[07:01] <pajamian> willfrand: ok, it was mainly a suggestion on where you can get help in your native language.  If you'd rather have help here and can communicate in english, that's fine by me.
[07:01] <willfrand> hey bullgard4, it's cool... and do you know the latinamerica?
[07:02] <Polishpaul> I need to fix my monitor resolution - If i 'detect' my monitor in (system -> screens & graphics) it finds it as a Generic Plug n Play 640x480. I am normally running at 1280x1024 but the native resolution for the monitor is 1400x1050. How can i properly 'identify' my monitor? Should i set the resolution via xorg.conf?
[07:02] <bullgard4> willfrand: No. Yo no era en America del Sud.
[07:03] <bullgard4> willfrand: Pero en este canalo es necessario hablar en Engles.
[07:03] <willfrand> yes pajamian... no problem, only I call myself a little patience, by my littles aknowments in english
[07:03] <musikgoat> Polishpaul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:03] <willfrand> yes bullgard
[07:03] <vikku_> when  i untar it .........it says "number" of header files not found
[07:04] <vikku_> are these dependencies we are talking of ?
[07:04] <pajamian> musikgoat: any problem that sounds like, "after running for a long time then cold booting something doesn't work" is almost certainly a problem with your hardware.
[07:04] <willfrand> and, where do you learn spanish?
[07:04] <phuzion> I think I just activated some weird accessibility mode, all of my windows are reverse colors, help
[07:04] <musikgoat> pajamian: I could agree if the card wasn't being detected, and/or windows on another partition didn't work with it
[07:05] <musikgoat> pajamian: but thanks for the suggestion
[07:05] <pajamian> vikku_: you can install them all in one shot with this command: sudo apt-get build-dep binutils
[07:05] <bullgard4> willfrand: Estoy un radioafficionado. Era necessario hablar con operadores del America Central in Espanol.
[07:05] <pengo> ummmmmmmmmmm in order to upgrade the package xserver-xorg-video-intel (from hardy, cause it includes overlay support finally), synaptic wants me to remove, amongst other things, ubuntu-desktop, xorg, and xserver-xorg ... is that as stupid an idea as it sounds?
[07:06] <bullgard4> willfrand: Estoy un radioafficionado. Era necessario hablar con operadores del America Central en Castillano.
[07:06] <vikku_> ok
[07:06] <willfrand> yes?? i want to learn over radio
[07:07] <Mat-Toufoutu> hi everyone
[07:07] <willfrand> i am a physical student, next to graduate
[07:07] <willfrand> and i was studing the antennas
[07:07] <bullgard4> willfrand: Vamos a terminar hablar en Espaniol a hora aqui.
[07:07] <willfrand> and after... this hobbie... is very interesting
[07:08] <Mat-Toufoutu> i wanna install ubuntu on an external hard drive (i cant resize my windows partition), but my bios doesnt has any option to boot from usb, how can i make the computer boot on ubuntu?
[07:08] <pajamian> pengo: ubuntu-desktop isn't a problem, the others may be depending on if thier functionality is replaced by other packages that are installed.  You really should ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <willfrand> well bullgard... can do we to tell in the messenger?
[07:09] <pengo> #/j ubuntu+1
[07:09] <pengo> oops
[07:09] <viper> hi my name is Darren and I have been using ubuntu for the last month, i am having some problems.. I have duel screens and a nvidia 8500 video card and when I run anything fullscreen (dosbox/zsnes/games) they stretch over both screens and i don't want that cause it makes then unplayable! any advice on how to fix this?
[07:09] <pengo> pajamian: thanks
[07:09] <stefano_> is rsync a good idea for local backup on seperate hard disks?
[07:10] <bullgard4> willfrand: Do you mean Microsoft messenger? I do not have a Microsoft messenger. Or do you mean some other messenger program? Or do you mean the messaging service of the Freenode network?
[07:11] <Mat-Toufoutu> can anyone help me installing ubuntu on my external hard drive? (and make it be able to boot, even if the bios doesnt have any "boot from usb" option)
[07:11] <willfrand> bullgard4, i've the amsn, but my nick is in hotmail
[07:12] <Alan_M> !installing
[07:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:12] <stefano_> Mat-Toufoutu, i think you're out of luck there, sorry
[07:12] <Alan_M> Yeah, Mat-Toufoutu, you are bud.
[07:13] <phuzion> Uh, guys, you know its possible to put Grub onto a CD or floppy then boot off of that...
[07:13] <bullgard4> willfrand: I do not know what hotmail is. Is it a mail service?
[07:13] <phuzion> bullgard4, yes, a free email service provided by microsoft
[07:13] <stefano_> phuzion, yes there is a very convinient thing called the "super grub disk", just google it, it's very easy
[07:13] <bullgard4> phuzion: Thank you for informing. I did not know.
[07:14] <phuzion> bullgard4, no problem
[07:14] <stefano_> oh :O
[07:14] <phuzion> stefano_, I was replying to what you and Alan_M said about Mat-Toufoutu being out of luck
[07:14] <willfrand> yes bullgard is a mail service, what is your client service? and your nick in this client service?
[07:14] <Alan_M> phuzion, I said that, then looked further...
[07:14] <Alan_M> oops :/
[07:15] <stefano_> phuzion, i don't think grub has a clue about filesystems and block devices, so i don't think it's able to boot off of usb, but i may be wrong.
[07:15] <phuzion> Ahh, ok
[07:15] <vikku_> pajamian : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59449/ pls see for the error iam getting
[07:15] <stefano_> is anyone of you running Epiphany with webkit?
[07:15] <phuzion> !anyone
[07:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:16] <kavik> I was running ubuntu, and i couldn't get wireless... any help?
[07:16] <bullgard4> stefano_: I am running Epiphany. May be with webkit. How can I check that?
[07:17] <stefano_> bullgard4, there should be a note about that in the "about" dialog, it should either say "using webkit" or gecko
[07:17] <tgcondor> phuzion: why put grub on CD?
[07:17] <Alan_M> because hard drives crash tgcondor
[07:18] <bullgard4> stefano_: It says: "Using Gecko 1.8."
[07:18] <phuzion> tgcondor, because the person who wanted an alternative cannot resize his windows partition, and wants to run ubuntu from an external drive, but can't boot directly from USB
[07:18] <phuzion> by the way, I figured out the problem with my system going into negative mode
[07:18] <stefano_> bullgard4, thought so, i was looking for a way to get it up and running, but i guess i have to wait a month. thanks
[07:18] <stefano_> so, is anyone here using rsync to any extend?
[07:18] <tgcondor> phuzion: ic, the alternative CD allows you too boot from HDD
[07:19] <Alan_M> Why?
[07:19] <tgcondor> phuzion: I think with a mod you can make it boot from external
[07:19] <phuzion> tgcondor, the person's BIOS does not support direct boot from USB.
[07:19] <phuzion> I was suggesting a different way to do so
[07:19] <vikku_> the error i get installing binutils are : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59450/
[07:20] <tgcondor> phuzion: right, so the person would be booting from CD which then passes control to USB
[07:20] <phuzion> Right
[07:20] <stefano_> the concept of bios is outdated and i hope that we linux'ers can get our hands on efi soon :\
[07:21] <stefano_> without buying a mac that is :-)
[07:21] <phuzion> You want to get our hands onto the Equestrian Federation of Ireland
[07:21] <phuzion> ?
[07:21] <bauer__> xvnc , just have a grey screen ? Which command should i put in startup to start a gnome desktop ?
[07:21] <Alan_M> its an old OLD concept...but...it still works..so..i don't see it changing unless someone seriously seriously finds a better idea.
[07:22] <Alan_M> !efi
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about efi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <tgcondor> phuzion: i'm guessing the process would be as follows (automated through a script): boot into a minimal live CD that can access USB, then use linux loader to load the kernel from the USB etc
[07:22] <Alan_M> heh, figures
[07:22] <phuzion> Alan_M, I know what EFI is, I was making a joke
[07:22] <stefano_> Alan_M, there is a better way to do it, and from my understanding it is pretty well documented. (efi) the big difference is that efi knows about devices and partitions whereas bios doesnt have a clue, all it's doing is running whatever is in the MBR
[07:22] <Alan_M> phuzion......maybe I didn't ;)
[07:23] <phuzion> tgcondor, yeah
[07:23] <phuzion> Alan_M, righto
[07:23] <Alan_M> thanks stefano :)
[07:24] <Alan_M> im only A+ certified..i really don't keep up with the futuristic technolgies out there :(
[07:24] <stefano_> Alan_M, i didnt mean to insult your knowledge
[07:24] <Alan_M> you didn't, I promise :)
[07:24] <stefano_> :>
[07:25] <Alan_M> I was just like "uh...what the heck are they talking about"
[07:25] <Alan_M> 'till someone explained that is.
[07:25] <tgcondor> Alan_M: feel good. i'm still lost
[07:25] <tgcondor> Alan_M: but then, i don't have A+
[07:26]  * Alan_M can't set up a Class in here or ill get fussed at by the op's
[07:26] <Alan_M> :)
[07:26] <Alan_M> im A+ certified...and..im using linux as my main dist.
[07:26] <Alan_M> heh
[07:26] <Alan_M> go figure!
[07:26] <stefano_> it just seems that linux is approaching the mainstream so much, meaning that the 1 year lag that we were used to gets smaller and smaller, i think EFI should be one of the next steps. but i know it runs on macs, which use efi, but you need some proprietary blobs to get it up and running.
[07:26] <tritium> !enter | Alan_M
[07:26] <ubotu> Alan_M: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:27]  * Alan_M sees punctuation besides enter all over the place on my comments.
[07:27] <stefano_> on the other hand, we can't just get rid of all legacy (best example is 95% of desktop users still running 32bit even though it's fair to call that legacy, from a hardware pespective)
[07:28] <Alan_M> !enter | tgcondor
[07:28] <ubotu> tgcondor: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:28] <bluefoxx> i was wondering...is there something similar to the "make available offline" feature of windows? i want to acess certain websites of information offline when my other computer is hogging my bandwidth
[07:29] <stefano_> bluefoxx, depends on your browser
[07:29] <bluefoxx> stefano_: is there a command i can use?
[07:30] <stefano_> bluefoxx, i think firefox should do it, but i can't say for sure as i'm using the beta versions of ff3
[07:30] <stefano_> bluefoxx, just safe the page
[07:30] <bluefoxx> stefano_: how is it? the beta?
[07:30] <d4rkmonkey> I have a bunch of .BUP, .IFO, and .VOB files and I was wondering how I properly burn this to a DVD
[07:31] <tgcondor> !askthebot | Alan_M
[07:31] <ubotu> Alan_M: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[07:31] <stefano_> bluefoxx, it uber dramatically ROCKS! but i wouldnt recommend it yet since it crashes every once in a while which can be annoying. but omg it's so much better than 2 (which i gave up using)
[07:31] <tgcondor> Alan_M: :OP
[07:32] <Alan_M> I know how to use the bot and I know all the rules of this room..thanks though ;)
[07:32] <n2diy> anybody have experience formatting an SD card for a Motorola I880?
[07:32] <bluefoxx> stefano_: lol, i think ill give it a go, whats the command?[i can handle a crash now and then, so long as im not downloading]
[07:32] <bluej774> Does anyone know how to go frame by frame in totem?
[07:33] <stefano_> bluefoxx, i don't know if it is available in gutsy, i use hard (which i wouldnt recommend to you at all, but i submit bug reports and all that)
[07:33] <tgcondor> nap time. l8rz all.
[07:33] <stefano_> bluefoxx, just wait until 8.04 comes, it will be brilliant
[07:33] <Alan_M> Bye! :)
[07:33] <souper> stefano_ may i ask what you're talking about?
[07:34] <stefano_> souper, i was talking about firefox 3
[07:34] <souper> oh
[07:34] <souper> yea its great
[07:34] <souper> i've been using rc3 for a couple weeks and haven't had a crash yet
[07:35] <bluefoxx> stefano_: will do that, until then, ill settel for printing to pdf lols
[07:35] <stefano_> souper, i have a lot of crashes espeially on youtube, but it's not tooo bad
[07:36] <stefano_> hehe
[07:36] <tritium> #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussions, please
[07:36] <souper> it's in the gutsy repos: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[07:37] <jaek_eee> i have a usb "control module" i'm trying to use... this is what my /var/log/message looks like when i plug it in
[07:37] <jaek_eee> http://pastebin.com/m67441b89
[07:37] <jaek_eee> anyone know what i have to do to make a new file in /dev/input/?
[07:37] <stefano_> the biggest change in FF3 is that pages are now rendered with usage of Cairo, which is absolutely awsome because it gives you nice looks (just like any app), good - hardware accellerated - anti aliasing and so on. i just love it, but i'm pretty sure i'm going to go back to epiphany when it has webkit
[07:37] <stefano_> jaek_eee, i don't think you would want to do that
[07:38] <stefano_> jaek_eee, doesn't seem to be a good idea. can you explain your problem further?
[07:38]  * Alan_M erases the ot I had planned.
[07:38] <jaek_eee> stefano_, the program i'm using requires a device file something like /dev/input/event0
[07:39] <jaek_eee> stefano_, but this "control module" doesnt seem to be a known device
[07:39] <stefano_> jaek_eee, what program is it?
[07:39] <jaek_eee> http://unfix.org/projects/empcd/
[07:39]  * stefano_ opens channel #private142 for arguing about technology
[07:39] <Alan_M> Good idea :)
[07:40] <stefano_> jaek_eee, what kind of device do you want to use to control empcd?
[07:40] <jaek_eee> it is a usb control module from the early 2000s, it has a play/pause/stop/volume/next/prev buttons
[07:41] <Alan_M> brb, gonna go check out the ubuntu beginner team forum and see what I can help with..bodhi_zazen keeps griping because im on the team and im not really helping cut down the unanswered posts.
[07:41] <jaek_eee> stefano_, but google doesnt yield much help... the model number is pmd-c001
[07:42] <stefano_> jaek_eee, i think the program expects the device to be found and ready to use, if you just make a file this file won't point to any device. try and see if you can find out if your control thingy was recognised and what the device file for it is, if you know that, either tinker with the program configuration or create a simlink to the device, but if your device hasnt been recognised, it is much more complicated
[07:44] <jaek_eee> stefano_, yes.... i need to get the right udev "rule" it seems so it knows about this uhci device
[07:44] <^A^kira> how do i turn on wireless on laptop troguh console?
[07:44] <bmz> is there an easy way to change the ubuntu apt repositories
[07:45] <Alan_M> system->administration->software sources might be helpful bmz
[07:46] <bmz> the one it set when I installed is slow, when it works at all
[07:46] <stefano_> jaek_eee, oh wow, i'm not into udev but i do know that it's incredibly complex. and ubuntu goes a very special route with udev rules, i dont think i can help you ad hoc, you might want to post your problem at the ubuntu forums. be sure to include lots of information. i hope that helps you
[07:46] <^A^kira> how do i turn on wireless on laptop troguh console?
[07:47] <stefano_> ^A^kira, why would you want to do that?
[07:48] <^A^kira> becouse i need internet on my laptop and i don't have any network managers installed... had fluxbuntu now installed kde without NM
[07:48] <CVD-PR> sup
[07:49] <stefano_> 'sup CVD-PR
[07:49] <bmz> is it just me or is  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com really slow?
[07:50] <Jaapjan-Work> ^A^kira: http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2006/12/ubuntu_configur.html ?
[07:50] <stefano_> bmz, could very well be, try to find a mirror nerby, i have one just down the street (not literally...) and it's much faster
[07:51] <souper> ok, i've been having this issue lately...
[07:51] <Alan_M> stefano, same here :)
[07:52] <Alan_M> im getting lightning speed
[07:52] <CVD-PR> stefano_, any way to know the last time i logon?
