[00:08] <dman777> having issues with installing ubuntu 18.04.5 lts live server on my laptop. I have a windows partition, so I am preserving that and doing a custom install. But while the installer was installing...all of the sudden the installer reset and went back to the first step screen
[00:50] <dman777> would it break things if I install the desktop version and remove gnome and all the other things?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> !minimal | dman777 Much easier to build up than to tear down:
[01:00] <dman777> Bashing-om: I'm clicking on the Ubuntu 18.04 "Bionic Beaver" link but it doesn't go anywhere
[01:01] <Bashing-om> dman777: clicking from where ?- and I see what I get .
[01:01] <dman777> Bashing-om: on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD, I click on 'Ubuntu 18.04 "Bionic Beaver" 64MB (MD5: 8388f7232b400bdc80279668847f90da, SHA1: cce936c1f9d1448c7d8f74b76b66f42eb4f93d4a)' but it doesn't take me to the download page
[01:02] <Bashing-om> dman777: checking -
[01:02] <dman777> thanks
[01:03] <dman777> I can right click and save as but it's not https
[01:05] <Bashing-om> dman777: Look at you browser - the link auto downloads the image file. - if brower is set to download to Downloads (note the upper case "D")- see what is now in that directory: ls -al Downloads.
[01:06] <dman777> Bashing-om: the link shows archive.ubuntu.com.... is it safe to right click and save as even though it's not https?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> dman777: The hash is provided - verify the hash and then yes completely safe :D
[01:08] <dman777> Bashing-om: hmm..... can anyone login and edit this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD? If so, they can place a exploited iso with it's hash
[01:10] <Bashing-om> dman777: That is not how a hash verification works . the computed hash is done on the file that resides on your system and then you check that it is the same as posted.
[01:12] <Maik> dman777: didn't you chat about the same issue last night?
[01:13] <dman777> Maik: yes.... I did everything recommended last night. I got further but then the installer still failed and reseted to the begining
[01:17] <dman777> Bashing-om: what if someone uploads a exploited mini.iso to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ and edits that page with thier own checksum?
[01:24] <Bashing-om> dman777: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/4161/shouldnt-gpg-key-fetching-use-a-secure-connection .
[01:33] <Maik> dman777: what happened at Mint years ago doesn't mean it will happen at Ubuntu
[01:33] <Maik> also
[01:33] <Maik> !discuss
[01:45] <dman777> Ok, but that page is editable that contains the checksum :(
[01:48] <Maik> it isn't
[01:55] <dman777> that link 'login in to edit page' is a little confusing
[01:56] <jpds> dman777: That page is massively out of date; doesn't list newer releases
[01:56] <jpds> dman777: If you actually care about it, you should be checking the checksums and GPG-signatures at: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[01:57] <Maik> dman777: what page and please take it to #ubuntu-discuss
[01:57] <jpds> dman777: There are also numerous mirrors out there that do do HTTPS
[02:06] <guiverc> dman777, edits to that page require approval to be seen; i'm the last editor of the page (if i guessed the correct page you're talking about).. and if you have rights to edit (as I do), you quickly see emails going out on save for verification/approval..   People are careful & protect their reputation/privileges...  #ubuntu-discuss though if you want to discuss
[02:46] <dman777> jpds: I have to use the out of date page because the current installer for live server image breaks
[03:00] <Rubato> hi
[03:00] <Rubato> I have a problem with my system.. it crashes all the time / freezes
[03:00] <Rubato> even if I just boot it and leave it ilde
[03:00] <Rubato> idle
[03:00] <Rubato> how can I find out what is causing this
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Rubato: Read system logs - might get some hints - follow the journal too ' journalctl -f ' in a TTY.
[03:04] <Rubato> ok opened journal
[03:09] <Rubato> https://justpaste.it/1l089
[03:09] <Rubato> this is kernel log
[03:14] <Rubato> https://justpaste.it/3orny
[03:14] <Rubato> syslog
[03:17] <Rubato> https://justpaste.it/5gelj
[03:17] <Rubato> xorg
[03:22] <MIF> so I started a command over ssh, how can I keep it running even if I lose connection to my server over ssh?
[03:23] <guiverc> MIF, i tend to use screen; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[03:24] <MIF> ok
[03:24] <MIF> is there a way to move a running prossess into screen?
[03:25] <MIF> because it takes forever to get set up
[03:25] <guiverc> not that i'm aware of. screen will re-attach to previous sessions, but not a session started outside of it
[03:25] <MIF> ok
[03:26] <MIF> and if my laptop lost connection it will keep it running?
[03:27] <guiverc> yep.  i use it often when I intentially intend dropping connection  (so I can connect to assess results next day etc)
[03:27] <matsaman> takes forever to get setup?
[03:27] <matsaman> MIF: sometimes you can use reptyr or dupx
[03:27] <matsaman> but it's not guaranteed to work
[03:27] <dman777> Bashing-om: thanks for help earlier. I am having success with the minimal iso. Without out that I don't think I could of gotten server installed.
[03:28] <MIF> guiverc: how do I put screen into the background?
[03:29] <matsaman> CTRL+a, d (detach)
[03:29] <matsaman> or just close whatever term you're using
[03:29] <MIF> ok
[03:29] <guiverc> i don't understand sorry.  it's a terminal program; you start and other than messages little changes
[03:30] <matsaman> MIF: screen -list; screen -d -r namehere to reattach
[03:30] <MIF> ok
[03:30] <MIF> guiverc: I am running docker run  collabora/code
[03:30] <MIF> and I need that to stay up
[03:30] <MIF> and running
[03:31] <guiverc> i have no experience of it with docker/collabora sorry
[03:31] <MIF> that is ok
[03:35] <dman777> my laptop has a efi system. the minimal iso seems to have issues installing the boot loader because of this. Any ideas on how to fix?
[03:39] <Maik> turn off secureboot/fastboot?
[03:39] <dman777> secure boot is off. I need to check fastboot
[03:42] <Maik> dman777: dualboot?
[03:44] <dman777> secure boot is off....seems there is no fast boot option in my laptop. just to mention, the installer could not install grub. it wanted to use the removable media as some kind of workaround to get grub installed on a uefi system
[03:45] <Maik> turn off uefi then
[03:45] <Maik> i don't know why people always run in these kind of issues
[03:46] <dman777> i think i need it for windows, though
[03:46] <Maik> it's been ongoing ever since UEFI came out... very tiresome imho
[03:47]  * Maik dislikes dual booting, secureboot and UEFI
[03:47] <Maik> next machine will be a Linux specific computer
[03:48] <dman777> rasberry pi? lol
[03:52] <MIF> ok, so how do I whitelist a IP on fail2ban
[03:52] <MIF> this is the 3rd time today my computer has been banned from my server
[03:58] <Blade-Runner> last time i got help with grub the instructions i got took win out, where win was first and ubuntu second, maybe i didnt explain it right, all i wanted to do is change the boot order and make win second. can anyone please help me fix this?
[04:06] <Maik> dman777: i already have 3 Pi 4's
[04:11] <kill-animals> I have a stupid bug with my thinkpad that is throttling down my cores to 400 mhz a piece. I am trying to see if there is a linux kernel module that can force them back up to their proper speed.
[04:11] <kill-animals> running kubuntu 20.04
[04:12] <kill-animals> Any solution is fine frankly.
[04:13] <dman777> when creating a lvm, do I format the volume group or just the logical volumes?
[04:21] <St0nkBread> i managed to rot13 the contents of a file and save the output to it, but how could I replace the original content so only the rot13 effected text would remain? Example: cat magic.txt | tr 'A-Za-z' 'N-ZA-Mn-za-m' | cat >> magic.txt
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> St0nkBread: perhaps ##linux is more the channel for your issues?
[04:22] <St0nkBread> thank you, I'll pop over there and ask.
[04:24] <dman777> I remember before the cloud ubuntu installers worked better. I think development has lessened for installers because of the cloud
[05:06] <ExcessiveAggro> Hi All.  I'm in a bit of a pickle but I feel like there has to be an easy out.  I have a default install of 20.04 and I accidentally deleted my first partition on the drive and now the system is non-bootable.  I'm on a live USB disk now and I can see all my data however I need to fix that first partition.  I assumed it was SWAP since it was only
[05:06] <ExcessiveAggro> 500M
[05:06] <ExcessiveAggro> Any ideas on how to determine what that old partition was... and how to get this up and running again?
[05:07] <Speiros> Swap makes sense, but no guarantees. Can you flag the drive as bootable?
[05:07] <Speiros> Using Gparted or something?
