And which one do ya'll reccomend for the novice user? is Apache good?
[12:16] <slougi> install apache2, it will start automatically
[12:16] <slougi> you can then replace the standard start page etc. with your own stuff
[12:17] <A|i3N> Do I have to mess witha buncha security settings for my system, Slougi? In order for people to access the page
[12:17] <slougi> no, just install apache2
[12:17] <A|i3N> Cool, thanks :)
[12:17] <A|i3N> I'll play with it. hehe
[12:17] <slougi> open a port in the firewall if you have one
[12:17] <draik> slougi, is the setup hard for apache2?
[12:17] <slougi> apart from that, not that i know of
[12:17] <slougi> draik: apt-get install apache2
[12:17] <slougi> not much more
[12:17] <A|i3N> I don't know if I do or not - this is a stock kubuntu setup offa the latest cd
[12:18] <slougi> of course customization takes some effort, but it is not TOO hard
[12:18] <slougi> A|i3N: well, just try installing apache2 and then accessing it with e.g. firefox: http://localhost
[12:18] <A|i3N> yea I'm pretty experienced with computers, just new to linux. I'm a computer tech but mostly for windows
[12:18] <slougi> if it works, cool, if not, ask again :)
[12:19] <slougi> ok cool
[12:19] <A|i3N> .. so the setup shouldn't be a problem for me
[12:22] <lascar> I just installed a new video card and made an attempt to install the video drivers from the nvidia website.  The attempt failed because X was then running.  So I disable X and try again.  This next attempt failed as well because the installer could not detect my kernel version.  The wizard attempted to find an identifying one via the Internet, but that failed (surprise!).  So at this point, I'm like "fuck it, I'm gonna reboot."  Doing that
[12:23] <uranther> if i have kubuntu already installed on one HDD, can I install windows on another HDD and set it as slave or something and automatically be able to dual boot using kubuntu's boot loader?
[12:23] <slougi> lascar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:23] <lascar> already installed
[12:24] <slougi> lascar: you don't need to install the drivers again then, just run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: I've even reconfigured the xorg.conf file.  Now linux notices the new card, but everything else is still fucked up
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: did that too
[12:24] <slougi> what do you mean everything else is still fucked up?
[12:24] <A|i3N> ok so... i installed apache2... supposedly it's running ..... ? how do I get to it, just type apache2?
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: wi-fi, can't play games; it's like there's no 3d acceleration
[12:25] <slougi> uranther: you can install winxp on the other drive, but it will overwrite grub, so you need to reinstall it
[12:25] <draik> slougi, lascar, I suggest not swearing so that you don't get kicked for it
[12:25] <slougi> A|i3N: "get to it"?
[12:25] <uranther> how would it overwrite grub? even if i had the other hdd detached when installing?
[12:25] <lascar> draik: will do, sorry
[12:25] <A|i3N> How do I access the program to set it up lol
[12:25] <draik> thx
[12:25] <slougi> A|i3N: apache2 is set up using conf files ;) there is no graphical configuration utility
[12:26] <A|i3N> oh an.. what's a good graphical web editor for kubuntu? Is Mozilla composer pretty good?
[12:26] <A|i3N> oh.. lol
[12:26] <A|i3N> then, where do I find the conf files? lol
[12:26] <uranther> composer sucks from what i remember
[12:26] <T_Servo> just use emacs ;)
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> nvu - is a html editor
[12:27] <Martijn81> lascar: have your tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:27] <slougi> A|i3N: they're in /etc/apache2 iirc, the default web root is /var/www/apache2-default/
[12:27] <uranther> slougi: what if i have my kubuntu hdd detached?
[12:27] <lascar> Martijn81: yep, that's what got kubuntu noticing the new card in the conf file
[12:27] <A|i3N> ok cool thank you i guess i need to know this stuff.. is there perhaps an apache front end available?
[12:27] <Martijn81> ah ok
[12:28] <slougi> uranther: it will install fine then, but grub won't pick up windows automatically
[12:28] <uranther> slougi: do i have to tell grub to look for it?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> but thats easy to fix. :P
[12:28] <slougi> A|i3N: as I said, you'll have to edit conf files :)
[12:28] <A|i3N> lol
[12:28] <A|i3N> damn. hehe
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> theres a example windows grub entry at the start of the menu.lst file. i just uncomment it.
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> that way windows is at top.
[12:28] <slougi> uranther: I am not quite certain, maybe reinstalling grub looks for it automatically, if not then yes, but it is not too hard
[12:29] <A|i3N> I'm guessing I edit apache2.cfg
[12:29] <A|i3N> er .conf
[12:29] <lascar> and under the "Devices" section, I've got to keep the value on "nv."  When I change it to "nvidia," the x-server dies
[12:30] <slougi> A|i3N: I'd suggest looking at some documentation, google will find lots
[12:30] <nonickname> is xorg release 70,000,000 version 11.0 X11R7.0 or X11R7.1?
[12:30] <slougi> nonickname: 7.0
[12:30] <slougi> lascar: well, that would be the answer why you have no 3d accel
[12:30] <nonickname> figures.. is there a way i can grab a package for 7.1?
[12:31] <T_Servo> A|i3N: If you have never looked at the apache setup before.. do what they say and read up first... by default you shouldn;t really have to edit anything
[12:31] <lascar> slougi: ok, what now?
[12:31] <Martijn81> lascar: assuming you already have reloaded X, i don't know, sry
[12:31] <lascar> Martijn81: ok, thanx anyway
[12:32] <slougi> lascar: ok do this... change it to nvidia, try launching X. it will write a log file to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Back that file up, change the driver back to nv, and post the log file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:33] <slougi> meanwhile I'll have a smoke so hold on a minute...
[12:34] <doppelganger__> hey guys, would it be feasible to change my kubuntu version to ubuntu and not screw much up?
[12:34] <doppelganger__> because i see how many KDE-centric programs are loaded with kubuntu...  i'm just wondering how hard it would be
[12:34] <A|i3N> it looks as if my root directory is /var/www/
[12:35] <nonickname> guess i'll try my hand at building it...
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> I just mix and match the kde and gnome stuff... too many good apps to worry about. ;P
[12:35] <A|i3N> because when i go to localhost it comes up with a directory listing, the only thing that's there is /apache2-default/
[12:35] <Hawkwind> doppelganger__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <Hawkwind> doppelganger__: Then you can use Gnome all you want
[12:35] <doppelganger__> and XGL won't get confused, right?
[12:35] <nonickname> did you guys miss my question or was it just stupid?
[12:35] <Hawkwind> No idea.  I don't use beta software like that.   ( Just kidding)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:36] <doppelganger__> i just won't wanna hose this box too bad, i've spent a while setting it up
[12:36] <nonickname> lol
[12:36] <nonickname> i want X11R7.1
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Ick!
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:36] <nonickname> i'm trying to get by a problem with the xorg server
[12:36] <Hawkwind> Then run Edgy if you want 7.1
[12:36] <slougi> A|i3N: ah true, i just quickly installed apache2 here and took a look, so yes it's /var/www
[12:36] <nonickname> or something..
[12:37] <nonickname> is there a way i can update my current install to it?
[12:37] <SpAwN> !iso
[12:37] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:37] <A|i3N> slougi: what's funny is the HTML files are in /apache2-default/
[12:38] <InuDuelist> Hm. I spent 48 hours on Linux, without once going back onto Windows. I'm making progress. :P
[12:38] <Hawkwind> nonickname: If you want 7.1 you'd have to run Edgy
[12:38] <A|i3N> now to figure out how to tell this router which computer to route incoming port 80 to :)
[12:38] <nonickname> Hwakwind: meaning i need to reinstall kubuntu?
[12:38] <A|i3N> which should be quite easy.
[12:39] <nonickname> Hawkwind*
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> InuDuelist,  But you just Impled that you WENT back! Egads!
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[12:39] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:39] <lascar> ok, brb
[12:39] <slougi> A|i3N: I guess the packages move them out of the way by default
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> No edgy url yet.  heh
[12:40] <InuDuelist> Hm...
[12:40] <InuDuelist> nonickname: What IRC client are you using?
[12:40] <nonickname> konversation.
[12:40] <InuDuelist> Great.
[12:40] <Hawkwind> nonickname: If you really want to run beta software and a beta OS, then yes
[12:40] <InuDuelist> You don't have to write everyone's name out completely.
[12:41] <InuDuelist> Konversation has Tab Completion.
[12:41] <nonickname> ahh
[12:41] <nonickname> InuDuelist: thanks :D
[12:41] <InuDuelist> Sure.
[12:41] <nonickname> i just want wine to work with mame32k, to be honest
[12:41] <slougi> nonickname: no you don't need to reinstall, you can upgrade to edgy using apt
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> ick... why
[12:41] <nonickname> ahh
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> mame works very well under Linux. :)
[12:41] <nonickname> not mame32k =(
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> advancemame is nicer in some ways
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> better then mame32 even
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> and theres other mame front ends
[12:42] <nonickname> noo
[12:42] <nonickname> mame32'k'
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> whats so K about it. :P
[12:42] <slougi> kaillera?
[12:42] <nonickname> it has a kaillera dll :p
[12:42] <ravenous> kxmame!
[12:42] <nonickname> lol
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> So you can play PacMan online... Wow...
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:43] <nonickname> :D
[12:43] <nonickname> actually, i'm more of a mvsc guy
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> 'yes i mame, do you?'
[12:43] <nonickname> X_CreatePixmap fails if i run mame32k =(
[12:44] <nonickname> supposedly, the problem is related to x.org
[12:44] <archangel_> sup folks
[12:44] <A|i3N> hey refresh my memory guys.. if I have a DSL Modem going into a wireless router, it's the wireless router I need to access to change port forwarding, right?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Mame32 v0.67 (0414)+Kaillera client v0.9 (2.9Mb).
[12:44] <archangel_> need some help on my display
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. what version of mame32k ya got?
[12:44] <nonickname> .64
[12:44] <nonickname> it's the standard
[12:45] <nonickname> www.anti3d.com has a copy
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I though make was up to like 1.0.4 by now.
[12:46] <nonickname> heh, nobody bothered to update 32k past .67, and no one uses that
[12:46] <nonickname> .64 is the standard
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Ick. :P
[12:46] <nonickname> lol
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> well i was going to try it.. but aint going to bother now. :P
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> good luck
[12:46] <nonickname> why not?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> and i dont play the 'fighting games' either. :)
[12:46] <nonickname> hehe
[12:46] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> MortalCOmbat = ick.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:47] <nonickname> lol
[12:47] <nonickname> no mk
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> klax = da bomb.
[12:47] <archangel_> and now its the only option in display
[12:47] <nonickname> street fighter alpha 3, marvel vs capcom, samurai shodown 5, i think?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Mr Do! ownz you.
[12:47] <nonickname> lol
[12:47] <nonickname> i wasn't around for all of the old school ones
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> old-skool-fool.
[12:47] <Martijn81> Ali3N: yes (assuming the router actually is set to function as router and not downgraded in options to bridged)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> I rember when they were NEW in the arcades
[12:48] <Hawkwind> LOL @ Mr. Do
[12:48] <nonickname> i HAD two atari's
[12:48] <nonickname> i don't know which numbers they had on em
[12:48] <pgquiles> after upgrading kubuntu from breezy to dapper, it no longer starts KDE (although default init level is 5 in /etc/inittab). What can I do?
[12:48] <archangel_> coleco - q-bert  rocked!!
[12:49] <nonickname> anyhow
[12:49] <Hawkwind> Hah!  I have Q-bert as well in my collection of about 50 Coleco games
[12:49] <archangel_> sweet
[12:49] <nonickname> slougi: how would i go about updating to edgy using apt-get?
[12:49] <archangel_> I wish they would make it as a linux game
[12:49] <slougi> nonickname: well, first off, be warned it is under pretty heavy development ;)
[12:50] <nonickname> i'll survive.
[12:50] <nonickname> i just installed the os a few days ago
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: basically, just switch all mentions of dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <nonickname> :D thanks, slougi
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: if you have external repos, those might not have an edgy version yet
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: after that, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:51] <archangel_> need some display help
[12:51] <lascar> slougi: it's up
[12:51] <slougi> nonickname: using aptitude instead of apt-get is preferred since it has better dependency resolution
[12:51] <slougi> lascar: link?
[12:51] <nonickname> ahh
[12:52] <lascar> shougi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21921
[12:52] <slougi> lascar: hmm, try "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[12:52] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[12:53] <lascar> shougi: anything else?  I'd like to minimize the number of reboots, if possible
[12:53] <slougi> lascar: if it doesn't barf, try setting the driver to nvidia and restarting X
[12:53] <slougi> you don't need to reboot :) just do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart to restart X
[12:54] <lascar> shougi: my internet connection is down in kubuntu because of all of this.  I'm using XP for emergency purposes.
[12:54] <lascar> brb
[12:55] <A|i3N> slougi: can you go to my IP with yer browser an see if you get my default directory? I needa see if I set up port forwarding right.
[12:55] <A|i3N> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:55] <slougi> ah, well the problem is that it is not finding the nvidia kernel module for some reason. this might be because your card is not automatically recognized for some reason, or you don't have the driver installed. make sure you have linux-restricted-modules installed
[12:56] <slougi> A|i3N: Index of /: apache2-default/
[12:56] <slougi> ;)
[12:56] <A|i3N> cool thanks
[12:56] <A|i3N> hehe
[12:56] <slougi> no problem
[12:56] <A|i3N> now - where would I go to set up my system for static IP so I always have the port forwarding forwarding to the right computer?
[12:56] <A|i3N> it's on DHCP now
[12:57] <nonickname> here we go :o
[12:57] <slougi> A|i3N: well, depends on how you're connected to the net
[12:57] <slougi> A|i3N: do you mean a static IP on your LAN or the net at large?
[12:57] <A|i3N> Linksys Wireless-B router
[12:57] <A|i3N> on my LAN
[12:57] <A|i3N> I'm hardwired into the router though
[12:58] <slougi> well, my router has an option to assign a static ip based on mac address using dhcp
[12:58] <slougi> that might be the easiest way if yours has one too
[12:58] <A|i3N> ok I'll check it :)
[12:58] <slougi> if not you could just set the default route etc. to be your router and skip dhcp
[01:00] <nonickname> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kQ3Hvd68.html :p
[01:01] <nonickname> i should probably just download a disk, lol
[01:01] <slougi> nonickname: well that's an option too ;) although at least for me the edgy upgrade was completely painless, I'm running it on laptop for X 7.1 also
[01:02] <nonickname> ahh
[01:02] <archangel_> Dr_Willis: you busy dr?
[01:02] <slougi> for other people it was a bit more troublesome, but I had a pretty fresh install so there were no complications...
[01:02] <nonickname> well, i haven't really done anything except insall/remove a few packages here and there
[01:03] <lascar> slougi: i got the following message: FATAL: Module nvidia not found
[01:03] <nonickname> i was having lots of problems when i tried to install the nvidia drivers, too
[01:03] <lascar> you too, eh?
