[06:43] <orionsonofneptun> its cd r
[06:44] <dr-willis> an os-cd has data on it.  and a filesystem..
[06:44] <crfripper> wol
[06:44] <dr-willis> so it reads the data... and mounts the disk
[06:44] <hydrox24> Talisman: you can list all installed packages with "dpkg --get-selections"
[06:45] <Talisman> hydrox24, and the uninstalled ones?
[06:45] <orionsonofneptun> hold on i cant think
[06:45] <Talisman> or rather, "not installed"
[06:46] <Talisman> hydrox24, in essence, I want to browse the list of packages instead of trying to install by hit and miss.
[06:46] <orionsonofneptun> but always before blank cds show up in shell
[06:47] <dr-willis> orionsonofneptun:  i dont recall seeing that happen.
[06:47] <orionsonofneptun> i do
[06:47] <dr-willis> blank = launch a burner app.[
[06:47] <dr-willis> which is disabable i recall
[06:47] <hydrox24> Talisman: you can dump the names of all packages in the cache using "apt-cache sump"
[06:47] <hydrox24> Talisman: you can dump the names of all packages in the cache using "apt-cache dump"
[06:48] <dr-willis> !burn
[06:48] <Talisman> hydrox24, aah. ok, thanks
[06:48] <hydrox24> Talisman: if you want to browse packages from the CLI I recommend aptitude
[06:48] <Dulak> Talisman: use synaptic to browse uninstalled packages, it's much nicer than going through a 70k+ line text file
[06:49] <mylisto23> can someone please help me to get my 10.04 back up and running...
[06:49] <mylisto23> I think its a problem with grub
[06:50] <dr-willis> !fixgrub
[06:50] <Talisman> hydrox24, Dulak, aptitude or synaptic... thanks, I'll try them both.
[06:52] <Dulak> Talisman: one is for the command line, the other for the GUI
[06:53] <vn> is ubuntu supposed to support AHCI?
[06:54] <vn> I just switches sata mode from AHCI to IDE and everything boots..
[06:54] <Talisman> Dulak, yeh, I've got them both now - I work a lot in the command line so I'll probably use that one as much as the other :-)
[07:00] <orionsonofneptun> ok maybee people just joining in can help me determine if this is ubuntu 11.10 issue or hardware when i put in dvdrw in drive it starts to spin then stops other cds work ok so whats the deal
[07:01] <orionsonofneptun> in the past its always spun and opened shell regardless of whats on disk
[07:03] <hydrox24> orionsonofneptun: are you able to put in a DVD that has something already on it?
[07:03] <orionsonofneptun> yup and some work and some dont
[07:04] <dr-willis> check 'dmesg' output when inserting disks that have known data on them.
[07:04] <dr-willis> it may show some sort of read errors.
[07:04] <Jatu> What problem are we having ? His drive not reading discs ?
[07:04] <orionsonofneptun> well the only one i got that works works fine
[07:05] <dr-willis> so.... burn some data to the others as a test...
[07:05] <orionsonofneptun> im trying to get sony handycam dvd rw to open shell and say clean disk
[07:05] <orionsonofneptun> it should i think
[07:06] <Jatu> Hmm
[07:07] <dr-willis> if you are blanking a rw media.. the burner tools can do that. im not sure if ubuntu sure if ubuntu supports using a rw disk as a 'big floppy'
[07:07] <dr-willis> spam message from Waste_Tinkle_Flu .... please dont do that Waste_Tinkle_Flu
[07:08] <Jatu> Yeah might try it on a different os unless Ubuntu is the only OS you have available at the moment. If say you have windows try doing on that see if it works there.
[07:08] <dr-willis> isent there some mode setting where you only can get msgs from regiestered nicks..
[07:08] <orionsonofneptun> he should be banned just for his name lol
[07:09] <Jatu> THat's my best suggestion. And yes getting quite annoying seeing his name change every 2 minutes.
[07:10] <dr-willis> if its reading data from his one data disk... and can burn to his one rw disk.. sounds like its working
[07:10] <Jatu> Then what is the forseen problem ?
[07:11] <orionsonofneptun> ok then ill let the issue go until i want to burn a disk
[07:11] <Jatu> Some disk just not allowing it to be written to. Cause from all I read was he wanted to clean disk.
[07:11] <orionsonofneptun> but sony handycam dvd rw little disk should work ok right
[07:11] <dr-willis> Jatu:  sounds like hes expecting the filemanager to popup on an empty optical disk.. which makesa no sence to me
[07:11] <Jatu> Lol I kinda probably missed half of the conversation.
[07:11] <Jatu> Ah I see what you mean then.
[07:11] <orionsonofneptun> dr-willis yes
[07:12] <dr-willis> dvd rw little disk .. HUH
[07:12] <orionsonofneptun> it has done that always
[07:12] <dr-willis> a mini dvd-rw
[07:12] <orionsonofneptun> yup 1.4 gb
[07:12] <dr-willis> never seen one
[07:12] <orionsonofneptun> accu core
[07:12] <mylisto23> so I'm having a hard time booting into my 10.04 installation
[07:12] <Jatu> If anything only pop-up I would imagine appearing is something along the lines of "What do you want to do with this disk" also could be that driver or ubuntu is having problems reading a mini dvd'
[07:12] <orionsonofneptun> interesting disk
[07:13] <orionsonofneptun> well were getting alittle of ubuntu huh
[07:13] <dr-willis> mylisto23:  what does it do...
[07:14] <mylisto23> dr-willis: it just sits there
[07:14] <dr-willis> mylisto23:  where? at grub? at bios..
[07:14] <dr-willis> we need details
[07:14] <mylisto23> so I used a livecd and chose "repair grub"...I did that on the main hd
[07:15] <mylisto23> I think its at the grub
[07:15] <dr-willis> so you see what exactly?
[07:15] <mylisto23> then yesterday it wasn't booting so someone told me to hold down the shift key and low and behold it worked...now today after a restart not even holding down the shift key will show the grub menu
[07:15] <mylisto23> now I just get a black screen with a flashing cursor
[07:15] <orionsonofneptun> ok what controls does ubuntu 11.10 have for optical drive
[07:16] <dr-willis> shift keys shows the grub menu if its set to hide.
[07:16] <mylisto23> I've got supergrub disk on thumbdrive now
[07:17] <orionsonofneptun> where to find ubuntu master
[07:17] <mylisto23> I'm at a loss for what I need to do
[07:17] <dr-willis> vague questions are vague....
[07:17] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu master technologist
[07:17] <orionsonofneptun> ???????
[07:17] <Jatu> I know bodhi_zazen in #ubuntuforums  is a very knowledged person but he is currently not on.
[07:18] <dr-willis> mylisto23:  id try a ubuntu live cd and that fixboot tool
[07:18] <mylisto23> fixboot tool?
[07:18] <mylisto23> where is it located?
[07:18] <Jatu> WOuld check there a few times to see if he could help.
[07:18] <techquila> I got a random issue thats got me stuffed and would appreciate some ideas if ya have any... I can't access youtube from any browser whatsoever... its not blocked at my router, I admin my network and haven't blocked it anywhere.. have run an update recently and suspect its happened from there but can't be sure.. it makes no sense... any ideas?
[07:18] <dr-willis> !fixgrub
[07:18] <dr-willis> that url mentions it. i rarely use it
[07:18] <Jatu> Techquila simple question
[07:19] <mylisto23> what url?
[07:19] <dr-willis> the bot seems dead. it gave the url earlier
[07:19] <Jatu> Gotta think of how I was gonna word this just lost my trail of thoughts
[07:19] <techquila> Jatu: as in you want one or are ya just sayin?
[07:20] <Jatu> IS your adobe flash player and related stuff up to date ? Try updating plugins on firefox and working from there ?
[07:20] <mylisto23> dr-willis: doesn't super grub disk do the same thing?
[07:20] <Jatu> As I can't see a ubuntu update preventing you from watching stuff on youtube. Unless ofcourse something got deleted while replacing something else.
[07:21] <dr-willis> mylisto23:  i suggest using the actual ubuntu disk and tools.. since you tried to fix it with supergrub and it failed...
[07:21] <techquila> its not flash related I don't think.. its just not finding the site.  I used to watch youtube fine... i'm current on all flash,,etc... but use html5 anyways now
[07:21] <Jatu> Oh not finding the site like what does it tell you ?
[07:21] <Jatu> When you try to access it
[07:21] <techquila> thats just it.. nothing.. its searches and searches and times out
[07:21] <thatsashok> guys need help in recovering data from accidentally formatted partition
[07:21] <techquila> no other problems with any other browsing though Jatu
[07:21] <thatsashok> any tools available for that in ubuntu ?
[07:22] <techquila> random hey
[07:22] <dr-willis> thatsashok:  formated how
[07:22] <Jatu> Weird never encountered this myself but then again I stay away from updating to much.
[07:22] <thatsashok> dr-willis: my frind did it by mistake
[07:22] <thatsashok> *friend
[07:22] <Jatu> After it times out does it just hang on a blank page ?
[07:22] <techquila> can't confirm it was the update.. just that happened this week around the same time this problem occured
[07:22] <dr-willis> thatsashok: ... yes... what filesystem and tools....
[07:23] <thatsashok> dr-willis: NTFS
[07:23] <techquila> just trying it again to double check.. just seem to endlessly be "waiting for www.youtube.com"
[07:23] <thatsashok> dr-willis: he used disk utility under system>administration he is in 10.10
[07:23] <techquila> other machines on the network can connect fine.. just my main machine
[07:24] <dr-willis> !undelete
[07:24] <tpl2000> Does anyone know the commands for installing PyGTK 2.10.0, GTK.Glade, and GTK+ 2.10.0?
[07:24] <Jatu> Hmm I really am stumped to what could be causing your problem.
[07:25] <techquila> hehe.. now theres two of us!
[07:25] <Jatu> So all other machines on same network can connect fine. Different browsers can connect 2 it fine.
[07:26] <Jatu> Is that right ?
[07:26] <thatsashok> dr-willis: thanks going through it now
[07:26] <tpl2000> Does anyone know what repository PyGTK, GTK.Glade, and GTK+ are in?
[07:27] <dr-willis> !find pygtk
[07:27] <techquila> yup ..every other machine has no problems... just specific to this machine and is a problem with every browser I use on this machine: Opera, Chrome, and FF
[07:27] <ItsMeLenny> they usually are in the main repo
[07:27] <tpl2000> Ty
[07:27] <tpl2000> !find gtk.glade
[07:27] <tpl2000> Nope, I can't control the bot
[07:27] <tpl2000> Ohwait
[07:28] <troy> exit
[07:28] <tpl2000> !find gtk+
[07:28] <dr-willis> find looks for fileames. and gives what package use !info packagename for details
[07:28] <Jatu> Check though like you said it probably said worth a try making sure adobe flash player is up to date or the current plugins are installed if all else fails check to see if the updates were important and if not system recovery lol.
[07:28] <ItsMeLenny> gtk3 has its own python bindings
[07:29] <tpl2000> !info gir1.2-dbusmenu-gtk-0.4
[07:29] <Jatu> Woops mis worded that. Even  though you said it probably isn't I would still suggest checking plug-ins and seeing what is enabled and what isn't
[07:29] <Jatu> Could be a problem with a certain program running also.
[07:29] <mylisto23> 	I'm trying to use super grub to fix my ubuntu installation...when I tried to fix grub I got "error 15: file not found booting 'not lucky'"
[07:29] <techquila> yea just looking into the updates now.. I remember there was a chrome update... will do.. .bbs
[07:29] <Jatu> kk good luck
[07:30] <Jatu> Mylisto is a livecd you are trying to use to install with ?
[07:30] <tpl2000> Meh. Does anyone know a good Ubuntu alternative to cpu-z?
[07:30] <mylisto23> jatu: I'm using a flashdrive with super grub disk right now
[07:31] <Jatu> How much space is on the flash drive ?
[07:31] <mylisto23> 4 gigs I think
[07:32] <Jatu> Hmm the file not found sounds like either the drive is being misread or you got corrupt data.
[07:32] <k013> hi, doubt, please help! when booting up ubuntu 11.10, it alternatively flickers between black screen and login screen, unable to login, what to do?
[07:32] <tpl2000> Did you checksum the USB drive, Mylisto?
[07:32] <mylisto23> I'm ready to take a baseball bat to my comptuer now
[07:32] <mylisto23> no I didn't tpl2000:
[07:33] <fre3bird> i'm very aware of why no one helped me with my sound card issue
[07:33] <tpl2000> You may want to try that first before "installing" more hardware
[07:33] <Jatu> Be patient lol. I'm trying to switch to another linux -os and just making the bootable usb is taking ages.
[07:33] <Jatu> Time solves all problems.
[07:34] <tpl2000> Except for the ones that get progressively worse
[07:34] <mylisto23> this is such b.s.  ubuntu totally fried my installation
[07:34] <Jatu> I doubt it was ubuntu =/
[07:34] <tpl2000> Anyone, cpu-z alternative?
[07:34] <mylisto23> Jatu: I didn't do anything different...
[07:34] <techquila> Jatu: you sound like a busy man so I won't keep bugging you.. this is in the x files i reckon
[07:34] <techquila> no luch
[07:34] <Jatu> Lol techquila I am not busy I just try to help out
[07:35] <Jatu> WIth the little bit of information I do know
[07:35] <Jatu> I'm still learning myself.
[07:35] <techquila> mylisto23:  ubuntu don't do nothing... its a tool.. users fry their own systems
[07:35] <fre3bird> i'm not banned from anything (google)
[07:36] <k013> hi, please help! when booting up ubuntu 11.10, it alternatively flickers between black screen and login screen, unable to login, what to do?
[07:36] <Jatu> What are you booting off of ?
[07:36] <jswagner> k013: ATI?
[07:37] <Jatu> Also ATI like he said
[07:37] <k013> jatu - hp laptop dv6, jswagner - nvidia geforce with cuda
[07:37] <Jatu> LiveCd or Usb did you make it correctly ? Are your drivers compatible with it ?
[07:38] <k013> jatu - its a dual boot system, was working well untill yeterday!
[07:38] <techquila> can you log in at all k013 or it happens when you boot in
[07:38] <tpl2000> What happened yesterday? o.o
[07:39] <Jatu> That was about to be my question. What changed from yesterday ?
[07:39] <techquila> i had a similar issue on an older machine that just couldn't handle unity
[07:39] <k013> tpl2000 - firefox malfunctioned, so i uninstalled and reinstalled it that's all, nothing else, but the issue was not fixed, contd
[07:39] <techquila> so i switch to classic and sweet
[07:40] <Jatu> Wait you reinstalled the OS because firefox malfunctioned ?
[07:40] <techquila> surely just firefox
[07:40] <k013> contd when is switch windows using alt+tab the firebox browser simply closed, that was the issue!
[07:41] <k013> reinstalled firefox jatu
[07:41] <AdvoWork> for some reason, my dvdrw has stopped working in ubuntu 10.04. No errors in /var/log/messages Any ideas what I can do please? It doesn't auto pop up when I put a dvd in, and when I right click > send to disc, it only gives the option to burn to image, not the disk :S dmesg | grep dvd shows its there..
[07:41] <Jatu> Ah kk just wanted to make sure lol.
[07:41] <mylisto23> argh
[07:41] <tpl2000> Advowork: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[07:41] <Jatu> Um you still got a live cd or usb stick ?
[07:41] <techquila> hahaha tpl
[07:41] <mylisto23> yeah I do
[07:41] <techquila> IT Crowd?
[07:41] <mylisto23> I've got both
[07:42] <tpl2000> Techquila: Yep ;) Still the first question you should ask yourself in troubleshooting
[07:42] <Jatu> Try booting from one of those and see if it works.
