[00:00] <hatter> any clues why firefox would stop working ?
[00:00] <Ice_Max> its no big deal if i have to format the ubnuntu partition again, since i have nothing on it yet.
[00:00] <zvacet> Ice_Max : just install that driver on win partition and you will see Ubuntu
[00:00] <Ice_Max> thanks for the help everyonme
[00:00] <Xcell> hatter--  did you try rebooting?
[00:00] <hatter> Xcell, no,
[00:00] <Xcell> you may have 2
[00:00] <hatter> need to reboot after recent upgrades ?
[00:00] <d0wn> okay, so, basically I have a BIOS 1024 cylinder limit. how would I install the kernel in a different partition?
[00:00] <hatter> Xcell, ok i will try this
[00:00] <Xcell> ok
[00:01] <hatter> unusual to need to do this on linux :)
[00:01] <Xcell> i know
[00:01] <hatter> Xcell, oh i see,  after recent apt-get upgrade i have a reboot required icon on the bar
[00:02] <Xcell> ok
[00:04] <Mike> Hey, what command can I run to see what flavor of ubuntu is currently on my box?
[00:04] <solexious> [Q] Im trying to use:   find . -name "*.ini" | xargs rm   but it has a hissy cos some folders have spaces in the name, how can i fix this?
[00:04] <Xcell> uname -a
[00:04] <bobbob1016> Is there any way to install splashy without removing ubuntu-desktop?  I know ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, but I prefer keeping it.  Splashy is a usplash replacement, so I can see why it'd be in ubuntu-desktop, but just wondering.
[00:05] <Guest84066> Xcell: Does that actually display Ubuntu Studio, etc?
[00:05] <Xcell> not sure
[00:05] <sixpence> It doesn't.
[00:05] <ffm> Hey, I just installed ubuntu-server, and now ehn booting I get "this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU" (newline) "0:8"
[00:05] <ffm> Any idea why/how I can fix this?
[00:06] <Ice_Max> i can use a USB drive as swap space right?
[00:06]  * ffm is running this inside VirtualBox.
[00:06] <rampageoberon> Ice_Max: yes
[00:06] <ffm> Ice_Max: Flash drive?
[00:06] <ChunkyKs> solexious: find . -name \*.ini -exec rm {} \;
[00:06] <ffm> Ice_Max: That's bad.
[00:06] <Ice_Max> ffm: yes
[00:06] <ffm> Ice_Max: It'll kill the drive quickly.
[00:06] <ChunkyKs> be warned that's not portable to a lot of unixes
[00:06] <Ice_Max> o wiat, does it always use that as the swap space then?
[00:06] <ChunkyKs> but since this is an ubuntu chatroom I imagine that won't be an issue
[00:06] <Ice_Max> permantently?
[00:07] <solexious> chunkyks: thank you
[00:07] <ChunkyKs> welcome
[00:07] <stemount^> Ice_Max: it's not recommended to use as swap space, because pen drives "wear out" easily
[00:07] <kappabuntu> wow I hate adobe... "http://www.americanbusinesscard.com/user/cgi/catalog/catalog.hd"... does anyone else get a pop-up requiring adobe reader even though I have it installed. I realized I could view the catalog when I turned off adblock for the page -_- (and installing adobe reader)
[00:07] <tonewhy> hi i have a laptop with centrino ip2100 chip and i plugged in a dlink dwl-g630 cardbus, and i'm trying to get kismet to run
[00:07] <ChunkyKs> always use -exec to find instead of xargs, if you can
[00:07] <tonewhy> can anyone help me?
[00:07] <ffm> Ice_Max: yes, forever.
[00:08] <ffm> Ice_Max: you have a limmited number of writes to flash drives. That number is high, like 10,000-100,000, but using it as swap hurts quickly.
[00:08] <[d]0wn> I have a BIOS 1024 cylinder limit. how would I install the kernel in a different partition?
[00:09] <Ice_Max> how much space should i leave for swap space?
[00:09] <Xcell> 1.5x your ram
[00:10] <Ice_Max> xcell: so 6 gigs? ( i have 2gb of RAM)
[00:10] <stemount^> Ice_Max: 3GB
[00:10] <genii> 3
[00:10] <Xcell> prolly 4.?
[00:10] <K^Holtz> im about to install ubuntu on my laptop, brand new HDD, will the wireless work from the start?
[00:10] <Ice_Max> der, i can;t do math :p
[00:10] <Blaenk> anyone know why my cd drive isn't showing up in the bios boot sequence menu? It shows up in the other bios menu where it lists the drives on the computer but it doesn't show it in the boot sequence menu, this is preventing me from installing ubuntu
[00:10] <Blaenk> !boot
[00:10] <genii> Maybe 4 since even multiples are nice
[00:10] <zvacet> Ice_Max : it is 3 then and I think it is too much you will be good with 2
[00:11] <Ice_Max> one last qustion, sholud i put the swap space between my Xp partition and my ubuntu oe or does it not matter?
[00:11]  * stemount^ never really uses the swap
[00:11] <stemount^> Ice_Max: as close to ubuntu as possible
[00:11] <zvacet> Ice_Max : put it on the end of disc
[00:12] <Blaenk> anyone?
[00:12] <K^Holtz> !dualboot
[00:12] <ffm> Soooooooooo.
[00:12] <Blaenk> K^Holtz: no not what I meant
[00:12] <genii> Ice_Max: Swap space is best put at start or end of disk
[00:12] <prologi1> Hey all, I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed. How do I upgrade to 8.10 ?
[00:12] <K^Holtz> Blaenk: i was doing that for my own good
[00:12] <ffm> Any idea what the kernel message "this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU" (newline) "0:8"
[00:12] <UsuarioDoBrasil> I need some help on installing Ubuntu on Virtualbox!
[00:12] <stemount^> prologi1: 8.10 isn't released yet!
[00:13] <genii> prologi1: 8.10 is not officially released yet, hence there is no upgrade from 8.04 to it
[00:13] <ffm> !ask | UsuarioDoBrasil
[00:13] <prologi1> stemount: yes but I can still use it though ?
[00:13] <zvacet> prologi1 : I don´t believe you want to do that
[00:13]  * stemount^ agrees with zvacet, prologi1
[00:13] <ASULutzy> prologi1: Ubuntu's version numbers come from the year and month they released. gutsy gibbon was 7.10, meaning october 2007, Hardy Heron is 8.04, meaning April 2008, and 8.10 will be Intrepid Ibex, and that comes out in October of 2008
[00:14] <UsuarioDoBrasil> If I install Ubuntu or Debian in Virtualbox, how much space will b consumed?
[00:14] <zvacet> 	UsuarioDoBrasil : give it min 5GB
[00:15] <bobbob1016> prologi1, I don't think you should go to an early release unless you know how.  You need to know how to do it, to be able to handle it.
[00:15] <UsuarioDoBrasil> And, will it make any changes to my bootloader or Windows drivers, or something out of the VM?
[00:15] <creature> Hi. I started my PC up with an external soundcard attached, but it's no longer attached. How do I convince Ubuntu/ALSA to retect and use my internal soundcard instead?
[00:15]  * ndf is back.
[00:16] <pawan> Where does one go about to begin coding?
[00:16] <ChunkyKs> pawan: coding what? Do you want to write games, or websites, or?
[00:16] <zvacet> UsuarioDoBrasil : no it is virtual machine inside your windows
[00:16] <kevjava> int main() { printf("Hello, world!"); }
[00:17] <Ice_Max> once i install ubuntu, i should be prompted which OS i want to boot right
[00:17] <stemount^> Ice_Max:
[00:17] <stemount^> yes
[00:17] <Ice_Max> ok
[00:17] <stemount^> !return | stemount^
[00:17] <foey_> Guys, Want to learn a programming language, running Ubuntu 8.04. Good place to start? Had previous VB experience years ago
[00:17] <stemount^> heh
[00:17] <Ice_Max> dam, ubuntu is quick to install from live CD
[00:17] <alan_m> Ice_Max, yep, sure is :)
[00:17] <kevjava> VB and python could be fairly close.
[00:17] <stemount^> Ice_Max: much faster with the alternative CD, I use a pen drive to install ubuntu off, it's mad speed
[00:17] <stemount^> :)
[00:17] <alan_m> Ice_Max, which cd are you using? the live or alternate install cd?
[00:18] <alan_m> stemount^, ive found the lives faster because it just copies an "image" of whats on the cd to your pc..the alternate has to unpack everything, so it generally takes longer.
[00:18] <Ice_Max> alan_m: the regualr live Cd, i got it from discountlinuxdvd.com
[00:18] <kevjava> foey_: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html
[00:19] <alan_m> Ice_Max, yeah :)
[00:19] <foey_> kevjava - Python, Whats Best program to get to grips with?
[00:19] <stemount^> Idle
[00:19] <K^Holtz> Will my touchpad on my sony vaio work right away with ubuntu?
[00:19] <stemount^> foey_: IDE the python IDE
[00:19] <stemount^> K^Holtz: it's likely
[00:19] <Ice_Max> i bought like 4 different linux variations in 32 and 64 bit to see which distro i liked
[00:19] <kevjava> PyDE?
[00:19] <stemount^> K^Holtz: try it in the live CD
[00:19] <stemount^> if it works ont hat
[00:19] <K^Holtz> stemount^: wireless too?
[00:20] <K^Holtz> stemount^: ill do that
[00:20] <alan_m> yep, Ice_Max do you need help with anything buddy?
[00:20] <stemount^> K^Holtz: live cd will reveal all :)
[00:20] <alan_m> are ya understanding it all Ice_Max ?
[00:20] <K^Holtz> stemount^: will live cd run on an unformatted hdd?
[00:20] <stemount^> yep
[00:20] <K^Holtz> great
[00:20] <stemount^> it won't touch your system
[00:20] <K^Holtz> my hdd crashed so this one is brand new
[00:20] <stemount^> sure
[00:20] <kevjava> K^Holtz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514292 <-- TZ series?
[00:21] <stemount^> well guys I hope you enjoyed your support from me tonight - i'm going to sleep :)
[00:21] <K^Holtz> kevjava: its a Z series
[00:21] <UsuarioDoBrasil> If I install Debian to a VM, it wont affect nothing, NEITHER drives or USB? IT WILL NOT TOUCH Windows?
[00:21] <alan_m> to append to stemount^ 's statement..it wont touch your HD UNLESS you tell it to install to it, THEN and ONLY then will it touch your HD to do anything.
[00:21] <foey_> Cheers :)
[00:21] <HalphaZ> hello
[00:21] <HalphaZ> I suppose that in ubuntu first  registered user is a sudo member, is it?
[00:21] <stemount^> yes
[00:21] <stemount^> yeah alan_m you are correct, if you go to any hard drive utilities, you can cause chaos
[00:22]  * alan_m is a veteran at ubuntu :D
[00:22] <stemount^> :)
[00:22]  * stemount^ is an ubuntu slave
[00:22] <steph291> camserv is not working anymore on kernel 2.6 ?
[00:22] <alan_m> anyways back On Topic :)
[00:22] <stemount^> k cya
[00:22] <stemount^> :)
[00:22] <steph291> I use it on dsl linux and it work fine
[00:23] <skeletonejack> Anyone mind giving me a quick hand with beryl?
[00:23] <Encoding> Excuse me, but I'm running into quite a bit of a problem lately. The problem is that whenever I open a link in firefox(or a torrent in deluge) that contains a lot of Japanese characters it somewhat messes up and does not display these characters
[00:23] <steph291> I have 2 video device usb and pci bttv
[00:23] <Encoding> Can anyone help me with this?
[00:23] <[T]an1> can anyone tell me how to use my bluetooth headset with ubuntu? want to use it with my softphone
[00:23] <UsuarioDoBrasil> OK, I will install Debian.
[00:23] <alan_m> Encoding, have you installed the language packs for the japanese characters?
[00:23] <Encoding> And another problem I have, is that the panels aren't where they're supposed to be. Can anyone help me with that as well?
[00:24] <UsuarioDoBrasil> Do you reccommend it?
[00:24] <Encoding> alan_m: I just did. Some SCIM thing came up too. I disabled Japanese input.
[00:24] <Encoding> (I have no need for Japanese input, just output)
[00:24] <zvacet> UsuarioDoBrasil : yes,but why don´t you try Ubuntu
[00:24] <Encoding> Note: It worked fine in ubuntu 7.10, with the exception that scim was kinda broken for me back then
[00:24] <Skyline969> Did I get the official Ubuntu IRC?
[00:24] <jrib> Skyline969: yes
[00:24]  * skeletonejack nods
[00:24] <alan_m> yes sKyyline969, your here :D
[00:24] <[T]an1> anyone on the bluetooth headset in ubuntu?
[00:25] <Skyline969> I have no idea how to work IRC clients.
[00:25] <Encoding> lemme show you an example, alan_m
[00:25] <Skyline969> Obviously I did something right, though. =P
[00:25] <alan_m> skyline969, thats ok, we can help ya now that your here ;)
[00:25] <Skyline969> I have a question. Can someone help?
[00:25] <zvacet> Skyline969 :ask
[00:25] <alan_m> skyline969, just ask your question man :)
[00:25] <kevjava> We'll do our best:).
[00:26] <Skyline969> I tried starting Ubuntu on my laptop via the Live CD and it took 45 minutes for it to completely lock up.
[00:26] <Skyline969> It loaded the cursor and the background.
[00:26] <Skyline969> It was still freezing a lot.
[00:26] <Skyline969> But still, it shouldn't have taken that long.
[00:26] <Skyline969> It took maybe 10 minutes on my old junker computer (300 MHz, 128 megs RAM)
[00:26] <Skyline969> But why would it take so long on my laptop?
[00:26] <alan_m> skyline969, have you tried the alternate install cd?
[00:27] <rsk> Skyline969: try booting with -noapci
[00:27] <skeletonejack> Could anyone lend me a hand installing Beryl? The wiki is down at the moment, and I am a bit new to using it
[00:27] <Skyline969> I only have the Live CD I ordered.
[00:27] <alan_m> Skyline969, thats ok, go ahead and listen to rsk :)
[00:27] <creature> I started my PC up with an external soundcard attached, but it's no longer attached. How do I convince Ubuntu/ALSA to retect and use my internal soundcard instead?
[00:27] <Skyline969> How would I boot with -noacpi?
[00:27] <rsk> Skyline969: dont install beryl, compiz is already installed.
[00:28] <Blaenk> isn't there a program I can put on my usb drive that will help me boot a disk?
[00:28] <Blaenk> !boot
[00:28] <Blaenk> !howtoboot
[00:28] <alan_m> !usb | Blaenk
[00:28] <Skyline969> It's booting in safe graphics mode right now, seeing if that fixes anything.
[00:28] <Skyline969> Still booting, though.
[00:29] <Blaenk> no I'm not talking about booting from usb, well yeah that too but I mean I want a program that I can run from usb that will help me boot my disk because it's not booting up
[00:29] <Blaenk> it says 'looking for boot record', then it goes to the next screen and it's just black with a blinking cursor
[00:29] <chuy_max> where can I get the Qt 4 examples?, I searched in the repositories without luck
[00:29] <Skyline969> Wow, major lag.
[00:29] <Blaenk> chuy_max: try asking in #kde
[00:29] <alan_m> Blaenk, silly question, is your bios capable of booting from a cd/usb?
[00:29] <Blaenk> chuy_max: or heck even #qt
[00:30] <Skyline969> I'll be right back. Gonna see if my laptop has booted. This time I'll wait a few hours and see if it loads.