[07:52] <souper> i installed ubuntu into a single root partition and a swap partition and the swap was working fine and hibernating was working as well
[07:52] <bmz> stefano_: I am now using the main site. I just thought that if ubuntu selected that mirror for me and I am in Australia and it is not working reliably it might give people the wrong impression about ubuntu.
[07:53] <Alan_M> Ubuntu is based in South africa I believe?
[07:53] <Alan_M> I know mark is from there..just not sure about where canonical actually is.
[07:53] <stefano_> bmz that may be true, but for the most part the official mirrors are fairly fast, if you want to have uber speed - if you care, which most of those who would be frightened as you point out wouldt not - select a mirror nearby
[07:53] <stefano_> oh my god
[07:53] <souper> last week i resized and moved my root partition so i could have a separate home partition, this changed all the dev references for my partitions which caused some problems with grub but i managed to fix that
[07:54] <^A^kira> Jaapjan-Work> TNX!!! :)
[07:54] <souper> well the other day i noticed the computer wasn't hibernating
[07:54] <stefano_> i suddenly have a very loud noise in my right ear i need to do something about it
[07:54] <pppZero> how can i fake install a program so apt-get dosent try and install a conflicting dependancy? - i installed qmail by hand, now courier-imap wants to drag in postfix :|
[07:54] <Alan_M> Please try not to use enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <stefano_> CVD-PR, hang on
[07:54] <CVD-PR> k
[07:55] <stefano_> CVD-PR, open up a command and type "uptime"
[07:55] <bmz> au.archive.ubuntu.com is an official mirror and with me being in Australia it is the closest.
[07:55] <stefano_> CVD-PR, thats not exactly what you want i realise
[07:55] <souper> ok it's kinda a long winded story but i'll smash it together
[07:55] <CVD-PR> stefano_,  nop
[07:56] <Frogzoo> souper: there is a file that mentions which partition to use for suspend, whose name escape me
[07:57] <souper> would it be in /etc
[07:57] <souper> ?
[07:57] <up_the_irons> I have gutsy on my thinkpad t61, i just installed the latest kernel.  Used same .config as in /boot (that came with the system).  Now that i'm running the latest kernel, I no longer have sound support (only PC speaker).  Any tips?
[07:57] <stefano_> up_the_irons, just boot the old kernel until it gets fixed, you don't need the new kernel of anything particular do you?
[07:58] <up_the_irons> stefano_: i recompiled so i can get keyspan usb-to-serial support (which is not included w/ ubuntu).  I guess I could try a recompile with the older kernel
[07:59] <up_the_irons> stefano_: better qemu/kvm support would be nice though, thought it might work better with newer kernel
[07:59] <stefano_> up_the_irons, oh i see, than it seems that you didnt include all the required modules for your sound chip.
[07:59] <Alan_M> well boys n girls..fellow ubuntu enthusiasts and new users..im out! Remember, the forums are your friend if you don't get an answer here, check the forums ;)
[08:00] <stefano_> bye Alan_M
[08:00] <up_the_irons> stefano_: doesn't the config file included in /boot have the same config as the kernel that was running? (my older one)
[08:00] <up_the_irons> stefano_: this new kernel has LOTS of modules compiled it, almost everything enabled (took forever to compile)
[08:00] <stefano_> up_the_irons, you have to include those modules when you're compiling the kernel, /boot doesnt have anything to do with that.
[08:00] <up_the_irons> stefano_: i mean, not compiled into the kernel, but the modules are compiled
[08:01] <stefano_> up_the_irons, did you do all the configuration before compiling the kernel by hand?
[08:01] <up_the_irons> stefano_: well, the /boot/config-`uname -r` does include a file that i can use as .config in  my kernel source tree
[08:01] <pppZero> how can i stop apt-get from install unwanted dependencies?
[08:02] <up_the_irons> stefano_: the only thing i did by hand was enable Keyspan support, every else was left as it was in .config
[08:02] <CVD-PR> ?
[08:03] <up_the_irons> stefano_: all the other kernel modules seem to work
[08:03] <bluej774> Does anyone know of a program that can dump frames from video?  I can't find any that work.  I've already tried "dumpmpeg".
[08:03] <stefano_> up_the_irons, did you check your blacklists?
[08:03] <stefano_> bluej774, do you mean dump as in extract or as in remove?
[08:04] <bluej774> stefano_: I mean extract.
[08:04] <bluej774> Extract to a png or jpeg or bitmap format.
[08:04] <up_the_irons> stefano_: blacklists?
[08:04] <stefano_> bluej774, i think there is a program very similar to virtualdub for linux. but obviosly this wouldnt be so great if you want to exctract a lot and maybe script it
[08:05] <bluej774> stefano_: I just want to extract maybe 10 to 20 contiguous frames.
[08:05] <stefano_> up_the_irons, there is a blacklist for kernel modules that won't be loaded, i think it's /etc/blacklist or something like that, maybe your sound modules are listed there
[08:06] <stefano_> bluej774, allthough very gui-focused, maybe pitivi will do the job
[08:06] <up_the_irons> stefano_: but if that was the case, wouldn't sound not work on the old kernel also?
[08:07] <bluej774> stefano_: I'll give it a try.
[08:07] <pppZero> bluej774, transcode will do it, see http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/dvdauthor_howto_animenu.html for syntax to get yourself started :)
[08:07] <stefano_> up_the_irons, i don't know if it's integrated in any way with what kernel you boot.
[08:07] <up_the_irons> stefano_: ok
[08:08] <stefano_> up_the_irons, can't you get just a driver (like a kernel module) for this usb to serial converter that you would just enable with modprobe? would be way easier than building a custom kernel
[08:08] <bluej774> pppZero: Thanks.
[08:09] <souper> why is it that when i set my swap in the fstab by the UUID blkid gives me swapon -a gives me an error about no such file or directory
[08:10] <up_the_irons> stefano_: probably, but it's not available on keyspan's site, they say 'recompile the kernel'
[08:10] <stefano_> souper, you could have a problem with the swap partiton
[08:10] <souper> well when i set it by /dev/sda6 it works fine
[08:10] <up_the_irons> stefano_: they have kernel modules pre-built for other distros, but complain on their site that the debian/ubuntu distros didn't want to include their modules
[08:10] <stefano_> up_the_irons, thats too bad :( but you are not sure if you included all the right kernel bits and pieces for your sound are you?
[08:11] <souper> the problem is the hibernate script suspends to the disk by uuid
[08:11] <up_the_irons> stefano_: if you're interested: http://www.keyspan.com/downloads-files/developer/linux/
[08:11] <stefano_> hibernate is a pain :(
[08:11] <up_the_irons> stefano_: i think i figured it out
[08:11] <up_the_irons> stefano_: ubuntu includes it's own driver:
[08:11] <up_the_irons> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel
[08:11] <up_the_irons> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko
[08:12] <souper> and i'm not nearly experienced enough to understand shell scripts as complex as that
[08:12] <up_the_irons> stefano_: and it disables it in the regular kernel.  I guess I just need to go ahead and enable it.  But i'm worried if there's anything special ubuntu did, i'll lose that
[08:12] <stefano_> up_the_irons, oh is this a binary only driver?
[08:13] <stefano_> up_the_irons, try to type "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel" into a console and see if your sound suddenly works
[08:13] <stefano_> could be
[08:13] <up_the_irons> stefano_: i don't think so, i see the option to enable it in 'make menuconfig'
[08:13] <up_the_irons> stefano_: but ubuntu doesn't enable it, i guess in favor of it's own version
[08:13] <stefano_> up_the_irons, that's good, enable it and hope for the best
[08:14] <stefano_> up_the_irons, this kernel building business can really be a pain
[08:14] <up_the_irons> stefano_: yeah i'm going to try
[08:14] <up_the_irons> stefano_: for sure ;)
[08:14] <souper> up_the_irons: here's a shot in the dark but do you have a sound server like oss installed?
[08:15] <stefano_> up_the_irons, when i did it the first time, nothing would work. but it turned out that just waiting solved my issue (i needed some high-res tick stuff)
[08:15] <cpk1__> up_the_irons: you can use oldconfig when you recompile the kernel so you dont risk losing anything that was selected by ubuntu if thats what you are worried about
[08:15] <stefano_> thats a good tip
[08:15] <souper> snd                    54660  11 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[08:16] <souper> i use the same sound driver
[08:16] <[dcr]> Is there anyway to increase graphics hardware accelleration in Ubuntu?
[08:16] <souper> that's what lsmod gives me
[08:16] <stefano_> [dcr], what graphics card do you have?
[08:16] <cpk1__> and xconfig is pretty friendly for people new to kernel compiling
[08:16] <souper> and my sound has worked from the beginning
[08:16] <bluej774> pppZero: How can I use those commands, but specify a start and end point on what to dump?
[08:16] <[dcr]> stefano_: its just a intel gms 970 chipset =[
[08:17] <icesword> guys
[08:17] <[dcr]> but if theres a way to increase hardware acceleration i want to.
[08:17] <techt0nix> how can i install drivers for nvidia 5500 video card
[08:17] <stefano_> [dcr], does the 3d stuff work in general? (eg can you enable desktop effects)
[08:17] <CVD-PR> how to edit the classpath?
[08:17] <up_the_irons> cpk1: but this kernel was downloaded straight from kernel.org, it doesn't have a ubuntu specific 'oldconfig'
[08:17] <[dcr]> yes stefano_ i can
[08:17] <pppZero> bluej774, i honestly cant remember, its been a while since i played with videos :|
[08:18] <stefano_> techt0nix, open up the restricted drivers manager (or whatever it's called in the english i18n)
[08:18] <Jaapjan-Work> techt0nix: Or use/install Envy.
[08:18] <bluej774> pppZero: I just don't want to wait for it to dump the whole movie and use all of my hard drive to do it.
[08:18] <techt0nix> stefano, i have did both and the video card still will not boot with ubuntu
[08:18] <pppZero> bluej774, haha i dont blame you :)
[08:19] <up_the_irons> souper: i'm pretty sure the problem is my new kernel doesn't have Intel HD Audio module built
[08:19] <stefano_> [dcr], then there is not much you can do about it. i have the same graphics chip in my notebook and 3d accelleration is a little sluggish, thats just the way it is, i turned off desktop effects. (since then games are much faster)
[08:19] <d4rkmonkey> How do I mount an ISO in Ubuntu so that my computer will read it as if it were a disk?
[08:19] <Jaapjan-Work> d4rkmonkey: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[08:19] <m1r> d4rkmonkey: gmountiso
[08:19] <stefano_> d4rkmonkey, theres a program called something like gmount-iso (i'm not sure what the name is exactly) - but it will do the job without any command line hacking
[08:20] <d4rkmonkey> Thanks everyone
[08:20] <stefano_> youre welcome
[08:20] <souper> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/point
[08:20] <[dcr]> stefano_: ah because i have it on normal and i always have AWN turned off when i play urban terror but i only get about 15~45fps unstable in game =(
[08:20] <m1r> np
[08:20] <cpk1> up_the_irons: yeah i think its "make oldconfig" and it will tell the new kernel to use your old config and then you can go through and make more changes after importing your old config, its important to note though that the ubuntu kernel usually has support for most everything
[08:21] <stefano_> [dcr], thats normal. but here's a tip, set the resolution down as much as you can (without going nuts), that should increase framerate dramatically. but Urban Terror is a pretty demanding game
[08:21] <souper> oh yea that reminds me: how do i make my bash alias' permanent?
[08:21] <YazzY> hi guys
[08:21] <[dcr]> stefano_: you got any other recommendations on games for linux?
[08:21] <stefano_> hi YazzY
[08:21] <YazzY> i've some issues with hardy update from today
[08:22] <souper> knetwalk...
[08:22] <YazzY> i get lots of issues witrh free()
[08:22] <YazzY> *** glibc detected *** sudo: free(): invalid pointer: 0xb7d84b70 ***
[08:22] <Jaapjan-Work> [dcr] Get/check Cedega?
[08:22] <YazzY> any ideas what that is ?
[08:22] <up_the_irons> cpk1: where does the new kernel get the 'oldconfig' from though?
[08:22] <[dcr]> Jaapjan-Work: games that require windows i just use virtualbox lol..
[08:22] <stefano_> [dcr], sure. i like warsow, openarena and brutalchess, oh and also foobillard.
[08:22] <up_the_irons> cpk1: isn't it just /boot/config-`uname -r`
[08:23] <YazzY> fsck, i cant even sudo
[08:23] <YazzY> or su -
[08:23] <Frogzoo> YazzY: you tried booting recovery mode?
[08:24] <stefano_> [dcr], i just spent two weeks playing Peggle by popcap games, it costs about 20€ and runs well under linux (emulated with wine) - it's a lot of fun if you enjoy puzzle games, check it out at the popcap website
[08:24] <YazzY> Frogzoo: no, how would that help ?
[08:24] <nuknght> can someone please help me?
[08:24] <stefano_> [dcr], i tried to run Enemy Terretory, but it just doesnt run on intel graphics
[08:24] <Frogzoo> YazzY: it's your first step - to see if you can boot single user
[08:24] <stefano_> nuknght, sure, just tell us your problem
[08:25] <YazzY> Frogzoo: why would i see if i can boot single user mode?
[08:25] <YazzY> it doesnt make any sense
[08:25] <souper> i've been trying my damndest to get civilization 4 running in cedega but it always freezes after clicking the play now button on the main menu
[08:25] <tarelerulz> any of you try to stream movie or other media to the xbox 360 ?
[08:25] <nuknght> dell inspiron 7500, stuck at saving vesa state when trying to install any linux on new hdd
[08:25] <up_the_irons> cpk1: stefano_ : ok, sound now works, I loaded the newly built snd-hda-intel.ko
[08:25] <stefano_> tarelerulz, i thin some guys have got it running with VLC
[08:25] <stefano_> up_the_irons, thats great!
[08:26] <up_the_irons> stefano_: however, my thinkpad volume up/down buttons don't work.  i'm thinking maybe i should stick with the old kernel...
[08:26] <up_the_irons> stefano_: cuz this could turn into one little thing after another...
[08:26] <stefano_> up_the_irons, you can have both, if you have to use your converter, boot the custom kernel, otherwise boot  the old one
[08:26] <souper> try building a gentoo install
[08:26] <stefano_> don't ;)
[08:27] <stefano_> to install gentoo, you need a soldering iron and a very steady hand
[08:27] <stefano_> :>
[08:27] <souper> hah
[08:27] <nuknght> stefano_: I've tried ubuntu, ubuntu studio, xubuntu and freespire and they all get stuck at the same spot...
[08:27] <nuknght> left it on for 8 hours today just to be sure
[08:27] <d4rkmonkey> Alright, I can mount the ISOs fine, is there any way to make my computer think they're DVDs, because its looking at them like data CDs
[08:27] <up_the_irons> stefano_: yeah, but that's kinda a pain
[08:27] <nuknght> freepire comes up with multiple errors as well
[08:27] <stefano_> what spot is that nuknght
[08:28] <souper> i spent a week trying to install gentoo and finally gave up because i couldn't get the kernel modules just right
[08:28] <zingo>  Hi, How can I open/play an online "flash player"  streaming video , in my own video player like mplayer or vlc player , so that  I can watch it full screen etc. ??   I know that on some streaming content I can copy link and then paste that into my media player , but there is no "copy link" option in a flash streaming video content (for example this video: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/videopod/default.aspx ). Thanks
[08:28] <up_the_irons> stefano_: i might just have to go that route for now..
[08:28] <nuknght> Saving vesa state
[08:28] <stefano_> up_the_irons, how often do you have to use the serial converter?
[08:28] <bluej774> pppZero: I figured it out, but the program still has to start at the beginning of the file, so that sucks.
