[13:30] <dcordes> Hello. I am looking to prepare a natty image for use on my cortex-a8 device. Is it save to use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/beta-2/ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta2-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img.gz ?


[04:39] <luna> morning
[06:03] <chiefkief> just curious what do you guys use for storage? ive heard good things about synology, but curious about any others
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> chiefkief: storage is a wide concept, maybe elaborate what kind of ubuntu server storage you need and whats it gonna be used for?
[06:08] <chiefkief> I would just like a file backup, and a way to download books on my tablet from my server
[19:13] <sergiodj> ahasenack_: curl reuploaded, FWIW
[19:13] <sergiodj> if you can take a look at it tomorrow, it'd be great
[19:14] <ahasenack_> ok
[22:11] <gimzmoe> I have a PXE cluster that I boot from a nfsroot, however I think I get into trouble where the kernel version doesn't match the updated version.  apt upgrade recommend "apt --fix-broken install" but that fails trying to remove old linux-image-generic version "dpkg: too many errors, stopping"... I imagine I'm doing something naughty with the updating but I'm not sure
[22:14] <tomreyn> "dpkg: too many errors, stopping" is a pretty clear indicator of something naughty going on, yes
[22:15] <tomreyn> you can't wildly mix kernels versions / builds and ubuntu releases, in case that's something you're doing
[22:18] <gimzmoe> I run several pxe-nodes, but they get their kernel from the tftp... I don't syncronize updates... but maybe I must?
[22:21] <gimzmoe> any idea how I can correct the current problem>
[22:22] <tomreyn> which kernel are you booting (cat /proc/version), which ubuntu version is installed?
[22:23] <tomreyn> "lsb_release -ds" for the latter
[22:25] <gimzmoe> /proc/version  = 5.15.0-70-generic, Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[22:27] <tomreyn> this doesn't seem entirely wrong, if the kernel is an ubuntu one.
[22:28] <gimzmoe> dpkg: linux-image-5.15.0-58-generic: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
[22:28] <gimzmoe> the nfsroot has a very old one it's trying to ditch
[22:28] <tomreyn> maybe apt is failing to remove the linux-image-generic package because it is not actually installed, or not fully? if so, install it first of all.
[22:29] <gimzmoe> I don't think it is
[22:31] <tomreyn> if you can't install the old version, there are --force-... options to dpkg. but you should prevent running into this situation in the first place.
[22:32] <gimzmoe> installing linux-image-5.15.0-58-generic works, but apt wants to install linux-image-unsigned-5.15.0-58-generic
[22:34] <gimzmoe> oh oops... /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub :)
[22:36] <gimzmoe> well that must have been unrelated... :(
[22:39] <tomreyn> in case you'll need more assistence with this, it will be tremendously helpful to provide more shell commands and output
[22:39] <tomreyn> personally, i won't be able to help more for now, though (bed time soon)
[22:40] <gimzmoe> you did a bunch, I think I'm on track to fix it
[22:40] <gimzmoe> g'nite and thanks again
[22:40] <tomreyn> you're welcome


[00:30] <smoser> Jimmy06: did you try running again ?
[00:30] <smoser> there a good shot it will work after a reboot.
[02:37] <ansibleesxi666> Hello all, i need to build a linux server for build purpose , i have some issue with Ubuntu 16 "server" ISO -  boot with UEFI on HP DL 360  Gen 10 box with RAID 0 ssd disks-   Ubuntu 16 "desktop"cd works well , so does it matter much if i use server or desktop?
[02:42] <tomreyn> ansibleesxi666: you can install desktop and convert it to a server installation, but i wuld recommend installing the server installation instead (since converting isn't that easy). by the way, you are probably referring to ubuntu "16.04 LTS", there is no "ubuntu 16"
[02:43] <tomreyn> ansibleesxi666: what is the error message you run into when you try to install using the server installer?
[02:43] <leftyfb> tomreyn: all of this has been discussed in #ubuntu where they asked this same exact question
[02:43] <tomreyn> oh, maybe ansibleesxi666 should refer to those answers then
[02:45] <ansibleesxi666> yes 16.04.05 is what i am using , i see a strange issue, i have 3 SSD disk on box, each with 1 TB, we want to use raid 0 for perf, when i boot box with ISO of server  the OS install shows disk at 600 GB, when i try desktop iso it shows correct size of 3 TB
[02:46] <ansibleesxi666> disk as 600 GB i mean
[02:46] <ansibleesxi666> as i was in rush i used desktop ISO & build them for now
[02:48] <ansibleesxi666> i did google as it says both desktop & server use the same Kernel so i went ahead with Desktop
[02:49] <tomreyn> ansibleesxi666: so did you ask these same questions in #ubuntu before?
[02:51] <ansibleesxi666> i did , i did not got answer so i am here
[02:52] <tomreyn> leftyfb seems to suggest it was diuscussed there before, maybe you missed some reponses (left early)?
[02:52] <tomreyn> !irclogs
[02:55] <tomreyn> if you really got no replies (please point me to when it was previously dsicussed) i'll be happy to go over it with you again.
[03:13] <ansibleesxi666> let me check
[03:13] <ansibleesxi666> No i did not got respond what i was looking for
[03:14] <ansibleesxi666> the last 2 conversation was :-
[03:14] <ansibleesxi666> (7:41:48 PM) leftyfb: ansibleesxi666: when one of those drives goes bad, you will lose all your data
[03:14] <ansibleesxi666> (7:42:33 PM) dxb left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).
[03:14] <ansibleesxi666> (7:43:26 PM) ansibleesxi666: our build team wants less time & they do not care of the data on the build box as the actual build goes in central git repo.... these build nodes are purly for compuete ... but starnage issue is why server iso shows disk size as 600 GB & not 3 TB
[03:14] <ansibleesxi666> brb
[03:30] <ansibleesxi666> i did more google & i think i have work-around  ie in my case a desktop iso or server will not impact much  as the core kernel is same
[03:31] <ansibleesxi666> thanks for your time
[05:05] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:03] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:38] <Jimmy06> smoser: I tried more then 10 times with the same config
[09:58] <muhaha> Has anyone experience with on-prem landscape ?
