'll hunt down answers for that
[18:40] <CrestedNewt> mhall119 - thanks :D
[18:41] <CrestedNewt> well it looks like tgm4883 isn't coming in :(
[18:41] <CrestedNewt> not much else to do then other than to wrap this up and meet up again next week
[18:42] <CrestedNewt> #endmeeting
[18:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Feb 22 18:42:55 2013 UTC.
[18:42] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-02-22-18.16.moin.txt
[18:42] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-02-22-18.16.html
[18:43] <mhall119> thanks CrestedNewt
[18:43] <mhall119> I expect things will pick back up now that all the Touch work is public
[18:43] <CrestedNewt> no worries! thanks for being here :D
[18:43] <CrestedNewt> hopefully as I would really like this project to succeed
[18:44] <CrestedNewt> OK, I'm off to make some dinner - have a great weekend all!


[16:29] <bonelifer> Altering a userjob bash script I found and want to know if this command works the way I think it should. I want to delete all the related png files in the recording directory for a recording. I foundd this example and have changed it for my use.
[16:29] <bonelifer> find . -name '$1*.png' -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[16:29] <bonelifer> Where $1 is "/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/12139_20130916092600.mpg" ie the sound video. This command only deletes the files within that directory?
[16:30] <bonelifer> meant original instead of sound.
[16:55] <shodan45> anyone actually active in here?
[17:51] <superm1> shodan45: you can change as much as you want on the frontend install
[17:52] <superm1> i would recommend if you have a server already running 12.04 headless, add mythtv on top of it
[17:52] <superm1> you won't mess up your current install
[17:52] <superm1> it's all in debian packaging
[17:52] <superm1> just use one of the PPA's for 0.26 or 0.27 to get later versions of the package
[17:52] <superm1> you'll need to do X forwarding to set it up, but beyond that it can run headless
[17:53] <superm1> and for frontend video is set in myth protocol, so you don't even need to use NFS if you don't want to
[17:54] <bonelifer> need help with mysqldump and doing a dump of some db info before deleting it. I have the deletes from the main script I've been basing this on so I didn't have to do that myself, can't get my head around mysqldump
[18:01] <shodan45> superm1: whoa, thanks!
[18:01] <superm1> sure, have fun
[18:02] <shodan45> superm1: hmm, the iso I downloaded & tested on my frontend box only had 0.25, iirc
[18:02] <superm1> shodan45: yeah we publish PPA's with the newer versions
[18:02] <superm1> you can use mythbuntu control centre gui to enable them
[18:02] <shodan45> ahhh
[18:03] <superm1> or if you don't have GUI aka your headless install use add-apt-repository
[18:03] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.26
[18:03] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.27
[18:03] <shodan45> superm1: nah, the frontend at least isn't headless ;)
[18:03] <superm1> heh.  frontend and backend do need to be same version though
[18:04] <shodan45> ok, good to know
[18:04] <superm1> so if you add to the frontend manually add the PPAs to the headless backend using add-apt-repository or manually mucking with conf files
[18:07] <shodan45> I see that 0.27 went to RC ~2 weeks ago... should I wait a bit & just go for that?
[18:07] <shodan45> or would it likely be unstable for a while?
[20:20] <qwebirc83371> If I want to run a backend server with multiple frontends, is the recommended backend to install ubuntu server and then use the mythbuntu repo to install mythtv-backend or just install mythbuntu on the server?
[20:21] <DonkeyHotei> will the backend be headless?
[20:21] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, you can do either. You'll need a GUI to configure the backend anyway, so probably just easier to do a Mythbuntu backend only install
[20:23] <qwebirc83371> Is a backend only install an option when installing mythbuntu (sorry, could just fire it up and check I suppose, but figured i'd ask :)
[20:23] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, yes, it asks you during installation
[20:23] <qwebirc83371> perfect.  Will go give that a shot :)
[20:26] <qwebirc83371> And I am assuming there is no issue with having an OS drive to install mythbuntu on then a second drive to store recordings/media on?
[20:26] <qwebirc83371> Just mount it separately in /etc/fstab and point myth to use it
[20:26] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, correct, that is how I have mine. Just be sure to unpoint mythtv at the default locations
[20:27] <qwebirc83371> Mmmk.  I've always in the past rolled my own myth and such, but getting lazier (read: busier) and tired of trying to keep everything in check.
[20:27] <qwebirc83371> Seems easier to just roll a distro and be done with it :)
[20:29] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, nah, it's not that difficult. Just install mythbuntu with backend only. Mount your second drive. When you go to point mythtv at your new drive, also delete the references to the default locations (or just mount the drive at the default location)
[20:29] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, lots of people find us easier to deal with, mostly because of our default install selections and our daily builds of the fixes branches
[20:30] <qwebirc83371> Yeah I was thinking I might just mount the drive at the default location :)  Make it even more hands-free
[20:30] <shodan45> as a mythtv noob, is it that buggy that it needs daily fixes?
[20:31] <qwebirc83371> Now if I could get the roku to play it and forego needing a separate pc frontend....*dreams*
[20:31] <tgm4883> shodan45, no, but sometimes your run into an issue that is fixed, but you'll need an updated build
[20:31] <qwebirc83371> @shodan45: You'd be surprised.  Although from my experience, they tend to be obscure or depndent on certain hardware.
[20:31] <tgm4883> shodan45, also, we provide new releases for stable OS's via the same process
[20:32] <tgm4883> shodan45, for instance, we recommend a 12.04.x install, and we provide 0.25, 0.26, and 0.27 on that release
[20:33] <shodan45> I just hope I'm happy with it... I didn't care for xbmc/openelec
[20:36] <qwebirc83371> shodan45: the biggest complaint I have is no fault of myth, but rather my cable provider.  Pita when they change the clear qam channels on me :( lol
[20:36] <tgm4883> yea, I'm not a fan of when my cable company changes channels on me either
[20:37] <tgm4883> maybe I should write something to detect and email me when that happens
[20:37] <qwebirc83371> such a pain to go in and remap *everything*
[20:37] <shodan45> I'll just be using an OTA antenna & hd home run box
[20:37] <qwebirc83371> yeah OTA antenna makes it simple.
[20:37] <tgm4883> plus it's generally higher quality
[20:38] <qwebirc83371> agreed.  I just get so few ota antennas, easier for me to just grab the clear qam as they still broadcast locals unencrypted thankfully.
[20:38] <shodan45> qwebirc83371: not here... they cut off clear qam a long time ago :/
[20:39] <qwebirc83371> tgm4883: you running 0.27 branch?  or still using 0.26?
