[00:00] <genii> HappySomethingSo: I have to leave soon but am interested in how this issue ends. If you are on tomorrow, please give an update
[00:00] <TJ-> michagogo: did you configure lxc-usernet ?
[00:00] <HappySomethingSo> genii: ok, thank yo for your help
[00:01] <michagogo> TJ-: I'm running privileged for now
[00:01] <michagogo> I was under the impression that's not needed
[00:01] <michagogo> (created with the ubuntu template as root, not download, and sudoing lxc-start)
[00:02] <TJ-> michagogo: OK, you've set the veth and bridge in the config?
[00:02] <michagogo> Er, maybe not? Which config, the container's?
[00:03] <michagogo> I thought the default on Ubuntu just works... There does seem to be a veth device
[00:03] <TJ-> michagogo: see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html#lxc-network
[00:04] <michagogo> I think I tried reading that. I don't know that I understand it fully...
[00:05] <michagogo> Right now, I don't want it to be accessible from the outside -- I want to be able, as a start, to SSH from the host into the container
[00:06] <Jubilant> Why does fresh install never set my prefix and root correctly :/
[00:06] <Jubilant> dat grub rescue life I always forget which partition to use and it takes forever to find it again
[00:11] <melodoron> I just upgraded to Xenial, and apt-get update is broken
[00:11] <melodoron> It gets to "Fetched 187 kB in 5s (31.2 kB/s)" and then never finishes
[00:11] <melodoron> Is there a way to debug this?
[00:13] <DarthShader2> melodoron - apparently apt is broken right now (for me as well).
[00:14] <DarthShader2> relevant logs: "<CodFection> whenever I run apt-get update it stucks"
[00:14] <DarthShader2> "<HappySomethingSo> \join #ubuntu-server"
[00:14] <hrkljus> appstreamcli 100% CPU usage right?
[00:17] <michagogo> Hm. Why does the container know who I am?
[00:17] <michagogo> I ran sudoedit, it put me in vi
[00:17] <squinty> melodoron, hmmm....must be a new buglet. it was working fine yesterday.....
[00:17] <michagogo> vim*
[00:17] <michagogo> Now, when I exit, it says "E138: Can't write viminfo file /home/micha/.viminfo!"
[00:18] <squinty> michagogo,  gksudo gedit <filename>
[00:18]  * [Saint] wonders how other people, if at all, work around the whole "encrypted home and key based ssh authentication with password disabled" thing
[00:18] <michagogo> squinty: Huh? *inside* an LXC?
[00:18] <TJ-> michagogo: the sudo shell environment
[00:19] <[Saint]> I'm using a fairly simply script in my unencrypted ~ in .sshrc
[00:19] <michagogo> TJ-: right now I'm in `sudo lxc-attach`
[00:19] <[Saint]> is there a better way to manage automatically decrypting home with ssh key based login?
[00:19] <TJ-> [Saint]: easily :)
[00:19] <squinty> michagogo, didn't realize you were using lxc
[00:19] <michagogo> squinty: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out sshing into a fresh lxc...
[00:20] <[Saint]> TJ-: let me guess "don't use encrypted ~"? ;)
[00:21] <TJ-> [Saint]: /etc/ssh/sshd_config has "AuthorizedKeysFile      /etc/ssh/authorized_keys.d/%u" ... and you create the directory and then put the file at /etc/ssh/authorized_keys.d/$USER
[00:21] <[Saint]> TJ-: I think you're misunderstanding the problem.
[00:21] <[Saint]> If I wasn't doing that I wouldn't even be able to initiate the connection.
[00:22] <[Saint]> What I aim to do is decrypt ~ automatically.
[00:22] <[Saint]> which for some inexplicable reason doesn't happen for ssh key based login with password disabled.
[00:23] <TJ-> [Saint]: that's how it's done. As long as the authorized_keys is *outside* the $HOME then when the user does key-based log-in the pam_ecryptfs  module will unlock and mount the $USERs ecryptfs
[00:23] <TJ-> [Saint]: all my systems have been configured that way for many years, without any problems
[00:24] <michagogo> When I look at the container with lxc-info/lxc-ls, I see it appears to have 2 IP addresses, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:24] <michagogo> When I lxc-attach to the container, both of those addresses seem to point to the container
[00:24] <[Saint]> TJ-: on my servers it doesn't actually decrypt and this needs to be handled by the user - I suspect you're using *buntu Desktop, yes?
[00:24] <michagogo> On the host, .1 points to the host, and .196 says "no route to host".
[00:25] <TJ-> [Saint]: server
[00:25] <TJ-> [Saint]: decryption and mounting is done by pam_ecryptfs once the user has authenticated
[00:25] <TJ-> [Saint]: have you altered the PAM config?
[00:26] <TJ-> [Saint]: amongst other entries the important one is "/etc/pam.d/common-auth:auth     optional        pam_ecryptfs.so unwrap"
[00:26] <michagogo> Anyone got any ideas?
[00:33] <nacc> michagogo: what version of host?
[00:33] <[Saint]> TJ-: Appears to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/364015
[00:33] <[Saint]> marked as WONTFIX
[00:33] <michagogo> nacc: trusty
[00:33] <nacc> michagogo: also, #lxcontainers may be a better place to ask
[00:33] <nacc> michagogo: on xenial, with a random container, i don't see that with `lxc list`
[00:34] <michagogo> nacc: In the past (and now) I've tried a bunch of times, that channel seems mostly inactive
[00:34] <nacc> michagogo: are you using lxd?
[00:34] <michagogo> No
[00:34] <michagogo> What's lxd?
[00:34] <nacc> :(
[00:35] <nacc> michagogo: ah not available in trusty anyways
[00:35] <nacc> michagogo: well, it's like a container hypervisor. But basically lets you do `lxc launch ubuntu:xenial` and it spits out a container name running xenial
[00:36] <nacc> and you can then just do `lxc exec <container> bash` and you're in
[00:36] <nacc> no need for sudo, etc
[00:36] <nacc> the images are maintained on linuxcontainers.org, iirc, and cached locally
[00:36] <nacc> michagogo: might be a reason to setup a xenial environment on its own, if you're really interested in containers
[00:36] <michagogo> Well, not sure that's an option...
[00:37] <michagogo> At this point I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to get https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/blob/master/README.md to work with LXC in what seems to me to be the "correct" way
[00:37] <nacc> michagogo: there's also #lxc-dev, but you might get mocked for asking for support in a dev channel (but then again you coudl say no response in the support channel)
[00:37] <michagogo> That is, treating the container like a VM -- starting, stopping, SSHing in, etc
[00:38] <nacc> michagogo: right, lxd is a backend for lxc, basically
[00:38] <nacc> so if lxd is running, you use lxc as client side interction still
[00:38] <nacc> but in any case
[00:38] <michagogo> (right now, the LXC support there basically hacks together a rootfs that can sort of pass for an LXC, but breaks fairly often, and seems to be broken on xenial)
[00:39] <[Saint]> So, instead of my convoluted workaround with sshrc, would doing something like this in the unencrypted user's .bash_login be "better"?
[00:39] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/Cm0vzCFF
[00:39] <nacc> michagogo: sounds like a support question for this project, no?
[00:40] <nacc> michagogo: that projects home page can't be reached by me, i'll assume something buggy.
[00:40] <michagogo> nacc: well, there isn't really much support. It's pretty small. My idea was to see if I can figure out how to take the flow used for KVM builders and adapt that for "LXC-as-a-VM"
[00:40] <michagogo> So at this point I'm just trying to figure out how LXC works
[00:40] <nacc> i think it's a bad idea to even think of LXC as a VM :)
[00:40] <michagogo> nacc: I don't mean as a VM
[00:40] <michagogo> I mean, working with it like you would with a VM
[00:41] <michagogo> i.e. creating it with the proper tools, starting and stopping it, and connecting into it, rather than debootstrapping into a file and tricking lxc-execute into running scripts in that environment
[00:42] <michagogo> But I can't seem to get as far as being able to create a container, start it, and SSH into it...
[00:42] <nacc> michagogo: i unfortunately don't have a trusty environment around right now
[00:43] <michagogo> Anyway, it's 3:42 AM here. I think I'm going to call it a night, probably just throw away what I've tried at this point and maybe try again from scratch in my clean Trusty Sandbox VM at some point in the future
[00:43] <nacc> michagogo: what have you tried to do, sorry?
[00:43] <michagogo> nacc: I lxc-created a container
[00:43] <michagogo> I lxc-started it
[00:44] <michagogo> And I can;t figure out what I need to do in order to be able to ssh into it from the host
[00:44] <nacc> michagogo: did you try: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/getting-started/
[00:44] <michagogo> nacc: yeah, I saw that
[00:45] <nacc> michagogo: that's where i'd start, in particular the bridge setup
[00:45] <michagogo> I created a privileged container with the ubuntu template (not download)
[00:45] <nacc> michagogo: a container shouldn't have two IPs generally, and it definitely shouldn't have one be a gateway IP
[00:45] <nacc> at least, i'd find that surprising
[00:46] <michagogo> nacc: the only thing I see on that page regarding bridge setup is the file that lets a user account create veth devices
[00:46] <nacc> michagogo: if you want to try to get it working again later, ping me and i will spin up a trusty VM
[00:47] <nacc> michagogo: from a general ease-of-use thing, though, i'd really recommend trying lxd
[00:47] <[Saint]> TJ-: I have to ask - but, you're not just saying "it works" after having already unwrapped the encrypted home at some point with a local login, are you? I honestly can't see any way for this flow of ssh+encrypted home+key based auth+password login disabled to work with an encrypted home and every bug I can dig up on the topic basically writes it off as wontfix.
[00:47] <nacc> michagogo: what "packages" is gitian-builder referring to?
[00:48] <edgardoanaya> How Can I Make Music Play in My Laptop?
[00:48] <edgardoanaya> How Can I Make Music Play in My Laptop?
[00:49] <edgardoanaya> Im New To Linux
[00:49] <nacc> edgardoanaya: do you mean the software to use for music in Ubuntu? or do you mean you don't get any soudn?
[00:49] <edgardoanaya> Help
[00:49] <[Saint]> why didn't "in" deserve a capital letter? and why are you typing in camel case?
[00:49] <bazhang> !players | edgardoanaya
[00:49] <edgardoanaya> Right No Sound
[00:49] <nacc> !sound | edgardoanaya
[00:50] <bazhang> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | edgardoanaya
[00:50] <bazhang> install that edgardoanaya
[00:50] <bazhang> see the sound troubleshooting above edgardoanaya and the players link as well
[00:51] <edgardoanaya> Well I tried all The Simple Solutions But None Worked!!!!
[00:52] <michagogo> nacc: Gitian is used to build Bitcoin Core, among other things
[00:52] <michagogo> I'm pretty sure The Tor Project also uses it for their builds
[00:52] <[Saint]> edgardoanaya: can you please type properly, without every word having a capital letter? It is driving my text-to-speech nuts.
[00:53] <nacc> michagogo: i see; well, i can help you probably get lxc working, like i said, just give me some notice to get a vm spun up
[00:53] <bazhang> edgardoanaya, did you install the restricted extras as above
[00:53] <bazhang> edgardoanaya, which players have you tried
[00:54] <michagogo> Okay, I'm not sure when I'll get around to it... I don't often have free time for things like this
[00:54] <edgardoanaya> ok So How Can I Listen to My Sound?
[00:54] <michagogo> If I remember, I'll try pinging you when I'm going to try again
[00:54] <nacc> michagogo: sounds good
[00:56] <zumba_addict_> other than squid, which forwarding proxy would you recommend?
[00:57] <bazhang> edgardoanaya, I have asked you several questions, please respond with more info instead of just repeating
[00:59] <JanC> anybody else having trouble with apt-get update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845 ?
[01:01] <edgardoanaya> I want to thank All Here On this Channel For UR Support
[01:05] <hid|ninja> hi
[01:06] <hid|ninja> i wanted to record from my laptop sound card with this command
[01:06] <hid|ninja> ffmpeg -f pulse -i alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor output.wav
[01:07] <hid|ninja> it alays worked with ubuntu 14.04, but not with 16.04
[01:07] <hid|ninja> i found the audio source name with `pactl list sources`
[01:07] <hid|ninja> pls help
[01:08] <Dlabz> Hi, guys. Update of a remote server from 15.04 to 15.10 got interupted (ctrl+c). What's my best course of action? thanks.
[01:09] <precise> hid|ninja, does it ouput an error, exit code, etc? We need more information...
[01:10] <hid|ninja> precise: no error, the wav file sounds like it was recorded from my intern microphone
[01:11] <precise> so just to clarify: internal mic =/= sound card in your scenario?
[01:12] <hid|ninja> hmm
[01:12] <hid|ninja> for me, internal mic is the one next to the laptop webcam
[01:13] <precise> Ok, got ya.
[01:14] <hid|ninja> so i took the sound card output: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor
[01:18] <precise> On the ffmpeg man page, checkout line 1283, specifically:
[01:18] <precise>                ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 1 -i hw:1 -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 /tmp/out.mpg
[01:22] <precise> perhaps force the alsa format with the -f flag instead of the pulse format? Forgive me, I don't have much experience with FFMPEG.
[01:24] <forgot_my_name> do chinese eat butter?
[01:25] <hid|ninja> precise: i have this error: [alsa @ 0xedb4a0] cannot open audio device hw:1 (No such file or directory)
[01:26] <precise> Because hw:1 was just an example...
[01:26] <precise> Something like this:
[01:26] <hid|ninja> it's like hee https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA#Selectingtheinputcard, but i really dont get
[01:27] <forgot_my_name> hid|ninja, youre trying audio capture?
[01:27] <hid|ninja> yes forgot_my_name
[01:27] <precise> Can you pastebin the output of arecord -l? hid|ninja
[01:28] <forgot_my_name> hid|ninja, errr. as far as I know, ALSA is good for playback, while pulse is for recording
[01:29] <precise> forgot_my_name: you are probably right, I know next to nothing about Audio Engineering, etc. I'm just a linux guy who happened to be in the room :P
[01:30] <k00l3th4n> Is anybody else having problems updating today?
[01:30] <hid|ninja> here is the paste: http://pastebin.com/0TSZN9f5
[01:31] <precise> k00l3th4n, yeah. It is an error with appstream, it is currently in the proposed repository and will be pushed out to xenial at a later date, in order to get around this issue, uninstall appstream "sudo apt remove appstream", reinstall when the update is pushed out.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> k00l3th4n: xenial ? this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845 ?
[01:32] <bumblehead> `$ sudo apt-get update` hangs on my machine. would someone advise me to help resolve it?
[01:32] <precise> hid|ninja, you said you have a soundcard and a built in microphone?
[01:32] <Eagles13> Has anyone here got an experience with mdadm?
[01:32] <precise> bumblehead:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845
[01:32] <k00l3th4n> precise: Thanks so much. I thought my machine was going down. lol
[01:33] <Eagles13> I'm having a very similar issue to over here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1223457 with my /dev/md0 disappearing after rebooting.
[01:33] <precise> No problem, we were all having the issue earlier :P
[01:33] <hid|ninja> yes precise
[01:33] <hid|ninja> nothing else is plugged
[01:33] <precise> Shouldn't there be more than one device if you have multiple recording devices?
[01:34] <bumblehead> precise: thanks this looks like the same issue I am having
[01:34] <bumblehead> workaround is to remove the appstream package
[01:34] <k00l3th4n> I figured it had something to do with that package being it was eating half my CPU and stalling.
[01:34] <rafael> olá. Boa noite
[01:34] <precise> bumblehead, yeah it is a 3 year old bug that for some reason just reared /its ugly face today.
