[00:00] <[snake]> oh. well, I am trying to install "liberte linux"
[00:00] <KeyboardNotFound> is there any plugin for weather display on desktop or task bar ?
[00:00] <ikonia> [snake]: we ran tests through the command line and nautils to see if one did it and the other didn't, both did
[00:00] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: ok let me try
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: or you can copy the deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives    then you can use apt-get and it should use the cache :)
[00:00] <bkc_> ikonia: you're saying that FUbuntu actually removed support for executing stuff from an externally mounted drive? as security?? o.O
[00:00] <[snake]> ikonia, I see hm... I guess I will need to do the windows setup.bat then
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: FUbuntu ?
[00:01] <bkc_> Ubuntu ;)
[00:01] <bkc_> wrong channel and so forth :P
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: no more/less than what I said
[00:01] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: ok I will try that one too. Thanks
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: someone had this problem a few days ago
[00:01] <bkc_> aah
[00:01] <fearphage> iceroot: can i provide any other output to help you debug?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: there is fuduntu
[00:02] <bkc_> ikonia: I'm guessing vfat/ntfs there too :P
[00:02] <ikonia> bkc_: the tests / results didn't change when we used gui/shell, fat/ntgs/ext3 or 4
[00:02] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: ^.^
[00:02] <ikonia> on all occasions the execute bit was removed
[00:02] <bkc_> ikonia: that sounds retarded (not that I'm surprised)
[00:02] <ikonia> please hold back on that word
[00:02] <ikonia> bkc_: it was quite a surprise, I wondered if it was apamour, or something like that, but couldn't find any reference to it
[00:03] <ikonia> it was most frustrating
[00:03] <ikonia> i've not had chance to try it myself locally and do some more research
[00:03] <KeyboardNotFound> is there any plugin for display weather on desktop ?
[00:04] <bkc_> KeyboardNotFound: depends on window manager (gnome, kde, xfce) :)
[00:04] <bkc_> (ooh, almost forgot unity)
[00:04] <KeyboardNotFound> my window manager is xfce
[00:05] <[snake]> KeyboardNotFound, lol, keyboard not detected: press any key to continue.
[00:05] <bkc_> [snake]: press F2 to continue ;)
[00:05] <[snake]> lol
[00:07] <Bob_Dole> So, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iMac, but the optical drive is busted, and it won't boot (successfully) boot from MBR/BIOS-Based installers. It's also an older iMac with 32bit EFI, so the 64bit EFI bootloaders on the 64bit images don't work either, is there any way to get 32bit ubuntu with a 32bit EFI bootloader?
[00:08] <bkc_> Bob_Dole: Disk Utility can modify the image to be EFI-bootable :)
[00:08] <bkc_> then you'll need a 32bit EFI bootloader :)
[00:08] <bkc_> (rEFIt or rEFInd)
[00:08] <freshstart> if i store all my packages into a cd with APTonCD, can i add more packages to the future?
[00:08] <FUZxxl> Hello!
[00:08] <bkc_> I've also heard good things about gummiboot :)
[00:09] <bkc_> freshstart: need more info, single/multi-session CD? multiple CDs? add more to an existing ISO before burning it?
[00:09] <bkc_> etc.
[00:09] <bkc_> FUZxxl: o/
[00:10] <freshstart> bkc_: single cd, add more after burn it
[00:11] <bkc_> freshstart: make it multi-session when you burn it. or don't close the session (now google the rest ^.^)
[00:11] <[snake]> I'm sad :( perhaps something like cp -keep-permissions -recursive -v or soemthing?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Bob_Dole: I can't help you now but I may be able to later today or tomorrow. Also try #grub.
[00:12] <bkc_> [snake]: what are you trying to do? :)
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc_: why you mean by multi-session?
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc: do
[00:12] <bkc_> freshstart: google multi-session CD :)
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc_: google isnt my friend now i divorced with him :D
[00:13] <[snake]> bkc_, I'm trying to install liberte linux, and they do it a lot differently than most.
[00:13] <freshstart> bkc_: with it :D whatever
[00:13] <[snake]> (trying to install onto a usb
[00:13] <bkc_> [snake]: different?
[00:14] <freshstart> bkc_: okay wish me luck :D
[00:14] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> hello
[00:14] <freshstart> bkc_: good ofc
[00:14] <bkc_> [snake]: 1) tar --keep-permissions ... 2) move/copy tar 3) untar --keep-permissions 5) profit
[00:14] <bkc_> freshstart: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=multi-session+cd
[00:14]  * freshstart takes the risk :D
[00:15] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> whats the name of the non related ubuntu channel ?
[00:15] <[snake]> bkc_, what you have to do, is format the drive, copy the "liberte" folder onto the drive which you want to install to, and then on windows run setup.bat, and on linux: setup.sh. but setup.sh cannot be executable. no wonder the readme only says to use the .bat
[00:15] <freshstart> bkc_: haha :D
[00:15] <[snake]> bkc_, well that is an interesting solution
[00:15] <[snake]> I think I'll try it.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> HOBOTOMTOMGPS: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu
[00:15] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> thank u
[00:15] <bkc_> freshstart: LMGTFY <3 ;)
[00:15] <freshstart> bkc_: yeah i didnt knew that
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> HOBOTOMTOMGPS: or #fedora and so forth ;)
[00:16] <freshstart> bkc_: okay then play a song for me http://elgoog.im/guitar/
[00:16] <jrib> bkc_: 4) ???
[00:17] <[snake]> I think rsync is good for copying files and keeping permissions
[00:17] <freshstart> bkc_: i forgot i have dvd+r
[00:18] <bjrohan> Hey all, I have a new laptop with Windoze 8, and 12.10 dual boot. It works quite well. There are only a few times that I need to use Windows 8 to help others with issues. Is this a case where using a virtual machine would be appropriate? i have never run one before, how does it work?
[00:18] <davidokner> Hi!
[00:18] <freshstart> davidokner: hi
[00:18] <jrib> !virtualize | bjrohan
[00:18] <jrib> bjrohan: depends on what you do in windows
[00:18] <bkc_> freshstart: same thing there, multi-session DVD :)
[00:18] <bkc_> freshstart: or just don't close the session :)
[00:19] <jrib> !virtualizer | bjrohan
[00:19] <davidokner> I'm looking for Ubuntu Laptops for under $400.
[00:19] <davidokner> I saw the Dell Vostro 2520.
[00:19] <freshstart> bkc_: but i have dvd+r this doesnt support the burning twice does it?
[00:19] <davidokner> Are there problems with the Dell Vostro 2520 wireless?
[00:19] <bjrohan> jrib: Not much, literally I started my laptop, shut it down got into bios changed settings loaded Ubuntu on. W I typically just use it to do webinars, my company uses join.me, and it won't run in Linux (although I suppose I could install wine, but on my previous laptop wine ran slow)
[00:20] <bkc_> freshstart: sure it does, just that you can't burn over the stuff that is already on there :/
[00:20] <bkc_> freshstart: but you can still add to it, IF you either use multi-session or don't close the session!!
[00:20] <bkc_> (not angry ;P)
[00:20] <bjrohan> jrib: My last computer I only had Ubuntu, with a windows desktop for backup I used maybe 2x/month
[00:20] <jrib> bjrohan: well it seems like if you can decent performance in wine or in a virtualized windows install for what you do, that would be more convenient.  Give it a try and see
[00:20] <[snake]> dangit
[00:20] <freshstart> bkc_: get it
[00:21] <[snake]> it still doesn't work. I OWN MY FLASHDRIVE!!!
[00:21] <[snake]> oh wait
[00:21] <[snake]> i forgot to repartition it lol
[00:21] <bkc_> [snake]: first of... ext2-4 or vfat? :P
[00:21] <bkc_> or! just chmod 0755 start.sh !
[00:21] <[snake]> i think probably ext3
[00:21] <[snake]> oh
[00:22] <bkc_> sets the exec-bit :)
[00:22] <bkc_> or chmod o+x start.sh (Owner add eXec)
[00:22] <bjrohan> jrib: I would think it would run quick enough. What are the benefits of a VM? My understanding is it lets you run the entire other OS in a Ubuntu app window.
[00:22] <[snake]> nope bkc_
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: or:  chmod +x filename
[00:22] <jrib> bjrohan: the benefit is you don't need to reboot :)  Your understanding is correct
[00:23] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: sure, but that sets it globally (ugw)
[00:23] <[snake]> I think I give up. I will just sneak into my sisters room and run the bat instead lol.
[00:23] <bkc_> (0755 does that too, but meeh)
[00:23] <bkc_> lol
[00:23] <crk> hi, I'm using XChat on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, in the Gnome Classic (no effects) Login Session
[00:24] <crk> does anyone know how one might minimize XChat to the tray?
[00:24] <usr13> bjrohan: Benefits are that both OS's are running at the same time.
[00:24] <bkc_> crk: in the settings for XChat?
[00:24] <[snake]> crk, I assumed the tray was eternally ruined.
[00:24] <crk> bkc_: It used to go into the tray automagically in LXDE (Earlier using Lubuntu)
[00:24] <crk> now it isn't
[00:24] <d1gital> any recommendation for a tiny secure vpn (any protocol) client?
[00:24] <bkc_> riight, Unity doesn't have a tray ?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> crk: doesn't the system tray need adding in gnome-panel ?
[00:25] <bjrohan> jrib: Once I install the VM, then install the O/S via the VM, the start up of the O/S is about the same as starting the computer? or is it considerably quicker? What is necessary to install Windoze 8 in a virtual machine? Lastly, what in your opinion is the best program to use for a virtual machine? VMware, Qemu etc?
[00:25] <crk> bkc_: I'm not sure... I'm avoiding Unity like the plague
[00:25] <crk> I'm using the fallback mode
[00:25] <[snake]> crk, me too!
[00:25] <bkc_> d1gital: openvpn?
[00:25] <crk> for my own sanity
[00:25] <bkc_> d1gital: define "tiny" :)
[00:25] <[snake]> :P
[00:25] <crk> [snake]: aren't we all :D
[00:25] <bkc_> crk: hehe, i3-wm here :)
[00:25] <[snake]> crk, nah some people like it :P
[00:25] <const_antine> Is there any reason why external hdd with usb interface would not be mistaken for usb flash drive?
[00:26] <crk> I wonder...
[00:26] <const_antine> on the OS side
[00:26] <crk> It might be good for people out for some eye candy
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> crk: if you like the Gnome2 smell, I recommend XFCE
[00:26] <crk> but when you want pure functionality
[00:26] <crk> ActionParsnip: I like XFCE
[00:26] <crk> I've used it in the past
[00:26] <crk> trouble is, I have a dual screen setup
[00:26] <crk> nVidia TwinView
[00:26] <bkc_> const_antine: nope, same usb-driver/interface...
[00:26] <d1gital> bkc_: <1MB, openvpn is too big.
[00:26] <crk> the only Ubuntu flavour that seems to work the way I want it to
[00:26] <crk> is the standard Ubuntu
[00:26] <crk> Lubuntu just didn't understand dual screens properly
[00:26] <bkc_> d1gital: why the extreme preference? :)
[00:26] <crk> lots of bugs
[00:27] <d1gital> bkc_: necessity
[00:27] <bkc_> crk: try a tiler! like i3wm, awesome & friends :)
[00:27] <crk> okay, bkc_ : I'll put it down for exploration :)
[00:27] <bkc_> crk: once you go Tiling you never go back :D
[00:28] <jrib> bjrohan: You can basically pause a virtual machine and resume from where you paused so startup time doesn't really matter.  Vbox was pretty snappy about that last time I tried.  Virtualbox seems to be fairly well-supported.  It may be the easiest to use imo.  I don't know if there's anything special you need to do for windows 8.  Maybe ask #vbox
[00:28] <jrib> !vbox | bjrohan
[00:28] <d1gital> notion ftw!
[00:28] <bkc_> d1gital: then sorry, no idea :)
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> crk: use an xorg.conf and any desktop will :)
[00:28] <moon`> how do you find out the version of a program, say I want to find out what version of wine I have, or what version of chrome I have installed via terminal?
[00:28] <crk> ActionParsnip: trust me... I know my way around conf files
[00:28] <crk> when I say LXDE was screwing things up, I really mean it
[00:28] <crk> :(
[00:28] <crk> the monitors were both working
[00:28] <crk> but the Lxpanels
[00:28] <crk> were not showing the way they should have
[00:28] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: proper dual screen setup will have separate workspaces between screens thou :)
[00:28] <scotty531> Will someone help me sort out my apache, I keep getting a 403 after adding an alias. https://gist.github.com/4393472
[00:29] <crk> if I'd full-screen a movie in VLC/mplayer
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> crk: you don't have to use lxpanel. I don't :)
[00:29] <bjrohan> Thanks jrib I will give it all a look
[00:29] <Bubo> How do I create a user on my ubuntu vps that will have specific limit only to 1 folder and can read/write files but can't execute them?
[00:29] <const_antine> Stupid Sony
[00:29] <crk> it left a layer of unused space
[00:29] <const_antine> making naive media players
[00:29] <crk> ActionParsnip: I agree... nothing is un-doable on *nix
[00:29] <crk> which is why we all love it :)
[00:29] <crk> lets say I was lazy :P
[00:30] <bkc_> Bubo: could you explain that more detailed? :)
[00:30] <crk> and took the "easy" way out -- wiped out lubuntu and replaced it with ubuntu
[00:30] <Bubo> Ok, let me try
[00:30] <crk> moon`: how about dpkg-query -l | grep wine
[00:30] <crk> should give you the version details
[00:31] <Bubo> I need to create a user that my friends can use to learn "terminal" and "ftp (PSFTP)"
[00:31] <moon`> okay, this may sound stupid crk but can you explain to me what each part of that command means?
[00:31] <Bubo> So they should have access to 1 folder with that user, can use: mkdir, cd, vi, touch but they can't execute scripts (for example)
[00:31] <bkc_> Bubo: just create a regular user :)
[00:31] <Bubo> With a regular user, they can mess up my server, can't they?
[00:31] <Bubo> If some of them is more experienced
[00:31] <bkc_> Bubo: don't give him sudo-access, otherwise he can mess stuff up :)
[00:32] <Bubo> Ok then, I'll do that.
[00:32] <Bubo> Thanks
[00:32] <bkc_> well... he can always mess it up...
[00:32] <bkc_> as simple as writing :(){:()&:()} in a terminal...
[00:32] <Bubo> They can use SSH to connect - several people on 1 account?
[00:32] <crk> moon`: would it be okay to PM you and explain? spare others who know it already?
[00:32] <bkc_> DON'T!
[00:32] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: hi again with the repository adding thing.
[00:32] <bkc_> Bubo: yes
[00:32] <moon`> crk: absolutely
[00:32] <Bubo> What is :(){:()&:()}
[00:32] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: it didn't worked, the folders are not being readed properly
[00:32] <bkc_> Bubo: don't do it... fork-bomb :P
[00:33] <Bubo> Ok xD
[00:33] <Bubo> bkc_, so how do I put more restrictions on that user? Like they can only access /home/user nothing else
[00:33] <bkc_> basically forks the process into a new process that calls itself recursivelly :)
[00:33] <somsip> !danger
[00:33] <bkc_> somsip: thanks :)
[00:33] <const_antine> "Some USB devices may not work with this
[00:33] <const_antine> player.
[00:33] <const_antine> " -- Sony SMP-N200 manual
[00:34] <const_antine> gods are cruel
[00:34] <Bubo> bkc_, so how do I put more restrictions on that user? Like they can only access /home/user and nothing else.. any idea?
