[08:07] <aossi> i was hoping for terminal to install it....
[08:07] <aossi> this is my only system
[08:07] <aossi> man i wish i didnt upgrade to 12.10
[08:08] <diminoten> :( parted magic is trying to charge me money
[08:09] <varunendra> aossi, the ubuntu desktop installer needs ubiquity, and I don't think it'll work from CLI. But I think you can boot the ISO directly from Grub (I'm not yet sure how, but I know it is possible and not difficult). Then you'll have a GUI to work from.
[08:10] <Beldar> varunendra, exactly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot if you could get a cli
[08:10] <aossi> k im trying nomodeset one more time
[08:10] <Beldar> err they
[08:10] <varunendra> aossi, or you can also burn a DVD using commands.
[08:11] <varunendra> Beldar, thanks, Time to bookmark that :D
[08:11] <aossi> i am at a command prompt after using nomodeset
[08:11] <aossi> hold on
[08:11] <varunendra> startx? aossi
[08:13] <aossi> whats startx??? imma try and terminal command wifi and my nvidia drivers. i got to log in using terminal command so im happy
[08:13] <memoweb> I need some help with virtual box?
[08:15] <hateball> !someone | memoweb
[08:15] <varunendra> aossi, startx is the command to start Xserver if it initially failed to start for some reason (but is usable). Sometimes works if you get a command line during normal booting.
[08:15] <unstable> Do switchable graphics work well on linux?
[08:15] <memoweb> Does anyone recomend a good virtual machine to use?
[08:16] <unstable> or is it hacky?
[08:16] <Beldar> unstable, depends or your definition of hacky, there is bumblebee
[08:16] <unstable> Beldar: yea, I think bumblebee has a lot of problem still
[08:17] <Beldar> unstable, I know it's used never had the pleasure.
[08:17] <varunendra> memoweb, VMware and VirtualBox are obvious recommendations. Do you need help with any of these or just recommendations (for which, this is not the correct place)
[08:18] <pi_____> helou
[08:18] <Akayllin> Hi
[08:18] <ShiftMaster> hi there, here is support?
[08:18] <pi_____> i have problem, but its about windows, error with instalation 0x6976ea96
[08:19] <Akayllin> It says support in the titlebar. I thought this was general ubuntu chat though lol
[08:19] <memoweb> yes I set out to set up virtual box and had some issue ill log in for spacifics thanks Varunendra!
[08:19] <llutz> pi_____: /join ##windows
[08:19] <pi_____> ok
[08:19] <varunendra> memoweb, np :)
[08:19] <ShiftMaster> i would like to ask how i update my ubunutu 13.04 to 13.10 without loosing data.
[08:20] <varunendra> ShiftMaster, backup-backup and backup. No alternates to that if you want real security of your data.
[08:20] <varunendra> alternatives*
[08:21] <Akayllin> does any know of any good python chat rooms for beginners?
[08:21] <memoweb> I have ubuntu I want to install it on a virtual box/
[08:21] <ShiftMaster> second question is... ubuntu one is taking memory from my computer and i remove it alredy but evertime i start he runs alone, i saw the past where it is but i can delete the startubunut one... how to proceed?
[08:21] <memoweb> my steps want me to use the terminal I do not have yet
[08:21] <bentz> os
[08:21] <ShiftMaster> Thanks Varuendra
[08:23] <ShiftMaster> second question is... ubuntu one is taking memory from my computer and i remove it alredy but evertime i start he runs alone, i saw the past where it is but i can delete the startubunut one... how to proceed?
[08:25] <varunendra> memoweb, please clarify - do you already have Ubuntu running and now you want to install it in VirtualBox also? Or is it VirtualBox itself that you want to install on Ubuntu? I think neither of these relies on commands.
[08:28] <neetz> hello ,  I have the same problem as http://askubuntu.com/questions/23353/ubuntu-boots-into-terminal , but i need some clearifications on the answer
[08:28] <neetz> anyone there ?
[08:28] <Seveas> neetz: no, we're all on holiday :-)
[08:28] <varunendra> ShiftMaster, http://askubuntu.com/questions/160574/stop-ubuntuone-from-autostart
[08:29] <neetz> Seveas:  lol :P , did you see the link ?
[08:29] <neetz> what do i do after entering System > Administration > Disk Utility ?
[08:31] <neetz> anyone there ?
[08:31] <Seveas> neetz: is the disk full?
[08:31] <Seveas> or is it having errors?
[08:32] <neetz> Seveas:  I dont know , i have to check that .. But what do i do if it has errors ?
[08:32] <Seveas> neetz: you click the 'Check Filesystem' button
[08:33] <neetz> Seveas:  after that , does it resolve it automatically ? or do i have to type any command , just askin all procedure before i boot into ubuntu ..
[08:34] <Seveas> neetz: it will prompt you if it finds errors. Some it can resolve automatically, some it will need guidance on.
[08:34] <neetz> Seveas:  But why did it happen at the first place , it was all fine
[08:35] <Seveas> could be unexpected power loss, or a hard drive that's simply dying (harddrives are unreliable)
[08:37] <neetz> Seveas:  okay  I am able to boot into root shell  is there a command to check for errors directly or do i need to boot into a GUI through Live CD
[08:37] <Guest65529> hello
[08:37] <Seveas> neetz: I'd suggest a live cd as it's the root volume with problems. Some of the fixes cannot be done if a volume is mounted
[08:38] <trivvit> quick question, if anyone wants to help me ou
[08:38] <trivvit> I lost oem windows 8 install
[08:38] <neetz> Seveas:  ok thanks
[08:38] <trivvit> and so i need ubuntu
[08:40] <aossi> hey ver
[08:40] <aossi> sooo im in startx i cant connect to my wifi i tried ifconfig wlan0
[08:42] <aossi> varunendra how good with startx are you
[08:43] <aossi> can anyone help me?
[08:44] <sorinello> Hello. Are there any known issues with split VPN on Ubuntu 13.10 ? I saw tutorials on how to do this in older version, but doesn't work on my 13.10 version. My problems is that All traffic is routerd through VPN
[08:45] <diminoten> hm okay so I just get kicked into some kind of BusyBox command line
[08:45] <varunendra> aossi, "im in startx..." do you mean you are in the GUI?
[08:45] <diminoten> keeps saying "no init found"
[08:50] <lng> Hi! Where can I find Add/Remove? "Install Network Manager Applet through the Add/Remove in the Ubuntu menu."
[08:54] <varunendra> lng, where did you get that suggestion? And why do you need it in the first place? NetworkManager applet is installed by default
[08:54] <Seveas> lng: don't know where you found that, but the netwrk manager applet is installed by default in Ubuntu. If it somehow disappeared, you can use the software center or apt-get to get it back.
[08:54] <aossi> no vera its all command promt i have no desktop its like a fullscreen terminal
[08:54] <varunendra> :)
[08:55] <aossi> verunendra no i have nothing but terminal. i thought it might be startx lol never used startx
[08:56] <varunendra> aossi, startx just attempts to start the GUI, but the Xserver must be running in the background and the graphics driver (even if it is the basic one) must support the display. So if it failed, there is not much we can do about it.
[08:57] <aossi> if i can get wifi with this terminal crap then i can get my drivers and have graphics
[08:57] <aossi> or at least update and go from there maybe
[08:58] <Seveas> varunendra: startx actually starts the X server
[08:59] <aossi> x.x
[09:00] <Seveas> aossi: so, I missed the start of your discussion. Why are you not using the gui?
[09:01] <aossi> cant i tried upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 and got that black screen crap and then tried nomodeset and now im at a full terminal style screen
[09:01] <varunendra> sorry I got disconnected. Did I miss anything?
 verunendra no i have nothing but terminal.
[09:02] <Seveas> aossi: ooh, so your upgrade is really fscked eh
[09:02] <aossi> yea Nd i cant get wifi
[09:02] <Seveas> aossi: plug in a wire for now. Wireless in the terminal is a pain
[09:02] <jgcampbell300> I am trying to upgrade my bios on a Dell Precision T7400 work station ... i have found the bin file to use "T7400A11.bin" but when i try to ./T7400A11.bin it says ./flash: not found ... i am at a loss ... could i get a bit of assistance please ?
[09:02] <Seveas> wire we can get working with a few commands, then we can work on fixing the system
[09:03] <aossi> x.x i cant.....dont have access to this rooms router. i have no choice but to wifi.
[09:03] <aossi> im at grub.. had to restart comp
[09:04] <Seveas> aossi: well, then you're out of luck until you can plug in a wire
[09:04] <varunendra> Seveas, not necessarily if nmcli works :)
[09:05] <Seveas> aossi: you can try running a few commands to kick the install further if it's borked in the right place. Try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:05] <aossi> x.x c'mon please....idk when i will get wired in. i just did nomodeset.
[09:05] <aossi> k
[09:05] <varunendra> aossi, are you sure it is a graphics driver issue? If not, have you tried any other boot options?
[09:06] <Seveas> varunendra: I'm guessing a package failed to configure, causing many packages to be left in a crap state, probably including the initramfs. Seen it before.
[09:06] <aossi> every boot option except nomodeset has failed
[09:06] <Seveas> so let's try apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a until they no longer give any output
[09:06] <Seveas> and if we find the failing package, we can fix it
[09:07] <diminoten> well this is depressing
[09:07] <aossi> that -f install didnt work either
[09:07] <Seveas> aossi: did it give any output?
[09:07] <aossi> lemme get a pic for you
[09:10] <jgcampbell300> I am trying to upgrade my bios on a Dell Precision T7400 work station ... i have found the bin file to use "T7400A11.bin" but when i try to ./T7400A11.bin it says ./flash: not found ... i am at a loss ... could i get a bit of assistance please ?
[09:11] <Sagar69> Can someone explain me what does tty and pts means?
[09:11] <aossi> omg.
[09:12] <aossi> you still there dude i have a pic of my screen right now
[09:12] <guoxd> hi
[09:12] <aossi> http://imgur.com/VldrY6m
[09:13] <aossi> thats me doing sudo apt-get -f install
[09:13] <Seveas> aossi: hmm, that looks normal. How about dpkg --configure -a
[09:13] <Seveas> with sudo of course :)
[09:14] <aossi> nothing happened
[09:14] <neetz> Seveas:  it doesnt boot through live cd
[09:14] <Seveas> aossi: rats, so there went my first guess :(
[09:16] <varunendra> aossi, how far does your system let you go, in root prompt or with nomodeset? Can you still scan your wireless networks in any of those modes? (sudo iwlist scan)
[09:17] <neetz> can anyone tell me where's the right place to ask about the Xorg issue ?
[09:17] <aossi> scanned i see the diff networks
[09:17] <Z0rky> Im having trouble using qemu-kvm, when creating a virtual machine from the terminal. i get it created and booted. but i cannot connect to it via vnc connection. can anyone tell me what i need to write, in order to set a port and make it listen on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:18] <Seveas> aossi: do this: nmcli con list
[09:18] <varunendra> aossi, do you have your wifi connection profile saved with security key etc.?
[09:18] <neetz> Seveas:  ?
[09:18] <Seveas> if your network shows up, you can try: nmcli con up id here_the_name_as_specified_by_nmcli_list
[09:19] <aossi> k hold on
[09:19] <Seveas> neetz: if your computer doesn't boot the live cd, either you have a broken live cd (did you check it?) or a really broken computer (broken memory perhaps, try the memtest boot option)
[09:19] <neetz> Seveas:  or probably a graphic problem
[09:20] <Z0rky> !g kvm
[09:20] <Z0rky> !kvm
[09:20] <aossi> i did the command with the name and nothing
[09:20] <Z0rky> !virt-install
[09:20] <Z0rky> !virt-manager
[09:20] <Seveas> aossi: sisn't wifi come up? check with ifconfig -a
[09:21] <aossi> error unknown connection
[09:21] <Z0rky> common ubottu
[09:21] <Z0rky> !qemu-kvm
[09:21] <Seveas> Z0rky: don't play with the bot.
[09:21] <Z0rky> im asking for help
[09:21] <Z0rky> since it might point me in the right direction
[09:21] <Seveas> no you're not. You're mucking about with the bot.
[09:21] <Seveas> asking for help goes like "Hi guys, I'm trying to do XXX but get stuck on YYY, can anyone help?
[09:22] <Z0rky> Seveas:  i did earlier.
[09:22] <Z0rky> if you scroll up you can se me question
[09:22] <Seveas> aossi: can you give me a picture of the output of both nmcli commands?
[09:22] <aossi> seveas i did the ifconfig -a and i got a list of my eth0 my lo and my wlan0
[09:23] <Seveas> Z0rky: I saw it but don't have an answer
[09:23] <aossi> no :( scroll went away
[09:23] <node549> its just sometimes no one has the answer ..patience..
[09:23] <Seveas> aossi: well, try them again :)
[09:23] <aossi> pm them to me so i dont lose them in chat scroll im chatting on my phone
[09:24] <Ben64> aossi: oh you came back. don't use startx
[09:26] <varunendra> Ben64, they already did, and it failed too.
[09:26] <Zorky> .
[09:26] <Ben64> varunendra: yeah i know they used startx. its never a good idea to do that
[09:27] <varunendra> Ben64, why so?
[09:27] <aossi> yea im using nomodeset....it sucks but owell gotta fix this pc
[09:27] <Ben64> because its not the correct way to get into a graphical environment
[09:27] <Ben64> nomodeset is completely different from startx
[09:27] <neetz> Ben64:  Are you talking about Xorg ?
[09:27] <aossi> im in nomodeset....
[09:28] <memoweb> varunendra I am running on windows 8 I downloaded ubuntu I would like to first use it on a virtual box
[09:28] <Ben64> you're not "in" nomodeset, thats a boot parameter
[09:28] <varunendra> Ben64, does it tend to break anything? The startx
[09:28] <aossi> you know what i mean...
[09:28] <Ben64> varunendra: it can
[09:28] <neetz> varunendra:  can anyone help me ? I am facing a Xorg issue
[09:29] <Ben64> aossi: explain your issue here
[09:29] <Zorky> can anyone help me, im having trouble when creating a VM using virsh, i can't configure it with the right vnc options from the start, so i can't get a console
[09:29] <aossi> hold on... lemme get you imgur link...
[09:30] <varunendra> Ben64, any reference links etc.?
[09:30] <neetz> anyone who can help me with Xorg issue ?
[09:30] <Ben64> neetz: not if you never explain the issue
[09:30] <node549> :D
[09:30] <Seveas> Ben64: he explained it earlier
[09:31] <Ben64> so? repeating "i have problems" doesn't help anything
[09:32] <neetz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23353/ubuntu-boots-into-terminal this is the problem , I had this problem before when my livecd was not booting , I dont know All of a sudden it booted , and i installed it again  .. anyways it not about livecd ,, can i solve this Xorg issue , its given in the link
[09:32] <varunendra> memoweb, installing VirtualBox on win8 should be easy. Is it the Ubuntu installation part that you need help with?
[09:33] <neetz> Ben64:
[09:33] <theadmin> Hello everyone. I have a problem with an Optimus card here. I am using 12.04 with nvidia-prime. Everything works perfectly, but running fullscreen apps in wine crashes Xorg. Switching to the Intel card makes that work, but obviously results in quite a bit of overheating.
[09:33] <Seveas> neetz: you don't have an X issue. YOu have a broken filesystem, which is causing many things (including X) to not be able to start. You need to fix that filesystem.
[09:34] <Ben64> neetz: i'm going to go ahead and ignore that link. what problems are you experiencing yourself and how did they start
[09:34] <theadmin> Oh, yeah, the card is Geforce GT 635M
[09:36] <neetz> Ben64:  I don't know myself , One day It did not boot , it was working al lfine .. it gets stuck .. , six months back I had a similar issue, and It was the Nvidiea Graphics Driver Problem (Unity ) i guess , I did not anything , I reforamatted everything . .now again i face that problem
[09:36] <neetz> Seveas:  Why Doesnt it boot to liveCd ? I guess it's a Graphics Issue
[09:37] <Seveas> neetz: and I guess your hardware is either broken or incompatible with Ubuntu - that's why I stopped responding, not worth my time.