[00:30] <bluefoxx> so i have a machine with two 1ghz p3  cpus, a gig of ram, and a nvidia 5200. problem: wont boot any version of linux ive tried so far
[00:30] <Blaenk> alan_m: I'm not stupid, of course I checked that first, and like I said in the above message, it seems to boot into it but it just gives me a black screen with a blinking cursor
[00:30] <chuy_max> Blaenk, o_O
[00:30] <bluefoxx> win2k installs fine, but i odnt really want 2k
[00:30] <Skyline969> Perhaps it's taking so long because I only have 128 megs of RAM and I have roughly 2 GB of free space.
[00:30] <Encoding> alan_m: this is how it looks like http://s3.supload.com/free/Japanese.png/view/
[00:30] <alan_m> !attitude | Blaenk
[00:30] <Blaenk> hah I'm the one with the attitude, whatever :P
[00:30] <kevjava> chuy_max: they should be in qt4-docs, I think.
[00:31] <seth556> good evening from orlando
[00:31] <Chaotic_Descent> why do my USB drives randomly not mount?
[00:31] <rdz> hi all. i am trying to install the artwiz fonts on hardy, following those instructions: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/artwiz-fonts-on-ubuntu-hardy/ . however, they don't show up in xfontsel. what am i doing wrong?
[00:31] <zvacet> Blaenk :maybe it is related to your graphic card
[00:31] <Encoding> alan_m: know of a way to fix that? also I'd prefer it if the panel that's on top(the windows panel) was below, and so I set it. But everytime I reboot it goes back to that position
[00:32] <Blaenk> no it's definitely not
[00:32] <Xcell> good day folks
[00:32] <Skyline969> Thank God that the boot time from the Live CD is in no way as fast as it will boot from the hard drive once installed.
[00:32] <seth556> sometimes when I'm watching a video on youtube it will load and then firefox will suddenly close, how do i fix this?
[00:32] <kevjava> rdz: http://movingparts.net/2008/05/17/sanity-restored-artwiz-fonts-in-kubuntu-hardy/
[00:32] <steph291> what application should I use for streaming video, let say 1 frame per 10 second, from a bt848 pci device ?
[00:32] <Chaotic_Descent> there's some nonsense error about how there's an NTFS signature missing.
[00:33] <moshe> I have been trying to install additional artwork/icons in 8.04 but am not sure of the proceedure. could anyone guide me in the right direction?
[00:33] <seth556> is there problems with firefox and flash working together?
[00:33] <[T]an1> i tried to run hcitool scan and got the following error: Device is not available: No such device
[00:33] <jack__> hey seth
[00:33] <[T]an1> can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong?
[00:33] <jack__> yeah, you have to download a certain plug-in
[00:33] <rdz> kevjava, i've tried all those instructios... with no luck. but thanks
[00:33] <seth556> do you know which one?
[00:33] <un_dave> morning all. or whatever greeting is relevant to your time of day :)
[00:34] <seth556> evening here
[00:34] <kdridi> hi
[00:34] <Skyline969> Aha, rebooting in safe graphics mode is looking more promising, although it's still taking a long time.
[00:34] <moshe> hiya un_dave
[00:34] <jack__> hold on a second, I'll look it up real quick, to see the one that works for me
[00:34] <Skyline969> Now I see a light light brown background, two white bars on the top and bottom of the screen, and the cursor.
[00:34] <alan_m> encoding, i have no idea :/
[00:34] <rdz> kevjava, the link you posted, points to another page, that doesn't work for hardy, since there is no artwiz package anymore
[00:34] <steph291> camserv works fine with my usb quickcam (video0) but not for my pci bt848 :((
[00:34] <steph291> why
[00:34] <legend2440> Chaotic_Descent: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=524343
[00:34] <totototo> hi
[00:35] <rdz> kevjava, i installed the fonts and i did all the config stuff, restarted X, but still they don't show up in xfontsel
[00:35] <Encoding> alan_m: yeah, I tried installing Japanese support from System->Administration-> Language support
[00:35] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks. I'll take a look.
[00:35] <Encoding> still the same thing
[00:35] <kevjava> Yeah, you have to download the artwiz font from sourceforge.
[00:35] <Skyline969> Does anyone here work with ClicksAndWhistles IRC Client?
[00:35] <Encoding> alan_m: how about the panel thing?
[00:35] <un_dave> i have a simple one for someone out there, i'm installing azureus, and need to copy the extracted files to a permenant place to live. Where is the proper place to put them?
[00:35] <kevjava> Ubuntu doesn't ship a package for them anymore.
[00:35] <alan_m> Encoding, THAT should have fixed it....but..your saying it didnt?
[00:35] <Skyline969> I want to bookmark or favorite (or whatever it's called) this channel.
[00:35] <Skyline969> No clue how to, though.
[00:35] <Skyline969> Never mind, found it. =P
[00:35] <seth556> skyline what program do you use?
[00:35] <un_dave> I was looking in /user/bin, but that just looks like shortcuts to programs
[00:35] <Chaotic_Descent> heh. it wants me to format the drive? I have all my digital pictures on there. :>
[00:35] <seth556> ok
[00:36] <sandy> when i am playing any videos in vlc or anyother app , the video are playing with colour or different color
[00:36] <Skyline969> ClicksAndWhistles, seth.
[00:36] <Encoding> I right clicked a panel, made it go top, and then bottom again, but I can't save the config or something, everytime I reboot it's still sorta broken
[00:36] <sorush20> last time I was here it only had about 900 users
[00:36] <rdz> why anyway did the maintainers of ubuntu drop that package? i cannot really understand it
[00:36] <Skyline969> It's for Windows.
[00:36] <seth556> oh then nevermind
[00:36] <Chaotic_Descent> maybe something screwed up when windows tried to run an agonizingly slow scan that couldn't be stopped instead of booting up and I hit reset.
[00:36] <legend2440> Chaotic_Descent: no read post #5
[00:36] <zvacet> un_dave : do you install azureus from synaptic
[00:36] <Skyline969> Heh, once I get Ubuntu on my laptop, I'll need to get Winamp to work on it, Wonderland Online, and I'm gonna get Gaim.
[00:37] <seth556> jack_ is it libflash-mozilla?
[00:37] <un_dave> zvacet: nope. i want to use the latest, so have the current version from sourceforge
[00:37] <sandy> anyone help me in the video
[00:37] <kevjava> Skyline969:  Try audacious instead
[00:37] <Chaotic_Descent> oh, thanks. Sorry. I think I'm getting tired.
[00:37] <jack__> seth - i believe it's just the shockwave flash plug-in that I have.  "shockwave flash 9.0 r124"
[00:37] <kevjava> of Winamp.
[00:37] <un_dave> zvacet: hence the issue. it doesnt install, it's just a jar file in a directory
[00:37] <seth556> hmm ok let me look
[00:37] <jack__> i downloaded it when i used firefox for the first time
[00:37] <themime> i have a server set up with ubuntu and i want to set up some kind of streaming audio so i can listen to my own music from work instead of crappy internet radio, is there a command line client i can download that will let me do this?
[00:38] <jack__> and went to a youtube page
[00:38] <jack__> it said there was a missing plugin, and i dled that one
[00:38] <seth556> let me look it up and see
[00:38] <un_dave> zvacet: it runs fine as it is, but i just want to file it in the appropriate spot
[00:38] <alan_m> Encoding, hang on lemme go try to find you something, i had an issue with my panels as well a while back.
[00:38] <Encoding> ok
[00:38] <jack__> Hi All -- I'm having trouble installing a driver for my Brother brand printer, can anyone help me?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[00:39] <legend2440> Chaotic_Descent: type in terminal   sudo fdisk -l   does it say its a ntfs or or something else like vfat?
[00:39] <amenado> jack-desktop-> are you using cups to manage your printer?
[00:39] <seth556> ok let me try that now
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Jack__ Did you look to see if your printer was in the supported hardware list
[00:39] <Skyline969> Oh, another question. Does anyone here plau Wonderland Online? I'll need help getting it to work with Wine.
[00:39] <Skyline969> play*
[00:39] <amenado> jack__-> are you using cups to manage your printer?
[00:39] <jack__> cups? I don't even know what that is
[00:39] <zvacet> un_dave : If you installed it it is on the right spot allready
[00:40] <jack__> should I use it?
[00:40] <p2p> hello
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jack__ What model printer
[00:40] <un_dave> zvacet: looking at the shell script for firefox in /usr/bin, it looks like the firefox system files are stored in /usr/lib. wouldnt that be a better spot for it?
[00:40] <jack__> this is the first printer I'm using with the computer
[00:40] <amenado> !who | jack__
[00:40] <steph291> will try mpeg4ip... but it's overkill for my project
[00:40] <alan_m> Encoding, try this and tell me what happens http://www.ubuntued.com/?p=8, your gonna have to log out and back in after you do the instructions, then come back here.
[00:40] <p2p> how can i delete this lost disc space??
[00:40] <jack__> it's a brother MFC-46CN
[00:40] <p2p> way@aquila:/home$ du -sh ~/.
[00:40] <p2p> 9,8G    /home/way/.
[00:40] <p2p> way@aquila:/home$
[00:40] <un_dave> zvacet: sorry for the confusion. i didnt install it, i just unzipped it on the desktop to see if it worked.
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jack__ Use tab to complete the name of the person you are trying to talk to
[00:41] <jack__> Jack_Sparrow, allright, thanks
[00:41] <zvacet> un_dave : you downloaded  tar.bz2 file didn´t you
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[00:41] <un_dave> zvacet: i did, indeed.
[00:42] <Chaotic_Descent> Thanks, legend2440. My USB drive works. I did start a web search after I asked, but even then I didn't use the right search.
[00:42] <alan_m> Encoding, you type that command in blue in a terminal window, to get to terminal go to applications->accessories->terminal.
[00:42] <zvacet> un_dave : so I believe you have to compile it look for read me file in uncompresed folder
[00:42] <Xpistos> Is anyone using a window manager other than KDE or Ubuntu? Flexbox, Enlightenment etc?
[00:42] <zvacet> un_dave : and install file
[00:42] <Encoding> alan_m: I want to find a way to save my configuration, resetting it sounds kinda scary
[00:42] <Encoding> everything else works
[00:42] <Encoding> I can save added applets to my panels
[00:42] <Encoding> Just that I can make one go above the other
[00:43] <Chaotic_Descent> Is there any way to automatically mount "removable" (as in sometimes I plug them in, other times I don't) HDs and vfat USB drives like these?
[00:43] <nibras> hi
[00:43] <un_dave> zvacet: nope. it's a java app, so all of that is taken care of. it runs straight from the jar, and doesnt require installation... thanks to the wonders of java
[00:43] <zvacet> un_dave : what files saying to you
[00:43] <kexp903> Hi does anyone know hot to find the (hd?,?) list for my whole harddrive?
[00:43] <kexp903> I need to know what number is what for my custom grub
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kexp903 sudo fdisk -l
[00:44] <sarthor> how can i install squid from cd  in ubuntu hardy??
[00:44] <subsume> I updated my install of Ubuntu and its inexplicable KDE! How do I get it back to GNOME?
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor Is it on the cd?
[00:44] <pub> if i type man <anything>
[00:44] <un_dave> zvacet: i'm not getting any errors, it all runs fine where it is. i just want to know where i should put the directory... it's not much good leaving it running from a folder on my desktop
[00:44] <p2p> how can i delete this lost disc space??  9,8G    /home/way/.
[00:44] <alan_m> Encoding, i dont know what else to tell you than to do this, ive looked around google myself and this one was something that came up, maybe someone else in here has an idea?
[00:44] <kexp903> Jack_Sparrow, that only gives me the /dev/sdnumber
[00:44] <pub> how do i get out of the manul
[00:44] <kexp903> I need to know the (hh0,?)
[00:44] <kexp903> how do I do this
[00:44] <zvacet> un_dave : you can not run azureus without java I know that but do you have java installed
[00:44] <Encoding> oh okay. Thanks anyway alan_m.
[00:45] <Encoding> I'm just rather afraid of that step, no offense.
[00:45] <derspankster> rhythmbox stops importing music files from my server. How to get it restarted?
[00:45] <Chaotic_Descent> also, why is it that in gedit and a few other apps and such, does my home folder list like 100 directories that look like hidden system files? hard to find my regular folders in all that mess.
[00:45] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, i dont know how to fined that pakage in the cd, i have download the iso from internt of about 600+ MB
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kexp903 hd0 = a  hd0,0 is part 1 so hda1  = hd0,0
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !find squid
[00:45] <alan_m> Encoding, honestly, i dont blame you.
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !info squid
[00:46] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, are the msgs for me???
[00:46] <piojosso> i have a computer not connected to internet.. to install the modem, i need some packages with a circle of dependency. how do i do it? i've downloaded the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor It is optional in main, so may not be on livecd
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor Do you have internet access on that box
[00:47] <jack__> seth556, hey, did that end up working for you?
[00:47] <seth556> jack nope
[00:47] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, yes i have internet access, and i can install wth the help of apt-get but i want to learn if some time i need that, So want to fully equepted
[00:47] <kevjava> piojosso: like a dpkg -i *.deb ?
[00:47] <cens0red> good moaning.
[00:48] <Majost> Has anyone seen an issue building binary-custom kernels where it errors out building the package?
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor the ubuntu dvd includes the "Main" repo  see also aptoncd
[00:48] <un_dave> zvacet: sorry zvacet, i'm confusing you. there's nothing wrong with azureus, i have java installed, and it runs fine. the issue is where i should be putting 'program files' for ubuntu. I dont want the azureus folder just sitting on my desktop, i'd prefer to put it in the 'correct' location.
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[00:48] <uxe1> god evnin yall
[00:48] <lsemple2> I have successfully installed kubuntu to the hd, everything looks good, only problems is that I cannot get grub to load
[00:48] <lsemple2> anyone care to help ?
[00:48] <piojosso> kevjava: sorry i dont understand u... im a complete beginner
[00:48] <Majost> http://pastebin.ca/1044378
[00:49] <[T]an1> is the 2.6.24-19 kernel supposed to be available to aptitude install?
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Majost HAve you ever built a kernel before
[00:49] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, i checked the cd for the .deb pakages, but i did not find any. Where are that???
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !deb
[00:49] <zvacet> un_dave : you can put it in your home folder  but if azureus is installed it knows where to go I supose it is /usr/bin
[00:49] <kevjava> piojosso: just 'cd' into the directory with all the deb files that you want to install, then run 'dpkg -i *.deb', and dpkg should try and locally install them all.
[00:50] <ndf> hey guys, you know those things that pop up saying 'starting <program name>...', why do they still hang aroud and give you the wait icon even after whatever it's launching has finished launching?
[00:50] <ndf> *wait cursor
[00:50] <K^Holtz> so how hard it is to set up dual boot to windows if i have ubuntu installed first? i saw on the site it said to install windows first, but im not sure i wanna put windows on my laptop yet
[00:50] <Majost> Jack_Sparrow: Yes. I have a different binary-custom patchset which builds just fine
[00:50] <un_dave> zvacet: ok, thanks anyway
[00:50] <Majost> which is why I am at a loss here. heh
[00:50] <piojosso> kevjava: ok thanx :) i hope it works :S
[00:50] <subsume> My fresh update to 8.04 of is complaining that Hal is not configured yet. what to do?
[00:50] <kevjava> piojosso, np, i'll be here if it doesn't :).
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Majost I cant help with that, I have only built two and as luck would have it both worked
[00:51] <zvacet> un_dave : np you don´t have to worry everything looking good
[00:51] <ndf> subsume: config Hal. obviously.
[00:51] <subsume> ndf: obviously I tried that. dpkg-reconfigure hal?
[00:51] <subsume> ndf 'hal is broken or not fully installed'
[00:51] <kevjava> K^Holtz, I've done it in the past, you do your install, then you have to reinstall grub to the mbr.