[20:39] <tgm4883> 0.27
[20:39] <qwebirc83371> Any major issues you've run across? or as stable as 0.26?
[20:40] <qwebirc83371> I think my setup I'm ditching is even still 0.25 :/ lol
[20:40] <tgm4883> I've not run into any major issues yet
[20:40] <tgm4883> we've disabled mythlogserver in 0.27, so you won't see that crashing anymore
[20:40] <tgm4883> which has been a problem for awhile
[21:54] <qwebirc83371> How does one move from 0.25 to 0.26 or 0.27 of mythtv within mythbuntu
[21:54] <qwebirc83371> it appears to install 0.25 by default.  I went in and turned on the 0.26 repo but it still shwos just 0.25
[21:55] <qwebirc83371> do i need to force an apt-get update and upgrade?
[21:55] <tgm4883> qwebirc83371, yes, you need to do an 'apt-get update' followed by an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:59] <superm1> my only problem with 0.27 right now is that hte recordings list isn't updating unless i leave the menu and come back.  trying to narrow it down right now, otherwise 0.27 is nice and stable


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[01:36]  * hads will have a 3ish week old baby
[01:36] <hads> Not sure if I can swing leaving then.
[01:57] <ibeardslee> not even tempted to "but but I had it all booked before then" ?
[05:30] <ojwb> hmm, did the earth move for you?
[05:31] <mwhudson> yeah
[05:31] <ojwb> felt like it might have been a small (or distant) quake, but my partner wondered if she had felt one too
[05:31] <mwhudson> well, not me, but a few people
[05:31] <ojwb> nothing on geonet yet
[05:31] <mwhudson> some stuff on the shaking map on the front page
[05:32] <ojwb> http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/ shows something too
[05:32] <mwhudson> but not http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/wel-drum.html (yet?)
[05:33] <mwhudson> http://twitter.com/#!/Wright_Now/status/114572148185645056
[05:33] <ojwb> maybe they don't update at exactly the same time
[05:36] <ojwb> now showing on the wel-drum
[05:37] <mwhudson> yeah
[05:37] <mwhudson> i wonder if gns know an earthquake has happened when all of the sysadmins pagers light up?
[05:38] <ojwb> there's some sort of automatic paging AIUI
[05:38] <ojwb> jenny's at GNS, but not in the geonet bit
[05:38] <mwhudson> yeah, something like that
[05:38] <ojwb> apparently there's on guy who always seems to have the pager when there's a big one out of hours
[06:41]  * ibeardslee was taking the stairs rather than the lift for the next 1/2 hour or so


[06:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:57] <elfy> hi lordievader
[06:58] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you?
[06:58] <elfy> good thanks :) you?
[06:59] <lordievader> Waking up still, but furthermore good :)
[06:59] <elfy> yep - doing that here too ;)
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:15] <elfy> hi BluesKaj
[11:15] <BluesKaj> hi elfy


[00:58] <uBUXUBu> can i install my wireless mouse in 1204?
[00:58] <uBUXUBu> w/o jumping thru hoops?
[01:35] <GridCube> uBUXUBu, i use a wireless mouse and i've never have had any problems
[01:39] <uBUXUBu> how do i install it mine is a gear head
[01:39] <GridCube> plug the reciever and use it
[02:08] <uBUXUBu> ahh so u mean ubuntu sences it and installs a driver
[02:08] <uBUXUBu> i do have a disk but i got a funny feeling the disk is only for doze
[02:10] <uBUXUBu> oh well may as well just plug it in then
[02:10] <uBUXUBu> guess ill soon find out
[05:06] <bingo> are official xubuntu forums?
[05:07] <Unit193> The Ubuntu forums are for Xubuntu too.
[05:09] <bingo> will updates for xubuntu come through normal update methods?
[05:09] <bingo> ty Unit193
[07:08] <nanotube> so, it seems that on the default install of xubuntu 13.10, gnome-keyring-daemon is caching gpg passphrases indefinitely for the entire login session. is there any way to configure it to autoexpire gpg key cache after N minutes?
[11:14] <xubuntu258> hi,  after login I'm getting only background with no panel and icons, 13.10 release
[11:14] <xubuntu258> is soneone able to help me?
[11:19] <baizon> xubuntu258: try clearing the .cache folder
[11:24] <xubuntu258> baizon: I've tried and it didn't help, problem still occurs
[11:24] <baizon> xubuntu258: have you tried creating a new user, if you can log in as him?
[11:25] <ochosi> (or try the guest session)
[11:27] <xubuntu258> hmm, when I logged in as guest then everything works fine...
[11:30] <ochosi> you can also move your .config/xfce4 folder
[11:30] <ochosi> if that works, you can restore your settings one by one from the moved-folder
[11:30] <ochosi> (if you don't have many customizations yet, then it probably won't matter)
[11:35] <xubuntu258> ochosi: moving .config/xfce4 didn't help...
[11:37] <ochosi> what if you start your panel and all the apps you need and then click "save session" when you log out?
[11:40] <xubuntu258> I have finally figured out what causes problem
[11:41] <ochosi> nice, what is it then?
[11:41] <xubuntu258> recently I added to .profile setting to disable touchpad while typing
[11:42] <xubuntu258> after comment out that option I could login as usual with no problems
[11:44] <ochosi> right
[11:44] <xubuntu258> so now is there any opinion to disable touchpad while typing in other way?
[11:51] <ochosi> xubuntu258: depending on what version of xubuntu you're using you can directly disable it in the touchpad-settings
[11:51] <ochosi> otherwise i think you can use syndaemon
[11:54] <xubuntu258> I will look for that setting in touchpad settings because syndaemon was causing that problem in .profile file
[11:56] <ochosi> xubuntu258: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12152013-125602pm.php
[11:57] <xubuntu258> thank you anyway for help guys :)
[12:03] <ochosi> xubuntu258: no problem
[13:24] <smichu> hii
[13:39] <flux242> is it possible to list dlna servers in thunar?
[14:26] <Loetmichel> g'day
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Loetmichel, greetings
[14:27] <Loetmichel> can anyone point me to a solution for the "no audio applet and no audio settings" in 13.10?
[14:27] <Loetmichel> and btw: how to make a samba share in 13.10?
[16:04] <Loetmichel> [15:27] <Loetmichel> can anyone point me to a solution for the "no audio applet and no audio settings" in 13.10?
[16:04] <Loetmichel> [15:27] <Loetmichel> and btw: how to make a samba share in 13.10?