[07:42] <techquila> tpl2000, my favourite series of all time
[07:42] <k013> techquila - unable to login at all
[07:42] <tpl2000> techquila: Mine too =] Any clue when s5 is starting?
[07:42] <Jatu> If it works that way something on your drive could have corrupted the current settings or drivers is what I'm thinking though I could be totally wrong.
[07:43] <k013> jatu is there a safe mode which i can boot into?
[07:43] <Jatu> So I suggest checking if you can boot a liveOS from cd/usb and if screen still flashes I would suggest trying your other os and checking your drivers.
[07:43] <techquila> k013: you been using this install for a while i take it?
[07:43] <AdvoWork> tpl2000, yeah done that, no difference
[07:43] <techquila> tpl2000, I didn't think there was one coming
[07:44] <k013> techquila - yes since it was released
[07:44] <Jatu> Cause screen flashing more or less sounds like a driver issue if anything,
[07:44] <tpl2000> techquila: Doesn't seem to me like they would've stopped it at season 4, I'll check later
[07:44] <mylisto23> jatu: are you talking to me?
[07:44] <Jatu> mylisto23 : yes I am
[07:44] <tpl2000> Advowork: Do you have a separate machine or OS you could test the drive with? We need to make sure it isn't the drive's fault
[07:44] <Jatu> Oh no
[07:44] <mylisto23> there is not screen flashing
[07:45] <AdvoWork> tpl2000, i haven't unfortunaetyely as its a laptop one :S
[07:45] <Jatu> Wait yes
[07:45] <Jatu> So many things being said lol
[07:45] <Jatu> I almost got lost mylisto23 yes I am talking to you.
[07:45] <techquila> k013 i agree with Jatu.. unless hardware problem... firefox issue would not have caused this
[07:45] <techquila> you may need to boot in with live cd and attempt recovery
[07:45] <k013> techquila - ok is there a safe mode, how do i login in?
[07:46] <Jatu> AdvoWork : Try taking out your dvd drive reboot without it in. Then turn off and reinsert like that ?
[07:46] <Jatu> Lol
[07:46] <tpl2000> advowork: There are alternative methods for everything you listed as being a problem. Can you still burn to dvd with brasero, and does it still read disks?
[07:46] <Jatu> I really did get mixed up in 2 conversations
[07:46] <Jatu> Good I am to adhd.
[07:47] <Jatu> mylisto23 : sorry what was your problem again
[07:47] <Jatu> I see my mistake I was talking to 2 people at once and got way to lost.
[07:47] <techquila> K013  whats your level of experience with ubuntu?  not trying to be a dick just will help me help you
[07:47] <Aesthenaut> are there tons of problems with mounting ios devices on ubuntu?
[07:48] <k013> just a user not a code writer, techquila, sorry!
[07:48] <Jatu> k013 You don't need to be in safe mode just see if you can reboot from Cd/usb if screen still flashes sounds like a driver issue.
[07:48] <k013> jatu - ok
[07:48] <rabbi1> Libre Office: Start Recovery Process doesn't end at all :(
[07:48] <guest-JOsbDO> just would like to tell all all the Ubuntu people how selfish they are ... Now i understand why not many people use this OS or has even heard about it..  NOT THE COMMAND LINE
[07:50] <Jatu> That makes no sense.
[07:50] <tpl2000> YO
[07:50] <guest-JOsbDO> YES IT DOES
[07:50] <tpl2000> J0SBD0
[07:50] <tpl2000> NOT ENOUGH CAPS LOCK BRO
[07:50] <mylisto23> WE NEED MORE CAPSLOCK
[07:50] <mylisto23> er cowbell ;)
[07:50] <tpl2000> ^
[07:51] <Jatu> ARE YOU MAD WITH UBUNTU OR MICROSOFT.
[07:51] <techquila> salgood k013... you have a live cd?
[07:51] <guest-JOsbDO> i'm a girl thats wanted her little niece to learn
[07:51] <Jatu> Check learning section of
[07:51] <techquila> GOOGLE
[07:51] <Jatu> Ubuntu software center
[07:51] <guest-JOsbDO> did that
[07:52] <Jatu> There is a great deal of programs for youngsters to get used to linux.
[07:52] <k013> techquila - no, it was a direct upgrade from update manager
[07:52] <techquila> guest-JOsbDO, what you said is absolutely ridiculous ... user error yet again
[07:53] <Jatu> k013 techquila I will be afk for a short few minutes i will be back and try to help to best of my ability.
[07:53] <guest-JOsbDO> i looked
[07:53] <Jatu> Mind you I am still learning myself the nooks and cranies.
[07:53] <The_BROS> anybody knows why it is not possible to export bookmarks, passwords and cookies from Firefox 11 to Chromium. It was possible before.
[07:53] <Jatu> Josbdo when I get back I will look thru software center and tell you a couple
[07:53] <techquila> k013: you have a net enabled pc though by the looks so it would pay to download the live cd and hit me up once you got it and ready to boot in under it
[07:53] <Jatu> Be like 5 or so minutes
[07:54] <guest-JOsbDO> if its hard to find.. Not one child will take the time to learn
[07:54] <tpl2000> bfd
[07:54] <tpl2000> You're the adult, you do the downloading and the teaching
[07:54] <techquila> The_BROS, you can export them as html and then import them
[07:54] <tpl2000> That's how things work
[07:54] <AdvoWork> tpl2000, Jatu tried the reboot without dvd, no luck. Brasero says: Please insert a writable cd or dvd.. which it is?
[07:55] <k013> ok jatu and techquila will get back to you both, thank you so much, love ubuntu, just sayin!
[07:55] <tpl2000> Advowork: Does it still read files?
[07:55] <techquila> AdvoWork,  is brasero the reason you believe your dvd to be the problem.. sorry i haven't been following your thread..
 but how about "export from another browser" tool? Is it not working?
[07:55] <guest-JOsbDO> tpl2000: why??? when MS is so much user friendly.. I tried pushing Ubuntu and linux but it is too difficult for children
[07:55] <tpl2000> advowork: If not, it might just be the dvd drive.
[07:56] <techquila> The_BROS, yea thats never worked for me so i just use the export /import method
[07:56] <AdvoWork> hmmm, i've just put in a different disc, and it seems ok.. which is strange. The dvds are DVD-R 16x. These are new discs, but the old case/batch I had were the same. The dvd i've just put in states Blank DVD+R?
[07:57] <elkng> the size of "ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso" is 1.5G, why its not full DVD 4.7G ?
[07:57] <ehm> JOsbDO: What could a "little niece" be doing that's so difficult?
[07:57] <techquila> guest-JOsbDO, its a learning curve like all things in life.  Ubuntu shits all over anything out there on the market today... you have to put the time and the effort into learning how to use it.. the reward is so sweet
 it was working for me in previous versions of mozilla and Chromium, but after update it has stopped
[07:57] <erespond> bro... am have mp4 vid am need burn it to vcd player and can wath to cd player what i do ??
[07:57] <tpl2000> Advowork: It might just have been the dvd then. See if everything works with the dvd you just put in
[07:58] <erespond> bro... am have mp4 vid am need burn it to cd and can wath to cd player what i do ??
[07:58] <techquila> AdvoWork, i have problems with cheap discs all the time in brasero
[07:58] <tpl2000> Erespond: Please for the love of god learn to type first
[07:58] <ultrixx> guest-JOsbDO: no it is much easier to use than windows
[07:58] <guest-JOsbDO> anyway, everyone here keep living in a dream world.. but keep in mind.. less and less computer companies are using Linux .. It was a shock Dell computers even considered
[07:58] <erespond> what application you recomend for me on windows i used nero ?
[07:58] <ehm> JOsbDO: I suggest installing some puzzle games.  Learn to explore, first.
[07:59] <techquila> The_BROS, mmm.. as i say never worked for me... but i telll you since the last chrome update i can't view youtube on any browser ... random as
[07:59] <erespond> tpl2000, :P, am need burn my file on cd, and that can used for play on cd player.
[07:59] <tpl2000> erespond: Just use Brasero. It comes with ubuntu stock.
[07:59] <AdvoWork> DOH! i didnt think to try a different dvd, just because it was a brand new pack.. Ive putin the 2nd disc down and its fine lol
[07:59] <erespond>  am need burn my file on cd, and that can used for play on cd player.
[07:59] <guest-JOsbDO> ehm: thankyou.. you might understand
[07:59] <erespond> are you sued brasero can burn cd and i can used for cd player at home ?
[08:00] <erespond> tpl2000, are you sued brasero can burn cd and i can used for cd player at home ?
[08:00] <tpl2000> erespond: I have no idea. Try it.
[08:00] <The_BROS> Is it safe to install 12.04 already or it would be better to wait for relese?
[08:00] <techquila> guest-JOsbDO, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about!  the internet would not survive without linux and it is the number one choice for mission critical high availability server environments
[08:00] <techquila> just cos you don't understand it don't go spitting your hate!
[08:00] <erespond> tpl2000, am just have one cd, my home so far bro, so what i can do. on windows i used nero and on ubuntu what  you recomend
[08:01] <tpl2000> Erespond: Already told ya, use Brasero.
[08:01] <kammkzz> .
[08:01] <ultrixx> techquila: well the internet would survive, there is still bsd....
[08:01] <Jatu> Josbdo more and more people are using linux as it is open-source. The whole project idea was based on people working together. I will check for a few things for kids and linux but why not try teaching her yourself ?
[08:01] <techquila> sorry ultrixx... generalisations i am guilty of.  maybe i should retract and say Unix
[08:01] <ehm> techquila, chill. She's talking about kids/grandparents using it.
[08:01] <erespond> are brasero can used for cd player
[08:02] <tpl2000> erespond: Yes.
[08:02] <tpl2000> Does anyone know a decent alternative for cpu-z?
[08:02] <guest-JOsbDO> techquila: you really are retarded.. come on!! tell me what 11 year old girl cares about what you just mentioned .. unless they are from the middle east. No offense
[08:02] <techquila> my two year old uses linux ... he can't write shell scripts but he can find the games and the movies
[08:02] <guest-JOsbDO> HE??
[08:03] <tpl2000> OH NO
[08:03] <tpl2000> IT HAS A PENIS
[08:03] <guest-JOsbDO> techquila: He?
[08:03] <tpl2000> KILL IT WITH FIRE
[08:03] <FloodBot1> tpl2000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:03] <ehm> "find the games and the movies" <-- that's what i'm suggesting to do.
[08:03] <Jatu> Linux of any distro is not something you just jump into expecting to learn from the get go. It takes time and dedication.
[08:03] <techquila> guest-JOsbDO, no offense... after calling me retarded?
[08:03] <Jatu> Give me a  minute or 2 and I wil ltry to point you to a few programs for kids to get started.
[08:04] <guest-JOsbDO> just saying, boys are more likely to learn than girls
[08:04] <Jatu> Also suggest for a child to use 10.04 it is more like window than 11.10
[08:04] <tpl2000> guest-J0sbD0: I really just don't get why you're here. "Windows is better and it's all your fault!"
[08:04] <Jatu> Here is one you could try using the "educational desktop for ubuntu"
[08:05] <Jatu> kturtle is another linux program for younger people.
[08:05] <Jatu> To understand programing of it a bit more.
[08:06] <techquila> guest-JOsbDO, i'm picking up not only racist but now sexist inferences from your dialogue... you get out of life what you put in.. .spend some time to learn.. don't hate because you are frustrated.. there are many great resources out there.. you've come into this channel and slated the operating system this channel exists for, and the users of it.   No OS has a game to teach kids in a sesame street based atomsphere to use the command line or anyhting like that.
[08:07] <Jatu> There is a "Pre-School Bundle" for ubuntu.
[08:07] <guest-JOsbDO> i am talking about future generations
[08:07] <techquila> *elmo write a bash script
[08:07] <tpl2000> If any does, linux would be about the only one ._.;
[08:07] <techquila> you talk about future generations but live in the past
[08:07] <Jordan_U> guest-JOsbDO: You're attitude toward others in this channel is unnacceptable. If you don't want to use Ubuntu, then don't. If you don't have a support question, please find another channel to chat in.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> !language | techquila
[08:08] <Jatu> Then why not try and make a game yourself for the future generations. Or set up a group with others to try to make one.
[08:09] <Jatu> This is open-source and all help to make it better for all ages - races - nationalities to use.
[08:09] <techquila> never will i ever let anyone regulate my language Jordan_U!  I'm off .. cya
[08:09] <guest-JOsbDO> i am really trying to explain a problem.. i wasn't trying to be rude.. just stating facts
[08:09] <ehm> hence the caps, right?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> guest-JOsbDO: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions only. It's not for unproductive rants about shortcomings of Ubuntu as you see them.
[08:10] <Jatu> Okay let me try to put it this way. I'm trying to find you a solution to help you help your niece. Linux is not like windows. As in order to do something of major significance you must take the time to learn it.
[08:10] <guest-JOsbDO> caps.. this is because i am using my cousins computer. her keyboard is crap
[08:10] <tpl2000> Here's a support question then. Both LSHW and Dmidecode display my memory as 667mhz, (ddr3) when it's set to run at (13.33 x 240)mhz.
[08:10] <iceroot> guest-JOsbDO: stop it!!!
[08:11] <vancha> goodday all
[08:11] <tpl2000> Whoops, meant (6.67x240)
[08:11] <Jatu> I gave you a list of quite a few programs that can help a kid get used to the Linux enviroment. THink of linux like school it's not fun till you get to know it better.
[08:11] <vancha> does anyone know why the www.omgubuntu.co.uk site is down?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> guest-JOsbDO: And your language has been both rude to the people to whom it was directed, and offensive on the whole.
[08:12] <vancha> oh sorry did i get in the middle of something here :O
[08:12] <Jatu> You'd be suprised how quick kids learn. They may not like it at first but would you rather spend $200 on a OS that has little to no free programs to help a kid learn it and it's enviroment ?
[08:13] <crizzy> i'm more than willing to spend 200$ on an OS that works :)
[08:13] <vancha> crizzy did you have a problem with linux?
[08:13] <iceroot> !ot
[08:13] <vancha> i've never had a problem with it myself, but im still a beginner though ;)
[08:14] <Jatu> Now I tried to help you out with listing a few kid programs. So love it or hate it.
[08:14] <vancha> been using it for three years, but never got into the whole command-line thing
[08:14] <Jatu> Now does someone here have a problem they need help with ?
[08:15] <vancha> well Jatu , i was wondering if anyone knew why the omgubuntu site was down, i have not been able to reach it all morning :)
[08:15] <Escherial> as much as kate bothers me in other respects, i really like how it groups open files in a treeview
[08:16] <Escherial> is there another editor that groups files like that that's not kate?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> vancha: That's not really an Ubuntu support question, you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:16] <guest-JOsbDO> i just tried addressing you Jatu, thinking you were a adult.. apparently not
[08:16] <vancha> ah sorry, i will. thanks Jordan_U
[08:16] <iceroot> Escherial: i only know that vim can do that but its cli
[08:16] <Jordan_U> vancha: You're welcome.
[08:16] <Escherial> iceroot: fair enough; i desperately need to learn how to use vim, anyhow :)
[08:17] <vancha> what kind of editor are you looking for Escherial ?
[08:17] <vancha> i personally love scite :O
[08:17] <Jatu> J0sbDO why are you being rude ? I tried giving you a list of programs to help your niece. Have you tried any of those programs with here ?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Escherial: I highly recommend "vimtutor" (it's a command).
[08:17] <Jatu> her*
[08:17] <scottj> vancha: don't know, but it was down a couple hours ago
[08:17] <helmut_> hi
[08:17] <vancha> alright thanks scottj , ill keep trying :O
[08:17] <Jatu> Vancha: i also have no clue sorry I can't help you with it.
