[20:22] <cablop> magnetron: i never uses LVM before.... mmmm welll i'll read those guides and came with an idea
[20:22] <chrissharp123> teemo: via Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager
[20:22] <cheater99> thanks guys
[20:23] <cheater99> i appreciate the quick response a lot
[20:23] <cheater99> it's very important
[20:23] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: add this on your interfaces anyway you can simply remove this anytime
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: auto eth0
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:23] <patx> slidinghorn, i need a real member, ive signed the code too
[20:23] <teemo> chrissharp123: how do i check for that?
[20:23] <slidinghorn> patx, well I'm not sure what you mean by "member"
[20:23] <io> patx: I'm a member.
[20:23] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Nope
[20:24] <io> !membership | slidinghorn
[20:24] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I already added that
[20:24] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: have you restarted?
[20:24] <patx> io, may i pm u? i have question
[20:24] <io> patx: Go ahead.
[20:24] <slidinghorn> !thankyou io
[20:24] <JessD> Zolomon : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:24] <JessD> Zolomon : Practice extreme caution!!
[20:24] <cryptk> without that in there all the /etc/init.d/networking restart would do if say reconfiguring interfaces with no resolution with my wired problem
[20:25] <JessD> Zolomon : Make sure you're in the right subdir when you run that!
[20:25] <Ravin1123> Hello everyone
[20:25] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: have your restarted the network? is this a builtin nic?
[20:25] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Thanks! I will be careful.
[20:25] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:25] <cryptk> It seems that the card is not starting up correctly because dmesg is reporting the mac as being BF:BF:BF:BF:BF:BF
[20:25] <JessD> Zolomon : One other, if you wanted to add more stuff to exclude
[20:25] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, yes, built in
[20:25] <magnetron> cablop, LVM is very flexible. i use LVM and created my file systems with "just enough" free space. if i need more i just grow them
[20:26] <JessD> Zolomon, pipe seperate the stuff like this : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte|this|that|the other)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:26] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: tried also to swap the lancables the one you are using now on irc?
[20:26] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, right now I am on wifi
[20:26] <Ravin1123> hello everyone, I'm having an issue with a lamp setup running ubuntu. I have the webserver set up and I can access it via the IP from the server, but when I try to access it from another computer, it times out and sends me to localhost. Can someone help me with this? Thanks!
[20:26] <xawan> I can't activate my wifi card broadcom :/ I tried with wlan0 up command
[20:26] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Aha, thank you!
[20:26] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  :)
[20:26] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, would a bad lan cable cause dmesg to report an incorrect mac addy?
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : Course, you need to escape spaces
[20:27] <blitzo> ravinl123 what times out sends you to localhost - your browser?
[20:27] <magnetron> cablop, i don't even need to reboot or unmount to grow them! you can also move the file system from one physical place to another, transparently
[20:27] <Ravin1123> yes the browser
[20:27] <teemo> chrissharp123: i searched and no, they dont seem to be in either of them
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte|this|that|the\ other)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:27] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Like ls | grep -v '(klagainte|this\ and\ that)' etc?
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : Exactly!
[20:27] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:27] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: yes why not try other cable
[20:27] <magnetron> Ravin1123, make sure you bind it to an external interface/IP
[20:27] <cablop> magnetron: to move to another place? hot?
[20:27] <blitzo> ravinl123 use a person's nick when replying - it makes the message stand out in all this flow
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : I asked you about dots because
[20:27] <xawan> i got "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Error desconocido 132
[20:27] <xawan> "
[20:27] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, gimmie a second
[20:27] <magnetron> cablop, yeah
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon If ls returned ".."
[20:28] <Ravin1123> Blitzo: sorry about that. Don't use IRC much.
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon You would have said "rm -rf ../"
[20:28] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon : Which is _not_ good
[20:28] <Zolomon> tell JessD: That would remove everything in the folder above the current one?
[20:29] <xawan> Help :|
[20:29] <blitzo> Ravin1123 me neither, i just started yesterday.  ok i'm trying to understand your problem.  what do you mean by "it sends me to localhost" do you have a web server running on the same box you are using the browser on?
[20:29] <dad3> can someone send me a file to see if it works?
[20:29] <chrissharp123> teemo: ok - step 5 in your instructions assumes that the directory is already there (as you did).... so the fact that it's not tells me that something went wrong before...
[20:30] <JessD> Zolomon : Yep.  You either need to instruct ls not to return them or egrep them out.  Remember that this is regex, and "." is a character meaning "any single character", so dots need escaping as well..
[20:30] <JessD> Zolomon Easier to dell ls not to do that...
[20:30] <cheater99> hi again
[20:30] <Ravin1123> Blitzo When I attempt to use a browser on my Lamp server machine, the browser allows me access to the page. When I use a different computer on the network and type the IP of the computer into the browser, the browser sends me to "Localhost" instead of the actual webpage.
[20:30] <teemo> chrissharp123: i think i built make while i was in the wrong dir
[20:30] <teemo> 3> In os/linux/config.mk
[20:30] <cheater99> i noticed that the gnome panel was working because i ran compiz as root
[20:30] <disappearedng> hey I a tooltip from firefox stuck in my screen. Is there anyway to restart my screen wo restarting my computer
[20:30] <Zolomon> tell JessD: dell?
[20:31] <JessD> Zolomon : Sorry, tell.
[20:31] <cheater99> i ran it as my normal user and the gnome panel is hidden again
[20:31] <teemo> i was in the driver folder, directory
[20:31] <cheater99> the panel IS running, it's just invisible
[20:31] <magnetron> Ravin1123, do you happen to enter "<IP_ADDRESS>" as the IP?
[20:31] <cheater99> i cannot get into the compiz settings manager, what's the command for that?
[20:31] <MonsieurSalhi> is there a french chat ??
[20:31] <magnetron> !fr | MonsieurSalhi
[20:31] <nimbiotics_> hello evry1. My nvidia card died on me yesterday and i had to use another video card for a while. I just installed a new nvidia card but now compiz is not working. Any ideas? TIA!
[20:31] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Right, thanks a lot! :)
[20:31] <Ravin1123> Magnetron Sorry, I'm not using <IP_ADDRESS> as the ip. I'm using the static Ip I set up for the webserver.
[20:31] <teemo> chrissharp123: when i try to build from inside os/linux i get:
[20:32] <JessD> Zolomon : Quite welcome!
[20:32] <teemo> Makefile:1: /os/linux/config.mk: No such file or directory
[20:32] <teemo> make: *** No rule to make target `/os/linux/config.mk'.  Stop.
[20:32] <MonsieurSalhi> merci pour l'aide
[20:32] <Bogus8> can I tweak landscape-sysinfo to add extra partitions mounted?
[20:32] <magnetron> MonsieurSalhi, de rien
[20:32] <blitzo> Ravin1123 see if you can telnet to the ip number of the machine running the lamp on port 80.  open a terminal and type "telnet nn.nn.nn.nn 80"  if it connects type "GET /"
[20:32] <teemo> but then i never did the changes in step 3: define the GCC and LD of the target machine and define the compiler flags CFLAGS
[20:33] <cablop> magnetron: wow... well i don't know how to combine the LVM and a raid 1 thing... it sounds good enough, but... mmmm
[20:33] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, no go
[20:33] <cablop> magnetron: cause what i want is a raid 1, meaning mirroring disks
[20:34] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, the only other cable I have is the one from the modem to the router and that didn't work either
[20:34] <rhalff> hi what's the name of the default gtk theme in ubuntu ? I want to download it
[20:34] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: so i think cable is fine
[20:34] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, my wired connection works find in windows so I know the cable and the card are fine
[20:34] <Ravin1123> blitzo It seemed to connect, spit a bunch of information.
[20:35] <blitzo> Ravin1123 was that stuff the content of the page you expected to find?
[20:35] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: tried this also? sudo ifup eth0
[20:35] <Beyecixramd> PATA disks are hot-pluggable?
[20:35] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, with the entry added into /etc/networking/interfaces it gives the message I put in pastebin earlier...
[20:36] <cryptk> without that entry added it gives Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  not that ive ever seen
[20:36] <Beyecixramd> thanks Dr_Willis
[20:36] <^Jay2^> ubuntu network connections gets dropped when downloading huge torrent. this is annoying
[20:36] <cryptk> something is keeping the card from being recognized properly, hence the dmesg output with the wrong MAC
[20:36] <savasci> good evening. i was installed ubuntu 8.04 on a partition of my drive, but grub failed to install. then i rebbot ubuntu, but this time my old windows booted. I think there is no change on MBR or related things, how to fix it? any suggesitons?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  that was to be a feature of the sata stuff.. but i still think that needs special hardware/software. so im not even sure thats really doable either. (at leat ive never seen it done)
[20:37] <tjor> I am running 10.04 on a usb flash drive like I did with 9.04. I forget how to configure it to shut down 'without' prompting for the user's password ! How do I do that ? Thanks
[20:37] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: i prefer not to mess around, not sure if my motherboard is capable of hot swapping, i could put my entire power block, or motherboard in risk :P
[20:37] <Ravin1123> blitzo I think so, but I'm not 100%. It looks like I set up the webserver to direct to localhost somewhere. as when I type the IP of the server address when I'm on the server, it redirects to the webpage, but the address bar says http://localhost/
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  ive seen these external usb 'things' that let you plug in a sata drive like it was a Nintendo Cartridge. :)
[20:38] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: :P me too
[20:38] <teemo> chrissharp123: u still there?
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: is this what you have now in your interfaces? auto lo
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> iface lo inet loopback
[20:38] <scriptwarlock>
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> auto eth0
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:38] <FloodBot2> scriptwarlock: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <blitzo> Ravin1123 did you manually configure that in your apache?  it won't do that by default
[20:38] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:38] <red> blitzo: apache doesnt
[20:38] <red> but hosts do
[20:38] <red> on lucid i had <IP_ADDRESS> localhost in hosts file
[20:39] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: sorry forgot.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/465591/
[20:39] <Ravin1123> blitzo I might have, but I don't know where I did it.
[20:39] <dad3> why does my wireless router show this computer as being "not connected" when obviously it is?
[20:39] <Ravin1123> I'm running lucid
[20:39] <red> try /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[20:39] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I have that in there
[20:39] <red> after changes you need to "sudo service apache2 restart"
[20:39] <cryptk> one sec, I have an idea, brb
[20:40] <red> you could also go ask in apaches help channel #httpd (if i recall correctly)
[20:40] <tweak> hi everyone. i have a digital camera and im trying to take the picturs off it on my new pc, and the repository software doesnt work. it did on my old pc running same version of linux (ubuntu 10.04) but this version is 64 bit. any ideas?