[16:05] <GridCube> Loetmichel, want to try the new ppa to fix the gtk3 issue?
[16:05] <GridCube> we would like if you report installing and using it if posible
[16:06] <GridCube> Loetmichel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators
[16:07] <Loetmichel> GridCube: i have no intention to use unity, so i cant use gtk3, or am i in error?
[16:08] <Loetmichel> i just wnat to have sound out of the gaming box there, with out a shell and usung alsamixer every time
[16:08] <GridCube> Loetmichel, gtk3 indicators are shared from unity we want them or not
[16:08] <GridCube> Loetmichel, if you follow that tutorial you can get fully functional gtk3 indicators back to xfce gtk2 panels
[16:09] <GridCube> Loetmichel, also you can simply create a launcher for pavucontrol if you just need that
[16:09] <Loetmichel> to be honest i just want the indicarots to work. which version is not my concern
[16:09] <GridCube> thats the easiest fastest way to get audio management back
[16:10] <Loetmichel> if i rad corractly the problem goes deeper, the icvons for audio in "preferences" menu are missing also
[16:10] <GridCube> Loetmichel, again, gtk3 vs gtk2
[16:13] <Loetmichel> i will read into it.
[17:14] <HiddenDjinn> ok, i'm not sure whether i should raise this here or in server, so here goes: trying to use a vps as a socks5 proxy...getting connection reset every time i try to access a page
[17:15] <HiddenDjinn> any advice?
[17:58] <xubuntu100> Hello. My Xubuntu 13.10 suspends when I close my laptop lid, even though in the power options I have that switched off.
[17:58] <xubuntu100> It did not do this prior to the upgrade in 13.04.
[18:02] <jaygatsby7> just tried mine too.  never noticed
[18:02] <jaygatsby7> bug
[18:03] <xubuntu100> It is somewhat annoying, any suggestion for a workaround?
[18:04] <xubuntu100> pms
[18:04] <xubuntu100> I never suspend, so I could disable the executable for it somehow?
[18:04] <xubuntu100> pm-suspend?
[18:07] <xubuntu100> Ah, already filed, so I need do nothing: 862813
[18:08] <xubuntu100> Thanks jaygatsby7.


[06:29] <praisethemoon> guess who went to job early today
[06:38] <praisethemoon> elacheche: this is what I was talking about yesteday http://imgur.com/a/IiGX1
[07:49] <Chikore> !Morning
[07:50] <praisethemoon> Chikore: morning
[07:59] <pavlushka> morning everyone!
[08:20] <praisethemoon> pavlushka: hey!
[08:20] <praisethemoon> how is it going my friend
[08:21] <pavlushka> a little busy but without money :p
[08:24] <praisethemoon> pavlushka: aw man
[08:24] <praisethemoon> that's taugh
[08:24] <pavlushka> yeah, very !
[08:25] <praisethemoon> what do you do in life?
[08:28] <elacheche> loool praisethemoon :D
[08:28] <elacheche> Morning folks :)
[08:28] <praisethemoon> morning elacheche!
[08:29] <praisethemoon> how are you today?
[08:29] <elacheche> I can see that not only Linux hates C++ x)
[08:29] <elacheche> Need more sleep x)
[08:29] <praisethemoon> elacheche: aww yeah
[08:29] <praisethemoon> did you deal with yesterday pirates?
[08:29] <praisethemoon> did you teach them a lesson?
[08:31] <elacheche> I'm not sure that my server was really compromised.. OVH said so, I don't find traces in the logs (many of them).. I'll just start restricting (very) the access on that server..
[08:32] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: I am involved in our Family business, mostly working under my dad's command :)
[08:34] <praisethemoon> elacheche: is this the DDos attack coming from insecure IoT cameras?
[08:34] <praisethemoon> pavlushka: what kind of business does your family run?
[08:38] <elacheche> praisethemoon: Not really, but it can be related to an other kind of attacks related to OVH..
[08:38] <praisethemoon> I heard ovh is now facing the biggest ddos attack ever, though these cameras :X
[08:39] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: we have a small tea farm, and some small establishments lend to people as stores and I help him in his reporting as a Local Journalist :)
[08:40] <praisethemoon> pavlushka: oh that's nice!
[08:40] <praisethemoon> we wont have a cup of coffe then
[08:40] <praisethemoon> we'll have a cup of team \o/
[08:40] <praisethemoon> it's been decided
[08:41] <pavlushka> lol, sure
[08:41] <praisethemoon> it has been decided*
[08:41] <praisethemoon> <3
[08:42] <praisethemoon> do you have any plans of coming to tunisia?
[08:56] <elacheche> Yo Naeil marwen__ :)
[08:57] <marwen__> hi elacheche
[08:57] <elacheche> praisethemoon: You that I'm a lazy guy, do you? And after all you're the Lua Expert in here :p Do you have any idea if there is a lua alternative to Flask (a py web microframework)
[08:59] <Naeil> o/
[08:59] <Naeil> I am very interested to learn Lua
[08:59] <elacheche> Naeil: praisethemoon is creating a new programming language based on lua :D
[09:00] <Naeil> praisethemoon, have you any recommendations to begin with?
[09:00] <Naeil> aw that's awesome! :D
[09:00] <elacheche> praisethemoon: Naeil is an other guy in here that you can easly "ittala3hélou" to test and learn a new thing x)
[09:01] <Naeil> hahahha :D
[09:03] <praisethemoon> xDDDDDD
[09:03] <praisethemoon> sure
[09:04] <praisethemoon> Naeil: do you code in lua?
[09:07] <elacheche> praisethemoon: You're the only one I know and use lua often x)
[09:07] <praisethemoon> elacheche: does that make me special?
[09:07] <praisethemoon> xDDD
[09:08] <praisethemoon> So, lua is a must to know language, it is a very well deisgned and crafted piece of software
[09:09] <praisethemoon> It's so well designed that it does not require any additional depencies other then standard C library
[09:09] <praisethemoon> It can easily interface with C
[09:10] <praisethemoon> I once ported a Wiimote C API to Lua
[09:10] <praisethemoon> and made games using the Wii remote
[09:10] <praisethemoon> using Lua
[09:10] <praisethemoon> LuaJIT makes it even more awesome
[09:11] <praisethemoon> faster than any other language, except raw language like C, but pretty much comparable!