[00:34] <somsip> !chroot | Bubo
[00:34] <bkc_> Bubo: you can run 'chmod -R w-rwx /' and hope to god that doesn't break anything :P
[00:34] <somsip> Bubo: ignore that - wrong one
[00:34] <bkc_> indeed
[00:34] <bkc_> !chmod
[00:35] <Bubo> So change the folder permission to read and write but not execute
[00:35] <Bubo> ?
[00:35] <bkc_> w-rwx == World remove Read,Write,eXecute-flags
[00:35] <studious> Bubo: remove that user from all groups, create a new group to which only that user is a member of
[00:35] <cjae> playdeb dead or still broken
[00:36] <Bubo> studious I will try that
[00:36] <bkc_> Bubo: do what studious said, more sane and less breakage :P
[00:36] <scotty531> Will someone help me sort out my apache, I keep getting a 403 after adding an alias. https://gist.github.com/4393472
[00:37] <ti89breh> hi, I would like to make this arrangement: current hard drive partition layout: [Unallowicated-500gb] a then a big partition with these in it: [[ubuntu-60gb] [ubuntu swap]] and i want to do this: [ubuntu] [unallowacated] [ubuntu swap]. will splitting up the swap and main ubuntu partition from inside the ligical partition (i thinks that's what its called) damage anything?
[00:38] <ti89breh> and then i will extend the ubuntu main partition to consume the unallowacted space
[00:38] <kvothetech> now
[00:38] <kvothetech> no
[00:39] <kvothetech> you can do that though you may want to use lvm of
[00:39] <kvothetech> or gpt not MBR
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> scotty531: is the folder executable?
[00:39] <scotty531> yes
[00:39] <usr13> ti89breh: I suggest, swap 8G, / 30G, and the rest for /home
[00:40] <ti89breh> usr13: sorry?
[00:40] <usr13> ti89breh: (whether inside an extended partition or not)
[00:40] <kvothetech> ti89breh: my answer was to you
[00:40] <ti89breh> ohh ok kvothetech so no harm done then?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> scotty531: what is the output of:  ls -la /media/scotty531/60B885E9B885BDD2 | head -n 2
[00:41] <kvothetech> no though like I said may want to look at got
[00:41] <ti89breh> usr13: so ubuntu makes the swap and the main ubuntu partition inside a thing called a extended partition, not a logical parition, and it's ok to break up the swap from the main one
[00:41] <kvothetech> yes
[00:41] <kvothetech> you can do that
[00:41] <usr13> ti89breh: As you can see, there are a number of options, it just depends on your usage, (what you want to do with your PC).
[00:41] <scotty531> ActionParsnip: total 109
[00:41] <scotty531> drwx------  1 scotty531 scotty531  4096 Dec 27 22:47 .
[00:42] <ti89breh> i am very sorry i am confused
[00:42] <ti89breh> i want everything on one partition
[00:42] <freshstart> how can i see the mounted drives in dolphin?
[00:42] <usr13> ti89breh: These are all separate partitions, (no patter if they are inside an extended or logical parition or if they are primarys).
[00:43] <usr13> ti89breh: Why do  you want everything on one partition?
[00:43] <ti89breh> usr13: ohh ok great thanks a ton so i can manipulate them and their position does not matter
[00:43] <ezio> i'm running find but it's only finding exact matches
[00:43] <ezio> anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[00:44] <ezio> find -iname *.gp
[00:44] <ti89breh> usr13: i am out of space and I want to extend into unallowacted but I can't do so backwards (to the right) so I need to move the partition then extend left
[00:44] <usr13> ti89breh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[00:44] <usr13> ti89breh: What do you have now?  sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[00:44] <PJSingh5000> ezio, try find -name "*.gp*
[00:45] <ezio> ah thanks
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ezio: or:  sudo updatedb; locate *.gp*
[00:45] <usr13> ti89breh: Probably the easiest/best thing to do is create a new partition for /home/
[00:45] <ezio> ActionParsnip, i want to check mounted drives too
[00:46] <usr13> ti89breh: ... and let /  have the old one.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ezio: i believe locate will check that, unless told not to
[00:46] <alcapraw1> exit
[00:47] <ti89breh> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/gMYWR.jpg
[00:47] <usr13> ti89breh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:49] <ti89breh> usr13: so all of /home's files is on another partition?
[00:49] <usr13> ti89breh: Just use the 385G partition for /home/   See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[00:49] <usr13> ti89breh: yes
[00:49] <ti89breh> oh ok and not the last link but the one before it is the instructions for that usr13 ?
[00:50] <davidokner> Is the dell 2520 the best ubuntu laptop under $400?
[00:50] <ti89breh> will my current option work though usr13 ?
[00:50] <usr13> ti89breh: Yea, I'm sorry:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:50] <usr13> ti89breh:     yea     this one   ^^^^^
[00:51] <ti89breh> ok and will my pending operations be successful though ? I think I will take your suggestion though seems easy enough
[00:52] <usr13> ti89breh: Sure
[00:52] <lorddelta> Hi all, I'm having real bad problems with DNS going utterly whacko on my ubuntu desktop...
[00:52] <usr13> lorddelta: Why, what's it doing?
[00:52] <lorddelta> looks like I managed to get through, but would anyone be able to help me diagnose the problem?
[00:52] <ti89breh> thanks a ton usr13
[00:52] <lorddelta> usr13: kept on failing dns whenever I was running updates
[00:52] <lorddelta> or using ssl of any kind
[00:53] <usr13> lorddelta: See my PM
[00:53] <lorddelta> e.g. I would have been browsing successfully, and then poof, if anything tried to use ssl all of a sudden the dns would go down.
[00:53] <jhernando83> Hi all!
[00:54] <davidokner> What is the best Ubuntu laptop under $400?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: try:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[00:54] <usr13> lorddelta: So, what nameserver are you using?
[00:54] <bkc_> davidokner: any computer under $400...
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: there is no single best
[00:54] <jhernando83>  I wonder  if someone could lend me a hand on this. I get the following error in ubuntu 12.10
[00:54] <davidokner> I was thinking a laptop that comes with Ubuntu installed.
[00:54] <usr13> lorddelta: Yea, as   ActionParsnip suggests, use <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:54] <davidokner> Some examples
[00:55] <davidokner> I found the Dell 2520 with intel celeron 1.7ghz for $300.
[00:55] <jhernando83> "libsteam_api.so Missing file
[00:55] <davidokner> It comes with ubuntu
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=2
[00:55] <bawig1> I'm having some trouble with my 12.04.1 LTS netbook. The wireless adapter keeps disapearing. One minute it works then it's gone and the device no longer shows up under 'lspci'
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: my dell Lat D420 works all out of the box :)
[00:56] <lorddelta> usr13: I'm using an internal nameserver, <IP_ADDRESS>, I've manually got it configured in resolv.conf, since it seemed like the dns wasn't working randomly (when I started up the pc no dns worked at all, I had to dnsmasq --server <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:56] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: have you set any custom power settings in BIOS?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !find libsteam_api.so
[00:56] <davidokner> ActionParsnip: Lat's cost more.
[00:56] <usr13> lorddelta: So, what nameserver is <IP_ADDRESS> using?
[00:56] <bawig1> pragmaticenigma: not as far as I know but will double check
[00:56] <davidokner> Are celeron 1.7ghz too slow?
[00:57] <john_sc_net> hello; happy new year.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: depends what you need the system for
[00:57] <lorddelta> usr13: not sure, but internet seems to work in the rest of the house
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> jhernando83: what application is asking for the file?
[00:57] <davidokner> ActionParsnip: I think low speed requirement, though the user likes to do video editing, but she used a slow computer before.
[00:57] <usr13> lorddelta: Ok, well, we've given our recommendation.
[00:58] <john_sc_net> i have used and programmed on linux/unix for years but never really played with ubuntu/suse flavors when it comes to sudo, or sudo is part of SElinux?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> !find libsteam_api_linux.so
[00:58] <lorddelta> looks like <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:58] <bawig1> no custom power settings in the bios pragmaticenigma
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: Does it always disappear after about the same amount of time after first booting?
[00:59] <lorddelta> usr13: I execute the command a while ago...
[00:59] <usr13> lorddelta: Well, you could check to see if both of those nameservers are up and running and operational, or, you can just switch to google's  (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[01:00] <jhernando83> Hi all!
[01:00] <usr13> lorddelta: Test:   host av.com
[01:00] <davidokner> How does Ubuntu run with 2GB RAM, better than windows 8?
[01:00] <bawig1> sometimes it is not present at all when I boot. Only the 3G adapter and the ethernet one
[01:00] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:00] <bawig1> it's quiet touch and go
[01:00] <davidokner> usr13: And better than widnows 7?
[01:00] <scotty531> daviddonker: Anything is better than Windows 8
[01:00] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:01] <OerHeks> jhernando83, the steam forum has the answer > http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882966056378685345/
[01:01] <davidokner> So ubuntu needs less ram than windows.
[01:01] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:01] <davidokner> usr13: Does Ubuntu use about as much ram as windows XP?
[01:01] <lorddelta> usr13: hmm...that'll work, won't I need to do that every time I boot though?
[01:01] <usr13> davidokner: Probably something in that neighborhood.
[01:02] <usr13> lorddelta: Depends on your router's config and the network preferences on your PC
[01:02] <davidokner> usr13: Dell sells a laptop with Ubuntu loaded that costs $300.
[01:02] <usr13> lorddelta: Just configure the router to give out <IP_ADDRESS> and nothing else.
[01:02] <usr13> davidokner: Sounds good to me  :)
[01:02] <davidokner> Is video editing compatability well with Ubuntu?
[01:03] <davidokner> I searched and found there is a video editor that is not skeleton model.
[01:03] <usr13> davidokner: Well, compatable to ___________?  You are off into specialize applications, (no longer comparing OS to other-OS)
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: I guess with the video camera detecting or something. For some reason some models cameras don't work with mac.
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: With iMOvie I mean. So maybe the same could happen with the popular Ubuntu video editors, I don't know if you have heard anything.
[01:04] <usr13> davidokner: Don't know much about Mac's...
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: That is just my example.
[01:05] <davidokner> usr13: Otherwise, I would have thought every camera would work with every computer that can read files off of USB.
[01:05] <lorddelta> usr13: sure: here's another (more useful question): do you know what the default dns client system is for ubuntu? My DNS was messed up a while ago, it hasn't recieved anything correctly from the router for a while now. I've got named (which I'm using now) and dnsmasq, and a resolv.conf that I apparently need to manually clobber now...
[01:05] <davidokner> I want to reccomend this ubuntu laptop for my cousin, but she is not tech savy at all.
[01:05] <usr13> davidokner: You'll have to ask someone else.  I do very little in the way of video editing.
[01:05] <davidokner> And she lives in Mexico and needs to buy while visiting.
[01:06] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: I'm stumpped... if you know how to check your logs, they may give you a better chance of figuring out what's going on
[01:06] <davidokner> So, I can't strand her with a non-working laptop.
[01:06] <usr13> lorddelta: dhclient I think.
[01:07] <lorddelta> usr13: ok, thank you
[01:07] <usr13> lorddelta: You only need to use valid nameservers.
[01:07] <FlowRiser> bawigl: do you have proper wi-fe drivers installed ? (from the developers website, etc)
[01:07] <moon`> god why does everything have to be such a pita in ubuntu
[01:08] <FlowRiser> moon`, it isn't we just make it so :P
[01:08] <artichoku_> a pita?
[01:08] <moon`> artichoku: google
[01:08] <geudrik> pita = pain in the _ _ _
[01:08] <usr13> lorddelta: For instance, <IP_ADDRESS> does not appear to be online right now (as far as I can tell)
[01:09] <moon`> Things just work in Windows though, it's like it is completely idiot proof
[01:09] <geudrik> moon`: No, that's OSX. :P
[01:09] <const_antine> Hey can I change USB device configuration that's visible on lsusb -v ?
[01:09] <FlowRiser> moon`, i like to think ubuntu isn't for dumb people
[01:09] <davidokner> I think Ubuntu all-in-one's have good potential.
[01:09] <FlowRiser> moon`, but then again, i'm using it
[01:09] <davidokner> (if the price doesn't give too high)
[01:10] <moon`> I'd like to think you wouldn't have to spend hours upon hours doing work arounds and finding patches and fixes by third party volunteers to get various software to work
[01:10] <lorddelta> usr13: dns server outage is such a rare occurence in my experience that I didn't think to check, sorry
[01:11] <FlowRiser> moon`, not everything is perfect, there are a lot of people developing for ubuntu and linux, it's normal for discrepancies to appear
[01:11] <FlowRiser> moon`, but Ubuntu is coordinated more than other free os-es
[01:13] <cjae> what is up with no znes and sn9x in repos, is it cause of 64 bit?
[01:13] <davidokner> Has anyone seen any big retail stores selling computers with Ubuntu?
[01:13] <davidokner> walk-in conveniance stores
[01:13] <bkc_> davidokner: yes, in sweden...
[01:14] <geudrik> When compiling SSHd from source, I've made a few changes and it compiles file (your basic ./configure .. make && make install) but for some reason, I can't seem to see those changes reflected. Any idea hwy that would be? Eg: the binary isn't being moved to the right place. It should be in /usr/local/sbin correct?
[01:14] <IdleOne> cjae: do you mean zsnes maybe
[01:14] <geudrik> or am I just being a derp
[01:15] <cjae> IdleOne: yes
[01:15] <bkc_> geudrik: /usr/sbin... or put /usr/local/sbin in your $PATH (remember that sudo messes with that thou)
[01:16] <IdleOne> cjae: available in repos for both 32 and 64 bit
[01:16] <bkc_> cjae: snes9x and zsnes :)
[01:16] <cjae> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herp%20derp&defid=5774002           see number two
[01:17] <IdleOne> cjae: What does that link have to do with anything?
[01:17] <cjae> IdleOne: wasnt directed to you
[01:17] <cjae> and no they are not on my system
[01:18] <IdleOne> cjae: Doesn't matter. Not ubuntu related and it was rude of you
[01:18] <geudrik> Yep, bkc_ I'm being a derp :P Thanks for pointing that out
[01:18] <IdleOne> anyway, both zsnes and snes9x are in the ubuntu repos
[01:18] <cjae> I dont see them
[01:18] <cjae> kubuntu make a difference
[01:19] <IdleOne> hmm snes9x is not in the repos, sorry.
[01:19] <cjae> bsnes only
[01:19] <usr13> lorddelta: You'll find that <IP_ADDRESS>  may be faster than <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:19] <IdleOne> cjae: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, all share the same repos.
[01:19] <bkc_> always use <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS> :D
[01:19] <cjae> IdleOne: thats what I thought
[01:19] <usr13> bkc_: Ok, thanks info.
[01:20] <bkc_> unless you absolutely _must_ use your standard dns...
[01:21] <cjae> IdleOne: oh I see zsnes, funny doesnt come up with just nes  I kinda wanted snes9x since I dont really like the znes ui
[01:21] <cjae> thanks
[01:23] <dr_willis> zsnes is a classic. ;)
[01:23] <cjae> see i did it again zsnes*
[01:24]  * cjae might be being a hd
[01:25] <cjae> I think the zsnes ui would be better in a stand alone machine deciated to it
[01:25] <cjae> dedicated*
[01:29] <dr_willis> zsnes in the framebuffer,  on a live cd =  fun. ;)
[01:29] <davidokner> dr_willis: how is zsnes working on Ubuntu?
[01:30] <dr_willis> Not tried it lately. for the longest time zsnes was 16bit only.  But thats changed here in the last few releases.
[01:30] <dr_willis> Im on 64bit machines/os's so havent tried it in like a year
[01:30] <Ben64> I was using it fine with 10.04 64 bit
[01:31] <ForSpareParts> Extended and Logical options are greyed out in GParted, but AFAIK I don't have any existing extended partition. Anyone know why that might happen?
