 @pistolpete3058 [Well I mean standard Ubuntu works fine with touch screen computers, since the su …], I see the Surface more like a tablet and thought that I would prefer ubuntu touch for it
 Wouldn't recommend. It's supposed to operate as a desktop, not a tablet. It's a form factor computer designed to be an inbetween device
 But honestly, there's no hurt in trying.
 @pistolpete3058 [But honestly, there's no hurt in trying.], I've heard that the kernel sources for microsoft custom cpu are very locked which make it almost very hard to make a custom os for the pro x 😢
 What a pain
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/m0IAp76v.mp4
 @E552562 [I've heard that the kernel sources for microsoft custom cpu are very locked whic …], yeah you would need at least the kernel sources, if ubuntu works i think you find a way to get UT to work on it tbh
 it's the one with a custom qualcomm SOC , right? … do linux dekstop distros even work on it?
 Again I see broken vertical/horizontal mode in v.92 (rc)...
 @C0n57an71n [Might be waaay too expensive. Volla Phone maybe?], I think a second hand essential phone is nice
 or pixel 4a
 not the 5g bs
 @ziomkokot [I tried 10.0.8 firmware Android9) and UBPorts  recommended version can NOT be in …], Yeah I am aware it, I am looking at it
 @ziomkokot [I tried 10.0.8 firmware Android9) and UBPorts  recommended version can NOT be in …], [Edit] Yeah I am aware of it, I am looking at it
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 My redmi 4x stuck in bootloop
 Doesn't turning on
 @suriyaprasanth [My redmi 4x stuck in bootloop], What happens when you press Vol- and Power simultaneous?
 (Video, 41s) https://irc.ubports.com/TpAaA1Zv.mp4
 Fastboot mode
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 WTF?!
 How do I build by phone device tree
 is that normal? :)))))))))))
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 @C0n57an71n [is that normal? :)))))))))))], I don't know
 @Master_Technolgy [How do I build by phone device tree], I don't understand the question...
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/T0c4qEih.webp
 @C0n57an71n [I don't understand the question...], My phone don't have device tree to create a custom rom it only have port roms
 Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"code":4294967295,"cmd":"C:\Users\suri\AppData\Local\Temp\1mh11UV943ySIxyU7RPFgFiB4W8\resources\app.asar.unpacked\node_modules\android-tools-bin\dist\win32\x86\adb.exe -P 5037 start-server"},"stderr":"* daemon not running; starting now at tcp:5037\r\ncould not read ok
[10:38] <ubptgbot>  from ADB Server\r\n* failed to start daemon\r\nerror: cannot connect to daemon"}
 what does this error mean11?
 [Edit] what does this error mean?
 @Master_Technolgy [My phone don't have device tree to create a custom rom it only have port roms], what phone do you have?
 @C0n57an71n [what phone do you have?], Samsung galaxy A8 plus ds … 6GB ram … 64GB storage … Exynos 7885
 @Master_Technolgy [Samsung galaxy A8 plus ds … 6GB ram … 64GB storage … Exynos 7885], You want to port UT yourself or somebody had already done it?
 @C0n57an71n [You want to port UT yourself or somebody had already done it?], No I want to know how to build device tree
 @Master_Technolgy [No I want to know how to build device tree], @Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?
 @C0n57an71n [@Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?], UT needs device tree or not
 @Master_Technolgy [UT needs device tree or not], Is your phone running android 9?
 @ItsMeShouko [Is your phone running android 9?], Yes
 @ItsMeShouko [Is your phone running android 9?], Launched with 7.1.1
 @Master_Technolgy [Launched with 7.1.1], Check first if your device supports project treble
 @suriyaprasanth [Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"code":42949672 …], what happens when from the fastboot mode you choose the recovery mode?
 @ItsMeShouko [Check first if your device supports project treble], I have trebled it already
 you can choose it with the Volume keys
 @Master_Technolgy [I have trebled it already], Have you checked?
 @ItsMeShouko [Have you checked?], Yes
 The phone with stock firmware didn't have project treble
 @Master_Technolgy [The phone with stock firmware didn't have project treble], So stock 9 does not support it?