[11:17] <waveform> muhaha, what's up?
[11:17] <muhaha> @waveform did you try to dockerize this big thing ?
[11:18] <waveform> muhaha, there's juju charms for it but I don't think there's any (official) docker images
[11:18] <blackflow> isn't containerizing it.... contrary to its purpose?
[11:19] <muhaha> Why?
[11:19] <waveform> not necessarily - containers don't *have* to be many to a machine
[11:20] <waveform> for instance, the juju charms are pretty flexible - they typically set up one machine for haproxy, another for pg, etc. etc. - now those might be "real" machines, or they could just be containers
[11:20] <muhaha> I will try to dockerize it, but I will have to understand to this landscape thingy..
[11:21] <muhaha> I dont understand how to start this..  For example -quickstart package is useless for this. I will need to use landscape-server
[11:22] <waveform> you're probably better off looking through what the quickstart script actually does - but trying it out on juju will give you a better idea of what a production setup really looks like
[11:22] <waveform> (we don't recommend quickstart for scalable production deployments)
[11:23] <blackflow> muhaha: in that it has to control the entire machine and dockerizing it is isolating it? or am I misunderstanding something here
[11:28] <muhaha> I dont need to control host machine
[11:29] <muhaha> I need to control other ones...
[11:29] <muhaha> That is why I need some gateway... I does not matter if its running on bare-metal or in container
[11:30] <blackflow> oh, I wasn't aware you could install the server on premises. I thought it was strictly SaaS.
[11:34] <muhaha> unfortunatelly there is no alternative for ubuntu (opensource) to manage other servers :(  So I will have to use landscape. Foreman can not handle this afaik
[11:35] <muhaha> *selfhosted
[11:41] <blackflow> muhaha: there's always salt stack
[11:47] <muhaha> of course there are also ansible and chef
[11:49] <blackflow> ansible is extremely too slow crap. good for simple setups but as you scale up in complexity of config, it's way way way too slow.
[11:50] <blackflow> but the point being, if you want analogous to landscape then saltstack and chef (and puppet) is more appropriate because of the client-server model and ability for clients to trigger events between them.
[14:33] <rharper> Jimmy06: are you running the 18.04.1 release of the installer?
[17:12] <tekgeek1205> So I have a 10G fiber connection that im trying to use for the physical connection to an OpenvSwitch. I need the host to have access to the same interface to serve as a NAS on that port. Im having problems with assigning a static ip address. DHCP works fine but isn't an option, the DHCP server will be a pfSense KVM. I've tried both ports in DHCP and they work fine. I tried both with
[17:12] <tekgeek1205> static configs and I can't get a DNS. I can still ping <IP_ADDRESS> but not google.com. Im sure its just a simple mistake caused by my lack of knowledge. Here is my interfaces file: https://pastebin.com/5v9YvE1p
[17:24] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: what version of ubuntu?
[17:24] <tekgeek1205> 18.04
[17:24] <tekgeek1205> server, i reverted from netplan back to ifupdown
[17:28] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: you can talk to `systemd-resolve` to see how it's resolving hostnames?
[17:28] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[17:29] <tekgeek1205> checking
[17:30] <tekgeek1205> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>....... so its not getting a DNS?
[17:30] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: that's systemd-resolve
[17:30] <nacc_> *systemd-resolved
[17:30] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: so you need to ask `systemd-resolve --status` what it is using
[17:31] <mason> Ah, I was curious how to get systemd-resolved to spit that out.
[17:31] <tekgeek1205> do you want that in past in?
[17:31] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: yeah, that's probably useful
[17:31] <tekgeek1205> the first was the resolve.conf
[17:32] <nacc_> tekgeek1205: or you can just read it, to see what for that iface is listed as 'DNS Servers'
[17:32] <mason> Not sure why they don't populate and maintain a text comment in /etc/resolv.conf since that's where people are going to look. Or even just a comment in that file telling people how to dig out the relevant status.
[17:32] <nacc_> mason: i mostly agree with you :)
[17:32] <mason> nacc_: I skipped the obvious first pick, "don't do that".
[17:33] <tekgeek1205> https://pastebin.com/1QUQReM7
[17:34] <teward> tekgeek1205: is that *all* you are getting?
[17:34] <teward> there's usually other lines than just that
[17:34] <tekgeek1205> yeah with a fresh boot and a static address....
[17:34] <teward> > static address
[17:34] <teward> did you set DNS record data in your netplan config?
[17:35] <teward> and if so, what is it?
[17:35] <tekgeek1205> no im using ifupdown, netplan and openvswitch are incompatible
[17:35] <teward> then did you set dns-nameservers in ifupdown?
[17:36] <tekgeek1205> yeah....https://pastebin.com/5v9YvE1p
[17:36] <tekgeek1205> thats, my interfaces file
[17:36] <mason> dns-nameservers in ifupdown don't negate systemd-resolved jumping in
[17:36] <mason> My hope is that it uses the interfaces information, but I'm not sure
[17:37] <teward> it might not be doing that properly, that's a systemd headache though.
[17:37] <teward> you can force your system to use the other DNS resolvers, but you'd have to fuss around with some ResolveD config files to do it
[17:37] <mason> For my part, I found that purging resolvconf helped.
[17:38] <mason> I haven't tested all permutations.
[17:40] <nacc_> i don't have a 16.04 in front of me, but systemd-resolve --status, should be reporting a per-link entry, i thought
[17:42] <cyphermox> tekgeek1205: mason: teward: "dns-nameserver" only works if you have resolvconf installed
[17:42] <cyphermox> we also don't install that by defualt, because resolvconf and systemd-resolved both want to be authoritative for nameserver info
[17:43] <teward> cyphermox: so if you're using ifupdown with systemd-resolved how do you pass it the DNS servers to query via ifupdown configs?
