[15:15] <Kartagis> what's the alsa version in jaunty?
[15:15] <kungfoollama> I am kung foo llama
[15:15] <afancy> how to reinstall x-windows?
[15:15] <sarmisak> kungfoollama: ok.
[15:15] <kavity_> afancy: Do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[15:15] <mcr> is there any official way to turn off the udev consistent naming of ethernet interfaces?  It's not useful for virtual appliances....
[15:15] <pvtpete> anyone here able to troubleshoot sata problems?
[15:15] <afancy> kavity_:  yes, i have installed just now
[15:15] <kungfoollama> Kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:16] <sarmisak> pvtpete: like what?
[15:16] <afancy> kavity_: there is another error
[15:16] <kavity_> afancy: And have you set up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[15:16] <pvtpete> like I boot my machine from ubuntu IDE hdd and it works fine but when I boot with sata I just get a flashing prompt
[15:16] <LimeBurst> linux filesystem
[15:16] <pvtpete> not even a command line
[15:17] <afancy> kavity_: i have install nvidia-glx-180
[15:17] <sarmisak> pvtpete: hmm, might it be a mainboard version problem?
[15:17] <keepsake> Kartagis: I think you should find something if you look it up on google, one of the results say .18
[15:17] <sarmisak> pvtpete: some don't boot from sata
[15:17] <afancy> kavity_: is it correct on my installation package?
[15:17] <mcr> pvtpete, are you attempting to move a cable, or is this a different disk?  Are you booting from the cdrom, or what?
[15:17] <sky_> anyone know why i can resize my ntfs partition ?
[15:17] <pvtpete> booting from an IDE disk
[15:17] <pvtpete> with ubuntu
[15:17] <mcr> sounds like the grub on the sata doesn't know which disk is which.
[15:17] <BigMoopies> keepsake, sebsebseb I am guessing ext3 will not convert to ext4 ? like FAT32 converts to NTFS in windows
[15:18] <pvtpete> and extra storage drives (sata) attached to mainboard and adaptec raid card
[15:18] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: correct, but there is a way to get some of Ext4's functionality in Ext3
[15:18] <pvtpete> perhaps there are ubuntu drivers for it ?
[15:18] <mcr> pvtpete, what disk is grub installed on?
[15:18] <pvtpete> the idea
[15:18] <pvtpete> ide
[15:18] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: at the moment in the development versions of 9.04 there is a data loss bug with Ext4 also, that hasn't been sorted out yet
[15:18] <Pici> !jaunty | sebsebseb
[15:18] <keepsake> BigMoopies: ext3 should be able to be changed to ext4
[15:18] <mcr> and are you trying to boot different kernels from different disks, or just booting with the sata plugged in?
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Pici: ha ha,  I already done that to a few people
[15:18] <Kartagis> I am using intrepid. can i install software from jaunty repos?
[15:19] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, keepsake sounds like a whole nother reason not to 'upgrade'
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Kartagis: maybe, but not a good idea, could really mess your system up
[15:19] <keepsake> BigMoopies: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yes don't get 9.04 untill it's stable
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: don't get 9.04 untill the final release
[15:19] <pvtpete> just booting with sata plugged in
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: anything before that expect bugs
[15:20] <keepsake> sebsebseb, BigMoopies: Some people say it's pretty stable already, though the final does come pretty soon, in about a month or so.
[15:20] <Kartagis> sebsebseb, do you know how I can do it? I need to upgrade alsa
[15:20] <Pici> sebsebseb: Then you should know better than to discuss Jaunty in this channel.
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Pici: heh are you an op?
[15:20] <Pici> sebsebseb: Does it matter?
[15:20] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I'm just gonna wait on the next LTS.  It's like I'm not going to "upgrade" to Vista
[15:21] <BigMoopies> (from XP)
[15:21] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yeah Vista is hardly worth the upgrade from XP, just as Windows 7 is hardly worth the upgrade from XP either, but enough fools will upgrade  to WIndows 7 from XP
[15:21] <dsdeiz> any fluxbox users here?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: instead of getting a decant OS,  as in Linux distro, Mac OS X, or BSD,  etc
[15:21] <colouragga> where is the kungfu lama?
[15:21] <dimitree> Hello :) Do i have to reinstall Ubuntu Alpha 6 when a new Alpha is available ? Or i just keep updating it ?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[15:21] <sarmisak> dimitree: you just upgrade
[15:22] <keepsake> BigMoopies: Well, Jaunty is supposed to have a bunch of performance tweaks and such.
[15:22] <dimitree> sarmisak upgrade or update from the update manager ?
[15:22] <keepsake> BigMoopies: Unlike the XP -> Vista that slowed your computer down.
[15:22] <Cybix> Hello people. Is there a way to install and select a GDM theme as default by use of the prompt? I need to install it for somebody, but I only have SSH access to the box
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: should work fine, as it has been working for me for years
[15:22] <sebsebseb> keepsake: it has bugs also blah de blah.  new Ubuntu users shoudn't be trying development versions of 9.04
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: update
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: but you can upgrade from update manager also
[15:23] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I think MS is gonna axe XP within a few years though.  keepsake, That's one reason I asked about powernowd , it seemed to just slow me down and I am not even on a battery , so I figured why do I need CPU scaling software ?
