[00:00] <c03> hiya
[00:00] <c03> can someone help me set up my glx on my intel card?
[00:00] <c03> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:01] <c03> when i try to run glxgears
[00:04] <sdcnlab> uggh
[00:04] <sdcnlab> can someone please help me with these dependency errors im havign with opencv
[00:04] <sdcnlab> and libcv-dev
[00:04] <sdcnlab> libopencv
[00:05] <jen__> can anyone help me with mypaint?
[00:05] <escott_> c03, !paste the output of glxinfo
[00:06] <jen__> I still cant get it to work :(
[00:06] <c03> !paste
[00:06] <mephist0> jen__: mypaint? never heard about. have you tryed gimp?
[00:06] <c03> http://paste.ubuntu.com/699407/
[00:06] <jen__> yes I've tried gimp, I like mypaint better
[00:07] <mephist0> jen__: is it vectorial?
[00:07] <escott_> c03, what kind of video card is this?
[00:07] <jen__> mephist0, whats that mean?
[00:07] <c03> intel / nvidia gtm520m
[00:08] <c03> it's an asus u36sd
[00:08] <escott_> c03, so if this has switchable graphics you probably want to set it to a single type or look into vgaswitcheroo (or is it bumblebee)
[00:08] <mephist0> vectorial means based on math equations. Gimp works on pixels. more artistic.
[00:09] <c03> yea, I tried disabling the nvidia chip with ironhide
[00:09] <jen__> mephist0,  no I dont think so, its paint brushes and colors, oh and layers thats just about it. But Im so used to doing all my art with it I dont wanna lose it
[00:09] <kermit1> how can i make ubuntu boot by itself?  every time i need to go hook up a keyboard to press enter at grub, and press "S" if it ever cant find a drive in fstab.
[00:10] <mephist0> jen__: whats the problem?
[00:11] <escott_> c03, and if you are using the nvidia card use jockey-gtk to install drivers
[00:11] <jen__> mephist0,  i click on the icon and it never starts up, there's no errors in the terminal I dont think
[00:11] <zoned> just installed phpmyadmin ... what is the default username/pass?
[00:12] <laanan> anyone who uses BasKet ever have it crash after dropping an image into a note? Now it just crashes at startup...
[00:12] <lgagaz> is there a command like shred but that can do directories too?
[00:12] <mephist0> jen__: when you execute it on terminal gets frezed?
[00:12] <jen__> I dont know, how do you do that?
[00:12] <escott_> lgagaz, no. they aren't regular files, but you can shred the files in the directory
[00:13] <escott_> lgagaz, or you shred the entire partition
[00:13] <mephist0> jen__: open a terminal go to applications->accesories->terminal. Then execute mypaint
[00:14] <jen__> mephist0,  just type it in?
[00:14] <mephist0> yes. then see what is says?
[00:14] <c03> escott_: I disabled the nvidia card successfully now
[00:14] <c03> but I still can't start glxgears
[00:14] <c03> and glxinfo is the same
[00:15] <escott_> c03, if you want to use the intel drivers you'll need to make sure the entire intel stack is installed including mesa
[00:15] <c03> how do I do this?
[00:16] <escott_> c03, make sure the nvidia drivers are uninstalled
[00:17] <c03> how?
[00:17] <c03> apt-get purge nvidia?
[00:17] <squishy> http://pastebin.com/97QuEP2R
[00:17] <squishy> here's what it says
[00:18] <escott_> c03, use jockey-gtk to remove them or synaptic. i dont know the package name
[00:18] <Guest66823> :)
[00:18] <c03> the driver is not activated
[00:19] <lgagaz> escott but i wanna shred a bunch of files in many subdirs too which is why i asked if theres one that works like shred but does directories ;d
[00:19] <squeeeshie> im the same one with the mypaint
[00:20] <squeeeshie> problem*
[00:20] <escott_> lgagaz, find -exec them
[00:21] <squeeeshie> wha?
[00:23] <jen__> can anyone help me?
[00:23] <c03> escott_: The nvidia drivers are not active, the chip is disabled
[00:24] <c03> escott_: How should I proceed?
[00:24] <mephist0> jen__: https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mypaint%2BIndexError%253A%2Blist%2Bindex%2Bout%2Bof%2Brange&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=FXm&channel=fs&biw=1600&bih=759&source=hp&q=mypaint+IndexError:+list+index+out+of+range&pbx=1&oq=mypaint+IndexError:+list+index+out+of+range&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=33629l34041l0l34980l2l2l0l0l0l0l536l746l2-1.5-1l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=b3c88bd7
[00:24] <mephist0> 90e141b2
[00:24] <sdcnlab> hi guys i just fixed my depdency issue with --force-overwrite in dpkg
[00:24] <sdcnlab> but should i report this or somethign?
[00:24] <sdcnlab> its taken me like hours to get it working
[00:25] <jefimenko> is there a problem with apt pinning packages with names formatting in certain way? i'm having trouble pinning libsqlite3-0
[00:25] <jefimenko> apt-cache policy shows that it's not found (even though it IS there, i can apt-get install it)
[00:25] <jefimenko> my preferences file looks like http://pastebin.com/3BPYKH4j
[00:25] <kermit> how do i make grub not require me to hit enter at boot?
[00:25] <mephist0> jen__: cant help you with that. some people talk about some mypaint bug at certain version. you probably have to downgrade
[00:25] <jefimenko> this is what "apt-cache policy" shows http://pastebin.com/C0t6kX70
[00:26] <dr_willis> kermit:  it has an auto.timeout option
[00:26] <jen__> the strange thing is...it will open on my moms account on my computer
[00:26] <dr_willis> check the grub configs
[00:26] <sniperjo_> if i connected to my board with serial, it would say last login from …. would it sound weird to have ttyS2 instead of tty02 ?
[00:27] <longtheta> Hi, is there an alternative interface to the man pages other than the `man` command in terminal?
[00:28] <longtheta> Like, is there a way to view the /usr/docs/ in the browser or something?
[00:29] <jen__> nevermind, I will just make another account for that soley
[00:29] <jen__> but thanks for the help :)
[00:30] <dr_willis> longtheta:  ther is some tool. or jout point thebrowser there
[00:30] <kermit> dr_willis: where do i set that?
[00:30] <longtheta> btw dr_willis, where are the docs? i'm trying to find them right now
[00:30] <longtheta> i vaguely remember they were at /usr/.../docs
[00:30] <jcgs> Hi dies anyone know why ubuntu's thunderbird is still at version 3.1 when the current stable is version 7? how did we get so behind?
[00:30] <longtheta> not sure the exact path though
[00:31] <jcgs> longtheta: have you tried xman? that's pretty basic, and might take some getting used to...
[00:31] <dr_willis> !grub2| kermit
[00:31] <WakiMiko_> halp
[00:31] <WakiMiko_> hal
[00:31] <WakiMiko_> p
[00:32] <longtheta> jcgs: well, it's better than just man, but it's still fugly :(
[00:32] <longtheta> man at least looks better in a way
[00:32] <dr_willis> longtheta:  usr share docs
[00:32] <WakiMiko_> is this the place where i whine about weird as shit behaviour
[00:32] <jcgs> longtheta, what's so wrong with less anyway?
[00:32] <dr_willis> WakiMiko_: not really
[00:32] <kermit> dr_willis: thank you
[00:33] <WakiMiko_> there is nothing wrong with less
[00:33] <WakiMiko_> its pretty much vi
[00:33] <jcgs> longtheta: i reckon it's much faster than anything else?
[00:33] <WakiMiko_> with less featues
[00:33] <WakiMiko_> r
[00:33] <longtheta> i'm not talking about speed jcgs, that's not the bottleneck
[00:33] <jefimenko> any ideas on pinning?
[00:33] <longtheta> it's just man pages are so long and obtuse
[00:33] <jefimenko> i asked in debian and they directed me here
[00:33] <WakiMiko_> dr_willis: i got a problem though
[00:33] <longtheta> i wish there was a browser like-way to read them, or pdf
[00:33] <jefimenko> even though i think it *might* be an underling issue with the apt tools
[00:33] <jcgs> WakiMiko: there are things wrong with less, like the fact that the first time you use it, you spend about 10 mins wondering why it doesn't quit when you press ctrl+c
[00:34] <WakiMiko_> jcgs: q
[00:34] <jcgs> longtheta: why?
[00:34] <WakiMiko_> anywayyyyyyyyyyyy
[00:34] <DasEi> jcgs: http://tinyurl.com/6eubz4k
[00:34] <longtheta> i'd like to actually read them without frustration, like normal texts on my computer jcgs
[00:35] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: I know fine know, I just have a memory
[00:35] <longtheta> most early unix cmds quit with q as well, if interactive mode
[00:35] <WakiMiko_> ok guys i really got a problem
[00:35] <WakiMiko_> the problem is im drunk
[00:35] <WakiMiko_> so im not completely sure what happened
[00:36] <WakiMiko_> fact is, bevore i was drunk i installed apting throught apt
[00:36] <jcgs> DasEi: is there one for stable builds? is daily different from nightly?
[00:36] <WakiMiko_> accordring to the logs apt or whatever UNINSTALLED gnome network manager at the same time
[00:36] <WakiMiko_> for no reason whatsoever
[00:36] <WakiMiko_> now what
[00:37] <DasEi> jcgs: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[00:37] <DasEi> jcgs: there are one for stable and betas
[00:37] <longtheta> oh sweet: http://www.macgeekery.com/tips/cli/pretty-print_manual_pages_as_ps_pdf_or_html
[00:37] <DasEi> ones*
[00:37] <dr_willis> configure network by hand and reinstall what you need
[00:38] <SIFTU> longtheta: did you try http://tips4linux.com/easily-read-man-pages-in-firefox/
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> dr_willis: well i already did that otherwise i woudlnt be talking to yA
[00:38] <alkafoo> longtheta: ew
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> u know im a unix expert
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> im just trying to find out what happened
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> im on thinkpad t420
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> i installed arping
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> suspeneded
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> and left da house
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> then i came back
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> drunk
[00:38] <longtheta> SIFTU: no, that looks like the easiest way, thanks!
[00:38] <WakiMiko_> and no network
[00:39] <FloodBot1> WakiMiko_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <WakiMiko_> u know my current state is making things more difficult
[00:39] <alkafoo> SIFTU: SIFT you!
[00:40] <jcgs> DasEi: all it says is "mozilla daily build team". Is daily the same as nightly, because that's just  too bleeding edge for me, I could probably cope with betas, but I'd prefer just a normall stable version of thunderbird 7, like the one for liunx x86 that seems to be on their website
[00:40] <escott_> c03, im not entirely sure. i know you need mesa gem and then intel drivers
[00:40] <DasEi> jcgs: same yes
[00:40] <SIFTU> alkafoo: ?
[00:40] <ionite> hi everyone.
[00:40] <alkafoo> weird, you got it last time
[00:40] <alkafoo> ionite: hi
[00:40] <jcgs> DasEi daily = bad :( stable = good
[00:41] <ionite> i'm having problems at Step 5. Can anyone help me? http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10
[00:41] <SIFTU> alkafoo: :)
[00:41] <alkafoo> ionite: what problems
[00:41] <escott_> c03, try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:41] <cornell> Anybody here use Pulseaudio?
[00:41] <ionite> alkafoo: realteck driver compatibility for ubuntu.
[00:41] <c03> okay
[00:41] <ionite> alkafoo: anyway, what do they mean /path/to at step 5?
[00:42] <c03> escott_: already newest
[00:42] <WakiMiko_> you guys are no real help
[00:42] <jcgs> cornell: probably everybody...
[00:43] <WakiMiko_> though i probably cant blame you for that
[00:43] <WakiMiko_> i will report back when im sober
[00:43] <escott_> c03, what does your xorg.0.log say when it tries to load the intel drivers
[00:43] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: good luck anyway :)
[00:43] <DasEi> jcgs: I'm bretty sure there is a repo somewhere, as there is http://tinyurl.com/6k92a6z, but I'd have to look myself, I use betas in jails, so not my problem
[00:43] <ionite> hi. can anyone help me with my problem? it's a wireless problem.
[00:44] <ionite> How do i perform step 5?                    http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10
[00:44] <cornell> thx jcgs.  Do y'all know about any documentation "for dummies".  I've checked some things I've found with google, and I'm not catching the basics....
[00:44] <SIFTU> c03: what kernel version are you running?
[00:44] <tonyyarusso> ionite: Which part of that step is confusing to you?
[00:44] <WakiMiko_> is there a command to report exactly what packages where installed at what time?
[00:45] <c03> Linux u36 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:45] <ionite> tonyyarusso: step 5. what does it mean to replace with /path/to ?
[00:45] <cornell> Does every machine on the LAN run a server?  Any given server is a sender or receiver?
[00:45] <kermit> whats the (S) mean in /proc/mdstat ?
[00:45] <ionite> tonyyarusso: my downloaded file is at /Downloads
[00:45] <escott_> kermit, synced?
[00:45] <SIFTU> c03: ok thats supported.. and your "lspci|grep VGA" for the intel card
[00:45] <alkafoo> ionite: it means cd to the dir the tarball is in
[00:45] <mephist0> hi there.  someone know how to use keyboard as mouse? tryed <shift><cntrl><num lock> and no luck. Im looking for some generic linux solution. Is there config files?
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> ionite: It means that if you saved the file to ~/Downloads, the command would be sudo tar zxvf ~/Documents/rtl8192se.......
[00:46] <alkafoo> ionite: then run sudo tar xzvf whatever.tar.gz
[00:46] <DasEi> ionite: cd to the location you d/l'ed the tarball to, then untar it
[00:46] <tonyyarusso> ionite: In other words, the filesystem path to the tarball.
[00:46] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: aptitude search * |grep ^i
[00:46] <tonyyarusso> ionite: (Side note - /Documents doesn't exist - ~/Documents, aka /home/ionite/Documents does.)
[00:46] <ionite> DasEi: tonyyarusso alkafoo so what do i type exactly? i'm sorry i'm such a noob to terminal
[00:46] <alkafoo> ionite: so if it was in ~/Downloads/, you could've run sudo tar xzvf /home/foo/Downloads/foo.tar.gz
[00:46] <DasEi> ionite: or better make an extra dir like sudo mkdir rtl, then move it there, then unpack
[00:47] <tonyyarusso> ionite: You just replace the /path/to/ part with the path to the directory you saved it to.
[00:47] <acuster> s
[00:47] <WakiMiko_> unfortunately i dont have aptitude installed
[00:47] <c03> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:47] <jcgs> cornell, I'm probably in the same position, pulseaudio is very complicated from what i gather, and was partially invented to alleviate problems caused by a mess of sound servers in linux. do you want to do anything specific?
[00:47] <c03> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1050 (rev ff)
[00:47] <SIFTU> c03: also you dont have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf do you
[00:47] <c03> SIFTU:
[00:48] <SIFTU> c03: yep same as mine
[00:48] <SIFTU> c03: well the intel part
[00:48] <c03> nope, no xorg.conf
[00:48] <c03> I'm fairly sure the nvidia is disabled though
[00:48] <ionite> tonyyarusso:  how do i identify my path? it's in downlaods. so is it              sudo tar xzvf /home/ionite/Downloads/8192ar.gz
[00:48] <WakiMiko_> i dare anyone here to install arping
[00:48] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: shame, i think it's great.. I'll see what I can turn up with apt-get
[00:48] <SIFTU> c03: can you pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:48] <longtheta> Is there a way to view the memory stats as a gnome applet in the gnome panel?
