[01:37] <mediacenter> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mb/s. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mb/s or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[01:49] <mediacenter> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mb/s. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mb/s or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?


[00:00] <cwillu> All of the history is there, so it doesn't look like the db just got corrupted
[00:00] <cwillu> Just, no reopened windows
[00:00] <cwillu> (well, one reopened window)
[00:11] <asac> cwillu: huh
[00:11] <asac> i observed some fuzziness too
[00:12] <asac> i think i even looked for a few into this, but couldnt find the root cause
[00:17] <cwillu> I _think_ I've only seen it happen on proper shutdowns
[00:17] <cwillu> which makes me think that there's some race involved
[00:17] <cwillu> (i.e, it's starting to close windows before it starts to write out the session state)
[00:21] <asac> cwillu: ah now i remember. yes. saving session is currently broken completely
[00:21] <asac> not sure about the bugzilla bug
[00:22] <asac> it doesnt save the right session when restarting from the addons dialog
[00:30] <asac> probably there is a bug in bugzilla for that
[09:02] <XioNoX> hi !
[09:16] <asac> hi
[09:38] <gnomefreak> asac: ill check in every couple of days. :( i hit the raidl nerve the night before last night. i have to weaar brace for 10 weeks
[09:43] <asac> raidl?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> raidil   i cant spell it let me see if i can find it
[09:45] <gnomefreak> damn dictionary
[09:46] <gnomefreak> raidial
[09:46] <gnomefreak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrist_drop
[09:46] <asac> you hit it?
[09:46] <asac> what did you do?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> i have to read up on it
[09:46] <gnomefreak> yes with a needle
[09:47] <asac> oh good
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gsve myself a shot like i hasve for last 6 years ans i missed the muscle and hit nerve
[09:48] <asac> argh
[09:48] <asac> ok. at least i understand why that happened at all
[09:50] <gnomefreak> one dr said 2-4 weeks but my other er said 10-12 so im looking up what it is
[09:56] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:56] <gnomefreak> If the radial nerve function does not return within several months after a humerus fracture, or if radial nerve palsy occurs with an open fracture of the humerus, then surgical exploration is recommended.
[09:56] <gnomefreak> i have palsy
[10:31] <asac> XioNoX: going well?
[10:31] <XioNoX> I'm doing some PHP now
[10:31] <XioNoX> i think it will take the day
[10:32] <gandi> asac: going well? :)
[10:32] <gandi> asac: I think it's ok for XioNoX to work on this php form while we do lobbying part
[10:33] <asac> what ever you wish
[10:33] <asac> XioNoX: did the flash thing ever work yesterday?
[10:34] <XioNoX> nop
[10:34] <asac> XioNoX: if not, please commit what you have and push it somewhere so others can continue
[10:34] <XioNoX> ok
[10:39] <gandi> XioNoX: when do you plan to finish the flash thing?
[10:40] <XioNoX> I think PHP will take the day, so tommorow I'll go back to flash
[10:44] <XioNoX> Created new branch.
[10:45] <XioNoX> https://code.launchpad.net/~xionox/ubufox/ubufox.altplugins
[11:08] <gandi> asac: any chance for this summary from you today?
[11:13] <asac> gandi: sorry, i got pushed to do network-manager update asap ... so i had to drop all other things
[11:13] <asac> hopefully today i can upload
[11:15] <gandi> sure
[11:15] <gandi> thanks!
[11:29] <asac_the_bumber> everyone bumb!
[14:16] <asac> asac_the_bumber: what needs to be bumbed?
[14:24] <fta> talking to yourself ?
[14:25] <asac> fta: its armin76, the camelion ;)
[14:26] <fta> asac, you need to bumb xul and sm in hardy
[14:27] <fta> bug 218534
[14:27] <asac> thats true. and after i uploaded network-manager i will do that
[14:27] <asac> well ... i uploaded it now
[14:27] <asac> its the second thing on my list to do
[14:27] <asac> err, third :)
[14:29] <asac_the_bumber> asac: haha, pwned *g*
[14:29] <asac_the_bumber> looks like it doesn't sigbus on hppa
[14:29] <asac_the_bumber> although it complains about unaligned accesses a lot :/
[14:30] <armin76> on dmesg
[14:31] <asac> yeah. was fixed
[19:25] <fta> I hate to say it but bzr is far too slow to develop with
[19:26] <fta> i have 82 source files in my project, it takes ~24 sec to have a bzr diff with only 2 files modified
[20:03] <asac> fta: err
[20:03] <asac> that sounds too much
[20:03] <fta> indeed
[20:03] <asac> full mozilla tree takes even less to diff
[20:05] <fta> firefox: pcm_pulse.c:275: pulse_write: Assertion `pcm->last_size >= (size * pcm->frame_size)' failed.
[20:05] <fta> Abort (core dumped)
[20:05] <fta> grrr
[20:05] <fta> this is getting on my nerves
[20:09] <fta> it's inside alsa-plugins
[20:16] <crimsun> that's odd
[20:16] <crimsun> I'll look at it during break/lunch
[20:23] <asac> Wellark: i found a mail in my mailbox for someone who wants to provide all 3g data for finland
[20:24] <asac> you want me to forward? where to?
[21:17] <crimsun> fta: 32- or 64-bit?
[21:17] <fta> crimsun, 32
[21:21] <fta> crimsun, it's bug 243520


[01:28] <user|39> Hi. How is the support for Nvidia GPUs?
[07:47] <cbreak> good
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:09] <hg81> I found a strange bug? in Kubuntu 23.10. I did a fresh install. After selecting the Wayland Session i noticed that the minimize and maximize buttons where missing in the firefox browser. I also noticed that two of my extensions (KDE Plasma integration and Zotero) are not functional. All of this has worked in Kubuntu 23.04. The missing buttons are
[14:09] <hg81> most likely related to Wayland, because the problem does not appear when i run firefox on X11. Is there anything i can do to solve this issues?
[15:27] <genii> !info kde-gtk-config
[15:27] <genii> Hm
[15:32] <oerheks> genii, i am missing a lot of packages.
[15:32] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/kde-gtk-config/+packages
[15:32] <oerheks> it does exist
[15:46] <genii> I think after GTK4 it got deprecated
[17:12] <sikroxmemer_> is this a server !?
[19:50] <user|97> hello
[19:51] <user|97> how can i manage dual bot in kubuntu?
[19:51] <user|97> i boot in kubuntu but don't how to coose wndows


[01:34] <Azelphur> wtf, I'm booting 11.10 from USB on my laptop, I heard the login screen sound so I assume it made it reasonably far
[01:34] <Azelphur> but my screen is just cycling through colors, blue, white, black, red, green, and blue again
[01:34] <Azelphur> the whole screen, cycling through those colors.
[07:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:44] <czajkowski> popey: ping
[07:44] <popey> o/
[07:45] <czajkowski> morning sent to pm not NSFW link
[07:58] <Jutnux> Morning
[08:14] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:26] <DJones> Morning
[08:59] <exobuzz> popey, https://ship.parcelforce.net/welcome - stupid web developers or stupid management ?
[08:59] <exobuzz> they used to forbid you from using the site at all. i suppose this is an improvement from being totally crap to just crap
[09:01] <popey> hah
[09:01] <Myrtti> morning
[09:01] <exobuzz> this should be on th efacebook thread. im getting my social networks all confused
[09:04] <DJones> Oops http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16027006
[09:07] <Myrtti> ooo, snow has stayed on the ground overnight
[09:08] <hoover> morning all
[09:08] <hoover> any git users / experts around?
[09:09] <hoover> I'm wondering how to clone a git repo from this url:
[09:09] <hoover> http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/?p=nagios_downtime.git;a=summary
[09:09] <hoover> git clone tells me that there's no repo on that address 8(
[09:18] <Myrtti> nja
[09:18] <Myrtti> used http://git.larsmichelsen.com/git/nagios_downtime.git and got fatal: not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?
[09:20] <hoover> yep
[09:21] <hoover> I've also tried git: as a protocol, connection refused
[09:24] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:24] <hoover> morning
[09:46] <Myrtti> wheeeee
[09:46] <Myrtti> audible_bell \o/
[09:46] <popey> thats a good thing is it?
[09:48] <AlanBell> how did you do it Myrtti?
[09:48] <Myrtti> well, if I've got irssi hilights, it seems that audible_bell passes through to screen and from screen to terminal and from terminal to Compiz and from Compiz to Unity, which makes the terminator icon wiggle in the unity bar
[09:49] <Myrtti> could set the sound effect volume in PulseAudio to 0 if I disliked it, but as of now it's an excellent thing
[09:49] <Myrtti> AlanBell: first I noticed that I didn't have it enabled in zsh, and I probably still don't
[09:50] <Myrtti> second I checked if screen was set ok and it wasn't, but I have no way of telling if that was the case before yesterday when I had connection problems and had to kill screen and irssi
[09:51] <Myrtti> then I tried xset b 100 and pactl upload-sample and well, seems to work now
[09:57] <popey> ♥  get_iplayer
[09:57] <Myrtti> yeah it's magnificent :->
[09:57] <popey> ooh yay, i told get_iplayer to grab 'how to build', seems they're repeating series 1 somewhere, it's picked up one of those episodes as well as the 3 eps from series 2
[09:59] <Myrtti> I've put the RSS feeds into liferea and liferea is rigged to start get_iplayer in a terminal when the title of the feeditem is clicked
[09:59] <Myrtti> I'm usually interested in science, nature and history so it serves me well
[09:59] <popey> i might go back to liferea
[10:00] <Myrtti> it integrates nicely with memenu
[10:00] <gord> i don't pay the licence fee so my version of get iplayer is go to amazon and buy the bluray :(
[10:00] <bigcalm> gord: that's very well behaved of you
[10:01] <popey> gord: you dont need to pay license fee to use get_iplayer
[10:01] <Myrtti> I can only assume D pays it
[10:01] <popey> you only need to pay license fee to watch live or near-live telly
[10:01] <bigcalm> popey: but is it morally wrong?
[10:01] <popey> not if the law says so
[10:01] <gord> eh i'd feel bad
[10:01] <popey> no different than watching non-live iplayer on bbc.co.uk
[10:01] <daubers> Morning
[10:02] <gord> to be honest, i only want the nature documentaries and i want them on bluray
[10:02] <popey> lo
[10:02] <gord> frozen planet comes out on the 8th!
[10:02] <popey> heh
[10:02] <Myrtti> popey: only difference is that you don't need to suffer the browser adding an extra layer of possible troubles
[10:02] <bigcalm> alias get_iplayer_web_interface="cd ~/Music/iPlayer;perl get_iplayer.cgi --port=1935 --getiplayer=/usr/bin/get_iplayer --listen=<IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:02] <popey> hmm, liferea comes with a podcast subscription which doesnt exist
[10:03] <bigcalm> I <3 the web interface
[10:03] <bigcalm> Reminds me of the mythtv interface quite a bit
[10:04] <Myrtti> I wonder how slippery it's out there now the snow is there
[10:04] <Myrtti> should walk to the other side of the suburb to run some errands
[10:04] <dogmatic69> no snow in the west midlands
[10:04] <gord> get the feeling we won't get snow this year, still not actually that cold
[10:04] <dogmatic69> gord: where abouts are you?
[10:04] <bigcalm> It's anybody's guess
[10:04]  * Myrtti goes to take a picture
[10:05] <gord> dogmatic69, crewe
[10:06] <dogmatic69> looked like snow close to you on the news last night
[10:07] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/6458816607/
[10:07] <bigcalm> Yay Tampere
[10:08] <gord> fyi, snow that falls but does not stick, is not snow
[10:08] <gord> do not trust it
[10:08] <Myrtti> gord: well it's been there over 12 hours now
[10:09] <gord> Myrtti, yeah not disputing your snow, your snow is very valid ;)
[10:09] <knightwise> hey everyone :)
[10:09] <Myrtti> thohoho
[10:10] <Myrtti> my snow ♥
[10:13]  * popey files bug 900214 :D
[10:14] <Myrtti> popey: an Ubuntu podcast or the Ubuntu podcast?
