[05:48] <Nailor> Raskall: Though, the company I'm working atm was founded by two guys while they worked in a company developing linux firewalls
[05:49] <scorp82> umask=000 gives a bit too wide authorizations...??
[05:49] <rendo> Is there a channel dedicated to wine and linux games on this server?
[05:49] <Vixus> probably
[05:49] <yukonho> Hi everyone, I have a real newbie question about installing 5.10 on a PC that already has Windows ME --- The partitioner in the installation runs into a problem when it is trying to resize the existing partition.  There's about 25GB free on a 40 GB hd, and I'm only trying to resize the partition to 30GB.  Manually editing the partition table doesn't work either.  Should I try this GParted program I've heard about?
[05:49] <Healot> scorp82: wayy too, it makes the access as world writable
[05:49] <Vixus> rendo: Oh, you mean running games on wine?
[05:49] <Ayabara> Are there mplayer hotkeys for sizing window to half, normal and double size?
[05:49] <Healot> yukonho: yes
[05:49] <scorp82> yep! any ideas?
[05:49] <rendo> Vixus: Yes, I have a few questions about hardware for gaming in linux.
[05:49] <bibe> yukonho : did you defragment the disk?
[05:49] <Healot> yukonho: if you prefer free tools
[05:50] <unfo|jspiro> Heath_: Control+C has always worked fine for me.
[05:50] <Vixus> yukonho: Look for the linux startup disk, or security disk or something.
[05:50] <Heath_> unfo|jspiro: Thank you
[05:50] <yukonho> bibe: Yep, I defragmented it and cleaned it up the best I could
[05:50] <Healot> scorp82: try umask=0022
[05:51] <Falstius> oprime: you could reinstall apt from the deb file.
[05:51] <yukonho> help
[05:51] <yukonho> Vixus: Is the linux startup disk different than the regular install disc?
[05:51] <Vixus> yukonho: It's a seperate disk, project thing ya
[05:51] <bibe> yukonho : it's a FAT32 partition, I guess
[05:52] <oprime> Falstius: Is it worth the knowledge to do this, or am I better off reinstalling and seeing if it fixes the apt and synaptic problems I'm having.
[05:52] <scorp82> and that allows read and execute for everyone but what I wanna do is make changes by myself but nobody else
[05:52] <rendo> Meh, maybe you guys will know.
[05:53] <emililinux> #historia
[05:53] <scorp82> so I'd need to be the owner
[05:53] <rendo> What's the best graphics card manufacturer that offers the best linux support for games?
[05:53] <Frogzoo> rendo: nvidia
[05:53] <bibe> yukonho : I'd suggest you to use a recent Ubuntu 6.06 beta live cd, it contains a more recent version of partition resizing software
[05:53] <rendo> Thanks.
[05:53] <DianWei> Hey: probably a simple question, so I am sorry to have to ask this but, is there a commandline option I can use to load up a program on a different desktop? Specifically, I always have my web browser and x-chat on one; RSS reader, and e-mail on two, work on three, and audio/video on four. I'd like to know so that I could set it up so that gnome automatically launches these spplications on startup in the right desktop, instead of all of th
[05:53] <DianWei> em on the first desktop.
[05:53] <theripper> ok , i get an error when sudo ndiswrappper "on line 135" which is coulnt copy .inf , why would it not be able to copy it ?
[05:53] <Vixus> yukonho: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[05:53] <yukonho> bibe: Yep, I don't see why it won't resize it.  I only get a message of "not enough free space for installation," which, after the defragmenting and everything, doesn't make too much sense
[05:53] <yukonho> I'm running off the live CD now, is it safe to use GParted here?
[05:53] <scorp82> I tried in the fstab 'user=username' but it didn't work
[05:53] <orbin> yukonho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo tells you what to do if the resizer doesn't work
[05:53] <tubbie> what tool do I use to open dvi files?
[05:53] <Falstius> oprime: I think it is worth it.  And it isn't very difficult.
[05:54] <Frogzoo> rendo: ATI makes good hardware, but the Linux 3D support is crap
[05:54] <oprime> Falstius: Alright, how do I begin?
[05:54] <Ayabara> is it possible to change mplayers hotkeys?
[05:54] <batman> !repositories
[05:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:54] <orbin> tubbie: do an apt search for dvi viewer. there are a few to choose from
[05:55] <rendo> Now beyond the nvidia chipset, what about manufacturers? Or does it really matter in the end?
[05:56] <Falstius> run "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu10_i386.deb" and "sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu10_i386.deb"
[05:57] <Falstius> oprime: it might complain about the package already being installed, then you'll need to give it a switch to override that (I am looking for the switch ... I know it for RPM!)
[05:59] <klausos> i need help with xgl, my window manager don't work
[05:59] <Healot> #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:00] <NoUse> klausos #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions please
[06:01] <loststar4545> if i get a PC with a PCI-E   video card  will  it run fine  with ubuntu
[06:01] <rendo> loststar4545: Yea.
[06:01] <azurehuesofblue> I'm using a quote program and it says I don't have a usable font set, how do I install lots of fonts?
[06:02] <Falstius> oprime: did you try it?
[06:02] <oprime> Falstius: It's saying I already have the newest version. Running an "apt-get install --help" doesn't show me a way of installing it anyway.
[06:03] <disinterested_pe> i know there has to be plugins for all the streamlink stations for firefox so they all work
[06:04] <Falstius> oprime: did you try "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu10_i386.deb" and "sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu10_i386.deb"
[06:04] <oprime> Falstius: Nope, I tried an apt-get on apt, but I found the switch just now, it's --reinstall
[06:05] <ltibor65> Hi! Please, help me! How can I fix the broken packages?
[06:05] <Falstius> oprime: so apt-get install works but apt-get update doesn't?
[06:06] <Healot> ltibor65: "apt-get -f install"
[06:06] <waymon> ltibor65 reinstall
[06:06] <ubuntu> DBO: are you ok?
[06:07] <TeleCon> Who
[06:07] <TeleCon> Whoa, I mean.
[06:07] <oprime> Falstius: "apt-get install" does work. "apt-get update" did not work until I just did the "apt-get install apt --reinstall". Then I tried the update again and yes it worked that time.
[06:07] <corey> anyone use kbear?
[06:08] <theripper> ok , i get an error when sudo ndiswrappper "on line 135" which is coulnt copy .inf , why would it not be able to copy it ?
[06:08] <TeleCon> Anyone know what is going on with the "moved permanently" messages when doing apt-get update|upgrade ?
[06:08] <gary> Probably a little offtopic, but does anyone here have a dual layer dvd writer
[06:08] <TeleCon> gary: I do.
[06:09] <ltibor65> Healot, apt-get -f install does not fix the problem.
[06:09] <oprime> Falstius: Does it matter that I'm using the 64bit version as opposed to i386? (I didn't wget the package you had listed, but would it have made a difference?)
[06:09] <TeleCon> Never written a dual layer dvd though.
[06:09] <Falstius> oprime: yeah, it would have.  I should have asked.
[06:09] <gary> TeleCon: oh right, just wondering if it is worth it, but I doubt it
[06:09] <Manika> while ubuntu is loading, the background color is brown. can I change that?
[06:10] <TeleCon> gary: I got for around $60
[06:10] <Falstius> oprime: dpkg would have probably just failed saying "wrong architecture" though.
[06:10] <Healot> manika, you can install extra GNOME theme or DIY
[06:11] <disinterested_pe> dual layer dvd arent cheap though
[06:11] <ltibor65> waymon, I cannot reinstall the broken packages.
[06:11] <TeleCon> Yeah, the media is still pricey.
[06:11] <disinterested_pe> theyre about twice as expensive as normal ones
[06:12] <ubuntu> DBO: ok  i will put this problem to sleep now and await for a better way forward
[06:12] <blaze> i want someone to help me install my video drivers for ubuntu, because i've asked 3-4 times and nobody helped me :(
[06:13] <oprime> Falstius: So I guess apt is now fixed, now onto trying to remember why I needed it fixed.
[06:13] <blaze> i have the Linux-FBDev-kernel-src_2.6.00.02.tgz file from the via drivers site
[06:13] <ubuntu> Ng: got my other problem sorted although you untar and the howto does not say make and install this is abc in linux is it not
[06:13] <r0xoR> blaze, fbdev? what's that?
[06:14] <r0xoR> blaze, doesn't ubuntu come with vesafb?
[06:14] <blaze> i don't know.. but i want to update my drivers
[06:14] <oprime> Falstius: Thanks for your help. Now onto trying to fix Synaptic. I need to get mp3s to work.
[06:14] <blaze> i have UniChrome Pro 3D/2D integr. in VIA VN800
[06:15] <blaze> and the site is: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[06:15] <woodwizzle> Is dapper still planned for the 1rst?
[06:15] <corey> oprime: search wiki for restricted formats
[06:15] <blaze> r0xoR, can you help me install them?
[06:15] <loststar4545> if i make another user acount on my ubuntu PC would the new  acount be able to use sudo
[06:15] <Falstius> oprime: enable universe in the repository, apt-get update, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad right?
[06:15] <r0xoR> blaze, i need to know your problem and what you're working with: what do you need to accomplish... what hardware do you have inside your computer
[06:15] <Healot> loststar4545, if you assign the user in admin group
[06:16] <northcol> So I just installed Dapper Drake, but I'm having some apt-get troubles. When I try to reload the repositories it appears they've moved. Anyone know where I can get the addresses to fix it?
[06:16] <r0xoR> blaze, answer both those questions and i can probably help you, yes
[06:16] <blaze> ok, r0xoR, so
[06:16] <Falstius> loststar4545: you need to add the new user to the /etc/sudoers file with "sudo visudo"
[06:16] <TeleCon> Is there a dapper channel?
[06:16] <corey> yea thats right fals
[06:16] <corey> Falstius:
[06:16] <blaze> i want to watch movies the same way i watch them in Windows XP
[06:16] <loststar4545> ok thanks
[06:16] <phreeza> blaze: get vlc
[06:16] <blaze> the problem is that when i watch movies with xine, i see squares, that i don't see in windows with bsplayer
[06:17] <Healot> blaze: you can't in GNU/linux unfortunately, no WMP :)
[06:17] <oprime> Falstius: Right. But here's what occurs... "Couldn't stat source package list http://.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:17] <oprime> "
[06:17] <blaze> so when i use vlc, i see the same squares
[06:17] <r0xoR> blaze, hmmm, and you've installed all the proper codecs?
[06:17] <blaze> and.. when i try to change the video driver, that xine is using, to x11, it cannot start at all
[06:17] <blaze> yes, i've installed all the codecs
[06:17] <r0xoR> blaze, btw define movies... do you mean DVDs ?
[06:18] <blaze> no.. xvid
[06:18] <Pupbuntoo> hi, have the repositories for ubuntu 5.10 breezy changed?  my package manager is complaining that they have "moved permanantly"...
[06:18] <loststar4545> if i set a root password  will that change the password i use when doing sudo
[06:18] <r0xoR> ok, that's a DVD ripping format similar to divx no?
[06:18] <blaze> right, it's similar
[06:18] <Falstius> oprime: can you do "ls -lh /var/lib/apt/lists/.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages"
[06:18] <r0xoR> !repositories
[06:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:18] <northcol> Pupbuntoo: I'm getting the same trouble with Dapper (6.06)
[06:18] <r0xoR> Pupbuntoo, try getting the official sources.list and then either apt-get update or refresh in synaptic
[06:19] <corey> yes the resp servers are funked up right now
[06:19] <r0xoR> i have vim7!
[06:19] <r0xoR> :)
[06:19] <blaze> r0xoR, i've told xine to use xshm instead of x11 (the default)
[06:19] <blaze> or xv..
[06:19] <ubuntu> loststar4545: sudo usermod -G admin username
[06:19] <Skipster> is ubuntu an x windows system
[06:19] <r0xoR> blaze, ok you still haven't answered my second question
[06:19] <Falstius> oprime: I see your problem.. you need to edit your sources.list and remove the "." before archives :)
[06:19] <StyXman> hi all. where can I discover which network interfaces (the `virtual ones, like eth*, lo, etc) are available? dmesg reports a eth2, but when I try to ifconfig eth2 up, it says the device does not exist
[06:19] <blaze> so.. let me see :) sec.
[06:20] <blaze> i have UniChrome Pro 3D/2D integr. in VIA VN800
[06:20] <r0xoR> blaze, btw i've never gotten that far into configuring xine so i can only guess at what you're doing (but it's an educated guess)
[06:20] <r0xoR> blaze, uhhh... what's that?
[06:20] <blaze> :) ok
[06:20] <blaze> that is my video card
[06:20] <oprime> Falstius: I'll try that, but even then, everything in the lists directory starts with either security or ubuntu, not archive.
[06:20] <blaze> it is integrated
[06:20] <blaze> (laptop)
[06:20] <cbtg2006> any ldap authentication users in here?
[06:20] <r0xoR> you have a via video card? or that's your chipset on your mobo
[06:20] <phreeza> blaze squares sounds lika a codec problem to me though
[06:20] <r0xoR> ahh integrated
[06:20] <r0xoR> k
[06:20] <Pupbuntoo> northcol: it looks like removing "us" from the us.archive.ubuntu.com worked for me
[06:21] <Falstius> oprime: that's because you have a ".archive" instead of "archive" .. the . makes the file hidden :)
[06:21] <blaze> phreeza, what codecs do you suggest?
[06:21] <kmilo> Hi
[06:21] <blaze> phreeza, because i think i've installed all i can get
[06:21] <blaze> :-P
[06:21] <r0xoR> blaze, the xvid codec :)
[06:21] <StyXman> Skipster: ubuntu is a linux distribution that has th x window system in it
[06:21] <r0xoR> blaze, do you know about easyubuntu?
[06:21] <Skipster> ya thanks
[06:21] <blaze> i know
[06:21] <blaze> it can't help me
[06:21] <r0xoR> ok
[06:22] <yukonho> bibe: Does the linux rescue CD have a better partitioner than the 6.06 live cd?
[06:22] <r0xoR> blaze, it kinda sucks anyway :P
[06:22] <blaze> :D
[06:22] <phreeza> blaze: i don't really know, vlc has played everything i've thrown at it so far
[06:22] <Falstius> blaze: xine doesn't play xvid for me very well.  vlc works much more smoothly on my P3.
[06:22] <r0xoR> yukonho, no, not really
[06:22] <northcol> Pupbuntoo: Thanks for that hint
[06:22] <StyXman> yukonho: for partitioner, you could try the gparted live cd
[06:22] <blaze> phreeza, it's playing the video, but with a bad quality in full screen
[06:22] <r0xoR> yukonho, they've both got fdisk, i'm not sure if the rescue cd has cfdisk though
[06:22] <blaze> actually if it is not in full screen ( i mean.. in a small window) i see no squares
[06:22] <blaze> and it's kind of perfect :)
[06:23] <Frogzoo> Falstius: you can allocated more mem to gxine's buffers - playback is MUCH improved
[06:23] <phreeza> blaze is your display using acceleration from the graphics card?
[06:23] <blaze> is there any option that i can set to the player?
[06:23] <oprime> Falstius: I'm using the filebrowser to view the /var/lib/apt/lists directory, and telling it to show hidden files, but still no files starting with archive.
[06:23] <disinterested_pe> im having issues with volume not working from keyboard
[06:23] <r0xoR> blaze, phreeza, sounds like a problem with a non-standard video card to me... but hey, what do i know :P
[06:23] <blaze> phreeza, i don't know..
[06:24] <Pupbuntoo> hrmn, now when i try to "apt-get install gnucash", it says, "Some packages could not be installed... The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnucash: Depends: libgal23 (>= 0.24) but it is not going to be installed
[06:24] <Pupbuntoo>  ..."
[06:24] <r0xoR> blaze, one thing i *do* know for sure is that laptops can be very cranky... esp compared to desktops... when it comes to getting hardware to work
[06:24] <oprime> Falstius: I also su'd to root and did an ls -a and still no files beginning with archive.
[06:24] <blaze> and i don't know why it won't play xv format
[06:24] <Falstius> oprime: still, open up /etc/apt/sources.list (or do it in synaptic) and change "http://.archive.ubuntu.com" to "http://archive.ubuntu.com" .. the important part being removing the . before archive.
