[22:40] <keyhack> MrProper_: I must be an idiot because I cannot figure out how to combine the two drives into one in the installer
[22:40] <techqber1> NetworkManager on Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't support TKIP?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938469
[22:41] <Dante123> iaindalton what do you mean?
[22:41] <Dante123> iaindalton I mean maybe there is a configuration file for the firstclass client specifically?
[22:41] <MrProper_> keyhack, you have to do manual partitioning
[22:41] <pisecx> Joker_-_: hi, do you remember me? yesterday we talked a lot about my cpu & it's temperature
[22:41] <Dante123> iaindalton could it matter that it is a network printer...not directly connected to this pc
[22:42] <MrProper_> i heard the graphical installer now lets you do soft raid at install, but i've always used the alternative installer
[22:42] <ellipsis> I effing love Ubuntu now
[22:42] <keyhack> MrProper_: yeah I'm there, I'm trying to figure it out
[22:42] <ellipsis> since I finally quit gaming I could switch to Linux without consequence, and I feel LIBERATED
[22:42] <MrProper_> ellipsis, lol its a bit like that
[22:43] <ellipsis> something about Linux makes me more productive.
[22:43] <qopi> I've got a dell inspiron 6400 with Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) but my highest screen resolution is 1024 * 768, anyhow here able to help me sort this out?
[22:43] <iaindalton> Dante123: /etc/cups/printers.conf is the configuration file
[22:43] <iaindalton> Dante123: I dunno, try adding a local printer and see if it works
[22:43] <ellipsis> like yesterday, the GUI utility for handling MySQL was throwing up weird errors and refusing to set user perms.
[22:43] <Dante123> iaindalton okay....I'll try
[22:43] <MrProper_> ellipsis, i like linux+gnu due to the fact i dont have a monkey on my shoulder telling me i cant do it that way because we dont want you to
[22:43] <ellipsis> on windows I would have googled for a while and then given up and tried another gui utility
[22:44] <ellipsis> on linux, I popped up a terminal, logged in via the console, and entered the stuff by hand
[22:44] <ellipsis> and in the process, I learned some new mysql commands
[22:44] <olistik> hello
[22:44] <keyhack> MrProper_: the USB stick shows up as sda, and sdb and sdc are the two SATA drives, I'm in the manual partitioner, but I see no way to configure a RAID for them
[22:44] <Omoikane__> I installed ibex and now my mute button doesn't work. I tried playing with the assignments to make sure the button itself works and it does but for some reason the mute function doesn't work anymore. any ideas?
[22:45] <Dante123> iaindalton No, it doesn't work. I changed a local printer to default...then started program again...and still no go.
[22:45] <Dante123> iaindalton thanks for help anyway.....is there a cups irc chatroom
[22:45] <MrProper_> keyhack, create new partitions on them then change the type to software raid
[22:46] <pisecx> Where can I submit a bug? Bug is really bad
[22:46] <olistik> Can I use an usb key for a /var partition? When I boot up do I encounter some problems? (maybe because the usb layer is loaded after fstab parsing?)
[22:46] <keyhack> MrProper_: ah, thanks
[22:46] <pisecx> I mean it's a high priority
[22:46] <DasEi> pisecx: see:
[22:47] <DasEi> !bug
[22:47] <Ice_Phantom> Hi.  I need help with the resolution.  I loaded a copy of ubuntu (latest version) and for some reason it's not allowing me to access the resolution at 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024.  What can I do?
[22:47] <Dante123> iaindalton would it matter that the printer address is entered as lpd://192.168.1.XX ?
[22:47] <Ana> Durring ubuntu install process I get this: [2,036007] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71
[22:47] <Ice_Phantom> Hi.  I need help with the resolution.  I loaded a copy of ubuntu (latest version) and for some reason it's not allowing me to access the resolution at 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024.  What can I do?   I also tried the "visual effects" tab....doesn't seem to work.
[22:47] <jgomo3> ubuntu 8.10. Since i updated, firefox allways notify me it must restart for updates to take effect.
[22:48] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: have you already checked that you don't need a proprietary driver for your video card?
[22:48] <apeiron> Hey all. Does anyone know of any programs for Ubuntu that work like the pbcopy / pbpaste commands on OS X? (command line piped clipboard access).
[22:48] <Dante123> Hi all, I have a hyvision lcd monitor......how do I select it for use in ubuntu instead of just generic?
[22:48] <pisecx> Does anybody here has dell inspiron 1501?
[22:48] <Ice_Phantom> let me check...one sec
[22:48] <Omoikane__> Anyone have any experience with mute buttons not working?
[22:49] <olistik> Ice_Phantom:  you can check that by looking in System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[22:50] <Ice_Phantom> uh oh....none there.
[22:50] <Dante123> how to select monitor model/type for ubuntu
[22:51] <Omoikane__> My mute button has been broken for weeks now and I can't seem to figure out why.
[22:51] <Ice_Phantom> What database can I access to get the proprietary drivers?
[22:51] <Ice_Phantom> olistik:  to add them, what is the site?  or..do I have to do it manually?
[22:51] <faryshta> Ice_Phantom, go System->Hardware Drivers.
[22:51] <DasEi> Dante123: ibex or hardy ?
[22:51] <faryshta> on menu
[22:52] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: if you've nothing there maybe it's not that easy or maybe you don't need that kind of support
[22:52] <edi_99> Hi guys do you maybe know how to change keyboard language in ubuntulite?
[22:52] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: administration --> hardware drivers?
[22:52] <carpii> i copied some truetype fonts into my WINE fonts folder. I also registered them and can use them in Ubuntu. But Photoshoip in wine isnt picking these new fonts up. Anyone else had this problem?
[22:52] <olistik> yep
[22:53] <Omar87> Configuring Linksys W300N usb adapter on Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:53] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: nothing there.
[22:53] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: if that doesn't work, have you already tried to change the resolution by looking into System ->Preferences -> Monitor Resolution ?
[22:54] <Dante123> DasEi hardy
[22:54] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: you mean screen resolution? Yes...I tried all that.
[22:54] <DasEi> Dante123: open a terminal ...
[22:54] <bashbin> hi
[22:55] <DasEi> Dante123: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.saved
[22:55] <Uplink> anyone can help me with conky? its hidding my desktop shortcuts
[22:55] <dewente> I am looking for IT career advice for me !!!
[22:55] <DasEi> Dante123: sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[22:55] <DasEi> !ot | dewente
[22:55] <bashbin> How can I play a movie,  when I have a directory containing  *.bup,  *.ifo and *vob  files?  None of them seems to be playable
[22:55] <Omar87> Help configuring Linksys W300N usb adapter on Ubuntu 8.10, please?
[22:56] <olistik> bashbin: have you tried with vlc too?
[22:56] <DasEi> !vlc | bashbin
[22:56] <Uplink> Omar87: is that a usb wifi?
[22:56] <DasEi> Dante123: sudo l displayconfig-gtk
[22:56] <olistik> DasEi: that's useful :D
[22:56] <dewente> I am looking for IT career advice for me !!!
[22:56] <Omar87> Uplink: mm, yup.
[22:56] <Uplink> Omar87: ok so where u stuck
[22:56] <olistik> !ot | dewente
[22:56] <digitalfox> Has anyone here had an odd problem wherein UDP packets are received (according to tcpdump) but aren't actually received by the application?
[22:57] <bashbin> thx =)
[22:57] <bashbin> vlc works :)
[22:57] <olistik> :)
[22:57] <Uplink> bashbin: it always does
[22:57] <bashbin> =)
[22:57] <bashbin> thank you
[22:57] <olistik> yep, it rox
[22:57] <bashbin> bye bye =)
[22:57] <olistik> bb
[22:57] <DasEi> Dante123: display > manual /manufacturer selection, can find your moni ?
[22:57] <Omar87> Uplink: not me, a friend of mine has it, is a new Ubuntu user and has no clue how to do what, yet.