[17:43] <teward> or would that be a manual step called by `up` in the config?
[17:43] <nacc_> cyphermox: thanks for that info!
[17:43] <cyphermox> teward: nothing you write in ifupdown is pased to systemd-resolved.
[17:43] <cyphermox> or anywhere in systemd for that matter
[17:44] <cyphermox> if you use ifupdown, you need to write resolv.conf yourself, or add your DNS in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf (the DNS= line)
[17:48] <teward> tekgeek1205: ^
[17:48] <teward> cyphermox: is this documented anywhere?
[17:48] <mason> cyphermox: Ah, I must be thinking of my "funny upgrade" I did last week then.
[17:49] <tekgeek1205> waiting on a reboot then, i'll try changeing /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[17:56] <tekgeek1205> Thankyou guys!!! DNS is working! This is my first big projest with linux.I was about to give up and all back to linux brides' untill i could get a 2nd 10gb uplink card for my switches. Im still a bit green in the linux world.
[17:58] <mason> tekgeek1205: \o/
[18:05] <tekgeek1205> now I can go on my merry way setting up containers and vm's. 10gb from my workstation to my server has been a dream for years!!!! Time to put that ZFS array to work!
[18:10] <compdoc> zfs?! oh no!
[18:11] <odc> no?
[18:11] <compdoc> jk :)
[18:11] <odc> ah :)
[18:20] <tekgeek1205> its also the root FS......that was fun
[19:41] <DammitJim> do you guys have any recommendations of what is normally used as a "file server"
[19:42] <DammitJim> like when one of your users logs on to a server via ssh
[19:42] <DammitJim> the current directory where they land is actually a mount to a different server
[19:42] <DammitJim> is that normally done with just a samba server? any other more popular options?
[19:44] <jelly> from unix to unix I'd just use sftp
[19:44] <jelly> and let them connect to the system hosting actual files, no network filesystem use
[19:45] <DammitJim> oh, I meant like if I ssh into serverA which is an application server
[19:45] <DammitJim> I am taken to a directory that is actually part of a mount to serverB
[19:45] <jelly> oh, do you want users to have a $HOME on a shared file server
[19:45] <DammitJim> +1
[19:46] <DammitJim> I've seen that done in the past
[19:46] <DammitJim> and I'm curious as to how that is normally done (especially if the backend file server is redundant)
[19:47] <jelly> we don't do that at all.  NFS v4 supposedly has all sorts of nifty features for that, including clustered nfs, but i have no idea which features actually work well and are reliable
[19:47] <DammitJim> thanks jelly
[19:48] <DammitJim> so, related to this... are there any recommended file server clusters?
[19:48] <DammitJim> in our company, many of the M2M processes just move files around
[19:48] <DammitJim> I'm looking to find a way to store those files on some kind of redundant system in case that I have to do maintenance or upgrades to that resource
[19:53] <Ussat> So....we DO do that with NFS v4
[19:53] <Ussat> its not trivial to set up
[19:54] <Ussat> so what you want is a clustered FS, which, is also not trivial
[19:54] <Ussat> there are a few ways to do it
[19:55] <Ussat> and none of them are simple
[19:55] <tomreyn> there are also those proprietory storage clusters which can export r/w via nfs
[19:55] <Ussat> ^^
[19:56] <jelly> I bet netapp is simple!
[19:56] <Ussat> yup...those are the simplest, although more expensive
[19:56] <Ussat> ...
[19:57] <jelly> glusterfs? ceph? do any of those work not horribly slow?
[19:57] <Ussat> they are not made for speed
[19:57] <Ussat> they are made (in theory) for resiliance
[20:01] <tomreyn> i never used either, but would expect them to work out in this use case, since they are also used for storage backends in clouds
[20:02] <tomreyn> (so there must be ways to configure them to not be super slow)
[20:02] <jelly> don't sotrage backends in clouds just expose objects that are then used as blockdevs
[20:09] <Ussat> They can both be used in this case, but neither are trivial
[20:11] <DammitJim> I've heard of netapp
[20:11] <DammitJim> Ussat, what would you say is the advantage of having a file system cluster?
[20:11] <Ussat> yes...netapp is a thing
[20:12] <DammitJim> yeah, I read about glusterfs and was going to try it out in a virtual lab
[20:12] <Ussat> OK, first you need to differentiate between a cluster enabled FS and a clustered FS
[20:12] <Ussat> what do you want to do
[20:13] <Ussat> the reason I ask, is I work with systems that need to have a VERY high avaliability
[20:13] <DammitJim> so, I'm looking at this from the perspective of: normally a server is the file server
[20:13] <DammitJim> well, if I need to do maintenance on that server or it breaks, then all the applications will bork
[20:13] <Ussat> so you need a cluster
[20:13] <DammitJim> so, I thought... a cluster of servers would take care of that problem
[20:13] <Ussat> correct, it can
[20:14] <DammitJim> so, if serverA goes down, serverB will continue to service whatever the apps need
[20:14] <Ussat> but that is different than a load spread FS
[20:14] <Ussat> cluster
[20:14] <DammitJim> what is the difference between enabled and the other option?
[20:14] <Ussat> you want active <<----->> active
[20:15] <Ussat> and they will share a FS, so when one dies, it releases the lock on the FS and the other picks it up
[20:15] <DammitJim> oh ok, so this is not like serverA and serverB are constantly synchronizing data between them?
[20:15] <Ussat> Well, you can have that, but its different
[20:15] <DammitJim> who hosts the FS?
[20:15] <DammitJim> 'cause then what happens if the FS server goes down?
[20:16] <DammitJim> btw, I know some of my thinking sometimes will never happen
[20:16] <Ussat> Generally the FS is hosted on both
[20:16] <Ussat> and shared
[20:16] <DammitJim> so, just yell at me if I'm thinking the wrong way
[20:17] <Odd_Bloke> What's driving the need for the sharing to happen at the filesystem level?
