[08:51] <wasabi__> okay. does it have a super search like newleecher?
[08:51] <wasabi__> news*
[08:51] <coopster> wasabi_: nope
[08:52] <wasabi__> lol looks like they've been busy updating pan huh...
[08:52] <wasabi__> hah
[08:53] <wasabi__> so if i am searching for a certain file. then is there a good web-based usenet search engine i can use?
[08:54] <wasabi__> i'm trying to find hdtv rips of frontline
[08:54] <wasabi__> if anyone watches that show... i highly doubt it since it's on pbs
[08:54] <wasabi__> hah
[08:56] <wasabi__> eh i'll just try newsleecher on wine
[09:03] <kane77> hi
[09:03] <curs0r> !pastebin
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[09:03] <kane77> what machines is k8 kernel for?
[09:04] <lupine_85> kane77: amd64
[09:04] <lupine_85> e.g. athlon64, sempron64
[09:04] <bullotto> appena entrsato nel mondo linux
[09:04] <Gunny> Hey, has anyone seen this, or have any idea what might be causing this
[09:04] <Gunny> Randomly on boot I'll see this, and the system will automatically restart
[09:04] <kane77> lupine_85, so should I install it? (is it worth it?)
[09:04] <Gunny> WARNING: lib/modules/ kernel/driver/block/cpqarray.ko is not an elf object
[09:04] <Gunny> WARNING: lib/modules/ kernel/driver/block/cciss.ko is not an elf object
[09:04] <Gunny> Segmentation fault
[09:04] <Gunny> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[09:04] <curs0r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38068/ <this is what i get when beryl loads
[09:04] <lupine_85> tbh you might as well stick with generic
[09:04] <Gunny> However, othertimes it boots normally
[09:04] <Gunny> Any ideas?
[09:04] <Gunny> Running Ubuntu Edgy Server
[09:05] <gvikaskc> hello all i m a lawyer! and we work on legal worksheet/page. when ever i open OpenOffice2.0 i have to set Page properties to US legal from A4. is there any way to make it permanent
[09:06] <maitivolksfi> !!!!!!!!!
[09:06] <maitivolksfi> My "WiFi is on" indicator light just came on!
[09:06] <kane77> are there any tests out there that would prove or fail 64bit linux actualy being faster than the 32??
[09:07] <Gunny> Yes
[09:07] <jamesbrose> Get to pc's
[09:07] <Gunny> It's approx 15% faster
[09:07] <kgs> I plan on installing Ubuntu, but I don't want to reformat my entire disk. Does the live disk or installation disk offer a way to resize a Windows NTFS partition(s) safely to allocate the space I need for Ubuntu?
[09:08] <maitivolksfi> ....but my router is not here at the moment, so I can't test it.
[09:08] <kgs> I want to keep Windows, because there are some games I can't let go of.
[09:08] <lupine_85> kgs: resizing ntfs is possible
[09:09] <lupine_85> HOWEVER, IME it's not particularly
[09:09] <lupine_85> ...safe
[09:09] <gvikaskc> can any one help me on openoffice
[09:09] <maitivolksfi> but ifconfig lists wlan1 as a real device with a mac address and everything, I think its going to work.  Thanks for the help those of you who are still awake...
[09:09] <lupine_85> so if you want the live cd to do it for you, please - please - make a backup
[09:09] <kgs> Oh no..
[09:09] <lupine_85> !contest |kane77
[09:09] <ubotu> contest: The linux kernel responsiveness benchmark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:10] <maitivolksfi> kgs: I have had lots of luck with partition magic doing that if you have access to that piece of software
[09:10] <kgs> partition magic?
[09:10] <kgs> That's a Windows XP app?
[09:10] <maitivolksfi> yeah
[09:10] <kgs> Hmm..
[09:10] <kgs> And it would be safer?
[09:10] <lupine_85> kgs: much
[09:10] <nicois> it's much better than parted, last time i tried it
[09:10] <kgs> Alright..
[09:10] <maitivolksfi> I can't guarantee it, but I have resized ntfs partitions successfully with it
[09:11] <kgs> I'll look into it.
[09:11] <lupine_85> I've never heard of partition magic breaking an ntfs partition. ntfsresize, however, I /know/ has broken at least 2
[09:11] <kgs> I suppose.
[09:11] <nicois> ghost 2003 is also handy, if you don't mind commercial apps (I missed the start of the convo, so not 100% sure what the situation is)
[09:11] <maitivolksfi> its *usually* not free I believe
[09:12] <Toma-> What would be the best server to use for a single connection to it, hosting 1 webpage that has java and flash content?
[09:12] <kane77> kgs,  I used partition manager, as partition magic couldnt figure out my partitioning...
[09:12] <nicois> can anyone help me with an lvm problem I have in edgy? i've deleted a physical volume in a volume group, and now it won't let me access any logical volumes, even though none of the missing PV was allocated to LVs
[09:13] <kgs> kane77, that's by Paragon, right?
[09:13] <kane77> kgs, yes
[09:13] <kgs> Ah yes..
[09:13] <kgs> I believe I have that somewhere around here..
[09:13] <kgs> Too bad it's in German.
[09:13] <maitivolksfi> gvikaskc, what did you want to know about openoffice?
[09:13] <kgs> *cough*
[09:13] <lupine_85> toma: lighthttpd ?
[09:14] <lupine_85> there's also tomcat
[09:14] <Toma-> lupine_85: i was looking at thttpd
[09:14] <un_operateur> tomcat is far from light :)
[09:14] <lupine_85> that  too
[09:14] <lupine_85> heh, why not netcat? :p
[09:14] <kgs> Toma-: thttpd is very good.
[09:15] <lupine_85>  /that/ is light :p
[09:15] <kgs> I have used it before, it is my favorite.
[09:15] <Toma-> kgs: well its settled then! i think ill go with it. thanks
[09:15] <kgs> But then again, I used to run a very simple website from my only computer.
[09:15] <lupine_85> but flash content would be something of a no-no, I guess
[09:15] <Toma-> kgs: thats all i want to do
[09:15] <lupine_85> it's great :)
[09:15] <Toma-> setting up a flashmp3 player and java vnc viewer so i can access my music and pc from my Wii once the internet channel goes up! :D
[09:16] <kgs> Toma-: You'll like it, it's very easy to configure. As long as you read the docs that is.
[09:16] <Toma-> kgs: ahh great. i can RTFM :P
[09:16] <kgs> Heh
[09:17] <gvikaskc> l
[09:18] <Toma-> kgs: urlpat can specify full adresses?
[09:18] <Toma-> like, not just extensions
[09:18] <gvikaskc> maitivolksfi: i want to set openoffice page properties to legal . permanently
[09:19] <touchme> Can someone tell me how to correct this error
[09:19] <touchme> FATAL: Error inserting touch (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/touch.ko): Invalid module format
[09:20] <ChevronX> I aquired a cpkg package, how do I install it
[09:21] <eNaq> hey guys..... ive having problems running applications.
[09:21] <kgs> Toma-: Not sure man. It was a while back when I fooled around with it. I beleive they have a very good website with tons of info, and a channel on freenode aswell.. But again, I've been out of the *nix loop for quite some time.
[09:21] <eNaq> i downloaded marble blast gold.... and i cant run it
[09:21] <Toma-> ahh k. thanks!
[09:21] <eNaq> even if i change the permissions.
[09:21] <jbutler> i still cant get over how much faster this machine is than with windows.
[09:22] <eNaq> yeah..
[09:22] <kgs> Oww my head. I need a cig. :-(
[09:22] <jbutler> how in the world can people afford to build something like this for free?
[09:22] <eNaq> uh... time
[09:22] <eNaq> hey... its free for the developers too... so why not share it?
[09:22] <kgs> jbutler: You mean excellent free OS's?
[09:22] <maitivolksfi> jbutler, I love it too.  My old 266mhz laptop is useless unless I put linux on it, then I can watch videos and do all sorts of things.
[09:22] <eNaq> hm... i still cant figure it out
[09:22] <eNaq> i need some help here.
[09:23] <kgs> You see.. certain people take joy out of building things.
[09:23] <eNaq> where should i start with linux?
[09:23] <jbutler> of course, but to be able to build something like this from the ground-up...
[09:23] <kgs> And other certain people take even more joy out of spreading that joy... for free.
[09:23] <emun> what can I use to do a backup, and there any software that will clone my disk. I want to move it to another disk.
[09:23] <touchme> Anyone?
[09:23] <eNaq> anybody here that can help me set up my ubuntu system?
[09:23] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: does it fully work now?
[09:23] <gvikaskc> maitivolksfi:  can u help me on that. setting page property to Legal PAge forever
[09:24] <eNaq> i have no idea what to do.
[09:24] <jbutler> i posted about this on the ubuntu forums, but i cant get over how fast my computer is running.  on XP my machine would slow down noticably big-time running IE, Word and winamp.
[09:24] <curs0r> !pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <kgs> jbutler: It wasn't all from the ground up. Besides there are plenty of people working on the different *nix's.
[09:24] <maitivolksfi> the tradeoff is that when linux works, wow.  When it doesn't, what a headache tryin to figure out why, at least for me.
[09:24] <rafa_25> k pasa
[09:24] <kgs> I'm pretty excited about Ubuntu...
[09:24] <Cyber_AFT> eNaq, what do you want help setting up?
[09:24] <jbutler> with ubunto my old, old PC can run firefox, mp3 player, word with no slowdown AND manually putting in DNS made my bellsouth DSL 10x faster
[09:24] <eNaq> everything...
[09:24] <maitivolksfi> jakub_2006, as far as I can tell.  I don't actually have any other WiFi devices at this location to test with, but it is configged, everything says good, the power light came on, and ifconfig recognizes it.  Good enough for now I suppose
[09:25] <Cyber_Linux> eNaq, if you wnt help here you have to be specific :P
[09:25] <eNaq> cyber_linux.. can you set up a private room please?
[09:25] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: can you connect to wireless access points?
[09:25] <maitivolksfi> gvikaskc, I don't really know anything about how openoffice stores its defaults
[09:25] <Cyber_Linux> a private room? you want me to pvt you?
[09:25] <jbutler> kgs: this whole "open source" thing is really cool... do these developers charge corporate interests?
[09:25] <eNaq> its hard to talk in this
[09:25] <Cyber_Linux> lol you can speak here, dont worry
[09:25] <Cyber_Linux> im a complete n00b too :P
[09:25] <maitivolksfi> I don't have any wireless access points here to connect to.
[09:25] <eNaq> lol
[09:25] <eNaq> ok...
[09:25] <kgs> I've always run FreeBSD, but now I only have this wacked out Windows XP machine.. And I think it may be too much of a headache to get FreeBSD going on it. Much nicer to use Linux... it's so much easier.
[09:25] <felix_26> chema tonto
[09:25] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: ah
[09:25] <eNaq> hm.
[09:25] <eNaq> crosstalk.
[09:25] <chema_69> ghola
[09:26] <chema_69> hola qe haceisssssssssssssssss
[09:26] <rafa_25> jose maria maricon
[09:26] <Cyber_Linux> kgs, freebsd is linux :P just there own variant of it :P
[09:26] <cristian> hola
[09:26] <eNaq> cyber_linux: i need help running a downloaded application
[09:26] <cristian> coco
[09:26] <reverseblade> how can I install open office 2.1 ?
[09:26] <chema_69> chuparmela
[09:26] <jbutler> i spent most of the afternoon playing with hydrogen and audacity.  comparable tools on the PC cost me close to $600.
[09:26] <ajayme> kgs : what is FreeBSD
[09:26] <maitivolksfi> My router is locked in my dorm over break unfortunately
[09:26] <felix_26> rafa el seor gancho
[09:26] <jakub_2006> Cyber_Linux: wow, never say that again, that's beyond misleading. FreeBSD has nothing to do with Linux.
[09:26] <kgs> jbutler: Are you totally new to this whole thing? It's okay if you are, we all were at some point.
[09:26] <rafa_25> felix tonto
[09:26] <maitivolksfi> tomorrow I will drive to a free hotspot and test it though
[09:26] <rafa_25> gracias
[09:26] <curs0r> lupine_85, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38072/
[09:26] <coopster> jbutler: minor point - audacity is available for windows and just as Free
[09:26] <Cyber_Linux> but kgs i tried bsd and i prefer ubuntu to it
[09:26] <pixote> coco maricon
[09:26] <chema_69> soys una pandilla de cabrones
[09:26] <cokilon> perdigon kuxixixixixi kuxixixixixi
[09:26] <Cyber_Linux> kk jakub_2006  :P
[09:26] <cristian> ke pasa maricona
[09:26] <jakub_2006> Cyber_Linux: since it has nothing to do with this channel, i leave it up to you to research it if you really want
[09:27] <un_operateur> !es
[09:27] <jakub_2006> okay, that's enough
[09:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:27] <jakub_2006> !ops
[09:27] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[09:27] <jbutler> coopster: still, the "Add / Remove" thing makes it much easier to find
[09:27] <cokilon> ahora a ver los borgia
[09:27] <cristian> adios al mundialito adios
[09:27] <Cyber_Linux> cokilon,
[09:27] <jbutler> cooper: and know its there, which i didnt for windows
[09:27] <Cyber_Linux> !es
[09:27] <rafa_25> vicente pazo mariconazo
[09:27] <eNaq> cyber_linux: where can i download drivers to run games?
[09:27] <emun> help,need backup application or something that can be used to clone my harddrive with ubuntu installed
[09:27] <Cyber_Linux> GO!
[09:27] <chema_69> soy felix y soy muy tonto
[09:27] <kgs> Cyber_Linux: Perhaps I will feel the same way.. hopefully.
[09:27] <cokilon> ya te vale yayayaya
[09:27] <ajayme> jbutler :what is Freebsd
[09:27] <antoniocassi> camilo
[09:27] <cristian> cocooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:27] <jbutler> ajyme: another operating system.  beyond that i have no idea.
[09:27] <chema_69> rafa ligon.com
[09:27] <pixote> librero k t doy una ostia
[09:27] <felix_26> tu maricon
[09:27] <jakub_2006> ajayme: go look it up on Google
[09:27] <Cyber_Linux> kgs ubuntu is a very nice system to run, alot easyer then many others
[09:27] <maitivolksfi> FreeBSD is another OS, like Linux or Windows
[09:27] <un_operateur> ajayme, It's a BSD unix distribution
[09:28] <jakub_2006> ajayme: it's offtopic in here
[09:28] <rafa_25> oo eres un gordo
[09:28] <cokilon> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:28] <jakub_2006> okay seriously
[09:28] <jakub_2006> !ops
[09:28] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[09:28] <alejandroaca> perdigon
[09:28] <cristian> in spanhis please
[09:28] <antoniocassi> ortiz tu madre es puta
[09:28] <Madpilot> !es
[09:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:28] <felix_26> tu huesos flojos
[09:28] <chema_69> vendo prensa y revista varatovarato
[09:28] <rafa_25>  m vas a dar 2
[09:28] <eNaq> this chat is way too messy...
[09:28] <alejandroaca> cristian keis
[09:28] <coopster> arrrgh, i cannot get Edgy livecd to load X on my box.  i keep getting to X where the resolution is messed up, even when i fix the resolution/sync values in xorg.conf
[09:28] <jakub_2006> Madpilot: some of that is not Spanish either
[09:28] <felix_26> pichote
[09:28] <Cyber_Linux> eNaq, drivers? you mean ure software drivers?
