[09:27] <euxneks> tiyowan, fyi restarting X fixed up arrow issue
[09:27] <afancy> Boohbah: it is a nice terminal. I cannot find a better one for Gnome
[09:27] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: i like my automatic stuff; it has code folding too, along with automatic code highlight depending on what you have open...i love vim
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: so probably causing strain on your system due to all the extra libs needed
[09:28] <luddite> dr_willis : yes thats what i need to run - gnome-settings. thatnks\\
[09:28] <Asad2005_> how to list package version number from command line
[09:28] <tiyowan> euxneks: Useful to know. :-)
[09:28] <rdw200169> huxl3y: so, if you're smart, you could download a developer image of windows from the microsoft website, and use that til it expires... *hint* hint *hint*
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: check top, ps, lsof for the pid of your konsole.
[09:28] <jileeann> 8.10 ibex laptop install and a dead usb mouse any ideas ?
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: do you have plenty of free RAM?
[09:29] <huxl3y> rdw200169: oh no worries I got a win iso on my desktop for that I think
[09:29] <dilan728> hi
[09:29] <tiyowan> jileeann: Open up a terminal window and type lsusb.
[09:29] <afancy> Boohbah: u mean Konsole consumes large amount RAM?
[09:29] <jileeann> not detected
[09:29] <afancy>  8949 xiliu     20   0 91004  20m  13m R    1  0.6   0:05.60 konsole
[09:29] <tiyowan> jileeann: Not to be rather curt here, but...use another usb mouse?
[09:29] <Boohbah> afancy: not necessarily, just that loading libs for both kde and gnome can take lots of ram.
[09:30] <vaxius> kuake ftw!
[09:30] <jileeann> no joy :-/
[09:30] <Boohbah> afancy: remember that kde4 is still in development and not the most resource-friendly either
[09:30] <jileeann> tiyowan, and it works in the desktop
[09:30] <afancy> Boohbah: so, i should uninstall these stuff
[09:31] <tiyowan> jileean: Plugging in another usb mouse doesn't work?
[09:31] <jileeann> looking for one
[09:31] <Yoyoto> sooo uhh anyhelp on my wireless situation?
[09:31] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: roger that. did you see this from rdw200169 ? --> http://pida.co.uk/
[09:32] <rdw200169> go into an empty directory, /home/user/pida, whatever
[09:33] <jileeann> tiyowan, there is a panel in the gui under mouse conf that asks for program to run when a mouse is plugged in , any ideas ? - still looking for a fsckn mouse grrr
[09:33] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: omg, is that vim it's using as the editor?  i'm coding with that tomorrow!
[09:33] <huxl3y> rdw200169: jeez virtual box is NICE thanks a ton man
[09:33] <huxl3y> rdw200169: Linux is all about digging for the good apps...
[09:34] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: wow, i'm so geeky, getting excited over a new ide...*sigh*
[09:34] <tiyowan> jileeann: mouse.conf? Could you give me a full path to the file? I could check mine out and see.
[09:34] <rdw200169> huxl3y: glad to help!
[09:35] <randal> what is a good dock for ubuntu
[09:35] <Walty> randal: cairo?
[09:35] <tiyowan> randal: awn?
[09:36] <vaxius> !info cairo-dock | randal
[09:36] <Walty> I dont really like any docks
[09:36] <xyxxl> I don't like docks either
[09:36] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: hehe, i thought you might like.. but to really get it installed you need to /msg rdw200169
[09:36] <Yoyoto> mmm can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[09:37] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: why?
[09:38] <hasibullah> hi
[09:39] <Boohbah> afancy: yeah, what were you trying to do with Konsole that you can't do with gnome-terminal?
[09:39] <raylu> sigh
[09:39] <hasibullah> i installed wine in my computer but after that my audio and video songs are't working
[09:39] <raylu> i couldn't get xscreensaver to compile
[09:39] <raylu> and flurry is no longer packaged :9
[09:39]  * Yoyoto feels invisble
[09:39] <raylu> *:(
[09:39] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: there is some source that you'll have to download and compile.. using hg(similar to cvs or svn)
[09:39] <krishnan> hasibulla: what is wine?
[09:39] <Boohbah> raylu: it's not in the ubuntu version?
[09:39] <Boohbah> krishnan: windows emulator
[09:39] <raylu> Boohbah: nope.
[09:40] <jileeann> tiyowan, system > preference > removable drives and media >input devices >mice
[09:40] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: hg?  never heard of it
[09:40] <raylu> Boohbah: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver_5.07-0ubuntu3/changelog
[09:40] <krishnan> Boohbah: what does it actually do
[09:40] <hasibullah> it is an appllication that can run microsoft programs
[09:40] <Boohbah> raylu: i would guess you are missing some dev libs
[09:40] <raylu> Boohbah: i would too. but configure says i'm fine
[09:40] <jileeann> tiyowan, sry about the delay the kids are up late
[09:40] <tiyowan> jileeann: I'm sorry. Are you using ubuntu 8.10?
[09:41] <jileeann> tiyowan, 8.10 studio
[09:41] <koshar1> vaxius hg is componant of mercurial.
[09:41] <huxl3y> rdw200169: While your around do you know of anything close to winSCP? This Filezilla just isn't up to par
[09:41] <Boohbah> krishnan: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ
[09:41] <tiyowan> jileeann: I really don't know what could be the problem, but I'd recommend that you plug in another mouse.
[09:41] <Antonz> jileeann:I can't find "removable drives and media
[09:41] <raylu> huxl3y: what's wrong with just scp?
[09:41] <vaxius> koshar1: just found that out, thanks though
[09:42] <Boohbah> raylu: hmmm, can you pastebin the error?
[09:42] <Agion> how can I put a program to run a program like avant-window-navigator or pidgin automatically when I log in?
[09:42] <rdw200169> huxl3y: secure copy,huh, well, you could just use the scp command
[09:42] <huxl3y> raylu: yea your right I should just learn the scp command line
[09:42] <huxl3y> raylu: easier said then done tho
[09:42] <rdw200169> raylu: hah you beat me, i missed that
[09:42] <jileeann> tiyowan, just did and no joy
[09:42] <hasibullah> boohbah: i installed wine in my computer but my audio and video aren't working
[09:42] <raylu> Boohbah: it's a make error about X11/something.h not being found
[09:42] <raylu> huxl3y: there is also sshfs
[09:42] <raylu> Boohbah: but i had libx11-dev installed, and configure agreed
[09:42] <huxl3y> I think that's what I read on the forums anyhow - just learn scp... :p
[09:43] <Boohbah> huxl3y: scp /path/to/local/file user@remote:/your/path
[09:43] <rdw200169> well, what you probably really want, is to just mount a remote ssh computer as a drive
[09:43] <rdw200169> huxl3y: i forgot to say your name on the former comment
[09:43] <tiyowan> jileeann: Hmm. I'm out of ideas. But sounds to me that you need to tinker around with some configuration files. Sorry. The more experienced people could help you out.
[09:43] <huxl3y> Boohbah: thanks copying that down
[09:43] <vaxius> Agion: you can add it in one of the tabs under System > Preferences > Sessions
[09:43] <the-erm> sshfs?
[09:43] <rdw200169> huxl3y: Places -> Connect to Server...
[09:43] <jileeann> Antonz, system > preference > removable drives and media >input devices >mice
[09:43] <rdw200169> the-erm: you too...
[09:43] <Agion> thanks
[09:43] <Boohbah> rdw200169: ehh probably want to use NFS or Samba for that
[09:44] <rdw200169> Boohbah: this works very well actually
[09:44] <huxl3y> rdw200169: i've been hearing alot about that - I'm going to have to study up on it
[09:44] <vaxius> Agion: np
[09:44]  * jileeann is looking around for a bigger hammer
[09:44] <nowy> Hello from iced Spain...brrr :-S
[09:44] <Sam_e> miss understanding now, i dont know with your language,,,please tell
[09:44] <rdw200169> Boohbah: for small stuff, ssh is designed with this in mind, it's not just a terminal, even though that's what people tend to use it for...
[09:44] <Sam_e> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:44] <Sam_e> ssssssssssssssss
[09:44] <jileeann> tiyowan,
[09:44] <Sam_e> iam dododl
[09:44] <hasibullah> boohah: how can i solve the audio and video problem
[09:44] <Sam_e> zazadodollll
[09:45] <rdw200169> huxl3y: did you go to 'Connect to Server...'?
[09:45] <jileeann> Antonz,
[09:45] <Sam_e> dasar orang aneh
[09:45] <Sam_e> aneh
[09:45] <rdw200169> huxl3y: this is *really* easy
[09:45] <jileeann> thanx !!
[09:45] <raylu> Boohbah: nobody "wants" the headache that is samba
[09:45] <Sam_e> yang lebih aneh lagi sapa hayooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[09:45] <raylu> Boohbah: it doesn't even work well in windows =\
[09:45] <Sam_e> enteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:45] <sja_> hello, all! how i can configure xorg.conf for my devices in u8.10. this file is 0 byres length...
[09:45] <Sam_e> ape loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:46] <vaxius> !xorg.conf | sja_
[09:46] <hasibullah> hello every body how can i solve my audio and video after i install wine in my computer
[09:46] <Boohbah> raylu: yes, CIFS is not a nice protocol
[09:47] <TecR0c> ehhhhhhhhh
[09:47] <TecR0c> i can't get cairo to work
[09:47] <Boohbah> hasibullah: that depends on your application, hardware, and configuration
[09:47] <raylu> !info cairo
[09:47] <TecR0c> i have installed it and i have chosen a theme and i select ok
[09:47] <TecR0c> but then I get a bunch of errors in the terminal =/
[09:47] <vaxius> TecR0c: just start it and it should pop up
[09:48] <jileeann> sja_, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[09:49] <TecR0c> vaxius, it doesn't start for me
[09:49] <jileeann> sja_, have fun
[09:49] <vazdyk> hello, i have a problem with skype. It doesn't show me the correct image. But with other programs(like Cheese) image is correct. What to do ?
[09:49] <kid> hi
[09:49] <kid> hi
[09:49] <TecR0c> i ran alt + F2 and typed cairo-dock and nothin happens ?
[09:49] <Boohbah> TecR0c: please pastebin the error messages
[09:49] <Boohbah> TecR0c: start it from a console to see
[09:50] <TecR0c> yeah i get heaps of error's
[09:50] <TecR0c> saying warning :  (cairo-dock-application-factory.c:cairo_dock_create_surface_from_xpixmap:123)  etc etc
[09:50] <jileeann> sja_, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[09:50] <jileeann> sja_, least you could do is say thanx :-/
[09:52] <nowy> exists this file: hsfmodem_<IP_ADDRESS>full_k2.6.27_9_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip ? i need IT
[09:52] <Boohbah> TecR0c: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install libpixman-1-0
[09:52] <Boohbah> err s/upgrade/update/
[09:52] <jileeann> used to be a girl could get at least the empty promise of a foot rub ! wtf is the linux community falling to ?
[09:53] <sja_> jileeann, thanx ^)
[09:53] <jileeann> :-) your welcome
[09:53] <raylu> this is what happens when something becomes popular, jileeann
[09:53] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: you talk to rdw200169 ?
[09:54] <jileeann> raylu, what ? there's "only" 1300 lusers in here :-)
[09:54] <computer> how do i encrypt my whole system?
[09:55] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: yep, i'm copying the instructions so i can install later when i have time
[09:55] <Boohbah> jileeann: expecting special treatment is sort of hypocritical, isn't it?
[09:55] <jileeann> computer, hide the keyboard
[09:55] <m0t0n`_> did u know dell is putting ubuntu and some of their laptops and desktops?
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: cool, roger that. i think rdw200169 accidentally has me on ignore. lloks like he then tried to remove it, but i think he goofed on the remove.. lol
[09:56] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: yes, so is ASUS
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: anyway, bedtime here
[09:56] <jileeann> Boohbah, not really expecting special treatment , I'm still here after all failed putting my $0.02 worth in
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> g'night all! have fun
[09:56] <m0t0n`_> good I hope more people hear about it and jump on ubuntu..  much better os
[09:57] <huxl3y> Anyone here ever have there GUI lock up? everything still running in the background and able to alt-tab etc but no mouse clicks until logout/login
[09:57] <tiyowan> Have a good one, onetinsoldier.
[09:57] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: :-)
[09:57] <jileeann> tiyowan, thanx again I'll keep at it
[09:57] <m0t0n`_> I would like to be able to play more games on ubuntu tho beside dos box
[09:57] <Boohbah> jileeann: we're glad you're here! :)
[09:57] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: wine?
[09:58] <imachine> hi
[09:58] <m0t0n`_> I tried oblivion under wine but not so hot
[09:58] <raylu> computer: isn't there an option to do that during install
[09:58] <imachine> I've resized my boot partition in ubuntu 8.04 64bit using the 8.10 32bit cd
[09:58] <m0t0n`_> think i'll try gta san andreas
[09:58] <imachine> it went smooth but now I have "GRUB" printed during boot and nothing else happens.
[09:58] <Ranakah> gta SA working sloow
[09:58] <imachine> is there some simple way like running update-grub from the bootcd ?
[09:58] <Ranakah> :S
[09:58] <jileeann> Boohbah, but I DO SO WANT TO FEAST ON A TROLL I do , just for old times sake
[09:58] <TecR0c> Boohbah, i still get errors
[09:59] <Boohbah> huxl3y: sure, alt-tab to console and run top to see what is eating your CPU
[09:59] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | imachine
[09:59] <imachine> I'm in the process of getting a 64bit cd so I can chroot from it.
[09:59] <TecR0c> cairo_dock_create_surface_from_image: assertion `rsvg_handle != NULL' failed This pixmap is undefined. It can happen for exemple for a window that is in a minimized state when the dock is launching. etc etc
[09:59] <jileeann> brb
[09:59] <dr_willis> imachine,  i always use the unetbootin, or that usb-disk tool to make a bootable thumbdrive. :) thats Much more fun!
[10:00] <raylu> imachine: simple way of doing what? grub-install?
[10:00] <m0t0n`_> what's the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[10:00] <raylu> m0t0n`_: what kind of experiene do you want?
[10:00] <raylu> *experience?
[10:01] <Boohbah> TecR0c: tried googling for part of that error?
[10:01] <raylu> !torrent
[10:01] <raylu> it's a tough question :P
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> experience?
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> I belong to demonoid
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> basically all I'm using it for
[10:01] <raylu> m0t0n`_: do you want a minimalistic, highly configurable, command-line client
[10:01] <Sinmaster> Hey guys, can anybody tell me why when i try to load my LIN/Ubu OS after i've installed it it's says me "Error loading the operation system." ?
[10:01] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: the default transmission works fine for me... except it won't minimize to the toolbar anymore when i close it
[10:01] <raylu> m0t0n`_: do you want...azureus (aka meth lab)
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> transmission minimizes for me
[10:02] <imachine> dr_willis, yeah I figured I'd need a bootcd anyway
[10:02] <imachine> and my laptop can't boot from usb.
[10:02] <mpathy> Hi there..
[10:02] <dr_willis> imachine,  BUmmer.
