[05:42] <crdlb> Dexikiix: what's wrong with pidgin? funpidgin.sf.net has an ubuntu package though
[05:42] <bazhang> take all dictionary discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:42] <joejoecircusboy> Miesco_: Says who? You? Who are you?
[05:42] <Zetakun> im doing it exactly as the prompt sais to
[05:42] <salmon> ok i know was just on here a few mins ago but i was hoping someone could help me... i instaled compiz-fusion on my ubuntu but i can't seem to find where it is. anyone know where it's hiding from me?
[05:42] <Bodsda> Miesco_, so? your last sentence was not gramatically correct but i still understood it
[05:42] <Miesco_> joejoecircusboy: Says the dictionary
[05:42] <Zetakun> how do i make this show who i am replying to?
[05:43] <bazhang> Miesco_, joejoecircusboy take chat to ot channel
[05:43] <nickrud> joejoecircusboy #ubuntu-offtopic, Miesco_ Bodsda this ends here. One way or another, and I'm not choosing sides, just naming the latest commenters
[05:43] <focus_> does anyone have a resource that explains different stages in a linux process (zombified, etc) please I can't find much on google
[05:43] <Flannel> Zetakun: just prepend the persons name.  Usually you can type a few letters and hit tab and your client will complete it
[05:43] <kindofabuzz> Zetakun: start typing there name, hit tab to auto complete to save typing
[05:43] <joe__> #christian-chat
[05:43] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, grub-install /dev/hda, mkdir: cannot create directory '/boot/grub':Permission denied
[05:43] <leo_rockw> salmon: you need to install another package to set it up... lemme look for the package name
[05:43] <Bodsda> sorry nickrud
[05:43] <Miesco_> Okay im in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <nat2610> hi, I'm using the last ubuntu and I have a hard time playing video .mov I'm able to open them with mplayer but the navigation is almost impossible, when I open them into vlc, the sounds works but not the image. Also I notice on vlc that ffmpeg "ffmpeg decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)" ... and the computer is less than a year hold with...
[05:43] <nat2610> ...the right nividia inside and the drivers installed (with envyNG)  anybody know what to do ?
[05:44] <salmon> leo_rockw: thank you
[05:44] <Dexikiix> crdlb: the text entry box resizes itself in weird ways... its really annoying... and yeah they have a deb but its an older version :p
[05:44] <joejoecircusboy> Miesco_: I'm not actually interested in debating the topic, but thanks
[05:44] <Zetakun> sry, i accidentally quit the channel >.<
[05:44] <crdlb> Dexikiix: -_-
[05:44] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, i try sudo  grub-install /dev/hda, /dev/hda does not have any corresponding Bios drive
[05:44] <Dexikiix> crdlb: fine i'll get the older dev
[05:44] <Dexikiix> deb
[05:44] <leo_rockw> dmi3on: it might be sda or sdb or hdb or... it could be many different things
[05:45] <crdlb> Dexikiix: the '-_-' was for caring about the input box. If you give it a chance, you'll find that it doesn't really matter :)
[05:45] <JKeller1068> quick optical question for you guys
[05:45] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, can you tell me how can i find out what is it ?
[05:46] <JKeller1068> sata drive in 8.04, working up until a week ago.  still listed in fstab, i cannot see the drive listed in dev period
[05:46] <Dexikiix> crdlb: but it BUGS me...
[05:46] <zmig> Zetakun: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/disk -o force, try that. And make sure its in your fstab
[05:46] <JKeller1068> *optical drive
[05:46] <leo_rockw> salmon: there's compizconfig-settings-manager and simple-ccsm
[05:46] <leo_rockw> salmon: the simple one is... well... simpler :P
[05:46] <Zetakun> fstab? (sry complete linux nub
[05:46] <leo_rockw> dmi3on: it depends on what type of hard drive you have
[05:46] <salmon> thanks leo_rockw
[05:46] <leo_rockw> salmon: np
[05:47] <crdlb> Dexikiix: does it start out as two lines tall by default?
[05:47] <zmig> Zetakun: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:47] <naknomik> Is there a way to burn a playlist onto a CD from Rhythmbox?
[05:47] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, ok how do i find out now what type of hard drive i have
[05:47] <Zetakun> ty
[05:47] <Dexikiix> crdlb: yes, or 3 and gets smaller when im typing in it
[05:47] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, can you tell me more info
[05:47] <Dexikiix> crdlb: then bigger again when i stop typing
[05:48] <crdlb> Dexikiix: did it ever occur to you that you might be seeing a bug? :)
[05:48] <Zetakun> ok, I typed it in.... what now...
[05:49] <Dexikiix> crdlb: it did but leo_rockw said it was universal... and i read about it on the webpage
[05:49] <leo_rockw> crdlb: the new version of pidgin autoresizes the textbox... pretty annoying
[05:49] <leo_rockw> crdlb: they forked it because of that.
[05:49] <crdlb> leo_rockw: but it only resizes _up_
[05:50] <joejoecircusboy> (12:49:50 AM) leo_rockw: crdlb: they forked it because of that. << What's the fork called?
[05:50] <crdlb> leo_rockw: many of the users who originally complained were not seeing the intentional result
[05:50] <bazhang> carrier
[05:50] <naknomik> Is Serpentine not installed in Hardy?
[05:50] <leo_rockw> joejoecircusboy: the present name is carrier. the first name was funpidgin
[05:50] <bazhang> joejoecircusboy, carrier
[05:50] <joejoecircusboy> thx
[05:50] <Dexikiix> crdlb: whats the intentional result?
[05:50] <leo_rockw> crdlb: I use kopete anyway
[05:51] <crdlb> Dexikiix: that it grows as needed. If you type more than two lines, it increases; but if you only type a short message, the input box doesn't waste space
[05:51] <debasys> last night i uninstalled some softwares which i don't use, now after rebooting this morning, i can't see my anything on my desktop. neither i can go to any /Home or orher Place.
[05:51] <debasys> the error says "There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location."
[05:51] <Dexikiix> crdlb: i wouldn't mind that, but it grows after i press enter and stays bigger
[05:51] <joejoecircusboy> I swear to god, OSS developers intentionally pick the crappiest possible names for their projects
[05:51] <mib_9yamva> hi, i'm trying to install linux-source and it says: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main linux-source-2.6.24 2.6.24-19.34  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:51] <debasys> i removed 'evolution', games, rythmbox
[05:51] <mib_9yamva> is that normal?
[05:52] <leo_rockw> joejoecircusboy: why do you say that? GIMP is such a great name :P
[05:52] <joejoecircusboy> hehe
[05:52] <leo_rockw> dmi3on: try ls /dev/sd and instead of hitting enter hit tab
[05:52] <repsol_> joejoecircusboy, is an awesome screen name
[05:52] <joejoecircusboy> haha, thx
[05:52] <leo_rockw> dmi3on: do you have only one HD?
[05:52] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, i find i have sda3 were i instal ubuntu
[05:53] <Dexikiix> dpkg-deb: subprocess killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:53] <Dexikiix> crdlb: leo_rockw ^
[05:53] <crdlb> Dexikiix: after pressing enter, the input box should always return to 2 lines
[05:53] <dmi3on> leo_rockw, doesnt work
[05:53] <debasys> folks wht do i do now? i can't see my folders/files. it says "There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location."
[05:53] <leo_rockw> dmi3on: I'm not really that experienced with grub. I don't even dual boot
[05:53] <Dexikiix> crdlb: yeah it does but its annoying, i want it to stay at 1 line...
[05:53] <dmi3on> okk
[05:53] <_numbers_> is ubuntu more stable than using fedora ??
[05:53] <debasys> how do i know what i removed so that i can reinstall it
[05:54] <joejoecircusboy> _numbers_: No, they're about the same
[05:54] <_numbers_> ok
[05:54] <leo_rockw> _numbers_: define stable
[05:54] <dmi3on> can any one help me with dual boot
[05:54] <bazhang> _numbers_, try the livecd; this is a support channel
[05:54] <cratel> I drag the terminal launcher to the top taskbar and when I restart X it is not there. Then I drag another and suddenly I have 2.
[05:54] <RadiCal> i probably can dmi3on, whats the problem?
[05:54] <_numbers_> everything disappears on fedora for me
[05:54] <Dexikiix> dmi3on: maybe i can
[05:54] <repsol_> _numbers_, that is an opinion I say try them both and decide on your own
[05:54] <leo_rockw> _numbers_: then try ubuntu :)
[05:54] <dmi3on> i cant load vista and i cant load ubuntu error 25
[05:54] <repsol_> I like both for different reasons
[05:54] <joejoecircusboy> _numbers_: Ubuntu does the same, it's a feature in the lastest Gnome
[05:54] <bazhang> _numbers_, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:54] <_numbers_> when i minimize xchat,torrent client,amsn etc..
[05:54] <joejoecircusboy> _numbers_: (joking)
[05:54] <RadiCal> first, what loader are you using dmi3on, grub?
[05:55] <dmi3on> RadiCal, after i fallow this steps
[05:55] <crdlb> Dexikiix: edit > preferences > conversations > minimimum input area height in lines ?
[05:55] <dmi3on> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:55] <Dexikiix> lemme see
[05:55] <mib_9yamva> how can i see which older versions are available for linux-source ?
[05:55] <dmi3on> minal launcher to the top taskbar and when I restart X it is not there. Then I drag another and suddenly I have 2.
[05:55] <dmi3on> * Penol<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
 i probably can dmi3on, whats the problem?
 everything disappears on fedora for me
 dmi3on: maybe i can
[05:55] <FloodBot1> dmi3on: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 _numbers_, that is an opinion I say try them both and decide on your own
[05:55] <leo_rockw> mib_9yamva: apt-cache search linux-source
[05:55] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com dmi3on  not here
[05:56] <crdlb> Dexikiix: that's new in 2.4.2, I don't know if hardy has that yet
[05:56] <Dexikiix> crdlb: that option doesnt exist
[05:56] <RadiCal> dmi3on, you can also ask for help in #grub, which could give you better answers
[05:56] <Dexikiix> ah
[05:56] <RadiCal> dmi3on, let me see what error 25 means...
[05:56] <profoX`> hi.. my cd drive doesn't want to open anymore in Ubuntu, this happens a lot lately.. what could be wrong..
[05:56] <Dexikiix> crdlb: what are you on?
[05:56] <profoX`> the eject button on the drive does not respond; there is no dvd/cd in the drive; eject on terminal does not work either
[05:57] <LSD|Ninja> profoX`: sure it's not a mechanical problem?
[05:57] <crdlb> Dexikiix: this machine is running another distro which isn't really relevent :>
[05:57] <joejoecircusboy> profoX`: Does it work during POST?
[05:57] <profoX`> cd/dvd drive itself works, after a reboot it works in ubuntu as well, until it decides to not work
[05:57] <profoX`> joejoecircusboy: yes
[05:57] <Dexikiix> crdlb: ok
[05:57] <profoX`> LSD|Ninja: i am pretty sure
[05:57] <joejoecircusboy> profoX`: If it opens during POST, not a mechanical problem
[05:57] <repsol_> profoX`, try it as root in a cli
[05:58] <RadiCal> dmi3on, its a disk-read error
[05:58] <repsol_> open and shell and  type sudo eject
[05:58] <profoX`> repsol_: already tried that didnt work
[05:58] <visf> hi i was thinking is there a software for ubuntu to extract video from web site like movie thriller?
[05:58] <RadiCal> dmi3on, have you checked to make sure you've pointed grub to the right drive for XP and/or ubuntu?
[05:58] <dmi3on> RadiCal, how can i fix it ?
[05:58] <repsol_> some app is using it then profoX`
[05:58] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey all, I'm having a scrolling problem in firefox. It is laggy, mainly when i'm in a box to edit text. The thing is, it works fine on my other computer, which is not as good.
[05:58] <Wavesonics> hey I'm tyring to get a cron job working but need some help
[05:58] <profoX`> repsol_: there is no cd/dvd in the drive..
[05:58] <dmi3on> RadiCal, no :(
[05:58] <repsol_> I know but some app is using it
[05:58] <JKeller1068> Optical question for you guys.  Sata optical, working until about a week ago, now not seen by 8.04.  Link is still intact in fstab, but I cannot see it in /dev.  thanks in advance.
[05:58] <dmi3on> RadiCal, i didnt think is so sirous
[05:58] <profoX`> hmm.. I had a dvd in it a while ago, I ejected the dvd, I closed it again, and now it won't open up anymore..
[05:58] <repsol_> do you have a movie or music app running?
[05:59] <profoX`> this has happened more times already
[05:59] <cratel> Wavesonics: what are you trying to do, what have you tried, and how did it not work?
[05:59] <joejoecircusboy> profoX`: try 'lsof', grep for the drive's dev file
[05:59] <profoX`> repsol_: umm, no
[05:59] <profoX`> joejoecircusboy: k
[05:59] <RadiCal> dmi3on - > goto /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:59] <bobertdos> WhoNeedszzz: Which sites?
[05:59] <Wavesonics> cratel: Sorry i posting this: http://pastebin.com/df01595b
[05:59] <RadiCal> open that up, dmi3on, root will help if you need to edit it.
[05:59] <profoX`> joejoecircusboy: ahh.. ok i got it
[05:59] <Wavesonics> does that look like the right format?
[05:59] <nat2610> hi, I'm using the last ubuntu and I have a hard time playing video .mov I'm able to open them with mplayer but the navigation is almost impossible, when I open them into vlc, the sounds works but not the image. Also I notice on vlc that ffmpeg "ffmpeg decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)" ... and the computer is less than a year hold with...
[05:59] <WhoNeedszzz> bobertdos: can't say off the top of my head, the main one right now is a forum site
[05:59] <nat2610> ...the right nividia inside and the drivers installed (with envyNG)  anybody know what to do ?
[05:59] <joejoecircusboy> profoX`: what was it/
[06:00] <cratel> Wavesonics, you want it to run the updateip command hourly?
[06:00] <profoX`> joejoecircusboy: some process that was running in the bg which should have stopped already; mplayer
[06:00] <Wavesonics> yes
[06:00] <leo_rockw> okay everyone, good night
[06:00] <sajuuk> looking for a program like Skype, that is compatible towindows skype people
[06:00] <joejoecircusboy> profoX`: Ah, good to know... cool
[06:00] <repsol_> profoX`,
[06:00] <junkDawgie> 'lo folks
[06:00] <Wavesonics> cratel: yes
[06:00]  * repsol_ winks
[06:00] <joejoecircusboy> repsol_: << good call on the music app
[06:00] <profoX`> I didn't know it could keep the drive occupied without anything being mounted
[06:01] <bobertdos> WhoNeedszzz: I have found this to be a problem with no real solution where Firefox is concerned. I suppose the only alternative is to try a different browser.
[06:01] <repsol_> joejoecircusboy, we rock
[06:01] <Wavesonics> cratel: it's actuall just a file with some shell commands in it
[06:01] <WhoNeedszzz> bobertdos: that won't happen
[06:01] <cratel> Wavesonics: I've never seen the SHELL line there. It might make sense but I've never seen it. Did you read to add that somewhere in a cron?
[06:01] <joejoecircusboy> hehe
[06:01] <Wavesonics> cratel: ya it was in an example somewhere
[06:02] <WhoNeedszzz> bobertdos: firefox rules. And it works fine on my laptop and i'm running all the same stuff so there must be some setting that got messed up or something
[06:02] <Wavesonics> cratel: are cron jobs run as the user who's crontab they are on?
[06:02] <cratel> Wavesonics, once an hour on the hour you'd have an entry like: 0 * * * * /home/adam/cronJobs/updateIp
[06:02] <bobertdos> WhoNeedszzz: If it has anything to do with anything, my guess would be Compiz Fusion.
[06:02]  * joejoecircusboy can't wait to buy the 2010 edition Oxford Dictionary, with the word 'unmount' in it :P
[06:03] <profoX`> joejoecircusboy: really?
[06:03] <cratel> Wavesonics, I believe they are run as whatever user you set them up with using crontab -e. Have a look at http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/crontab.htm
[06:03] <profoX`> whats the description
[06:03] <WhoNeedszzz> bobertdos: that can't be as disabling it doesn't change anything
[06:03] <cratel> Wavesonics: also I think the SHELL line is just wrong and I'd take it out. I don't see why you'd need it. It should be in your updateIP as the first line instead.
