[17:57] <deamoon> thats the line i got
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, what we did is the following:
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+a --> that command said that it shall address "screen"
[17:57] <deamoon> k
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+c --> that command then said to screen that it shall create another virtual terminal
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: maybe you want to monitor your system also a bit
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: there are two tools, top and htop
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: top is installed by default
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: htop is not but is nicer
[17:58] <nikita> hello
[17:58] <deamoon> ok
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now issue:  sudo apt-get install htop
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: let me know when you're done :)
[17:58] <deamoon> k
[17:58] <deamoon> donne
[17:58] <hyper_ch> launch htop by issuing:   htop
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you should get a colorfull screen
[17:59] <hyper_ch> with the processes listed
[17:59] <deamoon> htopyes
[17:59] <hyper_ch> cpu used
[17:59] <hyper_ch> memory usage
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right?
[17:59] <deamoon> yes
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now let's do some screen magic
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: remember, in screen terminal 1 we have rtorretn running
[18:00] <deamoon> its like task manager on windows right
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in screen terminal 2 we have htop running
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now press:   ctrl+a  &  n
[18:00] <deamoon> ok
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that means again (ctrl+a) send command to "screen" and "n" cycle to the next virtual terminal
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you should be back at rtorrent now
[18:00] <deamoon> im in rtorrent
[18:00] <hyper_ch> right?
[18:01] <deamoon> yes
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now press again  ctrl+a  & n
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you're at htop
[18:01] <deamoon> yes
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: for heaven's sake we open now a third virtual terminal
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press again  ctrl+a  &  ctrl+c
[18:01] <deamoon> i did already
[18:01] <deamoon> lol
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and cycle through them again
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: with ctrl+a & n
[18:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: all works, right?
[18:02] <deamoon> :D
[18:02] <deamoon> yes
[18:02] <hyper_ch> now, let's assume you have screen running at home
[18:02] <hyper_ch> and you are at school
[18:02] <hyper_ch> and you want to check how it goes
[18:02] <deamoon> ok
[18:02] <hyper_ch> so you would have to setup a ssh connection to your home computer
[18:02] <r3n4tun1x> fgdfs
[18:02] <deamoon> k
[18:02] <hyper_ch> but we skip that now
[18:02] <deamoon> 1 min plz i need to toilet
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just open a new konsol termianl
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: a real one
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no problem ;)
[18:03] <deamoon> ty
[18:03] <deamoon> :D
[18:03] <r3n4tun1x> Vão todos tomar no meio dos seus cús!!!
[18:03] <r3n4tun1x> gf
[18:04] <hyper_ch> !br | r3n4tun1x
[18:05] <deamoon> im back
[18:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, open a complete new real terminal
[18:05] <deamoon> close that 1?
[18:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, let it running (just for demonstration)
[18:06] <deamoon> ok
[18:06] <deamoon> its open now
[18:06] <r3n4tun1x> vai tomar no cú
[18:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, you being at school, you know that a screen session is already running at home
[18:07] <deamoon> ok
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: to check this, enter this command:   screen -ls
[18:07] <deamoon> at work mate
[18:07] <deamoon> at work
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that will list the screens
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, at work then ;)
[18:07] <hyper_ch> you get something like this:
[18:07] <hyper_ch> There is a screen on:
[18:07] <hyper_ch>         7587.pts-1.xubi (12/27/2008 03:41:30 PM)        (Attached)
[18:07] <hyper_ch> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-hyper.
[18:07] <deamoon> yes
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right?
[18:07] <deamoon> yes'
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, now we detach that screen
[18:08] <deamoon> k
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run:   screen -d
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and it says it detached
[18:08] <deamoon> yes
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and now attach with.   screen -r
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: cycle through the virtual screen termianls to check if everything is right
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+a  &  n
[18:09] <deamoon> ohh it does work
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now just for fun
[18:09] <deamoon> very impresed
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: close both real terminals
[18:09] <deamoon> ok
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and afterwards open a new one
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run again.   screen -ls
[18:10] <deamoon> k
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you see, it's detached now
[18:10] <deamoon> yes
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you can directly attach to it:   screen -r
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that works also, right?
[18:10] <deamoon> i got back
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:11] <deamoon> ye
[18:11] <deamoon> it does
[18:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now you can also manually detach screen by issuing:   ctrl+a  &  d
[18:11] <deamoon> done
[18:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :) now you got the essential tools together
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll give you now some links to "readup"
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in case you have some issues
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: screen:  http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: rtorrent:  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (those two links got me hooked with screen and rtorrent)
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then of course the rtorrent homepage:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[18:13] <ubuntu_> So has anyone tried ext4 here yet?
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: especially the user guide:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide   (remember, mentioning of   ^.... means  ctrl+.....)
[18:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and rtorrent common tasks:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentCommonTasks
[18:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that should help to answer most questions :)
[18:14] <deamoon> it will
[18:14] <deamoon> omg
[18:14] <deamoon> so much info
[18:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: last but not least, here there's also a rtorrent support channel:  #rtorrent  :)
[18:15] <deamoon> ty hyper
[18:16] <gir_> Sorry to bother, is there anyone around who can help me with an nvidia drivers saga (intrepid)?
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now a few other things
[18:16] <deamoon> k
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: .torrent files still try to open with vuze, right?
[18:16] <deamoon> no
[18:16] <deamoon> ohh i dont know
[18:16] <deamoon> now
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: not anymore? you fixed that already?
[18:16] <deamoon> nah
[18:16] <deamoon> w8 i check
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[18:16] <deamoon> lol
[18:17] <deamoon> no its not
[18:17] <deamoon> its ok now
[18:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good... then to use the true power of rtorrent and screen is to be able to ssh into your box
[18:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: are you behind a router?
[18:17] <deamoon> yes
[18:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and do you actually want to be able to connect from everywhere to your box?
[18:18] <deamoon> it would be nice
[18:18] <hyper_ch> good :)
[18:18] <deamoon> ol
[18:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: install openssh-server and denyhosts:    sudo apt-get install openssh-server denyhosts
[18:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: openssh-server is the actual sever that lets you connect from outside
[18:19] <deamoon> ok
[18:19] <hyper_ch> denyhosts is a anti-bruteforce tool
[18:19] <deamoon> like ftp?