[00:48] <longtheta> That would be Really Nice
[00:49] <longtheta> like a way to run a terminal cmd to it even
[00:49] <longtheta> cat /proc/mem/ | grep -i "whatever'
[00:49] <tonyyarusso> ionite: That looks correct, yes.  You can confirm that by changing to that directory, doing a list, and seeing if it's there - `cd /home/ionite/Downloads && ls`
[00:49] <c03> SIFTU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/699425/
[00:49] <cornell> Yeah, jcgs... I run a ubuntu box as my main workstation, and sometimes my personal laptop running internet radio, and sometimes my company laptop.  I listen to one with headphones.  So, I miss warning beeps, alarms whatever.  I want all the machine's sounds to go to one machine, and I listen to that one.
[00:49] <alkafoo> ionite: wget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&& sudo tar xzvf 92ce_se_de_linux_mac80211_0003.0620.2011.tar.gz
[00:49] <WakiMiko_> jcgs: i really think something strange happened
[00:49] <DasEi> longtheta: conky and htop ?
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> longtheta: "Classic" (Gnome 2) interfaces have a system monitor applet.  No idea for Unity or Gnome 3.
[00:50] <longtheta> i'm on 10.04 so still 'classic' tonyyarusso
[00:50] <longtheta> sys monitor is hardly useful though
[00:50] <longtheta> it's just a bunch of colors moving with too little space to gauge to be useful
[00:50] <ionite> tonyyarusso: but i got this error root@nx116:/usr/src# sudo tar xzvf /home/David/Downloads/8192.tar.gz tar: /home/David/Downloads/8192.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors root@nx116:/usr/src#
[00:51] <tonyyarusso> longtheta: What are you hoping it will look like?  Conky perhaps?
[00:51] <c03> Should I restart X when I disabled my nvidia chip? Would it make any difference?
[00:51] <longtheta> just numbers, % of ram usage
[00:51] <WakiMiko_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6457172/arp.png all i did was "apt-get install arping"
[00:51] <WakiMiko_> it seems to uinstall all the gnome network stuff
[00:51] <longtheta> don't want to use conky, just want gnomeapplet
[00:51] <tonyyarusso> ionite: is 8192.tar.gz the file name?  You could use 'locate' if you're not sure where you put it.
[00:51] <WakiMiko_> note: i didnt use the ubuntu software center
[00:52] <ionite> tonyyarusso: yes it is. i changed the file name to 8192 for easier and shorter typing time.
[00:52] <longtheta> ynkow
[00:52] <longtheta> sysmonitor applet is actually pretty useful
[00:52] <longtheta> didn't know you can have separate graph for mem usage and have hoverover for % stats and stuff
[00:52] <tonyyarusso> ionite: Use ls to confirm that it's where you think it should be I guess.
[00:52] <longtheta> much better
[00:52] <longtheta> thanks
[00:52] <c03> SIFTU: get anything out of it?
[00:53] <SIFTU> c03: how did you disable? blacklist the nouveau module?
[00:53] <escott_> c03, you should restart the computer after disabling xorg, and remove/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.config
[00:53] <c03> okay
[00:53] <SIFTU> c03: only that one error.. and I'm not sure why it refers to Nvidia as there is no nvidia module being loaded
[00:53] <escott_> c03, and when we say disable nvidia we mean disable it in the bios
[00:54] <SIFTU> escott_: you cant on most
[00:54] <lgagaz> whats the best FS to use for purely storage, i guess for speed/stability?
[00:54] <c03> yeah, i'm dual booting to windows, so that's not gonna happen ^^
[00:54] <c03> I disabled it with Ironhide
[00:54] <c03> it's a continuation of bumblebee
[00:54] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: dpkg-query -l |grep^.i
[00:55] <WakiMiko_> i think the problem is that arping conflicts with some iputils programs
[00:55] <c03> trying the reboot
[00:55] <ionite> tonyyarusso: why doesn't locate identify 8192.tar.gz ?             david@nx116:~$ locate 8192.tar.gz /home/david/Downloads/realtek8192.tar.gz david@nx116:~$ ls Desktop  Documents  Downloads  examples.desktop  Linux  Music  PDF  Pictures  Public  Templates  Ubuntu One  Videos  WT 2010 david@nx116:~$ cd Downloads david@nx116:~/Downloads$ ls 19_Ps_CHM-CHS_143.mp3  19_Ps_CHM-CHS_145.mp3  19_Ps_CHM-CHS_147.mp3  19_Ps_CHM-CHS_149.mp3  8192
[00:55] <jcgs> sorry there should be a space after the grep
[00:55] <SIFTU> c03: yeah ubuntus bumblebee.. depending on what you are doing the intel card is just fine especiailly with kernel 3.0+
[00:55] <WakiMiko_> and it uninstalled half of my gnome network stuff
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> lgagaz: With the advent of ext4, I've seen very little reason to bother with any of the other filesystems unless you have a very specific purpose.
[00:55] <c03> brb
[00:55] <ionite> tonyyarusso: realtek8192 is the old file. i wanna use the new file which is 8192.tar.gz
[00:56] <tonyyarusso> ionite: Probably because you haven't run 'updatedb' since creating 8192.tar.gz (locate uses a database, not a live search)
[00:56] <c03> back
[00:56] <c03> still no glxgears
[00:57] <c03> and glxinfo is the same
[00:57] <tonyyarusso> ionite: additionally note - file names are always case-sensitive.  /home/david is not the same as /home/David
[00:57] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: indeed, aptitude tells me that arping conflicts with iputils-ping and iputils-arping
[00:57] <WakiMiko_> damnit i think i just hit "y"
[00:57] <ionite> tonyyarusso: so how do i update DB?
[00:58] <WakiMiko_> now i think apt uninstalled everything that depends on iputils-ping and iputils-arping
[00:58] <escott> ionite, sudo updatedb
[00:58] <WakiMiko_> which includes the gome network manager
[00:58] <SIFTU> c03: not sure I dont run ironhide.. blacklisting works for me
[00:58] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: and network-manager depends on iputils-arping therin lies your problem, I think
[00:58] <WakiMiko_> now how do i get that stuff back
[00:58] <tonyyarusso> ionite: `sudo updatedb` will run it manually.  Otherwise cron normally runs it automaticall, by default once per day iirc.
[00:58] <ionite> tonyyarusso: oic. hang on while i try it out ok?
[00:58] <WakiMiko_> i have no idea what else it removed
[00:58] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: are you using wired?
[00:58] <WakiMiko_> no
[00:59] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: can you? do you have another option?
[00:59] <WakiMiko_> im using pretty much a default 11.04 install
[00:59] <WakiMiko_> im sure i can get wireless back
[00:59] <c03> SIFTU: how did you blacklist?
[00:59] <WakiMiko_> but i would like to revert my installition to the state b4 apt removed the conficts
[00:59] <c03> I think I did it, but I don't know if it worked
[00:59] <c03> well obviously it didn't somehow ^^
[01:00] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: is the problem that you can't install anything because you don't have a network connection
[01:00] <WakiMiko_> no
[01:00] <SIFTU> c03:
[01:00] <jcgs> no?
[01:00] <SIFTU> sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:00] <WakiMiko_> i got my eth0 connection back up
[01:00] <WakiMiko_> im using it atm
[01:00] <WakiMiko_> but i want to restore my ubuntu distro to the state before apt removed essential programs
[01:01] <jcgs> kk, then sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[01:01] <c03> SIFTU: and in goes?
[01:01] <jcgs> if you use gnome that is...
[01:01] <SIFTU> c03: blacklist nouveau
[01:01] <SIFTU> c03: blacklist nvidia
[01:01] <WakiMiko_> doing this jcgs
[01:02] <c03> roger, done
[01:02] <max_> hello
[01:02] <WakiMiko_> restarting x11
[01:02] <c03> and then reboot??
[01:02] <ionite> tonyyarusso: now i'm stuck at step 7                 sudo cp -rf firmware/RTL8192SE /lib/firmware
[01:02] <WakiMiko_> just to test this
[01:02] <SIFTU> c03: you dont have the nvidia driver installed do you?
[01:02] <WakiMiko_> brb
[01:02] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: or better sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <c03> nope
[01:02] <ionite> tonyyarusso: i got this error:        david@nx116:/usr/src/rtl_92ce_92se_92de_linux_mac80211_0003.0620.2011$ ls base.c  cam.c  core.c  debug.c  efuse.c  firmware  Makefile  pci.h  ps.h  rc.h    regd.c  release_note  rtl8192de  wifi.h base.h  cam.h  core.h  debug.h  efuse.h  Kconfig   pci.c     ps.c   rc.c  readme  regd.h  rtl8192ce     rtl8192se david@nx116:/usr/src/rtl_92ce_92se_92de_linux_mac80211_0003.0620.2011$ sudo cp -rf firmwa
[01:02] <c03> I apt-get purged it
[01:02] <WakiMiko_> ubuntu desktop should depend on all that essential stuff yeah
[01:02] <WakiMiko_> ?
[01:02] <jcgs> yup
[01:02] <c03> SIFTU: reboot ?
[01:03] <SIFTU> c03: sure
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> ok im gonna uninstall the gnome network manager stuff
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> and install the ubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <jcgs> srsly? you need that, it comes with ubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> im kinda anal about dependencies
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> i know
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> i just reinstalled it
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> beceause the conficlt removed it
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> ionite: You're getting cut off.  If you want to show multiple commands, use pastebin.
[01:03] <WakiMiko_> but id rather have it installed as a dependeny
[01:04] <c03_> same stuff in glxinfo
[01:04] <c03_> and still no glxgears
[01:04] <WakiMiko_> i think im kinda OCD
[01:04] <jcgs> WakiMiko_: good luck anyway, I'm going to bed because it's 1am :( hope it goes well
[01:04] <WakiMiko_> thanks :D
[01:04] <jcgs> oops 2am cr*p
[01:05] <lgagaz> does wine play world of warcraft well?
[01:06] <dr_willis> lgagaz:  it can play it i hear.
[01:06] <c03_> lgagaz: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_functionality_on_Wine
[01:06] <ionite> tonyyarusso:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699434/
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> ionite: I need an ls of the firmware directory too, since the thing you want is in it.
[01:08] <sdcnlab> ok guys i have a question
[01:08] <sdcnlab> im trying to install this debian
[01:08] <sdcnlab> but its complaining about a missing package
[01:08] <sdcnlab> but that package is there just with like a character off
[01:08] <sdcnlab> and it says its not installed
[01:08] <SIFTU> c03_: i think it stil have the nvidia opengl libs still installed
[01:08] <ionite> tonyyarusso: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699435/
[01:08] <DasEi> !appdb | lgagaz
[01:09] <WakiMiko_> goddamn this is over my head
[01:09] <WakiMiko_> is there any package that all default packages installed with a new 11.04 install depend on?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> ionite: You're trying to do something with 'rtl8192se', which doesn't exist.
[01:10] <ionite> tonyyarusso: the folder doesn't exit u mean?
[01:10] <ionite> tonyyarusso: *exist
[01:11] <Cube``> can i download ubuntu 11.10 beta or whatever its called now, install it, and then when the final version comes out, just update?
[01:11] <Cube``> or will i have to reinstall the whole system?
[01:11] <c03_> SIFTU: how do I kill it with fire?
[01:12] <DasEi> Cube can dist-upgrade
[01:12] <edbian> Cube``: you won't need to reinstall
[01:12] <edbian> Cube``: If you are running ubuntu you can dist-upgrade to it now
[01:12] <shawn_> whats the code to find what video card u have
[01:12] <DasEi> Cube: always fine to seperate /home case of problems
[01:12] <edbian> shawn_: lspci
[01:12] <edbian> shawn_: It will print a lot of stuff
[01:13] <DasEi> shawn_: lshw | grep vga
[01:14] <shawn_> kk ty both
[01:14] <shawn_> inow why dont i have the nvidia settings in system -> admin
[01:14] <shawn_> ??
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> ionite: correct.  There is no such folder as rtl8192se, so you can't very well copy it.
[01:15] <DasEi> shawn_: driver not installed ?
[01:15] <M3t0r> why is `which` pointing to the right version, but bash isn't invoking it? https://gist.github.com/1252404
[01:15] <shawn_> yes it is
[01:15] <shawn_> lol
[01:15] <shawn_> i just installed it
[01:15] <werever> hi! anybody can help me please? I am on ubuntu 11.04 and internet and any kind of network connection are disabled cause I uninstalled by error packages for network, drivers are ok
[01:15] <Cube``> edbian: oh i am!
[01:16] <DasEi> werever: edit /etc/network/interfaces, restart network
[01:16] <shawn_> is there a cmd to see if tht one driver is installed?
[01:16] <shawn_> video driver
[01:16] <Cube``> edbian: the thing is, 10.10 could connect to my tethering phone, but 11.04 cant, so im trying to dist-upgrade to see if that bug is fixed in 11.10, else ill go back to 10.10. doesthat make sense?
[01:16] <danileigh79> werever: I'm gonna send you some instructions
[01:17] <bsmith0931> i just grabbed the docs for the latest ubuntu kenel update, and , one quick thing, why are they compressed, they're text files, how big could they possibly be, in aggregate?
[01:17] <ionite> tonyyarusso: but i can access the folder?          http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699437/
[01:18] <werever> thanks DasEi, edit command says "unknown mime-type" and no edit mailcap found for type aplicattion/octet/stream
[01:18] <werever> thanks danileigh79
[01:18] <DasEi> werever: gksu gedit is the actual command
[01:18] <werever> ok
[01:18] <M3t0r> why is `which` pointing to the right version, but bash isn't invoking it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699438/
[01:19] <werever> DasEi done, how restart network?
[01:19] <shawn_> whats better ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10
[01:19] <DasEi> werever: how do you connect, wired ?
[01:19] <danileigh79> werever: what's your network card?
[01:19] <werever> broadcom
[01:20] <danileigh79> werever: Broadcom what? what's the model?
[01:20] <DasEi> werever: sudo service networking restart to restart (but just when done)
[01:20] <werever> I can connect both wired or wireless, but gnome panel doesnt have networks icons currently
[01:20] <werever> 1 sec
[01:20] <danileigh79> DasEi: I had this problem, I have a set instructions for network card drivers failing in 11.04
[01:20] <danileigh79> DasEi: nm, I missunderstood his problem
[01:21] <danileigh79> werever: I apologize, I missunderstood his problem
[01:21] <danileigh79> werever: your problem
[01:21] <DasEi> ;)
[01:21] <werever> ddanileigh79 dontworry, I cant see current driver cause drivers manager isnt loading
[01:21] <werever> danileigh79 dontworry, I cant see current driver cause drivers manager isnt loading
[01:22] <werever> thanks dasei
[01:22] <DasEi> werever: connectivity back ?
[01:22] <danileigh79> werever: id 11.04 by itself or side by side with windows?
[01:22] <danileigh79> DasEi: He's saying he can't see his networks icon on Gnome panel
[01:23] <werever> 11.04 byself, now I am on a second computer using windows and xchat, my lap is onside me
[01:23] <DasEi> danileigh79: and before he couldn't connect, so to apt anything he first..
[01:23] <WakiMiko_> yay i fixed it
[01:23] <werever> dasei no, error says:
[01:23] <werever> dasei: restart unknown service
[01:23] <sdcnlab> hey DasEi would you mind giving me a little advice, im installing a deb and it requires libcommonplayer3 wheras the package name installed on the system is libcommonplayer3.0
[01:23] <Chris3> I am trying to complete an install on a 2nd physical harddrive that I put in my Windows box.  Went through the install, but now it hangs on startup.  Wondering if I picked the right root, or if anyone else can help me troubleshoot?
[01:23] <sdcnlab> therefore it says package isnt installed
[01:24] <Da|Mummy> psensor is only showing me gpu, and my hdds. why not cpu?
[01:24] <DasEi> sec
[01:27] <werever> dasei I tried this: $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:27] <werever> without success
[01:27] <DasEi> werever: sudo service networking stop && sudo service networking start
[01:27] <DasEi> sdcnlab: which deb you try to install ?