[08:18] <iceroot> Escherial: vim-tutor is a nice "program" which is good for learning vim, its availabe after you installed vim
[08:18] <guest-JOsbDO> but children's attention span is short
[08:18] <iceroot> Escherial: vimtutor
[08:18] <iceroot> guest-JOsbDO: its offtopic here
[08:18] <iceroot> guest-JOsbDO: please stop it
[08:18] <Escherial> Jordan_U, iceroot: thanks, i'll check it out
[08:19] <Escherial> vancha: well, preferably a graphical editor, but i think i'm going to entertain/distract myself with learning vim for a while...
[08:19] <iceroot> Escherial: learning vim is always a good idea :)
[08:19] <iceroot> Escherial: but please use vim and not vi
[08:19] <guest-JOsbDO> an 11 or 12 year old are thinking about boys
[08:19] <Jatu> Question as I am still learning  myself what is Vim ?
[08:20] <vancha> vim is a text editor
[08:20] <iceroot> guest-JOsbDO: last warning, stop it!!
[08:20] <vancha> that you can use in the command line interface
[08:20] <dr-willis> 'the' text editor. ;)
[08:20] <vancha> ^^
[08:20] <Jatu> Ah okay. I'm still not as near as close to being as knowledgable as some of the users here but gotta start somewhere lol.
[08:21] <iceroot> there is only one real editor, the other is a nice operating system without a good editor (emacs) :)
[08:21] <vancha> well Jatu , i think ubuntu is more user friendly then windows if you only use the necessary stuff :O
[08:21] <vancha> you dont need to  learn a whole deal if your a normal user ;)
[08:21] <ejv> emacs is awful, nano please.
[08:21] <guest-JOsbDO> iceroot: you are really getting on my nerves..  Comes in here attacks everyone and gets mad when I suggest like 8 different child based programs.
[08:23] <ejv> Jatu: this is the mourning period where we "move along" :)
[08:24] <Jatu> I am not sure if this is the area to ask but anyone here have experience with "backtrack5" I was just wanting to know the learning curve I was looking at.
[08:24] <vancha> i found out yesterday that even gaming on linux is more 'alive' than i ever imagined :O
[08:24] <iceroot> !backtrack | Jatu
[08:25] <mylisto23> haha
[08:25] <Jatu> Darn.
[08:25] <Jatu> Well that answered my question lol.
[08:25] <iceroot> Jatu: sorry
[08:25] <vancha> backtrack5 is not comparible to ubuntu, its more of a "hackers" distribution, and altough it tries to make hacking easier, its HARD :P
[08:25] <mylisto23> jatu: I found out what was messing my system up!  a stupid sandisk 8 gig chip..the system was trying to boot off of it :D
[08:25] <ejv> pretty much all questions can be answered reading the community documentation
[08:26] <ejv> or just reading in general via google
[08:26] <Jatu> It's fine I undestand the pretenses.
[08:26] <Shabba> college programming student here, just switched like 10 mins ago, so what programs are used for writing/compiling code?
[08:26] <Jatu> Well I actually was wanting to get into network security again I learned a bit in windows but thougt it was worth a ask before I got it done.
[08:26] <iceroot> Shabba: what language?
[08:26] <ejv> Shabba: a text editor and gcc?
[08:26] <vancha> Shabba: what kind of programming?
[08:27] <Shabba> java
[08:27] <vancha> i use bluefish
[08:27] <vancha> for PHP
[08:27] <vancha> eclipse for java
[08:27] <Jatu> Java is always fun. Was the first programming i got into lol. I wanna teach myself some php next.
[08:27] <vancha> very good IDE :O i think its in the software center, but i downloaded it from the site.
[08:27] <ejv> your teacher didn't tell you how to compile using the java sdk... questionable curriculum...
[08:28] <vancha> i love php Jatu :D im making a site in php right now ^^
[08:28] <iceroot> Shabba: i would suggest eclipse
[08:28] <Shabba> like the first day, been using netbeans ever since
[08:29] <vancha> Shabba: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7.2-201202080800/eclipse-SDK-3.7.2-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[08:29] <iceroot> Shabba: netbeans is available for ubuntu too
[08:29] <Jatu> I plan dual booting backtrack and ubuntu 10.04. I probably know the answer but is there a chance of them interfering with eachother since they are both linux based or nah ?
[08:29] <iceroot> vancha: you can install eclipse directly from the repos
[08:29] <iceroot> !repos | vancha
[08:29] <ejv> why are you guys suggesting such glitzy advanced editors, how about something basic like emacs or gedit, since he or she is a novice.
[08:29] <reith2004> try sublimetext it fast...
[08:29] <dr-willis> i like geany
[08:29] <vancha> ejv: BECAUSE he is a novice, wouldnt you want an editor that helps you code?
[08:29] <pdq> geany is good, fast and lightweight
[08:30] <dr-willis> and avail for windows
[08:30] <Jatu> Is it fine to dual-boot 2 linux distros ? Or is there a chance they will interfere with eachother ?
[08:30] <ejv> i'd argue that, early on, crutches are bad
[08:30] <Jatu> Just making sure I don't do anything wrong so i ask alot of questions myself when needed.
[08:31] <vancha> hmm.. you could be right, im still learning java myself though :P started last year, and all i've used so far is eclipse. except for some editors that didnt really work out for me.
[08:32] <henryC> I don't know whether to ask in #nginx or here.  I used to always compile nginx from source.  I just upgraded to 11.10 and I just want to use nginx from the repo.  I end up with no binary.  "apt-get cache show nginx" talks about a "dummy package"...?
[08:32] <Jatu> Vancha : you mentioned backtrack messed up your system. If not mistaken. What ways so ?
[08:33] <iceroot> henryC: dummy-package is a metapackage which is just a package which has dependencies and will install other packages
[08:33] <vancha> i didnt Jatu :O had to be someone else. i did say it was hard :)
[08:33] <Jatu> Ah okay
[08:33] <iceroot> henryC: like ubuntu-desktop, that package does not contain unity and so on just a dependency to everything which is needed
[08:33] <Jatu> Thanks though ^^
[08:33] <vancha> its not easy to learn how to 'hack'
[08:33] <Jatu> I'm don't want something easy lol X{
[08:33] <Jatu> XP
[08:33] <vancha> :P
[08:34] <henryC> iceroot:  So should there be another step?  apt-get install nginx reports no error, but seems to produce no binary either.
[08:34] <dr-willis> learn some actual skills. ;)
[08:34] <Jatu> dr-willis who ?
[08:34] <iceroot> !info | nginx oneiric
[08:34] <iceroot> !info  nginx oneiric
[08:35] <iceroot> henryC:   nginx-common nginx-full
[08:35] <iceroot> henryC: that are the packages which are pulled by nginx
[08:36] <iceroot> is there something like dpkg -L for not installed packages?
[08:36] <Jatu> lol
[08:36] <bilegt> do your chrome browsers lag when it loads page?
[08:36] <Jatu> Jake from london, uk why is your name hackme ?
[08:37] <Jatu> Bilegt make sure its not your connection first or your drivers.
[08:37] <Jatu> They could be causing the "lag"
[08:38] <henryC> iceroot:  ok, so any idea why it doesn't install an executable?  Not sure what I could have done to this server.  I've been running nginx compiled from source for years, but I wanted to change that.
[08:38] <vancha> Jatu: are you using a proxy?
[08:38] <Jatu> you can go to properties and choose for it to run as an executable
[08:39] <Jatu> vancha : No i am not why ?
[08:39] <vancha> nvm :O i was wondering why everyones IP adresses show when you click there names
[08:39] <bilegt> Jatu: can it any problem with compiz's opengl?
[08:39] <vancha> this is my first time on IRC here :)
[08:40] <dr-willis> vancha:  /whois nickname to see details
[08:40] <vancha> used to hang around in the ubuntu-nl and ubuntu-nl offtopic channes ^^
[08:40] <vancha> thx dr-willis
[08:40] <Jatu> Bilegt that would be out of my league. My browsers on lag during downtime. Either than that I have had no problem. It's just personal experience that suggests its a driver or connection problem. Does it last all day ?
[08:41] <Jatu> Or only happen random times of the day ?
[08:41] <bilegt> Jatu: all the time, when it loads a new page
[08:43] <Jatu> Bilegt did this problem start when you first came to using Ubuntu ?
[08:43] <bilegt> Jatu: it was all right when it was fresh installed. I deleted ~/.config/chromium and it's working smoothly. But my data are gone :(
[08:44] <Jatu> bilegt : Ah then yeah I have no clue what to tell you. I am also still learning and it seems out of my grasp. If I think of anything I will let you know.
[08:44] <Birliban> hi, i have to copy some several big files (2~18GB) to another location on same disk. what would be the fastest way to do it (terminal-based)? progress indicator (percent) would be appreciated. or is maybe packing it faster than copying?
[08:45] <bilegt> Jatu: maybe the problem is with the extensions I had installed
[08:45] <Guest56788> рш
[08:45] <Jatu> Bilegt : that actually sounds like a possiblity. Always check the extensions that are enabled or not enabled.
[08:45] <Guest56788> hi
[08:45] <vancha> Guest56788: hi :)
[08:45] <Jatu> Bilegt: Make sure only stuff you need is enabled.
[08:46] <dr-willis> Birliban:  why do you need a copy? you could make a link. unless you are editig the file
[08:46] <Jatu> Bilegt : Then check if there is a noteable difference.
[08:46] <bilegt> Jatu: Yeah
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Birliban: For a one time copy "cp" is as fast as anything. For a progress bar "rsync --progress /path/to/source /path/to/destination/". rsync also has other nice features, like makeing incremental copies *much* faster.
[08:48] <Jatu> Bilegt : Yeah what ? Or was it more a "okay I will check that" kinda yeah ?
[08:48] <bilegt> Jatu: I'll check that
[08:48] <Birliban> dr-willis, ok, some more details. the files are a vm-ware machine. i need to transfer to another server. for accessing the files the vm has to be shut down. so i first want to copy them and then send to the other server (slow connection).
[08:49] <Jatu> Bilegt : Kk let me know how it goes. I am going afk for a about 2-5 minutes to do something off the pc real quick.
[08:49] <Birliban> i just want to keep the vm-machine downtime low.
[08:49] <Jatu> bilegt : will notify when I am back
[08:53] <Jatu> Bilegt : I am back any luck ?
[08:55] <bilegt> Jatu: Yeah, it's weird. Now tabs are moving smoothly.
[08:55] <bilegt> Jatu: I've only installed two extensions.
[08:55] <Birliban> Jordan_U, i just need it one time. so maybe i use cp. there is no progress bar, is it?
[08:55] <Jatu> Bilegt : What extensions where those if you don't mind me asking.
[08:56] <bilegt> Jatu: xmarks, gmail and sooner
[08:56] <Jatu> Bilegt : Well  xmarks I never used. What I am thinking is they are trying to fetch extra data while your pages are loading. Possibly taking up extra bandwidth and causing it to slow.
[08:58] <bilegt> Jatu: Now I'll use this method on google chrome again :P
[08:58] <Jatu> Bilegt : Though I don't think it should take up much at all. Could be a more techincal problem. Glad I could be of some help though.
[08:58] <tpl2000> That hit the spot.
[08:59] <Jatu> Bilegt : Also my other suggestion is if you try the xtensions again and it persist posting on the forums and seeing if anyone else had the problem and found a fix.
[08:59] <tpl2000> Does anyone know why both dmidecode and LSHW display my RAM speed as 667mhz when it should be (6.67x240)mhz ?
[09:00] <Jatu> tpl2000 : could just be that they are not being read correctly or are just displayed differently.
[09:00] <tpl2000> That's the issue lol.  There is no resaon not to use "rsync --progress", just thought that you should know for the future that rsync is useful for a lot more than a progress bar :)
[09:01] <bilegt> Jatu: it's such a weird bug. I found it out. It was not about extensions. The problem is with after initial installation of chrome, it asks to setup chrome with google account. It made chrome such a laggy.
[09:02] <Jatu> bilegt : go faster once you set up google account ?
[09:02] <bilegt> Jatu: go faster, when I avoided it and installed extensions manually
[09:02] <zamba> i'd like to get 10 GB worth og /dev/urandom data and write that to file, 'dd' syntax for this?
[09:02] <dr-willis> dd if=path of=path
[09:02] <Jatu> bilegt : atleast you figured it out. Guess problem has been solved none the less lol.
[09:03] <dr-willis> zamba:  why are you doing this
[09:03] <zamba> dr-willis: i'm testing iscsi paths
[09:04] <zamba> dr-willis: you forgot to include the number of bytes i'd like to transfer
[09:05] <dr-willis> zamba:  time to read the dd man pages i think
[09:06] <dr-willis> you want to use the bs= options also if testing
[09:07] <mylisto> hey everyone
[09:07] <Jatu> Hey there
[09:07] <Jordan_U> zamba: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/file bs=1M count=10K
[09:07] <zamba> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[09:07] <Jordan_U> zamba: You're welcome.
[09:08] <mylisto> for some reason I can't adjust my sound volume...I'm getting "Waiting for sound system to respond" when I try to open the sound applet
[09:09] <tpl2000> How about this: Does anyone know how I can monitor my cpu temps?
[09:10] <Jatu> Do your drivers normally enable monitoring of cpu temp ?
[09:10] <orionsonofneptun> ypu
[09:10] <orionsonofneptun> yup
[09:10] <Jatu> As some don;t
[09:10] <tpl2000> Jatu: I can do it pretty well with speedfan in Windows already.
[09:10] <orionsonofneptun> thier is a code to put in terminal
[09:10] <tpl2000> I'm just looking to get the same functionality out of Ubuntu.
[09:10] <Jatu> Hmm
[09:11] <orionsonofneptun> i cant remember it
[09:11] <dr-willis> !info lmsensors
[09:11] <orionsonofneptun> yes thats it
[09:11] <Jatu> Ohh
[09:11] <dr-willis> may be lm-sensors
[09:11] <tpl2000> Yep
[09:11] <tpl2000> lm-sensors
[09:11] <dr-willis> most apps use lm-sensors to monitor that stuff
[09:11] <orionsonofneptun> lm sensors what is code
[09:11] <orionsonofneptun> i want to do that to
[09:12] <tpl2000> Alright. What apps are there, and which would you recommend?
[09:12] <dr-willis> !info lm-sensors
[09:12] <dr-willis> repo has seveal tools that display that stuff.
[09:12] <sun> sf
[09:12] <sun> hi
[09:12] <tpl2000> !info repo
[09:12] <Jatu> lol
[09:12] <Guest93046> who is alive
[09:12] <makara> hi. how can I enable Chinese input in 11.10? I've already added Chinese as a language
[09:12] <Guest93046> a
[09:13] <Guest93046> please help me with perl regexp
[09:13] <tpl2000> What is repo's actual name?
[09:13] <Guest93046> :)
[09:13] <dr-willis> !repo
[09:13] <Guest93046> who know this?
[09:13] <Jatu> Makara : Check at log in screen should be option to change default language I believe.
[09:13] <dr-willis> the standard repos.
[09:13] <tpl2000> Gotcha, repo=repository
[09:13] <Guest93046> who know perl????
[09:13] <orionsonofneptun> ok what to put in terminal to install lm-sensors on ubuntu 11.10
[09:13] <dr-willis> perl had tons of docs..
[09:13] <dr-willis> has.
[09:13] <tpl2000> Orions: Sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:14] <Jatu> He types faster than me lol
[09:14] <tpl2000> And on a crappy 15 year old dell keyboard ;)
[09:14] <dr-willis> tons of regrexp helper tools out there also.
[09:14] <orionsonofneptun> Sudo apt-get install lm-sensors  did not work
[09:14] <Jatu> Lol I am using a dell d610 tell I sell my game console I no longer use
[09:14] <dr-willis> im typing on my cellphone here. )
[09:14] <Guest93046> how i can write to variable. text like template???
