[05:02] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[05:02] <Maaz> nlsthzn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/" 7 hours, 24 minutes and 49 seconds ago
[05:08] <nlsthzn> Maaz: tell superfly looks good... but I was also thinking that perhaps we should just use the url to point to our wiki main page and put effort in maintaining it rather (so everyone can keep it updated and maintained)?
[05:08] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Got it, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[05:21] <bduk> More almal
[05:26] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn ThatGraemeGuy theblazehen inetpro and others too
[05:27] <Kilos> oh and Private_User
[05:27] <nlsthzn> morning
[05:28] <Private_User> morning Kilos
[05:57] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos
[05:59] <Kilos> nlsthzn: you still on kde?
[05:59] <nlsthzn> yup
[05:59] <nlsthzn> for now :p
[05:59] <Kilos> oh are you at work?
[05:59] <Kilos> stay onnit man
[05:59] <nlsthzn> nope
[05:59] <nlsthzn> home
[05:59] <Kilos> use the virtual thing for messing with new things
[06:00] <nlsthzn> its not the new things that get me to switch so much as the current thing messing up and me getting annoyed
[06:00] <nlsthzn> I do play with virtualbox a lot
[06:00] <Kilos> what release are you using?
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:01] <Kilos> wb ThatGraemeGuy wassup your connection
[06:01] <theblazehen> Wow.. Had windows on partition 1 and 2, wanted more Linux space, so I deleted the partitions, and created the Linux partition with the full size.. I rebooted, and windows still tried to boot!
[06:02] <Kilos> lol
[06:03] <Kilos> something in your grub remembered it
[06:03] <Kilos> after sudo update-grub it will be gone
[06:12] <theblazehen> Kilos: nah, I used syslinux, but that didn't even display...
[06:12] <Kilos> wow
[06:12] <theblazehen> Also, no more Linux, so no more sudo..
[06:13] <theblazehen> At least until I get a live USB to restore my backup
[06:13] <Kilos> i had one drive showed  that as well but it was grub seeing it
[06:13] <theblazehen> It just booted straight, with no options?
[06:14] <Kilos> ya then showed read error or no operating system or something stupid like that
[06:15] <Kilos> thats when you install win first on a drive and grub uses the same mbr
[06:16] <Kilos> there is a super grub iso you can get to boot from
[06:16] <Kilos> then once into your linux you can sort the grub
[06:18] <Kilos> or whatever it is you use
[06:26] <theblazehen> Ah
[06:27] <theblazehen> I now learnt that you don't have a backup until you can successfully restore.. :(
[06:27] <Kilos> lol
[06:28] <Kilos> Maaz: google super grub iso download
[06:28] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[06:28] <Kilos> eish
[06:28] <theblazehen> Kilos: my system is super broken, so it won't work
[06:28] <Kilos> no man you just messed up the mbr i think
[06:29] <Kilos> the linux os will still be there
[06:30] <theblazehen> Ya, but I deleted the partitions too. Without knowing where the Linux part starts, you can't get it back
[06:30] <Kilos> oh wait
[06:30] <theblazehen> MBR is still fine
[06:30] <Kilos> you can boot from a linux cd or stick and run testdisk
[06:31] <Kilos> ya man but in the mbr it wants to see windows
[06:31] <Kilos> first then linux
[06:31] <Kilos> testdisk will find it all and when you tell it to write it will replace everything
[06:31] <theblazehen> Kilos: in the mbr it says to load syslinux, but it didn't find syslinux.. Think it jumped to start of 1st partition
[06:32] <Kilos> lol
[06:32] <Kilos> run testdisk
[06:32] <theblazehen> Don't have anything I NEED on there
[06:32] <theblazehen> Been wanting to switch to i3
[06:32] <Kilos> oh then just reinstall from scratch if you dont have anything there you need
[06:33] <theblazehen> Will just see if I can find backup
[06:33] <Kilos> you need a pc-repair stick like i made\
[06:34] <Kilos> fuly operational 12.04 on a stick
[06:35] <theblazehen> I have arch on a disk here
[06:36] <Kilos> if there is nothing you need why worry about a backup?
[06:36] <Kilos> try boot from arch and the copy paste what you want to a stick
[06:36] <theblazehen> Takes hours to reinstall, and I have my skyrim save there.. And I forgot my Firefox sync passwors
[06:37] <theblazehen> And what I want is text files, so testdisk won't have a signature for it
[06:37] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi, morning
[06:37] <theblazehen> Hi nuvolari
[06:37] <Kilos> hi nuvolari
[06:38] <theblazehen> Oh man, my .Xresources :(
[06:38] <Kilos> testdisk foremost and scalpel can find everything
[06:38] <theblazehen> Kilos: they rely on using the signatures in files.. No signature for text
[06:38] <Kilos> but testdisk can rewrite the partitions
[06:39] <theblazehen> Ya, I can try I guess...
[06:40] <theblazehen> So I managed to give fsck a srgfault...
[06:40] <theblazehen> Segfault*
[06:41] <Kilos> fsck -f the drive
[06:41] <Kilos> ive used that to get crashed external working again
[06:41] <Kilos> i go take sheep out
[06:42] <theblazehen> It killed fsck!
[06:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> phew i dunno what you okes do to you poor PCs I've been carrying the same homedir around for years now
[06:47] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: I wanted to remove windows, so I deleted all partition, and it happens that my backup disappeared..
[06:48]  * theblazehen got it booting now..
[06:48] <Kilos> lol
[06:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't a backup if it isn't on physically separate media
[06:49] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: it was! dd|nc to another host!
[06:49] <theblazehen> But when I ran ls on the host it wasn't there now :(
[06:49] <theblazehen> Time to do it again, and verify...
[06:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> rule #2 it isn't a backup until you've verified that you can restore from it
[06:50] <theblazehen> Yeah, I get that now...
[06:50] <theblazehen> It always worked before though...
[06:54] <superfly> nlsthzn: I'm of two minds about that
[06:54] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, nlsthzn on freenode told me "tell superfly looks good... but I was also thinking that perhaps we should just use the url to point to our wiki main page and put effort in maintaining it rather (so everyone can keep it updated and maintained)?" 1 hour, 45 minutes and 44 seconds ago
[06:54] <nlsthzn> two minds, I can't even handle one >.<
[07:01] <Kilos> lol
[07:46] <Kilos> oh my, all the ibids are sick
[07:46] <Kilos> Maaz: google ubuntu
[07:46] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[07:47] <Kilos> Maaz: google google
[07:47] <Maaz> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[07:47] <Kilos> theblazehen: you broke them?
[07:48] <Kilos> the 2 on my channel also dont work
[07:48] <Kilos> they lost google connection or some funny thing
[07:49] <Kilos> oops sorry superfly good morning to you
[07:49] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:00] <theblazehen> Kilos: mine didn't work, dunno about maaz
[08:00] <theblazehen> I need to TRIM my SSD..  But people work around that
[08:04] <Kilos> ya but our bots have always worked because the dont go cause maracas
[08:05] <Kilos> they just look up things
[08:06] <theblazehen> Ya, but Google must have changed something
[08:06] <theblazehen> There is no nice api for bots to use
[08:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:07] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[08:07] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:19] <charl> good morning
[08:19] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:19]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:19] <charl> hi Kilos
[08:19] <Kilos> hi charl
[08:20] <charl> how are you doing
[08:20] <Kilos> good ty and you
[08:20] <charl> good, good
[08:20] <Kilos> our bots are sick
[08:20] <Kilos> not one of the 3 can google anymore
[08:21] <charl> oh then there is probably a change in the google api
[08:21] <charl> should be easy to solve
[08:22] <Kilos> ERROR:scripts.ibid-plugin:Exception occured in GoogleAPISearch processor of google plugin.
[08:22] <Kilos> dont just sit there, solve it
[08:23] <Kilos> 3 bots cant break same time, google musta changed something
[08:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:23] <Kilos> inetpro: check noddy
[08:24] <Kilos> and morning to you
[08:25] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:25] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[08:25] <charl> who's the maintainer of the ibid project?
[08:25] <charl> is the code somewhere on github?
[08:26] <georgl> charl:  i think it has possibly something to do with the api call
[08:26] <georgl> running a test now to see what happens
[08:26] <charl> yeah must be
[08:27] <Kilos> the weed is the maintainer but no time atm
[08:27] <charl> ah, the cannabis?
[08:28] <Kilos> maybe he can throw a pointer for us
[08:28] <Kilos> tumbleweed:
[08:28] <georgl> 'http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/search/web', params, headers
[08:28] <georgl> think maybe that has changed
[08:29] <georgl> {"responseData": null, "responseDetails": "invalid version", "responseStatus": 400}
[08:29] <Kilos> i cant get that open
[08:29] <Kilos> ya
[08:29] <Kilos> so what have they done the swines
[08:30] <georgl> swines they are not, they have possibly changed their api call for the search, and the bot now fails because google rejects it
[08:31] <Kilos> sjoe, how do we fix it
[08:31] <tumbleweed> Kilos: ah, I remember them turning off an API recently
[08:31] <georgl> anyways, when i get ime i will see if i can fix mine, but atm work is priority.