[01:03] <lascar> how'd you deal with it?
[01:04] <nonickname> don't remember what i did, but it had to do with downoading a hack/patch for the install script, then doing some other odd things
[01:04] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[01:04] <slougi> lascar: hmm weird, do you have some custom kernel or something? cause nvidia-glx should pull that in automatically
[01:04] <nonickname> i was using the legacy nvidia drivers
[01:04] <archangel_> and the drivers are installed
[01:04] <lascar> slougi: nope, i've been doing it the repository way ever since i installed Kubuntu
[01:04] <archangel_> I dont understand why its doing this
[01:05] <nonickname> did you install it with x windows running?
[01:05] <lascar> deviated just this once for the updated nvidia drivers, and have i learned my lesson.
[01:05] <lascar> nonickname: nope, the installer wouldn't allow that
[01:05] <nonickname> ah
[01:05] <Martijn81> Ali3N: i don' t have linksys, but maybe this pulldown menu -> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54GL/WRT54GL2.jpg
[01:05] <lascar> slougi: should i manually add the module in xorg.conf?
[01:06] <A|i3N> dang. Only thing I see slougi is under network address server setup, and I've got an option that says "Static DNS 1", 2 and 3 and "WINS"
[01:06] <slougi> lascar: there are two modules, one is for the kernel, one is for X, the kernel one is not being found
[01:06] <A|i3N> I can *block* computers by MAC address.. hehe
[01:06] <slougi> lascar: basically, X is configured correctly but the kernel driver is MIA
[01:07] <slougi> A|i3N: just set up a static config, K-menu -> system settings -> network settings
[01:07] <slougi> A|i3N: you should be able to figure it out ;)
[01:07] <lascar> slougi: perhaps the installer partially overwrote it?
[01:07] <A|i3N> I think so. :)
[01:07] <slougi> lascar: very possible
[01:07] <T_Servo> man I like 7zip compression... 3Gb 0> 475Mb
[01:08] <nonickname> :o
[01:08] <lascar> man, what do i do?
[01:08] <slougi> lascar: the problem is that you have no net access atm, can't you get the net up without a GUI?
[01:08] <lascar> nope
[01:08] <lascar> the connection completely topped out on me
[01:08] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[01:08] <InuDuelist> I dispise homework.
[01:08] <InuDuelist> It's cutting into my Linux time.
[01:09] <A|i3N> Slougi do you think I can set an IP address that is beneath the range of the dynamic IP's assigned by the router? They start at <IP_ADDRESS>, so I'm thinking I should set my ip to something like .99 or something
[01:09] <lascar> slougi: my wlan settings are configured perfectly, and I haven't touched them
[01:09] <slougi> lascar: well that's weird... were you using knetworkmanager or something?
[01:10] <lascar> yeah, but only for feedback
[01:10] <slougi> A|i3N: I don't think it really matters, you could try one way first, if it doesn't work use something to please your router :)
[01:10] <lascar> the nuts and bolts are through Kcontrol
[01:10] <slougi> lascar: hmm right, I don't have much wlan experience myself... anyway, you probably have a usb stick or something to transfer files with? or a FAT partition?
[01:11] <lascar> unfortunately, no
[01:11] <lascar> i've been making do with a dvd+rw
[01:11] <slougi> heh, right. but your network stuff should still work even with the nv driver, I mean the two are not connected
[01:11] <lascar> slougi: i know!  i'm completely baffled.
[01:12] <slougi> very weird, is your wlan card still detected? in what way does it not work?
[01:12] <lascar> slougi: do you think i should manually add the nvidia module?
[01:13] <lascar> slougi: it is detected, there's just no connection between it and the router under Kubuntu
[01:13] <slougi> lascar: no, I'd advise getting networking going and then just reinstall the nvidia stuff with apt
[01:14] <lascar> hmmm...i'll be back
[01:14] <slougi> lascar: weird, so basically it just doesn't detect a network? have you tried different tools? and how'd this break in the first place? :)
[01:14] <Agios> did you perhaps have it working then installed nvidia-glx or something that required linux-restricted-modules?
[01:14] <lascar> Agios: that may be it
[01:14] <lascar> i remember uninstalling and reinstalling restricted-modules a few times
[01:14] <Agios> linux-restricted-modules has wlan and nvidia updates in it.
[01:14] <TheA|i3N> WELL i guess the router likes it, I'm still online. lol. Can you try my IP address again slougi (or someone) <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:15] <slougi> TheA|i3N: one sec
[01:15] <lascar> ah.
[01:15] <slougi> TheA|i3N: still works
[01:15] <Agios> so it could impact both even though they would seem to be unrelated
[01:15] <lascar> then that's almost certainly it.
[01:15] <TheA|i3N> ok now i'm in the channel 3 times. lol. Thanks for all your help Slougi
[01:15] <nonickname> is there a way to hide things from the taskbar when the current desktop isnt equal to the desktop that the taskbar item isnt on?
[01:16] <lascar> brb
[01:16] <slougi> no worries :)
[01:16] <nonickname> that the taskbar item is on*
[01:16] <Ethos> hi guys
[01:16] <slougi> nonickname: yeah in the taskbar properties
[01:16] <Ethos> best way to get steam working on unbuntu? :)
[01:16] <Agios> pour some water on it and heat it up :)
[01:16] <nonickname> slougi: thanks
[01:16] <Ethos> haha
[01:16] <slougi> nonickname: uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[01:16] <Ethos> ;)
[01:17] <nonickname> dunno why i didn't think of that :p
[01:17] <slougi> nonickname: well it's an annoying default to begin with ;)
[01:17] <nonickname> :p
[01:17] <nonickname> maybe there was fear of a virus that hid in the last desktop, minimised :p
[01:18] <nonickname> wtf
[01:18] <nonickname> konsole just gave me a tip of the day
[01:18] <slougi> I think it's just so that people who don't know how virtual desktops work don't lose apps by mistake
[01:18] <slougi> well turn them of then :p
[01:18] <nonickname> i know, but i've never seen a tip of the day for konsole before
[01:19] <nonickname> maybe it's the aptitude update
[01:19] <slougi> probably the kubuntu default settings are busted in edgy or something
[01:19] <nonickname> :p
[01:24] <SlimG> anyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?
[01:25] <Ranbee> hi, is aptitude the CLI of adept?
[01:26] <SlimG> Ranbee: afaik Adept use apt-get
[01:27] <Ranbee> oh, i'm using an installed version of nubuntu and wanted to use aptitude, but it's not there. i thought it might be part of adpet??
[01:27] <Ranbee> lol *adept
[01:27] <crimsun> nubuntu?
[01:28] <ravenous> they're all frontends for apt-get
[01:28] <Ranbee> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[01:28] <crimsun> (yes, known)
[01:28] <crimsun> aptitude _should_ be in the default seed
[01:28] <Ranbee> ravenous: do you know how i can use aptitude then?
[01:28] <Ranbee> it's not there
[01:29] <SlimG> Ranbee: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[01:29] <ravenous> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[01:29] <ravenous> assuming they're using the traditional ubuntu repos, ive never even heard of nubuntu
[01:29] <Ranbee> i'm sure i tried that :| i'll just check
[01:29] <crimsun> it's a derivative
[01:30] <T_Servo> HRM
[01:31] <Ranbee> OMG, i'm so sorry, it's already installed, i must have spelled it wrong...
[01:31] <T_Servo> is build-essential on the 6.06.1 CD.. or does it need to be downloaded?
[01:31] <SlimG> ravenous: wikipedia entry: nUbuntu or Network Ubuntu is a project to take the existing Ubuntu distribution and remaster it as a LiveCD and Full Install with tools needed for penetration-testing servers and networks.
[01:31] <ravenous> he posted the link, i understand what it is ;) i had just never heard of it
[01:31] <ravenous> T_Servo: should be on the cd
[01:32] <Ranbee> i know it's abit OT, but i'll post this once, screenshots for nubuntu
[01:32] <Ranbee> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=691&slide=3&title=nubuntu+6.06+screenshots
[01:34] <T_Servo> how would I go about installing?  sudo apt-get install build-essential  just gives an error that build-essintial wasn't found
[01:35] <Hawkwind> T_Servo: Make sure you setup all of your sources
[01:35] <Hawkwind> !repos > T_Servo
[01:36] <T_Servo> hmm
[01:36] <ravenous> if your cd is in the repo list it should pull it right off there, otherwise it'll take it off the net and build-essential is in the main repo so you shouldnt even have to configure anything to access it unless something's already been tampered with
[01:37] <T_Servo> I don;t think it is setup.. because something simple like "make" says it wasn;t found
[01:37] <ravenous> make is in build-essential
[01:37] <ravenous> it has to be installed first
[01:37] <T_Servo> yea, figured that.. just trying to figure out how :)
[01:38] <ravenous> im saying your repos should already be setup to access it unless they've been messed with
[01:38] <T_Servo> yea.. looking at that now
[01:38] <SlimG> anyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?
[01:38] <ravenous> make  sure your spelling it right as well, or open synaptic and search for 'build-essential' you could do as well
[01:40] <alex_> hello everyone
[01:40] <alex_> how do I update the kernel?
[01:40] <alex_> using adept?
[01:40] <T_Servo> hmm
[01:41] <T_Servo> don;t see a cd option
[01:41] <nagyv> alex_: adept notifier will notify you about a new kernel, and you just have to select it (AFAIK)
[01:42] <alex_> nagyv: automatically in the system tray?
[01:42] <nagyv> alex_: I think so
[01:42] <alex_> nagyv: ok, thanks
[01:43] <edju> Laptop's cd drive is dead, and no floppy drive.  Possible to install kubuntu from an empty partition or  from an external drive mounted via nfs?
[01:45] <alex_> I am getting this errors when trying to install the drivers from ati.com
[01:45] <alex_> Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[01:45] <alex_> Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[01:45] <alex_> Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[01:45] <mponce> hello need help kubuntu wireless WAP2 security
[01:46] <nagyv> alex_: are you sure that you need the ati drivers?
[01:46] <nagyv> mponce: try wpa_supplicant
[01:46] <alex_> nagyv: 100% positive
[01:47] <alex_> nagyv: it's a long story, I installed it successfully last time, but windows destroyed my linux partition so I am re-installing it now
[01:47] <alex_> nagyv: except for I am getting this error this time
[01:48] <nagyv> alex_: :( sorry, but I am not an expert, so I can not help, I use the free radeon drivers
[01:48] <alex_> nagyv: thanks nevertheless man, I need the drivers because I have a redeon X1400 on my laptop
[01:48] <alex_> nagyv: the old drivers don't support it
[01:52] <rouzic> Hi
[01:52] <rouzic> I have a problem
[01:53] <T_Servo> Ok.. I don;t see how to add the CD as a source in Adept :\
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:53] <Martijn81> rouzic: throw it out
[01:54] <red> how would I go about getting and installing drivers for my ati x1300 video card
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[01:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <nonickname> uhm.. yea i did get errors upgrading to edgy
[01:54] <rouzic> I have installed LILO with the kernel 2.6.15-386 and later I have got up-to-date to the version 2.6.15-686. But on having started LILO it continues with the version 386
[01:54] <rouzic> Since I do to change the kernel of take-off?
[01:55] <red> nice
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  rerun lilo perhaps.. or edit the lilo.conf and fix it. then rerun lilo
[01:55] <nonickname> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[01:55] <nonickname>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[01:56] <rouzic> map=/boot/map
[01:56] <rouzic>  delay=20
[01:56] <rouzic>  append=noapic
[01:56] <rouzic>  image=/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.img
[01:56] <rouzic>  root=/dev/sda3
[01:56] <rouzic> this is part of my lilo.conf
[01:56] <dta> heya
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  look at /vmlinuz  /initrd.img - they are most likely soft links to the kernel with the wrong version.
[01:57] <nonickname> slougi: uhh.. did you see that?
[01:57] <rouzic>  image=/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[01:57] <rouzic> Thats correct?
[01:58] <ravenous> T_Servo: under view -> manage repositories, you need to add a line for the cd, or you can do it in synaptic which i find easier since there's an 'add cdrom' button but whatever works
[01:58] <Martijn81> rouzic: with lilo you have to run some file after configuring it, dunno exactly since i use grub a lot lately
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> you rerun the command 'lilo' after changing the lilo config file. :P
[01:59] <rouzic> Do I add the version of the kernel in the lilo.conf?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  look where that kernel actually is at... most likely thats WRONG since its not in / its in /boot/
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> or change the soft links is an easier way
[01:59] <rouzic> Thanks Dr_Willis
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> You are reminding me why i like grub so much. :P
[02:00] <rouzic> I restart and verify if it works
[02:00] <ravenous> good protein
[02:01] <angasule> !sensors
[02:01] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:01] <T_Servo> ravenous: Is there an example of hos that is setup somewhere?  When I tried to setup the CD I got an error message
[02:04] <jcole> i get this installing kubuntu -> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 42: 3: Bad file descriptor
[02:04] <T_Servo> or I can copy the file and right click, install
[02:05] <T_Servo> or not.. heh
[02:05] <lascar> slougi: it turns out that my wi-card isn't being detected afterall
[02:06] <red> i think i installed my ati drivers wrong because it doesnt allow the resolution that i had
[02:06] <red> where do i find the instructions to install the ati again
[02:06] <ravenous> T_Servo: mine looks like this -> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_- Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted .. i dont see how its not under your repositories by default if you installed of the cd it should be there unless your sources.list has been tampered with
[02:06] <red> i know its 1680x1050
[02:06] <red> but it doesnt allow me to chose that
[02:07] <ravenous> the cd is the very first repo commented out on my adept repo list
[02:07] <T_Servo> I just finished installing it not 45 mins ago.. so no way it could have been tampered with
[02:09] <red> ati x1300 video card drivers
[02:10] <jan_> hello folks
[02:11] <jan_> i am new to linux/kubuntu
[02:11] <jan_> and i want to install maya
[02:11] <T_Servo> I'll do it the old fassioned way then... copy and paste and manual install
[02:11] <jan_> any help on that
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[02:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <red> thanxs
[02:12] <jan_> guys any help on maya installation on kubuntu
[02:12] <ravenous> isnt maya a windows program?
[02:13] <jan_> yeah it has a linux version as well
[02:13] <jcole> maya runs on linux and irix unix too
[02:13] <jan_> i have got the rpms
[02:13] <jcole> maya is not for the faint of heart
[02:13] <mx> =(
[02:14] <mx> i'm running a terminal irc client
[02:14] <jan_> i have been using maya for almost 4 years now since its inception :)
[02:14] <ravenous> rpms arent going to work for ubuntu unless you can 'alien' them into debs but ive not tried nor want to
[02:15] <jan_> but i need to run it on kubuntu
[02:15] <jan_> do i have to download alien
[02:15] <ravenous> sudo apt-get install alien
[02:15] <jcole> ravenous: some lazy companies actually alien their distributed .rpm to .deb
[02:15] <mx> speaking of running things on kubuntu, can someone tell me what that command is to reconfigure the xorg configs?