[00:51] <ndf> apt-get -reinstall hal
[00:52] <georgewp> anyone know how to update url link handling in kde?
[00:52] <SpookyET> What has happened to the getdeb repository?
[00:52] <subsume> ndf command is not known
[00:52] <ndf> subsume: apt-get -reinstall hal
[00:52] <subsume> ....
[00:52] <ndf> sudo
[00:52] <ndf> lol
[00:52] <theFATMAN> what's the easiest way to install a font?
[00:52] <ndf> sudo apt-get -reinstall hal
[00:52] <uxe1> does any one know how i can install xubuntus wireless manager to kubuntu?
[00:52] <Majost> [T]an1: apt-cache policy linux-image may tell you
[00:52] <HardDisk> theFATMAN, copy fonts to .fonts
[00:52] <mneptok> theFATMAN: put it in ~/.fonts
[00:52] <zvacet> subsume : apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> SpookyET Still there.. http://getdeb.net/
[00:52] <subsume> ndf that's not a valid apt-get option
[00:53] <ndf> apt-get needs root obv
[00:53] <theFATMAN> thanks guys
[00:53] <K^Holtz> kevjava: ok, so i can just install ubuntu on the whole HDD now, then resize later if i decide to dual boot?
[00:53] <Majost> [T]an1: linux-image is just a virtual package though, so it may not.
[00:53] <subsume> thanks zvacet
[00:53] <HardDisk> SpookyET, site works.
[00:53] <ChunkyKs> does ubuntu have a tool to crack the password on a zipfile, by any chance?
[00:53] <zvacet> subsume : np
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> K^Holtz Create a data partition as first partition if you plan on doing that..
[00:53] <kevjava> K^Holtz, I've always done my partitioning beforehand, as the Windows partitioner isn't resize-friendly.
[00:53] <ChunkyKs> oh, fcrackzip
[00:53] <ChunkyKs> nm
[00:53] <amenado> !warez | ChunkyKs
[00:54] <jack__> Hey guys - another question on fonts -- does anyone know how to change a TTF font into a UTF-8 font?  I want to do this because I would like to dl fonts from the web and then use them in GIMP
[00:54] <subsume> I got a bunch of errors.
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ChunkyKs Yes, but that is offtopic in here.. but there are tools avbail
[00:54] <HardDisk> ChunkyKs, fcrackzip
[00:54] <ndf> subsume: oh sorry it's 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install hal'
[00:54] <HardDisk> amenado, he asked to crazk a zipfile
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[00:54] <subsume> While attempting to reinstall hal I got many errors. 'polkit-read-auth-helper: cannot lookup group info for gid 127
[00:54] <ndf> double hash and 'install' after to make sure it installs after getting
[00:54] <Xpistos>  Is anyone using a window manager other than KDE or Ubuntu? Flexbox, Enlightenment etc?
[00:54] <HardDisk> crack*
[00:54] <ndf> *double hyphen
[00:54] <kevjava> Xpistos, I have in the past, why do you ask?
[00:54] <HardDisk> amenado, it's in the repository, so technically it's a legit question.
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Jack_Sparrow: what do u mean by a data partition? make some of my HDD NTFS so that i can just use it as storage? then if i decide to install windows I can on that space?
[00:54] <cypher1> hi how do i adjust the refresh rate ?
[00:55] <cypher1> the refreshing is choppy
[00:55] <HardDisk> cypher1, what videocard?
[00:55] <HardDisk> cypher1, nvidia?
[00:55] <ChunkyKs> it's also worth noting that there's a lot of legitimate reasons to want the password on a zipfile
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> K^Holtz I would leave an ntfs as primary parition as windows likes to install there,
[00:55] <ChunkyKs> just like there's legitimate uses for nmap :-)
[00:55] <Xpistos> kevjava I want to install a few others to try them out Blackbox, Fluxbox and Enlightenment, but I am having trouble finding the correct repo.
[00:55] <SpookyET> Jack_Sparrow: that's not a repository.
[00:55] <cypher1> HardDisk, 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> SpookyET getdeb has never been a repo
[00:56] <ndf> SpookyET: !Multiverse is a ubottu trigger
[00:56] <ndf> !Multiverse
[00:56] <ndf> or not. -_-
[00:56] <ndf> sorry.
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> SpookyET Let me rephrase that.. not an official one that I am aware of
[00:56] <HardDisk> cypher1, ah then do it from Screen Resolution or edit xorg.conf manually.
[00:56] <K^Holtz> Jack_Sparrow: im just a lil confused here, this is a brand new clean HDD, Im burning the Ubuntu CD right now.. If im not sure i want windows, how should i setup my partitions on my 80gig drive?
[00:56] <ndf> oh
[00:56] <ndf> it is
[00:56] <HardDisk> !xorg > cypher1
[00:56] <kevjava> Xpistos, fluxbox is in universe.  Not sure about Flux or E16/17.
[00:56] <cypher1> HardDisk, thanks let me try those
[00:56] <connor> fluxbox is kind acool
[00:56] <connor> kinda cool*
[00:57] <SpookyET> Jack_Sparrow: of coarse there is not an official one, but there was one. now, it's empty
[00:57] <Skyline969> Um... someone?
[00:57] <HardDisk> !xorg
[00:57] <Xpistos> kevjava: Thanks for the help
[00:57] <rdz> is anyone using it witht artwiz fonts?
[00:57] <rdz> i mean fluxbox
[00:57] <Skyline969> It's STILL booting the desktop. Should it be taking THIS long?
[00:57] <connor> live cd?
[00:57] <Skyline969> Yes.
[00:57] <connor> yes
[00:57] <HardDisk> Skyline969, when you boot edit boot menu remove quiet splash -- and see where it stops
[00:57] <zvacet> Xpistos :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546746&highlight=Enlightenment
[00:57] <uxe1> any one know why xubuntu can read my wifi card and kubuntu cant?
[00:57] <connor> live cds take a little bit to boot
[00:57] <connor> just be patient skyline969
[00:58] <Skyline969> I'll give it an hour.
[00:58] <HardDisk> Skyline969, is it still reading?
[00:58] <HardDisk> be patient then
[00:58] <connor> not tha tlong
[00:58] <connor> more like
[00:58] <connor> 2 minutes
[00:58] <HardDisk> just give it 5 minutes
[00:58] <connor> yeah
[00:58] <Skyline969> It's not reading.
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> K^Holtz create 20 gig ntfs as sda1, create extended over the rest,  create 10 ext3 for /   ie root as logical in extended create 20 gig as /home as logical in extended create ext3 for general use leaving a 2 gig or so swap partition
[00:58] <HardDisk> then do what I told you
[00:58] <connor> just wait till the partitioning part comes along!
[00:58] <Skyline969> It's loading the desktop. It read the CD within 2 minutes.
[00:58] <HardDisk> Skyline969, when you boot edit boot menu remove quiet splash -- and see where it stops
[00:58] <kevjava> Xpistos, the other two are actually there too.
[00:58] <Skyline969> Edit boot menu? How so?
[00:58] <connor> skyline969: the partitiong part is real fun!!!!!
[00:58] <HardDisk> only do that if it doesn't load
[00:58] <koshari> uxe1 both can likely see your wifi card i would imagine the interface on xfce is simply different
[00:58] <soundray> Skyline969: hit F6
[00:58] <kajo_> audio isn't working, I know this is a known issue in 8.04; what's the solution? (audio in firefox/flash, specifically).
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !who | connor
[00:59] <kajo_> !tab
[00:59] <HardDisk> kajo_, change sound settings to Alsa
[00:59] <Skyline969> The partitioning part doesn't take as long. My hard drive's only 12 gigs or so.
[00:59] <Xpistos> zvacet: Checking on it now. I'll let you know
[00:59] <magic_ninja> is there an app to display network connections AND what speed they are transfering at
[00:59] <kajo_> HardDisk, how do I do that?
[00:59] <connor> yes
[00:59] <connor> magic_ninja: download conky
[00:59] <HardDisk> magic_ninja, install the netmon applet
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> connor There fragment sentences with no tag to who you are talking about are not helpful
[00:59] <seth556> jack_ I think i fixed it, uninstalled it in syntamic and reinstealled it using firefox
[00:59] <connor> oh ok
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> These
[00:59] <connor> k
[01:00] <HardDisk> connor, he wants to see it on his desktop
[01:00] <uxe1> i cant connect with K
[01:00] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:00] <jack__> Jack_Sparrow, The wiki you gave me helped me to install regular fonts.  I know how to install, I was just wondering about how I could change the type from a .ttf to a .utf  I have searched for this quite a while.  I might just change my question and ask if anyone knows how to install new cursive fonts on GIMP
[01:00] <HardDisk> magic_ninja, do the netmon applet
[01:00] <connor> yeah
[01:00] <Skyline969> I'll be back later.
[01:00] <connor> you can get conky on your desktop
[01:00] <fazed> hello everyone
[01:00] <uxe1> sry off topic ill wait till later
[01:00] <connor> own_window no in your conky rc
[01:00] <BCM43> hi fazed
[01:00] <magic_ninja> HardDisk, idc where its at i want to see the actual connections and what speed they are transfering at, seems like netmon only shows network traffic
[01:00] <HardDisk> kajo_, go to sound in your menu and change automatic to Alsa
[01:00] <dshar009> can anyone help me with uninstalling ubuntu? im a novice.
[01:00] <kevjava> uxe1, I think the nm-applet might help you run your card under xfce.
[01:00] <connor> magic_ninja: you mean like upload and download speed?
[01:00] <HardDisk> magic_ninja, then you need ntop
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jack__ Understood, just linking what I had available as a point of reference
[01:00] <kexp903> I still can't figure out what my Windows Vista partition is, I'm triple booting xp,vista,ubuntu
[01:00] <lsemple2> anyone know how to set up grub
[01:00] <rampageoberon> dshar009: you don't uninstall an OS, just format the partition
[01:01] <kexp903> Can anyone help?
[01:01] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:01] <connor> kexp903: yes
[01:01] <phoenix3051> Anyone any ideas why when I set my xorg settings using the gui for "amdcccle" the settings are "lost" when I reboot?
[01:01] <rampageoberon> dshar009: make why do you want to get rid of it?
[01:01] <HardDisk> !anyone | kexp903
[01:01] <kexp903> I need to know the (hd0,?) of my vista partition
[01:01] <sparky> Is there anyway to download the Ubuntu LiveCD, and run it off an external harddrive? I don't have a spare DVD that I could burn it on
[01:01] <magic_ninja> HardDisk, ty
[01:01] <jack__> Jack_Sparrow, no problem, thanks though
[01:01] <connor> sparky: use wubi
[01:01] <kajo_> HardDisk, either it didn't work, or I changed the wrong thing.
[01:01] <connor> sparky: wubi-installer.org
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> sparky The short answer is no
[01:01] <zvacet> Xpistos : I hope it will work for you I´m going to sleep now good night  to all
[01:01] <ndf> hey guys, you know those things that pop up saying 'starting <program name>...', why do they still hang aroud and give you the wait cursor even after whatever it's launching has finished launching?
[01:01] <rampageoberon> sparky: you can do a net install if you want
[01:01] <kexp903> so how can I find out the partition map of my hard drive
[01:01] <connor> jack_sparrow: its called wubi
[01:02] <K^Holtz> Jack_Sparrow: so what is that 20 gig sda1 used for then if i never install windows, the way u worded that breakdown is a little confusing (sorry to be a pain in the ass)
[01:02] <HardDisk> kajo_, in sound you'll find a list to change to alsa, then do sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[01:02] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:02] <kexp903> I tried the fdisk -l but only /dev/sda1
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> sparky If you decide to use wubi read the faq carefully, I will not use or recommend it
[01:02] <soundray> kexp903: grub starts counting at 0, so /dev/sda1 becomes (hd0,0)
[01:02] <puff> Hey, anybody know about kernel voodoo?
[01:02] <HardDisk> connor, dont suggest wubi
[01:02] <protocol1> phoenix3051, what type of graphics card are you using?
[01:02] <kexp903> It doesn't comeout as (hd0,0)
[01:02] <connor> it works fine for me
[01:02] <HardDisk> you != everyone else
[01:02] <sparky> I dont' really intend on using Wubi, to be honest with ya :/
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[01:02] <connor> harddisk:whats so bad about wubi?
[01:02] <kexp903> so /dev/sda2 would be (hd0,3)?
[01:02] <HardDisk> we'll take the discussion to offtopic, for now I'm just here to help.
[01:03] <phoenix3051> protocol1: ATI X1950 with dual monitors.
[01:03] <soundray> kexp903: no, (hd0,1)
[01:03] <rampageoberon> wubi isn't a true install
[01:03] <fazed> i wonder... there are 2 options for my resolution but only one of them seems to work without using virtualization..
[01:03] <connor> so?
[01:03] <kexp903> I see
[01:03] <kajo_> HardDisk, thanks, working.
[01:03] <HardDisk> !offtopic | connor
[01:03] <protocol1> phoenix3051, theres documentation for installing ATI drivers
[01:03] <HardDisk> kajo_, you're welcome
[01:03] <soundray> puff: ask your real question.
[01:03] <rampageoberon> connor: its a lot slower as its reading things off your ntfs partition. A full install is always better
[01:03] <sparky> I can't get Java to run, can I get a bit of help please?  For whatever reason when there's a java applet on the page the browser just crashes
[01:03] <connor> ok
[01:04] <HardDisk> sparky, you need to make sure Java's sun is running as the default
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> connor Have you ever read the faq on wubi..
[01:04] <protocol1> phoenix3051, you check the support forums?
[01:04] <connor> yes
[01:04] <puff> So, I've had all sorts of problems with my laptop.  I think some of the problems were greatly confused by simultaneous hardware problems.  However, what it boils down to is, I'm thinking about reinstallnig my system.  However, the key problem I'm having is due to the most recent kernels.  I
[01:04] <lsemple2> I am trying to get grub to work too no luck
[01:04] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:04] <sparky> HardDisk, how do I accomplish that?
[01:04] <puff> So once I install, if I do a full-update, I'll be back on the most recent kernel, which is causing disappearing wireless problems.
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> connor So you are ok with a setup where a power outage can wipe out your wubi and windows install
[01:05] <camason> I just had an issue 2 minutes ago... I hit ctrl+alt+backspace, and the system locked up with the PC speaker beeping 20 times. I had to manually power down
[01:05] <HardDisk> sparky, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:05] <phoenix3051> protocol1: The drivers are installed and everything appears to be working, until I reboot when the configuration appears to "reset" to 1 output with "clone"'d desktop as opposed to "dual" outputs and "big desktop"
[01:05] <lsemple2> whenever I turn on my computer I get "Error 15: file not found"
[01:05] <HardDisk> sparky, basically run  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[01:05] <lsemple2> I can't seem to set up my grub properly
[01:06] <puff> Is there a way to reinstall and keep it from advancing past kernel 2.6.24-16?
[01:06] <connor> ok
[01:06] <sparky> Nope, it still insists on crashing
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !who | connor
[01:06] <connor> i want to move my wubi install to a dedicated partition, how can i do so without losing all my settings?
[01:06] <BCM43> lsemple2: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685356
[01:06] <lsemple2> I can pastebin my menu.lst if anyone is interested
[01:06] <HardDisk> sparky, what application?
[01:07] <soundray> puff: not really, but  you can downgrade the kernel package and its dependencies. Slightly intricate, but possible.
[01:07] <sparky> HardDisk,  what do you mean?