[15:23] <keepsake> sebsebseb: True, although I'm taking a risk and installing alpha6, since I have a dual-boot I can recover with.
[15:23] <Anna_111> installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am using the LiveCd to install. The LiveCd checked out fi
[15:23] <oCean_> sebsebseb: keepsake BigMoopies Why not take discussion elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:23] <jatt> how can I obtain the temperature of my laptop (processor)?
[15:23] <dimitree> sarmisak i hope it will notify me when a new alpha is available :) thank you very much for helping
[15:23] <jatt> Ubuntu 8.04.1
[15:23] <sarmisak> dimitree: it does, don't worry
[15:24] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yep  indeed XP is on the verge of dieing, even though  according to many people,  it's the best  version of Windows.   XP  was ok, but  I got a Windows expert sort of guy that uses WIndows Server 2003 as his desktop OS, and that runs  everything XP runs
[15:24] <BigMoopies> oCean_, OK for that.  But I still don't know if there is a ligit reason to keep the 'powernowd' ?
[15:24] <keepsake> dimitree: The release schedule is here in case you need it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule.
[15:24] <Picassotamus> jatt: Installing lm_sensors (your distro should have it) will let you monitor CPU and case temperatures, and a system monitor like GKrellM will display the temperatures on your desktop.
[15:24] <sarmisak> dimitree: but be careful about alphas, it usually screws up your system often
[15:24] <dimitree> keepsake: thanks ! Btw 9.04 runs so much faster i don't know why :)
[15:24] <sebsebseb> did I get kicked?
[15:24] <pallino> salve a tutti
[15:25] <pallino> !list
[15:25] <jatt> it seems there is no lm_sensors package in ubuntu... is there another way?
[15:25] <wanna_learn_more> hi?
[15:25] <BigMoopies> Also, would I be able to cut off keeping recent documents in Places ? I didn't like that in windows either.
[15:25] <o0Chris0o> !ot | sebsebseb:
[15:25] <keepsake> dimitree: I've seen some benchmarks, and apparently there are certain fixes in 9.04 or something...
[15:25] <crispy---> I am getting some graphics bugs (screen locks, kernel crashed and purple artifacts en masse) in ubuntu 8.10/KDE4.2 - nvidia 8400GS (started with 180.2~5 and occurs consistently with 180.35 driver). I got Kwin effects enabled. The bug first occurred after trying a d3d game running in vmware player on windows xp sp3. I exited the game and turned off the VM and BOOM! This was with the 180.2x driver. I then  rebooted and everything seemed to work nicely (didnt
[15:25] <wanna_learn_more> how to install kernel-header at ubuntu intrepid?
[15:26] <crispy---> temperatures are normal fyi
[15:26] <Pici> keepsake, dimitree: Please take Jaunty discussion to #ubuntu+1, it is offtopic for here.
[15:26] <sebsebseb> o0Chris0o: well  yeah, but  when about 6 people want to ot...  anyway did I get kicked?
[15:26] <sarmisak> wanna_learn_more: apt-get install linux-header
[15:26] <wanna_learn_more> thanks
[15:26] <dimitree> Pici ok sorry
[15:26] <sebsebseb> Pici: did I get kicked?
[15:26] <Pici> sebsebseb: Yes
[15:26] <jmdc> Ljl: hey there, I'm back (you showed me that bug report and possible fix  for scrollkeeper)
[15:26] <Picassotamus> !repeat | sebsebseb
[15:26] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[15:26] <chronic> does mint use the same network manager as ubuntu?
[15:26] <Pici> chronic: Ask them, we do not support Mint..
[15:27] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: the uname -r part prints the version for your current kernel. You need that in the apt-get install command
[15:27] <chronic> Pici, why not?
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> owh
[15:27] <furenku> hello, where are the configuration files for the apps in Intrepid? I can't find hidden config files in ~/
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> so it will choose my kernel header
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> i have intrepid and i tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:27] <jmdc> ljl: the suggested fix doesn't work. It suggests installing a replacement package, but apt is broken so that doesn't work.
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> but why my kernel still 2.6.27-11?
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> how to get more than it?
[15:27] <Buffalo_Bill> chronic, because this is the Ubuntu forum, not the mint?
[15:27] <salah> Hi. Is there any themes that makes Gnome look a little more different? I want to try something new
[15:28] <Buffalo_Bill> channel*
[15:28] <furenku> i'm trying to find my .asoundsrc file, but it's not in ~/
[15:28] <sebsebseb> salah: blubuntu :)
[15:28] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: a apt-get dist-upgrade doesn’t install the new version
[15:28] <afancy> hi, can i reinstall  Ubuntu on line?