[22:58] <dr_willis> !training
[22:58] <Uplink> Omar87: ok so try iwconfig on terminal
[22:58] <dr_willis> Old - but still a good guide. :)
[22:58] <Uplink> 7.10!?
[22:58] <Uplink> lol
[22:58] <Ana> Can somebody please take a look at  http://paste.ubuntu.comhttp://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: I went to the site: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-47TUYM#video  --- looking for a driver but nothing is there.
[22:58] <jjproctor_> hey can someone help me i just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop (dell inspron 1521) and i cant get the machine to sleep right can someone point me to a place or tell me how to fix the problem
[22:58] <Uplink> ummm Ana?
[22:58] <dr_willis> Uplink,  what do you want for free. :) gee.. a yr old book on vista would not be considerd out of date. ;P
[22:58] <DasEi> Ana: bad link
[22:59] <dewente> how much is a red hat certification ?
[22:59] <Ana> http://paste.ubuntu.com/74982 , I'm totally confused
[22:59] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: how do I get a proprietary driver?
[22:59] <Ana> DasEi check the new one please
[22:59] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: have you tried changing the resolution normally? :)
[22:59] <dewente> how much is a red hat certification ?
[22:59] <ryguy999> I am on 79 channels, across 8 networks. I have 2 olines, 51 ops, 10 halfops, and 15 voices. I have pwning power over 542 geeks!!!!
[22:59] <Dante123>  DasEi hang on....thanks for help
[22:59] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: maybe you don't need other drivers
[22:59] <DasEi> !hi | Ana
[23:00] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: how do I figure that out?  Where would I look or what could I change?
[23:00] <Ana> ubottu I'm on ubuntu at work at home I still have problems installing it
[23:00] <Ana> ubottu thanks
[23:00] <dewente> how much is a red hat certification ?
[23:00] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:00] <olistik> Ice_phantom: go to system -> preferences -> monitor resolution
[23:00] <Dante123> DasEi I do not see my make and model on the list
[23:00] <Uplink> x)
[23:01] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: system -> preferences -> monitor resolution (screen resolution)
[23:01] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:01] <Dante123> DasEi If I can find the specs (refresh rates) would it be possible to manually enters those?
[23:01] <Omar87> ubottu thanks
[23:01] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: it says "unknown."
[23:02] <DasEi> Dante123: it was a LCD ?
[23:02] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: it says resolution 8 x 6.
[23:02] <Uplink> jjproctor_: maybe muted? ;p
[23:02] <DasEi> Ana: installer cd checked ?
[23:02] <linxeh> are there any apps that can help me consolodate and de-duplicate several GB of email in mbox and maildir format?
[23:02] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: 800x600?
[23:02] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: yes
[23:03] <olistik> mmh, you can't change it, can you?
[23:03] <Ana> DasEi yes and not only that, it's the same one I used at work. And I have checked it 15 minutes ago with ubuntu installer again
[23:03] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: no.....don't know how with these menus.
[23:03] <Omar87> Help configuring Linksys W300N usb adapter on Ubuntu 8.10, please?
[23:03] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: is there another program I can use?  with other version of linux I used xfree86 etc...get the idea?
[23:03] <qopi> nothing happens when I do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:03] <qopi> any ideas?
[23:04] <DasEi> Ana: tried to disable usb in bios (just for install ?)
[23:04] <jdbolt> hello
[23:04] <Dante123> DasEi Yes, it is an lcd.  But on some games under wine I get "out of range error" and I think I need the specific refresh rates for this monitor.  Same game works under ubuntu on another machine with a monitor that is setup with correct make and model.
[23:04]  * qopi wants to have a screen resolution higher than 1024 * 768
[23:04] <jdbolt> can someone please name a dog for us!
[23:04] <jdbolt> thanks
[23:04] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: try this one:  having a false sense of security is worse than having no security at all
[23:04] <Ana> DasEi no I havent but I will now
[23:04] <Ice_Phantom> jdbolt: cujo
[23:04] <Dante123> it is a Megavision Hyvision mv 177
[23:05] <olistik> ops
[23:05] <jdbolt> cujo, awesome!
[23:05] <Omar87> Help configuring Linksys W300N usb adapter on Ubuntu 8.10, please?
[23:05] <jdbolt> we have two to name
[23:05] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: this one XD sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:05] <jdbolt> maybe name is apt?
[23:05] <jdbolt> lolz
[23:05] <efg-uk> this question is too small for a thread so I've been saving it but here we go; how do I get rid of a terminal window (that is running an app) without killing the app in the process?
[23:06] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: It's not connected.  But why can I access xserver? Using gnome.
[23:06] <DasEi> Dante123: I think of two possible ways then : choose generic 1024 lcd from dspl..gtk to get sections in xorg, edit xorg manually afterwards, or
[23:07] <Dante123> DasEi I cant seem to find anywhere on web where it gives the specs for refresh rates for this model
[23:07] <DasEi> Dante123: use /var/log/Xorg.0.log  for correct parameters
[23:07] <Dante123> DasEi how do I do the latter....just open editor and read /var/log/Xorg.0.log??
[23:07] <DasEi> Dante123: exact model / or paste above file
[23:07] <olistik> Ice_Phantom: maybe gnome can't get native resolution by the underlying xserver
[23:08] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: which program can?
[23:08] <olistik> don't know this config tools very well, sorry :)
[23:08] <DasEi> Dante123: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:08] <PC> Can I ask ubuntu networking questions here, or is this just for general questions?
[23:08] <DasEi> Dante123: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:08] <n8tuser> PC -> go ahead
[23:08] <Omar87> Help configuring Linksys W300N usb adapter on Ubuntu 8.10, please?
[23:08] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: what about through shell?
[23:09] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: what about through shell?  ( terminal )  like a command....?
[23:09] <Uplink> Omar87: type iwconfig on terminal, i told you once
[23:09] <PC> I've got a pptp tunnel running using pon. I can ping IP addresses on the VPN and I can nslookup names,
[23:09] <PC> but I can't ping names
[23:09] <PC> so ping <IP_ADDRESS> works but ping ldnws02.companyname.com does not
[23:09] <olistik> I've told you the command before
[23:09] <PC> nslookup ldnws02.companyname.com works
[23:09] <n8tuser> PC look into your /etc/resolv.conf
[23:09] <Ice_Phantom> one sec
[23:09] <olistik> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:09] <DasEi> Dante123: url from last cmd ?
[23:10] <PC> n8tuser - the two lines I added in /etc/resolv.conf are
[23:10] <Ice_Phantom> got it.
[23:10] <PC> search companyname.com
[23:10] <PC> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:10] <olistik> if it doesn't solve you the problem I don't know how to help you :)
[23:10] <MellowDude> hi where is the mms.cfg  file in ubuntu
[23:10] <PC> am I missing something else?
[23:10] <Ice_Phantom> olistik: thanks.
[23:11] <olistik> no problem :)
[23:11] <n8tuser> !who | PC
[23:11] <Dante123> DasEi try  http://pastebin.ca/1263159
[23:11] <PC> n8tuser: sorry.
[23:11] <PC> n8tuser: what I added to resolv.conf is
[23:11] <PC> n8tuser: search companyname.com
[23:12] <PC> n8tuser: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:12] <n8tuser> PC  whats the contents  of your  /etc/hosts   post in pastebin please not in this channel
[23:12] <Dante123>  DasEi  Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_0.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (12
[23:12] <MellowDude> its say on adode website to go to file mms.cfg  and add  OverrideGPUValidation=1
[23:12] <PC> n8tuser: just lookup pastebin now, never used it before. many thanks
[23:13] <MellowDude> but cant find the mms.cfg file
[23:13] <n8tuser> !pastebin | PC
[23:13] <Dante123> so DasEi try  http://pastebin.ca/1263159
[23:13] <Ana> DasEi I did disable usb controller in bios and I got the same error
[23:13] <Dante123> DasEi have to go drop kid of at guitar lessong....will read your reply when I get back....Thanks for help!