[06:24] <r0xoR> iirc, there are zero integrated laptop modems that work with linux
[06:24] <blaze> i mean with xv in the settings
[06:24] <phreeza> r0xoR, blaze could be, especially if the issue only appears when in full screen...
[06:24] <oprime> cd /etc/apt
[06:24] <Frogzoo> !linmodem
[06:24] <ubotu> linmodem is, like, To get started with linmodems (aka winmodems), see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[06:25] <loststar4545> what is the keyboard shortcut to force a reboot
[06:25] <blaze> phreeza, yes.. and that's why i want to update my drivers
[06:25] <blaze> and that's what i asked you to help me
[06:25] <blaze> phreeza, this is the drivers site: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[06:25] <blaze> can you help me install the packages?
[06:26] <oprime> Falstius: I see what your saying. Brain hiccup. I have now changed it so there is no "." between the last / and word archive.
[06:26] <gnomefreak> loststar4545: ctrl+alt+delete  maybe 2 times if one doesnt do it
[06:26] <r0xoR> Frogzoo, it's not just cuz most laptop modems are win-modems... it's cuz of the hardware-interface socket that (iirc) all laptops use for modems
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[06:26] <r0xoR> some special socket for which no one has coded anything
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> - please take the us. out of your /etc/apt/sources.list      - They are saying just remove the '.us'  on the urls ?
[06:26] <Frogzoo> r0xoR: gotcha - thought there might be a catch
[06:26] <gnomefreak> !us
[06:26] <ubotu> *** News Flash*** The us.archive.ubuntu.com repos seem not to be working please take the us. out of your repos replace it with another country code or leave it without any.
[06:27] <phreeza> blaze did you manage to install them?
[06:27] <theripper> ok , i get an error when sudo ndiswrappper "on line 135" which is coulnt copy .inf , why would it not be able to copy it ?
[06:27] <blaze> no
[06:27] <blaze> that's why i want help
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> please take the us. out   - could be interperted as removing the whole "us" entries.. :P
[06:27] <Falstius> gnomefreak: why don't they just change the dns to reroute us. to the main server?
[06:27] <r0xoR> blaze, have you ever recompiled a kernel before?
[06:27] <phreeza> blaze, sorry if i missed something you said earlier, whats the problem you run into?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> it says us.
[06:27] <blaze> r0xoR, never :)
[06:27] <Jeffrey> how do I uninstall ubuntu
[06:27] <oprime> Falstius: Now the error message still appears, but without the leading "." e.g. "Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:27] <oprime> "
[06:27] <jeld> sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <gnomefreak> not sure how else to word it
[06:28] <jeld> that would be
[06:28] <jeld> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:28] <r0xoR> Jeffrey, install whatever you want instead... it'll erase ubuntu in the process
[06:28] <gnomefreak> ok i will add that ty
[06:28] <blaze> phreeza, the problem appears when i watch movies
[06:28] <r0xoR> Jeffrey, or at least it should give you the option
[06:28] <blaze> i see squares, that i don't see in windows when i use bsplayer
[06:28] <r0xoR> blaze, ok man, you'll need to recompile your kernel to get any non-standard drivers to work
[06:28] <phreeza> blaze i mean when aplying the driver
[06:28] <Falstius> oprime: apt-get update
[06:28] <ubuntu> DBO: i think i  have lost the plot beyond reasonable doubt
[06:28] <blaze> i can't apply the driver :)
[06:28] <phreeza> blaze have you tried compiling it?
[06:28] <blaze> nope
[06:29] <blaze> may you tell me how to accomplish this?
[06:29] <r0xoR> phreeza, would you like to help him recompile or should I/
[06:29] <r0xoR> phreeza, don't need more than one cook in this pot and I've got work to do
[06:29] <r0xoR> ?
[06:29] <phreeza> r0xor, me too have to go in about 30 mins
[06:29] <blaze> huh :)
[06:29] <phreeza> isnt there a wiki entry about that?
[06:29] <r0xoR> heheh, i should go now :P
[06:29] <r0xoR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[06:29] <blaze> i guess it's not the best time
[06:29] <r0xoR> yes there is
[06:30] <r0xoR> blaze, i reccomend doing it the "by hand" method
[06:30] <gnomefreak> !us
[06:30] <blaze> ok :)
[06:30] <ubotu> ***News Flash*** The us.archive.ubuntu.com repos seem not to be working please take the us. out of your repos by typing  sudo sed -i 's/us.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list   inside a terminal.
[06:30] <phreeza> yea blaze check that out the wiki is great
[06:30] <r0xoR> blaze, there's the "ubuntu way" and the "by hand" way... i personally vote for the by hand method
[06:30] <blaze> :) ok, cool
[06:30] <blaze> and.. where should i use
[06:30] <r0xoR> blaze, recompiling your kernel can be a difficult thing to do... there are a few things you should keep in mind while doing it
[06:30] <blaze> the source i've downloaded
[06:30] <blaze> ?
[06:30] <fermi> hello..
[06:30] <blaze> i mean .. the Linux-FBDev-kernel-src_2.6.00.02.tgz file
[06:31] <fermi> any one knows how to switch the input method?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[06:31] <Falstius> fermi: did you install scim?
[06:31] <yukonho> When using something like GParted to make a new partition for Ubuntu, do I have to format it or can I leave it as free space and let the installer take care of everything?
[06:31] <fermi> Falstius: yes..
[06:31] <kvgeorge1> have the apt-get repositories changed??? I keep getting perm moved messages for Breezy
[06:31] <gnomefreak> something didnt turn out right :(
[06:31] <oprime> Falstius: apt-get update did not work. But I think the sources list is what is playing foul. I manually checked the urls listed in there, and found that the whole thing is off. Instead of "http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages" it should be "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64" Or am I going in the completely wrong direction?
[06:31] <r0xoR> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/
[06:32] <fermi> Falstius: and now I am not going to use scim but fcitx
[06:32] <gleesond> whats the deal with dapper? when I installed the updates last night it didn't have the beta symbole
[06:32] <r0xoR> blaze, you want 2.6.16.14 i think
[06:32] <r0xoR> or maybe it's 14.16
[06:32] <Ng> gleesond: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[06:32] <Falstius> fermi: for most things you can right click the input window and select input method .. but it doesn't work with firefox.
[06:32] <gnomefreak> !us
[06:32] <ubotu> ***News Flash*** The us.archive.ubuntu.com repos seem not to be working please take the us. out of your repos by typing  sudo sed -i 's/us.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list   inside a terminal.
[06:32] <Ng> !tell oprime about sources
[06:32] <r0xoR> blaze, important! go read this first! http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[06:32] <fermi> hmm.. ok, thank you Falstius
[06:32] <blaze> ok.. last question r0xoR
[06:32] <Ng> oprime: ubotu just messaged you with some links, one of which is for the full official breezy sources
[06:33] <blaze> how am i supposed to install the drivers after i recompile the kernel?
[06:33] <r0xoR> blaze, before you read the ubuntu wiki about how to do it on ubuntu... you should read the howto on how to actually DO it
[06:33] <r0xoR> blaze, so you don't screw anything up
[06:33] <Falstius> oprime: you need "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" instead of "htpp://archive.ubuntu.com"
[06:33] <r0xoR> blaze, that's easy... read the instructions :)
[06:33] <Falstius> the rest of the path is built automagically.
[06:33] <blaze> and.. why i should recompile the kernel?
[06:33] <blaze> to make the drivers work :D ?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> i wonder why ubotu wont use \
[06:33] <r0xoR> blaze, in order to compile kernel modules (which is what a driver is)
[06:34] <blaze> oh.. i see so.. i hope that it's written somewere about them too :D
[06:34] <r0xoR> blaze, you'll need to rebuild yourself a kernel, run it... *and* you'll need the source code so that your drivers can be built against the currently running kernel
[06:34] <r0xoR> blaze, read this: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[06:34] <r0xoR> blaze, it will answer all your questions
[06:34] <blaze> super :) thank you very much
[06:34] <r0xoR> blaze, then read the ubuntu wiki kernel by hand howto
[06:34] <blaze> thank you! :)
[06:34] <r0xoR> blaze, then try it out
[06:34] <blaze> ok :) wish me luck :D
[06:35] <r0xoR> blaze, please read ALL of it before actually TRYING it
[06:35] <r0xoR> blaze, good luck :)
[06:35] <blaze> ok :) 10x :D
[06:35] <yukonho> When using something like GParted to make a new partition for Ubuntu, do I have to format it or can I leave it as free space and let the installer take care of everything?
[06:35] <r0xoR> oh blaze
[06:35] <r0xoR> 1 mor thn
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> yukonho,  leave it unallocated. and let the installer handle it.
[06:35] <r0xoR> blaze, when you do get around to actually configuring your kernel
[06:36] <r0xoR> blaze, just say my name on this channel
[06:36] <r0xoR> blaze, i'll come help you configure your kernel
[06:36] <blaze> ok, cool :)
[06:36] <r0xoR> blaze, compiling it is easy... configuring it is hard
[06:36] <yukonho> Dr_Willis: Should I let the installer create the swap partition as well?  My initual problem was that it was not letting me resize the FAT32 Partition
[06:36] <blaze> ok :)
[06:36] <oprime> Falstius: That did it. I wonder why the sources list had incorrect links? It was missing the /ubuntu after .com in most of the sources.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> !us
[06:36] <ubotu> ***News Flash*** The us.archive.ubuntu.com repos seem not to be working please take the us. out of your repos by typing "sudo sed -i 's/us.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list" inside a terminal. dont use the " "
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> yukonho,  resize the partitions.. leave a large section UNALLOCATED - then the installer can see and partition/format the unallocated space as needed. is easiest way
[06:37] <oprime> ubotu: thank you also, you gave me something to compare my sources list with.
[06:37] <ubotu> oprime: pas de quoi
[06:37] <yukonho> Dr_Willis:  Alright, I'll give it a go.  Thanks so much!
[06:37] <oprime> ubotu: Is that French?
[06:37] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oprime
[06:38] <Mindy> okay, are the repositories down for x86? because I keep getting 301 "moved permanetly"
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Mindy,  the us ones and some others seem to be having issues.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !us
[06:38] <ubotu> ***News Flash*** The us.archive.ubuntu.com repos seem not to be working please take the us. out of your repos by typing  sudo sed -i 's/us.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list   inside a terminal.
[06:38] <gnomefreak> its not printing the \
[06:38] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you got a sec bot is getting on my nerves ;)
[06:39] <oprime> ubotu: what am I searching for there?
[06:39] <ubotu> oprime: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:39] <Mindy> !ca
[06:39] <ubotu> Mindy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:39] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ours or something else?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> plesae dont play with the bot
[06:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu
[06:39] <Mindy> the Ca ones are down too
[06:39] <jdh> what?? has Dapper really been canceled?? is this real?? it says it on Slashdot!
[06:40] <Falstius> oprime: I figured you deleted it :)  Glad its working.
[06:40] <Znuff> Hello. I've got a small issue. I've got the cd iso of ubuntu and I'm trying to burn it on a dvd (I'm out of cds), and all burning software ask me for a cd =/
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Znuff,  ya could download the dvd version.
[06:40] <Jeffrey> exit
[06:40] <Znuff> Dr_Willis, I just spent hours downloading this...
[06:40] <ompaul> jdh, show me an announcement on a ubuntu mailing list
[06:40] <jdh> what is a mailing list
[06:41] <gnomefreak> jdh: dapper has not been cancelled
[06:41] <ompaul> jdh, (don't waste your time looking there is no announcement)
[06:41] <oprime> Falstius: Nope, just installed last night, and hadn't deleted anything. I didn't even know about the sources.list until you mentioned it. I wonder why it was missing.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Znuff,  ive heard people ask similer cd on dvd.. bedor.. and never seen any way to do it.
[06:41] <Znuff> Dr_Willis, and there's no dvd image for ubuntu 6.06 beta2 =/
[06:41] <bthornton> Got a networking question; hope it's okay to ask here...
[06:41] <Manika> where did they get that? dapper cancelled... c'mon!
[06:41] <oprime> Falstius: (the /ubuntu,  not the whole file)
[06:41] <gnomefreak> jdh: we will know before any website would im sure of it
[06:41] <bthornton> Say I've got a 4-port hub/switch with hosts "A", "B", "C", and "D" connected.  Hosts "A" and "B" are on the 192.168.1.x subnet and hosts "C" and "D" are on the 192.168.2.x subnet.  Is there anything wrong with having these two subnets running through the same hub/switch, or do I need to have a separate hub/switch?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Znuff,  i thogh i saw one in the daily builds - or the live cd-dvd was what i saw
[06:41] <doped1> i've read something about, it is possible to apt-get dapper distro, when released in non beta?
[06:42] <lullabud> bthornton: you should be fine.
[06:42] <Znuff> Dr_Willis, found this, http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=143236, on google... but I'd like a little bit more info, as this is the only dvd I have left :P
[06:42] <jdh> I hope you are right
[06:42] <kmilo> jdh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_list
[06:42] <Mindy> this is screwed up, I changed my repositories from CA to US (which im told is down) and it works >_<
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Znuff,  i think its time tobe going to the store.   Okay, followup question: In general, hosts on either subnet are going to be unable to talk to hosts on the other subnet, correct?  If I want them to be able to talk to each other, how (briefly) do I do that?  i.e. will I need to setup a gateway?
[06:43] <aaron> dapper is cancelled :(
[06:43] <doped1> shure?
[06:43] <doped1> sure*
[06:43] <blaze> r0xoR, i have another question before i continue with the recompiling thing
[06:43] <blaze> and the things i have to read
[06:43] <Chousuke> aaron: Where does it say so?
[06:44] <blaze> what should be the size of the swapping partition?
[06:44] <aaron>  /. (subscriber feeds)
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> blaze,  i set mine to 512mb or so
[06:44] <batman> does anyone know of a way i can sym link the home dir to a different hard drive?
[06:44] <lullabud> bthornton: you can open up your subnet mask to 255.255.0.0...
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> blaze,  more if you dont have much ram
[06:44] <blaze> i have 512 ram
[06:44] <batman> when i mount the hard drive as home i can't set this progam up correctly
[06:44] <jdh> that's what I read too
[06:44] <blaze> so how much that makes :) ?
[06:44] <lullabud> bthornton: you could install routing software on one of the hosts and set it up with an additional interface on the same ethernet card...
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> blaze,  id say 1gb or so then.
[06:44] <LinuxJones> Dapper is canceled wtf ?
[06:44] <lullabud> bthornton: you could set static routes in the hosts routing tables...
[06:44] <blaze> and.. if i want to enlarge it.. what should i do?
[06:44] <Pupbuntoo> is there a way to find out what package to install to get the program "gnome-config"?
[06:44] <jdh> this sucks
[06:45] <DbD-> batman, see the /etc/fstab
[06:45] <Howdy125> Whats with this in apt ? .. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 301 Moved Permanently
[06:45] <LinuxJones> post the link
[06:45] <batman> DbD- read my last statement
[06:45] <jdh> Howdy125: they canceled dapper
[06:45] <blaze> Dr_Willis, ?
[06:45] <lullabud> bthornton: why do you need them in different subnets?
[06:45] <Howdy125> ha ha jdh
[06:45] <RandolphCarter> :p jdh
[06:45] <DbD-> blaze, 512 Mo of swap it's ok
[06:45] <bthornton> lullabud: hm, okay.  In reality, I would like all hosts to be able to communicate with e/o as though they were on the same subnet, so that begs the question... ya the question you just asked :)
[06:45] <blaze> DbD-, ok, but how to enlarge mine?
[06:45] <lullabud> Howdy125: looking at the output of curl, it shows that the bandwidth limit on that mirror has been exceeded.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> LinuxJones: dapper has not been canceled and please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:46] <LinuxJones> jdh, post the link to bastebin
[06:46] <Howdy125> ok lullabud
[06:46] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak, sorry I thought this was OT sorry
[06:46] <jdh> what is pastebin
[06:46] <lullabud> bthornton: i'd just put them on the same subnet either by widening your mask to 255.255.0.0 or by putting them both in 192.168.1.x
[06:46] <cubikdice> lol
[06:46] <sharms> LinuxJones - read the title
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> blaze,  enlarge it later? proberly wont ever need to.
[06:46] <bthornton> lullabud: I want a second subnet because I've got a small network here that I'm "merging" with another small network and want each host to keep its own respective name without reassigning IP addresses (since many of the host IPs overlap).
