[09:04] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:05] <crimsun> amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on
[09:06] <SpAwN> should i use sudo to do that cmd?
[09:06] <crimsun> no
[09:06] <SpAwN> k
[09:06] <SpAwN> done
[09:06] <crimsun> have you ever had sound (e.g., live cd)?
[09:06] <SpAwN> no
[09:07] <crimsun> if that doesn't work, dmesg
[09:07] <SpAwN> i used mandriva linux b4..and it had no probs with it....i tried centos a while back and had no sound either....also a older version of ubuntu....
[09:07] <crimsun> I may not respond immediately, phone
[09:07] <SpAwN> sure thanks man
[09:08] <SpAwN> omg crimsun it WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:08] <SpAwN> i hear music
[09:08] <crimsun> excellent.
[09:08] <SpAwN> thanks god...........thanks so much
[09:08] <Healot> duh
[09:08] <SpAwN> i need to write that down so when i do a real full install i wont bug ya again ;)
[09:13] <SpAwN> brb gonna fire up xchat
[09:16] <Healot>  no one read the MigratingFromWindowsToubuntu documentation around here?
[09:18] <sketchb0x> anyone around that could help me with a kde xorg config
[09:18] <sketchb0x> my dual display nvidia card works on the login screen, but when kde boots up the second monitor goes out
[09:18] <sketchb0x> anyone have any idea what changes from one screen to another?
[09:18] <sketchb0x> that would mess up my xorg config
[09:18] <sketchb0x> kde 3.5.3
[09:19] <Lynoure> Healot: I haven't as I didn't migrate from Windows to Ubuntu... Do you want feedback on it, or something?
[09:19] <ArmedGeek> sketchb0x: TwinView ?
[09:19] <whoiam55> !info mythtv
[09:19] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:20] <sketchb0x> twinview is correct
[09:20] <Healot> no... it seems people don't do reading anymore
[09:20] <Healot> but they watch Da Vinci Code
[09:20] <whoiam55> !info mythgame
[09:20] <ubotu> mythgame: A game frontend (xmame, snes, nes, pc) module for MythTV. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[09:20] <Lynoure> Healot: I bet many people come to the channel without knowing that document exists.
[09:21] <sketchb0x> ArmedGeek, it should work, and has worked before on this same box...
[09:21] <martinjh99> What package are the kernel headers in?
[09:21] <Healot> it's not even listed on the channel topic...
[09:22] <Healot> but nvm...
[09:22] <Lynoure> Healot: can you give the url for it. It wasn't googlable as easily as I thought (in fact some of the hits hinted at such document not existing, making further googling less likely for most people)
[09:22] <Healot> pretty hard huh?
[09:23] <sketchb0x> any idears ArmedGeek?
[09:24] <martinjh99> !info kernel-headers
[09:24] <ubotu> Package kernel-headers does not exist in dapper
[09:24] <cpk1|away> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingFromWindows lynoure?
[09:24] <__osh__> what's the quick-key for switching desktops in kde these days?
[09:24] <Healot> maybe because the faq on wiki has no spacing
[09:24] <cpk1|away> first hit
[09:25] <cpk1> "Migrating From Windows To ubuntu documentation" gave me that link as first result...
[09:25] <martinjh99> What package is the Kernel Headers in? Need it for compiling Vmware Kernel Modules...
[09:26] <Lynoure> cpk1: looks like something that should be on the topic on in the channel faq if such thing existed. Would prolly weed out at least handful of questions a day
[09:26] <Healot> !find headers
[09:26] <ubotu> Found: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686 (and 33 others)
[09:26] <Healot> !info linux-headers
[09:26] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[09:26] <Healot> !info linux-headers-386
[09:26] <ubotu> linux-headers-386: Linux kernel headers on 386. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:26] <Healot> !info linux-headers-686
[09:26] <ubotu> linux-headers-686: Linux kernel headers on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:26] <Lynoure> cpk1: documentation prolly was the magic word. instead of howto
[09:27] <cpk1> but its so much easier to have someone tell you exactly what to do than read it =P
[09:27] <martinjh99> Got them thanks Healot!
[09:29] <Healot> martinjh99: the most catchy way to install is "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[09:29] <Lynoure> cpk1: Indeed, but I think I'll link it to my blog anyway, so that maybe someone will read it (but no one reads my blog...)
[09:33] <sketchb0x> man this kde x issue is buggin me out
[09:34] <sketchb0x> (0)(0)
[09:34] <Healot> what issue?
[09:35] <an> any app can open chm file in kde?
[09:35] <Healot> !find chm
[09:35] <ubotu> Found: fetchmail, archmbox, fetchmailconf, gnochm, kchmviewer (and 8 others)
[09:36] <Healot> !info kchmviewer
[09:36] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3a-1 (dapper), package size 171 kB, installed size 568 kB
[09:37] <cpk1> lynoure: that wiki seems to be pretty helpful for a new person i suppose, still seems pretty general though
[09:37] <an> thanku
[09:39] <jaro> Hmm maybe another trial configuring of the Laptop Monitor ????
[09:44] <default> hi all
[09:45] <sketchb0x> yo
[09:45] <default> is anyone able to assist me with installing gcc? (I'm a complete noob)
[09:45] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[09:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[09:46] <sarahg> hi
[09:46] <Hobbsee> sk3tchb0x: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:46] <Hobbsee> hey sarahg
[09:46] <Healot> !info build-essential
[09:46] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:46] <sk3tchb0x> hobbsee, for my twinview issue?
[09:47] <Hobbsee> sk3tchb0x: sorry, that should have gone to default
[09:47] <sk3tchb0x> cool
[09:48] <Hobbsee> sk3tchb0x: not a clue w.r.t. twinview
[09:48] <Hobbsee> (oh good.  everything will stop highligting like crazy now :P)
[09:48] <default> !info gcc
[09:48] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:49] <Healot> the dualmonitor configuration for nvidia graphics accelerator
[09:49] <Healot> !info twinview
[09:49] <ubotu> Package twinview does not exist in dapper
[09:49] <Healot> !find twin
[09:49] <ubotu> Found: twin, twinkle
[09:50] <Healot> !info twin
[09:50] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[09:50] <Healot> hoho funny
[09:54] <an> any app can read all pdf ,pdg and caj file?
[09:55] <Healot> what are those in the first place
[09:55] <an> healot?
[09:55] <an> wut u mean
[09:55] <Healot> what files are these pdg caj?
[09:56] <Healot> please don;t give extension of probably unpopular format
[09:56] <bowler_iain> How can
[09:56] <bowler_iain> how do you install flaash on to linux
[09:56] <Healot> !flash > bowler_iain
[09:57] <an> healot,unpopular? there are lots of files of these 3 format
[09:57] <bowler_iain> how do you install flash player
[09:57] <Hobbsee> !flash
[09:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <Healot> I am not in the electronic documentation business
[09:58] <Healot> I don;t know then
[09:58] <lowtech> Hobbsee: how would i get it to send me something in /msg, or can it do that?
[09:59] <an> okanyway ,thanku
[09:59] <Hobbsee> lowtech: sure, !whateveryouwanttobetoldabout > lowtech
[10:00] <lowtech> Hobbsee: thanks
[10:00] <Hobbsee> or !tell lowtech about whatever
[10:00] <lowtech> ok
[10:03] <Healot> !info india
[10:03] <ubotu> Package india does not exist in dapper
[10:04] <BoSJo> Hi all: where do I find the [apt-get]  commands?
[10:05] <Healot> man apt-get
[10:05] <Healot> oh man... I love you, man
[10:06] <BoSJo> Healot: thanks
[10:06] <Hobbsee> BoSJo: also apt-get --help or apt-get -h
[10:06] <grothesk> Hello!
[10:07] <flo> i have this problem....libcairo is upgradable and when i try to do that i get upgrade (break) and gnome is giviing me a lot of error mesegez , is inusable, nothing works anymore, how can i get to know wich package enters in conflict with libcairo?i actualy use kubuntu
[10:07] <Healot> to get full documentation of most Linux program, "man"
[10:07] <grothesk> I'm searching for a kradio version for Dapper. May I use this .deb? http://debian.cn99.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kradio/
[10:07] <default> yeah, like... "man apt-get"
[10:07] <crimsun> !info kradio
[10:07] <ubotu> Package kradio does not exist in dapper
[10:07] <Healot> flo: "apt-get -f install"
[10:08] <crimsun> grothesk: you can try
[10:08] <bowler_iain> theres nothing to do with install flash player
[10:08] <Healot> grothesk: i think so...
[10:08] <grothesk> How can I tell for which ubuntu is that 'universe'-tree?
[10:09] <crimsun> grothesk: you can't unless you read the Packages file
[10:10] <Healot> grothesk: you can sort that using adept or synaptic
[10:11] <grothesk> How can I read them?
[10:12] <grothesk> BTW: How would I use adept to install a local .deb?
[10:12] <bowler_iain> Lynoure: Help
[10:13] <sensei> dpkg -i
[10:13] <sensei> Ah sry
[10:13] <flo> Healot: libcairo2: Dipende: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) ma 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1is going to be installed , i can't get the sense of that
[10:13] <Healot> just press y
[10:13] <Healot> and it should isntall all the dependencies
[10:14] <crimsun> flo: pastebin ``apt-cache policy libcairo2''
[10:16] <grothesk> flo, this dependency is not to be resolved by now.
[10:16] <uniq> morning.
[10:16] <grothesk> Maybe try later.
[10:21] <grothesk> flo, is that a .deb provided by beerorkid?
[10:21] <flo> grothesk, i think i gotit, i have 500 http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages , and i'll comentit then apt-get update, right?
[10:22] <crimsun> yes.
[10:22] <crimsun> external repos are generally bad.
[10:23] <grothesk> Sometimes 3rd-party repos may cause trouble.
[10:23] <grothesk> As in this case...
[10:23] <flo> i realy experinced that on my own ....good to know for the future
[10:23] <flo> thx
[10:30] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: hmm?
[10:33] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: When you just ask "Help", it sounds like you are drowning or something. So what's the matter?
[10:34] <bowler_iain>  how do you install flash player on linux
[10:34] <crimsun> install flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse
[10:35] <bowler_iain> crimsun: i've tryied that
[10:36] <crimsun> bowler_iain: what Web browser are you usinG?
[10:37] <bowler_iain> konqueror
[10:37] <crimsun> bowler_iain: ls /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/
[10:38] <bowler_iain> nothing
[10:38] <gupta> where are the network profiles stored ppl?
[10:38] <crimsun> bowler_iain: then it probably failed to install due to mirror (network) problems, which is a known issue
[10:39] <gupta> I can find the individual files for my default profile in /etc/resolv.con /etc/network . But if I add another profile, its settings are nowhere to be found .
[10:39] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: you can also go to the macromedia site and install flash from there.
[10:39] <crimsun> bowler_iain: follow my instructions timestamped "2006-06-17 21:03:36 EDT" at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/48620
[10:43] <Lynoure> hmmm...
[10:44] <cpk1> actually crimsun dont you mean your post on the 18th? =P
[10:46] <[Nige] > anyone got mplayer pr8 installed yet?
[10:47] <crimsun> cpk1: ?
[10:47] <Zaire> ok mandriva channel is dictator styles in their language policy
[10:48] <Lynoure> Zaire: well, swearing is not welcome here either.
[10:48] <Zaire> they gave me hell for saying damn
[10:49] <Lynoure> Zaire: sqitch to Ubuntu and we'll be glad to help you :)
[10:49] <Zaire> I haven't had anyone tell me to watch my mouth over saying that word in atleast 17 years
[10:49] <Zaire> if I had an ATI card I would switch
[10:50] <Zaire> well I can see the harsher words of nature like everyones fav F word lol
[10:50] <Lynoure> Zaire: there is probably some general linux support channel as well
[10:51] <Zaire> my issue is just trying to get tor and Privoxy setup
[10:51] <cpk1> i looked at that link you gave crimsun because i was interested, the timestamp you gave was a different poster than you and didnt have that workaround that you posted on the 18th
[10:51] <Hobbsee> Zaire: yeah, most people dont get away with that - although occasionally it will happen in dev channels, out of extreme frustration
[10:52] <Zaire> so I see
[10:52] <cpk1> zaire i got kicked from a channel for saying "crap"
[10:52] <Zaire> yea thats kinda ridiculous
[10:53] <crimsun> cpk1: the timestamps may differ according to your localtime
[10:53] <Zaire> I would love to run one of the Ubuntu family but my nvidia FX 5200 creates major instabilities
[10:53] <Zaire> don't know why cause I can run debian just fine
[10:54] <cpk1> looks like its UTC, not 100% sure though =P
[10:55] <gupta> Zaire: have you tried proxomitron ? It works great with wine
[10:56] <Zaire> nopes dunno if its as good as tor though
[10:56] <gupta> no its a replacement for privoxy
[10:57] <Zaire> does anyone know how to find out what kind of chipset your running, my manual doesn't appear to say
[10:57] <Zaire> I have a Foxconn mobo
[10:57] <grothesk> Zaire, try 'lspci'
[10:58] <grothesk> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN400/PM880 Host Bridge
[10:58] <grothesk> That is my chipset.
[10:59] <Zaire> advanced microdevices I think is what mine is
[10:59] <Zaire> what else hardware wise would ubuntu be incompatible with?
[11:00] <crimsun> Ubuntu can't run on a 1948 toaster.
[11:00] <[Nige] > is anyone using an ati card with kde and dual monitors properly?
[11:01] <Lynoure> Zaire: you can try ubuntu livecd to get some kind of idea how compatible it with your hardware. It's great for that
[11:01] <ArmedGeek> ati cart != proper
[11:01] <ArmedGeek> *card
[11:01] <[Nige] > ArmedGeek, pardon?
[11:02] <Lynoure> ArmedGeek: what would be proper? At least Radeon X600 worked easily and well :)
[11:02] <Zaire> I have a Sempron 3100+  64Bit western digital 160 gig HD Nvidia FX5200 128 meg DDR foxcon mainboard and an LG 16x cd burner oh yea and my ram is an Azen 512 chip and a samsung 256
[11:02] <ArmedGeek>  nvidia
[11:02] <[Nige] > Lynoure, when you login do you have to type xrandr -s XX
[11:03] <Lynoure> [Nige] : No, but I don't have dual monitors, fyi. Just a lappy.
[11:03] <[Nige] > cheers :)
[11:03] <[Nige] > dual monitors under linux is annoying or painfull with ati
[11:04] <Lynoure> ArmedGeek: they work beautifully out of the box nowadays?
[11:04] <rob> my kpanel just died, what is the actual name of it to get it back?
[11:04] <tsdgeos> kicker
[11:04] <ArmedGeek> Lynoure: i've been rrunning nvidia card with TwinView dual displays for quite some time.
[11:05] <rob> cheers tsdgeos
[11:05] <Zaire> and Ive tried Kubuntu LTS dapper, plain Kubuntu dapper, Xubuntu Dapper, Kubuntu dapper 64 bit, ubuntu 64 bit, Ubuntu i386, Kubuntu i386 they all crash pretty much consistantly and I mean total lock up and never at the same point
[11:06] <Lynoure> ArmedGeek: That's not what I asked. :) But good for you.
[11:07] <Zaire> what I would like to know is what did they do to the xorg when they changed it to the newer version from the one that debian uses
[11:08] <Zaire> cause I can run debian pretty much 100% stable
[11:08] <Lynoure> Zaire: in that case you should be able to run Ubuntu just fine
[11:08] <Zaire> thats what I don't get it should but it won't :S
[11:10] <Zaire> Ive tried every possible fix that has been done and some successfully and in the end it stops crashing for 2 days which is the longest I went without a crash then it starts back up again :S
[11:11] <Lynoure> Zaire: you probably don't remember what you got in the logs from the crash?