[01:32] <dr_willis> How many primary partions do you have on the HD?
[01:32] <ForSpareParts> Two, I think. It's the default setup for an Ubuntu installation on a blank drive.
[01:33] <ForSpareParts> sda1 is grub, sda 2 is ext4, sda 3 is swap.
[01:33] <ForSpareParts> Does grub count?
[01:34] <ForSpareParts> Actually, to guard against idiocy., here's what I'm trying to do:
[01:34] <davidokner> I called Dell to ask which version of Ubuntu comes with their laptop and they said they don't know.
[01:34] <Laserfeet> Anyone running Ubuntu on a macbook?
[01:35] <vp18> help I can't seem to install Conky on 12.10
[01:35] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  you mnay want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:35] <davidokner> Laserfeet: No, but I am on my iMac, I tried to install on my macbook and it didn't work last time i tried.
[01:35] <Laserfeet> Did you use the guide that involved reFIT also?
[01:36] <dr_willis> vp18:  sudo apt-get install conky    gives any errors?
[01:36] <ForSpareParts> I have Windows 7 on one hard drive, currently disconnected. I installed Ubuntu on my new blank drive, and shrank the Ubuntu partition, sliding the swap space over. My goal is to use the newly unallocated space to create an NTFS partition that Ubuntu and Win7 can both see.
[01:36] <under> Is there anyone who speaks german?
[01:36] <vp18> i think so im not really sure
[01:37] <dr_willis> run it and look. ;)
[01:37] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/40UgnE0a
[01:37] <vp18> This what it said E:Unable to locate package conky
[01:38] <vp18> Dr.Willis do i install that transitional package in the software store?
[01:38] <dr_willis> !info conky
[01:38] <dr_willis> Transitional packagee? Its in the universe repos..  be sure you have universe enabled.
[01:38] <dr_willis> I dont use the software store. ;)
[01:39] <vp18> where do i do that at ?
[01:39] <dr_willis> !repos
[01:39] <dr_willis> theres a software-sources tool to double check.
[01:39] <dr_willis> last i tried.. conky did not work that well with unity,. ;)
[01:40] <dr_willis> well conky runs. but the default settings leave much to be desired.
[01:41] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: fdisk doesn't seem to like my  drive (GPT). Is there anything in GParted that would provide useful information?
[01:42] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  thears that parted command i recall does about the same task
[01:42] <vp18> all of my repositories are enabled
[01:42] <dr_willis> sudo parted  -l
[01:42] <ForSpareParts> http://pastebin.com/iP8w6hAh
[01:43] <dr_willis> for gpt disks - you dont want to use fdisk ;) im so old skool i never rember that
[01:44] <dr_willis> ive rarely messed with GPT either. So ive no other ideas on what needs tobe done
[01:44] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: damn.
[01:44] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: Thanks for your help, though!
[01:45] <zacarias> Hi. Is there a way of choosing a different startup disk from within Ubuntu, i.e., if I want to boot from a live cd or from another partition or hard disk, can I choose it from within Ubuntu, without having to choose it from a boot manager or similar? Like a start up disk option in the system settings?
[01:49] <cjae> yes now that I tried setting zsnes to 48000 for audio the app steadily crashes
[01:50] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: I did a bit of searching, and it looks like on GPT disks, extended partitions aren't really a thing.
[01:50] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  i was thinking that also..  but wasent sure.
[01:51] <ForSpareParts> They can just have more primary partitions, apparently.
[01:51] <ForSpareParts> I'm going to try just making the NTFS partition as primary and see if anything breaks.
[01:52] <vp18> is there anything else besides conky?
[01:52] <bkc_> dr_willis, ForSpareParts: correct, GPT can have N primary partitions, hence making the need for logical/extended partitions unnecessary :)
[01:53] <bkc_> (iirc Windows can only read 128 paritions, but otherwise it's only a question of how you partition it how big N is)
[01:53] <ForSpareParts> While I'm here, another related question: Is there a way to add a standalone (non-WUBI) Ubuntu installation to my Windows boot manager? Or is there some other way to conveniently select between the two?
[01:54] <ForSpareParts> Windows was installed first and sits on a different hard drive. For the moment, I'd like it to be the default launch option.
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: Does your bios allow you to select which harddrive to boot from?
[01:55] <bkc_> !grub | ForSpareParts
[01:55] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: Yeah, it does. I was hoping for something a little more elegant, but that would work in a pinch.
[01:56] <joes> boa noite
[01:56] <under> buona notte
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: It's what I used to do at work... otherwise the only option you really have is to use grub.  Ubuntu will autodetect all the OSs installed and create a grub file.  There are simple ways to update the grub file to default to Windows (though sometimes you have to re-edit the file after kernel updates_
[01:57] <lime> How do I go about backing up an ubuntu installation?  Not just the home folder but /usr/share, /etc... Can I just do folder and file dump of the root directory?
[01:57] <Guest76022> tenho um wi-fi tplink tl-wn721n mas meu ubuntu nao reconhece...como insta-lo ?
[01:57] <lime> nevermind
[01:58] <pragmaticenigma> !spanish | Guest76022
[01:58] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: Will going through GRUB slow down my boot at all? The Ubuntu drive is mechanical and Windows is on an SSD. I'd like to keep my sexy boot times, if I can.
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> once it's on the Windows boot it will be as fast as normal.  The only slow down is the 3 to 10 second wait (customizable) to allow a chance to decide which OS you want to boot.
[01:59] <Guest76022> i have a wi-fi tplink tl-wn721n but the ubuntu not recogized...how install it ?
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: See my last comment, forgot to tag you on it
[01:59] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: thanks.
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: I'll try using the bios, if it makes me grumpy I'll shove Win7 into GRUB.
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> Thanks, everytbody for your help!
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> *everybody,
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: I didn't like it either, but my bios was the easiest choice to avoid editing MBRs
[02:02] <Guest76022> can yu help me with wifi usb tplink tl-wn721n  ? ubuntu not recognized and i dont know what means
[02:02] <Guest76022> i try install but no sucess
[02:02] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | Guest76022
[02:05] <fearphage> iceroot: i even combined all the output into one gist https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[02:09] <vp18> Is there analternative to conky?
[02:09] <j> hey all
[02:10] <Guest26017> im new to this chat can someone tell me how to find a room that can help me figure out sound issues
[02:11] <usr13> !sound | Guest26017
[02:12] <Guest26017> ok thank you ..ive installed ubuntu on my galaxy s3..do i look in the same forums you provided?
[02:14] <bkc_> Guest26017: try asking in #ubuntu-arm :)
[02:14] <Guest26017> thanks ....alot
[02:14] <Guest26017> #ubuntu-arm
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> add a /join in front of that Guest26017 and your good to go!
[02:22] <Guest26017> i asked in ubuntu-arm about sound issue on galaxy s3 and received no respose. so i guess ill ask, where else can i look?
[02:22] <Karlito> hi question, what channel is linux mint?
[02:23] <Karlito> er. *linux mint support?
[02:23] <bkc_> !mint | Karlito
[02:23] <Karlito> also, general query. how can i connect a linux desktop with a vga to a tv?
[02:23] <bkc_> !arm | Guest26017
[02:24] <Guest26017> wow....thanks......and thats y i love ubuntu
[02:24] <Karlito> desktop vga to tv vga, will that work?
[02:24] <Muphrid> Karlito: yes
[02:24] <Muphrid> but you have to configure the outputs in system settings -> monitors
[02:25] <Karlito> ok
[02:25] <Karlito> how do i do that?
[02:25] <Karlito> Muphrid: btw, tnx :D
[02:25] <Karlito> i mean when i use my laptop i just plug the vga in both devices and then right click etc...
[02:25] <Bubo> How can I create text.txt in all the folders in /home/*
[02:26] <Karlito> but w/a desktop there's no extra screen to do that with...
[02:26] <Bubo> example create text.txt in /home/Folder1/ and in /home/Foler2/
[02:26] <Guest26017> i now see that my device is not supported...is there someone i can ask to make a driver for my sound
[02:26] <Bubo> just faster
[02:26] <Muphrid> Karlito: are you using mate or cinnamon?
[02:26] <Karlito> Muphrid: can i pls pm you,i'll keep it extremely brief
[02:26] <Muphrid> Karlito: ok
[02:28] <Guest26017> i gotta have sound........
[02:29] <Karlito> sorry about that Muphrid, didn't mean for my texts to double posts :P
[02:29] <usr13> Guest26017: What seems to be the problem?
[02:29] <Muphrid> Karlito: did you pm?
[02:29] <OerHeks> Guest26017 then you really should be patience in #ubuntu-arm
[02:29] <Karlito> i did but my texts kept double posting for some reason so i exited out
[02:29] <Guest26017> ok thank you
[02:29] <Muphrid> Got no messages here
[02:30] <Muphrid> Karlito: anyways, it can be either in the menu -> preferences -> monitors or system settings in the menu
[02:32] <Karlito> Muphrid: thanks
[02:32] <Karlito> :D
[02:32] <Muphrid> yw
[02:33] <Bubo> How do I set up disk quota per user in ubuntu? I want users in group 'restricted' to have only 50MB space
[02:34] <bkc_> !diskquota
[02:34] <bkc_> sorry, no bot-command for that ^.^
[02:34] <Bubo> :(
[02:34] <Bubo> Can you point me in the right direction bkc_? Or help me do it? :D
[02:35] <bkc_> w8 a sec
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> I don't think there is an easy way for a group ... just a per user basis
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> The per user can be setup in the main user management tool, under the advanced settings area
[02:36] <bkc_> setquota -g :)
[02:36] <bkc_> actually :P
[02:36] <bkc_> http://abhishek.nagar.me/blogs/user-group-disk-quotas-three-step-guide
[02:36] <bkc_> gobby plz, command line <3
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> well there ya go
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> !setquota
[02:38] <bkc_> sorry, edquota
[02:38] <Bubo> I am on a vps pragmaticenigma
[02:38] <bkc_> !edquota
[02:38] <Bubo> I'll try http://abhishek.nagar.me/blogs/user-group-disk-quotas-three-step-guide
[02:38] <Bubo> thanks bkc_
[02:38] <bkc_> Bubo: sure, they should have shell-access somewhere :)
[02:38] <hero616> I know how to switch to text console using hot key, but how to do it using command line?
[02:38] <bkc_> hero616: ?
[02:39] <d4rkh4nd> Need some help with kdialog --password, i dont see any info on how you can call this password later or its real use
[02:39] <Montanha> her616: like "Ctrl + Alt + F1" from console ?
[02:39] <hero616> yes
[02:39] <dr_willis> cant sayive ever seen alt-ctrl-f1 from a command...
[02:40] <bkc_> actually issuing a tty-change with a command? humm...
[02:40] <hero616> bkc: how about the details?
[02:41] <bkc_> gimme a sec as I actually have no F'n clue :)
[02:41] <bkc_> not really something one does normally :)
[02:41] <d4rkh4nd> Anyone use kdialog --password that can help me please.
[02:41] <bkc_> hero616: chvt
[02:41] <hero616> OK, thanks:)
[02:42] <Montanha> yeah
[02:42] <Montanha> chvt Number
[02:42] <JBobUbuntu> Hey I am new to Ubuntu. I got a refurbished server for christmas and I am attempting to install Ubuntu server 12.04 on it. I am having some issues that the documentation doesn't talk about. Anyone able to help me with it?
[02:43] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: shoot
[02:43] <bkc_> or rather
[02:43] <bkc_> !ask | JBobUbuntu
[02:44] <JBobUbuntu> It is a dell poweredge 1950. When it boots up I play the disc in and tell it to boot off the disc but it acts as though there is not a disc in the drive.
[02:44] <JBobUbuntu> Am I missing a step?
[02:44] <Corey> JBobUbuntu: Is the drive showing up in BIOS?
[02:45] <JBobUbuntu> yes it shows up as a CD Rom
[02:45] <JBobUbuntu> its a Dvd Rom if that matters at all
[02:45] <bkc_> doesn't matter :)
[02:45] <lvleph> How do I remove the catalyst driver (compiled) and switch back to the open source driver?
[02:46] <chiggins> how would i go about "uninstalling" an network interface? aka, I don't want ubuntu to detect the onboard wifi interface I have on my laptop
[02:46] <dr_willis> JBobUbuntu:  how did you make the cd?
[02:46] <dr_willis> chiggins:  unload the module and blacklist it. would be one way
[02:46] <Montanha> lvleph In the System Preferences >> Software Channel >> Additional software
[02:46] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: I'm guessing it's a 32bit CPU right? do you use the correct CD? :)
[02:46] <JBobUbuntu> Astroburn. Burned the Iso onto a cd/dvd room drive
[02:47] <JBobUbuntu> let me check I don't remember I thought it was a 64bit but I could be wrong
[02:47] <lvleph> Montanha: Nothing else special need be done?
[02:47] <Montanha> lvleph You just change the open source driver and apply
[02:48] <lvleph> ok
[02:48] <Montanha> lvleph I think it's just that
[02:48] <JBobUbuntu> They are Xeon 2Ghz Dual Core Processors
[02:49] <JBobUbuntu> Bios says 64bit
[02:49] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: then it should boot :/
[02:49] <lvleph> Montanha: Only the proprietary drivers show up.
[02:49] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: did you try the cd in a "normal" computer?
[02:50] <JBobUbuntu> yeah with this laptop I am on
[02:50] <Bubo> To enable disk quota in certain partition just add "usrquota,grpquota" to that partition in your fstab you need root privileges to do this of course.
[02:50] <Bubo> how do I do this?
[02:50] <JBobUbuntu> well I never actually tried installing ubuntu I just checked the cd to see if the information was there
[02:50] <bkc_> Bubo: not sure on a vps :/
[02:51] <Bubo> Ahh
[02:51] <JBobUbuntu> its possible I downloaded the 32bit version by mistake I will try redownloading the 64bit and burning etc se if that changes things
[02:51] <JBobUbuntu> thanks for the help
[02:51] <ti89breh> hello
[02:52] <chiggins> dr_willis: any quick way to see which module is being used for my wifi? besides going through the list
[02:53] <dr_willis> chiggins:  research your card i guess.. I just look at the lsmod output and figure it out.
[02:53] <Bubo> How can I see the currently logged in FTP users?
[02:54] <crk> Bubo: which FTP server?
[02:54] <lvleph> Why is the open source ati driver not showing up in additional drivers? All I see are the proprietary drivers.
[02:54] <Montanha> lvleph: that's unexpected, let me google something
[02:54] <crk> Bubo: proftpd has a tool that does that... but I can't remember its name
[02:54] <Bubo> crk I don't really know, the one I got from my VPS. How do I find it out?
[02:54] <crk> um...
[02:54] <lvleph> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]
[02:54] <ti89breh> hi does anyone know how I can become login to my username in terminal from a guest account in ubuntu?
[02:55] <crk> if you're on the machine that's running the FTP, you should get a handle on what FTP daemon's running
[02:55] <crk> by scanning the processes
[02:55] <crk> maybe : ps aux | grep ftp
[02:55] <crk> should give you some results
[02:55] <Bubo> It gave me the users logged in on the ftp
[02:55] <Bubo> lol
[02:55] <Bubo> :D
[02:55] <crk> :D
[02:55] <Bubo> Filip    10344  0.0  0.0   2080   848 ?        SNs  06:13   0:00 /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[02:56] <Bubo> nice one, thanks crk
[02:56] <FloodBot1> Bubo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <Montanha> lvleph: there is no "Using X.Org..." in the drivers list ?