[09:14] <tpl2000> What did it say, Orion?
[09:14] <dr-willis> bbl
[09:14] <Jatu> Try "apt-get lm-sensors"
[09:15] <makara> Jatu: I don't want Chinese interface, just Chinese input. I can change to Hindi / Tibetan, but not Chinese it seems
[09:15] <Guest93046> а русские есть?
[09:15] <orionsonofneptun> sudo: command not found
[09:15] <io> !ru | Guest93046
[09:15] <Jatu> Makara : Ah I see what you mean but unfortunately have not delved that much into it.
[09:15] <tpl2000> Wut
[09:15] <Jatu> Orion try adding sudo infront
[09:15] <Guest93046> plz give me channel where i can get help with perl???
[09:16] <Jatu> !info perl
[09:16] <orionsonofneptun> jatu invaled op lm-sensors
[09:16] <tpl2000> Are you sure you're using the terminal, and not a box of cheerios?
[09:16] <Jatu> No clue then besides searching software center or google lol
[09:16] <Guest93046> info i know but it's more large
[09:17] <Jatu> I was just seeing what info would come
[09:17] <Jatu> Lol
[09:17] <Jatu> I have no clue where to go for perl specific support sorry mate
[09:18] <waheed> hi, I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and the places, system, and applications menus have disappeared without any customization I done..how to display it again??
[09:18] <waheed> help !!
[09:19] <tpl2000> From the top bar, Waheed?
[09:19] <Jatu> Waheed : Give people a second to reply please.
[09:19] <io> Jatu: ##perl
[09:19] <io> !patience | waheed
[09:19] <waheed> tpl2000 yes, the top bar disappeared
[09:19] <reenignEesreveR> so i've got an ethernet cable on which i can assign multiple IPs to a machine. how do make my Ubuntu actually use those ip addresses?
[09:19] <Jatu> Guest93046 : still here ?
[09:19] <tpl2000> The entire top bar disappeared, or just those options @ Waheed
[09:20] <waheed> tpl2000  the bar still there, but those options disappeared
[09:20] <larryone> waheed, Alt+F1 will get you access to the menu
[09:20] <larryone> if you're stuck
[09:20] <hiexpo> waheed, maybe gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[09:21] <tpl2000> Try clicking on the desktop and then clicking on the top bar.
[09:21] <Jatu> Alright everyone I will be back later. Ciao' for now o/
[09:21] <larryone> in the meantime, you can right click on the bar, and therer will be an option to add stuff
[09:21] <VictorCL> hi , how can I make a tar of a folder , but skip a folder inside that folder ?¿
[09:21] <io> waheed: '$ unity --reset'
[09:21] <tpl2000> alt+f1 brings up the unity bar. He's talking about the top bar, apparently.
[09:22] <larryone> aah
[09:22] <io> VictorCL: '$ tar -cf all.tar --exclude test *'
[09:22] <io> VictorCL: '$ man tar' in future for more options
[09:22] <hiexpo> waheed, is it a gnome desktop or unity ?
[09:22] <amxpogorelov> quit
[09:22]  * larryone was assuming gnome
[09:22]  * tpl2000 is assuming Unity.
[09:23] <larryone> right, tpl2000 we gonna fight?
[09:23]  * hiexpo assumeing gnome also
[09:23] <larryone> bare nuckle?
[09:23] <orionsonofneptun> ok how hot is 50 degrees celcius in ferinheigth
[09:23] <larryone> outnumbered!
[09:23] <tpl2000> Larryone Lawl, sure. Let me get my socks 'n' rocks.
[09:23] <orionsonofneptun> ive installed lm sensors
[09:23] <temper> I'm having a hard time getting volume control back on 10.04
[09:23] <larryone> orionsonofneptun, 50 celcius will have you sweating lakes
[09:23] <waheed> it was gnome, but i run that command now "unity --reset" and it is unity now
[09:24] <waheed> wanna go back to gnome
[09:24] <orionsonofneptun> and aparently only one sensor is in dell insperon
[09:24] <tpl2000> Orionsofneptun Fahrenheit = (9/5)C+32
[09:24] <larryone> 37degreed C is body temperature
[09:24] <hiexpo> temper, what on the bar
[09:24] <llutz> orionsonofneptun: 50 Grad Celsius = 122 Fahrenheit
[09:24] <orionsonofneptun> wow
[09:24] <temper> hiexpo: nothing is on the bar
[09:24] <orionsonofneptun> hot cpu it says i can take twice that heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:24]  * larryone is amazed that some places still use fahrenheit
[09:24] <temper> hiexpo: never mind...I finally found the right directions..thanks anyhow
[09:25] <orionsonofneptun> im only a farenheight guy
[09:25] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[09:25] <tpl2000> orionsofneptun: You can not take 100 degrees celsius. You would die, and your computer would die.
[09:25] <tpl2000> orionsofneptun: 65 degrees celsius is a typical overheating point for a processor.
[09:25] <orionsonofneptun> it says 105 celcius is cpu critical
[09:26] <tpl2000> Are you on a desktop or a laptop?
[09:26] <orionsonofneptun> laptop
[09:26] <larryone> you could make a grand cup of tea with that
[09:26] <orionsonofneptun> dell isperon
[09:26] <hiexpo> orionsonofneptun, yes that is like 205  or something far
[09:26] <orionsonofneptun> old school
[09:26] <tpl2000> Ah, that'd explain it. Laptop CPUs generally have to put up with much higher temperatures.
[09:26] <orionsonofneptun> x86
[09:26]  * larryone dissapears to go fix some caching configs
[09:27] <tpl2000> Regardless, if you put a pot of water on the bottom of your laptop at that temp, the water would boil
[09:27] <tpl2000> 100 degrees celsius = 212 degrees fahrenheit.
[09:27] <kalimojo> anyone heard of artificial telepathy ?
[09:27] <tpl2000> !ot | Kalimojo
[09:27] <orionsonofneptun> definately off topic there
[09:28] <orionsonofneptun> dang almost beat ubottu
[09:28] <tpl2000> XD
[09:28] <tpl2000> brb, rebooting
[09:28] <tpl2000> (Like a boss: Sudo reboot)
[09:28] <vlt> kalimojo: It's called empathy
[09:29] <orionsonofneptun> come on someone give me some good uses for ubuntu 11.10
[09:30] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: use it for what you want
[09:30] <orionsonofneptun> what type of people you think mainly like ubuntu
[09:30] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: that is offtopic here and no relevence
[09:31] <orionsonofneptun> ok then
[09:31] <ikonia> orionsonofneptun: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only
[09:31] <orionsonofneptun> ill hold the phillocify for #ubuntu offtopic
[09:32] <Mongoose_> Downloaded the VirtualBox OSE last night. Don't know much about it but wanted to try Ubuntu the next version after Natty. Is this an easy thing to do or complicated?
[09:32] <ikonia> !vbox | Mongoose_
[09:33] <Mongoose_> thanks
[09:34] <waheed> tpl2000  still here?\
[09:34] <sjihs> Hi, I have a machine with 8GB of RAM. I have installed 32-bit version of ubuntu 11.04 on it. The 'free -m' command reports a total RAM of 4GB even though /proc/cpuinfo indicated PAE is enabled.
[09:36] <dr-willis> if the cpu can do 64bit you are better off using the 64bit ubuntu
[09:36] <dr-willis> check what kernel you are runing also
[09:36] <dr-willis> uname -a      to see. (i think)
[09:37] <dr-willis> cpuinfo may be telling you the cpu supports pae....
[09:38] <richo> Hey
[09:38] <richo> So I want to install ubuntu.. with no X server, no desktop environment
[09:38] <richo> basically just a kernel, coreutils and a fairly minimal userland
[09:38] <richo> is there even a way to do that?
[09:39] <sjihs> dr-willis: The laptop is given by the company where i work. Hence i cannot re-install another version of ubuntu
[09:39] <OerHeks> richo, use the server iso
[09:39] <richo> OerHeks: there's nothing else that differs from the desktop install? Just the default suite of installed pacakges?
[09:40] <sjihs> dr-willis: Just curious, How does 'uname -a' help in determining kernel support for PAE?
[09:41] <dr-willis> look at kernel used
[09:41] <dr-willis> may have pae in the name
[09:41] <OerHeks> richo i am not sure what you want with a minimal install without a desktop environment, but server iso or the alternate iso can do that
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> richo: there is the minimal ISO
[09:42] <richo_> Thanks!
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> richo: you can install minimal then install openbox and you will have one of the slimmest OSes around, comes in at around 1.2Gb
[09:43] <richo_> ActionParsnip: that's more or less the plan. I run a fork of openbox + urxvt and a few other bits and pieces. I'll install a lot of software but I prefer to start clean slate
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> richo: you can install slim or some other login manager if you want a GUI login :)
[09:43] <richo_> I'm good with a tty :)
[09:44] <richo_> and 10.10 was an LTS I believe?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> richo_: np :), you can always use: su -c  to run startx from /etc/rc.local to get straight to the desktop :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> richo_: no, maverick is EOL next month too
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> richo_: 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS
[09:45] <richo_> Perfect, thanks.
[09:45] <richo_> work mandates full disk encryption so going straight to the desktop is a bit moot.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> richo_: indeed
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> richo_: its one way to do it though. Negates the need for a login manager (saves space)
[09:48] <richo_> true. I just login on a TTY and then call xinit
[09:48] <richo_> I set some expensive values in my environment anyway so I do a bunch of init only when SHLVL = 1 which saves me a lot of time too
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> richo_: nice
[09:51] <makara> how can I enable Chinese input in 11.10? I've already added Chinese as a language
[09:54] <psycho_oreos> afaik you need something like scim for instance. Chinese language only gives you Chinese dialogues, menus, etc but not Chinese input iinm
[09:55] <OerHeks> makara, maybe answer #1 is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59356/how-do-i-get-chinese-input-to-work
[09:56] <waheed> my file system partition is running out of free space, I wanna increase its size by adding "merging" another partition I have to it, without affecting my system, is that possible?
[09:56] <dljh> How do I go about learning how to create themes for ubuntu 11.10 (unity) ?
[09:57] <asc__> hi
[09:57] <asc__> i have two commands i want to combine so they display combined output
[09:58] <dljh> asc__, &&
[09:58] <theTroy> Trying to do some bash scripting, could someone tell me what is wrong with this if statement please?
[09:58] <theTroy> do if [  ! -e  /home/troy/Photos/1920/1920_$i  -a   [ "$i" == *.JPG* ]  ];
[09:58] <asc__> does not work
[09:58] <Lantizia> Hey if I wanted to install an ISO of vyatta that includes bug #7771 fixed - how would I go about it?  (maybe download the latest stable and patch it myself?)
[09:58] <becom33> Im having this error on boot and my ubunut doest load , it says "error : hd0 read error"
[09:58] <asc__> dljh, does not combine the output
[09:58] <dljh> asc__, sudo gedit && sudo lspci | grep VGA
[09:58] <Lantizia> damn wrong channel - and thus wrong bug lol
[09:59] <asc__> for example "ls -Shs && file *
[09:59] <anonymous> hello
[09:59] <asc__> just executes the commands but does not combine the output
[09:59] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[09:59] <OerHeks> waheed, yes you can, use the gparted live cd to increase/merge a partition, your partition needs to be unmounted to do so.
[09:59] <dljh> Oh, I see what you're saying.  I just bought a new laptop and I want to run ubuntu and windows. Dual boot or VM?
[10:00] <taglass> comman1 && command2 executes command2 if and only if command1 was successful.
[10:00] <ikonia> becom33: please stop saying "anyone" - if someone can help and wants to, they will
[10:01] <asc__> taglass, i need to learn a little bash programming
[10:01] <becom33> should I repeat my question ? ikonia . otherwise it might get stand behind :/
[10:01] <ikonia> becom33: if you've left it 10 - 15 minutes since you last asked it, sure
[10:01] <ahhughez> history tells me that a nix intsall will out live a windows.... so I was thinking ubuntu with win7 vm... anyone care to compare this with the reverse or with dual boot?
[10:01] <hoshi411> is it just me or is the omgubuntu site down?
[10:01] <taglass> yeah I'm trying to understand exactly it is you want.  "combine output" is pretty vague
[10:02] <hoshi411> i haven't been able to connect for the past two days
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> ahhughez: depends what the Windows OS is for...
[10:02] <laurent_> hello
[10:02] <makara> becom33: something wrong with your disk
[10:03] <ahhughez> ActionParsnip, just using apps that I need occasionally. Plus dev testing
[10:03] <becom33> makara, is there anyway I can ensure whats wrong ?
[10:03] <asc__> taglass, for example: ls -Shs prints the filesize and the file name and file * prints the type of the file (files in the dir have no extensions)
[10:03] <csis> asc__,  just flush everything after each command to /dev/stdout, I think that's what you're looking for
[10:03] <cowslammer> how do I get sun java?
[10:03] <asc__> taglass, the thing i want is output is combined like this: filename, filesize, filetype
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ahhughez: windows in VM will be ok then imho
[10:04] <hoshi411> i believe that the site is located at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk
[10:04] <hoshi411> but that page will not load
[10:04] <asc__> csis, I know not what are you speaking of :D
[10:04] <hoshi411> i used to go there all the  time to get info about ubuntu
[10:05] <cowslammer> how do I get sun java?
[10:05] <orionsonofneptun> ok i installed eggdrop irc robot and i cant see where it went in ubuntu 11.10 so how can i find it
[10:05] <waheed> OerHeks : liveCD ?? I have gparted installed..can I use it directly?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> hoshi411: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk
[10:05] <asc__> orionsonofneptun, type: which eggdrop
[10:06] <OerHeks> waheed, no, because your partition is in use ( mounted ) when you try gparted
[10:06] <richo_> orionsonofneptun: dpkg -L eggdrop
[10:06] <dljh> orionsonofneptun: edit it's .conf file and make sure you have the server and channel settings correct, then restart it.
[10:06] <dljh> How do I go about learning how to create themes for ubuntu 11.10 (unity) ?
[10:07] <waheed> OerHeks : but I don't know what is gpated live cd ?!
[10:07] <hoshi411> ActionParsnip:  but the thing is , i see action on their site from google only 17 hours ago, which means ... they are off and on and off and on?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> hoshi411: contact them via facebook or similar
[10:08] <cowslammer> how do I get sun java?
[10:08] <ahhughez> cowslammer, I would say its no longer.... sun was aquired by oracle... look for the openjdk
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: sun don't own java anymore
[10:08] <waheed> OerHeks : can I do it using herins boot?
[10:08] <OerHeks> waheed, it is small, 125 mb >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/0.12.0-5/
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: if you can give the output of:  uname -m   I can advise
[10:09] <OerHeks> waheed i am not sure, hirens could do that too with ext3/ext4
[10:09] <cowslammer> ok, how do i get oracle java?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: read above
[10:09] <hashinclude> I have installed the ATI proprietrary drivers and they are working however there are some glitches like docky leaves some kind of glitch while unhiding and the window movement is laggy...
[10:09] <ahhughez> If I want to run ubuntu with win7 and poosibly xp VM's what filesystem should I be using?
[10:10] <waheed> OerHeks : ok, but what about my system and stuff, I don't care about the other artition, I care about the one where ubuntu is installed which I want to enlarge
[10:10] <ikonia> !virtualisation | ahhughez
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ahhughez: Win7 as a VM, or a dual boot?
[10:10] <richo_> Why no mention of Xen ?
[10:10] <OerHeks> waheed, general: allways make a backup of important stuff.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: if you can give the output of: uname -m   I can advise
[10:11] <waheed> OerHeks : not about stuff, it is about the installed system, would I lost it?
[10:12] <cowslammer> ActionParsnip, the output of uname -m is i686 and i'm using 10.4 ubuntu
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: ok, gimme a sec
[10:12] <OerHeks> waheed, it should be safe to increase.
