[00:44] <technologov> hi all !
[00:44] <technologov> Running Kubuntu 10.04
[00:44] <technologov> Just bought new PC with Intel P67 chipset
[00:44] <technologov> And sound doesn't work on it
[00:44] <technologov> lspci shows:
[00:45] <technologov> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[00:45] <technologov> any ideas?
[00:45] <technologov> drivers are part of kernel package or part of alsa package ?
[00:47] <technologov> Just bought new PC with Intel P67 chipset, and no sound ! plz help !
[00:47] <technologov> What to update ?
[01:07] <Daskreech> technologov: Hi
[01:07] <Daskreech> !sound
[02:01] <digirak> guys
[02:01] <digirak> i uninstalled kubuntu and trying to run a pure ubuntu
[02:02] <digirak> but the login/switch user/log off doesnt seem to work
[02:02] <digirak> any suggestions
[02:04] <Mase_wk> digirak: what do you mean by pure ubuntu ?
[02:04] <digirak> Mase_wk: no Kubuntu wrapper
[02:04] <digirak> Mase_wk: pure gnome if you like
[02:04] <Mase_wk> right.
[02:04] <Mase_wk> so are you using GDM ?
[02:05] <Mase_wk> as the login manager
[02:05] <digirak> Mase_wk: yes but the login manager seems to be kdm now
[02:05] <Mase_wk> that is your problem
[02:05] <digirak> Mase_wk: where do i change this?
[02:06] <Mase_wk> dpkg-reconfigure gdm maybe
[02:06] <Mase_wk> actually is gdm installed ?
[02:06] <Mase_wk> if so it should have given you the option
[02:06] <Mase_wk> try just doing an apt-get install gdm
[02:07] <digirak> Mase_wk: yes gdm is installed
[02:07] <yofel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:08] <digirak> yofel: ok am there
[02:09] <digirak> yofel: now is my loging manager gdm?
[02:09] <yofel> if you choose gdm it should be
[02:09] <yofel> you can check in /etc/X11/default-display-mana/etc/X11/default-display-managerger
[02:09] <yofel> er...
[02:09] <yofel> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:10] <digirak> yep it says gdm
[02:10] <digirak> yofel: lets hope it works
[02:10] <Mase_wk> restart X and you should have gdm
[02:10] <digirak> :)
[02:10] <digirak> Mase_wk: sounds good
[02:15] <shady_> hi guys
[02:15] <Mase_wk> hi
[02:16] <shady_> i have an isuue with sound in my pc
[02:16] <shady_> whenever i plug the headphones the sound goes off
[02:16] <Mase_wk> off ?
[02:17] <shady_> but it works fine with me in xp or 7
[02:17] <Mase_wk> what do you mean by off...as in it gets muted ?
[02:17] <Mase_wk> or fails to play in your head phones ?
[02:17] <shady_> yea
[02:17] <Mase_wk> yea to which one ?
[02:18] <shady_> dunno but no sound even the system sounds
[02:18] <Mase_wk> well does kmix say it's muted ?
[02:18] <shady_> mute^^ is the word
[02:18] <shady_> no
[02:19] <shady_> everything is playing
[02:19] <Mase_wk> ok, so these headphones are they usb headphones  ?
[02:19] <shady_> no
[02:19] <Mase_wk> they have a regular 3.5mm jack ?
[02:20] <shady_> regular ones
[02:20] <shady_> yep
[02:20] <Mase_wk> hmm
[02:20] <shady_> it works fine in other OS
[02:21] <Mase_wk> not really sure afaik kubuntu isn't doing any sort of plugin detection
[02:21] <shady_> i have a laptob
[02:21] <shady_> mb it has something with drivers?
[02:21] <Mase_wk> usually that sort of stuff is handled just in the hardware but i guess it could possibly be software controlled
[02:22] <Mase_wk> what kind of laptop do you have ?
[02:22] <shady_> asus g60
[02:23] <shady_> or mb i reinstall the system
[02:23] <Mase_wk> nah
[02:23] <Mase_wk> there is no point
[02:23] <Mase_wk> it's not like windows where a reinstall fixes stuff
[02:24] <shady_> sry am noob in linux
[02:24] <Mase_wk> try this
[02:24] <Mase_wk> http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Asus+G50V#sound
[02:24] <Mase_wk> it could be that your hardware requires special workarounds
[02:24] <dfdf> is kubuntu better than snow leopard?
[02:25] <Mase_wk> dfdf: better at what  ?