[08:28] <pppZero> bluej774, worked out how i did it last time, install avidemux, set A and B points, set it to COPY, and hit save, it'll just save the litle bit of video you want. then use transcode to convert the video into jpeg files.
[08:28] <up_the_irons> stefano_: not very often
[08:28] <pppZero> lol
[08:28] <bluej774> It just skips frames until it hits the ones you want.
[08:29] <souper> d4rkmonkey dvd's essentially are data cds
[08:29] <stefano_> up_the_irons, good, then booting your custom kernel every once in a while shouldnt be too bad
[08:29] <up_the_irons> stefano_: yeah
[08:29] <souper> try pointing your player to where its mounted
[08:29] <stefano_> nuknght, i don't think i fully understand it. what exactly do you mean by saving vesa state? is it somewhat like the standby mode?
[08:29] <up_the_irons> stefano_: regarding the keyspan drivers though, i do 'sudo modprobe keyspan', all i well, but i don't know which /dev/* to use.  Is there a way i can find that out programatically?
[08:30] <nuknght> no, its during the install after it mounts ?? (something) ....
[08:30] <vintage_12> hd'
[08:30] <stefano_> up_the_irons, run dmesg after you plugged it in, it will show you the information i think
[08:31] <up_the_irons> stefano_: oh ok
[08:31] <stefano_> nuknght, i see, do you have any special hardware? (like a raid controller or something like that)
[08:31] <up_the_irons> stefano_: let me try
[08:31] <nuknght> when i put freespire on my drive with xp and ran the live cd it loaded after the whole vesa state thing.  i popped my new hdd in and darn thing freezes up
[08:31] <legend2440> bluej774: avidemux also allows you to save the frame as jpg or bmp under File>Save
[08:31] <d4rkmonkey> souper, tried that, doesn't work.
[08:31] <Jaapjan-Work> d4rkmonkey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32203
[08:32] <nuknght> Its ati, came with the comp. tried to run in safe graphics mode and same thing happened
[08:32] <ATG> I'm having a bit of a weird issue with flash player
[08:32] <souper> will your player play dvd movies that you physically put in a drive?
[08:32] <up_the_irons> stefano_: ah, great, that worked: /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:32] <up_the_irons> stefano_: thanks for your help
[08:32] <ATG> whenever I try to view a live webcam link on Stickam, I can get audio, but no video
[08:32] <d4rkmonkey> souper, yup. I'll try what Jaapjan-Work sent
[08:32] <ATG> has this happened to anyone else?
[08:32] <stefano_> up_the_irons, youre welcome
[08:33] <stefano_> nuknght, that problem seems a bit heavy for an irc discussion, have you tried posting on the ubuntu forums? try to provide lots of information oh your hardware and what you did exactly
[08:34] <ATG> i'll take that as a no
[08:34] <nuknght> I just signed up but don't have enough permissions to post a bulletin in the forum yet......makes me want to go buy windows all over again
[08:34] <stefano_> ATG, what is Stickam?
[08:36] <EruditeHermit> hi, how do I enable middle click paste?
[08:36] <souper> it's like myspace but with webcams
[08:36] <stefano_> ATG, maybe installing a codec package can help, but this package is illegal in a lot of countries, try to find out more about it on google, we here are not exactly supposed to talk about this kind of thing
[08:37] <nuknght> i've been researching this for 4 days now and still nothing
[08:37] <stefano_> EruditeHermit, it should already be enabled
[08:37] <nuknght> any other channels you could lead me to would be helpful
[08:37] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: Have you tried booting with acpi=off noapic yet?
[08:38] <stefano_> nuknght, you should be allowed to post a new thread in the ubuntu forums, just select the right sub-forum and click "new thread" (or whatever it's called)
[08:38] <nuknght> I will try that
[08:38] <[dcr]> stefano_: well i dont know if i would run the enemy territory game cause it does look pretty graphics intense, but urban territory is kinda demanding but isnt bad either, runs pretty good other from that unstableness in the fps, but i am pretty okay with it :) I love free mmo's, especially fps =3
[08:39] <nuknght> jaapjan_work: no, i tried live vga=771 noapic nolapic
[08:39] <OsamaK> Hello! I'm trying to run Ubuntu 7.10 on a computer with Pentium D. It shows a black screen with a "loading mouse" for long time.. What to do?
[08:39] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: Do the live cd's work?
[08:40] <nuknght> yeah, I ran the test on em.  they are good
[08:40] <stefano_> OsamaK, do you know what graphics card you have?
[08:40] <OsamaK> Hum...
[08:40] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: I mean, can you boot with them? Or are you stuck even trying to run a live cd?
[08:40] <OsamaK> stefano_, At the moment I'm using Windows, Do you know how to know?
[08:41] <nuknght> stuck trying to run live cd.  as my post said earlier, freespire worked on my hdd with xp on it but i need it on my new hdd. to avoid buying windows
[08:41] <stefano_> OsamaK, no, i don't sorry, but when you boot up the cd it should offer you to boot in "safe graphics" mode, try that
[08:42] <OsamaK> stefano_, I have tried "noapic"
[08:42] <OsamaK> stefano_, Is this what are you meaning?
[08:42] <stefano_> OsamaK, no
[08:42] <stefano_> OsamaK, wait a second i will look it up
[08:43] <OsamaK> stefano_, Is "Intel(R)  946GZ Express Chipset Family" a screen card name?
[08:43] <OsamaK> Windows shows that
[08:43] <stefano_> OsamaK, oh good, your card is well supported in ubuntu
[08:43] <souper> yea that shouldn't be the problem
[08:43] <nuknght> jaapjan-Work: stuck trying to run live cd.  as my post said earlier, freespire worked on my hdd with xp on it but i need it on my new hdd. to avoid buying windows
[08:44] <stefano_> OsamaK, it is called "start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" try that
[08:45] <stefano_> I'm going to make some coffee chaps, I'll be right back
[08:45] <OsamaK> stefano_, Look at me. When I insert the CD it shows a list of works, then I seletct F6 then type "noapic irqpoll"
[08:45] <OsamaK> stefano_, Before going
[08:45] <stefano_> k
[08:46] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: I see a number of solutions but all of them already have linux installed. You have not yet, right?
[08:46] <stefano_> OsamaK, that's good, but instead of selecting the first item on the menu ("start or install ubuntu"), select the second one
[08:46] <OsamaK> stefano_, Then it's booting.. And before shows the disktop it shows a black screen with loing moise
[08:46] <stefano_> OsamaK, try the safe graphics mode, if it doesent work, you can always come back here, hope that helps
[08:47] <OsamaK> stefano_, Thanks a lot, have a nice day
[08:47] <OsamaK> see you all
[08:47] <stefano_> nice leave message
[08:47] <stefano_> :>
[08:48] <souper> yea i'm not entirely sure where the emphasis is supposed to be in that sentence
[08:49] <nuknght> no, no liux installed
[08:49] <nuknght> linux*
[08:50] <souper> Are you using Windows, the closed OS!?
[08:50] <stefano_> windows :( linux :D
[08:51] <stefano_> my coffee machine seems to be overclocked
[08:51] <stefano_> by the way, my TV runs linux on it, just found out
[08:51] <souper> make sure you have enough cooling
[08:51] <stefano_> hehe
[08:53] <stefano_> i'm starting to think that ATIs promise to open source their drivers was BS :(
[08:53] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: You never tried acpi=off ? Only noapic and nolapic? I found a page describing your problem.
[08:53] <nuknght> could you link me to that page?
[08:54] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: Sure. Some people report success with 'noacpi acpi=off apm=on' as kernel options because that/those dells do not have good acpi support.  :O
[08:57] <tunsell> hello
[08:57] <stefano_> hi tunsell
[08:58] <dela1> odo, rieccomi sul fisso
[08:58] <dela1> ho nuovamente schermata arancione sul portatile
[08:58] <stefano_> is anyone here using "pixel" (the image manipulation program)
[08:58] <souper> no
[08:59] <pfein> how do i config postfix to send all of my mail to one address?
[08:59] <stefano_> dela1, what language is that?
[08:59] <souper> italian?
[08:59] <dela1> quando ho fatto il comando suo/... init.d ... mi ha dato errore wireless (perhce scheda non presente, credo)
[08:59] <citra_cutez__> aLoow
[08:59] <stefano_> it's not italian
[09:00] <stefano_> i want to recommend the proper irc channel to him but i don't know how :>
[09:00] <stefano_> and which
[09:00] <souper> romanian?
[09:00] <dela1> odo, ci sei ancora?
[09:00] <ere4si> dela1, in english pls
[09:00] <citra_cutez> where is ????
[09:01] <Odo> dela1, please move in #ubuntu-it
[09:01] <souper> someone tracert his ip
[09:01] <dela1> ops sorry to everyone!
[09:03] <stefano_> i love swizerland
[09:03] <stefano_> lago maggiore, the finest spot on earth
[09:03] <Extend> what shall i write in my terminal to know which ubuntu version i'm running?
[09:04] <stefano_> Extend, nothing: just click "system" -> "about ubuntu"
[09:04] <Extend> from terminal
[09:04] <Extend> i'm sshing a server
[09:04] <nuknght> i got the progress bar but i don't know exactly what its doing...i will wait and see
[09:05] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: Then you indeed got further? Good.
[09:05] <nuknght> lol
[09:05] <stefano_> Extend, this is a bit dirty, but you could type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" if it says gutsy, you've got 7.10
[09:05] <TUplink> hi guys..... im having sound probs    i dont have /dev/dsp   where do i start   i have instaled alsa-base
[09:05] <nuknght> i hope, seriously 4 days of this ...first my dvd rom wouldn't work but i got that fixed
[09:05] <Extend> looooooool
[09:06] <Extend> stefano_ : you r using the easiest ways
[09:06] <Extend> thanks u for urhelp
[09:06] <Extend> but
[09:06] <stefano_> Extend, hehe :> not exactly but it should work for you i guess
[09:06] <Extend> i don't need this too ;)
[09:06] <Werdna> hey. I'm trying to set up my laptop running gutsy to connect to my new wireless network (old one worked fine), which uses DHCP (old used just MAC filtering). I'm not able to get an IP address (not receiving any DHCPOFFERs). I think it might be to do with an error that I get, ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] - Operation not supported. It's a laptop from c. 2003, so it may not support WPA. Where can I find out what the problem is?
[09:07] <Extend> yeah but i know there is a command line for it but i forgot it
[09:07] <stefano_> Extend, "uname -a" shows you the kernel version
[09:07] <nuknght> wholy crap, its loading!!!!!!! thanks tons jaapjan-work!
[09:07] <Extend> i used other linux distros when u type uname -a it give u the os name version ..etc
[09:07] <Extend> and the krnel i know
[09:07] <Extend> ..etc
[09:07] <Jaapjan-Work> nuknght: You're welcome. Best of luck!
[09:07] <nuknght> thanks
[09:08] <TUplink> i have always had sound probs with linux in general
[09:08] <stefano_> Extend, think of the distribution more as a bunch of programs than a package, how should it know what version it is :>
[09:08] <TUplink> my sound card isnt even in lspci
[09:08] <prince_jammys> Extend: lsb_release -a
[09:09] <Extend> you r realy a prince
[09:09] <Extend> thanks PriceChild  :)
[09:09] <stefano_> nice!
[09:09] <prince_jammys> is that what you wanted? i just showed up
[09:09] <OsamaK> stefano_, There?
[09:09] <stefano_> sure OsamaK
[09:09] <Johnuah> Nippon overwhelming.....
[09:10] <TUplink> haha might help if i had the audio controler enabled in the BIOS :P
[09:10] <souper> yea that would help
[09:10] <stefano_> TUplink, hehe :>
[09:10] <TUplink> haha
[09:10] <TUplink> i enabled the codec thinking it was the controler
[09:10] <TUplink> :P
[09:10] <OsamaK> stefano_, It takes long time, then it shows a brown backgrond and a normal mouse. Without any icons and anything else
[09:11] <souper> wow... i like how the screen brightens itself fully when it would normally dim after i adjust the brightness manually
[09:11] <stefano_> OsamaK, if you havent got much RAM, the ubuntu live cd might not work. if you want to install ubuntu anyway, you can use the "alternate cd", thats fairly easy, but you have to prepare your hard drive
[09:12] <stefano_> OsamaK, do you know how much RAM you have?
[09:12] <OsamaK> stefano_, I'm using Ubuntu in my laptop, it's working very well. This Computer is higher RAM than my laptop (1GB)
[09:12] <juuso[]> 50000
[09:13] <d0tk0m> Hi peeps, whats the safest way to install the latest kernel with the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:13] <\tsunade> risa
[09:13] <Johnuah> how long will EEEPC power on with out DC
[09:13] <souper> Osamak, you could try installing via the OEM text-based install
[09:13] <OsamaK> What's that?
[09:14] <Johnuah> Asus EEEpc
[09:14] <stefano_> OsamaK, well sorry, i don't know why it doesnt work then. but i would recommend that you download the "alternate cd" and use it to install ubuntu on that machine, that would work most certainly
[09:14] <stefano_> Johnuah, about two hours
[09:14] <OsamaK> stefano_, link?
[09:14] <souper> it's on the live cd one of the other boot options
[09:14] <TUplink> still no DSP tho
[09:14] <Johnuah> tks stefano
[09:14] <OsamaK> Is there a tornet file of it? stefano_
[09:15] <stefano_> OsamaK, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download there is a little checkbox below the green "start download" button, check this box to get the alternate cd
[09:15] <stefano_> OsamaK, yes there is, but i don't know where, you can just use a mirror near you that should be fairly fast
[09:16] <OsamaK> well, sorry for that
[09:17] <stefano_> OsamaK, did you get the link?
[09:17] <TUplink> anyways ALSA is sound drivers right?
[09:17] <OsamaK> yes
[09:17] <Linuxchix0r> Alsa is sound yes
[09:17] <stefano_> TUplink, no, alsa is the advanced linux sound architecture
[09:17] <OsamaK> I'm going
[09:17] <stefano_> bye OsamaK
[09:17] <OsamaK> see you later
[09:17] <TUplink> ok.... well how do i know what driver i need
[09:18] <OsamaK> BTW, stefano_. Is there a Tornet file?
[09:18] <Johnuah> could anyone give me a guide link of mail server installation based ubuntu server 710 with not only web browser but also pop3 & smtp
[09:18] <Linuxchix0r> the kernel should detect your sound card if its supported
[09:18] <TUplink> its an old mobo so im sure it should have drivers
[09:18] <stefano_> OsamaK, i don't know, you can search for it with google, there should be one, it should be named ubuntu-7.10-alternate something like that
[09:18] <OsamaK> stefano_, Thanks a lot. let me see you again
[09:19] <stefano_> sure
[09:19] <ugenk_> hi room
[09:19] <stefano_> TUplink, try to find out what kind of sound chip you have on your mainboard, then put the name of it plus the word ubuntu into google, that should give you a good idea on how to install it
[09:20] <stefano_> hi ugenk_
[09:20] <Johnuah> Need Guidiance: Mail Server, with web\pop3\smtp, ubuntu server 710          ???