[10:12] <ahhughez> ikonia, ActionParsnip - thanks, I intend to try VirtualBox, but I want to make sure I pick the correct filesystem.
[10:13] <larryone> i dont like when the update manager gets resource hungry - I've got loads of processing power on my machine, but only 1GB RAM =0(
[10:14] <larryone> updating makes slow happen
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: cd; wget
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitjava; sudo ./install32bitjava
[10:17] <A_J> started my ubuntu pc after a while and it just after the BIOS screen does  " - " in the upper left corner. what should I do ?
[10:17] <gr33n7007h> A_J, Nothing
[10:17] <Nucleus> Hello, i have a problem, i have a partition with windows 7 installed in a Raid disk, i want to install ubuntu so i have created a partition ext4 primary with the boot point ( / ) and a swap logical. As i have always did when i wanted to install ubuntu. At this time since its a raid disk i received this error message when i was about to install it: " Failed to create a file system " : The ext4 file system creation in partition #2 of se
[10:17] <orionsonofneptun> how long did you wait a_j
[10:17] <Nucleus> Dont know what to do.
[10:18] <A_J> orionsonofneptun well it's yet happening
[10:18] <A_J> for about 3 mins
[10:18] <taglass> asc__, for f in *; do ls -Shs "$f" >> results1 && file "$f" >> results2; done; sed -i 's/://' results2; join -1 2 -2 1 results1 results2 >> results3 should get you started in the right direction I think
[10:18] <asc__> taglass, thank you, was just trying to do  similar thing :)
[10:18] <orionsonofneptun> ive seen it go before for like 10 minutes then work ok but thats not normal
[10:19] <A_J> okie i'll wait
[10:19] <taglass> asc__, The only hangup I can see is if your filename contains a ":"
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: it assumes you use chromium browser, so link the file to whatever browser you use if you don't use chromium
[10:21] <dljh> hashashin: Yes, I had the same issue. If you don't plan on gaming or don't depend on 3d acceleration, just use the open source driver it comes with. That's what I use and everything works excellent.
[10:21] <A_J> ActionParsnip o/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> A_J: howdy
[10:24] <cowslammer> ActionParsnip, i use firefox.  what gets linked to what?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: you can link it in ~/.mozilla/plugs   I don't know where the universal folder is as I haven't used firefox is ages
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> sorry ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:26] <mydogsnameisrudy> wonders what ActionParsnip is using then?
[10:28] <A_J> ActionParsnip : started my ubuntu pc after a while and it just after the BIOS screen does  " - " in the upper left corner. what should I do ? | been 10 mins.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what GPU do you use?
[10:28] <A_J> none ActionParsnip. an intel atom board here
[10:29] <makara> becom33: plug into another computer and check if its working
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> A_J: well there is, or the system wouldn't POST
[10:30] <dljh> ActionParsnip: unplug all of your plugnplays and restart and see if that works (i.e. printers/mouse etc)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> A_J: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> dljh: i don't have a sing ubuntu issue..
[10:30] <A_J> ActionParsnip umm where do i eneter that. via live cd ?
[10:31] <dljh> A_J:  unplug all of your plug and play stuff, like your printer etc and reboot.
[10:31] <dljh> ActionParsnip: sorry :P
[10:32] <A_J> dljh i booted  up after like 1 week. i did that
[10:32] <A_J> yet a flashing -
[10:32] <dljh> A_J: Great. Unplug everything and reboot.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> A_J: hold shift and you can press E to edit the boot, you can add the boot option there
[10:33]  * A_J tries it now
[10:33] <rwp__engineer> hello room
[10:33] <Nucleus> Hello, i have a problem, i have a partition with windows 7 installed in a Raid disk, i want to install ubuntu so i have created a partition ext4 primary with the boot point ( / ) and a swap logical.
[10:33] <rwp__engineer> Please Help automate ||LibreOffice Calc || Insert > Sheet from File ||
[10:34] <Nucleus> As i have always did when i wanted to install ubuntu. At this time since its a raid disk i received this error message when i was about to install it: " Failed to create a file system " : The ext4 file system creation in partition #2 of serial ATA RAID JMICRON_JRaid ( mirror ) failed.
[10:34] <rwp__engineer> Please Help automate ||LibreOffice Calc || Insert > Sheet from File || in ubuntu
[10:34] <Nucleus> Can anyone give me support please.
[10:34] <rwp__engineer> hi nucleus
[10:34] <rwp__engineer> wats the issue
[10:35] <A_J> ActionParsnip OKIE. i did shift E, quite a lot of stuff comes where do i put nomodeset
[10:35] <rwp__engineer> hey Nucleus have u tried using ext3 or ext 2 for ur / partition?
[10:35] <A_J> says ctrl +c for CLI
[10:35] <rwp__engineer> try this article
[10:35] <rwp__engineer> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/failed-to-create-a-file-system-795245/
[10:36] <rwp__engineer> Please Help automate ||LibreOffice Calc || Insert > Sheet from File || in ubuntu ??
[10:37] <Nucleus> I will read it rwp just one question before, whats the difference between ext2 ext3 or ext4 ?
[10:37] <tintoy> hi hello, anyone can help me, how to setup openvpn with windows client, pls help
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> rwp__engineer: is there no shortcut key mentioned in the menu to use?
[10:37] <rileyp> one is the difference :D
[10:37] <gr33n7007h> A_J, on the kernel line
[10:38] <gr33n7007h> goodbye!!
[10:38] <A_J> okie
[10:38] <rwp__engineer> hi ActionParsnip : no shortcut key mentioned | also i want to automate it in some script or macro
[10:38] <A_J> ActionParsnip i do ctlr + c and type this in ?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> A_J: type it, grub has no clipboard
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> A_J: if you delete: quiet splash      you can type it there
[10:39]  * A_J is confused
[10:39] <A_J> wait a sec ActionParsnip
[10:39] <DarkStar1> I just setup my new machine with 11.10. I installed the nVidia driver, restarted the machine and since only one screen can be used at anyone time. How can I revert back to the default that came with the 11.10 installation
[10:39] <DarkStar1> ?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: dual you use dual screens?
[10:40] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: Yeah
[10:40] <rwp__engineer> Nucleus http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: if you run:  nvidia-settings    then hit the detect display button, do both come to life?
[10:40] <rwp__engineer> Please Help automate ||LibreOffice Calc || Insert > Sheet from File || in ubuntu|| I want to automate it in command
[10:40] <rwp__engineer> Please Help automate ||LibreOffice Calc || Insert > Sheet from File || in ubuntu|| I want to automate it in command  or macro
[10:41] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I removed the nVidia drivers to see if things will return to default but no joy
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> rwp__engineer: if you upgrade to Precise, you can use HUD which will make that easier
[10:42] <Nucleus> [rwp__engineer]: Thank you
[10:42] <A_J|> http://i.imgur.com/ma1hJ.jpg
[10:42] <A_J> ActionParsnip ^^
[10:43] <A_J> what do i do next
[10:43] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I re-enabled and it fixed it
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> A_J: as I said. dete the: quiet splash   and add the boot option..
[10:44] <rwp__engineer> thanks ActionParsnip i am checking Precise
[10:45] <A_J> okie ActionParsnip. which would be nomodeset
[10:45] <A_J> i'll take a pic to confirm ActionParsnip standby
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> rwp__engineer: its prerelease but when it comes out, HUD will be default and you can hit left ALT and type what you need, the menu items are read and makes things a bit easier
[10:47] <dljh> ActionParsnip: you using Precise?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> dljh: indeed
[10:48] <dljh> ActionParsnip:  how's it running?
[10:48] <A_J|> http://i.imgur.com/gtYyx.jpg
[10:48] <A_J> ActionParsnip
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> dljh: fine for me, but  my hardware is super linux friendly, my needs are basic and I use Unity 2D :)
[10:49] <konza> Hi all, I have a 25 gb file it has only two columns. I want to apply 2 level of sorting. When i do it using command line it takes 5 hours to complete. I have 16 processors. Now the process is using only 1 cpu. How can i force linux to allot multiple cpu to a single process
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> A_J: yes, thats what I said to do. Now continue the boot.
[10:50] <dljh> ActionParsnip: I see.
[10:50] <dljh> ActionParsnip:  dual head?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> dljh: no, I hae 1 screen for 4 PCs
[10:51] <A_J_> ActionParsnip : http://i.imgur.com/gtYyx.jpg
[10:51] <dljh> ActionParsnip o_O
[10:51] <A_J_> sorry dced :(
[10:51] <rwp__engineer> ActionParsnip I have libreoffice 3.5.0 what is HUD and precise and how can i install it?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> rwp__engineer: the internet will tell you more about hud than I can. Precise is the next release of Ubuntu and is LTS
[10:51] <dljh> ActionParsnip : you're almost completely vice versa of me, heh.
[10:52] <fAz4> is it possible to choose the repo while installing by apt ?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> fAz4: not during, no
[10:52] <fAz4>  ActionParsnip: so i should delete the ppa !? for installing the main version ?!
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> dljh: one is my media pc, one is a fileserver, torrent server, one is my backup server and one is my GFs lappy :)
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> fAz4: which PPA? you haven't given any context
[10:54] <fAz4>  ActionParsnip: i've added nightly build firefox, and i want to install the stable firefox now
[10:54] <A_J> ActionParsnip it;s okie ? http://i.imgur.com/gtYyx.jpg
[10:54] <fAz4>  ActionParsnip:  so i must delete the nightly ppa
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> fAz4: then use ppa-purge and it should roll back the pp too. If not just uninstall it then reinstall it and the stable will be used
[10:55] <konza> Hi all, I have a 25 gb file it has only two columns. I want to apply 2 level of sorting. When i do it using command line it takes 5 hours to complete. I have 16 processors. Now the process is using only 1 cpu. How can i force linux to allot multiple cpu to a single process
[10:55] <rwp__engineer> ActionParsnip oh i dont want to upgrade to unstable version , HUD is just HEAD;s UP Disply an addition to unity but i am lookinNg for AUTOMATING libreoffice simple taks like insert a sheet
[10:55] <rileyp> fAz4: open sysnaptic and remove the repo
[10:55] <fAz4> rileyp: that's what i dont wanna do, i dont want to delete ppa !
[10:55] <ayaka> i install ubuntu in vbox, it once can see the eth0, but now can't lspci show it, but I can't use ifconfig to up it, what is up?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> A_J: yes its fine, as its what I described for you to do
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: even if its wrong, its just for that boot so doesn't hurt anything
[10:56] <dljh> ActionParsnip Why do they all have one monitor though?
[10:56] <rileyp> faz then just disable it
[10:56] <rileyp> manually edit with a #
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> dljh: the others are headless and managed via web ui or ssh
[10:56] <rileyp> or untick in sysnaptic
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> dljh: why would they need monitors?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> dljh: i said I have 1 monitor for 4 systems...
[10:58] <soulnafein> This morning in ubuntu 11.10 my gnome shell started crashing when search applications. This is the error I see in syslog: http://pastie.org/3607318
[10:58] <dljh> ActionParsnip ehh, I guess they wouldn't. I however can't stand not having at least 2 heads (have 3) but I do web development/web design/graphic design.
[10:58] <soulnafein> I've been using the nvidia driver from the ppa/
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> rwp__engineer: I'd post on the openoffice forum too. May help
[10:58] <dljh> ActionParsnip and where'd you find a headless laptop? :)
[10:58] <rwp__engineer> oh ok let me also try that
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> dljh: the lappy is my ladies, I don't use it. Its all hers
[10:59] <rwp__engineer> ActionParsnip thaks i will post there too
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: I'd contact the PPA maintainers
[10:59] <A_J__> ActionParsnip some text is scrolling on screen, how long would it take to finish
[10:59] <soulnafein> ActionParsnip, the libnvidia maintainers?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: whoever manages the PPA you used
[11:01] <dljh> ActionParsnip: maybe you can help me... do you know of any good tuts for creating a unity theme? I don't have a problem taking an existing one, editing the xml file and changing the .pngs, but I'd like to have it explained.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> A_J__: as long as a normal boot
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> dljh: no idea dude, I don't theme much at all
[11:02] <dljh> Alrighty
[11:03] <A_J|> Actionparsnip its going on for quite a while now like 10mins
[11:04] <A_J|> Hmm
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> A_J|: if its an intel gpu then nomodeset can help. If it's nvidia then try:  nouveau.blacklist=1   I'd check your system spec
[11:04] <konza> Hi all, Can a single process be split into multiple processors?
[11:05] <jc2000> hello I need help with a printer
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: what make and model printer? What is the issue?
[11:06] <A_J|> Actionparsnip base end intel atom so its intel gpu. Its yet running so i guess i let it run ?
[11:06] <jc2000> Brother MFC-J220 its not in the add printer list
[11:07] <jc2000> ActionParsnip: Brother MFC-J220 its not in the add printer list
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: did you check the brother site, they DO make brother drivers
[11:07] <jc2000> yes And I did install their driver but nothing had add to the list
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: did you install both parts of the driver?
[11:08] <jc2000> It only gave me one file
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: no, there are 2 deb files
[11:09] <jc2000> where? I only found one
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: you need to install http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/mfcj220lpr-1.1.3-1.i386.deb
[11:09] <jc2000> what Is their titles?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> then install http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/mfcj220cupswrapper-1.1.3-1.i386.deb
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: those are the links to the files you need, and in order
[11:09] <jc2000> Ok
[11:09] <jc2000> I will report you
[11:09] <A_J|> Actionparsnip http://i.imgur.com/uiEKC.jpg
[11:10] <A_J|> Looks like its looping
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> A_J|: the IO error doesn't sound good
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> A_J|: test the ram using memtest
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: like I said, there are 2 files...
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: source: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#DCP-145C
[11:12] <A_J|> Can it be a hdd issue ActionParsnip, cause hdd sentinal sait had low health
[11:12] <A_J|> Said*
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> A_J|: sounds likely
[11:12] <rileyp> A_J i had a simular fault and it was the molex connecing power to the sata power cable was faulty
[11:13] <rileyp> Pushed it in a a small tool problem solved
[11:13] <A_J|> Okie rileyp ill check
[11:14] <A_J|> Ty ActionParsnip for your help mate
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> np
[11:14] <rileyp>  A_J|: you may notice hdd makes no noise as well! screwdriver stethoscope!
[11:14] <jc2000> ActionParsnip: look like its working. thank you very much
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> jc2000: good when you install stuff right eh ;)
[11:16] <ofaurax_boulot> hello!
[11:16] <ofaurax_boulot> by default, xterm and the gnome terminal supportes colors (at least 16)
[11:17] <ofaurax_boulot> if I do "echo $TERM", I get "xterm" for both
[11:17] <ofaurax_boulot> shouldn't it be "xterm-color" ?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ofaurax_boulot: same here in Precise, you can change it if you like ni ~/.bashrc
[11:20] <ayaka> thank you
[11:21] <Error4o4> how can I update the ATI catalyst driver. can I just download the latest one and install it? any idea  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:24] <rileyp>  Error4o4 google for a guide installing ati drivers is trick trick trick
[11:25] <Error4o4> rileyp: i installed it, but wondering if i need to uninstall the old before installing the new.. cant fint that info
[11:26] <ofaurax_boulot> ActionParsnip: wouldn't be an idea to set it by default to xterm-color ?
[11:26] <ikonia> Error4o4: II would advice advise against using external sites, such as ati.com
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ofaurax_boulot: i'd try it in ~/.bashrc first, then apply it systemwide once you know its ok
[11:27] <Nucleus> rwp__engineer i believe i need this driver jmicron jmb36x for ubuntu but i cant find any, im saying this because i needed it for installing windows, but for windows was easy to find. im 95% sure that its problem of the driver.