[11:12] <Zaire> nopes but I assume since I checked the bugzilla site for ubuntu for nvidia+crash that it was the issue cause a friend of mine got it to work with his system and he has an X800 XL
[11:12] <Zaire> dunno I seem to have bad luck with OS lol
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, so your blaming the nvidia card ?
[11:16] <|lostbyte|> the graphic cards..
[11:16] <Zaire> just looking at the possibilities and so far that seems the most likely since on the bugzilla site I found like 26 pages of results from my query
[11:18] <Zaire> I really don't know why it won't work but just know I want to really move away from windows and as quick as I can lol
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, what motherboard ? processor ? ram ? exta hardware ? ... just in case i come across something ..
[11:21] <Zaire> foxconn board, AMD sempron 3100 64bit proc, azen an samsung ram, western digital 160 gig HD
[11:21] <Zaire> and the nvidia
[11:22] <atul> hello can anyone help me with a small problem starting gvim?
[11:23] <atul> I get the following message everytime I launch gvim: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory
[11:24] <MidMark> hi
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, ok ! where does it crash with the Kubuntu 32bit version, again ?
[11:25] <jaro> do I have to configure additional monitors to be able to switch displays ???
[11:25] <Zaire> no particular point really just random and related to either adept, konverstaion, gaim, kopete, konquerer, or firefox just depends on which is feels like choosing I guess
[11:25] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, Could you remove one ram and see if the problem persist.
[11:25] <Zaire> sometimes as soon as I login
[11:26] <Zaire> could prob try that yea but gonna be a pissoff if its one of the chips lol
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> :)
[11:26] <MidMark> why to boot a program at startup I need to put the script into rc2,3,4,5?
[11:26] <Zaire> I only have 768 megs in my system lol
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, worth a try..
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, i am just cutting down hardware possiblities..
[11:27] <Zaire> then I guess Im gonna take the samsung out first since its the 256 chip
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> ok
[11:28] <MidMark> any idea?
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> jaro, yes, i belive so..
[11:28] <nico8481> hi
[11:28] <Zaire> dunno when Im gonna try re-installing Kubuntu but I know it will involve a full format
[11:29] <jaro> |lostbyte|:  hm, then i have a problem , because i have too configure the actual LCD Display too, but I dont know how
[11:29] <Zaire> make about the 35th Ive done this month lol
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, Thats so Fustrating..
[11:29] <Zaire> yea your not kidding lol but I suppose Ive gotten used to it lol
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, what type of script ?
[11:30] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: in general, I don't understand why some scripts have to starts from 4 dirs in rc
[11:31] <Zaire> well I guess I could try a full re-install now just may take me about 20 min or so lol
[11:31] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, Is'nt that the X initilization dir..
[11:31] <Zaire> no guarantee that I will be back on irc tonight if it doesn't work still
[11:32] <Zaire> since that was one of the point it like to crash at lol
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, SO your on that pc ? right now..
[11:32] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: what? I mean rc2.d 3,4 and 5
[11:32] <Zaire> yeps I only have one machine
[11:32] <Zaire> gonna build a new one once I have the money
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, So what are u running on ? windblows ?
[11:33] <Zaire> nopes lol I dumped that but for mandriva lol
[11:33] <Zaire> only one aside from redhat 9 that I can run stable...well that and debian
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> ok !
[11:34] <Zaire> is there anyway to swap xorg for xfree86?
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, SO you have a sepertate partition with ubuntu ?
[11:34] <Zaire> nopes
[11:35] <Zaire> would be nice if I did though
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, huh ! i dont think so..
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> But you can if you want to compile it..
[11:36] <dakine> speaking of partitions...i want to use partition magic to create linux parts for a dual boot with windblows...but seems linux users are against part mgc. how else can i partition my drive???
[11:36] <Zaire> why would I need to compile anything Ive run winblows and kubuntu side by side before
[11:36] <alucard> hi
[11:37] <alucard> who know how i can install and ati x800gt graphic driver with 3d acceleration?
[11:37] <|lostbyte|> you wanted the xfree86 which has been depricated..
[11:37] <sensei> dakine: There's hundreds of ways, but if you want to do it with partition magic.. just do i
[11:37] <gatekeeper> dakine: you didn't like my suggestion of GParted??
[11:38] <sensei> dakine: Some say that the partitions it creates are rubbish.. but you can still format them in the installation process
[11:38] <sensei> So just go with whatever rocks your boat
[11:38] <alucard> thanks
[11:38] <Zaire> well Xfree is the only xserver other then debians xorg that worked for me
[11:38] <dakine> how can i load a linuc prog unless i have linux??? it wont run under windows so i can then install linux
[11:38] <sensei> sure
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> dakine, with the linux installer its self. while you install kubuntu it will let you make those changes..
[11:40] <dakine> soou are sayin the install process will let me partition???
[11:40] <|lostbyte|> dakine, yes.
[11:40] <dakine> ok...whew tkz!
[11:41] <|lostbyte|> dakine, :P sure..
[11:43] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, what are you looking for ?
[11:44] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: for an explaination of the differences between rc2.d 3, 4 and 5
[11:44] <MidMark> why there are 4 different stages?
[11:44] <Zaire> you gonna be on tomorrow lostbyte?
[11:45] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, hopefully..
[11:45] <Muki-EX> NTFS + Folders with Japanese text = no go?
[11:45] <Muki-EX> I'm not getting any folders that start with Japanese text to show up in Konqueror or the Terminal.
[11:45] <Zaire> well i'll see about doing a multi partition and testing the ram theory tonight and hopefully be on tomorrow
[11:45] <claus> MidMark: http://www.iodynamics.com/education/runlevel.html
[11:46] <zorglu1> pff i wanted to *see* it :)
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, there you go ^
[11:47] <Zaire> well if I don't see ya tomorrow thanks for the help its appreciated but more then likely i'll be on tomorrow lol
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, Best of Luck !
[11:47] <Zaire> i'll need it laters
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, its better you make a seperate partiton to debug this..
[11:48] <Zaire> yeps always good lol
[11:48] <MidMark> claus: the problem I know this, but WHY when you have a script often it should be present in runlevels from 2 to 5 and not only 5
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, Cuase it is run in sequence..
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, If one is skiped your system will crash..
[11:50] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, 2 - 5 is for multi-user
[11:50] <Muki-EX> Anyone? ^_^
[11:50] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: retransmit :)
[11:51] <Muki-EX> I can't see any Japanese text in NTFS drives.
[11:51] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: yes, but why a script like for example cupsys should start from 2, and from 3 and from 4 and from 5?
[11:51] <Muki-EX> For folders that *start* with Japanese text, this makes them invisible.
[11:51] <MidMark> what it has to do in 4 stages that cannot do in one?
[11:51] <zorglu1> MidMark: to explain the rationnal behind some like the boot process of unix can not be done on irc in a reasonable time. like 10min :)
[11:52] <Muki-EX> zorglul : This is problematic when half of the folders in my music collection (3,000 some odd files) are like this =(
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, you can chage that, up to you.. but thats the system default..
[11:52] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: i dont like japanesse music :)
[11:52] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: kidding :)
[11:52] <Muki-EX> Heh, np, it's not for everyone =P
[11:52] <Muki-EX> If there was a way to remove the text in batch I'd do it.
[11:52] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: i think there is a charset option for mount, let me look
[11:53] <MidMark> zorglu1: that is a pitty
[11:53] <Muki-EX> Thanks, zorglul.
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, Its really complex.. you will notice that those files are linked and interlinked..
[11:53] <Muki-EX> On another note, whenever I mount a drive under sudo my default user can't access it. Is there a way to change permissions on a mounted folder?
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, they all redirect to one simple dir.. /etc/init.rc/
[11:54] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: yes but I cannot understand the rational behind this as said by zorglu1
[11:55] <|lostbyte|> MidMark,huh ! what did he say ?
[11:55] <zorglu1> MidMark: i said nothing, so yes you have trouble understanding it :)
[11:55] <zorglu1> MidMark: and many resource allow you to learn system design on the web or library or bookshop
[11:56] <zorglu1> mount -o codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8 /dev/sdb1 /mnt <- Muki-EX this is the base
[11:56] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: what is your usual mount command for you ntfs ?
[11:56] <Muki-EX> zorglu1 : Thanks =)
[11:56] <Muki-EX> I just put it in fstab
[11:56] <MidMark> zorglu1 you have understand that I want to know the meaning of this desing, I know you haven't explained nothing
[11:56] <Muki-EX> I don't mount manually ^^
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, he told you  http://www.iodynamics.com/education/runlevel.html
[11:57] <zorglu1> MidMark: so you have books, and webpage and experience to get :) and this is not my fault if it cant be done here on irc :)
[11:57] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: ok looking for codepage/iocharset for japanese
[11:58] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: else you can use krename, an apps to rename file in batch :)
[11:58] <MidMark> zorglu1: I haven't said that it's your fault... guys are you understanding what you want to understand :)
[11:58] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: no
[11:58] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: the link doesn't explain why it's like this
[11:58] <zorglu1> hehe
[11:59] <zorglu1> MidMark: man you wont get such explaination here
[11:59] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, sjis, jis7, eucjp
[11:59] <zorglu1> we are trying to tell you
[11:59] <MidMark> zorglu1: I have just understand, you are continue telling me, I'm not asking more than one :)
[12:00] <zorglu1> MidMark: cool :)
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, to go into any mode type init <mode_no>
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, Experiance each..
[12:00] <zorglu1> damn this non english charset is painfull :)
[12:00] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: do like me, forget your native language and use english :)
[12:01] <claus> MidMarK: that depends on your system, on debian I use generally runlevel 5, on ubuntu there is a default runlevel 2. Commonly it is enough to put your start scripts in the according runlevels. but if you reall want to relay on the runlevel for support purposes then you should use the common behavior. there are tools in the repositorys to do that for you, see man update-rc.d
[12:01] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: is the krename option ok for you ?
[12:01] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: you are still trying to explain me WHAT are runlevels, I don't know how to tell you that I need to know WHY it's like this... do you understand the difference between WHAT and WHY? Anyway it doesn't matter
[12:02] <Muki-EX> zorglul : English IS my native language. I have no control over the folder names, as iTunes makes them from CDDB. There's over 1000 files I'd have to rename it.
[12:02] <zorglu1> q. why init process is 0 ?
[12:02] <Muki-EX> *have to rename
[12:02] <paolo_> prova
[12:02] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: ok :)
[12:02] <paolo_> mi serve un piccolo aiuto per le icone di kubuntu
[12:02] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, Ok ! they are like that because, you have to have cups started even in runlevel 2 or 3 because if you deside to run it with out x its will still run..
[12:02] <Muki-EX> If I knew a way to batch-remove the text I'd do it ;)
[12:03] <paolo_> hello
[12:03] <zorglu1> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6753305216.html <- One-third of Japanese engineers willing switch to desktop Linux
[12:03] <Muki-EX> What's the flag in mount for ro ntfs drive?
[12:03] <paolo_> I have download a icon from kde-look
[12:03] <zorglu1> offtopic but found it on the way to japanese ntufp
[12:03] <paolo_> How I can install it???
[12:03] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: oleeeee :) millions of msgs to understand... probably my english is poor :)
[12:03] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: to show 'readonly'
[12:03] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: ok this is a good exaplaination
[12:04] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: thanx
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, If you noticed all your services are running even if your in Console mode with out X..
[12:04] <arso_> hey lostbye
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> arso_, Hi there, dude..
[12:04] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  wats up , i got a new problem
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> arso_, Really ! now cute.. :P
[12:04] <zorglu1> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o iocharset=iso8859-2
[12:05] <MidMark> paolo_: ciao, is it so simple, install and put into it the file you doenloaded
[12:05] <kroyer> hi
[12:05] <Muki-EX> Thanks =3
[12:05] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  :P, my torrents on ktorrent are SLOW i gotta 512connection which does 63max on windows,but here its 15 and below !!
[12:05] <zorglu1> MidMark: try adapting the above command with iocharset= to one of the sjis, jis7, eucjp
[12:06] <zorglu1> MidMark: the command is from http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en
[12:06] <zorglu1> MidMark: btw before trying to mount manually unmount the previous mount :)
[12:06] <Muki-EX> brb
[12:07] <MidMark> zorglu1: I'm not mounting at all :)
[12:07] <|lostbyte|> arso_, could be your ISP.. i know of isp's that slow down spesific ports.. or it could be a slow torrent..
[12:07] <dakine> aloha...
[12:07] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, what'nt that for Muki-EX  ?
[12:08] <jc-denton> where is the hibernate button under kubuntu?
[12:08] <zorglu1> lostbyte, he has a ntfs partition with japanese char in it and would like to see them
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, under the sleep button !
[12:08] <zorglu1> and i never used the whole charset thing :)
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, just joking :P
[12:09] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  but, it cant be my isp, since its on windows
[12:09] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  and its 4 torrents, all with good seeds and ratios.
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> iocharset=euc-jp or iocharset=utf8 sourld work fine..
[12:10] <zorglu1> MidMark: ^ for you :)
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> arso_, ktorrent on windows ?
[12:10] <zorglu1> arso_: i smell nat :)
[12:10] <zorglu1> arso_: have you a port forwarding
[12:11] <jc-denton> also if i press the power button the system shuts down immediately
[12:11] <MidMark> zorglu1: I'm not mounting :))
[12:11] <zorglu1> for once i got something in my area of expertise
[12:11] <jc-denton> and does not show such a dialog as under gnome
[12:11] <zorglu1> MidMark: what do you mean ? not seeing file on a not mounted partition is normal :)
[12:12] <MidMark> zorglu1: are you missunderstanding people, I have asked only for runlevels :)
[12:12] <zorglu1> ah sorry
[12:12] <Cavallo> how could I change panel look ?
[12:12] <zorglu1> i was confused with Muki-EX
[12:12] <MidMark> Cavallo: system settings -> panels
[12:13] <zorglu1> Muki-EX: my previous message to MidMark, have you read them ?
[12:13] <MidMark> Cavallo: or aspect
[12:13] <arso_> zorglu1:  yes,port forwarde
[12:13] <arso_> zorglu1:  just not sure if i did it right
[12:13] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  utorrent on windows, ktorrent on linux
[12:13] <zorglu1> arso_: from your description, the port forwarding it no good
[12:14] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, Didt find a use for it.. but here http://www.suspend2.net/
[12:14] <Cavallo> MidMark: aspect ?
[12:14] <zorglu1> arso_: azureus allows you to test the port forwarding, i dunno for ktorrent
[12:14] <zorglu1> arso_: well we can do a little test. what is the 'public port' of your port forwarding ?
[12:15] <MidMark> Cavallo: don't know english translation, check the first two icons in system settings
[12:15] <arso_> zorglu1:  uumm ? :P meaning
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> arso_, there is also an online test --> http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl
[12:15] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  checking it out
[12:15] <jc-denton> no i mean
[12:16] <jc-denton> under ubuntu i can just click on suspend
[12:16] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  " hash id of the torrent"?
[12:16] <jc-denton> err hibernate
[12:16] <jc-denton> i installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:16] <jc-denton> and there is no such thing
[12:16] <jc-denton> also i have the problem that kdm is not loaeded automatically
[12:16] <jc-denton> i did dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:16] <jc-denton> and choosed kdm
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> arso_, yes ! the weird no you have with torrents..
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> paste it there..
[12:16] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  umm where can i get it from an active torrent on ktorrent please
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> something like.. 76S8DF7A68DF8A7SD68FF
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> example ^
[12:17] <zorglu1> arso_: when you did the port forwarding you re ssupposed to have a public and local port
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> arso_, should be on the line where you see yout download list..
[12:17] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok i am there,
[12:18] <arso_> zorglu1:  is there any tool that configures port forwarding automatically
[12:18] <zorglu1> arso_: nope.