[09:38] <neetz> Seveas:  Yeah Coz Unity is the problem , But it worked fine for al lthese days , and plus a lot of systems are unity
[09:39] <Ben64> neetz: if you have the same problems cropping up and now you're unable to boot the livecd, i'd have to say it could be a hardware problem
[09:40] <Quibus> Can someone help me please?
[09:41] <neetz> Ben64: :( , can i run any command so that I can clear and reinstall the filesystem errors
[09:41] <icedwater> Quibus: just ask the question, you're waiting twice as long as you need to.
[09:42] <Quibus> I'm running an SVN server on 12.04, and I made a post-commit hook that works fine when I set its permissions on 755. Works fine for the rest of the day then. But next day, the permission of the file is changed to 655 and the post-commit hook starts to fail. Why is that permission changed? And how do I stop this? I can't find a cronjob or something that would do this. Is there some Ubuntu security feature that removes execute permission
[09:42] <Quibus> icedwater: I'm repeating my question.... I had already asked it earlier without any reaction
[09:42] <icedwater> Quibus: ah, OK. I didn't see that in the past half hour or so. No wonder.
[09:43] <ezra-s> Quibus, wth is a "post-commit hook"
[09:43] <Quibus> ezra-s: a script that the SVN server runs when someone does a commit
[09:43] <icedwater> Do remember that we are (mostly) volunteers here and are also pretty busy, so it's not unusual to have to wait quite a while.
[09:43] <Quibus> But the script doesn't run if it doesn't have execute permissions of course
[09:44] <Quibus> icedwater: of course. It's just that I got 0 reactions within 1.5 hours :P
[09:44] <Quibus> oh, 2 hours
[09:44] <icedwater> I don't know of any such security feature though.
[09:45] <Quibus> I've now even setup a cronjob that fixes the permissions daily again and an inotify icronjob to get a mail when the permission is changed again
[09:45] <Ben64> neetz: you can try
[09:45] <Quibus> But I can't find out what is changing it in the first place
[09:45] <neetz> Ben64:  I am not findin any commands :(
[09:45] <Ben64> neetz: fsck
[09:46] <ezra-s> Quibus, so you made a script set 755 permissions on it and it's changing. Have you check the time/date of the script which was last updated in case it received updates after your permission set to make sure nothing is modifying it afterwards.  Or maybe there is a chance the script is setting permissions itself and by accident changing it's own permissions?
[09:46] <neetz> did that in root shell , did not solve
[09:46] <Ben64> what did it do
[09:46] <ezra-s> Quibus, have you tried moving that script out of that path and see if permissions keep changing?
[09:47] <Quibus> ezra-s: the script isn't changing permissions itself, it simply sends a mail. The script actually works fine. I even added a 0-sized dummy file in the same dir and that file also got it's x-permission removed
[09:47] <neetz> Ben64:  Nothing , it said done .. and came out of shell
[09:47] <icedwater> Quibus: which directory is that?
[09:47] <ezra-s> Quibus, which path is it if I may ask?
[09:48] <Quibus> It is in /srv/svn/<REOPNAME>/hooks
[09:48] <Quibus> REPONAME
[09:48] <Ben64> neetz: try it again
[09:48] <neetz> Ben64: K
[09:49] <ezra-s> Quibus, try this.. move the script to /home/youruser/bin/ and then to a symbolik link in  /srv/svn/<REOPNAME>/hooks pointing to it
[09:49] <ezra-s> check if it keeps happening
[09:49] <theadmin> Don't you need to call fsck with a partition argument?
[09:49] <theadmin> Ben64: ^
[09:49] <Quibus> *something* is changing the permissions. I checked the attributes modification date (ls -lsct) and saw it got changed last night at 23:12 for instance. But no cron job was running at that time.
[09:49] <ezra-s> if not maybe it is a svn thing
[09:49] <TJ-> aossi: Have you made progress?
[09:49] <aossi> eh slowly.
[09:50] <ezra-s> Quibus, svn has a permament process like a daemon?
[09:50] <icedwater> Not that I know of...
[09:50] <ezra-s> Quibus, have you made sure it is not svn related process changing permissions?
[09:50] <Ben64> theadmin: nope
[09:50] <icedwater> Did you check where your /srv/ is mounted and how?
[09:50] <Quibus> ezra-s: I checked on #svn and no one there knows of such a thing
[09:51] <TJ-> aossi: Do you have wifi yet?
[09:51] <Quibus> Google didn't turn up anything like it
[09:51] <aossi> TJ- bout to see if what i was to do worked
[09:51] <Quibus>  /srv is not a separate mount
[09:51] <Quibus> it's just a dir in the root
[09:52] <Quibus> and it's completely owned by www-data
[09:52] <icedwater> Which is also the Apache user, right?
[09:52] <Quibus> yeas
[09:53] <Quibus> There is some apache2 cronjob, but that only clears the cache.
[09:54] <aossi> ugh back at grub.....
[09:54] <Quibus> There doesn't seem to be a separate subversion daemon process running
[09:55] <icedwater> Quibus: would this be in any way relevant? http://serverfault.com/questions/188654/svn-post-commit-user-permissions
[09:55] <icedwater> The answers seem sparse, to be fair.
[09:55] <ezra-s> I'd say file is being re-recreated somehow and umask is different than permission set, bt I don't know svn enough I'm speculating
[09:56] <xjkx> I have no folder icons. Using either thunar or pcmanfm I just get the name of the folders without the icon. I run ubuntu 13.10/64 bits, but I dont use gnome, I use openbox
[09:56] <Quibus> icedwater: the hook works fine, until the permissions get changed without me doing that
[09:56] <Quibus> ezra-s: that's a good idea, it could be recreated for some reason
[09:57] <Quibus> umask is 0002
[09:57] <Quibus> but the file changes from 755 to 655
[09:57] <ezra-s> 655 does not make much sense really :(
[09:58] <ezra-s> Quibus, go brute force grep everything under /srv for "655"
[09:58] <Quibus> ezra-s: there are complete svn repositories in there... but what would be the use of that grep?
[09:59] <icedwater> Hmm, doesn't a umask of 0002 force the all-write bit off?
[09:59] <ezra-s> Quibus, check if there is a file or script or anything applying those, that's why I said "brute force" :P
[09:59] <Quibus> ah like that
[09:59] <Quibus> I grepped on chmod a bit in the cron dir, but not in the srv stuff
[10:00] <Quibus> it could also do a -x
[10:00] <Quibus> not necessarily 655
[10:00] <ezra-s> Quibus, since you have the date of last modification different or so I understood you could heck if that behaviour persists every day and be there waiting and checking processes for the next time it happens
[10:00] <icedwater> Yeah
[10:00] <icedwater> I was thinking chmod -x
[10:00] <ezra-s> s/heck/check
[10:00] <Quibus> ezra-s: as I said: I put an inotify cron job on it
[10:00] <ezra-s> then grep for chmod
[10:01] <ezra-s> Quibus, not for a cronjob, but an already running process re-inforcing certain policy
[10:01] <ezra-s> or whatever may be happening
[10:01] <Quibus> The inotify will mail me if the permission of the file is changed
[10:01] <ezra-s> so you will know the time it happens
[10:02] <Quibus> yes
[10:02] <Quibus> But the c-time also shows that
[10:02] <Quibus> (last night at 23:12)
[10:02] <ezra-s> make it send you a list of processes too
[10:02] <kivilahtio_> Hello! Could anyone help me with setting up "outbound traffic via a specific ethernet interface"?
[10:02] <Quibus> I tried sending the output of 'lsof | grep post-commit' but that was empty when I changed it myself
[10:03] <Quibus> I also tried sending the output of "ps -Af | grep post-commit" but that only resulted in the grep command
[10:03] <geirha> Quibus: Are there any cronjobs running at around 23:11?
[10:03] <Quibus> geirha: no, I checked that in syslog,
[10:03] <kivilahtio_> I managed to configure outbound packets to use a new routing table with a default gateway for the ethernet device, and I can verify packets leaving my system, but the replies cannot be forwarded to the bridge :(
[10:03] <geirha> Quibus: was there a commit around 23:12 ?
[10:03] <Quibus> a job ran before that but was closed a few minutes prior to the change at 23:12
[10:04] <geirha> Quibus: well, it could've spawned a background job which lived on for a while, but that would be a silly thing to do in a cronjob
[10:04] <Quibus> geirha: there was no commit at all
[10:06] <TJ-> Quibus: have you checked the umask of the user the svn process runs as?
[10:07] <ezra-s> Quibus, I would forget "post-commit" and go checking something more... generic
[10:07] <TJ-> Quibus: The umask could cause permissions changes when a checkout or update is done
[10:07] <geirha> Quibus: On a side note, you could change ownership to root, that way, only root will be able to chmod it.
[10:08] <geirha> If it still changes mode after that, you'll know it's either someone logged in as root doing it, or some root cronjob or similar.
[10:08] <mus1c> whats the topic??
[10:10] <theadmin> mus1c: Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel. This channel is for questions related to support issues with the Ubuntu operating system, software for it, etc.
[10:10] <geirha> mus1c: his svn post-commit hook script gets a weird mode change out of nowhere
[10:10] <theadmin> ...Oh, that.
[10:10] <theadmin> Heh, I didn't understand the question, apologies mus1c
[10:10] <mus1c> can you ask for xubuntu issues here or is there another blog for that?
[10:11] <theadmin> mus1c: Xubuntu is fine, you can ask your question, however #xubuntu also exists.
[10:11] <theadmin> mus1c: (also, these places here are called "channels", not blogs)
[10:12] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding qemu-kvm im trying to create a virtual machine, it get created, but i can't connect to the console with vnc. any help would be apriciated
[10:13] <ezra-s> Zorky, vnc is not made to connect to "console" afaik
[10:14] <Zorky> ezra-s:  when i use virt-manager from a ubuntu machine running qemu-kvm i can set a vnc display, it gets set on per default. but with a change to port you can connect to the vm with vnc and control it
[10:14] <mus1c> I have xubuntu 12.04 and it runs great on the guest account but not so great on the primary account How to get my original account running smoothly again?
[10:15] <ezra-s> Zorky, ohh I see, my apologies
[10:17] <mus1c> sorry about the blogs reference, that was another question, I have been here before but usually as an observer
[10:17] <theadmin> mus1c: ...You'lll have to be more descriptive, how does it run "not so great"? Is there some sort of lag in some apps? All apps? Does it crash?
[10:19] <mus1c> pretty much while surfing the Web, it drags and videos will not play smoothly also on the Web
[10:19] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding qemu-kvm im trying to create a virtual machine, it get created, but i can't connect to the console with vnc. any help would be apriciated
[10:22] <mus1c> I have used do it yourself websites with some success but I keep coming back to this issue on the Web. Could it be a problem with the hard drive - defective or needing to be repaired??
[10:23] <theadmin> mus1c: Meh. Clear your browser's data, it might help
[10:23] <theadmin> Also videos is, well, Flash... Flash can't be helped, it's terrible
[10:25] <neal63> Is there a general off topic channel?
[10:25] <theadmin> neal63: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <dkozel> Hi. I'm trying to compile a c source file and it includes <libc.h>, gcc isn't finding that header, I have linux-libc-dev installed (13.10). Any advice?
[10:27] <neal63> theadmin: no I mean just a catch all kind of thing
[10:27] <jdm> whats the best windows 7 software for disk partitioning and OS migration?
[10:28] <theadmin> jdm: ...That's offtopic, this is an Ubuntu channel
[10:28] <Ben64> jdm: probably should be asking in ##windows
[10:28] <neal63> JDM: disk management
[10:29] <theadmin> dkozel: ...I don't know what that header may be, but it's not part of linux-libc-dev. The only references I find about it are Plan9-related
[10:29] <theadmin> A file search in the repos isn't bringing much up either
[10:30] <dkozel> theadmin: anything that brings up Plan9 as an associated term is wierd
[10:31] <dkozel> I'm not having much luck either finding information about it. the nanomsg project includes it
[10:31] <neal63> jdm: did that answer your question?
[10:33] <theadmin> dkozel: I found... this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/frama-c-base
[10:34] <theadmin> dkozel: But I'm not sure this is what you want
[10:38] <johnas> ciao ragazzi come si va su mirc da qui!!???
[10:38] <theadmin> !it | johnas
[10:38] <fidel> !it | johnas
[10:56] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Thunderbird on Ubuntu LTS. How can I get rid of really large cache files in ~/thunderbird of IMAP accounts I already deleted?
[11:07] <nitin> hello .. guys is it worth to configure a vps running ubuntu server where apache is actually running and a website is being hosted to be configured as a VPN server as well..?
[11:08] <llutz> nitin: vpn to achieve what? if you want it for security/anonymity - No, since you don't control the VPS
[11:10] <NBhosting> euhm any of you ever had apt-get update waiting at 0%
[11:10] <NBhosting> fresh install
[11:10] <NBhosting> i can ping outside
[11:11] <nitin> llutz, hmm ok then what do u suggest for VPN ?
[11:11] <llutz> nitin: vpn to do what? for most purposes a VPS should be fine, it's just not "safe"
[11:11] <NBhosting> 0% connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <nitin> NBhosting, may be u need to see if repository are edited with good mirrors
[11:12] <geirha> NBhosting: sounds like the nl mirror is having trouble
[11:12] <NBhosting> can i switch that quickly?
[11:12] <geirha> NBhosting: yes, run software sources (software-properties-gtk)
[11:13] <NBhosting> nl.archive.ubuntu.com seems to redirect to ubuntuarchive.nl
[11:13] <nitin> NBhosting,  you better download a fresh one and install it.. instead of modifying repo list which may lead in some crash later on
[11:13] <NBhosting> a fresh iso you mean?
[11:13] <NBhosting> ah wait there it goes
[11:13] <NBhosting> slow but it goes
[11:13] <nitin> NBhosting, after all the time to freshly download and install a new one and the time for updating with the new repo might be the same time
[11:14] <nitin> NBhosting,  oh ok if its slow then its another issue
[11:14] <geirha> nitin: he's doing an update, not a release upgrade
[11:14] <NBhosting> yeah i gues there server is having issues
[11:14] <nitin> NBhosting, try this command >> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:15] <geirha> NBhosting: Occationally happens with the mirror I use too, I either wait it out, or switch to main server temporarily when it happens
[11:15] <Quibus> sorry, I was AFK for a while
[11:15] <NBhosting> yeah noiw it hanging again on 100% connection to security.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <Quibus> TJ-: this file is not part of the repo, so it shouldn't be changed/updated when any commit/update is done
[11:15] <Quibus> It's only executed
[11:16] <nitin> llutz, what do u advice for VPN ?
[11:16] <Quibus> Changing owner to root might be a good idea
[11:16] <geirha> NBhosting: hm. could be the issue is on your side too. Sounds similar to what may happen when two machines accidentally got the same ip
[11:17] <NBhosting> mm let me try switching ip
[11:17] <Quibus> gotta go, thanks for your suggestions and ideas
[11:19] <hello123> hello
[11:19] <NBhosting> switching ip seems to fix it
[11:19] <TJ-> Quibus: is the repo directory on a remote NFS mount?
[11:19] <llutz> nitin: vpn to do what? for most purposes a VPS should be fine, it's just not "safe". if you rely on anonymity/security you have to find a vpn-provider you trust (hrm...) or you have to host all your stuff on your own/under your own control
[11:19] <hello123> guys can any 1 help me :(
[11:19] <hello123> i need help with fixing partitions
[11:20] <hello123> i have 6 x 4tb drives but /home showing only 4tb :(
[11:20] <NBhosting> ah i had a typo in my interface on gateway
[11:20] <hello123> os - ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <MrQuist> hello123, are you by any means using RAID? because if so, its kinda logical
[11:21] <MrQuist> hello123, chat here please
[11:21] <NBhosting> ah k, no difrance, must be the repo
[11:21] <hello123> yes i am on raid
[11:22] <MrQuist> so you're using 6 4TB drives in RAID-5 and asking why you only have 4TB?