[06:03] <joejoecircusboy> (01:03:15 AM) profoX`: joejoecircusboy: really? << just joking about an early convo... nm
[06:03] <jb_on_eee> hi guys
[06:04] <cratel> Wavesonics, first line of updateIP might be #!/bin/bash
[06:04] <debasys> i see i have removed nautilus , good thing is Synaptic had History!!
[06:04] <bobertdos> WhoNeedszzz: Well, all I know is that I've run into it too for only certain sites, and I haven't found a fix either
[06:04] <Wavesonics> ok
[06:04] <profoX`> oo.. oke ;p
[06:04] <debasys> now as i have removed nautilus, i would like to experiment, wht will be a more light-weight file manager?
[06:04] <itai-michaelson> how do i set it so when i right-click an image i get an option "edit" which opens kolourpaint?
[06:04] <WhoNeedszzz> Anyone actually know a solution?
[06:04] <Hansophobia> it is a good thing! I always forget what I was doing/installing
[06:04] <itai-michaelson> (in nautilus)
[06:05] <junkDawgie> anybody else fooled with that app, yakuake?
[06:05] <Grobvok> debasys:  Try ROX.
[06:05] <profoX`> junkDawgie: used to use it
[06:05] <Hansophobia> I just downloaded it
[06:05] <saypher> #ubuntu.es
[06:05] <Hansophobia> it looks kinda  cool so far
[06:05] <profoX`> junkDawgie: nowadays I just keep 1 terminal window with screen running open at all times..
[06:06] <profoX`> (yakuake is a bit cooler though)
[06:06] <debasys> Grobvok: sure :)
[06:06] <junkDawgie> that sounds logical profox
[06:06] <Wavesonics> cratel: how would i get it to fire minutely for testing?
[06:06] <murraymd> is there a way to enable or verify if sli is running? (nvidia 9600 cards)
[06:06] <junkDawgie> that was my thought too.... when you use it enough... its cool
[06:06] <joejoecircusboy> murraymd: I'm guessing nvidia-settings?
[06:06] <cratel> Wavesonics, replace the 0 in the first column with a *
[06:07] <itai-michaelson> debasys, i like pcmanfm
[06:07] <Wavesonics> cratel: aahh ok i get how these thigns work onw, thanks man
[06:07] <cratel> Wavesonics: sure. Gotta go. Good luck.
[06:07] <Wavesonics> thanks man
[06:07] <itai-michaelson> debasys, or thunar if you need more functionality
[06:07] <debasys> itai-michaelson: u mean PCMan, can i install Thunar in Gnome or i need XFCE?
[06:08] <murraymd> well i've been playing around with the x server setting but i can't seem to get anything to actually write out plain as day sli. i've tried a few switched throught the terminal with nvidia-xconfig -sli. nuthing to really verify
[06:08] <jb_on_eee> how do i get flash on ff?
[06:08] <itai-michaelson> debasys, you can install in gnome kde no problem
[06:08] <junkDawgie> lol, will dolphin ever be solid.... thunar just seems more reliable
[06:08] <itai-michaelson> debasys, http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
[06:08] <Scorp> I have a laptop with 3 gigs of RAM... Should i set swappiness to 0 since the RAM would suffice any requirements of ubuntu????
[06:08] <s3a> Scorp: set swappiness to 5
[06:09] <joejoecircusboy> (01:08:11 AM) jb_on_eee: how do i get flash on ff?<< http://ubuntuguide.org
[06:09] <_illuminati> Scorp, 0 swap is enough
[06:09] <l337ingDisorder> jb_on_eee: if you go to a website that has a flash animation embedded (ie, any youtube site) then there'll be a bar at the top of the firefox window that says "Install Missing Plugins..."
[06:09] <l337ingDisorder> jb_on_eee: just click that.
[06:09] <debasys> itai-michaelson: yes just googled ;)
[06:09] <dexikiix> ugh
[06:09] <eddiestone> hello. how do I change from gdm to kdm ?
[06:09] <dexikiix> this is bugging me
[06:09] <joejoecircusboy> (01:08:59 AM) s3a: Scorp: set swappiness to 5  << what does this do?
[06:09] <dexikiix> eddiestone, are you on hardy?
[06:09] <itai-michaelson> debasys, pcmanfm is also in the repos , you can apt-get
[06:09] <eddiestone> yea
[06:10] <dexikiix> logout
[06:10] <dexikiix> options on the bottom left
[06:10] <dexikiix> select session
[06:10] <dexikiix> and you can pick there
[06:10] <FloodBot1> dexikiix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <eddiestone> no.
[06:10] <junkDawgie> i used to have a gf that had swappiness set to 500
[06:10] <nickrud> eddiestone sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[06:10] <eddiestone> that's it, thanks
[06:10] <dexikiix> eddiestone: ok i fail
[06:10] <dexikiix> :p
[06:10] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: ubuntu tends to depend on ram much more than hard drive but doesnt fully neglect hard drive which keeps things speedy both wen ur full of ram and almost depleted of it
[06:11] <debasys> itai-michaelson: oh sure i have to now, as i know now they paid you ;)
[06:11] <eddiestone> no problem
[06:11] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: wen u set swappiness to 5
[06:11] <Scorp> s3a: How do you get to know what effect does it have ?? Because even while running a HD movie, the RAM remains unused.. So is dat needed ??
[06:11] <sajuuk> does anyone know an equivalent of Skype for hardy and is compatible with actual skype users
[06:11] <itai-michaelson> debasys, i get 5$ for every download
[06:11] <Scorp> joejoecircusboy: How do you get to know what effect does it have ?? Because even while running a HD movie, the RAM remains unused.. So is dat needed ??
[06:11] <nickrud> sajuuk skype?
[06:12] <Wavesonics> will cron jobs be run even when a user is not logged in?
[06:12] <bobertdos> sajuuk: Skype is available in the multiverse, you know.
[06:12] <joejoecircusboy> s3a/Scorp: I get the idea behind 'swappiness', just wonder what the value 5 did specifically (say versus 0 or 99)
[06:12] <sajuuk> it is?
[06:12] <junkDawgie> no idea sajuuk..... skype is the only program that i think uses that protocal
[06:12] <nickrud> sajuuk no, you can get it from medibuntu
[06:12] <aechols> is there any utils to monitor a brother laser toner level?
[06:12] <Ontolog> Is it possible to have Gnome Terminal display tabs as two spaces instead of 4?
[06:12] <WhoNeedszzz> Ok this is just weird. If the window isn't the active window, the scrolling problem goes away. Why is this happening?
[06:12] <nickrud> !medibuntu | sajuuk
[06:12] <Scorp> joejoecircusboy: The lower the number, the lesser dependence on SWAP and vice versa...
[06:12] <debasys> itai-michaelson: wah! then make a affiate also ;)
[06:12] <s3a> Scorp: i know the effect bcuz ive done it lol i cant rely say more than that and 0 suks wen ur almost out of ram cuz it tries not to use hard drive
[06:13] <pikeshouse88> i never would have thought ubuntu would be slow with 384 megs of ram
[06:13] <sajuuk> thx guys
[06:13] <nickrud> pikeshouse88 yeah, it needs more than 512 for snappiness
[06:13] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: I'd just like to point out that I'm running with 8192 MB of RAM right now!  :D
[06:13] <itai-michaelson> sajuuk, you can also go here : http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[06:13] <debasys> itai-michaelson: guess if i by any change had removed Windows Explorer, will i be using internet, chatting etc now?!
[06:13] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: cuz 0 tends to to avoid hard drive alot which is annoying wen ur almost depleted so 5 just uses it but very little but not too litle so if ur ram is almost done u still have speedy responsive systewm
[06:13] <debasys> i am feeling lucky for using linuc
[06:13] <junkDawgie> thats where i got it. itai
[06:13] <debasys> luinux
[06:14] <Scorp> joejoecircusboy: Guess u should try a negative number for swappiness !! :D
[06:14] <pikeshouse88> would xubuntu be snappy with 384?
[06:14] <debasys> leenux
[06:14] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: depleted of ram that is
[06:14] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: Gotcha, thx
[06:14] <aechols> anyone?
[06:14] <s3a> Scorp: joejoecircusboy: how much ram do u both have?
[06:14] <pikeshouse88> or decent with 384? xfce
[06:14] <wbmj> pikehouse88: yes
[06:14] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: 8 GB
[06:14] <Scorp> s3a: I have 3 gb RAM and a 1 GB Graphic Card...
[06:14] <pikeshouse88> decent or snappy
[06:14] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: lol then u shouldnt even have a swap file
[06:14] <junkDawgie> not that i'm aware of, aechols
[06:15] <aechols> thx, i couldnt find any
[06:15] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: I thought the kernel got 'cranky' without a swap file (or so I read anyway)
[06:15] <s3a> Scorp: 32 or 64 bit?
[06:15] <Scorp> 32
[06:15] <s3a> Scorp: stick to ram only
[06:15] <pikeshouse88> wbmj: would you say decent or fast
[06:15] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: well in my case ram only is much faster
[06:15] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: wen im on 32 bit
[06:16] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: on 64 i havent tested cuz i only have 1 gb atm
[06:16] <wbmj> pikehouse88: I found it to be decent with heavy apps and fast with others
[06:16] <Scorp> s3a: yeah... thanks..!!
[06:16] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: I'm on 64bit (obviously) w/ 512 MB swap (0 bytes used - default swapiness)
[06:16] <pikeshouse88> with 384 being a weird number and all, is my optimal swap size 512, 768, or 1 gig?
[06:16] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: ur the one with 8 gb ram?
[06:16] <s3a> Scorp: np
[06:17] <wbmj> pikehouse88:768
[06:17] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: ya, both machines are 8 GB
[06:17] <Scorp> joejoecircusboy: whats the rest of ur config ?? and what do u use the 8 gb for ???
[06:17] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: ok so if u rely rely want to use swap then set swappiness to 5 but id go without swap if u want to check for urself put the swappiness to 5 and use gparted to unmount and mount swap and see wats better for urself
[06:18] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp: Intel P35, Core 2 Duo E8500, Geforce 8800, 8 GB... 24" LCD (1920x1200), etc etc
[06:18] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp: What do I do with 8 GB? Go on IRC :P
[06:18] <hadronzoo_> Hello, I'm unable to ping anything on a particular interface.  I think it's an iptables problem.  How can I disable iptables?
[06:19] <Scorp> joejoecircusboy: haha.. thats really hardware intensive.. :P shud use a swap for all the Log files maybe... lol
[06:19] <Rat409> hadronzoo_: sudo iptables --flush
[06:19] <hadronzoo_> Rat409: thanks, I'll try that
[06:19] <|anonymous|> hi i missing utf-8
[06:19] <pikeshouse88> joejoecircusboy: id have vista with that. that would have vista very happy
[06:20] <dexikiix> ok this is KILLING me
[06:20] <dexikiix> dexi@SUNUP-LINUX:~/Documents/carrier-2.4.3$ ./configure
[06:20] <dexikiix> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:20] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp: hehe... (In all seriousness..   Could it be anything else?  It was working previously
[06:21] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: Not really intested in Vista... I haven't even tried it yet (still use XP for gaming)
[06:22] <bullgard4> [GNOME] The DEB program package is installed. In an xterm I run the command nm-applet. This command does not finish, and no nm-applet appears on the upper panel. How to troubleshoot?
[06:22] <|anonymous|> guys i missing utf what pack i do need
[06:22] <pikeshouse88> so swap space is always supposed to be double the size of the ram right
[06:22] <|anonymous|> ?
[06:22] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: where's the best place to adjust swappiness? sysctl.conf?
[06:22] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: not really... well, it depends (that would make my swap file 16 GB!)
[06:23] <jorge_> hi!?
[06:23] <jorge_> anybody's here?
[06:23] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88:  I wouldn't go much more than 1x RAM actually (and even then, only so you can suspend)
[06:23] <pikeshouse88> if i had 256 megs of ram, swap would be 512, if 512 ram, swap 1GB, right?
[06:23] <itai-michaelson> |anonymous|, what do you mean?
[06:24] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: seriously, if you were running with 512 of used swap on a 256 MB system, you wouldn't be getting much done ;)
[06:24] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: ok do sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf then add vm.swappiness=5 on last line and save
[06:24] <pikeshouse88> so ideal swap space for 384MB ram would be......
[06:24] <debasys> itai-michaelson: i installed PCMan, it is fast , but how do i see my desktop?
[06:24] <joejoecircusboy> s3a: thanks man
[06:24] <|anonymous|> i traying to install smoting but i need utf-8
[06:25] <Rat409> pikeshouse88: usually 2.5 x ram
[06:25] <debasys> itai-michaelson: it does not show icons that were on the desktop, i have to browse to the Desktop folder to see them
[06:25] <s3a> joejoecircusboy: np
[06:25] <Detra> hi ... When I try logging on amsn from this computer, it doesn't work ... When I try from my other machine there's no problem ... Here it just keeps connecting and never connects ... Anyone know why that is ?
[06:25] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: I would say 512 at most
[06:25] <pikeshouse88> im getting conflicting answers here
[06:25] <itai-michaelson> debasys, are you using it as a desktop manager
[06:25] <debasys> itai-michaelson: got it, i should have checked preferences before asking
[06:25] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: yeah, because there is no 'correct' answer
[06:26] <RadiCal> pikeshouse88: usually people say if its under 1gb, double the amount of ram you have to get your swap
[06:26] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: I can't imagine you ever saying to yourself 'wow, I'm using a 1000 MB of swap right now. Boy am I glad I created the extra swap space'
[06:26] <RadiCal> pikehouse88, but people always deviate from that so its your discretion. you dont want too much but you need enough so that applications remain somewhat fast.
[06:26] <zod21> joejoecircusboy how does excess swap memory help
[06:27] <joejoecircusboy> pikeshouse88: because in practice, if you're using 1000 MB of swap, your system has ground to a halt
[06:27] <joejoecircusboy> zod21: it doesn't, that's my point
[06:27] <h3llm17> i use a 1 gig flash drive as my swap
[06:27] <zod21> oh haha
[06:27] <Miesco_> Can `cp` give you any indication of its progress?
[06:27] <Rat409> pikeshouse88:  my old desktop has 320mb ram w/3gb swap onlu used during big compiles,700mhz celeron
[06:27] <RadiCal> lol.
[06:27] <zod21> i was asking trying my best not to sound like a smart a$$
[06:27] <zod21> haha
[06:27] <Detra> anyone have an idea ?
[06:28] <joejoecircusboy> Miesco_: why would you want cp to give *me* progress?
[06:28] <Miesco_> joejoecircusboy: fuck you
[06:29] <joejoecircusboy> lol
[06:29] <joejoecircusboy> ..language Nazis
[06:29] <Detra> Why is that everytime I'm in here I have to wait 30min before anyone starts concidering my question ?
[06:29] <Kohlrak> ~language | Miesco_
[06:30] <Flynsarmy> I'm not getting any sound in flash player (sounds working in everything else). Ideas?
[06:30] <Kohlrak> !language | Miesco_
[06:30] <Flannel> Detra: Apparently you log in and ask 30 minutes before the people who know the answers to your questions
[06:30] <Rat409> Detra: firewall rules,or port forwarding,router,etc. or amsn bad config
[06:30] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy: OSS?
[06:30] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, Firefox - both media player and the shockwave player extensions. Ubuntu hardy
[06:30] <Scorp> Detra: You could try reinstalling with apt-get
[06:30] <Detra> Rat409, it worked up until yesterday ...
[06:31] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy, i mean are you using ALSA or OSS?
[06:31] <Detra> Scorp, I did ...
[06:31] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, Whatever's default in hardy i suppose
[06:31] <itai-michaelson> Detra, do you get any errors if you run from terminal?
[06:31] <WhoNeedszzz> So about my scrolling problem. If the object i'm trying to scroll doesn't have the focus, it scrolls fine, but if I give it focus, it has the lag. I'm really lost here
[06:31] <legend2440> Detra     maybe try channel     #amsn
[06:31] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy, but video plays fine?