[05:07] <ExcessiveAggro> how do i go about doing that
[05:07] <ExcessiveAggro> ok let me try gparted
[05:07] <Speiros> Be careful with your data though.
[05:07] <ExcessiveAggro> I'm OK with the data being lost... just tryign to avoid a reinstall
[05:08] <Speiros> Also look for your home drive.
[05:08] <Speiros> Okay.
[05:08] <ExcessiveAggro> home drive is there
[05:08] <Speiros> Okay cool.
[05:08] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: 500M == EFI boot partition ?
[05:08] <ExcessiveAggro> looks like the entire file system is here... just appears to be missing this 500M partition... Bashing it could be yes
[05:09] <ExcessiveAggro> is there a way to recreate it if its a 500M EFI partition?
[05:10] <ExcessiveAggro> Bashing-om that may be it because the system talks about now boot partitions when it comes up.
[05:11] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: If it is the EFI partition - I would think that it can be re-recreated - as I am not EFI litterate others advise here will be the better,
[05:11] <ExcessiveAggro> let me do some google on this new info
[05:12] <Speiros> Yeah, not sure on that myself. I can choose EFI or not in the bios, but not sure about other things.
[05:13] <Bashing-om> Speiros: Start with what is now for partitiioning - have a look at ' sudo fdisk -lu ' from your liveUSB.
[05:13] <Speiros> Bashing-om I'm not having any problems mate. I'm just trying to help out the same person you are.
[05:14] <ExcessiveAggro> sorry i was talking to both of you at the same time.  Checking the fdisk now
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Speiros: Sorry - not paying attention - mind was elsewher  ExcessiveAggro ^^.
[05:15] <Speiros> All good Bashing-om :) Good job for being here to help.
[05:16] <ExcessiveAggro> following this guide - this may do it : https://linuxsuperuser.com/how-to-restore-or-create-efi-partition-in-ubuntu/
[05:17] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: Looking at the guide.
[05:18] <ExcessiveAggro> crap i need to reboot - with a liveCD it may take me about 5 to get back
[05:22] <ExcessiveAggro> made it back
[05:22] <Speiros> wb ExcessiveAggro. How's it looking?
[05:23] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: Guide looks sane to me - do follow al the way through and check the value in your /etc/fstab entry.
[05:23] <ExcessiveAggro> had to reenable EFI because i turned it off during troubleshooting
[05:23] <ExcessiveAggro> so about to check it out
[05:24] <Speiros> Yeah, that could be it.
[05:24] <Rubato> anyone checked my logs?
[05:31] <ExcessiveAggro> OK Speiros and Bashing-om - moment of truth, rebooting :)
[05:31] <Speiros> Ok
[05:34] <ExcessiveAggro> It worked! Man linux is fantastic
[05:35] <ExcessiveAggro> Thanks Speiros and Bashing-om
[05:35] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: \o/ - Time and a liveUSB fixes all :P
[05:36] <ExcessiveAggro> I had this problem because I have a box of USB thumb drives I'm reformating 1 by 1.... and I just happened to hit the wrong partition on thumb drive #54
[05:36] <Speiros> Good job, ExcessiveAggro, and Good work, Bashing-om :)
[05:36] <Speiros> LOL It happens, ExcessiveAggro. I did that once too and lost all my photos from when I was overseas.
[05:38] <ExcessiveAggro> any chance one of you can paste that link back at me?  I can't see history in the web browser and my searches are not giving me that same result this time lol
[05:39] <Speiros> Which link?
[05:39] <Speiros> https://linuxsuperuser.com/how-to-restore-or-create-efi-partition-in-ubuntu/
[05:39] <Speiros> ?
[05:39] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: https://linuxsuperuser.com/how-to-restore-or-create-efi-partition-in-ubuntu/ ?
[05:39] <DarkTrick> Which parts of my crash dump can I upload without revealing sensitive information? Or should I just upload the backtrace of gdb?
[05:39] <ExcessiveAggro> thats it - thanks!  going to put this in my bookmarks
[05:39]  * Bashing-om Too slow :(
[06:09] <DarkTrick> solved
[06:09] <sauvin> Kubuntu 20.04: no virtual consoles produced on CTRL-ALT-F[1-6]. Anybody know a fix?
[06:11] <Speiros> Good work, DarkTrick. How did you do it?
[06:12] <DarkTrick> Speiros, I posted the backtrace as shown in my console with as much dbg info I could figure out. With the note to do more work, if someone tells me how to gain missing information.
[06:13] <Speiros> Yeah, it's beyond my knowledge level mate. Glad you got it resolved though.
[06:25] <sauvin> Kubuntu 20.04 definitely did something wonky with VCs. I was wrong: a CTRL-ALT-F3 gets a VC, but there's no getting back to X.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !tty | sauvin
[06:27] <sauvin> Oh, they changed it? I used to get back to X with ALT-CTRL-F7.
[06:27] <sauvin> Confirmed. lotuspsychje, THANK YOU.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> ; )
[06:28] <sauvin> I don't use VCs very often, maybe once every other year, but usually when I do, it's a pants-pissing screaming-your-head-off EMERGENCY.
[06:37] <Ascavasaion> rt
[06:37] <Ascavasaion> Oops, incorrect room.
[06:39] <matsaman> Ascavasaion: spy! =P
[06:39] <Ascavasaion> matsaman: HA!  Not a good one then hehe
[09:32] <john_rambo> While watching Youtube using Google Chrome or Firefox the HDD led starts glowing constantly & the PC hangs ...only way out is REISUB ...How do I troubleshoot this ?
[09:36] <mouses> john_rambo: test the drive and make sure it's good?
[09:36] <mouses> john_rambo: reproduce the error in a live boot session?
[10:41] <vishwajit> hi
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> welcome vishwajit
[10:42] <vishwajit> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you today vishwajit
[10:43] <vishwajit> lotuspsychje: i am new and try to get undestand all this IRC
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> vishwajit: this channel is used for ubuntu support questions, for chat you can use #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss
[11:22] <shibboleth> anyone here ub/memeber staff and have a line of communication with jeremie deray/artivis? https://launchpad.net/~artivis
[11:23] <shibboleth> there's a regression in a package he's maintaining
[11:24] <laza> Ubuntu does not boot any more on Lenovo T490 (dual boot machine. Windows is fine). The problem seems to be "tpm_try_transmit: send(): error -5". Any suggestions how to fix this?
[11:24] <shibboleth> rather, a universe-package he recently updated, https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/c/ceres-solver/ceres-solver_1.11.0~dfsg0-2ubuntu0.1/changelog
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: did you file a bug about that?
[11:31] <shibboleth> no, i need to pick their brain about a few things first
[11:31] <laza> Ubuntu 20.10
[11:31] <shibboleth> was it a mistake, was it intentional, was it tested, stuff like that
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: if something doesnt work by default on ubuntu, that should be considered as a bug, aka the best way to inform the dev about
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> laza: at wich point does it get stuck exactly?
[11:35] <shibboleth> well, the old package was broken up front and had been since 2015, his fix looks fine up front but introduces some other issues. in any case, does anyone have a direct line of communication with him?
[11:35] <shibboleth> say... at work?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: there's #ubuntu-devel to get more in contact with ubuntu devs if you like
[11:37] <shibboleth> alright, thanks
[12:15] <Gusteru> hi, anyone can help me please ? I attach an harddisk to my ubuntu server, I tried to mount it from /dev/sda1 /hdd ... but now /dev/sda1 is renamed automaticaly in /dev/sdb1 and his cause a problem to read my hardisk data
[12:16] <Gusteru> ls: reading directory '.': Input/output error
[12:23] <Gusteru> hi, anyone can help me please ? I attach an harddisk to my ubuntu server, I tried to mount it from /dev/sda1 /hdd ... but now /dev/sda1 is renamed automaticaly in /dev/sdb1 and his cause a problem to read my hardisk data
[12:23] <Gusteru> ls: reading directory '.': Input/output error
[12:53] <Deano59> !patience | Gusteru
[13:15] <Gusteru> Deano59 thank you, I resolve it
[13:42] <Furai> Hey guys. I was just upgrading my 18.04 ubuntu to 20.04. For some odd reason the installation broke. The screen session was terminated and I can't resume it. I can see in the processes the last hanging dpkg process run by do-release-upgrader.
[13:42] <Furai> Can I somehow resume that process or am I screwed? Should I just kill that process and do dpkg --configure -a?
