[21:48] <abhishek_> i am trying to install ktorrent ,,,i have created a directory named software and have unzipped the content of the ktorrent folder...now i don.t know how to proceed with the installation...plz help
[21:48] <younder> sorry, not true
[21:48] <ikonia> younder: yes - very true
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> zzz2009: or loop mount (forgot that)
[21:49] <zzz2009> i tied symlink but I get erros on boot
[21:49] <jrib> abhishek_: that isn't how you install software in ubuntu!  See ubottu:
[21:49] <zzz2009> loop mount ?
[21:49] <jrib> !software > abhishek_
[21:49] <younder> I am sitting with the damn machine infront of me, and I am telling you that what you are saing is bollucks
[21:49] <Guest64559> anyone??
[21:49] <jrib> !who | younder
[21:49] <zzz2009> plse point me at documentation
[21:49] <newbie> hello i have a question EnvyNG doesnt detect my readon video card ?
[21:50] <ikonia> younder: that's all very well. But the only reason the recovery console would prompt you for a password is if you set a password
[21:50] <ikonia> younder: I suggest you try booting into single user mode instead
[21:50] <younder> ikonia: that sounds like a plan, thanks
[21:50] <sparr> I would like to make a video DVD from a lot of smaller video files.  What software can handle that?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> newbie: i wouldnt suggest using envy
[21:50] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: do you need it to be less ? you could put their priority down (see man nice), but over a gig for ff is really too much,  also you can set down the reload in background of ff, that will save memory, but that amount is really strange, any apps combined? apparmor or something ?
[21:51] <newbie> what should i use
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> newbie: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:51] <jrib> zzz2009: you mount block devices, not directories
[21:51] <jrib> zzz2009: can you describe what you are trying to accomplish?
[21:51] <younder> sorry iif I'm a bit steaming..
[21:52] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> ?
[21:52] <Whitor> DasEi, tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:8080            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      4285/crack-attack
[21:52] <abel_> buenas noches
[21:52] <DasEi> Whitor: netstat I assume, so open
[21:52] <chess_> My sound on my netbook doesn't sound, however I see its active... Whats wrong?
[21:53] <zzz2009> I have a 1.2tb /data 'partions
[21:53] <zzz2009> sorry finger trouble
[21:53] <Viking667> Quick question. I inherited a kubuntu (which has since had a couple of dist-upgrades) and machine, how easy would it be to convert that to xubuntu instead? Machine has 600MHz CPU and 384Mb memory.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> newbie: its a terminal command, you can copy / paste to the terminal an copy from it too
[21:54] <jrib> Viking667: just install xubuntu-desktop and choose xfce as your window manager at the login window
[21:54] <DasEi> Viking667: very easy,
[21:54] <trece8> viking: easier to just install xubuntu
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[21:54] <trece8> :P
[21:54] <Viking667> Possibly what's holding it up the most is that the PCI bus is only 66MHz.
[21:54] <Viking667> ah, right.
[21:54] <soley> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i thought
[21:54] <fbdystang> whats the difference between ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu??
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> jrib: he has apps, just wants the desktop which xfce4 will sort nicely
[21:54] <trece8> I'd install crunchbang anyway, viking667
[21:55] <soley> ubuntu - gnome -- kubuntu - KDE -- Xubuntu - XFCE
[21:55] <zzz2009> I have a 1.2tb '/data' partion that i would like to use for /var & /home without using lvm, I want to split /home off so that reinstall etc, will not erase data, and putting /var there gives it room to expand
[21:55] <DasEi> Viking667: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: lxde is much lighter for low end systems
[21:55] <jrib> ActionParsnip: up to him I guess, but xubuntu provides lighter apps than kde :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: why tyhe whole desktop, why not use the gnome apps and just use the xfce desktop, less bloat
[21:55] <trece8> fbdystang, in using resources, that means: kubuntu > ubuntu > xubuntu > lubuntu (in resources for working)
[21:55] <DasEi> Viking667: but for so low specs, I 'd suggest use the minimal-netinstaller of 9.04 , then use a light desktop, like action mentioned or icewm
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> jrib: true, just makes a lot of duplicate apps
[21:56] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I dont think so
[21:56] <fbdystang> trece8: so if I have a nice new rig i should probably run kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[21:56] <newbie> ActionParsnip  here is it  ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[21:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I trying to figure it out do you think I could have a bad ram mod?
[21:57] <jrib> fbdystang: depends whether you prefer gnome or kde really... that's subjective...
[21:57] <d1gital> hello all.   does evolution have an auto-response (vacation etc.) feature?  if not, how can i accomplish this?
[21:57] <trece8> fbdystang, I'd go for the lightest distro anyway... it's just a matter of how flashy you'd like it to be.... search screenshots in google, you'll see what I mean
[21:58] <newbie> ActionParsnip: hello
[21:58] <apparle> trece8: I first used linux with KDE and am in love with it
[21:58] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: i have no specific idea, ram can be checked by memtest, other issues look through the files in /var/log  (syslog,kernelog, )  and look at dmesg.txt after doing  a  dmesg > dmesg.txt
[21:58] <apparle> trece8: sorry
[21:58] <trece8> apparle, I use crunchbang and I love it to death... the other extreme isn't it?
[21:58] <apparle> fbdystang: I first used linux with KDE and am in love with it
[21:59] <apparle> !info crunchbang
[21:59] <apparle> trece8: I dunno about crunchbang what is it
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> newbie: great let me websearch
[21:59] <fbdystang> jrib: I have used both kde and gnome. I don't really tell the difference. What are the benefits of each. I do embedded system design.
[21:59] <zzz2009> bye
[22:00] <newbie> ok thanks
[22:00] <trece8> apparle, fbdystang, take a look http://df.uba.ar/~andres/crunchbang.png
[22:00] <jrib> fbdystang: just use what you like best.  KDE tends to be more configurable, GNOME tries to follow a set of guidelines and keep things easy to use
[22:00] <bucky> d1gital, make sure you enable that for any mailing lists so they get a bounce from every email you recieve while your're away
[22:01] <trece8> it's a ubuntu-based distribution first oriented for the Eee... but it rocks, simple and well-thought. Cool simple interface, great keyboard shortcuts, and the dmenu, which rocks
[22:01] <jammeh> hi, i am trying to install 9.04 server onto a viglen mpc-l - have jumped a few hoops so far but stuck atm because the partitioner has a blank line where i guess the "partition me" option should be
[22:01] <popey> jammeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViglenMPC
[22:01] <popey> jammeh: see "known problems"
[22:01] <fbdystang> trece8: thats cool. is that kubuntu? with kde?
[22:01] <trece8> no, that's crunchbang, it uses OPENBOX
[22:02] <soley> crunchbang = <3
[22:02] <d1gital> bucky: lol. its not for my main email; no mailing lists there. this does not help me accomplish the task though.
[22:02] <coldflame23> anyone tryed beta?
[22:02] <trece8> kde is the other extreme: http://www.petesodyssey.org/files/kde4screenshot11.png
[22:02] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[22:03] <DasEi> fbdystang: http://kde.org/screenshots/
[22:03] <trece8> just search screenshots and in youtube, but keep in mind: more effects: more resources to use on that effects
[22:03] <jammeh> Popey, i don't think it's those issues, i have got past the acpi and pnp bits
[22:03] <popey> jammeh: no, the pata_cs5535 is the issue where it cant find the disk
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> newbie: did you say x1200?
[22:03] <newbie> yep
[22:03] <popey> jammeh: bug 318805 is what you're seeing
[22:03] <newbie> ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[22:03] <jammeh> ahh, ok
[22:03] <jammeh> i will go read more, ta
[22:04] <apparle> trece8: that KDE screen shot is not good at all.............. you should see the latest KDE4.3
[22:04] <popey> no problem jammeh, i filed that bug, and you're the second today to ask about it :)
[22:04] <chess_> hi, my netbook has the sound through the headphone but now I want it to go by the front boxes? How to do this,,
[22:04] <jammeh> i had thought from http://appleby.is-a-geek.net/mpcl/index.html that if i was installing jaunty i would have been ok :(
[22:04] <barqs> Does anyone know if Gnome-look.org is down?
[22:04] <popey> jammeh: he links to the bug at the bottom :)
[22:05] <VCoolio> barqs: seems like it, give it a minute
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> newbie: have yuo checked in: System->Hardware drivers
[22:05] <apparle> DasEi: the screenshots you suggest are old.................