[09:20] <Linuxchix0r> you might not need a driver so why try to install it
[09:20] <Viktorious> i cant install firefox 3
[09:20] <Viktorious> can someone help me
[09:20] <Viktorious> i want to install beta 4 of it
[09:21] <Linuxchix0r> viktorius I don't know if thats in the repository so you have to download it from Mozilla probably
[09:21] <stefano_> Viktorious, you should wait for the next version of ubuntu (next month), currently it's not very stable
[09:21] <stefano_> no it's in the repositories
[09:21] <Linuxchix0r> I don't know
[09:21] <Linuxchix0r> it just came out couple days ago
[09:21] <souper> it is in the repo
[09:21] <Viktorious> dsnt matter i still wanna use it now its hell fast
[09:21] <stefano_> Viktorious, open up synaptic and search for firefox and see if you can find the right packages there
[09:22] <Viktorious> i tryed it ddnt work
[09:22] <Viktorious> it wont update my version 2now
[09:22] <Johnuah> Need Guidiance: mail merver package, with web\pop3\smtp, ubuntu server 710
[09:22] <stefano_> Viktorious, you should wait for ubuntu 8.04
[09:22] <souper> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[09:22] <saqimtiaz> hey guys, I need some help with a Ubuntu 7.10 and Vista dual boot issue. I had an NTFS partition (X) that I was using in both, as of the last few days the partition is no longer accesible in vista, but works fine in Ubuntu. Vista always runs a chkdsk on it at startup and can see the files, but once booted cannot access the partition giving the error message: 'this drive or folder is corrupted and cannot be accessed'- Any ideas?
[09:22] <Viktorious> when does ubuntu 8.04 come out and what will change
[09:23] <Linuxchix0r> it comes out in april
[09:23] <souper> saqimtiaz i have the same exact problem
[09:23] <d0tk0m> will 8.04 have latest nvidia drivers?
[09:23] <stefano_> Viktorious, it will come out in april (04) 2008 (8), and it will rock :>
[09:23] <stefano_> yes
[09:23] <stefano_> almost
[09:23] <Viktorious> what will be so differnet about 8.04
[09:23] <saqimtiaz> souper: have you made any progress with figuring out what's going on?
[09:23] <aing> ?
[09:24] <aing> maneh didieu jir?
[09:24] <stefano_> Viktorious, it will have all the latest version of all the upstream software, better hardware support, basically everything will be even better. and it will include firefox 3 by default
[09:24] <souper> well i've found people saying that when gparted resized the ntfs partition it corrupted it because of the way vista stores data
[09:24] <souper> but i resized in vista first and i still have the problem
[09:25] <stefano_> souper, that sounds reasonable
[09:25] <Linuxchix0r> souper it might be messed up
[09:25] <stefano_> resizing a partition is always dangerous
[09:25] <ipe64> stefano_: is that hardy heron
[09:25] <stefano_> especially with vista
[09:25] <stefano_> ipe64, yes
[09:25] <Viktorious> ok kool but i wanna use firefox 3 now lol the beta  4 i used it on windows and luve it
[09:25] <saqimtiaz> souper, stefano_  thing is that my partition was working in both Vista and Ubuntu and stopped without fiddling with the partitions
[09:25] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, vista could have messed it up
[09:25] <souper> i've also read something about vista not liking being loaded by grub and that if you install the bootloader from the windows recovery environment it may work
[09:26] <stefano_> vista tends to mess things up
[09:26] <crshman> anyone know a good socks5 server implementation for ubuntu?
[09:26] <crshman> (i know about ssh tunnels, but that's not what i want to do)
[09:26] <stefano_> crshman, isnt socks5 pretty insecure?
[09:27] <crshman> well i'm not using it for security so i don't care
[09:28] <kamisalami> hi, how dow i find out what is using a certain module? want to unload it but it says it is in use. it is not in use by another module
[09:28] <souper> lsmod
[09:29] <saqimtiaz> I've got another bizzare question. I was messing around with Virtualbox and on restarting X got a HAL failure. When I rebooted, the laptops LCD would not switch on though the external monitor works. Now I know that sounds like a hardware problem but the timing is very suspicious. Any ideas?
[09:29] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, try to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it may help
[09:29] <souper> try the function key and f5
[09:30] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, do you have intel graphics?
[09:30] <saqimtiaz> souper: the fn key won't help.....
[09:30] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: nvidia
[09:30] <stefano_> mh
[09:30] <saqimtiaz> thing is the lcd won't turn on even for a second, not even to display the bios
[09:30] <stefano_> sounds tricky
[09:30] <stefano_> oh that does sound like a hardware problem indeed
[09:30] <saqimtiaz> so.... not sure how it could be Ubuntu related.. but figured I would ask because of the timing
[09:31] <souper> er not f5
[09:31] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: one more question if I may
[09:31] <saqimtiaz> souper: f4
[09:31] <souper> strike that not f5... i just put myself to sleep
[09:31] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, ask as many questions as you want
[09:31] <souper> yea that's what i meant
[09:31] <Viktorious> anyone some help with firefox 3 lol
[09:31] <stefano_> Viktorious, how does the problem show exactly?
[09:31] <Viktorious> does that mean firefox 3 release for windows will be out in april
[09:31] <Viktorious> it installs something but i check firefox and still version 2
[09:32] <Linuxchix0r> Viktorious, check your shortcut
[09:32] <stefano_> Viktorious, no, ubuntu is going to integrade the beta version of firefox, because it is a long term release
[09:32] <saqimtiaz> I'm trying to boot a live cd now, since I've royally broken my Ubuntu install. But right when it should start X the screen goes blank. Im guessing because it tries to use the internal lcd (which does not work) instead of the external monitor. Any ideas on how to get around that?
[09:32] <legend2440> Viktorious: System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[09:32] <legend2440> Settings - Repositories - Updates Tab
[09:32] <legend2440> Enable “Unsuportted Updates (gutsy-backports)“, close, and press RELOAD
[09:32] <souper> Viktorious you have to change the default webbrowser
[09:32] <techt0nix> how to find out what my video card driver is call?
[09:32] <techt0nix> the one that im running right now
[09:32] <Viktorious> to what
[09:32] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, even if the external monitor is not plugged in?
[09:32] <souper> run firefox-3.0 from the command line and watch
[09:33] <stefano_> Viktorious, no you don't have to change your default browser
[09:33] <tekknokrat> hi can someone tell me, where gdm/gnome looks for its language settings?
[09:33] <stefano_> yes Viktorious do what souper suggested
[09:33] <legend2440> Viktorious:  that will give you firefox 3 beta 3 in synaptics
[09:33] <Viktorious> then what do i do
[09:33] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: remember that the external monitor is the only one that works so it has to be plugged in
[09:33] <Linuxchix0r> Viktorious, check if you shortcut is pointing to the firefox beta and not firefox
[09:33] <Viktorious> i already installed that
[09:33] <Viktorious> how
[09:33] <souper> the firefox 3 doesn't install over the top of firefox 2
[09:33] <Linuxchix0r> doesn't install over but it could be pointing to firefox
[09:34] <aurehman_> hi.. how to check the video size in ffmpeg?
[09:34] <techt0nix> how to find out what my video card driver is call? (the one im running right now)
[09:34] <souper> type firefox-3.0 in the command line to run it
[09:34] <Viktorious> i havt the firefox tar.bz2 on my desktop how do i nistall it
[09:34] <stefano_> tekknokrat, when you log in, there are two buttons, one is called session and the other one should be language or something like that, there you can select the language you want that session to be in, it also asks you if you want to make that language default. if your language doesnt apear in that list, you need to install the corresponding packages
[09:34] <souper> you didn't do it via apt-get?
[09:34] <stefano_> Viktorious, don't use the tar.gz it tends to mess things up
[09:35] <Viktorious> thats how it told me to do it coz i did the package one and said updates done and nuting
[09:35] <stefano_> Viktorious, if you installed it from synaptic, it should be in your menu (as a seperate entry) - it doesnt upgrade your firefox 2 but installed ff3 aditionally
[09:35] <saqimtiaz> anyone else have any ideas on how to use a Live cd, when the internal LCD on a laptop is busted and the external monitor works?
[09:35] <tekknokrat> stefano_: the problem ist that i tried that and other things too, but the language doesn't switch to german and keeps in english
[09:35] <souper> Viktorious if you type firefox-3.0 in the command line does it open?
[09:35] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, i think you should contact your notebook manufacturers support hotline tbh
[09:36] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: the laptop is going back for service but I want to data recovery first
[09:36] <stefano_> tekknokrat, do you have the german language packs installed?
[09:36] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: hence the wish to boot off a live cd
[09:36] <tekknokrat> stefano_: my goal is to have gnome applications in german language, again
[09:36] <[dcr]> g'bye stefano_
[09:36] <Viktorious> gecko:6841): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "aurora",
[09:36] <stefano_> saqimtiaz, most laptop support comapnies will allow you to take the hard drive out
[09:37] <Viktorious> thats what happen asnd the gran paradiso opens
[09:37] <tekknokrat> stefano_: yes
[09:37] <techt0nix> can someone tell me how to find out what my video card driver is call? (the one im running right now)
[09:37] <saqimtiaz> stefano_: interesting. I might have to try that. thanks!
[09:37] <tekknokrat> stefano_: gnome, kde language packs and language-support
[09:37] <stefano_> tekknokrat, you are using ubuntu 7.10 right?
[09:38] <^A^kira> i used fluxbuntu, now removed fluxbox and installed kdm and kde, when i turn on my pc i see only blue kde background....
[09:38] <^A^kira> how to fix it?
[09:38] <tekknokrat> stefano_: sry missed that, yes gutsy/amd64
[09:38] <stefano_> ^A^kira, that doest soind wrong
[09:38] <stefano_> tekknokrat, wait a second, i look something up
[09:38] <ere4si> techt0nix, in a terminal type   lspci   and it will be listed
[09:38] <fjimenez> noticias diario sur
[09:39] <tekknokrat> stefano_: ok
[09:39] <saqimtiaz> brb, rebooting
[09:39] <stefano_> tekknokrat, see if this article helps you: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spracheinstellungen
[09:40] <stefano_> tekknokrat, especially the language-pack-gnome-de part
[09:40] <techt0nix> ere4si, i take it its Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE right?
[09:40] <ingo> can anyone help me mount my externel usb-disk via fstab in gutsy - entry "/dev/sdg1	/media/usb_disk ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,user=myuser 0 0" doesn't work
[09:40] <^A^kira> stefano_> what could be wrong?
[09:41] <ere4si> techt0nix, maybe not - 1 min
[09:41] <stefano_> ^A^kira, you said you installed kde, and now you have a kde background - that sounds pretty normal to me, don't you think?
[09:41] <ingo> mount: only root can mount /dev/sdg1 on /media/usb_disk
[09:41] <ere4si> techt0nix, it will have vga in the line
[09:41] <souper> ingo type sudo before the command
[09:41] <^A^kira> yeah... but i have no kicker, no menu and nothing else except of kde bckground
[09:42] <techt0nix> ere4si, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
 but its an entry in my fstab
[09:42] <stefano_> ^A^kira, oh! :O i see, try installing the package kubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <ere4si> ^A^kira, fluxbuntu is based on ubuntu but is not an *buntu
[09:42] <techt0nix> ere4si, can i PM you?
[09:42] <stefano_> ^A^kira, maybe some bits are missing, this package should install _everything_ that kde needs
[09:42] <ere4si> techt0nix, yep that's it
[09:42] <tekknokrat> stefano_: I tried everything done in this article i also switched to gnome to see if it is a kde problem because i use kde mainly
[09:43] <^A^kira> stefano_> can't... it'll take too much time and... i did installed kde kore...
[09:43] <souper> ingo, and you see that error message when exactly?
[09:43] <^A^kira> untill i installed kdm it did work fine
[09:43] <ere4si> techt0nix, in the channel others may benefit
[09:43] <techt0nix> ere4si, just one more question im trying to add the driver to blacklist so do i put  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[09:43] <stefano_> tekknokrat, did you tell kde to use german as your primary language? (at the " Land/Region & Sprache" panel)
[09:44] <ere4si> techt0nix, why blacklist?
[09:44] <stefano_> ^A^kira, thats not enough appearantly
[09:44] <martin007> hi ... I installed compiz-fusion from GIT, but then I don't run Opera : opera: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[09:44] <martin007> please help me
[09:44] <tekknokrat> stefano_: of course,  that was first thing i have done, i also installed qt-language-selector
[09:44] <ingo> the error message by double-click on "usb_disk"-icon is "Unable to mount the selected volume. mount: only root can mount /dev/sdg1 on /media/usb_disk"
[09:44] <ipe64> ^A^kira: try a new user it sometimes works for me
[09:44] <ere4si> techt0nix, that will be the i810 driver I think - that's what you will need to blacklist
[09:45] <souper> have you restarted since adding the fstab entry?
[09:45] <ingo> i will mount the usb-disk via fstab
[09:45] <techt0nix> ere4si, i think my linux is trying to load up 2 video cards and i can only boot with my onboard video card (i'm thinking this may help me get my nvidia 5500 to boot ubuntu)
[09:45] <stefano_> tekknokrat, that sounds very strange. i don't think it is too easy to fix. maybe you want to post a new thread in the ubuntuusers.de forums, thats generally a good idea if you have a compliated problem
[09:45] <ere4si> techt0nix, you will need to disable the onboard video from the bios
[09:45] <d0tk0m> How do I format a brand new SATA HD?
[09:46] <techt0nix> ere4si, yes but many others told me to also blacklist it
[09:46] <stefano_> d0tk0m, use the program "gparted"
[09:46] <alanbshepard70> ubuntu won't recognize my PCI wireless adapter even though it's installed (properly). I know the card works and I've already installed ndiswrapper and the needed drivers for the card. ndisswrapper -l reports a proper driver and that the device is present but iwconfig and network manager don't show any type of wlan device.
[09:46] <d0tk0m> k, k3wl
[09:46] <tekknokrat> stefano_: Hm, I have found an open thread there with similar problem, and the supporters gave up
[09:46] <stefano_> tekknokrat, wow that's very strange
[09:47] <tekknokrat> stefano_: so my initial question is what env variable does gnome uses to check the language?
[09:47] <techt0nix> ere4si, when i go to screens and graphics it shows 2 diff drivers my nvidia and my onboard on 2 diff monitors
[09:47] <alanbshepard70> Sorry, that was supposed to have a question, anyone know the fix?
[09:47] <ere4si> techt0nix, did they mention the driver name - from what I know it is the i810 driver
[09:47] <stefano_> tekknokrat, i think it's called LANG and the appropreate value should be de_DE@euro
[09:47] <ingo> can anyone help me mount my externel usb-disk via fstab in gutsy - entry "/dev/sdg1	/media/usb_disk ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,user=myuser 0 0" doesn't work
[09:48] <stefano_> tekknokrat, open up a terminal and type locale
[09:48] <matthew_> I just installed hardy alpha 6.  worked fine.  I updated and it killed my system...
[09:48] <ere4si> techt0nix, have you done   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:48] <stefano_> tekknokrat, and see if the results match the ones on the wiki page
[09:48] <techt0nix> ere4si, yes but i can only do that on my onboard video card
[09:48] <tekknokrat> stefano_: my locale only looks LANG=de_DE
[09:48] <matthew_> can't log in on text console or anything... also rescue boot won't starta root shell.
[09:48] <matthew_> I think it is a libc thing
[09:48] <souper> i don't know why you would have to add that fstab entry
[09:48] <stefano_> tekknokrat, that looks fine
[09:48] <ere4si> techt0nix, one min
[09:48] <souper> my usb-disk mounts fine without it
[09:48] <techt0nix> ere4si, when i try to boot with my nvidia card it just hangs and i have to do a cold shutdown
[09:48] <souper> that's very strange
[09:49] <stefano_> tekknokrat, there is a section in the wiki page called "Systemweite Änderung", did you try to do all that stuff?
[09:49] <techt0nix> ere4si, i have google.com my problem and tryed everything but this blacklist, so i figured why not try it..
[09:50] <tekknokrat> stefano_: hm, yes i think this is the old way of doing locale thing result is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>up-to-date
[09:51] <stefano_> tekknokrat, 8859 is not exactly up to date
[09:51] <ere4si> techt0nix, I can only suggest that it is the driver you need to blacklist - am reading stuff on it
[09:51] <^A^kira> how to add kicker to autorun at kde?