[02:57] <lvleph> There are only the FGLRX proprietary drivers listed
[02:57] <lvleph> two of them
[02:57] <ti89breh> I am unable to access my account because I tried moving /home to another partition and now it says that it can't mount /home. and I can't access my account to make changes. can someone please help me
[02:57] <crk> ti89breh: your description of the issue is too vague for anyone to give specific help :P
[02:58] <usr13> ti89breh: Did you edit the fstab file?
[02:58] <Montanha> lvleph: try reinstalling xorg
[02:58] <ti89breh> crk: I followed this tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/116742/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-after-installing-ubuntu/ and now when I boot up my computer it says it can't mount the /home directory, and so I am in a guest account now but I can't make any changes because I can't become root
[02:58] <ti89breh> usr13: yes
[02:59] <Montanha> lvleph: "sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg" to remove it
[02:59] <d4rkh4nd> Anyone use kdialog --password that can help me please.
[02:59] <crk> what does the output of df -h say, ti89breh ?
[02:59] <Montanha> lvleph: and "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" to install it
[02:59] <crk> could you paste.ubuntu.com it
[02:59] <crk> for us to see
[02:59] <usr13> ti89breh: You're going to have to boot recovery mode and see where you went wrong.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[02:59] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can always use the rescue/recovery mode. or a live cd to fix things
[02:59] <ti89breh> crk: http://pastebin.com/htRFYvrd
[03:00] <Montanha> lvleph: and finally "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" would configure it
[03:00] <ti89breh> usr13: and dr_willis i was in it but when I do nano /ect/fstab a blank file comes up
[03:00] <usr13> ti89breh: /dev/sda3 is your new /home partition?
[03:00] <ti89breh> I think it was because my username was root and not my real username that I use called clinic1
[03:01] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  if /etc/fstab on you rinstalled system is totally blank.. you either spelt it wrong.. or did a MAJOR mess up
[03:01] <crk> ti89breh: like they said, a live-cd environment, or the rescue option is what you need to go for
[03:01] <usr13> ti89breh: etc not ect
[03:01] <ti89breh> usr13: yes
[03:01] <crk> and correct whatever you've mucked up in /etc/fstab
[03:01] <Montanha> lvleph: let me know if it worked
[03:01] <lvleph> Montanha: still only see the prop drivers
[03:01] <Bubo> is there a way to send an announcement or something like that to all connected users on the server?
[03:01] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can use a text based irc client to get to here from the consoles. :) if you need more detailed help from the rescue enviroment
[03:02] <ti89breh> crk: I made a backup
[03:02] <dr_willis> Bubo:  what server are you refering to?
[03:02] <psusi> Bubo, if they are connected with telnet or ssh, wall will
[03:02] <Bubo> ubuntu
[03:02] <Bubo> vps
[03:02] <Bubo> SSH psusi
[03:02] <ti89breh> dr_willis: won't irssi take up the whole screen?
[03:02] <dr_willis> Bubo:  theres DOZENS of types of services.. ;)
[03:02] <crk> dr_willis: he's got some sftp server thing running
[03:02] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  this is why you use screen. or the other consoles...
[03:02] <Bubo> crk no, I am talking about SSH ocnnected users
[03:02] <ti89breh> ??
[03:02] <crk> how about wall ?
[03:02] <crk> wall <message>
[03:02] <Bubo> Works, thanks
[03:03] <crk> should broadcast it to everyone logged in
[03:03] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 for consoles...
[03:03] <ti89breh> ok I will reboot thank you
[03:03] <bkc_> Bubo: shutdown -h now "Bye Bye now :)"
[03:03] <Bubo> :D
[03:03] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  or instaall screen. and learn it. :)
[03:03] <Bubo> I am not that big beginner
[03:03] <usr13> ti89breh: You are going to end up with UUID=????????   /home    ext3 ...... in the /etc/fstab file, (not /media/home )
[03:04] <Montanha> lvleph: are you using 32 or 64 bits ?
[03:04] <bkc_> Bubo: or shutdown -h 10min "You huys have 10 minutes to wrap it up, 'key? :P" :3
[03:04] <Bubo> usage: wall [file]
[03:04] <crk> Bubo: wall is the way to go
[03:04] <ti89breh> usr13: I copied it right from the tutorial but changed the uuid
[03:04] <d4rkh4nd> Need some help with kdialog --password, i dont see any info on how you can call this password later or its real use
[03:04] <ti89breh> usr13:     UUID=UUID HERE    /home     ext4     nodev,nosuid     0     2
[03:04] <lvleph> Montanha: Linux Media-PC 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:04] <Bubo> wall text text text doesn't work
[03:04] <Bubo> gives me usage: wall [file]
[03:05] <usr13> ti89breh: We would need to see the fstab file  and the output of blkid
[03:05] <Montanha> lvleph: try this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 xserver-xorg-core"
[03:05] <usr13> ti89breh: Otherwise, we can't give any specific advise
[03:05] <crk> ti89breh: you may have missed something... a minor syntax error, or maybe a few characters of the UUID
[03:05] <ti89breh> usr13: http://pastebin.com/PRuMVgH3
[03:05] <ti89breh> crk: can I change it from a guest account?
[03:06] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you could login at the console and try to fix stuff
[03:06] <crk> if you have the root user enabled... yes
[03:06] <Montanha> lvleph: and again "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to configure it
[03:06] <ti89breh> I think so I am not sure
[03:06] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  thats not the default setup. ;)
[03:06] <usr13> ti89breh: Ok good.  We'd also need to see the /etc/fstab file, and output of sudo fdisk -l
[03:06] <ti89breh> dr_willis: sorry?
[03:07] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  by default root user is not enabled.. and guest user cant sudo to root.
[03:07] <crk> ti89breh: why don't you boot from your Ubuntu install cd/dvd and make the required changes
[03:07] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  try the console and see if you can login as your user.
[03:07] <ti89breh> I don't have my install medium
[03:07] <lvleph> Montanha: same result
[03:07] <dr_willis> then you can alt-ctrl-f1 and alt-ctrl-f7 back and forth from the console to X.
[03:07] <crk> ti89breh: as dr_willis says... I don't see why a console login as your user (Clininchwatever) should fail...
[03:07] <ti89breh> ok I can use gparted live cd I think
[03:08] <dr_willis> It should report that home is not there or somthing like that.
[03:08] <ti89breh> crk dr_willis how can I login as a different user?
[03:08] <DouglasK> In 12.10, smbfs is no longer a package, but it seems related to cifs.  Where is the documentation on mounting smb shares at the prompt?
[03:08] <crk> yeah... aside from that error, it should still log you in
[03:08] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you login at the console AS your normal sudo enabled user...
[03:08]  * crk sighs
[03:08] <dr_willis> actually the guest user Might be able to 'su' or 'login' from a terminal as a user..
[03:08] <dr_willis> open a terminal and try 'su yourusername'
[03:09] <ti89breh> Unknown id: clinic1
[03:09] <crk> wtf
[03:09] <Montanha> lvleph: have you loaded the menu again ?
[03:09] <ti89breh> oh wait i got it
[03:09] <crk> you didn't run any userdel commands, did you?
[03:09] <crk> or edited /etc/passwd
[03:09] <ti89breh> crk: I did not dr_willis setgid: Operation not permitted
[03:09] <lvleph> yep Montanha
[03:09] <ti89breh> from guest consol
[03:10] <dr_willis> guest cant switch users. it seems.. did you have ssh enabled? could try toi get in that way
[03:10] <dr_willis> ssh yourusername@localhost
[03:10] <ti89breh> I don't
[03:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:10] <ti89breh> already tried :D
[03:10] <ti89breh> ok live cd it is
[03:10] <usr13> dr_willis: He can
[03:10] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  OR USE THE CONSOLE....
[03:10] <dr_willis> no need for a live cd then
[03:11] <dr_willis> and you can jump back and forth to here.
[03:11] <ti89breh> btw guys dr_willis crk and usr13 I appriciate the help so much and can't thank you enough and I can't use consol it's very confusing to switch windows and use irc and
[03:11] <usr13> ti89breh: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> hitting alt-ctrl-f1 and f7 is confuseing?
[03:11] <Montanha> lvleph: trying to find a solution on Google, that's really unexpected
[03:11] <usr13> ti89breh: Ctrl-Alt-F6  to go to console, Alt-right-arrow to go back to tty7 (the GUI).
[03:12] <ti89breh> GOT IT! dr_willis and usr13 I thought you ment from recovery I got it now
[03:12] <dr_willis> or alt-ctrl-f7 (i think)  F1 through F6 are consoles.. F7 is the GUI
[03:12] <ti89breh> ok I got into consol ok
[03:12] <usr13> ti89breh: dr_willis I always use tty6, (it's right next door).
[03:13] <ti89breh> http://imgur.com/22G9d
[03:14] <ti89breh> oops i can retake that
[03:14] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can use the pastebinit command from the console to pastebin text files..
[03:14] <dr_willis> and you could even use a console based irc client if needed
[03:15] <ti89breh> dr_willis: like pastebinit nano /etc/fstab ?
[03:15] <usr13> ti89breh:  blkid |pastebinit
[03:15] <ti89breh> ah
[03:15] <usr13> ti89breh: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[03:15] <Montanha> lvleph: try "sudo apt-get update" and open the additional drivers again
[03:15] <villu> hiiiiiiiiii
[03:15] <dr_willis> think about the commands you are doing. ;)    pastebinit nano  sort of makes no sence
[03:16] <artichoku> ok i have a question. i know i can do an export command to temporarily use a proxy in terminal
[03:16] <ti89breh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1471620/
[03:16] <usr13> artichoku: Use a proxy?
[03:16] <artichoku> is there any way to permanently set up a proxy to use for outgoing connections in the terminal
[03:16] <lvleph> Montanha: trying the updated radeon provided by the x-updates ppa, so it will be a moment.
[03:17] <Montanha> lvleph: ok, no problems
[03:17] <artichoku> !proxy
[03:17] <usr13> ti89breh: Change UUID=cbbdf00d-0809-49bd-aa12-923540923d07/jordan  to  UUID=cbbdf00d-0809-49bd-aa12-923540923d07
[03:17] <artichoku> ok that's not the info i wanted you to get usr13
[03:18] <lvleph> still only the proprietary drivers showing Montanha.
[03:18] <lvleph> this is driving me nuts
[03:18] <Montanha> lvleph: It is starting to drive me nuts too
[03:19] <lvleph> I am going to reboot and see what happens. Crossing my fingers
[03:19] <Montanha> lvleph: Ok
[03:19] <ti89breh> usr13: thanks I will restart. If it works thanks a ton really thank you all so much dr_willis and crk and everyone you guys are great helping people out for free
[03:19] <usr13> NP
[03:19] <docmur> what is the syntax to dump the ip address from a known mac add, I set a static ip on a embedded board but forgot it and my router doesn't see it, I have the mac
[03:20] <usr13> Wait... free?  Are we really doing this for free?  I thought I was supposed to get a check in the mail!
[03:20] <usr13> :)
[03:21] <usr13> ... sorry, couldn't resist ....
[03:22] <lvleph> Montanha: still only the prop
[03:23] <crk> usr13: hehe :P
[03:24] <Montanha> lvleph: Which version are you using ?
[03:24] <lvleph> 12.6
[03:25] <Montanha> lvleph: I mean, Ubuntu version
[03:25] <lvleph> 12.04
[03:25] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. installed from dvd and usb? wiped hdds clean, new raid partition (0 for test).. what i am doing wrong? someone help please? it gets to the 92% and then errors out.
[03:27] <lvleph> pianotips: did you check the dvd for errors?
[03:27] <pianotips> yes
[03:27] <Bubo> How do I limit access to a user in a specified directory with sftp ?
[03:27] <Montanha> lvleph: try this "sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle"
[03:27] <lvleph> I had this and I ended up rebooting and it worked pianotips
[03:28] <pianotips> i did an intergerty test, a cheksum, a write test...
[03:28] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue
[03:28] <Montanha> lvleph: and then "sudo apt-get update" and check the additional drivers page, I hope not it will work
[03:29] <pianotips> it worked? on a reboot? then reinstall?
[03:29] <lvleph> no reconfigure Montanha
[03:29] <Montanha> lvleph: what ?
[03:29] <lvleph> pianotips: yeah, reboot and tried install again and it worked
[03:29] <lvleph> dpkg-reconfigure Montanha ?
[03:30] <lvleph> I guess it doesn't need it when you just installed right?
[03:30] <Montanha> lvleph: I think it is not needed this time
[03:30] <pianotips> lvleph ill give it a try
[03:30] <pianotips> brb
[03:30] <yeats> pianotips: see bug cannot install the kernel into  the target system kernel package 'linux-server'
[03:30] <yeats> pianotips: sorry bug cannot install the kernel into  the target system kernel package 'linux-server'
[03:30]  * yeats blushes
[03:31] <yeats> trying to paste a bug number, sorry
[03:31] <DouglasK> If I want to run official nvidia drivers, where do I get them?
[03:31] <yeats> bug 367486
[03:31] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue. Is there a solution to rectify this problem?
[03:32] <hero616> from official website of nvidia.
[03:32] <Tech-1> im not sure, but, i dont think linux has a solutuion for that yet
[03:32] <usr13> DouglasK: Nvidia.com
[03:32] <DouglasK> thanks
[03:32] <TomyLobo> hi. unzip <filename> mangles extended characters. how do i fix that?
[03:33] <TomyLobo> they might be mangled inside the zip already
[03:33] <TomyLobo> (made it on windows with winrar)
[03:34] <TomyLobo> Ark and midnight commander show questions marks
[03:35] <lvleph> still no Montanha
[03:35] <Montanha> lvleph: Now, I am not sure if Ubuntu 12.04 shows the Open Source driver
[03:35] <lvleph> it should
[03:35] <lvleph> let me read something
[03:40] <JAIME> how do i download linux live usb creator??? its not in software manager!!
[03:41] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue. Is there a solution to rectify this problem? I have to change the BIOS>secure boot each time to boot either windows 8 or ubuntu
[03:41] <Montanha> lvleph: Do you have synaptic installed ?
[03:41] <xangua> JAIME: it is installed
[03:41] <lvleph> I found this Montanha and am finishing up right now
[03:42] <JAIME> no i dont seem to have it!!
[03:42] <lvleph> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:42] <xangua> JAIME: just typed 'usb' in the dash and appeared
[03:45] <mikehaas763> Hello, please let me know if there is a better channel for this. I have a mx 5500 mouse/keyboard combo. I have it connected through a bluetooth usb receiver as bluetooth devices. However I'm trying to get my media keys to work. xev does not show any input. How can I capture the raw data for my special media keys?
[03:45] <lvleph> Montanha: even that method still has me on the proprietary driver
[03:45] <lvleph> this makes no sense
[03:46] <Montanha> lvleph: Try this "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati"
[03:47] <lvleph> already installed
[03:47] <Montanha> lvleph: Or maybe "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all" to install all drivers
[03:47] <Montanha> strange
[03:47] <Tech-1> or maybe ?
[03:47] <Montanha> sorry
[03:48] <lvleph> If it wouldn't be such a pain I would just do a fresh install of 12.04.
[03:48] <wting> How do I get the volume keys working on my Latitude E6500? (Ubuntu 12.04.1)
[03:48] <Montanha> I am doing my best with the language...
[03:48] <lvleph> But then I would have to set up apache again
[03:49] <lvleph> If I spoke portugeuse...
[03:49] <TomyLobo> convmv solved my zip encoding problem :)
[03:49] <Montanha> haha
[03:49] <Montanha> No problems man, I think you can understand me, and I can understand you, that's perfect
[03:50] <lvleph> Well, I guess I am stuck with this buggy driver. My wife has just been driving me crazy asking me to kill things and reboot, etc.
[03:51] <wting> My laptop's volume keys are captured by xev and I can set them in Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts. However when I try using them they don't work. Anybody have ideas?