[18:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, it will be like a terminal
[18:19] <EnMasse187> guys need uber helps with amarok
[18:19] <deamoon> ok
[18:19] <deamoon> done
[18:19] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: #amarok
[18:19] <EnMasse187> i set it up today
[18:19] <EnMasse187> >_>
[18:19] <EnMasse187> first ubuntu says kubuntu
[18:19] <EnMasse187> now kubunut says amarok
[18:19] <EnMasse187> >_________________________________>
[18:19] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: :)
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: or should I have directed you back at #ubuntu ? ^^
[18:20] <EnMasse187> yes
[18:20] <EnMasse187> please
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187:  #amarok is the best try... there are amarok developers in there
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i went into amarok and said
[18:20] <EnMasse187> need uber helpz
[18:20] <EnMasse187> :)
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: you don't say that
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i think that was why
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i was directed
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: you normally say what the problem is
[18:20] <EnMasse187> what do i say then?
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i also asked in wine, they said how is that wine related
[18:20] <EnMasse187> XD
[18:21] <gir_> is there a channel for nvidia stuff around here?
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: denyhosts will auto-ban ip addresses that try too often to connect to your ssh server without proper logins
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so rule 1 is: have not a simple password
[18:21] <deamoon> ok
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you follow tht, then they cannot just guess the password
[18:22] <deamoon> k
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I mean they would also need to know the username (which is already hard)
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just making sure your box won't get hacked
[18:22] <deamoon> :)
[18:22] <deamoon> lol
[18:22] <hyper_ch> gir_: not sure if it's linux based nvidia
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you normally want to auto-ban IP addresses that try to often to get in ;) and that's what denyhosts does
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the next thing you need to do is to forward port 22 from your router to your box
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I assume your box has a dedicated IP?
[18:23] <deamoon> ok
[18:23] <deamoon> yes
[18:23] <hyper_ch> gir_: no private query
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's all there is needed
[18:23] <brazila> hi
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now you can access your box through ssh
[18:23] <hyper_ch> hello brazila
[18:23] <deamoon> k
[18:23] <brazila> anyone could help
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: at work, you're on windows?
[18:24] <brazila> ?
[18:24] <deamoon> yes
[18:24] <hyper_ch> brazila: mind-reading is not a skill that many people posses... so telling the issue could help
[18:24] <EnMasse187> guys hey
[18:24] <EnMasse187> guess what
[18:24] <EnMasse187> amarok is not helping
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: on windows you have a ssh tool called Putty
[18:24] <deamoon> ok
[18:24] <hyper_ch> gir_:
[18:24] <EnMasse187> how do i pronounce daemon?
[18:24] <EnMasse187> demon?
[18:24] <deamoon> i think i saw it somewere
[18:24] <hyper_ch> gir_: once more a private support request and you're on my ignore list
[18:24] <EnMasse187> da emon?
[18:24] <EnMasse187> day mon?
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: google for "putty"
[18:24] <brazila> i want to download something like musics
[18:24] <EnMasse187> day man?
[18:24] <jussi01> day-mon
[18:25] <brazila> etc
[18:25] <brazila> but
[18:25] <EnMasse187> ahh
[18:25] <brazila> i would
[18:25] <brazila> like to use
[18:25] <jussi01> !enter | brazila
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's just an .exe file
[18:25] <brazila> ok
[18:25] <deamoon> ok
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you would also need to know your home IP
[18:25] <deamoon> ok
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: do you have a static public IP provided by your ISP?
[18:25] <brazila> sorry
[18:25] <deamoon> static
[18:25] <dstar> Hey, is it possible to run KDE apps under Gnome and get sound? I can't run KDE on my laptop right now, because for some reason resizing windows takes an absurdly long time (as in, 5-6 seconds) and googling didn't turn up anything useful, but _lord_ I don't like the gnome apps....
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nice :)
[18:26] <deamoon> lol
[18:26] <brazila> is there any program p2p for linux?
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I mean your public IP on the internet
[18:26] <deamoon> yes
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the one that your ISP assigns to your router
[18:26] <deamoon> it is static
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's also static? cool
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you know it by heart?
[18:26] <Al_nZ> morning people
[18:26] <brazila> ??
[18:26] <jussi01> !limewire | brazila
[18:26] <deamoon> well i used it before on windows for ftp
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: easy :)
[18:27] <deamoon> but now on linux cant
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, putty is simple, just enter the ipaddress
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and connect
[18:27] <deamoon> cos dont know how
[18:27] <brazila> how to install it using apt-get?? like root?
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then at the prompt enter your user name
[18:27] <slow-motion> hi
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and your password
[18:27] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:27] <hector__> hola
[18:27] <deamoon> w8
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you have a terminal like before
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so rtorrent and screen is no problem with putty
[18:27] <deamoon> i look at mine laptop
[18:27] <deamoon> k
[18:27] <deamoon> 1 sec
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: for "ftp" I can recommend WinSCP
[18:28] <deamoon> ok
[18:28] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:28] <alltheworngthing> I'm having some trouble booting, any one have a moment to double check my setup?
[18:28] <deamoon> could u help me to set it up later plz
[18:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: sure
[18:28] <deamoon> k
[18:28] <deamoon> cool
[18:28] <deamoon> so 1 sec
[18:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: let me know when you're back
[18:28] <brazila> anyone knows how to install it using the konsole?
[18:28] <deamoon> i need to load win an laptop
[18:28] <hyper_ch> brazila: sudo apt-get install frostwire
[18:29] <brazila> ok
[18:29] <brazila> thanks but i would like to install Ares P2P
[18:29] <brazila> is there on Linux?
[18:29] <hyper_ch> brazila: no clue what ares is
[18:29] <brazila> oO
[18:30] <brazila> by the way, thank  you very much for help me
[18:30] <hyper_ch> brazila: does ares use it's own p2p protocol? or is it just an edonkey program?
[18:31] <HappySmileMan> brazila: I think ares is only for Windows
[18:31] <brazila> ah
[18:31] <brazila> i thought it
[18:31] <hyper_ch> it might run through wine
[18:31] <brazila> too
[18:31] <hyper_ch> if you really want ares
[18:31] <deamoon> ok will
[18:31] <hyper_ch> but if it's an edonkey program, then just use frostwire
[18:31] <brazila> :S
[18:31] <dstar> ... okay, weird. Last night I wasn't getting sound from konversation, now I am. Oh well, it works.
[18:31] <brazila> didnt install
[18:32] <hyper_ch> brazila: what did not install?
[18:32] <brazila> frostwire
[18:32] <hyper_ch> brazila: why not?
[18:32] <brazila> here said that is impossible
[18:32] <dstar> Does anyone know if there's a fix for the slow window resizing problem? Googling didn't help, and I can't use my KDE session when it takes 5-6 seconds to resize a window.
