[14:06] <inti> :( oh no ... thats a hard setback ... and puts me in a little bit of trouble
[14:06] <oiiiii> okay thanks guys.!
[14:07] <k1l> gapegooner: MonkeyDust with the developer upgrade the LTS upgrade works. itsjust not official so far
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: if the routing means you cannot reach the other system then the traffic will never get through, you may need to remove some of the published routes once they are added
[14:07] <gapegooner> Guys I'm getting an error trying to update from live usb: "Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi): SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and SCSI2 (0,0,0),partition #1 (sdb).Please correct this by changing mount points.". Any suggestions on what I can do?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> did I just read the word "wubi"?
[14:07] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: Ok so maybe from cmd line I have to add new route is what your saying if Cisco Anyconnect doesnt let me add them in the config?
[14:08] <basketball> was ubuntu the first company to come up with converge
[14:08] <DexterF> hi
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> basketball  better aks in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:09] <cfhowlett> gapegoo wubi is the LAST thing method you should be using.  it was ONLY ever meant for testing - NOT for long-ter.m installation.  consider your options
[14:09] <DexterF> trying to install ubuntu on an old Fujitsu laptop, has Via Unichrome S3 graphics, comes up all garbled, barely readable. X runs but is barely usable for installation, let alone desktop use
[14:09] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: i'm not using wubi, I'm booted in ubuntu 14.04 liveusb
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> basketball  and ubuntu is a product, canonical is the company behin it
[14:09] <DexterF> now, is there a fallback?
[14:10] <basketball> MonkeyDust,  so yes
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> basketball  yes to what?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|DexterF
[14:10] <MaxFrames> how do I disable the username listing in the logon screen? and leave only the username text box in place?
[14:10] <basketball> it was the first company
[14:10] <Goutham> Hello
[14:10] <Krishnamurti> boys,which tool do you like to download ed2k resouce?
[14:10] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: i'm just trying to upgrade my 13.10 ubuntu
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> basketball  don't know, but type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and azsk there
[14:11] <cfhowlett> gapegooner reading ...
[14:11] <Goutham> Is it possible to install Ubuntu in a USB Drive itself so that I can carry it anywhere?
[14:11] <jozefk> Goutham, yes
[14:11] <gapegooner> Goutham: yes
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  it's called a !persistent usb installation
[14:11] <junixbr> hi there
[14:12] <Goutham> jozefk: The problem is my Hard Drive is broken and I am going on a 10 day tour tmrw.
[14:12] <Goutham> ;s
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !uefi|gapegooner I suspect this is a UEFI issue, but I've no experience to advise you.
[14:12] <Goutham> So I have a USB stick with ISO extracted into it
[14:12] <jozefk> Goutham, ok. install it on USB and enjoy your tour :)
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Goutham "extracted" is not the way to install to usb
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[14:12] <junixbr> I'm trying to generate a ubuntu customized cd
[14:13] <gapegooner> cfhowlett: If I understand the error correctly, I could just somehow remove mount point for sda1 (windows efi partition).  I don't know how though.
[14:13] <junixbr> but in the documentation has: apt-get install --yes discover...
[14:13] <Fly80> is it enough a 1.9 GB pen drive to save ubuntu installer?
[14:13] <junixbr> E: Unable to locate package discover
[14:13] <Goutham> And I am using the Live Ubuntu to come here. Is it possible to use it to install ubuntu in itself. I dont have any other pen drive or external drives
[14:13] <jozefk> Fly80, enough
[14:14] <jozefk> Goutham, yes it is enough, if you boot the system from anywhere else except from that USB where you want to install it on
[14:14] <gapegooner> Goutham: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, those tools offer persistence file option.
[14:14] <Goutham> ty. Will check it out
[14:14] <Goutham> WIll ask if I need any other help ^_^
[14:15] <Bluewolf> Hi all, how does one permission to move a file onto the main filesystem?
[14:15] <junixbr> is there this package: discover ???
[14:15] <jozefk> Bluewolf, sudo mv
[14:16] <junixbr> in documentation, they said: "Before Maverick, discover named to discover1. Adjust the preceding lines accordingly."
[14:16] <junixbr> but is not my case
[14:16] <inti> so now i download ubuntu 14.04 ... and that i have to install and in that process my files from the ubuntu win-install get lost?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> !find discover
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !info discover
[14:17] <k1l> inti: yes
[14:17] <Bluewolf> jozefk, Ah am I to add in more other than sudo mv?
[14:17] <k1l> inti: that is one of the big disadvantages of wubi
[14:17] <junixbr> ow.. is universe
[14:17] <junixbr> MonkeyDust, ubottu thank you
[14:17] <jozefk> Bluewolf, yes, of course. the path of the file/directory and the path of the destination
[14:17] <k1l> inti: you can put the files you need on the windows partition and copy them from there after the reinstall
[14:17] <DexterF> cfhowlett: not better :(
[14:18] <k1l> inti: support please only in here, thanks
[14:18] <cfhowlett> DexterF ????
[14:18] <DexterF> cfhowlett: nomodeset
[14:18] <cfhowlett> DexterF ah. sorry, don't know what else to suggest.  re-state your issue for the channel.
[14:19] <Fly80> are the display touch of Dell XPS 15 supported by Ubuntu? should I activate something when I'm going to install ubuntu  14.04 on it?
[14:20] <DexterF> garbled screen output on a VIA UniChrome S3 video chip on a laptop, even when booting with nomodeset. 14.04 32b live
[14:20]  * jozefk got to go for meeting now
[14:20] <DexterF> there's some hint on UniChrome in the wiki regarding xorg.conf, but this is live and I'd like to see it working before installing
[14:20] <inti> yeah i did so already with my windows files ... the hdd has serious flaws and does not work properply anymore
[14:21] <cfhowlett> inti if WINDOWS is breaking then your wubi is ALSO guaranteed to break.
[14:21] <m0e42> qexit
[14:28] <Fanthomas90> hi!
[14:28] <Fanthomas90> what could be the meaning of this line: eval su - "git" -c $(echo \")$0 "$@"$(echo \"); exit; ?
[14:28] <DexterF> cfhowlett: vesa driver works. I'll stik to that, it's gonna be a typewriter mostly anyway
[14:29] <cfhowlett> DexterF you got it going?  good work!
[14:29] <DexterF> welll, reverting to vesa is more shennanigans than solving it, but it'll do ;)
[14:31] <bezaban> yay, got the upgrade process from dapper to hardy working
[14:34] <mmazing> is there a way to move window controls to the right in unity for 14.04 yet?
[14:34] <gregor3000> what is this? : sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:34]  * gregor3000 confused
[14:35] <mmazing> try "apt-add-repository"
[14:35] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu. We have noticed this before. my boss and I we're using the same samba share. He just doesn't see all the files I see, but I see all he sees/creates.
[14:35] <cfhowlett> gregor3000 sudo - no colon
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  find tweak-tool in the repos
[14:35] <milosn> hmmm quick question ... can ubuntu desktop install be instructed to install only the minimal set of packages?
[14:35] <yossarianuk> software-properties-common:
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: restart the service on the server, or reboot it
[14:35] <k1l> mar77i: look at file permissions
[14:35] <yossarianuk> gregor3000>: install software-properties-common:
[14:35] <milosn> like i dont want anything, ill add it myself later
[14:36] <mmazing> MonkeyDust: i've tried tweak-tool with no luck, it just does nothing :(
[14:36] <yossarianuk> gregor3000: install software-properties-common
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> gregor3000: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  then !ccsm maybe
[14:36] <milosn> also if it cant, can server install do encrypted partition installs?
[14:36] <Artemis3> milosn, i suggest you do that with the ubuntu-minimal iso (use command line option)
[14:36] <milosn> Artemis3: whats the command line option?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> milosn: why would you want to?
[14:37] <mar77i> he connects with nautilus' connection thingy. I had looked at file permissions before, but I couldn't determine why one file would be displayed and another wouldn't
[14:37] <mmazing> MonkeyDust ccsm also no dice - apparantly the unity developers made a "design decision" and restricted the window controls to be on the left
[14:37] <Artemis3> milosn, a choice in grub to launch the installer, you could just use expert mode using priority=low
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  yes, like in mac OS, guess you have to get used to it
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> gregor3000: no need to pastebin, its a single line of output....
[14:38] <Artemis3> milosn, when you boot from the ubuntu-minimal iso you will see a menu with choices, and one of them says command line only install or such
[14:38] <milosn> Artemis3: ah, so i pass priority=low on minimal iso boot up? and thats expert mode?
[14:38] <mar77i> oh
[14:38] <k1l> mar77i: look at the NAS with "ls -al" and see fi the files got other owner and group and the file permissions
[14:38] <milosn> Artemis3: ok, so i dont need to type anything ... its an option
[14:38] <Artemis3> milosn, if you prefer expert mode yes, its the same as debian installer
[14:38] <lord4163> How do I enable mod_rewrite in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:38] <milosn> excellent ... Artemis3 tell me one more thing ... i can encrypt partitions, same like in debian?
[14:39] <mar77i> k1l: I found a discrepancy that matches the subset of files he sees (o+r)
[14:39] <mmazing> pretty terrible "design decision" in my opinion, seems to go against the ideals of linux in general to restrict people to a certain layout
[14:39] <mmazing> i suppose i could switch to gnome
[14:39] <lord4163> found it
[14:39] <Artemis3> milosn, yes the installer will allow you to set it up at some point, try for yourself the iso is a mere 20mb download
[14:40] <milosn> Artemis3: cool, i might play a bit at home in a VM ...
[14:40] <milosn> and then try on real HW
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mmazing  yes, gnome-shell has the buttons on the right --  lxde, too, i think
[14:40]  * milosn needs updated OS for workstation at work
[14:40] <milosn> i got debian7 atm
[14:40] <lord4163> milosn: me too still on 12.04 :(
[14:41] <Artemis3> milosn, try it in a virtual machine, i use qemu (with aqemu) for tests :)
[14:41] <milosn> lord4163: yeah, just i cant stand DEs ... fluxbox rules
[14:41] <milosn> :)
[14:41] <milosn> and 20 workspaces
[14:41] <milosn> :D
[14:41] <lord4163> milosn: haha maybe go arch? :)
[14:41] <milosn> lord4163: i run arch at home, its fun but to high maintinance for me ... at work i dont wanna think about updates
[14:42] <mmazing> MonkeyDust: not only that but they allow you to pick where the hell you want them, if you like them on the left
[14:42] <milosn> just wanna update, and ... forget
[14:42] <milosn> :)
[14:42] <Artemis3> milosn, the minimal install can leave you a bare bones command line system, you could later apt-get install just what you like
[14:42] <milosn> ubuntu LTS and debian stable are good choices
[14:42] <milosn> Artemis3: yeah thats what i am after :)
[14:42] <rypervenche> milosn: Debian stable is good for that.
[14:43] <cHarNe2_> i run arch on everything exept 1 laptop where i run manjaro. now im installing ubuntu for my brother
[14:43] <milosn> rypervenche: yes, but please give me firefox with google search ...
[14:43] <milosn> i got some firefox from some repo ... they striped out google search
[14:43] <milosn> :)
[14:43] <milosn> i dont care for duck go go
[14:43] <milosn> i hope ubuntu dont do the same?
[14:43] <Artemis3> milosn, in debian you have to add a repository if all you want is firefox, and the search is simply added afterwards
[14:44] <milosn> Artemis3: i still didnt figure out how to do it
[14:44] <milosn> :D
[14:44] <Artemis3> milosn, no, the one in ubuntu is the same as in other platforms
[14:44] <mar77i> I'm not supposed to look at the server.... it's one of those broken linuxes
[14:44] <milosn> excellent
[14:45] <Artemis3> milosn, in ubuntu firefox is included in the default repositories, you don't need to add it manually
[14:45] <milosn> cool
[14:46] <junixbr> why pidgin is crashing on 14.04?
[14:48] <trijntje> junixbr: start it from the terminal to see the error messages
[14:49] <junixbr> trijntje, ok, let do this
[14:49] <junixbr> let me*
[14:50] <hansford> Having problem  with Firefox after update.....can't see the url  (I get a one long bar where the address is
[14:51] <asturel> is there a way to have more than 4 virtual desktops?
[14:52] <trijntje> !cssm | asturel
[14:52] <Rory> asturel: Install the package "unity-tweak-tool" I believe you can have up to 64
[14:52] <asturel> oh
[14:52] <asturel> and another issue, often my apps just didnt show on the desktop
[14:52] <sensae> After installing Ubuntu 14.04 the network menu is missing from the menu bar. I haven't been able to figure out any way to get it back.
[14:52] <asturel> when iim in the preview mode or whats that
[14:52] <asturel> just after i click to it and reopen preview
[14:53] <asturel> is that a feature or bug
[14:53] <asturel> i see only the application corner only
[14:53] <Bluewolf> Anyone here know much about playing around with Ubuntu themes who I could chat to?
[14:54] <ChrisFR06> Hi, anyone here ?
[14:54] <cer> Hi everybody! I need to know how to format an edternal disk so that it is accessible from Mac, Linux and even Windows
[14:54] <cfhowlett> ChrisFR06 only a few thousand.  ask your #ubuntu questions
[14:54] <sta7ic> asturel: in unity there is unity-tweak-tool or something like that where u can set higher # of virtual desktops, also compiz has setting if you dont use unity
[14:54] <ChrisFR06> :p
[14:54] <cer> not FAT, I need somehting better, that allows for larger files and better time stamp
[14:54] <sta7ic> cer: ntfs?
[14:54] <sensae> cer: I don't think there are any other options, Mac won't write to ntfs AFAIK
[14:55] <MnCC> hi any network specialists in ?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> MnCC  ask your question and wait
[14:55] <ChrisFR06> I have created a theme for Ubuntu to remove the Unity boxes from the launcher (it only works on 14.04 LTS or higher) so could anyone try my theme out and say me if it works ?? :/
[14:55] <mheinke> i loves me some unity these days. im getting really dependant on the dash
[14:55] <asturel> sta7ic i already increased it via unity tweak tool
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: make a VM and test there
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> already did
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> it works
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> but on my fathers pc not :(
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: then why does a user have to test?
[14:56] <cer> sensae: ouch .... I was serisoulsy hoping something better than NTFS, but if even NTFS is not supported by MAC ....
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> not working on the pc of my father (ubuntu 14.14)
[14:56] <cer> sensae: sta7ic: any alternatives? xfs? jfs? zfs?
[14:56] <MnCC> network fails after increasing network traffic, goes for wired and wireless, im on 12.04lts , any ideas ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: 14.04 ;)
[14:56] <ChrisFR06> yes sorry :p
[14:56] <sta7ic> cer: i dont think windows is going to support any of those
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisFR06: 14.14 will never exist :)
[14:57] <ChrisFR06> So, who wants to test my theme xD :(
[14:57] <ChrisFR06> Ok whatever, I'll try somewere else :/
[14:57] <sta7ic> ChrisFR06: no one
[14:57] <sensae> cer: Mac will read NTFS, it just won't write. Unfortunately you're stuck to fat32 if you want complete platform-agnostic support
[14:58] <cer> sensae: oh no .... the crappiest file system on the planet .... no ext2/3/4 support?