[02:25] <dfdf> at evry thing
[02:25] <shady_> ty bro i'll check it out
[02:25] <Mase_wk> i am sure there are things snow leopard does better and worse than kubuntu
[02:25] <Mase_wk> for a particular user
[02:26] <Mase_wk> really depends what you'
[02:26] <Mase_wk> what you're looking for in an OS
[02:26] <dfdf> hacking tools
[02:26] <Mase_wk> if your looking for an operating system that respects your liberty kubuntu most certainly is better.
[02:27] <Mase_wk> dfdf: well kubuntu has alot of development tools. If you are talking about crackin / penetration testing then i don't really know. It's not something many kubuntu users would do
[02:27] <dfdf> is it good for remote connections?
[02:27] <Mase_wk> sure
[02:28] <Mase_wk> ssh or X11 forwarding over ssh works wonderfully
[02:29] <dfdf> is kubuntu safe?
[02:30] <Daskreech> dfdf: Reasonably so
[02:30] <dfdf> i like to use it as a server for wikileaks
[02:30] <Mase_wk> well safe is a relative term. The developers are very security concious so they do their best to ensure that users are protected
[02:30] <Daskreech> please do
[02:31] <Daskreech> but safety on the internet is squarely in the users control
[02:31] <Mase_wk> dfdf: you might like to look at the ubuntu-server version. Please be aware that any operating system can be insecure if configured incorrectly
[02:32] <dfdf> the bios on my computer dont let me install kubuntu
[02:33] <Mase_wk> dfdf: what is your computer ?
[02:33] <Mase_wk> make / model
[02:33] <dfdf> t3512
[02:33] <dfdf> gateway
[02:34] <Mase_wk> what error message are you getting ?
[02:34] <Mase_wk> or where is the problem ocurring ?
[02:34] <dfdf> std error
[02:35] <dfdf> how can by pass the bios?
[02:35] <Mase_wk> i don't know what an std error is.
[02:36] <dfdf> wen i try to install from the live cd it just freezes
[03:22] <rockguy32> Question: Where do I go to find what version of Kubuntu I'm running?
[03:25] <cpatrick08> @rockguy32 /etc/lsb-release
[03:27] <rockguy32> Ok thank you.
[03:28] <cpatrick08> no problem
[03:29] <cpatrick08> does it say you are running the one you thought you were
[03:29] <rockguy32> I have another question: Is there a Visual Basic like program for KDE that is FOS?
[03:29] <rockguy32> Yes it does.
[03:32] <Mase_wk> rockguy32: which particular aspect of visual basic ?
[03:32] <Mase_wk> the language or the IDE ?
[03:33] <rockguy32> IDE
[03:33] <cpatrick08> that is good
[03:33] <Mase_wk> qtcreator is good
[03:33] <Mase_wk> I like kdevelop also
[03:34] <Mase_wk> both of those are primarily for C++
[03:34] <rockguy32> I keep putting off learning C++ but I guess it's time I did.
[03:34] <Mase_wk> i think eclipse and netbeans are decent IDE's for java
[03:34] <Mase_wk> if you are familiar with .NET you might like monodevelop which is for C#
[03:34] <rockguy32> Java using the JRE or just as the language?
[03:35] <Mase_wk> both
[03:35] <rockguy32> I don't particularly like the JRE
[03:35] <Mase_wk> each to their own
[03:35] <rockguy32> As far as .NET, I've not really used it all that much, and what experience I have had I disliked.
[03:36] <Mase_wk> well there are heaps of other languages, just don't know much about their IDE's
[03:37] <rockguy32> I don't particularly like anything that is dependency heavy.
[03:37] <Mase_wk> you can write anythin in vim or emacs or kate :)
[03:37] <rockguy32> Well the one I'd like to use I know for a fact has no FOS equivalent: Blitz3D
[03:37] <Mase_wk> no idea what that is
[03:38] <rockguy32> It's the language I learned first.
[03:38] <rockguy32> Well, second, QBasic was first.
[03:38] <Mase_wk> not sure what you mean by dependancy heavy....but dependancies aren't really an issue is the FOSS world
[03:38] <Mase_wk> it's all handled by the package manager
[03:38] <rockguy32> Java didn't do that for me.
[03:39] <rockguy32> Java was a pain to get working.
[03:39] <Mase_wk> not sure what you mean, apt-get install openjdk
[03:39] <rockguy32> OpenJDK didn't work for me, I had to use Sun Java
[03:39] <Mase_wk> works for me and i'm a java developer :)
[03:40] <Mase_wk> or at least part of my job is
[03:40] <rockguy32> What I wish I could use, but hasn't yet made a linux port is Unity3D.
[03:41] <rockguy32> If/when Steam gets a Linux port, Unity may follow as well but that's all purely speculation.