[08:31] <georgl> there is your answer
[08:31] <georgl> hi tumbleweed
[08:31] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed and georgl
[08:32] <Kilos> maybe point us to what needs doing will be good tumbleweed
[08:34] <georgl> Kilos: http://searchengineland.com/google-web-search-api-longer-available-202188
[08:35] <theblazehen> 17 GB of a 16 GB partition transfered...
[08:36] <Kilos> ai!
[08:36] <Kilos> ah you winning theblazehen
[08:36] <theblazehen> I think so...
[08:36] <theblazehen> Did backup again now
[08:36] <Kilos> haha you also got more than what should be there
[08:37] <theblazehen> Think it was the 1000 or 1024 MB in a gig thing
[08:37]  * theblazehen boots live
[08:38] <Kilos> now the bots must see the customer search api
[08:39] <Kilos> and thats limited to 100 queries a day
[08:39] <theblazehen> Kilos: ;) ya sure?
[08:40] <Kilos> what did you use theblazehen
[08:41] <theblazehen> Kilos: for bot?
[08:41] <Kilos> no to fix your drive
[08:43] <theblazehen> Ah, testdisk found partition, so I then made backup again
[08:43] <theblazehen> Now I deleted everything again
[08:43] <theblazehen> And now I'm restoring backup
[08:43] <theblazehen> 2.6 MB/s to my SSD :(
[08:44] <theblazehen> Think its bad block size I'm using
[08:44] <theblazehen> Poor ssd
[08:44] <theblazehen> Must give it a fstrim
[08:45] <theblazehen> I like the look of new gnome...
[08:47] <Kilos> testdisk rocks hey
[08:47] <Kilos> normally very slow
[08:48] <theblazehen> Not on SSD :)
[08:48] <Kilos> ah
[08:49] <Kilos> linux has wonderful tools
[08:49] <theblazehen> That up to 600MB/s read :)
[08:49] <theblazehen> Yeah, <3 linux
[08:49] <Kilos> testdisk photorec foremost and scalpel recover everythingh there
[08:49] <Kilos> they fast them ssd things
[08:50] <Kilos> but too expensive
[08:50] <theblazehen> Ya, I got 64 GB for like R900
[08:50] <theblazehen> But they getting cheaper
[08:50] <Kilos> eish i can get a 2TB drive for that
[08:51]  * theblazehen is wanting the 16 TB PCIe SSD..
[08:51] <theblazehen> Kilos: oh, where?!
[08:51]  * theblazehen gets 1TB for R750
[08:51] <Kilos> ill get you the link
[08:51]  * theblazehen is waiting for those shingled drives for a big RAID
[08:51] <theblazehen> Ty
[08:51] <Kilos> i gave it to you before man
[08:51] <theblazehen> Ah, that one
[08:51] <Kilos> my supplier\
[08:51] <theblazehen> Ty
[08:51] <Kilos> \
[08:52] <theblazehen> Have it in my mail
[08:52] <Kilos> um
[08:52] <Kilos> do you still have it?
[08:52] <theblazehen> Ya
[08:52] <theblazehen> Just gotta Ctrl f
[08:52] <theblazehen> Or, actually grep
[08:52] <Kilos> i paid 600 and some for 1TB
[08:53] <theblazehen> Nice. Which brand?
[08:53] <Kilos> 2 TB R969
[08:53] <Kilos> seagate
[08:53] <theblazehen> Ah...
[08:54]  * theblazehen is a western digital guy
[08:54] <Kilos> drives are drives
[08:54] <Kilos> i have as many scrap wd's as seagates
[08:55] <theblazehen>  Ya, but Seagate failed more often
[08:55] <theblazehen> I worry when my raid is degraded
[08:56]  * theblazehen must learn BSD so I can use ZFS...
[08:57] <Kilos> Maaz: yahoo google
[08:57] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[08:57] <Kilos> hehe
[08:58] <Kilos> i spose yahoo also needs an api thing
[08:58] <theblazehen> Lol
[08:58]  * theblazehen loves Zelda music..
[09:08] <Kilos> nlsthzn: is the membership approval group the same ones that did the re-verification?
[09:14] <nlsthzn> I believe in this case yes... there are different ways to get it and depending on how you apply a different council decides
[09:15] <nlsthzn> for me it was the forum council
[09:40] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:48] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[09:48] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell magespawn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/" 12 hours, 11 minutes and 26 seconds ago
[09:53] <superfly> magespawn: I'm thinking of using Nikola
[09:54] <superfly> http://getnikola.com
[09:57] <magespawn> this is for the ubuntu-za webiste, superfly ?
[09:57] <superfly> magespawn: ya
[10:01] <magespawn> are you looking at have more than one person looking after it?
[10:04] <superfly> magespawn: yes
[10:05] <magespawn> you know the systems best i think, so what ever has the least learning curve
[10:07] <magespawn> i can help, and like i said i like learning but other might not
[10:07] <Kilos> lol
[10:09] <Kilos> i can help. ill check spelling hehe
[10:12] <superfly> magespawn: I think using Nikola would be easiest. It's a static site generator. So it makes .html files, but uses a templating system, and you write your content in a simple format called reStructuredText (it's similar to Markdown)
[10:20] <magespawn> i see superfly,can you edit the .html afterwards or should you always go through Nikola?
[10:24] <magespawn> the mark up text used has to learnt but it seems relatively straight forward
[10:58] <magespawn> man, i think iam in over my head here a bit with mikrotik
[11:12] <Kilos> thats the wifi stuff right?
[11:13] <Kilos> or wireless
[11:13] <Kilos> you doing so well magespawn vasbyt man
[11:14] <Kilos> talk to one of the wugs for help
[11:26] <magespawn> i can vasbyt, but the office needs an internet connection
[11:31] <charl> dot capetown - very cool
[11:36] <magespawn> hi charl
[11:37] <magespawn> i wonder how long before people start with the sex.capetown etc
[11:39] <charl> hi magespawn
[11:39] <charl> or capetown.sex
[11:39] <superfly> magespawn: always through nikola
[11:57] <magespawn> superfly is that done locally, on your laptop and then uploaded to the site?
[11:57] <superfly> yes
[11:57] <magespawn> so then Nikola would act a little like a editing program?
[11:59] <superfly> no, it's more like a script to build and then upload your site
[11:59] <superfly> you edit your site using a text editor (Kate supports reStructuredText syntax highlighting)
[12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> MS Word ftw!
[12:17] <magespawn> that would then limit the people who could/would do the updates to those who how and those who can/want to learn
[12:17] <superfly> yes, so a few people would be able to do it
[12:21] <magespawn> i see there are number of editors that support it
[12:21] <superfly> as in, it's only limited by who wants to learn
[12:22] <magespawn> that i have found is one of most prevelent limiting factors in the world
[12:28] <superfly> magespawn: in this case, it's probably a good one.
[12:32] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: LaTeX FTW!
[12:32] <magespawn> indeed, it will prevent a mess being made of the page
[12:33]  * Kilos looks around
[12:33] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:33] <Kilos> ya right channel
[12:34] <Kilos> MS Word ftw!
[12:34] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:34] <magespawn> i have never really undertsood LaTex
[12:34] <magespawn> i think there may have a been a touch of sarcasm there
[12:34] <Kilos> lol
[12:35] <Kilos> ya he likes teasing
[12:35] <Kilos> what are you guys doing superfly magespawn making us a new site or what
[12:36] <superfly> Kilos: yes
[12:36] <Kilos> is our old one broken?
[12:36] <superfly> and disused and too much for what we can currently handle
[12:37] <Kilos> aha
[12:43] <magespawn> would this be a group decision?
[12:44] <Kilos> nope
[12:44] <Kilos> the fly can do what the fly can do
[12:45] <Kilos> and you can help too
[12:45] <superfly> magespawn: I'm open to suggestion, but this is a do-ocracy.
[12:45] <Kilos> hehe
[12:45] <superfly> And so far no one has done anything :-P except me :-P
[12:45] <Kilos> superfly: you the boss
[12:46] <Kilos> if you make it easy like a wiki page i can help a bit
[12:58] <Kilos> me reading the manual
[12:58] <Kilos> superfly: is it python 2.6 and later or just 2.6?
[12:59] <superfly> Kilos: 2.6 or later, but I'm using Python 3.4
[12:59] <Kilos> ah cool. he didnt state that
[13:08] <Kilos> oh he does further down
[13:26] <Kilos> oh nikola is in our repos
[13:34] <Kilos> magespawn: are you doing it?
[13:58] <magespawn> sure
[13:58] <magespawn> superfly your server? or was clug?
[13:58] <superfly> I've got something started in Nikola at home, gonna see if I can get a basic site up and running, and then I'll push it up to Launchpad.
[13:59] <superfly> magespawn: the clug server
[13:59] <Kilos> do you install t5he stuffs then edit a site or make your own page thing
[14:00] <Kilos> i see me battling with python and vim again sigh
[14:00] <magespawn> the way i understand it, you intall Nikola on your pc, do the site there and upload it to the server
[14:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:01] <Kilos> doesnt sound right to me
[14:01] <Kilos> surely one needs a site already there and then you add stuffs etc
[14:01] <magespawn> you need a web server to upload the site to
[14:02] <magespawn> that is what apache does
[14:02] <Kilos> as in a host?