[06:46] <doped1> what is too expect from dapper that breezy doesn't?
[06:46] <sharms> LinuxJones, - just the resp are not working
[06:46] <aaron> i have to go
[06:47] <bthornton> lullabud: I've always used the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 -- how does 255.255.0.0 "widen" it?
[06:47] <lullabud> bthornton: i don't quite follow...
[06:48] <blaze> does anyone know what should i do to enlarge my swap partition?
[06:48] <sharms> bthornton - it is a MASK that is applied over the address.  So 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 means 192.168.1.1-255     192.168.0.0 255.255.0.0 means 192.168.1-255.1-255
[06:48] <amphi> blaze: if you have unpartitioned space, you can make a second swap partition
[06:48] <bthornton> ahhh
[06:48] <bthornton> I gotcha
[06:48] <amphi> blaze: you can also use a swap file
[06:48] <sharms> or 0-254 rather :)_
[06:49] <bthornton> coulda fooled me
[06:49] <blaze> ok amphi, 10x
[06:49] <Howdy125> Nice not seeing "Beta" on my desktop anymore .. :)
[06:49] <lullabud> bthornton: basically, the mask is the number of bits that are in the network address.  255.255.255.0 is 24 bits, leaving 8 bits for hosts.  255.255.0.0 is 16 bits, leaving 16 bits for hosts.
[06:50] <amphi> blaze: why do you need more? how much ram and swap do you have now?
[06:50] <blaze> i have 512 ram and 213 mb swap
[06:50] <lullabud> and since 192.168.2.x and 192.168.1.x both have the same first 16 bits, they are now within the same 255.255.0.0 subnet.
[06:50] <blaze> i'm a newbie after all :)
[06:50] <jesse-jads> has people been having problems downloading from repository today http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[06:50] <amphi> blaze: why did you make so little?
[06:50] <amphi> blaze: swap?
[06:51] <Larsson-Sweden> Does anyone know how to play videos in fbxine or aaxine? It just says "Video port failed"
[06:51] <blaze> because i thought it won't matter :D
[06:51] <blaze> but it's working kind of slow now ;)
[06:51] <amphi> blaze: are you actually having problems because of this?
[06:51] <lullabud> jesse-jads: yes.  the bandwidth limit has been exceeded.
[06:51] <blaze> a little :)
[06:51] <jesse-jads> Yeah that sucks
[06:51] <dell500> how do you find out what version of kde is installed?
[06:51] <amphi> blaze: and why do you think it's swap?
[06:51] <kuitang> something like konqueror --version
[06:51] <tristanmike> blaze, swap should be twice the ram
[06:52] <blaze> i suppose.. because when i open a web page with more flash it's working very slow
[06:52] <ompaul> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ get a mailing list and stay up today - slashdot is for those who don't know :)
[06:52] <amphi> blaze: more swap can make it faster, as unused stuff can be paged out, letting more files be cached in RAM
[06:52] <blaze> tristanmike, i heard that from a friend a day ago
[06:52] <Ignite> i seem to have lost jpeg support in Kubuntu, i can't set my desktop background as a jpeg and in konqueror its just a blank (transparent) icon, does anyone know what package i will need to (re)install?
[06:52] <bthornton> lullabut: ok I see now.  Well the answer to your question about having multiple subnets is really that I should just merge into the same subnet, but I want to go ahead and try two so that I can learn how to do some beginner/intermediate routing and finally tackle that dreaded ROUTING-HOWTO I've been avoiding for so long. :p
[06:52] <blaze> ok amphi :)
[06:52] <Syco54645> crap i just had a brain fart.  where is the mount information kept.
[06:52] <amphi> blaze: you don't need a gb of swap - 2x ram is from the olden days
[06:52] <bthornton> lullabud: so thanks for the info, that should be enough to get me started
[06:52] <blaze> =D
[06:53] <ompaul> Syco54645, mount and /etc/fstab
[06:53] <Syco54645> is it mtab or fstab
[06:53] <Syco54645> ompaul: thanks
[06:53] <kuitang> fstab
[06:53] <amphi> blaze: if you were actually using 1GB of swap with 512MB ram, the machine would not be pleasant to use
[06:53] <blaze> :) i see
[06:53] <Syco54645> so if i want to be able to have a normal user mount and unmount iso images, what would i put in the fstab
[06:53] <amphi> Syco54645: generally, you shouldn't edit /etc/mtab
[06:54] <Syco54645> amphi: yeah i noticed that after a cat.  thanks though
[06:54] <amphi> blaze: but a bit more wouldn't do you any harm ;)
[06:54] <amphi> blaze: do you have unpartitioned space?
[06:54] <der0b> where would I go to see how much video memory I have?
[06:54] <blaze> :D 10x for the detailed explanation, i'll make :D
[06:55] <blaze> i am wondering to remove winXP or not.. :)
[06:55] <blaze> :D
[06:55] <blaze> but i'll think again
[06:55] <kuitang> go ahead
[06:55] <blaze> ;)
[06:55] <amphi> blaze: that would make an excellent swap partition ;)
[06:55] <blaze> amphi, lol :D
[06:56] <Syco54645> is "[4637375.119000]  ata4: translated ATA stat/err 0xb0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00" bad?  when i searched on google it says that it is just a bug in how the kernel handles sata
[06:56] <ketsugi> I still need Windows
[06:56] <Mortuis> Does anyone know about SSH and pgp?  I need some help getting this to work on the command line.
[06:56] <amphi> blaze: you can make a swap file - use dd to make a file of the desired size somewhere, mkswap it, and swapon it
[06:56] <Larsson-Sweden> Does anyone know how to play videos in fbxine or aaxine? It just says "Video port failed"
[06:56] <ketsugi> Pocket PC support on Linux just isn't good enough yet for me
[06:56] <Ignite> i seem to have lost jpeg support in Kubuntu, i can't set my desktop background as a jpeg and in konqueror its just a blank (transparent) icon, does anyone know what package i will need to (re)install? (i know this is the second time but i'm kinda desperate)
[06:56] <kuitang> mortius: ssh username@host
[06:56] <blaze> amphi, i'll try now
[06:56] <kuitang> mortius: pgp: gpg --help
[06:56] <kuitang> man gpg
[06:56] <voraistos> ketsugi: have u any idea how to access the ppc as a drive ?
[06:57] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ignite, afaik libjpeg*
[06:57] <Mortuis> kuitang: Permission denied (publickey).
[06:57] <gnomefreak> !gpg
[06:57] <ubotu> it has been said that gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[06:57] <miter> any Xubuntu users? How to have "Synaptic" in xfce?
[06:57] <Ignite> aLPHa_LeaK, thanks i'll try
[06:57] <kuitang> mortius: delete ur gpg directory
[06:57] <Mortuis> kuitang: I have the key, and have gotten in using it with a windows client.  But I don't know how to point linux to the key.
[06:57] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ignite, try apt-cache search libjpeg* could be that im wrong
[06:57] <kuitang> there's a command to import keys
[06:57] <kuitang> man gpg
[06:57] <ketsugi> voraistos: Nope. I managed to get Evolution syncing the calendar and contacts with the ppc, but it seemed to be only one way
[06:57] <Mortuis> kuitang: thanks
[06:57] <ketsugi> and it was a pain to deal with
[06:58] <chrisbudden14> hey
[06:58] <Ignite> aLPHa_LeaK, i have already installed a lot of jpeg related packages with no luck, i've just done apt-get install libjpeg* now, going to see what happens :)
[06:58] <amphi> blaze: dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1M count=512 would make a 512MB file
[06:58] <chrisbudden14> hi
[06:58] <Ignite> aLPHa_LeaK, no luck, thanks anyway
[06:58] <miter> and: how to SEARCH the apt-repos with command line?
[06:58] <blaze> amphi, ok, i'll type it
[06:58] <amphi> blaze: I've never used a swap file myself, so I'd be interested in how you get on
[06:59] <blaze> =)
[06:59] <blaze> cool :)
[06:59] <Ignite> miter, apt-cache search <whatever>
[06:59] <amphi> blaze: replace '/path/to/swapfile' with something sensible, obviously
[06:59] <batman> can someone please tell me how i can "sym link" my home dir to a different hard drive without mounting it?
[06:59] <Falstius> miter: you can do a search on a few words too, it doesn't have to be a single word.
[06:59] <chrisbudden14> are the forums down?
[07:00] <voraistos> ketsugi: yea that sucks, there is just no way (unless by email) to send a damn .cab install soft on the ppc
[07:00] <gnomefreak> chrisbudden14: im checking right now is there something we can help you with in the meantime?
[07:00] <ketsugi> Hence, a 15gb windows partition on my laptop :/
[07:00] <Ignite> hrm.. when i try opening a jpeg in gwenview i get "Could not find mime type
[07:00] <Ignite> application/octet-stream" any ideas?
[07:00] <kuitang> file FILE.jpg
[07:01] <kuitang> make sure it didn't get corrupted; if it is a jpeg, it should print something saying it's a jpeg
[07:01] <gnomefreak> no forums are not down
[07:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ignite, it might be libjpg
[07:01] <chrisbudden14> yea gnomefreak, im running dapper, and im having a screen saver problem.  Ive set the screen saver, and in gnome-power-manager ive set the display to sleep never but instead of the screensaver i get a black scree
[07:01] <Ignite> kuitang, ok
[07:01] <blaze> amphi, i've made it
[07:01] <Ignite> aLPHa_LeaK, ok i will do a search
[07:02] <gnomefreak> chrisbudden14: join #ubuntu+1 they might beable to help you better
[07:02] <amphi> blaze: cool; now do mkswap /path/to/swapfile
[07:02] <chrisbudden14> ok cool
[07:02] <blaze> amphi, sec.
[07:02] <robouk> finally sorted my resolution issues!
[07:03] <robouk> and now this is such a pleasure to use :)
[07:03] <Mortuis> kuitang: I'm having a problem importing the key. It looks like I need to install OpenPGP or something, but I see nothing called OpenPGP in apt-cache.  Could you take a look? http://pastebin.com/733268
[07:03] <kuitang> 1024x768 on a 19 inch
[07:03] <kuitang> good if u hav horrible vision
[07:03] <kuitang> like me!
[07:03] <blaze> i've done it
[07:03] <amphi> blaze: and swapon /path/to/file
[07:04] <lullabud> awesome, the bandwidth limit exceed has been fixed!
[07:04] <blaze> rdy :)
[07:04] <lullabud> dapper is no longer canceled!
[07:04] <lullabud> :P
[07:04] <amphi> blaze: cat /proc/swaps should show it then; if so, run top, and you should see you have ~700MB swap
[07:04] <gnomefreak> lullabud: it never was and please talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:05] <blaze> ok, it appeared amphi
[07:05] <blaze> :)
[07:05] <lullabud> gnomefreak: but... i don't want to talk about it.
[07:05] <blaze> thak you very much :)
[07:05] <amphi> blaze: you see it in top?
[07:05] <lullabud> gnomefreak: and that's not off-topic.  i came in here looking for a fix for that problem, and now it's fixed.
[07:05] <voraistos> lool
[07:05] <lullabud> gnomefreak: other people had it, and i told them the source of the problem, and now i'm announcing the solution.  it's hardly off-topic.
[07:05] <blaze> amphi, yes, Swap:   805376k total,
[07:05] <gnomefreak> lullabud: yes it is this is not a dapper channel this channel is only for breezy and hoary
[07:05] <blaze> :) cool :-P
[07:06] <lullabud> gnomefreak: so, wouldn't my comments belong in #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:06] <blaze> i'll write down what we've done so far :), 10x again
[07:06] <B1zz> it is? what channel is dapper?
[07:06] <tristanmike> #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <B1zz> okies ty
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lullabud: not really since its a false statement and its not support related
[07:07] <amphi> blaze: you may be able to put an entry in /etc/fstab for that
[07:07] <lullabud> gnomefreak: that's ridiculous.  it is totally support related.  i came in here, the official support channel, looking for a fix for that problem.
[07:07] <amphi> blaze: from now on, you only need do swapon /path/to/swapfile to 'enable' it
[07:07] <lullabud> gnomefreak: besides, it's over.  talking about it is moot.
[07:07] <loststar4545> whats the difference between sudo apt-get update  and upgrade
[07:07] <Ignite> does anybosy know of a program that will allow me to change QT themes like gtk-chtheme does for GTK? i'm going to install ubuntu but can't live without amarok :P
[07:07] <amphi> blaze: you only need dd and mkswap if you want to make another one
[07:07] <blaze> i see..
[07:08] <lullabud> loststar4545: update will update the list of packages.  upgrade actually does the upgrade of the packages.
[07:08] <blaze> so when i need more memory, i swap it on :)
[07:08] <tristanmike> loststar4545, update makes note of changes, upgrade applies them
[07:08] <gnomefreak> lullabud: dapper was never canceled nor will it be and as for it being or not is _not_ support related it does not affect you version of ubuntu in any way
[07:08] <Mortuis> I'm having a problem importing an encryption key. It looks like I need to install OpenPGP or something, but I see nothing called OpenPGP in apt-cache.  Could anyone take a look? http://pastebin.com/733268
[07:08] <lullabud> gnomefreak: when i can't successfully update my list of packages, it's support related.
[07:08] <amphi> blaze: dd is to create the file of the required size, and mkswap 'formats' it for use as a swap file
[07:08] <blaze> or fstab as you said (i missed it)
[07:08] <kuitang> not openpgp; gpg
[07:08] <gnomefreak> lullabud: those are the repos
[07:08] <gnomefreak> !us
[07:08] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[07:08] <gnomefreak> ^^^ thats why you cant has nothing to do with dapper
[07:08] <blaze> i got it all, thank you :)
[07:09] <gnomefreak> same happens with breezy ;)
[07:09] <gnomefreak> now to continue this move it to #ubuntu-offtopic (the part with dapper being cancelled)
[07:10] <lullabud> lol
[07:10] <gnomefreak> as for support with dapper take it to #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <voraistos> lullabud: u might not use the .us repos, and have problems with it anyway...
[07:10] <diablo> What do i have to do to make my ubuntu support wireless keyboard/mouse ?
[07:10] <loststar4545> is 13 charachter  password of letters numbers and special  charachters  a strong  enough  password?
[07:11] <kuitang> nah,
[07:11] <gnomefreak> loststar4545: i would think so
[07:11] <kuitang> something like Fg2#:&gH*(3
[07:11] <kuitang> or my friend's root pass: 7b^A1
[07:11] <amphi> blaze: I don't know if adding an entry to fstab will work; you could copy the current swap entry, and change /dev/foo to /path/to/swapfile and see if that works; at worst, it won't work, it won't break anthing
[07:11] <kuitang> (his machine isn't networked yet) he just got a unix book today and is still learning
[07:12] <amphi> blaze: as long as you don't mistakenly put the name of a data partition ;)
[07:12] <voraistos> kuitang: use stuff like that as well: `'
[07:12] <brandon_> does photoshop cs2 work with the crossover office?
[07:13] <blaze> amphi, :)
[07:13] <Mortuis> kuitang: I'm getting the message "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." when I try to import the key.
[07:13] <Iam8up|lpy> brandon_ - if you're talking about getting it to work on linux w/wine, i know it does
[07:13] <blaze> and.. i have another question aside of that
[07:13] <Mortuis> kuitang: I don't know much about pgp, maybe my key isn't compatable with linux?
[07:14] <blaze> what was the prosess name of the desktop? i mean.. nau*
[07:14] <brandon_> lam8up|lpy: with wine or crossover office?
[07:14] <blaze> * replaces a string :)
[07:14] <roll> how can i get to workspace 2?
[07:14] <blaze> i mean how to killall the workspace prosess
[07:15] <mortal__> Hey all. Is there an FTP-client built into Ubuntu? I can't seem to find one in the "Add Applications" dialog.
[07:15] <Asathoor> hi from Denmark
[07:15] <mortal__> Hey fellow Dane :D
[07:15] <amphi> blaze: huh?
[07:15] <blaze> :) i'll try to explain :)
[07:15] <voraistos> mortal__: yea, just go on places, connect a server, and select ftp
[07:16] <Mortal`> Ah, thanks, voraistos
[07:16] <miter> i'm using xubuntu and have synaptic installed but NO shortcut for it in the menu !? How to add one?