[10:14] <popey> how many are there? ☺
[10:15] <Myrtti> I thought there was full circle and some others
[10:15] <Myrtti> I don't know, it's just that that bug name isn't unambiguous :-P
[10:15] <popey> changed
[10:15] <popey> bug 900214
[10:15] <popey> :D
[10:16] <nigelb> popey: hah
[10:16] <popey> will add similar for gpodder ☺
[10:16] <Myrtti> I wish there was a proper gpodder.net podcast client for Android
[10:17] <Myrtti> I'd love to get rid of Listen
[10:17] <Laney> morning
[10:18] <Laney> i keep getting flats on me bike :(
[10:19] <Myrtti> right, cup of tea consumed, time to get going
[10:20] <gord> replace bike wheels with concrete wheels, problem solved
[10:22] <Myrtti> haaaa cuecat to the rescue
[10:23] <knightwise> hmmm
[10:23] <knightwise> as a podcatcher Gpodder is quite ok on ubuntu
[10:23] <knightwise> but i keep getting "user locale input settings" errors when i try to run Gpodder from the command line interface
[10:25] <Myrtti> UK banks should develop something like what Finnish banks have - barcodes on the bottom of the paper bills. Makes paying individual bills easier. Of course nowadays would be easier if it were a qr code
[10:27] <Myrtti> I got some USB cuecats from USA just for two purposes, random paper bills and librarything
[10:39] <hoover> I'm also looking for a good android podcast client
[10:39] <DJones> Myrtti: About QR code, the rugby team I watch has just brought out their new shirt for teh 2012 season, its supposed to have a QR code in the design to take you direct to the clubs website
[10:39] <hoover> I just dumped podkicker after it turned my sd into read only for the umpteenth time
[10:40] <hoover> I'm now back to downloading them manually on the htc's sd card and listening to them in the std music player
[10:41] <knightwise> hoover: doggcatcher ?
[10:41] <popey> hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_podcatchers#Android
[10:41] <knightwise> hoover: i download them using gpodder and have an rsync script that kicks them over to my droid
[10:46] <danfish> morning
[10:47] <danfish> b'ah :( I'm officially banning Mondays. From now on it's a 6 day week.
[10:47] <hoover> thanks for the link
[10:47] <hoover> knightwise: yep, I was thinking of doing the same
[10:52] <MooDoo> danfish: you wish :D
[10:57] <danfish> MooDoo: I did wish - closed my eyes and clicked my heels together and everything
[10:57] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:00] <MooDoo> danfish: obviously you were not wearing red jeweled magic slippers
[11:01] <bigcalm> I'm on holiday this week - so why am I working?
[11:01] <bigcalm> I don't understand me
[11:02] <MooDoo> bigcalm: crazy fool :) go do something else
[11:03] <bigcalm> Might go and have a hair cut
[11:08] <Guest63416> do chrimbo shopping
[11:09] <Guest63416> !ping
[11:10] <Jutnux> Coach trip:(
[11:11] <oimon> !ping
[11:11] <oimon> phew
[11:15] <bigcalm> Will be doing xmas shopping on Saturday after the uu meal
[11:19]  * AlanBell updates the booking
[11:20] <bigcalm> Change in numbers?
[11:20] <AlanBell> yeah, I booked 9 originally and we have 8
[11:20] <bigcalm> Aha
[11:21] <bigcalm> How do the numbers compare to what you had expected?
[11:23] <AlanBell> less interest from canonical than I had expected, otherwise about what I thought
[11:23] <bigcalm> Ah
[11:23] <AlanBell> it isn't a cheap night
[11:23] <bigcalm> Indeed not
[11:23] <Laney> how much is it?
[11:23] <bigcalm> I've got another xmas meal to attend with Hayley on the Thursday evening
[11:23] <directhex> one
[11:23] <bigcalm> 41 per head
[11:23] <directhex> hundred
[11:23] <directhex> beeeeelion
[11:23] <directhex> dollars!
[11:23] <bigcalm> Heh
[11:24] <bigcalm> This is going to be a bit of an expensive week for me
[11:25] <hoover> hey biggie
[11:25] <hoover> I just ordered a Kindle Fire for my wife
[11:26] <bigcalm> Hi hoovie
[11:26]  * Laney could be tempted to attend
[11:26] <Laney> depending on trains ...
[11:26] <Laney> is it too late?
[11:26] <AlanBell> Laney: arrgh!
[11:26] <Laney> did you just change it?
[11:27] <Laney> if so don't worry
[11:27] <AlanBell> well I can probably unchange it
[11:27] <AlanBell> only sent the email 10 minutes ago
[11:27] <Laney> no no don't put yourself out
[11:27] <bigcalm> Laney: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/
[11:27] <AlanBell> not putting myself out, if you can make it then awesome, I will update them
[11:27] <Laney> ta
[11:27] <AlanBell> but it does cost me personally £35 for no-shows!
[11:28] <Laney> hmm, last train back 2315
[11:30] <bigcalm> There are 2 sittings per evening and the 2nd one starts at 9pm. So I assume that we'll be ushered out by 8.30pm. So the rest of the evening is free for a pub or something I guess
[11:30] <AlanBell> yes
[11:30] <bigcalm> I just started 2 sentences with 'so'. Somebody is going to be annoyed.
[11:30] <AlanBell> so it won't be me
[11:30] <bigcalm> ;)
[11:31] <bigcalm> I recall popey apologising about starting with so. But I can't remember whom it was to
[11:33] <popey> myself
[11:33] <popey> hmm, going to be tight to get me and wifey there for 18:30
[11:33] <popey> didnt realise they did two sittings
[11:33] <bigcalm> Well, that's confusing
[11:34] <Laney> mmm, first advance
[11:42] <Laney> AlanBell: aye go on then, put me down
[11:43]  * Laney buys train tickets
[11:43] <bigcalm> Laney: join the event :)
[11:43] <AlanBell> yay
[11:43] <Laney> will do
[11:43] <Laney> travelling first class on the way there
[11:43] <Daviey> I'll be on a plane :(
[11:43]  * Laney dons cool shades
[11:43] <bigcalm> Laney: two Iains in one place. Lets be confused :)
[11:44] <Laney> i'll be iron you be eeyane
[11:44] <Daviey> Don't wanna make it the following week? :)
[11:44] <Laney> going somewhere nice?
[11:44] <bigcalm> My ex-gf went from me (Iain) to an Ian
[11:44] <AlanBell> Laney: booking updated :)
[11:44] <bigcalm> My fiancée went from an Ian to me (Iain)
[11:45] <Laney> ty
[11:45] <dutchie> my current gf has gone from a josh to a josh
[11:45] <MartijnVdS> dutchie: by accident?
[11:45] <Laney> argh
[11:45]  * AlanBell wonders what the argh is
[11:45] <Laney> silly loco website
[11:45] <bigcalm> Highlight frenzy!
[11:45] <AlanBell> oh, just that
[11:45] <Laney> I was lookign for register in the grey menu
[11:45] <Laney> but it's a link over to the right
[11:45] <AlanBell> yes
[11:46] <Laney> there we go
[11:46] <dutchie> MartijnVdS: an accident she hasn't noticed for ~8 months if so
[11:47]  * dutchie back to wondering why big shiny computer won't turn on after being moved from university to home
[11:47] <MartijnVdS> dutchie: imagine her face when she notices! :)
[11:47]  * Laney eyes east midlands trains
[11:49] <Laney> rock & roll & booked
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> rick & roll
[11:49] <bigcalm> o.O
[11:50] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ <-- like that, bigcalm ?
[11:51] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: aye, that'll do nicely :)
[11:51] <bigcalm> Synergy doesn't like transmitting special chars
[11:53] <bigcalm> Goodness me, there's a dubstep mix of Barbra Steisand: http://open.spotify.com/track/1OaBSDFIXcDn2YPD82uMHX
[11:53] <MartijnVdS> :'(\
[11:53] <bigcalm> Barbra Streisand
[11:54] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zwdmz0hE ?
[11:55] <bigcalm> Yep
[11:55] <bigcalm> Never seen the music vid though
[11:55] <bigcalm> This is fun
[12:15] <dutchie> :( can't work out what is wrong with my computer
[12:19] <MooDoo> dutchie: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:20]  * MooDoo ducks and runs
[12:20] <dutchie> MooDoo: yes, but it won't even turn on :(
[12:21] <gord> dutchie, is it that you are using it?
[12:21] <bigcalm> User error. Replace user and press any key to continue
[12:21] <bigcalm> Did somebody really make a keyboard with an 'any' key on it?
[12:22] <gord> i think i saw a photochop of that once, but really you could just put a sticker with the word "any" on tilde or something
[12:22] <bigcalm> Aye
[12:53] <oimon> wow, office 2010 is hideous
[12:54] <MooDoo> oimon: the ribbon isn't too nice, but it's useable
[12:55] <oimon> it's very hard to use
[12:55] <oimon> there's an indented paragraph that it impossible to unindent, and you can't see at a glance stuff like fonts used, and size
[12:55] <oimon> i have to use it to edit a document and i['ve screwed it all up
[12:59] <dogmatic69> is it possible to measure a clients bandwidth from a server somehow, with out action from them
[12:59] <dogmatic69> while browsing a site maybe
[13:07] <jpds> dogmatic69: ipref.
[13:07] <dogmatic69> http://www.ipref.com/ :/
[13:09] <jpds> $ apt-cache show iperf
[13:34] <Myrtti> !info htop
[14:11]  * oimon realises he's bought clementines instead of satsumas :(
[14:13] <Laney> good choice
[14:18] <siriusly> clementine is a good choice for a music player too ;)
[14:18] <oimon> that's the only universe in which clementine is better...the universe of music players
[14:38] <johnbristol> Is anyone familiar with a Samsung Printer Unified Driver / Ubuntu 64bit permissions compatibility issue? Googling shows others stuck on getting the CUPS driver to work, and the file manager generating infinite copies of itself, but I can't see a solution posted.
[14:38] <popey> johnbristol: is there a bug filed?
[14:38] <directhex> popey, closed-source crufft
[14:38] <popey> johnbristol: the guy who looks after printing in Ubuntu is very attentive to printing bugs
[14:38] <oimon> S.P.U.D. lol
[14:39] <popey> ahhh
[14:39] <popey> bummer
[14:39] <johnbristol> it installed fine on Slackware, I'm trying to get the printer working for my brother
[14:40] <oimon> which printer johnbristol?
[14:40] <johnbristol> ML-1865
[14:40] <oimon> i have some samsungs that i used existing ubuntu drivers instead of installnig that gubbins and they were completely compatible
[14:41] <johnbristol> thank you oimon, I'll look inside CUPS for an alternative, that's a helpful idea
[14:42] <oimon> e.g. The samsung ML2010 printers seem to work fine using the Samsung ML-1510 Foomatic/gdi driver.
[14:43] <oimon> Also tested ML-2010 and ML-2240 successfully using the Samsung ML-4500 driver
[14:44] <directhex> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Samsung/Samsung-ML-1865W says only the samsung driver is known to work
[14:47] <johnbristol> that's a helpful page directhex. SPUD's faultless on my linux box, I'm just stuck on getting it to function under Ubuntu. But I'll try oimon's suggestion and see if I can get another driver to bite. I suspect it's to do in part with a root permission.
[14:48] <hoover> cheers all
[14:50] <directhex> johnbristol, you personally shouldn't need special permissions to print - it's the cups daemon which runs the printer, so the cups user takes care of all that
[14:51] <johnbristol> directhex, it was Nautilus spawning hundreds of jobs during the install which gave me that impression. I could easily be wrong.