[18:32] <brazila> to choose
[18:32] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | brazila
[18:33] <hyper_ch> brazila: copy the whole output from the terminal into pastebin
[18:33] <PhilRod> dstar: fwiw, beta nvidia drivers helped things for me, although window resizing is still slowish
[18:33] <PhilRod> (hope that helps, gtg)
[18:33] <deamoon> ok im back
[18:33] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, you got a windows box available for testing?
[18:34] <brazila> :S
[18:34] <deamoon> yes
[18:34] <hyper_ch> deamoon: found putty?
[18:34] <dstar> PhilRod: I've got an ATI 3100...
[18:34] <deamoon> i just forwardingport now to mine pc
[18:34] <deamoon> ye
[18:34] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ;)
[18:34] <brazila> im knew on linux im uusing Kurumin i dont know anything
[18:34] <brazila> sorry
[18:34] <hyper_ch> brazila: just copy the terminal output into pastebin
[18:35] <hyper_ch> brazila: and then give the new url after posting here
[18:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just let me know when you're ready ;)
[18:36] <deamoon> how can write in red
[18:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you just "highlight" someone by entering their name ;)
[18:37] <bazhang> deamoon, type hyp <tab>
[18:37] <brazila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93830/
[18:37] <brazila> ??
[18:37] <deamoon> hyper_ch ok
[18:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in a channel that's busy it's good practice to do... as this way the other will not miss the message
[18:37] <bazhang> deamoon, use tab complete :)
[18:37] <deamoon> oh
[18:37] <brazila> i had to do this?
[18:37] <hyper_ch> brazila: but now paste the output of when you try to install frostwire:
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: pasting is good... but the error output is needed
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: run again...   sudo apt-get install frostwire
[18:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ready now?
[18:38] <brazila> this is in portuguese
[18:38] <brazila> can be ???
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: still paste it
[18:38] <deamoon> 1 sec connction type tcp or udt
[18:38] <deamoon> udp?
[18:39] <hyper_ch> brazila: or you might want to ask in #kubuntu-br
[18:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: tcp
[18:39] <brazila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93831/
[18:39] <deamoon> ok lets try
[18:39] <brazila> uhsauhsauh only me is online
[18:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[18:40] <brazila> there :S bah rsrsrs
[18:40] <hyper_ch> brazila: maybe #ubuntu-br
[18:40] <bazhang> !br
[18:40] <hyper_ch> brazila: I know the problem now
[18:40] <brazila> say it
[18:41] <hyper_ch> frostwire is possibly not in the repositories anymore
[18:41] <brazila> OH so i could try what?
[18:42] <deamoon> it is
[18:42] <hyper_ch> brazila: try amule:   sudo apt-get amule
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what is?
[18:42] <deamoon> frostwire
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you're on 8.04?
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: or 8.10?
[18:42] <deamoon> i think 810
[18:42] <deamoon> i got it trought apt get
[18:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I can't find any frostwire
[18:43] <deamoon> i cant c rtorrent in terminal
[18:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what can't you?
[18:43] <deamoon> w8 i check
[18:44] <brazila> but it isnt like run on windows that virus
[18:44] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:44] <brazila> come whith programs
[18:44] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:44] <deamoon> deamoon@deamoon-desctop:~$ aptitude search frostwire
[18:44] <deamoon> i   frostwire                       - A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer
[18:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: hmmm.... are you sure you're on 8.10?
[18:45] <hyper_ch> brazila: you can download it here:   http://www.getdeb.net/app/Frostwire
[18:45] <deamoon> how to check
[18:45] <jussi01> !versio
[18:45] <jussi01> !version
[18:45] <brazila> but i wont know install it downloading
[18:45] <eli_> hi guys
[18:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run:  lsb_release -a
[18:46] <Psychoholic> i'm having problems with amarok it keeps saying i don't have mp3 support but i installed the restriced drivers pack.
[18:46] <jussi01> hyper_ch: getdeb is not a trusted source ;)
[18:46] <eli_> i'm a newbie, and i need a help with setting my webcam.
[18:46] <deamoon> 8.10
[18:46] <brazila> it for website because im nub
[18:46] <hyper_ch> jussi01: :)
[18:46] <brazila> noob
[18:46] <Psychoholic> do i need to install one for amarok
[18:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: strange... why isn't frostwire showing for me
[18:46] <deamoon> i dont know
[18:46] <deamoon> :D
[18:46] <deamoon> lol
[18:46] <hyper_ch> what repos have you got?
[18:46] <Psychoholic> it was working a few days ago then it just stoped
[18:46] <brazila> anyone?
[18:46] <deamoon> w8
[18:47] <eli_> i've failed to find some step by step instruction on the forum...
[18:47] <hyper_ch> can you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: can you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <v-dogg> the remote desktop client shipped with 8.10 (kde4) was a lot nicer than the one shipped with 8.04 (kde3.5). Is there a way to get that client for kde3.5?
[18:48] <hyper_ch> v-dogg: not really
[18:48] <v-dogg> bugger
[18:48] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93833/
[18:48] <jussi01> Al_nZ: install guarddog for firewall config. check that port 5900 is open.
[18:48] <v-dogg> I switched to 3.5 because it seems a lot stabbler
[18:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's probably in the backports... I have not enabled that
[18:49] <deamoon> dunno
[18:49] <deamoon> u know better
[18:49] <deamoon> lol
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nope... still not showing..hmmm
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll check later why :)
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, you got the windows box ready
[18:50] <deamoon> yes
[18:50] <v-dogg> another thing. is there an terminal/ssh terminal that would make URLs clickable? I'm used to using (n|p)utty on windows :)
[18:50] <deamoon> it ready
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you already downloaded putty?
[18:50] <deamoon> yes
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you tried to connect?
[18:50] <deamoon> no
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: start putty
[18:51] <deamoon> allready
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter the (lan) ip of your linux box
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and hit connect
[18:51] <deamoon> k
[18:51] <deamoon> 1 sec
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (or whatever it says)
[18:52] <deamoon> i got nework error conecection refused
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what IP did you enter?
[18:53] <deamoon> routers ip
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, that does not work
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, depends on the router ;)
[18:53] <deamoon> it says host name or ip address
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but normally, if both are in the lan
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then you need to enter the lan ip of the linux box
[18:54] <deamoon> ok
[18:54] <deamoon> done
[18:54] <deamoon> aske me for login
[18:54] <eli__> hi guys
[18:54] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter your username (of the linux box)
[18:55] <eli__> i'm a newbie, and i need some help in configuring my webcam
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then you'll be asked for the password
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter it (no charachters and stars will be displayed)
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and hit enter
[18:55] <deamoon> what pasword?
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: your user account on the linux box
[18:55] <deamoon> oh
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you login as user of the linux box
[18:56] <eli__> I've really tried to find some step-by-step guide into it, but I failed to find one that work for me,,,
[18:56] <deamoon> done
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: hence your username and password from there
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you're logged in?
