[12:14] <soulrider> denisel: i havnt been able to find anything yet, try searching on google and on http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:14] <dwidmann> wolfwalker: kipi-plugins are a set of image related plugins for gwenview and digikam that do a variety of things
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  K3b 0.12.17 isn't recent?
[12:15] <denisel> ok
[12:15] <Schuenemann> Mez: I installed but still no sounds with kmplayer and vlc doesn't even play it
[12:15] <dwidmann> Yes and no Daisuke_Ido
[12:15] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido: that's the latest release as I know
[12:15] <steve_> dwidmann: was your message that you do use vmware server?
[12:15] <Alarm> hello. when i try to run something as su , i get ; alarm@rockpc:/$ sudo updatedb
[12:15] <Alarm> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 16 17:02:11 2007
[12:15] <sleepy495> agente2012, one more question, how do I install the latest java?
[12:15] <Alarm> why is that /
[12:16] <Schuenemann> sleepy495: you have to download it manually from sun's site
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> how yes and how no?
[12:16] <Schuenemann> I'd install java 5 if I were you
[12:16] <Schuenemann> via apt-get
[12:16] <wolfwalker> Oh yeah, one more thing. Pic editor
[12:16] <wolfwalker> What picture editor should I get?
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> latest in the .12 branch, but the 1.0 RC line supercedes it?
[12:16] <dwidmann2> gah, I keep getting disconnected
[12:16] <Schuenemann> wolfwalker: GIMP?
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> gimp or krita
[12:17] <sleepy495> Schuenemann, sudo apt-get (what then)?
[12:17] <wolfwalker> Also, why can I not see all the files on my computer? I'm used to Windows Explorer, being able to see ALL files.
[12:18] <kkosmo> !grub
[12:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:18] <dwidmann2> wolfwalker: in konqueror, view -> show hidden files
[12:18] <Schuenemann> sleepy495: you want JRE or JDK?
[12:18] <Mez> wolfwalker - view -> hidden files
[12:18] <wolfwalker> People keep saying in konqueror. What is Konqueror and where is it?
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> konqueror is your file manager
[12:19] <JosefK> wolfwalker: konqueror is the file browser, like explorer
[12:19] <sleepy495> I'm not familiar with those, what's the difference? I'm on Edgy 6.10
[12:19] <hassan2a_> !french
[12:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:19] <Schuenemann> konqueror is the default web browser and file manager
[12:19] <wolfwalker> Hey, I told you I was a newbie :P
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough :)
[12:19] <wolfwalker> So how do you access it?
[12:19] <agente2012> sleepy495:  add repository:  deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[12:19] <dwidmann2> konqueror = awesomeness in a window
[12:19] <Schuenemann> sleepy495: JDK is the development toolkit. if you don't know what JDK is, you probably don't want it
[12:19] <agente2012> lasted in Adept manger package
[12:19] <agente2012> in seach
[12:19] <agente2012> sun-java
[12:20] <JosefK> wolfwalker: just open up a window, say to your Home or the root ('/') of your filesystem, open the "View" menu and select "Show Hidden Files"
[12:20] <agente2012> request install
[12:20] <dwidmann2> "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[12:20] <Schuenemann> damn... I'll guess I'll stick with kaffeine and use mplayer when I need FLV
[12:20] <JosefK> agente2012: don't try to install sun-java using adept
[12:20] <wolfwalker> 10/4
[12:20] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[12:20] <dwidmann2> Schuenemann: did you try using -ao alsa as an argument to mplayer in the kmplayer config?
[12:21] <Schuenemann> dwidmann2: to mplayer or kmplayer?
[12:21] <agente2012> JosefK: is easy
[12:21] <Mez> wolfwalker - we're all newbies sometimes, which is why we're happy to help :D
[12:21] <K-Ryan> !wine
[12:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:21] <JosefK> agente2012: no, it's impossible - you can't accept the DLJ license using the terminal adept uses for configuration
[12:21] <Schuenemann> dwidmann2: Unknown option: -ao
[12:22] <Mez> fun - wolfwalker wasnt even using linux ;)
[12:22] <JosefK> agente2012: you wind up having to kill adept and dpkg, then force a reconfigure manually
[12:22] <dwidmann2> kmplayer -> configure -> general options -> mplayer. Set the mplayer command to "mplayer -ao alsa"
[12:22] <sleepy495> dwidman, that command you gave me, is it safe to use to install java?
[12:22] <denisel> im just getting a bunch of stuff to download and i dont know witch one
[12:22] <dwidmann2> or wait
[12:23] <dwidmann2> better yet, leave the "mplayer command" alone, and put "-ao alsa" in additional command line arguments
[12:23] <agente2012> JosefK: I accept the license from Adept ... simply showing the process of installation xD
[12:23] <denisel> the last time it worked was when i had a cd for the comp but i lost the cd my brother said it sould work with out the cd but i thinki i might need it
[12:23] <agente2012> ;)
[12:24] <agente2012> hi [GuS]
[12:24] <Schuenemann> dwidmann2: I tried and no dice... weird that those arguments get erased when I restart
[12:25] <dwidmann2> Schuenemann: weird indeed, make sure that kmplayer is set to use the mplayer engine and not xine (which is likely the default)
[12:25] <Schuenemann> sorry, how do I check that?
[12:26] <dwidmann2> right click in the play window, play with -> mplayer
[12:26] <Schuenemann> oops, that was stupid
[12:26] <soulrider> does anyone know if solaris is based on linux ?
[12:26] <Schuenemann> on unix
[12:26] <agente2012> on unix
[12:26] <agente2012> BSD on uni
[12:26] <soulrider> oh, ok
[12:26] <agente2012> solaris too
[12:27] <agente2012> unix**
[12:27] <soulrider> becuase sun is shipping solaris DVDs for free
[12:27] <Schuenemann> dwidmann2: going well now :)
[12:27] <agente2012> soulrider:  and serious?
[12:27] <agente2012> xD
[12:27] <Schuenemann> interesting that mplayer renders a lot better than xine
[12:27] <Schuenemann> xine was very slow
[12:27] <soulrider> they really are...
[12:28] <sleepy495> so the best way to install the latest java is just to type sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre ?
[12:28] <Schuenemann> latest java is 6
[12:29] <sleepy495> really? what should I type then? just replace 5 with 6 using the aptitude command?
[12:29] <soulrider> sleepy495: i dont think its on the repos yet
[12:29] <Schuenemann> I don't think is available through apt
[12:29] <N6REJ> soulrider: solaris is a serious enterprise ready OS
[12:29] <agente2012> what date go KDE 4?
[12:29] <denisel> oh u have to put A50 on the end to find the camra im useing
[12:29] <dwidmann2> soulrider: nor will it be, at all
[12:29] <Schuenemann> just install 5
[12:29] <dwidmann2> agente2012: maybe in 6 months or so
[12:29] <sleepy495> ok
[12:29] <agente2012> thank dwidmann2
[12:30] <Schuenemann> dwidmann2: why java 6 won't be in the repositories?
[12:30] <dwidmann2> Schuenemann: probably will be in the repos for feisty, but not dapper or edgy
[12:30] <Schuenemann> ahh..
[12:30] <soulrider> agente2012: unless youre developing i don think you need to worry about having java6
[12:30] <N6REJ> Schuenemann: ubuntu lags a bit behind on releases
[12:31] <Schuenemann> actually it has nothing to do with developping
[12:31] <Schuenemann> it's not JDK
[12:31] <soulrider> Schuenemann: i know
[12:31] <soulrider> but unless he wants to develop for java
[12:31] <Schuenemann> but I don't know any applications up to know that REQUIRE version 6
[12:31] <soulrider> its ok if he gets java 5
[12:31] <Schuenemann> up to now*
[12:31] <soulrider> yeah, i havnt seen any either
[12:32] <soulrider> i dont think there were many changes in java 6
[12:32] <grumbly> hello... how do I mount a smb share at boot for all users?
[12:32] <Schuenemann> but I have 6 anyway :)
[12:32] <JosefK> !smbfs
[12:32] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[12:32] <grumbly> thank you
[12:32] <JosefK> grumbly: see above, you can put the mounts in your fstab
[12:32] <grumbly> JosefK: thanks
[12:32] <JosefK> grumbly: np's
[12:33] <N6REJ> soulrider: are they shipping solaris or just dl?
[12:33] <soulrider> N6REJ: shipping
[12:33] <grumbly> and one other thing, I cant seem to get beyond the home dir in konqueror
[12:33] <soulrider> for limited time only
[12:33] <Schuenemann> for free?
[12:33] <N6REJ> soulrider: you got a link?
[12:33] <grumbly> is there some setting I am forgetting?
[12:34] <Schuenemann> soulrider: shipping for free?  (!!!)
[12:34] <N6REJ> grumbly: look at the bottom right corner of konqueror for a how to... some of the buttons are in strange places.
[12:34] <soulrider> yes
[12:34] <Schuenemann> wow
[12:34] <dwidmann2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/sun-java6-jre - java6 is already in feisty by the looks of things
[12:34] <N6REJ> I miss my sparc10
[12:34] <grumbly> ok
[12:36] <Schuenemann> soulrider: you know the link to request it?
[12:36] <soulrider> http://www2.sun.de/dc/forms/reg_us_2211_391.jsp
[12:36] <N6REJ> soulrider: do you know if that includes the companion dvd?
[12:36] <Schuenemann> it seems they hide that form
[12:37] <soulrider> no idea N6REJ
[12:37] <soulrider> Schuenemann: why do you say they hide it?
[12:37] <sampan> downloading the install cd for edgy and ... can't find the md5sum anywhere ... (why isn't this right on the download page?)
[12:37] <Schuenemann> I looked for at their page and did not find
[12:37] <N6REJ> soulrider: ok, just wondering... didn't know if I should get it just to be safe.
[12:37] <soulrider> N6REJ: im not sure either lol
[12:37] <sampan> does anyone have a link to an official edgy md5sum?
[12:38] <N6REJ> sampan: go to the dl site and look for "md5sum" :D
[12:38] <N6REJ> its right there.
[12:38] <soulrider> is there a java 6 jdk on the repos ?
[12:38] <soulrider> Schuenemann: you gonna order one ?
[12:39] <sampan> n6rej  it's not on the page where i am at least
[12:39] <Schuenemann> yes, I was just about to press Submit when you called me :p
[12:39] <N6REJ> any mirror should have it, its a requirement.
[12:39] <agente2012> for lasted java add repository: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[12:39] <soulrider> lol
[12:39] <soulrider> i guess ill order one
[12:39] <soulrider> is ti a good OS? :P
[12:40] <Schuenemann> it surely is, but I don't know about desktop users
[12:40] <sampan> n6rej the page: www.kubuntu.org/download.php -- has direct links to iso images that download, but no md5sum at all ...
[12:40] <Schuenemann> maybe it's like linux was 10 years ago :)
[12:40] <sampan> and all the bottom links to mirrors are for dapper and not edgy
[12:40] <soulrider> it does have GNOME
[12:40] <Schuenemann> hmm
[12:40] <Schuenemann> too bad it doesn't send many, I could distribute around
[12:41] <N6REJ> at one time, if you wanted to have a high quality server, you ran solaris or stayed home!
[12:41] <N6REJ> dvd or cd sampan?
[12:41] <sampan> n6rej  cd
[12:41] <N6REJ> k
[12:41] <agente2012> gnome is not good xD
[12:42] <soulrider> i dont like GNOME L:P
[12:42] <N6REJ> sampan: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[12:42] <Schuenemann> I thing gnome is ugly
[12:42] <Schuenemann> think*
[12:42] <soulrider> i really dont know if i should ask for a CD
[12:42] <sampan> n6rej   no worries -- i foudn it -- just weird that it's not right on the main page when you can one-click to dl
[12:42] <Schuenemann> it's a DVD
[12:42] <sampan> ahhh :D
[12:42] <soulrider> yes, DVD
[12:42] <soulrider> i just call everything a CD :P
[12:42] <agente2012> gnome suck
[12:43] <agente2012> xd
[12:43] <N6REJ> Schuenemann: when you are running solaris the last thing you really are supposed to be worried about is eye-candy... its designed to be heavy duty!
[12:43] <N6REJ> lol
[12:43] <agente2012> kde rulez!!
[12:43] <Schuenemann> hehe
[12:43] <Schuenemann> that's nice sometimes
[12:43] <soulrider> Schuenemann: it it as easy to install software there as it is on ubuntu, and, is there a lot of software available?
[12:43] <Schuenemann> I don't know
[12:43] <N6REJ> http://solaris.kde.org/
[12:44] <endo602> can anyone help me with a login issue
[12:44] <endo602> ?
[12:44] <grumbly> ok, so smbfs is installed, what do I put into fstab to mount the share?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> do GTK applications run slowly in KDE?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> firefox and thunderbird are slow here
[12:44] <endo602> i type in my password and it knocks me right back to the login screen
[12:44] <soulrider> Schuenemann: i dont think so
[12:44] <N6REJ> Schuenemann: with 2 dvd's I would hope so! my gosh... thats up to 16G depending on the format
[12:44] <N6REJ> endo602: check your caps
[12:44] <N6REJ> endo602: its case sensitive
[12:44] <endo602> caps?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> N6REJ: it's just 1, no?
[12:44] <endo602> doesnt say login failed
[12:44] <soulrider> check that capo lock is not on
[12:45] <N6REJ> Schuenemann: there's a companion dvd for free dl
[12:45] <soulrider> the damn green light on top of the bnumpad :P
[12:45] <Schuenemann> hmm
[12:45] <N6REJ> endo602: do you have bash access?
[12:45] <endo602> yes
[12:45] <sleepy495> Does anyone know if SuperKaramba programs are buggy with Beryl installed or it works good?
[12:45] <N6REJ> endo602: check your error logs /var/log
[12:45] <endo602> i have console access
[12:45] <soulrider> sleepy495: as far as i can remember, its all good
[12:46] <endo602> one sec
[12:46] <sleepy495> o, cool :)
[12:46] <N6REJ> I guess when I go in for the night I'll dl the companion just in case.
[12:46] <endo602> what log there?
[12:47] <N6REJ> probably syslog
[12:47] <grumbly> how do I mount SMB shares for all users, that is, at boot?  I have smbfs but the only thing I can find is how to mount for specific users
[12:47] <N6REJ> !samba | grumbly
[12:47] <ubotu> grumbly: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:47] <grumbly> THANK YOU MUCH N6REJ
[12:47] <N6REJ> yw
[12:48] <endo602> N6REJ what should i be looking for in particular
[12:48] <endo602> alot of stuff here
[12:49] <N6REJ> endo602: error messages... tell it "tail /var/log/syslog"
[12:49] <N6REJ> correction sudo tail /var/log/syslog sorry
[12:49] <endo602> what does tail doo?
[12:49] <Schuenemann> what is that apt command to remove dependencies not used anymore? auto-remove something
[12:49] <grumbly> N6REJ: do you know if I need to specify a gid or uid?
[12:49] <soulrider> ok, i ordered solaris :P
[12:49] <Schuenemann> sudo apt-get autoremove?
[12:50] <Schuenemann> thx
[12:50] <N6REJ> yw
[12:50] <endo602> internal error
[12:50] <Schuenemann> invalid operations
[12:50] <endo602> memory corruption detected
[12:50] <N6REJ> grumbly: I don't remember... it just "worked" for me
[12:50] <Schuenemann> operation*
[12:50] <gilesa> can any one help with an apt-get problem?
[12:50] <endo602> cant open default user face
[12:50] <N6REJ> !autoremove
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoremove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <N6REJ> bah
[12:50] <Schuenemann> !autoclean
[12:50] <grumbly> ok
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoclean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <grumbly> I'm gonna try
[12:51] <N6REJ> Schuenemann:  try sudo apt-get remove autoremove I know its one of the two
[12:51] <endo602> N6REJ says Can't open default user face.... Internal Error: memory corruption detected
[12:51] <Schuenemann> nah...