[14:58] <tado> hey folks. need some help here! i had a problem with bluetooth and was suggested to reset bios to default. the result is that now at boot the screen goes black and appears the message "Operating system not found". Can anyone help me to fix it?
[14:58] <sensae> cer: The other option is sticking an ext4/xfs/bfs disk on a file server and access over NFS/samba. Then you'll get a nice filesystem and access from any system.
[14:58] <sensae> cer: Windows won't read/write ext4
[14:58] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: i pasted u pastebin of my route table if you could take a look. trying to figure out what to delete to be able to ping local network/etc
[14:58] <Lati> MELI 97
[14:58] <Meli97> lautiiiiiii
[14:58] <Lati> SADASDAS
[14:58] <Lati> SFDASFG
[14:58] <Meli97> hsdfchswhcvfuvuhv
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: i'd ask in ##networking
[14:59] <Meli97> como estas?????????
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> Other question ? is it possible that newer kernels make some pcs slower ? I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 so kernel 3.13 and it was SUPER LAGGY so I had to install kernel 3.12 and now I'm running smoothly, is this normal?????
[14:59] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[14:59] <Meli97> gigcugucgeucv
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: not without 3rd party software, but then again it is Windows
[14:59] <Meli97> sddasdasdasdasdsdasdsadsddsdsdd !!!!!
[14:59] <Meli97> uhuvhuhrvuhrvhur
[14:59] <Lati> HELLO GOD MORRNING
[14:59] <Meli97> hrvrgvhbvubhfrhhhjh
[14:59] <trijntje> ChrisFR06: shouldn't happen, best file a bug about it 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[14:59] <DJones> Meli97: Please stop that
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> shutupshutupshutup
[14:59] <ChrisFR06> ok thanks :)
[14:59] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae:not even using ParagonExtFS
[14:59] <sensae> ActionParsnip: Is that stable/reliable software though? Last I looked it was very experimental
[14:59] <Meli97> hello
[14:59] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae? ?
[15:00] <trijntje> milosn:  please stop spamming the channel
[15:00] <Meli97> in fine!!
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Meli97  hit alt-f4 for more fun
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> sensae: doubt it, not used it though as I don t use Windows
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[15:00] <sensae> cer: A google shows that Mac won't read/write ext4 either, though Paragon might work for Windows
[15:01] <fabi> llnjdjqdwe
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> cer: sensae: if you want to share data between Ubuntu and Windows, make a central NTFS partition. This will accommodate the shortcomings in Windows
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> fabi  you too: alt-f4
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> uname -r
[15:01] <ChrisFR06> oh sorry wrong windows..
[15:01] <fabi> meli
[15:01] <sensae> cer: Actually, you could get Paragon's NTFS for Mac software, and then use NTFS on all three systems
[15:01] <sensae> cer: I haven't used their software though
[15:02] <cer> ActionParsnip: I wanted to make sure also Mac was supported. The only thing I found using google was actually Paragon.
[15:02] <Talez> hey, i "accidently" installed unity on my ubuntu in virtualbox. now it only boots directly into the graphical unity-login-prompt but i can't log in there (failed to start session). is there any way to get into the terminal from here? (disclaimer: i'm completely new to linux)
[15:02] <milosn> trijntje: aye?
[15:03] <daftykins> Talez: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1
[15:03] <Guest46856> could you please tell alternative to steam
[15:03] <cer> ActionParsnip: would you go for NTFS or ext4?
[15:03] <trijntje> Talez: ctrl + alt + f7 should get you back to graphical environment
[15:03] <Talez> daftykins: ahhh thanks, that shortcut will instantly be written down in my linux-stuff.txt :D
[15:03] <cer> ActionParsnip: sensae: it seems that Paragon for NTFS on Mac doe snot work too well.
[15:03] <Talez> awesome thank you guys
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> cer: NTFS can be written and read by both
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> cer: no idea about Mac. They are of no interest to me
[15:05] <sensae> ActionParsnip: NTFS can only be read by Mac without a third party driver
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> sensae: ok
[15:06] <cer> sensae: do you mean *with*?
[15:06] <iris> hELLO
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> cer: what do you use Mac for?
[15:07] <sandy_> f
[15:07] <Talez> sigh ok i just broke everything... back to sqare one.
[15:07] <cer> a friend uses it for photo editing, so that we can use the external disk to do editing on both machines
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> cer: you can edit photos in any OS......
[15:08] <sensae> cer: Well, yeah. It looks like your options are paragon for ntfs, paragon/something else for ext4 for mac and windows, or fat32. It's unfortunate but you'll run into shortcomings in one of the three OSes with other filesystems
[15:08] <sandy_> Can we creae disc in linux like we have in windows...?
[15:08] <cer> sensae: ActionParsnip: not if you cannot access them and save them because they are stored in a filesystem that the OS cannot access
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> cer: then why use Mac, when other OSes can do the job
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> personally I dont get why Mac even exists now, its not special in any way
[15:09] <sensae> cer: I think he meant why not do all your photo editing in Ubuntu/Windows/your preference?
[15:09] <cer> ActionParsnip: I just told you, my friend, with whom we do coediting, uses Mac
[15:09] <Artemis3> set up a file server with any old machine or use your decent os machine as file storage serving using something like sftp or nfs
[15:09] <sensae> cer: Do you have RAWs bigger than 4gb?
[15:10] <cer> sensae: yes, I have a couple > 20Gb
[15:11] <sandy_> unopaste: can we create disc in linux
[15:11] <sensae> cer: Is this the final place the images get stored, or just temporary storage while you edit?
[15:12] <cer> sensae: it is for two separate places, one the final the other the mirror
[15:12] <justpie_work> Hey all. I tried to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 14.04 on a new disk. It installs fine but when i try to boot up off the disc it stays at a black screen with a flashing cursor. Does anyone have any ideas on what may cause it?
[15:13] <magnum54> justpie: clean the cd
[15:14] <trijntje> justpie_work: hold shift during boot and check the cd for defects
[15:14] <sensae> cer: If you don't mind some terminal tweaking, you can force the Mac to mount the NTFS partition read-write. It just won't by default in the GUI
[15:14] <sensae> cer: http://learnaholic.me/2013/11/11/enable-ntfs-write-on-mac-os-x-mavericks/
[15:15] <justpie_work> trijntje : I tried installing off of a USB and a CD. Both caused the same thing. maybe it was an issue w/ the iso?
[15:15] <cer> sensae: thanks very useful!!
[15:16] <trijntje> justpie_work: could be, but checking the cd for defects will catch that. It could also be that the pc is too old for ubuntu, in that case xubuntu should boot since it has a non-pae kernel
[15:16] <justpie_work> trijntje : Is 6 years old considered too old? :-p
[15:16] <sensae> cer: np. GL, I hope it works out.
[15:17] <trijntje> justpie_work: no, 6 years old should run ubuntu fine, my pc is older than that
[15:17] <Aaruni> I know of 10 year old PCs running ubuntu just fine
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> justpie_work: mine too
[15:18] <cer> sensae: strangely enough, the WD MyBook that just arrived is not mounting automatically
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: 1.6Ghz single core sempron with 2Gb RAM and Nvidia 6150LE GPU, ran it great
[15:18] <justpie_work> trijntje : Thanks! I'm kind of at a loss. Ill try to holding shift on boot when i get home.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: what are your specs
[15:19] <sensae> cer: in Ubuntu?
[15:19] <magnum54> justpie_work:  we are assuming that you extracted the iso to write to the CD.
[15:19] <cer> sensae: yep
[15:19] <syeekick> anyone got any idea why unity crashes and i have to restart lightdm?
[15:19] <sensae> cer: Do you know what filesystem it's formatted with?
[15:19] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: intel core 2 duo with 3.5 GB ram
[15:19] <justpie_work> magnum54 : yes. i burned the iso correctly :-p
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: oads more than I have
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> *loads
[15:20] <cer> sensae: it says "unknown"
[15:20] <Wilkim> hello
[15:20] <Wilkim> how is everyone?
[15:20] <onca> great thanks for asking
[15:20] <sensae> cer: is it an HD MyBook for Mac?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Wilkim ask your ubuntu support question
[15:20] <Wilkim> great! and your welcomn
[15:21] <cer> sensae: nope, we bought the normal ones
[15:21] <Wilkim> lol i am, i alwaysask how everyone is when i join a room, sometimes the answers r funny
[15:21] <cer> sensae: the ones for Mac are the same only formatted for Mac
[15:21] <Wilkim> I wanted to know if it's possible to mount a folder when it becomes available or if running "mount -a" in a cron is the only way?
[15:22] <sensae> cer: Yeah, that's why I asked. If gparted is listing the filesystem as unknown it can't read it for some reason. The only thing I could think to suggest would be to reformat it in gparted
[15:22] <sensae> cer: Hopefully you can figure it out or get some support from the channel. I have to go. Good luck!
[15:23] <aiki46> flavio
[15:23] <cer> sen_afk: thanks for all your help
[15:23] <cer> sorry sen_afk ! Aimining at sensae ....
[15:23] <mitch-_> what's the best way to report a bug for aesthetics regarding 14.04 and VMWare Workstation?? it's an ubuntu issue but didn't used to do it in 12.04...
[15:26] <Wilkim> how can I have ubuntu check on an interval if a NFS or CIFS share is available and if so mount it (the entry is in /etc/fstab)
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Wilkim  with a cron task maybe, every 5 minutes or so
[15:28] <Wilkim> MonkeyDust: thank you! if an entry in there is already mounted, that won't cause any issues?
[15:28] <Wilkim> like it doesn't remount the entry right it will just ignore that mount
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Wilkim  try it, then you are the expert -- backup first if you are experimenting
[15:30] <mgolisch> Wilkim: youd have to adjust your cronjob to do so
[15:31] <Wilkim> thank you! :)
[15:31] <mgolisch> also there is stuff like autofs
[15:31] <mgolisch> it does mount when your try to access something
[15:33] <Barfii> hi
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for g++... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for c++... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for gpp... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for aCC... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for CC... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for cxx... no
[15:33] <Barfii> checking for cc++... no
[15:33] <unopaste> Barfii you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:33] <mitch-_> is anyone familiar with the bug reporting process? and what the "taskbar sticking over top of vmware" would be categorized as??
[15:34] <cfhowlett> !bug|mitch-_
[15:34] <Wilkim> I got one other question, how could I have a directory like /media/storage that has contents in (directory and files)
[15:34] <mitch-_> well... it's pretty specific. so I'm not sure that reporting process will work. I will need to attach a picture or maybe a video even....
[15:35] <Wilkim> is it possible to make it a mount point or does the directory need to be empty
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: what are you trying to do exactly mount something?
[15:37] <Wilkim> Well to be honest I work for a company with a group of developers, long story short we have a development box VERY specifically set up
[15:38] <somsip> Wilkim: if you mount over an existing directory that has files in it, the files are no longer accessible until the volume is unmounted. They're "hidden"
[15:38] <Wilkim> thats ok, thats my intention
[15:39] <Wilkim> some of our users use Mac, some use Windows, and some use Linux. So the development box was to make it where we would CIFS or NFS the our individual shared directory and our editor would directly edit in place the file. via ssh we would use git to manage the files and so on. our development machines are laptops we take home with us
[15:39] <somsip> Wilkim: so access to the directory will access the files on the mounted volume if it's mounted, and the underlying directory if it's not mounted.
[15:41] <Wilkim> I was planning on making the development box mount a shared folder on each developer's laptop when the developer was in, there files would be on the box. In the event the developer wasn't in, it would fall back to the files hidden by the mount (or over mount), and such
[15:41] <Wilkim> its confusing and i dont know how to word it better =/
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: so your end goal is to have a shared folder, everyone can access tru ssh?
[15:42] <Wilkim> right now files are hosted on the development box, but in the end i want it to be on each developers laptop and the development box mounts said specific developers share if available or fallback to the last "master" branch commit
[15:42] <somsip> Wilkim: that sounds like how it will work, but difficult to understand your use case exactly. Maybe better to init a bare git repo on the dev box, and have everyone manage their files through that. but difficult to suggest workabel solutions without realy knowing what you're after
[15:43] <Wilkim> each developer use to have their own VM, but each time we did an update to the underlying system we used I'd have to go and update 12 machines which was a pain in the ass and would take 2 days, now it takes 1 hour
[15:43] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, how does the !bug work?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> mitch-_ read the factoid for details
[15:43] <cfhowlett> !bug
[15:43] <Wilkim> somsip: that's exactly what I am after
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: maybe a nas server on the network, that everyone can remotely access too?
[15:44] <Wilkim> right now our IDE chokes on CIFS / NFS when it trys to do the code complete (every few minutes), among other issues
[15:44] <mitch-_> !bug
[15:44] <Wilkim> lotuspsychje: right now it is essentially a nas server
[15:44] <somsip> Wilkim: okay - one for more research for you then. Final word from me about updating multiple servers at once - just started looking at ansible over ssh and it's tidy. YMMV
[15:44] <mitch-_> oh ok i'll try that
[15:45] <Wilkim> I will look into that, thank you :)
[15:45] <somsip> Wilkim: np - good luck. AFK now
[15:45] <Wilkim> wat i ended up doing in the end was write a bash script that would do everything, then I had a bash script to look for this "update.sh" script on the nas we have here, pull it in and run it
[15:45] <Wilkim> like a poor man's automated update :)
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys got other ideas about your issue?
[15:46] <Wilkim> I could ask but I'm just gonna do the mount solution for now
[15:47] <Wilkim> should fix nearly every solution
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: okay :p
[15:47] <Wilkim> thank you all very much! :)
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Wilkim: np and good luck!
[15:48] <Cheekio> my connection to x serve keeps crashing
[15:48] <Cheekio> I can drop to console via ctrl-alt-f1, but xorg is still running in the background (I can hear it playing youtube)
[15:49] <Cheekio> at which point, if I sudo service lightdm restart, I can jump back into working, but restarting lightdm loses all my work
[15:49] <Cheekio> Is there a way to kick just the xserver connection?
[15:50] <param_> hey
[15:50] <param_> My laptop speaker not working, sound coming fine in earphones,,, problem in ubuntu 12.04
[15:50] <Cheekio> My kern.log, syslog, and xorg.log are all terribly unhelpful but the issue is obviously with the fact I've got nvidia drivers running doing their nivida prime thing.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> !sound | param_
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: ubuntu version? grafix card chipset? loaded driver?
[15:51] <Indy_> Hi, on 14.04 fresh install running the amazon app, freezes the whole UI
[15:51] <Indy_> tested it more than once
[15:51] <Cheekio> 14.04, nvidia quadro K1100M, driver is nividia-331.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  I had that too, was forces to return to 12.04
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> forced*
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you clean install or upgrade?
[15:52] <Cheekio> upgraded
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  i guess it's hardware compatibility issue
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: maybe a clean install will sort you out
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you check additional drivers section?
[15:53] <Cheekio> I don't know if that's an option today.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: upgrades are always tricky
[15:53] <wisescribe7> There's slow typing in my browser, can anyone help me fix this?
[15:54] <Cheekio> The problem is that the crash is infrequent enough that I can work on the machine just fine
[15:54] <Cheekio> So... yeah. I'd like to submit a good bug report on the issue, but without helpful logs that's kind of a shame
[15:54] <Cheekio> kind of not an option*
[15:55] <param_> @ubboty: yesterday speakers were working fine !! what might be issue ?