[20:40] <chrissharp123> teemo: I think you'll have to find a way to undo what you did (somehow), then try again step by step (without skipping anything)
[20:40] <sheepz_> is it possible to determine when ubuntu was first installed on my computer? or the partition created?
[20:40] <red> tweak: if your camera is in mass storage mode you could just go browse it and manually copy
[20:40] <blitzo> Ravin1123 you can do that in a meta statement in your html and there's a way to do it in apache
[20:40] <AegNuddel> I am not getting any help where I thought I could.  Does anyone know about audacity?
[20:40] <Ravin1123> red In the httpd.conf file I have "ServerName "IP:80" And thats it
[20:40] <red> images are usually under DCIM folder in most cameras
[20:41] <red> Ravin1123: sec
[20:41] <blitzo> Ravin1123 main thing is apache is working and it is serving up pages on that ip number - telnet proves that
[20:41] <tweak> red: its a really simple camera with 2 buttons im not sure how to put it in mass storage mode ><
[20:41] <red> tweak: most usually automaticly go in such mode tho
[20:41] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, most cameras that i have delt with do mass storage mode automatically.
[20:41] <red> can you see it when you open nautilus, in the left side bar?
[20:42] <magnetron> cablop, i would use a more advanced backup system than RAID1. i'd use rdiff-backup. focus on backing up the file system, not the physical discs
[20:42] <tweak> red, Mr_Sonoma: under places its not listed like my other drives are for mounting
[20:42] <Ravin1123> blitzo I see what your saying, I just think I somehow misconfigured or typed something wrong, to make incomming connections to apache go to the wrong place or something.
[20:43] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: sometimes it gets a response by shutting down the machine and unplug the cable and wait for a couple of minutes and boot and plug later the cable after you login
[20:43] <ManDay> Help! I just started and neither my keyboard nor my mouse do function! My graphic tablet and other input devices work tho - but no keyboard no login no fun. I checked the Xorg logs and Xorg claims to have recoqnized and set up the mouse and the keyboard - no errors, no warnings! Before that happen iirc I've deleted some files out of /etc/udev/rules.d which I deemed unnessesary - Anyone any idea and can maybe help?
[20:43] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, the thing is the card is not being recognized correctly
[20:43] <bullgard4> sheepz_: Try Synaptic > File > History
[20:43] <blitzo> Ravin1123 someone mentioned an #apache channel - have u tried there?
[20:43] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, dmesg reports an incorrect MAC address
[20:43] <cryptk> [    1.046943] eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at 0xffffc90000c78000, bf:bf:bf:bf:bf:bf, XID 1c2000c0 IRQ 28
[20:44] <cryptk> see the MAFC
[20:44] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, what kind of camera?
[20:44] <cryptk> MAC
[20:44] <cryptk> bf:bf:bf:bf:bf:bf
[20:44] <Ravin1123> blitzo, I'll give that a shot. thank you
[20:44] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: can you point the right chipset of your network card      lspci
[20:44] <Ziber> Is there a way to run "sudo -u <user> -i" without having to enter a password?
[20:45] <scriptwarlock> just paste one line of the chipset of your network card see what we can do
[20:45] <tweak> mr_sonoma: says vivitar mini digital camera. no model number its just a cheap one. whats puzzling is that it worked on my old pc with ubuntu linux and now not on this one thats much newer with same distro
[20:45] <Ziber> I have my sudoers file setup so I can gain root without a password (I'm in a group that allows it)
[20:45] <cablop> magnetron: rdiff? well, what i want to backup are simple files like img and mp3, and wanted to use raid1 just to make them easier to manage, and easier to replace the fil;es, i'm just uusing and old machine and willing to make it the file repository, and put a few other things on it
[20:45] <ubuntu__> ada anak indo
[20:45] <cryptk> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[20:46] <cablop> magnetron: i also want to be able to access my linux files from windows or a live CD with not much effort... but indeed this LVM thing catched my attention
[20:46] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, ^^
[20:46] <ManDay> Help! I just started and neither my keyboard nor my mouse do function! My graphic tablet and other input devices work tho - but no keyboard no login no fun. I checked the Xorg logs and Xorg claims to have recoqnized and set up the mouse and the keyboard - no errors, no warnings! Before that happen iirc I've deleted some files out of /etc/udev/rules.d which I deemed unnessesary - Anyone any idea and can maybe help?
[20:46] <teemo> can someone help walk me through the build instructions here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BK9hPjUy
[20:46] <Mr_Sonoma> !patience | ManDay
[20:47] <cablop> magnetron: and i don't want to exactly backup the file system... it's not a big deal for me, the data is more important and i think to dettach the disk and put in another disk is good enough... well, but i'm curios about the rdiff thing and the snapshots
[20:47] <rabbit_> fancy!
[20:47] <ManDay> Mr_Sonoma: sorry i have no feeling for time having passed, small screen huge text in irssi
[20:47] <ManDay> and this is kinda urgent
[20:48] <rabbit_> i'm trying to install icon sets that I got from gnome look, can't figure it out
[20:48] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: do you have spare nic card there? like gigabyte or linksys or similar
[20:48] <tweak> rabbit_: its very simple
[20:48] <thune3> ManDay: you are going to have to restore those files in udev. you can boot live system and extract files from udev package and copy them over.
[20:48] <ManDay> Maybe if I could get the files in etc/udev/rules.d from somewhere I could put them back and check whether this was the reason - where can I get them?
[20:48] <scaivy> i dont remenber the chanel french pls
[20:48] <tweak> tabbit_: open your appearance preferences and drag and drop the package to that window
[20:48] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, nope...
[20:48] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, are you sure your usb cable is good? your actually getting power from the USB port? i'm kinda outta ideas for you (looking at HCL) but i remember beating my head silly on a simmilar problem years back only to discover my cable had crapped out
[20:48] <scaivy> i dont remenber the chanel french pls
[20:48] <ManDay> thune3: live cd sounds ok
[20:49] <ManDay> thune3: you think those files caused that?
[20:49] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, lemme try something else
[20:49] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:49] <ManDay> thune, i can tell you what I KEPT:
[20:49] <cryptk> brb
[20:49] <rabbit_> i tried that and it didn't work
[20:49] <savasci> good evening. i was installed ubuntu 8.04 on a partition of my drive, but grub failed to install. then i rebbot ubuntu, but this time my old windows booted. I think there is no change on MBR or related things, how to fix it? any suggesitons? (reposted for urgency)
[20:49] <tweak> rabbit_: did you select the new icons under advanced?
[20:49] <sheepz_> bullgard4: thank you
[20:49] <ManDay> thune3: well, looking at the files i think there is nothing related to keyboard left, lol
[20:49] <rabbit_> lemme try it again and see
[20:49] <_hexguy> teemo: is that a driver?
[20:50] <ManDay> thune3: im going to give it a shot thanks already
[20:50] <rabbit_> tweak: trying again
[20:50] <teemo> _hexguy: yes
[20:50] <sweetpi> ... one should not go around deleting files at random, or keyboards and mice may be deemed unnecessary
[20:50] <tweak> mr_sonoma: nah the cable is good lol.
[20:50] <_hexguy> teemo: and in what do you need help?
[20:50] <teemo> i want to install the drivers
[20:50] <scaivy> pls someone can said me the chanel for french ?
[20:50] <teemo> and i cant
[20:51] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[20:51] <teemo> i cant run make
[20:51] <scaivy> pls someone can said me the chanel for french ?
[20:51] <cablop> magnetron: well, sorry to ask too much, but cause i got interested but i don't know this system and i have to create a system NOW, i want to make the best decision
[20:51] <sweetpi> !fr | scaivy
[20:51] <BluesKaj> teemo, install build-essential
[20:51] <_hexguy> teemo: whats the output?
[20:51] <teemo> make: *** No rule to make target `/os/linux/config.mk'.  Stop.
[20:51] <thune3> ManDay: you can download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/udev and extract files: mkdir udev_extrat; dpkg -x udev_151-12_i386.deb udev_extract
[20:51] <rabbit_> tweak: where is this advanced you speak of?
[20:52] <rabbit_> tweak: lucid
[20:52] <ManDay> thune3: i got a live cd here i m just not sure whether i can easily obtain the files from there
[20:52] <ManDay> thune3: you think downloading the udev package and extracting is better?
[20:52] <tweak> rabbit_: sorry, Appearance preferences> theme> customize< icons
[20:52] <tweak> rabbit_: sorry, Appearance preferences> theme> customize> icons (correction)
[20:52] <cablop> magnetron ,  i have a single disk, i want to setup i with LVM and then when i got a second disk convert the system into raid1, can i? another question, can i mount a lvm into a new system and see this lvm or do i have to convfigure too many things?
[20:53] <thune3> ManDay: should be easier than chrooting, if you are just trying to restore a few files. The extraction will just give you the files, then you can copy them over.
[20:53] <spiky_> I,m using ZENMAP  I get 4 hosts up on my lan, when I use NMAP I only get 2 hosts up any ideas
[20:53] <rabbit_> tweak: and i should just drag it in there? it just heads out again
[20:53] <chrissharp123> +6.
[20:53] <_hexguy> teemo: where can i download that file?
[20:53] <ManDay> thune why would i chroot? i just need the files!?
[20:53] <tweak> rabbit_: its not listed under icons?
[20:54] <rabbit_> oh wait! It just worked!
[20:54] <tweak> rabbit_: there ya go :)
[20:54] <teemo> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_GBR&productCategory=5&modelNumber=1699&partNumber=4338&downloadType=1&knowsPartNumber=false
[20:54] <rabbit_> tweak: i don't know what i was doing wrong, thanks! :)
[20:54] <tweak> rabbit_: glad to help
[20:54] <ManDay> thune3: the rules files are not in that package! http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/udev/filelist
[20:54] <rabbit_> :)
[20:54] <thune3> ManDay: if you wanted to reinstall the package on the installed system from your livecd boot, then chroot.... but copying is easier
[20:54] <teemo> BluesKaj: i installed build essentials
[20:54] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[20:54] <teemo> what next?