[01:07] <protocol1> phoenix3051, you might want ask someone else about that....beyond me
[01:07] <protocol1> heh
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> connor The wubi site has info on that .... we dont have much info
[01:07] <connor> ok
[01:07] <phoenix3051> protocol1: Thanks for trying anyways
[01:08] <subsume> howto get packages that match search polkit that are installed?
[01:08] <soundray> puff: the trick is to know which files you need apart from linux-image-2.6.24-generic*.deb and install them with 'sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade'
[01:08] <BCM43> subsume: try synaptic
[01:08] <camason> I just had an issue 2 minutes ago... I hit ctrl+alt+backspace, and the system locked up with the PC speaker beeping 20 times. I had to manually power down. What should I do to try and find the cause?
[01:08] <devkarin> If anyone has time for a bit of troubleshooting I have an interesting problem
[01:08] <subsume> BCM43: Yes, ideally synaptic! =)
[01:08] <rampageoberon> subsume: sorry whats that? please rephrase
[01:08] <BCM43> devkarin: just ask in the channel
[01:08] <subsume> apt-cache search polkit *only installed*
[01:08] <soundray> !ask | devkarin
[01:08] <super-6-1> hello,  i have a Broadcom chipset running the bcm43xx driver, how can i chnge this to b34
[01:08] <subsume> how rampageoberon ?
[01:08] <lsemple2> BMC43: I dont have windows
[01:09] <rampageoberon> what are you trying to do subsume ?
[01:09] <subsume> rampageoberon: find package that matches polkit that is installed.
[01:09] <rdz> any hints on how to install xfonts manually?
[01:09] <devkarin> I'm trying to install the Sims 2, however after I put the second disk in, it won't recognize that i've done so, so won't continue with the install
[01:09] <BCM43> subsume: it has a search and sort by installed
[01:09] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> devkarin Is this under wine?
[01:09] <BCM43> super-6-1: can you connect to wireless>
[01:09] <john12> could someone please help me with something?
[01:09] <devkarin> yeah
[01:09] <rampageoberon> subsume: yes so you can use synaptic, or do sudo aptitude search polkit | grep "i"
[01:09] <john12> ok
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> devkarin /join #winehq
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[01:10] <super-6-1> BCM43, no i cant
[01:10] <john12> i installed win xp pro
[01:10] <ndf> SOMEBODY ANSWER ME BEFORE I REPEAT MYSELF FOR THE 20TH TIME PLEASE
[01:10] <ndf> hey guys, you know those things that pop up saying 'starting <program name>...', why do they still hang aroud and give you the wait cursor even after whatever it's launching has finished launching?
[01:10] <john12> then ubuntu
[01:10] <john12> the windows partition worked fine
[01:10] <john12> however
[01:10] <BCM43> !enter | john12
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps | ndf
[01:10] <legend2440> lsemple2: paste your menu.lst   ok?
[01:10] <john12> sorry
[01:10] <john12> well the xp partition will no longer boot
[01:10] <ndf> Jack_Sparrow: dont be such a jobsworth, i obviously needed to shout as nobody would answer me
[01:10] <rampageoberon> ndf: people here are volunteers and if they know about something you ask they will help
[01:10] <BCM43> super-6-1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[01:10] <ndf> there is a reason people shout
[01:11] <charlie1041>  hey i cant get talk to work, i installed xinetd and added entry for it.. even with 'mesg y' i get "user is refusing messages" what am i doing wrong?
[01:11] <charlie1041> please help
[01:11] <soundray> ndf: and do you see lots of help pouring in as a result? No, you've just managed to annoy.
[01:11] <super-6-1> BCM43, im running gusty
[01:11] <rampageoberon> Jack_Sparrow: whats the command for the volunteers stuff from ubottu please?
[01:11] <HardDisk> ndf, please calm down, I would answer if I knew what you meant.
[01:11] <BCM43> super-6-1: did you see my link?
[01:11] <BCM43> ndf is gone
[01:11] <super-6-1> BCM43, yes i did
[01:11] <[T]an1> so how can i upgrade to the newest kernel update in Hardy  (2.6.24-19)
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[01:11] <rampageoberon> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[01:12] <HardDisk> [T]an1, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <BCM43> super-6-1: so why cant u use that?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:12] <HardDisk> [T]an1, afterwards reboot and it will install and boot to the new kernel
[01:12] <super-6-1> BCM43, does it work for 8.04?
[01:12] <linuxmonkey> Jack_Sparrow: you rock.lol none of us should take that kind of treatment
[01:12] <john12> Does anyone know what might be wrong with my XP partition?
[01:12] <[T]an1> ahh the reboot is what i missed.
[01:12] <BCM43> super-6-1: if you follow the workaround
[01:12] <[T]an1> duh
[01:12] <HardDisk> [T]an1, i mean it will tell you to reboot
[01:12] <[T]an1> makes sense :-D
[01:12] <super-6-1> BCM43, alright thank you
[01:12] <BCM43> super-6-1: yw
[01:13] <HardDisk> for everyone, kernel upgrades always require a reboot.
[01:13] <rampageoberon> john12: what do you mean?
[01:13] <[T]an1> HardDisk: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:13] <subsume> Trying to reconfigure hal but getting a polkit error. very obscure on google. help.
[01:13] <ASULutzy> HardDisk: Actually you can hotswap kernels
[01:13] <john12> brb
[01:13]  * Beirdo waits patiently for someone to pick up his bug report on launchpad
[01:13] <ASULutzy> HardDisk: I've never done it, but it's possible
[01:13] <Sasha09> i can't make Dell 1390 wireless card work
[01:13] <HardDisk> ASULutzy, yes but not for noobs.
[01:13] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[01:13] <BCM43> subsume: what is the exact error?
[01:13] <ASULutzy> HardDisk: Heh, like most things in life :P
[01:13] <john12> sorry
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Sasha09 those are a bcm43xx chipset...
[01:13] <HardDisk> ASULutzy, it's not encouraged to teach that now :)
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[01:13] <subsume> BCM43: "polkit-read-auth-helper: cannot lookup group info for gid 127"
[01:14] <deeperror> is that the proper term hotswap kernel?
[01:14] <subsume> BCM43: looked in /etc/group -- no reference to gid 127
[01:14] <Uplink> I have Broadcom bcm43xx and it works fine with Hardy
[01:14] <Sasha09> I tried to use ndiswrapper
[01:14] <Sasha09> but it faile
[01:14] <super-6-1> BCM43, i have one other problem as well, how do i add screen resolutions to 8.04?
[01:14] <john12> well rampage...i installed windows xp first...i then installed ubuntu...after installing ubuntu the xp partition will no longer boot...grub sees it but when i select it it hangs
[01:14] <onthefence928> hey can anybody tell me or point me to a list of essential windows programs that can't be run under linux at all or don't have linux equivalents?
[01:14] <HardDisk> Uplink, there are many flavors not all will work
[01:14]  * kevjava thinks Jack_Sparrow is a teleprompter for ubottu.
[01:14] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[01:14] <BCM43> super-6-1: not sure
[01:14] <super-6-1> BCM43, no one is...
[01:14] <rampageoberon> john12: i'm not sure what the problem could be, i have that same setup and it works for me
[01:14]  * ASULutzy Quick we need a Turing test!
[01:14] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: dont use that link, it is not helpful
[01:15] <HardDisk> there are some revisions of BCM chipsets that will not work with the bcm cutter drivers.
[01:15] <subsume> BCM43: no dice eh?
[01:15] <K^Holtz> Jack_Sparrow: thats partitioning scenario you told me a little bit ago can all be done with an Ubuntu CD?
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> BCM43 We need to fix it just looked... not for hardy...
[01:15] <HardDisk> K^Holtz, yes
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> K^Holtz yes
[01:15] <BCM43> subsume: nope, sorry
[01:15] <john12> yeah i dont understand i have setup dual boot xp/ubuntu before with no problems
[01:15] <subsume> BCM43: reinstall from disk I guess.
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> K^Holtz You can also use the gparted live cd
[01:15] <john12> i can see the xp partition from ubuntu
[01:15] <rampageoberon> john12: something could have buggered up somewhere
[01:15] <HardDisk> john12, xp != vista, vista requires extra tweaking
[01:16] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: bazhang and i have been giving people https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[01:16] <tico> hello
[01:16] <john12> xp not vista
[01:16] <BCM43> hi tico
[01:16] <RULR> i have downloaded movie in 15 rar parts
[01:16] <puff> soundray: Hm.
[01:16] <RULR> how to extract
[01:16] <tico> bcm43> how are you
[01:16] <BCM43> !rar | RULR
[01:16] <BCM43> tico: quite nice thank you
[01:16] <puff> soundray: well, I can see in dpkg.log that it upgraded several packages at once.
[01:16] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: That Feisty link is the best one for getting broadcom drivers setup when hardy doesn't autodetect, it's the one that worked for me
[01:16] <tico> that is good
[01:17] <rampageoberon> john12: maybe boot up with windows CD, run fixmbr and then see if windows works fine? if it does work you can reinstall grub from live cd and test again
[01:17] <[T]an1> HardDrive: so I did all that and I am still on 2.6.24-18-generic
[01:17] <[T]an1> what could i be missing?
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom is Help with broadcom wireless https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[01:17] <HardDisk> [T]an1, enable repositories, and check which mirror you are using
[01:17] <john12> thx rampage
[01:17] <puff> soundray: I tried fixing it by just selecting the earlier kernel at the GRUB menu, but that appears to still be flaky as all getout.
[01:17] <soundray> puff: what's your wifi chipset?
[01:17] <[T]an1> HardDisk: how do i enable repos... and all that. Kinda new to ubuntu and apt
[01:17] <tico> hey some body knows how to speed up boot time on ubuntu 8.04? i don't know why it takes too long
[01:17] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: isn't it no, !broadcom is ...
[01:18] <onthefence928> hey can anybody tell me or point me to a list of essential windows programs that can't be run under linux at all or don't have linux equivalents?
[01:18] <puff> intel pro, ipw2200
[01:18] <HardDisk> [T]an1, give me one sec I'll point you to a link
[01:18] <[T]an1> ok
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> BCM43 Working on it
[01:18] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: not sure why you would want to run many windows programs in linux
[01:18] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: This is a bit picky, but why don't they include any mention of ndisgtk in there? I realize it's just a frontend for ndiswrapper, but still, it could make the process simpler and "warmer" for people having issues
[01:18] <deeperror> onthefence928, are you on the fence between windows and linux?
[01:18] <Sasha09> okay
[01:18] <Sasha09> for the bcm43
[01:18] <HardDisk> [T]an1, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[01:18] <Sasha09> i blacklisted it
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ASULutzy If someone wants to write up a decent page I will get it linked up
[01:19] <linuxmonkey> onthefence928: Essential is a relative question. as far as I know essential to me, there are none, linux has it all
[01:19] <Sasha09> but it didn't help
[01:19] <[T]an1> HardDisk: awesome... thanks
[01:19] <Sasha09> one sec i will look for the tutorial i was using
[01:19] <Skyline969> Leave it to Windows to automatically restart my computer....
[01:19] <HardDisk> np
[01:19] <Skyline969> Can't wait until I upgrade my laptop.
[01:19] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: that and the accompenying thread seem to be great
[01:19] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  because i want to see if i can do without windows
[01:19] <deeperror> linuxmonkey, should be the other way around what windows lacks
[01:19] <[T]an1> HardDisk: What repo would the latest kernel be in?
[01:19] <puff> soundray:  intel pro, ipw2200
[01:19] <linuxmonkey> true deeperror
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> BCM43 IT will be changed shortly.. thanks for the nudge
[01:20] <Sasha09> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=edgy+dell+1390
[01:20] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: the best thing i'd suggest is start learning how to use linux programs. There are quite a few that do the same thing as windows ones
[01:20] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: and in the long run, running linux you are better off using linux programs
[01:20] <tico> some one knows how to speed up ubuntu 8.04 boot time? :S
[01:20] <soundray> onthefence928: the biggest problem for me are gadgets (e.g. Tomtom GPS) that come with Windows software only. Very annoying. Some of these you can get to work with wine, but this is the place where I struggle the most.
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tico remove splash from the grub boot line
[01:21] <onthefence928> soundray: that reminds me, i need a way to update my zune >.>
[01:21] <tico> Jack_sparrow: thanks i am goint to check that brb
[01:21] <deeperror> speaking of boot time tico why doesn't my laptop show dmesg? just black until it loads gnome
[01:21] <puff> [IRC] puff on #ubuntu (+Jcefnt,lag:0) Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Important, please type /msg ubottu etiquet
[01:21] <HardDisk> [T]an1, just enable the first four then the extras
[01:21] <[T]an1> ok
[01:21] <andy56_uk> Hi all.  New to Linux and having a problem with my NIC.  Please see http://jandax.pastebin.com/f500f8238 for details.
[01:21] <soundray> puff: I'm surprised you've got issues with it -- I've got one of those and it's the best wifi device I've ever used.
[01:21] <HardDisk> then just run the command I gave you earlier sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:22] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: i've been using linux now for only a month, and have avoided wine at all costs. best to make full use of whats available, and get used to new applications. some are even better
[01:22] <HardDisk> [T]an1, it will automatically let you know of any kernel updates
[01:22] <bluefoxx> so i have a machine with two 1ghz p3  cpus, a gig of ram, and a nvidia 5200. problem: wont boot any version of linux ive tried so far
[01:22] <Uplink> !paste
[01:22] <bluefoxx> it runs win2k fine, butit keeps deleting my nvidia drivers
[01:22] <puff> soundray:  I had a few problems back when I first started (hoary? warty?) but been great ever since - until the 5/28 update.
[01:22] <bluefoxx> so i want to use linux
[01:22] <bluefoxx> , but as i said, it wont boot
[01:22] <Sasha09> what does deprecated mean?
[01:22] <HardDisk> bluefoxx, keeps deleting your nvidia drivers.....
[01:22] <rampageoberon> bluefoxx: booting cd you mean or an install?
[01:22] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: i am trying every linux app i can find i'm just planning on wiping a drive with my windows install on it and i want to make sure if i fuck it up permanatly that i won't be screwed in teh future
[01:22] <bluefoxx> which makes me wonder, do i need 64 bit for 2 32 bit CPUs?
[01:23] <HardDisk> depreciated means something made less off
[01:23] <bluefoxx> HardDisk;  yea, they uninstall on reboot
[01:23] <alan_m> !language | onthefence928
[01:23] <Sasha09> no
[01:23] <[T]an1> HardDisk: Could it just be that its not yet available in the repos?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx HAve you removed quiet and splash at the first menu and looked for the exact error
[01:23] <Sasha09> deprecated lol
[01:23] <HardDisk> bluefoxx, trolling?
[01:23] <soundray> bluefoxx: :) no, not for those
[01:23] <Uplink> can someone help me please "http://paste.ubuntu.com/19173/" java issue
[01:23] <[T]an1> all of my repos are enabled
[01:23] <HardDisk> [T]an1, check what mirror you are using.
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx 32 will be fine
[01:23] <pub> anyone currently use root-tail ?
[01:23] <D3RGPS31> Drivers Question - I'm looking for drivers for an ATI Radeon graphics card (xpress 200m) that work better than ATI's, anyone able to help me?
[01:23] <HardDisk> !ATI | D3RGPS31
[01:23] <bluefoxx> rampageoberon;  boot disks fail, and then i got it isntalled once[edubuntu server] and it wouldnt boot
[01:23] <D3RGPS31> HardDisk: thanks
[01:24] <deeperror> andy56_uk, so you can't see their shares?
[01:24] <bluefoxx> HardDisk;  i dont troll, unless im very very bored
[01:24] <HardDisk> :)
[01:24] <andy56_uk> deeperror: that's correct
[01:24] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: for most of the regular tasks i've found very good applications in linux. it is just in video encoding that i haven't and that is because i need to learn how to use mencoder properly. give it a go, there are lots of good applications in linux. you won't need many windows ones
[01:24] <soundray> D3RGPS31: have you tried the default (open source) one?