[15:55] <wisescribe7> Can anyone please help me figure out why there's slow typing in my browser in Ubuntu?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: did you install that 331 driver from previous ubuntu?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !details | wisescribe7
[15:55] <Cheekio> I completely flattened the driver installs before going to 14.04
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> param_  ubottu is a bot, address the channel
[15:56] <Cheekio> Mostly because without nvidia-prime, my optimus machine wasn't supported, officially or unofficially.
[15:56] <scheuri> anyone using xfce on xubuntu 14.04? How do I get my task bar in the lower middle back which offers links to my most used applications?
[15:56] <param_> my speakers stopped working today , sound is coming in headphones
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | Cheekio
[15:57] <param_> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[15:57] <Cheekio> Haha, have you used bumblebee?
[15:57] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: In any browsers I use with Ubuntu, typing is very slow, especially when on sites like Facebook.
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: ubuntu version? firefox?
[15:58] <sudormrf> hey guys, is the following package what I would be looking for if I wanted a server to be the primary DNS server in a network? bind9
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: i would go for a clean install, and see what driver it loads by default
[15:58] <wisescribe7> wisescribe7: kubuntu 14.04....it happens with both firefox and chrome
[15:58] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: kubuntu 14.04....it happens with both firefox and chrome
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:59] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: No
[16:00] <Cheekio> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure a clean install would help, but again that's not an option today. I was asking about reconnecting to xserver though, is there a way to do that?
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: you could always try enter grub/recoverymode/failsafeX
[16:01] <Cheekio> I'd need to restart for that, if I restart lightdm I'm good to go without a reboot
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Cheekio: or fix broken packages from there
[16:01] <Cheekio> It's like a hiccup in the xserver connection, restarting lightdm from console will solve the issue instantly
[16:02] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: No, I didn't install Kubuntu restricted extras.
[16:02] <Cheekio> If I reboot, restart lightdm, anything, the machine runs fine again for a few days until the xserver connection drops out for no discernable reason.
[16:02] <junka> !info firefox
[16:02] <junka> 29 :x
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: not sure if it will fix, but worth a try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: does chromium-browser type slow too? did you try text editors if their slow too?
[16:03] <Barfii> .
[16:03] <Barfii> hi
[16:05] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I don't have Chromium. I didn't try the text editor.
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: your kubuntu system speed is good?
[16:05] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I just tried the text editor. I can type in it fine.
[16:06] <param_> hello,   I was following this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting , my speaker sound not coming,  and when i run command list-sinks-- it shows output for speaker as : 		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: no)
[16:06] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: Pentium 4 2.8 ghz w/Hyper Threading, 3GB RAM
[16:06] <param_> it should be available: yes , i think
[16:06] <param_> how to fix it ?
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: not sure what could cause this mate sorry
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: can you try launch firefox from a terminal, maybe it will show you errors?
[16:08] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: What would be the command for that?
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: type firefox in terminal
[16:10] <wisescribe7> This is what came up in the terminal, don't know what it means: (process:5129): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[16:10] <wisescribe7> @lotuspsychje
[16:11] <eviljames> Just updated to 14.04 last night.
[16:11] <Chaz6> Hi there, do you know what the partition type code is for UDF using gdisk (GPT)?
[16:11] <eviljames> What makes it a good idea to change Apache's docroot during an update WITHOUT informing the user?
[16:11] <Chaz6> It doesn't seem to be listed in its help
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: surely change control and customer contact is good here?
[16:13] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: wat.
[16:13] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: So, I should keep config files in a vcs just in case ubuntu decides to clobber them?
[16:14] <eviljames> (don't get me wrong, I've got config files in a vcs for client-facing stuff - this was on my desktop)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: did you upgraded to kubuntu or clean install?
[16:14] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: upgrade
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: keeping backups of data and configs will ensure changes are undoable etc
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: found a bug that might be relevant: https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/973503
[16:15] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: So, this makes it a useful and acceptable action to clobber config files without user interaction during an update?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: can you maybe test kubuntu liveCD and see if browsers have same lag?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: if conf files are to be changed during upgrades you will be offered to keep the existing or use the one from the package
[16:16] <eviljames> Yeah, that's simply false.
[16:16] <eviljames> That *may* be the case some of the time, but certainly not with /etc/apache2/sites-availble/000-default.conf - even though it has been modified since installation time, it is overwritten at update time.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> eviljames: again, backups are good. You could report a bug
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> updates live an own life, you never know you will get
[16:19] <Black_Claw> Hi all. :)
[16:20] <Guest52740> hi ;)
[16:21] <Indy_> Hello, I have auto-login enabled (without asking for the password), so I get asked for my user password to unlock the default keyring, before some operations. I dont want that. What can I do to avoid this prompt?
[16:21] <Rory> Indy_: These insturctions http://switchpacket.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/removing-painful-key-ring.html
[16:22] <Guest52740> hello , i forgot how to register a user on irc :)
[16:22] <Indy_> thanks Rory
[16:22] <Guest52740>  /msg op register ? or ?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> !register | Guest52740
[16:23] <Guest52740> ty
[16:23] <Guest52740> :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[16:24] <param_> Sound not coming in ubuntu 12.04 speakers, how to fix ?
[16:24] <eviljames> ActionParsnip: A bug, indeed.  Just seemed like a pretty horrible thing to do - especially if the user /doesn't/ do backups/vcs on configs.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> param_  in a terminal, type     alsamixer     if you see MM, go there and press m
[16:25] <param_>  have removed MM, still not working
[16:26] <param_> Its not detecting my speakers i guess
[16:26] <tmager> param_: you have an audio card or something? it normally detects the motherboard audio outputs correctly in my experience
[16:27] <does> Hi Everyone!! I have a question.Every time go into standby,and want to resume,I have to push the power button.Is there a way i can do it by a click of a mouse,or pushing a key on a keyboard? All my usbv devices have power when my computer is in standby,I know that much.
[16:28] <param_> yes it was working fine yesterday
[16:28] <param_> today it stop working
[16:28] <param_> when i run $ pacmd >>> list-sinks
[16:29] <does> usb*
[16:30] <param_> check dis : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7367389/
[16:30] <param_> why does it show : ports: 		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: no) 			properties:
[16:31] <tmager> param_: dunno, I'm not a particular expert with pulseaudio; so the speakers stopped working immediately after you ran this?
[16:32] <param_> no no,, i dun know why speaker stopped working, it was working fine yesterday
[16:32] <tmager> oh, ok
[16:33] <tmager> you checked that pulseaudio is running I trust?
[16:33] <Indy_> Trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras through the graphical Software Center, caused Software Center to hang (turn grey and non-interactive) in about half the progress gauge
[16:33] <Indy_> Thoughts/ideas/solutions please?
[16:33] <Indy_> and it remains like that 7 mins after
[16:33] <param_> pulseaudio ?? how to check it ?
[16:33] <f3lix> I really need a very recent mainline kernel for a 14.04 installation. The newest one is is 3.15-rc3 for 14.10, though… I'm wondering what the difference is between kernels for different Ubuntu releases. Is it just terminology? Can I "safely" use kernels for any ubuntu version, or are there "special" patches being applied for each release?
[16:33] <blek> WB, happywise
[16:34] <param_> sound is coming in earphones
[16:34] <happywise> hi :)
[16:34] <ubasrawr> i have a question, where do i find the default error message file again?
[16:34] <does> happywise: Hello!!
[16:34] <tmager> param_: check there's an entry in system monitor, or just run "pulseaudio" in terminal -- if it gives some error about it being already running, that's fine.
[16:34] <f3lix> tmager: http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2011-06-21/get-back-varlogmessages-in-kubuntu-11-04/
[16:34] <happywise> hi :)
[16:34] <blek> happywise: so, how is it, first time using IRC? :P
[16:34] <f3lix> oups, that was ubasrawr: http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2011-06-21/get-back-varlogmessages-in-kubuntu-11-04/
[16:34] <Indy_> At least tell me what do I do? I try to close/kill the window, or that will break my package tree? What alternatives do I have?
[16:35] <param_> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[16:35] <param_> i ran , it gave : E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[16:35] <happywise> feels somewhat level up >.<
[16:35] <f3lix> ubasrawr: until then, you can do dmesg, and get pretty much the same
[16:35] <blek> Hahahaha
[16:35] <tmager> param_: good, that's normal if it's running
[16:36] <does> Indy_: I am not sure on that one.....
[16:36] <tmager> param_: unless the audio is turned down in some non-obvious place, I don't really know -- keep asking around, but I'm not all that familiar with audio stuff, the defaults normally work fine
[16:37] <Indy_> Installing nvidia proprietary driver messed up the nice booting logo/screen... any chance i can get it back?
[16:37] <f3lix> Indy_: not in my experience, but I gave up after about a day
[16:37] <ubasrawr> f3lix- thank you
[16:37] <f3lix> ubasrawr: NP :)
[16:39] <Indy_> f3lix: :S
[16:39] <does> Indy_: I know this might not help,but in my experience,I have been able to close UBC in the middle of installing,and It still installs in the background.So I am not sure. :-(
[16:39] <f3lix> I know :) I even lost the regular TTYs completely the last time.
[16:40] <does> Indy_: That is only my experience. ;)
[16:40] <Indy_> does: I think it kinda did that in my case too
[16:41] <Indy_> I am just worried Ubuntu is still many issues away from working "out of the box", for an end user, after installing
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Indy_ for end users, use the OEM installation method.  get all the packages and updates and pre-stage for the new user.
[16:42] <does> Every time go into standby,and want to resume,I have to push the power button.Is there a way i can do it by a click of a mouse,or pushing a key on a keyboard? All my usb devices have power when my computer is in standby. Does anyone know how to enable it?
[16:42] <ubasrawr> can anyone help me with the declaration of my subnet for my isc-dhcp server?
[16:43] <DannyBrown> Hey guys. How do I change the write permissions on a flash drive so that they cannot be removed/copied
[16:43] <f3lix> ubasrawr: What are you trying to do?
[16:44] <f3lix> DannyBrown: What's the filesystem?
[16:44] <DannyBrown> f3lix: Ubuntu?
[16:44] <f3lix> If it's FAT, exFAT or NTFS, you can't
[16:44] <ubasrawr> f3lix- i am trying to setup my isc-dhcp server; i got the eth0 and eth1 declared, but i don't think my subnet is being properly declared
[16:44] <f3lix> 1 sec
[16:44] <qnlinux> hi
[16:44] <DannyBrown> By the way guys. There is a guy named Waskum pm'ing me trying to get me to click a sketchy link
[16:45] <DannyBrown> f3lix: Ok can you tell me what filesystem to use then? Then what I need to do
[16:45] <cfhowlett> DannyBrown do not click that link!
[16:45] <DannyBrown> cfhowlett: I know lol
[16:45] <DannyBrown> Just thought you guys might want to report him to the sys admin or something
[16:45] <DannyBrown> f3lix: thanks
[16:46] <Aaruni> whenever someone messages me links, it is so tempting to click on them, even when you know not to click them...
[16:46] <Aaruni> DannyBrown, I think you can do it with !admin waskum
[16:46] <DannyBrown> !admin waskum
[16:46] <Aaruni> hmm
[16:46] <Aaruni> I was mistaked
[16:46] <Aaruni> *mistaken
[16:46] <cfhowlett> !ops waskum
[16:46] <f3lix> DannyBrown: Anything native to linux will do. EXT4 is probably your best bet. And to make sure noone can read your files but you, you could get away with "chmod 700" on the folders in the root of the drive.
[16:47] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: ?
[16:47] <f3lix> But this doesn't protect your files if you lose your drive, if that's what you're looking for
[16:47] <cfhowlett> IdleOne per DannyBrown waksum is pm'ing sketchy links
[16:47] <ubasrawr> f3lix - this is my pastebin for dhcpd.conf and for interfaces: http://pastebin.com/eS68WSnJ
[16:47] <DannyBrown> f3lix: I am doing something for someone on a virtual machine. They are using windows and I wand to ensure that no one can copy or delete the vm from the flash drive
[16:47] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Will have a look :)
[16:48] <DannyBrown> f3lix: so do you think I could still use chmod 700 even though a windows user will be using the flashdrive?
[16:48] <tsimpson> DannyBrown: there's nothing we can do as they aren't in here and are doing it in private, you could report it to freenode staff in #freenode instead
[16:49] <DannyBrown> tsimpson: thanks
[16:49] <f3lix> DannyBrown: You can't really do that. Especially since as you put it you need it to prevent windows users. Files are only protected by the OS that mounted the filesystem. You cannot protect files from deletion save for putting them on a read-only device (like a CD or DVD), sorry :/
[16:50] <DannyBrown> f3lix: think there is a solution from the windows os?
[16:50] <f3lix> Yes, within the OS you can protect the files with the ACL permissions in NTFS (FAT doesn't support this). It is your best bet.
[16:51] <DannyBrown> f3lix: thanks
[16:51] <f3lix> But still anyone with access to the drive can delete anything he or she wants if she has admin rights to the computer reading it
[16:51] <f3lix> NP
[16:51] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Looking now :)
[16:52] <gamboo> Wow... I think I'm done with firefox. Is seamonkey actively maintained?   I just tried to run a sudo apt-get upgrade, and after getting most of the way through it, it says it is unable to lock the admin directory (var/lib/dpkg/), and asks if some other process is using it.  What could be causing this?
[16:52] <DannyBrown> f3lix: yeah i figured as much.
[16:53] <gamboo> Speiros, do you have synaptic open? :)
[16:53] <cfhowlett> Speiros you've probably got automatic updates in the background
[16:53] <Speiros> Ah, okay gamboo and cfhowlett.  Thanks.  I'll check.
[16:54] <stemid> I know about import but are there any screenshot programs for ubuntu that allow the user to select an area of the screen with their mouse? or perhaps a window?
[16:54] <Speiros> gamboo and cfhowlett Yes, that was the problem.  Thank you.
[16:54] <cfhowlett> stemid of course.
[16:55] <gamboo> happens to me all the time :)
[16:55] <cfhowlett> stemid look in software center - my app is just named "screenshot"
[16:55] <Speiros> lol, Well, thanks heaps.  Now to try to get this thing uploaded.
[16:55] <Speiros> Chat soon.
[16:57] <stemid> cfhowlett: thanks that search lead me to find that I already had gnome-screenshot installed. just what I wanted
[16:57] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Sorry, I'm just getting out of the door, so I can't stay with you, but I have some notes I made for myself when setting up isc-dhcp if you want them?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> stemid: try shutter
[16:57] <testnobody> What about showdown results?
[16:59] <ubasrawr> f3lix -  yes please
[17:00] <f3lix> ubasrawr: http://pastebin.com/QU33zW6h — this are my notes… One sec, and I'll add the ones I'm using on my server right now, which also does IPX, so it might be confusing...
[17:02] <hansford> anyone here having problems with Fire Fox after the upgrade?  having problems with the address line..showing a color bar over the text and unable to see the text
[17:02] <luist> any command line stuff to convert doc to pdf?
