[00:10] <Prognatus> Hello,  I have a question, which I have tried to find the answer for, and would be happy if someone knew the answer to or could guide me to where it's written:
[00:10] <Prognatus> Is the Happauge Win-TV-HVR-4000 supported by MythBuntu?
[00:12] <Prognatus> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_hvr4000.html
[00:14] <Prognatus> ...or MythTV?
[00:23] <benlake>  I just upgraded to 8.04 from 7.10 and mythtvbackend fails to start with a symbol lookup error
[00:23] <benlake> I'm fully upgraded, not sure where to start troubleshooting (besides the tidbits google has fed me)
[00:27] <superm1> benlake, look for any packages you manually installed (the local section in synaptic)
[00:27] <superm1> and also any stray make install stuff
[00:27] <superm1> or stuff in /usr/local
[00:28] <benlake> nuvexport is the only thing
[00:29] <superm1> well you can try to ldd mythbackend
[00:29] <superm1> to see where its linking to
[00:31] <benlake> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.21.so.0:
[00:31] <benlake> is what I get
[00:31] <benlake> when it fails to start
[00:32] <benlake> hmm when I ldd it it doesn't lis that lib
[00:35] <TazgodX> hmm, 8.04 is released
[00:36] <TazgodX> guess ill update
[00:36] <benlake> when you say the local section in Synaptic, are you speaking of everything in Local/free|main|restricted|multiverse ?
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> TazgodX, not only is it released
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> but you can digg it  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_04_now_available
[00:38] <TazgodX> lol
[00:38] <TazgodX> you alwyas make a digg
[00:38] <TazgodX> it won't surpase teh ubuntu digg release LOL
[00:39] <laga> still, digg it :)
[00:39] <TazgodX> already did
[00:39] <laga> good
[00:41] <benlake> superm1: my only thought is that there is something dangling around from the ppa.launchpad source, synaptic says I have nothing from that source.
[00:41] <benlake> when I upgraded the upgrade manager disabled the ppa.launchpad source ad apparently pulled all the myth stuff from the normal mirrors
[00:43] <TelnetManta> any NA DVBS users in here tonight? Need a comparison question....
[00:51] <benlake> what exactly does it mean when dpkg --get-selection says something is "deinstall"?
[01:01] <destructar> hi all... i just upgraded to 8.04. everything seems to be fine thus far, except that I can't play music with mythmusic
[01:01] <destructar> i get the error "mixer unable to find control master 1"
[01:01] <destructar> (that's the command line error)
[01:02] <destructar> in the gui i get "aacDeoder: failed to open input"
[01:02] <destructar> any help would be awesome
[01:03] <destructar> it should be noted that i can hear audio while watching recordings. I am also unable to play music with rythmbox
[01:04] <destructar> so that error was for an m4a file i think... just tried mp3 and got "DecoderMAD: failed to open input"
[01:05] <dflake_> Is anyone else having problems installing 8.04?
[01:06] <destructar> are you trying to install via cd?
[01:06] <dflake_> yeah
[01:06] <dflake_> it gets to about 80% then crashes
[01:06] <destructar> i wasn't able to ... kept getting "may not be debian" or something like that
[01:06] <destructar> i had to do it via internet which took forever to download for whatever reason
[01:06] <dflake_> how did you get it installed?
[01:06] <laga> bug reports bug reports bug reports!
[01:07] <laga> if you encounter a problem, file a bug report and we'll get to it :)
[01:07] <destructar> install went smooth. I'm just having issues with mythmusic now
[01:07] <destructar> dflake_: i just followed the instructions and everything worked for the internet install
[01:07] <dflake_> instructions from the website? pdf file?
[01:08] <destructar> from ubuntu
[01:08] <destructar> one sec
[01:08] <destructar> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:29] <dflake_> top
[01:47] <a1fa> damn :P
[01:48] <a1fa> archive.ubuntu.org is soooooo slow
[01:48] <a1fa> archive.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <a1fa> i mean
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone have experience getting an ati igp 320 to do video out?
[02:00] <benlake> s a reinstall of mythbackend going to drop and rebuild the mythconverge db and wipe all config files?
[02:00] <benlake> cause I'm at a loss with this symbol lookup error on mythbackend startup
[02:30] <Krusher00> this is probably a noob mistake, but when I try to play an avi file in my new mythbuntu setup, it comes up with "loading.." and I can hear the sound of the file playing but no picture. Any ideas?
[02:36] <_CT_> I've got a Mythbuntu 7.10 install with the Gnome Desktop installed.  Can I use the Mythbuntu Alternate 8.04 CD to upgrade the install?
[02:39] <_CT_> I've got a Mythbuntu 7.10 install with the Gnome Desktop installed.  Can I use the Mythbuntu Alternate 8.04 CD to upgrade the install?
[02:40] <_CT_> If I've got the Gnome Desktop installed on my Mythbuntu 7.10 do I have the normal Ubuntu Alt install CD?
[02:57] <a1fa> why dont you upgrade through console?
[02:57] <a1fa> or update manager?
[02:57] <a1fa> and stop repeating yourself every 5minutes
[02:59] <Krusher00> ^2nded
[03:00] <Krusher00> !seen laga
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen laga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Krusher00> oh, he's already here haha
[03:15] <tgm4883_laptop> can anyone help me get an external monitor working with the open source radeon driver?
[03:33] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: nope :P
[03:33] <rhpot1991> also are you being serious?
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, yes
[03:49] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: dunno how much help it is, but back in the day I always did xinerama with my ati card (non open source drivers)
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, unfortunatly my card isn't supported in the fglrx driver :(
[03:50] <rhpot1991> xinerama used to work with the open source driver as well, but I think its depracated now and there are other ways of doing multiple monitors
[03:51] <tgm4883_laptop> well i really don't want to do multiple monitors, I want to turn this old laptop into a frontend
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I was finally able to get the opensource radeon wiki page to open
[03:54] <tgm4883_laptop> hopefully it will shed some light on this
[04:04] <mxpower> anyone got a tip on why my vnc session keeps refusing connections?
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> mxpower, sec
[04:06] <mxpower> heya tgm :)
[04:06] <tgm4883_laptop> mxpower, http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.04/upgrade_notes
[04:09] <mxpower> ok, how do i access the mythbuntu control center? I went through the screen config menu, but nothing about vnc is there
[04:09] <mxpower> nm got it
[04:09] <mxpower> :)
[04:11] <mxpower> man, update servers are brutally slow tonight :(
[04:11] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[04:15] <pdragon> someone show'd be a trick to get a better one. Go to the Repositories section of Synaptic
[04:15] <pdragon> under the Ubuntu Software tab, in the Download From dropdown choose Other...