[14:52] <directhex> unified installers are always wrong, and written by people who are barely technically literate. sadly
[14:54] <johnbristol> directhex, the unified installer was faultless for me on Slackware. I may just get him to buy an Ubuntu-recognized printer instead.
[14:55] <directhex> johnbristol, the developer of the installer will have made completely wrong assumptions about linux, and those will fail hard on the "wrong" distro. e.g. using bashisms and declaring #!/bin/sh is a common one
[14:55] <directhex> since sh is always bash, it's no problem using bashisms, right?
[14:59] <AlanBell> /bin/sh -> dash
[15:33] <Azelphur> woooo, got my laptop back
[15:33] <Azelphur> sent it in for repair back in August, took so long \o/
[15:34]  * oimon keeps getting cut on the cutting edge PPAs :(
[15:35] <AlanBell> popey: how did you get on with learning vi?
[15:36] <AlanBell> Azelphur: cool! at least it is back now.
[15:36] <Azelphur> indeed :P
[15:37] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:37] <BigRedS> directhex: That's currently rivalling absence of <ifmod> for my #1 annoyance :)
[15:39] <Azelphur> AlanBell: looks like my HDD size magically doubled too.
[15:39] <Azelphur> can't complain xD
[15:44] <oimon> chromium os lime released: http://blog.hexxeh.net/
[15:44] <oimon> in case you forgot chrome/ium OS existed :)
[16:06] <johnbristol> directhex, there's a working solution at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 - I've added this for the archive in case anyone hits this discussion in future.
[17:03] <Jutnux> Coach trip home,argh.
[17:25] <Myrtti> !info audacity
[17:25] <Myrtti> meh
[17:25] <AlanBell>                                                                                jpds ^^^^^^
[17:25] <Myrtti> Miia - avocados: 1 - 1
[17:26] <gordonjcp> audacity is horrible
[17:26] <gordonjcp> I can't believe that's the best we have for editing samples
[17:26] <Myrtti> bought two to make quac, one was underripe and the other ended up being so stubborn with the seed I cut myself :-(
[17:27] <Myrtti> gordonjcp: I agree on both accounts
[17:27] <jpds> AlanBell: Not my bot.
[17:27] <AlanBell> oh, who runs that one then?
[17:28] <AlanBell> gordonjcp: what does a good sample editor do?
[17:29] <DJones> Isn't that bot tsimpsons
[17:30] <Myrtti> if I could get all the features of Audacity in the UX of Jokosher with a bit more helpful experience, I'd be happy
[17:30] <Myrtti> I want openshot of audio
[17:30] <Myrtti> I like openshot.
[17:30] <jpds> AlanBell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots#lubotu3
[17:30] <ali1234> why can't you just use openshot?
[17:31] <ali1234> audacity really is horrible
[17:31] <AlanBell> I like openshot too, but it seems like audacity to me, there are tracks and you drag stuff on the tracks and chop them up and change levels and such
[17:31] <ali1234> well yeah
[17:31] <ali1234> but audacity is slow, annoying, and crashes all the time
[17:31] <directhex> audacity is prime-time stuff. ION turntables ship with audacity for windows as their only software
[17:31] <ali1234> but all A/V editors work like that
[17:32] <AlanBell> I use it to remove noise, clip things to length and sometimes fade in and out
[18:27] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: not look horrible, not crash all the time, not take ten minutes to import or export a sample
[18:30] <GirlyGirl> Hi
[18:38] <BigRedS> Hello
[18:43] <jutnux> Does anyhone know when the Ubuntu mugs will be in stock?
[19:25] <czajkowski> hmmm
[19:25] <czajkowski> no davmor2
[19:29] <daubers> Eveing
[19:33] <AlanBell> o/ daubers
[19:33] <daubers> This evening I am mostly hacking on the hackspace website
[19:33] <daubers> django ftw \o/
[19:51] <MartijnVdS> you h4x0r you
[19:59] <Myrtti> I'm mostly cursing at Audacity
[20:15] <jutnux> Audacity :-(
[20:41] <jacobw> which hackspace daubers ?
[20:41] <daubers> jacobw: Reading
[20:48] <daubers> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[20:48] <daubers> HM Inland Revenue owe me monies!!!
[20:49] <jutnux> Lucky you :-)
[20:50] <daubers> Christmas has come early this year
[20:52] <hux> the drinks are on daubers :)
[20:53] <daubers> \o\
[20:53] <daubers>  /o/
[20:53] <daubers> \o/
[20:53] <gord> reason i stopped paying my licence fee #315 http://balletnews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1066075-low_res-strictly-come-dancing-2-700x515.jpg
[20:53] <daubers> ARGHHHHHHHHH
[20:54] <hux> lol omg how much did they give U to make U tghat excited lol
[20:54] <hux> does that ARGH mean they want it back now
[20:54] <Myrtti> daubers: I got 470€ returned on Friday, but I knew about it in June already :-) goes to student loan repayments
[20:54] <jutnux> Hhahahhahaha
[20:55] <daubers> Myrtti: Mine was a bit more than that in £
[20:56] <Myrtti> daubers: yeah well I calculate every year how much tax I should pay and I do calculate it a bit too big just to be safe, but not too much - it's interest free loan for the government after all
[20:57] <daubers> Interestingly this was for 2006...
[20:57] <daubers> Myrtti: This'll pay for my bike retest and a bit of money towards a holiday in Aus in a couple of years :)
[20:59] <jutnux> Go too fast daubers?
[21:00] <daubers> jutnux: No, wobbled a bit from nerves :( enough to cross a lane boundary
[21:01] <jutnux> Ah right :-( What bike do you have
[21:01] <jutnux> ?
[21:02] <daubers> not got one at the moment
[21:22] <monsterwizard> I'm reading about the branch and bounce algorithm the one with the estimiated function. Have I read this correctly?...To work out the estimated function time how mny more steps there are by 50
[21:32] <bigcalm> AlanBell: ping
[21:33] <AlanBell> o/
[21:33] <bigcalm> Hazar!
[21:34] <bigcalm> AlanBell: have you conveyed my allergy information?
[21:34] <AlanBell> I have, but I have to do so again on a form
[21:34] <bigcalm> Cheers :)
[21:34] <AlanBell> we have to do a menu choice form that I got sent today
[21:34] <bigcalm> I trusted that you had, but Hayley insisted that I ask again
[21:35] <bigcalm> I see
[21:35] <bigcalm> I thought it was going to be a surprise
[21:35] <AlanBell> it is, to an extent
[21:35] <zleap> this raspberry pi is looking good http://www.raspberrypi.org/
[21:36] <AlanBell> bigcalm: http://www.danslenoir.com/london/images/site/menu/menu.jpg
[21:36] <AlanBell> white, blue, green or red
[21:37] <bigcalm> Is it a choice per person or per booking?
[21:37] <AlanBell> and starter&main, main&pud, or starter&main&pud
[21:37] <AlanBell> per person
[21:37] <bigcalm> Cool
[21:37]  * AlanBell goes to email the 9 peeps
[21:38] <bigcalm> :)
[21:38] <bigcalm> I love causing people work :P
[21:39] <popey> AlanBell: do you have wifeys email address?
[21:39] <popey> guess it
[21:39] <bigcalm><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[21:39] <AlanBell><EMAIL_ADDRESS>:)
[21:39] <popey> clare
[21:39] <AlanBell> yeah, I knew that ;)
[21:50] <awilkins> Now, I'm really really annoyed
[21:51] <awilkins> My *!"^&$^!" computer has decided that it likes to boot Ubuntu after all
[21:51] <awilkins> Why now, no idea. You'd think being left off overnight would be enough if it was time-dependent
[21:52] <Azelphur> HDD failure could explain it, try running a SMART test
[21:57] <awilkins> Azelphur, SMART running all the time... it doesn't explain it, alas, it refused to boot off LiveUSBs as well - it would boot the loader, but wouldn't load the main kernel
[21:58] <Azelphur> weird
[21:58] <awilkins> But it would boot Windows fine... it runs memtest fine
[21:58] <awilkins> It ran mprime for a solid hour with zero errors
[21:58] <awilkins> But then it has a massive sulk, segfaults, hardlocks, blackscreen reset crashes
[21:58] <awilkins> I'm wondering if I should get a UPS
[21:59] <awilkins> I thought it might be the GPU.. was thinking of swapping in the old one
[22:02] <awilkins> It runs Skyrim with no more crashes than average for a Bethesda game.. and no hardlocks or black resets in Windows
[22:02] <awilkins> Bah
[22:10] <ali1234> sounds like hardware problems
[22:13] <ali1234> i need a new router. any suggestions?
[22:15] <smittix> moodoo!
[22:16] <Myrtti> ali1234: sadly I have to say "no Belkin"
[22:16] <ali1234> ok
[22:17] <ali1234> well i'm looking at netgear or linksys
[22:17] <ali1234> is it worth paying the extra to get a gigabit switch?
[22:33] <awilkins> Depends whether you transfer very large files a lot
[22:33] <Azelphur> So I finally got my inspiron duo tablet pc back, Trying to resolve the kernel panic when you plug/remove the power. It's a known issue that happens to all inspiron duo users. Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:34] <ali1234> post the backtrace
[22:35] <Azelphur> how do I post a kernel panic backtrace? there's not too much of a way to copy it
[22:35] <Azelphur> I could take a photo, but it flies off the top of the screen
[22:37]  * Azelphur prods ali1234
[22:37] <shauno> Azelphur: serial port!
[22:37] <ali1234> yeah
[22:38] <Azelphur> it doesn't have one
[22:38] <ali1234> change the console font to the really tiny one
[22:38] <ali1234> then take a photo
[22:38] <Azelphur> how do I do that? :D
[22:38] <ali1234> recompile kernel
[22:38] <Azelphur> \o/
[22:38] <shauno> is there not something you can poke in /proc to get dumps these days?
[22:38] <ali1234> probably not after a kernel panic
[22:39] <shauno> not after, but if it's repeatable, he can do it before-hand?
[22:39] <Azelphur> it's totally repeatable, just unplug and watch the magic \o/
[22:39] <shauno> and no need to recompile for a tiny console font, vga=ask on the boot prompt and pick the least sane option you can find
[22:39] <shauno> yeah, I have a usb soundcard that does the same thing on osx :/
[22:39] <ali1234> try pci=noacpi
[22:40] <Azelphur> ali1234: tried that, no luck
[22:40] <Azelphur> doing vga=ask
[22:41] <Azelphur> shauno: Legacy `ask` parameter no longer supported.
[22:41] <shauno> pants
[22:41] <Azelphur> indeed :(
[22:45] <shauno> with linux, I'm starting to suspect I'm a legacy user
[22:45] <shauno> .. "not supported"
[22:46] <Azelphur> ali1234: is that much of it useful to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/December%202011/IMG_20111205_224319.jpg
[22:46] <ali1234> yes
[22:46] <Azelphur> fun
[22:47] <ali1234> shift+pageup?
[22:47] <Azelphur> ali1234: nope
[22:47] <ali1234> try disabling smp
[22:47] <Azelphur> how?
[22:48] <ali1234> some kernel parameter
[22:48] <Azelphur> k I'll go look that up \o/
[22:48] <shauno> nosmp or maxcpus=0, unless that's legacy too
[22:49] <shauno> (yes, zero, as wrong as that sounds)
[22:50] <ali1234> man bootparam
[22:50] <ali1234> those should both still work
[22:51] <Azelphur> trying it now, not really a perm solution though
[22:51] <ali1234> try to report this bug
[22:51] <ali1234> also try using a recent mainline kernel
[22:51] <Azelphur> it has been reported
[22:51] <ali1234> where?