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> azureus is good cuz it's written in java.. seems to be working good
[10:02] <imachine> yeah
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> is it junky?
[10:02] <imachine> grub is uni-bit yeah? I mean, it's the same for 64bit and 32bit ?
[10:02] <imachine> no difference tehre eah ?
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: it uses way too many resources in my experience, java is ew...
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> I'm using ipblock too
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: and az devs don't really agree with ubuntu devs
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> good point
[10:03] <raylu> m0t0n`_: someone in #ubuntu-devel explained recently
[10:03] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_:from another point of view, azureus is BAD because it's written in java :)
[10:03] <Malformation> Correct
[10:03] <chazco> Hi... how can I play a .mkv file? The audio plays in Totem but no video...
[10:03] <m0t0n`_> transmission all the way?
[10:04] <raylu> m0t0n`_: rtorrent is a nice cli client :D
[10:04] <Boohbah> chazco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163853
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> thx
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> just wanted to see what u guys think
[10:04] <tiyowan> m0t0n`_: rtorrent?
[10:04] <raylu> Boohbah: java: we'll make a programming language that stops bad coders from writing bad code ... wait...
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> utorrent maybe?
[10:04] <raylu> windows only :P
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> hehe
[10:05] <tiyowan> m0t0n`_: If you want something like utorrent, use ktorrent.
[10:05] <Sinmaster> Hey guys, can anybody tell me why when i try to load my LIN/Ubu OS after i've installed it it's says me "Error loading the operation system." ?
[10:05] <chazco> They seem to play it though, i just get the totem visualisations... if i convert a few seconds with ffmpeg i get video, so i know its in there :)
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> I was using bit torrent og client in xp
[10:05] <Boohbah> raylu: lol
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> what can I do to boost the volume of quiet avi files?
[10:06] <dr_willis> m0t0n`_,  i was thinking the vlc player could boost them by up to 300%
[10:06] <Boohbah> chazco: i'd imagine the ubuntu xine libs are compiled without mkv support
[10:06] <Boohbah> chazco	tried mplayer?
[10:06] <chazco> Boohbah - Hmm... i'm using gstreamer though (i imagine, its Totem)
[10:06] <Veovis_Muad> What is a good beginner IDE for C++?  Or what channel should I go to for more information?
[10:06] <mpathy> I have configured my xorg.conf to have a twinview, with my external 1680x1050 as my primary screen and the 1680x1050 laptop screen as additional. This works, but now when I only work with the laptop, its primary which is completely okay, but it extends the screen also, even when no monitor is connected! http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95278/ is my xorg.conf
[10:06] <jileeann>  /back critters in the yard...
[10:06] <imachine> totem-gstreamer has only one flaw I've come across, it can't play dvd properly
[10:06] <Boohbah> Veovis_Muad: i hear kdevelop is good if you're into kde...
[10:07] <Veovis_Muad> nope, I'm on gnome....
[10:07] <imachine> it doesn't allow for setting the voice/subtitle streams, and one cannot use menus.
[10:07] <imachine> 'cept for that, it's spot on.
[10:07] <Veovis_Muad> I have yet to try KDE
[10:07] <dungdechungminh_> ok
[10:07] <m0t0n`_> is there an option for audio boost in totem?
[10:07] <imachine> m0t0n`_, I don't think so.
[10:07] <imachine> no wait.
[10:07] <imachine> it has software audio.
[10:07] <jileeann> mpathy, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[10:07] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: try alsamixer
[10:07] <imachine> so it should "just work" if you top it.
[10:08] <imachine> s/software audio/software audio mixer.
[10:08] <m0t0n`_> sorry i'm a bit of a newbie
[10:08]  * jileeann feels like a broken record
[10:08] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: i think vlc has that %500 audio gain too...
[10:09] <m0t0n`_> mpathy a better player?
[10:09] <imachine> hey has anyone noticed how you don't have 8.10 working with weather applet in the clock/date applet?
[10:09] <m0t0n`_> vlc support widescreen?
[10:09] <raylu> imachine: actually, yes
[10:09] <imachine> m0t0n`_, everything support it, there's not much to support.
[10:09] <raylu> m0t0n`_: of course. but vlc is bleh
[10:09] <mpathy> jileeann: its a nvidia and only a minimal problem in a working configuration
[10:09] <dr_willis> m0t0n`_,  err.. it supports videos.. :) whatever res you want
[10:09] <imachine> raylu, umm, well yes. it works if you set it up with 8.04 before hand.
[10:09] <dr_willis> I have no issues with vlc, or mplayer..   try them both.. use what you perfer.
[10:09] <imachine> raylu, but one cannot add the localisations on 8.10
[10:09] <raylu> imachine: :(
[10:09] <Boohbah> i find vlc is good for playing weird formats.
[10:09] <mpathy> jileeann: because of that I asked here but it seems to be a half offtopic channel.
[10:10] <m0t0n`_> i don't have it installed i dont think
[10:10] <raylu> m0t0n`_: i'd recommend trying mplayer first. if you don't like the cli, try one of the many guis
[10:10] <jileeann> mpathy, exactly , I do remember seeing something about that in the forum
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, if I add "locations" it just don't work right no list to choose from.
[10:10] <rascal34> help
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, also, do you know where does it pick it's weather off from ?
[10:10] <rascal34> help
[10:10] <bazhang> jileeann, what is that forum you are linking to?
[10:10] <rascal34> please
[10:10] <FloodBot2> rascal34: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, the forecasts I mean
[10:10] <Boohbah> !ask | rascal34
[10:10] <mpathy> m0t0n`_: But you are right, VLC is a player who can boost the volume of quiet files without reendcoding them.. even tough its not the best quality
[10:11] <raylu> imachine: no idea.
[10:11] <rascal34> help me somebody , i cannot login to ubuntu
[10:11] <imachine> raylu, I only have the next best thing which is a city 100km away from me... and so it's not always accurate.
[10:11] <rascal34> compiz problem
[10:11] <imachine> but I live in the 2/3rd biggest town in the country
[10:11] <imachine> so I think I deserve to have it on the list :)
[10:11] <jileeann> bazhang, a wealth of xorg info
[10:12] <Boohbah> rascal34: turn off compiz?
[10:12] <bazhang> jileeann, just linking to some random forum is not good practices, please refer to the ubuntu wiki or a specific ubuntuforums post rather than just putting up that link.
[10:13] <mpathy> jileeann: hmm, but for what can I search? If I would know that, google would have helped me already to solve the problem
[10:13] <daedelus> can anyone tell me how to uninstall the nvidia driver that was downloaded from nvidia.com directly and installed from command line?
[10:13] <Boohbah> daedelus: just remove nvidia.ko under your /lib/modules directory
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> !alsa
[10:14] <daedelus> really?
[10:14] <daedelus> no configuration?
[10:14] <Boohbah> daedelus: you also may be able to go into the nvidia source directory and run 'make uninstall'
[10:14] <daedelus> sounds a little to simple
[10:14] <daedelus> and where would i find the nvidia souce directory?
[10:14] <Boohbah> daedelus: well you'll have to configure something to reaplce it...
[10:15] <daedelus> right i was planning on gettin rid of it and installing it with synaptic
[10:15] <rascal34> please help me boonbah
[10:15] <Boohbah> daedelus: installing it with synaptic should automatically overwrite it with no problem
[10:15] <m0t0n`_> vlc rocks man thanks alot exactly what I was looking for!
[10:15] <raylu> m0t0n`_: sigh.
[10:16] <Boohbah> rascal34: disable compiz
[10:16] <daedelus> thats what i thought but i tried it already and im getting a mismatch error
[10:16] <raylu> m0t0n`_: vlc uses its own decoders, so i don't recommend it
[10:16] <rascal34> how to disable , i cant go into desktop
[10:16] <daedelus> trying to run eve online
[10:16] <Veovis_Muaddib> I have another question:  I'm in gnome, and I have the... um... wiggly windows, and they latch on to edges.  But whenever I latch any window to the top panel, it... wiggles and then the top part of the window, the part you grab to move, gets trapped behind the top panel.  I can still see the menus, but I can't move the window.  Any help?
[10:16] <imachine> m0t0n`_, totem-xine is nice
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> but I have really quiet avi files
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> totem is good too
[10:16] <imachine> m0t0n`_, if you want a seamless move from the old totem :)
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> I just need it for a few quiet avi files
[10:16] <imachine> yeah
[10:16] <imachine> I think totem has software audio mixing
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> mostly use totem tho
[10:16] <rascal34> Boohbah: give me terminal command to disable compiz
[10:17] <imachine> which means you get a separate audio level from the one you set up in volume controll
[10:17] <imachine> but yeah
[10:17] <imachine> vlc is cool too
[10:17] <imachine> :)
[10:17] <FloodBot2> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <Boohbah> /usr/bin/metacity --replace &
[10:17] <fuxx> hello, i trying to figure out how to make work special buttons on my laptop. Some of them work, some not. Those not working aren't even shown by xev. I guess i need to configure hal somehow? But which codes i show, how to debug this problem, or where to search for help?
[10:17] <jileeann> bazhang, if I felt it was a random forum I wouldn't have bothered
[10:17] <Boohbah> rascal34: ^ ^
[10:17] <imachine> gnome seems to aim more at ease of use, while kde (and it's application-base) tend to have more wicked options.
[10:17] <imachine> it's all about options there.
[10:17] <imachine> m0t0n`_, so you might want to check say smplayer
[10:17] <imachine> or kmplayer
[10:18] <jileeann> mpathy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412628  for a start
[10:18] <Boohbah> imachine: i'm using kde 3.5 and gnome now because kde4 is not quite ready...
[10:18] <imachine> Boohbah, I know.
[10:19] <imachine> Boohbah, part of the reason I migrated to ubuntu was that my previous distro "upgraded" to kde4
[10:19] <raylu> i remember i used kubuntu a long time ago and kde4 beta was relesed...
[10:19] <imachine> and by the time I realized how to keep 3.5 on it, I already moved to gnome
[10:19] <raylu> i got excited and "not quite ready" didn't even begin to describe the breakage i experienced
[10:19] <imachine> and if I moved to gnome I thought oh, I could just as well try "imrpvoed" gnome, so ubuntu popped into mind.
[10:19] <imachine> and I'm on ubuntu ever since ;)
[10:19] <raylu> imachine: what distro were you using?
[10:20] <imachine> raylu, ArchLinux
[10:20] <imachine> raylu, it was a good year or year an a half with arch ;)
[10:20] <imachine> but all ends well that ends well.
[10:20] <imachine> we have no hard feelings for eachother ;)
[10:21] <themadhatter> Hello all! I am using Ubuntu, and frequently use the Chinese IME in SCIM to type Chinese; but do so inside of an English locale. If I set the system language to Chinese, then the Chinese fonts appear beautifully (keeping my locale as English), but if I set the system locale to English, the fonts look really thin and not appealing at all. Is there a way to correct this?
[10:21] <Boohbah> imachine: almost-ex-gentoo user of 7 years here :)
[10:21] <imachine> Boohbah, yeah it's a mazing innit.
[10:21] <imachine> I think it's a matter of time.
[10:21] <imachine> when LInux will immediately be affiliated with ubuntu
[10:21] <imachine> ;p
[10:21] <imachine> unless they do something so horrific, it will shove us all off to some other dist.
[10:21] <imachine> :D
[10:21] <raylu> imachine: corporate is still redhat
[10:21] <jileeann> Boohbah, 7 years ?! you poor thing :-)
[10:22] <imachine> raylu, dunno mate. redhat, suse...
[10:22] <imachine> raylu, but Ubuntu provides support too :
[10:22] <raylu> imachine: yeah...but nobody buys it from canonical :P
[10:22] <imachine> and I haven't seen dell laptops with redhat:)
[10:22] <xyxxl> Ubuntu is going to need to provide more than desktop support to get into the corporate market
[10:22] <raylu> imachine: i haven't seen people with dell laptops with ubuntu either :P they sell them but, again, nobody buys them
[10:23] <raylu> xyxxl: canonical provides server support..
[10:23] <imachine> it doesn't matter.
[10:23] <imachine> the machine's been set in motion.
[10:23] <jileeann> Boohbah, then again my "milk language" is VMS/VAX
[10:23] <imachine> it's a matter of time, I hear jaunty's all the bomb.
[10:23] <imachine> jileeann, I salute thee
[10:23] <imachine> jileeann, VMS is an abomination imho.
[10:23] <Boohbah> raylu: imachine: yes,  the big iron runs redhat enterprise linux :)
[10:23] <imachine> but I never spent more than a few hours on it.
[10:24] <xyxxl> Canonical does, but i haven't seen any indication that they provide the level of support and expertise in the enterprise-level deployments that Redhat and SuSE do
[10:24] <TecR0c> which one is better, beryl or compiz ?
[10:24] <imachine> TecR0c, it's aonly compiz now.
[10:24] <TecR0c> imachine, what do you mean ?
[10:24] <Boohbah> jileeann: yeah VMS is so old school and awesome! so different from unix
[10:24] <imachine> xyxxl, well, let it roll. it needs time to gain the similar momentum other companies got.
[10:24] <zetheroo>  I installed Mythbuntu on my Ubuntu system sorta without knowing what it was ... and I want to get rid of the entire thing ... how do I do that? when I try to remove mythbuntu from Synaptic it does not take all the other files with it
[10:24] <imachine> Boohbah, I don't think it's awesome.
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, beryl is no longer
[10:24] <imachine> I think it's a big error ;]
[10:24] <raylu> Boohbah: the big who?
[10:24] <imachine> :D
[10:24] <TecR0c> oh ok
[10:24] <xyxxl> If I'm going to need support for a few thousand machines, I'd be more likely to go with a company that has proven they can do it
[10:25] <jileeann> imachine, I might be dating myself a bit here
[10:25] <Boohbah> imachine: but there are vaxen that have 10 years+ uptime
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, it merged with compiz and became compiz-fusion
[10:25] <imachine> Boohbah, meh
[10:25] <imachine> the OS has potential, so to put it.
[10:25] <xyxxl> imachine, yes, that is very true, Canonical has a lot of work to do, though. They have some steep competition right now.
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, you can still use emerald as a window decorator if you want
[10:25] <imachine> but coming from *NIX, it was WEIRD :-)
[10:25] <Boohbah> raylu: big iron, you know, IBM mainframes :)
[10:26] <knut_> hi, how can i add dokument presets to the right click menu of gnome? im using ubuntu 8.04
[10:26] <ompaul> xyxxl, that could be construed as offtopic, it is not a help subject, they have multi thousand installations - obviously the others have been around longer ergo greater market share
[10:26] <imachine> Boohbah, tbh, if you need "support" for your servers, you should really rethink your administrators.
[10:26] <imachine> Boohbah, also in most places I've seen servers ran either debian or gentoo.
[10:26] <imachine> eventually fbsd.
[10:26] <imachine> ;)
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, create a folder in your home directory called "Templates" then create whichever templates you want in there
[10:27] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: thank you :-)
[10:27] <bullgard4> man mii-tool: "This utility checks or sets the status of a network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit." What is a 'network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit'?
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, you may need to logout and back in to gnome again for the changes to show up
[10:27] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, so emerald isn't primary one either anymore ?
