[08:43] <mistrynitesh> hello all.... just one doubt that I wanted to clear.... is kernel required only for *free* operating systems or *any* operating system?
[08:53] <mistrynitesh> the reason for asking this question is because the kubuntu-docs mention so in the about-kubuntu section on the linux page
[20:11] <ChrisWoollard> !ping godbyk
[20:11] <ubot2> Factoid 'ping godbyk' not found
[20:12] <ChrisWoollard> ping godbyk
[20:15] <godbyk> Hey, ChrisWoollard.
[20:15] <ChrisWoollard> Hello
[20:15] <ChrisWoollard> I was having a look at bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/568652
[20:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 568652 in ubuntu-manual "Mac OS X in lower case (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:17] <ChrisWoollard> I don't think Mac OS X should be in small caps. If you look at Apple's website, no reference to OS X is in small caps
[20:19] <ChrisWoollard> What do you think?
[20:20] <godbyk> On Apple's website, there's no reference to anything in small caps, afaik.
[20:20] <ChrisWoollard> Exactly. So i would sticck with there styling if at all possible.
[20:21] <godbyk> Well, we can't use their site as a data point on style if they're not using small caps at all.
[20:21] <godbyk> We should be consistent with our own style.
[20:23] <ChrisWoollard> Whatever the case. Somebody should make an executive desision to get the bug fixed / closed. It has been kicking around for ages.
[20:23] <godbyk> Agreed.  I'll take a look at it again this afternoon.
[20:23] <ChrisWoollard> Especially as the release is due on 29th
[20:24] <godbyk> Yeah, it's coming up fast.
[20:25] <godbyk> If you get some time, do you want to take a shot at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/605281?
[20:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605281 in ubuntu-manual "Too much italic text in the Rhythmbox section (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,New]
[20:26] <ChrisWoollard> I will try to fix some bugs. but I am away on holiday next week. So i will do what I can this week.
[20:26] <ChrisWoollard> Will do. I will look at that.
[20:27] <godbyk> Thanks.
[20:28] <ChrisWoollard> I think I can sort that.
[20:28] <godbyk> Awesome, thanks!


[14:55] <Pici> updated !info to handle groovy
[14:59] <genii> Does Groovy have an animal yet?
[14:59] <dax> gorilla
[15:00] <genii> heh


[06:04] <xubuntu79i> Hi, there.
[06:05] <xubuntu79i> Is anybody here?
[06:05] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:05] <xubuntu79i> I'm installing Xubuntu on a MacBook Air 11" 2010 : )
[06:06] <xubuntu79i> But having some troubles with GRUB installation.
[06:07] <xubuntu79i> Would you please help me?
[06:10] <Unit193> Last I knew there were differences between installing on Mac and a normal computer, if that's true then I have no idea about Macs.
[06:10] <xubuntu79i> "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda" is what it says.
[06:11] <xubuntu79i> Yup. I've to install rEFIt first in order to boot the USB.
[06:13] <xubuntu79i> Well, I'll try something else. See you.
[06:14] <Unit193> You may wish to seek help in #ubuntu
[06:24] <Gobelijn> Is there anyone that by any chance succeeded in permanently changing his DNS?
[06:25] <Andrio> I may have managed that, yeah
[06:25] <Unit193> Gobelijn: Are you editing /etc/resolv.conf or actually changing it via network-manager?
[06:26] <Gobelijn> When I change it in Network, it resets after a reboot
[06:29] <diogenes_> Gobelijn, maybe with something like dnsmasq
[06:31] <Unit193> I used nm to change it, via Connection Editor, etc.  It holds after reboot.
[06:32] <Gobelijn> what does nm stand for?
[06:32] <Gobelijn> Unit193:
[06:32] <Unit193> NetworkManager
[06:33] <Unit193> nm-applet is the try frontend, there's also nmcli and other tools.
[06:35] <Gobelijn> network manager is not 'installed' by default is it?
[06:39] <Unit193> It is.