[22:51] <Azelphur> I was looking for a ppa or something for that earlier but couldn't find one
[22:52] <ali1234> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[22:52] <Azelphur> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/881043
[22:52] <ali1234> try old ones too, it might be a regression
[22:52] <Azelphur> yea, that bug report says it's a regression
[22:53] <ali1234> ok so you need to do a git bisect and find the regression
[22:53] <ali1234> the first thing to do is find the newest kernel that works and the oldest kernel that doesn't work from the kernel ppa
[22:54] <ali1234> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-oneiric/
[22:54] <ali1234> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-oneiric/
[22:54] <ali1234> try those :)
[22:54] <Azelphur> righto
[22:55] <ali1234> don't try the point releases if possible, it will just make the bisect harder
[22:55] <ali1234> you know how to install those right?
[22:55] <Azelphur> not really
[22:55] <ali1234> is it 64 or 32?
[22:55] <Azelphur> still panics with nosmp
[22:55] <Azelphur> 64
[22:56] <ali1234> do you need any dkms stuff?
[22:56] <Azelphur> don't think so, no
[22:56] <ali1234> hmm
[22:56] <ali1234> well, get the headers anyway
[22:56] <ali1234> you grab the two deb files that end with amd64 and the one that ands with all
[22:57] <ali1234> dwownload them all to a folder like 2.6.39/
[22:57] <Azelphur> ah, pretty easy
[22:57] <ali1234> cd into folder and sudo dpkg -i *
[22:57] <Azelphur> :)
[22:57] <ali1234> then on boot hold left shift and select it from the menu
[22:58] <ali1234> while you are doing that, you might want to set up a kernel build on your main PC because building kernels takes ages as you probrably know
[22:58] <ali1234> you will want to git clone linus' tree
[22:59] <Azelphur> ok
[22:59] <ali1234> you can point it to an existing kernel tree if you have one, and it will not download it all again
[22:59] <Azelphur> never done this before so I doubt I have :)
[23:00] <ali1234> here is a guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[23:01] <ali1234> you will want to run that on main PC and then copy of the deb files
[23:01] <Azelphur> yay guides
[23:01] <Azelphur> righto
[23:01] <Azelphur> I'm just downloading the 2.6 and 3.0 debs to try
[23:01] <ali1234> ok
[23:02] <ali1234> the idea is to find the working and not working debs
[23:02] <ali1234> then you use git to find the point between those two versions where it stops working
[23:03] <Azelphur> fun
[23:05] <AlanBell> doing a kernel recompile at every step!
[23:06] <AlanBell> that sounds like a process that would take weeks to do
[23:06] <Azelphur> AlanBell: not on a 4ghz i7
[23:07] <AlanBell> ok
[23:12] <ali1234> AlanBell: it's a bisection. as in "cut in half"
[23:12] <ali1234> so you start in the middle and take the midpoint at each step
[23:13] <AlanBell> binary search
[23:13] <ali1234> right
[23:14] <AlanBell> how long does a kernel build take Azelphur
[23:14] <AlanBell> oh, you are not there yet
[23:14] <ali1234> half an hour or so
[23:17] <Azelphur> ali1234: I installed those packages but no sign of the new kernels in the grub menus
[23:18] <ali1234> maybe you need to run update-grub
[23:18]  * Azelphur tries
[23:18] <shauno> kernel builds feel like they never change.  it took 30-35 minutes on my 386
[23:18] <shauno> er, 30-45.  but regardless
[23:18] <ali1234> there's a lot more modules these days
[23:19] <ali1234> if you disable them all, it takes 5 minutes
[23:32] <Azelphur> ali1234: nope update-grub doesn't solve it either
[23:32] <ali1234> maybe you have to install the debs individually then
[23:33] <Azelphur> perhaps :)
[23:38] <Azelphur> ali1234: nope, they seem to install but there's no mention of them in the grub menu
[23:39] <ali1234> hmm


[00:14] <vorlon> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#queue-huge-focal-amd64 looks good
[00:15] <vorlon> interesting, I didn't realize that britney schedules autopkgtests alphabetically by architecture.  Maybe we should consider reordering that so that it schedules tests for the slowest arch first; or orders by (packagename,arch) instead of (arch,packagename).
[00:17] <vorlon> otoh at this rate it should only take maybe 20 minutes to schedule all the glibc tests on amd64, so perhaps a pointless microoptimization
[00:23] <mwhudson> vorlon: does it make sense to remove that perl from -proposed if it's pointless? or is it too late for that
[00:24] <vorlon> mwhudson: it's burned the version number, so if there were another reason later to do a no-change rebuild of perl (between now and focal release, basically), it would cause annoying rejects for people following the normal process
[00:24] <vorlon> but I've dumped the autopkgtests because I don't want the queues clogged with them right now
[00:24] <vorlon> and I don't care if they get rescheduled / if this package migrates
[00:25] <mwhudson> vorlon: oh right
[00:25] <vorlon> so anyway, it's out of the way and we might clean it up later
[00:25] <mwhudson> vorlon: yeah i was mainly thinking of the autopkgtest load
[00:26] <mwhudson> but if you have other ways of getting rid of that, yay!
[01:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sg3-utils (eoan-proposed/main) [1.44-1ubuntu1 => 1.44-1ubuntu1.1] (core)
[02:12] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I'd like to apolotize for my earlier actions. I ended up doing what you said and split that file up into separate files for each group of wallpapers. Upload is building.
[02:12] <Eickmeyer> *apologize
[03:26] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: glad we found a solution that worked!  I understand your frustration, and hope you feel better soon
[03:36] <vorlon> bdmurray: is the apport/amd64 autopkgtest failure with glibc 2.31 familiar to you? looks like it could be a real regression but I don't know why without digging<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:47] <vorlon> cpaelzer: chrony autopkgtests regress with new upstream glibc because the testsuite tarball it downloads at test time from an external github url has incompatible prototyping of gettimeofday(); I'm going to badtest this rather than block glibc on it given the externality
[04:26] <vorlon> tjaalton: you synced xkeyboard-config 2.29 dropping the delta for xkb-data-i18n to be a separate package, but ubiquity still build-depends on it; what's the correct solution there?
[04:38] <tjaalton> vorlon: ouch.. i'll check how it's used and revive it if necessary
[04:38] <vorlon> cheers
[04:43] <tjaalton> and thanks for the suggestion, we'll go with bumping the upstream version on the dkms
[04:49] <tjaalton> sounds like the build-dep could be dropped, it's only to make sure the translations are there so kbdnames-maker works
[05:07] <vorlon> doko: why do you say that libc6 can't use a pre-depends on libcrypt1?
[05:13] <vorlon> doko: glibc autopkgtests show failures on ppc64el and s390x that aren't caused by bad triggers
[06:23] <cpaelzer> vorlon: thanks for the ping
[06:23] <cpaelzer> vorlon: there is https://github.com/mlichvar/clknetsim/commit/6e4714b8b1730e865bf0066b898a7787e148eac9
[06:24] <cpaelzer> but there were other reasons to not go forward
[06:24] <cpaelzer> I'll pre-check the tests across arches and if the newer version will work I can give chrony a bump to have the tests work again
[06:25] <cpaelzer> I also had https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chrony/+bug/1863590 open
[06:25] <cpaelzer> need to check if bubblewrap and libcap2 migrated in the meantime
[06:25] <cpaelzer> as that was what it was waiting on
[06:38] <cpaelzer> ok, the old stuff is resovled - going for a test build with a fix for the chrony test ...
[06:48] <cpaelzer> Hiho, it might be just a follow on to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-March/040939.html but plenty of builders are either "disabled" or seem stuck in "cleaning"
[06:48] <cpaelzer> if someone is around who could give that a look that would be great
[06:49] <cpaelzer> thanks wgrant for redirecting me here
[06:49]  * cpaelzer keeps on wrongly asking in #launchpad for this, maybe because of the URL https://launchpad.net/builders ?
[06:49] <cpaelzer> thanks for your patience with me wgrant
[06:49] <wgrant> Hold on
[06:50] <wgrant> That's not what I said :)
[06:50] <wgrant> The Launchpad build farm is an Ubuntu service.
[06:50] <wgrant> er
[06:50] <wgrant> is a Launchpad service
[06:50] <wgrant> But you linked to a thing about autopkgtest issues. Ubuntu's autopkgtest is an Ubuntu service.
[06:51] <cpaelzer> too-many-moving-pieces-exception ... ok, thanks wgrant :-)
[06:51] <wgrant> I'm addressing the Launchpad build farm.
[06:51] <wgrant> But any Ubuntu autopkgtest issue is a) probably unrelated, and b) out of my hands.
[06:51] <cpaelzer> now I see what you meant, yes that part of it is fine
[07:33] <cpaelzer> build queue started to drop fast now - thanks wgrant
[08:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle-5.0 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1013.18] (no packageset)
[08:36] <Mirv> archive team: could you check component mismatches, promote libenchant-2-voikko binary to main and demote enchant source+binaries to universe? it seems my seed change was enough also for the latter to pop up.
[09:17] <doko> vorlon: I'm not saying it can't use it, but it will create a pre-dependency loop
[09:17] <doko> vorlon: did you white list llvm-toolchain-10/i386?
[09:17] <Laney> juliank: what's the tl;dr / current status on whatever happened yesterday?
[09:18] <juliank> Laney: I don't think there were errors in the build for todays images, so we're good so far?
[09:18] <Laney> don't plan on reading scrollback if it's all fixed
[09:19] <Laney> I dunno, you were on it, just checking in :-)
[09:19] <juliank> Laney: We need to remove the check in setup-testbed that prevents building images with libgcrypt1 installed once this is all working
[09:21] <juliank> Laney: I'm looking at today's images now, they seem to be created
[09:25] <juliank> they also do not have libcrypt1 installed
[09:25] <juliank> so I'm happy
[09:28] <doko> vorlon: these tests also fail on amd64. apparently not architecture specific
[09:30] <Laney> juliank: good. now then, could we have stopped this bad thing from migrating?
[09:34] <juliank> Laney: There seems to be a bug in britney somewhere that makes it ignore the Breaks+Replaces libcrypt1 has on libc6
[09:40] <doko> Laney: the real problem was the libxcrypt imported from unstable not having tightened breaks/replaces
[09:42] <Laney> doko: ok, I was wondering if something was missed
[09:42] <Laney> like, no autopkgtests caught this?
[09:54] <juliank> there are two problems
[09:54] <doko> Laney: how? libxcrypt didn't even have autopkg tests
[09:54] <juliank> libxcrypt -ubuntu1 was broken
[09:54] <juliank> missing breaks/replaces
[09:55] <juliank> then libxcrypt ubuntu3 made it in, despite having breaks/replaces in place that should have prevented migration; breaking debootstrap (and keeping back packages on upgrade)
[09:56] <juliank> though libcrypt1 ubuntu1 was fine if you had a separate /usr
[09:56] <juliank> I have it installed, and everything is fine
[09:57] <doko> it was already the debian version which was broken
[09:57] <juliank> because libcrypt1 installs to /usr/lib, and libc6 to /lib
[09:58] <juliank> doko: but only for systems with merged user, so e.g. the buildd images don't care
[09:58] <juliank> because now you had to libcrypt1, but like who cares
[09:59] <doko> are you saying that the location changed?
[09:59] <doko> for libcrypt.so.1?
[09:59] <juliank> doko: yes
[09:59] <doko> ahh
[09:59] <juliank> libc6:amd64: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1
[09:59] <juliank> libcrypt1:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1
[10:01] <Laney> ok, and that is the case for autopkgtest images too?