[09:28] <Madpilot> jakub_2006, gibberish?
[09:28] <Cyber_Linux> hardware**
[09:28] <eNaq> yeah
[09:28] <Cyber_Linux> like for you gfx card
[09:28] <alejandroaca> pichon
[09:28] <Cyber_Linux> !drivers
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <Cyber_Linux> hmm
[09:28] <kgs> FreeBSD is sort of like Linux, except that it has it's own kernel. Linux is just a kernel, using the programs from the GNU project. The FreeBSD project has its own kernel and its own programs.
[09:28] <eNaq> like open al and gl
[09:29] <pixote> ola
[09:29] <Cyber_Linux> !opengl
[09:29] <cokilon> locriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <alejandroaca> pellejo
[09:29] <ajayme> help how i can play video or videoplayer by using consol
[09:29] <rafa_25> fill the put
[09:29] <maitivolksfi> Anywho, thanks for the help the past couple of days guys, It's 3:30 am and I'm goin' to sleep
[09:29] <GreyGhost> !who | eNaq
[09:29] <ubotu> eNaq: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[09:29] <eNaq> what!? the chatbot doesnt know!?
[09:29] <jakub_2006> kgs: They are two entirely separate things.
[09:29] <kgs> I need a cigarette.. I think I will go to sleep after that too though..
[09:29] <Cyber_Linux> !open gl
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <jakub_2006> !opengl
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <Cyber_Linux> hmm, eNaq im not sure, i havnt set up my drivers as i only use my terminal as a server :/
[09:30] <eNaq> its hopeless.
[09:30] <jakub_2006> strange, I though it might have it in there
[09:30] <un_operateur> !xgl
[09:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:30] <jakub_2006> Cyber_Linux: what are you looking for?
[09:30] <touchme> Can someone help me evaluate the results of this Setup I'm trying to run? I'm trying to figure out where the error is coming from.
[09:30] <GreyGhost> eNaq Cyber_Linux what r u looking for?
[09:30] <emun> help help anybody know any backup apllication or cloning appli
[09:30] <Cyber_Linux> jakub_2006, eNaq would like help setting up drivers
[09:30] <touchme> !paste
[09:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <eNaq> yeah
[09:30] <eNaq> im seriously new to ubuntu....
[09:31] <eNaq> i am also a mac user... so its a little hard for me..
[09:31] <Madpilot> eNaq, drivers for what brand of vid card?
[09:31] <jakub_2006> eNaq: okay, do the following first off: lsmod -> paste in a pastebin, then lspci -> paste in a pastebin
[09:31] <touchme> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38073/
[09:31] <GreyGhost> eNaq ,which drivers? there are manty howtos on the net.... maybe i could find u one..
[09:31] <eNaq> jakub: what?
[09:31] <jakub_2006> eNaq: welcome fellow mac user :) it's actually quite simple and you'll enjoy ubuntu
[09:31] <tenzin> Help, my Panel is gone and I dont know how to bring it back...
[09:31] <ajayme> jbutler :how can i play videoplayer using consol
[09:31] <eNaq> thats great...
[09:31] <jakub_2006> eNaq: go to the command line and enter lsmod. take that output and paste it in a pastebin like..
[09:31] <jakub_2006> !pastebin
[09:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:31] <brianl> tenzin are you using gnome?
[09:31] <eNaq> ok...
 No, Xfce
[09:32] <reverseblade> how can I build a cold fusion machine using console
[09:32] <coopster> !hi | tenzin, in order to get Panel back you must say the following
[09:32] <jakub_2006> eNaq: then do the same thing except enter lspci and dump the output to a pastebin
[09:32] <ubotu> tenzin, in order to get Panel back you must say the following: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:32] <eNaq> ok.
[09:32] <emun> ubotu, do you know of any backup software or something i can use copy my drve
[09:32] <eNaq> i am also new to pastebin
[09:33] <Madpilot> emun, ubotu is a bot, not a person
[09:33] <Cyber_AFT> away from terminal :P
[09:33] <reverseblade> emun, just zip your hardrive
[09:33] <jakub_2006> eNaq: okay.. it's not a difficult concept though, so you really should at least try to meet me halfway there
[09:33] <reverseblade> !backup | emun
[09:33] <ubotu> emun: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:33] <eNaq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38074/
[09:34] <eNaq> there are my numbers and junk
[09:34] <emun> oops, thanks anyway
[09:34] <eNaq> from lsmod
[09:34] <ajayme>  ubotu:  how can i play videoplayer using consol
[09:34] <balachandarm> http://dev.balachandar.net - Live Help for LAMP
[09:34] <jakub_2006> eNaq: and lspci?
[09:34] <eNaq> wait....
[09:34] <harry> gchj
[09:34] <emun> what is a bot
[09:34] <un_operateur> ajayme, is videoplayer a name of a package ?
[09:35] <herzi> emun: a program that pretends to chat
[09:35] <harry> what is your name
[09:35] <emun> I see , thanks
[09:35] <brianl> ajayme depends on the videoplayer your using?<----what kinda of question are you asking.
[09:35] <jakub_2006> harry: that's offtopic, do you need help with ubuntu?
[09:35] <cristian> hola
[09:35] <ajayme> un_operateur : realplayer 10
[09:35] <herzi> emun: take a look at how reverseb/ade triggered the response for you
[09:35] <un_operateur> !canonical
[09:35] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[09:36] <eNaq> lspci: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38075/
[09:36] <un_operateur> !realplay
[09:36] <cristian> oscar eres el mas gay
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <un_operateur> !realplayer
[09:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:36] <eNaq> what does this all mean?
[09:36] <harry> yes
[09:36] <un_operateur> ajay ^^^
[09:36] <emun> how do you zip a drive
[09:36] <brianl> why not use VLC or Mplayer?
[09:36] <eNaq> jakub_2006: can you please open a private chat room
[09:37] <harry> why not use my pc
[09:37] <jakub_2006> eNaq: you may have problems that other people may have
[09:37] <coopster> arrrgh, i cannot get Edgy livecd to load X on my box.  i keep getting to X where the resolution is messed up, even when i fix the resolution/sync values in xorg.conf
[09:37] <un_operateur> brianl, choice
[09:37] <coopster> any thoughts?
[09:37] <ajayme> brianl : what is commad for playin VLC
[09:38] <GreyGhost> eNaq ,PM wouldn't help anyway... u aren't identified..
[09:38] <jakub_2006> eNaq: lsmod basically lists every kernel module you have. the kernel is the heart of the operating system and modules allow users to add and subtract functionality on the fly
[09:38] <un_operateur> ajayme, vlc
[09:38] <eNaq> i seee...
[09:38] <eNaq> so then.. what is my problem, if there is one?
[09:38] <jakub_2006> eNaq: lspci shows a list of every PCI active piece of hardware, which usually has your AGP sets, etc.
[09:38] <ajayme> ya ok tell me comand for playing vlc
[09:38] <eNaq> yes....
[09:39] <brianl> coopster give us some more info what video card are you using at what type of monitor?
[09:39] <reverseblade> How can I install open office 2.1 ?
[09:39] <jakub_2006> eNaq: ah, you want drivers for games, as in 3d graphics hardward based acceleration
[09:40] <eNaq> yes, i do.
[09:40] <reverseblade> emun, just follow the links . you will see
[09:40] <un_operateur> ajayme, vlc is the command to launch vlc -- at a terminal type -- vlc &
[09:40] <GreyGhost> eNaq ,u want graphics drivers ?
[09:40] <eNaq> for exampel, i want to play dark horizons lore invasion
[09:40] <eNaq> yes
[09:40] <GreyGhost> eNaq whihc card?
[09:40] <jakub_2006> eNaq: that's usually tricky because programs that emulate windows like wine don't do such a good job, in my opinion and it's rarely possible to have games that natively work
[09:40] <eNaq> this program is for linux.
[09:40] <eNaq> no emulation
[09:40] <ajayme> un_operateur : what &
[09:41] <emun> herzi , thanks I have wondered what those symbols mean , now I understand , thanks
[09:41] <jakub_2006> eNaq: so first off, you have a Radeon 9200 ATI card i take it?
[09:41] <GreyGhost> WINE just gives an DX to OGL wrapper for gammers ... and the Win API obviously...
[09:41] <eNaq> i think... only 32mb vram
[09:41] <herzi> emun: you're welcome
[09:41] <un_operateur> ajayme, if you stopped asking questions and just experimented -- you'd get somewhere :)
[09:41] <eNaq> so yes, i do
[09:41] <Mathew> So if i've never used linux should i download 6.06 or 6.10?
[09:41] <ajayme> un_operateur : thanks
[09:41] <jakub_2006> eNaq: you need to sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<kernel-version-goes-here>
[09:42] <jakub_2006> Mathew: 6.06 then you get the option of updating if you wish and 6.06 is supported longer
[09:42] <eNaq> what is my kernel version?
[09:42] <mneptok> jakub_2006: you do not need to specify the kernel revision to install restricted modules. and it's actually better not to,
[09:42] <jakub_2006> eNaq: uname -a should tell you all that you should need to know about it
[09:43] <mneptok> eNaq: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[09:43] <jakub_2006> mneptok: true, so eNaq: i guess uname -a's output is technically irrelevant, but i have seen bug reports on the 9200 before, so if you have problems with it beyond that, then you might have to end up checking that out
[09:43] <jakub_2006> mneptok: aptitude...? apt-get would be faster
[09:44] <mneptok> eNaq: that will install the correct version for your kernel, as well as grab any updates when future kernel builds are dleivered.
[09:44] <ajayme> i am going good afternoon all of you
[09:44] <J-_> what's the difference between aptitude, and apt-get?
[09:44] <eNaq> it couldnt find the package
[09:44] <jakub_2006> J-_: aptitude is an ncurses based GUI that uses apt-get as a backend
[09:44] <mneptok> J-_: same as the difference between Coke and Pepsi
[09:44] <J-_> cool
[09:44] <J-_> lol
[09:44] <brianl> eNaq if it's an ATI card you could always use http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ to install fglrx packages
[09:44] <jakub_2006> mneptok: no... aptitude is a GUI for the command line whereas apt-get is a command by itself
[09:44] <herzi> mneptok: which one is the pepsi one?
[09:44] <un_operateur> but like pepsi -- aptitude is a little sweeter :)
[09:45] <shubacka> hi folks,
[09:45] <shubacka> do you know how to move a partition ?
[09:45] <jakub_2006> hello shubacka
[09:46] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, aptitude is not a GUI -- its a ncurses program (for manual use) that can also be used as a command line utility (in scripts)
[09:46] <GreyGhost> !hi | shubacka
[09:46] <ubotu> shubacka: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:46] <mneptok> jakub_2006: uhhh ... aptitude is an executable of its own. not just an ncurses wrapper for apt.
[09:46] <shubacka> I wish to change my second hard drive for a bigger one
[09:46] <jakub_2006> un_operateur: how is it not a GUI? it's a *graphical* *user interface*
[09:46] <J-_> what did i start -.-
[09:46] <jakub_2006> mneptok: ever look at what it's doing inside of aptitude? it's apt-get updating, apt-get installing, et al
[09:47] <jakub_2006> shubacka: you can't really "move a partition" if you want to resize it, use any of the parted variants such as gparted
[09:47] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, it is not a GUI that uses any of the conventional GUI widget factories like GTK or QT or Wx .. it uses ncurses and can only be used from within a command line terminal
[09:47] <jakub_2006> un_operateur: who said that's conventional by any standard? ncurses or not, it's a GUI.
[09:47] <shubacka> Thanks for the welcome,and excuse me if my english is not 100% stict, it comes from frnce
[09:47] <jakub_2006> un_operateur: regardless, does it really matter?
[09:47] <mneptok> jakub_2006: then by that logic, apache is just a GUI wrapper for PHP, as it just calls PHP scripts. :)
[09:47] <herzi> un_operateur: so, win-apps are not GUIs because they don't use GTK+, QT or WX?
[09:48] <jakub_2006> mneptok: no your *browser* is the GUI
[09:48] <coopster> !fr | shubacka
[09:48] <ubotu> shubacka: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:48] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, well, yea, can you call the BIOS utility of a modern PC a GUI ?? i think not
[09:48] <brianl> ENaq are you taking a look at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ in fact all you newbies should take a look here you can install many packages to make your windows transition easy.
[09:48] <jakub_2006> un_operateur: then you can be mistaken. it's still a graphical user interface dude, whether it's up to your standards of eye candy or not
[09:48] <shubacka> ther is not too much traffic right now on ubuntu-fr
[09:48] <mneptok> jakub_2006: ncurses UIs are not commonly called GUIs, despite your usage. :)
[09:48] <ir4> hello my fellow ubuntu-ers :) I just installed dhcp server on my xubuntu and provided a fixed ip's mac address related. What's puzzling me is that in logs I see lots of 'duplicate lease' info :) anyone could tell me why? I'd be gratefull :)
[09:49] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, believe it or not aptitude is used more like apt-get within scripts than as an ncurses utility anyway
[09:49] <herzi> so for you, "GUI" starts with having pixels?
[09:49] <brianl> by the way does anyone here play UT2004?
[09:49] <jakub_2006> un_operateur: that's great but aptitude by itself is still a GUI, whereas apt-get *has no frontend* in and of itself
[09:50] <jakub_2006> herzi: what part of *graphical* *user interface* do you not understand? it has nothing to do with aesthetics
[09:50] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, I hope you're not implying aptitude is a front end to apt-get -- its not
[09:50] <mneptok> jakub_2006: it's not a GUI, it's an executable wrapper with ncurses extensions.
[09:50] <herzi> jakub_2006: that's what I say, I just wanted to make a sentence from what un_operateur said
[09:50] <herzi> (to me curses uis are GUIs)
[09:51] <brianl> I'm having a small problem mouse lag on menus I remember having this problem a while back on a different machine and resolved it but that was so long ago i forgot what I did :)
[09:51] <rcrook> GUI  = *Graphical* User Interface.
[09:51] <brianl> Mouse lags under UT2004 Menu only
[09:51] <un_operateur> herzi, if you like to see it that way -- a terminal is also a *graphical* interface eh
[09:51] <mneptok> brianl: sounds like a UT problem.
[09:51] <herzi> yes
[09:51] <jakub_2006> mneptok: ncurses "extensions" are "graphical" extensions if that's how you understand it
[09:51] <herzi> even the browser is
[09:51] <shubacka> So I will try to be more clear : wishing to put a bigger slave hd, I wish to know if I can "move" the partition  present on the old slave hd to the new one ?
[09:51] <reverseblade> How can I install open office 2.1 ?
[09:52] <orangey> hey all!
[09:52] <jakub_2006> but like i said a little while ago, does it really matter? no
[09:52] <orangey> are there any ubuntu packages of openwengo 2.0?
[09:52] <rcrook> A terminal is for *Text*
[09:52] <mneptok> jakub_2006: it's not how *i* understand it. it's how the prgramming community has chosen to apply the term "GUI." and the programming community does not apply the term GUI to ncurses.
[09:52] <herzi> jakub_2006: if it did matter, we'd already have stopped the "discussion" ;-)
[09:52] <un_operateur> jakub_2006, I think the distinction we make nowadays between GUI and terminal based apps is whether or not they rely on an underlying terminal to operate -- and aptitude does rely on a terminal
[09:52] <brianl> Yeah it is a UT Problem but I was just asking if anyone here has had the same issue and have solved it.