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, its not recommended
[10:27] <Boohbah> imachine: not really, even administrators need support sometimes
[10:27] <imachine> Boohbah, there's always google :-)
[10:28] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what do you recommand ?
[10:28] <jamesbrink> only poopy ones need support
[10:28] <imachine> Boohbah, but it depends.
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, its unstable compared to gtk-window-decorator or kwin.. although I still use emerald :)
[10:28] <imachine> yeah if everything runs well from the software side.
[10:28] <imachine> it's mostly a pebkac.
[10:28] <imachine> so I'd agree with jamesbrink here
[10:28] <Boohbah> imachine: so, how many machines are you responsible for?
[10:28] <jamesbrink> =)
[10:28] <imachine> Boohbah, should I count routers as well?
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, there are no show stopping bugs with it.. perfectly functional.. its just being phased out
[10:29] <koshar1> TecR0c emerald looks great with the reflections plugin
[10:29] <Boohbah> imachine: yes
[10:29] <jamesbrink> imachine, and switches
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> koshar1, that just causes more annoyance
[10:29] <bazhang> !offtopic
[10:29] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: do u have an example for creating such a template? how does it have to be like when i want to make a template for *.odt?
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, about 12
[10:29] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, give or takee one.
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, yeah its essentially just an empty file
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, but I don't work as an admin (yet, fully at least).
[10:29] <imachine> bazhang, right, soz.
[10:30] <imachine> I'm off anyway gon try out my new grub fix:)
[10:30] <imachine> brb
[10:30] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what is the most prefered one to use these days ?
[10:30] <jamesbrink> i get to watch a few hundred
[10:30] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, e.g. "New Document.odt"
[10:30] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: ok ill try it
[10:30] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, whichever you prefer
[10:33] <Milos> Does ubuntu server come with a pre-installed firewall?
[10:33] <Milos> If so, which one?
[10:33] <nowy> bye
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> !firewall | Milos
[10:34] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: can i add other menupoints a well?
[10:35] <beastax> hiya, ive just got a headset but im having trouble getting the mic working with applications.  i have unmuted and turned up everything in volume control, and my mic  plays back to me with "Analog Mix" turned up, but no application "hears" my mic - recordings are blank and TeamSpeak sees me as mic and headphones muted
[10:35] <beastax> any suggestions please?
[10:36] <knut_> beastax: maybe u have selected the wrong recording device
[10:36] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what ones are available ?
[10:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !wm
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> !windowmanager
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[10:37] <beastax> knut_, you mean in the volume control options?
[10:37] <BoogieBoo> Hello, I installed Ubuntu intrepid 32 bits from new, and all the VPN pptp pakets in order to establish a VPN connection to my work place, well it is still not working, HELP
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, there are too many to list
[10:37] <knut_> beastax: look unter system -> preferences -> audio
[10:38] <jileeann> ! xorg
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, what do you mean?
[10:39] <BoogieBoo> So, If #ubuntu doesn't help,. #ubuntu-bugs either, and this is clearly a PROBLEM with the distribution,What it is supossed to us to do ????? Go back to XP or what?
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> BoogieBoo, dont moan here
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | BoogieBoo #
[10:39] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: when i click with the right mousebutton on my desktop, a menu appears. for that i want to add other menu entries
[10:40] <jileeann> BoogieBoo, that's my job
[10:40] <puneeth> will nexuiz the game require a fast graphic card to play on??
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> I have been asking this question in this channel and #ubuntu-bugs for weeks
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> this is not my first day
[10:40] <beastax> knut_, in system - preferences - sound, which option to change please?
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> and this is a BUG with Intrepid
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> BoogieBoo, the length of time it is taking you is irrelevant
[10:40] <puneeth> i have a sad graphic card... Via unichrome Pro
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> that hasn't been solved yet
[10:40] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo pptp is working for me fine, did you set up the routes?
[10:40] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, do you have the launchpad bug number?
[10:41] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, routers?? If I restar with another computer with XP with the same router configuration is connection successfully to the VPN server
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, yes I know what the menu is... what other entries... like what?
[10:41] <knut_> beastax: i dont know it this will work but look under "audioconference" and try to change the device
[10:41] <beastax> knut_, dont know if this helps at all, but in sound recorder if i record a track, the "level" is showing that i am talking, but playback is still mute
[10:41] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, is there an open bug report on this?
[10:41] <Tapnzout> Paddy_EIRE, really?  Really?  You're gonna continually try and petty-control the guy trying to get help?  Just tell him where to go... if you don't know, ease up.. he's not going crazy
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, I mean do you want a "make me some tea" entry or a "feed the cat" entry??
[10:41] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: you need to set up the routing (i.e. which IPs go through the tunnel)
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, just put in luanchpad "intrepid vpn" and you will see
[10:42] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, please link the specific bug
[10:42] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: whats the difference :-)
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Tapnzout, clear of mate.. he's spamming the channel
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, what routing are you talking about?? With 8.04 this was perfectly working
[10:42] <beastax> knut_, well i dont know what to say - i click test in audioconferencing, i can hear my mic through my headphones
[10:42] <beastax> but no audio software hears it
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Tapnzout, and who are you again O_o
[10:42] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: by default in windows all traffic goes in the tunnel, in ubuntu nothing goes you have to tell it
[10:42] <Tapnzout> !ohmy > Paddy_EIRE
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, so Why I didn't do that in 8.04?
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !botabuse > Tapnzout
[10:43] <r0ny> hi any one experienced an issue like tomcat listening on tcp6,rather than tcp
[10:43] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: i don't know about 8.04 i'm telling my experience with 8.10
[10:43] <knut_> beastax: try to experiment with the devices maybe that will work
[10:43] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, the error is "Connection  connected FAILED" I don't even get
[10:43] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, the error is "Connection  FAILED", I even get connected
[10:43] <beastax> knut_, what do you mean?  ive tried blindly changing options as trial and error
[10:44] <beastax> nothing has worked yet
[10:44] <knut_> it could be that u have to select the audiodevice inside the recording software
[10:44] <beastax> took ages just to work out that "Analog Mix" in volume control would turn up my mic
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, you are going to have to either give me an example of what you want in that menu or this is not going anywhere :/
[10:44] <BoogieBoo> HERE WE GO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/284212
[10:44] <BoogieBoo> It is a KNOWN bug of Intrepid
[10:44] <beastax> knut_, thats what i thought but the different software i am trying doesnt have any options that have helped
[10:44] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: try connecting using kvpnc if u're bogged down
[10:45] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: for example my bookmarks and places
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, not really..
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !info nautilus-script-manager
[10:46] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, I have another computer with Intrepid and the same results, In fact in both computers I was using 8.04 with VPN connection USCCESSFULLY until the last updates. The it was screwed up
[10:46] <jileeann> will ps ax | grep compiz return a pid ?
[10:46] <zero__> hola
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, that would be hard coded you would need to do the manual code monkey work yourself and possibly risk breaking it everytime your system updates
[10:47] <Yoyoto> So I'm having an impossible time trying to install ndiswrapper
[10:47] <cristi> uhm can anyone recomend me a sound control program?
[10:47] <Boohbah> cristi: alsamixer
[10:47] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: the nautilus-script-manager would do it?
[10:47] <cristi> Boohbah: my volume control doesn't work anymore btw
[10:47] <Yoyoto> Please help
[10:47] <op4> http://www.alsa-project.org/
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, no not really.. but it adds handy menu entries for such things as converting audio/images or resizing them and such
[10:48] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: nice
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, the intention of the Gnome DE is to be minimal.. if you want that level of customisation you should consider a different DE
[10:49] <Yoyoto> Can anyone please help me with ndiswrapper
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Yoyoto
[10:50] <Yoyoto> the real question is why have I followed every instruction on installing it and still not done it
[10:50] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: is KDE better for that?
[10:50] <jamesbrink> Yoyoto, your doing it wrong
[10:50] <Yoyoto> clearly
[10:51] <op4> what is your wireless nic make and model
[10:51] <cristi> Boohbah: thanks
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !best | knut_
[10:51] <Yoyoto> Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard
[10:52] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: :-)
[10:52] <Yoyoto> I found a how to specific for my card
[10:52] <Yoyoto> but I have no luck
[10:52] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: i like gnome
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, one moment I have experience with that chipset
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, me too.. although I like most DE's :)
[10:52] <jileeann> will ps ax | grep compiz return a pid ?
[10:53] <op4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[10:53] <jileeann> oops sry
[10:53] <op4> this should work
[10:53] <Yoyoto> op4 thats the thing I started with
[10:53] <Yoyoto> with no luck
[10:53] <blip-> hi all, how can I check that the apache2 http server is properly set up to use php to run php scripts ?   I have php packages installed
[10:53] <BoogieBoo> "Connection FAILED", when trying to Connect to a PPTP VPN network that was working properly in Hardy
[10:54] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone please be my ubuntu bud?
[10:54] <op4> sudo rmmod ndiswrapper sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5 sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, could you do an "lspci" in a terminal and copy and paste the output to pastebin
[10:54] <op4> clean all the old crap off before you start'
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin | Yoyoto
[10:54] <_nano_> blip-: in  your homepage write a file named index.php which contains just the following command <? phpinfo() ?>
[10:54] <Yoyoto> .... a what?
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !who | op4
[10:55] <blip-> _nano_, oh nice idea :)  thanks
[10:55] <rookeeeeeeeee> i need an ubuntu buddy
[10:55] <Yoyoto> Paddy_eire a what? I'm new to linux
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, open a terminal and type "lspci" without quotes.. then pastebin the output
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[10:56] <Yoyoto> terminal I know lol
[10:56] <_nano_> blip-: you're welcome :)
[10:56] <jileeann> rookeeeeeeeee, just the nick is tiresome , state the question please
[10:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> what jileeann ??????
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | rookeeeeeeeee
[10:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> im asking my question @ Paddy_EIRE
[10:56] <jileeann> Paddy_EIRE, tnx
[10:57] <rookeeeeeeeee> im asking for an ubuntu buddy
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | rookeeeeeeeee
[10:57] <_nano_> rookeeeeeeeee: what does "ubuntu buddy" mean?
[10:57] <Yoyoto> paddy_eirie http://paste.ubuntu.com/85068/
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> rookeeeeeeeee, no you aint asking anything.. ask your question.. not if "anyone" will help your buddy :/
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, 1 sec
[10:58] <rookeeeeeeeee> Paddy_EIRE, you dont seem to be reading what im typing. im asking for a buddy for MYSELF
[10:58] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, what is your exact question.
[10:58] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:59] <Paddy_EIRE> rookeeeeeeeee, you are just growing tiresome and are unlikely to get any help
[10:59] <blip-> _nano_, just to double check,  it's meant to show the phpinfo output in the browser right ?  it isn't doing that, means i have to configure apache to allow php right ?
[10:59] <jamesbrink> rookeeeeeeeee, i will be your ubuntu buddy
[10:59] <rookeeeeeeeee> my exact question is: is there anyone who would like to help me along with ubuntu and be my "ubuntu buddy"? I'd like to add him/her to my buddy list and talk with them about something.
[11:00] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <_nano_> blip-: yeah
[11:00] <blip-> ok thanks
[11:00] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, this channel is for specific ubuntu-related support questions.
[11:01] <_nano_> blip-: how did you actually go about installing php?
[11:01] <rookeeeeeeeee> what is all this "tiresome" talk?
[11:01] <jileeann> ! compiz
[11:01] <rookeeeeeeeee> nonesense
[11:02] <blip-> _nano_, I'm ont ubuntu 7.04,  I installed from the repos.  I followed a guide to know which packages are needed
[11:02] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, please stop. ask a specific question or chat elsewhere.
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, I am switching over to my laptop.. be right back
[11:02] <blip-> _nano_, thought it wasn't a 7.04 guide,  maybe that's the problem
[11:02] <_nano_> blip-: could you link me to that guide? if you don't mind that is
[11:03] <MrOtacon> Hello. I wonder if someone can help me please. I have created a kai.desktop file to launch a program called Xlink Kai. Its executable is /usr/sbin/kaiengine. I have added my kai.desktop file (located in /usr/share/applications/kde4/) to a panel so i can quick launch it. However - the program must be run with root rights. It runs fine, if I enter the password, but i do not want to enter the password - i want it to run as
[11:03] <MrOtacon> root, but not prompt for password. How do i do this?  I have tried to "sudo visudo" and added the line: "user    ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/kaiengine", but it still prompts for password
[11:03] <blip-> _nano_,  I don't have it anymore sorry,  this was 2 weeks ago
[11:03] <gaelfx1> hey, I can't update, when I run sudo apt-get update, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/d5569b03f what do I do to fix this?
[11:03] <_nano_> blip-: no issues :)
[11:04] <blip-> _nano_, this looks good though i'm checking it out now  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:07] <gaelfx1> can someone please help me fix my problem with updating, this is the error I get whe I run sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/d5569b03f
[11:07] <noscreeninstall> i just wanna install ubuntu on this machine, but for some reason the livecd doesnt show me a screen, can i install ubuntu from the livecd in consolemode only?
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, ok I'm here.. just a moment
[11:11] <fafa> slt
[11:11] <yayks> is there a way to remove the keyring? I wanted it in the begining but now it's just bugging me
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, could you repost that link
[11:13] <Yoyoto> paddy_eirie http://paste.ubuntu.com/85068/
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, what is the issue with the keyring?
[11:13] <BoogieBoo> Nothing about my issue?
[11:13] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I think I'm missing some compilers cause installing gnash seemed to have failed
[11:13] <Yoyoto> I made sure to install gcc
[11:13] <Yoyoto> Atleast I'm pretty sure
[11:14] <yayks> Pappy, it popps up everytime I want to connect to my wireless network
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, that is what it is supposed to do
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> O_o
[11:14] <SuNDeC> hello, anyone know how to extract a piece from a .avi video file with the same quality?
[11:14] <quizme> is xeyes available for ubuntu ?
[11:15] <yayks> Pappy, yes but now I don't want the keyring how do I disable it?
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !who | yayks
[11:16] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: are you concerned more with protocol than support?
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, both
[11:17] <Boohbah> yayks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535363
[11:17] <molgrum> hi i'm trying to configure pulseaudio to use my front and rear speakers (4 in total, and 1 sub), this is what it says: http://www.pastebin.ca/1284887
[11:17] <op4> will do
[11:17] <molgrum> it worked with alsa before..
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, and I gave him a solution to his problem unlike that link you posted which is unsupported and could compromise security
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, have you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, copy and paste that entire link into your web browser
[11:19] <yayks> Pappy_EIRE & Boohbah: thx
[11:19] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire was that a joke? or should I have not double clicked it?
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, copy and paste it.. its broken down on irc
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lost in translation so to speak
[11:20] <chazco> Hi... i'm trying to use the Ubuntu intrepid version of ffmpeg to convert a "vp6f" .mkv file to an mpeg4 .avi. Using -sameq gives a good output quality, but the filesize is huge... any tips?
[11:21] <quizme> how do i upgrade my gnome?
[11:21] <quizme> i have 8.04
[11:21] <Milos> Why ... does my Ubuntu Server say it has one more user logged in all the time?