[13:51] <Furai> Ehh, I could probably grab the process with reptyr, though dpkg is hanging so I can't even install it.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:04] <Furai> Compiled reptyr, resumed the process and it said it's just waiting for child process to exit. Nice.
[14:49] <petrj> does anyone know which settings does clang use to locate gcc toolchain?
[14:49] <petrj> how does `clang -v` find: "Found candidate GCC installation ..." or what influences it?
[14:57] <RadSurfer> DOES ANYONE understand why 'gedit' insists on highlighting certain numeric values in RED? It is extremely annoying!
[15:04] <EriC^^> RadSurfer: is it set to text at the bottom?
[15:05] <RadSurfer> set to C (which is file loaded)
[15:05] <RadSurfer> 028 048 096 and others are ALL highlighted in RED! why?
[15:08] <soft_concrete> I'm trying to access a samba share I just created on my network via the Ubuntu file manager (nautilus) but the password prompt is confusing me.
[15:09] <soft_concrete> Even if I type in a valid username and password for the share, the password prompt comes up again, but all the options are greyed out, and I can't click or type anything in. What the hell?
[15:13] <BlueEagle> soft_concrete: Is the Ubuntu box the samba server or client?
[15:14] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: Ubuntu Server for the server, Ubuntu on my laptop for client as well
[15:15] <BlueEagle> soft_concrete: Very good. Are there any domain controllers in the mix? Do you have a samba user set up on the server and not just a "regular" user?
[15:16] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: That's correct, AFAIK. I have a user account set up, which samba should know about: I added an entry in the config file, and also did smbpassword on the user
[15:16] <soft_concrete> I've also restarted smbd after updating the config file
[15:17] <RadSurfer> for one thing a leading 0 infront of integers in C means OCTAL value! but why only flag certain values in RED?
[15:19] <BlueEagle> RadSurfer: 028, 048 and 096 are not valid octal numbers.
[15:19] <RadSurfer> fascinating! doh!
[15:20] <RadSurfer> good observation.
[15:20] <BlueEagle> RadSurfer: octal numbers can only have the digits 0-7 :)
[15:20] <RadSurfer> yes yes of course1
[15:20] <RadSurfer> in process of fixing this; going to take a while :)
[15:21] <RadSurfer> at least that's as good an explanation as I have heard!
[15:21] <BlueEagle> soft_concrete: when you did smbpasswd did you remember the -a flag?
[15:21] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: it seems like I can connect with smbclient, but when I try to do ls, I get: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*
[15:21] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: I did
[15:22] <BlueEagle> soft_concrete: Then it appears that your user does not have access to the resource you are attempting to access. Check the permissions of the files as well as the share.
[15:23] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: alright, I fixed that
[15:23] <soft_concrete> and now it works! :)
[15:24] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: when I'm logged into the samba share, does the host OS see me as the user I've defined in the smb.conf?
[15:29] <panda413> hiiiiii
[15:29] <panda413> trying to get setup on Ubuntu but hitting issues with video cards.
[15:33] <soft_concrete> lmfao
[15:43] <BlueEagle> soft_concrete: Did you find the cause?
[15:43] <soft_concrete> BlueEagle: Yeah, it was just permissions being wrong. Everything seems good now
[15:45] <panda413> hi
[15:45] <panda413> irc issues LOL
[15:53] <mocalvao> hi there
[15:55] <mocalvao> I have a very weird situation with my network connection. Two (Kubuntu Linux) of my three machines (the other one is a MacBook Pro), which are directly connected to the modem/router of my ISP, are unable to connect many pages of the web, though other ones seem to work fine
[15:56] <mocalvao> A sample of the sites I have problems with is: ufrj.br, claro,com.br, arxiv.org, kubuntu.org. I do not have problems in accessing youtube (any videos there), gmail, gmeet, for instance. The error is typically (in Chrome) DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN or ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
[15:57] <sharktamer> so what's the actual right way to configure wifi headless on a raspberry pi?
[15:57] <sharktamer> none of the suggestions I've found online actually work
[15:57] <mocalvao> I have now tried a different login user and different live usb pendrives and the same issues persist. Furthermore, I have created hotspots from my mobile phones, which use a different ISP and one of the desktops, which came with wifi as well, presents the same issues...
[16:00] <mocalvao> Right now, my MacBook Pro works fine, having no kind of this issue, but in the past few days, it did have... In fact, this morning, there was a popped-up message in it, reading: This computer's local hostanme "..." is already in use on this network. The name has been changed to ... Despite that, i have had no access problems to the web through it, connected to the very same modem/router
[16:01] <mocalvao> People from #kubuntu suggested I should come here because of a larger user base, and so did I.
[16:03] <RadSurfer> how about that! those RED thingies were actually bad octal values in a .c file! Why isn't there a manual for gedit that explains these things. :)
[16:13] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Having the same hostname on a network should typically not cause an issue with http traffic, but in general it is a bad idea. Is there any reason that you have several hosts with the same name on the network?
[16:14] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Oh I did not read that it had since changed. I would reset the router too just to make sure that it is done. Then I would power down all but one computer and see if it works as expected. Then two and then three until the issue arises.
[16:15] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: If the issue exists with only one computer, power that down and try with another single computer powered. If the issue still persists then the issue appears to be not with the computers but the link.
[16:17] <MIF> is it possable to limit how much cpu a prosses can use?
[16:18] <BlueEagle> MIF: `man renice`
[16:18] <BlueEagle> MIF: renice can set the priority of a process.
[16:18] <MIF> ok
[16:27] <DualBurritos> hi
[16:28] <DualBurritos> how yall doin
[16:29] <Maik> hi DualBurritos
[16:29] <Maik> !ask
[16:29] <Maik> !discuss
[16:31] <MIF> I am trying to get a reverse proxy set up accouring to https://thelounge.chat/docs/guides/reverse-proxies#apache but I get error Invalid command 'RequestHeader', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[16:33] <BlueEagle> MIF: It's provided by mod_headers.
[16:34] <BlueEagle> MIF: You want to make sure that mod_headers is in mods-available and then symlinked from mods-enabled (or somesuch. I'm an nginx-guy myself)
[16:41] <mocalvao> @BlueEagle: The host names of the three connected machines are all different ( betelgeuse and andromeda) for the Kubuntu desktop machines and I now have noticed a new message on the Mac reading again that "This computer's local hostname "Mauricios-MacBook-Pro-3.local" is already in use on this network. The name has been changed to "Mauricios-MacBook-Pro-4.local"
[16:42] <mocalvao> @BlueEagle: I will try to turn off or disconnect all other machines from the modem/router and see what happens...
[16:43] <Maik> mocalvao: BlueEagle wasn't talking to you :)
[16:43] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: When you put @ in front of a nickname in IRC it prevents most clients from highlighting the line, so please ommit it. In IRC @ denotes a channel operator.
[16:43] <Maik> ooops... my bad... quassel didn't load the back log completely. Sorry
[16:43] <BlueEagle> Maik: I was.
[16:44] <Maik> BlueEagle: yeah, i noticed now^^
[17:06] <noobguy1> hello. i am having issues typing uppercase characters and symbols when using rdp windows server from remmina. when i type @, it prints<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is there a fix for this?
[17:23] <rfm> noobguy1, two things I can think to try:  make sure the keyboard layout is set the same on the local and remote systems; try a different rdp client (I use the now-ancient "rdesktop" out of habit, still seems to be in the repos)
[17:24] <noobguy1> rfm, i am connecting to windows
[17:25] <rfm> noobguy1, yes, I understood that.  windows has a keyboard layout setting, and rdesktop works with windows (there are other rdp clients too, any "should" work..)
[17:41] <mocalvao> Hi Iam back, the guy with connection problems to the internet
[17:43] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: I have turned off all machines as well as the modem/router and then tried turning on, each one separately, and then all of them again. The connection problem persists: I am unable to access some network resources, while having no problems with others
[17:43] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Ok, so you are able to open some websites, but not others, is that correct?
[17:44] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: And this issue also occurs when you try only the mac online?
[17:49] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: Yes, I can access some sites (youtube, https://ubuntu.com), but not others (https://ufrj.gov.br, https://kubuntu.org)). This issue, right now, does not happen with the MacBook Pro, simultaneously connected to the same modem/router.
[17:50] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Ok. And which error message are you receiving again?
[17:50] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: that is, I am able to access all sites with the Mac...
[17:53] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Do you get an error message in your web browser?
[17:53] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: with Chrome, I get: This site can't be reached  https://ufrj.br is unreachable  ERR_ADDRESSS_UNREACHABLE, but also, before, DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
[17:53] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Ok, can you ping the address and get an IP address for the name?