[14:02] <Kilos> like the wiki
[14:03] <magespawn> the host is the person/company the provides the webserver either as a physical or virtual machine
[14:03] <Kilos> like anyone can go edit the wiki if they are members
[14:04] <magespawn> that is a function built into the wiki and by the people who look after it
[14:04] <Kilos> oh arent websites the same
[14:04] <magespawn> pretty much a wiki is a type of website
[14:06] <Kilos> oh
[14:07] <magespawn> as in both will run on a webserver, which is both the software and hardware
[14:08] <Kilos> so that server there is the same kind of thing i nstalled on other pc here?
[14:08] <Kilos> isnt a server a server
[14:09] <magespawn> basically yes, probably much better hardware
[14:09] <Kilos> of course ya
[14:09] <Kilos> and stays online full time
[14:09] <magespawn> and the software server may be spread across several physical machines
[14:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:10] <magespawn> i gotta go check this wireless link from the other side bbl
[14:10] <Kilos> good luck
[14:11] <magespawn> thanks cheers
[14:24]  * nuvolari yawns
[14:24] <nuvolari> I wanna go gome
[14:33] <Kilos> hehe
[14:33] <Kilos> lang dag weer seun?
[14:33] <Kilos> vroer gaan slaap in die aand man
[14:55] <inetpro> good afternoon
[15:25] <Kilos> afternoon inetpro
[17:28] <Kilos> inetpro: why havent you applied for ubuntu membership?
[17:28] <Kilos> ohi gremble wb
[17:28] <Kilos> where you been
[17:29] <gremble> Congratulations on getting verified again
[17:29] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[17:29] <Kilos> ty
[17:29] <gremble> Out and about
[17:29] <Kilos> oh we got a serious job for you
[17:29] <Kilos> no rest for the wicked
[17:29] <gremble> Oh?
[17:30] <gremble> As long as it is not webdev, I could try and manage
[17:30] <Kilos> google killed our bots with an api thing they stopped
[17:30] <gremble> ibid?
[17:30] <Kilos> ya
[17:30] <Kilos> lemme scroll back
[17:31] <Kilos> http://searchengineland.com/google-web-search-api-longer-available-202188
[17:31] <Kilos> so since this morning the bots cant google anymore
[17:32] <Kilos> Maaz: google google.com
[17:32] <Maaz> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[17:32] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <gremble> Ok, I will have a look
[17:33] <Kilos> ty
[17:34] <gremble> I won't be able to fix it if the API is completely dead though
[17:34] <gremble> Duckduckgo has a similar api though
[17:34] <gremble> So all is not lost
[17:34] <Kilos> yay
[17:35] <Kilos> i looked today at alternative search engines but dunno what they can all do
[17:35] <Kilos> does that duck thing work with google
[17:35] <theblazehen> Kilos: tried duck duck go?
[17:35] <gremble> Sort of
[17:35] <theblazehen> Ah, yes. Kinda
[17:36] <theblazehen> My RAID:(
[17:36] <Kilos> i think google is getting to powerful
[17:36] <gremble> It is a metasearch engine. It searches through various searchengines to bring you the appopriate results
[17:36] <theblazehen> Gone real slow, can't reboot now :/
[17:36] <gremble> But without the tracking capabilities that google/yahoo/bing etc has
[17:36] <Kilos> oh my theblazehen what did you do
[17:37] <Kilos> i read something about bing a while back, someone dropped them or something
[17:37] <theblazehen> Kilos: not my fault.. Think HDD is dying
[17:37] <Kilos> ouch
[17:38] <Kilos> most likely near the beginning
[17:38] <Kilos> you can use disk utility to check it or gparted
[17:38] <gremble> I got an I/O error on this hdd yesterday
[17:38] <Kilos> the gparted was is quite cool
[17:38] <gremble> It seems to be working fine today
[17:38] <gremble> But I think that this laptop is dying
[17:38] <gremble> :/
[17:39] <Kilos> run badblocks
[17:39] <Kilos> lemme get you the command
[17:39] <theblazehen> Kilos: what's that do?
[17:39] <Kilos> sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result
[17:39] <Kilos> that will tell you if there are any
[17:40] <Kilos> i have a further command that lets fsck remember them and add new ones
[17:40] <theblazehen> Ah
[17:41] <theblazehen> Does it destroy data?
[17:41] <Kilos> nope read only
[17:41] <theblazehen> Hmm.. Kk
[17:41] <Kilos> After executing the above command it will generate the file bad-blocks-result in the current directory where you executed this command. Now, you can pass this file to the fsck command to record these bad blocks.
[17:41] <Kilos> sudo fsck -t ext4 -l bad-blocks-result /dev/sda1
[17:43] <gremble> Kilos: that link you linked said the API retired in August already
[17:43] <Kilos> nope it turned off this morning
[17:43] <gremble> "The service will cease operations on September 29th, 2014."
[17:44] <Kilos> the weed gave me that link so i could know why ibids were sick
[17:46] <gremble> Hmm the API they want us to use instead does not look very nice. It is for websites that want to run custom search engines on the site
[17:46] <Kilos> its another scheme of theirs for more control i think
[17:47] <Kilos> if you can make ibids bing stuff thats cool too
[17:47] <gremble> Ok then tinfoil hat... It is probably a scheme to make more money instead
[17:47] <Kilos> yip only 100 queries a day
[17:48] <Kilos> then most likely they will want payment for more
[17:49] <gremble> The issue isn't that, it is more the database for information.
[17:49] <Kilos> i dont understand all of that, thats why i asked you
[17:50] <Kilos> i dont see a reason for them dropping that api
[18:02] <theblazehen> So my floppy controller died...
[18:03] <gremble> Floppies arent to be controlled!
[18:03] <gremble> They want to reach out into the world and become stiffies
[18:03] <Kilos> where you get floppies in lappies?
[18:03] <gremble> For those who don't know, that was a penis joke.
[18:03] <Kilos> haha ya stiffies
[18:04] <Kilos> i actually have an external usb stiffy drive
[18:07] <Kilos> oh my, we worked him to death
[18:08] <inetpro> ok, how do I setup a test instance of ibid?
[18:08]  * inetpro has forked and cloned the github repo
[18:09] <Kilos> ibid-setup
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, but what if I want to isolate it first?
[18:10] <Kilos> isolate it from where?
[18:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:11] <Kilos> wb gremble
[18:11] <Kilos> i thought we worked you to death
[18:11] <gremble> The plug into which my laptop was plugged doesnt have electricity >.>
[18:11] <Kilos> eish
[18:12] <gremble> These dogs are so tired from an entire day of sleeping, that they are all sleeping
[18:12] <Kilos> dogs should be fed in the morning if you want them awake at night
[18:13] <Kilos> you can try red bull. maybe they cant sleep when flying
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, lemme forget about isolating for a moment... is ibid-setup really the first command you run after downloading from source?
[18:15] <inetpro> guess the INSTALL file is a bit outdated
[18:15] <Kilos> you mean after its installed
[18:15] <inetpro> no I don't install from source
[18:15] <inetpro> I mean I don't install from PPA
[18:15] <Kilos> you want to run it without installing?
[18:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:15] <inetpro> I effectively just downloaded the source
[18:16] <Kilos> sjoe gremble help the pro
[18:16] <Kilos> i use .debs they work
[18:16] <Kilos> oh
[18:17] <Kilos> i once looked up installing packages from source on ubuntu
[18:17] <Kilos> but used maaz to google for me
[18:18] <inetpro> where is tumbleweed when we need him?
[18:18] <Kilos> he is here
[18:18] <Kilos> tumbles!!
[18:18] <Kilos> not lunch time there yet
[18:19] <Kilos> i see they made a series of silcon valley
[18:19] <Kilos> maybe we get to see the weed and crash kid
[18:20] <gremble> I haven't installed ibid
[18:20] <gremble> I just downloaded the code
[18:20]  * inetpro don't want to install for the long run, just want to test and see if I can get the basics going from a dev point of view
[18:21] <gremble> Haven't even done that. I have python3.4 on this system, it doesnt play nice with ibid and I don't know how to get a virtual environment in which I can run 2.7
[18:21] <inetpro> playing around with git as well to try and understand all that as well
[18:21] <Kilos> man install it then just copy ibid.db and the other one before you remove it again
[18:22] <Kilos> 12.04 gremble
[18:22] <theblazehen> Ouch.  Think motherboard dying
[18:23] <Kilos> the python 3.4 is too new methinks inetpro
[18:23] <Kilos> eish
[18:23] <theblazehen> Says floppy controller broken, beeps, then shows blank screen
[18:23] <Kilos> ibids ran well on 2.7
[18:23] <theblazehen> Maybe it'll work tomorrow
[18:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:24] <theblazehen> Its only 7 years old :(
[18:24] <Kilos> eish
[18:24] <theblazehen> And my old PC doesn't have sata ports :(
[18:24] <Kilos> you get converters
[18:25] <Kilos> ide/sata converter
[18:25] <Kilos> hi captine
[18:25] <captine> evening
[18:25] <theblazehen> Ya, but I have 1 ide port only.. And 3 drivea
[18:25] <inetpro> theblazehen: have you started modifying ibid yet?