[11:21] <quizme> Ubuntu 8.04, just installed it.  how do i upgrade gnome?  apt-get install gnome ?
[11:22] <askand> Tips on software to make dvdcovers in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> askand, inkscape or gimp
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> askand, there are many others
[11:23] <eross> i want to know why, i tried writing dvds from my vacation in 3 to 4 different formats, and the older dvd players can play it but not my RCA w/that copy protection stuff
[11:24] <SuNDeC> chazco: i don't know why, but just don't use -sameq, try using other params
[11:24] <eross> and supposedly the rca can play all formats
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !medibuntu | eross
[11:25] <Bobbino> Hey, I've got some issues. I changed my motherboard last night and now ubuntu is pretty much throwing a fit at me... Is there an easy way to reinstall ubunutu but keeping all my settings etc (like drivers) or do I need to do a complete reinstall?
[11:25] <eross> ty Paddy
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Bobbino, "throwing a fit" could you be a little more specific
[11:26] <simplexio> Bobbino: ? i dont see problem why ubuntu wouldn't boot after mobo change if you have put ahrddrives back
[11:26] <quizme> sudo apt-get install gnome   <--- is that right ?
[11:26] <funbitz1> hi guys. could you give me some suggestions, i'm looking for a 'Total Commander' like file manager, twin panels, keyboard shortcuts, ftp...  whats the best stable option?
[11:26] <Bobbino> Sorry, ubuntu boots ok... But programs will randomly just close for no reason at all
[11:27] <Bobbino> I can't install any new programs, use the update feature
[11:27] <simplexio> harddrives back.. and fixed boot order on mount point, ehich should stay same because ubuntu uses uuid's for mountting as default
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !gnome-commander | quizme
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !info gnome-commander
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, try gnome-commander
[11:28] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire first error on make distclean
[11:28] <quizme> paddy_eire: sudo apt-get install gnome-commander   ?
[11:28] <Yoyoto> make: *** [distclean] Error 2
[11:28] <simplexio> Bobbino: start console and use dmesg command to see is everything ok, and try start those programs which crash  from console
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, yeah
[11:28] <quizme> paddy_eire: thanks!
[11:29] <simplexio> Bobbino: if programs crahs after mobo change, it starts to sound like there is big problem on hardware or kernel just dosnt work (and if you use ubuntu default it should work )
[11:29] <Yoyoto> this thing just hates me
[11:29] <quizme> paddy_eire what do i do after it's installed?
[11:29] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody tell me how I might disable these intelliTXT and other similar popups in FF, cause all I've found is stuff from a few years back that no longer works
[11:30] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  the adblockplus extension works here
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, whatever you want
[11:30] <quizme> paddy_eire lol, i mean how do i use it ?
[11:30] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire these were the same instructions
[11:30] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: backup your ~/.mozilla directory then remove it
[11:30] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis really? so far I havent been able to remove it
[11:30] <Bobbino> simplexio: Thanks... Also one of my hard drives won't mount anymore... Any suggestions why?
[11:30] <GodfatherofEire> Boohbah, and that would help me... how?
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, It may be in Applications > Accessories
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: get rid of all your old addons
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, I am not to sure.. I do not use it
[11:31] <GodfatherofEire> Boohbah, uh, no, not what I'm tryin to do here
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: sorry, i misunderstood
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, more bad advice
[11:31] <Leon> t
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: what you want is adblock plus
[11:31] <simplexio> Bobbino: was it mounted by uuid ?
[11:32] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: more lack of advice.
[11:32] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, so exactly what filter do you have for ABP that blocks the intelliTXT, cause its bein a pain on my end
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, no.. you really should stop barking in the wrong direction before you get kicked mate
[11:32] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire should I just go to sleep and give up?
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, no
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, I am reading.. 2 sec
[11:33] <Yoyoto> Methinks I'm missing something for compiling, gnash didn't work either
[11:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, did you install build-essential?
[11:33] <Yoyoto> yep
[11:33] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  i just let it auto-update/subscribe at the start after i install it.. and i never notice them after that
[11:33] <Bobbino> simplexio: I have no idea... It's an NTFS drive...
[11:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, hmm.. let me see.. I will go over that guide again
[11:34] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis; how long did it take to update, cause either mine is updating really REALLY slowly, or its a very large file, or the server is down
[11:35] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  almost instantly as far as i recall
[11:35] <simplexio> Bobbino: dosent just mount /that/drive work ?, i have problem thanks to some mount options that ntfs drives wont get mounted on boot, but after login it just works
[11:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, which version of ubuntu are you using
[11:35] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, alright, well, I'll try again in a bit
[11:35] <mrwes> Hey, what do I type on the box to connect to a Rhthymbox share? just the IP number?
[11:35] <Yoyoto> ....the wubi one? my plan was to see if I could get ndiswrapper to work then seriously change
[11:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, hmm.. to be honest I would never recommend using wubi
[11:36] <Bobbino> simplexio: it won't mount at all... It used to mount on boot...
[11:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, have you tried a live cd to see if it picks up your wireless itself?
[11:36] <simplexio> Bobbino: what error its gives when you try mount it from console
[11:36] <Yoyoto> noooppeeee
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, download the latest release and give it a spin
[11:37] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I don't know much about live CDs I'm assuming thats when I boot from a disk
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yes
[11:37] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, server must be down or somethin, cause Mine still has nothing from the local list, but its already got one from bloody Germany
[11:37] <Bobbino> simplexio: mount: can't find Robins Dive in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:37] <imaginativeone> how do I disable the system debugger?
[11:37] <ibe> hgxdth
[11:37] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire I've never made a boot disk..........
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, it is the recommended method for everyone
[11:37] <ibe> lppp
[11:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, its easy.. if you are in windows download imgburn install it (its small) then download the latest ubuntu 8.10 release and burn it using imgburn
[11:38] <mrwes> Hey, what do I type on the box to connect to a Rhthymbox DAAP share? just the IP number?
[11:39] <Yoyoto> since I'm already on this... can I just do it from here?
[11:39] <simplexio> Bobbino: reason is that you have defined it in fstab or you try mount just wrong place... exept that you probably mean that that one automatic mount system wont work anymore
[11:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yes
[11:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, that would be better.. I though you where working from a different computer :P
[11:39] <Bobbino> simplexio: so redefining it in fstab should sort it?
[11:41] <Yoyoto> nah, I took the wired connection from my seeding computer
[11:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, 2 sec
[11:41] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire is it just me or are my download speeds alot faster on ubuntu then on xp?
[11:41] <nonix4> Is gnome-screensaver deadlocking with kvm vnc running within the same session a known problem?
[11:41] <simplexio> Bobbino: well that is the old way how i do it, jut add entry: UUID=your-ntfs-drive-uuid /place/to/mount ntfs-3g user,gid=100 0 0
[11:42] <imaginativeone> how do I disable my system debugger?
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, sometimes that can happen.. I believe its something to do with windows QoS
[11:42] <Bobbino> simplexio: that's what I did the first time. Is there a better way to do it?
[11:42] <nonix4> (or any other program that grabs mouse most likely)
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:42] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire, well all the more reason to switch
[11:42] <Yoyoto> I'm already halfway through the download
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> great
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, do I have time to make myself a cup of tea?? hehe
[11:43] <simplexio> Bobbino: well notreally. isnt old line there anymore ?
[11:43] <r0ny> hi any idea why my tomcat listening only on tcp6
[11:43] <Yoyoto> Paddy_eire, Yeah I might aswell make myself some coffee this seems to be a long process
[11:43] <Bobbino> simplexio: yeah, the line is still in fstab
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, wont be much loner.. you just got started using a method which is not really all that reliable
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> *longer
[11:44] <Paddy_EIRE> finger crossed
[11:44] <simplexio> Bobbino: you need tyo use mount command like mount /whole/path
[11:44] <simplexio> Bobbino: then you should get different error
[11:45] <Bobbino> simplexio: http://pastebin.com/m4852f664
[11:46] <Bobbino> simplexio: guess I'm off into windows, Thanks for your help :)
[11:47] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:47] <simplexio> Bobbino: it seems that for somereason ntfs oartition is got dirty, boot to windows and run fdisk
[11:47] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I can burn it to dvd right?
[11:48] <r0ny> hi can i get the repository of ubuntu,so that i can download tomcat from ubuntu repository?
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, no
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, standard cd-r
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> or rw
[11:48] <Yoyoto> ffs I don't think I have any regular cds
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[11:49] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire can I be creative and put it on my iPod to boot from?
[11:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !install
[11:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, possibly.. although its not a method I have familiarised myself with just yet
[11:49] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:49] <kristian1> if i "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" i will install openssh-server that will run automatically always, eve after reboot, correct?
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:50] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire it says DVD
[11:50] <Kelen> kristian1: correct.
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, oh!
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, let me check that
[11:51] <kristian1> Kelen : alright, thanks. :)
[11:51] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:51] <Kelen> kristian1: but it's not recommend.
[11:51] <mchelen1> is there any ubuntu based livecd that will run on 128mb of ram?
[11:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, under the "what do I need" section on ubuntu's site it says £A blank CD and the ability to “burn” blank CDs"
[11:52] <kristian1> Kelen : why not?
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, dvd's layout is a lot different
[11:52] <ILikeFedora> Anyone know how to remove the "Applications" text from the GNOME start panel?
[11:52] <Yoyoto> UGHH I think my cd drive is broken
[11:52] <ILikeFedora> I just want to display an icon
[11:52] <juro> hi, how can I make a screenshot when a menu of an application is open?
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, try the usb method.. it may even be fun/useful
[11:52] <Kelen> It's bring a little risk for you. i think..
[11:53] <Yoyoto> it probably won't work
[11:53] <Kelen> kristian1: It's bring a little risk for you, i think.
[11:53] <onats> what's the best way to partition 500GB for ubuntu?
[11:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, you are doomed to failure if you insist on being negative :)
[11:53] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[11:53] <kristian1> Kelen : only if someone manages to guess my username/password? anyways, my router is blocking all ports. i am only sshing over wlan atm.
[11:53] <chandru_in> hi when I go into the guest session, the guest session starts with human theme but once start up is complete, the theme is completely lost
[11:53] <onats> i will be putting 2 databases in it, apache, virtualbox images.
[11:54] <onats> also, i have 4 GB of ram, expanding it to 8 GB in the future. what's the size of the swap space that i should use/
[11:54] <kristian1> Kelen : and if i do open it up for the internet then i guess i could configure it some how to only accept certain ips to login? hopefylly!
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, it is really down to your personal preference.. but I would always reserve at least 20 gb for root /
[11:54] <Kelen> kristian1: well, unless you alwasy needs someone control your system.
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, that does not include your home dir
[11:55] <chandru_in> Does any one else here face the same problem?
[11:55] <onats> paddy_eire, for databases like mysql and postgre, where does the bulk of the DB get stored into?
[11:55] <marko-_->  caution: filename not matched:  Dangerous Minds [XviD].srt <--- why do i get this when i want to unzip someting ?
[11:55] <ech0s7> hi
[11:56] <ech0s7> anyone have an ati hd3470 ?
[11:56] <Yoyoto> what can I use to burn it?
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, I am not sure on that one mate..  I dont use those normally myself
[11:56] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | ech0s7
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, right click the .iso file and select write to disc
[11:56] <Boohbah> Yoyoto: cdrecord
[11:56] <ILikeFedora> Anyone know how to display just the start-here icon, instead of the words "Applications"
[11:57] <ech0s7> DIFH-iceroot: i would know if anyone have hd3470!
[11:57] <radioman{LT}> delete aplication
[11:57] <radioman{LT}> add icon
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, dont use cdrecord its a cli app you will have difficulty
[11:57] <ILikeFedora> Ah, I'll try that
[11:58] <Yoyoto> well dvds are not working
[11:58] <nonix4> ech0s7: apparently not - maybe that is a vaporware product? ;)
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, i told you
[11:59] <ech0s7> nonix4: what vaporware means ?
[11:59] <tjgillespie> hi all, how do i tell apt that i have installed a dependecy manually?
[11:59] <kristian1> can i store any kind of file (windows file) on my ubuntu machine, when downloading via rtorrent? filesystem: ext3/ext2/xfs
[11:59] <DIFH-iceroot> kristian1: sure
[12:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, you really should just get a pack of blank cds they are extremely cheap now
[12:00] <chandru_in> onats: MySQL's data is usually in /var/lib/mysql
[12:00] <kristian1> DIFH-iceroot : so the filesystem won't matter? i can still save the data?
[12:00] <DIFH-iceroot> kristian1: yes
[12:00] <perlmonkey> hi, can anyone tell me the status with Qpopper in Ubuntu? I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and have been unable to get Qpopper working (when I check mail client reports mail server is unavailable, and qpopper doesn't seem to be running)...any info available?
[12:00] <sabayonlive-4644> ciao
[12:00] <kristian1> DIFH-iceroot : ok, thanks for confirming. :)
[12:01] <sabayonlive-4644> hi
[12:01] <sabayonlive-4644> do you using ubuntu ?
[12:01] <ILikeFedora> quit
[12:02] <br0k3d> how do i know my race in USA ?
[12:02] <br0k3d> In Beazil im very prould for being white
[12:02] <ech0s7> nonix4: what vaporware does means ?
[12:02] <br0k3d> In Brazil im very prould for being white
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | br0k3d
[12:02] <bazhang> br0k3d, stop
[12:02] <br0k3d> sorry, sir
[12:03] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire it's impossible
[12:03] <br0k3d> What the race of Ubuntu programmers ?
[12:03] <Yoyoto> I don't know how to install unetbootin
[12:03] <chandru_in> when I go into the guest session, the guest session starts with human theme but once start up is complete, the theme is completely lost
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, to buy cd's??
[12:03] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire all my CDs are at school
[12:03] <sabayonlive-4644> i have ubuntu into my hd but im using sabayon live
[12:03] <Yoyoto> but I can't use a wired connection there
[12:03] <tc_> hi all. i have some questions about grub .. i cant get any splash image to work.. is their a person here willing to help me with that ?
[12:04] <progex> quit
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, if you do not want to tackle installing from usb stick then I suggest you wait till you have cd's
[12:04] <perlmonkey> whats the best pop3 server to run with Postfix?
[12:04] <Yoyoto> I guess tomorrow then
[12:04] <tjgillespie> anyone? is there something like /etc/apt/provided?
[12:04] <sabayonlive-4644> i have a question for you
[12:04] <perlmonkey> i've tried dovecot but it keeps spawning too many processes
[12:04] <Yoyoto> well thanks for the help, I'm going to try to get a few hours of sleep, even though I wasted like 4
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yeah.. otherwise this will just frustrate you and I :)
[12:04] <Yoyoto> goodnight/morning
[12:05] <sabayonlive-4644> ubuntu is better than sabayon ?
[12:05] <Boohbah> sabayonlive-4644: no, sabayon linux is not supported in the ubuntu channel
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> later
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, do you have a ubuntu support question?
[12:05] <perlmonkey> anyone any comments/suggestions on best pop3 server to work with Postfix MTA?