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> arso_, sorry, got mixed up with some other client.. are you on ktorrent now ?
[12:18] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  yes, ktorrent
[12:18] <zorglu1> arso_: wait you said it was ok on window ?
[12:18] <arso_> zorglu1:  ya, my speeds were fine
[12:19] <|lostbyte|> brb 5 mins
[12:19] <zorglu1> arso_: ok so my diagnostic is (i) your port forwarding isnt working (ii) window did a upnp automatically
[12:19] <zorglu1> arso_: you may try to install azureus, it has upnp and port forwarding checker
[12:19] <RawSewage> ok, how do you fix the problem where it says another instance of Adept is running
[12:20] <arso_> zorglu1:  but isnt azureus  a resource leech and stufF?i only have 1gb ram
[12:20] <zorglu1> arso_: azureus requires more resource than ktorrent, but run without issue on 1gb ram
[12:20] <zorglu1> if anything it will help you debug your issue
[12:21] <arso_> zorglu1:  u sure it wont slow everything up
[12:21] <arso_> zorglu1:  so it has a linux kubuntu version?
[12:21] <zorglu1> take the linux version, it run on any distribution
[12:21] <zorglu1> RawSewage: there is a lock file somewhere
[12:22] <zorglu1> RawSewage: or maybe there is a problem with the database
[12:22] <jc-denton> soo do i have to suspend my box in the cli or is there a chance that i can press on the powerbutton or something?
[12:22] <zorglu1> RawSewage: try a 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:22] <billdha> Hello,i run Kasbar and then i turn it off ,but now on panel theres no application show,how to fix this problem
[12:23] <RawSewage> zorglu1, thx, didnt work.  I'll try sudo top
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> arso_, no !
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> dont ktorrent is the best...
[12:24] <zorglu1> no :)
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, what me to prove it ?
[12:25] <zorglu1> hehe go ahead :)
[12:25] <omeow> ktorrent is hardly the best (for me)
[12:25] <zorglu1> but dont forget it is unprovable by definition :)
[12:25] <zorglu1> as 'best' is a very fuzzy criteria
[12:25] <omeow> Exactly.
[12:26] <omeow> I do agree that the UI looks great, but internally it seems to be missing things.
[12:26] <omeow> It takes ages for transfers to start, even when the correct ports are forwarded.
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> arso_, are you there ?
[12:26] <omeow> Torrent on windows is my favorite.
[12:27] <omeow> Hopefully ktorrent can use that as its example.
[12:27] <zorglu1> omeow: offtopic, but why do you like utorrent ?
[12:27] <zorglu1> omeow: im a p2p dev and want to know what people want :)
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, You could be right, but could you name the advance feature of azeurus ?
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> any*
[12:28] <omeow> zorglu1: That's easy to answer.
[12:29] <zorglu1> lostbyte, well i wont enter in any war like that :) but it is a direct part of my full day job to know that :)
[12:29] <omeow> I like Torrent (which I switched to from azureus) because it was so much faster thatn azureus, it was more minimal, and provided the basic things I need in a torrent client.
[12:29] <zorglu1> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ <- can provide info on azureus
[12:29] <omeow> - Like I said before, it's much much faster and smaller
[12:29] <zorglu1> omeow: faster as in 'using less CPU' or 'downloading faster' ?
[12:29] <omeow> In size
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, nice..
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, what part you work under ?
[12:30] <omeow> downloading speed is irrelevant
[12:30] <omeow> It was just smaller in size and faster as in using less CPU power.
[12:30] <omeow> - I can control the speed of individual torrents and the global speed
[12:31] <zorglu1> omeow: ok so you need 'basic feature and using resource in a reasonable manner, so you can forget it is running in background' :)
[12:31] <omeow> - I can select which files I want to download
[12:31] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  so sorrry
[12:31] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  was away a bit
[12:31] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  u were saying
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> arso_, ok ! your on ktorret ?
[12:31] <zorglu1> lostbyte, i do p2p , i dont work on azureus itself, but yes i do know the bt protocol :) and azureus is by far the most advanced of all implementation
[12:32] <omeow> also the slowest, don't forget to mention that. =P
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> ok !
[12:32] <omeow> At least, back when I was using that, startup time was long and it took long for transfers to start.
[12:33] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, whats that feature called where u can do file selection ?
[12:33] <zorglu1> the 'allow to forget it is running in background' is real important :)
[12:33] <omeow> Torrent starts in a sec and transfers start quite fast too, I guess it mostly depends on the tracker though.
[12:33] <zorglu1> lostbyte ?
[12:34] <zorglu1> i dont understand the question
[12:34] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, the chunks you want to download from a torrent and not the whole torrent itself.
[12:34] <RawSewage> KTorrent does that
[12:34] <RawSewage> it asks you which files you want to download
[12:34] <RawSewage> for example, if it's a torrrent with 10 shows
[12:34] <RawSewage> you click which ones you want to download
[12:34] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, yeha ! i know.. but whats that called ?
[12:34] <zorglu1> lostbyte yep you can choose the file you want to download within the torretn
[12:35] <zorglu1> oh the name of this particular feature
[12:35] <zorglu1> i dunno
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> yup !
[12:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  yes, on utorrent
[12:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  umm how do i dowload azureus
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> arso_, yoru having problem on linux right ?
[12:35] <RawSewage> what do I install so I can compile
[12:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  thru adeot?
[12:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  no linux is fine
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, build-essential.
[12:36] <RawSewage> ty
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> arso_, your having a windows problem ?
[12:37] <omeow> |lostbyte|: I assume it's called file selection? :)
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> omeow, are you sure, cause thats what i call it..
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> :P
[12:37] <jc-denton> aarrrgh
[12:37] <omeow> Why would it be wrong?
[12:38] <jc-denton> i want a button now where i can click on it and then it hibernates
[12:38] <jc-denton> but i cannot find that
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> omeow, maybe your right..
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> tx
[12:38] <crooger> hi everyone :-)
[12:38] <arso_> bo
[12:39] <omeow> Yes, my right.
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, on your keyboard ?
[12:39] <crooger> anyone knowns how to install .kth file ? (theme?)
[12:41] <|lostbyte|> crooger, kcmshell kthememanager
[12:41] <|lostbyte|> in console, or run ^
[12:42] <jc-denton> |lostbyte|: it would be cool if i get a dialog when pressing the powerbutton (smiliar to the gnome dekstop)
[12:42] <jc-denton> but a button on the desktop would also be enoug
[12:42] <jc-denton> enough
[12:43] <crooger> thx |lostbyte|
[12:44] <sensei> jc-denton: Can't you just edit /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn ?
[12:45] <sensei> And followed by /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[12:45] <jc-denton> so that it hibernates when pressing the pwerbutton?
[12:45] <sensei> Yeah
[12:45] <RawSewage> whats that klipboard app called
[12:45] <zorglu1> oh i will look this one
[12:45] <jc-denton> humm
[12:45] <jc-denton> a dialog would be nice
[12:46] <zorglu1> my computer doesnt even shutdown when i press powerbutton, it just stop the alim :)
[12:46] <sensei> Get xdialog and hack the script ;)
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, klipper
[12:46] <RawSewage> thx
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> sensei, loooks like hibernation / suspend is kernel dependent..
[12:46] <jc-denton> # Otherwise, if KDE is found, try to ask it to logout.
[12:46] <jc-denton> # If KDE is not found, just shutdown now.
[12:46] <jc-denton> ah
[12:46] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Of course it is
[12:47] <jc-denton> it does not find kde here
[12:47] <sensei> It is possible to do in userland though, with suspend2
[12:47] <jc-denton> otherwise it would display the logout dialog
[12:47] <jc-denton> humm
[12:47] <jc-denton> my (k)ubuntu is broken :(
[12:47] <|lostbyte|> sensei, thats what i told him..
[12:48] <sensei> jc-denton: Remove the checking altogether ;) Just assume it's there
[12:48] <sensei> But that's just for asking it to logout, you don't even want that when hibernating
[12:49] <|lostbyte|> brb 10mins
[12:49] <jc-denton> no i want the dialog first
[12:49] <jc-denton> probably i also want to do something else
[12:49] <sensei> jc-denton: Yeah, so get xdialog and add a line or two to the script
[12:49] <jc-denton> and it's annoying if you press it acientally
[12:49] <jc-denton> but it should work
[12:49] <jc-denton> i think i'll have to debug this
[12:50] <sensei> What's not working?
[12:51] <jc-denton> it does not recognize kde
[12:51] <sensei> It's not logging out you mean?
[12:54] <arso_> the funny thing is, my upload is going full speed !:S
[12:54] <Howitzer> Hi, i have a problem with the KDE network settings
[12:55] <arso_> doesnt this group therapy rock1
[12:55] <raziel_> hello
[12:55] <Howitzer> i can ONLY connect to the internet when using 'iwconfig ath0 key open -key-' then 'iwconfig ath0 essid -essid_name-' and then doing 'dhclient ath0'
[12:55] <Howitzer> that's the only way
[12:56] <Howitzer> as soon as i use DHCP in the KDE networking stuff, i recieve 'Network Unreachable' when pinging my gateway
[12:56] <raziel_> can someone help me to install quake 2?
[12:57] <Howitzer> raziel_: i think there is a Loki Installer for it
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> raziel_, works fine for me.. in wine..
[12:58] <RawSewage> After I build /   make a program, and it installs to usr/local
[12:58] <RawSewage> can I delete the original folder
[12:59] <war95> Anyone here do any benchmarking with SW RAID5 vs. chunk size in a performance analysis?
[12:59] <Howitzer> does the installer run with wine |lostbyte| ?
[12:59] <RawSewage> doh, I shouldve checked adept
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, its best to keep the source and do make uninstall from it.
[12:59] <raziel_> i downloaded 2 packets with adept
[12:59] <RawSewage> ok thx
[12:59] <RawSewage> I bet it's in Adept
[12:59] <RawSewage> Im an idiot
[12:59] <raziel_> so I don't need them?
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, yes.. but i installed quake3
[01:00] <Howitzer> try running the installer with Wine then
[01:00] <Howitzer> but can't noone help with my problem? :(
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, i was talking about a program you installed from source..not sr.deb
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> src*
[01:00] <RawSewage> yep, there it is
[01:01] <RawSewage> I know
[01:01] <RawSewage> I guess I'll do make uninstall then
[01:01] <RawSewage> and reinstall with Adept
[01:01] <RawSewage> it's still building...
[01:01] <Howitzer> i thought of a possible solution but have no idea how to implement it... I made a bash script which does the iwconfig ath0 stuff and the dhclient ath0 stuff., I'd like to use that instead of the KDE networking tool
[01:02] <dna_> Howitzer: are you using wireless assistent or the network settings in system settings? I had strange problems with wireless assistent, not sure why it is included in kubuntu
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> sensei, suspend2 need to be compiled into the kernel..
[01:02] <Howitzer> dna_: network settings
[01:02] <Howitzer> is wireless assistant in kcontrol?
[01:03] <dna_> no, its the last item in k-menu->internet
[01:03] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:03] <Howitzer> i'm going to try it
[01:03] <Howitzer> maybe it works :)
[01:03] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, i dont think so..
[01:04] <jc-denton> humm the script works, sry
[01:04] <jc-denton> i did not read the command exactly
[01:04] <jc-denton> but why shall it logout immediately
[01:04] <Howitzer> but i find it weird that i can get everything with dhclient while the dhcp function in network settings doesn't work :/
[01:04] <jc-denton> and not first display a dialog as ubuntu-desktop does?
[01:04] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Yes?
[01:04] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, it works ?
[01:05] <jc-denton> well if 'logout' == logout and shutdown
[01:05] <dna_> for me wireless assistent found my ap, I typed in my key but it did not connect to the ap properly and did not get a dhcp lease
[01:05] <sensei> jc-denton: And there's where xdialog comes into play :)
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> sensei, suspend2 need to be compiled into the kernel..
[01:05] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Yes?
[01:06] <raziel_>     /who freenode/staff/*
[01:06] <jc-denton> humm
[01:06] <dna_> Howitzer: tried rebooting after you typed in the correct key in network settings? Also check upper/lower case characters in essid
[01:06] <jc-denton> ok let me ask some more question
[01:06] <|lostbyte|> sensei, also... included since 2.5.18 in the main development kernel tree
[01:07] <jc-denton> is it possible to get a hibernate button in the logout dialog (where konqui sleeps)
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, ^^ for you also..
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, i fear its not supported..
[01:07] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Where are you getting? :)
[01:07] <jc-denton> and how can i open that dialog from the cli with dcop?
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> sensei, http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.3
[01:07] <jc-denton> not supported?
[01:07] <jc-denton> hibernate works under ubuntu
[01:07] <jc-denton> kubuntu just does not seem to have a gui integration
[01:08] <raziel_> nobody instaled quake 2 using the 2 packets into Adept?
[01:08] <sensei> |lostbyte|: What does this has to do with me?
[01:08] <sagara> yes
[01:08] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, i dont know if the kernel is any diff for both, but the path shoud be included..
[01:09] <Howitzer> wlanassistant does it for me
[01:09] <Howitzer> just had to select shared key and non-ascii
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> patch*
[01:09] <Howitzer> will it do this every time i log in?
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> sensei, you were telling me that suspend2 is done on userland..
[01:09] <jc-denton> no the kernel is the same of course
[01:10] <sensei> |lostbyte|: No, I'm saying that what he wants can be done in userland
[01:11] <|lostbyte|> but not with suspend2..
[01:11] <sensei> Ffs.. yes
[01:11] <jc-denton> hibernate works here
[01:11] <jc-denton> all i want is a button for hibernate in the kde logout dialog
[01:11] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, your on ubuntu ?
[01:11] <jc-denton> ubuntu with kubuntu desktop
[01:12] <sensei> Of course a thing like suspension requires kernel involvement! 06:46:57 < sensei> |lostbyte|: Of course it is
[01:12] <jc-denton> and a way to open the logout dialog from the shell
[01:12] <sensei> I was saying it can be done in userland, setting it up so that the powerbutton suspends
[01:13] <jc-denton> humm
[01:13] <|lostbyte|> jc-denton, ok ! right click > create new > link to application.
[01:14] <|lostbyte|> sensei, ok !
[01:14] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:14] <Sansana> hi
[01:15] <Howitzer> how do i make the settings used by wlanassistant the default settings?
[01:15] <Howitzer> oh nvm
[01:15] <Howitzer> hehe
[01:16] <Howitzer> am i damn glad my internet works
[01:16] <Sansana> me too:D
[01:16] <Howitzer> oh
[01:16] <Howitzer> was just about to ask if anyone could say something to check if it really worked -_-
[01:16] <Sansana> didn't want to work until I used iwconfig
[01:16] <Howitzer> with me too!
[01:17] <Sansana> hehe, you're connected to server so looks like it works :)
[01:17] <Sansana> there's someting wrong with wl assistant I think >_>
[01:17] <Howitzer> but Sansana, i discoverd i can solve it by simply using hexadecimal for the WEP key
[01:17] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, wlassistant ?
[01:17] <Howitzer> and wlanassistant worked fine for me when i used shared key and unchecked the ASCII box
[01:18] <Howitzer> of
[01:18] <Sansana> I just had to configure my wlan via wlconfig instead of wl assistant
[01:18] <Howitzer> wlanassisant wlassistant, all the same :D
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, i think its a bug, i cant even specify a ascii key there..
[01:18] <Howitzer> but my wireless is called ath0 :/
[01:19] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:19] <Howitzer> i think it is bugged
[01:19] <Howitzer> started it up 6 times
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, you can even set it in /etc/network/interface the way i do it..
[01:19] <Howitzer> yes but i have no idea how to work with that file
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, man intrefaces
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, man wireless
[01:20] <Howitzer> they have a man page for wireless?
[01:20] <Howitzer> fuck
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, i usually dont trust gui for networking stuff..