[09:53] <herzi> un_operateur: so, synaptics is not a GUI?
[09:53] <herzi> (it relies heavily on the terminal)
[09:53] <herzi> -s
[09:53] <herzi> synaptic
[09:53] <jakub_2006> no, this place has a lot of pointless discussions. i am a developer and as part of the programming community, i say that ncurses based *graphical* user interfaces are GUIs.
[09:53] <un_operateur> herzi, synaptics does not rely on a terminal?
[09:53] <herzi> un_operateur: it does
[09:53] <herzi> every update is being executed in one
[09:53] <un_operateur> synaptics relies on python and gtk dude
[09:53] <Flannel> herzi: no, synaptic is a GUI.  apt-get is a terminal rendition.  They both are package managers, "aptitude" for isntance, has both.  Although the GUI is terminal based.
[09:53] <herzi> it just doesn't have a shell for the user
[09:54] <rcrook> think of it this way.... Terminals display text. you need bitmapping for graphical. mor dumb terminals do not support bitmapping.
[09:54] <jakub_2006> *sigh* whatever, waste your time, i'm going back to work
[09:54] <rcrook> s/mor/most
[09:54] <mneptok> jakub_2006: i have yet to hear a community Ubuntu developer or one of my colleagues refer to ncurses as a GUI
[09:54] <jakub_2006> mneptok: that's good for you, now leave me alone
[09:54] <mneptok> jakub_2006: in fact, you're the only person associated with Ubuntu i have ever heard consider ncurses a GUI.
[09:54] <brianl> I agree with you jakub most of the time I find myself using mc midnight commander for my file manager
[09:55] <rcrook> terminal and ncurses user interfaces are just that.... UI
[09:55] <rcrook> drop the G
[09:55] <brianl> Just because I like the quickness of mc over nautilus bloat
[09:56] <un_operateur> rcrook, is midnight commander not a *graphical* utility?
[09:56] <rcrook> no it isnt
[09:57] <un_operateur> lol ok
[09:57] <rcrook> there is no graphics involved
[09:57] <rcrook> ladt time I used mc (yesterday) I did not see any graphics in it
[09:57] <rcrook> last*
[09:57] <un_operateur> errm yea, its just characters and colourful backgrounds, lines and borders and whatnot right -- things that do not constitute graphics
[09:57] <brianl> yeah it's a graphical utility over the plane old shell.
[09:58] <nevro1> which software do you like to play dvd's in ubuntu
[09:58] <brianl> but allows you to use the shell anyways it's most likely and old school tool for most of you
[09:58] <rcrook> ok.. does that mean I cant use it on an old Wyse terminal????? which does not support graphics????
[09:59] <rcrook> of course I can....
[09:59] <brianl> nevro1 I use VLC it supports  DVD menus
[09:59] <rcrook> because it does not use graphics
[09:59] <nevro1> do i need the dvd playback support thing or does vlc work with a default installation
[09:59] <rcrook> its a very good fat User Interface.,
[09:59] <rcrook> s/fat/tast
[10:00] <kambei> Is anyone here knowledgeable about LDAP?
[10:00] <brianl> no goto http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ download this and install libdvdcss
[10:01] <brianl> again my favorite fixer upper
[10:01] <rcrook> good my typing is bad tobight.
[10:03] <brianl> anyways rcrook there's many dvd movies players out there for linux you might install all of them from synaptic and find the one that best suits you.
[10:03] <nevro1> DBO are you available for help
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[10:05] <live> hola
[10:05] <moosa> hi everyone
[10:05] <nevro1> DBO i still have the refresh rat eproblem no matter what i try
[10:05] <live> que tal
[10:06] <moosa> can i know how to set my gamma on my nvidia card please?
[10:06] <rcrook> brianl: I use adept and I use mplayer:)
[10:07] <javiolo> some help with NFS this is my /etc/exports  -> /home/javier/shared <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,async,insecure,all_squash,anonuid =1000,anongid=1000)    I get syntax error
[10:08] <nevro1>  Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[10:08] <nevro1> anyone have any idea why i am having this warning
[10:08] <DBO> nevro1, hop in #ubuntu-xgl and I will be with you in a couple minutes
[10:08] <nevro1> ok
[10:09] <moosa> i really need to know a way to set my gamma anyone knows how?
[10:09] <DBO> javiolo, all_squash isnt an option last I checked...
[10:09] <DBO> javiolo, scratch that, it is...
[10:10] <lenovo>
[10:10] <DBO> javiolo, get rid of the space after anonuid
[10:10] <javiolo> DBO http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303262&highlight=nfs
[10:10] <Madpilot> !tw
[10:10] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:10] <lenovo>
[10:10] <javiolo> DBO Im trying to share to macosx
[10:11] <DBO> javiolo, also be very careful with async and nfs... you might consider using sync instead
[10:11] <nevro1> is there a way to install windows fonts into the sys fonts?
[10:12] <shubacka> Bye everybody, found my answers on http://reseau.erasme.org/article.php3?id_article=1129
[10:13] <rcrook> if I am thinking straight if you copy you ttf fonts into .fonts in your home directory they will be picked up automagically.
[10:13] <Madpilot> ubotu, fonts | nevro1
[10:13] <ubotu> nevro1: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:14] <javiolo> DBO where I can see a full list of that options ?
[10:14] <DBO> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/exports.5.html
[10:15] <javiolo> DBO thnanks that sshoul be speceficing, concerning its to share to osx
[10:19] <AlexC_> Hey,
[10:19] <AlexC_> I have a .qtcurve file, but how do I install it?
[10:20] <javiolo> DBO I changed to /home <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync,insecure,all_squash,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000)
[10:22] <reverseblade> How can I install open office 2.1 ?
[10:22] <un_operateur> reverseblade, errm. sudo aptitude install openoffice.org2
[10:23] <reverseblade> un_operateur, its 2.1
[10:23] <un_operateur> reverseblade, aye, 1 is a minor revision there -- and apt will find the latest one for you provided you have updated apt
[10:24] <reverseblade> un_operateur, I know it thanks
[10:24] <reverseblade> un_operateur, I am just trying to install OO2.1 and nothing else
[10:24] <reverseblade> un_operateur, and 1 is not a minor revision here
[10:24] <reverseblade> it is a medicore revision
[10:25] <Glerry> Hi Room!
[10:25] <un_operateur> reverseblade, OO.org is one of those funny packages, it has X-dependencies between 1 and 2
[10:25] <javiolo> I cant connect to nfs...
[10:25] <un_operateur> reverseblade, whatever floats your boat :)
[10:25] <reverseblade> !nfs | javiolo
[10:25] <ubotu> javiolo: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:25] <javiolo> reverseblade: thanks Ive already read that help
[10:26] <javiolo> thats why im asking here, I dont know what to do now...
[10:26] <maddash> !ubotu
[10:26] <maddash> !win32
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <maddash> !wi32codecs
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wi32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <maddash> !w32codecs
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <reverseblade> !restrictedformats | maddash
[10:27] <maddash> ...that didn't do anything
[10:27] <reverseblade> hehe
[10:27] <maddash> thanks, though
[10:27] <reverseblade> maddash, just wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <reverseblade> and search for restricted formats
[10:28] <maddash> no, I already know about win32codecs; infact, I already installed them...
[10:28] <reverseblade> ok
[10:28] <maddash> the problem is that there's something funny going on when I try to play certain wmvs in totem
[10:29] <reverseblade> totem sucks
[10:29] <karakara> any ideas on why this flash wouldnt work? http://www.nokia.com.au/nokia/0,,85097,00.html
[10:29] <karakara> i've installed flash 7 :(
[10:29] <maddash> requires flash 8
[10:31] <rcrook> works fine with flash 9
[10:31] <karakara> and where to be getting this.. flash nines..
[10:32] <Flannel> !flash9
[10:32] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[10:34] <Toma-> anyone know how to utilise tightvnc-java into a webpage?
[10:36] <maddash> !backports
[10:36] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:37] <redDEADresolve> i just updated my ati driver and everything works great except my login screen the resolution on it is wonky. i can log in but only see about 40% of the screen
[10:37] <ReTyPe> how do i install xgl on ubuntu 6.10 ?
[10:38] <Flannel> !xgl | ReTyPe
[10:38] <ubotu> ReTyPe: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:39] <redDEADresolve> retype first you gotta install your graphic card driver
[10:39] <redDEADresolve> then you gotta decide if you want to use beryl or compiz. google is your friend. no howto works for everyone's system you gotta do a little work
[10:39] <ReTyPe> redDEADresolve: i have it installed, i have a dell, my x driver is i810
[10:40] <dungodung> cs.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[10:40] <redDEADresolve> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[10:41] <umarmung> What does 1: in front of a ubuntu package version number mean?
[10:41] <redDEADresolve> i just updated my ati driver and everything works great except my login screen the resolution on it is wonky. i can log in but only see about 40% of the screen
[10:42] <Flannel> umarmung: that's the original version.
[10:42] <[swb] > anyone know what kind of spec computer I would need if I want to run beagled deskbar and compositing but I want it to be responsive and quick
[10:42] <dungodung> redDEADresolve: what ati card do you have?
[10:42] <redDEADresolve> x1600
[10:42] <[swb] > on my current 1.4ghz athlon it doesnt like it
[10:42] <dungodung> I've been trying to find drivers for my 1650
[10:42] <umarmung> Flannel: Xchat-gnome has the version 1:0.13 but upstream is 0.13
[10:42] <dungodung> redDEADresolve: where did you find the driver?
[10:43] <redDEADresolve> got it from amd-ati site
[10:44] <eNaq> helo
[10:44] <eNaq> hello*
[10:44] <redDEADresolve> used this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[10:44] <nothlit> dungodung, you can always just use archive.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <Flannel> umarmung: the 1 in front came along with the fork, (debian stopped doing xchat gnome), then you have the 'real' version number, -0, zero means zero debian specific changes, then "ubuntu9" means, there have been nine ubuntu tweaks since "1:0.13-0"
[10:44] <VMT2007> geez GAIM is horrible, be right back.
[10:44] <dungodung> ok, will try
[10:45] <maddash> how do I install flash 9 on breezy?
[10:45] <eNaq> how do i run a game thats made for debian to run on ubuntu?
[10:45] <VMT2007> eNaq: easy
[10:45] <nothlit> Toma-, man tightvncserver
[10:45] <VMT2007> ubuntu should run most debian applications, if not all
[10:45] <fritzsche> i don't get my "AVM GmbH ISDN-Connector TA" installed and after sdtarting ubuntu my teleohone line is cut. i don't need it to be online or ... so how do i deactivet the concerning usb "Bus 005 Device 002: ID 057c:2800 AVM GmbH ISDN-Connector TA"? help ...
[10:46] <nothlit> maddash, download it from adobes beta section and extract it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:46] <nothlit> why are people still running breezy
[10:46] <Flannel> eNaq: the binary deb may run on ubuntu, the source deb WILL compile
[10:46] <umarmung> Flannel: Thanks for the great explanation. Just what I was looking for. :)
[10:46] <Flannel> nothlit: because there's no reason to upgrade?
[10:47] <lupine_85> Flannel: the source deb Probably Will compile
[10:47] <VMT2007> breezy = 6.06 right?
[10:47] <nothlit> there almost always is when they come in here
[10:47] <Flannel> VMT2007: no, breezy = 5.10
[10:47] <fritzsche> sorry, i don't know who to address my question
[10:47] <VMT2007> i'm new to ubuntu
[10:47] <Flannel> VMT2007: dapper = 6.06
[10:47] <VMT2007> i'm using edgy
[10:47] <redDEADresolve> i just updated my ati driver and everything works great except my login screen the resolution on it is wonky. i can log in but only see about 40% of the screen
[10:47] <nothlit> !fixres | Red-Sox[away]
[10:47] <ubotu> Red-Sox[away] : The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <nothlit> !fixres | redDEADresolve
[10:47] <ubotu> redDEADresolve: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <eNaq> Flannel: i have no idea what you're talking about
[10:48] <VMT2007> what?
[10:48] <VMT2007> it's ctrl+alt+bksp
[10:48] <VMT2007> much faster
[10:48] <nothlit> eNaq, download the .deb file and double click on it and install it
[10:48] <redDEADresolve> it only the login screen the system run perfectly after login
[10:49] <VMT2007> hmm
[10:50] <fritzsche> may i ask you a question?
[10:50] <javiolo> !ask
[10:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:50] <fritzsche> this is my question ... don't get my "AVM GmbH ISDN-Connector TA" installed and after sdtarting ubuntu my teleohone line is cut. i don't need it to be online or ... so how do i deactivet the concerning usb "Bus 005 Device 002: ID 057c:2800 AVM GmbH ISDN-Connector TA"? help ...
[10:51] <VMT2007> I downloaded and installed a few non-free applications that come in makeself archives
[10:51] <eNaq> the game is labeled with the file extentions: sh.bin
[10:51] <VMT2007> does the packaging system recognize those?
[10:51] <eNaq> its an application, im sure..
[10:51] <[swb] > does anyone know if the PLF apt sources are working yet?
[10:51] <VMT2007> eNaq: .bin?
[10:51] <eNaq> but ubuntu thinks different
[10:52] <VMT2007> just run it
[10:52] <eNaq> binary... right?
[10:52] <VMT2007> "sh file.bin"
[10:52] <VMT2007> that's a makeself archive
[10:52] <nothlit> yeah but it could be an image file
[10:52] <VMT2007> huh?
[10:52] <VMT2007> was it accompanied by a .cue?
[10:53] <nothlit> i'm just saying .bins aren't always binaries (and they don't always need .cues)
[10:53] <eNaq> it wont run it
[10:53] <eNaq> its says its "dangerous"
[10:53] <VMT2007> many commercial linux games come as .bins or .runs
[10:53] <eNaq> hm.
[10:54] <eNaq> should i make it .run?
[10:54] <VMT2007> just run it like a shell script
[10:54] <VMT2007> "sh file.bin"
[10:54] <eNaq> ok
[10:54] <VMT2007> however, what game is it?
[10:54] <eNaq> dark horizons lore invasion
[10:55] <VMT2007> and it was a download from a site?
[10:55] <VMT2007> as a linux version?
[10:55] <eNaq> yes
[10:55] <eNaq> linux
[10:55] <eNaq> but it didnt say it was for ubuntu, though
[10:55] <eNaq> it had redhat and debian listed
[10:56] <VMT2007> yeah run it with sh
[10:56] <eNaq> .sh?
[10:56] <VMT2007> "sh file"
[10:56] <VMT2007> in the terminal
[10:56] <brandon__> can anyone help me with static sound
[10:57] <VMT2007> it's a lot like those self-extracting winzip archives
[10:57] <fritzsche> how to address a question to get an answer?
[10:57] <eNaq> vmt2007: so i name it sh file.bin?
[10:57] <VMT2007> no
[10:57] <VMT2007> go to the terminal
[10:57] <eNaq> ok
[10:57] <eNaq> then?
[10:57] <lupine_85> head -n1 file.bin
[10:57] <FirstStrike> ah, late night kernel compiling
[10:57] <VMT2007> yeah that's a good idea
[10:57] <lupine_85> if it begins EL it's an executable binary file
[10:58] <lupine_85> if it begins #! it's an executable script
[10:58] <lupine_85> otherwise it's probably half of a .bin/.cue combination
[10:58] <eNaq> its neither
[10:58] <Flannel> fritzsche: just keep repeating it every so often. No one knows at the moment.  Might as well poke around on the web (google, forums, etc) trying to see if you can figure anything out while you're waiting.