[18:25] <theblazehen> Drives*
[18:26] <theblazehen> inetpro: only a little. gremble got further
[18:26] <captine> quick one.  Anyone here played around with MAAS?  Am trying to decide if I am going to load proxmox for managing containers and VM's. or rather attempt to use MAAS and Juju... only have a single mac mini server to run it all on
[18:26] <theblazehen> Kilos: also old PC won't boot from usb
[18:26] <Kilos> sjoe theblazehen you also get and external thing that works from use to ide or sata
[18:26] <theblazehen> captine: didn't use Maas, but +1 for proxmox
[18:27] <inetpro> theblazehen: what is you githib username?
[18:27] <theblazehen> Kilos: ya, I know. But maybe a cheap mitx board might be good
[18:27] <inetpro> github?
[18:27] <theblazehen> inetpro: I didn't submit a PR. Just pulled it from launchpad. Check out what gremble did
[18:27] <captine> thanks theblazehen .  I was leaning towards that...
[18:27] <theblazehen> I couldn't get github version to run
[18:28] <theblazehen> captine: did you look at ovirt too? How about ESXi?
[18:28] <inetpro> I looked at gremble's changes
[18:28] <theblazehen> Yeah, he did way more than me
[18:29] <gremble> I think I finished the plugin, but it is at home. Haven't pushed it yet
[18:29] <gremble> :x
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro: noddy sick as well?
[18:29] <inetpro> Kilos: obvious
[18:30] <captine> no.  didnt look at those.
[18:30] <Kilos> eish
[18:30] <inetpro> but I don't really use that functionality, doesn't bother me that much
[18:30] <Kilos> major catastrophe
[18:30] <inetpro> no man
[18:30] <Kilos> i live on the bots man
[18:30] <Kilos> google isnt my friend
[18:31] <gremble> ddg just wants me to fix their Instant Answer plugin when I go look at their API's
[18:31] <captine> theblazehen,  would prefer proxmox over esxi... feels better to me in terms of being open source etc.  not being super technical, the proxmox option looks pretty easy to use from what i have seen
[18:31] <gremble> >.>
[18:31] <Kilos> bots google 4 or five links
[18:31] <Kilos> browser gets 500\
[18:31] <captine> theblazehen, thought of installing 4 ubuntu vms and mimicking an ubuntu MAAS setup using the VMs.
[18:31] <theblazehen> captine: yeah, im currently using plain virt manager on Ubuntu now
[18:32] <theblazehen> Ah
[18:32] <captine> i have virtualbox on my laptop, but am wanting to change to virt manager
[18:33] <theblazehen> BTW I couldn't get that to work with proxmox...
[18:35] <captine> theblazehen, ??? getting MAAS to work?
[18:35] <captine> in vms
[18:35] <theblazehen> captine: sorry, couldn't get virt manager to work with proxmox
[18:36] <captine> ah
[18:39] <Kilos> lemme boot from my pc-repair stick and see if ibid still works on 12.04
[18:39] <Kilos> wbb
[18:49] <Kilos> eish
[18:49] <Kilos> i killed my stick with boot-repairs today
[18:49] <Kilos> domdonner
[18:50]  * Kilos cries
[18:51] <gremble> How is it killed Kilos?
[18:51] <Kilos> i told it to install grub to the wrong mbr
[18:52] <Kilos> so now it cant boot but ill fix that from here tomorrow
[18:54] <gremble> Ah ok
[18:55] <Kilos> i have a 12.04 xubuntu on other pc, will see if i get that to see if ibid works there
[19:04] <Kilos> wbb hopefully from the stick
[19:04] <superfly> inetpro: ping
[19:05] <inetpro> superfly: pong
[19:05] <superfly> inetpro: install "nikola" :-)
[19:05] <inetpro> did install it, but haven't played with it yet
[19:06] <inetpro> too much reading
[19:07] <inetpro> superfly: next step?
[19:07] <superfly> inetpro: wait for me, I'm busy getting the basics of the site done
[19:08] <inetpro> ok
[19:09]  * inetpro also just installed virtualbox on 14.04 and getting ubuntu server installed to play around with locally
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: don't need ubuntu server
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: nikola server -> localhost:8000
[19:11] <superfly> *nikola serve
[19:11] <theblazehen> inetpro: have you tried using KVM? I use that and virt manager, works nice
[19:12] <inetpro> theblazehen: yes
[19:13] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... mine didn't start the daemon after installation
[19:14] <inetpro> I need to do something to start it?
[19:14] <superfly> inetpro: it doesn't
[19:14] <superfly> yes, but not yet
[19:14] <inetpro> oh
 inetpro: wait for me, I'm busy getting the basics of the site done
[19:14] <superfly> :-)
[19:15] <inetpro> just doing the virtualbox for something else anyway
[19:15] <inetpro> guess I should have done KVM rather
[19:23] <gremble> I am sitting with a coffee machine five steps away from me and I keep making coffee one cup at a time
[19:24] <gremble> Sometimes I think that there is something wrong with me
[19:24] <gremble> Other times, I am fairly sure that there is
[19:25] <Kilos> eish i get so angry with unity and lightdm
[19:26] <Kilos> had to ctrl+alt+F3 then login and install gdm
[19:26] <Kilos> but still working
[19:26] <Kilos> stick
[19:27] <gremble> Unity often gets angry at itself
[19:27] <Kilos> yeah and keeps rebooting to login password
[19:27] <Kilos> only installing gdm fixes that
[19:28] <Kilos> some bug in lightdm
[19:29] <Kilos> installing ibid now
[19:34] <Kilos> ya installed fine
[19:35] <Kilos> hi qa_
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: what version os?
[19:35] <Kilos> qa_, hi
[19:35] <qa_> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[19:35] <Kilos> 12.04
[19:35] <inetpro> ahh
[19:36] <Kilos> this is on my pc-repair stick
[19:36] <Kilos> remember that
[19:37] <magespawn> good evening
[19:37] <Kilos> thats the only thing ive ever done successfully
[19:37] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[19:37] <magespawn> and what is that Kilos ?
[19:37] <Kilos> pc-repair stick
[19:38] <Kilos> fully installed upgraded 12.04 with all the boot-repair tools and data recovery tools
[19:39] <Kilos> maybe i should make that my contribution to ubuntu then they can make me a member
[19:39] <Kilos> can be used to fix all crashed drives
[19:39] <Kilos> unless they dead that is
[19:40] <magespawn> i would definately make it permenant thing though Kilos
[19:40] <Kilos> huh?
[19:42] <Kilos> qa_, google google
[19:42] <qa_> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[19:42] <Kilos> eish
[19:42] <gremble> Won't work if the API is dead
[19:42] <gremble> :P
[19:42]  * Kilos curses google
[19:42] <gremble> duckduckgo doesn't have a search API
[19:42] <gremble> only an "instant answers" one
[19:42] <magespawn> as in keep doing it, keep it up to date
[19:42] <gremble> So no search results
[19:43] <Kilos> ai!
[19:43] <Kilos> bing? or yahoo
[19:43] <gremble> Dunno, haven't checked.
[19:43] <gremble> I have never searched with bing or yahoo
[19:44] <gremble> I used to search for porn on dogpile in my youth
[19:44] <Kilos> who runs google? an old ms employee
[19:44] <Kilos> hahaha in your youth
[19:44] <Kilos> does dogpile have a search api
[19:44] <gremble> I have no idea
[19:45] <gremble> I don't even know whether it exists anymore
[19:45] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[19:45] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:48] <Kilos> inetpro, WAYTTD
[19:48] <Kilos> hee hee
[19:48] <inetpro> Kilos: just getting my testing server ready first
[19:49] <Kilos> whats os server?
[19:49] <inetpro> damn thing needs way too much data for updates though
[19:49] <Kilos> eish
[19:49] <superfly> Kilos: what's UbuntuZA twitter account?
[19:49] <Kilos> i still have over 4g of 12.04
[19:49] <inetpro> but it's ok... will survive
[19:49] <inetpro> superfly: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza
[19:49] <Kilos> um
[19:50] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[19:50] <superfly> thanks inetpro
[19:50] <inetpro> it's in the topic
[19:50] <superfly> and Fakebook?
[19:50] <superfly> on there, it is
[19:50] <inetpro> hmm....
[19:51] <Kilos> i dont know who started the fb ubuntu za
[19:51] <inetpro> superfly: would that be the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza ?
[19:51] <superfly> ja, got it
[19:53] <inetpro> superfly: g+ https://plus.google.com/+Ubuntu-zaOrg
[19:54] <Kilos> ah things looking promisinf for our new site
[19:54] <Kilos> promising
[19:55] <Kilos> when fly wants info he is working hard
[19:56] <Kilos> playing minetest ThatGraemeGuy ?
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: I got almost 10mbps for a few moments earlier this evening
[20:00] <Kilos> ya its weird goes to 14 at times but only bits of an update
[20:01] <Kilos> others drop to 400kB/s
[20:02] <Kilos> i dont know how that can be though because this modem is 7 mb/s
[20:02] <Kilos> so how can it do 14 mb/s
[20:03] <superfly> https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/+junk/ubuntuza-site
[20:03] <superfly> inetpro: ^^
[20:04] <inetpro> superfly: downloading
[20:04] <inetpro> done
[20:04] <superfly> inetpro: k, unpacked?