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !best
[12:06] <tokam> hi
[12:06] <tokam> http://rafb.net/p/NK2wwp75.html
[12:06] <tokam> what to do now?
[12:06] <perlmonkey> for the benefit of mr Paddy: best ~ most popular
[12:06] <brutus> Hey, my USB drive isn't mounting, even though I've selected automount from Removable Devices and Media. What's the problem?
[12:06] <irooty12> hey all
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !de | tokam
[12:07] <sabayonlive-4644> i dont like ubuntu for the theme
[12:07] <coldstove> I changed the theme myself
[12:07] <Tobias|> Why not just change the theme?
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, unless you have a support question take the chat elsewhere
[12:07] <tokam> thx Paddy_EIRE but i asked you in english ?!?
[12:07] <sabayonlive-4644> how i can chenge my desktop
[12:07] <irooty12> Hey does anyone know how to edit the screen resolution ?
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> tokam, yes I know.. I am just trying to get you the best possible support
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, in the appearances preferences panel
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, right click change background
[12:08] <sabayonlive-4644> i know this
[12:08] <sabayonlive-4644> but i dont like the themes
[12:08] <Tobias|> http://gnome-art.com
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, then what do you mean; the wm?
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !art
[12:09] <irooty12> Can someone help me change the screen resolution i tried from the preference but it shows only 680/480
[12:09] <bazhang> irooty12, what vid card
[12:09] <Speppa> hello
[12:09] <sabayonlive-4644> for exemple sabayon's theme is beautiful
[12:09] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, check gnome-look.org
[12:09] <irooty12> Geforce FX 5500 256 MB
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, take the chat elsewhere please
[12:09] <Tobias|> sabayonlive-4644, stop trolling.
[12:09] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, yes it is, please chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <tokam> hi i had a reconnect
[12:10] <bazhang> irooty12, did you install nvidia-settings
[12:10] <tokam> http://rafb.net/p/NK2wwp75.html
[12:10] <irooty12> Yes
[12:10] <irooty12> And updated it
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | tokam
[12:10] <krishnan> what is the name of the file that displays the "404 URL not found on this server" error in hardy?
[12:10] <Speppa> I've installed the trial of clonecd, but it doesn't run: it says that I've to reboot the pc but I've already done
[12:10] <kestutis> hello, where is games forubuntu??
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, this is not a ubuntu related question
[12:10] <kestutis> who knows?
[12:11] <bazhang> irooty12, which hardware driver are you using and what version of ubuntu
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> !games | kestutis
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[12:11] <kestutis> 5.1
[12:11] <sabayonlive-4644> i'm italian
[12:11] <irooty12> verison 8.01 but what do you mean what hardware?
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, clonecd is a windows application
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, I've installed it with wine and I use ubuntu 8.04
[12:11] <bazhang> irooty12, 8.01?
[12:11] <kestutis> im lithuanian
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, I know.
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, we dont support windows software here
[12:11] <Speppa> sese bravi bravi
[12:11] <wers> is it possible to login to guest directly from GDM? if so, how?
[12:11] <Speppa> thanks
[12:12] <bazhang> Speppa, check the appdb
[12:12] <sabayonlive-4644> there are any italian ?
[12:12] <bazhang> oops
[12:12] <kestutis> no
[12:12] <bazhang> !it
[12:12] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, /join #ubuntu-it for italian
[12:12] <irooty12> bazhang yep thats what it showed in the startup i installed it via Wubi
[12:12] <bazhang> irooty12, aha wubi
[12:12] <kestutis> plz talk in english only
[12:13] <coldstove> ubottu is a bot
[12:13] <bazhang> irooty12, you mean 8.04 or 8.10
[12:13] <irooty12> yea 8.10
[12:13] <onats> how should i partition my 500GB hard drive? have 4GB of ram, will expand to 8..
[12:13] <beastax> is kernel-pae not available in the apt repos?
[12:13] <bazhang> irooty12, wubi is a short term solution in my opinion, no real experience with that one
[12:13] <beastax> i cant seem to find it
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !pae | beastax
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[12:14] <bazhang> irooty12, do you  see hardware drivers in system admin
[12:14] <beastax> !PAE
[12:14] <irooty12> Yes  my Nivdia driver but it doesnt show there either it just show 680/480
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, aint that to do with suse??
[12:14] <quizme> i think i broke my gnome.  everything looks ugly now.
[12:14] <beastax> Paddy_EIRE, apparently not
[12:14] <quizme> how do i fix it ?
[12:15] <bazhang> irooty12, you are addressing me? please use my nick then or I'll miss it
[12:15] <bazhang> irooty12, which driver are you using
[12:15] <ardchoille> beastax: I don't think so:  apt-cache search -n kernel | grep pea
[12:15] <beastax> unless ubuntu just uses bigmem
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, ah I see what you want
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, yeah highmem or something
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[12:15] <beastax> aah, its ok then, i know what im doing if its highmem
[12:16] <beastax> cheers
[12:16] <quizme> i think i'm using the wrong graphics setting for gnome
[12:16] <quizme> how do i reinstall gnome ?
[12:16] <david__> ?
[12:16] <bazhang> quizme, `what do you mean
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> beasty_, cool
[12:16] <bazhang> quizme you mean the ubuntu-desktop package or something else
[12:16] <quizme> bazhang: the fonts are not clear and scrips
[12:16] <irooty12> bazhang i am using NVidia X Server Setting
[12:17] <bazhang> irooty12, what driver; you have a number no doubt
[12:17] <bazhang> quizme, that has do with fonts then
[12:17] <f00fyf00f3rz> hello world
[12:17] <quizme> bazhang: i'm not sure.  i right clicked to change my background image.  now the colors are not display correctly.
[12:18] <quizme> i played around with a lot of desktop settings
[12:18] <quizme> and i tried to install a different gnome theme
[12:18] <bazhang> quizme, sounds like you need to swap out themes
[12:18] <quizme> bazhang how do i do that ?
[12:18] <bazhang> quizme, were you playing around with a lot of theme sets and icons sets?
[12:19] <irooty12> bazhang: i am not sure do you mean the version type Nvidia Driver Version173.14.12
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, yep
[12:19] <irooty12> Yea thats it
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, and what did nvidia-settings offer when you ran it
[12:19] <irooty12> bazhang it offerd me the same as perfernce 680/480
[12:19] <quizme> bazhang: yes
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, did you enable the driver then reboot?
[12:20] <irooty12> Yes i activated it and rebooted
[12:20] <Boohbah> f00fyf00f3rz: my, you have a lot of zeroes!
[12:20] <bazhang> irooty12, any reason to use wubi instead of a simple dual boot install?
[12:20] <RAk> hi all
[12:20] <quizme> when i log out, everything looks good
[12:20] <irooty12> bazhang well i wanted to have windows and ubuntu so thats the proggi i knew
[12:21] <quizme> but after i log in, it looks messed up
[12:21] <bazhang> quizme, how do you reverse all that you done with the themes and icons sets?
[12:21] <hothollas> I am trying to listen to Johnny Cash's 'Help Me' in mp3.  But I get an error saying " audio/x-asf plugin missing".  A blood clot tins is this?
[12:21] <RAk> I need to install a desktop for browsing, flash/java/multimedia support for firefox, can I go for amd64 release or stick to i386 ?
[12:21] <quizme> bazhang: i don't know
[12:21] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, 64bit is well supported
[12:21] <bazhang> hothollas, which app
[12:21] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: bad advice
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, and its currently the recommended version
[12:22] <hothollas> bazhang:  movie player.
[12:22] <bazhang> Boohbah, please stop
[12:22] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: even the flash banners would work nice, like no tweaking or 3rd party things would be needed ?
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, read up on things dude
[12:22] <irooty12> bazhang any solution
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, instead of issuing blind nonsense
[12:22] <quizme> bazhang: when i log into another account it looks normal.
[12:22] <hothollas> bazhang:  for some reason, the icon is of  a movie and not the notes of an mp3.
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, adobe-flashplugin
[12:22] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: ok, I check a close mirror...
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> is now 64 bit
[12:22] <bazhang> irooty12, I'm not familair with wubi; perhaps if you repeat your question here every so often someone else will be able to help sorry
[12:23] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I had an issue years ago with flash not working on amd64 ;) that's why I asked
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, okay
[12:23] <irooty12> bazhang, kk np thanks though
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, this is via firefox then?
[12:23] <f00fyf00f3rz> boohbah: yes i do
[12:23] <hothollas> bazhang: yes.
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, times have changed... apparently Boohbah is still burning witches
[12:23] <hothollas> bazhang: how do you mean, firefox?
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, did you install the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[12:24] <Flannel> irooty12, bazhang: Except the boot process itself (and the fact that hard disk access is abstracted), a wubi install is the same as any other.  Normal video issues (and fixes) apply, etc.
[12:24] <hothollas> bazhang: hmm. not that I recall.  maybe update manger did it for me... :p
[12:24] <RAk> so, 8.10 and 64bit version is downloading...
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, Boohbah https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:24] <bazhang> hothollas, not unless you instructed it to do so
[12:25] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, adobe release flash 10 for linux 32bit and 64bit lately.. its in the partners repository
[12:25] <bazhang> hothollas, install ubuntu-restricted-extras from synaptic package manger
[12:25] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I enable mostly universe/multiverse
[12:25] <hothollas> bazhang:  so I would have to go to firefox add-ons?
[12:25] <hothollas> bazhang: sorry.  is that a repository?
[12:25] <bazhang> hothollas, not a ff add-on, via repos
[12:26] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, well enable the partners repo aswell if you want no hassles
[12:26] <f00fyf00f3rz> irooty12 do you have a wubi question?
[12:26] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I will
[12:26] <quizme> if i type in sudo -u david it still prompts me for the elvie user
[12:26] <Flannel> quizme: that's correct.  It needs your password
[12:27] <hothollas> bazhang: when I do a search for ubuntu-restricted-extras in synaptic, it shows that ver. 10 is already installed.
[12:27] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does 'TP' mean?
[12:27] <bazhang> quizme, you should reset to a different theme via appearances manager
[12:27] <bazhang> hothollas, in browser window type about:plugins
[12:28] <hothollas> bazhang:  ok did that.  what should I look for?
[12:29] <hothollas> bazhang:   I see audio/mpeg
[12:29] <bazhang> hothollas, do you see the mplayer plugin (also might be vlc)
[12:29] <magnetron> bullgard4→ Twisted Pair
[12:29] <magnetron> bullgard4→ it's the standard ethernet cable
[12:30] <jm> helo
[12:30] <perlmonkey> I'm having a curious problem with apache2 (running under Ubuntu 8.04).. for some reason apache stops logging and log files are overwritten to zero bytes. My thought on this is that perhaps that apache2 might be crashing and restarting, perhaps as a different user. any suggestions?
[12:30] <jm> 123456
[12:30] <bullgard4> magnetron: Ah! That was too simple. :-)
[12:30] <bazhang> hothollas, and your system plays mp3 fine except for streaming via firefox? ie if you have one on your system and play with rhythmbox
[12:30] <jm> #roms
[12:30] <Flannel> jm: Please don't
[12:30] <RAk> perlmonkey: or logfile size is set to 0 ?
[12:30] <magnetron> bullgard4→ MII is the extensions for controlling speed and duplex
[12:31] <RAk> perlmonkey: or logrotate makes a booboo
[12:31] <Flannel> perlmonkey: That could be (although I'd personally think that's far fetched), probably more likely its a log rotate issue
[12:31] <bullgard4> magnetron: Ok. Thank you.
[12:31] <hothollas> bazhang:  yes.  all other mp3s play fine.  and this is an mp3 file, not  a stream, but rythmbox won't play it.
[12:31] <RAk> perlmonkey: or no space left on the device
[12:31] <hothollas> bazhang: and I have mplayer2, not mplayer
[12:31] <funbitz1> anyone using utorrent with wine? how can I set .torrent files to open automatically with utorrent?
[12:32] <bazhang> hothollas, did you install w32codecs from medibuntu.org ? that sometimes will help
[12:32] <hothollas> bazhang: sorry, in the plugins page only mplayer2 appears, I meant to say.
[12:32] <tiyowan> funbitz1: Why don't you just use one of the linux clients?
[12:32] <bazhang> hothollas, you just install the package from there dont need the repo
[12:33] <Tefx> good afternoon dear fellosws of u butnu im now sick fo tryign to figure this out on my own but aptitude and apt get seem to have momenumentaly screwed up i dunn were the errors are what the errors ar eand twjy the hells it isnt doign things properly lols i was wonderign if soemone could come tak a look for me
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang: please tell me that won't break my system.  sorry for the noob question.
[12:33] <bazhang> hothollas, what version of ubuntu
[12:33] <nachohi88> hi
[12:33] <Flannel> Tefx: Please pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) the following output: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang:  gutsy
[12:33] <bazhang> Tefx, what does sudo apt-get update  return please pastebin
[12:33] <bazhang> oops
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang: 7.10
[12:34] <nachohi88> need some help.. don't know if its a problem but
[12:34] <Flannel> Tefx: actually, just pastebin this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:34] <funbitz1> tiyowan: what are the best linux native alternatives?
[12:34] <bazhang> hothollas, no its fine
[12:34] <nachohi88> got 2 kernels on my grub after update
[12:34] <hothollas> bazhang: I'll try
[12:34] <bazhang> nachohi88, that is normal and ok
[12:34] <Flannel> Tefx: What version of Ubuntu are you running? and what were you trying to o when it broke?
[12:34] <tiyowan> funbitz1: I personally use Transmission. rtorrent's good, too, if you use CLI.
[12:35] <nachohi88> so don't need to kill the old one? it`s not gonna cause a conflict in future or anything?
[12:36] <bazhang> nachohi88, you may want to hang to an extra one
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> nachohi88, no you do not have to.. although you can remove unneeded cruft by doing "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[12:36] <Flannel> nachohi88: Nope.  The only problem they cause is that they take up disk space.  Its actually safe to leave one or two around, in case of kernel regressions.  You can remove them through your favorite package manager, just remove the corresponding linux-image-[version] package
[12:36] <bazhang> nachohi88, the space save is neglibile
[12:37] <nachohi88> ok thanks
[12:37] <quizme> i copied the .gconf file from another user now everything is normal
[12:37] <quizme> i mean .gconf directory
[12:37] <jim_p> woooo hooo! i found a replacement for wicd too!
[12:37] <hothollas> bazhang: I get an "error: a later version is already installed".
[12:38] <quizme> what's a good chat program for Ubuntu?
[12:38] <bazhang> hothollas, is this a true mp3 or a drm'd version
[12:38] <nachohi88> irc
[12:38] <nachohi88> xchat
[12:38] <SilvestreYComun> this is great
[12:38] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, well you can chat to just about any program you desire ;)
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> wanna be more specific
[12:39] <KaZeR> hey guys. anyone here playing 1080p content using ubuntu?