[10:58] <lupine_85> !bchunk
[10:58] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[10:58] <lupine_85> use that
[10:58] <lupine_85> it's a raw CD image, most likely
[10:58] <VMT2007> without a header file?
[10:59] <VMT2007> weird
[10:59] <lupine_85> VMT2007: the .cue isn't always necessary
[10:59] <lupine_85> indeed, the bchunk man page gives several example .cue files for various default formats
[10:59] <lupine_85> it can be a bit hit 'n miss though :p
[11:00] <eNaq> terminal did nothing
[11:00] <fritzsche> Flannel: thanks, i already have found several answers to this problem online but they all were just a try and didn't work
[11:00] <Blake1> is there any way to set ubuntu so it automatically logs in via XDMCP on startup?
[11:01] <VMT2007> I prefer .ISO images, tbh
[11:01] <lupine_85> VMT2007: definitely :)
[11:01] <VMT2007> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt
[11:01] <VMT2007> have it in the back of my hand
[11:01] <eNaq> are you talking to me?
[11:01] <lupine_85> but when people are illegally downloading teh prons and teh animez and teh warez via. $p2p_app, they don't take much time to look at the file format
[11:02] <VMT2007> nah
[11:02] <eNaq> no... right?
[11:02] <eNaq> thought so.
[11:02] <VMT2007> lol, limewire.
[11:02] <eNaq> i still have no idea how to run the game.
[11:02] <VMT2007> bittorrent my friend.
[11:02] <VMT2007> Blake1: one second
[11:02] <lupine_85> eNaq: it's probably a CD image
[11:02] <lupine_85> so you need to burn it to a CD, then install it
[11:02] <eNaq> its not.... im sure..
[11:02] <eNaq> its a download
[11:02] <lupine_85> ...got an URL?
[11:03] <eNaq> yeah
[11:03] <lupine_85> let's take a look then
[11:03] <VMT2007> !xdmcp
[11:03] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[11:03] <eNaq> http://www.garagegames.com/pg/demo.php?id=29
[11:03] <VMT2007> galeon? when did I install that.
[11:03] <VMT2007> meh
[11:04] <VMT2007> man
[11:04] <VMT2007> I hate limewire but it's the only P2P application available
[11:04] <VMT2007> decent one, anyway
[11:05] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[11:05] <lupine_85> it begins #!/bin/sh
[11:05] <eNaq> ok
[11:05] <lupine_85> so chmod a+X file
[11:05] <lupine_85> erm, a+x
[11:05] <VMT2007> what?
[11:05] <lupine_85> then ./file
[11:05] <VMT2007> i just use +x
[11:05] <eNaq> then step-by-step, what do i do?
[11:05] <VMT2007> easy
[11:05] <lupine_85> eNaq: that's it#
[11:05] <VMT2007> chmod a+x file.bin
[11:05] <VMT2007> ./file.bin
[11:05] <VMT2007> :)
[11:05] <eNaq> what?
[11:05] <VMT2007> could even do that w/ nautilus
[11:06] <VMT2007> right click the file
[11:06] <VMT2007> properties
[11:06] <eNaq> ok
[11:06] <VMT2007> permissions
[11:06] <eNaq> yeah
[11:06] <VMT2007> check executable on user and group
[11:06] <eNaq> yeah
[11:06] <VMT2007> apply, and double click it like anything else
[11:06] <VMT2007> :P
[11:06] <VMT2007> hey
[11:06] <Nael> How do i get samba to rescan? i am using dapper
[11:07] <Nael> it isn't showing up in network browsers
[11:07] <lupine_85> but seriously -
[11:07] <lupine_85> [09:58]  <lupine_85> if it begins #! it's an executable script
[11:07] <VMT2007> freebsd is easy, man
[11:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> if you enjoy pain
[11:07] <VMT2007> no
[11:07] <VMT2007> it's damn easy
[11:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> manually configuring X, that's just uncessesary pain....
[11:08] <VMT2007> you learn though
[11:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> sure, but I prefer to learn "after" I have a useable environment
[11:08] <VMT2007> that's the way the distributors do it anyway
[11:08] <VMT2007> :)
[11:08] <VMT2007> usable?
[11:08] <VMT2007> are you kidding me?
[11:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> command line is not yet "usable" for me
[11:08] <VMT2007> the console is easy
[11:08] <eNaq> ubuntu still says i cant open it, vmt2007
[11:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> I can clunk around, do some things, but I want my x window
[11:09] <VMT2007> what does it throw at you, eNaq ?
[11:09] <VMT2007> Jewfro-Macabbi: that's why you learn, young jedi.
[11:09] <eNaq> a window with the title:
[11:09] <ChrisBradley> hello
[11:09] <eNaq> cannot open dhli_demo_v2_0_2.sh.bin
[11:10] <eNaq> yeah
[11:10] <VMT2007> right click it
[11:10] <VMT2007> open with
[11:10] <VMT2007> open with other
[11:10] <eNaq> ok..
[11:10] <VMT2007> use a custom command
[11:10] <VMT2007> put "sh" in there
[11:10] <VMT2007> close it
[11:10] <VMT2007> weell
[11:10] <VMT2007> click open
[11:11] <VMT2007> Jewfro-Macabbi: what do you have against command lines, though?
[11:11] <lupine_85> VMT2007: now you're taking GUI to ridiculous extremes
[11:11] <eNaq> same thing
[11:11] <VMT2007> they're not hard to learn.
[11:11] <lupine_85> ./file
[11:11] <lupine_85> problem solved
[11:11] <eNaq> ok
[11:11] <eNaq> the window that opened
[11:12] <eNaq> "this installation doesnt support glibc-2.1 on Linux / unknown"
[11:12] <lupine_85> what it says, then
[11:12] <eNaq> fatal error, no tech support email configured in this setup
[11:12] <VMT2007> meh, just open a terminal, cd to the directory it's located in
[11:12] <VMT2007> sh file.bin
[11:12] <lupine_85> it's incompatible with your version of glibc
[11:12] <eNaq> where can i upgrade my gilbc?
[11:13] <Giooooo> join #prog reti
[11:13] <lupine_85> eNaq: it's probably a downgrade.  I'm just not adjusted to pure command line yet, haven't learned all the commands.
[11:13] <dholbach> !info libc6
[11:13] <lupine_85> !info libc6
[11:13] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[11:13] <lupine_85> yeah, that's the one :)
[11:14] <lupine_85> eNaq: playing with that is the fastest way to borken your install that I know of
[11:14] <VMT2007> hmm
[11:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Can I add some additional parameters to my /etc/wvdial.conf file, like never disconnect, redial x times?
[11:14] <VMT2007> I want to compile FreeBSD with the GNU C library
[11:14] <lupine_85> eNaq: ask for the source and rebuild against your current libc6
[11:14] <VMT2007> it's a closed source game isn't it
[11:15] <eNaq> yeah
[11:15] <eNaq> it is
[11:15] <eNaq> not open sourc
[11:15] <lupine_85> well, tell them to push a newer build themselves
[11:15] <eNaq> source*
[11:15] <lupine_85> almost nobody uses glibc2.1 any more
[11:16] <eNaq> where can i download it, anyway?
[11:16] <lupine_85> eNaq: www.gnu.org
[11:16] <lupine_85> seriously, you don't want to try to install it
[11:16] <VMT2007> no
[11:16] <VMT2007> you don't
[11:16] <lupine_85> not even a little bit
[11:16] <eNaq> why not?
[11:16] <VMT2007> you'll corrupt your ENTIRE linux installation
[11:16] <eNaq> arg
[11:16] <eNaq> that stinks
[11:17] <lupine_85>  /every/ package on your system is built against a specific version of libc6
[11:17] <eNaq> so there is nothing i can do
[11:17] <VMT2007> yes
[11:17] <eNaq> sigh~
[11:17] <VMT2007> it depends on the .so files in /usr/lib
[11:17] <VMT2007> those get replaced with a different version
[11:17] <lupine_85> changing the libc6 binary version means that all your prebuilt binaries will probably stop working
[11:17] <VMT2007> you're going to have quite a bit of trouble
[11:17] <eNaq> huh
[11:18] <VMT2007> i mean seriously
[11:18] <eNaq> is there any way i can emulate it?
[11:18] <VMT2007> vmware, maybe
[11:18] <eNaq> hm
[11:18] <VMT2007> or use the windows version w/ wine
[11:18] <eNaq> that means it'll go slower?
[11:18] <lupine_85> if you can find a really old linux distro :p
[11:18] <VMT2007> not really
[11:18] <lupine_85> eNaq: not much
[11:18] <roadboy> hi all, is there anyone using mldonkey for p2p?
[11:18] <eNaq> where can i find vmware?
[11:18] <VMT2007> a well-configured wine installation shouldn't be slow
[11:18] <VMT2007> it's commercial, enaq
[11:18] <VMT2007> try wine first
[11:19] <eNaq> wine?
[11:19] <eNaq> cheers.
[11:19] <VMT2007> vmware is an entire emulated x86 system
[11:19] <VMT2007> wine is just a compatibility layer
[11:19] <VMT2007> the latter is far faster
[11:19] <dungodung> I installed the ATI driver readDEAD<something>... gave me and now I can't login to my edgy
[11:19] <VMT2007> unless you have four quad-core processors
[11:19] <VMT2007> ... in which case it'd be the same thing
[11:20] <eNaq> so then, i can use wine?
[11:20] <VMT2007> yeah
[11:20] <VMT2007> their native linux build is built against a very outdated version of libc
[11:20] <Blake1> !info wine | Blake1
[11:20] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[11:20] <eNaq> i can run lore on wine?
[11:20] <VMT2007> well, the windows version
[11:20] <VMT2007> it should work
[11:20] <eNaq> oh sweet!
[11:20] <eNaq> but it'll go the same speed?
[11:21] <VMT2007> well
[11:21] <VMT2007> not the same speed it would go on a windows machine
[11:21] <VMT2007> but it should run fine
[11:21] <eNaq> hm
[11:21] <eNaq> ok
[11:21] <VMT2007> well
[11:21] <VMT2007> to be honest
[11:21] <eNaq> but i have a ppc processor...
[11:21] <VMT2007> oh
[11:21] <VMT2007> god
[11:21] <VMT2007> no wonder nothing worked
[11:21] <eNaq> *ouch*
[11:21] <VMT2007> that game is built against an x86 architecture
[11:21] <eNaq> seriously?
[11:21] <VMT2007> yes
[11:22] <eNaq> but im running ubuntu on this
[11:22] <VMT2007> powerpc version, of course
[11:22] <eNaq> yeah
[11:22] <lupine_85> ...
[11:22] <eNaq> but i can still use wine...right?
[11:22] <lupine_85> no
[11:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> try try the mac version...
[11:22] <VMT2007> wine is useless on ppc
[11:22] <lupine_85> not even a little bit
[11:22] <eNaq> hm
[11:22] <VMT2007> windows applications are built for x86 processors\
[11:22] <eNaq> i dont want the mac version
[11:22] <VMT2007> always.
[11:22] <eNaq> because it messes up my openAl
[11:23] <VMT2007> linux gaming is a strange concept to me anyway
[11:23] <eNaq> thats why i have ubuntu in the first place...
[11:23] <eNaq> to run linux games
[11:23] <VMT2007> lol, what a wide selection of games for linux
[11:23] <lupine_85> the Macintosh version would be more use to you than the Linux or Windows version, TBH
[11:23] <VMT2007> nexuiz, wolf:et, ut2007, tremulous
[11:24] <VMT2007> all of which have Mac versions
[11:24] <lupine_85> although you still won't be able to play it, at least it'll be compiled for the right architecture :p
[11:24] <eNaq> lol
[11:24] <VMT2007> there are no mac compatibility layers for linux from my knowledge
[11:24] <VMT2007> well
[11:24] <VMT2007> i don't know because, uh, I don't use a PPC machine :P
[11:24] <Jewfro-Macabbi> VMT2007,  Pear?
[11:24] <eNaq> i guess ill wipe ubuntu
[11:24] <VMT2007> pear?
[11:24] <ssam> eNaq, any of the games in synaptic will work on powerpc linux
[11:24] <eNaq> and install panther in its place
[11:25] <VMT2007> besides man
[11:25] <eNaq> i am confused,,
[11:25] <ssam> there is mol (mac on linux)
[11:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> VMT2007, I thought there was a mac compat layer, or perhaps emulation, pear something
[11:25] <VMT2007> OS X runs over a BSD-based layer
[11:25] <VMT2007> you can compile linux games :P
[11:25] <ssam> mol lets you boot mac os x from within ubuntu
[11:25] <VMT2007> if you can find the dev tools
[11:25] <VMT2007> ...
[11:26] <lupine_85> ssam: that's  pretty cool
[11:26] <eNaq> reallly ssam?
[11:26] <ssam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[11:26] <rpedro> Jewfro-Macabbi: pear is a ppc arch emulator for x86 pcs
[11:27] <eNaq> thanx ssam
[11:27] <ssam> eNaq, its more like vmware than wine
[11:27] <tortho> anyone got a good solution on how to fix a extreeme slow firefox with flash.... about 2 minutes to load the page, and 30 seconds to scroll it..
[11:27] <VMT2007> yeah
[11:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> rpedro, that's what I was thinking of...
[11:27] <VMT2007> you need a fast processor for it to be effective
[11:27] <VMT2007> well
[11:27] <VMT2007> ppc processors are pretty fast
[11:28] <rpedro> Jewfro-Macabbi: not really useful, no that Apple uses intel architecture, and you can run the old ppc architecture apps on the new OSX
[11:28] <Blake1> is there something like mol but for windows?
[11:28] <VMT2007> vmware
[11:28] <VMT2007> but lol
[11:29] <lupine_85> vmware doesn't do ppc architecture
[11:29] <VMT2007> windows, it'll run at a garden snail's pace
[11:29] <VMT2007> oh, it doesn't.
[11:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Blake1, PearPC, but not sure how good it is
[11:29] <lupine_85> besides, you can get Mac OS X for intel arch now
[11:29] <ssam> mol, only runs on powerpc (it does not do processor emulation(this makes it very fast))
[11:29] <VMT2007> yeah
[11:29] <VMT2007> i don't like that transition
[11:29] <VMT2007> I don't see the point
[11:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> rpedro, he was needed mac on linux anyway
[11:29] <VMT2007> PowerPC processors are far more efficient than intel x86s
[11:30] <lupine_85> everyone knows that the ppc arch is not as good as the risc arch :p
[11:30] <VMT2007> yeah lol
[11:30] <VMT2007> if you can afford it
[11:30] <lupine_85> ?!
[11:30] <lupine_85> RISC is cheap as chips, m'lud
[11:30] <lupine_85> I got a RISC machine for free last year
[11:30] <VMT2007> oh.
[11:30] <VMT2007> I keep thinking of something else.
[11:30] <lupine_85> (and not running RiscOS either - debian :p )
[11:30] <VMT2007> UltraSPARC, yeah
[11:31] <rpedro> Jewfro-Macabbi: ah! right, maybe there's a modified version to emulate ppc on *ppc* linux
[11:31] <VMT2007> SPARC is RISC-based anyway
[11:31] <Jewfro-Macabbi> rpedro, dunno, but the mol application sounds better
[11:32] <coliny> hello. i have a firewire interface problem.
