[00:00] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, I perhaps misworded that.. rather doing 'cat [files] > /dev/null' writes the info to the buffers in memory.. Just seems strange to me that the hdd can fall asleep and you can access the file without it waking up again.. Like as if it checks the RAM first, then the hdd
[00:00] <ikonia> your disk will never fall asleep so it's a pointless process
[00:01] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, it'll never fall asleep/spin down?
[00:01] <Emiru> So any way to access windows 7 files from ubuntu ? like on the same network
[00:01] <ikonia> correct unless your whole OS and all the files are loaded into RAM
[00:02] <ikonia> Emiru: samba
[00:03] <Gup> hi all, after suspend my cpu scaling governor seems to be random!!  for example, if before sleep its on 1GHZ, after wake its sometimes the same,  or 2GHZ, or performance,  or on demand, it just seems random.  How is it meant to work and where can I change the defaults?
[00:04] <Emiru> ikonia does it require any installation from the windows computer ?
[00:04] <ikonia> Emiru: no
[00:04] <zachanima> hello; I am trying to install ubuntu on a RAID0-configuration, but I keep getting the error "Executing 'grub-install /dev/mapper' failed." when the installer tries to install grub. The partition I'm using for / is logical. Any hints?
[00:04] <Emiru> ikonia alright thanks ill try it out
[00:04] <ikonia> zachanima: you can't install /boot to raid 0
[00:04] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, so the harddisk is basically never idle? What process would be writing/reading from disk.. if we discard X for a sec.
[00:05] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: syslog, kswapd, many processes
[00:05] <zachanima> ikonia: so ... I need to have a non-raid0 drive in the machine?
[00:05] <ikonia> zachanima: partition
[00:06] <zachanima> ikonia: is that possible in 'the middle' of the drive? Ie. the first three partitions are spoken for, the fourth is an extended partition with / and swap ... hrm.
[00:06] <ikonia> put it where you want
[00:07] <reflexrg> My Encrypted home partition is now causing my system to crash sometimes how to I remove encryption from my home without repartitioning?
[00:08] <reflexrg> well I am assuming that is the cause because I get a black screen and it shows a bunch of text about encrypt
[00:09] <slgma> man unity fuckin sucks, but atleast you used to be able to use gnome
[00:09] <machiolate> what apps can i use to open a .txt file on ubuntu?
[00:09] <socky_> Hey guys.  I just upgraded from maverick to natty and now my linux server boots to grub>  normally it just boots right up to the login prompt, but not anymore.  Any ideas?
[00:09] <slgma> now i got gnome and it looks nothing like it used to
[00:09] <slgma> how do i downgrade gnome?
[00:09] <ikonia> slgma: tone the language down
[00:09] <slgma> sorry
[00:09] <ikonia> slgma: you can't downgrade gnome
[00:10] <slgma> that is terrible
[00:10] <ikonia> not really
[00:10] <slgma> first they ruin ubuntu with unity
[00:10] <slgma> and let you choose between it and gnome
[00:10] <slgma> then they ruin gnome also
[00:10] <ikonia> slgma: gnome 2 is dead - it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:10] <slgma> im stuck using xfce
[00:10] <zachanima> ikonia: is there anything in particular I need to do to set up a non-raid0 partition in, say, gparted, or should I just create an extended -> logical 4th partition?
[00:10] <ikonia> slgma: the gnome team killed gnome 2
[00:10] <ikonia> zachanima: nothign special
[00:10] <willwh> slgma: stuck?! :[
[00:10] <willwh> xfce ftw
[00:10] <reflexrg> xfce sucks too
[00:10] <slgma> its nice willwh
[00:10] <zachanima> ikonia: neat, I shall try it - thanks
[00:10] <ikonia> zachanima: as long as it's not part of your raid disk, you are fine
[00:10] <slgma> but i miss some stuff about gnome panel
[00:11] <reflexrg> LXDE FTW!!!!
[00:11] <willwh> slgma: awn?
[00:11] <willwh> :)
[00:11] <willwh> awm*
[00:11] <willwh> nonoi, awn is right :P
[00:11] <zachanima> ikonia: it is on the physical drive (I am not quite into the possibilities of raid yet), and I thought you were either raid0-ing the whole disk, or none of it?
[00:11] <willwh> ahah
[00:11] <robin0800> ! notunity | slgma
[00:12] <fellayaboy> how can i edit/bring up the edit option for my application, places, system bar???
[00:12] <fellayaboy> thru terminal!
[00:12] <ikonia> zachanima: you dn't have to raid the whole disk, but you can't partition a raid 0 disk and put /boot on it
[00:12] <reflexrg> lxde fast gnome slow
[00:12] <reflexrg> LXDE!
[00:13] <zachanima> ikonia: well, I have 2x128gb physical drives configured as raid0. How would I go about creating a non-raid partition while retaining the raid0-ness of the rest of the drive(s)?
[00:13] <fellayaboy> whats the command to bring up main menu options
[00:13] <fellayaboy> or to edit them
[00:13] <ikonia> zachanima: depends on how you radied it
[00:14] <zachanima> it was raided by default from the factory, the entirety of both physical drives are (as I understand it) configured as raid0. Where would I be able to see information on _how_ it is raided?
[00:15] <zachanima> ikonia: ^ for you :)
[00:15] <ikonia> zachanima: game over then
[00:15] <zachanima> ikonia: heh, alright ... hmm.
[00:15] <zachanima> ikonia: so my option is to pretty much remove all partitions and raid0 from scratch?
[00:15] <ikonia> zachanima: is it hardware, software or fakeraid
[00:16] <slgma> robin0800, i dont see fallback mode in the list
[00:16] <slgma> id be happy with my current xfce setup
[00:16] <slgma> if it wasnt for certain windows not being themd
[00:16] <fellayaboy> does anyone iknow how i can edit the panel menu bar from the terminall>>>
[00:16] <fellayaboy> ???
[00:16] <zachanima> ikonia: so I am guessing hardware means 'oh bugger', software means 'I can start from scratch', and fakeraid means ... what, exactly?
[00:17] <ikonia> zachanima: hardware is a true hardware raid controller independant of the OS, fakeraid is host raid, where it's a hardware controller, but the OS is the raid host, software raid is just that, raid controlled/managed by the OS
[00:17] <OldOneEye> i command u all to read my poetry   http://fecal-matters.mooo.com
[00:17] <zachanima> ikonia: will any of them make it completely impossible in any way to create a non-raid0 /boot? Will all of them?
[00:18] <ikonia> zachanima: what is YOUR setup
[00:18] <slgma> im using xfce, but some programs (brasero for example) arent themed like the rest of my windows
[00:18] <slgma> how would i correct that?
[00:18] <zachanima> ikonia: I have no idea how to find out, actually :/
[00:18] <ikonia> zachanima: what model machine is this ?
[00:19] <LucidGuy> KVM issue: Ubuntu 11.10 - W7 vm using virtio disk bus and qcow2 storage format.  Windows 7 install extracting process took hours reached 20%.  Disk IO was high also..  Anyone experience this?   Maybe I should try raw instead of qcow2?
[00:19] <zachanima> ikonia: Sony Vaio Z (VPCZ2290X-LBOM)
[00:20] <zachanima> ikonia: all I can find is '256GB (128GB x2) solid state drive with RAID 0'
[00:20] <ikonia> zachanima: ok, so that's host raid, so bascially you need to dump raid
[00:20] <zachanima> ikonia: and just have a 'regular' partition table with no raid at all?
[00:20] <Daghdha> In Ubuntu is there an application to see what port is being used by what app/servcie?
[00:20] <ikonia> zachanima: correct
[00:20] <Emiru> Will installing Win7  in virtualbox from restore DVDs delete my files on ubuntu ? The Acer recovery tool says all the C: drive will be deleted, but obviously, there is no C: on ubuntu
[00:21] <nbros652> does anyone here know of a way to impose file size limits on a per user basis other than limits.conf? Limits.conf doesn't work with samba.
[00:21] <slgma> emiru the c drive is just a parttion
[00:21] <ikonia> Emiru: no
[00:21] <slgma> however it will overwrite grub
[00:21] <slgma> and lock you out of ubuntu
[00:21] <zachanima> ikonia: that is duable. Thank you, I will look into this and consider whether it's worth doing. I presume it is possible to revert to a raid0-setup again, should I ever want to?
[00:21] <zachanima> s/duable/doable
[00:21] <ikonia> zachanima: sure
[00:22] <zachanima> ikonia: neat. I should be able to figure things out from here, I think. Thanks again, you have been instrumental in shedding light on this problem :)
[00:22] <Daghdha> ls
[00:22] <ikonia> no problem
[00:22] <socky_> Im stuck in grub mode after upgrading from maverick to natty.  I am trying to do the fix listed here http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/ BUT I dont know what my root is.  My server is installed in a VM.  How do I find out?
[00:23] <Emiru> slgma any way to install windows then and keeping ubuntu like it is then ?
[00:23] <slgma> theres tutorials that let you reinstall grub once you reinstall windows
[00:23] <Daghdha> socky_ : Super grub bootdisk?
[00:23] <tonyyarusso> Daghdha: netstat will show a listing of ports in use with processes, yes.
[00:24] <stryke297> Is there a way to disable authentication so that I don't have to enter my password all the time?
[00:24] <tonyyarusso> !grub | Emiru
[00:24] <socky_> Daghdha, whats that
[00:24] <Daghdha> tcp6       0      0 :::4626                 :::*                    LISTEN
[00:25] <Daghdha> Socky: Super grub bootdisk boots from CD and fixes the grub, i used it once. It savedme.
[00:25] <Daghdha> It doesn't list a application though tonyyarusso
[00:25] <sickn3ss> Quick question, how can I send a reverse shell or create a bind shell with the netcat-openbsd package from Ubuntu :-? the other ones have -e flag which allow me to do so. Also I only want to use this netcat and not mknod or telnet
[00:26] <tonyyarusso> Daghdha: Check out the -p switch in the man page.
[00:26] <stryke297> so no way to disable authentication?
[00:27] <stryke297> how about this one; ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa          ?
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> sickn3ss: nc -L -d -p <port> -t -e /bin/sh
[00:27] <Emiru> ubottu I didnt installed Windows yet, it says all the C: data will be gone and the computer will be back to original state, but since its in VirtualBox I thought I could get away with it
[00:27] <Emiru> lol
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> sickn3ss: try that
[00:28] <stryke297> how do I edit ubuntu software center?
[00:28] <SolarisBoy> sickn3ss: actually nc -nvv -l -p -e /bin/sh
[00:28] <tonyyarusso> stryke297: what do you mean by edit it?
[00:29] <FireBeard> so, what if you want to record the radio station you are listening to? [Rhythmbox]
[00:29] <SolarisBoy> placing port as argument to -p
[00:30] <stryke297> tonyyarusso: to install WINE I was supposed to open up the edit option for Software Center and add ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa to some part...but it doesn't have such a feature.
[00:30] <stryke297> tonyyarusso; actually I'm supposed to open software sources....oops
[00:30] <kernel^klink> hi there
[00:31] <kernel^klink> I have a ? if anyone is free
[00:31] <tonyyarusso> kernel^klink: Just ask your question.
[00:32] <stryke297> Which actually brings me back to my first question, is there a way to disable authentication
[00:32] <socky_> thanks, that worked great
[00:32] <kernel^klink> On my Asus eeepc 1005ha if I turn off wifi using the fn key I must reboot to re-enable wifi. is there a workaround besides re-enabling wifi via the cli
[00:33] <Daghdha> socky_: I have a burned copy of it on my server :)
[00:34] <FireBeard> oh my god, once, this channel had tens of users :o
[00:35] <stryke297> $sudo psswd root will make it so I an always root user and won't have to authenticate?
[00:36] <FireBeard> I think you need to login as admin
[00:36] <stryke297> I only have my user.
[00:36] <FireBeard> I might be very very wrong tho
[00:37] <stryke297> I just hate that I have to type my password like 50 times a session.
[00:37] <FireBeard> yes, Ubu creates two users at default
[00:37] <stryke297> Oh.
[00:37] <FireBeard> an admin and a user
[00:37] <stryke297> so how would I login as the admin
[00:38] <FireBeard> by logging in as one?
[00:39] <FireBeard> once your pc is booted, you can 'log out' [via the menu] and login again as root
[00:40] <vulgarbulgar> exit
[00:40] <xangua> there is no root on ubuntu FireBeard stryke297
[00:40] <xangua> !root
[00:40] <FireBeard> Ubuntu does NOT log you in as an admin/root for a reason
[00:41] <slgma> anyone know why some windows arent themed in XFCE (like brasero for example)
[00:41] <FireBeard> xangua: explain yourself
[00:41] <celthunder> xangua: just because there is no root password doesn't mean there is no root
[00:41] <FireBeard> ..there IS a root password
[00:42] <FireBeard> it's just called an admin password
[00:42] <Artemis3> slgma, perhaps its using gtk3? you should avoid brasero and use xfburn... seriously.
[00:42] <FireBeard> is all
[00:42] <celthunder> FireBeard: it's commented out i believe by default
[00:42] <slgma> xfburn doesnt work for me
[00:42] <slgma> just spins my disk really loudly and doesnt ever stop
[00:42] <slgma> i prefer gnome programs Artemis
[00:42] <slgma> thunar isnt bad
[00:42] <FireBeard> celthunder: what about sudo then
[00:42] <Artemis3> slgma, your call, my experience with brasero has been the complete opposite.
[00:43] <FireBeard> you can login as an admin
[00:43] <slgma> brasero is extremely stable for me
[00:43] <slgma> rarely ever fails
[00:43] <slgma> xfburn sounded like it was gonna burn up my disk drive
[00:43] <celthunder> FireBeard: what about it
[00:43] <FireBeard> never mind
[00:43] <|Slacker|> brasero worked like crap here too
[00:44] <thornhillstaff> I'm using Lubuntu, how do I change the name of a desktop shortcut or make a new one?
[00:44] <|Slacker|> it never finds my cd drive
[00:44] <slgma> gnome-baker is good too
[00:44] <stryke297> !root
[00:44] <stryke297> !sudo
[00:44] <stryke297> !cli
[00:45] <Artemis3> slgma, should be a problem with wodim, after all xfburn is a simple front end, much like gnomebaker used to be. brasero on the other hand... takes over the drive, if brasero ever crashes, goodbye to burning (or reading) until restart, that was my experience with it. Oh, and doesn't play along with k3b either
[00:45] <FireBeard> gheh, the password for ubottu  is secretyo
[00:45] <slgma> so how do i change the gtk theme from xfce? i want brasero and nautilus to look the same as everything else
[00:45] <slgma> i hate k3b
[00:45] <slgma> and all things KDE
[00:45] <zachanima> ikonia: Hmm. Considering the host raid nature, would it be possible to have a (small) boot partition out of the raid configuration, and then have the rest of the drive space in raid0 (obviously not being able to use the /boot size on the second physical drive)?
[00:45] <slgma> KDE is the worst thing to happen to linux since unity
[00:45] <stryke297> So if sudo is all I need why even have a password, and what of the function $sudo psswd root ?
[00:45] <slgma> even though KDE was first
[00:45] <pepee> i love k3b
[00:46] <thornhillstaff> !happiness
[00:46] <Artemis3> slgma in Appearances you change the gtk2 theme...
[00:46] <slgma> doesnt work for me
[00:46] <FireBeard> KDE used to be friggin cool
[00:46] <pepee> gnome is ugly
[00:46] <FireBeard> did I sleep for a couple of years?
[00:46] <FireBeard> :?
[00:46] <pepee> yeah
[00:46] <pepee> use lxde
[00:47] <subone> I am having intermittent network issues. Sometimes I can reach my server on my local network, sometimes I can't. If I ping it from another machine it says pinging <IP_ADDRESS> and then says <IP_ADDRESS> host unreachable. Where did this 99 ip come from?
[00:47] <FireBeard> strange...
[00:47] <stryke297> ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[00:47] <stryke297> :~$ $sudo passwd root
[00:47] <stryke297> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root.
[00:47] <pepee> subone, wifi?
[00:47] <slgma> Artemis3, it doesnt effect the gtk apps when im using xfce
[00:48] <slgma> it did in ubuntu 11.04
[00:48] <slgma> ever since unity became part of ubuntu, upgrades have been hell
[00:48] <subone> pepee, yes
[00:48] <slgma> all kinds of stuff messes up and stops working
[00:48] <FireBeard> I don't see how updates would be different with another DE
[00:49] <pepee> subone, may be a rogue AP?