[06:41] <Gobelijn> what method do you use? Automatic (dhcp) addresses only?
[06:41] <Gobelijn> Unit193:
[06:41] <Gobelijn> cause one website says this, another website says something else
[06:42] <Unit193> For the specific one I have in mind, pretty much yeah.
[06:44] <Gobelijn> And what about IPv6?
[06:44] <Unit193> I leave that alone, I don't have it on the host in question.
[06:46] <Gobelijn> K, let's see what it does, thanks
[06:48] <Gobelijn> Meh
[06:51] <Unit193> I also don't use systemd-resolved.
[07:39] <Gobelijn> Unit193, answer 1 did the trick. Had to make this /resolv.conf.d/base file and then install resolvconf. Now my DNS finally remains unaltered after rebooting. https://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-include-lines-in-resolv-conf-that-wont-get-lost-on-reboot
[07:43] <Unit193> resolvconf uses dnsmasq to cache requests, that specific file is used to add options before the automatic configuration so when you put your nameserver there you aren't actually using resolvconf to cache requests.
[07:51] <Gobelijn> I had to install it to use this command though: sudo resolvconf -u
[07:52] <Gobelijn> To be honest I have no idea what it means what you said, all I know is that it works for now
[07:52] <Unit193> Sure, just figured I'd mention it.  Also you may want to check your config files in /etc/NetworkManager/ and see if anything is overriding /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-dns-resolved.conf
[07:52] <Unit193> Right, so I guess we can say "good enough"
[07:52] <Gobelijn> Yeah, but it is a good thing to know more about it though
[13:21] <xubuntu48w> Hi
[13:21] <xubuntu48w> Are you boycott iran?
[13:23] <xubuntu48w> Are you online!
[13:49] <Gobelijn> Is it safe to uninstall gnome-keyring?
[13:50] <Gobelijn> My VPN probably doesn't autoconnect because it always asks for a keyring
[13:50] <diogenes_> Gobelijn, i'd rather not, you can configure the keyring to not nag you for password.
[13:54] <Gobelijn> Configuring that doesn't seem to be straightforward
[14:15] <knome> diogenes_, i just always uninstall it :P
[14:31] <Gobelijn> goddamn I thought I had the fix, by clicking on the icon next to the password entry in Network Manager
[14:31] <Gobelijn> ON which you can choose to store password for only this user, all users, not ask password, or ask for password every time
[14:32] <Gobelijn> but still it doesn't automatically connect to the VPN
[14:32] <Gobelijn> How such trivial things can be so difficult is beyond me
[14:42] <irwand22> hi
[14:43] <irwand22> can someone help me about my new xubuntu on my laptop.. heheh
[14:49] <irwand22_> on
[14:50] <GridCube> !ask | irwand22_
[15:43] <ojeda_peru> saludos del peru
[15:43] <ojeda_peru> como hago para conectarme con alguien
[19:55] <caldarella> Hi guys, I use stubby for DNS-over-TLS but when I access to a router page http://routerexample.com the access is denied! but when I disable stubby the access is allow! Why???
[20:09] <pavlushka> caldarella: better ask in ##networking channel
[21:11] <SeTunTun> Hi. Everytime i boot in xubuntu 18.04 it boots perfectly but i  get a message telling me about an error.
[21:12] <SeTunTun> I can clic on inform about the error or cancel but there is no iformation about what kind of error it is.
[21:12] <SeTunTun> is there any way to know it? by the way, it appears on the desktop after logging in.
[21:25] <Spass> hello SeTunTun, do you see any useful info in /var/crash/ directory? or maybe apport puts some dump files somewhere else
[21:25] <Spass> last time I had a similar issue the culprit was light-locker on my laptop with nvidia drivers
[21:28] <Spass> I can see that apport logs its activity in /var/log/apport.log and /var/log/apport.log.1
[21:37] <SeTunTun> Spass, hello, let me see
[21:40] <SeTunTun> yes, there are some errors related with lightdm and other things
[21:43] <SeTunTun> https://pastebin.com/Y32GsPsa
[21:46] <Spass> well, that's a trace for sure, maybe /var/crash/_usr_sbin_lightdm.0.crash file will tell you more? do you have nvidia graphics card?