[03:51] <sshmetro> ls
[03:51] <sshmetro> WHOOPS
[03:52] <Montanha> lvleph: Well, the bug is stronger than me...
[03:52] <Muphrid> lvleph: "Additional Drivers" only lists the proprietary drivers, the open source one is included in xorg
[03:53] <lvleph> but, I can't seem to get it to stop using the prop drivers
[03:53] <Muphrid> if xserver-xorg-video-ati (i think thats the name) is installed all you had to do is uninstall the proprietary one and it should fallback to the x driver
[03:54] <Muphrid> have*
[03:57] <lvleph> Well that is interesting my plymouth theme is now working
[03:57] <lvleph> lol
[03:58] <Bubo> hown user:sftp -R test
[03:58] <Bubo> what will this do?
[03:58] <Bubo> +c*
[03:58] <lvleph> it will change ownership of test and its subdirectories
[03:58] <blargg> When I mount an HFS+ volume, files are owned by user #501. How do I mount it and force all files to be owned by user #1000 so my Ubuntu user can access them? This doesn't affect the user ID of files: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[03:59] <lvleph> the new owner will be user and the group will be sftp Bubo
[03:59] <Muphrid> lvleph: is it solved?
[03:59] <Muphrid> if plymouth is working then youre using the free driver
[03:59] <lvleph> Muphrid and Montanha finally got it to use the open source drivers.
[04:00] <lvleph> yep
[04:00] <Bubo> How do I change only to its subdirectories? not Test
[04:00] <Montanha> nice
[04:00] <lvleph> try test/* Bubo
[04:00] <Bubo> ok thanks
[04:01] <lvleph> but that is almost the exact same thing
[04:01] <lvleph> why would you want to do that?
[04:01] <MishaX2> I have a question for you everyone here...
[04:02] <Septima> it must be impossible for everyone to answer you!
[04:02] <Septima> especially if you don't give a question...
[04:02] <MishaX2> Why are people acting so ungrateful if you help them here on ubuntu or ubuntuforums askubuntu
[04:02] <lvleph> people feel entitled? You have no face?
[04:02] <OerHeks> MishaX2, most of them are gratefull
[04:02] <blargg> Should I repeat my question?
[04:02] <mike024> !ask MishaX2
[04:03] <Septima> lol
[04:03] <lvleph> blargg: ?
[04:03] <blargg> When I mount an HFS+ volume, files are owned by user #501. How do I mount it and force all files to be owned by user #1000 so my Ubuntu user can access them? This doesn't affect the user ID of files: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[04:03] <mike024> !ask | MishaX2
[04:03] <MishaX2> ok...
[04:03] <MishaX2> I get your point
[04:03] <OerHeks> MishaX2, some of them are gratefull, but do not understand confirmation is nice
[04:04] <blargg> Or alternately, how can I force the permissions for everyone (last octet) to be 7 for all files?
[04:04] <blargg> I take it that umask is ANDed with the permissions, thus it's only useful for *clearing* permission bits, not setting them.
[04:04] <lvleph> hmm
[04:05] <lvleph> well you could run chmod -R
[04:05] <blargg> It's read-only
[04:05] <lvleph> but I doubt that is what you want
[04:05] <lvleph> good point
[04:06] <blargg> Well, I'm thinking it's either something you've encountered and know the exact answer to, or we're just in the dark. Or maybe there's no way to force permissions :(
[04:07] <lvleph> blargg: maybe this will help?
[04:07] <lvleph> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=HFS%2B_Partitions
[04:07] <blargg> lvleph, heh, I read that one already in my search :)
[04:07] <lvleph> figured
[04:08] <blargg> Well, people talked of creating a new user #501 so it could access the files. I'm going to try that.
[04:08] <lvleph> The only other thing is not a good solution; copy the entire partition
[04:08] <lvleph> how do you give a user a particular number?
[04:12] <erncic> lvleph: add --uid ID to the adduser command
[04:13] <lvleph> thanks erncic
[04:13] <joshua342532453> does any one know a way to use a xbox 260 controller with linux
[04:14] <poop> please dont hurt me
[04:17] <Tech-1> stop asking forit
[04:18] <davidhurwich> i have a user error tech question, can i ask it here?
[04:19] <Tech-1> shoot
[04:19] <davidhurwich> so i have 12-4 Ubuntu
[04:19] <davidhurwich> I'm trying to use terminal to switch to root to install konqueror
[04:19] <mns> How do I upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 ?
[04:19] <davidhurwich> but when i run su root and put in my admin password it keeps getting rejected
[04:20] <bobweaver> mns,  are you sure you want to do that ?
[04:20] <matrixfoxtard> sudo su
[04:20] <Muphrid> !root
[04:20] <bobweaver> !root | davidhurwich
[04:21] <davidhurwich> i see
[04:21] <bobweaver> davidhurwich,  can you not sun     sudo apt-get install <package name >
[04:21] <davidhurwich> is this an ubuntu branch of linux type thing?
[04:21] <bobweaver> davidhurwich,  yeah
[04:21] <mns> bobweaver: ok now you've got me all wary about it.  Is there a reason not to ?
[04:21] <bobweaver> mns,  what is hardware ?
[04:21] <Muphrid> mns: really BAD support for radeonhd in case you have one
[04:22] <davidhurwich> has ubuntu always been this way, or is this a new architecture design item?
[04:22] <bobweaver> mnaser,  also what is DE that you use ?
[04:22] <mns> bobweaver: its my work laptop, ThinkPad T430
[04:22] <bobweaver> mns,  how much ram and vga ?
[04:22] <mns> Muphrid: lol .. its only got Intel for graphics.
[04:23] <bobweaver> mns,  on 12.04 do you use unity 2d at all ?
[04:23] <maslo> hi guys is there anything I can install and use to parse email mime messages ? I'd need to use it in a php script ;x  (On a virtual private server)
[04:23] <bobweaver> !postfix
[04:23] <Muphrid> mns: ok, and is there any specific reason you want to upgrade?
[04:23] <mns> bobweaver: I'm using xubuntu ... xfce.    I've got 8Gb RAM
[04:24] <maslo> I have postfix installed and I have it set up to pipe it to a php script
[04:24] <maslo> I just need to find a way to parse the mime, I have found php classes that does it and tried creating my own
[04:24] <bobweaver> Oo mns  you are fine then
[04:24] <maslo> but there's so different versions of mime
[04:24] <bobweaver> !add-apt-repository
[04:24] <davidhurwich> thanks ubottu, appreciate the help
[04:25] <bobweaver> mns,  you can upgrade with command sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:25] <mns> Muphrid: I'm new to the ubuntu world.  coming from pure debian, I'm used to running debian/testing.
[04:25] <mns> Muphrid: is there any particular reason to not do the same sort of behaviour with ubuntu/xubuntu ?
[04:26] <bobweaver> mns,  do-release-upgrade is kinda like taking and changing all the sources ist things in debian from wheezy to sid
[04:26] <bobweaver> mns,  I run unity 2d (ubuntu tv )and that is not in >= 12.10
[04:26] <mns> bobweaver: ok thanks.  I'll use that.
[04:26] <Muphrid> mns: ok, you can go to the update manager, then settings and check for "notify me of -> normal releases" do upgrade with a GUI, or do it on the console as said
[04:27] <Muphrid> mns: the main issues are hardware related, i think youre fine with that
[04:27] <mns> bobweaver: ahh they got rid of it ? I thought that was the best part of unity !
[04:28] <mns> Muphrid: ok, thanks.
[04:29] <bobweaver> mns,  lets notntalk about that I am a qml dev ;)
[04:29] <mns> lol bobweaver
[04:30] <mns> bobweaver: keep up the good work
[04:30] <bobweaver> lol thanks here is example of my work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLCVSR9VPtQ
[04:30] <mns> I'm just a simple guy .. all I need is pure X11, tiling window manager and that's it.  more keyboard oriented then mouse oriented.
[04:32] <mns> bobweaver: that is some awesome shit you've got there.  nice work.
[04:32] <mns> and the thing I notice si the Netflix icon lol
[04:32] <bobweaver> yeah you do not have netflix-esktop ?
[04:32] <bobweaver> mns, ^^ ]
[04:33] <mns> didn't even know that was there lol
[04:33] <mns> will have to search for it :)
[04:33] <bobweaver> yeah works great mns  wine-compholio
[04:33] <bobweaver> mns,  there is a ppa for it
[04:34] <mns> so its probablyu in ubuntu software center rather then via aptitude
[04:34] <mcsmash> so yeah... installed Ubuntu 12.04.1, and then 12.10 on my laptop...
[04:35] <mns> mcsmash: how did that go for you ?
[04:35] <mcsmash> My laptop not terribly happy at the moment.
[04:35] <mcsmash> *laptop's
[04:35] <bobweaver> mns,  No you have to add repo
[04:35] <mns> mcsmash: what type of laptop ?
[04:35] <Schuetrumpf2> I'm having an apt-get issue if anyone's available to answer.
[04:35] <bobweaver> Ask away Schuetrumpf2
[04:35] <mns> bobweaver: ok will find it and add it.
[04:35] <jay_why_bee> I need postfix help.  I have tested a change in a virtual machine to make postfix put all new email in ~/Mailbox.  In main.cf: home_mailbox = Mailbox.  But I cannot get my server (actual production) do do this?
[04:36] <jay_why_bee> I have tried totally purging postfix, and setting up from scratch.
[04:36] <bobweaver> mns,  http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[04:36] <Schuetrumpf2> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 server....I'm attempting to update my repos (apt-get update) and it's giving me nothing but 404 errors. When I try to visit archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, there is no maverick directory...
[04:36] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  that is because it is not supported
[04:37] <bobweaver> !eof
[04:37] <Schuetrumpf2> When did that change? It was supported last month.
[04:37] <mns> bobweaver: thanks.
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  10.10 has not been supported for a while
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  no security upgrades or anything for a while now
[04:38] <Schuetrumpf2> I installed a bunch of software through apt-get on 10.10 less than a month ago.
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  why not move it up to 12.04 ?
[04:39] <Schuetrumpf2> Because the servers that I'm running on it run very poorly on 12.04.
[04:39] <UpgradeWoes> I've looked ALL over the Web and found no solution that worked for me.  I have tried 8 different ways to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04, but even though the upgrade completes properly, when 12.04 boots up, it loses my ethernet card and thus my connectivity.  I'm old to networking but new to the Linux world and I cannot figure out why it recognizes my card perfectly in 11.10 and during the upgrade, but then loses it after the reboot.
[04:39] <bobweaver> !eol | Schuetrumpf2
[04:42] <jay_why_bee> Any postfix gurus out there?
[04:42] <Schuetrumpf2> So I should only need to update my repos to use old-releases instead of archive?
[04:42] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  I would say that it is kernels doing . can you see the card ? " lspci -vnn " or  "lsusb" for usb
[04:43] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  none of that is supported around here
[04:43] <bawig1>  /part
[04:43] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I am back on 11.10 so I can't run any diagnostics now (unless I set it up in a virtual machine which is one thing I have not tried), but I recall that it did not even see eth0.
[04:44] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  even on 11.10 what is card ?
[04:45] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Here is the info...Ethernet controller [0200]: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet [1186:1002] (rev 12) 	Subsystem: D-Link System Inc Device [1186:1040] 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5 	I/O ports at a000 [size=128] 	Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] 	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 40010000 [disabled] [size=64K] 	Capabilities: <access denied> 	Kernel driver in use: sundan
[04:46] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  so this is how I debug networking.   1) make sure that the card is know by the kernel. (lspci -vnn) . Look though the list or filter it out.  If it si there maybe the driver is not installed right (aka mod) . use lsmod to see what drivers are installed. ok thouse are all installed and kernel sees it but no internet still . start pinging and tracerouting but by this point one should have control
[04:47] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  see the number that is in the [] for you  [1186:1002]  what happens if you http://googlubuntu.com  search that ?
[04:48] <Bubo> What is googlubuntu lol
[04:48] <bobweaver> !bug 30707 | UpgradeWoes
[04:49] <Tech-1> thats pretty old
[04:49] <bobweaver> yeah that is what I thought also
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I'm at a loss as to what that bug information means.  Sorry, but could you tell me if it's even possible to resolve?
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> ubottu: Are you saying there's a fix for this?
[04:50] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  it looks like it has been fixed.
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> Tech-l: Yes...it's an old PC I'm trying to revive and use as a web server for a small project of mine.
[04:51] <Abhijit> hi.
[04:51] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  can you PASTEBIN the out put of lsmod  to use from this computer ?
[04:51] <Abhijit> how can i setup and use the dsl connection totally via command line? no gui? help please.
[04:52] <Abhijit> in 12.04
[04:52] <Tech-1> id prolly just buy a pci card and be done with it
[04:52] <bazhang> !wifi | Abhijit have a read
[04:52] <Abhijit> ok
[04:52] <Abhijit> bazhang, its not wireless. its wired. the dsl.
[04:53] <bazhang> Abhijit, sudo dhclient eth0
[04:53] <Abhijit> ok
[04:54] <bobweaver> PPoe
[04:54] <bobweaver> er
[04:54] <bjrohan> I am trying to run windows8 64 bit in VirtualBox and get a 64 bit error message, can anyone help?
[04:55] <artichoku> bjrohan, what's the error
[04:55] <bjrohan> VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.
[04:55] <bjrohan> Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.
[04:55] <artichoku> o.0
[04:56] <artichoku> not a clue sir/ma'am
[04:56] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/3pgCD7H6
[04:56] <bjrohan> ok
[04:57] <bobweaver> bjrohan,  you have gone into bios and looked around for that  ?
[04:57] <UpgradeWoes> Tech-l: I'm not sure if that PC has a PCI slot.  I know I could get an adaptor, but I'm trying to not invest into more hardware for this PC.  It doesn't even have a USB port or a DVD drive.
[04:58] <testestset> ls
[05:07] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I am looking at the information provided by ubottu, but I don't really know what they are saying.  Am I supposed to enter that text into a file or is that a file I can download and replace?: bug 30707 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "ipg driver incorrectly loaded for D-Link DL2000 cards" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30707
[05:07] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  again it looks like it has been fixed
[05:07] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  sorry kinda busy programming atm
[05:09] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Thanks!
[05:10] <nodeman> hello
[05:11] <bjrohan> Alrighty then, the BIOS had a place to turn on what the error message in virtualbox told me to. Now VB warns me to turn in 32 bit display (vs default 24)
[05:36] <sam-palmisano> hi alice
[05:40] <tk__> may i ask something about dkms
[05:40] <megharsh> how can i create a local ubuntu mirror ?
[05:40] <tk__> how to use it
[05:40] <dr_willis> !dkms
[05:40] <wh0dat> when cloning hdd's with ddrescue does it not copy over the boot record as well? the new drive wont boot, but when mounting it, all the files are there.
[05:41] <dr_willis> wh0dat:  depeneds on the exact dd/ddrescue command you used. I belive. I dont recall ever using ddrescue for the mbr , Normally you ddrescue a partion, not a whole drive.
[05:42] <wh0dat> dr_willis: yeah I did the whole drive, all the partitions are there, though. guess I will just run the command to make it bootable.
[05:46] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror | megharsh
[05:50] <mns> If I'm using xubuntu, how do I swap CapsLock and Control ?