[20:17] <xrandr> DammitJim: make sure you rebalance the filesystem often
[20:17] <DammitJim> file processing and hosting
[20:17] <xrandr> the glusterfs
[20:17] <DammitJim> rebalance? oh gosh
[20:17] <Ussat> so there are a few ways....what WE do, is we have a HUGE isilon that is the FS, which is replicatedbetween datacenters
[20:17] <xrandr> DammitJim: it does it for you, there's a command you can use. gluster volume rebalance <VOL> start
[20:18] <xrandr> DammitJim: I am very fond of gluster :(
[20:18] <xrandr> :) *
[20:18] <Odd_Bloke> Your needs might be better met by using an object store for the files, where you have an API that you use to push and pull files.
[20:18] <DammitJim> :) or :( ?
[20:18] <Ussat> ^^^
[20:18] <xrandr> DammitJim:  :)
[20:18] <Odd_Bloke> Because then you just load-balance the service in the usual way you would load-balance an HTTP service.
[20:18] <Ussat> yup
[20:18] <DammitJim> xrandr, and you have gluster clients that mount those resources?
[20:18] <Ussat> we have VERY different needs
[20:18] <xrandr> DammitJim: yes.
[20:19] <DammitJim> Ussat, I appreciate you sharing what YOU do
[20:19] <Ussat> I work at a hospital where shit has to always be avaliable
[20:19] <xrandr> DammitJim: I use it for my new business. I now have 8.1 TB between 3 servers
[20:19] <Ussat> ours is a multi million dollar setup
[20:19] <DammitJim> multi milllion in infrastructure?
[20:19] <DammitJim> you sound like Orlando Health
[20:20] <DammitJim> xrandr, how much storage do you have on each server?
[20:20] <Ussat> No, not in Orlando. We are a major research hospital/University
[20:20] <DammitJim> btw, isn't it weird how many layers we have to take into account for "reliability?"
[20:20] <xrandr> DammitJim: If you're going to use gluster, you need to determine the setup you need. Do you want file replication (mirrored drives), or one huge drive?
[20:20] <DammitJim> oh yeah, US SAT
[20:20] <DammitJim> replication in my case
[20:20] <xrandr> DammitJim: I have two servers with 1.4TB each, and another server with a 6T drive dedicated to gluster
[20:21] <Ussat> ok, replication is pretty simple
[20:21] <DammitJim> so, glusterfs is pretty good? I can deal with the "slowness"
[20:21] <Ussat> it can be tuned
[20:21] <xrandr> DammitJim: there's ways to speed that up. Network compression, etc.
[20:21] <Ussat> yup
[20:22] <xrandr> DammitJim: also, depending on your needs, I would recommend using the ssl option with it. If your data is sensitive, let it be encrypted
[20:22] <Ussat> we also have to deal with encryption in flight and at rest
[20:23] <DammitJim> yup, I'll need to do encryption
[20:23] <xrandr> Ussat: doesn't the SSL option for the volume handle that? or is that just transmission between the servers?
[20:24] <Ussat> xrandr, it might, but we use special encryption accelerator cards
[20:24] <xrandr> DammitJim: I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you know all your server's specs, right?
[20:24] <DammitJim> xrandr, so, I should probably just test this in a lab, then
[20:24] <DammitJim> no, I can't say I know the server specs
[20:25] <xrandr> DammitJim: absolutely!
[20:25] <Ussat> xrandr, we are talking almost a petabyte of data :)
[20:25] <xrandr> Ussat: Which filesystem do you use at the server level? ext4 or xfs?
[20:25] <DammitJim> and the cluster only needs to be something like 1TB
[20:25] <DammitJim> and we'll probably only use about 1/3
[20:26] <xrandr> DammitJim: I didn't have a lab to test it on, so I just went live with it and worked it as I went
[20:26] <Ussat> The FS is on this:  https://www.ibm.com/us-en/marketplace/flash-storage-virtualization
[20:26] <DammitJim> but we know we are growing and that should be able to keep us working for about 2 years
[20:26] <Ussat> and its XFS
[20:26] <DammitJim> that looks pretty
[20:27] <DammitJim> that's nice that the 1st thing they say is "Save money"
[20:27] <Ussat> we have one in each data center, maxxed out
[20:27] <Ussat> its sales, of course they do :)
[20:27] <DammitJim> 'cause you are saving money, but it's more like buying insurance
[20:27] <xrandr> DammitJim: There's #gluster if ya need anything :)
[20:27] <DammitJim> thanks xrandr
[20:27] <xrandr> and if I'm aroumd I'd be happy to answer any questions
[20:27] <DammitJim> again, xrandr you have to install gluster clients on the other servers that want to mount the file system, right?
[20:27] <DammitJim> thanks
[20:28] <Ussat> glusterfs will do what you want, the Uni proper uses that
[20:28] <xrandr> DammitJim: no, you need to install gluster server on every server you want to add to the gluster volume
[20:28] <xrandr> sorry i misread that
[20:29] <xrandr> Gluster client on any machine that wants to mount the gluster volume.   Gluster server for any server that wants to contribute to the volume
[20:29] <DammitJim> yup, got it
[20:29] <DammitJim> do the gluster servers have to be the same for replication?
[20:29] <Ussat> same, meaning ?
[20:29] <DammitJim> how do you address the cluster? floating IP?