[21:52] <Spass> what you can try (it may help in some cases from what I know) is removing all files from /var/crash as root :)
[21:53] <Spass> then if it was a "one time bug" that window should not bother you anymore
[21:53] <SeTunTun> i have a basic intel graphics card. I'll try to remove them
[21:54] <SeTunTun> there is nothing in var/crash
[21:55] <Spass> my problem was solved by removing light-locker and installing xscreensaver instead, but that may not be solution you're looking for
[21:55] <Spass> can you lock your screen using Alt+F2 and running "xflock4" without a problem?
[21:56] <Spass> if it doesn't lock properly, maybe you have the same issue like me
[21:57] <SeTunTun> i can lock and unlock correctly
[21:58] <Spass> so the problem is elsewhere, you need to investigate further or wait for someone else to give you another answer
[21:59] <Spass> another "extreme" solution is disabling apport completely
[21:59] <SeTunTun> mmm a bit radical ;)
[22:00] <SeTunTun> don't worry, i'll investigate. thanks a lot Spass
[22:00] <Spass> no problem, good luck and if you find something useful let us know
[22:02] <SeTunTun> of course
[22:32] <rebab> I've just installed Xubuntu. My boot screen doesn't show up. It has a glitch.
[22:35] <rebab> How do I fix it?


[09:40] <czajkowski> maco: what pleia2 said, but the fact that thye were notified back in october and only noticed this week doesnt say a lot
[09:40] <czajkowski> :/
[13:49] <scott-work> good morning everyone :)
[13:49] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha scott-work
[13:49] <scott-work> how are you today, MrChrisDruif ?
[13:50] <MrChrisDruif> Yawning already...
[13:50] <MrChrisDruif> And I've got to work till midnight, which is about 9 hours from now
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> You?
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> I have to be at work in about an hour
[13:52] <scott-work> i'm at work myself, got here at 6:30 am, but i'm feeling good
[13:52] <scott-work> it's been very, very busy for a couple of months, especially during the last two weeks with people out on holiday/vacation
[13:52] <scott-work> but i feel like we are pushing through it right now, it's been a very production couple of weeks (maybe because people are out and leaving me alone ;) )
[13:52] <scott-work> i wish i could say i've been as productive on ubuntu studio though :(
[13:55] <MrChrisDruif> Haha, yeah..can't have it all ^_^
[15:23] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Your busy this morning :)
[15:27] <czajkowski> yes
[15:28] <czajkowski> 35 tickets just been replied to
[15:29] <bkerensa> :)
[15:45] <maco> czajkowski: dont think kevin's ever had a bug assigned to him before, just reports them (if that?)
[15:45] <maco> there certainly wasnt a mail to the list when the bug report happened, which i think is what would happen if it was assigned to the entire team
[15:47] <AlanBell> they only get assigned to the team contact and are private bugs (not entirely sure why that is tbh)
[15:49] <czajkowski> AlanBell: we explained that in lots of places in the past, to  stop the bug being spammed, we had to due to teams being added and then we get we're awesome
[15:49] <czajkowski> which kinda defeats the point of the bug we just want to be able to deal with some teams who cannot attend the meeting swiftly and easily
[15:50] <AlanBell> ok, I knew there would be a reason :)
[15:50] <czajkowski> we've even blogged it and written emails on it
[15:51] <czajkowski> teams can also see when they are due by looking on http://loco.ubuntu.com/loco-council/approved
[15:54] <maco> i know i didnt bother checking to see if we were on teh list since i thought it was 2 years apart
[15:54] <maco> and i thought we did it last year
[15:54] <maco> but then i still sometimes think hardy was last year so
[15:54] <maco> also probably because i dont really care anymore
[15:58] <maco> looking at the old reapproval wiki page for the team, it was 2010 last time we wrote an application so im a bit confused how dec 2011 is two years after january 2010 but oh well
[16:08] <bkerensa> =o
[16:08] <Pendulum> maco: so that the reapproval can happen before it's actually expired?