[07:16] <blaze> so.. amphi, if i have a mozilla firefox window that has stuck and i want to close it
[07:16] <Warbo> mortal__: Add Applications only shows a few apps, if you go on the "advanced" button you can get loads more stuff. gftp is quite good I've heard
[07:16] <Falstius> Mortal`: gftp is also available, similar to cuteftp
[07:16] <Mortal`> Okay, thanks
[07:16] <Mortal`> I'll look at those.
[07:16] <roll> how can i get to workspace 2?
[07:16] <kuitang> uh, open a terminal and type synnaptic?
[07:16] <Mortal`> that*
[07:16] <blaze> but it won't close, what else can i do to close it :) ? i've tried killall "firefox" (without "")
[07:16] <amphi> blaze: try xkill, or do ps aux | grep firefox and kill it by PID
[07:16] <kuitang> xkill usually works
[07:17] <mjcs> blaze: it's called firefox-bin
[07:17] <amphi> blaze: if you have to kill -9 it, you may have to remove the stale lock file to run it again
[07:17] <blaze> oh.. xkill is fine :)
[07:17] <Falstius> blaze killall -9 firefox
[07:17] <theripper> ok , i get an error when sudo ndiswrappper "on line 135" which is coulnt copy .inf , why would it not be able to copy it ?
[07:18] <miter> what's the spreadsheet tool to abiword?
[07:18] <mjcs> permissions?
[07:18] <Warbo> miter: gcalc I think
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> feestbijtje@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe fuse && sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> umount: /dev: device is busy
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> umount: /: device is busy
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> what to do
[07:19] <miter> Warbo "GCalc - Java Online Graphing Calculator "
[07:19] <kuitang> Warbo: don't use gcalc!  use something like bc or octave
[07:19] <kuitang> don't use java graphing calc!  use gnuplot
[07:19] <miter> aah foun it gnumeric it is
[07:19] <miter> "Gnumeric"
[07:19] <Warbo> gnumeric, that's the one!
[07:21] <loststar4545> does ununtu do file indexing?
[07:21] <mjcs> isn't that down to what filesystem you use?
[07:21] <NoUse> FeestBijtje why are you trying to umount all your drives?
[07:21] <Falstius> loststar4545: you can do that with either slocate (very simple, name based) or beagle in dapper.
[07:21] <amphi> miter: gnumeric perhaps - abiword is just a wp AFAIK, noy part of a 'suite' (ugh)
[07:21] <Warbo> loststar4545: Do you mean for searching? Beagle does
[07:21] <FeestBijtje> NoUse, couse i want to mount an NTFS drive for copying some data to it
[07:22] <loststar4545> yeah for searching  faster
[07:22] <NoUse> FeestBijtje so just umount that drive, you can't umount all drives while the system is running
[07:22] <Warbo> loststar4545: Use Beagle, it's really fast
[07:22] <mjcs> idd. beagle's actually awesome
[07:22] <FeestBijtje> sudo modprobe fuse && sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[07:23] <NoUse> FeestBijtje umount -a unmount all drives, that won't work
[07:23] <FeestBijtje> NoUse, so how do i mount hdb1 with read/write permissions
[07:23] <FeestBijtje> last time this all worked out
[07:24] <amphi> FeestBijtje: you can't unmount /
[07:24] <NoUse> FeestBijtje NTFS write support isn't safe so I don't know
[07:24] <FeestBijtje> NoUse, i know but i must to
[07:24] <FeestBijtje> i must write to it*
[07:24] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[07:24] <NoUse> FeestBijtje you realize you might delete all your data?
[07:24] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: you can just sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hdb1
[07:24] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[07:25] <Warbo> FeestBijtje: I think NTFS write support is supposed to be safe, but to keep it safe it frequently aborts
[07:25] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me how the ipw2200 drivers work for ubuntu?
[07:25] <tuxtheslacker> or if the ipw2200 nics work out of the box with ubuntu?
[07:25] <Falstius> ls
[07:25] <Falstius> oops :)
[07:25] <dizz1> YES! DAPPER IS RELEASED!
[07:25] <NoUse> dizz1 no its not
[07:25] <FeestBijtje> Falstius, that dousnt work
[07:26] <FeestBijtje> dizz1, what did you say?
[07:26] <dizz1> not official, but released
[07:26] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/ipw2200?highlight=%28ipw2200%29
[07:26] <tuxtheslacker> anyone able to tell me about the ipw2200 drivers?
[07:26] <Warbo> dizz1: Yes, it has been for ages (not final)
[07:26] <tuxtheslacker> mjcs, thanks.
[07:26] <dizz1> i cant see the BETA splash screen anymore
[07:26] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: I've never used the "fuse" drivers .. maybe you have to umount it completely (umount /dev/hdb1)
[07:26] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker:  hah actually theres barely anything on that page
[07:26] <NoUse> dizz1 its a RC
[07:26] <NoUse> dizz1 not a release
[07:27] <dizz1> are you sure?
[07:27] <FeestBijtje> feestbijtje@ubuntu:~$ umount /dev/hdb1
[07:27] <FeestBijtje> umount: /dev/hdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[07:27] <tuxtheslacker> mjcs, there's nothing on that page.
[07:27] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: then mount it read-write :)
[07:27] <NoUse> dizz1 do you think they would release dapper without a RC?
[07:27] <Warbo> dizz1: Actually, I only saw the work in progress artwork when I ran a livecd onece. I just upgraded my breezy to dapper and I kept all of my preferences (custom splash, etc.)
[07:27] <tuxtheslacker> I'm on fedora right now, and it's kinda bloated. I've been on slack for a year, and before that I was on gentoo.
[07:27] <NoUse> dizz1 also, its not listed here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/
[07:27] <FeestBijtje> Falstius, how
[07:27] <tuxtheslacker> do you think ubuntu would be a good choice?
[07:27] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker: i saw loads somewhere about getting it working. i just can't remember where.
[07:28] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker:  sorry!
[07:28] <tuxtheslacker> mjcs, there's lots on getting it working, it's just a thing of if it's easy to make work on ubuntu :-P
[07:28] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: if you have ntfs read-write support, sudo mount -o rw /dev/hdb1 /windows
[07:28] <loststar4545> how do i find out what version of ubuntu i am using
[07:28] <NoUse> loststar4545 lsb_release -a
[07:28] <Falstius> but I've never bothered with ntfs write support so can't tell you how to set that up.
[07:28] <LinuxJones> loststar4545, cat /etc/issue
[07:29] <Warbo> To mount FUSE filesystems don't you use ./filesystem ?
[07:29] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker: my wireless card worked out of the box on both my computer and my laptop on Dapper. it should be easy..
[07:29] <dizz1> well, i think it is not enough time to develop DAPPER anymor
[07:29] <tuxtheslacker> mjcs, normally it needs the firmware at least updated.
[07:29] <tuxtheslacker> or at least did in fedora.
[07:29] <dizz1> therefore it can be a release
[07:29] <NoUse> dizz1 well a week is plenty of time to fix bugs
[07:29] <tuxtheslacker> in slack it was a huge pain in the testicles.
[07:29] <L33TrDaNu> is there a way to rip mp3s from a flash audio player?
[07:29] <NoUse> dizz1 its a release candiate, not a release
[07:30] <dizz1> OK!
[07:30] <Warbo> L33TrDaNu: Mount it (plug it in)
[07:30] <dizz1> NoUse: OK!
[07:30] <LinuxJones> tuxtheslacker, you can do a server install (no X) then do custom install using apt whether you want to use kde, gnome, xfce4 whatever.
[07:30] <L33TrDaNu> Warbo: i do not follow
[07:30] <L33TrDaNu> Warbo: not a usb flash drive
[07:30] <L33TrDaNu> Warbo: a swf-based flash player
[07:30] <FeestBijtje> Falstius, i mounted it trough fstab
[07:31] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker: i done a quick search of the forums, it appears the ipw2200 should work out of the box on Dapper. should be painless.
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> linuxboy, that's what I had planned on doing, but bassically, I need wireless support.
[07:31] <Warbo> L33TrDaNu: Oh, sorry I thought you meant a flash based (NAND memory) usb MP3 Player :)
[07:31] <FeestBijtje> Falstius, /dev/hdb1    /media/hdb1    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> mjcs, doens't need any firmware updates?
[07:31] <LinuxJones> tuxtheslacker, what card do you have ?
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> ipw2200
[07:31] <mjcs> tuxtheslacker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=888450
[07:31] <jorgg> how can I controll the sound volume when there is flashanimation with sound in mozilla? Even though Ive turn down the sound volume in gnome the flash sound is very high!
[07:31] <Tomcat_> Bit offtopic, but will WinXP delete my Linux partitions on installation?
[07:31] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: so just mount /media/hdb1
[07:32] <Falstius> Tomcat_: depending on how your drive is set up, it might just refuse to install without deleting them.
[07:32] <Warbo> L33TrDaNu: You can get stuff like that for windoze, and they are probably simple enough to run well in WINE
[07:32] <Falstius> Tomcat_: but it won't do it automatically.
[07:32] <tuxtheslacker> can someone go to abc.com and try to watch the tv shows? I want to see if I have a bad install from yum (the fedora crap installer that envys apt)
[07:32] <wims> !codecs
[07:32] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[07:32] <tuxtheslacker> I just wanna check that, if it works, I'm going over to ubuntu
[07:32] <wims> !easysource
[07:32] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:32] <L33TrDaNu> Warbo: do you know any names ottoyh?
[07:33] <FeestBijtje> Falstius, how to do that?
[07:33] <Warbo> L33TrDaNu: No sorry. Try download.com or softpedia or something
[07:33] <Tomcat_> Falstius: Should be okay. :)
[07:33] <L33TrDaNu> ok, will check it out, thx
[07:34] <Falstius> FeestBijtje: "sudo mount /mnt/hdb1"  it will get the settings from fstab
[07:34] <LinuxJones> tuxtheslacker, here's a link, the new dapper livecd has a gui installer (if you feeling brave you will know whether your card is supported out of the box)  >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1028620
[07:35] <mjcs> LinuxJones: Expresso is still a bit dogey though.
[07:35] <mothman> hi
[07:35] <Warbo> LinuxJones: I've heard of a few problems with the graphical insteller, and I wouldn't use anything that can potentially do so much damage if it has any bugs
[07:35] <mjcs> *dodgey
[07:35] <LinuxJones> mjcs, like I said if he's feeling brave :)
[07:35] <mjcs> loll
[07:36] <mjcs> it's quick though.
[07:36] <mjcs> 20 minute installs
[07:36] <tuxtheslacker> :-P
[07:36] <mothman> ?
[07:36] <LinuxJones> Warbo, Warbo I tried it like 2 months ago and it was rough
[07:36] <Okay> hi
[07:36] <jhenn> hi. can someone help me get my X fixed?
[07:37] <Warbo> Does the Dapper Live/Install CD actually come with many packages? (I am thinking eagle-usb, as I often need that to get on the net in the first place)
[07:37] <Okay> Cisco Wifi card works with Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Warbo> jhenn: What is the matter?
[07:37] <jhenn> Warbo, it lags and stuff
[07:38] <jhenn> Warbo, while moving windows
[07:38] <Newbify2> Okay: if you can't find native linux drivers try ndiswrapper
[07:38] <jhenn> Warbo, hard to explain
[07:38] <Warbo> jhenn: Do you need to install a binary driver or something?
[07:38] <Okay> Newbify2, of course thx
[07:38] <jhenn> Warbo, I don't think so on this old dell it doens't have ati or nvidea
[07:38] <GaiaX11> I've upgraded my system 4 times and when i reboot it, grub show me 4 kernel options. How can i get rid of some of them the older ones without breaking my system or not being able to boot it again?
[07:38] <GaiaX11> I am asking it because i think the older kernels are taking much room in my hd.
[07:38] <mjcs> Okay: Cisco Aironet's are supported out of the box on Dapper I beleive
[07:39] <leliel> ubot-it: mp3
[07:39] <tuxtheslacker> jhenn, ndiswrapper is the devil from my expierence.
[07:39] <tuxtheslacker> I've only gotten it to work on two of about 50 computers I've tried to get it working on.
[07:39] <Desh> Hey, can anyone help me change my root password? It randomly asks me for a root passwd when I boot into recovery mode and the one pass I always used does not work. Also, my normal user account was accidentally stripped of sudo powers by me.
[07:39] <Warbo> jhenn: Oh right. Well, the only solution I have for lagging/sticking windows when moving is XGL, but I doubt that would help :)
[07:39] <mjcs> jhenn: but Linuxant's Driverloader is gods gift
[07:40] <Okay> and another question, Call manager exist in free version?
[07:40] <Warbo> GaiaX11: Look for "linux-image-something" packages, and get rid of the older ones
[07:40] <loststar4545> whats the locatio of the trash folder
[07:41] <jhenn> Warbo, i think i just want to turn off showing windows while moving them and that would satisfy.  do you know how to do this in metacity?
[07:41] <Warbo> loststar4545: $HOME/.Trash and any other drive/partition's root/.Trash-username
[07:41] <GaiaX11> Warbo, in synaptic?
[07:41] <Warbo> jhenn: Sorry, no
[07:41] <Mortal`> Hey, in a terminal, what's the command to log in as root?
[07:41] <Warbo> GaiaX11: Yes, but don't get rid of the latest one (the one you are using)
[07:41] <mjcs> Ooh does anyone know of a tool that can resize NTFS partitions in Linux?
[07:42] <Newbify2> Mortal`: sudo -s should give you a root shell
[07:42] <Mortal`> Thanks
[07:42] <Warbo> mjcs: parted, with guis like GParted and QTParted
[07:42] <jhenn> Warbo, in fluxbox its easy
[07:42] <Mortuis> How do I restart a process I stopped by accident with ctrl-z?
[07:42] <GaiaX11> Warbo, many thanks!
[07:42] <NoUse> mjcs defrag first and then use gparted
[07:42] <mjcs> Warbo: it doesnt like NTFS
[07:42] <mjcs> Warbo: well at least it hasn't so far
[07:42] <Newbify2> Mortuis: try bringing it to the foreground with fg
[07:42] <NoUse> mjcs I resized my ntfs partiton with gparted a couple weeks ago
[07:42] <Warbo> Newbify2: Actually, that seems to stay as the same user, but with root priviledges. 0s 0H seems to be root proper
[07:42] <NoUse> mjcs get the gparted live cd
[07:42] <NoUse> !tell mjcs about gparted
[07:42] <gpo> hi all
[07:43] <Warbo> mjcs: You need to install ntfstools (or something like that) and I've never had a pr0blem
[07:43] <gpo> i just installed ubuntu dapper and i've noticed that i have too many modules when i lsmod. Where can i delete some of them ?
[07:43] <Mortuis> Newbify2: That worked, thanks.
[07:43] <Warbo> Newbify2: I mean -s -H
[07:43] <mjcs> ah awesome thanks
[07:43] <Newbify2> Warbo: cool thanks for the info
[07:44] <Warbo> Newbify2: I found that out through using graphical apps from such a shell and ending up with config files in my home which I didn't have permission to access. Using sudo -s -H it made config files in /root
[07:45] <Newbify2> ah
[07:45] <NoUse> !tell gpo about blacklist
[07:45] <meyxiam> slt
[07:45] <dinamizador_begi> dsf
[07:45] <meyxiam> qqn s'y con en ssh??
[07:46] <Desh> Can anyone help me? I am logged in as root@(none) and need to change my passwd
[07:46] <lullabud> !es
[07:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:46] <meyxiam> sudo passwd
[07:46] <Warbo> Desh: If you are as root you can use "su username" to access your accound then "passwd newpassword"
[07:46] <NoUse> Desh passwd <username>
[07:47] <Warbo> NoUse: OK then
[07:47] <Desh> Ok when I use passwd root it says Authentication token lock busy
[07:47] <stip> Hi, I just set up my ATI radeon and a dual screen setup (one framebuffer). Does anyone know how to get the windows to maximize to just one screen instead of across both? This worked fine under Mandriva (KDE)?