[01:20] <Howitzer> and i discover that after a week
[01:20] <Estiquaaazi> why when i start ktorrent it crashes and give the error signal 6(SIGABRT)???
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> :)
[01:21] <Howitzer> i don't mind using a GUI, as long as i can check the configuration file
[01:21] <Sansana> |lostbyte| indeed, gui didn't want to make my net working and console did >.>
[01:21] <Howitzer> yeeeeeeeeeeeha
[01:21] <Howitzer> i'm thrilled now
[01:21] <|lostbyte|> :)
[01:22] <Howitzer> now i can finally install the nvidia drivers, tremulousand wesnoth
[01:22] <Howitzer> wooo
[01:22] <Sansana> :D
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> Estiquaaazi, run ktorrent --debug in console.
[01:22] <Howitzer> and i'm going to try konqueror as a webbrowser for a while
[01:22] <Howitzer> see if i like it
[01:22] <Sansana> Howitzer for nvidia drives i recommend easy ubuntu
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, you will..
[01:23] <Sansana> I miss my opera ;_;
[01:23] <Howitzer> what amazes me is that they have greasemonkey for konqueror :D
[01:23] <Howitzer> Sansana: why don't you install it then?
[01:24] <Sansana> well I'm a deviant, I really do not like having 2 or more web browsers ;p
[01:24] <Howitzer> tyh
[01:24] <Howitzer> rofl
[01:24] <Howitzer> i kind of hate that too, but when it's necessary..
[01:24] <Howitzer> does anybody know of a good rm to mpeg converter btw?
[01:25] <Sansana> I don't
[01:25] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, really ! link me..
[01:25] <Howitzer> huh?
[01:25] <dueyfinster> Howitzer: Sorry I don't know one
[01:25] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, mencoder can do it with the right options..
[01:25] <sensei> Couldn't mencoder do that ?
[01:25] <sensei> Yeah
[01:25] <Howitzer> oh
[01:25] <Sansana> hm... is there anything like amip for konversation and xmms? ( the now playing: thingy)
[01:25] <Howitzer> isn't that included with mplayer?
[01:26] <sensei> Yeah
[01:26] <Howitzer> my dad has this 150 page long printed manual for MPlayer
[01:26] <Howitzer> really amazes me how much functions a movie player can possibly have xD
[01:27] <Sansana> I'm really impressed with Krita, the interface is so much similar to photoshop:D
[01:27] <sensei> See it as a 'movie suit' rather than a movie player :)
[01:27] <Howitzer> btw, is adept kubuntu's synaptic?
[01:28] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, you have to install it seperatly.
[01:28] <Howitzer> synaptic?
[01:28] <Howitzer> or mencoder?
[01:29] <Howitzer> or adept?
[01:31] <san|bbl> cya :)
[01:32] <Howitzer> wooow adept isn't good :(
[01:32] <Howitzer> it confuses by forcing me to look at 3 things at the same time
[01:33] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, sudo apt-get install mencoder
[01:33] <Howitzer> okay
[01:33] <Howitzer> ty
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[01:40] <steveire> Where can I get info on regex?
[01:40] <zorglu1> google :)
[01:41] <steveire> hmmn
[01:41] <steveire> Do you know if it's possible to match aa, but not aaa
[01:41] <zorglu1> it is possible :)
[01:42] <zorglu1> aa[^a]
[01:42] <zorglu1> or something along this line
[01:43] <steveire> I've tried a few things. I'll just keep going at it.
[01:43] <Pupeno> Hello.
[01:43] <DocTomoe> I am in dire need for help with installing a finctional ndiswrapper in dapper. I installed ndiswrapper-*, and added the driver. I also did  a modprobe ndiswrapper - but I do not get an interface. Anyone in here ishing to give a helping hand?
[01:44] <vaka> no
[01:44] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, ndiswrapper -l
[01:44] <|lostbyte|> what does it say ?
[01:44] <Pupeno> It seems my ISP's DNS servers are crap, I've been having problems for days. I can download at >100MB/s once I get to connect, but I get many "Unknown host" errors. I was thinking about running a caching DNS in my own workstation. Would that help me ? if so, which dns server do you recommend (that is lightweight and easy to configure) ?
[01:45] <DocTomoe> |lostbyte|: bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> iwconfig
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> ?
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, ^
[01:46] <DocTomoe> |lostbyte|: oh, the wlan interface seems to be called eth1 for some reason O_O
[01:46] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, then it works..
[01:47] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:47] <Howitzer> konqueror isn't fully supported by GMail? Oo
[01:47] <DocTomoe> |lostbyte|: what package is that new KDE network manager in?
[01:47] <Howitzer> i get this HTML crippled page
[01:47] <zorglu1> Howitzer: modify the config of konqueror to claim it is a firefox
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> huh .. kwifimanager
[01:48] <DocTomoe> |lostbyte|: i mean that other one which is new in dapper ...
[01:49] <DocTomoe> kwifimanager is pretty basic
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, wlassistant ?
[01:49] <Howitzer> wooohoo
[01:49] <abattoir_> DocTomoe: the kernel brings w/ it a bcm43xx driver, that's why you get eth1
[01:50] <Howitzer> i can watch School Rumble
[01:50] <abattoir_> DocTomoe: but that doesnt work for me, i use ndiswrapper
[01:50] <abattoir_> DocTomoe: i disable that driver and then use ndiswrapper
[01:50] <abattoir_> DocTomoe: its a quick and dirty hack, but it works
[01:50] <DocTomoe> abattoir_: how do I disable that kernel driver?
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> aseigo: You've acctually got internet in Trysil? =)
[01:51] <aseigo> SkrotFFS: yep =)
[01:51] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, removing bcm43xx module
[01:52] <aseigo> SkrotFFS: it's the best country lodge i've stayed in yet
[01:52] <abattoir> DocTomoe: 'cd' to /lib/modules/<your kernel>/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> DocTomoe, put it in blacklist
[01:52] <SkrotFFS> aseigo: Yeah. Looks sweet on the pictures. :)
[01:53] <abattoir> DocTomoe: as root move the bcm43xx folder to /root
[01:53] <abattoir> DocTomoe: after that do a 'sudo depmod -a'
[01:55] <abattoir> DocTomoe: another thing i've had to do is add "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" and in the next line "auto wlan0" to /etc/network/interfaces
[01:55] <david_> is there anybody that could help me out with installing gaim? when i run the .package file says it cannot find 'GtkSpell Spell Checking Library' and fails
[01:56] <elden> download d latest gaim at their website and use alien
[01:56] <david_> okay, and is alien an application?
[01:56] <abattoir> DocTomoe: Restart your computer, if you setup ndiswrapper right, the module would have been loaded already
[01:57] <elden> umm no
[01:57] <elden> it converts rpms to deb
[01:57] <elden> that's what i usually do when i install gaim
[01:57] <gatekeeper> david_, why aren't you installing gaim from your pacakage manager?
[01:58] <BKaj> whaddya want gaim for ... got to windows if ya wanna chat on msn :)
[01:58] <david_> um... well i just downloaded the file that sounded right off the site. i'm kinda new to linux, so i'm learning :P
[01:58] <gatekeeper> david_, and yes you need to install alien from your package manager before you can use it
[01:59] <david_> okay, how can i do that?
[01:59] <elden> try sudo apt-get install alien
[01:59] <abattoir> david_: if you are running kubuntu, kopete must be installed already. It is also a multi-protocol messenger client...
[01:59] <Sansana> kopete <3
[01:59] <elden> he likes gaim more than kopete
[01:59] <gatekeeper> david_, apt-get install gaim much easier
[01:59] <abattoir> david_: unless ofcourse, you want *only* gaim :)
[02:00] <david_> well i've used gaim on windows before so that's my whole reasoning for wanting to use it here
[02:00] <david_> i'll try apt-get install gaim
[02:01] <gatekeeper> david_, it will be sudo apt-get install gaim
[02:01] <BKaj> I was just funnin' ya david_
[02:02] <david_> oh okay. and i know bkaj lol
[02:02] <decious> any one have issues mounting data dvd's greater than 4gig?
[02:02] <BKaj> I always think of gaim ppl the same as AOL users...the disneyland of the internet :)
[02:02] <david_> woohoo! it worked! thanks a lot guys, you rock :)
[02:02] <gatekeeper> BKaj, that sort of remark could be taken as hostile
[02:03] <gatekeeper> david_, :-)
[02:03] <BKaj> no hostile intent , just an opinion
[02:03] <BKaj> :)
[02:04] <gatekeeper> BKaj, appreciate that just be carefull of the perception :-)
[02:04] <BKaj> WHY?
[02:04] <cpk1> gaim is an irc client too
[02:04] <cpk1> among other things
[02:04] <BKaj> yeah iknow,Icouldn't get kopete topw ork for me , it was too arcane :)
[02:05] <BKaj> to work
[02:05] <david_> no hard feelings were taken here. good night guys, and thanks again for your help
[02:05] <BKaj> so I stuck with the old tried and trues like Konversation and xchat
[02:05] <gatekeeper> your welcome  :-)
[02:06] <zorglu1> i irc thru gaim
[02:07] <Sansana> konversation here, and I'm starting to like this program
[02:07] <BKaj> gaim or kopete?
[02:07] <decious> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1202068#post1202068
[02:07] <BKaj> yeah Sansana, i agree ...I like the interface and the easy  setup
[02:08] <Lynoure> irssi here :)
[02:08] <Sansana> But are here any colour themes?  I dont want to change every colour manually
[02:09] <Lynoure> But I'm ancient
[02:10] <BKaj> no gaim just kopete in dapper and it just doesn't work for me on irc ...I'm not the dullest knife the drawer but I can't seem to get kopete to connect on irc. :)
[02:11] <BKaj> Lynoure: ancient ? what's that mean...yer old nick , or are you just OLD like me ?
[02:11] <C_REATiVE_> re
[02:12] <Philip5> BKaj: you can install gaim if you really want it
[02:12] <Sansana> BKaj you know, I have similar problem but... I like to use another program for irc, than the one I use for icq and jabber
[02:13] <BKaj> jabber still around ? wow I haven't seen anyone mention it for yrs
[02:13] <Sansana> :D
[02:14] <Sansana> jabber is fine
[02:14] <BKaj> what jabber client do you use ?
[02:14] <Sansana> right now kopete
[02:15] <BKaj> is it easier to use for jabber than irc ?
[02:16] <Gentix> is it possible to convert my reiserfs3 partition to a reiserfs4 one?
[02:16] <Gentix> and is it already supported by the latest kernel??
[02:16] <BKaj> are you running suse Gentix?
[02:16] <Sansana> BKaj hm... jabber is similar to ICQ, it's hard to say whats easier or harder
[02:16] <Gentix> would I be on this channel if I were?? ;)
[02:17] <Gentix> BKaj: no I'm using kubuntu dapper drake ;)
[02:17] <Philip6> BKaj: and there is no problem using kopete with irc either... just did... :)
[02:17] <BKaj> we get all kinds here , ppl who want to learn about kubuntu but are using differnt distros
[02:18] <Gentix> BKaj: k, but no I just use kubuntu
[02:18] <BKaj> Philip6: hehe, i must be missing something then cuz I can't get kopete to connect in irc
[02:18] <Howitzer> just use Konversation?
[02:19] <BKaj> yup, I do :)
[02:19] <BKaj> it works fer me as the saying goes
[02:20] <Philip5> BKaj: go into settings/configure add new protcoll - irc setup you nick and then go to connection...
[02:20] <humbert> hello all
[02:20] <Philip5> BKaj: select freenode, edit and make new: irc.freenode.net
[02:20] <os2mac> OK just installed LTS on my Inspiron 8600 it detected my wlan card but when I go enable it I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or diretory....
[02:20] <humbert> how to list other channels ?
[02:21] <Philip5> BKaj: select that new server and press the "up key" so it's in top of the list
[02:21] <Philip5> done
[02:21] <humbert> new server that freenet ?
[02:21] <coachJ> need help big time
[02:22] <Lynoure> BKaj: This is my 15th year on irc... I'm 30, agewise
[02:22] <coachJ> i tried to change the way user login, now the screen is to big for the monitor, as you move the mouse off the screen the image shifts
[02:22] <coachJ> to a oart of the image that was offf screen
[02:23] <vaka> i don't want konqueror to open the files with a simple click... how can i change that?
[02:23] <Philip5> vaka: go into system settings and select mouse and change to dubble click
[02:24] <vaka> ty ;D
[02:24] <Philip5> np
[02:24] <coachJ> philip can you help me
[02:24] <Philip5> vaka: hade the same annoying feeling with it :)
[02:24] <BKaj> Lynoure: I'm old ...63 in a few weeks ...retired for 7 yrs been on IRC for all of them ...I got a pc when i retired and started to learn , then. I had used pc with application progs on the job but omly used the internet to email reports etc .
[02:25] <vaka> it's very annoying
[02:25] <os2mac> can anyone help with the Wlan thing?
[02:25] <Philip5> coachJ: not sure i got the problem right
[02:25] <vaka> bye and ty
[02:25] <coachJ> the desktop image is to big for the monitor
[02:26] <Sansana> os2mac I can maybe help
[02:26] <os2mac> OK just installed LTS on my Inspiron 8600 it detected my wlan card but when I go enable it I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or diretory....
[02:26] <coachJ> so when you move the mouse the image moves
[02:26] <os2mac> I can see and configure it in iwconfig
[02:26] <os2mac> but it won't enable in ifconfig and it won't do dhclient.
[02:27] <Lynoure> BKaj: I gave my mother a debian box when she retired... She hadn't really used computers before that so she was a perfect guinea pig for that. I update it for her, though. :)
[02:27] <Philip5> coachJ: have you default settings of your desktop resulotion? or have you installed some drivers for ati or nvidia?
[02:27] <Sansana> hm... i didn't use if config when I was configuring my wireless network
[02:27] <Philip5> coachJ: sounds like virtual desktop or something
[02:27] <coachJ> all was great unti; i tried to change the way user login
[02:28] <os2mac> Sansana I am asking the same question in #ubuntu as well.... just wanted to let you know.
[02:28] <coachJ> even the login screen icon is huge
[02:29] <BKaj> cool thing to do for your mom , Lynoure :)
[02:29] <Sansana> os2mac, ok :)
[02:30] <Sansana> os2mac and does network setting detect your card?
[02:30] <os2mac> network setting?
[02:30] <Sansana> system settings -> network settings
[02:30] <os2mac> yes... but shows it as disabled
[02:31] <Sansana> hm..
[02:31] <themouse> hi all, I downloaded the sources of freetype, edited the config file to enable the bytecode interpreter, ./configure, make, make install, but there don't seem to have any change, why is that?
[02:31] <Sansana> and what do you get when you activate it?
[02:31] <themouse> better rending of fonts
[02:32] <os2mac> it says enabling interface, highlights the disable interface button, disables the enable interface button and doesn't change the state of the nic.
[02:33] <DocTomoe> I am still having problems getting ndiswrapper to work with my kubuntu dapper fresh-from-start-install. I managed to get the non-working bcm-kernel-drivers out of memory, however, ndiswrapper doesn't seem to work either. Any helpful ideas?
[02:33] <gatekeeper> themouse, seem to be doing a lot of compiling from source?
[02:33] <Sansana> os2mac hm... that's weird, I think I can't help you :( sorry
[02:33] <chrisdarby> hey, just installed Kubuntu and i'm a bit of a linux n00b, can anyone help me install the correct drivers for my graphics card?
[02:34] <zorglu1> chrisdarby: lets try
[02:34] <themouse> I had only to change one line in config file and compile it
[02:34] <themouse> http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/kde.png
[02:34] <zorglu1> chrisdarby: what is your gfx card ?
[02:34] <gatekeeper> chrisdarby, did it not autodetect correctly?