[20:05] <inetpro> explain unpacked
[20:05]  * inetpro did:      bzr branch lp:~raoul-snyman/+junk/ubuntuza-site
[20:05] <superfly> ah
[20:05] <superfly> ok, in "ubuntuza-site"
[20:05] <superfly> run "nikola build && nikola serve"
[20:06] <superfly> then open your browser to http://localhost:8000/
[20:06]  * superfly gets some coffee
[20:08] <inetpro> superfly: http://slexy.org/raw/s2GcZGVxWQ
[20:08] <theblazehen> Kilos: what you downloading?
[20:09] <Kilos> me nothing theblazehen
[20:09] <theblazehen> Kilos: with the 14mbit thing, maybe its compressed stuff?
[20:09] <Kilos> we were just talking about high speeds at times
[20:10] <Kilos> oh it was updates
[20:10] <Kilos> or upgrades im not sure anymore
[20:10] <theblazehen> Ah, yeah, shouldn't happen...
[20:10] <superfly> inetpro: sudo apt-get install python-dateutil
[20:10] <superfly> inetpro: I never got that error
[20:12] <inetpro> superfly: next one
[20:12] <inetpro> http://slexy.org/raw/s20vyVTRoX
[20:17] <inetpro> btw, got that now after installing python-dateutil
[20:18] <superfly> inetpro: please tell me the output of "nikola --version"
[20:19] <inetpro> Nikola version 6.2.1
[20:19] <inetpro> from the standard 14.04 repo
[20:19] <superfly> ah
[20:20] <superfly> you need at least 7.0
[20:20] <inetpro> ai!
[20:20] <superfly> inetpro: sudo apt-get install virtualenv
[20:20] <inetpro> nou praat ons
[20:21] <inetpro> hmm
[20:21] <inetpro> Couldn't find package "virtualenv".  However, the following
[20:21] <inetpro> packages contain "virtualenv" in their name:
[20:21] <inetpro>   python-virtualenv virtualenv-clone dh-virtualenv virtualenvwrapper
[20:21] <superfly> ah
[20:21] <superfly> python-virtualenv
[20:22] <superfly> once that's done, "virtualenv --system-site-packages venv"
[20:22] <superfly> then "./venv/bin/pip install nikola"
[20:22] <superfly> oh wait, you probably need "./venv/bin/pip install --upgrade nikola"
[20:22] <inetpro> havimng to install a few packages
[20:23] <inetpro> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[20:23] <inetpro>   build-essential{a} dpkg-dev{a} g++{a} g++-4.8{a} libalgorithm-diff-perl{a} libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl{a} libalgorithm-merge-perl{a}
[20:23] <inetpro>   libstdc++-4.8-dev{a} python-colorama{a} python-distlib{a} python-html5lib{a} python-pip{a} python-setuptools{a} python-virtualenv
[20:23] <superfly> yes
[20:23] <inetpro> done
[20:23] <inetpro> superfly: I do the above from within that folder of yours or does it not matter?
[20:24] <superfly> outside the folder
[20:25] <inetpro> ok what does virtualenv do?
[20:25] <gremble_> It is a virtual environment for python
[20:25] <gremble_> So that you don't install packages systemwide
[20:25] <inetpro> ok
[20:26] <inetpro> superfly: done
[20:26] <superfly> what gremble_ said :-)
[20:26] <superfly> inetpro: now you might want to create a symlink in ubuntuza-site to venv/bin/nikola
[20:27] <superfly> inetpro: but basically, go into the ubuntuza-site folder and run /path/to/venv/bin/nikola build
[20:27] <superfly> (with the symlink it'll be easier: "./nikola build")
[20:28] <inetpro> where do I find this venv?
[20:29] <inetpro> ⟫ virtualenv --system-site-packages venv
[20:29] <inetpro> New python executable in venv/bin/python
[20:29] <inetpro> Installing setuptools, pip...done.
[20:30] <superfly> hey hey https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[20:30] <superfly> inetpro: right there where you created it
[20:30] <inetpro> oh, hang on.. I see it now
[20:31] <inetpro> I made mistake
[20:31] <superfly> oh?
[20:31] <inetpro> installed nikola from pip outside of the venv
[20:31] <superfly> are you sure? did you have to use sudo?
[20:32] <inetpro> no
[20:32] <superfly> if you didn't use sudo, you didn't install it system-wide
[20:32] <superfly> what's the output?
[20:32] <inetpro> http://slexy.org/raw/s2ir48JImt
[20:33] <superfly> inetpro: it did nothing
[20:33] <inetpro> ahh
 oh wait, you probably need "./venv/bin/pip install --upgrade nikola"
[20:34] <inetpro> ok, wait... downloading and installing now
[20:34] <inetpro> eish
[20:35] <Kilos> wat?
[20:36] <Kilos> big download?
[20:36] <inetpro> more errors
[20:36] <inetpro> superfly: http://slexy.org/view/s20mN1R1GV
[20:36] <Kilos> ai!
[20:38] <superfly> inetpro: sudo apt-get install python-lxml python-pil
[20:38]  * superfly writes all of these down in a README.rst file
[20:39] <inetpro> Need to get 0 B of archives.
[20:39] <inetpro> superfly: those are installed already
[20:41] <superfly> inetpro: OK, let's try this instead
[20:42] <superfly> ./venv/bin/pip install 'nikola>=7.0'
[20:42] <inetpro> installing
[20:43] <inetpro> nope... just about the same end result
[20:43] <inetpro> error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
[20:45] <magespawn> is this all to run nikola?
[20:46] <inetpro> aptitude search '~i gcc'
[20:46] <inetpro> i A gcc                                                           - GNU C compiler
[20:46] <inetpro> i A gcc-4.8                                                       - GNU C compiler
[20:46] <inetpro> i   gcc-4.8-base                                                  - GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[20:46] <inetpro> i   gcc-4.9-base                                                  - GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[20:46] <inetpro> i A lib32gcc1                                                     - GCC support library (32 bit Version)
[20:46] <inetpro> i A libgcc-4.8-dev                                                - GCC support library (development files)
[20:46] <inetpro> i   libgcc1
[20:46] <inetpro> sorry for the spam
[20:47] <superfly> magespawn: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[20:47] <superfly> inetpro: install python-dev
[20:48] <gremble_> What are we trying to do, just for interests sake
[20:48] <inetpro> ahh
[20:48] <magespawn> 14.02
[20:48] <superfly> gremble_: we're moving to a static site for ubuntu-za.org, and using nikola to generate it
[20:48] <magespawn> sorry 14.04
[20:49] <gremble_> Oh ok
[20:49] <gremble_> Is it nicer than Jekyll? or just different
[20:49] <superfly> gremble_: for one, it's written in Python
[20:49] <superfly> gremble_: it uses reStructuredText, which I prefer over Markdown
[20:50] <superfly> gremble_: and (big one for me) it comes with a Twitter Bootstrap theme right out of the box
[20:50] <superfly> which means it's already responsive
[20:50] <gremble_> Oh ok
[20:50] <inetpro> superfly: done... trying to install nikola 7.0 again
[20:51] <inetpro> uh oh... nope
[20:51] <superfly> output?
[20:51] <inetpro> coming
[20:52] <inetpro> http://slexy.org/view/s2I90Wesnf
[20:53] <superfly> inetpro: ah, you need the development versions of some libraries installed
[20:53] <charl> good evening
[20:54] <inetpro> superfly: ok
[20:54] <Kilos> hi charl
[20:54] <charl> hi Kilos
[20:54] <Kilos> ssshhhhh
[20:54] <inetpro> hi charl
[20:54] <superfly> lemme get them for you
[20:54] <charl> hi inetpro
[20:54] <Kilos> they sorting serious things here tonight
[20:55] <inetpro> Kilos: very serious
[20:55] <charl> as we say in dutch, goed bezig
[20:55] <superfly> inetpro: sudo apt-get install libxslt1-dev libxml2-dev
[20:56] <inetpro> done... trying again
[20:57] <inetpro> ai!
[20:58] <inetpro> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[20:59] <inetpro> superfly: http://slexy.org/view/s20IsyljWD
[20:59] <gremble_> Nikola looks nice. but with Githubs free hosting and allowing you to get your own domain and use it there, that is much more convenient for me :P
[21:01] <inetpro> superfly: I have 64 bit 14.04.1 installed
[21:02] <inetpro> could that perhaps be a mixup of 32bit vs 64bit libs?
[21:02] <superfly> unlikely
[21:02] <inetpro> ok
[21:03] <superfly> it looks like a missing library, but since I've never had to build lxml myself, I really don't know. I'm looking at the docs, and they're not very helpful either
[21:07] <inetpro> cannot find -lz
[21:08] <inetpro> isn't that supposed to be some z library of sorts?
[21:09] <inetpro> like libz
[21:10] <superfly> ja, that's my guess
[21:10] <superfly> but I can't find anything specific on it
[21:11] <inetpro> installing zlib1g-dev
[21:13] <inetpro> \o/
[21:14] <inetpro> superfly: http://slexy.org/view/s21jRqcpg5
[21:14] <inetpro> it worked
[21:14] <superfly> yay!
[21:14] <superfly> that was too much effort -_-
[21:15] <inetpro> now where do I go next?