[10:02] <doko> apparently not? libcrypt.so.1 was removed when libc6 was updated to 2.31
[10:02] <doko> we use the merged usr as default since eoan
[10:09] <Laney> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:09] <Laney> no indeed, it's not that
[10:13] <Laney> doesn't look like glibc's autopkgtests cause libcrypt1 to be installed
[10:13] <Laney> libxcrypt's new tests did fail, but then I guess that wouldn't have been a regression
[10:14] <doko> I added those long after it migrated
[10:17] <Laney> seems like there were two migration incidents
[10:18] <doko> juliank: please update the status of the testers on u-d (ML)
[10:18] <Laney> or it was ubuntu3 that caused problems
[10:18] <juliank> doko: oh
[10:19] <Laney> meh
[10:19] <Laney> none of the tests it triggered caused libcrypt1 to be installed
[10:21] <Laney> don't really have a suggestion apart from figure out why it was allowed to be migrated
[10:48] <LocutusOfBorg> tjaalton, can you please accept hedgewars/bionic again? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/+bug/1857363
[10:48] <LocutusOfBorg> my ppa had backports enabled :/
[10:48] <LocutusOfBorg> and debhelper12 is backports only
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: hedgewars (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-4~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1.0.0-4~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-18.22] (core, kernel)
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [s390x] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-18.22] (core, kernel)
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-18.22] (core, kernel)
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1005.5] (core, kernel)
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-18.22] (core, kernel)
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1005.5] (core, kernel)
[12:38] <xnox> juliank:  are our VMs broken? sudo: /tmp/autopkgtest-run-wrapper: command not found
[12:40] <juliank> xnox: idk
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (focal-proposed/main) [1.3.9-1 => 1.3.9-1build1] (core)
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (focal-proposed/main) [1.3.9-1 => 1.3.9-1build1] (core)
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (focal-proposed/main) [1.3.9-1 => 1.3.9-1build1] (core)
[12:54] <ahasenack> why is debian-installer-udebs ubuntu606 depending on the 5.4.0-14 kernel instead of 5.4.0-18? It was built 14h ago
[12:54] <ahasenack> focal release has <IP_ADDRESS>.17
[12:54] <ahasenack> focal proposed has <IP_ADDRESS>.22
[12:55] <ahasenack> it just missed it?
[13:02] <ahasenack>   * Rebuild against release pocket only + bind9-libs.
[13:02] <ahasenack>  -- Dimitri John Ledkov<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Mon, 09 Mar 2020 17:21:32 +0000
[13:02] <ahasenack> xnox: ^  do you know why it's stuck now? autohinter complains about debian-installer-udebs
[13:13] <ahasenack> I'd guess the old kernel
[13:27] <xnox> ahasenack:  because there were more udebs missing from -proposed that were needed. hence i have rebuild 607 this morning
[13:28] <xnox> so hoping 607 will migrate.....
[13:28] <ahasenack> yay for 607
[13:28] <xnox> doko:  do we need to rebuild gdb for glibc, or update apport gdb/glibc/abort test cases?
[13:29] <doko> xnox: I don't think we did in the past. the only thing I was aware of was valgrind
[13:30] <xnox> test_add_gdb_info_abort (__main__.T)
[13:30] <xnox> add_gdb_info() with SIGABRT/assert() ... WARNING: Please install gdb-multiarch for processing reports from foreign architectures. Results with "gdb" will be very poor.
[13:30] <xnox> WARNING: Please install gdb-multiarch for processing reports from foreign architectures. Results with "gdb" will be very poor.
[13:30] <xnox> FAIL
[13:35] <xnox> hm ok
[13:35] <xnox> doko:  somebody will need to dig into apport test failures then
[13:52] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: done
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hedgewars [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.0-4~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:13] <doko> bdmurray: could you have a look at the apport test failures?
[14:24] <bdmurray> doko: to be clear the apport / glibc ones for Focal?
[14:25] <doko> bdmurray: yes
[14:54] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[15:33] <vorlon> doko: yes, llvm-toolchain-10 is in the whitelist
[15:34] <vorlon> doko: pre-dependency loop: I don't see a pre-dep loop, libcrypt1 only Depends libc6, and a pre-depends + depends is allowed (dpkg knows how to resolve this in the correct order).  Did you try this and run into problems?  Because I'm concerned that upgrade ordering could in some cases cause libc6 to still be unpacked before libcrypt1 and therefore cause libcrypt.so.1 to be missing from the system at
[15:34] <vorlon> critical times
[15:35] <vorlon> doko: we haven't run into this in focal yet because the set of packages we're upgrading is quite small within the devel series, but this could become a problem in dist-upgrades from bionic when apt has to calculate something more significant
[15:35] <vorlon> juliank: ^^ ?
[15:35]  * juliank in meeting
[15:36] <doko> vorlon: see #debian-glibc. afaiu the perl (debconf) usage is optional. so maybe check if the ubuntu delta re-introduces this dependency
[15:37] <vorlon> I don't see how that's relevant to any of the current problems
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupd [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.3.9-1build1]
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupd [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1.3.9-1build1]
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupd [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1.3.9-1build1]
[15:51] <vorlon> doko: the Debian workaround for perl being broken at preinst time, per bug #946599, is to test whether 'perl -e ""' succeeds and if not to skip debconf.  I guess that's ok in that it makes libc6 more resilient, but it still doesn't address problems caused by unpack ordering of packages that are pre-dependencies of virtual packages
[15:51] <vorlon> I think the Debian glibc package has gotten this completely wrong
[16:02] <vorlon> doko: in the current implementation, there is nothing that prevents apt+dpkg from unpacking new libc6 first before libcrypt1, thus removing libcrypt.so.1 from disk; then trying to unpack and configure some other essential package which also needs upgraded; then unpacking libcrypt1.  There are some rules in apt now that make this less *likely*, but a later change in some other essential package
[16:02] <vorlon> could cause this to all fall over, because the libc6+libcrypt1 relationships are not per se correct
[16:02] <vorlon> juliank: ^^ if you want to sanity check me on any of this
[16:11] <xnox> juliank:  vorlon: i think that libcrypt1 should conflict with older libc6 because of the undeclared file conflict between libc6 & libcrypt1. dpkg does not notice that /lib/ conflicts with /usr/lib thus old libc6 must be removed, before new libcrypt1 is unpacked.
[16:12] <xnox> juergh:  vorlon: otherwise removal of old libc6 may remove the new libcrypt1's libcrypt.so.1 from disk
[16:12] <juliank> hmm
[16:12] <xnox> juergh:  unping
[16:13] <xnox> juliank:  vorlon: i was thinking to open an RC bug against libcrypt1 in debian, if there are no conflicts there.
[16:13] <juliank> So if libc6 Pre-Depends libcrypt1, doesn't that solve the issue as well?
[16:13] <juliank> I prefer positive solutions over negative ones
[16:14] <vorlon> xnox: but then the difficulty is that Conflicts means that libc6 MUST be unpacked before the new libcrypt1, which is the opposite of what we hope to accomplish with pre-depends
[16:14] <vorlon> xnox: wouldn't it be better to change libcrypt1 to use the same path as libc6 in the package so we can rely on dpkg for this
[16:14] <xnox> vorlon:  i think using the same path is better.
[16:15] <juliank> libc6 Pre-Depends libcrypt1, libcrypt1 Breaks/Replaces old libc6 and change path ?
[16:15] <xnox> juliank:  vorlon: the predepends & conflicts are for different libc6 versions. We conflict with old libc6, whilst only the new one predepends. imho we need both.
[16:15] <juliank> New libc6 needs to p-d on libcrypt1
[16:15] <juliank> libcrypt1 needs to break/replace old libc6
[16:15] <xnox> breaks/replaces means that it is ok to unpack new libcrypt1 whilst the old libc6 is unpacked on disk, and I am arguing that is not true.
[16:15] <juliank> it cannot conflict with old libc6
[16:16] <juliank> because it does need the old libc6 unpacked
[16:16] <juliank> if it conflicted, we need to unpack the new libc6 first
[16:16] <vorlon> juliank: so you agree with my analysis that we should not rely, the way Debian currently does, on a depends being sufficient to ensure ordering during upgrade?
[16:16] <juliank> which is a loop
[16:16] <xnox> but then removal of old libc6 will remove libcrypt1's library and one is left _without_ any libcrypt.so.1 on disk?
[16:16] <vorlon> and that it should be a pre-depends
[16:17] <vorlon> xnox: no, because pre-depends + breaks means: deconfigure libc6; unpack libcrypt1 which takes over the files; configure libcrypt1; unpack libc6
[16:17] <juliank> xnox: oh dear, that should be solved by changing the path in libcrypt1
[16:17] <xnox> vorlon:  ok
[16:17] <juliank> vorlon: Yes, we do want a pre-depends I think
[16:17] <xnox> vorlon:  juliank: 1) change path in libcrypt1 2) have breaks+replaces in libcrypt1 (already done) 3) add predepends in the new libc6
[16:17] <juliank> vorlon: I'm not 100% sure, but it seems reasonable
[16:17] <xnox> agreed plan of record?
[16:17] <juliank> ack
[16:17] <juliank> +1
[16:17] <vorlon> ok
[16:18] <xnox> do we need bugs in debian about this?
[16:18] <juliank> it would be nice to tell them they're wrong
[16:18] <vorlon> doko: ^^ I am happy to drive the packaging changes for this; are you going to be looking into the glibc autopkgtest regressions?
[16:18] <vorlon> juliank: do you want to join #debian-glibc to talk about this?  It might have more authority coming from the apt maintainer ;){
[16:19] <juliank> I'm not super confident about the pre-depends thing that I could argue why it's the right thing to do
[16:19] <juliank> It just feels like the right thing to do
[16:20] <xnox> juliank:  predepends is the right thing, because libc6 preinst uses libcrypt.so.1 via perl/debconf
[16:20] <juliank> ack
[16:20] <xnox> juliank:  thus preinst expects to have a working perl / libcrypt / libc6
[16:20] <juliank> I concur
[16:20] <vorlon> right, but Debian has worked around that specific thing by making a perl failure non-fatal
[16:21] <vorlon> my concern is unpack ordering of other packages within the Essential closure
[16:21] <juliank> right
[16:21] <vorlon> like, what else could require perl-base, between the time libc6 is unpacked and libcrypt1 is unpacked
[16:21] <juliank> If you have an essential package that needs libcrypt, what happens?
[16:21] <vorlon> yes, perl-base is such an essential package
[16:22] <vorlon> which, the no-change rebuild of perl has added a pre-depends, but that doesn't change the fact that something might try to use perl before the new version has been unpacked
[16:25] <vorlon> doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField :P
[16:26] <xnox> vorlon:  i wonder if we should have done switch to libxcrypt separate from upgrade to 2.31
[16:26] <xnox> too late now
[16:27] <vorlon> xnox: if you mean switching to libxcrypt /before/ upgrading to 2.31, that sounds like it might've been useful, but yeah obviously didn't happen
[16:27] <vorlon> AIUI we can't defer it /beyond/ 2.31
[16:27] <xnox> vorlon:  yeah that. cause we could have done the libxcrypt migration whilst 2.31 was not available yet.
[16:28] <xnox> anyway, next time.
[16:31] <vorlon> seb128: seems the Ubuntu focal daily ISO is over the new size limit again
[16:34] <bdmurray> doko: I uploaded a new version of apport a bit ago
[16:36] <seb128> vorlon, can you remind me where is the limit defined? also that's a discussion we are having with Wimpress this week in the context of langpacks to include so hopefully we have a decision then and can put a limit without having to keep revisiting
[16:36] <vorlon> seb128: buried in the ubuntu-cdimage tree.py code
[16:36] <seb128> k :)
[16:36] <vorlon> size_limit()
[16:36] <seb128> thanks for the pointer
[16:41] <vorlon> Laney: the DNS failure rate on the armhf container runners is still non-zero and annoying.  did you have any more ideas on where to go with that?
[16:41] <vorlon>         for so in $(DD)/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)/*.so; do \
[16:41] <vorlon>                 ln -sf /lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)/$$(basename $$(readlink -f $$s
[16:41] <vorlon> o)) \
[16:41] <vorlon> xnox: ^^ you're welcome
[16:41] <vorlon>                         $$so; \
[16:41] <Laney> vorlon: not really, perhaps we want to loop in someone from the lxd team?