[02:34] <chrisdarby> zorglu1: ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
[02:34] <themouse> here's how it will look after the change
[02:35] <chrisdarby> gatekeeper: No, the resolution is very low and the system settings pannel won't let me change it
[02:35] <zorglu1> chrisdarby: first stage, google 'xorg 9700 ati pro'
[02:35] <chrisdarby> Kubuntu has recognised it merely as "ati"
[02:36] <zorglu1> chrisdarby: first link is exactly what you want :)
[02:36] <chrisdarby> zorglu1: Thanks :) made my day :)
[02:37] <mateusz> hi
[02:39] <Sansana> hi mateusz
[02:39] <gatekeeper> zorglu1, ati doesn't seem to be very linux friendly
[02:40] <zorglu1> gatekeeper: heard some rumours about this. i dunno
[02:41] <gatekeeper> zorglu1, good percentage that come in here with troubles seem to use ati hmmm
[02:41] <Sansana> zorglu1 maybe this could help you http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[02:41] <zorglu1> Sansana: me ?
[02:41] <Lynoure> some ati cards are, others not
[02:42] <zorglu1> Sansana: why me ?
[02:42] <Sansana> yes, there's option to install good ati drivers
[02:42] <zorglu1> Sansana: ah ok, i was the one answering this question, not asking it :)
[02:42] <Sansana> aa
[02:42] <Sansana> lol
[02:42] <Sansana> sorry
[02:42] <Lynoure> X600 has so far been all good and open source to me :) But I literally spend a month looking for the perfect laptop
[02:42] <zorglu1> no problem :)
[02:45] <coachJ> phi;ip U still there
[02:46] <coachJ> Philip--fixed it the monitor settins were lost when I attempted to change the way users login.
[02:48] <jaro> I need help configuring my LCD-Monitor
[02:48] <Philip5> coachJ: aha, good
[02:48] <Philip5> coachJ: that you could fix it i mean... :)
[02:49] <coachJ> yeah but sounds like a bug
[02:49] <jaro> I dont know what monitor I have got
[02:50] <Philip5> jaro: doesn't you have a name somewhere on it?
[02:52] <jaro> well as far as I know.. I have got an Acer Aspire 1350 Laptop and and an 15'' LCD screen
[02:52] <jaro> I also have a Philips 107E Monitor next to it, and plugged in
[02:53] <jaro> but I can only run one of them at a time.. and I cant autodetect the LCD-Screen, because the screen goes black then
[02:53] <jaro> and the other monitor will only be detected when it is plugged in at reboot time
[02:55] <jaro> maybe you can help me googleing it out
[02:58] <Philip5> jaro: what happens if you use generic settings for your resolution?
[02:58] <jaro> hm it works.. but I still get errors when switching for console ...
[02:58] <jaro> the screens turns black then
[02:58] <jaro> it switches off.. kinda
[02:59] <jaro> and it wont get back until another reboot
[02:59] <jaro> and I dont know how to add this additional monitor
[02:59] <jaro> i thought I would need to have the LCD configured
[02:59] <jaro> when I try to autodetect the screen, it goes off
[03:00] <Philip5> jaro: not sure of other drivers but i use nvidia and there i can setup and force different settings to different cards or displays
[03:00] <jaro> hm I have a S3 Via Unichrome Graphic card :(
[03:00] <jaro> which sucks
[03:00] <jaro> so I use via driver
[03:00] <jaro> which finally has 3D Support
[03:01] <jaro> but that nasty habit of turning that screen black, but that doesnt happen with the Philips Monitor
[03:02] <humbert> why bitorrent is not free anymore ?
[03:02] <arso_> hey guys
[03:02] <arso_> i installed azureus
[03:02] <humbert> on bitorrent.com i must login
[03:02] <arso_> since it tests nat and shit
[03:02] <humbert> ?????
[03:02] <arso_> when testing tcp listening port
[03:02] <arso_> i get NAT error
[03:03] <__osh__> humbert: bittorrent is a protocol, its
[03:03] <Philip5> humbert: bittorrent as a protocol and it's still free... and you refer to a site
[03:03] <__osh__> humbert: still free. but bittorrent.com has some idea to sell vids. hence the login. if i'm not misstaken.
[03:03] <arso_> guys,my problem please
[03:04] <Philip5> arso_: that's because you are behind a router or something
[03:04] <__osh__> arso_: what specifically is your problem then? nat error?
[03:04] <arso_> yes
[03:04] <arso_> i am behinda router
[03:04] <arso_> and i configured it
[03:05] <humbert> somebody french there ?
[03:05] <arso_> port by pass thing
[03:05] <humbert> using free.fr?
[03:05] <arso_> with the port iam using on azureus
[03:05] <Philip5> arso_: then you need port forward or a trigger for the port
[03:05] <humbert> problems with freebox v5
[03:05] <arso_> Philip5:  how do i do that
[03:06] <Philip5> arso_: depends on which router you have... check it's docs
[03:06] <arso_> siemens speedstream 6520
[03:06] <arso_> err? check for wat
[03:06] <Philip5> check for port forward or port triggers
[03:07] <arso_> k
[03:08] <arso_> wats      a port trigger
[03:10] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Hey Guys
[03:10] <arso_> hey
[03:10] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> How would I use a XML feed for a podcast?
[03:11] <m_tadeu> hi there
[03:11] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> like the ones at ubuntuos.com?
[03:11] <m_tadeu> which program do you recomend to control the forewall?
[03:11] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: you can feed the url to amarok
[03:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok
[03:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> thanks fo the help
[03:12] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: amarok->Left Playlists Tab->Add->Podcast
[03:13] <r0xz> arso: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Bell/Speedstream6520/Azureus.htm
[03:14] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Did any of you use Shipit?
[03:14] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> to get CDs?
[03:14] <Howitzer> yes
[03:15] <Howitzer> i wouldn't recommend them actually
[03:15] <coachJ> why
[03:15] <coachJ> howitzer--why?
[03:16] <marcreichelt> hiho
[03:16] <marcreichelt> does anybody here have Kubuntu 5.10?
[03:16] <BKaj> r0xz: i use a speedstream 6300 which is much the same
[03:17] <marcreichelt> oh
[03:17] <marcreichelt> brb
[03:17] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: yes! I got 10 and didnt have even one after 2 days! :)
[03:17] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> cool
[03:18] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: the idea of a live CD and an installer intrigues people from the 'windows world' ;)
[03:18] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: in a single CD, i mean.
[03:18] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya I know
[03:18] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lots of my friends loved it
[03:19] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> They could try it then install it right there!!!!
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> The live cd is not fast enough to use for anything useful for me (AMD 2600, 1gb ram) the xubuntu one is though
[03:20] <arso_> hey guys
[03:20] <arso_> i am running azureues n all
[03:20] <Howitzer> h3sp4wn: it isn't for anyone, the cd reading speed is the biggest bottleneck
[03:20] <arso_> but its not there
[03:20] <arso_> in k menu
[03:20] <arso_> i have to go to command and write azureues to open it  wtf
[03:21] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok I got a problem with the podcasts
[03:21] <BKaj> yeah abattoir, I was gonna install from live cd but my partitions were iffy so by the time Ihad them set up properly the dvd was DL'd and ready to burn so I installed rom that , NP
[03:22] <fek> hi
[03:22] <BKaj> from
[03:22] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> When I click to play one it says "Access denied for the URL:" then gives the URL
[03:22] <fek> is it safe to do a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[03:22] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> how can I fix it?
[03:22] <fek> i had made just a backup for worst case ;)
[03:22] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: what is the url?
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> Howitzer: I don't understand why with a gb of ram it cannot just load the cd into a ramdisk
[03:22] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml
[03:22] <sensei> fek: I've heard both success- and failure stories
[03:22] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> not that
[03:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> sorry
[03:23] <fek> sensei: ok, so let's try
[03:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/media_mp3/ep7-070206-ubuntuos.mp3
[03:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> that is it
[03:23] <sensei> fek: Yeah, with a backup at hand, there's not much to lose, is it :)
[03:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I am using amaroK
[03:23] <sensei> Except time
[03:23] <fek> sensei: yep
[03:24] <arso_> any azureus people here
[03:24] <Philip5> arso_: how did you install it?
[03:24] <arso_> i went to open torrent, filled all details but OK is still greyed out
[03:24] <marcreichelt> does anybody here have Kubuntu 5.10 yet?
[03:24] <fek> let's rock
[03:24] <fek> sensei: i report how it worked
[03:24] <BKaj> yet ?
[03:24] <arso_> Philip5:  thru adept,its not appearing on K menu, accessed thro commands
[03:25] <arso_> Philip5:  anyways, i am openinga torrent, filled alldetails. but OK is greyed out
[03:25] <marcreichelt> because I need to now how to configure Konqueror to show the content of zip-, tar.gz- and tar-bz2 files instead of opening them with Ark
[03:25] <BKaj> marcreichelt: the latest is 6.06
[03:25] <marcreichelt> I know
[03:25] <marcreichelt> I have that one
[03:25] <Philip5> aha, i installed it manually so i setup my icons manually too
[03:25] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: I think the 'Add Playlist' option is for the .xml feed
[03:25] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I did
[03:26] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I added that it comes up with a list of episodes so I click one and I get that error
[03:26] <decious> anyone know how to enable the feature when you double click on the title bar of a window it will make only the title bar visable?
[03:26] <marcreichelt> BKaj: that's why I'm asking
[03:27] <arso_> Philip5:  .........>?
[03:27] <marcreichelt> in 5.10 konqueror opened nearly all (apart from rar) files in its main window
[03:27] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: the latest one works for me,ep7.......
[03:27] <marcreichelt> 6.06 opens them with Ark by default
[03:27] <marcreichelt> and I do not like that
[03:27] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> It won't for me
[03:28] <Philip5> arso_: not sure what you refer to. the ok in the setup wizard?
[03:28] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: what is the exact error?
[03:28] <BKaj> sorry marcreichelt, I haven't been able to figure out how to install from tar.gz files myself ...extract NP, but install has me beat
[03:28] <arso_> Philip5:  nono, already isntalled and running, when adding a new torrnt to download
[03:28] <marcreichelt> anyone here with Kubuntu 5.10?
[03:29] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> this is whatit says
[03:29] <Hobbsee> marcreichelt: some people, yeah, what's the issue?
[03:29] <Philip5> arso_: select your torrent by add files and then set the location where to save it and then hit ok
[03:29] <m_tadeu> why does my kicker losing all settings each time I log in?
[03:29] <marcreichelt> I just want to know how your configuration looks like:
[03:30] <marcreichelt> Konqueror -> Preferences -> file extensions -> application/x-zip
[03:30] <marcreichelt> (I know that the english names are wrong, but I'm using the German KDE version)
[03:30] <BKaj> wb david__
[03:31] <abattoir> marcreichelt: i think in the 'Embedding' tab you should enable 'Show file in embedded viewer'
[03:31] <arso_> Philip5:  i do all that, but OK is greyed out
[03:31] <abattoir> marcreichelt: or whatever you have in german ;)
[03:32] <david__> thanks bkaj. i have one quick question. i wanted to check what file system my hard drive is using. is there a terminal command for that?
[03:32] <marcreichelt> yes
[03:32] <marcreichelt> I did
[03:32] <Philip5> arso_: if so it's really strange as that is how you do it
[03:32] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17002
[03:32] <marcreichelt> but Konqueror does still show the "Open file with" dialog
[03:32] <arso_> ok i made it work
[03:32] <arso_> just restarted the prog and it worked
[03:32] <arso_> btw when its in tray the icon is white, no icon
[03:32] <arso_> and its not in kmenu, how do i make it go to kmenu > internet
[03:34] <Philip5> arso_: right click on the "K" for the start menu and select menu editor
[03:34] <Philip5> arso_: and then add it manually
[03:34] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> abattoir, do you think you can help me?
[03:34] <arso_> Philip5:  how do i find it
[03:35] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: what about the other episodes? same error?
[03:35] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Yup same thing
[03:35] <marcreichelt> abattoir: do you have 5.10?
[03:35] <Philip5> arso_: in a shell type: whereis azureus
[03:36] <abattoir> marcreichelt: no 6.06 , but zip:/ ioslave works for me
[03:36] <marcreichelt> yes
[03:36] <marcreichelt> for me too
[03:36] <david__> when people say "sudo fdisk -l" is that a lower case L, a !, or a |?
[03:36] <marcreichelt> but I want konqueror automatically to open ZIP-files with zip:/ as protocol
[03:37] <sensei> david__: L
[03:37] <david__> okay, thank you
[03:37] <sensei> np
[03:37] <abattoir> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: For me amarok seems to play ogg files, not mp3s
[03:38] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I have tried the ogg files and I get the same error
[03:38] <marcreichelt> abattoir: do you have enabled the multiverse repository?
[03:38] <sensei> Quicke, anyone know if it's possible to set it up so that one can click URLs in konsole, and have them opened in konqueror?
[03:38] <sensei> It's a kind of bad subject to google for actually
[03:38] <marcreichelt> and do you have installed libxine_extracodecs?
[03:39] <BKaj> what is zip:/ ioslave, abattoir ?
[03:40] <marcreichelt> BKaj: do you have a zip file?
[03:40] <BKaj> not in dapper
[03:40] <BKaj> i have a tar.gz
[03:40] <marcreichelt> ok
[03:40] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Are there any other programs I can use for podcasts, other then amaroK?
[03:40] <marcreichelt> mom
[03:40] <marcreichelt> that's nearly the same
[03:41] <sensei> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: xmms
[03:41] <|lostbyte|> sensei, nope ! but there is another way..
[03:41] <sensei> I think (assuming a 'podcast' is the same as a plain old webcast
[03:41] <imachine_> hi
[03:41] <BKaj> yeah , it's the linux equivalent of zip, but I can never find the install file :(
[03:42] <imachine_> i got some questions... why does my wifi card come up as wlan0 and wifi0 ?
[03:42] <imachine_> two interfaces in one?
[03:42] <abattoir_> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: i still dont know how from the same feed you get mp3, and i, ogg...
[03:42] <sensei> Where's the feed, abattoir_, LiNuX_LoVeR_17 ?
[03:42] <imachine_> plus there is some errors in dmesg about wifi0
[03:42] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> no there are 2 feeds one OGG and the other MP3
[03:42] <imachine_> any suggestions?
[03:42] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> both don't work and give me the same error
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> here is the ogg one
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml
[03:43] <marcreichelt> BKaj: if you have /home/<username>/example.tar.gz, type in tar:/home/<username>/example.tar.gz in konqueror
[03:43] <BKaj> i have yet to figure out how to handle tar.gz files so  I can get them to install and work for me :(
[03:43] <abattoir_> [Sun Jul 2 2006]  [18:52:36]  <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml
[03:43] <|lostbyte|> LiNuX_LoVeR_17, could you paste the podcast link ?
[03:43] <sensei> ta
[03:43] <abattoir_> BKaj: you can extract them w/ ark...
[03:44] <abattoir_> BKaj: or 'tar -xzf <name_of_file>'
[03:44] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I did paste it
[03:44] <Howitzer> how do i set firefox to open middleclicked urls in a tab in the background?
[03:44] <abattoir_> |lostbyte|:http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml
[03:44] <marcreichelt> anyone here who knows how to configure Konqueror to open ZIP files with zip:/ kioslave?
[03:44] <sensei> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: You could just manually parse the xml file and use whatever of the streams in it
[03:44] <marcreichelt> and tar.gz and tar.bz2 ones with tar:/ ?
[03:45] <imachine_> anyone?
[03:45] <|lostbyte|> LiNuX_LoVeR_17, and mp3 one ?