[05:50] <chocka> Guys, I have a new windows 8 laptop and I try to install ubuntu
[05:50] <chocka> but the LiveUSB is not recognized when I reboot the system
[05:52] <[1]Nate> Hi! I need some help with Ubuntu recognizing my external hard drive
[05:53] <Nightwatch> can someone help me with vsftpd.conf - trying to lock users in their home directory
[05:53] <Nightwatch> everything I read tells me to do something different
[05:54] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_local_user=YES
[05:54] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_local_user=No
[05:54] <[1]Nate> does anyone know how to get ubuntu studio to recognize my external drive? It's 3 TB
[05:55] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_list_enable=YES
[05:55] <Nightwatch> and create a list
[06:01] <[1]Nate> The brand is Toshiba, and the model number is HDWC130XK3J1
[06:01] <Ghoul_> Um, hi guys
[06:03] <Ghoul_> I need some help w/ ufw on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:03] <bazhang> Ghoul_, got gufw installed?
[06:03] <Ghoul_> just ufw
[06:03] <Ghoul_> apt-get install ufw
[06:03] <Ghoul_> Its a server running desktop ubuntu because its all my host would provide
[06:03] <bazhang> Ghoul_, gufw is the gui tool for that
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Oh, I dont have graphical
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Only ssh
[06:04] <bazhang> Ghoul_, so whats the issue
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Uh when I run ufw enable
[06:04] <Ghoul_> I get a failure on ufw init
[06:04] <Ghoul_> I took a trace
[06:04] <bazhang> !enter | Ghoul_
[06:04] <Ghoul_> http://privatepaste.com/db509c2842
[06:05] <Ghoul_> I have not changed any of the configuration files or edited any of the rules
[06:07] <dr_willis> a desktop ubuntu with ssh only? ;)
[06:08] <dr_willis> one whould be carefull with firewall rules when you can only ssh in. It would suck to lock yourself out.
[06:08] <Ghoul_> Yeah, I've done it twice already.
[06:08] <dr_willis> why do you even need any firewall?
[06:08] <Ghoul_> I made sure this time to add ufw allow ssh right after
[06:08] <Ghoul_> It's a server
[06:09] <dr_willis> and what specifically are you firewalling?
[06:11] <Ghoul_> Well, I prefer to use ufw as an easy way of configuring iptables
[06:11] <Ghoul_> I'm using the server as both a development web server and a vpn so there are alot of rules I need to configure
[06:12] <eristikophiles> so, i keep getting this "too many files open" error in terminal, and i can't run any programs generally. i can't reboot because it won't run reboot.. which is annoying; last time i rebooted and the error went away, at least until now. i still don't get exactly what the too many files open thing means though. i googled and just found random stuff
[06:12] <eristikophiles> anyone have any insights into this issue?
[06:13] <dr_willis> theres a limit i recall on the # of open files avaiable.. but i thought it was a huge number.
[06:13] <dr_willis> are you runing any services or doing anything unusual?
[06:14] <penguinman> possibly something in .bashrc if it only happens in a terminal
[06:14] <Ghoul_> Looks like the ufw bug is due to apt lag
[06:14] <Ghoul_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ufw/+bug/1065297
[06:14] <john_sc_net> i have used and programmed on linux/unix for years but never really played with ubuntu/suse flavors when it comes to sudo, or sudo is part of SElinux and not specific to ubuntu/suse? Im asking cause I did 'sudo su | passwd' and set the root pass; was able to login using putty directly to root without using non root username + sudo. However, now the root pass has changed again; i know im typing the right pass. Does ubuntu man
[06:14] <john_sc_net> ually generate the admin pass?
[06:15] <Snowie> hi all. command line mistage. wanted to move all files in sub directories into the current, had a brainfart and used $ mv ./*/* ./*
[06:15] <dr_willis> jonathaN:  use sudo to do rooty tasks in ubuntu. you dont need to set a root password.
[06:15] <john_sc_net> does suse/ubuntu randomly generate pass on boot, is what im asking
[06:15] <dr_willis> oops wront nick .:)
[06:15] <Snowie> of course, all the files and folders are now missing. anyway to recover from this?
[06:15] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  you do realize that suse is NOT related to ubuntu?
[06:15] <john_sc_net> yeah but they both have sudo
[06:15] <dr_willis> john_sc_net: :  use sudo to do rooty tasks in ubuntu. you dont need to set a root password.
[06:15] <dr_willis> lots of disrtos use sudo..
[06:16] <john_sc_net> so its part of selinux?
[06:16] <dr_willis> Not part of selinux that i am aware of.
[06:16] <cjae> How do I add snes9x that I downloaded from their website to my ubuntu system. I know the binary needs to be linked or maybe stored in /usr/bin but where do the other components of the program go?
[06:16] <dr_willis> sudo can be used on any disrto you want.
[06:16] <dr_willis> cjae:  what other parts?
[06:16] <bazhang> cjae, why not just install from repos
[06:16] <penguinman> cjae, actually, i think snes9x is available from the repos
[06:16] <cjae> its not there
[06:16] <john_sc_net> i usually have to disable selinux on centos; i need root pass. I dont run anything as root, just to configure. pain to add "sudo" to every script
[06:16] <bjrohan> Can anyone give me pointers as to how , in VirtualBox, to make the guest o/s screen bigger? I can expand the ubunutu window, but the guest desktop stays the same size
[06:17] <dr_willis> snes9x was in the repos ages ago.
[06:17] <Muphrid> cjae: there a ppa for it
[06:17] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  i would learn to get into the sudo habbit.
[06:17] <cjae> was kind of hoping to learn something as well
[06:17] <Snowie> bjrohan, i think you use the os's tools to change the resolution
[06:17] <dr_willis> you don t'need'  the root pass. you are just used to a  differnt way.
[06:18] <bjrohan> Snowie: Thanks. In the os window, it even has a scrollbar, so it is bigger, it is just not appearing bigger
[06:18] <Muphrid> cjae: ok, you can invoke it from a terminal if you put the executable in /usr/bin
[06:18] <penguinman> there's always the option to add sudo -i at the beginning of scripts that require root access.
[06:18] <bjrohan> Snowie: I will give the os display a whirl
[06:18] <Muphrid> not sure about the rest of the files
[06:18] <Muphrid> still best to open from the downloaded folder
[06:19] <john_sc_net> this is a virtualbox guest which is only triggered by dhcp and installs Windoze on the clients (requirement of IT department to run both windows and linux dual or guest/host).
[06:19] <Snowie> anyone offer any advice on recovering my files, or am i just boned?
[06:19] <john_sc_net> it boots when dhcp sees a mac address statically pooled for network boot
[06:20] <Ghoul_> Any idea where I should iptables rules for apply on boot/restart if I can't get ufw working?
[06:20] <murlidhar> err how to upgrade to 10.10 . i have downloaded the iso and made a usb start up disk . now what ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> murlidhar:  what release are you using now?
[06:20] <murlidhar> 12.04
[06:21] <murlidhar> oops i mean i want to upgrade to 12.10
[06:21] <dr_willis> You ment 12.10 :) heh...
[06:21] <murlidhar> yeah :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> if you boot the 12.10 thing . i THINK it will ask to upgrade.
[06:21] <murlidhar> na it isn't asking
[06:21] <Ghoul_> can we upgrade using apt?
[06:21] <dr_willis> could be faster to just do a clean install
[06:21] <john_sc_net> yes ghoul
[06:21] <john_sc_net> sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <murlidhar> na i don't want to lose my settings
[06:21] <dr_willis> there are specific tools to upgrade to the next release
[06:22] <murlidhar> like ?
[06:22] <dr_willis> do-release-upgrade   i belive is the command.
[06:22] <dr_willis> theres some options to upgrade to non LTS releses from a LTS release however that may be needed
[06:22] <murlidhar> but that would upgrade online only i guess
[06:22] <Ghoul_> dist-upgrade
[06:22] <Ghoul_> apt-get dist-upgrade is the command , Ithink
[06:22] <murlidhar> i have already downloaded the iso
[06:22] <dr_willis> Ghoul_:  nope.. thats not it.
[06:22] <murlidhar> and can't rely on online upgrade ( bad internet conn )
[06:22] <dr_willis> that will not upgrade to the next release.
[06:23] <Ghoul_> oops, just ran it. What does it do.
[06:23] <bjrohan> Snowie: That helped quite a bit. Not fully, but much better, thanks!
[06:23] <dr_willis> just a more intensive upgrade.
[06:23] <IdleOne> 12.04 is set to only do LTS upgrades by default, you need to Change the setting in Software Sources which can be done via the Software Center
[06:23] <dr_willis> murlidhar:  i was thinking if you just mounted the iso, it would ask you if you wanted to upgrade also.. but i rarely upgrade
[06:24] <IdleOne> do-release-upgrade won't work unless that setting is set to Normal Releases
[06:24] <Snowie> $ mv ./*/* ./*       boned or method to recover. is it possible all my data is still there just named * (as in nothing/anything/everything)?
[06:24] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:24] <Snowie> bjrohan, np
[06:24] <john_sc_net> i was compiling my kernels on centos for the hardware and cpu features not on by default in linux-kernel-xx.srpm; optimized for cpu. Using ubuntu as a VM guest, I shouldnt compile or set any specific options to tell ubuntu its "sharing" resources, for optimization?
[06:24] <murlidhar> dr_willis:  yes by default it should ask. i remember last time it happened
[06:24] <murlidhar> but this time i dont know why it isn't asking :|
[06:24] <murlidhar> thanks for the link though
[06:24] <murlidhar> will read it
[06:25] <john_sc_net> oh whats the development packages on apt-get?
[06:26] <Ghoul_> Is there a way to downgrade iptables?
[06:26] <malkauns> where can u get the latest compiz?
[06:26] <dr_willis> malkauns:  from a PPA would be the safest bet.
[06:26] <malkauns> dr_willis, which ppa?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !ppa
[06:27] <Snowie> $ mv ./*/* ./*      would scalpel see and recover these files?
[06:27] <dr_willis> use the ppa search features/tools
[06:27] <eristikophiles> dr_willis- no i'm not running anything that complicated. it's only a desktop box, mostly just text-chats.
[06:28] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i would think something is running crazy if you are getting to many open files as a normal user.
[06:28] <eristikophiles> i read somewhere you can edit the number of tasks you're running but not sure whether that would actually help; i mean, that may just crash the system if i do it wrong
[06:28] <dr_willis> the default is like a very high number. ;)
[06:28] <Ben64> eristikophiles: what does "ulimit" say
[06:29] <Septima> Snowie: be worth a try
[06:29] <eristikophiles> ok so, running things through gui, i get an error from KDE saying that the file has no type= entry.. which they should, since i've been using those shortcuts for a couple years
[06:29] <dr_willis> Use the following command command to display maximum number of open file descriptors:
[06:29] <dr_willis> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:29] <eristikophiles> i did upgrade to the newer kubuntu recently, but how that'd cause problems i don't know
[06:29] <Snowie> Septima, would you agree that other than that im boned with out full hdd recovery?
[06:29] <eristikophiles> there were no config files that were radically changed
[06:29] <Septima> Snowie: probably, without backups
[06:29] <dr_willis> what newer kernel?
[06:29] <Snowie> Septima, thanks mate. will give that a go.
[06:30] <eristikophiles> Ben64- it says it can't open the shared object file / too many files open in system
[06:30] <eristikophiles> basically i can't run anything. including reboot.
[06:30] <eristikophiles> ..i know i could hard-boot, but i'd prefer to stay on irc and such for now.
[06:31] <john_sc_net> ubuntu is confusing for me cause we can do /sbin/service x start;stop;restart;etc; no i havent been able to start/stop one service
[06:31] <dr_willis> i wonder how you can see whats got all the open files
[06:31] <Ben64> lsof
[06:31] <Ben64> which might not run : /
[06:31] <dr_willis> sudo service servicename start/stop/whatever
[06:32] <john_sc_net> tried that, service not found
[06:32] <Septima> why doesn't that work for iptables in ubuntu?
[06:32] <john_sc_net> the actual binary
[06:32] <eristikophiles> lsof won't run either
[06:32] <eristikophiles> it's kinda amazing the system works at all, except it's also sort of scary frustrating.
[06:32] <dr_willis> sudo service ushare start
[06:32] <Ben64> eristikophiles: you might want to reboot then come back in here
[06:32] <eristikophiles> yeah lol
[06:32] <Ben64> !reisub
[06:33] <john_sc_net> how do you search for packages with apt-get?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !apt
[06:33] <bazhang> john_sc_net, apt-cache search name
[06:33] <dr_willis> apt-cache search pattern
[06:33] <john_sc_net> cache, ok
[06:34] <eristikophiles> i'll show up on my other box so i can stay online in case something is odd
[06:36] <eristik> yeah so, exiting kde with ctrl-alt-backspace, then logging in on the F1 shell, i can do lsof
[06:36] <eristik> what was the other thing to try? i can't remember
[06:36] <dr_willis> eristik:  its possibl when you exited..it closed all the files that were open
[06:36] <eristik> maybe
[06:36] <wchan_> whats a good image viewer?  the gnome default one has horrible pixilation on ultra high resolution images down sampled on monitor
[06:37] <john_sc_net> sorry for bugging you guys; happy holidays and new year. one last question. what the hell is up with the run levels, NOTHING changes anything to type init 3-5. i cant get x server to quit starting at boot
[06:37] <eristik> i didn't remember to try F1 shell until after force-exiting kde
[06:37] <bazhang> !nox | john_sc_net
[06:37] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevels...
[06:37] <bazhang> wchan_, check the package manager , there are a bunch
[06:37] <john_sc_net> yes but in other linux distros there's a service config binary
[06:37] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  sudo service lightdm stop    if you want to stop kdm
[06:38] <john_sc_net> ty
[06:38] <dr_willis> service command works fine here. ;)
[06:38] <fat> anybody knows how to get a GUI for encrypt/decrpt in Ubuntu using seahorse. Seams like it cannot give a clipboard to use for that purpose
[06:38] <bazhang> !runlevel | john_sc_net
[06:38] <eristik> what was the other command to try to see what files are open? i'd seen that one googling but can't remember
[06:38] <dr_willis> The upstart 'cookbook' homepage - has some very well done docs on upstart.
[06:38] <Ben64> eristik: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:38] <john_sc_net> ty
[06:38] <dr_willis> $ cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:38] <dr_willis> 809103
[06:39] <rabbi1> Having problem in displaying correct time in ubuntu 12.04.. I have dual boot with Windows XP. I have checked /etc/default/rcS ... under this file i have tried both UTC=yes and UTC=no. but no luck. Any suggestion ?
[06:39] <Ben64> hmm
[06:39] <dr_willis> so a user can have 800000+ files open in a single login session
[06:39] <Ben64> my system returns a higher value... 1207461
[06:39] <john_sc_net> "alias stopx='service lightdm stop'"
[06:39] <eristik> 203398
[06:39] <al3x> .
[06:39] <eristik> is that based on your ram?
[06:39] <john_sc_net> damn ubuntu
[06:39] <Ben64> i think so
[06:39] <Ben64> 12GB of ram = 1207461
[06:39] <bazhang> seahorse-nautilus   fat  you mean this?
[06:39] <eristik> yeah this box is pretty old. 2gb ram
[06:39] <dr_willis> The number of concurrently open file descriptors throughout the system can be changed via /etc/sysctl.conf file under Linux operating systems.
[06:40] <dr_willis> from what im googling. ;)
[06:40] <Ben64> but 809,103 should be fine
[06:40] <dr_willis> these sites may be out-dated
[06:40] <dr_willis> Ihave 8gb-o-ram
[06:40] <Ben64> oh
[06:40] <dr_willis> so it does seem tobe related to your ram amount
[06:40] <eristik> yeah, so, setting it too high could crash the box due to lack of ram, as i suspected
[06:40] <Ben64> eristik: how about "ulimit -n"
[06:40] <dr_willis> ive never seen anyone need to touch it. ;)
[06:41] <eristik> 1024
[06:41] <dr_willis> # ulimit -Hn
[06:41] <dr_willis> # ulimit -Sn
[06:41] <Ben64> eristik: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
[06:41] <eristik> lsof i saved in a text file. i'd have to boot into kde to use it
[06:41] <dr_willis> hard and soft values.. :) not sure what those mean
[06:41] <rabbi1> Having problem in displaying correct time in ubuntu 12.04.. I have dual boot with Windows XP. I have checked /etc/default/rcS ... under this file i have tried both UTC=yes and UTC=no. but no luck. Any suggestion ?