[23:13] <PC> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m7c81099f
[23:13] <DasEi> Dante123: got it, so DPMS seems to work and moni is configured 1024@60, which looks correct to a lcd
[23:14] <PC> n8tuser whoops. I am using the wrong pastebin. I will switch to the correct one now
[23:14] <PC> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/74989/
[23:15] <ozatomic> 4is it posible in 'top' to filter it so it only shows proccesses from one user?
[23:15] <gokhan_> id
[23:15] <gokhan_> selamlar
[23:15] <Vegancheesesteak> hi i have a problem with my ubuntu 6.06 server network config. what could cause a box to be reachable on the local network, but it cant be reached via the outside net.  its not the firewall...ive tried disabling it
[23:15] <easyboy> r localhost 1111
[23:15] <Dante123> DasEi any ideas why game gives me out of range error on this lcd then?
[23:15] <gokhan_> q
[23:15] <DasEi> Ana: but neither the cd nor the hd are attached to usb ? any other devices on usb ?
[23:15] <Dante123> DasEi but same game works with crt?
[23:15] <Uplink> Vegancheesesteak: can i ask why is it 6.06?
[23:16] <n8tuser> PC seems everything is okay,  can you paste one more...  route -n
[23:16] <DasEi> Dante123: might be a prob with
[23:16] <DasEi> !wine
[23:16] <CourtJesterG> #bot
[23:16] <Vegancheesesteak> Uplink, its been running 6.06 for some time...but this is a new network config
[23:16] <insaneinside> hey, anybody want to persuade me that Ubuntu isn't a piece of shit and that I shouldn't install Debian on my laptop?  upgrade to 8.04 was bad enough because of some bad packaging (i had to manually edit the postinst scripts...  To 8.10? oh, you don't even want me to start..
[23:16] <gokhan_> id
[23:16] <PC> n8tuser: sure, thanks
[23:16] <insaneinside> ...
[23:16] <Vegancheesesteak> also it is using a static ip
[23:16] <insaneinside> i'm desperate, thanks.
[23:16] <insaneinside> :(
[23:16] <Uplink> Vegancheesesteak: try updating to 8.10? lol
[23:16] <Dante123> DasEi okay thanks for help...will try that irc channel
[23:17] <Vegancheesesteak> Uplink, lol i dont think thats the prob
[23:17] <insaneinside> yeah, watch it break...
[23:17] <n8tuser> PC also if you do a  dig -x <IP_ADDRESS>   does it resolve properly?
[23:17] <Uplink> Vegancheesesteak: yea i know thats not the problem... i just like to keep stuff updated for vulns
[23:17] <DasEi> Dante123: if changed xorg, replay the backup, cu
[23:17] <Vegancheesesteak> Uplink 6.06lts...still supported
[23:17] <PC> n8tuser: I have just tried ping again and what appears to be happening is that pings are takinng 10000 ms to return 3 packets
[23:17] <PC> n8tuser: many thanks for confirming that my configs are OK. I think the network is just slow
[23:17] <PurityOfEssence> Hi can someone confirm that vpdn-access-cisco.csx.cam.ac.uk responds to ping
[23:18] <PC> n8tuser: I didn't realise exactly how slow because I've never done pptp this way before. many thanks
[23:18] <Uplink> Vegancheesesteak: ok give me  your server IP...
[23:18] <n8tuser> PC okay
[23:18] <Ana> DasEi I have usb extenders from back of the mobo, and I have pull them all out. CD is IDE and both drives are sata2
[23:18] <foxtrotniner> hi i'm trying to get my remote to work on ubuntu, i just installed lirc now i'm confused, what do i do now?
[23:18] <Vegancheesesteak> <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:18] <Uplink> Vegancheesesteak: oh man i was just joking....
[23:18] <Uplink> lol
[23:19] <neer> Hi can anyone tell me how to install sopcast webplayer in ubuntu?
[23:19] <DasEi> PurityOfEssence:pingable
[23:19] <Vegancheesesteak> Uplink, hehe the ip is not a prob...no you cant have root. lol
[23:19] <DasEi> PurityOfEssence pingable
[23:19] <PurityOfEssence> thanks DasEi
[23:19] <PurityOfEssence> ooh launchpad is openid now?
[23:20] <Uplink> :(
[23:20] <Omoikane__> Anyone have any experience with mute buttons not working?
[23:20] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: oh, sure
[23:21] <DasEi> Ana: can you boot live cd on that machine ?
[23:22] <Ana> DasEi yes
[23:22] <Omoikane__> insaneinside oh please help!
[23:22] <Ana> DasEi no problem
[23:22] <DasEi> Ana: do so and paste the /var/log/syslog
[23:22] <Ana> DasEi machine hardware should be ok, vista ran good on it for a year also
[23:22] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:22] <Omoikane__> insaneinside the button itself works but the function seems to be broken.
[23:23] <StriderZ> My uvcvideo device doesn't work properly on some Flash websites. The video comes out garbled. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[23:23] <DasEi> problem : message [2,036007] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71 given at ubuntu install
[23:23] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: actually, i was just planning to be an asshole and complain about how bad my current impression of Ubuntu's overall coordination is.. but being constructive sounds better. :)
[23:24] <Omoikane__> insaneinside I upgraded to intrepid and it stopped working.
[23:24] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: what do you mean by "the button works"?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <vonguard> part
[23:24] <Omoikane__> insaneinside any ideas?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <PurityOfEssence> Is there a recommended infra red control?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <Ana> DasEi will do
[23:24] <StriderZ> WTF?
[23:24] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: what do you mean by "the button works"?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <jjproctor_> allso i have another problem when i restart my laptop dell inspron 1521 the sound gos all the way down why is that?
[23:24] <FloodBot1> jjproctor_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <insaneinside> lol
[23:25] <StriderZ> alrighty then
[23:25] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: does anything happen when you press the button?
[23:25] <DrX> anyone know how to fix "Insufficient privilege fo the file" "Unable to set the short 8.3 name" "The system call level is not correct" on some files and "Unable to write data" and "Access is denied" errors on about 200,000 of 300,000 files being restored from a Windows XP NTBackup to a Linux server?
[23:26] <extor> When I look into my kern.log then is there any way to tell which iptables policy rule a certain packet was matched against, and if the packet was accepted or dropped?
[23:26] <Omoikane__> insaneinside I can reassign the button to say 'volume up' or 'volume down' and it works but if I reassign 'volume down' to mute it doesn't mute.     You're not paying us you don't deserve anything.
[23:27] <kitche> !language > PassionFRUI7E
[23:28] <PassionFRUI7E> jjproctor:  Be nice and you get rewarded son.
[23:28] <kitche> PassionFRUI7E: and your talking to yourself
[23:28] <DasEi> !k3b |  Skky:
[23:28] <regeya> jjproctor: it's a pretty vague question.  and you're being annoying.  sounds like something's misconfigured to where your alsa settings are not being saved.
[23:28] <regeya> Skky:  are you burning a data DVD?
[23:28] <PassionFRUI7E> kitche: That made about no sense.
[23:28] <Skky> regeya: audio cd
[23:28] <regeya> or go with what DasEi said.  For graphical *n?x burning apps, k3b > *
[23:28] <kitche> PassionFRUI7E: sure it does jjproctor is no longer here so in essence your talking to yourself
[23:28] <DasEi>  Skky:mp3 with tags
[23:29] <Omoikane__> insaneinside yeah, so after ruling out hw I moved on to sw and promptly got lost in a series of googles that never came to any success.
[23:29] <regeya> PassionFRUI7E: ar u a grammer nazzi?
