[12:16] <oomph> synaptic is generally more stable from my experiences
[12:16] <oomph> then again i usually just apt-get everything
[12:17] <abloylas> i've had no apparent problems with the default adept
[12:17] <tk> west-en: did you intsall fuse?
[12:17] <abloylas> some think it stinks for some reason though
[12:18] <west-en> tk: no wich package?
[12:18] <fritsch> west-en: the is an easier way: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[12:18] <west-en> i searched toughed adept and installed what i found
[12:18] <abloylas> apt-get is no good for browsing packages, which i like doing
[12:19] <oomph> that is true
[12:19] <oomph> i sometimes do an apt-cache search
[12:19] <oomph> for keywords on stuff i know of
[12:19] <abloylas> well, i like gui
[12:19] <tk> west-en: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[12:20] <lht> hehe
[12:20] <fritsch> tk: it`s the same as above
[12:20] <fritsch> tk: but the ubuntu forum on is "the original"?
[12:21] <tk> i got a server not found when I tried the above so I did a quick google
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: okay
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 that`s odd
[12:21] <tk> fritsch: ohh I didnt see your link, my bad :P
[12:21] <abloylas> also, is there a nice way to get firefox to be default in all apps in kubuntu? i'm not used to konqueror
[12:21] <fritsch> tk: okay, no problem
[12:22] <fritsch> tk: seems to be very easy
[12:22] <tk> but yah, ubuntuforums.org came up no server a bit ago :/
[12:22] <fritsch> abloylas: yes
[12:22] <west-en> fritch: THANKS!
[12:22] <tk> now its working
[12:22] <fritsch> abloylas: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:22] <abloylas> e.g. klicking in thunderbird and not getting konqueror. how?
[12:23] <waspius> hello...these last days i have been instaling and uninstalling different things and now my desktop is going really slowly..how can i fix it?
[12:23] <abloylas> fritsch: what does that do exactly?
[12:23] <fritsch> abloylas: you can also change it for "only" kde settings
[12:23] <fritsch> abloylas: it changes your "default" www browser system wide
[12:23] <abloylas> fritsch: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[12:24] <fritsch> abloylas: other way: [KDE icon]  -> System Settings -> KDE Components -> Standard ...
[12:24] <Kiongku_> waspius: do a find and see if there is no resiudal left :p
[12:24] <fritsch> abloylas: but this is "kde" specific the other one is system wide
[12:25] <stripey> lo
[12:25] <abloylas> i dont have gnome or anything installed
[12:25] <abloylas> i just use kde
[12:25] <waspius> Kiongku_: how do i do that?
[12:25] <abloylas> what else could "system wide? mean?
[12:25] <fritsch> abloylas: for example if you use "blackbox" window manager
[12:26] <Kiongku_> waspius: dunno.. just look if for the name of programs u installed.. may be there are some folders left
[12:26] <Kiongku_> but really.. how can ur desktop get that slow?
[12:26] <marcus__> if i type apt-get install gnome will that give me the files to have gnome as a window manager?
[12:26] <fritsch> abloylas: and open a "http" link, or you use gaim in kde and click http link
[12:26] <fritsch> abloylas: this programm don`t cope with kde settings, so system wide is the way here
[12:27] <abloylas> I'll try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, just a minute
[12:27] <west-en> does ntfs-3g automatically mount ntfs-drives as ntfs-3g in the boot?
[12:28] <grothesk_> west-en: Only when you edit your fstab that way.
[12:28] <tk> it tells you how at the end of that how-to
[12:28] <west-en> ok how should I edit it then?
[12:31] <stripey> why can't I get Adept to look at teh internet?
[12:32] <stripey> I've enabled a couple of repositories, but it just doesn't seem to look for tehm
[12:32] <ketsugi> I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 by using the Kubuntu repos, and Adept wants to remove kdebase-bin
[12:32] <ketsugi> This seems to be a bad idea to me...
[12:33] <abloylas> fritsch: thanks, the default browser seems to be ok now, thanks a bunch
[12:33] <jorik> heh i remember trying to upgrade kde once ... completely broke everything, it took me hours to get it up and running
[12:33] <jorik> and then when it finally worked i didn't even notice that much of a diffrence
[12:34] <jorik> ever since then i decided to always just stick to the repo's ;-)
[12:34] <stripey> be alright if I could get adept to look at teh repos
[12:35] <stripey> it just seemingly refuses to do so
[12:35] <stripey> any ideas anyone?
[12:35] <abloylas> could there possibly be a way of seing what user or program edited xorg.conf the last time?
[12:36] <abloylas> or ever?
[12:36] <abloylas> a log?
[12:37] <Kiongku_> stripey: what did u enable?.. and did u make sure u had internet connection
[12:38] <Kiongku_> abloylas: whathappens to xorg.conf o0
[12:38] <abloylas> o0?
[12:38] <abloylas> don't understand
[12:38] <waspius> can anyone help??
[12:39] <jujimufu> waspius: what's your problem?
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: what happens to ur xorg.conf..
[12:39] <Kiongku_> jujimufu: his desktop gets slow he says
[12:39] <abloylas> well. something keeps messing it up from time to time
[12:39] <abloylas> no ide what
[12:39] <abloylas> reverting to older version fixes it
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: u must have changed a setting
[12:39] <abloylas> it looses resolution settings
[12:39] <Kiongku_> abloylas: ah?
[12:39] <waspius> jujimufu: during the past days i have been installing and uninstalling programs and desktop managers...and now my desktop is going really slowly
[12:40] <jujimufu> waspius: checked the forums for similar problems?
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: desktop managers O_O... may be here is the answer..
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: u messd up the desktop managers :p
[12:40] <Kiongku_> waspius: may be..
[12:40] <abloylas> Kiongku_: i really don't think i did anything special myself, it's happened twice now
[12:41] <waspius> Kiongku_: if it is that how can i fix it
[12:41] <Kiongku_> abloylas: .. with kde 3.5.4?
[12:41] <Sakirious> hoi
[12:41] <Kiongku_> waspius: by slow what do u mean.. slow response?
[12:42] <abloylas> Kiongku_: i believe so
[12:42] <waspius> Kiongku_: yes...until an application opens it takes more time then usual
[12:42] <abloylas> how do i see?
[12:42] <Sakirious> I have a quick question...I'm new to Kubuntu(I usually use Slackware or SLAMD64) and I seem to have a problem playing my media, namely music...
[12:43] <waspius> Sakirious: what exactly is your problem?
[12:43] <abloylas> Sakirious: try automatix
[12:43] <Kiongku_> waspius: hmm.. its hard to say when u dunt have it in front of u.. the problem is too vague
[12:43] <oomph> anyone here try pclinuxos?
[12:43] <waspius> Kiongku_: mmm..so is there anything i can do?
[12:43] <utab> hey guys
[12:43] <abloylas> brb
[12:44] <utab> I have made fresh install of kubuntu but I have problems with update again
[12:44] <Sakirious> Well, it finds my mp3s and inserts them into the library, and I can add them to the playlist, but when I goto play it acts like the file is not there, i.e. it says its playing it for about half a second with no sound, then moves to the next song and does it all over again.
[12:44] <oomph> its actually not a bad distro
[12:44] <Kiongku_> waspius: i really have no idea from here.. sorry. its impossible to evaluate when u dunt what changes u did to the system. May be another person can advise u more on this later
[12:44] <Kiongku_> *konw
[12:44] <Kiongku_> *know >>"
[12:45] <waspius> Kiongku_: can i use the cd i have and install over it so that maybe the problems are fixed?but withut formating it?
[12:45] <Kiongku_> waspius: personally i dunt think it will solve ur prob.. at least from my opinion
[12:45] <DralaFi> Where's the kubuntu installer log file?
[12:46] <Sakirious> >_>
[12:46] <Kiongku_> waspius: what program does slow down?
[12:46] <utab> is there someone to help me about the updates
[12:46] <Sakirious> utab: whats it doing when you try to update?
[12:46] <waspius> Kiongku_: all :)everything i do..even if  i try to open kcontrol, adept,konversation
[12:46] <Kiongku_> waspius: lol
[12:47] <Sakirious> Oh, I forgot to add about my problem, system sounds work just find
[12:47] <Sakirious> fine*
[12:47] <utab> Sakirious , this is a fresh install but some files could no be fetched if you prefer to have a look at that I may put that in the pastebin
[12:48] <Kiongku_> waspius: http://www.kde-apps.org/poll/index.php?poll=130 interesting thread :P.. seems over ppl complaining to
[12:48] <waspius> Kiongku_: thanx allot
[12:49] <abloylas> bak
[12:52] <utab> Sakirious: are you with me
[12:52] <waspius> Kiongku: ok i am going to format and make a new installation...do u know if there is a way after i have done so to make a cd that i will act as a recovery one so that if something goes wrong i will always beable to turn back without needing to format?
[12:52] <Kiongku> Sakirious: yo u here? need help?
[12:53] <Kiongku> waspius: nope.. myself i'm trying to find a good backup method :))
[12:53] <waspius> :)
[12:53] <Kiongku> waspius: the back up methods i found invovle simply saving them in .tar.bz2 formats (  ' ') but oh well
[12:55] <DralaFi> abattoir, I can't find the install log file, /var/log/ only has standard log files as well as aptitude and dpkg log files. Are those the correct ones?
[12:57] <marcus__> hmmmmmm
[12:59] <DralaFi> If I install kubuntu 5.10, will i be able to upgrade to the next release?
[12:59] <Sakirious> erm yea
[01:00] <Sakirious> sorry my friend was playing halo
[01:00] <tk> would make upgrades pointless otherwise :)
[01:00] <DralaFi> :D
[01:01] <Kiongku> Sakirious: lol
[01:01] <DralaFi> ok, could I tell it to use some packages from the kubuntu 6.06 CD instead of grabbing it from the internet?
[01:01] <Kiongku> DralaFI: did u add ur cd as a repo?
[01:03] <DralaFi> Kiongku, no. I don't have linux on the laptop yet. Was trying to install kubuntu 6.06.1 but it kept crashing. Thinking of trying kubuntu 5.10 then doing the upgrade using partly the 6.06 CD and partly the internet.
[01:03] <Kiongku> DralaFi: crashing??.. did u do a cd check for defects?
[01:04] <DralaFi> Kiongku, yes. CD check was fine.
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: its not supposed to crash.. at least i installed a fresh copy of 6.06.1 and install went fine
[01:04] <tk> anyone know the ascii code for "a" off the top? 65? or something like that?
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: what happen?
[01:04] <DralaFi> I tried the desktop installer as well as the alternative iso
[01:04] <tk> 97
[01:04] <Kiongku> tk: geez how u want me remember something like this :P
[01:04] <tk> nm :)
[01:04] <Kiongku> DralaFi: whats the error?
[01:05] <tk> Kiongku: I was close, 65 is 'A' :P
[01:05] <DralaFi> what I said earlier:  " there it is again.... 50-something percent and the screen goes blank"
[01:05] <Kiongku> tk: haha
[01:05] <Kiongku> DralaFi: hmm 50%.. i wonder what staged it reached..
[01:05] <DralaFi> the screen goes bloang, with a few gray bits as if the mouse was moved (mouse pointer on the screen - gpm?) and I can't change ttys.
[01:06] <Kiongku> tk: i use sysreset with mIRC so.. did not learn anything from mIRC
[01:06] <DralaFi> "Select and install software" screen is at 50-something%....
[01:06] <Kiongku> DralaFi: well u can still try upgrade from 5.10
[01:06] <DralaFi> s/bloang/blank/    :)
[01:06] <DralaFi> yes i'll try that next
[01:06] <Kiongku> isntall 5.10, enable repos from cd of 6.06.1 and try to update.. otherwise sorry i'ms tuck too
[01:07] <DralaFi> any ideas where the installer logfile is kept?
[01:07] <ketsugi> Guys, I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 via the Kubuntu repos, and Adept wants to remove the kdelibs-bin package. Can I confirm that this is a Bad Idea?
[01:07] <Kiongku> DralaFi: no idea.. i'm rather new to linux too..  i just know some basics from the trial error i passed through =)
[01:08] <DralaFi> Kiongku, ok :) thanks
[01:08] <Kiongku> ketsugi: hmm?.. i upgrade to kde via adept and had no prob.. dunno if urs is different
[01:09] <ketsugi> Strangely, if I force Adept to install and upgrade that package, it wants to remove kdebase-dev instead. I guess there must be a conflict somewhere.
[01:09] <Kiongku> ketsugi: for ur info.. i dunt have kdelibs-bin installed and my system is fine
[01:10] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ... well  thats my system i dunno urs :p
[01:10] <ketsugi> Huh.
[01:10] <grothesk_> ketsugi: That package ist not required anymore.
[01:10] <DralaFi> I just try it with acpi=off
[01:11] <ketsugi> Oh? Okay then.
[01:11] <ketsugi> Thanks for the info
[01:11] <grothesk_> Just let the package manager do its work.
[01:11] <Kiongku> DralaFi: ok
[01:12] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ya.. normally the package manager should know whats its doing.. its not here to destroy ur system lol
[01:12] <ketsugi> hehe I hope not!
[01:12] <ketsugi> But doesn't hurt to be sure, since it looked like an important package
[01:14] <Kiongku> ketsugi: ... unless i'm the one compiling. i dunt care what package manager do.. well till now its runnign fine =))
[01:14] <Sakirious> Alright, I'm sorry about before
[01:14] <DralaFi> i've switched to the other tty now so i can see debug messages and OOPSes
[01:15] <Kiongku> Sakirious: ???
[01:15] <Kiongku> DralaFi: no idea what ur talking.. but i'm happy if its good again for ya :)
[01:15] <Sakirious> But, like I said, it plays system sounds, but my multimedia programs won't play them
[01:16] <Sakirious> So it isn't a hardware installation error
[01:17] <Kiongku> Sakirious: one question.. did u install libxine_extracodecs?
[01:21] <ketsugi> Is it possible to set what style is used for apps that are run as root?
[01:23] <Kiongku> ketsugi: hmm?.. in systemn settings?.. dunno
[01:23] <myzer> Afternoon
[01:29] <Sakirious> Kiongku, let me check that real quick
[01:30] <Sakirious> Yes they were installed
[01:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[01:30] <Kiongku> Sakirious: u were not supposed to have probs
[01:33] <DralaFi> doh
[01:33] <DralaFi> saw a bit of my error
[01:33] <tk> heh
[01:33] <DralaFi> something like "obsolete TITLE blah server blah"
[01:33] <DralaFi> :(
[01:33] <abattoir> DralaFi: sorry, was away...
[01:33] <DralaFi> now the screen is blank again :(
[01:34] <DralaFi> x server maybe, not sure. it went by very fast
[01:34] <abattoir> you are installing breezy?
[01:34] <DralaFi> dapper
[01:34] <DralaFi> is there a ssh server running from the installer? i could try logging on and seeing if its still running.
[01:35] <abattoir> DralaFi: i dont see where X comes into the picture...
[01:35] <DralaFi> it's responding to pings, so at least the kernel is running
[01:35] <DralaFi> abattoir, same here
[01:35] <abattoir> DralaFi: the text installer doesnt use X... and inst it the one which stops
[01:35] <abattoir> *isn't
[01:35] <abattoir> ?
[01:36] <abattoir> DralaFi: any idea which package was being installed?
[01:36] <DralaFi> yes, running the text installer, and yes it crashes/stops working :(
[01:36] <DralaFi> no. i think it finished installing. It went past at least 59%
[01:37] <DralaFi> it's just sittng there. the HDD/cd light is periodically flashing. can't switch ttys. no ssh running. :(
[01:37] <Sakirious> I don't believe you are ever supposed to have errors
[01:37] <Sakirious> they just happen xD
[01:38] <DralaFi> yah :(
[01:39] <DralaFi> any way to login to it over network? it's not running telnet nor sshd
[01:39] <abattoir> DralaFi: it finished installing? was the bootloader installed?