[02:16] <mx> apparently edgy doesnt like fglrx
[02:16] <jcole> mx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <mx> thanks
[02:16] <jan_> thanks ravenous
[02:16] <mx> now, how do i copy things without a mouse..
[02:16] <jcole> mx: select "ati" driver
[02:16] <jan_> ill try this
[02:16] <jcole> mx: apt-get install gpm
[02:16] <mx> jcole: gpm?
[02:16] <jcole> mx: ya
[02:17] <mx> jcole: whats that :p
[02:17] <ravenous> jan_: i see some links on ubuntuforums.org on using alien to install on older ubuntu versions so it might work maybe want to search it as well
[02:17] <jcole> mx: mouse for text mode
[02:17] <mx> ahh
[02:17] <mx> thanks
[02:17] <mx> okay, one more question
[02:18] <mx> is there a way i can run multiple things at once in text mode?
[02:18] <jan_> thanks ravenous ill try that
[02:18] <ravenous> np
[02:18] <ravenous> adding & to the end of the program will run it in the background
[02:18] <jcole> mx: after you configure X with the "ati" driver, run this
[02:18] <jcole> mx: aticonfig --initial
[02:18] <mx> x_x
[02:18] <ravenous> otherwise open another virtual console
[02:19] <jcole> mx: ctrl-alt-(f1 to f6)
[02:19] <mx> :o
[02:19] <mx> :D
[02:19] <intelikey> ok i think i'm back...   now what was i gonna do? !
[02:19] <yonkeltron> talib kweli is golden
[02:19] <mx> ty jcole
[02:19] <mx> i could actually live in the console, if it had some good games..
[02:20] <charims> hi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :(
[02:20] <intelikey> mx it does.   and many of the games that you think require X can run in console
[02:21] <intelikey> !mp3 > charims
[02:21] <jcole> mx: "screen" is an app that lets you manage multiple apps in one text window
[02:21] <mx> i see
[02:22] <mx> hmm.. copy+paste?
[02:22] <intelikey> it's also not needed, you have some 128 consoles by default
[02:22] <T_Servo> hmmm
[02:22] <red> i fixed my drivers, i just didnt allow it to go that in depth during all of the detections
[02:22] <intelikey> mx gpm
[02:22] <red> this shit rules
[02:22] <mx> i've got gpm
[02:23] <TheA|i3N> hey this isn't kubuntu related but maybe one of ya'll would know this - is there a way to save a video off of a web site that loads via Java? Say there was a business presenation off of a company site that I wanted to use on my own site but it loads via java.. how would I go about saving it?
[02:23] <intelikey> left button highlight right button paste
[02:23] <T_Servo> g++-4.0 depends on libstdc++6-4.0-dev ... but libstdc++6-4.0-dev depends on  g++-4.0  .... o.0
[02:23] <mx> say i wanna highlight, then go into another terminal and right click..
[02:23] <mx> ahh, nice
[02:23] <T_Servo> TheA|i3N: check the source.. they may point to the video file in the page code
[02:24] <mx> intelikey: thanks, i didnt think it'd work between consoles
[02:24] <T_Servo> there are also some firefox extensions that may let you save the video
[02:24] <intelikey> mx welcome to the real linux (not that candy *** stuff in X)
[02:24] <ravenous> T_Servo: yeah thats not going to help because just installing 'gcc' deb for example isnt going to install the deps
[02:24] <TheA|i3N> well i looked but it doesn't make any sense to me
[02:24] <T_Servo> yea
[02:25] <TheA|i3N> firefox extentions ... hm
[02:25] <T_Servo> I am down to those two for installing... not sure how to get past this
[02:25] <T_Servo> gave up trying to get it to look at the CD
[02:25] <ravenous> you need to fix the repos and install it that way, like I said its in the main repo on the net as well if your not getting it from the web or cd then you've got another huge underlying problem
[02:25] <intelikey> T_Servo do an  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:27] <InuDuelist> I was about to attempt ot give ReactOS a shot, and then I saw screenshots.
[02:27] <InuDuelist> Nasty.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[02:27] <terry_> i was trying to install a printer, and it couldn't install the drivers because i didn't have suffcient priviledges, but i'm the only account.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> you need to use 'sudo' to do root-ish stuff. :)
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> or similer.
[02:28] <terry_> i still don't know what that means
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[02:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:28] <terry_> gracias..
[02:28] <ravenous> run 'sudo' before the command and enter your user password when it prompts
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> it means  kubuntu tries to be secure by default. :)
[02:28] <intelikey> hah
[02:28] <InuDuelist> Better yet, type in "sudo su" and become auto-root. It's yummy.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:28] <ravenous> sudo -i ;)
[02:28] <intelikey> it means the default user is root-jr  is what it means
[02:29] <terry_> wait... what am i typing in?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> terry_,  depends on what you are doing.
[02:29] <terry_> trying to use the printer wizard.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> sudo command-to-run-as-root-user
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Does anyone know if ReactOS allows for the changing of the theme and/or skin?
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Because Windows Classic just isn't going to work for me.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> the kde printer config tool has a 'administrator' mode button.
[02:30] <NDPTAL85> Is ReactOS stable?
[02:31] <terry_> i don't see the adminstrator mode...
[02:31] <charims> hi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :( its not a codec issue, it has something to do with my sound card, i know this becuase i already downloaded the codedcs,m and now i also get no sound from gaim
[02:31] <InuDuelist> NDPTAL85: I'm not sure. All I know is that its 0.3.0 release has been made.
[02:31] <InuDuelist> Everyone's saying that it is, but I doubt it.
[02:32] <NDPTAL85> I keep thinking that if ReactOS gets halfway decent that MS will simply sue it out of existence.
[02:32] <InuDuelist> They can't.
[02:33] <InuDuelist> I don't recall exes to be copyrighted to them.
[02:33] <NDPTAL85> They aren't. But the overall design of the OS.
[02:33] <InuDuelist> Common design for many OSs.
[02:33] <NDPTAL85> Until they've been sued you can't assume that what they're doing is automatically legal. MS are the ones who created Windows first afterall. If anyone can sue those guys its MS.
[02:33] <intelikey> InuDuelist they will find something else to claim.
[02:34] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Maybe.
[02:34] <Hemerson> anhahom
[02:34] <jake1> hey i'm a first time kubuntu user, can someone tell me how to install themes
[02:34] <jake1> i have been using the gnome but thought i would try kubuntu instead
[02:35] <jake1> cuz i kinda like the KDE interface
[02:35] <charims> .
[02:37] <T_Servo> does this look right for the adept:  deb cdrom:pool/main/ dapper main restricted
[02:37] <intelikey> well i'm siriously considering adding a password to my user account.....  i like not messing with passwords but i can't get X worked out where user can use it reliably,  and i get tired of using root for any X activities.....   someone talk me out of it.
[02:37] <T_Servo> editing the final manually since adept doesn;t seem to like the cdrom
[02:38] <intelikey> T_Servo cdrom:///cdrom/pool/main/   ???
[02:38] <charims> what is a command to kill mpg123 when it is playing?
[02:39] <intelikey> ^c    or killall mpg123
[02:39] <kill4killin> does anyone know of a way that i can make my runcompiz.sh file that i made to start up xgl and compiz run when i start up kde?
[02:39] <ravenous> ps aux for the ID and 'kill' the process
[02:39] <charims> kk, thanks
[02:39] <intelikey> ravenous why not  kill `pidof blah`   ?
[02:40] <ravenous> more than one way to skin a cat
[02:40] <intelikey> top
[02:40] <ravenous> i prefer chainsaws *shrug*
[02:40] <intelikey> xtop
[02:40] <charims> haha
[02:40] <jott_> i prefer psdoom
[02:40] <intelikey> ksysguard
[02:41] <mx> mx@mx-desktop:~$
[02:41] <intelikey> or the M$ way    [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]    reboot    :)
[02:41] <mx> mx@mx-desktop:~$
[02:41] <mx> whoops
[02:41] <intelikey> mx want to change that ?
[02:41] <mx> lol, my bad, trying to figure out why links wouldnt accept a paste
[02:42] <manchicken> Is kubunto a 100%-free(speach) distro?
[02:42] <jcole> brb
[02:42] <terry_> !sh
[02:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:42] <intelikey> mx test this,    export PS1='\l [\u\$\h.\w]  '
[02:42] <kill4killin> does anyone know how i can add the runcompiz.sh file to the startup of kde?
[02:43] <TheA|i3N> anybody know where firefox's tmp folder is?
[02:43] <mx> you want me to execute that?
[02:43] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[02:43] <intelikey> mx yeah   it changes the prompt
[02:43] <kill4killin> do "sudo updatedb" then do "sudo locate firefox"
[02:43] <mx> tty2 [mx$mx-desktop.~]
[02:43] <intelikey> see
[02:43] <kill4killin> and then just look through all the directories that get listed
[02:44] <intelikey> :)
[02:44] <terry_> how do i run .sh files?
[02:44] <intelikey> sh file.sh
[02:44] <linuxkid2> kill4killin: add the script to ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:44] <kill4killin> linuxkid2 thanks
[02:44] <osiris> is there an app to tell what program is using bandwidth, and how much
[02:44] <linuxkid2> intelikey: at prompt, "./script.sh"
[02:44] <kill4killin> intelikey, you should just be able to do FILENAME.sh and if that doesnt work, sudo FILENAME.sh
[02:44] <mx> intelikey: i was actually trying to figure out why i couldnt paste into rafb's paste form using the highlight and right click method
[02:45] <kill4killin> you also may need to chmod +x the file first
[02:45] <Martijn81> osiris: iftop will do
[02:45] <intelikey> linuxkid2 and kill4killin you assume the file is executable.
[02:45] <linuxkid2> you do have to make it executable in the permissiones
[02:45] <ravenous> if its not executable you have to run sh
[02:45] <linuxkid2> the ./ thing works for non-execs sometimes.
[02:45] <intelikey> mx hold the shift and click
[02:45] <terry_> i'm about to rip out my hair.
[02:45] <intelikey> mx inside apps that grab the mouse you have to shift it.
[02:46] <TheA|i3N> actually, i guess i should ask: where is firefox's cache folder
[02:46] <linuxkid2> osiris: like top for the network?
[02:46] <osiris> thx, im trying it now
[02:46] <Martijn81> terry_: just tell us where it's bugging you
[02:46] <mx> ah, thanks intelikey
[02:46] <linuxkid2> I don't know if top does that, osiris
[02:46] <intelikey> linuxkid2 you don't have to chmod it to use   sh file.sh
[02:46] <ravenous> iftop does
[02:46] <linuxkid2> yes, that's right
[02:46] <linuxkid2> forgot
[02:46] <terry_> ok... so i'm trying to run this little file called install-sh from the terminal.
[02:47] <terry_> i've done all the change-directory things
[02:47] <terry_> i'm in the folder.
[02:47] <mx> sh ./install-sh ?
[02:47] <intelikey> sh file.sh
[02:47] <ravenous> so 'sh install-sh', or './install-sh' with no ''s
[02:47] <terry_> it says no input file specified.
[02:47] <ravenous> try mx's
[02:48] <linuxkid2> intelikey: yes I know
[02:48] <osiris> ok, now is there a way to see what file someone is downloading off apache ?
[02:48] <intelikey> one can   . file.sh    as well  but that's less secure
[02:48] <osiris> Martijn81, iftop works great
[02:48] <linuxkid2> No idea, haven't used apache.
[02:49] <terry_> ok, if i'm too dumb to run a .sh file, how do i install my hpdeskjet 940c without linux telling me i have the wrong privledge and/or the drivers don't exist? :)
[02:50] <Martijn81> osiris: yeah it's very configurable too (just hit h)
[02:50] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[02:50] <nnn0> !mp4
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <mx> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ByZQIB75.nln.html
[02:51] <linuxkid2> !zeroconf
[02:51] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:51] <jake1> sorry
[02:52] <mx> E: Couldn't find package ati
[02:52] <jake1> anyways.......... can anyone assist me in installing themes
[02:52] <jake1> i'm new at this
[02:52] <jake1> new at kubuntu anyways
[02:52] <jake1> i've been using gnome
[02:52] <intelikey> mx  you followed the wiki ?
[02:52] <mx> uhm
[02:52] <intelikey> !ati
[02:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <mx> ah
[02:52] <jake1> which normally i drag my tar.gz file to the theme manager and it installs
[02:53] <mx> you see, there is no fglrx driver either, as far as i can tell.. one sec
[02:53] <jake1> however i am not seemingly able to do that with Kubuntu
[02:53] <jake1> any ideas
[02:53] <terry_> hey um... where do you find your su password? :)
[02:53] <D4rkly> am i able to install linux-image-amd64-k8 if im running i386 version of kubuntu ?
[02:53] <intelikey> terry_ there isn't one.   use sudo and your users passwd
[02:53] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:53] <ravenous> jake1: run kcontrol, under appearance and themes, theme manager, click on 'install new theme'
[02:53] <mx> terry_: sudo passwd if you wanna cheat
[02:54] <mx> i'm not completely sure that that's safe at all though
[02:54] <Martijn81> bah, cheaters
[02:54] <intelikey> ummm mx they'll boot you out of here for that.
[02:54] <mx> :x
[02:54] <mx> sorry
[02:55] <intelikey> that's taboo  you don't tell people how to set the root password  it's against *buntu rules
[02:55] <intelikey> :)
[02:55] <mx> heh
[02:55] <mx> uhmm.. is there a way to reset the root pw, if, say, someone has already done that? ;)
[02:55] <ravenous> well not against the rules but point them to the root !bang is alot better and let them decide for themselves if they want to use it
[02:56] <intelikey> seriously there are some *butu zealotts that will putch a hissie about that.
[02:56] <ravenous> 'not reccomended' is more like it
[02:56] <intelikey> mx sure
[02:56] <intelikey> passwd -l
[02:56] <reddwolf78> hello can any one give me the easy ubuntu link
[02:56] <mx> ah
[02:56] <mx> thanks
[02:56] <intelikey> or acrually passwd -d && passwd -l
[02:57] <ravenous> learn to use apt-get instead, buuut ..
[02:57] <mx> now passwd -d -l?
[02:57] <ravenous> !easyubuntu
[02:57] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:57] <mx> not*
[02:57] <mx> ah, nvm
[02:57] <intelikey> you should lock a blanck password
[02:57] <intelikey> blank
[02:57] <terry_> ZOMG.
[02:58] <terry_> what's the user/pass thingy for cups & adding a printer?
[02:58] <terry_> i have never found adding a printer so hard in my life.
[02:58] <intelikey> the -d sets the passwd to blank   i.e. you don't need one.  then the -l locks it so you can't login that account.
[02:58] <mx> done
[02:58] <terry_> ..what
[02:59] <mx> time to find something new to do..