[01:24] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: i am a computer science student in college, i have an xbox that i like to stream music and videos with, and i have a zune that needs updating, will i be able to make all that work?
[01:24] <rampageoberon> bluefoxx: checked your bios settings?
[01:24] <bluefoxx> soundray;  not for what?
[01:24] <grndslm> anybody know why audacious just wouldn't want to start up anymore?? ... i'm running hardy, FWIW.
[01:24] <bluefoxx> rampageoberon;  its all fine ><
[01:24] <BCM43> Uplink: you need to upgrade java
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx Do you get the first start or install menu
[01:25] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: no idea about zune, last i read about it weren't microsoft shooing it away?
[01:25] <BCM43> grndslm: run in the terminal and see if you get any errors
[01:25] <HardDisk> grndslm, run it in terminal see the error message
[01:25] <bluefoxx> im installing to a 30gb pata disk
[01:25] <Uplink> BCM43, i thought my updater updated it automatically
[01:25] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  goes to boot menu
[01:25] <rampageoberon> bluefoxx: it really should boot any disk regardless i think
[01:25] <BCM43> Uplink: it might not for java
[01:25] <soundray> bluefoxx: you can't install amd64 on 32bit processors, no matter how many you have.
[01:25] <grndslm> BCM43, HardDisk:  Segmentation Fault!!
[01:25] <Sasha09> i still need help xD
[01:25] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  also i've noticed at least one website that fails under linux but not under windows (both in firefox) would one of those internet explorer emulator add-ons in firefox also work in linux?
[01:26] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: what does zune exactly do?
[01:26] <deeperror> andy56_uk, can you mount the share?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx From the boot menu.. ie start or install since you did not answer that directly.. what boot options have you tried
[01:26] <[T]an1> HardDisk: MainServer
[01:26] <bluefoxx> i also want ubuntu cause i *know* it will support a ir remote and tv tuner
[01:26] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: zune is like the windows version of an ipod
[01:26] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: yes it could, really depends how that website is determining your user agent
[01:26] <HardDisk> grndslm, try to rm ~/.config/audacious
[01:27] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: ah, i refuse to use ipods, and not even laid eyes on zune
[01:27] <andy56_uk> deeperror: haven't tried that.  Will have a go and let you know.
[01:27] <HardDisk> [T]an1, strange.
[01:27] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  i'm addicted to my HD based MP3 players but i got fed up with ipod
[01:27] <HardDisk> [T]an1, it would update.
[01:27] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  when i boot the cd, it asks to boot try or boot install, or boot from hard disk, i choose start and it fails
[01:27] <grndslm> HardDisk:  thank you so much... i was trying to look for its config directory!!  woot!!
[01:27] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  way way overrated teh zune is just as good and i haven't noticed any of microsofts usual tricks with it
[01:27] <BCM43> HardDisk, grndslm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmms-crossfade/+bug/208425
[01:27] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: for firefox i suppose you are referring to the fast useragent switcher addon, it could work
[01:27] <soundray> Sasha09: you need to say what the problem is
[01:27] <BCM43> HardDisk, grndslm oops, too late
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[01:28] <HardDisk> BCM43 ?
[01:28] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: fair enough
[01:28] <[T]an1> found it... its in the hardy-proposed
[01:28] <HardDisk> [T]an1, you didn't enable that?
[01:28] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  forgot what it's called but it lets you open a new tab that behaves like IE
[01:28] <Uplink> BCM43, what do i download? http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80
[01:28] <BCM43> HardDisk: that was a fix for him, but it looks like you told him how to fix it
[01:28] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: if you are not sure start with a dual boot, and then nuke windows when you are ready
[01:28] <puff> soundray: Okay, so do a fresh install on the root partition, then do a full-upgrade, then dpkg -i --forcedowngrade on the four packages related to the kernel image.
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx Other possible options include but not limited to..  noapic acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable
[01:28] <[T]an1> wasnt in my first 4
[01:28] <HardDisk> BCM43 :)
[01:28] <[T]an1> :-D
[01:28] <[T]an1> now i have it
[01:28] <HardDisk> [T]an1, I told you the extra's too
[01:28] <HardDisk> :)
[01:29] <magic_ninja> i have a couple problems, first one is that when i go to exit or restart i sit at my desktop and X doesn't close
[01:29] <ASULutz1> oh I left
[01:29] <[T]an1> my bad
[01:29] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: fast useragent switcher just makes the browser appear as whatever you tell it, not in a new tab
[01:29] <D3RGPS31> soundray: i updated form that to ATI's, and it doesn't work well (sorry for the stall)
[01:29] <BCM43> Uplink: seccond one
[01:29] <legend2440> Uplink: for frostwire install     sun-java6-jre     in synaptic
[01:29] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: i myself have xp and am dualbooting, but i haven't booted into it since i installed ubuntu
[01:29] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: ah well that works too i guess
[01:29] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  i tried that. ivetried every work around i could think of. it even failed to boot puppy. ive replaced the cabling, removed everything unnessiciary, and it still fails to run anything but windows -. -" the user guide for the mobo says it supports anything you throw at it, as it should being a server board
[01:29] <Uplink> legend2440, TY =D
[01:29] <Uplink> BCM43, ok ty
[01:30] <HardDisk> Uplink, or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:30] <soundray> puff: sorry, I was talking trash. If you do a fresh install, of course it will install the (slightly outdated) kernel that's on the installation CD.
[01:30] <HardDisk> Uplink, it will install java and a bunch of other nice goodies
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx Sounds like their doc lie
[01:30] <Uplink> HardDisk, i have it
[01:30] <rampageoberon> ubuntu-restricted-extras are great
[01:30] <[T]an1> rampageoberon: how so
[01:30] <Skyline969> Restricted extras? Like MP3 and WMA support?
[01:30] <soundray> puff: so no downgrades required. Maybe you should pin the kernel and modules packages, though
[01:30] <soundray> !pinning | puff
[01:31] <HardDisk> [T]an1, do it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx I may get shot for this.. but have you tried a copy of knoppix
[01:31] <Skyline969> That's one thing I hate about Ubuntu. No MP3 and WMA support out of the box, so to speak.
[01:31] <bluefoxx> i wanted to use it as a interconnecting box. use tuner card to save to raid array, iptv broadcast to main box, laptop, and send that to tv...
[01:31] <Uplink> legend2440, how do i install it on the synaptics?
[01:31] <HardDisk> bluefoxx, or fedora/opensuse?
[01:31] <w33d5> does anyone know of a good duplicate image finder using exif data?
[01:31] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  no can do >. >
[01:31] <bluefoxx> no burner on this laptop
[01:31] <soundray> Skyline969: you know why that is though?
[01:31] <HardDisk> Skyline969, because they are not open source
[01:31] <Skyline969> Legal issues, right soundray?
[01:31] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: please remove  youself from this channel
[01:31] <rampageoberon> [T]an1: installs a lot of useful things, playing restricted media (mp3 etc) and openjdk
[01:31] <[T]an1> HardDisk: that sounds a lot like the time someone told me to do an rm -rf /
[01:31] <[T]an1> :-D
[01:31] <bluefoxx> and my main is down after installing a new heatsink on a new cpu. heatsink killed the mobo
[01:31] <Baron1984> I'm holding off on Opensuse until Nvidia has support for their X.org
[01:31] <HardDisk> [T]an1, lol
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BCM43 I should.. Ok.. time me out
[01:32] <soundray> Skyline969: that's one way to put it.
[01:32] <legend2440> Uplink: easier way is type in terminal    sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:32] <Skyline969> But there is a way to get MP3 and WMA support on Ubuntu, right?
[01:32] <[T]an1> Do it!!
[01:32] <bluefoxx> so i need to lurk in my local[ish] recycling center for a new pga 478 mobo with the specs im after ><
[01:32] <soundray> Skyline969: yes
[01:32] <onthefence928> rampageoberon:  i am currently under a dual boot but my ubuntu install had a mind of it's own in terms of partitions  so i don't ahve as much room here as i'd like, space-wise. but for some reaosn the only way i've been able to see my windows partitions in any kind of disk partition manager is when i'm under windows , so i may have to wipe windows to get more room, and i don't want to get screwed and wipe my windows drive never to get i
[01:32] <HardDisk> Skyline969, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:32] <Skyline969> Perfect. Thanks HardDisk.
[01:32] <HardDisk> Skyline969, www.medibuntu.org
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx What part of the world are you in?
[01:33] <BCM43> !wma | Skyline969
[01:33] <HardDisk> [T]an1, add the medibuntu repository as well
[01:33] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  canada[vancouver specifically]
[01:33] <[T]an1> will do... sounds cool
[01:33] <HardDisk> !medibuntu
[01:33] <[T]an1> i like this repo stuff
[01:33] <tico> Jack_Sparrow: thanks very much!!! the boot time now it's only seconds, after erase "splash"
[01:33] <jebus> Whats a good webcam program to take pictures with
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx Ah.. BC  cool place..  If you were 1500 miles south I'd give you one
[01:33] <HardDisk> jebus, cheese
[01:33] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: ubuntu can read and write fine to windows partitions (using ntfs-3g) plus gparted can view NTFS partitions
[01:33] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  >. >
[01:33] <w33d5> does anyone know of a good duplicate image finder using exif data?
[01:33] <BCM43> !webcam | jebus
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tico glad I got one right today
[01:34] <HardDisk> BCM43, I'm way ahead of you :)
[01:34] <linuxmonkey> Jack_Sparrow: you got more than 1
[01:34] <tico> Jack_Sparrow: hahaha
[01:34] <jebus> BCM43 mywebcam works
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:34] <HardDisk> jebus, cheese
[01:34] <HardDisk> I told you
[01:34] <jebus> i just want a progrm to take pictures with
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jebus try xsane
[01:35] <soundray> !info cheese | jebus
[01:35] <Uplink> legend2440, ty
[01:35] <Skyline969> It's been 50 minutes and my desktop STILL hasn't started from the Live CD.
[01:35] <soundray> HardDisk: sounds like an avoided swearword ;)
[01:35] <BCM43> jebus: ah, i missed program, sorry
[01:35] <HardDisk> soundray, haha
[01:35] <puff> soundray: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:35] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  once i get my main box online again[looking for a mobo in freegeek when i dont have school lol] then i will try those, until then, i suppose i am stuck with [evil evil] windows >. >
[01:35] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: as for space constraints, it is upto you how to partition the drive. you have full control there and can choose whatever you want
[01:35] <bluefoxx> thanks for the help :/
[01:35] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, cheese > xsane
[01:35] <ben34> whats best to use for ipod syc
[01:35] <ben34> sync
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefoxx socket 478's are easy to find.. check thrift shops
[01:36] <HardDisk> ben34, gtkpod, amarok, exaile
[01:36] <kevjava> ben34, banshee used to work for me.
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk I am aware, I thought he was looking for quick simple and already probably installed
[01:36] <ben34> used to..../
[01:36] <bluefoxx> Jack_Sparrow;  thrift shops sell me the hwole computer and overpriced at that. i can get a [once] top of the line s478 for <$10 at freegeek, and i will know it works too!
[01:36] <Skyline969> Actually, I think I'm gonna bring my laptop into the room here. Can someone Direct Chat me and walk me through as to how I can start the Live CD and get it to work?
[01:37] <bluefoxx> in the mean time i have taken to dumpster diving for computers ><
[01:37] <HardDisk> Skyline969, boot from the livecd F6 to edit boot menu, remove quite splash -- and enter
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[01:38] <Skyline969> Remove three things, "quiet" "splash" "--"?
[01:38] <HardDisk> Skyline969, as Jack_Sparrow said.
[01:38] <Skyline969> Ah, alright.
[01:38] <Skyline969> I'll just copy and paste that.
[01:38] <HardDisk> good idea :)
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:38] <Skyline969> Or not. =P It won't let me block it to copy. No matter, print screen works too.
[01:38] <theFATMAN> how do I install a GRUB splash theme?
[01:38] <subsume|work> After an upgrade to 7.10 my wifi nor my network card work. the NIC card may have been broken, but the WIFI doesn't show up.
[01:39] <Skyline969> Alright, be right back. Gonna emergency shutdown my laptop and bring it here.
[01:39] <speek> hey
[01:39] <subsume|work> Network shows no devices (except a telephone modem)
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> theFATMAN There are ways, but grub isnt glitzy like lilo in that regard
[01:39] <HardDisk> theFATMAN, www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html
[01:39] <speek> i've started to play around with version control, and i was wondering what people had to say about different forms of version control
[01:39] <bluefoxx> i suppose i should just build a new machine on 775 tech, but its still overpriced, and i like my new 478 cpu i found[3.2ghz 2001 intel p4 unlocked multi and ht tech, $10]
[01:39] <speek> a la mercurial vs git vs svn vs cvs
[01:40] <HardDisk> svn
[01:40] <Kryptt_> Anyone knows if theres an Postal 2 patch for linux?
[01:40] <theFATMAN> Jack_Sparrow: just curious, I found a nice, simple one on gnome-look.org
[01:40] <speek> why svn?
[01:40] <jrib> speek: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:40] <HardDisk> dunno I feel it's just faster and easier
[01:40] <Skyline969> Let's hope it loads more than just the desktop background this time.
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> theFATMAN That page that was linked should be all you need
[01:40] <speek> jrib, sure, sorry about that
[01:40] <HardDisk> speek, you could always ppa.launchpad it as well
[01:41] <Sasha09> hi
[01:41] <theFATMAN> HardDisk: thanks, i'm checking it out now, do you guys have experience with these?
[01:41] <Sasha09> i got a bit of progress on wifi
[01:41] <Sasha09> but i am stuck:
[01:41] <HardDisk> theFATMAN, don't worry experiment :)
[01:41] <jebus> HardDisk thank you for the good cam program
[01:41] <HardDisk> theFATMAN, you can't break linux if you mess up the grub theme
[01:41] <Skyline969> So remove quiet and splash? What will that do, really?
[01:41] <theFATMAN> HardDisk: lol, last time i did that, i ended up with a white screen problem  ;)
[01:41] <HardDisk> np
[01:41] <Sasha09> sasha@Visty:~/bcm43xx$ lshw -C network
[01:41] <Sasha09> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[01:41] <Sasha09>   *-network
[01:41] <Sasha09>        description: Network controller
[01:41] <Sasha09>        product: BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[01:41] <FloodBot1> Sasha09: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <Bhavesh> Wi-Fi PCMCIA card recommendation? the one that i have has issues associating with AP
[01:42] <mvinsc> hello
[01:42] <HardDisk> Skyline969, it will show you what's being loaded, no splash screen
[01:42] <theFATMAN> ttyl
[01:42] <HardDisk> theFATMAN, hahah :D
[01:42] <soundray> subsume|work: look at lspci output to see if the cards are seen by the kernel. If they are there, you can look through dmesg output for indications why driver loading fails.
[01:42] <Skyline969> Alright. Now checking.
[01:42] <swhitt> how do I see where files are installed to for a particular package in aptitude
[01:42] <Sasha09> i think maybe the problem is the *network DISABLED line
[01:42] <subsume|work> soundray: could you give me some more specific help on looking at lspci output?
[01:42] <Starnestommy> swhitt: dpkg -L <package-name>
[01:42] <Skyline969> That's a lot of text.... =P
[01:43] <HardDisk> Skyline969, yep
[01:43] <Skyline969> Aha? Seems to have stopped here.