[16:41] <vorlon>         done
[16:41] <vorlon> I thought we had already implemented their recommendations
[16:41] <vorlon> but yeah, probably so
[16:41] <Laney> yes
[16:42] <Laney> but kind of abstractly / remotely
[16:42] <Laney> rather than here's access, go have a good time with it
[16:42] <Laney> I see that one person from this team already has the requisite access :>
[16:45] <vorlon> what the heck, why was http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/linuxinfo/focal/amd64 triggered with all-proposed=1
[16:46] <Laney> lol
[16:46] <Laney> I can guess
[16:46] <vorlon> ?
[16:46] <vorlon> because it matches the 'linux' regexp?
[16:46] <vorlon> :/
[16:47] <Laney> https://git.launchpad.net/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/worker/worker#n427
[16:48] <Laney> linuxyolo
[16:48] <vorlon> doko, xnox: libxcrypt 1:4.4.10-10ubuntu4 uploaded, this moves the library from /usr/lib to /lib from dpkg's perspective which will cause Replaces: to actually DTRT in the dpkg database
[16:49] <vorlon> doko: I'm happy to finagle the pre-depends from glibc, but I don't want to reupload until we have a plan for the regressed autopkgtests
[16:51] <vorlon> autopkgtest [14:32:18]: test run-unit-test: [-----------------------
[16:51] <vorlon> Your machine does not support AVX2.
[16:51] <vorlon> Please compile with SSE4.1 cmake -DHAVE_SSE4_1=1
[16:51] <vorlon> autopkgtest [14:32:18]: test run-unit-test: -----------------------]
[16:51] <vorlon> ....
[16:51] <vorlon> how did this pass once
[17:01] <xnox> vorlon:  we happened to run the test before on a Nova host node that did have avx2
[17:02] <vorlon> I thought there was no avx2 in scalingstack for the foreseeable future
[17:02] <vorlon> :/
[17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle-5.0 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1013.18]
[17:06] <cjwatson> vorlon: more no guaranteed avx2, I think
[17:06] <vorlon> k
[17:08] <cjwatson> We still have some Sandy Bridge in service for instance, which lacks AVX2; but we also have some things like Epycs
[17:34] <wgrant> Right. Scalingstack isn't designed to support live migration, and the available hardware changes, so the available instruction set extensions varies
[17:52] <apw> wgrant, do we not lie to the instances with a common possible subset?
[17:54] <wgrant> apw: we could, but the CPUs range in age by eight years so it would be a bit unfortunate
[18:01] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, would you mind kicking the can on gnupg2/i386 hint=
[18:01] <LocutusOfBorg> please?
[18:02] <LocutusOfBorg> also gpgme1.0
[18:14] <doko> vorlon: I'll look at these tomorrow, they are common across all archs
[18:28] <vorlon> xnox: you retried the rtags test with a non-obvious trigger and it passed once and failed once.  Do you have any insight or is this just a flaky test that needs the button to be hammered?
[18:33] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: the expectation is that people who upload packages that have had one-time hints added for i386 will deal with these regressions as part of their upload, not kick the can
[18:33] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: so unless you tell me that these autopkgtests can never work on i386, please fix them instead
[18:49] <vorlon> E: Essential packages were removed and -y was used without --allow-remove-essential.
[18:49] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ^^ so that's the answer for gnupg, certainly that should be made an unversioned hint for i386
[18:49] <vorlon> oh, or should that be diffutils:any
[18:49] <vorlon> or, you know, should we just not be pointlessly declaring a test dep on an essential package
[18:51] <vorlon> gnupg2 uploaded
[19:26] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks vorlon I tried to fix before asking
[19:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1035.39] (kernel)
[19:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1035.39]
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sg3-utils (bionic-proposed/main) [1.42-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1.42-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)


[03:14] <jose> marcoceppi: hey, do you know if anyone submitted a talk for txlf? CFP closes in less than 2h and I wanna make sure we have a juju talk
[06:22] <stub> lutostag: https://bugs.launchpad.net/postgresql-charm is probably best, but I should see a report just about anywhere you can make one :)
[06:26] <stub> lutostag: Huh. I assumed there might be some minor glitches, but I certainly didn't assume that one :-/
[07:58] <simonklb> after upgrading to 2.0-beta6 my local charm has started complaining about hook missing - I let them be auto-generated by the reactive template and that worked fine before
[07:58] <simonklb> anyone know what changed and what needs to be done for it to find the hooks again?
[07:59] <simonklb> I should add that it seems that it finds the hooks if I create them manually, but then I get "ImportError: No module named 'charms'"
[07:59] <simonklb> So it's like it looks in the root folder of the charm now instead of in ./trusty or whatever
[08:33] <hoenir> simonklb, you tried to debug the hook?
[08:36] <simonklb> hoenir: is it possible to manually execute hooks?
[08:47] <hoenir> I don't hink soo
[08:48] <hoenir> you tried to read the docs about hooks?
[08:49] <simonklb> hoenir: yea, I mean, it hasn't been an issue for the last couple of weeks
[08:49] <simonklb> only now, after updating to a newer version it's starting to act up
[09:17] <wesleymason> simonklb: you can use juju run to manually execute a hook, e.g. juju run --unit {unit_name} 'hooks/hook-name'
[09:19] <wesleymason> or as hoenir said use debug-hooks and run 'hooks/hook-name' inside the tmux session
[09:50] <simonklb> wesleymason: /tmp/juju-exec390172100/script.sh: line 1: hooks/install: No such file or directory
[09:51] <wesleymason> simonklb: that definitely looks like the PWD for hooks has changed :-/
[09:51] <simonklb> yup
[09:51] <simonklb> is there a changelog somewhere?
[09:51]  * wesleymason is still on 1.25.x for current infra so haven't tested 2.0 hooks yet
[09:51] <simonklb> right right
[09:53] <wesleymason> simonklb: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/temp-release-notes
[09:53] <wesleymason> not really a proper changelog though
[09:56] <simonklb> thanks, I'll read it and see if I can find something about the hooks working directory
[09:59] <RAJITH> Hello
[10:02] <RAJITH> I am working on layered charm, simple charm is WORKLOAD-STATE : maintainence  AGENT-STATE :idle and message is Updating apt cache, please let me know what could be issue
[11:29] <stub> RAJITH: If it hangs there, your units likely have a networking or apt issue, like an inaccessible or unavailable apt proxy. Its trying to run 'sudo apt update', and it is failing.
[11:29] <stub> RAJITH: I'd connect to the unit, kill the hook, and try running 'sudo apt update' yourself and debugging from there.
[11:34] <RAJITH> sure will try that
[11:57] <RAJITH> if I tried to add a new machine , agent-state going to pending
[11:59] <RAJITH> have tried this steps: 1. Destroy juju environment, if running. Use --force option if destroy fails.  Uninstall juju  Reboot the system using reboot command reboot     2. Ensure bind9 dns process is stopped, if running  ps -ef | grep named   if named is running: service bind9 stop  To do: ensure that named does not start on reboot, maybe uninstall it  3. Reinstall juju    4. Run the following command:  ifconfig | grep lxcbr0  If lxcbr0
[12:00] <RAJITH> lxc-net; service start lxc-net         Run ifconfig | grep lxcbr0              If lxcbr0 not present, do:            brctl addbr lxcbr0           ifconfig lxcbr0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up  5. Run the following command:          sudo iptables-save | grep lxcbr0          The output should be as follows:  	-A POSTROUTING -o lxcbr0 -p udp -m udp --dport 68 -j CHECKSUM --checksum-fill         -A INPUT -i lxcbr0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport
[13:12] <simonklb> hoenir: wesleymason: I wasn't able to find the cause but works if you deploy from the build folder instead of the root
[13:13] <simonklb> my guess is that they changed something in juju-deployer
[13:15] <wesleymason> simonklb: well juju-deployer definitely hasn't changed, it's been in maintenance mode for a while...but I think local repo got removed, so it would need to be a full path to the charm itself, not the "root" dir, so perhaps before it was deploying $ROOT and not $ROOT/$SERIES/$CHARM
[13:16] <simonklb> something like that
[14:17] <gnuoy> wolsen, I assume you have no major objection to https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-interface-hacluster/pull/1 ?
[14:18] <wolsen> gnuoy: that's correct
[14:18] <tvansteenburgh> ahasenack: re juju-deployer packaging, python-bzrlib should be removed, python-six added
[14:18] <tvansteenburgh> ahasenack: (deps)
[14:20] <ahasenack> tvansteenburgh: ok
[14:20] <gnuoy> wolsen, do you have the power to hit merge?
[14:20] <ahasenack> tvansteenburgh: and tox added
[14:20] <ahasenack> and other stuff
[14:20] <tvansteenburgh> well not really, make test will do that
[14:21] <wolsen> gnuoy: it doesn't appear that I do
[14:21] <gnuoy> wolsen, well thats not right. thanks for looking
[14:22] <wolsen> gnuoy: sure, thanks for looking@ that finally
[14:22] <gnuoy> wolsen, np, thanks for doing all that work
[14:23] <gnuoy> jamespage, can you add thedac, dosaboy and wolsen to the oipenstack-charmers on github please? (Or enable me to)
[14:24] <jamespage> gnuoy, done (enabled you)
[14:24] <gnuoy> thanks
[14:24] <SaltySolomon> hi
[14:26] <gnuoy> wolsen, with any luck you've got an invite to join
[14:26] <wolsen> gnuoy: awesome,thanks
[14:27] <gnuoy> wolsen, np ... any chance of hitting the button on my pull request if you have a sec?
[14:27] <wolsen> gnuoy: I'm logging back in now
[14:27] <gnuoy> \o/
[14:27] <gnuoy> thanks
[14:28] <wolsen> gnuoy: "only those with write permissions"
[14:28] <gnuoy> argh, let me look
[14:30] <wolsen> gnuoy: could be on my end too - let me look
[14:30] <wolsen> gnuoy: it's my mistake
[14:30] <gnuoy> ah, tip top
[14:30] <wolsen> gnuoy: done
[14:30] <gnuoy> thanks
[14:37] <gnuoy> wolsen, tinwood I've created a starter for 10 for enabling management of HA resources in the Openstack layer https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-layer-openstack/pull/4/files . Please feel free to comment on it if you have any thoughts/objections
[14:37] <gnuoy> tinwood (I know the importing is not standards compliant and I'll fix that)
[14:38] <tinwood> gnuoy, thanks for the heads-up; I'm wrangling barbican as we speak.
[14:56] <wolsen> gnuoy: will do - it'll likely be later this week - I'm in Austin this week
[15:54] <beisner> thedac, here's the sentry unit foo as an ex: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314773/3..4/tests/basic_deployment.py
[15:56] <icey> any estimate of when charmhelpers tip will get onto pip?
[16:05] <thedac> beisner: thanks, I'll start consuming that now.
[16:19] <thedac> beisner: gnuoy I added ODL to the mojo specs https://code.launchpad.net/~thedac/openstack-mojo-specs/odl/+merge/294311
[16:19] <gnuoy> thedac, excellent, thanks
[16:20] <cory_fu> kjackal_: Hey, are we dropping the separate execution_mode config option for the Big Top Spark charm and moving to auto-switching to yarn mode based on hadoop.yarn.ready?
[16:21] <cory_fu> (Also, if we keep the config, can we shorten the name a bit?  spark_execution_mode seems unnecessarily long, and somewhat redundant.)
[16:47] <cory_fu> kjackal_: When you have a chance, can you take a look at https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-apache-bigtop-base/pull/2  Those are some of the refactors I had played around with when looking at your Spark charm.  I'm thinking it should let you clean up some of the code  in that charm layer to something along these lines: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16365652/
[16:47] <cory_fu> Anyway, that's all completely untested of course, and was just what I had from the time I spent looking at it yesterday.  Let me know what you think
[17:19] <tvansteenburgh> icey: that has historically been by request. i just took a quick look and there are a number of failing tests.