[01:39] <marcus__> what is the command to run basiisk?
[01:39] <DralaFi> abattoir, not sure if it finished installing. It doesn't install the bootloader yet, afaik.
[01:40] <abattoir> DralaFi: it'd definitely be useful to see which package was being installed/setup or what the installer actually was doing... before the freeze
[01:41] <DralaFi> but even if it was an X11 issue, it shouldnt be since I can run the desktop live Cd totally fine...
[01:41] <DralaFi> abattoir, the only thing i can think of is getting syslogd to send messages to this host and then see... but not sure how to do that.
[01:41] <boss> hy
[01:41] <abattoir> DralaFi: and the breezy text installer has worked fine for you?
[01:41] <boss> all
[01:42] <abattoir> DralaFi: did you check for error messages in /var/log/installer/syslog?
[01:42] <DralaFi> abattoir, breezy worked fine on this box (desktop). I'm trying to install dapper on a laptop.
[01:42] <DralaFi> abattoir, i tail'ed that file. was watching it, and that's where i saw that message, but it went fast....
[01:43] <Sakirious> Maybe the mp3 decoder is having error
[01:43] <Sakirious> ?
[01:43] <Sakirious> on my problem
[01:43] <Sakirious> >_>
[01:43] <abattoir> DralaFi: it might still be in the target partition
[01:43] <DralaFi> i checked before...
[01:43] <DralaFi> DralaFi abattoir, I can't find the install log file, /var/log/ only has standard log files as well as aptitude and dpkg log files. Are those the correct ones?
[01:44] <abattoir> DralaFi: you dont see the install folder?
[01:44] <Pensacola> does anyone here use Firefox?
[01:44] <abattoir> 'install'
[01:44] <boss> yes me
[01:44] <Sakirious> Yesh! I got XMMS to play, lets see about amarrok
[01:44] <Sakirious> I use FireFox
[01:44] <Pensacola> can you send me a screenshot of the menus?
[01:44] <Pensacola> because I can't seem to change the menu style :s
[01:44] <Sakirious> :(
[01:45] <Sakirious> amaroK isn't wanting to be friendly
[01:45] <abattoir> Sakirious: what's the issue?
[01:45] <Sakirious> .mp3s will not play
[01:45] <Sakirious> Well, now they'll play, just not in amaroK
[01:45] <abattoir> Sakirious: do you have 'libxine-extracodecs' installed?
[01:45] <jorik> Sakirious: try the xine engine
[01:46] <DralaFi> abattoir, no there's no /var/log/installer/
[01:46] <Sakirious> Yeah, xine is installed already
[01:46] <DralaFi> no install/
[01:46] <Sakirious> Does xmms use the xine engine?
[01:46] <abattoir> DralaFi: so it was removed after the installation process?(because i thought you were 'tail'ing it)
[01:47] <abattoir> Sakirious: 'libxine-extracodecs'
[01:47] <abattoir> Sakirious: and no, xmms doesnt use an 'engine' system, and its backend is not xine
[01:47] <DralaFi> abattoir, i was tailing the copy that's in the ramdisk, not the installed copy.
[01:47] <DralaFi> oh
[01:47] <DralaFi> i was tailing /var/log/messages from the ramdisk
[01:48] <abattoir> !mp3 > Sakirious
[01:48] <abattoir> Sakirious: those links should be useful
[01:49] <Sakirious> Thanks
[01:50] <abattoir> DralaFi: ok...
[01:50] <DralaFi> i'm so confused
[01:51] <DralaFi> i'm about to try breezy
[01:52] <DralaFi> never had this much trouble installing slackware :/
[01:53] <utab_> I have made a backup of all the system but is that possible now to get only the home directory
[01:54] <Sakirious> yesh!
[01:54] <Sakirious> fixed it
[01:54] <vursitis> would anyone in here know of a remote monitering program besides ssh?
[01:55] <DralaFi> ssh is a monitoring application??
[01:55] <vursitis> well if altered it can be
[01:55] <kevin> hello, anyone here use xgl+compiz+cgwd under kubuntu?
[01:55] <stray_77> kaboodle
[01:55] <Sakirious> I thank you abattoir, and Kio
[01:55] <vursitis> and its not intuitive, you can just see everything thats going on in the konsole
[01:55] <utab_> After a full backup is that possible to retrieve only the home
[01:56] <stray_77> vursitis, check out http://www.kaboodle.org/
[01:56] <vursitis> ok
[01:57] <utab_> this retrievel will be done from backup.tar.gz
[01:58] <vursitis> thats intresting but not nessicarily what i was looking for
[01:59] <DralaFi> utab_, tar might have some option to recover only some files
[01:59] <vursitis> anything else, actualy let me specify, i want compleate controll over a remote computer
[01:59] <stray_77> thats what vnc is for
[01:59] <DralaFi> might work if you tell it to recover home/your_user_name/  and it might recover a recursive dir of your home/
[01:59] <utab_> DralaFi, thx I will check that
[02:00] <kevin> hello, anyone here use xgl+compiz+cgwd under kubuntu?  If you can't work the command line you can use vnc (which is basically a remote X session)
[02:01] <vursitis> im running a laptop but i will be needing to access my desktop at home... and there might be a few people i need to screw over from time to time.... but thats not the point
[02:01] <waspius> anyone know a program to mount iso images without needing to burn them on a cd?
[02:01] <domin> siemanko, sluchajcie szukam kogos kto sie bawil kompilka jadra na drake'u
[02:01] <DralaFi> waspius, mount
[02:01] <vursitis> well, it gives you remote access from your internal network, i need somthing where i can access my computer from india if needed
[02:02] <jorik> euhm
[02:02] <jorik> dude, seriously, read the manual
[02:02] <tsrwedge> when using the AMD64 boot DVD (on an AMD64 proc), the DVD goes through the startup checklist, switches to a terminal-type screen breifly, then display the Kubuntu logo on the screen with a dark blue bar underneath and stalls
[02:02] <DralaFi> vnc + ssh :)
[02:02] <vursitis> vnc hm...
[02:03] <tsrwedge> using the troubleshooting options in the DVD's help don't help; any ideas?
[02:03] <domin> hey, lesen :) I looking 4 someone who can tell me how can I compile  my drake core. I red that it is a 'menuconfig' command but my terminal console don't know that command
[02:03] <vursitis> vnc allowes cross platform access?
[02:04] <stray_77> yes
[02:04] <stray_77> im using it right now
[02:04] <jujimufu> domin: what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:04] <domin> i trying to compile my drake
[02:04] <jorik> domin: menuconfig is a target in a Makefile (usually in /usr/src/linux) you need to type make menuconfig (while in the dir of the kernel sources)
[02:05] <domin> hmm ok, but the console don't know make command
[02:05] <domin> :)
[02:05] <domin> that's the problem
[02:05] <domin> maybe i should to install breezy badger distr.
[02:06] <domin> maybe this 6.06 is not completed
[02:06] <jorik> domin: domin: no you just need to install make ... but i don't think it's a good idea messing with your kernel if you don't know what you're doing (no offens)
[02:06] <Phreakys> hello
[02:06] <ketsugi> Hm, Kopete doesn't seem to like playing WAV files for notifications
[02:06] <ketsugi> I hit the Play preview button but I don't hear anything :/
[02:08] <domin> you right
[02:08] <domin> but dont' you think that the first think you should do after install is to compile the core ?
[02:09] <DralaFi> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html   <--- is there a tar of this or should I just wget it?
[02:10] <stray_77> isnt it on the cd?
[02:10] <Phreakys> im trying to get compiz/xgl working, but i cant find a good tutorial that works with ati/kubuntu kde
[02:11] <domin> i'll try to download make via apt-get
[02:11] <Phreakys> they are all quite vague
[02:11] <GenghisKhan> domin: nowadays it isn't necessary. just install the precompiled kernel which suits your machine best
[02:11] <archangel_> how can I play .ram files?
[02:11] <vursitis> domin: I don't think its a good idea to be in an online chat program if you don't know how to spell (no offence)
[02:11] <archangel_> what do I need?
[02:11] <DralaFi> stray_77, no idea
[02:11] <vursitis> hehe
[02:11] <domin> i learn :)
[02:12] <vursitis> just messing around
[02:13] <vursitis> woops, that was to jorik...
[02:13] <vursitis> crap
[02:13] <vursitis> i know i set myself up for somthing there
[02:13] <tsrwedge> having issues booting from DVD
[02:14] <tsrwedge> help items on the DVD don't solve the issue
[02:15] <tsrwedge> is there a page that may have more complete help than on the boot menu of the CD?
[02:16] <vursitis> clear
[02:16] <Phreakys> kubuntu wont boot into kde anymore. it returns to the blue kubuntu screen after initiating and stays there
[02:16] <Phreakys> wtf is wrong
[02:17] <vursitis> woops... that was supposed to be in the terminal
[02:17] <vursitis> try reinstalling kde
[02:17] <vursitis> simplest way to do that
[02:18] <Phreakys> hm
[02:18] <tsrwedge> vursitis, any ideas how to solve that problem when booting straight from the CD?
[02:18] <DralaFi> Phreakys, try moving your ~/.kde/ to some other place, kde will recreate a new ~/.kde/
[02:18] <vursitis> ummm.... make a new CD?
[02:19] <Phreakys> i think compiz/xgl is screwing the boot
[02:19] <archdrone> i want to format my dvd-ram disc but k3b says its not dvd-rw, strange...how can i force the dvd ram disc to work correctly?
[02:19] <Phreakys> followed a dozen tutors to fix it. all in a different way i guess
[02:19] <tsrwedge> eh, I checked the integrity of the CD already
[02:20] <archdrone> *it is dvd-rw
[02:20] <vursitis> ok is it ram or rw because those are two compleatly diffrent formats
[02:20] <vursitis> one of which never took off
[02:21] <archdrone> vursitis: its ram, k3b detects it as ram but complies about its not rw
[02:22] <waspius> can someone guide me through the mount iso process as it does not work mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[02:22] <vursitis> its because its not... ram is a compleatly diffrent format usualy used in those dvd video cameras, alot of computers are not compatable with that format
[02:22] <archdrone> then i'd like to mount it for r/w, like floppy
[02:23] <vursitis> well again like i said, if your computer is not compatible with it, it probaly will not be able to even mount it
[02:23] <vursitis> kinda like trying to mount an external media device in linux that is ntfs...
[02:24] <vursitis> just not compatible
[02:24] <vursitis> that all depends on your cd drive though
[02:25] <DralaFi> yay i got breezy installed!
[02:25] <DralaFi> now, how does one upgrade to newer verison? I can't find much in the docs about it/.
[02:26] <vursitis> why would you want to roll back your kernal?
[02:26] <dako> Can someone help me with missing text for my folders
[02:26] <vursitis> should be able to upgrade through synaptics
[02:28] <DralaFi_laptop> yay
[02:28] <DralaFi> :)
[02:28] <vursitis> did it work?
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> So do I just go to Adept -> Full Upgrade?
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> yeah, breezy did
[02:29] <vursitis> yeah if your using adept just hit full upgrade, it should auto upgrade the kernal
[02:29] <DralaFi_laptop> How do I add my dapper CD as a repository?
[02:30] <vursitis> what do you need to pull off of it?
[02:30] <DralaFi_laptop> everything :)
[02:30] <vursitis> lol, again adept should auto upgrade everything
[02:30] <DralaFi_laptop> not everyone has uncapped internet access :/
[02:31] <vursitis> ah... ummmm, hmmmm
[02:31] <vursitis> well im assuming the dapper CD is a live one correct?
[02:31] <DralaFi> yes
[02:31] <vursitis> ok there should be an option when you boot from it to upgrade your system
[02:32] <archangel_> there is a live cd and a install cd only
[02:32] <DralaFi> yes but the installers on both of those crash...
[02:32] <vursitis> yeah... thats a problem
[02:33] <archangel_> did you check your hardware compatibility?
[02:33] <vursitis> archangel would you know how to add your CD as a repository in adept? because i dont think that can be done, but if so prove me wrong
[02:34] <DralaFi> archangel_, I can boot the livecd fine. if there was an incompatibility, surely I'd not be able to boot the livecd in the first place.
[02:34] <archangel_> if you could, I think you would have to 'lift the hood' to make it work
[02:35] <DralaFi> there's a respos called   cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ Release i386 (20051012)] /
[02:35] <archangel_> DralaFi: well, yes and no, it could depend on how long you were running the session
[02:36] <imbrandon> use "sudo apt-cdrom"
[02:36] <imbrandon> easy ;)
[02:38] <archangel_> I was running a linux distro fine and dandy, but after about 15 to 30 minutes later was when I started having problems
[02:38] <DralaFi> imbrandon, thank you :) I have the cd in the repos now
[02:38] <imbrandon> DralaFi your welcome
[02:38] <DralaFi> archangel_, i was running ubuntu and kubunto live cd for a lot longer than that
[02:39] <vursitis_> im back my apologies
[02:39] <archangel_> DralaFi: you got me dude
[02:40] <DralaFi> only 214 packages to upgrade...
[02:41] <vursitis_> DralaFi: why exactly can you not download the packages from adept?
[02:41] <DralaFi> well i think i am...
[02:41] <DralaFi> but wont it be hundreds of megabytes?
[02:41] <DralaFi> like over 1Gb or something?
[02:41] <vursitis_> what kind of connection do you have?
[02:42] <vursitis_> and no not quite that much
[02:42] <DralaFi> adsl
[02:42] <vursitis_> you should be fine
[02:42] <DralaFi> we have a limit and i had to get about 1.5gb yesterday to get kubuntu...
[02:42] <vursitis_> its really not that much to download you would be suprised
[02:43] <vursitis_> you have a limit on how much you can download?
[02:43] <DralaFi> it's only getting stuff from the internet so far... is it going to use the cdrom at all??
[02:43] <DralaFi> yes, a limit :(
[02:43] <vursitis_> where are you located?
[02:43] <vursitis_> just for future refrence so i never make the mistake of going there
[02:43] <vursitis_> no offence... but i couldnt live that way
[02:43] <DralaFi> lol
[02:44] <DralaFi> the UK... also known as the land where Nineteen Eighty Four is set
[02:44] <vursitis_> ah, and they limit your download ammount to?
[02:44] <DralaFi> sum(upload + download) per month
[02:45] <vursitis_> which is equal to?
[02:45] <DralaFi> 15Gb i think
[02:45] <vursitis_> jesus christ...
[02:45] <vursitis_> i think i would break that limit.... every hour
[02:45] <DralaFi> :D
[02:45] <DralaFi> yeah
[02:45] <archangel_> wow
[02:45] <vursitis_> i have a 13mb connection
[02:46] <DralaFi> well there are other isp's that will have a better limit or no limit at all.. but my parents want to stay with this provider so not much I can do about it really.
[02:46] <archangel_> do yo have cable connection there?
[02:46] <vursitis_> ah, ok well no the updates do not take up gigabytes of information
[02:47] <DralaFi> so far it's grabbing from security.ubuntu.com :)
[02:47] <DralaFi> i think there is some cable service, archangel_
[02:47] <archangel_> ahh
[02:48] <archangel_> life would end with no cable modem
[02:48] <DralaFi> cable isn't that great
[02:48] <vursitis_> my friend when you move out of your parents house come to the states... we have no download limits
[02:48] <vursitis_> we also have no leaders with common sence... but thats not the point
[02:48] <DralaFi> lol
[02:49] <archangel_> I own a duplex, so when you come to the states, I have a place for you!       :o)
[02:49] <vursitis_> cable my friend cable lets focus on the important issues
[02:50] <DralaFi> when I was at uni, we had 10mbit ethernet in our rooms - that felt great :)
[02:50] <waspius> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21203
[02:51] <waspius> i am trying to mount an iso image but i cannot
[02:51] <vursitis_> wether or not our leaders can tie their own shoes, and wether or not we can come out of national debt is not the point, the issue is download limits, and their are none here, so come to the states
[02:52] <vursitis_> but untill then like i said, the downloads shouldn't take up much space... and if they do... can you try using a proxy or somthing?