[12:51] <endo602> what should i do
[12:51] <endo602> recovery console works
[12:51] <Schuenemann> says impossible to find package autoremove
[12:51] <gilesa> When I run apt-get update it goes to ip <IP_ADDRESS> and so can't get updates.
[12:51] <N6REJ> endo602: there's your answer... you've got memory problems
[12:52] <N6REJ> Schuenemann: thats weird
[12:52] <N6REJ> let me look
[12:52] <endo602> like ram
[12:52] <Schuenemann> isn't it autoclean?
[12:52] <endo602> or disk space
[12:52] <endo602> what should i do
[12:52] <endo602> ?
[12:52] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[12:52] <N6REJ> sounds like ram... try reboot and if that doesn't work put live cd in and "test ram"
[12:53] <elyon> My entire system is locking up almost every time a user logs off.  Black screen, mouse cursor, but nothing works (can't restart X, can't launch a terminal, etc).  It has done this ever since I installed K/Ubuntu.
[12:53] <lnxkde> I made a little mistake :s
[12:53] <N6REJ> autoclean will clean old packages
[12:53] <lnxkde> I erased the mbr
[12:53] <lnxkde> :s
[12:54] <lnxkde> :s
[12:54] <lnxkde> someone can help me to get grub working again>
[12:54] <N6REJ> !hardware elyon
[12:54] <lnxkde> please
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardware elyon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <bubu1uk> gilesa: and u can get on internet without problems?
[12:54] <N6REJ> grrrrr
[12:54] <bubu1uk> !grub
[12:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:54] <N6REJ> !hardware | elyon
[12:54] <ubotu> elyon: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:54] <gilesa> I had it do the ivp6 dissabale first but yes
[12:55] <lnxkde> thankx buboiuk
[12:55] <grumbly> N6REJ: it worked! thanks
[12:55] <N6REJ> grumbly: congrats! glad to hear it
[12:55] <elyon> N6REJ: I've already confirmed my hardware is compatible.  And it doesn't happen EVERY time... just usually.
[12:55] <bubu1uk> gilesa: and it still doesnt' work since u got net?
[12:55] <gilesa> no
[12:56] <K-Ryan> Anyone know why Linux never really caught on with computers?
[12:56] <K-Ryan> It's always been "Windows this, Windows that..."
[12:56] <sleepy495> Can someone recommend a good up to date Linux book, I don'y mean gui books, just general Linux commands
[12:56] <bubu1uk> gilesa: hmm, are sources setup properly?
[12:56] <N6REJ> elyon: do a ram test, see if you've got problems
[12:56] <gilesa> nope, It's driving me crazy
[12:56] <grumbly> N6REJ: it seems like linux is substantially different from FreeBSD.  similar commands but the implimentation is different enough to drive me a little batty
[12:56] <elyon> N6REJ: How do I do that?
[12:56] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yeah, because windblows was first and had massive money behind it.
[12:56] <K-Ryan> But Linux is so much better
[12:56] <bubu1uk> grumbly: BSD and linux are pretty different, either both *nix
[12:57] <N6REJ> grumbly: yeah, but at least we don't bite when you ask for help like FREBEES do
[12:57] <K-Ryan> I mean Mac is more popular than Linux, and it's better than that too!
[12:57] <gilesa> I think so but its tring to acess a non exsitent ip so it can't get there
[12:57] <N6REJ> elyon: install your live cd, reboot and run "test ram"
[12:57] <grumbly> K-Ryan: I disagree.  they are different is all
[12:57] <elyon> K-Ryan: Linux is still quite daunting for the computer illiterate and requires someone with computer know-how to get it running correctly.
[12:57] <Minataku> Linux is a Unix clone
[12:57] <Schuenemann> well, most users don't know there are other OS... most don't even know what is an OS
[12:57] <Minataku> BSD is a Unix derivative
[12:57] <grumbly> N6REJ: I never had any problems with freebsd help
[12:57] <elyon> N6REJ: That take a long time?
[12:57] <K-Ryan> I think it's worth finding out how to use
[12:57] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: bsd is more robust then *nix... Mac osX is built on BSD
[12:57] <grumbly> (thats probably because the handbook is QUITE extensive.)
[12:57] <N6REJ> elyon: it can sure, depends on your ram.
[12:57] <bubu1uk> gilesa: i mean repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <Mez> K-Ryan, can we keep that sort of thing to #kubuntu-offtopic, people in here obviously like linux, and well, there are obviously benefits of linux and mac#
[12:58] <Mez> K-Ryan - it's all personal preference
[12:58] <K-Ryan> Yeah I was just curious if there was some big flaw in Linux in the past.
[12:58] <elyon> N6REJ: Just wanted to know what to expect.  Do I need to sit here and watch the output as it tests?
[12:58] <Minataku> OSX is a bastardized FreeBSD
[12:58] <gilesa> I've look and it looks ok, although I'm a newbie
[12:58] <Mez> K-Ryan - usability mainly.
[12:58] <Schuenemann> K-Ryan: past? it's quite new
[12:58] <Minataku> It uses a Mach kernel with a FreeBSD userland
[12:58] <Minataku> It's really quite horrible, actually
[12:58] <Mez> People see it as hard to use... and thats really just a misconception nowadays
[12:58] <K-Ryan> It's not that new, is it?
[12:58] <N6REJ> elyon: for a while anyway i would... if you want, let it just "cook" thats the best test... we used to "burn" in our machines that way every time we built them
[12:58] <Schuenemann> I think it is relatively new
[12:59] <K-Ryan> I think it's been around since the early 90's if I'm not mistaken.
[12:59] <Schuenemann> and it was made for programmers... few time ago it started being driven for end "normal" users
[12:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: its JUST beginning to mature... *nix was created in 1994
[12:59] <elyon> N6REJ: Alright... appreciate it!
[12:59] <N6REJ> elyon: np
[12:59] <grumbly> The only difference i can see is documentation-  that is, theres SOOOOOO many linux variations that it makes learning them all a little scary (Impossible)...  But onto the niceness of FBSD v. Linux, both "groups" have their friendlies and not-so-friendlies
[12:59] <Minataku> WRONG
[12:59] <Minataku> N6REJ: VERY Wrong
[12:59] <N6REJ> Minataku: compared to MacOS its nicer.
[12:59] <N6REJ> Minataku: huh?
[12:59] <Minataku> [18:57:45]  N6REJ K-Ryan: its JUST beginning to mature... *nix was created in 1994
[12:59] <Mez> N6REJ - 91 :D https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/rhasan/linux/
[01:00] <Minataku> Extremely wrong
[01:00] <elyon> Hmm... I thought the first Unix machines were around in the 80's
[01:00] <mineur> unix is from the 70's :)
[01:00] <gilesa> bubu1uk: its all a new install and I've not mucked anout with the sourses file
[01:00] <Minataku> Unix began WAY FARTHER BACK at Bell Telephone Laboratories with Unix Version 1
[01:00] <elyon> hehe, or 70's
[01:00] <K-Ryan> Unix and Linux are different right?
[01:00] <n8k99> unix is from ibm in the 60s
[01:00] <Minataku> n8k99: Wrong again
[01:00] <N6REJ> Minataku: we're talking *nix  not unix!  I was only off by 3 years sheesh
[01:00] <elyon> K-Ryan: Different yes... but Linux is based on Unix
[01:00] <Schuenemann> unix is from 1910
[01:00] <Minataku> Unix is included in *nix
[01:00] <aib> how can I tell what packages depend on a package I already have installed?
[01:00] <K-Ryan> Which is why I asked about Linux, not Unix =P
[01:01] <Minataku> Considering there are still direct Unix descendants that exist not counting the BSDs
[01:01] <n8k99> ah yes
[01:01] <JosefK> anyone played around with KDE's subversion repositories?  I'm trying to checkout Adept, but keep failing with a propfind error
[01:01] <N6REJ> Minataku: ok, I'll accept that one.
[01:01] <bubu1uk> gilesa: is it just apt-get update u tried? what bout adept? (either u'll probably end up with same error)
[01:01] <JosefK> ah, nvm, anonsvn.kde.org
[01:01] <Mez> JosefK - http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html
[01:01] <Minataku> Gotta know your history ;3
[01:01] <gilesa> Ibubu1uk: i don't know about bout adept
[01:02] <grumbly> Linux, if i remember, is a variant of AT&T system5
[01:02] <n8k99> linux is linus's version of minux
[01:02] <bubu1uk> gilesa: u use kde?
[01:02] <Schuenemann> minix?
[01:02] <JosefK> thanks a lot Mez
[01:02] <n8k99> phat phingers on a qwerty kybd
[01:03] <gilesa> bubu1uk: kubuntu on one comp and ubumtu on the other same prob on both
[01:03] <Mez> JosefK - no problem
[01:03] <bubu1uk> gilesa: u behing router?
[01:03] <Mez> !kdesvn is http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html
[01:03] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[01:03] <N6REJ> Minataku: this is what I meant when I said 1994..... March 1994  Linux kernel version 1.0 is released
[01:03] <gilesa> bubu1uk: yes
[01:03] <Minataku> lol
[01:03] <N6REJ> I know cause I remember it well!!!
[01:03] <Mez> !no, kdesvn is <reply> See http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html for details on accessing KDE's code via SVN
[01:03] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[01:03] <Minataku> Linux is a Unix clone, written from scratch containing no AT&T code
[01:04] <N6REJ> by June of 94 I was using it
[01:04] <Minataku> In fact, many people don't know that Linux is JUST the kernel
[01:04] <Minataku> It's NOTHING ELSE
[01:04] <bubu1uk> gilesa: and what exactly is problem? just pointing to IP <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:04] <N6REJ> Minataku: yep, thats true...
[01:04] <n8k99> most of the other important tools are GNU
[01:04] <Minataku> Linux is also not based on Minix
[01:04] <N6REJ> Minataku: remember redhat 5.1  UGH!
[01:04] <grumbly> Minataku: and freebsd is the entire system.
[01:04] <Minataku> Linux was developed on Minix originally
[01:04] <grumbly> i need some help with amarok
[01:04] <Minataku> grumbly: Correct, the BSDs are Kernel and Userland
[01:05] <sinbad33_> looks like we're into sumthing good
[01:05] <gilesa> bubu1uk: well I'd just like to get the updates on my system as its new and I cant get them. As ar as I can tell its cause it goes to the wrong ip addie
[01:05] <grumbly> Minataku: I find comfort in that
[01:05] <JosefK> hehe, took me a while to notice it was websvn and not apache, got it check out now - thanks again
[01:05] <Alarm> hello. with what command can i upgrade-update the allready installed packages on my system ? apt-get update ?
[01:06] <Schuenemann> upgrade
[01:06] <bubu1uk> gilesa: seems like ur DNS is doin something wrong. althought i dont understand, why u can connect to net, just apt-get plays monkeys
[01:06] <Minataku> If you care to see the whole lineage of all the Unixes
[01:06] <N6REJ> Minataku: have you looked at solaris 10?
[01:06] <Minataku> http://www.levenez.com/unix
[01:06] <Minataku> N6REJ: I even have a Sun Ultra 5 to run it on
[01:06] <bubu1uk> gilesa: do u have firewall setup on router?
[01:06] <Minataku> Though I'ma drop her to Sol 9 because 10 is too slow on her
[01:06] <gilesa> bubu1uk: I'll try that
[01:06] <N6REJ> Minataku: I miss my sparc10 :D
[01:06] <dec_> hello maybe someone can help, I used the command from terminal sudo apt-get install teg
[01:06] <grumbly> Minataku: blech... boring.  I'm just sick of using pirated MS software to do the things I need, so I started with freebsd...
[01:06] <Alarm> Schuenemann,  that will only upgrade the installed packages or will also install other things that are not on my system at that moment ?
[01:06] <gilesa> bubu1uk: no
[01:06] <N6REJ> I just ordered the media kit from sun
[01:07] <Schuenemann> only the installed
[01:07] <Alarm> ok. thank you
[01:07] <dec_> after it downloaded and I thought installed, it returned that i should run sudo apt-get install updates
[01:07] <Minataku> N6REJ: My SPARCstation 10 is busted
[01:07] <dec_> now i can not find the application
[01:07] <Minataku> Arrived from eBay BAD
[01:07] <Minataku> lol
[01:07] <bubu1uk> gilesa: so no firewall on router at all?
[01:07] <Minataku> I should be getting replacement parts soon
[01:07] <Minataku> Hopefully it's just a bad CPU and not a bad MB
[01:07] <N6REJ> Minataku: ewwww that sucks... mine was missing a part and the part was like $400 so I said forget it.  sometimes I'm sorry I did.
[01:08] <gilesa> bubu1uk: not at the moment no its all new set up
[01:08] <grumbly> so, anyone know how to get amarok to store it's collection on a smb share?
[01:08] <Minataku> N6REJ: Ah
[01:08] <grumbly> cause thats where it is
[01:08] <bubu1uk> gilesa: new setup on linux, get that, but what bout router?
[01:08] <grumbly> and i cant play Nuthin'
[01:08] <Minataku> I have in the way of working Suns a SPARCstation 5/170
[01:08] <Minataku> The aforementioned Ultra 5
[01:08] <Minataku> And a SPARCstation LX
[01:08] <dec_> can anyone help as to where the application is or how do i start it?
[01:08] <grumbly> I had an ultra5
[01:08] <N6REJ> grumbly: you may have to set permissions or make a link
[01:09] <nnsense> hi !! :)
[01:09] <gilesa> its an old one my dad gave me, he said no fire wall
[01:09] <grumbly> N6REJ: but the fs is mounted,
[01:09] <N6REJ> Minataku: sweet!
[01:09] <grumbly> I hated the ultra5
[01:09] <bubu1uk> dec_: what app?
[01:09] <dec_> teg
[01:09] <N6REJ> grumbly: that doesn't mean anything, permissions are different.
[01:09] <N6REJ> !chmod | grumbly
[01:09] <ubotu> grumbly: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:09] <bubu1uk> !teg
[01:09] <ubotu> Come play teg with us!  (Like the board game Risk.)  Game will start when we get some players rounded up - get yourself set up and join quickly if you'd like to participate.  Install the "teg" package, run 'tegclient', and connect to server yarusso.no-ip.org, port 2000.  Ping tonyyarusso for more info.
[01:09] <grumbly> N6REJ: I know.... I was just hoping against hope it wasnt that
[01:09] <bartist> hello averybody
[01:10] <bartist> i had ubuntu dapper and everything was fine
[01:10] <bubu1uk> got it dec_?
[01:10] <Minataku> N6REJ: Yeah, I love the lunchbox SPARCs
[01:10] <N6REJ> grumbly: when you have problems in *nix its almost always something to do with permissions in one form or another.
[01:10] <bartist> now i run kubuntu edgy, and my sound es messed up ..
[01:10] <Alarm> what i find strange is that the canditate version on the upgrade is the same version with the installed. for example: avahi-deamon 0.6.13 to upgrade to to 0.6.13  . canditate version 0.6.13 , installed version: 0.6.13 . that should happen right ?
[01:10] <grumbly> I know
[01:10] <dec_> the problem is that when i installed teg it returned that i should run install updates when i did now i cannot find the app
[01:10] <N6REJ> Minataku: I want a nice mac monitor for my blue/white G3
[01:10] <ubuntu> algum de vcs falam portuguese
[01:10] <bartist> i've spent days on google to find out how to fix it
[01:10] <bartist> with no succes
[01:10] <Minataku> Ew...  Always askin for 'em, tryin to circumvent them,
[01:10] <Minataku> My only Mac is a 68k one
[01:11] <Minataku> Well past EOH... End Of Hatred
[01:11] <grumbly> see, the weird part is it plays the mp3s but cant make the collection db
[01:11] <N6REJ> Minataku: a friend gave me a b/w with MAX ram as a gift for developement :D
[01:11] <bubu1uk> dec_: try to reinstall
[01:11] <dec_> i did and it returned that it is already there
[01:11] <N6REJ> grumbly: that sounds like write permission problems in that folder
[01:11] <dec_> i am using apt-get install teg
[01:12] <Minataku> N6REJ: Nice
[01:12] <gilesa> bubu1uk: thanks for the help
[01:12] <gilesa> bye
[01:12] <bubu1uk> gilesa: dont' know really. u could check ur network settings, and setup DNS manually, but dont know if that helps
[01:12] <K-Ryan> dec_ you can't just get it through Add/Remove Programs?