[01:34] <forgot_my_name> hid|ninja, so youre trying to capture analog to digital
[01:35] <Guest30905> Speak portuguese?
[01:35] <OerHeks> !pt
[01:35] <precise> Thanks ubottu
[01:35] <Guest30905> thanks
[01:35] <bumblehead> precise: is it safe to `$ sudo apt-get remove appstream`?
[01:36] <precise> bumblehead: yes, it is not required by aptitude
[01:36] <precise> I am typing this from a machine that has no appstream
[01:36] <OerHeks> bumblehead, that is safe, as appstream is optional
[01:36] <k00l3th4n> Worked like magic on my rig.
[01:36] <hid|ninja> precise: i have all listed here: http://pastebin.com/QD972sKx
[01:37] <hid|ninja> forgot_my_name: analog to digital? idk
[01:37] <bumblehead> precise: thank you
[01:37] <bumblehead> DerHeks: thank you
[01:37] <precise> np bumblehead
[01:37] <hid|ninja> just trying to record the all sounds coming from the sound card
[01:37] <bumblehead> rebooting to be sure everything is good...
[01:37] <forgot_my_name> hid|ninja, ok
[01:38] <precise> hid|ninja: try this: ffmpeg -f pulse -i hw:0  output.wav
[01:39] <forgot_my_name> i think that will do....
[01:39] <bumblehead> everything is good now I was able to update
[01:39] <bumblehead> thanks for the help :)
[01:39] <forgot_my_name> im corssing my fingers
[01:39] <precise> Are the broken yet?
[01:39] <OerHeks> have fun bumblehead
[01:40] <bumblehead> and
[01:40] <bumblehead> just one more question --when will unity 8 be finished
[01:40] <hid|ninja> precise: it says: hw:0: No such process
[01:40] <hid|ninja> :(
[01:41] <forgot_my_name> processes?
[01:41] <forgot_my_name> thatshould be a dev not a process
[01:42] <hid|ninja> yes, process
[01:43] <forgot_my_name> i think hw:0 is the odd...  - there should be another way to express that
[01:43] <precise> forgot_my_name: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA#Selectingtheinputcard
[01:43] <precise> ninja posted that earlier...
[01:44] <precise> ffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:0 output.wav
[01:44] <precise> ???
[01:44] <hid|ninja> did you see the pactl command?
[01:45] <precise> Me?
[01:45] <hid|ninja> it says: Source #0 State: SUSPENDED
[01:45] <somsip> !who | hid|ninja
[01:45] <hid|ninja> precise: and forgot_my_name
[01:45] <hid|ninja> my bad
[01:46] <precise> hid|ninja: check the pactl man page under the suspend-source option.
[01:46] <precise> It takes args SOURCE and a 1 or 0
[01:47] <precise> Something like:
[01:47] <precise> pactl suspend-source [YOUR MIC] 0
[01:48] <precise> YOU MIC can be defined (according to the man page) by its symbolic name or numeric index, which you can find in your pactl pastebin
[01:48] <lucas-arg> got another problem with 16.04 or some reason my top menu bar fonts look thinner than normal fonts
[01:48] <hid|ninja> you mean in "Name"?
[01:49] <hid|ninja> precise:
[01:49] <precise> Something like this:
[01:49] <precise> pactl suspend-source alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor 0
[01:49] <hid|ninja> ah ok
[01:49] <precise> That 'should' resume that source.
[01:50] <precise> Run the pactl list again to verify
[01:51] <hid|ninja> hmmmm, it says: Failure: Invalid argument
[01:56] <Blakes5> Hello, I've got a Samsung 64GB SD card. I wrote an image file to it using Disk Image Writer, IIRC, but now the SD card only reports as 7.4GB. Gparted only reports it as 7.4GB. I've used other various utilities in Windows and they only report it as 7.4GB. How do I reclaim the rest of the space?
[01:56] <destinydriven> I just tried to run software updater and it just hangs . .  . upwards of 30 minutes
[01:57] <precise> Sorry, hid|ninja, I'm out of ideas. Hopefully you can figure it out, maybe drop by tommorrow when more people are on (midday)?
[01:57] <Blakes5> destinydriven, try apt-get update instead.
[01:57] <destinydriven> Blakes5, tried that  . . it hangs there too
[01:57] <precise> destinydriven: There is a bug in appstream
[01:57] <hid|ninja> yes thanks precise
[01:57] <hid|ninja> i'll come later :>
[01:57] <precise> np hid|ninja
[01:57] <destinydriven> precise, oh that's a bug?
[01:58] <forgot_my_name> Blakes5, I heard that there are some rogue cards around
[01:58] <precise> destinydriven: Ithttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu1
[01:58] <precise> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu1
[01:58] <Blakes5> forgot_my_name, this is a known working card. It was reporting 64GB before I imaged it.
[01:58] <precise> The patch is currently in the propsed repo, to be pushed out soon
[01:59] <precise> destinydriven^
[01:59] <destinydriven> so no workaround?
[01:59] <precise> Work around is to uninstall appstream
[01:59] <precise> sudo apt remove appstream
[01:59] <destinydriven> apt-get update isn't working for me
[01:59] <destinydriven> ok
[01:59] <precise> then reinstall appstream when they send out the fix
[01:59] <destinydriven> pretending I know why I need appstream . .. .
[01:59] <destinydriven> ok cool
[02:00] <precise> appstream is optional, so really you don't even need it
[02:00] <destinydriven> ok great
[02:00] <destinydriven> let me reboot and do that
[02:02] <destinydriven> precise, that sorted it out, thanks
[02:02] <precise> nop destinydriven
[02:02] <precise> *np
[02:03] <destinydriven> :D
[02:04] <destinydriven> ok so . . .  ubuntu center == apstream? cuz that just disappeared on me
[02:04] <Blakes5> I think I remember now, I used DD to write an image to the SD card. Any idea how to recover the missing space?
[02:05] <Hulio> hi , how to unzip in ubuntu via command for   somezip_1of2.zip  and somezip_2of2.zip ?
[02:05] <Hulio> anyone?
[02:05] <Hulio> i have 2 zip file
[02:05] <reisio> Hulio: unzip -l foo
[02:05] <reisio> unzip foo.zip
[02:05] <reisio> unzip -d newdir foo.zip
[02:05] <Hulio> the first file ?
[02:05] <reisio> Hulio: if it's split into volumes, the first should suffice
[02:05] <forgot_my_name> blake5: heheheheheh..... DD may be a bitch if you dont treat her with attention
[02:05] <reisio> rarely it is the last instead of the first
[02:06] <Hulio> oh
[02:06] <reisio> and some archive formats are smart enough to know regardless which volume you point at
[02:06] <Hulio> let me try
[02:06] <reisio> Hulio: although if it's a ZIP, it might just be two entirely separate archives
[02:06] <Blakes5> forgot_my_name, well, it worked. I think it just didn't worry about the rest of the space.
[02:06] <reisio> as ZIP is a popular format among the ignorant :D
[02:06] <precise> destinydriven: yeah, not permanent though, just reinstall appstream when they push the patch out.
[02:06] <Blakes5> forgot_my_name, if I had a 64GB image of something I guess I could use DD to write it to the SD card but I don't know where I would get something like that or how to create it.
[02:07] <destinydriven> precise, ok I see
[02:07] <forgot_my_name> blake5 and you want to get the space back in a "non destructive" way?
[02:07] <Blakes5> forgot_my_name, oh, I don't care what's on the card. I'm trying to repurpose it
[02:08] <forgot_my_name> Blakes5, what about gparted?
[02:08] <Blakes5> I actually have another 64GB card in my phone that is partitioned for 64GB. I guess I could clone that with DD.
[02:08] <Blakes5> forgot_my_name, gparted only sees 7.4gb
[02:08] <El_Chapo> hi
[02:08] <Datz> Hi, I'm having trouble network troubles with my install of 16.04. I can't install packages, and I can't ping outside servers. I'm currently logged in remotely though. I think there is some sort of DNS trouble. Any ideas?
[02:09] <El_Chapo> Is anyone else having trouble installing Ubuntu 16.04 due to appstream issues?
[02:09] <forgot_my_name> Blakes5, weird
[02:10] <Hulio> reisio, man, unzip -l file.zip is only listing
[02:10] <Hulio> i need to extra brother
[02:10] <precise> El_Chapo, yes. Appstream is not required and you can uninstall as a work around if you'd like.
[02:10] <El_Chapo> Datz, I think you might be having the same issue as me. It's not DNS it's something to do with appstreamcli
[02:11] <forgot_my_name> damn...gotta go
[02:11] <forgot_my_name> bye
[02:11] <Datz> humm, I see
[02:11] <precise> The patch is in the proposed repository, and planned to be rolled out into stable eventually.
[02:11] <Datz> This is what I'm getting trying to install a package : http://hastebin.com/iwozasesig.vhdl
[02:11] <reisio> Hulio: it's important to do -l first to make sure it won't dump contents all over your cwd
[02:12] <Hulio> reisio, nevermind, i was able to double click the file
[02:12] <Hulio> and drag outside the folder :)
[02:12] <Hulio> i use GUI
[02:12] <precise> Datz: I can ping the mirrors, it is probably on your end.
[02:12] <precise> Can you traceroute to 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'?
[02:12] <Datz> precise: yes, I can't even ping google.com
[02:13] <Datz> but I can ping IP addresses
[02:13] <precise> Datz: That is most likely DNS.
[02:13] <Ali1> guys
[02:13] <Ali1> my apt is not working
[02:13] <Ali1> its stuck
[02:13] <Ali1> any ideas?
[02:14] <precise> Ali1: Known bug, to be patched shortly.
[02:14] <precise> Ali1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.9.4-1ubuntu1
[02:14] <precise> Uninstalling appstream is a workaround, but you will lose your software center
[02:14] <precise> Datz, can you pastbin the output of:
[02:15] <precise> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Ali1: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325168&page=2 . There are other work-a-rounds .
[02:16] <precise> Bashing-om: Isn't that the same workaround?
[02:16] <Ali1> Bashing-om, so should I wait for them to fix ?
[02:17] <Datz> precise: Getting help in -server let you know if I get it working. Thanks.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> precise: Yes and no " sudo pkill appstreamcli " in another terminal .
[02:18] <precise> NP Datz
[02:18] <Ali1> precise, should I wait
[02:18] <Ali1> ?
[02:18] <precise> Patience Ali1
[02:18] <Ali1> ok
[02:18] <Bashing-om> Ali1: Depends on the need , You can bet the fix will be in place rather quickly .
[02:18] <precise> Bashing-om, doesn't that just end the process?
[02:19] <Blakes5> well DD is working on the SD card....we'll see.....
[02:19] <El_Chapo> What's quick? Hours, Day ,Week?
[02:19] <precise> El_Chapo, for a patch?
[02:19] <El_Chapo> yeah
[02:20] <Bashing-om> precise: Yes ,, the " sudo apt remove appstream " seems to be the more popular .
[02:20] <Ali1> Bashing-om, actually I am trying install fresh ubuntu
[02:21] <Ali1> and its stuck here
[02:21] <precise> Bashing-om: I'm not saying your wrong, but everytime someone comes in here, I say "sudo apt remove appstream" I just want to be sure I am giving the proper advice that's all.
[02:21] <precise> Ali1: Are you installing ubuntu currently or is this just recently installed?
[02:22] <Ali1> currently installing
[02:22] <Ali1> removed ubuntu due to apt update stuck problem
[02:22] <Ali1> but turns out its stuck in installing fresh aswel
[02:22] <Bashing-om> precise: You do good . If there were a problem .. many here watch and will be quick to correct .. Ya gotta love this channel .
[02:23] <precise> Ali1: You re-installed because you couldn't apt update/upgrade?
[02:23] <precise> Bashing-om: Oh good :)
[02:23] <Ali1> yea precise
[02:23] <Ali1> now how to make it install
[02:23] <Ali1> Its stuck
[02:23] <Ali1> in retrieving file step
[02:24] <precise> Restart install without an internet connection, uninstall appstream on first boot.
[02:24] <Ali1> but dont u think updates are essential during installation?
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Ali1: see The Cogs' solution : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325168&page=2 .
[02:25] <Ali1> or I can get the same updates after installation?
[02:25] <Ali1> ok
[02:25] <precise> Ali1: Yes, but by reinstalling while the appstream bug is active, your install will hang permanently
[02:25] <precise> You can get updates after install
[02:25] <Ali1> precise, it will be same as I could with internet connection right?
[02:25] <Ali1> or I will miss out something?
[02:26] <DouglasK> Where do I find the HowTo to let one's KUbuntu install listen for incoming remoteX connections from localhost? Ideally I'd like to listen only on localhost as it's always from an SSH tunnel (eg: ssh -x <host>, then xeyes) (xposted to #kubuntu, but it's quiet in there currently)
[02:26] <precise> Ali1: You can connect to the internet after install and run apt update/upgrade to get what you missed out.
[02:26] <Ali1> oh ok
[02:26] <Ali1> so nothing is missed then right
[02:26] <precise> Bashing-om: He is actually in the middle of installing ubuntu.
[02:26] <Ali1> thanks :)
[02:26] <Ali1> coz I dont wanna re install again after the bug is fixed
[02:27] <Ali1> to get what I missed out during installation due to internet connection
[02:27] <precise> Bashing-om: The appstream bug causes the apt update to hang, even during first install.
[02:28] <precise> Ali1: You generally don't have to reinstall Ubuntu too much, just make sure to research the problem and drop by here.
[02:28] <precise> Ali1: It takes quite a bit to bork the OS
[02:28] <Bashing-om> precise: Yes .. on a fresh install is where that bug 1st reard it's head . " So then I tried to install without downloading updates as it went. The install worked, but a post-install apt-get update hung, again with appstreamcli stuck at 100% CPU." .
[02:29] <El_Chapo> lol
[02:29] <LargePrime> hi
[02:30] <precise> Well, I got to work, I'll see you all later...
[02:30] <Ali1> precise, so
[02:30] <Ali1> after installation
[02:30] <Bashing-om> precise: Take care .. come back in good shape .
[02:31] <Ali1> I need to run apt-get remove ?
[02:32] <DouglasK>  Or, failing that, how do I setup kubuntu to listen for X11 connections?  I can futz with iptables after.
[02:34] <JMichaelX> anyone else experiencing problems with the proprietary Nvidia drivers in 16.04?
[02:35] <JMichaelX> all desktop effects (in Kubuntu) have ceased working for me
[02:36] <d3ad7rack> hi all
[02:38] <DouglasK> Does anyone here do remoteX with 16.04?
[02:38] <d3ad7rack> not sure what the heck happened to my machine since it's been powered down, but for some reason it's not updating now.... I run sudo apt-get update and it seems to pull down the updates, but then it prints out the last line saying it fetched 'x' bytes in 'x' seconds and seems like it freezes
[02:38] <d3ad7rack> using 16.04
[02:39] <OerHeks> d3ad7rack, you suffer this bug, lots of heat now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[02:39] <d3ad7rack> ahhh, ty OerHeks, glad to see I'm not the only one :(
[02:39] <Datz> precise: ended up adding a nameserver (google) to resolve.conf
[02:39] <OerHeks> remove that appstream and you can update again ( it is optional, not critical)
[02:40] <Datz> precise: it could be a local network problem for me too apparently.
[02:40] <Datz> FYI, but thanks for your help/interest.
[02:40] <d3ad7rack> OerHeks: gotcha, ty very much :)
[02:40] <d3ad7rack> ubottu: ty :)
[02:40] <Hulio> what is 'sudo alien ?
[02:40] <Hulio> alien??
