[09:26] <LjL> Ranbee: most of them. some more also.
[09:26] <Synner> hello everyone..  question about the installation of ubuntu server from CD...  I start comp with cd in the drive..  selection screen comes up..  however i can't do anything, i am guessing its due to the fact that my mouse and keyboard are USB.. what should I do?
[09:27] <Blissex> JsonT: a supported chipset, of which there aren't many.
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> Well i'm using both > and &> but its not writing that stuff to the textfile
[09:27] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[09:27] <exhale> ok thanks, jrib
[09:27] <gandolftheiwzar1> k
[09:27] <nolimitsoya> Synner, unplug and replug
[09:27] <Ranbee> LjL: great, i'll see what i can find out now :)
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> its just making a blank textfile
[09:27] <LjL> GhostFreeman: what's the command you're using precisely
[09:27] <Blissex> GhostFreeman: #BASH but first read a nice tutorial...
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> scp
[09:27] <justmike> Blissex:  I guess I am not asking the question the right way....from a security standpoint, are there updates to the Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD that I should grab so I don't get attacked by a known vulnerability?
[09:27] <Synner> nolimitsoya: tried that, every single port on the comp.. none worked
[09:28] <nolimitsoya> Synner, is you usbcontrollers enabled?
[09:28] <Blissex> justmike: probably yes. Always a good idea.
[09:28] <exhale> justmike, you cant install updates when running the live cd i think
[09:28] <tritium> justmike: 6.10 will be released next week.
[09:28] <LjL> GhostFreeman: scp what?
[09:28] <RawSewage_> How can I throttle the speed with KLibido
[09:28] <Blissex> justmike: anyhow you got to install to do that.
[09:28] <Synner> i believe so, I have XP on the system now..  everything works fine..
[09:28] <GhostFreeman> scp ~/irclogs/Rizon/index.html ghostfreeman@<REMOVED>:public_html/chanstats > ~/errtextfile
[09:29] <GhostFreeman> index.html being the output from pisg
[09:29] <gandolftheiwzar1> what is the postbin addy please
[09:29] <jrib> GhostFreeman: erm I think it may actually be >& not &>
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > GhostFreeman
[09:29] <Synner> nolimitsoya, i believe so, I have XP on the system now..  everything works fine..
[09:29] <Ranbee> it looks like i need ubuntu-desktop, thanks for the help
[09:29] <LjL> GhostFreeman: and you want the errors to be logged to errtextfile? if so, use "    2> ~/errtextfile"
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > gandolftheiwzar1
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> GhostFreeman: sorry wrong person :-(
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> Synner, usb legacy keyboard enabled in bios?
[09:30] <GhostFreeman> what about all text?
[09:30] <GhostFreeman> even if it's not an error?
[09:30] <LjL> GhostFreeman: programs have to standard ways to output stuff to the console: "standard output", and "standard error". you need to redirect the one(s) you need. you redirect stdout with "1>" (or just ">"), and stderr with "2>"
[09:30] <blackmamba23> hi all
[09:30] <blackmamba23> i have an issue when i try to compile something
[09:31] <LjL> GhostFreeman: i don't know how scp behaves in that respect, but it may conceivably use stderr for its diagnostic output
[09:31] <justmike> The updates won't stay, but technically can't I install everything except the Linux kernel and still run the Live CD with the understanding everything will disappear when I shut the box off?  (Correct me if I am wrong.)
[09:31] <blackmamba23> after i run configure at the and i have this problem
[09:31] <blackmamba23> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[09:31] <GhostFreeman> this really dosen't help but I appreciate it
[09:31] <mistform> herro
[09:31] <ianmacgregor> What must I install to get Firefox to be able to load pdf documents?
[09:31] <LjL> blackmamba23: install libxml-parser-perl
[09:31] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27529/
[09:31] <Plecebo> I just did a clean install of Edgy and when i rebooted i get a blank screen (i thought x config but when i switch to a virtual terminal via ctrl+alt+f1 the screen scrambles). I can hear the "i'm ready for you to login sound" and if i type my username and password it will make the "i'm logging in sound" but still no display, any ideas?
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> !restricted > ianmacgregor
[09:32] <peteweez> Does anyone know a shell command to reset a USB port (i.e. reconnect my iPod after ejecting without physically disconnecting the USB cable)?
[09:32] <LjL> !edgy > Plecebo
[09:32] <GhostFreeman> been trying to get a cronjob that would generate and upload a stats page for an IRC channel to work for the past couple of days and i'm not having any luck
[09:32] <JsonT> maybe im just slow, but ive got a integrated wlan card in a hp compaq nc8000 laptop and want that to work, im sorry if i missed the other answer.
[09:32] <Celeste> hi
[09:32] <GhostFreeman> the script works fine in bash, but not in cron
[09:32] <mistform> ianmacgregor, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_PDF_Reader_.28Adobe_Reader.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:32] <Plecebo> LjL,  thanks
[09:33] <ianmacgregor> mistform: Ahh, thank you
[09:33] <Celeste> I just started ubuntu via Live-CD ... how can I install  grub or lilo or whatever bootloader there is available?   I installed WIndows XP to a partition and it killed my bootloader I had
[09:33] <Ranbee> is there a way to inistall everything included in the ubuntu-desktop, except for all the OOo stuff, using aptitude?
[09:33] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[09:33] <anon32> why would anyone want Adobe's PDF reader?
[09:33] <mistform> because of lack of experience, an
[09:33] <peteweez> anon32: Adobe's reader is a little more accurate than say xpdf.
[09:33] <mistform> anon32
[09:33] <anon32> Celeste, run grub from a terminal
[09:33] <mistform> yeah
[09:33] <mistform> .....
[09:33] <Mow02> anon32, isn't adobe reader more "compatible" or something
[09:34] <peteweez> It runs slower though
[09:34] <anon32> peteweez, and quite a bit heavier too...
[09:34] <LjL> !grubrepair > Celeste
[09:34] <scrub18m> hello guys, i installed compiz but compiz start does not work. what could be wrong ?
[09:34] <peteweez> anon32: no kidding
[09:34] <ezerhoden> peteweez: just mount it again
[09:34] <mistform> anyone here know a program to sense CPU temps?
[09:34] <LjL> !compiz > scrub18m
[09:34] <ezerhoden> mistform: gkrellm
[09:34] <peteweez> ezerhoden: can't...it's ejected
[09:34] <mistform> I have i8kutils installed
[09:34] <mistform> but idfk how to use it....
[09:34] <Kenotic> I am have  problem with totem
[09:34] <Celeste> thasnk you anon32
[09:34] <Celeste> thank you LjL
[09:34] <Kenotic> all the colors look washed out
[09:34] <Kenotic> and the wites are to bright
[09:35] <mistform> ezerhoden, apt-get gkrellm?  how do I use it?
[09:35] <anon32> compiz made me do a hardware reset...
[09:35] <porkpie__> guy's whats the name of the package ee
[09:35] <ezerhoden> mistform: gkrellm2 i think launches it , then right click on it to configure
[09:35] <LjL> mistform: i believe you must also have the "lm-sensors" package installed to read sensor data. when you have it installed, you then need to run "sensors-detect" to configure it for your system's sensors.
[09:35] <jrib> porkpie__: ee ?
[09:35] <jrib> !info ee
[09:35] <ubotu> ee: An "easy editor" for novices and compuphobics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.2-5 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:35] <mistform> LjL, thank you
[09:35] <mistform> ezerhoden, I will try it out
[09:36] <mistform> gkrellm2 is 2mb.....
[09:36] <porkpie__> jrib:just tried sudo apt-get install ee but it couldn't find it
[09:36] <LjL> horrible
[09:36] <willys_fueguino> hi!! I need to talk with someone who design ubuntu logos in pv
[09:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell porkpie__ about universe
[09:37] <ezerhoden> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[09:37] <chowsapal> does anyone know which wpa_supplicant driver to use with wlan cards that work out of the box with dapper?
[09:37] <chowsapal> is that ndiswrapper?
[09:37] <ezerhoden> mistform: that command will do it
[09:37] <mistform> LjL, No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:37] <mistform> LjL, that's when I ran sensors-detect
[09:37] <LjL> mistform: try "sudo modprobe i2c-dev"
[09:37] <mistform> did I mention I am on a Dell Laptop?
[09:37] <{alejandro}> if I have a question about edgy, do I take t to ubuntu+1?
[09:37] <willys_fueguino> no one??
[09:37] <LjL> {alejandro}: yes
[09:37] <willys_fueguino> :-
[09:37] <{alejandro}> ok
[09:38] <snooplsm> I set up open ssh, using sudo apt-get install openssh*  but when i try doing ssh ryan@localhost it says port 22 isn't open...  Any help?
[09:38] <ezerhoden> mistform: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[09:38] <jrib> willys_fueguino: maybe #ubuntu-art
[09:38] <boricua> trying to update to edgy i am left with a very unstable system.  now i cant get into x and cant even sftp into to get error file to paste during boot eveything is ok with the exception of loading hardware drivers failed  and debian version shows test/unstable  instead of dapper or edgy
[09:38] <boricua> plse help
[09:38] <mistform> LjL, did the modprobe
[09:38] <LjL> !edgy > boricua
[09:38] <blackmamba23> i did install now the parser package
[09:38] <blackmamba23> now i get this
[09:38] <blackmamba23> You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build Gaim.
[09:38] <LjL> mistform: yeah, try sensors-detect again. also see what ezerhoden told you, you *should* be able to read the temperature from there with a modern system
[09:38] <willys_fueguino> jrib, thanx dud
[09:39] <jrib> blackmamba23: gaim is in the repositories
[09:39] <blackmamba23> i want the beta
[09:39] <mistform> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:39] <mistform> same thing
[09:39] <jrib> !gaim2
[09:39] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[09:39] <tritium> blackmamba23: the beta is in edgy
[09:39] <blackmamba23> coz msn doesnt work
[09:39] <{alejandro}> what is the terminal command for the gnome disk manager
[09:39] <mistform> even after modprobe
[09:39] <tritium> coz is not an English word
[09:39] <blackmamba23> how do i get msn? then?
[09:39] <anon32> blackgraz, do you have the edgy repos installed?
[09:39] <LjL> !gaim2 > blackmamba23
[09:39] <{alejandro}> the one that shows up in the menu as discs under system/administration
[09:40] <mistform> AHA
[09:40] <Zaggynl> so, what are the pro's and con's of edgy vs dapper?
[09:40] <SurfnKid> Zaggynl, good question
[09:40] <mistform> ezerhoden, it was THM/temperature, no THM0/temperature
[09:40] <{alejandro}> Zaggynl edgy is still a bit unstable
[09:40] <LjL> {alejandro}: perhaps gparted - not sure it's that one, i don't use gnome
[09:40] <exhale> just wait a week =)
[09:40] <mistform> thanks for the help, guys
[09:40] <{alejandro}> Ljl it isn't gparted
[09:40] <{alejandro}> it's like gnome-disks or something
[09:40] <Zaggynl> I heard edgy is faster
[09:41] <SurfnKid> i like dapper so far
[09:41] <LjL> !edgy > Zaggynl
[09:41] <SurfnKid> not changing it in a long time
[09:41] <Zaggynl> cheers
[09:41] <anon32> Zaggynl, possibly
[09:41] <exhale> !edgy
[09:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:41] <exhale> !schedule
[09:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:41] <tritium> Zaggynl: boot-up and shutdown certainly is faster
[09:41] <Zaggynl> I find ubuntu dapper slower then my windows xp though :( might have to do with the fact windows runs on my SATA hdd
[09:41] <mistform> 37C
[09:42] <islan> is there a way to keep the audio from going out of sync in streaming video with mplayer?