[17:54] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: i.e. in a terminal run ping ufrj.br
[17:55] <mocalvao> PING ufrj.br (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data Then several From _gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>) icmp_seq=3 Destination Net Unreachable
[17:56] <mocalvao> After interrupting, with Ctrl-C, I get: 69 packets transmitted, 0 received, +56 errors, 100% packet loss, time 69600ms
[17:56] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Ok, so the name server appears to find the correct IP. If you try https://<IP_ADDRESS>/ (accepting the security exception) does it give a 404 page not found?
[17:56] <mocalvao> The very same site, from the Mac shows up perfectly
[17:57] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: I understand. We just need to figure out where the issue is.
[17:57] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Also which browser(s) are you using on your kubuntu boxes?
[17:57] <mocalvao> This happens both for Firefox and Chrome
[17:58] <mocalvao> When I tried the IP address above, the browser simply returned ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
[17:58] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: That is really odd.
[17:59] <mocalvao> BlueEagel: (it did not show up any security exception)
[17:59] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Did you set up any proxy server when you installed Kubuntu?
[18:00] <mocalvao> I guess not, because I would not even know how to do it. I can check if you tell me how to...
[18:01] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: There is a step where you are asked for a proxy server, the default is blank and that is correct for most users, so if you don't know that you did then you didn't. :)
[18:01] <mocalvao> I went to KDE System Settings > Network > Settings > Proxy and "No Proxy" was checked
[18:02] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Can you check the IP address and DNS server set up on one of the kubuntu boxes?
[18:02] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Also try setting the DNS server to <IP_ADDRESS> (google's name server) and see if that allows you to connect.
[18:03] <mocalvao> If that is worth, I have made a hotspot from my mobile phone, with a different ISP, connected to it from the most recent Kubuntu box and the same issue arises...
[18:06] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: Someone had already suggested this to me: under System Settings > Network > Connections, I have Wired Ethernet IPv4 and IPv6 tabs both with Method: Automatic and Other DNS Servers as <IP_ADDRESS> (IPv4) and ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:06] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Try disabling IP6.
[18:07] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: But other than that I am at a loss for what may be causing this.
[18:08] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: how do I disable IPv6? Choosing Method: Ignored from System Settings > Network > Connections > IPv6 tab?
[18:09] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: I am doing all this with the 3 machines connected to the modem/router; could this affect something?
[18:11] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: does this look like some problem with my hardware (network card) or the ISP's modem/router or like a software, configuration problem?
[18:12] <mocalvao> The MacBook Pro itself, despite working without any apparent glitches right now, did issue those messages about changes to the hostname,FWIW...
[18:14] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: I assume that your router/modem has three or for LAN-slots (or even wifi) and that it provides a network address to your computers in a private range (<IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/16 or <IP_ADDRESS>/16)
[18:16] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: it has four LAN (yellow) slots, all of which are used right now: 3 for the above mentioned computers and the last one for another personal mode-router
[18:16] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: And it gives out IPs in one of the ranges above?
[18:17] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: I do not know how to check that "it provides a network address to your computers in a private range". I can check it in the command line, if you tell me how to
[18:18] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: What are your local IP addresses on your computers? If they start with 10. or 192.168 or 172.19 then it's a private range. Anything other than that then your individual devices are all getting public addresses which may cause issues.
[18:19] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: I used sudo ifconfig and it gave me: for enp4s0 inet <IP_ADDRESS>. Is that it?
[18:20] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Yeah, that sounds good. While you're at it do you see a DHCP server, and can you enter that address in your browser to get access to the interface of the router/modem? Typically that wound be <IP_ADDRESS>.
[18:20] <mocalvao> for inet6, there were several other codes..
[18:20] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Oh, I thought I asked you to disable IP6.
[18:23] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: When I try that URL it leads me to a page for TP-Link, which is not the ISP brand of the router-modem... I think it is the page for my other personal modem-router..
[18:24] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: how do I disable IPv6? Through KDE System Settings?
[18:27] <mocalvao> The brand for the ISP modem-router is Arris (not TP-Link) but there are several infos in a sticker on it. One of them says the IP should be <IP_ADDRESS> but this gives me a TP-LINK page, not the Arris one. Isn't his plain wrong?
[18:28] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: to /etc/sysctl.conf add the line: net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
[18:28] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: You might need to restart networking or reboot for the changes to take effect.
[18:29] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: That depends on the firmware of the router what interface it has.
[18:29] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Some googling should be able to provide you with the defautl credentials needed to access the admin interface. Not sure if it'll matter thoguh.
[18:33] <mocalvao> Have just added the line disabling ipv6 on the sysctl.conf file (it was completely commented out)...
[18:34] <mocalvao> How do I start networking or should I rather reboot and come back again?
[18:34] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: A reboot would ensure that you're not using it.
[18:35] <mocalvao> Ok. I will reboot and report back. Thanks
[18:43] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: Back again. It did not work... I notice, if that matters, that under KDE System Settings . Network > Connections, the IPv6 tab still has Method: Automatic and the Google DNS for the field Other DNS Servers, whereas the IPv4 tab has changed its Method to Link-Local and now its field DNS Servers is blank...
[18:44] <BlueEagle> mocalvao: Then I am at a loss for what can be causing this.
[18:45] <mocalvao> BlueEagle: Also the command sudo ifconfig still shows up several inet6 lines, besides the single one for plain inet. Doesn't this mean inet6 is still somehow operational?
[18:48] <dust> how to change the swap size at install when using lvm?
[18:48] <dust> i dont want only 1gb but 16gb!
[18:49] <dob1> days ago I asked why gnuplot is not in ubuntu software center, I read the answers hours later but the answer was like: use apt/aptitude etc for it.  So what is software center? I was thinking it was a frontend to apt search/snap packages.... but it doesn't seems then
[19:00] <pmj642> Hello, I needed some help regarding sending a patch for a bug fix for the "dstat" package. The bug link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dstat/+bug/1870947. I'm not able to find how to submit a patch. This is my first time. Help would be appreciated :]
[19:21] <hanasaki> in virtmanager , what do you specify so the guest can get a dhcp address / lease from the outside ... ?
[20:11] <BlueEagle> dob1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[20:12] <_lars_> Hi, where are bug-reports about the installer? I do own a 11th gen i5 laptop, using intel VMD. When trying to use dualboot with Windows, I get the problem "bitlocker is installed. Stop.". There is no bitlocker activated, and never had been (new Windows installation!). I tried RHEL 8.3 (current), installation works, booting works.
[20:14] <BlueEagle> !bugs| _lars_
[20:15] <BlueEagle> _lars_: There is a section for "Filing a general bug against no particular package" section that may (or may not) apply
[20:15] <_lars_> BlueEagle: I do know that - but the problem is in the installer,
[20:15] <_lars_> (and I want to have a look if there is any bug filed already)
[20:16] <BlueEagle> _lars_: I believe that Launchpad is the place for ubiquity bugs too.
[20:17] <_lars_> ah. thanks for the package name.
[20:17] <_lars_> :)
[20:17] <BlueEagle> _lars_: https://launchpad.net/ubiquity
[20:19] <_lars_> yeah - i didn't remember the package name - and asking g**gle for launchpad installer is rather senseless :)
[20:19] <_lars_> thanks
[20:22] <_lars_> (ok, seems to be a new problem, so browsing the code)
[20:22] <_lars_> Thanks, BlueEagle
[20:23] <BlueEagle> _lars_: You're welcome. I was not able to find an existing report of Ubiquity erroneously detecting Bitlocker.
[20:24] <_lars_> me too
[20:49] <_lars_> ok, my fault. bitlocker was activated by windows installer, without asking, and without showing in windows control panel. cute. 20H2 Enterprise.
[20:53] <BlueEagle> _lars_: :)
[20:58] <_lars_> (without network, without joining AD...)
[20:58] <_lars_> sorry, and thanks BlueEagle.
[22:30] <zrub0> :set gui_lagometer=3
[23:01] <isene> xdg-open opens evince even though I have in my ~/.config/mimeapps.list "application/pdf=zathura.desktop" (/usr/share/applications/org.pwmt.zathura.desktop seems just fine). Why? And how to get it to open zathura?
[23:06] <oerheks> isene, maybe this oneliner is your help too, https://www.tomica.net/blog/2019/06/zathura-as-default-pdf-client-in-ubuntu  and logout/login after that
[23:07] <Sophist-UK> Hi - is this somewhere I can report a problem with the ubuntu server for Raspberry Pi 400 64-bit image?