[00:49] <Artemis3> slgma, are you sure its not only a few apps like you said? is leafpad and friends not changing appeareance?
[00:49] <stryke297> So what's up if I go to Displays and it just says "unknown"
[00:49] <slgma> leafpad appears to be themed
[00:49] <subone> pepee, i am not configured to connect to unknown open networks
[00:49] <slgma> nautilus and brasero are among those that dont theme
[00:50] <subone> pepee, both computers are connected to the correct network and subnet
[00:50] <FireBeard> did one check what is supported?
[00:51] <pepee> subone, strange. I once had similar problems, but no idea what is the problem
[00:51] <Jasmin> hii friends
[00:51] <FireBeard> hello
[00:51] <subone> Anyone else? I've had this problem for a long time
[00:52] <Jasmin> where do i download jperf pkg
[00:52] <Jasmin> n how do i install
[00:52] <FireBeard> you can't google?
[00:52] <slgma> how do you run settings manager from terminal?
[00:53] <|Slacker|> slgma, settings-manager i guess
[00:53] <FireBeard> something with alt-f2
[00:53] <FireBeard> I need to get out of here..
[00:53] <nbros652> does anyone here know of a way to impose file size limits on a per user basis other than limits.conf? Limits.conf doesn't work with samba.
[00:53] <slgma> nope |Slacker|
[00:53] <|Slacker|> slgma, gimme a sec
[00:54] <slgma> |Slacker|, k
[00:54] <FireBeard> get rid of the |
[00:55] <almoxarife> nbros652: samba is a method to share, I don't see how it would run file size limits
[00:56] <nbros652> almoxarife: right.   I want to have a 3-monitor setup (which is practically impossible natively in Ubuntu, right now).  SO, I'm trying to find hardware to do the trick. Let's say I have two 800x600 monitors. I connect the monitors to the box, then the box to the computer. The box reports to the computer that it has one monitor with a res of 1600x600, then splits the computer output between the two monitors.
[00:57] <almoxarife> nbros652: shared folder is owned by some local account, it would define the quota
[00:57] <nbros652> almoxarife: basically, I want  to limit uploads to a maximum of an arbitrary size, say 15MB
[00:58] <pangolin> !language | FireBeard
[00:58] <|Slacker|> oh i see...just can't remember...I thought it was system settings in gnome, but it isn't
[00:58] <fellayaboy> whats the command to open the panel main menu to edit it from terminale?l..anyone knows?? anhyone anyon
[00:58] <almoxarife> nbros652: perhaps you need something like FTP then? and I am not a FTP expert
[00:58] <nbros652> almoxarife: the quotas are all in place and working. I want to prevent large files from filling the directory too quickly.
[00:58] <BPower> I have no idea what that name of these are or how to search for them online.  I keep coming up with splitters (mirrored) -- can anyone help me with this?
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> fellayaboy  try alacarte
[00:58] <fellayaboy> MonkeyDust, perfect
[00:58] <fellayaboy> thank you
[00:59] <nbros652> almoxarife: so you don't know of any way to do this with smb?
[00:59] <Jasmin> FireBeard,  i searching tool for network performance measurement graphical tool
[00:59] <almoxarife> nbros652: samba no
[00:59] <fellayaboy> how did u find out the command?
[00:59] <fellayaboy> MonkeyDust, how did u know or find out the command
[01:00] <nbros652> almoxarife: thanks anyway
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> fellayaboy  known it since the beginning of time
[01:00] <fellayaboy> how can i find out all these commands?..say if i wanted to edit another component..is their a easy way?
[01:01] <FireBeard> [01:59:51] <Jasmin> FireBeard,  i searching tool for network performance measurement graphical tool
[01:01] <FireBeard> BRILLIANT
[01:02] <subone> I am having intermittent network issues. Sometimes I can reach my server on my local network, sometimes I can't. If I ping it from another machine it says pinging <IP_ADDRESS> and then says <IP_ADDRESS> host unreachable. Where did this 99 ip come from? This problem has been affecting me for a long time over many updates. From the server machine I can still access the internet during these times.
[01:02] <T3LL0> Hello
[01:02] <T3LL0> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10
[01:02] <T3LL0> everytime I put it in suspend mode
[01:02] <T3LL0> it freeze when trying to wakeup
[01:02] <T3LL0> it just show me a black screen and I cannot even go to TTY1 o any other
[01:02] <Jasmin> FireBeard, can u help me
[01:02] <T3LL0> Ctrl+Alt+Del do not work either
[01:02] <T3LL0> I have to hard reset it, pressing power button a few seconds
[01:03] <T3LL0> can somebody help with this? cuz I realy preffer suspend it to shut it down
[01:03] <FireBeard> Jasmin: yes of course mouse can help keyboard mobile basket :)
[01:04] <|Slacker|> T3LL0, you're using gnome?
[01:04] <pepee> T3LL0, are you sure the desktop environment doesn't work?
[01:05] <T3LL0> |Slacker|: I'm using KDE, but with gnome same think happened
[01:05] <Jasmin> FireBeard, :(
[01:05] <pepee> I have the same problem, but I know for sure that lxde works: if I press ctrl+esc, the menu is opened, and then I can reboot my machine from there
[01:06] <almoxarife> T3LL0: has suspend ever worked on this machine?
[01:06] <T3LL0> pepee: DE is working
[01:06] <|Slacker|> T3LL0, I ask because I had similar problems in kde
[01:06] <pepee> T3LL0, try rebooting the machine from the menu
[01:06] <T3LL0> almoxarife: it works before
[01:07] <|Slacker|> I had to deactivate something about a cpu on demand thing
[01:07] <almoxarife> T3LL0: when did it stop working?
[01:07] <FireBeard> Jasmin, I have NO idea what you are talking about, but you might want to try MoonOS.
[01:08] <Joshr1> Hello, I want to create a softlink to the terminal on my desktop to make the terminal easier to get to.  I am unsure of what the terminal programs name is though.
[01:08] <ermo> subone: try 'ifconfig' and note if .99 is your own ip?
[01:08] <|Slacker|> Joshr1, gnome-terminal i guess
[01:08] <T3LL0> almoxarife: it never work. I have enough RAM
[01:08] <FireBeard> RIGHTCLICK ALL THE THINGS
[01:08] <ChrisGagnon> Does anyone know of a linux program that will convert stl files to dwg?
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> Joshr1: gnome-terminal, yes
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> ChrisGagnon: What on earth are stl and dwg?
[01:09] <bluGill> hello, I'm trying to create a custom install CD (lucid), that only uses my local mirror.   however I don't know how to keep the standard ones from getting in /etc/apt/sources.list.   ideas?
[01:09] <Joshr1> Ok what folder is it in?
[01:09] <almoxarife> T3LL0: what is the hardware?
[01:09] <ermo> Joshr1: ln -s $(which gnome-terminal) ~/Desktop/
[01:09] <pepee> T3LL0, try doing this: open your favorite media player and play then pause a song
[01:09] <ChrisGagnon> tonyyarusso: CAD files
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> Joshr1: Doesn't matter - it's in your path.
[01:09] <robin0800> Joshr1: ctrl+alt+t is rasy too
[01:09] <ermo> Joshr1: did reading those linux basic guides help you any? :)
[01:09] <pepee> T3LL0, then suspend, and after resume, press space to play the song
[01:09] <w30> I want to map a sleep button my keyboard to suspend but I can't find a suspend command; anyone?
[01:09] <Joshr1> Yes Ermo, quite a bit.  Thank you.
[01:09] <ermo> Joshr1: cheers -- glad to hear it :)
[01:10] <subone> ermo, ok you are correct. That explains that :p Now what can I do to troubleshoot these intermittent server blackouts?
[01:10] <T3LL0> almoxarife: how can I print hardware information here?
[01:10] <almoxarife> pepee: his machine never returns from suspend, how is he going to play the song?
[01:10] <pepee> latest ati driver (11.11 from amd website) broke suspend/resume on my machine: I get a black screen, but the desktop environment works
[01:10] <FireBeard> if rightclick doesnt work, try longclick
[01:10] <Jasmin> FireBeard, I  Build two virtual machines on my windows 7 OS and now i have to  evaluate the performance of communication link between the machines. i need to investigate:
[01:10] <Jasmin> a)	CPU, Memory, and HDD performance with the host computer
[01:10] <Jasmin> b)	TCP and UDP streaming performance, including throughput, latency, connection rate and other metrics.
[01:10] <Jasmin> c)	Demonstrate the impact of various Linux TCP/IP stack parameters on the network performance.
[01:10] <subone> ermo, note that the server is not accessable from other computers as well during these down times
[01:11] <FireBeard> Jasmin: have fun then
[01:11] <ermo> subone: I would investigate cabling, switching and ip-address conflicts -- does the network have a DHCP server or do you use static ips?
[01:11] <T3LL0> pepee: and did you fix it?
[01:11] <pepee> almoxarife, that's why I'm asking him, because it may not be a machine lock, but "just" a black screen
[01:11] <Jasmin> FireBeard, fuck u'
[01:11] <almoxarife> T3LL0: describe your machine
[01:11] <ermo> subone: if someone with the same static ip as the server turns up, your issue would be typical
[01:11] <EvilResistance> !language | Jasmin
[01:11] <pepee> T3LL0, i had to go back to fglrx 8.881 :(
[01:11] <FireBeard> strange that you should evalulate OS'es in virtual machines
[01:12] <FireBeard> thanks for fucking me
[01:12] <Joshr1> Now I also want to know if I can keep an account limited to it's home directory when using SSH.
[01:12] <EvilResistance> !language | FireBeard
[01:12] <EvilResistance> seriously, do i have to call in an op?
[01:12] <v90> How much disk space should I dedicate for a full compile? (make world)
[01:12] <ermo> Joshr1: You can, but I believe it's an advanced topic that requires jailing or using a restricted ssh client
[01:12] <v90> with gui and everything
[01:12] <Joshr1> Hmm ok
[01:12] <FireBeard> [02:11:47] <Jasmin> FireBeard, fuck u'
[01:12] <ermo> Joshr1: for which purpose? Do you want to give users shell access or do you just want them to access files?
[01:13] <EvilResistance> FireBeard,  stop now
[01:13] <FireBeard> I reacted to that
[01:13] <Joshr1> Just files.
[01:13] <EvilResistance> i dont care
[01:13] <FireBeard> I did NOT say that, I just reacted to it
[01:13] <EvilResistance> FireBeard,  i already sent the same warning to Jasmin.  you then responded.
[01:13] <subone> ermo, my configuration isn't set up afaik with any other computer with that ip. However, if that were the case, how would I be able to test that theory?
[01:13] <EvilResistance> you also got the warning
[01:13] <T3LL0> almoxarife: is a netbook ASUS eeePC 1000HD, Intel Celeron M processor, 1GiB RAM
[01:13]  * ermo wonders what happened "don't feed the troll"
[01:13] <ermo> *happened *to
[01:14] <ermo> subone: change the server ip? :)
[01:14] <FireBeard> I now remember why I stopped going here :)
[01:14] <ermo> subone: ensure that DNS is set up correctly on the network and make sure that clients use the DNS name. Then the change of IP shouldn't affect anyone negatively?
[01:14] <w30> I can click on a suspend button in logout menu but how do I dot that in a terminal?
[01:15] <ermo> w30: Did you try 'apropos suspend' in a terminal to see if there are any man pages related to what you want to do?
[01:15] <Joshr1> Ermo: what I want to do is limit some accounts to the Files, but allow a terminal link with an account.
[01:15] <ermo> Joshr1: Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure I understand  you :)
[01:15] <Joshr1> lol
[01:15] <Joshr1> Hmm ok
[01:15] <w30> ermo, ok I will see.
[01:16] <Joshr1> The idea is to maintain a file server of course.
[01:16] <subone> ermo, Great! Thanks! I will do that.  Will natty remain at 4.4?
[01:17] <ermo> subone: Actually, re-reading your issue, it might be the .99 ip that has a conflict
[01:17] <ermo> subone: since you can't reach the server OR the internet
[01:18] <Joshr1> I guess I could accomplish this through group permissions?
[01:18] <ermo> subone: is your box (the one with .99) cabled or wireless?
[01:18] <zykotick9> w30, check out if this post still applies http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387 - i certainly never used suspend from cli before, and don't recognize the command(s) used at all.  good luck.
[01:18] <ermo> Joshr1: You could take a look at ftps via vsftpd instead -- it does jails by default
[01:18] <ermo> Joshr1: I use it on my own box
[01:19] <ermo> Joshr1: and then you can give shell access to trusted users
[01:19] <ermo> untrusted = jailed to home directory, no shell access
[01:19] <ermo> trusted = sftp access, can be controlled via permissions
[01:19] <nekrozis> I need a little help is this the right place?
[01:19] <Joshr1> Will it then allow me to use that softlink to my raid?
[01:20] <ermo> Joshr1: .. huh?
[01:20]  * ermo doesn't remember anything about the raid
[01:20] <Joshr1> Oh last night I was here looking for a way to allow access to a raid.
[01:20] <zykotick9> nekrozis, if the help you require is ubuntu related, then probably.  Just ask your question
[01:20] <Germanaz0> new kernel released ?
[01:20] <Joshr1> I have the OS on a SSD, and then a raid-0 setup.
[01:20] <Germanaz0> or is just me that upgraded
[01:21] <sleepdead> yeah.. new kernel
[01:21] <Joshr1> I was trying to find a way to create a link between the home directory and the raid.
[01:21] <ermo> Joshr1: I'm afraid you need to provide little more context. Ahem.
[01:21] <ermo> *a little more
[01:21] <nekrozis> Been using 11.10 since it came out and turned password off in user accounts now I can't do updates because I dont have a password
[01:21] <Joshr1> So that is where the softlink came into play.
[01:21] <RedArmy> Can someone provide me a screenshot of 11.10 rendering engadget.com with the default browser?
[01:22] <Joshr1> This was before I realized ssh and sftp gave access to the entire filesystem.
[01:23] <ermo> Joshr1: http://www.brennan.id.au/14-FTP_Server.html <- take a look at that guide and ask yourself if not that setup fulfills your file servering requirements when using FTP over SSL :)
[01:23] <Joshr1> $Kt81$Tk
[01:23] <ermo> Joshr1: time for a new password? ;)
[01:23] <nekrozis> tried to reset password in recovery but it said authentication failed or something similar
[01:23] <Joshr1> lol yep
[01:23] <yesh> Hello All
[01:24] <almoxarife> RedArmy: why?
[01:25] <nekrozis> Can anyone help with password Problem?
[01:25] <yesh> nekro: whats the prob?
[01:25] <RedArmy> almoxarife: doing a rendering comparison against some new infinality patches, curious to see what's going on in ubuntu's rendering
[01:25] <LucidGuy> Looking to buy SSL cert, recommendations? Verisign is a little pricy..
[01:26] <ermo> yesh: read up about a page
[01:26] <Gentoo64> RedArmy, http://i.imgur.com/LZK4R.png
[01:26] <ermo> yesh: something about him disabling passwords
[01:26] <Gentoo64> i use infinality
[01:26] <yesh> oh
[01:26] <Joshr1> I can't believe that just happened.
[01:26] <ermo> Joshr1: the password thing?
[01:26] <subone> ermo, I'm not sure what you mean by getting something different by reading my question. I thought you had it right on. The "response iterations" in the terminal, from running ping <IP_ADDRESS>, was referring to the local machine IP, reporting the server unreachable.
[01:26] <zykotick9> nekrozis, you can't really turn passwords off - you can turn login passwords off, but not passwords themselves.  Do you remember what your passwords was (and are you 100% sure)?
[01:26] <nekrozis> Turned password off in user accounts now I can't download updates and when I try to reset through recovery it says authentication failed or something similar, resetting in user accounts doesn't recognize old password so I cant' reset there
[01:27] <yesh> click on your name
[01:27] <nekrozis> yes i remember
[01:27] <yesh> should bring you upto 'user accounts'
[01:27] <subone> s/was referring/were referring
[01:27] <Joshr1> Ya, I was logging into remote desktop and it did that.
[01:27] <yesh> theres a lil button that says automatic login
[01:27] <ermo> subone: You said that during the outage, .99 (client) couldn't reach .2 (server) nor the internet, yet .2 (server) could reach the internet.