[11:27] <rileyp> Error4o4:  Im with ikonia find a guide
[11:27] <Nucleus> Could you help me finding this driver ?
[11:28] <techquila> anyone else using studio, having issues opening youtube... thought it was an isolated problem on one machine.. same thing happening on another machine in same network now
[11:28] <theishi> not too sure what I did wrong, but my screen looks bad. It looks like the display drivers are wrong or something. Everything looked great until I rebooted. In the control panel, under color, it says 'no devices supporting color detected' not sure if it said that before though.... I am not sure where to start
[11:28] <rileyp> Error4o4 and not the ati.com one
[11:28] <theishi> it seems like the resolution is off
[11:29] <dr3mro> hello
[11:30] <Error4o4> rileyp: not sure I understand.. I shouldn't follow ATI instructions or ?
[11:31] <dr3mro> hello how to disable usb modem cd rom from auto mount ??
[11:31] <rileyp> Error404 http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/how-to-install-atiamd-catalyst-linux.html
[11:32] <nicofs> I just installed Lubuntu on a system running Xubuntu - after purging Xubuntu at startup I get "xsession: could not start xfce-session. loading default" (or similar) - so apparently LXDE is the default already. how do i configure my system to use the default by default?
[11:32] <marcin28> Hello what is name of package that say in console "The program ... is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:"
[11:32] <Error4o4> rileyp: thx
[11:33] <rileyp> Error4o4 Nvidia is the only way for  hd video in linux
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: log off, then log in to the LXDE session and it will be remembered
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> marcin28: command-not-found afaik
[11:34] <Error4o4> rileyp: thx, ATI is what I got at work
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !info command-not-found
[11:34] <dr3mro> hello how to disable usb modem cd rom from auto mount ??
[11:35] <rileyp> Error4o4 all good sometimes we have to make the most of what we have
[11:35] <marcin28> ActionParsnip, Thank you :)
[11:36] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, sadly, it won't...
[11:36] <Islam> how to completely remove wine ? its not working properly and I need to reinstall it ?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: the last session should be remembered for the user
[11:37] <soreau> Islam: try apt-get remove --purge <pkg>
[11:37] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, tried that... I always get back to the error above...
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Islam: delete ~/.wine and there is a folder in ~/.config/menus/integratedmenus or somesuch, which need deleting too
[11:37] <DarkApex> islam: type "sudo apt-get purge <package>"
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: you could symlink the xfce-session to the lxde-session (bit of a hack but should work)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Islam: the~/.wine  folder holds all configs and apps you install via wine
[11:38] <ldroege> poü
[11:39] <sara2010> hi
[11:39] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, that could work... but I'd rather know why there are still remnants of xfce-session when it is completely purged...
[11:39] <ldroege> b
[11:39] <ldroege> b
[11:39] <sara2010> any one alive
[11:39] <ldroege> b
[11:39] <FloodBot1> ldroege: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <sara2010> i have install 10.10 in my pc
[11:39] <sara2010> but mouse is not working
[11:39] <Islam> ActionParsnip: where can I find the wine folder ?
[11:40] <sara2010> Islam .. locate wine
[11:40] <DarkApex> Islam: in your home directory
[11:40] <sara2010> Islam .. or  whereis wine
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Islam: where I said. It is ~/.wine or /home/$USER/.wine or $HOME/.wine
[11:40] <DarkApex> press ctrl+H
[11:40] <cheese4stake> i have old pc,want 2 upgrade to dual core.....which cpu would u suggest intel or amd 4 budget pc to run kde smoothly
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Islam: same difference
[11:40] <sara2010> ActionParsnip .. help me
[11:40] <ikonia> cheese4stake: no difference
[11:41] <Islam> DarkApex : I aready removed it with apt-get remove, what should I do now to completely remove it
[11:41] <sara2010> ActionParsnip .. i have install ubuntu 10.10 in my pc but mouse is not working !
[11:41] <rull> libertyprime: qq
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> cheese4stake: what is the system to be used for?
[11:41] <DarkApex> Islam: try doing sudo apt-get purge again
[11:41] <DarkApex> not remove purge
[11:41] <cheese4stake> do i need a graphics card ? also i would be playing some games and liesure work on excel
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> sara2010: Maverick is EOL next month. I'd install a newer release
[11:42] <Krissed> Isnt maverick LTS ?
[11:42] <ikonia> no
[11:42] <Islam> DarkApex : whats the full text I should type for the purge ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: no, 10.04 (lucid) is LTS and 12.04 (Precise) is LTS
[11:42] <sara2010> ActionParsnip .. old one will not work ?
[11:42] <Nucleus> jmicron jmb36x does anyone knows where can i get this driver for ubuntu ? I cant find it anywhere.
[11:42] <DarkApex> Islam: "sudo apt-get purge <package>"
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> sara2010: it will, but when it dies next month you will get no support here and no more updates
[11:42] <Krissed> Im just waiting for 12.04 in 46 days..I hope they will ditch unity though.
[11:42] <braiam> Islam, sudo apt-get purge list-of-packages
[11:43] <Krissed> ActionParsnip isnt 11.04 LTS as well ?
[11:43] <techquila> it seems i have a locally isolated issue  thats driving me nuts as i administer this network and haven't blocked youtube but cant access it on any browser... any thoughts or am i simply in the wrong channel for this sort of issue?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: you can install Xubuntu 12.04 and not get Unity...
[11:43] <sara2010> ActionParsnip ..  okay now what i do ? how mouse will work ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: no, only the 2 I mentioned are LTS, as is Hardy (on server only)
[11:43] <Krissed> never tried xubuntu. im only used to gnome. .arere there any other cool x out ? (not counting KDE)
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> sara2010: I'd reinstall with Oneiric
[11:44] <tiox> [Priority: low] I want to add a command at shutdown that runs update-grub because I am tired of manually updating grub and this would relieve some issues with using systems on USB drives. On occasion when the rive is removed it's still seen in grub, and having grub regenerate grub.cfg every time resolves this issue so I was thinking having it run as a shutdown script would just be easier.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: Lubuntu is fully supported here too
[11:44] <Krissed> ah ok. I just finished redoing 11.10 to look like real gnome
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: only one of the 4 official releases use Unity
[11:44] <tiox> drive*
[11:44] <Krissed> ActionParsnip oh ok.
[11:45] <ikonia> tiox: you don't need to update grub manually
[11:45] <Rotham> (Ubuntu 11.10) hey... when I try 'apt-get install curl' im getting a message about curl not being available but its referred to by other programs, and that it has no install candidate .. how can I fix this?
[11:45] <wodim> Rotham das un asko atroz, eres amorfo y hueles mal, tirate por la ventana
[11:45] <ikonia> tiox: when you update the kernel it runs it for you
[11:45] <wodim> ikonia eres el mas apaleado de la tierra
[11:47] <xiewanchen> why can not restart my networking ?
[11:48] <xiewanchen> when I input this command "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:49] <tiox> ikonia: Well and fine, just sometimes I use drives with my USB drive and sometimes when I handle kernel stuff in there it for some odd reason resides in the primary grub.cfg.
[11:49] <tiox> Odd stuff, but it happens and having it run automatically would resolve this issue so I am not going "WTF? That drive isn't plugged in..." ever again.
[11:49] <ikonia> tiox: primary grub.cfg ? there is only 1
[11:49] <tiox> Oh...
[11:49] <tiox> Right!
[11:50] <tiox> Of course, but I sometimes run different systems on here to play around with.
[11:50] <Islam> what is the best software to use to install paltalk.exe on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[11:50] <ikonia> tiox: sorry, what you are saying makes no sense
[11:50] <tiox> They each have their own grub.cfg but somehow the one on hard disk gets affected when I say, upgrade a kernel on a system I am playing with. Don't know why.
[11:50] <DarkApex>  /quit
[11:50] <tiox> I came in here before asking about it until someone told me about using the grub update command to resolve this issue manually.
[11:51] <ikonia> tiox: becuse grub2 is not usable properly as a dual linux booter
[11:51] <tiox> Ahhh.
[11:51] <ikonia> tiox: the files it needs are on /etc on the localfile system, which makes it impossible for grub to manage multiple distros
[11:51] <Islam> what is the best software to use to install paltalk.exe on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[11:51] <ikonia> tiox: eg: if you have ubuntu installed and fedora, you update the fedora config, how can it update files on /etc/grub on the ubuntu partition, it can't
[11:51] <tiox> So... I see.
[11:52] <gry> 'grub2 is not usable properly as a dual linux booter' is there a good doc on that (apart from what I can find randomly myself)?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Islam: what does it do?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Islam: did you check the wine appdb?
[11:52] <tiox> It's pretty odd stuff; I limit myself to Ubuntu/Debian systems for that reason alone.
[11:52] <ikonia> tiox: the old grub1 setup if you used a shared /boot partition both distros could manpipulate menu.lst on the shared /boot, now because it's in /etc/ on the controlling distro, you can't
[11:52] <tiox> But even still oddities with Grub2 happens.
[11:53] <ikonia> gry: there is no doc, it's my personal opinion
[11:53] <gry> ok
[11:54] <ikonia> gry: but you can see the reasoning from my example
[11:54] <tiox> TTYLGTG
[11:54] <xiewanchen> who can help me ?
[11:54] <Islam> ActionParsnip : its a chat program like yahoo, and some friends uses it on wine, but wine isnt working with me
[11:54] <xiewanchen> who can help me ?
[11:55] <Islam> ActionParsnip : paltalk.exe is a chat program like yahoo, and some friends uses it on wine, but wine isnt working with me
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Islam: check the appdb dude
[11:56] <xiewanchen> When I enter the command "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:56] <xiewanchen> It failed to start
[11:56] <xiewanchen> why ?
[11:56] <Islam> ActionParsnip : where can I find it mate ?
[11:57] <Guest12041> xiewanchen : chek /etc/network/interfaces
[11:57] <LjL> Islam: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3824
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Islam: seek and ye shall find
[11:59] <xiewanchen> Guest12841:sorry, This command is not found
[11:59] <zykes-> anyone here wise on why http://pastebin.com/QZ8uYVxP is not working ?
[11:59] <Guest12041> xiewanchen :  gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:01] <mcb_1> xiewanchen: What guest12041 is saying is that you have a problem with your network interfaces. Check those configurations. Also, what is erro mesage that /etc/init.d/networking is giving you?
[12:01] <xiewanchen> Guest12841:   I uses this command "vi /etc/network/interfaces
[12:01] <MrKeuner> hello, why would sudo echo test > /var/websites/mywebsite/robots.txt return -bash: /var/websites/mywebsite/robots.txt: Permission denied?
[12:02] <llutz> MrKeuner: sudo ends after echo, use "echo test | sudo tee /var/websites/mywebsite/robots.txt"
[12:02] <xiewanchen> The prompt message is that ssh stop /waiting
[12:02] <Zx432> My server doesn't display picture. Monitor displays: Not optimum mode Recommended mode 1280x1024 60 hz
[12:02] <xiewanchen> ssh start /running ,process 2447
[12:03] <MrKeuner> llutz, is this a recent change?  Or with sudo? Looks like you dont.
[12:05] <MrKeuner> llutz, oh makes sense now, after ">" it is my user again
[12:05] <xiewanchen> mcb_1 yes ,I  use this command with sodu
[12:05] <llutz> MrKeuner: the "> foo" part is done as user before the "sudo command" part takes place
[12:06] <llutz> MrKeuner: another way is: sudo sh -c 'echo whatever > /foo'
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: echo "some text to add" | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[12:07] <mcb_1> xiewanchen: So you did $ sudo "/etc/init.d/networking restart"? And in your output the SSH service was restarted? This is odd for me.
[12:07] <Islam>   is there any other software than wine that runs the windows programs "exe" ?
[12:08] <aRaaa> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu?
[12:08] <ikonia> aRaaa: we can try if you ask a question
[12:08] <L3top> Islam: you could use virtual box and actually install windows...
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Islam: crossoveroffice and cedega, both are not free in any way
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: ask a question and see ;)
[12:08] <Zx432> Little help please?
[12:08] <Zx432> My server doesn't display picture. Monitor displays: Not optimum mode Recommended mode 1280x1024 60 hz
[12:08] <mcb_1> L3top, there is "dosbox" also. But it is most for very old stuff......
[12:08] <dr3mro> Islam, why you want to run exe on linux ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Zx432: what GPU do you use?
[12:09] <L3top> thanks mcb_1. Didn't know about that
[12:10] <MrKeuner> llutz, ActionParsnip thanks
[12:10] <aRaaa> Okay, well ill try keep it short. Im using aiMac. I played guilward via Cross over.. Worked perfectly until one day it randomly wouldnt load up. So i tried ubuntu off a CD, i then couldnt return to my OS, so i installed Ubuntu, which im now stuck with. Anyway besides the point. Iv tried over and over and over, to install it on ubuntu, iv tried so many different ways read and watched lots of tutorials. Now basically, it seems to always in
[12:10] <Islam> dr3mro : to run paltalk.exe >> its a chat program
[12:10] <mcb_1> L3top: i use it to play "Eye of the Beholder"......
[12:10] <aRaaa> Guild wars
[12:10] <ikonia> Islam: you have been given the link to the wine application compatability list
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: did you check the appdb
[12:11] <Islam> ikonia : thanx
[12:11] <aRaaa> Oh it cut me off
[12:11] <L3top> Islam: Paltalk has some issues in linux. You might get it going, depending on hardware, but you are better off using the web client
[12:11] <aRaaa> Basically i cnt Launch GuilWaRS... WHY?
[12:11] <aRaaa> Caps
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: did you check the appdb?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: have you asked in #winehq
[12:12] <aRaaa> It installs, it seems okay, but i just for the life of me cant get it to lauynch, it doesnt crash, it just doesnt happen
[12:12] <L3top> Islam: and wine is your best bet
[12:12] <Islam> L3top : I just need to get it to work then I would try solving the little programs
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: try launching it from terminal, the output may be useful
[12:13] <L3top> Islam: again, wine works to some degree, and virtualbox will work completely.
[12:13] <Islam> L3top : wine isnt working, after installing the paltalk it says there is a problem and it never opens, the same error happens with other software too
[12:13] <omegadark> anyone know a good web based frontend to subversion that will allow my users to create there own repos so I don't have to keep doing it?
[12:13] <aRaaa> Sorry its hard to kleep up with what your typing. Can we have a private chat? I dont know what Appdb is, and i tried launching from terminal, but it always says file cannot be found. But its installed.
[12:13] <aRaaa> I jus a moment ago installed it on playonlinux, still nothing
[12:13] <L3top> Islam: have you checked the executable bit?
[12:14] <Islam> L3top : no, I dont even know what it is
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: my text is quite minimal, and I am highlighting you
[12:14] <Zx432> need to check manually....
[12:14] <L3top> Islam: right click on the installer, go to permissions, and make sure the executable bit is set
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: i'd ask in #winehq
[12:14]  * L3top thinks it is permissions....
[12:14] <aRaaa> i see i see sorry, iv never used this. bit in ya face
[12:15] <Islam> L3top : I'm reinstalling wine again,, I'll make sure to try it .. thanx mate
[12:15] <L3top> yes Properties/Permissions
[12:15] <aRaaa> Ive been trying for weeks, Iv uninstalled, reinstalled, used wine, crossover, crossover tie, playonlinux... :
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: what OS versions did you try in winecfg?
[12:16] <aRaaa> Im really sorry. but whats do you mean?
[12:16] <aRaaa> Im really sorry, but what do you mean?
[12:16] <soreau> aRaaa: run 'winecfg'
[12:16] <aRaaa> In the terminal?
[12:17] <soreau> yes
[12:17] <maxpogorelov> join #python
[12:17] <maxpogorelov> sorry
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: in the winecfg app you can set the app to see the version of windows as Win2000, Win XP and so on. What have you tried?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: at least one of the guides MUST have mentioned it.....