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 It will stop at the error.. making it easier, or it will flag it red
[01:43] <mvinsc> does anyone know how to mount a SD card in the media slot on my laptop?
[01:43] <Skyline969> And another error....
[01:43] <soundray> subsume|work: have a look at the output from just 'lspci'. It  should be easy enough to recognize your network devices.
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mvinsc Most built in card readers aer propietary and hard to get going.
[01:43] <Sasha09> Is there a way to enable the wireless?
[01:44] <soundray> subsume|work: I assume they are PCI cards?
[01:44] <subsume|work> soundray: Cool. Seems to be there. There is a Network controller
[01:44] <j1solutions> hello all
[01:44] <cdavis> I can get my system to completely freeze and cannot figure out what is causing it. Is there a way to have it log to a file instead of console kernel panic type stuff?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 some errors like fd0 are not a big deal
[01:44] <soundray> !wifi | Sasha09
[01:44] <Skyline969> Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -256756235 ns) and then end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[01:44] <soundray> subsume|work: just the Ethernet one?
[01:44] <bluefoxx> mvinsc;  it should show up on the desktop when you insert it, or it will be in the "computer" partof the file browser
[01:44] <subsume|work> soundray: RaLink RT2400 902.11g Cardbus/mini_PCI
[01:44] <subsume|work> soundray: I don't see the ethernet one.
[01:44] <RiotingPacifist> flash really sucks at rendering full screen (worse than it did in 7.10) even without compiz!, im on an ati card can i add module donotsuckatflash or something to xorg?
[01:45] <Skyline969> And now it says loop: module loaded
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 be patient there will be two fd0 errors then it will continue
[01:45] <Sasha09> i am already looking at the wifi docs >>
[01:45] <Skyline969> And then something about squashfs.
[01:45] <mvinsc> bluefoxx, cannot mount then it shows up and i have no permissions
[01:45] <soundray> subsume|work: okay. What do you want to do, look for the wired Ethernet device or make wireless work?
[01:45] <CaptainMorgan> anyone ever have a pscan2 attack ? anything ubuntu related? apparently it's a port scanner and let's just say I'm not happy at the moment
[01:45] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  i think ralinks work pretty well out of the box[or i found] jsut find a wifi manager for ubuntu.
[01:45] <Skyline969> The screen went blank, then returned. I'm assuming that's normal.
[01:45] <bluefoxx> mvinsc;  cause it is windows file format
[01:45] <j1solutions> hey Rioting Pass-A-Fist,  I like that username
[01:45] <subsume|work> soundray: I'm guessing the Ethernet device is dead.... making wifi work would be cool
[01:46] <Skyline969> There, says it's setting the keymap and whatnot. Should load fine now.
[01:46] <bluefoxx> mvinsc;  you need sudo to access it, unless you run chown/chmod on it
[01:46] <subsume|work> bluefoxx: =( I tried it but it didn't detect the device.
[01:46] <puff> soundray: So if I pin just the kernel package for the kernel version I want, will the other packages (e.g. ehaders, etc) that the kernel depends on be held back?
[01:46] <soundray> subsume|work: RaLink devices tend to be a bit troublesome
[01:46] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  was it in there when you installed?
[01:46] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: you ever use VMware?
[01:46] <ghost> what is the ARCH linux irc channel?
[01:46] <subsume|work> bluefoxx: yes, it was there. that's how I installed.
[01:46] <Sasha09> i need to enable Wireless I think
[01:46] <Bhavesh> bbl
[01:47] <Sasha09> but i don't know how!!
[01:47] <Starnestommy> ghost: #archlinux
[01:47] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: at first yes, tried ubuntu on a virtual machine under XP
[01:47] <ghost> thanks
[01:47] <Skyline969> Blank screen now... got the cursor. It looks like it's loading exactly the way it was before I removed those two words from the command line.
[01:47] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  weird. did you check the forums about the specific model?
[01:47] <subsume|work> soundray: is there a shot I can give it?
[01:47] <soundray> puff: I don't know, I haven't used pinning in the way you intend to. Perhaps it will be enough to set the kernel package to hold -- there's a command in synaptic
[01:47] <ghost> is it going to be radically different than ubuntu?
[01:47] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: loved it, so did a proper install with dualboot (which i have not used since :))
[01:47] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: why didn't you just use wubi?
[01:47] <Skyline969> It played the startup sound and now I see the cursor and a light brown screen.
[01:47] <Skyline969> As usual.
[01:47] <Sasha09> i need help -__-
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 give it a couple miutes there just to be sure then try those other tow additions to the command line
[01:48] <Skyline969> Alright.
[01:48] <HardDisk> !help | Sasha09
[01:48] <Skyline969> I hate doing this emergency shutdown stuff to my laptop though.
[01:48] <Starnestommy> ghost: a lot.  It's still GNU/Linux like Ubuntu, but is desidged differently
[01:48] <soundray> subsume|work: first, look for anything in dmesg that relates to the device. A useful search is for 'rt'
[01:48] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: wubi is good in some cases, though i didn't want to use it after reading about it
[01:48] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: and how do i go about install everything i need to run a windows XP VM? the VMware website is retarded
[01:48] <Starnestommy> *designed
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 livecd doesnt do what shutdown on a hd install can do
[01:48] <HardDisk> Skyline969, did you add the other lines Jack_Sparrow told you?
[01:48] <subsume|work> bluefoxx:  is this a sick joke? http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/88486/index.html
[01:49] <Sasha09> okay ubottu, can you tell me how to enable wireless?
[01:49] <HardDisk> Skyline969, I would like to suggest to use the alternate cd
[01:49] <rampageoberon> Well install VMware, create a new virtual machine mount the cd if oyu have an iso, or stick the ubuntu cd in and start the VM
[01:49] <subsume|work> ^ leads to a blank page!
[01:49] <Uplink> where do i put frostwire skins?
[01:49] <HardDisk> !wifi | Sasha09
[01:49] <rampageoberon> Well install VMware, create a new virtual machine mount the cd if oyu have an iso, or stick the ubuntu cd in and start the VM onthefence928
[01:49] <CaptainMorgan> !anti-virus
[01:49] <Skyline969> I didn't add the other lines yet. I tried removing the two first and now I'm letting it start up for a bit.
[01:49] <CaptainMorgan> !virus
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 those two adds are quite common changes
[01:49] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  <waits for internet to load>
[01:49] <HardDisk> CaptainMorgan, do you need an antivirus? check out ClamAv
[01:49] <soundray> puff: it's Package-Lock Version
[01:49] <HardDisk> if you need to scan a windows drive
[01:50] <[T]an1> anyone every paired their bluetooth headset with ubuntu?
[01:50] <subsume|work> bluefoxx: click 'full story'
[01:50] <rdz> !xfonts
[01:50] <Skyline969> Please run by me the two additions I have to add again? Sorry for the annoyances, but I appreciate the patience.
[01:50] <HardDisk> [T]an1, always I even have my phone controlling my mouse
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !bluetooth
[01:50] <HardDisk> [T]an1, check out the Blueman Project
[01:50] <rdz> !artwiz
[01:50] <[T]an1> i am following this guide and not getting very far: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[01:50] <HardDisk> nah forget that link Jack_Sparrow
[01:50] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: i'd suggest a proper install rather than VM too, i got sick of the VM in 5 days and did a full install
[01:50] <HardDisk> Blueman Project
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Another old link
[01:51] <[T]an1> what I am running into is when i run btsco -v i get an error
[01:51] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  it wont load:0
[01:51] <[T]an1> pasting the error....
[01:51] <subsume|work> bluefoxx: its blank.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk LEts fix the factoid while we are here
[01:51] <HardDisk> [T]an1, blueman.tuxfamily.org
[01:51] <Uplink> where do i put frostwire skins?
[01:51] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, I've never done it before.
[01:51] <[T]an1> http://pastebin.ca/1044419
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk What is the best link for bluetooth
[01:51] <onthefence928> rampageoberon: yes well i looked online and it seems the only way to run teh zune software under linux so far is to use VMware
[01:51] <Skyline969> Right now I can hear the CD spinning madly in the drive and the CPU light is almost constantly green, meaning it is doing SOMETHING. But still, nothing gets done.
[01:52] <subsume|work> soundray: from the internet "after a quick google I discovered that everybody was having this problem and support for this chipset had been broken in 7.10; " ... "only solution I found was to build the kernel bits and bobs manually from serialmonkey just like the previous situation in Fedora!"
[01:52] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, well there is an application that does everything blueman.tuxfamily.org
[01:52] <subsume|work> soundray: what does that mean?
[01:52] <tzon1> can anyone offer me some insight into zenity and listboxes ?
[01:52] <haygus> hi
[01:52] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  check ubuntuforums.org for support/step by step then...im going to fire up my games again >. >[myst masterpeice edition XD]
[01:52] <haygus> how i restart apache ?
[01:52] <[T]an1> ok, doing the blueman way
[01:52] <[T]an1> sudo wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/blueman/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/blueman.list
[01:52] <tzon1> haygus: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:52] <Pretto> haygus, apache2ctl restart
[01:52] <rampageoberon> onthefence928: oh ok, well doesn't affect me as i choose to stay far away from zune
[01:52] <bluefoxx> subsume|work;  good luck anyways, hope you can get it going ><
[01:53] <CaptainMorgan> my /etc/motd banner page for SSH keeps changing upon a system reboot... how can I get this banner to stay static ?
[01:53] <haygus> apache2ctl restart or etc/init.d/apache restart ?
[01:53] <subsume|work> thx =)
[01:53] <xTOGx> hai guyz
[01:53] <ChunkyKs> never use apach restart
[01:53] <HardDisk> onthefence928, Virtualbox is better because it does USB 2.0
[01:53] <ChunkyKs> apache graceful is your friend
[01:53] <soundray> subsume|work: it's not as terrible as it sounds, and I think you should do some more diagnostics before you decide to compile your own driver.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !find blueman
[01:53] <HardDisk> ?
[01:53] <haygus> ty
[01:54] <Skyline969> Should it have at least loaded the background image for the desktop by now?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk That page says that blueman is in the repos
[01:54] <subsume|work> soundray: d'ok. tail dmesg rt ?
[01:54] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, it's a different app
[01:54] <tzon1> ChunkyKs: what's wrong with init.d?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 try with those command changes I gave you
[01:54] <Skyline969> Please give them to me again. I got the ones to remove.
[01:54] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, this is the Blueman Project
[01:55] <tonewhy> hi i was wondering how i can setup a dual boot system with linux on one hardrive and windows on other
[01:55] <soundray> subsume|work: but to answer your question, the serialmonkey project develops Linux drivers for Ralink Tech wifi cards. You can go to their site and download the latest driver source that hasn't made it into any official kernels yet.
[01:55] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, sorry! I just checked
[01:55] <subsume|work> soundray: computer is a tombstone without a network card =)
[01:55] <onthefence928> HardDisk: and i can run teh zune software with it?
[01:55] <HardDisk> onthefence928, yes sir.
[01:55] <puff> soundray: I'm reinstallnig, and /home is on a separate partition.  I'm copying dpkg.log into my home directory so I can see what packages I installed.  Anything else from / that I should back up?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk Per the link  (The deb packages in the repository are already patched, I will also make merges with official ubuntu packages)
[01:55] <onthefence928> harddisk: thank you
[01:55] <HardDisk> onthefence928, I have one as a gift.
[01:55] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: the /etc/motd just points to /var/run/motd, so you need to figure out how to change that
[01:56] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, sounds good
[01:56] <Uplink> where do i put frostwire skins?
[01:56] <soundray> subsume|work: 'dmesg | grep -C 2 rt'
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk We can look at it more when I am less tired
[01:56] <Skyline969> It showed a grey box at the top where the top menu bar would go, but it quickly disappeared.
[01:56] <onthefence928> HardDisk: cool can you point me toa  tutorial to get it running?
[01:56] <soundray> !clone | puff
[01:56] <[T]an1> HarDisk: holy crap thats cool!!
[01:56] <[T]an1> thanks
[01:56] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, well I use it and wrote a small article on linux-noob.com
[01:56] <tonewhy> can anyone tell me how i can setup a dual boot on diferent hard drives? i alreaady have ubuntu on 1 but i can't install windows on the other
[01:56] <peking> mportant, please type /msg ubottu etiquette | Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | May 13: OpenSSL/SSH Vulnerability see: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2'
[01:56] <peking> mportant, please type /msg ubottu etiquette | Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | May 13: OpenSSL/SSH Vulnerability see: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2'
[01:56] <ChunkyKs> tzon1: you can use init.d for it, but you should still restart apache using "graceful" instead of "restart"
[01:56] <peking> mportant, please type /msg ubottu etiquette | Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | May 13: OpenSSL/SSH Vulnerability see: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2'
[01:56] <FloodBot1> peking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <HardDisk> onthefence928, yes give me a second
[01:57] <Uplink> where do i put frostwire skins?
[01:57] <tonewhy> can anyone tell me how i can setup a dual boot on diferent hard drives? i alreaady have ubuntu on 1 but i can't install windows on the other hardrive
[01:57] <ChunkyKs> graceful tells apache to stop accepting new requests and finish serving the ones it has, then it restarts it
[01:57] <HardDisk> Uplink, please do not repeat, check the frostwire website.
[01:57] <Uplink> HardDisk, i did
[01:57] <Skyline969> Alright. What will the noapic acpi=off do?
[01:57] <soundray> puff: if you have any databases, back them up separately. Also backup /etc if you've made manual configurations in there that could be useful for referring to.
[01:57] <HardDisk> is there a .frostwire directory?
[01:57] <SebNaitsabes> yes
[01:58] <SebNaitsabes> should be
[01:58] <SebNaitsabes> as a hidden folder in your home folder
[01:58] <rampageoberon> tonewhy: its usually easier installing windows first and then ubuntu for dual booting
[01:58] <HardDisk> onthefence928, first go to www.virtualbox.org and download virtualbox it will take you to the sun website, choose your ubuntu deb and download and install it
[01:58] <Skyline969> Aha! The background image finally loaded.... progress is VERY slow in the loading department.
[01:59] <subsume|work> soundray: looked carefully and didn't see anything.
[01:59] <tonewhy> rampageoberon, but i don't want to erase ubuntu now, can i stil do it
[01:59] <xTOGx> ok, so i've got stuff installed. how do i get the gui to come up in xubuntu?  all i see after login is nathan@ubuntu:~$
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 Progress is progress
[01:59] <rampageoberon> tonewhy: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm <-- have a look at that
[01:59] <onthefence928> HardDisk: i just got it from teh add/remove utility on ubuntu is that good?
[01:59] <Skyline969> Yes, progress IS progress, but I got this far this quickly without removing those two commands from the line.
[01:59] <soundray> subsume|work: how many lines of output did you get?
[01:59] <subsume|work> soundray: about 70 i'd say
[01:59] <Zaiden> I have files in my trash that won't delete no matter what I do. It always gives me a "Permission Denied" message
[01:59] <HardDisk> onthefence928, no because it doesn't support usb 2.0
[01:59] <HardDisk> onthefence928, it will be really slow
[02:00] <[T]an1> HardDrive: ok, so how do i set this to receive audio from my laptop... i changed the device in my mixer to BT Headset (Alsa Mixer) and get no sound
[02:00] <tonewhy> rampageoberon, ok
[02:00] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: do alt-ctrl-f7
[02:00] <Azih> doken
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 You may still end up using the alternate cd
[02:00] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: does that bring up the gui?
[02:00] <xTOGx> nope, doesn't look like it responds at all to it
[02:00] <soundray> subsume|work: any output from 'lsmod | grep rt'?
[02:00] <HardDisk> [T]an1, is it paired correctly?
[02:00] <Skyline969> What do you mean, the alternate CD?