[01:27] <yesh> that should disable the need for a password
[01:27] <RedArmy> Gentoo64: thanks for that. Can I have the whole window if possible
[01:28] <Gentoo64> hang on
[01:28] <Gentoo64> RedArmy, im not on ubuntu...
[01:28] <ermo> subone: if there was an ip conflict with .2 (server), the server wouldn't be able to reach the internet.
[01:28] <Gentoo64> RedArmy, but i have the latest infinality and local.conf etc
[01:28] <subone> ermo, I don't recall saying that 99 could not connect to the internet.
[01:28] <yesh> could someone help me install a programme here on ubuntu?
[01:28] <zykotick9> !password | nekrozis
[01:29] <RedArmy> Gentoo64: oh I see
[01:29] <zykotick9> nekrozis, you didn't happen to change your computer (host) name did you?
[01:29] <ermo> subone: "From the server machine I can still access the internet during these times."
[01:30] <subone> I apologize that was not ment to be an exclusive statement
[01:30] <ermo> subone: how's your lan set up? Is the server also the firewall/NAT box?
[01:30] <yesh> Im trying to install this .exe programme called guitarpro on ubuntu
[01:31] <yesh> Can anyone help?
[01:31] <nekrozis> zyko no i didn't change the host name
[01:31] <zykotick9> !tab > nekrozis
[01:31] <subone> ermo, No there is a Netgear router serving wired and wireless devices
[01:31] <dr_willis> !wine | yesh
[01:31] <zykotick9> nekrozis, then see the link about LostPassword above.
[01:32] <subone> ermo, the server is just a host on the network with a static ip, i dont think ive ever gotten dns configured for it
[01:32] <yesh> Ive tried wine n checked their db too. Its on there with a bronze, silver and gold recommendation, but I cant seem to get it to work
[01:32] <ermo> subone: Does the netgear router handle DNS?
[01:32] <nekrozis> zykotick9: ok
[01:32] <Tech-1> is the xserver pacgage the same in 10 04 as 10.10 ?,
[01:32] <zykotick9> yesh, #wine-hq might be able to help for specific wine issues
[01:32] <ermo> subone: If I were in your shoes, I'd examine every single host on the network and ensure that it was set to pull its address via DHCP
[01:33] <yesh> zyko: those guys are wankers
[01:33] <zykotick9> yesh, and sorry, it's #winehq
[01:33] <yesh> not as helpful as the #ubuntu lads
[01:34] <ermo> subone: I'd also look to see if the Netgear router allows you to assign static IPs (per MAC address) via DHCP
[01:35] <ermo> subone: is it a mixed network with both linux, windows and mac clients?
[01:35] <ermo> s/look to see/check/
[01:37] <StepNjump2> is it safe to bank online with ubuntu?
[01:37] <scorchgeek> StepNjump2: the same as any other operating system, why not?
[01:37] <yesh> as safe, if not safer than windows
[01:38] <ermo> StepNjump2: The security depends on many things, of which your OS is only one component. Assuming that you're using a browser based banking solution, I'd say "Yes"
[01:38] <StepNjump2> scorchgeek... With all the stuff that happens nowadays in the winworld! Makes one wonder
[01:38] <Gentoo64> its safer than windows either way
[01:39] <StepNjump2> ok ermo
[01:39] <ermo> StepNjump2: To put it this way: I have no qualms about using my Browser + Java Applet based banking solution :)
[01:39] <nekrozis> zykotick9: when i go through the recovery mode to change password i get ' Authentication token manipulation error' and ' password failed to change'
[01:39] <subone> ermo, yes, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Ubuntu Natty, Ubuntu Lucid, Android, XBox360, WDTVLiveHub, iPod, and the occasional freeloader
[01:39] <StepNjump2> I have a friend who reboots in tiny linux everytime he connects to his bank on a stand alone computer...
[01:40] <ermo> subone: What kind of server is the server? Windows? Linux? Is it serving files?
[01:40] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, some people are over paranoid
[01:40] <scorchgeek> StepNjump2: well if you're paranoid I suppose it can't hurt
[01:40] <scorchgeek> I'm fairly paranoid myself, but I'm not worried about that
[01:40] <StepNjump2> I guess that would be the ideal solution but I'm too lazy to set up a computer JUST for banking
[01:40] <Gentoo64> nah thats silly
[01:40] <zykotick9> nekrozis, i've seen this error once before - i have no idea how to fix it - good luck!
[01:40] <Gentoo64> my mums paranoid and asks to use my comp for paying for stuff online
[01:40] <ermo> StepNjump2: does your friend also wear a tinfoil hat for fear of people listenning in on his thoughts? ;)
[01:41] <Gentoo64> i tell her the xp comps is fine, i know it dont have keyloggers on it
[01:41] <StepNjump2> Would it be best to install a firewall on ubuntu desktop ?
[01:41] <ermo> nekrozis: Are you using a GUI tool or the command line to change/set a password?
[01:41] <nekrozis> zykotick9: yep been working fine till today, thanks
[01:41] <scorchgeek> Gentoo64: so instead she makes you deal with it?
[01:41] <hemangpatel> where can i fin source code of ubuntu ?
[01:41] <Gentoo64> nah i tell her that her comp is fine (xp)
[01:41] <xangua> !source | hemangpatel
[01:41] <StepNjump2> no ermo but he wears it because he's worried about RF exposure to cell towers
[01:41] <ermo> StepNjump2: /me wonders if that was a joke or not
[01:42] <Gentoo64> lol
[01:42]  * StepNjump2 lol
[01:42] <tobe> is it just me or did 11.10 mess up the camera functions. (i cannot record with almost any program for some reason.) (i just fresh install of 11.10)
[01:42] <nac-godfather> Anyone here got compiz working smoothly with gnome3 instead of as a separate window manager completely (latest release)?
[01:42] <nekrozis> ermo: i go to grub and select recovery mode and go to root and at the #passwd nekrozis then type new password
[01:42] <ermo> tobe: I think I heard someone else say the same thing in here a day or two ago ...
[01:42] <subone> ermo, Its one of the Natty machines. It serves HTTP, SSH, Samba, uPnP, etc to the internal network
[01:42] <tobe> ermo: was there any solution found
[01:43] <ermo> subone: Hm.
[01:43] <ermo> tobe: not that I remember (but that doesn't mean there was no solution -- just that I didn't pay attention :) )
[01:43] <BuenGenio> hello
[01:43] <fellayaboy> hey im trying "DISPLAY=:0 firefox www.google.com" to open the firefox browser in an ssh session...but its not working how can i get it to display on the remote pc in wich im logged to
[01:43] <BuenGenio> how do I make a copy or prevent dmesg from being cleared on every reboot?
[01:43] <ermo> nekrozis: make sure that your root filesystem is mounted read-write
[01:43] <ermo> nekrozis: mount / -o rw,remount
[01:44] <tobe> ermo: oh... let me keep combing the forums... but the forums doesnt really provide good search results
[01:44] <BuenGenio> server rstarted randomly three times in the last 24 hours and I have no idea what's causing it
[01:44] <subone> ermo, gnome-device-manager reports the wireless device on the server as "RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI (WMP54G ver 4.1)"
[01:44] <Gentoo64> power supply?
[01:44] <Gentoo64> BuenGenio, ^
[01:44] <BuenGenio> nop
[01:44] <BuenGenio> dunno
[01:44] <BuenGenio> need my dmesg logs
[01:44] <ermo> nekrozis: if the passwd binary can write to your filesystem, I would imagine that it'd die like you describe. But I've been wrong before :)
[01:44] <Gentoo64> BuenGenio, trued /var/log/kern.log?
[01:45] <ermo> subone: server? wireless?
[01:45] <robin0800> nac-godfather: yes in gnome classic but you have to hack it
[01:45] <ermo> subone: surely you're not serious? The server is of course cabled, right?
[01:45] <fellayaboy> nevermind DISPLAY=:0 its just not updating via remote desktop viewer
[01:45] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  you may ned to use 'xhost +localhost' from the x session. and ff is special and mayneed a -noremote option i recall
[01:45] <ermo> subone: hint: that wasn't a question.
[01:45] <BuenGenio> should I just set it as chattr +a  ?
[01:45] <Gentoo64> whats the -a
[01:46] <Gentoo64> i only use i
[01:46] <BuenGenio> append only
[01:46] <nac-godfather> So basically, you have to revert back to fall-back type mode in order to use compiz, no mate and compiz or anything?
[01:46] <BuenGenio> ?
[01:46] <Emiru_> Hi
[01:46] <Gentoo64> BuenGenio, could try it
[01:46] <Gentoo64> BuenGenio, but dont var log kern.log say anything?
[01:46] <nac-godfather> Is mutter going to come out with some user-set desktop effects to replace compiz or what?
[01:47] <ermo> fellayaboy: don't you need to ensure that X11 forwarding is enabled? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I'm sure google has a few tips for you if you ask nicely :)
[01:47] <StepNjump2> ermo and scorchgeek: http://blogs.computerworld.com/17515/being_safe_with_ubuntu_on_a_usb_flash_drive
[01:47] <fellayaboy> How can i permentatly "metacity --replace" from terminal though
[01:47] <dr_willis> they are 2 different projects nac-godfather
[01:47] <BuenGenio> Gentoo64, Nov 21 15:14:52 byngeast01 kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[01:48] <subone> ermo, It's just my personal machine. I share videos and music over the wireless network to my television mostly. However, it often does not see the server for sometimes up to a full day (though the length of time before it sees the server again may be affected by the client WDTVLiveHub).
[01:48] <BuenGenio> that's the first line from yesterday's first reboot
[01:48] <Gentoo64> hmm
[01:48] <Gentoo64> no idea if thats causing anything
[01:48] <Gentoo64> cant see why its cause a reboot
[01:48] <ermo> subone: 'it' being the telly?
[01:48] <subone> ermo, but during  uptimes media playback is responsive and continuous
[01:49] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, theres articles like thateverywhere
[01:49] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, to be safe online banking, make sure you dont have keyloggers, viruses etc (stuff linux dont get) and make sure the site is real and using https
[01:49] <StepNjump2> Gentoo64 I know.. but you are right
[01:49] <Gentoo64> you dont need a livecd or hardened system for banking
[01:50] <ermo> subone: I don't suppose that you have a couple of Linksys WRT54GL routers handy, with which you could configure a wireless WDS bridge?
[01:50] <subone> ermo, Sorry, 'it' being the middle man WDTVLiveHub. It's a piece of junk I bought on the spur of the moment last Christmas.
[01:50] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, i assume that means disable compiz allows VNC to work?
[01:50] <subone> ermo, no lol
[01:50] <dr_willis> fellayaboy: test what you are doing with a simple xterm. i recall firefox needing an extra options to work remotely
[01:51] <ermo> subone: you see, I'm very suspicious of vendor firmware. The only _really_ stable wireless AP/Router firmware I've worked with is the Linksys/Broadcom kernel 2.4 based 'Tomato' firmware.
[01:51] <Gentoo64> tomato :)
[01:51] <Gentoo64> got to love that
[01:51] <ermo> subone: wireless router/AP vendor firmware, that is.
[01:52] <ermo> subone: bottom line: Wireless is only as reliable as your AP firmware and your network card drivers.
[01:52] <StepNjump2> Gentoo64 would it be safer to run a desktop user instead of administrator at all?
[01:52] <ermo> subone: hence my wry comment about servers and cables
[01:52] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, yeah of course
[01:52] <w30> zykotick9, I dug through that suspend link and found something that works; not what  is in the suspend button but nevertheless works, thank you.
[01:52] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, you shouldnt be running root for normal stuff anyway thats the point of normal users
[01:53] <zykotick9> w30, nice, glad you figured it out.
[01:53] <subone> ermo, Ok, let's say you're wrong and I hook it up wired and the problem persist. Then what would you recommend?
[01:53] <StepNjump2> Oh ok.. nobody ever told me that!
[01:53] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, well now you know
[01:53] <StepNjump2> yep!
[01:53] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, ALWAYS use normal user
[01:53] <StepNjump2> Thanks a lot
[01:53] <Gentoo64> some stuff refuses to run as root (chromium for eg)
[01:54] <ermo> subone: for instance, in my home, I've got two linksys wrt54gl routers with tomato set up just to keep a wifi bridge running. They can go for months without dropping the connection or rebooting.
[01:54] <StepNjump2> And if I need to install something new, I would run su from the normal user or would log into my administrator account?
[01:54] <ermo> subone: Then I'd look at IP address conflicts.
[01:54] <Jonta> StepNjump2: Yep
[01:54] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, use normal account always, and use sudo for stuff where you need elevated rights
[01:54] <Jonta> StepNjump2: sudo
[01:54] <ermo> subone: how many clients do you have on your network? 10+?
[01:54] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, that way you drop straight back to normal user when the commands finished
[01:54] <StepNjump2> ok thanks Jonta
[01:55] <StepNjump2> and Gentoo64
[01:55] <Gentoo64> StepNjump, did you manually set a root password then?
[01:55] <Gentoo64> theres no harm in that, but just dont login as root or leave a root terminal open if you dont know what youre doing
[01:56] <zykotick9> !noroot
[01:56] <ermo> !wfm | ermo
[01:57] <subone> ermo, Usually not all at once. And some are multi-boot. About 5-6 wireless devices and maybe 3 wired.
[01:57] <zykotick9> ermo, to get factoid privately (so the channel doesn't see) - you can use "/msg ubottu foo" [but perhaps ubottu just told you that - making this redundant]
[01:57] <ermo> zykotick9: indeed it did
[01:57] <subone> And between the three wired, only one would be in use at a time.
[01:57] <zykotick9> ermo, sorry - remember that 3/4 the way through typing
[01:58] <ermo> subone: I'd definitely look at their ip configurations :)
[01:58] <ermo> subone: which router do you have? If it's Tomato compatible, I'd definitely recommend flashing it with that as well :)
[02:00] <subone> ermo, 	Netgear Wireless-N 150 (WNR1000v2-VC)
[02:00] <ermo> subone: Doesn't sound like it is.
[02:01] <ermo> subone: I almost hope you find an IP conflict. But in any case, I wish you the best of luck in your troubleshooting efforts :D
[02:01] <ermo> o/ -- I'm off.
[02:01] <subone> ermo, Thanks for your help
[02:02] <ermo> subone: np
[02:06] <kierkkadon> Where can I change the default programs?
[02:07] <kierkkadon> (in kubuntu)
[02:07] <eXpander> Hi, I use "Suicide Linux" as my main distro, is it ok to recompile the kernel on that?
[02:07] <kierkkadon> nvm, found it
[02:07] <bowo> morning
[02:07] <xangua> eXpander: wrong channel, this is ubuntu support ;)
[02:07] <reisio> heh
[02:08] <reisio> eXpander: as long as the arch is right, it won't matter
[02:09] <kierkkadon> Actually I didn't find it. How do I change (for example) vlc to be my default video media application?
[02:09] <kierkkadon> (kubuntu)
[02:09] <fellayaboy> i wanna create a loop...i want to execute a folder with files....lets say photos... i want to execute one photo at a time using eog every 6 seconds how can i do that
[02:10] <Jonta> kierkkadon: Googled "change default media application ubuntu"? (:
[02:10] <blognewb> hi guys i was wondering if you know a text editor, a c script, or pastebin webapp, etc that can set your work to an 18 syllables per line format because my sister is trying to do an "epic format" for her english class
[02:10] <reisio> kierkkadon: you are in for a fun ride, my friend
[02:11] <reisio> I don't even remember if I got that to work it took me so long looking into it
[02:11] <reisio> probably if you ask #kde they will laugh at you
[02:11] <bowo> clear
[02:11] <reisio> reset
[02:11] <Roasted> did updating break anybody else's microphone?? :/
[02:11] <Jonta> fellayaboy: I don't know what you mean by "execute"
[02:14] <somsip> Roasted: updating what, when?
[02:14] <Roasted> updating ubuntu. today.
[02:14] <fellayaboy> well lets put it this way...i have a folder with files..every 5 seconds i want to execute eog of a photo i have their
[02:14] <fellayaboy> it could be random or in order
[02:14] <fellayaboy> doesnt matter
[02:14] <somsip> Roasted: I've just rebooted on the new kernel and problems with my usb webcam mic in Skype in the last kernel seem to be resolved
[02:14] <Roasted> oh, sweet
[02:15] <Roasted> I wish I could use skype, but oh wait, my microphone doesn't work
[02:15] <somsip> Roasted: this was the generally reported problems - chipmunk bug, I think it was called
[02:16] <Jonta> fellayaboy: So.. a shuffling slideshow?