[02:52] <vursitis_> or have they thought past that?
[02:53] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius@Killer313:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft\ III\ and\ The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso.iso /mnt/iso-1
[02:53] <g-henna> hi everyone
[02:53] <g-henna> two questions: 1. how do i get the "checking all disks" out of the boot process?
[02:53] <vursitis_> waite a minute...
[02:54] <vursitis_> do you guys have internet cafe's there?
[02:54] <g-henna> 2. why can i press ctrl+C during boot and get into a root shell??
[02:54] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: the same thing comes out
[02:54] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: well i'm not too bothered, but since I have the Cd here and it's in the repos, I might as well save on some bandwidth limit and install some stuff from the CD
[02:54] <vursitis_> again like i said... do you have internet cafe's in the UK
[02:55] <vursitis_> cause you are on a laptop... i mean it is possible to leach off someone elses bandwith...
[02:55] <vursitis_> if it has built in wireless
[02:55] <archangel_> good thinking
[02:55] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius: make sure the loopback block device driver is loaded
[02:56] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: what does that mena
[02:56] <waspius> mean
[02:56] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: yeah you have internet cafes. and you can get access to unprotected AP i think.
[02:56] <vursitis_> then use their bandwith...
[02:57] <DralaFi_laptop> waspius: you can only use -o loop if you have the driver loaded. try sudo modprobe loop
[02:57] <DralaFi_laptop> vursitis_: I live in a village..... :D
[02:57] <DralaFi> no internet cafes nearby
[02:57] <vursitis_> nevermind
[02:58] <DralaFi> :)
[02:58] <waspius> DralaFi_laptop: ok done that..but still will not mount
[02:58] <vursitis_> and again sorry, i have no idea how to add your CD as a repository
[02:58] <DralaFi> well it's a laptop so I can roam around looking for some :)
[02:58] <vursitis_> again that is a great option and you wont have any problems with bandwith limit
[02:58] <g-henna> apt-cdrom add
[02:58] <DralaFi> vursitis_, i added it. just not sure it will use it - it downloaded some stuff already from the internet...
[02:58] <DralaFi> g-henna, I added it, but thanks again :)
[02:59] <vursitis_> btw, do they just charge you more if you download/upload more than 15 gigs, or do they just shut off your internet for the rest of the month?
[02:59] <phreakys> hi
[02:59] <g-henna> DralaFi: if you remove all internet entries from sources.list or added the cdrom after the last apt-get update, it will use the cdrom
[02:59] <phreakys> i just tried to install newest fglrx drivers, but now it's all mesa instead of ati :S
[02:59] <DralaFi> oh bummer...
[02:59] <phreakys> anyone has a disaster tutorial
[02:59] <phreakys> ?
[02:59] <DralaFi> it's been updating from the breezy repository..
[03:00] <vursitis_> oooo, thats kind of a kick in the balls
[03:00] <DralaFi> vursitis_, charge you more afaik
[03:00] <vursitis_> ah
[03:00] <DralaFi> yeah :/
[03:00] <DralaFi> g-henna, thanks. I'll do that. didn't think to do that before :/
[03:00] <g-henna> remove ftp entries, apt-get update and then apt-get install sth
[03:01] <DralaFi> sth?
[03:02] <DralaFi> its installing stuff now
[03:02] <DralaFi> i can smell chocolate :O
[03:02] <DralaFi> brb
[03:02] <nova> sono appena passato a kubuntu da windows , ma ho dei problemi a configurare la posta con alice qualcuno puo' aiutarmi
[03:03] <vursitis_> english
[03:03] <nova> no
[03:03] <vursitis_> kubuntu-sp
[03:04] <nova> no english yes italy
[03:04] <stray_77> join #kubuntu-sp
[03:04] <vursitis_> italian
[03:05] <isenburk> #kubuntu-sp doesnt exist
[03:05] <g-henna> now can someone tell me how to get rid of kubuntu checking my vfat partition at every boot?
[03:05] <vursitis_> i honestly dont know the channel for italian, go to www.kubuntu.org it will tell you
[03:06] <vursitis_> actualy yes i can
[03:06] <vursitis_> hold on one second, its in my handbook here
[03:07] <stray_77> sorry, try #kubuntu-es
[03:07] <stray_77> espaniol
[03:07] <stray_77> i think
[03:07] <vursitis_> he speaks italian
[03:07] <DralaFi> lol
[03:07] <DralaFi> italiano
[03:08] <vursitis_> and ghenna, im looking for it here, there is a way to keep it from checking that partition, bear with me for a second
[03:08] <DralaFi> g-henna, fsck trying to check vfat filesystem?
[03:08] <DralaFi> edit /etc/fstab
[03:08] <stray_77> #kubuntu-it for italian
[03:08] <g-henna> DralaFi: ah, ok :-)
[03:08] <vursitis_> well there is actualy an easier way to do it
[03:08] <DralaFi> If the sixth field
[03:08] <DralaFi>        is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked.
[03:09] <g-henna> DralaFi: ok, thx
[03:11] <DralaFi> hmm
[03:11] <DralaFi> any way to find out what kubuntu release i have now?
[03:11] <nova> c' qualcuno che parla italiano che puo' aiutarmi a configurare la posta
[03:11] <Hobbsee> DralaFi: cat /etc/issue
[03:11] <Hobbsee> !it
[03:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:11] <DralaFi> like /etc/slackware-repease
[03:11] <Hobbsee> DralaFi: or lsb_release -a iirc
[03:13] <DralaFi> still 5.10 :9
[03:13] <DralaFi> how can i do a totall upgrade from the Cd using apt-get?
[03:14] <vursitis_> sudo apt-get (filepath) possibly?
[03:15] <vursitis_> nope nevermind, disregard that
[03:15] <vursitis_> hm... maybe like jenna said, disable all of your repositories and it will get it from your cd
[03:15] <vursitis_> woops
[03:15] <vursitis_> ghenna
[03:16] <vursitis_> why the hell did i read it like that
[03:16] <Ryoga85[away] > Ich bin ab jetzt [abwesend]  | Grund: [bin mal weg.]  | [20. August 2006, 15:16:20]
[03:17] <vursitis_> nicht ein duesch
[03:17] <DralaFi_laptop> das ist nicht deutsch channel
[03:17] <vursitis_> nein
[03:17] <DralaFi_laptop> auf english
[03:18] <vursitis_> i dont think thats how you say channel in german though
[03:18] <DralaFi_laptop> apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt seem to do anything :(
[03:18] <vursitis_> and it would be das ist nicht eina deutch (whatever the word for channel is)
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> eina? never heard of that one
[03:19] <stray_77> dralafi, mount the cd and enable it in the repositories
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> eine maybe
[03:19] <DralaFi_laptop> stray_77: i have
[03:19] <vursitis_> yeah, however you spell that, i know i slaughtered it
[03:19] <vursitis_> i can speak it, but spelling.... HA!
[03:19] <stray_77> sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <stray_77> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:20] <grisha> hi all
[03:20] <stray_77> then try dist-upgrade
[03:20] <DralaFi_laptop> i have
[03:21] <g-henna> ok, now for my other problem: why is it possible to simply press ctrl+c during boot and get a root console?
[03:21] <g-henna> i want to disable that
[03:21] <DralaFi_laptop> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HZ5baR97.html
[03:21] <waspius> i am using mountiso application but i cannot mount iso files..i get an error that says ERROR: "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk2] .iso" has data error! File might be of wrong type or corrupted.and when i check the iso type i get the message Image file "Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk2] .iso" is of type "Unknown format"
[03:22] <g-henna> waspius: have you tried mount -o loop ?
[03:22] <fritsch> waspius: try sudo mount -o loop "datei.iso" /media/LALA
[03:22] <g-henna> hi, fritsch :-)
[03:22] <waspius> g-henna: yes but i have not managed to use it
[03:22] <fritsch> g-henna: moin!
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: got your modem gone?
[03:23] <g-henna> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: mine went going, without doing anything
[03:23] <g-henna> fritsch: not so far, just sound was gone...
[03:23] <grisha> Hi I've updated my kernel to 2.6.15-26-686 because of the HT support, but since than I've some problems with supercaramba. Anyone else has the same problem?
[03:23] <grisha> grisha@none-8:~$ khotkeys
[03:23] <grisha> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: sound is gone, if you load intel8x0m?
[03:23] <waspius> g-henna: i have tried but i have not succeded
[03:23] <g-henna> grisha: what problem? the "some" problem? :-)
[03:23] <g-henna> waspius: error msg?
[03:23] <fritsch> g-henna: sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon
[03:24] <grisha> sry, for the last one. I'm not familiar "with Konversation"
[03:24] <g-henna> fritsch: ok, wait for some minute, have to eat sth
[03:24] <grisha> it exits some time.
[03:24] <vursitis_> its what your using
[03:24] <fritsch> g-henna: i have to cook ;-) just got coffee today
[03:26] <waspius> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <grisha> can anyone help me with khotkeys? "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."
[03:27] <waspius> g-henna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21204
[03:28] <grisha> or any idea how to make a snapshot while the K menu is open. PrintScreen just doesn't work as long as the menu is opened
[03:28] <g-henna_afk> waspius: you should escape [, ]  and space more carefully
[03:29] <waspius> g-henna_afk: i dont know what to do
[03:30] <g-henna_afk> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso.iso" /mnt/iso-1
[03:30] <waspius> g-henna_afk: so such file or directory
[03:31] <g-henna_afk> then remove the second .iso
[03:32] <grothesk_> grisha: Use a delay and open kmenu.
[03:32] <waspius> g-henna_afk: the same problem
[03:32] <dec_> hello, I am trying to install a usb optical mouse and it will not work any ideas as to how to do it
[03:32] <g-henna_afk> waspius: then, what the heck, *is* the filename of your iso? either, you escape every occurence of " " or "[" or "] " with a \ or you just include the whole filename in "..."
[03:34] <dec_> hello, I am trying to install a usb optical mouse and it will not work any ideas as to how to do it
[03:34] <intelikey> unplug & replug it ?
[03:35] <waspius> g-henna_afk: same problem
[03:35] <dec_> I tried that and when i looked at the properties it was generic
[03:36] <grisha_> waspius: what's the problem?
[03:36] <intelikey> i can't even get k3b to work.   E. can't talk to klauncher    ++ E. no cd writer detected.
[03:38] <grisha_> intelikey: Have u installed k3b via apt-get?
[03:38] <intelikey> i have
[03:39] <waspius> grisha: i am trying to mount an iso and i cannot
[03:40] <intelikey> k3b doesn't seem to be configurable either
[03:40] <grisha_> inteliky: sudo apt-get install k3b libk3b2-mp3 It should work. What kind of writer do u have?
[03:40] <intelikey> scsi
[03:41] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[03:41] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /xxx/xxx/something.iso /mnt/iso
[03:41] <intelikey> cdw works but is perset to 650 m  cd size  kinda wastes 50 m on every disk.
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: run k3bsetup ?
[03:43] <intelikey> ttyp0 [root@~]  k3bsetup
[03:43] <intelikey> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:43] <intelikey> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:43] <intelikey> kcmshell: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[03:43] <grisha_> intelikey: u should have access permission of the device files: sudo chmod a+rw /dev/sg*
[03:43] <intelikey> grish_ root has permission.
[03:44] <jorik> ive got a problem in Kmix, only the PCM slider changes the volume, the master slider [the one that pops up when you left click the kmix icon in the panel]  doesnt change anything. How can i get it to work ?
[03:44] <grisha_> intelikey : I see. You still can try other burner apps.
[03:44] <tk> jorik: you on a laptop?
[03:45] <intelikey> that doesn't make this one work   :)
[03:45] <grisha_> jorik: put the PCM slider as default slider
[03:45] <intelikey> what would be the reason for the error "can not talk to klauncher" ?
[03:45] <grisha_> and than u change the PCM volume at tray
[03:45] <jorik> grisha thx !
[03:46] <intelikey> that's where the problem is....
[03:46] <grisha_> right click on icon (at tray) selecting master channel
[03:46] <grisha_> jorik nm
[03:48] <grisha_> jorik: sry, nm is the hungarian short version of "you are welcome".
[03:48] <jorik> hehe
[03:48] <longbean> intelikey: wait. you're trying to run k3bsetup as root?
[03:48] <jorik> what's it stand for ?
[03:49] <intelikey> longbean yes,  loged in as root for that session.
[03:50] <g-henna> waspius: solved?
[03:50] <waspius> grisha_: this is the exact location of the file..how should i write it ?file:///home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso
[03:50] <longbean> intelikey: logged into X as root?
[03:50] <g-henna> waspius: where do you want to mount it?
[03:50] <grisha_> jorik nm = nincs mit. It means something like "it was nothing" or "not at all" or "you're welcome"
[03:50] <intelikey> longbean is there some wierd setting that wont allow k3b to be ran as root ?
[03:51] <intelikey> longbean yes logged into xorg sfce4 as root.
[03:51] <intelikey> xfce4
[03:51] <waspius> g-henna: i dont mind..i just want it to work
[03:51] <jorik> cool ;)
[03:51] <longbean> intelikey: maybe. i've seen that "connection refused" error before
[03:51] <grisha_> waspius: /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso
[03:52] <g-henna> waspius: you have to have a directory where to mount; if that doesn't exist, you cannot. so create a directory and tell us
[03:52] <grisha_> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso /mnt/iso
[03:52] <longbean> intelikey: but only when i log in as a regular user, then su into root in a terminal and try to run a command from there
[03:52] <grisha_> waspius: but:  sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[03:52] <grisha_> first
[03:52] <longbean> intelikey: if you logged in as root at the GUI Login screen, i don't know
[03:52] <intelikey> longbean hmmm ;/
[03:53] <intelikey> i'll make a user account and try it.  but i have my doubts about that helping anything.
[03:54] <waspius> grisha_: it does not work
[03:54] <g-henna> waspius: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop "/home/waspius/Desktop/kubuntu-debian-linux/Warcraft III and The Frozen Throne/Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne [Disk 1] .iso" /mnt/iso
[03:54] <ketsugi> Does Konqueror not play well with Gmail?
[03:55] <g-henna> hey waspius, you make me sick. who of us, do you think can handle "it does not work"?? tell us the error message, or we simply cannot do anything!
[03:55] <grisha_> intelikey: do u have gnome too? I had similar issues under fedora 4 with konqueror can not talk to klauncher. If i logged out, logged in to Gnome, logged out and back to KDE the error was solved.
[03:55] <waspius> g-henna: worked..thanx allot!!!!
[03:55] <waspius> g-henna: sorry
[03:55] <intelikey> grisha_ no gnome no kde  only xfce4
[03:56] <alex_> how to send a file in kopete icq???
[03:56] <grisha_> inteliky: oh, I C
[03:56] <intelikey> but k3b is ked specific so i'm on the kde channel grisha_   besides there's nothing generally happening in #xubuntu
[03:57] <grisha_> :)
[03:57] <alex_> how to send a file in kopete icq???
[03:58] <grisha_> alex: right click on the recipient than the lowest menu (vith the name of his/her) and send file
[03:58] <alex_> can sombody help me please?
[03:58] <grisha_> vith=with
[03:59] <tk> alex, I think someone already did....
[03:59] <intelikey> grisha_ alex_  does  /dcc send nickname filename    not work ?
[03:59] <grisha_> alex or click on the recipient than edit menu and send file
[04:00] <grisha_> intelikey he would like to send a file with Kopete and an ICQ acc
[04:00] <intelikey> grisha_ yes  does that command not work there ?
[04:01] <alex_> its without color. i can't click on it
[04:01] <grisha_> intelikey it has no command line.