[20:29] <xrandr> You'll have one master server, and a bunch of slaves
[20:29] <DammitJim> same like... same storage, same RAM, same CPUs
[20:30] <xrandr> the one server is the initial volume
[20:30] <xrandr> then you add another to it from the first server, and so on
[20:30] <Ussat> DammitJim, well, they should of course
[20:30] <xrandr> DammitJim: They should, but it's not necessry
[20:30] <DammitJim> oh yeah 'cause xrandr is not doing replication (6TB + 1T + 1T)
[20:30] <xrandr> but you might hit some performance issues
[20:31] <xrandr> DammitJim: my biggest suggestion is to make sure they are all of the same network speed
[20:31] <xrandr> Don't have 100MB cards in some, and 1GB cards in others
[20:31] <DammitJim> so, like 1GB and stuff
[20:31] <xrandr> for some reason, gluster gets unhappy with that.
[20:31] <DammitJim> got it
[20:32] <xrandr> Or at least it did with me
[20:32] <xrandr> DammitJim: what version of Ubuntu server are you running?
[20:34] <xrandr> Ussat: how big is your Gluster volume?
[20:34]  * xrandr is curious
[20:35] <DammitJim> right now? please don't ask
[20:35] <DammitJim> I have a ton of 14.04
[20:35] <DammitJim> but I would probably set this up with 18.04
[20:37] <xrandr> Good choice.  Do a little research... the packages that are bundled with ubuntu-server for gluser are apparently EOL. There's repos out ther with the 4.X which are still in production phase and are supported
[20:37] <DammitJim> oh really?
[20:38] <DammitJim> man, one can't win, huh? everything is EOL these days but that's probably because we haven't been able to keep up with our processes
[20:38] <xrandr> DammitJim: yeah. I also have a bone to grind with the folks who wrote the gluster documentation.  When they stated it should be backwards compatible, they really needed to specify between which versions
[20:38] <xrandr> i had a 3.5 and a 3.12 i think
[20:39] <xrandr> They did not like each other
[20:39] <DammitJim> oh yeah, one would think that one can upgrade 1 node and then the other
[20:39] <DammitJim> I"m sure there are some limitations
[20:39] <xrandr> Oh there are. You can only have a gap of about 3 or 4 versions
[20:40] <xrandr> DammitJim: and you can upgrade one node then the other. Just make sure you keep up with it.
[20:40] <xrandr> so that the versions don't fall too far apart where you can't do that
[20:40] <DammitJim> I'm actually in a pickle with rabbitmq and erlang because I let it go too long
[20:41] <xrandr> DammitJim: you also need to figure out which communication protocol you want to use between the servers (bricks).   There's TCP, UDP, and RDMA.  I use TCP
[20:43] <xrandr> Really read through the gluster docs and figure out how you want to set things up
[20:44] <xrandr> some things are changeable, some things are not
[20:45] <DammitJim> do you have the servers directly connected or going through a switch?
[20:45] <xrandr> DammitJim: 2 are in the same datacenter, 1 is in another
[20:45] <xrandr> so 2 connected directly to each other via crossover cable, and another is on a 10GB connection
[20:45] <DammitJim> I think in my case actually, they are going to be in the same Cisco UCS
[20:46] <xrandr> UCS?
[20:47] <DammitJim> Cisco Unified computing
[20:47] <xrandr> Is that Cisco
[20:47] <DammitJim> si
[20:47] <xrandr> version of Amazons cloud computing?
[20:47] <DammitJim> no
[20:48] <xrandr> ( hit enter instead of '  )  lol
[20:48] <DammitJim> these are blade servers basically
[20:48] <jelly> UCS is cisco's "hyperconverged" hardware server platform
[20:48] <xrandr> jelly: hmm.  I just run the *nix side of things, but yes
[21:03] <Ussat> DammitJim, again, what we do is a pretty sizeable enterprise
[21:03] <DammitJim> cool
[21:04] <DammitJim> man, what a pain this erlang stuff is
[21:04] <Ussat> DammitJim, we have a little over a petabyte in storeage right now
[21:04] <Ussat> and we need to keep stuff ...forever almost it seems
[21:05] <DammitJim> forever is like a looong time
[21:05] <Ussat> yes
[21:05] <Ussat> medical records need to be kept a long time
[21:05] <DammitJim> hey guys, how do I perform an upgrade of erlang from version 20.1-1 to just 20.3-1 even though the candidate is 21.0-1
[21:06] <nacc_> DammitJim: is 20.3-1 available via `apt-cache policy` ?
[21:07] <DammitJim> yes
[21:07] <nacc_> and none of those numbers match ubuntu package versions
[21:07] <nacc_> DammitJim: pastebin it? but you can do `sudo apt-get install erlang=<version>`
[21:08] <DammitJim> that's it, nacc_ !!!t
[21:08] <DammitJim> thanks!@
[21:09] <DammitJim> oh gosh, I didn't realize there are a bunch of erlang packages like erlang-ic, erlang-gs that I don't want to automatically upgrade to 21, but want to keep it at 20.3
[21:11] <DammitJim> or how do I tell ubuntu that when I do an: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:11] <DammitJim> I don't want erlang packages to be upgraded to 21.0, but to 20.3
[21:12] <DammitJim> something opened the floodgates to recommend that candidate which in my case is not compatible with rabbitmq
[21:12] <DammitJim> ugh, gotta run
[21:12] <DammitJim> see you guys
[21:12] <nacc_> !pinning | DammitJim
[21:24] <Epx998> 18.10 beta is out right?
[21:26] <powersj> Epx998, beta is not out for Cosmic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseSchedule
[21:29] <Epx998> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ isnt a beta?
[21:33] <tomreyn> as the url indicates, it's a daily build
[21:34] <tomreyn> i.e. potentially broken, unstable, pre-release
[21:35] <tomreyn> (the download web page also says "daily build")
[21:37] <genii> Beta freeze isn't until Sept 27th anyhow for 18.10
[21:38] <genii> ( according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseSchedule )
[21:59] <Epx998> yeah thats ok, some dev want to test some gpu stuff on it
[21:59] <Epx998> thanks for the info


[07:52] <alkisg> Good morning
[15:06] <highvoltage> good morning
[17:22] <mhall119> morning
[17:22] <mhall119> well, afternoon now
[19:50] <highvoltage> mhall119: good afternoon :)
[19:50] <highvoltage> mhall119: you're going to uds, right?