[04:16] <pdragon> a box pops up. Hit the Select Best Server button
[04:16] <pdragon> it'll go through and ping all the servers and you can pick the best one :)
[04:17] <pdragon> gave him some mirror in Canada and he was downloading at full speed
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> bollocks!
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> there are no better mirrors than archive.org
[04:17] <pdragon> haha
[04:19] <tgm4883_laptop> pdragon, actually this website has a search feature that allows you to find the mirror with the greatest connection speed, not just by ping time http://www.interenetisseriousbusiness.com
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> pdragon, still there?
[04:29] <pdragon> yeah
[04:29] <pdragon> cool
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry about the link
[04:29] <pdragon> someone just told me about the synaptic tool earlier tonight
[04:29] <pdragon> said it worked great for him
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> yea it does
[04:29] <Krusher00> tgm4883_laptop, why not download the one from www.epicwinrar.com ?
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> no epicwinrar
[04:32]  * tgm4883_laptop stabs Krusher00
[04:32] <Krusher00> :-)
[05:49] <mr_legan> I thought there were some gui buttons on the bottom of the configuration screens, they seem to be scaled off the screen
[06:21] <emja> Can anyone point me to info about how to get the mythbuntu video manager to work behind a http proxy?
[06:35] <benlake> is there a package name for the control centre?
[06:37] <benlake> got it: mythbuntu-control-centre
[07:27] <emja> hmm... /etc/profile worked, but /etc/profile.d didn't
[07:32] <hugolp> hi, I cant find the configuration file for the backend
[07:32] <hugolp> can someone tell me where it is?
[07:37] <emja> dang. forgot 'export blah'
[07:39] <emja> hugolp: probably in /usr/share/mythtv/
[07:40] <hugolp> emja:  it was a file where I had to put -no-upnp for the mythbackend
[07:40] <hugolp> I have allredy checked that folder
[07:40] <emja> hugolp: so you're looking for how myth is started?
[07:41] <hugolp> emja:  yes
[07:41] <hugolp> mythbackend freezes the server if I dont use that option
[07:41] <emja> depends on your distro, wm, etc
[07:42] <hugolp> ubuntu hardy
[07:42] <emja> which wm?
[07:42] <hugolp> what wm?
[07:42] <hugolp> whats wm?
[07:43] <emja> window manager. KDE, Gnome, fvwm, IceWM, etc
[07:45] <hugolp> gnome, but once I have the server configured I boot it without graphic mode
[07:46] <emja> hang on. you're talking about mythBACKend, right? then you'll want /etc/initd./mythbackend
[07:46] <emja> err... /etc/init.d/mythbackend
[07:46] <emja> sorry. wrong again. /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend   :-}
[07:48] <hugolp> yes, but thats the executable file to restart/stop/etc the backend
[07:48] <hugolp> I am looking for the configuration file of the backend
[07:49] <hugolp> someone here pointed me to it when I upgraded to .21 in gutsy
[07:51] <hugolp> but I cant find it now
[07:55] <hugolp> brb
[08:00] <hugolp> back
[08:55] <skull-DT> hello
[09:54] <S|eepy> Morning al!
[09:55] <S|eepy> looking to switch over to mythbuntu but cant seem to find out if it supports my FloppyDTV DVB-S2 card?
[09:56] <S|eepy> Anyone any idea if it will work?
[09:57] <laga> S|eepy: have you checked the linuxtv wiki?
[09:59] <S|eepy> Yeah says unsupported - just hoped maybe it was outdated
[09:59] <S|eepy> Or someone had managed to get it working
[10:00] <S|eepy> Guess im stuck with WIndows :(
[10:02] <S|eepy> in windows it uses BDA drivers (generic i think?) so can mythbuntu not do the same?
[10:02] <laga> S|eepy: make sure to ask the manufacturer why they don't support linux
[10:02] <laga> S|eepy: linux is a completely different OS with a different architecture, driver API etc
[10:02] <laga> that won't work
[10:02] <S|eepy> i can see some old threads on forum and they released driver code as open source
[10:03] <S|eepy> but seems nobody took it up and developed any :(
[10:03] <laga> i find that hard to believe
[10:03] <laga> do you have an URL?
[10:03] <S|eepy> www.digital-everywhere.com is the m/d
[10:03] <S|eepy> let me find url for open source driver code
[10:06] <S|eepy> umm cant find it - will keep looking
[10:09] <S|eepy> ahh this maybe it!
[10:09] <S|eepy> http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-February/120746.html
[10:16] <laga> i'm amazed nobody has posted a follow-up
[10:18] <laga> ah, i've found the thread on the linuxTV ml
[10:18] <laga> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.dvb/23472/focus=23478
[10:18] <laga> doesn't look too promising
[10:20] <laga> there are several other postings wrt updating the driver, but nobody seemed to be interested
[10:56] <emja> what tool does myth use to download the movie poster (in video manager)? my system won't download the poster, but it happily retrieves all the metadata, including the postername.
[11:17] <laga> emja: imd.pl
[11:17] <laga>  /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl AFAIK
[11:17] <emja> laga: thx, but that seems to only retrieve the poster name, not the poster itself
[11:23] <hugolp> can someone tell me where the back end configuration file is?
[11:23] <hugolp> I need to add a boot option for the back-end and I dont remember where the file is
[11:24] <emja> hugolp: look at the ARGS variable in /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend
[11:25] <laga> there's an EXTRA_ARGS varialble, that's better
[11:25] <hugolp> emja:  ok, has this changed? in gutsy 0.21 was different
[11:26] <laga> and it's in /etc/default/mythtv-backend
[11:26] <hugolp> thats the one
[11:26] <hugolp> thanks
[11:26] <emja> ok, so I just learnt something new. ;-)
[11:27]  * emja goes back to his imdb poster download problem
[11:30] <hugolp> laga: where can I found docs about the arguments?
[11:30] <laga> hugolp: mythbackend --help
[11:35] <dbmister> is anyone having problems with the new mythbuntu hardy heron?