[09:42] <tritium> s/then/than
[09:42] <ezerhoden> islan: yes
[09:42] <SurfnKid> sure is slower, but then again its taken a lot of hard work :)
[09:42] <ezerhoden> islan: once sec
[09:42] <islan> ezerhoden, really?  wow, I was just shooting in the dark, thanks
[09:42] <anon32> I find dragging windows around slower in Dapper
[09:43] <ezerhoden> islan: - and Shift + keys
[09:43] <anon32> I also find the subpixel anti-aliasing buggy
[09:43] <ezerhoden> islan: man mplayer will show alot of cool stuff
[09:43] <islan> ezerhoden, k, thanks
[09:44] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[09:44] <Zaggynl> Not saying windowsxp is better then ubuntu dapper, just faster, but then again, I'm not as good at ubuntu dapper yet
[09:44] <ezerhoden> islan: bugged me till i dived into the man page one booring day
[09:44] <Zaggynl> is there some sort of services.msc in dapper? so I can change which services start at boot?
[09:44] <islan> ezerhoden, do I just click on the streaming video itself and hit those keys (don't want to get mixed up with firefox hot-keys just in case)
[09:44] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:45] <ljlolel> where is the flash 9 installation tutorial? preferably one with .deb's?
[09:45] <ezerhoden> islan: yes
[09:45] <gandolftheiwzar1> i have that
[09:45] <iwkse> hi all.. anybody using nfs?
[09:45] <jrib> !flash9
[09:45] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:45] <Baybed> What motherboard will guarantee me that ubuntu will work? Now I have an asus p4c800 and I get shitted over in the install
[09:45] <anon32> ljlolel, just download it and read the README
[09:45] <anon32> geez
[09:45] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib, i have that
[09:45] <islan> ezerhoden, groovey, didn't think the plugin would be helped by the man page
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> !language
[09:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <Bog> anyone here ever use the ubuntu server vmware image?
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, that's strange.  I doubt your mobo was the issue...
[09:45] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: what does it say?
[09:45] <ezerhoden> ahh, plug-in i dont know
[09:45] <ezerhoden> islan: ^^
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, I have an ASUS in my media box and it runs dapper drake fine
[09:46] <ezerhoden> islan: never tried it that way
[09:46] <ezerhoden> islan: let me know  if it works
[09:46] <islan> ezerhoden, oh, well, that's how I get my streaming video.  the audio is in sync from the beginning, but then the video starts going ahead of it
[09:47] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: says the same  thing
[09:47] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: the error I get is hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[09:47] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: I don't know what "same thing" is, can you copy and paste?
[09:47] <cryptonic> which version of gnome is in edgy?
[09:47] <davvs_> is ubuntu suse linux?
[09:47] <gandolftheiwzar1> same thing that i pastbin  when i was trying to install flash
[09:47] <amicrawle> how to i get my normal resalution back again
[09:47] <LjL> davvs_: no.
[09:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, have you set the master/slave settings on your drives correctly?
[09:47] <davvs_> ok :P
[09:48] <amicrawle> it is @ 640x480
[09:48] <Bog> whats installed with the vmware image?
[09:48] <iwkse> i'm having problems mount a nfs filesystem. when i try mount -t nfs host:/local /share it idle a lot of time till i get the prompt and after it when i ls /share i get "ls reading directory: input output error". Any hints?
[09:48] <amicrawle> will not go back eather
[09:48] <LjL> !ubuntu > davvs_
[09:48] <nylund> '
[09:48] <amicrawle> any help would be nice
[09:48] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: I have one HDD, and one CDROM, how should they be set?
[09:48] <islan> ezerhoden, oh, it's not mplayer, it's flash player 7, and flash doesn't seem to ever work very good on ubuntu
[09:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, to the SINGLE setting.  i fthose don't have a setting for those drives, set them to master
[09:49] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:49] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: here is the past bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27534/
[09:49] <ezerhoden> islan: hopefully flash 9 will be better
[09:49] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: HDD as primary IDE master, CDROM as secondary IDE Master?
[09:49] <cappe> I have edited my grub-config-file menu.lst (added FreeBSD lines) in there.. how do I save it? I have tried several times to use sudo grub-update but it will only delete the lines containing freebsd.. :S
[09:49] <FunnyLookinHat>  Baybed yes, but the jumper settings hva eto match
[09:50] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: be sure to run 'sudo apt-get update' beforehand
[09:50] <Baybed> brb
[09:50] <lukaswayne9> Can you boot into a command-line only ubuntu live disk?
[09:51] <ikus060> There is some one that already manage a LDAP server, I have some basic question about the main structure of the LDAP server and the LDAP - Application structure .. I already try the #ldap channel ..
[09:51] <ezerhoden> lukaswayne9: for what purpose?
[09:51] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: I'd like to boot into a command-line system on a windows box to backup all the files
[09:52] <lukaswayne9> it's sorta old, and the full live cd doesn't work too well
[09:52] <scompany> Hello people...
[09:52] <ezerhoden> lukaswayne9: systemrescuecd is a good cd to have for that
[09:52] <cappe> do I have to do anything at all after have added lines in the menu.lst or is it just to reboot and prey??
[09:52] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: i'll check it out
[09:52] <islan> has anyone else had problems with streamtuner's recorder since Dapper Drake release?
[09:53] <scompany> Can someone help me with
[09:53] <LjL> cappe: i usually reboot and pray.
[09:53] <tritium> cappe: only predators prey
[09:53] <scompany> adding persistant routes?
[09:53] <lupine_85> you mean static routes?
[09:53] <cappe> :D
[09:53] <scompany> yea...
[09:53] <lupine_85> ip route add
[09:54] <cappe> later guys hopefully in BSD-environment :)
[09:54] <lupine_85> e.g. ip route add default via <gateway> dev <interface>
[09:54] <scompany> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:54] <scompany> this need to be static
[09:54] <Astro73> I would I configure ubuntu server so that it runs an app when the power button is pressed (ACPI enabled)?
[09:55] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: I've also got an old laptop that I can't even install ubuntu-minimal on.  Is there a live disk I can run on that that's only command-line?  The only app I really require is telnet
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> are there any cli editors that use the standard gui text editor hotkey for things like undo, redo, selecting text holding the shift key & using the cursor & that sort of stuff?
[09:55] <lupine_85> ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/8 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev <interface>
[09:55] <lupine_85> and stick it in /etc/rc.local
[09:55] <anon32> lukaswayne9, try a different distro/
[09:55] <tritium> TheGateKeeper: none that I've heard of
[09:56] <anon32> perhaps DSL or slackware
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> anon32: right, i'm just asking for a suggestion
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> anon32: alright
[09:56] <JDahl> TheGateKeeper: jed is fairly intuitive
[09:56] <tritium> lukaswayne9: why can't you install?  Have you tried an alternate intsall (text-mode only) install image?
[09:56] <killown> I not found alsaconf  where I find it , I have alsa-base installed
[09:56] <tritium> intsall, rather
[09:56] <tritium> killown: it's not included
[09:56] <tritium> !sound
[09:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> tritium: yeah, I get a bunch of weird errors.  it's in low memory mode for sub 64mb systems
[09:56] <scompany> Do I stick it before of after exit 0
[09:57] <tritium> lukaswayne9: ouch
[09:57] <trappist> killown: you *could* apt-get source alsa-utils (or is it alsa-tools) and get it from there
[09:57] <killown> tritium but , I need to install driver to my card sound
[09:57] <IcemanV9> is Xen better than VMware player or server OR kemu?? Xen is not in repos?
[09:57] <islan> never heard of Xen
[09:57] <tritium> !xen
[09:57] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:57] <trappist> IcemanV9: it's not better or worse.  it's a different solution.
[09:58] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27541/
[09:58] <snooplsm> i don't know where I installed sun's java 1.5 is ther eanyway I can figure this out?
[09:58] <trappist> IcemanV9: whether it's better or worse for you depends a lot on what you have in mind
[09:58] <zach> !xen
[09:59] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: weird, i've never seen that
[09:59] <islan> is there a free linux 1.5 Java compiler yet?
[09:59] <killown> I cannot enter in my partition windows ntfs its say you cannot permission   what I do?
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either i have no clue whats going on
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> th
[09:59] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i use vmware and it is great, i recommend it, never tried the others
[09:59] <IcemanV9> read that Xen will give "close to native" performance. i assumed it may be better than kqemu or vmware.
[09:59] <tritium> !java > islan
[09:59] <LjL> islan, that matter is offtopic for this channel though... #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about that ;-)
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> this happened after i installed java 5
[09:59] <LjL> islan, gcj is a free java compiler, part of the GNU compiler project
[10:00] <gnomefreak> islan: sun-java5-plugins
[10:00] <snooplsm> gcj sucks
[10:00] <islan> google failed me the last time I tried to look for one
[10:00] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: idk, I hope someone else can help you out.  I'm not sure what that error means
[10:00] <gnomefreak> or jdk
[10:00] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: i use kqemu. it is not bad. i guess i am looking for a better performance.
[10:00] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i can run windows xp :( (sorry) with 396 megs ram assisned to it and it runs at native speed that i can tell
[10:00] <mjr> IcemanV9, the close to native performance is available for xen-aware operating systems (though xen can do unaware too with the new virtualizing processors from intel and amd)
[10:00] <bayzider> is ubuntu compatable with any portable dvd/dvd are burner?
[10:00] <snooplsm> so guys I don' tknow where I installed java compiler, any hints?
[10:00] <exhale> does anyone have any experience on getting the sidebuttons on the intellimouse optical to work in ubuntu? i tried the howto at the forum but it didnt work
[10:00] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: vmware player or server?
[10:01] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: server
[10:01] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: what are you trying to do
[10:01] <jelly> is there a mplayer build for 6.06?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> jelly: yes
[10:01] <islan> wait, the question is, is this 1.5 Java or 1.4?
[10:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell jelly about multiverse
[10:01] <anon32> jelly, yea..
[10:01] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either i am new to linux so i am clue less but i really need the plugin so i can get into my classes
[10:01] <jrib> jelly: just enable multiverse
[10:01] <IcemanV9> ok. thanks guys for the information on xen, vmware or kqemu. :)
[10:01] <killown> when I access my partition windows ntfs its say you cannot permission why?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> islan: the one i said is 5
[10:01] <islan> sweet
[10:01] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i use it everday and it is stable and fast
[10:01] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: well we can get you the plugin, but I don't know about that error you are getting with java
[10:02] <scompany> Thank you lupine_85.....
[10:02] <snooplsm> I can type javac and that works, how can I determine its link though?
[10:02] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either
[10:02] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: locate javac?