[19:53] <mhall119> yup
[19:55] <mhall119> come hell or high water
[19:55] <highvoltage> great :)
[19:55] <mhall119> being Florida, both are entirely possible
[19:55] <highvoltage> we could spend some time on desktop-sessions there then
[19:55] <highvoltage> heh, and tornados!
[19:55] <mhall119> yeah
[19:55] <mhall119> tornados aren't that much of a problem, especially in Orlando
[19:56] <mhall119> I plan to make as many of the edu sessions as I can
[19:56] <mhall119> I've also got some django sessions to attend
[19:57] <mhall119> since I didn't do anything on Qimo for 10.10. I plan on releasing a new version based on 11.04
[22:34] <highvoltage> join #ubuntu-meeting
[22:34] <highvoltage> (oops)


[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178179 in openoffice.org (main) "[hardy] OpenOffice.org crashes in some menus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178179
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178183 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.1 Crashed during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178183
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178184 in ubuntu "User Switcher temporarily stalls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178184
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178187 in openafs (universe) "Please sync openafs 1.4.6 from debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178187
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178188 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash create pdf doesn't accept landscape setting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178188
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178189 in amarok (main) "amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV trying to play a WMA file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178189
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178190 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "attempting to download "limewire" linux. get error and instructed to shut down update manager (apt-getor, aptitude .   ????)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178190
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178191 in wine (universe) "SSL support not compiled in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178191
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178192 in ubuntu "Mouse cannot be set to left-handed in kubuntu hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178192
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178194 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] wxDownload Fast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178194
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178195 in ntop (universe) "ntop uninstall doesn't remove ntop from the log rotation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178195
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178198 in ubuntu "HP photosmart 1215 Utilizes only 1/4 of the page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178198
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178199 in ubuntu "Hardy Alpha 2 Scroll Wheel problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178199
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178185 in ekiga (main) "How do you resolve the, "security check failed" message at the bottom of the Ekiga display phone if you have completely registered? (dup-of: 120251)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178185
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178200 in dolphin (main) "title bar says "D3lphin" (Hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178200
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178201 in ubuntu "No Sound-Confused...." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178201
[03:53]  * persia very much appreciates the "Convert to Question" function
[03:56] <DarkMageZ> is there a convert to bug to match
[03:59] <persia> DarkMageZ: There's a function to link questions to bugs.  I presume the idea is that people filing questions may not be the right people to describe a bug, so a question may generate a bug, but the descriptions and discussion would be different.
[04:02] <DarkMageZ> that makes sense.
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178202 in inspircd "Please import inspircd from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178202
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178203 in pinentry (main) "Please merge pinentry (0.7.4-2) from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178203
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178204 in ubuntu "Please import upse (0.4.0-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178204
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178205 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] TimeVault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178205
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178207 in iptables (main) "[7.10] ip6tables unable to find libip6t_ipv6header.so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178207
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178208 in clamav (universe) "Please sync clamav 0.91.2-4  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178208
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178209 in totem (main) "Hardy totem should depend on python-gdata" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178209
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178210 in linux-source-2.6.22 "prio qdisc is non-functional" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178210
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178211 in gopchop (universe) "Crashes at the end of reading the mpeg file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178211
[07:24] <ubotu> New bug: #178212 in pyspf (universe) "Please sync pyspf 2.0.4-2 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178212
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178213 in sound-juicer (main) "When playing CDs, hitting "play" always starts at track one" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178213
[08:32] <ubotu> New bug: #178214 in linux (main) "New version: 2.6.24-rc6 Kernel Released" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178214
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178216 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screensaver applet crash and I must login " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178216
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178218 in gnome-cups-manager (universe) "gnome-cups-manager crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178218
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178219 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashed with InstallStepError in configure_locales() (dup-of: 175920)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178219
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178223 in graphviz (main) "URL or href for node not in generated PDF" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178223
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178225 in gnucash (universe) "can't make a new keyboard shortcut on gnucash menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178225
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178227 in ubuntu "[hardy]panel is invisible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178227
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178228 in zangband (multiverse) "zangband fails to start due to RNG 64-bit bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178228
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178230 in ubuntu "Proposal for a new package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178230
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178231 in kopete (main) "Kopete no longer lets you change webcam port" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178231
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178234 in ubuntu "GTK themes doesn't work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178234
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #178233 in kdebase (main) "Kdebase 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu7 FTBS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178233
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178236 in keyjnotegui (universe) "keyjotegui doesnt work from repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178236
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178237 in ubuntu "sun java6 doesnt work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178237
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178238 in picalib (universe) "FTBFS: picalib 0.1.5 on hardy-i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178238
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178239 in ubuntu "Java doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178239
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178240 in rhythmbox (main) "since gutsy gibbon, rhythmbox crashes everytime" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178240
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178242 in kdebase (main) "KDM doesn't work in XDMCP mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178242
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178241 in jvim (universe) "FTBFS: jvim 3.0-2.1b-2 on hardy-i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178241
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178244 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanger doesn't show wired devices" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178244
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178247 in nfs-utils "NFS mounts doesn't work well" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178247
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178248 in netsed (universe) "FTBFS: netsed 0.01c-2 on hardy-i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178248
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178250 in ubuntu "Linuxdcpp package need update in 8.04 Hardy Heron" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178250
[13:23] <ubotu> New bug: #178251 in libaspectr (universe) "libaspectr 0.3.5-3 FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178251
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178252 in apt (main) "APT cron.daily report generates an error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178252
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178249 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in rb_metadata_get_missing_plugins()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178249
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178253 in epiphany-browser (main) "flashplugin-nonfree not working with epiphany" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178253
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178255 in nvidia-settings (restricted) "NVCtrl.h and NVCtrlLib.h should be installed in /usr/include/NVCtrl not /usr/include" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178255
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178256 in psi (universe) "psi sound doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178256
[14:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178257 in gimp (main) "Preference for disabling undo to save memory when editing very large images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178257
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178258 in linux (main) "live cd hardy alpha2 crashes during  instal procedurel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178258
[14:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178261 in ubuntu "Screen resolution can not be changed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178261
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178263 in kde-hal-device-manager (universe) "Strings cannot be copied" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178263
[14:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178264 in mingw32 (universe) "mingw32 4.2.1.dfsg-1 FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178264
[15:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178265 in mit-scheme-doc (universe) "mit-scheme-doc 7.7.90+20070820-1 FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178265
[15:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178266 in ubuntu "gnome builds broken by libpthread-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178266
[15:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178267 in hardinfo (universe) "Hardinfo crashes during processing the Benchmarks." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178267
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #178270 in busybox (main) "Remote Syslog Capability in Udeb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178270
[15:44] <RainCT> is bug 172444 really a bug or is it a "feature" from the fast user switching stuff?