[02:00] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: startx perhaps/
[02:00] <puff> ubottu: !automate
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 text based install, no live gui
[02:00] <[T]an1> HardDisk: it looks like it
[02:00] <subsume|work> soundray: some, but none seemingly related to the issue
[02:01] <Skyline969> If it's a CD different than the Live CD, I don't have it, nor do I have the internet connection speed to download it.
[02:01] <altnickname> ok I need some help with a external drive that wont mount and I tried this after I made sure the ntfs-3g was and is installed  sudo ntfsfix /dev/[DEVICENAME]
[02:01] <altnickname> Where [DEVICENAME] is the name of the drive (i.e. sda1)  and not working says unknown command
[02:01] <bullium> Zaiden, where where the files originally located?
[02:01] <xTOGx> -bash: startx: command not found
[02:01] <[T]an1> the icon on the right side of the blueman window says caonnected
[02:01] <subsume|work> soundray: 5 lines. none obviously wifi related
[02:01] <Skyline969> Still, is startup gonna be THIS slow on my laptop once Ubuntu is installed?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 It is available for free..  it takes awhile.. but they mail it to you
[02:01] <moccuo> how do i install gvim in ubuntu? do i want vim-gtk? or vim-gnome?
[02:01] <HardDisk> [T]an1, ok, and bonded?
[02:01] <Zaiden> bullium: I think they were on the desktop, copied from a flashdrive or a CD
[02:01] <Skyline969> I know Jack_Sparrow, that's how I got my Live CD.
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 no...   how much ram is in that box
[02:01] <soundray> subsume|work: is your wifi card PCMCIA?
[02:02] <Skyline969> 128 megs in this laptop.
[02:02] <[T]an1> HardDisk: It does not say bonded... but the button at the top says unbond now instead of bond
[02:02] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: not sure what the command for the graphical manager in xubuntu is, maybe someone else will know
[02:02] <Skyline969> Well below the requirements.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 Might as well stop there...
[02:02] <[T]an1> should it show me that its bonded in the list?
[02:02] <subsume|work> soundray: I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
[02:02] <HardDisk> lol Skyline969 no wonder :)
[02:02] <xTOGx> thanks, i'll check xubuntu, then i'll check back here in a bit
[02:02] <HardDisk> [T]an1, yes
[02:02] <xTOGx> thanks rampageoberon
[02:02] <Skyline969> But hey, the old junker I installed Ubuntu on had 128 megs as well, with an even slower CPU.
[02:02] <soundray> subsume|work: hidden inside your machine?
[02:02] <HardDisk> [T]an1, oh ok nvm
[02:02] <linuxkrn> hey all, can you disable cdrom/dvd media check for gxine?  Mine seems to take like 10-15 seconds each startup, during which gxine is unresponsive.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 You are probably sharing video ram off that 128
[02:02] <HardDisk> [T]an1, it's bonded
[02:02] <moccuo> how do i install gvim in ubuntu? do i want vim-gtk or vim-gnome? something else?
[02:02] <subsume|work> soundray: its a card, oh yeah. sorry.
[02:02] <[T]an1> last seen: says none
[02:02] <Zaiden> says something about a backend when I try to edit the files
[02:02] <Skyline969> And it still loaded the Live CD desktop.
[02:02] <CaptainMorgan> thanks rampageoberon ;)
[02:02] <rampageoberon> np xTOGx
[02:03] <rampageoberon> moccuo: vim-gnome
[02:03] <HardDisk> [T]an1, in addition you will need to sudo apt-get install bluez-btsco
[02:03] <Fishscene> Hi. I'm working off a live-session CD. How do I mount my external USB drive?
[02:03] <[T]an1> i unbonded it and bonded it again. it sayd bonded successfull.
[02:03] <soundray> subsume|work: open a separate terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'. In the other terminal, try 'sudo modprobe rt2400pci'
[02:03] <Skyline969> Ha! The Examples icon loaded! Progress... sweet, sweet progress. =P
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 Was it the same version of ubuntu?  and how much ram is being diverted from that 128 to be used for video.  Did the other machine have onboard video or dedicated card
[02:03] <[T]an1> ok... gonna go get bluez-btsco
[02:03] <bullium> Zaiden, hmm maybe a process has them locked or something, has your system been rebooted since you trashed them?
[02:03] <HardDisk> [T]an1, then sudo modprobe snd-bt-sco
[02:03] <[T]an1> i think i already got it though...
[02:04] <[T]an1> yeah, i did that.
[02:04] <soundray> subsume|work: any errors in the tail output?
[02:04] <Zaiden> bullium: Yes, more than once
[02:04] <HardDisk> it should work then
[02:04] <Skyline969> The other machine had a seperate card. It was the same version of Ubuntu (this exact same CD), and I don't know how much RAM is being diverted to be used for video.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 with only 128 minimize how much ram is diverted
[02:04] <Skyline969> How, Jack_Sparrow?
[02:04] <HardDisk> [T]an1, test it in skype
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bios
[02:05] <subsume|work> soundray: the first command gave me things, but nothing seemingly related to the hardware....
[02:05] <[T]an1> never used skype
[02:05] <Skyline969> I don't even know how to access the BIOS setup on this laptop.
[02:05] <subsume|work> soundray: and mobprobe isn't found
[02:05] <soundray> subsume|work: nothing happened in the tail output when you run the mo*d*probe?
[02:05] <Skyline969> I know it says something about a network service boot by pressing F12....
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 Something you should investigate
[02:05] <Fishscene> How do I mount an external USB drive?
[02:05] <Zaiden> When I try to delete the files inside the folder, it gives me a message saying "Not supported by backend"
[02:05] <subsume|work> soundray: modprobe, I meant that sorry.
[02:05] <[T]an1> while skype is installing... can i use that with asterisk?
[02:05] <altnickname> Normally, Ubuntu will mount your NTFS drive automatically. If it doesn't, it means the logfile for the drive is unclean (which means the drive was not unmounted correctly, i.e. not shut down correctly.) To mount it, there are a few steps you must take.
[02:06] <HardDisk> Fishscene, plug it in
[02:06] <bullium> Zaiden, can you move them back to the desktop?
[02:06] <onthefence928> HardDisk: ok so i'm downloading it now, what settings do i choose for teh sun downaloader?
[02:06] <subsume|work> soundray: might modprobe not be on my PATH?
[02:06] <Skyline969> I know it's something I should investigate, but I don't even have the documentation for this old thing. It was given to me through my school.
[02:06] <Fishscene> HardDisk, it's not mounting, I ftried to force it to mount in the GUI and I got a message saying it's not supposed to show errors in the GUI. (which I found amusing. :P )
[02:06] <HardDisk> [T]an1, I'm not sure, I haven't used asterisk, some applications don't universally work the same, for example Gizmo has some issues with USB microphones, whereas Skype is ok.
[02:06] <Zaiden> Yes, and all the files are there
[02:06] <soundray> subsume|work: that would be extremely unusual. Did you mistype
[02:06] <soundray> ?
[02:06] <rampageoberon> altnickname: when mounting ntfs drives make sure if its usb you do safely remove hardware, and shut down windows properly
[02:06] <HardDisk> onthefence928, choose ubuntu
[02:07] <[T]an1> HardDisk: makes sense
[02:07] <subsume|work> soundray: I swear. 'sudo modprobe ... '
[02:07] <HardDisk> Fishscene, what does dmesg say?
[02:07] <xTOGx> the install wouldn't finish the "install software" bit.  now that i've got it running, is there any way i can finish that?
[02:07] <Fishscene> dmesg?
[02:07] <[T]an1> HardDisk: my intent is to use this with a softphone and asterisk.
[02:07] <[T]an1> so hopefully that is the case
[02:07] <HardDisk> Fishscene, run it in terminal
[02:07] <onthefence928> HardDisk: i did and now it's asking me to set a bunch of options and proxies for the sun download manager
[02:07] <soundray> subsume|work: it's normally in /sbin/
[02:07] <subsume|work> soundray: found it in sbin
[02:08] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: what do you mean?
[02:08] <HardDisk> onthefence928, don't use the download manager download it directly.
[02:08] <Skyline969> Jack, do you mind if I direct chat you so we can work through this more quickly?
[02:08] <Fishscene> I don't know the device name in terminal. I assumed "/dev/sda1" but it said the device was already mounted on /target
[02:08] <soundray> subsume|work: so 'sudo /sbin/modprobe rt2400pci'
[02:08] <HardDisk> it's 4am in Egypt a few more minutes and I have to go to bed sorry folks.
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 best to keep it in channel as I am trying to do some other work as well
[02:08] <xTOGx> rampageoberon well, i can't get the gui to load.  maybe it's not there?
[02:08] <Skyline969> Alright.
[02:08] <rogerdpenguin> could someone guide me through the ubuntu installation?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk Goodnight
[02:08] <rampageoberon> I noticed once when i unmounted a usb drive i got a notification its safe to remove hardware, but never seen it after, any ideas? its not critical
[02:09] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <rogerdpenguin> jack_sparrow: could you guide me through the ubuntu installation?
[02:09] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, not yet :D
[02:09] <Skyline969> Well, I remember seeing something about it being either 2 MB or 8 MB of VRAM when I was checking it in Windows....
[02:09] <altnickname> well i thought I did heck been useing the other harddrive and just put this in there and tuirned it on and thats the message I got how do I fix it
[02:09] <HardDisk> rogerdpenguin, www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron
[02:09] <subsume|work> sudo modprobe rt2500pci 'FATAL' module rt2500pci not found
[02:09] <bullium> rampageoberon, you know how to install software but install the os?
[02:09] <subsume|work> soundray: ^
[02:09] <rogerdpenguin> thanks
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> rogerdpenguin Just ask your questions someone will answer, I am about to try and eat dinner
[02:09] <soundray> rogerdpenguin: the ubuntu installer will guide you
[02:09] <rampageoberon> altnickname: boot into windows and shut the drives properly i think
[02:09] <rogerdpenguin> ok
[02:09] <rogerdpenguin> still
[02:09] <soundray> subsume|work: so 'sudo /sbin/modprobe rt2*4*00pci'
[02:09] <HardDisk> ok I have to go sorry people for leaving you :D
[02:10] <rampageoberon> bullium: sorry what?
[02:10] <rogerdpenguin> im a bit unsure about installing and partioning
[02:10] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, it's been a pleasure buddy
[02:10] <Skyline969> See you, HardDisk!
[02:10] <HardDisk> salam
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk As always
[02:10] <Fishscene> Not a problem, thanks anyway, HardDisk
[02:10] <HardDisk> later guys
[02:10] <onthefence928> HardDisk: is teher anything else i need to know before you go?
[02:10] <HardDisk> and remember to support us in #ubuntu-eg :D
[02:10] <[T]an1> HardDisk... thanks
[02:10] <subsume|work> soundray: not found
[02:10] <xTOGx> rampageoberon do i have to do that with the cd? i think maybe it was the cd was bad, and that's why it didn't go
[02:10] <HardDisk> onthefence928, uhh....I don't think so
[02:10] <bullium> rampageoberon, you said you wanted a guide for the ubuntu installation, but told someone else how to install a package. I wasn't being a jerk just curious
[02:10] <soundray> rogerdpenguin: do you want a dual-boot system?
[02:11] <soundray> bullium: you're mistaking rampageoberon for rogerdpenguin
[02:11] <HardDisk> I'll see you guys tomorrow
[02:11] <rampageoberon> bullium: hmm, i didn't say i wanted a guide for an installation?
[02:11] <Skyline969> As I said Jack_Sparrow, it said something on Windows about there being 2 MB or 8 MB of VRAM (don't remember which). Oh, and it's loaded the Install icon now. All it needs to load is the two bars at the top and bottom.
[02:11] <bullium> soundray, I just caught that thank you
[02:11] <HardDisk> ciao babes
[02:11] <Fishscene> How do I view a list of drives?
[02:11] <bullium> rampageoberon, sorry my mistake...
[02:11] <onthefence928> oh jesus, my taskbars just dissapeared
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 cool..
[02:11] <soundray> subsume|work: what kernel do you have? uname -r
[02:11] <bullium> rampageoberon, mixed u and another user
[02:11] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: it could be a bad cd, the aptitude command will try and do it over the netwrok if you have an internet connection
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Skyline969 Im off to make dinner...
[02:11] <onthefence928> after file search crashed and then teh force quit also crashed
[02:11] <rampageoberon> bullium: no worries :)
[02:11] <subsume|work> soundray: 2.6.22-14-386
[02:11] <xTOGx> ok, thanks rampageoberon
[02:12] <Skyline969> Alright Jack_Sparrow, thanks for all your help. Take care!
[02:12] <Uplink> whats the command to copy a file to a directory?
[02:12] <Ahadiel> Uplink, cp file destination
[02:12] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, tomorrow I wanted to talk to you about something ubuntu related, so expect a pm from me ok?
[02:12] <xTOGx> all it's saying is please insert cd...do i have to have the cd in still, even if i want it to download?
[02:12] <Uplink> Ahadiel,
[02:12] <Uplink> uplink@HP-Pavilion:~/.frostwire/themes$ cp /home/uplink/Downloads/black_theme.skin
[02:12] <danbhfive> xTOGx: you may need to change your sources, and remove the cd
[02:12] <soundray> subsume|work: do you happen to know why you are on a -386 kernel?
[02:13] <xTOGx> how do i change my sources?
[02:13] <Ahadiel> Uplink, You didn't specify a destination.
[02:13] <subsume|work> soundray: maybe my computer is very old?
[02:13] <Uplink> Ahadiel, i am on the destination
[02:13] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: its the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <Ahadiel> Uplink, then use . for current directory
[02:13] <xTOGx> bwah?
[02:13] <Uplink> Ahadiel, SWEEt, TY =D
[02:13] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <Ahadiel> Uplink, It's handy, . is current directory, and .. is parent
[02:13] <xTOGx> well, give it a minute.  i'm trying it again from cd
[02:14] <soundray> subsume|work: that doesn't explain it -- ubuntu normally installs -generic onto even the oldest machines
[02:14] <Uplink> Ahadiel, doesnt work :(
[02:14] <subsume|work> soundray: dunno what to say. =)
[02:14] <soundray> subsume|work: anyway, do you have a directory /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386?
[02:15] <onthefence928> help! my gnome taskbars just dissapeared on me after both my search-file utility and force quit window froze up on me
[02:15] <s0|> I am having issues connecting to my wireless network, I can see the network, I just can't *****ing get ubuntu to give me the proper authentication method. (WPA2-preshared key, TKIP+AES)  the only options I am being given are WEP stuff and LEAP.
[02:15] <subsume|work> soundray: yes, and a generic
[02:15] <Uplink> uplink@HP-Pavilion:~/.frostwire/themes$ cp . /home/uplink/Downloads/black_theme.skin
[02:15] <Uplink> cp: omitting directory `.'
[02:15] <Ahadiel> Uplink, What doesn't?
[02:15] <Ahadiel> Uplink, WRONG, the destination goes last
[02:15] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: do stop it asking for the cd in the sources.list file comment out the first few lines about the CD
[02:15] <Ahadiel> Uplink, cp file destination
[02:15] <Uplink> Ahadiel, ok ^^
[02:15] <soundray> subsume|work: do you get any output from 'find /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386 -name rt2x00'?
[02:16] <Method2oo7> can someone help with wifi
[02:16] <Fishscene> What is the device name for a USB drive? Sda1?
[02:16] <dru> hello, i cannot mount a dvd backup i made in vista(before i switched)... says connot mount udf volume
[02:16] <subsume|work> soundray: rt2x00? nope./
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> rampageoberon, I changed /var/run/motd and it still changed the banner upon reboot... what am I missing ?