[02:41] <OerHeks> d3ad7rack, please read the whole post, there is a fix in it by dl & install the patched\
[02:41] <OerHeks> c/patches
[02:41] <OerHeks> but i would remove it all.
[02:41] <goddard> i can't update it hangs at "Fetched 281 kB in 1s (163 kB/s)   "
[02:41] <goddard> that is with sudo apt update
[02:41] <DouglasK> Hulio,Alien is a tool to translate between RPM and DEB, iirc.
[02:41] <squinty> Hulio,  apt show alien
[02:41] <OerHeks> goddard, see my answer to d3ad7rack
[02:42] <goddard> OerHeks: i think i missed it
[02:42] <OerHeks> oh, you just joined
[02:42] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[02:43] <rohan> i did an apt-get update and "appstreamcli" is pegging my cpu to close-100%
[02:43] <rohan> known issue? any fixes?
[02:43] <El_Chapo> try now
[02:43] <El_Chapo> I think they just fixed it
[02:43] <rohan> ah
[02:44] <rohan> nope, still the same
[02:44] <squinty> rohan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[02:44] <OerHeks> El_Chapo, don't think, as it won't be fixed by itself.
[02:44] <rohan> squinty: catching up on it
[02:45] <rohan> so installing the new appstream package should fix this issue?
[02:45] <OerHeks> that is one solution, rohan
[02:45] <squinty> rohan, yes
[02:46] <rohan> OerHeks: what's the other one? :)
[02:46] <rohan> i was about to follow https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/24
[02:46] <squinty> rohan,  or you can temp remove appstream (it will also take out the software center but can be reinstalled after fix comes through)
[02:46] <OerHeks> removal of appstream.
[02:47] <rohan> ah ok
[02:47] <goddard> appstreamcli
[02:47] <goddard> ?
[02:47] <rohan> guess i'll just dogfood the -proposed package then :)
[02:47] <squinty> rohan, fwiw, I elected to remove earlier today...apt started working again
[02:48] <squinty> goddard,  sudo apt remove appstream
[02:48] <El_Chapo> OerHeks, oops I was looking at the other ticket
[02:48] <rohan> pretty nasty thing to happen to an LTS :(
[02:49] <rohan> but following instructions in c24 fixed the issue
[02:49] <kr4x> wii
[02:49] <ptrz> has anyone else come here complaining about apt-get update hanging with 100% CPU on the development release?
[02:49] <ptrz> the process in question is appstreamcli
[02:49] <squinty> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[02:49] <d3ad7rack> OerHeks: ty again, very very much, can't say how much I appreciate it
[02:49] <OerHeks> ptrz, lots of heat on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[02:49] <ptrz> thanks!
[02:49] <El_Chapo> is they a functional test suite etc for Ubuntu? Maybe it needs one?
[02:50] <serez> halo
[02:50] <El_Chapo> or acceptance test I mean
[02:51] <squinty> El_Chapo,  probably better asked in #ubuntu-discuss
[02:51] <Hulio> I think linux is more complicated then windows
[02:51] <Hulio> people who know linux are more likely geek
[02:52] <ptrz> El_Chapo: it's hard to test drivers without actually having the device
[02:52] <squinty> Hulio, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <ptrz> and driver code is an increasingly large proportion of Linux
[02:52] <serez> okay boss
[02:53] <destinydriven> all4u2luv78
[02:53] <El_Chapo> prtz, virtual environments? It would catch certain errors like the installer not working.
[02:54] <ptrz> El_Chapo: you can't easily virtualize a physical device
[02:54] <Hulio> Can ubuntu be infected with virus?
[02:54] <ptrz> and you often almost formally can't, because no one knows precisely how the device works
[02:55] <Hulio> if i browse web (example porno) will i get infected with virus?
[02:55] <ptrz> (i.e. no reliable or complete documentation available, or well-known and widespread hardware bugs)
[02:55] <Hulio> I know windows system easily get virus
[02:55] <Hulio> please advise
[02:55] <ptrz> Hulio: this is probably not the place to ask
[02:55] <Hulio> where can i ask?
[02:56] <steven__> Hulio: Short answer, yes.
[02:58] <El_Chapo> ptrz, I mean more simple acceptance testing for releases, so scripts that will automatically install the release candidate and verify the nothing hangs during install. To catch errors that may not be device specific.
[02:59] <Bashing-om> !virus | Hulio
[03:01] <Hulio> how to tell my full path of JDK ?
[03:01] <Hulio> in the example  ...someone have version 7 like this :  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[03:02] <Hulio> but i have installed version 8, so how to find the full path?
[03:03] <somsip> Hulio: java -version (or ll/usr/lib/jvm for the path)
[03:12] <Hulio> any of u know the username and password for oracle XE ?
[03:12] <Hulio> I install the oracle express in ubunu 16.04  ...but i have no clue what is the username
[03:13] <reisio> Hulio: never wasted time with oracle myself, but it's typical for the default user to be 'root' and the password to be unset
[03:15] <Ali1> reisio, how did u fix apt lag bug
[03:15] <Hulio> reisio, actually SYSTEM
[03:15] <Ali1> I cant figure out
[03:15] <Hulio> user=SYSTEM
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Ali1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 ? see #30 .
[03:24] <Ali1> LTS version has bugs like that..
[03:24] <Ali1> urghh
[03:31] <Hulio> hi, i have this file in a folder  how to make a link     on desktop so i can double click it
[03:31] <Hulio> sqldeveloper.sh    <---- i need to run this
[03:31] <Hulio> current i do it in terminal with   'sudo ./sqldeveloper.sh
[03:31] <Hulio> is there a way to make a file shortcut so i can just double click it?
[03:32] <x3mboy> Why you need to run SQL Developer as root?
[03:33] <Hulio> because without put sudo it wont start
[03:33] <x3mboy> A .sh file if has x permission for user can be launched with double click, but i think you want to do is a .desktop file
[03:33] <Hulio> show me man
[03:33] <Hulio> this is what i want to do :   sqldeveloper.sh
[03:34] <x3mboy> I think you should use beesu, not sudo (because is a graphical tool)
[03:34] <SQL> x3mboy: what did you need me to do?
[03:34] <Hulio> currently in /opt/sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh
[03:35] <Hulio> currently the only way to run it by doing this in terminal:   'sudo /opt/sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh'
[03:35] <Hulio> i want to do something on desktop shortcut , all i have to do is double click
[03:35] <x3mboy> Hulio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries
[03:35] <Hulio> just like window shurtcut
[03:35] <Hulio> can't anyone just give me the answer?
[03:36] <x3mboy> Hulio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries
[03:36] <Hulio> still i dont understand what to do in the link
[03:36] <DouglasK> There.  removed the nolisten from /etc/X11/xinit/xsessionrc, created a ufw rule to allow connections to remotex on lo, but to block them on all other interfaces.
[03:37] <vortex_> i just freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 and im trying to update it with apt-get update but it is just hanging
[03:37] <vortex_> Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[03:37] <vortex_> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [94.5 kB]
[03:37] <vortex_> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [92.2 kB]
[03:37] <vortex_> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [94.5 kB]
[03:37] <vortex_> Fetched 281 kB in 1s (254 kB/s)
[03:38] <Bashing-om> vortex_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 ,
[03:38] <x3mboy> You are probably the faster reader i ever see
[03:47] <Encxapsulation> is linux really obsolete?
[03:49] <codfection> guys I have apt bug
[03:49] <codfection> anyone got?
[03:57] <energizer> I just installed a Unity Dash scope called recoll. I don't think it's the dash is using it though. When I install a new dash scope, do I need to do something to enable it?
[04:00] <Mauved_> hi!!!
[04:00] <Mauved_> ?
[04:00] <Mauved_> :d
[04:00] <goddard> ya?
[04:00] <Mauved_> Español?
[04:00] <Mauved_> :D
[04:00] <goddard> no
[04:01] <Mauved_> Speak spanish?
[04:01] <goddard> no
[04:01] <Mauved_> :C
[04:01] <Mauved_> And are you from?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> !es | Mauved_
[04:21] <fantomas_> y
[04:34] <ausjke> what's wrong with appstream tonight?
[04:34] <ausjke> I had to kill -9 it and apt-remove-it?
[04:34] <ausjke> otherwise cpu is 100% and no way to run apt, can't believe this
[04:34] <Bashing-om> auditlog_: Yep ! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 .
[04:44] <callaw_86> hi everyone
[04:45] <arcjon> hi
[04:46] <callaw_86> i'm new here...
[04:46] <callaw_86> how it works?
[04:46] <Ben64> ask an ubuntu support question, wait for an answer
[04:46] <somsip> callaw_86: you ask support question, people might help you. You want to chat, tye "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[04:48] <sakrecoer> hi! am i the only one experiencing problems with apt getting stuck and eating processor? as in, is there an issue with the mirrors, or has my computer gone cuckoo out of the blue?
[04:49] <Bashing-om> sakrecoer: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 .
[04:49] <sakrecoer> thanks Bashing-om
[04:50] <Bashing-om> sakrecoer: :) You are not alone .
[04:50] <sakrecoer> incidently, i noticed this on most mirrors, maybe it is all in order, but it looks weird: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712
[04:50] <sakrecoer> sorry wrong link
[04:50] <sakrecoer> http://ubuntu.mirror.su.se/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[04:52] <Bashing-om> sakrecoer: agreed, that is not right .
[04:54] <Bashing-om> sakrecoer: The list : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors .
[04:58] <sakrecoer> Bashing-om: the same loop is in most mirrors i try
[05:01] <sakrecoer> i noticed it yesterday, it started arround 00:10 for me (been looking forward to the nm fix so heavy apt updating :D) i then ntocied this loop in my mirror and the "last Modified" date of that /ubuntu folder was 2016-05-19 23:56
[05:03] <sakrecoer> actauly, i haven't found one mirror that hasn't got the loop yet..
[05:07] <YankDownUnder> ...now I understand why things have been a bit freaky...right oh...patience is a virtue...
[05:21] <psykosonic> hi i was told this network can help me with my installation of ubuntu, im i right?
[05:22] <psykosonic> anyone?
[05:24] <psykosonic> can anyone help me?
[05:24] <Ben64> ask a question to find out
[05:25] <CanIHazMemeCats> hi
[05:25] <drama> ih
[05:26] <psykosonic> well ive just tried installing ubuntu on my laptop and its been on the installing screen for about an hour not and it hasnt budged im not sure what to do
[05:27] <Ben64> psykosonic: what installing screen
[05:28] <psykosonic> all it says is retrieving file 60 of 60, its to install ubuntu on my pc its done everything else
[05:29] <Ben64> hmm
[05:30] <psykosonic> i cant think what ive done wrong but this is the second time ive tried it and im still getting nothing
[05:30] <hateball> psykosonic: Is this Ubuntu 16.04 you're trying to install?
[05:31] <psykosonic> yes it is ubuntu 16.04
[05:32] <El_Chapo> psykosonic, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845
[05:33] <El_Chapo> psykosonic, You have to boot using the live cd first then use gparted to format the drive and run the install with ethernet unplugged
[05:34] <El_Chapo> Until they fix the issue
[05:36] <psykosonic> whats gparted is that the same as the universal usb installer? and ive kept my ethernet cable in could that be the problem?
[05:38] <hateball> psykosonic: GParted is a program to manipulate your disks and partitions. You can run it once the live-media has booted
[05:38] <hateball> psykosonic: And as El_Chapo said, you need to be offline during install
[05:38] <hateball> I'm not sure you have to manually partition things, the installer should handle it so long as you are offline
[05:38] <psykosonic> im running firefox on ubuntu now can i download this right now?
[05:39] <psykosonic> and the just start the installation again?
[05:39] <hateball> psykosonic: Just try unplugging your ethernet connection and run the installer again
[05:40] <psykosonic> okay il try that first and then if it doesnt work il try GParted
[05:41] <psykosonic> thanks for the help
[05:41] <jackcom> what is VNC?
[05:43] <lyze> jackcom, a server/client thing to let people remotely control a pc
[05:44] <jackcom> oh it is almost same with netcat?
[05:44] <jackcom> lyze: ?
[05:45] <lyze> jackcom, no, not at all. Lets say you vnc onto a different guys computer then his computer sends you all the time a screen recording of his computer. then you see that and can controll the computer from him with normal keyboard/mouse inputs.
[05:46] <lyze> jackcom, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing
[05:46] <jackcom> thanks lyze :)
[05:46] <jackcom> you are very kind
[05:47] <jackcom> then i can control other computer remotely? lyze ?
[05:47] <lyze> Yup!
[05:47] <jackcom> oh great
[05:48] <jackcom> other computer instead of mine
[05:48] <jackcom> 8)
[05:48] <Maratus> Does anyone here know if there's a PPA for a cmake version newer than 3.0 on 15.04?
[05:52] <jackcom> vnc is same with remote remedy by special company?
[05:52] <jackcom> lyze: ?
[05:53] <lyze> Never heard of that
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Maratus
[05:56] <drama> Maratus, just dl it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/cmake
[05:56] <CanIHazMemeCats> !help | CanIHazMemeCats
[05:59] <nexii> I kind of have a noobish question for setting up an email server.  I bought a domain called foo.com and the hostname for the server is mail.  So would I enter mail.foo.com as the server name in my client application?
[06:00] <Maratus> How did 15.04 reach eol so quickly? I thought it was a stable release?
[06:01] <somsip> !15.04 | Maratus
[06:01] <drama> Maratus, 14.04 was the LTS
[06:02] <drama> Maratus, 16.04 is the new LTS now
[06:02] <drama> i think there is an upgrade path from 15.04 to 16.04 ?  I upgraded from 15.10 and it was painless
[06:04] <Maratus> I've got so many dependencies that would have to update, and I'm running a set of experimental drivers, I'm not sure if an upgrade would be worth the risk.
[06:04] <drama> Maratus, i agree
[06:05] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[06:06] <lundmar> did ubuntu just break apt update / appstreamcli ??
[06:06] <drama> i ran wheezy a long time after eol with no problems
[06:11] <Guest97344> Will the r9 390 ever be supported on Ubuntu 16.04? I've tried Unity, Gnome, XFCE, Elementary and Kubuntu and have had not luck
[06:11] <Guest97344> Its an ASUS btw
[06:11] <hateball> Guest97344: Supported in what way? What issue are you having?
[06:12] <Maratus> Guest97344: Tell me about it. I've got a 390 and I've spent a full month trying to get OpenCL to work.
[06:13] <hateball> Supposedly there are more amdgpu improvements in kernel 4.6 and upwards, so you could try a mainline kernel
[06:13] <Maratus> I eventually just gave up and kept the unstable gallium3d drivers I used as a last resort.
[06:13] <Guest97344> Sorry for my brevity. . It will cause the OS to crash after about 20 minutes of use.  An in Unity it crashes if you open the launcher.  I've tried adding drivers via the dialogue and nothing has appeared.
[06:13] <hateball> !mainline
[06:13] <hateball> Guest97344: fglrx is no longer supported, so there's no drivers to add
[06:14] <Guest97344> That makes sense hateball.  So I should compile a later kernel and try my luck?
[06:14] <hateball> Guest97344: Check the link above, no compiling needed
[06:14] <Guest97344> Ok thankyou very much
[06:23] <yosefh> Hi
[06:23] <yosefh> My wifi has completely stopped working
[06:24] <yosefh> what do i do?
[06:24] <hateball> yosefh: What has changed since it was last working?
[06:24] <yosefh> Kernel update i think
[06:24] <yosefh> but it was several kernels ago
[06:24] <yosefh> and i have no idea which to use
[06:24] <yosefh> or how to fix it
[06:26] <hateball> yosefh: so you cannot see any networks at all, or you cant connect if you see them?