[18:56] <deamoon> yes
[18:56] <eli__> Anyone is willing to help?
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, let's do some magic
[18:56] <deamoon> :D
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you remember how to detach screen?
[18:56] <deamoon> creen -r
[18:56] <deamoon> ?
[18:56] <deamoon> screen
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: screen -d (to detach)
[18:56] <deamoon> oh
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and   screen -r  to reattach
[18:57] <deamoon> so in linux terminal now
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: doesn't matter if you try to reattach the screen
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: while it's not detached... you'll just get an error then ;)
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, rtorrent and htop are still running?
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now "from" the windows box?
[18:57] <deamoon> k
[18:58] <eli__> Hm, anyone?
[18:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so this works?
[18:58] <deamoon> yes
[18:58] <deamoon> i thinks so
[18:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:58] <deamoon> detached
[18:58] <deamoon> it
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, if you setup portforwarding on the router correctly, you can now login from work also
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: next is to download winscp --> http://www.winscp.com
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's free and open source software
[18:59] <deamoon> i  does work
[18:59] <deamoon> thats on win box
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes, that's on the windows box
[18:59] <eli__> hi guys, I need some help with my webcam.
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's like a ftp client - but works over a ssh connection
[19:00] <deamoon> ohh
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pro: all the transferred packages are encrypted
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: con: it's a bit slower due to encryption and package overhead
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pro: it works great and you only need to open one port to use ssh with putty and winscp :)
[19:00] <deamoon> but will mine parents be able to connectto it
[19:00] <deamoon> ?
[19:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: they will also need need winscp and an account (or use your account)
[19:01] <deamoon> ok
[19:01] <deamoon> i sec than
[19:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but if you want setup with more people, you might be better off to setup a real ftp server
[19:02] <eli__> is anyone alive here?
[19:02] <hyper_ch> eli
[19:02] <deamoon> u mean another p?
[19:02] <deamoon> pc
[19:02] <hyper_ch> eli__: no clue... my webcam works out of the box
[19:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, not another computer... just another "server" on the box you have now
[19:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ssh is also a "server"
[19:03] <deamoon> ok
[19:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: a "server" in linux is just a program that waits to "server" something to someone that enters a request (e.g. like a webserver, ssh-server, ftp-server, ts2-server, vnc-server, .....)
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's confusing as dedicated boxes are also called servers
[19:04] <deamoon> ok
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you got winscp?
[19:04] <deamoon> i need it just on win box?
[19:04] <deamoon> or on linux
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes
[19:04] <deamoon> k
[19:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just windows
[19:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: on the linux box you already have the ssh-server running
[19:06] <deamoon> user interface must be
[19:06] <deamoon> ?
[19:07] <deamoon> explorer or norton comander
[19:07] <deamoon> ?
[19:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I prefer norton commander
[19:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: this will give a 2-pane window
[19:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: where one pane is the "remote" and one the "local" view
[19:08] <deamoon> ok done
[19:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now try to connect
[19:09] <deamoon> same as on putty?
[19:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes
[19:09] <eli__> hi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?
[19:10] <deamoon> ok done
[19:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :) should be simple to use, right?
[19:10] <elitrou> hi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?
[19:10] <hyper_ch> !patience
[19:10] <deamoon> ohh yes
[19:10] <deamoon> u know i was looking for this
[19:10] <deamoon> for ages
[19:11] <deamoon> itssso good no
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, now I generally don't trust other users
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so I don't give out my account details - not even to my parents
[19:11] <deamoon> xexexe
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so I use MySecureShell
[19:11] <deamoon> how to greate accounts
[19:11] <deamoon> ?
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: have a look at that:   http://www.howtoforge.com/mysecureshell_sftp_debian_etch
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it works also for ubuntu
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nad I think mysecureshell is in the repos
[19:12] <player775> hello.. can anyone give list with graphics card supported in latest kubuntu ?
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so basically for other users I make a seperate account, make a common "home" folder for them and restrict them with mysecureshell
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's too much right now to explain that
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just have a look at that howto and explore it a bit :)
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'm sure you can find uot
[19:14] <deamoon> ok
[19:14] <deamoon> i c
[19:14] <deamoon> im so excited
[19:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[19:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, you remember when we set the maximum upload in rtorrent?
[19:14] <deamoon> yes
[19:15] <deamoon> i thinks so
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, generally it's adviced to set it to 80-90% of your amx upload
[19:15] <deamoon> lol
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: as you have 2.5mbit you could go to 90%
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right now it's set to 80%
[19:15] <deamoon> ok
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's up to you on how you want to tweak it
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: leave it at 80% now and see how it goes :)
[19:15] <deamoon> i need to edit that file
[19:16] <deamoon> k
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and if you are using private torrent trackers (which are evil IMHO) then disable DHT
[19:16] <deamoon> ye i need that
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: as DHT will render the whole private tracker thing useless
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's all in the .rtorrent.rc config :)
[19:18] <deamoon> so i just need to write desible
[19:18] <deamoon> dht
[19:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes ....
[19:18] <deamoon> write me full command plz
[19:18] <deamoon> to open taht
[19:19] <deamoon> plz
[19:19] <hyper_ch> dht = off
[19:19] <deamoon> .rtorrent.rc config
[19:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just change   dht = auto   to    dht = off
[19:19] <deamoon> ok
[19:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and restart rtorrent
[19:19] <deamoon> but to pen this .rtorrent.rc config
[19:20] <deamoon> lol
[19:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: kate ~/.rtorrent.rc
[19:20] <deamoon> ty
[19:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's a hidden file because it start with a .
[19:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, good luck with rtorrent :) it's quite powerfull if you use it a bit
[19:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and very good on memory usage
[19:22] <cuniceta> ciao
[19:22] <deamoon> yee
[19:22] <deamoon> ty very much fella
[19:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I hope you have bookmarked the few pages I gave you before?
[19:22] <deamoon> that ftp is a miracle for me
[19:22] <deamoon> all of them mate
[19:22] <deamoon> all
[19:23] <deamoon> 1 more thing
[19:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes?
[19:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: to to close screen?
[19:23] <deamoon> how can i make firefox be as primary web browser
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: KMenu --> applications --> system --> system settings
[19:24] <deamoon> cos i geting konquerer opening all windows
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and then "default applications"
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: select "web browser" and then select
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: "in the following browser" and enter:   firefox
[19:25] <deamoon> ok ty
[19:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: found it?
[19:25] <deamoon> got to look at it cos is diferent
[19:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: are you in the system settings?