[01:27] <sdcnlab> https://launchpad.net/~thjc/+archive/ppa/+build/2343484
[01:28] <sdcnlab> stage
[01:28] <sdcnlab> no respository :<
[01:28] <sdcnlab> and i really dont wanna compile it from source
[01:28] <werever> dasei I found that: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-restart-start-stop-networking-service-howto/ infact isnt working yet
[01:28] <sdcnlab> is there a way either change the debian so it looks for the right name library
[01:28] <sdcnlab> or a link to the same library so it can match the name
[01:29] <werever> dasei I think there are many packages damaged or uninstalled
[01:29] <gh0st> Can someone help?! I've the numbers going into the list and the list displaying but I can't get them to insert into the list in order! Does anyone have any tips? http://mysticpaste.com/view/10134
[01:30] <Cube``> how do i check which version of ubuntu i have installed?
[01:30] <Da|Mummy> psensor is only showing me gpu, and my hdds. why not cpu?
[01:30] <jrib> !version | Cube``
[01:30] <Cube``> thanks
[01:30] <Cube``> wut
[01:31] <Cube``> i just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:31] <Chheapshot> why when I make a new user in kubuntu and login with it, I must set up my wireless again? There is no way to use my main user accounts wireless network settings? Kubuntu 11.04
[01:31] <Cube``> and now i still have ubuntu 11.04
[01:31] <Cube``> !?!?!
[01:31] <DasEi> werever : you put a valid section for eth0 and wlan0 in interfaces ?
[01:31] <DasEi> werever: you use dhcp ?
[01:31] <DasEi> !dist-upgrade | Cube``
[01:32] <DasEi> !upgrade | Cube``, is what you want
[01:32] <werever> dasei I use dhcp, and Iam not sure about "interfaces" settings
[01:32] <DasEi> sdcnlab: is there a nedd for that ppa ? libstage is in repos
[01:33] <DasEi> werever: allow-hotplug eth0
[01:33] <DasEi>                iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:33] <werever> dasei for example, I tried to share folders and message says "you dont have neccesary packages installed"
[01:34] <cornell> Well... TTFN
[01:34] <sdcnlab> which repoe
[01:34] <Cube``> DasEi: tgabjs
[01:34] <Cube``> DasEi: thanks
[01:34] <sdcnlab> nothing is coming up for me DasEi
[01:34] <werever> dasei allow-hotplug returns "command not found"
[01:36] <shawn_> anyone know how to fix the firefox bug on ubuntu 10.04
[01:36] <shawn_> ?
[01:36] <DasEi> werever: these are two lines for interfaces
[01:37] <DasEi> sdcnlab: it's in universy a lib for robtic stuff
[01:37] <DasEi> universe*
[01:37] <sdcnlab> science?
[01:37] <sdcnlab> or universe
[01:38] <werever> dasei I dont understand, sorry =(
[01:38] <SIFTU> c03: I'm guessing you had nvidia installed at one time
[01:38] <DasEi> werever : you put a valid section for eth0 and wlan0 in interfaces ?
[01:38] <sdcnlab> omg
[01:38] <sdcnlab> i forgot to put in universe
[01:38] <sdcnlab> wow i wasted so much time
[01:38] <DasEi> werever: these are two lines for interfaces , coming again now :
[01:38] <DasEi> werever: allow-hotplug eth0
[01:39] <DasEi>                iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:39] <DasEi> werever: afterwards restart network
[01:39] <nn> where does ubuntu save themes to?
[01:39] <sdcnlab> no nvm
[01:40] <sdcnlab> the universe is there
[01:40] <werever> dasei I think I am a complete dummy, I dont understand what "interfaces" mean
[01:40] <mephist0> hi there.  someone know how to use keyboard as mouse? tryed <shift><cntrl><num lock> and no luck. Im looking for some generic linux solution. Are there config files?
[01:40] <sdcnlab> does pakages.ubuntu include universe?
[01:41] <werever> only thing I am sure is some packages critical for network connections were uninstalled by a mistake
[01:41] <DasEi> sdcnlab: this is just a lib, so I gues you try to install something else in the background, else simply disable that repo and do a working upgrade with solved dependencies
[01:41] <DasEi> (the ppa)
[01:41] <nn> im getting a 'cant move directory over directory' when trying to install a theme
[01:41] <sdcnlab> DasEi, can i add how what the address that i add to the source list?
[01:42] <alkafoo> mephist0: it was something like that, I think they must have disabled it in recent X versions, though
[01:42] <DasEi> sdcnlab: you mean how to disable ppa ?
[01:42] <alkafoo> probably have to pass a conf param to get it back
[01:42] <sdcnlab> im just confuse what to do
[01:42] <sdcnlab> to get these packages installed
[01:42] <sdcnlab> that sall
[01:43] <mephist0> alkafoo: param to what? the kernel?
[01:43] <werever> anybody knows if is there any list for all networking packages installed ono ubuntu by default?
[01:46] <DasEi> werever: dpkg -L | grep network
[01:47] <DasEi> ah default, well I could send you that output, but there are additional things I installed
[01:48] <DasEi> sdcnlab: easiest would be to remove the ppa and upgrade, so your apt is fine again
[01:48] <werever> dasei, I tried to install network-manager without sucess, and your command returns "--listfiles need at least one packagename as argument"
[01:48] <sdcnlab> DasEi, im going to remove everything i did and start over
[01:48] <sdcnlab> ppa is gone and manually installed deb file is gone
[01:49] <sdcnlab> i purged em
[01:49] <sdcnlab> now how can i install those packages
[01:49] <DasEi> :)
[01:49] <sdcnlab> cuz their not in any usual respository
[01:49] <DasEi> sdcnlab: that's a lib that will be pulled automatically on the corresponding deb
[01:49] <alkafoo> they're
[01:50] <sdcnlab> also i know its bad but i had libcv-dev installed
[01:50] <sdcnlab> and then i force-overwrite libopencv
[01:50] <sdcnlab> just to get it to install
[01:51] <DasEi> sdcnlab: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   shows no errors no more ?
[01:51] <sdcnlab> is that going to cause me problems
[01:51] <sdcnlab> DasEi, no issues ya
[01:51] <DasEi> fine so,and what's the actual deb you where looking for ?
[01:51] <sdcnlab> i want to get stage and subsequent packages installed
[01:51] <sdcnlab> and then gazebo and player
[01:52] <MonkeyDust> gazebo? used to say, i like chopin
[01:52] <sdcnlab> 3d robot simulator
[01:53] <graft> this channel is awesome!
[01:53] <werever> anybody know how to fix network connections on ubuntu?, I uninstalled a big quantity of packages from my main ubuntu  installation by mistake
[01:53] <DasEi> sdcnlab: never heard of it, might be need to compile it if there is no deb
[01:53] <shawn_> anyone know how to fix the bug in ubuntu 10.04??
[01:53] <graft> 3d robot simulators? haha
[01:53] <shawn_> fire fox.bin is eatin my cpu :P
[01:53] <sdcnlab> DasEi, im almost ready to
[01:54] <sdcnlab> but if the debian is having linking issues
[01:54] <sdcnlab> im expecting the compiler to do as well
[01:54] <graft> shawn_: upgrade firefox
[01:54] <shawn_> it is
[01:54] <shawn_> lol
[01:54] <graft> shawn_: which version?
[01:54] <shawn_> 11
[01:54] <graft> shawn_: firefox 11?
[01:54] <werever> ayudita ayudita por fa por fa
[01:54] <sdcnlab> okie i think i got it working the ppa i just found
[01:55] <graft> i know firefox has been skipping version numbers like crazy, but that is just ridiculous
[01:55] <sdcnlab> YES
[01:55] <sdcnlab> FINALLY
[01:55] <Guest12313> My laptop speackers work but no sound thru headphones.
[01:55] <werever> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp plz plz
[01:55] <werever> jejejej
[01:55] <DasEi> sdcnlab: I'd like to help more, but that'll be a walk in the dark, so better set up a vm for try n error, if you can't find anyone more experienced, good way to bork sys as we saw
[01:55] <sdcnlab> DasEi, got it working
[01:55] <sdcnlab> no worries
[01:56] <sdcnlab> hmm mistake i made before i took subset of the ppa
[01:56] <DasEi> ah, ic, nice
[01:56] <sdcnlab> now i have entire thing so theres no issues as all the depdenancies are taken care of
[01:56] <sdcnlab> thanks again
[01:56] <sdcnlab> ive been working on this computer since 2
[01:56] <sdcnlab> im not even gonna get paid overtime
[01:57] <DasEi> I'll send them a bill, lol, have fun
[01:57] <DasEi> werever: did you add the two lines to interfaces as said ?
[01:58] <werever> dasei I dont know how to add it
[01:58] <DasEi> werever: then simply scroll back ^^
[01:58] <sdcnlab> SWET
[01:58] <sdcnlab> im done im going home
[01:58] <sdcnlab> c ya
[01:59] <nn> fdssa
[01:59] <nn> dsjal
[01:59] <werever> dasei Ok no problem, but I read you carefully and I didnt understand how to do that
[02:00] <werever> werever:  you put a valid section for eth0 and wlan0 in interfaces ?
[02:00] <werever> werever: allow-hotplug eth0
[02:00] <werever> werever: afterwards restart network
[02:00] <DasEi> werever: gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces ... add the two lines 'n save it, restart network
[02:00] <shawn_> whats the latest of fire fox
[02:00] <shawn_> ??
[02:00] <shawn_> 7.0.1?
[02:01] <werever> ok, got it
[02:01] <shawn_> im on ubuntu 10.04 havin a firefox.bin issue
[02:01] <shawn_> eatting my cpu
[02:01] <DasEi> shawn_: 8.0 I saw on their HP
[02:01] <shawn_> is there a wget??
[02:02] <werever> dasei nothing happens with  gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:02] <DasEi> shawn_: add a repoline, and then just update system
[02:02] <luwei> 大家好阿
[02:02] <shrimants> whats up fellas
[02:02] <shawn_> could i dl it manually?
[02:02] <DasEi> werever:no file opens ??
[02:02] <shawn_> an then just do tar jxpvf?
[02:02] <werever> dasei nope
[02:03] <shawn_> an then ./firefox/firefox
[02:03] <werever> dasei sorry i tried to open that but I forgot tell you file dont oopen
[02:03] <shrimants> are any of you familiar with archlinux? and if so, is there a way to install ubuntu with that sort of a minimal install? I want just a base linux system that I can configure ofrom the ground up, i dont want any server dependencies or any GUI or other fancy business like that
[02:03] <DasEi> shawn_: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-7.0.1&os=linux&lang=en-US
[02:04] <shawn_> i have 7.01
[02:04] <shrimants> and I especially dont want gnome AND unity installed, let alone just one of the two nor do I want any of those random dependencies
[02:04] <jrib> !minimal | shrimants
[02:04] <shawn_> i googled the issue
[02:04] <shawn_> i guess everyone that has 10.04 is havin it
[02:04] <werever> dasei I got it
[02:04] <shawn_> was 10.10 good at all?
[02:04] <werever> dasei I used sudo instead gksu and now gedit opens file
[02:04] <DasEi> shawn_: I prefer the daily builds
[02:05] <Dell_e6410> quem pode me ajudar a fazer com que meu windows 7 volte e funcionar ?
[02:05] <Dell_e6410> :)
[02:05] <jrib> !br | Dell_e6410
[02:05] <DasEi> werever: my fault, gksudo it is, I'm using other distros, too , sorry
[02:06] <DasEi> werever: for now sudo is fine, too
[02:06] <DasEi> !gksu
[02:06] <werever> dasei dont worry, allow-hotplug eth0 is only one line
[02:06] <Dell_e6410> thanks
[02:06] <shawn_> lol the recent fire fox is 10
[02:06] <werever> dasei ?
[02:06] <shawn_> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/
[02:06] <shawn_> i just dled firefox 10
[02:06] <DasEi>                iface eth0 inet dhcp ,werever, too ?
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> ok one last thing
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> DasEi, if your still around
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> i wanted to change the boot screen start up
[02:07] <Guest12313> I lost sound to my headphones but internal speakers work fine.
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> its says kubuntu
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> but i want to change it back to the original ubuntu
[02:07] <sdcnlab_> my coworkers are going to mind
[02:07] <Pat201> i need help running conky, when i execute it is shown incomplete and enlarged on the lefthand side of the screen
[02:08] <DasEi> werever: this is how it should look for now : http://pastebin.com/M1Fye7Uk
[02:08] <DasEi> sdcnlab_: yes ?
[02:09] <sdcnlab_> DasEi, i was wondering how to change the bootscreen back to the original ubuntu from kubuntu
[02:09] <shrimants> does ubuntu minimal support intel 4965 agn wireless card and WPA2?
[02:09] <DasEi> Pat201: conky can be configured in almost any way, take a look for howtos or the forum
[02:09] <werever> dasei done thanks, restarting network now
[02:10] <zykotick9> shrimants, minimal won't support WPA during install
[02:11] <DasEi> werever: does ifconfig now show a valid ip for eth0 ?
[02:11] <kennett> need help getting headphone jack working.
[02:11] <DasEi> sdcnlab_: bootscreen ? gdm ? or the surface ?
[02:12] <sdcnlab_> ive enabled gdm
[02:12] <sdcnlab_> but before that
[02:12] <sdcnlab_> the first thing that comes up
[02:12] <werever> dasei negative
[02:12] <sdcnlab_> says kubuntu but i want to change it back to ubuntu
[02:12] <dr_willis> thats the plymouth theme thing sdcnlab_
[02:13] <werever> dasei, i tried a wired connection, I think I missed many critical packages
[02:13] <DasEi> sdcnlab_: apt-get install ubuntu-dektop , choose gdm when asked, or remove kubuntu-dektop
[02:13] <dr_willis> theres some command to reset it to ubuntu. but i never worry about it
[02:13] <DasEi> werever: are you using dhcp in your subnet ?
[02:13] <werever> dasei yes
[02:13] <dr_willis> plymouth is befor gdm loads
[02:14] <shawn_> what version.. in ubuntu 10.04... doesnt eat my cpu up?
[02:14] <DasEi> werever: does ifconfig least show a card eth0 ?
[02:14] <werever> dasei yes, eth0 and eth1 and lo
[02:15] <werever> dasei I have no network menu in gnome panel
[02:15] <DasEi> werever: sudo dhclient ?
[02:15] <Adriannom> hi.  just installed natty.  apt-get-install nfs-common returns "Errors were encountered while processing:nfs-common".
[02:15] <shawn_> which is better 10.04 or 10.10?
[02:15] <DasEi> werever: lo is localhost, and you need two similar lines for eth1 then, too
[02:16] <zykotick9> werever, see if ubuntu has a package named network-manager-gnome, and see if it's installed.
[02:16] <werever> dasei sudho dhclient eth0 doesnt working, terminal is freezed after this command
[02:16] <DasEi> shawn_: your choice, depends on your liking /unity
[02:16] <shawn_> i know but like
[02:16] <Edisto> how do i make a link to the root drive to place on my desktop?
[02:16] <werever> dasei, i checking now
[02:16] <shawn_> firefox is eatin my cpu
[02:16] <shawn_> i installed new firefox and all that
[02:17] <dr_willis> Edisto:  ln -s foo bar  .is one way. or just drag drop
[02:17] <Adriannom> this is also in dmesg: http://nopaste.info/27495f7f55.html any ideas how i can get nfs-common to install?
[02:18] <Adriannom> i totally need it ;|
[02:18] <shawn_> this is my cpu load
[02:18] <shawn_> top - 22:18:06 up  1:17,  3 users,  load average: 1.06, 1.15, 1.07
[02:18] <zuber> can someone help me?