[06:26] <yosefh> [   12.199542] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled
[06:26] <yosefh> [   17.197778] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk!
[06:26] <yosefh> [   17.197806] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section
[06:26] <yosefh> That
[06:27] <yosefh> device sort of loads i guess?
[06:27] <yosefh> but no networks
[06:28] <liuxu> Hello,today I installed ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop,it's Dell Inspiron 15 7559,i7 6700hq,display card gtx 960m,16G ram,128G ssd(100M /boot,/),1T hdd(16G swap,/home),and boot with legacy.When I start system,about 3 minutes,It's death,mouse can't move,everything is static...and I reboot the laptop,than display "The system is running is low-graphics mode"。。
[06:28] <nexii> I kind of have a noobish question for setting up an email server.  I bought a domain called foo.com and the hostname for the server is mail.  So would I enter mail.foo.com as the server name in my client application?
[06:29] <hateball> yosefh: what chipset is it?
[06:30] <hateball> nexii: Sounds correct, yes
[06:30] <yosefh> hateball, http://pastebin.com/rCKTdNuY
[06:30] <yosefh> lots of info there
[06:30] <hateball> liuxu: 14.04 has quite old nvidia drivers, and you have a recent chipset. Either upgrade to 16.04, or use https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa to get to at least 361
[06:31] <Seveas> liuxu: for new installs, 16.04 is recommended. No guarantee that it will fix your problem, but at least you'll have two years worth of kernel improvements.
[06:31] <yosefh> hateball, iwlwifi-7260
[06:32] <hateball> yosefh: Hmmm. I have the same chipset at home, and I've not had any issues. Sadly at work now so I can't look at my setup in detail
[06:33] <yosefh> hateball, anyway to reset it all?
[06:33] <yosefh> hateball, other than "just reinstall"
[06:34] <Seveas> yosefh: is the linux-firmware pacakge still installed?
[06:34] <liuxu> hateball,Seveas，ok，thanks~
[06:34] <hateball> yosefh: I don't quite know. afaik the intel firmware is in linux-firmware
[06:34] <hateball> yosefh: so you could try apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware
[06:34] <Seveas> hateball: it is
[06:34] <yosefh> Seveas, possibly not but I still have ethernet
[06:35] <yosefh> Seveas, also your name looks kind of familiar
[06:35] <Seveas> yosefh: try the command hateball gave
[06:35] <yosefh> ok
[06:35] <yosefh> Seveas, Ive done kernel upgrades since then, wouildnt it have the same effect
[06:35] <Seveas> I've been in here for almost 12 years, so you might have seen me before :-)
[06:36] <Seveas> yosefh: possibly, but if some file got corrupt, and the firmware package isn't updated, an update won't help
[06:36] <Seveas> a reinstall of that package is simple and safe
[06:37] <yosefh> Seveas, ok doing so now
[06:37] <yosefh> Seveas, done
[06:37] <Seveas> try rebooting to see if it now comes up properly.
[06:38] <phucktank> Hi, I'm trying to pci-stub one of my USB controllers to passthrough to a VM. It works with my GPU but I can't get the USB controller to stub
[06:39] <yosefh> brb
[06:39] <phucktank> Does anyone know what might be going on or an alternate method of passing through a usb controller?
[06:41] <yosefh> Keeps saying failed to run init ucode
[06:41] <yosefh> whenever kernel starts
[06:41] <akis> hi all. is there any problemtoday with ubuntu servers?
[06:41] <Seveas> yosefh: rats. That probably means an error communicating with the wifi chip then :(
[06:41] <yosefh> Seveas, did you see the logs i posted
[06:42] <Seveas> I did, but was hoping it was just broken firmware on disk, and not an error actually talking to the chip.
[06:42] <Seveas> 'cause I have no idea how to debug that
[06:44] <yosefh> Seveas, thanks for trying
[06:44] <akis> Is there any problem today with ubuntu servers? plz help.
[06:45] <Seveas> akis: 'ubuntu servers' means absolutely nothing. What's the problem you have?
[06:45] <Guest97344> Probably something to do with the repositories taking ages to update
[06:46] <Seveas> Guest97344: that means a bit more, but very little. There are tons of mirrors, and most people also blame problems random 3rd party repos on "ubuntu servers" :)
[06:47] <de-facto> Something always is blocking apt after i bootup in xenial, what can this be? i already killed aptd and deleted /var/lib/dpkg/lock but now it complains that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock is there
[06:48] <mhran> hello all
[06:48] <Seveas> de-facto: sudo lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:48] <mhran>  I am using the raspberry pi 2 with Ubuntu mate
[06:48] <Guest95798> Hi howdy
[06:49] <Guest95798> I port forwarded my ssh port on my ubuntusetver on vb, and was wondering how i find out the external ip address i need to connect to it from a different network
[06:50] <Guest95798> how do
[06:50] <hateball> yosefh: havent accidentally disabled wifi with hardware switch either?
[06:51] <yosefh> hateball, so yeah it seems like something that might have happend based ont he logs but my hardware switch isnt physical. So I couldnt even if i wanted to
[06:51] <Seveas> hateball: I don't think that would prevent host <-> chip communication, that tends to just disable the radio.
[06:51] <hateball> Hmmm
[06:51] <headlesschild> any updates on the apt bug for Xenial? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845
[06:51] <Seveas> yosefh: 'nmcli radio' should show you whether the radios are on or off
[06:52] <yosefh> Seveas, jackpot (says Disabled)
[06:52] <yosefh> how do i enable it
[06:52] <hateball> rfkill
[06:52] <yosefh> WIFI-HW  WIFI      WWAN-HW  WWAN
[06:52] <yosefh> enabled  disabled  enabled  enabled
[06:53] <yosefh> sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[06:53] <yosefh> no results
[06:53] <phucktank> Hi I am trying to passthrough a USB controller to a VM. I cannot get pci-stub to work. It works fine with my gpu but won't stub my USB. any ideas?
[06:54] <Androo> I attempted to upgrade a 14.04LTS box to 16.04, and it failed in the initial stages, I don't think it upgraded anything, but now apt seems to be configured for xenial and there are 400+ updates available for the system.  How can I revert that?
[06:54] <Axord> This appstreamcli issue is super embarrassing.
[06:54] <yosefh> sudo rfkill unblock all enables the bluetooth but not wireless
[06:54] <yosefh> Im out of time. Thanks for your help guys
[07:03] <ducasse> andatche: reinstall. the upgrade path from 14.04 to 16.04 is not ready yet.
[07:04] <akis> Seveas: i am trying with sudo apt-get update and cannot proceed. stops. i change server (from GR i choose main server), the system asked for ypdate, beginned udating cache and stopped. I am trying to update a fresh installation of 16.04 and the meanwhile i am writing from another notebook already 16.04 installed and cannot also finished with apt-get update. So that's why i am asking about servers. any idea?
[07:07] <phucktank> Hi i need help passing through a USB controller to a virtual machine
[07:11] <phucktank> Can anyone help me that has experience with pci-stub?
[07:11] <Serg_Penguin> hi ! `apt-get update` stops w/o messages, `-o Debug::Acquire::https=true -o Debug::pkgDPkgPM=true` gives no help - last messages are '102k in 2sec'. How to debug any further ?
[07:16] <Seveas> akis: pastebin the logs please
[07:17] <akis> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16517482/
[07:17] <phucktank> I can't get my usb controller to pci stub, it works fine with my gpu. Any ideas?
[07:18] <ducasse> 4
[07:19] <Seveas> phucktank: repeating your question every 10 minutes is quite annoying. If someone knows, they'll help.
[07:20] <Seveas> akis: you're saying it hangs at this point, after fetching? That means the servers are all fine, but your system has some strange issues processing what it downloaded.
[07:20] <Seveas> akis: which would be rather odd. The only explanation I can think of is having a full disk.
[07:22] <akis> Seveas: both systems? and  the new installation too? with a 1T hd? both laptops has the same problem with a fresh installation on them?  yesterday everything was ok.
[07:22] <Seveas> akis: that's why I said it would be rather odd. I'm probably wrong in my guess.
[07:23] <Seveas> maybe someone else has a better idea
[07:28] <phucktank> Well I feel like an idiot. In case you'd like to know apparently I don't have to pcistub it like the GPU. It just passes through np
[07:35] <survietamine> hello, on a 16.04 server, I don't get why when I'm trying to install collectl package, apt tells me that it will install a bunch of packages (including apache). I don't see those packages with apt-cache depends collectl
[07:36] <hateball> survietamine: the packages that collectl depends on could however depend on apache
[07:37] <akis> Seveas: does this http://askubuntu.com/questions/774918/apt-get-is-stuck-at-fetched-xxkb-in-xxsec has to do with?
[07:37] <survietamine> hateball: I doubt, only 3 dependencies: pciutils, libtime-hires-perl, libio-compress-perl. None of those packages will depend on apache2 or gnu plot.
[07:39] <somsip> !info collectl
[07:40] <somsip> survietamine: is it trying to install recommended packages by default? Try turning that off?
[07:40] <somsip> !collectl-utils |
[07:40] <somsip> !info collectl-utils | survietamine (this looks like it would install a lot)
[07:41] <somsip> !info collectl-utils trusty | survietamine (this looks like it would install a lot)
[07:42] <k1l> coldplot is recommended by collectl and pulls gnuplot and apache
[07:43] <survietamine> see: http://asciinema.org/a/3g4tnv4mlmjj15q9s2fkhuzqd
[07:43] <k1l> survietamine: try with --no-install-recommends
[07:44] <zazu> exit
[07:44] <survietamine> k1l: ok, I will try, but I'm trying to understand why I cannot see these dependencies for collectl
[07:44] <survietamine> somsip: how can I check/disable auto install recommended packages?
[07:45] <somsip> survietamine: k1l has just told you
[07:45] <survietamine> ah, sorry
[07:45] <somsip> np
[07:45] <k1l> survietamine: apt-cache depends collectl tells you that it suggests coldplot. which is the one with the heavy depencies
[07:46] <survietamine> k1l: ok, thanks, I'm a bit disappointed about the fact that my apt|apt-get install recommended packages by default. Is that new behaviour?
[07:46] <k1l> survietamine: if you want to turn that off in general: set APT::Get::Install-Recommends and APT::Get::Install-Suggests to false in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:47] <tomkmem> Hi, hope not stupid question but what's the general idea around automatically connecting to one's 'preferred' network in wpa_supplicant? say i have a network with priority 100 specified but it's not currently available so i connect to one priority 20. then my preferred one is available. how can i make it automatically connect ? so i need to write something myself ?
[07:47] <survietamine> k1l: thanks a lot
[07:47] <k1l> survietamine: there is a reason for this behavior. there might now be missing some functions from the programs you install due to missing suggested packages
[07:47] <akis> why apt-get update hungs at Fetched on both my systems (32 bit & 64 bit) with fresh installation of 16.04?
[07:48] <survietamine> k1l: ok, I understand, but I have a lot of servers and each has a specific roles, I don't want all that packages like apache or so on every one of my servers
[07:49] <survietamine> k1l: my guess is that behaviour is more useful for desktop users
[07:50] <k1l> survietamine: not only for desktop users. but some users might install that collectr and than wonder why that output cant be plotted or shown on the server under ip:port or such.
[07:51] <survietamine> okay, I'm not that kind of users, so I'll disable that. Thanks again
[07:51] <k1l> your systems, your decisions :)
[07:52] <StianL> Hi! Can anyone help me in getting maven to work with java-6-oracle? $JAVA_HOME is set correctly, "java -v" and "javac -v" gives the right version, but "mvn -v" gives me "Unsupported major.minor version 51.0".
[07:52] <akis> this http://software.moftalk.com/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04-MPtOh0qzV.html published 3 hours ago. what is going on???
[07:54] <somsip> survietamine: Referred to here I think. I know nothing except someone was discussing it earlier   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1583845
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> akis: try #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps for know issues
[07:56] <survietamine> somsip: is that really for me?
[07:56] <k1l> akis: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[07:56] <somsip> survietamine: the link you posted refers to appstreamcli running at 100% when apt-get stops. So yes. I think it is.
[07:56] <survietamine> uh?
[07:56] <somsip> survietamine: ah - no. to akis :)
[07:57] <survietamine> I only pasted an URL for asciinema of my "problem" with dependencies :p
[07:57] <akis> lotuspsychje: i am afraid is something new,  because i am facing today on 2 machines with fresh 16.04 instalation. no problem last days.
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> akis: ok try what somsip & k1l advise
[07:58] <somsip> akis: and if you do want to try installing the patched package, this comes with lots of warnings https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[07:58] <Anastasia19> I hv a 1GHz. Can I run Ubuntu
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> Anastasia19: yes
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Anastasia19
[07:59] <k1l> Anastasia19: look at Lubuntu
[08:00] <akis> somsip: there is a recent (3 hours ago) complain here http://software.moftalk.com/apt-get-update-hangs-in-16-04-MPtOh0qzV.html
[08:00] <somsip> akis: yes. You posted that. I followed it and gave you more information and suggested action in a link
[08:01] <k1l> akis: did you even read what i said?
[08:02] <somsip> akis: as did k1l (acknowledging)
[08:02] <akis> k1l: sorry, i dont, could you please post it again
[08:02] <k1l> akis: and ubuntu doesnt track suspicious 3rd party forums. so that doesnt bring you anywhere do demand ubuntu looking at those websites
 akis: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[08:05] <akis> k1l: "Take note to not reload the package list when the software&updates asks you to, as it will hang." that's true I faced it already. But, how can go over "fetched" stopping? "Disabling the xenial-backports solves the issue"?
[08:06] <k1l> akis: open the systemsettings, uncheck backports, press close, when asked dont reload the packagelist. then run a "sudo apt update" in terminal
[08:07] <christ_> hi guys
[08:07] <christ_> i love ubuntu
[08:08] <christ_> i want to put ununtu everywhere
[08:08] <akis> k1l: ok, i will try it right now and i report. but, why yesterday i hadn't this issue. i installed 16.04 2 days ago only
[08:08] <|avalon|> ,
[08:08] <|avalon|> ;
[08:09] <k1l> akis: i dont know. you can read the whole bugreport if you are interessted
[08:09] <christ_> but i don t know if it is possible . i have a eepad tft 101 asus , i don t find a good tutorial to install ubuntu on this pad .
[08:10] <christ_> can i try like w a live usb stick ?
[08:10] <christ_> so many questions? guys give me a hands to guide me
[08:11] <k1l> christ_: no. that is ARM hardware. you will need someone to make a specific iso for that exact tablet containing all the drivers etc.
[08:11] <k1l> christ_: best is to look at the community from that tablet. xda-developers is a good spot.
[08:12] <akis> k1l: i unchecked. i gave again apt-get update and again stopped at fetched. do i have to reboot to take effect?
[08:12] <christ_> ok thanks
[08:13] <k1l> akis: i dont have that issue here. i can only tell you what several people on that bugreport said would work.
[08:13] <akis> k1l: would work with or without reboot?
[08:14] <k1l> akis: i dont know. try a reboot
[08:14] <akis> k1l: ok
[08:14] <stratos> I have a apt-get problem: When I do "sudo apt-get update" it hangs after "Fetched 281 kB in 10s (27,4 kB/s)". Top shows me that "appstreamcli refresh" is consuming 100% cpu. This is on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[08:14] <rafgas> Help! My ubuntu won't boot! All I have is a emergency mode
[08:15] <k1l> stratos: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[08:16] <wuu> rafgas: more information pls
[08:17] <rafgas> I did an upgrade, rebooted and now it won't boot past Welcome to emergency mode",  and I'm logged in as root on cli
[08:19] <rafgas> @wuu I have ubuntu 16.04, fresh install with the mate desktop on a 3 year old computer. I'm not sure what info is relevant
[08:19] <somsip> !find pdf
[08:20] <hateball> rafgas: cat /var/log/apt/history.log |nc termbin.com 9999
[08:21] <wuu> rafgas: hat a similar problem - just thinking how i solved it
[08:21] <hateball> rafgas: if you've had a kernel update, that might have some regression. you could try rebooting and picking an older in grub menu
[08:21] <wuu> rafgas: have you tried booting the older kernel ?