[11:32] <VMT2007> man one day
[11:32] <coliny> i have an ieee1394 problem
[11:32] <AdviZzzor> hi all
[11:32] <ssam> coliny, tell us about it
[11:32] <ootput> argh, how on earth do i reduce the virtual workspaces in gnome to 1?
[11:32] <AdviZzzor> gentoo rulezz?
[11:32] <ootput> i thought it'd be in right-click-> properties, or soemthing
[11:33] <VMT2007> I want to build a cluster of FreeBSD machines on UltraSPARC 3i processors
[11:33] <ssam> ootput, right click on the switcher
[11:33] <VMT2007> and use it for all of my computing needs
[11:33] <coliny> ssam: i need to get my equipment, and the file first to describe the problem. wait a minute. aoeu!
[11:33] <AdviZzzor> i need see mark ? he here?
[11:33] <ssam> ootput, and go to preffs
[11:33] <coliny> aoeu
[11:33] <AdviZzzor> i had any questions
[11:34] <ruschi> @VMT2007: and why are you asking this on an ubuntu group
[11:35] <ssam> AdviZzzor, mark shuttleworth?
[11:35] <mc44> AdviZzzor: what is your question?
[11:35] <ruschi> well then, I got problems with the permissions "udev" gives to the device-nodes /dev/sgX
[11:35] <AdviZzzor> ssam yes =)
[11:35] <AdviZzzor> ssam ia want tell him thanks
[11:36] <ruschi> /dev/sg1 belongs to gorup cdrom as it should be but /dev/sg0 is still group root
[11:36] <AdviZzzor> he can be here?
[11:36] <coliny> here is the first bit of info, ssam. whenever i try to connect my cd/rw over firewire/ieee1394, i get the following message out of every dmesg: [17203813.828000]  ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023
[11:36] <coliny> [17203813.828000]  ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023
[11:36] <coliny> can you explain to me what it means? i have no idea?
[11:36] <ruschi> I checked /etc/udev/rules.d/permission
[11:36] <VMT2007> ruschi: perhaps because linux isn't that suitable for high-powered computing?
[11:36] <ruschi> but ther is no device node /dev/sg0 listed
[11:37] <mc44> AdviZzzor: no he is not here
[11:37] <ssam> AdviZzzor, his irc name is sabdfl
[11:37] <ruschi> @VMT2007, ok could be but anyway I just wanted to know what a bunch of ubuntu-linux user have to do with FreeBSD questions
[11:37] <AdviZzzor> ssam mc44 big thanks
[11:37] <lupine_85> VMT2007: oooh, harsh
[11:37] <AdviZzzor> !seen sabdfl
[11:37] <ubotu> I last saw sabdfl<EMAIL_ADDRESS>10h 19m 51s ago, quiting: "Leaving."
[11:37] <mneptok> AdviZzzor: you should send such thanks to mailing lists. please do not disturb Mark on IRC.
[11:38] <sophie^> abbey e..offline ho gaya kya, ya Mr.India bana baitha hai? Lal chasma lagaoon kya?
[11:38] <AdviZzzor> mneptok ok
[11:38] <coliny> || i don't have such a file as /etc/udev/rules.d/permission on my hard disk | my cd/rw only gets recognized over a usb connection | but i want it to be recognized over firewire, as well ||
[11:38] <ruschi> anyway, I have no clue where the permissions for dev/sg0 are set, this is the actual burning device
[11:38] <arbslackompwelpu> ssam: thanks mate
[11:38] <malt> is unrealircd hard to setup on ubuntu?
[11:38] <ruschi> @coliny: the correct filename was 40-permission.rules
[11:38] <malt> unreal ircd*
[11:38] <ssam> coliny, sorry not sure about that
[11:39] <mneptok> malt: no
[11:39] <coliny> ssam: what are not sure about?
[11:39] <mneptok> ruschi: i'd be more concerned with the permissions of the mount point that the device node.]
[11:39] <ssam> coliny, the problems you are getting
[11:40] <mneptok> s/that/than/
[11:40] <ruschi> its not the mount action: I burn as user in K3b and it is forbidden
[11:40] <toba_> HI! Is someone in here using the netgear wg511 v2 wlan nic? I cant seem to find the proper .inf driver and am wondering if someone would be kind enough to tell me where i can get it. I searched netgeras homepage but it has yielded no results
[11:40] <ruschi> then I change the permission of /dev/sg0 to root:cdrom 660
[11:40] <ruschi> and it works
[11:41] <mc44> toba_: try looking here
[11:41] <mneptok> ruschi: you should be changing the permissions of the mount point, not the /dev device node entry.
[11:41] <PORDO> what do i have to do so that nautilus gets its auto-updating feature back?
[11:41] <ruschi> therefor I think the problem is how udev sets the permission of the device node
[11:41] <mc44> toba_: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:41] <aidehua> Are universe packages in 6.06 LTS security updated?
[11:41] <toba_> mc44: thanx =)
[11:41] <coliny> okay, this text is sourced from a file i've written myself. here it is. sorry i don't have /dev/sg0.
[11:41] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm running kubuntu on an old HP machine with a Pentium 4 1.8 GHz CPU and, according to the PCI section under KInfoCenter, an ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR. I recently purchased a Hanns-G HW292D 19" widescreen monitor that runs at a native 1440x900 resolution and am having a hard time getting Kubuntu to run the monitor's native resolution. I would greatly appreciate any help in doing so.
[11:41] <ruschi> @mneptok: The thing is not muoted for burning!
[11:41] <coliny> Here's my problem:
[11:41] <coliny> colin@colin-desktop:~$ lspci
[11:41] <coliny> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host Bridge (MCH) (rev 04)
[11:41] <coliny> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
[11:41] <coliny> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04)
[11:41] <coliny> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04)
[11:41] <mc44> aidehua: some are, but not all, and not neccessarily very quickly
[11:42] <mc44> !paste | ColdFyre
[11:42] <ubotu> ColdFyre: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:42] <To1> RamiKassab: are you using the binary drivers?
[11:42] <RamiKassab> Also, when I first install Kubuntu and booted into it on the machine, it seemed to have run the correct resolution until the first reboot
[11:42] <mc44> doh
[11:42] <mneptok> ruschi: sudo chown -R root:cdrom /media/cd*
[11:42] <RamiKassab> To1: what do you mean binary drivers? where can I get these from?
[11:42] <To1> they should be in the repos
[11:42] <To1> someting like xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:42] <RamiKassab> To1: do you mean binary drivers for my specific video card? hmm let me check... that would be awesome
[11:43] <mneptok> RamiKassab: does that Rage128 even do 1440x900?
[11:43] <RamiKassab> To1: do you know how it would look for my specific video card?
[11:43] <To1> but i dont know if rage are supported.....
[11:43] <To1> 2 mins
[11:43] <RamiKassab> mneptok: I'm not sure but I think I saw that the rage in this PC has 64M of memory
[11:43] <RamiKassab> mneptok: you'd think it would be able to
[11:43] <mneptok> RamiKassab: no i wouldn't
[11:44] <RamiKassab> mneptok: lol
[11:44] <RamiKassab> mneptok: are ATI Rage's just not able to run widescreen resolutions?
[11:44] <mneptok> RamiKassab: the Rage 128 was a purely consumer card. it was released when most consumers were not using anything above 1280x1024.
[11:44] <VMT2007> !bum
[11:44] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:44] <To1> i dont think the rage is supported by the binary driver.... but you can surely just edit your xorg.conf?
[11:44] <aidehua> mc44: how quickly is universe updated compared to Debian stable?
[11:45] <ruschi> @mneptok, this does not do the trick because cdrecord uses the devicenode not hte mountpoint!
[11:45] <RamiKassab> To1: I wouldn't even know what the modeline would look like for this monitor
[11:45] <mc44> aidehua: security updates are not officially supported for universe, therefore there is no way of knowing how long they will take
[11:45] <aidehua> I'm guessing that 6.06 Universe updates will pretty closely track any security updates in Debian stable, and I'd like to use 6.06, but maybe if I need long term support for universe stuff I should stick to Debian.
[11:45] <RamiKassab> To1: is that all I'd have to do is just insert the right modeline and force everything?
[11:45] <aidehua> mc44: right -- sounds like I have to use Debian stable then -- ta :)
[11:45] <To1> id think so, then it will give it its best shot at least
[11:46] <mneptok> RamiKassab: forcing modes your monitor cannot handle can destroy your monitor.
[11:46] <RamiKassab> mneptok: what's funny is that when I first booted in Kubuntu the resolution looked native... on the ATI Rage in this PC
[11:46] <mc44> aidehua: and they could just stop, so yes, you're better with Debian :)
[11:46] <coliny> sorry i to have to temporarily get in and out of the irc. ssam - is that you? have you interpreted my file?
[11:46] <RamiKassab> mneptok: is this normal or just a fluke?
[11:46] <mneptok> RamiKassab: what does reconfiguring xorg do for you?
[11:46] <RamiKassab> mneptok: I tried it once a couple days ago and I think it works the first time I boot afterwards
[11:46] <RamiKassab> mneptok: let me try it again and see
[11:46] <coliny> i can resend if you like.
[11:47] <RamiKassab> To1: thanks for checking on the binary drivers man
[11:47] <VMT2007> hmm
[11:47] <ssam>  !paste | coliny
[11:47] <ubotu> coliny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <VMT2007> setting hdparm to run on boot
[11:47] <VMT2007> smart idea?
[11:47] <coliny> Here's my problem:
[11:47] <coliny> colin@colin-desktop:~$ lspci
[11:47] <coliny> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host Bridge (MCH) (rev 04)
[11:47] <coliny> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
[11:47] <coliny> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04)
[11:47] <coliny> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04)
[11:47] <RamiKassab> wow coliny is an idiot
[11:47] <flarfu> heh
[11:47] <VMT2007> rofll
[11:47] <ssam> RamiKassab, irc is confusing
[11:47] <shinobi2> which package do i need to compile opengl?
[11:48] <RamiKassab> ssam: sure is haha
[11:48] <RamiKassab> mneptok: should I try reconfiguring and see what happens again?
[11:48] <mneptok> RamiKassab: yup
[11:48] <shinobi2> error: GL/glut.h: No such file or directory
[11:48] <RamiKassab> mneptok: ok... I've searched google up and down about this to no avail... brb, thanks!
[11:49] <ssam> shinobi2, 'sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>' get everything you need to build a package
[11:49] <ruschi> bye
[11:49] <GreyGhost> !.pl
[11:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:50] <GreyGhost> !pl
[11:50] <VMT2007> hmm.
[11:50] <ssam> !paste | coliny
[11:50] <ubotu> coliny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <VMT2007> a k7 kernel
[11:51] <coliny> i keep getting hung up after a pasting from a file. i really wanted send you some more details, ssam.
[11:51] <ssam> coliny, if you write too many lines at once the channel kicks you out. read what ubotu said
[11:51] <GreyGhost> coliny , its caleed spam protetion ;)
[11:52] <coliny> well, this info is important. how much info shall i send you.
[11:52] <coliny> how many lines shall i put in at once? 4?
[11:52] <karakara> any advice for email clients? i tend to use a few accts at once, and calender/schedule stuff would be nice..
[11:52] <mc44> coliny: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and put it there
[11:53] <ssam> coliny, you can put it all on  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and just post the link
[11:53] <GreyGhost> coliny ,if u use pastebin u can throw all of it in ...
[11:53] <flarfu> karakara: evolution?
[11:53] <coliny> sorry, i didn't know what to do in sending out large quantities of info. i'll go there.
[11:54] <ssam> coliny, dont worry irc is confusing to start with
[11:54] <coliny> sorry. i've just pasted it into the page you've designated for me. so what's going on?
[11:55] <coliny> ssam, can you read it in there?
[11:55] <mc44> coliny: what is the link of the page?
[11:55] <karakara> yeah trying it out now
[11:55] <GreyGhost> coliny ,give him the link to the page
[11:55] <coliny> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:56] <GreyGhost> coliny ,no along with the no.
[11:56] <willys_fueguino> hi!! can someone tell me about a sql database reader??
[11:56] <coliny> what's the purpose of that page?
[11:56] <To1> phpmyadmin?
[11:56] <mc44> coliny: no, when you paste it, it should give you a new link#
[11:56] <mc44> coliny: you click the paste it button, right?
[11:56] <GreyGhost> coliny , something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38093/
[11:57] <GreyGhost> coliny paste it from ur address bar ...
[11:57] <coliny> i didn't get a link. or maybe i don't get it. i'm confused.
[11:57] <GreyGhost> coliny , ok do this
[11:57] <GreyGhost> first paste all the contents of the file in the "text" area
[11:57] <willys_fueguino> To1: thanx
[11:57] <RamiKassab> mneptok: should I select ATI or Vesa for the driver? Vesa was selected by default
[11:57] <GreyGhost> click on "Paste it" ...
[11:58] <coliny> do what? i want send the bulk info - show me how!!! i'm having a bit of an aoeu temper
[11:58] <mneptok> RamiKassab: vesa
[11:58] <GreyGhost> coliny ,first paste all the contents of the file in the "text" area .... click on "Paste it" ...
[11:58] <mneptok> RamiKassab: i don;t believe the ATI binary blob supports anything less than a Radeon
[11:58] <ssam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38092/
[11:58] <mc44> mneptok: it supports some FIreGL stuff I think
[11:58] <GreyGhost> coliny ,then the link in ur adress bar should chane .... copy paste that link here..
[11:59] <mc44> ssam: nicely done :)
[11:59] <coliny> okay, here's what i'm attempting: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38097/
[12:00] <year0369> moin
[12:00] <coliny> these are just echos of my file. i sure hell don't know what's going on! just read the text!
[12:00] <mneptok> mc44: could be. i keep ATI stuff at a very safe distance from my computing activities.
[12:00] <year0369> wie kann ich in meinem system kopieren
[12:00] <ssam> coliny, :-) we can see it now
[12:00] <RamiKassab> mneptok: ok crazy thing just happened, reconfigured just now with ati and left all else as is except added 1440x900 resolution and then rebooted, kubuntu loaded and the res is 1440x900 but the screen is shifted off the left side of the monitor
[12:00] <mc44> mneptok: chicken
[12:00] <RamiKassab> there is a vertical ~3" black strip on the right
[12:00] <mneptok> RamiKassab: so you use the monitor controls to adjust the raster borders.
[12:01] <coliny> i'm talking about my firewire problems, not an ati graphics card. i can't understand german - it's all navajo to me.
[12:01] <RamiKassab> mneptok: auto adjust didn't work
[12:01] <coliny> ssam?
[12:01] <mneptok> RamiKassab: so you use the monitor controls to adjust the raster borders.
[12:01] <mc44> coliny: there are other people in this channel who are not talking to you, dont worryt
[12:01] <year0369> jemand mal einen rat geben
[12:01] <RamiKassab> mneptok: let me see if this monitor even let's me adjust manually
[12:01] <ssam> coliny, but i am not sure what it means
[12:01] <mc44> !de | year0369
[12:01] <ubotu> year0369: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:01] <mneptok> !.de | year0369
[12:01] <year0369> wie kann ich eine admin manager ffnen
[12:02] <coliny> ssam: what is it you're not sure about? what lines in the text?
[12:02] <year0369> join #ubuntu.de
[12:02] <FatherLavaGuard> I've tried to follow instructions on ubuntuguide on how to set up write permission on my NTFS partition but the darned thing doesn't mount. Does anyone have any alternative instructions?