[03:41] <Mase_wk> yeh well that's the downside of proprietary tools / applications
[03:41] <Mase_wk> if it's not available for the platform you want to run your sol
[03:42] <rockguy32> Ya...
[03:42] <rockguy32> I might try Python, but I don't know the first thing about it.
[03:43] <Mase_wk> the only way to learn is by trying it :)
[03:43] <rockguy32> Well I have to let the package manager finish installing updates before I can even install it.
[03:43] <Mase_wk> it's probably already installed
[03:44] <Mase_wk> lots of applications use python and the most common modules
[03:44] <rockguy32> I'm pretty sure Blender does.
[03:44] <shady_> how do i run video files like RMVB FLV,.....etc
[03:45] <rockguy32> I use VLan
[03:45] <shady_> or the codecs 4 them
[03:47] <shady_> ty
[03:48] <rockguy32> Did it work?
[03:49] <Daskreech> !python
[03:54] <rockguy32> Ok, so what's the best Python IDE for KDE?
[03:57] <rockguy32> Nvm, found one.
[03:57] <rockguy32> Well, thanks for the help.
[04:03] <GreyGeek> Python IDE:  Eric.
[04:03] <GreyGeek> Pythong GUI RAD Tool:  Boa-Constructor
[06:47] <BentFranklin> A user occasionally ssh's into my system from a remote, with my permission, which I want to grant and rescind from time to time.  What's the best way to toggle that person's permission to ssh into my system?
[06:49] <shadeslayer> BentFranklin: well you could stop the ssh daemon when you don't want him to access your system
[06:49] <shadeslayer> sudo service ssh stop
[06:50] <BentFranklin> No, I want to be able to ssh myself at times even when he can't.
[06:50] <shadeslayer> ah
[06:51] <shadeslayer> one sec
[06:51] <shadeslayer> BentFranklin: try http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/28/prevent-certain-users-from-logging-into-your-system/
[06:52] <shadeslayer> the best way i guess is passwd -l joe
[06:53] <BentFranklin> Ya that's very helpful, thanks!
[06:54] <shadeslayer> sure no problem :)
[06:54] <BentFranklin> The ftpusers method seems weird - adding a name to ftpusers prevents them from ftp'ing.
[06:55] <shadeslayer> yeah ... the passwd -l looks best for your use case
[06:56] <shadeslayer> but for the ftp thing, you could just skip the ftp part
[06:56] <BentFranklin> Uh oh.  Man passwd says "Note that this does not disable the account. The user may still be able to login using another authentication token (e.g. an SSH key).  To disable the account, administrators should use usermod --expiredate 1 (this set the accounts expire date to Jan 2, 1970)."
[08:49] <ubuntu_> trying to install on a new laptop with win7 on it, but cant resize the HDD? known bug?
[08:54] <tuhin> try to boot in live cd mode than change partions
[08:58] <thebigcheese> tuhin: yeah, Im doing that. Its let me shrink the windows one, but it leaves the spaces as unuseable
[08:59] <tuhin> did u apply the changes?
[08:59] <tuhin> i m talkign abt Gparted
[08:59] <thebigcheese> ahh, Ill try directly from gparted
[08:59] <tuhin> boot in live cd mode then try gparted
[09:00] <remur_030> Hi guys, I installed ubuntu as base system and wanted to switch to kubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop, problem is it totally fails setting up an empty session, I only get a gnome-terminal=
[09:00] <remur_030> ?
[09:00] <remur_030> that is on 10.10
[09:01] <tuhin> u should get to choice the DE when u login (in task bar i think)
[09:02] <remur_030> tuhin: yes, and I selected kde
[09:02] <remur_030> hm wait, maybe I didn't and it just stumbled into an empty session
[09:02] <remur_030> brb =)
[09:05] <thebigcheese> tuhin: ahh, its because there are already 4 partitions
[09:06] <remur_030> tuhin: wee thanks, that really was the problem!
[09:07] <tuhin> np
[10:19] <basel__> هلا
[12:44] <cadomeireles> hello
[12:44] <cadomeireles> how to share a 3g connection with a wi-fi router?
[13:06] <kaddi> hi, how would I go about to create a pdf file from a different file that would always contain 2pages on one page?
[13:06] <kaddi> something like pdf creator does
[13:36] <joery> Funny how everyone asks questions in here but no one ever replys.
[13:38] <james147> joery: people do reply ^^ just seems to be quite today :p
[13:38] <joery> I wanted to reply to some questions but always before i press enter i notice the question was asked like 2hrs ago =/
[13:39] <joery> no point in replying when user already left chan :p
[13:40] <james147> yeah, that happens... i tend to try to tab complete their name... to see if they are still there :)
[13:47] <erib> Can anyone please help me figure out why Xorg hogs 500MB of ram  on  my kubuntu 10.10 after 35days of work?