[22:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi,
[22:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> System Information for wagnix-desktop: CPU: GenuineIntel
[22:05] <newbie> where is that
[22:05] <fbdystang> so, If i understand right, kubuntu uses kde, and ubuntu uses gnome. and both uses the same resources. is that right?
[22:05] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:05] <DasEi> fbdystang: yes
[22:05] <IdleOne> fbdystang: yes
[22:06] <chess_> How to switch headphone sound to the front speakers of my netbook?
[22:06] <jammeh> popey: but also says the Jaunty kernel has all the required drivers?
[22:06] <trece8> apparle, ok... but as I remember that, it has all the things: round corners, big icons, big menu bars, lighting effects, and opacity
[22:06] <fbdystang> haha, thanks that is very helpful
[22:06] <Umeaboy> I upgraded to 9.10 & the Self-test program says that I have sector-errors. Any way to fix them?
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  Umeaboy
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: the latest one does, but not the one thats on the original jaunty cd
[22:06] <trece8> fbdystang, no, KDE is heavier on resources than Gnome
[22:06] <jammeh> anyhow, i will move on from that and wonder what my best install option is to work around it?
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: good luck :)
[22:06] <chess_> How to switch headphone sound to the front speakers of my netbook?
[22:06] <DasEi> !desktop | fbdystang
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: i explained on the wiki page how to work around it
[22:07] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Yeah, but do I have to worry about the error?=
[22:07] <popey> jammeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViglenMPC starting at "start the alternate..."
[22:07] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: you should ask in there, that's offtopic for in here
[22:07] <barqs> VCoolio: Thank you. I was curious if it was just me or  not lol.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> newbie: in the system -> prefs or system -> administration menu
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: then again if your on about memtest
[22:08] <apparle> trece8: Now there is a lot of transperency and font can be decreased along with icons
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: I guess it's basically the same in all the releases that have had it
[22:08] <matrix^m> hi
[22:08] <fbdystang> why did you put an ! in front of everything? does that do something in chat?
[22:08] <VampireLove> Where can I downlad the oficial windows 7 .iso ( the one that microsoft will releace to the public)
[22:08] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: #ubuntu+1 does work.
[22:08] <amerinese> What's a good racing game for ubuntu?
[22:08] <jammeh> popey: aaahhhhhh, blimey
[22:08] <matrix^m> is it possible to know when a particular software was installed on ubuntu system?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> amerinese: there are a few reasonble ones in the repo
[22:08] <Umeaboy> amerinese: Look at packages.ubuntu.com
[22:08] <ismael_> hi
[22:08] <DasEi>  fbdystang: it triggers the channel bot, like :
[22:08] <DasEi> !brain
[22:08] <jetscreamer> amerinese: torcs is ok
[22:08] <newbie> ActionParsnip:  it doesn't show me anything there i went to ati website i beleave it was a 1250xpress
[22:08] <jammeh> i could have sworn i'd been there, but then saw your update timestamp! thanks for the info
[22:09] <amerinese> Cool...
[22:09] <jammeh> i will give that a whirl
[22:09] <popey> :)
[22:09] <ismael_> any idea on volume functions keys not workin on xubuntu
[22:09] <fbdystang> DasEi: wow, that is cool
[22:10] <rxd> what will be the size of ubuntu say if one just want to have X running without applications
[22:10] <apparle> trece8: though I have to agree crunchbang seems cool
[22:10]  * VCoolio is off to try torcs :P
[22:11] <DasEi> ismael_: you can try to get them via keyboardsetup if the acpi didn't auto-worked, but first be sure your s-card is recognized properly
[22:11] <trece8> apparle, dmenu is great, you type alt-f3 and searches for commands and such. No round corners, etc
[22:11] <trece8> try it
[22:11] <dooglus> where can I find a karmic beta cd image torrent please?
[22:11] <sebsebseb> dooglus: #ubuntu+1 is currently the Karmic channel
[22:11] <VampireLove> where can I find a oficial window 7 torrent?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> newbie: looks like you will need to use the open driver
[22:11] <Umeaboy> VampireLove: Wrong channel.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !windows | VampireLove
[22:11] <wolvesdread> Xming on XP Pro, X11 forwarding working, gnome-terminal from ubuntu for instance comes right up on Xming..  how to launch complete gnome desktop on XP?  thx.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !ot | VampireLove
[22:11] <ismael_> ll try that
[22:12] <newbie> whats an open driver
[22:12] <younder> I recommend to all to try the python 2.6 implementation. 3.1 isn't quite ready for show yet. It breaks most libs
[22:12] <ismael_> works fine on gnome though
[22:12] <sebsebseb> newbie: you mean an open source driver?
[22:12] <Umeaboy> VampireLove: You can also use Virtualbox to install Windows.
[22:12] <newbie> yes
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you can use vnc, its a bit clunky, what do you want to achieve no the ubuntu desktop?
[22:12] <sebsebseb> newbie: a driver that has the source code available to the general public :)
[22:12] <DasEi> dooglus: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha6#Download%20Alpha%206
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> newbie: theres the radeon driver and the ati driver both are open source
[22:13] <sebsebseb> newbie: so  different operating systems can support it properly and that
[22:13] <sebsebseb> newbie: or whatever
[22:13] <newbie> have a link ?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> DasEi: the beta is out now
[22:13] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: There's noone in #ubuntu+1
[22:13] <newbie> or a download page
[22:13] <younder> nvidea drivers arn't public but the do work
[22:13] <younder> they
[22:13] <DasEi> sebsebseb: ah, but the the update will result in same anyway
[22:13] <dooglus> DasEi: thanks, but that's an alpha.  I see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/beta/ has the beta images.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> newbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1231030
[22:14] <wolvesdread> ActionParsnip: can't I do it with Xming..  I just want to redirect gdm to Xming remote Xserver.  can be done?
[22:14] <fbdystang> this is just a test for the ubutto !nvidia
[22:14] <ikonia> fbdystang: ubottu works fine
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: yes there is, you joined wrongly I guess
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dooglus: it's in the topic for #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <Guest57594> I can't update to beta... I'm still alpha...
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dooglus: by the looks of it
[22:14] <Guest57594> help
[22:14] <DasEi> fbdystang: first in line, irc -command
[22:14] <fbdystang> ikonia: yea but i don't know how to use it
[22:14] <ikonia> Guest57594: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <fbdystang> ahh
[22:14] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Isn't it on this server?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: if you are ssh'd into the server and have xming you can run    nautilus and see the desktop
[22:14] <fbdystang> !nvidia
[22:15] <ikonia> !ubottu > fbdystang
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy:   try this  /join #ubuntu+1  or click on a link for it
[22:15] <younder> NVIDEA drivers for Linux are pretty good..
[22:15] <sander__> Hello. I have an annoying problem with Vimperator. When you use ":o something" it will use the default search engine (google) to search for it. But on Ubuntu, if the search term starts with "ubuntu" it doesn't go to google but to the ubuntu site. It's not a vimperator problem because this does not happen on my debian machine (same version of firefox and vimperator). any ideas?
[22:15] <mako-dono> rxd: it depends on what else you want on the system..  I'm not really sure about ubuntu, but it should be around 200-300mb
[22:15] <younder> I have no complaints
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you will have a more responsive system if you just run the apps you need from terminal
[22:15] <telmich> good evening!
[22:15] <fbdystang> ikonia: yea that's where I am looking, i just wanted to try it
[22:16] <karnal> hi
[22:16] <telmich> I'm planning to add ubuntu support to cinit (i.e. a full init system migration) and search for some people who may be interested in helping: http://www.nico.schottelius.org/blog/migrate-ubuntu-to-cinit/
[22:16] <younder> What would piss me off if if they didn't provide them. The fact that their spec changes often enough for them not to make the interface opensource is a diffrent matter
[22:16] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: That worked.
[22:17] <ikonia> younder: can you please control your language a little please.
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: yes  I saw you in there, and np
[22:17] <Umeaboy> Thanks.
[22:17] <younder> ikonia: ? piss is to harsh for you
[22:18] <ikonia> younder: it's a bit uncalled for
[22:18] <wolvesdread> ActionParsnip: So that gave me the desktop, but...  maybe desktop is the wrong word.  I'd like to get the loginscreen and then all of gnome in a window on XP
[22:18] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you can vnc to a gdm screen, its a bit pointless though as you can login with ssh and then run the apps you want
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: vnc is also unsecure so access over wan is not advised
[22:20] <jefinc> is there an AutoCAD type program for linux?