[23:07] <isene> oerheks: Thanks :-)
[23:08] <oerheks> Sophist-UK, sure, launchpad
[23:08] <oerheks> !bug
[23:08] <oerheks> register first, to get feedback
[23:09] <isene> oerheks: Or maybe I need to apply the full filename - org.pwmt.zathura.desktop ?
[23:09] <Sophist-UK> launchpad?
[23:10] <Sophist-UK> Oh - got it!
[23:10] <oerheks> isene, i think zathura.desktop would do
[23:10] <oerheks> systemwide, that is.
[23:27] <dwhacksX220> I just upgraded my ubuntu server to 20.04 and now on boot its stuck at "/dev/vda1: clean, ..file.size.numbers..."
[23:27] <dwhacksX220> any idea? I can ctrl-alt-f2 to get into the terminal, or ssh as usual, but its not ideal
[23:28] <_[mandrix]_> dwhacksX220, configure your grub/bootloader and point it to the correct hdd/ssd
[23:28] <_[mandrix]_> dwhacksX220, lick /dev/sda
[23:29] <oerheks> vda .. check your host filesystem?
[23:29] <dwhacksX220> well that would be wrong mandrix, /dev/vda1 is correct, its a virtual machine
[23:30] <dwhacksX220> I seem to have fixed it by removing the "quiet" and "splash" options
[23:31] <dwhacksX220> but that seems like a strange outcome from the sys upgrade
[23:43] <Rubato> hi
[23:52] <px> can the ssh server be configured to accept connections from clients with where the private key doesn't match the public key?
[23:52] <px> -with
[23:53] <jayjo> I'm trying to download all the requirements for a kvm libvirt host offline. I'm referencing this question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22008193
[23:53] <jayjo> but I get a lot of Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 20.10 _Groovy Gorilla_ - Release amd64 (20201022)'
[23:53] <jayjo> can I ignore the initial installation repository somehow?
[23:54] <jayjo> or should that already be automatically commented out if the installation media is removed?


[02:19] -queuebot:#edubuntu- Builds: Edubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230523)


[02:31] <n-iCe> hi
[07:14] <zar__> where can i download for network driver
[07:14] <zar__> where can i download for network driver?
[07:14] <diogenes_> zar__, driver manager
[07:15] <zar__> where can i find that thing?
[07:16] <diogenes_> probably in the menu
[07:18] <zar__> no driver manager
[07:19] <zar__> im newbie in LUBUNTU OS please guide me
[07:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> zar__: version lubuntu?
[07:20] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://i.stack.imgur.com/Buo87.png
[07:20] <zar__> 16.04
[07:22] <zar__> cant detect TPLINK 3468
[07:29] <JohnDoe_71Rus> check /etc/default/grub line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=. need GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet nolapic"
[07:29] <zar__> https://imgur.com/a/1SNxMOV
[07:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> zar__: paste to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ output ip addr
[07:32] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or ifconfig -a
[07:35] <zar__> https://imgur.com/a/QJFFI2i
[07:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ens34 is TPLINK 3468?
[07:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you got ip
[07:39] <zar__> when i connect my cable for internet no connection
[07:39] <zar__> do i need driver to install?
[07:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 192.168.1.* is you home net?
[07:41] <quxgyver> How do I report Lubuntu bugs?
[07:43] <zar__> 192.168.1.* in work sir
[07:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> but this is your target net. if yes, you no need additional driver to TPLINK 3468 it work
[07:48] <zar__> yes sir but why cant connect to internet?
[07:49] <JohnDoe_71Rus> :) now you need configure network
[07:51] <zar__> how to configure?
[07:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> do you have ping google.com for example
[07:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en
[08:01] <zar__> thank you for guiding me sir johnDoe_71Rus
[12:12] <quxgyver> How do you create a desktop shortcut to a folder with pcmanfm? I've found guides online but none of them work or are applicable.
[12:21] <quxgyver> Nvm, found out how to do symlinks.
[15:09] <n-iCe> hi
[15:13] <diogenes_> hi
[21:28] <Thedarkb> I'm having terrible trouble with sleep.
[22:29] <doop> Hi folks. I'm installing lubuntu 18.04 on an old PC that I want to give away. Is there a way to install lubuntu so that it only asks to create a user/password on first boot rather than before installing the system? Thanks
[22:43] <krytarik> doop: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[22:43] <doop> krytarik: thank you


[00:23] <negronjl> thx IdleOne
[15:00] <ogra_> foo
[15:00] <pgraner> Release Meeting Time..
[15:00] <pgraner> I'm standing in for skaet so please be gentle :)
[15:01] <pgraner> Looks like most everyone is here so lets get going.... hopefully
[15:01] <pgraner> #startmeeting
[15:01] <pgraner> Agenda (and minute location):
[15:01] <pgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-07-06
[15:01] <pgraner> .
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jul  6 15:01:19 2012 UTC.  The chair is pgraner. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] <pgraner> Agenda (and minute location):
[15:01] <pgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-07-06
[15:01] <pgraner> .
[15:01] <pgraner> Upcoming dates:
[15:01] <pgraner> 2012/07/23 - Alpha 3 image candidates start
[15:01] <pgraner> 2012/07/26 - Alpha 3
[15:01] <pgraner> .
[15:02] <pgraner> Work Items:
[15:02] <pgraner> 2012/06/29 -  2763 (was 2782 last week):  We are on the trendline at this point.
[15:02] <pgraner> .
[15:02] <pgraner> Bugs:
[15:02] <pgraner> Quantal:
[15:02] <pgraner> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[15:02] <pgraner> 12.04.1:http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
[15:02] <pgraner> .
[15:02] <pgraner> Pending action items:
[15:02] <pgraner> * [brendand] provide prioritized list of HW CERT targets for 12.04.1,
[15:02] <pgraner> top 5, and prioritized order after that. (brendand, 20120629 15:12:00)
[15:02] <pgraner>   * [skaet] email balloons, cc: seb128, TheMuso - getting accessibility
[15:02] <pgraner>     community engaged on testing new GTK with ally enabled by default.
[15:02] <pgraner>     (skaet, 20120629 15:19:00) - DONE - 20120629
[15:02] <pgraner>   * [seb128] update on compiz ARM GLES plans (seb128, 20120629
[15:02] <pgraner>     15:29:00)
[15:02] <pgraner>   * [ogra_] find out arm java plans and lead (ogra_, 20120629 15:30:00)
[15:02] <pgraner> .
[15:03] <ogra_> whoops. did have a chance to talk to doko yet ... please carry over
[15:03] <pgraner> ogra_, ack thanks
[15:03] <ogra_> *didnt even
[15:04] <pgraner> brendand, seb128, any updates?
[15:04] <seb128> compiz gles is making good progresses
[15:04] <brendand> pgraner, i will send a follow up to the hwcert email with those bugs. i have them now
[15:04] <ogra_> \o/
[15:04]  * ogra_ loves good progress
[15:04] <brendand> i mean i will send the email to ubuntu-release, in response to my own email
[15:04] <seb128> the gsettings work is mostly done so they focus on gles atm and it's getting in good shape
[15:04] <ogra_> yay
[15:05] <seb128> ..
[15:05] <pgraner> seb128, do they have an ETA?
[15:05] <seb128> 1 or 2 weeks before upload
[15:05] <pgraner> brendand, ack
[15:05] <ogra_> pgraner, A1 :P
[15:05] <pgraner> seb128, thanks
[15:05] <pgraner> ogra_, ouch
[15:06] <pgraner> Ok moving on then...
[15:06] <pgraner> Weekly Status Received:
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001495.html - hw cert: brendand
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001505.html - qa team: jibel
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - community: balloons
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001497.html - security team: mdeslaur
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001503.html - kernel team: ogasawara
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001501.html - server team: arosales
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - linaro: fabo
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001509.html - foundations: ogra
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001498.html - ubuntu one: joshuahoover
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001499.html - desktop team: seb128
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001508.html - unity team: popey
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - kubuntu: jr
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001496.html - edbuntu: stgraber
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - xubuntu: knome
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - ubuntu studio: scott-work
[15:06] <pgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-July/001502.html - lubuntu: gilir
[15:06] <pgraner> No report                                                              - mythbuntu: superm1
[15:06] <pgraner> ** 2100 UTC - due time ^ Thank you to those who submitted on time **
[15:06] <pgraner> ** Reminder,  please get your team's summary in by 2100 UTC, so there's time to prep, take care of issues on the mail list, and keep the meeting short.
[15:06] <pgraner> .