[02:19] <DasEi> !ask | zuber
[02:20] <Edisto> Thanks dr
[02:20] <tonysan_> I have created my PPTP VPN with this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-pptp-vpn-server-with-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html , But I have a problem, I can only access LAN inside VPN, what should I do if I need to access the internet?
[02:20] <pwlandoll> I'm having a problem booting up normally. I'm in failsafe now. help?
[02:20] <zuber> so i have ubuntu 11.04 in my laptop and i have connected monitor by HDMI and i cant pick 1920x1200, and my currently max resolution is 1920x1080
[02:20] <DasEi> shawn_: idk what causes that, maybe bad flash, try another browser for quick n dirty then, aka chromium-browser
[02:21] <shawn_> can i go to the software center an get it
[02:21] <shawn_> ?
[02:21] <DasEi> !info chromium-browser
[02:21] <werever> dasei done!, I installed network-manager-gnome trough a flash usb memory
[02:21] <Adriannom> nfs is such a worryingly fundamental thing to break in a distro :s
[02:21] <RobbieCrash> Is anyone here running ZFS? If so, what speeds are you seeing for read/write and what type of drives are you running it under?
[02:23] <zuber> so i have ubuntu 11.04 in my laptop and i have connected monitor by HDMI and i cant pick 1920x1200, and my currently max resolution is 1920x1080. How can i set 1920x1200 resolution?
[02:24] <werever> dasei! yeeeih I have wireless conection back! many many thanks =)
[02:24] <Aleuck> could anyone help me find out why my Xorg still loads vesa's driver instead of intel's and reports errors when I unninstal vesa?
[02:24] <DasEi> !yay | werever
[02:25] <zuber> this place suck
[02:25] <pwlandoll> I'm having a problem booting up normally. I'm in failsafe now. help?
[02:26] <mlatelcom> Hello everyone. I have a PHP tutorial which is made on html and for some reason some things don't show up. it works on windows...so I'm wondering why it doesn't in linux
[02:27] <mlatelcom> basically there is an index and some other html files and some folders like images and so on. and let's say for example the reference to images in the pages code is ./images/whateverimage.jpg
[02:27] <hydrogen18> Hello, I have a problem: I have a logical volume which has "#open" of 1 when I run lvdisplay. But looking in /proc/mount it is not mounted and 'lsof' does not return anything having it open. 'fuser -ki' does not prompt me to kill any processes when run against the logical volume either
[02:27] <hydrogen18> running ubuntu 10.04 server amd64
[02:27] <mephist0> pwlandoll: what says
[02:27] <mlatelcom> but it doesn't show images on any page I open.I chmod the root tutorial folder to 777 but nothing happened
[02:28] <mlatelcom> does anybody know what's happening?
[02:28] <Adriannom> just installed ubuntu 11.04.  apt-get install nfs-common returned "Errors were encountered while processing:nfs-common".  dmesg shows:  http://nopaste.info/27495f7f55.html - any ideas how i can solve the problem?
[02:28] <pwlandoll> mephist0: when I try booting it displays a bunch of text and stops at Checking battery state .... [OK]
[02:29] <mephist0> pwlandoll: thats it?
[02:30] <Antrax2000> mlatelcom: are u running the html manual in your local server?
[02:30] <Pilif12p> hi, when i try to log in i get "Cannot update ICEauthority file", and it makes me log out
[02:30] <rodayo> what's a good command line program like a calculator but it outputs fractions numbers as ratios?
[02:30] <Pilif12p> i'm in the guest account now and it works fine
[02:30] <Pilif12p> tried to chown to tanner:tanner, that didn't work
[02:31] <mlatelcom> antrax2000: no, just in a local folder. actually if I do it in a server it should work I guess
[02:31] <pwlandoll> mephist0: the rest of the text is up there but it stops loading. I can still hit ctrl alt del to restart.
[02:31] <kennett> How do I get my internal speakers to mute when I have headphones plugged in?
[02:32] <Antrax2000> mlatelcom: you can try, if it doesnt work, try enabling the html error reporting in your php.ini
[02:33] <StormyJet> hello? i need help with installing java
[02:33] <mlatelcom> I'll try that and let's see what's happening
[02:33] <Aleuck> StormyJet: what is your problem?
[02:34] <mephist0> pwlandoll: https://launchpad.net/bugs/367078 there are lots of results. maybe that helps you
[02:34] <Adriannom> anyone?
[02:35] <StormyJet> i want to install it, so i dl'ed it. Did not work. Someone suggested APT, and i have honestly no idea what that is (new to ubuntu)
[02:35] <Antrax2000> mlatelcom: if configuring ur php.ini doesnt help u figure out what the problem is, then i suggest u use the chm format instead
[02:36] <StormyJet> can you help me?
[02:36] <shawn_> anyone know how to fix the firefox cpu bug in ubuntu 10.04?
[02:37] <shawn_> top - 22:37:13 up  1:36,  3 users,  load average: 1.47, 1.59, 1.38
[02:37] <nathanel> shawn: why FF.. go chrome baby :)
[02:37] <StormyJet> anyone?
[02:37] <shawn_> thats  my cpu
[02:37] <shawn_> see how high it is
[02:37] <shawn_> ive tryed chrome
[02:37] <shawn_> does the same thing
[02:38] <shawn_>  3249 shawn     20   0 1160m 215m  44m S   29  3.6  17:18.42 firefox-bin
[02:38] <shawn_> kills my cpu
[02:38] <nathanel> shawn: i forgot they got the same codebase... tried disabling plugins and exts?
[02:38] <shawn_> its flash
[02:38] <shawn_> i think
[02:38] <shawn_> its fhuked
[02:38] <nathanel> shawn: was about to say the same
[02:38] <shawn_> lol
[02:38] <nathanel> amd 64 or xx86?
[02:38] <shawn_> amd 64
[02:39] <nathanel> ya
[02:39] <nathanel> used to get that too
[02:39] <pwlandoll> mephist0: Thanks, trying some of the suggestions
[02:39] <shawn_> on ubuntu 10.04?
[02:39] <nathanel> where did you source it from?
[02:39] <Pilif12p> ok i figured it out. my home directory was for some reason owned by root
[02:39] <shawn_> ubuntu.com
[02:39] <nathanel> shawn: no go
[02:39] <nathanel> shawn: delete the .so
[02:39] <mlatelcom> antrax2000: I tried but it didn't work...what do you mean with chm?isn't it help format?
[02:39] <shawn_> get a different iso?
[02:40] <shawn_> and reinstall?
[02:40] <nathanel> i can mail you a wget / setup that fetches the real deal from adobe
[02:40] <nathanel> shawn: no... the .so ( the plugin itself)
[02:40] <shawn_> oh
[02:40] <shawn_> i got that from there website
[02:40] <shawn_> firefox.com
[02:40] <shawn_> idk why its eatting my cpu
[02:41] <shawn_> it doesnt do it in 11.04 but i like 10.04 alot better
[02:41] <shawn_> less buggy
[02:41] <StormyJet> I, how do i use APT to install JRE6?
[02:41] <xangua> !java | StormyJet
[02:41] <shawn_> stormy
[02:41] <shawn_> ur on 10.04?
[02:41] <symptom> nathanel,  what version should the libflash.so be? and where do you get it from?
[02:42] <shawn_> sym.. do u get the same prob in 10.04
[02:42] <shawn_> ?
[02:42] <symptom> shawn_, not on ubuntu
[02:42] <shawn_> oh
[02:42] <symptom> shawn_, on solaris
[02:42] <shawn_> Oh
[02:42] <shawn_> do u have the prob where its eatting ur cpu?
[02:42] <symptom> although Im sure the issue is similar
[02:42] <symptom> shawn_, yes
[02:42] <shawn_> yeh
[02:42] <symptom> shawn_, when it gets real bad it just locks up
[02:42] <shawn_> well
[02:43] <shawn_> it doesnt reach 70 for me
[02:43] <shawn_> goes to 50
[02:43] <shawn_> but im on a quad core
[02:43] <FloodBot1> shawn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <shawn_> so i mean whats the issue
[02:43] <symptom> shawn_, when im playing videos on youtube or something, it kills me
[02:43] <shawn_> yeh same
[02:43] <shawn_> top - 22:43:36 up  1:42,  3 users,  load average: 1.62, 1.49, 1.38
[02:43] <shawn_> look at that
[02:43] <symptom> shawn_, I diverged from ubuntu ff a while ago
[02:43] <StormyJet> okay, i did what it said, now which alt java should i use?
[02:44] <shawn_> well
[02:44] <symptom> I just use what ff gives me straight from mozilla.  on ubuntu atleast.  NOt really an option on solaris
[02:44] <StormyJet> it says this http://pastebin.com/SzdGWTaa
[02:44] <nathanel> i get it straight from the adobe labs server... i analyzed the download source and copied it... here is a little fetch script i made for it..  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728225/get-flash
[02:44] <shawn_> well it only happens in 10.04 not 11.04
[02:44] <nathanel> shawn: i get it straight from the adobe labs server... i analyzed the download source and copied it... here is a little fetch script i made for it..  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728225/get-flash
[02:45] <nathanel> symptom: i get it straight from the adobe labs server... i analyzed the download source and copied it... here is a little fetch script i made for it..  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728225/get-flash
[02:45] <shawn_> so how do u remove my current flash
[02:45] <nathanel> open terminal
[02:45] <StormyJet> which one should i use?
[02:45] <nathanel> sudo nautilus /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[02:46] <nathanel> delete the one thats called flashplugin.so
[02:47] <shawn_> how about libflashplayer.so
[02:47] <shawn_> ?
[02:47] <nathanel> whatever.. you get the idea
[02:47] <shawn_> then theres npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[02:47] <shawn_> lol
[02:47] <nathanel> point is theres only one and its always called the same
[02:47] <symptom> nathanel, thats money
[02:47] <jmcfarlane> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/862895
[02:48] <nathanel> symptom: meaning??
[02:48] <symptom> nathanel, good.
[02:48] <nathanel> :)
[02:48] <nathanel> shawn : close terminal
[02:48] <nathanel> shawn: kill the firefox process
[02:48] <shawn_> nath
[02:49] <shawn_> it says
[02:49] <shawn_> no such file or direc
[02:49] <shawn_> but im in downloads
[02:49] <FloodBot1> shawn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <nathanel> ?
[02:49] <shawn_> i followed the wget
[02:49] <shawn_> and then tar xvf
[02:49] <nathanel> shawn: you have to run the script.. it does it for you
[02:50] <shawn_> so i have to copy all this to a text editor?
[02:50] <shawn_> an then name it what
[02:50] <symptom> nathanel, how do you know if there are updates?  I cant find any root page with all flash downloads.....
[02:51] <nathanel> shawn: the point is that wget fetches it for you without user authentification, it'S a query signal.... obviously if you try to input the address manually itll fail
[02:51] <Deihmos> is there no hardware acceleration in ubuntu? Ui is so freaking laggy
[02:51] <kasper__> hi
[02:52] <shawn_> i know nath but how do i make the script work?.. i went to the webpage that u gave me
[02:52] <nathanel> symptom: the point is no updates: 10.2 was the most stable so far...
[02:52] <tensorpudding> Deihmos, if your hardware supports it
[02:52] <nathanel> shawn
[02:52] <Deihmos> i have an nvidia 9800 GTX
[02:52] <jmcfarlane> after the last update (oneiric) network manager (or nm-applet) is not happy :/
[02:52] <Deihmos> how would i know if it supports it or not
[02:53] <nathanel> shawn: go to the folder where you put the get-flash, right click it>permissions> allow to execute as program
[02:53] <symptom> nathanel, what no chmodding?
[02:53] <symptom> kids these days.....
[02:53] <nathanel> ITS THE SAME!
[02:53] <symptom> hehe
[02:53] <nathanel> you seem to be lost on commands
[02:54] <nathanel> chmod +x get-flash && sudo ./get-flash
[02:54] <shawn_> so i execute the script
[02:54] <symptom> im jk nathanel.
[02:54] <nathanel> happy?
[02:54] <nathanel> lol
[02:54] <shawn_> an then the term opens for like 2 secs then closes
[02:54] <nathanel> ya
[02:54] <symptom> chmod 0755 get-flash; sudo ./get-flash
[02:54] <symptom> ;)
[02:54] <nathanel> or open a term and paste the command to keep output
[02:55] <shawn_> nath so im done then?
[02:55] <nathanel> check the ff plugin with about:plugins in address bar to verify whhich version it's at now and test
[02:55] <jmcfarlane> the desktop is all wierd looking too, shifted down and to the right
[02:56] <shawn_>     File: libflashplayer.so
[02:56] <shawn_>     Version:
[02:56] <shawn_>     Shockwave Flash 11.0 r1
[02:57] <nathanel> nope!
[02:57] <nathanel> it'S supposed to be 10_2 r3
[02:57] <shawn_> did what u said.. went to ur page saved the file.. executed the file
[02:58] <nathanel> type ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins | grep libflash
[02:58] <Stormy> hello
[02:58] <Guest79204> hello
[02:58] <shawn_> npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[02:59] <shawn_> that is what i delete?
[02:59] <nathanel> its bc of hte wrapper.. you need to purge with either synaptic or apt-get first
[02:59] <nathanel> the*
[02:59] <nathanel> the wrapper overrides manual installs
[03:00] <nathanel> bc ubuntu's package uses nspluginwrapper to load the i386 version
[03:00] <shawn_> so go to synaptic and do what?
[03:00] <shawn_> uninstall?
[03:00] <StormyJet> okat
[03:00] <StormyJet> *okay
[03:00] <StormyJet> i need help with installing 32bit java
[03:00] <nathanel> look for anything flas related (usually flashplugin-'something") and right click on it and do COMPLETE REMOVAL
[03:01] <shawn_> cant dlete npwrapper
[03:01] <StormyJet> removing flash? its usally libflashplayer.so for firefox
[03:01] <shawn_> its locked by root
[03:01] <aapje_x> hi
[03:01] <nathanel> yes we know
[03:01] <nathanel> he used the package install
[03:02] <shawn_> now i see nspluginwrapper in synapti
[03:02] <shawn_> want me to uninstall
[03:02] <shawn_> ?
[03:02] <nathanel> YES.. complete removal
[03:02] <nathanel> not just remove
[03:02] <nathanel> (equivalent of apt-get purge flashplugin*)
[03:03] <shawn_> ok i did it.. so why is the file still there
[03:03] <shawn_> lol
[03:03] <StormyJet> okay, anyone willing to help me?
[03:03] <shawn_> kk
[03:03] <shawn_> gone
[03:03] <nathanel> run terminal and paste the apt-get purge to make sure
[03:04] <nathanel> shawn: run terminal and paste the apt-get purge to make sure
[03:04] <DasEi> StormyJet: in what ?
[03:04] <StormyJet> anyone want to help me? pl0xors?
[03:05] <shawn_> kk
[03:05] <shawn_> done
[03:05] <netlab> hello
[03:05] <nathanel> shawn: all gone?
[03:05] <Solaris444> Hi all.  Does this channel cover support for Ubuntu server?
[03:05] <DasEi> Solaris444: yes
[03:05] <shawn_> yes
[03:05] <Solaris444> Thanks DasEi.
[03:05] <netlab> ok
[03:05] <nathanel> rerun the grep command i gave you
[03:05] <DasEi> Solaris444: there is #ubuntu-server though, also
[03:05] <StormyJet> anyone, plz help me to get 32bit java
[03:06] <DasEi> !java | StormyJet
[03:06] <shawn_> kk
[03:06] <Solaris444> In that case, does anybody know if 10.04 LTS server has native support for the LSI MegaRAID 9260-4i RAID controller?
[03:06] <StormyJet> yes, i did that, but thats 64bit dude....
[03:06] <KadirB> u can install java with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-xtras"
[03:06] <nathanel> shawn: output?