[21:15] <inetpro> that zlib thing looked very familiar from days of yonder on solaris
[21:16] <superfly> go into the ubuntuza-site directory again
[21:16] <superfly> and run "/path/to/venv/bin/nikola build"
[21:17] <superfly> (or symlink it: "ln -s /path/to/venv/bin/nikola /path/to/ubuntuza-site/nikola" and then "./nikola build")
[21:17] <inetpro> ubuntuza-site⟫ ../venv/bin/nikola build
[21:17] <inetpro> done
[21:18] <superfly> then ../venv/bin/nikola serve
[21:18] <inetpro> yay!!!
[21:19] <inetpro> cool
[21:21]  * inetpro tired now
[21:23] <superfly> me too, I think bed is in order
[21:23] <magespawn> superfly does it have to be nikola 7?
[21:23] <superfly> magespawn: yes.
[21:24] <magespawn> okay cool, the repo version seems to 6.2
[21:25] <Kilos> that was lots of work
[21:25] <superfly> ya
[21:25] <superfly> I'm writing up instructions
[21:25] <Kilos> then you still have to learn how to use it
[21:26] <magespawn> cool beans superfly
[21:26] <Kilos> and you guys go to work in a few hours
[21:26] <Kilos> ai!
[21:26] <inetpro> once the problems are known it will be easy, I think
[21:27] <magespawn> i have got the 6.2 installed and the demo site setup so i should be able to follow your instructions
[21:28] <inetpro> very interesting indeed
[21:29] <magespawn> that is why we let you guys do it first
[21:29] <Kilos> haha govt wont get much outa you tomorrow pro
[21:29] <Kilos> when do you go on leave?
[21:30] <gremble_> https://i.imgur.com/o7NpWVq.gif I laughed way too much.
[21:30] <inetpro> superfly: in your .bzrignore you have an entry .doit.db.db
[21:30] <inetpro> should that not be just .doit.db ?
[21:31] <Kilos> haha too funny
[21:31] <Kilos> ive seen that with wheel barrows of concrete
[21:32] <superfly> inetpro: in my folder it was .db.db
[21:32] <superfly> weird, I know
[21:32] <inetpro> ok, I just see a .db file here
[21:33] <magespawn> a couple of things come to mind like ouch, 'let go'
[21:35] <Kilos> hehe
[21:36] <Kilos> it all depends on how big the bosses whip is
[21:36] <Kilos> qa_, die
[21:36] <gremble_> He even tucks in his knees to clear the pallet handle
[21:36] <gremble_> :P
[21:38] <Kilos> night all of you. sleep tight
[21:41] <inetpro> good night
[21:43] <magespawn> good night all
[21:47] <superfly> Maaz: tell magespawn http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+junk/ubuntuza-site/view/head:/README.rst
[21:47] <Maaz> superfly: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[21:48] <superfly> inetpro: bzr pull lp:~ubuntu-za/+junk/ubuntuza-site --remember


 FTBFS (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <mitya57> Uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebengine-opensource-src/5.15.2+dfsg-3ubuntu1 which should fix all glibc 2.33 issues)
 retrying over night
 it was a OOM on amd64
 Thanks! amd64 built fine now
 notepadqq also passed its armhf against it https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/notepadqq/hirsute/armhf
 Great!


[04:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:19] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[19:52] <immuda> !cmd
[19:52] <immuda> !version
[19:52] <oerheks> play with ubottu in PM, that works fine too
[20:07] <immuda> in PM meaning?
[20:07] <immuda> !lts
[20:07] <daftykins> private message the bot, so that nobody else needs to see the spam
[20:08] <Fatal_Sushi> close to bot abuse, so don't do that immuda
[20:08] <immuda> okie
[20:09] <immuda> its not even allowed under off-topic channel? A no no?
[20:10] <tomreyn> the /topic of this channel has a list to the guidelines. if you have questions about those, head over to #ubuntu-ops


[08:12] <ev> superm1: nice one on bug 729241
[08:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 729241 in dpkg-repack "dpkg-repack doesn't work on amd64 natty" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729241
[08:24] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand *<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ubiquity/debian/changelog: Add LP bug reference.
[08:37] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand *<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/apt-clone): Set DPkg::Chroot-Directory (LP 727758).
[08:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 727758 in ubiquity "[apt-clone] fails silently during pkg install because debconf db is locked" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727758
[08:38] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand *<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[08:38] <CIA-31> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup
[08:38] <CIA-31> ubiquity: 1.57ubuntu10.
[08:41] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4554 ubiquity/debian/real-po/ (63 files): debconf-updatepo
[08:59] <ev> I was getting tired of debconf-updatepo constantly complaining at me
[08:59] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4555 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog real-po/hu.po real-po/ja.po real-po/zh_TW.po): Temporary fix for translations with carriage returns (LP: #730498).
[08:59] <ev> \/
[08:59] <ev> er ^
[08:59] <ev> :)
[09:12] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4556 ubiquity/ (123 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[10:09] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4557 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.23
[11:18] <hrw> hello
[11:18] <hrw> ev: ogra suggested to talk with you about my issue: http://42.pl/u/2z8N
[11:32] <ev> hrw: the non-encoded characters?
[11:33] <hrw> ev: yes
[11:33] <ev> hrw: please file a bug for it
[11:33] <hrw> ev: looks like only lists are affected
[11:33] <hrw> ev: on which compoennt?
[11:33] <ev> ubiquity
[11:33] <hrw> ok
[11:39] <hrw> X just died on my desktop ;( be back in few - need to reboot
[11:56] <hrw> ev: bug 730576
[11:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 730576 in ubiquity "wrong encoding in keyboard country and layout lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730576
[12:26] <hrw> photo of bug attached
[12:49] <ev> thanks
[12:53] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4558 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py): * Drop privileges earlier in ubi-partman.
[12:53] <CIA-31> ubiquity: evand * r4559 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * Remove unused templates.
[14:23] <CarlFK> where can I find partman-auto-recipe.txt  or some examples
[14:25] <CarlFK> I'm trying to setup bare box with maverick=6g, natty=6g, swap=1g, home=rest
[14:38] <hrw> 5~5~/wk
[15:16] <cjwatson> ev: do you have grub-pc installed on the system where you build wubi?
[15:16] <cjwatson> ev: IOW would it be an inconvenience for wubi to start build-depending on grub-pc?
[15:18] <cjwatson> actually, silly question, it clearly already implicitly does
[15:55] <davmor2> ev: on ubiquity do you still have the ability to move grub to sdb for example,  it used to be under advanced on the overview page
[16:01] <ev> cjwatson: indeed, it's why I occasionally do wubi builds even when there's no changes to it
[16:01] <ev> perhaps we should formalize that a bit more?
[16:01] <ev> davmor2: it still is
[16:02] <davmor2> cool
[16:05] <cjwatson> ev: oh, I'm less bothered about that, just working out if I can use the ntldr-img extra built into grub2 rather than wubi's private copy
[16:05] <cjwatson> that said, it doesn't immediately help :-/
[16:05] <cjwatson> but one less place to maintain that code ..
[16:11] <ev> ah,gotcha
[16:30] <superm1> ev, well i'm glad debian already fixed it :)
[16:31] <superm1> curious, how is apt-clone using it? i haven't looked over the code that closely, but doesn't it need to already be in the chroot of the system to work?
[16:32] <cjwatson> argh, the wubi mbr is utterly incomprehensible
[16:32] <cjwatson> 7000 lines of spaghetti assembler
[16:32] <cjwatson> well, not that that's wubi code as such, it's ntldr-img, but wubi is the only thing we support that uses it
[16:47] <ubuntu-david> My Ubuntu-Server LiveCD is hosted on one of Ubuntu machine and exported as directory by NFS. I am using Pxelinux to boot mini from local Server as well. But, Installing machine cannot mount exported directory from Local NFS Server directory as /CDROM. My Installation is stopped at try to load package from /CDROM. Is this possible? If yes, please tell me how to do this.
[16:49] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.de/RrEa/ d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string  - creates/formats partitions for a maverick install, including a 6g sda2 for /natty.   In my natty install, how do I tell it to use the existing partition table?
[16:49] <CarlFK> trying to make a duel boot: maverick/natty.
[16:55] <ev> superm1: hm, I hadn't noticed that.  Yikes.
[16:56] <ubuntu-david> I had bare machine and need install Ubuntu Server
[16:56] <ev> I'll have to dig deeper on Wednesday (have to run shortly and am travelling to Pycon tomorrow)
[17:03] <CarlFK> ev: me too
[17:06] <ev> CarlFK: oh? You're attending Pycon?
[17:06] <CarlFK> ev:  kinda. I do the videos.  which means I don't really get to attend ;/
[17:07] <ev> aw, tis a shame
[17:08] <CarlFK> pycon 2009/10  "748,905 Views"  and a bunch of thank-you emails.  that makes it worth it.
[17:13] <ev> :)
[17:27] <superm1> ev, well i haven't actually tried it or dug through the apt-clone code, so maybe mvo had some swanky way to handle it
[17:27] <superm1> but if need be, you can always just copy /usr/bin/dpkg-repack into /tmp of the chroot if it's not already in the chroot's $PATH
[17:28] <superm1> it's a pretty straightforward script
[19:31] <CIA-31> ubiquity: superm1 * r4560 ubiquity/ (bin/oem-config-remove-gtk debian/changelog): Fix oem-config-remove-gtk for changes in multiarch.