[16:09] <maco> Pendulum: but if the application was filled out in early 2010, then the actual meeting for reapproval wouldve been a bit later than that right, so why would our expiration be dec 31 2011, only a year and halfish after?
[16:10] <maco> april 2010 was our reapproval meeting
[16:10]  * Pendulum shrugs
[16:10] <Pendulum> it may also be done more by cycle than month
[16:10] <czajkowski> shall loook into it
[16:11] <czajkowski> again the team contact should have noticed this at least in october....
[16:11] <czajkowski> anyways
[16:12] <maco> (i actually dont really give a crap whether the team gets reapproved. as i said yesterday, its just free shit)
[16:12] <czajkowski> maco: ok
[16:13] <pangolin> maco: everything ok?
[16:13] <maco> sure
[16:14] <maco> ive just thought the whole approval thing was weird since it started
[16:14] <pangolin> I agree.
[16:15] <maco> this loco's older than the approval thing. afaik, it was one of the first
[16:16] <maco> but i would be unsurprised if it didnt get reapproved. as ubuntu gets worse, it gets deader
[16:18] <pangolin> I don't think it is getting deader, I think that the new users are not as interested in improving ubuntu, the community, and just want stuff to work magically.
[16:18] <pangolin> the old guard is not being supplemented/replaced.
[16:19] <pangolin> making many of us reach a point of "I don't give a crap"
[16:20] <Pendulum> pangolin: I think maco was talking about the loco specifically
[16:20] <Pendulum> althought I went to one of their meetups in May so they can't be completely dead
[16:20] <pangolin> right. but that boils over to the general community
[16:20] <pangolin> or maybe it boils over from the general to the loco
[16:21] <pangolin> not sure to be honest and not so interested anymore in figuring out why :(
[16:25] <maco> Pendulum: meetups tend to happen when someone needs key sigs to become a DD or DM
[16:25] <maco> between you being in town and some Debian cross-collaboration, a meetup was needed
[16:26] <maco> but if nothing needs to happen, it doesnt
[16:26] <maco> pangolin: i just want stuff to work now. i like my boyfriend's macbook pro.
[16:27] <maco> he can use netflix
[16:29] <pangolin> I hear you. I almost installed Windows the other night to get my camera to work.
[16:29] <pangolin> decided not to because I    don't want to do 12 hours of   updates.
[16:29] <pangolin> also my  space bar is acting crazy heh
[16:30] <Pendulum> I have seen enough linux geeks move to macos on the desktop in the last 4+ years that I'm starting to think someone should do a study on it...
[16:31] <maco> macbooks have really awesome power cords
[16:32] <maco> my boyfriend's laptop wouldve been on the ground SO many times if not for that cord
[20:01] <scott-work> hi czajkowski maco
[20:30] <jussi> nice that people in here were so super positive today </sarcasm>
[20:31]  * pleia2 hugs jussi
[20:32] <jussi> thanks, needed that
[20:32] <pleia2> :)


[14:02] <mpt> Hi, is there any way within a help file I can tell whether the environment is Gnome or UNR?
[14:02] <mpt> well, gnome-panel or UNR, more precisely
[15:20] <mpt> Anyone awake in this channel? :-)
[15:20] <mpt> I'd like some help with cross-reference links if possible
[15:35] <alourie> mpt: awake, yes :-)
[15:35] <mpt> Specifically, how do I link from an application's standalone help file to the Gnome "Customizing the Panel Menubar" help page?