[13:48] <erib> *5* days.. not 35.
[13:48] <susundberg> to me it sounds like it would be leaking memory ..
[13:48] <james147> erib: probally another application not behaving well ^^ xorg takes some of the work other applications do
[13:49] <susundberg> but if the process (X) is the one allocated with all the space .. ?
[13:49] <erib> to be more specific. only 35 MB  are shared
[13:50] <Pici> !ram
[13:51] <james147> susundberg: yes, xorg allocates resources when asked by other applications as far as I know
[13:52] <james147> ^^ and the "shared" memory refers to libraries if i remember correctly
[13:52] <erib> so how can I know which application is asking X to allocate memory for it ?
[13:53]  * james147 isnt entirely sure... he would start be closing applications to see if any free up the space
[13:53] <susundberg> james147: i don't know either, you are probably more correct than i am.. :)
[13:54] <bigbrovar> Hi guys
[13:58]  * james147 would also suggest upgrading if you can ^^
[13:59] <erib> this is insane. 500MB of ram just by leaving the machine Idle. nothing special really.
[14:01] <james147> erib: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[14:01] <erib> james147: 10.10, latest nvidia drivers.
[14:02] <susundberg> nvidia binary drivers ..
[14:02] <james147> erib: the ones from the repo? or form the nvidia site?
[14:03] <erib> james147: from the repo, installed with jockey
[14:04] <erib> and no desktop effects . I turned everything off.
[14:05] <b_gholamali> erib, same problem, 580MB of ram and I`m just using Quassel
[14:06] <erib> b_gholamali: *glad* to hear that :)
[14:06] <b_gholamali> erib: tnx :)
[14:07] <shadeslayer> yeah that's a X leak
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Unable to connect to archive.canonical.com:http:
[14:07] <shadeslayer> hmm ... iirc security.ubuntu is hit pretty hard right now
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:07] <shadeslayer> hey BluesKaj :)
[14:07] <erib> to be honest. I'm living with that problem for quite a long time and killing X every time. but it's just pissing me off right now.  is it KDE specific?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> no idea on archive
[14:08] <shadeslayer> erib: not really
[14:08] <shadeslayer> it's a X issue
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer , canonical is down I guess
[14:08] <shadeslayer> well .. i'm on xorg edgers .. and X is taking 160 MB here
[14:08] <james147> erib: no happening here ^^ though I am not running kubuntu atm (though i am kde)
[14:08] <shadeslayer> the system is up for more than a day
[14:09] <erib> so the whole ubuntu community is just living with that ? the whole linux desktop community?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> erib: try xorg edgerss
[14:09] <shadeslayer> *edgers
[14:09] <shadeslayer> that might help
[14:09] <james147> shadeslayer: edgers?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> yeah it's a ppa with some bleeding edge X packages
[14:11] <BluesKaj> just had desktop effects crash under normal load , nothing heavy or graphics intensive going on...kde 4.6 is still abit shakey
[14:12] <erib> how can I investigate what is hogging the memory inside X? I know it's not the shared mem stuff but what else can I figure out?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> erib, check X in system monitor
[14:16] <dundee> Hello. My kde4.6 on Dell studio keeps freezing momentarily. Can anyone help please?
[14:17] <kyubutsu> BluesKaj: i'd check its performance with Common settings disabled and Texture filter to Nearest(fastest) .. see if you gain some stability
[14:17] <erib> Well system monitors shows that about 480MB are "heap"
[14:18] <kyubutsu> BluesKaj: of course it will be a bland experience that way but it might not crash on you
[14:18] <erib> is there a way to analyze what's in that heap ?
[14:19] <dundee> Hello. My kde4.6 panel on Dell studio keeps freezing momentarily. Can anyone help please?
[14:20] <kyubutsu> dundee: disable Desktop Effects and check if it keeps doing it
[14:21] <dundee> kyubutsu:  I tried disabling Desktop Effects put the problem still persists.
[14:23] <kyubutsu> dundee: have you tried replacing it with a new panel ?
[14:24] <dundee> kyubutsu: Haven't tried that as yet. Will try now and see what happens.
[14:25] <dundee> kyubutsu: I am also just realizing that its not only the panel freezes but I can't right click on the desktop either.
[14:26] <dundee> kyubutsu: This happens quite frequently but only for a couple seconds, but its quite annoying.