[06:31] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, yes
[06:31] <Detra> legend2440, thx
[06:32] <Scorp> Detra, did u change anything apart from that ?? wireless ports or firewall settings
[06:32] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, Although often takes up very large amounts of CPU
[06:32] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy, I actually had a problem like that earlier, but with a different program. Did you try rebooting?
[06:32] <junkDawgie> maybe amsn might need to be updated, Detra?..... IM servers change protocols often
[06:32] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, Nah, not yet working atm. will try that later. was just wondering if it was a common thing
[06:33] <koops> hi all, i got one litle question... Is it possible to delete ubuntu icon next to the menu bar?
[06:33] <h3llm17> Flynsarmy: i have the same problem
[06:33] <debasys> anyone knows how to switch tabs between PCMan File Manager??
[06:33] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy: might be.
[06:33] <Kohlrak> h3llm17, try rebooting.
[06:33] <debasys> can i customize that?
[06:33] <bullgard4> [GNOME] The DEB program package is installed. In an xterm I run the command nm-applet. This command does not finish, and no nm-applet appears on the upper panel. How to troubleshoot?
[06:33] <moreau> anyone know if the torrent program 'transmission' needs any ports forwarded through my router?
[06:33] <Flynsarmy> Flash player has had so many problems in the last few months. It's the only real annoying thing on ubuntu besides not being able to play some wmv's
[06:34] <moreau> yeah flash is always crashing in opera and firefox alike
[06:34] <h3llm17> is flash 10 supposed to be any good?
[06:34] <junkDawgie> i would bet it does.... BT usually requires a port forward
[06:34] <Dexikiix> gah this is so annoying
[06:34] <Dexikiix> why doesn't ./configure work!?
[06:34] <Kohlrak> Flynsarmy: Actually, i've noticed it improve the last few months. At least it works in 64.
[06:35] <titan> I seem to always have problems with flash and firefox
[06:35] <Flynsarmy> Kohlrak, It never used to use up such huge amounts of CPU as it does now. and it crashes firefox quite often
[06:35] <Dexikiix> titan :(
[06:35] <joejoecircusboy> Kohlrak: Really? It refuses to play video about half the time for me, and I have to restart the browser (64bit Firefox)
[06:35] <junkDawgie> flash is evil,, titan
[06:35] <|anonymous|> Could not open the file /home/anonymous/Desktop/?oad/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.
[06:35] <dmi3on-1> how do i open file from terminal when i what to edit ?
[06:35] <titan> junkDawgie: for sure
[06:35] <|anonymous|> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[06:35] <|anonymous|> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[06:36] <|anonymous|> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[06:36] <Kohlrak> Well, that's because flash is like java. It runs in a VM... anyway... It used to not run in gutsy 64.
[06:36] <joejoecircusboy> Flynsarmy: That's one nice thing about 64bit Firefox, while flash in nspluginwrapper doesn't work half the time, at least it doesn't take the browser down :D
[06:36] <Rat409>  Dexikiix some apps you just make make install,some req ./autogen.sh or cmake . depends on app. read the readme/install files
[06:36] <Dexikiix> Rat409: install file said "type ./configure"
[06:36] <sleepster> k
[06:36] <Dexikiix> im sure i was in the right dir
[06:36] <junkDawgie> every six months they have a security update with Flash... scares me
[06:36] <dmi3on-1> what is command to open text file from a terminal window ?
[06:37] <Kohlrak> Believe it or not, i really don't have a problem with flash on ubuntu. Only when i am using OSS and/or ran a bunch of videos at once
[06:37] <Scorp> dmi3on-1, gedit
[06:37] <dmi3on-1> Scorp, thx my memory is not good
[06:37] <joejoecircusboy> BTW, did you guys know that Flash has it's own set of tracking cookies that aren't flushed when the browser clears it's files?
[06:37] <hadronzoo_> Hello, can someone help me with a networking issue?  eth0 gets a dhcp ip address, but I can't ping anything but the ip address assigned to the interface (Operation not permitted).  I flushed iptables.
[06:37] <joejoecircusboy> *its
[06:37] <WhoNeedszzz> Does anyone know how to fix the scrolling problem in firefox?
[06:37] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie: Probably because with proprietary companies, updated security means updated anti-open sorce stuff or anti-piracy stff
[06:38] <Kohlrak> What scrolling problem in firefox?
[06:38] <Scorp> dmi3on-1, you should probably keep a text file on ur desktop with all commands u need most..
[06:38] <Scorp> dmi3on-1, you could also type history and get the list of the last 500 commands u've used in the terminal
[06:39] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: where is the dhcp server running?
[06:39] <junkDawgie> very true, Kohlrak.... claim security update and slip you some evil code
[06:39] <Kohlrak> Hadronzoo_, maybe it's the router or something? never saw it before
[06:39] <junkDawgie> i'm sure its done... they have to get paid
[06:39] <Radiant> I have a question. I am using awn (a dock program) and do not want any menus. is it safe to unistall gnome-panel, or is there a hack to get no panels ?
[06:39] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie, that's the rule of windows. Plus they add "features."
[06:39] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I'm running a DHCP server for eth1, and on eth0, the dhcp server is on an airpot express basestation
[06:39] <Shujah> Radiant, I'm also using awn, you can safely remove bottom panel
[06:39] <Scorp> Radiant: dont uninstall it, just remove the panels...
[06:40] <SitUbuntuSit>  Radiant, you can remove the panel
[06:40] <junkDawgie> big reason i fdisk'd WinXP, Kohl
[06:40] <Kohlrak> A real vulnerability in windows is MessageBoxW... There's a trick with it that can BSOD, and ms knew about it since.... I think 95... Still not fixed...
[06:40] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: so the Ubuntu system is both a dhcp server (eth1), and a dhcp client (eth0) ?
[06:40] <Darunia> Newbie question - I am yet to install ubuntu on harddisk, I have 10-15 gb unpartitioned space on my harddisk, will ubuntu automatically partition the space and will 10-15gb be enough for desktop install ??
[06:41] <Kohlrak> Darunia: yes
[06:41] <Darunia> thanx
[06:41] <thetitan> Darunia: Yes, in the alternate CD i know for sure you can
[06:41] <wakidi> www.google.com
[06:41] <Flannel> Darunia: 10-15 is plenty, you'll have a few choices for what to do, just make sure you either tell it to use unpartitioned space, or do it manually.
[06:41] <DrRealHouse> Radiant, it is possible, have a look on Google for the HowTo:  But easy way, put you panel at the bottom, transparent and autohide.  It won't show up and also you won't loose some features from the gnome-panel (as the Notif area)
[06:41] <thetitan> Darunia: also plenty of disk space
[06:41] <Shujah> Darunia, 15 GB is good enough for Ubuntu Desktop
[06:41] <Kohlrak> Darunia: That's even enough for Windows, and ubuntu requires alot less than windows.
[06:41] <pikeshouse88> so 784 or 1gig?
[06:41] <bullgard4> [GNOME] How to install the 'window selector' program?
[06:41] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: yes, I limited the dhcp server to eth1 (which appears to be working correctly).  The address given to eth0 is not from the local server
[06:42] <jigp> hello what is good application to use for web developer like me?(free opensource) is aptana good?
[06:42] <Rat409> bullgard4: right-click panel?
[06:42] <Shujah> bullgard4, as far as I know window selector is a desklet and can be add via 'add to panel'
[06:42] <Darunia> nice
[06:42] <thetitan> igp:  i like quanta for web development
[06:42] <thetitan> jigp:  i like quanta for web development
[06:43] <Kohlrak> thetitan: i'm curious, does that work with php files as well? i was thinking about getting something like that too, but wanted to get something that'll help me manage a bunch of php files.
[06:43] <junkDawgie> holy toledo ... there is 1180 nicks heree
[06:43] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: can you do a 'netstat -rn', a 'ifconfig -a' and a 'ethtool eth0' and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:43] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie: and most of them are probably afk
[06:43] <junkDawgie> PARTY
[06:43] <Shujah> 1181 but whose counting :P
[06:44] <Rat409> jigp: also bluefish scribus are popular,i'm no coder tho
[06:44] <junkDawgie> we should have our own concert
[06:44] <thetitan> kohlrak: Yeah im a web developer and i use PHP and MySql mostly and its a pretty good IDE...  I have also used Zend(Not Open Source) and that is good and Eclipse for PHP is great, but its slow as a mother
[06:44] <jigp> thetitan Rat409 : how to run the code?in winblows i use wamp and xamp..what about in ubuntu?thanks
[06:44] <Flannel> !lamp | jigp
[06:44] <joejoecircusboy> PHP+MySQL is an IDE?
[06:44] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I would have to type it.  Can you tell me what to look for?
[06:45] <Scorp> #kde
[06:45] <thetitan> jigp: a LAMP server
[06:45] <joejoecircusboy> jigp: jedit is supposedly good too (I use emacs myself)
[06:45] <Kohlrak> thetitan: i don't mean for coding. I mean more along the lines of a manger like i've seen in popular html editors like frontpage.. Though, truth be told, until soon i've only ever used notepad.exe (windows) and gedit for web pages XD
[06:45] <thetitan> kohlrak: yeah, its a full IDE for managing progects, all of them
[06:46] <thetitan> jigp: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Install_a_LAMP_server_on_a_Desktop
[06:46] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: hmmm
[06:46] <Kohlrak> cool
[06:46] <jigp> thetitan joejoecircusboy Flannel : i already installed lamp. but how to know if the lamp is running?i tried by typing: http://localhost but no result
[06:46] <Kohlrak> ill have to remember to install that.
[06:46] <Flannel> jigp: localhost should work.  you get an error?
[06:46] <thetitan> jigp: try the command "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[06:46] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: do you have a usb key you can copy the output to?
[06:46] <tyler_1> looking for a vmware alternative with gui suggestions please?
[06:46] <thetitan> jigp: try the command start i meant
[06:47] <thetitan> jigp: try the command "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[06:47] <DrRealHouse> tyler_1: virtualbox is good.
[06:47] <Flynsarmy> tyler_1, VirtualBox. it's free
[06:47] <Rat409> tyler_1: virtualbox?
[06:47] <tyler_1> ty
[06:47] <tyler_1> ty
[06:47] <tyler_1> ty
[06:47] <FloodBot1> tyler_1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <Shujah> holy cow a flooder :|
[06:47] <junkDawgie> i have heard good things about VB... haven't used it yet myself
[06:47] <Flynsarmy> tyler_1, Use the version from their website rather than the one from apt though, the one from apt is useless
[06:47] <Scorp> how do we change rooms here ??
[06:48] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: shoot, no I don't.  I just installed this machine and managed to screw it up.  Should I just reinstall?
[06:48] <Flannel> Scorp: depends on your client, but /join #channel is a safe bet
[06:48] <moreau>  /j #roomname
[06:48] <tyler_1> Flynsarmy: beautiful advice ty :)
[06:48] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie: you'll hear good things about programming languages by it's users. From me, you'll hear good things about assembly. XD
[06:48] <Scorp> Flannel: ohh ya... was lookin for that... thanks
[06:48] <joejoecircusboy> junkDawgie: Ya, I'm waiting for the OSS version to include USB support
[06:48] <Scorp> join /KDE
[06:48] <DrRealHouse> I installed XP and Vista and DreamLinux in VirtualBox and they are all running quite well.
[06:48] <junkDawgie> push, move and all that,, Kohl
[06:48] <joejoecircusboy> junkDawgie: Without USB it's kinda pointless... And if I go with the closed source free version, then I just have a shittier version of the free vmware products
[06:49] <Rat409> Scorp: like /join #kde or ##linux etc.
[06:49] <junkDawgie> getting hardware to work in a virtual machine is what they all fight..... and VMWare did it best/firstest
[06:49] <DrRealHouse> joejoecircusboy: Why do you need the USB in a virtualized OS?
[06:49] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: try pinging your router, then run 'arp -a' and print the output
[06:50] <Kohlrak> wow, i install quanta and 2 new programs appear.
[06:50] <bullgard4> Rat409, Shujah: Thank you very much for your help.
[06:50] <joejoecircusboy> (01:49:54 AM) DrRealHouse: joejoecircusboy: Why do you need the USB in a virtualized OS? << watcom tablet, bluetooth, etc
[06:50] <junkDawgie> twins, Kohl?
[06:50] <thetitan> Kohlrak: yeah... KDE apps
[06:51] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie: nah, helpers.
[06:51] <junkDawgie> we should write a song about "dependancies"
[06:51] <Kohlrak> ROFLMAO
[06:51] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how ot install wxwidgets on ubuntu to get code::blocks compiling WITHOUT modifying compiler/linker options? ive done it once before but forgotten waht the packages are
[06:52] <DrRealHouse> joejoecircusboy: I see, you won't have any choice but Vmware or closed free Virtualbox then.  But that is not a big deal, if you really need it.
[06:52] <moreau> could someone suggest to me another program for opening .mkv's? vlc gets an error, and totem movie player plays it extremelyslowly, and only plays it after i move the seek bar around a bi
[06:52] <Kohlrak> junkDawgie: maybe add how the likelyhood of them disappearing with a purged app is... or does it check the dependencies for ones that'll become unused after it's gone?
[06:52] <joejoecircusboy> DrRealHouse: Ya, but I would rather use OSS VB... but alas, no USB support (yet)... maybe in the next major release
[06:52] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: "? (<IP_ADDRESS>) at <mac> [ether] on eth1"
[06:52] <Grobvok> What's wrong with the open source'd Vbox?
[06:53] <Rat409> moreau: mplayer,xine maybe
[06:53] <junkDawgie> you have a grip on the problem, Kohl
[06:53] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: "? (<IP_ADDRESS>) at <mac> [ether] on eth0"
[06:53] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: You're sure <IP_ADDRESS> is the correct IP for the router? (Also, what IP is assigned to eth0) ?
[06:53] <mmm4m5m> hi, I need little help. Just upgraded linux from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> and I got err message: "starting virtualbox kernel driver... modprobe vboxdrv failed... please use dmesg to find out why...". My question is: Why this msg is shown only during boot process. I searched all log files and I can't find it. I run 'dmesg' and nothing there (http://pastebin.ca/1094475)
[06:53] <debasys> what is this 'pulseaudio' process displaying as running and taking 5.8 of my memory in System Manager!?
[06:53] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Did you strip the MAC address?
[06:53] <debasys> i did not install that!!
[06:53] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: yes
[06:54] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: ah, cool... so arp is working (nevermind previous questions)
[06:54] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: my router on eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:54] <Flynsarmy> !PulseAudio | debasys
[06:54] <Kohlrak> maybe that's an idea for a new program to be released: "Needless library remover"
[06:54] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: cool, progress :)
[06:54] <dmi3on> i cant load vista or ubuntu, i had vista and i install ubuntu. i get a problem grub wasnt loading so try to fix is fallowing this first 5 steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows now i can load vista or ubuntu
[06:54] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: sorry, my router on eth0 rather
[06:54] <dmi3on> i fix menu.lst
[06:55] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: does your router have a web interface? If so, can you try telnetting to it "telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80"
[06:55] <brent113> Hey guys, how can I reduce the file fragmentation on my file system?
[06:55] <dmi3on> but still get error 25
[06:55] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: thanks, i am gonna need that link later. You found it before i went for it.
[06:55] <Flynsarmy> dmi3on, This is the best site ive found for dual or tripple booting with ubuntu/xp/vista http://www.howtoforge.com/dual_boot_windows_xp_vista_ubuntu_feisty
[06:55] <joejoecircusboy> brent113: Copy your files to a new file system
[06:55] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m:  The driver is not loaded automatically in the latest version of Ubuntu, don't know why.  You have to "sudo modprobe vboxdrv" first.
[06:55] <brent113> joejoecircusboy, Ok without doing that, since it's a 2tb filesystem
[06:55] <sajuuk> I thought linux doesnt allow for file fragmentation
[06:55] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: it's an airport extreme.  I can't telnet but I may be able to it another way
[06:55] <joejoecircusboy> brent113: Unfortunately, that's your only option, AFAIK
[06:56] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m: or add vboxdrv to the /etc/modules file...
[06:56] <junkDawgie> you need to install SunOS too, Flyn
[06:56] <Kohlrak> sajuuk: not linux, the file system... XD
[06:56] <mmm4m5m> DrRealHouse: ok, thank you, will try. But why it is not in log files?