[08:22] <rafgas> hateball: no net connection :(
[08:22] <rafgas> Wuu: how do I try that?
[08:23] <hateball> rafgas: reboot, hold/hammer left shift to get grub menu, pick an older kernel and press enter
[08:23] <jair> hello all
[08:23] <jair> are you guys having issues running apt-get update?
[08:23] <tahaan> Does anyone know where I can quickly "paste" a screenshot, something like pastebin?
[08:23] <jair> in ubuntu?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> tahaan: imgur.com
[08:23] <Myrtti> tahaan: imgur
[08:24] <rafgas> Wuu : no-go on older kernel :(
[08:24] <wuu> rafgas: is there no older kernel or does it drop you at the welcome screen
[08:24] <brunch875> tahaan: if you want to do all from terminal you can do this: scrot -e 'curl -F "clbin=@$f" https://clbin.com'
[08:24] <tahaan> Perfect lotuspsechje and Myrtti
[08:25] <wuu> jair define problems
[08:25] <rafgas> It says "error uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder A"  don't know if that helps
[08:25] <jair> getting stock and not completing the apt-get update
[08:26] <wuu> jair 16.04?
[08:26] <jair> wuu: do we have a default ubuntu set of source.lst
[08:26] <jair> yes
[08:26] <wuu> (10:15:46) k1l: stratos: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[08:27] <StianL> Found the answer to my question above. I had to use a previous version of maven, because the newest version wouldn't use java6.
[08:27] <rafgas> I see here that it also says " no ACPI video bus found"
[08:29] <wuu> rafgas: sorry no idea
[08:29] <akis> k1l: it worked! it read package list succesfully. thanks  lot.
[08:29] <k1l> akis: ok.
[08:31] <rafgas> Hateball : older kernel didn't work
[08:31] <nightfury_> hello
[08:31] <stratos> hmm  Launchpad bug 1579712 is not for regular users.. for instance there are lock files left over, clean up that is assumed everybody is supposed to intutively?
[08:31] <|avalon|> is there a way to roll-back update?
[08:32] <nightfury_> what?
[08:32] <|avalon|> undo update
[08:32] <de-facto> something is weird about my dpkg/apt in my box NOW, never had a problem before: both aptd and "gmain" (/usr/bin/python3.5) hold /var/lib/dpkg/lock for very long time. Well what causes this, and how do i prevent those from starting?
[08:33] <hateball> rafgas: what GPU do you have?
[08:33] <mcphail> |avalon|: no. Not automatically. Apt isn't designed for that
[08:33] <|avalon|> too bad, rafgas has no luck then
[08:35] <rafgas> I booted the *recovery mode* ran dpkg and now it seems to work, sorry, I should have tried that before coming here
[08:35] <ducasse> |avalon|: if you want to be able to rollback updates there's software that can do that if / is btrfs.
[08:35] <de-facto> hah this is a child of gnome-software (gmain): should i just go ahead and serial kill those?
[08:35] <de-facto> where is that started? i really dont want this
[08:35] <rafgas> I didn't even know what recovery mode did before now, that's pretty nice!
[08:36] <de-facto> can i savely uninstall all that gnome-software madness?
[08:36] <thomasfuston> Is it possible to turn off Unity appstarting shortcuts ? (super+number), i want to use (super+number) for switching virtual desktops
[08:40] <Mikerhinos> Hi all, am I the only one with problems with apt-get update since today's update ? It just freezes while updating sources-list, tried from a different server and same problem.
[08:42] <tjingboem> yes - it is choking here too
[08:42] <k1l>  see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[08:42] <k1l> Mikerhinos: ^
[08:42] <tjingboem> but then it continues
[08:44] <Mikerhinos> Ok I disabled the backports, just have to reboot to close all running zombies in memory and try to update lol, brb
[08:45] <de-facto> ok i just removed /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-software-service.desktop hmm maybe that nuked it (hopefully)
[08:46] <Guest62783> when i am gpoing to update it is showing  " ask cannot be monitored or controlled
[08:46] <Guest62783> The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[08:46] <Guest62783> task cannot
[08:46] <Guest62783> what to do
[08:47] <Guest62783> It seems that the daemon died.
[08:47] <Guest62783> what to do
[08:47] <Mikerhinos> Ok seems that it will do the job until it's fixed :) thx all
[08:47] <Guest62783> Task cannot be monitored or controlled      ------ i am getting this massage
[08:48] <Guest62783> The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[08:48] <Guest62783> what to do about update
[08:49] <Mikerhinos> If you can't update, disable the backports in update list
[08:49] <k1l> Guest62783: what ubuntu, what program?
[08:49] <Guest62783> ubuntu 16.04
[08:50] <Guest62783> programme updater
[08:50] <Guest62783> package manager also not launching
[08:51] <k1l>  see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[08:56] <Guest62783> may something be done in terminal
[08:57] <Guest62783> for that issuer?
[08:57] <Guest62783> issue
[09:01] <stratos> how do you disable backports when "software updater" is hanging?
[09:02] <ducasse> stratos: edit sources.list manually.
[09:02] <k1l> stratos: open system settings :  software and updates.
[09:03] <k1l> stratos: and dont press "reload sources" when closing the systemsettings
[09:03] <de-facto> why does update manager hang there, doing nothing, blocking dpkg lock, when a repo is empty? all files are there on their server, just they are empty (because no packages yet)
[09:03] <stratos> ok tnx
[09:04] <nbusrone> how do I disable screensaver for certain application running at background ? like chrome browser watching youtube ?
[09:04] <nbusrone> how do I limit my network bandwidth ?
[09:05] <hateball> nbusrone: do you want to limit it by lowering the throughput?
[09:06] <hateball> nbusrone: iirc if you set it to fullscreen it should send that hint to the WM and disable screensaver
[09:08] <nbusrone> hateball : For limiting , lowering the throughput of upload speed and download speed .
[09:08] <de-facto> tc or wondershaper?
[09:09] <mcphail> k1l: do we need that appstream bug in the /topic? I've just been hit with it as well
[09:09] <nbusrone> hateball : Any application would do it ? for ubuntu 14.04 since ADSL download drastically when upload reach the max.
[09:09] <hateball> nbusrone: try de-facto's suggestion. be aware they are not perfect
[09:10] <Wug> Hey, does anyone know of a way I can coerce an aufs filesystem to be mounted after the disks that comprise it? It's not coming up at boot (presumably because the disks it depends on aren't there yet)
[09:11] <Wug> I've googled around a bit and it looks like there are nice solutions for arch linux but not ubuntu
[09:11] <nbusrone> hateball :Screen saver like 10 min turn off monitor : Nope  , I tried with youtube at chrome with HTML5 it doesn't work.I tested with VM running windows Guest and Fullscreen still getting screen turn off.The only option I can do is to set the timer to "Never" and i need to setback once I quit
[09:11] <mcphail> Wug: entries in /etc/fstab should be mounted in order
[09:11] <Wug> mcphail: All of the reading I've done indicates that this is not the case
[09:12] <de-facto> nbusrone there is also trickle (apart from tc and wondershaper), actually there are quite a lot of approaches to this, though i cant speak of having experience with any of them
[09:12] <hateball> nbusrone: Hmmm, then I don't quite know. I do not use Unity myself
[09:12] <Wug> plus, if they were, it would be working
[09:12] <Wug> (aufs is listed after the others)
[09:12] <mcphail> Wug: read "man fstab" - there in the 1st paragraph
[09:13] <Wug> yes it is
[09:13] <Wug> The order of records in  fstab  is  important  because  fsck(8), mount(8), and umount(8) sequentially iterate through fstab doing their thing, though at boot time mountall(8)
[09:13] <Wug>  may process the file out-of-order when it believes it is safe to do so.
[09:14] <mcphail> Wug: mine doesn't say that. Is that a 14.04 thing?
[09:14] <Wug> no idea. but I found a bug report about this behavior of mountall from 2009
[09:14] <Wug> what version are you running? 16.04?
[09:14] <nbusrone> de-facto : checking now tc and wondershaper thanks :)
[09:15] <mcphail> Wug: yes. Mountall is an upstart thiong so 14.04
[09:15] <mcphail> Wug: If you're on 14.04, I wonder if that is your problem?
[09:15] <marus> any one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot
[09:15] <Wug> has 16.04 transitioned away from upstart?
[09:16] <mcphail> Wug: yes - systemd
[09:16] <de-facto> nbusrone i think i tried once that trickle, it worked as far as i remember, but i dont remember any details actually
[09:17] <Wug> the arch linux thing i read indicated that you can manually manage mount order (even at boot), and arch uses systemd
[09:17] <Wug> I guess I'll just upgrade sometime, thanks
[09:17] <mcphail> Wug: there must be a way to poke mountall to do its job properly
[09:19] <nbusrone> de-facto : will report back after I tried,  find the GUI version too :)
[09:20] <de-facto> nbusrone nice, try it and tell us how it worked for you :)
[09:21] <davedavidson> Hi guys, has anyone installed Rstudio Server on Ubuntu here?
[09:27] <jonky> hi
[09:28] <davedavidson> wait, did you install it?
[09:29] <jonky> I'm guessing im not the first person to ask about appstream today. I've seen a couple workarounds.  is there a preferred workaround?
[09:29] <k1l>  see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[09:30] <jonky> thanks.  is that a better method than this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/774986/appstreamcli-is-cooking-my-laptop-what-is-it-ubuntu-16-04
[09:30] <jonky> ?
[09:31] <arkus> Yo la room :)
[09:31] <arkus> J'ai un étrange doute de conception....
[09:31] <arkus> Sue une association (au sens merise du terme) entre deux tables, comprenant un attribut...
[09:31] <somsip> !fr | arkus
[09:32] <arkus> Oups désolé ;)
[09:32] <k1l> jonky: well. yes. it will give you a working system until the fixed package is tested and then shipped
[09:32] <jonky> k1l, thanks again
[09:32] <brunch875> uh... dpkg lock
[09:33] <marus> any one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot
[09:33] <jonky> brunch875, if that's a question, scroll up and see k1l's suggestion to me
[09:35] <brunch875> WELP, can't open system settings
[09:35] <brunch875> it's the first time I experience something like this
[09:36] <brunch875> is /usr/bin/system-settings what launches it?
[09:37] <marus> !nic
[09:37] <brunch875> brunch@dmichoke:~$ system-settings
[09:37] <brunch875> Could not initialize GLX
[09:37] <brunch875> Aborted (core dumped)
[09:37] <k1l> brunch875: that is not the desktop system settings.
[09:38] <brunch875> ah no, that's the QML thing for ubuntu touch
[09:38] <brunch875> that didn't crash before though
[09:38] <k1l> brunch875: what about you just click in the upper right and choose system settings?
[09:38] <brunch875> it happens nothing :D
[09:38] <brunch875> that's why I'm trying to launch from cli
[09:38] <brunch875> to see stderrr
[09:39] <k1l> brunch875: unity-control-center
[09:41] <brunch875> sec, running out of battery
[09:46] <brunch875> brunch@dmichoke:~$ unity-control-center
[09:46] <brunch875> (unity-control-center:11812): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[09:46] <brunch875> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:46] <brunch875> daayum! What should I do to report this as bug?
[09:47] <saurabh_> I'm using 14.04.4 (kernel 3.13_86) on a x86_64 bit laptop
[09:47] <saurabh_> My wifi card is ralink rt3290. I works great. But when I resume from suspend, It disables and complains about "The hardware switch being turned off"
[09:48] <saurabh_> When I try the hardware switch nothing happens. I have to reboot to get back my wifi.
[09:48] <marus> any one can help to get wlan0 name back, i've changed /etc/default/grub and reboot
[09:48] <saurabh_> so,I don't suspend that often
[09:48] <saurabh_> i tried everything from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218043
[09:49] <saurabh_> still problem persists
[09:50] <Igor_> Hi, I need to replace XP with Ubuntu on a very old pc with a 1GB of ram. It's working fine, but it is randomly freezing with a lines on the screen. Then, I need to restart whole PC. Can someone help me with that?
[09:52] <saurabh_> Igor_, did you upgrade your kernel?
[09:52] <Igor_> No, it's a fresh iso from the website. It's same with every other distribution
[09:53] <saurabh_> Igor_, oh, I guess your old pc has a damaged harddisk
[09:53] <Igor_> XP is working fine
[09:53] <saurabh_> oh then we can rule that out
[09:54] <saurabh_> are any graphics drivers buggy
[09:57] <Igor_> @saurabh How can i check that?
[09:59] <yossarianuk> Is apt  still broken ?
[09:59] <sweb> after apt-get update freez on // Fetched 36.3 MB in 2min 11s (276 kB/s)
[10:00] <sweb> ow it's apt-get broken global problem ?
[10:00] <yossarianuk> noticed last night - on 2 deifferent machines (that were both fine earlier in the day)
[10:00] <yossarianuk> any workaround ?
[10:02] <yossarianuk> according to -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/774918/apt-get-is-stuck-at-fetched-xxkb-in-xxsec
[10:02] <yossarianuk> You have to manually fix it by downloading appstream packages ....
[10:02] <yossarianuk> What about the people who do not know that ?
[10:02] <yossarianuk> i.e - will it be fixed without intervention ?
[10:02] <somsip> yossarianuk: they come here and ask, or what for the release of the fix
[10:03] <somsip> *wait
[10:03] <yossarianuk> i.e it will be fixed on the server end ?
[10:03] <fif> hey
[10:03] <yossarianuk> 'most' users probably don't know about this room (many will be have used IRC)
[10:04] <somsip> yossarianuk: the ticket is marked as fix release or prepared. I'll get the link from earlier
[10:04] <fugface> yossarianuk: disabling xenial-backports and NOT reloading the package list works
[10:04] <somsip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/
[10:04] <yossarianuk> somsip: cheers
[10:04] <somsip> yossarianuk: np. It's a nasty one but it looks like it's been caught asap
[10:04] <fif> I need some help regarding developing in Java, but #Java is invite only, so I wanted to ask for help in #help which redirect to #freenode and I can't send messages in #freenode, so any help?
[10:05] <somsip> !register | fif
[10:05] <fif> ?
[10:05] <fif> Im not interesting in registering
[10:06] <fif> just want to ask some programming related question
[10:06] <yossarianuk> fif: well it sounds like that room requires you to register
[10:06] <yossarianuk> #centos room also does
[10:07] <yossarianuk> so either register or do not ask a question in that room.
[10:08] <fif> that's my point, I want to be polite and ask my question in the appropriate room
[10:08] <fif> but I don't want to register
[10:10] <yossarianuk> fif: well if that room mandates you need to register you have no choice if you want to talk in that room
[10:20] <Hanumaan> I try to do update and upgrade in 14.04 get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16518507/ .. I mostly think because of the some 3rd party repos ..
[10:21] <somsip> fif: if you want to get into #Java you need to register. Simple as that
[10:22] <k1l> Hanumaan: did you change python stuff on your system?
[10:24] <yossarianuk> apt is presently broken which could not be helping
[10:24] <Hanumaan> k1l, I have done some changes with python a month ago but after that I have done couple of updates and had no problems ..  seems like python problem .. how can you clear this problem?