[17:02] <f3lix> ubasrawr: Current config http://pastebin.com/zi0jpPUK — but AFAIR, I'm not using DHCP with this…
[17:03] <ubasrawr> f3lix -  i'll ask in the ubuntu-server if someone can help me with it xD
[17:03] <Tiensbakung> luist: antiword
[17:05] <qnlinux> luist: You could use oowriter -pt pdf file.doc  if you have libre/openoffice installed
[17:05] <luist> ok… thanks guys
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> f3lix: no gateway defined?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> f3lix: on eth0
[17:08] <Indy_> Hi, how do I monitor the startup applications?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: monitor in what way?
[17:09] <jiffe98> anyone seen an issue with 14.04 where you lose routing?  Default gateway is still there, can ping locally including the gateway but nothing outside, reboot fixes it, has happened twice now
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: sure its not DNS?
[17:09] <Indy_> ActionParsnip: see what starts on boot, remove/add
[17:09] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: I can resolve fine
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: when you get the issue can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:09] <Mantissa> The boot time on 14.04 is somewhat slow. My bootchart graph has high amounts of I/O waiting. Is it just my disk is too slow?
[17:09] <Guest_xyz> hi
[17:09] <qnlinux> Indy_: start with "service --status-all"
[17:10] <qnlinux> Indy_: top
[17:10] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: no response
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[17:10] <Guest_xyz> kindly recommend a good plagiarism checking software (for linux).
[17:11] <Indy_> qnlinux: but this way I can't add one
[17:11] <Indy_> eg skype
[17:11] <qnlinux> Indy_: What do you want to add?
[17:11] <Indy_> I remember previous versions had a nice graphical menu
[17:11] <Indy_> skype
[17:12] <qnlinux> Indy_: You could put it in /etc/rc.local
[17:12] <Indy_> qnlinux: why did they remove this GUI editor though?
[17:12] <jiffe98> service networking stop fails also so I can't restart networking
[17:12] <kostkon> Indy_, did you search for it in the dash
[17:13] <jiffe98> ifdown and ifup seems to bring it back
[17:14] <francomos1> test
[17:14] <francomos1> ciao
[17:15] <francomos1> !list
[17:15] <fission6> curious of what peoples backup strategies are for personal machines and making sure ~/ is restorable on a new machine at any moment
[17:16] <francomos1> un canale per scaricare i file?
[17:16] <kostkon> !it | francomos1
[17:16] <francomos1> ok
[17:16] <qnlinux> Very nice read: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:19] <fission6> what are peoples backup strategiesin this channel
[17:19] <Indy_> How can I minimize fullscreen wesnoth?
[17:19] <Indy_> In windows it works with super+D
[17:19] <k1l> !backup | fission6
[17:20] <stormageddon> Is there a way I can send a screencap? I'm having trouble with boot-repair.
[17:20] <k1l> Indy_: alt+enter
[17:20] <fission6> look for persoanl approchaes and hardware recs
[17:20] <Indy_> k1l: nope, didnt work
[17:20] <k1l> Indy_: ctrl+super+arrow-down
[17:21] <Indy_> k1l: nope :/
[17:21] <Mantissa> The avg read speed for my drive with tahr is 23mb/s. It takes around two minutes to boot. Is that accurate?
[17:21] <k1l> fission6: there is no "best". different people use different strategies. if you have a problem we can try to solve that here
[17:21] <Indy_> Should I file a bug report for this?
[17:22] <k1l> Indy_: which ubuntu, which desktop?
[17:22] <Indy_> k1l: latest, fresh install, gnome, unity
[17:22] <Mantissa> I'm looking at bootchart's chart and there's high amounts of I/O waiting
[17:23] <k1l> fission6: some use rsync, some us deja dub, etc etc. but that is all mentioned in the links given by the bot
[17:23] <Indy_> On Windows, I could minimize it, and start another instance by clicking on the launcher again, here, I only can press "super" to get sidebar (which leaves "fullscreen state" messed up until program restart) and clicking on launcher again doesnt get me a new wensoth instance
[17:24] <fission6> k1| any hardware recs
[17:24] <param_> hello folks, i broke something, sound not coming on speakers and earphones and when i run alsamixer, it dun show my speaker and headphones as well....... :(  how to fix this
[17:24] <k1l> Indy_: ctrl+super+arrow-down minimizes windows on unity. maybe the game blocks that?
[17:25] <Indy_>   k1l i dont know, but I know it shouldnt, as it reduced my usability
[17:25] <Indy_> k1l: should i report against wesnoth upstream then?
[17:26] <k1l> Indy_: did you try alt-tab? is this in wine or is this  a linux native?
[17:26] <xangua> Indy_: to get another window of the same program hold Shift key and clic the icon
[17:27] <Indy_> k1l: linux native
[17:27] <kostkon> Indy_, gnome shell or unity?
[17:27] <param_> my alsamxer only shows PCM and Master ........
[17:27] <param_> my alsamixer only shows PCM and Master ........
[17:27] <Indy_> k1l: alt-tab didnt work
[17:27] <Indy_> xangua: ok that worked
[17:27] <Indy_> kostkon: unity
[17:28] <Indy_> xangua: but that only solved half my problem
[17:28] <Indy_> i still cant "show desktop"
[17:28] <xangua> control+windows+d
[17:28] <Indy_> only get dash/sidebar? which messes up "fullscreen mode"
[17:29] <Indy_> xangua: nothing
[17:29] <kostkon> param_, what's your problem exactly.
[17:29] <xangua> Indy_: then you modified something
[17:29] <Indy_> xangua: nope, i didnt
[17:30] <param_> i was trying to fix my speaker sound problem, now my headphone and speaker both not working
[17:30] <param_> and when i run alsamixer command it shows only PCM & MASTER
[17:30] <Indy_> so, again, maybe i should report a bug against wesnoth upstream?
[17:30] <param_> earlier it was showing all headphones and speakers as well
[17:30] <niko> /10/30
[17:31] <kostkon> param_, and what have you tried so far.
[17:31] <param_> i did something in blacklist
[17:32] <param_> i dun remember what i did... now  tried with removing pulseaudio
[17:33] <robotdevil> I accidentally used the move gui command in kde, instead of copy on a external ntfs, what is best program to recover. I would just copy back but it had to skip some files so I would like to see what it missed.
[17:33] <kostkon> param_, you'll need to revert all those changes.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> param_: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*; sleep 10; pulseaudio -k
[17:34] <kostkon> param_, try to find the page where you got the instructions from to modify that file and please don't remove pulse, only do what ActionParsnip posted
[17:34] <junka> !info firefox
[17:35] <Tiensbakung> param: try stay with pulseaudio or alsa. not both.
[17:35] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Which dir did you move?
[17:35] <junka> !info thunderbird
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> brb
[17:36] <param_> okay i removed pulse audio, now installing again
[17:36] <junka> !info vlc
[17:36] <robotdevil> qnlinux: folders from the root (i guess) directory
[17:36] <esde> anyone have a clue why nomachine would suddenly require user authorization to connect after a reboot, where it did not require it before. Also, the cfg file doesn't even have directives for authorization, and when I did add a directive VirtualDesktopAuthorization 0 but it had no effect after restarting nxserver.
[17:36] <esde> i would try #NX, but it's nothing but crickets there
[17:37] <ignu5> guys i have a problem with a usb stick that wont mount. although it shows up with lsusb
[17:37] <robotdevil> qnlinux: lowest level on device. Is that what youre asking?
[17:37] <luist> ubuntu 14.04 is SOOO SLOW on my vbox!!!!!!!! im getting depressed
[17:37] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Ouch, are you logged in using root?  I suspect you are
[17:37] <mr_johns1> move to lubuntu
[17:38] <robotdevil> qnlinux: no
[17:38] <param_> i did dis, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=112144   disabling
[17:38] <frank__> Hey, all! I was wondering if ubuntu 14.04 is installable on a f2fs partition. If no, what version of ubuntu is planned to be installable on f2fs?
[17:38] <param_> disabling HDMI output or changing to analog output
[17:40] <qnlinux> robotdevil: Try copy the directories and files you moved back to where they belong.   If you weren't using root I suspect you only moved some files that you have writes to
[17:40] <qnlinux> *write permission
[17:40] <kostkon> param_, revert that change and come back
[17:41] <param_> did dat
[17:41] <param_> still no otput
[17:41] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: does gparted recognize your usb correctly?
[17:42] <kostkon> param_, log out and back in and then try to setup your sound again in your sound settings
[17:43] <ignu5> Tiensbakung: didn't think of GParted! It shows dev/sdb as unallocated
[17:43] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: there you go
[17:43] <ignu5> Tiensbakung: thanx! :)
[17:44] <ignu5> Tiensbakung:  Gparted also shows a warning: /dev/sdb:unrecognized disk label
[17:46] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: try reformat it with gparted,
[17:47] <krypto> Using ubuntu 12.04.4 ,after configuring network i am not able to restart network..its neglecting /etc/init.d/networking restart or service networking restart
[17:47] <krypto> nothing happens after executing these commands
[17:47] <Capprentice> What is the defult username/password for 3proxy ?
[17:47] <Capprentice> I have tried using my root password and user as root. Did not worked ! I can not access localhost !
[17:47] <ignu5> thanx Tiensbakung  it works like a charm now
[17:48] <Tiensbakung> ignu5: no problem
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: how did you install 3proxy
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> !info 3proxy
[17:53] <krypto> any idea why its ignoring service networking restart
[17:53] <param_> when i run pulseaudio: it gives error: pulseaudio: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-2.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> luist: use a lighter DE, or ditch DE and just use WM on it's own
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> param_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:54] <param_> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[17:55] <kostkon> !find libpulsecommon-2.0.so
[17:55] <kostkon> !find libpulsecommon-2.0.so precise
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: if you want a proxy, why not use Squid as it is supported here and has a massive user base
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !find libpulsecommon
[17:55] <urielvigilant> i download a open source software, after extract i have 2 folders and 3 or 4 files, one of those is .JAR   , how to install this on my lubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: run the jar with /usr/bin/java
[17:55] <param_> grep: libpulsecommon-2.0.so: No such file or directory grep: libpulsecommon: No such file or directory
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> param_: sudo apt-get install libpulse0 libpulse0-dbg
[17:57] <Tiensbakung> param: sudo apt-get install --reinstall, force a reinstall
[17:58] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, Im trying to proxify ftp through 3proxy. I dont think Squid supports that. I dont want a caching proxy.
[17:59] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip it says its not marked as executable or is unsafe source ?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: 3proxy isnt supported here as its not an Ubuntu package
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: you can chmod +x the file
[18:00] <param_> ActionParsnip: did that.. now pulseaudio is working
[18:00] <param_> but sound not coming
[18:00] <urielvigilant> AtionParsnip iam very newby, i dont have idea how to do that
[18:00] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> param_: what is the output of:   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:02] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip i used  ..  OpenJDK Java 7 run time  , to try open it
[18:02] <param_> its uploading something
[18:02] <param_> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8618fcb9866c0de1913e80372d53f09423976783
[18:03] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip , i click right buton of the mouse then i choosed  OpenJDK Java 7 run time to open it . It says blocked usr/bin/java -jar
[18:05] <urielvigilant> how to execut it on terminal emulator ?
[18:05] <Dantix> hi, Iḿ running 12.04 within a Vmware VM. The issue is: doing ping to a administrative IP of my switch after a 10 replies start to lost packets and the way I´ve found to recover it is deleting the switch´s arp entry. Then start to work until passed a number of replies stops again.
[18:07] <kostkon> urielvigilant, you need to make it executable first. right click, properties, permissions, then enable allow to executing file as program
[18:08] <param_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8618fcb9866c0de1913e80372d53f09423976783
[18:09] <ktk1> Anyone care to help me with display issues?
[18:10] <Tiensbakung> param_: your sound card is correctly recognized, make sure it's not muted in sound settings
[18:10] <Dantix> anyone have a clue of how to resolve my issue?
[18:11] <Ca11um> How can I give a specific user access to /etc/inspircd ?
[18:13] <param_> no its not muted
[18:13] <param_> i checked it
[18:16] <Tasab> how i can know my internet connection working properly thro' the terminal , tks
[18:16] <Capprentice> Tasab, ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:17] <Capprentice> if you get replies then working okay !
[18:17] <ktk1> I'll just put it out there.  Radeon Xpress 200...using open source radeon driver gets a signal frequency out of range.  Using fglrx driver frequency is ok.
[18:19] <biaxs> http://xdcc_5
[18:20] <tom__> i m new to this
[18:21] <tom__> is there anyone who can tell me about this
[18:21] <OerHeks> tom__, read the topic please
[18:23] <justpie_work> Hey all, Is there anyway to force garbage collection in JS?
[18:24] <param_> My system settings is opening again and again when i click on sound settings
[18:24] <param_> ubuntu 12.04
[18:24] <justpie_work> woops wrong chann!
[18:24] <doomlord__> http://thetechjournal.com/tech-news/airplay-video-arrives-on-linux.xhtml  <<< can anyone confirm if that works, i've been unable to get totem to recognize anything
[18:26] <mathias__> a
[18:26] <ktk1> So, I guess my question, "How do I set monitor frequencies?"
[18:26] <tom__> my system dock don't work
[18:27] <Capprentice> tom__, Dock ? Cairo Dock ?
[18:27] <kostkon> !details | tom__
[18:27] <bluezusb> Hi, USB Bluetooth dongles. Can give me link to one on Amazon eBay uk which just works with latest Ubuntu. I have wasted to much time with Cambridge Silicon Clones, and am not wasting anymore time trying to patch recompile kernels for buggy driver.
[18:27] <tom__> yes cairo dock.
[18:28] <param_> speaker not working on ubuntu 12.04, sound coming on earphones
[18:28] <bluezusb> USB Bluetooth dongle Amazon or eBay  which just works with newest Ubuntu link pls?
[18:28] <Capprentice> tom__, try running from terminal to see whats wrong: Terminal -> cairo-dock
[18:29] <urielvigilant> kostkon i did what you said, and it didnt work, nothing happens when click right buton of the mouse then i choosed OpenJDK Java 7 run time to open it, after do what you said
[18:30] <Capprentice> param_,open "gstreamer-properties" , in audio setup - choose "pulse audio or alsa for both input and output" !
[18:30] <kostkon> urielvigilant, try from terminal with  java -jar filename
[18:31] <urielvigilant> kostkon i must go to the directory where is the folder doesn it , and once there, what i should type ?
[18:31] <urielvigilant> sudo java -jar filename ?
[18:32] <kostkon> urielvigilant, or just type the full path,  e.g.  java -jar ~/Desktop/myfile.jar
[18:32] <Capprentice> urielvigilant, java -jar /home/xxx/xxx/xxx.jar
[18:32] <kostkon> urielvigilant, sudo is not needed
[18:32] <urielvigilant> thank you
[18:34] <urielvigilant> kostkon it says: no main manifest attribute, in startup.jar
[18:35] <kostkon> urielvigilant, are you sure you are running the right .jar file
[18:36] <kostkon> urielvigilant, how many jar file are there
[18:36] <param_> my system setting opening again and again,,,  ubuntu 12.04
[18:36] <tutak>  /join ubuntu-beginners-dev
[18:36] <urielvigilant> kostkon i downloaded from here http://binhgiang.sourceforge.net/webextractor/download.htm
[18:36] <tutak> Hello, why can't i join  "ubuntu-beginners-dev"?