[11:36] <laga> !ask
[11:36] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:36] <dbmister> i currently cant scan for any dvb-t channels in mythtv setup, hardware is working ok as i can watch tv through mplayer
[11:37] <dbmister> it comes up as timeout error
[11:37] <dbmister> when scanning for channels
[11:37] <dbmister> ubotu: ok, sorry
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, sorry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <hugolp> dbmister:  dvb-t channel scan works here
[11:39] <hugolp> clean hardy install
[11:40] <laga> i assume mythbackend isn't running?
[11:40] <hugolp> brb
[11:51] <rockhound> good day ... anyone else have mythfrontend die after scalling images after doing a full upgrade from 07.10 to 8.04?
[11:53] <dbmister> hugolp: i have a hauppuage hvr-1110?
[11:53] <dbmister> laga: backend is running
[11:59] <laga> dbmister: stop it
[11:59] <laga> rockhound: check the logs in  /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[12:00] <rockhound> laga: will do once I have access to the system again ... ;-) thanks for the pointer
[12:10] <koudelka> hello, does mythbuntu use pulse audio?
[13:09] <fstxx> mythbuntu guided partiotion creates an ext3 partition - is taht good?
[13:09] <laga> depends. for your recordings store, i'd recommend xfs.
[13:10] <laga> we didn't get around to fixing this for this release, we'll try to add it in 8.10 :)
[13:11] <fstxx> laga: Yes, i will do that. Are there more things I should be aware of?
[13:12] <laga> no, i don't think so. if you've got the space to spare, you can make a 1-2GB partition for /var/lib/mysql/ to ensure it never gets full. of course, that's a bit overkill but it can be a good idea :)
[13:13] <fstxx> laga: if I want to have two filesystems, one root and one for recordings, music, and all other data, how large does the root need to be?
[13:13] <fstxx> laga: and where should the other parttition be mounted?
[13:15] <laga> good question. :)
[13:15] <laga> let's see if there is something in the manual
[13:17] <laga> no, there isn't.
[13:17] <laga> bad documentation monkeys.
[13:17] <fstxx> laga: I don't see anything at all about partioning in the manual.
[13:17] <laga> fstxx: 6-10GB should be enough for everything including /var/lib/mysql
[13:18] <laga> and the recordings directory should be mounted in.. let's see
[13:18] <laga>  /var/lib/mythtv/ is a good call, but i'm verifying the plugin directories now
[13:22] <laga> fstxx: yeah /var/lib/mythtv/ contains all the recordings
[13:22] <laga> and plugin data
[13:22] <fstxx> laga: thanks
[13:23] <laga> i'd say with 10GB for / and the rest for /var/lib/mythtv/ you're on the safe side
[13:23] <laga> it's often a good idea to have a separate /home
[13:23] <laga> so you don't lose that when you reinstall.
[13:23] <laga> although you don't store many data in /home in a typical mythtv install, mostly channel icons and maybe xmltv config files
[13:24] <fstxx> I did 16G /, 8 G swap, 16 G spare, rest for xfs
[13:24] <fstxx> laga: you say when, not if, :-)
[13:24] <laga> 8G swap? that's massive :)
[13:25] <laga> fstxx: oops. :)
[13:26] <fstxx> laga: well I still follow the old rule, twice the max ram than machine can handle
[13:28] <laga> fstxx: my ubuntu boxes usually run really well. then i try to do something very weird and end up reinstalling, which is why /home is separate here :)
[13:31] <fstxx> laga: it's not a bad idea.
[13:34] <fstxx> laga: is the mythbuntu default to run without swap sapce at all? Do you?
[13:34] <laga> no
[14:45] <MythbuntuGuest79> Some of you tried to change the mythbroser to firefox on Mythbynty 8.04?
[14:46] <MythbuntuGuest79> I could not make work
[14:51] <laga> people have been posting about it on the forunms
[14:51] <laga> maybe you want to subscribe to those threads
[14:58] <psicobra> hi all
[14:58] <psicobra> i have installed mythbuntu and it seems to be configured correctly for the most part
[14:59] <psicobra> it has picked up my tv card and scanned all the channels but when i try and view them the screen goes black then quits back to main menu does the same for dvd's
[14:59] <psicobra> any help
[15:02] <laga> psicobra: check /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log for hints
[15:05] <psicobra> laga, checking now u want me to pastebin it?
[15:06] <psicobra> encrypted dvd support unavalible
[15:08] <laga> psicobra: sure
[15:09] <psicobra> laga, http://pastebin.com/m397aa8cb
[15:09] <psicobra> thanks
[15:12] <psicobra> any joy laga
[15:13] <laga> psicobra: for tv, you need to fix your backend setup
[15:13] <laga> eg look around line 120
[15:13] <laga> the error messages there
[15:13] <laga> for a master backend, *both* entries for IP addresses in mythtv-setup need to have the same value
[15:14] <psicobra> sow how i change that
[15:15] <laga> you can change that by running mythtv-setup
[15:17] <psicobra> ok what should i change it to/
[15:18] <psicobra> my local i.p i.e <IP_ADDRESS>?
[15:18] <laga> yeah
[15:18] <laga> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:18] <laga> if you don't have other computers on your network using mythtv
[15:19] <psicobra> this is the only pc on my network with myth TV installed
[15:20] <psicobra> and the i.p address is already set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <psicobra> so whats next?
[15:24] <psicobra> laga, sorry to be a pain i am trying my best honest
[15:24] <laga> on that page
[15:24] <laga> there are two fields for ip addresses
[15:24] <laga> one for the address of that computer
[15:24] <psicobra> yes
[15:24] <laga> and one for the master backend
[15:25] <psicobra> yes
[15:25] <laga> both need to be set to the same value
[15:25] <psicobra> they are
[15:25] <psicobra> but ports are different
[15:25] <laga> don't change the ports from the default
[15:25] <psicobra> i haven't
[15:26] <laga> good
[15:26] <laga> then everything should work now, hopefully
[15:26] <psicobra> both are <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:26] <psicobra> they were already set that way
[15:27] <psicobra> no tried again any ways still not working
[15:27] <laga> did you restart the backend?
[15:27] <psicobra> i think it did it automatically
[15:28] <psicobra> how do i restart
[15:28] <laga> yes, it should restart the backend automagically
[15:29] <psicobra> ok then it's still not working
[15:29] <laga> still with the same error message?
[15:29] <psicobra> still doing the same thing
[15:29] <psicobra> click on tv goes black for a second and then quits to main menue
[15:30] <laga> new entries in the log file?