[23:29] <foxtrotniner> hi i'm trying to get my ati remote wonder to work on ubuntu, i just installed lirc now i'm confused, what do i do now? I tried to run irw but it doesn't have any echo, i've tried a couple other drivers none seem to work
[23:29] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: you can try running xev, and pressing the volume keys to see if they have the right symbols...
[23:29] <ompaul> !offtopic | regeya
[23:29] <PassionFRUI7E> kitche: Sorry to disappoint.
[23:29] <Skky> DasEi: yeah, like if I right-click my MP3s and go to Properties -> Audio it all shows correctly
[23:29] <jabop> Any idea when I'm going to be able to upgrade via Update manager? :\
[23:29] <dellpc> hi i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to update my computer because it is running so slow and i have never used ubuntu or a linux processor before
[23:29] <PassionFRUI7E> regeya:  Is trolling fun?
[23:30] <samferry> regeya: No offense... but, learn some grammar.
[23:30] <WelshDragon> jabop, Upgrade from what to what?
[23:30] <DrX> FYI:   I'm asking a question and I promise not to yell nor use profanity ;)
[23:30] <Flannel> PassionFRUI7E: Please stop
[23:30] <regeya> yeah...I don't have k3b on this machine (ancient os x 10.4 install) so I can't check the settings but I think it can burn cd-text...
[23:30] <regeya> shucks speaking of my work machine, it's time to go home!
[23:30] <jabop> WelshDragon: http://www.pastebin.ca/1263179
[23:30] <Omoikane__> insaneinside what is xev?
[23:30] <DrX> anyone know how to fix "Insufficient privilege fo the file" "Unable to set the short 8.3 name" "The system call level is not correct" on some files and "Unable to write data" and "Access is denied" errors on about 200,000 of 300,000 files being restored from a Windows XP NTBackup to a Linux server?
[23:30] <PassionFRUI7E> Flannel: Stop what?  I'm confused.
[23:30] <jabop> I'm trying to update via Update manager, i've been getting those errs for the past 3 days
[23:30] <strN00B> what is good WEBCAM software for Ubuntu?
[23:30] <insaneinside> run it from the command line
[23:31] <DasEi>  Skky:huhm, I think brasero should so, too, I use k3b , that definetly does (as it shows up in amarok)
[23:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Anybody enlighten me on the GNU C++ Compiler bash command?
[23:31] <dellpc> can anyone please help me i have a question
[23:31] <insaneinside> PassionFRUI7E: g++
[23:31] <Ark3kGT> Does anybody know of a way in Gnome to have different wallpapers for different workspaces
[23:31] <Omoikane__> insaneinside just sudo xev?
[23:31] <jgb4> are there any known bugs regarding cryptsetup with LVM on intrepid?  I get "No key available with this passphrase" with the installed kernel, as well as the alternative i386 cd.
[23:32] <kitche> jabop: try a different mirror
[23:32] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: o_O
[23:32] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: no sudo necessary
[23:32] <PassionFRUI7E> insaneinside: Why thank you!  I didn't know bash took symbols in command names.
[23:32] <DasEi> PassionFRUI7E: /j #bash
[23:32] <jabop> kitche: do you know a different mirror off the top of your head?
[23:32] <jgb4> also, the dm_crypt module is loaded
[23:32] <kitche> jabop: try the main repo instead of the us one
[23:33] <Omoikane__> insaneinside this is nifty. anyway. what do I do with the output?
[23:33] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: see any output about key symbols?
[23:33] <xeer> Where can I ask a question about setting my wifi card into ad-hoc mode to share a internet connection?
[23:33] <Ana> DasEi will do,I kind of needed that usb controller I have disabled in the live cd (usb mouse) :)
[23:33] <Ark3kGT> ok nevermind
[23:33] <johan_> Hi - how can I make all .avi-files be opened with for example vlc?
[23:34] <DasEi> Ana: devilish details
[23:34] <jjproctor_> OK im asking NICELY can any one help a noob fix his laptop?
[23:34] <Skky> DasEi: k3b does not support mp3?
[23:34] <jabop> kitche: main still fails
[23:35] <insaneinside> jjproctor_: try asking about the specific problems you're having. ;)
[23:35] <Omoikane__> insaneinside http://pastebin.com/m1b6b47e7 this is the mute output
[23:35] <DasEi> anyway, whats wrong with Ana's attempt in installing ubuntu ? (all routine checks done ) : 2,092030] hub 1-0:1,0 unable to enumerate usb device on port 2
[23:35] <jabop> main.archive.ubuntu.com, right?
[23:35] <strN00B> any good webcam software for Ubuntu?
[23:35] <kitche> jabop: nope just archieve.ubuntu.com
[23:35] <Ark3kGT> SeaofTea: you in here?
[23:35] <insaneinside> strN00B: i like effectv. :D
[23:36] <DasEi>  Skky:brasero (that stimes failed burning for me) does as k3b for sure does
[23:36] <strN00B> insaneinside: ty
[23:36] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: well, that looks alright.  XF86AudioMute is exactly what we want, in fact
[23:36] <DasEi> strN00B: zoneminder
[23:36] <johan_> anyone?
[23:36] <insaneinside> strN00B: not for vidconferencing, tho ;)
[23:36] <jefsky> Who should I report a bug to? My updates are all of a sudden giving a "mismatch" error message.
[23:36] <jabop> kitche: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg  Connection failed
[23:36] <DasEi> strN00B: easycam
[23:37] <jjproctor_> ok well on my laptop the sound leavls PCM and MASTER mute there selfs on every restart my laptop is a dell inspron 1521
[23:37] <kitche> jabop: well you do know edgy is no longer supported right hence why your getting that error
[23:37] <DasEi> strN00B: win apps < wine (freakly)
[23:37] <jefsky> Oh! I'm not the only one!
[23:37] <Omoikane__> insaneinside so we are back to scratching our heads?
[23:37] <scientes> how can i set up a bridge when the host has a static ip but any other interfaces can bet set up however? i havnt had much success with my /etc/network/interfaces
[23:37] <jabop> kitche: Oh, bummer. :\
[23:37] <xeer> iwconfig says my wlan0 device is in ad-hoc mode, ifconfig reports the device with an inet addr of <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>. When I scan on another computer I don't get the signal. What could I be doing wrong?
[23:38] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: lemme poke around at something..
[23:38] <Omoikane__> insaneinside Thanks.
[23:38] <shahin8r> my desktop computer is running compiz pretty choppy (ati 9600 pro 256mb). even scrolling is pretty choppy. its not like this at all with my laptop which has much worse specs. any ideas?
[23:38] <scientes> how could i edit this to get a bridge : http://pastie.org/320144
[23:38] <Redbullie> Hi. What file do I need to modify to adjust screen settings?
[23:38] <jjproctor_> ok well on my laptop the sound leavls PCM and MASTER mute there selfs on every restart my laptop is a dell inspron 1521
[23:38] <jjproctor_> insaneinside u hear?
[23:38] <xeer> shahin8r, are you using fglrx drivers?
[23:38] <DasEi> !wine >strN00B
[23:38] <komputes> where can i find a bluetooth log?
[23:39] <Skky> DasEi: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[23:39] <shahin8r> xeer: yep, it prompted me for it so i activated it.
[23:39] <Skky> You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.
[23:39] <neztiti> guys how i can install libextractor on ubuntu 8.10
[23:39] <xeer> shahin8r, have you checked if you have direct rendering enabled?
[23:39] <Skky> Am I missing some package maybe?
[23:39] <ssalas92> i cant uninstall something from wine... how can i?
[23:39] <shahin8r> xeer: nope, how do i do that?
[23:40] <xeer> shahin8r, google for "fglrx dri"
[23:40] <DasEi>  Skky:hardy or ibex ?
[23:40] <Redbullie> Through VNC I managed to adjust the screen settings to some unsupported by my screen. Now I can't boot into the graphical window environment and wonder what file I need to modify to adjust the screen settings. Running Ubuntu 7.10
[23:40] <Skky> DasEi: hardy
[23:40] <jefsky> Better luck another time  BYE
[23:40] <shahin8r> xeer: ok thanks. did a quick check in my xorg.conf and cant see a dri driver loaded. thanks for the tip!