[01:12] <grumbly> but the collection is stored locally
[01:12] <dec_> how do i do that
[01:12] <grumbly> er, the collection db
[01:12] <bubu1uk> dec_: sec
[01:12] <N6REJ> Minataku: yeah, its only a 500 but its sweet.  Did you notice the K7 kernel is now obsuficated in edgy?
[01:12] <K-Ryan> Go to your K Menu, then click Add/Remove Programs
[01:12] <dec_> don't understand
[01:13] <bubu1uk> dec_: wait a minute
[01:13] <K-Ryan> The icon that lets you pick games/internet/multimedia/office/etc.
[01:13] <Minataku> I don't even use Kubuntu
[01:13] <Minataku> I use Gentoo
[01:13] <Minataku> I was lured in here with free stuff
[01:13] <N6REJ> Minataku: ah... alot of folks do.
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:13] <grumbly> Minataku: you ever use gentoo with the freebsd kernel
[01:13] <N6REJ> Minataku: lol
[01:13] <K-Ryan> That's the K menu, go there then click Add/Remove programs
[01:13] <grumbly> ?
[01:13] <sleepy495> Whats a good KDE in pdf format I can print out?
[01:13] <Minataku> grumbly: I haven't
[01:13] <sleepy495> a kde guide
[01:14] <grumbly> that was an adventure setting up... not all that usefull, but if you've got a couple days, it's a challenge
[01:14] <dec_> went to add remove programs and it is not there
[01:14] <N6REJ> brb, gotta get some info from my windblows side.
[01:14] <grumbly> fun challenge
[01:14] <Minataku> Heh
[01:14] <K-Ryan> dec_ it's not under games?
[01:14] <dec_> no not under games
[01:14] <Minataku> Nah, if I'ma use the FBSD kernel I'ma use the FBSD userland too
[01:14] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, hold on
[01:14] <matthew> sleepy495, not sure what you mean....
[01:14] <Minataku> Portage tends to have a "mystery mix" of patches
[01:14] <Mez> sleepy495 - one sec
[01:15] <bubu1uk> dec_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[01:15] <sinbad33_> FBSD kernel?   FBSD userland?
[01:15] <Mez> sleepy495 http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/userguide.pdf
[01:15] <bubu1uk> dec_: should work. if understood man properly. lol
[01:15] <sleepy495> thanks!
[01:15] <Minataku> FBSD == FreeBSD
[01:16] <sinbad33_> Min, hah u been in here all afternoon havent u ?
[01:16] <matthew> sinbad33_, I prefer brandy, myself (and yes, I know, !offtopic)
[01:16] <Mez> !kdeguide is <reply> See http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/index.html for a guide to using KDE
[01:16] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[01:17] <dec_> just ran the reinstall and it seemed to run when it was finished i input teg in terminal and got nothing?
[01:17] <grumbly> Minataku: yeah, thats probably a great idea... but i was curious one night (for a week and a half)
[01:17] <Minataku> sinbad33_: Here in connection presence
[01:17] <Minataku> Not at the keyboard
[01:17] <Minataku> grumbly: rofl, whole new meaning to "long night"
[01:17] <bubu1uk> !ted
[01:17] <Minataku> XD
[01:17] <ubotu> ted: graphical RTF (Rich Text Format) editor, stable lesstif version. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17-1 (edgy), package size 654 kB, installed size 1732 kB
[01:17] <bubu1uk> ops
[01:17] <bubu1uk> !teg
[01:17] <ubotu> Come play teg with us!  (Like the board game Risk.)  Game will start when we get some players rounded up - get yourself set up and join quickly if you'd like to participate.  Install the "teg" package, run 'tegclient', and connect to server yarusso.no-ip.org, port 2000.  Ping tonyyarusso for more info.
[01:17] <bubu1uk> dec_: tegclient
[01:17] <Mez> bubu1uk - whats up ?
[01:17] <bubu1uk> u dont read messages here properly dont u?
[01:17] <grumbly> I still like the maintainence of freebsd-  Though if Kde is any indication, it shouldnt be too different in linux
[01:18] <grumbly> that came out way wrong
[01:18] <grumbly> but you get the idea
[01:18] <bubu1uk> Mez: ehm, nuffin. lol
[01:18] <Mez> bubu1uk - nvm - I just saw you say "ops"
[01:18] <bubu1uk> Mez: misspelled. wrote ted instead teg. lol
[01:18] <grumbly> so, to make a dir rw for all users, chown 777 yeh?
[01:18] <sinbad33_> HAHA
[01:19] <sinbad33_> *hiccups*
[01:19] <Mez> grumbly - technically 666 ;P
[01:19] <grumbly> what'd i type?
[01:19] <Mez> 777
[01:19] <grumbly> oh!
[01:19] <grumbly> hah
[01:19] <Mez> 666 = rw 777 = rwx
[01:20] <dec_> logged on yarrusso now what
[01:20] <grumbly> wth
[01:20] <grumbly> argh
[01:20] <bubu1uk> sinbad33_: u make me thirsty. lol
[01:20] <grumbly> I cant get amarok to frikkin build the collection
[01:20] <grumbly> arh
[01:21] <bubu1uk> Mez: sorry. ;)
[01:21] <bubu1uk> grumbly: why?
[01:21] <grumbly> it sees all the files, it plays them, but no dice.....
[01:21] <Mez> grumbly... kill it and restart it - then change it to use no folder for the collection, set it up to scan the right folders, then do it again
[01:21] <grumbly> dunno. its a blank collection
[01:21] <Mez> no dice ?
[01:21] <Alarm> how can i see number of open connections on linux ?
[01:21] <Mez> or
[01:21] <grumbly> Mez: doin it now... thanks for the idea
[01:21] <K-Ryan> no dice = not working
[01:21] <bubu1uk> grumbly: in tools menu choose rescan collection.
[01:21] <Mez> tools -> rescan collection
[01:22] <sinbad33_> alcopop??@#!
[01:22] <bubu1uk> grumbly: also i hope u setup folders to scan in settings.
[01:22] <rEvolution27> Goodnight everyone, here to pick your  brains again. If I ever want to move my OS to another hard drive saving all installed programs and all my files, is that possible?
[01:23] <grumbly> I think its actually scanning it now
[01:23] <grumbly> hrm... that was a little frustraticationizing
[01:23] <bubu1uk> alcopop: how u like that?
[01:23] <bubu1uk> :p
[01:23] <Mez> should be a lil status bar at the bottom
[01:23] <grumbly> yeh... it's at 0% still
[01:23] <Mez> grumbly - try donig it with around 200000 oggs
[01:23] <Mez> grumbly - it'll stay there for a while - it's annoying like that
[01:24] <kamelFrance> ls
[01:24] <grumbly> nah... I'm gonna stick with the 90k mp3s
[01:24] <bubu1uk> Mez: lol. true. i had only 8000.
[01:24] <bubu1uk> Mez: long time enough.
[01:24] <grumbly> and the best part is I actually OWN all that music
[01:24] <bubu1uk> Mez: he didn't get that, did he. with those oggs.
[01:25] <Mez> grumbly - me too - I'm a DJ / digital music artist in my spare time
[01:25] <grumbly> except for whatever my little sister decided to put in there from her collection (like ace of base and cold play
[01:25] <Mez> bubu1uk - ? ??
[01:25] <grumbly> )
[01:25] <grumbly> ick
[01:25] <bubu1uk> nm
[01:25] <Mez> tehres nothing wrong with cold play
[01:25] <Mez> lol
[01:25] <Mez> http://last.fm/users/mezola
[01:25] <grumbly> Mez: Sure there isnt.  but I hatem
[01:25] <grumbly> like i hate detective robert goren
[01:25] <bubu1uk> they not bad.
[01:26] <matthew> know how I know you're gay?  No matter what i do it tells me i need to set a root partition.
[01:28] <grumbly> it found very little
[01:28] <uberspaced> so, i installed kubuntu, and in firefox, / does not show up as a possible place to save
[01:28] <uberspaced> what a pain!
[01:29] <bubu1uk> grumbly: then u probably dont have watched folders properly setup
[01:29] <grumbly> yeh. i do
[01:29] <grumbly> it's something to do with sharing somewhere
[01:29] <uberspaced> is this new to firefox? or is KDE in this version of ubuntu told not to allow users to navigate to / when saving stuff?
[01:29] <Mez> uberspaced - it gives your a dropdown list, then like - an advanced button or something
[01:29] <Mez> or find more folders
[01:29] <Mez> use that
[01:29] <flipjarg> Has anyone here installed Edgy Eft?
[01:30] <dwidmann2> flipjarg: probably most of us
[01:30] <uberspaced> Mez, meh, symlinked solved it, i was just wondering if it's done on purpose?
[01:30] <bubu1uk> alcopop: lol
[01:30] <flipjarg> Did you have any problems with the install? i'm trying to install v. 6.10
[01:30] <bill_> so, I would like to put a shortcut to my home on kicker. would the command be konqueror '/home/bill' ? or should I add something else to it?
[01:30] <root_> I'm mounting samba share in fstab .. the line reads :  \\MARTIN-SERVER\BIIG (D)	/media/BIIG cifs	guest,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0    .....   but name of block device is being read as mount point because of the space in the name \\MARTIN-SERVER\BIIG (D)
[01:30] <dwidmann2> No, no problems here, I've been running it for months
[01:30] <root_> oops
[01:30] <root_> hi
[01:30] <root_> Im root
[01:31] <grumbly> root_: try using // instead of \\
[01:31] <dwidmann> Finally, it let me switch m y nick back ....
[01:31] <flipjarg> Hmm, i've done everything i can and even though i designate a root partition it tells me i need to set one.
[01:31] <jpiccolo> anyone know of a guide to make a usb key bootable without linux on it, just bootable
[01:31] <dwidmann> flipjarg: I'd give the alternate disk a try if I were you ... the partitioner in the livecd is flaky
[01:31] <root_> g
[01:32] <bill_> I would like to put a shortcut to my home on kicker. would the command be konqueror '/home/bill' ? or should I add something else to it?
[01:32] <flipjarg> Ah, yes it is. i had to reinstall windows because of it.
[01:32] <grumbly> grrrrr
[01:33] <grumbly> this be pissin me off
[01:33] <grumbly> so bab I be jamaican
[01:33] <n8k99> bill_ there is aa applet you can add to your kicker that does that
[01:33] <alcopop> HAHAHA
[01:33] <flipjarg> dwidmann: when you say an alternative disc do you mean to download from another mirror or is there another disc i can download?
[01:34] <Martiini> how do I make "space" part of mountpoint in fstab?
[01:34] <bill_> n8k99 - yeah I see that applet, but I would like it on the kicker menu not the panel
[01:34] <dwidmann> flipjarg: it's a different disk image ... it's called the alternate install disk, it looks a lot like the debian text mode installer
[01:34] <n8k99> oh on the k menu?
[01:34] <bill_> yes
[01:34] <flipjarg> Thanks dwidmann i'll give it a shot when i find it.
[01:35] <Martiini> who's from USA , hands up
[01:35] <n8k99> bill_ sounds like  kde wishlist item to me
[01:35] <Martiini> you, US people
[01:35] <Martiini> yo
[01:35] <bill_> I put the command konqueror '/home/bill' & it opens up my home, but not as fast as a desktop icon...so im wondering if I need to include a switch to the command (i.e. -u -S whatever)
[01:35] <alcopop> me us xpatriot
[01:35] <alcopop> soon to be rastaman
[01:35] <Martiini> americans up already?
[01:36] <dwidmann> up already? Hmm, it's only 7:37pm here ... not really all that late yet
[01:37] <Martiini> dont you mean am
[01:37] <dwidmann> no, it's 7:37pm
[01:37] <Martiini> 7:37am .. maybe?
[01:38] <bubu1uk> dwidmann: where u from?
[01:38] <dwidmann> currently residing just outside of Gordonsville, Virginia
[01:38] <Mez> @now
[01:38] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 16 2007, 00:38:44
[01:38] <mineur> 1:38 am...  I'm supposed to be sleeping :p
[01:40] <dwidmann> don't worry mineur[sleep] , sleep is overrated
[01:41] <Minataku> grumbly: np
[01:41] <mineur[sleep] > that's what I say too.... but then my girlfriend who's addicted to sleep starts over-worrying :)
[01:42] <Martiini> how do I make "space" part of mountpoint in fstab?
[01:42] <Martiini>  I'm mounting samba share in fstab .. the line reads :  \\MARTIN-SERVER\BIIG (D)/media/BIIG cifsguest,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0    .....   but name of block device is being read as mount point because of the space in the name \\MARTIN-SERVER\BIIG (D)
[01:43] <Martiini> quotes?
[01:43] <Martiini> Ive tried quotes ... didnt work
[01:43] <Mez> Martiini - why not just use smb4k
[01:43] <Mez> !smb4k | Martiini
[01:43] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[01:43] <Mez> takes care of teh mounting for you#
[01:43] <mineur[sleep] > sweet I need that lol
[01:44] <Martiini> not an answer .. but I'll give it a try
[01:44] <dwidmann> Martiini: you would definitely need quotes or something else to deal with those spaces, perhaps preceeding the spaces with a backslash would work
[01:45] <mineur[sleep] > btw is there a front end to configure samba?
[01:45] <mineur[sleep] > the server then
[01:45] <Mez> mineur - kcontrol has nice file sharing bit
[01:45] <bubu1uk> Martiiny: aint there problem with those brakes? it does problems in command line, i think.
[01:45] <jpiccolo> how would i go about making a usb stick bootable
[01:46] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: does ur bios support it?
[01:46] <jpiccolo> yes
[01:46] <bubu1uk> u should be able to enable it there
[01:47] <jpiccolo> but it needs a mbr i think
[01:47] <jpiccolo> it says no system disk
[01:48] <dwidmann> mineur[sleep] : in kcontrol, yes
[01:48] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: u installed on usb? it should make it somehow bootable
[01:48] <jpiccolo> no i dont want to install linux from the usb stick, i just want to make it bootable
[01:48] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: u tried to google for it? i found some solutions ages ago. but never tried.cuz my bios doens't support it
[01:48] <jpiccolo> and be able to run a program from it
[01:49] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: bootable OS u mean
[01:49] <jpiccolo> all the tuts i found where how to install linux from the usb
[01:49] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: from or on?
[01:49] <jpiccolo> i want to run a flash program from the stick
[01:50] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: something have to be bootable, so OS. aps run on kernel (either win kernel, if not linux)
[01:50] <jpiccolo> like making a floppy bootable, but i want to use a usb stick
[01:50] <bubu1uk> ah, got u now.
[01:50] <bubu1uk> but running what on it?
[01:50] <jpiccolo> ok hehe sometimes i guess i am not clear
[01:51] <grumbly> please dont laugh, but how do I start a stopped process if ctrl+x
[01:51] <grumbly> er, z
[01:51] <jpiccolo> no i just need a prompt from the usb stick to run a flash program
[01:51] <jpiccolo> like dos
[01:51] <bubu1uk> grumbly: i dont laugh, cuz dont know either. ;)
[01:51] <sorush20> is it okay to mix kubuntu repositories with parsix ones?
[01:51] <bubu1uk> like DOS is OS as well.
[01:52] <jpiccolo> ok so i need to find out how to install dos on the usb stick?
[01:52] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: u'll have to have some OS there runin.
[01:52] <bubu1uk> no app runs without OS.
[01:52] <dwidmann> Martiini, I on a wim decided to install/test smbfs ... seems to be working well. "//GAIA/SharedDocs /media/gaia smbfs rw 0 0"
[01:52] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: or go for some minimal linux distro.