[18:37] <breaker313> Hi there. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 a few days ago with Unity, additionally with lubuntu and kde, and now I'm confronted with an error message: Desktopmanagement isn' active. (Desktoppverwaltung ist nicht aktiv)
[18:37] <tutak> It says "Channel invite only"
[18:37] <urielvigilant> kostkon can you try there for me please ?
[18:37] <kostkon> urielvigilant, i'd rather not i'm afraid :(
[18:38] <darkangel_> Hey i was just curious if one made a web site for an extra feature for Ubuntu would Ubuntu peep's Host it?
[18:39] <urielvigilant> kostkon when i click on it JAr, it open another windoes asking for extract, i should do that ?
[18:39] <kostkon> urielvigilant, no
[18:39] <urielvigilant> humm
[18:39] <miqui> question, if i have a 1gig physical max on an ubuntu VM, is it possible to create a swap file greater than 1gig ?
[18:39] <kostkon> urielvigilant, if there are more than one jar files, try running each one of them
[18:40] <urielvigilant> no , there is one only
[18:41] <Munster> o/
[18:42] <jhutchins> urielvigilant: There is a lot of bad java around the net.
[18:42] <miqui> anybody?
[18:42] <jhutchins> urielvigilant: THere should be documentation on teh sourceforge page for that project that explains how to use it.
[18:43] <jhutchins> miqui: 1G physical max what?
[18:44] <urielvigilant> i will try, maybe i will try the windows version and try to install it with playonlinux
[18:44] <miqui> jhutchins:  1G physical RAM
[18:45] <Tiensbakung> miqui: swap files are hard disks, not ram
[18:45] <miqui> Tiensbakung:  i know.. that..
[18:46] <miqui> Tiensbakung: if i have 1 gig of ram, i want to be able to use the dd command to create a 4 gig swap file
[18:47] <miqui> tried that, and it seems it is not possible.
[18:47] <bluezusb> USB Bluetooth Dongles help
[18:47] <Tiensbakung> miqui: a dd command for creating swap file? what you exactly wanna do?
[18:48] <miqui> Tiensbakung:  i want to create a huge swapfile in a VM with only 1gig ram...
[18:48] <miqui> i need to know if it is  a problem with dd command or simply correct behavior...
[18:48] <daftykins> miqui: of course you can set it larger... you'd ideally do that in the partition + install stage though, as swap would be a partition not a file
[18:48] <OerHeks> miqui, you do that during install, or see this wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:49] <jhutchins> miqui: Your swap file or partition can be as big as whatever physical (disk) storage you have.  You can even have multiple swap devices to use more than one disk.
[18:49] <Tiensbakung> miqui: it has nothing to do with your ram size, dd if=/dev/zero to create a swap file in a file system, fdisk for creating a swap file as a partition
[18:49] <jhutchins> miqui: The old recommendation was 2X your RAM, now ammended to not exceed about 4G swap unless you need suspend-to-ram, in which case at least 1X RAM.
[18:50] <ktk1> At boot I get a signal frequency out of range message using open source drivers. The fglxr driver fixes it.  How can I specify the monitor freaks so I can use the open source driver?
[18:50] <Tiensbakung> miqui: make sure you use a limit when using dd
[18:50] <miqui> this command fails: dd if=/dev/zero of=/sawpfile  bs=4000MB count=1
[18:50] <miqui> it fails on a VM with max 1gig ram
[18:50] <jhutchins> miqui: Generally, you do not want to use swawp, especially on a server.  It's ok to have it as a buffer for emergencies, but if you use it much at all it will bog down the system horribly.
[18:51] <jhutchins> miqui: That's why more than 4G is not recommended; managing more than that is impractical.
[18:51] <miqui> jhutchins:  sure, i am aware of this best practice....
[18:51] <Tiensbakung> miqui: not bs=4000MB, bs means how many bytes at a time, use small bs, (I normally use 4M), set the count right
[18:52] <daftykins> miqui: but doing a file on the file system is still not right
[18:52] <miqui> Tiensbakung: ok, can you give me a sample command to create a swap file of any size then?
[18:52] <miqui> daftykins: sure i agree...but i might not have a choice...
[18:53] <daftykins> miqui: what exactly is the scenario that you're limited with options?
[18:53] <Tiensbakung> miqui: dd if=/dev/zero bs=4M count=?
[18:53] <miqui> daftykins: scenario is that i need to pack many tools onto a tiny VM (1 gig RAM max) so a quick way might be to add large swap
[18:54] <miqui> "just as a temp workaround"
[18:54] <[gabriel]> ok guys I installed xfce and it changed my splash screen... how do I get it back?
[18:54] <miqui> if i do not add swap i oom frequently..
[18:54] <daftykins> miqui: persistent liveUSB isn't a viable alternative?
[18:55] <miqui> daftykins: nope
[18:55] <miqui> dealing with a tiny server on a company's public cloud
[18:55] <daftykins> ah
[18:55] <itsfortybelow> ubuntu doesn't seem to like it when i ping a host that doesn't have a reverse record
[18:55] <daftykins> ok well, gl
[18:55] <nighty-_> Hi
[18:56] <jhutchins> miqui: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/create-a-linux-swap-file
[18:56] <nighty-_> I upgraded 2 machines to 14.04 LTS (64bits) on with Intel GFX another one with GT620 NVIDIA
[18:56] <nighty-_> the intel one is fine
[18:56] <miqui> Tiensbakung: dd if=/dev/zero bs=4M count=?    count =1000 ?
[18:56] <nighty-_> the nvidia one does not show the top and bottom gnome-panels ( using gnome-flashback )
[18:56] <nighty-_> any idea how to fix this ?
[18:57] <miqui> jhutchins: thanks...been there...
[18:57] <nighty-_> I am using nvidia tested drivers
[18:57] <daftykins> nighty-_: try a new user / guest session first to rule out a funky /home configuration
[18:58] <Tiensbakung> miqui: it's binary, 1G = 1024 * 1M, but it isn't much difference, I normally also go with 1000, because the math is quicker;-)
[18:58] <jhutchins> miqui: Both of those pages tell you how to determine the block count, so I really doubt you've "been there".
[18:58] <nighty-_> trying now daftykins
[18:58] <Tiensbakung> miqui: in your case, it's about count=250, because you use 4M at a time
[18:58] <bigred15> How do I turn off the pop up off update manager?
[18:59] <miqui> Tiensbakung: k, will give it a try... thanks.
[18:59] <spede> cock
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, it seems to work albeit with funky fonts and settings for gnome
[19:00] <Tiensbakung> miqui: try with small ones first to ensure everything's going right
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, so what gives then ?
[19:00] <daftykins> nighty-_: so a guest got the panels up fine?
[19:00] <nighty-_> daftykins, yes
[19:01] <miqui> thanks all for your replies...
[19:02] <daftykins> nighty-_: hrmm, do you have a ~/.xsession-errors file? that might not be quite the right name but try tab completion
[19:03] <nighty-_> daftykins, ok let me look
[19:04] <nighty-_> http://pastebin.com/8TFQ4buS
[19:04] <nighty-_> daftykins,
[19:05] <nighty-_> looks like bluetooth indicator is screwing up ?
[19:05] <blizzard_> am on 11.10 and have a 13.04 cd. how do i install it without botting from bios.(my boot order does not show teh device, and my cmos password is locked)
[19:05] <daftykins> nighty-_: hrmm i'm not experienced enough with desktop matters to know if any of that's too relevant.
[19:07] <DexterF> installing 14.04 gets stuck (for hours now) at "bcmwl-kernel-source is being configured" expanding details says something about an hourly cron job
[19:07] <DexterF> machine has only 700MB, should mention
[19:07] <blizzard_> quick help please :)
[19:08] <jhutchins> blizzard_: 12.04 is no longer supported.  The live CD should have an install option.
[19:08] <blizzard_> which file should i run to trigger it?
[19:08] <jhutchins> blizzard_: TYpo, 13.04 is not supported.
[19:08] <blizzard_> well, i can mvoe to 13.04 and then do n online upgrade
[19:09] <jhutchins> blizzard_: I'm not sure, it's supposed to be in the menu.
[19:09] <Tiensbakung> DexterF: 700M, should consider a light weight distro
[19:09] <blizzard_> i cant seem to find teh menu :)
[19:09] <blizzard_> not sure which script i need to run!
[19:09] <queuetip> i've got ubuntu running on a 64 bit architecture and i'm trying to run a software that says it supports 64 bit but i'm getting obvious errors of it trying to load 32 bit libraries, is there a way to download from the ubuntu repositories 32 bit versions of the same libraries?
[19:10] <DexterF> Tiensbakung: xubuntu?
[19:10] <daftykins> nighty-_: last idea, can you run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[19:10] <daftykins> queuetip: packagename:i386
[19:10] <queuetip> daftykins: awesome! thanks
[19:10] <Tiensbakung> DexterF: sure
[19:11] <daftykins> queuetip: you may want to read up a bit on multi-architecture use though so you don't get into a nasty situation :)
[19:11] <blizzard_> any hints on what which file should run to overwrite the current os?
[19:11] <DexterF> Tiensbakung: that's what's running :)
[19:11] <DexterF> I killed a stuck modprobe. installer continues. fingers crossed...
[19:11] <daftykins> blizzard_: why don't you know the password? is it not yours?
[19:11] <queuetip> daftykins: yeah i can see that already based on this message: You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[19:11] <queuetip> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[19:11] <jhutchins> blizzard_: It seems obvious that there should be a command, but I can't find it.  You can install it with debootstrap.
[19:11] <VlperX> hey guys, having trouble mounting my new 4TB
[19:12] <jhutchins> !debootstrap
[19:12] <VlperX> I've formated a single primary ex4 partition
[19:12] <daftykins> queuetip: haha, you may want to hold off and read up then :)
[19:12] <VlperX> the drive is sdd, sdd1 will not mount
[19:12] <VlperX> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd
[19:12] <blizzard_> jhutchins: wierd. google doesnt help me with the cmd either!
[19:13] <queuetip> daftykins: i'm doing that now :) thanks
[19:14] <blizzard_> jhutchins: wubi?
[19:14] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Yeah, I find the exact question, but the answers are all to a different question.
[19:14] <vladhaund> just upgraded to 14.04 trusty and my iBus seems to be upgraded too. I have a small menu bar that keeps on popping whenever I try to type in a text. I need to get rid of this, anyone can tell me how?
[19:14] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Not supported and never very good, meant to install under windows on ntfs.
[19:15] <blizzard_> sigh! i have the distro and cant install :(
[19:15] <jhutchins> blizzard_: debootstrap.
[19:16] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Is there no install option in the menu?
[19:16] <blizzard_> jhutchins: which menu are you ref to?
[19:16] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Oh, you're not actually running the live CD.
[19:16] <blizzard_> i already am no 11.10
[19:16] <vladhaund> blizzard_, are you trying to install an ubuntu distro for the first time?
[19:17] <Bucky21659> Hi, I had a login sound set up to play, but ever since I upgraded from Trusty development to Trusty release canberra-gtk-play isn't working now, can anyone help me?
[19:17] <blizzard_> vladhaund: am on 11.10. have a cd which has 13.04. i want to move to this and then onto 14.04.
[19:17] <SCHAAP137> rofl
[19:17] <jhutchins> vladhaund: He's trying to install it over an older version on a system that will only boot to the HD/existing install.
[19:17] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: there is an option to always hide the menu bar
[19:17] <blizzard_> am nto sure which file to run in the cd to upgrade.
[19:17] <jhutchins> vladhaund: He would like to run the installer from the live CD, but we don't know what the command is.
[19:17] <blizzard_> boot order is not an option
[19:17] <SCHAAP137> suddenly i was unable to login to my server, bad password, then i changed the pass through root @ webconsole, and it wined about my ecryptFS
[19:18] <SCHAAP137> in the end, turned out my Windows keyboard was switched to UK
[19:18] <SCHAAP137> :\
[19:18] <VlperX> ok I think the issue is I used MBR to part it, I needed to use gdisk
[19:18] <blizzard_> vladhaund: jhutchins is right. any hints?
[19:18] <vladhaund> blizzard_, isn't there any option to upgrade your os from the 11.10 itself?
[19:18] <blizzard_> i dont want to download a big pkg from the net for now. prefer quick upgrade or reinstall via cd and then doing an upgrade for 14.04.
[19:19] <blizzard_> vladhaund: i dont mind a reinstall. data has been backedup.
[19:19] <vladhaund> Tiensbakung, I did try to find the settings for it but no luck so far. so I was hoping someone could point me out
[19:19] <jhutchins> vladhaund: chroot to the CD, starx, look at the menu.  You'll probably need to bind-mount /dev and /sys.
[19:19] <vladhaund> blizzard_, then try having a gparted
[19:20] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: is python-ibus installed, it's not a hard dependency for newer ibus
[19:20] <rvdv> blizzard_: your upgrade option will take several hours ... better download an ISO and make a 14.04 DVDD oor USB stick
[19:20] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Actually, you probably need /proc as well.
[19:21] <vladhaund> my iBus is working fine. I just need to toggle of the annoying popup menu
[19:21] <blizzard_> i think i better download 14.04 and then hope it allworks!
[19:21] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: yes, python-ibus is for the configuring window, not ibus
[19:21] <jhutchins> rvdv: He can't boot from anything except the HD.
[19:21] <julio> hi
[19:21] <blizzard_> rvdv: aye 66
[19:22] <rvdv> jhutchins: that sux
[19:22] <vladhaund> it is installed Tiensbakung
[19:24] <Tiensbakung> vladhaund: don't remember the exact command, try with tab-completion, ibus-? to find the right command for firing up the configure window
[19:25] <vladhaund> Tiensbakung, ok, I'll do that, thanks
[19:25] <blizzard_> jhutchins: vladhaund  will gparted help in removing existing partitions and then loading froma  cd?
[19:26] <vladhaund> you need to either make a usb boot of it or burn a cd boot and it will remove your partition. or you can manipulate your partition
[19:27] <Castaneda> Greetings
[19:28] <vladhaund> brb reboot
[19:28] <aarobc> lol, now that I have steam working so well in ubuntu 14.04 I forget what OS I'm booted into
[19:28] <Castaneda> I got a question... What is the first thing that encounters an incoming packet? the tcp wrappers or the firewall?
[19:29] <Pici> Castaneda: thats probably a better question for ##networking than for #ubuntu
[19:29] <Castaneda> ohh thanks and sorry
[19:29] <jhutchins> blizzard_: You can run gparted from within your existing system, and you can run it from the chroot (it's on the live CD).  It's just a graphical partitioning utility.  You can use fdisk for that too.
[19:30] <nighty-_> daftykins, ok got it
[19:30] <jhutchins> blizzard_: There is a problem in that if anything goes wrong with the upgrade, you've effectively bricked your system.
[19:30] <nighty-_> daftykins, it was somehow my .local that was screwed up
[19:30] <nighty-_> works now
[19:30] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Recovering/resetting/removing the BIOS password is probably worth some time & research.