[15:28] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: Indeed. The exact command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" will install the correct headers version
[15:28] <furenku> any ideas where it might be?
[15:28] <jmdc> ljl: or rather, my apt configuration
[15:28] <sebsebseb> salah: it's in the repo.  you can get a really nice gdm with it
[15:28] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:yeah,can i know ur kernel mr ocean?
[15:29]  * colouragga pounces LjL out of context
[15:29] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: have you changed your sources.list?
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:not yet
[15:29] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: currently running 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
[15:29] <keepsake> salah: Do a Google search for "ubuntu themes"
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:me too
[15:29] <roue> hola
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:2.6.27-11 is stable one?
[15:29] <oCean_> !themes | salah
[15:29] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: this is the intrepid kernel
[15:30] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:if i changed my source.list that means it will go to unstable one?
[15:30] <Anna_111> Hi, Is there any one who can help me with my issue? installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am us
[15:30] <chronic> why does the network manager not remember the static ip settings?
[15:30] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: it is the current (stable) version for intrepid indeed
[15:30] <salah> keepsake: I know about the usual gnome themes, but I want to try something new. For example another way to organize the menus and panels etc
[15:30] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:so if i change my source it will go to developed kernel or even unstable one?
[15:30] <furenku> where is the .asoundsrc normally located?
[15:30] <roue> I'm running HP's MIE version of Ubuntu 8.04. They've done some kernel patching to get all the hardware to work. I suspect the patched source is available in the apt repository, but I have no idea what it would be called. What's the standard for kernel source package names under Ubuntu? thanks.
[15:30] <furenku> the .asoundsrc file, sorry
[15:30] <keepsake> salah: That I don't know, although Googling might still be your best choice here, sorry.
[15:30] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: i think i misunderstood you, i thought you wanted to upgrade to jaunty
[15:30] <Picassotamus> furenku: They aren't normally needed, but you can set one up for your own profile in home
[15:30] <vigo> wanna_learn_more: http://www.kernel.org/ <<those are the stable kernels
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:jaunty is 9.04 ???its still unstable ?
[15:31] <furenku> Picassotamus, thanks, I'll just create one, then
[15:31] <furenku> thanks
[15:31] <keepsake> wanna_learn_more: Yes, it's still an Alpha.
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> okay2
[15:31] <Draiven> hi, somebody know how can I install glassfish on ubuntu-server without x-server?
[15:31] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: yes, I misread your question
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> thanks ^^
[15:32] <wanna_learn_more> do u know how to set ath5k on intrepid?
[15:32] <Picassotamus> furenku: np
[15:32] <Pici> chronic: Because they make repository and configuration changes that we cannot be accountable for.
[15:32] <salah> Okay, is there any ways to for example make window titles more transparent?
[15:32] <wanna_learn_more> i already installed LBM but still dont know how to do it
[15:32] <torc> is it better to use checkinstall or stow to deal with compiled apps?
[15:33] <Anna_111> Hi, Is there any one who can help me with my issue? installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help.
[15:34] <_r00t-> hello. i have ubuntu 9.04 alpha6 installed under ext4 fs and my problem is that sometimes when i'm trying to upgrade my system via apt-get dist-upgrade i'm getting a kernel lock... is that a ext4 issue ?
[15:34] <pirla> salve
[15:34] <Pici> _r00t-: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:34] <pirla> ! list.
[15:34] <FoolsRun> hey, when you run polkit-auth --show-obtainable, what does it show?
[15:34] <_r00t-> Pici, ok sorry :)
[15:34] <pirla> !list
[15:35] <keepsake> Anna_111: Seems like a bug in Intrepid...
[15:35] <FoolsRun> When I run polkit-auth --show-obtainable it only shows "com.ubuntu.devicedriver.install"  and nothing else --is there a way to rebuild what's supposed to be there?
[15:36] <Anna_111> My first install went without a hitch. But I had to change partition size and include a /home partition and that's when the problem started. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am using the LiveCd to install. The LiveCd checked out fine.
[15:36] <sipior> Anna_111: is your home directory full, by any chance?
[15:36] <Anna_111> sipior it could be.. I don't know
[15:36] <torc> ! checkinstall
[15:37] <Anna_111> I kept 10gb for home
[15:37] <Boscop> how can I install ubuntu from the live cd without using the graphical installer?
[15:37] <azhari> hii
[15:37] <torc> ! stow
[15:37] <torc> ! xstow
[15:37] <Pici> !msgthebot | torc
[15:37] <torc> Boscop, download the alternate CD
[15:38] <torc> Pici, <3
[15:38] <keepsake> !info xstow: torc:
[15:38] <keepsake> oops
[15:38] <keepsake> !info xstow
[15:39] <sipior> Anna_111: also, was this really an error on boot, or on login?
[15:39] <BigMoopies> Oh, one more thing. When I minimize a window. (Visual effects is off) , there is that little black border shrinking down and down to the (er? taskbar?) till it is minimized , is it possible to even turn that annoyance off ?
[15:39] <wanna_learn_more> can i install any kernel-devel for intrepid?