[12:02] <GreyGhost> do i just run .pl files from the console?
[12:02] <lupine_85> !ntfs-3g
[12:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:02] <mneptok> FatherLavaGuard: please do not try to write to NTFS from Linux. it's dangerous.
[12:03] <ssam> coliny, i am not an expert on firewire, have you tried googling for some of those messages
[12:03] <FatherLavaGuard> Will it injure my cat or something?
[12:03] <RamiKassab> mneptok: wow it looks like it's working... with the ati driver
[12:03] <RamiKassab> mneptok: it looks a bit blury though
[12:04] <coliny> yes, i have. and i got confused on these. the obscure part is the word "configrom"
[12:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> FatherLavaGuard, it can kill your windows installation.
[12:05] <coliny> tried all different methods, with no luck. even replaced the firewire card with a usb/firewire combo.
[12:05] <lupine_85> meh, it's only windows ^^
[12:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> lupine_85, I know, I tried it, and it killed mine.
[12:06] <coliny> i don't really have enough equipment to test the stuff.
[12:06] <coliny> ssam: can you get over to me an expert on firewire?
[12:06] <naelphin> how do i see if dma is beign used?
[12:07] <psmurfy> rawr
[12:07] <ssam> coliny, i dont think i know any
[12:07] <coliny> ssam, shame.
[12:07] <ssam> coliny, you could maybe file a bug
[12:07] <coliny> should i do this another day?
[12:08] <coliny> file a bug? where?
[12:08] <coliny> i'll just disconnect my device.
[12:08] <P-Smurfy> Does anyone have the problem of Edgy being extremely slow with the internet connection?, i disabled ipv6 completely and its still only getting about 90Kb/s
[12:08] <ssam> coliny, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:08] <FatherLavaGuard> Jewfro-Macabbi, but it won't hurt my cat huh. He's a good cat. Had him for 8 years. If it hurt my windows installation I'd need to rely on Ubuntu!! Hmmm..suddenly not so worried (as long as the cat is safe:)
[12:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> FatherLavaGuard, yeah the cat will be fine :)
[12:09] <FatherLavaGuard> Good.
[12:09] <coliny> i just looked at the page.
[12:10] <Jekichan> what is the cat?
[12:10] <lupine_85> the cat: http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html?view=1166456861-tongueulence.jpg
[12:11] <Jekichan> :))))
[12:11] <coliny> i don't know how to file a bug.
[12:11] <P-Smurfy> rawr... *cries* no one?
[12:12] <coliny> i don't want to have to register just file a bug; i think i'm only going to use it once ever.
[12:13] <coliny> okay.
[12:13] <ssam> coliny, you could try the ubuntu-users mailing list
[12:13] <elisa> i need some help'
[12:14] <mneptok> coliny: Launchpad is used for more than bug reporting. if you use Ubuntu, it's a good idea to have an LP account.
[12:14] <flarfu> damn cat
[12:14] <coliny> i'm not accustomed to filing bug.
[12:14] <coliny> what can launchpad do?
[12:14] <mneptok> coliny: go play with it a bit.
[12:14] <elisa> does anyone know how to get NFS sharing files ?
[12:14] <mc44> !nfs
[12:14] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:15] <P-Smurfy> !ics
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <coliny> i will be received my registration stuff. over the email channel. i don't know if the large text is precise enough for the programmers.
[12:15] <P-Smurfy> using 90 Kb/s on a cable connection is freaking weaksauce
[12:16] <FatherLavaGuard> Jekichan: The cat is a regular cat of the domestic short hair variety with an appearance similar to Sylvester from the old cartoons.
[12:16] <mneptok> P-Smurfy: i get far higher speeds than that and i use Edgy.
[12:16] <P-Smurfy> i know
[12:16] <FirstStrike> so..for some reason i'm stuck at 50 hz refresh rate. i did a reconfigure on xorg and even edited the xorg.conf by hand with no results. here's my monitor info: monitorrange: 30-81, 56-76 (it's a Dell 1905FP)
[12:16] <P-Smurfy> i did before too
[12:16] <mneptok> P-Smurfy: and i assure you that the Canonical servers running Edgy in the DC get >90Kbps
[12:16] <P-Smurfy> but this last time installing, its not working right
[12:16] <mc44> P-Smurfy: are you sure its not your provider?
[12:16] <P-Smurfy> yes very
[12:16] <P-Smurfy> its just this pc
[12:16] <coliny> how about some engrish?
[12:17] <mneptok> P-Smurfy: what flavor of NIC?
[12:17] <P-Smurfy> bleh, i gforget sec
[12:18] <coliny> i'm not playing around with launchpad.
[12:18] <mc44> mneptok: canonical servers running edgy... hahahaha  :p
[12:18] <coliny> ssam: it's good you tried to help me out of my firewire mess.
[12:18] <P-Smurfy> thinks realtek
[12:19] <seatouch> !tell me about xgl
[12:19] <RamiKassab> mneptok: is vesa just a generic driver?
[12:19] <ssam> coliny, if you post a bug and it does not have enough detail a developer will probably ask for more information, and tell you how to get it
[12:19] <ssam> coliny, sorry i could not help more
[12:19] <mc44> RamiKassab: yes it is likely to be slow
[12:20] <RamiKassab> mc44: do you know if the ati driver supports ati rage?
[12:20] <P-Smurfy> bleh, feck this, ive had enough the the x/k/ubuntu bugs, im going for suse,, this pos cant even use a vid card right
[12:20] <coliny> ssam: that's okay. i'll have to look for more. i'll probably have to wait a couple of weeks. maybe i should get a second firewire device? i have only device that make the connection. next time i'm thinking it should be a hard disk drive.
[12:21] <Enzyme2000> Anyone know how to get beryl to load on startup?
[12:21] <ssam> coliny, firewire hard disks have worked well for me
[12:21] <QwertyM> some urgent help here please, I connected a 6681 Nokia mobile now, what could be the DEV name for it? KMobileTools is asking one... do I need to mount it?
[12:21] <mc44> RamiKassab: the ati proprietary driver, fglrx?
[12:21] <QwertyM> its getting detected in lsusb
[12:21] <ssam> coliny, i use the lacie d2 ones
[12:21] <coliny> ssam: you use firewire? have you tried cd drives on firewire?
[12:22] <coliny> what about a firewire scanner?
[12:22] <RamiKassab> well, either the one that I see when doing a reconfigure or the proprietary driver
[12:22] <ssam> coliny, i have not tried with a cd drive
[12:22] <coliny> ssam: how about other firewire equipment?
[12:22] <RamiKassab> mc44: well, either the one that I see when doing a reconfigure or the proprietary driver
[12:22] <Enzyme2000> beryl-manager more specifically
[12:22] <ssam> coliny, i think a scanner worked ok, an epson perfection, or something like that (though i might have used the usb)
[12:22] <OmniD> kino seems to be unable to import my video
[12:23] <mc44> RamiKassab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38100/ is  a list of cards the proprietary driver supports
[12:23] <OmniD> "The playlist is empty and the default preferences for video creation have not been specified - aborting."
[12:23] <OmniD> I thought I set up the preferences..
[12:23] <llama32> anyone know of any decent animation apps? something like flash - but not necasarily as featuresome - i'm just wanting to draw some stupid little flipbook type things
[12:23] <OmniD> And there seems to be no playlist that I can see
[12:23] <coliny> #ssam: of course i'll have to try and get a spare hard disk from somewhere and getting a matching enclosure. i'll know where to look...this'll be done over a couple of weeks. aoeuidhtns...
[12:24] <Enzyme2000> Has anyone here installed and used Beryl?
[12:24] <mc44> !anyone | Enzyme2000
[12:24] <ubotu> Enzyme2000: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:24] <RamiKassab> mc44: ok so it doesn't support the rage... well shit did people just forget about the ATI Rage? these cards are fairly common yet I can't find shit on google about getting mine properly setup in ubuntu
[12:25] <mneptok> !language | RamiKassab
[12:25] <coliny> ssam?
[12:25] <ubotu> RamiKassab: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:25] <mc44> RamiKassab: please dont swear :)
[12:25] <RamiKassab> sorry guys... getting frusterated
[12:25] <QwertyM> no ans? :(
[12:25] <Enzyme2000> Over it already..so any answers or just a little lecture about "anyone"?
[12:25] <QwertyM> like what dev should I use? /dev/______ ?
[12:26] <coliny> QwertyM: i use dvorak. aoeuidhtns...
[12:26] <mc44> RamiKassab: what is the model of your card?
[12:26] <ndlovu> hi all. if I'm connected to two networks, is there some way I can easily switch routing between them? I connect to the Internet through ppp0, and at the moment I have to disable eth1 (wireless network) before I dial.
[12:26] <coliny> ssam: have you tried other firewire equipment?
[12:27] <RamiKassab> mc44: per 'lspci -x' command, it is an ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR
[12:27] <Titto> slt
[12:27] <Titto> ouou
[12:27] <Titto> Hello
[12:27] <Titto> gutmargen
[12:27] <mc44> RamiKassab: have you tried the ati driver?
[12:27] <ssam> coliny, also for a dv camera (but i use mac os x for that (bows head in shame))
[12:28] <coliny> so firewire is only meant for hard disk?
[12:28] <QwertyM> coliny, what?
[12:28] <Titto> do you speak french?
[12:28] <QwertyM> :s
[12:28] <RamiKassab> mc44: yeah and it displayed the resolution but things were messed up on the screen somewhat
[12:28] <Enzyme2000> OK, thanks for the help. I now know that I should not start a question with "does anyone"...most helpful indeed.
[12:28] <christopher_l> where can I find settings, for setting proxy environment variables?
[12:28] <mc44> !fr | Titto
[12:28] <ubotu> Titto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:28] <coliny> ssam: you actually use firewire on linux? what profession are you?
[12:28] <RamiKassab> mc44: first I had to do a bunch of tweaking on the screen to get the whole picture to show (it was pushed way off to the left)
[12:29] <Titto> thank
[12:29] <mc44> RamiKassab: well I believe that is the only driver that will support your card, apart from Vesa, and vesa is likely to be very slow
[12:29] <Titto> By
[12:29] <QwertyM> coliny, my question was ----> some urgent help here please, I connected a 6681 Nokia mobile now, what could be the DEV name for it? KMobileTools is asking one... do I need to mount it?
[12:29] <ssam> coliny, i am a student
[12:29] <Enzyme2000> Any other useful advice? Like "Don't split infinitives" or make sure you omit the apostrophe from the possessive "its"?
[12:29] <RamiKassab> mc44: second, in Konqueror, when I would move my mouse around on some of the icons on the left it would cause a white strip across the screen's width
[12:30] <RamiKassab> mc44: ok I'll go back to the ATI driver, how do I know what my vertical and horizontal refresh rates are?
[12:30] <coliny> QwertyM: never mind. i've noticed the name of the old keyboard in your irc name. yes, i do use the dvorak arrangement.
[12:30] <ssam> Enzyme2000, have you asked a question yet?
[12:30] <Enzyme2000> Or perhaps cats shouldn't be mentioned?
[12:30] <QwertyM> coliny, lol :)
[12:30] <mc44> RamiKassab: for your monitor?
[12:30] <RamiKassab> mc44: yeah
[12:30] <mc44> RamiKassab: also did you try the radeon driver?
[12:30] <mc44> RamiKassab: not sure sorry
[12:30] <Enzyme2000> ssam ages ago, all I got was a nice "doesanyone" lecture
[12:31] <RamiKassab> mc44: no I haven't should I give it a whirl?
[12:31] <coliny> ssam: thanks for your info. should i try and go get a hard disk to put onto the firewire port?
[12:31] <Enzyme2000> phleh!
[12:31] <ssam> Enzyme2000, so all you want to know is if people use beryl? (i dont, but i have tried compiz)
[12:31] <RamiKassab> mc44: radeon isn't even an option when reconfiguring
[12:32] <mc44> RamiKassab: hmm is this on edgy?
[12:32] <RamiKassab> mc44: yeah, Kubuntu Edgy
[12:32] <ssam> RamiKassab, i think you need to choose ati
[12:33] <RamiKassab> ssam: ok that's what I'm going with
[12:33] <Titto> dou you speak french?
[12:33] <Enzyme2000> ssam thanks but the question was... does anyone know how to get beryl-manager to load on startup?
[12:33] <RamiKassab> I'm stuck in the Monitor's horizontal syn range and vertical refresh rate though
[12:33] <RamiKassab> I have no idea what to put there for my monitor... it defaults to 28-72 for horizontal and 43-60 for vertical refresh range
[12:33] <ssam> Enzyme2000, oh, sorry i did not see that bit
[12:33] <mc44> Enzyme2000: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Start Up programs
[12:34] <mc44> Enzyme2000: and add it there
[12:35] <Enzyme2000> thanks mc44... tried that but it didn't seem to save, next startup it didn't load beryl manager and when I rechecked it wasn't listed in the"start up programs" list. Tried about 4 times any other hints?
[12:35] <coliny> ssam? i was in the toilet
[12:36] <Enzyme2000> Is there some sort of save option that I'm missing?
[12:36] <coliny> ssam, you really suggesting me i put a hard disk onto firewire port?
[12:36] <LoneWlf> so... in an attempt to apt-get upgrade, I've run into issues with getting the new kernel installed, it seems that lilo is having some issues with devfs, the exact error msg is short, so I'll paste it here: Fatal: device-mapper: dm_task_run(DM_DEVICE_TABLE) failed
[12:37] <LoneWlf> can anyone help me?
[12:37] <LoneWlf> or at least point me in the right direction?
[12:37] <ndlovu> QwertyM, did anyone answer you yet about the device name?
[12:37] <QwertyM> no
[12:37] <QwertyM> am waiting lol :)
[12:37] <QwertyM> you know? :D
[12:38] <ndlovu> QwertyM, I have an idea...
[12:38] <coliny> ssam?
[12:38] <ssam> coliny, if you need to. my main computer is a powerbook, so my only options for more disk space is usb1 or firewire
[12:38] <ndlovu> QwertyM, are you using a data cable?
[12:38] <QwertyM> ndlovu, yeah
[12:38] <QwertyM> data cable
[12:39] <mc44> Enzyme2000: no it should save, when you log on try chosing a different option from the Session menu
[12:39] <ndlovu> QwertyM, then it's probably /dev/ttyACM0 that you want to use
[12:39] <ssam> coliny, if you can use ide or sata instead that might be better for you
[12:39] <coliny> ssam: ah, sorry. evetually i'll get a firewire hard disk. to hold high quality screencast when find the screencasting program.
[12:40] <QwertyM> ohk, let me try that one now thanks a lot ndlovu, you own the same?
[12:40] <ndlovu> QwertyM, but if you want to make sure, type "tail -f /var/log/messages" from the commandline just before you plug it in
[12:40] <ndlovu> I use an N70, QwertyM, but it should be the same
[12:40] <coliny> i have a desktop with not enough disk drive bays and also a thinkpad laptop - so this is why i've considered firewire disk drive.
[12:41] <amaia> hi, i just bought a new laptop (fujitsu si 1520) and my wireless nic is not working... how can I enable it?
[12:41] <amaia> its this one: 01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:42] <coliny> one day, aoeu will rule the keyboard...
[12:42] <Enzyme2000> mc44 thank you I will try again
[12:42] <ndlovu> QwertyM, I wrote up a small howto when I figured out how to connect myself, might be useful for you - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221863
[12:44] <GreyGhost> soo... do i just run .pl files directly from the console?