[19:26] <deamoon> yes
[19:26] <hyper_ch> in the "general" tab
[19:26] <hyper_ch> the second row "Personal"
[19:26] <deamoon> when u click on web browser
[19:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, what then?
[19:27] <deamoon> theres 2 options
[19:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: select the lower one
[19:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: where you can type "firefox" in it
[19:27] <deamoon> ohh
[19:27] <deamoon> im so dumb
[19:27] <hyper_ch> ^^
[19:28] <deamoon> lets test it
[19:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and then of course press "apply"
[19:28] <deamoon> yes
[19:28] <deamoon> yes
[19:28] <hyper_ch> ^^
[19:29] <deamoon> ok
[19:29] <hyper_ch> enjoy :)
[19:29] <deamoon> ty wery much
[19:40] <runpain2> how do I do the Option "NoLogo" "True" in xorg.conf
[19:42] <crimsun> runpain2: for which video driver?
[19:42] <runpain2> nvidia
[19:42] <crimsun> runpain2: you have to create the appropriate stanzas, then
[19:42] <runpain2> greek to me
[19:43] <runpain2> can you pm me step by step please
[19:43] <crimsun> i'm just waiting on pastebin
[19:44] <runpain2> thanks crimsun
[19:45] <crimsun> runpain2: see http://pastebin.ca/1294588
[19:47] <runpain2> crimsun,  do i add this to the xorg.conf
[19:48] <runpain2> and how do i do that i am a noobe
[19:49] <luisfsm> holaaaaaaaaaa
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: I gave you my entire xorg.conf
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: you likely don't need the extra options that i have
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: but that's the syntax
[19:58] <runpain2> ok thanks will try that Section "Device" Identifier"Configured Video Device" Boardname	"NVIDIA GeForce 7 Series" Busid	"PCI:0:18:0"Driver "nvidia" Screen 0 Vendorname "NVIDIA"
[19:59] <runpain2> see i have the geforce 7 series
[20:02] <runpain2> brb
[20:03] <snarkster> how do you configure firefox for itmss protocol?
[20:03] <snarkster> !itmss
[20:04] <snarkster> anyone know anything about itmss?
[20:05] <jone_> I just installed kubuntu 6.10, and I want to upgrade to the latest version.. I am having trouble making apt-get update work, I get loads of errors like 404 and such when I try
[20:05] <jone_> also Adept doesn't show any upgrade possibilities
[20:05] <snarkster> your trying ti upgrade to old a version
[20:06] <snarkster> there are some changes you need to make, but sorry Im not sure which ones you need to make
[20:06] <snarkster> !upgrade
[20:06] <Dr_Willis_AAO> 6.10?   You Might want to go download a newer release --  Unless that was a typo ... :)
[20:06] <runpain2> crimsum that work i just added the options line no logo  true and when i booted  up no logo
[20:07] <snarkster> or read that page ubottu just showed
[20:07] <runpain2> Thanks for showing me that little trick
[20:07] <snarkster> no logo?? howto
[20:09] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i alwyas enable the nvidia logo :) i want to see it.. to be sure my drivers are being used
[20:10] <jone_> yes it was 6.10 unfortunately
[20:10] <snarkster> oh.. nvidia logo.
[20:10] <snarkster> jone follow that link ubottu posted and it will help you
[20:10] <snarkster> just so you know ahead of time you have to upgrade several times
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  you are going to be llooking at like.. err.. several 100+mb of updates..  sort of like downloading each install cd, over agbain.
[20:11] <jone_> likely to get messy?
[20:11] <snarkster> no not really.. just take some time
[20:11] <jone_> just having issues with the cd burner
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  i would STRONGLY suggest getting a newer iso/release issue.  You can make a bootable/install able thimbdrive with 'unetbootin'
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> No cd needed :)
[20:11] <snarkster> right well there are several ways to just use an iso and a usb flash drive
[20:12] <jone_> isn't the usb flash drives tricky as hell?
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  run unetbootin, point it to the iso , clock go....
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> click go...
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> :)
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> wait a few min.. poof. bootable usb thumbdrive
[20:13] <snarkster> oh no!!! I use mine all the time to assist people in recovery issues.
[20:13] <snarkster> i created mine from pendrivelinux.com
[20:13] <jone_> the javascript on kubuntu.com is causing my konqueror to hang :/
[20:13] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i got a 4gb thumbdrive with persistant storage - made via the usb-boot-media tool in 8.10
[20:13] <jone_> but ok, thanks a lot, I will download a new release now
[20:13] <snarkster> Dr_Willis_AAO Awesome
[20:14] <snarkster> jone good luck
[20:14] <jone_> thanks all of you :)
[20:14] <runpain2> laters folks
[20:14] <snarkster> jone somebody will be here if you need help
[20:17] <snarkster> how do you force logoff a user through a SSH connection?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis_AAO> snarkster,  kill their shells is one way :)
[20:17] <snarkster> i want to update my sons machine but it says that someone else is using the update process..
[20:18] <snarkster> I dont see any adept or synaptic processes in the pgrep
[20:18] <Dr_Willis_AAO> snarkster,   f may be easier to just make machine reboot.
[20:18] <snarkster> true
[20:18] <snarkster> but if he is updating then that will screw up the update
[20:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> ask him eot look at the screen i guess and see whats running?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> if no processes are running - it maybe a bad lock file. or somthing
[20:19] <snarkster> true
[20:20] <snarkster> but then again its his machine and I could just not worry bout it. :)
[20:21] <snarkster> OT wow it was cold last night
[20:21] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i find ubuntu  rather stable in that stuff. :) perhaps a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a'  might be needed later.. perhaps not.. hard to tell
[20:27] <jussi01> !aptfix | snarkster
[20:36] <White_Pelican>  in 4.2 beta 2 for Intrepid, I seem to have lost my icon that says there are software updates available. How do I get that back?
[20:41] <lamer> abend
[20:46] <CTShadow> in konqueror, my menu-bar (where file, edit, ... are located) is gone. how do i get it back?
[20:46] <SSJ_GZ> CTShadow: ctrl + m
[20:49] <CTShadow> SSJ_GZ: thanks, you saved my day ;)
[20:49] <SSJ_GZ> Hehe :)
[20:49] <jenni_more> ola
[20:49] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd?
[20:50] <martijn81> will 9.04 come with ext4 filesystem?
[20:53] <yosh_> Salut
[20:53] <martijn81> hi yosh_
[20:54] <yosh_> J'ai un léger problème avec KDE, je n'arrive pas à me connecter sur Internet avec le Wi-fi.
[20:54] <martijn81> !france
[20:54] <yosh_> Oops, I'm sorry.