[04:01] <grisha_> as far as i know
[04:02] <intelikey> so you can't type in messages.  hmmm i have no idea about such things.
[04:02] <grisha_> anyone has KDE newer than 3.5.2?
[04:02] <g-henna> here
[04:03] <grisha_> g-henna: would you try khotkeys if I ask you?
[04:03] <grisha_> inn a terminal
[04:03] <g-henna> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[04:04] <grisha_> thx
[04:04] <grisha_> than, there is no reason at the moment to update from 3.5.2
[04:04] <grisha_> for me
[04:05] <intelikey> well that error about not being able to talk to klauncher was because of root.  (stupidest damn thing i have ever heard of)   but k3b still can't see any devices  even when i manually select /dev/scd0  it says can't find any device at /dev/scd0        the peace of krap.
[04:05] <cobrat> hello
[04:06] <grisha_> intelikey: try nerolinux. Maybe u get lucky
[04:06] <intelikey> lol
[04:06] <tk> is this like the kippy kan do show where everything klosely resembling a Kay sound begins with a K? :P
[04:06] <tk> bad movie reference :P
[04:07] <intelikey> grisha_ i actually prefer xcdroast  but it doesn't do well at mastering cda
[04:07] <Wendelin> How do I tell find to exclude a certain directory?
[04:07] <cobrat> has anyone here successfully ran boinc projects on a powerpc based system?
[04:07] <intelikey> grisha_ nero not in repos ?
[04:08] <grisha_> intelikey: i used nerolinux cuz' prev. vers. of k3b was unable to write in UDF format.
[04:09] <Ryoga85> Ich bin [zurck]  | Ich war seit [20. August 2006, 15:16:20]  weg (Dauer: [0 Std. 52 Min.] , Grund: [bin mal weg.] ).
[04:09] <intelikey> nero is ok.  but what do you have to do  dl and compile it ?
[04:09] <grisha_> intelikey: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/NeroLINUX-Download-2506.html
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a frontend to cdrecord - if cdrecord doesn't work k3b won't - if its scsi its just as easy to just use cdrecord directly
[04:12] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah.   problem is cdrecord works fine and k3b doesn't do anything usefull
[04:13] <andrew___`> # how do i type this symbol?
[04:13] <tk> shift+3 ?
[04:13] <intelikey> shift 3  on a qwerty kbd
[04:13] <tk> intelikey: what is it on a dvorak? :P
[04:14] <grisha_> AltGr X on a hungarian keyboard. :)
[04:14] <andrew___`> when I type shift-3 this symbol comes out
[04:15] <tk> andrew___`: try this, hold down alt and type 35 on your numeric pad then let go of alt
[04:16] <intelikey> tk i don't know.
[04:16] <grisha_> tk: what is the layout of your keyboard?
[04:16] <tk> grisha_: its a regular old keyboard with multimedia keys
[04:17] <dr_willis> :)
[04:17] <grisha_> tk: what language layout did u choose when u installed kubuntu?
[04:18] <intelikey> what is that?  you have to register or something to download nero.... i'm not registering.
[04:18] <tk> english, I dont know if that works in Kubuntu, I'm just offering an alternate way that I know to type that symbol
[04:18] <grisha_> intelikey: i didn't register
[04:18] <andrew___`> thnx it worked, I had to turn on the usa english
[04:19] <andrew___`> instead of uk enlish
[04:19] <Tokeiito> !pastebin Tokeiito
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin Tokeiito - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <tk> grisha_: the alt+numeric pad is a way of typing ascii codes
[04:19] <tk> 35 being the ascii code for #
[04:20] <zipper_> !java > zipper_
[04:20] <grisha_> intelikey: ftp://ftp5.usw.nero.com/nerolinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86.deb
[04:21] <grisha_> tk: yes. It works under some program. But you can't use it is for ex. konsole
[04:21] <tk> grisha_: he didnt say he wanted it in konsole :P
[04:21] <tk> (not that I saw anyways)
[04:22] <DralaFi> yay upgrading to dapper now
[04:22] <intelikey> grisha_ ty.
[04:22] <Tokeiito> geh. can't upload my error to pastebin.com. where i can upload it?
[04:22] <DralaFi> rafb.net/paste/
[04:23] <Tokeiito> thnx
[04:23] <grisha_> intelikey: u can use it for 30 days free, or enter a sn, or buy one.
[04:24] <intelikey> yeah
[04:24] <grisha_> intelikey: is there any short versions of "you are welcome"?  Like "nm" in hungarian? :)
[04:24] <larson9999> intelikey: don't bother.  k3b is much better anyway
[04:24] <tk> grisha_: yw... works :)
[04:24] <larson9999> well, that's what people tell me... that nero is a dog on linux
[04:24] <DralaFi> igen
[04:24] <grisha_> tk: thx
[04:25] <tk> ty = thank you, yw = you're welcome :)
[04:25] <grisha_> ty, I'm learning fast.
[04:25] <larson9999> ty, ilf
[04:26] <DralaFi> lol
[04:26] <larson9999> hm, oadile. kilke. aiugme.
[04:26] <grisha_> rotfl
[04:26] <larson9999> am i cool now?
[04:26] <steveire> tla ftw!!!
[04:27] <larson9999> this is how old i am.  when i started chatting this was on of the most common emoticons: <bg>
[04:27] <grisha_> intelikey: if nero works, I can give you a sn.
[04:27] <tk> larson9999: hehe
[04:28] <zipper_> I just installed sun java using the guide on the wiki, but i still get the "OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE." error. Do i need to reboot in order to get the JRE loaded?
[04:29] <zipper_> the error comes from frostwire btw, forgot to mention that
[04:29] <tk> zipper_: 99% of the time, reboots arent needed in linux
[04:29] <Freddy2> hi
[04:29] <zipper_> i know, but it's a bit wierd the guide doesnt say a thing about what to do
[04:29] <zipper_> i doubt i'm the first to encounter this problem
[04:29] <tk> let me find the guide I used, it worked great
[04:30] <DralaFi> can we not just grab the java's .bin file and install it like we have all this time?
[04:30] <grisha_> zipper: try to install jre via automatix or easyubuntu and you can't make mistakes
[04:30] <dr_willis> Gee i foundit hard to even get those TO install jre.
[04:30] <tk> o wait, that was for 32bit java for 64bit linux nevermind
[04:30] <dr_willis> :)
[04:30] <zipper_> grisha_, i tried through easyubuntu, but it crashes. But i'll give it a go with the nightly build instead, thanks
[04:31] <dr_willis> !java
[04:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:31] <grisha_> zipper: use this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper   Do the easyubuntu part and you'll be fine
[04:32] <grisha_> zipper: Do 4.1 and 6.1 (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper)
[04:34] <DralaFi> ooh i wonder if beagle is in the repositories
[04:34] <zipper_> grisha_, i just installed java with easyUbuntu, but i still get the same error when i try running frostwire. On the java guide though, i found this "Note: Scroll down to "Selecting the default Java version" section to enable the JRE you have installed." - but it doesnt say where to do so
[04:35] <Freddy2> zipper_: and the error that you get is.. ?
[04:35] <dr_willis> check which java you are using by default
[04:35] <dr_willis> with java -version (or was it --version)
[04:35] <zipper_> Freddy2, "OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE."
[04:35] <Freddy2> zipper_: what about having "java" in the PATH and having defined JAVA_HOME?
[04:35] <zipper_> dr_willis, gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0
[04:36] <DralaFi> maybe you need the real JRE
[04:36] <dr_willis> zipper_,  you are usign the GPL java. not the OFFICIAL sun one
[04:36] <dr_willis> this is a common 'issue' ive seen  you need to change the 'alternatives' to use the SUN java
[04:36] <zipper_> dr_willis, i'm quite aware of that. Thats my problem
[04:37] <dr_willis> i forget the command to do so...
[04:37] <dr_willis> update-alternatives -configure java
[04:37] <grisha_> Jeess, I'm starving to death. It's Aug. 20. Every shop is closed, even Tesco and non-stop shops. AAhhh.
[04:37] <dr_willis> i think is the command ya need to use. and select suns java. (or thats how it worked for most people)
[04:37] <Freddy2> considering that jre/jdk from sun doesn't install anything out of its folder you can install (uncrompress/copy to anywhere/set values for vars) it and use it without needing to update apt
[04:37] <zipper_> dr_willis, okay, let me just try that
[04:37] <dr_willis> and ive noticed that easyubuntu, and automatix both seem to miss that step. :)
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> or use java-package (you can get release 7 then)
[04:38] <zipper_> dr_willis, that worked, thank you very much
[04:38] <dr_willis> and  :)
[04:38] <zipper_> have you told the easyubuntu devs about this problem?
[04:38] <dr_willis> this has been asked like 10 times in the last 2 days here
[04:39] <zipper_> i see
[04:39] <dr_willis> zipper_,  i tend to take the DONT use easyubuntu/automatix route
[04:39] <zipper_> havent been online much the last couple of days
[04:39] <dr_willis> java from the apt-get stuff has some other little issues as well.. some of it is suns fault.
[04:39] <dr_willis> like their make eula that dont show up right ulness ya got some other package installed first.
[04:40] <grisha_> :)
[04:40] <dr_willis> im thinking the order ya install the java and some of the dev stuff is causing some issues as well.
[04:40] <zipper_> ok
[04:41] <fritsch> dr_willis: dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf
[04:41] <dr_willis> , if you want to use Sun Java instead of the open source GIJ you need to set it as default. Run:
[04:41] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:41] <fritsch> dr_willis: choose dialog, and then it is displayed while installing
[04:41] <dr_willis> is what the wiki page sez.
[04:41] <grisha_> how can i register on freenode? I'd like to send pm.
[04:41] <Freddy2> /msg nickserv help
[04:41] <dr_willis> fritsch,  yea. there was some other package for the x dialog.. :P took me forever to notice what was going on.
[04:41] <grisha_> thx
[04:42] <dimsuz> hi! On every boot I have the following error:
[04:43] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - has ALL this info :P lol..
[04:43] <dimsuz> dosfsck: There are differences between bootsector and its backup (a number of hex strings). Not automatically fixing this.
[04:43] <dimsuz> I guess it's related somehow with my windows fat32 parition, but what does it mean exactly? :)
[04:43] <dimsuz> and how to avoid it?
[04:44] <Ryoga85> it means, there are differences between the boot sector and its backup
[04:44] <dimsuz> Ryoga85: :) yes, but why is that so? :)
[04:44] <Ryoga85> i don't know
[04:44] <dimsuz> :)
[04:45] <dimsuz> can I somehow turn off this windows partition check then?
[04:46] <DralaFi> maybe by editing /etc/fstab
[04:46] <dimsuz> DralaFi: but that will make me unable to mount this partition....
[04:47] <DralaFi> why?
[04:47] <grisha_> run a chkdsk C: /f in windows
[04:47] <dimsuz> DralaFi: ah, yes. Well let's say it will make me unable to _conviniently_ unmount my win partition :)
[04:48] <DralaFi> no it wont
[04:48] <grisha_> if C: is that partition
[04:48] <DralaFi> it just wont check
[04:48] <dimsuz> grisha_: that'll help?
[04:48] <DralaFi> why won't you be able to conveniently unmount the partition???
[04:48] <grisha_> dimsuz: maybe. It will search and fix all errors on the disk.
[04:48] <dr_willis> why do you need to unmount it? :P
[04:49] <dimsuz> DralaFi: hmm. but if i remove it from fstab, i'll have to do smth like: "mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" instead of just "mount /media/hda1"
[04:49] <DralaFi> no you wont
[04:49] <DralaFi> /dev/hda1        /fat1            vfat        defaults,umask=0 1   0
[04:49] <Freddy2> you can use the noauto option
[04:49] <DralaFi> the last 0 means "If the sixth field
[04:49] <DralaFi>        is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked."
[04:49] <dr_willis> user, and users, options are nice also.
[04:49] <grisha_> yes
[04:49] <Freddy2> noauto,user/users, umask=000,rw
[04:49] <Freddy2> for example
[04:49] <DralaFi> you want auto
[04:50] <dimsuz> dr_willis: oh, s/unmount/mount :)
[04:50] <DralaFi> just make sure the last part of the line is 0
[04:50] <dimsuz> DralaFi: oh! I misread you :). I thought you suggest to _remove_ this entry from fstab rather than editing it :)
[04:50] <DralaFi> that's why I said "edit" :D
[04:51] <dimsuz> DralaFi: :D. Thanks, did it :).
[04:51] <dimsuz> I'll check on next reboot :)
[04:52] <dimsuz> btw, is there a way to install another bootsplash in kubuntu. Default one looks weird to me. Compared with Gentoo or Suse for example
[04:53] <grisha_> the cleanest way to deal with it is to put a startup disk (win98 for ex.) in the drive or a dos system disk with fdisk. Boot from it and give a fdisk /MBR that will restore the mbr. but do this ONLY!!!! if grub or lilo is on another disk's mbr. ONLY!
[04:53] <jorik> dimsuz: you mean like "pixelated", like it's using 16 bit colors ?
[04:54] <dimsuz> jorik: and that too. and weird fonts :)
[04:55] <jorik> dimsuz: yeah i have that too, but i never bothered ... but if you find a way to make it look prettiur lemme know :p
[04:55] <dimsuz> jorik: okay :)
[04:55] <jorik> :o)
[04:55] <cory> what's a good newsgroup reader for linux that handles binaries well?
[04:55] <dimsuz> jorik: I guess the only right solution atm is wait for edgy :)
[04:56] <Freddy2> edgy? the codename for next (k)ubuntu release?
[04:56] <grisha_> cory: rssOwl
[04:56] <dimsuz> Freddy2: yes
[04:57] <cory> bah!
[04:57] <jorik> dimsuz: that usually works best + i'm not gonna risk my setup for some eyecandy (which is why i wont touch xgl either)
[04:57] <grisha_> cory: And Akregator, but it sucks i think, and supporting binaries? donno
[04:57] <DralaFi> xgl is awesome :)
[04:58] <TehUni> mmm
[04:58] <DralaFi> got it on my slackware box
[04:58] <DralaFi> videos are very slow on it though
[04:58] <dimsuz> jorik: well, I'd try it if I knew how to do it. Btw, I tried xgl, it doesn't work for me - some weird compiz error
[04:58] <TehUni> i'll give it a shot. grisha_ rssowl in the repos?
[04:58] <dimsuz> DralaFi: I tried kororoaa liveCD. awesome, yes :)
[04:58] <DralaFi> :)
[04:59] <TehUni> oh.
[04:59] <jorik> rssowl handles nntp too ?
[04:59] <TehUni> grisha_: that's for rss/atom. I need one for newsgroups.
[04:59] <DralaFi> it was hard work getting it working on slackware. had to update X.org myself by hand... no packages.
[04:59] <dimsuz> TehUni: there's kde's knode, but I haven't tried it - just know that it exists :)
[05:00] <DralaFi> there's pan
[05:00] <larson9999> slack! lol
[05:00] <jorik> TehUni: i use pan
[05:00] <DralaFi> that does binary usenet stuff
[05:00] <dimsuz> is there vim7 for kubuntu?
[05:00] <grisha_> TehUni: oh, my mistake. btw: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RSS.2FRDF.2FAtom_Newsreader_.28RSSOwl.29
[05:01] <TehUni> jorik: does it do .nzb's ?
[05:02] <grisha_> TehUni: yes
[05:02] <grisha_> TehUni: but only 0.9x
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: Its in edgy / debian sid - you can use apt-get -b source vim (from edgy or sid repositories)
[05:03] <TehUni> k
[05:03] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: that'll build vim from sources, yes?
[05:04] <grisha_> TehUni: and above
[05:04] <grisha_> TehUni: http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: you need a suitable deb-src line - but yes
[05:04] <dimsuz> h3sp4wn: ok, thanks!