[15:06] <pgraner> #topic Questions and Comments.
[15:07] <pgraner> Any other team minutes that didn't make the cutoff?
[15:08] <pgraner> Any other questions or comments, or can we put this meeting in the bag?
[15:08] <pgraner> Going once...
[15:08] <pgraner> twice...
[15:09] <pgraner> thats it then.... thanks everyone!
[15:09] <pgraner> #endmeeting
[15:09] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Jul  6 15:09:23 2012 UTC.
[15:09] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-06-15.01.moin.txt
[15:09] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-06-15.01.html
[15:09] <seb128> pgraner, thanks
[15:09] <mdeslaur> thanks pgraner! :)
[15:09] <arosales> Thanks pgraner for chairing
[15:09] <popey> thanks
[15:09] <ogra_> wow, short one
[15:09] <ogra_> thanks !!
[15:09] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:10] <jibel> thanks !


[21:40] <Punkoivan> Hi. Finally I got .deb package, edit copy, control, ch files, even add manpage (took away about 3 hours, I download source from repo and check example ).
[21:44] <Punkoivan> have 3 lintian-warnings, as I understood it's no critical - about bug in DBS, about package name and soname and about shlib without version.
[21:47] <Punkoivan> Package installed and working, but when I give wrong parameter it gives me something like this :
[21:48] <Punkoivan> home/pckgbuildtest/xkb-switch-1.0/XKbSwitch.cpp:219: Condition i!=syms.end() failed. bla-bla
[21:48] <Punkoivan> after it I remove app from system and install from source using cmake&make and give this error again.
[21:50] <Punkoivan> so, does it mean that it error in source and I should mail to devs or it my bad?
[21:51] <Punkoivan> Thanks, guys and sorry for dumb question.


[11:39] <kuzgun> merhaba
[16:00] <LjL> Hello. Sorry, I do not speak Turkish. Can you people access the internet? A Turkish friend is reporting that his entire internet seems blocked except for IRC.
[16:00] <LjL>  Merhaba. Üzgünüm, ben Türkçe bilmiyorum. İnsanların internet erişebilir miyim? Bir Türk arkadaşım onun bütün internet IRC dışında bloke görünüyor olduğunu bildiriyor.
 Hello. Sorry, I do not speak Turkish. Can you people access the internet? A Turkish friend is reporting that his entire internet seems blocked except for IRC.
[20:39] <aykut> yes we can
[20:40] <aykut> but sometimes our ISP throttles bandwith with certain websites like social media & news sites
[20:40] <aykut> for unknown reasons
[20:41] <aykut> mostly right after terrorist attacks
[20:42] <aykut> but there is no completely blocking entire web
[20:45] <aykut> recently an infrastructure failure (as we know) occured in east turkey and they cant have internet for a long time but it has to be fixed by now
[20:51] <LjL> aykut, i didn't mean in general, just when i asked. there had just been an attack so it could have been related, but if there was a big infrastructure failure then it might have been that instead...
[20:51] <aykut> LjL, but that is long time ago
[20:52] <aykut> if your friend cant access internet right now it must be something else
[21:33] <LjL> he can now. he couldn't around 16 UTC when i asked
[22:14] <egecx> selam


[00:11] <apb1963_> sarnold: still having problems here.   Trying to install wine and it keeps barfing.  Let me know when you wake up and if you're willing..  here are the details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23105248/  Thank you
[00:16] <RoyK> wine on a server?
[00:31] <sarnold> apb1963_: hrm, no ideas there. What does ./debug.sh do? where did you get the wine1.8-i386 package, I can't find it on launchpad
[00:38] <apb1963_> sarnold: debug.sh varies according to what I'm doing.  Right now it's "sudo aptitude --full-resolver -f install $1"
[00:38] <apb1963_> sarnold: or at least, that's what produced that output.
[00:40] <apb1963_> sarnold: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[00:40] <sarnold> apb1963_: ah. i never understood aptitude
[00:40] <apb1963_> me neither... I just collect random bits & pieces as I find them.
[00:41] <sarnold> apb1963_: you may need to ask scott and maarten for help, they may be more familiar with whatever it is that's going on
[00:42] <apb1963_> This too.  https://launchpad.net/~wine/+archive/ubuntu/wine-builds/
[00:42] <apb1963_> sarnold: maybe...  but vlc has somewhat similar problems
[00:44] <apb1963_> sarnold: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23105349/
[00:46] <sarnold> apb1963_: what does apt-cache policy vlc show?
[00:47] <apb1963_> apt-cache policy vlc
[00:47] <apb1963_> N: Unable to locate package vlc
[00:48] <apb1963_> sarnold: ^^^^^ Not in standard repos????
[00:48] <sarnold> apb1963_: do you have 'universe' enabled in your apt sources.list files?
[00:48] <apb1963_> no, not right now
[00:49] <apb1963_> I try to keep it disabled unless I need something specific.  Is that where vlc is?
[00:49] <sarnold> yes
[00:50] <apb1963_> sarnold: well that certainly made a huge difference.  lol
[00:52] <apb1963_> sarnold: that worked nicely thank you.  so... wine1.6 is in the standard repos?
[00:53] <sarnold> yes
[01:01] <apb1963_> sarnold: ok, I've purged the wine ppa and am reinstalling wine.  Seems to be working ok so far.  It's irritating because the first thing that pops up when you're looking for ubuntu wine is those ppa's I showed you... so yeah...  Been ripping my hair out all day over this.  As usual, in a few sentences you bring help& clarifty to the table without even trying.
[01:02] <apb1963_> s/clarifty/clarity/
[01:03] <apb1963_> so thank you for that!
[01:03] <sarnold> apb1963_: much better? :) woo
[01:03] <apb1963_> 3 minutes with you and a full days work could h ave been avoided.
[01:03] <sarnold> granted, it may be an older wine than the one you'd have otherwise
[01:04] <apb1963_> Well, #ubuntu support people are quite anal about things outside the acceptable repo list.
[01:04] <apb1963_> And get really nasty when you admit that you need a program that's not supplied... or updated sufficiently.
[01:05] <apb1963_> And therefore install a ppa.
[01:05] <sarnold> aye
[01:05] <sarnold> the trouble with ppas is that you must trust the authors of it completely
[01:05] <apb1963_> you mean like the wine repos?  vlc?  Things like that?  I think I can take a risk on those.
[01:06] <apb1963_> And that's what's so irritating about them.  Everybody uses that stuff but it's "unsupported".
[01:06] <sarnold> well, they are only as supported as the ppa authors choose :)
[01:07] <dcosnet> people complaining about support in an open source community makes me laugh. i am laughing for real.
[01:07] <apb1963_> I mean unsupported by #ubuntu
[01:09] <dcosnet> why would it be. go upstream with your questions/complaints/bug reports/patches
[01:09] <dcosnet> ...
[01:09] <apb1963_> dcosnet: You came late.  You missed the point.  I spent all day trying to resolve something that #ubuntu gave me grief over.  sarnold, gentleman that he is, gave me 2 minutes of his time today and resolved the issue.
[01:09] <dcosnet> well thats nice of him. congrads.
[01:10] <apb1963_> 12 freaking hours just today.
[01:10]  * sarnold bows
[01:10] <OerHeks> apb1963_, how valse ....
[01:10] <sarnold> funny thing of course is that I gave more or less the same end advice they did -- to use the package from the main archive :)
[01:10] <sarnold> s/main//
[01:10] <dcosnet> s//sigh/
[01:10] <apb1963_> That's true.. but you didn't make me feel like a leper
[01:11] <OerHeks> we have been telling him to properly remove ppaś .. at least apb1963_ was cooperative with information, but couldn't get it done.
[01:11] <OerHeks> moste people hide ppa's from support.
[01:11]  * dcosnet woosh
[01:11] <sarnold> OerHeks: hah, that's the quickest way to make no progress
[01:12] <dcosnet> well there goes my chances for a golden egg... ^
[01:12] <dcosnet> damnit.
[01:12] <apb1963_> OerHeks: Because 1. After I removed it, it couldn't find wine at all.  So I put it back.  And after spending much time googling, I was unable to find any reference to wine other than the two ppa's I was using.  2.  People don't talk abou their ppa's because someone always "piles on" with WE DONT SUPPORT THAT!  REINSTALL!
[01:12] <dcosnet> o good.
[01:13] <apb1963_> Now, why it was unable to find it before and why it found it this time around is a mystery.
[01:13]  * dcosnet hovers over magicalChicken waiting for a golden egg.