[15:40] <Anna_111> sipior, after login
[15:41] <L3dPlatedLinux> where would I put a sound theme in order to change the whole thing instead of one at a time
[15:41] <sipior> Anna_111: after boot, when you're looking at the login screen, try hitting "ctrl-alt-F1", to get to a console, log in and check the disk space with "df".  you can hit "alt-f7" to get back...
[15:41] <keepsake> BigMoopies: http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/127-remove-black-rectangle-when-you-minimize-windows.html
[15:42] <vigo> wanna_learn_more: Not really, you can only use the ones that the rest of the system supports, sort of.
[15:42] <Anna_111> sipior.. let me try again.. thanks
[15:42] <torc> anyone have a preference for stow versus xstow versus checkinstall?
[15:43] <wanna_learn_more> vigo:how to find it?
[15:43] <sLaeYa> hey is there a way to make a fresh ubuntu install (remove everything installed apart from the base) via ssh
[15:44] <saisai> hello
[15:44] <BigMoopies> keepsake, I can't find the requested "Metacity" options program , is there a GUI version of what they are talking about I can install ?
[15:44] <tobberoth> I put the minimal install CD on a bootable USB and booted from it... the commandline install worked perfectly but got stuck on 6%, installing the base system (retrieving tasksel-data)... what can I do?
[15:45] <BigMoopies> oh
[15:45] <sLaeYa> i have my server in a data centre and I need to start again
[15:45] <saisai> Hey I accidentally deleted the top panel on my Ubuntu OS
[15:45] <saisai> I re-added it but the panel is blank
[15:45] <sarmisak> tobberoth: you might have to mount it from another console
[15:46] <saisai> so I have to add each feature individually
[15:46] <saisai> does ne1 know how to return to the default top panel?
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: try hitting ALT+F2, and try: mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/
[15:46] <Anna_111> sipior: It seems my /home is at 100% use
[15:46] <sipior> Anna_111: well, there's your problem :-)
[15:46] <saisai> send my a pm
[15:46] <saisai> thnks
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: should probably work but I would recommend a full install CD image when installing from USB
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: works right out of the box
[15:47] <vigo> saisal: Reboot and use the restore thing
[15:48] <tobberoth> sarmisak: failed: no such file or directory
[15:48] <sipior> sLaeYa: depending on what you need to fix, it might be simpler to use the "--purge" switch when removing packages, to ensure that old configuration files are destroyed. you can apt-get uninstall your way back to the original system.
[15:48] <tobberoth> sarmisak: I have ubuntu on CD already, I would just prefer a minimal install :/
[15:48] <sLaeYa> thanks sipior thats what I was afraid of
[15:48] <jatt> lm-sensors shows 60C temperature, is that too high? (dell laptop)
[15:48] <sLaeYa> I have a million and one packages installed
[15:48] <tobberoth> the minimal install CD worked perfectly in virtualbox so I didn't expect any problems
[15:48] <sarmisak> tobberoth: sorry mistyped, try mounting /dev/sdb1 as it might be your thumb drive
[15:49] <simion314> hi, i have 2 PCMCIA ethernet cards that are not visible in arch but work in ubuntu, any ideea? i have the default kernel in both distros
[15:49] <Anna_111> sipior: first time when I installed I did not have a /home. 20gb in / and 10gb in swap space. I was told that I should reduce the swap space and then create a /home dir. I gave 10gb to /home. How is that the first time when I did not have a /home I had no problem?
[15:49] <sarmisak> tobberoth: but this is a thumb drive, it has its complications ;) in virtualbox you install from an ISO image working as a CDROM
[15:50] <sipior> Anna_111: well, you had a home directory, but it was subsumed by the / partition. when you gave 10gb to /home, where did you take it from?
[15:50] <tobberoth> sarmisak: There is a dev/sdb1 but I still get the same error
[15:51] <Guest39087> Hi, i have a game there have tar.gz at the back of its name, am i wrong but aint it "sudo apt-get install "the game name.tar.gz" and then it should install it ?
[15:51] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: 10GB in home, hum the idea was to have most of the Linux space for home
[15:51] <Anna_111> sipior, since I repartitioned I can't tell where I took it from. Part of it came from / and part of it came from /swap
[15:51] <sarmisak> tobberoth: hmmms, good luck then. I would recommend writing the minimal install image to a CD.
[15:51] <Anna_111> not /swap but swap
[15:51] <sipior> Anna_111: but there was nothing in the partition originally, right? did you make sure that a new filesystem was created?
[15:52] <sebsebseb> sipior: as far as I know she got rid of all Linux partitions and started over,   keeping the Windows stuff untouched
[15:52] <Yoda> Hi, i have a game there have tar.gz at the back of its name, am i wrong but aint it "sudo apt-get install "the game name.tar.gz" and then it should install it ?
[15:53] <sipior> Anna_111: you might want to try a reinstall, verifying that the "format this partition" switch is set for /, /home and swap.