[07:48] <Znuff> question, how do I install xfce on Ubuntu 6.06 Beta 2 ? as I'm getting some missing packages here and there
[07:48] <ditso> hi Kr0ntab
[07:48] <NoUse> Znuff sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <Desh> Ok when I use passwd root it says Authentication token lock busy
[07:49] <Znuff> NoUse: depends evince-gtk and xubuntu-system-tools =/
[07:49] <Desh> The only way for me to access root is by adding single init=/... to the kernel option in the GRUB menu.
[07:49] <NoUse> !tell Znuff about repos
[07:49] <bENqPL> emano
[07:49] <cubikdice> Is it possible to get Composit in Ubuntu Breezy?
[07:49] <Desh> If I try using recovery mode it asks for a pass, and I don't have a pass.
[07:50] <bENqPL> jak wlaczyc konto roota ?
[07:50] <mjcs> stip: do you use Xinerama?
[07:50] <bENqPL> zeby mozna bylo sie logowac?
[07:50] <Znuff> NoUse: so, I need Universe ?
[07:50] <NoUse> Znuff yes
[07:51] <Warbo> cubikdice: Install xcompmgr
[07:51] <Warbo> cubikdice: If you are in GNOME, that is
[07:51] <stip> jcs: I'm not quite sure what exactly Xinerama is... :P I use the ATI drivers and make it handle the two monitors as one big screen.
[07:51] <bENqPL> jest tu kurwa jakis polak?
[07:51] <cubikdice> Warbo, i am, now what (it's installed)
[07:52] <Warbo> cubikdice: OK, you want to add a line something like "xcompmgr -CFf" (I think, maybe -cCf) to your Session preferences, and put it before everything
[07:52] <mjcs> stip: ah well my setup is similar, I have " Option   "Xinerama"  " in my server layout section in xorg.conf. I think that deals with windows...
[07:53] <MM2>  /quit
[07:53] <Warbo> cubikdice: Run that in a terminal first to see what happens
[07:53] <stip> jcs: ah, thanks, I'll try that
[07:53] <amphi> !tell bENqPL about pl
[07:53] <Syco54645> does anyone here use k3b that could possibly help me with some problems that i am having with it?
[07:54] <cubikdice> Warbo, cubik@LOONiX:~$ xcompmgr -CFf
[07:54] <cubikdice> No composite extension
[07:54] <cubikdice> cubik@LOONiX:~$ xcompmgr -cCf
[07:54] <cubikdice> No composite extension
[07:54] <bENqPL> amphi THANKS
[07:54] <Warbo> cubikdice: Ah, OK. Do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and go to the bottom
[07:54] <amphi> bENqPL: ;)
[07:54] <CoOlGhOsT> its bloody sweet
[07:54] <Warbo> cubikdice: Wait a minute, what graphics card driver are you using?
[07:54] <CoOlGhOsT> :)
[07:55] <cubikdice> Warbo, nVidia 7800 GT 256 :D
[07:55] <Warbo> cubikdice: Driver? (nv or nvidia)
[07:55] <cubikdice> nvidia
[07:56] <Warbo> cubikdice: OK, I don't think Breezy has the latest version, so you have to decide between 3D graphics or Composite (can't use both at the same time)
[07:56] <Znuff> NoUse: still the same thing... could it be because I'm running 64bit ?
[07:56] <diablo> What do i need to do to make my ubuntu support wireless keyboard/mouse ?
[07:56] <cubikdice> Warbo, :O
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> diablo,  depends on the keyboard and mouse - Mine have always worked without any configuration at all.
[07:56] <cubikdice> is it possible to get both?
[07:56] <NoUse> Znuff not sure
[07:56] <Warbo> cubikdice: If you get the latest driver from nvidia.com (it's not in Breezy) or get Dapper
[07:56] <Syco54645> k3b refuses to burn at faster than 6x on my dvd burner even though it is 16x.  it doesnt use its nec burnfree technology and i cannot burn from the vob files.  i have to make an image first then it will burn, otherwise it will fail with a seek error.  i have dma on my dvd drive.  aparently these are common issues that people are having (so says google), but noone has come up with a fix for any of these according to google.  i am just w
[07:57] <Syco54645> ondering if i maybe configured something wrong or possibly have an incompatible drive.  i am currently building the newest in hopes that it will work for me.
[07:57] <Syco54645> wow that was long
[07:57] <diablo> Dr_Willis: but say my keyboard need any configuration...
[07:57] <cubikdice> Warbo, ok i'll go get it
[07:57] <brandon_> is there a wine channel?
[07:57] <cubikdice> Warbo, this shouldnt take long :)
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> diablo,  then we are back to square - where it depends on the specific keyboard.
[07:57] <NoUse> Znuff did you run apt-get update after updating your sources.list?
[07:57] <Znuff> NoUse: sure
[07:57] <diablo> Dr_Willis: why ? what can i do ?
[07:57] <NoUse> Znuff can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> diablo,  well lets see for a start there are BLUETOOTH keyboards.. then USB wireless keyboards...
[07:58] <Znuff> NoUse: just a sec.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> diablo,  googling for your exact keyboard and linux - would be a start.
[07:58] <diablo> allready did ...
[07:58] <Warbo> Syco54645: I don't have a DVD writer but I occasionally get problems with k3b which are sorted by using sudo k3b
[07:58] <Syco54645> Warbo: i always use sudo first
[07:58] <Znuff> uhm, think I'll be back in irssi in a few minutes
[07:58] <cubikdice> Warbo, i forgot, how should i go about installing this driver? get out of X right
[07:59] <Znuff> NoUse: well, I installed xubuntu-system-tools manually and seems that it works now
[07:59] <tristanmike> Warbo, Syco54645, you want to use "gksudo/gksu" for graphical apps in gnome
[07:59] <Warbo> cubikdice: Yes, ctrl-alt-f1 "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:59] <NoUse> Znuff ok
[07:59] <Syco54645> tristanmike:  what difference would that make
[07:59] <Warbo> cubikdice: Uninstall linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx first
[07:59] <cbtg2006> anyone familiar with pam_ldap?
[08:00] <tristanmike> Syco54645, using "sudo" with graphical apps can have a problem when it overwrites configuration files. "gksudo or gksu" are strictly for graphical apps
[08:00] <Warbo> tristanmike: That's why I use sudo -s -H to get config files in /root
[08:00] <tristanmike> Syco54645, and in Kubuntu it's "kdesu"
[08:01] <Syco54645> tristanmike: ah ok.  i will keep that in mind.  i am using ubuntu but running k3b since there is nothing as good as it at the moment
[08:01] <tristanmike> Warbo, yeah, but you don't want to start a graphical app with "sudo" and have it overwrite something
[08:01] <cubikdice> Warbo, for the linux-restricted-modules what one do i uninstall
[08:01] <Syco54645> tristanmike: would that fix my problem then?
[08:01] <Warbo> cubikdice: Whichever you have installed (as long as you don't need it's wifi drivers or anything)
[08:02] <cubikdice> Warbo, linux-restricted-modules-386 or the 686 one or linux-restricted-modules-common? or the ones with the kernel versions in them
[08:02] <Desh> I need help with groups. Can anyone help?
[08:02] <tristanmike> Syco54645, your DVD's must be the equal speed of your drive too, if you have a 9,000,000 x burner and a 1x DVD, it's still only going to burn at 1x
[08:02] <Warbo> cubikdice: All that are installed (unless you need them)
[08:03] <loststar4545> whats the differance between  logg off and restart
[08:03] <Syco54645> tristanmike: well they are 12x dvds but i cant even put it to 12.  i can do 6 max, and it burns only at like 3x that way
[08:03] <Desh> Log off means you can log in as a diff user. Restart means you reboot the PC. o_O
[08:03] <Davey`> loststar4545: the formet sends you back to the GDM login screen, the other restarts the entire PC
[08:03] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright here i go
[08:03] <Warbo> loststar4545: Log off sends you to the log in screen (or the previously logged in user if more than one is logged in) while restart will turn your computer off and on
[08:04] <mirak> does anyone noticed that xchat crashes when you are kicked ?
[08:04] <Warbo> mirak: I noticed that XChat crashes when it starts. I started using GAIM :)
[08:04] <tristanmike> Syco54645, did you run the "k3b setup" ?
[08:05] <Znuff> another question... is there the real xchat client in ubuntu? not xchat-gnome ? =/
[08:05] <thetallest> hello
[08:06] <Warbo> hello
[08:06] <gdb> Znuff: That *is* the real xchat.
[08:06] <Znuff> that's xchat-gnome, don't like it
[08:06] <gdb> Then you don't like xchat!
[08:06] <Znuff> I've been an xchat user for the last 4 years
[08:07] <tristanmike> !away
[08:07] <ubotu> away is, like, totally, Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages.
[08:07] <Znuff> xchat-gnome is really really ugly
[08:07] <mjcs> Znuff: original xchat is available
[08:07] <Znuff> mjcs: thanks
[08:07] <mjcs> Znuff: try Add/Remove Programs if in Dapper
[08:07] <Znuff> just as soon as I get xubuntu-desktop ready
[08:08] <cubik> Warbo: well i'm in irssi right now, and got 2 errors. 1) i got GCC 4.0 and aperantly thats a no no. 2) i dont have my kernel sources or something (cuz it couldnt find a matching kernel or something) now what?
[08:08] <Warbo> cubik: The kernel sources is fixed with linux-headers package
[08:08] <thetallest> I'm real new to the whole linux thing and need a little help
[08:09] <cubik> Warbo, as for the compiler?
[08:09] <kane77> thetallest what help??
[08:09] <Warbo> cubik: Maybe install gcc-3.4 package (you can have multiple installed) and "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc"
[08:09] <tristanmike> thetallest, sure, just fire away
[08:09] <mjcs> thetallest: just ask your question, if someone can help, they'll answer
[08:09] <HymnToLife> !justask
[08:09] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:10] <cubik> Warbo: alright i'll have another go
[08:10] <Syco54645>  yay k3b is done compiling... finally
[08:10] <chaz_> Hey ppl
[08:10] <thetallest> I'm a windows type and I'm lost with installing apps
[08:10] <tristanmike> !tell thetallest about synaptic
[08:10] <chaz_> Does anyone know where abouts Gaim is installed?
[08:10] <HymnToLife> !apt
[08:10] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[08:10] <tristanmike> !tell thetallest about universe
[08:10] <thetallest> I'm trying to install crownandcutlass but it's not doing what it should
[08:10] <Warbo> thetallest: 1) You don't need to download stuff from possibly untrustwaorth websites
[08:10] <thetallest> stew@Linux:~/Desktop/stuff/cc/CrownCutlass$ make
[08:10] <thetallest> make: sdl-config: Command not found
[08:10] <thetallest> g++ -ansi -Wall -Werror -g -O3 -march=i586 -mfpmath=387   -DTIXML_USE_STL -o src/Player.o -c src/Player.cpp
[08:10] <thetallest> make: g++: Command not found
[08:10] <thetallest> make: *** [src/Player.o]  Error 127
[08:10] <Warbo> !paste
[08:10] <ubotu> see <!pastebin> please
[08:11] <ompaul> chaz_, It is here /usr/bin/gaim but I guess that is not what you want
[08:11] <Warbo> !pastebin
[08:11] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[08:11] <mjcs> thetallest: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <chaz_> ompaul, i need to find where abouts to install themese for it lol
[08:11] <Warbo> thetallest: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <mjcs> then use synaptic to find SDL
[08:11] <thetallest> what does that do?
[08:11] <ompaul> thetallest, Please Do No Paste In This Channel  Thank You  ;-)
[08:11] <bobulooo> how do I update the dhcp configuration of a network interface from the command line?  In gentoo, I'd use dhcpcd ...
[08:11] <Warbo> thetallest: It installs the programs needed to build source code into programs
[08:11] <Asathoor> anyone here using Palm Pilot / Gnome?
[08:12] <tristanmike> thetallest, build-essential are a group of important compiling programs, not all of them, but the most important
[08:12] <thetallest> sorry about that ompaul
[08:12] <ompaul> thetallest, k
[08:12] <mjcs> bobulooo: no different in ubuntu..
[08:12] <thetallest> ok, gotcha
[08:13] <chaz_> ompaul, do you know where for example, the plugins folder is located please?
[08:13] <ompaul> chaz_, have a look in here:
[08:13] <chaz_> o ok
[08:13] <ompaul> chaz_, have a look in here: /usr/share/doc/gaim-data
[08:13] <chaz_> chers :)
[08:13] <chaz_> cheers*
[08:13] <Warbo> chaz_: Most needed files are in /usr/lib/programname
[08:13] <chaz_> oky doky thanks :)
[08:13] <chaz_> im not as much as a newbie as i was but im still learning, hehe :)
[08:13] <thetallest> cheers for that warbo and tristanmike
[08:14] <thetallest> I'm very much still at the "it's doing stuff W00T" stage
[08:14] <ompaul> thetallest, you never ever loose that one :)
[08:14] <cubik> Warbo: alright one error down, 1 to go. What was the gcc command again? i installed 3.4 but what came after?
[08:15] <Warbo> cubik: "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc" will change the link /usr/bin/gcc to point to 3.4 instead of 4.0
[08:15] <tanek> hi, how do i get dhclient to run at boot? :P didnt configure that during installation, since i didnt have a lan present at that time
[08:15] <chaz_> Hmm... ompaul , do you know where the Guificatons theme folder is located?
[08:15] <jared_> okay, i'm trying to install the 3d ati drivers. and i'mfollowing the directions in the hardware section of the ubuntu FAQ guide in help
[08:15] <thetallest> he he he tristanmike that was the first thing I found on source forge :P
[08:15] <chaz_> ok dont worry
[08:15] <chaz_> thanks anyway
[08:15] <jared_> i get this: jared@laptop:~/My Programs/Regatta$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:15] <jared_> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:16] <amphi> cubik: just setting the env var CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 should be enough I think
[08:16] <thetallest> ok.... now it did lots but just spammed src/glee.h:9863: error
[08:16] <chaz_> haha i cant even get fglrx to work
[08:16] <dli> tanek, edit your /etc/network/interfaces , something like , "  auto eth0  " , "  iface eth0 inet dhcp "
[08:16] <chaz_> *hits graphics card*
[08:17] <Warbo> amphi: Oh, I didn't know that. Anyway I've never had problems with my method
[08:17] <jared_> when i followed the nvidia steps at home(on my other pc) it worked great.
[08:17] <amphi> Warbo: no, you wouldn't - 'CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 make' or whatever is handy if you just need to use that compiler on the odd occasion
[08:17] <Oswyn> is there any way to do a basic server install of ubuntu and then install xwindows/fluxbox and still have autoconfiguration of X11?
[08:18] <ompaul> chaz_, which kind of video card
[08:18] <Warbo> amphi: This is for nvidia installer (latest version needed in Breezy to get composote+glx)
[08:18] <cubikdice> w00t!
[08:18] <NoUse> Oswyn there is a server install and then you can apt-get all the programs you want
[08:18] <tanek> thx dli
[08:18] <cubikdice> Warbo, nice :D now what
[08:19] <chaz_> ompaul, Sapphire ATI X800 GTO lol
[08:19] <dli> Oswyn, for X configuration, try " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[08:19] <Oswyn> dli: thats what i was looking for, thank you!
[08:19] <jared_> ompaul: i'm trying Radeon 7500
[08:20] <chaz_> ompaul, all that happens when I install it is i get a black screen lol
[08:20] <amphi> jared_: I have one of them
[08:20] <Warbo> cubikdice: Now you need to add these lines (I have put > for a new line) to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "enable" > EndSection
[08:20] <bobulooo> jcs, is there a way to automatically refresh your dhcp connection?  My wireless connection dies if I don't..
[08:20] <ompaul> jared_, chaz_  have a look at the message from the bot
[08:20] <ubuntu> DBO: hi any news?
[08:20] <chaz_> lol k
[08:20] <amphi> jared_: xorg supports 3d accel with the 'radeon' driver
[08:20] <chaz_> As of this writing the x800 cards are difficult to get working
[08:20] <chaz_> lol
[08:20] <amphi> chaz_: you don't say ;)
[08:21] <chaz_> amphi, have u done it?
[08:21] <Warbo> amphi: Whatever you want to call it I wouldn't use "accel" (in my experience anyway)
[08:21] <thetallest> how can I get terminal to kick out the results to a text file?
[08:21] <amphi> chaz_: no, i have a very trailing edge card
[08:21] <znuff> NoUse, more help please... remove gnome-desktop, installed xubuntu-desktop, still in gnome o.O
[08:21] <thetallest> I'm trying to install sommin and it keeps failing
[08:21] <chaz_> trailing edge?