[02:16] <fellayaboy> something like that. but i rather just have it open a file one at a time..ill do the closing of files myself just have them popup and ill close them myself
[02:17] <fellayaboy> but i want to do it in intervals
[02:17] <fellayaboy> say every minute...every half hour...whatever...
[02:19] <Artemis3> fellayaboy, funny, i could swear there is a screensaver or two to do just that...
[02:19] <Jonta> Right. Now you have me back at your starting point: Confused. Write a step by step scenarion of what you want to happen please (:
[02:19] <fellayaboy> their is but i want to execute it myself Artemis3
[02:19] <somsip> Artemis3: feh?
[02:19] <Artemis3> fellayaboy, you can
[02:19] <fellayaboy> ok what would be the command to do that via terminal
[02:20]  * Jonta wanders off for a bit
[02:20] <dr_willis> blognewb: emacs has addons for most everything ;-)
[02:20] <bowo> hey , how to connect to ssh server on ubuntu ? using external program ?
[02:21] <somsip> bowo: what do you mean 'external program'?
[02:21] <fellayaboy> bowo first i have to make sure you install ssh in both comptuers....sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:21] <dr_willis> bowo:  ssh ip#
[02:21] <bowo> owh oky thanks
[02:21] <bowo> i try it
[02:21] <nbros652> fellayaboy: do you know how to use the find command from the terminal?
[02:21] <fellayaboy> yes i do..a lil bit nbros652
[02:21] <dr_willis> ssh basics 101
[02:22] <bowo> external program > like putty / openvpn or other like windows
[02:22] <nbros652> fellayaboy: you can pipe the output into a while loop.
[02:22] <fellayaboy> great nbros652 i such a basic programing so how would i write that
[02:22] <fellayaboy> i suck*
[02:22] <dr_willis> putty has a nice gui to enter the ip
[02:22] <somsip>  bowo: so you want to setup ssh daemon on ubuntu?
[02:22] <Artemis3> fellayaboy, probably something like this: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#slideshow
[02:22] <sickn3ss> Hey guys quick question, I took a look at the netcat-openbsd version and it seems to be missing the -e flag. So how could I actually specify a program for netcat, such as /bin/bash to create a reverse/bind shell ? I don't want to use mknod or telnet or pipe it in /dev/tcp/ just netcat, any ideas ?
[02:23] <bowo> no
[02:23] <bowo> i can using ssh connection
[02:23] <bowo> cz my connection is encrypt / blocked with admin
[02:23] <nbros652> fellayaboy: something like... find ./ -name "*.jpg" | while read pic; do [open ${pic} with your program];sleep 60;done
[02:23] <dr_willis> bowo:  be more clear in what you want and need
[02:23] <w30> bowo, look for putty.exe for a Windows environment
[02:24] <Artemis3> fellayaboy, xscreensaver-command seems the key to manual start it
[02:24] <fellayaboy> bowo once ur ssh'ed into your remote machine...if i u want to execute program ON THE remote machine..u type in "DISPLAY=:0 firefox" for example...if u want to run a program on your machine u have to log in again using "ssh -X username@ipaddress
[02:25] <bowo> oke thanks fellayaboy
[02:25] <bowo> openvpn is there for free?
[02:25] <bowo> to surf freely
[02:25] <somsip> bowo: yes. there are a few. freevpn, usaip for example
[02:26] <fellayaboy> bowo once ur sshed with -X you can run a program via terminal "firefox" "transmission" and  the window will display as if your on that machine
[02:26] <bowo> ssh -x<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:26] <fellayaboy> u shouldnt show ur username and ip address in a public room...someone could hack u...just a warning/ piece of advice
[02:26] <dr_willis> x and X are opposites in ssh
[02:27] <fellayaboy> dr_willis, what do u mean
[02:27] <bowo> direct me please
[02:27] <fellayaboy> nbros652, that seems like it could do ima see brb
[02:27] <dr_willis> dont use -x when you mean - X
[02:27] <iarp> Anyone have a copy of ubuntu's sources.list file, this ec2 one keeps failing.
[02:28] <davidvip> hi all i need help on intel graphics
[02:28] <fellayaboy> well bowo u have to make sure ur router has the port for ssh opened..which is 22..then install openssh-server on both pcs..the machine ur using and the one u want to connect to
[02:28] <dr_willis> !ssh
[02:28] <davidvip> i need some help to troubleshoot my video problem using intel-graphics
[02:28] <davidvip>  if i leave the machine running on long hours i might end up the entire desktop freeze and the display like this video i capture http://youtu.be/KxevkWbpWzM
[02:28] <tobe> is it possible to "downgrade" from ubuntu11.10 to maybe 11.04 or 10.10???
[02:28] <reisio> davidvip: neat
[02:28] <fellayaboy> dr_willis, but they are opposites u say?
[02:28] <zykotick9> !downgrade | tobe
[02:28] <reisio> tobe: the sanest way to downgrade Ubuntu is to reinstall
[02:29] <dr_willis> one disables.. other enables fellayaboy
[02:29] <tobe> bah humbubg....
[02:29] <fellayaboy> so it will edit the X11 forwarding configuration?
[02:29] <davidvip> reisio: neat?
[02:29] <reisio> davidvip: means interesting
[02:30] <davidvip> i find nothing on /var/logs :grin
[02:30] <bowo> then who do i freely surf
[02:31] <dr_willis> X enables. x disables i think
[02:31] <bowo> cz my internet connection at the limit to open a website
[02:31] <bowo> omg
[02:31] <dr_willis> bowo:  freely meaning what?
[02:32] <davidvip> could it be driver?
[02:33] <darkstar999> dr_willis: bowo said his connection is blocked/filtered
[02:33] <bowo> i can only open a certain website only and can't be free to open his
[02:34] <dr_willis> bowo: and whos blocking you?
[02:34] <bowo> Administrator
[02:34] <dr_willis> a company?
[02:34] <bowo> yep
[02:34] <davidvip> hmm.. thanks anyway, gotta find solution elsewhere
[02:34] <darkstar999> (his work)
[02:34] <bowo> i can't open facebook orrrrr other
[02:35] <dr_willis> one way to get fired.....
[02:35] <Tidals> just mailed your admin with logs
[02:35] <bowo> what you mean
[02:35] <bowo> omg :D
[02:35] <Tidals> i wish i was joking
[02:35] <dr_willis> vpn. or a ssh tunnel to a outside server
[02:35] <Tidals> or well, you wish I was.
[02:35] <Jonta> Make your time (:
[02:35] <qin> bowo: So you came here to moun about admin?
[02:36] <bowo> yesterday i was able to surf freely on the windows by  using ultrasurf
[02:36] <dr_willis> you mean 'unrestricted'
[02:36] <dr_willis> freely is a vague term :-)
[02:37] <bowo> thats cool'
[02:37] <bowo> yeah unrestricted
[02:37] <darkstar999> bowo: what is your native language?
[02:37] <Tidals> indonesian
[02:38] <dr_willis> bypassing company security can get you fired.
[02:38]  * w30 looks at scoreboard Admin: 2 bowo:1 *smile*
[02:38] <Tidals> biznet range
[02:38] <Jonta> dr_willis: Depends on the company
[02:39] <dr_willis> i saud 'can' not will  :-)
[02:39] <Tidals> I wouldn't get fired if i killed our firewalls here i think
[02:39] <Tidals> i think
[02:39] <Jonta> dr_willis: Depends on the company
[02:39] <lauratika> do i have to install java in 11.10 or there is a default alternative?
[02:39] <Jonta> (:
[02:39] <bowo> think
[02:39] <reisio> lauratika: what do you even want it for
[02:39] <dr_willis> !java
[02:40] <Tidals> !removejava
[02:40] <lauratika> to run a windoze application with wine
[02:40] <Jonta> ?
[02:40] <reisio> lauratika: a Windows app that also requires Java™?
[02:40] <reisio> sounds terribad
[02:40] <lauratika> i know
[02:40] <dr_willis> java to run wine?
[02:40] <reisio> lauratika: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html 'No more Sun/Oracle Java'
[02:40]  * Jonta thinks about Java's goals
[02:40]  * reisio drinks java
[02:40] <lauratika> no, java to run appl in wine
[02:41]  * Jonta travels to Java
[02:41] <shell> !bot
[02:41] <darkstar999> lauratika: you'd be much better off running a virtual machine with VirtualBox
[02:41] <reisio> ubottu: you aren't my favorite #ubuntu infobot
[02:41] <dr_willis> !wineteicks
[02:42] <reisio> ubottu: no risk of that
[02:42] <reisio> like I said
[02:42] <dr_willis> !winetricks
[02:42] <shell> suxk
[02:43] <dr_willis> i think i saw somw winetricks script option for java
[02:43] <lauratika> im ok with wine i been running this appl for long now is just that i upgrade the appl and now that also use oneric is asking for java
[02:44] <dr_willis> you mean install java in wine or for ubuntu
[02:44] <lauratika> can i only instal java for wine?
[02:44] <lauratika> like wine tricks or something like this
[02:44] <dr_willis> i think i saw somw winetricks script option for java in wine
[02:45] <reisio> you could try just 'wine path/to/win32javainstaller.exe'
[02:45] <lauratika> does wine comes with java by default?
[02:46] <dr_willis> no it dont
[02:46] <lauratika> ok
[02:46] <dr_willis> that would make no sence :-)
[02:47] <dr_willis> you could ask in the wine channel also
[02:47] <dr_willis> !wine
[02:47] <dr_willis> and the wine app database
[02:48] <Cavezza> Hey Guys - I'm completely new to ubuntu - I need to install a partition on windows - should I download the windows installer version of Ubuntu?
[02:48] <lauratika> thanx i rather just download java
[02:48] <reisio> Cavezza: you need to do what?
[02:49] <Cavezza> My friend's starting to teach me rails tomorrow, he suggested I install ubuntu on a partition- that it will save me a lot of time in the long run
[02:49] <reisio> Cavezza: do you know what a partition is?
[02:50] <Cavezza> Not really - based on a quick read, I'm assuming I have to divide my hard drive, but I assumed there'd be a resource that would do it in a somewhat automatic manner
[02:50] <reisio> Cavezza: let me rephrase, do you 1) want to do exactly what your friend said and he said to install "to a partition", or 2) simply install Ubuntu in whichever way is simplest
[02:50] <reisio> ah
[02:50] <reisio> there might be, but I don't recall people suggesting any
[02:50] <reisio> Cavezza: you have Windows on the entire disk right now, aye?
[02:50] <Cavezza> "You might want to install Ubuntu on a partition ( > 50 gb if you can spare) beforehand"
[02:50] <Cavezza> Yes - windows on entire disk
[02:51] <reisio> Cavezza: okay, and you'd like to do this as opposed to running Ubuntu in a virtual machine or other somewhat simpler approaches, right?
[02:52] <Cavezza> Honestly, I didn't follow up to figure out exactly what I needed - I'm thinking I can install ubuntu on an older pc to test it out
[02:52] <reisio> Cavezza: ah, that would be simpler
[02:52] <reisio> Cavezza: to install alongside a Windows usually you have to defrag Windows, boot to a live OS, and resize partitions
[02:52] <reisio> the last bit is potentially not completely safe :D so you would want to have backed up your most important files first
[02:53] <reisio> whereas installing on a spare box you have is: insert cd, click things, done
[02:53] <Cavezza> Cool - Okay - sounds like I should install one in a virtual machine first, and then go from there.
[02:53] <reisio> or even insert USB
[02:53] <reisio> Cavezza: that's a pretty simple route :D
[02:53] <reisio> Cavezza: what's your processor? ram?
[02:54] <Cavezza> 3gb amd athlon
[02:54] <Cavezza> 2.2 GHz
[02:54] <reisio> that should do nicely
[02:55] <reisio> Cavezza: you want further instruction?
[02:55] <wiggmpk> Why, all of a sudden did my keyboard shortcut to launch Terminal stop working? I tried to reset the shortcut and now I cant declare "CTRL" in the shortcut, despite pressing CTRL it only shows ALT+T when I reset the shortcut.
[02:55] <reisio> wiggmpk: smack all your ctrl, shift, alt, win keys to ensure none are stuck
[02:55] <Emiru> what command do you use to remove a directory with a console ?
[02:56] <wiggmpk> reisio: they are not stuck
[02:56] <reisio> Emiru: a directory you assume to be empty, or other?
[02:56] <Artemis3> wiggmpk, don't smack, gently push the buttons
[02:56] <Cavezza> No - that should be good enough - Some trial and error should help nicely - thanks a ton!
[02:56] <reisio> Emiru: for the former, rmdir, otherwise rm -fr
[02:56] <dr_willis> Emiru:  rmdir
[02:56] <reisio> Artemis3: presumably he was already doing that :p
[02:56] <Emiru> rmdir alright thanks guys !
[02:56] <reisio> Cavezza: okay, well I'll go ahead and suggest VirtualBox over other VM solutions
[02:56] <reisio> Cavezza: and if your processor supports AMD-V, go ahead and get the amd64 install image
[02:57] <flaguy48> Cavezza: to learn rails?  Do that on your Win box, that should work.  Mess with Linux later ........
[02:57] <wiggmpk> Artemis3: reisio: it's not stuck, I can use CTRL + C & CTRL + SHIFT + C and the paste equivalent with no problems.
[02:57] <reisio> flaguy48: he's learning from someone who's only willing to teach him the proper way :p
[02:57] <ISOcrates> I accidentally made a soft link with two directory names instead of one directory and a link name: ln -s /scripts/ /home/nikolas/Dropbox/salokin. How can I just delete the soft link?
[02:58] <Cavezza> okay - cool thanks much appreciated
[02:58] <Cavezza> yeah flaguy48 - thanks for the tip
[02:58] <manofmilk> ISOcrates, try and use ' ' marks
[02:59] <ISOcrates> manofmilk, how do you mean?
[03:00] <manofmilk> ISOcrates,
[03:00] <manofmilk> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-remove-delete-symbolic-softlink-command/
[03:02] <ISOcrates> manofmilk: thank you
[03:03] <IR4520> 45.0.67
[03:04] <reisio> IR4520: couldn't agree more
[03:04] <snowrichard> hi.  Software center on latest version of ubuntu is not letting me install packages.  It says trouble fetching files, then a warning about untrusted sources.  I was able to install xchat and virtualbox with synaptic but still warnings about unverified packages
[03:05] <manofmilk> check your sources list
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> snowrichard: Try clicking "Update" again in software update, then try again.
[03:06] <hubble> hello
[03:07] <reisio> hiyo
[03:07] <three18ti> hello.
[03:07] <Kouen> i need help
[03:08] <Kouen> someone can help me???
[03:08] <reisio> Kouen: not until we know what is wrong
[03:09] <Kouen> i need to automount ntfs filesystems (drives)
[03:09] <Kouen> i try to use unit manager (drive manager)
[03:09] <Kouen> but unity doesnt let me
[03:09] <Kouen> how can i do a sudo for apps running via unity??
[03:10] <reisio> Kouen: they should automount by default
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> guys, i have a down system,, it wont pass the boot up process additionally it has run into the "monitor frequency out of range" issue, so i effectively have no sight into the machine.. i was able to get a flash card setup with ubuntu 11.10 386 and via booting up this live system, i can mount the drive containing the hosed OS.. i am like 100% sure that it is something silly halting boot but i'd like to fix the frequency issue.. any s
[03:10] <Kouen> it says there are no drives available please contact an administrator
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> +monitor/resolution worked previous to 11.10 upgrade
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> i opted to revert any changes i had in the grub.conf to the vendor default.. i guess that "broke" it.. although on 11.04 it always just worked
[03:11] <Kouen> any time i want to use the ntfs units i have to go to nautilus and click on each drive
[03:12] <Kouen> it doesnt autonmount by default
[03:12] <reisio> Kouen: hum, well you can just add them to fstab to be sure they're mounted at bootup
[03:13] <Kouen> there are some key shotcut to run disk manager (drive manager) as Super User??