[10:02] <snooplsm> thanks
[10:02] <gandolftheiwzar1> yeah but if java is not working than i can't get into the virtual class so i am screwed either way i gues lol
[10:03] <killown> please
[10:03] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: i tried to install winxp via kqemu and it failed due to the hardware is not recongizied as hp laptop (even it IS hp)
[10:04] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: guess i will try vmware server to see if it works
[10:05] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i had the same issue with my ibm windows disks, there are ways around it, none legal that I know of though
[10:05] <gandolftheiwzar1> so what do i need to do to install the flas plug in
[10:05] <nn> I just hot-plugged a drive into my machine.. how do i rescan scsi devices?
[10:05] <gandolftheiwzar1> brb
[10:05] <nn> wanna add it to the LVM VG w/o rebooting, possible?
[10:05] <sevenood> hi all
[10:05] <nn> :(
[10:06] <gandolftheiwzar1> ok i am back
[10:07] <killown> please How I do to set permission for local users?
[10:07] <killown> please How I do to set permission for local users in ntfs partition?
[10:07] <jelly> jrib: thanks, dunno how I missed that.
[10:07] <gandolftheiwzar1> ok jirb: now what do i do
[10:07] <anon32> killown, by not repeating
[10:07] <gandolftheiwzar1> i went to the help page for ubuntu and i get the samethig that i got for java so i am kinda stuck i guess
[10:08] <LjL> !ntfs > killown
[10:09] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, what are you trying to achieve?
[10:09] <gandolftheiwzar1> i hope i don't have to reinstall everythin again
[10:09] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, this it not windows
[10:10] <gandolftheiwzar1> no kidding i know that
[10:10] <gandolftheiwzar1> but i am starting to like this linux
[10:10] <winsux> Hi there! anyone who know how to fix this TFTP err: Oct 20 21:57:06 multimedia atftpd[11430.-1210726736] : atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp
[10:10] <abyss> anyone can help me ive installed apache,php4,mysql-server but the apache cant read php files
[10:10] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, so what's the problem?
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> but i need the flash and java plug-ins for firefox so that i can get into my online classes
[10:11] <LjL> !lamp > abyss
[10:11] <abyss> if i open one the browser offers me to download the phpfile
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> gandolftheiwzar1, they are in multiverse
[10:11] <abyss> !lamp
[10:11] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:11] <bun-bun> !easyubuntu > gandolftheiwzar1
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27541/ go here and see the errors that i am getting
[10:11] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, are you using an amd64 version or "normal" pc?
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> i guess normal
[10:12] <killown> thanks all
[10:13] <fbc> How can I view wmv's?
[10:14] <gandolftheiwzar1> its what ever i got on the cd when i ordered it
[10:14] <bun-bun> !restricted formats >fbc
[10:14] <emmettshear> Hi! I'm trying to install the drivers for a USB camera (available at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/), but following the directions supplied I've hit a dead end. When I try to make the module, it tries "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/justintv/Desktop/pwc-10.0.11 modules" and then says ..../build doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[10:14] <nn> how do i hold back a package (lvm2) what breaks while upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[10:14] <gandolftheiwzar1> well i mean sent for it
[10:14] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, device 144 would be ADSL I guess. Are you using ADSL?
[10:14] <emmettshear> I've done apt-get install linux-source, but that doesn't seem to help
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> no
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> i just have an compaq presario 1278
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> laptop
[10:17] <chowsapal> i'm getting freq=0 when i try to use wpa_supplicant with this wireless card...
[10:17] <chowsapal> any idea how to fix that?
[10:19] <tiredbones__> My daughter is taken aa french class and has to listen to the pronunciation. what package should I install for this? I have creative hard ware.
[10:19] <nn> tiredbones__: What kind of format is it?
[10:19] <tiredbones__> nn, It looks likw wav
[10:19] <emmettshear> can anyone help me with the camera driver problem?
[10:20] <g333k_work> how can I see the list of users of my pc?
[10:20] <Gropi> tiredbones__,  rhythmbox or xmms?
[10:21] <Gropi> g333k_work, try "last" or "who"
[10:21] <Gropi> g333k_work, or do you mean all possible users?
[10:21] <nn> tiredbones__: audacity works well
[10:21] <nn> tiredbones__: even xmms
[10:21] <g333k_work> Gropi, yeah all existent users
[10:22] <tiredbones__> Gropi, of the two which one would you pick?
[10:22] <Gropi> g333k_work,  "cat /etc/passwd"
[10:22] <Gropi> tiredbones__, xmms is "easier" for me, getting used to rythmbox
[10:22] <RMorris84> does anyone else have a problem with flash 9 where any flash video or song just stops like 5 secs after it stops
[10:22] <tiredbones__> nn, it sounds like you would pick audacity.
[10:23] <Gropi> tiredbones__, if one is installed and the othes isn't use the one installed
[10:23] <nn> tiredbones__: Audacity is a sound editor, which more suites what i do, which is why i use it :)
[10:23] <tiredbones__> Gropi, nothing is insatalled yet.
[10:24] <nn> How to hold back a specific package when upgrading?
[10:24] <nn> Explode for lvm2 upgrade :\
[10:24] <Gropi> nn, wasn't there something like "pin" a package?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> !pinning
[10:25] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:25] <nn> Gropi: Im not sure, it's been a while, just need to tell apt to hold back lvm2 pkg until i reboot
[10:25] <gnomefreak> nn: ^^ see above
[10:25] <Gropi> !solvem<problem :-)
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about solvem<problem :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <fdoving> nn: echo packagename hold|dpkg --set-selections
[10:26] <nn> Ahh
[10:26] <nn> fdoving: Thanks
[10:27] <svinto> are there someone more than me who's got problems starting with the live CD under a radeon X850xt
[10:27] <fdoving> nn: that would need to be in a root-shell. (sudo -i)
[10:27] <svinto> when I search the net there seems to be lots of people having trouble with this
[10:28] <svinto> including me
[10:28] <nn> fdoving: Yea, i got that :)
[10:28] <svinto> :)
[10:28] <nn> fdoving: Had to install from a hoary disk, upgrade to breezy then dapper (using a server install) and now getting everything up-to-date and installing my stuff i want
[10:29] <gdh> ... just a straw poll - anyone with a low end Radeon card (X300/X600) tried the RC live cd?
[10:29] <utnubu>  what would cause ubuntu dapper drake to freeze up then after restarting it fails to setup xserver sockets and freezes when it trys to load boot scripts?
[10:29] <tiredbones__> Gropi,  I just read a small section on rhythmbox and it sound like my will have to save individuals wav file to here each word's pronunciation. Is this correct?
[10:30] <nn> I gotta reboot since linux is too stupid to support my SCSI hotswap :(
[10:30] <Gropi> tiredbones__, I thought you already have the wav files and want to replay them?
[10:31] <svinto> ate there any known conflicts between x850 xt and the amd 64?
[10:31] <svinto> in x
[10:31] <blackmamba23> how do i use effects in gnome?
[10:31] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word.
[10:31] <Gropi> tiredbones__, do you want to record the words first?
[10:31] <blackmamba23> like fade menu effects
[10:31] <blackmamba23> and shadows
[10:31] <anon32> gah, say, can someone explain what's different in the modified cdrecord (ubuntu version)?
[10:31] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word.
[10:31] <t0mz> hi
[10:32] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word. and then hear the pronunciation
[10:32] <Gropi> tiredbones__, it could be that you need to save them. Then it might be possible to tell your browser to download and play wav files automatically.
[10:33] <killown> I get error tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory When I try to compile  what I have to install?
[10:33] <killown> I yet installed tcl8-dev
[10:34] <anon32> can someone tell me what's been changed in the ubuntu version of cdrecord?
[10:34] <mart_> hi, how do i found out the address of my sound card
[10:35] <mart_> looks like /dev/dsp
[10:35] <mart_> i have an on board one, and an audigy 4
[10:35] <mart_> teamspeak seems to be just set on the in built one
[10:35] <blackmamba23> anyone????
[10:36] <Gropi> anon32, perhaps the DVD size limit is removed?
[10:37] <tristanmike> what's the command to "purge" when removing in apt-get "sudo apt-get remove package --purge"  or  "sudo apt-get remove --purge package" ?
[10:37] <anon32> hmm, I just know that it keeps crashing in DAO/SAO mode
[10:38] <ompaul> mart_, have you disabled the onboard one?
[10:38] <mart_> no
[10:38] <mart_> its kinda wierd
[10:38] <mart_> I cannot play a game and use teamspeak
[10:38] <ompaul> mart_, well let me suggest to you do to so
[10:38] <mart_> as teamspeak takes over the sound
[10:39] <mart_> right... how do i do that?
[10:39] <mart_> easy enough to tell me?
[10:39] <mart_> jst googling now
[10:39] <ompaul> mart_, in your bios - as the machine boots press F12 or F2 or delete as instructed - then you choose the onboard sound from whate3ver bios menu it is in and work from there
[10:40] <mart_> ahhh
[10:40] <mart_> :P
[10:40] <ompaul> mart_, it is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:40] <mart_> lol i was trying to think of a way in ubuntu :P
[10:40] <mart_> yep... should have thought of that
[10:40] <mart_> many thanks
[10:41] <killown> How I do to install tcl?
[10:41] <emmettshear> Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble installing a driver for my usb camera
[10:41] <emmettshear> can anyone help me with that?
[10:42] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:42] <Die> mike@mike:~$ makedvd -burn /tmp/Star_Trek_Season_1
[10:42] <Die> --------------------------------
[10:42] <Die> makedvd
[10:42] <Die> A script to create a DVD-Video file structure and burn it to DVD
[10:42] <Die> Part of the tovid suite, version 0.28
[10:42] <Die> with: core magick dvd vcd transcode
[10:42] <Die> http://www.tovid.org
[10:42] <Die> --------------------------------
[10:42] <Die> [10:42] <killown> tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory why?
[10:43] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:43] <ompaul> Die, multiple line outpuits should go in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:43] <MystaMax> hello, how are gdm themes installed?
[10:43] <emmettshear> specifically, it seems like it's looking in the wrong place for the kernel source when I tell it to do make, should I just point it at the unzipped version in /usr/src?
[10:44] <rockzman> ompaul my usb adapter is even loading wlan0 interface but i cant even set an essid on it why do i cant?
[10:44] <killown> please
[10:44] <killown> can anyone help me
[10:44] <ompaul> !AK
[10:44] <ompaul> !ask
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:44] <killown> tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory why?
[10:45] <killown> when I try to compile megahal return it
[10:45] <ompaul> killown, have you installing it using synaptic?
[10:45] <killown> ompaul nope
[10:46] <nn> so.. in ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12 supports my megaraid in my dell poweredge 2300, but 2.6.15 it breaks.. Hmm
[10:46] <ompaul> killown, that is the normal way to keep your machine in sync with the ubuntu patches and so on
[10:46] <killown> ok
[10:46] <nn> Ideas? :)
[10:47] <tiredbones__> Gropi, When I click on the word to hear the pronunciation of the word, I'm told that totem is not installed. Do I need this with rymthmbox?
[10:47] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:48] <holysmoke> greetings
[10:48] <Vaporlze> hello
[10:48] <mike> hey, i'm building c apps... i had to install build-essential to do that... what do i install to get the x libraries?