[08:21] <jared_> ompaul: it says:The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500.
[08:21] <Warbo> thetallest: Put "> file" at the end (where file is the file you dump it to)
[08:22] <jared_> ompaul: i have 7500
[08:22] <ompaul> jared_, then use the ati driver that comes with ubuntu
[08:22] <dli> thetallest, try " blahblah &> foo.output "
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> thetallest: Usually 'command-that-spits-stuff-out > errorfile.txt' will do the trick.
[08:22] <NoUse> znuff you need to select xfce as the sesion in gdm
[08:22] <amphi> Warbo: on a radeon 7500 ? it works well here ( ~1000fps in glxgears), more than enough for celestia and stellarium, which is all I use it for
[08:22] <jared_> amphi: how did you install it?
[08:22] <cubikdice> Warbo, wanna pastebin your xorg.conf? so i can make sure i got it right
[08:22] <znuff> hmmm
[08:22] <znuff> let's see
[08:22] <ubuntu> DBO: bit like talking to myself
[08:22] <amphi> jared_: you need the kernel support and the xorg radeon driver, that's it
[08:22] <darkgod> hello
[08:22] <thetallest> cool, now who wants to look at an error file :P
[08:22] <dli> thetallest, or, " blahblah 2>&1 > foo.output ", " man bash " for more
[08:23] <darkgod> hello
[08:23] <Warbo> cubikdice: Well, I don't have Comosite enabled but I will pastebin an example
[08:23] <cubikdice> alright
[08:23] <jared_> amphi you mean xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:23] <ompaul> NoUse, you should change your nick to useful, because your worth it :-)
[08:24] <NoUse> ompaul haha, why thank you
[08:24] <darkgod> i have a dilema... i have no monitor pluged in my system, my problem is that my desktop screen through vnc in 640x480 max
[08:24] <amphi> Warbo: I have 'Option          "EnablePageFlip" "true"' which makes opengl progs behave strangely if you switch to a VT and back to X, but that's just a "don't do that then" ;)
[08:24] <darkgod> i think it;s because no videocard gets detected...
[08:24] <darkgod> how can i fix this any idea ?
[08:24] <ubuntu> ompaul; pass the choc's i want one
[08:24] <amphi> jared_: no, fglrx doesn't support that card AFAIK - the xorg radeon driver does, see man radeon
[08:24] <doped1> why do i get this message when i try to compile: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:25] <thetallest> what does "g++ -ansi -Wall -Werror -g -O3 -march=i586 -mfpmath=387   -DTIXML_USE_STL -o src/Player.o -c src/Player.cpp" mean?
[08:25] <Znuff> NoUse, now XGL and Compiz ?
[08:26] <mjcs> thetallest: it's compiling the source code into an application
[08:26] <NoUse> Znuff #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl
[08:26] <doped1> solved the prob
[08:26] <Znuff> thanks
[08:26] <darkgod> any one... bored enough .... so he could help me figure out something and find a solution
[08:26] <darkgod> ????
[08:26] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright i just made it look like the others
[08:26] <Warbo> cubikdice: I think that http://pastebin.com/733451 this is right (it is mine with the AllowGLXWithComposite added (which may not be needed anymore) and the extensions section
[08:26] <thetallest> ok but then it goes src/GLee.h:9863: error: `dpy' was not declared in this scope for thousands of lines
[08:27] <Ribs> you're missing some files
[08:27] <Ribs> (probably)
[08:27] <tanek> which xorg version is breezy running?
[08:27] <thetallest> ok...... how do I sort that?
[08:27] <mjcs> thetallest: it's a problem with the source code i would assume...
[08:27] <amphi> thetallest: er, gnu c++ compile ansi-conformant src showing all warnings include debugging symbols dangerous optimisations ;) for i586 cpu with 387 floating point support and define some symbol part of mplayer ;)
[08:27] <cubikdice> Warbo, ok cool
[08:27] <cubikdice> Warbo, so what now? restart X again?
[08:28] <thetallest> ok......
[08:28] <Warbo> cubikdice: Yes, then try that xcompmgr command
[08:28] <bobulooo> is there a way to deactive and reactivate a network interface from the command line?  (same as the network settings app does in gnome)
[08:28] <mjcs> lol amphi.. didn't think he wanted a literal translation!
[08:28] <darkgod> gess everyone is buzy... :D
[08:28] <amphi> mjcs: heh
[08:28] <dli> bobbyd,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:28] <darkgod> bobulooo: ifup/ifdonw
[08:28] <dli> bobulooo,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:28] <Warbo> cubikdice: One thing I have noticed with Composite though is that the panel sometimes goes behind the Nautilus background (annoying but easy to fix)
[08:28] <jorgg> when playing sounds in flashanimations, the volume isnt controlled by the the volume. How to fix?
[08:29] <jared_> amphi: i'm it won't pass cedega's glxgears test, not sure how fast that is, could you help me configure it?
[08:29] <loststar4545> can you over clock on linux
[08:29] <amphi> thetallest: actually, I was guessing about mplayer ;)
[08:29] <Warbo> jorgg: Should be controlled by the PCM volume
[08:29] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright brb :)
[08:29] <amphi> jared_: I can try - PM?
[08:29] <mjcs> loststar4545: overclocking is a hardware thing. nothing to do with what OS you're running..
[08:29] <thetallest> amphi: got any ideas what I need to do to get this to work?
[08:29] <Warbo> loststar4545: I have overclocked my Athlon using the BIOS
[08:29] <jorgg> Warbo: how can i make one volume for all sound?
[08:30] <jared_> amphi: what do you mean by PM??
[08:30] <amphi> jared_: private message
[08:30] <bobulooo> dli, thanks.  I think that's what I'm looking for -- really just want to update a dhcp connection every now and then
[08:30] <loststar4545> can you overclock a Graphics card
[08:30] <darkgod> Warbo: i see your a pro... do you know how i could prevent my ubuntu desktop to run on 640x480, when i boot my machine with no monitor pluged in ?
[08:30] <Subhuman> loststar4545, yes, if itz nvidia.
[08:30] <Warbo> jorgg: That's what Master is for (PCM is for all "Wave" type sound [not MIDI and stuff] )
[08:30] <doped1> when i configure "genius-0.7.4", and i try to "make", I get the folowing error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.  what to do?
[08:30] <Subhuman> loststar4545, "sudo apt-get install nvclock" and dont go crazy :D
[08:30] <cubikdice> w00t
[08:30] <mjcs> loststar4545: ask google.
[08:30] <cubikdice> alright
[08:30] <loststar4545> i have a nvidia graphics card how do i overclock it
[08:30] <jared_> amphi: sry, never set that up before
[08:31] <Warbo> darkgod: Sorry, no idea (and I laugh at being called a pro!)
[08:31] <cubikdice> Warbo, i can see it working, but i didnt see the nvidia logo this time
[08:31] <Subhuman> loststar4545, jus said :D
[08:31] <Subhuman> Subhuman> loststar4545, "sudo apt-get install nvclock"
[08:31] <Warbo> cubikdice: Did you add the "Option "NoLogo" "true"" to your xorg.conf? That gets rid of it
[08:31] <darkgod> Warbo: from my perspective ... YEES YOU ARE... :p
[08:31] <cubikdice> Warbo, no...
[08:31] <jorgg> Warbo: i cheked it. My PCM is set to zero, but still flash sounds is very high
[08:32] <amphi> thetallest: it's hard to say what the cause of the problem is, apart from dpy not being declared as the compiler says
[08:32] <jared_> amhpi: what do you want me to do??
[08:32] <kane777> hi...
[08:32] <darkgod> do you guys have a forum ... as well maybe someon could help me there with my problem ... :-s
[08:32] <Warbo> darkgod: Been using Linux for about 18 months (before that I used win 3.1, 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4 all in 2001, and before that AmigaOS since 1992)
[08:32] <nicolas_> hi, i just switched to ubuntu and my speaker icon for the mixer just beside the clock disappeared in my ChaninDoojle gnome themes, im trying get the icon picture from another theme, and i cant find any of them in other themes, does anyone knows how it that file named ?
[08:32] <amphi> jared_: identify to services ;) do /msg nickserv help identify if you don't know how
[08:32] <mjcs> darkgod: www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:33] <cubikdice> Warbo, and now i have no GLX
[08:33] <t-thing> Hi. Why does the default directory permissions give read and write permissions for everybody?
[08:33] <darkgod> Warbo: me too .... :)) only i am using linux 2 monts....
[08:33] <nicolas_> or how can i modifiy the icon that the volume controller gnome applet is using ?
[08:33] <darkgod> mjcs: thx ....
[08:33] <Warbo> cubikdice: Hmmm. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and try setting it up there
[08:33] <jared_> amphi: id'd
[08:33] <preglow> is it common for the dapper upgrade routine to vomit on nvidia-glx?
[08:33] <jared_> amphi: done.
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> t-thing: That depends on the directory - defaults will be whatever it thinks makes the most sense generally for that location.
[08:34] <mjcs> Warbo: lol, you sued AmigaOS until 2001?!
[08:34] <cubikdice> Warbo, well this only happened after the composite thing was insterted
[08:34] <mjcs> *used
[08:34] <Madangren> How do I open a program as root in Ubuntu?  I opened a terminal and ran "su" but the root account doesn't seem to be activated.  It has no password.
[08:34] <Flannel> Madangren: sudo
[08:34] <mjcs> Madangren: sudo, or gksudo
[08:34] <Warbo> mjcs: I still do! (3.0 because my 3.9 never arrived)
[08:34] <Madangren> So I would type "sudo ark" to open ark as root?
[08:34] <mjcs> lol
[08:34] <cubikdice> Warbo, ah crap how many KB is 256MB
[08:35] <mjcs> Madangren: yup.
[08:35] <jorgg> why is flash sound volume still very high after Ive turn down the volume?
[08:35] <t-thing> tonyyarusso: Well example for home directories which 755 default - that give read permissions for everybody on the computer, doesn't it?
[08:35] <Warbo> mjcs: Actually, now that I have bought Moho I don't really have a use for AmigaOS (except it is faster than EUAE)
[08:35] <Madangren> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[08:35] <mo^> Madangren, or you can type "gksudo ark"
[08:35] <Tormentoso> Hello.
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> t-thing: Yes.
[08:35] <Warbo> cubikdice: You don't need to enter anything unless it is "shared memory" (built into motherboard)
[08:35] <ompaul> darkgod, if you want mailing lists we have a few: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ the user help one is a mirror of some part of the forums
[08:35] <Madangren> gksudo worked.  Thank you all ^_^
[08:36] <Tormentoso> Do anybody knows how to make work USB ADSL Modem Amigo CA80/85?
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> t-thing: I guess someone decided home directories generally aren't secret, and if they are, you would bother the set that?
[08:36] <t-thing> tonyyarusso: That doesn't make sense to me. And I created a new directory on my home directory and it has the same permissions. I don't want everybody who has accounts on this computer to read my files.
[08:36] <mjcs> Warbo: Moho.. as in cartoon animation?
[08:36] <Warbo> mjcs: Yes
[08:36] <cubikdice> Warbo, use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[08:36] <mjcs> Warbo: ooh interesting
[08:36] <Warbo> mjcs: It actually beats DPaint (GAP doesn't!)
[08:36] <mjcs> lol
[08:36] <Warbo> cubikdice: I said no, not sure what it does really
[08:36] <t-thing> tonyyarusso: Interesting choice.
[08:37] <phreekbird> ok what are the major issues with dapper? i mean dose it work well with dri, cedega and stuff like that? (currently using ubuntu breezy and dri is not working at all)
[08:37] <phreekbird> 40%downloading xubuntu
[08:38] <jjazz> phreekbird: My issue with dapper is that it's kernel locked my box
[08:38] <Pyru> Hello I need some help please, I installed webmin and I cant seem to completely uninstall it :S
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> t-thing: I think if you change the permissions on the directory itself that will change the defaults for new subdirectories.  Like, 'chmod 700 /home/user' so it ends up as drwx------.
[08:38] <Warbo> jjazz: New security features :)
[08:38] <jjazz> Warbo: Perhaps they're a tad overzealous. ;)
[08:39] <t-thing> tonyyarusso: nope, doesn't work that way.
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> t-thing: Hmm...
[08:39] <jjazz> t-thing: Perhaps you want to research setting your umask.
[08:39] <phreekbird> ok has anyone else had a malformed box? not saying its not a problem with dapper jjazz but it could just be a fluke, how many other peoples boxes are toast?
[08:40] <jjazz> phreekbird: My box isn't toast.  I restored from a breezy backup and I'm fine now.  No permanent damage. :)
[08:40] <t-thing> jjazz: is umask the default permission setting? How do I do that?
[08:40] <Pyru> Hello I need some help please, I installed webmin and I cant seem to completely uninstall it :S
[08:40] <Warbo> phreekbird: Mine is fine, as is my Dad's (upgraded over the weekend now that I know how to get eagle-usb installed on 2.6.15) but those were upgrades, not fresh Dapper installs
[08:40] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright, restart X?
[08:40] <dataangel> Why doesn't the kernel-source-2.6.15 package decompress and create a symbolic link for /usr/src/linux? That's how it's behaved on the last two distros I tried. It just seems to dump a .tar.bz2 of the source into /usr/src.
[08:40] <Warbo> cubikdice: Yep
[08:40] <jjazz> t-thing: I've not actually messed with it.  man umask and go from there.
[08:41] <Warbo> dataangel: Do they go into /lib/modules/kernelversion/build? (just curious because I forgot)
[08:41] <t-thing> jjazz: no entry for umask
[08:41] <jjazz> that's weird.
[08:41] <t-thing> jjazz: man mount
[08:42] <Falstius> dataangel: /usr/src/linux has been depricated for years.
[08:42] <Falstius> it should go into /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-long-string
[08:42] <dataangel> Warbo: Nope, actually the reason I'm looking at this at all is I'm trying to follow a tutorial for how to make kernel modules (adding a "Hellow world!" entry to /proc) and it seems the ubuntu packages don't create /lib/modules/kernelversion/build (the build folder is missing) which is problematic. I haven't compiled the kernel yet though so that could also be the cause...
[08:42] <jjazz> t-thing: Well, it sure looks like you can set the umask on a volume when you mount it.  Maybe google has something relevant.
[08:43] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright i got GLX again. but no logo comes up and xcompmgr doesnt work anymore
[08:43] <Warbo> cubikdice: Hmmm. Try glxinfo and see if it is using software
[08:43] <julle> hello anyone that could help me for a while??
[08:43] <md1975> hola a todos
[08:44] <julle> got some prob with my rights and mounting..
[08:44] <cubikdice> Warbo. alot of crap comes up, how do i tell?
[08:44] <Warbo> cubikdice: Hang on...
[08:44] <jjazz> t-thing: What happens if you do umask at the command line?
[08:44] <t-thing> jjazz: it might be worth looking, but I'll do that later. It still puzzles me, why on earth this kind of default choise has been made. There must be some reason for it, but still.
[08:44] <cubikdice> Warbo, alrigh
[08:44] <md1975> alguien me puede ayudar??
[08:44] <t-thing> jjazz: gives a numerical value, the umask i guess
[08:44] <kmilo> md1975, #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <Warbo> cubikdice: Look for Mesa Indirect
[08:45] <jjazz> t-thing: You don't have to change the umask at mount.  Just do 'umask 0077' at the command line and you'll be set to not give anybody besides you any perms at all.
[08:45] <yukonho> I've got a hard drive that refuses to be partitioned by the ubuntu installer or GParted.  What are my other options?
[08:45] <cubikdice> Warbo, nope doesnt say that anywhere
[08:45] <t-thing> jjazz: 0077 translates to 700?
[08:45] <Warbo> cubikdice: Then your driver should be working (mine isn't but that's another story)
[08:45] <t-thing> jjazz: How do I set this system wide?
[08:45] <md1975> ok thankx and sorry
[08:45] <jjazz> t-thing: Yes.  You subtract it from 777. (This is from http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/lsh/feb-02/Security-HOWTO-5.html)
[08:45] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright
[08:46] <jjazz> t-thing: That I don't know, sorry.  Ask google.