[19:30] <blizzard_> thanks jhutchins. downloading the 14.04 iso and hope it runs from a liveusb :)
[19:31] <nighty-_> daftykins, thanks for the hint and directions , that helped :)
[19:31] <blizzard_> jhutchins: assuming i have the iso downloaded can i run it directly from the current ubnutu rather than making a live cd/usb?
[19:32] <VlperX> how do I change the sector size when creating a partition with gdisk?
[19:32] <rodsmith> VlperX: You don't.
[19:32] <jhutchins> blizzard_: You can mount an iso via loopback.
[19:32] <Jordan_U> blizzard_: You can configure grub to loop boot the iso from your internal hard drive and load it into RAM at boot (so that the internal drive can then be unmounted).
[19:32] <VlperX> rodsmith, well I need to. So what should I sue tod o it?
[19:32] <jhutchins> blizzard_: Think about this though, you're going to delete the partition that the iso is on.  Recipie for disaster.
[19:33] <VlperX> my drive must be 4096, but gdisk sets it to 512
[19:33] <rodsmith> VIperX: You can't. It's set in firmware.
[19:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:33] <VlperX> well it won't let me mount it..
[19:33] <Jordan_U> VlperX: How did you create the filesystem on sdd1?
[19:33] <ac_slater> hey guys I just installed 1204 (I know, I should have gone with 1404, but this is a temp install) and my key layout is odd. I selected english, etc but '-' also presses ' , and '[' presses F6... sigh.  I thought sanctum2 supported linux but it's not launching from steam
[19:35] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: so pressing some keys does the wrong keys instead?
[19:35] <ac_slater> I have the same laptop next to it with ubuntu and I've duplicated the keyboard settings and it's still odd
[19:35] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: pressing some keys enters multiple keys
[19:35] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: I never thought of it not being a software issues ...
[19:35] <ac_slater> issue *
[19:36] <sebsebseb> aarobc: sure loads of people game with Linux, well Humble Bundle ones etc :).   if you got Steam issues though, we probably can't help much here
[19:36] <Jordan_U> aarobc: Try #ubuntu-steam .
[19:36] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: but both quote and minus press quote AND minue
[19:36] <ac_slater> minus *
[19:36] <aarobc> Jordan_U: will try there thanks
[19:36] <VlperX> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368471/
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: maybe you can change the keyboard layout a bit in the settings or something?  you said tempory install, but why not 14.04 curious
[19:37] <majod> hi. my motherboard sound has this feature that when i plugin headphones to front panel, speakers automatically mute...but since i downgraded my VIDEO driver, now when i plugin the headphones, speakers keep playing...i mean...how does this even relate... ?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> aarobc: You're welcome.
[19:37] <ac_slater> sebsebseb: cause I couldnt get the ISO to boot via grub4dos ;)
[19:37] <VlperX> Jordan_U, and /dev/sdd1       2.0T  199M  1.9T   1% /mnt
[19:37] <VlperX> why only 2T?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> ac_slater: what's grub4dos ?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> oh just over 1800 in here, more than usaul
[19:38] <Jordan_U> VlperX: Probably because sdd1 is only 2 TiB. Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l". Clearly though, you're not having any trouble mounting it.
[19:39] <VlperX> nope it's not 2TB
[19:39] <Jordan_U> VlperX: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[19:39] <VlperX>  parted -l
[19:39] <VlperX> oops
[19:39] <VlperX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368489/
[19:39] <Bluewolf> Anyone around here familiar with themes, Ubuntu 14.04. I downloaded a them but I want to change the colour of the top toolbar as is too dark against the dash?
[19:40] <Tiensbakung> ac_slater: do you have a usb stick? then no need to fiddle with grub4dos
[19:41] <VlperX> actually the mounting was another issue.. now why is this only showing as 2tb?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: Booting any version of Ubuntu via grub2 is easy and reliable: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[19:43] <ac_slater> Tiensbakung: I like booting ISOs via old ass grub... it's fun. But yea updating to grub2 might be better
[19:43] <ac_slater> also my keyboard problem is hardware, not the layout... thanks all
[19:49] <ac_slater>  /close
[19:50] <ac_slater> oops ;)
[19:53] <Rubas> Hi all
[19:55] <deadly_> hi
[19:58] <vertago1> Anyone know why cgroup-bin all the sudden depends on cgroup-lite in 14.04lts?
[19:59] <androok> dpkg question - anyone know why when installing a package via `sudo dpkg -i myPackage.deb` it would create directories with a user account instead of root?
[20:01] <CarlFK> androok: postgresql will create a postgres user, and then make that user own some stuff.  is that what you mean?
[20:01] <TacoTacos> Hello, I just installed Chrbutu on my acer c710 chromebook. Everything is installed but I can't seem to get it to boot into linux.
[20:01] <vertago1> androok I think a deb file is really just a tar so if the permissions arn't root when they are tarred intially then they won't be after extracting
[20:01] <VlperX> can I have mv show the transfer speed?
[20:01] <androok> CarlFK: no, unfortunately.
[20:01] <majod> can someone help me debug why suddenly ubuntu decides that it will keep playing sound from my speakers even when headphones are plugged in?
[20:01] <jhutchins> VlperX: rsync can.
[20:02] <androok> vertago1: that's pretty much what I thought - the user in the deb isn't present on the system, so is it just randomly choosing a user?
[20:02] <vertago1> androok it usually goes by uid
[20:02] <VlperX> I see
[20:02] <vertago1> so if they user doesn't exist it would just list a number for the uid
[20:02] <Jordan_U> androok: a .deb package contains scripts which can do whatever they want, it's very bad form for them to modify "user accounts" (as opposed to the accounts of system users), but there is nothing stopping them (unless they're part of the official repositories, in which case such a package would never be allowed to be uploaded in the first place).
[20:03] <jhutchins> androok: It uses the numerical ID, which may or may not match someone on your system.
[20:03] <androok> vertago1: ah ok. so there's a chance that the UID they used for their user that's present is actually the same UID as the random user on my system
[20:03] <vertago1> androok: yes
[20:03] <androok> ok, awesome. that makes way more sense now.
[20:03] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, my /etc folder is empty, I'm worried something weird is going on, any ideas?
[20:03] <vertago1> 1000 is usually the start of users you create
[20:03] <vertago1> anyone know a good irc for configuring cgroups?
[20:04] <androok> kept seeing weird things happening with a specific user when I installed packages from IBM
[20:04] <androok> their "spark" user must map to the same UID as one of my users.
[20:05] <cactuswizard> weird, my Ubuntu claims that there's no newer version available although before restart it informed twice about 14.04
[20:05] <jhutchins> androok: Yeah, some systems start user accounts at 500, some 1000.  Service accounts are supposed to be below that.
[20:05] <vertago1> androok: if you did useradd -u 1050 spark it would make a user with the uid 1050
[20:05] <cer> hi everybody!
[20:05] <cer> I have a WD MyBook 3TB external disk. Gparted sees it appropriately as NTFS. I cannot mount it though!
[20:05] <cer> Why?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> androok: You'll have to ask the creator of the package (or read its postinst script). Again, they can do whatever they want, including things that would get their package removed from the archive if it were officially part of Debian/Ubuntu.
[20:06] <androok> Thanks for reminding me about the UID "non-existent user" ownership thing.
[20:06] <cer> It is a USB and I am using 13.10 at 64bit
[20:06] <Jordan_U> cer: How are you trying to mount it and what happens when you do?
[20:06] <androok> Jordan_U: Yeah, the package scripts should really have some better ownership management.
[20:07] <cactuswizard> !ubottu upgrade
[20:07] <cer> Jordan_U: I just connect the USB .... nothing happens. If I connect my 1TB, it shows in the devices and I just click on it and mount it.
[20:07] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "dmesg".
[20:07] <PaRaD0xxR> all started after I found gapcmon to monitor my apc ups, was trying to configure that and then I can't even get apcstatus to return anything
[20:08] <vertago1_> sorry my client is acting up
[20:08] <cactuswizard> !ubottu
[20:08] <ktk1> <- Looking for display driver help and hoping someone's got the magic
[20:09] <cer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368649/
[20:10] <cactuswizard> is there any way to upgrade Ubuntu without waiting if you have earlier pressed "remind me later" when notified?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> cactuswizard: Yes.
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | cactuswizard
[20:10] <cer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7368657/
[20:10] <cactuswizard> Jordan_U: thanks
[20:10] <cer> The first one s the output of dmesg, the second one is the output of partd -l
[20:10] <cer> Jordan_U: everything seems to be in order
[20:11] <Jordan_U> cer: Except that parted doesn't see any filesystem there.
[20:11] <cer> Jordan_U: oh flick ....
[20:11] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebint the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/".
[20:12] <cer> Jordan_U: it is strange though .... W7 sees filesystem and files
[20:12] <cer> Jordan_U: wait, brb
[20:12] <ktk1> Running old hw. radeon xpress 200; using open source driver (radeon) I get a signal frequency out of range.  Previously switched to fglrx driver, which fixed it.  Can't seem to get the radeon driver to work and really don't know where to start.  Seen the issue all over the net, but no fixes seem to work for me.  Any help?
[20:13] <PaRaD0xxR> o wait, etc is fine, nvm
[20:13] <majod> can someone help me debug why suddenly ubuntu decides that it will keep playing sound from my speakers even when headphones are plugged in?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> PaRaD0xxR: What made you originally think it was empty?
[20:15] <PaRaD0xxR> well...I had just installed gapcmon...
[20:15] <PaRaD0xxR> and it's not loading...read some website somewhere...and I went to check apcupsd.conf...and its empty
[20:16] <PaRaD0xxR> which is supposed to be...in /etc...maybe not the right /etc tho, noob here
[20:17] <PaRaD0xxR> which, I suppose, is my real question now...sudo apcstatus returns nothing
[20:18] <PaRaD0xxR> the apc still seems to work normally, unplugged it, and everything stayed on...but I have no way to check it
[20:18] <PaRaD0xxR> not sure what is going on
[20:19] <TacoTacos> If I use a script to install 13.04 will it just overwrite 12.04?
[20:20] <reisio> TacoTacos: "a script" is pretty vague
[20:20] <reisio> "a script" can do almost anything
[20:20] <TacoTacos> curl -L -O http://goo.gl/s9ryd; sudo bash s9ryd
[20:20] <domovoi> how do i install 	libpng12.so.0 and 	libcurl.so.4  on 14.04
[20:21] <PaRaD0xxR> Jordan_U, any idea how to fix my apc config then? :)
[20:21] <kostkon> !find libpng12.so.0
[20:21] <reisio> TacoTacos: my guess is that assumes an empty disk
[20:22] <reisio> TacoTacos: you can see where it partitions and formats as if there is nothing of worth on a disk
[20:22] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: Why are you installing 13.04 anyway, I thought that was EOL.
[20:22] <kostkon> domovoi, sudo apt-get install libpng12-0 libcurl3
[20:22] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: Why not just a normal install or an upgrade?
[20:23] <domovoi> thanks
[20:23] <TacoTacos> Jhutchins because it is for a chromebook
[20:23] <JOY_> guys .... i m having a problem with my datacard ..
[20:23] <JOY_> i m using 13.04 ... n i use iball 3g stick ...
[20:24] <JOY_> while runnig  the dialup bash file it is showing such kind of error
[20:24] <JOY_> "...............................start dial up...............................
[20:24] <JOY_> /bin/ls: cannot access /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory
[20:24] <JOY_> Please check the datacard is plugged in and the cdrom has been ejected!
[20:24] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: That must imply something I don't understand.
[20:24] <s2013> how do i switch from one work space to another quickly
[20:25] <reisio> s2013: historically, CTRL+ALT+left/right arrow
[20:25] <reisio> no doubt configurable still
[20:25] <s2013> k let me try
[20:25] <s2013> that works
[20:25] <s2013> that works great
[20:25] <s2013> i wonder if anything quicker
[20:25] <reisio> quicker?
[20:26] <Tiensbakung> s2013, make two aliases if you frequently switch between two workspaces
[20:26] <s2013> how would i do that Tiensbakung
[20:26] <reisio> you could try moving the mouse to the side of the screen and turning the mousewheel
[20:26] <jcvfen> http://cl.ly/image/0j2N2k0D3n2k/IMG_3170.JPG
[20:26] <s2013> quicker int he sense that i need to move my hand down instead of being on the touch typing position
[20:26] <jcvfen> http://cl.ly/image/0u0e2h1D3p1Y/IMG_3171.JPG
[20:27] <s2013> basically i dont wanna take my hands off the home positiot
[20:27] <s2013> position
[20:27] <reisio> oh, then reconfigure the shortcut
[20:27] <reisio> or use a different window manager, like wmii
[20:27] <s2013> let me check
[20:27] <s2013> how do i reconfigure shortcut
[20:28] <Tiensbakung> s2013, alias cw1="cd ~/Workspace1", likewise for workspace2, put them in .bashrc, launch a new terminal, and you are good to go
[20:28] <s2013> gotcha
[20:28] <s2013> k thanks
[20:29] <JOY_> help guys !
[20:29] <hotaronohanako> ?
[20:29] <reisio> JOY_: k
[20:30] <jhutchins> JOY_: Wha tis an iball 3g stick?
[20:31] <jhutchins> JOY_: Do you have documentation from the people who supplied to software?
[20:33] <jhutchins> JOY_: This only works if you respond.
[20:33]  * jhutchins goes for coffee.
[20:34] <cer> Jordan_U: I have gone back to W7, created a folder on the disk, and now ubuntu sees the disk
[20:35] <cer> Jordan_U: but the output of parted -l still doe snot show any filesystem
[20:36] <cer> Jordan_U: if I look at the output of the mount command I see: /dev/sdb1 on /media/cer/My Book type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[20:36] <cer> Jordan_U: what do you think?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> cer: Since you never gave the output of the mount command when it wasn't working, I can't really say what the provious state of things was. Please pastebin the current output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:38] <Jordan_U> s/provious/previous/
[20:38] <cer> Jordan_U: absolutely teh same as before.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> cer: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: nothing happening
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="My Book" UUID="54D8D96AD8D94ABE" TYPE="ntfs"
[20:41] <cer> Jordan_U: re issued the command
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> b'jour i don't seem to be able to login anymore this is my account http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1188991 You have requested a new password for the Ubuntu One using the following email address:  xxx  This email address is however not associated with any Ubuntu One accounts.
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> any ideas?
[20:42] <aeLiXihr> thanks!
[20:43] <swordsmanz> sexual attraction to swiss cheese, perversion or legitimate orientation ... discuss
[20:43] <cer> by the way, what is the official application for synchornising two directories in ubuntu?
[20:44] <Tiensbakung> cer: rsync
[20:44] <swordsmanz> ^
[20:45] <cer> Tiensbakung: sorry, using GUI, it is for my wife
[20:45] <Jordan_U> swordsmanz: No. Please stay on topic and appropriate for this channel.
[20:45] <cer> Tiensbakung: unison does not seem to be in the offical repository
[20:46] <Tiensbakung> cer: there should be some gui wrapper for rsync
[20:47] <swordsmanz> personally I'm not a cheese lover in that way tho camembert is tasty
[20:49] <t4nk891> hi all
[20:50] <t4nk891> please, help me with this question: is there a way to boot the official LiveCD of 14.04amd64 in alternative mode?