[20:56] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd?
[20:57] <Metalman> need help
[20:57] <martijn81> Metalman: just tell
[20:59] <Metalman> just installed edubuntu and cant change the ubuntu desktop
[20:59] <Metalman> hardy ubuntu
[20:59] <martijn81> Metalman: and what if you reload X?
[20:59] <martijn81> crtl+alt+backspace
[21:00] <osman> #ZURNA
[21:00] <Metalman> i installed conpiz and nothing
[21:01] <martijn81> Metalman: you should be able to tell you GDM to choose edubuntu
[21:01] <martijn81> your
[21:04] <Pete21> Hi
[21:04] <Pete21> I have installed kdevelop on ubuntu 8.10
[21:04] <Pete21> and the konsole is not enabled, it's just a gray area
[21:05] <cuznt> !kdevelop
[21:05] <Pete21> seems like several people are having this issue as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6425236
[21:05] <cuznt> !kdevelope
[21:05] <cuznt> dont worry
[21:05] <cuznt> they will fix it
[21:06] <Pete21> Do anyone know how to solve it?
[21:11] <metalman1673> need help
[21:12] <metalman1673> need help with hardy ubuntu
[21:12] <martijn81> Metalman: you should be able to tell your GDM to choose edubuntu
[21:13] <metalman1673> how to that
[21:14] <metalman1673> how do i do that
[21:14] <martijn81> metalman1673: you can choose from your DesktopManager
[21:15] <martijn81> just pull some menu's (i do not know the names of it)
[21:16] <metalman1673> dont have desktop manager
[21:16] <metalman1673> how to install it
[21:17] <martijn81> you probably have, you will get there once you do ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:19] <metalman1673> i did the ctrl+alt+backspace and all it was turn off
[21:19] <floh> Hi, which directory are the firmware for b43 stored?
[21:19] <martijn81> metalman1673: then choose log out there
[21:20] <martijn81> you should get on the DM then
[21:20] <metalman1673> i loged back in and nothing
[21:20] <metalman1673> how can i install the DM
[21:28] <Styx993> hello
[21:28] <Styx993> is there any reason why linux would refuse to connect when kde isnt running?
[21:30] <Evolution2> i just got yakuake 2.9.4 from the kde apps but the version on the sources is only 2.9.3. there seem to be no config file in folder. any help is appreciated
[21:32] <ubuntu_> hello
[21:36] <ert3> Hey I tried to install 8.04 over 8.10
[21:36] <ert3> and for some reason I still have 8.10
[21:36] <Evolution2> you cant degrade
[21:36] <Evolution2> unless you delete the partition conpletely
[21:45] <jone_> "A write error occured" - Goddamnit it never works when I try to burn cd's with K3b (I guess it's a hardware problem)
[21:46] <Evolution2> jone_: i think so
[21:46] <jone_> and when I installed UNetbootin from a .deb file i have no idea how to start it
[21:53] <ert3> So if I where to manually make the partitions that would remove the old ones so I could down grade?
[21:53] <Evolution2> right
[21:53] <Evolution2> pop in a live ubuntu live cd
[21:53] <ert3> cant
[21:54] <ert3> less than 384
[21:54] <Evolution2> oh
[21:54] <Evolution2> hmm
[21:54] <Evolution2> thats a problem
[21:54] <ert3> I told the alt install CD to do a guided partitioning
[21:54] <Evolution2> hmm
[21:54] <Evolution2> i was gonna suggest partition editor
[21:55] <Evolution2> remove it and reinstall with the older version live cs
[21:55] <Evolution2> cd
[21:55] <ert3> hmmm
[21:55] <ert3> I could boot up
[21:55] <ert3> manually delete all partitions
[21:55] <ert3> reboot
[21:55] <ert3> do it again to be doubly sure
[21:55] <ert3> then install
[21:56] <Evolution2> yea
[21:57] <ert3> or I could just go DOD on the fucker and 7 pass rape the drive
[21:57] <ert3> that would get it clean
[21:58] <Evolution2> i dont know about that
[21:58] <Evolution2> but i would suggest the first idea
[21:59] <jussi01> !ohmy | ert3
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Anyone here use KDevelop yet? I'm building it now, was wondering how stable it is
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Though I guess I can find out soon enough anyway
[22:02] <snarkster> jone: it should be in settings
[22:02] <snarkster> jone sorry my bad its under system
[22:04] <snarkster> jone did you find it?
[22:11] <snarkster> jone_ please to install usb-creator this will create an installable usb flash drive disk
[22:11] <linux__> oi
[22:13] <snarkster> oi
[22:13] <linux__> oi
[22:14] <jussi01> linux__: can we help you with something?
[22:16] <jone> I installed 6.10 because I only had a very old CD - Now I am unable to burn a new CD because of hardware issues, is there any way to start installation from 6.10 by mounting the ISO file of the 8.10 version?
[22:16] <hyper_ch> no
[22:19] <hyper_ch> jone: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/
[22:19] <hyper_ch> but it's not supported anymore
[22:19] <jone> what do you mean? i just want to upgrade
[22:20] <jone> or rather, just install 8.10
[22:20] <PuRA> oi
[22:20] <jone> I heard upgrading from 6.10 to 8.10 would be a pain
[22:20] <hyper_ch> jone: ah, you don't want to reinstall 6.10
[22:20] <jone> I am unable to burn a new cd from this computer, and when I burn from a different computer (also different brand), it appears as an "empty cd" in the drive
[22:20] <p_quarles> jone: it would be impossible at this point
[22:21] <hyper_ch> jone: do you have a usb pendrive?
[22:21] <p_quarles> jone: if you can't burn a CD, you'll need to look into an alternative way of getting it
[22:21] <snarkster> do you have a flash drive?
[22:21] <p_quarles> jone: if a friend can burna CD for you, that would be great; otherwise, a flash drive, a network boot (would require another computer) or you'll have to request a CD from Canonical
[22:22] <jone> Yes I have a flash drive, and yes I installed Unetbootin or what it was called.. but when I choose it during startup I get weird behaviour.. the screen starts flickering and the first options dialog is scrolling through the monitor in an intense speed (impossible to read what the options are)
[22:22] <PuRA> ny brasilians?
[22:22] <jone> I have several other computers available
[22:22] <p_quarles> !br | PuRA
[22:22] <hyper_ch> jone: PXE could also be an option
[22:22] <hyper_ch> jone: but that depends on the computer you try to install to
[22:23] <snarkster> jone you can use a 1 gig flash drive to create a installable install
[22:23] <PuRA> #urubuntu-br
[22:23] <PuRA> ok?