[02:59] <intelikey> terry_ the only password there is, is the one you set.    if it's asking for a passwoed it's asking for yours
[02:59] <mx> !video
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <mx> hmm
[03:00] <terry_> ok, perfect. i know my password. unfortunately cups doesn't like it
[03:00] <intelikey> mx thought you were doing ati ?
[03:00] <mx> wtf
[03:00] <jake1> ravenous thanks... do i need to restart in order for the theme to take effect
[03:00] <mx> !ati
[03:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <intelikey> yeah all the joy of being root-jr
[03:00] <jake1> i installed it, and i hit apply but nothing happened
[03:01] <mx> This version of Links does not contain SSL/TLS support
[03:01] <intelikey> mx elinks
[03:01] <terry_> i'm about to rape my printer.
[03:01] <mx> :D thanks
[03:01] <Martijn81> intellikey: man passwd say ->
[03:01] <Martijn81> -l, --lock
[03:01] <Martijn81>               Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing the password to a value which
[03:01] <Martijn81>               matches no possible encrypted value.
[03:01] <ravenous> jake1: you may need to restart kde, yeah, i dont remember exactly havent switched in awhile
[03:02] <Martijn81> just -l might be enough
[03:03] <D4rkly> anyone know if i can use amd64-k8 with i386 install ?
[03:03] <terry_> somebody tell me why my printer just spits out blank pages.
[03:03] <terry_> :)
[03:04] <intelikey> Martijn81 -l is enough to lock it.  i'm not sure it will fix sulogin though.    sulogin is used in single user mode for emergency fixes, it normally asks for the root password; however *buntu uses a hacked sulogin that skips that if the root account is locked with no password,  i'm not sure it will work correctly if you don't blank the passwd first.
[03:04] <MetaMorfoziS> joccak al 1:30 mulva kelek
[03:05] <terry_> ok.. how do i remove a printer?
[03:05] <jilocasin> 'ello all
[03:05] <Martijn81> intellikey: thanks! :)
[03:06] <jake1> :-\
[03:06] <jake1> no theme change
[03:06] <jake1> i selected it
[03:06] <jake1> it installed
[03:06] <jake1> (no preview available)
[03:06] <mx> intelikey: wiki didn't help.. want output?
[03:06] <jake1> and then i tried to apply it,
[03:06] <jake1> nothing happened so i restarted kde and nothing happened
[03:06] <terry_> !cups
[03:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:07] <jake1> !themes
[03:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:07] <intelikey> mx i don't think i will be of any use on ati stuff, i've never owned ati *
[03:07] <jake1> !changethemes
[03:07] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[03:07] <mx> intelikey: ah, well, thanks
[03:07] <mx> i think i already fixed this once before
[03:07] <intelikey> mx and i don't X very often
[03:07] <mx> lol
[03:07] <mx> (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[03:07] <mx> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[03:07] <mx> (EE) No drivers available.

[03:08] <Martijn81> terry_: please try to /msg with the bot and ask for info that way, it's makes the channel beter to read
[03:09] <jake1> any ideas why my KDE theme isn't changing whenever i select it
[03:09] <intelikey> Martijn81 why don't you help terry_ get his/her printer going,  been at it for two days now.
[03:09] <jake1> it shows up under the kcontrol theme manager but not in the system settings>appearance
[03:09] <jake1> theme place
[03:10] <Martijn81> intellikey: i don't have a printer at my computer, so i never tried and therefore i lack the knowledge
[03:11] <terry_> all i need to know is what CUPS wants as the username/password when i try to install a printe.r
[03:11] <terry_> i put in terry/ then the pass, and it doesn't work.
[03:11] <terry_> but the pass using the sudo commands works fine.
[03:11] <Search4Lancer> grrr.... windows keep disappearing from my alt+tab list....
[03:11] <intelikey> terry_ local printer ?    you are installing a network printer ?
[03:11] <terry_> local.
[03:11] <terry_> usb.
[03:12] <intelikey> are you sure you are not in the network section of cups config ?
[03:12] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the direction to info on restoring grub?
[03:12] <terry_> pretty sure..
[03:13] <terry_> CUPS at localhost.
[03:13] <intelikey> no local printer   not cups @ anythinf
[03:13] <intelikey> g
[03:13] <terry_> ..what?
[03:13] <intelikey> local printer
[03:14] <intelikey> no, local printer;   not cups @ anything.
[03:14] <intelikey> punctuation helps...
[03:14] <terry_> oh...
[03:14] <terry_> well how else am i supposed to delete a printer driver that doesn't work?
[03:14] <jake1> no one knows how to install themes???????
[03:15] <reddwolf78> when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it
[03:15] <a212359> ?
[03:16] <intelikey> terry_ give me about 5 minutes.  i'll be back and try to walk you through it.    take a break and get a drink of water or something.
[03:16] <terry_> sounds like a deal.
[03:16] <intelikey> i have to fire up another box.  back in a bit.
[03:16] <reddwolf78> pastebin
[03:17] <reddwolf78> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:18] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:18] <reddwolf78>  when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it i but my error message here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21934
[03:18] <Martijn81> jake1: yes, do to kde-look.org, download a theme rated for you KDE version and install it the way ravenous said.
[03:18] <Martijn81> *go
[03:19] <jake1> how do i tell what version of KDE I have
[03:20] <jake1> ?
[03:20] <jake1> oops
[03:20] <jake1> nvm
[03:20] <jake1> found it
[03:20] <Hawkwind> jake1: Click on the Help -> About of any KDE app
[03:20] <Jucato> reddwolf78: is Adept running while you try to run EasyUbuntu?
[03:20] <mx> how do i get drivers that work with ati cards in edgy =/
[03:20] <reddwolf78> the first time no
[03:20] <reddwolf78> then i tried with it running
[03:20] <linuxkid2> jake1: unless you've manually upgraded, it's KDE 3.4.2
[03:21] <linuxkid2> 3.5.2
[03:21] <linuxkid2> err
[03:21] <Jucato> reddwolf78: don't run EasyUbuntu while Adept or apt-get is running
[03:21] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:21] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:21] <reddwolf78> i will try it again then
[03:22] <Jucato> mx: if you're using edgy, you might want to ask for help in #ubuntu+1
[03:22] <jake1> mine says 3.5.2
[03:22] <jake1> oh
[03:22] <jake1> hehe
[03:25] <mx> Jucato: thanks
[03:25] <InuDuelist> Hey, Jucato's back.
[03:25] <Jucato> ehehehe!!!
[03:25] <InuDuelist> ... Did you even leave?
[03:26] <Jucato> hmm... yeah, for about 8 hours? ehehe
[03:26] <InuDuelist> You left?
[03:26] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:26] <InuDuelist> Seriously?
[03:26] <InuDuelist> Like, sign off?
[03:27] <Jucato> um... I had to sleep...
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Great.
[03:27] <Jucato> why?
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Did you sign off, close Konversation (or whatever IRC Client you use)?
[03:27] <Jucato> InuDuelist: yes. why?
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:27] <Tokeiito> labanaktis (good night)
[03:27] <InuDuelist> I didn't see your "Jucato signed on" message.
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:28] <InuDuelist> Found it.
[03:28] <InuDuelist> Nevermind.
[03:28] <Jucato> hmm....
[03:28] <Jucato> lol
[03:28] <Jucato> I'm on your Watched Nicknames?
[03:28] <linuxkid2> Anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:29] <erov> big brother O_o
[03:29] <linuxkid2> Anyone?
[03:29] <InuDuelist> erov: "big brother"?
[03:30] <erov> wrong window /window next
[03:30] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:30] <reddwolf78> that worked this time thanks for the tip
[03:30] <InuDuelist> Heh.
[03:30] <reddwolf78> i have one other question
[03:31] <reddwolf78> how do i set up for djing on a online radio from linux
[03:31] <Jucato> reddwolf78: just make sure that whenever you're trying to run something that installs packages, make sure that nothing else that also installs packages is running
[03:31] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:31] <linuxkid2> !zeroconf
[03:31] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:31] <linuxkid2> hmmm.
[03:33] <reddwolf78> linuxkid was that ment for me
[03:33] <linuxkid2> what? the zeroconf? no
[03:34] <linuxkid2> Just my own research.
[03:34] <mx> intelikey: no answer
[03:34] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:35] <Jucato> btw, you can make ubotu PM you the result of your query by doing !<query> > <nickname>, something like !mp3 > Jucato
[03:35] <linuxkid2> oh, good Idea
[03:35] <linuxkid2> It's like the shell
[03:35] <Jucato> yep
[03:35] <Jucato> redirection
[03:36] <ravenous> or just msg him what you want to know about ;)
[03:36] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux
[03:36] <mx> wow.. deja vu
[03:37] <mx> i think i actually told someone about being in an irc room from a terminal, something i've never done until now
[03:37] <Jucato> irssi is a very kool IRC client for the command line
[03:37] <linuxkid2> Could Avahi possibly be compiled on windows?
[03:37] <mx> Jucato: yep
[03:38] <terry_> Ok, printer problem is fixed.
[03:38] <terry_> to whomever cares.
[03:38] <charims> Hi everyone, i have a sound problem, and i could really use some help, It's not a codec problem, the specifics are at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1434779#post1434779
[03:38] <mx> had zero learning curve, aside from figuring out that alt+number switches between windows
[03:39] <mx> would anyone mind helping me with edgy?
[03:39] <intelikey> !add-printer
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add-printer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <intelikey> mx i miss something ?
[03:39] <InuDuelist> !addprinter
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addprinter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <InuDuelist> It was worth a shot.
[03:40] <intelikey> !printing
[03:40] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:40] <mx> i typed /exit trying to leave a room and killed irssi
[03:40] <InuDuelist> >__>
[03:40] <InuDuelist> <__<
[03:40] <intelikey> hehhe yep   /part #channel
[03:40] <mx> ah
[03:40] <mx> i was doing /leave
[03:41] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable
[03:41] <Agios> charims: try playing with the mixer settings. Sound is obviously working.
[03:41] <mx> reddwolf78: what exactly were you doing from windows?
[03:42] <charims> ty Agios, will try that
[03:42] <intelikey> mx tried epic bitchx xchat-text ?   other irc clinets that work in consoles
[03:42] <reddwolf78> well from my old xp i was running sam cast to dj songs and i was woundering if i could do the same thing from linux
[03:42] <mx> intelikey: bitchx is a bitch to run :p
[03:42] <intelikey> mx xchat-text is almost to geeky for me...
[03:42] <Dyegov> Hi I have problems, I have just installed kubuntu, but I can't access my old Windows system, what can I do?
[03:43] <maltaethiron> uh oh
[03:43] <maltaethiron> dyegov: did you do a partition install or a complete install?
[03:43] <mx> reddwolf78: sam cast?
[03:44] <Dyegov> When I was installing kubuntu, it gave me the option of reiszing the existing partion and use the space left
[03:44] <maltaethiron> hmm
[03:44] <maltaethiron> anyone here good with dual boot?
[03:45] <intelikey> what ya need maltaethiron ?
[03:45] <Dyegov> I just can't lose my windows, I have a lot of important files
[03:45] <maltaethiron> dygov needs help
[03:45] <reddwolf78> its a program to help with getting music online for people to here it
[03:45] <Dyegov> I'm the one who needs help with dual boot
[03:45] <maltaethiron> dyegov* needs
[03:45] <charims> Hey Agios, tryed both Kmix and Alsamixer, nothing is muted, everthing is up all the way.
[03:45] <terry_> anybody successfully running firefox under WINE with java working?
[03:46] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:46] <InuDuelist> Why are you running Firefox under Wine?
[03:46] <Eeyore> sup
[03:46] <intelikey> Dyegov important files should never be entrusted to hd only; Xpecally when playing with disk tools.
[03:46] <terry_> to get java working. lol
[03:46] <charims> So, my question is, why did the sound work when the computer just started, but when i tried to play an MP3, everything just stopped making sound
[03:46] <terry_> i can't get java working under reg.
[03:46] <Dyegov> Can somebody help me?
[03:46] <mx> my forehead hurts =(
[03:46] <archangel_> intelikey: hey dude, you busy?
[03:46] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, sure.
[03:47] <InuDuelist> What exactly happened?
[03:47] <intelikey> archangel_ yes and no...
[03:47] <Dyegov> I have just installed kubuntu, but now I can't access my windows
[03:47] <archangel_> I cant figure out'why' I have a problem
[03:47] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[03:47] <Dyegov> kubuntu gave me the option of resizing the existing partition and use the left space and I did it
[03:47] <InuDuelist> Did you use the graphical installer?
[03:48] <Dyegov> yes
[03:48] <Dyegov> I'm pretty new at this
[03:48] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, so was I.
[03:48] <InuDuelist> A year ago.
[03:48] <archangel_> intelikey: my mom pushed power on my pc thinking it was off
[03:48] <Dyegov> I need dual boot in order to use both systems
[03:48] <InuDuelist> You do.
[03:48] <intelikey> Dyegov start with this      fdisk -l     and make sure the partitions are all recognized and you know the names of them.
[03:48] <InuDuelist> When you start your computer up, what comes up?
[03:48] <InuDuelist> OK, let him handle it.
[03:49] <InuDuelist> If you need anything else, let me know.
[03:49] <archangel_> intelikey: well, it wasnt, and when it rebooted, it cant display anything over 640x480
[03:49] <Dyegov> But I didn't understand what I have to do
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Open a terminal.
[03:49] <charims> When someone has a chance, i could use some help with ym sound system.
[03:49] <Dyegov> also I doesn,'t say anything, just enters linux
[03:49] <Dyegov> wait
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Uh, oh.
[03:49] <intelikey> archangel_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <Dyegov> ok, I'm in terminal
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Mmm, yakuake.
[03:50] <InuDuelist> OK.
[03:50] <archangel_> intelikey:  ok
[03:50] <terry_> Anyone know how to get Java working with firefox
[03:50] <InuDuelist> Now, type in "fdisk -l" minus the quotes.
[03:50] <terry_> ?
[03:50] <InuDuelist> Do you see your windows partition?
[03:51] <reddwolf78>  i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[03:51] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, do you see your windows partition?
[03:51] <Dyegov> wait
[03:51] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[03:51] <intelikey> Dyegov looking for 'ntfs' partitions.   take note of the  '/dev/hd**'
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Sorry for rushing you, but can you explain which step you are currently at?
[03:52] <Dyegov> nothing happens
[03:52] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:52] <InuDuelist> You opened terminal.
[03:52] <intelikey> terry_ did you get my msg ?
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Right?
[03:52] <Dyegov> is it an "L" or an i
[03:52] <terry_> yes, i figured it out :)
[03:52] <InuDuelist> "L".
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Lowercase, though.
[03:52] <terry_> i was trying to manage printers through the webbrowser, but i had to go to system, THEN manage printers.
[03:52] <terry_> now i'm onto installing java :)
[03:52] <Dyegov> yeah, I write that and nothing happens
[03:53] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:53] <terry_> whats that command that gives you superuser powers?
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Is fdisk a sudo command?
[03:53] <intelikey> !java > terry_
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Anyone remember?