[03:06] <shawn_> rofl dude
[03:06] <KadirB> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:06] <shawn_>     ile: libtotem-cone-plugin.so
[03:06] <shawn_>     Version:
[03:06] <shawn_>     The Totem 2.30.2 plugin handles video and audio streams.
[03:06] <DasEi> StormyJet: saw kadir ?
[03:06] <shawn_> rofl
[03:07] <FloodBot1> shawn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <nathanel> shawn: good.. really all gone now
[03:07] <nathanel> now
[03:07] <DasEi> !hcl | Solaris444
[03:07] <nathanel> rerun the get-flash in the term
[03:07] <StormyJet> what dasei?
[03:07] <nathanel> make sure ff is closed and killed
[03:07] <Solaris444> ah thankyou.
[03:08] <StormyJet> whenever i try to run a external java prgram ex: minecraft, it crashes
[03:08] <DasEi> (05:23:22) KadirB: ubuntu-restricted-extras , StormyJet
[03:08] <shawn_> ok i did that
[03:08] <Solaris444> er, DasEi, it says its discontinued?
[03:08] <netlab> hello
[03:08] <nathanel> rerun grep and give me output
[03:08] <shawn_> samething as before
[03:08] <shawn_> see
[03:08] <shawn_> its not doing it
[03:09] <nathanel> so open the script in gedit
[03:09] <nathanel> open a new terminal
[03:09] <StormyJet> http://pastebin.com/GcQbfPA4  thats what it does, explain please
[03:09] <DasEi> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | but for 32 the link also works for java just , StormyJet
[03:09] <nathanel> shawn: so open the script in gedit
[03:10] <nathanel> shawn: open a new terminal
[03:10] <shawn_> kk
[03:10] <shawn_> did it
[03:10] <nathanel> shawn: type 'sudo -s'
[03:10] <nathanel> input p/w
[03:10] <nathanel> you should be root now
[03:10] <shawn_> kk
[03:11] <IdleOne> !gksudo
[03:11] <nathanel> copy paste the 'cd.' line
[03:12] <StormyJet> okay, sorry for being so noobish (very new) but ubottu, what?
[03:13] <nathanel> shawn: ??
[03:13] <DasEi> StormyJet: nvm, ubottu is the channel ro-bot, triggered by "!" like :
[03:13] <DasEi> !brain
[03:14] <StormyJet> so if i did !apt what would that do
[03:14] <StormyJet> !apt
[03:14] <DasEi> StormyJet: you can query it to play around
[03:14] <StormyJet> !java
[03:15] <StormyJet> but seriously, that installs 64bit
[03:15] <DasEi> StormyJet: so partner repo enabled ?
[03:15] <StormyJet> the what (im very new)
[03:16] <DasEi> StormyJet: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <DasEi> .. in a terminal
[03:16] <StormyJet> and copy all that to pastebin or soemthing?
[03:16] <juancarlospaco> hello
[03:17] <DasEi> StormyJet: file open ?
[03:17] <StormyJet> "sources.list (/etc/apt) - gedit"
[03:17] <StormyJet> now what
[03:18] <DasEi> StormyJet: find the two lines of partner repo and remove the # in front of that lines, save file
[03:19] <StormyJet> this? http://pastebin.com/U7Td8YG8
[03:19] <DasEi> almost, line 6, too
[03:20] <DasEi> StormyJet: save the file, close gedit
[03:20] <StormyJet> done.
[03:20] <netlab> hello
[03:20] <shawn_> kk who was i talkin about with the flash plugin
[03:20] <shawn_> ??
[03:20] <shawn_> internet died
[03:20] <shawn_> ;s
[03:20] <StormyJet> now what DasEI?
[03:20] <DasEi> StormyJet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras   (that pulls a bunch of also needed codecs in one then)
[03:21] <StormyJet> okay, thats done, so now what
[03:22] <shawn_> kk i have the libflasherplayer.so but cant move it it to the direct because say permission denied..
[03:22] <kasper__> hey  i am here from puerto rico
[03:22] <StormyJet> sudo
[03:22] <kasper__> alguien habla espanol??
[03:22] <DasEi> !es
[03:22] <StormyJet> hola, kasper__ , no comprende espanol
[03:23] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm looking for a solution to read an ebook (pdf) in the background while I'm working. aby ideas, please?
[03:23] <DasEi> StormyJet: should have worving stuff now
[03:23] <DasEi> working*
[03:23] <StormyJet> still crashes
[03:24] <grkblood> I installed 10.10 64-bit and I got prompted to install additional drivers for my video card. I installed the additional drivers and now my laptop locks up at "checking battery state..." when booting up
[03:24] <grkblood> how do i fix this?
[03:24] <StormyJet> http://pastebin.com/EruRiuZH says this
[03:26] <cmicallef> woot ubuntu! :)
[03:26] <DasEi> StormyJet: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[03:27] <DasEi> StormyJet: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:27] <grkblood> how do i fix this?
[03:27] <grkblood> I installed 10.10 64-bit and I got prompted to install additional drivers for my video card. I installed the additional drivers and now my laptop locks up at "checking battery state..." when booting up
[03:27] <StormyJet> Reinstallation of sun-java6-jre is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. Reinstallation of sun-java6-plugin is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[03:28] <cmicallef> @StormyJet can't you just use the Maverick repo?
[03:28] <StormyJet> hrm?
[03:29] <cmicallef> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner
[03:29] <cmicallef> i use that with 11.04
[03:29] <cmicallef> and sun java works for me
[03:29] <StormyJet> in terminal correct?
[03:29] <DasEi> cmicallef: bad idea (dep's)
[03:30] <keyzs> how can i code in linux like i do in dreamweaver with a few clicks to build site?
[03:30] <cmicallef> DasEi: yeah i know, but it works! :D
[03:30] <DasEi> StormyJet: you saved sources after uncommenting partner repo ?
[03:30] <cmicallef> hahah
[03:30] <StormyJet> yes i did
[03:31] <StormyJet> hold on, i think i made a mistake
[03:31] <urlin2u> kieppie, you might check out this link. http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/48344.aspx
[03:33] <StormyJet> it still crashes
[03:33] <eaglestar> hi i wanted to know if i should format my drive with seperate partitions for / /home and /swap or if the default is better and safer for upgrading thank you
[03:33] <DasEi> StormyJet: I'm still on lucid and also found a ppa by google, but wonder that the partner repos aren't up yet
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> How do you install Epredict from source>
[03:34] <paulus68> eaglestar:  I'd go for seperate partitions
[03:35] <gr33n7007h> it wont update intltool to make
[03:35] <DasEi> StormyJet: your decision if you want to trust  a ppa, I'd rather do that before risking a broken apt on other partner's debs
[03:35] <DasEi> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/install-java-in-ubuntu-1104-natty.html
[03:35] <StormyJet> alright
[03:36] <DasEi> ^solution 2 way to then, StormyJet
[03:36] <DasEi> go*
[03:36] <eaglestar> paulus68: can i ask i wanted to make sure i have 80gb hdd it says / 9999 mb /home 66715 m and swap 3308 mb is that good?
[03:38] <kieppie> anyone know of a ebook reader with TTS?
[03:38] <RobbieCrash> eaglestar you may want to give / a bit more space
[03:38] <eaglestar> like how much?
[03:39] <RobbieCrash> 15GB should be plenty
[03:39] <RobbieCrash> 10 may get cramped depending on what all you install
[03:39] <eaglestar> RobbieCrash: ok thanks i will check it out
[03:39] <StormyJet> its installing now
[03:40] <RobbieCrash> especially if you're going to use anything through WINE, since Windows programs are substantially larger than Linux ones, generally speaking.
[03:40] <eaglestar> i have not used it in so long because i needed some windows programs for work and i have gotten rusty
[03:40] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to make wireless card boost power so it can receive more networks?  t420 running intel 6300 + wimax
[03:41] <paulus68> eaglestar: I'd go with 30/30/20
[03:42] <eaglestar> 30 / 30 /home and 3 /swap? i don't have enough space for my files
[03:42] <jinu> what are the arguments of execv() system call?
[03:42] <Flannel> eaglestar: You can definately bring / down to 10 (Unless you're planning on storing stuff in /var or somewhere else, instead of home)
[03:42] <bastidrazor> eaglestar: / should around 15. clean the apt-get cache and you'll stay well under 6GB
[03:42] <gr33n7007h> arooni-mobile: iwconfig <interface> txpower <N>mW
[03:43] <bastidrazor> eaglestar: i tend to agree with Flannel. i've had this laptop for 3 years and have 6.54GB used on /
[03:43] <eaglestar> ok thanks flannel and bastidrazor i will check i don't really think it will be used for more than email word processing and music
[03:43] <eaglestar> ok i will keep at 10gb then
[03:44] <Flannel> eaglestar: Then yeah, you should be fine with 10gb /
[03:44] <eaglestar> do you guys always use seperate mount points? it seems to me that partitioning should always be recommended correct?
[03:45] <paulus68> eaglestar: I always use several mountpoints just to be certain that I don't loose any work dispite the fact that I do a daily backup
[03:46] <grkblood> I installed 10.10 64-bit and I got prompted to install additional drivers for my video card. I installed the additional drivers and now my laptop locks up at "checking battery state..." when booting up
[03:46] <eaglestar> i was in this room before and they said i should do a fresh install over upgrade every time so i figured keeping a seperate partition for upgrading would be a good idea in the future
[03:48] <setient> how is everyone
[03:49] <urlin2u> grkblood, do you know how to edit the kernel with nomodeset to get in with a low graphics boot?
[03:49] <grkblood> urlin2u, no
[03:49] <diytto> Is there a way I can share the wireless internet on my laptop with another computer through ethernet
[03:49] <grkblood> urlin2u, how would i just revert back to the open source drivers
[03:50] <paulus68> diytto: with what purpose?
[03:50] <diytto> paulus68: So the other computer can access the internet
[03:50] <urlin2u> grkblood, at the grub menu hit e for edit, then se the arrow keys to h=get to where it says quiet splash and add nomodeset, as far as fixing it others will know more, easier done from the desktop probably.
[03:51] <diytto> paulus68: Think of the laptop as a bridge
[03:51] <urlin2u> se=use  h+get is just get sorry grkblood
[03:51] <paulus68> diytto: I wouldn't operate like that since the speed of your internet is going to be adapted to the speed of your wireless connection
[03:52] <diytto> paulus68: Yes, well my internet connection is too slow for it to matter
[03:53] <urlin2u> grkblood, I think sisnce you just used the additional drivers to add you can just turn them off.
[03:53] <urlin2u> same place
[03:54] <paulus68> diytto: then why bring it even more down, since you have a wireless connection you have a wifi modem, if so you should have at least 4 ethernet ports available to plug in your 2nd computer
[03:54] <diytto> paulus68: It is in another room
[03:55] <paulus68> diytto:  no need to bridge, you also need to be aware that both computers need to be active in order to make that internet connection work
[03:55] <diytto> Oh
[03:55] <diytto> Well yes
[03:55] <diytto> Eh
[03:55] <diytto> I will figure something out
[03:55] <bsmith0931> how do i get rid of a window left over from a process i killed
[03:55] <diytto> Thanks paulus68
[03:56] <paulus68> diytto: if your laptop is going into hybernation you don't have internet on your computer
[03:56] <diytto> I never hibernate or sleep
[03:56] <diytto> The laptop screws up
[03:56] <diytto> Its always plugged into power too
[03:56] <DasEi> bsmith0931: either killall -9 or alt+F4 after clicking on it
[03:56] <paulus68> diytto: not good for a laptop
[03:56] <diytto> Its basically a lightweight desktop
[03:56] <zykotick9> bsmith0931, did you happen to use xkill to kill it?  just curious.  Try changing desktops, or logout/backin.
[03:56] <Dex7> hello!
[03:56] <diytto> It's the only solution
[03:57] <diytto> It has a 2 hour battery life
[03:57] <DasEi> bsmith0931:  killall -9 on the original process kills it's kids, too
[03:57] <paulus68> diytto: what is the current layout of your network
[03:57] <zykotick9> DasEi, -9 should be used as a last resort, and doesn't touch children ;)
[03:57] <diytto> Modem - Airport Extreme wireless router - Wireless B/G router
[03:57] <Dex7> i need help - change mya videocrd - after my video (mocies) crashes. i hear only sound and black screen in player.
[03:58] <bsmith0931> kill -9 pid worked thanks
[03:58] <Dex7> the codec are installed.
[03:58] <knightrage> diytto: is the wireless laptop running linux?
[03:58] <diytto> Yes, lubuntu
[03:58] <paulus68> diytto: then buy yourself an ethernet cable and connect this with 1 of your routers and plug it in straight away into your desktop
[03:58] <mordof> i've got a program that i regularly run - I'd like to launch it from the command line but it's not actually installed, it's precompiled
[03:59] <zykotick9> Dex7, try chaning to VO - Video Output in your media player (xv,x11,gl type thing)
[03:59] <diytto> paulus68: It will have to be a long ethernet cable :/
[03:59] <mordof> how would i go about making it so that program is available from the command line?
[03:59] <zykotick9> Dex7, typo above: s/to/the/
[03:59] <diytto> mordof: You could create a script to launch it
[04:00] <paulus68> diytto: why? are you not able to move the wifi routers?
[04:00] <mordof> diytto: that's fine, but where would i put it?
[04:01] <diytto> mordof: Anywhere, /usr/bin
[04:01] <diytto> paulus68: Yeah.
[04:01] <paulus68> diytto: then play with that try to enlarge the range between these 2 routers in order to get a internet cable that can be plugged into your computer
[04:02] <diytto> paulus68: Will do.
[04:02] <Dex7> zykotick9, thank you - it realy help. :)
[04:03] <paulus68> diytto: it's also better that 1 pc in the network is connected through cable to your routers/modem you'd get funny situations if you do a reset of your wifi and you loose internet because of that :p
[04:05] <diytto> paulus68: There are 2 iMacs plugged in to one of the routers
[04:06] <paulus68> diytto: ok
[04:07] <RobbieCrash> Anyone in here using ZFS?
[04:08] <Operaist2> how do i type in address in the ubuntu file windows
[04:09] <diytto> Wow
[04:09] <Operaist2> hello?
[04:11] <DasEi> Operaist2: world
[04:16] <rabbi1> how can i get itrans layout . my language is not showing up in the drop down under preferences ... :( in iBus
[04:20] <paulus68> the lag is terrible :(
[04:23] <k1llaByte> i was playing assault cube from ubuntu software center and the aiming sux is the updatedversion as bad?
[04:24] <paean_> is there a command to search a directory for text files containing specified text?  like grep but for multiple files?
[04:24] <paean_> like the "Search for files" dialog, but a cli version.
[04:24] <curiousx> paean_: with grep's -R flag
[04:25] <Chris3> I have downloaded and unpacked the Mozilla Thunderbird executable on my new Ubuntu installation.  How do I install the program.  Don't I just double click the Thunderbird-bin file?  Any pointer in the right direction is appreciated.
[04:25] <paean_> curiousx, I never knew that flag existed.  Thanks.
[04:25] <curiousx> your welcome dude =)
[04:26] <eaglestar> i have a question my computer froze during end of install also when i restart it only shows a blank screen what should I do? (i disabled napic nolapic acpi=noirq vga=771 during install to get it working, i think it was the acpi giving me problems before
[04:26] <urlin2u> Chris3, thnderbird is in the repositories, you might try that.
[04:26] <ex0> its acpi eaglestar
[04:27] <Chris3> urlin2u: OK, I will go search for those.  Thanks
[04:27] <eaglestar> ex0: what should i do?
[04:27] <urlin2u> Chris3, in the terminal sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[04:28] <lucas-arg> is it possible to put xchat window in fullscreen?
[04:28] <eaglestar> whenever i try to reload it it just hangs. i tried to run ubuntu but had to try lubuntu ex0
[04:28] <urlin2u> lucas-arg, doesn't the screen have buttons on tye top?