[22:23] <p_quarles> PuRA: type /join #ubuntu-br
[22:23] <snarkster> or you can download the iso of 8.10 and then goto pendrivelinux.com to learn how to create a installable flashdrive that way
[22:24] <snarkster> or install usb-creator to create a installable flash drive
[22:26] <hyper_ch> jone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[22:27] <jone> hyper_ch: that looked interesting, thanks
[22:28] <hyper_ch> jone: or a step back:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[22:32] <snarkster> or very complex..
[22:32] <snarkster> usb creator will work easily and only uses a 1 gig flash drive that if your computer can boot from usb will allow you to install
[23:13] <emma> any ideas how to get knetworkmanager to actually connect to a signal that it sees?
[23:14] <emma> i have an UNSECURED wifi here in the house, kubuntu sees it, but i can't make anything connect.
[23:14] <emma> is there perhaps a way to do this with a cli tool or something?
[23:15] <cllaudyu> can someone help me with Konversation how can i add another irc server to it?
[23:16] <xjjk> emma: AFAIK, no
[23:16] <cllaudyu> and how can i save it
[23:16] <xjjk> cllaudyu: should be easy... what are you having problems with?
[23:16] <HappySmileMan> cllaudyu: File > Server List > New...
[23:16] <emma> there must be a way to connect to a wifi signal without a gui
[23:16] <emma> iwconfig maybe?
[23:16] <xjjk> emma: well, yes, but with knetworkmanager
[23:16] <xjjk> or network manager in general
[23:16] <emma> is knetworkmanager just broken in kubuntu then?
[23:16] <cllaudyu> first i want to find out how to send a messange to a nickname on main chat
[23:17] <xjjk> emma: not likely... it's probably something characteristic to that wifi network/your machine
[23:17] <cllaudyu> i don't want to write a nick every time
[23:17] <crimsun> emma: sure, you can use iwconfig (from wireless-tools) or wpasupplicant
[23:17] <crimsun> emma: does knetworkmanager spit out any debug info/
[23:18] <emma> well this signal is not secured. and knetworkmanager DOES see it there, it shows the ESSID and strong signal but there is no indication of how to connect.
[23:18] <xjjk> emma: er, click the menu entry?
[23:18] <xjjk> what happens when you try to select it
[23:18] <cllaudyu> what is Bookmarks for in Konversation? it saves the irc channel?
[23:18] <emma> what do you mean click the main entry?
[23:18] <emma> when i select it, nothing happens.
[23:18] <xjjk> check for debug info..
[23:19] <xjjk> usually in /var/log/messages or syslog
[23:19] <emma> it's just about the most outrageous thing i've seen.
[23:20] <Guest80251> eagles0513875: not to bad for a pIII
[23:21] <crimsun> emma: tried `tail -F /var/log/daemon.log' in a separate Konsole simultaneously?
[23:21] <emma> i'll give it another chance but i think it's pretty hopeless.
[23:22] <emma> the difficult thing is, i'm dual booting here so i'm using windows to chat with you now. Whatever advice you give I have to restart and try it in kubuntu.
[23:22] <xjjk> ugh
[23:22] <emma> and if it doesn't work i have to restart and boot all over again to come back here.
[23:22] <emma> so it sounds like 'try to find bug report'
[23:23] <xjjk> emma: thanks for mentioning... you probably want to try to find a few different ways to get online
[23:23] <xjjk> and try to fix within linux rather than rebooting all the time
[23:23] <crimsun> i recommend virtualbox + kubuntu
[23:23] <emma> there's no way.
[23:23] <xjjk> emma: how do you know...
[23:23] <xjjk> have you tried connecting via the CLI/raw wpa_supplicant?
[23:23] <xjjk> I actually use wpa_supplicant myself... knetworkmanager isn't there for me yet
[23:24] <cllaudyu> it's surprising for me to see everything working fine without crashes
[23:24] <xjjk> emma: setting up wpa_supplicant is a bit of a headache, though
[23:25] <crimsun> using iwconfig is fairly painless, however.
[23:25] <cllaudyu> i spoked to soon A Fatal Error Occurred
[23:25] <xjjk> mm, yah, it's a network without any encryption/auth, correct emma?
[23:25] <cllaudyu> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[23:26]  * xjjk continues to use KDE 3.5.9 in hardy waiting for KDE 4.2
[23:26] <cllaudyu> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1661 MHz (3323 bogomips), HD: 2/8GB, RAM: 205/248MB, 114 proc's, 18.47min up
[23:26] <jone> I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux - (did it manually) and it worked fine, booted the installer, but when I choose where I want it installed, the original sda disk is gone, so i am unable to install it to /dev/sda1
[23:28] <jone> but it is visible in /proc/partitions
[23:28] <emma> xjjk: yes no security
[23:29] <xjjk> emma: the braindead way to connect with iwconfig (not robust)
[23:29] <xjjk> exit knetworkmanager
[23:29] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig # check what your wireless if is
[23:29] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your essid" # if wlan0 was your wireless interface
[23:29] <emma> that sounds like it's workable.
[23:30] <xjjk> sudo dhclient wlan0 # fetch IP via DHCP, if using DHCP
[23:30] <emma> put the essid in quotes?
[23:30] <xjjk> this isn't robust at all, and it not working does not mean you cannot get it to work
[23:30] <xjjk> if the essid contains a space, yes
[23:30] <emma> it does not.
[23:30] <xjjk> without quotes is fine
[23:31] <emma> i'll try iwconfig
[23:31] <xjjk> emma: if you want to go the wpa_supplicant route...
[23:31] <xjjk> emma: hold
[23:31] <emma> okay
[23:32] <xjjk> emma: so, Debian/Ubuntu have a networking mode called wireless roaming
[23:32] <xjjk> you configure it all via text files
[23:32] <xjjk> and it uses wpa_supplicant, no GUI
[23:32] <xjjk> not that you need one...
[23:32] <xjjk> if you've a new network, you add to a config file
[23:33] <xjjk> and wpa_supplicant automatically connects if in range
[23:33] <emma> knetworkmanager needs to be fixed.
[23:33] <xjjk> eh it needs to be made more reliable
[23:33] <xjjk> and report errors
[23:33] <xjjk> not that Windows or OS X are any better
[23:34] <xjjk> you'll get an error "can't connect" but usually there's little you can do about it
[23:35] <xjjk> emma: see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[23:35] <xjjk> read the details on setting up "roaming mode"
[23:35] <SJr|Nbook> Is there some reason I get an error "Invalid Argument 'Ad-Hoc'" error when I try to issue iwconfig ath0 mode Ad-Hoc
[23:36] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: the atheros driver is a PITA, and does stuff differently
[23:36] <SJr|Nbook> Ah
[23:36] <xjjk> the error is self-explanatory... the driver doesnt support ad-hoc model like that
[23:36] <SJr|Nbook> what should I do?