[10:48] <holysmoke> vaporize !
[10:49] <Vuen> hey guys, how come vi doesn't work in screen?
[10:49] <holysmoke> can anyone give me any help installing a 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 video card ? I'm in dapper
[10:49] <andy> how do you mount a network folder using 'smbfs'?
[10:49] <ompaul> nn, I have an 1800 running it (I have yet to tackle the 2300 (many more users)) but using stock kernels I installed "bum" and knocked off a few of the start up packages like powermanagment but the raid I left to the hardware
[10:50] <mike> is there a package i need to install to get the X11 libraries for c programming?
[10:50] <ompaul> !repeat > rockzman
[10:50] <nn> ompaul: It's working fine on my machine except for the new kernel gets weird device errors
[10:50] <Vaporlze> can someone help me? i am right know on ubuntu and wanna switch to xubuntu, but i just got 100MB left, and when i try to apt-get install xubuntu it says it needs, 230MB, so i was wondering, if i could go to a terminal, and first uninstall ubuntu, then install xubuntu...?
[10:50] <rockzman> ompaul my usb adapter is even loading wlan0 interface but i cant even set an essid on it why do i cant?
[10:50] <nn> i originally thought it was bad drives, as the entire machine was donated recently to my project
[10:51] <holysmoke> I guess my question is , what drivers does the geForce card use ?
[10:51] <ompaul> rockzman, why do you assume I know the answer to this? I don't do wireless at all
[10:51] <Vuen> hey guys, how come vi doesn't work in screen?
[10:51] <ompaul> Vaporlze, that might break more than it fixes
[10:52] <rockzman> ompaul ah ok i just wondered you would know by ur helpin work
[10:52] <rockzman> anyway thank you
[10:52] <scrub18m> how can i start gdm from command line ?
[10:52] <Vaporlze> oh...lol.....so what do u suggest? i wanna switch to xubuntu..
[10:52] <ompaul> rockzman, thems the breaks, unfortunately
[10:52] <Vuen> scrub18m: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:53] <ompaul> scrub18m, what Vuen said :)
[10:53] <Vaporlze> Vuen what do u mean with 'in screen?' have you tried gvim?
[10:53] <scrub18m> beryl ruined my dapper :/
[10:53] <Vuen> Vaporlze: screen is a software for windowing terminals
[10:53] <Vaporlze> oh...
[10:53] <ompaul> scrub18m, you need to go to #ubuntu-xgl that is not supported software
[10:54] <scrub18m> yeah but they are silent :(
[10:54] <JsonT_> people are telling me that I need something something "universe" to install some stuff, how to do?
[10:54] <ompaul> scrub18m, maybe you need to wait there, because in this channel we only do supported stuff
[10:54] <cablesm102> I just tried the Edgy RC Live disk, and it wouldn't recognize my D-Link (atheros) wi-fi card. Dapper recognized it immediately.
[10:54] <ompaul> !easysource > JsonT_
[10:55] <Vuen> cablesm102: that's wierd. try installing linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:55] <ompaul> JsonT_, please check the message from ubotu
[10:55] <mart_> thanks for the help on the soundcard, works now
[10:55] <cablesm102> it's installed
[10:55] <Vuen> cablesm102: hmm, that's really strange
[10:55] <mart_> only issue is i get a sh*t load of echo when i speak into the mic
[10:55] <cablesm102> Should I file a bug report maybe?
[10:55] <cablesm102> sorta late
[10:55] <mart_> anyone ever heard of that before?
[10:56] <ompaul> mart_, turn down the mic
[10:56] <mart_> tried that
[10:56] <cablesm102> mart, what it's doing is playing back whats in the mic.
[10:56] <tristanmike> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia hotfix right now, and I'm getting a "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" what does this mean ?
[10:56] <mart_> cablesm102: yes
[10:56] <mart_> but over and over
[10:56] <cablesm102> that's strange
[10:56] <mart_> when i turn the mic down its too low to pick up my voice
[10:56] <mart_> random
[10:56] <nn> mart_: try muting my mic in mixer
[10:57] <ompaul> mart_, got speakers?
[10:57] <nn> or if it shows a "monitor" channel
[10:57] <mart_> ompaul: yep
[10:57] <emmettshear> so, can anyone in here help me with my usb webcam driver? I have details if anyone can help...
[10:57] <ompaul> mart_, make sure they are turned off
[10:57] <mart_> no monitor channel
[10:57] <Outerlimit> !ext3
[10:57] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:57] <mart_> i need those on :P
[10:57] <anon32> !xfs
[10:58] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 180 kB
[10:58] <ompaul>  webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:58] <mart_> to hear what the other person says
[10:58] <ompaul> mart_, speaking echo usually originates at the far end
[10:59] <ompaul> !nickspam
[10:59] <ubotu> changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[10:59] <mart_> even covering the mic causes echo
[10:59] <emmettshear> ompaul: thanks a lot
[10:59] <Vaporlze> is there a way to switch from ubuntu to xubuntu without haveing to install my whole system?
[10:59] <DBO> /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit  <--- anyone seen a boot freeze on that (whole thing just freezes)
[10:59] <Killallhumans> hello
[10:59] <mart_> hmm, also its echoing with a delay.
[11:00] <Linuturk> I'm going to be installing a OEM system soon. Will all the configurations I do (wireless, FF bookmarks, and other settings) stick after I set the machine for the oem boot?
[11:00] <anon32> huh, is there a factoid for xfs (the file system)?
[11:00] <anon32> !fs
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Killallhumans> does anyone here know how to burn dual layer DVD with Tovid??
[11:00] <mart_> whistled down the mic, and it delays by about 10 seconds
[11:00] <ompaul> Vaporlze, you need more room and the disk
[11:00] <anon32> !XFS
[11:00] <anon32> gah..
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Linuturk> !oem
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:01] <Killallhumans> anyone?
[11:01] <ompaul> mart_, your lag is a quality of services issue nothing to do with ubuntu tbh
[11:01] <mart_> as in, the mic is crap?
[11:01] <Vaporlze> okay, i could remove some packages, but after i run xubuntu, can i remove ubuntu (gnome) and install the packages again, i removed ealier?
[11:02] <anon32> Vaporlze, ?
[11:02] <anon32> if you have xubuntu, you shouldn't have gnome installed at all
[11:02] <Killallhumans> NOBODY ??
[11:02] <Killallhumans> cmon...
[11:02] <Vaporlze> right now i am in ubuntu with gnome
[11:02] <Vaporlze> and i wanna switch to xubuntu
[11:02] <Killallhumans> how about making an ISo then?
[11:02] <Vaporlze> but i dont have enough disk space
[11:03] <tuxub> hello
[11:03] <Killallhumans> oi
[11:03] <segfault_> Vaporlze, just install xubuntu-desktop why remove anything?
[11:03] <ompaul> Vaporlze, get a bigger drive you can't get from where you are to where you want to get to without the room
[11:03] <tristanmike> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia hotfix right now, and I'm getting a "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" can anyone tell me what this means please ?
[11:03] <Killallhumans> tuxub, you know anything about dual layer burning?
[11:03] <Vaporlze> haha....but i'm on a laptop....
[11:03] <tuxub> nope, sorry
[11:03] <Killallhumans> ty anyway
[11:04] <Killallhumans> tristanmike...
[11:04] <GhostFreeman> !sshd
[11:04] <anon32> Vaporlze, oh, in that case, you can purge GNOME right after installing Xubuntu
[11:04] <ompaul> Killallhumans, I was ignoring you avoiding my mute - you are now annoying wait 10 if you get an answer fine if not - repat then
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <tRSS> I want to ssh a remote machine without entering a password. ihave to setup some ssh keys, right? how do I do that?
[11:04] <Killallhumans> it's asking you if you want to download the files you need from the NVIDIA website
[11:04] <Vaporlze> how do i purge GNOME?
[11:04] <anon32> Vaporlze, hunt down all the packages and remove em
[11:04] <[H] 3b0R> whats the best tool for clocking an nvidia graphics card?
[11:04] <Killallhumans> A simple NO would suffice......
[11:04] <atlef> !dvd9
[11:04] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: but should I have those files installed through ubuntu ?
[11:05] <Vaporlze> ok....so that's all starting with gnome-?
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Killallhumans> Ignoring me is unproductive
[11:05] <ompaul> Killallhumans, there couild be 800+ nos but we don't do that this is irc
[11:05] <anon32> Vaporlze, also, libgtk-etc
[11:05] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: and should I even download them at all ?
[11:05] <anon32> and a bunch of others
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> How do I start up sshd so I can allow a friend to check my system?
[11:05] <tuxub> i am trying to migrate my dapper to edgy via sudo update-manager -c -d but the update stops with the error: "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'". is this normal?
[11:05] <anon32> you need to read the dependency list for "ubuntu-desktop"
[11:06] <Vaporlze> alright.....i'm a noob...where do i find it?...:)
[11:06] <tuxub> anon32, read where?
[11:06] <ompaul> !noob
[11:06] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:06] <Killallhumans> 800+ nos
[11:06] <anon32> tuxub, not you
[11:06] <Killallhumans> ??
[11:06] <iks> Hey all :)
[11:06] <iks> I've got a quick question
[11:06] <anon32> what's jfgi?
[11:06] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550.
[11:07] <tuxub> anon32, you mentioned ubuntu-desktop, which is my error :)
[11:07] <ompaul> anon32,  just "find" and google it
[11:07] <anon32> tuxub, sorry
[11:07] <Linuturk> I've got a question about the OEM install. What settings will be saved when I prepare it for First Boot?
[11:07] <Linuturk> I'm going to be configuring the video drivers, the sound drivers, the network drivers
[11:07] <emmettshear> ompaul: EasyCam didn't work, unfortunately
[11:08] <anon32> ompaul, and what's wrong with that?
[11:08] <tuxub> has anyone used the update-manager to upgrade dapper to edgy?
[11:08] <emmettshear> but there are definitely drivers available (at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/)
[11:08] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: i don't really remember... what are th options?
[11:08] <ompaul> anon32, we give urls don't tell people to google it
[11:08] <Linuturk> will they be saved?
[11:08] <iks> I'd like to run an Apache Server. So I installed XAMPP. But part of the files' owner is iks (me) and part of its is nobody. In fact the Root's mine and the /phpmyadmin is nobody's. How can I make this work without running the server under root or changing all the file's owner ?
[11:08] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550. Any help??
[11:08] <ompaul> tuxub, I did on my lappy - go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy help please
[11:08] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: what do you mean ? Yes and No
[11:09] <anon32> ompaul, it'll save them time
[11:09] <tuxub> ompaul, thanks
[11:09] <Corporal_Dirge> For some reason, the default web browser changed without my changing it. It's Mozilla instead of Firefox.
[11:09] <Killallhumans> yes then.
[11:09] <ompaul> anon32, we don't do it - as the bot said .. period
[11:09] <anon32> wtf, the translation files for gnome take up less space then their download (according to synaptic)?
[11:09] <Killallhumans> I thought you were on the site already
[11:09] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I guess I'm saying that if ubuntu has a stock kernel interface thingy, shouldn't I use that one ?
[11:09] <ompaul> !lamp > iks
[11:09] <Flannel> Linuturk: they'll all be.