[14:26] <kyubutsu> so plasma might be at fault .. maybe you should go a step further, make a new user and check if it happens there
[14:27] <dundee> kyubutsu: Desktop Switching and task switching still works when the panel and right click on desktop freezes
[14:28] <kyubutsu> i would even try switching workspaces and see if something happens automagically .. (heh)
[14:30] <dundee> kyubutsu: Ok I will try those two suggestions and see what happens in a minute as I can't log out as yet to test the new user.
[14:30] <dundee> kyubutsu: Thanks for your suggestions.
[14:30] <kyubutsu> :)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> hmm, canonical still down , updates not coming thru
[14:42] <BluesKaj> fotn their repos at least
[14:42] <BluesKaj> for
[14:51] <kyubutsu> i installed some Login themes via system settings and they're not showing up in the list  :(
[14:53] <kyubutsu> anyone know the folder they get downloaded to
[14:55] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, that's a common problem in kde ...I've installed several themes , wallpapers , colour themes etc , and the theme installer shows alot of them as installed , but a lot don't show up in the lists
[14:56] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, beats me where the missing themes etc are directed to
[15:01] <joery> im switching back to gnome lol
[15:01] <james147> ^^ I think that problem is linked to the fact it downloads them from kde-look.org... and not all of the themes come in an "installable" state :( ... this is improving over time however (kde4.6 handles it slightly better)
[15:02] <james147> joery: for any particular reason?
[15:02] <joery> well I installed kubuntu for the first time because i liked the look of kde
[15:02] <joery> But wine somehow dous not work, the computer is running slower then when i was using ubuntu
[15:03] <joery> and i really need wine to work
[15:03] <joery> just installed kubuntu few days ago, so its not a big deal to go back to ubuntu
[15:03] <james147> hmm, dont think wine preformance is really linked to kde much... i assume you disabled desktop effects?
[15:03] <joery> yup
[15:03] <james147> joery: what kde version?
[15:04] <joery> idk, the one that comes with kubuntu 10.10
[15:04] <BluesKaj> probly 4.5.1
[15:04] <james147> then 4.5... i suggest disabling neopmuks indexing, see if that helps, or upgrading to kde 4.6 (allot of preformance improvments where done in that version)
[15:05] <BluesKaj> joery, open dolphin/help/about kde
[15:05] <joery> ok, i'll check it out
[15:05] <joery> yh KDE 4.5.1
[15:06] <joery> KDE 4.5.1 is not the most recent version. =/ only if i knew that
[15:06] <joery> Just dont understand how this pc can run this slow... its a 2.6ghz dual core with 3gb ram. and boots even slower then my winxp 700mhz with 512mb ram lol
[15:07] <james147> it was at the time 10.10 was released... and ubuntu never upgrades major package versions during a release
[15:08] <joery> oh k
[15:08] <joery> bbl
[15:08] <BluesKaj> joery, if you wish to upgrade to kde 4.6 : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:09] <joery> ok, thanks I'll run update while I go make my dinner :D
[15:13] <kyubutsu> so, i downloaded the them manually from opendesktop.org and used system settings to install.. works that way
[15:13] <kyubutsu> *them/theme
[15:14] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, yeah, but there's no excuse for the theme installer not to work
[15:15] <kyubutsu> at least using system settings one can easily browse thru available themes so .. not all is lost  /chuckles
[15:16] <Mayank> !uck
[15:16] <BluesKaj> laziness, and Iknow thee are numerous bug filings on the mattrer, but it has low priority, they'd be better of to just give the urls , instead of usinga fulty installer
[15:17] <kyubutsu> i like the installer method , its elegant although it does need some polishing
[15:18] <james147> BluesKaj: is that you volunteering to fix the problem?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> dam glassess , my bifocals affect my fingers
[15:18] <BluesKaj> elegant ? gawd
[15:18] <kyubutsu> <.<
[15:18] <kyubutsu> it is
[15:18] <kyubutsu> -_-
[15:19] <james147> BluesKaj: unfortinutally, like most open source projects, kde sufferers from the fact that developer develop the parts they are most intresteded in....
[15:19] <BluesKaj> elegant is for visuals
[15:19] <kyubutsu> says you
[15:19] <BluesKaj> james147, yup , very unfortunate
[15:20] <james147> BluesKaj: so that basically gives you three opions... complain about it untill some one else does something, fix it your self... or pay someone else to fix it for you :p
[15:20] <susundberg> But compare that to paid software, like M$
[15:20] <susundberg> only option you have is wait for somebody to do it for you ..