[06:56] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: The idea is to try to establish a TCP connection between your laptop and the router
[06:56] <RageMachine> Hi, i'd like to remove both panels (gnome-panel), is there a way to do this?
[06:56] <sajuuk> still, doesnt linux manage the file systems in its own special way compared to how windows does it?
[06:57] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I can't ping from the router side (using another machine).  I also can't ssh
[06:57] <dmi3on> can any one help me fix problem with grub ?
[06:57] <Kohlrak> sajuuk: Yea. it doesn't view each storage device as a letter, therefor allowing plenty more devices.
[06:57] <dmi3on> pls i get error 25
[06:57] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: what IP is assigned to eth0?
[06:57] <debasys> Flynsarmy: as the site says, its a sound server, it is like an interface between the hardware and the application making sound, so if a remove it will my audio will be gone too!?
[06:57] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m: Sorry, just re-read you message, and your vboxdrv is not found.  Did you installed it?  it is a different package.
[06:57] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:57] <Kohlrak> plus, windows doesn't work on ext3 AFAIK
[06:58] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m: look for "vbox" in synaptic
[06:58] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: netmask is /24 or shorter?
[06:58] <dmi3on> Flynsarmy, the link you give me i can find think that relates to my problem :(
[06:58] <Flynsarmy> debasys, I'm not sure, i dont know much at all about PulseAudio. What i do know though is that it causes problems for just about everyone
[06:58] <RageMachine> Hi, i'd like to remove both panels (gnome-panel), is there a way to do this?
[06:58] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: it's really odd, because I can't ping anything on either interface.  Netmask /24 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[06:58] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m:  In my case, (amd64) the binary was not available until recently so I had to compile it from the package source.
[06:58] <Grobvok> mmm4m5m: You might need to update the module for your new kernel.
[06:58] <Oldrie^Jimmy> Him i need help finding my modem driver for ubuntu. Please someone.
[06:58] <junkDawgie> i always marvel when i look at a 'nix file system with a bootable CD or sumpin..... thoroughly confusing
[06:58] <Kohlrak> RageMachine: right click, just becareful doing that though
[06:58] <debasys> Flynsarmy: i think it should not take away sound from system as it says 'it allows to do advanced operations '
[06:59] <junkDawgie> not what you see in a file manager
[06:59] <crdlb> RageMachine: that's not a particularly good idea as some things rely on the panel (notably the alt+f2 run dialog)
[06:59] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: can you run 'tcpdump -n -i eth0' on the laptop, and try initiating traffic from the router side
[06:59] <moreau> I just installed mplayer, and whenever i use the cmd line to open a file, it tells me 'no such file or directory' even if i type 'mplayer ' and then drag the file into terminal so it copies the right path
[06:59] <crdlb> RageMachine: if you really want to do it, run: "gnome-session-remove gnome-panel"
[06:59] <DrRealHouse> mm4m5m: Make sure that you have the file vboxdrv.ko in your module (run "locate vboxdrv.ko")
[07:00] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Also, what IP is assigned to eth1?
[07:00] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: what is it?
[07:00] <Oldrie^Jimmy> I need help to find 56KV.92 modem drivers... It's on a Dell Latitude 120L
[07:00] <dmi3on> can some one help me to set up grub it doesnt load vista or ubuntu error 25
[07:00] <mmm4m5m> DrRealHouse: Thank you, will fix vbox. One more thing: when I switch to first terminal (Alt+Ctrl+F1) I see only last 2 screens, I can page up/down only last 2 screens with boot msgs. Can I do something to be sure that all boot msgs are logged?   Globvok: thank you too.
[07:00] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I'm trying to initiate tcp (ssh) from the router side to the problem box, and I'm seeing the attempts on the problem box
[07:00] <Rat409> dmi3on: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html explains error-codes but no soloution
[07:01] <moreau> is this the correct codec for .mkv?  copied from terminal after running 'mplayer <file.mkv>'  "[mkv] Track ID 1: video (V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC) "Video", -vid 0"
[07:01] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:01] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: hm... i don't know... It might work with NDIS, but i'm not sure. my as well try it.
[07:01] <dmi3on> Rat409, why do i need is its no solutions
[07:01] <dmi3on> ?
[07:01] <smokewon> can someone help me its very urgent, everytime i do a fresh install of Ubuntu Grub gives me error 17 and 18 sometimes, this is very worrying as i have tried to install windows on a fresh hd format and ntloader does not get detected either, this happend last night when i was trying to install ubuntu, i really need help urgently as i need my computer for studys etc, and at the moment i cant install any OS at all!!!
[07:01] <smokewon> very urgent, please help
[07:02] <Rat409> because its probly errors in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:02] <RageMachine> crdlb: exactly, i dont really want to completely remove it, just not have it visible ever. lol.
[07:02] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: solutions come from knowing what's wrong. If you know what's wrong, you can figure a solution on your own.
[07:02] <DrRealHouse> mmm4m5m:  Don't know actually, everything from dmesg should be in the /var/log/kernel and /var/log/message.
[07:02] <Oldrie^Jimmy> Kohlrak: Were can I get it?
[07:02] <smokewon> no because ntloader does not load for windows either, this is a new HD bought last week....
[07:02] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: can you do this "iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT && iptables -F"
[07:02] <RageMachine> Kohlrak; fyi that doesnt work, gnome-panel requires 1 panel always present
[07:02] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: sudo apt-get install ndis-wrapper?
[07:02] <crdlb> RageMachine: you could set it to autohide?
[07:02] <Grobvok> smokewon: You should be able to install Ubuntu or Windows if you format the whole drive at installation.
[07:02] <dmi3on> Kohlrak, i am very new to ubuntu and programming it doesnt help me
[07:02] <mmm4m5m> DrRealHouse: ok, will read more then. Thank you, thanks to all.
[07:02] <smokewon> Grobvok not the case, i have been trying ALL day
[07:03] <RageMachine> crdlb: its still visible sadly.
[07:03] <Oldrie^Jimmy> Kohlrak" I dont have internet on my Ubuntu... thats why i need this modem driver
[07:03] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: well, if we know the error name with the number, we might be able to help better
[07:03] <dmi3on> i am not filling happy now when i am asking for help for two hours
[07:03] <junkDawgie> you need to wipe the boot sector of the drive , smokewon
[07:03] <smokewon> and yes i did format the whole drive each time ive tried
[07:03] <dmi3on> can some one help me to set up grub it doesnt load vista or ubuntu error 25
[07:03] <smokewon> JunkDawgie how do i go about that via the Live CD of ubuntu?
[07:03] <dmi3on> error 25
[07:03] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: if you're on windows, download it to windows and access it from within ubuntu.
[07:03] <RageMachine> crdlb: do you know exactly what is affected by deleting gnomepanel?
[07:03] <junkDawgie> you don't
[07:03] <Dexikiix> hey where do i get the -dev package for GLib?
[07:03] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: that worked!
[07:03] <dmi3on> when grub is loads i select ubuntu i get error 25
[07:04] <DrRealHouse> smokevon: Seems like a fried HD...  last time I had this problem, the hardisk died a little time after that.
[07:04] <crdlb> Dexikiix: if you're trying to build carrier: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin
[07:04] <bobertdos> dmi3on: Have you already looked at the wiki entries?
[07:04] <Omar87> I'm having the following problem with gtk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35007/
[07:04] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I can ping the router
[07:04] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Damn, I thought you had said you flushed the rules already :)
[07:04] <junkDawgie> there are tools made by the drive manuf for that and some third party tools too
[07:04] <moreau> anyone know how to fix the problem of some .mkv's not playing in totem movie player, or VLC
[07:04] <Oldrie^Jimmy> Kohlrak: Yes I'm on windows but to lazy to look for the package, Would packages.ubuntu.com have it?
[07:04] <Dexikiix> crdlb: thanks
[07:04] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I did "iptables --flush"
[07:04] <smokewon> junkDawgie so my HD is pretty much stuffed in other words...
[07:04] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: iptables -L showed no rules
[07:04] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: Maybe I didn't flush them correctly
[07:04] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: Maybe.. never had to do this before
[07:04] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Might have been set to default drop (the -P options changed it to default accept)
[07:04] <junkDawgie> you have to write 0's on the first 6? sectors
[07:04] <Dexikiix> crdlb: so this will just update pidgin, right?
[07:04] <crdlb> RageMachine: I guess alt+f2 is the only thing not directly connected with the standard panel functions
[07:05] <Oldrie^Jimmy> Kohlrak: This is a Phone Modem I'm doing this for. v.v
[07:05] <junkDawgie> that is not done in a format operation
[07:05] <TeslaTony> dmi3on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117271&highlight=grub+error+25
[07:05] <Grobvok> smokewon: If you need your PC fast, use LiveCD+USB flash combo.
[07:05] <crdlb> Dexikiix: build-dep will install everything needed to build pidgin, which should be the same for carrier since it's just a fork
[07:05] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I see.  Thank you so much for your help.  How do I save these rules?
[07:05] <Dexikiix> ooh
[07:05] <Dexikiix> thanks ok i get it
[07:05] <TeslaTony> dmi3on: See if that helps any
[07:05] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: I'm not real clear on how Ubuntu sets up its iptables ruleset... but you probably just need to stop it from loading it completely
[07:05] <smokewon> junkDawgie i have no idea how to do this, im not a programmer, i need this PC working tonight, im at uni, i dont have time for this! all i wanted was to install Ubuntu and i end up with a fried HD!??
[07:05] <Omar87> When I try to install python-gtk it says there are not installation candidate, how so I deal with that?
[07:05] <Kohlrak> Oldrie^Jimmy: I figured as much. NDIS might still be able to help though. I only ever used ethernet and wireless drivers, so outside of ndis, i don't know what to tell you
[07:05] <Omar87> no*
[07:05] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: (I only use iptables on Red Hat, and it's quite a bit different)
[07:06] <dmi3on> Kohlrak, after i installed ubuntu i reabot and vista was starting right the way with out grub, so some one give me this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows i fallow first 5 steps and now vista doesnt load and ubuntu too and i get error 25
[07:06] <junkDawgie> that hard drive is not gonna work tonight
[07:06] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Maybe someone else can help you make it permanent?
[07:06] <smokewon> Grobvok sorry what is a LiveCD+USB flash combo??
[07:06] <crdlb> Omar87: python-gtk2
[07:06] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I see.  OK, I can look online.  Thank you so much for your help!
[07:06] <smokewon> FUICKM
[07:06] <smokewon> ALS JKF A;JS JK;L
[07:06] <smokewon> ';
[07:06] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: no problem
[07:06] <FloodBot1> smokewon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <jhb1608> How do i extract the RAR file in Ubuntu?
[07:07] <junkDawgie> okay.... lets start over.... smokewon.... does any O
[07:07] <Flynsarmy> jhb1608, unrar <file>
[07:07] <jhb1608> aha
[07:07] <junkDawgie> OS get booted?
[07:07] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: i always hated messing with grub... Have you tried supergrub yet?
[07:07] <jhb1608> terminal, correct :P?
[07:07] <dmi3on> noo
[07:07] <Flynsarmy> jhb1608, or if youre using the GUI you can just right click and extract. make sure you have rar and unrar programs installed
[07:07] <jhb1608> aha!
[07:07] <jhb1608> that's probably why
[07:07] <DrRealHouse> jhb1608: Make sure that you have unrar install (look in synaptic)
[07:07] <jhb1608> thanks
[07:07] <dmi3on> Kohlrak, how do i do this ?
[07:08] <junkDawgie> there are a couple tools on the XP install disk
[07:08] <junkDawgie> just remembered
[07:08] <jhb1608> let me look
[07:08] <smokewon> ok
[07:08] <smokewon> i have XP, but XP doesnt load
[07:08] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: look at the page where you got the 5 steps. Look at the table of contents and follow the instructions.
[07:08] <junkDawgie> but it was there before?
[07:08] <Omar87> crdlb: Okay, here's the story, yesterday I had a problem with installing a python extension named "Jinja", it needed the python headers.
[07:08] <smokewon> i can install it, but i cant boot from any OS anymore, this is rediculous!
[07:08] <smokewon> yes i have had many OS"s on this HD
[07:08] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: btw: it's iptables-save
[07:08] <junkDawgie> no no, this happened to me once too
[07:08] <jhb1608> aha it is not installed
[07:09] <smokewon> since last week, i had slackware, XP, Ubuntu, zenwalk on this HD
[07:09] <jigp> thetitan Flannel it works :)but how to saved my php files? how to navigate into folder?im not sure where to run my php...
[07:09] <Flynsarmy> Is gparted very reliable at resizing partitions without losing data on those partitions?
[07:09] <bullgard4> [GNOME] The DEB program package is installed. In an xterm I run the command nm-applet. This command does not finish, and no nm-applet appears on the upper panel. How to install this applet?
[07:09] <jhb1608> so I'm installing unrar AND RAR
[07:09] <junkDawgie> a working XP install, that GRUB shattered
[07:09] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: cool, but... you're probably saving some half installed ruleset (we didn't flush everything either with those commands)
[07:09] <smokewon> i reformated with ubuntu live CD, now i cant boot anything, nothing is on this HD at all atm
[07:09] <jigp> thetitan Flannel its <IP_ADDRESS> the localhost
[07:09] <junkDawgie> you boot the XP install disc and use the recovery mode
[07:09] <thetitan> jigp:  /var/www  usually, but you can set up a virtual host to make one in your home forlder, i recommend that
[07:09] <smokewon> its formated, wiped, clean, compleetly
[07:09] <smokewon> ah ok
[07:09] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: hang on a sec
[07:09] <smokewon> recovery mode
[07:10] <smokewon> and it will fix this HD problem?
[07:10] <junkDawgie> i think so
[07:10] <jhb1608> yes
[07:10] <jhb1608> I use it a lot
[07:10] <jhb1608> ;)
[07:10] <bryc1> i wanted to mount my 2nd hard-drive on startup and added this: # /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <bryc1> UUID=afb304b8-a5a6-4a89-9e4c-480e951dbf1a	/media/disk 	ext3 	defaults 	0 0: to my fstab
[07:10] <bullgard4> [GNOME] The DEB program package network-manager-gnome is installed. In an xterm I run the command nm-applet. This command does not finish, and no nm-applet appears on the upper panel. How to install this applet?
[07:10] <jigp> thetitan : you recommend /var/www? but how to navigate there?
[07:10] <Omar87> crdlb: So, I tried to download and compile a tarball named "python2.5-2.5.2" and install it from source.
[07:10] <smokewon> ok tyvm, i need to do this very quickly, i will be back if im unlucky
[07:10] <jhb1608> ok
[07:10] <bryc1> but it doesnt mount and gives me an error that
[07:10] <jigp> thetitan : Places/Home there is no /var/www
[07:10] <jhb1608> I'll be here anyways
[07:10] <junkDawgie> he took off too soon
[07:10] <crdlb> Omar87: did you install it to /usr/local ?
[07:11] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: ok
[07:11] <bryc1> says i cant mount the volume...i am not priviledged
[07:11] <Kohlrak> jigp: don't use home. Places -> Computer -> Filesystem
[07:11] <junkDawgie> he doesn't know the command to execute
[07:11] <thetitan> jigp: its in the root directory
[07:11] <jigp> thetitan Flannel all i can see is the desktop folder documents etc
[07:11] <thetitan> jigp: go to Computer
[07:11] <Omar87> crdlb: Unfortunately, I didn't point it to an exact location..
[07:11] <Grobvok> bryc1: type sudo before the comomand.
[07:11] <junkDawgie> he needs to run the fixmbr command from the XP install disc
[07:12] <maozhang> hi guys
[07:12] <jhb1608> oh damn, I forgot to tell him that too
[07:12] <jhb1608> :(
[07:12] <thetitan> maozhang: hello
[07:12] <jhb1608> sorry if I swear lol.
[07:12] <junkDawgie> jhb.... you have used it too?
[07:12] <jigp> thetitan Kohlrak : i found it thanks :) so everytime im finished with my coded php i will save it to /var/www ?