[22:20] <Scunizi> jefinc: yep.. open synaptic and search for CAD
[22:20] <sebsebseb> jefinc: not sure, but I expect there are AutoCAD alternatives out there
[22:21] <gyroscope> QCad
[22:21] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:21] <dethaddr> i just installed a graphix card and ran !envyng. and im having some visual issues
[22:21] <jefinc> hey look at that I already have QCAD installed :)
[22:21] <ikonia> dethaddr: envyng isn't really supported
[22:21] <ikonia> !envyng > dethaddr
[22:22] <gyroscope> when open it :)
[22:22] <DasEi> dethaddr: more specific ?
[22:23] <dethaddr>  ikonia: im running a pny geforce fx5500. on an old dell
[22:26] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:27] <dethaddr> !BinaryDriver
[22:27] <younder> ikonia: I used to be special forces I guess my language can be a bit rough.. sorry
[22:28] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu
[22:28] <ikonia> younder: not at all, no problem
[22:29] <shoss> Hello, how do i identify the parent of a zombie process and how can i terminate the zombie process? does a zombie even have a pid?
[22:29] <Trizicus> I am in 64-bit ubuntu and installed 32 bit firefox (works great). I made a symlink on my desktop to the 32 bit version however the icon that is used is a shell script icon. How can I change this?
[22:29] <aaron_> can anyone help me on a hardware issue? ( i know this isnt the #hardware channel but no one there is really responding) its about installing a new power supply, PM me if you can
[22:29] <ikonia> Trizicus: why did you install a 32bit firefox ?
[22:29] <Trizicus> because 64 bit has problems with java
[22:29] <LjL> shoss: you might not always be able to remove a zombie process at all
[22:29] <masterghost> al guien abla español
[22:30] <Scunizi> dethaddr: your card is supported by the drivers available in synaptic.. you should do a full update and then search synaptic for nvidia.. you'll see several there.. the right option might even be available in System>Admin>Hardware drivers.. You'll have to uninstall envyng though
[22:30] <Trizicus> those problems are gone in 32 bit so........
[22:30] <ikonia> !es > masterghost
[22:30] <shoss> LjL: reboot won't work?
[22:30] <LjL> shoss: well of course reboot will do it.
[22:30] <shoss> LjL: logout and back in?
[22:30] <mercutio22> Hello, I just upgraded to karmic on my netbook
[22:30] <ikonia> !9.10 > mercutio22
[22:31] <mercutio22> I don't see the new UNR interface, how come?
[22:31] <dethaddr> how do i uninstal envy
[22:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: as I understood you, the driver installed fine but now you have problems with settings ?!
[22:31] <LjL> shoss: probably not. it depends on why the process is a zombie - it's usually waiting (sometimes forever) on some I/O resource
[22:31] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  LjL  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:31] <LjL> nudlah: hi
[22:31] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu and my systems lags too much
[22:31] <rooftops> is there a thread to help me with setting up game servers?
[22:31] <shoss> LjL: anyway to identify the zombie's host and try to terminate that host?
[22:31] <lePti> hello everyone
[22:32] <Scunizi> rooftops: check in #linux
[22:32] <LjL> shoss: what do you mean by host?
[22:32] <sled> hello
[22:32] <shoss> LjL: parent process
[22:32] <nudlah> hi
[22:32] <sled> I ran update-manager -d and I want to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 beta
[22:32] <htorres11393> i can't drag and drop on my desktop
[22:32] <sled> but it tells me it's alpha
[22:32] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  sled  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:32] <dethaddr>  DasEi: yes. everything is choppy.
[22:32] <nudlah> where there from??
[22:32] <ikonia> !9.10 > sled
[22:32] <LjL> shoss: the zombie may not die even if you kill the parent process
[22:32] <htorres11393> like i can't drag anything from the menu to anywhere else
[22:32] <LjL> nudlah: use english in this channel please.
[22:32] <sled> thx!
[22:32] <Scunizi> sled: that's 'cause it is.. right now
[22:32] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  Scunizi  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <nudlah> ok
[22:33] <amerinese> !trophy
[22:33] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> DecoyWolf holds the fishing record when they caught a 83kg Scuba Diver
[22:33] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> jem holds the hunting record when they bagged a 71kg Boo Boo Bear
[22:33] <DasEi> dethaddr: so it wnet not fine; can you call envy again to uninstall the driver or is it too choppy ?
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  DasEi  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33]  * Scunizi thinks we got extra bots in the channel
[22:33] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a way to mount an hdd from ubuntu livecd?
[22:33] <htorres11393> maybe
[22:33] <DasEi> nudlah : bored ?
[22:33] <LjL> nudlah, please, stop that, whatever its saying
[22:33] <shoss> LjL: does having a zombie process on system effect in anyway on the system load or does it have any negative effects such as resource consumption?
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  shoss  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <Trizicus> I am in 64-bit ubuntu and installed 32 bit firefox (works great). I made a symlink on my desktop to the 32 bit version however the icon that is used is a shell script icon. How can I change this?
[22:33] <htorres11393> gotcha open up a terminal in the live cd
[22:33] <htorres11393> and mount it from there
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  htorres11393  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <dethaddr> ubottu: how do i uninstall envyng?
[22:34] <ikonia> nudlah: english please
[22:34] <LjL> nudlah: top that.
[22:34] <DasEi> dethaddr: so it went not fine; can you call envy again to uninstall the driver or is it too choppy ?
[22:34] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu and my system lags too much
[22:34] <te> So, not only did my ubuntu die, which looked suspiciously like a rm -rf, it is not even recognized as an ext3 partition anymore
[22:34] <LjL> shoss: no, not really, it's basically as if it didn't exst. the only thing is that if the process is zombied because of being stuck on accessing a resource, well, that resource may stay unavailable
[22:35] <te> Does anyone have any idea what could possibly cause a partition type to be screwed up?
[22:35] <shoss> LjL: thank you
[22:35] <te> can rm -rf / even do that?
[22:35] <LjL> te: no
[22:35] <htorres11393> te: no it can't
[22:35] <masterghost> help
[22:35] <te> friggen weird man
[22:35] <te> this disk is fine
[22:35] <te> i just ran diagnostics on it
[22:35] <sled> uhm what could be the reason that my system freezes from time to time? I can't even restart X using ctrl + alt + backspace
[22:35] <htorres11393> did the diagnostics check the mbr?
[22:35] <LjL> te: running dd may cause that, not rm.
[22:35] <ikonia> !dontzap > sled
[22:35] <ikonia> sled: 9.10 support in #ubuntu+1 as you've been told
[22:36] <sled> I'm talking about 9.04
[22:36] <sled> :)
[22:36] <DasEi> dethaddr: ??
[22:36] <te> LjL: interesting
[22:36] <jonsol_> are you using ext4?
[22:36] <ChogyDan> sled: it is now SysRq+k
[22:36] <te> htorres11393: i dont know if it did or not
[22:36] <ikonia> sled: you where talking about 9.10 a minute ago
[22:36] <dethaddr> DasEi: no its not to choppy for regualr use only when i try and run a movie, and when i use wine fullscreen is not stable. its almost laggish
[22:36] <sled> I installed the dontzap thing
[22:36] <jado> sled: can you ctrl+alt+suppr in normal time?
[22:36] <htorres11393> te: check the mbr
[22:36] <sled> ikonia, I wanted to upgrade to fix the problem
[22:37] <sled> jado: yes I can restart X using the combination normally
[22:37] <g0tcha> does ubuntu livecd auto detect the harddrive in the machine?
[22:37] <DasEi> dethaddr: k, call envy again to uninstall the driver before removing itself
[22:37] <dethaddr> DasEi: how do i do that?
[22:37] <sled> but when my system freezes it won't work, and the num lock LED starts to blink when my system freezes
[22:37] <aaron_> can anyone help me on a hardware issue? ( i know this isnt the #hardware channel but no one there is really responding) its about installing a new power supply, PM me if you can
[22:37] <sled> but my laptop is almost new, so I don't think it's a HW problem
[22:38] <ikonia> aaron_: please don't ask in here if you know it's the wrong channel
[22:38] <sebsebseb> sled: upgrading to Karmic before the final,  may result in you getting other problems
[22:38] <DasEi> dethaddr: via terminal or via your apps > systemtools
[22:38] <keith_> I'm having trouble getting my nvidia drivers to work on my 9800GT card, can someone help me?