[23:40] <DasEi>  Skky:easytag should do that
[23:41] <ssalas92> can anyone help me.... i can't uninstall something from wine
[23:42] <Skky> ssalas92: Applications > Wine > Uninstall Wine Software   doesn't work?
[23:42] <Uplink> ssalas92: what you cant uninstall
[23:42] <ssalas92> i downlod itunes
[23:42] <PriceChild> jjproctor_: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/03/20/saving-sound-volume-levels-across-reboots/
[23:42] <ssalas92> and when i installed... wine installed only bonjour and quicktime
[23:42] <ssalas92> but itunes didn't apear
[23:43] <PriceChild> jjproctor_: that was the 6th result for "sound level on boot ubuntu" when googling.
[23:43] <Skky> ssalas92: itunes doesn't work well with wine
[23:43] <Skky> ssalas92: by that i mean, i don't know anyone who has it working
[23:43] <ssalas92> and now i cant uninstall anything
[23:43] <remote>
[23:43] <ssalas92> when i push uninstall... wine try to reinstall it again
[23:44] <Kyle____> HELP: PRO/Wireless network connection - network DISABLED
[23:44] <Ana> DasEi http://paste.ubuntu.com/75000 , now you have all info kernel has :)
[23:44] <powertool08> Does anyone know if the repo's are down? I'm trying to update and aptitude sticks at ca.archive.ubuntu.com (Hits the security servers fine)
[23:44] <jgb4> are there any chans that can help me with dm_crypt?
[23:45] <DasEi> Ana: light in the cloud : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gigabyte_GA-P35-DS3L_1
[23:45] <xeer> http://pastebin.com/d5436ecb2 -- ifconfig and iwconfig dumps. I'm trying to get my wifi card to broadcast my internet connection in ad-hoc mode. please take a look.
[23:45] <strN00B> how do i open up my repository again?
[23:45] <strN00B> with gedit
[23:45] <insaneinside> xeer: you need bridging?  probably bridgeutils, not ad-hoc
[23:45] <Ana> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gigabyte_GA-P35-DS3L_1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gigabyte_GA-P35-DS3L_1
[23:46] <Skky> DasEi: EasyTag is showing all my MP3 tags correctly, so i don't know why Brasero won't pick them up?
[23:46] <musikgoat|main> powertool08: if your having trouble, you can change your download mirror
[23:46] <ssalas92> does anyone know to uninstall something from wine???
[23:46] <musikgoat|main> powertool08: in the system -> admin -> software sources
[23:47] <Uplink> ssalas92: yes
[23:47] <Ana> DasEi I do not understand I have it
[23:47] <powertool08> musikgoat|main: thanks
[23:47] <Ana> DasEi here it says it works
[23:47] <Guest89921> help i my top toolbar has disappeared from every window
[23:48] <Guest89921> how can i bring it back?
[23:48] <xeer> insaneinside, ad-hoc would be for setting my card to broadcast, correct? I'm assuming the bridge-utils is for linking my connection to the wireless device
[23:48] <Skky> ssalas92: try reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821059
[23:48] <insaneinside> xeer: you'd want your card to act as an access point.
[23:49] <xeer> insaneinside, yes. bridge-utils offers that?
[23:49] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: i recall that there was some way to change volume bindings --  i don't use the standard GNOME session, so i can't find it right now.  maybe try looking in the metacity prefs?
[23:49] <cheater_> Is there no place I can go for WUBI help!?
[23:49] <DasEi> Ana: so do I, try boot options of the installer, acpi=off  , maybe nolapic  as it seems to be an irq issue
[23:49] <PriceChild> jjproctor_: 6th result for "sound level on boot ubuntu" gives http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/03/20/saving-sound-volume-levels-across-reboots/
[23:50] <Omoikane__> insaneinside would that be in system-> prefs?
[23:50] <insaneinside> xeer: no, ap mode is dependant on your wireless drivers
[23:50] <insaneinside> Omoikane__: probably
[23:50] <DasEi>  Skky:tried k3b already ?
[23:50] <xeer> insaneinside, yes which it supports and is in that mode right now
[23:50] <Skky> DasEi: yeah, it won't accept MP3 files.  Says unsupported file type :\
[23:50] <Ana> DasEi I will, I have been linux (red hat) admin for 4 years now and I have never had such problems with any linux machine  meet so far
[23:51] <ubuntu> hello all, i just installed 8.10 on my dell studio and it is working great! - even the wireless! however I have to install the ATI/ADM propretary FGLRX when i go to activate it it just gives me a message box with a red cross no error message is there known errors with this?
[23:51] <PurityOfEssence> Ana how long until you get a red hat?
[23:51] <DasEi>  Skky:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:51] <Omoikane__> insaneinside would it be called metacity prefs?
[23:51] <DasEi> Ana: strange fruit, err ?
[23:52] <ubuntu> can anyone help? or see me chatting?
[23:52] <hotmonkeyluv> nope, can't see you ubuntu
[23:52] <DasEi> ubuntu:can't see ya
[23:52] <musikgoat|main> heh
[23:52] <j3d1squ1rr3l> Nope me neither
[23:52] <Skky> walked into that one
[23:52] <Skky> haha
[23:52] <hotmonkeyluv> yup
[23:53] <hotmonkeyluv> try saying something else ubuntu, perhaps we'll see it then
[23:53] <musikgoat|main> !repeat |ubuntu
[23:53] <Ana> DasEi yeah, :=)
[23:53] <iHope> i installed 8.04 yesterday. and found .gvfs. HDD=250G; /=50G /home=200G; but .gvfs=50G, seems i got extra 50G from somewhere in the air?
[23:53] <DasEi> Ana: works ? or yeah, bad fruit ?
[23:54] <ubuntu> ok i have tried those links and there is nothing with the same error im recieving
[23:54] <cheater_> does anyone know where I can get some wubi help?
[23:54] <Ana> PurityOfEssence I am not cerfified on red hat, but it costs 5000eu with all education included and it took my friend several mounths (he failed and his boss is pissed)
[23:54] <niko__> hi chap.. i need your help..... any idea to disable change desktop with scroll mouse Ubuntu 8.10
[23:54] <Skky> cheater_: any linux/ubuntu tech support forum.  as far as I see there is no specific forum dedicated to wubi
[23:54] <PurityOfEssence> but they do give you a red hat if you pass
[23:54] <DasEi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions, Ana
[23:54] <DasEi> oops, off
[23:55] <Skky> cheater_: actually, try http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[23:55] <tzanger> good evening
[23:55] <Redbullie> Could someone please tell me where I can restore the settings so that I can see the graphical environment (Gnome). Running Ubuntu 7.10, everything was fine until now when the screen goes blank upon reaching the login screen
[23:55] <tzanger> got a small problem regarding the hp packages that recently want to be updated
[23:55] <tzanger> all the debs come up "size mismatch" -- is there an easy fix for this
[23:56] <Din|BSD> Redbullie: have you tried 8.04?
[23:56] <Din|BSD> i wont even recommend 8.10 yet
[23:56] <tzanger> I'm still running 7.10 I think
[23:56] <Ana_> PurityOfEssence if you need red hat download cent os, it's the same thing
[23:56] <binarymutant> whats the fork of pidgin that uses ncurses or the cli called?
[23:56] <hotmonkeyluv> Din|BSD, I like 8.10 acctually
[23:56] <Flannel> binarymutant: Its not a fork, but I believe its called finch
[23:56] <niko__>  any idea to disable change desktop with scroll mouse Ubuntu 8.10
[23:56] <niko__> ??
[23:56] <ConstantineXVI> binarymutant: finch, and it's not really a fork
[23:57] <ConstantineXVI> niko__: installed compizconfig?