[09:51] <stefano_> could someone try this webpage for me: http://www.pokertube.com it just doesnt work on all my ubuntu computers
[09:51] <ingo> can anyone help me mount my externel usb-disk via fstab in gutsy, please ??
[09:51] <^A^kira> *where to add kick that it'll be autorun at kde?
[09:52] <tekknokrat> stefano_: i just tried with only de_DE (without euro) and it generates 8859-1
[09:53] <souper> ls -a ~/.kde i forgot the actual name of the file but i'm pretty sure it's in there
[09:53] <souper> i haven't used kde in a while
[09:53] <tekknokrat> stefano_: do you have ubuntu running and if can you look if locales shows LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 for yours?
[09:53] <stefano_> sure
[09:53] <zod_> is it any good dvd progs for Linux?
[09:54] <stefano_> tekknokrat, LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[09:54] <CaBa|> zod_: i use VLC from the medibuntu repository
[09:55] <zod_> some of my dvd (eks the simpsons sessong 7) dont work there
 i made the subdir "/media/usb_disk" as user root - my fstab-entry is "/dev/sdg1	/media/usb_disk ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,user=ingo 0 0"
[09:55] <stefano_> tekknokrat, i',m sorry i don't have any more ideas :\
[09:55] <CaBa|> zod_: do you use the medibuntu version?
[09:55] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: what are you trying to do?
[09:55] <techt0nix> ere4si, when adding i810 to blacklist do i just put it on the last line?
[09:55] <tekknokrat> stefano_: ok i'll try to get de_DE.UTF-8
[09:56] <zod_> yes, something about that i dont have the license to watch the dvd
[09:56] <stefano_> tekknokrat, hope it works :O
[09:56] <zod_> any one know if ogle works good?
[09:56] <ere4si> techt0nix, yep
[09:56] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: my gnomeapps are all in english but kde is german all langpacks installed
[09:56] <techt0nix> when adding something to black list to i just put it on the last line as (I.E blacklist i810)
 i don't know if sdg1 is the right device - how can i see it???
[09:57] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: and you want everything in german?
[09:57] <techt0nix> ere4si, when adding something to black list to i just put it on the last line as (I.E blacklist i810)
[09:57] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: goal is to have german for packages like gdm,gimp, tomboy again
[09:57] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: what ubuntu version?
[09:57] <ingo> evil evil
[09:58] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: gutsy/amd64
[09:58] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: did you try to set the locales in /etc/environment? LANG and LC_ALL?
[09:58] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: yes
[09:58] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: did you reboot?
[09:59] <souper> ingo ls /media and see what's listed there
[09:59] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: they look the same like /default/locale
[09:59] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: well did you reboot?
[09:59] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: not today, but yesterday i also tried with several reboots
[09:59] <set_out> no
[09:59] <stefano_> tekknokrat, uh, are you using KDE4?
[10:00] <set_out> ubuntu
[10:00] <tekknokrat> CaBa|: I tried  also language-env
 this shows my device-folders - but i don't know if /dev/sdg1 is the right device ...
[10:00] <set_out>  language-env
[10:00] <set_out> nothing
[10:01] <tekknokrat> stefano_: no its still kde 3.5
[10:01] <CaBa|> tekknokrat: when you open a terminal in gnome, does locale display DE or EN?
[10:01] <stefano_> tekknokrat, okay, because your forum post said kdm-4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2
[10:01] <ChevronX> Hey guys - When starting I am getting this error: Refusing to initialize GTK+.
[10:01] <ChevronX> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[10:01] <ChevronX> touch: cannot touch `/tmp/session-is-gnome': Permission denied
[10:01] <ChevronX> mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied
[10:02] <tekknokrat> stefano_: hm, which thread?
[10:02] <ChevronX> Anyone know how I can repair this?
[10:02] <tekknokrat> stefano_: i tried kdm4 when it was released in january
[10:02] <CaBa|> ChevronX: is your harddisk full?
[10:03] <ChevronX> no
[10:03] <stefano_> tekknokrat, maybe your packages got mixed up.
[10:03] <CaBa|> ChevronX: did you mess anything with your /tmp folder? :P
[10:03] <ChevronX> Yes :-(
[10:03] <bazhang> quakky_: you ever find any #alsa folks awake?
[10:03] <ChevronX> I deleted everything inside there
[10:04] <ChevronX> thinking it was safe too.. I was wrong
[10:04] <CaBa|> ChevronX: well in that case... did you try to reboot?
[10:04] <try1> Im experiencing extremely slow performance on a Dell PE1800 with e1000 - 3mbit on a 1000mbit network. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
[10:04] <tekknokrat> stefano_: na i am using kdm-4:3.5.8  which means version 3.5.8
[10:04] <ChevronX> Yes; I have restarted several times.
[10:05] <CaBa|> ChevronX: what does 'ls -ld /tmp/' say?
[10:05] <ChevronX> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2008-03-13 23:01 /tmp/
[10:05] <CaBa|> ChevronX: you even changed the permissions!!
[10:06] <tekknokrat> stefano_: but you're right i will remove kde/gnome completely and try to reinstall stepbystep
[10:06] <ChevronX> Arh didn't know that. I had copied a command in
[10:06]  * ChevronX slaps myself
[10:06] <stefano_> tekknokrat, you could try to just install the package kubuntu-desktop without removing something beforehand
[10:07] <prince_jammys> drwxrwxrwt 14 root root 4096 2008-03-13 04:47 /tmp
 Is there anything I can do to repair this?
[10:07] <CaBa|> ChevronX: yes, stand by... i dont know how to restore the tmp-bit at the moment
[10:07] <prince_jammys> make it writable
[10:07] <tekknokrat> stefano_: never done this :) do you think it will add something missing in my installation?
[10:07] <prince_jammys> +t i think
[10:07] <CaBa|> prince_jammys: yes, tmp is 777, but you need the t-bit as well
[10:07] <stefano_> tekknokrat, yes possibly
[10:07] <ChevronX> chown +t /tmp/?
[10:08] <souper> chmod
[10:08] <prince_jammys> let me check
[10:08] <faisal_d> +t?
[10:08] <CaBa|> ChevronX: yes
[10:08] <CaBa|> ChevronX: chmod 777 /tmp; chmod +t /tmp
[10:08] <CaBa|> ChevronX: that will do the job
[10:08] <prince_jammys> there you go
[10:08] <ChevronX> Awesome
[10:08] <ChevronX> It worked
[10:08] <ChevronX> drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4096 2008-03-13 23:01 /tmp/
[10:08] <prince_jammys> done
[10:09] <CaBa|> ChevronX: looks good again ;)
[10:09] <ChevronX> You guy's are awesome
[10:09] <ChevronX> Im going to attempt to restart again.
[10:09] <tekknokrat> stefano_: ok, i'll try that first
[10:09] <waltterilepisto> lampo
[10:09] <ChevronX> Anything else I need to do before I do do you think? or I should be ok?
[10:09] <waltterilepisto> moihalooooooo
[10:09] <tekknokrat> stefano_: thank you for your help!
[10:10] <CaBa|> ChevronX: just reboot
[10:10] <stefano_> tekknokrat, youre welcome
[10:10] <ChevronX> Thanks alot :-)
[10:10] <waltterilepisto> fac yuo
[10:10] <tekknokrat> stefano_: ok, see you later :)
[10:10] <Goundy> Heya all
[10:10] <Goundy> When you apt-get java where does it put the jre ?
[10:10] <syntax_semantics> Hiya
[10:10] <Goundy> unable to find the path :/
[10:10] <CaBa|> Goundy: 'type java'
[10:10] <waltterilepisto> hei iekö  teist mulkuis oo ketää suoma laine
[10:11] <CaBa|> Goundy: and then follow the symlinks
[10:11] <CaBa|> Goundy: on my gutsy system its /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/
[10:11] <souper> locate java
[10:11] <syntax_semantics> Onko totta, että suomalaisessa jouluperinteessä joulupukki oli lapsia syövä villisika?
[10:11] <ere4si> waltterilepisto, in english pls
[10:11] <Goundy> CaBa|, thanks :D
[10:11] <dneary> Hi
[10:12] <ArthurArchnix> !fi
[10:12] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:12] <waltterilepisto> fuck you
[10:12] <dneary> I have an Ubuntu on PPC problem - anyone around using 7.04 or 7.10 on a Mac?
[10:12] <ArthurArchnix> !ops | waltterilepisto
[10:12] <dgjones> !ops | waltterilepisto
[10:12] <ubotu> waltterilepisto: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[10:12] <CaBa|> waltterilepisto: you dont have anything better to do?
[10:12] <waltterilepisto> ok
[10:12] <dneary> In particular, it's a dual boot, and yaboot got over-written
[10:12] <dneary> I'd like to know how to restore it the easiest way possible
[10:13] <syntax_semantics> I'm using 7.04 on a Mac but mine is Intel
[10:13] <tekknokrat> stefano_: ah do you mean this thread, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/157503
[10:13] <dneary> Obviously, I don't want to overwrite the Ubuntu install that's there already
[10:13] <dneary> Is an install CD the best solution?
[10:13] <tekknokrat> stefano_: perhaps it is related with this problem, but i had it also running for a while with the affected line commented out...
[10:15] <rahuene> czesc
[10:15] <souper> #ubuntu-cz right guys?
[10:15] <techt0nix> ere4si, im guess that was not the driver because it is still blacklisted and im on my onboard video card
[10:15] <dgjones> !cz | rahuene
[10:15] <Ergo^> guys is there any gui that would be suitable to control bandwidth?
[10:15] <ubotu> rahuene: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[10:15] <rahuene> Hi
[10:17] <yjyjifd> hi
[10:17] <yjyjifd> bye
[10:18] <ere4si> techt0nix, shouldn't be if it was disabled in the bios and you dpkg'd the xserver - asuming that was the correct driver
[10:18] <dneary> Found!
[10:18] <techt0nix> ere4si, right im asuming its the wrong driver
[10:18] <dneary> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/25515
[10:19] <dneary> The suggestion to hold Alt during startup to choose the boot disk worked like a charmù
[10:19] <ere4si> techt0nix, if you dpkg the xserver it will tell you the driver it is using - so blacklist that one if you don't want it used
[10:20] <techt0nix> X server driver just says Intel
[10:21] <yjyjifsdf> bye
[10:21] <techt0nix> so just blacklist intel?
[10:21] <ere4si> techt0nix, then the line   blacklist intel   goes in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:21] <techt0nix> ere4si, ok i will try that
[10:21] <ere4si> k
[10:22] <Ezicc> hi all, i'm new but will try not to be noobish
[10:23] <bazhang> ask away Ezicc ;]
[10:24] <Shoopuf> Can I upgrade to PulseAudio if I install 7.10, or do I have to wait for the next version of Ubuntu?
[10:24] <Ezicc> I've dual booted a mac mini + ubuntu 7.1, installed fedora and got a wiki running so my internal network can view it and everything is good :)
[10:24] <Ezicc> but...
[10:25] <Ezicc> i'm struggling to get our main network shared drive to mount
[10:26] <bazhang> Shoopuf: you mean pull some hardy into gutsy? like that?
[10:26] <Ezicc> it's a windows network, with small business server, the network share is on the server, I've googled mounting network shares but can't find anything relevant to my situation
[10:27] <Shoopuf> bazhang: Yah, my Internet is quite slow so downloading 8.04 would take a while, hoping to upgrade from 7.10 to ALPHA if possible. :P
[10:27] <bazhang> Shoopuf: you want to meet me in #ubuntu+1 ? ;]
[10:30] <ks3> Ezicc: You're trying to mount a Windows share?
[10:30] <Ezicc> yes
[10:31] <ks3> Ezicc: Okay. I just came in, so I might have missed some stuff.... have you tried mount.cifs?
[10:31] <ichat> Good morning all, - im looking for some really helpfull information about installing ubuntu - with either braille or Speech support- i was told that ubuntu is rather ahead of others about this,  and i would love to learn about about this (so i could start on learning howto help others -
[10:33] <dgjones> ichat, although I've not used it, there is this page about text to speech that may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[10:33] <Joelio> hey guys, getting a 403 Forbidden from archive.ubuntu.com when trying to do an upgrade (heron)
[10:34] <Joelio> any info?
[10:34] <micadeyeye> i get error because my program does write or read from /tmp dir.?
[10:34] <micadeyeye> how can i fix this?
[10:34] <zod_> when is the new ubuntu verson released?
[10:34] <dgjones> zod_, Its due towards the end of April
[10:34] <bazhang> next month zod_ discussion in #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <micadeyeye> should i use chmod 777 /tmp????
[10:35] <dneary> ichat: I am not sure that the installer is accessible right now - but I may be behind the times.
[10:35] <ks3> micadeyeye: /tmp should have 1777
[10:35] <zod_> is it stable the new verson, or wait some days before install?
[10:35] <micadeyeye> but i don't wanna screw things up
[10:35] <Polishpaul> hey fellas, i got my laptop setup with ubuntu, when i plug in my headphones, the sound does not come through - any thoughts?
[10:35] <micadeyeye> ks3 so i should use chmod 1777 /tmp???
[10:36] <micadeyeye> ks3: so i should use chmod 1777 /tmp???
[10:36] <dgjones> Joelio, Could be that the repo is down at the minute, I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu+1 with you querying about the Alpha version of Hardy
[10:36] <geirha> micadeyeye: that is correct
[10:36] <zod_> how to get all hardware devices drivers in ubuntu installed?
[10:37] <ichat> dgjones:  - ty for the link, - ill start reading it, -  - i have lots of people that are blind (or near to it), and who want to explore linux too,  yet its rather hard - to support it as im (sadly to say) not a real guru (yet),
[10:37] <ks3> micadeyeye: If it doesn't have that mode already, yes. If you do 'ls -dl /tmp', it should show as drwxrwxrwt
[10:37] <micadeyeye> thnaks, that reminds me, each time i hibernate my IBM R52 laptop AND RELOAD, I lose sound
[10:37] <geirha> zod_: 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon was realeased 2007, month 10. 8.04 Hardy Heron will be released 2008, month 04
[10:37] <Joelio> dgjones: I've just changed my sources to gb.archive.. (it was archive..). Working now.. presume they'll fix upstream
[10:37] <zod_> ah i see
[10:38] <dgjones> ichat, you're welcome, there are some other text to speech app's I've heard mention of, but I can't rememeber what they were called, somebody else may know the answer though
[10:38] <micadeyeye> why?
[10:41] <ProbeDot> i need to connect to it via internet, i have 50 xp stations connected to a 2003 server using roaming profiles (desktop,my documents,registery,etc are stored on the server), the internet gateway is the centos server, so i have a local network with local ip's and the internet network with the internet ip,
[10:41] <ProbeDot>  the problem is that i need a laptop using a internet conection to connect to the local area network via internet, i need all windows networking features available, somehow, that laptop must endup connected to the lan with a lan ip
[10:41] <geirha> micadeyeye: the sound drivers probably can't handle the suspend. It's usually fixed by telling acpi to unload the module before suspending, and reload it after the system is back
[10:42] <geirha> micadeyeye: you do this by editing /etc/default/acpi-support, and add the sound driver module to the MODULES="" variable
[10:44] <ere4si> ProbeDot, a windows server question here?
[10:44] <geirha> ProbeDot: sounds like you should read up on VPN
[10:46] <micadeyeye> ks3: can i use chmod 1777 /tmp/*?? cause i want all files to have xrw
[10:46] <zod_> what program do i use/ get to detect and fix bugs in ubuntu?
[10:46] <ProbeDot> geirha i need to connect a laptop in austria to a local area network in france
[10:46] <ProbeDot> so that the laptop access al network resources of the lan in france, i want the laptop to act as a workstation in the lan, both laptop and lan have internet access, lan has one public ip, laptop same
[10:47] <Joelio> ouch, maybe I shouldn't have done an upgrade... glibc is dead :'( - apt's now broken
[10:47] <bazhang> Joelio: in Hardy?