[11:22] <hello123> i am not having it in raid 5
[11:22] <MrQuist> sorry, RAID-1
[11:22] <MrQuist> what raid are you using?
[11:23] <hello123> i dont know acutallly how to make it raid 5
[11:23] <hello123>  i have sent you pic
[11:23] <MrQuist> please use pastebin and send the links here
[11:24] <hello123> http://pastebin.com/Mb0CLYQp
[11:24] <hello123> i want to make it raid 5 + 24tb in /home
[11:24] <pi_____> hi
[11:25] <pi_____> someone know to keyshortcut for enabling mouseemu in ubuntu?
[11:26] <pi_____> and disabling
[11:26] <halyna_> - WHO
[11:27] <hello123> how to make it raid 5?
[11:27] <NBhosting> is there a command to switch mirror
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: mirror for what?
[11:27] <NBhosting> for apt-get
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: software centre can do that
[11:27] <NBhosting> im running from console
[11:28] <hello123> MRquist ?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: or you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add edit the lines manually
[11:28] <NBhosting> ah k, checked that files, thats alot of lines :D
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: you can use sed if you are good with it
[11:29] <NBhosting> kinda silly that apt-get doesnt notice the bad mirror and switches itself
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: you could report a bug
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: but it could forever switch if you have no web connection at all, it will assume the mirror is down
[11:30] <hello123> any 1 here ??? help me fixing software raid
[11:30] <NBhosting> yeah i might do that, maybe they fix it, ill give it some time to do the update, it seems to be doing something after a while
[11:31] <NBhosting> looks like security.ubuntu.com is having issues
[11:32] <pi_____> hello123: helou
[11:32] <pikaren_> hello
[11:32] <hello123> hi pi
[11:32] <NBhosting> ping to it is fine do
[11:32] <pi_____> hello123: what you are using?
[11:32] <neal63> Why is it that there are 1510 users connected but only like 10 people talking?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> NBhosting: the server may be up but the service may be hung on the server
[11:32] <NBhosting> yeah looks like it
[11:33] <hello123> pi 6x4tb hdd raid 1
[11:33] <node549> neal63 because other 1500 have nothing to talk about
[11:33] <pi_____> hello123: ok
[11:33] <hello123> mgiht be 1500 people know about the questions? :p
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> pi_____: s/he's reinstalling, should fix it
[11:33] <hello123> and no one replies
[11:33] <up201307823> :)
[11:34] <hello123> action it wont
[11:34] <hello123> reinstalling 3 times
[11:34] <hello123> *time
[11:34] <pi_____> hello123:  ok, so you need to do raid from four hdd?
[11:34] <neal63> Doubt it
[11:34] <hello123> trying to fix it with mdadm
[11:34] <hello123> 8tried
[11:34] <up201304474> :)
[11:34] <hello123> i thought some 1 could help me here
[11:35] <up201307823> :p
[11:35] <hello123> pi_ actually i just have to make it into raid 5 by deleting metadevices
[11:35] <node549> maybe they watch tv or someth
[11:35] <hello123> but i dont know the proper procedure/code to do it so reinstalling the os 3rd time
[11:35] <pi_____> hello123: aha
[11:35] <pi_____> hello123:  which os?
[11:36] <NBhosting> ow seems to be more complaints about it in google
[11:36] <NBhosting> even the us version is down
[11:36] <hello123> come on. some one might know about it in 1500
[11:36] <pi_____> hello123: and which soft you use?
[11:36] <hello123> pi_ reinstalling ubuntu 12.04
[11:36] <NBhosting> can anyone conform, not beeing able to upgrade?
[11:36] <hello123> soft ? for?
[11:37] <pi_____> hello123: ok, you dont use grafic desktop, isnt it?
[11:37] <hello123> pi  i m new to linux
[11:37] <hello123> :(
[11:37] <pi_____> hello123: never mind
[11:37] <hello123> :)
[11:38] <NBhosting> yeah i got the same on other machines
[11:38] <hello123> might be other 1400 people -> BOT
[11:38] <hello123> :P
[11:38] <hello123> pi do you know about mdamn?
[11:39] <pi_____> hello123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[11:39] <pi_____> hello123:  for example
[11:39] <hello123> pi__ ahh its not gonna work. some 1 who is experiance would do it
[11:41] <pi_____> hello123: it will be work
[11:42] <hello123> ok
[11:45] <pi_____> hello123: or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAh53AXSXA
[11:46] <hello123> pi_ its not home pc its server :(
[11:47] <hateball> hello123: could be you'll get better answers in #ubuntu-server
[11:48] <hello123> thanks a lot for this :D
[11:48] <hateball> hello123: Not that RAID is server only, just... most questions around here are desktop oriented and most desktop users don't use RAID :p
[11:55] <ariisio> Hello, I'm trying to install virtualbox on Ubuntu Server 13.10 and somehow the installation got stuck at Regenerating fonts cache... Any advice how to proceed?
[11:56] <NBhosting> why would u install that once ubuntu :P
[11:56] <NBhosting> install proxmox and install ur vms on that
[11:56] <ariisio> Well, lets just say it needs to be installed ^^
[11:57] <ariisio> I'm just wondering why it got stuck at "Regenerating fonts cache..."
[11:57] <NBhosting> maybe the same problem as me, ubuntu servers are slow/down today
[11:57] <jpds> NBhosting: That has nothing to do with package installation.
[11:58] <NBhosting> if it does get the font from there
[11:58] <Ben64> ariisio: what exactly did you do
[11:58] <ariisio> That's what I thought. So you suggest I just wait?
[11:58] <jpds> NBhosting: Yes, but he's beyond that stage and onto the actual installation.
[11:58] <NBhosting> ah k
[11:58] <jpds> ariisio: Check "ps auxf" and see what it's running.
[12:02] <ariisio> How can I check the "ps auxf" if it's still running?
[12:03] <ariisio> And here is the link I followed
[12:03] <ariisio> https://gist.github.com/mikedevita/7461832
[12:03] <ariisio> And everything went fine until step 6. "..... Setting up fontconfig-config (2.10.93-0ubuntu1) ...
[12:03] <ariisio> Setting up libfontconfig1:amd64 (2.10.93-0ubuntu1) ...
[12:03] <ariisio> Setting up fontconfig (2.10.93-0ubuntu1) ...
[12:03] <ariisio> Regenerating fonts cache...
[12:04] <jpds> ariisio: Open a new SSH connection?
[12:04] <l00k1n-4-f4c7s> someone explain to me why ubuntu (linux) is so much more secure than using windows? im not a comp nub just never attempted the switch
[12:04] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: There are a varity of reasons.
[12:05] <Ben64> well one problem there ariisio is you added a 3rd party repository. we can't support those here, and virtualbox is in the default repositories, so that is wholly unnecessary
[12:05] <ariisio> jpds: ps auxf gives a whole bunch of results
[12:06] <bekks> BEsides the fact that virtualbox in the ubuntu repos is broken for ages now.
[12:06] <l00k1n-4-f4c7s> briefly, could you convince me why i shouldn't be running windows and why i should switch to ubuntu
[12:06] <Ben64> hmm... nope not broken
[12:06] <jpds> ariisio: Find the tree under dpkg.
[12:06] <bekks> It is. Entirely. Due to kernel ABI changes that old 4.1.x vbox doesnt work with current LTS enablement stack kernels.
[12:06] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: Go and try it for yourself and make that decision on your own.
[12:06] <yeyeman> does ubuntu have a web server running by default?
[12:07] <bekks> Thats what I call "broken".
[12:07] <yeyeman> I get a message when I try my ip
[12:07] <jpds> yeyeman: No, there are no services listening on ports by default.
[12:07] <Ben64> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: thats really not within the scope of this channel. you should use what you want and what serves your needs. a linux based chat channel may provide more of what you're looking for in a discussion on that matter
[12:07] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: It's not that hard to make a bootable USB key and run it off that.
[12:08] <yeyeman> jpds: Do you know how I can shut down the service providing the "It works ..." message?
[12:08] <Ben64> bekks: considering that i run it on my computer here, which is LTS and using a more recent kernel, i'd have to say you are incorrect in this matter
[12:08] <jpds> yeyeman: That's usually Apache.
[12:08] <jpds> yeyeman: sudo service apache2 stop
[12:08] <ariisio> jpds: I can't seem to find dpkg...
[12:08] <bekks> Ben64: So which kernel version do you use, and which vbox version do you use?
[12:08] <l00k1n-4-f4c7s> i understand, but is it security reasons? less limitations for open-source progs, what?
[12:09] <Ben64> bekks: which is not even related to the issue at hand. the page linked to was a way to get virtualbox installed on saucy, which is not LTS
[12:09] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: Not here, go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:09] <yeyeman> jpds, thanks
[12:10] <l00k1n-4-f4c7s> ...pretty on-topic if you ask me and/or ubuntu.com/tour/ for directing me to here
[12:10] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: This is a support channel.
[12:10] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: Not a "convince me to use Linux" channel.
[12:10] <bekks> Ben64: Well, if you are not interested in a technical, ubuntu related discussion. there you go. It was a mistake to remove the ignore from yu, as it turns out. I am correcting it again.
[12:10] <l00k1n-4-f4c7s> im not looking for detailed explaination... but ok thanks for NOT supporting me
[12:11] <jpds> l00k1n-4-f4c7s: You're free to talk about basically anything in the offtopic channel.
[12:11] <pikaren_> test
[12:11] <yeyeman> jpds, it started back up again automatically
[12:11] <Barcelona1937> ei good mornings all i'm on nice ubuntu 12.04 but cause i got not so much free space on root directory, i completly remove the /src/cache directory with sudo and now is not possible to open software-center
[12:11] <jpds> yeyeman: Nice.
[12:11] <yeyeman> I have apache virus on my comp!!!
[12:11] <jpds> yalue: Look at the logs in /var/log/apache2/
[12:12] <jpds> Err, sorry, that was for yeyeman.
[12:12] <jpds> yeyeman: And maybe /var/log/syslog.
[12:12] <Capprentice> Hi ! is there a way to reset pulse audio to its default setup ?
[12:13] <Ben65_> bekks: 1. its not related to any support question going on in here. 2. if you want to have that discussion in offtopic, i'd welcome it. 3.  fail at some point if it runs for too long?
[12:13] <bekks> Ben65_: Ignore set again. For ignore evasion.
[12:14] <Seveas> Ben64: welcome to the club of people ignored by bekks :-)
[12:14] <bekks> Ben65_: And basically I dont care about your opinion anymore. </0.02$>
[12:14] <BorisTheAnimal> hi, need some help, installed ati amd drivers for my 7870 tahiti card but when I rebooted I came to a black screen and a pointer as an X with white borders, any ideas what to do?
[12:15] <yeyeman> bekks: well if it's an unwanted service that starts itself up when I try to shut it down it's at least starting to look, feel and smell like a virus
[12:15] <Ben64> yeyeman: it only starts because you installed it
[12:15] <bekks> yeyeman: If it is unwanted, then uninstall it. It still doesnt quialify Apache being a virus.
[12:15] <jpds> yeyeman: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[12:16] <ariisio> jpds: I found the dpkg tree
[12:16] <ikonia> thank the lord for common sense from jpds
[12:16] <jpds> ikonia: As always.
[12:17] <yeyeman> guys I was mostly kidding, It's just a bit annoying that it doesn't stop
[12:17] <Capprentice> What is the channel that deals with ubuntu audio production ?
[12:17] <ikonia> Capprentice: what do you mean ?
[12:17] <ariisio>  "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfi" and under this one "fc-cache -s -f -v" and it says that CPU% is 99.9... o.O?
[12:18] <BorisTheAnimal> can anyone help me?
[12:19] <bekks> ariisio: It is rebuilding the font cache.
[12:19] <OerHeks> BorisTheAnimal, how did you install the ATI driver?
[12:19] <ariisio> So it's not stuck...?
[12:19] <bekks> ariisio: No.
[12:19] <ariisio> It's been running for 40 mins now
[12:20] <Ben64> ariisio: you really should undo all that you did and install the version of virtualbox that ubuntu provides
[12:20] <bekks> ariisio: You might have a slow CPU or a pretty big font cache. Nonetheless you can kill that process without doing any harm.
[12:20] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have created custom desktop entries  where are .desktop files stored ?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> BorisTheAnimal: which release are you using?
[12:20] <Seveas> ariisio: don't kill that process willy-nilly, it'll cause apt to be confused.
[12:21] <BorisTheAnimal> OerHeks, I followed this guide http://highoncoins.com/litecoin-rig/how-to-install-ubuntu-and-optimize-cgminer-for-litecoin-mining-rig/
[12:21] <BorisTheAnimal> scroll down to like step 9 or 10
[12:21] <Seveas> best let it do its thing, so the postinst script finishes succesfully and dpkg registers the package as fully installed
[12:21] <pikaren> screen irssi
[12:21] <Seveas> pikaren: this is not your shell :P
[12:22] <ariisio> I wonder how long it'll take....
[12:22] <Seveas> ariisio: how long has it taken so far?
[12:22] <ariisio> Around 45 mins
[12:22] <Seveas> ooh, that's far too long
[12:22] <Seveas> is your harddisk light blinking?
[12:22] <BorisTheAnimal> ActionParsnip, went to amd homepage and took latest stable linux amd driver
[12:22] <OerHeks> BorisTheAnimal, so that howto uses drivers not from our repositorys?
[12:22] <Seveas> or is it not actually writing anything?
[12:23] <ariisio> It seems it's actually not even writing anything
[12:23] <BorisTheAnimal> Oer, yes?
[12:24] <oskie> what is this crap called cloud-init ... ok, sorry, that was a little troll-y
[12:24] <Seveas> ariisio: ok, kill tge fc-cache process and tell us what dpkg says afterwards. This *may* cause the package to not be registered as installed
[12:24] <jpds> oskie: It's a thing that runs with a cloud instance... inits.
[12:25] <oskie> all I need to know is how to disable it...
[12:25] <BorisTheAnimal> however I can come in to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f2 or f1..
[12:25] <OerHeks> BorisTheAnimal, i would not trust that, get the drivers from our repository, do not use those amd drivers repacked from an android forum
[12:26] <jpds> oskie: It shouldn't be enabled to start with.
[12:26] <Seveas> oskie: you could remove the cloud-init package :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> BorisTheAnimal: why did you not use the packaged driver in the repos?
[12:26] <ariisio> Seveas: Ok, I killed the process
[12:26] <BorisTheAnimal> okay but how do I go back?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> BorisTheAnimal: blacklist the driver module perhaps
[12:26] <Seveas> ariisio: ok, can you please run this command and pastebin its output: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:26] <BorisTheAnimal> AP, I´m a noob when it comes to ubuntu..
[12:27] <Seveas> that should fix things we may have broken by killing the process
[12:27] <ariisio> Seveas: Again, it's trying to regenerate the fonts cache and it doesn't seem to do anything
[12:28] <BorisTheAnimal> so can I somehow from the terminal uninstall the drivers and reboot to come back to an earlier point when they were not installed?
[12:28] <linu1> hi all, is it possiable to pair bluetooth devices without pin using bt-tools ?
[12:28] <jpds> ariisio: Is there any reason you can't, like, use KVM?
[12:28] <Seveas> ariisio: can you pastebin the output of ps aux | grep fc-cache
[12:29] <Seveas> jpds: well, at this point that doesn't matter - dpkg will want fc-cache to finish no matter what packages he wants to install :)
[12:29] <Capprentice> Need help here: Ubuntu is not displaying Front Microphone in Sound Manager. (http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/1.png  ! Front Microphone is connected and working ! But Im getting my own voice echoed back to my ears ! (Sorry for bad English !). Here is another screen-shot. I have tried to follow the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting Guide : The output for 'aplay -l' is not exactly like what is said is supposed to be there
[12:29] <Capprentice> . Why there are two cards. I only have ONE and that is integrated in mother board. http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/6.png
[12:30] <BorisTheAnimal> oh and while installing the amd driver there was an error installing fglrx.