[09:12] <praisethemoon> I wrote game in lua using http://love2d.org
[09:16] <Naeil> praisethemoon, no but I want to learn it :D cause I use Awesome WM daily so I would be happy if I know what I am modifying in the config files
[09:17] <praisethemoon> any application that needs to maintain minimal dependencies and runtime overhead would use lua :)
[09:17] <praisethemoon> and I am sure that the application can be scripting from Lua
[09:17] <praisethemoon> learning lua is easy
[09:17] <praisethemoon> you simple
[09:17] <praisethemoon> simply*
[09:17] <praisethemoon> have to
[09:18] <praisethemoon> JUST .. DO IIITTT
[09:18] <Naeil> haha :D great advice to such a lazy boy like me x)
[09:19] <praisethemoon> i am imaginning my self hosting some workshops and speaking on some confs xDDDDD
[09:22] <elacheche> Mornign nizarus :)
[09:22] <nizarus> morning elacheche
[09:22] <nizarus> alors pas trops de dégats avec la pluie ?
[09:22] <Naeil> o/ nizarus
[09:23] <nizarus> ahla Naeil & all
[09:23] <elacheche> praisethemoon: you didn't answered my question about flask alternatives :)
[09:24] <elacheche> Nope nizarus :) It's OK I made it home x) :d
[09:24] <Naeil> nizarus, I am a little curious about SFD this year, I didn't saw any mail from CLibre's ML talking about organizing it
[09:24] <Naeil> Is there any problems?
[09:24] <praisethemoon> uhhm, what flask? :3
[09:25] <elacheche> praisethemoon: a web microframework based on py
[09:25] <Naeil> praisethemoon, http://flask.pocoo.org/
[09:25] <praisethemoon> oh right! hold on
[09:26] <praisethemoon> elacheche: something like .. this ? http://leafo.net/lapis/ :D
[09:27] <praisethemoon> btw Moonscript, is a language that compiles to lua
[09:28] <elacheche> I'll see.. i have a big load on my machine bcause of a HD shrinking, I need to wait minutes until I can see that x)
[09:28] <praisethemoon> xD alright
[09:29] <elacheche> awesome ! :D I like it x)
[09:30] <nizarus> Naeil, je suis comme toi ! je suis pas dans l'équipe d'organisation cette année et j'ai pas plus d'informations :/ c'est vrai que la nouvelle équipe ne communique pas convenablement !
[09:32] <Naeil> ah, okay nizarus
[09:49] <praisethemoon> i remember writing a lua presentation once
[09:49] <praisethemoon> let me see
[09:53] <praisethemoon> nah they are bad
[09:53] <praisethemoon> i'll rewrite them ..
[09:53] <praisethemoon> just for you guys
[09:53] <praisethemoon> :')
[10:01] <elacheche> Cool praisethemoon :D
[10:02] <praisethemoon> <3
[10:49] <Naeil> praisethemoon, I assume you are using awesome wm?
[10:49] <praisethemoon> nah ^^
[10:50] <praisethemoon> i have been on windows recently
[10:50] <Naeil> ah okay
[13:00] <praisethemoon> GUESS WHOS BACK
[13:07] <elacheche> The lua ninja :p
[13:08] <praisethemoon> elacheche: good one!
[13:08] <praisethemoon> :D
[13:21] <elacheche> :D
[14:51] <praisethemoon> elacheche: how do i contact a freenode guy to get a cloak?
[14:55] <elacheche> join #freenode
[14:56] <elacheche> praisethemoon: come there is an op online x)
[15:04] <elacheche> praisethemoon: join #freenode
[15:04] <elacheche> praisethemoon_:  come there is an op online x)
[15:04] <pavlushka> hey praisethemoon_, why you got a tail? do a "/j #freenode" :)
[15:06] <pavlushka> Hey Naeil , how is it going?
[15:06] <Naeil> hello pavlushka :D fine ty, yourself?
[15:07] <pavlushka> me fine, I need to produce a test case on a bug.
[15:07]  * pavlushka clicking his finger and thinking
[15:12] <praisethemoon> pavlushka: didn't notice it xd
[15:12] <praisethemoon> i'm identified now
[15:12] <praisethemoon> no one shall steal my identity
[15:12] <praisethemoon> MUAHAHAHAHAHA
[15:15] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: say hi in #freenode, lets see :)
[15:17] <elacheche>  --> | praisethemoon (~quassel@unaffiliated/praisethemoon) has joined #freenode
[15:18] <elacheche> :)
[15:18] <praisethemoon> pavlushka ,elacheche thank you .. <3
[15:19]  * praisethemoon <3 you all
[15:19] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: yw :p
[15:19] <praisethemoon> xD
[15:19] <praisethemoon> q:
[15:20] <pavlushka> ha ha ha
[15:20] <elacheche> :)
[15:23] <praisethemoon> xD
[16:05] <praisethemoon> elacheche: this might interest you http://openresty.org/en/
[16:05] <praisethemoon> lapis, the lua web framework uses it
[16:07] <elacheche> awesome
[16:38] <praisethemoon> think i'm gonna use it for a new project as well ..
[16:38] <praisethemoon> elacheche: can you measure a website/server security?
[16:39] <praisethemoon> like ethical hacking to measure security stength
[16:39] <praisethemoon> ofc with the owner being aware of that
[16:40] <elacheche> You can pentest it.. I have no idea how really people do that.. I'm an infosec n00b :/
[16:41] <elacheche> I just try to protect my servers using the right fw rules and user priv
[16:42] <praisethemoon> oh ^^ alright :)
[16:42] <praisethemoon> well you have to be noob at something so you can be pro at something else :D
[16:48] <elacheche> praisethemoon: "you have to be noob at something so you can be n00b++ at something else"
[16:49] <praisethemoon> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[16:49] <praisethemoon> good one!
[16:49] <praisethemoon> i have some good news for me :')
[16:50] <praisethemoon> So this is my first month at work
[16:50] <praisethemoon> and it was paid like 270dt, got paid yesterday
[16:51] <praisethemoon> and my boss just talked with me, he said he was surprised with my motivation and that i'm officially in starting from next month
[16:51] <praisethemoon> and i'll get also paid for sept, with the difference of my new salary
[16:52] <praisethemoon> :')
[16:52] <praisethemoon> i'm gonna cry
[16:52] <praisethemoon> :'(
[16:55] <elacheche> Congrats :) :) :) :)
[16:57] <praisethemoon> thank you elacheche <3 ..
[16:59] <praisethemoon> i'm going home now, ttyl
[17:29] <amtn> hi all !
[17:35] <Naeil> hello amtn
[17:37] <amtn> Naeil: salam
[17:38] <Naeil> salam amtn, it is your 1st time here I think? Feel comfortable and welcome :D
[17:39] <amtn> Naeil: thank you :D
[17:40] <amtn> but my english is very low
[17:41] <Naeil> Feel free to talk in French, Arabic or whatever you want :D
[17:41] <amtn> good..