[15:53] <sebsebseb> sipior: so about 30GB to  use for  Ubuntu's stuff
[15:53] <Picassotamus> yoda: no sudo apt-get install is used to install from repos, a *.tar.gz needs to be 'unzipped'
[15:53] <Anna_111> sipior, I went through the same motions as I did the first time. I went to manual mode. Created ext3 for / and /home and then linux-swap
[15:53] <keepsake> Guest86868: No, you'd only do that with repository files.
[15:53] <tobberoth> sarmisak: Is it not because there is no /cdrom/ ?
[15:54] <keepsake> Guest86868: Check this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246092
[15:54] <Guest86868> keepsake:  Okay, but how do install it then, if you know :)
[15:54] <sipior> sebsebseb: right, i'm trying to figure out how the /home partition got filled up immediately after install :-)
[15:54] <Anna_111> sebsebseb is right, sipior. I have about 30gb available for ubuntu
[15:54] <Anna_111> sipior, will it matter if the /home us subsumed by the / ?
[15:55] <sipior> Anna_111: no, but i generally prefer a separate /home partition, to minimise the pain of upgrades...
[15:55] <keepsake> Guest86868: In other words, you do different things depending on what you find in the .tar.gz.
[15:55] <sebsebseb> sipior: yep I told her to do a seperate home :)
[15:55] <sebsebseb> sipior: and to do 1GB for swap instead of  10GB,  but she did like 2GB for swap
[15:55] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[15:56] <FuriousGeorge> ubuntu doesn't use utp by default does it?
[15:56] <Anna_111> sipior.. ok so pleas suggest what the /, /home , swap sizes should be. I have 30gb available and 1.5gb RAM
[15:56] <sipior> Anna_111: could i get you to pastebin your partition map? you can access it via "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda", changing the disk device as needed.
[15:56] <Guest86868> keepsake:  ohh okay i see .
[15:56] <Guest86868> keepsake:  But its just a little game (3mb)
[15:56] <blip> does anyone use convertx in wine?
[15:57] <sipior> Anna_111: generally i would go with around 10gb for root, 2gb for swap and the balance under /home. that's not fixed in stone, of course
[15:57] <sebsebseb> blip: what's that?
[15:57] <Guest86868> keepsake: you know how i maybe install that ?
[15:57] <sarmisak> tobberoth: might be, but usually debian installs that way
[15:57] <FiveAcres> I seem to be having the metacity "missing window decorations" problem on my jaunty install.  Do I need to do anything to report a bug, and is there any way I can fix it?
[15:57] <keepsake> Guest86868: When you do the "tar xvf <filename>", you get a folder.
[15:57] <keepsake> Or something of the kind
[15:57] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes i have extracted it :)
[15:57] <sebsebseb> sipior: yeah I guess,  Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and whatever other apps, will all fit in a 10GB /  with a seperate home
[15:57] <keepsake> Guest86868: What's in the folder?
[15:57] <vigo> FiveAcres: Join ubuntu+1
[15:58] <Dreamglider> is it posible to dual boot of a usb flash disk ?
[15:58] <FiveAcres> Thank you, vigo
[15:58] <Anna_111> sipior, sure I can paste in flickr. one question though should I use the livecd to login and then show it from Gparted? will that do?
[15:58] <vigo> !jaunty
[15:58] <sipior> Anna_111: try pastebin
[15:58] <noo> ciao
[15:58] <sipior> !paste | Anna_111
[15:58] <FuriousGeorge> i have a third party app that can't tell time, despite my system time being right.  i have an identical computer that tells time just fine.  i cant figure out what the difference could be
[15:58] <FuriousGeorge> how can i tell if im using utp?
[15:59] <Guest86868> keepsake: userlevels.txt, license.txt, n_cheats.txt, readme.txt editor manual.txt and editor_maual.doc
[15:59] <sipior> sebsebseb: yeah, and if more space is needed, symbolic links can be of some use. (and disks are cheap, anyway...)
[15:59] <Guest86868> keepsake: AND n_v14 (the game i think)
[15:59] <sebsebseb> sipior: I don't know about symbolic links
[15:59] <eL-GeWzZz> Hi all
[15:59] <sebsebseb> sipior: yeah and she can  save onto the Windows partitions
[15:59] <Anna_111> ok I will paste in pastebin, sipior. But will it work if I paste the screenshoot from Gparted after I login with live CD?
[15:59] <keepsake> Guest86868: Oh, are you trying to play a windows game? (n I presume?)
[15:59] <sipior> Anna_111: no, try that sfdisk command i mentioned earlier
[15:59] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: pastebin is just text, he only needs text
[16:00] <Anna_111> ok
[16:00] <eL-GeWzZz> is it possible to install iTunes on Ubuntu 8.10 ? i need for to sync the iPhone
[16:00] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: he just wants the output of the command
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eL-GeWzZz: no, but there's a good iTunes alternative out there
[16:00] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes exaxtly, but i went on a website and downloaded the version for linux
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eL-GeWzZz: I don't think you can run iTunes in Wine either, but you can in a Windows virtual machine that is inside Ubuntu
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Guest86868, which game?