[12:39] <hothollas> bazhang: good question.  I don't know
[12:39] <quizme> i don't understand
[12:39] <bazhang> hothollas, that might be the issue if all others play okay
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, I recommend empathy
[12:39] <bazhang> hothollas, ie that particular file and not the codecs per se
[12:39] <Boohbah> quizme: irssi
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !info empathy | quizme
[12:40] <quizme> boohbah thanks
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> and for IRC quizme if you want a gui use xchat or for cli irssi
[12:40] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, Can someone tell me where the configuration for xkb is saved in Ubuntu 8.10?
[12:40] <hothollas> bazhang:  I see.  I thank you for all your input.  now the next order of business is to start a ubuntu-jamaica channel
[12:40] <hothollas> bazhang: thanks again for your time.  much appreciated.
[12:41] <bazhang> hothollas, /msg ubottu loco
[12:41] <Flannel> hothollas: There already is, actually.  #ubuntu-jm
[12:41] <bazhang> ooh
[12:41] <hothollas> Flannel: star.  ya large.  ya donne no!
[12:41] <hothollas> Flannel: thanks
[12:41] <arthur_8200> Hi
[12:42] <Flannel> hothollas: Although, that seems to be the only LoCo resource listed.  You should look into setting up a proper LoCo team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams  but this belongs in #ubuntu-locoteams
[12:42] <hothollas> Flannel: there is only I in the ubuntu-jm channel
[12:42] <arthur_8200> I have just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and now flash and java works just great in firefox 64bit but not in opera...
[12:42] <pim> Hello, since which version has Ubuntu gone to pulseaudio?
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> pim, gutsy
[12:43] <hothollas> Flannel: RIght.  a proper channel needs to be set up.  I can't exchange ideas with only myself
[12:43] <Flannel> hothollas: Alright, the page is wrong then.  #ubuntu-locoteams is the place to go to ask about setting up a channel, that page also has a "Start a Team" link, which will walk you through it as well.
[12:43] <pim> I seem to be having some trouble with it, it won't save my sound settings.
[12:43] <hothollas> Flannel: very well. big up
[12:44] <Tefx> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/85103/ apt-get update which seems to work
[12:46] <Flannel> Tefx: And the sudo apt-get upgrade?  What wereyou doing when it broke?
[12:46] <ardchoille> Flannel: Would being logged in as root have anything to do with that?
[12:48] <Flannel> ardchoille: Not as far as functionality goes.  It's indicative of other systemic issues (lack of understanding of how ubuntu does stuff, for example) though.  Especially mixed with the "stable" repos, which may be debian specific (or may not), and also the fact that he has -proposed enabled.
[12:48] <saywot> I'm trying to get   an Intrepid Ibex'ed laptop to connect wirelessly to the internet, it's got a broadcom chip but Network manager won't connect even though the drivers are installed and all the details have been entered into MN
[12:48] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, ok
[12:48] <Tefx> trying to reinstall dtc control panel
[12:49] <Tefx> Flannel,
[12:49] <Tefx> and then it tried downlaodign it btu it woudlent pill it dependancies which it had doen everytime before
[12:49] <Tefx> and no its jsut thogows a fit when i try to downlaod anyhtign sumamt to do withthat file
[12:50] <Flannel> Tefx: Alright, we're talking about dtc-postfix-courier, correct?
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, take a look at that
[12:50] <perlmonkey> whats the adm group?
[12:50] <Tefx> im talkgin abotu the full dtc control panel
[12:51] <Tefx> postfix may have eban wat screwed it up tho
[12:51] <perlmonkey> adm group = root group?
[12:51] <Tefx> Flannel,
[12:51] <quizme> are there any other browsers better than firefox ?
[12:51] <Tefx> sorry keep forget to tag ur naem into the paragraphs
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !better | quizme
[12:51] <Flannel> Tefx: Right, the package is dtc-courier-postfix, correct?
[12:51] <scientes_> so graphics acceleration work when doing X over the net? it must
[12:51] <saywot> quizme: - Opera ?
[12:51] <Tefx> no theres 2 package i can pull
[12:51] <Tefx> cos i have an extra reposatory added
[12:52] <BlueEagle> Why am I seeing a storm of people attempting to connect to TCP port 6914? Has anyone else seen this and know the cause?
[12:52] <quizme> saywot: thanks
[12:52] <Tefx> there is dtc ont he ubuntu repos
[12:52] <perlmonkey> is it necessary to run any command after updating /etc/group?
[12:52] <wsco> where i can get drivers for ubuntu
[12:52] <Flannel> perlmonkey: adm is for system monitoring stuffs, can do stuff with /var/log, it's the 'admin' group that gives the ability to sudo
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Flannel, I always enable proposed updates too... I know its bad advice but heh
[12:52] <Tefx> which is the whoel control pael thats what i origanely used and tried to use again
[12:52] <saywot> wsco: what sort ?
[12:52] <perlmonkey> Flannel: excellent, thanks
[12:53] <Tefx> and then there dtc-core which is the latest vertion on the custom repo Flannel
[12:53] <saywot> wsco: operating systems don't need drivers, hardware does
[12:53] <Flannel> Tefx: Alright.  So, can we please see what the output of `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` gives you?
[12:53] <wsco> saywot: hardware drivers
[12:53] <Tefx> and dist-upgrade has froze on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic
[12:53] <BlueEagle> perlmonkey: You would need to log out and back in for new groups to take effect.
[12:54] <dabadan> hi, i have a logitech mx518 mouse and all keys are working (checked by typing "xev" in console). is there a way in gnome i can bind functions to it?
[12:54] <Tefx> Flannel,  i woudl btu it hasent finnish and it bean sta on that for abotu 5 mins
[12:54] <perlmonkey> ok. what if the user doesnt need to login
[12:54] <saywot> wsco: any specifics ?, most are included when the device is installed; or when Ubuntu is installed
[12:54] <quizme> does skype work for linux ?
[12:54] <Flannel> perlmonkey: Also, don't manually edit groups, there's no reason to do that (wee have a number of utilities, the easiest way is `adduser user group`
[12:54] <perlmonkey> quizme: yes
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, is that english?
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, :P
[12:54] <quizme> perlmonkey: sweet
[12:54] <perlmonkey> quizme: i have it working for ubuntu
[12:54] <Tefx> woudl be if i hadent just woke up
[12:54] <TecR0c> What is a good router to get to make sure you secure your home network?
[12:54] <Tefx> plus im dyspraxic and dyslexic
[12:55] <saywot> quizme: yep, it does, you should have a look at "Skype For Linux"
[12:55] <perlmonkey> Flannel: ok noted, many thanks
[12:55] <Tefx> arg why the fuck has dist-upgrade froze
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, no probs bud
[12:55] <quizme> saywot: thanks
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !language
[12:55] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Any router that supports wpa
[12:55] <Flannel> Tefx: Please watch your language.  It likely ran out of space.
[12:55] <Tefx> highly doutb it
[12:55] <Flannel> Tefx: ctrl-c that, and check too see if it warns you about space
[12:55] <Tefx> its my dedicated server my box shodul have plenny
[12:56] <dabadan> is it possible to bind actions to mouse buttons in gnome?
[12:56] <saywot> TecRoc: any that has WPA security
[12:56] <Tefx> how can i check hwo mcuh space boot has
[12:56] <Flannel> Tefx: df
[12:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, df -h
[12:56] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: It might still run out of space on a dedicatet partition unless you run everything in /
[12:56] <Flannel> Tefx: Check / and /boot
[12:56] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Taht was meant for Tefx
[12:57] <saywot> OK I'll try again: why does NetworkManager seem unable to negotiate a successful wireless connection to my network ?
[12:57] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, it only needs WPA if i am doing it wirelessly?
[12:57] <Tefx> yeh loposk liek boot might be otu of space losl
[12:57] <Tefx> 41 used outa 46
[12:57] <saywot> I have the 'restricted drivers' for the Broadcom card installed, and have tried editing connections/deleting re-creating connections
[12:58] <lvdbing> what?
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> saywot, buddy driver
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> *buggy
[12:58] <sybux> hi all
[12:58] <sybux> I'm looking for a little application to create DVD cover under gnome
[12:58] <Tefx> i dont realy wanna cancel dist-upgrade on initrd cos that coudl monumently cock up boot up
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: alright, so you'll have to specify that package to be removed (you can't do any other package stuffs until you've fixed/removed the broken package)
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: No, it wont
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: And again, watch your language
[12:58] <saywot> it wasn't buggy when I had the same driver-set installed in the same laptop running Fedora 9
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, I already told you earlier
[12:58] <Tefx> sorry
[12:59] <sybux> Paddy_EIRE: ??? sure ? because I just wake up and connect
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, hmm..
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, well use either inkscape or gimp
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> there are many others
[13:00] <RenatoSilva> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NOE8xiC_Bo&feature=related
[13:00] <sybux> Paddy_EIRE: thanks you
[13:00] <saywot> assuming the driver is buggy how might one proceed to make a connection without having to resort to the horrid ndiswrapper stuff ?
[13:00] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, your link is good but it only explains flash - which already works. What I am searching for is java on 64bit opera
[13:01] <^wotr^biomass> sybux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452364
[13:01] <Tefx> Flannel, woudl it be safe to remove the .bak up vertions of initrd
[13:01] <Tefx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85110/
[13:01] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, hmm
[13:01] <Flannel> Paddy_EIRE, sybux: Inkscape has DVD cover ... um, templates, I guess you'd call them
[13:02] <RenatoSilva> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-0SjA1Qxug&NR=1
[13:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Flannel, sybux   yeah there is also koverartist its a kde app but looks great
[13:02] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, its kind of strange.. because in firefox64 java works
[13:02] <Flannel> RenatoSilva: Please don't do that here
[13:02] <imachine> hey
[13:02] <icesword> RenatoSilva, what's up
[13:02] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Well if you're doing it wired then the router is not the one that should be doing the security unless it's a router/firewall solution.
[13:02] <imachine> got some more issues with ubuntu 8.10 bootup
[13:02] <icesword> RenatoSilva, someone will ban you here
[13:02] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, have you checked operas preferences?
[13:02] <Flannel> Tefx: That's all the space you have in /boot?
[13:02] <imachine> I migrated 8,04 to 8,10 and I have issues with NM-applet not showing up.
[13:02] <imachine> it shows on my gf's account tho.
[13:02] <imachine> so I'm thinking it's some local user config issue.
[13:03] <imachine> I can obviously provide the error message if anyone cares to help out :)
[13:03] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, yeah and also java path.. and it says "looks like correct path"... but doesn't work
[13:03] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, the router is a router/firewall, however, i thought maybe using a PC as a firewall would be a better idea?
[13:03] <Karn> hi, anyone know a way to have a command start on login with a delay so you can cancel if desired?
[13:03] <saywot> imachine: there's a thread about the applet in the Ubuntu forum
[13:03] <Tefx> yeh i didnt set it up it was set up bymy server providers
[13:03] <Tefx> Flannel,
[13:03] <quackquack> bonjour
[13:03] <Flannel> Tefx: That's really not very functional at all.  Yeah, go ahead and remove the .bak I suppose.
[13:03] <saywot> adieu
[13:04] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: That depends on what features are availible on the router/firewall you already have. I'm not sure how well upnp is supported in linux or how difficult it is to set up.
[13:04] <imachine> saywot, could you care to point me at the right direction ?
[13:04] <Tefx> is there any way i can increase the size
[13:04] <usuario> carmen
[13:04] <RenatoSilva> Flannel: see them
[13:04] <Tefx> in a partioner
[13:04] <usuario> hola
[13:04] <RenatoSilva> icesword: see them
[13:04] <usuario> hello
[13:04] <bazhang> RenatoSilva, its offtopic
[13:04] <Flannel> Tefx: Are they on LVM?
[13:04] <usuario> what is your name?
[13:04] <usuario> ,mn
[13:04] <Tefx> doub tit think there soskid partions
[13:04] <saywot> imachine: you want me to search the ubuntu networking and wireless forum for you ?
[13:04] <Tefx> solid partions*
[13:05] <imachine> saywot, I'll sort it thanks
[13:05] <usuario> ok
[13:05] <imachine> saywot, what forum is taht tho ?
[13:05] <usuario> im from to spain
[13:05] <Flannel> Tefx: you can only resize partitions if they're not mounted.  So it's unlikely.
[13:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !es | usuario
[13:05] <BlueEagle> !offtopic | usuario
[13:05] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, i have a netgear adsl firewall router
[13:05] <usuario> hola
[13:05] <BlueEagle> !es | usuario
[13:05] <livebrain> ppl i'm trying to boot ubuntu for the first time. but i keep getting "sda1 does not exist" dropping to a sheel
[13:05] <quackquack> french or england?
[13:06] <imachine> saywot, ok got it
[13:06] <TecR0c> and the firewall configuration seems to be a little limited.
[13:06] <saywot> imachine; http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[13:06] <livebrain> i changed the menu.lst and fstab to include sda1
[13:06] <livebrain> but still no luck
[13:06] <usuario> adios
[13:06] <usuario> bye
[13:06] <TecR0c> Do you think it would be best to go setup smoothwall or something like that ?
[13:06] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Well, what I would look for in a dedicated router/firewall was the ability set up nat, a dmz-server and upnp.
[13:07] <livebrain> ubutu sees the first partition on the first pata disk as sda1 right ?
[13:07] <BlueEagle> livebrain: Not always
[13:07] <Tefx> flannel i havent managed to get all of the dis-upgrade but here wat my puty window didnt eat http://paste.ubuntu.com/85112/
[13:07] <BlueEagle> livebrain: Wait, for pata that might be correct.
[13:07] <quizme> what's the diff between xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[13:07] <Tefx> Flannel, *
[13:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !xfce | quicksilver_
[13:08] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, ^^
[13:08] <livebrain> and sda1 in grub is hd0,0 right ?
[13:08] <BlueEagle> livebrain: But it might depend on the boot order set in your bios if you have a mixed pata/sata setup. Also grub gets confused really quick when you've got such a setup.
[13:08] <imachine> sayyeah I got it man ta
[13:08] <acdimalev> the 'sd' part of sda1 stands for "scsi disc" I believe.  if your controller doesn't register as a scsi device, it'll be hda1
[13:08] <quizme> apt-get install gaim  <--- is that right ?
[13:08] <imachine> quizme, pidgin
[13:08] <Flannel> Tefx: so, did you dist-upgrade again and it worked fine?
[13:08] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, it does do UPNP and it talks about default dmz server which i am not sure what it does?
[13:09] <livebrain> i used slackware as an livecd
[13:09] <livebrain> and in slack it shows the disk as hda
[13:09] <Tefx> i didnt cancel it out
[13:09] <quizme> apt-get install pidgin ?
[13:09] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, gaim is no longer... it became pidgin
[13:09] <Tefx> i left it ru nign iw asent gunan kill it on initrd from bad experiances of doign that o n my home system
[13:09] <acdimalev> quizme... you aren't using ubuntu, are you
[13:09] <Tefx> when i have mo cotnrol over the solid thing
[13:10] <BlueEagle> livebrain: ie. some broken bioses report the pata disk as the first disk even if you're not booting from it and it seems like grub assumes that it's on the disk the bios reports as the first one.
[13:10] <quizme> how do i install a *.deb file ?
[13:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !install
[13:10] <Tefx> i wudnt have bean able to save it so left it runnign and freeed up the space
[13:10] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, click it
[13:10] <quizme> paddy_eire: thanks!