[17:41] <amtn> i prefer to use arabic
[17:44] <Naeil> okay, I am sorry I don't have the AR Layout in my keyboard so it is a little struggle to write Arabic words
[17:44] <amtn> vous avez un connaissance en les records DNS?
[17:45] <Naeil> A little bit amtn but ask your question directly and if there is any one in the channel here would help, he/she will answer
[17:46] <elacheche> Encore des problèmes avec les MX amtn ? Ou SPF/DKIM?
[17:46] <elacheche> salam :)
[17:46] <amtn> un serveur mail a-t-il besaoin d'un enregistrement type A
[17:46] <elacheche> amtn: OUI et NON :D
[17:46] <amtn> elacheche: hier j'ai reçu une bonne note dnas mail-tester: 8.6/10
[17:47] <amtn> :D
[17:47] <amtn> Mais je dois comprendre ce que je fais
[17:47] <elacheche> Le serveur mail lui même utilise des MX.. tu peux utiliser que les IP pour les MX.. Mais les anti spams vont te donner une mauvaise note si y a pas de A..
[17:48] <elacheche> Alors c'est mieux de pointer le MX vers un A (un A doit être pointer que vers un IP)
[17:48] <amtn> On suppose l'existance de sous-domaines eux aussi avec serveurs mail et tout ce qui suit
[17:49] <elacheche> OK.. Et..?
[17:50] <amtn> c a d il est de la bonne pratique de creer en mm temps un enregistrement A pour le serveur mail comme par exemple: mail.domain.com.
[17:50] <amtn> ?
[17:50] <elacheche> Ah! Non.. pas la peine.. Voilà un example..
[17:51] <elacheche> A: domaine.com → <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:51] <elacheche> MX: domaine.com → domaine.com
[17:52] <amtn> clair merci
[17:52] <amtn> autre question svp
[17:52] <elacheche> le MX peut être le même que A ou tu peux utiliser autre chose si t'as pliusers serveurs mails (vps)
[17:52] <amtn> et un record CNAME : mail.domain.com ?
[17:53] <elacheche> ça n'as pas de sense :)
[17:53] <elacheche> je t'explique pourquoi :)
[17:53] <amtn> mail.domain.com.       CNAME     domain.com.
[17:54] <elacheche> En suppose qu'on a un ndd domain.com avec le DNS suivant:
[17:54] <elacheche> domain.com A <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:54] <elacheche> www.domaine.com cname domaine.com
[17:55] <elacheche> anis.domaine.com cname domaine.com
[17:55] <elacheche> domaine.com MX domaine.com
[17:55] <elacheche> mail.domaine.com MX ubuntu.tn
[17:56] <elacheche> Dans l'example.. le ndd point vers le serveru avec l'IP <IP_ADDRESS>.. je veux avoir des sous domaines lier à ce ndd alors je peux créer d'autre champs A ou je peux utiliser CNAME..
[17:57] <elacheche> l'avantage ici est lorsque je change A vers <IP_ADDRESS> les sos domaine pointent aussi vers la nouvelle IP
[17:57] <elacheche> par contre si j'utilise des A pour créet des sous domaine, lorsque je change l'ip de mon serveur je dois changer les DNS un par un
[17:58] <amtn> oui ceci je le comprends... mé je trouve sur internet des exemples de type:
[17:58] <elacheche> C'est pratique lorsque mon domaine est distribuer sur plusiuers machine
[17:58] <amtn> mail.domain.com. cname domain.com.
[17:58] <elacheche> les champs MX ne sont pas accessible via web, suel les serveur/client mails les utilise
[17:59] <amtn> mé.. attends stp....
[17:59] <elacheche> Lorsque je lis ça "mail.domain.com. cname domain.com." je comprend que ce serveur à un client mail WEB disponible en HTTP :)
[17:59] <amtn> je veux dire par un sous domaine, un autre site concret
[17:59] <elacheche> comme roundcube :)
[17:59] <elacheche> à la place d'utiliser thunderbird, on peut avoir un client web sur notre serveur :)
[18:00] <amtn> elacheche: pour moi, oui c'est le cas: usermin
[18:00] <elacheche> j'aime pas usermin.. je préfere roundcube :)
[18:00] <amtn> bien que je peux utiliser mon client thunderbird
[18:01] <elacheche> je peux partager mon cas avec virtualmin..
[18:01] <amtn> bon.. ça c'est autre chose
[18:02] <elacheche> j'ia partager ça en privé x)
[18:03] <elacheche> je pveux pas que ça reste dans le log publique :)
[18:03] <elacheche> maintenant je peux utiliser un client mail à la place de thunderbird :)
[18:04] <elacheche> je dois rentrer chez moi, on parle dans 2h si je te trouve ici :)
[18:04]  * elacheche BRB
[18:36] <praisethemoon> GUESS WHOS BACK
[19:41]  * elacheche is back :)
[20:04] <praisethemoon> elacheche: welcome back :')
[20:04]  * praisethemoon is happy \o/
[20:54]  * elacheche is not very happy with his home internet
[21:43] <praisethemoon> awww
[21:43] <praisethemoon> elacheche: did you try lapis?
[21:43] <praisethemoon> gonna try it right now :D
[21:57] <praisethemoon> it's so easy to install on ubuntu :D
[21:57] <praisethemoon> you need to install luarocks first, which kinda like pip? for python
[23:08] <praisethemoon> elacheche: i'm working on the lua presentation, but i'm overly tired, i'll finish it tomorrow
[23:08] <praisethemoon> have a good night and good weekend everyone


[00:00] <holstein> auburtic: cheers! ...if you want, you can use tab complete in here... you can type hol and hit tab.. that will complete my nick.. you can type sol and tab and complete solarix1578.. *or* discover that the user has already left the channel
[00:09] <auburtic> holstein: right, discover? how?
[00:12] <holstein> auburtic: by typing "sol" and hitting tab and seeing that the nick does *not* complete, thus meaning the user is gone.. no worries, im just trying to save you some time. glad to have folks helping out
[00:13] <auburtic> ooooo I see
[00:13] <auburtic> I'm tired
[00:13] <auburtic>
[00:13] <auburtic> szczur - stlsaint - Sentynel - schmidtm - SAKKE_ -
[00:14] <auburtic> thx for helping crippled people
[00:14] <holstein> auburtic: also, i wouldnt ping randomly other users
[00:15] <auburtic> ^ does the above thing ping them?