 @ItsMeShouko [So stock 9 does not support it?], Yes
 Will samsung open source code help
 @Master_Technolgy [Yes], It seems some 3rd party dev treblized the device. In that case try using that custom vendor to port UT
 @ItsMeShouko [It seems some 3rd party dev treblized the device. In that case try using that cu …], How bro
 You will need still need at least kernel tree
 And also I want it for other roms
 @ItsMeShouko [You will need still need at least kernel tree], Hmm
 [Edit] You will still need at least kernel tree
 Will that help … https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://github.com/SiddhantNaik1731/universal7885&ved=2ahUKEwj1yMe004nuAhVqSBUIHVs_AVUQFjABegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw2yD0lNVJQM-HD0wlGr9prl
 Apart from that device tree is required to get OTAs enabled afaik
 @Master_Technolgy [Will that help … https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gith …], Head over to porting group
 Ok
 @ItsMeShouko [Head over to porting group], Are u there too
 @C0n57an71n [@Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?], I strongly recommend only trying to port devices with existing LineageOS sources, they are of good quality and most promising
 We cannot support all the thousands of device types existing by now
 And yes, UT needs kernel, device and also sometimes vendor repo to build
 Except fpr newer GSI compatible models
 @Flohack [And yes, UT needs kernel, device and also sometimes vendor repo to build], I am crushed
 Well deal with it, its a complex technology, we are already happy it works for some devices ;)
 @Flohack [Well deal with it, its a complex technology, we are already happy it works for s …], You are right at least it work
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 Hello guys, are there any chances the galaxy s9 is going to get a port of ubports
 ?
 depends on whether someone who owns a s9 is willing to port
 if you're interested in porting we have documentation for it at docs.ubports.com/porting
 many porters have started with zero experience
 hi! Where best do i get pinepro pc ? … Thanks : )
 uh on pine64's website?
 @MARriya888 [hi! Where best do i get pinepro pc ? … Thanks : )], https://pine64.com/?v=0446c16e2e66
 @C0n57an71n [what happens when from the fastboot mode you choose the recovery mode?], It worked for me.
 After some several reboots it's ok
 How do I install telegram  on ubuntu phone
 teleports is the native telegram client
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 wtf
 Is it a phone problem or a system problem? … PS I lost the video, the moment
 (Video, 25s) https://irc.ubports.com/08tGwBBd.mp4
 Slimport
 hard to say. could be lots of things
 hdmi cable, hdmi ports, slimport adapter, or usb port issues could cause problems. or could theoretically be a software issue. but can't say definitively from that
 It's definitely not the hdmi cable and port.
 The problem is not constant, I think it's in the adapter
 I think that's a common issue which I encountered many times on my Nexus 5
 did you connect power?
 @Javacookies [did you connect power?], Yes, but also without nothing works and sometimes glitches and sometimes not
 this is only a guess, but I think sometimes the power isn't enough so the connection isn't stable. In my experience, it seems to be the combinatiion of HDMI, slimport and monitor
 @Javacookies [this is only a guess, but I think sometimes the power isn't enough so the connec …], 2 amp supply
 I've had many slimport adapters and nothiing really lasted long and most of the time connection is indeed unstable
 that's uh an unfortunate zoom :x … ohw yeah i was going to look into how to adjust where it zooms to 🤔 i better log this somewhere before i forget again
 interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my monitor and projector. I think could also be a problem with the nexus 5 port. My unstable experience was with my old Nexus 5
 [Edit] interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my monitor and projector. I think it could also be a problem with the nexus 5 port. My unstable experience was with my old Nexus 5
 I'm thinking of going back to android and see if that helps
 @Javacookies [interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my moni …], I've tweaked all the wires, it doesn't affect the work
 yeah, worth a try and see
 @Gud_kom_fra_vest [I've tweaked all the wires, it doesn't affect the work], sometimes it's just how the micro USB male fits into the female port (trying to be mature 😆)
 one of my Nexus 5 only charges with one specific micro USB cable I have
 The system also dies if you try to open some applications full screen
 @Javacookies [sometimes it's just how the micro USB male fits into the female port (trying to …], pfff just say how the micro usb plug fits in the ports xD
 @Fuseteam [pfff just say how the micro usb plug fits in the ports xD], sorry, English isn't my native tongue 😝
 @Javacookies [sorry, English isn't my native tongue 😝], neither is it mine appearantly 😂
 @C0n57an71n [https://pine64.com/?v=0446c16e2e66], Hi Guys thanks … this Chromebook is a complete pc ? … when will it be shipped / expected ? since it states "pre order" … and … would the Ubuntu touch OTA-15 be as a complete pc  features ?