[15:21] <BluesKaj> elegant is an overused word in computerspeak IMO , kyubutsu ...now it would actually be so if the installer worked ....maybe :)
[15:21] <james147> susundberg: thats option 1 :)
[15:21] <kyubutsu> i speak of concept elegance here
[15:22] <kyubutsu> obviously the fact that is buggy has already been exposed
[15:22] <james147> kyubutsu: what version of kde are you using?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> james147, I have the right to complain, eeven if i don't have the skills to fix it .
[15:22] <kyubutsu> 10.10
[15:23] <james147> BluesKaj: and that was one of the options i gave you :) ... just dont expect that method to be the fastest at resolving the problem :(
[15:23] <james147> kyubutsu: kde, not kubuntu :)
[15:24] <james147> kyubutsu: (nay kde app > help > about kde)
[15:24] <james147> any ^^
[15:26] <kyubutsu> 4.5.1 .. had to check just in case
[15:26] <BluesKaj> james147, obviously not , but there 's an alternative which I think I'll use , and that's what kyubutsu did :)
[15:26] <james147> kyubutsu: try upgrading to kde 4.6, there where some minor improvments with the get new stuffs dialog (for one, it warnts you then the dl link is actually a http url)
[15:27] <kyubutsu> nah, thats a bit overkill just to get a single feature to work
[15:27] <kyubutsu> :-P
[15:28] <kyubutsu> besides, it really isnt a critical one , i dont install themes in a daily basis  /chuckles
[15:29] <james147> kyubutsu: there are many other improvments that make it worth while... and it isnt a teribally difficalt think to do
[15:30] <kyubutsu> actually, i have tried running 4.6 and failed .. i will upgrade to 11.04 when the time comes though
[15:30] <BluesKaj> james147, kyubutsu , installing kde 4.6 doesn't solve the theme installer problem
[15:30] <james147> a, alright then :)
[15:30] <kyubutsu> back in alpha, if i may add
[15:31] <james147> BluesKaj: solve, no, improve, yes
[15:32] <BluesKaj> another thing, after installing 4.6 the kmixer mutes by default on bootup
[15:32] <kyubutsu> on a side note, also remember natty alpha 3 will be out this thursday, yay!
[15:32] <BluesKaj> strange
[15:33] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, have they fixed the X probs on natty yet ?
[15:33] <kyubutsu> BluesKaj: i get that on 4.5.1 too
[15:33] <kyubutsu> dunno, i dont have natty installed
[15:33] <BluesKaj> it's probly a n alsaconfig prob then , kyubutsu
[15:34] <kyubutsu> i dont consider it a problem , in fact , i kind of prefer it that way
[15:34] <kyubutsu> :-P
[15:39]  * BluesKaj checks in #ubuntu+1
[15:41] <BluesKaj> * -nvidia and -fglrx are broken.  We'll need updated ones from the respective vendors.  Use -nouveau or -ati respectively in the meantime.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> the above post is from feb1st , and the devs haven't removed it from the topic , so i assume the Xorg  stack is still broken
[16:00] <martin___> hi, I've bought a new headset with a microphone. the speaker works fine, but not the microphone
[16:00] <martin___> I don't even think it gets detected, what should I do?
[16:00] <martin___> it's a trust headset
[16:06] <BluesKaj> martin___, open alsamixer to  set the mic ctrls
[16:07] <martin___> in a terminal?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:08] <martin___> woh, the mic works now, but everything is echoing
[16:08] <martin___> trying with mumble
[16:10] <martin___> thank you - works now
[16:23] <ayush_> does kubuntu have a ubuntu software center equivalent?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> ayush_, kmenu /applications/system/kpackagekit
[16:26] <ayush_> and that probably doesn't have the features of ubuntu software center, right? like the ratings for apps
[16:27] <marxjohnson> You can use Ubuntu Software Center on Kubuntu if you want
[16:27] <marxjohnson> apt-get install software-center
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ayush_, check it out instead of asking about ratings etc ..look for yourself
[16:31] <ayush_> BluesKaj, if I have install kubuntu just to find that out, it kinda defeats the whole purpose of this chat room
[16:31] <ayush_> will 11.04 have ubuntu one integration?
[16:32] <nata> BluesKaj: you know how to know how many MB total have to download when kpackagekit install software?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ayush_, this chat is for ppl who use kde , kubuntu and not gnome , some aren't familiar with gnome apps, belivee it or not
[16:33] <nata> may be he wan switch to kubuntu BluesKaj :)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ayush_, that ubuntu one question might have an answer in #ubuntu+1
[16:34] <ayush_> thanks
[16:34] <BluesKaj> nata, well asking about gnome apps here isn't gonna help him
[16:37] <tta> nata: hello please join me on #kubuntu-offtopic i need your help!