[12:18] <dr3mro> Islam, لا يعمل علي واين .. و لا تحاول
[12:18] <aRaaa> I think it was
[12:18] <aRaaa> 2000
[12:18] <aRaaa> Win 2000
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: then try others]
[12:18] <aRaaa> Nope i jus ran Wincfg
[12:18] <Islam> L3top : تقصد البال توك لا يعمل على واين ؟
[12:18] <aRaaa> Its actually windows xp
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: try a few windows versions, see which makes it ok
[12:19] <aRaaa> Okay iv changed it, but now what,. jus repeat the install process?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: did you check the appdb or not?
[12:19] <aRaaa> No sorry
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !appdb
[12:19] <aRaaa> i checked the winecfg and changed it from xp to 2000
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: ok, now try the app. If its no good, try one of the other Windows versions
[12:20] <bc81> guys, i have a USB drive plugged in but can't copy files to it.  i formatted it as ext4 in gparted, so how can i "use" it now?
[12:20] <aRaaa> by app you mean GuildWars yes?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> bc81: chown the mount point to your user (and recursively)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: check the app can be made to run using the appdb, there will be a small guide too
[12:22] <aRaaa> Can i just mention. The game doesnt crash on launch or anything like that, no errors. It literally just does nothing when i try to launch it. But ill check Appdb out
[12:23] <TTilus> aptitude lists all packages twice
[12:23] <kevinyoung> hi all
[12:23] <TTilus> the first entry always has description and the other does not
[12:23] <TTilus> whats going on?
[12:24] <L3top> Islam: I mean certain functions are problematic in Wine. Esp video... often mic, you need to play with the hardware emulation settings a bit in wine settings
[12:24] <L3top> I also do not know Arabic.
[12:25]  * L3top is very fond of google translate
[12:25] <L3top> lol
[12:25] <blkdg> hello, to get my mouse to work i have to sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps each time i boot. how can i make this change permanent?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> aRaaa: thats fine, the appdb may help. Also try running the game from the terminal, it may help
[12:26] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[12:27] <haxxpop> hello anyone
[12:27] <Zx432> I finaly found it, had to take the server apart. I have a graphic card Gigabyte GV R925128T
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> blkdg: echo "options psmouse prot=imps" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[12:27] <KettleCooked> When I run apt-get update, I get a lot of 404 and misc errors. How can I start to clean this up? Output: http://pastebin.com/paqmB2Ld
[12:28] <L3top> blkdg: someone probably has a better answer, but I would look at some scripts in init.d, and create an appropriate header based on those and drop that in a script, then update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> L3top: I gave the fix, but they left...
[12:29] <L3top> I see that now... will remember
[12:31] <L3top> KettleCooked: try generating a new sources.list based on your needs here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[12:31] <Zx432> I have a graphic card Gigabyte GV R925128T all of a sudden I get Not optimum mode Recommended mode 1280x1024 60 hz on my monitor, I can still see boot sequence normally.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Zx432: what GPU do you have?
[12:33] <Zx432> Isn't the GPU the graphic card? So I have  graphic card Gigabyte GV R925128T all of a sudden I get Not optimum mode Recommended mode 1280x1024 60 hz on my monitor, I can still see boot sequence normally.
[12:33] <Zx432> Sorry
[12:33] <Zx432> My bad
[12:33] <L3top> he means what chipset
[12:33] <TTilus> ah, got it, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768
[12:33] <L3top> is it nvidia
[12:34] <L3top> is it ati
[12:34] <L3top> etc
[12:34] <Zx432> Should delete part of last msg..
[12:34]  * L3top assumes ActionParsnip is a he... no offense meant
[12:34] <Zx432> OK I get it it is ATI.
[12:35] <radu_> hi can anyone tell me what is /.rpmdb
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Zx432: ok its a radeon 9250, the brand is irrelevant
[12:35] <radu_> thanks
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> TTilus: precise support in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:35] <Zx432> Yes that is correct.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Zx432: try the boot option: nomodeset    may help
[12:36] <radu_> anyone knows?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> radu_: is it a folder or a file?
[12:36] <radu_> it is a folder
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> radu_: where is it located?
[12:36] <KettleCooked> If I have PHP 5.2.x, and I need PHP 5.3, under karmic - how do I upgrade it?
[12:37] <radu_> "/"
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> KettleCooked: karmic is no longer supported in any way
[12:37] <radu_> it is /.rpmdb
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> radu_  db is database, i guess rpm is the package manager of fedora
[12:37] <KettleCooked> ActionParsnip: ah ok
[12:37] <radu_> but i am not using rpm
[12:37] <radu_> just aptitude
[12:37] <L3top> radu I assume it is some sort of repository for rpms...
[12:37] <matanya> can someone please review :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matanya-laptop-oneiric-20120316-2.png
[12:37] <L3top> redhat etc
[12:37] <matanya> why is the boot time 53s ?
[12:37] <Pici> radu_: Did you happen to install something using alien?
[12:37] <matanya> what hangs?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> radu_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:38] <radu_> oneiric
[12:38] <radu_> nothing installed using alien
[12:39] <radu_> just aptitude
[12:39] <Pici> radu_: Well, whats inside the file? see: less /.rpmdb
[12:40] <L3top> it is a folder...
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> radu_: ever used yum?
[12:40] <L3top> I thought he said
[12:40] <Pici> L3top: oops
[12:40] <Foo863> Hello
[12:40] <radu_> never used yum
[12:40] <radu_> bever installed a rpm
[12:40] <radu_> never
[12:40] <L3top> same applies... ls the folder... anything in it?
[12:41] <haxxpop> anyone know how to make the irc room chat in empathy notified in my ubuntu desktop ?
[12:41] <radu_> some empty files
[12:41] <radu_> like packages
[12:41] <L3top> what files
[12:41] <radu_> groups
[12:41] <radu_> etc
[12:41] <Foo863> I've got a computer with 10.04 LTS installed, and a nvidia 530GT graphics card
[12:41] <L3top> for instance
[12:41] <L3top> anything you recognize?
[12:41] <radu_> name, group, packages etc
[12:41] <mguy> What file system type should /boot be?
[12:41] <radu_> no content
[12:41] <ikonia> mguy: any linux compatible file system
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Foo863: i suggest you grab Oneiric, it wil help with the new hardware.
[12:42] <radu_> some other generic names
[12:42] <Foo863> I need to install nvidias proprietary drivers, but the install says that I have to terminate x11 before continuing
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> haxxpop: is there an addon / plugin to talk to libnotify?
[12:42] <Foo863> ActionParsnip: sorry, I can't
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Foo863: why not
[12:42] <radu_> and also some files like __db.001
[12:42] <L3top> Foo863, there are a few ways to do that.
[12:42] <Foo863> I have to stay with the current installation, many reasons
[12:43] <radu_> reckon it's safe to delete?
[12:43] <mcb_1> radu: I also have this folder with the files you have.... But i have Alien installed.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Foo863: there is an xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh, more stable) which will give the 295 driver you will ore than likely need
[12:43] <oconnore> My keystrokes lag and sometimes are dropped entirely or (rarely) duplicated, is there anything I can do about this?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> oconnore: which release are you using?
[12:43] <L3top> Foo863: You could type init3 probably... and it may kill X.
[12:44] <radu_> mine is 4500 bytes in size
[12:44] <L3top> You could service gdm stop probably
[12:44] <oconnore> ActionParsnip: it happens in 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04
[12:44] <Zx432> #ActionParsnip great I can't see grub :)
[12:44] <L3top> pkill X...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> oconnore: are you using Unity?
[12:45] <oconnore> ActionParsnip: Yes
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> oconnore: tried unity2D?
[12:45] <L3top> Zx432: do you know which driver you are using?
[12:46] <L3top> fglrx or radeon?
[12:46] <bc81> is xfs a good filesystem to use for a backup drive?
[12:46] <Zx432> yes sort of, it must be the default one for Ubuntu server
[12:46] <L3top> bc81: xfs is very good for media
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Foo863: hold shift at boot and select recovery mode, then select root. There is now no X server running and you can use the file from nvidia. The ppa is much easier
[12:47] <mcb_1> radu: Looking in my instaled packeges, i saw that i have a rpm packege.... Dont know if it came at install.
[12:47] <radu_> how do u check for rpms?
[12:47] <L3top> Foo863: that is the best way to do it... ^^^
[12:47] <bc81> L3top: ok, thanks.  how can i format the drive to xfs?  in gparted, xfs is greyed out
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Zx432: you can drop to root recovery mode and set the res in /etc/default/grub     you will need to run:  sudo update-grub  afterwards
[12:48] <radu_> i would like to know which rpms are installed
[12:48] <mcb_1> radu: I did $dpkg -l | grep rpm And I found some RPM related packeges instaled. Should be one of then that created this .rpmdb folder.
[12:49] <bc81> in gparted, i can only format to ext*, fat*, linux-swap and ntfs!?  all the others are greyed out, what gives?
[12:49] <L3top> Not sure...
[12:49] <oconnore> ActionParsnip: it still happens in unity2d/kde, although unity is especially bad in 11.10
[12:49] <radu_> alright
[12:49] <radu_> thank you very much for your help
[12:49]  * L3top is terrible at giving gui support...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> oconnore: what GPU do you use?
[12:50] <Kartagis> how can I compare the md5 of the ubuntu iso to the one on the website?
[12:50] <oconnore> ActionParsnip: it's an AMD E-350 Fusion with the built in Radeon HD graphics card
[12:51] <locsmif> Kartagis: run md5sum on the iso
[12:51] <oconnore> open source driver
[12:51] <locsmif> Kartagis: or do md5sum -c <file> <filename.iso>
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> oconnore: have you tried the proprietary driver?
[12:51] <L3top> bc81: it is possible there is already a partition table there which needs to be deleted and recreated
[12:52] <Kartagis> locherm: I also want to verify
[12:52] <locsmif> Kartagis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[12:53] <L3top> bc81: try apt-get install xfsprogs
[12:53] <oconnore> ActionParsnip: the last time I tried there was no suspend/resume, but I guess it might be worthwhile to try again
[12:53] <L3top> !xfsprogs
[12:53]  * L3top sucks at !
[12:54] <bc81> L3top: ok, thanks for that
[12:55] <matanya> anyone?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> matanya: wassup?
[12:56] <locsmif> ActionParsnip: < matanya> can someone please review :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matanya-laptop-oneiric-20120316-2.png
[12:57] <auronandace> !brain | L3top
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: ty
[12:57] <joff> !list
[12:57] <L3top> ty auronandace
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> matanya: reboot, then run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; dmesg | pastebinit     what is output?
[12:58] <linuxius> hi! I bought an QNAP NAS and would like to setup. I should connect to it at <IP_ADDRESS>:8080. What do I have to set up in the network manager in order to connect to it via LAN-Cable?
[12:58] <joan_> ola
[12:58] <locsmif> matanya: hmmm
[12:58] <mickael_> hello
[12:58] <newcode> I am new to ubuntu and need to install acl, I did apt-get install acl, I know I have to edit /etc/fstab now, but not sure how
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: set the interface as DHCP and itwill get an IP off your router
[12:59] <locsmif> I can read charts like this in general (resemble Gantt charts), but I don't see the exact problem. Maybe ureadahead
[12:59] <usuario> oi
[12:59] <locsmif> Also, the chart says 30s, not 53s
[12:59] <joan_> ola  peñaaaa
[12:59] <usuario> algum brasileiro aki
[12:59] <joan_> noooooo
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> !br
[13:00] <linuxius> I don't have a router in between...
[13:00] <joan_> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:00] <linuxius> I says it has to be connected directly to the computer...
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: then you wil need to set the interface you connect with to fall into the same subnet as the device, you will also need a crossover cable as you are connecting peer to peer
[13:01] <locsmif> linuxius: 169.264 is an impossible subnet
[13:01] <xixooorum_jaja> OLE
[13:01] <geirha> unless your nic can do the crossover for you
[13:01] <xixooorum_jaja> VA XE KALLEU
[13:01] <locsmif> Deliberately designed to indicate error
[13:01] <xixooorum_jaja> jajaja
[13:01] <FloodBot1> xixooorum_jaja: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: a NAS can be on a router, as long as there is a logical link it will work
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: its not, its the subnet used for systems failing dhcp
[13:02] <locsmif> ActionParsnip: which is what I was saying, although less precise.
[13:02] <vjg_> olaa
[13:02] <locsmif> Wtf
[13:02] <locsmif> Is this sync trolling Brasil?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: set the interface to be a static IP and set it to fall in to the netmask used by the device.
[13:06] <linuxius> what is the netmask of <IP_ADDRESS>? what is the gateway?
[13:06] <matanya> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/886277/
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: its a p2p lan, there is no gateway
[13:07] <linuxius> ActionParsnip:  how can I tell the network manager?
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> newcode, Try gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: you set the interface to Manual, then specify the details
[13:09] <linuxius> ActionParsnip: I got so far... Then it asks for Adress, Subnet and Gateway...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> matanya: look around line 764
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: yes, set it to similar to the device, but change the last octet of the address, the subnet will be the same
[13:10] <linuxius> so an adress like: <IP_ADDRESS>? and no subnet or gateway?
[13:11] <parapan> hello > I captured some flv clips with youtube-dl script and I cannot play them in Media pLayer or VLC > what can I do ??
[13:12] <L3top> !info gnash
[13:12] <parapan> !info flv
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: what is the address of the device?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> parapan: there are lots of downloaders as addons and extensions for browsers
[13:14] <L3top> I have very good luck with gnash parapan... not perfect by any means, but anything to avoid adobe's player
[13:14] <parapan> ActionParsnip: well I use youtube-dl script ...but I cannot play the resulted .flv file
[13:15] <L3top> yes parapan, that is because you need a player...
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> parapan: try one of the many downloaders for the browser, if you just want the audio you can use this: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
[13:15] <linuxius> ActionParsnip: in the manual it says "open a web browser and enter the IP address of the NAS: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/ (make sure the IP address of your PC is configured to the same subnet, e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>. I cannot klick apply in the network settings with IP <IP_ADDRESS> and subnet <IP_ADDRESS>... that should be correct though, right?
 vlc plays all my flv files, unless it's encrypted
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> L3top: lightspark isn't bad either
[13:16] <parapan> L3top: I have VLC and default Movie Player ...none of them work
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxius: then <IP_ADDRESS>    subnet <IP_ADDRESS>   will be fine
[13:16] <L3top> parapan: you need a flash player.
[13:17] <parapan> L3top: I installed gnash
[13:18] <cordoval> i am trying to upgrade git on my ubuntu but not sure because i don't want to remove some customizations I have done in some of the files for setup
[13:18] <cordoval> how to proceed I am running the latest ubuntu
[13:19] <parapan> L3top: looks like gnash cannot play .flv files
[13:19] <_Marcus> cordoval: Is it a package from the main repos?
[13:19] <_Marcus> cordoval: As in something you can get with apt?
[13:19] <matanya> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/886294/
[13:20] <haz3lnut> parapan: is  it just one file you can;t play or many? vlc should work.
[13:20] <jardineworks> #liferay
[13:21] <cordoval> _Marcus how to find out?
[13:21] <cordoval> I think it is but how to make sure?
[13:21] <_Marcus> cordoval: How did you download it the first time?
[13:21] <cordoval> I can't remember
[13:21] <L3top> parapan: Gnash supports playback of FLV videos and allows playing some FLV files from YouTube, MySpace, ShowMeDo and other similar websites (older files with sound – newer files without playing sound). FLV support requires FFmpeg or GStreamer to be installed on the system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
[13:21] <_Marcus> cordoval: Try "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[13:22] <locsmif> parapan: you can play flv with VLC
[13:22] <locsmif> If you can't something's wrong with your setup
[13:22] <locsmif> parapan: try mplayer
[13:22] <_Marcus> cordoval: That will update all your programs, including Git, if it's from the repos
[13:22] <locsmif> !mplayer
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> matanya: yes, i saw that the first time you pasted the link....