 what do you mean by complete pc?
 i don't think the pinebook pro is a chromebook either
 (Photo, 576x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/hkLIoEem.png
 @MARriya888 [Hi Guys thanks … this Chromebook is a complete pc ? … when will it be shipped / expe …], 1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu Touch is a phone/tablet OS, not a "complete PC" OS
 @dohbee [what do you mean by complete pc?], that it's features are alike a pc.
 @MARriya888 [<reply to media>], it can be used like a desktop but not yet with the same features per se
 android has a lot of features like a pc even. but if you are expecting the same experience you get with windows or your favorite linux distro on a PC, you will be disappointed
 it's still limited to what you can do with it as a phone … just that the interface scales on a large screen and with kb/mouse
 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], Ty. … It's because of domeinen here might know.
 domeinen = some one here
 ubuntu touch does not have a pinebook pro image afaik
 only pinephone and pinetab
 questions about pinebook pro are best asked in the pine64 groups
 @MARriya888 [<reply to media>], this indicates: a phone with this technical feature this group is developing … can work as a pc, right ? TY!
 this group is about https://ubuntu-touch.io yes
 @dohbee [questions about pinebook pro are best asked in the pine64 groups], on telegram ? … Thanks I'll search : )
 there is a generic amd64 qemu image build, which can theoretically be run on a PC similar to running UT on phones/tablets, but again it is not a traditional linux distro and if you are expecting a traditional linux distro experience, you will be disappointed
 @the moment i only have smartphone..
 I found pine64 news
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 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], i mean what is a "complete pc", convergence should mean it will eventually be usable on the desktop, no? :p
 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], [Edit] i mean what is a "complete pc"? convergence should mean it will eventually be usable on the desktop, no? :p
 @MARriya888 [that it's features are alike a pc.], what features do you mean?
 @Fuseteam [i mean what is a "complete pc"? convergence should mean it will eventually be us …], Convergence means that convergent apps work across form factors and a convergent shell works across form factors. So suitable apps and Lomiri would work across form factors. … At that point Ubuntu Touch will still be a phone OS with comp
[16:16] <ubptgbot> onents that work across form factors. The expectations of PC Linux are somewhat different.
 i mean if Ubuntu Touch has components that works accross form factors you could technically install it on PC. i'm somewhat curious what the expectation of PC would be
 i suspect for PC linux it has to do with cli packagemanager support, but it is that the only thing?
 [Edit] i suspect for PC linux it has to do with cli packagemanager support, but it is that the only expectation that would disappoint? (and i guess existing binary packages wouldn't work either)
 well I think some desktop designs and use cases don't really fit on  a mobile phone. But to me the ultimate goal is still that. Your phone doing everything your PC can do software-wise
 i am more referring to installing UT on a desktop pc btw readonly rootfs an all
 [Edit] i am more referring to installing UT on a desktop pc btw readonly rootfs 'n all
 well that would still be the same
 same as in "some use cases not fitting"?
 [Edit] same as in "some use cases not fitting" or.....
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 Hello, is there a way to compile Ubuntu touch from source, to align with my unsupported device. Its tecno La7. Any response will be appreciated
 @Fuseteam [same as in "some use cases not fitting" or.....], I mean installing UT on a desktop and running it on a phone is the same
 @Javacookies [I mean installing UT on a desktop and running it on a phone is the same], so it won't fit "some usecases" 🤔
 @gerie_reveur [Hello, is there a way to compile Ubuntu touch from source, to align with my unsu …], something like that, here's a link that explains the actual process: https://docs.ubports.com/porting
 Hello everyone I'm trying to sideload recommended Android 9 update and it loads about 50% before erroring due to missing driver
 Any thoughts?