[05:05] <dragonkh> hi anyone running with a 7950gx2 ?
[05:07] <grisha_> dragonkh: you can only use both cores if you have an sli ready MB. Btw, u've got a nice card.
[05:07] <DralaFi> what would be cool is to have Adept have a progress bar when installing packages
[05:08] <dragonkh> grisha_: I am struggling with running in twinview
[05:08] <dragonkh> grisha_: I got the sli working fine - but I want to use both screens
[05:09] <dr_willis> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example
[05:09] <dr_willis> is what i followed/used/hacked/tweaked to get mine working
[05:10] <grisha_> dragonkh. Install NVIDIA driver first. Than sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable  and edit the xorg.conf file.
[05:10] <grisha_> You can find lots of guides on the web. Pick one. Google for it.
[05:13] <dragonkh> grisha_:  where do i get this command ?  sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable
[05:13] <dragonkh> grisha_: I dont seem to have nvidia-glx-configure
[05:13] <abattoir> DralaFi: i see you have got kubuntu installed on your laptop :)
[05:13] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:14] <DralaFi> abattoir, yeah :)
[05:14] <abattoir> DralaFi: breezy->dapper ?
[05:14] <DralaFi> it finished upgrading just now, so i'll reboot
[05:14] <DralaFi> abattoir, yes :)
[05:14] <abattoir> DralaFi: cool :)
[05:15] <equinoxeB> does anyone knows how I can make kopete refresh contacts photos?
[05:15] <DralaFi> but i made a mistake and did:  breezy -> breezy-latest -> dapper :)
[05:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: so i guess the problem was edgy specific
[05:15] <abattoir> DralaFi: sorry, dapper specific
[05:15] <DralaFi_laptop> time to reboot :)
[05:15] <ketsugi> Grr, any kmobiletools users around?
[05:16] <grisha_> dragonkh: you can install nvidia driver with easyubuntu That's the fastest way. After it is done, u open a konsole and type sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable.
[05:17] <Freddy2> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2915
[05:17] <grisha_> dragonkh: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper will be very helpful. But you have to edit the xorg.conf manually
[05:18] <dragonkh> grisha - I did a apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:19] <dragonkh> I'll try easyubunty
[05:20] <exotic> hey all
[05:21] <exotic> need some help please
[05:21] <exotic> ive done everything, to make amarok play mp3, but in vain!
[05:21] <exotic> xmms plays them very well,.. but i dunno what's wrong amarok,..
[05:22] <exotic> xine does not play them either,
[05:22] <exotic> any help?
[05:22] <fritsch> exotic: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:22] <fritsch> exotic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:22] <DralaFi_laptop> \o/
[05:22] <DralaFi_laptop> dapper
[05:22] <larson9999> does xawtv work for you guys in dapper?  it locks my system up.  black screen and i can't get do anything.
[05:23] <born> hi
[05:23] <fritsch> larson9999: have tried tvtime?
[05:23] <fritsch> larson9999: this rocks for me
[05:23] <grisha_> dragonkh: you find some help to configure xorg.conf on www.ubuntuforums.org ( here is one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7938.html    it's for a DFP + 1 CRT, all you have to do is reedit it. Use only from section "Devise" to Section "Server Layout" The other parts might be different at you.
[05:23] <exotic> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:23] <exotic> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:23] <exotic> is only available from another source
[05:23] <exotic> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[05:23] <exotic> fritsch:
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: multiverse und universe enablen
[05:23] <exotic> that's what i got
[05:23] <emma> hi, i am a complete newbeginner with kubuntu. Everything on my screen is huge, and when I try to change the resolution in system settings, there is only one option to choose from. The lowest one. Any help?
[05:23] <born> I'm installing Kubuntu on my system, I used linux already, now I have deleted everything on my partition, except the /home folder. I can't make a backup, I want to install Kubuntu on this partition, will Kubuntu delete my /home folder?
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: enable multiverse and universe
[05:23] <fritsch> exotic: just click them to enable in adept
[05:24] <exotic> fritsch:how do i enable them again? sorry
[05:24] <larson9999> fritsch: yeah, i've tried it and don't have any issues with it.  but i'm curious why xawtv is locking up my system.
[05:24] <fritsch> !repos > exotic
[05:24] <echo> Hi, have someone Cedega 4.x.x ?
[05:24] <born> does anybody know the kubuntu installer behaviour? :)
[05:24] <fritsch> !repos > fritsch
[05:25] <emma> hi, i am a complete newbeginner with kubuntu. Everything on my screen is huge, and when I try to change the resolution in system settings, there is only one option to choose from. The lowest one. Any help?
[05:25] <dr_willis> emma,  what video card?
[05:25] <born> oh, please, help me :)
[05:25] <grisha_> born: use kubuntu as a live disk, backup your data, and install.
[05:25] <born> grisha_: I can't backup my data
[05:25] <born> grisha_: I have no space
[05:25] <dr_willis> by 'huge' you mean the screen is being shown at a very low res. thus making the fonts and stuff 'big'
[05:26] <born> grisha_: I'm in Kubuntu Live now, but I have to install into an existing partition without formatting it or wiping all data
[05:26] <emma> envidea geforce3 proffessional.
[05:26] <born> grisha_: so what's the kubuntu behaviour, will the installer wipe all data?
[05:26] <exotic> fritsch: -extracodecs, i can't find them in adept
[05:27] <grisha_> born: than install kubuntu and give another user name, to create a different home folder. During install make sure not to check the format option at the partition.
[05:27] <fritsch> exotic: i told you to enable multiverse and universe
[05:27] <born> grisha_: ok
[05:27] <fritsch> exotic: just read what the bot has written to you
[05:27] <larson9999> born: do you have your data in a differnt partion like /home ?
[05:27] <born> larson9999: no, I have only two partitions (/boot and /)
[05:27] <soulrider> you guys like my kubuntu userbar? http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4840/kuserqq5.png
[05:27] <born> I want to keep them
[05:27] <soulrider> you can use it if you want :P
[05:27] <emma> envidea geforce3 proffessional.
[05:28] <MCTOM> hi Ryoga85
[05:28] <grisha_> born: it works only if your home folder is /home/born
[05:28] <born> and I want that Kubuntu uses them without formatting or wiping all data on them
[05:28] <LudwigVanHatten> hello
[05:28] <Nachtschatten> Huhu MCTOM *grins*
[05:28] <grisha_> or something like that.
[05:28] <dr_willis> emma,  install the nvidia drivers for that card for a start
[05:28] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:28] <MCTOM> Nachtschatten hehe
[05:28] <emma> ok, how do i do that?
[05:28] <dr_willis> emma,  and you proverly want to isntall 'synaptic' first so that guide is 'correct'
[05:28] <LudwigVanHatten> looking for an application like "autoroute" in kubuntu
[05:28] <born> grisha_: I renamed my old home folder so there would be no collission at all...
[05:29] <LudwigVanHatten> or something like mapping world, directions
[05:29] <larson9999> born you can tell it not to reformat if you choose the custom partion option but i've never tried installing and not reformatting the partition root will go on.
[05:29] <born> larson9999: ok :) so this is a bit risky for me
[05:29] <fritsch> exotic: still there?
[05:29] <exotic> fritsch:still don't know how to enable universe and multiuniverse, didn't find it in the url bot gave
[05:29] <grisha_> born: than give it a try. At partitionin choose, custom, and uncheck the format mark at /
[05:29] <born> larson9999: not format means only not format, but not necessary "not deleting data"
[05:29] <born> grisha_: i need my data ;)
[05:29] <steveire_> imposter
[05:30] <larson9999> born in the future you should put your data in a separate partition
[05:30] <emma> sorry, but i am a complete new beginner... details?
[05:30] <dr_willis> emma,  sudo apt-get install synaptic  (for a start) then go read at that !nvidia url
[05:30] <steveire> better
[05:30] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <fritsch> exotic: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten
[05:30] <fritsch> exotic: oh, sorry, that'`s german
[05:31] <grisha_> emma: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  Do steps 4.1-->6.1 and you can install nvidia driver via gui
[05:31] <larson9999> born: it shouldn't delete data unless the same file exists.  like i said i've never tried it without reformatting the root drive
[05:31] <born> larson9999: I know
[05:31] <fritsch> exotic: you need an english source?
[05:31] <born> larson9999: I will give it a try
[05:31] <exotic> fritsch:yes, english
[05:31] <larson9999> born: how much room do you have on your drive?
[05:31] <fritsch> exotic: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-add-universe-and-multiverse-repository
[05:32] <fritsch> exotic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:32] <born> about 20 gigs
[05:32] <grisha_> emma: bookmark this page, cuz' it's quite helpful.
[05:32] <fritsch> exotic: just add multiverse and universe
[05:32] <larson9999> you can always use gparted and shrink your partiion and then copy data over to the new one
[05:32] <born> it is lazier for a desktop system to have only one partition :)
[05:32] <exotic> fritsch:thanx so mcuh really, i'll check this and tell u
[05:33] <fritsch> exotic: cool! no prob
[05:33] <larson9999> born 20 gig free?  is that enough to hold the data you want to preserve?
[05:34] <born> larson9999: no
[05:34] <larson9999> born: if you compress it?
[05:34] <grisha_> I think the minimum is 3 part. /boot / and swap. I have two other storage part. on another disk.
[05:34] <born> larson9999: no way :)
[05:34] <fritsch> grisha_: minimum ist 2 parts
[05:34] <born> grisha_: yeah this is also my schema
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: / and swap
[05:35] <born> i have /boot / and swap
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: boot with fat is only needed, if you would installe Windows
[05:35] <larson9999> man, i don't have even 10 gig worth of data and i've been collecting it for 20 years.
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: after ubuntu
[05:35] <grisha_> fritsch: if you are minimalist you can use one. / .
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: yes, but swapfile i do not like
[05:35] <fritsch> grisha_: suspend 2 disk (in kernel) is not possible ...
[05:35] <grisha_> fritsch: yes, me neither
[05:37] <fritsch> grisha_: i use suspend2, this can use a filewriter
[05:37] <fritsch> grisha_: but changing ubuntu kernel, etc. is not fun
[05:37] <grisha_> I used UHU-linux without swap partition. Have 2gigs of ram and you wont't notice the absence
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: yes
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: my computer does not swap for most of the time
[05:38] <fritsch> grisha_: but suspend, etc.
[05:39] <grisha_> but as I mentioned 3 part is the minimum (yes, if you need win too, I don't need anymore, so it's like bad habit)
[05:40] <dhq> which is the least interface like fluxbox
[05:40] <grisha_> I have one more XFX storage part. around 60gigs, and one 100G fat32. It's unfortunatly a must, cuz' my friends use XP
[05:41] <larson9999> grisha_: you can use ext2 in windows :)
[05:41] <grisha_> yes, i know. It can read, ext2 and ext3.
[05:42] <Freddy2> even reiser, with certain app
[05:42] <grisha_> But when I visit my friends for a couple dosen of films...
[05:43] <larson9999> grisha_: and write.  but if you use ext3 for write and windows shuts down 'in a bad way' you'll need to fsck it so i use ext2 to share a part between linux and xp
[05:43] <HailandKill> How do I set up a network hotplug in Dapper?
[05:44] <grisha_> I managed it with fat32, never tried to write to ext3 with ext2fs. The only catch is the file size barrier under fat32. But it's easy to deal with it
[05:45] <larson9999> grisha_: that's why i left fat32 for ext2.
[05:45] <TehUni> my hd is getting full so i'm gonna get a bigger one and move my kubuntu install over. what's the easiet way to do that?
[05:46] <exotic> fritsch:universe and multiuniverse enabled, downloading extracodecs now, thanx
[05:46] <larson9999> TehUni: i would use gparted live cd to copy the partition from the old to the new drive
[05:46] <grisha_> I use RaiserFS for system, XFS for storage under linux. Fat32 is just for easy transportation.
[05:46] <TehUni> larson9999: will that keep the bootsector intact?
[05:46] <TehUni> or am i going to have to reinstall grub?
[05:46] <fritsch> exotic: nice to have helped
[05:46] <larson9999> TehUni: it has for me so far.
[05:47] <stray_77> tehuni, get a hirams boot cd and clone your drive
[05:47] <steveire> I have some files containing 'one two foo three'. How do I change all of the files to 'one two bar three'? I thought I could use sed, but it outputs to stdout rather than editing the file
[05:47] <Ryoga85> I hae a question. Is there write support for NTFS in kubuntu 6.06.1?
[05:47] <Ryoga85> *have
[05:47] <steveire> hirens boot cd*
[05:47] <stray_77> !ntfs
[05:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:47] <stray_77> !fuse
[05:47] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:47] <HailandKill> !hotplug
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <grisha_> Ryoga85: No, but you can add. But I would not recommend it. It's experimental
[05:48] <HailandKill> !wireless
[05:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:48] <exotic> fritsch:mp3 files working properly, thanx so much, u made my day
 ok, because I have a 400GB hdd formatted with NTFS
[05:49] <fritsch> exotic: mine makes the sun
[05:49] <exotic> fritsch:lol
[05:49] <larson9999> i use captive to edit my ntfs partition when i have to.  so far no problems.
[05:50] <larson9999> Ryoga85: i use captive to edit my ntfs partition when i have to.  so far no problems. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[05:50] <grisha_> Ryoga85: It's called sucks. I had 160GB full, the same (NTFS), and the other hdd is only 60gigs, so I backed up, at my friend
[05:50] <hume> hi.. i installed knetworkmanager, and am connected through wireless net, but knetworkmanager says disconnected and shows no networks - do I have to set it up in any specific way?
[05:52] <stray_77> hume, which nic are you looking at? eth0 (probably rj45) or eth1 (probably your wireless)
[05:52] <grisha_> Ryoga85: It's possible to convert your filesystem to FAT32. With PQMAGIC 8. But, it's not free of risks either.
[05:52] <larson9999> time to make the doughnuts
[05:52] <dhq> hey
[05:52] <dhq> hey all
[05:52] <dhq> i need help with k3b any experts to help
[05:53] <hume> stray_77, my wireless nic is eth0 - but how do I set which nit knm looks at?
 hmm
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> dhq: I take it you have already run kdesu k3bsetup ?
[05:54] <fidel_> i'm not an expert dhq, but i might be able to help
[05:54] <HailandKill> hume: I'm actually, by chance, installing knm now. I'll have a look about setting it up and try and help you.
[05:54] <hume> HailandKill, thx
[05:54] <dhq> well when i burn a dvd i get aerror msg h3sp4wn fidel_
[05:54] <grisha_> Ryoga85: 1st, cuz 400gigs is too much not to mistak :) And, FAT32 cant handle files larger than 4GB
[05:54] <grisha_> e
 umm, so you can't store a DVD image on a fat32 disk? well I have a nice ISO Image collection *lol*
[05:55] <HailandKill> hume, yeah. So I've got exactly the same problem as you =) Which I guess is good!
[05:56] <hume> HailandKill, sounds good..:)
[05:56] <dhq> h3sp4wn: fidel_;-( unable to SET STREAMING:input/outputerror   Fatal error at startup:Input/output error
[05:57] <HailandKill> !knetworkmanager
[05:57] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[05:57] <fidel_> hmm...dhq have you tried gnomebaker instead of k3b?
[05:57] <HailandKill> hume, are you reading http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[05:58] <HailandKill> Official documentation may be a good place to start
[05:58] <grisha_> Ryoga85: I thought so. (from the 400Gigs). And no, you can't. :( Get another 400G HDD for a couple of hours.
[05:58] <dhq> fidel_: no not really
[05:58] <Ryoga85> well, it's not full
[05:58] <hume> HailandKill, yes, and yes..:)
[05:58] <Ryoga85> less than 100GB are used yet
[05:59] <fidel_> try this dhq: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_CD.2FDVD_Burning_Application_.28GnomeBaker.29
[05:59] <Ryoga85> and most time I work with WinXP
[05:59] <grisha_> Than create separate partitions on that large disk
[05:59] <fidel_> anybody know if growisofs is included automatically in the dvdrw tools?