[13:22] <locsmif> !info mplayer
[13:23] <parapan> locsmif: already tried ....cannot play the output of youtube-dl .....
[13:23] <locsmif> parapan: then the movie is broken
[13:23] <locsmif> Not mplayer or VLC
[13:23] <locsmif> parapan: what's the link?
[13:23] <locsmif> I'll download and play it
[13:23] <L3top> as ActionParsnip suggested, you can try lightspark... or get the terribly glitchy resource hungry closed source adobe flashplugin-installer...
[13:23] <parapan> locsmif: could not determine type of stream ...
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> parapan: try one of the addons / extensions for your browser..
[13:23] <cordoval> _Marcus: doing that but not sure if it will take me to a later version on git than <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:23] <cordoval> i need the latest
[13:23] <L3top> not that I am biased ;)
[13:24] <locsmif> parapan: what's the link? We'll know what the problem is in short order. If you want to keep it off the record, pm me
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> parapan: also try kiiss youtube :)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> parapan: cu
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> parapan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547848
[13:24] <kaizhan> Hi All
[13:24] <playman> what is the best/easyest way to connect from ubuntu server to ubuntu live cd terminal?
[13:25] <kaizhan> quit
[13:25] <|Long|> good mornig iam adding new user from ssh, what is th cmd to add him as root level?
[13:25] <cordoval> what is precise?
[13:25] <tingloveme> hi there
[13:25] <itmannen> cordoval:  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:25] <locsmif> parapan: ?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> playman: i'd say SSH
[13:26] <parapan> k thank you all ...I think one of the solution you offered will do the trick ....
[13:26] <cordoval> how to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: add the user to the admn group
[13:26] <_Marcus> cordoval: You don't want to do that
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> cordoval: ask in #ubuntu+1 for advise there
[13:26] <playman> allright thank you for that ActionParsnip
[13:27] <_Marcus> cordoval: It's unstable, not good for everyday use
[13:27] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, thanks what is the cmd line do you know?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: sudo adduser -a -G admin username
[13:27] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, thanks alot
[13:27] <L3top> Should he then add to sudoers?
[13:28] <locsmif> _Marcus: well, I had to compile a new kernel to avoid the constant external hdd disconnects (I boot from it, so as soon as that happens, it's hard reset), so in some ways oneiric isn't great as well
[13:28] <L3top> or is that inherited?
[13:28] <locsmif> And it still happens, though less frequent
[13:28] <_Marcus> locsmif: I would take that over all the bugs 12.04 still has
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> L3top: the admin group is what gives access to gk/sudo
[13:28] <L3top> yes of course...
[13:29] <L3top> I never add root users...
[13:29] <locsmif> _Marcus: hmm, suit yourself ;) A system which.. whoops.. loses access to its own root fs at random is pretty unstable if you ask me.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> L3top: there can only be one root user, which is 'root'
[13:30] <_Marcus> locsmif: True
[13:30] <garmet> Hello fellow ubuntuers!
[13:30] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, that cmd didnt work
[13:30] <locsmif> garmet: hi
[13:30] <|Long|> -G didnt work
[13:30] <garmet> I have a slight issue with dual screens. I am using a KVM switch and been meddling around with that monitor sleeps when changing back to windoze. no probs in mint here. I fixed that issue and moved on to configuring linux screen orientations. It ended up with me editing my xorg.conf and set everything exactly as it should be, I rebooted and everything looked great. The resolutions where correct and looked really sharp and nice. The deskto
[13:30] <garmet> ps where aligned correctly with separate x windows using Xinerama. The problem though: The screen itself complains that the correct resolution is 1680x1050 @ 60Hz, which is exactly what it uses. After complaining awhile the screen sleeps because it thinks it has wrong resolution. Any thoughts?
[13:30] <L3top> ... well... yes I guess I meant with root access.
[13:31] <L3top> but I always appreciate correction
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: i believe useradd can do it too
[13:31] <locsmif> garmet: resolution or refresh rate?
[13:32] <garmet> locsmif: doesnt say, the OSD is just saying that its not the recommended setting
[13:33] <garmet> locsmif: I'll check my xorg.conf to confirm
[13:33] <locsmif> garmet: if it's sharp, I think the resolution is correct
[13:33] <locsmif> non-native LCD resolutions tend to be fuzzy, or otherwise do not fill the screen
[13:33] <|Long|> how can i tell if the user has the root access from ssh screen?
[13:34] <locsmif> garmet: LCD or CRT?
[13:34] <_Marcus> Is it better to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" or sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[13:34] <locsmif> _Marcus: the former.
[13:34] <garmet> locsmif: LCD, so vertRefresh is the Hz right?
[13:34] <_Marcus> locsmif: Thank you
[13:34] <locsmif> garmet: yes
[13:35] <mcb_> |Long|: you can $su new_user you will have a session as the new_user. There you test it.
[13:35] <locsmif> _Marcus: np
[13:35] <|Long|> mcb_, thanks
[13:35] <garmet> locsmif: let me correct and reboot :)
[13:35] <spacebug-> _Marcus: the former will only do the second command if the first one succeeds
[13:35] <garmet> locsmif: thx
[13:35] <_Marcus> spacebug-: Ah
[13:35] <locsmif> garmet: np
[13:35] <spacebug-> _Marcus: which is what one wants
[13:36] <Lurkin_Lobster> hi everyone
[13:36] <locsmif> Lurkin_Lobster: hi
[13:36] <Lurkin_Lobster> can someone point me at a good tutorial for irssi setup?
[13:36] <_Marcus> Hi, Lurkin_Lobster
[13:36] <locsmif> Lurkin_Lobster: start irssi
[13:36] <Lurkin_Lobster> im using it now
[13:36] <_Marcus> !irssi | Lurkin_Lobster
[13:37] <Lurkin_Lobster> thanks
[13:37] <craigbass1976> /var/www probably ought to be owned by www-data, but I want to be able to write to everything.  Is there any way, other than giving www-data a password, to read and write to /var/www while logged in as me but keeping file ownership as www-data:www-data ?
[13:37] <Lurkin_Lobster> this thing is serious business, lol i feel like i could blow up earth or something with it haha
[13:37] <locsmif> Lurkin_Lobster: /set nick Lurkin_Lobster  /set real_name none  /set user_name none   /connect irc.freenode.net  /join #ubuntu   *done*
[13:37] <locsmif> Oh, and /save to save config
[13:38] <L3top> Lurkin_Lobster: I would think you could symlink... but I am just talking out loud
[13:38] <|Long|> ActionPark, that cmd doesn't added new user to root access
[13:39] <haz3lnut> Anyone know of a tool will tell me my physical ram spec and type without me having to reboot to memtest?
[13:39] <L3top> |Long|: I think you need to use visudo and add them to the sudoers
[13:39] <_Marcus> haz3lnut: I believe no operating system can see the full memory in a system.
[13:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[13:39] <_Marcus> haz3lnut: So you would have to restart.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/8555-ubuntu-linux-add-user-group.html
[13:40] <_Marcus> Hi Emmanuel_Chanel
[13:40] <enesfaruk> selam
[13:40] <|Long|> ActioParsnip, thanks
[13:40] <enesfaruk> ubuntu kuramıyorum türk var mı
[13:40] <L3top> |Long|: always listen to ActionParsnip over me. I am just trying to help while I learn
[13:40] <dani_> SALVE ITALIANI??
[13:40] <rileyp> haz top
[13:40] <garmet> locsmif: Everything works fine now :)
[13:41] <_Marcus> enesfaruk: Bu İngilizce kanalıdır. Ben Türk kanalı bulamadı, ama oraya gitmek için yardımcı olacaktır.
[13:41] <_Marcus> Where is the Turkish channel?
[13:42] <enesfaruk> thank you marcus
[13:42] <rileyp> In Turnkey
[13:42] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Are many people accustomed to "dash"?
[13:42] <haz3lnut> Thanks _Marcus, anyone else second _Marcus' statement?
[13:42] <rileyp> yep it like bash
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Emmanuel_Chanel: works ok here
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> rileyp: bash != dash
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !turkish
[13:43] <rileyp> but with a d lol
[13:43] <_Marcus> 1tr | enesfaruk
[13:43] <leftist> how do i disable the iphone app that initiates when you plug it into a usb port? it utilizes 100% cpu on the laptops. they only use for charging their phones.
[13:43] <_Marcus> !tr | enesfaruk
[13:43] <_Marcus> Oh
[13:43] <_Marcus> Derp
[13:43] <FloodBot1> _Marcus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <enesfaruk> thank you very much marcus :) good by friend
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: funny how it doesn't say 'see above' in turkish when you use !tr | nick :)
[13:44] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: :P
[13:45] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use bash more than dash or its bsh mode.
[13:45] <mneptok> Emmanuel_Chanel: dash is not meant for use as a daily interactive shell, any more than sh was.
[13:46] <rileyp> i use bash
[13:46] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[13:46] <rileyp> to keep the kids in line
[13:46] <Zx432> I can't get my ethernet to connect to internet. I have no idea what is wrong. I am using text interface.
[13:47] <rileyp> Zx432 ifconfig -a
[13:47] <leftist> how do i disable the iphone app that initiates when you plug it into a usb port? it utilizes 100% cpu on the laptops. they only use for charging their phones.
[13:48] <_Marcus> leftist: This is Ubuntu support. That seems like something with your iOS device.
[13:48] <leftist> no it has to do with ubuntu
[13:48] <_Marcus> leftist: How so?
[13:49] <leftist> if i can just be pointed to startup script location i can figure it out myself.
[13:49] <ikonia> leftist: it's nothing to with ubuntu, contact apple support
[13:49] <leftist> no this is a linux app
[13:49] <leftist> contact apple support laugh
[13:49] <jpds> leftist: "iphone app"
[13:49] <jpds> leftist: No.
[13:49] <rileyp> because the pc has ubuntu on it or he has a ubuntu sticker on the backof his iphone
[13:49] <ikonia> leftist: no, it's not it's an app on your ios device
[13:49] <leftist> your sure?
[13:49] <ikonia> leftist: yes
[13:49] <leftist> hold on
[13:49] <_Marcus> leftist: I can't ask "I burnt my hand on the stove, what do I do?" and then say "I am running Ubuntu so it's Ubuntu-related"
[13:49] <ikonia> rileyp: not helpful, please don't be silly
[13:50] <leftist> wait a minute
[13:50] <unop> leftist, it's probably an app triggered by udev .. I'd look in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[13:50] <ikonia> unop: how is udev launching an app on his phone ?
[13:50] <daveo> i'm doing a fresh install of 11.10, its downloading many language packs. why? i'm only english literate, can i remove them later?
[13:51] <leftist> if i plug in an iphone into a linux based system, it isnt recognized usually. however if there is a driver developed it is then recognized. apple isnt providing any drivers for ubuntu or centos or puppy etc..
[13:51] <unop> ikonia, I'm inferring the app is launched on his machine when his phone is plugged in
[13:51] <ikonia> unop: ah, so something local to his laptop
[13:51] <unop> right
[13:51] <Zx432> Ok it lists two things eth0 and lo
[13:51] <leftist> Seveas are you around?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> daveo: install localepurge  and it will strip them out
[13:51] <ikonia> leftist: what are you talking about "if there is a deiver developed"
[13:51] <daveo> ActionParsnip: thank you will do
[13:52] <leftist> ok
[13:52] <unop> leftist, what app is this that is launched?
[13:52] <mneptok> Zx432: how is the interface confogured? static IP or DHCP?
[13:52] <leftist> i have to restart i killed it as i usually do but i should know it's path etc.. let me find out exactly what it is and search on google.
[13:52] <leftist> bbiab
[13:52] <_Marcus> leftist: So on your system without drivers to launch this app, it is launching an app?
[13:52] <leftist> but i know i am right
[13:53] <ikonia> leftist: try to explain again, as you are not making much sense
[13:53] <leftist> what i am saying marcus is that apple isnt an option for support because they dont support ubuntu period
[13:53] <leftist> bbiab
[13:53] <leftist> let me examine this better ikonia
[13:53] <leftist> i kinda shot from the hip
[13:53] <ikonia> leftist: is the application causing the problem on ubuntu, or on your iphone ?
[13:54] <mneptok> leftist: Apple is also the only company that knows how the iPhone internals work.
[13:54] <_Marcus> leftist: Have you tried Apple support yet?
[13:54] <leftist> no on ubuntu it causes the app that is provided via ubuntu os to push the cpu to 100%
[13:54] <Zx432> Currently it says loopback. I didn't manually configure it. I don't know how in text interface.
[13:55] <leftist> hell no marcus and i dont intend on that's not even practical. it has nothing to do with apple period.
[13:55] <mneptok> leftist: you bought an iPhone. the system requirements for it say clearly Windows or OSX. Apple is not going to write a driver. no one else is quite sure how.
[13:55] <ikonia> leftist: so the application is on ubuntu
[13:55] <rileyp> Zx432 do you know the ip settings you wish to use?
[13:55] <leftist> let me figure it out
[13:55] <leftist> bbl
[13:55] <lesjaw> somebody, please do "dig atr-corp.biz mx" tell me what is mail.atr-corp.biz ip please
[13:55] <leftist> has nothing to do with apple though
[13:55] <_Marcus> leftist: Then it sounds like the application that is used to connect your iPhone to your Ubuntu OS is causing the CPU usage to rise to 100%, am I correct?
[13:55] <ro_70s> how can I set a key to output a whole phrase?
[13:55] <leftist> corrrect
[13:56] <Zx432> Yes it is on router for now so i can make it up.
[13:56] <leftist> i just need to know which program is running so i can disable it and/or remove it
[13:56] <_Marcus> leftist: Is this a 3rd Party application, or one supported by Ubuntu?
[13:56] <ro_70s> I tried setting a shortcut, but it just tries to execute the phrase, instead of pasting it
[13:56] <leftist> i need to research bbiab
[13:56] <leftist> thanks
[13:56] <mneptok> Zx432: try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[13:56] <otake_wb> hi 2 all
[13:56] <_Marcus> Hello otake_wb
[13:56] <ikonia> leftist: hang on
[13:56] <ikonia> !iphone | leftist
[13:56] <otake_wb> est kto iz russia&
[13:56] <ikonia> leftist: check that link out, it shows you how to connect to your iphone in ubuntu, see if that is the application you are looking at
[13:56] <_Marcus> ikonia: You type fast
[13:57] <leftist> ok
[13:57] <ro_70s> how can I set a key to output a whole phrase? I tried setting a shortcut, but it just tries to execute the phrase, instead of pasting it
[13:57] <_Marcus> !ru | otake_wb
[13:57] <otake_wb> EST KTO IZ ROSSII?
[13:57] <rileyp> Zx432: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces to add your settings
[13:57] <ro_70s> No one know? how can I set a key to output a whole phrase? I tried setting a shortcut, but it just tries to execute the phrase, instead of pasting it
[13:57] <bmoez> what is the minimum memory of video  cart for running kubuntu well in my pc with 512Mo of Ram and 1024x1280 for screen?
[13:58] <_Marcus> ro_70s: Dude, about 30 seconds passed before you assumed nobody knew.
[13:58] <leftist> it works just fine but it hogs 100% cpu just like the index procedure hogs 100% cpu, that was disabled i just cant determine where to disable this iphone app. i'll investigate.
[13:58] <_Marcus> ro_70s: Be patient.
[13:58] <ro_70s> marcus actually I've been asking for 5 minutes
[13:59] <_Marcus> ro_70s: Oh.
[13:59] <rileyp> Zx432: eg mine looks like this  http://pastebin.com/zM3UAnbF