[20:54] <_hexguy> teemo: one sec
[20:54] <thune3> ManDay: checking
[20:55]  * motoko says hi
[20:55] <magnetron> cablop, you can see this disk and all its LVM filesystems in any OS that supports LVM. it's a little more complicated compared to an ordinary partition but that is the price you pay for having partitions that are EXACT the size you need. if you later install an extra HDD you can move, copy or grow the file system onto the new drive
[20:55] <carlos82> hello community
[20:55] <monkey_dust> !hi| motoko
[20:56] <carlos82> i have problems with audio calls in empathy
[20:56] <ManDay> thune3: I think the live cd makes it easier if you just could tell me how to obtain the files. i assume that when the live cd boots the files i need are somewhere in some zip - can I specifically extract them from it?
[20:56] <tweak> is there a way to check (in command line) what is all plugged into my usb ports
[20:56] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I fixed it
[20:56] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: how?
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> tweak:  'lsusb'
[20:56] <motoko> tweak: lsusb ?
[20:56] <ManDay> If anyone with amd64 could send me his vanilla /etc/udev/rules.d that would also be okay
[20:56] <ManDay> CAN someone?
[20:56] <thune3> ManDay: that package has most of the rules files listed there. which one are you looking for?
[20:56] <carlos82> hello... i have problems with output sound in empathy, anyone can help me?
[20:56] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, lsusb
[20:57] <cablop> magnetron: and what happens to a disk with LVM if  it's extended to two hard disks and one just fail, hardware failure, do i lose the LVM volumes?
[20:57] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I deleted /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then shutdown completely and started back up
[20:57] <_hexguy> teemo: I dont understand whats the problem, i can run make without any issues
[20:57] <cryptk> had the OS regenerate the rules file and now all is good
[20:57] <teemo> inside linux/os?
[20:57] <_hexguy> teemo: are you in the directory that your supposed to be in_
[20:57] <Anonyme> hi
[20:57] <magnetron> cablop, yes. i recommend backups.
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> ManDay, /etc/udev/rules.d is a directory (on 10.04 at least)
[20:57] <Anonyme> how are you
[20:58] <_hexguy> teemo: where did you untar the file?
[20:58] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: good and please jot down onhow you did it and put it in a safe place
[20:58] <tweak> mr_sonoma: ah ok yeah it says my cam in plugged in and recognizes it /cry. so uh how do i access the pictures on it
[20:58] <teemo> _hexguy: downloads
[20:58] <ManDay> thune3: what package? the one you game me? i dont see any in http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/udev/filelist
[20:58] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I got it off the launchpad bugs site, so it is already there
[20:58] <carlos82> hello... i have problems with output sound in empathy, anyone can help me?}
[20:58] <ManDay> ZykoticK9: i know thats what i mean
[20:58] <ManDay> i need the whole dir more or less
[20:58] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, cd or browse to that location is mounted to
[20:58] <_hexguy> teemo: did you edit everything you had to edit?
[20:58] <ManDay> how do I scroll in irssi ?
[20:59] <teemo> no
[20:59] <thune3> ManDay: the /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules files are the ones you are talking about no?
[20:59] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: a bug? hmm dont have that kind of hardware in my cybershop... but the good thing is you found the solution
[20:59] <cablop> well, then the next queston is
[20:59] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, my cameras mount to /media i believe
[20:59] <_hexguy> ManDay: PAGE UP/DOWN
[20:59] <ManDay> thune3: indeed
[20:59] <ManDay> _hexguy: thankx
[20:59] <Jigal> hello my ubuntu doesn't come up again after update tried live cd but doesn't work either
[20:59] <teemo> _hexguy: In Makefile set the "MODE = STA"
[20:59] <Jigal> drives me nuts
[20:59] <_hexguy> teemo: thats already done
[21:00] <teemo> ok
[21:00] <tweak> mr_sonoma: maybe its not mounted just plugged in its not listed there but my other drives are
[21:00] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:00] <cablop> i had this whole computer in ntfs... i want to switch to another filesystem, as long as o won't need ntfs anymore, but i dislike that issue on ext4 about delayed writting, i have no ups and no plan to buy one today, but i need to not to risk my files... wahat can i do?
[21:00] <kopter> Hi, I most of the time watch clips on youtube, mainly listen to music and therefore use adobe flash...non free software, by any chance gnash supports youtube clips?
[21:00] <teemo> _hexguy: define the GCC and LD of the target machine
[21:00] <teemo> in step 3
[21:00] <mgolisch> cablop: make backups?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  use ext3 if you  want.
[21:00] <mgolisch> thats how you protect important files
[21:01] <noway777> I have 2 NIC configured to work on two different LAN. Both are active at start-up and the flag says that they are both active all the time. The problem is that if I use a LAN the other become unavailable, and  the network manager says that both are ON. Then if I switch of the one that don't work and I re-activate it I can go to the other LAN w/o any problem, but the LAN that was browsable...
[21:01] <noway777> ...just before to re-activate the second NIC dont browse anymore. To browse I have to re-activate the 1st NIC.  Any Idea?
[21:01] <cablop> mgolisch: i can't make a hot backup of svn files on runtime
[21:01] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, seems like it
[21:01] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, have you tried to mount it?
[21:01] <thune3> ManDay: they are in there. i don't understand why you can't see them in the list. unless you are talking about one not in there.
[21:01] <carlos82> how can change between pulse and alsa in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:01] <tweak> mr_sonoma: sadly i dont know how
[21:01] <ManDay> erm thune3 wait ill look again, am i possibly blind..
[21:01] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: now your using the lan?
[21:02] <carlos82> how can i change between pulse and alsa audio in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:02] <_hexguy> teemo: do you have the kernel sources installed?
[21:02] <mgolisch> no idea why would you need to?
[21:02] <ManDay> thune3: im a 100% positive that the only file of /etc/udev/rules listed in there is /etc/udev/rules.d/README
[21:02] <teemo> _hexguy: i have no idea
[21:02] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, lol been a while since i tried mounting anything from command line. maybe someone more familar with that command can help you. In the mean time i'll look it up and try to find you a good howto
[21:02] <kopter> Hi, I most of the time watch clips on youtube, mainly listen to music and therefore use adobe flash...non free software, by any chance gnash supports youtube clips?
[21:02] <ManDay> thune3: do you see something else?
[21:03] <thune3> ManDay: scroll down a 100 lines
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> kopter:  youtube is supposed to be supporting HTML5 now. If your browser can handle it.
[21:03] <tweak> mr_sonoma: ah ok thank you
[21:03] <ManDay> thune3: nothing, no more files from /etc
[21:03] <_hexguy> teemo: ok lets try
[21:03] <tweak> mr_sonoma: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 093a:010e Pixart Imaging, Inc. Digital camera, CD302N/Elta Medi@ digi-cam/HE-501A under lsusb
[21:03] <ManDay> is this a misunderstanding?
[21:03] <_hexguy> teemo: alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal
[21:04] <kopter> Dr_Willis,  Ohh so no more need of flash, good point
[21:04] <carlos82> how can i change between pulse and alsa audio in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:04] <ManDay> thune3: are you maybe looking at some other page?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> kopter:  Yep. Down with Flash :)
[21:04] <teemo> ok
[21:04] <thune3> Manday: are you sure you aren't looking for /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules
[21:04] <Jigal> which bootloader do i need when updating ubuntu fails?
[21:04] <cablop> which one is better reiserfs and ext3?
[21:04] <_hexguy> teemo: navigate to the directory where the driver is untar
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  depends on you rneeds.. I would stick with ext3 - unless you have some verys pecial needs
[21:05] <ManDay> thune3: yes i am sure
[21:05] <cablop> did reiserfs lose support?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, which bowsers can do html5 ?
[21:05] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, indeed, I am on the LAN
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  googles browser. and i think the latest opera and that beta of ff. but ive not tested those
[21:05] <ManDay> thune3: check on your system /etc/udev/rules.d
[21:05] <ManDay> i have some here on my 32b too
[21:06] <Jigal> which bootloader do i need when updating ubuntu fails?
[21:06] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: k thats nice enjoy...
[21:06] <tweak> jigal: grub
[21:06] <ManDay> Does anyone here have a 64b system and can check his /etc/udev/rules.d for how many files are in there?
[21:06] <BluesKaj> ok cool, Dr_Willis , y default is google-chrome , chromium began get buggy so i switched
[21:06] <BluesKaj> my
[21:06] <teemo> ok
[21:06] <_hexguy> teemo: what's the output of echo $PWD >
[21:07] <_hexguy> teemo: what's the output of echo $PWD ?*
[21:07] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, i may have just remembered a graphical way for you to try. go to system, administration, disk utility and see if your camera shows on the left there. click on it then click mount on the right. (be aware i'm not familar with your exact camera or what the result will be if it isn't in mass storage mode)
[21:07] <happyface> how do I "mount -o loop *.img /mnt" and specify which partition in the .img to mount?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  ---> 0-vboxdrv.rules  70-persistent-cd.rules  70-persistent-net.rules  85-yshid.rules  README
[21:07] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  you have to use the 'offset' feature of mount i recall.
[21:07] <ManDay> I dont think its my removal of these files then, thune3
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  i saw a guide on it once...
[21:07] <ManDay> Let me repeat my question
[21:08] <happyface> Dr_Willis: ah that's what I was thinking... I wonder how to find that
[21:08] <spiky_> I,m using ZENMAP  I get 4 hosts up on my lan, when I use NMAP I only get 2 hosts up any ideas
[21:08] <navid> Dr_Willis: hi. could u plz help me install tor?
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  fdisk -l on the file i recall.. and then  figure otu the #'s from there
[21:08] <teemo> _hexguy: /home/tamer/Downloads/DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V<IP_ADDRESS>_20100412 chips common In include iwpriv_usage.txt LICENSE ralink-firmware.txt Makefile os README_STA_usb RT2870STACard.dat RT2870STA.dat sta sta_ate_iwpriv_usage.txt tools
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> navid:  theres some tor ubuntu wiki page that details it.. I dont find tor worth the effort.
[21:08] <_hexguy> teemo: type make then enter
[21:09] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:09] <navid> Dr_Willis: if you live in iran u don't say that
[21:09] <teemo> cp: cannot remove `/tftpboot': Permission denied
[21:09] <teemo> ill sudo
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> navid:  dont trust tor.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> navid:  good luck.
[21:09] <teemo> ok done
[21:09] <navid> Dr_Willis: thanx by the way
[21:09] <_hexguy> teemo: did it work?
[21:09] <cablop> Dr_Willis: well, my special needs are just, i had this errors in the past, like losing files or deleting partitions by mistake and needing to recover files from the disk surface, lol, i don't know if it's easy to recover files from ext3 or reiserfs or ext2 in that case... this is my main concern bout partitions
[21:10] <teemo> _hexguy: no errors
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  deleting partitions by mistake?  Hmmm......