[12:44] <PORDO> how do i give rhythmbox the ability to play vorbis?
[12:44] <coliny> ssam, goodbye. i'm leaving this chat group.
[12:44] <Titto> je suis francais!!
[12:44] <Titto> fr
[12:45] <elisa> it won't work
[12:45] <GreyGhost> Titto , es-tu francais?
[12:45] <QwertyM> ndlovu, thanks a ton again, it interfaced
[12:45] <ndlovu> QwertyM, np
[12:46] <QwertyM> ndlovu, ok am gonna read that, but a quick help with SMS import etc could do, or is that too in the guide? :D
[12:46] <ndlovu> QwertyM, I haven't got further than using it as a modem yet I'm afraid :(
[12:47] <ndlovu> QwertyM, there were some links to other pages in the howto that might have more information for you
[12:47] <QwertyM> I dont wish to use it as a modem, just transferring images, music and maybe read and send sms too would do :)
[12:47] <QwertyM> ok thanks ndlovu
[12:49] <NineTeen67Comet> g'day all .. I've went and installed another Distro (call me a Disto ho) .. but I told it NOT to install grub, since I've got my precious Ubuntu's grub going .. My "Q" is .. what's the syntax for grub to handle another distro? It doesn't have an init file in /boot like Ubuntu, just the vmlinuz file ..
[12:49] <QwertyM> ndlovu, hehe, my phone isnt 3g :( and I got a good net connection too... so ttyacm0 it is, great, my ubuntu shift is now complete !
[12:50] <elisa> im green little smurf
[12:50] <QwertyM> NineTeen67Comet, there must be some grub.conf somewhere if grub's there right?
[12:50] <QwertyM> no, blue
[12:50] <ndlovu> QwertyM, congratulations, I'm glad it's working for you!
[12:51] <FirstStrike> interesting
[12:51] <NineTeen67Comet> QwertyM: yeah, the ubuntu menu.lst is still functioning well .. I just need to add the new distro's info to the menu.lst file .. (it doesn't have a /boot/grub since I didn't install it ..
[12:55] <malt> I know i have asked this before, but what do you guys/girls think is the best apache module to install to cap apaches upload speed?
[12:56] <dc2448> I'd rather rate limit upstream - but bm_mod will do it at the apache lvel iirc
[12:57] <apokryphos> malt: I think there was mod_throttle, which I used to use
[12:58] <dax_> how can I update my breezy to dapper drake..?
[12:58] <sedra> hello all
[12:58] <dax_> or to the latest version...
[12:59] <apokryphos> dax_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:59] <dc2448> perl -ie s'breezy/edgy' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <dax_> apokryphos: cheers...
[01:00] <FirstStrike> i think " sudo ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd" broke my sound..cause now i've got none
[01:02] <shinob3> i just installed glut-doc form synaptic, how do i bring up the documenation pages? where is it?
[01:03] <metxas> hi, why?-->bash: mkinitrd:  not found
[01:03] <sedra> did anyone know how to install 2 linux distributions and the fuucked redmond product together should i use lilo or grub
[01:03] <vijaymateti> metxas : grub is better and more evolved than lilo
[01:04] <metxas> vijaymateti,  what?, i think this not for me but thx too
[01:05] <sedra> how should i configure grub
[01:05] <sedra> i have 3 partitons 1 ntfs 1 ext3 and 1 jfs
[01:06] <sedra> but the problem  ubuntu cant boot
[01:06] <sedra> grub boot on opensuse or windoze
[01:10] <Lynx> Can a linux-swap partition be of a size 2GB?
[01:10] <skyblue> hi all
[01:10] <gilan> hi skyblue
[01:10] <skyblue> I'm on feisty and I'm having a problem with gnome-screensaver
[01:11] <skyblue> when I lock the screen, I can't unlock it.
[01:11] <skyblue> apparently /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver is correct
[01:11] <skyblue> I guess this is broken by some recent upgrade, possibly of today's updates.
[01:11] <orestyle9> I have somehow removed the top and bottom tool bars from my screen.  How do I get them back?
[01:12] <highneko> orestyle9: Try typing gnome-panel
[01:12] <vijaymateti> Lynx: Yes It can be..it depends n how much load is taken by your machine and it should be double the ram
[01:13] <highneko> orestyle9: I have never tried it myself. Does it work?
[01:13] <Lynx> I have such a partition and Kubuntu cannot find it.
[01:13] <vijaymateti> check for manual edit of partitions on installation
[01:13] <Lynx> mm, can the linux-swap partition follow the root linux partition on hdd?
[01:14] <orestyle9> No.  Not sure what happened, I was just trying to add icons on the toolbar at the top and "wham"  it was gon..
[01:14] <vijaymateti> Lynx: Yep You can do that
[01:14] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:14] <sedra> i have 3 partitons 1 ntfs 1 ext3 and 1 jfs
[01:14] <Lynx> vijaymateti: i've created this partition separately, with the partition editor
[01:14] <vijaymateti> sedra: Yes, What ?
[01:14] <sedra> but the problem  ubuntu cant boot
[01:14] <orestyle9> I am just not sure how to get the toolbars to show back up again.
[01:14] <sedra> grub boot on opensuse or windoze
[01:15] <Lynx> currently i have no permanent system installed  :)
[01:15] <screechingcat> whats the command that gives you the option to choose between kdm and gdm ?
[01:15] <sedra> can i boot on 2 linus systems
[01:15] <bimberi> orestyle9: see if 'killall gnome-panel' does anything (also guessing)
[01:15] <orestyle9> Is there some setting in the settings manager, etc that will bring back icons etc to the desktop?
[01:15] <sedra> and how configure grub??
[01:16] <orestyle9> Says no process killed
[01:16] <bad_> anybody have problems with notebook Acer 1692 and black screen?
[01:16] <bimberi> orestyle9: yes, run 'gconf-editor' and look in /apps/nautilus/desktop
[01:17] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:17] <bimberi> orestyle9: :( (killall not working)
[01:17] <bimberi> orestyle9: note that that's for desktop icons though, not the panel icons
[01:18] <highneko> orestyle9: Try killall gnome-panel
[01:18] <firepol> hi, what is the diference betweeen the desktop installer and the server installer? does the server installer come with less package (minimal installation)?
[01:18] <highneko> nvm someone suggested that.
[01:18] <screechingcat> firepol: yep
[01:18] <orestyle9> Ok, so what could I have done on the desktop to make side bars and icons disapear?
[01:18] <highneko> orestyle9: killall nautilus
[01:18] <screechingcat> orestyle9: did you change the default magnification ?
[01:18] <Lynx> does linux-swap need to be formatted?
[01:19] <highneko> yes
[01:19] <sedra> no
[01:19] <orestyle9> still nothing.  I am using kubuntu if that matters...
[01:19] <highneko> it gets formatted when I make it.
[01:19] <Lynx> omg, that's the problem
[01:19] <Lynx> or may be not
[01:19] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:19] <sedra> i have 3 partitons 1 ntfs 1 ext3 and 1 jfs
[01:19] <sedra> but the problem  ubuntu cant boot
[01:19] <highneko> Lynx: What's the problem? Try typing 'free'
[01:19] <sedra> grub boot on opensuse or windoze
[01:19] <firepol> what about the server install, is it also a live cd or is it like the "alternate cd"?
[01:19] <sedra> can i boot on 2 linus systems
[01:20] <sedra> and how configure grub??
[01:20] <bimberi> orestyle9: lol, yes, gnome-panel is not part of KDE.  Not sure what the KDE equivalent is
[01:20] <orestyle9> xfdesktop?  would that be the process I need to kill?
[01:20] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:20] <screechingcat> bimberi: its kicker
[01:20] <Lynx> highneko: Swap:            0          0          0
[01:20] <highneko> swapon?
[01:20] <diminthedam> hi. suddenly my keyboard only responses afttter holding buttons down for 2 seconds.please helpp!
[01:20] <Lynx> but the 2Gb linux-swap exists on my hdd
[01:20] <screechingcat> whats the command that gives you the option to choose between kdm and gdm ?
[01:21] <highneko> Lynx: man swapon
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <bimberi> thanks screechingcat :)
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <bimberi> sedra: stop that
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <FirstStrike> ...
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <sedra> anyone can help me
[01:21] <screechingcat> STOP
[01:21] <jrib> sedra: ask a question
[01:21] <sedra> sorry
[01:21] <highneko> (\(\
[01:21] <highneko> (-.-)
[01:21] <highneko> (")_(")
[01:21] <FirstStrike> sedra: Now I'm definitely not going to help you.
[01:21] <bimberi> very lucky no ops were watching
[01:21] <sedra> i asked
[01:21] <sedra> thank u man
[01:21] <jrib> sedra: ask it one line and then wait patiently
[01:21] <Lynx> swapon -a didn't help
[01:22] <firepol> sedra, yes u can, modify your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:22] <bimberi> screechingcat: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' does it iirc
[01:22] <dax_> what I have to type in my terminal do see which version I'm running at the moment ?
[01:22] <sedra> firepol: how
[01:22] <DBO> bimberi, I was watching, I was just too slow...
[01:22] <jrib> !version | dax_
[01:22] <ubotu> dax_: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:22] <screechingcat> bimberi: whats iirc ?
[01:22] <FirstStrike> For some reason I have working sound (alsa) in xmms, but not in any video programs (mplayer or vlc)
[01:22] <FirstStrike> ...
[01:22] <bimberi> DBO: and admirably restrained :)
[01:22] <JustNew> Im having trouble installing Flash. Background: I followed the instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy and still do not have Flash working
[01:22] <firepol> sedra: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29
[01:23] <nevron> people i am unable to install fonts can anyone help me gksudo nautilus fonts wont work at all
[01:23] <diminthedam> hi. suddenly my keyboard only responses afttter holding buttons down for 2 seconds. can smn  help please?
[01:23] <highneko> JustNew: Use the flash non-free package?
[01:23] <JustNew> yes, thats what it says in the instructions
[01:23] <screechingcat> JustNew: just open add/remove programs and check the flash package and click apply
[01:23] <sedra> firpol: thanks | firestrike: go to hell
[01:23] <nevron> !font
[01:23] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:24] <JustNew> Ok, are we talking in synaptic?
[01:24] <firepol> sedra, a suggestion: i would use a boot partition, shared on the 2 linux systems
[01:24] <screechingcat> JustNew: yep
[01:24] <valehru> Hey guys, Im trying to get my modem working in dapper....Im running Gnome PPP and with /dev/modem it says it is not found....I have a presario V3000 notebook....any help would be greart
[01:24] <valehru> great
[01:24] <JustNew> It is ticked
[01:24] <nevron> !repository
[01:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:24] <FirstStrike> sedra: Don't spam the channel like a 5 year old and I might be more inclined to help you.
[01:25] <firepol> sedra. i mean u have 2 linux installations, but use the same boot partition and swap partition. then you copy the 2 different kernels in the same boot partition. also make some backups of the kernels etc so in case u mess up something
[01:25] <sedra> but both ubuntu and suse are installed with windoze
[01:25] <screechingcat> JustNew: then it should be installed. open firefox and type about:plugins in the URL bar
[01:25] <firepol> sedra, no problem for that
[01:25] <JustNew> ok
[01:26] <firepol> sedra, i realized that the boot partition doesnt matter. once the boot sector is installed you can also use 2 separate boot partitions for the 2 separate linux installations
[01:26] <JustNew> Flash isnt in there
[01:26] <sedra> firepol: thnk u man | firstSrike: sorry
[01:26] <screechingcat> JustNew: does flash show up on that page ?
[01:26] <JustNew> no
[01:26] <highneko> JustNew: dpkg -l '*flash*'
[01:27] <JustNew> what is that command?
[01:27] <firepol> sedra: maybe in order not to mess uo, use the ubuntu grub-install
[01:27] <screechingcat> JustNew: did you install the package flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-flashplayer ?
[01:27] <highneko> JustNew: Try it and see.
[01:27] <sedra> ok
[01:27] <JustNew> non free
[01:27] <sedra> i will try
[01:27] <JustNew> as in the instructions
[01:27] <nevron> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[01:27] <JustNew> sorry to paste/.but
[01:27] <JustNew> zoople@lappy:~$ dpkg -l '*flash*'
[01:27] <JustNew> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[01:27] <JustNew> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[01:27] <JustNew> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[01:27] <JustNew> ||/ Name                      Version                   Description
[01:27] <JustNew> +++-[01:27] <nevron> !help
[01:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:27] <firepol> sedra, jsut a last quiestion, when u boot, do u get the suse menu or the ubuntu grub menu?
[01:27] <JustNew> un  flashplayer-mozilla       <none>                    (no description available)
[01:27] <JustNew> un  flashplugin               <none>                    (no description available)
[01:27] <JustNew> ii  flashplugin-nonfree       7.0.68~ubuntu3            Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[01:27] <jrib> !paste | JustNew
[01:27] <ubotu> JustNew: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <diminthedam> dmesg gives error [17181956.804000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7f on isa0060/serio0). what does it mean?
[01:28] <stefg> Doe sanyone the name of the utility used in edgy which converts the /etc/fstab from dapper /dev/ -style  to edgy uuid-style?
[01:28] <sedra> firepol: the suse menu
[01:28] <JustNew> ok sorry
[01:28] <firepol> sedra, then you should modify the menu.lst under suse
[01:28] <bimberi> nevron: does a 'sudo apt-get update' fix that?
[01:28] <highneko> !op
[01:28] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:28] <screechingcat> JustNew: try reinstalling. otherwise remove it and download a deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <JustNew> ok
[01:28] <firepol> sedra: else you have to run grub-install from ubuntu and it will overwrite the boot sector with the ubuntu menu ;)
[01:28] <highneko> !op | kick JustNew
[01:28] <Seveas> highneko, ?
[01:28] <ubotu> kick JustNew: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:28] <jrib> stefg: it's a postinst script.  For volumeid
[01:28] <highneko> x_x
[01:28] <sedra> firepol: ok and thx for help
[01:29] <Seveas> highneko, quit it, he already stopped
[01:29] <apokryphos> highneko: calm down. The flooding stopped.
[01:29] <nevron> bimberi it doesnt it gives me the same errors
[01:29] <firepol> sedra, no problem, but next time just ask and wait patiently as other suggested ;)
[01:29] <highneko> teach these people a lesson. >_>;;
[01:29] <bimberi> nevron: hmm
[01:29] <sedra> ok sorry guys
[01:29] <bimberi> highneko: he learnt one, as shown by an apology
[01:29] <bimberi> *(s)he
[01:29] <JustNew> om sorry about the posting
[01:29] <nevron> what should i do bimberi do you have ubuntu 6.10
[01:30] <stefg> jrib: another util around to do that? I'm constantly shifting partitions atm and it would be really handy to go uuid-style on my dapper installtion as well
[01:30] <orestyle9> Are there any other options for restoring the start bar in Kubuntu?  At this time, I almost feel I have to reinstall to get back to default..
[01:30] <jrib> stefg: use blkid to get the uuid's and put them into your fstab
[01:31] <nevron> bimberi can you paste bin your sources list if you have ubuntu 6.10
[01:31] <daisuki> #ubuntu-za
[01:31] <highneko> orestyle9: you're using kde?