 I submit this as evidence of rap genius  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jB5x-h_yYc
[18:42] <foobarry> fixed my github pages issue
[22:03] <diddledan> javascript is broken: https://twitter.com/ticky/status/883081919184982016
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> isn't that working under the assumption that javascript was meant to be not broken? :-P
[22:10] <diddledan> well it was _meant_ to not be broken. it's just that making a language in 11 days is error prone
[22:10] <diddledan> you can apparently make a LOT of mistakes in 11 days
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> that _would_ explain the shocking state of the planet...
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> just can't get the deities...
[23:01] <diddledan> I wrote a thingy: https://github.com/bowlhat/sftp-deploy
[23:27] <diddledan> so hot :-o
[23:38] <zmoylan-pi> windows open, fan on.  nice breeze here...
[23:40] <diddledan> my window is shut, because flying things
[23:41] <zmoylan-pi> flypaper...
[23:41] <diddledan> my bedroom window is open though. maybe I should go laydown and IRC :-p
[23:42] <zmoylan-pi> i'm in bed, watching allo allo, on irc and browsing the web.


[19:33] <peppe84> hi simple backup guide is not update
[19:33] <peppe84>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/690803
[19:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 690803 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "keeping-safe backup-files (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:33] <peppe84> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite


[19:14] <clivejo> is there any way to allow other people to upload to a PPA?
[19:41] <cjwatson> clivejo: Either make the PPA team-owned and add them to the team; or, undocumentedly, you can use edit-acl from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools thus: edit-acl -A ppa:PPA-OWNER-NAME/ubuntu/PPA-NAME -c main -p UPLOADER-NAME add
[19:41] <cjwatson> (which basically wraps https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#archive-newComponentUploader)
[19:42] <clivejo> can a private PPA be converted to team owned?
[19:46] <cjwatson> No.
[19:47] <cjwatson> Although you can create a new PPA under appropriate team ownership and copy everything over to it.
[19:48] <clivejo> also, can recipes be used to monitor a 3rd site for new source code and built it if necessary?
[19:50] <cjwatson> Recipes can only work with branches in Launchpad, but you can set up code imports in combination with recipes to achieve that.
[19:50] <cjwatson> (Although not for private branches.)
[20:14] <clivejo> I see
[20:14] <clivejo> is there way to envoke uscan to grab the source?
[20:14] <clivejo> and a cron every week or something?


[06:43] <Jupiter123> how is ubuntu different from mint?
[06:44] <Jupiter123> though mint is based on ubuntu, what differentiates it from ubuntu?
[06:44] <Jupiter123> and are mint's update policies prudent?
[06:46] <alkisg> Jupiter123: mint doesn't follow the debian policy in package management
[06:47] <alkisg> E.g. they just modify whatever they want in /etc, breaking other packages and updates
[06:47] <Jupiter123> alkisg: but, mint has both versions. One based on Debian and the other one based on Ubuntu.
[06:48] <alkisg> Yes, it does the same in both versions :D
[06:48] <alkisg> So neither Debian developers nor Ubuntu developers like that very much
[06:48] <Jupiter123> what is flawed in their update policy?
[06:48] <alkisg> They could just create a "flavor", instead of trying to hack their own "distro"
[06:48] <Jupiter123> please educate me.
[06:48] <alkisg> For example, they go and write mint in /etc/os-release
[06:49] <alkisg> So the next update prompts "hey administrator, you modified that file, but now there's an update, do you want to overwrite it?"
[06:49] <Jupiter123> why it tops the distrowatch rankings?
[06:49] <alkisg> And the administrator replies "wth? I never touched that file"
[06:49] <alkisg> Because it has good themes :)
[06:49] <alkisg> And because many linux users have more enthousiasm than knowledge
[06:49] <Jupiter123> then, it is not as secure as ubuntu?
[06:49] <Jupiter123> or debian.
[06:50] <alkisg> They also block some updates, thus lowering security
[06:50] <alkisg> So yeah
[06:51] <Jupiter123> what about other ubuntu derivatives like elementary and zorinos?
[06:51] <Jupiter123> do they also have a similar policy?
[06:52] <alkisg> Long story short, "real" distros have their own repositories and don't depend on other repositories
[06:52] <Jupiter123> ok.
[06:52] <alkisg> Mint depends on ubuntu's repositories
[06:52] <Jupiter123> I am using ubuntu mate.
[06:52] <alkisg> And has an "overlay" for its own
[06:52] <alkisg> So, avoid distros that aren't real distros, and rely on other distro repositories
[06:52] <alkisg> MATE doesn't have its own repositories, it's a proper flavor using ubuntu's repositories
[06:52] <Jupiter123> what exactly do you mean by real distros?
[06:53] <alkisg> The ones that do the work
[06:53] <alkisg> Instead of others that want to offer a theme etc on top of the work of others
[06:54] <Jupiter123> but ubuntu also is based on debian
[06:54] <alkisg> Yes, but it has its own repositories
[06:54] <alkisg> That means it maintains the versions it ships by itself
[06:54] <Jupiter123> ok
[09:11] <sigurdson> Anyone know how to add Klite codec's pack or any good codec pack so i can play files in VLC?
[11:09] <CrazyTux> what to do when the OS freezes suddenly?
[11:10] <CrazyTux> why ubuntu has this problem of random freezing?
[11:16] <alkisg> CrazyTux: run `dmesg` and check for errors there
[11:17] <alkisg> It doesn't freeze for most people here....
[11:17] <CrazyTux> well, since the installation it never froze. Today was probably the first time it did.
[11:21] <CrazyTux> I hope it will not happen again.
[11:22] <diogenes_> CrazyTux, doesn't it also happen on win and mac?
[11:23] <CrazyTux> diogenes_, I have stopped using Windows.
[11:24] <diogenes_> I stopped also but what I am talking about is that it happens everywhere
[11:24] <diogenes_> doesn't depend on OS in most of the cases
[11:25] <CrazyTux> ok
[11:26] <CrazyTux> does it happen on Mint?
[11:36] <CrazyTux> diogenes_, could it be because of some plugins installed in Firefox?
[11:36] <CrazyTux> the OS froze when I was browsing on Firefox.
[11:38] <diogenes_> everything can be
[11:38] <CrazyTux> ok
[12:22] <nemo> So I was reading:
[12:22] <nemo> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_an_Ubuntu_Xenial_installation
[12:23] <nemo> which was making me rethink my current transition of all my ubuntu 14.04 machines to devuan
[12:23] <nemo> (currently is only my father in law's computer)
[12:23] <nemo> oh. and the living room one
[12:23] <nemo> What I was wondering was.  As currently packaged in ubuntu xenial, would MATE function fine with systemd stripped?
[12:25] <nemo> (they have instructions there for xfce, but not mate)
[12:38] <mate|1477> quit
[12:38] <reeb> Hello :D anyone using finger print reader ?  good program to use ?
[12:40] <reeb> This is for a Dell latitude e6400.
[14:43] <imexil> Hi, I've just upgraded 17.04 to 17.10 and now the different layouts are gone. I even needed to install mate-tweak. But I can no longer set up mutiny. does 17.10 need additional packages to offer the different themes?
[14:43] <imexil> layout = mutiny, cupertino, redmond
[14:43] <marosg> they are all in mate-tweak
[14:44] <imexil> let me log out and in again.
[14:44] <marosg> I installed 17.10 and mate-tweak was there, maybe something to do with upgrade path?
[14:46] <imexil> must be. I only get GNOME2 and Traditional. Nothing else.
[14:47] <alkisg> imexil: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=redmond.layout&mode=exactfilename&suite=zesty&arch=any
[14:47] <alkisg> Same for artful
[14:48] <alkisg> I.e. the file you're looking for comes from the "ubuntu-mate-default-settings" package
[14:48] <alkisg> Install it...
[14:48] <imexil> yes that package was missing actually. Strange this since I had 17.04 on mutiny
[14:49] <alkisg> imexil: were you using a ppa, like e.g. for some mate newer version?
[14:49] <alkisg> PPAs cause upgrade issues...
[14:50] <imexil> I had PPAs but not mate specific ones IIRC
[14:50] <imexil> also keyboard locale is borked. Says its correct Norwegian but is actually US
[14:50] <alkisg> Strange then. You could check the upgrade log and report the bug, if you feel like it
[14:51] <alkisg> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[14:51] <alkisg> And reset all mate keyboard settings
[14:51] <alkisg> I don't know why all DEs want to implement their own keyboard handling in broken ways, when xorg implements it correctly...
[14:52] <imexil> I simply removed Norwegian and added it again which fixed it
[14:53] <imexil> still no mutiny or any other Panel (as I see it is called correctly)
[14:53] <alkisg> ls /usr/share/mate-panel/layouts
[14:55] <imexil> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25667353/
[14:56] <alkisg> And you open mate-tweak and you don't see those?
[14:56] <imexil> exactly
[14:56] <alkisg> Did you try logout/login, after you installed the mate settings package?
[14:56] <imexil> where would I find the upgrade log
[14:56] <imexil> yes
[14:57] <imexil> let me do a restart just to be on the safe side
[14:57] <alkisg> ok
[15:00] <imexil> Only Gnome2 and Traditional still
[15:02] <imexil> also it seems it is missing quite a lot of the features mentioned in the https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-artful-beta2/ notes
[15:02] <imexil> like I don't have the session indocator
[15:02] <imexil> *indicator
[15:03] <marosg> stupid question - does it report 17.10 in /etc/os-release ?