[06:41] <dr_willis> eristik:  nano textfile ;)
[06:42] <eristik> -Hn is 4096 and -Sn is also 1024
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> rabbi1: have you tried using ntp to set your time instead?
[06:42] <rabbi1> aeon-ltd: no idea, suggest me how to please ...
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> !ntp
[06:43] <rabbi1> aeon-ltd: ntp? 'network on' ?
[06:44] <rabbi1> yesh, network time works good. i  used to have that always. but what if i don't have a net available ?
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> rabbi1: heh, no idea.
[06:45] <OerHeks> rabbi1, set your time correct in your bios then
[06:45] <rabbi1> OerHeks: bios? windows shows correct time
[06:45] <dr_willis> I thought if you used UTC=NO then you set your timezone to be GMT/UTC
[06:46] <rabbi1> anyway, let me check and give it a try.......  OerHeks
[06:46] <dr_willis> bios clock +- the timezone modifier.
[06:47] <rabbi1> will check on the bios and be back
[06:47] <fat> bazhang seahorse just create keys and seahorse plugins give option to encrypt/decrpt via Nautilus any files in directories. What I am looking for is to encrypt text, not files in clipcoard or some text editor. It used to be possible in GPA and then copy encypted text to your email.
[06:47] <dr_willis> I rember back in the days when PC's dident even have clocks on the MB.
[06:47] <MK`> whenever I plug in my USB headphones, I need to go into sound preferences and select it as the output so the volume controls will work with it. How can I make it so it recognizes whenever I plug in the headset?
[06:51] <eristik> so yeah.. not sure what's up. i turned it all the way off. i could edit the ulimit # then? or the file-max?
[06:51] <eristik> i'll look and see what lsof said in a minute when i boot it up
[06:51] <rabbi1> friends, I wonder how my bios time was changed all of a sudden. thanks dr_willis OerHeks
[06:51] <dr_willis> eristik:  i would guess its some service or app missbehaveing.. and doing stuff.
[06:51] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  if your mb battery is dead - it can reset the clock
[06:52] <rabbi1> dr_willis: that's the only possibility we can think of now :)  anyway, will have it checked in the next boot after shutdown ....
[06:54] <OerHeks> :-)
[06:54] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  a spider across teh terminals! ;)
[06:55] <john_sc_net> is this right for lightdm.conf in /etc/init...........and runlevel [!0123456]............ to not run on levels 0 - 6?
[06:55] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  if you dont want lightdm to run. you can either use the text option. or rename the /init/lighdm.conf to be lightdm.dontrun
[06:56] <dr_willis> ;) altering the contents of the file.. is another way
[06:56] <dr_willis> then theres like 2 other ways to disable the service.
[06:56] <john_sc_net> but is that the syntax or do i use commas between runlevels?
[06:57] <john_sc_net> i dont want to break it; i also need to conform cause other admins will administer this system
[06:58] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[06:58] <dr_willis> With Upstart 0.6.7, to stop Upstart automatically starting a job, you can either:
[06:58] <dr_willis>     Rename the job configuration file such that it does not end with ".conf".
[06:58] <dr_willis>     Edit the job configuration file and comment out the "start on" stanza using a leading '#'.
[06:59] <younis> pakistan
[06:59] <john_sc_net> hmm ubuntu is more friendly with setting environment
[06:59] <john_sc_net> :)
[06:59] <ILYG> hi guys ! how can tell me , "you need to be identified with services" what`s mean ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> 3rd way -> echo "manual" >> /etc/init/myjob.override
[07:00] <dr_willis> ;) i think theres a 4th way.. but cant find it
[07:00] <john_sc_net> im reading that  ty man
[07:00] <dr_willis> .override only works with newer upstart versions
[07:00] <dr_willis> and i still think user-defined upstart jobs are not in 12.10 *not sure about that*
[07:01] <eristikophiles> hey so, here is a pastebin of lsof: http://pastebin.com/yxqz9cKJ
[07:01] <eristikophiles> i'm not sure whether it'll really help though
[07:01] <eristikophiles> but, can i edit my file max or ulimit without breaking things, do you think?
[07:02] <eristikophiles> note: pastebin will expire
[07:02] <Kartagis> hrm, when I clicked on my program icons to make them launchers, their icon turned into question marks. any ideas?
[07:02] <Kartagis> good morning by the way
[07:02] <Mike1986> how can i get android on my android phone?
[07:03] <Mike1986> ubuntu**
[07:03] <moon`> I try to open this link http://ubuntuone.com/64OujxgkGMv1N2QSoPmXin and I get a bunch of weird symbols
[07:03] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  ive never ever managed to max out my file open limit in the many years of using linux. ;
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <FloodBot1> Mike1986: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i think somthing is running crazy and doing it.. so upping the limit will be just delaying it.
[07:03] <cub> .
[07:04] <john_sc_net> dr_willis, i just dont agree with the way they're creating a service.conf in etc/inittab on that link you posted; they're using a grep script to check to see if filesystem service is up instead of using simply "start on ((filesystem......"
[07:04] <john_sc_net> loook at their startup script for logging
[07:05] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  dosent mean much to me either way really.
[07:05] <dr_willis> eventually upstart will get replaced.. perhaps 3+ releases from now..  so im not too worried about it.
[07:06] <Ben64> I don't understand the point of upstart. It's more confusing and harder to use than init for me
[07:06] <dr_willis> that cookbook site gave info on the reasons Ben64  - its a neat read.
[07:06] <dr_willis> even if most of the problems dont affect normal users.
[07:07] <Ben64> yeah I read it a bunch to figure out my problem, just made it more confusing
[07:08] <Ben64> turns out, you need a static ip address set in /etc/network/interfaces for the dhcp server to start on boot
[07:08] <cub> OR
[07:08] <cub> you can install Windows 7 which will automatically detect ALL network informatio! :)
[07:08] <cub> information**
[07:15] <goddard> how can i use a key with nautilus?
[07:15] <Ben64> goddard: what key
[07:17] <cub> wow installing java on linux is a pain
[07:17] <cub> and they wonder why more ppl dont want to use it
[07:18] <Ben64> if you don't have a support question, bring your trolling elsewhere
[07:18] <cub> stfu you gay ass bitch
[07:19] <Ben64> no thanks
[07:23] <eristikophiles> dr_willis- well, ok. i won't change it. did you take a look at the lsof results? i can't tell if they appear normal or not. i don't tend to run that one much
[07:24] <Ben64> eristikophiles: that was from console with no gui running though, right?
[07:24] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i really cant see much weirdness. it could be the user causing it.. or some rogue system process..
[07:25] <Ben64> on my system, lsof prints over 6000 lines
[07:26] <dr_willis> lsof | wc -l
[07:26] <dr_willis> 36485
[07:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:26] <Ben64> ok, you win
[07:26] <dr_willis> so i could assume that i have 36000+ open  files?
[07:27] <Ben64> yep, but they aren't all "files" in the traditional sense
[07:27]  * dr_willis files that away.
[07:27] <Ben64> dr_willis: I'd have to guess based on your 36485, that you're running bittorrent
[07:28] <dr_willis> Ben64:  not really.
[07:28] <Ben64> :(
[07:28] <dr_willis> my upnp server may be doing it however.
[07:28] <dr_willis> and i am copying a lot of files from hd to hd with mc.
[07:33] <eristikophiles> Ben64- yeah it was
[07:33] <eristikophiles> sorry for the delays in response
[07:33] <eristikophiles> i have no idea what it'd be either. i mean, other than only having 2gb ram, which isn't *that* bad..
[07:33] <Ben64> I'd have to agree with it being a process or service gone crazy
[07:33] <eristikophiles> skype was giving errors, and other crap too
[07:34] <Ben64> if you keep a terminal up with htop running, and it happens again, it might shed some light onto what it is
[07:34] <eristikophiles> i'm going to run htop in the background. if it happens again, at least i'll have that letting me know things
[07:34] <eristikophiles> (it doesn't seem to effect already-running apps)
[07:35] <jiwan> why my ubuntu too slow to show the desktop while entering password?
[07:41] <dr_willis> jiwan:  You may want to rephrase that
[07:49] <eristikophiles> well, thanks for the help y'all. i'll try to mess with this again when it next occurs, see if i can get better data on it
[07:51] <Unknown0BC> Have you ever had that feeling that you are going completely insane ?
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> My evolution email client is working fine, yet when I look at the .evolution directory there is just about nothing in it.
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> I wanted to back up my evolution directory and noticed that its so small ? It suppose to be about 80 megs.
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> now its a couple of kb.
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> How is that possible ?
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> Lets run through the facts. 1) Evolution email client stores all its data in the .evolution directory found in a user's home directory.
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> true or false ?
[07:53] <slnls> evolution stores mail somewhere else iirc
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> yeah ?
[07:54] <Unknown0BC> Where I could have sworn it was the .evolution directory for years now...
[07:54] <Joe23> Hi Everyone, I am in need of some ubuntu networking advice
[07:54] <Joe23> for some reason, whenever I try adding an ip address to an interface, it just ....disappears.... after a few dozen seconds
[07:55] <Joe23> the ip address disappears, not the interface
[07:55] <slnls> Unknown0BC: why dont you just use the evolution backup-function. that is built into evolution?
[07:55] <Joe23> has anyone ever seen anything like this?
[07:55] <Joe23> or does anyone have an idea on where to look for clues?
[07:56] <Unknown0BC> slnls, maybe I just should, however this does not  make me sane again. I have been backing up evolution for years by just copying the .evolution directory. Now its virtually empty yet my evolution is fine.
[07:56] <slnls> Unknown0BC: ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db   there should be everything evolution saves. but the backup function of evolution works just fine, so use this
[07:56] <kevinlu310> Power Statistics is showing incorrect battery information. How can I correct it manually? I'm on 12.04 LTS.
[07:58]  * Unknown0BC frowns
[07:59] <Unknown0BC> I think I should not let females mess up my head.
[07:59] <txthinking> !date
[07:59] <Unknown0BC> But they are so sweet.
[08:00] <szx> have anyone had an issue when you press RMB ones it does a double click instead?
[08:00] <szx> once*
[08:00] <szx> could this be a bug in X server?
[08:00] <john_sc_net> is this valid as init/*.conf:    start on started filesystem and started auditd
[08:01] <Unknown0BC> slnls, thanks.
[08:01] <john_sc_net> evolution = imap?
[08:02] <john_sc_net> i like dovecot and ldap
[08:03] <slnls> Unknown0BC: however, evolution saves everything in one file iirc. which i find bad for backup reasons. maybe you want to try something else, like claws mail.
[08:03] <slnls> evolution is mbox iirc
[08:03] <john_sc_net> oh wa sjust guessing based on folders.db
[08:04] <slnls> evolution is very easy to use, though
[08:04] <slnls> imap is a protocol and has nothing to do with evolution
[08:04] <john_sc_net> dovecot has some serious security options thoug
[08:04] <slnls> john_sc_net: which?
[08:04] <john_sc_net> i know i meant imap/pop3 daemon
[08:05] <john_sc_net> it allows to layer security encryptions and integrates with iptables to automatically block brute force, etc
[08:06] <slnls> if you are into security you should probably work with starttls and encrypt your emails via PGP or similar
[08:06] <john_sc_net> im talking about encryption from client to server, not the actual mails, that is still an option with this
[08:07] <slnls> i cant see the benefits over starttls and PGP
[08:08] <vox> who is the unmitigated genius ubuntu dev that decided if a raidset cannot be assembled at boot, the entire system will ONLY go to busybox(regardless of if you tell it to ignore the failed assembly), even if the raidset has ZERO to do with the operating system itself?
[08:08] <john_sc_net> i setup a vpn layered with normal tls where people could vpn to dovecot using their email logins, etc; ability to add users using dovecot command instead of just in ldap/mysql
[08:08] <john_sc_net> at one point
[08:09] <slnls> john_sc_net: i dont understand. me noob.
[08:10] <john_sc_net> double encryption capability, if they were paranoid
[08:10] <john_sc_net> their choice to vpn to dovecot server; they couldnt use vpn to get to internet
[08:10] <john_sc_net> just to services on server
[08:11] <aaditya> v
[08:12] <eFfeM> hi, where does unity store its startup settings (what windows are opened when started) and/or how can I modify that ?
[08:12] <handong> hi
[08:12] <aaditya> helo
[08:12] <aaditya> ho u
[08:13] <handong> how to use chinese
[08:13] <handong> ?
[08:13] <john_sc_net> when they vpn, they would have some things ignored; i had checks to see how many connections a certain subnet was trying within a given time and to see how many of the connections went through and finished (they got logged into the service they connected to, did whatever, and finished). If there was 20 or 30 connections within 1 minute that didnt go anywhere (portscans) their ip would get blocked. Normal users will make a lo
[08:13] <john_sc_net> t of connections to; so anytime a login was successful, their ip would get ignored for this one check.
[08:13] <slnls> eFfeM: click where you shutdown your pc. upper right. click startup-programs there.
[08:13] <dr_willis> eFfeM:  if you mean by what files get auto ran at login. theres ~/.config/autostart/  and /etc/xdg/autostart/
[08:13] <dr_willis> !zn | handong
[08:14] <eFfeM> slnls: dr_willis thanks for the advice, will peek at it
[08:14] <dr_willis> hmm.. whats the ! for chinease.. :) i forget
[08:14] <handong> !zh
[08:14] <handong> think you
[08:14] <dr_willis> zh? how do you get zh from chinese. ;) no wonder i frogot it.
[08:15] <slnls> zhinese?
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> zhongwen
[08:15] <viv> helo
[08:15] <serp_> zhongwen is chinese for chinese
[08:16] <eFfeM> slnls: dr_willis: thanks; used the startup programs but also peeked at the autostart file; had a window that started too big, fixed the --geometry and now it is ok
[08:16] <Snurre86> i used this guide http://www.tecmint.com/install-vlc-2-0-5-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-linux-mint-14/ to add a ppa for vlc, this gets me version 2.0.6 but te newest version is 2.0.5. Is this a scam
[08:17] <handong> it's my first time use irssi.
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[08:17] <john_sc_net> when i do security, i look at connections as scales. if they do something supcious enough times but isnt very serious it would tip the scales to more suspicious. i had a conntrack in iptables to keep up with their "suspicious level" and things they did (sending certain tcp flags is one, like state new and no SYN flag is one :)
[08:18] <john_sc_net> high enough level, they get permanently blocked
[08:19] <ubunoob> Hello all, I install squid and was messing around with it, I messed up my config so I uninstalled squid using software centre and deleted the squid3 folder in etc
[08:19] <john_sc_net> speaking of which, does ubuntu have iptables-conntrack installed by default?
[08:19] <john_sc_net> and ubuntu setup didnt give any option to configure packages
[08:19] <ubunoob> When I reinstall it it doesn't recreate these folders and the config files, can anyone help me?
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> ubunoob: have you tried using it? does it write the files?
[08:21] <john_sc_net> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[08:21] <john_sc_net> oops
[08:21] <ubunoob> @aeon-ltd yes I tried to run it after reinstall I get 'FATAL: Unable to open configuration file: /etc/squid3/squid.conf: (2) No such file or directory'
[08:22] <john_sc_net> http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[08:22] <viv> hi
[08:22] <john_sc_net> yeah ubunoob you have to create the config file
[08:22] <john_sc_net> the default one is what i linked
[08:22] <ubunoob> @john_sc_net is the default available online somewhere?