[12:30] <Barcelona1937> how i can restore a directory i erased with root in ubuntu 12.04¿?
[12:30] <Ben64> ariisio: or install the version of virtualbox that comes with ubuntu? why add a repository? why?!
[12:30] <Seveas> Barcelona1937: you restore from your backups
[12:31] <Barcelona1937> ok
[12:31] <Barcelona1937> but where i found¿?
[12:31] <OerHeks> BorisTheAnimal, bitcoin mining and re-packed videodriver, ... classic
[12:31] <Seveas> Barcelona1937: wherever you put them
[12:32] <Capprentice> Anyone knows of a IRC channel where I might get the right people who deals with Audio Production on Ubuntu ?
[12:32] <Barcelona1937> i make usual backups with the ubuntu default tool, but if only wanna restore a few folders where i found this¿?r
[12:32] <BorisTheAnimal> not bitcoin but yes mining.
[12:33] <Seveas> Capprentice: you may be lucky in #ubuntustudio, not sure though
[12:34] <Capprentice> Hmm okay ! Thanks.
[12:34] <BorisTheAnimal> Oer, okay.
[12:37] <Barcelona1937> ok thx Seveas
[12:38] <BorisTheAnimal> how does sudo apt-get purge work?
[12:38] <Seveas> BorisTheAnimal: it removes the pacakge and its configfiles
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> BorisTheAnimal: read the man page
[12:39] <BorisTheAnimal> okay, but AP it is better to ask here.
[12:41] <Seveas> BorisTheAnimal: neh, it's better to read manpages. You can learn far more from them :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> BorisTheAnimal: have you read the man page before asking?
[12:43] <administrator> Andrzej
[12:43] <Guest79406> Witam
[12:44] <BorisTheAnimal> Sev + AP, but what is the meaning of this then?
[12:44] <Guest79406> Witam
[12:48] <Capprentice> Need help here: Ubuntu is not displaying Front Microphone in Sound Manager.(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/1.png  ! Front Microphone is connected and working ! But Im getting my own voice echoed back to my ears ! (Sorry for bad English !). Here is another screen-shot. I have tried to follow the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting Guide : The output for 'aplay -l' is not exactly like what is said is supposed to be there.
[12:48] <Capprentice>  Why there are two cards. I only have ONE and that is integrated in mother board. http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/6.png
[12:50] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, is there any possibility to output to hdmi audio only but no video?
[12:50] <Wiz_KeeD> to the tv that is
[12:51] <Seveas> Wiz_KeeD: I guess you can use xrandr to switch of that display output
[12:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I can?
[12:51] <Wiz_KeeD> but not the audio?
[12:51] <Seveas> xrandr only does displays
[12:52] <Wiz_KeeD> how do I cut it?
[12:52]  * Wiz_KeeD has a suspicion audio will be cut as well
[12:53] <ikonia> point pulse at the device
[12:53] <ikonia> you can use hdmi for audio only
[12:53] <Seveas>  xrandr --output HDMI1 --off
[12:53] <ikonia> the only niggle is sometimes the interface doesn't activate if there is no video
[12:53] <Wiz_KeeD> point pulse?
[12:53] <Seveas> rats, now how do I turn it on again?
[12:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Seveas, it cuts the audio too :)
[12:54] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: pulse audio
[12:54] <geirha> aka the sound settings
[12:54] <Seveas> ikonia: ooh, and how would one do that?
[12:55] <Seveas> I need to do that tonight and have no clue :)
[12:55] <ikonia> Seveas: isn't there an admin tool for pulse device ?
[12:55] <ikonia> Seveas: I'm sure there is a tool hang on, let me see if I can dig it out
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> If I turn off the video it does not recognise it
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD> the audio interface I mean
[12:55] <geirha> Sound Settings -> Output tab -> choose hdmi from the list
[12:55] <ikonia> I know it's sometimes a bit buggy with some hdmi cards as they don't activate the port until there is video being sent down them
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD> geirha, if I turn off the video it does not appear in Output
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD> I just want to listen to music on my tv-connected speakers and I don't want it to be turned on for nothing
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't use it as a second monitor or anything
[12:57] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip,I think Alsa is Fine. I can hear sound.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: alsa isnt just sound output
[13:01] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, What that script will do ? I dont recognize every command there in that script.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: it gives details about the sound setup in the system
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: to a very high level
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: if you run the command I gave, it will make a URL of the output of the command, which you can then post in the channel
[13:04] <Capprentice> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f7d1ef4f69b53f84c7069e45bd2273122f3a3ae6
[13:04] <utente> marcua
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   run the large command in step 1 then reboot
[13:06] <pXro> hello
[13:06] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, That is what I did one month ago ! Did not worked !
[13:07] <mellohey> hi, anyone knows  when and if the wifi card in some intel laptops will work? i have a hp 430 g1 that dosent work with wifi, iv read that this is a bug, but tried all the way back to 12.04 up to 14.04 and it wont work with either of them
[13:07] <bekks> mellohey: Which intel wifi card make and model is it exactly?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: so the mic feeds to the output too? Is that the issue?
[13:08] <Capprentice> Yes,.
[13:09] <mellohey> bekks: im not sure atm but i think its Ralink
[13:09] <bekks> mellohey: So its not an Intel wifi card at all.
[13:09] <bekks> mellohey: Nonetheless, we need to know the exact make and model.
[13:10] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, is this unexpected - killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*rm: cannot remove `/home/soham/.config/pulse/*': No such file or directory
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: in alsamixer   set mic boost to zero, does it help
[13:11] <Capprentice> Wait ! Let me check :)
[13:11] <mellohey> bekks: ok, im curently on a hp 4340s and its the smae problem with this and the wifi adapter is  Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[13:12] <mellohey> bekks: but what i did find out was that if i use the ubunut 13.04 then and only then would the wifi work but not with any other version
[13:13] <bekks> mellohey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working
[13:13] <bekks> mellohey: 13.04 is EOL, upgrade to a supported release first.
[13:13] <james-ubyssey> hey so about an houra go I just restarted and my sound stopped working
[13:14] <james-ubyssey> and uh... I've restarted a few times since then and nothing... alsa seems to say everything is enabled
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: yes as you will have only one of the folders. Older Ubuntus have ~/.pulse*  newer has the folder in ~/.config
[13:15] <Capprentice> Oh !
[13:15] <Capprentice> Wait im uploading the alsamixer layout !
[13:15] <mellohey> bekks: thanx alot will try this and hopefully it will work on both laptops
[13:16] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/123.png
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: scroll more to the right, there are more channels (look at te right of the terminal
[13:20] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/cappredia/45.png
[13:20] <Capprentice> They are disabled.
[13:22] <u1> erertert
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: I'd play with those levels, see what reduces the sound coming back into the speaker.
[13:23] <u1> hi all !   I love ubuntu
[13:23] <Capprentice> Okay! I will try...But what about the Microphone being Displayed in the Sound Manager ?
[13:24] <hoodedice> Xubuntu - I built an app from source, now I want to put an entry to it in the app menu with a custom icon. Putting an entry is okay, but how do I put a custom icon?
[13:25] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, There used to be a "Head Phone" profile. That profile is now entirely absent !
[13:26] <Capprentice> ActionParsnip, How does your Sound Manager looks ! Can you show me a Screenshot ?
[13:28] <BorisTheAnimal> ah, just gonna reinstall ubuntu much easier.
[13:30] <BorisTheAnimal> mm-mh eating cookies and drinking milk.
[13:31] <Foufoutakos>  /server nana.irc.gr
[13:32] <audictive> hoodedice: right click to app menu, go to edit menu, find your app and right click on it, choose properties, click on "no icon", click on "select icon from", choose "image files" and point to your icon.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/Audio.JPG
[13:33] <hoodedice> Thank you very much audictive
[13:33] <audictive> np
[13:33] <sgo11> hi, if I install trusty iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/, what should I do when trusty officially released? do I simply run "apt-get upgrade" to update to official release? or do I need to do anything special? thanks.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Capprentice: I dont use microphones on my system. This is from my Trusty box
[13:33] <Capprentice> Okay. Thanks.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: Trusty is offtopic here, as in #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, really? never know that. I will ask there. thanks.
[13:40] <makara> hi. when chrooting, why do we always mount /dev and /dev/pts separately?
[13:41] <siberiannerd> clear
[13:47] <Seveas> makara: because we may need access to them in the chroot
[13:47] <helmut_> hi
[13:47] <arcnewuss> All kernels on my /boot fail to load except for one. The non-working kernels give the error "failed to execute /init"
[13:48] <Seveas> arcnewuss: sounds like broken initramfs is /boot full perhaps?
[13:48] <Seveas> there should be a comma there betweeninitramfs and is :)
[13:49] <bekks> arcnewuss: Can you pastebin "lsb_release -a; uname -a; ls -lha /boot/; dpkg -l | grep linux-image;" please?
[13:50] <arcnewuss> "/boot full"???
[13:50] <siberiannerd> arcnewuss, if those kernels were installed recently - `update-initramfs` on working one
[13:51] <bekks> arcnewuss: ls -lha /boot; as I said
[13:52] <makara> Seveas, why isn't the contents of /dev/pts mounted when I `mount -o bind /dev /tmp/test` ?
[13:54] <Seveas> makara: because it's a separate filesystem
[13:54] <Guest1234567> I want to mount a remote directory (mails) on my current machine so i can backup the directory, what should i use?
[13:54] <makara> Seveas, how can you tell?
[13:54] <siberiannerd> makara, it is http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90285/debian-chroot-blocking-pttys-on-host/90519#90519
[13:54] <arcnewuss> Would this link work? http://pastebin.com/Kyh1r2VZ
[13:55] <Seveas> dennis@seahawk:~$ mount | grep ' /dev'
[13:55] <Seveas> udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[13:55] <Seveas> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[13:55] <Lomaster> hello, lol
[13:55] <arcnewuss> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Kyh1r2VZ
[13:56] <bekks> arcnewuss: I'd remove those 3.8 rc7 kernel in first instance.
[13:56] <Seveas> arcnewuss: ok, so you've got a combination of ancient kernels and non-ubuntu kernels.
[13:56] <Seveas> which one boots?
[13:57] <arcnewuss> only the 3.0.0-16 works
[13:57] <Seveas> arcnewuss: that makes sense, that'an actual kernel meant for your OS. Remove the newer ones
[13:58] <Seveas> arcnewuss: and disable whatever repos you added to install them.
[13:58] <arcnewuss> remove from /boot?
[13:58] <Seveas> remove the packages
[13:58] <Seveas> and the repos
[13:58] <bekks> No. Uninstall it.
[13:58] <arcnewuss> sudo apt-get remove --purge ???
[13:59] <bekks> arcnewuss: Yes.
[13:59] <Seveas> yup
[14:00] <siberiannerd> makara, http://www.nsa.gov/research/_files/selinux/papers/slinux/node60.shtml =)
[14:00] <jang> hey all. Any idea why "sudo service libvirt-bin status" (or any service, for that matter) responds with: "status: Unknown job: libvirt-bin", when "sudo -i service libvirt-bin status" works correctly?
[14:01] <arcnewuss> I installed the kernel by downloading and then dpkg
[14:01] <makara> siberiannerd, looking at that
[14:01] <makara> thanks guys, good night
[14:01] <bekks> arcnewuss: And? Uninstall it, it is a release candidate.
[14:01] <siberiannerd> arcnewuss, was there any real reason for doing so?
[14:02] <arcnewuss> I tried to have a second working kernel.
[14:02] <bekks> arcnewuss: Then you should use the lates 12.04 kernel, and not some weird release candidates.
[14:02] <JuJuBee> I have a shared folder on a server.  When a user places a file in the folder, I want the group to be set to a specific group, how can I accomplish this?
[14:02] <jang> related question: why is the output of "sudo initctl list" much shorter than "sudo -i initctl list" ?
[14:03] <Seveas> jang: hmm, looks like your envionment is slightly messed up. Check the difference between `sudo env` and `sudo -i env` -- that may give you a clue.
[14:03] <arcnewuss> bekks the help is useful. I will first delete the two non-working
[14:03] <siberiannerd> arcnewuss, messing with such things without knowing what problems it may cause is something that needs to be done with caution
[14:05] <arcnewuss> It started with an upgrade to "precise". The upgrade installed new kernels that did not work
[14:05] <jang> ah. UPSTART_SESSION was set. thanks Seveas
[14:07] <arcnewuss> bekks: http://pastebin.com/q8ipck7B
[14:08] <arcnewuss> How would I go about to install working kernel? Should I stick to that one 3.0.0-16
[14:09] <bekks> arcnewuss: Now please read this article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:10] <arcnewuss> Thank you bekks
[14:14] <BillMcCormick> My package manager is broken with dpkg: error processing puppetmaster-passenger (--remove):
[14:15] <BillMcCormick> what should I do?
[14:15] <jpds> BillMcCormick: dpkg --configure -a
[14:16] <BillMcCormick> no, that didn't work
[14:16] <BillMcCormick> it didn't even give me any output
[14:17] <usr13> BillMcCormick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:17] <BillMcCormick> do I need to specify a package
[14:17] <BillMcCormick> ??
[14:18] <usr13> BillMcCormick: No.  Does it do anything for you?
[14:18] <kivilahtio_> Hello! I have a networking question. I have two ethernet devices eth1 and eth4. The default gateway is on eth4's <IP_ADDRESS>, but I would like to listen for ssh-connections only from the eth1-interface (<IP_ADDRESS>) I already set the sshd_config's ListenAddress to <IP_ADDRESS>:22. This doesn't help. I can confirm using tcpdump that I get a connection attempt to eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>:22) but the ssh-connection wont bind?
[14:19] <bekks> kivilahtio_: Restart ssh afterwards.
[14:19] <arcnewuss> initrd.img-3.0.0-16-generic-pae does not boot, but initrd.img-3.0.0-16-generic works well. Should I uninstall ...pae?
[14:20] <bekks> arcnewuss: Which CPU are you on, which exact make and model?
[14:20] <kivilahtio_> bekks: service ssh restart             -> nothing happened (tho I already restarted
[14:20] <bekks> kivilahtio_: What did you expect to happen when issueing that command?
[14:21] <kivilahtio_> bekks: the ssh daemon stop and start again with the new configuration options
[14:21] <bekks> kivilahtio_: Which happened.
[14:22] <kivilahtio_> bekks: running ps aux | grep ssh I find that I have 8 sshd -D processes running ?
[14:23] <usr13> kivilahtio_: sudo service ssh stop && sudo service ssh start
[14:23] <bekks> kivilahtio_: Because there are 8 connections currently? :)
[14:23] <kivilahtio_> usr13: already su
[14:24] <kivilahtio_> bekks: usr13: no, sshd -D is a daemon process which listens, those are not connections
[14:24] <usr13> kivilahtio_: Ok, just thought you could try it if  you were skeptical
[14:25] <arcnewuss> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Kjwt2uS8
[14:25] <bekks> arcnewuss: cat /proc/cpuinfo into a pastebin please.
[14:26] <usr13> kivilahtio_: So what is the matter?  (Are the other devices listening for ssh connection also?
[14:26] <lpapp> hi, is there an alternative parallelized init script system for systemd? Upstart seems to be _much_ smaller, and I am looking for something like that on embedded.
[14:27] <kivilahtio_> usr13: I have 8 ethernet interfaces virtual/physical, so I guess I had sshd -D for every interface
[14:28] <SirLagz> kivilahtio_: or you have one sshd instance listening on all interfaces
[14:28] <jaami> ls -l shows folder but cd to that folder does not work, i think because the folder is hidden , what i can do to use cd on hidden folder?