[22:38] <thiebaude> keith_, did you install the drivers?
[22:38] <aaron_> thanks for being totally unhelpful, ikonia.
[22:38] <dethaddr> yea i know how to run term. but what do i type in there to call upon envvy?
[22:39] <keith_> i did but they don't appear to work
[22:39] <ikonia> aaron_: thanks for not obeying the channel rules - please try to respect them
[22:39] <thiebaude> keith_, System-Aministration-hardware drivers
[22:39] <keith_> they don't appear in hardware drivers
[22:39] <dethaddr> !envyng
[22:39] <DasEi> aaron_: I#m in #hardware
[22:39] <keith_> that doesn't work for me either, it won't run
[22:40] <thiebaude> keith_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[22:40] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo envyng-gtk
[22:40] <bucky> aaron_ me next.. can i help?
[22:40] <dethaddr> DasEi: cmd not found
[22:41] <keith_> i'm getting error messages when i try to install the nvidia-settings program
[22:41] <keith_> should i post here or take it to pm?
[22:41] <thiebaude> keith_, here, so ppl can try to help
[22:41] <htorres11393> this may be off topic but i'm here already and you guys seem to know so how do i pm in xchat?
[22:41] <keith_> oh, nvm
[22:41] <thiebaude> ok
[22:41] <keith_> synaptic was running
[22:42] <keith_> right click on the username
[22:42] <htorres11393> then what?
[22:42] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo envyng -k
[22:42] <keith_> open dialog window
[22:42] <htorres11393> ok
[22:42] <htorres11393> thanks man
[22:43] <DasEi> dethaddr: uninstall the selected driver
[22:43] <bucky> aaron_ did you plug a 4 pin connector from you PS into an eight pin on you motherboard?
[22:44] <Knifeyspooney> What does it mean when a program is in "complain mode" on Apparmor? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/plain/ . Should ntpd be in complain mode or can I remove it?
[22:44] <bucky> aaron_ does you vid card take an extra power source?
[22:44] <Knifeyspooney> woops wrong link: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/
[22:45] <ikonia> bucky: he left a while ago
[22:45] <keith_> so the computer i'm on is not acknowledging i have the drivers installed, the nvidia installation says it is, and says its sucessful, but it won't run
[22:45] <ryanprior> Hello there. I can use Audacity to record using my headset microphone, but Skype doesn't hear anything from it. What can I do to get Skype working?
[22:45] <thiebaude> keith_, you have to save it as root
[22:45] <keith_> i'm not positive but i think the nvidia kernel could have something to do with it
[22:45] <keith_> how do i go about saving it?
[22:45] <optimizer> anyone know of a good laser mouse that works on glass?
[22:45] <keith_> clear glass?
[22:46] <bucky> ikonia, he gets a refund!
[22:46] <thiebaude> keith_, gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:46] <metalf8801> why don't you put a mouse pad on top of the glass?
[22:46] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, complain mode is what your wondering about?
[22:46] <metalf8801> the wrist support ones are good
[22:46] <eduardocorreia3> #ubuntu-br
[22:47] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: Yes, it comes up at boot and brings me out of bootsplash to show me that warning
[22:47] <ryanprior> I can use Audacity to record using my headset microphone, but Skype doesn't hear anything from it. What can I do to get Skype working?
[22:47] <keith_> i get this message when i attempt to run nvidia-settings :You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. , then when i go to nvidia-xconfig i get : You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:48] <keith_> sry 2nd msg wrong
[22:48] <DasEi> dethaddr: well, that card sure is good for tv/movies,  but still no gamer-card in commonsense
[22:48] <keith_> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[22:48] <keith_> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[22:48] <keith_>                   Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver
[22:48] <keith_>                   line.
[22:48] <keith_> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[22:48] <FloodBot1> keith_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <keith_> keith@keith-desktop:~$ gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:48] <Scunizi> keith_: go to System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see if there is an nvidia driver in there that you need to put a "tic" mark next to.
[22:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: even movies are choppy. and in theory im only playing diablo II
[22:49] <ChogyDan> keith_: run nvidia-config
[22:49] <aBTaNa> how to update packages
[22:49] <DasEi> dethaddr: so envy removed ?  sudo synaptic              then
[22:49] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, what app is in complain mode?
[22:49] <keith_> no drivers for gfx card appear in hardware settings
[22:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: i just installed ubuntu last night on this pc.
[22:50] <VCoolio> aBTaNa: what you want: synaptic, update-manager; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:50] <dethaddr> DasEi:yes removed.
[22:50] <keith_> i'll just gather all the relevant info i have and post a link
[22:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: ah,moment
[22:50] <Scunizi> keith_: did you look..? is there a driver there that needs activating?
[22:50] <Petein> howcome and with the ubuntu update there is not actual update of firefox to firefox 3.5?
[22:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: before synaptic, do a : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:50] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: that pastebin I pasted ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/ ) shows that /usr/sbin/ntpd is in complain mode. That is the network time sync service right?
[22:50] <DasEi> !firefox-3.5
[22:50] <Scunizi> !ff35 > Petein
[22:51] <keith_> there aren't any drivers there to be activated
[22:51] <DasEi> Petein
[22:51] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney,  AppArmor profiles have two modes of execution:
[22:51] <stlsaint>     *
[22:51] <stlsaint>       Complaining/Learning: profile violations are permitted and logged. Useful for testing and developing new profiles.
[22:51] <stlsaint>     *
[22:51] <stlsaint>       Enforced/Confined: enforces profile policy as well as logging the violation.
[22:51] <FloodBot1> stlsaint: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, thats from ubuntu docs on apparmor
[22:52] <Kefka> OMG SOLERANT-DC WTF!!!
[22:52] <Petein> Scunizi: why is that?
[22:52] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: So is NTP supposed to be in complain mode, or can it be removed?
[22:52] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, complain mode can be used for debugging
[22:52] <Knifeyspooney> a.k.a. put into 'normal' mode (I don't know much about apparmor)
[22:52] <VCoolio> Petein: these kind of upgrades are considered sort of 'big', so ubuntu doesn't add them because it's not tested enough etc.; you can install it side by side with ff 3.1 though
[22:52] <Petein> Scunizi: im apt get installing it
[22:52] <Scunizi> Petein: that works.. just a different package.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !language |  Kefka
[22:52] <Kefka> I thought about this... as an everyone type command or something
[22:53] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, see here.... https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/apparmor.html
[22:53] <mgv1> do you neet pdf download on ubuntu?
[22:53] <dethaddr> DasEi: so after trhe update. whats the next command?
[22:53] <Scunizi> mgv1: ?  what do you mean?
[22:53] <Eric_xtc> Hello?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !pdf |  mgv1
[22:54] <sebsebseb> mgv1: nothing for opening PDF's  installed by default I think
[22:54] <sebsebseb> mgv1: acstusaully there  might be
[22:54] <Chousuke> isn't evince installed by default?
[22:54] <MenZa> sebsebseb: evince is installed by default.
[22:54] <Eric_xtc> Hello anybody?
[22:54] <thiebaude> !evince
[22:54] <DasEi> dethaddr: you have a new kernel installed (linux-image...) , then got to reboot : sudo reboot
[22:54] <sebsebseb> MenZa: ok
[22:54] <sebsebseb> MenZa: ty  I guess
[22:54] <coldflame23> !gnome
[22:54] <mgv1> Scunizi, in windows downloading pdf can make the computer freeze
[22:54] <fccf> !hi | Eric_xtc
[22:54] <MenZa> Scunizi: That's because Adobe Reader is horrible.
[22:55] <coldflame23> !cowsay
[22:55] <mgv1> Scunizi, ubuntu have pdf opener - not a very good one but still nice
[22:55] <MenZa> coldflame23: Please don't do that.
[22:55] <MenZa> mgv1: evince exceeds adobe reader in viewing quality.
[22:55] <thiebaude> mgv1, pdf isn't installed by default in windows
[22:55] <Scunizi> mgv1: pdf's are natively viewable in ububuntu.. you should be able to just double click the file and it will open
[22:55] <MenZa> nor does it have any useless bloat.