[17:20] <icey> tvansteenburgh: ok, that's unfortunate; there's stuff that we've been using in the openstack charms for a while that aren't in the pip version, making a migration to layered charms more difficult -_-
[17:22] <tvansteenburgh> icey: i would fix them myself but i just don't have time right now
[17:22] <icey> tvansteenburgh: same boat -_-
[17:34] <aisrael> Any ideas on a way to force destroy a controller in juju 2 beta 6? There's no more --force flag
[17:35] <rye_> How can I remove a service that has a unit in an error state in juju2?
[17:35] <tvansteenburgh> aisrael: do you really want to destroy the controller, or just the model?
[17:36] <aisrael> tvansteenburgh: Either at this point. I think I've found a bug that's preventing destroy-controller, destroy-model, and kill-controller from working
[17:36] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: you need to `juju resolve` the unit first
[17:37] <tvansteenburgh> aisrael: juju destroy-model -y default # or whatever your model name is <- that doesn't work for you?
[17:39] <aisrael> tvansteenburgh: Nope, the model is stuck in destroying
[17:39] <rye_> tvansteenburgh: thanks!
[17:40] <tvansteenburgh> aisrael: well if you just want to keep working, bootstrap a new controller :D
[17:40] <aisrael> tvansteenburgh: Good point. That'll do while I file a bug
[17:40] <rye_> Hmm, upon resolution, it continues onto fail another hook (not unexpected). Is there a way to halt that process so that I can remove it?
[17:41] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: you just have to keep resolving until it finishes what's queued
[17:42] <rye_> tvansteenburgh: fair enough, thanks again
[17:45] <icey> is it possible to have a function execute _after_ every hook run with reactive?
[17:46] <icey> specifically, with reactive+layers
[17:48] <tvansteenburgh> icey: hookenv.atexit
[17:49] <icey> tvansteenburgh: would I att an empty @when to get that to register on each invocation?
[17:49] <icey> also, thanks tvansteenburgh!
[17:50] <tvansteenburgh> icey: i think you could just do it in module scope
[17:51] <icey> got it, the leadership layer has a nice example of atstart :)
[17:57] <zeus`> the'res a way to modify the default image user "ubuntu" to another custom user when doing a juju bootstrap?
[18:05] <gnuoy> thedac, if you get a sec would you mind taking a look at https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-tempest/pull/5
[18:05] <thedac> gnuoy: sure
[18:05] <gnuoy> thanks
[19:20] <LiftedKilt> is maas 2 support merged yet?
[19:21] <LiftedKilt> I thought I saw something about that a bit ago
[19:26] <rick_h_> LiftedKilt: yes, in trunk and will be in the next beta
[19:26] <rick_h_> LiftedKilt: it comes out of feature flag in this next release
[19:26] <LiftedKilt> rick_h_: What's the release timeline on beta7?
[19:27] <rick_h_> LiftedKilt: soooooon :) hopefully next two days
[19:28] <LiftedKilt> haha ok
[19:28] <LiftedKilt> my maas 1.9 has gotten buggy and I wanted to blow it away and move to 2.0
[19:28] <LiftedKilt> gotta wait for integration though
[19:29] <rick_h_> gotcha, yea there's rough work in the beta6 behind a feature flag, but I'd wait the day/two for the next one before jumping
[19:30] <DavidRama> hello folks, trying to deploy the openstack charm but got ceph-mon lxc's in maintenance/executing status since the start (about 3 hours now) any idea why ? Running on Xenial/juju2.0
[19:31] <LiftedKilt> rick_h_: for sure - I'll just hang tight
[19:31] <bdx> DavidRama: I've got the same thing going on here
[19:31] <bdx> icey: ^
[19:32] <bdx> icey: is that a thing right now?
[19:32] <rick_h_> DavidRama: bdx so there's a corner there for lxc because it's going away and should be lxd?
[19:33] <bdx> rck_h_, DavidRama: my bad ... I've been experiencing that issue on lxd
[19:34] <bdx> as well as lxc
[19:34] <DavidRama> same
[19:34] <DavidRama> ceph-mon/0              maintenance     executing   2.0-beta4 3/lxc/0                <IP_ADDRESS>     Bootstrapping MON cluster
[19:35] <bdx> icey, rick_h_, can we get some <3 in that^ area please
[19:36] <icey> bdx: DavidRama is that stable or next?
[19:36] <bdx> stable
[19:36] <rick_h_> bdx: yes, there's work ongoing (one of the reasons we're still beta) to finish pulling lxc and making lxd 100% equiv.
[19:36] <bdx> cs:xenial/ceph-0
[19:37] <rick_h_> bdx: DavidRama what provider is this on?
[19:37] <bdx> rick_h_: lxd
[19:37] <rick_h_> bdx: ah, so this is the issue, you can't do nested containers in lxd by default, you have to use the 'docker' profile lxd offers
[19:37] <rick_h_> bdx: that's got a set of discussions at our sprint next week on how to handle this, as lxd doesn't enable it ootb as a security issue
[19:38] <bdx> oooh, rick_h_: I'm not nesting...
[19:38] <rick_h_> bdx: ? so on lxd you're deploying openstack? or am I misreading?
[19:38] <rick_h_> bdx: is this on maas then? with the lxd container on there?
[19:39] <bdx> rick_h_: `juju bootstrap lxd lxd-test; juju deploy cs:xenial/ceph-0`
[19:39] <rick_h_> bdx: oic, ok. Do this is different than what DavidRama pasted my bad
[19:39]  * rick_h_ is confusing the different issues
[19:39] <bdx> oh my bad
[19:40] <rick_h_> so one at a time, bdx there is love going into it
[19:40] <bdx> nice, thx
[19:40] <rick_h_> DavidRama: can you try beta6? lots of lxd work between beta4 and 6
[19:40] <rick_h_> DavidRama: and nested lxd (on the lxd provider) isn't going to work atm, still more to be done
[19:40]  * rick_h_ thinks that's the summary for the moment
[19:41] <DavidRama> i'm on local provider
[19:42] <bdx> icey, rick_h_: while I've got you both here, whats the status of cs:xenial/{ceph,ceph-osd}-0 on for the MAAS provider?
[19:42] <rick_h_> bdx: so the maas provider will be out of feature flag and available for testing in the next beta release hopefully out by EOW
[19:42] <rick_h_> bdx: so we'll know more then once the charm maintainers can validate/etc
[19:44] <bdx> rick_h_: entirely .... what are we looking at here 2-3 weeks, or 16.07 charm release?
[19:45] <rick_h_> bdx: in between? for final GA of 2.0 I think
[19:45] <rick_h_> bdx: the charm will be there/working with 2.0 beta in a week I'd say, but GA of 2.0 is on the long end of that 2-3 weeks but well before July
[19:48] <bdx> rick_h_: ok, great. So what you are saying, is that ceph deploys  will hopefully be squared away within around a weeks time ...e.g. ceph, ceph-osd will deploy successfully using 16.04 in a weekish?
[19:49] <rick_h_> bdx: I'd hope so, cholcombe is there something else to watch out for besides juju2/maas2? ^
[21:30] <DavidRama> rick_h_ got the same symtom with beta6:
[21:30] <DavidRama> ID                      WORKLOAD-STATUS JUJU-STATUS VERSION   MACHINE PORTS          PUBLIC-ADDRESS MESSAGE
[21:30] <DavidRama> ceph-mon/0              maintenance     executing   2.0-beta6 2/lxc/0                <IP_ADDRESS>     Bootstrapping MON cluster
[21:37] <magicaltrout> kwmonroe:
[21:53] <magicaltrout> marcoceppi: you around?
[21:59] <cory_fu> magicaltrout: I don't think kwmonroe is on IRC, but you can ping him on Telegram (or I can ping him if you need me to)
[21:59] <magicaltrout> its alright thanks cory_fu i figured it out
[21:59] <magicaltrout> is marcoceppi on holiday or something?
[22:00] <cory_fu> I don't think so, but he might be travelling
[22:00] <magicaltrout> bleh
[22:00] <magicaltrout> fair enough
[22:03] <magicaltrout> cory_fu: actually just quickly, can i juju expose hdfs from a remote location?
[22:03] <cory_fu> What do you mean?
[22:03] <cory_fu> Do you mean, use a Juju-deployed HDFS with something outside of Juju?
[22:03] <cory_fu> Or vice-versa?
[22:03] <magicaltrout> yeah so if I have one of your bundles running
[22:04] <magicaltrout> expose HDFS so I can write from outside the juju network
[22:04] <magicaltrout> hdfs://.... uri
[22:07] <cory_fu> magicaltrout: You can, but there are two issues right now.  One is that the port is not opened by default.  That's easy enough to fix with `juju run --service namenode "open-port 8020"; juju expose namenode`
[22:09] <magicaltrout> is that one issue? or both the issues?
[22:10] <cory_fu> The other is that I'm not sure if it listens on the public interface by default.  We had a change put in to make absolutely sure it does, but that's not been released yet.
[22:10] <magicaltrout> ah right, i'm sure I can hack that around
[22:10] <magicaltrout> its only for this afternoons demo
[22:11] <cory_fu> magicaltrout: Here's the change to force it, if it doesn't by default: https://github.com/juju-solutions/jujubigdata/commit/0f0ff1bd98eb06661375c699a4172b3e2b94396b
[22:11] <magicaltrout> ta
[22:11] <cory_fu> You can just add those to the /etc/hadoop/conf/hdfs-site.xml file manually
[22:11] <cory_fu> You'll still need to do the open-port & expose thing, tho
[22:12] <magicaltrout> yup
[22:12] <cory_fu> magicaltrout: Let me know if you need me to ping kwmonroe for  you on telegram to arrange a rendezvous
[22:13] <magicaltrout> it's alright i can normally hear his texan drawl from a distance away ;)
[22:13] <cory_fu> lol, true
[22:31] <rye_> I'm trying to run bundletester, but jujuclient.py is throwing an EnvironmentNotBootstrapped exception. After digging into it a bit, it looks like I'm missing the account['password'] field here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-deployers/python-jujuclient/trunk/view/head:/jujuclient.py#L291
[22:31] <rye_> I do have a password set up, however (as admin@local)
[22:31] <rye_> Any suggestions for what else I can check?
[23:14] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: juju1 or 2?
[23:17] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: make sure you have latest jujuclient from pypi. if you're testing on juju2, you must be bootstrapped before running bundletester, and you need to pass -e $(juju switch)
[23:18] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: also make sure you have latest bundletester from pypi
[23:18] <tvansteenburgh> rye_: if none of those things fixes your problem, pastebin the output
[23:37] <rye_> tvansteenburgh: juju2, and thanks!


[22:28] <darkxst> jbicha, what needs to be done to try and get the theme node crash fix through?
[22:29] <jbicha> darkxst: do you have time to rebase the patch against raring?
[22:30] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh, will do in a minute
[22:30] <jbicha> then I'll upload and ask in #ubuntu-release if it can be accepted now
[22:31] <jbicha> otherwise we'd have to follow sru procedures
[22:34] <darkxst> speaking of sru's my g-s 3.6.3 sru is still waiting!  2 months now
[22:36] <jbicha> yes, it's very frustrating
[22:37] <jbicha> ping one of the people on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing
[22:41] <darkxst> jbicha, http://pastebin.com/yxWRMFY9
[23:20] <jbicha> darkxst: you've experienced something like bug 1167079? you use Adwaita?
[23:21] <jbicha> I'm not seeing it with straight Raring without the GNOME3 PPAs
[23:31] <jbicha> ah I can duplicate it by opening a second document in gedit
[23:38] <Nemosug> Just curious, how is performance compared to kubuntu?


[23:45] <rEvo> Hey, I got some problems installing a program. There is a linux script on the download page, but i don't know what to do, after i downloaded that... This is the link: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php Can someone help me plz?
[23:46] <XXarmory555XX> how do i reinstall ubuntu?