[10:47] <micadeyeye>  can i use chmod 1777 /tmp/*?? cause i want all files to have xrw
[10:47] <Joelio> yea
[10:47] <geirha> ProbeDot: that's what VPN does.
[10:47] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for the workaround Joelio
[10:47] <Joelio> any ideas what I can do.. only the running processes are working..
[10:48] <micadeyeye>  can i use chmod 1777 /tmp/*?? cause i want all files to have xrw
[10:48] <ProbeDot> geirha i don't want to move the entire existing lan to vpn, that will take weeks
[10:48] <geirha> micadeyeye: you shouldn't do that. The files in /tmp/ should be owned and only readable/writable by their creators
[10:48] <hischild> !repeat | micadeyeye
[10:48] <ubotu> micadeyeye: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:48] <Joelio> live cd, chroot, rerun apt-get update and hope that they've fixed it?
[10:48] <micadeyeye> thanks
[10:49] <geirha> ProbeDot: ok, but I don't know of any other way to do it
[10:49] <Polishpaul> do you have to somehow redirect audio output to the headphone jacks?
[10:49] <ProbeDot> geirha ic.
[10:49] <bazhang> Joelio: this is the wrong channel for Hardy discussion
[10:49] <Joelio> bazhang: what is the correct one, ta
[10:49] <karanga> !patience
[10:49] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:50] <Polishpaul> ouch.. i found the headphone switch...
[10:50] <bazhang> Joelio: you can scroll up a few lines?
[10:50] <Joelio> ta
[10:51] <bastid_raZor> where would i look to see a gnome error log?
[10:51] <minimec> Joelio: /join #ubunutu+1  ;)
[10:51] <hischild> ProbeDot_, afaik VPN allows you to connect to your local network via internet and gain a local ip using it, thus granting you local access to your network
[10:52] <Damie> can you download the html document and read them off line
[10:53] <bazhang> Damie: including all the links, or only that one page
[10:53] <Damie> all links
[10:53] <zod_> is it any mediacenter in Linux (ubuntu 7.10) simular to the microsoft mediacenter?
[10:55] <ProbeDot_> geirha i never used vpn before. need guidance
[10:56] <jordi_ubuntu> hi, my english is bad, any person speak spanish
[10:56] <ere4si> !es
[10:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:56] <jordi_ubuntu> thank you
[10:56] <ere4si> k
[10:56] <smokeyd> hey people. Which browser is still quite good on Ubuntu but a littlebit lighter than firefox?
[10:57] <ere4si> epiphany smokeyd
[10:57] <smokeyd> ok, thanks ere4si
[10:57] <ProbeDot_> geirha i never used vpn before. need guidance, i use centos
[10:57] <ere4si> k
[10:58] <ere4si> !topic | ProbeDot_
[10:58] <ubotu> ProbeDot_: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:58] <bazhang> ProbeDot_: how does ubuntu enter into this?
[10:59] <dennis-> hey folks
[11:00] <geirha> ProbeDot_: I don't have much experience with setting up vpn myself, mostly just from the client side. Have a read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vpn
[11:00] <ProbeDot_> geirha ic.. ok
[11:00] <ProbeDot_> geirha thanks!:)
[11:00] <sureshot> hey what is the paths to extensions dirfor the loadable extensions that one should use in php.ini
[11:01] <cpk1> anyone ever use ebox and know if the firewall tools with it are adequeate enough to run as a router or if it can be configured to work with shorewall?
[11:01] <ProbeDot_> geirha pm?
[11:01] <sureshot> where the php extensions(modules) reside?
[11:01] <dennis-> what is the easiest way to upgrade vom dapper to gutsy?
[11:02] <dennis-> do it the dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy way, or just go from dapper to gutsy?
[11:02] <sureshot> the etc is only for config files i think and in php dir there is just some config-files
[11:02] <sureshot> where is the programm folder?
[11:02] <bazhang> dennis-: wait a few weeks and do a straight shot from dapper to Hardy
[11:03] <Frogzoo> dennis-: reinstall
[11:03] <Frogzoo> ok, bazhang's idea's better
[11:03] <bazhang> dennis-: LTS to LTS in one easy step ;]
[11:03] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; nice, glad to hear they got the LTS to LTS working
[11:03] <benpicco> htop
[11:03] <benpicco> oops
[11:03] <bazhang> bastid_raZor: I almost want to go back to dapper just to do it ;]
[11:04] <dennis-> is it problematic to go from dapper to gutsy?
[11:04] <sureshot> i need to have a path in php.ini for loadable extensions anyone know where they are?
[11:04] <bazhang> dennis-: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[11:04] <sureshot> or could be ?
[11:05] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; heh..masocist
[11:05] <dennis-> bazhang: no
[11:05] <bazhang> bastid_raZor: haha
[11:05] <bazhang> dennis-: then roll up your sleeves for a very long upgrade process ;]
[11:05] <dennis-> bazhang: what would be the difficulties?
[11:06] <baudelaire> upgrading what?
[11:06] <ichat> sureshot:  - google  it   my best gues would be something like  /usr/lib/php  (or something)
[11:06] <spaww> hi all
[11:06] <dennis-> bazhang: dapper -> gutsy
[11:06] <dennis-> oops
[11:06] <baudelaire> ah
[11:06] <dennis-> baudelaire: dapper -> gutsy
[11:06] <all> hi spaww
[11:06] <spaww> someone have a comparation of ubuntu server and redhat ?
[11:06] <bazhang> dennis-: alternately you could just back up your home elsewhere and reinstall straight from gutsy then copy home over again
[11:06] <sureshot> ichat: oki is programfiles under lib usually ?
[11:06] <spaww> i need to justify the utilization of this SO in my servers (firewall / dns / basic services)
[11:07] <prince_jammys> !filesystem | sureshot
[11:07] <ubotu> sureshot: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[11:07] <bazhang> spaww: centos/red hat and ubuntu-server? there is a guide called the perfect server, let me get you a link
[11:07] <baudelaire> I hope they iron out a lot of the hardy heron bugs -- i know it's stilll alpha but i tried it this past weekend and it was painful. :-)  I must say though:  Gutsy is heavenly
[11:08] <ichat> ubotu tnx for the link i was about to post that
[11:08] <bazhang> ichat he's a bot ;]
[11:08] <ichat> whoops lol
[11:08] <sureshot> ichat: i tried google it and no result and in lib i cant find php
[11:08] <prince_jammys> !botsnack
[11:08] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:08] <boss> does any one have rapid share premium account???
[11:08] <bazhang> boss wrong channel for that
[11:08] <orchid`> im having sisues with flash. im able to watch youtube videos, but no other videos from itnernet sources. i am able to view msot media on my computer, i.e. stuff from the ent doesnt work but stuff on my hard drive does. any solutions?
[11:09] <prince_jammys> yeah, really
[11:09] <spaww> bazhang: yes, you have a link with this ?
[11:09] <bazhang> spaww just a sec, getting it..
[11:09] <spaww> bazhang: tkz
[11:10] <bazhang> http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=11304 and http://howtoforge.com/perfect_server_centos4.5 spaww
[11:10] <sureshot> prince_jammy: where in filesystem is php extension? in etc its only config-files for php
[11:10] <Polishpaul> does anyone know the name of the desktop effect, where if you mouse to a corner, all open windows back up to background for preview?
[11:10] <boss> bazhang: let me please know the channel to ask??
[11:10] <bazhang> boss no idea sorry
[11:10] <spaww> bazhang: very thank you
[11:10] <baudelaire> Has anyone had luck with Java on 64bit gutsy firefox?  i've installed it with automatix, and it doesn't work-- displays a gray box and nothing else.  on a similar note, flash works perfectly
[11:10] <bazhang> Polishpaul: scale iirc
[11:10] <prince_jammys> sureshot: i don't know. it's probably a library
[11:11] <prince_jammys> sureshot: what are you trying to do?
[11:11] <bazhang> Polishpaul: they would know for sure in #compiz-fusion though
[11:11] <Polishpaul> doh.. yeah
[11:11] <bazhang> baudelaire: automatix. uh oh.
[11:12] <baudelaire> that doesn't sound good... what's wrong with that?
[11:12] <sureshot> prince_jammy: cant find anything in lib, im trying to make a path in php.ini so it can load extensions(modules)
[11:12] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[11:12] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[11:12] <balachmar> Hi, I'm trying to compile Qosmic but I get the following error:
[11:12] <balachmar> Project ERROR: qosmic requires Qt >=4.3
[11:12] <balachmar> error while running qmake
[11:12] <bazhang> baudelaire: may as well back up now and reinstall
[11:12] <balachmar> But as far as I know I do have Qt4.3 installed as well as the dev stuff
[11:12] <baudelaire> wow, why is that?  isn't that too harsh?
[11:13] <bazhang> baudelaire: automatix is ubuntu killer #1
[11:13] <baudelaire> damn
[11:13] <baudelaire> can you explain further?  this is a temporary install anyway luckily...
[11:13] <prince_jammys> baudelaire: there's an explanation in the link above
[11:13] <baudelaire> oh i see
[11:14] <spaww> bazhang: you have some link with comparation between centos/red and ubuntu ? I ask this because my boss like to use oracle "Unbrekable" Linux (based on red hat) and we don't have support to updates on this SO... and I like to use ubuntu server... but I need to say: "look here... the ubuntu server is a good option because.... "
[11:14] <prince_jammys> baudelaire: bad implementation of a good idea
[11:14] <bazhang> hang on spaww let me check
[11:15] <baudelaire> WorksForMe?  Interesting philosophy --- I like it
[11:16] <bazhang> http://www.layeredtech.com/dedicated-servers/linux-server.php spaww this might have something
[11:16] <bod_> hey guys, bazhang hey,.,.anyway whenever i try to download the svg image from -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Firefox-logo.svg -- it tries to save as image.svg.png   why?
[11:17] <cpk1> spaww: well when it comes down to it both redhat and ubuntu will be using the same tools for what you want (iptables for firewall and bind for dns...)
[11:17] <sureshot> prince: i cant look into var/lib/php5 could it be in there, it says i dont have permission
[11:18] <spaww> bazhang: tkz
[11:18] <baudelaire> This still begs the question, is it possible or recommended to install java to work with firefox in gutsy64?
[11:18] <ima-n00b> hey all, does anyone know what directories firefox writes to?
[11:18] <ima-n00b> other than firefox and .mozilla
[11:19] <spaww> cpk1: yes, i know... for me ubuntu is a very good option... buuut... boss is the boss kkkk... and need a paper with "ubuntu is secure... like red hat"
[11:19] <prince_jammys> sureshot: i don't know about php extensions, but you can look in the directory using sudo
[11:20] <bazhang> spaww hope that was what you needed
[11:20] <ichat>  brb - switching pc - to laptop, -  getting ready to testdrive ubuntu with  accesibilitie options :)
[11:20] <isos_> join /##php
[11:20] <bod_> isos_, /j ##php
[11:21] <Mojo> lol
[11:21] <bod_> !lol | Mojo
[11:21] <ubotu> Mojo: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[11:22] <sureshot> prince_ how do i look there with sudo?
[11:22] <prince_jammys> sureshot: sudo ls /var/lib/php5
[11:23] <ArthurArchnix> spaww: centos is a debranded RedHat, so you should have a problem there. Why not just use debian etch? it has better integration with Bastille, and papers are available to discuss the hardening of the system, like CIS Debian Benchmark
[11:23] <sureshot> prince oki ty what does ls mean?
[11:23] <ArthurArchnix> shouldn't*
[11:23] <prince_jammys> sureshot: list
[11:24] <prince_jammys> sureshot: "display a file" or "display the contents of directory"
[11:24] <sureshot> prince:i see, but php.ini have access to it i right and i just add path
[11:25] <sureshot> prince: is there command for that to display?
[11:25] <prince_jammys> sureshot: display what?
[11:26] <prince_jammys> sureshot: there has to be a guide out there somewhere, so you don't have to be fishing around in your system trying to find files
[11:27] <sureshot> prince: yep ur right ls didnt help i still cant look
[11:29] <Zampaktu> hi, i have a new machine where i have installed Ubuntu 7.10 server for AMD 64, but it still only sees 3.2 gigs of ram, how can i check if i am really running in 64 bit mode?
[11:29] <prince_jammys> sureshot: if you describe exactly what you are trying to do, maybe i can help you find a guide on the internet
[11:30] <odder> Zampaktu: try uname
[11:30] <Frogzoo> Zampaktu: lsb_release -a
[11:30] <khalid> hi, how can i map a network drive om my ubuntu ?
[11:30] <Zampaktu> u name -r only shows: 2.6.22-14-server
[11:30] <sureshot> prince: im trying to add a path in php.ini (that i can open) path to extension_dir(modules)  ; Directory in which the loadable extensions (modules) reside.
[11:31] <pajamian> khalid: you mean to just access a network share from nautilus or mount it to use it in applications?
[11:31] <Pici> Zampaktu: uname -a will show your arch
[11:31] <bazhang> Zampaktu: what about lsb_release -a
[11:31] <Zampaktu> FrancoGG: no lsb modules available, then it says i am running gutsy, no 32/46 bit
[11:31] <khalid> thanks
[11:31] <khalid> i'll try that
[11:31] <prince_jammys> sureshot: and you tried adding the path to the php.ini file?
[11:32] <prince_jammys> sureshot: is that the file you are looking for?
[11:32] <Zampaktu> OK, uname -a shows i am running X86_64, but why does it still not see my 4 gigs of ram?
[11:32] <sureshot> prince_ i cant find the extension_dir = "c:\PHP\ext" that look like that in windows
[11:33] <Pici> Zampaktu: Does your BIOS see all 4gb?
[11:33] <khalid> i mean mount it to use it in applaications
[11:33] <Zampaktu> Pici: my bios see all the ram
[11:33] <sureshot> so if i only could find the directory where php/ext is
[11:33] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you looked in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ?
[11:34] <Pici> Zampaktu: Where are you looking in Ubuntu where you only see 3.2gb?
[11:34] <nyar88> Zampaktu: A guess, is your video card sharing some of the ram?
[11:34] <ArthurArchnix> Zampaktu: How did you determine that it's only see.... dang.
[11:34] <insanerp> my keyboard appears to still be in a french layout after i setup xserver-xorg for a us keyboard...any ideas how to fix this?
[11:34] <pajamian> khalid: you need to install the smbfs package
[11:34] <sureshot> prince_ yes that php.ini file it is im trying to change
[11:34]  * atoponce has 4GB installed with onel 3.8 visible
[11:34] <Zampaktu> Pici: cat /proc/meminfo
[11:35] <atoponce> s/onel/only/
[11:35] <pajamian> khalid: and you can use that to mount samba shares off a windows computer
[11:35] <khalid> thanks for the answer
[11:35] <Dr_willis> atoponce,  you refering to system memory?
[11:35] <Zampaktu> ArthurArchnix: i have taken a look at th /proc/meminfo file
[11:35] <sureshot> prince_under path and directries there is a line
[11:35] <atoponce> Dr_willis, total physical ram
[11:36] <Oberon> Hi, I'm having some trouble with compiling rtorrent. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4771670.html?sid=e5c6e6e233f52b0b11f2168e54cb7e82 describes the error, but i can't seem to solve the problem
[11:36] <Dr_willis> atoponce,  thats common on many machines with exactly 4 gb of ram - on a 32bit OS.
[11:36] <sureshot> the line that says Directory in which the loadable extensions (modules) reside
[11:36] <atoponce> /proc/meminfo shows 3.97 actually. hmmm
[11:36] <atoponce> yeah. i'm not too worried
[11:37] <atoponce> htop shows the 3.88 GB btw
[11:37] <prince_jammys> sureshot:
[11:37] <prince_jammys> ; Directory in which the loadable extensions (modules) reside.