[10:25] <k1l> yossarianuk:   see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[10:25] <k1l> Hanumaan: a lot of system stuff is running on python. so changes might break them, like apt.
[10:26] <yossarianuk> k1l: cheers - if I wait will the issue be resolved without intervention ?
[10:27] <yossarianuk> I don't mind doing  a fix - I worry about 'the masses' though.
[10:27] <k1l> yossarianuk: i doubt you will get the updated package when updates dont work.
[10:27] <brunch875> uh oh, this happens to me too
[10:27] <brunch875> should I kill appstreamcli or will I break something?
[10:27] <Hanumaan> k1l, oh .. thats a bit big thing .. is there way to repair?
[10:27] <somsip> k1l: you're an op? Any chance of a factoid for this?
[10:27] <yossarianuk> won't there be a load of people with broken systems with no idea how to fix it.
[10:28] <somsip> yossarianuk: we had this conversation already
[10:28] <k1l> yossarianuk: yes. but i wasnt triggered by that issue on my system. so it seems not everyone is
[10:30] <yossarianuk> I just managed to do 4 udates - I cancelled 'apt-get update' - upgrade found 4 updates (none relating to apt/dpkg/appstream)
[10:30] <k1l> yossarianuk: seems like it needs some 3rd party repos to get triggered
[10:30] <yossarianuk> backports isn't 3rd party its enabled by default on 16.04
[10:32] <yossarianuk> the fact i maanged to get updates was this just due to the fcat I had them available before the bug ? rather than been found after the bug hit
[10:32] <yossarianuk> *fact*
[10:33] <k1l> yossarianuk: see the bug and the linked bugs to get the technical details if you are interested.
[10:39] <TsakNorris> how to adjust services with ubuntu? Because long time ago it was services....then systemctl...so what is the latest?
[10:39] <k1l> TsakNorris: what ubuntu exactly?
[10:41] <TsakNorris> k1l: well latest?
[10:41] <k1l> TsakNorris: "lsb_release -d" details matter
[10:45] <brunch875> 2
[10:48] <triss> hey all. The fans in my laptop are running really loud. Could anyone help me understand what's causing/fix the problem?
[10:48] <triss> My laptop is whisper quiet under Windows
[10:48] <triss> I've tried several answers from askubuntu but to no avail.
[10:49] <AbsurdTech> I'm not sure if I think Ubuntu would cause it, but you could look at it from a physical perspective
[10:49] <AbsurdTech> Dust for sure
[10:50] <triss> no. my laptop runs really quiet when i boot to windows.
[10:50] <triss> and it's pretty new and in a clean environment.
[10:51] <AbsurdTech> triss: have you seen this thread yet? http://askubuntu.com/questions/516067/persistent-high-fan-speed-ubuntu-14-04/537538#537538
[10:52] <triss> thanks AbsurdTech, I did take a look... I'll double check all is set up ok.
[10:56] <bratner> Hi! i'm on 16.04, the gui updater got stuck so i killed it. Now i'm running after lockfiles. Is there a way to force all locks cleard and re-download all lists?
[10:56] <stratos> bratner: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/65
[10:57] <Tommy2> hey, how do you put /var/run & /var/lock into TMPFS?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tmpfs
[10:57] <k1l> yossarianuk:   see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[10:57] <Tommy2> it will freeze, if you do it with /etc/fstab/
[10:58] <k1l> bratner: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[10:58] <Tommy2> the arch wiki, alludes to using SYMLINK?
[10:58] <AlexQ> Hi. How can I make a process run after my _ALREADY_ running job finishes? I've got ffmpeg doing some heavy transcoding, but I'd like to run a few more files after this job finishes, without having to wait till it finishes to manually run a sequence.
[10:59] <k1l> AlexQ: command1 && command2&& command3
[10:59] <k1l> that will make them run when the first finished with no error
[10:59] <AlexQ> It's already running, like right now.
[11:00] <triss> AbsurdTech, it's made no difference I'm afraid....
[11:00] <triss> how would I ascertain if the problem is with my graphics card or CPU fans?
[11:01] <triss> is there a tool that will tell me which of them is running loud?
[11:01] <sweb> apt-get has an error ubuntu 16.04 !!! freez on apt-get update // Fetched 94.5 kB in 4s (21.4 kB/s)
[11:01] <AlexQ> triss: You can check temps with sensors
[11:01] <AlexQ> cmd
[11:01] <k1l> sweb: see if this helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712/comments/60
[11:01] <AbsurdTech> triss: I've heard of this package called TLP before thats mainly used for power saving and such but can control fan speeds
[11:02] <sweb> k1l: 503 0_o seems be entire ubuntu world have problem :D
[11:02] <bratner> AlexQ, you can run grep on the process id in a loop with sleep , when the process id is not there break the loop and do whatever.
[11:02] <triss> thanks AlexQ, AbsurdTech i'll take a look.
[11:03] <AlexQ> bratner: So no easier way probably?
[11:04] <bratner> AlexQ, that is why bash scripting so useful. Pretty easy as well.
[11:06] <AlexQ> bratner: No nicer way to check if a process of a PID is running than grepping ps ?
[11:06] <triss> AlexQ, running sensors-detect has highlighted that I might want to install coretemp module
[11:07] <bratner> AlexQ,  stat /proc/$PID and see the return code ?
[11:07] <triss> is it usually safe to let it install this?
[11:07] <triss> you don't know if its something already built in to the kernel do you?
[11:07] <AlexQ> I have no idea, triss. For instance, on my laptop sensors only return CPU temps, unfortunately.
[11:07] <ubu> people, why is the internet community trashing ubuntu? everything i watch about ubuntu is negative, what is going on?
[11:08] <k1l> ubu: better ask that in the offtopic channel :)
[11:08] <k1l> !ot | ubu
[11:08] <triss> ok... I'll give it a try anyway. here goes......
[11:08] <ubu> thanks k1l
[11:08] <Guest72802> Sorry I didn't register the major Nick in time I am new to IRC.
[11:09] <ubu> k1l: cannot join  :-/
[11:09] <th34lch3m1st> hi, first reboot after 16.04 installation, what's this blue screen (Perform MOK management) with options (continue boot/change secure boot state/enroll key from disk/enroll hash from disk)?
[11:10] <k1l> ubu: you need to register to freenode "/msg ubottu !register" will help you
[11:10] <th34lch3m1st> I should do something? I have selected "install third parts drivers"/turn off secure boot/secure boot password/etc etc at installation time. I'm supposed to disable secure boot in this screen, or what else?
[11:11] <yossarianuk> k1|: cheers
[11:13] <gahan> how do I force cancelling of activity in landscape? 'Add hardware' is hanging on 'Add jujue machine...' for 24 hours now.
[11:15] <triss> ok guys does this look normal to you chaps? I think this indicates that everything is running within safe ranges doesn't it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16518995/
[11:16] <bratner> AlexQ, here is a reference for you http://pastebin.com/9JfnGvRy
[11:16] <YankDownUnder> triss, all good
[11:17] <AlexQ> thanks bratner, been doing my own in the meantime, but that seems nicer :)
[11:18] <bratner> AlexQ, yeah, i have mislead you a bit. why the hell would you need to do a stat if you are in a script?
[11:19] <AlexQ> bratner: Honestly, I don't even know what stat is, need to check
[11:20] <bratner> AlexQ, stat is a command line utility (named after C function) that can tell you stuff about a file, like size and permissions, and whether it is a file/dir/socket...
[11:20] <AlexQ> thx
[11:23] <triss> thanks YankDownUnder
[11:23] <YankDownUnder> tries, Cheers mate.
[11:23] <triss> so I still wonder why my fan is running so loud....
[11:24] <triss> what should I check next?
[11:24] <mcphail> triss: Dell laptop?
[11:24] <triss> no HP Envy...
[11:24] <mcphail> triss: OK, sorry - no experience of that
[11:25] <AlexQ> triss: So that's only on Ubuntu then?
[11:25] <AlexQ> triss: The issue?
[11:25] <AlexQ> bartner: So I can use that like that: "awaitend 1234; do stuff;" ?
[11:25] <triss> yes. Under Windows my machine is quite as a mouse.
[11:26] <triss> i think the battery life is a lot longer too.
[11:26] <AlexQ> Maybe throttling doesn't work properly
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> tries, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> triss, you should check, under Windows - what the temps are - and then configure Ubuntu to be exactly the same...configure your sensors to reflect the same temps...
[11:27] <triss> ah thanks YankDownUnder - so I might have to set safe temperatures manually?
[11:27] <AlexQ> triss: But you managed to check the temps? I.e. if indeed everything is cold, but the fan is still going like crazy?
[11:28] <EriC^^> hi after suspending i get a password lock followed by another password lock(the standard one), 16.04 known bug/any fixes?
[11:28] <triss> AlexQ, yes that is the case
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> triss, Yes...copy the same info that you find under Winders...easy done.
[11:29] <triss> YankDownUnder, do you know where I'd find info under Windows?
[11:30] <triss> Windows 10 to be specific
[11:30] <Afshaal> Hey all, is it safe to update libnl and network manager stuff yet?
[11:30] <Afshaal> Anyone know if that bug kill network manager has been fixed yet?
[11:30] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Check what happens if you disable screen lock after screen off maybe?
[11:30] <EriC^^> what do you mean by screen off?
[11:31] <EriC^^> if i lock the screen normally with ctrl+alt+l it works right
[11:31] <dryblow> Hi there, do someone has loops witch fetching while repository updates?
[11:31] <dryblow> with*
[11:31] <EriC^^> when i suspend i get another lightdm-locker type of screen for the password then the standard one
[11:31] <OerHeks> Afshaal, what bug exactly?
[11:31] <YankDownUnder> triss, Find yourself any number of "fan" or "temperature" related FREE software packages...you might want to look on "http://fileforum.betanews.com" -> heaps of free stuff there...easy enough...just spend a little time, research your shit, and you're all good...easy done
[11:31] <Afshaal> If I perform an update to my libnl libraries now, is it going to kill my internet again?
[11:32] <codfection> why I cant install openjdk version 6?
[11:32] <Afshaal> There has been a bug with libnl since January or so and it somehow made it into the stable repositories a few weeks ago
[11:32] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519219/
[11:32] <codfection> any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:32] <triss> ok thanks YankDownUnder, one issue - sudo pwmconfig tells me: " /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[11:32] <triss> Does this mean fancontrol isn't likely to work with my system?
[11:32] <Afshaal> I had to remove and reinstall an older libnl package in order to make Network Manager and my whole internet support work again
[11:32] <k1l> codfection: details matter: what ubuntu version is that exactly?
[11:33] <Afshaal> Just wonder if that bug has been dealt with yet
[11:33] <codfection> 16.04 k1l
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> tries, Have you installed "lm-sensors" - I shall assume? If not, do so...reboot...find the info from Windows...then config Ubuntu.
[11:33] <halpmeplz> is there any way to make the scrollbars in 16.04 thicker, they're so thin and require alot of precision to grab
[11:33] <k1l> codfection: there is no openjdk-6-jdk in 16.04
[11:33] <codfection> k1l, but I want it :(
[11:33] <k1l> codfection: use 8 or 9
[11:33] <triss> yes I installed lm-sensors and it added coretemp module
[11:34] <codfection> k1l, so I need to install 14.04 just for that? any other workaround?
[11:34] <codfection> I need 6 for testing purposed...
[11:34] <triss> so its that module that will control fan speed?
[11:34] <codfection> purposes*
[11:35] <YankDownUnder> triss, "fancontrol" package
[11:35] <ducasse> codfection: install it in vm/container.
[11:35] <triss> ok thanks I'll have a go
[11:35] <k1l> codfection: no. dont use software that depends on that old unmaintained software
[11:35] <EriC^^> AlexQ: pm-suspend works fine, actually doesn't ask for a password when turning back on, systemctl suspend asks for 2 passes
[11:35] <codfection> ducasse, vm takes resources especially while running emulator of android..
[11:36] <codfection> k1l, is it possible to put some old mirror of 14.04 and install openjdk 6?
[11:36] <k1l> codfection: no
[11:37] <baraka> anyone here installed R?
[11:38] <stratos> 14.04 is openjdk 7
[11:38] <NightHwk> Does anyone know how to fix network problem. I was on ubuntu 15.10 and could access my share drive fine on anther computer but once I upgraded to 16.10 it won't take the network credientals
[11:38] <codfection> stratos, the book I am reading says install openjdk
[11:38] <codfection> 6
[11:38] <codfection> coz later ones doesnt work with some specific tools
[11:38] <k1l> codfection: its deprecated
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> NightHwk: #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <Tommy2> hEllo  , how do you make a program stop asking for Password all the time?
[11:39] <codfection> k1l, do you prefer openjdk or oracle java
[11:39] <EriC^^> Tommy2: which program?
[11:39] <baraka> R on a chromebook*
[11:39] <Tommy2> e.g. for Peerguardian   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerGuardian EriC^^
[11:39] <k1l> baraka: chromebook is ARM. so you will need arm builds
[11:40] <baraka> k1l so I did install ARM Rstudio server and it works fine, but the version is way off
[11:40] <Tommy2> EriC^^, on Windows  , it doesnt ask for password everytime you whitelist a site.  but it does for Linux,-- how do you turn that off>?
[11:40] <k1l> baraka: talk to r studio about that
[11:41] <baraka> k1l thing is the problem's with the version of R more than Rstudio itself
[11:41] <vijaikumar> baraka: a simpler way to do it would be using anaconda python distribution
[11:41] <baraka> on a chromebook?
[11:41] <EriC^^> Tommy2: no idea
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:41] <k1l> baraka: what exactly is the issue now?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> Tommy2: if something asks a password, there's a reason for it
[11:42] <halpmeplz> https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable
[11:42] <Tommy2> lotuspsychje, EriC^^  the one method i've used before, (but doesnt seem to work with PeerG, is :  sudo usermod -a -G <PROGRAM> <USERNAME>
[11:43] <Tommy2> or GUI version:  "Settings > Users & Groups." (Put user into vlock group)
[11:43] <stratos> @codfection: you can install oracle jdk 6 from their tar.gz dist
[11:44] <Tommy2> so why isnt that working for PeerG,  (it worked for VLOCK, which is a screenlock program)
[11:44] <codfection> stratos, would that go along with android studio?
[11:45] <stratos> @codfection: it works with intellij in general - but i cant say with the android version of it
[11:45] <codfection> stratos, thanks alot man
[11:45] <codfection> it would be same as apt get install openjdk right?
[11:45] <triss> YankDownUnder, - it looks to me like fancontrol uses pwmconfig to set fan speeds...
[11:46] <stratos> @codfection: there a post on installing oracle jdk on ubuntu here, but download jdk 6 instead of 8 https://sorenpoulsen.com/install-oracles-java-development-kit-on-ubuntu
[11:46] <feixu> firefox can't translate the javascript with document.write("<table>");
[11:46] <feixu> why ?
[11:46] <triss> but I'm told there are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed....
[11:46] <baraka> k1l I'm trying to install a version of r beyond 3.0.2 and it's not happening
[11:46] <feixu> thanks
[11:46] <triss> are we sure this is the way to fix things?
[11:46] <k1l> !details | baraka
[11:47] <YankDownUnder> tries, Did you read the page I sent you? Here it is again... http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[11:47] <codfection> thanks stratos
[11:48] <codfection> it has more cocnfiguration.. if I install version 8 or 9 it does java home automatically
[11:48] <codfection> using apt get
[11:48] <codfection> such as JAVA_HOME
[11:48] <triss> yes... I've run lm-sensors. pwmconfig fails to find any pwm capable sensors
[11:48] <akik> o
[11:48] <baraka> k1l here is the output of my command: https://bpaste.net/show/f70177a9d477
[11:48] <OerHeks> codfection, android studio with openjdk 6?? good luck trying that.