[07:12] <jhb1608> yes
[07:12] <Kohlrak> jigp: yes
[07:12] <bryc1> i shouldnt do that in an fstab entry
[07:12] <jhb1608> many times before
[07:12] <thetitan> jigp:  yup
[07:12] <Omar87> crdlb: Now, some python-based apps like emesene refuse to work, they need python-gtk, but I already have it.
[07:12] <jhb1608> but I'm sticking with Ubuntu for now
[07:12] <jigp> thetitan Kohlrak ah just like what i used to in winblows wamp / xamp
[07:13] <junkDawgie> well, he'll be back.... i have to go, will you tell him, jhb?
[07:13] <crdlb> Omar87: they need python-gtk2
[07:13] <jhb1608> but I had issues with my tablet in ubuntu
[07:13] <maozhang> i'm having trouble using ubuntu to connect to my wireless network. The network name is correct: 'wireless' , Password type: WPA2 Personal, and the password I put is correct too
[07:13] <Kohlrak> jigp: Well, it's not as much trouble to get there in linux ;)
[07:13] <jigp> thetitan : sudo apt-get install komodo is not working :(
[07:13] <crdlb> Omar87: do you have a /usr/local/lib/python2.5/ ?
[07:13] <jhb1608> so I am installing Windows 2000 in VituralBox OSE anyways
[07:13] <Omar87> crdlb: Yes, I have it.
[07:13] <jhb1608> I will :)
[07:13] <maozhang> everytime i exit the setttings, and go back in, the password type changes from WPA2 personal to WPA personal
[07:13] <jhb1608> fixmbr right?
[07:13] <Kohlrak> jigp: look for komodo in synaptic, general rule when apt-get fails
[07:13] <bryc1> i mean...how do i fix my /etc/fstab file to mount the drive at startup
[07:13] <junkDawgie> thanks jhb1608
[07:14] <jhb1608> fixmbr right? :)?
[07:14] <thetitan> jigp:  are you sure its in the sources?
[07:14] <junkDawgie> yes
[07:14] <jhb1608> just doublechecking
[07:14] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: This will completely flush the filter table(s):  "iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT && iptables -F && iptables -X"
[07:14] <jhb1608> ok
[07:14] <chetnick> maozhang: did you ever connect from that computer to that wireless network?
[07:14] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: This will completely flush the nat table(s):  "iptables -t nat -P PREROUTING ACCEPT && iptables -t nat -P POSTROUTING ACCEPT && iptables -t nat -P OUTPUT ACCEPT && iptables -t nat -F && iptables -t nat -X"
[07:14] <Omar87> crdlb: The "python2,5" you're talking about is a file not a folder, right?
[07:14] <dmi3on> Kohlrak, its for windows install i cant run windows
[07:14] <chetnick> maozhang: make sure it supports WPA2
[07:14] <maozhang> chetnick never
[07:14] <junkDawgie> gotta scoot... later folks
[07:14] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: run the above command, then save
[07:14] <maozhang> maozhang, it supports wpa2
[07:14] <maozhang> im sure of that
[07:14] <crdlb> Omar87: folder in /usr/local/lib, file in /usr/local/bin
[07:15]  * Dexikiix is doing his first successful ./configure make make instal
[07:15] <debasys> viktor: ping
[07:15] <Dexikiix> make takes a while...
[07:15] <Kohlrak> dmi3on: google super grub up then, i found a way to make a cd out of it. Don't remember where it is though
[07:15] <dmi3on> i how do i set grub to load two OS vista and ubuntu now both doesnt work i get error 25
[07:15] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: everything is working properly after reboot.  Should I still flush everything?
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> quick question - installing from the alternate cd, it's throwing an error that says it can't find an IDE or SCSI cdrom.  /dev/cdrom, /dev/scd0, /dev/dvd, /dev/cdrw, and /dev/dvdrw aren't working.  what am i missing here?
[07:15] <chetnick> maozhang: you are using network manager to connect? is the signal good?
[07:15] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: I would, might save you hassle down the road
[07:15] <Omar87> crdlb: It's in "/usr/local/bin".
[07:15] <maozhang> chetnick yes
[07:16] <thetitan> jigp: you looking for komodo edit or the ide?
[07:16] <furenku> hello everybody! I just updated to hardy, and now my network-admin is all disabled; wired connection works, but wireless is dead; has anybody come up with this error before?
[07:16] <maozhang> chetnick, the signal is good
[07:16] <Kohlrak> furenku: double check what i always fail to double check when this happens to me: Is the wireless light on? XD
[07:16] <Omar87> crdlb: Yeah, that's right.
[07:16] <thetitan> furenku:  what do you mean network admin is disabled?  Cant you click the unlock button?
[07:16] <chetnick> maozhang: maozhang: does AP have MAC filter ?
[07:16] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: ok.  do you think I should use iptables to setup a firewall after flushing them?
[07:17] <furenku> thetitan, the windows is "greyed out" and no, i can't click the button, it's also disabled
[07:17] <nat2610> a lot
[07:17] <Kohlrak> chetnick: if it's a peice of hardware that can network, it has a mac filter.
[07:17] <furenku> Kohlrak, no, it's off; but my pc's switch is on
[07:17] <nat2610> hi, I'm using the last ubuntu and I have a hard time playing video .mov I'm able to open them with mplayer but the navigation is almost impossible, when I open them into vlc, the sounds works but not the image. Also I notice on vlc that ffmpeg "ffmpeg decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)" ... and the computer is less than a year hold with...
[07:17] <nat2610> ...the right nividia inside and the drivers installed (with envyNG)  anybody know what to do ?
[07:17] <jhb1608> how do I do the RAR extracting on a file?
[07:17] <Omar87> crdlb: What do I do now?
[07:17] <thetitan> furenku: It has been this way since you pugraded?
[07:17] <crdlb> Omar87: ok, remove everything in /usr/local/bin/ that starts with 'python'
[07:17] <jhb1608> I installed rar and unrar
[07:18] <Omar87> crdlb: Okay.
[07:18] <chetnick> Kohlrak: i ment mac filter turned on
[07:18] <furenku> I think the first reboot it was fine
[07:18] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: versus other firewall packages?  AFAIK, all Linux firewall packages just end up using iptables under the hood...  It's your call whether you want to go direct the the source or not (I guess it depends how comfortable you are with CLI vs GUI tools)
[07:18] <Kohlrak> Furenku: hm... If the light's off then it's either not installed or there's another switch (fn+f3?) that might affect it
[07:18] <furenku> the titan,  I think the first reboot it was fine
[07:18] <Kohlrak> chetnick: ah sorry, i'm not good and sorting thorugh all the messages here and missed what happened till now
[07:18] <furenku> thetitan,  I think the first reboot it was fine
[07:18] <jhb1608> I'm trying to extract a .rar package by a commandline unrar
[07:18] <thetitan> is it possible that there is a runaway network manager running, another desktop maybe or something like that...  has happened to me before
[07:18] <Real_Dj> Hey peeps i need some help
[07:18] <furenku> thetitan, sorry for posting three times
[07:18] <Rat409> jhb1608: try unrar --help or -h
[07:19] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: what is your recommendation for the best command line firewall configuration software?
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> jhb1608: unrar x <filename>
[07:19] <thetitan> furenku: haha, np
[07:19] <jhb1608> k
[07:19] <sandkop> is it possible to customize ubuntu installed in a pendrive?
[07:19] <furenku> thetitan, what do you mean by "runaway network manager"
[07:19] <Omar87> crdlb: Okay, done, then what?
[07:19] <Real_Dj> is it possible to install ubunto on a memorystick and then install it on a computer without any operativesystem
[07:19] <Real_Dj> ?
[07:19] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: hmmm... if by 'best', you mean 'most flexible and powerful', then I would say use iptables directly
[07:19] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: (That's what I do)
[07:19] <jhb1608> weird
[07:20] <crdlb> Omar87: try running a python-using app in a new terminal
[07:20] <jhb1608> my package say it is empty
[07:20] <jhb1608> Hm...
[07:20] <thetitan> furenku: just running somewhere else, check the light on the hardware also is that on?
[07:20] <thetitan> furenku: like didnt close all the way, check the process explorer
[07:20] <jhb1608> I think my package requires the password
[07:20] <Kohlrak> Real_DJ, you could make a bootable pendrive (out of the installation cd) from it using some hacks and stuff, then install from there if that's what you mean.
[07:20] <furenku> thetitan, it's off
[07:20] <Omar87> crdlb: It worked!
[07:20] <Grobvok> Why can't I hear sound from firefox and rhythmbox at the same time?
[07:20] <thetitan> furenku: have you installed the drivers for the wireless?
[07:21] <thetitan> furenku: what kind is it?
[07:21] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: I use a shell script to set the firewall rules.. makes it easier to manage... I can share, if you'd like
[07:21] <Omar87> crdlb: I tried to run emesene, and I was successful.
[07:21] <crdlb> Omar87: you can remove /usr/local/lib/python2.5 too if you want, but it won't hurt anything due to the way python links its paths
[07:21] <furenku> thetitan, not yet; i was hoping for a simpler solution, im doing apt-get linux-backports-etc
[07:21] <tyler_d> VBox will not launch the actual GUI?
[07:21] <sandkop> if i install ubuntu in a pendrive am i going to be able to install software on it?
[07:21] <jigp> thetitan komodo edit and ide for ubuntu :) sudo apt-get install komodo_ide no komodo_edit is not working...
[07:21] <cakey> where do i get codecs to play *.flv files
[07:21] <chetnick> joejoecircusboy: i was trying to setup iptables on my box, i added rules with now hastle, but how do i apply them or start them ?
[07:21] <Omar87> crdlb: But keeping it also won't hurt?
[07:21] <cakey> some FLV files play well
[07:22] <smokewon> im not sure what that done tbh
[07:22] <maozhang> hey i just figured out what the problem is chetnick
[07:22] <smokewon> i just rebooted with the win xp cd
[07:22] <crdlb> Omar87: it shouldn't do any damage, because the python in /usr/bin is hardcoded to read /usr/lib/python2.5
[07:22] <maozhang> my broadcom wireless drivers werent installed
[07:22] <cakey> but those that i ripped from the firefox cache wont
[07:22] <joejoecircusboy> chetnick: apparently 'iptables-save' does something, but I'm not really sure (I use Red Hat for my firewall - it's different)
[07:22] <smokewon> and chose "ASR" or automated system recovery
[07:22] <maozhang> i went to system administration hardware and it wasnt enabled
[07:22] <chetnick> maozhang: that would do it :)
[07:22] <maozhang> :D
[07:22] <smokewon> and it asked for a floppy disk
[07:22] <divya> hi,I want to know something about cgi-scripts
[07:22] <maozhang> now how do i get my mouse wheel to work
[07:22] <thetitan> jigp:  I didnt see it in adept... its not free though... is it a trial or something?
[07:22] <smokewon> so i skipped that bit
[07:22] <smokewon> and just ran "r" repair windows xp installation
[07:22] <chetnick> joejoecircusboy: i was using centos firewall it is different
[07:23] <Omar87> crdlb: Okay, do you suggest that I remove it?
[07:23] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I guess I'd like the easiest, since I'm new to iptables :)
[07:23] <smokewon> and i had only certain commands
[07:23] <smokewon> so i ran fixmbr
[07:23] <smokewon> and then fixboot
[07:23] <jhb1608> how do I attack all parts of the RAR package?
[07:23] <thetitan> furenku: idk..  i always have problems with wireless on ubuntu... I dont use it much though =/
[07:23] <jhb1608> oops attach*
[07:23] <smokewon> but im not sure if that did anything
[07:23] <jigp> thetitan i use free in komodo///
[07:23] <ajay> hi guys
[07:23] <ajay> im new to linix
[07:23] <jigp> komodo..
[07:23] <crdlb> Omar87: sure, just be careful to remove the one in /usr/local, not the system one in /usr :)
[07:23] <smokewon> ffs, why the hell did this happen, last time i swear
[07:23] <thetitan> furenku: if its like lynksys or something you might have a hassle on your hands
[07:23] <chetnick> jhb1608: just take AK47 and shoot
[07:23] <ajay> i need to know when i go on gnome-look.org
[07:23] <jhb1608> AK47?
[07:24] <furenku> thetitan, i hope not; ill try to fix it, ill let you know
[07:24] <ajay> how do i install themes
[07:24] <ajay> like i have compiz and emerald installed
[07:24] <chetnick> jhb1608: machine gun :)
[07:24] <joejoecircusboy> chetnick: centos is exactly the same as rhel...   once you set the rules  with iptables (at bash, or in script), just do a 'service iptables save', which will write the rules to /etc/sysconfig/iptables - which are read/started on bootup
[07:24] <Grobvok> Some people fix their wireless linux problems with ndiswrapper.
[07:24] <jhb1608> oh lol
[07:24] <Rat409> hadronzoo_: if you don't mind adding kde-core-libs kmyfirewall lets you roll your own from a gui.its good also many iptables scripts,i like killerwall,shorewall,ipkungfu,arno's etc.
[07:24] <chetnick> joejoecircusboy: i know :)
[07:24] <ajay> when i look at the previews shown on the themes
[07:24] <thetitan> jigp: strange, this site begs to differ http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/index.mhtml
[07:24] <jhb1608> well I have rar.part.01, .02, .03, and .04
[07:24] <joejoecircusboy> chetnick: what was your question?
[07:24] <ajay> it looks nice
[07:24] <divya> Do cgi -scripts support ssh
[07:24] <chetnick> jhb1608: just extract first one
[07:24] <chetnick> or any
[07:24] <ajay> but im not able to have the same results
[07:24] <jhb1608> I am
[07:25] <chetnick> it will combine them
[07:25] <jigp> Kohlrak thetitan : aside from komodo is there any free opensource editors and ide's? thanks (like the replacement of dreamweaver and photoshop...i use gimp for photoshop
[07:25] <Omar87> crdlb: You mean, I must remove "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/" and NOT "/usr/bin/python"?
[07:25] <jhb1608> you sure :P
[07:25] <hadronzoo_> hadronzoo_: I guess I should go ahead and install xorg then.  Thanks for all of your help!
[07:25] <chetnick> jhb1608: i am rapidshare user, it works for me all the time.
[07:25] <jhb1608> oh me too lol
[07:25] <chetnick> :0
[07:25] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: Not really familiar with the GUI firewall tool in Ubuntu (I think hardy ships with a new one).... maybe the others can help with that
[07:25] <thetitan> jigp:  i use quanta because its fast, i like Eclipse but its java and i got a slow machine =/
[07:25] <jhb1608> prenium user
[07:26] <jhb1608> well for 3 days I had to.
[07:26] <Rat409> hadronzoo_: gnome default is firestarter,gui very easy also very good
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> how would i search through a folder for a certain text string in a file?
[07:26] <chetnick> thetitan: try jgrasp if you are not doing something very advanced
[07:26] <crdlb> Omar87: yes, _only_ remove it if it's in /usr/local/
[07:26] <thetitan> chetnick:  for web development?
[07:26] <jigp> thetitan : ok.i found quanta in synaptic.ill just check the quanta and quanta-data?then install
[07:26] <Kohlrak> jigp: if you like all around IDEs for things, there are plenty out there. Heck, unlike many programmers, i use gedit for just about everything.
[07:27] <Omar87> crdlb: Okay, understood.
[07:27] <crdlb> Omar87: the install in /usr/ is the system python install; your system would break badly without that :)
[07:27] <nbgs938> kindofabuzz: grep -r string foldername
[07:27] <kindofabuzz> thanks nbgs938
[07:27] <thetitan> jigp: if you just check quanta it will automatically select all of the required packages
[07:27] <jigp> Kohlrak : there is no Heck in synatip upon searching
[07:27] <hadronzoo_> Rat409: cool, I'll install gnome
[07:27] <painy> hello
[07:28] <Kohlrak> jigp: Heck is an expression. XD
[07:28] <painy> Hello
[07:28] <Rat409> hadronzoo_: homepage and docs at http://fs-security.com/ iirc
[07:28] <kindofabuzz> nbgs938: i'm guessing that if no results it will just line return?
[07:28] <Rat409> google has good pictorial 5min fw
[07:28] <Omar87> crdlb: When I did ls'ed the directory: "/usr/local/lib/" this was the output: "eclipse  gtk-2.0  lincity  php  python2.4  python2.5  site_ruby"
[07:28] <hadronzoo_> Rat409: cool, thanks!