[11:37] <prince_jammys> ; extension_dir = "./"
[11:37] <zod_> is it any point to get an antivirus prog for Ubuntu, if yes which one?
[11:38] <sureshot> yes exactly
[11:38] <insanerp> anyone know anything about keyboard layouts?
[11:38] <pajamian> atoponce: do you have on-board video that uses shared memory?
[11:38] <atoponce> insanerp, sure
[11:38] <atoponce> pajamian, yes
[11:38] <pajamian> atoponce: that's where the rest of the memory is going, then
[11:38] <sureshot> in windows it look like that extension_dir = "c:\PHP\ext"  easy to find
[11:38] <atoponce> pajamian, naturally
[11:38] <imaginativeone> hey everyone...
[11:38] <Dr_willis> other devices can also subtract from that 4 gb total. since its a 4gb of total addressable space  issue.
[11:38] <sureshot> but in Ubuntu?
[11:38] <insanerp> i installed ubuntu server and my keyboard's in french
[11:38] <Dr_willis>  Not just video cards.
[11:39] <imaginativeone> I'm trying to install Parallels Workstation, but it's rejecting me
[11:39] <insanerp> when i set it up as US
[11:39] <atoponce> insanerp, do you have X installed
[11:39] <insanerp> yes
[11:39] <imaginativeone> it needs "libc6" to be set up
[11:39] <atoponce> insanerp, what are you using to set your keyboard to US?
[11:39] <insanerp> xserver-xorg
[11:39] <zod_> Which antivirus is good for ubuntu?
[11:39] <atoponce> insanerp, what's the command your are running?
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> !antivirus | zod_
[11:40] <ubotu> zod_: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:40] <Dr_willis> zod_,  why do you think you need one. :)
[11:40] <insanerp> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:40] <bazhang> clamav is you must zod_
[11:40] <bazhang> err if
[11:40] <atoponce> insanerp, setxkbmap us
[11:40] <atoponce> that'll set the X keyboard layout. to set the console keyboard layout:
[11:40] <atoponce> dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[11:40] <insanerp> thank you
[11:41] <insanerp> i'll give them a try
[11:41] <atoponce> (yes, i think it's lame that it has to be done twice. we need a system-config-keyboard)
[11:41] <a[2121]e> any one know about webcam in pidgin messenger?
[11:41] <ArthurArchnix> insanerp: mais oui, you can accseezz the keyboard setups through your menuez. >preferences >keyboardz
[11:41] <zod_> never mind that antivirus then, i have been in the Windows world too long, good that i finally got Linux HELL YEA LINUX
[11:41] <atoponce> insanerp, np
[11:41] <imaginativeone> anyone install parallels?
[11:41] <imaginativeone> or any other virtualization program?
[11:41] <atoponce> ArthurArchnix, that just sets it for your session, and not system-wide
[11:41] <insanerp> ArthurArchnix: i tried that, it didn't seem to change anything
[11:42] <Odd-rationale> imaginativeone: I use virtualbox
[11:42] <n2diy> atoponce: loadkeys might work?
[11:42] <imaginativeone> OddRationale: how do you like it?
[11:42] <haha> how many people, wow
[11:42] <Odd-rationale> imaginativeone: Really good. Highly reccomended
[11:42] <atoponce> n2diy, never had much luck with that actually
[11:43] <bazhang> imaginativeone: also vmware-server
[11:43] <n2diy> atoponce: me neither. :/
[11:44] <imaginativeone> OddRationale: Thanks for the tip
[11:44] <Odd-rationale> imaginativeone: np
[11:44]  * atoponce misses his irssi. this xchat tab completion is driving me batty
[11:45] <Zampaktu> ArthurArchnix: do you have any idea as to why my machine inly sees 3.2 gigs of ram instead of 4
[11:46] <imaginativeone> OddRationale: how do I run it, once installed?
[11:46] <imaginativeone> I would like to have it in my Applications list
[11:46] <Odd-rationale> imaginativeone: System Tools
[11:46] <bazhang> lancerocke you around?
[11:46] <prince_jammys> sureshot: look in usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Zampaktu,  on a 32bit system - there can be hardware and other limitations.   I read up on it once. theres a lot of  little things the can be  making some of the ram not addressable.
[11:47] <prince_jammys> sureshot: /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/
[11:47] <Odd-rationale> imaginativeone: You'll have to add yourself to the vbox user group and log back in for that change to take effect.
[11:47] <sureshot> prince : oki will check
[11:48] <Zampaktu> Dr_willis: thanks, i have found the answer in a forum:   hanks. I see this when booting the computer in the first screen:
[11:48] <Zampaktu> Memory consumed by system resources: 898 MB System RAM
[11:48] <Zampaktu> So I think there it is the answer. Also saw this in the DELL faqs:
[11:48] <Zampaktu> BIOS must reserve some address space below 4GB for PCI devices such as RAID controllers, SCSI controllers, NICs, etc. RAID controllers in particular may request and be given 256MB each. This is address space that would normally be occupied by RAM, but instead is used by PCI devices.
[11:48] <Zampaktu> RAM addresses start at 0 and grow up. PCI device addresses start at 4GB and grow down. As long as there is no overlap, the OS will see all available RAM and make use of it. If there is overlap, the PCI devices win, and that RAM is not made available to the OS.
[11:48] <FloodBot1> Zampaktu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <Zampaktu> This is working as designed per PCI, BIOS, and system chipset specifications.
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Zampaktu,  Bingo - You figured it out.  :)
[11:49] <bazhang> Zampaktu: thanks for sharing ;]
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Likei said hardware limitations :)
[11:49] <atoponce> at what point in pasting does FloodBot1 get cranky?
[11:49] <ubuntu> has there been any updates since 7.10?
[11:49] <faisal_d> next one is 8.04.. due late next month
[11:49] <atoponce> ubuntu, yes. security and bug fixes
[11:49] <bod_> how can i convert a .svg to .png ? i tried a util online but it didnt work,.,.any ideas guys?
[11:50] <Oberon> Hi, I'm having some trouble with compiling rtorrent. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4771670.html?sid=e5c6e6e233f52b0b11f2168e54cb7e82 describes the error, but i can't seem to solve the problem> :(
[11:50] <shujin2> Got a problem with ndiswrapper in ubuntu... I got the iwlist scan working but I can't set the essid
[11:50] <atoponce> bod_, open it in gimp. save as png
[11:50] <bazhang> atoponce more than two lines
[11:50] <ubuntu> ok i am running live disk, wanting to possably install, last time i trouble with support on nvidia 8700 card is that fixed?
[11:51] <sureshot> prince there is just some files that ends with so like this mysql.so in windows there are many .dll files but i dont know what similar files in ubuntu is?
[11:51] <nyar88> bod_: imagemagick supposedly works svg to png also
[11:51] <bod_> atoponce, gimp screws the .svg when opening it, in gimp it looks nothing like what it looked like in inkscape
[11:51] <atoponce> ubuntu, i don't know. what was the issue?
[11:51] <bazhang> ubuntu the new driver covers that card
[11:51] <bod_> nyar88, is there a gui for imagemagick?
[11:51] <n2diy> I'm helping a friend put audio files on is Motorola i880 cell phone. I can read and write to the card with no problems, once the Dapper sees that card. The problem is, it takes hours for Dapper to find the card in my reader. It is a standard Sandisk 256m card, Ideas?
[11:51] <ubuntu> ok was wondering if i still have to configure x
[11:51] <atoponce> bod_, no
[11:51] <bod_> damn,.,.whats the imagemagick channel?
[11:52] <sureshot> prince: have you seen some php.in file using that path or?
[11:52] <nyar88> bod_: not that i'm aware of, but it's easy to use. convert file.svg filename.png
[11:52] <bod_> oh,. ok il try,.,.ty
[11:52] <Pici> bod_: Inkscape and save as raster as well.
[11:52] <prince_jammys> bod_: convert filename.svg filename.png  (but there's got to be a flag so you get a transparent background
[11:52] <atoponce> bod_, #imagemagick and ##imagemagick
[11:52] <bod_> cheers guys,.,.
[11:53] <bod_> Pici, what do you mean?
[11:53] <prince_jammys> bod_: inkscape can export svg to png
[11:53] <Pici> bod_: raster = not vector, I think Inkscape can export as png if you want, unless you're planning on doing some sort of batch thing, which imagemagick would be better for
[11:53] <sureshot> prince:im trying to run a webshop and to have that going some extensions must be loaded but where:(
[11:54] <prince_jammys> bod_: the above command (convert mypic.svg  mypic.png) also works, but you don't get a transparent background
[11:54] <bod_> Pici, prince_jammys i wanna make pretty pictures thats all,.,. how do i export something,. and how do i keep the transparent background?
[11:55] <Pici> bod_: I dont have it in front of me, but I believe the option is somewhere in the File menu
[11:55] <ArthurArchnix> bod_: Simpler to convert, not worry about background, open in Gimp and colour to alpha
[11:55] <prince_jammys> bod_: look in inkscape, there's "export bitmap" or something like that. as far as the command, i don't know
[11:55] <bod_> ArthurArchnix, ahh,. the sound of things flying over my head,.,.lol,.,. whats colour to alpha?
[11:57] <Ezicc> ok, need a bit of help getting fstab not to make my sys freak out on restart, any one able to help?
[11:57] <bod_> prince,_ty i found the export thing and it works,.,.wow,. cheers guys,.,.
[11:58] <ubuntu> any tips or advise be for installing ubuntu? i am using a shuttle sn27p2 model
[11:58] <bazhang> ubuntu run the livecd first and see how it plays with your wireless etc
[11:58] <n2diy> I'm helping a friend put audio files on is Motorola i880 cell phone. I can read and write to the card with no problems, once the Dapper sees that card. The problem is, it takes hours for Dapper to find the card in my reader. It is a standard Sandisk SD 256m card, Ideas?
[11:58] <Laruft> hi, does anyone know how to completely wipe the drive and all partition info and reset the mbr ?   Basically I have dual booting xp/ubuntu and wish to re-install xp but cannot do so.  wiped xp partition but even that doesn't work - xp install just seems to hang..  so I want to get rid of everytrhing now
[11:59] <ubuntu> bazhang am using live cd now and am wired
[11:59] <ArthurArchnix> I think I'm going crazy. My ubuntu machine is speaking to me.
[11:59] <ingo> i see no way to get gutsy mount my usb-landisk via fstab :-(
[11:59] <bazhang> ubuntu this is a laptop right?
[11:59] <bod_> Laruft, ALARM!!!! dont install xp second,. unless you wanna faff with GRUB for hours!!
[12:00] <ubuntu> no its a shuttle xpc model sn27p2 with a xfx 8700 gt oc g card
[12:00] <Laruft> bod, i had it working ok. i had multi-xp installs via hyperos  and THEN i installed ubuntu.. it's now I'm messing around re-installing xp when probs occur
[12:00] <ArthurArchnix> Laruft: Download dban and flatten disk with simplyoverwrite, or use gparted live cd
[12:00] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, oh that's normal ... my laptop speaks to me as well ... it even listens to me =)
[12:00] <imaginativeone> how do I fix: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE? on VirtualBox?
[12:01] <basti> Laruft: reinstalling grub is no problem at all. it will take you five minutes
[12:01] <bazhang> ubuntu and is there a restricted driver manager with drivers for that video card?
[12:01] <hischild> bod_, if you use supergrub, you can fix that in just a few minutes =)
[12:01] <Gothfunc> can anyone recommend a solid cable modem router?
[12:01] <ubuntu> good question i will look bazhang brb
[12:01] <Ezicc> anything by linksys
[12:01] <kestir> imaginativeone: try virtualbox support
[12:01] <bazhang> Gothfunc: asus
[12:01] <imaginativeone> The motorola I got from Comast is okay...
[12:01] <imaginativeone> thanks kestir
[12:02] <bod_> hischild, 1 machine in house,. 2 screwed os's no internet, no spare cd's no downloading the super grub disc,.,.;~)
[12:02] <ingo> please help me! : how can i mount a external usb-landisk via /etc/fstab with read/write-permission for my normal user ??? i tried to label it - but no success @ all :-(
[12:02] <ubuntu> bazhang: it says there is but not in use rite now
[12:02] <hischild> bod_, if i'm correct there's a way to use supergrub from windows without burning
[12:02] <prince_jammys> sureshot: what are the names of these extensions?
[12:02] <Ezicc> ok, so I can get my windows network share to mount ok, but... when i edit /etc/fstab on restart ubuntu freaks out, can someone confirm if i've got the right entry?
[12:02] <bod_> hischild, 2 screwed os's,. 1 ubuntu 1 windows,. grub dead so cannot boot windows
[12:03] <n2diy> bod_: wrong recipe, start with two boxes, one for testing.
[12:03] <bod_> n2diy, i did,. thought i was a chef then turned out i was a housewife
[12:03] <bazhang> ubuntu ah okay; then should be allright--sometimes with newer cards/drivers you might get dropped into a shell instead of the gui, at which point you want to reconfigure the xserver
[12:03] <hischild> bod_, if you (re)install windows you can boot windows .. ?
[12:03] <Gothfunc> Ezicc: i have linksys at the moment (wrt54gs), but it's not working correctly and really i'd like to get something more powerful.  any particular model?
[12:03] <n2diy> bod_: same thing no?
[12:03] <sureshot> prince: in windows  one of the 45 extensions in the /ext is php_mysql.dll
[12:04] <bod_> hischild, loosing all my windows info....
[12:04] <Gothfunc> bazhang: asus over    linksys?
[12:04] <ubuntu> bazhang: ah so still having to configure x then gatcha
[12:04] <Ezicc> Gothfunc: define "not working correctly"?
[12:04] <Laruft> Gothfunc, u tried the diff firmware? I use hyperwrt+thibor15c
[12:04] <bod_> n2diy, no,.lol,. i thought i had enough know-how to be confident with 1 box, sold the other then screwed things up
[12:04] <bazhang> Gothfunc: you want something with multiple ethernet ports and wireless and a usb port for using as a torrent box--then the asus is the one
[12:04] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you can install the mysql extension through apt, and it should be configured automatically
[12:04] <zod_> any one know where to get an good list of non-official Linux Games? please tell :)
[12:05] <bod_> non-official? theres official games?
[12:05] <hischild> bod_, not if you tell windows not to do anything to the file system and then give it an alternate dir to install to (for example, c:/win2)_
[12:05] <zod_> well not all the tux games, like fps or something
[12:05] <prince_jammys> !info php5-mysql | sureshot
[12:05] <sureshot> prince: yeah sure but it probably is about 44 more extensions in there
[12:05] <ubuntu> bazhang thank you for your time am closing out good day
[12:05] <bazhang> ubuntu: you might want to write this down just in case; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:05] <ubotu> sureshot: php5-mysql (source: php5): MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 236 kB
[12:05] <bod_> hischild, didnt work,.,. mbr was on ubuntu hard drive,. windows didnt touch it then couldnt boot
[12:05] <Gothfunc> Ezicc, Laruft: i've tried the official firmwares.  not working correctly as in cutting out when there is a   lot of traffic.  happens mostly when i download torrents on a windows machine and sometimes on linux
[12:06] <ubuntu> ok got it
[12:06] <n2diy> bod_: ok on that. I have four boxes here, when things go bad, and only one is working, I start to get worried.
[12:06] <bazhang> ubuntu come on back if you have any issues ;]
[12:06] <Gothfunc> Laruft: is that alternate firmware?
[12:06] <ubuntu> bazhang tks
[12:06] <Laruft> gothfunc yes
[12:06] <bazhang> ;]
[12:06] <Gothfunc> Laruft: looking now :)
[12:06] <hischild> bod_, hmm .... but ... what are you working on now? ..