[04:29] <urlin2u> the
[04:29] <rabbi1> how can i get itrans layout . my language is not showing up in the drop down under preferences ... :(
[04:29] <lucas-arg> urlin2u, yeah but in fullscreen... like the windows using the entire screen....
[04:30] <concerned_> Err.. I have a few questions, please excuse the upcoming wall of text.
[04:30] <concerned_> Hi everyone. I have a couple questions. I have a problem, and I'm seeking to use ubuntu as part of a solution. But I'm also seeking non-computery solutions as well. I have a roommate whom is using a significant amount of down and upload bandwith that I'm concerned he may be torrenting or similar.
[04:30] <concerned_>  When I talk to him about it, he steps back for a few days, then resumes as usual. How viable is using ubuntu as a "router" distro(dedicated pc with 2 nic cards) and how can I cover my butt legally?
[04:30] <urlin2u> lucas-arg, in windows unless you hide the panel at the bottom it should be the same.
[04:30] <lucas-arg> tnx
[04:31] <concerned_> AFAIK the connection is in my GFs name, and in the US she'd be liable for his traffic and would have to seek damages in small claims court should we get sued because of him..I'd like to avoid that scenario alltogether : /
[04:34] <kazzy> concerned_, what are you using as a router currently?
[04:34] <concerned_> Actiontec Q1000
[04:35] <kazzy> concerned_, ah, it's a combination DSL modem and router
[04:35] <concerned_> kazzy I looked for custom firmware unfortunately it's one of the few pretty much incompatible with any pre-built stuff
[04:37] <knightrage> concerned_: might be worth a read. dunno if there's any usable information: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/09/10/1623255/ask-slashdot-p2p-liability-on-a-shared-connection
[04:38] <concerned_> knightrage: thanks so much for the link. I'll take a look.
[04:39] <eaglestar> how would i boot in grub with acpi=off?
[04:40] <concerned_> knightrage: from that it looks like I might be best giving him a refund for his share of the net bill this month and just cutting off the connection, asking him to get his own. How in the world do you present something like that politely Oo?
[04:42] <phlak_user> !hi
[04:42] <knightrage> concerned_: no clue, haha.
[04:42] <dr_willis> eaglestar:  edit the grub lines at boot time. or the config files. see the !nomodeset factoid for a url.with.examples of editing grub at boot
[04:43] <nico_> hi all
[04:43] <rabbi1> how can i get itrans layout . my language is not showing up in the drop down under preferences ... :(
[04:43] <concerned_> knightrage: Well I'll have to mull over that one, but that no longer remotely has anything to do with ubuntu. So thanks a lot all~! =D
[04:44] <nico_> Could someone assist with a driver installation DURING the Ubuntu install proccess ?
[04:45] <phlak_user> rabbi1: is that the Indian language print package?
[04:45] <rabbi1> phlak_user: yeah
[04:45] <phlak_user> rabbi1: oh ok
[04:45] <eaglestar> !nomodeset
[04:46] <phlak_user> rabbi1: what is your language?
[04:46] <jose_al> hi
[04:46] <rabbi1> phlak_user: in the dropdown it shows only chinese, nothing else, how can add indian language to the dropdown ?
[04:46] <rabbi1> phlak_user: trying to add, hindi and kannada
[04:47] <rabbi1> kn and hi
[04:47] <dan> Hey guys
[04:47] <phlak_user> rabbi1: on Ubuntu?
[04:47] <Guest33041> I have a question, and I apologize in advance that I am not very tech savvy... but I was playing that game Lincity and it messed up the resolution of my desktop wallpaper...not my computer screen just the wallpaper
[04:48] <rabbi1> phlak_user: yeah, 11.04
[04:48] <Guest33041> now every time I close out of a window the window shows up in the black area surrounding my smaller sized wallpaper
[04:49] <Guest33041> I tried switching the wallpaper to see if it needed to just refresh but it did nothing
[04:49] <eaglestar> thanks guys that helped
[04:50] <phlak_user> rabbi1: have you installed the .ifm files? eg for kannada its kantex.ifm
[04:50] <phlak_user> rabbi1: and dvnc.ifm for devanagari
[04:50] <eaglestar> how do you update your bios in ubuntu?
[04:51] <phlak_user> !bios
[04:52] <urlin2u> eaglestar, generally you don't but the manufacturer wo=ho would provide the update should have instructions.
[04:52] <urlin2u> who*
[04:52] <eaglestar> i think all i have to do is edit the grub loader for acpi=off or acpi_osi
[04:54] <eaglestar> !bios
[04:55] <netlab> hello
[04:55] <phlak_user> eaglestar: yes, /etc/default/grub is the place to do it and then update grub
[04:56] <buhman> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/484898/ why do I keep disconnecting, and what's reason 1?
[04:56] <urlin2u> eaglestar, run this gksudo gedit  /etc/default/grub and add the stuff to this line between the quotes, then run a sudo update-grub  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[04:58] <eaglestar> thanks so much urlin2u i was on the page that talks about it
[04:58] <urlin2u> eaglestar, no problems sometimes it helps to out line it. :D
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> buhman: can you pastebin the output of:
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> buhman: sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a     thanks
[05:10] <aki_ross> Hi
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hi aki_ross
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> buhman: I may have a fix :), I need the pastebin first though
[05:15] <buhman> ActionParsnip: sorry; one moment
[05:18] <buhman> ActionParsnip: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/484904/
[05:19] <RP64> hello fine gentlemen, my ubuntu installation is working fine except for the vital fault that it is crashing to a black screen upon login. it was a succesfull installation with a perfectly fine disk and ISO from the official source, so that isn't the problem
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> buhman: you missed:  lsb_release -a
[05:19] <RP64> upon research, I found out that ubuntu 11.04 has problems with Nvidia Geforce , which is the videocard my computer uses
[05:19] <buhman> ActionParsnip: right...
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> RP64: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[05:19] <RP64> therefore, I have no idea what to do as I can't even log into the ubuntu, do any of the fine gentlemen here have any solutions to this spectacle?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> buhman: what is the output of the command please
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> buhman: try:  sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[05:20] <RP64> ActionParsnip: Really, are you sure good sir? How would one go about to add a boot option do you say?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | RP64 just use nouvea.blacklist=1 instead ;)
[05:20] <buhman> ActionParsnip: hrm no visible changes
[05:20] <buhman> ActionParsnip: what was that supposed to do?
[05:21] <jrgp> Where does natty store the UUID for the swap partition needed for hibernation resume?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> buhman: you won't see anything if it works, now try your wireless connection
[05:21] <buhman> ActionParsnip: still working
[05:21] <RP64> ActionParsnip: Hmm I understand that by no stretch of an ear , I don't even understand what it means. my apologies my good man, however what do you mean by "just use nouvea.blacklist=1 instead... I am a noobular vessel
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> jrgp: sudo blkid     will show it, if that's what you mean
[05:21] <buhman> ActionParsnip: do I need to ifup/down or did the changes take effect immediately?
[05:22] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  For you see I am not even on Ubuntu at the moment but unfortunately the horrid windows vista, therefore I want to switch back to Ubuntu ASAP but its trapped in a vortex of black screen
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> RP64: the boot option stops the OS using the nouveau driver being used, the guide I gave shows how to add the bootoption: nomodeset   all you have to do us switch the option, the method is the same
[05:22] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  how does one go about to add the command you mentioned to the boot option?
[05:22] <reverseblade> nickserv identify l00Ma3x
[05:22] <jrgp> ActionParsnip: that isn't what I mean. I mean Ubuntu stores the location of the swap partition under /etc somewhere so it knows to look there upon resume.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> RP64: the boot options are set before the kernel is even loaded, so you simply need to reboot and follow the guide
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> reverseblade: may want to change your password
[05:23] <reverseblade> ActionParsnip, why so ?
[05:23] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  thank you my good sir, therefore you are stating that it is in the GRUB loading screen as a selection?
[05:23] <jrgp> ActionParsnip: the config file this article references does not exist in natty. http://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/howtofixhibernateafterresizingswappartitiononubuntu
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> reverseblade: if you do that in the lobby screen with motd, you won't broadcast to the channel ;)
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> (06:22:40) reverseblade: nickserv identify l00Ma3x
[05:24] <reverseblade> ActionParsnip, but that wasn't my password at all
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> reverseblade: it looks a lot like one, especially when you address the nickserv.....
[05:24] <reverseblade> no i just typed it to catch some fish
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> buhman: should be ok straight away
[05:25] <ksraj> hey guys
[05:25]  * m00se slaps reverseblade around a bit with a large trout!
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> reverseblade: no fish here ;)
[05:25] <reverseblade> heh
[05:25] <ksraj> sorry if this is the wrong room
[05:25] <ksraj> but where should i got for help with cryptography?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> buhman: has it helped?
[05:25] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  My good sir, I have read upon that thread page you have sent me, and I see that it seems to be an improper workaround to the problem! Alas, it seems as though it is only cheating its way around it, and therefore won't even use my graphics card properly? What say you to this?
[05:26] <reverseblade> Saveas still here eh
[05:26] <buhman> ActionParsnip: I won't know until it fails
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you are only using it to then get logged in and get updates and install the proprietary driver, this will then be used and nouveau will not be an issue anymore
[05:26] <buhman> ActionParsnip: takes quite a few moments for that to happen, as you can probably see from the paste
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> buhman: what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[05:27] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Oh I now see the solution you've presented, good of you to state these facts to me my good sir you are a blessed man of the computer gods
[05:27] <buhman> ActionParsnip: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/484908/
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> RP64: I'm no god, just been around a while ;)
[05:27] <paulus68> m00se: stop waisting that trout :)
[05:27] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  but those computer gods have blessed you is my point
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok, what is the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release    please
[05:27] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  therefore you are a blessed man spreading the gospel of those computer gods, who fly in the computer sky with their digital wings
[05:28] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  I'm not in Ubuntu at the moment, so I can't check that for you... I am dualbooting with Vista
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> m00se: can I PM you please
[05:28] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  So does that mean I am how they say, screwed
[05:28] <buhman> ActionParsnip: you like that lsb-release program I see :P
[05:28] <m00se> no
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> m00se: ok, np
[05:28] <buhman> ActionParsnip: was that supposed to go to me?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> buhman: it tells us a lot
[05:29] <RP64> action can I PM you? I'll stop speaking like this
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> buhman: yes, just weird how your lsb_release is like that
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> RP64: You have the only fix I know for black screen with nvidia chip
[05:29] <buhman> ActionParsnip: lsb-release exists but is empty
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> buhman: are you using ubuntu? or is it something else?
[05:30] <buhman> ActionParsnip: lsb-release says n/a
[05:30] <buhman> I agree
[05:30] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  I know but I want to write down the solution and all the other chatting makes it hard to read it
[05:30] <RP64> D:
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> RP64: nouveau.blacklist=1     is the boot option you need, there are loads of guides online on how you can apply boot options
[05:31] <RP64> right so first is adding that boot option, which a guide will tell me how
[05:31] <RP64> next step is going into ubuntu with that boot option and then finding update for nvidia drivers?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> RP64: yes
[05:31] <RP64> so only 2 steps?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> buhman: what is the distro / OS you are running?
[05:31] <RP64> only 2? you said yes when I only said first
[05:32] <RP64> so i cant tell
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> RP64: add the option to boot with and you will geta disaply, fully update and reboot, then if you get the same again, re-apply the option and install the nvidia proprietary driver
[05:32] <buhman> ActionParsnip: GNU/Linux
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> buhman: which distro?
[05:32] <arghx> buhman: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1
[05:32] <RP64> ActionParsnip: OK thanks bra
[05:33] <buhman> ii  libc6                                2.13-21                      Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> buhman: what is the output of:  cat /proc/version
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> buhman: cat /etc/*-release     will also tell us good things'
[05:34] <amithkk> Oh COME ON
[05:35] <amithkk> even this room is silenced?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> buhman: are you using wrt in your router?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> amithkk: ?
[05:35] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I think he has a lag problem
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: looks like it
[05:35] <amithkk> the ubuntu room: the only place where you can *always* get activity
[05:35] <amithkk> paulus68:  i do not
[05:36] <rs2k> Hello
[05:36] <paulus68> amithkk: then what is your issue
[05:36] <cody__> how how do i compile a file name tibia920.tgz it should be something sipple like xcfe something file name
[05:36] <amithkk> nvm
[05:36] <arghx> amithkk: do you have a ubuntu problem?
[05:36] <amithkk> nah
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> amithkk: its the official supoprt channel of the fastest growing distro, what did you expect ;)
[05:36] <arghx> cody__: a .tgz file is a tar gz archive. like a zip or rar. you need to unpack it
[05:36] <amithkk> my computer is OLD
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> cody__: extract it then look at the contents
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> amithkk: I have oldies too :)
[05:37] <buhman> Linux version 3.0 (zack@foo) (gcc version 4.6.1 20110819 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 30 08:53:25 CEST 2011
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> cody__: http://www.tibia.com/support/?subtopic=faq&question=startlinux   it doesn't need compiling
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> buhman: then you are using Oneiric, right?
[05:37] <cody__> ur right
[05:38] <cody__> its easy
[05:38] <cody__> ok thanks
[05:38] <buhman> ActionParsnip: compiled my own kernel because I didn't like the stock one
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> buhman: we cannot support self compiled kernels here
[05:38] <buhman> that's silliness
[05:39] <buhman> I can't trust vendor compiled kernel
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> buhman: no its quite reasonable, the amount of possible options yo could have set and unset is astronomical
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> buhman: to diagnose an issue with YOUR set of options would take months if not years to get to the bottom of
[05:39] <arghx> buhman: and #ubuntu can't trust you to compiled a working kernel. it seems #ubuntu is right. recreate the problem with a stock kernel
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> buhman: this channel only supports the apps installed from the packages in the official repos
[05:40] <buhman> and yet #gentoo does a quite nice job of helping their users; sounds quite unreasonable
[05:40] <paulus68> buhman:perhaps you need to try gentoo if you want to compile your own kernel
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> buhman: I suggest you ask in #linux
[05:40] <buhman> perhaps they aren't as concerned about making sure you use their distribution they way they want you to
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> buhman: not my policy I'm afraid, channel policy
[05:41] <buhman> ActionParsnip: what http://goo.gl/cEF1w ?
[05:42] <buhman> ActionParsnip: I see that nowhere on there
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> buhman: you can ask in #ubuntu-ops if you like....
[05:42] <buhman> so now this is a kick/ban/quite-able issue?
[05:42] <buhman> quiet*
[05:42] <arghx> ActionParsnip: I suggest you stop arguing. it's pointless by now
[05:42] <IdleOne> custom kernels can't be supported in here because there is no way to know what you messed up.
[05:43] <buhman> IdleOne: again, "no way" seems innaccurate. gentoo does a pretty decent job of supporting that, as an example
[05:43] <IdleOne> go ask #gentoo in that case
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> buhman: example accepted, I've also used gentoo with great result, but custom kernels aren't supported here
[05:44] <paulus68> buhman: as suggested compile your own gentoo kernel
[05:44] <buhman> paulus68: gentoo kernels are more or less exactly the same as the mainline kernel
[05:45] <buhman> paulus68: upstream
[05:45] <paulus68> buhman: agreed however you are able to adapt x number of settings which makes it hard to give support the correct way
[05:46] <buhman> ActionParsnip: there we go; finally failed
[05:46] <buhman> ActionParsnip: didn't work; what next?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> buhman: your kernel and therefore the modules you also made, are not supported here
[05:47] <rs2k> I've been using CentOS 5.X as a LAMP server for a few years now. I've been considering switching to Ubuntu 10.04 because it seems more packages that I use than CentOS does.
[05:47] <buhman> what, because now you're claiming I messed with them somehow?