[21:10] <_hexguy> teemo: then you're done compiling
[21:10] <_hexguy> teemo: good luck with the rest
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  its hard to 'lock down'  mistakes like that.
[21:10] <tweak> mr_sonoma: it recognized my camera and is mounted i guess but hmm cant access it
[21:10] <ManDay> thune3: thanks, by the way
[21:10] <teemo> !
[21:11] <teemo> i already completed that
[21:11] <cablop> Dr_Willis: hehe, just put windows an linux in the same disk and you start to see how easy is to let windows kill your system
[21:11] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, at what location is it mounted?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  that BTRFS is supposed to have some sort of 'go back' feature.. but ive never used it.
[21:11] <teemo> i got stuck on step 6
[21:12] <_hexguy> teemo: thought you said the problem was with make
[21:12] <tweak> mr_sonoma: under location it just says -
[21:12] <teemo> well i did what u said b4, the make worked fine
[21:12] <tweak> mr_sonoma: but no option to mount
[21:13] <teemo> but i got stuck @ step 6, so i assumed i was building the wrong makefile
[21:13] <teemo> that i was supposed to build the one inside os/linux
[21:13] <teemo> that i couldnt make
[21:13] <_hexguy> teemo: one sec
[21:13] <TMK> has the NSA cracked skype yet?
[21:14] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, cant say i've ever seen that.....
[21:14] <tweak> mr_sonoma: lol
[21:15] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:15] <froschi> why has the movie player no dvd source package and cannot find one either?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> dvd source package?
[21:15] <_hexguy> teemo: ok you need to locate the rt2870sta.ko file
[21:16] <_hexguy> teemo: which should be under os/linux/
[21:16] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, does it give you the option to unmount, then possibly remount it
[21:16] <Akkernight> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, and I've set my partitions up with GParted, but it doesn't seem to work to just specify the wanted partition for Ubuntu manually
[21:16] <teemo> ok
[21:16] <_hexguy> teemo: got it?
[21:16] <ROMEO_> Hey guys need some help i have a hdd partition into 3 they are ntfs now for some reason i can only see 2 of them i cant see the other and i need to ass most of my exes,mp3's etc are on the partition
[21:17] <teemo> yeah
[21:17] <froschi> Dr_Willis: yes. it's "searching plugin packages", then "no packages [...] found" "the requested plugins are: DVD source"
[21:17] <Akkernight> it says "No root file system is defined."
[21:17] <_hexguy> teemo: now do sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko
[21:17] <froschi> Dr_Willis: this is a fresh 10.4 install
[21:18] <teemo> ok
[21:18] <_hexguy> teemo: done?
[21:19] <teemo> yeah
[21:19] <_hexguy> teemo: should me loaded then
[21:19] <_hexguy> teemo: should be* loaded then
[21:19] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:22] <_hexguy> teemo: any luck?
[21:23] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> froschi:  you may need the multiverse repo enabled. I use vlc or mplayer for my dvd needs
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> navid:  just a guess - the gpg or whatever keys are not installed properly. or you got some extra unoffical repos/ppa's enabled with out the keys
[21:24] <teemo> _hexguy: thank you very much man
[21:24] <teemo> may i ask u a question?
[21:24] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[21:24] <_hexguy> teemo: tell me
[21:25] <teemo> how did u figure out the last step?
[21:25] <teemo> the missing step?
[21:25] <navid> Dr_Willis: unchecked all reposes but still the same
[21:25] <Bluh> Hello everyone, I just got Ubuntu installed and really the only things I have done is to use the update manger and to install a driver for my wireless, is there anything else I should do?
[21:25] <teemo> its nowhere in the instructions
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> Bluh:  anything else you shold do - to do what?
[21:26] <froschi> Dr_Willis: yeah, something like that. i'd use vlc, only the sound is choppy for no obvous reason :/ ... and mplayer, i don't know why synaptic wouldn't find it.... trying again
[21:26] <_hexguy> teemo: you mean the sudo insmod? it says it there, just that instead of using sbin/insmod i used insmod
[21:26] <lcuk>  bluenjoy the awesomeness
[21:26] <lcuk> Bluh, ^
[21:26] <ManDay> First question: Is it normal that X reverts to low graphics mode and has display errors and low res if some additional input devices (3d mouse, tablet) which are specified in the xorg.conf are not plugged in?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> froschi:  i tend to use 'smplayer' these days. or the latest vlc from the ppa's
[21:26] <ManDay> sorry
[21:26] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:27] <FloodBot2> ManDay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <^Jay2^> how to rename all files with zip to cbr
[21:28] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: if all the zip files are in the same folder ... --> rename 's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> I just removed a PPA, and I was wondering whither there was an easy way to downgrade all packages to the one in the repositories. Thanks!
[21:28] <teemo> well thank you very much, again, i am now connected wirelessly thanks 2 you
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  theres a program out called 'ppapurge' but ivbe never used it
[21:28] <BluesKaj> jayne, why rename , just use unp to open them
[21:28] <teemo> my first day on linux
[21:28] <BluesKaj> oops , I mean jay2
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: is there some apt-get command?
[21:29] <^Jay2^> erUSUL: is it ok for you to explain the command? in windows all i do is rename *.zip *.cbr
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  theres the rename command, or use some other bulk renamer tools that are in the repos.
[21:29] <teemo> now to figure out how to get audio working on skype :)
[21:29] <_hexguy> teemo: welcome ^^
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  not that ive ever seen
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: ok thanks.
[21:29] <BluesKaj> ^Jay2^, use unp to open them , no need to rename
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  thus the need for that 'ppapurge' tool
[21:29] <Bluh> Dr_Willis: Well what I mean is should I go find a firewall, do other updates that I don't know about, etc.
[21:29] <^Jay2^> BluesKaj: unp?
[21:29] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: just replaces .zip for .cbr in all the filenames
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Bluh
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> i would sart with reading that manual Bluh , and doing a update/upgrade of the system to be sure its up to date
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !unp | ^Jay2^
[21:30] <erUSUL> !info unp
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: problem is, i already removed the ppa. i'm just left with the packages. doesn't seem like ppa-purge will help now... guess I'll have to do it by hand...
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !info unp | ^Jay2^
[21:31] <^Jay2^> ummm
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  go read about ppapurge.. i think thats how its designed to work
[21:31] <^Jay2^> im happy how the cbr works
[21:31] <^Jay2^> but cant understand this rename 's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip
[21:31] <^Jay2^> what does  's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip this means
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  regular expressions 101.   'replace zip with cbr' globally
[21:32] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: you call do the same with only the shell and mv « for file in *.zip; do mv -- "$file" "${file%.zip}".cbr ; done »
[21:32] <^Jay2^> now am more confused lol
[21:32] <^Jay2^> i need to read the manual for rename
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  time to go read up and learn regular expressions also...  :) they are a POWERFULL tool used by many commands and programs
[21:33] <^Jay2^> Dr_Willis: any link for that regular expressions
[21:33] <Svendbenno> Hi. Can somebody tell me, how i modify the "places"-menu/dock?
[21:33] <hiexpo> nice guys finish last
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  that same   's/\.zip/\.cbr/g'    will also do the same replacement in VI and other editors.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> !regrexp
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  id have to say hit google for some tutorials. I bought a book on the topic ages ago. :)
[21:34] <cablop> well, my oirc crashed so i lost the answer
[21:34] <cablop> mmm
[21:34] <cablop> i ansked if reiserfs lost support after... well, you know...
[21:35] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: the *.zip is there so the command applies to all the zip files in the current dir. s/word/replace/g does just that replace any word you find with the replace. you want to replace .zip with .cbr . you have to put the \ becouse th . is a special char in regex
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  you dont hear about it as much as you used to.. BTRFS is the big 'next thing' :)
[21:35] <Zelozelos> can someone tell me how to get  libgettextlib-0.18.1.so??
[21:36] <^Jay2^> erUSUL: am slowly getting it. but what is regex
[21:36] <^Jay2^> !regex
[21:37] <monkey_dust> ^Jay2^, check Full Circle Issue 21 for formatting output => http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/full_circle_overview.html
[21:37] <^Jay2^> does \ means * in windows? a wildcard?
[21:37] <gfather> hello guys
[21:37] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
[21:37] <crux000> Question for the room: anyone know why the @#$#@$#@$#@$#@ booting off a 10.04 usb (created with usb-creator) would randomly decide to use one of the drives in the system as SWAP???????
[21:38] <blitzo> gfather ur back, u'll be a regular b4 long
[21:38] <gfather> after doing full format and using entire disk , some old applications still exist , so whats the trik here
[21:38] <gfather> blitzo: :D
[21:38] <blitzo> cux000 that is bizarre, what happened?
[21:39] <vlt_mob> Hello. How can I szart vlc from cli and tell it not to use pulse but alsa directly instead?
[21:39] <cablop> dr_|willbtrf never heard about it
[21:39] <blitzo> crux000 that is bizarre what happened
[21:39] <_hexguy> crux000: omg
[21:39] <crux000> blitzo: short version is it completely shat upon the raid array I was trying to back up
[21:39] <gfather> blitzo: i have a windows , i have a mac, but i dont why i i just love ubuntu , there is something that always make me comes back for ubuntu
[21:40] <crux000> blitzo: sequence of events was to boot from USB, then installed mdadm to get the array up. Then mdadm started giving errors that indicated one of the drives was in use.... cue a but of fuser & cat /proc/swap, then much cursing
[21:40] <blitzo> crux000 i have no answers but i am interested in the question
[21:41] <crux000> s/bit/but
[21:41] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[21:43] <crux000> The partition that 10.04 decided to use as swap was marked as linux-raid-autodetect in its partition table
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> bullgard4:  sudo chown root.root /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6  is one way
[21:44] <blitzo> crux000 then i will avoid usb-creator until i figure out how it works - thx for heads up
[21:45] <blitzo> crux000 sorry i can't help
[21:45] <crux000> blitzo: It may well be an issue with the livecd code, too....
[21:45] <crux000> <--- trying to decide just how much profanity to include in the bug report
[21:45] <blitzo> crux000 the livecd doesn't arbitraily use partitions for swap, in fact it doesn't use any swap...
[21:45] <gfather> so any one know why after "Use the entire disk."  step , applications still exist ?
[21:46] <crux000> blitzo: No kidding. ;) That's why I was using it. (Well that and the machine isn't booting.)