[12:06] <bod_> n2diy, lol,. i have 1 box, three months experience and a big hammer,.,. things rarely go wrong,. but when they do it gets messy
[12:06] <zod_> is it normal that Ubuntu sometimes hang up, and u cant do nothing at all?
[12:06] <white_eagle> will hardy ship with gnome 2.22?
[12:07] <Gothfunc> bazhang: usb for torrent box?  how does that work?
[12:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that white_eagle
[12:07] <Odd-rationale> white_eagle: Yes, of course
[12:07] <sureshot> prince: sorry im new to ubuntu the !info php5-mysl where do i look for that
[12:07] <Dr_willis> zod_,  ive rarely seen that happen.  - you can alwyas try 'ssh'ing into the box and see what crashed. Video drivers are often the main problem.
[12:07] <white_eagle> Odd-rationale: and will it be available as an update to gutsy?
[12:07] <Ezicc> bazhang: could you check an fstab entry for me?
[12:07] <bazhang> Gothfunc: you turn off your computer and plugin a drive to it and it keeps running--pretty nifty for getting nightly builds of various distros
[12:07] <bod_> hischild, oh i fixed it,.,. went to my sisters, stole her computer, added my gard drives,.,. somehow (following a million online windows tuto's) fixed something and got windows to boot,. allowing me to back it up, then get the super disk,.,.
[12:08] <Esaj> help, I just was in the middle of updating hardy and I got some weird malloc errors...
[12:08] <atoponce> white_eagle, no
[12:08] <zod_> oki tnx, Dr_willis
[12:08] <white_eagle> what about gnome 2.20
[12:08] <n2diy> bod_: roger that, I've worn out a couple of big hammers since 1999. But it has been worth it.
[12:08] <atoponce> white_eagle, maybe under the backports
[12:08] <Odd-rationale> white_eagle: Hardy will. Don't know about gnome 2.22
[12:08] <Esaj> and now I can't log in any more, has anyone else encountered this?
[12:08] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you can install using "synaptic" in your system->admin menu, or type " sudo apt-get install php5-mysql " and then restart apache
[12:08] <bazhang> !ot | white_eagle
[12:08] <ubotu> white_eagle: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:08] <hischild> bod_, lol ... i thought you were still havin the trouble ... but yeah .. sometimes a sis is oh so usefull ;-)
[12:08] <atoponce> white_eagle, gnome 2.20 is currently running in gutsy
[12:08] <Gothfunc> bazhang: it runs torrent software on the router?
[12:08] <white_eagle> oh, I forgot
[12:08] <white_eagle> :)
[12:08] <white_eagle> thought of 2.18
[12:08] <bazhang> Gothfunc: aye
[12:08] <white_eagle> thanks
[12:08] <zod_> is it any new gnome out?, i got the gnome that follows the ubuntu 7.10
[12:08] <Dr_willis> I had my Linksys NSLU2 working as a torrent downloader. :)
[12:09] <Gothfunc> bazhang: sounds pretty cool :)
[12:09] <white_eagle> zod_: it is out, but it isn't available as an update
[12:09] <bod_> n2diy, definately,.,. hischild, yer, but i had to beg her to let me borow her machine,.,.
[12:09] <sureshot> prince_ i have installed php and mysl its just the extensions i need path too
[12:09] <insanerp> anyone know how to install X if when you do sudo apt-get install xorg it says 'couldn't find package xorg'?
[12:09] <atoponce> white_eagle, keep an eye on packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ if you want to see what will be included with that release
[12:09] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you can use the "synaptic" application to search for extensions, then "mark for installation" and have them downloaded and installed automatically
[12:09] <bazhang> Ezicc: well you can pastebin it; the people with brains in here (not me) can likely help though I will look too ;]
[12:09] <white_eagle> zod_: see this http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.22 hope it helps
[12:10] <zod_> ah kk tnx white_eagle
[12:10] <kitche> insanerp: try xserver-xorg
[12:10] <Dr_willis> insanerp,   thats proerly not the proper name of the package.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> !find xorg
[12:10] <ubotu> Found: libglu1-xorg-dev, xorg, xorg-dev, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-input-all (and 89 others)
[12:10] <white_eagle> np
[12:10] <Laruft> ok i'm using gparted on live cd and my hard drive ubuntu partitions appear locked and i cannot remove
[12:10] <n2diy> bod_:  are you working on a Dell box?
[12:10] <Ezicc> bazhang: pastebin?
[12:10] <bazhang> white_eagle: or just go to that channel ;]
[12:10] <insanerp> oh
[12:10] <prince_jammys> sureshot: use my full name in your messages, or they get lost. use the tab key to autocomplete the name after typing the first few characters: princ(tab key)
[12:10] <bod_> n2diy, no, built it
[12:10] <insanerp> is xserver-xorg the X environment for servers?
[12:11] <NeT_DeMoN_> !pastebin | ez
[12:11] <ubotu> ez: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:11] <Dr_willis> insanerp,   You may want to install 'ubuntu-desktop' for a full desktop system with X and widnow managers and so forth.
[12:11] <NeT_DeMoN_> oops
[12:11] <imaginativeone> how do I get to su?
[12:11] <insanerp> yeah i know
[12:11] <white_eagle> bazhang: to #ubuntu+1?
[12:11] <Pici> !sudo | imaginativeone
[12:11] <ubotu> imaginativeone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[12:11] <bazhang> insanerp: for x period
[12:11] <white_eagle> bazhang: :)
[12:11] <NeT_DeMoN_> !pastebin > Ezicc
[12:11] <insanerp> ahh ok
[12:11] <imaginativeone> thanks
[12:11] <d0tk0m> use 'sudo'
[12:11] <n2diy> bod_: cool, I do the same thing. Could the HD have come from a Dell box? Dell puts a hidden partition on the HD that will drive you nuts.
[12:11] <insanerp> thank you
[12:11] <Dr_willis> imaginativeone,  try 'sudo -s' or sudo -i for a shell
[12:11]  * bod_ hopes in times to come we will be able to communicate 100% with factoids
[12:11] <prince_jammys> sureshot: i *think* the extensions are in /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/ (for example, the mysql extension will be listed as mysql.so)
[12:12] <white_eagle> bye
[12:12] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you're not trying to copy dll files into ubuntu, are you?
[12:12] <atoponce> sudo -i would be preferred over sudo -s
[12:12] <bazhang> me hopes that bod_ will not become bot_
[12:12] <bod_> n2diy, no, i bought the hd,.
[12:12] <sureshot> prince_jammys:oki np:) i think the extensions should be installed but maybe its dirrefent on ubuntu?
[12:12]  * bod_ will be the ultimate bot,. ubotu watch your back!!!
[12:13] <bod_> n2diy, whats the hidden partition for?
[12:13] <prince_jammys> sureshot: it is. dlls are windows files
[12:13] <NeT_DeMoN_> bod_: you can never replace ubotu!
[12:13] <NeT_DeMoN_> :P
[12:13] <NeT_DeMoN_> n2diy: like wubi?
[12:13] <n2diy> bod_: ok, and you want to wipe the hard drive? The hidden partition is for Dell, no use to anybody else.
[12:14] <bod_> NeT_DeMoN_, thats what you think!!! im creating a databse with factoids for every possible phrase,.,.will take 3 years to compile though
[12:14] <Odd-rationale> n2diy: Even ubuntu dell has that partition?
[12:14] <bod_> n2diy, i dont want to format anything?
[12:14] <NeT_DeMoN_> bod_: i can not have this conversation with you unless you go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <n2diy> Odd-rationale: I don't know about that?
[12:15] <pppZero> can anyone tell me why message filters in evolution are so slow?
[12:15] <n2diy> bod_: ok, so you need to save your stuff?
[12:15] <DDoS> just wanted to say how much this shareware (parallels) in the ubuntu repos bugs me
[12:15] <bod_> n2diy, no,.,. i have already solved the problem,.,.was just sharing my experience
[12:15] <Odd-rationale> n2diy: ok. just curious...
[12:16] <DDoS> if this is going on, i quit ubuntu support in some forums and change to debian
[12:16] <bazhang> DDoS: yeah better to use virtualbox or vmware-server
[12:16] <DDoS> i dont want ubuntu to be the m$-linux
[12:16] <atoponce> DDoS, what's bothering you?
[12:16] <n2diy> bod_: that's cool, what was the fix?
[12:17] <sureshot> prince_jammys: of course not:p i know its different here
[12:17] <ArthurArchnix> "Do what I say or the ubuntu disc gets it"
[12:17] <bazhang> DDoS: Suse has that already ;]
[12:17] <ArthurArchnix> Needs to be a factoid
[12:17] <n2diy> Odd-rationale: roger, I trash pick boxes, and have run into that in the past, but not with any "new" Dell boxes.
[12:17] <DDoS> atoponce shareware is windows sh**
[12:17] <bod_> n2diy, i invented 500 new swear words and alot of types of migraines then one day doing the same thing i tried 10 times before,. it just worked
[12:18] <atoponce> DDoS, then don't install it?
[12:18] <Ezicc> hi all - please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59468/
[12:18] <sureshot> prince_jammys: have to get some lunch now, be back later but ty for the help
[12:18] <ConstyXIV> how do you get the ubuntu RDP client out of fullscreen?
[12:18] <ArthurArchnix> DDoS: Go write up a spec and post to launchpad, or take it to offtopic.
[12:18] <DDoS> atoponce its not about installing
[12:18] <Esaj> anyone else having trouble with malloc errors in hardy?  I guess you wouldn't be on this channel if you were...
[12:18] <prince_jammys> sureshot: you're welcome. i'm pretty ignorant when it comes to that topic
[12:18] <n2diy> bod_: roger on "debug X 10"
[12:18] <atoponce> DDoS, then what is it about?
[12:18] <bazhang> DDoS: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <DDoS> arthurarchnix offtopic channel pls
[12:18] <ConstyXIV> Esaj, i'd go to #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <ArthurArchnix> DDoS: There's also that new ideastorm thing for ubuntu... you might want to post there.
[12:19] <DDoS> k
[12:19] <prince_jammys> !brainstorm | DDoS
[12:19] <DDoS> thx
[12:19] <ubotu> DDoS: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[12:19] <bod_> n2diy, yer
[12:19] <bod_> ;~)
[12:19] <ArthurArchnix> thanks prince_jammys
[12:19] <Dr_willis> I would like to apt-get install  comercial games. :)  but theres not a lot to get...
[12:19] <NeT_DeMoN_> Ezicc: that really wasnt worth a pastebin post
[12:19] <Esaj> ConstyXIV, thank you!
[12:19] <Ezicc> that's what i thought, but hey, lol
[12:20] <prince_jammys> sudo apt-get install microsoft_office
[12:20] <bazhang> err remove
[12:20] <NeT_DeMoN_> !away | demon_spork|AFK
[12:20] <ubotu> demon_spork|AFK: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[12:20] <prince_jammys> heh
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[12:20] <prince_jammys> an extra 5 lines
[12:20] <d0tk0m> hey peeps, any tips on updating the kernel?
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> d0tk0m, Just do the regular updates...
[12:21]  * Dr_willis agrees with Jack_Sparrow
[12:21] <n2diy> bod_: Are you familiar with the DOS Debug rountine? It would be nice to know how to do it with linux?
[12:21] <d0tk0m> I'm worried for the latest nvidia drivers i have installed tho.
[12:21] <kaxi> when i do a normal gutsy ubuntu install the system picks up when i insert a camera, or usb stick and mounts it. i installed a minimal ubuntu system and don't get that. what components do i need to add for that to work?
[12:21] <carrera> Greetings!
[12:22] <ygor> Hello Guys. well im trying to see my limewire folder at winxp..my nautilus freeze .. and if i force an closing..my desktop got out of icons..and i cant do anything on my gutsy..does any1 know what is that?
[12:22] <carrera> Gutsy keeps shutting down my P4 3.20 GHz laptop
[12:22] <n2diy> kaxi: hotswap?
[12:22] <carrera> which log should I look in?
[12:22] <kaxi> n2diy is that it? thanks. i'll give it a shot
[12:22] <d0tk0m> I'm worried for the latest nvidia drivers i have installed tho when I update the kernel.
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Perhaps dmesg
[12:23] <d0tk0m> whats the safest move?
[12:23] <bod_> n2diy, that depends,.,. dos has changed with every distro,.,. win xp dos is different to win 98 dos,. and orig dos,. and disk repair mode has limited dos,. DOS was written by a college student bulied into giving it to microsoft,. who is owned by billy who went to school with the creator of apple who is allergic to fruits which grow on trees,.
[12:23] <n2diy> kaxi: not sure, but that's a start.
[12:23] <carrera> hi Jack_Sparrow
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Not quite awake yet.. but yes goodmorning..
[12:23] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, I pasted my menu.lst but u were logged off
[12:23] <Ezicc> NeT_DeMoN_:  any ideas where my fstab entry is failing?
[12:24] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, where do u live?
[12:24] <NeT_DeMoN_> Ezicc: dont ask me im still learning about ubuntu :P
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Calif
[12:24] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, what time do u have?
[12:24] <Ezicc> NeT_DeMoN_: ah, K lol
[12:24] <n2diy> bod_: ok!? :) That's why I dicthed M$ in 1998.
[12:24] <bod_> n2diy, btw, thats all true
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, 5:24am
[12:24] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, must be early morning there
[12:24] <NeT_DeMoN_> !lol | Ezicc
[12:24] <ubotu> Ezicc: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:24] <NeT_DeMoN_> :P
[12:24] <pppZero> d0tk0m, nvidia drivers are just modules, install them though synaptic, reboot, and they should be loaded, the actual kernel shouldnt matter as long as its relatively new
[12:24] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, it's 3:54 pm here
[12:25] <Ezicc> I can successfully mount my networkshare using the following:
[12:25] <Ezicc> sudo mount.cifs //demysserver/documents /J -o credentials=~/.smbpass
[12:25] <Ezicc> however, the fstab entry causes ubuntu to freak out when I restart, once i manage to get ubuntu to start the network share hasn't been re-mounted.
[12:25] <Ezicc> fstab entry:
[12:25] <Ezicc> //demysserver/documents /J cifs credentials=home/support/.smbpass 0 2
[12:25] <bod_> !paste
[12:25] <FloodBot1> Ezicc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:25] <n2diy> bod_: Not exactly, Billy was a college dropout, who bought DOS, and THEN created M$.
[12:25] <d0tk0m> pppZero
[12:25] <bod_> n2diy, not really,.,. he never paid a penny for the building blocks of dos (written byu a college student he went to college with)
[12:26] <ubuntuuu> Hello, I'm a pretty new Ubuntu-user and I'm used to mirc. Can anyone suggest alittle "heavier" irc-client for Ubuntu then Pidgin? =)
[12:26] <d0tk0m> pppZero, so it shouldn't matter that I already have the latest installed... I should be able to install the new kernel over the top of them and all will be well?
[12:26] <pajamian> ubuntuuu: xchat
[12:26] <pppZero> ubuntuuu, xchat (not xchat-gnome though, its strange)
[12:26] <gradetwo> ubuntuuu: XChat
[12:27] <carrera> jack-desktop, i've almost concluded that heat is the cause of my sudden shut downs
[12:27] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow,
[12:27] <ubuntuuu> Xchat it is then :).
[12:27] <n2diy> bod_: Ok, this may have to go to #off-topic. Billy didn't go to BYU, and he paid $12,000 for DOS, as I understand it.
[12:27] <pppZero> d0tk0m, you should be pretty safe, just write down the name of the package in case you get stuck at a terminal having to install them again with apt-get ;)
[12:27] <NeT_DeMoN_> ubuntuuu: you could try XChat or konversation
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, n2diy   OT
[12:27] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow,  i've almost concluded that heat is the cause of my sudden shut downs
[12:27] <d0tk0m> cheers