[15:39] <alourie> I'd guess it would need to be a link to yelp
[15:40] <shaunm> mpt: in general, to link to another document, use ghelp: URIs
[15:40] <shaunm> but conditional stuff, like determining what desktop you're running under, not possible
[15:41] <mpt> shaunm, I have no idea what the ghelp: URI for that page is, or how I'd find it out, or which DocBook linking element I'd use.
[15:41] <mpt> Is it <xlink>?
[15:41] <shaunm> ulink
[15:42] <mpt> oh, no such thing as xlink, I was thinking of xref
[15:42] <shaunm> ghelp:user-guide?some-id
[15:42] <mpt> ok, ulink, thanks
[15:42] <shaunm> to link to a page in the user guide.  you'll have to look at the user-guide xml to find an id to use
[15:45] <mpt> ok, found the file, goseditmainmenu.xml
[15:46] <mpt> <section id="menu-editor">
[15:47] <mpt> So, <ulink url="ghelp:menu-editor">repeat the title of the page</ulink>
[15:49] <mpt> aha, <ulink url="ghelp:user-guide?menu-editor">Customizing the menu bar</ulink>
[15:49] <mpt> thanks muchly shaunm


[09:28] <sacarde> hi
[09:28] <sacarde> do you suggest me the best way to add "bochs-drm" module in ubuntu kernel?
[09:29] <sacarde> without download entire source kernel
[09:29] <sacarde> dkms?
[09:53] <sacarde> I try dkms, like this, but I have error: http://sacarde.altervista.org/np/bochs
[15:35] <sacarde> do you suggest me the best way to add "bochs-drm" module in ubuntu kernel?
[15:35] <sacarde> without download entire source kernel
[15:35] <sacarde> dkms?
[15:35] <sacarde> I try dkms, like this, but I have error: http://sacarde.altervista.org/np/bochs
[16:25] <apw> sacarde, not sure i know what is wrong there, it seems like there are no modules in the source
[16:40] <sacarde> apw in /usr/src/bochs-drm-4.8.0 ?
[16:43] <apw> sacarde, i guess so indeed
[16:45] <sacarde> maybe Makefile for kernel build is not the same of dkms build ?
[16:48] <sacarde> apw, can I use "verbose" in dkms build?
[16:53] <apw> make KERNELRELEASE=4.8.0-26-generic -C /lib/modules/4.8.0-26-generic/build M=/var/lib/dkms/bochs-drm/4.8.0/build
[16:54] <apw> you could try adding V=1 to that line perhaps and run it yourself in the source tree
[16:54] <sacarde> ah
[16:54] <sacarde> ok
[19:33] <sacarde> apw, I try and I have yhis error: http://sacarde.altervista.org/np/err1


[00:37] <rubenilton_barbo> t
[05:39] <BTJustice> Is there a way to make Kubuntu turn off the screen after 1 minute when the computer locks after the set amount of time?  I found '/bin/sleep 1 ; /usr/bin/xset dpms force off' but it kicks the escreen off then it comes back on :(
[05:39] <BTJustice> I am not wanting the computer to sleep.  Just kick the screen off once the countdown to lock happens.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[20:48] <BTJustice> Is there a way to make Kubuntu turn off the screen after 1 minute when the computer locks after the set amount of time?  I found '/bin/sleep 60 ; /usr/bin/xset dpms force off' but it kicks the screen off then it comes back on :(
[20:48] <BTJustice> I am not wanting the computer to sleep.  Just kick the screen off once the countdown to lock happens.
[21:37] <Mekaneck> BTJustice: since no one answers here it's time to seek support for your question elsewhere like askubuntu.com
[21:40] <BTJustice> Mekaneck: I did sign up for the Kubuntu forum in the topic, but have yet to receive the email to activate.
[21:40] <Mekaneck> check your spam folder
[22:54] <BTJustice> Mekaneck: Not there.  Never got it. BRB.


[17:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> Haha I'm suddenly plural 😂
[19:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL495c80feb73f: Update libreoffice version numbers] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL495c80feb73f
 Hi there. Is this the right group to ask with installation help?
[19:21] <kc2bez> Nope, you are looking for the support channel.