[16:01] <tobberoth> sarmisak: I was able to mount the USB at /cdrom now... but there's no change in the installer :( still trying to retrieve tasksel-data indefinitely
[16:01] <FuriousGeorge> the makesr of this third part app suggested i switch to utp instead of localtime, but i cant find any docs as to that
[16:01] <Guest86868> Paddy_EIRE:  N game.
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !iphone | eL-GeWzZz
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[16:01] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: what app?
[16:01] <eL-GeWzZz>  Thank you guys, i look for a VM
[16:01] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: third party practice management software
[16:02] <lesshaste> I am trying to install flash support for hardy
[16:02] <lesshaste> but I get
[16:02] <lesshaste> Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[16:02] <lesshaste> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[16:02] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: it's not UTP, it's UTC. you should edit /etc/timezone and change it to UTC
[16:02] <FloodBot2> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <tobberoth> sarmisak: Is there anyway to restart the installer without rebooting?
[16:02] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: oh right, that's what i meant
[16:02] <Anna_111> sipior: This looks like a partition rather than the entire disk. Using fdisk on it is probably meaningless. use the force option if you want it.. this is what I got
[16:02] <sarmisak> tobberoth: I don't think so, sorry.
[16:02] <keepsake> Guest86868: Try downloading the Windows version and run it with Wine.
[16:02] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay i try that :)
[16:03] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: Right click the clock, and adjust it GUI style or go command line. It might interfere with updates and stuff, so re-set as needed.
[16:03] <xinel> anybody know where i can find a blowfish 512 bit text encryptor?
[16:03] <sipior> Anna_111: could you type the precise command line you used? just specify the device name ("/dev/sda"), not /dev/sda2 or anything like that...
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, hey man adobe has since released adobe-flashplugin for linux this works much better in my opinion
[16:03] <wanna_learn_more> !jaunty
[16:03] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: thanks
[16:03] <wanna_learn_more> vigo:how to find it?sorry disconnected from server ><
[16:03] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, great.. how do I get that for hardy?
[16:03] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: are you named after a city?
[16:03] <Anna_111> sipior: /dev/sda5
[16:03] <Anna_111> that is my / sipior
[16:03] <fede> irc.reserstyle.net
[16:04] <LjL> !info bcrypt | xinel
[16:04] <sipior> Anna_111: right, so just try: "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda"
[16:04] <wanna_learn_more> !info gcc
[16:04] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: Not really, sort of, yes, here is the doc on that: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, go to 'System > Administratin > Software Sources' then under the 3rd party tab enable/tick the partners repository
[16:04] <xinel> LjL: i thought bcrypt only did files, i want to just encode text
[16:05] <LjL> xinel: err... can a file not be text?
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, once you do that update your package list and do "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[16:05] <keepsake> Guest86868: Using Wine to load the Windows version works for me.
[16:05] <xinel> LjL: want to use it for irc purposes
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !wfm | keepsake
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[16:05] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay im downloading it now, so i cant wait to see if it works, its a really fun game :D
[16:05] <brblack_> hello peoples!!
[16:06] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: =P Haha, although, the Linux version won't execute for some reason.
[16:06] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, thanks!
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, you made it executable right?
[16:06] <Anna_111> sipior: ok that worked.. but how can I copy and paste from there? It's on a desktop monitor and I am on the console screen
[16:06] <die> qualcuno mi fa fare il boot per overnet
[16:06] <die> ?
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, no probs :)
[16:06] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: Yup.
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[16:06] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, :)
[16:07] <lesshaste> is there an easy way to switch between flash plugins? I mean if I want to try the swfdec one and the gnash one for example
[16:07] <brblack_> if exists any C programmers say true=true!!
[16:07] <sipior> Anna_111: try installing the "pastebinit" package
[16:07] <regeya> !offtopic > brblack_
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> brblack_, try making sense :)
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: yeah or go to http://www.pastebin.com or http://www.pastebin.ca  and upload  the output of the command it's easy
[16:08] <sipior> Anna_111: and then try "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:08] <LjL> die: vai su #ubuntu-it per parlare in italiano, e comunque né questo né quello sono il canale adatto
[16:08] <brblack_> ok
[16:08] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay i got the windows version now, but it lags a bit :/
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hey LjL
[16:08] <brblack_> sorry
[16:08] <Anna_111> sipior, can it be installed with sudo apt-get install pastebinit ?
[16:08] <sipior> Anna_111: yep!
[16:08] <wanna_learn_more> !license
[16:09] <keepsake> Guest86868: It does, but I think it's still playable =\
[16:09] <zxd__> Does anyone know where did the theme debian-moreblue go from gdm-themes ?