[14:28] <Touhou11> lpapp: systemd should be small enough for embedded imo, it's modular and you can choose what to build
[14:28] <Touhou11> lpapp: Have you seen http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/MinimalBuilds/ ?
[14:28] <lpapp> Touhou11: it is 12 MB on my desktop
[14:28] <lpapp> we have 8 MB flash _altogether_.
[14:29] <BillMcCormick> dpkg-reconfigure -a did NOT fix the problem either
[14:29] <arcnewuss> bekks: http://pastebin.com/9H58YGgq
[14:29] <Touhou11> lpapp: The desktop version builds with many optional dependences though
[14:29] <usr13> kivilahtio_: ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>:22    #Is that what you have in the config?
[14:29] <kivilahtio_> I simply don't understand why my connection from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>:22 doesnt bind, any ideas where I could start debugging it?
[14:30] <lpapp> Touhou11: and I have not even mentioned dbus and glib
[14:30] <bekks> arcnewuss: Then proceed with reading the article given :)
[14:30] <kivilahtio_> usr13: ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>       Listen 22
[14:31] <arcnewuss> thank you bekks
[14:31] <lpapp> which is another 1.8 MB
[14:31] <ELMEGA> HI
[14:31] <usr13> kivilahtio_: Those are two different lines.  Right?
[14:31] <lpapp> Touhou11: we would also need to strip the hard dependencies down like dbus.
[14:31] <kivilahtio_> usr13: yes
[14:31] <lpapp> cause it is 1.34 MB
[14:31] <usr13> kivilahtio_: Ok, that should work
[14:31] <Whiskers> Hello, I tried to run firefox in my terminal, but it keeps giving me this "(process:2534): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed".  Can anyone help me?
[14:32] <usr13> kivilahtio_: But I don't know what your question is about <IP_ADDRESS> binding to <IP_ADDRESS>:22
[14:33] <usr13> Whiskers: pkill firefox
[14:33] <jaami> i need to change sublime settings but i cannot cd to the folder while locate and ls -a shows me the folder i want to move to
[14:33] <Whiskers> what does pkill do?
[14:33] <Touhou11> lpapp: You might find this useful http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/docs/systemd-dependencies.html
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !info pkill
[14:33] <kivilahtio_> usr13: I "might" no use the correct terminology :)
[14:33] <usr13> Whiskers: kills a firefox, (if it is running already).
[14:33] <ELMEGA> urban terror node?
[14:33] <usr13> Whiskers: Do it a couple of times.
[14:34] <lpapp> Touhou11: looks good!
[14:34] <Whiskers> Oh, the problem is that it won't open from the terminal and I wanted to make sure I was not doing something wrong by typing in simply "firefox"
[14:34] <gt8ost4l> anybody know whats a good software to make debian bootable?
[14:34] <kivilahtio_> usr13: <IP_ADDRESS> creates a connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:22, the connection shouldn't be hampered by routes in <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[14:34] <Pici> Whiskers: read the manpage.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> gt8ost4l, ask the #debian channel
[14:35] <gt8ost4l> cfhowlett:i already tried and its useless
[14:35] <Whiskers> I forgot about that, thanks, I will look at it.
[14:35] <audictive> /"/script unload trigger.pl"
[14:35] <kivilahtio_> usr13: I mean eth1 had no gateway, but has a static IP. sshd -D is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:22 (<IP_ADDRESS>:22 should work as well)
[14:36] <usr13> kivilahtio_: I don't know, but you could use nmap from another PC and see where it is listening.
[14:36] <kivilahtio_> usr13: ok,
[14:38] <kivilahtio_> usr13: nmap gives me this                 Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn
[14:38] <usr13> kivilahtio_: nmap -p22 <IP_ADDRESS>   ?
[14:38] <kivilahtio_> usr13: nmap -Pn finds port 113 CLOSED as it always does
[14:38] <jaami> my simple question is how to move to a folder with cd that is shown only with ls -a
[14:39] <usr13> kivilahtio_: /sbin/ifconfig (on the host) (see what interfaces are really up).
[14:39] <jaami> sorry, my mistake, i got it fixed. thanks
[14:40] <grout> so i see that 14.04 now has mac versions of its images online, what do these images contain thats different?
[14:40] <kivilahtio_> usr13: ifconfig            eth1      UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[14:40] <kivilahtio_> usr13: ifup eth1       interface eth1 already configured
[14:41] <kivilahtio_> usr13: ssh connection worked fine when I had the eth1 have the default gatewar
[14:41] <devilmoldova> hello when i can find tutorial for setting up proxy server with authenttication in my server ? so my computer can connect internet through proxy...
[14:41] <kivilahtio_> usr13: now that I changed the default gateway to eth4, ssh is not working. So I know this is not a firewall issues
[14:41] <devilmoldova> i have centos
[14:42] <kivilahtio_> usr13: also on the host (<IP_ADDRESS>)  I can see packets from <IP_ADDRESS> to port 22
[14:42] <ELMEGA> hi
[14:43] <devilmoldova> anyone ?
[14:44] <bekks> devilmoldova: Ask the centos support.
[14:44] <Guest1234567> How do i unmark text in VIM?
[14:45] <devilmoldova> i cant join centos channel
[14:45] <Guest1234567> devilmoldova: register an account on freenode
[14:45] <Guest1234567> and login to
[14:45] <BillMcCormick>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a did not fix my problem
[14:45] <bekks> devilmoldova: Which doesnt make your issue an ubuntu issue ;)
[14:45] <Pici> !register > devilmoldova
[14:46] <Guest1234567> How do i unmark text in VIM, some things are highlighted in yellow
[14:46] <Seveas> Guest1234567: :set nohls
[14:46] <Guest1234567> thanks Seveas
[14:47] <geon> hi
[14:48] <geon> will nexus 4 be ubuntu touch development phone for quit a long time?????
[14:48] <usr13> kivilahtio_: You could try something like:  iptables -A INPUT -i eth4 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[14:48] <geon> will nexus 4 be ubuntu touch development phone for quit a long time?????
[14:48] <Guest1234567> geon: why dont you ask 20 times more, maybe you recieve your answer faster
[14:49] <kivilahtio_> usr13: no harm in trying :)
[14:49] <Jah> why u think only nexus is good for ubuntu touch
[14:49] <DJones> geon: If you join #ubuntu-touch the people there will probably be able to give the best answer
[14:49] <Jah> it sucks
[14:49] <geon> thanks DJones
[14:51] <Guest1234567> I want to backup the maildir from dovecot on my ubuntu machine, from my centos machine, would NFS or SSFS be better?
[14:51] <Guest1234567> SSHFS
[14:51] <kivilahtio_> usr13: Thank you for the suggestion, but my iptables are on default ACCEPT and this iptable rule didnt resolve the issue
[14:51] <bekks> Guest1234567: Doesnt matter, basically.
[14:51] <kivilahtio_> usr13: I am running Ubuntu12.04 on HP G08 rack server, maybe there is a hardware issue?
[14:52] <Guest1234567> bekks: NFS can lock a file/dir right?
[14:52] <kivilahtio_> usr13: I mean this what we are trying to achieve should be a no-brainer?
[14:52] <iptable> kivilahtio_, "iptables rule", not "iptable rule" :P
[14:52] <bekks> Guest1234567: Sure. Same as SSHFS.
[14:52] <iptable> kivilahtio_, what's the iptables problem?
[14:52] <kivilahtio_> usr13: listenint on ssh connections from non-gatewayed interface
[14:53] <kivilahtio_> iptable: wow, a big problem, and not just about iptables, also routeing tables and rules :)
[14:53] <iptable> mmm, my favourite.
[14:53] <kivilahtio_> iptable: currently I am trying to connect from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>:22 to establish an ssh connection
[14:54] <iptable> kivilahtio_, and that's ETH1, while ETH4 is default GW
[14:54] <iptable> kivilahtio_, just scrolled back
[14:54] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes
[14:54] <iptable> kivilahtio_, so when you connect from 193... to 192... do you get tcpdump on 192. machine showing a connection attempt?
[14:54] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes
[14:55] <iptable> kivilahtio_, what is 193? are you currently in THAT network?
[14:55] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes. That is my static IP
[14:55] <iptable> kivilahtio_, ok, so you trying to connect from one machine on your LAN to another machine on your LAN using the WAN IP, is that correct?
[14:56] <iptable> damn, I just realised I have cut myself while doing DIY. There's blood between the keys...
[14:56] <kivilahtio_> iptable: quite frankly I don't know the exact intranet architecture here
[14:56] <kivilahtio_> iptable: wow, don't bleed on me :)
[14:57] <kivilahtio_> iptable: I mean die on me ...
[14:57] <iptable> kivilahtio_, well, 193... is your WAN interface right? you are currently on the local network to which 193 routes, yes?
[14:57] <JohnCalvin> !ops
[14:57] <iptable> kivilahtio_, and from that network you are trying to ssh to the machine on the same LAN, but using a WAN IP for it?
[14:57] <JohnCalvin> !staff
[14:57] <JohnCalvin> !ops
[14:57] <kivilahtio_> iptable: my workstation IP is 193, 192 is on a different LAN
[14:57] <iptable> so your workstation has an external IP mapped to it?
[14:58] <kivilahtio_> iptable: they are separated by a firewall
[14:58] <kivilahtio_> iptable: nope
[14:58] <iptable> kivilahtio_, 193. is an external IP range
[14:58] <kivilahtio_> iptable: when I am connecting to 192 in the tcpdump there is 193 -> 192:22
[14:58] <kivilahtio_> iptable: so there is no NAT:ing the ssh connection
[14:59] <iptable> kivilahtio_, ok, is there a response to 193 at all?
[14:59] <kivilahtio_> nope
[14:59] <iptable> kivilahtio_, no, there is some weird natting by the looks of it. 192 is a private network IP, while 193 is public network IP. Your workstation has got an external IP, while your server has got internal IP
[15:00] <iptable> kivilahtio_, I would need to see the exact architecture to work this out, but my guess is that your router along the way has got issues with routing back and forth
[15:00] <kivilahtio_> iptable: like I wrote earlier, this worked just fine when eth1 had the default gateway, now it doesn't work when I switched default gateway to eth4
[15:00] <iptable> kivilahtio_, my guess would be that reverse NAT is not setup (or NAT loopback to be exact)
[15:00] <iptable> kivilahtio_, what is the IP of eth1?
[15:01] <kivilahtio_> iptable: hmm. you might be right. I have been trying for two weeks to get virtual ridges to separate NIC's :)
[15:01] <kivilahtio_> and not even this simple task works out
[15:01] <kivilahtio_> iptable: eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>  (ssh host)
[15:01] <kivilahtio_> iptable: eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> (ssh client)
[15:02] <iptable> kivilahtio_, wait you changed the default gateway?
[15:02] <iptable> kivilahtio_, way?
[15:02] <iptable> kivilahtio_, default gateway is only for connections without a route, i.e. for exaxmple new outbound connections.
[15:02] <iptable> kivilahtio_, eth4 is 10. IP?
[15:02] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes, and I suspect the gateway should have no effect here
[15:03] <kivilahtio_> iptable: eth4 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:03] <kivilahtio_> iptable but somehow the gateway makes all the difference here
[15:03] <iptable> kivilahtio_, basically you are trying to connect from outside the NAT. So NAT takes place. Looks like the router in place can route package to 10. and to 192. It also looks like it doesn't route packets back from 192. to the internet while it routes packets back from 10.
[15:04] <iptable> kivilahtio_, but if GW is eth4 GW, can you ssh to eth1 IP (192.)?
[15:04] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes I can ssh to eth1 IP
[15:04] <kivilahtio_> iptable: firewalls block <IP_ADDRESS>:22 (the current default gateway)
[15:05] <iptable> kivilahtio_, so it looks as if the router in place expects all packets to come back from eth1 or 10. address. That would be router configuration
[15:05] <iptable> kivilahtio_, kivilahtio_, so can't you set iptables rules on that machine to only accept SSH on 192. IP?
[15:05] <Terminal^> guys; do we have screenfetch.deb?
[15:05] <kivilahtio_> iptable: I mean I could ssh to eth1 when it was the default gateway
[15:05] <kivilahtio_> iptable: now I cannot as it no more is the default gateway
[15:05] <kivilahtio_> iptable: but I still get the tcp connection attempt visible in 192.
[15:06] <iptable> kivilahtio_, oh. so you want to ssh to 192 but the default GW to be 10. right, and when you had default route to be the 192. it worked.
[15:06] <iptable> kivilahtio_, give me output of ip route ls
[15:06] <kivilahtio_> iptable: yes :)
[15:06] <iptable> kivilahtio_, and GW IPs for eth1 and eth4
[15:06] <iptable> kivilahtio_, for ip route ls, use pastebin please
[15:07] <kivilahtio_> iptable: I need to switch the gateway to get ssh access to the server. I cannot copypaste from the virtualized iLO connection under winxp :)
[15:07] <kivilahtio_> iptable: I'll get you the logs asap
[15:08] <iptable> kivilahtio_, cool. I'll be out in 10 minutes for about 10 minutes, but then I'm back. I suspect you are just missing defined per-network routes
[15:08] <kivilahtio_> iptable: Great! Ill get the pastebin ready for you!
[15:09] <iptable> Terminal^, appears not
[15:10] <adam007> any tutorial setup proxy server in ubuntu server ? so i can put my proxy in my mozilla
[15:10] <iptable> Terminal^, screengetch is just a script, you can wget it. no need for deb package.
[15:18] <Vivekananda> is there a way to get the ccsm negative effect for a particular window without installing compiz/ccsm in unity. I had to format and reinstall 12.04 2-3 times the last time I fiddled with compiz and I dont wish to suffer again
[15:18] <Meerkat> are there any known common issues with SSD drives and Ubuntu that I should know before getting one?
[15:18] <ikonia> Meerkat: nope
[15:18] <Guest1234567> Meerkat: it might explode
[15:19] <Meerkat> any brands that explode less often?
[15:19] <gordonjcp> Meerkat: they're all about the same really
[15:19] <bekks> Meerkat: The smaller ones contain less explosives.
[15:20] <gordonjcp> Meerkat: I've had perfectly adequate results from a cheapy Sandisk 128G
[15:20] <Guest1234567> haha
[15:20] <gordonjcp> Meerkat: it was bought from the local asian computer shop / drug money laundry
[15:20] <gordonjcp> Meerkat: so if it fails in a big way they know they'll get it flung through their window
[15:24] <asad2005> sb clear
[15:24] <asad2005> I am getting 'net usershare' returned error 255 trying to share a folder is this a bug?
[15:25] <daftykins> gonna need a lot more info than that
[15:26] <castrona> is anyone familar running docker?
[15:27] <bekks> asad2005: when doing what exactly? "net" is a Windows command.
[15:29] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/net | bekks
[15:30] <theadmin> It's some samba thing
[15:30] <lebafar> Hello folks! I've set IPv4 to x.x.x.150 as a Manual Method in Wired/Network/System Settings and I restart the machine twice already but the address I got defined is like x.x.x.101. I already checked and there are no other machine with IP x.x.x.150. Why is that happening? Could someone help me please?
[15:30] <asad2005> bekks: by right clicking the folder and selecting local network share
[15:31] <bekks> asad2005: So did you try to mount your share manually?
[15:31] <hello123> what server channel?
[15:31] <hello123> ubuntuserver?
[15:31] <theadmin> hello123: #ubuntu-server
[15:31] <adam007> does there is seting guide for tinyproxy ?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !server
[15:32] <asad2005> bekks: I can not make the folder sharable how would i mount it
[15:32] <adam007> i want setup my server centos, so i can connect it rhough my web browser
[15:32] <iptable> kivilahtio_, back.seen my messages and link
[15:32] <iptable> kivilahtio_, ?
[15:32] <netameta__> Is there a way to stop putty from sessioning off ?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> adam007, !centos ?  not supported here -
[15:32] <gordonjcp> netameta__: keepalives
[15:33] <netameta__> ah crap from channel sorry
[15:33] <netameta__> Thanks goldonjcp
[15:33] <adam007> i cant join they banned me, i already register here..