[11:09] <Killallhumans> NO
[11:10] <Killallhumans> it sucks
[11:10] <ompaul> iks, please reas the stuff from the bot
[11:10] <braddcadd2000> Anyone able to help get my svnclient working?
[11:10] <Killallhumans> you want the updated NVIDIA one
[11:10] <[H] 3b0R> whats the best tool for clocking an nvidia graphics card?
[11:10] <ompaul> Killallhumans, stop hitting enter after one or two words, please collect your thoughts and put them on one line thanks
[11:10] <Linuturk> Flannel, what about settings to FF, flash, and all that stuff?
[11:10] <nityann0> How can i get my motherboard drivers installed??
[11:10] <Flannel> Linuturk: actually, if you have user specific scripts, I'm not sure they'll be saved, actually.
[11:10] <nityann0> please help
[11:10] <Flannel> Linuturk: but, all the OEM thing does is make a new user, so everything you've installed etc will remain
[11:11] <anon32> !best
[11:11] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:11] <Linuturk> Flannel, yes, what about the configurations to the repositories? and, all the configs that go to the ~ dir will be lost?
[11:11] <inimesekene> how can i get themes for beryl
[11:11] <inimesekene> _
[11:11] <inimesekene> "
[11:11] <inimesekene> ?
[11:11] <Flannel> Linuturk: FF settings get stored in the users home directory by default, You'll want to change those to global configs if you want them for all the users
[11:11] <Killallhumans> Tristanmike: what did it do?
[11:11] <Flannel> Linuturk: sources.list is a global config, it won't be touched
[11:11] <nityann0> How can i get my mobo drivers installed?????
[11:11] <anon32> !spam
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Linuturk> Flannel, thanks
[11:11] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I'm sorry, what did what do ?
[11:11] <Flannel> inimesekene: try #beryl
[11:11] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550.
[11:12] <nityann0> how do i get mobo drivers???
[11:12] <rsk> you dont
[11:12] <Killallhumans> When the program asked you if you wanted to download the stuff from NVIDIA's site and you clicked "yes"... what dit it do?
[11:12] <liquidboy> what command can i put in the windowmaker menu to directly shut down the computer. iv'e tried the shutdown -h now option, but nothing happens...
[11:12] <rsk> halt?
[11:13] <narayana> how can i compile a module for another kernel?
[11:13] <Tampler> maybe sudo shutdown now -h
[11:13] <Tampler> now is before -h
[11:13] <Tampler> I think
[11:13] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: oh, I haven't done it yet, just gathering somemore info
[11:13] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: Look at your windowmaker menu file, I believe you can do "exec sudo shutdown -h now" or some such.
[11:13] <narayana> isn't shutdown -h now
[11:14] <ianmacgregor> Tampler: now is after the -h
[11:14] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: My bad, since windowmaker is gui, you'll probably need gksudo instead of sudo
[11:15] <liquidboy> yeah
[11:15] <Flannel> no, you won't.  Since you're running the shutdown command
[11:15] <cablesm102> I just tried the Edgy RC LiveCD. It isn't detecting my atheros wi-fi card. The Dapper disk did this right out of the box. Does anybody know how I can get this to work ?
[11:15] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: How will the user be able to put in a password?
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: It's from a menu item
[11:16] <liquidboy> ianmacgregor, i had that in my menu file
[11:16] <Flannel> Oh, you're making a menu item? yeah, you'll need to then
[11:16] <liquidboy> doesn't do anything :(
[11:16] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> cablesm102, pray?
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: :(
[11:16] <cablesm102> Thanks, I think
[11:16] <liquidboy> it will work from the terminal tho
[11:16] <liquidboy> and yep i tried gksudo
[11:16] <GhostFreeman> How would I setup an account so I could have a friend SSH into my system? Anybody know?
[11:16] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: you many need to find the specific FTP for the VNIDIA website. Then you can add it to the list and download the drivers you need with no problems.
[11:16] <braddcadd2000> svn error:  "svn: PROPFIND request failed"  (any help?)
[11:17] <gop> hey
[11:17] <abalcho> hello
[11:17] <gop> if I installing on a third physicall drive ubuntu linux
[11:17] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: make him a user on your box
[11:17] <gop> do i need to repartion my two other physical drivers
[11:17] <roshan_s> GhostFreeman: System > Administration > Users and Groups should do the trick
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> did that, but he can't log in
[11:17] <abalcho> uffff you only speak english in this channel
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> got openssh-server installed but he's getting timeout errors
[11:18] <t0mz> hey, somebody know how to clone a disk that runs UNIX?
[11:18] <gop> I got a 120 gig and 80 gig which I am using 120 gig has windows 80 gig extra storage and I just have a 60 gig laying around
[11:18] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I've stoped gdm and I'm working strickly from command line
[11:18] <tristanmike> lupine_85: are you available for a second ?
[11:18] <ChaosFan> abalcho: there are extra channels for nearly any other language
[11:18] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: You might be interested in partimage
[11:18] <Killallhumans> does anyone other than ompaul know anything about burning dual layer DVD's with TOVID?
[11:18] <joona> GhostFreeman: then he's not using ssh or you are behind firewall
[11:18] <gop> if I install ubuntu on the 60 gig drive
[11:18] <abalcho> thank  you chaos
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> yeah I am behind a firewall, guess its all on my own now
[11:19] <gop> do I need to touch the other two
[11:19] <exhale-> is flash supported for x64?
[11:19] <gop> drivers
[11:19] <gop> hard disk
[11:19] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: i dont know, but i need to clone a disk running unix, partimage is booteable?
[11:19] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: or you don't have a ssh server installed
[11:19] <anon32> exhale-, no
[11:19] <morghanphoenix> how do I fix and external drive that's mounting as read only even though it's in mount as rw?
[11:19] <joona> he just said he has :)
[11:19] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: Lemme get you a link, hold on..
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> I installed it, I just think I need to open a port on my firewall
[11:19] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: I don't quite remember the command lines but here is a good site that will tell you all about it...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[11:19] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: thanxs
[11:19] <joona> GhostFreeman: which firewall?
[11:20] <joona> are you just running plain iptables?
[11:20] <joona> or are you behind NAT of some sort?
[11:20] <lupine_85> tristanmike: more or less, yes
[11:20] <lupine_85> 'sup?
[11:20] <Killallhumans> Tristanmike: OOPS sorry wrong one.... hold on.
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> Router based, D-Link DI-524
[11:20] <joona> ok, you can route ports from D-links setup
[11:20] <qwe1> Hi all, I am looking for a Programm like Smart Draw under Windows. So far I found Kivio. It is nice, but I need more Symbols (folders, files, ...). Can you help me?
[11:20] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:21] <joona> GhostFreeman: you'll need to forward port 22 to your internal network ip from D-link
[11:21] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: I use this livecd, it has lots of great tools on it, including partimage. I recommend it to anyone: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=systemrescue
[11:21] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: what are you trying to do when you get that error?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:21] <tristanmike> I'm finally getting to installing that update and it's saying "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" what do you think I should do ?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> I can find my system's IP from ifconfig, right?
[11:21] <joona> yeah
[11:21] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ^^^^^
[11:21] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: ok, let me try, 10x a lot
[11:21] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: are you on a LAN?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> yes
[11:22] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: This website has almost everything you need to know about basic UBUNTU stuff
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> A lan of one computer.
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: You're welcome :)
[11:22] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: trying to connect to the svn server
[11:22] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: are you behind a router
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> yes
[11:22] <joona> Flannel: already sorted that out
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: MEPIS also has partimage, if you have a copy of that.
[11:22] <joona> GhostFreeman: just forward the port :)
[11:23] <joona> GhostFreeman: that's the solution, and only choice
[11:23] <braddcadd2000> Flannel:  svn checkout https://mysvnserver/bla/bla
[11:23] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: then your IP won't be on ifconfig, that'll be your subnet's IP, you'll need your external/routers IP
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> ah
[11:23] <lupine_85> tristanmike: you need to compile one - it's easy
[11:23] <joona> GhostFreeman: he's right, but you'll need to forward that port first
[11:23] <tristanmike> lupine_85: oh crap
[11:23] <lupine_85> the installer does all the hard work for you, you just need the build-essential package installed and the appropriate linux-headers
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> I am aware, i've done this before on a local network with a laptop
[11:24] <lupine_85> so... sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:24] <lupine_85> then re-run the installer
[11:24] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok, so I should just download it? cause I have build-essential and the headers, (which we did earlier)
[11:24] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: Ca I pm you?
[11:24] <tristanmike> lupine_85: or just say "NO" ?
[11:25] <theCore> *shameless announcement* I am giving a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia, and everyone is invited. So, come in to prove how mucho puissante your brain's cells are. :) *end of the shameless announcement*
[11:25] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: you can get your external IP at ... well,lots of places, one is "whatismyip.com"
[11:25] <eXistenZ> any better .chm viewer than xchm?
[11:25] <tristanmike> lupine_85: and let the installer do it, is that what you mean ?
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> yeah I got it here
[11:25] <lupine_85> tristanmike: there are none suitable on the nvidia website
[11:25] <lupine_85> you can let it search or not... it doesn't matter
[11:25] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:25] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: and does https://mysvnserver/bla/bla come up with the correct file/etc?
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> Can I have someone who uses the WindowMaker wm pm me please?
[11:26] <GhostFreeman> once I have it, what should I do next
[11:26] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <theCore> hello rob!
[11:26] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <tristanmike> lupine_85: right, so just say no to that question and see if the installer does the work for me ? or should I run the updated file with an option
[11:26] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: #windowmaker might be of some assistance
[11:26] <rob> theCore: please don't do that
[11:26] <lupine_85> tristanmike: I always let it search, because I dn't like saying no :)
[11:26] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: Ah, yeah, I was hoping to speak with an Ubuntu user who installed wm from the repos
[11:27] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: well, the wm from the repos will be identical to the stock wm, since it's in universe
[11:27] <tristanmike> lupine_85: what is this "precompiled kernel interface" ?
[11:27] <theCore> okay, sorry rob
[11:27] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: Oh? Ok, didn't know that. Thanks for the help :)
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> Flannel: I got my IP. What now?
[11:27] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: no I can't see the files, although it does ask me login, and I know I am logging in correctly :)
[11:27] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: he'll connect via your external IP, which will be forwarded to your computer by the router
[11:27] <lupine_85> tristanmike: a kernel module
[11:27] <darkaura> Hi guys I have a problem with games not scaling to full screen I have a GeForce Go 6800 Ultra any suggestinos?
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:27] <lupine_85> if it can't find one, it'll build one for you
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> we tried this a while back, and it still didn't work for him
[11:27] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok
[11:27] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: then chances are that file doesn't exist.  You've installed svn correctly and webdav and stuff?
[11:28] <pozdiy> my printers are 'networked unix LPD' - I configured them through Gnome 'printing' menu, but the Acrobat Reader does not see them, it needs something like '/usr/bin/lp' - how to get it to work with my network printers?
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> he says that his port 25 is closed on my end, yet my ssh port is 22
[11:28] <rawrness>  http://rj.selfip.com/pirate.swf
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> should I open 25?
[11:28] <andy> is there anyway to put a trash icon on your desktop?