[16:38] <nata> tta: hi tta, disappear few days alrewady :)
[16:39] <Mayank> botsnack!
[16:39] <Mayank> botsnack?
[16:47] <ryrych> hello
[16:48] <shadeslayer> hi ryrych
[16:48] <shadeslayer> Mayank: you meant !botsnack
[16:49] <ryrych> I had turned off my computer before monthly backup was made so I miss it.  Kde behaves very curious. I just installed kubuntu-desktop, I already had kaffeine. But kde crashes every time I maximize a window that has been minimized before. Also Kde seems to be very slow. Any suggestions how to fix that?
[18:09] <nata> edwith4 mayb is indonesian tta. i saw he write malay
[18:09] <DarthFrog> He may be Indonesian but he's quite vulgar.
[18:11] <nata> some people may too extremism
[18:11] <tta> he doesn't have the right to insult JESUS it's impolite
[18:12] <Pici> He has been removed from the channel.
[18:12] <nata> sometime got this kind of people only cause some problem to us
[18:13] <tta> about what?
[18:13] <tsimpson> use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat please
[18:16] <nata> theodor01: close your desktop effect at kmenu/system settings/system settings/desktop effects
[18:16] <theodor01> nata: will try this, gonna be back in a minute
[18:17] <aetel> hey
[18:18] <aetel> hello,
[18:18] <nata> aetel: show off your problem man, if not will scold by other :)
[18:19] <theodor01> nata: that works, thanks
[18:19] <nata> theodor01:  :)
[18:20] <aetel> I
[18:30] <surunveri> hi what was the name of the panel which contains minimized icons of running programs
[18:30] <surunveri> ?
[18:31] <surunveri> nevermind i just found it
[18:31] <rork> surunveri: system tray?
[18:31] <surunveri> yeah
[18:31] <rork> just for the people who read the logs ;)
[18:31] <surunveri> so they can see you would've been really helpful
[18:31] <surunveri> ?
[18:31] <surunveri> :-D
[18:31] <surunveri> nah just kidding
[18:32] <FloodBotK1> surunveri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <surunveri> is there nowadays any way to reduce mousesensitivity further than what system settings allows?
[18:32] <surunveri> i've this mouse it's 800dpi i think and.. i dont know what causes it but
[18:32] <surunveri> it's just too sensitive even with all the settings turned to minimum
[18:33] <surunveri> which is basicly ok because it's not like you can't use the computer and once u get used to it who cares.. but I draw with computer and while doing that it's quite annoying :D
[18:38] <coder2> Hello. Please help me ASAP! System input become a mess recent bunch of updates.
[18:38] <rork> surunveri: a pointer acceleration of 0.1 seems to be the lowest here, maybe you can edit the config file but I don't know which one
[18:39] <rork> coder2: which kubuntu version are you using?
[18:39] <coder2> rork:  10.04 32bit
[18:40] <rork> hm, and do you mean with "become a mess"?
[18:40] <coder2> I have a remote control connected into SAA3174. After the recent update I lost remote in VDR. And if I only touch any key on remote my mouse stops working
[18:40] <surunveri> probably "became a mess after recent bunch of updates"
[18:41] <coder2> Now the remote starts to generate keyboard and mouse events!
[18:42] <coder2> surunvery: sorry for my typos. I am very angry
[18:43] <rork> coder2: I'm afraid I know nothing about remotes, but maybe someone else can help you.
[18:44] <coder2> rork: could you please help me with checking of system event mapping. I am almost sure that the mouse points to event7 which is a remote control event
[18:45] <coder2> I cannot use my system without working console
[18:48] <coder2> Yes, cat /proc/bus/input/devices now shows other event mapping. How to get it in order?
[18:53] <JeroenDeDauw> I just connected a new mouse to my laptop and the sensitivity is waay to low; can't find where to adjust it though
[18:54] <coder2> Solved, thanks. I've just changed REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event7" to REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event6". But why the update mixed up the event mapping?
[18:54] <coder2> Thank you. Bye
[18:58] <rork> JeroenDeDauw: System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Mouse (left menu) > Advanced (tab) > Pointer Acceleration (on 10.04 that is, it might be called Input Devices instead of Keyboard and Mouse in later versions)
[19:01] <JeroenDeDauw> rork: thnx :)
[19:29] <shane4ubuntu> using yakuake is there a way to recover a closed session???
[19:33] <drakal> Salut par ici ! j'ai besoin d'aide svp !
[19:34] <drakal> Roh allez, siouplaiiiiit, j'suis nouveau sur kubuntu :(
[19:35] <shane4ubuntu> !fr | drakal
[19:53] <XamDM> after updating my system form ubuntu to kubuntu the only timezone i am able to use is utc, how can i make others available (gmt+1) ???