[22:55] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: I still don't fully understand what AppArmor is.. is it a debugging program? I'm using this as a desktop, i'm not developing Ubuntu
[22:55] <seidos> anyone installed rtorrent?
[22:55] <keith_> here is my problem, with some of the errors i have: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1277880
[22:55] <Scunizi> mgv1: there's others.. xpdf etc.. search synaptic for other options
[22:56] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, apparmor is a security module used to control what apps are allowed to do and not do...
[22:56]  * thiebaude evince is excellent
[22:56] <mgv1> Scunizi, im talking about the firefox extention - does it requierd to prevent freezings?
[22:56] <Eric_xtc> Hey im new to [K]Ubuntu can anybody help please?
[22:56] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, protects you from an attacker trying to use a exploit in a app to do malicious activity...apparmor uses type enforcment
[22:56] <Eric_xtc> PM me
[22:56] <dethaddr> DasEi: install completed
[22:56] <jrib> !ask | Eric_xtc
[22:57] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, sort of like RBAC but uses types instead...
[22:57] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo reboot,  cya soon ;-)
[22:57] <thiebaude> Eric_xtc, what is your question to the channel?
[22:57] <barqs> Howcome, when I install emerald, then install a emerald theme, replace window decoration with emerald --replace and run emerald --replace. the window border doesn't change
[22:57] <dethaddr> DasEi: ok. brb
[22:57] <Eric_xtc> How do you set up themes form Gnome-look.org? I got emerald installed and got the theme in a .emerald format what do i do?
[22:57] <Scunizi> mgv1: I have no idea
[22:58] <pukeko> im dd-ing the OS partition of my workstation to another drive, which i want to put in another box, what do i need to watch out for regarding GRUB ?
[22:58] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: open emerald theme manager, install the theme with that; than enable emerald as window decorator with "emerald --replace"
[22:59] <Eric_xtc> what do you mean emerald -- replace?
[22:59] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: run that in the "alt+F2" window or in a terminal
[23:00] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: also add it in compiz' window decorations plugin as a command for window decorator, otherwise next time you login you won't have borders
[23:00] <barqs> can anyone help me with this?
[23:00] <Scunizi> keith_: the first time is always the hardest :)... you'll need to install build-essential.. then you need to use synaptic and search for "nvidia".. uninstall all the preinstalled ubuntu nvidia bits.. restart gdm.. drop to a shell with CTRL+ALT+F2 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. then navigate to your nvidia driver and install.. next sudo reboot now to restart the system.
[23:00] <Amaranth> Why are you manually installing the nvidia driver?
[23:01] <Scunizi> bug fixes?
[23:01] <Eric_xtc> vcoolio: pm me i don't get how to do this im like TOTALLY NEW to this
[23:01] <Scunizi> speed
[23:01] <keith_> thanks scunizi
[23:01] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Do you know for a fact it fixes a bug he is having?
[23:01] <Eric_xtc> i got emerald themer and compiz open but idk what to do im like mixed up
[23:01] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Because that's most likely going to break the next time his Xorg, mesa, or kernel is updated.
[23:01] <Scunizi> Amaranth: he has no driver available for his card and needs the latest version.
[23:02] <Amaranth> keith_: there is a better way
[23:02] <keith_> ok
[23:02] <Amaranth> !envy | keith_
[23:02] <Scunizi> Amaranth: oh yea.. it will break (attn: keith).. and he'll have to reinstall the driver at that point.. that the pain you pay to play with the binary driver
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: You don't have that pain with envy, it sets up the driver just like the package would so upgrades don't break it
[23:03] <Scunizi> Amaranth: he's been the envy route with no joy.. it's also not supported..
[23:03] <Scunizi> !envy > Amaranth
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Not supported but not going to break
[23:03] <stlsaint> !envy
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Why did you send me something I just gave to keith_? I know what it says.
[23:03] <Scunizi> keith_: installing dkms might solve the "reinstall" issue with the binary driver..
[23:04] <dethaddr> back
[23:04] <keith_> alright, i'm gonna try it
[23:04] <Amaranth> Scunizi: The guy that works on envy also maintains Xorg for Ubuntu so...
[23:04] <barqs> Can someone help me with emerald theme manager?
[23:04] <Scunizi> Amaranth: so.....  He's already tried it and it didn't work.
[23:05] <Amaranth> !doesn't work
[23:05]  * Amaranth loves that one
[23:05] <thiebaude> haha
[23:05] <Scunizi> Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else..
[23:05] <sebsebseb> !love
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Amaranth: I like that one :)
[23:05] <Amaranth> sebsebseb: Funny that, I added both of them...
[23:05] <Amaranth> Anyway...
[23:05] <barqs> Can someone tell me why when I install an emerald theme it doesn't change the window borders?
[23:05] <bucky> my ubuntu doesn't work.. i want a refund
[23:05] <barqs> it seems to have no effect
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Amaranth: yeah !work is a great one
[23:06] <dethaddr> DasEi: ok so im back. what is the next step?
[23:06] <chris_> hey on my desktop on xubuntu 8.04, the taskbar with the menu options disappeared, how can i get it back
[23:06] <Varth> Has anyone managed to get multi-touch working on the Lenovo S10 trackpad under Ubuntu? I'm at a loss as to where to start...
[23:06] <Amaranth> barqs: You have to switch your decorator to emerald
[23:06] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo synaptic
[23:06] <Amaranth> barqs: You'll have to do it on every login
[23:06] <Amaranth> Varth: We don't have multitouch support yet
[23:07] <barqs> Amaranth: I ran emerald --replace but it doesn't work
[23:07] <Amaranth> Varth: Even once we have support for it (probably Ubuntu 10.10) apps need to be modified to use it
[23:07] <barqs> Amaranth: I also changed window decoration command in compiz to emerald --replace but it still does not work?
[23:07] <Varth> Amaranth: Ah, I see. I just really want two-finger scroll... ;_;
[23:07] <Amaranth> barqs: That second part is a known bug I'm not too interested in fixing
[23:08] <Amaranth> Varth: That part we might be able to make work. It works for macbooks
[23:09] <DasEi> search nvidia
[23:09] <Amaranth> Varth: you have to put this in your xorg.conf: Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
[23:09] <creative_> wow .. a lot of members !!
[23:09] <Amaranth> creative_: in about 3 weeks we'll have at least 400 more :)
[23:10] <dethaddr> DasEi: yea now what do i grab from synapsys?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> creative_: nearly 1500 people in here earlier
[23:10] <Varth> Amaranth: Then I'm assuming I have to restart X, right?
[23:10] <Amaranth> Varth: yep
[23:10] <creative_> Amaranth : wow !! Great ..!!
[23:10] <DasEi> dethaddr: see the 173 ond 180 ?
[23:10] <Amaranth> Varth: logging out will do that
[23:10] <Varth> Amaranth: Alright. Back in a sec.
[23:11] <d1scodustin> Ubuntu question: Is there anyway I can increase the speed of my internet via Ubuntu?
[23:11] <creative_> OK , C ya
[23:11] <DasEi> dethaddr: choose the 173
[23:11] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: No, your connection is controlled by your ISP
[23:11] <d1scodustin> ok :(
[23:11] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: You could get Opera 10 which has a "speed boost" mode for websites
[23:12] <d1scodustin> no thanks, lol. i'm content with firefox.
[23:12] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: But if your connection is faster than 1mbit it'll actually slow it down
[23:12] <DasEi> ** that would increase slow connections only
[23:12] <d1scodustin> firefox will?
[23:12] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: No, he was talking about Opera 10
[23:12] <d1scodustin> oh
[23:13] <DasEi> dethaddr: 173 installed ?
[23:13] <d1scodustin> I thought he was implying that Firefox actually slows your connection down if your connection is faster than 1mb.
[23:13] <Petein> whats wrong with this class: http://codepad.org/2FSAWdW0 ?
[23:13] <keith_> well, envy didn't work
[23:13] <dethaddr> DasEi: i just.. found it. i got distracted by roomates...
[23:13] <RegressLess> I deactivated "show desktop" in nautalis and can't find it again to fix it. Can someone help?
[23:13] <FinnTux> so karmic is supposed to support root on iscsi? just downloaded the beta and booted a diskless machine with it but no iscsi. is there any special requirements?
[23:14] <thiebaude> !9.10
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  FinnTux
[23:14] <FinnTux> ok, thanks
[23:14] <sebsebseb> FinnTux: np
[23:15] <TechN9ne> has there been any updates on getting ipod touch to work in ubuntu without VB,Dual boot or SSH?