[16:09] <wanna_learn_more> !windows
[16:09] <wanna_learn_more> !linux
[16:09] <LjL> xinel: "mcrypt" should do that
[16:09] <Anna_111> hey I am learning stuff from sipior :) thanks
[16:09] <LjL> xinel: with the -F option, it can take input from stdin
[16:09] <regeya> !botabuse
[16:09] <xinel> ooo interesting
[16:09] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes indeed, but is it like this with every windows products if you use Wine loader ?
[16:09] <xinel> LjL:  thankyou
[16:09] <sipior> wanna_learn_more: try using redirection, so as not to consume so much channel space: "!foo > wanna_learn_more"
[16:10] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: who did you say that to?   using tab and selecting someones name is  good
[16:10] <LjL> try to use PM rather
[16:10] <sebsebseb> !tab |  Anna_111
[16:10] <keepsake> Guest86868: No, most Windows programs don't have frameskip problems.
[16:10] <Anna_111> sipior: http://pastebin.com/f6dd17cb2
[16:10] <Guest86868> keepsake: ohh. glad to hear that !
[16:11] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: you shoudn't really use Windows programs on Desktop Linux :)    only if you can't find a good enough native version
[16:11] <keepsake> !askthebot | sipior, wanna_learn_more
[16:11] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: both my time zones are set the same, but one computer is still of by an hour
[16:11] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: native programs :)  then  Wine and stuff like that,  and then a virtual machine if no good in Wine etc.  then   real Windows :D
[16:12] <blip> cant find a nix equivalent to convertx to dvd :(
[16:12] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f6dd17cb2
[16:12] <kitche> FuriousGeorge: bad cmos battery maybe?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: well that's what I would do :)
[16:12] <keepsake> sebsebseb: We had this discussion last night =P
[16:12] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: might be DST?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> keepsake: with someone else?
[16:12] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  year alright i can see what you mean... :)
[16:12] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Nah, I remember talking to you about the whole VMing issue.
[16:13] <sipior> Anna_111: could i get you to paste the output of "df", then?
[16:13] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: im sure it has something to do with dst, but the server who's 3rd party app is off by one hour is set to change for dst
[16:13] <FortheHorde> Hi my new install isn't recognizing when I plug in headphones. Anyone run into that problem?
[16:13] <Anna_111> sure sipior. one sec
[16:13] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: i get the impression its a bug in their program
[16:14] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: what's this 3rd party app? is it a forum system or something like that?
[16:14] <Akkernight> Is there an easy way to uninstall GCC and MingW ?
[16:14] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f2a14199b
[16:14] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: by the way Linux was never meant to be a Windows alternative originalley, it's meant to be a Unix alternative.  it's just  since Windows sadly has most Desktop market share, certain versions of  Desktop Linux are  really  meant to be a Windows alternative,  Ubuntu, Mandriva,  Xandros, and PCLinuxOS to name a few
[16:14] <krlos> ryanakca, hi
[16:14] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: its a practice management suite for a optometrist, and the patient scheduler is off by one hour at one location, but not the other, despite both locations running off the same remote server
[16:15] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  is that right, okaay, didnt know that.
[16:15] <FuriousGeorge> and both clients (ltsp in this case) having identical
[16:15] <Anna_111> sipior that did not come out ok. I typed sudo df /dev/sda/ pastebinit
[16:15] <FuriousGeorge> *identical time
[16:15] <sarmisak> hmm, i see. strange behaviour actually, the should be the same if they are both working on LTSP.
[16:15] <corey> something is using alot of memory and processing power. How do I find out what it is?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: yep  and it really sucks how programs like Wine  are there to make programs work in Desktop Linux, that were made for the crappy OS.   I  am not saying Wine is bad, I am saying  it sucks how a program like Wine had to be made in the first place
[16:16] <mobodo> is there an image somewhere of a dvd that will let me ghost and restore hard drives based on ubuntu?
[16:16] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f1fbd2a4d
[16:16] <mobodo> or can I just use the default desktop dvd?
[16:16] <sebsebseb> !unix |  Guest86868
[16:16] <lasivian_> Someone gave me a usb bluetooth dongle, but when I plug it in gnome's bluetooth manager does not see it, and lsusb shows a blank for the name
[16:16] <sebsebseb> !linux |  Guest86868
[16:16] <corey> something is using alot of memory and processing power. How do I find out what it is?
[16:16] <Akkernight> Is there any easy way to uninstall GCC and MingW ?
[16:17] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  okay thanks for share !
[16:17] <kitche> Akkernight: just remove the gcc package and mingW package
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: also this kind of software is about software freedoms,  not  about being a free  as in price alternative to Windows.  do you know what I mean?
[16:17] <Akkernight> kitche, is there no terminal command?
[16:18] <kitche> Akkernight: yes apt-get remove <gcc package> hen do the same for mingW
[16:18] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  yes i can see what you mean :)
[16:18] <sipior> Anna_111: these are ext3 filesystems, i imagine?
[16:18] <FortheHorde> I'm having trouble getting my headphone jack to work with Ubuntu. Every time I plug in my headphones the sound still comes through my desktop speakers. Any idea what might be causing it?