 Xiaomi mi a2
 side load? how are you doing that?
 What is the error you get?
 Because the ota updates to and10
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 Command line quits the process and phone errors driver missing or not existing (both windows and linix Ubuntu and debian
 can you post the error?
 That is difficult to do as I cannot screenshot anything while I'm in recovery mode what I'll try to do is today when I'll try it again I will take a picture of it
 I will try it now
 Give me a few minutes it doesn't take long
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 @ziomkokot [Xiaomi mi a2], please pm me
 dont know how
 pm
 pm= personal message
 [Edit] pm = personal message
 @ItsMeShouko [please pm me], how
 @ziomkokot [pm], @shoukolab
 never mind just join
 @alan_griffiths [Convergence means that convergent apps work across form factors and a convergent …], tbf, technically speaking a smartphone is a personal computer; just not one which follows legacy design thinking that people have been conditioned to expect from a computer
 @djsoyboi [now I never buying a non google device], Tbf Google are just as bad
 @amyosx [Tbf Google are just as bad], it is
 @Fuseteam [something like that, here's a link that explains the actual process: https://doc …], Thanks a lot, now I'll start working on the port, I'll notify the group of any advancements
 smart phone os is heavily dependent on the app
 it is a bundle deal
 Of course. Either Ubuntu Touch meets your needs or it does not. If it does not, we can work toward a solution that meets those unmet needs.
 ut itself is a decent os
 please evangelize to all the services who don't provide their apps for UT, nor APIs for third parties to develop them
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 Please bring Ubuntu Touch for Oppo A3S device. Excited to use it
 someone who owns the device has to do the port, assuming it can be unlocked and ported at all
 Recently I installed phoenix (android) windows based application for dual boot with windows, such a simple
 @dohbee [tbf, technically speaking a smartphone is a personal computer; just not one whic …], tbh i am  think if it's "just" the expectation of a "running legacy applications" it should be too hard to meet those expectations with a package manager that expects a ro rootfs :p
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/izmpEPqf.apk
 this isn't the place for sharing apks
 By the time  this one from git hub quiet good
 we use ubuntu touch we can't use apks
 if you have github link that would be better but it's offtopic in the end
 [Edit] if you have github link maybe you can share and talk about it in @ubportsof
 Embedded Linux is not limited to phone
 and now i'm confused
 please don't post off topic things here @RAJVMEHTA
 this group is about Ubuntu Touch and UBports, not about android or other linux distros
 Ok..
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 Sometimes my alarm is inaudible or becomes inaudible after a few seconds. Could someone give me a hint which log to check to debug this issue?
 this is a really weird issue i saw it once or twice but not sure what triggers it
 the first step to debugging the issue is usually trying to reproduce it as that could hint which log files we need
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 Finally got the equipment for making my new Nexus 5 work on the TV!
 Is there any way of having more than one app open at the same time?
 Nice!
 @xander2m [Is there any way of having more than one app open at the same time?], it should switch to windowed mode when you connect the external display i thought
 but you can toggle it in the session indicator too (the gear in the top right)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/M2dZBHsL.png In here?
 Oh desktop mode 😂
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/ki48s6BO.png Sorted!
 yes :P
 Have you noticed that for other devices - UT media device? I can play music on my iphone and it will play through the Nexus speaker. If the speaker(bluetooth) is connected to the Nexus, it will play music on it.
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 I went for the direct input method! 😂
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[22:08] <ubptgbot> <Ritchie Z> @xander2m [<reply to media>], How well does it perform? What type of slimport adapter did you use?
 Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)
 Just joined telegram! 😎
 @triorbit [Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)], Welcome
 @Ritchie Z [How well does it perform? What type of slimport adapter did you use?], Works great. It's like using a desktop version of Ubuntu / Ubuntu Touch. I just got a slimport lead from eBay and hooked it up to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from Amazon. I made sure I picked one that supports android and pc so I was confident that it w
[22:46] <ubptgbot> ould connect cos I read some people had difficulties. But worked first time.