[15:32] <psicobra> 2008-04-26 15:26:39.686 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost
[15:33] <psicobra> http://pastebin.com/m37874821
[15:34] <laga> ah, a different error message.
[15:34] <laga> psicobra: /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log is now interesting
[15:35] <psicobra> yes i postedit in the pastebin
[15:35] <laga> superm1: that's not the backend log
[15:37] <psicobra> http://pastebin.com/m160aee3d
[15:39] <psicobra> that better
[15:42] <psicobra> /home/andy/livetv/', but this directory is not writeable
[15:42] <psicobra> would that be it laga
[15:48] <laga> yeah
[15:48] <laga> mythbackend run as the "mythtv" user
[15:48] <laga> so you need to set the permissions for that directory accordingly
[15:50] <psicobra> i just changed them manually and now i can watch tv perfectly
[15:50] <psicobra> but DVD still not working
[15:51] <laga> psicobra: your dvd is most likely "copy-protected". if your legislation doesn't prevent you from watching the dvds you've legally bought on your computer, you can install the dvdcss package in mythbuntu-control-centre
[15:51] <laga> but of course, many countries don't allow thaz
[15:51] <laga> that*
[15:58] <psicobra> i have already ticked the enable libdvdcss2 box still wont work
[15:59] <laga> that's odd then
[16:03] <psicobra> http://pastebin.com/m735e6e48
[16:03] <psicobra> try that
[16:04] <a1fa> all of a sudden i got no recording schedules :(
[16:05] <laga> psicobra: no clue. try a different dvd
[16:07] <a1fa> nvm
[16:07] <a1fa> all recordings are back :(
[16:07] <a1fa> i dont get it
[16:13] <a1fa> hm
[16:13] <a1fa> maybe mythfilldatabase is not running automatically
[16:13] <a1fa> how can i check?
[16:21] <hugolp> anyone has found a solution for the Nova-T-500 and Hardy?
[16:34] <psicobra> laga, thanks for all your help i sorted it
[16:34] <psicobra> please don't ask what the problem was with the DVd
[16:39] <laga> psicobra: okay.
[16:39] <laga> what was the problem? :)
[16:39] <psicobra> i didn't have a dvd disk in the drive
[16:39] <psicobra> :(
[16:39] <laga> yes, that'd explain it :)
[16:39] <psicobra> i did have 1 but then i swapped it to install my wifi drivers and forgot
[17:02] <hugolp> so I am guessing there is no solution for the Nova-T-500 in Hardy?
[17:25] <minimike> hello
[17:25] <minimike> i have an problem with a non working ati-remote 1
[17:26] <minimike> irw doesnt display any codes seems lirc does'nt work propperly
[18:58] <PlaneRacer> hi
[20:13] <mxpower> wierd question, I dont have a remote so i use a laptop to control my mythbuntu through vnc, is there a way to control the volume using keyboard commands?
[20:14] <olov> hello
[20:15] <mxpower> :)
[20:15] <mxpower> heya
[20:15] <olov> i recently upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now I get the following error trying to start mythfrontend: /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.21.so.0: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen     :(
[20:16] <mxpower> not many awake right now olov, and im a newby :(
[20:18] <olov> i see, it is evening here about 9pm...
[20:28] <laga> olov: that's a known issue, kind of.
[20:29] <laga> olov: although i'm not sure what's causing it
[20:31] <olov> laga: is there anything i can do, besides reinstalling?
[20:34] <laga> olov: try reinstalling libmyth-0.21-0 and mythtv-frontend, eg sudo aptitude reinstall <package>
[20:34] <laga> olov: i assume you were using the weekly builds repository before upgrading?
[20:44] <olov> laga: E: I wasn't able to locate file for the libmyth-0.21-0 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package
[20:45] <laga> olov: what does apt-cache policy libmyth-0.21-0 say?
[20:48] <olov> libmyth-0.21-0:
[20:48] <olov>   Installed: 0.21.0+fixes17120-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2
[20:48] <olov>   Candidate: 0.21.0+fixes17120-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2
[20:48] <olov>   Version table:
[20:48] <olov>  *** 0.21.0+fixes17120-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2 0
[20:48] <olov>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:48] <olov>      0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3 0
[20:48] <olov>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages
[20:49] <laga> hum
[20:49] <laga> i'll have to try to verify that in a VM
[20:50] <laga> olov: you can folow this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765725
[20:50] <laga> olov: in the mean time
[20:50] <laga> olov: can you try downgrading mythtv?
[20:51] <laga> olov: sudo aptitude install mythtv-common=0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3 mythtv-frontend=0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3 libmyth-0.21-0=0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3
[20:51] <laga> etc
[20:51] <laga> that ought to work
[20:51] <olov> ok, i will try...
[20:56] <Prognatus> Anybody know if the TV chip on Happauge Win-TV-PVR-4000 is the same as on Win-TV-PVR-350?
[20:57] <olov> laga: downgrading helped... a lot... :) i can now start mythtv, both front and backend...
[20:57] <laga> olov: great
[20:58] <olov> laga: thank you !!!
[20:59] <laga> olov: if you're registered in the forums, maybe you can post your workaround
[21:00] <laga> olov: but you were using the weekly builds, correct?
[21:01] <olov> laga: not sure, can I check?
[21:01] <laga> olov: try looking in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:02] <olov> laga: what in the list am I looking for? keywords?
[21:03] <laga> olov: maybe you can just pastebin the whole thing, there are some mirrors for it
[21:05] <olov> I seem to have: hardy main, hardy-updates, hardy-security, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed (and src for all of them) all from se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:05] <Prognatus> Is anyone here using Happauge 1300?  It's listed on this page, but I wonder if there are any problems with it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Gutsy/Tuners
[21:05] <laga> olov: nothing else?
[21:06] <laga> olov: maybe something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[21:06] <olov> laga: nothing more in /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll take a look in the next one..
[21:09] <LeeSharp> Anyone got a minute to help a Myth newbie?
[21:09] <olov> laga: in medibuntu.list.save: deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free    and in medibuntu.list.distUpgrade: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free   thats it...
[21:10] <olov> laga: what would weekly builds look like?
[21:10] <abarbaccia-lapto> LeeSharp: what are you trying to do
[21:10] <abarbaccia-lapto> LeeSharp: just ask the quesiton
[21:11] <laga> olov: mine looks like "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu hardy main
[21:11] <laga> "
[21:11] <laga> olov: but you must have been using the weekly builds for gutsy, then you upgraded and that caused the problem i think..