[05:47] <buhman> what's the difference if I compile ath9k vs the ubuntu package managers?
[05:48] <IdleOne> buhman: you can continue arguing in here which won't get you anywhere or try ##linux
[05:48] <buhman> of course I'd ask there first; nobody seems to have any ideas
[05:48] <arghx> buhman: does the standard ubuntu kernel have the same problem?
[05:49] <buhman> arghx: yes
[05:49] <paulus68> buhman: no we are not saying you messed arround we are only informing you that we don't support customised kernels
[05:49] <rs2k> Is there a list somewhere that can show what difference there are between CentOS and Ubuntu?
[05:49] <arghx> ath9k is a bit of a work in progress unfortunately
[05:50] <buhman> more or less, it all boils down to being roughly the same source, and things would either work or not work depending on whether or not you selected it
[05:50] <buhman> same build process otherwise
[05:51] <buhman> because my wireless is working (to some extent), it would be reasonable to conclude that I was successful
[05:51] <buhman> and that the problem lies somewhere else, like in the ubuntu configuration
[05:51] <urlin2u> rs2k, not a comprehensive one no.
[05:51] <arghx> buhmanyou aren't a programmer, right?
[05:51] <buhman> arghx: more of this "you messed with the kernel" nonsense?
[05:52] <arghx> no. more of "you don#t have a clue what you are talking about. but you#re quite entertaining talking about things you don't have a clue. I think I'll get the popcorn"
[05:53] <buhman> the more likely case would be that I forgot to compile ath9k or something, and that that module is completely unavaliable (not the case)
[05:53] <urlin2u> rs2k, 3 distros available with 4 standardd esktops in ubuntu knd of hard to have a list.
[05:53] <urlin2u> desktops*
[05:53] <buhman> unless I went messing around in that one networking components section, there's not much else to mess up
[05:53] <rs2k> Thanks urlin2u. I'm at the stage where everything I know about running the server is from writing down things I've learned from scouring the net when a problem comes up.
[05:54] <buhman> building the kernel is a very straightforward and easy process
[05:54] <buhman> nothing magical about it
[05:55] <rs2k> I've done things like enable test repos and built programs from source to get things running (like murmur and ICE) when I know ubuntu already has packages available.
[05:56] <rs2k> I'm wondering how much of a security or stabilty risk my server is now.
[05:56] <buhman> just amounts to make menuconfig && make %% make modules_install ; simple
[05:57] <buhman> &&*
[05:57] <buhman> then copying the compiled image to /boot, kexec, off you go
[05:58] <arghx> buhman: this is a very bad and terminally stupid way to do it
[05:58] <arghx> buhman: please look at kernel-package
[05:58] <buhman> arghx: oh? you disagree with the standard kernel build process?
[05:59] <IdleOne> !ot
[05:59] <buhman> think the utilities provided with the mainline kernel aren't good enough for your precious distribution?
[05:59] <buhman> can't be stained with things not from the repositories?
[05:59] <buhman> oh, sorry, someone already said that earlier
[06:00] <buhman> IdleOne: I don't know how your expected to use your installation without modifying it
[06:01] <RP64_> Hello mr action are you there sir
[06:01] <arghx> buhman: it clearly shows you have no clue what kernel-package is and what it does.and you have neither any clue how grub2 works
[06:01] <buhman> I guess the moment you boot it it's no longer in a pristine condition suitable for diagnosis
[06:01] <RP64_> mr action I have a peculiar development if it interests you
[06:01] <rs2k> Other than the syntaxt difference, is there much of a difference between yum and apt-get? I've only ever used yum to install, update, and remove packages.
[06:01] <buhman> arghx: I'm guessing something similar to make-kpgk
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: wassup?  please use TAB to complete nicks too, it highlights my name
[06:01] <buhman> make-kpkg
[06:02] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: hey cool so basically what happened was i was reading the link you sent me
[06:02] <arghx> do you know where make-kpkg comes from? apprently not
[06:03] <buhman> arghx: the kernels reside in /boot, do they not?
[06:03] <RP64_> then at the very end an ubuntuforums mod had this link talking about a new thing called boot repair GUI which does the same thing as manually entering all that text, thing is , in its options for "add a kernel option", it doesn't have the one you said
[06:03] <buhman> arghx: debian
[06:03] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  And so, I don't have that in it, I mean there's probably a way to add it, however do you think the option of nomodeset would do the same thing?
[06:03] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  because that's one of the preset ones
[06:03] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  I'm not an exceptionally lazy person I am just sleep deprived at the moment
[06:04] <arghx> RP64_: just try it?
[06:04] <RP64_> o _  o ?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: you only need to blacklist the nouveau driver, you will then use the nv driver and get a display, you are getting waay too hung up on nomodeset. I ONLY ave that link as it shows how to apply boot options
[06:04] <RP64_> arghx: but if I do that without knowing for sure, it could screw up my whole install i think
[06:04] <arghx> you could have done it by the time you wrote all that stuff in here
[06:04] <arghx> RP64_: you don't think it seems to me
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: the fact it says nomodeset is of no value to you, the METHOD is the ony thing you want from the guide
[06:05] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  Oh, I didn't really understand the whole point of your instructions then, I thought nouveau was the name of a kernel option
[06:05] <arghx> ActionParsnip: would nouveau run without KMS?
[06:05] <RP64_> arghx: I do think but like I said I am very sleep deprived at the moment
[06:05] <arghx> !nouveau
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: no, nouveau is an open source nvidia driver, the bootoption:  nouveau.blacklist=1    tells the kernel to never load it
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> arghx: not sure, I don't get into driver modules that deep tbh
[06:06] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: Oh, well , I am really not good at this, I have no clue how to add "nouveau.blacklist=1" as a bootoption, because in that forum conversation they were only talking about how to add nomodeset kernel option
[06:07] <arghx>  oh well, sleep time
[06:07] <RP64_> arghx: goodnight
[06:08] <buhman> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/484898/ ; why do I keep disconnected, and what's reason 1?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: ok we can do it a different way, boot the OS and hold SHIFT. When the Grub menu shows. Press 'e'   and you will see the boot options. Delete the word:  quiet splash   and in the sAME place, write: nouveau.blacklist=1    then press ENTER to continue the boot
[06:09] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  OH OK perfect, and after that I'll install updates, which will include update to Nvidia drivers AKA fix the problem of black screen, then I'll reboot doing the same thing and replace nouveau.blacklist=1 with quiet splash again?
[06:09] <Chris3> I am trying to install Abobe Acrobat Reader.  I download the .bin file from the adobe site.  Then what do I do with it?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: itsliterally THAT easy
[06:09] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  wow thats awesome but is my second step correct too ?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Chris3: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal with sudo. It is a program
[06:10] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: we had the problem with :386 yesterdays, didn`t we?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: you may not need to blacklist with the updated driver. But yes you may need to re-add the option
[06:10] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: the problem is: ia32-libs depends on that stuff, so gets installed automatically
[06:10] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: just in case another user asks again
[06:10] <amithkk> any windows users around here ;)
[06:11] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: try #microsoft
[06:11] <fritsch> amithkk: sorry #microsoft
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> amithkk: or ##windows
[06:11] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  in other words may need to remove the nouveau.blacklist=1 afterwards, and may need to re add that old option too, by the way if I DO need to do those things how will it let me know?
[06:11] <pumazz> is there a program or something to download streaming videos like realplayer does on windows?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: you won't need to remove it, its only a one shot addition as its not in any confi files, you only added it for this boot
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> pumazz: vlc can do that
[06:12] <blognewb> hi guys whats an open source simple video editing program that i could use for making youtube clips?
[06:12] <pumazz> with vlc wouldn't i need to know the direct url though
[06:13] <amithkk> blognewb: OpenShot?
[06:13] <amithkk> or
[06:13] <amithkk> KdenLive
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/
[06:15] <blognewb> amithkk also guys could you suggest a cheap hd or sd camera while we're at it? <90$ budget?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> pumazz: I guess, there may be addons / extensions for your browser. If you want to download youtube videos then I suggest youtube-dl
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: that is offtopic here
[06:16] <pumazz> youtube and other google video results
[06:18] <qnix> keep up the nice work ubuntu :)
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> pumazz: same deal, youtube-dl will do it, or you can use browser addons/extensions
[06:19] <curious_yellow> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NrRbtt2zyI
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> curious_yellow: please don't post stuff like that in here. This is support only
[06:20] <curious_yellow> it was kinda dead - my bad
[06:20] <curious_yellow> i find this room invaluable
[06:20] <curious_yellow> no disrespect
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> curious_yellow: stuff like that is fine in #ubuntu-offtopic and ##club-ubuntu :D
[06:20] <curious_yellow> thats cool i just posted it in all my channels
[06:20] <curious_yellow> wont do again
[06:20] <curious_yellow> :)
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> thanks ;)
[06:21] <uguuld> i am  now at " Choose and install a graphical interface" part of archlinux install, how do i install xfce, it doesent say nothing in the begginers guide
[06:23] <somsip> uguuld: /join #arch and ask there
[06:24] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  Hey i was AFK im back
[06:24] <Chris3> What would the command look like to run the Acrobat bin file at the command prompt in sudo?
[06:25] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  thanks for ur help man i have no idea how you memorized all of that
[06:25] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  when you don't even need to do it yourself i mean did you memorize all procedures for problems in ubuntu?
[06:26] <herr-gabriel> hello. is it possible to prevent a user from seeing computers that share the same network?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: experience is the way I remember stuff
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: and howto guides I give folks
[06:27] <SilentDis> herr-gabriel: what do you mean by "see"?
[06:28] <herr-gabriel> when I choose the "network" folder I am able to see and connect to most (if not all) available network volumes / computers. this should be prevented.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> herr-gabriel: if you remove it from the sambashare group, it may stop it. You  can always re-add it back if it doesn't achieve the desired result
[06:29] <hyper_ch> hi there, I currently have the problem that neither firefox nor chromium is being started - I get this error  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored
[06:29] <Chris3> Does anyone have patience for a newbie?  I am trying to install an Adobe Acrobat from a bin file.  I am at a command prompt, and in the correct dir. Sudo is installed.  What do I do now?
[06:29] <SilentDis> herr-gabriel: turn off the shares on the remote computers.  alternately, don't share them without username/password.
[06:29] <fritsch> Chris3: chmod +x "the bin file name"
[06:29] <fritsch> Chris3: sudo ./"the bin file name"
[06:29] <fritsch> Chris3: both withouth the \" \"
[06:29] <SilentDis> Chris3: why do it from a bin?
[06:29] <fritsch> Chris3: please remember that this is not good for package management
[06:30] <fritsch> Chris3: you can use the package from partner repo
[06:30] <Chris3> fritsch: send me in the right direction.  Parnter repo?
[06:30] <fritsch> Chris3: can you find acrobat reader in software center?
[06:30] <fritsch> Chris3: what version of ubuntu are you running? natty?
[06:30] <herr-gabriel> SilentDis: this can't be done. I'm setting up some sort of KIOSK computer with a frozen system state and limited control over the system itself (no sudo etc.)
[06:31] <herr-gabriel> ActionParsnip: the user is not in the sambashare group
[06:31] <Chris3> fritsch: It's the latest version.  Let me go find Acrobat in the software center and see.
[06:31] <User123abc> does anyone know why switching to and from X and tty is much slower with nvidia proprietary drivers than with nouveau? Instant with one, couple of seconds with the other.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> herr-gabriel: gotcha
[06:31] <fritsch> Chris3: latest stable version?
[06:32] <Chris3> fritsch:  Yes, the latest stable ver.  And yes, I see Acrobat in the software center now...
[06:32] <fritsch> User123abc: because no kms support from nvidia
[06:32] <fritsch> Chris3: just install it
[06:32] <fritsch> Chris3: and have fun
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> User123abc: they are ironically slower in general to use like that, as well as load at boot (hence no boot splash)
[06:32] <herr-gabriel> ActionParsnip: but it is still possible to access the remote locations
[06:32] <SilentDis> herr-gabriel: if you open it, it will be there (linux  network tools are good at finding such things).  your options are to not open it at all, or require username/passwords to get in.  if you just need to dump files from machine to machine, use sftp (ftp over ssh) with keys already on each machine (no passwords, no ability to 'see' them)
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> herr-gabriel: not sure how you'd do it really tbh
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> herr-gabriel: there will be a way
[06:33] <Chris3> fritsch: Thank you very much.  What is my best course of action when I can't find things in the software center?
[06:33] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: you could block smb port stuff
[06:33] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: withouth them open none can be found
[06:33] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: just two commands of iptables
[06:33] <herr-gabriel> fritsch: sounds promising.
[06:34] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: try to block port 135 TCP and Port 445 TCP
[06:34] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: outgoing and incoming
[06:34] <User123abc> fritsch: got it, thanks.
[06:34] <herr-gabriel> fritsch: will do that. brb :)
[06:34] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  Hey, so that all covered step #1 perfectly but please excuse my severly tired self , I don't remember step #2, it is precisely to use synaptic to update Nvidia drivers, and then reboot after that installation of new drivers? And afterwards, the boot settings will reset to normal because nothing was added to "confi" files, right?
[06:34] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: if your computer should not be seen, just block these ports on your machine
[06:35] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: i would feel more gentle, if i knew what your use case is :-)
[06:36] <User123abc> ActionParsnip: yeah, I can hardly justify using them, but I keep them around for all the 3d games that I never actually play
[06:36] <Chris3> fritsch: Thanks so much for the info.  What is best to do when things are not in the software center?
[06:36] <fritsch> Chris3: you can look for a ppa
[06:36] <fritsch> !ppa
[06:37] <fritsch> Chris3: but they are unsupported, too - but at least they have package management and can be uninstalled with ppa-purge
[06:37] <Chris3> fritsch: Thank you very much
[06:38] <fritsch> Chris3: np
[06:38] <glaucon> Anyone here know an easy way to disable mouse and keyboard?
[06:38] <herr-gabriel> herr-gabriel: I am working at a local german streetnewspaper and we are providing our clients with two iMacs to do stuff on the internet and write applications, search for jobs and so on. But we want to remove the iMacs since they're about to die and replace them with Ubuntu based machines. I use ofris to freeze the system and the user logs in automatically. So basically: the users of this KIOSK should not be able to enter the entire
[06:38] <herr-gabriel> company network because some WILL mess with the files. Sadly I can not bypass any switches or routers to give them their own network
[06:38] <herr-gabriel> that's basically my cause
[06:38] <fritsch> glaucon: put the cable out
[06:38] <glaucon> I want to disable server side input when I'm connectin to my home computer through VNC...
[06:38] <fritsch> glaucon: ah i see
[06:39] <glaucon> yah.
[06:39] <fritsch> glaucon: mmh this depends on the vnc implementation
[06:39] <fritsch> glaucon: because the use a layer to your real mouse
[06:39] <fritsch> glaucon: it could be a problem?
[06:39] <smokeycastle> herr-gabriel cant you set them up on a vlan or something?
[06:39] <Arbition> I am attempting to install ubuntu 11.04 in a virtual machine running EFI. It installs fine, but doesn't seem to do anything when it boots, as in, doesn't accept input properly and does not start X successfully
[06:40] <fritsch> glaucon: your mouse movement are redirected over the real mouse i think
[06:40] <Chris3> !ppa
[06:40] <fritsch> glaucon: so - no real working idea
[06:40] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: having them on the same network
[06:40] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: is not good anyways
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> glaucon: you can unload the modules for them but you will need to ssh in to reload them as you will have no way to load them back in (short of a reboot)
[06:41] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: are you sure that mouse will still working?
[06:41] <massi> ciao qualcuno puo aiutarmi
[06:42] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: i do not really know how the external devices are mapped in, because xserver listens on devices?