[03:53] <intelikey> InuDuelist if it doesn't list then you can prepend sudo
[03:53] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Is fdisk a sudo command?
[03:53] <Dyegov> I'm lost!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:53] <intelikey> or append the hd  /dev/hda  for exapmle
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:54] <charims> yes, it is a sudo command
[03:54] <charims> had to check myself ;)
[03:54] <InuDuelist> OK.
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, did a little "Password:" come up?
[03:54] <Dyegov> It worked, but without sudo
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:54] <Dyegov> I was not looged as root
[03:54] <erov> it'd directly affect the hard drive of course it needs root access :p
[03:54] <InuDuelist> that's what sudo does.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> su means root.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Or so, I think.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> That's what I think of it as.
[03:55] <Dyegov> Ok, I found 1 NFTS partition
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Good.
[03:55] <charims> YAY!!!!
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Does it match the qualities of your Windows partition?
[03:55] <intelikey> su=switch user   or   super user  depending on how it's applied.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Size, and everything?
[03:55] <Dyegov> yeah
[03:55] <Dyegov> exactly
[03:55] <shulman> how do I make the icons on my desktop smaller?
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Good.
[03:56] <charims> maybe he didnt get grub installed
[03:56] <InuDuelist> Did you get any message about the installation of GRUB?
[03:56] <intelikey> shulman kcontrol knows a way.
[03:56] <InuDuelist> GRUB is the boot manager, by the wya.
[03:56] <Dyegov> yeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB
[03:56] <InuDuelist> way*
[03:56] <InuDuelist> Did it?
[03:56] <Dyegov> yeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB
[03:56] <InuDuelist> But when you start your computer, it just boots straight into Kubuntu?
[03:56] <intelikey> Dyegov do you see ntfs partitions yes or no ?
[03:56] <Dyegov> yes
[03:56] <charims> have you watched it boot
[03:57] <InuDuelist> intelikey: He said he did.
[03:57] <Dyegov> yes, I see 1 NFTS partition
[03:57] <charims> there is a ten second wait for you to choose windows or linux
[03:57] <archangel_> intelikey: is there a part 2?
[03:57] <intelikey> ok now do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <Dyegov> no, there's not
[03:57] <charims> kk
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Alright, did you watch it boot? Did it pop up a screen, or did it just boot straight (like, immediately) into Windows?
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Er, Kubuntu?
[03:57] <intelikey> archangel_ restart x
[03:57] <Agios> charims: kmix has some switches too. Play with them as well.
[03:57] <archangel_> I did
[03:57] <Dyegov> it boot straight into linux
[03:57] <terry_> the apt-get command for sun-java5-bin doesn't work, does anyone else know what it would be?
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Alright.
[03:58] <charims> Agios: I did  :(
[03:58] <archangel_> intelikey: I get the same 640x480
[03:58] <shulman> perfect. thanks!
[03:58] <InuDuelist> I don't know how to handle GRUB problems, but intelikey might.
[03:58] <archangel_> oh wait, I didnt try to change it
[03:58] <InuDuelist> I can almost guarantee that this is a GRUB problem.
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, you haven't lost Windows. ;)
[03:58] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[03:58] <Dyegov> Thanks
[03:59] <Dyegov> But what can I do?
[03:59] <archangel_> intelikey: yeah, I cant get anyhting higher
[03:59] <intelikey> dyegov do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <kRush> hi, someone running keepassx under amd64?
[03:59] <Dyegov> what's that?
[03:59] <InuDuelist> It's a command.
[03:59] <InuDuelist> Like "fdisk -l"
[03:59] <Dyegov> wait
[03:59] <intelikey> Dyegov look for windows listing  toward the bottom.
[04:00] <InuDuelist> Look for any listing.
[04:00] <archangel_> I have the bigest icons on the planet
[04:00] <InuDuelist> intelikey: He said it boots straight into Kubuntu, that means that there's only one listing.
[04:00] <archangel_> ray charles could see them
[04:00] <intelikey> InuDuelist no it doesnt
[04:00] <InuDuelist> It doesn't?
[04:01] <InuDuelist> Like I said, I can't really handle GRUB problems.
[04:01] <InuDuelist> I'm liable to be wrong from this point on.
[04:01] <Dyegov> It doesn't say windoes
[04:01] <InuDuelist> What does it say?
[04:01] <Dyegov> ubuntu 3
[04:01] <Dyegov>  times
[04:01] <intelikey> archangel_ if you configured X properly (the monitor section most of all) then it should work   you can  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:01] <InuDuelist> Great.
[04:01] <InuDuelist> That means you're missing the Windows.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> intelikey should help you get that in there.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Do that.
[04:02] <Dyegov> please
[04:02] <InuDuelist> :P
[04:02] <intelikey> Dyegov ok you need to add a windows entry.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, it's a minor problem. Should be fixed relatively soon.
[04:02] <archangel_> grrrr,   ok
[04:02] <intelikey> Dyegov do this    sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <intelikey> InuDuelist you dual boot ?
[04:04] <D4rkly> how do i hide the title bar on a specific window ?
[04:04] <archangel_> wow, over my head
[04:04] <Jucato> intelikey: why "sudo kate"??
[04:04] <Dyegov> It saisa thare were a lot of preblems and nothin happens
[04:04] <archangel_> same here
[04:04] <Dyegov> "No database avalible"
[04:04] <InuDuelist> Jucato, you need to be root to save those files.
[04:04] <Jucato> !kdesu
[04:04] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:04] <InuDuelist> Ah.
[04:04] <intelikey> Jucato he needs to add a line for windows in menu.lst
[04:05] <intelikey> and don't tell me sudo wont work on that one...
[04:05] <Jucato> intelikey: see what ubotu spit out...
[04:06] <Dyegov> I'm lost again T_T
[04:06] <intelikey> Jucato i wrote part of that.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Dyegov: Type in "kdesu /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Heh.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Desu.
[04:06] <Jucato> "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Developers, developers, developers, developers.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Oh, close enough.
[04:06] <intelikey> :)
[04:06] <erov> !
[04:06] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[04:06] <reddwolf78> jusat whating in line
[04:07] <Jucato> intelikey: ok. if you say so
[04:07] <reddwolf78> just*
[04:07] <archangel_> what is the command to configure x?
[04:07] <Jucato> archangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <archangel_> col thanx
[04:07] <Dyegov> it deny me the access
[04:07] <archangel_> linux makes me feel like a retard
[04:08] <archangel_> <-----  straight from windows
[04:08] <Jucato> archangel_: coz that "other" OS usually turns its users into that...
[04:08] <red> i want some different themes
[04:08] <Dyegov> Ok, intelikey, it's opened
[04:08] <red> whats the easiet way to get some new ones
[04:08] <intelikey> Dyegov (lets keep the help happy)   try  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:08] <archangel_> Jucato: lol
[04:08] <intelikey> ok
[04:08] <InuDuelist> archangel_: I barely used Linux for a year. I'm still learning it (as you can see from my crap help above).
[04:08] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:08] <InuDuelist> But... I didn't spend much time practicing.
[04:09] <intelikey> Dyegov now you need to add a line at the bottom
[04:09] <Dyegov> what line?
[04:09] <reddwolf78> for help
[04:10] <red> also is there like a net stumbler program for kubuntu
[04:10] <archangel_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:10] <intelikey> Dyegov  title Windows xp
[04:10] <archangel_> ajor opcode:  147
[04:10] <archangel_> and "3"
[04:10] <Jucato> archangel_:
[04:10] <intelikey> Dyegov   root (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:11] <Jucato> archangel_X Error Messages? Read this: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[04:11] <archangel_> do I still do the xconfig?
[04:11] <archangel_> k
[04:11] <archangel_> thanks
[04:11] <Jucato> archangel_: what xconfig?
[04:11] <intelikey> Dyegov    boot
[04:11] <Jucato> oooh actinic!
[04:11] <archangel_> I mean xorg
[04:12] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:12] <archangel_> it seems to be doing nothing
[04:12] <intelikey> Dyegov did you get all three lines ?
[04:12] <Dyegov> yes
[04:12] <D4rkly> how can i hide an apps frame ?
[04:12] <Jucato> archangel_: have you done the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing?
[04:12] <archangel_> all the pc did was reboot (hard reboot) and it does all this
[04:12] <intelikey> Dyegov save and exit.
[04:12] <CatSoup> Can anyone point me in the direction of installing ATi drivers?
[04:12] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:12] <actinic> yo Jucato!
[04:12] <InuDuelist> Save is still Ctrl+S, if it makes you happy. :P
[04:13] <Jucato> !ati > CatSoup
[04:13] <Dyegov> exactly like that all toghether?
[04:13] <charims> hi guys, i have a sound problem, sound worked for a minute or so today when i started my pc, i have a Nvidia CK8 and i am using Alsa Snd-intel8x0 for the driver. So, sound worked until i went to test an mp3, and then all sounds went quiet including gaim :(   Its not a codec problem, and both Kmix and alsamixer are turned up full and unmuted.
[04:13] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <Dyegov> exactly like that all toghether? (This line)
[04:13] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <archangel_> yeah, and it did nothing, unless I did it wrong, but I dont see how. Its pretty straight forward Jucato
[04:13] <intelikey> Dyegov that needs  root (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <intelikey> root
[04:13] <Dyegov> I've saved the file
[04:14] <D4rkly> my kxdocker app is appearing in a window now for some strange reason how can i hide kxdockers frame is the some kind of key combo ?
[04:14] <AZ_AS> hi all, a complete n00b to kubuntu here...and need some help with adding repositories so that I can install the programs from the dapper package list I saw on the site...apt-get and adept aren't showing some packages, and it's my understanding that the repositories need to be added
[04:14] <InuDuelist> !repositories
[04:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:14] <intelikey> well if that line didn't have 'root' it wont work.
[04:14] <Jucato> AZ_ASNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:15] <Dyegov> wait, so it has to be "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1" exactly like that intelikey ?
[04:15] <AZ_AS> preferably both but will check out the site
[04:15] <intelikey> exactly Dyegov
[04:15] <Dyegov> Ok, it's saved intelikey
[04:15] <ytbnyt> can some one help me install vmware player?
[04:16] <Jucato> archangel_: did you choose the resolution that you wanted? then did you restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[04:16] <archangel_> yeah Jucato
[04:16] <Jucato> hmm
[04:16] <ytbnyt> is there a .deb availble?
[04:16] <intelikey> let me quote them for you  but you don't quote them in the file.     "title windows"    "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1"     "boot"     dyegov
[04:16] <Jucato> ytbnyt: VMWare Player can be installed from our repositories
[04:17] <ytbnyt> multiverse?
[04:17] <Dyegov> Ok, it's exactly like that intelikey
[04:17] <intelikey> someone that does dual boot check my syntax please,  im not real famielar with grub
[04:17] <Jucato> ytbnyt: universe, iir
[04:17] <archangel_> I have a " widescreen" 19"  maybe 1440x900 isnt the best choise for x
[04:17] <nixternal> my partitions on a 60gb drive ->   255mb (/boot), 10GB (/   root for kubuntu), 10gb (/   root for edubuntu), 1gb swap...im trying to install ubuntu now on the remaining 39gb, just use 10gb...but my 39gb says "unusable" any ideas as to why?
[04:17] <mx> holy crap i made it back to x windows :D
[04:17] <Jucato> s/iir/iirc
[04:17] <ytbnyt> ok
[04:17] <mx> cyas
[04:18] <intelikey> Dyegov you can test it at any time.
[04:18] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:18] <InuDuelist> Dyegov: Try rebooting.
[04:18] <Dyegov> so, do I have to restar right now?
[04:18] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:18] <Dyegov> I'll be back
[04:18] <InuDuelist> :)
[04:18] <Dyegov> Thanks a lot
[04:18] <InuDuelist> If it works, let us know.
[04:18] <InuDuelist> If not, we'll try to help some more.
[04:18] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:18] <AZ_AS> what is the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for? safe to disable or should I leave it enabled to installa package?
[04:18] <intelikey> Dyegov np
[04:18] <red> repositories fixed my problem as well
[04:18] <Jucato> AZ_AS: leave it enabled. it's important
[04:19] <viiiiictor> hi there!
[04:19] <AZ_AS> 'k, ty
[04:19] <intelikey> AZ_AS it's the bug/security fixup
[04:20] <nonickname> :D
[04:20] <victor_from_chil> is there anyone who have a laptop here?
[04:20] <nonickname> (this is mx)
[04:20] <intelikey> it can break things.  hehhe  but it aint supposed too
[04:20] <intelikey> nonickname nice nickname
[04:20] <AZ_AS> makes sense
[04:21] <AZ_AS> after following the steps on the site, it should be working for apt-get too, correct? and so I'll be able to download the programs from both repositiories?
[04:21] <AZ_AS> through apt-get?
[04:21] <nonickname> intelikey: thanks :p
[04:21] <intelikey> as soon as you update the dpkg database
[04:22] <intelikey> AZ_AS
[04:22] <AZ_AS> how do I do that then?
[04:22] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[04:22] <victor_from_chil> hi?
[04:22] <nonickname> is there a way to get cd to ignore case by default? :p
[04:23] <Dyegov> intelikey , windows is now in the list, but it says kernel should be loaded before booting T_T
[04:23] <AZ_AS> alright, just ran it and got an error...said "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:23] <AZ_AS> disregard?
[04:23] <intelikey> Dyegov hmmm that why i asked for anyone to confirm the syntax....
[04:24] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:24] <Dyegov> the other ones in the list had something about kernel, but this one no
[04:24] <intelikey> AZ_AS means you have adept open probably
[04:24] <intelikey> Dyegov give me a second i'll check the syntax and get back to you.
[04:24] <AZ_AS> that'd explain it
[04:25] <Dyegov> Ok intelikey , thanks a lot
[04:25] <erov> reddwolf78: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAudioStreaming.html
[04:26] <reddwolf78> thank you
[04:26] <erov> thats just one but if you need further just holler.. i havent done it but i know it's "doable"
[04:26] <tlinux> hello
[04:26] <tlinux> does anybody know anythign about ppp and dialup internet
[04:26] <AZ_AS> yes, thank you! that site helped tons :)
[04:26] <reddwolf78> ok
[04:27] <AZ_AS> alrighty, gonna go but thanks again
[04:27] <tlinux> how come i can connect using pppconfig but kppp alwyas gives a stupid error 1
[04:28] <charims> ok guys, im not sure about this, but the "comprehensive sound problems solutions guide" told me to add the line options "snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" this might fix my sound problem eg. "No sound", anyone know anything about it
[04:28] <ytbnyt> i looked it up at packages.ubuntu.com and it is in multiverse, how do i enable multi in adept?
[04:28] <InuDuelist> Mmm. Time to import my media collection from Windows to Amarok.
[04:28] <victor_from_chil> can someone helpme compiling the kernel for my laptop??
[04:28] <InuDuelist> Here goes the rest of my night.