[01:53] <bubu1uk> like puppy or dsl
[01:53] <jpiccolo> yeah but i cant run a exe in that
[01:57] <dwidmann> sorush20: I'm not familiar with the parsix ones, but if they work for you ... use them. If it complains about dependency problems, then it probably isn't a good idea.
[01:57] <bubu1uk> jpiccolo: then just install that software on usb instead prog files and run it from usb.
[01:58] <sorush20> there are about 28 packages in gnome that are supposed to be updated in by the source deb http://parsix.org/packages sid main, and on the home page it does say they can be used.. although the users on the parsix channel are low.
[01:59] <rEvolution27> why doesn't my adept have certain packages that i know are supposed to be there? Like gkrellm. Is there a repository i need to add or something?
[01:59] <endo602> in my grub bootloader i see two kernels there
[01:59] <endo602> how can i get rid of one
[01:59] <endo602> i think it is causing problems
[02:00] <bubu1uk> rEvolution27: u have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[02:00] <rEvolution27> i'll check
[02:00] <bubu1uk> endo602: i have 3 kernels in grub menu. doestn really matter how many
[02:01] <rEvolution27> btw all my repos are dapper for some reason
[02:01] <bubu1uk> and u r on?
[02:02] <rEvolution27> lol nvm apt-update fixed it
[02:03] <rEvolution27> but why don't i have the edgy repos?
[02:03] <BluesKaj> endo602, don't worry about the other kernels , just be thankful , they're backups :0
[02:05] <bonbonthejon> anyone know a lot about svn
[02:06] <BluesKaj> rEvolution27, check this out : http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-csudo%20dpkg-reconfigure%20xserver-xorgomplete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[02:06] <rEvolution27> tnx
[02:06] <rEvolution27> i need all the help i can get ;)
[02:07] <BluesKaj> np
[02:08] <BluesKaj> !svn
[02:08] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[02:08] <BluesKaj> !cvs
[02:08] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:09] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: thanks, ill try looking there
[02:11] <dsmith> hi dawn
[02:11] <dawn> Hi Doug
[02:11] <dawn> how was your day
[02:11] <dsmith> good
[02:11] <dsmith> you?
[02:11] <dawn> thats good
[02:11] <dawn> fine
[02:11] <dsmith> do you like your kubuntu?
[02:11] <dawn> got alot done
[02:11] <dawn> yes i do
[02:11] <dawn> its cool
[02:11] <dsmith> ahhh sweet
[02:11] <dawn> buddy
[02:12] <dawn> yhank you
[02:12] <dawn> for helping me put it on
[02:12] <dawn> your the man
[02:12] <dsmith> ;)
[02:12] <dsmith> np
[02:12] <dawn> >:O)
[02:16] <kc> Hi everyone, when you shut down kubuntu can you have it show all the processes its stopping like ubuntu does?
[02:16] <dsmith> hmmmm
[02:16] <dsmith> never knew Ubuntu does that...
[02:16] <Jucato> I think he means the one in usplash
[02:17] <kc> I"m just a rookie so I might not have stated that corrrectly.
[02:17] <dsmith> <---- rookie too
[02:17] <dsmith> :)
[02:18] <kc> When I tried ubuntu, when I shut it down it would go to a screen that looked like the shell(full screen though) and list a bunch of stuff one line at a time, with OK at the end of each line
[02:18] <dsmith> lol
[02:18] <dsmith> oh
[02:18] <Jucato> kc: hm.... Ubuntu Edgy?
[02:18] <dsmith> I know what your talking about
[02:18] <dsmith> the DOS stuff
[02:18] <dsmith> command line
[02:18] <kc> I think it was breezy
[02:18] <Jucato> oh...
[02:18] <kc> yes
[02:19] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:19] <kc> my kubuntu sometimes hangs on shutdown
[02:19] <dsmith> why do you want to see it?
[02:19] <dsmith> oh nm
[02:19] <dsmith> hmmm
[02:19] <bubu1uk> kc: u definitely can do that, but dunno how. lol
[02:19] <dsmith> I dont know either
[02:19] <dsmith> I would say sure you can do that
[02:19] <Jucato> about shutting down not showing the splash screen... that means it's a bit broken...
[02:20] <bubu1uk> Jucato: he just want's to see all proceses that are stoppin.
[02:20] <kc> I sometimes get a white screen, then black and it shuts down.  Occasionally the monitor goes crazy with lines all across it, and thats when it hangs
[02:20] <bubu1uk> kc: tried F1 or F2?
[02:20] <kc> its onboard intel 945g
[02:21] <Jucato> bubu1uk: I know. but under normal circumstances, during shutdown, the shutdown splash screen should show up. if it doesn't, then there's something wrong
[02:21] <Jucato> Alt+F1 would only spit out messges if the "quiet" option is removed
[02:21] <kc> i think i have seen that, the blue kubuntu with the little blue line in the middle of the screen?
[02:22] <Jucato> in /boot/grub/menu.lst, there are options to turn off the splash screen and to show the messages
[02:22] <bubu1uk> Jucato: under normal circumstances yes. not if u change it lol.
[02:22] <Jucato> bubu1uk: that wouldn't be a "normal circumstance", would it? :P
[02:22] <bubu1uk> aint' it just for boot up process?
[02:22] <bubu1uk> Jucato: that definitely would. :)
[02:22] <Jucato> I think it does for both.
[02:23] <kc> i just changed grub to show the menu on boot, i guess when i shut it down i'll see.
[02:24] <bubu1uk> hmm, now i'd like to know if my yum freezes or actually does some work. lol. (offtopic of course. lol)
[02:24] <Jucato> kc: um... that's different...
[02:24] <Jucato> look for the entry for your kernel near the bottom. the grouped entries with "title", "root", "initrd", etc
[02:24] <Jucato> yum.... :P
[02:25] <Jucato> kc: in the "root /vmlinuz-...." line, remove the "quiet" option to see status messages and remove "splash" to turn of the splash screen
[02:26] <bubu1uk> Jucato: lol. ur' faster. was just bout to write that. :p
[02:26] <Jucato> take note that if you turn off quiet, but leave splash on, you will have "pretty" messages in the splash screen, like Dapper's. if on the other hand you turn off splash and leave quiet on, you will have no splash screen, but no or few status messages too
[02:26] <kc> is it this line
[02:27] <kc>   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:27] <dwidmann> or not so pretty messages, if you encounter usplashes many bugs :\
[02:27] <Jucato> kc: yes. if that's the kernel you boot into (which is the default)
[02:28] <kc> yes, its the only one other than the recover
[02:28] <Jucato> then that would be it
[02:28] <kc> so i just delete "quiet"
[02:30] <Jucato> see my "note" above
[02:30] <sorush20> is there any way that I could upgrade and downgrade ?
[02:30] <sorush20> I want to try a few packages from another repository before I carryon can I undo this and use the old packages?
[02:31] <tamacracka> Hey guys?
[02:31] <tamacracka> i need to download and install something called "lynx" onto nicotine
[02:31] <tamacracka> does anyone know about that?
[02:32] <BluesKaj> prolly a python thing
[02:32] <matthew> !lynx
[02:32] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[02:32] <bubu1uk> Jucato: lol. i think my fedora will go to bin. altough i like it. yum does still have some problems. on server i stick still with ubuntu. ;)
[02:32] <tamacracka> it's for me to get google time when i use /gtime "city"
[02:32] <BluesKaj> nicotine runs on python
[02:32] <matthew> lynx is a text-based internet browser
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !nicotine
[02:32] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[02:33] <BluesKaj> !python
[02:33] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:33] <tamacracka> matthew how can i get this lynx?
[02:33] <matthew> tamacracka, uh, sudo apt-get install lynx
[02:33] <tamacracka> thanks :P
[02:33] <tamacracka> gonna try it
[02:33] <bubu1uk> tamacracka: or thru adept.
[02:33] <Jucato> !lynx
[02:33] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[02:33] <matthew> tamacracka, if that doesn't work, sudo apt-cache search lynx
[02:33] <Jucato> er...
[02:33] <Jucato> !info lynx
[02:33] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1077 kB, installed size 4568 kB
[02:34] <tamacracka> ok
[02:34] <Jucato> ^^^^^^^
[02:35] <PPAAUULL> anyone know anything about beryl?
[02:36] <Jucato> !beryl | PPAAUULL
[02:36] <ubotu> PPAAUULL: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:37] <PPAAUULL> ok I guess not then
[02:37] <PPAAUULL> lol
[02:39] <K-Ryan> Anyone know any software that I could resize a video with?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> tovid
[02:41] <BluesKaj> or Kino video editor
[02:41] <K-Ryan> Either or?
[02:41] <K-Ryan> Or is one better?
[02:42] <tamacracka> eeeek
[02:42] <tamacracka> it doesn't connect to google
[02:42] <matthew> tamacracka, did it work for ya?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> actually Kino is prolly what you're looking for, K-Ryan
[02:42] <tamacracka> yeah it installed
[02:42] <K-Ryan> Thanks BluesKaj
[02:42] <BluesKaj> np
[02:42] <tamacracka> but seems like google doesn't like it lol
[02:43] <matthew> prolly because google is so little text...it's mostly graphical and a text field...
[02:43] <BluesKaj> tamacracka, wtf are you taliking about?
[02:43] <tamacracka> lol
[02:43] <tamacracka> i scroll to google
[02:44] <tamacracka> and i get a 400 Bad Request
[02:44] <tamacracka> yeah matthew that's what i was thinkin
[02:44] <BluesKaj> well don't clutter up with yer comments , it's confusing for others
[02:45] <matthew> BluesKaj, chill out. that's the way things work here.
[02:46] <BluesKaj> I'm chilled , it's NOT the way things work here
[02:46] <tamacracka> >.>
[02:46] <tamacracka> BluesKaj go smoke some pot man... and calm down :P
[02:46] <Jucato> way things work here??
[02:46] <matthew> yes. people talk back and forth. the conversation is public so others may follow along.
[02:46] <tamacracka> thanks anyways matthew ill see what i can do
[02:46] <matthew> tamacracka, ok, see ya later
[02:46] <tamacracka> see you again!
[02:48] <BluesKaj> wow ...yer telling an old hippie to chillout  :) ..now that's funny
[02:48] <matthew> lol, yeah... BluesKaj, we good?
[02:53] <rEvolution27> anyone have some good linux file sharing (p2p) programs for linux?
[02:53] <matthew> rEvolution27, uh, bit torrent?
[02:54] <Jucato> ktorrent for bittorrent
[02:54] <rEvolution27> yeh i know
[02:54] <Jucato> then there's amule, frostwire, and apollon for the others...
[02:54] <rEvolution27> these any good?
[02:55] <rEvolution27> which do you recommend?
[02:55] <Slackwise> FrostWire
[02:55] <rEvolution27> k
[02:55] <Slackwise> FrostWire is the fully open sourced version of LimeWire
[02:55] <rEvolution27> oh
[02:55] <Slackwise> So if the company that runs LimeWire gets RIAA'd to the ground, FrostWire will live on.
[02:56] <Jucato> rEvolution27: I really don't. I only use ktorrent
[02:56] <Slackwise> FrostWire and BitTorrent are the way to go, to get your file sharing needs.
[02:56] <matthew> I like azureus.
[02:56] <rEvolution27> yeh
[02:56] <rEvolution27> i find bit torrent a bit slow at times
[02:57] <matthew> rEvolution27, have you port forwarded ports on your router?
[02:57] <rEvolution27> umm i don't think so (but then again i dunno what that is)
[02:57] <Slackwise> Just turn on UPnP on your router, then use a compatible client. :P
[02:57] <matthew> rEvolution27, google port forward
[02:58] <rEvolution27> ok
[02:58] <kc> some ISP's are blocking or throttling bitorrent
[02:58] <matthew> it basically opens ports on your router to allow you to accept incoming anonymous connections (bittorrent traffic)
[02:59] <matthew> kc, azureus provides encryption schemes
[02:59] <rEvolution27> my isp won't jail me for this right?
[02:59] <rEvolution27> lol
[02:59] <kc> i enabled that on ktorrent,is azureus better?
[02:59] <bubu1uk> rEvolution27: no if u dont download copyrighted stuff. lol
[02:59] <matthew> idk...ktorrent doesn't really work for me...I use azureus...but it's pretty resource intensive....
[03:00] <bubu1uk> kc: i think personal preference
[03:00] <matthew> azureus is a java app...
[03:00] <kc> i got up to 60-70K on one file, another was 6K, just like dial up
[03:00] <bubu1uk> i use rtorrent. lol. not much resources. console based so can even ssh .
[03:01] <bubu1uk> easy to manage. all i need.
[03:01] <matthew> rtorrent, aye?
[03:01] <matthew> gotta check that one out...
[03:01] <bubu1uk> kc: u should understand also how sharing works.
[03:01] <matthew> I've got a server that's doing nothing....
[03:01] <bubu1uk> mathew: lol. run it on my server as well.
[03:02] <rEvolution27> my dl speed is very slow and tuff get's stalled alot
[03:02] <K-Ryan> http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1618/snapshot1sp1.jpg
[03:02] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:02] <bubu1uk> kc: down/upspeed is not allways because off network or system  issues
[03:03] <bubu1uk> i download sabayon linux torrent for example now and get only 3 kb down.
[03:03] <rEvolution27> 12 seeders
[03:03] <kc> as in not enough people sharing the file?
[03:03] <bubu1uk> kc: yes, also if they actually logged in that time, free slots etc.
[03:04] <kc> the couple of files i did get i was uploading way faster than i was getting others
[03:04] <bubu1uk> rEvolution27: does it tell u to how many ur connected and how many have opened line with u aka from whom ur downloadin
[03:05] <bubu1uk> that's torrents, sometimes works, sometimes dont
[03:05] <bubu1uk> and sometimes dead. lol
[03:05] <kc> doesn't ktorrent have a shares tab? or something like that
[03:06] <bubu1uk> nope
[03:06] <bubu1uk> !torrent
[03:06] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:06] <bubu1uk> read faq
[03:06] <kc> how abuot peers then
[03:07] <bubu1uk> p2p connection is when both system operate as server and client for each other
[03:08] <kc> for those that helped with my last question, removing quiet caused the system to hang the 2 times I tried shutting it down, screen like a tartan.  Removing splash also seems to have worked, lots of text flying by.
[03:10] <bubu1uk> kc: so it works how u wanted now?
[03:10] <matthew> lol, kc wants a _true_ hackers machine...
[03:10] <kc> seems to, thanks, although its not as neatly formatted as it was for ubuntu
[03:11] <kc> thats way over my head
[03:11] <bubu1uk> kc: it's allways different. on many distros
[03:11] <bubu1uk> kc: good to know. will have to remember that solution. lol
[03:12] <kc> ya, i don't know if its a video issue, I can hear the CRT monitor click away changing resolutions
[03:12] <bubu1uk> matthew: lol. he should go 4 gentoo or slacware without GUI then.
[03:12] <matthew> lol, yeah
[03:13] <matthew> gentoo for sure...
[03:13] <bubu1uk> kc: probably its only cuz xorg changes it.
[03:13] <matthew> bubu1uk, I tried gentoo, but I guess I don't have the mindset (nor the patience) required....
[03:14] <kc> its getting something wrong because the monitor is left with a pile of coloured lines on it
[03:14] <bubu1uk> matthew: kinda true. lots of reading, surfing etc
[03:14] <matthew> I was simply looking for the easy, out of the box solution.....
[03:15] <bubu1uk> kc: it's probably then hardware driver problem.
[03:15] <bubu1uk> matthew: just bout to try sabayon, if will work. 3.25c didn work on my laptop. just didnt even start installer. that's gentoo based.
[03:15] <kc> how can you tell what version of video drivers came with kubuntu?
[03:15] <bubu1uk> if not, goin back to gentoo.
[03:16] <bubu1uk> kc: what graphic card?
[03:16] <kc> onboard intel 945g
[03:17] <bubu1uk> matthew: been happy with fedora for ages. whole fc4 era. with fc5 things went wrong, so changed.
[03:17] <matthew> bubu1uk, lemme know how that turns out...looks fantastic!