[23:57] <binarymutant> ty Flannel  & ConstantineXVI
[23:57] <cheater_> Well, last time I did a system update with wubi it wouldn't log back on after a restart and im scared to try to update again. I want to know of there is a known bug with 8.10 and wubi
[23:57] <PurityOfEssence> i just want a hat.
[23:57] <niko__> ConstantineXVI, no yet
[23:57] <Redbullie> Din|BSD: So you suggest me to reinstall 8.04 over my existing installation? I just want to bring back the display that currently is blank...
[23:57] <Ana_> DasEi no acpi would kind of leave me with inferior system, wouldnt it :)
[23:57] <Haunt_House> bazhang:  Thanks for the help yesterday, the display driver problem is solved
[23:58] <DasEi> Ana: works ? or yeah, bad fruit ?
[23:58] <DasEi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions, Ana
[23:58] <Din|BSD> i wasnt suggesting anything, i was just asking if you had tried 8.04 Redbullie  :)
[23:58] <tarelerulz> What is the best midi player out there.  gstream plays say they play it ,but no sound.
[23:58] <DasEi> Ana: my idea is to install once, then (as live works) reconfigure it
[23:59] <niko__> ConstantineXVI, is config-setting-manager??.. no?
[23:59] <Skky> DasEi: doesn't appear to make any difference...I didn't see any MP3 related installs happening, only Java stuff?
[23:59] <heret1c> hello .-)
[23:59] <Omoikane__> insaneinside yeah, I can't find anything.
[23:59] <tzanger> hmm
[23:59] <Redbullie> Din|BSD: Well everything was running fine on 7.10 but I seemed to have gotten some bad display settings now that leaves my screen blank
[23:59] <DasEi> Skky: no further ideas for now, then
[23:59] <[TiZ]> Is it possible to make gnome-panel hide the same way that avant-window-navigator does? e.g., it's covered by maximized windows, and appears when I mouse over it


[08:03] <JokerInDisguise> Hey guys. Is there any resource to learn libunity API using C?
[08:03] <pangolin> #ubuntu-unity might know
[08:04] <JokerInDisguise> ok, thanks.


[13:28] <ernstp> hi there. I started writing some better new features for karmic, maybe someone here finds it interesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/NewUserFeatures


 http://sia.tech/
 This is now an owncloud plugin.
 @AdamOutler, Interesting
 Do you ever wonder if block chain is the largest reverse hashing lookup table ever created?
 @AdamOutler, I am quite sure it became that a few years ago
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbmiHnasGWg
 I saw that on OMGUbuntu about 30 minutes ago, interesting
 I just saw UBports talking about bringing android apps to ubuntu touch
 using this
[18:42] <maxolasersquad> ahoneybun, ++. I'm installing it right now.
 https://plus.google.com/+AlanPope/posts/3vAjfGKACam
 mm hit this at the end: Failed to reload daemon: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1
[19:15] <maxolasersquad> I ran into an issue as well. https://github.com/anbox/anbox/issues/5
 I will just leave this here - https://system76.com/cart/configure/galp2?utm_source=system76&utm_medium=email&utm_term=galago&utm_content=galago_release-preorder-50-off&utm_campaign=newsletter
 you monstor
 *monster
 Why would you post that? Grr
 I would get it but it does not take a charge over Type C
 @KMyers http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/11/15260850/samsung-galaxy-s8-dolphin-emulator-gamecube
 Damn...


[10:42] <bzoltan_> hello trainguards, would you please assign a silo for the UITK landing https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/754 ?
[11:09] <Mirv> bzoltan_: sir yes sir
[11:10] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  thank you sir :)
[11:32] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  I do not get it... why the silo tries to build first the -gles package?  https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-031-1-build/6/console
[11:33] <Mirv> bzoltan_: not sure if robru has changed something regarding the gles logic
[11:34] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  it feels like.. I liked better when i could build the main without the gles
[11:34] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  for the main it says "Created tag 1.3.1740+16.04.20151205.1-0ubuntu1."
[11:34] <Mirv> bzoltan_: it's not first though I think, there's normal UITK first isn't there? but it fails
[11:34] <Mirv> bzoltan_: .1 for main package, .2 for gles
[11:35] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  should the gles +1 the main?
[11:35] <bzoltan_> I use now 1.3.1740+16.04.20151205.1-0ubuntu1
[11:35] <Mirv> bzoltan_: no, I mean it says in the log some reason  tarball for package ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, version 1.3.1740+16.04.20151205.2.
[11:36] <bzoltan_> Mirv: and that is BS -> https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/OTA9_landing_2015-12-05-gles/+merge/279676
[11:36] <Mirv> bzoltan_: maybe it bumps it and you should have it without ".1" or sth... simple guessing, no idea
[11:36] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  I will keep trying few times...
[11:36] <Mirv> debian/rules:23: recipe for target 'get-packaged-orig-source' failed
[11:37] <Mirv> find ~/silos/ubuntu/landing-031 -name ubuntu-ui-toolkit_1.3.1740+16.04.20151205.2.orig.tar.gz -exec \
[11:37] <Mirv> bzoltan_: the thing is, isn't the new logic completely in debian/rules http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/OTA9_landing_2015-12-05-gles/view/head:/debian/rules
[11:38] <Mirv> so I'm not sure why it would do that, unless train bumps the version number indeed before the rules is run. in that case, the lowering (removing ".1") could help
[11:40] <ogra_> suod sync
[11:40] <ogra_> hah
[11:41] <ogra_> (sorry EFOCUS)
[11:41] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  let me hack that rules file :)
[11:41] <bzoltan_> hello ogra_, long time no sea :D
[11:41] <ogra_> hey hey
[11:41] <bzoltan_> ogra_:  how is life on snappy side?
[11:51] <Mirv> ogra_: I thought sync wouldn't need sudo for anything
[11:52] <Mirv> but that's just assumption based on that it has seemed to work
[11:52] <ogra_> it used to at some point ... old habits die hard :)
[11:53] <ogra_> bzoltan_, it is snappy indeed :)
[11:53] <ogra_> (and very busy)
[11:54] <bzoltan_> ogra_:  happy busy or pressure busy ... but why do I ask when I know
[11:54] <ogra_> heh, both :)
[12:03] <Mirv> bzoltan_: fsck, it still takes it from the changelog
[12:03] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  it seems so
[12:04] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  where does it get the 1.3.1740+16.04.20151205.2 from?
[12:04] <Mirv> bzoltan_: you can add more hacks always
[12:04] <Mirv> bzoltan_: probably train bumps the changelog
[12:04] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  give me hint
[12:04] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  I remove the .1
[12:04] <Mirv> bzoltan_: sed -i "1 s/20151205.2/20151205.1/" debian/changelog
[12:05] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  wow... editing the changelog from thje rules??? Duuuuude, that is a a new level
[12:58] <Mirv> bzoltan_: out of ideas... :(
[13:02] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  strange problem
[14:26] <Mirv> bzoltan_: well one idea was that you change the MP:s changelog entry version to be without the ".1" in case the train is +1:ing it. then the normal date code would become .1.
[14:27] <Mirv> but it might be also something completely elese
[15:25] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  yes, that is the next try
[16:45] <Mirv> bzoltan_: congrats on starting a build just in time before train apparently went down or something.. getting service unavailable
[16:56] <bzoltan_> Mirv:  I was feeling lucky :) and your last idea was the fix.. no postfix is needed in the gles version


[13:55] <exarkun> Hey, what the hell did Baronos do to this ticket, and how can I keep him away from the rest of my tickets?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/twisted-trac-integration/+bug/898804
[14:14] <dobey> exarkun: looks like he accidentally changed the status, then changed it back is all
[14:27] <exarkun> And I should be happy with that?