[19:21] <kc2bez> !support
 👍
 Thanks
[19:22] <kc2bez> No problem. We have a discourse forum too that has a support category. https://discourse.lubuntu.me
[19:25] <kc2bez> wxl: I wonder if we shouldn't add that to the factoid somehow? ^
[21:03] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:04] <kc2bez> o/
[21:04] <lynorian> o/
 o/
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Yo
[21:04] <guiverc> o/
[21:04] <KGIII> Yup.
[21:05] <kc2bez> ack kc2bez, lynorian, @Leokolb, tsimonq2, guverc and KGIII
[21:06] <kc2bez> I'll go first.
[21:06] <kc2bez> Not too much, this week.
[21:06] <kc2bez> Announced the artwork contest on all the platforms
[21:07] <kc2bez> Need to announce the globalization team work still.
[21:07] <kc2bez> That is pretty much it from me.
[21:08] <kc2bez> lynorian: I turn it over to you.
[21:08] <lynorian> I found some errors in capitlization and style in the manual
[21:09] <lynorian> I also added how to change compression in newly created archieves in ark
[21:09] <kc2bez> oh nice
[21:09] <lynorian> and how to save an image locally in firefox added as a feature
[21:10] <lynorian> that is it for me
 testing with more emphasis on networking/printing/scanning/bluetooth etc.
[21:10] <kc2bez> Excellent, thanks for that lyn!
 Played a bit w/RASP Pi4 - install lubuntu-desktop over Ubuntu (21.04)
 So far it looks good -
 Also a few unofficial Thunderbird tests (21.04) - no problems -
 Xmas eve has arrived here -- seasons greetings to all.
 Done!
[21:12] <tsimonq2> I just gave some backend advice on the accounting this week. Merry Christmas to all :D
[21:12] <kc2bez> Thanks @Leokolb ! seasons greetings to you as well!
[21:12] <kc2bez> Thanks tsimonq2 Always great to have you here.
[21:13] <kc2bez> guiverc: Over to you.
[21:13] <guiverc> - usual support  (felt a quieter week)
[21:13] <guiverc> - started looking through t180 (wiki clean up), names of lubuntu people are all I've seen thus far, maybe we could have a list of lubuntu members on wiki? (historical reasons)
[21:13] <guiverc> - started opening some autoclosed discourse threads
[21:13] <guiverc> Merry Christmas to all (Chrissy day here)  [done]
[21:13] <kc2bez> Thanks as always guiverc!
[21:14] <kc2bez> KGIII: your turn.
[21:14] <KGIII> Testing is going fine. With the help of @guiverc, I've learned about manifests and can diff 'em just fine. That helps a great deal, as it tells me what to look for. I do have one thing, but I think it's better posted in the forum in the development channel as it's not pressing and purely a UX type of thing - and it goes well with a couple of other things. So, I'll just post it there.
[21:14] <KGIII> That's it, really. I'll type up the post for the dev section of the forum in the next day or two. I should have some free time.
[21:15] <KGIII> And, a Merry and Happy one to all of you.
[21:15] <kc2bez> Thanks KGIII
[21:15] <kc2bez> Anyone else? Anything else?
[21:16] <guiverc> Thanks as always kc2bez/Dan
[21:16] <tsimonq2> @teward001
[21:16] <tsimonq2> teward
[21:16] <tsimonq2> teward
[21:16] <tsimonq2> teward
[21:16] <tsimonq2> teward
[21:16] <tsimonq2> WAKE UP
[21:16] <KGIII> Indeed, thanks to all of you really. I've learned a ton already.
 Tks all..
[21:17] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone for meeting!
[21:17] <teward> i'm on a call with my boss simon calm down
[21:18] <kc2bez> Merry Christmas to you all!
[21:18] <teward> telegram bridge now is matterbridge.  phab broke and is repaired.
[21:19] <teward> have a merry christmas and happy holidays to you all
[21:19] <kc2bez> Many thanks for that teward Your prompt attention is appreciated.