[03:17] <matthew> you don't like ubuntu?
[03:17] <bubu1uk> matthew: server is ubuntu.
[03:17] <bubu1uk> just laptop.
[03:17] <bubu1uk> to play with something else. lol
[03:17] <matthew> ah, but as a desktop environment, it's a no-go?
[03:18] <bubu1uk> didnt get that question
[03:18] <bubu1uk> kc: u might need to look for kernel modules.
[03:19] <matthew> bubu1uk, I'm asking if you like/dislike ubuntu as a desktop environment...
[03:19] <kc> oh boy, not there yet
[03:19] <william> what could be some of the problems with the stand alone ltsp server
[03:19] <kc> can't adept fix it <g>
[03:20] <bubu1uk> matthew: well, use kde actually, although i have gnome and xfce4 installed.
[03:20] <neddiW> hi, i wanna know, how can i automount and ipod or usb drive?
[03:20] <bubu1uk> and that is same on all distros. lol. maybe not as basic config, but u can change it. :p
[03:20] <matthew> so you like kubuntu/xubuntu? I'm just wondering (no distro-specific rage intended!)
[03:20] <neddiW> i run kubuntu 6.06
[03:20] <matthew> neddiW, why?
[03:20] <bubu1uk> neddiW: should work automaticly
[03:21] <matthew> neddiW, sudo mount /dev/device
[03:21] <bubu1uk> matthew: yes, of course i like it. was thinkin bout putting kubuntu on laptop as well. but just wanted something else.
[03:21] <matthew> where device is the device number of usb device (generally sda1, sdab1
[03:21] <matthew> , etc...)
[03:21] <bubu1uk> matthew: he wants to setup automount,
[03:22] <matthew> bubu1uk, ah, you're one of those *gasp* people who get out of their comfort zones
[03:22] <bubu1uk> as it will do it for him automaticly
[03:22] <bubu1uk> matthew: lol. not really.
[03:22] <neddiW> matthew, it does not mount automatically, dunno why :S
[03:22] <matthew> bubu1uk, ah, right...sorry! seems like it should...isn't there an automount script buried in /etc somewhere?
[03:23] <neddiW> matthew, "
[03:23] <neddiW> sudo mount /dev/sda2
[03:23] <neddiW> Password:
[03:23] <neddiW> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:23] <bubu1uk> neddiW: sda1?
[03:23] <bubu1uk> !automount
[03:23] <tamacracka> Question... youtube videos keep stuttering a long with the sound.
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <tamacracka> what can i do?
[03:24] <bubu1uk> hmm
[03:24] <bubu1uk> !mount
[03:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:24] <matthew> tamacracka, do you have the latest Flash 9 beta?
[03:24] <tamacracka> im pretty sure i do.
[03:24] <matthew> well then, Idk...sorry
[03:24] <tamacracka> what is the command to check the version, please?
[03:25] <phobiac> How do I use chmod to assign a directly to a user?
[03:25] <phobiac> chomd -R something
[03:25] <matthew> type about:plugins in the firefox address bar
[03:25] <matthew> @tamacracka
[03:25] <bubu1uk> phobiac: chmod or chown?
[03:26] <phobiac> chmod
[03:26] <bubu1uk> phobiac: u tryin to change permitions or ownership?
[03:26] <phobiac> I think
[03:26] <phobiac> Ownership
[03:26] <bubu1uk> chown then
[03:26] <phobiac> So chown what?
[03:26] <neddiW> bubu1uk, it supposed to i think
[03:26] <bubu1uk> man chown, but shorter help is sudo chown user:group -R file
[03:27] <neddiW> but it says sda2 for the ipod
[03:27] <phobiac> Thank you, that's what I needed.
[03:27] <bubu1uk> neddiW: what's ur sda1 then?
[03:28] <neddiW> bubu1uk, nothing i dont have anything more mounted
[03:28] <tamacracka>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[03:28] <tamacracka>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55
[03:28] <bubu1uk> neddiW: so it should be sda1 then.
[03:28] <bubu1uk> i think
[03:28] <tamacracka> i have 3 shockwave plugins ><
[03:28] <bubu1uk> try mount /dev/sda1
[03:32] <bubu1uk> neddiW: try to have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:32] <grumbly> hello...  Is there an m4a codec for kde?
[03:32] <juano> neddiW: sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[03:33] <juano> neddiW: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod
[03:34] <bubu1uk> juano: it told him it cant find sda2 in fstab/mtab. dont' think that will help
[03:34] <startswithz_> does anyone have beryl on kubuntu?
[03:34] <juano> bubu1uk: the line mount /dev/sda2 is wrong, your not giving mount point
[03:35] <juano> bubu1uk: it wont find it cause its not mounted, and to mount it you dont put mount /dev/sda1 , you need to declare the mount point, that would be some dir where you want to mount the sda1
[03:35] <bubu1uk> juano: ah, right, forgoten bout that. usually do it /media/something.
[03:35] <juano> bubu1uk: yeah
[03:35] <Schuenemann> what can I do so every time I time 'opera' it runs /usr/lib/opera/opera ?
[03:36] <Schuenemann> everytime I type*
[03:36] <bubu1uk> juano: i think bit too late for me. forgoten to do so many things today. brain is not working very well today. lol.
[03:37] <juano> bubu1uk: hehe lol, nah it happens
[03:37] <phobiac> Schuenemann: A bash script would work
[03:37] <juano> bubu1uk: everyone forgets stuff
[03:37] <Schuenemann> not a link?
[03:37] <phobiac> Look into google for how to write one
[03:37] <juano> bubu1uk: :) i forget many times
[03:37] <Schuenemann> symbolic link
[03:38] <phobiac> I have no idea, but I do know a bash script would work for sure.
[03:38] <bubu1uk> juano: it's good thats so many of us here. lol. every1 will remember 1 part and together we'll even make a command. :p
[03:38] <juano> Schuenemann: phobiac: yes, it should work with a script
[03:38] <Schuenemann> I would like to type opera anywhere, a shell script won't do that... will it?
[03:38] <juano> bubu1uk: LOL yes
[03:38] <Schuenemann> I'd have to type it in the shell script's directory
[03:39] <dwidmann> Schuenemann, put said script in /usr/bin or some other directory that's in your path
[03:40] <juano> Schuenemann: yeah, create a script that calls opera.sh and put it in your path dirs
[03:40] <mshade-laptop> Schuenemann: what's the problem you're having?
[03:40] <juano> Schuenemann: do what dwidmann suggests
[03:40] <Schuenemann> mshade-laptop: it's not exacly a problem... I would like to start opera without having to navigate to its directory
[03:41] <Schuenemann> just like I do with anything I install through apt-get
[03:41] <Mez> Schuenemann - right click the k menu
[03:41] <Mez> Schuenemann - edit menu
[03:41] <mshade-laptop> have you tried ln -s /path/to/opera /usr/local/bin/opera
[03:41] <Mez> and create a shortcut through that interface
[03:41] <Schuenemann> I was looking for that
[03:41] <Schuenemann> the link
[03:41] <neddiW> juano, thanks!
[03:42] <neddiW> bubu1uk, thanks!
[03:42] <mshade-laptop> :)
[03:42] <juano> neddiW: no problem :)
[03:42] <Schuenemann> the second argument is where the link will be created?
[03:42] <mshade-laptop> correct
[03:42] <mshade-laptop> ln -s source destination
[03:43] <ctothej> how do i configure vmware player to look at my second network card instead of the first one?
[03:43] <mshade-laptop> just like copy or move
[03:45] <neddiW> juano, after the commands you gave me, it mounts but when i unmount it does not mount automatically :(
[03:46] <neddiW> juano, when i tried to open the folder of the mounted ipod i says, An unknown error occured
[03:46] <juano> neddiW: you must add a line to your fstab or mtab
[03:46] <Schuenemann> mshade-laptop: how do I start it, then?
[03:47] <juano> neddiW: you could add a line to you mtab
[03:47] <juano> neddiW: one sec
[03:47] <mshade-laptop> Schuenemann: you should be able to type whatever you named the link anywhere
[03:47] <Schuenemann> mshade-laptop: that opera is a shell script
[03:47] <neddiW> juano, I'm sorry im new to this :(
[03:47] <mshade-laptop> should still work
[03:47] <neddiW> it says "Media Device: could not find iTunesDB on device mounted at /media/ipod. Should I try to initialize your iPod?"
[03:47] <Schuenemann> named? where did I name it?
[03:48] <mshade-laptop> the second part of your ln -s command
[03:48] <juano> neddiW: try clicking ok or yes there
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> hey everone... i cant uninstall wpasupplicant....not through adept or konsole
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> can someone please help?
[03:48] <Schuenemann> it was named opera
[03:48] <phobiac> Night all
[03:48] <mshade-laptop> have you tried just typing opera?
[03:48] <juano> neddiW: i recomend using amarok for ipod
[03:48] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:48] <mshade-laptop> and?
[03:48] <mshade-laptop> open a new xterm
[03:48] <dwidmann> /usr/bin/opera = shell script to start opera, /usr/lib/opera/9.10-20061214.6/opera = actual app
[03:48] <Schuenemann> I did
[03:49] <neddiW> juano, amarok gives the same error
[03:49] <mshade-laptop> you get a 'not found' error?
[03:49] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:49] <mshade-laptop> ls -l /usr/local/bin/opera (or wherever you put it)
[03:49] <lters_> can I update my sources in edgy and get the fiesty update?
[03:49] <mshade-laptop> make sure the link is pointing to the correct binary
[03:50] <juano> neddiW: cat /etc/mtab and paste it pls
[03:50] <Schuenemann> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2007-01-15 23:44 /usr/local/bin/opera -> opera
[03:50] <Schuenemann> it's not
[03:50] <juano> neddiW: use pastebin
[03:50] <mshade-laptop> Schuenemann: you need to use the full path
[03:50] <mshade-laptop> rm /usr/local/bin/opera
[03:50] <neddiW> juano, ok
[03:50] <mshade-laptop> ln -s /full/path/to/opera /usr/local/bin/opera
[03:50] <Schuenemann> I thought I did... yuck
[03:50] <juano> neddiW: is it plugged in now_
[03:50] <mshade-laptop> heh :) it's ok
[03:50] <juano> neddiW: ?*
[03:51] <Schuenemann> why do I need root for that?
[03:51] <mshade-laptop> Schuenemann: because /usr/local/bin/ is only writable by root
[03:51] <juano> Schuenemann: usually global dirs are better of modified as root
[03:51] <mshade-laptop> once you write it as root, it's readable to everyone in that particular location
[03:51] <Schuenemann> hmm
[03:52] <neddiW> juano, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1782/
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> hey everone... i cant uninstall wpasupplicant....not through adept or konsole
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> dpkg: error processing wpasupplicant (--remove):
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo>   what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> Aborted
[03:53] <juano> neddiW: you cant mount it_
[03:53] <ForzaPalermo> root@ThinkPadR40:~# Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:53] <ForzaPalermo>  wpasupplicant
[03:53] <ForzaPalermo>
[03:53] <juano> neddiW: whats the error?
[03:53] <ForzaPalermo> cant reinstall iit either
[03:54] <neddiW> juano, on amarok it says: "Media Device: could not find iTunesDB on device mounted at /media/ipod. Should I try to initialize your iPod?"
[03:54] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install --reinstall wpasupplicant
[03:54] <CVirus> !wine
[03:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:54] <K-Ryan> !3ddesktop
[03:54] <neddiW> i already did this and nothing...
[03:54] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[03:54] <juano> neddiW: what kind of ipod is it??
[03:54] <juano> neddiW: cause i have a motorola rokr and itunes just DOESNT work here :P
[03:55] <neddiW> 30gb video
[03:55] <juano> neddiW: but some other ipods work with it
[03:55] <neddiW> ohhh :S
[03:55] <juano> neddiW: usually some ipods work, motorola rokr is a whole different story though
[03:55] <neddiW> juano, oh well i dunno i have heard that is not the same
[03:56] <juano> neddiW: are you trying to sync itunes? or just mount it as a plain usb device?
[03:56] <grumbly> I'm getting an error with libtag 1.4.4 and reinstalling it dosn't resolve the issue.  what else could be causing it?
[03:57] <juano> neddiW: cause if you want to mount it as a plain usb device u can use this line:
[03:57] <Slackwise> Adept really needs to stop crashing every 5 seconds.
[03:57] <neddiW> juano, trying to sync some tunes on amarok
[03:57] <juano> neddiW: ahh..
[03:57] <juano> neddiW: anyway try using this line:
[03:58] <neddiW> the problem is that no usb o removable drive mounts automatically :(
[03:58] <neddiW> it did in the past but not now
[03:58] <neddiW> ok
[03:58] <juano> neddiW: /dev/sda2 /media/ipod vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[03:58] <neddiW> juano ok
[03:58] <juano> oh neddiW
[03:58] <juano> neddiW: did you run sudo mount -a?
[03:59] <neddiW> n ope
[03:59] <juano> neddiW: you should do it after changing fstab or mtab
[03:59] <neddiW> well i dunno how to change fstab or mtab
[03:59] <neddiW> juano, im a newbie :P
[04:00] <K-Ryan> i'm out for the night guys, cya
[04:00] <juano> neddiW: does the ipod appear in your desktop?
[04:00] <neddiW> juano, yes
[04:00] <juano> neddiW: have you tried rhythmbox?
[04:01] <juano> you could try rhythmbox, that was the closest one to sync my motorola rokr lol
[04:01] <neddiW> juano, let me try
[04:07] <malik_> how do i tell FF to play all real media files including smil.smi/rtsp files with real player instead of mplayer plugin?
[04:08] <unix_infidel> why not get real player codecs for mplayer and have mplayer handle it.
[04:10] <malik_> i accidently installed mplayer which does have real player codecs from ubuntu repos but it plays some files and some dont plus when it plays the whole window turns into mplayer window n site disappears
[04:10] <malik_> i have xine/Kmplayer(towork in konqi) /also now mplayer
[04:12] <malik_> and i installed FF becoz videos from msnbc and msn.com wouldn't play in konqi.............any suggestions?
[04:12] <neddiW> juano, im downloading rythmbox
[04:12] <juano> neddiW: ok
[04:13] <neddiW> juano, how can i edit the fstab o whatever is called :) to mount automatically the usb drives and ipod, etc?
[04:14] <juano> neddiW: try adding the line i gave you to the end of mtab, do gksudo gedit /etc/mtab
[04:14] <draik> Hello everyone
[04:14] <draik> How do I convert wmv format to create a DVD?
[04:15] <malik_> is any one able to play videos from msn.com in konqi?..........if yes can i be guided how to play that ?
[04:15] <malik_> draik: use k3b
[04:15] <draik> malik_: k3b will allow me to create a DVD?
[04:16] <draik> I have a few videos that I want to put to 1 DVD
[04:16] <neddiW> juano,
[04:16] <neddiW>  sudo gksudo gedit /etc/mtab
[04:16] <neddiW> (gksudo:1272): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[04:16] <neddiW>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[04:16] <juano> neddi
[04:16] <juano> neddiW: no
[04:16] <malik_> yes
[04:17] <juano> its gksudo gedit /etc/mtab
[04:17] <malik_> im tryin to make one so that i can tell u how to do that exactly
[04:17] <ForzaPalermo> hey everone... i cant uninstall wpasupplicant....not through adept or konsole. i get errors
[04:18] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: where did you say opera binary was?
[04:18] <draik> malik_: Trying to do one what?
[04:19] <malik_> draik: use k3b...........open k3b then goto file n then to new project n from there select new video dvd project and u shud be set
[04:19] <malik_> provided u have dvd burner
[04:19] <danny> hello guys, does anybody know where kmail stores the account settings?
[04:20] <Thehound666> I got a huge problem
[04:20] <dwidmann> /usr/lib/opera/9.10-20061214.6/
[04:20] <Hawai`i>  ive installed kubuntu and i installed proftpd to share files with friends, but my logs are filling up with trouble makers and i was wondering if theres any way to block the ip
[04:20] <draik> malik_: Thank you. I'm sorry. I was only looking at the main menu for that. Since I only have video, do I just place the wmv videos in VIDEO_TS?