[00:15] <auburtic> or it need ":"
[00:15] <auburtic> lol sorry to the *s*'s
[00:15] <holstein> yup.. again, no worries... /join the #lubuntu-offtopic channel and we can discuss more
[00:16] <auburtic> yep maybe later
[01:31] <Ririshi> Hi
[01:31] <Ririshi> Is it possible to get the ubuntu terminal in lubuntu?
[01:33] <auburtic> Ririshi: whats wrong with LXTerminal?
[01:33] <Ririshi> I don't like the look :p
[01:34] <Ririshi> oh wow i can customize it xD
[01:34] <Ririshi> I'm sorry, I'll take a look at that first, then :D
[01:46] <Ririshi> bah
[01:47] <Ririshi> I can't get the colors like the ubuntu terminal xD
[01:49] <Ririshi> Any suggestions on stuff I've got to have?
[01:54] <Ririshi> uhh.. the taskbar stopped responding and is now gone..
[01:54] <Ririshi> what to do? >.<
[01:54] <Ririshi> I've got one terminal opened
[01:54] <Ririshi> and this chromium browser..
[01:55] <Ririshi> Someone here?
[01:56] <auburtic> right-click > preference > bg color
[01:57] <Ririshi> and then?
[01:57] <auburtic> anyway lubuntu is not for customization, is you want that use ubuntu
[01:57] <Ririshi> ok
[01:58] <Ririshi> I was like: lubuntu is light so i'll use that..
[01:58] <Ririshi> because this netbook isn't that good ;p
[01:58] <inductiveload> Ririshi: you can set fore and background color in lxterminal
[01:59] <inductiveload> do what auburtic said: the foreground color is your text and the background is your background
[02:00] <Ririshi> I know :D did you read my other problem? :p
[02:00] <Ririshi> My taskbar is gone, as the preferences window stopped working..
[02:00] <auburtic> man if I set my nicj to "i" I would get pinged everytime no?
[02:03] <inductiveload> ok
[02:03] <inductiveload> ctrl-alt-t to get a terminal
[02:04] <inductiveload> then "lxpanel --profile Lubuntu &"
[02:04] <inductiveload> that should get your taskbar back
[02:05] <Ririshi> thanks
[02:06] <Ririshi> as soon as i close that terminal, the bar disappears again..
[02:07] <inductiveload> "disown lxpanel" after the first command
[02:09] <Ririshi> ok
[02:10] <Ririshi> thank you :D
[02:11] <inductiveload> np :-)
[02:13] <Ririshi> Even more questions :p Is it possible to make chromium automatically scroll when I'm on freenode IRC? Because it's very annoying to scroll everytime I or someone else says something
[02:14] <inductiveload> why not use pidgin?
[02:15] <Ririshi> idk xD didn't think of that :D
[02:16] <Ririshi> installing ubuntu-desktop takes a long time lol
[02:16] <Ririshi> Just installing, then thinking I don't like it lolz
[02:17] <Ririshi> err.. i started pidgin, but the windows are grey? lol
[02:21] <inductiveload> Ririshi: have to added an irc account?
[02:22] <inductiveload> * you
[02:22] <Ririshi> I started it for the first time.. and the buddy list and the accounts windows are both grey..
[02:23] <inductiveload> and can you add an account?
[02:23] <Ririshi> I don't think so.. nothing but greyness in there..
[02:24] <inductiveload> no menubar?
[02:25] <Ririshi> lol it's been running for about 10 mins and now "ubuntu" says that it has closed unexpectedly..
[02:27] <Ririshi> ok it says welcome to pidgin now :D
[02:28] <Ririshi> the password is server password or the pass of my username?
[02:28] <inductiveload> the password is the password you use to identify yourelf to the IRC services
[02:28] <inductiveload> if you don't identify, then you don't need it
[02:29] <Ririshi> ok ill quit here
[02:29] <Ririshi> then ill come online via pidgin
[02:29] <Ririshi> brb
[02:30] <Ririshi> HIya
[02:31] <Ririshi> HI
[02:31] <Ririshi> Hi*
[02:31] <inductiveload> Ririshi: hello again
[02:32] <Ririshi> I closed pidgin accidentally lol
[02:33] <Ririshi> Wait Imma relog on my laptop
[02:33] <Ririshi> brb
[03:35] <Ririshi> Hi
[03:35] <Ririshi> I accidentally removed the power  button from the taskbar.. is there a way to get it back? ^-^ I shouldn't mess with this so much >.<
[03:47] <devlos> Ririshi- right click the panel, select 'panel settings', select 'panel applets', select the bottom 'Application launch bar', and then edit, if no application launch bar then make a new one and edit, and add shut down or logout from system tools dropdown.
[03:48] <devlos> Ririshi
[04:32] <Ririshi> sory
[04:33] <Ririshi> my sound was turned down and i was busy
[04:41] <Ririshi> hey
[04:41] <Ririshi> who told me to take the shutdown or logout from the system tools thing?
[04:42] <Ririshi> it doesn't show up
[06:04] <Ririshi> Hi
[06:05] <Ririshi> I've got a S3 Chrome9 HC iGP in my netbook. Are there any special drivers for those things? And when searching for drivers, where should I search?
[06:06] <mystdaren> go to preferences-> additional drivers and extra drivers should show up
[06:06] <Ririshi> ok.
[06:06] <mystdaren> and go to their website and see if they have linux drivers as well if that doesn't work
[06:07] <Ririshi> err.. additional drivers doesn't show up in menu > preferences > ...
[07:25] <Noskcaj> why are all the "penguin"/pre-installed games described as solitare by the software centers?
[10:58] <Ririshi> Hi!
[11:01] <Ririshi> I've got a HP Mini 2133 and I'm trying to install the VIA drivers for the Chrome9 HC IGP it has on Lubuntu 12.10. I downloaded the tgz file and used tar and I'm trying to run vinstall, but I get an error. make.log tells me it's got an error 1 and then an error 2.. Help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:30] <fennng> How to quit X from lubuntu
[11:30] <fennng> Help! How to quit X? anything like killall gdm in ubuntu?
[11:49] <poq> Hi guys
[11:50] <poq> Want to update packages in UCK for Lubuntu 12.04 LTS and get some errors => http://paste.kde.org/633668/ What could be a reason?
[13:11] <ctrlz> hi! is this the right chat for help about lubuntu?
[13:30] <juland> yes
[13:30] <nortti> ctrlz: what is your problem?