 This week nothing to tell, the meeting has caught me, with the family dinner !!!  xD
[21:20] <kc2bez> Enjoy the family @N0um3n0
 Sorry, merry christmas!!!!
 Thanks!!!! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> Enjoy the family @N0um3n0)
[21:21] <KGIII> Is 'tsimonq2' the same Simon I see at the blog and in the mailing lists as "Simon"?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Indeed.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> I'm "that guy," heh.
[21:21] <kc2bez> XD
[21:21] <KGIII> Ah. I've been quietly paying attention to all of you for years! Kinda creepy, huh? LOL
[21:22] <KGIII> I seldom post in the mailing lists, but I've been subscribed for years.
[21:22] <tsimonq2> It's nothing new. I'm always very gracious when people learn who I am at LinuxFests and such. I've had everything from "omg you're the Lubuntu guy?? no way!!" to "I've heard of YOU before"
[21:22] <tsimonq2> It's surreal
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Anyway, I'm nobody special. I'm a guy with regular guy problems.
[21:23] <KGIII> Well, at least you're used to it. So much of the public stuff is stamped "Simon". I now know who that Simon is. Mystery solved!
[21:24] <tsimonq2> The door is always open if you need some help, given the standard ground rules.
[21:25] <KGIII> LOL Thanks. I usually ask @guiverc. He's really helpful. He goes out of his way to be extra informative and I appreciate that. I often realize several days later that I actually did need the information he shared.
[21:26] <tsimonq2> I feel like I've known Chris for forever, great guy. :)
[21:27] <KGIII> I'll vouch for that.
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Now that teward guy on the other hand...
[21:27]  * tsimonq2 slaps teward with a wet fish
[21:28] <teward> well Simon needs to be around more because hes been absent for eternity and slacking off
[21:28] <teward> soooooo
[21:28]  * teward yeets Simon into the Marianas Trench
[21:28] <kc2bez> Nah, everyone here is great. This is a great team. <3
[21:28] <tsimonq2> ^^
[21:32] <KGIII> The people involved are one of the things that make Lubuntu great.
[21:33] <KGIII> I recently had to make such a decision. Do I like LXDE so much, or do I like Lubuntu? The answer turns out that I'll be switching to 20.04 LTS (LXQt) in the 2nd week of January.
 I think the same!
[22:27] <wxl> oh hey i'm here finally XD
[22:27] <KGIII> o/
[22:27] <kc2bez> Welcome :D
[22:28] <wxl> what did i miss?
[22:28] <kc2bez> Not too much, good turnout really.
[22:29] <kc2bez> I did wonder if we shouldn't add discourse to the support factoid though?
[22:29] <wxl> might not be terrible, although i will point out that it's in every topic
[22:30] <kc2bez> Well, links to support are plastered all over too but sometimes people still end up here.
[22:30] <wxl> true enough
[22:30] <wxl> just add to the main one?
[22:30] <kc2bez> I think so.
[22:30] <wxl> ok i'll tweak that for all the en channels
[22:30] <kc2bez> Sounds good. Danke
[22:32] <wxl> ok they're set for devel and ot
[22:32] <wxl> they need a minute to sync tho
[22:32] <KGIII> Gotta do family stuff, but gonna say happy holidays to wxl 'cause he missed it earlier.
[22:33] <wxl> same to you KGIII! sorry i was running around dealing with holiday stuff
[22:33] <wxl> also i didn't think we were doing a meeting but hey
[22:33] <KGIII> We had a better turnout than I expected. G'night.
[22:34] <kc2bez> Just trying to keep the oar in the water so to speak.
[22:34] <wxl> night night
[22:34] <kc2bez> Take care KGIII
[22:34] <wxl> it also helps to move the oar, too, but XD
[22:34] <kc2bez> I agree, baby steps though XD
[23:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: GID/UID mismatch for users.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181
[23:41] <wxl> FYI https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/694662