[03:13] <Kouen> i prefer GUIS
[03:14] <scorchgeek> Kouen: the only way I know of is using fstab
[03:14] <Kouen> ok
[03:14] <shell> !bot
[03:15] <Guest19552> any body from china?
[03:15] <scorchgeek> this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:15] <scorchgeek> it's a little complicated, but you'll learn a lot
[03:15] <Kouen> ok thanks a lot scorchgeek
[03:15] <Kouen> i have to go now
[03:16] <Kouen> salutations from argentina guys
[03:16] <Kouen> girls
[03:17] <javier_faj> in ubuntu (11.10) wireless internet goes very slow (sometimes doesnt even go) while everyone else in the house has fast connection with windows (I do have fast myself if I start in windows). Someone knows how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/eCnmGcLM
[03:18] <vibhav> scorchgeek: You could have intoduced him to psydm
[03:18] <scorchgeek> vibhav: I'd never heard of it
[03:18] <scorchgeek> looks interesting though
[03:20] <vibhav> javier_faj: Is it a laptop? Please define the wireless card
[03:20] <vibhav> javier_faj: And yes , Is the connection dropping at any time?
[03:20] <snowrichard> hmm i see  a reboot coming... kernel version 3 update
[03:22] <[snake]> is there a gnome 1 looking icon theme?
[03:22] <[snake]> I can't find it
[03:24] <javier_faj> vibhav: yes, it's a laptop, acer. wireless card is "Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)". Connection is lost from time to time,and what i do is to disconnect and connect the wifi signal and I have internet for a while again. But it's not always (but often) that is this slow, neither that I can make it work again)
[03:25] <skumara> hi ubuntu, how to add custom sound theme in ubuntu? like when i want to minimise or maximise windows i want some sound?
[03:27] <nairb> javier_faj: sounds like your are experiencing symptoms of a compromised network, man-in-the middle type of attack.
[03:31] <Argos20> hey all wsup
[03:31] <Argos20> is ubuntu any good
[03:32] <pangolin> try it and decide for yourself
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> Argos20: What answer do you expect to a question like that in this channel?
[03:32] <soreau> skumara: There is a sound plugin for compiz though you would have to build it
[03:32] <Argos20> just curious is it for games
[03:33] <soreau> Argos20: It isnt for games though there are many games for linux as well as wine to run games designed for windows
[03:33] <Argos20> do i need core i7 to run this or better
[03:33] <soreau> no
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> Argos20: Not at all.
[03:34] <Argos20> is the response time better then windows
[03:34] <soreau> it can run on pretty much any pc that isnt more than a decade old
[03:34] <soreau> The response of what?
[03:34] <Slaytanic_> QQQ
[03:35] <javier_faj> vibhav, any idea?
[03:35] <[snake]> is there a gnome 1 looking icon theme? where is it?
[03:35] <Argos20> i dont have to wait for the browser to open
[03:35] <[snake]> like red hat original gnome icons
[03:35] <Argos20> what version of ubunut is there
[03:35] <soreau> Load times depend on what the application loads when it starts
[03:35] <Argos20> ubuntu
[03:36] <soreau> ! 11.10
[03:36] <darkstar999-away> Argos20: You can try Ubuntu without getting rid of Windows
[03:36] <urlin2u> [snake], not really in ubuntu, any redone redhat has all redhat removed anyway.
[03:36] <vibhav> javier_faj: - Read more @ http://www.hitxp.com/articles/software/ubuntu-fix-slow-wireless-internet-connection-speed-upgrading-11-04-natty-narwhal/ © hitxp.com
[03:36] <Argos20> i got 2 hard drives that will help?
[03:36] <nairb> Argos20: http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[03:36] <vibhav> javier_faj: Could be due to the Power Management
[03:37] <darkstar999> Argos20: You could have windows installed on one, and Ubuntu on the other.
[03:37] <vibhav> javier_faj: I also had this problem
[03:38] <javier_faj> vibhav, if it is about dissabling power management, I don't think that's the thing. It's already dissabled
[03:38] <Argos20> ok cool ill give it chat
[03:38] <Argos20> wherer do i download it from
[03:38] <kierkkadon> What's a good ANSI C compiler to use?
[03:38] <darkstar999> ubuntu.com
[03:38] <[snake]> urlin2u, i meant like how red hat had the old icons like these: http://www.linuxinsight.com/files/images/gnome_old.png
[03:38] <soreau> Argos20: ubottu already told you where
[03:38] <soreau> ! 11.10
[03:38] <soreau> ! download
[03:39] <vibhav> javier_faj: You can still try it
[03:39] <javier_faj> vibhav, ok, I'm trying to  open the page :)
[03:40] <Argos20> which one do i download
[03:41] <darkstar999> Argos20: what kind of computer do you have?
[03:41] <urlin2u> [snake], I suspect if you look on the web you will find something, or try and tweak what is stock till your happy, getting an actual answer on the irc of a specific theme or icon set in the repos may be a long wait though.
[03:41] <Argos20> cor i7-920
[03:41] <darkstar999> Get the 64-bit version
[03:41] <Argos20> i have windows 64bit
[03:42] <Argos20> oh ok thanks..the amd one?
[03:42] <darkstar999> yes
[03:42] <reisio> ^
[03:42] <d34d1y> After running compiz --replace my windows and everything disappeared, all I see is my wallpaper, any ideas?
[03:42] <soniko> salve ragazzi
[03:42] <soniko> buonasera
[03:42] <soniko> chi parla la mia lingua???
[03:42] <reisio> d34d1y: run mutter --replace ?
[03:42] <d34d1y> How? All I have is my desktop and a wallpaper
[03:43] <Astroe> Heya dudes :)
[03:43] <nairb> d34dly - lolz. would need more info than that. what window manager? what version of ubuntu?
[03:43] <somsip> !it | soniko
[03:43] <Argos20> wow how fast is this download 700 in 4minutes lol
[03:44] <d34d1y> 11.04 I mean everything is gone I got into firefox by using find help online via ctrl+alt+del menu
[03:44] <nairb> d34dly - you could always drop out to a terminal
[03:44] <reisio> Argos20: I'm going to go ahead and say 175MB per minute

[03:44] <Argos20> wow some server you guys have
[03:44] <kierkkadon> What should the argument for apt-get install be for gcc?
[03:44] <reisio> Argos20: you probably lucked out and got a local Australian mirror
[03:44] <reisio> kierkkadon: depends why you want it
[03:45] <Argos20> awesome
[03:45] <DeviceZer0> anyone here using brtfs? Fresh install and chose to use brtfs for / ...is it more or is it almost painfully slow? Using apt to install stuff takes SOOOOO long.
[03:45] <reisio> I used to have a mirror for the distro I use in the same town as me
[03:45] <kierkkadon> reisio, I want to get python to work
[03:45] <reisio> it was super awesome
[03:45] <reisio> RIP
[03:45] <nairb> kierkkadon - sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:45] <reisio> kierkkadon: python doesn't have much to do with gcc
[03:46] <reisio> DeviceZer0: btrfs performs well, but unfortunately the fsck isn't quite ready yet
[03:46] <crus> Hi guys, I've got an OpenVZ VPS running Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS, I put a link from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/firewall to /root/firewall
[03:46] <kierkkadon> reisio, the README file said that python needed a C compiler, and it specifically mentioned gcc as an example
[03:46] <reisio> DeviceZer0: so if your filesystem becomes corrupted, you will be in for some waiting
[03:46] <crus> The interface doesn't come up when i do this?
[03:46] <crus> post boot the script works fine
[03:46] <reisio> kierkkadon: what readme file?
[03:46] <reisio> kierkkadon: to install python you'd probably run sudo apt-get install python, and get a _precompiled_ python interpreter
[03:46] <azrad> hi noob here; i messed up my ubuntu install; when i log in through the graphial window it lets me in; to a blank desktop with a terminal open and nothing else.... need advise to just reinstall it back to the way it was from the distro or something
[03:47] <reisio> azrad: you want what, GNOME?
[03:47] <azrad> i was messing around with compiz and unity (that was the cause of the problem)
[03:47] <kierkkadon> reisio, The one on the python website...I downloaded a tar ball file, extracted it, and read the readme inside
[03:47] <reisio> kierkkadon: okay, that's not how most people would install python
[03:47] <azrad> reisio; that would be fine i guess; anything is better than what i got; not picky just need something :)
[03:47] <kierkkadon> Also, I'm completely new to linux
[03:47] <dkog> Anybody know what happened to package "iptables-persistent" ?  It used to work in 11.04, now I can't even find it.
[03:47] <DeviceZer0> reisio, ah. Well..i may just reinstall tomorrow with ext4 then. I thought I'd give brtfs a shot since it seems to be all the rage now..but this is getting annoying. Install a few dependencies for compiling xbmc has taken around 30-35 mins so far...like 15 seconds to dl the debs and now its SLOWLY installing them all.
[03:47] <reisio> kierkkadon: you should exploit your package manager: sudo apt-get install python ... it might even already be installed
[03:48] <nairb> azrad - you probably just need to log out to your login-manager, then select a different desktop environment. sounds like your selected Xterm
[03:48] <DeviceZer0> Something has to be wrong. Apt has never taken this long before.
[03:48] <reisio> azrad: yes hit the cog next to the login box
[03:48] <reisio> kierkkadon: I could tell :)
[03:48] <reisio> kierkkadon: with Linux you rarely go to a website and download a package
[03:48] <kierkkadon> reisio, how do I use the package manager really? Just use the names of files that I want? Is there somewhere I can look at a list or search?
[03:48] <azrad> reisio: ok thanks for the tip; i'll have to reboot to try it
[03:48] <reisio> kierkkadon: more frequently you look for a package by name or description with your package manager frontend, and tell it to install, and are done
[03:48] <reisio> kierkkadon: yes there's a frontend called 'Software Center'
[03:49] <reisio> kierkkadon: and you can install a slightly more versatile one called 'synaptic' if you like
[03:49] <reisio> kierkkadon: there's also a TUI frontend called aptitude, and you can use apt-get install as well
[03:49] <kierkkadon> reisio, I have that, and I've been using it, but it doesn't seem to have a very complete database. I don't normally find what I'm looking for
[03:49] <kierkkadon> I'm using Muon, the default KDE one
[03:50] <reisio> kierkkadon: can you give an example of something you couldn't find?
[03:50] <kierkkadon> MATLAB
[03:50] <kierkkadon> Dwarf Fortress
[03:51] <Guest28728> wow has mint really overtaken ubuntu :-( I finally found a cool unity app that I think fixes my issues with ubuntu called MyUnity
[03:52] <reisio> kierkkadon: to explain that, my guess is that's due to matlab's licensing
[03:52] <d34d1y> How do I get my windows and such back after I get into terminal?
[03:52] <reisio> kierkkadon: and dwarf fortress is probably just new
[03:52] <ZenGuy3111> Guest28728:  once unity becomes more feature complete and refine ubuntu will reign again
[03:52] <reisio> although games frequently have annoying licensing as well
[03:52] <kierkkadon> Also, searching 'python' in Muon returns nothing
[03:52] <reisio> kierkkadon: in any case, what you typically do for packages that _aren't_ in the official package repo
[03:52] <aeon-ltd> d34d1y: ctrl-alt-f11 iirc
[03:52] <nairb> d34dly - depends on your desktop environment, and windows manager.
[03:52] <alsoeric> any ideas on how to create unity launchers?  I want to create a variety of term launchers,each launching a different ssh session
[03:52] <reisio> kierkkadon: is 1) look for a 3rd party repo with the package or 2) look for a .deb file on their website
[03:53] <[snake]> good night community of linux users.
[03:53] <reisio> kierkkadon: well then this muon you have sounds like garbage :)
[03:53] <nairb> alsoeric - unity uses .desktop files
[03:53] <kierkkadon> reisio, the review for it _within Muon_ was only 3/5
[03:53] <kierkkadon> xD
[03:53] <reisio> kierkkadon: hahaha ha
[03:54] <kierkkadon> I'm currently getting synaptic
[03:54] <alsoeric> edit with emacs,no gui?? :-)
[03:54] <Guest28728> ZenGuy3111: I hope so cause I'm on mint12 now and sure they have a somewhat good bottom taskbar big whoop nothing that I personally think makes them any better, heck i didn't like it so i'm on xfce
[03:54] <reisio> kierkkadon: the bottom line is unless the package is _incredibly obscure_ (matlab and python do not qualify), there are already compiled binaries for it, and you don't need gcc
[03:54] <azrad> reisio: woot ok that got me to a usable desktop (now i can continue to play around with it)
[03:54] <reisio> azrad: fun to break things, eh?
[03:54] <azrad> lol yeah
[03:54] <reisio> azrad: next time just restart gdm
[03:55] <nairb> alsoeric - http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/list-of-custom-launchers-quicklists-for-unity
[03:55] <azrad> reisio: thanks, got any tips for repairing unity?
[03:55] <kierkkadon> reisio, thanks for your help
[03:55] <robin0800> kierkkadon: are you using the muon package manager ore the muon software centre
[03:56] <kierkkadon> robin0800, I was using Muon Software Center, now I'm using Synaptic
[03:56] <javier_faj> vibhav, i followed what you sent, and it looks like it did something. It's not totally stable, but more stable and faster than before. Hope i can make it stay that way. I'm very surprised it worked, cause power management was already ser to "off", but ordering to off it again make it work better. Weird :)
[03:56] <vibhav> javier_faj: What do you mean by stable?
[03:56] <robin0800> kierkkadon: you should use the package manager for things like python
[03:57] <azrad> well i'm off to reek havoc on my machine; thanks again reisio
[03:57] <kierkkadon> robin0800, I see that now
[03:57] <alsoeric> nairb, thanks   1 prob is right click menu on desk top does not display anything related to launcher creation
[03:58] <Astroe> So hey, I'm installing Ubuntu Netbook 10.04 for the first time on a book that's supposed to be for an 8 year old. How to child-proof Ubuntu?
[03:58] <nairb> alsoeric - just use a text editor, and create a .desktop file launcher  http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[03:58] <vibhav> Astroe: define 'child proof'
[03:59] <reisio> Astroe: you want to keep it from being broken, or from being used to look at tubgirl?
[03:59] <Astroe> vibhav: Like, I want it to be simple, so I'm going to put a Firefox icon on the desktop labeled "Internet" but I want to prevent him from visiting porn sites
[04:00] <Astroe> or anything that might scar the poor boy
[04:00] <reisio> mmmm
[04:00] <reisio> there are some filter apps...
[04:00] <vibhav> Astroe: Use any proper DNS Service like OPENSN
[04:00] <reisio> but they aren't as good as, like... teaching him the value of not wanking 24/7
[04:00] <nairb> alsoeric - or use alacarte (install it if not installed) and copy/edit the .desktop file it makes
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: Obligatory comment about technical solutions to social problems ;)
[04:01] <Astroe> it's not my kid, roomie's grrandson, so teaching him to not wank is out
[04:01] <reisio> Astroe: dodged a bullet there
[04:01] <reisio> you could just autoload xeyes, that'd be discouraging :p
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: dansguardian is the name of the most popular web filtering app in the repos.
[04:01] <toro> m
[04:01] <nairb> Astroe - you can always do host redirection
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: You can also look at sabayon for locking down the desktop settings.
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> has anyone had the issue where the updated to 11.10 and began receiving frequency out of range on their monitor after?
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: Also, pessulus
[04:03] <Astroe> With dansguardian do I have to enter each website individually that I want to block?
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: No, it has categories
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> Astroe: No filter is foolproof, but they try.
[04:03] <Astroe> Oh cool, I'll check it out. Thanks :)
[04:03] <urlin2u> Astroe, kind of a big risk for a child not really your responsibility, but somewhat becomes one when you do this, if me I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole.
[04:04] <Astroe> She specifically asked me to filter the kids internet though
[04:04] <Astroe> She wants him on armorgames.com and that's pretty much it
[04:04] <Astroe> And in exchange for helping her with computer stuff she "helps" me on math homework :p
[04:05] <reisio> muahahahahahah
[04:05] <reisio> multiplication, amirite?
[04:05] <cobalt237> Is there a way to see the flags a launcher on the unity dash may be using?
[04:05] <reisio> cobalt237: undoubtedly in some . dir in ~/ somewhere
[04:05] <reisio> y'know, or /etc/
[04:05] <urlin2u> still woudn't I would say seek professional help, just the fact that you come here for info, would be a red flag or should be for her, as far as your knowledge base and where and who should be the person doing this.