[21:46] <Oer> what applications, gfather ?
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  in some cases a ssytem needs to be rebooted to see partion changes to a hard drive.
[21:47] <gfather> Oer: applications from previews installation
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  that was common ages past. not so common these days
[21:47] <gfather> Dr_Willis: after doing a new ubuntu install and using the entire disk step , ??
[21:47] <bullgard4> Dr_Willis: Yes indeed. --  Thank you.
[21:47] <Oer> so name one application gfather ?
[21:48] <gfather> tvheadend
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  ive seen where if you reparittion a disk, fdisk will print a message about how the old disk table layout is still in use..   but thats not so common these4 days.. when in doubt.. try a reboot. or just delete all the partitions and then reboot. and make them  after you reboot/restart the installer
[21:49] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: fyi, ppa-purge only works if you currently have the ppa in your repo list. otherwise you have to do it all by hand. thanks for the tip though. i will be sure to use that next time.
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  we are still not really clear on what you are 'seeing' thatz staying around.
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  so re add the ppa :)
[21:50] <gfather> Dr_Willis: application called tvheadend
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  i also saw a 'ppasearch' tool the other day it seasrches the listingof all ppa's for programs/packages
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: :/ didn't think of that!
[21:51] <Oer> gfather, tvheadend is a part of xbmc ?
[21:51] <Rolotony> Hello
[21:51] <gfather> Oer: no , but it you install it as an addon
[21:52] <Rolotony> I'm trying to Compile irss from source and I'm having problems geting perl to link the libraries
[21:53] <crux000> blitzo, or anyone: Where do I go on launchpad.net to place my profanity-filled bug report?
[21:53] <rocker2344> i always hate doing this, as soon as i join i ask for help but....
[21:53] <rocker2344> non of my comps can see my harddrive
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  You are saying You booted to the live cd.. installed somthing.. and are now installing to the HD? or what exactly?
[21:53] <crux000> rocker2344: is the webcam plugged in? (/smartass answer)
[21:53] <rocker2344> well i kinda, it just cant format it or access it
[21:54] <rocker2344> and crux000 very funny
[21:54] <gfather> Dr_Willis: no , i installed ubuntu , then compiled tvheadend on it
[21:54] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, inboard or outboard ?
[21:54] <bp0> I can't mount a floppy disk in ubuntu, whats the problem?
[21:54] <rocker2344> external over usb
[21:54] <crux000> rocker2344: when you say 'see'... as in show up in the Computer, or not at all (e.g. no /dev entry, if you know what that means?)
[21:55] <rocker2344> gparted does not see it
[21:55] <rocker2344> natulius does not see it
[21:55] <gfather> Dr_Willis then reinstalled ubuntu with using the entire disk step , and tvheadend is still there
[21:55] <extremist> rocker2344: Are all your comps running Ubuntu?
[21:55] <rocker2344> but running dd writes stuff to it
[21:55] <crux000> what does it show up as in dmesg when you plug it in?
[21:55] <rocker2344> most, cant  get parents to switch
[21:55] <Oer> gfather, so you wonder why tvheadend show up, after compiling it ?
[21:55] <urlwallace> my system completely crashed (ubuntu amd 64bit) error msg "could not access root to start files"  "kernal panic"  . I want to learn from this, any idea how this happens?
[21:55] <rocker2344> i tried useing windows, it does not see it. even mac
[21:56] <erUSUL> rocker2344: the disk died ?. check dmesg « dmesg | grep -E '(ata|sd)' | less »
[21:56] <urlwallace> I did full reinstall
[21:56] <gfather> Oer: no, why its showing up , after reinstalling ubuntu and formatting the hd
[21:56] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, what file system is it , ntfs ...?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  You kept your home dir?/settings ?
[21:56] <extremist> rocker2344: From what you describe it sounds like the disk is failing/ed.
[21:57] <urlwallace> gfather , the crash gave me the message when I tried to boot, it would not so I reinstalled
[21:57] <gfather> Dr_Willis: what do you mean by that
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  did you keep your home direcotry/ and setting files and restored them? where is this program 'at' on the system also.
[21:57] <urlwallace> I could not access anything
[21:57] <gfather> Dr_Willis: no i didnt restore anything
[21:58] <rocker2344> i will runn that command, forgive me if my responces are few and far between
[21:58] <urlwallace> I apologize 2 threads going at once
[21:58] <rocker2344> i am no where near home
[21:58] <rocker2344> XD ssh ftw
[21:59] <Oer> gfather, then 'sudo fdisk -l ' should give the answer, would you post it at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[21:59] <gfather> yeah sure
[22:00] <Oer> maybe entire disk is not succeed
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> or its somehow using his old /home
[22:00] <rocker2344> it was ntfs
[22:00] <rocker2344> idk what it is now crux000
[22:00] <xomp> hello, how can I determine the largest file on ubuntu via the console?
[22:00] <Oer> yes Dr_Willis but then he would know this
[22:01] <crux000> rocker2344: I wasn't paying attention to the channel.... did you paste in what dmesg had to say?
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> Oer:  im not sure  hes just just did some mistake really. :) but its hard to tell
[22:02] <gfather> Oer: Dr_Willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/465616/
[22:02] <rocker2344> crux000: not yet
[22:03] <rocker2344> it putout a lot of info
[22:03] <rocker2344> i mught get flood kicked
[22:03] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer in any case , i want to reformat and just make sure that nothing left from any previous versions
[22:03] <rocker2344> >_<
[22:03] <crux000> rocker: use pastebin
[22:03] <rocker2344> ok
[22:03] <Oer> gfather fdisk is oke
[22:03] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:04] <rocker2344> http://pastebin.com/UFLWaaFe
[22:04] <rocker2344> there u go crux000
[22:04] <gfather> Oer: any how to make sure after formatting nothing will be left
[22:04] <Oer> gfather, when you enter the part: partitioning, manually delete all partitions, confirm it to write to disk, then go back to partitioning
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  then do so. :) use fdisk. delete all parittions.. reboot - let theinstaller do it
[22:04] <crux000> rocker2344: what's "fdisk -l /dev/sda" say?
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  be sure to 'apply changes' or 'write changes' when doing partitioning of disks
[22:05] <crux000> (needs a 'sudo', btw)
[22:05] <rocker2344> crux000: sda is my main harddrive
[22:05] <rocker2344> my external has issues
[22:06] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer , can i use xp cd to formate to ntfs , restart , then put ubuntu back and let it use intire disk , this way i make sure nothing will be left ? :)
[22:06] <rocker2344> so sdb?
[22:06] <crux000> rocker2344: whoops, was reading too quick.
[22:06] <thune3> xomp: you can use find to show files larger than a specified size, which could get you what you want (ignnroe sys dev kcore): find / -size +100M -printf "%-12s %p\n" 2>/dev/null
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  why are you bothering with NTFS at all?
[22:06] <crux000> rocker2344: try 'dmesg | tail -f' then unplug & re-add the usb drive -- does anything get printed out when you plug it in?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  delete teh partitions, restart the installer.
[22:07] <gfather> Dr_Willis: ok then
[22:07] <rocker2344> crux000: http://pastebin.com/GDRNLNj8
[22:07] <Oer> :-)
[22:07] <rocker2344> that is the fdksi command
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  mkfs.ext3 the things now if you wanted to...
[22:07] <rocker2344> i am not home atm
[22:08] <crux000> rocker2344: your dmesg didn't contain any mentions of finding sdb, so you're probably just looking at an empty file / disconnected device node? with fdisk... (quickly leaving stuff I'm comfortable with)
[22:09] <rocker2344> but nothing sees this harddrive. windows nor nix systems
[22:09] <crux000> rocker2344: it's as if its power cable was disconnected :)
[22:09] <rocker2344> it has power
[22:10] <rocker2344> trust me, will be home soon
[22:10] <happyface> how do I find my nvidia card's vendor ID?
[22:10] <crux000> rocker2344: there's "seeing" and then there's seeing: even a fairly corrupt drive will usually get picked up one way or another in the kernel messages when it's plugged in
[22:10] <crux000> mind doing a pastebin of the full dmesg (no grepping)?
[22:10] <rocker2344> ok what is the command again?
[22:10] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer , thanks allot for the help , ill try to sleep today get some rest , yesterday only slept for 3 hours, and start testing tomorrow and see how it goes, hope every thing will be fine, thanks again :D
[22:10] <crux000> rocker: dmesg
[22:11] <gfather> have a good night
[22:11] <crux000> you can do "sudo dmesg > /home/rocker2344/Desktop/dmesg.txt" if you want
[22:11] <Oer> gfather have fun :-)
[22:11] <rocker2344> wow so much crap that i cant copy it
[22:11] <gfather> :)
[22:12] <rocker2344> oh
[22:12] <crux000> rocker: I gave you a command (you'll have to edit in your username) that puts it all into a file on your desktop
[22:13] <edju> installed songbird (yes, yes, i know) and runs fine except it won't play any shoutcast streams.  any advice appreciated.
[22:14] <BluesKaj> edju, vlc will play shoutcast
[22:15] <rocker2344> crux000: just got home, the harddrive is connected to usb and power and the write protect switch is off
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !info tunapie
[22:15] <ROMEO_> guys need help a shorcut isnt showing to one of my drives so i have to add a command then go to mnt anyway to add shortcut to computer?
[22:15] <crux000> rocker2344: unplug it from the computer, run "dmesg | tail -f", then plug it in. Any *new* lines that happened at the same time you plug it in?
[22:16] <rocker2344> one sec this comp is not a gui desktop it runs the server edition
[22:16] <Jordan_U> crux000: dmesg | tail -f won't work as you are thinking it will.
[22:16] <crux000> Jordan_U: drat
[22:16] <ManDay> !fonts
[22:16] <crux000> Jordan_U: what I get for going off the top of my head
[22:17] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:17] <jhamlsaidhfodsj> how do I set gnome to switch workspaces when a window edge crosses over?
[22:17] <slinkeey> Hello
[22:18] <crux000> rocker2344: I was wrong with the dmesg... "tail -f /var/log/messages" should give what you want, though.
[22:18] <rocker2344> ok i will try that and here is the command sudo dmesg > http://pastebin.com/2cFAZFEz
[22:19] <purvesh> which is the wiki.ubuntu.com irc channel ?
[22:19] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to check NTFS partitions for errors? fsck returns an error about fsck.ntfs-3g not being found
[22:19] <Jordan_U> An_Ony_Moose: Unfortunately no.