[04:20] <Thehound666> I need disk space but as I delete files, my disk space is not increasing
[04:20] <Thehound666> it keeps saying same amount free
[04:20] <sampan> i've forgotten how to turn off the bouncy icons when i start a program, anyone remember which setting in kcontrol that is (on edgy)?
[04:21] <malik_> danny: goto settings>configure Kmail> n there u ll have it in the left hand panes
[04:21] <Thehound666> I deleted 5 gigs
[04:21] <Thehound666> no increase
[04:22] <Thehound666> and emptied trash
[04:22] <malik_> draik: i guess after u select ur video or after u have added it to the project just click on burn n u shud be set
[04:22] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: /usr/lib/opera/9.10-20061214.6
[04:22] <draik> malik_: Right. But do I add the video to the VIDEO_TS folder?
[04:23] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: how did you install it?
[04:23] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: the debian package
[04:23] <neddiW> juano, look
[04:23] <neddiW> juano, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1785/
[04:23] <dwidmann> or rather, the ubuntu package ... same deal really
[04:23] <Schuenemann> I got the tar.gz
[04:24] <Schuenemann> well, executing the binary directly doesn't work
[04:24] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: any reason why?
[04:24] <danny> file:///media/hdb/home/danny/Desktop/Business Documentation
[04:24] <danny> file:///media/hdb/home/danny/Desktop/Downloads
[04:24] <danny> file:///media/hdb/home/danny/Desktop/My Documents
[04:24] <danny> file:///media/hdb/home/danny/Desktop/Temp
[04:24] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: I know, you need to use the script to start it, /usr/bin/opera
[04:24] <Schuenemann> The Opera binary is not located at "./bin/opera".
[04:24] <Schuenemann> Please modify the wrapper script at "/usr/local/bin/opera".
[04:24] <danny> oops
[04:24] <Schuenemann> any reason why what?
[04:25] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: wait a minute, I guess that script wouldn't have been put th ere then, oops
[04:25] <malik_> draik:no u just add the video by clickin on it n leave the rest with k3b coz i think it will put some other files in that folder i just tried and ir doesnt let me put video files in there
[04:25] <danny> hello guys, does anybody know where kmail stores the account settings?
[04:25] <Schuenemann> that was the bin
[04:25] <malik_> danny: goto settings>configure Kmail> n there u ll have it in the left hand panes
[04:25] <draik> malik_: I was able to place videos in there, but it's still trying to burn them as data, not video
[04:25] <juano> neddiW: yea.. you can try it though
[04:25] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: might be better off backtracking, and using the *.deb to install it, that gives you all you need, menu entry, startup script, etc
[04:26] <juano> after that you do sudo mount -a
[04:26] <Schuenemann> I'll remove and use that
[04:26] <Thehound666> how do I recover disk space? It seems deleting files doesn't work
[04:26] <neddiW> juano, ok let me see
[04:27] <dwidmann> Thehound666: are you deleting files that are on the same partition that you want to free disk space in?
[04:27] <Thehound666> yes
[04:27] <Thehound666> I have 1 partition
[04:27] <Thehound666> besides swap
[04:27] <neddiW> juano,
[04:27] <neddiW> sudo mount -a
[04:27] <neddiW> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/mtab
[04:27] <Thehound666> it seems it's not updating free space
[04:27] <Thehound666> even after a reboot
[04:27] <Martiini> anyone know where I can get freenx ?
[04:28] <Martiini> !freenx
[04:28] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:28] <draik> malik_: Any other apps that can create a DVD from wmv for me?
[04:28] <dwidmann> thehound666, what are you using to check freespace? df -h works well
[04:28] <malik_> draik: i wudnt have clue then coz i dont have dvd burner so it doesnt let me pass the second step
[04:28] <Thehound666> right clicking folders then properties
[04:28] <Martiini> theres no freenx packages anymore
[04:28] <Thehound666> it's on the bottom
[04:28] <dwidmann> thehound666, the easiest way to free up a gig or so of space is to run "sudo apt-get clean"
[04:28] <Thehound666> and it's in rtorrent
[04:28] <Thehound666> I deleted 5 gigs
[04:28] <malik_> draik: check adept
[04:28] <Thehound666> how do I free that
[04:29] <juano> neddiW: gksudo gedit /etc/mtab and after the line you putted hit ENTER and put save
[04:29] <draik> malik_: Devede
[04:29] <juano> neddiW: and try again
[04:29] <Schuenemann> goal
[04:29] <Schuenemann> oops
[04:30] <didoman> hi
[04:30] <neddiW> juano, ok did it, everything ok :)
[04:30] <danny> malik: thanks but thats not what i need
[04:30] <Thehound666> didn't look as if it did anything
[04:30] <danny> i installed a new hard drive with kubuntu 6.06
[04:30] <juano> neddiW: can you access your ipod now?
[04:31] <Thehound666> ok it freed 200 MB
[04:31] <Thehound666> what about the 5 gigs I deleted?
[04:31] <dwidmann> thehound666, not sure
[04:31] <juano> anyone know how to sync to a motorola rokrs database???
[04:31] <malik_> draik: yes that shud do.........also there are one or two others
[04:31] <neddiW> juano, it says the same warning, "An unknown error occured"
[04:31] <danny> malik: and i want to copy my kmail settings from my old kubuntu 6.06 on an old hard drive to my new kubuntu on a new hard drive
[04:31] <Thehound666> well I need the disk space I removed the files for that reason
[04:31] <dwidmann> Thehound666: on the bright side, hdd space is relatively cheap :)
[04:31] <Thehound666> this is really bad
[04:32] <neddiW> juano, it tries to open the folder of the ipod but it says the message "An unknown error occured"
[04:32] <Thehound666> looking at a format it seems
[04:32] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: what do I do with that debian package?
[04:32] <dwidmann> thehound666, how much space does df -h say you have?
[04:32] <juano> neddiW: mmm... yeah ipods with itunes are a big deal in linux, cause theres no good support
[04:32] <Thehound666> -h?
[04:32] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: dpkg --install <packagename>
[04:32] <Schuenemann> thx
[04:32] <didoman> plz someone can tell me how can i play medias ?
[04:32] <dwidmann> thehound666: -h = human readable ... it'll show it in MB or GB instead of bytes
[04:32] <juano> neddiW: try sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[04:33] <malik_> danny: then u shud check it in the hidden files in ur home directory in old HDD
[04:33] <neddiW> juano, yeah :S
[04:33] <Schuenemann> what kind of medias?
[04:33] <juano> neddiW: then do sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod
[04:33] <didoman> videos
[04:33] <Thehound666> typed -h in konsole
[04:33] <didoman> for exp
[04:33] <neddiW> juano,
[04:33] <Thehound666> gave me a bash error
[04:33] <neddiW> sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[04:33] <neddiW> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/ipod': File exists
[04:33] <Thehound666> command not found
[04:33] <Schuenemann> you can't play anything?
[04:33] <juano> neddiW: hehe, you got it already
[04:33] <danny> malik: i already copied my old settings - it got everythin except the account settings themselves
[04:33] <juano> neddiW: ok, go inside /media/ipod
[04:33] <didoman> yes
[04:33] <dwidmann> thehound666, "df -h", -h is a switch for df ... the command for checking free space
[04:34] <neddiW> ok
[04:34] <juano> neddiW: can you see your ipod there?
[04:34] <rositass> alguien sabe espaol
[04:34] <juano> neddiW: i mean
[04:34] <danny> malik: plus it doesnt show my imap accounts
[04:34] <juano> neddiW:  the files from it
[04:34] <Schuenemann> didoman: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:34] <Schuenemann> !es | rositass
[04:34] <ubotu> rositass: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:34] <neddiW> juano, it says "media:/sda2"
[04:34] <neddiW> juano, im inside now
[04:34] <didoman> thank u
[04:34] <Thehound666> it only says 1 more GB than properties
[04:35] <neddiW> but i did a: "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod"
[04:35] <Thehound666> why are these files permanently occupying my HDD
[04:35] <Thehound666> after deletion
[04:35] <juano> neddiW: ok, yeah i really cant help with sync in itunes here
[04:35] <juano> neddiW: i tried myself a million times with a million programs
[04:35] <dwidmann> thehound666, which files did you delete ... maybe much of what you deleted were symbolic links, or something
[04:35] <juano> neddiW: and no luck in linux with my rokr
[04:35] <malik_> danny: /home/malik/.kde/share/apps n then copy the Kmail folder from there.............replace malik with ur home directory..................have u tried that?.............where did u copied the settings of kmail from?
[04:36] <Thehound666> an iso to the tune of 3.6 GB
[04:36] <Thehound666> and a 1.37 GB video
[04:36] <juano> neddiW: i even tried itunes through wine (app that lets you open windows applications) and no luck
[04:36] <dwidmann> thehound666, did you really delete, or just move to trash? Be sure to empty your trash bin
[04:36] <Schuenemann> that deb package is a hand on the wheel
[04:36] <Thehound666> move to trash->empty trash
[04:37] <didoman> schuenemann it works th u v muuuuch
[04:37] <danny> malik: yes exactly that directory in /home/danny/.kde/share/apps/kmail and kontact and knotes and korganizer
[04:37] <neddiW> juano, well maybe im out of luck :(
[04:37] <juano> neddiW: you can google it and see
[04:37] <neddiW> juano, thanks for your patience and help . learned a lot :)
[04:37] <neddiW> juano, thats what i will do :)
[04:37] <neddiW> juano, thanks!
[04:37] <shahid> anyone know what program i can use to edit a PSD (Photoshop) file?
[04:38] <mshade-laptop> gimp
[04:38] <dwidmann> thehound666: try using filelight,k it will tell you where the most space is being taken up at
[04:38] <juano> neddiW: anytime :) wish you good luck :)
[04:38] <Thehound666> ok did 1 more file at 700 MB(I have these backed up)
[04:38] <mshade-laptop> krita
[04:38] <dwidmann> you'll have to apt-get install it first though
[04:38] <shahid> does it edit text?
[04:38] <matthew> anyone have any experience w/ rtorrent? I'm having trouble w/ starting a torrent....
[04:38] <mshade-laptop> they both work for psd
[04:38] <juano> neddiW: oh and by the way, if you get somethin neat ring the bell lol
[04:38] <Thehound666> filelight k
[04:38] <Thehound666> the 700 MB file showed free space
[04:39] <neddiW> juano, ok i will ;)
[04:39] <shahid> i have the gimp installed already, but can't figure out how to edit text, how do i do that with the gimp?
[04:39] <Thehound666> see it in google
[04:39] <Thehound666> am I stuck compiling it?
[04:39] <shahid> also how do upload my website to the web in ubuntu?
[04:39] <malik_> danny: then i am sorry ..........im a newb myself
[04:39] <Thehound666> all I see is rpm and tared source
[04:40] <danny> malik: ok thanks for the effort, anyway do you happen to know the irc channel for kmail?
[04:41] <dwidmann> thehound666: sudo aptitude install filelight
[04:44] <malik_> i think it will b kmail or kontact n if not then just kubuntu i suppose where u already are
[04:45] <Thehound666> filelight is reporting correct disk usage btw
[04:45] <Thehound666> Kubuntu is not
[04:45] <matthew> never mind, I figured it out
[04:45] <danny> malik: ok thanks it looks like it doesnt have an irc channel of its own
[04:46] <Minataku> What's a good CLI program to author an audio CD?
[04:46] <matthew> cdrecord
[04:46] <matthew> !cdrecord | Minataku
[04:46] <Minataku> Author, not write
[04:46] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 567 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[04:46] <Minataku> I know cdrecord already
[04:46] <matthew> oh, whoops...what do you mean, author?
[04:46] <Minataku> Make the CD, I don't think mkisofs is the right tool
[04:46] <matthew> !k3b
[04:46] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[04:47] <Thehound666> so now to get Kubuntu to report what filelight reports
[04:47] <Minataku> CLI
[04:47] <Thehound666> open to suggestions
[04:47] <Minataku> Not GUI
[04:47] <Minataku> lol
[04:47] <matthew> ooops, sorry....
[04:47] <malik_> danny: are u there goto this place n copy this file /home/malik/.kde/share/config and copy kmailrc it has ur account details
[04:48] <Minataku> Oh, snap
[04:48] <Minataku> cdrecord WILL do it
[04:48] <Minataku> :O
[04:48] <malik_> danny: are u there goto this place n copy the file from  /home/malik/.kde/share/config and copy "kmailrc" it has ur account details
[04:48] <danny> malik_: ok sorry i didnt see the underscore for your name :)
[04:48] <Minataku> matthew: Cancel that help, turns out cdrecord can do it
[04:49] <Minataku> lol
plz how can i install plugin for firefox
[04:49] <matthew> yay!
[04:50] <Thehound666> we know the files got deleted but Kubuntu refuses to update stats
[04:50] <matthew> I'm still kind of confused with rtorrent...anyone want to help?
[04:50] <malik_> danny: try that last step i pasted n lemme know if it works
[04:50] <Schuenemann> what plugin?
[04:50] <Thehound666> any way to force it?
[04:50] <Thehound666> since filelight sees it
[04:50] <danny> malik_: aight just a sec
[04:50] <manchicken> !bzr
[04:50] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[04:50] <didoman> realplayer
[04:51] <Schuenemann> hmmm I never installed that, but then you open a page that requires it, don't you have an option to install?
[04:51] <Minataku> matthew: Heh, sorry about that X3
[04:52] <matthew> Minataku, sorry for what? the cdrecord thing? no prob...
[04:53] <Minataku> matthew: :3
[04:55] <seven11> how do i connect to kpf?
[04:56] <Thehound666> do I need to format to correct this?
[04:56] <Thehound666> getting close to doing so
[04:57] <danny> malik_: !!!
[04:57] <danny> malik_: !!!
[04:57] <danny> malik_: it worked!
[04:57] <Thehound666> Kubuntu says 178 GB used, filelight says 169 GB used
[04:58] <Thehound666> 169 is now about correct
[04:58] <malik_> danny: hehehehehe..............glad i cud be any help
[04:59] <Thehound666> hmmm no torrenting with Kubuntu. Seems I can't get space back
[04:59] <Thehound666> :(
[04:59] <Minataku> Mmmmm... pthalocyanine
[04:59] <danny> malik_: man thanks a lot i cudnt find that in google - anywAy howd u know the config file for kmail?
[05:00] <Thehound666> going to format.
[05:01] <Thehound666> is there any way to unmount my drive and remount it, making it think it found a new drive?
[05:01] <Thehound666> long shot but my last hope
[05:02] <malik_> danny: well i just poked around in all the directories in .kde n then went to config instead of apps since we had already tried that n then found that text file n opened it to c whats in there n Bingo!
[05:02] <matthew> I'm having trouble with rtorrent...anyone want to help me?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> matthew,  elaborate...
[05:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <danny> malik_: thanks again man you just made my day :) :) :)
[05:03] <malik_> danny: u r welcome mate
[05:03] <joshy> re
[05:03] <matthew> lol, yeah...I'm having trouble having torrents work...they are "activated" and start, but my test torrent (ubuntu server 6.10) is stuck at no d/l and no u/l and only 1.2 megs downloaded...I'm on a 4.3Mbps cable line.
[05:03] <matthew> Elaborate?
[05:04] <sampan> grrrr, how can i kill these bouncing icons when i start an app?
[05:04] <malik_> matthew: sounds like a bad torrent
[05:04] <Carbon_Monoxide> hello
[05:04] <joshy> Carbon_Monoxide: moin
[05:04] <matthew> no way! it's the torrent for a copy of ubuntu, no way it's bad!
[05:05] <Carbon_Monoxide> my Kubuntu performed a disk scan while starting, and said it found some non-contingous block. How can I check the detail of that scan performed?
[05:05] <malik_> Dr_willis: can u help me with associatinmg all the real media files with real player 10 instead of mplayer codec?