[07:28] <nbgs938> kindofabuzz: yes
[07:28] <BrendanWelsh> Firefox isn't launching for me, is there any terminal commands I can do to maybe try and fix it? It's worked fine but it crashed. Is there a process still running for it that I can somehow kill
[07:28] <jhb1608> yay
[07:29] <thetitan> Any game developers in here?
[07:29] <Omar87> crdlb: Do I remove both python2.5 and python2,4?
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> BrendanWelsh: try 'killall firefox'
[07:29] <jigp> Kohlrak : hehehe sorry..
[07:29] <painy> i am learning game devwelopment
[07:29] <jigp> thetitan : downloading it. is it like dreamweaver?more features?
[07:29] <thetitan> painy: me too...  what are you learning?
[07:29] <painy> c++
[07:29] <nbgs938> kindofabuzz: if you want grep to ignore case when searching, use -ri instead -r
[07:30] <thetitan> jigp: in a way like dreamwaver, no WYSIWYG though
[07:30] <vassler> does anyone know if you need compiz to run emerald?
[07:30] <Kohlrak> painy: what do you need?
[07:30] <BrendanWelsh> joejoecircusboy: Nope, thanks though.  Any other suggestions?
[07:31] <thetitan> painy: Are you reading a book or something?
[07:32] <jigp> thetitan : gimp is like photoshop.im practicing and familiarized it tho photoshop is the best
[07:33] <painy> i am reading "thinking in C++" thetitan, yeah i saw the lazyfoo tutorials too did a couple of them,  i am using Codeblocks as the compiler
[07:33] <thetitan> painy: thank you much
[07:33] <Finnish> My friend has  Ati radeon xpress 200M on his laptop. He is trying to get a  1920X1200-dispĺay on it (hooked with VGA). It doesn't see it right. How could I help him?
[07:33] <joejoecircusboy> Rad409: -15?
[07:33] <Rat409> BrendanWelsh: see what the process id is via top then in xterm as sudo kill that process number
[07:33] <Rat409> yuh killall -15 is max afaik
[07:34] <thetitan> jigp:  yeah, i love me some photoshop, can't go wrong.  Gimp is great though.
[07:34] <BrendanWelsh> doesn't even appear in top, odd.
[07:34] <thetitan> jigp:  Way more extensible plugins and stuff like that
[07:34] <joejoecircusboy> Rat409: -9 is the most 'powerful'
[07:34] <Rat409> BrendanWelsh: any zombie's?
[07:34] <joejoecircusboy> Rat409: -9 is -KILL, it can't be caught (the other signals can)
[07:34] <jhb1608> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[07:34] <jhb1608> how do I fix it?
[07:35] <jigp> thetitan : yeah..how about the replacement for fireworks?macromedia flash?
[07:35] <Rat409> joejoecircusboy: no idea but my linux guru said -15,i'll google it
[07:35] <magneticubuntu> re
[07:35] <BrendanWelsh> zombies? not that i know of
[07:35] <manolo> I seem to have a problem installing a program in ubuntu. the terminal gives me the following error message:
[07:35] <Ahadiel> jhb1608, gpasswd -a username vboxusers
[07:35] <manolo> manolo@manolo-laptop:~/k3mathworksheets$ ./install
[07:35] <manolo> Checking for custom installation directory...
[07:35] <manolo> Checking for K3 Math Worksheets Home...
[07:35] <manolo> creating /usr/local/k3mathworksheets directory
[07:35] <manolo> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/k3mathworksheets': Permission denied
[07:35] <FloodBot1> manolo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <manolo> Checking for binary directory...
[07:35] <joejoecircusboy> Rat409: I used to do linux programming... I know this :)
[07:35] <Ahadiel> jhb1608, Where username is your username, then relog.
[07:35] <magneticubuntu> guys how can i mount a hd parition in shell plz? (forgot the args)
[07:35] <jhb1608> k
[07:35] <BrendanWelsh> tried killing the # after launching it and it didn't launch anyway
[07:35] <jhb1608> ah ok
[07:36] <manolo> ok
[07:36] <BrendanWelsh> it says "launching firefox web browser" in my bottom panel and then doesn't launch
[07:36] <jhb1608> permission declined
[07:36] <thetitan> jigp: check this out: http://swanking-chin.blogspot.com/2007/10/complete-replacement-software-list-of.html
[07:36] <joejoecircusboy> Rat409: 'man signal'
[07:36] <Ahadiel> jhb1608, add a sudo infront of that :D
[07:36] <Rat409> manolo: anything outside "home' req's sudo usually
[07:36] <Hackerlife> i'm having trouble getting google vids to work on opera; i tryied 9,51, 9.50, and others. i'm sure that flashplugin-nonfree is installed. any help?
[07:36] <jhb1608> oh duh
[07:36] <jhb1608> ok
[07:36] <jhb1608> added
[07:36] <jigp> thetitan : thank you... :)
[07:36] <jhb1608> it works
[07:37] <Vegombrei> HALP !!
[07:37] <jhb1608> relogin?
[07:37] <manolo> ok, i will try that. thank you.
[07:37] <Ahadiel> jhb1608, Yeah, you need to login again for group changes to take effect.
[07:37] <jhb1608> ok
[07:37] <jhb1608> thanks
[07:37] <jhb1608> brb
[07:37] <sandkop> can i install software on usb pendrive ubuntu isntalation?
[07:38] <magneticubuntu> guys i'm trying to mount /dev/sdb4 in shell : mount -t /dev/sdb4 /mnt is not working
[07:38] <Vegombrei> i recently got a blackberry and i cant get it to sync with ubuntu for my contacts in evolution .. can someone please help me fix this its quite urgent as if im not able to do so im gonna return the phone and get a sony instead
[07:38] <magneticubuntu> what are the args plz/
[07:38] <nbgs938> sandkop: is it a real installation or just the live system running from pendrive?
[07:39] <BrendanWelsh> ...my shutdown button isn't working. i can reboot in terminal but it gets an odd error and when it reboots the screen is displaced
[07:39] <sandkop> nbgs938, i have installed ubuntu from the cd to the usb stick... and want to install software an customize gnome
[07:39] <BrendanWelsh> like my GUI shutdown button in the top left does nothing. odd.
[07:39] <nbgs938> sandkop: then i guess it's possible
[07:39] <manolo> thank you very much rat409!
[07:40] <BrendanWelsh> actually, neither panel are responding. a hard reboot will probably work, be right back
[07:40] <sandkop> nbgs938, and if i install remastersys on the usb too is it possible to install that on any computer?
[07:40] <wirenik> BrendanWalsh: Always try a hard reboot first. ;)
[07:40] <nbgs938> sandkop: i don't know remastersys, sorry
[07:41] <sandkop> nbgs938, ok thanks ill see if i can run the system from the usb and install some stuff
[07:41] <joejoecircusboy> (02:40:22 AM) wirenik: BrendanWalsh: Always try a hard reboot first. ;) << Only if it's company equipment :P
[07:42] <Rat409> magneticubuntu: ex. mount -t ext3 <device> <mountpoint>
[07:42] <Vegombrei> deb http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ feisty main   ..... will this work if i have hardy ?
[07:42] <BrendanWelsh> wirenik: I normally would, but I was downloading a package and couldn't reboot but wanted to look something up. Sorry for any inconvienences! ;)
[07:42] <magneticubuntu> rat: thx man
[07:42] <wirenik> BrendanWalsh: no problem, just making sure :)
[07:44] <Vegombrei> deb http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ feisty main   ..... will this work if i have hardy ?
[07:44] <joejoecircusboy> Vegombrei: Might, try it?
[07:44] <crdlb> Vegombrei: probably a bad idea
[07:45] <smokewon> hey how do i find out what (hd, what_ever) params to put in grub to load another OS? it only shows sda1, i have ubuntu installed on partition sda2, but sda1 is free, how do i do this?
[07:45] <smokewon> !grub
[07:46] <crdlb> Vegombrei: opensync is _in_ hardy
[07:46] <Vegombrei> joejoecircusboy: im trying to sync a blackberry with evolution contacts .. this is some of the first steps according to a forum someone posted .. but i guess the poster is running fiesty and im on hardy .. isnt there anyone herewho has a blackberry and has sucessfully sync with ubuntu ??
[07:46] <hal_v2> I could really use a hand here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5536870#post5536870
[07:46] <ajay> i want to kknow if there is a similar program to notepad ++ for linux
[07:46] <ajay> im really new to linux
[07:46] <ajay> i have to do some coding
[07:47] <nbgs938> [[cEuwe_fZz]]: no msg please
[07:47] <ajay> and im still not really familiar to vim
[07:47] <Vegombrei> crdlb: can i pastebin the instructions so you can tell me whats different in there ?? im a noob and dont understand most of it
[07:47] <joejoecircusboy> Vegombrei: Looks like the program you want is already in the stock repositories (no need to configure the 3rd party one above)
[07:47] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: The problem seems to be dnsmasq.  Iptables has just been reset back
[07:47] <hcMyth> ajay: Isnt notepad++ for linux? Also gedit is good
[07:47] <ajay> i know that at skool on windows we use notepad ++ it displays like all the colors and everything
[07:47] <crdlb> Vegombrei: just try installing them without adding the 3rd party repo
[07:47] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: hrm
[07:47] <Flannel> ajay: Try SciTE
[07:47] <hcMyth> gedit displays colors
[07:47] <[[cEuwe_fZz]]> ilma
[07:47] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_:  which problem? New one?
[07:48] <Vegombrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35013/
[07:48] <hcMyth> ajay: sudo apt-get install gedit ... but just try 'gedit' first it's probably installed already
[07:48] <Vegombrei> joejoecircusboy: i think you should see this too
[07:48] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: my iptables has been reset to before we flushed them.
[07:48] <ajay> hcMyth: ok thanks
[07:48] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: oh!... hmm
[07:48] <Rat409> ajay: cream is a theme system for gvim,graphical version of vi/vim
[07:48] <Vegombrei> crdlb: ?
[07:48] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: you need dns masq for eth1?
[07:49] <joejoecircusboy> BrendanWelsh: All good?
[07:49] <BrendanWelsh> Indeed.
[07:49] <BrendanWelsh> All it required was a reboot. :)
[07:49] <hadronzoo_> hadronzoo_: dnsmasq.conf has a built in dhcp and tftp server
[07:49] <ajay> hcMyth: but if i want to install notepad ++ on linux
[07:50] <ajay> hcMyth: how could i do thast
[07:50] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: sorry, dnsmasq.conf has a built in dhcp and tftp server
[07:50] <crdlb> Vegombrei: http://www.chipbennett.net/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/synchronizing-a-blackberry-in-linux/
[07:50] <BrendanWelsh> joejoecircusboy: Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.
[07:50] <Rat409> !wine | ajay
[07:50] <hcMyth> ajay: scite is its equivalent: sudo apt-get install scite
[07:50] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: so you're using that to provide services to eth1?
[07:51] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: yes
[07:51] <joejoecircusboy> BrendanWelsh: np (not sure I did anything?)
[07:51] <khmer42> On the command line how to I change the owner of all files in a folder from 'nobody' to 'root'?
[07:51] <RealBall|oSUSE> is it possible to have FUSE zfs userland?
[07:51] <ajay> ok thanks guys
[07:51] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: can you do an 'iptables -L -vv' and 'iptables -t nat -L -vv' and pastebin?
[07:51] <Chris|> what package do i need for the hardware drivers manager?
[07:51] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I originally followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[07:52] <nbgs938> khmer42: sudo chown -R nobody foldername
[07:52] <Rat409> khmer42: sudo chown -R /nobody(fullpath) root:root(user:group)
[07:52] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: I would have to change the tables to paste it...
[07:52] <BrendanWelsh> joejoecircusboy: You were kind enough to help me out!
[07:52] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: right
[07:52] <nbgs938> khmer42: err, sudo chown -R root foldername
[07:52]  * coolbhavi is away: I'm busy
[07:53] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: ok
[07:53] <khmer42> nbgs938 / rat109: cheers
[07:53] <joejoecircusboy> hmm
[07:53] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: sec, let me read that posting
[07:53]  * coolbhavi is back (gone 00:00:41)
[07:53] <jigp> hello how to edit the packages after copying the packages in computers?why Ubuntu will erase the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[07:54] <nbgs938> coolbhavi: no public away messages please
[07:54] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: ok
[07:54] <crdlb> jigp: what are you trying to do?
[07:54] <joejoecircusboy> hadronzoo_: I'll be back in 5 mins
[07:54] <hcMyth>  .ignore [[cEuwe_fZz]]
[07:54] <hcMyth> .ignore [[cEuwe_fZz]]
[07:55] <hcMyth> how do I do that? :S
[07:55] <Rat409> like /ignore nick
[07:55] <hcMyth> Yeah that worked in mirc.. but im on gaim now
[07:55] <hadronzoo_> joejoecircusboy: ok, thanks
[07:55] <hcMyth> oh well
[07:56] <Rat409> in irssi /unquery is good :0
[07:56] <DozedOnLinux>  /ignore <nick>
[07:56] <nbgs938> Rat409: irssi is good anyway :)
[07:57] <Rat409> indeed :)
[07:57] <gnumm> i just read activated proposed repos can make ubuntu unstable
[07:57] <gnumm> what about the backports?
[07:57] <jigp> crdlb : okay here (pc im using right) ive downloaded 300+ packages and installed some applications..how to copy the 300+ packages and the applications that ive installed in pc2? and is it true that if you dont edit it it will erase?
[07:58] <the_gamer> hi folks
[07:58] <the_gamer> i got an advanced question
[07:58] <DozedOnLinux> hcMyth: opening chat tab with whom messaged you, go to Coversation menu , choose Block
[07:58] <crdlb> jigp: you want to create a local apt-mirror
[07:58] <hcMyth> DozedOnLinux: thanks
[07:58] <hcMyth> done :)
[07:59] <the_gamer> why are there three , behind every gecos-field of every "real" user in my /etc/passwd?
[07:59] <^Daisy^> how do i open .rpm files?
[07:59] <jigp> crdlb : yes :) for no time hushle or time consuming..i will just copy the packages from pc1 and paste it to pc2...
[07:59] <Rat409> ^Daisy^: rpmextract
[08:00] <Azoff> hello
[08:00] <DozedOnLinux> !cloning | jigp
[08:00] <Flannel> !alien | ^Daisy^
[08:00] <^Daisy^> Rat409 i don't see that file
[08:00] <Navy1> Does anyone know how to connect evolution-addressbok and ldap-server?
[08:01] <Navy1> Evolution wont bind correctly
[08:01] <Azoff> how can I restore vista mbr after installing ubuntu so that I can apply the Vista SP1 (I will reinstall grub after doing that ;) )
[08:01] <^Daisy^> so i can't install  .rpm files?
[08:01] <nbgs938> ^Daisy^: did you check if the software you want to install is in the repos?
[08:01] <crdlb> ^Daisy^: no, you shouldn't if you can avoid it
[08:02] <Flannel> the_gamer: It's other information.  name,office,office phone,home phone I believe.
[08:02] <^Daisy^> nbgs938  repos?
[08:02] <jigp> DozedOnLinux : is there a way to just copy it using a mouse and save it to the usb?coz what im trying to do is copy the packages that ive downloaded from pc1 and paste to pc2 using usb flash drive so that i will not download again the packages...
[08:02] <^Daisy^> crdlb what if i can't avoid it
[08:02] <nbgs938> ^Daisy^: package repositories
[08:02] <crdlb> ^Daisy^: what is it?
[08:02] <^Daisy^> http://download.camfrog.com/serverlinux.phtml
[08:03] <the_gamer> Flannel: what would happen if i delete the,s?
[08:04] <DozedOnLinux> how may i have suddently lost the "KEYNOTFOUND" in debian repo's ? i check the boxes, and when i reload SPM i get error that KEYNOTFOUND , it didnt do that till i had un-selected them one day, then re-selecting them, i find this error KEYNOTFOUND
[08:04] <Flannel> the_gamer: bad things I imagine.
[08:04] <crdlb> jigp: you can do just that, but it would be a bit tedious to do continuously
[08:04] <Flannel> the_gamer: either that, or nothing at all
[08:04] <the_gamer> like what?