[22:19] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:20] <capon> hi all! I need some help if somebody can help me  http://textbin.com/y1125
[22:20] <An_Ony_Moose> Jordan_U, would running chkdisk in wine make sense?
[22:20] <rocker2344> with the tail command i got this to pop up crux000
[22:21] <Jordan_U> An_Ony_Moose: No.
[22:21] <rocker2344> Jul 18 17:20:37 home-server kernel: [ 6485.248203] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[22:21] <rocker2344> Jul 18 17:20:37 home-server kernel: [ 6485.381461] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[22:21] <crux000> rocker2344: was that it? ... try with a known good USB storage device (another drive, or a thumbdrive) and you should see more.
[22:22] <rocker2344> ok
[22:22] <rocker2344> yeah thoese 2 lines where it. i put a thumbdrive in and it gave me more than the harddrive
[22:23] <crux000> rocker2344: there's usually some entries about recognizing a mass storage device and assigning it to /dev/sdb (or sdc, etc)
[22:23] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:23] <crux000> I'm guessing there's something badly wrong with the drive or with the enclosure
[22:23] <rocker2344> the usb thumb drive was put to sdb
[22:24] <rocker2344> but the external harddrive did nothing
[22:24] <rocker2344> other than notice that it was connected
[22:24] <crux000> rocker2344: Yup. Hence.... I'm guessing there's something busted with it.
[22:24] <rocker2344> so just get a new harddrive?
[22:24] <trevor_> is there a way to format drives like there is in windows?
[22:24] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:25] <rocker2344> unless i want to mess with the hd hardware XD
[22:25] <crux000> rocker2344: if the stuff on there is super important you can try moving it to a different enclosure to make sure it's the drive that's dead (and not the USB case around it)
[22:25] <Kangarooo> how to reset mixer? i think ist alsa mixer.. just installed and made wrong configuration for sound
[22:25] <rocker2344> the external has e-sata
[22:25] <rocker2344> but the only comp that had that is now dead
[22:25] <rocker2344> the mobo fried
[22:25] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, if 2 different OSs don't "see" the drive , it's most likely become corrupted and inaccessible either software-wise or physically broken
[22:26] <rocker2344> ok
[22:26] <crux000> BluesKaj: I'm guessing physically broken, either the drive itself or the enclosure.... rocker2344: if you have a system with SATA on the inside, it's the same thing as eSATA
[22:26] <crux000> (if you wanted to crack a case and hook it up)
[22:26] <crux000> (just to rule it out)
[22:26] <LordVorp_> so I got me a nice nVidia card, and I got the proprietary drivers installed painlessly.  However, watching youtube videos in fullscreen is still, well, pathetic.  What should I check or try?
[22:26] <rocker2344> only 1 desktop in my house
[22:26] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:26] <rocker2344> the rest are laptops
[22:27] <rocker2344> none of the laptops have an easyly accesable sata or esata
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: bummer
[22:27] <rocker2344> i know
[22:27] <rocker2344> damn modern cases
[22:27] <rocker2344> with no screws
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: USB enclosures are cheap;
[22:27] <rabbit_> hi
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: also cheap are PCMCIA eSATA adapters for laptops
[22:27] <rocker2344> well the tb is built like an apple device
[22:27] <rocker2344> no screws all metal
[22:28] <rocker2344> idk how i am able to take it apart
[22:28] <cablop> wow
[22:28] <cablop> that btrfs sounds so nice
[22:28] <cablop> but
[22:28] <cablop> do anybody know a tagged filesystem?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> slinkeey: You don't actually have a default gateway.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> crux000, yeah opening the case if one is careful can sometimes show a problem, some of these drives can become detached and if slid back into place will work again
[22:28] <rocker2344> well thanks for the help
[22:28] <rocker2344> i will idle
[22:29] <crux000> BluesKaj: I'm aware of it. ;) Dealing with corruption caused by a bad caddy in a raid system right now.
[22:29] <rabbit_> i accidentally removed my internet icon from the panel, I right click and add to get it back, but where is it?
[22:29] <rabbit_> what's it called?
[22:29] <rabbit_> the little wireless or whatever icon
[22:29] <crux000> (said corruption made MUCH worse by a thumbdrive boot deciding to use one of the drives for swap. :( )
[22:29]  * BluesKaj nods at crux000
[22:29] <cablop> crux000:  damn!
[22:30] <spiky_> rabbit_: add notification area
[22:30] <erUSUL> rabbit_: alt + f2 run nm-applet
[22:30] <crux000> cablop: I'm writing up an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>right now.
[22:30] <crux000> Trying to avoid profanity is difficult.
[22:30] <cablop> what was your bug?
[22:30] <cablop> just to avoid it
[22:31] <cablop> crux000: ?
[22:31] <crux000> cablop: Booted 10.04 off a usb stick (used usb-creator to get it there) ... installed mdadm, tried to get the array back up... got file in use errors on /dev/sde2..... ran fuser, saw that somehow the kernel was using it for swap.
[22:31] <kimf> What is the best UPnP server at the moment? Still mediatomb? Or something else that is faster/better?
[22:31] <BluesKaj> rabbit_,look in applications for network manager right click add to panel
[22:31] <rabbit_> spiky: thanks that's it! :) :x
[22:31] <crux000> cablop: NO idea what the bug is (uuid collision?) ... but it was a very very very shitty thing to uncover
[22:31] <cablop> damn
[22:32] <cablop> i got used to revert the grub and many other things to the old way
[22:32] <crux000> thankfully I'd only been using the system for like 10 min ... there's still a filesystem there; we'll see how much I can dump off.
[22:32] <cablop> maybe you was using some filesytem similar to one of solaris
[22:32] <cablop> i heard solaris and linux confuse swap partitions due to... to something i didn't read that time
[22:32] <crux000> cablop: All the partitions were marked with FS linux-raid-autodetect
[22:33] <cablop> well... now i'm unsure on using raid in my system...
[22:33] <crux000> (inside the raid array was an LVM setup; then inside that was XFS, which I guess was the hot thing when I built this a few years ago?)
[22:33] <red2kic> kimf: I find uShare working just fine.
[22:33] <crux000> cablop: I'm pretty sure the fault lies with the liveCD or the translation into a live-thumbdrive.
[22:34] <demonspork> yo crossie
[22:34] <Cross2four> Hi demonspork
[22:34] <slow-motion> n8
[22:35] <kimf> red2kic: Thanks, i'll take a look :)
[22:37] <rocker2344> crux000: it was a hardware issue. the connections inside eroeded ayaw but i might be able to resoder tmem
[22:37] <rocker2344> them*
[22:38] <crux000> rocker2344: good luck :) you may also be able to move the drive to a different case
[22:38] <crux000> (assuming the "connections" were in the USB enclosure part and not the HDD itself)
[22:38] <io> I think the answer is "no" but I had a OpenPGP key on a desktop that cored and had to have a fresh installation. Is there any way to recover that OpenPGP key? (It cored shortly after I created the OpenPGP key so did not have time to fetch a local copy).
[22:39] <rocker2344> true
[22:43] <teemo> how do i logout and log back in again?
[22:44] <illac> lol guess teemo figured it out :D
[22:45] <teemo> did i miss something?
[22:45] <ubuntu-usr> hi
[22:46] <teemo> did someone answer how to logout and in?
[22:46] <lcuk> you solved it yourself didnt you?
[22:46] <illac> teemo: nah, it looked like you quit, so I assumed you'd figured it out
[22:46] <teemo> no
[22:46] <lcuk> teemo, we were concerned you would make it back ok
[22:46] <teemo> i hope its not something very obvious
[22:47] <lcuk> bottom right in ubuntu has a power button and username
[22:47] <ubuntu-usr> i haven't grub file at /etc/default/. where i should take a look for it in another location?
[22:47] <teemo> darn
[22:47] <lcuk> or just press power button on pc
[22:47] <teemo> its obvious
[22:47] <lcuk> only to rocket scientists - you are safe
[22:47] <[thor]> agreed, i am a rocket surgeon, and it slipped by me.
[22:48] <illac> teemo: gnome-session-save --logout <-- try that?
[22:48] <crux000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607006 <--- finally got this filed.
[22:48] <crux000> Now off to eat something and perhaps drink a beer or ten
[22:49] <crux000> cheers folks
[22:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Do you have the grub-pc package installed? What version of Ubuntu are you using and is it an upgrade from an earlier version or a fresh install?
[22:49] <teemo> is there a shortcut for the terminal?
[22:49] <Alazare> anyone have an idea why i cant connect to any hubs in ldcPP
[22:50] <lcuk> teemo, you oculd just not login to graphical desktop
[22:50] <lcuk> thats about as shortcuty as it can be
[22:51] <cryptk> is there a way to find all packages installed after a certain date and time
[22:51] <LukeL> teemo it's in accessories
[22:52] <teemo> i meant a keyboard shortcut
[22:54] <LukeL> not by default i don't believe, but gnome let's you assign keyboard shortcuts to commands, or you can do alt-f2: gnome-terminal
[22:55] <Oer> ctrl alt T
[22:55] <robertzaccour> can it hurt video quality to watch it in the middle of rendering?
[22:56] <teemo> ctrl + alt + t works right out of the box, thank you Oer
[22:58] <Oer> robertzaccour, no, you take time from your CPU, so a renderjob with lower priority, needs more time
[22:58] <wanderingi> i have switched from a windows pc to running ubuntu. i used to use itunes and kept all my music on a networked hard drive, is there any easy way of me being able to list all files that are on the drive that are locked to itunes so that i can get replacements?
[22:59] <robertzaccour> Oer: what i'm asking is it ok to check the video in the middle of rendering or could that possibly hurt the quality by interrupting something
[23:00] <Oer> robertzaccour, no, i don't think so, ubuntu is multitasking
[23:00] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U i don't remember exactly how long i have my ubuntu but i'm certain when i installed my ubuntu grub was in 1.0. Now i have 10.04. terminal refuses to install grub-pc because another packages are broken
[23:01] <tensorpudding> qemu does not handle gnome's keybinding changes well at all
[23:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Well whatever else is happening you should fix your broken packages. Try "sudo apt-get -f install".
[23:01] <cryptk> is there a way to find all packages installed after a certain date and time? I have looked through the man pages with no luck
[23:01] <cablop>  wanderingi not sure if aTunes or amarok could do that trick
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  not that ive ever heard/seen of.
[23:02] <tensorpudding> in particular it sends caps lock even when caps lock is rebound to control by gnome
[23:02] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, what now?