[04:28] <charims> haha have fun InuDuelist
[04:29] <intelikey> Dyegov maybe i did have bad syntax for that,   do  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst     again and under windows remove all and inster this in it's place   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:29] <intelikey> makeactive
[04:29] <intelikey> chainloader  +1
[04:29] <intelikey> "
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a netgear wireless card running with ndiswrapper
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> it shows up in iwconfig
[04:29] <edwardam> Anyone know how many simultaneous TCP/IP connections the linux 2.6 kernel can handle?
[04:29] <intelikey> Dyegov no quotes of course.
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> but when I do sudo iwlist wlan0 scan, it says there are no networks
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> even though there definately are
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm on a wlan not two feet from the antenna right now
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> and the same card works fine in SuSE
[04:29] <trpr> Hail_Spacecake: hrm. what happens when you manually set the ssid, instead of scanning
[04:30] <intelikey> Dyegov and sorry for the bad code.  been so long sense i saw a windows partiton....   and i don't use grub either....
[04:30] <Dyegov> Np
[04:30] <Dyegov> but what do you want me to erase exzactly intelikey ?
[04:30] <Hail_Spacecake> trpr: I can't get online
[04:30] <charims>  Hail_SpaceCake do you have a usb card, and what type? Model no?
[04:30] <intelikey> every thing under the "title windows"
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> no, pci
[04:31] <intelikey> Dyegov %
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> netgear
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> wg311
[04:31] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, got it working yet?
[04:31] <charims> oh, ok, sorry, i can't help you, if it was USB, i could, I have a MA111
[04:31] <intelikey> InuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball.
[04:31] <ytbnyt> hello?
[04:31] <charims> hello
[04:32] <InuDuelist> InuDuelist would have what?
[04:32] <Dyegov> I'll uote it intelikey
[04:32] <charims> yes, there are people here, haha ;)
[04:32] <intelikey> whould have had it working
[04:32] <InuDuelist> I don't know if you're speaking sarcasm, or if you're serious.
[04:32] <InuDuelist> 2.6 gigabytes of music being transfered over as we speak.
[04:33] <Dyegov> "title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?
 Dyegov, got it working yet?<><intelikey> InuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball. <-- what's not to understand ?
[04:33] <charims> gonna restart, check if the new line in alsa-source fixes the sound
[04:33] <InuDuelist> That.
[04:33] <kRush> libQtXml.so.4 - which package is it in? i can't find it
[04:33] <InuDuelist> Are you trying to say that I would have helped him, or that I would have got it working for me?
[04:34] <Hail_Spacecake> does anyone know why iwlist might not work?
[04:34] <Dyegov> "title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?
[04:34] <intelikey> title Windows
[04:34] <ytbnyt> how do i enable multiverse in adept?!!
[04:34] <InuDuelist> !multiverse
[04:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:34] <intelikey> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:34] <intelikey> makeactive
[04:34] <InuDuelist> 33% of 2.6 GB.
[04:34] <intelikey> chainloader  +1
[04:34] <Jucato> ytbnyt Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:34] <RogueThunder> 'Ello! Nice to meetcha all... so... Anyone hanging around preticulary willing to help a newbie get a linksys usb wireless card working? ^.^'
[04:35] <Dyegov> but I dont understand intelikey, do I have to put twice root? so it would be root rootnoverify (hd0,0) ?
[04:35] <intelikey> Dyegov no.  the whole thing needs to be just what i pasted. ^
[04:36] <Dyegov> but in the documet i'm modyfing, it follows a format, so you put title       windows
[04:36] <somekool> Hello
[04:36] <Dyegov> root     something
[04:36] <Dyegov> so it would be "root noveify (hda0,0)"
[04:36] <Dyegov> ?
[04:37] <somekool> I downloaded the latest DVD Live of Kubuntu but could not mount my NTFS partitions. anything I need to load in order for this to work ?
[04:37] <Kr4t05> does anyone know how I can minimize an xterm session to the system tray?
[04:37] <intelikey> dyegov "title Windows"   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)"   "makeactive"   "chainloader  +1"     four lines.
[04:37] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:38] <InuDuelist> Anyone feel like writing up a program that allows you to take and upload screenshots?
[04:38] <InuDuelist> Yes?
[04:38] <intelikey> and actually i think the 'makeactive' will be superflutious, but it can't hurt anything.
[04:38] <CatSoup> i thought there were already programs for that?
[04:38] <Dyegov> Dont I have to put Boot intelikey ?
[04:38] <derekS> how do i enable xdmcp in kde? i know how to do it in gnome.... i just want to set it so that other people can loging to my machine via X
[04:39] <intelikey> Dyegov not acording to the manual pages  only on lines with kernel specific actions.
[04:39] <trpr> ksnapshot makes great screenshots
[04:39] <Dyegov> OK, I'll try, I'll reboot, brb intelikey
[04:39] <intelikey> k
[04:40] <ytbnyt> thanks, it worked.
[04:40] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[04:40] <InuDuelist> 91% of 2.6 GB Transfered.
[04:41] <charims> ok, rebooted, what is a reliable way to test sound, im worried if i try playing an mp3 it might break the sound again :(
[04:41] <ytbnyt> logging off in one... two... three...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> 98%...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> 99%...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> Aaanndd....
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Done.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Time for step two.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Importing.
[04:42] <charims> som1 please, what is a realible way to test sound?
[04:43] <Agios> charims: playing a mp3 is as good as any.
[04:43] <Eeyore> a tuning fork
[04:43] <RogueThunder> Batovens 4th? XD
[04:44] <Dyegov> intelikey it didn't work, nothing happened
[04:44] <charims> last time i played an mp3 the sound quit working, right after it was working a second before on Gaim Instant messenger
[04:44] <intelikey> charims cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp
[04:44] <intelikey> Dyegov what do you mean nothing happened ?
[04:44] <intelikey> you have to select windows in the menu at boot time
[04:45] <charims> YES SOUND
[04:45] <charims> :)
[04:45] <InuDuelist> intelikey, what's the command to edit GRUB? I want to check something.
[04:45] <Dyegov> I pressed enter key in where it said "Windows XP" but nothing happned intelikey
[04:45] <charims> ok, now to find why an mp3 breaks it, and so des jsut about everything else
[04:45] <Dyegov> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:45] <charims> thanks Intelikey
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov hmmm that's not good.
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov lets have at that partition.
[04:46] <red_> god hates internet
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov lets have a look at that partition.
[04:46] <red_> the storms are messin wit my power
[04:46] <Dyegov> how intelikey?
[04:46] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[04:47] <intelikey> if it burps out any errors i want to see the error
[04:47] <Jucato> if I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?
[04:47] <Dyegov> no, no errors
[04:47] <reddwolf78> what would the comand be to get a exe file to intall
[04:48] <Dyegov> no errors intelikey
[04:48] <intelikey> Dyegov ok now open konq and have a look around in /mnt    see if it looks like windows c:
[04:48] <intelikey> konq=short for konqueror file manager.
[04:48] <Dyegov> it doesn't let me enter to /mnt intelikey
[04:49] <intelikey> hmmm no read access ?
[04:49] <charims> ok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either, anyone have any suggestions?
[04:49] <Dyegov> i dont know intelikey
[04:50] <intelikey> dyegov sduo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mnt
[04:50] <intelikey> we'll make it let you.
[04:50] <intelikey> err sudo   ^
[04:50] <intelikey> typo
 do you know how to get a exe file to load
[04:51] <Jucato> reddwolf78: you need to have wine installed to get .exe files to run
[04:51] <intelikey> wine blah.exe
[04:51] <driz> hey guys  how do i update 6.06 on konsole
[04:51] <reddwolf78> how do i find out if i have wine installed
[04:51] <intelikey> driz sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:51] <Jucato> reddwolf78: you probably don't it's not installed by default
[04:51] <reddwolf78> darn
[04:51] <intelikey> reddwolf78 wine --version
[04:51] <InuDuelist> Oh, right.
[04:52] <InuDuelist> I forgot to Import.
[04:52] <InuDuelist> Crap.
[04:52] <reddwolf78> what do i do to get it then
[04:52] <InuDuelist> >_<
[04:52] <intelikey> !wine
[04:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:52] <RogueThunder> wouldnt adept have a decent wine package?
[04:52] <reddwolf78> i'm runing kubuntu 6.06.1
[04:52] <RogueThunder> generaly
[04:52] <RogueThunder> that is
[04:52] <intelikey> Dyegov i haven't heard from you.  is it  c:  or not ?
[04:52] <Dyegov> intelikey , it didn't work
[04:52] <Dyegov> it doesnt let me enter
[04:53] <Jucato> RogueThunder: Ubuntu's version of wine is quite outdated
[04:53] <RogueThunder> Ah, no suprise...
[04:53] <charims> ok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either. i just noticed, amarok freezes when i try to play na mp3, is that a symptom of the same issue, i have the mp3 codecs installed
[04:53] <intelikey> Dyegov right here in the irc client type this back to me without quotes pelase  "/exec -o ls -ld /mnt"
[04:54] <actinic> command line tip of the day:  type 'history' without the quotes
[04:54] <Dyegov> it gives me an erorr
[04:54] <intelikey> error is ?
[04:54] <Dyegov> script -o not founded
[04:55] <InuDuelist> Time to set Global Shortcuts.
[04:55] <InuDuelist> :3
[04:55] <intelikey> ok.  client doesn't support that.   then use the konsole and show me the output of  "ls -ld /mnt"
[04:56] <intelikey> i want to see what we are playing with and why that thing didn't boot.
[04:56] <Dyegov> it says:
[04:56] <erov> yes use wine... for what though?
[04:56] <InuDuelist> Global Shortcuts set.
[04:57] <InuDuelist> Time for Albumart.
[04:57] <Dyegov> dr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt
[04:57] <tj_> hey, me and my bro are new to linux, I have extracted the files from the firefox gzip, what do i do now?
[04:57] <Jucato> actinic: have you also tried Ctrl+R ? :-D
[04:57] <Dyegov> intelikey:
[04:57] <Dyegov> dr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt
[04:58] <intelikey> Dyegov "sudo chmod 755 /mnt"   and try to browse it again.
[04:58] <tj_> anyone, plz?
[04:58] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:58] <Dyegov> done, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey
[04:59] <actinic> Jucato, whoa!
[04:59] <intelikey> tj_ why not install the ubuntu version of firefox?
[04:59] <intelikey> !ff
[04:59] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:59] <Dyegov> done, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey
[04:59] <tj_> I'm using Kubuntu
[04:59] <intelikey> yeah i saw,
[05:00] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out
[05:00] <tj_> and
[05:00] <tj_> I don't see it in the menu
[05:00] <intelikey> Dyegov thinking.
[05:00] <actinic> Jucato, here's a quiz:  what's the command line to list installed software?
[05:00] <Dyegov> OK, NP intelikey
[05:00] <Jucato> actinic: dpkg -l
[05:00] <tj_> does it come with fire fox?
[05:01] <tj_> wanted limwire
[05:01] <tj_> needed java
[05:01] <tj_> java needed mozilla
[05:01] <Jucato> actinic: here's a command to tell you how many packages are installed: dpkg --get-selections | grep "\binstall$" | wc -l
[05:01] <intelikey> Dyegov kill konq and run this "kdesu konqueror"   and browse /mnt
[05:01] <actinic> Jucato, here's another way:  dpkg --get-selections
[05:01] <actinic> oops, u beat me to it :)
[05:01] <Jucato> actinic: lol
[05:02] <charims> Is there someone out there who can help me?
[05:02] <Dyegov> Ok, I'm in intelikey
[05:02] <driz> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <tj_> I don't mean to bug, but is someone gonna help me?
[05:02] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out
[05:02] <actinic> ok here's another for you Jucato:  How do I verify which ports are listening?
[05:02] <Dyegov> It's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <intelikey> Dyegov is it  C:\   or not ?
[05:02] <intelikey> kewl
[05:02] <Jucato> actinic: that I don't know. I no squat about porst, networking, etc :-D
[05:03] <actinic> lol finally got you!  :)
[05:03] <Jucato> ehehee
[05:03] <actinic> check it:  lsof -i
[05:03] <actinic> or ...
[05:03] <Dyegov> no, it's just /mnt/ intelikey
[05:03] <Jucato> weee! scrolling text...
[05:03] <actinic> nmap localhost
[05:03] <intelikey> Dyegov lol
[05:03] <actinic> or ...
[05:03] <actinic> netstat -an
[05:03] <Jucato> nmap isn't installed...
[05:03] <intelikey> you answered already :)   <Dyegov> It's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <Agios> actinic: netstat -a | grep LISTEN
[05:04] <Dyegov> jajaja Ok, what's noxt intelikey?
[05:04] <Jucato> ehehe thanks Agios
[05:04] <Agios> that will list all listening ports
[05:04] <actinic> thanks Agios
[05:04] <CatSoup> Anybody want to tell me how to get Java working with Konqueror? And don't give me a wiki about Java, it didn't work for me.
[05:04] <intelikey> Dyegov ok.  now we are stuck with the question why didn't it boot...
[05:04] <actinic> this concludes our command line session for the evening :)
[05:04] <Jucato> CatSoup: did you already choose which Java version the system willl use by default?
[05:04] <Jucato> actinic: yep eheheh!
[05:05] <Kr4t05> There seem to be no plugins for Kopete that allow me to use Yahoo! Voice, or AIM Voice Chat features. :<
[05:05] <Dyegov> maybe some mistake in the codes intelikey
[05:05] <Jucato> if I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?
[05:05] <actinic> here's a nice linux ref:  nixCraft FAQ's at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/
[05:05] <CatSoup> jucato: What do you mean?
[05:06] <charims> I have no sound except through gaim, so, i ran this test to help test my sound system "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp " this used to play a sound, but now i get this error "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" I think this may be the problem with my sound, so if someone would help me solve this problem...
[05:06] <intelikey> we confirmed that the address is correct  /dev/hda1 should == (hd0,0) in /boot/grub/device.map    you can check that.
[05:06] <intelikey> Dyegov ^
[05:06] <actinic> also, nixCraft Tutorials at http://forum.cyberciti.biz/tutorials-vf9.html
[05:06] <Jucato> CatSoup: it's in the Wiki. after you have installed Sun Java, you have to choose that version as the default Java version that the system will use
[05:06] <intelikey> Dyegov actually "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map
[05:07] <intelikey> "
[05:07] <Kr4t05> charims: something is dominating /dev/dsp/. Do you have any apps that would obviously use the sound system? (Audio players, etc)
[05:07] <Dyegov> Ok ill do it intelikey
[05:07] <CatSoup> i know, the wiki didn't work. it pointed to a bad package
[05:07] <CatSoup> package that didn't exist.
[05:07] <intelikey> should give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.
[05:07] <Jucato> !java
[05:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:08] <intelikey> Dyegov should give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.  confirm ?
[05:08] <Jucato> CatSoup: bad package? didn't you install sun-java5-bin from the repositories?
[05:08] <maltaethiron> hey yous all....who can tells me how to put itunes on this thing?