[08:23] <john_sc_net> http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[08:24] <ubunoob> @john_sc_net wow. . I feel stupid, I even saw that yesterday come to think of it. will try and do it right now. .
[08:25] <aaditya__> hi
[08:25] <jiwan> hi
[08:26] <aaditya__> hello jivan
[08:26] <john_sc_net> wow thats cool; upstart constantly monitors /etc/init folder for changes
[08:26] <jiwan> why my ubuntu slow starts after entering password?
[08:26] <handong> hello,where can study the irssi document
[08:26] <john_sc_net> instead of having to run a command to have it update service list
[08:26] <john_sc_net> jiwan how are you running ubuntu?
[08:26] <jiwan> yeah
[08:27] <jiwan> it takes almost 30 second to show the desktop.
[08:27] <jiwan> sometimes around of 40
[08:27] <aaditya__> hi
[08:27] <john_sc_net> @ handong
[08:27] <john_sc_net> man irssi
[08:28] <handong> !
[08:28] <john_sc_net> happy holidays
[08:29] <handong> why don't you speak chinese?????
[08:29] <aaditya__> hi
[08:29] <jiwan> anye here who can solve me?
[08:30] <handong> !zh
[08:31] <handong> 这里禁止说中文吗？
[08:31] <aaditya__> uouiu
[08:31] <aaditya__> have any girl
[08:31] <somsip> !support | aaditya__
[08:32] <what_up1> how can i tell what version of ubuntu i'm running and if i should update?
[08:32] <somsip> aaditya__: so it isn't for chat
[08:32] <dr_willis> jiwan:  try disabling some of the auto starting stuff perhaps in ~/.config/autostart/ and /etc/xdg/autostart/ perhaps
[08:32] <dr_willis> !version | what_up1
[08:33] <what_left> i have intrepid. should i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:33] <handong> !version]
[08:33] <handong> !version
[08:33] <what_left> ya i saw that
[08:33] <what_left> thanks though
[08:34] <jiwan> there is nothing │~/.config/autostart
[08:35] <dufa> what_left: if you intend to upgrade to 12.10 you might consider a backup and fresh install
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-screensaver.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-settings-daemon.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-sound-applet.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-user-share.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gsettings-data-convert.desktop
[08:35] <FloodBot1> jiwan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <jiwan> ok
[08:36] <jiwan> sorry
[08:36] <jiwan> but tell how to manage it
[08:38] <jiwan> hey what after pasting it?
[08:38] <dufa> jiwan: enter the link to the paste in the chat
[08:39] <what_left> does xubuntu fit on cds anymore?
[08:39] <euax> jiwan: after access to the web page and paste your text, will be created a link.
[08:40] <jiwan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1472134/
[08:40] <jiwan> this is the link
[08:40] <dr_willis> what_left:  i think xubuntu and lubuttu fit on cd. but im not 100% sure about xubuntu. ;)
[08:40] <harpal> I am having i3 processor and 6GB or RAM. Should I install ubuntu desktop? or ubuntu server?
[08:40] <what_left> what's lighterweight, xubuntu or lubuntu?
[08:41] <what_left> harpal: what is your usecase?
[08:41] <dr_willis> lubuntu is the lightest 'desktop'
[08:41] <dufa> jiwan: those are the files in ~/.config/autostart, yes?
[08:41] <aeon-ltd> what_left: lubuntu, it's mostly just openbox which is a standalone wm
[08:41] <Mike1986> how can i install ubuntu on my phone
[08:41] <dr_willis> jiwan:  move them to some .autostart-disabled directory and see if it helps.
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <dr_willis> Mike1986:  theres vm's in the android market you can use.
[08:41] <harpal> what_left: I am using eclipse and some tools. and system is up most of the time.
[08:41] <FloodBot1> Mike1986: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <dr_willis> wow. he never learns.
[08:42] <jiwan> no this files are from /etc/xdg/autostart
[08:42] <dr_willis> jiwan:  so move them and see if it helps.
[08:42] <what_left> harpal: if you're using eclipse, wouldn't you want some type of desktop?
[08:42] <jiwan> where to move
[08:42] <dr_willis> Mike1986:  theres vm's in the android market you can use..
[08:42] <jiwan> can i remove it randomly?
[08:42] <dr_willis> jiwan:  move them to some .autostart-disabled directory and see if it helps.
[08:42] <jiwan> anywhere/
[08:43] <handong> /yes
[08:43] <dr_willis> i said move.. not 'remove'
[08:43] <harpal> what_left: ya, but server can also install Gnome.
[08:43] <jiwan> should i have to create new directory or there is existing one by this name
[08:44] <varunpriolkar97> nvidia
[08:44] <dr_willis> jiwan:  its trivial to make a directory.. so make one.
[08:44] <dr_willis> Its not rocket surgery. ;)
[08:44] <dr_willis> 'move them someplace you will rember so you an move them back later if you want to'
[08:45] <dr_willis> like /etc/xdg/autostart-moved/
[08:45] <gancar> Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:45] <varunpriolkar97> guys how is the support like for gtx 6xx cards?
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> k just wondering what the chances are of clam antivirus on nix breaking my windows install
[08:45] <varunpriolkar97> i am on 4650and am tired of amds crap
[08:45] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  you can have it just scan and report... no chance at all of harm
[08:46] <l057c0d3r> because i've scanned my win pc with three different windows virus scanners and nothing ever came up
[08:46] <l057c0d3r> for kicks i stuck my linux pendrive in and booted up and mounted the windows partition.. and started a virus scan.. and its not even done yet and said there were 536 threats found
[08:46] <gancar>  Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:47] <what_left> l057c0d3r: o_o
[08:47] <what_left> l057c0d3r: i recommend you just get rid of that windows installation, since clamav isn't even close to top tier in terms of identifying them
[08:47] <l057c0d3r> i know right.. thats why i'm thinking it might cripple windows on me if it actually tries to fix the issues
[08:48] <dr_willis> there are live-av-cds made by avast and some other av makers you mayt want to test out
[08:48] <what_left> l057c0d3r: are there any actual issues you're encoutnering?
[08:48] <what_left> *encountering
[08:48] <gancar> Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> what_left, right.. but three different windows scanners ran in windows found nothing
[08:48] <what_left> gancar: that's not really a valid question. do you want to create an ubuntu image for a vps?
[08:48] <gancar> Like a remote desktop connection similar to XP
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> and the windows is a factory install that has only been on there  for 6 months with very little use to it
[08:48] <what_left> gancar: most vpses have default installations, oftentimes including ubuntu among the mix
[08:49] <gancar> Oh
[08:49] <l057c0d3r> not really.. i was just doing the scan for fun... to see what it would say
[08:49] <what_left> gancar: you mean vnc?
[08:49] <dr_willis> dosent take more then 6 min.. to get a windows virus if you do it right. ;) or wrong...
[08:49] <what_left> gancar: for remote desktop, i found TeamViewer to be rather decent
[08:49] <dr_willis> It all depens on what its reporting.. it may be reporting specific things for specific reasons, or having false positives
[08:50] <gancar> See http://bluevm.com
[08:50] <gancar> To install on one of those
[08:50] <l057c0d3r> well dr_willis im starting to think it just thinks windows itself is a virus :-p
[08:50] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  theres always the potential for false positives
[08:50] <l057c0d3r> but yeah..  looking forward to looking over the list of results when it finishes just to see what its reporting
[08:51] <what_left> gancar: that is sketchily cheap
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> so what is a good virus scanner for nix then.. since this said one is supposidly not up to par
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> and i will say this much.... this one is slow... its been scanning for quite some time now
[08:51] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  several companies make  them. clamav is just one of many.
[08:51] <what_left> gancar: prgmr is already on the cheap-as-crap side, and it's like 3x the price
[08:52] <gancar> Yeah but could you install a remotely accessible Ubuntu on there
[08:52] <dr_willis> avg and norton i THINK have linux based live cds
[08:52] <what_left> gancar: assuming they offer what they're claiming to... yeah
[08:52] <dr_willis> or was it mcafee? been a while since i bothered with av apps
[08:52] <gancar> How actually though?
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> right..  how likely is it for a virus to get on linux....  peeps always tell me its a lot safer.. and i know its easy to get them on windows sooo
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> never was fond of avg..
[08:53] <what_left> gancar: install ubuntu, ssh in with x forwarding to install something like xubuntu-desktop (probably wouldn't want unity because of resource constraints), then install something like teamviewer or vncserver on there
[08:54] <gancar> See that is said simply but half of what you said jist made no sense to me :/
[08:55] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  i know of no linux viruses.. biggest danger to a linux box is the users doing somthing stupid
[08:55] <l057c0d3r> right..
[08:55] <what_left> gancar: i imagine when you set up your hosting plan, they ask you what distro you want to run. you select ubuntu, which will probably be ubuntu-server (text only ubuntu)
[08:55] <gancar> Ok
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> i'm not worried about that.. i've broke my system a few times..  nothing that;s not fixable....  i've never had to actually format and reinstall a nix install like windows.....
[08:56] <what_left> gancar: then you ssh in (connect to it) with X forwarding (so you can also see anything that would be displayed), and install/run xubuntu-desktop so that now there's actually a user interface you can work with
[08:56] <gancar> Oh
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> what_left  why not lubuntu-desktoo
[08:56] <what_left> l057c0d3r: either one
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[08:57] <what_left> gancar: from here, you install a more permanent solution for remote viewing, such as TeamViewer, which is something you just download from a certain website and run (it's simple to set up)
[08:58] <gancar> Oh what ssh program to use
[08:58] <what_left> lubuntu 12.10 should run better on a 2005 dell than gnome-based jaunty, right?
[08:58] <what_left> gancar: what OS are you on right now?
[08:59] <gancar> Windows 7
[08:59] <what_left> gancar: i think PuTTY does x forwarding, but am not sure
[08:59] <hero616> Could 2 programs access the same mouse? read("/dev/input/mouse0",...)
[09:00] <bindaasomatic> ubuntu 12.04 laptop touchpad works in xfce but doesn't work in unity ,any idea?
[09:00] <what_left> gancar: if you trust someone with a name as sketchy as what_left from an irc channel, i can maybe have a go at it (though i wouldn't be the best person for the job, and i can't guarantee i'll be around much)
[09:00] <ubunoob> Hi all I was in earlier trying to repair my squid config, I got it right by using the default at http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[09:00] <gancar> What spec would you recommend at http://bluevm.com as a vry minimum?
[09:01] <dufa> gancar: also, if you want bluevm specific support, they have an irc channel at irc.obsidianirc.net #bluevm, they might be able to help you as well
[09:01] <Mongolski> hej
[09:01] <ubunoob> I followed the instructions step for step from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html up to step 3 but all I get now is that the proxy is refusing connections. can anyone help?
[09:01] <gancar> Yes i used to be an oper there :)
[09:01] <gancar> Ok if u want to
[09:02] <dufa> gancar: what specs are minimum will depend on what you plan to do with the vps
[09:02] <what_left> i would imagine the bluevm3 should be sufficient for really basic use with lubuntu
[09:03] <ubunoob> I messed up my config yesterday so I really just need someone to show me how to do it right
[09:03] <what_left> 128MB ram might be pushing it these days? who knows
[09:03] <what_left> i remember my first multi-megabyte RAM computer... good times good times
[09:04] <aragorn4> hi. I'm trying to get a high id on aMule, when I do a command: netstat -an | grep "LISTEN "  I see the port listening <IP_ADDRESS>:1058  while all other ports are <IP_ADDRESS>, why is it so?
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> what_left.. i remember when bill gates said no one would ever need more then 512mb hard drive space
[09:04] <what_left> aragorn4: <IP_ADDRESS> is broadcast, isn't it? (or is that <IP_ADDRESS>?)
[09:05] <what_left> l057c0d3r: i don't think he said that?
[09:05] <gancar> Thanks for your help. I'll be back soon on my PC
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> <IP_ADDRESS> is a subnet mask
[09:06] <l057c0d3r> well the exact mb may have been different.. but i know it wasn't much..  and yes he said it
[09:06] <aragorn4> what_left, is it related to having a high ID?
[09:06] <what_left> if i remember my networks course correctly, <IP_ADDRESS> is broadcast which means it's intended for EVERYONE on the network to see
[09:06] <what_left> aragorn4: i know nothing about the software you're using, so i don't know what it would imply
[09:07] <aragorn4> what_left, I mean an open port
[09:07] <l057c0d3r> hmm i always thought it was *.*.*.255 for broadcast
[09:07] <l057c0d3r> usually 192.168.*.255
[09:10] <Catbuntu> hello
[09:11] <iDangerMouse> Hi
[09:12] <llutz> aragorn4: those services with <IP_ADDRESS>:port are only bound to localhost, those with <IP_ADDRESS> to any available iface. <IP_ADDRESS> has nothing to do with broadcast etc.pp
[09:13] <handong> ji
[09:24] <ciccio123456> ciao
[09:24] <ciccio123456> !list
[09:25] <ciccio123456> ciao
[09:25] <dr_willis> Wow.. going to !list again?
[09:25] <ciccio123456> !list
[09:25] <dr_willis> you just dont read do you?
[09:25] <longxiongqiu> ....
[09:25] <llutz> italians are different...
[09:26] <dr_willis> im tempted to start sending them Ubuntu ISO torrent files...
[09:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:26] <somsip> dr_willis: I was told off for sending a !list to someone as soon as they said 'ciao'... ;)
[09:26] <dr_willis> heh
[09:26] <dr_willis> what were they expecting? ;)
[09:26] <somsip> dr_willis: I deserved it, but they did try a !list immediately after
[09:26] <dr_willis> amazeing thing is i ONLY see it in that exact order..
[09:27] <dr_willis> never hello. or aloha. or  buena nochas..
[09:27] <longxiongqiu> my english is not good
[09:29] <Ben64> dr_willis: I don't know what it is, many many italians come in here and !list
[09:29] <c_nick> I need someone to download a video from youtube for me .. and really appreciate if he could send me via dropbox?
[09:30] <c_nick> since youtube is blocked here  I want  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR_CXlJFe2E song
[09:30] <dr_willis> Ben64:  or is it just one? ;)
[09:31] <longxiongqiu> many  websites is blocked in china
[09:31] <brez> hi all, just installed 12.10, Im wondering.. where do I locate the oldmenue subfolders like "internet/grapics" etc?
[09:31] <llutz> dr_willis: one extremly learningresistant italian... i doubt so
[09:32] <dr_willis> its the fbi looking for warezers ;)
[09:33] <dr_willis> brez:  the top left Ubuntu icon is the dash that has items and search and filters to find stuff.. if you 'must' have the classic type menus in unity. theres a few classic-menu indicator applets and other tools out in various ppas
[09:34] <dr_willis> !manual | brez
[09:34] <dr_willis> brez:  'Superkey-A' gets to the applications lens. then you can filter stuff and search and so forth
[09:35] <dr_willis> the 'filter results' check boxs can clean out clutter
[09:35] <brez> dr_willis: - I wasin the dashboard before, and it gave me sub menu options,for the old menus, I just cannot forthe life of me find it again
[09:36] <dr_willis> brez:  i dont recall ever seeing that
[09:36] <brez> I may not of been in dashboard, but certainly somewhere where I could see "internet > empathy, thunderbird, firefox"
[09:37] <dr_willis> i tend to just tap super, then enter what i need.
[09:37] <dr_willis> unless you were using the classic gnome desktop thing.
[09:37] <paul3> Hello
[09:37] <peat88> hello everybody
[09:37] <riderplus> I try to play a vlc online video
[09:38] <riderplus> I get this error
[09:38] <brez> not sure - was in a dashboard like screen.