[11:49] <baraka> but when i run an apt-cache policy r-base that version shows
[11:49] <codfection> OerHeks, which one should I use
[11:49] <OerHeks> on 16.04?
[11:49] <codfection> yes
[11:49] <k1l> baraka: what ubuntu is it?
[11:49] <triss> I had a read of the man page for fancontrol.... it implies all the management happens through pwmconfig - which isn't available on my machine.
[11:49] <OerHeks> openjdk 8
[11:49] <baraka> k1l Ubuntu 14.04 - through crouton, on a chromebook
[11:49] <codfection> or oracle ?
[11:50] <codfection> openjdk or oracle ? OerHeks
[11:50] <k1l> baraka: there is no r-base 3.2 in the repos for 14.04
[11:50] <OerHeks> codfection, we advise openjdk.
[11:50] <codfection> cool
[11:50] <k1l> baraka: so i guess you added a PPA? but ppas are not for ARM
[11:50] <codfection> I will go for that
[11:50] <codfection> thanks OerHeks
[11:50] <baraka> k1l  I tried that but it didn't work
[11:50] <YankDownUnder> triss, Did you read the entire page and all the alternatives - and go through all the steps?
[11:51] <k1l> baraka: please show the output of "apt-cache policy r-base"
[11:51] <k1l> baraka: its very hard to get informations from you, btw
[11:51] <baraka> k1l I'm sorry - just a moment
[11:52] <triss> yes... I haven't looked at Dell/ThinkPad specific stuff.
[11:53] <triss> and the genric answer talking about pwmconfig won't work on my system.
[11:54] <baraka> k1l https://bpaste.net/show/2671dfd12ef6
[11:55] <k1l> baraka: ok. so make sure your 3rd party repos work for ARM. which i bet they dont
[11:55] <triss> as pwmconfig reports: "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[11:55] <baraka> k1l - I don't think so
[11:57] <TJ-> triss: I will tire folks out with this but I suspect the system has a manufacturer-installed firmware bug in its ACPI DSDT, which only activates all power functionality if it detects a Windows OS running
[11:57] <TJ-> triss: ACPI is *the* way the firmware informs the OS about all the platform-specific bits including thermal, device enablement, etc.
[11:59] <triss> thanks TJ-
[11:59] <triss> I just found info about a acpi_enforce_resources=lax flag for GRUB....
[12:00] <triss> Do you think that's worth a fiddle with? https://iandw.net/2014/10/12/fancontrol-under-ubuntu-14-04-resolving-usrsbinpwmconfig-there-are-no-pwm-capable-sensor-modules-installed/
[12:00] <TJ-> triss: it's probably a lot more involved than that, I can give you my 'standard' fix for these things if you want to try it
[12:00] <YankDownUnder> From what I have experienced in the past years (like since before linux was linux)...in most instances, folks kinda forget to check something - some little thing...or they get stuck into something without taking a breather and having a looksee around to see if there might be alternatives to a particular resolution...
[12:00] <YankDownUnder> :)
[12:00] <triss> I'd love to have a look. The fans are really distracting
[12:01] <TJ-> triss: which Ubuntu release is that?
[12:01] <triss> 16.04
[12:01] <triss> YankDownUnder, 21 years linux experience here too.
[12:01] <TJ-> triss: OK, lets first discover which Windows versions the ACPI recognises: "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"
[12:02] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519649/
[12:02] <wander_> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&:)&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
[12:02] <TJ-> triss: we're going to identify the 'latest' which usually causes the most ACPI functionality to be enabled
[12:02] <codfection> having error while running android studio on 16.04
[12:02] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519649/
[12:02] <YankDownUnder> triss, so, that being said, how many times have you "overlooked" something that was actually the resolution to the issue, and spent hours and hours banging your head against the wall...hmm? :) All is good...time and patience...time and patience...those are the best tools...
[12:03] <wander_> is 16.04 already out?
[12:03] <triss> YankDownUnder, many many times. the solution isn't on that page for me
[12:03] <stratos> @codfection: did you install JDK or JRE?
[12:03] <codfection> JDK 8
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> !releasenotes | wander_
[12:03] <codfection> by using apt-get install command
[12:03] <wander_> Thanks!!!
[12:04] <stratos> @codfection: so you chose "sudo apt-get install default-jdk"?
[12:04] <wander_> Hope the new release works better with my pentium 6th gen
[12:04] <YankDownUnder> triss, therefore, the answer lies somewhere else...such as possibly the lm-sensors page...or search through Google groups...along with the obvious Ubuntu and related forums...(and Debian forums)...and the i8 related posts and etc...(i8 being the sensor shit for Dell's)...the answer is out there...somewhere...
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> wander_: try a liveusb and see for yourself
[12:05] <codfection> stratos, sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre
[12:05] <triss> TD- here's the info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519682/
[12:05] <stratos> @codfection: your should get the JDK not the JRE
[12:05] <TJ-> triss: so "Windows 2013" looks to be the one to try
[12:06] <stratos> JDK = development kit with the compiler, JRE only the runtime
[12:06] <codfection> stratos, so bro should I remove jre or just install jdk on top of it?
[12:06] <TJ-> triss: "sudo sed -i 's/^\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)"/\1 acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2013\\" "/' /etc/default/grub "
[12:06] <stratos> i would remove it
[12:06] <wander_> -098712q3wr5t u76yp-[
[12:06] <stratos> JDK include a JRE too
[12:06] <TJ-> triss: then check the new options are there with "grep acpi_osi /etc/default/grub"
[12:07] <codfection> how to remove properly
[12:07] <codfection> apt-get remove ?
[12:07] <stratos> yes
[12:07] <TJ-> codfection: No!
[12:07] <wander_> hELP THE DD COMMAND REMOVING MY HARD DRIVE CONTENTS HO WCAN I STIP IT
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> wander_: no caps please
[12:08] <TJ-> codfection: JDK depends on JRE, so if you install the JDK you'll just reinstall the JRE... just install the JDK which will add the additional bits
[12:08] <stratos> I dont think you have dependencies on open jre 8 if you just onstalled it explicitly
[12:08] <auronandace> wander_: ctrl+c
[12:08] <icey> wander_: ctrl-c will stop it
[12:08] <triss> TJ- think I had a bit too much in my grub config for that sed to work
[12:08] <wander_> Sorry hw do i stop ssh someone into my pc and he is removing things
[12:08] <wander_> local network
[12:08] <TJ-> stratos: I meant if the user wants -jdk -jdk "Depends:" on the -jre
[12:08] <icey> unfortunately, it may be too late; I did that on 16.04 release day and it took about 10 minutes for the computer to crash, even after stopping the dd after about 4 MB of writes
[12:08] <TJ-> triss: can you "pastebinit /etc/default/grub" ?
[12:09] <triss> here's greps output:
[12:09] <triss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16519746/
[12:09] <codfection> stratos, and TJ. sorry I am quite confused. to remove or not. hehe
[12:09] <triss> I think I need to remove the acpi_osi=!Windows 2012 first
[12:09] <triss> what exactly should my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* options be?
[12:10] <stratos> if you remove it then the JDK may reinstall it as a dependency -- no problem
[12:11] <TJ-> triss: ahhh, can you manually remove the acpi_osi entry for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ? that won't help; in fact that wouldn't have had any effect anyhow
[12:11] <TJ-> triss: because there's a space in the string it has to be surrounded by double-quotes when the kernel sees it, which is why you'll see my additional has \" useed inside the variable assignment string
[12:14] <ginabot> Can anyone help me install wifislax on Ubuntu 16
[12:14] <TJ-> triss: once you've made that change you can do "sudo update-grub" which writes it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and do a reboot and see if the fan gets better behaved, and if you can use pwmcontrol etc. Once you reboot ensure the kernel has the option on its command-line with "cat /proc/cmdline" *and* it took with "dmesg | grep _OSI" which should report ACPI: Added _OSI(Windows 2013)
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> ginabot: doesnt seem like its in the repos
[12:15] <ginabot> http://wifislax.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> ginabot: only ubuntu support here sorry
[12:16] <ginabot> I see ok
[12:18] <_ugg> H guys... Whats the best way to manage & sync and iPod classic on Ubuntu ??
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !ipod | _ugg
[12:19] <_ugg> Thank you very much for the link. Going to check it out now :)
[12:23] <ice__> hi
[12:26] <codfection> ok I have sucessfully installed android studio on ubuntu but I am getting this error. : IllegalArgumentException: button doesn't exist 0
[12:26] <rory> I have a question about logrotate. If I have two "overlapping" configs as shown in this paste, what will the behaviour be for foo.log? http://pastebin.com/raw/XKDPcduN
[12:26] <triss> TJ- great I'll give this a try... would you mind spelling out exactly what should be in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX? I'm being a little slow today
[12:27] <_ugg> Also guys I plan on wiping osx from a 2009 standard macbook and installing Ubuntu. Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu gnome on a mac system ??
[12:27] <triss> sed + fact I already had some stuff set has lleft it in this mess:
[12:27] <triss> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" "
[12:28] <Mr_Red> hi
[12:28] <Mr_Red> wtf? o.o
[12:30] <EriC^^> !mac | _ugg
[12:30] <TJ-> triss: that's exactly correct, that's what my 'sed' line put in
[12:30] <_ugg> Thanks again :) Taking a look at that llink now too :)
[12:31] <triss> oh ok! cheers man. I'm crossing my fingers and toes now. time for a reboot.
[12:31] <TJ-> triss: "sudo update-grub" and give it a test
[12:32] <MrKeuner> hi everyone, I have three Ubuntu boxes at home. when I ssh into them I can see that they require a restart when necessary. I don't want to reboot from remote and delay it. But when i am on the machine with the gnomeshell and I don't see any icons/warnings to reminde me that I shoudl reboot. How do you people handle that?
[12:33] <MrKeuner> using some gnomeshell extension? A script to touch a file on Desktop maybe? Anything else?
[12:34] <stratos> @codfection: maybe you should try this ppa https://paolorotolo.github.io/android-studio/
[12:34] <Mr_Red> no
[12:36] <codfection> stratos, but I installed
[12:36] <codfection> using android studio.tar from google website
[12:36] <bsdnoob> hello
[12:37] <bsdnoob> I keep getting 502 gad gateway with apt-get
[12:37] <smokeink> hello! gvfsd-trash is consuming a lot of CPU , any idea what's causing this problem and how to fix it ? deleting ~/.local/share/Trash did not help
[12:37] <bsdnoob> yum works fine
[12:37] <bsdnoob> I am using proxy btw
[12:37] <Mr_Red> try with apt-get install -f
[12:37] <yossarianuk> apt-get upate = now fixed !
[12:37] <OerHeks> bsdnoob, join the channel of your distro, this is ubuntu support only
[12:38] <k1l> bsdnoob: ubuntu doesnt use yum.
[12:38] <Mr_Red> wjajajaja
[12:38] <bsdnoob> OerHeks, yes apt-get is the problem
[12:38] <bsdnoob> it does not works with proxy
[12:38] <Mr_Red> some people think what ubuntu = arch
[12:38] <bsdnoob> other distro happily do the job
[12:38] <k1l> bsdnoob: what output do you get with "lsb_release -d"?
[12:38] <gahan> how do I force cancelling of activity in landscape? 'Add hardware' is hanging on 'Add jujue machine...' for 24 hours now.
[12:39] <OerHeks> gahan ask in #juju ?
[12:39] <gahan> OerHeks: trying everywhere, sorry :)
[12:40] <OerHeks> gahan, best place to ask, afaik
[12:40] <bsdnoob> k1l, Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[12:40] <gahan> OerHeks: thanks
[12:41] <k1l> bsdnoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[12:41] <bsdnoob> k1l , it does not works
[12:41] <bsdnoob> I get 502 bad gateway
[12:42] <OerHeks> bsdnoob, so you followed that guide?
[12:42] <k1l> bsdnoob: i am quite sure the page i linked tells exactly what to do
[12:43] <bsdnoob> yeah kil
[12:43] <bsdnoob> My proxy is set
[12:43] <bsdnoob> but it does not works
[12:43] <bsdnoob> I have to manually download deb files from curl
[12:43] <bsdnoob> :(
[12:43] <k1l> bsdnoob: you need to set apt-get to use that proxy like mentioned in the page i linkde
[12:43] <k1l> *linked
[12:44] <bsdnoob> k1l , again
[12:44] <bsdnoob> it is set
[12:44] <k1l> how exactly?
[12:45] <bsdnoob> k1l, using env variable http_proxy
[12:45] <bsdnoob> and /etc/apt/apt.conf reads Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128";
[12:45] <k1l> does the poxy need authentification?
[12:46] <destinydriven> is it safe to re-install appstream now and should I even want to do that?
[12:46] <bsdnoob> ki1 , no
[12:46] <bsdnoob> it's a simple squid proxy
[12:46] <bsdnoob> curl works
[12:46] <bsdnoob> but not apt-get
[12:47] <k1l> bsdnoob: the export http... doesnt work since its only using your user
[12:47] <bsdnoob> yeah
[12:47] <bsdnoob> but apt.conf should work
[12:48] <bsdnoob> and it does't :(
[12:48] <triss> TJ-, my fans still run loud... the command line took.... and ACPI did add Windows 2013 but I also info about a firmware bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520253/
[12:49] <triss> pwmconfig still tells me there are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed.
[12:49] <triss> any thoughts?
[12:51] <k1l> bsdnoob: are you sure the server is up?
[12:52] <snfgf> I have user in group sudo, and line '%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL'  in sudoers. But when I do 'user$ sudo blah' it says 'user not in  sudoers file'. How come?
[12:52] <bsdnoob> k1l , yes it is up
[12:52] <bsdnoob> again curl is works fine
[12:53] <triss> oh hang on there are a lot of ACPI warnings in dmesg's output - here's the output of dmesg | grep ACPI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520337/
[12:53] <lelapin> Habbie, Were you the one who answered me yesterday, about MM keyboard ? :)
[12:54] <Habbie> lelapin, i think so
[12:54] <snfgf> I have user in group sudo, and line '%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL'  in sudoers. But when I do 'user$ sudo blah' it says 'user not in  sudoers file'. How come?
[12:55] <lelapin> Habbie, I wanted to thank you to make me find a workaround. I was too much "inside the box" and you gave me the track. :)
[12:55] <Habbie> lelapin, yay
[12:55] <de-facto> yay "sudo apt upgrade"  can make the GUI freeze for minutes, making the system totally unresponsive, good design! :(
[12:56] <morteza> Hello every one
[12:56] <snfgf> hello
[12:56] <yossarianuk> de-facto: that isn't right
[12:56] <argon__> snfgf: do sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[12:57] <abdee> ubuntu software center in xenial xerus more slower, right? Or just me experience it?
[12:57] <TJ-> triss: that's a pain! what make/model is the system? maybe you could post the entire "pastebinit <( dmesg )" output?
[12:57] <stratos> de-facto: its just consumes 100% cpu but hopefully you have more than one cpu :)
[12:57] <de-facto> nope maybe one core but not all
[12:57] <snfgf> argon__, I am not in sudoers, it says
[12:58] <snfgf> I can su -, to root, and then edit
[12:58] <argon__> snfgf: near the end of the file (along with root) put snfgf ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:59] <lelapin> Habbie, I used the keyboards setting to capture the MM keys and do "audacious --play-pause" and other stuff. ;) But Do you know if there's a way to ask audacity to go farther (a few seconds) or earlier inside the same track as it is available on keybord ? Nothing on man audacious neither on the website about this (or I wasn't able to find the info). ;/
[12:59] <de-facto> i guess its processing some triggers for 76 MB ( !!! ) fonts?! "fonts-noto-cjk", but still freezing the WHOLE GUI for that? thats bad design
[12:59] <Habbie> lelapin, don't know that, sorry
[12:59] <triss> thanks TJ- entire dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16520429/
[12:59] <snfgf> argon__, thanks
[12:59] <triss> just double checking make and model number... it's not printed on my machine anywhere!