[05:08] <Dyegov> It's not working intelikey
[05:08] <charims> at KR4t05 no, nothing running right now, but i tried to run MPG123, and it didn't break the sound at first, so i think it has something to do with the fact that i tried to play something else for sound
[05:08] <intelikey> Dyegov what error ?
[05:08] <Dyegov> could you please put exactly what I have to put?
[05:08] <CatSoup> jucato: gimmie a second, sudo isn't working, i tihnk something else is using it.
[05:09] <Kr4t05> charims: try changing the sound system.
[05:09] <RogueThunder> *sighs* Would anyone mind helping me with my wlan setup? Ive tried all sorts of things, from faqs n such, and nothings helped... Though my adapter seems installed... i think.
[05:09] <intelikey> Dyegov put "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map"
[05:09] <Dyegov> intelikey , the error is in spanish, my system is in spanish
[05:09] <intelikey> oh.
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Dyegov, Pm me with the message
[05:09] <maltaethiron> what exactly is wrong, roguethunder?
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i speak spanish
[05:09] <charims> Kr4t05: It has to be on alsa though, right? Becuause my driver is an alsa driver
[05:09] <CatSoup> Jucato: when i do apt-get install sun-java5-jdk it says it can't find the package.
[05:09] <Kr4t05> charims: Let's just try this and see what happens.
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Well... basicaly, even by direclty adding in the information for my router, im not getting any connection or such
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: you need to have multiverse enabled
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:10] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:10] <Kr4t05> charims: system settings > Sound & Multimedia
[05:10] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago you dual boot with windows ?
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: also, you're trying to install jdk = Java Development Kit
[05:10] <_tomas_> oi
[05:10] <Dyegov> I dont know how to do that intelikey
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Though my wireless card, if im not mistaken does show up slightly strangely.
[05:10] <CatSoup> eheh ^_^
[05:10] <maltaethiron> hmm
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, err no
[05:10] <Kr4t05> charims: Stupid question, is "Enable the sound system" checked?
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Shows up as eth2...
[05:11] <charims> yes
[05:11] <maltaethiron> anyone think they can help out RogueThunder?
[05:11] <intelikey> Dyegov ah  hehhe i guess you have to quote it.  let me sent you another line.
[05:11] <RogueThunder> Im using latest normal distro, downloaded 2 nights ago.
[05:12] <Dyegov> Ok
[05:12] <intelikey> Dyegov put "grep -e '(hd0)' /boot/grub/device.map"
[05:12] <intelikey> without the ""
[05:12] <maltaethiron> ATN!: RogueThunder needs wlan help
[05:12] <CatSoup> adept won't launch >_>
[05:12] <_tomas_> oi
[05:12] <_tomas_> alguem a fala portugues?????????/
[05:12] <RogueThunder> ^.^' thanks for the finding help help atleast maltaethiron
[05:12] <Dyegov> it says "(hd0) /dev/hda" intelikey
[05:13] <_tomas_> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:13] <_tomas_> ALGUMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[05:13] <intelikey> jucato
[05:13] <_tomas_> DO BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[05:13] <_tomas_> I AM BRAZIL
[05:13] <_tomas_> YOU SPEAK PORTUGUES????
[05:13] <intelikey> Dyegov that's as it should be....  thinking.
[05:13] <maltaethiron> RogueThunder: no problem, I really wish I could help, but I'm kindof a n00b to linux
[05:13] <RogueThunder> ^.^ same here for the most part
[05:14] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:14] <CatSoup> what's multiverse mean anyways?
[05:14] <trpr> more than one reality?
[05:14] <derekS> anyone want to help with xdmcp?
[05:14] <derekS> and kde?
[05:14] <maltaethiron> could someone perhaps help me out with putting iTunes or maybe an iTunes clone onto Kubuntu????
[05:14] <derekS> i can't get it to work
[05:15] <RogueThunder> whats your prob malt?
[05:15] <maltaethiron> i just want to know if there's an iTunes port or clone for kde
[05:15] <RogueThunder> well
[05:15] <RogueThunder> i doubt it would be hard to run itunes itself in wine
[05:15] <redcard> Ugh.  No DRM :P
[05:15] <RogueThunder> though, thats a bit of a bag of tricks on its own
[05:16] <RogueThunder> other than that... ugh dont use itunes so i dont relay know what it does at this point
[05:16] <intelikey> Dyegov i haven't left you.  just give me a few minutes here.
[05:16] <maltaethiron> meh, what's wine roguethunder?
[05:16] <Dyegov> Ok, no problem intelikey
[05:17] <RogueThunder> Wine is a nifty program for linux that allows you to run windows programs in linux without windows.
[05:17] <maltaethiron> oh, thats..nifty
[05:17] <maltaethiron> lol
[05:17] <maltaethiron> !wine
[05:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:17] <maltaethiron> w00t
[05:17] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[05:17] <RogueThunder> exaclty.
[05:18] <CatSoup> well the java installation just farked itself up.
[05:19] <maltaethiron> now, can i get wine via synaptic or adept?
[05:19] <intelikey> !repos
[05:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:20] <pk0nink> wine repository is at http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt
[05:20] <maltaethiron> oh its a repo?
[05:20] <RogueThunder> adept has, appernetly an older verison
[05:20] <CatSoup> http://winehq.org/site/download-d
[05:20] <RogueThunder> atleast, so i herd
[05:21] <maltaethiron> ok, thanks a lot guys, and roguethunder...
[05:21] <RogueThunder> So anyone willing and able to give me a bit of wlan help?
[05:21] <maltaethiron> i gotta get off now, but ill check all this out
[05:21] <maltaethiron> thanks
[05:22] <maltaethiron> later bros
[05:25] <DFM> rogue: the best I can tell you is that if your adapter appears to be showing but won't show any networks you may need to use ndiswrapper to install the proper dirver.
[05:26] <RogueThunder> hum
[05:26] <RogueThunder> and... i would go about this how?
[05:26] <tj_> plz plz plz, help a linux n00blet?
[05:26] <DFM> I just loaded a machine with a built in wifi. It showed but I couldn't see my wifi.
[05:27] <RogueThunder> stating what you want help with, generlay helps ^.^'
[05:27] <DFM> Further research revealed that you needed ndiswrapper to get it to actually work and then it would only work dismly.
[05:27] <tj_> ok
[05:27] <DFM> tj: what do you need?
[05:27] <tj_> I need to install firefox
[05:27] <tj_> I have the firefox folder
[05:27] <RogueThunder> open adept.
[05:27] <tj_> with all the files
[05:27] <RogueThunder> find firefox
[05:27] <RogueThunder> tell it to install
[05:27] <tj_> adept?
[05:27] <RogueThunder> the package installer
[05:27] <RogueThunder> !adept
[05:27] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:28] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[05:28] <intelikey> Dyegov i just looked up a possable fix.   lets edit the menu.lst again
[05:28] <Dyegov> Ok intelikey
[05:28] <tj_> whats the password?
[05:28] <tj_> o
[05:28] <tj_> ok
[05:28] <tj_> nvm
[05:28] <DFM> tj: you should have ff already installed by default. no sense in downloading and making the package when ur package manager will do it for you. unless you are wanting to leatn
[05:28] <intelikey> Dyegov "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:28] <Dyegov> Ok, I'm on it intelikey
[05:29] <RogueThunder> Ive actualy had it not preinstalled before, but yeah.
[05:29] <intelikey> make it look like these lines.
[05:29] <intelikey> root (hd0,0)
[05:29] <intelikey>  makeactive
[05:29] <intelikey>  chainloader --force +1
[05:29] <intelikey>  boot
[05:29] <DFM> rogue: what I done was find a wifi adapter that was said to work out of the box. bought it and have been surfing since.
[05:29] <RogueThunder> *chuckles*
[05:29] <RogueThunder> That sucks.
[05:30] <tj_> I picked install
[05:30] <tj_> I just wait?
[05:30] <RogueThunder> So far, everything elce works perfectly on my pretty little anceint slave system, but i cant get it online because of this...
[05:30] <DFM> this was after 2 weeks of trying to get several adapter's on hand to work with ndiswrapper cards that some said worked out of the box.
[05:30] <Dyegov> Ok, they're exactly like that, invluding "Title" ay the beggining intelikey
[05:31] <DFM> I gave up and bought a d-link dwl-g650
[05:31] <intelikey> four lines.  i'll quote them for you  "Background color"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"
[05:31] <intelikey> like that Dyegov  ?
[05:31] <intelikey> and yes plus the title windows line
[05:31] <tj_> is it installing?
[05:31] <Dyegov> Background color? intelikey
[05:31] <DFM> i found it at a target locally and then my friends found it online for about half once I done the leg work and found a card that actually worked
[05:31] <intelikey> oooops
[05:31] <intelikey> no
[05:32] <DFM> tj: did you tell it to apply after selecting the package?
[05:32] <RogueThunder> Well ive already got a card that *should* operate.
[05:32] <intelikey> dyegov these four lines.   "root (hd0,0)"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"
[05:32] <DFM> if so then it will tell you when it is done and viola it should show under the internet tab under aplications
[05:33] <Dyegov> yes, but I've added "title Windows XP" at the beginig, an then those 4
[05:33] <DFM> rogue: did yoiu check the list of cards to see if it was supported? some will work but are finicky
[05:33] <intelikey> Dyegov correct.  save and test
[05:33] <Dyegov> Ok, brb intelikey
[05:33] <RogueThunder> Heh... mines probobly in the finicky list... cant remember
[05:33] <tj_> how i tel it to apply?
[05:34] <RogueThunder> Its a finicky card under windows... nuf said.
[05:35] <DFM> tj: when you run your package manager and find ff, you mark it (if in ubuntu) or request install under kubuntu, then up top click on apply and it will download and install
[05:36] <tj_> ok, i applied
[05:36] <tj_> how I acsess it?
[05:36] <DFM> rogue: I would just spend $37 on the d-link if you don't want to hassle with that card
[05:36] <DFM> tj: refer to earlier post. Once it complete's it will tell you it is done. then go under the internet list and it will be there.
[05:37] <tj_> I don't see it, it's done tho
[05:37] <intelikey> hey if i'm in the market for a very dependable eth card what's the linux users choice ?
[05:37] <DFM> anything that connects to the internet is listed under "internet". Close the package manager
[05:37] <tj_> it's closed
[05:38] <intelikey>     linux users ?
[05:38] <reddwolf78> how do i get win
[05:38] <reddwolf78> wine*
[05:38] <tj_> win
[05:38] <DFM> intel: i like about any linksys card. they have always showed up and worked since RH 7.3
[05:38] <tj_> wine
[05:38] <arepie> !wine
[05:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:38] <tj_> wine is not an emulator lol
[05:38] <intelikey> reddwolf78 sudo apt-get install wine
[05:39] <reddwolf78> thank you i had to relog in and lost the page
[05:39] <DFM> can't say the same for their wi-fi's
[05:39] <tj_> anyway
[05:39] <tj_> how i see firefox
[05:39] <tj_> ?
[05:39] <intelikey> DFM ty.
[05:39] <Dyegov> intelikey , I'm using windows!!!
[05:39] <DFM> tj: try this, open a terminal (konsole) and type firefox................
[05:39] <tj_> ok
[05:39] <tj_> h/o
[05:40] <intelikey> Dyegov you're welcome.
[05:40] <intelikey> :)
[05:40] <intelikey> and i'm gone.
[05:40] <Dyegov> Thanks a lot intelikey
[05:40] <tj_> YAY
[05:40] <tj_> thanx
[05:40] <tj_> how i know how to get to it?
[05:40] <DFM> tj: have a good evening
[05:40] <reddwolf78> thanks
[05:40] <tj_> besides using konsole
[05:41] <reddwolf78> and getting wine will help with me getting exe files to load up
[05:41] <reddwolf78> right or wrong
[05:41] <DFM> tj: alternately you can hit control + f2 and type the command firefix
[05:41] <Dyegov> I'll get back to kubuntu and try to fix some things, thanks again intelikey
[05:41] <Jucato> reddwolf78: half right, hafl wrong? not all windows programs will run in Wine
[05:41] <RogueThunder> Hum
[05:41] <tj_> does it require me to reboot?
[05:42] <reddwolf78> what about winamp doyou think that would run
[05:42] <DFM> tj: finally if you can start firefox then I am reasonably sure it is showing up under a menue you have just yet to find it.
[05:42] <DFM> tj: does what require a reboot? the install of ff?
[05:42] <Jucato> reddwolf78: hm... I wouldn't know. I think winehq.org has a sort of database of what apps run/don't run in Wine
[05:42] <tj_> yeah
[05:42] <reddwolf78> ok
[05:43] <Jucato> reddwolf78: but may I ask why you need Winamp?
[05:43] <DFM> tj: no. about the only time yoiu must reboot is when you load or install a new kernel
[05:43] <RogueThunder> ive found another possible fix in my spesific case, problem is i cant modify the file i need to... its the interfaces file at ect/network, wont let me save it...
[05:43] <tj_> it should have added it already, right?, I have checked the K Menu?
[05:43] <RogueThunder> *sighs* i assume this is some kind of need for a sudo command or the like... im used to having root heh
[05:44] <DFM> tj: it's inthere somewhere. if yoiu can't find it reboot and check
[05:44] <tj_> ok
[05:44] <ravenous> kdesu kate interfaces
[05:44] <DFM> rogue: have you attempted to open the said file using nano?
[05:44] <RogueThunder> nano?
[05:44] <reddwolf78> so i can dj on sat nights winamp has a build in program of shoutcast
[05:45] <Jucato> aaah
[05:45] <RogueThunder> it opens automaticaly in kate, so, no
[05:45] <reddwolf78> that i need for broacasting
[05:45] <Jucato> reddwolf78: have you tried searching in Google for a similar app in Linux?
[05:45] <DFM> that is just another text editor but it never fails me when I use it
[05:45] <RogueThunder> nor is anything by that name avalible in the open with menu...
[05:45] <spazz> Hey Jucato ........ I am trapped inside Knoppix Live CD now ... (
[05:45] <RogueThunder> its a permisions issue, im sure
[05:45] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Try freshmeat, as they have all sorts of stuff for that
[05:45] <RogueThunder> i just
[05:45] <RogueThunder> dont know how to give it permission
[05:45] <spazz> My HDD finally died. Heads crashed I think.
[05:45] <DFM> command as follow sudo nano + path
[05:46] <Jucato> spazz: oh man... that's bad....
[05:46] <spazz> Jucato, yea, lol. I got a few errors for the first time, saying I had bad sectors.
[05:46] <reddwolf78> do you have the link for that
[05:46] <tj_> YAY
[05:46] <tj_> firefox!!1
[05:46] <tj_> it worked
[05:47] <tj_> but I guess it needed a reboot
[05:47] <spazz> The Windows installers I tried ..,. would immediately bluescreen, Ubuntu Live CD refuses to run ... and ... bah, lol. I need new HDD ... :(((
[05:47] <DFM> when you use sudo with nano you will have the ability to modify the file and save it. just go slow and check the controls listed at the bottom
[05:47] <tj_> I also have abyss web server, how I install it?