[02:16] <Method2oo7> can someone help with wifi
[02:17] <subsume|work> soundray: its in generic, however.
[02:17] <dru> i cannot mount a dvd backup i made in vista(before i switched)... says connot mount udf volume
[02:17] <xTOGx> the cd gets it to 99% before fail
[02:17] <soundray> subsume|work: 'grep title /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep generic' ?
[02:17] <xTOGx> holy smokes!
[02:17] <xTOGx> it looks like it's working
[02:17] <RULR> why is movie quality in totem movie player so bad?
[02:17] <danbhfive> Method2oo7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs          try here first
[02:18] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: i'm not sure how its done, but you ideally want to do something that will stop /var/run/motd from changing. (actually try deleting the link in /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd, so make /etc/motd a new file and put whatever you want there. it might work)
[02:18] <s0|> seriosuly how do I expanded the authentication options ubuntu gives me for for wifi
[02:18] <subsume|work> soundray: 4 entries
[02:18] <dru> RULR: use VLC Media player, plays alot smooter than totem
[02:18] <[T]an1> anyone else here have any experience with bluetooth headsets connected to ubuntu?
[02:18] <xTOGx> it's asking me about postfix configuration...what do i tell it?
[02:18] <Ahadiel> s0|, If you want to use wpa, you need to install wpa_supplicant
[02:18] <soundray> subsume|work: including 2.6.22-14-generic?
[02:18] <Fungusman> How do I get application tab to drop down with the push of my SPECIAL KEY ?
[02:18] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: sudo rm /etc/motd && gksudo gedit /etc/motd
[02:18] <altnickname> ok to clean the log files for a mounted drive that wasnt removed ie unmounted first before shutdown other then ntfsfix what other cmd will do this cause that command is not known in the terminal?
[02:18] <xTOGx> wtf? what is mail server?
[02:18] <s0|> Ahadiel, I have
[02:18] <Sasha09> Visty dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.interface_mtu
[02:18] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: its an appliaction that sends/receives emails
[02:18] <Kyrin> Please help.  I've been running 8.04 for about a week now without problems, the system was running fine earlier today, I shut it down, removed a pair of 1GB PC-5300 sticks of RAM, replacing them with a pair of 2GB PC-5300 sticks.  Now when I boot up, X has the colors all wrong, like there's a palette shift going on.  Also, the mouse seems somewhat jittery, like, it's moving, but then kind of freezes, then it will move again.
[02:18] <soundray> !wtf | xTOGx
[02:19] <DarkLordVenom> has anyone ever enabled side band addressing and fast writes for an nvidia AGP card before?
[02:19] <Fungusman> =-O
[02:19] <subsume|work> soundray: yes sir
[02:19] <xTOGx> sorry botu
[02:19] <puff> So I'm in the middle of reinstalling, and I have a sudden attack of paranoia that I've transposed the root and home partition sizes.  How do I list the unmounted partitions from a terminal?
[02:19] <Ahadiel> s0|, I'd recommend wicd if you want more control.
[02:19] <Ahadiel> s0|, As opposed to networkmanager
[02:19] <rdz> hi all. how to manually install x11 fonts on ubuntu?
[02:19] <Sasha09> what does the message handler mean
[02:19] <xTOGx> rampageoberon ... so like outlook express?
[02:19] <subsume|work> puff: df -dl ?
[02:19] <rampageoberon> outlook express is an email client xTOGx
[02:19] <s0|> Ahadiel, what does that mean, I don't care about the control I just want to connect to a WPA network...
[02:20] <puff> subsume|work: Nope, gets me invaldi option d
[02:20] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: a mail server handles mail more specifically
[02:20] <thingfish> rdz: are these truetype fonts?
[02:20] <Observador> \quit
[02:20] <soundray> subsume|work: please reboot and choose that kernel from the grub menu. My suspicion is that your wireless will work (even if whatever it was that depended on the -386 kernel probably won't)
[02:20] <xTOGx> ok, so what do i tell it?
[02:20] <subsume|work> puff: hmm... i forgot
[02:20] <Skyline969> Alright, so the CD has slowed down and the Install and Examples icons have loaded. No top and bottom bars though. Any remedy?
[02:20] <tamstreo> no idea...
[02:20] <Fishscene> other slash, Observator
[02:20] <Kyrin> so, who might be able to help with what looks to be an Xserver problem?
[02:20] <s0|> Ahadiel, I have the wpasupplicant package, did you mean a diffrent one?
[02:20] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: nothing, you shouldn't have a mail server installed by default. what are you doing anyway>
[02:20] <tamstreo> but does anyone want an IRC client for palm os?
[02:20] <subsume|work> soundray: will it default to generic henceforth?
[02:20] <xTOGx> gotcha
[02:20] <tamstreo> (please kick me I need it for test
[02:20] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: did that work?
[02:20] <Ahadiel> s0|, Nope. When you try to connect to the network, it *should* prompt you for the key.
[02:20] <CaptainMorgan> working on it :)
[02:20] <tamstreo> plesse kick me from chan
[02:21] <xTOGx> so, if i had my own website...i could use this as the mail server?
[02:21] <tamstreo> I am developer of irc cliebt
[02:21] <Ubuntu_ID10T> Can someone please help me make sense of my Grub install problem
[02:21] <xTOGx> it's just personal use
[02:21] <dru> how do i force mount a cd?
[02:21] <tamstreo> hmm
[02:21] <rdz> thingfish, no, bitmap fonts
[02:21] <tamstreo> well then thx anyways
[02:21] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: i suggest first fix the OS and then worry about the servers
[02:21] <subsume|work> puff: I can't for the life of me remember. its on the tip of my tongue.
[02:21] <xTOGx> lol
[02:21] <xTOGx> thanks rama_su
[02:21] <subsume|work> puff: well, finger tips.
[02:21] <xTOGx> thanks rampageoberon
[02:21] <soundray> subsume|work: no, you have to change the 'default' line at the top of /boot/grub/menu.lst to achieve that (it starts counting at 0).
[02:21] <jimcooncat> xTOGx: whether or not you have a website you can have a mail server
[02:21] <rdz> thingfish, i am desperately trying to manually install the artwiz fonts with no luck
[02:21] <s0|> Ahadiel, it asks me to tell it what kind of key I am giving it, and none of the option are right
[02:21] <Droose> got a quick question in regards to program launching(or lack there of)
[02:21] <xTOGx> cool
[02:21] <rdz> thingfish, it was so damn dead easy on dapper...
[02:21] <Ahadiel> s0|, Are you sure? What option are you looking for?
[02:22] <jimcooncat> xTOGx: just get a domain name
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> rampageoberon, actually.. theoretically, that should work... I'll know in a moment
[02:22] <s0|> Ahadiel, any WPA preshared key would be a nice ********'ing sign
[02:22] <Ubuntu_ID10T> I got a virus on my Windows XP partition (big surprise), so I re-installed XP fresh.  Unfortunately it overwrote the MBR with GRUB and now I can't get to my Ubuntu.
[02:22] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: goodluck
[02:22] <rdz> thingfish, they removed the package from the harddy repository and i wanted to install them manually... but they simply don't show up in xfontsel
[02:22] <danbhfive> !fixgrub > Ubuntu_ID10T
[02:22] <rampageoberon> Ubuntu_ID10T: bootup with a ubuntu live cd and reinstall grub i think
[02:23] <s0|> Ahadiel, when I click the network I want to connect to it asks me what kind of security it is using and there are Three WEP options and LEAP
[02:23] <Kyrin> Ubuntu_ID10T: grub-install  ?
[02:23] <Chaotic_Descent> someone told me how to mount a vfat USB drive, but do I need to unmount them? it's not letting me unmount the drive on my desktop, and I can't find an unmount command or option under mount command.
[02:23] <Ahadiel> s0|, Are you *positive* you have wpa_supplicant installed? If so, try rebooting.
[02:23] <fale_> hello
[02:23] <Fishscene> Chaotic, umount?
[02:23] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: it's called umount
[02:23] <rampageoberon> ChaosTheory_: open file manager (Computer) and unmount there
[02:23] <thingfish> rdz: truetype fonts work when dropped into ~/.fonts...that's as far as my knowledge goes
[02:23] <s0|> Ahadiel, the package is called wpasupplicant
[02:23] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks. why umount and not unmount?
[02:23] <Ubuntu_ID10T> Trying the grub-install thing except with the live cd booted up, it doesn't recognize "hd(0,0)" or (/dev/sda) for a target.
[02:24] <Fishscene> Chaotic_Descent: , I haven't the slightest clue :P
[02:24] <s0|> Ahadiel, there is not underscore
[02:24] <rampageoberon> Chaotic_Descent:  open file manager (Computer) and unmount there
[02:24] <Droose> I just re-formatted and threw on Ubuntu. After the updates and the restarts that go along with it, for some reason my firefox doest ever launch. I've tried to reinstall it, yet still the same thing. No debug info comes up, and nothing pops up in syslog
[02:24] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: why not?
[02:24] <Ahadiel> s0|, Well, okay then. I have no idea.
[02:24] <rampageoberon> Chaotic_Descent: umount is the command not unmount
[02:24] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: linguistically, it should be 'dismount'
[02:24] <s0|> ********* ubuntu still sucking
[02:24] <subsume|work> soundray: I've never understood the selection grub makes. what are those? kernel versions?
[02:24] <Ahadiel> s0|, Not really. WPA works fine for me. All I had to install was wpa supplicant.
[02:25] <thingfish> s0|: yes, still sucking less than any other operating system out there
[02:25] <Kyrin> Anyone around who might be able to help with what looks to be an Xserver problem on Hardy Heron?
[02:25] <s0|> Ahadiel, well arn't you special
[02:25] <soundray> subsume|work: yes
[02:25] <danbhfive> Ubuntu_ID10T: i think its hd(0) for the first target
[02:25] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: i think you might need to restart sshd, not sure though
[02:25] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't unmount it in the file manager.
[02:25] <mneptok> s0|: please relax.
[02:25] <rampageoberon> !fixgrub
[02:25] <CaptainMorgan> rampageoberon, worked! thanks! :)
[02:25] <rampageoberon> CaptainMorgan: cool, well done
[02:25] <Chaotic_Descent> it won't let me. it says it can't mount it when I try to unmount it for some reason.    probably because it's still hung up on it not being ntfs.
[02:25] <s0|> mneptok, I'd fix the bugger if I knew how. (that that this should be something I need to edit and fix things to get........)
[02:26] <mneptok> s0|: that doesn't excuse the attitude
[02:26] <Chaotic_Descent> I tried umount. it won't work. it says it disagrees with the fstab.
[02:26] <sapph424> How's this look for a partitions for a 200GB drive?  /boot 8MB; / 50 GB; /usr 100GB; swap 1GB; /home 47GB; /tmp 5GB
[02:27] <crytel_> have you tried to force it?
[02:27] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: what's the full command line you are using?
[02:27] <mneptok> s0|: if your wifi chipset is supported, there's nothing to install. you just connect to the access point.
[02:27] <sapph424> Everything as ext3 other than swap, obviously.
[02:27] <Chaotic_Descent> I just tried umount /dev/sdb1
[02:27] <mneptok> sapph424: 8MB for /boot?!
[02:27] <Ahadiel> sapph424, /boot should be a MINIMUM of 100mb
[02:27] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: try 'sudo umount /dev/sdb1'
[02:27] <Chaotic_Descent> why does umount -h not work?
[02:28] <s0|> mneptok, the problem is when I attempt to connect to the access point it wants to know what kind of security is being used, and to provide credentials. the available options are not there.
[02:28] <mneptok> sapph424: why are you breaking /usr and /tmp off?
[02:28] <s0|> *not the correct ones = not there
[02:28] <Ahadiel> Chaotic_Descent, try umount --help?
[02:28] <crytel_> try "sudo umount -f /dev/sdb1"
[02:28] <Ahadiel> Chaotic_Descent, or man umount
[02:28] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: stop asking philosophical questions ;)
[02:28] <sapph424> That's good info :D  I was basing it off guides for grub partitions that said they only need to be 1MB, so I was guessing.  Clearly.
[02:28] <mneptok> s0|: what encryption schema does your AP use?
[02:28] <s0|> mneptok, wpa (well wpa2)  with TKIP+AES
[02:29] <altnickname> is there such a thing as ntfsfix?
[02:29] <tomcat> 这里有用gentoo的吗？
[02:29] <sapph424> mneptok:  I have no idea.  I am doing my best to remember verbal instructions given to me earlier today.  My only experience is with Windows, so much of this is new to me.
[02:29] <soundray> crytel_: please don't recommend force umounting when it's not entirely clear what the problem is.
[02:29] <danbhfive> sapph424: did you say its all ext3?
[02:29] <Ubuntu_ID10T> ubottu:  That seems to be doing the trick.  It was "hd(3,1)".  If someone knows the GRUB developers, thank them for their contribution and then ask them to add a little more user friendliness to the next version.  THANKS UBOTTU and others!!!
[02:29] <s0|> mneptok, there are zero WPA options being listed. theree WEP and one LEAP (if you count that as WPA is another thing)
[02:29] <sapph424> dan: I did.  Other than swap.
[02:30] <danbhfive> sapph424: ok, so Im curious, why a separate /boot?
[02:30] <mneptok> s0|: WPA-PSK
[02:30] <Chaotic_Descent> ... how do I get out of that man mode? T_T why does Ubuntu continually confound me?
[02:30] <Ubuntu_ID10T> Aren't we all just bots.  Don't sell yourself short ;)
[02:30] <s0|> mneptok, that option is not listed
[02:30] <mneptok> s0|: what release of Ubuntu?
[02:30] <Starnestommy> Chaotic_Descent: q?
[02:30] <Chaotic_Descent> ah, q. whew.
[02:30] <soundray> Ubuntu_ID10T: not all developers share the value of userfriendliness
[02:31]  * ChunkyKs reads up a bit
[02:31] <ChunkyKs> "Ahadiel: sapph424, /boot should be a MINIMUM of 100mb"
[02:31] <mneptok> s0|: does your wireless chipset support WPA(2)?
[02:31] <sapph424> dan: Due to endless problems with grub getting installed, part of today's troubleshooting du jour is a dedicated grub partition.
[02:31] <s0|> mneptok, I would have used it is I could ---- and am using 8.04
[02:31] <ChunkyKs> I think it's worth noting that the *entire* point of /boot is that some bioses couldn't read above 16M
[02:31] <RULR> my movie quality is bad, even in vlc. i watched same movie in windows (gom player), everything was ok. whats wrong? do i need some codecs?
[02:31] <Kyrin> Anyone around who might be able to help with what looks to be an Xserver problem on Hardy Heron?
[02:31] <ChunkyKs> So /boot should be a MAXIMUM of 16M, if you bother with it at all
[02:31] <Droose> Still looking for help with programs failing to load if anyone is able to show me where I've screwed up
[02:31] <s0|> mneptok, it works find with the AP in "other less superior" operating systesms
[02:31] <Chaotic_Descent> someone had to give me a command to mount this damned USB drive, and now I can't eject it.
[02:31] <mneptok> s0|: it's has always been an option on my 3945 and 4965 chipsets
[02:31] <mneptok> *it has
[02:32] <soundray> subsume|work: can I leave you to it?
[02:32] <rampageoberon> !ask | Kyrin
[02:32] <soundray> Chaotic_Descent: don't get frustrated. Share the error messages. Use the pastebin
[02:32] <altnickname> wheres a place with one on one help
[02:32] <ChunkyKs> Chaotic_Descent: try fuser /path/to/mounted/filesystem
[02:32]  * JoaoVr Boas
[02:32] <soundray> !paste | Chaotic_Descent