[20:50] <ktk1> <- wondering if messeges are showing up to others
[20:51] <Michael87> so I finished reinstalling ubuntu 14.04 on an old latitude d510 and after all the updates its running perfectly considering how dated the hardware is. I checked the cpu and it seemed to take the same amount as xubuntu but I could be wrong. however I transfered some of my favorite themes from my main laptop to it and traid a custom theme. The cpu spiked from 8% to 15% or more. is a custom theme bad on the cpu 0_o. This is for a family me
[20:51] <Michael87> mber and I doubt they want to stick with orange theme the whole time they have this computer
[20:51] <cer> Tiensbakung: I thought that we had a default synchroniser
[20:51] <Jordan_U> t4nk891: There is no such thing as "aternative mode". There used to be "Aternate CDs" that used debian installer instead of a LiveCD environment, those have been discontinued. If you want to use d-i you can use the minimal install images.
[20:52] <YuLin> Hi there!
[20:52] <YuLin> Could anyone help me with IPSec and iptables?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Michael87: is a custom theme bad
[20:52] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: ty. Any link?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Michael87: hmm maybe a bit, what kind of theme?
[20:52] <jadz> Hey guys, bit of a weird one - Bios detects new drive (2TB) however trying to install via USB does not seem to detect this new drive. sudo fdisk -l shows only the USB drive (with fdisk doesn't support GPT errors but thats related to the USB drive image). Any ideas?
[20:53] <JOY_> which kind of documentation u r talking about >?
[20:53] <JOY_> jhutchins?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> !minimal | t4nk891
[20:53] <Michael87> sebsebseb, gtk3 themes. rainy day blues is the one I tested
[20:53] <Jordan_U> t4nk891: Why do you want to use debian-installer?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Michael87: is this for Unity or GTK 3 ?
[20:54] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I assumed they both use gtk3
[20:54] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: miniISO will be fine. Awesome for providing me the link! really ty! ;)
[20:54] <Tiensbakung> cer: Sorry, have no clue, I always use rsync. Maybe check out DejaDup, it's a very simple tool for backup
[20:54] <cer> Tiensbakung: found grsync
[20:54] <cer> Tiensbakung: grsync seems to have it all, I normally use in from command line, but my wife is not yet there!
[20:55] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: I'll use it fro installing a minimal ubuntu desktop version
[20:55] <t4nk891> *for
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I am considering maybe putting Ubuntu  14.04 on my Mum's old lap top,  since it being longer support fvie years,  instead of what's left of the 18  months for the one I was thinking.  If so I would just keep the theme on default,  but probably won't be much difference realy with a change of theme, when it comes to performance,  it's eye  candy
[20:55] <Meris> I want to do a clean install of 14.04 (currently on 12.04 64 Bit) . My /home drive is encrypted and I can access it on my current system. Is there a way to make a clean install and still use the same encrypted /home drive?
[20:55] <darkseid> Greetings folks..
[20:55] <Tiensbakung> cer: yeah, I undertand;-)
[20:56] <Meris> I do not have enough space on another volume to copy the encrypted data to.
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Michael87: personally I would stick with the defalt theme, of whatever  distro I put on for such a person :)
[20:56] <cer> Tiensbakung: she has started using it though, but not really for a full synchronisation of 360GB of files
[20:57] <macscam1> when downloading a file in Firefox I am being told that I need to write-enable /tmp
[20:57] <darkseid> I would like to install lightdm on kubuntu. Is it possible without install whole ubuntu-desktop?
[20:57] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I'm a sucker for eye candy. I tried to revert to xubuntu or lubuntu on this old thing. Surprisingly it didn't make a huge difference from the new lts. I love unity so this is a huge plus. she can have hotcorners and window snapping.
[20:57] <sebsebseb> darkseid: yep  sudo apt-get install lightdm or something like that
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Michael87: well Unity is thighed to Ubuntu so stuck using Ubuntu for that really.  I don't think themeing it will make much difference when it comes to performance though
[20:59] <xangua> darkseid: doesn't kununtu
[20:59] <darkseid> sebsebseb: It says that is already version. I'll run: dpkg-reconfigure kdm -- and see if is available.....
[20:59] <darkseid> I got an error also: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[20:59] <xangua> Doesn't kubuntu 14.04 already used lightdm by default? darkseid
[21:00] <OerHeks> xangua +1
[21:00] <t4nk891> Jordan_U: too bad... Mini ISO won't boot in UEFI environment and my PC doesn't provide BIOS compatible mode... Damn: I'll use the 14.04amd64 standard Desktop version
[21:00] <Michael87> sebsebseb, oddly on this old thing animations seems slightly more fluid. maybe the themes wheren't designed for 14.04 os. It doesn't effect the speed on my main laptop. mine is an inspiron e1505 dual core system
[21:00] <darkseid> xangua: For me is kdm.. Lightdm is ubuntu's, right?
[21:01] <Meris> I want to do a clean install of 14.04 (I'm currently on 12.04 64 Bit) . My /home drive is encrypted and I can access it on my current system. Is there a way to make a clean install and still use the same encrypted /home drive? I do not have enough space on another volume to copy the encrypted data to.
[21:02] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I haven't really used Unity  much to be honest for quite some time,  since other distro's and GNOME Shell,  but yeah assuming it's like GNOME Shell in that kind of way I would have thought anything animated could slow down a bit
[21:02] <xangua> What release are you using? Are you sure? And yes you can install any dm you want
[21:02] <xangua> darkseid:
[21:02] <darkseid> xangua: I'm running Kubuntu 14.04..
[21:02] <theborger> hey ? can someoen tell me how to get GDM to not startup at boot up?
[21:03] <theborger> i need to remove nvidia drivers, but i am in ESXI, cant get to Alt+f1
[21:03] <theborger> to log in
[21:03] <zzunderscore> I am trying to find a download location for an Ubuntu "Alternate CD" that has a command line only install option. The "minimal" ISO isn't an option and the regular ISOs don't appear to have a CLI-only install option..
[21:03] <zzunderscore> The documentation references these "Alternate CD"s many times, but they are very difficult to find
[21:03] <Meris> zzunderscore, try the server version
[21:04] <zzunderscore> k
[21:04] <zzunderscore> ty\
[21:04] <Meris> np^
[21:05] <reisio> theborger: chvt
[21:05] <darkseid> I would like to use the beautiful ubuntu's login screen on Kubuntu.... Thinking 'bout install ubuntu desktop, make nauseated.... Will make a mess.
[21:05] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I actually tried the new gnome shell last not before going back to unity. the gnome shell actually is promising and kinda cool. But again it didn't give me a boost in speed over unity. But looking at it I feel that it should have. Maybe the gnome desktop has a few kinks to work out I don't know. But it reminded me of the android os. If anything it made me thing that this is what they should use to port android apps over or he
[21:05] <Michael87> ll android and ubuntu need to start working together already lol
[21:05] <xangua> darkseid: what is stopping you then
[21:06] <cer> what is the best filesystem for storing 10000 of small files (4Mb to 40MB)?
[21:06] <theborger> reisio: no idea wtf that menas man
[21:06] <reisio> theborger: it's a command, run it
[21:06] <darkseid> all right...
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Michael87: well GNOME Shell is also 3.10  rather than the latest 3.12 in Ubuntu GNOME
[21:06] <darkseid> all right....
[21:06] <reisio> theborger: chvt 2
[21:06] <cer> ext4, NTFS, HFS+? best also = stable .... so btrfs probably does not apply!
[21:06] <reisio> hfs+, heh
[21:07] <Michael87> sebsebseb, I think ubuntu gnome 14.04 comes with 3.12 on its iso. But I'm just assuming
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Michael87: no no it comes with GNOME 3.10, but there's a ppa for those that really want the latest stable 3.12 vesion
[21:08] <ktk1> Is this messege visible to anyone, or is it invisible?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ktk1: nope your invisible :d
[21:08] <Meris> Does anyone know how to revert an encrypted drive on 12.04 to a normal one without moving the data? (no space left to that)
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ktk1: yes we see yhou
[21:08] <ktk1> hehe Thanks.  That's what I was shooting for
[21:09] <Michael87> sebsebseb, ah. I see. That might explain a few things. But still  for now I think unity is the way to go. especially for non linux users. I would try zorin but they take forever after the next ubuntu is released. Zorin looks like they are still using 13.10
[21:09] <oldwzd> Meris: best way would be to get a external drive and copy all data, then start all over..
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Michael87: getting off topic a bit now, but curious to know why you think Unity is way to go etc.  pm me ),   or someone may be like that's not support anyhmore
[21:10] <Meris> oldwzd, that's why I appended the phrase: I don't have enough space on any available drive external or internal to move all the present data.
[21:10] <mustafa> GR
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Michael87: I do hoever from waht I have seen, that Unity has probably this added user friendly really for new users etc,  than GNOME Shell, by default I mean and such yeah
[21:11] <sebsebseb> think that
[21:11] <DannyBrown> How do I create swap space?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> DannyBrown: gparted I guess
[21:11] <Meris> DannyBrown, makeswp
[21:11] <sebsebseb> your already insatlled?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Meris: There is no practical way to unencrypt and entire partition without another partition to copy the data to.
[21:12] <DannyBrown> Meris: thanks
[21:12] <ktk1> I'm trying to figure how to fix signal frequency out of range when I'm using the radeon driver. The fglrx driver doesn't give me that error messege
[21:12] <Mantissa> I'm trying to hc
[21:13] <oldwzd> Meris: as far i know, you will not be able to reverse an enryption without proper extra data space. thus you will need another drive. or depending on the nature of the data you want to save. you could use a online storage solution.
[21:13] <Mantissa> I'm trying to change the color of an inactive window bar (that has close minimise etc buttons). Where in a theme is such specified?
[21:14] <Meris> Jordan_U, oldwzd  hmm, that *is* a pity. That should probably be in the disclaimer when presenting the option to encrypt your drive ;-) Well, it seems I'm in the market for yet another external drive then..
[21:14] <Meris> Jordan_U, oldwzd , thx for the info :-)
[21:14] <jadz> Hey guys, bit of a weird one - Bios detects new drive (2TB) however trying to install via USB does not seem to detect this new drive. sudo fdisk -l shows only the USB drive (with fdisk doesn't support GPT errors but thats related to the USB drive image). Any ideas?
[21:15] <linuxuz3r> how is the new catalyst drivers? on linux
[21:15] <linuxuz3r> is it stable?
[21:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu driver tool provides only stable drivers, so yes.
[21:19] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[21:21] <computer_> hiii
[21:22] <Guest6499> Hello
[21:22] <jiffe98> one of my 14.04 machines dropped network again
[21:22] <jiffe98> no one else has noticed this problem?
[21:22] <Guest6499> It happened to me once, right after upgrading from 13.10. Hasn't happened since then though.
[21:23] <computer_> how are u???
[21:23] <jiffe98> its happened to me 3 times in the last week
[21:23] <JOY_> just fine ... as well ... wt abt u computer ?!
[21:24] <jiffe98> twice today
[21:24] <jiffe98> ifdown and ifup brings it back
[21:24] <Guest6499> Wow... What are your machine specs?
[21:24] <jiffe98> this is a virtual machine
[21:25] <Guest6499> Oh alright then. I'm not sure I can help you, as I have no experience with virtual machines
[21:25] <computer_> i am new to this chat
[21:25] <reisio> computer_: hi :)
[21:25] <computer_> hi
[21:25] <jiffe98> we've been running this way since 2008 and 8.04 without this kind of trouble
[21:25] <JOY_> den u gona ...freaking enjoy it computer !
[21:26] <mohab> hi all
[21:26] <Meris> hi mohab, how can we help you
[21:27] <mohab> This is the first time I use chat
[21:28] <mohab> Can you explain to me about this program
[21:28] <reisio> mohab: chat program, type, speak, end
[21:28] <ktk1> So, how do I fix the signal frequency out of range thing?  Fixed it before using fglrx driver and setting resolution in grub.  Using open source radeon driver now, and I'm back to dealing with signal frequency.  With the open source driver I have to boot with a different monitor, then switch back to the monitor I use normally.
[21:30] <jiffe98> are there any resources that could be used up that might cause routing to stop working?
[21:30] <Tiensbakung> mohab: just type in your question, anyone know the answer will try to help you
[21:30] <mohab> how can i speak to many People
[21:30] <theborger> so nvidia is fixed
[21:30] <theborger> and got vmware tools install
[21:31] <mohab> ok
[21:31] <jiffe98> mohab: ad in the paper?
[21:31] <theborger> but resolution is shit. max is 1176x885
[21:31] <Tiensbakung> mohab: simple typing, everyone can see you, reference people's names will cause their attention
[21:32] <mohab> ok
[21:32] <Meris> I'm about to setup a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04 on an SSD and I want to keep the amount of writes to a minimum. swap and /var will be setup on a proper HDD because there are many writes to these partitions. Are there any other default mountpoints I want to keep off the SSD?
[21:32] <mohab> This is good I liked this program
[21:33] <reisio> Meris: realistically you will want to replace your ssd before it will die from writes
[21:33] <reisio> not worth worrying about
[21:33] <zykotick9> reisio: i strongly agree.
[21:33] <reisio> also if you can afford an ssd, you probably won't be swapping that much
[21:33] <reisio> 'cause you'll have plenty of ram
[21:33] <mohab> I Write Is Everybody sees what I write؟؟؟
[21:34] <Meris> reisio, true, I have 8GB of RAM
[21:34] <reisio> and that is said in a world where 2-4GB is _not_ "plenty", but commonplace
[21:34] <Passwd> how-do-i-install-development-tools
[21:34] <Passwd> ubuntu 12.10
[21:34] <reisio> zykotick9: you're so agreeable :)
[21:35] <mohab> I want to ask a question
[21:35] <Meris> Then ask it
[21:35] <Passwd> how-do-i-install-development-tools ?
[21:37] <clzielin> i know this sounds like dumb question, is the latest ubuntu release ( TrustyTahr )?
[21:37] <clzielin> or something else.  .. new user here
[21:37] <clzielin> trying to install ATI/AMD drivers following this link -- http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[21:38] <tpw_rules> is is possible to encrypt a pre-existing partition in place using any linux solution (truecrypt, luks, etc)?
[21:38] <mohab> I am working on Ubuntu 12.4 when I enter into c  Receive an error message              mount -t ntfs-3g -o remove_hiberfile /dev/sda1 /media/5A34C62634C6054B
[21:38] <reisio> tpw_rules: don't cross post
[21:38] <clzielin> but having issues with trying to Create .deb packages
[21:38] <Meris> clzielin, the latest Ubuntu release is called Trusty Tahr (released on the 17th of april ) , but there is another release in development.
[21:39] <ktk1> Tschüß
[21:39] <TacoTacos> Just finished install ubuntu and my trackpad went to crap
[21:39] <Tiensbakung> Meris: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives has a good article about using SSD
[21:39] <Walker_> hi all
[21:39] <jhutchins> mohab: It's important what the error message actually says.
[21:40] <Walker_> i just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and after installing, the server is stuck while booting
[21:40] <mohab> I do I solve this problem to enter termenal
[21:40] <JOY_> hi Walker !