[05:47] <DFM> tj: same way you installed ff
[05:48] <Jucato> spazz: are you absolutely sure that the HDD is dead?? :-(
[05:48] <spazz> It's dead enough not to want to have any OS installed to it.
[05:48] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:48] <tj_> I have all the files, it auto adds it to the package installer
[05:48] <tj_> ?
[05:49] <DFM> bkudria: youi are over my head on that one
[05:49] <spazz> that sucks too.
[05:49] <spazz> i have an iBook with a dead HDD too.
[05:49] <spazz> And it's LCD is dead, like my Sony's is dead, lol.
[05:50] <DFM> tj: when you select the main package in debian based systems the package manager will usually always get all req packages'
[05:50] <RogueThunder> *whisltes along* rebooting the ancient pentium 3! Resurect o slab of the past! Oh yo ho hum.
[05:50] <Jucato> can .msi (MS Installer?) be run in wine
[05:51] <DFM> rogue: what kind of machine are you running your distro on?
[05:51] <RogueThunder> Probobly would have to install ms installer into it first... which i could imagine possible... depending.
[05:51] <nathan> I haven't been able to get MSI's to work at all :(
[05:51] <RogueThunder> *chuckles* A throwtogether p3-800 slot 1 oldie i put together out of the leftovers of 3 computers and a few other spare parts ^.^
[05:51] <Jucato> nathan: oh.. krap...
[05:51] <nathan> What are you trying to install?
[05:52] <RogueThunder> with a nifty viper 770 vidcard
[05:52] <Jucato> a game I downloaded....
[05:52] <RogueThunder> Many o years ago... the cpu was our main system heh.
[05:52] <nathan> oh gotcha. I'm sure it could be done, but with some nice tweaking since MSI's deal more with OS files than standard self-contained EXEs
[05:53] <DFM> been there done that
[05:53] <Jucato> yeah.. time to Google...
[05:53] <RogueThunder> ^.^ yes well, i finaly got the poor thing to boot...
[05:53] <RogueThunder> like
[05:53] <RogueThunder> a week ago
[05:53] <tj_> I have a .rpm, wtf is this?
[05:53] <nathan> Good luck and if you figure it out....be sure to proclaim it to the world! :)
[05:53] <DFM> i picked up a piii 800 thinkpad for a $100 bucks and couldn't bare to load m$ since it only had 128megs of ram
[05:53] <RogueThunder> Your fermilar with the low voltage signal line used in a ps2 port, right?
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I had to replace the bulbs in my Sony GRX LCD's quite often.
[05:54] <tj_> ?
[05:54] <tj_> anyone?
[05:54] <spazz> yea, lol this is a GRX570.
[05:54] <DFM> y
[05:54] <nathan> RPM?
[05:54] <RogueThunder> A bad switchbox ran the high voltage monitor wire through it.
[05:54] <tj_> what i do with a .rpm
[05:54] <DFM> tj: hold your forses and be patient
[05:54] <RogueThunder> Thats why the system needed repairs.
[05:54] <spazz> LeeJunFan, the screen comes on, but its dark for like a split second when I first turn on my computer.
[05:54] <tj_> I also have the .zip for limewire
[05:54] <nathan> Depends on what linux distro you are running
[05:54] <DFM> we can only respond so fast
[05:54] <tj_> kubuntu
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> spazz: Had 2 of them, both of them also suffer from the notorious bad motherboard solder job and only 1/2 of RAM is recognized.
[05:54] <tj_> obviously
[05:54] <RogueThunder> 48 volts, run through a 1.2v max port *shuders*
[05:54] <tj_> lol
[05:55] <RogueThunder> Indeed, it booted afterwards.
[05:55] <DFM> rpm is Red Hat Package manager
[05:55] <spazz> yea. this used to be nice in its day lol.
[05:55] <tj_> ok
[05:55] <spazz> Now I am getting a Macbook Pro woo. Put all three OS's on it.
[05:55] <nathan> Then the RPM isn't useful to you at all..... Kubuntu is based on Debian and uses a different package manager. You'll need to use the ZIP file if you can't find anything with a .deb
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yeah, sounds like the backlight. The bulbs are cheap but the work is a PITA.
[05:55] <Jucato> tj_: rpm stands for RedHat Package Manger. it is the .deb of the Red Hat-based/RPM-based world
[05:55] <spazz> LeeJunFan, how much are the HDDs for these?
[05:55] <tj_> ok, I have the .zip
[05:55] <tj_> I just extract
[05:55] <tj_> ?
[05:55] <DFM> at the stage your at leave it aling and stick with .deb packages or read up on alien to use other distro's package's.
[05:55] <Jucato> !limewire
[05:55] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I dunno, any standard 2.5" should work.
[05:56] <spazz> oh really ..
[05:56] <RogueThunder> Well
[05:56] <spazz> cuz i know it just pops out lol.
[05:56] <Jucato> tj_:  see that link about LimeWire
[05:56] <RogueThunder> I actualy got a differant responce now.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yeah, the HD itself is inside that little enclosure.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> spazz: you take that part that pops out apart and the HDD is inside that.
[05:56] <tj_> how i run the .sh
[05:56] <tj_> ?
[05:56] <RogueThunder> Oh... joy, now the card just doesnt work at all.
[05:57] <spazz> Wonder how much I could get a 2.5 drive for... dunno what laptop hdds brands ar egood
[05:57] <DFM> i find frostwire better and it's a clone of limewire but with out the nags
[05:57] <RogueThunder> That... obvously didnt work...
[05:57] <nathan> Run the .sh from Konsole
[05:57] <tj_> I type cd /home/tj/Desktop/LimeWire
[05:57] <tj_> then
[05:57] <tj_> what?
[05:57] <DFM> spazz: I think newegg listed a WD 80 or 100 gig 7200 rpm for $100
[05:57] <nathan> limewire.sh I think
[05:57] <obf213> anyone know wehre i can watch tv on my computer for fee
[05:58] <tj_> it just tells me
[05:58] <tj_> bash: limewire.sh: command not found
[05:58] <Jucato> nathan: lol! wine has a utility for installing .msi files!
[05:58] <spazz> id only want like ... a 60gb or something
[05:58] <Hawkwind> Ouch!  $100 for 100GB is damn expensive
[05:58] <robotgeek> tj_: chmod +x limewire.sh, ./limewire.sh
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: You are much better off buying atleast 160GB now days
[05:59] <RogueThunder> Well, for all i havent gotten any farther, i now understand how to edit things as if i was root on rootless mode...
[05:59] <nathan> No Way!! Damn, nice find!
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: You can get 160GB drives for under $60
[05:59] <reddwolf78> i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work
[05:59] <nathan> tj: gimme a sec
[05:59] <Jucato> nathan: "msiexec /i <.msi file>"
[05:59] <spazz> gah! ... 2.5 laptop drivers?
[05:59] <spazz> drives *
[05:59] <RogueThunder> >.> i barley missed a deal of a 250 for 30$ a month ago in a 3.5''
[05:59] <nathan> Way to go jucato... time to do some installin'
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: Oh for a laptop
[05:59] <obf213> !tv
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <spazz> yea
[05:59] <tj_> ok
[06:00] <tj_> it now workie
[06:00] <DFM> hawkwind: I think it was the whole 7200 rpm thing
[06:00] <spazz> need cheap laptop driver
[06:00] <tj_> it no*
[06:00] <tj_> workie
[06:00] <nathan> oh wait
[06:00] <nathan> you'll need to type in runLime.sh I think
[06:00] <Hawkwind> spazz: 80GB for about $75 on pricewatch
[06:00] <tj_> ah
[06:01] <nathan> Just remember what that other guy said, you'll need Java 1.4 installed atleast
[06:01] <spazz> LeeJunFan, how much did those builbs cost ?
[06:01] <spazz> LeeJunFan,  bulbs for the lcd
[06:01] <tj_> o
[06:01] <DFM> I haven't looked for a laptop drive yet. I want a bigger and faster one but don't want to spend to much money since this laptop is old
[06:01] <tj_> i get that with firefoz
[06:01] <tj_> firefox*
[06:02] <nathan> Well if you have it installed properly then runLime.sh will install Limewire for ya.... and if it doesn't install you'll need to get Java installed, which isn't that hard
[06:02] <spazz> DFM, me too. Don't want to blow much money on this, I mean the LCD is already dead.
[06:03] <DFM> my $100 laptop is up to $230 just by adding 256 megs of ram and a wifi card
[06:03] <tj_> ok
[06:03] <intelikey> back on my own box.... better.
[06:03] <tj_> not so hard, give me a link for how to install
[06:03] <DFM> I ant another 256 to max out memory and then replace the hd.
[06:04] <intelikey> startx error
[06:04] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[06:04] <intelikey> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[06:04] <reddwolf78> i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work
[06:04] <intelikey> where would that permissions error be happening ?
[06:04] <DFM> then my $100 laptop will be $400 and then I can be frustrated that for $500 I could have bought a new laptop
[06:04] <nathan> Install Java?
[06:04] <tj_> yes
[06:04] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You should search freshmeat.net for something linux native to use instead of winamp
[06:05] <tj_> is it in the packages?
[06:05] <reddwolf78> ok
[06:05] <enzo> question
[06:05] <nathan> take a look in the Package Manager, I haven't looked there for a while
[06:05] <nathan> ok?
[06:05] <enzo> I'm about to install Kubuntu
[06:05] <enzo> on my desktop
[06:05] <enzo> but this time, on another drive
[06:05] <nathan> k
[06:05] <enzo> how do I go about doing that?
[06:05] <DFM> to get limewire to work I had to use automatix to get the correct java environment installed
[06:05] <enzo> the partition setup part
[06:05] <nathan> The installer will ask where you want it
[06:06] <nathan> Just pick the second drive instead of a partition on your primary drive
[06:06] <intelikey> nathan i hope you are not talking about the live cd installer.......
[06:06] <enzo> nathan, so what do I do for my root drive, just leave it as it is?
[06:06] <DFM> yes
[06:07] <tj_> wtf, so how am I gonna go about installing java?
[06:07] <nathan> no I'm not, is the live one different?
[06:07] <Healot> !java
[06:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:07] <enzo> I'm on the LIVE CD
[06:07] <nathan> tj: did you check Adept?
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> spazz: sry - ran out for a bit. The bulbs were fairly cheap - less than $20/ea I think.
[06:07] <intelikey> enzo  you set your new root '/' to be where you want linux installed.
[06:07] <nathan> enzo: sorry buddy, I'll let someone else take it... I didn't use the Live CD
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> spazz: soldering skills are required.
[06:07] <enzo> thank you nathan for your input
[06:08] <DFM> but let grub install on the MBR. If you ever want to remove linux just use a windows boot disk and fdisk the mbr
[06:08] <enzo> intelikey, but doing so won't fark over my GRUB and initial Kubuntu setup on the first HDD?
[06:09] <intelikey> grub has nothing to do with where the system installes to enzo   but yes it is going to over write grub.
[06:09] <spazz> LeeJunFan,  for 20$ I will learn lmfao. Where did you get them? I tried finding them before.... can always get someone else to solder it for me lol. I know like 3 electricions.
[06:09] <spazz> How long does it take though? .. like how difficult is it?
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> spazz: this is where I got mine. http://www.moniserv.com/doc/ccfl.htm - actually only $12
[06:09] <DFM> enzo: you pick what hdd it goes on. you don't have to let it install on your win dirve
[06:09] <nathan> hey tj_, you there?
[06:09] <enzo> my main concern is losing what I have now on my first/primary HDD
[06:09] <enzo> OIC
[06:10] <rouzic_ausente> Good Bye!
[06:11] <nonickname> http://pastebin.ca/152757
[06:11] <tj_> i'm here
[06:11] <Dyegov> excuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?
[06:11] <intelikey> enzo at step 5 or 6  can't recall which  it asks you to confirm the drive/partitions/mountpoints.  there are check boxes at the right that you check to have them formated.   make sure none of the partitions you want to keep are checked for formating.
[06:11] <nathan> ok so go to www.java.com and download the Linux installer (non RPM)
[06:11] <spazz> LeeJunFan, hmm. So basically .......... 60$ for new HDD ... and 20$ for LCD bulb? ... hmm. lol.
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> spazz: make sure you pay attention while taking apart the LCD to get the layers of plastic back together correctly, and try to be as dust free as possible. I got fingerprints on mine but they don't show up, but hair and the fragments of white reflector that get in the LCD will show up bad.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> intelikey: I'm still working on my library.
[06:12] <DFM> nathan: are you trying to get ur java working for limewire?
[06:12] <InuDuelist> I was hoping it really wouldn't take up my whole night.
[06:12] <spazz> ... not sure how I would try taking apart. Havent looked at it yet.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> :/
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I think I've done it a total of about 4-5 times between the 2 laptops. about a 2 - 2 1/2 hr job, probably a lot more the first time.
[06:12] <tj_> it keeps trying to be opened with kate
[06:13] <intelikey> InuDuelist sorry, you lost me.   dirrect questions are a lot easier to answer.
[06:13] <nathan> ya.... right click on the .bin and get the properties. Under the permissions TAB you need to check the box to make the file an executable
[06:13] <tj_> anyone?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> spazz: you have to take out a few screws and bend some tabs out of the way to get it all apart. And remove 2 ribbon cables. And a lot of tape.
[06:13] <nathan> Then you need to run the file in the Konsole ./jre-blahblahblah
[06:13] <InuDuelist> intelikey: It wasn't a question.
[06:13] <nathan> and it'll install it all for you
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> spazz: make sure you take the tape off first or risk damaging the ribbon cable.
[06:13] <InuDuelist> I was just telling you that I'm still working on my library.
[06:14] <spazz> Does the tape have to be put back on?
[06:14] <tj_> I ran it, now what, nothing popped up?
[06:14] <DFM> nathan: food for thought. I tried everything to get my java right and kept getting error messages when ever I tried to run limewire.
[06:14] <intelikey> :)     but mine was an indirrect question    i.e.  what/which library InuDuelist
[06:14] <Dyegov> excuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?
[06:15] <nathan> DFM: I never had any issues once 1.4 JRE was installed and it's been working fine.... hmmmmm
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yes, to make sure the ribbon cables don't come out. Also some is copper grounding tape which needs to be re-attached.
[06:15] <RogueThunder> Wow... such a fast boot sequence compared to a windows running laptop XD
[06:15] <InuDuelist> Hey, Dyegov is still here. :D
[06:15] <enzo> When it asks me about Mount Point, I put the root "/" to my new HDD, right?
[06:15] <nathan> tj: you need to run it in the Konsole, not double clicking
[06:15] <InuDuelist> intelikey: My collection. The entire thing.
[06:15] <InuDuelist> :/
[06:15] <tj_> o
[06:15] <tj_> ok
[06:15] <DFM> the only way I could get my jave right to use limewire was to use automatix to install it. then it worked. maybe you will have better luck