[04:06] <reisio> Astroe: you could fairly easily block every site but that one, but that'd be a bit lame :p
[04:06] <Astroe> Yeah, I figured a whitelist would solve it, but that would be lame
[04:06] <Astroe> I want him to be able to get to any site regarding Ubuntu tech support too :p
[04:06] <cobalt237> Yeah, but which file?
[04:07] <reisio> I assume dansguardian will be relatively simple to configure, once it's installed
[04:08] <Astroe> I'm booting the VM to check now :D
[04:08] <Astroe> While I'm in here, anyone have any experriance with WinXP dual boot, installed after Ubuntu?
[04:08] <Astroe> With no CD btw
[04:08] <javier_faj> vibhav, stable: before doing this, I was trying to install gimp in terminal, and speed of download was not higger than a few mb (10 kb/s, more often 1000 bytes/s, and some times 0 bytes/s. That is not stable). After I did this change, it went up to 100kb/s, for some minutes, but in between, going down to several bytes/s for some moments (and back to speed later)
[04:09] <reisio> Astroe: you need to know how to do it with no CD?
[04:10] <Astroe> Yeah, I have the WinXP .iso provided by my school, but no CD's to burn it to. Do have a 4GB flash drive though
[04:10] <nairb> Astroe - there is also nanny
[04:10] <reisio> if it's not for games and the hardware isn't too bad, I'd suggest using a VM instead
[04:10] <nairb> sudo apt-get install nanny
[04:11] <Astroe> It is for games though :p I have a winxp VM that I use for homework
[04:12] <Astroe> But I have 20GB on my HD that are for WinXP but I don't want to have to re-install my Ubuntu
[04:12] <Astroe> Config is a B****  :p
[04:12] <reisio> Astroe: :p
[04:12] <reisio> Astroe: if you have access to a Windows box, most of the USB imaging tools for Windows media are... win32
[04:13] <Astroe> lol that sucks
[04:13] <reisio> there is a (video, pfft) how to over here, though, for Windows 7 (I assume most of the steps would be the same): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv1tHc_UiWA
[04:13] <Astroe> Could I image the USB from a VM?
[04:13] <reisio> yeah you could :p
[04:14] <Astroe> Oh then that would be no trouble, the trrick would be getting rerscatux or the grub rescue disk back onto the usb after win install
[04:14] <reisio> it would?
[04:15] <Astroe> Hmm.. Maybe if I booted to live cd and installed frrom there. Cool, thanks dudes :)
[04:15] <A-KO> Has anyone seen this possible/rumored SSH 0-day?
[04:16] <nairb> Astroe - you can use usb-creator on the live-cd to install ubuntu to a usb, if thats what you need
[04:16] <A-KO> all I've got is a video showing a demonstration of it but not much else
[04:16] <reisio> video? lawl
[04:16] <Astroe> nairb: I'm trying to install WinXP to the USB, thanks though
[04:17] <reisio> Astroe: oh It hought you wanted to install it to a hard disk _from_ Usb
[04:17] <Astroe> Yes, that
[04:17] <reisio> ah okay good
[04:17] <reisio> installing _to_ a USB is even more of a PITA
[04:17] <Astroe> But saying install to USB is simpler :p
[04:17] <zay> !ping
[04:18] <reisio> !pong
[04:18] <reisio> !cookie
[04:18] <reisio> :D
[04:18] <nairb> sorry, got it backwards, since i dont tend to use windows.
[04:18] <reisio> nairb: you Ubuntu user you
[04:18] <nairb> mostly ubuntu, debian, or gentoo
[04:18] <reisio> you fancy Gentoo user, you
[04:18] <nairb> have also done LFS
[04:18] <Astroe> Yeah, I don't like to. Had to install VirtualBox to use it for school. Eliminates compatibility issues with theirr machines :(
[04:18] <nairb> i love gentoo
[04:19] <nairb> portage rules
[04:19] <nairb> wish debian/ubuntu had a mixed configuration for portage & apt
[04:20] <reisio> nairb: does your LFS survive?
[04:20] <reisio> Astroe: still, better than forced to do a physical install
[04:20] <reisio> nairb: no need, all you need is a binary repo for Gentoo
[04:21] <nairb> reisio - ;-) it was a while ago. and maybe on one of these computers
[04:21] <Astroe> rerisio: Yeah it's only for the Word documents, don't need to connect to the school or anything :/
[04:21] <nairb> reisio - yeah
[04:21] <reisio> Sabayon has one, but unfortunately they broke backwards compatibility with vanilla Gentoo, for no good reason AFAICT
[04:21] <Astroe> Anybody got Ubuntu working with X on a Droid?
[04:22] <reisio> pretty sure some have, yes
[04:22] <Astroe> Ah, but without chrooting!
[04:22] <reisio> without rooting?
[04:22] <reisio> that'd be some trick
[04:22] <jfcaron> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, my power went out during a partition resize using gparted.  The partition involved was not a boot partition, just media like movies.  When I run the program testdisk, it finds the right partitions and files, but fsck and gparted do not seem to agree.  Any ideas?
[04:22] <nairb> reisio - i know. but i like the source-config-managment with portage. just helps you figure out what your system is really doing
[04:22] <Astroe> Chrooting to a loop file through android
[04:22] <reisio> jfcaron: what FS?
[04:23] <Astroe> Like installing an Ubuntu ROM straight to the SD card.
[04:23] <jfcaron> reisio: ext3
[04:23] <reisio> nairb: yeah, I meant re: wish debian had portage/apt mixed config
[04:23] <reisio> nairb: simpler to just make a binary repo for Gentoo
[04:23] <reisio> and a wrapper if you need it
[04:23] <reisio> I know there's erpm :p
[04:23] <A-KO> anyways, yes
[04:23] <A-KO> the 0 day is legit
[04:23] <reisio> sorry, epm
[04:23] <A-KO> gg :P
[04:23] <nairb> reisio - there is sabayon (i think its is spelled)
[04:23] <reisio> rpm workalike for emerge
[04:23] <reisio> nairb: ...dude I just said that
[04:24] <nairb> ;-)
[04:24] <nairb> oh
[04:24] <nairb> kinda tired
[04:24] <reisio> nairb: more coffee for you, then
[04:24] <jfcaron> reisio: If the filesystem was ext3, is the journal able to recover the files?
[04:24] <nairb> reisio - mountain dew has gone flat, and out of coffeee
[04:24] <Astroe> Ooh, good one. With the "Hide" buttons enabled on your toolbars, is there a keyboard shortcut to hide and unhide them?
[04:25] <nairb> reisio - and loads of code to go
[04:26] <reisio> jfcaron: might want to talk to ##linux about that
[04:26] <clear> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and having trouble with my wireless connection
[04:26] <jfcaron> reisio: Ok, I'll try there.  Thanks.
[04:26] <nairb> reisio - good chatting. keep on keeping on. and good night.
[04:27] <mae-ubu1004> hi
[04:27] <mae-ubu1004> is somebody there?
[04:27] <tomek_> hi
[04:28] <aeon-ltd> mae-ubu1004: yes
[04:28] <mae-ubu1004> great
[04:28] <mae-ubu1004> i've just installed xfce
[04:28] <vibhav> Astroe: Use any proper DNS Service like OPENDNS
[04:28] <mae-ubu1004> i 've been using gnome so far
[04:29] <aeon-ltd> mae-ubu1004: all in one line
[04:29] <Astroe> vibhav: For what?
[04:29] <aeon-ltd> please
[04:29] <ssfdre38> for openvps, does the client need to install the deamon?
[04:29] <clear> how do i find out if my wireless drivers are installed? i am having wireless problems
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> vibhav: OpenDNS isn't actually proper - they don't return proper NXDOMAIN responses :(
[04:30] <mae-ubu1004> i feel kinda used to  gnome visual effects, does xfce supports vissual effects similar like gnome's?
[04:30] <aeon-ltd> mae-ubu1004: yes, but gnome was using compiz, you can use that with mose xfce apps
[04:30] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: ...you talking about GNOME 2's effects?
[04:31] <mae-ubu1004> correct, Gnomes 2's
[04:31] <vibhav> tonyyarusso: What about Dyndns?
[04:31] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: I don't think GNOME 2 had any, just compiz's as aeon-ltd says
[04:31] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: you can use compiz with Xfce if you want
[04:32] <mae-ubu1004> i see...  i 'll  take a look then at that
[04:32] <mae-ubu1004> thx for your response
[04:32] <nac-godfather> yeah, don't really see anyone saying yes, unity is great, I want gnome-shell over compiz...
[04:33] <reisio> different purposes
[04:33] <nac-godfather> hope they get their act together and come up with some solution
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> vibhav: Totally different type of service.
[04:33] <reisio> nac-godfather: solution to what
[04:34] <nac-godfather> yeah, i keep hearing that, but the overall objective is a huge userbase and one window manager that's cool.
[04:34] <nac-godfather> you'd think everyone would wanna contribute to the best.  So hopefully compiz will conform to gnome3
[04:34] <mae-ubu1004> hard to believe this irc channel is not added by default in gnome
[04:34] <aeon-ltd> not trying to be elitist, but it's really to appeal to new and casual users, if you were serious about several aspects of linux you wouldn't stick to defaults
[04:35] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: for Ubuntu you mean?
[04:35] <neededinghelp> hello all can someone tell me the command for installing gnome desktop on server setup have tried sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ... no joy ....
[04:35] <reisio> that could make sense
[04:35] <mae-ubu1004> yea,  for ubuntu
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> neededinghelp: what comes up whehn you try?
[04:35] <nac-godfather> what is that suppose to mean, so advanced user's should stick to legacy software?
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> no, build up from server then you have control
[04:36] <neededinghelp> unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <reisio> I think he was suggesting that advanced users don't need to rely on Canonical customizing their desktops for them
[04:36] <nac-godfather> not really, especially running ubuntu with it's dependency mess
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> neededinghelp: no internet?
[04:36] <reisio> ...
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> wwut?
[04:36] <reisio> nac-godfather: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe for the children
[04:37] <zykotick9> neededinghelp, what's the output of "lsb_release -sc"
[04:37] <chy> hi
[04:37] <neededinghelp> yea this is all a bad dream ... amd im not talking on line atm ....
[04:37] <reisio> chy: hi
[04:37] <neededinghelp> lol
[04:37] <neededinghelp> yes wired inet on machine and it is on
[04:37] <nac-godfather> nice reisio
[04:38] <nac-godfather> I modified my lsb_release, didn't like it branding my own OS.
[04:38] <nac-godfather> :)
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> wut...
[04:39] <kierkkadon> If I download something with apt-get, where does it go?
[04:39] <kierkkadon> I downloaded python-doc and now I have no idea how to get to it
[04:39] <aeon-ltd> nac-godfather: yet you use a distro that's so heavily into branding, testing and user support
[04:39] <nac-godfather> dpkg -L python doc "kierkkadon"
[04:39] <nac-godfather> that's where it put it's sh*t
[04:40] <nac-godfather> No, I'm just using BT actually
[04:40] <mae-ubu1004> man, i recently tried kde,  heavy, slow, and i couldnt connect trough my wireless  conection
[04:40] <clear> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and having trouble with my wireless connection, how do i check to see if the drivers are installed
[04:40] <kierkkadon> Thanks
[04:40] <nac-godfather> I like gnome, was gonna build my own OS up from LMDE or SID myself, but there's a lot of work involved for minor fixes.
[04:41] <nac-godfather> I want my codecs out of the way and haven't really seen anything appetizing other than LMDE or BT.
[04:42] <nac-godfather> clear, iwconfig
[04:42] <nac-godfather> you could also just try using it, and there are tons of wireless tools out there for checking.
[04:43] <clear> "no wireless extensions"
[04:43] <clear> ;\
[04:44] <DB125> hi, does anyone know about the interface as0t0 in my ifconfig output, how do i remove this.. tnx
[04:44] <gast2root> my xvidcap doesnt record anymore on ocelot
[04:45] <yagoo> DB125, well if it has no ip then it's harmless..
[04:45] <yagoo> DB125, probably a package depends on vpn or something like it
[04:46] <zykotick9> DB125, OpenVPN ring any bells?
[04:46] <fellayaboy> what does the %U do..i see it often in panel icons
[04:46] <reisio> gast2root: recordmydesktop is what people use now, or one of its frontends
[04:46] <DB125> zykotick9, i've already remove openvpn, but it's still there
[04:46] <gast2root> reisio: does recordmydesktop record to mpeg too?
[04:47] <zykotick9> DB125, ? do you see anything "odd" in /etc/network/interfaces (wild guess here)
[04:47] <shane_> Hi, Im having trouble compiling my wireless ralink driver. I have tried to make sense of the errors produced by the makefile however it might as well be double-dutch :S
[04:47] <fellayaboy> how can u run a program from the terminal as if u clicked it the link/icon
[04:47] <DB125> zykotick9: the thing is i cannot update my system because of this
[04:47] <reisio> gast2root: don't know, don't care
[04:48] <shane_> It seems to be errors in the programming of the driver
[04:48] <fellayaboy> meaning i dont want it to be dependent on the terminal im on...so if i close it it wouldnt effect it
[04:48] <gast2root> reisio: ok tnx ill try the package out...
[04:48] <shane_> My errors are here: http://pastebin.com/ZSRAksK9
[04:48] <shane_> Please help, I am running on the slowest connection around because I am using a really old device to connect
[04:49] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, you could try "nohup program" then try closing the terminal to test
[04:49] <shane_> I am following these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6600309
[04:53] <fellayaboy> nah that didnt work but i have a question...usually i see in the icons on top that they have a command section...if u type that command in terminal the program runs..however why is it that when u click it, it doesnt run a terminal window with it ..similiar to the way the program is dependent on the terminal window when it closes when u open it from a terminal?
[04:53] <fellayaboy> its kinda a weird question i guess...
[04:54] <Astroe> I get that, I think it's dependant on whether the progrram was launched by the GUI or the terminal
[04:54] <sattu94> fellayaboy: if you dont want the program to be dependent on the terminal window from which you ran it try adding a '&' at it's end like --> firefox&, after that you can safely close the terminal..
[04:54] <shane_> fellayboy: Both way they both simply access the run file.
[04:54] <fellayaboy> hmm sattu94 let me see
[04:55] <fellayaboy> the reason i ask is if its not running on a terminal than what is it running on when u click the icons above
[04:55] <fellayaboy> its a weird question..
[04:55] <sattu94> fellayaboy: ther terminal acts as an outlet for the program to show errors, it's not required.
[04:55] <fellayaboy> liek what is it running on when u click on the icon ...i guess what program
[04:55] <zykotick9> sattu94, & certainly doesn't work here (closing terminal, closes launched program) using nohup does work though?
[04:56] <fellayaboy> oh i see
[04:56] <sattu94> zykotick9: did you add '&' ?
[04:56] <shane_> fellayaboy: If you wanted to run firefox and typed that into terminal they run (dont quote me) '/usr/bin/firefox'. When you click a launcher, it runs '/usr/bin/firefox'. At least I think that is the directory. Well my point is they both simply run a launcher file, terminal is not responsible for the access.
[04:56] <zykotick9> sattu94, yes "foo &"
[04:56] <zykotick9> sattu94, have YOU tried it?
[04:57] <fellayaboy> i see,...im guessing i was guessing terminal was dependent on everything
[04:57] <shane_> Guys, I am having problems compiling my driver.
[04:57] <fellayaboy> its weird i know
[04:57] <fellayaboy> thanks guys
[04:57] <shane_> My errors are here: http://pastebin.com/ZSRAksK9
[04:58] <sattu94> zykotick9: yes it works, after you press enter, press enter again to get back to the prompt, then exit using ctrl+d, that should do it.
[04:58] <sattu94> fellayaboy: yes it works, after you press enter, press enter again to get back to the prompt, then exit using ctrl+d, that should do it.
[04:58] <fellayaboy> program& seems to work... is itheir a difference between using this and using the icons/menus?
[04:58] <zykotick9> sattu94, that's not the same as closing the terminal
[04:59] <fellayaboy> sattu94, wait im lost what r u talking about sattu94
[04:59] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, i guess i don't understand your question.  Using & just gives you terminal control back, but if you close the terminal - it will close the program you launched.
[04:59] <sattu94> zykotick9: it does not.