[05:06] <malik_> Dr_willis: or if u can tell me how to change a files association in FF that wud be great too
[05:07] <Carbon_Monoxide> because I'm afraid my ext3 partition was damaged by malwares and trojans which affected by WindozXP recently
[05:09] <Dr_willis> malik_,  i cant even rember the last time i used/played any real media stuff..
[05:10] <malik_> Dr_willis: oki then just can u plz tell me how to change a files handler in FF coz it doesnt even open the links starting with mms?
[05:12] <malik_> Jucato: are you at your comp mate?
[05:12] <Jucato> malik_: barely
[05:12] <malik_> hehehehehehe
[05:13] <Jucato> how may I be of service (before I rush off to lunch)
[05:13] <malik_> Jucato: can u tell me how to change a files handl;er application in firefox?
[05:13] <Jucato> um.. unfortunately, I'm  not a fox user...
[05:13] <Jucato> about:config gives you nothing?
[05:14] <malik_> Jucato: my real player 10 doesnt pick any thing in FF or even in konqi
[05:15] <Hobbsee> malik_: what are you trying to do, sorry?
[05:16] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee
[05:16] <Hobbsee> heya
[05:16] <Jucato> malik_: really sorry... you asked 2 of things I don't use... Firefox and Real Player...
[05:16] <malik_> i am tryin to play real media files ...........some come as smil some as rstp and both konqi or FF dont recongnise it
[05:16] <Hobbsee> malik_: edit, preferences, config....
[05:17] <crusty> hello! looking for a good program to convert avi in to wmv........any advice???? many thanks
[05:17] <Hobbsee> filetypes section, manage
[05:17] <dannybuntu> dannybuntu: hoy kain na kanina ka pa dito
[05:17] <dannybuntu> dannybuntu: kain na
[05:17] <Hobbsee> dannybuntu: english only please
[05:18] <Jucato> lol
[05:18] <Jucato> dannybuntu: yeah, gonna eat lunch now :)
[05:18] <danny> :)
[05:18] <dannybuntu> :)
[05:19] <malik_> Hobbsee: and then where or how should i change since i dont see any real media files in files types menu?
[05:19] <seven11> someone any idea about kpf how do i connect
[05:21] <Hobbsee> malik_: not sure.  should be auto-recognised, actually
[05:21] <malik_> Hmmm oki ........been googling it for hrs but no luck
[05:37] <Thehound666> I tried a remount and now everything says partition not writable
[05:38] <Thehound666> will reboot fix?
[05:42] <Thehound666> ok fsck now says errors
[05:42] <leexgx> i get this when i try and update ?? W: GPG error:  edgy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[05:44] <Thehound666> recovery mode should fix. It fixed my friend's system which was unbootable even
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> does anyone know where mysql keeps its databases
[05:47] <chris_> how do i do a streach icon in kde?
[05:47] <bonbonthejon> chris_: what do you mean
[05:47] <chris_> in gnome i right click strech icon and i can make it bigger
[05:47] <chris_> how can i do that in kde?
[05:48] <bonbonthejon> chris_: do you mean just have bigger icons?
[05:50] <chris_> i want it only one 1 icon (my home)
[05:50] <chris_> i like i big home icon :D
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> chris_: ok, in system settings > appearances > advanced, you can specify the icon size
[05:51] <crazy_bus> Ktorrent worked yesterday.  But today trying to load it just causes 100% of my memory to be used and the mouse only moves in jerks.  And ktorrent doesn't load.  Can anyone help?
[05:52] <chris_> system settings?
[05:52] <chris_> kcontrol?
[05:52] <bonbonthejon> chris_: that works
[05:52] <chris_> where in kcontrol
[05:53] <bonbonthejon> crazy_bus: try running ktorrent from konsole and see if it gives any errors
[05:53] <crazy_bus> kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found
[05:54] <bonbonthejon> chris_: appearance & themes --> icons --> advanced
[05:54] <bonbonthejon> crazy_bus: I dont know what that means, but now you can try to find a solution
[05:54] <bonbonthejon> crazy_bus: did you do an update or something
[05:56] <chris_> i only want 1 desktop icon bigger
[05:57] <tommy> hello
[05:57] <tommy> i just switched from windows to kubuntu, and i cant figure out how to change my screen resolution
[05:57] <leexgx> hmm thats an bug that can get boring fast haveing to move my mouse away to click on an button
[05:57] <crazy_bus> I update manager updated 2 files this monrning
[05:57] <tommy> it doesnt do anything when  i try it in system settings, it just asks me if i want to keep the settings but nothing changges
[05:58] <chris_> can you guys help me with wine and quicken?
[05:59] <bonbonthejon> crazy_bus: what files updated
[05:59] <crazy_bus> I can't remeber the download size of 99kbs
[05:59] <chris_> my dad loves it
[05:59] <tommy> how can you change the screen resolution ?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[05:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:00] <matthew> YES! I finally got rtorrent working!
[06:00] <Thehound666> 75% fixed
[06:00] <Dr_willis> tommy,  if yoru video card drivers are isntalled right you should be able to use that kde control settings under "perhierfials/Monitor"
[06:00] <Thehound666> almost scared me though not afraid of killing Kubuntu
[06:01] <Thehound666> have a utility on Windows to browse ext3
[06:01] <Thehound666> to recover data
[06:01] <Thehound666> if Linux becomes not bootable
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Bah! thats what live cds are for!
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <chris_> ohhhh yeah and one more thing :D, i ran apt-get install kde (there was a newer version :D) and i was wondering how do i stop both battery programs from loading?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> chris_,  remove 1 from the panel?
[06:02] <chris_> from auto start?
[06:02] <Thehound666> yeah but booting Windows and pulling onto another partition is faster
[06:02] <Dr_willis> chris_,  what battery program are you refering to anyway
[06:02] <Thehound666> trust me, I don't dedicate more space than I must on any of my machines for windows
[06:04] <chris_> the one that comes with ubuntu?
[06:04] <chris_> kubuntu*
[06:04] <Pensa`MIA> how to reset kicker preferences?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> chris_, assume i am NOT on a laptop or machine that has a battery... :)
[06:05] <Dr_willis> chris_,  you are refering to some sort of battery montioring program in the panel?
[06:05] <chris_> yeah
[06:05] <chris_> i killed it so i dont know the name :/
[06:06] <Dr_willis> if ya close out the programs and log out of KDE - it 'should' rember what you have running and just restart the ones you had
[06:07] <Pensa`MIA> what folder do I need to delete to reset kicker?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> all kde settings are in .kde  - not sure what specific dirs are for kicker however. :()
[06:08] <Pensa`MIA> ok thx
[06:08] <Dr_willis> .kde/share/config/kickerrc is one file I think.. there may be some others in the other dirs
[06:11] <Pensa`MIA> thx, that fixed it
[06:11] <Thehound666> what does Kicker do?
[06:11] <Thehound666> the KDE crash handler just came up for kicker
[06:12] <Dr_willis> its the taskbar/panel at the bottom of the screen
[06:12] <Thehound666> ahh it disappeared and reappeared
[06:12] <Thehound666> wonder why it would crash
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Dust Bunnies.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <Thehound666> ok in more relevant terms, should I be concerned or go about what I'm doing?
[06:14] <Thehound666> lol
[06:14] <Dr_willis> proberly some app did somthing bad..
[06:14] <Dr_willis> ive rarely had kicker die so badly that it screwed anything up.
[06:14] <Thehound666> and last question
[06:15] <Dr_willis> linux/kde is a bit more bullet proof then windows in that area
[06:15] <Thehound666> a good linux virus scanner?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Better Question - why do you THINK you need a virus scanner...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> What viruses ya planning on scanning for?
[06:15] <Thehound666> just to be sure
[06:15] <Thehound666> some things have been acting weird
[06:15] <Thehound666> and needed fixing
[06:15] <Dr_willis> The virus scanners out 'for linux' scan for windows viruses in files...
[06:16] <Dr_willis> to work as a 'main server/detector/tools' theres very few if any real linux viruses out to be worried about
[06:16] <Thehound666> and what use is that
[06:16] <Thehound666> lol
[06:16] <Dr_willis> you put the linux box in as a mail server.. it scans the files for viruses.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> simple eh..
[06:16] <Dr_willis> or ftp server. or whatever.. or ya use it to scan the various samba/windows  shares and so forth
[06:17] <Thehound666> once on a file I downloaded in Windows, I always scan and it found a Linux virus
[06:17] <Thehound666> in a Windows .exe
[06:17] <Dr_willis> I would bet that was a false positive in the virus checker program
[06:17] <Dr_willis> I had a windows program detect a virus in a 'compressed amiga disk file'
[06:18] <Dr_willis> considering the disk image was like from a 20+ yr old floppy... it was wrong.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <Thehound666> well I mean the virus said Linux instead of W32
[06:18] <Minataku> Uh
[06:18] <Thehound666> was a Windows exe
[06:18] <Thehound666> weird
[06:18] <Minataku> There were viruses 20 years ago
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  but it was an AMIGA disk...
[06:18] <Minataku> There were a lot of Amiga viruses
[06:18] <Dr_willis> it wasent even in fat/whatever format, and it was compressed with lzh
[06:18] <Minataku> Particularly nasty ones, too
[06:19] <Dr_willis> it dident detect an AMIGA virus.. it detected a windows virus
[06:19] <Minataku> Oh
[06:19] <Minataku> Sorry XD
[06:19] <Thehound666> lol
[06:19] <Dr_willis> and it was a 'compressed' amiga disk image as well. :)
[06:19] <Minataku> Yeah, that would most likely be a false then XD
[06:19] <Minataku> Most scanners uncompress
[06:19] <Thehound666> Was it Windows 1.0 back then?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> this was befor windows 1.0
[06:19] <Dr_willis> This was Dos Days
[06:20] <Thehound666> lol a virus writer ahead of his time
[06:20] <Dr_willis> and yes - i do have a lot of Very old files. :)
[06:20] <Thehound666> actually the uploader said the Linux virus was legit but it would hurt Windows
[06:21] <Thehound666> some editions of the disc came out with one
[06:21] <Thehound666> wouldn't*
[06:21] <Thehound666> old game
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Oh for the days of simple Floppy boot sector Viruses
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> now we got companies installing CrudWare on machines as  they leave the factory
[06:23] <Thehound666> all my prebuilt machines had that
[06:23] <Thehound666> I immediately formatted
[06:23] <Dr_willis> yep - when you are getting 2+GB of crudware... and 3 DVD's to restore the systems to it crudware infested state...
[06:23] <Dr_willis> its getting a bit silly
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Thank you Mr. Dell.. but i do NOT need demos of stuff..
[06:24] <Thehound666> Use: Kubuntu single CD or my special Windows CD I made a long time ago
[06:24] <Thehound666> 200 MB
[06:24] <Thehound666> bloat removed
[06:25] <Thehound666> it'll be awhile before you can do that to Vista
[06:25] <Dr_willis> if ever
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Amazing thing about Vista - i cant find Anyone thats actually looking forward to it...
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <Thehound666> I see no future in Windows past xp
[06:26] <Thehound666> why I got more into this
[06:26] <Thehound666> <--Vista beta tester who has final code since November
[06:26] <Dr_willis> i got win95 running in a vmware session for just a few apps.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> getting a bit annoyign when ya got to have .net  stuff installed just for video card drivers and so forth...
[06:27] <Thehound666> how is Linux VMWare?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> .NET - got to be the worse name for a product
[06:27] <Thehound666> tried asking in off-topic
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Vmware Server for linux is now Free.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> just got to send them an email address.. and they dont even check it.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> fill in questionare... and get serial #
[06:28] <Dr_willis> they got higher end products they charge for.
[06:28] <Thehound666> I use Workstation 6.0 beta in Wintrash but think I might want to play the classics under Linux
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Play what classics? DosBox rules for most dos games.
[06:28] <Thehound666> how does it work compared to Windows?
[06:29] <Thehound666> well a few are incompatible 95 games
[06:29] <Thehound666> .exe form
[06:29] <Dr_willis> never tried vmware under windows.. so cant tell ya much.
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Given i got a few dozen x 10+gb of dos games.. :) i got plenty to play
[06:29] <Thehound666> great under Windows for Linux, if you want to distro hunt
[06:29] <Thehound666> most run perfect
[06:30] <Thehound666> ok for win85
[06:30] <Thehound666> a bit of tweaking
[06:30] <Thehound666> 95*
[06:30] <Thehound666> example:to get good sound
[06:31] <Thehound666> Win 95 has a known issue in VMWare but it's fixable
[06:31] <Thehound666> far as audio
[06:31] <mortici> hmmm
[06:32] <Dr_willis> night all
[06:32] <Thehound666> my Linux drive is small but I ftp it to my network storage
[06:33] <Thehound666> as I download stuff
[06:34] <Thehound666> have a Windows pc with 2x1 TB on board
[06:34] <Thehound666> my gaming monster
[06:34] <Thehound666> like to make and use .iso
[06:34] <Thehound666> no disc access time
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> wouldn't that be 2TB?
[06:36] <Thehound666> yes
[06:36] <Thehound666> 1 drive=disc images
[06:36] <Thehound666> other=my installs
[06:36] <Thehound666> +temp storage
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> 1TB hard drives aren't even shipping yet.
[06:37] <leexgx> i run vmware under windows
[06:37] <Thehound666> yes they are
[06:37] <leexgx> or ubuntu on vmware on windows
[06:37] <Thehound666> for about 300 pounds
[06:37] <Thehound666> Western Digital
[06:38] <Thehound666> how big can ext3 handle for partition size?
[06:38] <Thehound666> if I wanted to get one for a Linux machine
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> the first 1tb drive was announced a week ago, by hitachi, and won't ship for some time yet.
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but whatever's cool with you :P
[06:39] <monzie> hi all
[06:39] <Thehound666> you're wrong. Western digital is in stores
[06:39] <monzie> i want to do network printing in kubuntu Edgy
[06:40] <monzie> the printer is configured just fine
[06:40] <monzie> but konqueror shows "printing page 1"
[06:40] <monzie> and then crashes
[06:40] <monzie>  i cant even print to a pdf file
[06:40] <Thehound666> browse in a minute. my cpu usage will be down
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=267
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the *only* 1tb offering on WD's site
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's an external, and it's 2x500gb
[06:42] <monzie> can someone please help me with a printing problem?
[06:45] <mortici> anyone know why quicktime files don't play properly in firefox?
[06:45] <mortici> i have sound but no video
[06:46] <phobiac> Where does Wine keep it's C drive?
[06:46] <Jucato> ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:47] <phobiac> Aha, thank you
[06:48] <mortici> anyone
[06:53] <neddiW> hi, does anyone know how to automount usb drives and ipods
[06:54] <neddiW> i dunno why but i get error whenever i try to open and usb drive
[06:56] <ubuntu> Hi there, is there a channel for kubuntu feisty?
[06:56] <Jucato> !feisty | ubuntu
[06:56] <ubotu> ubuntu: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:57] <fellipe> hello?
[06:57] <ubuntu> ubuntu+1 !! thanks jucato :-)
[07:04] <dglnz> anyone able to help kde desktop appears on half the screen now
[07:10] <dave> help on KDE desktop display now only half the screen, installed vmware before this happened /usr space full
[07:14] <dave> mode
[07:14] <dave> anyone here?
[07:15] <dwidmann> I'm around, now anyway
[07:15] <dwidmann> running out of space doesn't sound like a pleasant thing to have happen.
[07:16] <jbinder> hi
[07:16] <dwidmann> hello
[07:16] <dave> dwidmann i can only see you here is there only 2 here?
[07:16] <jbinder> does kubuntu come with openoffice?
[07:16] <jbinder> or koffice
[07:16] <sampan> jbinder  OOo
[07:17] <dwidmann> dave, I'm more than willing to bet there are plenty of idle people
[07:17] <jbinder> sampan: k
[07:17] <jbinder> and
[07:17] <jbinder> does it come with firefox?
[07:17] <jbinder> or konqueror
[07:17] <dwidmann> No
[07:17] <dwidmann> Konqueror
[07:17] <jbinder> nooo
[07:17] <jbinder> lol
[07:17] <jbinder> does it come with kmplayer?