[11:29] <Tampler> yes with gconf-editor i think
[11:29] <rawrness> why would you want one?
[11:29] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: The server must be setup correctly.  I can see the files from a webview.  The server was setup at odesk.com
[11:29] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: all stuff in universe is not modified by ubuntu to integrate with ubuntu like the stuff in main. (it still might be slightly different, or come with different configuration, but basically theyre identical)
[11:29] <andy> cause
[11:29] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: why is he trying to connect at port 25?
[11:29] <GhostFreeman> I don't know
[11:29] <tristanmike> lupine_85: should I have the installer automatically update my X config file ?
[11:29] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: Should I be asking to checkout a file or an entire directory?
[11:29] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: I see. I learn something new each day :)
[11:29] <GhostFreeman> he says he nmapped me and 22 is closed on my end
[11:29] <lupine_85> if the driver already reads nvidia, then no
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: how do I know, should I open it now to check ? and that's xorg.conf ?
[11:30] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: but you forwarded it with your router right? and netstat -a mentions it with sshd?
[11:30] <lupine_85> were you using nvidia drivers before?
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: yeah, but I uninstalled all that stuff
[11:30] <lupine_85> i.e. did you get the nvidia splash screen?
[11:30] <rambo3> problem with php , echo phpinfo reports php4 , i have both 5 and 4 installed but would prefer php5
[11:30] <lupine_85> if so, it should still read nvidia
[11:30] <darkaura> no got the nvidia drivers when I installed
[11:30] <lupine_85> so say no
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: and yes to the splash screin, Ok,
[11:31] <darkaura> but I use nvidia drivers now
[11:31] <lupine_85> worst case scenario is you edit the file manually, which is trivial
[11:31] <GhostFreeman> i'm running through netstat -a so we'll see what happens
[11:31] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: netstat -lnt |grep 22 :D
[11:32] <GhostFreeman> I get this tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[11:32] <lupine_85> so it's only running on TCP version 6
[11:32] <lupine_85> erm, IP
[11:32] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: you check out directories
[11:32] <lupine_85> change /etc/ssh/sshd_config (IIRC) - add anther Listen directive specifying the IPv4 address
[11:33] <GhostFreeman> what's the text for another listen directive?
[11:33] <lupine_85> ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS> should do it
[11:34] <tristanmike> lupine_85: after the installation I did that command "rmmod nvidia" and "modprobe nvidia" and I get "Error: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules"
[11:34] <GhostFreeman> <IP_ADDRESS> or my machine's IP?
[11:34] <haploid_> I have a problem with cupsys - after a remove / install cycle of cupsys, there's no /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[11:34] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: Are there log files for the errors?  Anyway to know what really went wrong?
[11:34] <andy> hi, how do I get k3b working with MP3s?
[11:34] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: either - <IP_ADDRESS> means "all IPv4 addresses"
[11:34] <lupine_85> tristanmike: try running sudo depmod -a
[11:34] <lupine_85> then modprobe again
[11:35] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, maybe a reboot
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> and to reload the file?
[11:35] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok
[11:35] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[11:36] <tristanmike> lupine_85: reboot it is..... wish me luck
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> I don't have sshd but I have ssh, reload it?
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> andy: libk3b2-mp3
[11:38] <Corporal_Dirge> I've noticed that Firefox on Ubuntu is slower than Firefox in Windows. Is there something I can tweak to make it faster?
[11:38] <ddly> I was wondering, if there is any powerpoint alternative for Ubuntu other than openoffice presentation, that is lightweighted and fast ?
[11:38] <GhostFreeman> ok, he's still not able to connect, it keeps timing out
[11:38] <GhostFreeman> what now?
[11:39] <rsk> Corporal_Dirge, Contribute with code or money, known issue.
[11:39] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: yep
[11:39] <lupine_85> firewall?
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> its open
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> port 22
[11:39] <lupine_85> Corporal_Dirge: fasterfox ?
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> its probably a POS one at that
[11:39] <lupine_85> if it's open on your side and he can't connect, it's something in between
[11:40] <lupine_85> !info fasterfozx
[11:40] <ubotu> Package fasterfozx does not exist in any distro I know
[11:40] <lupine_85> !info fasterfox
[11:40] <ubotu> Package fasterfox does not exist in any distro I know
[11:40] <lupine_85> hmm
[11:40] <kitche> never heard of fasterfox before unless you mean swift fox
[11:41] <Axord> Does MOOX make lin builds of FF?
[11:41] <rawrness> fasterfox is a firefox add-on
[11:41] <kbrooks> hi all. i have a problem
[11:42] <kbrooks> i upgraded to edgy, and i get an error
[11:42] <unforgiving> we all have a problem
[11:42] <tristanmike> lupine_85: everything seems to be working fine, thank you very much for your help. :D
[11:42] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:42] <rossignoli> exit
[11:42] <rawrness> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1269/.
[11:42] <kbrooks> gdm cant start the graphics
[11:42] <tristanmike> lupine_85: should I reinstall those lrm's again ?
[11:42] <Flannel> kbrooks: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[11:42] <kbrooks> Flannel: no, edgy is out
[11:42] <Flannel> kbrooks: no it's not
[11:42] <kbrooks> o rly?
[11:42] <ddly> kbrooks, on 26th october it will be.
[11:43] <Flannel> kbrooks: RC1 is out, not the final
[11:43] <rsk> if you call release candidate "out" then sure.
[11:43] <Corporal_Dirge> ya rly
[11:43] <Max_-> what about using ubuntu on a webserver?  would I be better with debian or something else?..
[11:43] <lupine_85> tristanmike: no
[11:43] <rsk> Max_- there is ubuntu server you know..
[11:43] <lupine_85> if you've used the installer, don't install l-r-m - you get all sorts of weirdness
[11:43] <Max_-> rsk, didn't know!
[11:43] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: partimage is for clone partitions... i need to clone a entire disk with 2 partitions, 0:AIX 1:FAT16.. another option?
[11:43] <ChaosFan> Max_-: i personally would use debian on a server, but - as it usually is in the linux world - it's a matter of personal taste ;)
[11:44] <lupine_85> if you need it in the future (once 8776 comes out in a security release, maybe) then run the installer with the --uninstall option before installing lrm
[11:44] <Corporal_Dirge> XChat switched to using Mozilla as default browser.. odd.
[11:44] <kitche> t0mz: use dd
[11:44] <Max_-> ChaosFan, the main thing.. as I'm getting used to ubuntu... is security.. if there's nothing to worry about more with ubuntu than debian.. I'll keep with it
[11:44] <Flannel> Corporal_Dirge: it uses sensible-browser, you'll want to reconfigure that
[11:44] <kitche> tomz: man dd if you want to learn more about it
[11:45] <t0mz> ok
[11:45] <t0mz> let me try...
[11:45] <crochat> Anybody has problems with the flash plugin ? Actually, on my computers (one with Dapper and the other with Edgy) both have big problems when reaching a flash Web site... that "kills" firefox :-(
[11:45] <ChaosFan> Max_-: OpenBSD stresses security a lot... but you can get ubuntu equally secure ;)
[11:45] <kitche> crochat: it's a problem with firefox
[11:46] <ChaosFan> Max_-: they do "proactive security", meaning "if i close every service noone can come in"
[11:46] <crochat> kitche: Why does it appears in 1.5 and 2.0 branches ?
[11:46] <Flannel> ChaosFan: ubuntu listens to nothing by default
[11:46] <Corporal_Dirge> Flannel, It _was_ Firefox. It changed to Mozilla on it's own.
[11:46] <ChaosFan> Flannel: not even ssh?
[11:46] <Flannel> ChaosFan: right, ssh isn't even installed
[11:47] <ChaosFan> never did a default install...
[11:47] <kitche> crochat: it's how Firefox is made but I had flash working on <IP_ADDRESS> once and it stopped working think it has to do with how flash hooks in
[11:47] <Flannel> Corporal_Dirge: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:48] <sandrinah> hi
[11:48] <sandrinah> Woud you know some link to documentation about how to generate new pdiff/DiffIndex into debian repos?
[11:49] <sandrinah> I maintain a Debian repo, and i am interested in introducing new diff feature....
[11:50] <crochat> kitche: http://www.brainonfire.net/2006/05/25/firefox-crash-on-flash-content-in-ubuntu/
[11:50] <kitche> crochat: it just doesn't deal with ubuntu
[11:54] <anon32> when edgy goes final, will I be able to upgrade automatically, or will I need to add repositories?
[11:54] <anon32> !schedule
[11:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <kbrooks> antoninus: alt+f2 -> gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[11:55] <anon32> !edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:56] <anon32> um... so how do I add edgy repositories? do I just go into sources.list and change all mentions of dapper to edgy?
[11:56] <anon32> !repos
[11:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:57] <gnomefreak> anon32: that is a question for #ubuntu
[11:57] <gnomefreak> +1
[11:57] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <ubutom> I did what kbrooks said.... it changes the repositories...
[11:57] <jtf0518> anyone out there running lm-sensors on an recent model Intel motherboard that has fan control working?
[11:57] <ubutom> ^ anon32
[11:57] <anon32> hmm
[11:58] <agent> anon32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[11:59] <AdamMK> how do i change the splash image for just one user? i've figured out that changing /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml changes the  splash for all users, but i need to change it for one user.
[12:00] <t0mz> kitche:
[12:00] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey. I've just installed Kubuntu on a computer, and one of my first setup steps is getting internet. The box has a wireless WG311v2 adapter, so I'm using NdisWrapper, but something seems to be blocking communication to the device.


[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #211101 in launchpad "Indirect beta tester can't test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211101
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #211117 in launchpad "Tooltips on sections don't always show" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211117
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #211129 in launchpad "As a betatester I don't get redirected to edge from launchpad subdomains" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211129
[05:31] <YokoZar> Livejournal is giving me this error with OpenID: No claimed id: no_identity_server: The provided URL doesn't declare its OpenID identity server.
[05:33] <YokoZar> And despite being in the beta tester team I don't see an OpenID login: field on my profile page
[05:34] <Fujitsu> YokoZar: Known bug. Disable edge redirection, and view the page on production.
[05:34] <Fujitsu> It should be fixed on edge in about 25 minutes.
[05:34] <YokoZar> ahh ok
[06:59] <jkakar> Are there problems with PPAs?  I started builds ~8h ago and they're all still pending.
[07:00] <stdin> hmm, the i386 ones do seem to have died. 308 waiting and all say "IDLE (Auto)"
[07:01] <Fujitsu> Nothing i386 has built in several hours.
[07:21] <adedov> join #storm
[08:12] <mantiena-baltix> hi all
[08:13] <mantiena-baltix> Maybe someone knows why I don't get i386 builds in launchpad PPA ?
[08:18] <Fujitsu> mantiena-baltix: Others seem to be having similar problems.
[08:18] <Fujitsu> cprov: ^^
[08:19] <cprov> Fujitsu: i386 are not building anything ?
[08:19] <Fujitsu> cprov: i386 PPA builders appear to be not doing much.
[08:19] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: it seems i386 builder is sleeping (IDLE)
[08:20] <Fujitsu> They hadn't built anything in several hours, last time I looked.