[13:00] <lelapin> Habbie, You helped me a lot already. Thx ! See you. :)
[13:00] <argon__> snfgf: np
[13:00] <Habbie> lelapin, np :)
[13:00] <TJ-> triss: it's available via software using the DMI sub-system, hang on
[13:03] <TJ-> triss: so ACPI is reporting 3 thermal zones (sensors) but no indication of a FAN control
[13:04] <triss> oh ok... does that mean I'm unsupported for the time being?
[13:05] <TJ-> triss: line 39 of pastebin "DMI: Hewlett-Packard HP ENVY TS 15 Notebook PC/1967, BIOS F.65 11/20/2014"
[13:05] <TJ-> triss: just as a standard procedure I'd check for an updated firmware from HP
[13:06] <abdee_> my hang is back, sorry anybody have same experience with new ubuntu software center? Very slow when searching softwar
[13:06] <triss> ah ok man. I'll check. thanks for all your help with this. you're a gent.
[13:06] <Mr_Red> hi kids
[13:07] <TJ-> triss: have you retired "sudo sensors-detect" since the reboot?
[13:09] <triss> yes... it reported the I should add coretemp again... but that was already in /etc/modules
[13:10] <triss> think I'm gonna boot in to windows and check for bios updates....
[13:11] <LuckyTux> Hey, how secure is Ubuntu's build in disk encryption?
[13:11] <TJ-> LuckyTux: try cracking it :)
[13:12] <LuckyTux> hahha :D
[13:12] <LuckyTux> Is there any point having it together with truecrypt ?
[13:12] <terminal92> encryption disk can cracked?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !security | LuckyTux
[13:12] <noel> hi
[13:12] <terminal92> hi
[13:12] <noel> halolo
[13:12] <LuckyTux> hey
[13:12] <LuckyTux> ubottu thanks
[13:12] <TJ-> LuckyTux: only if you multiboot and want Windows and Linux to both have access to an encryption file-system
[13:12] <LuckyTux> TJ- thanks!
[13:13] <LuckyTux> !root
[13:13] <Guest9592> hi
[13:13] <Guest9592> hi
[13:13] <Guest9592> hi
[13:13] <Guest9592> hi
[13:13] <Guest9592> hi
[13:13] <TJ-> 5*hi=bye
[13:13] <terminal92> hi too
[13:14] <terminal92> my windows xp in vbox LOL
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: can we help you with something?
[13:15] <LuckyTux> !firewall
[13:15] <terminal92> about driver printer, I have a problem to install driver printer on ubuntu 15.10
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> !printers | terminal92
[13:16] <terminal92> is it database all printer?
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: wich printer are you trying to get to work?
[13:17] <terminal92> canon ip1300
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: is it branched by usb cable?
[13:17] <LuckyTux> !server
[13:17] <terminal92> yes, that's use usb cable
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | LuckyTux
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: ddi you try adding the printer via printer wizard?
[13:19] <terminal92> yup but doesn't work
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: old thread, but perhaps still usefull: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240338/how-to-setup-canon-inkjet-pixma-ip-1300
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | terminal92 see also the risks of adding ppa
[13:21] <terminal92> ok, I am trying... Thanks for advise :)
[13:23] <terminal92> Btw can I compile from source code about my problem?
[13:23] <terminal92> without PPA I mean
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: i think what you need is the .ppd file, so not sure it can be compiled
[13:25] <terminal92> uhm... okay
[13:25] <thomasfuston> Aloha, i have 16.04 ubuntu installed with unity, is there a way to turn of some shortcuts of unity? if i press <super>+<number> it starts applications from the left panel, is there a way to turn this off?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: perhaps you could try the cups way from here also: http://printersquestions.com/How-to-install-Canon-PIXMA-iP1300-on-Ubuntu.html
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> thomasfuston: try compizconfig-settings-manager to tweak
[13:30] <terminal92> I got this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP2200
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: yeah that might work
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: looks like the same 2200 driver from the ppa so
[13:31] <terminal92> yep, this is should work! :D
[13:33] <thomasfuston> ah ok lotuspsychje, thx alot! :)
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> terminal92: if you get it to work you might perhaps update this bug how you solved? https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/959043
[13:40] <Sagar> i am getting an error
[13:40] <Sagar> root@wolf:~# sudo systemctl status apache2 => Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied
[13:40] <Sagar> ubuntu xenial 16.06
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: upgrade or clean install? desktop or server?
[13:42] <Sagar> server
[13:43] <Sagar> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: did you upgrade from 14.04?
[13:43] <Sagar> no direct xenial
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: try the #ubuntu-server channel perhaps
[13:45] <VikingHoarder> Hey
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html
[13:45] <VikingHoarder> is it "peaceful" to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | VikingHoarder not yet
[13:46] <VikingHoarder> "peaceful" =  not many problems reported
[13:46] <SwedeMike> VikingHoarder: not yet, it will be in 16.04.1
[13:46] <VikingHoarder> oh ok
[13:46] <VikingHoarder> ty
[13:48] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: i see nothing there
[13:48] <TJ-> Sagar: is it booted in 'upstart' mode?
[13:49] <Sagar> how can i check it?
[13:51] <Sakami> I'm experiencing some problem installing xubuntu 14.04 in virtualbox.
[13:52] <Sakami> Host: debian sid | Guest: xubuntu 14.04.4
[13:52] <Sakami> After I installed the guest additions, I can't get into GUI
[13:53] <terminal92> !virtualbox
[13:53] <Mr_Red> !xchat
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Mr_Red
[13:54] <terminal92> do you installed vbox extension?
[13:54] <wenwen> ?
[13:54] <Sakami> terminal92: In fact this problem arises after I installed the guest addition. Without guest addition it's fine
[13:55] <terminal92> try command startx
[13:56] <Sakami> terminal92: I'm greeted with a black screen and unable to switch to other VTs by Host+F1-F6
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> Sakami: there is also a #vbox channel
[13:56] <triss> TJ-, sorry to keep hassling you about this but you've been a star. My BIOS was already up to date.... do you have any other thoughts?
[13:57] <xplora1a> yes just moved over to hexchat, looks pretty good.
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> triss: best to re-ask your issue to the chat, all in one line with all details once in a while
[13:58] <triss> thanks lotuspsychje - I'll pull it all together and type it up.
[13:58] <TJ-> triss: I'm afraid not; there were no additional clues in the dmesg output and you've enabled Linux to masquarade as Windows, so the only explanation is that the system's ACPI DSDT code is actually requring something else from the OS, such as a specific function call to enable things, which presumably only a system-specfic Windows driver knows about
[13:58] <TJ-> triss: the cause is, I'm 100% confident, in the ACPI activity of the firmware, since that is the bit responsible for this functionality
[13:59] <TJ-> triss: the fan is running constantly because the OS hasn't said to the ACPI DSDT "OK, I've got control now, so I can lower the speed unless temperatures increase"
[13:59] <Bent0> I've removed nginx using apt remove and then removed /etc/init.d/nginx and /etc/nginx etc by hand. Now when I apt install nginx again it installs nginx but doesn tcreate the default folders and init scripts again :s any idea?
[14:00] <triss> that's a shame... so really I'm waiting for kernel devs to build something really?
[14:00] <triss> where would one log an issue about something like this?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> triss: didnt follow the thread, but did you try a higher kernel like 4.6 yet?
[14:01] <triss> hmmm... might have a go... it's been years since i needed to build my own kernel...
[14:01] <whatas> Aye
[14:01] <whatas> I have a question for you guys
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | triss you dont need to
[14:02] <triss> thanks guys. You've all been super helpful.
[14:02] <TJ-> triss: the device isn't doing what is expected, and it would seem likely HP have written code specifically for Windows drivers and not published any info about that so Linux cannot do anything
[14:02] <whatas> SO i had 14.04 LTS and i updated to 16.04 and it came up as a console
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | whatas
[14:02] <TJ-> triss: you could try hammering HP support until you get to someone that really knows, in 3rd level support maybe!
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> whatas: its not recommended yet
[14:03] <whatas> Ok yeah
[14:03] <whatas> I just flashed my drive
[14:03] <whatas> and reinstalled windows
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> whatas: try a clean install if you cant wait?
[14:03] <whatas> Ill wait
[14:04] <whatas> Thanks guys!
[14:04] <whatas> Take care
[14:05] <triss> TJ- ah ok man... I'll log a fault with them and see if there forthcoming with any info.
[14:05] <brunch875> Whenever a new version rolls out I just clean install; so, out of curiosity... how well do upgrades work? Does stuff and packages tend to break?
[14:05] <triss> You're pretty sure a fix won't be in newer kernels yet?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: upgrades work nicely, it its time to upgrade
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> triss: TJ- left
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> triss: i advise you test a higher kernel, to make sure its not related for your case
[14:06] <triss> ok thanks man. I'll give it a go.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> brunch875: wich upgrade are you willing to try?
[14:07] <brunch875> Oh no, I always clean install as soon as it's out
[14:07] <brunch875> was just a matter of curiosity since I never upgrade
[14:07] <ducasse> triss: at the end of the day you probably need to talk to hp, and they are *horrible* at stuff like this.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | brunch875 check here
[14:08] <triss> ducase - this makes me really sad. You'd have thought they'd be super keen to get Linux support going by now.
[14:09] <ducasse> triss: they could care less, unfortunately. i'm never buying hp again.
[14:09] <Lope> I want to get debootstrab deb file for xenial (I'm not running Xenial) http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/debootstrap/download Now I want to check that the SHA256sum matches the Ubuntu GPG key. How do I do that?
[14:09] <Mr_Red> hi
[14:10] <Lope> Where is there a SHA256SUMS file that includes the debootstrap deb package?
[14:11] <OerHeks> Lope, scroll down that page
[14:11] <Bent0> I've removed nginx using apt remove and then removed /etc/init.d/nginx and /etc/nginx etc by hand. Now when I apt install nginx again it installs nginx but doesn tcreate the default folders and init scripts again :s any idea?
[14:11] <Lope> OerHeks: I did, there's nothing about GPG signed stuff there?
[14:12] <OerHeks> sha256checksum, yes there is
[14:12] <mort> hey
[14:12] <Lope> OerHeks: you need to educate yourself on what a GPG signed checksum is.
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> Lope: tone down please
[14:13] <mort> I have a system running 16.04. Sometimes, when trying to shut it down, it just hangs endlessly. Any idea how to fix that?
[14:13] <mort> Systemd just prints "Reached target Shutdown" and then nothing happens
[14:13] <Lope> lotuspsychje: okay, sorry.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> mort: does a sudo halt -p shutdown properly?
[14:13] <mort> don't know, I generally use sudo shutdown -h now
[14:13] <enoch85> hey guys, I have an issue with dependency issues with mysql 5.6 and I don't know how to solve it
[14:13] <enoch85> I tried to purge mysql*
[14:13] <enoch85> and reinstall
[14:13] <enoch85> but it didn't help
[14:13] <enoch85> and now I get this: http://pastebin.com/5zAwn3jv
[14:13] <enoch85> and when I try to install again I get this: http://pastebin.com/K1svVqMz
[14:14] <triss> hmmmm.... am I right in thinking there's no 4.6 mainline kernel for xenial yet?
[14:14] <triss> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[14:14] <mort> is there any reason to believe halt -p will behave differently than shutdown -h ?
[14:14] <enoch85> hey guys, I have an issue with dependency issues with mysql 5.6 and I don't know how to solve it. I tried to purge mysql* and reinstall but it didn't help and now I get this: http://pastebin.com/5zAwn3jv. And when I try to install again I get this: http://pastebin.com/K1svVqMz
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> triss: you can use the 4.6 wily one for example
[14:15] <triss> oh ok... I'll give that a try
[14:15] <Mr_Red> try autoremove and reinstall
[14:15] <genii> mort: Since they are both symlinks to systemctl, not really
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> mort: try if it works, also F1 to see text on shutdown perhaps?
[14:17] <mort> f1 does nothing, but the way I know it just hangs at "Reached target Shutdown" is that I removed the splash kernel option in grub
[14:17] <Lope> Where is there a SHA256SUMS file that includes all of the deb packages?
[14:20] <enoch85> Mr_Red: I've tried autoremove, autoclean, -f install purge, yeah right about everything
[14:21] <Guest95414> Hello everyone
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> mort: is this similar for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1464917
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> enoch85: did you purge all ppa's with ppapurge first?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: good afternoon
[14:23] <mort> shutdown hanging at "Reached target Shutdown" certainly seems like my case
[14:24] <Guest95414> How can I connect Jack and Firefox and be able to hear the sound of Youtube, while Jack is running?
[14:24] <mort> though it's not clear if it happens every time he tries to shut down or just sometimes; for me it's only sometimes
[14:24] <Guest95414> Youtube doesn't work if Jack is running...
[14:24] <mort> also, according to that, it's fixed in vivid, I'm running xenial and have the issue
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> mort: was your 16.04 a clean install or upgrade?
[14:25] <mort> clean install
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  hi
[14:25] <mort> wait, no, upgrade from 15.10
[14:25] <mort> my bad
[14:25] <mort> I could try to reinstall 16.04
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> mort: you can update the bug first, add your experience
[14:26] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: no I didn't
[14:26] <mort> alright, will do
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> mort: some 15.10 and 16.04 reported to be affected also on this bug
[14:26] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: would that change anything?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> enoch85: yes ppapurge removes ppa's & packages aswell
[14:27] <mort> ubuntu honestly seems to have an annoying amount of these relatively small bugs
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> enoch85: try to set your repos back to original and sudo apt-get update after
[14:27] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: thanks, will try
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> mort: you could try a 16.04 liveusb, and compare with your current upgrade
[14:28] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: right now I'm trying to update to xenial without mysql, and then install a fresh mysql in the new system
[14:29] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: everything started to fail when I was about to update... and it was like 4 months since I did the last update
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> enoch85: upgrade from wich version?
[14:29] <enoch85> 14.04
[14:29] <enoch85> lotuspsychje:
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | enoch85
[14:30] <mort> the problem with trying a live usb is that it only happens now and then, so there's no guarantee I would detect the issue even if it existed by just trying to shutdown a few times
[14:30] <ArabicSoap> When I install Ubuntu it asks for LVM. What is that? Should I check it?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | ArabicSoap
[14:31] <enoch85> lotuspsychje: but ubntu 16.04 is already released... I uphraded several of my servers already
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> ArabicSoap  LVM means logical volume manager
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> enoch85: thats the the LTS way mate
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> not
[14:31] <mika2> Can questions be asked that relate to programs installed on ubuntu (post install) or is it unbuntu only?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> mika2: if your main Os is ubuntu sure
[14:32] <mika2> cool thx
[14:32] <ArabicSoap> MonkeyDust: so should I check it? Will the system run better?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> ArabicSoap  'better' depends on what you prefer ... read the links ubottu sent you
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> ArabicSoap  with lvm you can more easily resize partitions
[14:35] <davemwi> hey all...curious which if any GIT front-end you would recommend?
[14:35] <mort> learning the command line git client is valuable
[14:36] <davemwi> mort, yep, i know...long time command line SVN user...just curious on the front end though.