[08:04] <DozedOnLinux> prbably something easy, but nonetheless, why it happened is more important
[08:04] <^Daisy^> nbgs938 is that some kind of website?
[08:05] <the_gamer> bad things like nothing? omg
[08:05] <the_gamer> i better don't touch it then
[08:05] <dn4> What is the command to view all files running when logged into a command prompt?
[08:05] <Flannel> dn4: ps aux
[08:05] <nbgs938> ^Daisy^: no, it's the repositories setting in the package manager (synaptic)
[08:06] <jigp> is it possible to copy the installed applications like quanta , nvu in pc1 and paste it to pc2 so that you will not sudo apt-get install nvu in pc2?
[08:06] <nbgs938> ^Daisy^: but i guess this proprietary video chat rubbish is not in the repos
[08:06] <DozedOnLinux> fin
[08:06] <DozedOnLinux> fiu
[08:07] <furenku> after upgrading to hardy, I've had a hard time setting up my nvidia video card, resolutions seems to come all wrong
[08:07] <DozedOnLinux> something like "files in use", now i cant recall
[08:07] <^Daisy^> anybody who can install  gyachi in 5 minutes and log into yahoo; i will give you $10.00 via paypal: and i can even give you my yahoo id/password if you don't have yahoo account
[08:07] <dn4> Flannel: ps axu also works
[08:07] <crdlb> jigp: copy them from one computer's archive to the other's, then when you sudo apt-get install them, it will use the version you copied
[08:07] <dn4> Thanks Flannel
[08:08] <Flannel> dn4: right, theyre flags, order generally isn't important
[08:08] <dn4> Flannel: any idea on how to make the list go by in segments instead of filling up the whole prompt at once?
[08:09] <Flannel> dn4: ps aux | less
[08:09] <Devourer> Is there an application which can tell me if a mp3 is V0, V2, or CBR?
[08:09] <dmi3on> i cant find how to fix booting problem with daul OS, i install ubuntu and had visa on PC, after rebot grub didnt vista was strating right the way, i try to fix now grub is starting but no OS is booting when i choice ubunut comes up error 25: Disk read error
[08:09] <Rat409> ^Daisy^: : try alien the rpm then sudo gdebi bla.rpm as a last resort
[08:09] <jigp> crdlb : how to copy?which directory?
[08:09] <^Daisy^> rat409 huh
[08:09] <ingramFlash> I am having an issue with nm-applet and connecting to a wpa2 access point.  nm-applet keeps asking me for the wpa password after I try and connect.  It seems  it can't authenticate
[08:09] <Rat409> !alien | ^Daisy^
[08:09] <crdlb> jigp: the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:09] <asdfasd> i just install nvidia drivers 173.14.12 by going through their binary install....it didn't work...how do I revert to the restricted modules that came with Hardy
[08:10] <dn4> hmm
[08:10] <jigp> crdlb : the packages right...what about the applications that ive installed in pc1?can i copy them and paste to pc2?
[08:10] <DozedOnLinux> Devourer: you could try >  mp3info
[08:10] <^Daisy^> ubottu  what do you mean by "dangerous"
[08:10] <crdlb> jigp: no, you copy the packages only, then install them
[08:10] <ingramFlash> I've got ndiswrapper with a Belkin usb wireless adapter, but I don't think that's the problem (the drivers and wpa auth work on other distros)
[08:10] <dn4> thank you Flannel
[08:10] <dn4> quit
[08:10] <dmi3on> can some one help me pls
[08:11] <crdlb> jigp: you can use the !clone feature to get all the packages installed on one computer installed on another, but that doesn't copy the packages themselves, just the names
[08:11] <dmi3on> i tryed super grub doesnt wotk for me too :(
[08:11] <Devourer> DozedOnLinux, alright. Thanks.
[08:11] <jigp> crdlb : i got it now. :)
[08:12] <crdlb> jigp: I'm curious, do you have a low bandwidth cap or really slow net connection?
[08:12] <dn4> ok I got the system to log off and back on
[08:12] <dmi3on> i cant find how to fix booting problem with daul OS, i install ubuntu and had visa on PC, after rebot grub didnt work vista was strating right the way, i try to fix now grub is starting but no OS is booting when i choice ubunut comes up error 25: Disk read error
[08:13] <jigp> how to see the cube? i dont see cube in ubuntu 8 desktop.only cool tricks i saw the movable like ctrl alt arrow..how about the box or cube that will steady in your desktop?
[08:13] <dn4> I run this command
[08:13] <dn4> env WINEDEBUG="/home/dn4/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe"
[08:13] <dn4> how do I kill this program from running?
[08:13] <jigp> crdlb : slow net connection....thats why i dont want to download from the scratch again
[08:13] <ackbahr> Hi! I want to tweak my Ubuntu so that each user has got his/her private files AND there's a common, shared folder where you can drop stuff that becomes rwx for everyone. How can I do that?
[08:14] <dmi3on> i cant find how to fix booting problem with daul OS, i install ubuntu and had visa on PC, after rebot grub didnt work vista was strating right the way, i try to fix now grub is starting but no OS is booting when i choice ubunut comes up error 25: Disk read error
[08:15] <DozedOnLinux> !grub
[08:15] <moreau> how do i getubuntu to allowsound from multipleprograms
[08:15] <moreau> atm, if i have ay music player open, i cant watch videos
[08:16] <hateball> ackbahr: Make a directory somewhere outside /home, like /opt/shared, then chmod it 777
[08:16] <Flannel> dmi3on: Grub error 25 probably means you've got something wrong in your menu.lst, can you pastebin that file?  (/boot/grub/menu.lst)
[08:16] <ackbahr> hateball: OK, but will stuff I drop there afterward become 777 as well?
[08:16] <DozedOnLinux> dmi3on:  there may be a way using grub-repair , but i cant recall exactly off-hand
[08:17] <dmi3on> DozedOnLinux, i said i cant find how to fix i try what is on link first of all thats why i can boot now even vista, second i am very new to this stuff and its hard for me to read
[08:17] <[kurt]> -ru
[08:17] <dmi3on> Flannel, ok
[08:18] <dmi3on> .
[08:18] <dmi3on> .
[08:18] <dmi3on> .
[08:18] <FloodBot1> dmi3on: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <ingramFlash> I'm having problems with nm-applet connecting to a wpa2 access point.  Is there a way to fix this issue?
[08:18] <DozedOnLinux> dmi3on:  join the thousands that have the same issue. there is a way, some of it is very technical, that of which i cant be positve how to reapir. although, i am sure someone knows how, just not i
[08:19] <hateball> ackbahr: No, you'd need to assign a group to that folder, and make sure the users are member of it
[08:20] <ackbahr> hateball: The idea I had was to 700 each user's /home/XXXXX/, then 777 all their files inside this (and change their umasks to 777) and have this 777 sharing folder. But this is dangerous if someone knows there's a certain folder in my /home/ackbahr, and cds there in one shot, no?
[08:20] <hateball> ackbahr: Well you can chmod -R
[08:21] <dmi3on-1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35020/
[08:22] <dmi3on> Flannel, can you see my post ?
[08:22] <ackbahr> hateball: But I'd have to chmod it manually each time a user drops something there, then?
[08:22] <hateball> ackbahr: Like.... sudo mkdir /opt/sharedstuff && sudo chmod -R 777 /opt/sharedstuff
[08:22] <Flannel> dmi3on: is that the whole thing?
[08:22] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#WPASupplicant%20Problems%20in%20Ubuntu%206.06
[08:22] <dmi3on> no
[08:22] <hateball> ackbahr: No, not if you chmod -R, you shouldnt have to
[08:22] <dmi3on> 1 sec
[08:23] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: How does this help me connect to a WPA2 network?
[08:23] <dmi3on-1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35021/
[08:23] <tobago> how can get the absolute size of a directory (means all its files)?
[08:24] <nbgs938> tobago: du -sh dirname
[08:24] <hateball> tobago: du -s
[08:24] <dmi3on> Flannel, thats the whole think
[08:24] <jrolson> I'm looking for printing programs like printshop or printmaster. Any help??
[08:24] <ackbahr> hateball: So the files and folders dropped there should inherit the permissions?
[08:24] <Mr_Egg> hi all :) What's the difference between maxcpus=0 and maxcpus=1? TIA
[08:24] <Devourer> DozedOnLinux, mp3info I do not think tells me specifically if an mp3 is V0 or V2 or CBR.
[08:25] <Flannel> dmi3on: Alright, and do you know off hand where your partitions are?  (if not, sudo fdisk -l will tell you)
[08:25] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:25] <dmi3on> yes
[08:25] <dmi3on> sda1 NTFS
[08:25] <dmi3on> sda2 Swap
[08:25] <iqson716> hi
[08:25] <dmi3on> sda3 /
[08:25] <tobago> nbgs938, hateball thanks a lot.
[08:25] <hateball> ackbahr: Should work yes
[08:25] <murlidhar> how to run files which are in .rb extension
[08:26] <Flannel> dmi3on: Alright, well, thats some of your problem.  sda1 for instance is hd0,0, sda3 is hd0,2.  In your menu.lst, you have hd1,1 and hd1,3 respecitively
[08:26] <murlidhar> i have the source file for cabos application but i am not sure how to compile it
[08:26] <jrolson> any help here at all????????
[08:26] <ackbahr> hateball: doesn't (just tried)
[08:26] <Flannel> dmi3on: with that (and the windows change) you'll also want to remove your mapping, since that's no longer needed
[08:26] <dmi3on> hehe
[08:26] <dmi3on> how
[08:26] <hateball> ackbahr: That's weird... since I tried myself
[08:26] <dmi3on> what is mapping
[08:26] <dmi3on> ?>
[08:26] <ackbahr> hateball: can you tell me again how you did it?
[08:26] <Flannel> dmi3on: lines 160 and 161
[08:26] <jrolson> I'm looking for print programs like print shop or printmaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:27] <Flannel> jrolson: Try GIMP
[08:27] <dmi3on> ok, thx very much i left liver fills it going to work
[08:27] <murlidhar> it has a .rb extensin
[08:27] <DozedOnLinux> Devourer:  is there a reason why you need to see the underlying mp3 formats ?
[08:28] <murlidhar> !printer | jrolson
[08:28] <Enan> you choose to be made of respect underlying their relationship ? we are the same in any way ! he's trying to kill you all right, bill
[08:28] <Enan> my corps murlidhar | ?
[08:28] <iqson716> I install sabayon(gentoo based linux) on my pc inside ubuntu now I have a problem that in grub menu it don't show ubuntu that I select it!
[08:28] <Enan> we went blank paper cups over by the common good
[08:28] <Enan> to install a new weakness, of the journey she slept
[08:28] <Devourer> DozedOnLinux, is there any difference between a V2 mp3 and a mp3 at 192 kbps?
[08:28] <hateball> ackbahr: sudo mkdir -p /opt/test && sudo chmod -R 777 /opt/test && touch /opt/test/test.txt
[08:28] <Enan> no difference
[08:28] <Flannel> Enan: please stop.
[08:29] <feaster83> iqson, are you sure you don't overwrite the ubuntu partitions?
[08:29] <NooKia> hugabugs
[08:29] <gnumm> will alien-arena 7.10 be in backports?
[08:29] <hateball> ackbahr: Should create a new folder as root, and in the end create a file as you
[08:29] <NooKia> hugabugas
[08:29] <Enan> please, don't even dangerous ! haven't want power, i just wanted to be left alone
[08:29] <murlidhar> !bad bot
[08:29] <Enan> to touch you covered we have two friends ? she wondered what will happen within my power, he was a fat root in the way they greet people
[08:29] <Enan> you will forget the past, he said kindly
[08:29] <NooKia> is this a black mans distro ?
[08:29] <ackbahr> hateball: OK for created files, but what about copied files?
[08:30] <DozedOnLinux> Devourer:  i couldnt say for sure, i suppose it would depend on what codec was used. looks to ber version info, maybe more compression, less loss of original ??? your guess is as good as mine
[08:30] <murlidhar> also can anyone tell me how to get mutella working?
[08:30] <hateball> ackbahr: Well there's no difference, as they are in essence created when you copy them
[08:30] <iqson716> I install sabayon(gentoo based linux) on my pc inside ubuntu now I have a problem that in grub menu it don't show ubuntu that I select it!:(
[08:31] <DozedOnLinux> !checkmp3
[08:31] <Dark_Titan> hello
[08:31] <ackbahr> hateball: Well, I tried copying a file and it's mod was still 700 as before....
[08:31] <DozedOnLinux> Devourer:  found something that may suit your needs > checkmp3
[08:31] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: No luck with those docs.  Any other ideas?
[08:31] <brizben> How do I list all files on my system that have been changed in the last 24 hours?
[08:31] <Devourer> DozedOnLinux, thanks. :D
[08:32] <Mr_Egg> Hi all :) Can somebody explain the difference between maxcpus=0 and maxcpus=1 ? Thanks
[08:32] <Kartagis> i installed xfonts-intl-japanese_1.2.1-6ubuntu3_all.deb. how do I use it?
[08:32] <arooni> i have 1250 (opt-in) email addresses in a mysql database.  i need to send them one email (and possibly more in the future)... what's the best way of going about this?
[08:32] <jigp> !cube
[08:32] <mistform> Kartagis, a .deb is an install file, double click it
[08:32] <murlidhar> also can anyone tell me how to get mutella working?
[08:32] <Kartagis> mistform: i already installed it
[08:33] <jigp> !short cut keys
[08:33] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash: i dont really deal with wpa i just know it to be a two-part situation . best i can do is sample in interface file>         wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:33] <Flannel> arooni: a number of languages have email support, that's probably your best bet.
[08:33] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash: you need that file on your system
[08:33] <Kartagis> mistform: i want to use the fonts
[08:33] <murlidhar> !ops enan
[08:33] <mistform> Kartagis, so change the font in your appearance menu
[08:33] <Dark_Titan> hello
[08:33] <Dark_Titan> brb
[08:33] <Dark_Titan> Zen
[08:33] <Flannel> mistform: yes?
[08:33] <Dark_Titan> you here?
[08:33] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  that is just a sample and may not cover wpa2
[08:33] <FloodBot1> Dark_Titan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <Flannel> murlidhar: yes?
[08:33] <jigp> is there any shortcut keys available in ubuntu? like in winblows you could press win+e to open a directory..how about in ubuntu?
[08:33] <jigp> thetitans : thanks i got the free :)
[08:34] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: Yeah, I've got that, which is why it's kind of confusing
[08:34] <Dark_Titan> FloodBot1: Please stop making inaccurate flood accusations :D
[08:34] <murlidhar> Flannel: the bot enan has again come
[08:34] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  i can try google keywords maybe hit something good for you, give me a min
[08:34] <Kartagis> mistform: i added the keyboard layout switcher to the panel, but it doesn't change
[08:34] <keisangi> hi there
[08:34] <moreau> wtf enan was a bot
[08:35] <ikonia> moreau: don't need phrases like "wtf"
[08:35] <ikonia> !wtf > moreau
[08:35] <keisangi> how can i boot without gdm/kdm X ? (like init 3 in inittab)
[08:35] <DozedOnLinux> !jp > [[cEuwe_fZz]]
[08:35] <ikonia> keisangi: disable gdm at run level 2
[08:35] <mistform> Kartagis, go to System > Preferences > Keyboard. Drag it into the layout section? was that were you did it?
[08:35] <Kartagis> mistform: yes
[08:35] <keisangi> ikonia: how can i do that ?
[08:35] <ikonia> keisangi: update-rc
[08:36] <Kartagis> mistform: i can use russian, arabic and english but not japanese
[08:36] <ackbahr> hateball: I did what you did before (-R 777 for the folder, then touch a file inside of it) and I got this : -rw-r--r-- 1 jean jean 0 2008-08-07 09:34 test.fil
[08:36] <mistform> Kartagis, go to Add+, find the Japanese layout, select it, and press Add+.
[08:36] <keisangi> ikonia: what about update-rc ?