[07:18] <dwidmann> I can't recall, I don't think so, could have sworn it was in the default set when edgy was in development, maybe I was just dreaming though. Anyhow, I'm pretty sure it isn't.
[07:18] <fowlduck> about 300 idle people actually
[07:18] <fowlduck> or busy people
[07:18] <sampan> i just installed edgy and unless firefox came in surreptitiously with a language pack install it's already on here
[07:18] <dave> help kde only on half the screen, loaded a guest OS into /usr and filled it up got kde backup but only hlf screen any help?
[07:19] <dwidmann> jbinder, for multimedia, it *does* come with kaffeine, k3b, and amarok, and I can't recall what else because I think I uninstalled all of the other ones.
[07:20] <dwidmann> dave, I don't get it ... only half the screen is showing anything ...  What is the host OS here?
[07:22] <dave> then loaded a guest OS, left things as they appeared
[07:23] <dave> Oooops w2k as guest with 15 Gig space (20gigs total for /usr which is part of root partition
[07:24] <dave> closed down for night 2 days later rebooted and got errors (things froze, no clr login prompt).
[07:25] <dwidmann> It apparantly doesn't like running out of storage space ...
[07:25] <dave> i then went into rescue mode deleted the vmx files form /usr/lib/vmware/...../windows professional/all files found in the directory
[07:26] <dwidmann> 20gig was a very tiny amount of space to give your root partition if you were planning on using it to store virtual machines ... they add up fast.
[07:26] <dwidmann> I'm currently moving 80gig worth of vmware related files to another partition myself ...
[07:26] <dave> found i'd recovered all the 15gigs of space but desktop os now only half the screen
[07:27] <dwidmann> dave: my assumption is that somehow some configuration file somewhere probably got messed up.
[07:27] <dave> well i wasn't actually going to be loading a virtual OS in there, didn't really read the path details (should've tho)
[07:28] <dwidmann> First thing you could try would be creating a new user account, and log in with it ... if it hasn't the problem then that makes the problem really easy to fix.
[07:28] <dave> Yes that is why after deleting the vmx files i did a dpkg-reconfigure of xorg
[07:31] <dwidmann> dave, which is why I'm suggesting it might be a problem with user settings ... simply create a new user account (doable with the adduser command, or via systemsettings (or a number of other things))
[07:31] <dwidmann> try logging in with that new user account and see if the problem exists there also .... oh, and do you have the same problem in a VT (ctrl + alt + f1 will take you to a vt, ctrl + alt + f7 will bring you back to X)
[07:32] <dwidmann> What about kdm, do you only see a half screen when you're at the kdm screen?
[07:32] <ramanuj> when i am opening any movie in mplayer it is giving a mesg
[07:32] <ramanuj> Xlib:  extension "GLX"
[07:32] <ramanuj> 	missing on display ":0.0".
[07:32] <ramanuj> what is wrong
[07:33] <ramanuj> or what i should do
[07:34] <dwidmann> ramanuj, sounds like the glx module isn't loaded. There should be a line like 'Load "glx"' in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, is it there?
 under kde i only have 1 screen so with ctrl+alt+F1 does nothing for F2 for that matter.
[07:37] <ramanuj> actually i have nvidia display but it has not detected by ubuntu or kbuntu
[07:37] <_deb_> Hi *
[07:37] <ramanuj> may this is causing the probs
[07:37] <dwidmann> ramanuj, an n vidia card eh? what driver are you using?
[07:37] <dwidmann> dave, so you can't switch? Have you tried?
[07:37] <ramanuj> vesa
[07:37] <ramanuj> i tried
[07:37] <_deb_> is there a seperate channel for kubuntu feisty ?
[07:38] <dwidmann> probably #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <ramanuj> installed nvidia but it is not taking
[07:38] <Jucato> !feisty | _deb_
[07:38] <ubotu> _deb_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <dave> dwidmann switch? as in going to kde->switch 2 option from bottom??
[07:38] <dwidmann> what method did you use to install the nvidia drivers ramanuj?
[07:38] <dwidmann> dave, as in, pressing ctrl + alt + f1 and seeing what it does.
[07:39] <_deb_> thanks.
[07:39] <ramanuj> first i used .run file from nvidia home page
[07:39] <ramanuj> after installing it said that unable to open display
[07:39] <dave> Ctrl+alt+f1 or F2 does nothing (well that was what happened in past)
[07:40] <ramanuj> then i tried with the method given on ubuntu web site
[07:40] <ramanuj> by that also display is not coming
[07:40] <ramanuj> previosly i was using Mandriva 2007 that was taking it fine
[07:41] <dwidmann> ramanuj: the easiest way is to first uninstall the one from the nvidia website with the same file you used to (try to) install it, then run sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:42] <ramanuj> ok , i m tryin
[07:42] <djdarkman_> hy ,can someone suggest an alternative to windows program WhereIsIt ,it`s a cd cataloging program ,that scans the cd for files and makes catalogs...?
[07:44] <ramanuj> it is compleated
[07:44] <dwidmann> ramanuj, try restarting X, you'll know if it worked or not then
[07:44] <K`zan> Anyone have problems using any browser to deal with Bank Of America?
[07:45] <dwidmann> djdarkman_: A cataloguing program, what information does it keep track of exactly?
[07:45] <K`zan> BOA doesn't seem to like any browser running under ubuntu - same ones work under gentoo - weird?!??!
 just googled for the program and then added linux to it and it popped up a linux version, any help
[07:46] <dwidmann> K`zan: try playing with the user agent that the browsers are sending then
[07:47] <djdarkman_> linux version of WhereIsIt....strange ,ok I`ll do that too ,thanks dave
 also check out the repositories you have as their might be something there that will fit your needs too
[07:48] <K`zan> dwidmann: Tried all of them - same...
[07:49] <dwidmann> K`zan, I say that, because the only way BOA could tell you'
[07:49] <dwidmann> re using ubuntu would be if it were in the user agent
[07:49] <dwidmann> Maybe gentoo does something with the default user agents for those browsers or some such/
[07:50] <K`zan> dwidmann: Heh, I wish, they are not helpful unless you are running IE, but oddly, both browsers work fine with them under gentoo...
 thanks for your help i'll log off now and give your suggestions a try.
[07:50] <djdarkman_> hmmm I`ll try ,btw there is only a plugin to open rpm files for whereisit ,or something like that ,there is no linux version
[07:51] <dwidmann> djdarkman, what about the cds does it catalog exactly?
[07:52] <djdarkman_> dwidmann: the files that are on the cds
[07:53] <djdarkman_> if you write many cds it is essential to have a catalog like that
[07:55] <djdarkman_> for example if you write at least 200GB of music on cd or dvd ,and you want to know wich cd contains the one that you need ,you cant try all discs
[07:55] <dwidmann> djdarkman, sounds kind of handy
[07:56] <dwidmann> Fortunately, I have 900GB of hdd space, so I just keep it all on the hard disk :D
[07:57] <djdarkman_> yeah but here in my country you cant even dream of having a hdd that big ,so you have to right everything on cd/dvds :)
[07:57] <dwidmann> It's three hard drives, actually
[07:57] <dwidmann> The largest hard drive out there that I know about is the Seagate 750GB
[07:58] <djdarkman_> I have 2 80 GB hdds ,and i always face the problem of running out of free space
[08:00] <dwidmann> I could see that happening ... the two 250gb hdds I have don't cost nearly as much as they used to ... I think they're down to $75 on newegg
[08:01] <chavo> I had 2 250's but one is getting smart errors so I took it out
[08:01] <dwidmann> I've not had any problems with mine :) I'm one of those lucky few who has never had a problem with a hard drive, ever.
[08:02] <dwidmann> Not even that maxtor I had, stroke of luck there, I think.
[08:02] <djdarkman_> problem nr. 2 that I`m a university student that makes my wallet very thin ;)
[08:02] <dwidmann> djdarkman_: It's a proven fact that all students are poor.
[08:02] <djdarkman_> altough i would gladly buy a 500GB hdd ,that would give me a little extra space
[08:03] <dwidmann> djdarkman_: It'd be a lot cheaper to buy two 250's
[08:03] <chavo> I've had a couple of harddrives die on me but luckily I caught them before they completely died
[08:03] <chavo> and got all of the data off
[08:04] <djdarkman_> I have a PC and a notebook ,so I mirror important data
[08:07] <dwidmann> transferring giant vmware files takes forever :(
[08:13] <Ayabara> Hi guys. Is there a repo where I can get a precompiled version of Krusader 1.80b1 for kubuntu?
[08:18] <Jucato> !printing
[08:18] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:27] <danny> hello :) does anyone know why the df command does not update what it shows - i just deleted 3 GB of info yet it is still showing the same amount of hdd space b4 i deleted
[08:28] <dwidmann> danny, did you really delete, or just move to trash?
[08:28] <danny> i moved to trash then emptied it
[08:28] <danny> dwidmann: i moved to trash then emptied it
[08:29] <dwidmann> danny: if it's still present, perhaps you can figure out where it is ... filelight is a neat little program for checking such things
[08:30] <danny> dwidmann: ok i heard about filelight a while ago - where do i get it?
[08:30] <dwidmann> "sudo aptitude install filelight" will work danny
[08:31] <danny> dwidmann: ok thanks will dl it now
[08:31] <dwidmann> side note, it's in the universe repository
[08:32] <danny> dwidmann: aight - i have all repositories enabled including those from automatix2
[08:32] <danny> oh
[08:32] <danny> dwidmann: which reminds me - im running automatix2 right now
[08:33] <dwidmann> I've personally never used it ... never had a need to
[08:33] <danny> dwidmann: i guess ill have to wait til its done dling before i can install filelight
[08:33] <Ayabara> is there by chance any krusader developers here?
[08:33] <dwidmann> danny: you figure that will be a while then?
[08:34] <danny> dwidmann: we have connection issues and downloading right now is a pain because of the taiwan earthquake
[08:34] <dwidmann> Ayabara: I wouldn't count on it
[08:34] <dwidmann> danny: there was a quake? I didn't know
[08:35] <Ayabara> dwidmann, I'm currently alone in #krusader, so I had to give it a try :)
[08:35] <danny> dwidmann: yep a week ago - destroyed many tubes down the ocean affecting most of southeast asia region
[08:37] <graniti> Hi. is there a way to have a black full-screen for N seconds? thnks...
[08:38] <dwidmann> graniti, sure there are ways, just a matter of if they're what you have in mind
[08:39] <graniti> dwidmann: tell me one of them:)
[08:39] <walla> could anyone tell where i can find plugins for beryl?
[08:39] <graniti> dwidmann: i wouldn pass through an image... I would like something faster
[08:39] <dwidmann> the easiest one is to turn the screen off ...
[08:39] <chavo> walla, most of them come with it
[08:40] <graniti> dwidmann: I have to do it through a script
[08:40] <dwidmann> ah, always a catch ;)
[08:40] <walla> i'm basically just looking for the beam up effect
[08:40] <chavo> beam up?
[08:41] <jpiccolo> how can i completly remove vmware
[08:41] <dwidmann> graniti, if it's in a terminal, you could do something like "clear && sleep 5s"
[08:41] <chavo> jpiccolo, how did you install it?
[08:41] <walla> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Ig0NFjxkU
[08:41] <dwidmann> jpiccolo, how about with the uninstall script that came with it (in the case of vmware server)
[08:41] <jpiccolo> i dont remember
[08:41] <graniti> dwidmann: i have to launch the script from the desktop
[08:42] <chavo> walla, you have to get the svn version for that
[08:42] <dwidmann> why does it need to blank the screen graniti?
[08:42] <jpiccolo> dwidmann: were is the uninstall script
[08:42] <walla> ok, thanks
[08:43] <dwidmann> one sec jpiccolo, things are being slow for me right now while I transfer 100 gig or so of files
[08:43] <graniti> dwidmann: it's long to explain.... It must reside into a program. this program launches the script, which keep the screen black for 10 seconds and then it returns to the desktop
[08:43] <chavo> walla, there's some packages for edgy available here http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70
[08:43] <dwidmann> ah, here it is jpiccolo, /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[08:44] <chavo> but the settings manager is a little messed up in that version. I just updated and built it from svn and it's all good now
[08:44] <jpiccolo> dwidmann: ok nothing there
[08:44] <jpiccolo> and i have removed everything thing that i saw in adept
[08:44] <dwidmann> jpiccolo, try this: sudo updatedb  && locate vmware | grep uninstall.pl
[08:45] <jpiccolo> i think i tried to install the vmware-player before
[08:46] <dwidmann> vmware is *easy* to remove, just aptitude remove vmware-player
[08:46] <dwidmann> **vmware-player is ...
[08:46] <fowlduck> speaking of virtualization, did you guys see this new OSS program? http://www.virtualbox.org/
[08:46] <dwidmann> graniti, I'll see if I can think of anything then
[08:46] <dwidmann> I've heard about it
[08:47] <fowlduck> just saw it on digg today
[08:47] <graniti> dwidmann: thnks
[08:47] <fowlduck> wondered if anyone had tried it
[08:47] <jpiccolo>  <- thats where i have it downloaded to install
[08:47] <dwidmann> heard it doesn't run on x86_64, so I have temporarily lost any interest in reading about it
[08:49] <graniti> il' be back later
[08:49] <dwidmann> wow .... cp and mv can be a real processor hog if you run that at normal priority o.o
[08:49] <jpiccolo> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. arg
[09:01] <jpiccolo> is nvidia messed up for anyone else?
[09:01] <jpiccolo> nvidia.com
[09:01] <chavo> jpiccolo, works for me
[09:02] <Slackwise> I see no issues either.
[09:02] <jpiccolo> really wtf
[09:02] <jpiccolo> i am seeing the html code not the page
[09:02] <Slackwise> Ctrl+F5?
[09:02] <Slackwise> To refresh your cached copy of it.
[09:02] <notech> heard that from someone else earlier too
[09:02] <jpiccolo> body { background-image: url(/docs/TEMPLATE/487/SubBackground.gif) that kind of crap
[09:03] <Slackwise> Yes, that would be CSS.
[09:03] <jpiccolo> could you guys give me the link for linux drivers so i can wget them
[09:03] <Slackwise> They're available straight from the Ubuntu repositories
[09:03] <Slackwise> No real need to download them manually
[09:03] <chavo> which version?
[09:04] <jpiccolo> latest
[09:04] <chavo> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[09:04] <jpiccolo> sweet, doing a kernel upgrade
[09:04] <chavo> that's 32 bit
[09:04] <jpiccolo> and have to reinstall the drivers
[09:04] <jpiccolo> good
[09:12] <danny> test
[09:15] <danny> um why are people being kicked?
[09:19] <dwidmann> :D it looks like that operation went flawlessly
[09:20] <dwidmann> now to wipe that disk and set up the lvm ...
[09:24] <elyon> Could someone please help me track down an error that is causing my system to lock up?  Happens almost every time a user logs off (black screen, only a frozen mouse cursor visible... Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc does not work).
[09:24] <elyon> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy with KDE and Gnome.
[09:24] <dwidmann> elyon: what video drivers are you using?
[09:25] <elyon> dwidmann: I have a Radeon 9600 with the fglrx driver.
[09:25] <dwidmann> Well, we certainly did track down that problem fast, now didn't we :O
[09:26] <elyon> hey now lol
[09:26] <elyon> I know ATI's aren't good for Linux, but I know many people have gotten it to work just fine
[09:26] <dwidmann> the fglrx driver is full of problems, you just listed two of them
[09:27] <elyon> dwidmann: I was under the impression (from the official Ubuntu documentation and wiki), that fglrx is more stable than the ati drivers.
[09:27] <dwidmann> I never did get around to looking into the fix for it ... I gave my computer with an ati card to my brother and lost interest when I built this one
[09:27] <Dell-Net> hi
[09:28] <dwidmann> elyon: I found the ati drivers pretty stable, but lacking in performance. The fgrlx drivers I found were the other way around