[08:20] <mantiena-baltix> maybe now it's a holiday for i386 builder ? ;)
[08:21] <jmehdi> yesterday I requested the merge of two teams: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume-googlegroups with https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team (the later is the good one) but I didn't receive any email. I think there is a problem because the email used for the first team is a google group mailing list email address. What can I do now?
[08:22] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: they've all failed to build https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/553373
[08:23] <Fujitsu> cprov: There are some 311 builds in the i386 PPA queue.
[08:23] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: not all, look for example at https://edge.launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/553405
[08:23] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: this was queued 9 hours ago
[08:25] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: as I said, alll builders ended up in builder-failure state trying to build the job I mentioned.
[08:25] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: I will have to investigate what is exactly wrong in builders or in the job.
[08:26] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: hehe, but amd64 amd lpia builders didn't stopped after trying to build my openoffice backport ;)
[08:27] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: there is a lot of difference between i386 and other archs build. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for this.
[08:27] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: :)
[08:31] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: have you looked at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13078663/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_NEEDSBUILD.txt.gz ?
[08:32] <mantiena-baltix> I see strange line at the end:
[08:32] <mantiena-baltix> /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/sbuild-package: line 34:  1386 Segmentation fault      LANG=C LC_ALL=C $SBUILD "$@"
[08:33] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: yes, never seem it before.
[08:34] <cprov> seen ...
[08:37] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: amd64 and lpia builders don't have "Segmentation fault" in that build
[08:40] <sixty6murph> hi, does anyone know anything about initd.org being down?
[08:41] <sixty6murph> or how to get psycopg or if there's an appropriate channel?
[08:54] <luisbg_> I have a project under my user and I want to move it to a group since more people are going to chim in, whats the best way to do so?
[08:58] <thumper> luisbg_: change the registrant of the project to a team
[08:59] <luisbg_> thumper, ohhh nice
[08:59] <luisbg_> thanks
[09:00] <luisbg_> where do I do that?
[09:00] <luisbg_> maintainer?
[09:00] <Fujitsu> Maintainer/owner/registrant are all the same.
[09:01] <Fujitsu> Three different terms for the one thing.
[09:01] <thumper> Fujitsu: well, not quite
[09:02] <thumper> Fujitsu: some places have registrant for the person that registered it, and owner for the person/team currently responsible for it
[09:02] <Fujitsu> thumper: I was referring to those fields as applied to projects, sorry.
[09:03] <thumper> Fujitsu: ok, np
[09:03] <Fujitsu> I believe I saw a bug recently about making the project registrant actually being the person who registered it!
[09:04]  * thumper nods
[09:29] <carlos> morning
[09:30] <mantiena-baltix> morning carlos
[09:43] <\sh> moins
[09:43] <luisbg_> thanks Fujitsu and thumper :)
[09:46] <\sh> guys...can someone explain this openid thingy now? are we able to login to openid enabled sides with our lp id, or is lp just taking other openid regsitrar accounts to login?
[09:46] <Fujitsu> \sh: The former.
[09:46] <Fujitsu> \sh: You can see your OpenID URL on your LP person page, and OpenPGP keys.
[09:47] <\sh> Fujitsu, so we can use our lp id to login to other openid enabled sites
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[09:47] <\sh> nice
[09:47] <\sh> so I can start to enable my drupal installation to use openid ;)
[09:47] <Fujitsu> The OpenID URLs couldn't possibly get any uglier, but it's something.
[09:49] <\sh> Fujitsu, where do you see the openid url? I don't see it on my personal lp page
[09:50] <Fujitsu> \sh: You're in the Launchpad beta team?
[09:50] <\sh> Fujitsu, I'm using edge...so I should be
[09:50] <\sh> yes..I am
[09:51] <Fujitsu> \sh: OK, disable the edge redirection (at https://launchpad.net/)
[09:51] <Fujitsu> I thought that was meant to be fixed on edge by now.
[09:51] <Fujitsu> But it'll be on your person page on production.
[09:51] <\sh> ah now
[09:52] <Fujitsu> What use is LP OpenID if the URLs are random, and others can't see your OpenID URL?
[09:52] <Fujitsu> Is everyone meant to use delegation?
[09:53] <\sh> i don't think so
[09:53] <\sh> it looks just like a more pretty imho
[09:55] <Fujitsu> Just like a more pretty? -EPARSE
[09:57] <\sh> rephrase: it looks like, that the delegation method is a nicer representation of your openid id
[09:57] <Fujitsu> Right, that's part of the point.
[09:58] <Fujitsu> But what use is an OpenID if it can't be linked back to a known person? LP provides no apparent mechanism to look up the OpenID/user mapping.
[10:01] <luisbg_> now the project is maintained by a team
[10:01] <luisbg_> but the bzr branch is in my user
[10:01] <Fujitsu> luisbg_: Change the registrant of the branch.
[10:02] <Fujitsu> Note that that will also change the URL.
[10:02] <luisbg_> Fujitsu, let me look for it
[10:02] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: hi, are you launchpad developer ?
[10:02] <luisbg_> that makes sense
[10:02] <mpt> mantiena-baltix, yes
[10:03] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: I've noticed your bug #80309 - this is very important for other distros, which uses launchpad as main bug tracking system, look at last comment
[10:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 80309 in launchpad "Don't claim that non-LP distributions have no releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80309
[10:03] <luisbg_> Fujitsu, awesome! thanks
[10:04] <\sh> ok...drupal + lp openid provider doesn't work
[10:05] <\sh> for account creation that is
[10:05] <\sh> but it looks mostly like a bug in drupal
[10:05] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: 2 or 3 years ago, at the start of launchpad, we (Baltix distro team) was able to use at least milestones, but after few months someone disabled this feature :(
[10:06] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: so, we can't manage in normal way bugs for about 2 years :(
[10:06] <mpt> mantiena-baltix, unfortunately I probably won't have time to do anything about that
[10:06] <mpt> salgado might be more helpful, when he's around
[10:06] <mpt> in a few hours
[10:07] <mpt> mantiena-baltix, actually, your comment in that bug report is a separate issue
[10:08] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: I know, but this is very important
[10:08] <mpt> My report is strictly about the false message, not about letting distributions actually register releases
[10:08] <mpt> Maybe there's another bug report about the latter problem
[10:08] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: AFAIK there are bugreport about releases/milestones registration problems bug I can't find that :(
[10:12] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: I which project I should search ? Soyuz or launchpad itself ?
[10:13] <mpt> I'm not sure :-(
[10:13] <mpt> but I'm searching over both, and I don't see it
[10:14] <mpt> Ah, I see you've found bug 58250
[10:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 58250 in launchpad "Unofficial distribution releases should not be allowed to use milestones" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58250
[10:14] <mpt> all right, time to report a new bug
[10:16] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: yes, I found bug 58250 but this bug is not clear for me - why other distros should be allowed to use milestones, while ubuntu distro is allowed ?
[10:17] <mpt> Well, the idea is that every distribution milestone should be tied to a series (which is our term for a major version, e.g. the Dapper series = Ubuntu 6.06 + 6.06.1 + 6.06.2)
[10:17] <mpt> If distributions can register milestones but not series, then that model is broken
[10:18] <mpt> So 58250 is about one way of fixing that, I think
[10:18] <mpt> with the other way being to let distributions actually register series :-)
[10:18] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: so, you should to allow to register series :)
[10:18] <mpt> yeah
[10:18] <mantiena-baltix> or releases
[10:20]  * mpt waits for the bug-reporting page to load
[10:24] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: so, should I report new bug about the other way being to let distributions actually register series ?
[10:25] <mpt> mantiena-baltix, I just have
[10:28] <mantiena-baltix> mpt: thank you very much
[10:29] <mpt> (bug 211223)
[10:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223
[10:31] <Fujitsu> In blueprint?
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #211223 in blueprint "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223
[10:32] <intellectronica> mpt: why did you file that bug on blueprint?
[10:32] <intellectronica> mpt: to be clearer with the emphasis - why on blueprint, rather than launchpad in general?
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #211228 in blueprint "set branding 15x15 not present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211228
[10:43] <Fujitsu> Isn't that deliberate?
[10:43] <Fujitsu> So only teams can have emblems?
[10:44] <mpt> whoa
[10:44] <mpt> intellectronica, I totally didn't notice that
[10:44] <mpt> I guess it must have been the first option in the menu
[10:45] <intellectronica> mpt: that's brings up an interesting misfeature. perhaps we should have a way to set the default product for a project explicitly. right now i guess blueprint comes up simply because it's first in alphabetical order
[10:47] <mpt> intellectronica, except in the case of Launchpad itself, it might not make much sense for a project group to have a "Report a bug" button in the first place
[10:48] <intellectronica> mpt: i'm not sure i agree. it's just a shortcut. i can imagine it would be annoying if you are viewing the page for a project group and then have to go to a different page to report a bug.
[10:49] <mpt> well
[10:49] <mpt> let's say we prevent my mistake by doing what Bugzilla does
[10:49] <mpt> and giving you a list of projects to choose from, before you get to the bug-reporting form
[10:50] <mpt> Would that be any different, in number of clicks or page loads, than requiring you to navigate to the project page before clicking "Report a bug"?
[10:51] <mpt> hmm, I suppose it would be one more, because we currently don't link to project-specific Bugs pages from the project group Bugs page
[10:51] <mpt> though probably we should do that :-)
[10:53] <mpt> and perhaps there's a better way of fixing the misfeature anyway
[10:54] <mpt> but I'm too tired to think of it right now, and I need to go pack
[10:56] <intellectronica> mpt: are you coming back to the UK?
[10:56] <mpt> yep
[10:57] <BUGabundo> why do I have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account?
[10:57] <intellectronica> mpt: excellent, i'll see you here, then
[10:57] <mpt> ok :-)
[10:57] <BUGabundo> is joey here? I want to discuss a few things about OpenID
[10:57] <mpt> BUGabundo, he's Rinchen, and not yet
[10:58] <BUGabundo> thanks mpt
[10:58]  * mpt -> other side of the world
[10:58] <BUGabundo> 11 am here
[10:58] <BUGabundo> already hungry
[10:58] <BUGabundo> up since 7am
[10:58] <BUGabundo> grrr
[10:58] <BUGabundo> not that polite to leave during chat
[10:58] <BUGabundo> so
[10:58] <BUGabundo> can anybody explain to me why do I have to Names on LP?
[10:59] <BUGabundo> intellectronica maybe? kiko-zzz?
[10:59] <Fujitsu> BUGabundo: bugabundo, or BUGabundo?
[10:59] <BUGabundo> nops
[11:00] <Fujitsu> Ah, I see.
[11:00] <BUGabundo> I have one Name on help.LP.net (BUGabundo) and another on LP.net (Fernando Pereira) for the same account, Fujitsu
[11:00] <intellectronica> BUGabundo: the name on the help wiki is just a feature of the wiki. you identity is still linked to you LP identity
[11:00] <BUGabundo> I know
[11:00] <BUGabundo> but it is strange to see another name
[11:01] <BUGabundo> I was forced to set a "Real Name" because being part of LP Beta
[11:01] <intellectronica> BUGabundo: well, maybe one day we'll have tighter integration between the wiki and the rest of LP. until then you're welcome to change your name on the wiki :)
[11:01] <BUGabundo> BUGabundo is my nickname and what I use to identify myself on the web
[11:01] <BUGabundo> ok
[11:05] <cprov> PPA i386 builders are *still* building lang-packs for the whole family ... nice, huh ?!