 @triorbit [Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)], Good night from here!
[22:50] <ubptgbot> <Ritchie Z> @xander2m [Works great. It's like using a desktop version of Ubuntu / Ubuntu Touch. I just …], Thank you for your reply! I have always wanted to try it, but was discouraged by some forum posts saying that it is buggy, because it doesn't receive focus in the development. Next time I decide to install UB touch on my nexus 5, I will buy an
[22:50] <ubptgbot>  adaptet and try it as well. :)
 Well I bought the phone and everything over the last few weeks because I wanted to try it on the big screen (can we say convergence?! 😂) but it worked just fine for me. Obviously it's not as feature packed as a full Linux distro but so far so good.
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[23:04] <ubptgbot> <Hand Feger> so what kind of connection hardware do you use to connect the phone with a bigger screen? … does it support a miracast connection?
 Slimport to hdmi adapter. It has a micro usb charging capability too.
 Not sure about Miracast. I havent Seen that setting on my phone
[23:27] <ubptgbot> <Hand Feger> thx! already started my search for an adapter on sale.
 my note 4 does that, but it requires an 11-pin micro usb to HDMI, its weird but works
 also allows me to use USB devices while connected to the bugger screen
 [Edit] also allows me to use USB devices while connected to the bigger screen


[05:27] <Kilos> hi psychicist and others
[05:36] <Kilos> hi henkj
[05:42] <Squirm> morning
[05:42] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[05:53] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:09] <mazal> More oom
[06:14] <Squirm> hey mazal
[06:14] <Squirm> hi henkj
[06:16] <mazal> Hi Squirm
[06:31] <Kilos> hmm... are our monthly meets at 20.00 or 20.30?
[06:31] <Kilos> i think 20.30 was decided on but not sure
[06:36] <nlsthzn> Goeie more, Suid Afrika!
[06:37] <Kilos> hello nlsthzn
[06:37] <nlsthzn> How are you uncle Kilos ?
[06:37] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[06:38] <nlsthzn> No complaints thansk :)
[07:25] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:34] <Vince-0> hiyo
[07:44] <nlsthzn> ... Silver, away!
[07:44] <Kilos> haha you playing the lone ranger
[07:45] <nlsthzn> saw hiyo... and heard hiho :p
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:46]  * nlsthzn still needs to go see the new Lone Ranger movie
[10:11] <bduk1> Good day everyone
[10:11] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[10:22] <mazal> QA , is jy verdwaal ?
[10:22] <QA> mazal: Huh?
[10:23] <Kilos> sy is nog onder konstruksie
[11:05] <nlsthzn> QA, make me a sandwich
[11:05] <QA> nlsthzn: Huh?
[11:05] <nlsthzn> QA, sudo make me a sandwich
[11:05] <QA> nlsthzn: Excuse me?
[11:06] <nlsthzn> >.>
[11:06] <Kilos> lol
[11:07] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[11:08] <superfly> hi Kilos
[11:15] <nlsthzn> and all the girlies say he's pretty superfly for a white oke
[11:20] <Kilos> hehe
[11:57] <Kilos> oh my
[11:58] <nlsthzn> what went wrong?
[11:58] <Kilos> i dunno
[11:59] <Kilos> http://ajax.googleapis.com/ be sick
[12:01] <nlsthzn> it is no more, it has ceased to be...
[12:02] <Kilos> oh
[12:06] <nlsthzn> well the site in any case :p
[12:06] <nlsthzn> and that line was from a Monty Phyton skit...