[13:10] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: A default dmz server is the one all trafic not blocked or redirected elsewhere (via nat or upnp and firewall)  goes to.
[13:11] <acdimalev> quizme: apt uses apt-repositories.  deb installs deb packages.  I heavily suggest reading up some bit before trying to install applications that are not within your distributions repositories.  your installation will last a lot longer if you take a bit of care.
[13:11] <livebrain> this is an laptop
[13:11] <livebrain> with only one disk
[13:12] <icqnumber> howto display a unicode character in gedit if the the number is given i.e. u+03B5?
[13:12] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: ie, I've setup my lappy as the default dmz server and if I need some ports forwarded to me I just set that up in the router and I don't need to touch the dmz.
[13:12] <livebrain> and changing hda1 or sda1 in menu.lst or fstab does nothing :X
[13:12] <livebrain> still the same error
[13:12] <acdimalev> livebrain, what are you trying to do?
[13:12] <livebrain> boot ubuntu for the first time
[13:12] <BlueEagle> Tefx: One of the advantages of using a dmz server is that the router blocks (or should block) new connections from dmz to lan.
[13:13] <livebrain> but it complains because sda1 does not exist
[13:13] <quizme> acdimalev: where can i read about that ?  It's for install skype.  I got the *.deb file from skype.
[13:13] <livebrain> but it does
[13:13] <acdimalev> livebrain, the normal installation failed?
[13:13] <nachohi88> what is a usplash?
[13:13] <livebrain> no, it all went fine during installation
[13:13] <BlueEagle> nachohi88: usplash is responsible for putting up that pretty screen while ubuntu is booting
[13:13] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, sorry i missed what you said
[13:13] <livebrain> first complained because of the uuid, coulnd find it
[13:14] <livebrain> then i changed from uuid to sda1
[13:14] <acdimalev> quizme, oh... in that case, save the deb file somewhere safe (you will want to keep it around for a long time), then install it with dpkg...
[13:14] <livebrain> now complains that it cant find sda1
[13:14] <Tefx> Flannel, right apts workign proeprly again but still gettign an error on dtc http://paste.ubuntu.com/85117/ and its saying it needs extra repos but isnt pullign them automaticly
[13:14] <acdimalev> quizme: man dpkg, and look for -i
[13:14] <nachohi88> well im trying to change that pretty screen but i can't
[13:14] <nachohi88> i use startup manager
[13:15] <acdimalev> livebrain, so after the installation, the boot from hard drive failed miserably.  are you trying to set up any kind of dual-booting?
[13:15] <quizme> acdimalev: it's half way done installing....
[13:15] <livebrain> no
[13:15] <Flannel> Tefx: Those would be packaging errors with your third party repositories.  You'd probably be best off taking it up with them.
[13:15] <livebrain> only ubuntu in this laptop
[13:15] <quizme> acdimalev: why use dpkg ?
[13:16] <acdimalev> quizme: at least the package works without any strange tweaks for you... they haven't bothered packaging it for 64-bit, so I had to repackage it myself :b
[13:16] <acdimalev> quizme: dpkg manages installation of deb files.  apt uses dpkg
[13:16] <imachine> so anyone, what can be done about this networkmanager applet not showing up ?
[13:16] <imachine> any help ?
[13:17] <livebrain> and the only way i have to install ubuntu is by pxe
[13:17] <imachine> it works on my other account.
[13:17] <imachine> no problems there.
[13:17] <imachine> same machine
[13:17] <act2bmp> hi to all, new to all this ? so I'll keep reading for now
[13:17] <quizme> acdimalev: i'm using 32 bit ubuntu 8.04.  i'm too wimpy for 64 bit
[13:17] <acdimalev> livebrain, you're doing a pxe installation????
[13:17] <livebrain> and now i have to boot slackware also by pxe chroot and then try no figure out the problem
[13:17] <livebrain> :X
[13:17] <acdimalev> livebrain, sorry man, but that sucks
[13:17] <wsco> where i can find programs for ubuntu
[13:17] <livebrain> cdrom is broken
[13:18] <acdimalev> quizme, too wimpy?
[13:18] <quizme> quizme: some apps don't work well on 64 bit, and i don't want to deal with it.
[13:19] <livebrain> i have in the menu.lst this: root (hd0,0)
[13:19] <acdimalev> quizme, my experience is that most all applications work very well, but there is a lot of misunderstanding regarding 64-bit linux, so I understand
[13:19] <livebrain> and then (..) root=/dev/sda1
[13:20] <livebrain> so why does ubuntu complains about not seeing sda1 ?
[13:20] <livebrain> blkid even shows the uuid and the device
[13:21] <quizme> in mandriva there is a cool desktop switch that rotates the desktop like a cube.  do they have that in ubuntu ?
[13:21] <nj32> ubuntu 8.10, mplayer hangs on terminal, any help?
[13:22] <quizme> acdimalev: what do u mean by a lot of misunderstanding ?
[13:22] <acdimalev> quizme, of the two really popular eye-candy X desktops, ubuntu uses the other one
[13:22] <bazhang> quizme, yep its called compiz-fusion
[13:22] <bazhang> !ccsm | quizme
[13:22] <bonhoffer>  i just ran out of room on my ubuntu partition (11 GB out of 80 on my ubuntu eee) what options do i have (can i grow my partition -- how do i do a 'treesize' graphical du to see where all this space is?
[13:23] <acdimalev> quizme, I have heard success stories of getting the one you are thinking of to work, but my understanding is that it can be very glitchy
[13:23] <quizme> acdimalev oh... :~(
[13:23] <acdimalev> quizme, two things that most people get all confused about... first is that you don't need a 64-bit application to run under 64-bit linux... Intel's old 64-bit processors required 64-bit code, but that died out
[13:24] <bonhoffer> if i can resize my ubuntu partition -- how do i do it?\
[13:24] <istvan> hi sll
[13:24] <istvan> a
[13:25] <quizme> acdimalev: wahts the 2nd thing?
[13:25] <icqnumber> howto display a unicode character in gedit if the the number is given i.e. u+03B5?
[13:25] <acdimalev> quizme, the second thing is that 32-bit applications can only use 32-bit libraries... the debian family only packages a handful of those libraries, so if anything else is used, they really should be distributing those libraries with the application
[13:25] <Codenut> Can I assign a tty to a video card and display a bash shell to that screen to use irssi?
[13:25] <istvan> hardware questions are ok too?
[13:25] <nrb> is this an african os?
[13:26] <istvan> nrb not really, but the name comes from there because of it's meaning
[13:26] <acdimalev> icqnumber, ctrl+shift+u 03b5
[13:27] <istvan> does anyone know, if I have a PICe 1.0 card and PCIe16 slot would it work despite the extra room or not?
[13:27] <sgroi135> Anyone Here have any exp with Nepenthes?
[13:27] <quizme> acdimalev, for example, i heard that you have to jump through hoops just to get 64 bit mysql installed.
[13:27] <imachine> okay I think I fixed the thing with nm-applet on 8.10
[13:28] <imachine> I'll post on lanchpad
[13:28] <acdimalev> hmm… is it more "nifty" to connect via SSL or IPv6…
[13:28] <icqnumber> acdimalev, thank you
[13:29] <acdimalev> imachine, "the thing with nm-applet"
[13:29] <wsco> Hello , where i can find programs to work in ubuntu , i'm new to ubuntu
[13:29] <jrib> quizme: that's not true...
[13:29] <biotrox> wsco, applications
[13:30] <jrib> wsco: you should obtain all your programs from the repositories using Add/Remove Programs or System -> Administration -> Synaptic in your menus
[13:30] <jrib> !software > wsco
[13:30]  * istvan is waiting for some attention
[13:30] <acdimalev> quizme, I have mysql installed… I typed "apt-get install mysql" and it installed.
[13:30] <quizme> i'm just scared of 64bit
[13:30]  * jrib is waiting for istvan's question
[13:30] <quizme> acdimalev.... ok maybe it was an old post
[13:31] <heruhday> hi
[13:31] <imachine> acdimalev, the thing I mentioned a few minutes ago.
[13:31] <imachine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/273860 this thing
[13:31] <istvan> jrib: thanks, I'm wondering if I can use a PICe 1.0 card in PCIe 16 slot. it fit,s but there's loads of room left
[13:31] <jrib> quizme: the only real issue that I can think of for desktop users at this point is the lack of a java plugin from sun, but 64 bit users can just use the icedea plugin
[13:31] <jrib> istvan: ask ##hardware
[13:31] <acdimalev> quizme, usually reports like that come in when somebody is using something experimental (like… debian unstable), or when somebody has installed a bunch of software incorrectly.
[13:31] <istvan> thanks
[13:31] <imachine> now there is only nvidia issues and we should be well okay on the run :-)
[13:32] <quizme> acdimalev: i heard Ruby's memory footprint is much larger with 64 bit too.
[13:33] <acdimalev> imachine, that looks nasty
[13:33] <acdimalev> quizme, knowing Ruby… probably.
[13:33] <acdimalev> quizme, I would expect it to nearly double
[13:33] <Koordin> hi, i'm wondering what is the difference between 'cat file' and 'cat <file'
[13:33] <sidcley> bom dia
[13:34] <cha1n> does anyone know if a ubuntu live cd would be able to mount a software raid 0 oin xp pro?
[13:34] <sidcley> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[13:34] <jrib> !br | sidcley
[13:34] <jrib> Koordin: nothing
[13:35] <acdimalev> Koordin, 1. the 'cat' application actually opens the file 2. bash opens the file and pipes it into 'cat'
[13:35] <Koordin> "cat <file" is equivalent to "cat file | cat" ?
[13:35] <acdimalev> Koordin, unless you have cat installed with the setuid bit, which is not the default and would be very odd if you did, there is no effective difference.
[13:36] <jrib> Koordin: you get the same result but it isn't obtained in the same way
[13:36] <Koordin> acdimalev: yes but there is difference between "cat <file >file" and "cat file > file". i don't understand why the first command delete the content of file
[13:36] <acdimalev> Koordin, but, if for some reason you actually did have cat installed setuid, "cat file" would work for files that you don't have permission to where "cat < file" would not
[13:37] <Koordin> ok
[13:37] <Koordin> actually i was just wondering why does "cat <file > file" delete the content of file
[13:37] <acdimalev> never read from and write to a file in the same command
[13:37] <acdimalev> it is bad practice and very difficult to tell what order the read/write will occur in
[13:38] <acdimalev> and thanks to copy on write, it can sometimes be extremely confusing
[13:38] <acdimalev> use a temporary file instead
[13:38] <Koordin> acdimalev: i know, but this is just an exercise
[13:38] <cousteau> wel, cat <file will read the content of file, and if you write it to file (>file), then file will be deleted
[13:39] <leo> exit
[13:39] <Koordin> cousteau: because it has nothing to read anymore ?
[13:39] <cousteau> because the first time it writes to file it completely rewrites it
[13:40] <neil_d> I notice that 8.04 has the 2.6.24 kernel will this be upgraded to the 2.6.25 kernel any time soon ?
[13:40] <Koordin> cousteau: yes but why he doesn't write the content of file within it ?
[13:40] <Nith> can I trust ubuntu's use of an NTFS drive yet?
[13:40] <anasmar> Hola gente :D
[13:40] <Flannel> neil_d: No
[13:41] <array> is anyone aware of a utility to mount .vhd (virtual hard disk) in linux?
[13:41] <acdimalev> Koordin: I am surprised that you aren't losing the contents of the file on both commands.  far as I am aware, the moment you point a redirect at a file, the contents of the file are destroyed, and then the individual commands are executed
[13:41]  * cousteau thought that .vhd were VHDL files
[13:42]  * dapper-daniel is searching someone using USBIP
[13:42] <acdimalev> array, if you look around, there are some notes on how to use a very odd mount command to perform a loop mount to a file with a given offset
[13:42] <neil_d> Flannel: ahhh ok ..... just reading the docs for the highpoint RocketRAID that say they have a driver in the 2.6.25 kernel
[13:42] <Koordin> acdimalev: actually "cat file > file" is not allowed by my shell
[13:43] <array> neil_d: thanks, i ended up finding something - i can run VHDmount in CrossOver :)
[13:43] <acdimalev> array, if you find a clean way to mount the contents of a hdd iso, please let me know :)
[13:43] <acdimalev> Koordin: not allowed?
[13:43] <Flannel> neil_d: New Ubuntu versions are the times you get new kernel versions.  Jaunty will have a newer one, for instance.
[13:43] <korogiannos> Any improvements to Intrepid since release?  I'd like to convert my family PC from XP.  I know hardy works perfectly but am considering Intrepid.  Is it too early? have the "teething problems" been sorted?  Thanks for your input.
[13:44] <Koordin> acdimalev: "cat: toto: input file is output file" but i have not understand yet why the content of file is not rewritten when i do a "cat <file > file"
[13:44] <Djerkaf> So, I just realized, Ubuntu is the worst thing ever happening to me. But still, I want to test something else before going back to XP. I want a simple OS, that just works. And I want to be able to use some quick remote manegement program like xvnc4viewer. What should I try?
[13:44] <acdimalev> korogiannos, seems to be running fine for me.  so long as your family PC isn't a laptop, I'd recommend it.
[13:44] <Flannel> korogiannos: What are you looking to upgrade to Intrepid for?  There's nothing wrong with sticking to Hardy until 2010 (or until something comes out in Ubuntu you absolutely need)
[13:44] <cousteau> there's a way to cat <file >file without deleting it
[13:44] <korogiannos> acdimalev: Thanks.  anyone else?
[13:44] <acdimalev> korogiannos, even if it is a laptop, I'd recommend it, but I have had oddities with brining my computer out of hibernation at new locations with different wireless hotspots.  it just isn't smart about it.
[13:45] <cousteau> something like sh "cat <file" >file
[13:45] <korogiannos> Flannel: That's the main reason I'd stick.  "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[13:45] <cousteau> useful when you want to sed a file
[13:45] <neil_d> cousteau: would 'tee' help
[13:46] <Koordin> cousteau: i'm not trying to rewrite file, i'm just trying to understand the command "cat <file >file"
[13:46] <obst__> couch
[13:46] <acdimalev> cousteau, not trying to be rude, but if somebody tells you that one end of a hammer is for banding nails in and the other is for plying nails out… would you really ask if there is any way to do both with a single side of the hammer?
[13:46] <obst__> couch
[13:46] <chfwiggum> cat >> will append it
[13:46] <cousteau> it's easy: cat <file: write the content of file
[13:46] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: What sorts of problems has Ubuntu been giving you?
[13:46] <Koordin> cat <file writes the content of file in stdout
[13:47] <cousteau> >file: delete file and write the output of the previous command
[13:47] <Koordin> yes
[13:47] <Koordin> and the output of the previous command should be the content of file ?
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau I am not awake and just got here but here is a basic command I use example..  lsb_release -a > ~/Desktop/Ubuntu_Version_Info.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Ubuntu_Version_Info.txt
[13:47] <cousteau> so if you delete 'file' then when you 'cat <file' there's nothing to write
[13:47] <acdimalev> Koordin, where you aren't understanding this is that pipes and redirection get handled before anything is actually executed
[13:47] <Koordin> ok
[13:48] <Guest83237> hi guys
[13:48] <Guest10245> may i ask a question plz?