[13:42] <ctrlz> Skype webcam is upside down. I use Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd
[13:43] <ctrlz> already tried this with no success https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_U36SD#Webcam_issue
[19:26] <mohsen_> hello :)
[19:26] <mohsen_> is there anyone ?
[19:27] <holstein> mohsen_: sure.. just ask and if one of the volunteers can help, they will
[19:27] <mohsen_> i've completed the Arabic translation of pcmanfm , where can i submit it?
[19:29] <holstein> mohsen_: not sure.. i would /join #lubuntu-offtopic and the mailing lists for lubuntu, maybe lxde and the pcmanfm team and/or debian.. try submitting upstream
[19:31] <mohsen_> i mailed lxde mailing lists but nobody reply :(
[19:31] <mohsen_> also pootle site is down
[19:33] <mohsen_> can you help me please :D i don't know how to submit upstream
[19:34] <holstein> mohsen_: i wont be able to help you submit it anywhere.. i would give the lxde team a week+ to respond
[19:34] <holstein> i would try contacting someone involved in debian
[19:34] <mohsen_> ok ^_^
[20:00] <jarnos> When I resume from suspend, I see some text in screen for short time. Is that stored in some log file?
[20:02] <holstein> jarnos: i see text like that, and im not worried.. are you wanting to troubleshoot it as an error?
[20:05] <jarnos> holstein, I suspect that it is related to USB DVB-T tuner not working after resume (until reconnected).
[20:06] <holstein> jarnos: i dont have that. i just have a netbook... you can unplug the device, and wake it and see
[20:42] <MangoBoy> Hi. im thinking of upgrading from 11.04 to 12.04 lts what problems can i expect and will all my programs still be there after i upgrade trough update manager
[20:50] <holstein> MangoBoy: i would reinstall..
[20:50] <holstein> MangoBoy: depends n the programs.. shouldnt be a big deal
[20:51] <MangoBoy> holstein,  Why reinstall?
[20:51] <holstein> MangoBoy: its a preference
[20:51] <holstein> MangoBoy: you cant upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04
[20:52] <MangoBoy> I have so lot of programs so it would take to looong / no?
[20:52] <holstein> you upgrade 11.10 to 11.10 to 12.04.. in that amount of time, i could probably install 12.04 fresh 5 or 6 times
[20:55] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, he can upgrade to 11.10 and have that for another 4 months.
[20:55] <TheLordOfTime> then decide to reinstall/upgrade.
[20:55] <holstein> sure
[20:56] <TheLordOfTime> that's what i'd recommend at least in the immediate
[20:57] <TheLordOfTime> and then download/test a 12.04 live disk or something
[21:01] <MangoBoy> Ok it said upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 LTS in the update manager so i should probably don't use that button :) but how do i update to 11.10 simplest way?
[21:01] <MangoBoy> Lubuntu!
[21:01] <TheLordOfTime> it says "Ubuntu" but it means Lubuntu :p
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> shouldn't do-release-upgrade via terminal put him on 11.10...?
[21:02] <MangoBoy> it says 12.04 LTS
[21:03] <MangoBoy> 11.10 is what i want now, just to be inside suported :)
[21:07] <MangoBoy> TheLordOfTime, So it will not kick me of to latest release?
[21:09] <MangoBoy> I meen it does't
[21:10] <MangoBoy> install all programs anew does it?
[21:14] <holstein> i *always* fresh install
[21:25] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not sure, but i usually fresh install
[21:26] <holstein> i like to test the live CD
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[21:29] <MangoBoy> is there a way to dump a list of all programs installed that one can use to reinstall al of them after a fresh install
[21:30] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all. I'm installing lubuntu 12.10 32-bit on a Duron 1500 machine and I'm having problems with the graphical installer. After some time, it closes and, when I execute ubiquity on terminal to see what makes it crash, it prints a message "Ilegal instruction"
[21:30] <leandrosansilva> is it possible to use the old terminal-based installer?
[21:31] <leandrosansilva> those one which was available from "alternate" cd?
[21:33] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ lists alterantes
[21:34] <leandrosansilva> ok, in this case I have to download another image, etc. I'd like to know if it's possible to call that installer from the terminal. Something like ubiquity --frontend=terminal
[21:34] <leandrosansilva> because I don't know if the crash I get is because of the graphical installer
[21:35] <leandrosansilva> I tried to search for similar problems in the internet, but I couldn't find anything useful
[21:38] <leandrosansilva> so I don't know if tthis is a problem in ubiquity or in my machine
[21:39] <holstein> leandrosansilva: how does the live CD work on your hardware?
[21:42] <leandrosansilva> yes, it does
[21:43] <leandrosansilva> I'm using the 12.10 livecd
[21:43] <leandrosansilva> in fact from a usb flash drive
[21:43] <leandrosansilva> but the installer crashes in a specific point of the instalation
[21:43] <leandrosansilva> it as soon the slide show starts
[21:43] <leandrosansilva> after some seconcs, in fact
[21:46] <holstein> i would test the installation media, and the hard drive and the ram
[21:48] <leandrosansilva> ok, that's a possibility
[21:48] <leandrosansilva> I'll try this
[23:54] <Noskcaj> who runs the lubuntudesktop twitter page, it has only had 5 posts this year?
[23:55] <holstein> Noskcaj: it should say who the maintainer is.. maybe message them via twitter and volunteer to help if thats what you are suggesting
[23:56] <Noskcaj> holstein, pretty much, i will find the maintainer thing now, @lubuntulinux has a heap more tweats
[23:57] <Noskcaj> it doesn't say, and since all of it's older posts (it was active till august) are labeled "lubuntu screencast" it might be a bot
[23:58] <holstein> could be


[02:32] <ludmil> hi, how do i set a program to start automatically when mythbuntu loads and logged in? i need to start azureus, so i can controll it with the web ui
[02:42] <dagar> will hardy get 0.22 packages when it's released?
[02:43] <tgm4883> dagar, no
[02:43] <tgm4883> hardy doesn't have a new enough QT to support 0.22
[02:44] <dagar> hmm
[04:24] <FisherPrice70> My remote has stopped working since the latest update What's happened??????
[04:49] <FisherPrice70> My mceusb remote has stopped working since I did an update this morning
[05:34] <tgm4883> FisherPrice70, maybe restart the frontend?
[05:34] <FisherPrice70> did that many times
[05:34] <FisherPrice70> it's something to do with lirc
[05:34] <FisherPrice70> mode2 works
[05:35] <FisherPrice70> but lirc doesn't
[05:35] <FisherPrice70> when I run irw nothing happens when I press buttons
[05:35] <FisherPrice70> could there be a modprobe I need to do since the upgrade?