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> would
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> 00 06   * * *   root    /etc/cron.custum/p2p
[08:46] <julle> inte ngon som har lust att hjlpa lite?
[08:46] <Warbo> cubikdice: Hang on there is a nice program I found that you might like. Give me a minute
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> work to run the script every morning @ 0600?
[08:46] <t-thing> jjazz: oright. Thanks, you've been most helpful.
[08:46] <cubikdice> Warbo, alright cool
[08:46] <jjazz> t-thing: no problem.  Good luck.
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> as root user?
[08:47] <nicolas_> how to choose an icon for mixer_applet?
[08:47] <julle> Could anyone help me how to login as root om my system??
[08:47] <roryy> !tell julle about root
[08:48] <amphi> julle: if you don't know how to do it, you shouldn't ;)
[08:48] <roryy> julle: in short, use sudo. the wiki page explains more
[08:49] <seb_> does anyone know where to get .wmv codec for totem
[08:49] <Warbo> cubikdice: The program I am after is gcompmgr, but I can't find an Ubuntu package of it, but I did find this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[08:49] <roryy> julle: i see a #ubuntu-se -- if your first language is swedish, you might prefer that.
[08:49] <Warbo> seb_: Totem gstreamer or Totem Xine?
[08:50] <mkohler> When I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, my System->Administration menu was stripped. Now I only have "Network Tools", "Printing", "System Log", and "System Monitor". Does anyone know how to reset that menu? I've tried removing all of my .gnome[2]  dirs.
[08:50] <seb_> gstreamer 0.8.11
[08:50] <seb_> gstreamer 0.8.11
[08:51] <seb_> sorry i dont know how to private message
[08:51] <seb_> im a noob
[08:51] <Warbo> seb_: If you have Universe then install all of the plugin packages you can for gstreamer and try it then. If not maybe use Xine (I do) [unless it is a wmv10 or something]
[08:51] <phreekbird> its /msg nameofperson message goes here ... i think
[08:51] <lsuactiafner> how do i set the default kde player to mplayer?
[08:52] <seb_> Warbo: where can i find the plugin pakages
[08:52] <Warbo> lsuactiafner: In Konqueror settings you can change default actions for file types
[08:52] <Warbo> !tell seb_ about universe
[08:52] <lsuactiafner> k
[08:52] <dataangel> Falstius: Why would you want to deprecate /usr/src/linux? Most of the differences between the -x package versions are little tweaks, and a deb could update the symlink each time anyway. I always understood it to mean " pointing to source of current kernel version". How can that be outdated? :P
[08:53] <dataangel> Falstius: And it's outdated according to who? Seems current if most distros still do it ;p
[08:53] <Warbo> dataangel: 2.6.12 and 2.6.115 and stuff like that have their own kernel sources, but nothing more minor
[08:53] <Warbo> 2.6.15 sorry
[08:54] <dataangel> Warbo: All the more reason then :P
[08:55] <dataangel> Does anyone know what I should be substituting for /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/build in my kernel module makefiles? I'm just trying to make a simple example work but it complains the build folder just isn't there :P
[08:56] <Warbo> dataangel: Do you have the headers installed?
[08:56] <dataangel> Warbo: Yep.
[08:56] <Warbo> dataangel: OK then
[08:56] <dataangel> Warbo. linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686
[08:56] <dataangel> Warbo: kernel-package too because I thought it might be related but apparently not
[08:56] <kyath> anyone have luck with their mx1000 on dapper
[08:56] <madmeix> #hv.css
[08:56] <Warbo> dataangel: You and your lousy 2.6.15-23. I make do with a measly 2.6.15-18!
[08:56] <dataangel> Warbo: lol.
[08:57] <amphi> dataangel: kernel-package is for building kernels + modules and creating a .deb from them
[08:57] <dataangel> Warbo: AMD64?
[08:57] <Warbo> dataangel: Nope. I'm running from USB HD booted from CD, and I forgot how I made the CD so I can't update the kernel on it
[08:57] <kyath> dapper chat room
[08:58] <NoUse> !tell kyath about dapper
[08:58] <kyath> not working
[08:58] <NoUse> kyath /join #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <tanek> where do i find my usb HD so i can mount it?
[08:58] <kyath> nice one
[08:58] <Warbo> tanek: Usually /dev/sda
[08:58] <tanek> thx
[08:59] <tanek> same mount commands as regular hds?
[08:59] <Warbo> tanek: Yes (with partitions as sda1, sda2 and stuff. Don't try to mount the device itself!)
[09:00] <tanek> ;P ill check that out
[09:00] <iNiku> do the ubuntu kernel source pkgs contain the default ubuntu configuration in addition to the ubuntu patches?
[09:00] <tanek> Warbo, dont have any /dev/sda device :/
[09:01] <Warbo> tanek: Is it plugged in? (also check for sdb, sdc and stuff)
[09:01] <tanek> ye its plugged in
[09:01] <t-thing> jjazz: I ended up with 027 umask
[09:01] <[NP] Tangent> do any of you know of any repositories that have the Muse music program available?
[09:01] <mr_hus> Does the freetype build available from the ubuntu repositories support BCI?? Or you need to build it yourself?
[09:01] <cubikdice> w00t
[09:02] <jjazz> t-thing: Sounds reasonable to me.
[09:02] <Warbo> cubikdice: Everything OK now?
[09:02] <tanek> dont have any devices starting with sd ;/
[09:02] <cubikdice> Warbo, hold on gonna check glx
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: yes, it supports it.
[09:02] <cubikdice> Warbo, yup
[09:02] <cubikdice> bloody perfect :D
[09:02] <cubikdice> thanks you so much
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: it does not, however, use Apple's patented stuff.
[09:03] <Warbo> cubikdice: You can mess around with timing and stuff for fades and edit the command in your session
[09:03] <cubikdice> yeah, i'd like it to fad a bit faster
[09:03] <Warbo> cubikdice: man xcompmgr then
[09:03] <cubikdice> am already on it :)
[09:04] <mr_hus> crimsun: does a good job anyway or apple's patented stuff does a better job?
[09:04] <Warbo> cubikdice: Also look for gcompmgr and xtransset
[09:04] <cubikdice> alright
[09:04] <crimsun> mr_hus: seems fine to me, and we're not permitted to distribute Apple's patented stuff anyhow
[09:04] <mr_hus> crimsun: im still not quite satisfied with how the fonts get rendered on my box...
[09:04] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, muse sequencer is in universe in breezy
[09:04] <[NP] Tangent> ah
[09:04] <[NP] Tangent> cool
[09:04] <[NP] Tangent> thanks
[09:04] <C|int> crimsun,  :D
[09:05] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/muse
[09:05] <mr_hus> crimsun: but if i wanted i could build freetype myself with the patented stuff right?
[09:05] <jorgg> how can i make flash play sounds to alsa so i can controll the volume?
[09:05] <crimsun> mr_hus: no, you can't
[09:05] <Falstius> dataangel: because it encourages people to just look at /usr/src/linux instead of checking the version .. leads to a lot of badly made modules.  And it isn't hard to define CFLAGs=-I /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` instead of /usr/src/linux.
[09:05] <Warbo> jorgg: If they don't play to ALSA then you don;t have any sound :)
[09:06] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, do you know this? http://ubuntustudio.com
[09:06] <[NP] Tangent> no I don't
[09:06] <[NP] Tangent> I'll check it out
[09:06] <jorgg> warbo: i have sound when not playing other sounds. But then i cant controll the volume..
[09:06] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, have fun :)
[09:06] <Warbo> jorgg: Unless you are still using OSS
[09:06] <crimsun> Falstius: better yet is to use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build as Linus insists
[09:06] <jorgg> Warbo: what should i use? OSS alsa ESD?
[09:07] <Warbo> jorgg: I get that problem with not playing sound when other apps are, but that is probably due to Flash playing to ALSA (a bad thing, it should do it to a proper sound server like ESD)
[09:07] <jared_> amphi: I'm back
[09:07] <ubuntu> amphi: hi hows it going
[09:07] <NoUse> Warbo why should it play to ESD when ALSA is replacing ESD?
[09:07] <jorgg> so alsa and OSS is no good?
[09:07] <Falstius> crimsun: you're probably right.
[09:08] <Warbo> jorgg: ALSA plays all of your sound. OSS is just emulated by ALSA. ESD is a sound server, which would let you play other sounds at the same time (but Flash doesn't use it) I don't have any experience with your problem though, so I can't offer any practical advice
[09:08] <NoUse> jorgg ALSA is the new standard, so use that when possible
[09:08] <jared_> amphi: Still no direct rendering
[09:08] <jorgg> Warbo: okay
[09:08] <Subhuman> Flash lags, because FF makes it go through itz own dsp, then output
[09:08] <jorgg> NoUse: okay
[09:08] <ubuntu> nickrud: desk-loked, now jaw better good  happy for you
[09:09] <Warbo> jorgg: Keep away from Artsd on pain of death!
[09:09] <jorgg> waky, hehe okay
[09:09] <groo> hi guys
[09:09] <jorgg> Warbo, hehe okay
[09:09] <C|int> my connection hasn't been pesky, and laptop is smokin :P
[09:09] <amphi> hi ubuntu
[09:09] <waky> what ?
[09:09] <groo> how do i get the trash, etc... icons on my desktop?
[09:09] <ubuntu> amphi: hi there
[09:09] <jorgg> waky,: sorry wrong nickcomplete nick..
[09:10] <Warbo> groo: Applications>System Tools>Configuration Editor >Apps>Nautilus>Desktop
[09:10] <groo> thanks very much Warbo
[09:10] <cubikdice> Warbo, so incase the panel bug you were explaining happens, what should i do?
[09:11] <C|int> amphi,  :D
[09:11] <Warbo> cubikdice: run "killall gnome-panel" and that will stop the panel and it will restart itself above everything (although stuff run from it may close as well, like my gdesklets and gaim do)
[09:11] <C|int> seen you hangin out in debian chan :D
[09:11] <ubuntu> amphi; lots of people getting excited about D ?
[09:11] <cubikdice> oh ok
[09:12] <[NP] Tangent> man
[09:12] <[NP] Tangent> I love apt-get
[09:12] <mo^> [NP] Tangent, aptitude rocks more.
[09:12] <[NP] Tangent> Windows has nothing on Ubuntu linux
[09:12] <[NP] Tangent> I'm never going back
[09:12] <Falstius> I'm running dapper now .. when they release it as stable, I'll destabalize it by installing XGL :)
[09:12] <Warbo> What do people think of apt-plus.com? It makes me shudder :)
[09:12] <[NP] Tangent> what's aptitude?
[09:13] <mo^> [NP] Tangent, an alternative.
[09:13] <mo^> and it is better than apt-get
[09:13] <ubuntu> [NP] Trangent;make a little bed for it
[09:13] <knanand> how can i test the latest version of ubuntu Dapper
[09:13] <NoUse> C|int this is an ubuntu support channel, we're happy that you are so happy with BSD but please save it
[09:13] <adambrady> Hey I am having issues with cd/dvd burning. K3B's Debugging output lists the following errors:/usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
[09:13] <adambrady> /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
[09:13] <adambrady> /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
[09:13] <adambrady> Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[09:13] <adambrady> : Operation not permitted
[09:13] <mo^> knanand, live-cd?
[09:13] <NoUse> !tell adambrady about paste
[09:13] <adambrady> can anyone help me?
[09:13] <[NP] Tangent> ubuntu, I think I might
[09:13] <[NP] Tangent> :D
[09:13] <Warbo> C|int: I had a smokin laptop once. The batteries had electrolised themselves (that's actually true, but it was 66MHz, so no worries)
[09:13] <NoUse> !tell adambrady about flood
[09:14] <[NP] Tangent> !tell [NP] Tangent about paste
[09:14] <knanand> can i download single packages from repos
[09:14] <NoUse> knanand http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:14] <apokryphos> knanand: yes
[09:14] <scottt106> Does anyone know if the Rhythmbox package in the repositories is compiled with DAAP support?
[09:14] <C|int> No, I was happy with ubuntu, but it didn't off me that much speed. and BSD so so dang stable lol.. and my network hasn't had a glitich :P
[09:15] <ubuntu> [NP] Trangent what sort of bedding were you thibking of?
[09:15] <Warbo> C|int: WAS? I hope you dual boot!
[09:15] <C|int> hey Warbo , and I just love the fact, BSD has sadi they will be competing with linux :D
[09:15] <ubuntu_> Hello ... I am using Ubuntu-live ... how can I mount my hard disk ?
[09:15] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[09:15] <[NP] Tangent> quick question
[09:15] <C|int> nah, going down to College to get, FreeBSD 6.1 ;)
[09:15] <[NP] Tangent> how do I start Jack up?
[09:16] <C|int> Warbo, ,  Arcronis Disk Director Suite :-)
[09:16] <knanand> which repos can i use
[09:16] <apokryphos> BSD is very good, too
[09:16] <C|int> ->   www.acronis.com
[09:16] <knanand> for Dapper
[09:16] <Warbo> C|int: Yeah, great idea to fight the ~4% desktop userbase
[09:16] <C|int> yep yep :D
[09:16] <apokryphos> I'd be happy using it if GNU/Linux wasn't available
[09:16] <ubuntu_> Should I use the mount command ? Any graphic shortcut ?
[09:16] <C|int> yea , I'm not hating, ubuntu has some of the best hardware detection, out of all linux systems,
[09:16] <scottt106> Does anyone know if the Rhythmbox package in the repositories is compiled with DAAP support?
[09:17] <C|int> I am waiting on the new ubuntu LTS, thanks to ubuntu and all the support team, however, that time has some time.. so.. :-)
[09:17] <ubuntu> ubuntu_  mount  /dev/hda  /mnt
[09:17] <C|int> heya ubuntu :P
[09:17] <apokryphos> all linux systems generally have the same decent hardware detection; easy to detect the hardware, not as easy to handle it
[09:17] <ubuntu_> Thanks ... :-)
[09:17] <C|int> yep
[09:17] <knanand> in which repo can i find Dapper packages??
[09:17] <apokryphos> Ubuntu doesn't handle printers well, though, for example
[09:17] <C|int> I not hatin.. thats why I like it here, maybe I can offer some help, with backwards unix :D
[09:17] <T`> would dapper drake flight 7 be 6.07?
[09:17] <apokryphos> knanand: single packages? See on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <phreekbird> xubuntu 92% done! wooot
[09:17] <C|int> I'm just saying,, to be honest, with something,
[09:17] <T`> or is that still 6.06?
[09:17] <ubuntu_> Sorry ... I know it's a basic command ...but all my personnal notes are on my harddisk ...Thanks ...
[09:18] <NoUse> ubuntu you meant /dev/hda1 I think
[09:18] <C|int> I sort of. hacked my cable modem :p
[09:18] <drkat> why does jre and even blackmagic packages screw up java chat applets, they do not re-draw
[09:18] <NoUse> ubuntu_ its probably /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda
[09:18] <apokryphos> T`: no, still 6.06. 60.6 is the real release name, the last two digits are the month of the year
[09:18] <adambrady> I am having trouble burning CD's. Can someone help me?
[09:18] <brovold> flight 7 is the seventh alpha for 6.06, the 6.06 final comes june 1st
[09:18] <Mortal`> Is there a hotkey to change workspaces like Alt+tab?
[09:18] <T`> apokryphos, oh ok.. thanks
[09:18] <C|int> i know it does
[09:18] <T`> bronson, thanks
[09:18] <apokryphos> adambrady: not if you don't explain the problem 8)
[09:18] <NoUse> adambrady and don't paste here
[09:18] <apokryphos> Mortal`: ctrl+tab
[09:19] <C|int> I"ve tested 4, and last alpha, before they put the devel freeze
[09:19] <Mortal`> apokryphos, doesn't work?
[09:19] <t-thing> jjazz: that whole security howto is good reading
[09:19] <cubikdice> Warbo, hey, ever have a problem with logging out? When i got composite running, when i click logout under system, it freezes...and i have to restart X
[09:19] <apokryphos> Mortal`: hm, could be restricted to KDE.
[09:19] <adambrady> It acts like it burns. I have tried k3b, gnomebaker and serpentine.
[09:19] <cors> Need help: gksudo "update-manager -d"  failed to complete due to a system shutdown. Can I resume the upgrade from the console ?