[08:36] <Enan> best layout for his lack of social grace
[08:36] <mistform> Kartagis, then select it as your default
[08:36] <Enan> tell : it are time for cherishing this reunion
[08:36] <hateball> ackbahr: yeah... looking at it atm, gimme a sec
[08:36] <ikonia> keisangi: thats the command to disable a program from a specific run level
[08:36] <Enan> a russian Kartagis you are the same in that instant she was afraid
[08:36] <Enan> certainly sec you again
[08:36] <ackbahr> hateball: Sorry, thanks
[08:37] <keisangi> ikonia: i don't have such a command, closest i have is update-rc.d
[08:37] <ikonia> keisangi: thats it,
[08:37] <ikonia> keisangi: I'm not on an ubuntu box so couldn't be certain, well done
[08:38] <murlidhar> ikonia: any idea how can i make mutella work
[08:38] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  WPA2 content, 70% say this helped them > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[08:38] <keisangi> ikonia: thanks for the info, how can i use that command btw ? just update-rc.d gdm  ?
[08:38] <odin22> t
[08:38] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  there is also sample interface configs in there too
[08:38] <ikonia> keisangi: check the synatax
[08:38] <mistform> i'm trying to send music to a verizon motorola phone, anyone ever heard of this happening before?
[08:38] <ikonia> murlidhar: what's the problem with it
[08:38] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: Thanks, I'm looking at it
[08:38] <murlidhar> ikonia: it's a ncurses based gnutella client
[08:38] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  i will look further
[08:39] <ikonia> murlidhar: yes, but whats the problem with it when you run it ?
[08:39] <murlidhar> ikonia: it's doesn't give me any search results
[08:40] <wnorrix> i have a Dell server with 12 TB, but when I install Ububtu 8.04 it only recognizes 2 TB
[08:40] <wnorrix> any idea why his happens?
[08:40] <Guest36644> s
[08:40] <ikonia> wnorrix: disk ?
[08:40] <aLeSD> hi all... I'm tring to have a remote X session
[08:41] <_numbers_> ඉ
[08:41] <cplx> I want to bond 2 x Gigabit NIC's with Ubuntu Server, can someone assist?
[08:41] <aLeSD> but in my remote terminal server client the option XDMCD is deactived .... ideas ?
[08:42] <aLeSD> I have only RDP protocol active
[08:42] <wnorrix> ikonia: there are 12 disk of 1 tb each
[08:42] <ikonia> wnorrix: ok, and how are they raided ?
[08:42] <wnorrix> ikonia: raid 5
[08:42] <ikonia> wnorrix: what raid technology
[08:42] <naughtykid001> *newbie warning* how do I transfer file using terminal through ssh, from ubuntu to xp. I learned about scp, but no idea why there's "name or service not known" shown
[08:43] <wnorrix> ikonia: PERC5E
[08:44] <ikonia> wnorrix: what technology is that ?
[08:44] <wnorrix> ikonia: its a PowerVault MD1000
[08:44] <wnorrix> http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pvaul_md1000?c=us&cs=RC968571&l=en&s=hea
[08:44] <nbgs938> naughtykid001: you cannot use scp for copying to windows. windows has no ssh server. you must use winscp on windows to get the files from the linux machine.
[08:44] <ikonia> wnorrix: whats a powervault, the server, the card ?
[08:45] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:  there is alot of archived hits so here's a few that may help::: Graphical UI for WPA Daemon > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#GUI%20for%20WPA_Supplicant  /  Google Keyword search > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22ubuntuforums.org%22+wpa2+%3D%22HOWTO%22&btnG=Search  /or/  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22help.ubuntu.com%22+wpa2+%3D%22HOWTO%22&btnG=Search
[08:45] <wnorrix> ikonia: the server
[08:45] <wnorrix> ikonia: PERC5E is the card
[08:45] <ikonia> wnorrix: ok, so what technolgy are you using to build a raid array
[08:45] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: Thank you might.  I appreciate it quite a bit
[08:45] <ikonia> wnorrix: so your using hardware raid on that card
[08:45] <wnorrix> ikonia: we are using h/w raid
[08:46] <eviking5>  Hi everyone! I need to install a Windows prog. with wine. This is easy on my laptop/Ubuntu but my new EEE does not have a CD-ROM. Any tips on how I can "copy" the install CD to a USB key would be greatly appreciated... (I have Ubuntu EEE on the EEE and 8.04 on the laptop with CD-Drive)
[08:46] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash:   3 links / notice the ="HOWTO" and reference to "help.ubuntu.com" and "ubuntuforums.org" in quotes, good hits using that method
[08:46] <ikonia> wnorrix: I'm not aware of that card so you'll have to feed me a little info on it while I check it out
[08:46] <ingramFlash> DozedOnLinux: Indeed.  I had tried getting some google help before I came in (and there were a handful of hits on those two sites), but it just didn't help me much ;)
[08:47] <Vegombrei> hi ..i'm a noob and i need someone who understands ubuntu/linux terminology to explain a few things to me .. basically i wanna sync my blackberry with ubuntu and evolution .. since im new to linux and ubuntu i figured i'd read the forums .. anyways ive downloaded a few softwares for a certain program called barry .. but i just cant get it to install .. it says something about dependencies and stuff
[08:47] <wnorrix> ikonia: http://pastie.org/249031(a past of the info i have)
[08:48] <ikonia> wnorrix: pastebin is broke, can you use another please
[08:48] <DozedOnLinux> ingramFlash: yes i try to filter out all the junk so i get something related to what i am searching. did it for years, another one is putting minus sign before hits you dont want like > -buy   or - free   or -windows  :P
[08:49] <ackbahr> hateball: Would acl be a solution? I read it makes files created inside a folder inherit mod, but what about files copied or moved into this folder?
[08:49] <exhoho_> any body doing something about kernel configuration????
[08:49] <akatsuki> hello
[08:50] <hateball> ackbahr: Not sure it's possible to do it like I've suggested without changing umask etc. Easiest would be creating a group and set that as owner of the top directory. Then adding all users to that group.
[08:50] <naughtykid001> nbgs938: is winscp a free ware? I'm logging into ubuntu using putty and trying to transfer file from ubuntu to my xp. That is not possible?
[08:50] <wnorrix> ikonia: //rafb.net/p/9NTuQk79.html
[08:50] <Flannel> naughtykid001: Try Filezilla
[08:50] <exhoho_> kernel configuration topic ?chat with me!!
[08:51] <nbgs938> naughtykid001: winscp is free, yes. and putty is not for file transfer, only for remote login.
[08:51] <akatsuki> hello for some weird reason.. i cant delete a file... not even using cli with rmdir
[08:51] <akatsuki> i cant take it to the trash, but i cant delete completely from trash
[08:51] <ikonia> wnorrix: thank you, just looking up if thats supported by linux
[08:51] <ackbahr> hateball: what difference to setting permissions for a?
[08:51] <naughtykid001> Flannel: thanks, I'm currently exploring transfering files through command line
[08:52] <wnorrix> ikonia: cool ill google too....
[08:52] <hateball> !pm > [[cEuwe_fZz]]
[08:52] <ikonia> wnorrix: never used that card so I'm totally unaware of it
[08:52] <hateball> ackbahr: Come again?
[08:52] <wnorrix> ikonia: http://linux.dell.com/storage.shtml here is one more link
[08:52] <akatsuki> hello for some weird reason.. i cant delete a file... not even using cli with rmdir
[08:53] <Flannel> naughtykid001: scp should be accomplishable, yes.  Alhough I'm not sure on specifics
[08:53] <wnorrix> ikonia: this is the u/g http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/RAID/PERC5/en/UG/HTML/index.htm (just found it)
[08:53] <ackbahr> hateball: What is the difference between creating a group with all users and setting mod for this group OR changing mod for all other users?
[08:53] <nbgs938> Flannel: he wants to do scp from linux to windows. which will not work.
[08:53] <ackbahr> hateball: (sorry, I should have written o, not a before)
[08:54] <Flannel> nbgs938: He's doing it from windows though, I believe.  Fetching files from his Ubuntu to windows.
[08:54] <w_lin> hi, anybody using a nvidia quadro nvs-280 pci-e graphics card and can tell me, if it is shown once or twice in "lspci" output?
[08:54] <nbgs938> Flannel: no, he is logged in from windows to linux via putty. and then he tries scp in that session.
[08:54] <bodoh> any body know how to install tomcat on ubuntu?i has been try but fail
[08:54] <ikonia> wnorrix: it's a 3rd party driver
[08:54] <ikonia> wnorrix: the driver is not in the kernel
[08:55] <bodoh> please help me
[08:55] <ikonia> wnorrix: even worse, the dell supplied driver is designed for redhat and suse systems, how ironic in dell is supposed to be an ubuntu partner
[08:55] <nbgs938> ikonia: that what dell calls "supported by linux" :(
[08:56] <wnorrix> ikonia: yeah. this is pretty hard now. im talking to dell at the moment... to see if they can also help out
[08:56] <pulse00> hi all. i've a virtual server running ubuntu 8.04. when i first logged in, there was only a root user account, so i tried to add a new user using useradd. for some reason though, i don't get prompted for the user info, shouldn't it do this normally ?
[08:56] <wnorrix> ikonia: do you have a url for that driver?
[08:56] <Flannel> pulse00: useradd is low level, adduser is higher level
[08:56] <ikonia> wnorrix: to port the driver from redhat to ubuntu shouldn't be too bad, but odd that dell as a linux hardware provider would use a 3rd party driver, and that they would not package it for their linux partner distros
[08:57] <ikonia> wnorrix: it's got links in the documentation you sent me
[08:57] <mak_13> hi
[08:57] <pulse00> Flannel, sorry, i meant adduser. i tried both
[08:57] <wnorrix> cool
[08:57] <nbgs938> ikonia: i guess the manufacturer of the raid controller does not have a fully open source driver or put the driver developers under NDA.
[08:57] <mak_13> hi guys
[08:57] <dmi3on> how can i change resalution 1440x900 ?
[08:57] <Flannel> pulse00: As far as I know, add user should prompt for finger information unless you specified --gecos
[08:58] <ikonia> nbgs938: you don't know that
[08:58] <mistform> i'm runing Wine, trying to get the Verizon Music Manager to work., you know of anyone with success?
[08:58] <mak_13> can any body tell me..... gzip is making tar's ....in /var/archieves
[08:58] <mak_13> how to avoid that
[09:00] <ikonia> mak_13: what command are you using
[09:01] <dmi3on> how can i get 1440 900 resalution
[09:01] <legend2440> wnorrix: https://subtrac.sara.nl/oss/omsa_2_deb
[09:01] <cha> hyyyy
[09:01] <pvh> heya - new ubuntu 8.04 install here... i seem to be missing the man(2) manpages... which package has them?
[09:02] <nbgs938> pvh: sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[09:02] <pvh> thanks nbgs938!
[09:03] <legend2440> wnorrix: igot that link from reading these posts   http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=pv_raid&message.id=6652&query.id=164102#M6652
[09:03] <cha> hyyy
[09:03] <wnorrix> legend2440 checking
[09:03] <pvh> and, i've got bind9 installed - having some troubles with dynamic updates (permissions related), just wondering if bind chroots by default? i haven't configured it to do that...
[09:03] <utnubudnai> hey all,I want to find out record from mysql database that contains a CR，what should the sql be?
[09:04] <Msf_> umm, my 8.04 doesent reconize my monitor. Any way to get the hertz's up? x.org cfg doesent have any lines on the hert's..
[09:04] <ikonia> utnubudnai: what ?
[09:04] <ikonia> utnubudnai: what's a CR ?
[09:04] <utnubudnai> a return character!ikonia
[09:05] <ikonia> utnubudnai: why would a mysql record contain a CR ?
[09:05] <ikonia> utnubudnai: there is no keymaps in mysql
[09:05] <ikonia> utnubudnai: thats not how you alter keymaps if thats what your trying to do
[09:05] <cha> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:05] <ikonia> cha: stop
[09:05] <pvh> aaah, i think i know the problem - what's that package that restricts certain daemons? like se-linux?
[09:06] <ikonia> pvh: ubuntu doesn't use selinux
[09:06] <naughtykid001> Flannel & nbgs938: thanks
[09:06] <pvh> ikonia: yes, but it does use apparmor - and i think that's what is stopping bind from writing to journal files
[09:07] <Blice> Hi. I have composite enabled in my xorg.conf but when I run xcompmgr it gives me "No composite extension". I have four monitors and two video cards- Could that be related to the problem..?
[09:07] <utnubudnai> ikonia, well,the mysql data type is blob,so I think it should contains a return character!Now the question is how to write the sql sentence?
[09:07] <ikonia> pvh: are you using a server install
[09:07] <ikonia> utnubudnai: join #mysql for actual sql help
[09:07] <naughtykid001> nbgs938: so even I use scp in ubuntu, I still couldn't transfer file to xp right? because window don't have ssh server
[09:07] <pjvandehaar> ?
[09:07] <nbgs938> naughtykid001: yes
[09:07] <pvh> ikonia: hm, installed from our "ubuntu cd" at work - can't remember which image i wrote that from - how do i tell?
[09:07] <luther> i installed amsn and have a webcam working properly but i cant receive or send video stream, and on properties said is firewalled or behind a router does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:07] <ikonia> pvh: did it have a gui installed by default ?
[09:08] <w_lin> utnubudnai: can't you search for \r or \n ?
[09:08] <ikonia> luther: we discussed this yesterday
[09:09] <ikonia> luther: your router config/setup is the problem
[09:09] <Msf_> luther, u prolly need to open the ports from or router/firewall ;o
[09:09] <naughtykid001> nbgs938: except using ftp how do I transfer files to windows?
[09:09] <pvh> ikonia: yes, it did. but then again, so do all our servers at work (with the exception of the xen one)
[09:09] <Ramseize> hello i would like to ask something about my laptop, what do  you call the part that connects/binds the lcd Screen/monitor  and the body? hoping for your kind reply
[09:09] <ikonia> pvh: ok - so it's probably a desktop one, which means appamour is not installed by default
[09:09] <w_lin> naughtykid001: install freesshd on win, use smb-shares
[09:09] <luther> ikonia i know what you trying to say but i need to fix iy anyways and i dont know how
[09:09] <nbgs938> naughtykid001: smb or cifs, as it's the only native network filesystem on windows
[09:09] <ikonia> luther: it's not an #ubuntu support issue to fix/setup your router
[09:10] <client-10> ok
[09:10] <Ramseize> hello i would like to ask something about my laptop, what do  you call the part that connects/binds the lcd Screen/monitor  and the body? hoping for your kind reply
[09:10] <utnubudnai> w_lin, well i mean what should the sql sentence looks like?is "select * from sys_read where data contains '\r'" ok?
[09:10] <w_lin> anybody using a nvidia quadro nvs-280 pci-e graphics card and can tell me, if it is shown once or twice in "lspci" output?
[09:10] <ikonia> luther: basiclly login to your router, make sure the firewall is not blocking the ports you want, and make sure the ports you want from your machine are forwarded on your router
[09:10] <ikonia> utnubudnai: please join #mysql
[09:10] <w_lin> utnubudnai: sorry i don't speak sql :)
[09:10] <dmi3on> how do i open xrog.confg ?
[09:10] <Msf_> luther, look up ur routers model number and google example "telewel xxx + open ports" then find out what port amsn uses for webcams.
[09:10] <utnubudnai> w_lin, or something like that
[09:11] <ikonia> dmi3on: any text editor
[09:11] <dmi3on> i need change resalution to 1440 900
[09:11] <dmi3on> ikonia, command
[09:11] <dmi3on> ikonia, i cant find a command to open
[09:11] <luther> Msf_ i just dont know where to open the port on kubuntu
[09:11] <ikonia> dmi3on: sudo $texteditor (example nano) /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <pvh> ikonia: just checked - apparmor is, indeed, installed. so i must have used a server cd or something
[09:12] <Msf_> ikonia, any idea on my problem? getting the monitors hertz's up? ive looked the x.org cfg but it doesent give me any examples on the hertz's..
[09:12] <ikonia> pvh: quite possibly, whats the problem when you start th edaemon
[09:13] <pvh> ikonia: well it all makes sense now - see, i'm using dynamic updates for bind - which means bind must be allowed to write to the relevant journal files
[09:13] <luther> ikonia do you know kubuntu?
[09:13] <ikonia> Msf_: the xorg.conf file in ubuntu is minimal because it's dynamic, there are examples of parameters at http://www.x.org so you can hard code refresh rates