[15:33] <bekks> asad2005: you dont "make a folder shareable", you have to configure your samba server. And "mount" is used for mounting filesystems and shares.
[15:33] <gordonjcp> netameta__: in "Connections" you'll see it lets you set an interval
[15:34] <BillMcCormick> My package manager is broken with dpkg: error processing puppetmaster-passenger (--remove):
[15:34] <netameta__> set it to 80000 :-)
[15:35] <BillMcCormick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7005586/
[15:37] <lebafar> Hello folks! I've set IPv4 to x.x.x.150 as a Manual Method in Wired/Network/System Settings and I restart the machine twice already but the address I got defined is like x.x.x.101. I already checked and there are no other machine with IP x.x.x.150. Why is that happening? Could someone help me please?
[15:38] <theadmin> BillMcCormick: Do: sudo dpkg --purge --force-all puppetmaster-passenger
[15:40] <BillMcCormick> did NOT work .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7005616/
[15:41] <BillMcCormick> It's like it looking for an apache config for a puppetmaster site
[15:42] <theadmin> Bah, this package is a mess. BillMcCormick, edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/puppetmaster-passenger.postrm and just replace the stuff there with something like "exit 0"
[15:42] <theadmin> BillMcCormick: Then try again
[15:46] <BillMcCormick> ok .. that did it ... thanks
[15:48] <BabaAisha> What is a good program for viewing AutoCad documents for GNU/Linux? I need to look at house plans
[15:51] <tlp> does anyone know how/where terminal colors are defined for the framebuffer console on Ubuntu with KMS? they've been very different for quite a few releases now.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> BabaAisha, search the software center for cad and/or autocad for options
[15:58] <Diegonat> hi guys... ages ago I saw a shell script that diveded the screen into two sections where on the top there was a kind of folder tree gui and at the bottom a normal bash shell. Do you have any idea what I am talking about?!
[15:58] <Terminal^_> hasti?
[15:58] <Diegonat> Terminal^, are you answering me?
[15:59] <Terminal^_> Diegonat: No m8 that was a mistake
[16:01] <Slart> Diegonat: sure it was a bash script and not just another terminal gui?
[16:02] <Diegonat> Slart, no tbh I cannot really remember
[16:02] <geirha> Diegonat: something like midnight commander (mc) ?
[16:02] <Diegonat>  i remember to be cool
[16:03] <Diegonat> geirha, yes it was it
[16:03] <Diegonat> =)
[16:04] <Diegonat> geirha, thank you so much
[16:04] <webfox_> what is the difference between network and gateway?
[16:05] <webfox_> which one would be my router?
[16:05] <bodhi_zazen> webfox_: they are usually related as your router helps manage both
[16:06] <bodhi_zazen> First typically your router manages your network via DHCP, assigning IP within a range, <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[16:06] <bodhi_zazen> Then, when you connect to the web it serves as your gateway (and typically firewall ans NAT as well)
[16:06] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: yes, I have my router ip, do I use it at network or gateway?
[16:06] <yacc> webfox_: the network "parameter" in ifconfig is a bitmask, which defines for your local PC which peers are contacted directly (if inside the LAN) and when the gateway parameter is used.
[16:06] <bodhi_zazen> what are you trying to do ?
[16:07] <doriano> doctor who
[16:07] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: set a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:07] <doriano> film
[16:08] <theadmin> !list | doriano
[16:08] <bodhi_zazen> Usually you set your router as the gateway
[16:08] <theadmin> ...err, that didn't work as intended xD
[16:08] <bodhi_zazen> then either dhcp or ip with netmask
[16:08] <leetdood> hi, can someone help me with my crontab? it cuts off at + for some reason
[16:08] <leetdood> its supposed to be 25 * * * * cp -u /home/moo/moo/`ls /home/moo/moo -1tr | grep db | tail -1` /home/moo/moo/backup-`date +%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M`
[16:09] <bodhi_zazen> netw2ork would be <IP_ADDRESS> + netmask
[16:09] <bodhi_zazen> see http://danielgibbs.co.uk/2012/06/fedora-17-set-static-ip-address/
[16:09] <leetdood> but for some reason crontab ends it at +
[16:09] <theadmin> leetdood: Complex commands may be best to be placed in a shellscript, and have cron run that script instead.
[16:09] <leetdood> do i just put it in a .sh file and run the .sh file
[16:09] <jdm> http://imgcandy.com/di/Z0JG/tmp.jpg
[16:09] <theadmin> leetdood: More or less, just make sure the first line of the file is #!/bin/bash
[16:10] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: I am following a tutorial and I am not sure which info I have to use : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9253159
[16:10] <theadmin> leetdood: And make it executable
[16:10] <leetdood> thank you, theadmin. that helps a lot
[16:10] <Slart> leetdood: I would put all that stuff in a file, yes.. makes it a lot easier to debug any errors
[16:10] <leetdood> thank you too Slart
[16:10] <bodhi_zazen> webfox_: http://faqintosh.com/risorse/en/guides/net/tcp/basic/
[16:12] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: if I follow the Network setting from Ubuntu Gateway would have my Router IP but then what IP I would use for network?
[16:14] <bodhi_zazen> webfox_: I do not think you are understanding what you are setting when you set "network" and "netmask" vs an ip address, see the link I gave you.
[16:15] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: the gateways is my the "base" IP for my router and the network is the "range" of IP it can assume?
[16:16] <doriano> come faccio a scaricare film
[16:16] <doriano> list!
[16:16] <Barcelona1937> amule
[16:16] <bodhi_zazen> why are you using "base" in quotes ? your gateway is your router which is a part of you network and identified by it's ip address
[16:17] <bodhi_zazen> You network is identified by network + netmask as in the link I gave
[16:19] <bodhi_zazen> Your router servers multiple functions and you need to understand those parts. One is a firewall (NAT), one is dhcp, and one is routing traffic
[16:19] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: if my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and netmask is <IP_ADDRESS> what can I use as network IP? <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:21] <thecodethinker> How do I install 32bit libraries?
[16:21] <thecodethinker> from apt
[16:21] <webfox_> bodhi_zazen: I am not using dhcp, just a static ip.
[16:21] <ikonia> thecodethinker: before you do that, I think you need to look at what you are doing and what you spefically need
[16:21] <thecodethinker> is it apt-get install <lib name>:i386?
[16:21] <llutz> thecodethinker: apt-get install libxxx:i386            if you already configured multiarch
[16:21] <ikonia> thecodethinker: setting up multilib can have real problems, and impact to your machine
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> webfox_: the network is <IP_ADDRESS> and the first node is <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:22] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I think I did that already. I have the 32bit mesa drivers installed
[16:22] <llutz> ActionParsnip: wrong
[16:22] <ikonia> thecodethinker: this isn't for steam is it by any chance.....
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> llutz: d'oh habit
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> webfox_: the network is <IP_ADDRESS> and the first node is <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:22] <thecodethinker> ikona: nope. I want to see if I can get libgluezilla working on wine by installing the 32bit libmono-webbrowser2.0-cli package
[16:23] <leetdood> thanks again Slart and theadmin! it works now
[16:23] <ikonia> thecodethinker: your box, so it's up to you, but this will burn you in the long run
[16:23] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I
[16:23] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I can always just reinstall linux ;)
[16:24] <ikonia> cool, ok, you're prepared for the possible worst
[16:24] <marlo_> i've been looking at my auth.log and have been finding hacking attempts on sshd... now suddenly my auth.log file is completely gone, what gives?
[16:24] <webfox_> ActionParsnip: so I am right, I can use <IP_ADDRESS> as network IP.
[16:24] <thecodethinker> ikonia: When I type in apt-get install libmono-webbrowser2.0-cli:i386 but it said no package was found :(
[16:24] <leetdood> hacker deleted it would be my guess, marlo_, but i have no idea
[16:24] <leetdood> dont listen to me
[16:24] <thecodethinker> Is there anywhere I could check if there is a 32bit version in the repo?
[16:24] <ikonia> thecodethinker: right, because they are not in the 64bit repos
[16:24] <webfox_> But somehow it is not working :P
[16:25] <ikonia> thecodethinker: I don't like the way ubuntu manages multi-lib which is adding an arch
[16:25] <thecodethinker> ikonia: oh.... I thought I had the 32bit ones...
[16:25] <marlo_> i'm not even sure how to tell if someone is in at this point, or through what hole they have access
[16:25] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I miss ia32-libs :'(
[16:25] <ikonia> thecodethinker: show me "uname -a" please
[16:25] <thecodethinker> Linux Snarks 3.11.0-15-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 9 18:17:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:25] <ikonia> thecodethinker: yeah, so thats 64bit,
[16:25] <ikonia> thecodethinker: so the repos will be 64bit hence no/limited 32bit packages in there
[16:25] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I know...
[16:26] <thecodethinker> ikonia: oh... how do I get the 32bit ones to show up? I did it with the mesa ones a while ago... I guess I forgot...
[16:26] <munzmania> hi! how can i install ubuntu on my mac air 2013 .... have any one tried that ? if so , did u face any troubles?
[16:26] <ikonia> thecodethinker: you have to add the arch
[16:26] <thecodethinker> ikonia: how?
[16:27] <ikonia> dpkg --add-arch or something like that, check the syntax, I don't have dpkg box to hand
[16:27] <thecodethinker> I did that already...
[16:27] <ikonia> doesn't look like it
[16:27] <ikonia> either that or the 32bit lib you want doesn't exist
[16:27] <thecodethinker> hmm....
[16:28] <thecodethinker> i have access to nethaxk-x11:i386
[16:28] <llutz> !info libmono-webbrowser2.0-cil | thecodethinker
[16:29] <llutz> thecodethinker: -cil not -cli
[16:29] <thecodethinker> llutz: I did use cil.... typo in irc :3
[16:30] <theadmin> Same on my system, no :i386 version of the package
[16:30] <thecodethinker> I guess it's only 64bit then
[16:30] <theadmin> Say, isn't Mono like Java? Like, not arch-dependent?
[16:31] <NeedeeUzr> Not sure of rules of engagement here. I am noob. Have added nignx ppa with current binaries an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx.
[16:33] <claude_> Hey everyone! I'm new here on this channel... new on Linux too, but I have some basic knowledge. I'd have a question for you...
[16:34] <zzxc> claude_: Shoot
[16:34] <thecodethinker> Well has anyone here had problems with libgluezilla?
[16:34] <claude_> It seems like this is a hard one as I did a lot of searches on forum about this :S
[16:35] <claude_> I'm using Lubuntu 12.04... so based on Ubuntu 12.04 if I understand... In the grub config file, I uncommented silent boot so I can see what is happening
[16:35] <Beldar> thecodethinker, Anyone does not work here state the issues in detail.
[16:35] <claude_> My computer hangs always at the same place from time to time
[16:35] <claude_> right after the creation of the swap file
[16:36] <Uberprinny> Somegone here good enough with apache2 ?!
[16:36] <claude_> so the last line looks like this:
[16:36] <Meerkat> Uberprinny, depends. What do you need help with?
[16:37] <NeedeeUzr> Not sure of rules of engagement here. I am noob. Have added nignx ppa with current binaries an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx.  Priority:-1 extents:1 accross:8388604K and the system hangs there
[16:37] <Beldar> Uberprinny, You can find out by stating the issues. ;)
[16:37] <NeedeeUzr> I did run apt-get update.
[16:38] <claude_> Weirdly... everytime I choose recovery mode, the system boots successfully all the time and never hangs
[16:38] <Uberprinny> But all i get is blank page with no source code, but simple php functions like echo or phpinfo works
[16:38] <NilsB> Hi, all, is there any webchat for #ubuntu ?
[16:38] <theadmin> NilsB: webchat.freenode.net exists
[16:39] <Beldar> !ot | NilsB
[16:39] <NilsB> ok, I try ...
[16:39] <NeedeeUzr> I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there.
[16:39] <Beldar> NilsB, This is support though if needed.
[16:40] <NeedeeUzr> The client isn't seeing the new ones, only the ones from the archive.ubuntu.com repos
[16:41] <NeedeeUzr> llutz, I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there.
[16:41] <Meerkat> Uberprinny, do you have a index.html or index.php file in your webroot?
[16:42] <NilsB> ok, I have now 2 connexion, one here as NilsB with a big screen an on on the sick computer with small screen as NilsFR13 on web chat, sorry I need both, the one on sick computer is to copy and past, here is to write
[16:42] <NilsB> the problem I have is I cannot update the computer, the systme says I need to dpkg --configure -a, but this stop before ending
[16:43] <NilsB> the last step where dpkg stop is :
[16:44] <NilsFR13> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.11.0-17-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-17-generic
[16:44] <Beldar> NilsB, Can you give us the up this command needed short history, IE a update interrupted....etc.
[16:44] <capella_> Hi, anyone use lenovo thinkpad T61?!
[16:44] <Beldar> up to*
[16:44] <claude_> Anybody has an idea about what I could do?
[16:45] <Beldar> NilsFR13, What release is this?
[16:45] <NilsB> Beldar, I do not anderstand your question
[16:45] <NilsB> release is 12.04 LTS
[16:45] <Beldar> NilsB, What ubuntu release is this?
[16:45] <NilsB> release is 12.04 LTS
[16:46] <Beldar> NilsB, That kernel would be part of a stack upgrade, were you just trying to install it?
[16:46] <zzxc_afk> Hey claude_, sorry about that I got sucked into a conversation here at work.
[16:46] <NilsB> the system hang on update of  3.11.0-17-generic
[16:46] <claude_> no problem... just waiting in the background to see if anyone could help :)
[16:46] <zzxc_afk> claude_: I don't really know much about configuing grub you may want to ask the poeple in #grub
[16:47] <claude_> I've worked hard to try to figure out by myself...
[16:47] <claude_> but the real problem is I don't understand why the system hangs after the addition of the swap file but it dosen't when I boot in recovery mode :O
[16:47] <Beldar> NilsB, try this command, sudo apt-get -f install
[16:48] <NilsB> I cannot do any apt-get, as apt-get tells me to run dpkg --configure -a and as dpkg cannot go till the end
[16:48] <NilsB> (sorry Beldar I have to rewrite the pseudo)
[16:49] <Beldar> NilsB, That command is for interrupted installs.
[16:49] <Beldar> or updates
[16:49] <NilsB> Beldar, well it looks like its the cas
[16:49] <NilsB> case
[16:50] <zzxc_afk> claude_: I'm not sure. How fair does it get when it hangs?
[16:50] <Beldar> NilsB, You mention a dpkg, but say this is a update, kinda confusing.
[16:50] <NilsB> Beldar, I had to interrupt an upgrade as the system did not do anything for a long time, top show the proc was "idle"
[16:51] <claude_> I think I would have to shoot a video...
[16:51] <zzxc_afk> claude_: Yeah that might be a pain.
[16:51] <Beldar> NilsB, That is important info that should be part of your posts to the channel to start with.
[16:51] <claude_> it is exactly after we see ''Adding 8388604K swap on /dev/sda1. Priority:-1 extents:1 accross:8388604K''
[16:51] <NilsB> Befdar, first I did an upgrade, which stopped without ending, then I stopped it by ^c, and problems comes
[16:52] <claude_> during the boot process
[16:52] <dosequis> hey all - i have a setup where I have a remote web server that is behind a nat. Is there a way to proxy requests to this server through a second, central server? How would I go about this? Thanks!
[16:52] <zzxc_afk> I take sda1 is the root?
[16:52] <Beldar> NilsB, Have you tried that command?
[16:52] <claude_> nop its the swap partition
[16:53] <zzxc_afk> Oh that might be you're problem
[16:53] <claude_> sda2 is the root one
[16:53] <NilsB> Beldar, this is a new install, all works well till an upgrade that did not end
[16:53] <zzxc_afk> is it mounting before sda2?
[16:53] <NilsB> Beldar, which command ?