[14:48] <nailora> if he should not be allowed to change it in the first place then you are officially allowed to be unhappy. if he was granted the rights at some point, what did you expect to happen?
[14:49] <exarkun> I don't know who he is.  He doesn't have any particular permissions on the project.
[14:50] <nailora> than maybe everyone is allowed to set bug states in your project when what you really want is to restrict that ability.
[14:51] <exarkun> Great.  How can I do that?
[14:52] <exarkun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyflakes/+configure-bugtracker is the only obvious place that such might configuration might be done, but there are no options for controlling this on that page.
[14:59] <nailora> sorry, I do not know if/how you can restrict Bug access in that way. Some of the Launchpad maintainers around here should be able to tell you.
[18:36] <maxb> exarkun: all users can edit bug status (except for setting restricted statuses - Triaged and Won't Fix)
[18:37] <maxb> exarkun: Your anger seems disproportionate for a simple mis-click, that was fixed by the user themself only 7 seconds later
[19:09] <george_e> This build has failed: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/86534973/buildlog.txt.gz
[19:09] <george_e> ...but I can't figure out why.
[19:09] <george_e> There's a line "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: yaml-cpp-dev (>= 0.2.7) but it is not going to be installed."
[19:10] <george_e> But why isn't it going to install yaml-cpp-dev?
[19:10] <george_e> That package exists in the destination PPA for this build.
[19:14] <Ampelbein> george_e: What is the ppa's url?
[19:15] <george_e> Ampelbein: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/juju-gui
[19:17] <Ampelbein> george_e: Ok, and where is the sourcepackage you are trying to build?
[19:17] <george_e> Ampelbein: This is the recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+recipe/juju-gui-daily
[19:17] <george_e> This is the base branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/trunk
[19:27] <Ampelbein> george_e: Hmm, I could be on the wrong track but: 'dpkg --compare-versions 0.2.7-0~1~precise1 ge 0.2.7' 'echo $?' returns 1 so the version requirement isn't satisfied.
[19:27] <george_e> That's... odd.
[19:28] <george_e> What happens if you add the '-0' to the left-hand side.
[19:29] <Ampelbein> george_e: ?
[19:29] <maxb> I think the subtlety here is that 0.2.7 is actually semantically equivalent to 0.2.7-0 as far as the version comparison is concerned
[19:29] <maxb> this is one reason to avoid the overuse of ~ as a generic separator
[19:30] <Ampelbein> maxb: Yes, sure looks that way.
[19:30] <george_e> Ampelbein: I meant to say "what happens if you compare '0.2.7-0~1~precise1 ge 0.2.7-0'"?
[19:30] <Ampelbein> george_e: So you meant the right side ;-) Result is the same, so maxb's suggestion seems to be correct.
[19:31] <george_e> Sorry, my bad.
[19:32] <Ampelbein> george_e: I suggest a versioning like 0.2.7-1~precise1 in yaml-cpp
[19:32] <george_e> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/juju-gui-debian/view/head:/control
[19:32] <george_e> Ooops. Wrong file.
[19:32] <george_e> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/juju-gui/juju-gui-debian/view/head:/changelog
[19:33] <maxb> 0.2.7-1~precise1 is misleading. it hints at being a derivation of 0.2.7-1
[19:33] <george_e> Sorry guys... that was still the wrong link.
[19:33] <george_e> THIS is the right one:
[19:33] <george_e> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/yaml-cpp/yaml-cpp-debian/view/head:/changelog
[19:34] <george_e> You can see I've specified the version as '0.2.7' in the debain/changelog file.
[19:34] <Ampelbein> george_e: Or you use a version of 0.2.7~ in the Depends: of juju-gui
[19:34] <george_e> Maybe I should ask a question over on #ubuntu-packaging.
[19:34] <Ampelbein> george_e: yes, 0.2.7 is treated as 0.2.7-0 and 0.2.7-0~1~precise1 doesn't fulfill that requirement.
[19:35] <george_e> Well, thanks for finding the source of the problem.
[19:35] <george_e> That one was really confusing me.
[19:35] <maxb> I'd suggest a version like 0.2.7-0george1~precise1
[19:35] <Kiall> "0.2.7-0~1" is pre "0.2.7-0" .. and "0.2.7-0+1" is post "0.2.7-0"
[19:38] <george_e> I can't change the versioning - that is done automatically by the daily build system.
[19:38] <george_e> *versioning of the yaml-cpp-dev package
[19:38] <maxb> that's not correct
[19:38] <george_e> It isn't?
[19:38]  * george_e suddenly remembers...
[19:38] <maxb> only the ~precise1 suffix is enforced
[19:39] <george_e> I totally forgot that the version number is set by the recipe script.
[19:39] <george_e> This means I need to change the recipe script for yaml-cpp, though, right?
[19:39] <maxb> yes
[19:40] <george_e> ...then I'll need to wait for another build :P
[19:40] <maxb> {debupstream}-0bzr{revno} would make it clear that the number is a bzr revno
[19:40] <george_e> Do I need the '0' before 'bzr'?
[19:42] <maxb> it would be wise
[19:43] <maxb> -bzr would be considered a greater version than -999999999999999999999999
[19:46] <jelmer> {debupstream}+bzr{revno} seems like a more commonly used way of writing that
[19:46] <jelmer> hi maxb, btw :)
[19:46] <george_e> jelmer: So I should use that format?
[19:47] <jelmer> george_e: it's up to you, there is no mandatory format
[19:47] <george_e> Well, I'm just wondering if that is the precedent.
[19:47] <maxb> {debupstream}+bzr{revno} sounds like it's a bzr branch of the upstream, rather than a bzr branch of the packaging
[19:47] <jelmer> oh, sorry, I missed a bit of context there
[19:47] <maxb> Best to have a - in there clearly separating the upstream and packaging versions
[19:49] <jelmer> maxb: then again, that suggests a non-native package.. and the recipe will produce a native version
[19:50] <george_e> So... which format should I use?
[19:50] <george_e> '-' or '+'?
[19:52] <exarkun> maxb: You're right.
[19:52] <exarkun> maxb: Initially I was confused by the rendering of the pair of changes.  That probably contributed to my reaction.
[19:52] <george_e> Someone on #ubuntu-packaging suggested '{debupstream}+bzr{revno}-0ubuntu0+{revno:packaging}'.
[19:53] <george_e> I like the idea of having the revision number of the packaging in there.
[19:53] <george_e> That way I can trigger a build if all I change is the packaging.
[19:53] <maxb> that would be appropriate if you had an upstream and a packaging branch involved
[19:53] <maxb> do you?
[19:53] <george_e> Yes.
[19:54] <exarkun> maxb: It might be nice if there was an undo button to fix that kind of mistake.
[19:54] <george_e> I own two branches: the upstream source branch and the packaging branch.
[19:54] <george_e> I am only the author of the packaging branch, but I own both.
[20:01] <jelmer> george_e: it doesn't really matter who owns the branches, anybody can create a recipe for them.
[20:01] <george_e> Right.
[21:47] <penguin42> lp seems to be timing out a lot at the moment (e.g. oops bcb32dd6feaa700af7b9b344107c16be )
[21:48] <penguin42> I am in the dynamic bug listing trial if that makes any difference
[21:52] <george_e> LP seems to be down.
[21:52] <george_e> Up, never mind.
[21:52] <george_e> Some of the pages are loading.
[21:52] <george_e> Some aren't though.
[21:52] <george_e> It seems intermittent.
[21:54] <penguin42> yeh mostly down with an occasional bit of up
[21:55] <george_e> I've only had one page load properly in the last 5 minutes.
[21:56] <george_e> Other people are reporting that it's loading for them.
[21:56] <george_e> I wonder it this is a localized issue.
[21:59] <george_e> I also can't connect to some other websites.
[21:59] <george_e> Maybe some network infrastructure went down.
[22:01] <george_e> Launchpad is loading again.