[23:02] <cablop> cryptk: i think if apt system use a database for that you can check for apt docs
[23:02] <erUSUL> cryptk: Synaptic has a history where it lists packages installed by date ...
[23:02] <Oer> cryptk yes, synaptic > file > history
[23:02] <Oer> jaja
[23:02] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i repaired them
[23:03] <thewanderer1> hi, I'm having a problem with update-motd being called by `login`... what makes `login` issue `run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/` ?
[23:03] <cablop> cryptk: anyway... i think it's hard to accomplish that, maybe try to see if apt keeps a log or if you can sort installed packages by date in synaptic
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  if you have a file in your home called '.hushlogin' it may not do that. :) it makes teh login messages all.. very quite
[23:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: If you installed when grub legacy was still the default then you will still be using grub legacy even after upgrading to 10.04. If you want to upgrade to grub2 (which I personally recommend), then install the grub-pc package. If you don't want to upgrade to grub2 then you'll need to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst for options rather than /etc/default/grub.
[23:04] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, I don't have .hushlogin
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  make one...  thats why i said 'if you have...' :)
[23:05] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, but what makes login call update-motd? update-motd is not even installed on my system! O.o
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  no idea. ive never ntiocied it calling that.
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> i rarely see any messages when i login
[23:05] <thewanderer1> it just refers to /etc files, and /etc files are scripts which call non-existent binaries
[23:06] <thewanderer1> I'm feeling uncomfortable with it
[23:06] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, but grub2 seems too messy for me
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  you doing some major changes to your system or somthing else unusual? Ther are login replacements i recall.
[23:07] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, no, I just noticed login behaving strange, calling a binary I didn't expect it to
[23:08] <thewanderer1> not a mention of it in the changelog
[23:08] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: man update-motd
[23:08] <Ayla> hello
[23:09] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, not installed on my system
[23:09] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, how to remove old kernels and other stuff?
[23:09] <thewanderer1> I don't have that package but login refers to it, that's what bothers me
[23:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Remove the old packages.
[23:09] <brandon__> anyone good with conky
[23:09] <brandon__> or use howlong.pl before
[23:10] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: Have you actually tried running "man update-motd"?
[23:10] <thewanderer1> yes
[23:10] <Deven> Hi group
[23:10] <thewanderer1> no such manpage
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> conky has some very good docs/examples... never heard of howlong.pl
[23:10] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i do not know what packages
[23:10] <massmc1> brandon__: crunchbox forums have a really good post about conky conf and themes
[23:10] <thewanderer1> dpkg -l shows: No packages found matching update-motd.
[23:10] <brandon__> was hoping to talk to someone in real time not leave a post
[23:10] <brandon__> but thanks
[23:11] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: It should be provided by libpam-modules, which I am surprised you don't have installed.
[23:11] <Deven> hi
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> locate update-motd
[23:11] <Deven> any body is there
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !locate update-motd
[23:11] <Deven> where am i?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I dont seem to have update-motd either
[23:11] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, just looking at libpam-modules source, not a mention about update-motd... strange
[23:11] <erUSUL> Deven: matrix
[23:11] <Deven> ok
[23:11] <erUSUL> !hi | Deven
[23:11] <thewanderer1> I did an strace on login and it calls `sh -c run-parts /etc/....`
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !find  update-motd
[23:12] <Deven> hi
[23:12] <Deven> ubottu
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> !info  update-motd
[23:12] <Deven> thanks to all
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: It's a framework, not a command. "man update-motd" explains it well.
[23:12] <Deven> i am in backtrack
[23:12] <Deven> chatting room
[23:12] <erUSUL> Deven: then you should move to #backtrack-linux
[23:13] <thewanderer1> what is the source package for libpam-modules?
[23:13] <Deven> i dont know how
[23:13] <Deven> plz help me
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> I do have the man page for update-motd :)
[23:13] <erUSUL> Deven: /join #backtrack-linux
[23:13] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: pam
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> people useing backtrack.. often seem to be people that shouldent be using backtrack.. :)
[23:14] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, so if I do apt-get source libpam-modules, I get pam source?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: Yes.
[23:14] <thewanderer1> okay, gonna see it
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  type /join #backtrack-linux     and it should join that channel
[23:14] <thewanderer1> where are the PAM libs?
[23:14] <cablop> how can i make dpkg install dependencies of a deb?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  i found that 'gedbi' does that for me.
[23:14] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: but desire to be the type of people that should be using backtrack ... they think the tools makes the master
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  sudo gdebi foo.deb
[23:14] <cablop> thanks
[23:15] <cablop> i was trying to use dpkg...
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  i just sort of discovered taht one day :)
[23:15] <cablop> welll, it's a long time for me not using ubuntu for a long time
[23:15] <cablop> 2 years
[23:15] <cablop> well, i was using, but oin a very basic way
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> BasicBuntu
[23:15] <cablop> what is used nowadays in linux to write chinese?
[23:15] <thewanderer1> found the call in: /debian/patches-applied/update-motd
[23:15] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Dr_Willis cablop
[23:16] <cyborgsmurf> I have trouble typing text into a flashbox in browser (Ubuntu 9.10)
[23:16] <cablop> well, i just setted a ubuntu inside a vm and used itto commit svn things :P
[23:16] <cablop> nopthing else, haha
[23:16] <trism> cablop: in ubuntu ibus is the default now
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:   so? gdebi when called like i showed it.. does NOT use a gui. :P
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Interesting.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if it does when using gksudo.. i never noticed.
[23:16] <cablop> i got used to say
[23:17] <cablop> sudo -b gedit for example
[23:17] <trism> gdebi-gtk is the gui version
[23:17] <cyborgsmurf> can someone help me with this problem?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> there we go. :) +1 for trism
[23:17] <cablop> i disliked the concept of a gksudo some times, maybe nowadays it's a better way to do things
[23:17] <intx> how do i compile a kernel on stable?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  theres more to  the sudo system then what many people realize
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: cablop: The more traditional way is to either use apt-get from the beginning or "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[23:17] <thewanderer1> does anyone know how /etc/update-motd.d get created?
[23:17] <erUSUL> !kernel | intx
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  i alweays get 'scared' when doing the -f install method, :) it just seems  'wrong'
[23:18] <cyborgsmurf> Is there no one in here using Linux with flashproblems?
[23:18] <Deven> i wanna ask a question about backtraaaack plz help  me
[23:18] <cablop> Joryes, but i had the .deb in my system, not from the repos, a vbox not opensource, and wanted to install
[23:18] <cablop> then dpkg din't solved issues
[23:18] <cablop> i'll go the gdebi way
[23:18] <prince_jammys> Deven: join #backtrack-linux
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  they have their own support channel. You ahving problems gettting to it?
[23:18] <Deven> i dont how
[23:19] <cyborgsmurf> (maybe Im on the wrong channel)
[23:19] <Deven> hi
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  type in the text box where you are typing  this text and do that '/join #backtrack-linux' command
[23:19] <intx> erUSUL: thanks.. i followed that url in the link, but it fails on the actual compile
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Deven
[23:19] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: what problems?
[23:20] <cablop> afaik flash have issues with ANY operative system
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> flash is an issue. :)
[23:20] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: the keyboard input dosent respond when typing
[23:20] <cyborgsmurf> in flash
[23:20] <erUSUL> intx: how ?
[23:20] <cablop> let me try, do you have a link cyborgsmurf
[23:21] <cablop> a simple one
[23:21] <cyborgsmurf> www.sharedtalk.com for example
[23:21] <cablop> i need to type it by hand in my linux
[23:21] <thewanderer1> can anyone help me test a possibly broken feature of update-motd?
[23:22] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i can't install grub 2. terminal is blubbing somthing about unstable distro (?)  and somthing about incomming folder
[23:22] <roydude> hey folks
[23:22] <fearful> can anyone help me to run acpi=off on grub 1.98 loader?
[23:22] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: i'm on that page, now where to go?
[23:22] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: okay wait...
[23:22] <roydude> I can't seem to format my HD of ubuntu install complains my HD has too many cylinders :(  is there a way around this?
[23:22] <thewanderer1> help me debug update-motd: install update-notifier, remove it, then login on the console and tell me if you get any errors
[23:23] <cablop> fearful: just edit the line at booting, or do you need it by default?
[23:23] <erUSUL> fearful: edit /etc/default/grub add it like this "quiet splash acpi=off" ... then run « sudo update-grub »
[23:23] <ikonia> roydude: what tool are you using ?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: What is the exact error?
[23:23] <cablop> fearful if you need it to be used always then edit /etc/default/grub
[23:23] <roydude> ikonia: I'm assuming the ubuntu install process from live-cd uses gpared... looks like gparted.
[23:23] <fearful> cablop, erUSUL I need it always but I can't even logon to Ubuntu I'm only on the GRUB configuration
[23:23] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: I guess you have to register to use the "Chat"
[23:24] <ikonia> roydude: so what's the actual error you get ?
[23:24] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, sorry in polish language http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LPpVUxVJ
[23:24] <erUSUL> fearful: grub configuration ? or grub menu ?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> roydude: It uses it's own GUI + libparted (gparted is also included speparately)
[23:24] <roydude> ikonia: the disk has 121601 cylinders which is greater than the maximum of 65536
[23:24] <fearful> erUSUL, well grub menu but I can open the command prompt or configuration, I'm getting child_rip error when loading.
[23:24] <thewanderer1> ubuntu-usr, if you prepend LANG=C before your command, you get errors in English
[23:25] <thewanderer1> use that when asking for help
[23:25] <cablop> fearful: just bypass it at booting, when you boot you can press a key to edit the grub boot options, then edit and go, after that edit /etc/default/grub
[23:25] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: I had major problem with clicking on flash but I solved it somehow but since then I havent been able to write anything in flashbox or whatsoever
[23:25] <ikonia> roydude: how big is the disk ?
[23:25] <ikonia> roydude: is it a real physical disk or a virtual raid ?
[23:25] <roydude> ikonia: 1TB drive
[23:25] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Please try using the main Ubuntu repositories as it appears there is something wrong with the mirror you're using currently.
[23:25] <fearful> cablop, how do I bypass it at booting
[23:25] <cablop> cyborg, you're right i'll need a registration...
[23:25] <robertzaccour> i have a 64 bit system but its a 1.6GHz amd athalon with 3GB ram. should i really be running a 64 bit os on it?