[21:40] <JOY_> Walker_
[21:40] <Walker_> its stuck at "Adding 8107004k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across: 8107004k SSFS
[21:40] <jhutchins> Walker_: At what point?
[21:40] <Walker_> i have to say, this is my first EVER (!) ubuntu server install :D
[21:41] <reisio> Walker_: hit CTRL+c
[21:41] <Meris> Tiensbakung, thanks for the link!
[21:41] <JOY_> to enter bios terminal mohab: you should click ctrl + alt + f2
[21:41] <clzielin> is there an installation guide currently available for TrustyTahr like this one --  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[21:41] <Passwd> hey my sourclist failed
[21:41] <clzielin> trying to install ATI/AMD drivers
[21:42] <mohab> its says Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[21:42] <mohab> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted
[21:42] <mohab> The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows
[21:42] <mohab> properly, or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option, or
[21:42] <mohab> mount the volume read-write with the 'remove_hiberfile' mount option.
[21:42] <mohab> For example type on the command line:
[21:42] <unopaste> mohab you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:42] <Walker_> nothing happens at CTRL+C
[21:42] <reisio> Walker_: ALT+F2?
[21:42] <Passwd> help me pls http://paste.debian.net/96665/
[21:42] <Walker_> reisio: nothing happens
[21:43] <Passwd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu20.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[21:43] <reisio> Walker_: reboot?
[21:43] <cer> apologies but how stable is ubuntu's btrfs?
[21:43] <Walker_> reisio: then its stuck at the same positopmn
[21:43] <cer> I am running 13.10 64 bit, up to date
[21:43] <reisio> cer: about as stable as anybody's btrfs
[21:44] <tom__> synaptic storage manager header missing
[21:44] <Tiensbakung> Meris, also try iotop -oPa, to see what process is doing a lot of I/O
[21:44] <mohab> I can solve this problem and access to c
[21:44] <Walker_> other ideas?
[21:45] <mohab> But all I want a solution to this problem will not arise and radically
[21:45] <cer> reisio: well, not sure really, since btrfs-progs cannot be found ....
[21:46] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will. Ah, so many useful articles on the ArchLinux wiki, I am tempted to try out Arch to see what that community is like...
[21:46] <Passwd> http://paste.debian.net/96665/
[21:46] <TacoTacos> arch is pretty awesome
[21:46] <TacoTacos> but they are kinda assholes sometimes
[21:47] <Walker_> i can strat in recovery mode
[21:47] <reisio> Walker_: boot your live OS and redo swap or something
[21:47] <Meris> TacoTacos, I'm running a helpdesk, so I can manage most of them ;-)
[21:47] <Tiensbakung> mohab: sounds like you have your windows OS hibernated rather than powered off, try commonly power off your windows
[21:47] <reisio> cer: if using btrfs were a good idea for you, I promise you'd be able to find it :)
[21:47] <yeats> Passwd: do 'sudo apt-get update' and try again
[21:47] <JOY_> these media codecs installation is making me frustating !!!
[21:48] <cer> reisio: fair enough, that is a good indication I guess
[21:48] <mohab> yap
[21:48] <TacoTacos> Meris one time I asked and question and I was running ArchBang but not Archlinux. They told me to leave
[21:48] <TacoTacos> The only difference between arch bang and arch linux is the WM
[21:48] <cer> reisio: thanks a lot!
[21:49] <Meris> TacoTacos, whoa! talk about strict, but I think we'd better discuss this on #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[21:49] <mohab> Thanks  alot
[21:49] <Tiensbakung> Meris, you should. I actually have two laptops, one is running debian now, one is runing arch, you will learn a lot using arch
[21:49] <reisio> :)
[21:50] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will, though I dread the depency hells of old...
[21:50] <Meris> Tiensbakung, I will, though I dread the dependency hells of old... (Oops, typo there)
[21:50] <mohab> Another thing I liked how the program so that I can send a message to warn a particular person, such as what do you do
[21:51] <mohab> ??
[21:52] <Meris> mohab, those are called IRC scripts. They are used by the operators of this channel to keep things manageable. But this channel's main topic is ubuntu support, not a howto on IRC servers.
[21:52] <jhutchins> mohab: The error message contains instructions to solve the problem, simply follow them or shut Windows down properly.
[21:53] <TacoTacos> Is it a pain to adjust a trackpad on a chromebook?
[21:54] <mohab> @jhutchins thank you
[21:54] <reisio> TacoTacos: compared to what?
[21:54] <reisio> certainly not compared to getting another OS onto a chromebook :p
[21:54] <TacoTacos> I dunno in general. Not sure what I need to do to get the trackpad not to work like crap
[21:54] <reisio> define 'like crap'
[21:55] <TacoTacos> It stops sensing my finger
[21:55] <TacoTacos> There is a fix for the c710 but the the zip is gone too fix it
[21:55] <mohab> Meris
[21:56] <Meris> mohab, yes?
[21:56] <mohab> Do you received alert
[21:57] <ninaneufeld> anyone knows how to activate SD card reader in Thinkpad
[21:57] <jhutchins> TacoTacos: If it was a zip it probably wasn't for linux.
[21:57] <jhutchins> !chromebook
[21:57] <jhutchins> Stupid bot...
[21:57] <mohab> How do I send an alert to someone that my question
[21:58] <mohab> Like you submit to me  mohab, yes?
[21:58] <Meris> mohab, just prefix your question with the nickname of the one you are trying to reach, just as you did with me and as I am doing right now with your name
[21:59] <jhutchins> mohab: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[21:59] <JOY_> any body tell me the name of the codecs to install in 13.04 to play mp3s
[21:59] <reisio> JOY_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:00] <mohab> Meris>>>> Thanks you
[22:01] <Meris> mohab, you should thanbk jhutchins as well, he/ she gave you a very useful link to read a bit about IRC
[22:01] <larrypg> JOY_, or apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <mohab> yap
[22:03] <ccmolik_> so is it unsupported to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 directly?
[22:03] <Pessimist> ccmolik_, iirc it will be once 14.04.1 will be released
[22:03] <Meris> Pessimist, any roadmap for that release?
[22:04] <mohab> I'm English so my English is bad will train myself so I understand what you are talking ...
[22:04] <mohab> You will also read the book so I can correctly
[22:04] <Pessimist> Meris, I think .1 will be released once 14.10 is released
[22:04] <darkseid> I got an error also: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[22:04] <Lachezar> Hey people. I want to upgrade to 14.04, but there are some packages the manager wants to remove, and I do not want it to!
[22:05] <darkseid> How can i fix it?
[22:05] <Lachezar> Those packages are manually installed, and no longer in any repo.
[22:05] <darkseid> Remove lists file?
[22:05] <mohab> Thank you all good luck
[22:06] <Meris> Pessimist, thx for the note.
[22:06] <Pessimist> Meris, .2 when 15.04, .3 when 15.10 and so on
[22:07] <krabador> hi, what's the command line name for "user accounts" setting folder?
[22:08] <Meris> Pessimist, would that also mean that if there is a bug preventing me to install Ubuntu 14.04.0 onto my computer that I should try a nightly instead if that bug has been marked fixed?
[22:08] <darkseid> Guys, I need some help. My system is fresh and is just hanging..
[22:08] <darkseid> The wi-fi media button isn't working.. Is disabled.
[22:08] <Guest74494> i can't download software from the software center, pliz help
[22:09] <Tiensbakung> Krabador: what you really want?
[22:09] <Meris> darkseid, OK, Wifi won't work, is there anything right now that does work?
[22:10] <krabador> Tiensbakung, i need to launch user accounts, in settings, from terminal
[22:10] <harley> hi
[22:10] <harley> i am new here
[22:10] <Meris> krabador, there are better command line tools for user management, what is your end goal?
[22:10] <Guest74494> hii, i can't download software from software center
[22:11] <darkseid> Meris, Is just the button and: --- Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[22:11] <Guest74494> pliz help
[22:11] <willyg_cos> Meris: I looked into the do-release-upgrade option for 12.04 to 14.04 a couple of days ago.  Somewhere on the Ubuntu website it said "Once 14.04.1 is released", and they expected that will be late July 2014...
[22:11] <krabador> Meris, that folder, with my a10 5700 amd, and 8 gb ram, wants 10 minutes to opens
[22:11] <Tiensbakung> Guest74494: How exactly?
[22:13] <Tiensbakung> krabador: try launch ubuntu control center, then user accounts, maybe
[22:13] <Guest74494> Tiens: no install tab available for all software. only source tab
[22:13] <Meris> willyg_cos, hmm, that is a nice estimate. Guess I'll be going for a new install instead. My present system is a bit out of whack, so it will definitely benefit from a fresh install.
[22:13] <JOY_> larrypg : ya dat i hv done but still it is not playing the mp3s and videos !
[22:13] <krabador> Tiensbakung, ok  i try
[22:13] <JOY_> larrypg
[22:15] <hiig_> hey, is anyone able to help me set up raid1? ive got a computer here on the installation screen, but i cant find anything regarding raid. im on lubuntu, but that channel is dead. hoping someone here might be able to help
[22:15] <Tiensbakung> socket: how is your /etc/apt/source.list?
[22:15] <reisio> hiig_: doesn't sound like raid is anything you'd want
[22:16] <hiig_> reisio: why?
[22:16] <reisio> hiig_: doesn't sound like you know what it's for (a lot of people don't)
[22:16] <reisio> it's not a backup system, if that's what you've been thinking
[22:16] <hiig_> redundancy for a cctv server is what im using it for
[22:17] <xum> it kind of is like backup though
[22:17] <reisio> raid is not about data redundancy
[22:17] <reisio> it's about access redundancy
[22:17] <reisio> ...but not with two disks :p
[22:17] <reisio> with two disks it's about employment redundancy, 'cause you'll get fired when things explode :p
[22:17] <hiig_> well whatever the case is, i need to set something up that would allow a computer to continue if one hard disk fails, and not lose any data in the process
[22:17] <reisio> hiig_: you need a lot more disks, then
[22:18] <hiig_> yeah, see, im not made of money, unfortunately
[22:18] <reisio> then you don't want raid
[22:18] <hiig_> whats the alternative?
[22:18] <reisio> try a good old fashioned mirroring backup
[22:18] <reisio> like lsyncd
[22:18] <hiig_> that a terminal command?
[22:19] <reisio> it's probably daemonized
[22:19] <reisio> uses rsync
[22:19] <socket> tiens: ubuntu13.10 studio_saucy salamander_Release i386
[22:19] <Meris> Good night everyone, I'm going to sleep now. Tiensbakung, Pessimist, oldwzd, Jordan_U reisio : Thanks for all the hints,
[22:19] <Tiensbakung> Meris: Good night.
[22:19] <oldwzd> Meris: nn
[22:23] <Tiensbakung> socket, http://askubuntu.com/questions/36484/how-do-i-add-a-software-source
[22:23] <cer> hi everybody again .... so I have finally been able to format the external 3TB disk to ext4 .... now, I would like to mount it so that anyuser can use it .... but I do not seem to be able to do that!
[22:23] <socket> Tiens: thanks, i'll try
[22:24] <Tiensbakung> socket, check the "Ubuntu Software" tab, to see if all sources are ticked
[22:25] <wheatthin> cer, you must add an entry in /etc/fstab with the default users read write permissions
[22:25] <wheatthin> !fstab
[22:25] <cer> wheatthin: it seems to be correct
[22:26] <wheatthin> ok.. then make the drive read and writable to the users group, or a specific users group
[22:26] <wheatthin> of your choice in the terminal
[22:26] <cer> wheatthin: mmmm .... I need really anyone to be able to mount it, on any laptop
[22:26] <cer> brb
[22:26] <wheatthin> cer, right, so anyone in the "users" group should have access.
[22:31] <cer> wheatthin: I do not seem to be able tsort it out ....
[22:31] <cer> wheatthin: the disk is always mounted as root
[22:32] <cer> wheatthin: it is formatted as ext4
[22:32] <darkseid> How to reset my hp's bios to default from ubuntu?
[22:33] <mgolisch> cer: how did you mount it? also what do you mean by mounted as root?
[22:33] <Pessimist> darkseid, what do you mean?
[22:33] <reisio> darkseid: 'default'?
[22:33] <mgolisch> he wants to reset his cmos setting from within linux i guess
[22:33] <cer> mgolisch: the user owning it is root root hence nobody can save or create anything on it
[22:33] <awesomess3> I did it! WoW (World of Warcraft) on/from a LiveUSB with a USB hard drive! :D  http://corey-a.blogspot.com/2014/04/wow-world-of-warcraft-starter-edition.html
[22:33] <Tiensbakung> cer: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/permanently-mount-ext3ext4-drives-with.html, is this helping?
[22:34] <reisio> mgolisch: I would not guess that :p
[22:34] <awesomess3> Corey, oh nooooo
[22:34] <reisio> he probably means grub
[22:34] <reisio> but since we can all communicate, I'll just wait for him to answer :p
[22:34] <cer> mgolisch: Tiensbakung mmmm no .... I am trying to automount so that any user can use it
[22:35] <mgolisch> cer: did you change the permissions on the thing initialy?
[22:35] <darkseid> When I turn my computer on, I have a cmos error. I have to configure something in bios , but, There is nothing to configure. I already tried everything. " reisio, Pessimist
[22:35] <reisio> mgolisch: ha!
[22:35] <cer> mgolisch: what do you mean?
[22:35] <reisio> darkseid: what's the exact error?
[22:35] <darkseid> reisio: cmos error. I really don't know what that means. CMOS ..
[22:36] <reisio> darkseid: that's all it says, 'cmos error'?
[22:36] <wheatthin> hmm sounds like a bios was flashed wrong
[22:36] <mgolisch> cer: by default on newly created extfs volumes only root can write, youd have to change the permissions first
[22:37] <cer> mgolisch: oh
[22:37] <cer> mgolisch: and how do you do that??
[22:37] <darkseid> reisio: OK, it says something like: ! please, check your bios settings. in case of filure, contact hp techcenter. cmos need to be restarted. --
[22:37] <wheatthin> darkseid, were you touching parts while plugged in?
[22:37] <reisio> via /etc/fstab and/or chmod/chown
[22:37] <darkseid> Preety weird..
[22:37] <reisio> darkseid: mmm, did you change any hardware recently?
[22:37] <darkseid> pretty...
[22:37] <darkseid> No..
[22:38] <Bludot> whats that command to show pci display drivers?
[22:38] <Tiensbakung> cer: add a fstab entry, create a script for chown, in some file managers, they allow you run some commands after automount, point it to your script
[22:38] <reisio> well, many BIOSes have a 'reset to defaults' option, if you can get into the BIOS menu
[22:38] <wheatthin> darkseid, how about cpu frequencies?
[22:38] <mgolisch> darkseid: press whatever button is needed to enter the cmos setup utility then, refer to your computers handbook if its doesnt display the key during boot
[22:38] <reisio> Bludot: lspci or lspci -k
[22:38] <cer> Tiensbakung: every time?
[22:38] <mgolisch> darkseid: alternative you could remove the cmos battery to clear it and reset to defaults
[22:38] <wheatthin> darkseid, is it a laptop? or desktop computer? if it's a desktop, they have jumpers you can use to reset
[22:39] <Bludot> what about lshw?
[22:39] <darkseid> wheatthin: ?