[06:42] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: if you are in karlsruhe, i can help you directly
[06:42] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: hehe
[06:42] <Arbition> Has anyone had some experience running ububtu in VMs?
[06:42] <Arbition> *ubuntu
[06:43] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  Hey im sorry to bother you because I know you're sort of carrying everyone on your back atm, but I just had a last question to clarify... I mean is the last step precisely to use synaptic to update Nvidia drivers, and tehn reboot after that installation of new drivers? And afterwards, the boot settings will reset to normal because nothing was added to "confi" files, right?
[06:44] <RP64_> cus I wrote it all down up till this point i just need to clarify what to write last
[06:44] <fritsch> RP64_: yes this should be the case. the kernel parameter was temporarily
[06:44] <fritsch> RP64_: i would try to install nvidia binary with jockey first
[06:44] <fritsch> RP64_: System -> Hardware drivers
[06:44] <herr-gabriel> fritsch: hamburg ;)
[06:45] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: ah okay, that is little far
[06:45] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: so you basically want, that the ubuntu users do not see the "windows network"?
[06:45] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: i would just uninstall the libs doing this
[06:45] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: and block the ports
[06:45] <RP64_> fritsch: hold on what's the benefit of installing nvidia binary with jockey ( I have no clue what any of that is ) compared to downloading the new nvidia drivers?
[06:45] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: so no one comes out
[06:45] <herr-gabriel> fritsch: what libs would that be?
[06:45] <fritsch> RP64_: do not download the sh script
[06:46] <RP64_> fritsch: don't know what an sh script is either
[06:46] <fritsch> herr-gabriel: at least: smbclient python-smbc libsmbclient
[06:46] <fritsch> RP64_: nvidia binary gives you 3D accelaration
[06:46] <herr-gabriel> fritsch: thanks, will try that
[06:46] <uguuld> how to type the "~" on a american keyboard ?
[06:46] <RP64_> fritsch: So Nvidia binary is the name of the downloadable extension to your drivers which will add onto the updated Nvidia drivers I download?
[06:47] <RP64_> fritsch: because right now my whole problem is my computer just sits at a black screen of death when logged onto ubuntu
[06:47] <RP64_> fritsch: fresh after install
[06:47] <fritsch> RP64_: jep - i know
[06:47] <geirha> uguuld: left of 1 iirc
[06:47] <fritsch> RP64_: please login - go to hardware drivers and choose nvidia-current
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: get fully updated, then reboot. Have you done that?
[06:48] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  hey no, I just wanted to clarify that my final steps were to do that um and then yeah im just about to do that
[06:48] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  however fritsch has a point of something to do with nvidia binary install that INSTEAD fritsch didnt you say that?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: get updates and reboot, see how it goes from there
[06:48] <jonese> I have a script placed in /home/user/folder. I want to execute this script without having to cd into that catalog each time - where do I put it?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: I recommend getting updates first, then install the driver
[06:48] <fritsch> RP64_: do what ActionParsnip says it is the correct way
[06:48] <wyang_> i want to others view my desktop
[06:48] <geirha> uguuld: With shift
[06:49] <wyang_> how could i do this?
[06:49] <SilentDis> jonese: anywhere in your $path
[06:49] <fritsch> wyang_: there is desktop sharing integrated
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> jonese: you can make an alias, or you can copy the script to /usr/bin
[06:49] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  OK thanks dudes ill try it
[06:49] <fritsch> wyang_: Applications -> Internet
[06:49] <jonese> SilentDis, ActionParsnip: thanks! :)
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> jonese: or you can add the folder to the end of your $PATH
[06:51] <wyang_> fritsch, remote desktop viewer?
[06:52] <wyang_> fritsch: this is used to view others
[06:52] <wyang_> not let others to view my desktop
[06:52] <netlab> hello
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> wyang_: there is vino in a default install which others can connect to with standard vnc clients
[06:52] <fritsch> wyang_: you have to install http://gnomejournal.org/article/29/remote-desktop-administration-using-vino
[06:52] <fritsch> wyang_: vino
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> wyang_: VNC has zero security so I suggest you use an SSH tunnel if they are connecting over WwW
[06:53] <jefimenko> is there a bug in apt pinning in 10.04? i'm trying to use a particular package from natty, but i cannot for the life of me get it to work
[06:53] <jefimenko> please see: http://pastebin.com/QWCaVA16
[06:53] <dr_willis> ive been ysing teamviewer a lot lately ;)
[06:54] <jefimenko> i think it has to do with the package name "libsqlite3-0"
[06:54] <jefimenko> i think it might be confusing apt
[06:54] <wyang_> ActionParsnip, you suggest to use vino?
[06:54] <jefimenko> other packages work fine
[06:54] <dr_willis> wya
[06:54] <wyang_> ActionParsnip: apt-get install vino?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> wyang_: I don't like VNC at all, but it suits your needs and it's part of a stock install. So yes
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> wyang_: it's already installed
[06:54] <dr_willis> wyang_:  this in a lan or over the internet?
[06:54] <fritsch> jefimenko: apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> wyang_: that command needs prefixing with sudo, users cannot install apps
[06:55] <adante> hi, i have plugged in a usb key to my computer, but i cannot do anything with it? what do i ened to do to use it? http://pastebin.com/3zWuzbNc
[06:55] <jefimenko> fritsch: i did that in the pastebin. please check it (it shows not found)
[06:55] <fritsch> jefimenko: please pastebin the real content of the test.pref file
[06:55] <massi> ciao qualcuno puo aiutarmi
[06:55] <fritsch> jefimenko: cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/test.pref
[06:55] <dr_willis> adante:  what filesystem is on it?
[06:55] <adante> dr_willis: i can't tell
[06:56] <fritsch> jefimenko: because of the ">" to be sure
[06:56] <adante> dr_willis: from dmesg log it suggests it attaches as /dev/sde but i can't fdisk this
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> !it | massi
[06:56] <zen_> hi anybody please help....... install ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 but can't find skype.... as per few posts also enabled multiarch but still didn't get it
[06:56] <jefimenko> fritsch: http://pastebin.com/wTM0Le94
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> zen_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything Oneiric based until release day
[06:56] <zen_> k
[06:56] <SilentDis> !beta | zen_
[06:56] <dr_willis> adante:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sde fails?
[06:57] <jefimenko> fritsch: i just did a fresh copy&paste for that
[06:57] <SilentDis> stupid bot!
[06:57] <fritsch> jefimenko: thx
[06:57] <adante> dr_willis: it just says nothing
[06:57] <SilentDis> zen_: head over to #ubuntu+1 :)
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: how is she stupid?
[06:57] <adante> dr_willis: fdisk /dev/sde says "Unable to open /dev/sde" ( as per pastebin)
[06:57] <fritsch> jefimenko: increase priority to 1000
[06:57] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: I was hoping the !beta would, logically, direct to either +1 or the website.
[06:58] <jefimenko> fritsch: still not found
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: you can suggest factoids if you wish
[06:58] <dr_willis> adante:  you want data from it? or just tring to get it wirking?
[06:58] <fritsch> jefimenko: apt-get update before
[06:58] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: I know, i actually had a few in there in 6.06 dealing with nvidia drivers, too heh
[06:58] <adante> dr_willis: get data - well i want to check what it is before i wipe, just incase i need it
[06:58] <fritsch> jefimenko: please pastebin your sources.list
[06:59] <jefimenko> fritsch: it's still showing the same: http://pastebin.com/WGHtTWwG
[06:59] <dr_willis> adante:  check out ddrescue guides.
[06:59] <jefimenko> fritsch: that's after a apt-get update
[06:59] <fritsch> jefimenko: i think you do not have the natty sources in sources.list
[06:59] <jefimenko> fritsch: i do, because it works with other packages from natty
[06:59] <fritsch> jefimenko: so it cannot find the pin
[07:00] <jefimenko> fritsch: i can show change test.pref right now to a different package and show you the policy result,. one second...
[07:00] <jefimenko> fritsch: http://pastebin.com/hJUETNkY
[07:01] <jefimenko> that's after changing the package from libsqlite3-0 to opennebula
[07:01] <fritsch> jefimenko: ah
[07:01] <fritsch> jefimenko: the first rule could stop the second from working
[07:01] <fritsch> jefimenko: but wait, no
[07:02] <jefimenko> fritsch: it should still at least list it in the apt-cache policy though, right?
[07:02] <jefimenko> fritsch: it doesn't find the package at all
[07:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: jep, this makes me wonder
[07:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: what tells apt-cache policy if you keep the libsqlite3-0 entry out?
[07:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: then it should list the natty one, am i right?
[07:02] <jefimenko> fritsch: you mean, without test.pref at all?
[07:03] <jefimenko> fritsch: or if i allow ALL natty packages
[07:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: nope just without the libsqlite3-0 entry
[07:03] <jefimenko> fritsch: let me try
[07:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: you have the default policy in the first block
[07:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: which says: natty must be -1
[07:04] <jefimenko> fritsch: are you asking me to change -1 to 1000 then?
[07:04] <fritsch> jefimenko: nope
[07:04] <fritsch> jefimenko: keep it like it is
[07:04] <fritsch> jefimenko: just remove the special handling for libmysql package
[07:04] <fritsch> jefimenko: and have a look what apt-cache policy reports then
[07:05] <jefimenko> fritsch: right now libsqlite3-0 isn't there at all. the contents of the file looks like: http://pastebin.com/HUYSdVJt
[07:05] <fritsch> jefimenko: and apt-cache policy?
[07:06] <jefimenko> fritsch: and apt-cache policy shows this for libsqlite3-0: http://pastebin.com/awnL8wNi
[07:06] <jefimenko> fritsch: so it's not picking it up at all
[07:06] <fritsch> jefimenko: mmh i cannot understand
[07:06] <fritsch> jefimenko: normally you should get: -1 for the natty version
[07:06] <fritsch> jefimenko: and 500 for the default version
[07:06] <jefimenko> fritsch: i know :(
[07:06] <fritsch> jefimenko: because of the first entry Package: *
[07:07] <z3bra_> Bonjour =)
[07:07] <jefimenko> fritsch: it doesn't see libsqlite3-0 at all from natty
[07:07] <fritsch> jefimenko: it is from main though - you have the main sources integrated?
[07:08] <fritsch> jefimenko: in apt sources list?
[07:08] <fritsch> jefimenko: sorry, cannot help
[07:08] <jefimenko> fritsch: ! that might be it
[07:08] <jefimenko> fritsch: i might only have universe here
[07:08] <fritsch> jefimenko: hehe
[07:08] <fritsch> jefimenko: so go for main :-)
[07:08] <jefimenko> fritsch: wow, thanks. let me check it
[07:09] <fritsch> jefimenko: because of this i wanted to have the sources.list above
[07:09] <z3bra_> Got a question... Can I manage an Apache server installed on windows server 2003 via my ubuntu ?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> z3bra_: sure, you can use rdesktop and RDP on as you normally would
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> !find libsqlite
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> !info libsqlite3-0 natty
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> jefimenko: ^
[07:10] <z3bra_> Okay thanks ^
[07:11] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: if "main" would be colorized, this would be an advantage
[07:11] <jefimenko> fritsch: i know, i feel really bad about that because i just saw the other package pulled in
[07:11] <jefimenko> fritsch: that was it
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: main is enabled by default
[07:12] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: not in his setup
[07:12] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: he is running lucid and pinning packages from natty
[07:12] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: to selectively upgrade
[07:12] <jefimenko> fritsch: i'm in lucid, so natty was being pulled in selectively
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: makes sense though :), could suggest it
[07:12] <fritsch> jefimenko: i know :-)
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: oh jeeze, that's going to make a world of mess, is not advised and not in any way supported
[07:13] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: user asked :-)
[07:13] <jefimenko> hehe
[07:13] <jefimenko> there are bugs in natty that are show stoppers
[07:13] <fritsch> jefimenko: your upgrade path is broken then
[07:13] <jefimenko> otherwise, i would upgrade
[07:13] <fritsch> jefimenko: l m n because you are overjumping maverick
[07:13] <jefimenko> hmm
[07:14] <fritsch> jefimenko: but - this is not a problem
[07:14] <fritsch> jefimenko: with pinning you also can downgrade
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> jefimenko: mixing debs between releases is not supported, you will break your OS
[07:14] <fritsch> jefimenko: to your lucid libs before an upgrade
[07:14] <fritsch> jefimenko: though it feels like 10 years ago, when i use debian unstabel with experimental mixed
[07:15] <fritsch> jefimenko: daily breakage at 11pm
[07:15] <jefimenko> i'm actually trying to use opennebula from a later release than lucid
[07:15] <jefimenko> the version in lucid is very old and has bugs
[07:15] <fritsch> jefimenko: lets see for a ppa
[07:15] <fritsch> jefimenko: https://launchpad.net/~opennebula-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[07:16] <fritsch> jefimenko: there is 2.0 for 2010
[07:16] <jefimenko> :)
[07:16] <fritsch> jefimenko: what version is in natty?
[07:16] <jefimenko> natty has 2.0.1
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> jefimenko: then report the bugs and the package will be updated
[07:16] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Hey man, it totally didn't work D:
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> RP64: did you get updated?
[07:16] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  what happened was I did what you said, booted it and it didn't fix the black screen problem
[07:16] <RP64> it loads onto ubuntu for like half a sec, I can see the desktop and move the mouse everythings good
[07:17] <RP64> then 0.5 seconds later, black screen of death
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> RP64: did you get updated?
[07:17] <RP64> no obviously not I can't even see the screen!
[07:17] <RP64> lol
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> RP64: are you on a wiredconnection>
[07:17] <RP64> the nouveau.blacklist=1 didn't work is my point
[07:17] <RP64> im on wireless
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> RP64: is the system a laptop?
[07:17] <RP64> but , I can't see the screen, I can't log into the system
[07:18] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, can anyone give me a hand with nmap?
[07:18] <RP64> yeah its a laptop but its a desktop replacement laptop, huge and meant for gaming qosmio x300
[07:18] <fritsch> RP64: switch terminal with ctl alt F1
[07:18] <jefimenko> ActionParsnip: i can report the bugs, but my first priority is to get this functional for work
[07:18] <RP64> fritsch: I dont get to see any terminal, I can't even log into my account and see my desktop
[07:18] <fritsch> RP64: login and install nvidia-current
[07:18] <RP64> fritsch: I can't log in!
[07:18] <fritsch> RP64: press ctl alt F1
[07:18] <RP64> fritsch: I said this 9 times
[07:18] <fritsch> RP64: you did not read
[07:18] <RP64> fritsch: yo the nouveau.blacklist-1 doesn't work
[07:18] <jefimenko> ActionParsnip: i figured it would be a long time until the newer version is backported to lucid. it's a new major release available in natty
[07:19] <RP64> fritsch: I did read, you're saying log in, but I can't log in
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> RP64: if you hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, you can then boot into safemode graphics from there
[07:19] <fritsch> RP64: i said: press ctl alt F1
[07:19] <RP64> fritsch: at which point?
[07:19] <fritsch> RP64: to switch to a non graphical terminal
[07:19] <fritsch> RP64: when it gets black
[07:19] <mamooth> Hi there
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> jefimenko: mixing packages between releases is not supported.  I suggest you simply upgrade to Natty and you will be fine
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> hi mamooth
[07:20] <RP64> ActionParsnip: so do you mean shift at ubuntu's booting or when I turn the computer on
[07:20] <RP64> fritsch: OK Ill try that thanks
[07:20] <mamooth> I have some issue with gnome-shell and blender. The WM is taking over blender for hotkeys. Is it an expected behaviour?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> RP64: as soon as the system starts to boot, just like when you added the nouveau.blacklist=1 boot option
[07:20] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Oh, in that case I didn't need to press shift
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you just select the recovery mode options
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[07:21] <ActionParsnip> RP64: how did you apply the boot option then!?