[15:04] <imexil> NAME="Ubuntu"
[15:04] <imexil> VERSION="17.10 (Artful Aardvark)"
[15:04] <imexil> ID=ubuntu
[15:04] <imexil> ID_LIKE=debian
[15:04] <imexil> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Artful Aardvark (development branch)"
[15:04] <imexil> VERSION_ID="17.10"
[15:06] <imexil> I might have found something in the log.
[15:08] <imexil> here is my apt.log and there is some problems with mate-tweak indeed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25667443/
[15:09] <imexil> Line 639ff
[15:20] <imexil> OK I did a apt --reinstall ubuntu-mate-desktop and now I can choose all Panel types but no effect what so ever. Neither after restart
[15:21] <imexil> Also still no Session menu etc.
[15:28] <imexil> Looks like the upgrade must have borked out in the middle but didn't really report this. I'm running apt upgrade now and let's see if that will fix it.
[16:40] <imexil> Right after some iterations with synaptic, it seems to be resolved. Looks like broken upgrade was the reason. As to why ... hard to tell now. Anyway I'm good to go now.
[18:22] <TaZeR> i cant wait for ubuntu 20!
[18:30] <ouroumov_> TaZeR, 20 ?
[19:19] <nemo> ouroumov_: presumably whatever ubuntu is released in 2½ years? ☺
[21:01] <TaZeR> yes i think it will be a revolutionary version
[21:02] <TaZeR> just because developers will try extra hard to make that number special
[21:02] <sixwheeledbeast> why 20? or 20.04?
[21:13] <TaZeR> 20.xx however they number it


[03:48] <boredandblogging> jenda: ping
[03:48] <jenda> pong
[03:48] <boredandblogging> jenda, i created a draft at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing/HOWTOs
[03:48] <boredandblogging> jenda, not a whole lot there after going through the wiki pages of the LoCos, let me know what else I can add
[03:50] <jenda> boredandblogging: neat :)
[03:50] <jenda> I'll check it out.
[03:56] <Ckenyon> .
[03:58] <poningru> Ckenyon: yarrr
[03:59] <jenda> Ckenyon: aloha ;)
[04:10] <Ckenyon> Hello all
[04:10] <Ckenyon> Just adding some detail to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn
[04:10] <Ckenyon> There are some formatting errors that I will clean up when this connection speeds up
[04:10] <Ckenyon> I am in sunny Zagreb and Ante from the Hugarian Loco
[04:12] <poningru> Ckenyon: one of the things I wanted to do was get an actual party tool instead of a wiki page
[04:12] <poningru> i.e the firefox party tool
[04:12] <poningru> Ckenyon: we can just use that
[04:12] <poningru> its released under MPL
[04:12] <poningru> http://www.firefoxparty.com/
[06:48] <ScottK> Is this the correct forum to discuss inputs to the Feisty press release?
[06:51] <jenda> hmm
[06:51] <jenda> Maybe
[06:51] <jenda> if you find someone to discuss with... ;)
[06:55] <jenda> ScottK: if you have particular suggestions, it's probably best to send them to the mailing list.
[06:55] <ScottK> jenda: What mailing list?
[06:55] <jenda> (I personally have no idea who is in charge of the press release)
[06:55] <jenda><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:55] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:56] <jenda> you can also subscribe to the list at lists.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <jenda> no problem
[06:56] <jenda> I'm sorry I can't help any more.
[06:56] <ScottK> I got more help than I paid for, so I'm happy.
[06:57] <jenda> hehehe :)
[06:57] <jenda> ScottK: it'll be $10
[06:57] <jenda> Still happy? :)
[06:58] <ScottK> Well I say that because when I help people I always get annoyed when they feel an entitlement to more help than I have time to give for free.  I appreciate you giving of your time to help me out. There is no requirement for you to do so.
[06:59] <jenda> :)
[06:59] <jenda> I can relate to that ;)


 The ticket-machine was broken, I filled a complaint and I won :D
[14:20]  * smile gets his 25 euros back (250 rand :p )
[14:20] <Kilos> lol
[14:20] <Kilos> cool
[14:21] <Kilos> how come you getting parking tickets? you still supposed to be walking and getting lifts
[14:22] <smile> no, I can drive a car, Kilos :p
[14:22] <smile> For almost a year now :p
[14:23] <Kilos> wow
[14:23] <Kilos> with a license?
[14:23] <Kilos> licence
[14:23] <Kilos> that thing
[14:24] <smile> yeah :p
[14:24] <smile> ;)
[14:24] <smile> I'm almost 19 :D
[14:24] <Kilos> great
[14:24] <smile> (remember, April 16) ;)
[14:24] <Kilos> crazy place that
[14:24] <Kilos> oh you a ballie already
[14:33] <smile> :D
[14:37] <smile> Kilos: will you come to my birthday partieeh? :p
[14:38] <Kilos> lol so far?
[14:38] <Kilos> if you have it online i will attend
[14:39] <Kilos> are you still fixing wikiups
[14:41] <Kilos> wikiups=hiccups in wiki
[14:44] <smile> I see ;)
[14:45] <smile> only 10.000 km ;)
[14:45] <Kilos> haha
[14:52] <smile> Kilos: can't you walk that far? :p
[14:54] <Kilos> lol no man
[14:54] <smile> only a fraction of your life: "Doing the math;  the average person with the average stride living until 80 will walk a distance of around 110,000 miles." @ http://snowbrains.com/brain-post-how-far-does-the-average-human-walk-in-a-lifetime/
[14:54] <Kilos> whew
[14:54] <smile> :p
[14:55]  * smile gets tired when he sees that number
[14:55] <Kilos> yeah
[15:07] <smile> Kilos: you are my friend :)
[15:07] <Kilos> ty smile  :-)
[15:08] <smile> :)
[15:08] <smile> you're welcome
[15:08] <smile> I'm hungry :p
[15:08] <smile> it's 17:08 over here
[15:08] <Kilos> you always hungry
[15:08] <smile> yea :p
[15:08] <smile> unless I'm ill, which I am :p
[15:08] <smile> but I'm recovering. :p
[15:09] <smile> First days I couldn't even sit before a computer screen :p
[15:09] <Kilos> eina
[15:15] <smile> I'm off - eating! :)
[15:15] <Kilos> enjoy
[15:16] <smile> thanks :p
[16:32] <Kilos> haha deegee__  hows things
[16:45] <drussell> Kilos: hey man, good thx
[17:48] <theblazehen> hi Kilos, all
[17:49] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[17:57] <theblazehen> Kilos, anything interesting been going on?
[17:58] <Kilos> nope been dead quiet
[18:02] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[18:08] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[00:22] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: parole 4.18.0 released @ http://www.mail-archive.com/xfce-announce@xfce.org/msg00797.html


[07:01] <qhartman> I am having a problem with hard locks under sustained network / CPU load (rsync) with Edgy that produce no logging output that I can see. What's the best place to help / get help diagnosing this?
[07:05] <qhartman> Found the info I need from the link in the topic, thanks.


[14:33] <Blue2> It's connecting to the wrong IRC Channel on Ubuntuonair.com
[14:47] <Blue2> QUESTION: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FFW-56polHFclXJfSRunGK1TL7vTk_RzgCoJdhIxVl0/edit?usp=sharing
[14:48] <tsimonq2> \o/
[14:48] <tsimonq2> morning everyone
[14:48] <Blue2> good morning
[14:49] <tsimonq2> wait a minute...they postponed the Q&A?!?
[14:49] <tsimonq2> :O
[14:50] <Blue2> what animal would do that? :O
[14:51] <davmor2> bluewhale
[14:51] <Blue2> there's no Q&A this week apparently
[14:51] <davmor2> no wait that is QI and QA I was close
[14:51] <dholbach> Blue2, some folks are on holidays right now and there was another important meeting coming up with a different team, so we had to make do with the time overlap we have in between multiple timezones
[14:52] <dholbach> I realise that this is unfortunate, but we'll be back next week
[14:52] <Blue2> ok
[14:53] <dholbach> and I hope "what animal" was a joke
[14:53] <Blue2> Humans are animals
[14:53] <Blue2> ;)
[14:54] <Blue2> of course it was a joke...
[14:54] <dholbach> right, it's not always clear in what kind of mood somebody behind a keyboard somewhere else on the planet is typing things :)
[14:54] <dholbach> but yeah... sorry about! :)
[14:56] <mcphail> have I missed it?
[14:56] <Blue2> No Q&A this week, they have important meetings
[14:57] <mcphail> aah. Ta
[15:16] <ChloeWolfieGirl> is the q&a on now?
[15:17] <davmor2> ChloeWolfieGirl: no q&a this week
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Wut? ;-; I thought ThomasVoss was on this week?
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> as a quest
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> guest
[15:18] <tsimonq2> yeah ^
[15:19] <tsimonq2> dholbach: was that postponed? ^
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Or is that next week and just been some missocommunication
[15:19] <tsimonq2> yeah
[15:32] <popey> we cancelled this week as we had a clash