[12:10] <nlsthzn> lol, from 2013 questions on Month Python sketches are part of the exam to be able to become a British Citizen :)
[12:29] <inetpro> Kilos: [2013-08-26 18:17:22] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed Meeting time moved to 20:30
[12:29] <inetpro> good afternoon everyone
[12:29] <Kilos> hi inetpro  good i tweeted that time
[12:40] <nlsthzn> o/ inetpro
[12:40]  * nlsthzn has been out of the loop so badly I don't even know if we had/are having a Sept. meeting :/
[12:45] <Kilos> yip monday night nlsthzn
[12:45] <Kilos> meets last monday of the month now
[12:46] <Kilos> groot weste wind inetpro miskien bring dit bietjie water
[12:47] <inetpro> hmm... wat dink jy, gaan hy my vang langs die pad vandag?
[12:47] <nlsthzn> ah ok, thanks uncle Kilos
[12:47] <Kilos> ek weet nie. reen is so min hier
[12:48] <Kilos> maar die wind sal jou kry ja
[12:48] <inetpro> ai!
[12:48] <inetpro> wel kom ons hoop maar hy bring die water
[12:49] <Kilos> ja die wereld is te droog hier
[12:51] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy your weekend
[12:57] <nlsthzn> dry.... don't talk to me about dry ...
[12:57] <nlsthzn> :p
[13:21] <nlsthzn> bbbl
[13:21] <inetpro> Maaz: bbbl
[13:21] <Maaz> inetpro: Excuse me?
[13:21] <inetpro> hmm...
[13:55] <Kilos> hi Snowy
[14:08] <Kilos> hmm... nm  shows no signal at all from tower
[14:08] <Kilos> sigh
[14:08] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[14:08]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[14:08] <Kilos> wow
[14:13] <Kilos> might be offline tonight
[17:44] <Kilos> hi adeebnqo psychicist space
[17:44] <space> Hi Kilos.
[17:45] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn
[17:45] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 21 hours, 35 minutes and 17 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-19 22:10:05 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-19 22:11:36 SAST
[17:45] <psychicist> hi Kilos
[17:47] <inetpro> Kilos: he working his butt off?
[17:47] <Kilos> looks like
[17:47] <Kilos> tired at night
[17:47] <Kilos> not tough like the ballies
[18:00] <Kilos> inetpro, did you follow all the ibid games on my channel
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:00] <Kilos> whew
[18:00] <Kilos> miles of scrolling
[18:01] <Kilos> we think its some settings or something in the server no ibid
[18:01] <inetpro> games?
[18:01] <Kilos> fun and games trying to fix it
[18:01] <inetpro> and did you fix it?
[18:02] <Kilos> not yet. we dunno what to do to the server
[18:02] <Kilos> too far away to use a 4lb
[18:03] <Kilos> we need a debian server expert methinks
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: take a virtual 4lb
[18:03] <inetpro> or make it 10lb even
[18:03] <Kilos> rofl
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: where's mazal
[18:05] <Kilos> he only here weekdays till 3pm
[18:05] <inetpro> tell him he doesn't need windows for configuring switches
[18:05] <Kilos> he uses buntu servers
[18:05] <Kilos> tell maaz to tell him what to use
[18:06] <Kilos> can you do switches like routers from cli?
[18:06] <inetpro> tell him he just needs gnu screen to configure switches, no hyperterminal needed
[18:06] <Kilos> ai! how am i gonna remember that man
[18:08] <Kilos> Maaz, tell mazal on freenode tell him he just needs gnu screen to configure switches, no hyperterminal needed
[18:08] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[18:09] <Kilos> Maaz, google what is gnu screen
[18:09] <inetpro> Maaz: tell mazal You should know GNU screen already (if not, go look it up) and it turns out that you can run 'screen /dev/ttyS0'  for configuring your switches
[18:09] <Maaz> Kilos: "GNU Screen - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation" http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ :: "GNU Screen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen :: "GNU screen [start] - Aperiodic" http://aperiodic.net/screen/start :: "GNU screen [quick_reference] - Aperiodic" http://aperiodic.net/screen/quick_reference :: "GNU Screen: an
[18:09] <Maaz> introduction and beginner's tutorial || kuro5hin.org" http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/…
[18:09] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[18:35] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: !