[04:59] <fellayaboy> oh ur right zykotick9
[05:00] <zykotick9> sattu94, without your ctrl+d stuff - yes it does
[05:00] <fellayaboy> ooh
[05:00] <sattu94> zykotick9: ctrl+d is as good as typing exit.
[05:00] <fellayaboy> it seems ctrl d closes the terminal and the program still runs
[05:01] <sattu94> yes, the ctrl+d command is equivalent to typing "exit", which is the correct way to close a terminal.
[05:01] <zykotick9> sattu94, the ctrl+d (or exit) does work - but try the X to close the terminal and see what happens
[05:01] <fellayaboy> funny..at first i did program& and then closed da window via the close button and it closed the program..now it doesnt
[05:01] <himuraken> Trying to upgrade a 9.10 server to 10.04 but the repos appear to be gone for 9.10. Anyone got any suggestions?
[05:01] <pangolin> zykotick9: I think what ctrl+d does is detach the terminal
[05:02] <sattu94> pangolin: no, it is as good as typing "exit".
[05:02] <fellayaboy> i guess after pressing ctrl d flipped a switch sorta speak
[05:02] <sattu94> exit does not detach the terminal.
[05:02] <pangolin> sattu94: ok, but if you click on the X it also closes whatever "app &"
[05:02] <sattu94> Basically the 'X' buttons acts as an interrupt or something, which is not asking the program to exit safely.
[05:03] <sattu94> if you dont use the & and then use the X button the terminal will tell you that there is a process running and are you sure you want to quit?
[05:03] <pangolin> sattu94: so the X is like a killsig
[05:04] <pangolin> ?
[05:04] <zykotick9> sattu94, MY point is using "nohup foo" does this properly, so you can use X (or whatever other method) and the app should stay open -- your method is.. unpredictable.
[05:04] <sattu94> zykotick9: my method is used for managing multiple jobs.
[05:04] <fellayaboy> well check this out..i pressed control d on pidgin& ...after i did ..even if i closed the program via x it didnt close...when i transmission-gtk& and closed via x icon it closed the program
[05:04] <sattu94> zykotick9: nohup stands for no hangups.
[05:05] <zykotick9> sattu94, exactly
[05:05] <fellayaboy> so my guess is that if i contrl d from now on it will close via x
[05:05] <fellayaboy> but for how long?
[05:05] <himuraken> Can someone point me to a list of mirrors that might include 9.10
[05:05] <pangolin> old-release.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <pangolin> old-releases.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <reisio> why so old
[05:05] <sattu94> fellayaboy: if you want to launch stuff by typing you can try things like dmenu,synapse, or gnome do, thus sparing you top launch a terminal each time.
[05:05] <zykotick9> !eol | himuraken
[05:06] <fellayaboy> dmenu, synapse and gnome do hmmm
[05:06] <fellayaboy> ok
[05:06] <fellayaboy> tahnk u
[05:06] <sattu94> fellayaboy: personally i prefer synapse, ot dmenu.
[05:06] <fellayaboy> cool thanks
[05:06] <sattu94> fellayaboy: synapse is easiest to set up
[05:07] <himuraken> Thanks zykes-
[05:07] <himuraken> Thanks zykotick9 rather
[05:07] <sattu94> fellayaboy: do sudo apt-get install synapse
[05:07] <fellayaboy> doing it now
[05:07] <fellayaboy> ok done
[05:07] <clear> before i screw something up, anyone available with helping me get my wireless drivers installed correctly
[05:07] <sattu94> then do synapse terminal
[05:08] <fellayaboy> ok
[05:08] <sattu94> the thing will start
[05:08] <MestreLion> Guys... how "safe" and "clean" it is to install latest AMD/ATI Catalyst 11.11 driver in MAverick? The one that ships with it is quite old..
[05:08] <D-coy> kupfer rulz. ..
[05:08] <fellayaboy> cool
[05:08] <fellayaboy> i see the interface
[05:08] <sattu94> fellayaboy: click the little dot beside the videos
[05:08] <fellayaboy> ok
[05:08] <fellayaboy> i did that
[05:08] <sattu94>  fellayaboy there you can set the calling keystroke.
[05:09] <SolarisBoy> anyone want to spare some advice on reviving a down system?
[05:09] <sattu94> fellayaboy: i tihnk it's ctrl+space.
[05:09] <fellayaboy> ctrl+space = activate
[05:09] <sattu94> fellayaboy: so now you can use it to search whatever files, programs, command etcetera.
[05:09] <fellayaboy> ok cool
[05:09] <sattu94> fellayaboy: works?
[05:10] <fellayaboy> oh yeah
[05:10] <fellayaboy> works real good
[05:11] <fellayaboy> ima make sure to add that to startup application
[05:11] <fellayaboy> and alt+f2 for now
[05:11] <fellayaboy> tahnks sattu94 works very nicely and fast
[05:12] <fellayaboy> tinkering with this touchpad gets to yha in the long run
[05:13] <lowkie> anyone have any tips running apache with tomcat on 10.0x LTS?
[05:15] <Guest28469> any one ever install solr on ubuntu?
[05:16] <teddie> No
[05:16] <Guest28469> great look like i am the very first
[05:18] <fellayaboy> whats that Guest28469
[05:20] <clear> fellayaboy: can you help me get my wireless working
[05:20] <clear> i am completely lost
[05:20] <fellayaboy> ill try
[05:20] <fellayaboy> im not an expert but ill give it a go with u
[05:20] <clear> fresh install of 10.04 lts
[05:20] <fellayaboy> ok
[05:21] <clear> chris@chris-laptop:~$ iwconfig
[05:21] <clear> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:21] <clear> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:21] <clear> i have the wired connection working, but cant get the wireless to show
[05:22] <fellayaboy> type in ifconfig
[05:22] <fellayaboy> what do u get
[05:22] <Flatlined> What is the wireless card?
[05:22] <cconstantine_> hi?
[05:22] <fellayaboy> ...under wlan0
[05:22] <clear> no wlan0
[05:23] <zykotick9> clear, what wireless card is it?  in a terminal "lspci | grep Network" might show you.
[05:23] <clear> realtek
[05:23] <clear> lspci | grep Network
[05:23] <clear> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)
[05:23] <zykotick9> !realtek | clear
[05:25] <MestreLion> lowkie: i did that with 10.04, apache and tomcat from repos.. worked great... can i help you?
[05:25] <tpocra> Hi, I have a problem with my sound card.  I am NOT using pulseaudio (uninstalled) and just plain ALSA and I degraded my HDMi device by setting snd_hda_intel index=-2
[05:25] <tpocra> But unFORTUNTEly, even though my Creative card is now sound card number 0, it is not outputting any audio at all in any application I try.
[05:25] <fellayaboy> zykotick9, how do u guys know so much... like all these commands etc..how do u know all this stuff..is their a really really good book im missing out on?
[05:25] <lowkie> MestreLion, which mod did you use for the apache/tomcat link?
[05:25] <tpocra> ANd yes the mixer volume is up
[05:26] <clear> fellayaboy: i wished i knew the answer to that lol
[05:26] <clear> i love how stable ubuntu is after i get it all working properly, but im still extremely newb ;\
[05:26] <fellayaboy> what can u guys recommend for a person to go professional? do i have to be a developer?
[05:26] <MestreLion> lowkie: i didnt link them... i kept them using separate ports... apache on 80 and tomcat in 8080 (or 8088, not sure)
[05:26] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, no majical book that i'm aware of ;)  i've been using gnu/linux for quite a long time...
[05:27] <lowkie> MestreLion, ahh…I'm looking to join them, so that one website will do my php and grails stuff
[05:27] <fellayaboy> so mainly most of these commands come from a long time ago..like that command u just gave clear..that commands been their in other previous linux distros etc
[05:28] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, lspci you mean?  yes it's probably in every gnu/linux distro yes (and has been for years)
[05:29] <fellayaboy> i have to seriously read a good book to slap some sense into me..zykotick9 any good links/books that can help me be more proficient with linux
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> fellayaboy: "Professional" what?
[05:30] <fellayaboy> well..not professional...just really darn good....
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> at?
[05:30] <Astroe> fellayaboy: I imagine there's an Ubuntu for Dummies book :p
[05:31] <reisio> fellayaboy: you can learn a lot by just attempting to (correctly/usefully) answer every question you see in, for example, this IRC channel
[05:31] <clear> yea
[05:31] <reisio> and paying attention to what other people answer
[05:31] <fellayaboy> thats true
[05:31] <clear> watching helps learn
[05:31] <reisio> eventually, if you have any aptitude, you'll catch up to most everyone else
[05:31] <tpocra> People on IRC advocate using IRC!!! News at 11....
[05:31] <reisio> :p
[05:31] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, there are several good book for O'Rielly
[05:31] <reisio> this is why classrooms separated by skill do not work
[05:31] <clear> unlike me who never learns
[05:31] <sancas> how can i config nginx
[05:32] <sancas> ?
[05:32] <fellayaboy> yeah alot of the same people come up with really good answers for the community..i know zykotick9 Reisio and a bunch of other guys
[05:32] <reisio> people with less skill do better when those with more are around as examples
[05:32] <clear> i usually google and use ever command i can find without any solution
[05:32] <justice> Hey, i'm trying to figure out how when I boot up in e17 I can connect to the internet (wireless).
[05:32] <Astroe> So is it possible to boot a VM from a physical USB? Just to test that it does boot without restarting.
[05:32] <reisio> fellayaboy: but mostly me right? :p
[05:32] <fellayaboy> clear yeah im kinda in ur boot their too
[05:32] <cyberjorge> hi, anyone know where can i wget this: php-xml-5.3.3-1.w5
[05:32] <clear> then once i am in between to rocks, i come to irc looking for help
[05:32] <reisio> justice: you could run NetworkManager's stuff
[05:32] <reisio> justice: or wicd's
[05:33] <reisio> cyberjorge: what for
[05:33] <fellayaboy> lol reisio..hey i do see u answering alot of questions
[05:33] <justice> reiso: how?
[05:33] <cyberjorge> reisio: i need to install it manually
[05:33] <fellayaboy> lol me too clear
[05:33] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, personally, i wish i'd taken better notes over the years -- i've had to relearn too much.
[05:33] <reisio> cyberjorge: what for
[05:33]  * reisio takes IRC logs
[05:34] <SolarisBoy> i guess i can just run off the live copy of ubuntu activate the volume groups etc etc and just share the nfs shares and stuff from there atleast then i can watch movies and listen to music =(
[05:34] <fellayaboy> yeah i kinda get their too...thats why i just practice what i learn over and over again...just doing the same commands....and just etching them..i learned from persistence
[05:35] <reisio> you could also ls /usr/bin/ and randomly man stuff
[05:35] <fellayaboy> but i hate having to ask so much for everything..im basically always here asking how to do something..fortunately most people have an answer
[05:35] <happygolucky> fellayaboy: helps to have a solid machine too, i was only a real dog for about a year.. this quad core qosmio is beyond breath taking
[05:36] <reisio> fellayaboy: maybe you should ask how to find information :p
[05:36] <fellayaboy> lol
[05:36] <fellayaboy> right
[05:36] <reisio> I s'pose you just did a bit ago, though :p
[05:36] <clear> fellayaboy: i usually only run into problems with doing drivers and getting hardware to work properly
[05:36] <justice> reisio: do I need to dl those (in xfce, since I don't connect in e17..) or are they already there and not where i'm used to looking?
[05:36] <reisio> fellayaboy: you know about apropos?
[05:36] <clear> reisio: so how do i find information on fixing this wireless problem?!
[05:36] <fellayaboy> ..apropos...isnt that what reads ntfs
[05:37] <fellayaboy> no
[05:37] <reisio> justice: what was the original Ubuntu version you installed?
[05:37] <fellayaboy> apropos is what searches man pages i think
[05:37] <reisio> clear: which wireless problem?
[05:37] <cyberjorge> reisio: i need to install php-xml manually on my box
[05:37] <reisio> cyberjorge: your... Ubuntu box? :p
[05:37] <clear> my wireless isnt showing up at all
[05:37] <reisio> clear: know the device model?
[05:37] <fellayaboy> clear is it a usb or an integrated device?
[05:38] <cyberjorge> reisio: yes, my apt is broken and needs php-xml right away
[05:38] <clear> integrated
[05:38] <fellayaboy> did u update linux
[05:38] <fellayaboy> i mean ubuntu....
[05:38] <clear> 8167
[05:38] <clear> yea
[05:38] <fellayaboy> why dont u try to connect it via ethernet..update the OS and see if it works
[05:38] <clear> and when i do, the wired connection dies
[05:38] <fellayaboy> thats very queer
[05:39] <clear> tell me about it
[05:39] <reisio> cyberjorge: what is the package name (not the filename)
[05:40] <clear> reisio: 8167 is the model
[05:40] <Sanus> Hey guys, me again.
[05:40] <Sanus> So,
[05:40] <reisio> clear: um, okay how about the make?
[05:40] <clear> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)
[05:40] <clear> hmm
[05:40] <happygolucky> realtek is a wired, i know because mine is the same one
[05:40] <Sanus> Unity sucks.  I'm wanting to switch to xubuntu-desktop, but I like ubuntu's login screen much better.  How much different is the base xcfe windows manager different from xubuntu-desktop?
[05:41] <justice__> garr..
[05:41] <TXR> Sanus, why not gnome 3.2?
[05:41] <Sanus> Gnome 3.2?
[05:41] <TXR> sanus yeah
[05:41] <Sanus> This sounds exciting, TXR.
[05:41] <TXR> sanus well formally known as gnome-shell
[05:42] <TXR> sanus, I use it for my laptop which runs ubuntu
[05:42] <lowkie> Sanus, agreed.  I went to gnome 3.x
[05:42] <TXR> and I use it for openSUSE
[05:42] <Sanus> It... doesn't look fantastic.  I've already seen it.
[05:42] <justice__> ok so again - what steps do I need to do, now when I have internet or later when i'm in it, to log into the internet in E17?
[05:42] <TXR> yeah but it's fast, and looks better than gnome 2.3.x
[05:43] <Sanus> TXR & lowkie I was hoping for something more like Gnome 2.x.  It gave me a great deal of flexibility which I like.
[05:43] <TXR> Sanus, you may like LXDE then
[05:43] <TXR> LXDE is better and faster than XFCE
[05:43] <reisio> it's lighter, anyways
[05:43] <TXR> and can use gnome apps
[05:43] <Sanus> Does it still have transparency support?
[05:43] <TXR> hmmm, I'm unsure
[05:43] <TXR> what do you need transparency for?
[05:44] <justice__> Review of Lubuntu indicated that it was more bugfree/stable than any of the other ubuntu flavors.
[05:44] <fellayaboy> no gnome 3 doesnt
[05:44] <fellayaboy> at least thast what i found out
[05:44] <lowkie> Sanus, sorry, I wasn't after eye candy….I just wanted to get back to work without having a new UI in my way
[05:44] <happygolucky> Sanus: are you considering those options because you need a speedier buntu? if so xfce and xubuntu isn't all that light weight, lubuntu is very light.. lxde is sharp. i liked it
[05:44] <justice__> Though all reviews tend to say "Nice plain clean looks, but it's pretty dull."
[05:44] <reisio> Sanus: check your package manager for transset
[05:44] <fellayaboy> i turned off unity and just used gnome3 and i couldnt make my panels transparent if thats what u mean
[05:44] <fellayaboy> thats why i stayed with 11.04 for gnome2
[05:45] <Sanus> Both getting this Unity business out of the way and having flexibility over what my desktop looks like for the time when I don't have anything better to do.
[05:45] <reisio> fellayaboy: just that?
[05:45] <fellayaboy> the interface is much lighter too
[05:45] <justice__> lubuntu did check out as the lightest *buntu. xubuntu was clsassified as "middleweight".
[05:45] <TXR> all in all, LXDE is like 40 or so MB's very lightweight
[05:45] <fellayaboy> yes...i love my lil icons on the top on a transparent panel
[05:45] <reisio> unfortunately Xfce has a lot of _optional_ GNOME application support that binary distributions tend to build in, assuming people will want it
[05:46] <Sanus> LXDE does sound right up my alley.
[05:46] <justice__> I've been using xfce for awhile, and kind've like it. It has a nitpick or two.