[23:15] <d1scodustin> How can I get the most out of my connection in Ubuntu?
[23:15] <thiebaude> !ipod
[23:16] <dethaddr> DasEi: installed
[23:16] <sadrolla> i can not use my web cam : ls usb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:16] <Amaranth> TechN9ne: Yes, the 10.04 release of Ubuntu will at least have support for syncing contacts, calendars, and photos from it
[23:16] <MK13> i would like to start programming from ubuntu, but i want to be able to run the program debugged like visual studio does (to help against corrupting memory when I am off while using pointers) is there a way to do this in ubuntu?
[23:16] <DasEi> dethaddr: so again : /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:16] <Amaranth> TechN9ne: Everything else is still impossible
[23:17] <Dylan_> resisting urge to grab the new beta
[23:17] <RegressLess> I deactivated "show desktop" in nautalis and can't find it again to fix it. Can someone help?
[23:17] <sadrolla> i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:17] <safruhani> hi, i've 8 part of a video, how can i merge them?
[23:17] <grow1er> hey, what do you guys use to edit id3 tags?
[23:18] <michael_> hello
[23:18] <barqers> Amaranth: Sorry the internet cut out. Do you know why the emerald theme manager isn't working? alt+f2 and then emerald --replace doesn't work!
[23:18] <michael_> hello
[23:18] <bucky> olleh
[23:18] <Amaranth> safruhani: mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o final.avi 1.avi 2.avi 3.avi 4.avi 5.avi 6.avi 7.avi 8.avi
[23:18] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:18] <dethaddr> DasEi: fail
[23:18] <Amaranth> barqers: No idea, try #compiz
[23:19] <safruhani> wonderful Amaranth thank you
[23:19] <DasEi> dethaddr: what kind of monitor do you use ?
[23:19] <Eric_xtc> how do you run xgl on compiz on kde?
[23:19] <dethaddr> A Dell
[23:19] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:20] <Guest33105> hi
[23:20] <mark___> barqers: Install fusion-icon  it will make your life easier.  You can go into emerald theme manager and CCSM, swicth between compiz and metacity and change themes all from this program (start it to put an icon nr your clock on a default ubuntu install)
[23:20] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: did you read this? ^ ^ ^
[23:21] <maxflax> Where is the networkmanager config file at?
[23:21] <MTec007> Hello all, I'm looking for a bit of help with wifi. I have wifi working fine most of the time using ndiswrapper with but heres where it gets a bit thick.. It seems like when ever I have a lot of traffic in and out the wifi freezes up, while it does not disconnect, I can't do anything online until I disable networking, enable it, and reconnect to my WLAN.
[23:21] <Eric_xtc> no
[23:21] <Eric_xtc> lol
[23:21] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: keep it in mind for if you've fixed the xgl thing
[23:21] <barqers> mark___
[23:21] <thiebaude> mark___, i got that fusion-icon and when i click on it nothing happens
[23:21] <barqers> mark___: How do I use this? Thanks for the info!
[23:21] <VCoolio> thiebaude: right click
[23:22] <mark___> no icon by the clock? right click on it
[23:22] <thiebaude> VCoolio, thanks
[23:22] <thiebaude> VCoolio, ok i see
[23:22] <dethaddr> DasEi: like a 16" maybe. would that matter?
[23:22] <mark___> MTec007: have you tried changing channels?
[23:23] <MTec007> mark___,  Yes I've tried 6 10 and 11
[23:23] <fuminori> Has anyone else had problems installing the Karmic beta? I get "Cannot read from boot CD" when selecting install
[23:23] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:23] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  fuminori
[23:24] <fuminori> ty
[23:24] <sebsebseb> fuminori: np
[23:24] <mark___> MTec007, I had something like this and it was the USB power level on the port.  I put it through a powered hub and it was better
[23:24] <trece8> do anyone know where can I get some wiki page at wiki.linuxmusicians.com ?
[23:24] <barqers> mark___: I don't get an icon by the clock, what do I do? :S
[23:24] <MTec007> mark___, Do you think it could be just my router? I didn't have this issue with *other* nonfree OS'es
[23:24] <DasEi> maybe, get : http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-xconfig/nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz
[23:24] <trece8> Tried the wayback machine, but it doesn't have the page filed
[23:24] <MTec007> mark___, well I'm using a PCMCIA card
[23:25] <mark___> go to Application > System tools and it should be there
[23:25] <DasEi> dethaddr:  maybe, get : http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-xconfig/nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz
[23:25] <Varth> Amaranth: Hey, it didn't work.
[23:25] <barqers> mark___ I don't even have a system tools section
[23:25] <d1scodustin> Is there anyway I can set firefox to have very high priority automatically when it opens instead of having to change the setting everytime?
[23:26] <mark___> MTec007: it could be the router
[23:26] <DasEi> dethaddr: I assume it's on your desk, cli : sudo cp ~/Desktop/nvidia*  /usr/src
[23:26] <ab2qik> hi having probs with gnome
[23:27] <mark___> go to a terminal and type fusion-icon
[23:27] <dethaddr> DasEi: yes
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd /usr/src
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls            ,check if file there
[23:27] <MTec007> mark___, Not what I'd like to hear but I guess I can use this as an excuse to get a DD-WRT capable router...
[23:27] <britt> i have a OLD sony picturebook. i have a orinoco card for it but id like to get my prism card working with it. does ubuntu have a good prism driver that i can use with iwconfig?
[23:27] <boscop> I have chm2pdf installed but when I run it, I get an error: No such file or directory: "/tmp/tmp_5s6n1/O'Reilly - Learning GNU Emacs 3rd Edition/urlslist.txt" what is wrong?
[23:27] <ab2qik> moved contents of /usr to a new lvm partition mounted on /mnt/usr
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install unp
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> by any chance does someone has a google wave invite to share with me?
[23:28] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo unp nvidia*
[23:28] <MTec007> ThePhoenixBird, are you sure that it works that way?
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> yep
[23:28] <mark___> Mtec007: yes.  You could always test it by either A) connecting to another router and try flooding the connection or B) using a cheap USB wifi =)
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> look at twitter
[23:28] <sled> hello again
[23:28] <ikonia> ThePhoenixBird: please don't ask in here
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23googlewave
[23:28] <ab2qik> any ideas on gnome config file?
[23:29] <boscop> ThePhoenixBird: google wave is just another google tool to get your private data
[23:29] <ThePhoenixBird> ikonia mmm sorry :(
[23:29] <MTec007> ThePhoenixBird, I don't twitter
[23:29] <ab2qik> gnome for jaunty
[23:29] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:29] <sebsebseb> !ot |  ThePhoenixBird
[23:30] <sled> I just installed the newest ATI driver for my radeon HD 3470 card and I want to setup a dualhead configuration. I want to extend my laptop monitor. It works fine BUT I need two different resolutions, does anybody know how I can setup two different resolutions for each screen? It worked fine with the open source driver but I hadn't any 3D acceleration :/
[23:30] <Eric_xtc> Is Ubuntu better than Kubntu?
[23:30] <chalcedony> I show this in my firefox preferences: chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html  why isn't this the regular google start page? is this /chrome/ ? it's been there since i upgraded to 9.04
[23:30] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: that's personal choice, try them, see what you like
[23:30] <MTec007> mark___, ok thanks
[23:30] <mark___> np
[23:30] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf_synapt
[23:30] <boscop> Eric_xtc: do you know the difference?
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> No
[23:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo nvidia-config
[23:31] <boscop> Eric_xtc: ubuntu has gnome as desktop, kubuntu has kde
[23:31] <Varth> Amaranth: Any other ideas?
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> ive heard of Edubuntu, Xubuntu, and Chubuntu
[23:31] <Anonymus> XD
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> oh okay
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: chubuntu is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo nvidia-xconfig           ,sorry^
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: read ubuntu.com for official releases
[23:31] <boscop> Eric_xtc: xubuntu has xfce
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> okay
[23:31] <ab2qik> getting need to correct /var/lib/gdm on jaunty
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> and what is xfce?
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: another desktop
[23:31] <DasEi> !desktop > Eric_xtc
[23:31] <boscop> another desktop system
[23:32] <britt> is there another channel for technical issues with ubuntu?