[16:53] <claude_> I thought that by placing sd1 as swap first that this would be faster... since that the outter edge of a hard disk is faster
[16:53] <Beldar> NilsB, sudo apt-get -f install
[16:53] <NilsB> Beldar, the upgrade freeze on grub update
[16:54] <claude_> yes for example, if you go in gparted, you will see that the swap partition is totally at the left hand side
[16:54] <NilsB> Beldar, I try, but I think apt-get will send me back to dpkg --configure -a
[16:54] <claude_> I thought that the location of the swap partition didn't matter... it matters?
[16:54] <zzxc_afk> claude_: Physically its going to be negliable, its just placing it on the outside of the disk.
[16:54] <Beldar> NilsB, Anyway I have to go, try that command, others can help you, best of luck. ;)
[16:55] <zzxc_afk> claude_: swap doesn't matter that much if you have enough ram.
[16:55] <NeedeeUzr> Need help. Have added nignx ppa with current binaries to an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx. I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there as seen at /home/ubuntu/mirror/ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nginx/nginx_1.4.5.
[16:55] <NeedeeUzr> Unfortunately, the client machines are still only seeing the old nginx version whe running apt-cache show nginx.
[16:55] <zzxc_afk> claude_: its basically code storage for ram
[16:55] <claude_> yeah I have only 1.75 GB (250 MB for the on-board Nvidia graphic card), so I have a 8GB sda1 swap partition
[16:55] <Diegonat> guys.. do you know how to concatenate two tarballs where the second one you put it in a specific folder of the first one?
[16:55] <NilsB> Beldar, yes => apt-get asks me to dpkg --configure -a , which does not want to run till the end
[16:56] <zzxc_afk> claude_: mmmm alright fair enough.
[16:56] <claude_> but the weird thing is
[16:56] <claude_> if I boot in recovery mode
[16:56] <lepfaa> what are you talking about, bheya
[16:56] <claude_> then I hit simply "resume"... the boot process will NOT hang
[16:56] <claude_> I'm totally speechless
[16:56] <NilsB> Beldar, as we say in french, this is the snake that eats its tail
[16:56] <claude_> and if I boot normally, the computer hangs after the swap is added 4 out of 5 times
[16:56] <claude_> but somtimes it goes through
[16:57] <NilsB> Beldar, I cannot run any apt-get
[16:57] <zzxc_afk> So here is what I think the issue is:
[16:57] <zzxc_afk> Hmmm no that doesn't make sense actually.
[16:58] <bkfitz> Anyone know what "Oversee Turing v1.0.0" is?  Did a curl -I on a website and that was listed as the webserver
[16:58] <claude_> I know this is really weird
[16:58] <zzxc_afk> claude_: you should check to see if swapon is enabled when you're in recovery.
[16:58] <zzxc_afk> How is you're partition map set up?
[16:59] <claude_> May I go in private mode with you?
[16:59] <lepfaa> покушаем
[16:59] <zzxc_afk> sure, I'm heading out for lunch in a little as a heads up though.
[16:59] <capella_> is there an internet navigator on consoles?
[16:59] <claude_> ok me too :)
[17:00] <NeedeeUzr> Need help. Have added nignx ppa with current binaries to an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx. I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there as seen at /home/ubuntu/mirror/ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nginx/nginx_1.4.5.
[17:00] <NeedeeUzr> Unfortunately, the client machines are still only seeing the old nginx version whe running apt-cache show nginx.
[17:00] <NeedeeUzr> Any help is appreciated!
[17:01] <leetdood> thanks ya'll
[17:02] <NilsB> Then, no idea for this dpkg --configure -a that do not ending ?
[17:02] <tr3y> Anyone know how to fix the launcher if it has empty slots? I have 2 empty slots on it where I can't add anything and I don't know how to remove them.
[17:02] <NeedeeUzr> Seriously, am I doing something wrong that no one answers?
[17:02] <lepfaa> и надолго мы тут?
[17:03] <Guest32758> can someone help me? im trying to install ubuntu but it keeps telling me that swap failed to format
[17:04] <StrangeloveMD> Have you tried runing the formatting utillity again, and only reformatting the swap drive?
[17:05] <NilsB> Guest32758, swap cannot be formated, don't try
[17:05] <StrangeloveMD> NilsB:  Does he not mean the initial partitioning of a drive to include a swap partition?
[17:06] <BorisTheAnimal> hrm, my sudo says this: [sudo] password for myusername: sudo: myusername: command not found..
[17:06] <Guest32758> thats what it says when i try to install
[17:06] <lepfaa> htf the cracker's crack
[17:06] <NilsB> StangeloveMD, maybe ...
[17:06] <ikonia> BorisTheAnimal: what is the exact command you are using, and I mean "exact" command
[17:06] <aossi> is it possible to create an ubuntu 12.04 usb boot disk after going through nomodeset?
[17:07] <NeedeeUzr> Need help. Have added nignx ppa with current binaries to an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx. I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there as seen at /home/ubuntu/mirror/ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nginx/nginx_1.4.5.
[17:07] <NeedeeUzr> Unfortunately, the client machines are still only seeing the old nginx version whe running apt-cache show nginx.
[17:07] <NeedeeUzr> Is this question too complex?
[17:07] <lepfaa> yes or no
[17:07] <BorisTheAnimal> sudo command, trying to login in to my admin account on my ubuntu
[17:07] <NilsB> coming back to my issue, any idea about dpkg --configure -a does not ending
[17:07] <ikonia> but the bios normally honours what it says it's going to do, or has an option like press F12 to select boot device
[17:08] <ikonia> oops
[17:08] <ikonia> BorisTheAnimal: what is the exact command you are using, and I mean "exact" command
[17:08] <NilsB> BorisTheAnimal, are you sure your account is sudoers enable ?
[17:08] <mahmoud> ubuntu server vs. ubuntu desktop. what's the difference?
[17:08] <theadmin> mahmoud: Server doesn't have a GUI
[17:08] <mahmoud> ONLY that? how about software versions?
[17:08] <ikonia> mahmoud: intended use, default packages, some kenrel tweakss etc
[17:09] <mahmoud> will ubuntu server not allow me to install some sort of packages due to additional security restrictions that may forbid me from using cutting-edge software?
[17:09] <NilsB> mahmoud, not sure, but I think ubuntu server has root enable and no X
[17:09] <aossi> i tried upgrading to ubuntu 12.10 it did its thing and now when i boot i get the splash screen then pitch black. i did the nomodeset trick and am now at a terminal style login screen. from here how do i get wifi and create a boot image of 12.04 i have a usb drive to use.
[17:09] <theadmin> mahmoud: Eh, Ubuntu doesn't really do "cutting edge"
[17:10] <mahmoud> theadmin: i mean "even-less-cutting-edge"
[17:10] <theadmin> mahmoud: But if you're worried about that, just use the LTS release. Actually, on production servers, always use LTS, helps to avoid updating like crazy
[17:10] <ikonia> mahmoud: the repos are the same as the desktop
[17:10] <mahmoud> yeah
[17:10] <NilsB> mahmoud, if its an remote server, prefer Debian, if its a local server ubuntu server (without X) or desktop (with X)is fine
[17:11] <aossi> can some one help me figure this out?
[17:11] <NilsB> mahmoud, and maybe you will not have office tools on the server, maybe, I don't know, I user Debian for servers
[17:12] <theadmin> NilsB: Pretty much none of the Ubuntu desktop stuff (like LibreOffice, Firefox, and the actual GUI of course) is present in the server edition
[17:12] <theadmin> NilsB: So yeah, no "office tools" in the default install
[17:12] <theadmin> ...Unless you count, say, Nano as an office tool
[17:13] <StrangeloveMD> aossi:  Can you not startx into the gui?
[17:13] <aossi> idk how to startx
[17:13] <mahmoud> okay guys, you are nice. i opt for ubuntu server for my batch jobs
[17:13] <aossi> ive googled the heck out of it. and still nothing to get me to startx
[17:13] <StrangeloveMD> aossi:  When you launch into terminal, type "startx" and hit enter
[17:14] <aossi> nope it wont let me
[17:14] <StrangeloveMD> ...
[17:14] <NeedeeUzr> Can someone help me with a local ubuntu mirror?
[17:14] <StrangeloveMD> What does it do?
[17:15] <robertzaccour> NeedeeUzr: *bump
[17:15] <NilsB> theadmin, ok, thanks for the information
[17:15] <aossi> it said unable to connect to x server
[17:15] <StrangeloveMD> NeedeeUzr:  Whats the issue?
[17:16] <aossi> do i need internet to startx??
[17:16] <theadmin> aossi: Uh, no. But you need to have X installed, of course
[17:16] <StrangeloveMD> aossi:  Are you sure you installed Ubuntu Desktp, not Server?
[17:16] <Screwba> HAHAHHA...
[17:16] <StrangeloveMD> aossi:  theadmin is correct
[17:16] <Screwba> sounds like a server install to me
[17:16] <aossi> yea. i got the 12.10 upgrade from my update manager on 12.04
[17:17] <theadmin> Oh, errh. Yeah X broke during the Quantal upgrade for me, but I assumed that was due to the power failure -_-
[17:17] <StrangeloveMD> aossi: sudo apt-get install xorg openbox
[17:18] <StrangeloveMD> Oh, is this a known issue?
[17:18] <StrangeloveMD> (wtf' that's for xorg)
[17:18] <aossi> didnt work. unable to correct problems. you have held broken package
[17:18] <NeedeeUzr> robertzaccour, am I doing something wrong here
[17:19] <NilsB> so, not idea for dpkg --configure that do not ending, then, total reinstall I think
[17:19] <robertzaccour> i dunno
[17:20] <NeedeeUzr> StrangeloveMD,  Have added nignx ppa with current binaries to an apt-mirror. clients pointed at this mirror cannot see the newest version of Nginx. I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu precise main to the mirror.list and the mirror is grabbing the updated binaries from there as seen at /home/ubuntu/mirrorrobertzaccour/ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nginx
[17:20] <NeedeeUzr> /nginx_1.4.5. Unfortunately, the client machines are still only seeing the old nginx version whe running apt-cache show nginx
[17:20] <StrangeloveMD> aossi: See if this is helpful: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-server.html
[17:21] <aossi> k brb will try that
[17:21] <StrangeloveMD> NeedeeUzr:  That is beyond my knowledge to fix, other than making sure they have cleared cache, etc.
[17:22] <NeedeeUzr> StrangeloveMD, How would you clear the cache?
[17:22] <monkeyhat> what cache
[17:23] <StrangeloveMD> NeedeeUzr: I have no idea how the end user is acessing the mirror, it might not be relevent
[17:23] <theadmin> NeedeeUzr: You need to run "apt-get update" usually to refresh the package info and stuff
[17:23] <theadmin> NeedeeUzr: On the "client" machines, i.e. those which would be pulling packages in from your mirror
[17:23] <NeedeeUzr> Thanks, I've done all of that.
[17:24] <theadmin> As for cache, you can clear it with "apt-get clean" but that isn't going to fix anything
[17:24] <Pursche> Hey, I am a bit confused and I was hoping that someone in here could sort something up for me. I am an "happy" owner of an Acer Iconia W5, it is an x86 tablet/laptop hybrid that runs Windows 8. I was wondering what the touch support in Ubuntu is like.
[17:24] <NeedeeUzr> theadmin, I have done that. Thanks.
[17:24] <aossi> steangelovemd did that but sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop and it didnt work i think 12.10 broke bad...
[17:25] <NeedeeUzr> I think it may have to do with 2 different repos on the local mirror having that package. Don't know how to fix though.
[17:25] <theadmin> NeedeeUzr: Eh, APT is designed to always pull in the latest version
[17:25] <davido_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[17:26] <NeedeeUzr> yeah, and it has worked to custom repos I have enter before, but not for the nginx or percona repos. Don't know what's different.
[17:26] <Pursche> Davido_, isnt Ubuntu Touch aimed towards Android?
[17:27] <Pursche> I was in their IRC a couple of minutes ago and they told me they do not support x86 and that I should go here.
[17:27] <theadmin> Pursche: Yeah, ignore that link. I am not sure what the "touch" support is on the Desktop version
[17:27] <theadmin> Pursche: But in general, touch emulates mouse, so it should work fine. The Ubuntu UI seems quite touch-friendly
[17:27] <Pursche> Okay that's great, thank you. :)
[17:28] <aossi> ubuntu desktop wont install :(
[17:28] <aossi> i think imma have to make a hoot image?
[17:28] <theadmin> a what
[17:28] <nixnewbie> Morning folks. New here. I just installed 13.10 Desktop. It was working fine last night and I installed VMWare Workstation 10 on it, messed around a bit and went home. I cam back this morning and I can't click on most things on the desktop.
[17:28] <nixnewbie> It changes too
[17:28] <aossi> boot image*
[17:28]  * cfhowlett wondered what a "hoot image" would do ...
[17:29] <aossi> it was a typo
[17:29] <n000b> Where is ia32libs in ubuntu 13.10???
[17:29] <nixnewbie> For a bit I could click on the launcher icons. Now I can't clik on that, or anything else. It is just unresponsive to mouse clicks. I changed from my wireless Logitech to wired USB mouse/keyboard and changed USB ports. No difference.
[17:29] <aossi> sooo how do i get wifi through this terminal bullshit thing so i can make a boot image
[17:29] <n000b> i need 32bit compatibility on a x64 13.10 ubuntu !!!
[17:30] <aossi> nooob the ubutu website has that
[17:30] <theadmin> n000b: ia32-libs no longer exists, you can just install 32-bit versions of packages you want
[17:30] <theadmin> n000b: sudo apt-get install whatever:i386
[17:31] <n000b> theadmin well i need to install 32bit compatibility for a user (which will later intall additional 32 bit packages), so i need ia32-libs ... where can i get it from?
[17:31] <theadmin> n000b: You don't
[17:31] <theadmin> n000b: You just install the 32-bit package, APT handles the rest
[17:31] <n000b> so ubuntu no longer supports 32 bit compatibility then?
[17:32] <theadmin> n000b: It does, it's just implemented differently
[17:32] <theadmin> n000b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[17:32] <mnemon> n000b: apt will automatically fetch the required 32bit libs
[17:32] <n000b> theadmin i just run "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"... is that all i can do for 32bit compatibility preparation?
[17:33] <theadmin> n000b: You don't need to run that, it's enabled by default
[17:33] <theadmin> n000b: So you're pretty much set
[17:33] <n000b> theadmin, mnemon ok thanks guys
[17:35] <aossi> fudge it imma just boot image 12.04
[17:35] <claude_> theadmin, you seem to have some good knowledge I'd be tempted to enter in a private chat with you for my issue but I'll see what you'll say first :) I have an issue that is soooo hard to understand... I've got an awesome guy here that tried to help but that issue is still a mystery
[17:35] <aossi> thabk you guys for your help
[17:35] <aossi> thank
[17:35] <cfhowlett> aossi, note: new LTS ubuntu is 14.04 coming out in April
[17:36] <theadmin> claude_: Okay, well, I don't really know too much. Private chat is fine with me though
[17:36] <claude_> oh amazing... ok let's try it out
[17:36] <malgorath> I have 13.10 x64 been running fine for a while. was in the middle of an update and the update client crashed and the system froze. I did a reboot and now it will not allow me to type, move the mouse and it even says it can not connect to network on the graphical login window.  Any idea what to do to fix this?
[17:37] <claude_> I can repost my issue here for others to see...
[17:37] <claude_> In a nutshell...
[17:37] <claude_> 1- I boot in recovery mode then hit ."resume" and the system boots completely normally
[17:38] <claude_> 2- I boot normally.... then 4 times out of 5, the system hangs right after the swap partition is mounted
[17:38] <xa0s_> why am I unable to connect to sshserver of my box at home? the ping is working.
[17:38] <xa0s_> so where am i going wrong?
[17:38] <xa0s_> im not familiar with sshserver as i am with sshclient (to an extent)
[17:38] <malgorath> xa0s_: did you install openssh server?