[23:46] <mDemocritus> Swiss73: so once you've got windows working again, format the ubuntu drive and you'll be set
[23:46] <neophyte> notte a tutti :D
[23:46] <claudia_> Hi. When I run a program, how can I see which other programs and/or libraries it calls? Like a subprocess tree?
[23:46] <mDemocritus> XXarmory555XX: boot off the install cd, and install it....
[23:46] <Swiss73> mDEmocritus: how do i do that, format the ubuntu drive?
[23:46] <semi-newb> is there a simple way to restore the contents of a deleted /boot directory? can I just reinstall the kernel from synaptic?
[23:46] <lelemom> neophyte notte
[23:46] <XXarmory555XX> ok ty
[23:46] <slypheed> claudia_: pstree
[23:46] <djjd> is there a key to make a window you are in transparent?
[23:47] <Nith> djjd: hold alt and use the mouse wheel if you have one
[23:47] <charles__> rEvo, just open a terminal, cd to the directory where you downloaded it, and then type ./the_script_name
[23:47] <Rageon> whats a text editor i can use?
[23:47] <mDemocritus> Swiss73: for the last time, this is the ubuntu channel... windows questions should be directed towards ##windows or google
[23:47] <rEvo> ok
[23:47] <Nith> Rageon: gedit
[23:47] <silencedbear> http://pastebin.com/d79eb050e elpargo
[23:47] <soundray> semi-newb: no, you'd have to restore it from a backup
[23:47] <Rageon> ta
[23:47] <rEvo> thanks charles
[23:47] <djjd> thanks
[23:47] <Nith> np
[23:47] <mDemocritus> Swiss73: try Disk Management
[23:47] <Nith> my personal favorite is windowskey+n
[23:47] <Swiss73> okay
[23:48] <bozza> unop: i need to reinstall xp .. how badly i dont want to ,, while i am bored i want to play pinball .. how do i get the console up
[23:48] <unop> rEvo, you'll need to make the script executable first -- chmod +c ./scriptname
[23:48] <DragonLotus> hey all I just removed the proprietary drivers for my radeon card.  I don't know what to do at this point.  I started trying to get direct rendering to work... and now I'm having trouble even getting things to display properly.
[23:48] <SubOne> ty unop
[23:48] <destructar> « /msg ubotu etiquette »
[23:48] <destructar> lol
[23:48] <stefg> !lol
[23:48] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[23:48] <claudia_> slypheed: tnx
[23:48] <unop> rEvo, err sorry -- chmod +x ./scriptname
[23:49] <Horus__> see you all, bye bye
[23:49] <bozza> anyone know how to get the console and find pinball while installing xp ?
[23:49] <semi-newb> soundray: the point is, i accidentally deleted my backup. is there no way to get it back? i'm running the system now and i don't want this to be the last time my computer works.
[23:49] <unop> bozza, we don't support windows XP in here, you should know that
[23:50] <bozza> well . some one might know .. oh well .. ill have to do something else while installing it
[23:50] <soundray> DragonLotus: in your /etc/X11 directory, you should have various xorg.conf backups. Have a look and copy one back to xorg.conf that has 'Driver "ati'' in it instead of 'Driver "fglrx"'
[23:50] <SubOne> my sound still isnt working, wine killed it :(
[23:50] <Carbonflux> freenode has a good ##windows channel, there is not reason to ask windows questions here.
[23:50] <mDemocritus> here goes again.... i'm having issues with a supposedly usb mass storage class device not persisting in /dev... the dmesg logs show detection and assignment to /dev/sdb 1 and 2, but when i try to mount it, cat it, or fdisk it, /dev/sdb doesn't exist... it assumes write through for drive caching, i have a feeling that has something to do with it... i've tried this with ubuntustudio and knoppix on x86, as well as xubuntu dapper on ppc
[23:50] <unop> semi-newb, you could install the linux-image and grub packages, it ought to work
[23:51] <semi-newb> unop: thanks. I'll try that
[23:51] <soundray> semi-newb: I'm sorry, you got yourself into a bad situation. Boot a live CD, do a backup and reinstall your Ubuntu.
[23:51] <ijustam> is there a method of making gif animations short of gimp?
[23:51] <ijustam> i have 72 frames and doing that by hand will suck
[23:51] <stefg> mDemocritus: i'd look at udev and dbus/hal
[23:51] <unop> semi-newb, actually, reinstall them  - sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image grub
[23:51] <Azure_Tide> heyas -> my friend said after I finish defagging (twice, reccomended from here) that I shuold go do an error check
[23:52] <soyeur> there are websites that allow you to make .gif images
[23:52] <Azure_Tide> before i partition
[23:52] <stefg> !udev rules | mDemocritus
[23:52] <ubotu> mDemocritus: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.
[23:52] <soyeur> just do a google search, ijustam
[23:52] <Carbonflux> ijustam, there are some plugins that make that a lot easier in gimp
[23:52] <Azure_Tide> is that all necessary before I partition to install 7.10 ubuntu?
[23:52] <eduardo> stefg, im in live cd now, any suggestions_
[23:52] <soundray> semi-newb: for unop's advice to work, you'd also have to recreate /boot/grub/menu.lst (reinstalling won't do that for you)
[23:52] <Carbonflux> I used gimp to do this one: http://www.carbonflux.org/GrayMan_bow2.gif
[23:53] <Carbonflux> from a avi file
[23:53] <DragonLotus> soundray: thanks will do
[23:53] <ijustam> oh really?
[23:53] <Boohbah> Azure_Tide: why not 8.04?
[23:53] <ijustam> i have an mpeg i want to convert to a gif
[23:53] <stefg> eduardo: first mount your installed system
[23:53] <unop> soundray, doesn't the grub postinst script set that up?
[23:53] <mDemocritus> stefg: you think that would work? the stupid multitracker doesn't show in /dev, but other usb disks work fine
[23:53] <Carbonflux> ijustam, just need to install all the right plugins, take a look at gimp.org also
[23:53] <soundray> semi-newb: also, the /boot/initrd-...gz is fairly specific to your system
[23:54] <Azure_Tide> boohbah > i've never used linux before, and this is my laptop I use for everything.  8.04 doesn't have a stable ver til april 24th right?
[23:54] <DragonLotus> soundray: restarting
[23:54] <Carbonflux> ijustam, also in the ubuntu repo's if you search for "gimp" using symantac there is a video/animation package you can install
[23:54] <soundray> unop: I don't think so... but I may be wrong.
[23:54] <eduardo> stefg, where do i mount my hd to?
[23:54] <stefg> mDemocritus: so it's no USB stick, but some player? might just be not compatible
[23:54] <ijustam> Carbonflux: yeah i have that one
[23:54] <Aval0n> so when apt-get dist-upgrade is finished your at gutsy?
[23:54] <Carbonflux> ah ok
[23:54] <Aval0n> you're
[23:54] <IlSanto> hi all
[23:54] <mDemocritus> stefg: but it's supposedly mass storage class
[23:54] <Sinnerman> nautilus has stopped making thumbnails for my pictures, why is that?
[23:54] <mDemocritus> stefg: and works on windows...
[23:55] <soundray> unop: no -- it only runs update-grub, which needs at least a basic one in place
[23:55] <SubOne> how do i restore my sound after wine killed it
[23:55] <eduardo> stefg, where do i mount my hd to_
[23:55] <stefg> eduardo: you should see in it 'Computer' and clicking on it will mount it some where in /media ... the interesting part is where it gets mounted. What ubuntu version do you use ?
[23:55] <unop> soundray, /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub.postinst calls update-grub which generates menu.lst (see the manpage)
[23:55] <Shai> Hey all, I'm trying to blacklist a module but, it continues to load. I've added entries to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and I've created a file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-smsc_ircc2 but it continues to load. Any suggestions?
[23:55] <mDemocritus> stefg: i haven't taken a look at the udev logs though... thanks for the idea
[23:55] <jurgen> suche was zum poppen
[23:55] <Carbonflux> ijustam, it can be a pain, I decided to generate all my animations in avi files even tho I am using a linux tool chain because of the conversion tools, when I was looking around at options for building a tool chain I did see a few command line tools that should do what you want, but I don't recall the details now.
[23:56] <stefg> mDemocritus: 'works on windows' means nothing
[23:56] <ijustam> it might be easier just to use imagemagick to convert my jpg frames to gif then use gifsicle..
[23:56] <eduardo> stefg. 7.10
[23:56] <SeanInSeattle> Has anyone else noticed that dependencies are an issue with installing a given program in Ubuntu / Linux?
[23:56] <Shai> SeanInSeattle Haven't seen that so far.
[23:56] <mDemocritus> stefg: lol i'm aware... but it should, since there's a standard for USB Mass Storage devices....
[23:56] <Carbonflux> SeanInSeattle, thats a good thing
[23:57] <SeanInSeattle> Carbonflux:  Why is that a good thing?
[23:57] <stefg> mDemocritus: so you're gonna say that it's a standards compliant device
[23:57] <Carbonflux> because its better then downloading a app and having it just crash
[23:57] <eduardo> stefg, im using ubuntu 7.10
[23:57] <artfullylost> So Hardy Heron releases at the tail end of April, correct?
[23:57] <mDemocritus> stefg: nah... but it says it is....
[23:57] <Shai> So, anyone know hwo to get a module to stop loading at boot?
[23:58] <SeanInSeattle> I mean, I resolved the issue with dependencies, but it was a 6 step process... argh.
[23:58] <mDemocritus> stefg: any other ideas.... you think changing the drive caching might help?
[23:58] <Carbonflux> Linux is fairly transparent about dependencies I like that.
[23:58] <stefg> eduardo: so open 'Computer' you should see your installed ubuntu partition. click on it and see if a window pops up showing the content
[23:58] <ijustam> ugh, the imagemagick that comes in the repos is kinda lacking
[23:58] <Piffer> Whats a good URL where I get get some Ubuntu shirts/glasses/stickers etc? (Not Jinx/thinkgeek)
[23:58] <nottnott> could someone help me with PHP/running SH
[23:58] <IlSanto> raga ma... ho ubuntu 7.10 quindi con compiz, lo ho abilitato installato il compizsettingmanager.. tutt'ok attivo il cubo e funziona... ma non riesco a vedere il cubo ma solo le facce dei quattro desktop premendo freccia ctr+alt+dx con ctr+alt+down mi fa vedere un desktop affianco all'altro e non il cubo..... qualche idea ?
[23:58] <eduardo> stefg, yes i can see the content now, but i dont know what to fix
[23:58] <stefg> mDemocritus: is taht ntfs formatted ?
[23:58] <steve__> morgen
[23:58] <Boohbah> Shai: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[23:58] <mDemocritus> stefg: nope... FAT32
[23:58] <eduardo> stefg, i had troubles with gtk lib, but i reinstalled it, and it didnt work either
[23:58] <soundray> SeanInSeattle: that's not normally the case. If you 'sudo apt-get install app', it'll normally pull in the required dependencies in one step.
[23:58] <Carbonflux> SeanInSeattle, thats linux tho, its not a 1:1 map with "user friendly" OS's regardless of the press, its the price you pay for control
[23:59] <valros> Any insight into this problem please, im running the live CD on a dell laptop, no sound. Is this a known problem or would this continue.
[23:59] <Carbonflux> ya what soundray said
[23:59] <DragonLotus> Hey soundray, I rebooted and I still recieved the error about it not being able to find my video card and me having to pick it manually.
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> How do I get a new IP address from a dhcp server? Thanks!
[23:59] <Shai> Boohbah, I did, it still loads. Also blacklisted anything that was dependent on it.
[23:59] <stefg> eduardo: open a terminal, run 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the result to !pastebin
[23:59] <stefg> !paste | eduardo
[23:59] <ubotu> eduardo: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:59] <eduardo> stefg ok
[23:59] <nottnott> could someone help with PHP running a SH file?
[23:59] <DragonLotus> nottnott: Sure
[23:59] <unop> nottnott, ask in #php
[23:59] <nottnott> thanks