[23:32] <ab2qik>  need to correct /var/lib/gdm on jaunty
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: XFCE is a bit like Gnome, but more light waight,  you can install xubuntu-desktop and try it if you want
[23:32] <dethaddr> dasei: every thing tells me command not found
[23:32] <boscop> I have chm2pdf installed but when I run it, I get an error: No such file or directory: "/tmp/tmp_5s6n1/O'Reilly - Learning GNU Emacs 3rd Edition/urlslist.txt" what is wrong?
[23:32] <sadrolla> hi , i can not use my web cam , whjo can help me ?
[23:32] <ikonia> !webcam > sadrolla
[23:32] <ab2qik> pls help
[23:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, im back my mobo takes both ddr1 and ddr2 so I changed out the ddr2 with some ddr1 and now the cache is low and ram usage low........... so might be bad ram mods?
[23:32] <Eric_xtc> oh
[23:32] <DasEi> dethaddr: eerm, where do you hang ?
[23:33] <barqshasbite> mark___ that made my screen white and i had to restart
[23:33] <barqshasbite> Is there any reason why emerald theme manager won't work on my computer??
[23:33] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: could be, have a ubuntu-desktop cd ?
[23:33] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I ran the mem check and it said 30% pass but with no errors
[23:33] <mark___> barqshasbite: when you restarted did you get a system tools menu in applications?
[23:34] <Eric_xtc> What distro do you guys use? anybody
[23:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: ugh.. im a dumbass.
[23:34] <barqshasbite> mark___ nope.
[23:34] <splat_> FC11
[23:34] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: doesn't matter what we use - try what you want
[23:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: the file wasnt on the desktop
[23:34] <S0LIDUS> Hey guy's, just wanted to know what packages I need to install to get EXT4 support on hardy.
[23:34] <DasEi> Eric_xtc: ubuntu here , #kubuntu is there..
[23:34] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support so we are really only going to support ubuntu
[23:34] <kal> ls
[23:34] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: you don't
[23:34] <kal> lol
[23:34] <Eric_xtc> oh um okay
[23:34] <DasEi> dethaddr: k, can you follow it up ?
[23:35] <kal> hey, hi.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> S0LIDUS: there might be a way, but it could mess things up, and woudn't be suppourted in here or on the forums
[23:35] <Eric_xtc> Does anyone know anybody that runs BSD?
[23:35] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: try the bsd support room
[23:35] <barqshasbite> I don't get what's wrong with this computer? Emerald doesn't work at all, yet on my other computer, it works perfectly fine...
[23:35] <dethaddr> maybe let me try.
[23:35] <DasEi> Eric_xtc: #linux
[23:35] <S0LIDUS> I would have thought it would be a simple process?
[23:35] <mark___> barqshasbite: compiz is running, yes?
[23:36] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: no - very not simple
[23:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, does 30% pass mean it only passed at a 30% level?
[23:36] <Eric_xtc> Okay i'll install Ubuntu then
[23:36] <Eric_xtc> later
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: hold on
[23:36] <SaMaDi>  :D
[23:36] <sabayonweb_91075> hi guys i have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 and when i try to install frost wire i get an error
[23:36] <sabayonweb_91075> its a deb file
[23:37] <Eric_xtc> yea.........
[23:37] <ikonia> !9.10 | sabayonweb_91075
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE, and so on, you can have all of those in a standard Ubuntu install
[23:37] <barqshasbite> mark___ Actually, now that I think of it, I just tried to turn on wobbly windows, but it doesn't work. So I guess it's not running? How do I get it running?
[23:37] <optimizer> what resolution is a 720p camera?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: Ubuntu would be the base, kernel and all that, with whatever desktop environment or window manager that you want, on top of it
[23:37] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: a whole memtest takes hours, if it stopped at 30% you got a problem there, and mostly also can see errors then, memtest is something you can run over night, though most faults detect earlier, view /var/log/syslog for issues
[23:37] <S0LIDUS> Grrrr, I have ext4 hdd's on my blades (Jaunty). But wanted the same great file system on hardy. So there definitely is no way of doing it then?
[23:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi,  ok
[23:37] <Eric_xtc> okay. So it's all the same $#1^?
[23:37] <sabayonweb_91075> i have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 on my computer and love it but how do i install frostwaire.deb i keep getting an error
[23:38] <mark___> barqshasbite: first, check to see if there are any hardware drivers for your card in your PC.  System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[23:38] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: not really
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> frostwire is gay
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> try ares
[23:38] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: stop that
[23:38] <Anonymus> XD
[23:38] <Anonymus> ...
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> ares galaxy 2.0.9
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> stop what?
[23:38] <sabayonweb_91075> i know but all deb files fail in 9.10
[23:38] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: being derogatory
[23:38] <LjL> eric_xtc: frostwire likes same-sex torrents?
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> being what?
[23:38] <sabayonweb_91075> i tyred frostwire, limewire, urban terror all deb files and they do not work
[23:38] <S0LIDUS> Ok thanks for the info guys!
[23:39] <dethaddr> nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz is red in the /usr/src$ location. is that normal?
[23:39] <sadrolla> ubottu: hi , i don,t know mark my web cam
[23:39] <barqshasbite> mark___ That's odd, the accelerated driver turned itself off apparently? Or I never activated it... Hmm.. I activated the recommended driver.
[23:39] <sadrolla> ubottu: u can help me ?
[23:39] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: using the phrase gay in a negative way
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !hi |  sadrolla
[23:39] <Eric_xtc> oh um sorry
[23:39] <sabayonweb_91075> i need some help
[23:39] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: uh wrong one
[23:39] <barqshasbite> mark___ It seems to be downloading at the moment
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !bot |  sadrolla
[23:39] <mark___> barqshasbite: then try wobbly windows :-)  if thats ok try running fusion-icon again
[23:40] <LjL> sabayonweb_91075: ask in #ubuntu+1 since you're using an unsupported version
[23:40] <Eric_xtc> does anybody use the Matthew Farrel theme?
[23:40] <tk8> hi, just installed atd and want to make sure it boots on start..  working from command line, how would i get it to boot?
[23:40] <sabayonweb_91075> .DEB Files fail to install in ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 what do i do
[23:40] <LjL> sabayonweb_91075: read.
[23:40] <dethaddr> DasEi:nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz is red in the /usr/src$ location. is that normal?
[23:40] <sabayonweb_91075> yes
[23:40] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Use your words, not factoids.
[23:40] <DasEi> !karmic | sabayonweb_91075
[23:41] <DasEi> dethaddr: yes
[23:41] <barqshasbite> mark___ Thank you very much! I guess I will have to remember to do that first from now on. Thank you once again :)
[23:41] <Eric_xtc> HELLO ANYBODY USE THE MATTHEW FARREL THEME!!!?!?!?!?!?
[23:41] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: don't use caps -
[23:41] <mark___> barqshasbite: no problem.. you get fusion-icon up?
[23:41] <Chun1> Hi - I downloaded and installed a set of icons, which contained tray icons for pidgin - the icons all work but the pidgin icons in the taskbar haven't changed. Any suggestions?
[23:41] <Eric_xtc> why?
[23:41] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: I'm not aware of that theme, but if you look on say gnome-look.org you may find reviews
[23:41] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: If you provide some details about your web cam,  like which type of web cam it is,  and which program you tried to get it working in, someone might be able to help you.  Webcams aren't my area, but there's a program called cheese which might be able to configure yours.
[23:41] <sabayonweb_91075> maybe the deb files are nor compiles to run in ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 is that maybe why they are failing
[23:41] <LjL> Eric_xtc: because it's annoying.
[23:41] <ikonia> !caps > Eric_xtc
[23:41] <jrib> Eric_xtc: in general, don't <insert annoying thing here>
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> anyone else have ubuntu 9.10
[23:42] <Eric_xtc> okay?......wow
[23:42] <barqshasbite> mark___ Haven't gotten to try yet, but it should work now right? Ubuntu seems to be stuck on downloading drivers lol
[23:42] <ikonia> sabayonweb_91075: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 please
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> ok
[23:42] <Eric_xtc> sabayonweb_91075: i do
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> #ubuntu+1
[23:42] <ikonia> sabayonweb_91075: /join #ubuntu+1
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> i got it
[23:43] <mark___> barqshasbite: no reason why not.  If it crashes again re-check your binary drivers havent deactivated :)
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ok
[23:43] <Eric_xtc> sabayonweb_91075:did you order it like i did?