[09:19] <ubuntu> NoUse: yes sorry mount /dev/hda1  /mnt
[09:19] <C|int> once ubuntu, is able to be Plug N Play, with wireless.. I will give dem props :D
[09:19] <ubuntu_> What is the password for root in Ubuntu-live ?
[09:19] <jjazz> t-thing: Yep.  If you're new to Linux, learning the basics of security is important.
[09:19] <phreekbird> no password i think
[09:19] <NoUse> !tell ubuntu_ about root
[09:19] <C|int> especialy on them dang acer laptops.. arghh.... >_<   ,  I got 1..  >_<
[09:19] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, I use qjackctl, a front end for jack. On ubuntustudio you'll get a studio launcher that may help in getting music apps to start up properly. Also pay attention to realtime issues, I'm using set_rlimits for that.
[09:19] <apokryphos> ubuntu_: it uses sudo, not conventioanl root system. See /msg ubotu sudo
[09:20] <ubuntu> ubuntu_ there is not one make one with passwd
[09:20] <drkat> C|int absolutely right
[09:20] <C|int> I don't discriminate against any system, whether it linux or unix
[09:20] <ubuntu_> ok ...thanks
[09:20] <adambrady> It goes through the motions of burning the disc but when you try to read the disc it comes back as blank
[09:20] <drkat> well my biggest let down is PnP
[09:21] <C|int> I"m just pushing myself as a Systems Engineer , and at my College, so I can be an advanced user, I mean, hardly anyone uses linux and noone uses FreeBSD at all,
[09:21] <C|int> I like using something, that is rare to people.
[09:21] <C|int> yep
[09:21] <Mortal`> I'll try again :), is there a hotkey to change workspaces like Alt+tab?
[09:21] <Stormx2> Stupid MSN...
[09:21] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, for dedicated linux audio help, there's also #lad (linux audio developers and users), and, I believe, also #ubuntustudio.
[09:21] <ranpha> question . is there a more advanced program with a GUI for configuring samba??
[09:21] <C|int> I was watching, Linus Torvalds gettin dumped in water , it was some gig going on, maybe look old, it was hillarious :P
[09:21] <roryy> Mortal`: in gnome, Ctl+Alt+Left arrow / right-arrow should work
[09:22] <NoUse> C|int could you continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:22] <Mortal`> roryy, thanks a lot, it works
[09:22] <t-thing> jjazz: It's a bit shame to admit that I'm not. I never just got around to read about umasks. I do know something about security, luckily. That network security section is bit short, gotta find longer document on that.
[09:22] <sip> hi, spanish chanel please...?
[09:22] <roryy> !es
[09:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:22] <groo> i just installed dapper and i cant find configuration editor what is it's name for the cli?
[09:22] <brovold> gconf-editor?
[09:22] <mormoloc> ok i receive the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14557 when compiling  vim7. What does it mean?
[09:22] <groo> i dont have system tools on my appplications menu
[09:23] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, sorry, it's #ubuntu-studio
[09:23] <groo> ok thankls
[09:23] <ranpha> question . is there a more advanced program with a GUI for configuring samba??
[09:23] <tristanmike> mormoloc, did you install "build-essential" ?
[09:24] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[09:24] <mormoloc> what are those
[09:24] <[NP] Tangent> I'll try this Ubuntu Studio thing out
[09:24] <harrisonk> is there anything special I have to do to setup a server ?
[09:24] <sybariten3> hey, i fiddled a bit with apt trying to install tomdoc or tomboy or whatever its called
[09:24] <tristanmike> mormoloc, they are a set of "essential" compiling packages
[09:24] <sybariten3> well, i didnt succeed
[09:24] <harrisonk> I ran srcds and checked on canyouseeme.org and it didn't show the port as being open
[09:24] <[NP] Tangent> mormoloc, build-essential is in Synaptic
[09:25] <[NP] Tangent> you'll want it
[09:25] <ubuntu> still in live cd no hope i guess
[09:25] <adambrady> I guess no one has an answer to my issue?
[09:25] <sybariten3> it complains about libgnome-cil, among others. However, i am now trying to install "Octave", and i get a similar error message. This was through apt.  Linux audio is a bit of a hassle still, so prepare for a bit of reading and tinkering.
[09:26] <[NP] Tangent> my volume keys work with ubuntu
[09:26] <[NP] Tangent> woohoo
[09:26] <harrisonk> anyone have experience with srcds in ubuntu?
[09:26] <sybariten3> because apt-get install octave complains about mono, for instance. And i dont think octave needs mono.
[09:26] <NoUse> adambrady how did you install cdrecord?
[09:26] <tristanmike> adambrady, are the discs still blank? or are they empty (written to, but no data) ?
[09:26] <C|int> see ya :D
[09:26] <adambrady> I installed CDRecord using Synaptic. The CD's are blank.
[09:27] <scottt106> Easy question:  Where can I see what version of ubuntu I am running, as far as warty/hoary/dapper/breezy?
[09:27] <tristanmike> adambrady, forgive the stupid question, but are you sure you don't have simulation checked ?
[09:27] <roryy> scottt106: run 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal
[09:27] <NoUse> adambrady in the error you pasted you were getting messages with cdrecord in /usr/bin/X11
[09:27] <adambrady> lol yeah i'm sure.
[09:27] <scottt106> thanks rorry
[09:28] <adambrady> you think if i re install it it will fix the issue?
[09:28] <[NP] Tangent> so Sanne
[09:28] <[NP] Tangent> you probably make music too, right?
[09:28] <[NP] Tangent> what kind of music do you make?
[09:28] <NoUse> adambrady I'm not sure how cdrecord got into that directory
[09:28] <NoUse> adambrady are you using all default synaptic repos?
[09:28] <adambrady> yes
[09:29] <racestoapril1> hi
[09:29] <racestoapril1> i have a question
[09:29] <NoUse> adambrady which release of ubuntu are you running?
[09:29] <adambrady> 5.10
[09:30] <ranpha> question . is there a more advanced program with a GUI for configuring samba??
[09:30] <jorgg> Warbo: ah.. finally fixed it! :) had to set aoss as the wrapper for dsp in firefox, and install alsa-oss. Now it works :)
[09:30] <NoUse> adambrady yeah I would try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall cdrecord'
[09:30] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent, I don't really *make* it right now, I'm still trying to find my music setup. My direction right now would be electronic music, but in the future I would also like to record voice, guitar and sax. But I fear we are getting a bit offtopic here...
[09:30] <kmilo> ranpha, swat
[09:31] <tuxinafedora> hey'
[09:31] <racestoapril1> i have version 5.4 for intel and i can't get mp3 files to load
[09:31] <adambrady> ok I will give that a shot when I get back from picking up my son from school. Thanks for your help NoUse!
[09:31] <NoUse> !tell racestoapril1 about mp3
[09:31] <ranpha> kmilo..thnx..i just clicked it to install...was trying it ouy
[09:31] <Cope> i appear to have alsa-utils, but not alsaconf
[09:31] <Cope> what provides alsaconf?
[09:31] <scottt106> How can I enable DAAP support in Rhythmbox (so I can view shared iTunes music from my Windows box)?
[09:32] <Cope> alsaconf is normally in the debian alsa-utils package
[09:32] <tuxinafedora> is ubuntu seriously only one disk?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> I want to get feedback from Windows users that take a look at Dapper Live CDs.  Has anyone written a survey for usability, look and feel, etc. for gathering that sort of information?
[09:32] <NoUse> tuxinafedora yes
[09:33] <tuxinafedora> okay, is there a graphical installer?
[09:33] <NoUse> tuxinafedora there will be in dapper
[09:33] <honkzilla> Can anyone assist me with configuration of an older Orinoco/Lucent Gold 802.11b card (PC23E-H-FC) running under dapper?
[09:33] <ubuntu> do you need x-windows-server to use fluxbox
[09:33] <NoUse> ubuntu yes
[09:33] <racestoapril1> i'm having trouble finding the gstreamer package in synaptic
[09:34] <racestoapril1> to install it
[09:34] <ubuntu> NoUse: thanks
[09:34] <ryang> tonyyarusso: feedback for what?
[09:34] <NoUse> racestoapril1 there are many gstreamer packages
[09:34] <NoUse> racestoapril1 which plugin are you looking for?
[09:34] <tuxinafedora> noUse: how easy is it to choose partitions?
[09:34] <jorgg> what movieplayer is suggested to use in ubuntu?
[09:34] <racestoapril1> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:34] <NoUse> tuxinafedora easy for me
[09:34] <racestoapril1> i found that
[09:34] <amphi> jorgg: I like mplayer
[09:34] <racestoapril1> on the restrictedformat
[09:35] <NoUse> !tell racestoapril1 about repos
[09:35] <ubuntu> just wondering if you need any X to run say vmware
[09:35] <icheyne> jorgg, I like totem
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> ryang: Whether it's easy to figure out, if the icons are super cool or lame, if it works, whether documentation is sufficient when they have problems, if they could find applications in the menus easily, anything.
[09:35] <[NP] Tangent> alright Sanne
[09:35] <NoUse> ubuntu yes
[09:35] <[NP] Tangent> doing this Ubuntu Studio stuff
[09:36] <ubuntu> NoUse; thought so fluxbox is pretty light
[09:36] <NoUse> ubuntu yeah
[09:36] <jorgg> do the movieplayers share codecs, or is the codec support independent for each player?
[09:36] <ubuntu> NoUse; I am in a live cd just now kernel panic
[09:37] <Sanne> tuxinafedora, I found an installation walkthrough for breezy (the recent distro, dapper will come out in June) that might give you an idea of the install: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jabra/breezy-docs.html
[09:37] <Warbo> jorgg: The major ones are seperate (MPlayer, Xine, VLC, etc.) but all Xine interfaces are the same and stuff like that
[09:37] <Madangren> I'm having a problem with Azureus.    How do I do that?
[09:38] <racestoapril1> i just don't understand how to make mp3's play
[09:38] <kirkunit> Madangren: go to the address of your router in your browser
[09:39] <racestoapril1> it's confusing
[09:39] <racestoapril1> i get an error message saying i need plugin's
[09:39] <icheyne> racestoapril1, have you tried Automatix?
[09:39] <racestoapril1> but i don't know where togo to get the plugins
[09:39] <Warbo> Madangren: Usually point your browser to the IP address of your router, but it is different for every router
[09:39] <racestoapril1> no
[09:39] <NoUse> !tell icheyne about automatix
[09:39] <racestoapril1> i haven't
[09:39] <Subhuman> tuxinafedora,yes if you use the live cd installer
[09:39] <racestoapril1> what is automatix?
[09:39] <NoUse> racestoapril1 don't use automatix
[09:39] <Warbo> !easyubuntu
[09:39] <ubotu> somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[09:39] <kirkunit> Madangren: try 198.168.0.1, or 198.168.1.1
[09:39] <Warbo> kirkunit: 192.168 I think
[09:40] <Madangren> Crap... I don't remember the info on it >_<
[09:40] <NoUse> racestoapril1 try easyubuntu via the link above
[09:40] <kirkunit> Warbo: oops..you're right
[09:40] <racestoapril1> thanks NoUse
[09:40] <racestoapril1> i'll try
[09:40] <racestoapril1> and stay on here
[09:40] <Warbo> I type advice here, but I can't get port forwarding to work on my router :)
[09:40] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: #easyubuntu is the chat channel abut it
[09:40] <Madangren> Ah, okay.
[09:40] <kirkunit> Madangren: 192.168.0.1
[09:40] <Madangren> I'm in the options.
[09:41] <racestoapril1> ok
[09:41] <EmxBA> does anyone know how to setup smart link modem
[09:41] <Madangren> Couldn't remember the password >_>
[09:41] <Warbo> Madangren: It may be called NAT
[09:41] <Madangren> Don't see that anywhere.
[09:42] <Madangren> Filtered private port range?
[09:42] <Warbo> EmxBA: linmodems.org I think
[09:42] <kirkunit> Madangren: port forwarding? can you see that? try 'advanced' options
[09:42] <Madangren> Kay, found it.
[09:42] <green_earz> Madangren: open the ports 10000 to 10010 and forward them to the ip address of torrent machine.
[09:42] <EmxBA> Warbo: i tried linmodems but i assume there is better suppert here (faster)
[09:43] <kirkunit> madangren: i use 6881 to 6889
[09:43] <Warbo> EmxBA: Just follow their instructions (it worked for me on RedHat 9)
[09:43] <Stormx2> Is anyone else finding that msn isn't working?
[09:43] <green_earz> Madangren: whats the make and model of the rounter
[09:43] <EmxBA> Warbo: do you have an exact link
[09:43] <Madangren> What would I do to find my own ip address in Linux?  I'm used to running Windows...
[09:43] <Warbo> ifconfig
[09:44] <Madangren> Linksys
[09:44] <Madangren> Network Anywhere
[09:44] <Madangren> model nr041
[09:44] <rogerrubenich> wddf
[09:44] <rogerrubenich> greg
[09:44] <rogerrubenich> tr
[09:46] <Abo> are you guys able to connect to msn using gaim?
[09:46] <Warbo> Abo: Yep
[09:46] <Abo> it's failing to authenticate?
[09:46] <icheyne> Abo normally, but not right now
[09:46] <EmxBA> MadangreN: ifconfig
[09:47] <Abo> icheyne it's only failing now
[09:47] <Abo> yesterday was working fine
[09:47] <icheyne> abo: must be same problem I'm having
[09:47] <tuxinafedora> so, what does ubuntu use to partition?
[09:47] <EmxBA> is anyone sure that Lucent wireless cards support scanning
[09:48] <NoUse> tuxinafedora the installer's partition manager
[09:48] <Warbo> Abo: Hmmm, I logged out and now can't get back on!
[09:48] <tuxinafedora> and how hard would it be for ubuntu to install over an old install fo fedora
[09:48] <tuxinafedora> of fedora*
[09:48] <green_earz> Madangren: the link may be of help > http://www.portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Torrent/Torrentindex.htm
[09:48] <NoUse> tuxinafedora not hard, you just format the fedora partitions and use them for ubuntu
[09:48] <goscha1> hello, anyone from Poland?
[09:48] <Nailor> Abo: Hotmail account? Apparently hotmail is busted
[09:49] <tuxinafedora> NoUse is the install easy to understand?
[09:49] <NoUse> tuxinafedora yes
[09:49] <tuxinafedora> as in: does it work like the slackware installer?
[09:49] <tuxinafedora> simple ncurses based?
[09:49] <NoUse> tuxinafedora yes
[09:49] <GoLoGo> I am looking for help on the latest Live CD amd64 build of Ubuntu
[09:49] <Stormx2> Abo: Its not working. Seems the whole of passport.net is down
[09:50] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: easier or harder than slack?
[09:50] <Stormx2> ...
[09:50] <Stormx2> SUCESS!
[09:50] <Stormx2> :
[09:50] <Stormx2> lol
[09:50] <EmxBA> GoLoGo: What's the problem
[09:50] <Stormx2> Oh i just go in.
[09:50] <NoUse> tuxinafedora never used slack
[09:50] <EmxBA> ?how to connect (mdoem) on ubuntu? wvdial?
[09:50] <ubuntu> hez
[09:50] <GoLoGo> everything loads up fine, seems to be a video card problem, because i get little small dots on the screen... then it just freezes when i move a window
[09:50] <ubuntu> hey
[09:50] <tuxinafedora> oh okay, what are the general commands to apt-get?
[09:50] <GoLoGo> i have a 7800 gt
[09:50] <NoUse> !tell tuxinafedora about aptget
[09:50] <tuxinafedora> apt-get install <package name>?
[09:51] <rukuartic> Anyone in here able to reccomend a laptop that works well with Linux in general? I looked on the wiki, saw a few things. Just looking for a few testimonials. Anyone using a laptop now?
[09:51] <NoUse> !tell tuxinafedora about apt-get
[09:51] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: apt-get help :P
[09:51] <EmxBA> GoLoGo: which drivers
[09:51] <Warbo> EmxBA: You can use wvdial but I prefer gnome-ppp (uses wvdial)
[09:51] <EmxBA> GoLoGo: try with NVidia drivers
[09:51] <tuxinafedora> I was never a fan of apt-get, but maybe this will change my mind.
[09:51] <GoLoGo> well its a live cd.... i was running the live cd desktop enviornment
[09:51] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: You can try a few frontents... synaptic, aptitude...