[00:45] <Lns> Java 2 / Swing....possible in Edubuntu/Ubuntu? If so, what do I need to install? I already have sun-java6-bin/sun-java6-jre/sun-java6-plugin 6-06-0ubuntu1 installed.
[00:45] <LaserJock> Lns: this is really not the channel to get help with that :-)
[00:46] <LaserJock> Lns: I'd ask #ubuntu-java
[00:46] <Lns> fine! =p oh didn't know that chan existed..thx
[03:11] <cilkay> Hello. Are there any issues with installing KDE on Edubuntu?
[03:12] <cilkay> I've installed KDE on Ubuntu and aside from how things weren't quite as polished as on Kubuntu, it was fine.
[23:16] <Guest31881> q


[02:32] <rlameiro> ScottL: are you there?
[02:33] <rlameiro> http://realtimeconfigquickscan.googlecode.com/hg/realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl
[02:33] <rlameiro> a script on the arch linux
[02:34] <rlameiro> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pro_Audio
[02:34] <rlameiro> will test the computer setup for the audio pro settings
[03:35] <ScottL> rlameiro, that's great information, i'll dig into it more tomorrow
[03:36] <rlameiro> ScottL: It could be added to some kind of gui test program to the user
[03:36] <rlameiro> to help to settup the system
[03:36] <rlameiro> something atached to the ubuntustudio controls maybe
[11:36] <ScottL> abogani, I did not explain my intentions completely regarding the kernel testing
[11:36] <ScottL> I thought that given standardized jack settings the lowest stable latency achieved could be recorded
[11:37] <ScottL> along with hardware specifications
[11:37] <ScottL> additionally I was wondering if cyclictest data would be useful as well
[11:38] <ScottL> if this is the case then I would be happy to create documentation that explain to users how to run the test and document the results
[11:40] <ScottL> hopefully lowest latency and hardware information coupled with cyclictest data would allow for correlations to be discovered
[12:47] <abogani> ScottL: It is really hard find correlations when 1) hardware is different 2) workload isn't perfectly reproducible 3) how and for what people use computers change from person to person so what workload we should take as "reference"? ScottL: I find your intentions very laudable _but_ I prefer that you use your time/energy/mental power for other things because I'm not sure that these (record spec and cyclictest results) c
[12:47] <abogani> ould be useful in same way.
[17:48] <abogani> Anyone could list to me packages (related to kernel) that require attention for UbuntuStudio? rtkit? irqbalance? rtirq-init?
[22:19] <ScottL> troy_s, I got my Visual Literacy and Design Basics Index books today, i'm looking forward to starting reading them tonight
[22:19] <troy_s> ScottL: Wow.
[22:19] <troy_s> ScottL: I think you will enjoy the Visual Literacy book.
[22:20] <troy_s> ScottL: The Krause is a good read too - he really has some of the core stuff pushed into his work. The simple elaboration of "Who is it for and what does it need to do"
[22:20] <troy_s> ScottL: If you enjoy them, there is a long line of good reading there.


[02:55] <darkxst> atrus, might be this https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689106
[02:56] <darkxst> however I don't recall that causing seg faults, however check your session logs
[08:51] <darkxst> ricotz, last gnome-shell snapshot is very broken on overview/workspaces on multiple monitors
[08:51] <darkxst> can you re-do, git master seems fine
[10:41] <ricotz> darkxst, done
[20:19] <darkxst> ricotz, strangely, its still broken
[20:27] <darkxst> ricotz, hmm, why the hack.patch in mutter?
[20:41] <ricotz> darkxst, sorry, this patch wasnt supposed to be uploaded
[20:49] <darkxst> ricotz, ok, anyway that was the culprit
[21:07] <jbicha> do you guys think we should move most of gnome 3.7.90 from the staging ppa to the regular gnome3 ppa?
[21:16] <ricotz> jbicha, seems fine with me
[21:24] <jbicha> we don't want terminal, control-center, settings-daemon since those have regressions
[21:26] <jbicha> do we need EDS? and does Evolution need a rebuild or do we just need the new version?
[21:26] <jbicha> $ evolution
[21:26] <jbicha> evolution: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/evolution/3.6/libemiscwidgets.so.0: undefined symbol: e_cal_client_source_type_enum_get_type
[21:30] <darkxst> jbicha, yes, sounds good.
[21:31] <darkxst> probably gnome-shell will work with 3.6 eds, but havent tried it
[21:35] <darkxst> not sure about evolution
[21:35] <ricotz> empathy, folks needs the new eds
[21:35] <ricotz> eds is a bit broken due -dev deps and broken pkg-config files
[21:38] <jbicha> ok, we can hold off on empathy and folks
[22:44] <jbicha> gnome-shell doesn't want to build with raring's eds 3.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580679/
[23:05] <jbicha> I wonder if eds is broken in raring...
[23:36] <ricotz> jbicha, 00-no-disable-deprecated.patch in g-s of ricotz/testing takes care of that


[03:06] <LuckyMan> so today is the big day!
[09:14] <Dennis59> so.. today is the day, yes?
[09:16] <kc2bez> Dennis59: Yes, today is the scheduled release day.
[13:36] <aurolac> eta on release ?
[13:59] <aurolac> this looks final https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/23.10/release/
[14:01] <jStefan> you shouldn't post links until it's officially announced. An image could still be re-uploaded later in the day
[14:02] <aurolac> this is true hoever the checksum points otherwise
[14:02] <aurolac> s/hoever/however
[14:04] <jStefan> the checksum that ALSO hasn't been officially announced? Those would be updated together
[14:05] <jStefan> What I'm trying to say is, that IS an image of mantic, but it may or may not be the final release image.
[14:32] <tomreyn> you can tell the release is done by looking for an email saying so here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-September/thread.html
[14:39] <Eickmeyer> It'd really be something showing up in the October threads which don't appear yet: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[14:42] <Dennis53> is that the only source we can watch?
[14:46] <tomreyn> Thanks, Eickmeyer, you're right, there, of course (I just got up, still dizzy).
[14:46] <tomreyn> Dennis53: you can also subscribe to this announcement mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[14:48] <tomreyn> (it can take a few hours for those thousands of emails to get distributed, though)
[14:52] <Eickmeyer> Mirrors are all syncing now, so release is in the final stages.
[14:53] <aurolac> usually its 4pm approx GMT time
[14:53] <aurolac> or thereabouts
[14:56] <Eickmeyer> aurolac: Not true. It's ready when it's ready. (I say as being Ubuntu Studio's lead for the past 5 years).
[14:57] <aurolac> dunno dude, last 19 years its been post 4 pm :P
[14:58] <aurolac> but there are always exceptions
[15:00]  * Eickmeyer doesn't know why people argue with him every six months when it's literally his job to know
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> I will concede that it's likely to be appx 4pm GMT as that's the trend right now as I watch the progress.
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> But nobody should ever estimate an exact time.
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> 22.10 didn't happen until 19:13 UTC
[15:28] <guiverc> there has been tons of variation in timing since I've been posting releases to fridge (since 2017)... I can't start until ML post is out, and ML time varies significantly
[15:55] <LuckyMan> will the new store replace the old one when someone upgrades?
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[15:57]  * Eickmeyer reported the bug when it wasn't happening to make sure it happens, and that got fixed
[16:08] <jStefan> is there a way to always run an experimental release of ubuntu without ever switching the release name? afaik debian could do it
[16:10] <tomreyn> There's no equivalent to 'Debian Sid' in Ubuntu land. Ubuntu assigns a release name to the future release shortly after the previous release.
[16:12] <jStefan> i was given this answer in the release party channel: <luna-> jStefan: just changes sources.lst to devel: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> jStefan: All that does it move you to the "next" archive automatically. There is no equivalent of "sid".
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> That said, the "next" isn't open yet, so at this point it does nothing.
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> Also makes it incredibly difficult to add PPAs.