[23:36] <xjjk> there's this other way to do it, not via iwconfig
[23:36] <xjjk> see madwifi's website
[23:37] <SJr|Nbook> Should I try and use the ndiswrapper?
[23:37] <xjjk> I've never used ndiswrapper myself but stories tell me no, avoid it if you can
[23:37] <xjjk> linux-native drivers will almost always be better
[23:38] <jone> Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot
[23:39] <SJr|Nbook> thanks xjjk
[23:39] <Hydrant2> Hello all... strange issue with Kubuntu 8.10... when I put in a CD, isn't it supposed to come up with a menu of actions?
[23:39] <Hydrant2> it doesn't for me on this install, and I think I might be missing a package or something is wrong
[23:42] <venom_> c'est fr ici
[23:42] <SJr|Nbook> xjjk is there something else I need to do to be able to see the ad-hoc network after it's up as adhoc
[23:42] <genii-around> venom_: Non.  #kubuntu-fr
[23:42] <venom_> lol
[23:42] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: don't think so... I haven't done this in a long time
[23:42] <venom_> tu comprend bien le français pour un us
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmm maybe I'll try this in windows first
[23:43] <xjjk> you followed all the instructions on the madwifi website right?
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> Yeah
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> it's up
[23:43] <genii-around> venom_: Canadian
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> but it's not broadcasting
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> and I can't join it.
[23:43] <venom_> tu connais pas moobu par azard
[23:44] <genii-around> venom_: English only here svp
[23:44] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: don't think I can help you with that... check madwifi's support?
[23:45] <Roey> hi
[23:45] <Roey> question
[23:45] <Roey> I can't get sound working after I rebooted.  I get this:  http://pastebin.com/m77920f82.  What's the issue, does anyone know?
[23:46] <venom_> hum pas facille , ho to the install Moobu ?
[23:46] <chop> hi
[23:47] <Roey> hiiiiii
[23:47] <crimsun> sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[23:47] <crimsun> pastebin the output
[23:47] <willy> whats a good programe for yahoo
[23:47] <crimsun> willy: meaning chat? try kopete.
[23:48] <willy> i got  friend in yahoo
[23:48] <willy> and i need a good programe
[23:48] <Roey> crimsun:  heya!
[23:48] <willy> is that with  voice
[23:49] <kid> hi all
[23:49] <Roey> crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/m4814d30c
[23:49] <Roey> crimsun:  yeah I did that before, had no idea what to kill
[23:50] <crimsun> Roey: sudo pkill timidity
[23:50] <Roey> I tried.
[23:50] <Roey> one sec.
[23:50] <Roey> still no go, crimsun
[23:50] <metalman1673> how can i change from the gome desktop to the kde desktop??????
[23:50] <Roey> brb
[23:51] <crimsun> Roey: what are you testing to determine "no go"?
[23:51] <metalman1673> can anyone give me a hand
[23:51] <crimsun> metalman1673: did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:52] <emma> im back.
[23:52] <xjjk> emma: how'd it go?
[23:52] <emma> xjjk -- i wsa just over to kubuntu again, when i did sudo iwconfig it did not list any valid signals.
[23:52] <xjjk> emma: it did not list any network interfaces
[23:53] <xjjk> ?
[23:53] <crimsun> you don't need to wait til it's listed if you know the essid
[23:53] <emma> xjjk: yeah not really.
[23:53] <emma> but it's eth1
[23:53] <xjjk> emma: that's odd..
[23:53] <xjjk> oh, well OK
[23:53] <xjjk> did the rest of the steps work?
[23:54] <emma> its eth1 i can tell that from knetwork manager which does find the signal and even shows that it's strong but then the icon never lights up and says it's disconnected.
[23:54] <emma> kjjk no they did nothing.
[23:54] <Roey> crimsun:  mpg123
[23:54] <xjjk> emma: what did trying to get an IP via DHCP do?
[23:54] <xjjk> time outs?
[23:54] <xjjk> you should get errors
[23:55] <xjjk> if something is wrong
[23:55] <emma> i didn't try that, i don't remember what to do there.
[23:55] <crimsun> Roey: did you actually kill timidity?
[23:55] <xjjk> emma: it was the last line I gave you, sudo dhclient eth1
[23:55] <crimsun> Roey: i.e., do you need to sudo /etc/init.d/timidity stop ?
[23:55] <Roey> yes
[23:55] <Roey> yes and mpg123 still gives me those errors
[23:55] <emma> xjjk, just sudo dhclient eth1 ?
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: yes
[23:56] <daz_> Hi everyone. I want to use rdiff-backup, and I was just wondering if, as well as replacing changed/removed files, it removes file that weren't originally backed up (like a system restore point)
[23:56] <willy> hey any good yahoo programes to chat
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: without having run that, you'd not have an IP address
[23:56] <Roey> hey emma
[23:56] <emma> anything else i should type there because every time i try i have to reboot twice.
[23:56] <xjjk> the iwconfig step only associates with a wireless network
[23:56] <metalman1673> how can i change from gome to kde
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: just to recap...
[23:56] <Hydrant2> when people here put in a CD, does it pop up a menu like in KDE 3 for them (on Intrepid) ?
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig eth2 essid "your essid"
[23:57] <emma> but it's eth1 isn't it>
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig eth2 # make sure eth2 it using that essid (may not necessarily be connected)
[23:57] <xjjk> er, sorry, eth1
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo dhclient eth1
[23:57] <xjjk> to get an IP
[23:57] <emma> in that order?
[23:57] <xjjk> you should have Internet access after that
[23:57] <xjjk> yes
[23:57] <daz_> metalman1673: Do you want to completely ditch Gnome, or have both Gnome AND KDE available?
[23:57] <emma> okay.
[23:57] <xjjk> err, blah, and make sure you exit knetworkmanager
[23:57] <emma> i'm going to write it down in pencil.
[23:57] <xjjk> before doing any of this
[23:58] <willy>     here dude              http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[23:58] <xjjk> (1) turn off knetworkmanager (2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "your essid" (3) sudo dhclient eth1
[23:58] <xjjk> that is the minimum
[23:58] <willy> its tell u how to do it
[23:58] <Roey> crimsun:  yes and mpg123 still gives me those errors
[23:59] <crimsun> Roey: is timidity still running, though?
[23:59] <crimsun> Roey: you'll continue to get those errors if timidity is running.
[23:59] <willy> does any 1 know what a good programe to run on yahoo