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> no i downloaded it
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> its fricken awasome :]
[23:44] <Eric_xtc> Download version don't work as good they come with missing files
[23:44] <Ddorda> hello. i want to check which  apha i'm using, is there any command for that?
[23:44] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: sabayonweb_91075 please take 9.10 discussion to #ubuntu+1
[23:45] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: No point pming me about your web cam, since I can't help you with it,  the details you provided in pm might be useful, for someone that knows how to configure them in Ubuntu.   There's also a help page that might be useful.
[23:45] <dethaddr> DasEi:  cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:45] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  sadrolla
[23:45] <stlsaint> Dorne, uname -a
[23:46] <dopiwan> anyone running on a eee pc?
[23:46] <DasEi> dethaddr:(blah~/nvidia-xconfig-1.0$)               sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:46] <stlsaint> Ddorda, sorry thought you meant alpha
[23:46] <DasEi> dethaddr : (blah~/nvidia-xconfig-1.0$)               sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:47] <Ddorda> stlsaint: uname -a doesn't help... i need to know which alpha...
[23:47] <sadrolla> ubottu: my web cam is not on list " https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras " i can install my web cam ?
[23:47] <dopiwan> anyone running on a laptop or netbook using 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller ??
[23:47] <Eric_xtc> Any girls in here?
[23:48] <maco> awww i was going to tell him "no, i just stepped out"
[23:48] <stlsaint> Ddorda, lsb_release -icr
[23:48] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Ubottu  can be rather useful, thing is  ubottu is not a person,  ubottu is a computer program.  As a result it can't help you,  except maybe for those web cam links it gave.
[23:48] <Blizzerand> maco : Did he get kicked out
[23:48] <maco> yes ikonia got him
[23:48] <Blizzerand> whats ikona , an admin
[23:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: nope. it does nothing
[23:49] <LjL> no need to leave a trail of discussion *about* the kick, now.
[23:49] <maco> Blizzerand: yes
[23:49] <maco> Blizzerand: ikonia is one of the many mods in this channel
[23:49] <Blizzerand> maco : k
[23:49] <Ddorda> stlsaint: doesn't help.. (
[23:49] <Blizzerand> LjL : lol
[23:49] <stlsaint> LjL, agreed we have all seen it...lets stick to the topic at hand ppl...ubuntu help
[23:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: you unpacked it and cd'd in the dir ? ls shows files ??
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Blizzerand maco: op
[23:50] <stlsaint> Ddorda, where did you get your distro from?
[23:50] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: oh :d , my web cam is not suported list , u think i can install my web cam ?
[23:50] <stlsaint> where ever you downloaded the alpha from is where you can tell which on it is
[23:50] <llua> >:0 whats the command to hide your host name /mode +x isnt working
[23:50] <llua> in irc
[23:50] <Ddorda> stlsaint: main site?
[23:51] <dethaddr> DasEi:nope. did not unpack it. what do i use to unpack it?
[23:51] <stlsaint> from distrowatch or cd-image?
[23:51] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install unp
[23:51] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo unp nvidia*
[23:52] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:52] <dethaddr> DasEi: the ls shows the file in red. but all the others are blue
[23:52] <dethaddr>  DasEi: i did all that.
[23:52] <VCoolio> ikonia: sorry, but what is the penalty for Eric_xtc? permanently banned, or for a period of time?
[23:52] <DasEi> dethaddr: red is the packed archive, blue is a directory, cd there
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Anyone in here know about getting web cams to work in Ubuntu?   If so maybe you can help sadrolla.   In a pm earlier they sent this lsusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:52] <LjL> VCoolio: ask that in #ubuntu-ops if intereste
[23:53] <ikonia> VCoolio: join #ubuntu-ops please
[23:53] <dethaddr>  DasEi: oooh haha
[23:53] <q_> .
[23:54] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: yes , my lsbusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:54] <Mark76> I wish people would stop staying logged into chatrooms when they aren't there :-(
[23:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: hardware says its active
[23:55] <Blizzerand> Is there any program like that of unetbootin , something similar , which can install things ( linux distros) on your OS , without any portable media
[23:55] <NineHams> Why is there no LVM option in the ubuntu partitioner?
[23:55] <bobo> So how stable is the Karmic beta compared to alpha 6?
[23:55] <funkiwan> kdesvn issue: having trouble trying to manage multiple identities for a repository. anyone familiar with the program?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Didn't you also say in pm  that you aren't good at English?  If so  what's your language, so you can go to a channel in your language for Ubuntu help as well
[23:55] <dethaddr> but i wanna run an xconfig right?
[23:55] <Mark76> It makes me feel like I'm being snubbed
[23:55] <NineHams> Or at least, how do I set up LVM?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  bobo
[23:55] <DasEi> dethaddr: did the config-util ran through ?
[23:55] <Flannel> NineHams: You need the Alternate or server CDs, Desktop CD can't do it.
[23:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: i dont the so
[23:55] <Mark76> Is Karmic ready for daily use yet?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Mark76: no
[23:56] <Mark76> Okay
[23:56] <Mark76> I'll leave it then
[23:56] <Flannel> Mark76: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, and no.  It's beta for a reason.
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Mark76: well for some I guess it is, but the majority of Ubuntu users no
[23:56] <NineHams> Flannel: Is there a different way? Like installing the options via aptitude or something?
[23:56] <Blizzerand> Maek79 : Please use #ubuntu+1 for discussions
[23:56] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: those who not reqest my ask
[23:56] <Flannel> NineHams: sure, you could set up the LVM after you install and migrate it.  But that seems like a hassle.
[23:56] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd in the blue dir and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:56] <maco> NineHams: use the alternate cd if you want lvm
[23:56] <NineHams> Flannel: It would be. Shouldn't I be able to install LVM manager from the live cd?
[23:57] <maco> NineHams: the live cd is meant to ask as few questins as possible
[23:57] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Ok other than English which language do you speak?
[23:57] <NineHams> maco: I know. But is there a way?
[23:57] <Flannel> NineHams: Yeah, but I don't believe the installer knows how to handle it.  I might be mistaken though.  You could certainly try it.
[23:57] <NineHams> Flannel: Yes, I'm going to see if I could get it working
[23:57] <maco> NineHams: so that it can be *very* simple. can you imagine the confusion it'd induce to ask <insert non-tech person here> about a volume management system?  the alternate cd is made for more advanced users to do more advanced installs
[23:57] <Flannel> NineHams: Let me know if you do!
[23:57] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: no my  language is persion
[23:57] <dethaddr> DasEi: i dont know what you mean
[23:57] <maximash___> hi to you all... :) i'm on Karmic beta now and i can't install Ubuntu Tweak (from www.ubuntu-tweak.com), i tried 0.4.9 version for Karmic, is it a known issue or i do something wrong when installing?
[23:58] <Flannel> maximash___: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, not here, thanks.
[23:58] <ikonia> !9.10 | maximash___
[23:58] <NineHams> maco: What are you talking about?
[23:58] <ubox> just in case anyone else ever needs to be able to do this, if you delete files (even on ext3) and want them back get foremost. package of the same name.
[23:58] <NineHams> maco: I just want to figure out how to install the LVM manager from the livecd
[23:58] <maximash___> thx, sorry... :)
[23:58] <Blizzerand> Is there any program like that of unetbootin , something similar , which can install things ( linux distros) on your OS , without any portable media . Anyone ???
[23:58] <ubox> i wiped my whole backup and am recovering it all now
[23:58] <maco> NineHams: the live cd doesnt have lvm on it at all, so it cant set it up on the machine
[23:59] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Which countrey is that?
[23:59] <NineHams> maco: I meant a separate LVM manager
[23:59] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls shows you a file in blue..
[23:59] <maco> NineHams: separate?
[23:59] <Flannel> NineHams: The package is lvm2, I believe.
[23:59] <NineHams> Flannel: Oh, thanks, you saved me some time!
[23:59] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: is iran #ubuntu-ir
[23:59] <maco> NineHams: (i was trying to explain before *why* the livecd doesnt offer lvm)
[23:59] <jordy240> hi, why must I unmount all partitions higher than 5 to delete partition num. 5? it inconviences me to have to download and run gparted
[23:59] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvid>pressTABhere<
[23:59] <dethaddr> DasEi: yea. a bunch like 6 of em
[23:59] <NineHams> maco: oh, yes, I know why :)