[19:55] <shane4ubuntu> why did Kubuntu change the mounting setup for external usb hdd???
[19:56] <shane4ubuntu> when I used Ubuntu I wrote a script to sync home to external hdd, always mounted at: /media/uuid  switched to kubuntu and updated script to /media/diskname  now kubuntu switched back to /media/uuid????  Why the changes??
[20:07] <tarak> hola
[20:10] <yofel> shane4ubuntu: which KDE version? 4.6 switched from hal to udisks - so kde and gnome behave the same there now
[20:10] <shane4ubuntu> yofel: ooooh, that is right, I upgraded to 4.6.  thanks
[20:11] <shane4ubuntu> so I don't have to worry about it swapping back then, that was my doing - via upgrade
[20:11] <yofel> yes, kde took a while to deprecate hal, that's where the difference came from
[20:23] <jussi> is there a Qt equivalent for cheese?
[20:32] <rork> jussi: what does cheese do?
[20:32] <jussi> !info cheese
[20:33] <jussi> ahh found it!!!
[20:33] <jussi> !info kamoso
[20:35] <rork> nice, I was going to suggest digikam, but that might be a bit of overkill
[20:35] <jussi> rork: digikam is photo management, not webcam
[20:36] <rork> ah, sorry, I misread
[21:27] <Sentynel> My Kubuntu 10.10 system fails to boot on newer kernel versions - 2.6.35-24 works, but -25 and -27 fail - it just hangs on a plain blue screen when Xorg should start. Had a look in Xorg's logs and all I could find that looks relevant is "[    13.197] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)". Any ideas?
[21:30] <rockguy32> Quick question, where can I find documentation for Kdevelop 4?
[21:30] <rockguy32> Like a command list
[21:46] <archnSXP> !list
[21:48] <archnSXP> !help
[22:12] <chalcedony> i'm trying to install Kopete on Ubuntu 10.04, ive almost got it but i'm getting errors
[22:12] <chalcedony> http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/vBGRYEkX
[22:26] <AYJHBear> has anyone heard anything about kde 4.6.1 releases yet?
[22:28] <trampel> ..and forgive me if this has been disccussed here to death - but how is Unity not the deathknell of Kubuntu?
[22:29] <james147> trampel: what dose Unity have to do with kubuntu?
[22:30] <trampel> well i guess that's my question.  Unity isn't a desktop standard/system/whatever?
[22:30] <Sentynel> unity is a shell interface for GNOME
[22:31] <Sentynel> it's got bugger all to do with Kubuntu and KDE
[22:31] <AYJHBear> Unity is more like a GUI for Gnome? is that a good analogy?
[22:31] <trampel> "to deliver a consistent user experience for desktop" ... http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
[22:32] <trampel> so is Kubuntu "consistent" as far as the lords of Ubuntu think?  (...yes yes, i know "who cares?")
[22:32]  * james147 is going to stick with kde... no matter what gnome does with its desktop its applications are still going to be an unintergrated mess
[22:34] <Sentynel> AYJHBear: that sort of thing yes; it and the gnome default it replaces are the equivalent of the KDE Plasma shell and kwin
[22:36] <AYJHBear> thank you for the information.
[22:36] <chalcedony> i'm trying to install Kopete on Ubuntu 10.04, ive almost got it but is there a trick to figuring out how to solve the errors? http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/vBGRYEkX
[22:36] <AYJHBear> waiting for KDE 4.6.1 now just cannot wait
[22:37] <james147> AYJHBear: I wouldnt get too excited, its only a maintenance release...
[22:38] <james147> chalcedony: how did you try to instlal it?
[22:42] <chalcedony> james147, sudo apt-get i think?
[22:43] <chalcedony> james147, i think the last thing i got was kmobiletools
[22:44] <chalcedony> james147, thank you for answering me, i was feeding cats
[22:46] <fdg_> hello can someone tell me how to change irc network ?
[23:07] <chalcedony> wb\
[23:07] <chalcedony> wb james147 :)
[23:08] <chalcedony> james147, i replied but you may have been timing out
[23:13] <rtdos> (plain ubuntu, not kubuntu but this might apply here too) two questions:   1. conflicting login screens? when the login screen appears, after i enter my username, the login screen disappears as though xinit is reinitializing. 2. whenever the screensaver kicks in and i attempt to login from the screensaver i get an onscreen keyboard (i have uninstalled accessibility options or at least i think i did
[23:46] <atalay> hey guys
[23:47] <Mase_wk> lo
[23:48] <atalay> i have a question.. a technical one about wireless..