[06:00] <hume> HailandKill, there is also https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperKNetworkmanager
[06:00] <fidel_> !growisofs
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Ryoga85> hmm, is there a newer version of kubuntu than dapper?
[06:00] <grisha_> Ryoga85: This drive is only for storage?
[06:00] <dr_willis> Not sure if theres a Edgy Kubuntu yet.
[06:00] <grisha_> Ryoga85: Nope
[06:01] <dhq> fidel_: is gnomebaker better than k3b
[06:01] <fidel_> if it works, yes
[06:01] <Ryoga85> Netsplit Entdeckt: niven.freenode.net verlor die Verbindung zu irc.freenode.net und allen mit ihm verbundenen Servern!
 mostly yes, it's an external hdd on my laptop and is always on my desk while i'm not there
[06:01] <Ryoga85> huh?
[06:01] <HailandKill> hume, what wireless card have you got and why are you using knm?
[06:01] <fidel_> and since k3b isn't working try giving it a try
[06:01] <fidel_> also, try uninstalling and reinstalling k3b
[06:02] <hume> HailandKill, I got a buit in card in a toshiba portege m200, trying out nm as I need to switch settings whn moving from one wlan to another
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a frontend for cdrecord - use k3bsetup to set the permissions right - then get cdrecord working then k3b will work
[06:03] <HailandKill> hume, and your using Dapper 6.06?
[06:03] <hume> HailandKill, yes
[06:03] <dhq> fidel_:
[06:03] <fidel_> hey dhq, that h3sp4wn line was for you
[06:03] <dhq> :-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[06:03] <dhq> :-( unable to SET STREAMING: Input/output error
[06:03] <grisha_> Ryoga85: Than under XP, download pqmagic 8. Defragment the drive. Install pqmagic. Run. Resize the partition to 300G:100G or whatever u want. Create a new part on the unused free space. Format it to ext2 and apply. You can write to ext2 under linux. And u can read/write ext2 under win. And of course you can read-only ntfs part under linux.
[06:04] <fidel_> dhq: you get that from gnomebaker too?
[06:04] <dhq> yes
[06:04] <dhq> fidel_: yes
[06:04] <fidel_> have you tried running cdrecord from the command line?
[06:04] <dr_willis> I perfer the various live gparted cd's :P
 pqmagic is not for free, is it? and what do I need to read ext2 in windows? because windows comes withou ext2 drivers
[06:05] <fidel_> hey dr_willis, you have any idea what might help dhq?
[06:05] <dr_willis> not sure what his issue is.
[06:05] <dr_willis> :) let me sroll up
[06:06] <grisha_> gnomebaker and k3b runs on the same engine.
[06:06] <fidel_> and to anyone in the room- is growisofs included in dvdrw tools?
[06:06] <dr_willis> looke like a permission issue.
[06:06] <dr_willis> fidel_,  install it and see?
[06:06] <dr_willis> !info growisofs
[06:06] <ubotu> Package growisofs does not exist in dapper
[06:06] <dr_willis> !info dvdrwtools
[06:06] <ubotu> Package dvdrwtools does not exist in dapper
[06:06] <dr_willis> :) hmm.. lol
[06:07] <fidel_> yeah, it's part of the dvdrwtools
[06:07] <fidel_> i'm a moran
 gparted claims to be able to change the size of ntfs partitions, should I try it or rather not?
[06:07] <fidel_> that's prbly not the exact pack name
[06:07] <fidel_> so, how can dhq fix his issue?
[06:07] <dr_willis> i was just wondering  why it mattered either way.,. if it wasent.. install it. :P
[06:07] <fidel_> is it permissions on the /media thing
[06:07] <dhq> fidel_: dr_willis: what if i use sudo gnomebaker then there wont be any permission issues
[06:08] <fidel_> that might work
[06:08] <dr_willis> try it and see.
[06:08] <grisha_> Ryoga85: pqmagic is not free. But it's not a problem. After you're done, you can uninstall it. You need Ext2fs to read/write ext2. It's a small program. But there might be a driver, or plugin for Total commander donno. I used ext2fs
[06:08] <fidel_> thanks for your time folks. im audi
[06:08] <dr_willis> the burning tools should be accessing /dev/whatever  - NOT /media/whatever
[06:08] <HailandKill> hume, it might be that knm isn't supporting our network cards. It isn't a very expansive list, seems rather new software.
[06:09] <dhq> dr_willis: so what can i do
[06:09] <hume> HailandKill, have you understood where to configure which card it checks? eth0, eth1?
[06:09] <dr_willis> compare the permissions on /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd and so on - with others. perhaps as a start
[06:09] <grisha_> Ryoga86: i wrote pqmagic, cuz' i know it and it's working fine. I use it for 8 years or so.
[06:09] <Marie_> hello everyone
[06:10] <grisha_> hi
[06:10] <Marie_> I'm having trouble installing the driver from my network card
[06:10] <west-en> i tried to get a swap space, using first mkswap, and now swapon
[06:10] <dhq> dr_willis: i am new to linux so dont know much
[06:10] <west-en> but when i try use swapon, he tels me that the device is busy
[06:10] <west-en> someone that know?
[06:11] <dr_willis> dhq,  you are running this stuff as your first user? or as root?
[06:11] <Marie_> I think the installing process doesn't find my kernel header files cause there in /usr/src/linux/include/linux instead of /usr/src/linux/include directly
[06:11] <grisha_> MArie: what kind of card? What's the error message? What kind of driver?
 I have pqmagic 7 but it can't resize ntfs partitions afaik
[06:11] <dhq> dr_willis: firstuser
[06:11] <grisha_> Marie: edit the configure file.
[06:12] <Marie_> grisha_ Dlink DFE-530TX
[06:12] <west-en> someone that can help med with the swap?
[06:12] <dr_willis> dhq,  try  'ksudo k3b' yet ? (or whatever the kde command is to run stuff as root)
[06:12] <HailandKill> hume, as far as I gather, you configure them nomrally in the nework settings. knetwork manager is meant to pick all this up automatically.
[06:12] <HailandKill> I think...
[06:13] <Marie_> grisha_ how do I edit which file?
[06:13] <Ryoga85> oh, it can?
[06:14] <dhq> dr_willis: i still get the same error
[06:14] <grisha_> Marie:
[06:14] <hume> HailandKill, network-admin is the tool I've used so far, that seems not to be troubled b y my card - you mean there is a difference in how these tools depend on the actual card?
[06:14] <Marie_> grisha_ you can find the instructions on http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/68077-help-compiling-source-file.html
[06:15] <grisha_> Marie: DFE-530TX has VIA Rhine, the TX+ has RTL8139 chipset. U don't need to install drivers.
[06:15] <Marie_> when I get to step 4, I don't know how it's supposed to generate rhinefet.o, but all I get is long pages of errors
[06:15] <dr_willis> dhq,  id take the exact error and google for it and see what shows up.
[06:16] <Marie_> grisha_ but then my internet connection is not working...
[06:16] <grisha_> Marie: Go to System->Administration->networking  ---> Ethernet connection --click--. Properties--->set it to DHCP or static, whatever u use and activate. It's done
[06:16] <HailandKill> hume, I'm not sure what you mean... but I assume knm isn't even detecting any hardware with you? It isn't with me. If it can't find any hardware, it can't configure it.
[06:16] <Marie_> it doesn't find the ethernet connection...
[06:17] <Marie_> grisha_ I only have a ra0 appearing, no eth0
[06:17] <Ryoga85[away] > Ich bin ab jetzt [abwesend]  | Grund: [pause machen]  | [20. August 2006, 18:17:12]
[06:17] <Ryoga85[away] > | bye all people on freenode | [amsg]
[06:17] <Marie_> grisha_ (and
[06:17] <Marie_> and I do have another wireless card
[06:18] <grisha_> Marie: hm. than 2 options
[06:18] <exotic> fritsch:it's me again, sorry, but this one is trivial, but i really can't get it: when i try to listen to radio online using Konqueror, it requires to 'save files as', but i just want it to open in the brwoser with amarok, got what i mean?
[06:18] <Ryoga85[away] > <grisha_> whats the difference between kubuntu CD and DVD image?
[06:18] <grisha_> Marie: 1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87643  or 2. you can try editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and go to the line with the kernel entry and add: acpi=force pci=noacpi
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: yes
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: just open with and then amarok
[06:19] <fritsch> exotic: right klick on the link - open with amarok
[06:19] <Marie_> grisha_ what will option 2 do?
[06:19] <hume> HailandKill, i guess I really dont know myself - but my hypothesis was that all nm needed to access was the device name, eth0 or eth1, not the card as such, which seems to be what network-admin does
[06:20] <grisha_> Ryoga85: DVD has tons of packages, so you don't need to download them.
[06:20] <Ryoga85[away] > <grisha_> ah ok
[06:21] <exotic> fritsch:thanx, sorry for bothering,..
[06:21] <grisha_> Marie: your OS will recognise your card easier
[06:21] <dhq> dr_willis: brb just ctrl_alt_bckspace
[06:21] <hume> HailandKill, anyway, my wireless nic is Intel pro wiresless 2200, that should be supported by nm
[06:21] <Marie_> grisha_ when I do a "ifconfig eth0" it says it doesn't find the peripheric
[06:22] <grisha_> Marie: but it's the second, cuz'  it can make other changes too, based on your hardware.
[06:24] <Marie_> grisha_ according to the post you sent me, my driver is not installed...
[06:24] <Skrot> Hi. I've got two sound cards in my computer. Is there an easy way to switch between them?
[06:24] <grisha_> Marie: Than the OS did not recognised the card. Try opt. 2, or google on it. (DFE-530TX ubuntu) tons of posts. Or you canb change
[06:26] <Marie_> grisha_ the funny thing is it once worked, than just got so long, and stopped working
[06:26] <grisha_> Marie: or you can change your card to a RTL or intel chipset card. If you have some at home (I have 3 :) Or if you have 2 comps at home, and u use win on the other simply change the cards.
[06:26] <grisha_> Marie: Oh.
[06:26] <hume> HailandKill, if I understand the documentation correctly, the fact that knm does not find my nic should indicate that hal doesn't find it - you know how to check if hal does?
[06:27] <Marie_> grisha_ as for changing cards, I just bought this one!
[06:27] <grisha_> Marie: Than maybe the card is out of order. I don't think that Via rhine or rhine II is not supported by the kernel.
[06:28] <Marie_> grisha_ but I just bought it, what the fuck?
[06:28] <grisha_> Marie: Sometimes Via rhine is not activated by default, upon install. Like on ubuntu or UHU-Linux, but you can simply activate it.
[06:28] <Marie_> grisha_ yeah, that's what happened
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> I thought via only had closed drivers for those cards
[06:29] <james_xxx> does anyone in here have experience with usb wireless adapters?
[06:29] <grisha_> Marie: If you have just bought it, than you have 1 year warranty. Take it back and change it to a RTL8139 chipset card
[06:29] <HailandKill> hume, no idea, I found hal wasn't actually installed on my machine... it is now though
[06:29] <HailandKill> hume I found this http://nozell.com/blog/2006/03/17/getting-networkmanager-to-work-on-ubuntudapper/
[06:30] <HailandKill> haven't read it yet
[06:31] <Marie_> grisha_ and is there any definite test I can do to make sure it's not working?
[06:31] <HailandKill> hume, it seems you need to remove all references in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:31] <james_xxx> i have a wusb54g v.4 linksys wireless adapter hooked to this PC, but the PC keeps crashing when i am in kubuntu.... i don't know if it does this in windows or not, and i don't know if the usb wirelss adapter has anything to do with it
[06:31] <HailandKill> hume, expect for auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[06:31] <hume> HailandKill, great, I'll have a look. I found that hal do find my nic, browsing through hal-device-manager
[06:31] <hume> HailandKill, ok....just got to have dinner - wife calling..:) be back in a short while
[06:32] <grisha_> Marie: Try it in another PC, under win. If you have the opportunity.
[06:32] <HailandKill> hume, kk =)
[06:32] <Marie_> grisha_ any idea if there's gonna be lot's of hassle about bringing it back?
[06:35] <grisha_> Marie: I don't think so. Tell the guy that you couldn't use it under linux and you'd like another with realtek chipset.
[06:37] <chx> what's the state of nvidia driver (not nv) and xorg 7.1?
[06:37] <Bazzi> "not yet"
[06:38] <grisha_> Marie: An NIC card costs 8$. Too cheep to struggle. Or If you don't know them, or they doesn't look too friendly, just say it's not working.
[06:38] <Marie_> I just called the store and because it's passed 14 days, he can't do anything... I have to call the manufacturer........
[06:38] <tombuntu> wow
[06:38] <dhq> Hawkwind: unable to PERFORM OPC: Input/output error --->>my error with k3b and gnomebaker
[06:38] <tombuntu> people fighting over $5 nics
[06:38] <stray_77> ive never had a problem with a dlink dfe-530tx in linux
[06:38] <stray_77> try a different pci slot
[06:39] <Marie_> what does that mean?
[06:39] <grisha_> tombuntu: We might not live in the same country. :D
[06:39] <tombuntu> a while back someone helped me with some program like i915 or something which allowed me to edit the vbios to add 1280x768 as an optional resolution, but can't find it anymore
[06:39] <chx> Bazzi: is there a forum (on nvidia? ubuntuforums?) which i could put an alert on so I know when it's out
[06:39] <stray_77> the white slots on your motherboard are pci slots, try putting your nic in a differnet slot
[06:39] <tombuntu> 855resolution
[06:39] <tombuntu> finally found it :)
[06:40] <tgp> fritsch: can you open a query, i need to wait till my other nick gets a timeout...
[06:40] <rzei> does anyone know about enabling 3d hw accel with r200 series radeon (radeon 9000) and the opensource drivers?
[06:40] <Bazzi> chx: will be posted on nvidiaforums (.org?) then I think
[06:40] <Marie_> stray_77 I don't know if you've read the whole thing, but it worked at first, and then started getting really slow, and stopped working
[06:40] <dr_willis> rzei,  i use the ATI drivers (fglrx) with my x200m
[06:40] <Bazzi> chx: or hang around in #ubuntu+1 news should spread there quickly
[06:40] <Marie_> stray_77 so I don't know what that would change...
[06:41] <rzei> dr_willis: yeah but the hw accel should work with the oss drivers too
[06:41] <chx> #ubuntu+1 ?? sounds interesting
[06:41] <grisha_> Marie: Yes, you can try another PCI slot. And you can try editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and go to the line with the kernel entry and add: acpi=force pci=noacpi
[06:41] <stray_77> ok, in that case just get another nic
[06:41] <dr_willis> rzei,  not that i saw.
[06:41] <chx> Bazzi: hanging there. thanks.bye.
[06:41] <stray_77> if its worth your time you can get a RMA from the manufacturer but thatll take forever
[06:41] <dr_willis> rzei,  the thing dident even get the resolution right untill i installed the fglrx
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> rzei: It should work with accelerated 3d with mesa (unless you installed fglrx)
[06:42] <Freddy2> ati sux with linux but.. fglrx is the only real choice for ati cards
[06:42] <tgp> fritsch: they write i should install restricted modules
[06:42] <grisha_> But i have really bad memories (I know the world is changing, bla, bla) of VIA chipsets. So i would get rid of it. But that's me, and my memories.
[06:43] <Marie_> grisha_ which kernel line? all? I have 5
[06:43] <rzei> h3sp4wn: hmm it could be that i haven't properly removed fglrx, then
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: why do you have to do this?
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: what is your other nick?