[03:45] <sensei> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: Like directly open http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/media/ep3-052106-ubuntuos.ogg
[03:45] <imachine_> this is really annoying i want to set this box up and kubuntu is fucking around with me
[03:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok
[03:45] <imachine_> what the hell is this with two interfaces on one piece of hardware
[03:45] <imachine_> is that normal even
[03:45] <sensei> imachine_: This channel has a language policy
[03:46] <imachine_> sensei, sorry about that
[03:46] <imachine_> sensei, i got carried away.
[03:46] <sensei> Np, I don't mind, and it's not my policy :)
[03:46] <imachine_> dont mean to offend anyone with my blasphemy, im just sort of depressed about this box not working right out-of-the-box
[03:46] <Riddell> imachine_: is this wifi?
[03:47] <imachine_> Riddell, yes
[03:47] <imachine_> but i dont know man, i get wlan0 and wifi0
[03:47] <BKaj> abattoir, I know how to extract the files , but the installing is what has me confused
[03:47] <Riddell> imachine_: yeah, wifi drivers in linux are often like that, it's a real pain
[03:47] <imachine_> in ifconfig -a plus there is wifi0 errors in dmesg
[03:47] <abattoir_> BKaj: which package is this?
[03:47] <imachine_> Riddell, bleh; it worked fine in 5.05
[03:47] <sensei> Most people are bothered with too few wlan interfaces :)
[03:47] <imachine_> Riddell, just came up as eth1 and it was alright ;)
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: there is usually a file called README or INSTALL
[03:47] <Riddell> imachine_: yes, they also change lots randomly
[03:47] <abattoir_> BKaj: generally, you'd have to run './configure' and then 'make' and then 'sudo make install'
[03:47] <imachine_> well change, i am for, but change for the better.
[03:48] <imachine_> and a previously tested change.
[03:48] <imachine_> not some random hoop jumping.
[03:48] <imachine_> bleh :p
[03:48] <imachine_> i like ubuntu and all but it seems this 6.06 release was a bit rushed.
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: That is right its so you can handle virtual interfaces properly
[03:48] <BKaj> I don't have one right now abattoir, Ive been avoiding them since I don't have any luck with those files
[03:48] <marcreichelt> imachine_: it's a LTS version ;)
[03:48] <Riddell> imachine_: not at all, we took an extra two months for it
[03:48] <imachine_> marcreichelt, what does that mean? ;)
[03:49] <Riddell> imachine_: however try each interface and one of them should work from user space properly
[03:49] <abattoir_> BKaj: what are you trying to install?
[03:49] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, aha.
[03:49] <imachine_> well.
[03:49] <BKaj> nothing right now
[03:49] <imachine_> Riddell, so how would i config it?
[03:49] <imachine_> im not familiar with linux's ifconfig.
[03:49] <imachine_> there;s nothing in --help about ssids and wep keys.
[03:50] <sensei> wlassistant is a good tool
[03:50] <imachine_> sensei, it doesnt work ;)
[03:50] <BKaj> I avoid tar.gz files if I come across them ...I try to find the bin file instead
[03:50] <imachine_> doesnt show any network ;)
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: I would recommend wpa_supplicant for anything to do with wireless
[03:50] <abattoir_> BKaj: oh ok, but to compile applications manually from .tar.gz... you must have certain packages installed
[03:50] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, i dont do wpa; i do wep.
[03:50] <abattoir_> BKaj: the buildessential meta package would install them...
[03:50] <arso_> whenver i open wine from command, it shows "wine windows emulator" loading, then when its done, it disappear
[03:50] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, this is a 11b card on a 16bit pcmcia slot, i wouldnt get much transfers with wpa ;)
[03:50] <BKaj> ahhh abattoir, I thought it was something like that :)
[03:51] <imachine_> unless for tkip well, maybe some other day. i dont think the card supports wpa anyway ;p
[03:51] <arso_> doesnt wine have a user interface or anything
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: Wep is a waste of time in terms of security but you can do wep with wpa_supplicant also (and its debugging abilities from wap_cli are good)
[03:51] <abattoir_> BKaj: after that, you should be able to install most applications simply w/ './configure' , 'make' and 'sudo make install'
[03:51] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, i am aware of that.
[03:52] <arso_> i downloaded the "binary emulator and library"
[03:52] <BKaj> right abattoir, can I find the buildessential meta package in synaptic or adept ?
[03:52] <imachine_> wep + mac address 'security' on the ap + radius.
[03:52] <imachine_> is what im aiming for.
[03:52] <imachine_> but anyway! this is not the issue here ;)
[03:52] <arso_> hello, anyon please help me with wine
[03:53] <abattoir_> Bkaj: yes, its actually build-essential, its in adept
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> arso_, you dont have too
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> arso_, simple add this..
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> arso_, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> arso_, to your sources.list
[03:54] <arso_> resources list?
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> ArmedGeek, and sudo apt-get update
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> arso_, ^^
[03:54] <imachine_> this laptop is so crappy. what a waste of desk space.
[03:55] <imachine_> oh great. mouse is b0rked.
[03:55] <imachine_> blaaah. ;]
[03:55] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  sorry could u explain a bit more :P
[03:55] <imachine_> could someone tell me then how would i go on about setting wep key and ssid and channel on a particular interface ?
[03:55] <|lostbyte|> arso_, sudo kate /etc/apt/wources.list
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> arso_, add this [03:56] <|lostbyte|> arso_, to the bottom of that file and save.
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> arso_,  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <gnomefreak> sources.list
[03:56] <sensei>  imachine_ Something like /sbin/iwconfig ath0 mode managed channel NN key open YOURKEY essid YOURAP
[03:56] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  k
[03:57] <imachine_> ahaaa iwconfig
[03:57] <imachine_> okey thanks :)
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> :P
[03:57] <sensei> imachine_: followed by /sbin/iwconfig ath0 ap youraccesspointsMACaddress
[03:57] <imachine_> i come from *bsd, we use ifconfig for wireless ifaces as well.
[03:57] <imachine_> thanks ;]
[03:57] <sensei> Ah ok :)
[03:58] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  should we add a blank line after it?
[03:58] <|lostbyte|> arso_, yes
[03:58] <arso_> so wat does that do t o wine?
[03:58] <arso_> the whole line we added
[03:59] <marcreichelt> does anybody have Kubuntu 5.10 and is able to open ZIP files in Konqueror simply by left click on the ZIP file?
[03:59] <|lostbyte|> arso_, i am simply adding it to your repos. so you dont have to download anything manauly..
[03:59] <imachine_> sensei, hgnnmm
[03:59] <imachine_> sensei, SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:59] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  i downloaded it thru adept, but it still doesnt open ..
[03:59] <imachine_> sensei, how do i pass the wep key
[03:59] <imachine_> sensei, 0xXXXXXXX
[03:59] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  i donno wat to do now
[03:59] <|lostbyte|> arso_, downloaded what ?
[04:00] <imachine_> sensei, its not ascii
[04:00] <sensei> It does hex as well
[04:00] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  wine?
[04:00] <imachine_> sensei, yeah, so do i add 0xMYHEXKEY
[04:00] <imachine_> or just MYHEXKEY
[04:00] <imachine_> (before you ask why dont you try,i did, none work:P)
[04:00] <sensei> MYHEXKEY
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> arso_, so you already have the repo.. darn.. i tought you didt..
[04:00] <imachine_> i get invalid arguments
[04:01] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  sorry, wats repo
[04:01] <Emess> stupid piece of crap dapper...wont play sound OR let me run automatix OR login as root
[04:01] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  and i am not sure if i downloaded the right one
[04:01] <marcreichelt> :-(
[04:01] <Tommy2k4> you dont login as root with ubuntu
[04:01] <|lostbyte|> arso_, repository, the sources.list thing.
[04:01] <Emess> Tommy: i know that but i needed to to run daper
[04:01] <Emess> *automatix
[04:01] <imachine_> sensei, any suggestions?
[04:01] <ninHer> sure....apt-get/sources list
[04:01] <Emess> wait i think i know how to do it anyway
[04:01] <sensei> imachine_: Not really, no :/
[04:01] <imachine_> sensei, i cant set the wep key
[04:01] <imachine_> maybe i need to load some wep module
[04:02] <Emess> hehehe so you CAN logon to root in ubuntu :D
[04:02] <Emess> do a tui login then startx :P
[04:02] <|lostbyte|> arso_, type winecfg
[04:02] <eric_> hi all...I have a question about kate in Kubuntu...
[04:02] <ninHer> yes, it is possible to get root
[04:02] <imachine_> sensei, i loaded wlan_ewp
[04:02] <imachine_> wep that is, but no luck ;/
[04:02] <eric_> how can I stop kate from opening .deb and .bin files from konqueror...?
[04:03] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok   i am in
[04:03] <sensei> imachine_: I suck at wireless stuff, hardly ever use it myself :/
[04:03] <imachine_> yeah ok
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> eric_, configure _ konqueror > file association.
[04:03] <ninHer> wireless is fun and easy to set
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> eric_, under tools.
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> arso_, then it woeks..
[04:03] <imachine_> ninHer, how do i set mine under 6
[04:03] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  so do u know how to use it?
[04:04] <ninHer> under 6 ?
[04:04] <|lostbyte|> arso_, do you have a windows program ?
[04:04] <imachine_> ninHer, 6.06
[04:04] <ninHer> ok
[04:04] <imachine_> ninHer, kubuntu
[04:04] <imachine_> ubuntu, whatever.
[04:04] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  gbs of them
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> ninHer: I wonder if you can help me I need to setup WDS and WPA2 between 2 machines running madwifi-ng and hostapd (You know alot about wireless right ?)
[04:04] <ninHer> imachine_:  read iwconfig manual
[04:04] <imachine_> ninHer, it doesnt work man.
[04:04] <ninHer> imachine_:  man iwconfig
[04:04] <imachine_> ninHer, i read it all.
[04:05] <|lostbyte|> arso_, try wine program.exe and cross your fingers.
[04:05] <ninHer> so, look up the modules
[04:05] <Mason59> Hi all...may I ask a question?
[04:05] <ninHer> the chipset of eth0
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Mason59: Just ask
[04:05] <|lostbyte|> Mason59, No you cant..
[04:05] <Mason59> Thanks
[04:05] <Mason59> DOH!!!
[04:05] <|lostbyte|> j/k
[04:05] <Mason59> :)
[04:05] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  btw when do i type commands in terminal and when in that "run command"
[04:05] <imachine_> ninHer, i have some wlan0 and wifi0
[04:05] <imachine_> ninHer, no eth
[04:06] <Mason59> Is anyone having trouble with Konqueror hanging on opening?
[04:06] <ninHer> open a console a do iwconfig.......tell me what
[04:06] <imachine_> ninHer, eh.
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> wifi0 will be unspec'ed
[04:06] <imachine_> ninHer, lo and eth0 ofcourse have no wifi extensions,
[04:06] <imachine_> ninHer, then wlan0 and wifi0 have no ap and the key seems set.
[04:07] <imachine_> but it wont associate with my ap
[04:07] <ninHer> then some kind of problem with the drivers is likely
[04:07] <imachine_> ninHer, well DUH
[04:07] <sensei> heh
[04:07] <imachine_> ninHer, that was very helpful man.
[04:07] <imachine_> thanks.
[04:07] <Mason59> Sometimes (not all the time), I open Konqueror and it hangs loading images...inconsistent...sometimes loads 19 or 25 images...sometimes more...sometimes less
[04:07] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe": Module not found, is that wat u get when a prog dont work
[04:07] <ninHer> try modprobe in a console
[04:07] <imachine_> ah no need to be pissed, well you tried mate, thanks anyway.
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> arso_, you tell me..
[04:08] <sensei> imachine_: What does iwconfig wlan0 essid nameofyourap  say?
[04:08] <Mason59> I disabled IPv6 in aliases
[04:08] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ??
[04:08] <imachine_> sensei, nothing :)
[04:08] <imachine_> sensei, i set the essid
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> arso_, try another program..
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> arso_, go to winehq.com
[04:08] <arso_> ok
[04:08] <sensei> imachine_: iwconfig wlan0 ap MACofAP ?
[04:09] <Mason59> So I close Konqueror, and kill the kio slaves for it and sometimes it will load when I restart it.  Very odd
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> arso_, there is a list of programs that work..
[04:09] <imachine_> hmm hang on.
[04:09] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ONLY the stuff there works?
[04:09] <sensei> Only those are guaranteed to work
[04:10] <|lostbyte|> arso_, there are the stuff that people tried and were successfull. but its not complete in its self.
[04:10] <Emess> another reason iam hating dapper: i cant get any sound going, and all my dvd and audio codecs are gone :(
[04:10] <Emess> and automatix doesnt work so i cant get them back
[04:10] <Emess> brb
[04:10] <arso_> i see
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> Emess: Try easyubuntu
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> !easyubuntu
[04:10] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:10] <imachine_> sensei, if i do that, it still says AP: None in iwconfig
[04:11] <sensei> imachine_: Weird.. but you know what.. There's probably some error with your driver ;)
[04:11] <Mason59> Also have sound problems in some apps, most notably xgalaga
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: What make of card is it you are using ? chipset ?
[04:11] <imachine_> orinoco_cs
[04:11] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, ndiswrapper -l ?
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> oh..
[04:12] <ninHer> everything smelling windows.....crap
[04:12] <imachine_> |lostbyte|, how can i install ndiswrapper, if i have no network? :)
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: do lsmod if it says anything about hostap then I know what needs to be done
[04:12] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, it does, tell me then!
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, no ! i thought you were using it.
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, does the light on you wifi come on ?
[04:12] <imachine_> hostap_cs, hostap.
[04:12] <Mason59> Anyone else with Konqueror problems?
[04:12] <imachine_> |lostbyte|, it doesnt have a light.
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> k
[04:13] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, you see it in iwconfig right ?
[04:13] <imachine_> yes
[04:13] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, tell me please what should be done then, it does list hostap.
[04:13] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, do you have a ap in your local ?
[04:13] <imachine_> |lostbyte|, dude, everything works in fbsd FINE, it just this ubuntu install that is b0rked somehow.
[04:14] <imachine_> |lostbyte|, i have clients on this ap right as we speak and they connect FINE.
[04:14] <imachine_> its not a setup/hardware issue; its a kubuntu issue.
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: You need to open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:14] <|lostbyte|> imachine_, ok ! iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[04:14] <imachine_> or error between monitor and keyboard
[04:14] <imachine_> :)
[04:14] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, checking it out
[04:14] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, should i blacklist hostap ?
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: and put 'blacklist hostap' 'blacklist hostap_cs' one per line
[04:15] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  wtf!
[04:15] <arso_> wine CS 1.6.exe
[04:15] <arso_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\CS.exe": Module not found
[04:15] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, anything else before i reboot ?
[04:15] <astro_-> Anyone know why apt-get install says "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166" serveral times every time I install something new?
[04:16] <astro_-> also I don't get most of the new apps into the K-menu, is this normal?
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: It should pick it up without problems
[04:16] <imachine_> boot it is then.
[04:16] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, cheers, wish me luck
[04:16] <Mason59> Anyone with Konqueror problems
[04:16] <imachine_> :)
[04:17] <steveire> Can Kate autoindent?
[04:17] <sotired> good morning
[04:17] <|lostbyte|> arso_, this is funny, your wine acts like modprob.
[04:17] <|lostbyte|> sotired, hi !
[04:18] <|lostbyte|> arso_, if you still have my line in sources.list, remove your current wine..
[04:18] <chrisdarby> Can anyone help me get my webcam working? It's a Logitech QuickCam Chat.
[04:18] <sotired> i had this porblem once before and i forget how to fix it. my system sound has reverted back to my onboard. what is the command that i have to type to set it back to my card?
[04:18] <|lostbyte|> and update youe list.
[04:18] <sotired> chrisdarby: i have the same cam...mine just worked out of the box
[04:18] <imachine_> btw, i'd love a bigger console, any suggestions how i could obtain that ? :p
[04:19] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok, but a single line downloads and instals it?