[01:13] <dcosnet> wtf is a ppa
[01:14] <dcosnet> some sort of ale?
[01:14] <apb1963_> dcosnet: nobody really knows.  It's best you not think about it.
[01:14] <dcosnet> o ok.
[01:14] <apb1963_> dcosnet: ale would make a good substitute though.
[01:15] <dcosnet> just assume no deviation from task goals. get more ale.
[01:15] <apb1963_> well, it downloaded, installed... haven't tried running it but there are no errors.
[01:15] <apb1963_> things are looking up
[01:16]  * dcosnet still doesnt know much about whats going on. continues hovering.
[01:16] <apb1963_> sarnold: I've decided to install asterisk on a different machine entirely.  It's not much of a machine but for my needs it should be sufficient.
[01:19] <sarnold> apb1963_: it probably doesn't take much...
[01:20] <apb1963_> sarnold: depends on what you're doing... if you're supporting 1000 phone devices... it takes more than just the one or two I have.
[01:20] <sarnold> apb1963_: ha :) true
[01:22] <dcosnet> i got some sun today
[01:23] <dcosnet> walking around with a metal detector
[01:23] <dcosnet> found nothing usefull
[01:23] <apb1963_> What's truly aggravating is I lost my phone number because google made a tiny little change to their service... and so a corresponding change needs to be made in the asterisk sources in order to continue using google; changing a 2 to a 23 and recompiling.  And that has led to this grand adventure of misery and insanity that could only be brought about by open source authors that supply "contributed scripts' that they don't support... but
[01:23] <apb1963_> tell you to use, and yet haven't been tested nor any clear indication given as to what version it might work with.
[01:24] <dcosnet> not that i want to promote a random corporate product, but i'm happy with my ooma device. works with google voice just fine.
[01:25] <apb1963_> When did you get it?
[01:25] <dcosnet> eh, month ago
[01:25] <apb1963_> sounds about right
[01:25] <dcosnet> aestricks gives me a headache
[01:25] <apb1963_> GV made the change something like 2 months ago... so if ooma was on the ball... they made their changes and all is well.
[01:26] <apb1963_> It was a change in how they authenticate
[01:26] <dcosnet> ah
[01:26] <apb1963_> ssl version 2 vs version 2.3
[01:26] <dcosnet> figures
[01:26] <apb1963_> And nobody in #asterisk had any idea what the problem was
[01:26] <apb1963_> Nor did they care, because they look down on GV and people that  use it.
[01:27] <apb1963_> But I found a post... and that post is what I'm working on testing to see if it works as stated.
[01:27] <apb1963_> asterisk is not for the faint of heart... I spent over 6 months learning it.
[01:27] <dcosnet> yea
[01:27] <apb1963_> and I only know enough to setup a small system such as my own.
[01:28] <dcosnet> yea, i feel the same way about bind as well
[01:28] <apb1963_> ha!
[01:28] <apb1963_> Yep.. bind, sendmail...
[01:28] <apb1963_> all fun stuff that took lots of time to learn
[01:28] <dcosnet> to much
[01:29] <apb1963_> Not to mention the purchase of books to facilitate it.
[01:29] <dcosnet> openvpn has my head spinning a bit too
[01:29] <apb1963_> Yeah that took a bit to hash out as well
[01:29] <dcosnet> developers: how can we make this as painfull as possible.
[01:29] <apb1963_> I'll have to do it again since I didn't have a permanent way to test it.
[01:30] <apb1963_> haha no doubt
[01:30] <apb1963_> Still... these are huge, major programs.. they do a lot.  You can't expect power to be simple.
[01:31] <dcosnet> in other news. i am very mad at the computer hardware industry for not putting pci-passthrough support (iommu) on all expensive motherboards
[01:31] <apb1963_> complain in ##hardware
[01:32]  * dcosnet needs to find another 2011-v3 mobo quick
[01:32] <dcosnet> yea
[01:32] <dcosnet> no point.
[01:32] <apb1963_> :)
[01:33] <dcosnet> its basically porking me on a recent job though
[01:33] <dcosnet> should have put slightly more research into the mobo first
[01:34] <dcosnet> anyway
[01:35] <dcosnet> now, about that golden egg.
[02:34] <apb1963_> sarnold: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/12/install-wine-1-8-stable-new-ppa/
[02:35] <sarnold> apb1963_: that's the usual tension between what's "upstream" vs what's packaged
[02:37] <apb1963_> yeah... but if you want 1.8, that's your ticket.
[02:38] <k2gremlin> Hello all. Been a while since I have used GNS3 but I now see the "VMWare" options in the preferences. Are we able to pull in ESXi VMs now???
[02:38] <apb1963_> sarnold: You had asked me about where I found it earlier so that was one extra link I forgot to give you earlier.
[02:38] <sarnold> apb1963_: aha
[02:40] <k2gremlin> Sorry about that last message. Was meant for the GNS3 channel >.<
[02:41] <sarnold> apb1963_: there's also this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine-development
[02:44] <apb1963_> ok.. I don't need latest and greatest wine I don't think... in fact, I barely use it.  My machine is too underpowered.
[04:58] <LUMIA930> -bash: /usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[04:59] <LUMIA930> <sudo ruby-install ruby 2.2.3> i have done this
[04:59] <LUMIA930> but still am getting this
[05:00] <sarnold> LUMIA930: compare the output of "file" on your ruby interpreter against the output of `uname -a`
[05:00] <sarnold> LUMIA930: it feels a bit like architecture mismatch
[05:00] <LUMIA930> •Ruby-install will leave everything in /opt/rubies/ruby-2.2.3/bin.
[05:00] <LUMIA930> but when i run this : RAILS_ENV=development bundle install
[05:01] <LUMIA930> its pointing to the : -bash: /usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:29] <LUMIA930> sarnold : how to point that ruby ?
[06:42] <PCdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/817572/openstack-fails-to-install-caused-by-juju
[13:18] <MelRay> Hey everyone I've never installed server before 16.04. I assumed there would be no xorg or xfce like xubuntu. I found out this was not correct. I have an issue though and that is that when I run startx it starts to fire up everything then halts with an error. Is this a known problem?
[13:21] <PCdude> MelRay:  I am not totally getting ur problem, but by default there is no desktop environment installed on the server version of ubuntu 16.04. if u wanna install a desktop environment look at the following link
[13:21] <PCdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2093/how-to-install-gui-desktop-on-a-server#2096
[13:22] <MelRay> PCdude: Thanks but I realized I executed startx without sudo in front of it. It does have it here and I didn't use apt-get to install it :-)
[13:22] <PCdude> ah ok, enjoy ur install :)
[13:23] <coreycb> ddellav, jamespage: the last day for non-client library releases was 8/25 so our next refresh of non-client libraries for openstack should be our last for newton
[13:31] <ddellav> codedmart ok
[13:31] <ddellav> errr coreycb
[13:32] <coreycb> ddellav, of course there will probably be feature freeze exceptions, so I should say "mostly"
[14:56] <cpaelzer> jamespage: does our openstack do anything about selecting a special machine type like pc_i440fx_2_4 or ubuntu-<release> or does it just take the default that qemu has unless the userspecifies something on his own?
[16:31] <Tahvok> Hey guys!
[16:31] <Tahvok> I'm reading about this:
[16:31] <Tahvok> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL
[16:31] <Tahvok> I'm trying to understand why can't I just downgrade to kernel 3.13?
[16:51] <sarnold> Tahvok: you may be able to, if your hardware would work with it; there's a general rule that package upgrades should work, downgrades may or may not work, because package maintainers may have to make one-way transitions in the package scripts
[16:51] <sarnold> Tahvok: so, you can try an old kernel, but if you run into trouble, well,... "that can happen, yes"
[16:53] <Tahvok> sarnold: from the hardware side, it will work for sure - it's a vm. I'm more concerned of the package downgrade scripts... How can I downgrade? I'll create a snapshot first.
[16:58] <sarnold> Tahvok: I think it'd be along the lines of "apt-get install linux-generic=3.13.0-95.142"
[16:59] <sarnold> Tahvok: then once you're content with it, you could apt-get purge the linux-generic-lts-* package and whatever packages that package brought in
[17:56] <Tahvok> sarnold: The downgrade process went well. Thanks a lot!
[17:56] <sarnold> Tahvok: nice :)
[17:57] <sarnold> Tahvok: pay attention to it for a bit to make sure you get the security updates that are coming in a few days
[17:57] <Tahvok> Yeah, of course. Thanks!