[11:08] <Fujitsu> cprov: That's what langpacks do. It'd be nice if they were automatically de-prioritised.
[11:10] <Fujitsu> Why is Malone not filtering out signature attachments? I must pollute every bug I modify the status of, it seems.
[11:10] <cprov> Fujitsu: yes, we should have some build-quota mechanism for each PPA to guarantee it's fair for everyone.
[11:15] <jussi01> hei all, quick question, where can I see the build queue? Im waiting on a build for my ppa...
[11:16] <cprov> jussi01: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[11:16] <jussi01>
[11:16] <jussi01> cprov: thanks
[11:17] <jussi01> cprov: is there anyway to see more of the queue?
[11:18] <jussi01> as in, there are 160 waiting, Id like to see when mine is up. :)
[11:22] <cprov> jussi01: no, unfortunately, this feature is not yet available. See bug 210781, al-maisan is working on it while we talk ;)
[11:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 210781 in soyuz "In order to estimate build job start times new build jobs need to have an estimated duration set for them" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210781 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan)
[11:23] <al-maisan> :-)
[11:25] <jussi01> ahh, ok, thanks very much. :)
[11:26] <jussi01> So there is not even a list of what is going to be done though?
[11:27] <cprov> jussi01: no
[11:27] <jussi01> ok :)
[11:27] <jussi01> thanks again. good luck with it al-maisan  :)
[11:28] <al-maisan> jussi01: thank you very much :-)
[11:28] <jussi01> Ok, see you all then.  :)
[12:14] <kiko> morning!
[12:14] <kiko> al-maisan, cprov: can't he see the build queue depth on edge/+builds
[12:14] <kiko> ?
[12:15] <al-maisan> morning kiko
[12:16] <al-maisan> yep, that page shows the bild queue lengths .. does it help though?
[12:23] <emgent> morning
[12:26] <mantiena-baltix> kiko: hi, maybe you could help to solve releases/milestones registration bug #211223 in launchpad ?
[12:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 211223 in launchpad "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223
[12:27] <kiko> mantiena-baltix, sorry, but not today. I've been looking at that bug again, we do need to find some time to fix it, though
[12:29] <mantiena-baltix> kiko: mpt told me, that maybe salgado could fix it, but I don't see salgado here :(
[12:29] <kiko> it's not something salgado would do
[12:30] <kiko> it's more soyuz than anything else
[12:31] <mantiena-baltix> kiko: so, that bug should be assigned to Soyuz project ?
[12:31] <kiko> yes, but I forewarn you there isn't a lot of slack on that team right now
[12:31] <mantiena-baltix> :(
[12:53] <emgent> kiko: ping
[12:53] <kiko> emgent, pong
[12:53] <emgent> I wrote anteater, a tool for manage penetration test report for ubuntu-whitehat team
[12:54] <emgent> anteater work with python-launchpad-bugs, where i can try it ?
[12:54] <kiko> emgent, staging.launchpad.net?
[12:54] <emgent> ok, thanks
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211261
[13:40] <tseliot> Can anybody tell me why my PPA built packages only for amd64 and not for i386? It used to build packages for 386 as well.  It mean pending build in i386, be patient it will get build at some point. There are other jobs in the i386 queue, see https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[13:45] <tseliot> cprov: ok, thanks for the link. I wanted to be sure that I hadn't messed up my PPA.
[13:45] <cprov> tseliot: we had some problems this morning with the i386 builders, so a lot of jobs were accumulated.
[13:46] <cprov> tseliot: it will quiesce in a bit and the new jobs will be processed quickly as usual.
[13:47] <cprov> tseliot: there are only 20 now :)
[13:50] <tseliot> cprov: great :-)
[15:26] <cr3> yesterday, I updated the pot file for a project on launchpad which has translations. before, I had 35 strings and now I have 45. the problem is that this doesn't seem to be reflected on the translations page :(
[15:29] <kiko> cr3, has it been imported?
[15:41] <cr3> kiko: the changes have been pushed to the branch, do I need to do extra manual labor?
[15:42] <cr3> kiko: the translation page lists the trunk as a "translatable branch"
[15:43] <kiko> cr3, uhh, of course. you need to upload the template manually
[15:44] <kiko> branches and translations aren't linked yet
[15:44] <cr3> kiko: I've done it once though, so I need to do this everytime I make changes to the pot file?
[15:45] <kiko> yep
[15:47] <cr3> oh boy! I wonder if bzr has hooks to write scripts called upon events like commit, perhaps I could automate pushing pot files that way
[15:49] <slicer> Hi. I'm trying to create a new user on the wiki, but after showing me the user preferences it just hangs when I click 'save'.
[15:54] <kiko> slicer, the ubuntu wiki?
[15:54] <kiko> you don't create new accounts there
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #211320 in launchpad "Testcase management in Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211320
[16:00] <slicer> kiko: You log in with your launchpad uid, but when I then try to click 'save' on the userpreferences which pop up, it does not work.
[16:08] <kiko> why do you want to save, though?
[16:13] <slicer> Because I changed some of the preferences? :)
[16:14] <slicer> .. I can't actually save wiki pages either, so there's something odd going on :(
[16:16] <slicer> Ah, ok, let me correct. I can save wiki pages, but it took two minutes before it responded :)
[16:16] <slicer> Guess it's just overloaded.
[16:18] <Rinchen> nealmcb, around?
[16:22] <Rinchen> LaserJock, you around?
[17:27] <mantiena-baltix> hello all
[17:28] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: do you know, that i386 PPA builders (samarium and thallium) doesn't work again ? Look at https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[17:34] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: at least, they all say why they are broken this time.
[17:34] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: something in another build of yours, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105
[17:35] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: same segfault issue
[17:36] <cprov> bug 211261 ?
[17:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 211261 in launchpad-buildd "Misleading BUILDER_FAIL" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211261
[17:40] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: hehe, I'm just trying to backport openoffice.org 2.4 from Ubuntu Hardy ;)
[17:42] <nealmcb> Rinchen: yo
[17:42] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: it seems that this is a known bug in sbuild, for now you could sanitise the build-depends (removing the architecture-specific dependencies)
[17:43] <LaserJock> Rinchen: am now
[17:43] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: I can wait for day or two :)
[17:44] <Rinchen> Hi nealmcb and LaserJock - wondering if I could get you two to visit your person page on edge and advise me if you see your openid url
[17:44] <Rinchen> https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+me
[17:47] <nealmcb> Rinchen: ding! ding! ding!  you are a winner!
[17:47] <Rinchen> nealmcb, sweet thanks.   mars ^^
[17:47] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: waiting will not help you, I'm afraid. I don't know when this problem will be fixed.
[17:48] <nealmcb> Rinchen: and I assume you saw my replies on the thread about having a human-friendly (memorable) lp openid
[17:48] <Rinchen> nealmcb, yes, I did.  I think there is a recent bug on that as well
[17:51] <Rinchen> mrevell, how did SEM go?
[17:51] <Rinchen> mrevell, I'll catch you privately about that actually...
[17:52] <Rinchen> since it's off topic
[18:02] <LaserJock> Rinchen: I don't see anything
[18:02] <LaserJock> oh wait, there it is!
[18:02] <Rinchen> shazaam!
[18:03] <mars> LaserJock, out of curiosity, where did you first expect to see it?
[18:04] <LaserJock> in the portlet on the left side
[18:04] <LaserJock> I have to scroll down to see Contact Details
[18:05] <LaserJock> I guess I would have alternatively expected it in Summary
[18:06] <LaserJock> kiko: ping?
[18:06] <mars> LaserJock, cool, thanks
[18:07] <LaserJock> mars: I wouldn't really consider openID to be a "Contact Detail", along with gpg key
[18:08] <LaserJock> although gpg key I can see marginally if you wanted to encrypt a message to somebody
[18:08] <LaserJock> but am I really gonna use an openID to contact somebody?
[18:09] <kiko> LaserJock, pong?
[18:11]  * mars ponders moving the link
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #211390 in launchpad-buildd "sbuild sigsevs on insane build-depends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211390
[18:25] <ubotu> New bug: #211394 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS deleting a branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211394
[18:51] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: so, maybe you could exactly tell me what should I do to build openoffice.org 2.4 (see https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 ) ?
[18:52] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: I've superseded it manually, it won't build with those B-d.
[18:53] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: I suspect that if you remove the stuff in [] from the B-d it has a chance to work.
[18:54] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: so, I should edit control.in file manually instead of using default file from Ubuntu Hardy ?
[18:54] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: apparently yes, sbuild gets really upset with that.
[18:57] <Rinchen>  ==> Come join the LP meeting in 2 minutes over at #launchpad-meeting!
[19:01] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: it's strange why amd64 and lpia doesn't have building problems with the same build-deps :-/
[19:02] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: people are hunting a perl bug, maybe that.
[19:02] <jussio1> Hei all, me again :) How long does it take for the .deb to show up in a ppa after it has exited the build queue/built?
[19:02] <cprov> less than 20 min
[19:03] <jussio1> cprov: thanks :)
[19:03]  * jussio1 was getting impatient ;)
[19:07] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: why Status of failed https://edge.launchpad.net/~mantas/+archive/+build/554105 build is "Currently building" ?
[19:09] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: fixed.
[19:10] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: you fixed sbuild bug or only status ? ;)
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #211423 in malone "empty email triggering OOPS in the email interface" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211423
[19:11] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: only the bug status, I don't have perl-fu
[19:24] <mantiena-baltix> cprov: btw, could you explain why lpia openoffice.org build fails ? Look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13097080/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.openoffice.org_1%3A2.4.0-3baltix0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:26] <cprov> mantiena-baltix: the b-d is conflicting, I guess. Ask on #motu, they may be able to help you better than me.
[19:58] <Rinchen> changed next mtg date
[19:59] <Rinchen> openid url issue fixed
[20:52] <LaserJock> umm, I'm not really sure how to add information to a Question
[20:52] <LaserJock> my two options are "Add Answer" and "Add Information Request" when I'm not doing either
[20:54] <LaserJock> any help?
[20:55] <kiko> LaserJock, choose one and fire ;)
[20:56] <LaserJock> does it matter which one I choose?
[20:56] <LaserJock> I assumed that they would throw flags
[20:57] <kiko> either you're contributing to the answer or trying to understand what the problem is :)
[20:57] <LaserJock> I was just trying to add more info
[20:58] <LaserJock> not exactly answer and I know what the problem is
[20:58] <kiko> so add answer
[20:58] <LaserJock> alright, that seems so wrong, but if that's the way it's supposed to go
[20:58] <LaserJock> I just thought "add answer" would close it
[20:59] <kiko> the person needs to mark it solved
[21:00] <LaserJock> oh, I see
[21:07] <gioele> hi
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #211489 in malone "It shouldn't be possible to select Savannah as a bug tracker type when editing a bug tracker" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211489
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #211526 in launchpad-bazaar "Codebrowse log directory has unnecessarily permissive permissions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211526