[04:19] <chrisdarby> sotired: I can't get mine to work with Kopete on msn chats
[04:19] <imachine_> i'll google for that later.
[04:19] <sotired> usb?
[04:19] <imachine_> in the meantime, h3sp4wn , now i get NO wifi device ;)
[04:19] <|lostbyte|> arso_, if you still have my line in sources.list, do sudo apt-get --purge remove wine.
[04:19] <chrisdarby> sotired: yes
[04:19] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, NONE at all :D
[04:20] <sotired> chrisdarby, im really not sure, im somewhat of a linux newbie, but try using gaim, mine works with that fine
[04:20] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, i do have orinoco_cs in lsmod tho
[04:20] <julian_> me debi equivocar en la passw de root como hago ahora?
[04:20] <imachine_> ;p
[04:20] <chrisdarby> sotired: when i run $lsusb it just hangs for ages...
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: but do you get wlan0 ?
[04:20] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, nope
[04:20] <ninHer> julian que password de root
[04:21] <zorglu1> julian_: in english it will do better :) or #kubuntu-es
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: What appears in ifconfig -a ?
[04:21] <zorglu1> or -it i dunno :)
[04:21] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, eth0 and lo
[04:21] <julian_> en kubuntu
[04:21] <chrisdarby> sotired: thanks
[04:21] <sotired> anyone know the command to change my sound back to the souncard?
[04:21] <imachine_> eth0 being my built in lan.
[04:21] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok , i removed it, how do we check if its there now?
[04:21] <sotired> chrisdarby: did it work with gaim?
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: I don't believe you
[04:21] <|lostbyte|> arso_, ok ! now sudo apt-get update
[04:22] <steveire> Can anything autoindent for me?
[04:22] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, :]
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: You should have at least sit0 there
[04:22] <imachine_> i dont.
[04:22] <imachine_> tho i agree i should.
[04:22] <imachine_> but wait
[04:23] <imachine_> yeah heh. sit0 on my desktop kubuntu
[04:23] <Nauxer> isnt it better to use uptitude instead of apt-get?
[04:23] <Nauxer> *aptitude
[04:23] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok updating
[04:23] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, is it better to run linux with 'pnp os' in bios?
[04:24] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, seriously, i have no sit0
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: Don't think it makes much difference either way
[04:24] <imachine_> it's weird.
[04:24] <imachine_> well. anyway. i disabled hostap.
[04:24] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, whats sit0 for ?
[04:24] <imachine_> and it doesnt work at all.
[04:24] <imachine_> nothing.
[04:24] <imachine_> |lostbyte|, tunneling or so
[04:24] <imachine_> i think
[04:24] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  ok done, now wat?
[04:24] <|lostbyte|> ok
[04:25] <|lostbyte|> arso_, now apt-cache show wine
[04:25] <|lostbyte|> and paste me the filename line.
[04:25] <zorglu1> sit0 is for ipv6 tunneling
[04:25] <zorglu1> last time i looked :)
[04:25] <Emess> ok, how to get music going? my sound cards arent getting ANYTHING
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Its a good way to check whether people have done (ifconfig -a) or just done ifconfig
[04:26] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, ... you dont believe what i di.
[04:26] <imachine_> okay man.
[04:26] <imachine_> if you dont to help me, dont, but dont call me a f... liar.
[04:26] <arso_> |lostbyte|: Filename: pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[04:26] <|lostbyte|> :) ok
[04:26] <imachine_> s/dont/dont\ want
[04:26] <steveire> KDevelop seems to be just a text editor
[04:26] <|lostbyte|> arso_, ok ! good..
[04:26] <visik7> hi
[04:27] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  can we add it to kmenu
[04:27] <|lostbyte|> arso_, now sudo apt-get install wine
[04:27] <|lostbyte|> it will take some time..
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: Do you have orinoco and orinoco_cs loaded or just one ?
[04:27] <|lostbyte|> arso_, any program you install using wine will be added to kmenu..
[04:27] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, i have hermes, orinoco_cs and orinoco
[04:27] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  how about wine ITSELF
[04:28] <imachine_> maybe i should get rid of hermes
[04:28] <imachine_> ;p
[04:28] <sysrpl> hello
[04:28] <|lostbyte|> arso_, wont be of any use to have a link there. as wine has no interface..
[04:28] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  oh, ok. so i just  "wine prog.exe" ?
[04:28] <imachine_> hey dude
[04:28] <|lostbyte|> yup !
[04:28] <imachine_> h3sp4wn, hostap seems to be the PREFERRED way.
[04:28] <arso_> yay, sounds nice
[04:28] <arso_> hope it works for my imp stuff
[04:28] <imachine_> i'll blacklist orinoco and stick to hostap
[04:28] <imachine_> brb
[04:28] <arso_> 2mins 20secs remaining
[04:29] <Emess> and quake4
[04:29] <volker> hello. anybody kenn tell me which package contains Xlib.h?
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> imachine_: For running an accesspoint maybe
[04:29] <imachine_> i dont know.
[04:29] <imachine_> i will try it.
[04:30] <Hobbsee> volker: check packages.ubuntu.com for that
[04:31] <Hobbsee> there's a search by file or directory
[04:31] <volker> Hobbsee: ive found it. libX11-dev
[04:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:31] <volker> Hobbsee: but thanks
[04:31] <sysrpl> hello
[04:31] <volker> bye
[04:31] <sysrpl> <- new ubunut/kubuntu user
[04:32] <sysrpl> i nstalled yesterday on ylaptop ... should i try to update the graphics drivers?
[04:32] <sysrpl> or ust leve them as per the default install
[04:32] <sysrpl> ?
[04:34] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  its done
[04:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:
[04:35] <arso_>  wine Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe
[04:35] <arso_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe": Module not found
[04:35] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  tell me  theres something else we have to do
[04:36] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  u there man
[04:36] <zorglu1> q. ok i got a .deb, how to include it in the ubuntu mainstream ?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> zorglu1: You mean install it ?
[04:37] <zorglu1> Hawkwind: nope i mean to put them in the ubuntu repository so everybody can access it easily
[04:37] <Hawkwind> zorglu1: You have to get upload rights to REVU
[04:38] <zorglu1> REVU = ?
[04:38] <zorglu1> is there a process description i could follow
[04:38] <Hawkwind> zorglu1: Then it goes through a process of being checked and all that good stuff, then will be put into Edgy
[04:38] <Hawkwind> !revu
[04:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about revu
[04:38] <Meta-> I need some help
[04:38] <zorglu1> http://people.debian.org/~acid/tremulous/  <- it is not even mine. just i like tremulous so would like to do the necessary steps
[04:39] <zorglu1> tremulous.net for the main site
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: Is it in debian sid ?
[04:39] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: i dunno
[04:40] <zorglu1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU <- the url of revu, may be good to put it in ubotu
[04:41] <Meta-> GUys
[04:41] <Meta-> I am on the kubuntu live disc
[04:42] <Meta-> I ned to mount my hd so i can get file from hit
[04:42] <Meta-> BUT
[04:42] <Meta-> There is no /dev/hda
[04:42] <Meta-> what do I do?
[04:42] <Meta-> How can I mount it?
[04:43] <arso_> |lostbyte|: .........
[04:43] <Mason59> Anyone with Konqueror problems?
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Mason59: Such as ?
[04:44] <Mason59> Konqueror sometimes hangs on opening...usually gets between 65 & 95% complete and then just freezes
[04:44] <Mason59> Doesn't do it all the time and I can terminate it
[04:44] <Mason59> After terminating, I kill the kio_http slaves and it will sometimes start OK
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Mason59: Have you tried moving your current ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror directory to something like ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror-old and then restarting konqueror ?
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: Is it a free first person shooter with the quake 3 engine ?
[04:45] <Mason59> No...let me try that
[04:46] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: yep. http://tremulous.net for the main site. http://people.debian.org/~acid/tremulous/ being the debian package. im not acid
[04:47] <arso_> isnt there a free cedega equivalant ?besides wine
[04:47] <Hawkwind> arso_: No
[04:48] <arso_> :-(
[04:48] <arso_> i am having problems with wine
[04:48] <Mason59> Did that Hawkwind...restarted Konqueror, loaded Yahoo, but hangs @ 40%
[04:48] <arso_> getting cant find module when "wine prog.exe"
[04:49] <marcreichelt> I now found out that under Kubuntu 5.10 there is a ark_part listed in the appropriate configuration dialog in konqueror
[04:49] <marcreichelt> under 6.06, it is NOT listed
[04:49] <marcreichelt> how can I enable ark_part under Kubuntu 6.06?
[04:49] <steveire> is there any programming application that performs auto indentation?
[04:50] <Mason59> OK, so I terminated Konqueror, killed the kio_http slaves and restarted Konquerer and Yahoo loads...very strange
[04:50] <BazziR> steveire for which language?
[04:50] <chrisdarby> hey, i've just mounted an NTFS partition but i can't play any mp3 files on it, i've tried copying them to my linux drive but this makes no difference
[04:51] <steveire> I didn't think it would matter, but python, php javascript, c++
[04:51] <marcreichelt> chrisdarby: do you want to play them with AmaroK?
[04:51] <zorglu1> chrisdarby: google for 'restricted format ubuntu' you will find the proper page
[04:51] <steveire> I've got Kdevelop, but it seems entirely useless
[04:51] <Hawkwind> !restricted
[04:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <BazziR> Try eclipse :) does python, java, html/js so far well
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Or read that :P
[04:51] <zorglu1> another possibility :)
[04:51] <chrisdarby> zorglu1: thanks once again
[04:51] <Hawkwind> chrisdarby: Read that stuff ubotu just mentioned
[04:52] <os2mac_Kubuntu> hi all
[04:52] <Hawkwind> chrisdarby: Specifically the last URL there
[04:52] <steveire> I'll try eclipse so thanks.
[04:53] <os2mac_Kubuntu> trying to use BCM43xx as a driver for my wlan card... I have followed the procedures in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[04:53] <os2mac_Kubuntu> and when I attempt to ifconfig the card I get the following messages
[04:54] <os2mac_Kubuntu> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Protocol error
[04:54] <Hawkwind> os2mac_Kubuntu: Have you read this one:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:54] <arso_> Hawkwind:  somethings wrong with my wine
[04:54] <Hawkwind> os2mac_Kubuntu: Several have used that one that used the one you posted and had better luck
[04:54] <arso_> Hawkwind:  whenever i run anwything i get "error running xxx -module not found"
[04:54] <Hawkwind> arso_: It's because it uses Windows junk :P
[04:55] <Hawkwind> arso_: So ask in #WineHQ
[04:55] <arso_> oh k
[04:55] <Hawkwind> arso_: I don't do Windows and even more so I don't do Wine or Cedega
[04:55] <os2mac_Kubuntu> ok I will try it Hawkwind
[04:55] <arso_> well i need it for games
[04:56] <Hawkwind> arso_: No, you *want* it for games.  You don't *need* it since there are many native linux games :)
[04:56] <zorglu1> like tremulous.net:)
[04:59] <Philip5> Hawkwind: had any nightmares about football tonight? :)
[04:59] <zorglu1> vive la france!! :)
[04:59] <Philip5> zorglu1: lol
[04:59] <chrisdarby> I've just tried opening a wav file in amaroK and this isn't working either?  Is it because i'm opening it from an NTFS drive?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Philip5: Nope.  The day ended great as my Nascar driver won the race last night :)
[05:00] <Philip5> Hawkwind: then you atleast got something :)
[05:00] <arso_> Hawkwind:  but not the ones i want ;) like counter strike
[05:00] <Hawkwind> arso_: So give up gaming.  Though truthfully, use the best tool for the job.  If it happens to be Windows, then don't be ashamed to use it if it works best
[05:00] <Philip5> arso_: then you should check out cedegas wine implementation
[05:01] <Philip5> arso_: www.transgaming.com
[05:03] <os2mac_Kubuntu> Hawkwind I did get the driver installed but I am getting an AP invalid when I try to look at it in iwconfig
[05:07] <maitre-hokage5> bonjour
[05:07] <maitre-hokage5> je vien d'installer kubuntu
[05:08] <maitre-hokage5> et j'ai quelque soucis
[05:08] <SonicChao>  !fr
[05:08] <SonicChao> !fr
[05:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:08] <maitre-hokage5> o sorry
[05:08] <jb_> hello
[05:09] <byen> hey guys
[05:09] <SonicChao> Hi jb_
[05:09] <byen>  I need some help with Ubuntu recognizing my external USB hard drive. Can someone help me as it does not show up anywhere
[05:09] <SonicChao> What seems to be the problem?
[05:09] <SonicChao> byen, this is Kubuntu chat, not Ubuntu chat
[05:09] <jb_> does anybody know something about wireless lan with dwl-660 (orinocco Chipset?)
[05:09] <byen> * I meant on Kubuntu
[05:09] <SonicChao> byen, okay
[05:09] <byen> :P
[05:09] <SonicChao> :D
[05:09] <arso_> Philip5:  i dont wanna pay for cedega
[05:10] <arso_> i am dual booting windows anyway
[05:10] <byen> thie thing was.. it mounted automatically on Breezy
[05:10] <byen> but on dapper it does not show up anywhere
[05:10] <Howitzer> Why does the libsdl1.2debian-arts package give me choppy sound in Tremulous?
[05:10] <jb_> does anybody got wlan running with kubuntu 6.06 and orinocco chipset card?
[05:10] <byen> and since i have a 6gb hd on Kubu. i need the ext hd for my files
[05:10] <marcreichelt> !ark
[05:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about ark
[05:11] <marcreichelt> !ark_part
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about ark_part
[05:11] <byen> can someone direct me here
[05:11] <Howitzer> the libsdl1.2debian-nat package gives me no sound at all in Tremulous..
[05:11] <SonicChao> marcreichelt, the bot knows nothing.
[05:11] <Howitzer> !restrictedformats
[05:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <Howitzer> yes it does :D
[05:11] <Howitzer> !SDL
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about SDL
[05:11] <Howitzer> !sdl
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about sdl
[05:11] <jb_> !wlan
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about wlan
[05:11] <SonicChao> lol
[05:11] <SonicChao> LOL!
[05:11] <Howitzer> damnit
[05:11] <Howitzer> !arts
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about arts
[05:11] <jb_> !lol
[05:11] <byen> !external usb
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol
[05:11] <SonicChao> I know what I'm saying...
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about external usb
[05:11] <SonicChao> STOP!
[05:11] <SonicChao> NOW!
[05:11] <Howitzer> !usb
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[05:12] <byen> gah
[05:12] <Howitzer> wtf
[05:12] <marcreichelt> !bill
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about bill
[05:12] <byen> !wtf
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about wtf
[05:12] <SonicChao> No playing with the bot.
[05:12] <byen> lol
[05:12] <SonicChao> I said no playing with the bot.
[05:12] <SonicChao> Are you listening?
[05:12] <SonicChao> This is a support channel.
[05:12] <SonicChao> Join #debian-bots to play with the bot
[05:12] <jb_> ok, is there somebody experienced with wlan in this support channel?
[05:13] <byen> isnt there a way to see where the usb hdd is mounted?
[05:13] <byen> how can i see where it is and how can i get it automounted
[05:13] <jb_> am i on ignore for everyone in her or does nobody use wlan in kubuntu?
[05:13] <marcreichelt> jb_, what do you want to know
[05:13] <marcreichelt> ?
[05:14] <jb_> hi marc, my dwl-660 (dlink) is not running although it has orinocco chipset, which is described as native supported by kubuntu
[05:14] <jaro> h3sp4wn:  Hey there :-) Do You wann help me out with the X.org Conf Problem ?
[05:15] <marcreichelt> what means "is not running"?