[06:43] <rzei> dr_willis: i'd like to use oss drivers rather than ati's :)
[06:43] <tgp> i'm actually g-henna
[06:43] <fritsch> tgp: hehe, okay
[06:43] <rzei> Freddy2: yep, never gonna buy ati again
[06:43] <Freddy2> me 2
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: no you don't have to install them, because we build them from source
[06:44] <tgp> ok
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: including xorg driver
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> ati upto 9250 works better than anything
[06:44] <fritsch> tgp: just install these, with dpkg -i --force-all "xorg ... fglrx" as said before
[06:45] <mario> Hello does an German Kubuntu Channel exist??
[06:45] <grisha_> Marie: there are 4-6 main lines under every title:  title, root, kernel, initrd, blabla. You need the one starting with kernel    /vmlinuz
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> rzei: man dpkg-listdiverts (I think that is the name of it) list them all and grep for fglrx (it diverts alot of things which will break 3d with mesa)
[06:45] <Freddy2> mario: try #kubuntu-de
[06:46] <mario> thank you Freddy2
[06:46] <Marie_> grisha_ 4 out of 5 start with /boot/vmlinux
[06:46] <rzei> i simply did sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx and now glxinfo says i've got direct rendering enabled :)
[06:46] <grisha_> if the system crashez durig boot, then restart.
[06:46] <rzei> (though i was already using the ati driver, just had the package installed)
[06:46] <dr_willis> its possible that in a year or so from now ATI will be the  'prime' linux video card. :P who knows what the AMD_ATI merger will do.
[06:46] <tgp> fritsch: i cannot msg to you, until my other nick disappears...
[06:47] <tgp> but dmesg | grep fglrx is empty
[06:47] <tgp> so is lsmod | grep fglrx
[06:47] <Freddy2> dr_willis: sure, but better performance in windows.. in linux i doubt it
[06:47] <rzei> dr_willis: hmm good point
[06:47] <grisha_> Marie: oh sorry, the title is: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.xx-xx-386 or 686. (not the recovery mode)
[06:47] <grisha_> Marie: so the first one
[06:47] <rzei> has anyone tried xgl with kubuntu? is it stable?
[06:47] <Marie_> grisha_ ok and I have twice the same thing
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> rzei: and that diverts alot of mesa stuff to the ati ones
[06:47] <fritsch> tgp: pastebin dmesg |grep flgrx and have a look if fglrx is loaded
[06:47] <Marie_> so do I change both?
[06:48] <dr_willis> Freddy2,  amd+ati brings up a lot of 'future options' :) and now intel is opensourceing some of their drivers...   nvidia better watch out.
[06:48] <grisha_> Marie: Than yes
[06:48] <tgp> fritsch: as i said, neither dmesg nor lsmod contains a message about fglrx
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> rzei: If you have the oss ati drivers working - you can use aiglx with edgy - (you don't need xgl)
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: so you see the problem *G*
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: it is NOT loaded
[06:48] <fritsch> tgp: lol, you are funny
[06:49] <aibb> how can I switch back to having kde? i installed gnome for the libs, but it took over
[06:49] <tgp> fritsch: hey, the Xorg.log shows me that it is loaded...
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> rzei: I would say that would be more problem free (all though not without a few issues) - than using unofficial xgl repositories
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: no, it can use 2d without the fglrx
[06:49] <Freddy2> dr_willis: some recent posts from ati say that won't opensource their drivers, and nvidia neither, so.. now i simply take a look at performance in linux, and the difference is very big
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: sudo echo fglrx >> /etc/modules
[06:49] <Marie_> grisha_ just before I get into all this trouble, how do you know the driver's already installed, cause my kubuntu installation was done without internet connection, so there's a lot of packages I didn't have
[06:49] <grisha_> Marie: but if it crashez during boot. Than Restert. Hit a key, while grub is counting back. Than stand on the first . Press e end delet the options. Than enter and press b
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: and reboot
[06:49] <fritsch> tgp: important the 2x >>
[06:49] <rzei> h3sp4wn: ok.. well actually aiglx is just what i wanted.. thanks
[06:50] <tgp> ok...
[06:50] <grisha_> Marie: it's part of your kernel. As far as i know even kernel 2.4 supported rhine.
[06:50] <dr_willis> Freddy2,  but is the merger even a done deal yet? i aint seen any of the latest news.. of course they can very quickly change their minds also. :) in 2 yrs time Intel may be the big video card maker.
[06:51] <Freddy2> dr_willis: i doubt that, but.. who knows
[06:51] <dhq> dr_willis:
[06:51] <dr_willis> I rember when 3dfx was THE  video card to own. :P
[06:51] <dr_willis> and when Matrox was a big name!
[06:51] <dr_willis> and when '2d acceleration' was a big deal. Lol.
[06:52] <dr_willis> of course if you are not big into games.. video cards are not that big a deal. :)
[06:52] <Marie_> grisha_ did the changes, do I reboot now?
[06:52] <grisha_> yes.
[06:53] <Freddy2> we'll see firstly what happens at quad-core processor market.. probably intel won't have too much free time for entering to the videocard battle if amd does a great job
[06:53] <Freddy2> and of course nvidia is not going to lose this part of the market without fighting
[06:53] <dhq> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21221
[06:53] <dr_willis> then theres the potential for GPU+CPU merging.
[06:54] <Freddy2> and maybe PPU
[06:54] <dr_willis> 11.96% done, estimate finish Sun Aug 20 22:19:15 2006
[06:54] <dr_willis> :-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[06:55] <grisha_> Intel gain some breath with E6X00 series over AMD. But I'm sure that the answer from AMD will come soon.
[06:55] <Freddy2> yeah, i think so
[06:55] <dr_willis> dhq , growisofs is failing? thats like odd.. its failing mid way into the burn?
[06:55] <dhq> dr_willis: so what seems to be the problem
[06:55] <Freddy2> the next stage is quad-core.. we'll see it probably during this year
[06:56] <dr_willis> dhq,  could master the dvd image to a .iso then try butning the image, at a slower speed.
[06:56] <Marie_> grisha_ ifconfig eth0 still doesn't find anything
[06:57] <dhq> dr_willis: will try now wish me all the best
[06:57] <dr_willis> dhq,  or just try a slower burn speed.
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> ibm already has quad-core
[06:57] <dr_willis> quad core is due out like... any time now - aint it?
[06:58] <grisha_> Marie: Try to activate it, as i mentioned before. If there is no Eth0, than I'm out of ideas. Change the card to a RTL one
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> I suppose with 8 cores running gentoo may be not that much of a pain (with 15000 scsi disks)
[06:58] <fritsch> cool, just installed uubuntu on an Asus V6V over internet ...
[06:59] <Freddy2> dr_willis: i think Q4
[06:59] <hara> hello. how can i install development files needed to build kde-applications?
[06:59] <fritsch> everything worked (after some fiddeling), suspend2disk, suspend2ram, card reader
[06:59] <grisha_> h3sp4wn: yeah. Let's dream
[06:59] <grisha_> :)
[06:59] <larson9999> holy smokes!  in k3b this dvd drive shows a cd writing speed of 99x.  is that correct?  i thought there were issues if the cd spun faster than 52x or something like that
[06:59] <Marie_> grisha_ are the wireless cards listed in the same place as the ethernet?
[07:00] <grisha_> hara: install kde-apps with apt-get and it will dl and install the dependencies
[07:00] <Freddy2> 99x? lol xD
[07:00] <dr_willis> i rember 100x cdrom drives (that were marketing)
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> grisha_: I think it may be a feasible thing to have soon
[07:00] <larson9999> well, it actually is burnint at 40x
[07:00] <grisha_> Marie: yes
[07:00] <hara> grisha_: i'm trying to compile tuxdbedit from source because there isn't a .deb nor any other package, only source
[07:01] <larson9999> i was afraid the cd would explode
[07:01] <grisha_> hara: I C
[07:01] <dr_willis> larson9999,  they did a show on that on the MythBusters TV show., :)
[07:01] <hara> apt-get install kdelibs4-dev refuses to install because of some unmet dependencies
[07:01] <dhq> dr_willis: it burns cd without any problem
[07:01] <dr_willis> they spun them up REAL fast.
[07:02] <dr_willis> dhq,  you are saying it buns a cd-r fine. but not a dvd-r?
[07:02] <Marie_> grisha_ ok so there still is no eth0 appearing, only a ra0 which is already activated
[07:03] <dhq> dr_willis: yes
[07:03] <dr_willis> dhq,  could be its using different tools to burn a cd. vs a dvd.
[07:03] <saltro> holas
[07:03] <dr_willis> dhq,  it may be worth while to learn how to do the cd/dvd burning by hand from the shell. so you can better see where the errors are happening.
[07:03] <dhq> no i use k3b for both
[07:04] <dr_willis> dhq,  k3bis just a front end to the shell commands.. IT may be using different commands that you are not noticeing.
[07:04] <grisha_> Marie: Than u need another NIC. You make the change even today. Depending on the shop, where you bought the card. :)  Or the country, cuz' now, everithing is closed in my country. Even non stop shops, and i'm starving to death. :S
[07:05] <Marie_> grisha_ where are you from? don't worry, I can go buy a new one now, it's 1PM
[07:06] <Marie_> but I'm getting very pissed at linux... cause it's gonna be the second time I'm told to change cards cause it's the card's fault, not linux...
[07:06] <DralaFi> whch card?
[07:06] <Marie_> NIC
[07:06] <reinhard> Hi there, when i first installed kubuntu i had only a few choices on grub to start ....i did updates and now i have an endless list of bootoptions...any way to make this shorter again?
[07:06] <grisha_> MArie: I'm from Hungary. 1000. Aug. 20.  The foundation of the Hungarian state, Hungary is established as a Christian kingdom by Stephen I of Hungary.
[07:07] <dr_willis> reinhard,  edit the menu.lst theres optionsin there to set the # of entrys generated
[07:07] <Marie_> and when I bought this DLink my friend told me it would be ok, he didn't stress the RTL thing...
[07:07] <Marie_> happy Hungarian day then
[07:08] <Marie_> how do you celebrate, fireworks?
[07:08] <reinhard> yes, i tried that but i can't save it ...as i don't have the permissions ...i recall this from suse by doing su + password but i can't get it to work at kubuntu
[07:08] <dr_willis> reinhard,  sudo editor /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:08] <grisha_> DLink makes great NIC cards. But I (and linux) prefer  Realtec or INTEL chipset over VIA Rhine
[07:08] <dr_willis> reinhard,  and read about 'sudo'
[07:08] <dr_willis> !sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:09] <grisha_> Marie: Yes. Huge firework show in every city
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: what is the default for editor ? (vim I presume ?)
[07:09] <reinhard> ok, i'll try that and will come back with the outcome thx a lot
[07:09] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  whatever you want. :P
[07:09] <Marie_> grisha_ ok, yeah, my friend had asked me to buy a Realtek, but I couldn't find any!
[07:10] <dr_willis> reinhard,  sudo editor_of_your_choice /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:10] <dr_willis> :)
[07:10] <grisha_> Marie: The most beautiful is in Budapest, on the Bridge called "Lnc-hd"
[07:11] <grisha_> Marie: The Realtec is the vendor of the chipset. The card can be any brand. Genius, DLink, SMC, Asus.
[07:11] <Marie_> grisha_ are you in Budapest?
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> Intel etherexpress cards are good
[07:12] <Marie_> grisha_ huh??? so
[07:12] <grisha_> Marie: Nope, I'm in Pcs, prepairing to my exam.
[07:12] <Marie_> I just ask for a RTL 8139
[07:13] <grisha_> Marie: that will be fine
[07:14] <omeow> Where can I configure my gamepad?
[07:14] <grisha_> Marie: I have 2 RTL8139 working just fine in my flat. One Genius in this computer under Kubuntu, and another Edimax in my bedroom, working under Win and UHU-Linux.
[07:14] <ncaller> Hello, is there a new package to install with dapper other than xine-extracodecs, I'm trying to get all my media stuff up and running and when I do an sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs it can't find the package
[07:14] <draik> jucato, I am using my phone
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> ncaller: libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <DarthFrog> libxine-extracodecs works.
[07:16] <grisha_> Plus I have 3 10MBit D-link with intel chipset in my drawer. :)
[07:16] <draik> this phone is giving me script errors. Jucato, ttyl, when I get home.
[07:16] <ncaller> I get libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[07:17] <DarthFrog> Then you don't have the right archive specified in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[07:17] <DarthFrog> ncaller: Have you run EasyUbuntu?
[07:18] <ncaller> no I haven't run EasyUbuntu
[07:18] <ncaller> oh darnit, I think I'm missing multiverse
[07:19] <DarthFrog> ncaller: Google for it.  It'll install the goodies you want.
[07:19] <ncaller> can anyone cat that line from their sources.list for me for multiverse
[07:19] <ncaller> DarthFrog thanks thats cool
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com main restricted multiverse universe
[07:19] <grisha_> I'll be back soon. I have to have a shower (it's hot here), go downstairs visit an ATM, and pray to be at least on open pizzeria, from where I can order, A ate 3 apples today :S
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> (don't know why people bother with loads of different lines makes it more complicated to read)
[07:20] <ncaller> I didn't know you could put them on the same line
[07:23] <born> re
[07:23] <fdoving> Ryoga85[away] : please disable public away message.
[07:24] <born> O.K. now I have to problems after installing Kubuntu. My network does not work automatically, I have to execute a sudo dhclient manually after booting, what's the reason and how can i solve it?
[07:24] <fritsch> born: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:24] <fritsch> born: auto eth0
[07:24] <fritsch> born: eth0 inet dhcp <- this must be there
[07:25] <born> yes, it's there
[07:25] <born> so any other idea?
[07:26] <born> the second problem is, that I do not get a framebuffer console, everything is text based during boot, i don't want it this way :)
[07:26] <born> and i do not know how to solve this
[07:26] <born> i will reboot and check the behaviour
[07:26] <born> brb
[07:29] <omeow> I started the game "gish" by uncompressing it to a directory and double clicking on a file "gish" that had a gear as an icon. The screen whent all white and I switched to a console to kill the game. Then I switched back to KDE. However, now my mouse cursor does not work anymore. How do I fix this?
[07:29] <omeow> *went
[07:31] <born> ok, it still does not work
[07:32] <fdoving> born: can you please poste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces to http://pastebin.ca ?
[07:33] <TheCobra> hi
[07:33] <TheCobra> I have some strange things here
[07:33] <TheCobra> most of the time i start my kubuntu
[07:33] <born> fdoving: of course
[07:33] <TheCobra> my internetconnection doesn't work
[07:34] <TheCobra> I first have to disable it and enable it   again before it will work
[07:34] <born> http://pastebin.ca/140781
[07:34] <hume> HailandKill, hi again - seems I got it working now..:)
[07:34] <ncaller> thanks I install libxine-extracodes and restarted amarok and mp3s work yay!  Is it true that running compiz/XGL currently hurts performance of some GL enabled and larger applications?
[07:35] <HailandKill> hume, hi yeah. You changed the interfaces file?
[07:35] <nnn0> i can't get proftpd to work on the internet, it works locally, but not externally. i had the same setup with mepis and vsftpd, but now with kubuntu and proftpd, i can't get it to work
[07:35] <fdoving> born: you don't need the address and netmask lines for the 'lo' interface.
[07:35] <hume> HailandKill, yes, deleted all but the lo-lines
[07:36] <born> fdoving: i haven't changed anything, it is default (except deleting interfaces eth1 to eth3 and some wlan stuff)
[07:36] <hume> looks nice now..:)
[07:36] <hume> HailandKill, how
[07:36] <fdoving> born: http://pastebin.ca/140785 should be enought. ok. eth0 looks good to me.
[07:36] <hume> HailandKill, how is it at your front?
[07:37] <born> fdoving: ok, i can reboot now, but it wouldn' make sense, because the eth0 configuration didn't change
[07:37] <HailandKill> hume, I did the same as you. So it works. Unfortunately, it means you cannot have manual configurations and neither does it seem to behave well when swapping between wired and wireless networks.