[13:48] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: Because I switched over a week ago from Win XP; and sure, it took me the better part of the week to get everything tweaked, but ealmost everything is working quite well now.
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau >> appends and does not overwrite what is there
[13:48] <sybux> anyone know how to print on a Dell inkJet 928 ? I'm connecting throw samba
[13:48] <Guest10245> i have problem with my wireless
[13:48] <acdimalev> so you are destroying the file for writing before the cammands you are trying to run actually read the file in
[13:48] <Koordin> so it opens and deletes file before doing "cat <file" ?
[13:48] <Guest10245> anyone? :(
[13:48] <chfwiggum> !ask
[13:48] <tiyowan> !ask | Guest10917
[13:48] <imachine> acdimalev, what does?
[13:48] <Nith> cousteau: i'm pretty sure that it does some things in parallel, so you're right that you cant cat < file.txt > file.txt
[13:48] <imachine> the graphcis or the nmapplet ?
[13:48] <imachine> I think it's fixed
[13:49] <Koordin> ok thanks everyone
[13:49] <cousteau> yes, but >> would append file to file, then append "filefile", then "filefilefilefile" ...
[13:49] <imachine> I'll take a look at it in a sec.
[13:49] <imachine> ]
[13:49] <imachine> ;]
[13:49] <FloodBot2> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Guest83237> when i tr to install fglrx drivers i have several options:fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?
[13:49] <UnknownUser56> Guest10245,What is it ?
[13:49] <acdimalev> imachine, this looks really nasty.  I don't think I've personally seen it, but it just does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/273860
[13:49] <acdimalev> imachine, I felt a need to comment on it
[13:49] <Guest10245> i have problem with my wireless
[13:49] <Guest83237> when i try to install fglrx drivers i have several options:dkms-fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?
[13:49] <Koordin> and why does "cat >file" wait input from stdin ?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest83237 Please hold down the repeats and wait for an answer
[13:50] <Nith> Koordin: because you haven't specified a file for cat to cat.. thus it uses standard out
[13:50] <Nith> *standard in
[13:50] <Koordin> Nith: ok
[13:50] <Guest83237> Jack_Sparrow, this was not a repeat, but i change something, you see?
[13:51] <acdimalev> a lot of bad manuals written by evil people suggest using cat as a cheap way to populate files without a text editor, via stdin
[13:51] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: do you know anything about dependability of ntfs on intrepid?
[13:51] <acdimalev> since then, nano and pico became commonplace on boot discs
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith I have not heard of any issues
[13:52] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: many thanks :)
[13:52] <Guest10245> anyone? :(
[13:52] <Djerkaf> tiyowan: I have given Ubuntu a chance a couple of times before too, but it never has worked properly. Every time there has been some error that no one could explain, some problem no one could solve. This time, I have Ubuntu on a laptop. I wanted to connect a TV. I was told to reboot. I did, and now my maximum resolution is 800x600, and I can't seem to fix it back...
[13:52] <acdimalev> Nith, writing files is still not recommended, but generally works.  do *not* open a file with an application directly on an NTFS partition
[13:52] <chfwiggum> Guest10245: r u kidding?
[13:52] <Guest10245> no
[13:53] <engie> Hi. After going to the Hardware Drivers panel my system is "Searching for available drivers" and a progress bar is bounding back and forth at 0%. An apt-get update works fine in the background. What is this trying to do and can I work around it?
[13:53] <catmando_> hey, could someone on itrepid have a look and tell me what the version of glx-new in the repo is?
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !info abs-guide
[13:53] <cousteau> echo `cat <file` >file
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> THe programming discussion should probably be moved to a more appropiate channel
[13:53] <cousteau> this writes the whole content of file before starting to write to file
[13:53] <acdimalev> catmando_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:54] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: Hmm...that's quite odd, really.
[13:54] <Guest83237> Hi guys, when i try to install fglrx drivers i have several options:dkms-fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?; anybody knows about this?
[13:54] <jrib> !info nvidia-glx-177 | catmando_
[13:54] <Nith> acdimalev: so I've i'm building a dual boot system, I should still keep my data partition with fat32 then?
[13:54] <Leefmc> Question: How can i disable Alt+Drag window movement?
[13:54] <jrib> !nvidia > catmando_
[13:55] <Nith> acdimalev: where data partition is a third that sits between the os's
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith I keep a fat32 around
[13:55] <jrib> Leefmc: system -> preferences -> window   will let you change alt to super or ctrl
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith It does not matter where it is, it will be fine, while you are creating partitions, add a seperate one for /home
[13:55] <acdimalev> Nith, I personally copy files between my NTFS and ext3 partitions.
[13:55] <Leefmc> jrib: Ah thank you. It was driving me nuts.. it wasn't listed under keyboard shortcuts.. heh
[13:55] <Djerkaf> Is there some quick way to reset Ubuntu, so everything is like after a fresh installation?
[13:55] <blip-> hi all, I need some help configuring remote access for mysql on ubuntu 7.04, I'm editing /etc/mysql/my.cnf ... an online guide says I should add the line "bind-address=YOUR-SERVER-IP"....  is the IP meant to be the IP of the machine that has mysql running on it ?  or the client machine that will access the mysql db remotely ?   thanks
[13:56] <sladen> Djerkaf: what told you to reboot?  Anyway, System->Preferences-Screen Resolution
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> acdimalev yes, but that requires the extfs driver in windows..
[13:56] <jrib> Djerkaf: if you just want to reset your user's configurations, create a new user
[13:56] <Leefmc> jrib: Ouch.. can i disable that somehow? I dont want ANY functionality like that heh.
[13:56] <quizme> it says "New restrictued drivers in use.  In order for this computer to function properly, Ubuntu is using driver software that cannot be supported by Ubuntu.  <--- what's does "cannot be supported by Ubuntu" mean ?
[13:56] <acdimalev> Jack_Sparrow, no, I mean that I do all my copying from Linux
[13:57] <jrib> Leefmc: not that I know of.  Check metacity keys in gconf-editor and look at metacity's source depending on how badly you want to do that
[13:57] <quizme> i just enabled my video card's driver to be enabled... one downloaded from ATI Radeon
[13:57] <Roberto2> hola
[13:57] <Leefmc> jrib: See modifier+drag is very useful in 3D (Rotating/Moving/Zooming/etc) and having the inability to use one of those is a huge limiting factor.
[13:57] <Djerkaf> sladen: I set my TV as second screen, and I was told to reboot
[13:57] <jrib> Leefmc: super is probably free though
[13:57] <Djerkaf> sladen: The screen resolution "window" doesn't do anything for me.
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> acdimalev How does that help in sharing files to our windows os?
[13:57] <Leefmc> jrib: Ugh.. i hate when there are design decisions to force "ideas" onto people.
[13:57] <Roberto2> alguien habla español??
[13:57] <jrib> !es | Roberto2
[13:58] <Leefmc> jrib: Well, it wouldn't be if i had the ability to use it, but gnome isn't letting me use it apparently. Feels like windows deciding whats best for me :o
[13:58] <acdimalev> trying to connect via IPv6… this should be interesting.
[13:58] <Ace2016> Anyone know how to install vista after linux and not destroy the bootloader?
[13:58] <sladen> Djerkaf: do you still have the TV plugged in?
[13:58] <jrib> Leefmc: I assume if you put something random into /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier you might get the desired effect
[13:58] <Djerkaf> sladen: No.
[13:58] <mooncup> DCC SEND "ffɦʞɔfɟ" 0 0 0
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace2016 ou cant... but easy enough to fix
[13:58] <Leefmc> jrib: I'll take a look, thanks
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: have you rebooted since unplugging the TV
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Yes.
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Have tried to change drivers, but no change.
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: have you clicked "detect displays"
[13:59] <Ace2016> i thought i read somewhere that vista didn't nuke the mbr when you install it
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Yes.
[13:59] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: I intend to mount this middle partition as my /home and in windows, as my "My Documents"... so if I'm reading and writing alot then fat32 sounds like the better choice, no?
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: oh right.  what have you tried to change it to?
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith you cant use fat32 for home
[14:00] <acdimalev> hah, nice.  /whois acdimalev
[14:00] <Djerkaf> sladen: I'm not at that computer now, but I set it to some Ati Radeon thingie, because I found out that is what's inside the computer.
[14:00] <hoonteke> how do I access teh pulseaudio control panel in intrepid?  in hardy, when I started pa, there was an icon in the systray but now I don't see much.
[14:01] <jrib> hoonteke: is paprefs what you want?
[14:01] <sladen> Djerkaf: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  which will ask it to run the driver autodetection again
[14:01] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: "sorry, as the "Documents" folder in my /home... I keep my /home for settings and temp files only
[14:01] <hoonteke> Ace2016: was this perhaps an MS blog?  I'll bet Vista plays nice with other MS products
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith ntfs for our windows, a fat32, two ext3 one for root and one for home plus a last couple gig for swap which probably wont get used much
[14:01] <Ace2016> oh
[14:01] <Djerkaf> sladen: I did try that...
[14:01] <Djerkaf> sladen: But, then my keyboard stopped working completely
[14:02] <hoonteke> jrib: perhaps, but ... I dont' see it on my system
[14:02] <hoonteke> is that an extra package I have to install?
[14:02] <Djerkaf> sladen: So I guess I have to reinstall. But then I want to try something different...
[14:02] <jrib> hoonteke: yes
[14:02] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I'll use a similar structure. Thanks :)
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:02] <acdimalev> and yet it has just occurred to me… if I am connected via IPv6, I'm not going to be able to direct-connect to anybody on IPv4, huh.
[14:02] <sladen> Djerkaf: try it without the '-phigh' and you will be given an option to confirm each step in the autodetction (such as selecting a different keyboard)
[14:02] <jrib> sladen: I'm not sure that's true anymore
[14:03] <sladen> jrib: what isn't true
[14:03] <hoonteke> jrib: ah, that's more of what I want, but I'm want the screen that lets me redirect already playing streams
[14:03] <Djerkaf> sladen: I forgot this part before I asked my question here. After rebooting the last time, - after the reconfiguring, the keyboard didn't work, and therefor I couldn't login :( I fucked it up.
[14:03] <jrib> hoonteke: don't know then.  Figure out what the command was on hardy
[14:04] <Djerkaf> sladen: But, is there some OS I should try, that is more user friendly than Ubuntu...?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sladen dpkg-reconfigure is different in intrepid than previous versions of ubuntu
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Djerkaf offtopic
[14:04] <jrib> sladen: that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will offer you those configuration options you are mentioning
[14:04] <sladen> Djerkaf: reboot, select "(single user mode)" from the boot list and enter the reconfiguration here
[14:04] <dex> #polska
[14:05] <Djerkaf> sladen: I'll try that. Thanks.
[14:05] <botanicus> Djerkaf, u can try OpenSUSE, but Ubuntu is pretty good I think. And of course OS X, it's pretty cool.
[14:05] <dex> join #polska
[14:05] <botanicus> Hey guys.
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > botanicus
[14:05] <not-op-bot> cat: /aber/jqh8/irssi/ascii/dcc.txt: No such file or directory
[14:05] <botanicus> I have problem with sound in 8.10
[14:06] <jrib> not-op-bot: huh?
[14:06] <sladen> jrib: perhaps you should try running that command yourself before making statements about what it does or doesn't do (hint, it won't break your system as it'll be reconfirming the settings you already have)
[14:06] <botanicus> Jack_Sparrow, he was asking, I just reply.
[14:06] <not-op-bot> oops jrib
[14:06] <not-op-bot> something broke
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> botanicus I told him he was offtopic when he asked which should have been a clue to not answer that line of questioning
[14:06] <botanicus> Permissions are OK, I guess some drivers are missing. Any ideas?
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sladen we have many times.. and I think we know it better than you do
[14:07] <botanicus> Jack_Sparrow, OK, sorry
[14:07] <cousteau> when will be a Jaunty LiveCD out?
[14:07] <nachohi88> people need help
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau 9.04
[14:07] <nachohi88> my uplashes doesn't load
[14:07] <jrib> sladen: ok, I just did.  Now you try.  See if it offers the option to select a video driver
[14:08] <nachohi88> tried everithing
[14:08] <hoonteke> jrib: padevchooser is what I was looking for.  But weird, I wonder why the pa team has decided to split up pa into so many packages and not install them per default?  huh
[14:08] <cousteau> i mean, not the final one, but an alpha or beta
[14:08] <nachohi88> not even with startup manager
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau /j #Ubuntu+1 for that
[14:09] <cousteau> ok
[14:09] <nachohi88> any idea?
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nachohi88 please tr patience and wait for an answer and ou need to form a better question with info about what you did other than I did everything..
[14:10] <jrib> hoonteke: probably because most people won't use that functionality I guess
[14:10] <Roberto2> i don't idea
[14:10] <DarkKnight> hey just have a look at this and tell me what do u think about this....
[14:11] <sladen> jrib: agreed, it does no longer present the video driver upgrade (it should however (hopefully) fix djerkaf's keyboard issue)
[14:11] <Roberto2> ok
[14:12] <ascii_> quick question people, trying to install ubuntu intrepid server onto my server, but my cd-rom is gone, so i was trying to do it from a usb, but it complains about my cd-rom, so i can't install it, any tips?
[14:13] <jrib> sladen: configuration for the keyboard no longer happens in xorg.conf and settings there will be ignored without the server flag.  I think 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' reconfigures that stuff though
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ how did you put it onto the usb
[14:13] <nachohi88> ok i use startup manager so to change the uplash but any of the new ones doen't work... just the original one
[14:13] <cousteau> download the cd image, mount it and install from it
[14:13] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, used unetbootin..
[14:13] <cousteau> the alternate cd iso
[14:13] <jrib> s/server flag/proper server flag
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[14:14] <cousteau> ..ok, forget about what I said, I was thinking on upgrading
[14:14] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, that was how i did it..
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[14:15] <ascii_> but when i boot and start installing, it's complaining about missing cd-rom(prob because it needs the files), but those are on the usb..
[14:15] <vac> Just a question: Is there a better power management for a Dell insp 1501 on Ubuntu Hardy ?
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ I had a script somewhere for iso2usb that worked on earlier versions..
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ Not sure if this will help bt... Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[14:17] <catmando_> i think i'm going mad
[14:17] <Lasiv> how does Ubuntu handle "non-free" packages?
[14:18] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, i'll give it a go, thanks :)
[14:18] <catmando_> why isn't sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop, followed by restarting x drop me to the command line?
[14:18] <Lasiv> i'm just wondering if it's going to stay sitting on my system if I refuse to pay during the install, etc
 I hope you'r joking :))
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasiv There will be no request to pay  ... cute
[14:19] <jrib> Lasiv: you're using the wrong definition of "free"
[14:19] <jrib> !free | Lasiv
[14:19] <Lasiv> vac: i'm just being cautious
[14:19] <Lasiv> I need "unrar" and I have a free and a non-free version