[21:12] <olov> laga: am I likely to run into this problem again?
[21:13] <laga> olov: i don't think so. does it ask you to upgrade mythtv now if you run whatever you usually to update your system?
[21:14] <olov> laga: no
[21:14] <laga> olov: do you have any other files which look like a sources.list in /etc/apt/? maybe with a "old" suffix or something.
[21:14] <laga> olov: okay, then you should be fine
[21:15] <LeeSharp> I just installed a new front/back from the real hardy live cd.  I had to manually specify my monitor and now when I go to the desktop, my font is too small. (Like 2)  Anyone seen this?  I am a Gnome users, and don't know xfe well.
[21:20] <olov> laga: i do have this line in sources.list.distUpgrade:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse  and I have the same but marked out ( # ) in sources.list etc..
[21:21] <laga> olov: that'd explain a few things. how annoying.. :/
[21:22] <olov> laga: I think I might have turned something on to get a mythtv upgrade a few months back, possibly this? thanx again for helping me solve my mess :)
[21:23] <laga> olov: yeah.
[21:23] <laga> olov: it's not exactly your fault, it's just an annoying upgrade probkem
[21:24] <LeeSharp> Any hint on my small font problem, or should it try an reinstall?
[21:27] <laga> LeeSharp: what's the DPI of your monitor? check with 'xdpyinfo' in a terminal
[21:29] <LeeSharp> It is an old 24 inch dell.  I set it as 1024x768 as the max res, and the user is at 1024x768.
[21:33] <laga> LeeSharp: yes, but what's the DPI setting?
[22:48] <MythbuntuGuest14> hi
[22:49] <MythbuntuGuest14> kommt hier jmd aus deutschland oder should i talk in english?
[22:49] <laga> english is preferred
[22:50] <MythbuntuGuest14> k
[22:50] <MythbuntuGuest14> I tired to make my Happauge nova s plus run under mythbuntu 8.04
[22:51] <MythbuntuGuest14> the card is show in the mythbuntu setup as analog V4l-tv-karte
[22:51] <MythbuntuGuest14> but it didn#t find a channel or even a signal :(
[22:52] <laga> because you need to set it up as a DTV 3.x card
[22:55] <MythbuntuGuest14> k, device number is set to 0 , "signalüberschreitung" 60000 ms and time"überschreitung" is set to 62500
[22:55] <MythbuntuGuest14> have i configure somethng else?
[22:58] <MythbuntuGuest14> which frequency (khz) need I to use?
[23:00] <laga> 23:56 < Falballa`> laga: 'astra' could be (#1) scanfrequenzen fuer ASTRA19.2?E - 12551500 (frequency), vertikal (polarity), 22000000 (symbol rate), qpsk (modulation), or (#2) <http://www1.digitalfernsehen.de/frequenzen/astra1.html>, or (#3)
[23:03] <MythbuntuGuest14> hmm, where are no errors, but die pc also don't search something :(
[23:04] <MythbuntuGuest14> videosource is sat, or?
[23:05] <laga> depends how you called it ;)
[23:05] <MythbuntuGuest14> I see
[23:08] <MythbuntuGuest14> but it didn't work :(
[23:09] <MythbuntuGuest14> and when is try to scan all transponders, where are a error at the transpoder frequency
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest14> the card show me also that there's no signal input, but the sat-calbe is plugged in and my test-reciever shows me the channels
[23:16] <laga> try looking at the backend logs or try a different tool to check if your tv card works, like 'scan' from the dvb-utils package
[23:19] <SgtPepper> anyone know of some reference on Mythbuntu setup on a RAID 5?  I know I need to setup RAID1 for boot but cant seem to make it work.
[23:20] <MythbuntuGuest14> how can i use scan? what have i to type in the terminal?
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest14> lspci shows me that the card is installed


[02:05] <imgbot> [03:05] <imgbot> [03:25] <imgbot> [03:25] <imgbot> [04:16] <imgbot> [04:16] <imgbot> [09:11] <sil2100> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/rtm-20150213/+merge/249680 <- can this get top-approved?
[09:37] <ogra_> grmpf ...
[09:37] <Mirv> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/rtm-20150213/+merge/249680 is unapproved
[09:57] <sil2100> cihelp: we're missing tests from recent ubuntu-rtm run of 242 in krillin
[09:57] <sil2100> cihelp: http://rtm-dashboard.ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/krillin/242:20150223:20150216-fe747ac/346/ - did some machine go offline?
[09:58] <psivaa_> sil2100: let me take a look
[10:04] <psivaa_> sil2100: The phones could not get to 'http://derived.archive.canonical.com/' during a couple of runs. Looks like a temp network glitch. I've kicked the failed ones off for now. will check on that in a bit
[10:06] <sil2100> psivaa_: thanks!
[10:06] <sil2100> jibel: ^
[10:07] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: hey! Give us a sign whenever you get any reports of criticals from the client ;)
[10:09] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, ack
[10:16] <ev> psivaa_: is this in an apt-get update? Could we do the apt-get update || apt-get update || apt-get update trick?
[10:18] <psivaa_> ev: yep, possibly. looking into it
[10:20] <ev> thanks!
[10:38] <mzanetti> trainguards: I'd need a reconfig of silo 0. added an ubuntu-ui-toolkit branch
[10:48] <sil2100> mzanetti: on it
[11:01] <mzanetti> sil2100: thank you :)
[11:04] <mzanetti> sil2100: can you translate that for me? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-000-1-build/339/console
[11:05] <sil2100> mzanetti: it seems someone made a direct upload to the archive of UITK
[11:05] <mzanetti> hmm... ok
[11:05] <sil2100> Let me check
[11:06] <mzanetti> that means I could just drop that branch again
[11:06] <mzanetti> does it?
[11:06] <sil2100> hmmm
[11:07] <sil2100> mzanetti: it's a bit strange that you try to build a merge that's targetting the staging branch
[11:07] <sil2100> This can also cause some additional problems, as now there's more version mismatches
[11:07] <mzanetti> ah... right
[11:08] <Mirv> uitk staging shouldn't be used as landing target, correct
[11:08] <sil2100> mzanetti: since trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk has all the versions, and staging is missing many many commits it seems
[11:09] <Mirv> trunk's changelogs are only occasionally merged to staging
[11:09]  * mzanetti confused
[11:11] <mzanetti> sil2100: anyways, seems I need to cherry-pick that commit to a branch against trunk and then add it to the silo
[11:11] <mzanetti> will do
[11:11] <mzanetti> thanks
[11:44] <jibel> pete-woods, I failed silo 7, and switching from French to English messages are still in French. If I take a new photo when the device is in English then the message for the recorded video is translated to English but the message for new photos is still in French.