[15:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172444 in gdm "[Gutsy] Logout a session causes X-Window changes from VT7 to VT9" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172444
[15:48] <persia> RainCT: Could well be due to VTAllocation=true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, but I'm not sure that it is intentional.
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178271 in tracker (main) "Tracker doesn't not return results for tags of <3 character length." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178271
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178272 in devscripts (main) "debchange: `debchange --increment' always appends 'ubuntu1' to	revision number" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178272
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178274 in ubuntu "[hardy] firefox breaks on some pages with an X error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178274
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178275 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] X broken: can't retrieve EDID data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178275
[16:27] <ubotu> New bug: #178276 in ubuntu "user applet not present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178276
[16:27] <ubotu> New bug: #178277 in nip2 (universe) "Provide functionality for auto crop or trim" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178277
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178281 in ubuntu "backlight goes off when unplugging power supply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178281
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178282 in ubuntu "xrandr set any parameter failed with x error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178282
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178284 in xfwm4 (main) "xfwm4 picks bad initial window-sizes for multiple screens" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178284
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178285 in python-gdata (universe) "Include python-gdata in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178285
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178286 in linux (main) "Suspend not working on Sony Vaio SZ650N" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178286
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178287 in xfwm4 (main) "xubuntu gnome interop takes down desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178287
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178292 in wine (universe) "Wine logs out of Gnome in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178292
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178288 in ekiga (main) "ekiga lacks support for bluetooth audio (bluez)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178288
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178289 in ubuntu "Absolutely no keyboard input on fresh hardy alpha 2 installation." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178289
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178290 in opera (partner) "opera hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178290
[17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178293 in latex-cjk-japanese-wadalab (universe) "FTBFS: latex-cjk-japanese-wadalab 0.20050817-13 on hardy-i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178293
[17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178294 in ubuntu "[gutsy] System crash exiting screensaver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178294
[17:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178295 in elementtree (universe) "python-elementtree should be included in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178295
[18:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178298 in linux (main) "kernel 2.6.24-2-generic can't install Virtualbox or vmware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178298
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178299 in ubiquity (main) "Can't create new partitions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178299
[18:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178302 in wine (universe) "system32 no more accessible in wine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178302
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178303 in f-spot (main) "f-spot 2 picasaweb failed to upload" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178303
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178305 in gnome-panel (main) "graphical time-zone doesn't progress to next screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178305
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #178306 in ubuntu "Java based applications no longer run (dup-of: 86103)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178306
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178308 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (main) "[Hardy 8.04 alpha-2] No system sounds but Totem plays sound." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178308
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178309 in epiphany-browser (main) "Missed dependency for epiphany-browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178309
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178313 in yelp (main) "antspotlight screensaver hangs computer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178313
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178314 in libmikmod (main) "libmikmod2 fails to generate a dbgsym package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178314
[19:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178316 in debian-installer (main) "ubuntu studio 2.6-22-14-rt wont boot on toshiba A75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178316
[19:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178318 in bb (universe) "bb runs abysmally on my machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178318
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178319 in gnome-panel (main) "Cannot Logout after Login Window Settings Adjusted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178319
[19:41] <ubotu> New bug: #178320 in xfce4-clipman-plugin (main) "Global hotkey to bring up list to avoid using the mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178320
[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178321 in evolution-rss (universe) "Please sponsor evolution-rss 0.0.7-0ubuntu2 (universe) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178321
[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178323 in ubuntu "Gutsy installation crashes disk after installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178323
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178324 in ubuntu "Login screen appears twice in Xubuntu Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178324
[19:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178326 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gnome_settings_daemon_new()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178326
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178327 in ubuntu "Window manager "unknown"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178327
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178328 in kdebase (main) "kdeprint spoils cupsd.conf and disconnect local printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178328
[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178329 in gcc-defaults (main) "Ubuntu 7.10: build-essentials is not installed with a compiler." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178329
[20:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178331 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "7.10 Installer hangs on Compag nx9105" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178331
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178315 in conduit (universe) "conduit crashed with TypeError in get_height()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178315
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178337 in elisa (universe) "Plugins aren't being loaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178337
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178339 in alsa-utils (main) "Dell D400 with Kubuntu 7.10: no sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178339
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178338 in firefox (main) "Edgy Eft Firefox crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178338
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178341 in compiz (main) "Various problems with Compiz on multi-head setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178341
[20:52] <cosmodad> hi all, hope this is the right place to ask the following question: I'm interested in the resolution of a bug of a particular package. Bug has been reported in 10/07, but there's still no-one assigned to it.
[20:52] <cosmodad> My question is: When do get bugs assigned to people?
[20:53] <pochu> cosmodad: when people have time to look to them
[20:53] <pochu> cosmodad: which bug?