[17:59] <sbeattie> you will want the linux-image-generic (and maybe the linux-headers-generic) metapackage to keep up with updates as they are applied to the 3.13 kernels.
[18:00] <sbeattie> Tahvok: ^
[18:01] <blizzow> I have two drives with an mdadm raid 1 partition on them.  They have LVM on top of the raid device and in that LVM, I have my root partition.  I just tried to do a dist-upgrade and am getting errors saying:
[18:01] <blizzow> grub-probe: error: disk `lvmid/{REDACTEDUUID}' not found.
[18:02] <blizzow> Anyone know how I can get grub installing my kernel and updating my bootloader?
[18:13] <RoyK> blizzow: never seen that error, and I'm managing servers with root on md/lvm
[18:20] <blizzow> The worst part is I have no idea if it's safe to reboot my server and it's far away.
[18:53] <Walex> blizzow: 'update-grub2'
[19:04] <blizzow> Walex: that's the problem.  It says: "grub-probe: error: disk `lvmid/{REDACTEDUUID}' not found."
[19:43] <sarnold> Odd_Bloke: congratulations :)
[19:46] <kgirthofer> why is my screen session only in b&w
[19:46] <kgirthofer> well just the prompt - ls and vim and what ever are in the right colors
[19:47] <zioproto> Hello. Wow is full of people here. I am looking for Corey or James, anyone is around ?
[19:54] <halvors> Hi. Anyone know it it's possible to setup 2 redundant servers using KEA dhcp server?
[19:54] <hallyn> hm, i was dropping by to congratulate nacc but don't see him here.
[19:54] <hallyn> Odd_Bloke: congrats :)
[19:54] <sarnold> hallyn: very odd indeed isn't it? :)
[19:55] <sarnold> he's -always- here..
[19:55] <hallyn> he's out drinking to celebrate
[19:56] <teward> nacc is hiding in /dev/null 'cause I have a flurry of PHP evils to send his way
[19:56] <teward> :P
[19:57] <hallyn> i don't blame him
[20:05] <SupaYoshi> when running more than one website, is it advised to run both php-fqm and the actual website under different users for each website?
[20:11] <SupaYoshi> and i do everything through console, right now I see this as a pretty big investment in security but the setup time is quite long.. Is there anyone
[21:01] <rabbitdew> I'm having some issues getting an ubuntu server online. The other servers around it are good, it may be a link level issue, so I want to use lldpad. The only repo I have is the livecd
[21:01] <rabbitdew> Why wouldn't that be included there?! Is there something similar I could use?
[21:05] <rabbitdew> If I want to try using the other NIC, is there anything else I need to do then change /etc/network/interfaces and reboot
[21:06] <rabbitdew> I noticed the first one sends and receives packets, but doesn't seem to be acknowledged by the network. When I just change that file and reboot tcpdump doesn't show me anything
[21:07] <rabbitdew> ***change /etc/network/interfaces to the name (p2p2) of the other nic
[21:17] <rabbitdew> Actually, better question: If I want to switch the NIC that is configured to another NIC; do I have to do anything more than switch the name of that interface at /etc/network/interfaces
[21:17] <rabbitdew> ...and reboot (#service networking restart fails, as does # ifdown)
[21:32] <tomreyn> rabbitdew: if you have OOB access, you would "service networking stop", reconfigure the interface, "service netrworking start"
[21:32] <tomreyn> ...or just reboot after editing it
[21:34] <tomreyn> if you want to show the interfaces file you have there (you can replace / redact the numbers) i could try to double check on the formatting etc. if you like
[21:35] <rabbitdew> tomreyn: for sure. So my p2p1 was showing a lot of tx/rx packets but couldn't get on my network. I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces and replacing those values with p2p2, and rebooting
[21:38] <rabbitdew> That should be all it takes
[21:39] <rabbitdew> I just wanted to confirm I'm not missing some step
[21:39] <rabbitdew> tomreyn: cheers
[21:40] <tomreyn> welcome
[21:41] <tomreyn> obviously this would only make sense if you have both p2p1 and p2p2
[21:50] <mdunn> Hey guys, I have a question about systemd and sysv.
[21:51] <mdunn> I'm running Xenial, and I'm not sure if sysv runs by default, or it's just systemd wrapping up init.d scripts and doing magic.
[21:52] <mdunn> So if I run "update-rd.c app remove", is there a potential that apt will re-install the init.d script and run that init.d instead of systemd on a box reboot?
[22:05] <JanC> Xenial uses systemd, which has some sysvinit compatibility features
[22:13] <RoyK> mdunn: systemctl stop $service ; systemctl disable $service
[22:27] <mdunn> Thanks!


 P65Q
 hey, kubuntu 21.10 released yet ?
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/impish/release/kubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso (re @nijoja: hey, kubuntu 21.10 released yet ?)
 I hope I am correct 🤔
 thanks man
 official site links are not updated
[05:28] <mybalzitch> updating my desktop. rip stability ;)
[05:49] <NealRame> mybalzitch: please let us know how it went
[05:56] <mybalzitch> oh I got denied, gotta clean up /boot as always
[06:01] <NealRame> haha I know what u mean, got a similar situation with my storage server but it's all good as it's never upgraded anyway /dev/nvme0n1p2  275M  106M  149M  42% /boot
[06:02] <NealRame> i assume the upgrader script denied it? much better than the bad surprise later
[06:03] <mybalzitch> well, dunno why its keeping 3 old kernel versions, but thats me.
[06:03] <mybalzitch> yeah do-release-upgrade aborted it
[06:04] <NealRame> dodged a bullet there! thanks for sharing that. i'm on 21.04, will wait a couple of weeks I think
[06:06] <mybalzitch> well, I just had to remove 2 previous kernel versions to fix it. I could also adjust the initramfs script to only build needed modules instead of "most" to free up space
[06:07] <mybalzitch> I wonder how badly this will break my steam w/ custom proton
[06:55] <daft> My network is now working in Kubuntu 21.10 while it worked in the beta live cd.
[06:56] <daft> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0e)
[06:56] <daft> 03:00.0
[07:24] <Guest89> Is the download site down?
[07:24] <Guest89> It gives 404 when I press download
[07:24] <Nexus87> dowload for Kubuntu? I can check
[07:25] <Nexus87> download from where? torrent?
[07:25] <Guest89> just from website
[07:26] <Guest89> I just want to download ISO file
[07:26] <Guest89> It gives 404 error
[07:26] <Nexus87> Yes I also get 404 error
[07:27] <Nexus87> I think i have it on my flash drive if you'd like
[07:28] <Guest89> I'll wait to site to comeback
[08:02] <Baller> Greetings
[08:02] <Baller> How are you today? :)
[08:22] <dld7> hello, I get 404 when visiting the kubuntu download page
[10:22] <iomari891> greetings, where can I get checksums for kubuntu 21.10?
[10:39] <mparillo> Starting with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImpishIndri/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[10:39] <mparillo> The link for Download a bootable image takes you to: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/21.10/release/
[10:41] <mparillo> or you could curl http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/21.10/release/SHA256SUMS or wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/21.10/release/SHA256SUMS
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 Hey guys, you have a typo in the title/https (21.04 instead of 21.10) https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-21-04-impish-indri-released/
 Hey guys, you have a typo in the title/url (21.04 instead of 21.10) https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-21-04-impish-indri-released/
[15:33] <tomreyn> Andrzej: seems to have been fixed since, but it's good you pointed this out!
[15:59] <mparillo> Thank you. The kool kids call that a copy pasta mistake.
[15:59] <mparillo> I am also hoping that the URL will also say 21.10 soon.
[16:04] <tomreyn> mparillo: it already did for me - the one i ended up on
[16:04] <tomreyn> (maybe you're referring to this url as linked somewhere)
[16:06] <mparillo> Great. If you look above Andrezej's link it says 21.04.
[16:06] <mparillo> I think the headline changed first, the URL some time later.
 Nice! I had a deeper look at fixed version and I found small url typo, two Plasma 5.22 links point to 5.21, also "learn how to upgrade from 21.04" was fixed as I was writing this comment, someone is hard at work.
[17:00] <mparillo> Thank you for checking so carefully. I updated the source, and it seems to take some time to propogate.
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[18:16] <tomreyn> 4 characters needed - you can do it!
[18:31] <Guest7286> helo
[18:33] <user|20> Hello, Is kmail included in kubuntu 21.10?
[19:06] <mparillo> Thunderbird
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[23:03] <sysdoc> Does anyone have an idea on how to get the touch pad on a laptop to use pinch gestures in Firefox and Thunderbird for zoom in and out?