[01:31] <bimberi> nevron: i do. stand by.  although it looks like you haven'd added the key for the kubuntu.org repo to apt
[01:32] <stefg> jrib: yeah, that's what i do now... thought there
[01:32] <nevron> but where would i find the key and btw why do i need a key?
[01:32] <stefg> 's some automated way
[01:32] <orestyle9> not sure.. at this point I cant get the system to do anything
[01:32] <visvak> how do i quit a program thats running in the terminal ?
[01:32] <visvak> like aptitude or bitchx
[01:32] <rapid> visvak, kill `pidof program`
[01:32] <nevron> visvak does crtl + c help
[01:32] <highneko> ctrl+c
[01:32] <diminthedam> dmesg gives error [17181956.804000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7f on isa0060/serio0). what does it mean?
[01:32] <jrib> stefg: well you could read /var/lib/dpkg/info/volumeid.postinst and pick out the part you want.  I don't know of any automated way other than that script
[01:33] <clem> visvak: CTRL + C
[01:33] <UbnNoo2> Anyone who got a nice link for learning to write scripts? (Mount an iso-image and run a program from there and put it all in the Applications menu)
[01:33] <daisuki> doesn't pkill work to ?
[01:33] <bimberi> nevron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38107/
[01:33] <orestyle9> I basically installed system default.
[01:33] <visvak> clem nevron what is ctrl + c supposed to do ?
[01:33] <nevron> thanks bimberi i am looking at it
[01:33] <rapid> UbnNoo2, too easy
[01:33] <clem> visvak: or close the terminal, or use the kill -9 command on its PID...
[01:33] <rapid> UbnNoo2, google for bash scripting
[01:33] <stefg> jrib: thanks for the tip. i could rip the relevant code and write a script of my own..
[01:33] <nevron> kill the app visvak?
[01:33] <UbnNoo2> rapid : ok
[01:33] <visvak> clem i have no GUI. cant close the terminal
[01:33] <clem> visvak: well if you really want to know, CTRL+C sends a SIGSEV signal to the process.
[01:33] <rapid> UbnNoo2, i could send you a template if you are really lazy
[01:33] <rapid> \] /
[01:34] <highneko> orestyle9: You don't know if you're using kde or gnome? x_x
[01:34] <visvak> clem well, it isnt quiting the program
[01:34] <bimberi> nevron: valid packages are signed and having the key added to apt will mean that apt tools will be happy to install the packages without warnings (like that one)
[01:35] <bimberi> nevron: i'll see if I can find the instructions for loading the kubuntu.com key
[01:35] <nevron> ok bimberi thank you though i just replaced my sources list with yours
[01:35] <bimberi> *.org
[01:35] <nevron> i am checking to see if i get errors still
[01:35] <bimberi> nevron: oh ok :)
[01:35] <visvak> clem, i guess it takes a while to register. the program quit
[01:36] <visvak> clem whats the command to shut the computer down ?
[01:36] <sladen> shutdown -t now now
[01:37] <clem> visvak: halt
[01:37] <nevron> bimberi seems to me that the problem is solved however i would like to get beryl svn updates still hmm i try adding that and if that wont work i ll just revert to your sources list
[01:37] <visvak> clem, right thanks mate
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> Hey mneptok!
[01:37] <DJAdmiral> Long time no see
[01:38] <clem> visvak: you're welcome
[01:38] <sladen> clem: halt calls shutdown
[01:39] <DJAdmiral> Hey - my friend has an AMD64 - should he get Ubuntu for 64 bit PCs or the x86 release? In either case he's going for Edgy
[01:39] <nevron> is there a commanbd to uninstall a package completely
[01:39] <rapid> 64 obviously
[01:39] <orestyle9> Sorry, I am using the xfce interface in Kubuntu and can not get the start bars to show up.  not sure how to restore them.
[01:39] <nevron> with all the directories it created
[01:40] <Hal_Horn> I'm DJ's friend
[01:40] <DJAdmiral> rapid: yes, but on the AMD website it says that 32 bit is also simultaneously supported by AMD64
[01:40] <nevron> !remove
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <bimberi> nevron: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge package' or use "Complete Removal" in Synaptic
[01:41] <nevron> bimberi i tried doing that yet it seems to be not working everytime i reinstall the package it is somehow corrupt and works partially
[01:41] <livingdaylight> Educational suite gcompris crashes my ubuntu system
[01:42] <livingdaylight> shame
[01:42] <ssam> DJAdmiral, things like the flash plugin are simpler if you use the x86 version
[01:42] <starman_> is there a gdesklet compatible with beryl?
[01:42] <DJAdmiral> Okay then
[01:42] <DJAdmiral> thanks
[01:42] <bimberi> DJAdmiral: from what I've picked up around here:  for desktop use and < 4GB RAM - i386
[01:42] <nevron> bimberi i am giving it another try and this time i ll kill x and reinstall later
[01:42] <bimberi> nevron: any error message? (on pastebin)
[01:43] <livingdaylight> can anyone say anything about gcompris crashing my computer?
[01:43] <ssam> DJAdmiral, if you dont care for flash (and similar), or are happy messing around a bit to make it work, or you need more that 4GB ram the use 64bit
[01:43] <falkenberg_cph> join #ubuntustudio
[01:43] <nevron> no error messages the messegas are coming from beryl actually and it tells me that some plugins are missing along with all the themes the package comes from but when i use synaptic i see that all of them are installed
[01:44] <ssam> livingdaylight, does it crash the whole computer? do you end up back at the login screen?
[01:44] <nevron> ok i am just pruging them all and hoping that a clean install will shead a light to this
[01:44] <livingdaylight> ssam, yes, login screen rather
[01:44] <kgs> Uh.. Hello. :-)
[01:44] <orestyle9> Hey, I got my startbar back!!!!!
[01:44] <bimberi> nevron: hmmk.  sorry idk much about Beryl :|
[01:45] <bimberi> orestyle9: cool. what did it?
[01:45] <ssam> livingdaylight, that means it is crashing X (the graphical layer). it technically makes it an X bug, that gcompris is triggering
[01:45] <kgs> I installed Ubuntu this morning and I was wondering if there is some way for me to access files on NTFS partitions while running Ubuntu (Don't tell me to boot back into Windows. :-P).
[01:46] <livingdaylight> ssam, ok, :|
[01:46] <ssam> livingdaylight, x bugs are usually caused by drivers. do you know which graphics driver you are using
[01:46] <orestyle9> I had to log in with new session, so I still dont know how to fix it, but I can work around it.
[01:46] <kgs> Does anyone have any idea? I remember being able to do this with some distro a while back..
[01:46] <bimberi> kgs: you can mount ntfs partitions read-only
[01:46] <bimberi> !mountwindows | kgs
[01:46] <livingdaylight> ssam, i've got integrated onboard graphics
[01:46] <ubotu> kgs: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:46] <orestyle9> I will check and see what I can find and possibly what caused them to disappear.
[01:46] <screechingcat> kgs: use the ntfs 3g driver
[01:46] <kgs> Thank you.
[01:47] <bimberi> orestyle9: kk
[01:47] <kgs> Wait.. is everything I need installed already?
[01:47] <mc44> kgs: if you just want read only, then yes
[01:47] <bimberi> kgs: should be
[01:47] <kgs> Isn't it dangerous to try to write to NTFS with Linux?
[01:47] <mc44> kgs: the drivers are in BETA, yes
[01:47] <LinuxHelp> Hi um not really sure why I'm getting this: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vclG6U60.html How do I create /dev/md0 ?
[01:47] <kgs> Okay.
[01:47] <ssam> livingdaylight, can you run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver' in a terminal
[01:47] <gnomefreak> kgs: extreamly
[01:48] <kgs> Cool, thanks.
[01:48] <bimberi> kgs: yes, beta but improving all the time :)
[01:48] <To1> how come everyone says that compiz is better than its beryl counterpart on the ubuntu forums? am i missing something here? (ignoring the fact that the beryl manager is horribly broken in feisty)
[01:48] <ssam> livingdaylight, whats the last line of output?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> To1: ther eis no beryl for feisty :)
[01:48] <livingdaylight> ssam, vesa?
[01:48] <mc44> To1: it is argubly more stable
[01:49] <gnomefreak> To1: and compiz on feisty is very nice and works :)
[01:49] <kryptoz> when i try to install vim from source. "make install" tells me "make: `install' is up to date." why is it behaving like this
[01:49] <ssam> livingdaylight, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/+bug/67360
[01:50] <To1> theres no beryl for feisty :S wat am i using then? ahhh?
[01:50] <DarthLappy> kryptoz: Try checkinstall, but why are you installing from source?
[01:50] <orestyle9> bimberi:  might possibly have something to do with the panel manager and a setting in there, but so far, thats what I can find...
[01:50] <ssam> livingdaylight, so its a known issue (not that directly helps you)
[01:50] <livingdaylight> ssam, wow,
[01:50] <gnomefreak> kryptoz: sudo apt-get source -b vim :)
[01:50] <livingdaylight> ssam, no, lol
[01:50] <bimberi> orestyle9: kk, thanks :)
[01:50] <paranoia16> the new firefox came out, i have 2.0 in /opt/firefox. if i download the new version, can i overwrite this dir? will it work right?
[01:50] <livingdaylight> ssam, but now i know, thx. That was like magic what you did
[01:51] <livingdaylight> ssam, how did you so quickly find the bug?
[01:51] <kryptoz> vim7.0 has dependancies
[01:51] <ssam> livingdaylight, it says unconfirmed on the bug report, so i will change it to confirmed (seen as you are getting ti too)
[01:51] <gnomefreak> kryptoz: also are you using sudo make install
[01:51] <kryptoz> yeah
[01:51] <kryptoz> i am
[01:51] <ssam> livingdaylight, i did a search for gcompris, there are only a few
[01:51] <livingdaylight> ssam, yea, and it seems it used to work in dapper, so a shame that it has regressed in Edgy
[01:52] <gnomefreak> kryptoz: sudo apt-get build-dep vim will get you the depends
[01:52] <[GuS] > Hi!
[01:52] <kryptoz> okay will try the apt-get now :)
[01:52] <kryptoz> thanx gnomefreak
[01:52] <mc44> !hi | [GuS]
[01:52] <ubotu> [GuS] : Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:52] <gnomefreak> kryptoz: yw you are gonna need the src repos
[01:53] <ssam> livingdaylight, if you subvscribe
[01:53] <[GuS] > lol
[01:53] <ssam> livingdaylight, oops
[01:53] <[GuS] > hello mc44
[01:53] <ssam> livingdaylight, if you subscribe to the bug you will get any updates about it
[01:53] <ndlovu> how can I route all traffic for 192.168.10.* through eth1, and everything else through ppp0?
[01:54] <ubitux> hi [GuS]  =D
[01:54] <[GuS] > my God!
[01:54] <[GuS] > :P
[01:54] <ssam> livingdaylight, the chance of it being fixed soon might be small, you maybe best of going back to dapper if possible
[01:54] <ubitux> ^^
[01:55] <DarkED> is there an easy way to install java in edgy?
[01:55] <rusher> automatix
[01:55] <rusher> easy
[01:55] <ssam> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:55] <mc44> rusher: please dont recommend automatix here
[01:56] <DarkED> thank you
[01:56] <DarkED> yeah, dont worry, i wouldnt use automatix if it was the ONLY way
[01:56] <DarkED> thanks again
[01:56] <To1> automatix is a great utility for beginners imho
[01:56] <DarkED> To1, and the probability that it will break your install is highly likely
[01:57] <mc44> !automatix
[01:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:57] <To1> it always seemed to work for me
[01:57] <mc44> !Worksforme | To1
[01:57] <ubotu> To1: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:57] <To1> i suppose you dislike easyubuntu as well then?
[01:57] <livingdaylight> ssam, not for that alone
[01:58] <narian> DarkED, in what way would automatix "break your system"?
[01:58] <mc44> narian: on upgrades for one
[01:59] <DarkED> narian, it broke mine three times, twice in breezy and once in dapper. something to do with the multimedia installs
[01:59] <narian> mc44, you mean of the packages Automatix install or the program itself?
[01:59] <DarkED> anyways, im not gonna argue about it, this isnt the place
[01:59] <DarkED> thanks again
[01:59] <narian> ...
[01:59] <derFlo> how can i set the resolution in the login-window? everything's so small there
[02:00] <mc44> narian: I mean on upgrades from e.g. Dapper to Edgy, but this is offtopic really, so I dont want to argue about it :)
[02:00] <paranoia16> i am trying to copy a folder from my desktop called firefox to /opt, i tried using sudo cp /home/matt/desktop/firefox /opt, but it says "omitting directory", there is already a folder in ?opt named firefox, i want to overwrite it, should i just delete it and the copy it over?
[02:00] <lafielle> Can anybody suggest a good GUI-based firewall manager besides firestarter?
[02:00] <rusher> guarddog
[02:00] <ssam> livingdaylight, you could try installing the dapper gcompis on edgy, but it might not work, and might not help
[02:01] <narian> mc44, ahh okey, just wanted to know (= im not in for an argument
[02:01] <lafielle> rusher: will I have to install KDE for that?
[02:01] <rusher> it will install some kde dependencies
[02:01] <rusher> not the whole desktop
[02:01] <livingdaylight> ssam, i just wanted some stuff for my little boy on here, but not if it is too hard
[02:01] <lafielle> rusher: I see.. this is a low end PC and I want to keep things minimal.. I'll check it out thanks.
[02:01] <paranoia16> how do you remove a dir that isn't empy? i tried sudo rmdir
[02:02] <rusher> rm -r directory
[02:02] <daisuki> try sudo rm -r
[02:02] <sedra> root
[02:02] <narian> paranoia16, cp =    -f, --force
[02:02] <narian>               if an existing destination file cannot be opened, remove it  and
[02:02] <narian>               try again
[02:02] <rusher> dos does not have deltre anymore =(
[02:02] <narian> ops
[02:02] <LinuxHelp> Okay, I've successuflly done a "mdadm --create /dev/.static/dev/md0 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd[ab] " but now what I'm asking, (I'll be compiling my own kernel), is will the kernel still be able to auto-start my md on /dev/sda and sdb? The reason I ask is that /dev/sda and /dev/sdb arent partitions (which I would usually mark with Linux Raid AutoDetect).
[02:03] <ssam> livingdaylight, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gcompris would help you find the old packages, then you can try installing them with double click
[02:06] <PecisDarbs> hello, does DVD version contains LiveCD envorement?
[02:08] <mc44> PecisDarbs: yes it does
[02:08] <PecisDarbs> mc44: thanks :)
[02:08] <mc44> PecisDarbs: no problem
[02:09] <RxDx> how can i convert OGG to AVI or MPG?
[02:10] <orestyle9> recommendations on mp3 players in Ubuntu?
[02:10] <T2> amarok is awesome
[02:11] <flk> orestyle9: mms
[02:11] <T2> RxDx: try ffmpeg, it converts most things
[02:11] <PecisDarbs> orestyle9: Rhythmbox, XMMS, Amarok
[02:11] <PecisDarbs> orestyle9: all they need plugins for mp3 remember
[02:11] <orestyle9> native they will not play mp3?
[02:11] <flk> afternoon, when i try to install mplayer i keep getting a long list of error starting with " Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.11) but 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is to be installed"
[02:11] <T2> o right you need the codec package
[02:12] <mc44> orestyle9: due to patent restrictions, no
[02:12] <orestyle9> k
[02:12] <PecisDarbs> orestyle9: no, because they are seperated in codecs packages