[20:53] <cosmodad> pochu: #148942
[20:55] <pochu> bug 148942
[20:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148942 in thunderbird "thunderbird 2.0 not compiled with UNIX (movemail) acccount option." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148942
[21:00] <pochu> cosmodad: I'd say ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam. You might be lucky there.
[21:00] <cosmodad> pochu: didn't know that one. Thanks
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178343 in linux (main) "please enable jffs2 lzo support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178343
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178344 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-base unresolvable dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178344
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #128698 in inkscape (main) "inkscape crashed when trying to use effect pattern along path twice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128698
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178346 in kubuntu-grub-splashimages (universe) "no boot splash while booting Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178346
[21:57] <ubotu> New bug: #178349 in cryptsetup (main) "Kubuntu does not mount cryptsetup LUKS encrypted hard drives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178349
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178351 in kdebase (main) "failed to mount ntfs user disk with kiomedia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178351
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #178356 in kipi-plugins (main) "[hardy] batch resize generates "error"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178356
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178357 in audacity (universe) "[Sync Request] Please sync audacity from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178357
[22:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178359 in rhythmbox (main) "hal-info and rhythmbox conflict on audio_folders for PSP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178359
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178360 in gwenview (main) "[hardy] crash when choosing upload to picasa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178360
[23:12] <ubotu> New bug: #178363 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with IOError in write()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178363
[23:24] <ubotu> New bug: #178364 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] SciDAVis" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178364
[23:24] <ubotu> New bug: #178365 in metapixel (universe) "Print more informative warnings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178365
[23:24] <ubotu> New bug: #178366 in linux (main) "pcmcia does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178366
[23:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178367 in easycrypt (universe) "NTFS support when creating volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178367
[23:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178368 in easycrypt (universe) "Whole disk encrypting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178368
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178369 in drapes (universe) "fade effect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178369
[23:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178335 in conduit (universe) "conduit crashed with TypeError in get_width()" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178335
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178370 in ubuntu "[hardy] ubuntu-minimal depends on ntpdate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178370


[13:58] <mhall119> gaughen: marcoceppi: jose: who's going to give the devops track summary later today?
[14:03] <arosales> Big Data starting in a few minutes, just getting started
[14:28] <lazyPower> QUESTION: you mentioned elastic search being bundled with hadoop - what does that give me as a data scientist? Isn't elastic search a full text search engine implementation?
[14:29] <gaughen> mhall119, let me check my calendar and make sure I can do it
[14:31] <arosales> lazyPower: did that answer your question?
[14:31] <lazyPower> Brilliant. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
[14:31] <gaughen> mhall119, I can do it as long as marcoceppi, jose, jcastro et all provide input for their sessions
[14:31] <arosales> lazyPower: great thanks
[14:32] <lazyPower> Big Data noob over here - but i'm super interested in the tech and how approchable it is with our juju charms.
[14:34] <urulama> QUESTION: will this work in all juju environments? From LXC to EC@?
[14:34] <arosales> lazyPower: good comment
[14:34] <arosales> urulama: I'll queue up your question.
[14:34] <urulama> np :D
[14:34] <arosales> urulama: thanks for the question :-)
[14:35] <urulama> QUESTION: another one -> is this "competing" with Mirantis' Hadoop on OpenStack?
[14:38] <urulama> that's awesome!
[14:39] <lazyPower> urulama: thats kinda our claim to fame. No matter where you're cloud is, we're going to be there to let you orchestrate it.
[14:40] <urulama> you answered as it already
[14:40] <urulama> it's broader
[14:40] <urulama> thanks
[14:40] <lazyPower> urulama: Mirantis is another deliery mechanism and its possible for juju to drive a mirantis based deployment
[14:41] <lazyPower> if this is something you'd be interested in, its a great topic to take to the list (i may be misinterpreting mirantis's intent - i googled it and read the homepage overview) -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:41] <urulama> I must say this is a big deal (to be able to use anything from MaaS to HP cloud) and looks great guys, looking forward to it :D
[14:41] <urulama> lazyPower: tnx
[14:48] <arosales> urulama: lazyPower: thanks for participating and the questions
[14:53] <JCDuran> Hello guys!
[14:56] <JCDuran> Good
[15:03] <marcoceppi> we'll be starting in a few mins!
[15:09] <marcoceppi> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-policy.html
[15:21] <arosales> Please post here if you have any questions about Juju Charm Policy or Audit
[15:22] <mbruzek> The Amulet documentation https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/tools-amulet.html
[15:22] <arosales> thanks mbruzek
[15:41] <jdstrand> not charms specific, but http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Documentation
[15:41] <jdstrand> of particular interest for getting into profiling with apparmor is: http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Profiling_by_hand
[15:42] <jdstrand> (and also 'man apparmor.d', that has all the new policy)
[15:43] <arosales> jdstrand: thank you sir, perhaps we can also sync up with you and/or the security team on charm school for AppArmour
[15:43] <jdstrand> also note, sarnold is likely the best point of contact for juju and using apparmor in it. he is on the security team and looked at juju quite a bit and likely has thoughts on how they can work together
[15:43]  * arosales will also mention this in the hangout here in a bit . .  .
[15:43] <arosales> jdstrand: ack on sarnold, thanks for the info :-)
[15:44] <jdstrand> np
[15:46] <mbruzek> thanks jdstrand
[15:59] <jamespage> hey folks - starting in 2 minutes - New features in Ceph firefly
[15:59] <jamespage> I'll keep an eye out for questions.
[16:01] <jamespage> ok should start soon
[16:36] <cking> thanks for the ceph info
[16:43] <jamespage> thanks folks!
[18:01] <lazyPower> Greetings, we're setting up the feed will be live shortly
[18:02] <mbruzek> For those who want follow along at home here are the Vagrant docs: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-vagrant.html
[18:05] <mbruzek> https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle
[18:05] <marcoceppi> any questions, please feel free to prefix with QUESTION, here in chat
[18:31] <lazyPower> Are there any questions? We're pretty close to wrapped int erms of content that i had