[18:35] <Kilos> he not here Vince-0
[18:35] <Vince-0> ek sien so yar
[18:35] <Vince-0> yarr
[18:36] <Kilos> or still showing away anyway
[18:36] <Vince-0> or was yesterday talk like a pirate day
[18:36] <Kilos> hehe
[18:37] <Kilos> i think friday aint a good night for meets
[18:52] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[18:52] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[18:52] <magespawn> Just got home
[18:52] <Kilos> wow
[18:53] <Kilos> overtime already
[18:54] <magespawn> Yup
[18:54] <magespawn> Some guy decided to park his opel bakkie in a lala palm
[18:55] <Kilos> some unweaned oke
[19:14] <Kilos> hey magespawn now ive found it was the psu causing rebooting i wonder if i should chance putting the 1g ram card i first thought was causing it
[19:17] <magespawn> Might be an idea
[19:18] <Kilos> will start building up courage
[19:18] <Kilos> its very lekker when everything works
[19:18] <Kilos> yeah thats righty
[19:18] <magespawn> Indeed
[19:52] <Kilos> if i dont get back i fell asleep before the extra ram was in
[19:53] <Kilos> in that case night all. sleep tight


[15:41] <chaslinux> Wondering about thunar-archive-plugin? I noticed it will create archives for most files if they're right clicked on, but this option doesn't appear when you right click on a LibreOffice (just tried .ods) document. Thinking it should since many new users will probably zip/archive documents? I wonder if this is functionality that can be added to
[15:41] <chaslinux> thunar-archive-plugin?
[15:57] <brainwash> chaslinux: are you using the latest version?
[15:59] <chaslinux> I'm using whatever is in 20.04 with updates. It does give me the create archive prompt for other file types (.sh, .png, .desktop files), just not LibreOffice files since I guess .ods is a type of archive?
[15:59] <brainwash> it's a zip file I think
[15:59] <chaslinux> I don't have an issue, I just use zip in a terminal, but I know people I support might ask about how they can create a zip file.
[16:00] <chaslinux> I can get around it by opening engrampa and creating a new zip file, but it creates a lot more work for people without computer skills.
[16:01] <brainwash> https://gitlab.xfce.org/thunar-plugins/thunar-archive-plugin/-/commit/fa3ad98d904909267501c0dd05e423bd7873835d
[16:01] <chaslinux> Oh thank you!
[16:01] <brainwash> I think this fix is not included in a release yet
[16:04] <chaslinux> So dumb question, how do I apply this .c file to the currently installed thunar plugin? (Sorry, never took any CS)
[16:06] <brainwash> it's not that easy I guess
[16:06] <brainwash> maybe there is a guide out there (somewhere)
[16:07] <chaslinux> Going to try: diff --git a/thunar-archive-plugin/tap-provider.c b/thunar-archive-plugin/tap-provider.c
[16:08] <brainwash> https://gitlab.xfce.org/thunar-plugins/thunar-archive-plugin/-/commit/fa3ad98d904909267501c0dd05e423bd7873835d.patch
[16:08] <brainwash> this is the patch file
[16:26] <chaslinux> Think I'm just going to clone the thunar-archive-plugin and compile it and see if it fixes the issue... Thanks.
[16:29] <brainwash> you'll probably have to install it to /usr and not /usr/local
[16:29] <brainwash> so that Thunar picks it up


[09:01] <eboyjr> Hey I have a node server and I think it's starting to soon and fails and gets respawned too many times
[09:01] <eboyjr> And then it doesn't start
[09:02] <eboyjr> What can I start it one so that it is basically the last to start?
[09:02] <eboyjr> start it on*
[09:05] <eboyjr> The cookbook thing says I can use: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo)


[09:19] <cjwatson> wgrant: \o/
[09:34] <wgrant> cjwatson: http://derived-archive.dogfood.content.paddev.net/ is now a thing, btw. So we should be set up for QA there
[09:34] <wgrant> (though DF's all dead at the moment for some translations experiments)
[09:35] <cjwatson> Nice, thanks.
[11:21] <wgrant> cjwatson: So you intend to ndt 17048 some time today?
[11:23] <cjwatson> Yep, basically as soon as it's passed both buildbots
[11:23] <wgrant> Great