[05:15] <jb_> there are two leds, act and pwr, pwr is running, act not. iwconfig shows, that the card finds the accesspoint, the essid is correct, but no futher actions
[05:16] <jb_> any wether dhcp or manual
[05:16] <jb_> removinc and replacing the card shows in dmesg, that everything is ok, except one fact: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"
[05:16] <jb_> sorry, was eth1
[05:16] <jb_> not eth0
[05:17] <jb_> i can not ping the accesspoint nor any other adress in the lan
[05:17] <marcreichelt> can you pinh <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:17] <marcreichelt> wahh
[05:17] <marcreichelt> ping
[05:18] <jb_> wait, therefore i have to disable eth0 (that is lan and my actual connection to the web)
[05:18] <marcreichelt> no
[05:18] <marcreichelt> don't do that
[05:19] <marcreichelt> is there any other pc you can use for IRC?
[05:19] <jb_> back
[05:19] <jb_> can you still read me?
[05:19] <marcreichelt> yes
[05:19] <jb_> ok, <IP_ADDRESS> works fine
[05:19] <marcreichelt> so lo is working
[05:20] <marcreichelt> what does your /etc/network/interfaces say?
[05:20] <jb_> i will switch to another computer, so we can experminet on this one
[05:20] <marcreichelt> k
[05:20] <marcreichelt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:22] <jb_> just pasted it under your nick
[05:22] <gj> marcreichelt, it is me, jb_
[05:22] <gj> we can now "play" with my concerned computer while i stay tuned with this one
[05:23] <marcreichelt> k
[05:24] <marcreichelt> gj, do you have such as many network devices? ;)
[05:24] <gj> nope, i have a laptop with builtin lan and a pcmcia-adapter
[05:25] <marcreichelt> gj, do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[05:25] <gj> k, 1 min
[05:26] <gupta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto - isn't there an easier method for this ?
[05:26] <gj> done, should i paste the output?
[05:26] <gupta> probably with a function to update a rewritable cd ?
[05:26] <gj> ha, i can not paste it, my network is down :)
[05:27] <marcreichelt> then overwrite the /etc/init.d/interfaces with the content from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17015
[05:27] <marcreichelt> or just comment the lines out that I commented ;)
[05:27] <gj> k,pls 1 min
[05:28] <marcreichelt> Hi jaro, you are from Darmstadt, too? :D
[05:28] <gj> ok, networiking start?
[05:28] <gj> networking
[05:28] <marcreichelt> yes
[05:29] <marcreichelt> then I need the output of ifconfig and iwconfig
[05:29] <gj> started, pwr-led is on, ip is <IP_ADDRESS>. but no ping possible
[05:30] <marcreichelt> no ping to which IP address?
[05:30] <jaro> lol
[05:30] <gj> ifconfig shows the protocol ethern, the mac-adress, inet, bcat and mask all correct
[05:30] <jaro> how do you know ?
[05:30] <jaro> ip ?
[05:30] <gj> i can not ping any client in my lan
[05:30] <marcreichelt> no
[05:30] <marcreichelt> [17:27]  --> jaro hat den Kanal betreten (n=jaro@A310.ps.wh.tu-darmstadt.de). ;-)
[05:30] <jaro> oh ^
[05:30] <jaro> lol
[05:30] <jaro> are you studying ?
[05:30] <gj> i can ping localhost
[05:30] <marcreichelt> clear
[05:30] <marcreichelt> do you have a router?
[05:31] <marcreichelt> you seem to have one
[05:31] <gj> iwconfig says, lo, eth0, irda0 and sit0 have no wireless extensions. eth1: essid FingerWeg
[05:31] <marcreichelt> k
[05:31] <jaro> ?
[05:31] <marcreichelt> ifconfig?
[05:32] <gj> ifconfig says that eth1 and l0 are up, eth1 has its assigned ip-adress
[05:32] <marcreichelt> k
[05:32] <gj> i can not paste it, bec. no lan on that laptop actually
[05:32] <marcreichelt> what is your router's address?
[05:32] <gj> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:32] <marcreichelt> router ^^
[05:33] <gj> you mean, the dsl-adress, so to say from outside?
[05:33] <marcreichelt> or gateway
[05:33] <gj> my gateway, internal, is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:33] <marcreichelt> k
[05:33] <marcreichelt> ping that one
[05:33] <marcreichelt> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:33] <gj> nothing
[05:33] <gj> unreachable
[05:33] <marcreichelt> k
[05:34] <marcreichelt> moment, I'll open a chat between us two..
[05:34] <gj> thanks
[05:35] <ubuntu> anyone ever installed 6.06 on a Dell Dimension 1300c? I have just bought one, and I am going to put it on it.
[05:35] <gj> ok, wait, i register
[05:40] <kerbel> Can someone please help me with .fonts.conf? I want to make an entry which configures all "Serif" fonts to use Antialiasing
[05:41] <kerbel> Or do I have to ask this question somwhere else?
[05:46] <DocTomoe> I need help with my broadcom BCM4318 wifi card on dapper
[05:48] <Hawkwind> DocTomoe: Might try reading this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:49] <DocTomoe> Hawkwind: I tried to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5, but it didn't work, and i still have an eth1 device instead the wlan0 device I used to have
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> DocTomoe: Did you use ndiswrapper previously
[05:53] <DocTomoe> h3sp4wn: Yes.
[05:53] <DocTomoe> Hawkwind: Point 4 gives me /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-686/bcm43xx_microcode2.fw: No such file or directory
[05:56] <Hawkwind> DocTomoe: I've not dealt with wireless in Kubuntu so I am only giving you URL's that others have used successfully
[05:58] <DocTomoe> ok, thanks
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> DocTomoe: Have you blacklisted ndiswrapper ?
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> DocTomoe: And run sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[05:59] <abattoir_> DocTomoe: did you try what i said earlier in the day?
[05:59] <tnt2> every time I run a graphical application, multiple error messages appear on my shell, like these: X Error BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, locales not supported on X server... could you help me?
[06:01] <DocTomoe> abattoir_: didn't work -_-
[06:02] <DocTomoe> h3sp4wn: I changed so much till now I don't know where I stand anymore -_-. I just blacklisted ndiswrapper to get that bcm43xx driver to work eventually
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> DocTomoe: Is there anyway you could connect via a wire to run the above script ?
[06:03] <DocTomoe> h3sp4wn: that's the reason I am able to write this :)
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> DocTomoe: <IP_ADDRESS>. Extract it Yourself - Do that bit but run the provided script instead of using the windows firmware
[06:06] <Muki-DA> Right now I don't have permissions to 1. open a certain mounted folder and 2. load Amarok w/o Sudo.
[06:06] <Muki-DA> Is there a fix for this?
[06:06] <apollo2011> I am installing ubuntu on my laptop and I used the partition tool in the graphical installation to remove a partition and resize my c: ntfs partition larger and leave room for Linux, but I think what happened was the partition was resized but the fs wasn't, because Windows still says C has the same space as before but the Disk Management and every Linux partition manager shows the drive as larger. How can I fix this?
[06:08] <sotired> anyone here a wine expert?
[06:08] <sotired> not the drink :)
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> sotired: #winehq
[06:09] <sotired> thank you
[06:09] <tnt2> every time I run an application, multiple error messages appear on my shell, like these: X Error BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, locales not supported on X server... could you help me?
[06:10] <sotired> i get the same...but everythign works
[06:11] <tnt2> my current configuration can't pass OpenGL Direct Rendering nor 3DAcceleration tests...
[06:12] <tnt2> I have a NVIDIA Riva TNT 2 Model 64
[06:13] <Muki-DA> how do I mount something as root that anyone can read?
[06:14] <Muki-DA> It keeps saying "read only file system" whenever I try to change anything
[06:14] <Muki-DA> Oh wait, now it works. ^_^
[06:16] <Muki-DA> And at the moment, the only issue is that amarok only runs under sudo.
[06:16] <Rede> im using kubuntu and my wifi keeps disconnecting. i have tried disabling and re-enabling the card in the control panel, i tried searching for the network again to reconnect, but i always end up forced to reboot. anyone know if theres an easier way to restart my wifi? (im using a dlink card that uses acx100 drivers)
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> Rede: sudo ifdown IFNAME && sudo ifup IFNAME (IFNAME is wlan0 or eth0 or eth1 or whatever)
[06:21] <arso_> hey gyts
[06:21] <arso_> guys*
[06:21] <arso_> is there anything  likle "taskmanager:" here in linux
[06:21] <arso_> for showing current tasks
[06:22] <snikker> in a amd64 system, some 32-bit applications are dysplayed with very small font. why?
[06:24] <Muki-DA> Why would amarok run only under sudo?
[06:25] <snikker> no ones can hhelp me?
[06:28] <monomaniacpat> how do you install kubuntu efficiently and without changing the splash with ubuntu 6.06?
[06:29] <jaro> what do I have to do to Use an additional monitor ????
[06:32] <Kreuger> monomaniacpat: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <Iam8up> can anyone tell me how to switch desktops via keyboard shortcuts?
[06:37] <arso_> OI anybody
[06:37] <arso_> how do i see wat tasks are running like task manager
[06:37] <Iam8up> arso_ - control esc
[06:38] <arso_> THANK U
[06:40] <nixternal> Iam8up: "Kmenu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts"     you want the walk through desktops...assign the key combo you want
[06:40] <arso_> umm guys
[06:40] <arso_> noob question but
[06:40] <arso_> how do i install a program from a .tar.gz
[06:40] <nixternal> arso
[06:40] <Iam8up> nixternal - tyvm
[06:40] <nixternal> arg
[06:40] <nixternal> np Iam8up
[06:41] <nixternal> sorry arso_   type       tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[06:41] <arso_> nixternal:  yes?>
[06:41] <nixternal> that will extract the tar file
[06:41] <nixternal> then it is usually a matter of typing the following
[06:41] <nixternal> ./configure
[06:41] <nixternal> make
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> arso_: Read the instructions inside usually README or INSTALL sometimes in doc/README doc/INSTALL
[06:41] <nixternal> sudo make install
[06:41] <Iam8up> before you do that..
[06:41] <Iam8up> Read the instructions inside usually README or INSTALL sometimes in doc/README doc/INSTALL
[06:41] <Iam8up> i was just going to mentin that =P
[06:41] <nixternal> wtf
[06:41] <arso_> i see thnx
[06:41] <arso_> lol
[06:42] <arso_> how about rars and zips
[06:42] <Iam8up> every once and a while you'll find an IGNOREME - that's the same thing as README
[06:42] <nixternal> unzip zips
[06:42] <nixternal> unrar rars
[06:42] <arso_> oh btw in run command or konsole
[06:42] <nixternal> actually with rars i think you need to install an extra package
[06:42] <nixternal> konsole
[06:43] <Iam8up> you want to open up the console, and cd to the folder where the tarball is located
[06:43] <nixternal> for rar..in konsole...type           sudo apt-get install rar
[06:43] <arso_> umm
[06:43] <arso_> tar: cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:43] <arso_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:43] <arso_> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:43] <arso_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:43] <Iam8up> you want to open up the console, and cd to the folder where the tarball is located
[06:43] <arso_> ya i did that
[06:43] <nixternal> tar -zxvf cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz
[06:43] <nixternal> copy and paste
[06:43] <Iam8up> No such file or directory
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> arso_: If you have problems with cedega you would be better asking in #cedega
[06:44] <nixternal> did you download that to your desktop btw?
[06:44] <arso_> no
[06:44] <arso_> hojme
[06:44] <arso_> home
[06:44] <nixternal> ok
[06:44] <arso_> i wish they crack cedega
[06:44] <nixternal> why?
[06:44] <arso_> so u dont pay :P
[06:44] <nixternal> we don't talk cracking and hacking and script kiddie stuff in here...
[06:44] <arso_> btw is this like the offical linux server?
[06:44] <nixternal> that is the price you pay for using non FOSS
[06:45] <nixternal> hey groovis
[06:45] <groovis> yo.
[06:45] <groovis> I'm having a problem with Konqueror and Kate
[06:45] <Iam8up> arso_ - there is not such thing as an official linux server...
[06:45] <groovis> kate keeps opening odd filetypes
[06:45] <groovis> like .deb
[06:46] <groovis> and .wsz (winamp skins)
[06:46] <Iam8up> what would you prefer they open with..?
[06:46] <groovis> nothing. Save as would be nice.
[06:47] <groovis> those extensions aren't in Konqueror's preferences either
[06:47] <groovis> it's weird.
[06:47] <nixternal> groovis: i know what you are talking about, and that is a reason konqi makes me mad
[06:47] <groovis> it's really aggrivating.
[06:47] <nixternal> now i need to try to remember how to fix that issue
[06:48] <jb_> hello, anybody out there who can help me troubleshoot wireless lan?
[06:48] <groovis> when I search Konq's file associations for '.deb', for instance, I see the Debian Package manager...
[06:48] <stephan22222_> hi
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> jb_: What wireless chipset ?
[06:48] <groovis> but yet it opens with kate. Grrr.
[06:48] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:48] <stephan22222_>   compiz-gnome: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[06:48] <stephan22222_> E: Broken packages
[06:48] <jb_> orinoco, it is a dwl-660
[06:49] <groovis> nixternal: you've had this problem as well?
[06:49] <stephan22222_> but in kubuntu is nowher 1.12.3, where to get it?
[06:50] <nixternal> yes groovis
[06:50] <nixternal> im trying to figure out how to fix it
[06:50] <nixternal> i think it is with the file associations and embedded editors
[06:50] <groovis> nixternal: remove Kate ;)
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> jb_: Is orinoco_cs in lsmod ?
[06:51] <groovis> nixternal: yeah, but there's no gui way to do it...that I can see
[06:51] <nixternal> no way..i love kate and use kate for everything
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> jb_: Or is it loading hostap ?
[06:51] <groovis> nixternal: I love kate too, but we're thinking different Kates...
[06:52] <jb_> h3sp4wn: lsmod shows, that orinoco is loaded, orinoco_cs and pcmcia. but pcmcia is also linked to hostap_cs
[06:52] <jb_> hostap is also loaded
[06:53] <jb_> hostap_cs              64536  0
[06:53] <jb_> hostap                119428  1 hostap_cs
[06:53] <jb_> ieee80211_crypt         6272  1 hostap
[06:53] <jb_> orinoco_cs             17928  1
[06:53] <jb_> orinoco                43156  1 orinoco_cs
[06:53] <jb_> hermes                  7808  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco
[06:53] <nixternal> !pastebin
[06:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:53] <jb_> okok
[06:54] <jb_> next time, promised
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> jb_: sudo rmmod hostap_cs && sudo rmmod hostap
[06:54] <nixternal> i thought the 660 was prismII
[06:54] <chahibi> Hello, can anyone please paste his/her /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ? I think mine is wrong
[06:54] <nixternal> i know the 650 is either orinoco or prismII depending on the version
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> There is different revisions I think
[06:54] <nixternal> ya..same with the 650
[06:55] <jb_> done, the 660 is orinoco, mine at least
[06:55] <nixternal> i had the prismII 660..it just works
[06:55] <nixternal> so does the orinoco and dapper
[06:55] <jb_> nixternal, nice for you, but in here, no way :(
[06:55] <jb_> after rmmod, what should i do then?
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> blacklist hostap and hostap_cs
[06:57] <groovis> nixternal: i removed Kate... clicked the link, and got 'Service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kate.desktop' is malformatted...
[06:57] <jb_> how do i blacklist them?
[06:57] <groovis> nixternal: looks like I'll start looking there...
[06:57] <nixternal> ya..i know it has something to do with the kate.desktop
[06:58] <nixternal> but i thought you could disable that in the embedded applications area...but i guess not from the looks of it
[06:58] <Kreuger> monomaniacpat: did you get it?
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> jb_: Have you actually tried just setting up wpa_supplicant ?
[06:59] <jb_> the dwl-660 does not know anything about wpa, so i did not set it up