[07:38] <HailandKill> hume, you still have to disable the wired connection under system settings, which is annoying.
[07:38] <born> the second thing is the framebuffer device...
[07:38] <fdoving> born: is eth0 up but lacking a ip-address? before you run the 'dhclient eth0'.. that is.
[07:38] <hume> HailandKill, yeah, i understood that the manual conf didn't work, but haven
[07:38] <born> fdoving: i have to check this, wait a moment please
[07:39] <hume> HailandKill, haven't tried swapping yet - it should take care of that seamlessly...
[07:39] <HailandKill> Apparently it works fine between wireless to wireless connections, but wired to wireless doesn't work very well.
[07:43] <born> fdoving: yes, it's up and lacking an ip-address
[07:44] <born> btw. I have solved the framebuffer thingie, it was just the missing vga line in the menu.lst
[07:45] <fdoving> born: ok, you can try to add 'post-up /sbin/dhclient eth0' under the eth0 section in the interfaces file. This is not very elegant, you might have a problem with the dhcp-server or something, but you could test if it works or not.
[07:46] <rolando> hi
[07:46] <rolando> how im a supposed to compile a simple helloworld.c with kdevelop?
[07:46] <rolando> b
[07:46] <born> nice hack ;)
[07:47] <born> fdoving: I see that my network is also terribly slow
[07:48] <fdoving> born: could be related..
[07:48] <born> fdoving: I use a nvidia onboard nic
[07:48] <born> nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[07:50] <born> fdoving: ok i found something in the forums, i will read it first
[07:50] <h3sp4wn> It may be easier to just add a pre-up sleep 5 (or something) ifup eth0 should already run dhclient
[07:51] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: good point, and solution :)
[07:53] <born> fdoving: ok there is no solution ;)
[07:54] <fdoving> born: is it a driver problem?
[07:57] <intelikey> multisession and disk at once are mutually exclusive   no?
[07:58] <dr_willis> some times i wish i could slap people asking questions in #ubuntu
[07:58] <dr_willis> :)
 GTK wont open for me....how does that not make sence?
[08:00] <angasule> !mp4
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <angasule> !mp3
[08:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:03] <archangel_> what is a good channel to talk about hardware and building pc's/modding
[08:03] <dr_willis> ##linux perhaps :) or here. lol
[08:03] <archangel_> I didnt want to get off topic 'this being a ubuntu help channel and all'
[08:04] <intelikey> i want a way to change cdw from hardcoded 650m  to 700m disk size.
[08:04] <dr_willis> i doubt if it matters much. :)   heh.
[08:04] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Huh?
[08:04] <archangel_> sweet
[08:04] <dr_willis> intelikey,  you mean hack the cdw drives bios?
[08:05] <intelikey> cdw won't burn more than 650m  on a 700m cd
[08:05] <UQlev> archangel_, if you ask a good off-topic question you probably get an answer anywhere
[08:05] <archangel_> Well, I'm looking for anyone who has worked on an Evo
[08:05] <archangel_> (Compaq Evo)
[08:06] <intelikey> hehhe oh dr_willis the app 'cdw'  lol
[08:06] <fdoving> archangel_: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic are for general discussion.
[08:06] <intelikey> i see where you went   ;/
[08:06] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :)
[08:06] <dr_willis> !info cdw
[08:06] <ubotu> cdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB
[08:07] <dr_willis> its not just a fancy shell script?
[08:07] <born> fdoving: i do not know, a network card related program
[08:07] <intelikey> me look
[08:07] <dr_willis> me tarzan
[08:07] <born> fdoving: setting it to manual network will work, but i do not think that this is a real solution
[08:07] <dr_willis> you space monkey.
[08:07] <fdoving> born: ok, too bad.
[08:07] <pichi> nabend
[08:07] <intelikey> ^?ELF^^^.........^.^.^...0.^^4...t\^.....4. .^.(.^.^.^...4...4.^^
[08:07] <intelikey> ...................................................................^...^......
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:08] <intelikey> funny script ?
[08:08] <dr_willis> those darn elfs!
[08:08] <dr_willis> :)
[08:08] <intelikey> yeah
[08:08] <dr_willis> use the source luke!
[08:08] <trish_> question: i've set "skip" on everything bcm43xx related in discover.conf to prevent this module from loading, but it still loads (before ndiswrapper) so my wifi doesn't work!  what am i missing?
[08:08] <angasule> hmm, how do I play mp4 movies?
[08:08] <dr_willis> modules blacklist file perhaps?
[08:09] <fdoving> trish_: blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:09] <intelikey> i guess that's the only way.   but why would they code it to 650m in the first place?
[08:09] <dr_willis> angasule,  vlc/xine/mplayer witht he  w32codec pack
[08:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  check the homepage for the program?
[08:09] <trish_> aha thanks fdoving
[08:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  perhaps ya are confused about somthing not them. :) or perhaps its just a cruddy progarm
[08:10] <intelikey> it has a home page ???
[08:10] <intelikey> heh
[08:10] <dr_willis> !google cdw homepage
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google cdw homepage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <dr_willis> :(
[08:10] <dr_willis> !google cdw
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google cdw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <angasule> dr_willis: hmm, funny thing it didn't work, then, maybe just a glitch
[08:11] <dr_willis> angasule,  or some funky codec issue.
[08:11] <angasule> hmm, does wget lock files or anything like that?
[08:15] <do> et en francais
[08:15] <intelikey> dr_willis i think you're right it just a poorly writen app  but the kind i like.    think i'll learn to like it much... for cd's it's the cli 'way to go'  :)
[08:15] <isenburk> ki francais ?
[08:16] <dr_willis> intelikey,  rewrite it in comal!
[08:17] <intelikey> has several functions i had'nt fount yet...    very powerful
[08:18] <isenburk> any "french" server for kubuntu ?
[08:18] <dr_willis> http://packages.debian.org/stable/otherosfs/cdw-common
[08:20] <K3B> hello all
[08:20] <pacman> is anyone familiar with getting the latest Java (1.5?) set up on Kubuntu?
[08:20] <intelikey> it's a dead project,   even more reason to like it.....   /me starts getting excited
[08:20] <Xera> argh this is so annoying
[08:20] <Xera> i installed amp
[08:21] <HailandKill> does anyone know if ifdown returns an errorlevel?
[08:21] <Xera> and whenever i try to open a php file, it just goes to download it
[08:21] <intelikey> if it doesn't it should be filed as a bug.
[08:21] <intelikey> HailandKill ^
[08:22] <intelikey> ifdown && echo 0 || echo 1
[08:22] <intelikey> ifdown: Use --help for help
[08:22] <intelikey> 1
[08:22] <isenburk> pacman: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:22] <intelikey> does that answer your question HailandKill ?
[08:23] <HailandKill> intelikey, thanks =) obviously it's my shell script.
[08:23] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:24] <isenburk> ubotu: tell pacman about java
[08:24] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:24] <dr_willis> if the dang thing pops up the eula thing right. :P
[08:25] <mathieu_> Hi
[08:25] <pacman> couldn't find package
[08:25] <dr_willis> Moo mathieu_ !
[08:25] <dr_willis> which package?
[08:26] <pacman> I tried apt-get install sun-java5.bin
[08:26] <dr_willis> Hmm.. where did that come from?
[08:26] <mathieu_> Im having trouble installing kubuntu on my machine. Grub doesnt install correctly I have to type the command manually
 pacman: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:26] <mathieu_> which makes booting the machine quite.... unfriendly :)
[08:26] <Xera> lol
[08:26] <dr_willis> then perhaps sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:26] <Xera> can't anybody answer me? :S
[08:26] <pacman> dr willis: couldn't find package
[08:27] <dr_willis> Xera,  moo!
[08:27] <Xera> Oo
[08:27] <dr_willis> pacman,  you DO have multiverse enabled?
[08:27] <Xera> oooooookk then..
[08:27] <pacman> uhm
[08:27] <dr_willis> To install Java it will require you to have the Multiverse repository enabled.
[08:27] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java   (first thing it says) :P
[08:27] <intelikey> mathieu_ check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:27] <Xera> just use automatix
[08:27] <Xera> does it for you :>
[08:27] <dr_willis> Xera,   it can also trash the whole system for you
[08:28] <dr_willis> if it even works at all. :)
[08:28] <Xera> Oo
[08:28] <dr_willis> plus its a rather trivial thing to install.
[08:28] <dr_willis> if ya got multiverse enabled.
[08:28] <Xera> loool no
[08:28] <Xera> goto their website
[08:28] <Xera> and u just gotta import their key thing
[08:28] <Xera> >.<
[08:29] <dr_willis> Xera,  i am most definatly not trusting anything from the automatix guys :P
[08:29] <pacman> dr. willis: so it's talking about my sources.list?
[08:29] <dr_willis> esp when i can do all i need faster  by hand. :P
[08:29] <intelikey> i thought java was default in dapper  ???
[08:29] <pacman> dr. willis: what do I need to add to the sources.list then
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> that beerorkid repository is definately the devils work
[08:29] <dr_willis> !source
[08:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:31] <intelikey> h3sp4wn perhaps ubuntu main is
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> perhaps (but I don't really want to go down that road)
[08:31] <intelikey> :)
[08:31] <intelikey> nough said
[08:32] <Xera> so... anyone that can help me with my apache/php5 problem?
[08:32] <fdoving> Xera: sure.
[08:32] <Xera> whenever i try to open a php file, it just goes to download it
[08:34] <Ryoga85> hmm
 isphp enabled?
[08:34] <fdoving> Xera: missing AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[08:34] <fdoving> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[08:34] <grisha_> I'm back.
[08:34] <fdoving> Xera: in apache.conf
[08:34] <Xera> fdoving: nope i'm not
[08:35] <Xera> Ryoga85: yes
[08:35] <fdoving> Xera: then force-reload apache.
[08:35] <dr_willis> http://cdw.sourceforge.ne
[08:35] <dr_willis> http://cdw.sourceforge.net
[08:35] <dr_willis> lol
[08:35] <fdoving> Xera: did you 'a2enmod php5' ?
[08:35] <Xera> uh wha?
[08:35] <tayirvadai_vikra> i am trying to play mp3 in amarok but it is not playing it and comes to the end of the playlist
[08:35] <tayirvadai_vikra> can anyone help me
[08:35] <pacman> dr_willis: I'm still lost
[08:36] <dr_willis> pacman,  ive forgotten what you were even doing. :)
[08:36] <fdoving> Xera: run 'sudo a2enmod php5' and force reload apache.
[08:36] <Xera> i can't force reload apache
[08:36] <Xera> Oo
[08:36] <pacman> dr_willis: still trying to get java to work...my live draft is in 20 minutes, and I need Java for it
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I suppose that makes etch god's response
[08:36] <Xera> [-k start|restart|graceful|stop]
[08:36] <Xera> >_>
[08:36] <fdoving> Xera: restart then.
[08:37] <intelikey> h3sp4wn idk  ? !
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: i have: Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload
[08:37] <Xera> wtf
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: you're using apache2ctl ?
[08:37] <fdoving> Xera: use /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[08:37] <dr_willis> pacman,  install synaptic - with 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'    (for a start)
[08:37] <Xera> no idea >.<
[08:37] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra: Use XMMS.
[08:37] <Xera> i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <Xera>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load:
[08:38] <Xera> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:38] <pacman> ok
[08:38] <dr_willis> sudo synaptic
[08:38] <pacman> k
[08:38] <dr_willis> then  check the unsupported and proprietary software checkboxes,    and search for the sun-java5-bin  package and install it
[08:38] <intelikey> i'm still agravated that k3b doesn't work.  }:|
[08:39] <dr_willis> its also possible that the intall may fail..
[08:39] <tayirvadai_vikra> is there any support for mp4
[08:39] <grisha_> intelikey: What about nerolinux? Did it work?
[08:39] <dr_willis> if so...
[08:39] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[08:39] <dr_willis>   sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[08:39] <tayirvadai_vikra> in xmms/xine or any player
[08:39] <fdoving> Xera: are you sure you installed the 'php5' package?
[08:39] <intelikey> yeah it worked.   everything i've tried EXCEPT k3b works
[08:40] <Xera> ofc =.='
[08:40] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra xmms haz mp4 plugin
[08:40] <intelikey> grisha_ i got called to something eariler,  didn't mean to just vanish on y'all
[08:40] <fdoving> Xera: ok, try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall php5;sudo a2enmod php5;sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[08:41] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra  sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-skins xmms-mp4
[08:41] <amachu> Xera: u trying to install php>?
[08:41] <Xera> i have it installed
[08:41] <Xera> but, it doesnt work
[08:41] <Xera> it just downloads the file
[08:41] <amachu> aamachu.blogsopt.com
[08:42] <amachu> Xera: I hav shared my insatallation experience
[08:42] <amachu> Xera: @ aamachu.blogspot.com
[08:42] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra you can also install xmms-flac too. To play .flac files
[08:43] <tayirvadai_vikra> what is .flac file
[08:44] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:44] <dr_willis> hi
[08:44] <Xera> fdoving: nope, didnt fix it
[08:45] <fdoving> Xera: in the guide you followed, there is also a troubleshooting section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad3031
[08:45] <Xera> amachu: that's no help, sorry.. i've already installed amp, and when i try removing it, it doesnt remove anything
[08:45] <Xera> fdoving: oh, didnt notice that >.<
[08:46] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra flac is a lossles audio file format.
[08:46] <pacman> dr_willis: everything in synaptic that is java is installed, but it's still not working
[08:46] <dr_willis> 'is it live or is it flac;
[08:46] <fdoving> Xera: the you've done something special. It is as easy as installing apache and php5, 'apt-get install apache2 php5', then enable the php5 module, 'a2enmod php5', then restarting apache, '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' - then it works on all my kubuntu machines.
[08:46] <grisha_> Acronym of Free Lossless Audio Codec
[08:47] <dr_willis> pacman,  java --version gives you what now?
[08:47] <pacman> 1.4.2
[08:47] <manu__> hi somebody can hel me?
[08:48] <Xera> DAMN IT
[08:48] <Xera> it still doesnt bloody work
[08:48] <Xera> :[
[08:48] <Dannilion> There's a 1.4.2?
[08:48] <dr_willis> pacman,  whats the full output? it saying sun java or jlc or somthing else?
[08:48] <manu__> i try to connect my wifi in kubuntu but i don't can
[08:48] <pacman> java version "1.4.2"
[08:48] <pacman> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[08:49] <Xera> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/index.php
[08:49] <Xera> :f
[08:49] <dr_willis> pacman,  you are using the GNU java . not suns
[08:49] <Xera> wtf
[08:49] <Xera> works now :O!
[08:49] <pacman> I didn't see any sun java
[08:49] <grisha_> tayirvadai_vikra: And download this skin (the most beautiful of all time) unzip it and copy the files to /usr/share/xmms/Skins  http://simon.porta.hu/Themes/MediaPlayers/Almond%20XMMS%20skin/Almond-XMMS4-pack.tar
[08:50] <dr_willis> sun-java5-bin
[08:50] <manu__> somebody can connect the wifi with kubuntu 6.06????
[08:50] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:50] <opsidao> manu__:  I guess many do ;)
[08:50] <manu__> tell me
[08:50] <UQlev> manu__, why not
[08:50] <Dannilion> java is in my list of updates
[08:50] <Dannilion> :D
[08:50] <Xera> thanks.. =D
[08:50] <dr_willis> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[08:51] <opsidao> since the wireless assistant was added it is all much easier
[08:51] <manu__> the problem is KEY
[08:51] <pacman> apt-get install sun-java5-bin....couldn't find package
[08:51] <pacman> with sudo in front...my bad
[08:51] <manu__> are there some other assistant to conect my wifi?
[08:51] <UQlev> manu__, do you use /etc/network/interfaces to setup?