[17:39] <thug-inc> hi cant some one helpme
[17:39] <thug-inc> can *
[17:39] <tyler_d> !help | thug-inc
[17:39] <xa0s_> yes
[17:39] <xa0s_> and it is up and running, malgorath
[17:40] <thug-inc> dose any one run spotify  ?
[17:40] <malgorath> xa0s_: do you have iptables running and setup correctly to allow access?
[17:40] <tyler_d> xa0s_: `netstat -antp | grep :22`
[17:40] <xa0s_> no, I don't malgorath
[17:40] <malgorath> xa0s_: I'd run what tyler_d said
[17:40] <tyler_d> xa0s_: sudo  tcpdump -nes0 -i <<ether device>> port 22
[17:40] <StrangeloveMD> thug-inc yes
[17:40] <thug-inc> i keep geting   invalid manifes
[17:41] <StrangeloveMD> thug-inc:  Havent had any issues.  What version are you on?
[17:41] <xa0s_> and, tyler_d: one of my 22 is established (to here, via irc) and the other two is in listen mode.
[17:42] <thug-inc> 13.10
[17:42] <xa0s_> tyler_d, ether device as in my router?
[17:42] <tyler_d> xa0s_: ether device as in your network card... ie. eth0
[17:42] <xa0s_> and how do i find th eip address of th eth0 ?
[17:42] <xa0s_> the
[17:42] <tyler_d> xa0s_: is it listening on all interfaces... ie. <IP_ADDRESS>:22 from the netstat command?
[17:43] <tyler_d> xa0s_: is it using eth0?
[17:43] <xa0s_> yes.. <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is in listen mode
[17:43] <tyler_d> xa0s_: is that how you have it connected to the network? via eth0?
[17:43] <xa0s_> hardwired, yes.
[17:43] <xa0s_> cat5
[17:43] <tyler_d> xa0s_: then it should be `tcpdump -nes0 -i eth0 port 22`
[17:44] <tyler_d> xa0s_: then try to ssh to the box..
[17:44] <BorisTheAnimal> my sudo is bonky
[17:44] <tyler_d> mine is wonky
[17:44] <tyler_d> sometimes konky
[17:44] <tyler_d> as in: alias wonky=sudo
[17:45] <xa0s_> uhm... im on trisquel tho it's a derivative of ubuntu
[17:45] <xa0s_> it says tcpdump not found?
[17:45] <xa0s_> which i find odd.
[17:45] <xa0s_> command not found, i mean.
[17:45] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, ask trisquel channel for support.
[17:45] <xa0s_> i did.
[17:45] <bekks> xa0s_: Please ask the trisquel support then, since it is an unsupported derivate.
[17:45] <BorisTheAnimal> well it asked for a password for my username but when I entered it said "sudo: myun: command not found"
[17:45] <tyler_d> xa0s_: so tcpdump is not installed... and ... what cfhowlett said
[17:46] <xa0s_> unsupported ?
[17:46] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, sorry.  as it's not ubuntu, no support here
[17:46] <xa0s_> blimey.
[17:46] <xa0s_> so what derivatives do you support ?
[17:46] <tyler_d> xa0s_: should have stuck with source mate
[17:46] <xa0s_> i'm considering ditching trisquel
[17:46] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, xubuntu/lubuntu/gnomeubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntustudio/edubuntu
[17:46] <malgorath> I have 13.10 x64 been running fine for a while. was in the middle of an update and the update client crashed and the system froze. I did a reboot and now it will not allow me to type, move the mouse and it even says it can not connect to network on the graphical login window.  Any idea what to do to fix this? My keyboard and mouse are completly frozen, but I have got it to boot fine into live DVD
[17:46] <xa0s_> tho it's nice to go "free"
[17:46] <tyler_d> xa0s_: what's the advantage of going with something otehr than "ubuntu"
[17:46]  * cfhowlett thinks "did I miss any?"
[17:47] <xa0s_> but... it's a real pain in the ass when it's not mainstream since im deaf and i use relay services for th edeaf... and adobe flash is not "free" is what killing the buzz.
[17:47] <xa0s_> thanks, cfhowlett
[17:47] <tyler_d> cfhowlett: more complete than any list I would have come up with
[17:47] <bekks> xa0s_: Adobe inst free, even for trisquel.
[17:47] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, can't relay services run on ubuntu?
[17:47] <xa0s_> adobe flash, that is.
[17:47] <cfhowlett> !flash
[17:47]  * tyler_d pulls out my shovel
[17:48] <xa0s_> well... i need that for the camera to work
[17:48] <xa0s_> and i dont have time to fiddle around
[17:48] <tmmunq> using google chrome is easiest
[17:48] <xa0s_> that i said "the hell with it" and install google chrome
[17:48] <xa0s_> cuz when i gotta make a phone call, i GOTTA make a phone call... it's not that practical to be deaf to just pick up the phone to make the call.
[17:48] <xa0s_> needed video for interpreter to see me and vice versa
[17:48] <bekks> xa0s_: Those reasons all apply to Ubuntu too.
[17:48] <xa0s_> so trisquel's stand is killing it for me, man.
[17:49] <tyler_d> xa0s_: !linphone
[17:49] <xa0s_> gnash - i couldn't get it to work
[17:49] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, do you have the restricted extras installed?  flash is included in that package
[17:49] <tyler_d> !linphone | xa0s_
[17:49] <xa0s_> it's already working fine on my other ubuntu box.
[17:49] <xa0s_> im just debating on whether if it's worth it to stand with the FSF and RMS's stand
[17:49] <xa0s_> and to be frank, it doesn't at the moment
[17:49] <xa0s_> nevertheless.. thanks for helping out, man.
[17:50] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, tough choices ...
[17:50] <xa0s_> Thanks everybody.
[17:50] <cfhowlett> xa0s_, best of luck
[17:50] <tyler_d> np, best of luck sir
[17:50] <xa0s_> cfhowlett... it's really no brainer because I gotta make a phone call when I gotta... so screw that b.s. the FSF/RMS has been espouting...
[17:50] <xa0s_> have good day, everybody
[17:51] <bekks> He'd better make his own choice, instead letting RMS decide for him.
[17:51] <tyler_d> bekks: it's hard when you feel strapped for time though... don't envy his position
[17:52] <bekks> tyler_d: I dont envy his position. I just commented on his position, of a free choice, that his choice isnt free, actually, since it isnt his choice, but the choice of RMS.
[17:52] <bekks> However, it gets offtopic.
[17:52] <tyler_d> right
[17:52] <monkeyhat> RMS?
[17:53] <BorisTheAnimal> how do I use the root account through terminal? I have tried typing sudo my user name and then entering my pass but it does not work
[17:53] <tyler_d> BorisTheAnimal: su -
[17:53] <tyler_d> the - is so you log the .profile for root
[17:53] <malgorath> I thought sudo -i was more 'secure'
[17:53] <BorisTheAnimal> su: Authentication failure
[17:53] <tyler_d> BorisTheAnimal: not the same thing as sudo though.
[17:53] <tyler_d> BorisTheAnimal: because sudo and su are not the same....
[17:53] <malgorath> BorisTheAnimal: use sudo -i and type your password
[17:54] <tyler_d> malgorath: that's not root though.... (or at least I dont think it is)
[17:54] <bekks> !root | BorisTheAnimal
[17:54] <BorisTheAnimal> oh no pass needed for that command
[17:55] <malgorath> also if you REALLY want to use su - you have to do sudo passwd root
[17:55] <Turn_Left> is it common to stick with 12.04 due to it being LTS even though it's outdated?
[17:55] <malgorath> Turn_Left: depends on what your doing, server dev stuff, probably.
[17:55] <bekks> Turn_Left: 12.04 isnt outdated. It receives updates and security fixes until 2017.
[17:55] <cfhowlett> Turn_Left, it's common and it's not outdated.
[17:55] <Turn_Left> oh i see
[17:56] <BorisTheAnimal> well I have a program that requires authentication..
[17:56] <Turn_Left> i read a site about updates and they hinted it being outdated... thanks
[17:56] <bekks> Turn_Left: Then dont read that again, since it is wrong, obviously.
[17:56] <malgorath> Turn_Left: its not 'outdated' but it does lag behind non-lts releases for stabilty sake
[17:57] <Turn_Left> ok bekks.. i'll always come here 1st
[17:57] <Turn_Left> oh i see malgorath
[17:57] <tyler_d> as your user, in a terminal type `sudo whoami` <--- say's I'm root.... how peculiar.
[17:58] <proteneer> i have nvidia drivers installed right now
[17:58] <malgorath> tyler_d: thats why sudo -i (sudo interactive mode) works for doing everything as if you were root, sudo -i then type whoami it will say root
[17:58] <proteneer> whats the proper way to update them
[17:58] <proteneer> currently 319.xx
[17:58] <tyler_d> malgorath: how is that different than sudo o-s
[17:59] <tyler_d> sudo -s I mean
[17:59] <ecdhe> If I run a bash script, I see the output of the commands.  Is there any way I can also get the commands themselves to be printed?
[17:59] <malgorath> tyler_d: idk, never used -s but I used -i when I'm doing things like server installs to allow me to not have to sudo apt-get install a few million times
[17:59] <tyler_d> malgorath: exactry, I use -s for the same thing :p
[18:00] <malgorath> saving 5 keystrokes per line over 30 or 40 lines
[18:01] <ecdhe> For instance, a script with the command " echo hello " should print:
[18:01] <ecdhe> echo hello
[18:01] <ecdhe> hello
[18:01] <tyler_d> malgorath: sudo -i <-- interactive, spawns with root variables
[18:01] <theadmin> ecdhe: bash -v script
[18:01] <tyler_d> malgorath: sudo -s <-- spawns a new shell instance as root
[18:01] <ecdhe> Thanks theadmin!
[18:02] <theadmin> ecdhe: (replace "script" with the filename of the script)
[18:02] <tyler_d> theadmin: is it bash or sh?
[18:02] <theadmin> tyler_d: Depends on what kind of script it is, eh
[18:02] <tyler_d> indeed ;)
[18:07] <john____> hey guys, i installed minimal ubuntu, with awesome window manager. which display manager should i prefer ?
[18:07] <bekks> john____: The one you want. It is your decision, basically, not ours.
[18:08] <john____> okay, thanks for the fast reply. lightdm want to install ~600 packets. why so much ?
[18:08] <john____> or: should i install 600 packets for it ?
[18:09] <Guest32758> the creation of swap space in partition  #5 of scsi2 failed. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[18:09] <bekks> john____: Wh are you concerned about the number of packages being installed?
[18:09] <bekks> john____: Why does the number matter?
[18:09] <trism> john____: it will probably install less if you specify a greeter, like lightdm-gtk-greeter, it's probably trying to install unity-greeter
[18:10] <trism> john____: so: sudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter;
[18:11] <Guest32758> the creation of swap space in partition  #5 of scsi2 failed. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[18:11] <elspuddy> hello :)
[18:11] <bekks> Guest32758: that happens when doing what?
[18:12] <Guest32758> bekks: trying to install ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <phil42_> guest:  how much memory do you have?
[18:15] <phil42_> guest:  if you have lots of memory you can run without swap
[18:16] <bekks> phil42_: whis is not true if he is going to use suspend.
[18:18] <phil42_> guest:  are  you installing on a laptop? or might you want to put your computer in sleep mode for another reason?  if not, and you have lots of memory you can run without swap
[18:19] <NilsB> I unetbootin Ubuntu 12.04 and when boot the system tells me there is no kernel image ? any idea ?
[18:19] <phil42_> which is what i do
[18:19] <phil42_> i have 8G memory which is much more than sufficient
[18:20] <NilsB> do i need to unetbootin an ISO with a Linux which have the same kernel of the iso ?
[18:20] <vexati0n> so is there a way to install the real Nvidia drivers WITHOUT it ALWAYS going to "low graphics mode" afterward?
[18:20] <vexati0n> after 10 years, has Ubuntu still not figured this out?
[18:20] <phil42_> i use nvidia factory driver and it doesn't happen to me
[18:20] <Actionparsnip> Vex
[18:21] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: never had an issue
[18:21] <vexati0n> i have tried with xorg-edgers ppa, the nvidia-current package, the pointy clicky GUI method from Software/Updates...
[18:21] <vexati0n> regardless of how I do it, it _always_ goes "durr, ubuntu cannot configured itself on account of herpderp"
[18:21] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: install nvida-current.  Instate stored xorg.conf file. killall -u $USER
[18:21] <phil42_> but i have other problems with nvidia factory drivers
[18:22] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: tried: sudo nvida-xconfig
[18:22] <Aossi> StrangeloveMD: hey so i installed 12.04 and i got wonky graphics right now im using try ubuntu. but the problem im having is my graphics drivers. im using a nvidia card and well it wont let me install the drivers keeps saying something about handling a broken package
[18:22] <vexati0n> yeah tried that.
[18:22] <vexati0n> before and after reboot. it generates the xorg.conf file, and it's still broken.
[18:22] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: tried playing with the xorg.conf file?
[18:23] <vexati0n> Yes, because this is 1994 and I should have to do that.
[18:23] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: it isn't automatically generated unless you run the nvida-xconfig command
[18:23] <Guest32758> the creation of swap space in partition  #5 of scsi2 failed. i get this error while trying to install ubuntu 12.04
[18:23] <vexati0n> Actionparsnip: I DID run nvidia-xconfig. It created the file, the file doesn't work.
[18:23] <john____> gdm or lightdm? is that significant ?
[18:23] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: your screen isn't reporting edid or its doing it badly
[18:24] <vexati0n> one more time in 21st century end-user language please
[18:24] <vexati0n> :P
[18:24] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: so to accommodate your screen by making the file
[18:25] <karstensrage> im running 11.04 and am going to upgrade soon but i cant right now, im getting errors trying to uninstall apache2
[18:25] <john____> bekks: gdm or lightdm? does it matter for the system ?
[18:25] <Actionparsnip> karstensrage: the community doesn't support eol releases
[18:25] <karstensrage> its forcing me to install php5-cgi,  and its failing to authenicate then failing to get it
[18:26] <vexati0n> Actionparsnip: that means nothing to me. What do I do? nvidia-xconfig created the file, and the file doesn't work. How do I make it work?
[18:26] <Aossi> StrangeloveMD: you there bro?
[18:26] <Actionparsnip> karstensrage: do a clean install of Precise and restore your web data from backup
[18:26] <karstensrage> i cant do that on this machine yet
[18:27] <Aossi> can some one help me? i get a graphical situation where the graphics are set to a monitor bigger than the one i have when i get to the log in screen. is there a way i can fix this with the terminal?
[18:27] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: you open the file using: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,then find out options that may make it work and play
[18:28] <Aossi> can some one help me? i get a graphical situation where the graphics are set to a monitor bigger than the one i have when i get to the log in screen. is there a way i can fix this with the terminal?
[18:28] <Actionparsnip> vexati0n: does the system use a switching GPU?
[18:29] <phil42_> Guest32758:  your problem is complex.   do you actually need swap?   (i don't)
[18:29] <Actionparsnip> Aossi: you can use an xrandr command to set the res of the login screen
[18:29] <Aossi> how do i do that?
[18:29] <Aossi> im in grub right now.
[18:29] <Aossi> Actionparsnip: ^
[18:30] <Actionparsnip> Aossi: you need to make a bash script
[18:30] <Actionparsnip> Aossi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[18:31] <Aossi> Actionparsnip: ty bro ill let you know if i need further help
[18:31] <Actionparsnip> Aossi : you can do it in tty1 if you like (and can use terminal based text editors)
[18:32] <Actionparsnip> Aossi: I had to do the same.  Hence quickness
[18:32] <Aossi> Actionparsnip: can i do it in grub? or nomodeset?
[18:33] <Aossi> Actionparsnip: im at login screen.....
[18:33] <Actionparsnip> Aossi: put the script in /usr/bin for neatness and add it to your backups in case you need to reinstall