[11:44] <jibel> -and
[11:56] <pete-woods> jibel: as I probably didn't  mention. this requires changes to the apps also, they currently are not doing the correct thing. we will also need to update photos and and music app
[11:56] <pete-woods> but those apps are click packaed, and I don't know how to put them in the silo
[11:57] <pete-woods> jibel: I can provide an updated .click for the music app to test against, if that would help?
[12:10] <rvr> dbarth__: Silo 4 + silo 8 failed. "Unable to dispatch url 'intent://" ...
[12:10] <rvr> dbarth__: https://pastebin.canonical.com/126099/
[12:26] <jibel> pete-woods, can you provide an update for the music-app, if it works I'll pass the silo
[12:33] <mzanetti> trainguards: a silo for unity8, row 65 please.
[12:33] <sil2100> mzanetti: on it!
[12:33] <mzanetti> thanks :)
[12:35] <sil2100> bfiller: hey! Could we get this approved somehow? https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/history-service/rtm-remove_obsolete_tools/+merge/247179
[12:37] <mzanetti> sil2100: I just approved the branch in silo rtm/20. sorry for that :/
[12:37] <sil2100> mzanetti: thanks :)
[12:37] <dbarth__> rvr: checking
[12:38] <Mirv> sil2100: hmm, was rtm 005 still on the ones to be landed, now I forgot already? I've run my AP test suite with that, but I'm wondering whether I'll ask ric to have the actual upstream bug test on it or whether it will be forgotten?
[12:57] <pete-woods> jibel: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jonik2nlo0yebr/com.ubuntu.camera_<IP_ADDRESS>9-foo_armhf.click?dl=0
[12:57] <pete-woods> an updated camera app
[12:58] <pete-woods> jibel: you need to run it at least once, so that the infographics db gets updated
[12:58] <jibel> pete-woods, OK, thanks. I'm trying it now.
[12:58] <pete-woods> but after that you should see the picture count on the greeter update after only updating the language. i.e. won't have to start the app
[12:58] <pete-woods> I've just tried it on my device, so reasonably confident it works :)
[13:08] <jibel> pete-woods, it's all good. I tried with en, fr and es. Are there bugs for the click packages?
[13:09] <pete-woods> jibel: I've just linked them all under that central bug
[13:09] <pete-woods> maybe should split?
[13:10] <pete-woods> I've linked my camera app branch to the bug
[13:11] <jibel> pete-woods, that's fine but I just see a task for the music-app, there should be a task for the camera app too.
[13:11] <pete-woods> jibel: added :)
[13:12] <jibel> pete-woods, ah perfect, that's why it didn't want me to add one :)
[13:49] <om26er> alex_abreu, Hi!
[13:50] <alex_abreu> om26er, hi :)
[13:50] <om26er> alex_abreu, re: silo13, one of the packges in the ppa is already obsolete as a later version was uploaded to ubuntu-rtm. Can you see if the silo is in its expected form ?
[13:50] <om26er> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-013/+packages
[13:52] <alex_abreu> om26er, echking
[13:55] <alex_abreu> om26er, I think it needs a reconfigure ... sorry, one of the package in the ppa is not there anymore in the MR lists for the silo :/ (the html5 one)
[13:55] <alex_abreu> om26er, the only bit that should land is the webapps-qml one
[13:56] <om26er> alex_abreu, hmm, well that means the silo is good to go for testing since installing the silo wont pull the html5 package
[13:56] <alex_abreu> om26er, so it is then :)
[14:03] <Mirv> jibel: the bug of unity-webapps-qml in rtm-010 still has no target or tags, the trello comment says "OK, but ask Pat to add a milestone." -> me not 100% sure whether to publish
[14:08] <jibel> Mirv, wait for Pat to confirm that it is wanted in RTM then publish
[14:08] <Mirv> ok
[14:09] <Mirv> jibel: where is om26er? he moved rtm-013 to under testing 20mins ago, but I've just checked that silo is unusable because of both rtm-010 landing and ubuntu-html5-theme outdated. I added a note to the spreadsheet and trello.
[14:10] <jibel> Mirv, I don't know, he is not on any IRC channel
[14:10] <Mirv> so it seemed, so those notes will need to be enough
[14:11] <jibel> Mirv, I moved the card back to need qa sign off
[14:11] <jibel> and blocked
[14:24] <Mirv> jibel: thanks
[14:26] <Mirv> dbarth__: alex_abreu: ^ see above for rtm-013 discussion. since rtm-010 is landing unity-webapps-qml would need a rebuild after 010 has landed, and ubuntu-html5-theme is already outdated in the 013 PPA due to some earlier landing
[14:27] <alex_abreu> Mirv, yeah, silo 13 should not contain html5 bit, it should be reconfigured, ... and rebuilt yes
[14:27] <alex_abreu> Mirv, could you reconfigure it? ... I'll wait for silo 10 to land before building
[14:28] <Mirv> alex_abreu: reconfig + ubuntu-html5-theme removal done, and ok, thanks!
[14:30] <alex_abreu> Mirv, thx !
[14:30] <Mirv> jibel: since sil2100 is away, I'll ask you whether you mentioned rtm-005 (qtdeclarative) being still planned to land or not? I've done regression testing and wondering whether to ping ricardo to do the actual bug fix testing so that we could at some point mark it as being upstream tested.
[14:31] <jibel> Mirv, we'll defer this silo
[14:32] <sil2100> Mirv: I'm here, but deep in code (when not preparing lunch)
[14:33] <sil2100> Mirv: as jibel said, on the meeting it was set as skipped
[14:34] <Mirv> jibel: sil2100: ok, thanks, I was a bit already under that impression based on earlier discussion.
[14:34] <Mirv> sil2100: just go back, then :)
[14:36] <dbarth__> Mirv: want me to rebuild silo 010?
[14:36] <Mirv> pmcgowan: morning. rtm fix for bug #1409051 is QA sign-off:d but with a note "OK, but ask Pat to add a milestone.", and the bug still lacks the milestone (or a mention that do not land)
[14:37] <Mirv> dbarth__: no, don't touch! :) 013 was the to-be-rebuilt after 010 lands.