[23:25] <roydude> ikonia 1TB physical disk
[23:26] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: is sharedtalk a good place? so i don't waste the registration, :P
[23:26] <dido13> #ubuntu-ma
[23:26] <thewanderer1> robertzaccour, it does not hurt and you help computing as a whole to develop into 64 bits
[23:26] <ikonia> roydude: I'm not %100 certain on this, but I remember someone was habing a problem with 1TB disks recently on kubuntu, and had to use the server install to partition it, it's to do with the partition table, (dos partition table) they needed GPT support which was only the in server kernel
[23:26] <Jordan_U> roydude: Can you post a screenshot of the actual error message?
[23:26] <cablop> fearful: i think you can press a key at some time at booting, maybe the esc key
[23:26] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | roydude
[23:27] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: the people there are usually nice, its mostly for learning languege. I would recommend it if you want to learn a languege, but it is not a must :)
[23:27] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, if it helps it is in english now http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/emQ8swir
[23:27] <fearful> cablop, after I have clicked the option to start with ubuntu?
[23:27] <robertzaccour> oh ok thanks
[23:27] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: well, i want to find a place to find korena or russian speakers... well. i gie it a try :)
[23:27] <roydude> Jordan_U:  there isn't much other info to gain besides what Ubuntu complains about when it tries to format the drives during install...
[23:27] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: brb, wait till i register
[23:27] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: then that is the perfect place I think :)
[23:28] <roydude> Jordan_U: the disk has 121601 cylinders which is greater than the maximum of 65536
[23:28] <dad3> hi
[23:28] <roydude> ikonia: you think it's a partion table issue that doesn't support bigger drives?
[23:28] <ikonia> roydude: it's dos partition table v's gpt
[23:28] <fearful> cablop, that didn't work.
[23:28] <ikonia> roydude: from memory, yes
[23:28] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, and how about sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[23:28] <Jordan_U> roydude: As I understand it C/H/S values are meaningless at this point, so that error doesn't make much sense to me.
[23:29] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, will work better?
[23:29] <cablop> roydude what is your problem?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: You run that after installing grub-pc (if you choose to try loading grub2 from grub-legacy before committing to grub2)
[23:29] <cablop> fearful, aww, i dunno, what else to do, afaik, grub gives you 5 seconds to enter the grub menu and edit
[23:30] <cablop> fearul, try safe mode, edit that file and then do sudo update-grub... i guess
[23:30] <cablop> fearful, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, it depends on your exact grub version
[23:30] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, then please help me tov fix my repo
[23:30] <roydude> Jordan_U: ikonia:  I've run into this before formatting a 1.5TB drive...  I forget exactly how I fixed it... I had to get a different version of gparted...  but I would think 10.04 would be on top of these things :)
[23:30] <roydude> I'll read up on partition tables
[23:30] <scottyg> how do i convert an avi into a wmv please?  i am a noob
[23:30] <fearful> cablop, so edit the file /etc/default/grub and add acpi=off?
[23:31] <cablop> in the default linux something fearful
[23:31] <ikonia> roydude: try the sever install disk. I think that has gpt support built into the kernel
[23:31] <un214> I finally had it with grub2 and installed lilo
[23:31] <cablop> fearful: the sad part is i'm in a virtual linux now so can't access my file to see it
[23:31] <fearful> cablop, I can't run recovery mode either
[23:31] <Jordan_U> fearful: If you want to change the kernel parameters from the grub menu itself at boot press "e" to edit the menu entry.
[23:31] <scottyg> how do i convert an avi into a wmv please?  i am a noob
[23:31] <fearful> Jordan_U, ok, so do I just add acpi=off to there?
[23:31] <xuxc000> scottyg, What's noob?
[23:31] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: have you joined yet :)
[23:32] <scottyg> newbie
[23:32] <Rewt`> scott : ffmpeg
[23:32] <cablop> doing it, cyborgsmurf
[23:32] <scottyg> cool ill try ffmpeg!!!
[23:32] <Jordan_U> fearful: Yes, after "quiet splash" (and on the same line). Then press ctrl+x to boot the modified entry.
[23:32] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: not ready to allow registrations now :(
[23:33] <Rewt`> can someone link me the url for cesktop iso please
[23:33] <scottyg> i have ff mpeg please tell me how to access it!
[23:33] <fearful> Jordan_U, and this will stay like this always?
[23:33] <erUSUL> scottyg: is a command line program
[23:33] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: say whaat! hmmm... well bookmark the page at least... Whats up with that anyway?
[23:33] <erUSUL> scottyg: install winff if tyou want a gui to it
[23:33] <scottyg> what is the syntax to convert a avi to a wmv?
[23:33] <scottyg> ohhh ok!
[23:33] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: well, i'll try to save that bookmark, hehe don't know how to test flash then...
[23:33] <Jordan_U> fearful: No, once you're booted you'll need to make it permanent by editing /etc/default/grub and running "update-grub" as explained before.
[23:34] <roydude> ikonia: gpt is supported in 10.04 desktop edition...  I'm trying a format in gparted now...
[23:34] <erUSUL> scottyg: ffmpg -i file.wmv file.avi
[23:34] <fearful> Jordan_U, thank you so much also cablop and erUSUL  worked like a charm just have to edit it once booted.
[23:34] <roydude> ikonia: seems to be going through... perhaps I can avoid the format process altogether during ubuntu install
[23:34] <Jordan_U> fearful: You're welcome.
[23:34] <cablop> fearful: nice :)
[23:34] <ikonia> roydude: how do you know it's supported, I thought it wasn't
[23:35] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: darn... finally when someone could give me help THIS has to happen... I thank you for your help
[23:35] <Kyngdom> wow getting ps3 media server to decode x264 on ubuntu server is a PITA
[23:35] <cyborgsmurf> :)
[23:35] <twins_> hey
[23:35] <erUSUL> fearful: no problem
[23:35] <Jordan_U> ikonia: gpt is definitely supported in 10.04.
[23:35] <roydude> ikonia: cause I selected it in the drop down list of table types :)
[23:35] <ikonia> Jordan_U: I know it's in the kernel, wasn't sure about the actual installer
[23:35] <roydude> ikonia: I had an HD in the process of failing today... it was the OS disk :(
[23:35] <ikonia> roydude: ahh perfect, lets see how that works
[23:36] <roydude> ikonia: I'm not using the installer :)  using gparted
[23:36] <ikonia> roydude: ahh
[23:36] <Jordan_U> ikonia: If you have a > 4 TB disk it needs to use GPT, and the installer will setup gpt + a BIOS boot partition properly.
[23:37] <roydude> I'd like to know what the diffs are of these tables one day...  what are the advantages of each...
[23:37] <roydude> success, now to install :)
[23:37] <roydude> tx for the help guys
[23:37] <ikonia> cool
[23:37] <justin_> hey everyone, what's the best method to determine which partition is which when looking at gparted?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> roydude: msdos partition table format is ugly and has annoying limitations. The only advantage is backwards compatability.
[23:37] <orfix> Hi, i have a DKU-5 cable (nokia serial cable) and according to this link http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Cables i need the ti_usb_3410_5052 driver, someone told me that i need to grab my kernel source and enable that module through menuconfig, build it then insmod it, is this the normal way of doing it ? thanks.
[23:38] <fearful> Jordan_U, just add it after quiet splash again correct?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> fearful: Yes.
[23:38] <fearful> Thanks again Jordan_U
[23:38] <Jordan_U> fearful: You're welcome.
[23:39] <roydude> she's installing now :)
[23:39]  * roydude is a happy boy
[23:40] <roydude> tx once again Ikonia and Jordan_U
[23:44] <ThomasB2k> Has anyone ever figured out how to change the Skype icon in the notification area?
[23:45] <thewanderer1> ThomasB2k, you basically replace the stock Skype icon with your own
[23:45] <ThomasB2k> There isn't one
[23:45] <ThomasB2k> for the notification area icon
[23:45] <justin_> anyone have a good method to figure out which partition your curren ubuntu is on?  I have 4 partitions on my hd, 1 for windows, 1 for my home folder, 1 for lynx, and 1 for jaunty...  I want to format the jaunty partition and resize the windows and lynx partitions with the leftover space
[23:46] <ThomasB2k> People have been asking that question for 2 years
[23:46] <ThomasB2k> Um Justin_
[23:46] <justin_> ThomasB2k, yes?
[23:47] <ThomasB2k> Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer?
[23:47] <thewanderer1> Justin_, type in `mount` and see what is under /
[23:47] <thewanderer1> /  is your root partition and it has a /dev/something pointing to it, that's your answer
[23:47] <justin_> thanks.  I'm still fairly new to all this.
[23:48] <ThomasB2k> Justin, run "palimpsest"
[23:48] <ThomasB2k> that should tell you something if you still don't know
[23:48] <fearful> Jordan_U, I did this and when I restarted again, received the same child_rip error.
[23:51] <justin_> also, since i have a windows partition grub would be on it's boot record right?
[23:51] <ader10> Is it possible to daemonize a wine program and still see the interface once logged in?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> justin_: No, grub should not be on the partition boot record of your windows partition.
[23:53] <cherva> can someone tell me what is the route command to add a gateway for a special subnet ( like 10.8.0.X ) ?
[23:53] <fearful> Jordan_U, any ideas why?
[23:54] <Bluh> I'm messing with my Ubuntu and I like to know how I can change my login screen and where might I find more?
[23:54] <thewanderer1> Bluh, System->Administration->Login screen
[23:54] <thewanderer1> find more on gnome-look.org
[23:55] <chrissharp123> cherva: try something like 'sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 gw 10.0.X.X'
[23:55] <slidinghorn> Bluh, try these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html
[23:55] <chrissharp123> (substituting your network's values, of course)
[23:55] <Jordan_U> fearful: No. Is there a particular reason that you thought that adding acpi=off to the list of kernel parameters would fix things?
[23:55] <fearful> Jordan_U, well its the only way I figured it out that loads.
[23:56] <thewanderer1> cherva: ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via YOURGATEWAYIP
[23:56] <Jordan_U> fearful: When did you get it to load by adding acpi=off?
[23:56] <cherva> chrissharp123, thanks it worked
[23:56] <fearful> Since the Live CD I had to use the option acpi=off to load Jordan_U
[23:56] <cherva> thewanderer1, thx
[23:56] <organic4you> can someone help me install nvidia drivers it says not with x server
[23:57] <organic4you> i did init.d/gdm.stop
[23:58] <Jordan_U> organic4you: Use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, don't try to download the driver from nvidia's site.
[23:59] <dart> can smone send me ubutu classroom irc channel name
[23:59] <ikonia> #ubuntu-classroom
[23:59] <dart> thnx