[05:46] <fellayaboy> clear any progress
[05:46] <reisio> I just gave LXDE a test in case I needed to give someone with an old computer some Linux
[05:46] <reisio> seemed nice enough
[05:46] <reisio> Windows key even opens the menu by default
[05:46]  * reisio looks at KDE
[05:47] <TXR> yeah, and if you use windows + E it opens "My Computer" haha
[05:47] <zykotick9> reisi, LXDE reminds me of Windows95/98
[05:47] <Sanus> So, LXDE...  Is there a lubutnu-desktop suite that I could use?
[05:47] <justice__> the review of kubuntu 11.10 panned it kind've badly, alas.
[05:47] <reisio> zykotick9: really?
[05:47] <TXR> sanus, you can use a lot of the gnome program suits
[05:47] <reisio> I haven't tried a default install, just Lubuntu
[05:47] <fellayaboy> oh and i have a pc at a relatives house...their pcs gpu would lock up...it was all messethe thing would freeze under windows xp and 11.10 but on 10.10 it wouldntd up
[05:47] <TXR> http://pix2links.com/?v=EfqP3.png
[05:47] <zykotick9> reisio, (tab fail before) yes
[05:47] <justice__> I'd think so, they have a standard official lubuntu now.
[05:47] <StepNjump> anyone knows a speech to text app available for linux users?
[05:47] <reisio> it reminded me of... a blue colored ordinary DE
[05:47] <Epsilonultra> how do i create a private channel
[05:47] <happygolucky> Sanus: when i was low on resources i used a lot of kde aps in lubuntu, if i were you and i had a solid machine i'd think about kde as an alternative to gnome
[05:48] <reisio> StepNjump: there's really only Sphinx, AIUI, and DragonNaturallySpeaking in Wine
[05:48] <Epsilonultra> how do i create a channel
[05:48] <reisio> Dragon NaturallySpeaking*
[05:48] <reisio> Epsilonultra: /join #foo
[05:48] <StepNjump> tnx reisio.. Which one is the easiest to install? Are they working or they are just projects?
[05:48] <Epsilonultra> why?
[05:48] <reisio> Epsilonultra: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:48] <Sanus> happygolucky: My processor isn't very strong.  But I've seen some LX business.  I dunno.  I just like having two bars, and throwing up other useful bars as I go.  :P  I am not a fan of Unity
[05:49] <reisio> Epsilonultra: 'foo' is a placeholder, when you join a channel that doesn't exist, it's created
[05:49] <Epsilonultra> ty
[05:49] <Epsilonultra> ok
[05:49] <reisio> Epsilonultra: and you're given temporary ownership
[05:49] <TXR> StepNjump they're really easy to install, you should look it up on google, it's just a couple commands in the terminal
[05:49] <jfcaron> What causes Ubuntu to run fsck when it starts up?  What check is failing that makes it run fsck?
[05:49] <Sanus> happygolucky: Also, kde went kind of slow for me.
[05:49] <justice__> There's some things about Unity that I like, it just isn't there yet.
[05:49] <reisio> StepNjump: they work, but AIUI sphinx is behind dragon naturallyspeaking (which is win32 only, but as I said does run via Wine)
[05:49] <TXR> sanus, agreed, I tried KDE and it was laggy. even switching desktops with one window open it would glitch
[05:49] <zykotick9> jfcaron, after X many mounts fsck is run automatically (is one possible reason)
[05:50] <reisio> TXR: on what hardware?
[05:50] <justice__> jfcaron: you mean the one it runs every so often as a standard procedure?
[05:50] <reisio> jfcaron: not necessarily any failure
[05:50] <lowkie> jfcaron, it will also do it after so much time passing
[05:50] <fellayaboy> ima read up more on the shell on a site thanks guys for all ur help
[05:50] <TXR> reisio, 3.1 Ghz dual core AMD processor Nvidia GTX 260
[05:50] <TXR> reisio running at 1080p
[05:50] <Sanus> Well... I'm gonna try out Lxde.  :)
[05:50] <jfcaron> zykotick9, justice__, reisio, lowkie: Not the scheduled ones, it is doing so because there is an actual problem with a partition, but how does Ubuntu know that there is a problem with one of the partitionsÉ
[05:51] <Sanus> Wow.  50 megabytes is all the size is.  Wow.
[05:51] <happygolucky> Sanus: i'd say it's a hair faster than gnome, like i said though, lubuntu is solid and lxde isn't bad.. I actually use only the base install, xorg and icewm on my slow pony :D
[05:51] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[05:51] <jfcaron> Err, sorry, that É was meant to be a ?
[05:51] <justice__> jfcaron: It does it every so many boots just to make sure there aren't any errors slipping in.
[05:51] <StepNjump> k tnx TXR and reisio... I have ver 9 of Dragon here and is not listed in Wine dB... I will give it a shot what the heck!
[05:51] <StepNjump> Thanks
[05:51] <reisio> TXR: weird... with the nvidia driver?
[05:52] <TXR> reisio, yeah, it was pretty much crap. gnome 3.2 runs like a dream compared to KDE
[05:52] <reisio> StepNjump: it is listed
[05:52] <Sanus> I'll se you all in a little bit.  :)
[05:52] <Sanus> see*
[05:52] <TXR> reisio, it's just clunky now-a-days
[05:52] <reisio> TXR: that's weird
[05:52] <reisio> I mean KDE does annoy me in various ways, and I don't use it very often
[05:52] <reisio> but it shouldn't be slow on that hardware
[05:52] <StepNjump> Sorry reisio.. meant to say 9 (esentials) not pro
[05:52] <jfcaron> justice__: Is there any other reason why it might do the check?  I would be suspicious (though it's not impossible) that the scheduled fsck-on-reboot coincided with my power-loss-during-repartitioning.  Could it otherwise know about some problem?
[05:52] <reisio> k...
[05:53] <mentoc> How do you specify to cron that you want a job to start every two hours but at a specifc hour?
[05:53] <StepNjump> so it's garbage or silver... we'll see
[05:53] <lowkie> jfcaron, which fstype?
[05:53] <mentoc> 0 10/2 * * * # This would start at 10am and run every two hours?
[05:53] <jfcaron> lowkie: ext3
[05:53] <StepNjump> Would be nice if we had a software with cloud back processing that could be developped
[05:53] <reisio> mentoc: yes
[05:53] <reisio> mentoc: erm, well you might need to do 02, dunno
[05:54] <reisio> but basically yes
[05:54] <justice__> I avoid software in clouds. I have awful internet.
[05:54] <mentoc> reisio, don't I have to do a range like... 0 10-23/2 * * * ??
[05:55] <reisio> mentoc: no
[05:55] <reisio> let's find some official doc
[05:55] <lowkie> jfcaron, I don't' see it documented anywhere…and anytime it happened to me…I did something stupid and caused it
[05:56] <jfcaron> lowkie: So somehow Ubuntu is knowing that it should do a disk check, but we don't know how it knows it.
[05:56] <Epsilonultra> how do i create a channel
[05:56] <zykotick9> Epsilonultra, /join #epsilonschannel
[05:57] <lowkie> jfcaron, I'm sure it has a state check when doing writes…and the state was never cleared…  such as http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[05:57] <lowkie> jfcaron, do you have an error that it's reporting?
[05:57] <Epsilonultra> oh yeahhhh the #sign
[05:58] <jfcaron> lowkie: No, unfortunately if I let it go ahead with the fsck, it runs until 70% on "disk 3" and then hangs for the next 5-8 hours until I get impatient and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, which fills the screen with gibberish before rebooting, starting the process again.
[05:58] <reisio> mentoc: best ask dem ##linux boys
[05:58] <mentoc> thanks reisio
[05:58] <Epsilonultra> ok, how do i create colored text
[05:59] <justice__> A power failure in the middle of a partitioning sounds like juju of the worst kind to me, honestly. :p
[05:59] <Epsilonultra> agreed.
[05:59] <reisio> juju being some kind of slang for not having a UPS
[05:59] <Rotator> The speed of the transmission bt
[05:59] <Epsilonultra> test
[05:59] <Epsilonultra> aww
[05:59] <Rotator> sorry
[05:59] <jfcaron> justice__: It's just a data-storage partition, so nothing functional is broken.  A recovery called "testdisk" properly finds the files, I just can't get ubuntu to accept its version of the partition table.
[06:00] <Epsilonultra> how do i set text color
[06:00] <lowkie> jfcaron, backup and format if you can
[06:00] <justice__> it's witchcraft. you are being cursed for not having a UPS. If it was me i'd try to salvage the data, delete the partition and start again.
[06:01] <Epsilonultra> test
[06:01] <Rotator>  The speed of the transmission bt is too slow, how can I to improve it?
[06:01] <Epsilonultra> ???
[06:01] <zykotick9> Epsilonultra, IRC doesn't support colours
[06:01] <lowkie> install faster seeds
[06:02] <Epsilonultra> transmission aka bittorent?
[06:02] <Rotator> yes
[06:02] <Epsilonultra> ummm
[06:02] <Epsilonultra> your text is red
[06:02] <hangingclowns1> anyone know how to fix a blank screen after update to natty?
[06:02] <zykotick9> Epsilonultra, that's YOUR client that does that
[06:02] <Epsilonultra> cool
[06:03] <Epsilonultra> xchat
[06:05] <hangingclowns1> no one has any idea?
[06:06] <lowkie> sorry…I only run text systems
[06:06] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:06] <zykotick9> hangingclowns1, ^ is for you
[06:06] <Rotator>  The speed of the transmission bt is too slow, how can I to improve it? who can help me? Thank you!
[06:06] <dr_willis> try another bt client
[06:07] <hangingclowns1> okay
[06:07] <Rotator> I have tried
[06:07] <Rotator> it cannot work
[06:07] <Modris> newbie question - what I need to read to know something about start/stop services automatic by startup? I want stop smbd from start from boot.
[06:07] <dr_willis> more details would be helpfull
[06:07] <hangingclowns1> ubottu: and zykotick9: is there a way to change the settings with ssh?
[06:08] <dr_willis> Modris:  edit/rename the /etc/init/smb.conf file i belive
[06:08] <vex_> my ssh server continues to say that it cannot load my rsa public key due to bad permissions and i have chmoded it to 644 so i dont see why there would be a problem how could i get around this?
[06:08] <hangingclowns1> i can login with ssh to that machine and do whatever i want, but jsut can't see anyting on there
[06:08] <dr_willis> hangingclowns1:  edit the grub config file. run update-grub, reboot
[06:09] <hangingclowns1> is that the grub.cfg?
[06:09] <Modris> dr_willis: ok, i can uncomment smbd.conf. but how simple stop this and after some time simple start without editing smb.cnfg
[06:09] <dr_willis> or edit the line from the grub menu as a test
[06:09] <dr_willis> !grub2
[06:09] <hangingclowns1> i can't even get into the grub menu, actually
[06:09] <dr_willis> you do not edit grub.cfg by hand
[06:09] <zykotick9> hangingclowns1, see the section "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)"
[06:09] <badbandit> hello, I have upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 and am having major problems with my graphics and experience, how can I downgrade back to 10.10 w/o full reinstall?
[06:10] <dr_willis> set menu to always show. i hate when it hides
[06:10] <zykotick9> hangingclowns1, holding shift down as you boot should give you grub menu
[06:10] <dr_willis> badbandit:  nope
[06:10] <hangingclowns1> yes, but here's the problem...
[06:10] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[06:10] <hangingclowns1> i can't even get IN to the machine
[06:10] <badbandit> ok but upgrading which completely FCKS your system is acceptable?
[06:10] <hangingclowns1> so i'd just hold down shift after it boots?
[06:10] <dr_willis> hangingclowns1:  basically..
[06:10] <zykotick9> hangingclowns1, after BIOS, before OS
[06:11] <hangingclowns1> that will FOR SURE get me in there?
[06:11] <hangingclowns1> okay
[06:11] <hangingclowns1> i'll try taht
[06:11] <dr_willis> hangingclowns1:  or edit the grub cofig via ssh so grub never hides
[06:11] <badbandit> I love ubuntu but honestly what-the-F
[06:11] <badbandit> first off the native "display" config in settings does not detect my 2nd monitor
[06:11] <badbandit> so I resort to nvidia-settings
[06:11] <dr_willis> i alwsys do clean installs..
[06:11] <zykotick9> badbandit, upgrading is not ubuntu's strong point
[06:12] <badbandit> that detects my 2nd monitor, however when I turn it on (its on now) after a few minutes or by certain actions
[06:12] <hangingclowns1> i'd do clean installs, but had some stuff on there and its'  just a big mess
[06:12] <badbandit> the 2nd monitor freezes up
[06:12] <badbandit> and both are set as primary I can tell (full icons in both screens)
[06:12] <badbandit> but I only set one
[06:12] <badbandit> twinview
[06:13] <badbandit> and this left-navigation bar, why the hell cant i turn that off
[06:13] <zykotick9> badbandit, customization is not ubuntu's strong point (anymore)
[06:14] <lowkie> lol
[06:14] <badbandit> they are fools
[06:14] <badbandit> then
[06:14] <badbandit> it wasnt broken
[06:14] <badbandit> the UI
[06:14] <badbandit> was gerat
[06:14] <FloodBot1> badbandit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <badbandit> great
[06:14] <dr_willis> rants somewhere else please
[06:14] <badbandit> penis
[06:14] <happygolucky> hangingclowns1: just glanced up at this issue you're having but i for one would recommend keeping a backup of initrd and vmlinuz for your boot loader to load.. sometimes those apt-get upgrades will upgrade the kernel and break the installation
[06:14] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead  get over it.
[06:15] <StepNjump> reisio I install dragon naturally speaking under wine. It installed completely but then I don't see it in the installed programs
[06:15] <hangingclowns1> happygolucky: yeah, well it's too late for that, now lol
[06:15] <StepNjump> wine to you reisio
[06:15] <happygolucky> hangingclowns1: granted
[06:15] <hangingclowns1> so I guess I"ll have to edit the file by hand
[06:15] <dr_willis> StepNjump:  theres a wine submenu item. or look in the wine dir.
[06:15] <hangingclowns1> will try to go through grub, first, to set that option
[06:15] <Daghdha> Hi
[06:16] <Daghdha> My NIC is suddenly listed as 'device not managed'
[06:16] <StepNjump> ok dr_willis brb
[06:16] <justice__> gnome2 is dead. Unity is a gamble to see if a replacement can be ironed out before 12.04. That still leaves xfce, lxde, kde (though kubuntu 11.10 got panned, apparently), and there's some others out there if you want.
[06:16] <zykotick9> Daghdha, you have eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces then
[06:16] <Daghdha> Possibly (checkign)
[06:16] <dr_willis> badbandit:  no need to msg.
[06:16] <Daghdha> I have WTH1 and ETH2 in there
[06:17] <badbandit> what the hell was so bad with gnome, at least UI layout perspective?
[06:17] <Daghdha> (ETH0 doesn't exist in my machine
[06:17] <badbandit> dr_willis: I love you
[06:17] <Daghdha> wth=eth
[06:17] <dr_willis> badbandit:  the gnome devs killed gnome2
[06:17] <vex_> how can i fix my ssh server giving me the error of could not load host key
[06:17] <Daghdha> eth2 works fine though
[06:17] <badbandit> is there anyone who has experienced problems with 2 monitors with nvidia cards?
[06:18] <zykotick9> Daghdha, if ETH# is in /etc/network/interfaces then NetworkManager can't manage it, and you get the "not managed" message
[06:18] <VerdeNube> hi, i have a network problem in my ubuntu, i can browse the internet using a browser but i cannot install apps in terminal. i always get this: 504  Connect to ppa.launchpad.net:80 failed: Connection refused
[06:18] <VerdeNube> please help, tnx!
[06:18] <Daghdha> zykes-: But eth2 is in there too, and i can manage that.
[06:18] <dr_willis> VerdeNube:  you got some bad entries in your sources sounds like
[06:19] <zykotick9> Daghdha, ? that doesn't make sense
[06:19] <StepNjump> dr_willis I found the dir however I click the exe and nothing happens
[06:19] <VerdeNube> dr_willis: ok, let me check my sources.list
[06:19] <StepNjump> Should I reboot?
[06:19] <dr_willis> StepNjump:  use the cli to laumch it so you can see errors
[06:19] <Daghdha> i have two nics: eth1 and eth2, they are both in the file you mention. As auto eth1 and auto eth2
[06:20] <dr_willis> VerdeNube:  or in /etc/sources.list.d/
[06:20] <StepNjump> what do you mean dr_willis cli? client??