[14:37] <Mirv> dbarth__: and alex said he'll handle it
[14:38] <pmcgowan> Mirv, ok will do in a min
[14:39] <dbarth__> Mirv: ah sure, sorry; ok 13 and alex_abreu doing it
[14:48] <bfiller> sil2100: approved the MR for silo 16
[14:54] <pmcgowan> Mirv, done
[14:56] <Mirv> thanks
[15:00] <Mirv> ogra_: can you ack oxide 1.0.0 -> 1.3.0 dep change? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-010-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-webapps-qml_0.1+15.04.20150213~rtm-0ubuntu1.diff
[15:00] <sil2100> bfiller: thanks!
[15:00] <sil2100> Let me publish
[15:09] <sil2100> mandel: hey! How's work on rtm silo 000 going?
[15:10] <ogra_> Mirv, ack
[15:11] <Mirv> thanks
[15:14] <mandel> sil2100, blocked due to the fact that the fix makes other, already present bugs, more obvious :-/
[15:14] <mandel> sil2100, so  I have to fix 2 more bugs, if it is needed, release it and I'll required another one
[15:26] <sil2100> mandel: ok
[15:26] <sil2100> mandel: thanks for the info
[15:27] <mandel> sil2100, sorry if it was not early enough
[16:57] <sil2100> cihelp: hey! I noticed that we're missing around 300 tests for krillin vivid rests on the smoketesting dashboard: http://rtm-dashboard.ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/krillin/120:20150223:20150210-95b6a9f/347/
[16:58] <sil2100> plars: can you take a look what happened? ^ :)
[16:58] <plars> sil2100: will do, give me a moment - dealing with several fires at the moment
[16:58] <sil2100> Sure, not a top-priority
[17:02] <balloons> popey, I'm looking at things myself for the moment since plars is quite busy it seems :-)
[17:02] <balloons> happy monday plars. I'm looking for some help on the terminal core app jobs. I was hoping you could check the job parms for me. It seems some of the jobs are pulling from lp:ubuntu-terminal-app while others pull from lp:ubuntu-terminal-app/reboot.
[17:05] <elopio> sil2100: do you know if there's something in the dashboard autopilot tests that still needs py2?
[17:05] <plars> balloons: give me a moment
[17:07]  * davmor2 hugs popey
[17:13] <popey> sil2100: can you provide me links to all dashboards where I can see AP status? I have seen various links to numerous dashboards, but I don't know which ones you guys look at, which ones QA gate on.
[17:25] <plars> sil2100: it looks like one of them failed to unlock during the ubuntu-system-settings tests, and the other timed out - let me retry those two sets completely
[17:27] <plars> balloons: so istr that we were asked a while back to enabled testing on the reboot branch, but also leave the testing on the original branch
[17:27] <plars> ah, it looks like maybe fginther was already looking at this from the backscroll
[17:28] <balloons> plars, yes I believe that is correct.. Now the "reboot" branch is trunk so everything can/should simply point to it
[17:28] <plars> balloons: ok, unless he's done it already I'll push a branch to remove the reboot one then
[17:28] <sil2100> popey: so, for per-image-based test-results the most important links are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/Smoketesting
[17:29] <sil2100> popey: normally I would say to look at krillin ubuntu-rtm, but I suppose with the focus switch to vivid we would also like to have it working for krillin vivid
[17:29] <sil2100> plars: thanks!
[17:29] <sil2100> elopio: sadly, I have no information on that
[17:31] <popey> thanks sil2100
[17:38] <jgdx> cihelp: is there a sim card in makos that we run AP tests on?
[17:39] <plars> jgdx: no
[17:39] <jgdx> plars, thanks.
[18:00] <fginther> plars, I've manually disabled the ubuntu-terminal-app-reboot jobs until you're able to make that MP
[18:00] <plars> fginther: thanks, one sec
[18:07] <robru> kenvandine: around for a packaging ack? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-017-2-publish/22/artifact/
[18:08] <jibel> bfiller, ^ camera is OK to land
[18:09] <sil2100> \o/
[18:15] <jibel> bfiller, the camera crashes sometimes (it starts but takes a moment while apport is generating the crash file) but it's already a problem with build <IP_ADDRESS>4. So not blocking on it and trying to find the root cause.
[18:15] <bfiller> jibel: ok thanks, is there a bug for the crash?
[18:16] <jibel> bfiller, I can file a bug "the camera crashes randomly" but not really useful until we find rough steps to reproduce.
[18:17] <jibel> bfiller, I gave the crash file to Kaleo if he can get anything useful out of it
[18:19] <bfiller> jibel: thanks
[18:19] <bfiller> jibel: so I will push a new click package into the store then for camera
[18:20] <jibel> bfiller, OK. ui-extras0.2 must be seeded for the editor, and the editor translated.
[18:20] <robru> brb
[18:28] <rvr> Kaleo: ping
[18:28] <bfiller> jibel: I'll take care of that
[18:28] <rvr> bfiller: Kaleo: Silo 17 needs a pot update for camera app, as it contains a new string, "Edit"
[18:29] <bfiller> rvr: Kaleo you can push the updated pot file to trunk
[18:58] <Kaleo> rvr: on it
[18:58] <rvr> Nice
[18:58] <rvr> dbarth__: alex_abreu: With Google Maps installed, intent works ok
[18:58]  * ogra_ watches Kaleo stirring the pot
[19:00] <Kaleo> bfiller, rvr: pot file updated in trunk
[19:00] <rvr> Perfect
[19:00] <Kaleo> (push is taking its sweet time)
[19:00] <alex_abreu> rvr, awesome
[19:01] <rvr> alex_abreu: Does silo 4 need additional testing?
[19:02] <alex_abreu> rvr, mmmh which one is silo 4?
[19:03] <rvr> alex_abreu: url-dispatcher
[19:03] <rvr> alex_abreu: I was told to test 8+4 in the same batch
[19:03] <rvr> tedg: ^
[19:07] <alex_abreu> rvr, mmh isn't it a dup of silo 8?
[19:08] <alex_abreu> rvr, yeah it is ...