[05:36] <FisherPrice70> my remote is a mceusb2
[05:47] <tgm4883> FisherPrice70, dmesg errors?
[05:48] <FisherPrice70> none
[05:49] <FisherPrice70> when I do dmesg |grep lirc
[05:49] <tgm4883> anything in syslog?
[05:50] <FisherPrice70> could not get file information for /dev/lirc0
[05:51] <FisherPrice70> lircd-0.8.4a[8338]: Failed to initialize hardware
[05:52] <tgm4883> FisherPrice70, what release of mythbuntu?
[05:52] <FisherPrice70> jaunty
[05:53] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:53] <tgm4883> FisherPrice70, when did you update?
[05:53] <FisherPrice70> this morning
[05:54] <tgm4883> trunk or -fixes?
[05:54] <FisherPrice70> just fixes
[05:54] <FisherPrice70> I'm cutting edge, but not that far
[05:54] <FisherPrice70> could not get file information for /dev/lirc0
[05:54] <tgm4883> sec, I just updated my system
[05:54] <FisherPrice70> but /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist
[05:54] <tgm4883> did you restart afterwards?
[05:55] <FisherPrice70> yup
[05:55] <tgm4883> ok
[05:55] <FisherPrice70> even unplugged the sucker
[05:55] <tgm4883> try doing a modprobe of lirc_mceusb2
[05:58] <FisherPrice70> no...
[05:58] <FisherPrice70> a person has suggested that I do  sudo mknod /dev/lirc0 61 0
[05:58] <FisherPrice70> mknod /dev/lirc0 c 61 0
[06:02] <tgm4883> FisherPrice70, works fine here
[06:03] <tgm4883> ii  lirc                0.8.4a-0ubuntu5
[06:03] <tgm4883> same remote
[06:03] <FisherPrice70> KOOL, I needed to do that and chmod 666 /dev/lirc0
[06:03] <FisherPrice70> now it workds
[06:03] <FisherPrice70> now it works
[06:04] <FisherPrice70> but why did I have to do this in the first place?
[06:04]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[07:03] <FisherPrice70> !bug
[07:03] <FisherPrice70> !help
[07:03] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[07:03] <FisherPrice70> !status
[07:03] <Zinn> I am alive.
[07:58] <dserban_> why is it that when I throw in a dvd... I get a message in mythbuntu that it failed to mount "dvdname"... mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected etc etc...  oooohhh.. maybe if I check fstab
[12:50] <gunni> I got some problems running 0.22 weekly build. I uninstalled, reinstalled frontend and mythtv-common, because of some dependency problems while installing (theme related). Now i got no OSD in media. On my other machine everything is fine. I tried changing the theme and rendermethod but nothing works. Is there a chance to find out whats wrong? I mentioned, that GANT theme is missing. Is this correct, or may this be the reason?
[12:56] <gunni> The only osd that is working is the menu, but everything else like info, progressbar, pause osd is not
[13:18] <wombo_> yeah I think there where problems
[13:18] <wombo_> try updating again aftermidnight GMT
[14:50] <superm1> the latest build shuffled a whole bunch of themes around
[14:50] <superm1> the next one should be fine
[15:09] <MythbuntuGuest48> Hello everyone, I have a quick question regarding the weekly builds and plugins.  It doesn't look like Mythstream or Mythmovies are in the repository for 9.04 jaunty.  I have universe and multiverse enabled on the main repositories.  Is there another repository I need to add?
[15:22] <squidly> MythbuntuGuest48: mythstream is does not work correctly anymore AFAIK, looks like mythmovies may have been missed
[15:22] <squidly> actually I see it now
[15:22] <squidly> so mythmovies should work
[15:23] <squidly> apt-get install mythmovies
[15:23] <squidly> are you using -turnk or -fixes?
[18:37] <orificium_> Something wrong with the latest auto-builds?  I'm getting "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.22.0~trunk21765-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/MythCenter-wide/ui/background.png', which is also in package mythtv-theme-mythcenter-wide"
[18:38] <orificium_> and t leaves me with broken packages
[18:42] <tgm4883> orificium, yea, they will be fixed in about 6 hours
[18:44] <orificium_> the details show dependency issues.  I was gonna put it up on pastebin, but it looks like those issues have been fixed?
[19:24] <chris|> hi guys. Quick question, does mythbuntu have any support to work as a pulseaudio sound server oob?
[20:23] <tgm4883> chris|, IIRC, mythtv does not work with pulseaudio, you have to disable it
[20:38] <Keli> Just installed Mythbuntu 9,04 and selected proprietary Nvidia graphics driver, X wouldn't start after boot, complaining about missing symbol AllocateScreenPrivateIndex referenced by nvidia_drv
[21:12] <chris|> tgm4883, I've noticed the pulseaudio client package is installed by default on mythbuntu. does this mean it can work with a remote pulseaudio server?


[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:54] <oerheks> 2 covid programs as of yesterday, https://snapcraft.io/covidgame and https://snapcraft.io/notus
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:35] <ducasse> good morning
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> Deano59: i know a lot of them
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> Deano59: please dont use the support channel for bloat
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> hey
[13:00]  * lotuspsychje hides
[13:05]  * daftykins hides behind lotuspsychje
[13:06] <marcoagpinto> it is me, the demon
[13:06] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[13:09] <MuertoLives1> Good morning
[13:09] <marcoagpinto> I can't focus much today... I am under pressure for some reason
[13:10] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> hi MuertoLives1
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: lower the cola dose, calm down and live longer :p
[13:10] <MuertoLives1> hows everything your world
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> all good on planet earth
[13:11] <MuertoLives1> awesome, it is a beautiful day here in Orlando
[17:23] <marcoagpinto> "Woe to you, oh earth and sea. For the Devil sends the beast with wrath. Because he knows the time is short"
[17:24]  * sarnold hides his pepsi
[17:27] <marcoagpinto> :)
[18:17]  * Eickmeyer doesn't have any cola atm, feels safe


[01:18] <wgrant> cjwatson: I wonder if it's worth eliminating the bugsummary temporary journal.
[01:19] <wgrant> (currently the bugsummary maintenance triggers write everything to a temporary journal table, then flush the aggregate of that temporary table to the main journal table, which is then rolled up into the non-journal table by garbo-frequently)
[01:20] <wgrant> The implementation means that will be rather noisy (usually changes are implemented by subtracting the bug from all summaries to which it is relevant, making the change, then adding the bug back... so lots of writes)