[19:08] <rvr> Meh
[19:08] <alex_abreu> rvr, so my guess is that we should remove silo 4 (L13)
[19:09] <rvr> alex_abreu: Ok, I'll approve silo 8
[19:09] <rvr> Hmm.. actually, I'm going to recheck
[19:12] <alex_abreu> rvr,  :)
[19:12] <alex_abreu> ok
[19:18] <dbarth__> rvr: \o/
[19:29] <rvr> dbarth__: alex_abreu: Approved
[19:39] <bfiller> kenvandine: can you ack the packaging changes in rtm 17 please?
[19:40] <kenvandine> bfiller, i'll look
[19:42] <kenvandine> bfiller, ubuntu-ui-extras is removing quite a few depends
[19:42] <tedg> alex_abreu, Saw some pings while I was at lunch, all good?
[19:42] <alex_abreu> tedg, yup ... all good
[19:43] <kenvandine> bfiller, was the libaccounts and libnotify build depends just for the old share component?
[19:44] <bfiller> kenvandine: yes I think so
[19:44] <kenvandine> -         libqt5sql5-sqlite,
[19:44] <kenvandine> -         libqt5webkit5-qmlwebkitplugin,
[19:45] <kenvandine> bfiller, i guess that is from the browser component switching to oxide?
[19:45] <kenvandine> at least the webkit dep
[19:46] <bfiller> kenvandine: right, though not sure why we ever depended on webkit for the share stuff
[19:46] <kenvandine> it wouldn't have been for the share stuff
[19:46] <kenvandine> i assume this is just cleaning up cruft
[19:47] <bfiller> kenvandine: but clearly don't need it anymore for the editor component
[19:47] <bfiller> kenvandine: yup, old cruft
[19:47] <kenvandine> there are other depends for libqt5sql5-sqlite, so at least it won't be removed from the image because of this
[19:47] <kenvandine> ok... +1 from me
[19:48] <kenvandine> robru, +1 on packaging changes in rtm 17
[19:48] <robru> kenvandine: thanks!
[19:48] <bfiller> kenvandine: thank you
[19:48] <kenvandine> np
[19:53] <kenvandine> rsalveti, you still have that bt agent_rework branch in silo 18
[19:54] <rsalveti> kenvandine: hm, lemme look at that
[19:54] <kenvandine> rsalveti, it isn't built atm...
[19:54] <kenvandine> i think it was just hard to find someone that could test it
[19:54] <rsalveti> kenvandine: yeah, let me give this another shot now
[19:55] <rsalveti> kenvandine: ping you back in ~3h
[19:55] <kenvandine> rsalveti, thx!
[19:55] <bfiller> popey: new camera-app uploaded to store, please review when you can
[19:56] <bfiller> rsalveti: we are (finally) read for seed change to rtm to add qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras0.2
[19:56] <rsalveti> bfiller: RTM, right?
[19:56] <bfiller> rsalveti: yeah, already in vivid
[19:57] <rsalveti> bfiller: sure, let me take care of that
[19:57] <bfiller> rsalveti: thanks
[19:58] <kenvandine> rsalveti, definitely ping me, i have another conflicting silo building as well, but if you can verify that silo 18 passes, i'll land that one first
[19:58] <rsalveti> kenvandine: sure
[20:13] <popey> bfiller: done.
[20:13] <bfiller> popey: thanks
[20:13] <popey> np
[20:23] <bfiller> robru: I need to add telepathy-ofono to silo rtm 11, but it just needs to be a no-change rebuild. what's the best way to do that?
[20:23] <bfiller> it has to be rebuilt against telepathy-qt5 which is in silo 11
[20:24] <robru> bfiller: branch lp:telepathy-ofono somewhere you own, then propose it for merging back into itself. it'll make an empty merge, you can add that to the spreadsheet and i can reconfigure it.
[20:28] <bfiller> robru: https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/telepathy-ofono/no-change-rebuild/+merge/250674 added to spreadsheet
[20:29] <robru> bfiller: ah thanks. which row?
[20:29] <bfiller> robru: 44
[20:30] <fginther> kenvandine, I see the ubuntu-system-settings tests are passing again. Do you know if there was a specific problem that was causing the app startup failures?
[20:31] <robru> bfiller: ok, reconfigged, if you hit build it should do the right thing
[20:32] <bfiller> robru: cool
[20:32] <kenvandine> fginther, yeah, kind of
[20:33] <kenvandine> fginther, we had a test that was blowing up because we think it caused a conflict with other stuff using the session bus
[20:33] <kenvandine> once it blew up, everything after it blew up too
[20:34] <kenvandine> we removed the offending conflict, which got everything passing again
[20:34] <kenvandine> fginther, however, jgdx is still working on figuring out a proper fix so we can add the test back
[20:35] <kenvandine> it was introduced by a change in uitk, that was making it require a session bus to look for a setting
[20:35] <fginther> kenvandine, well, glad you at least found the problem
[20:35] <kenvandine> which then caused our's to fail to get the session bus, something along those lines :)
[20:35] <fginther> kenvandine, and thanks for the update
[20:35] <robru> rsalveti: hm, no qa for powerd? ;-)
[20:36] <rsalveti> robru: nops, enabling debug by default (upstart), so we can debug another issue
[20:36] <kenvandine> fginther, it was pretty frustrating to chase down, but it's nice to see green again :)
[20:36] <rsalveti> to be reverted before the next milestone
[20:36] <robru> rsalveti: ah ok, no worries
[20:37] <fginther> kenvandine, understandable. I'm trying to document this a little so that we have some better approaches to handling problems like these in the future. Not sure anything useful will come of it, but we may be at least be able to offer better advice
[20:39] <kenvandine> fginther, indeed, problems like this one end up consuming so much time just trying to understand it
[20:59] <robru> awesome.
[22:43] <kenvandine> rsalveti, i went ahead and published 25, i'll kick a rebuild of 18 after it merges
[22:43] <kenvandine> rsalveti, it won't affect your testing of 18 though
[22:43] <kenvandine> it was AP only
[22:43] <rsalveti> kenvandine: oh, great, was just testing it
[22:43] <kenvandine> rsalveti, sorry, wasn't sure ;)
[22:43] <kenvandine> but it won't affect you, if you mark it as passed
[22:43] <rsalveti> kenvandine: no worries :-)
[22:44] <kenvandine> i'll publish it after it rebuilds
[22:49] <rsalveti> crap, thunderstorm, might get offline
[23:21] <robru> whoa, only 1 free silo. crazy
[23:40] <rsalveti> yay, crash in system settings
[23:40] <rsalveti> some bt devices are almost impossible to connect with mako