[16:18] <Anna_111> sipior, yes ext3 journalistic or whatever they are called
[16:19] <sipior> Anna_111: could you try "sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda6"
[16:19] <Anna_111> sipior: what does that command do?
[16:19] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: http://www.gnu.org philosphey section and then  about free software section :)   and then to confuse things a bit, we got open source software as well http://www.opensource.org    Free Software is about the moral advantages that are gained from the code being open,   open source is  a development model.   Free software as in libre software,  open source as in open code
[16:19] <bn2knowitall> does anybody else have problems with loosing the bars that show the wirless signal every now and the?
[16:21] <bn2knowitall> sometimes I have to type nm-applet --sm-disable in the terminal
[16:22] <lasivian_> Someone gave me a usb bluetooth dongle, but when I plug it in gnome's bluetooth manager does not see it, and lsusb shows a blank for the name. Dmesg says "generic bluetooth usb driver" but I can;t access the device, any ideas? thanks
[16:22] <sipior> Anna_111: it will set the reserved block count of your partition to 0%
[16:22] <L3dPlatedLinux> man I dont like when you install something and then cant figure out how to remove it?
[16:22] <ruediger> hi
[16:22] <Anna_111> sipior: I did that and got the message Setting reserved block percentage to 0% [0 blocks]
[16:22] <bn2knowitall> can anybody see what I type?
[16:22] <L3dPlatedLinux> yes
[16:22] <bn2knowitall> ok lol
[16:22] <sipior> Anna_111: it is customary for filesystems to reserve a certain percentage for admin use, in the event that the disk should fill up, ensuring that root, at least, can always log on and fix the problem.
[16:23] <sipior> Anna_111: now, could you pastebin the result of "df" again?
[16:23] <khakane> could someone help me get sound working in VLC?
[16:23] <noren> hi all
[16:23] <sebsebseb> !sound
[16:23] <Anna_111> of course sipior
[16:23] <L3dPlatedLinux> Any one know how to remove epidermis?
[16:23] <khakane> i dont have a volume ccontrol.. running kubuntu
[16:23] <noren> is there an application to see the distribution of the bandwidth by all the application on my system
[16:23] <Pici> L3dPlatedLinux: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:23] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f358c10cb
[16:23] <bn2knowitall> i have problems sometimes the wireless on my laptop.  sometimes the signal strength bars dissapear and I have to type nm-applet --sm-disable into the terminal
[16:24] <bn2knowitall> is there a reason for that?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[16:24] <sebsebseb> bn2knowitall: wireless can be crappy in Desktop Linux, because of  hardware manufactures that don't suppourt it properly  for Linux or at all
[16:24] <sipior> Anna_111: all right, the usage is below 100%. can you log in now?
[16:24] <noren> khakane: get a volume controler applet
[16:24] <Anna_111> sipior - alt-f7?
[16:24] <sipior> Anna_111: yep
[16:25] <noren> !bandwith
[16:25] <Anna_111> ok sipior
[16:25] <khakane> options arent in the same place for KDE4 asa they are gnome
[16:25] <khakane> sorry
[16:25] <bbkiller> hello ubuntu users! I can connect wireless in the text mode??
[16:25] <khakane> doesnt matter if i have the applet or not (i do)
[16:25] <corey> Something is using a bunch of RAM and I can figure out what it is! Everything except xchat is closed and I am using 920MB and an average of 52% processor usage!
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Firefox maybe?
[16:25] <Anna_111> sipior: you are a magician
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Firefox can do high CPU usage
[16:25] <LjL> L3dPlatedLinux: well, most people try to restrain themselves to only use the ~20000 packages that are available in the official Ubuntu repositories (including ones to change themes), as they know that they're by definition easy to install and remove
[16:25] <bn2knowitall> i was wondering why it would disappear sometimes
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Ubuntu's unoffical version of it
[16:26] <Anna_111> sipior: I can log back in :)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok :)
[16:26] <sipior> Anna_111: good, glad it's working. be sure to remove whatever you don't need there, you don't have a lot of space left :-)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> sipior: she does not have a lot of space where?
[16:26] <Anna_111> sipior: I have no idea what I need and don't need in the /home dir.
[16:27] <sipior> sebsebseb: in /home. only half a gig or so.
[16:27] <L3dPlatedLinux> yes will do that from now on
[16:27] <saisai> I have a Q about uninstalling software. particularly netbeans on Ubuntu.
[16:27] <L3dPlatedLinux>  after I remove this darn thing
[16:27] <sebsebseb> sipior: right, but home should be pretty much blank, only config files
[16:27] <saisai> can ne 1 help?
[16:27] <perscitus> How do you turn off open of Rhythm Box when music player is inserted in hardy?
[16:27] <khakane> so i guess no help eh
[16:27] <Anna_111>  sipior: my /home is almost full and I just started. Is it dynamically possible to free space from / and give it to /home?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> Anna_111:   in the termianl be in home which you will be by default and you can
[16:27] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ls
[16:27] <danes_> how can I change to a directory on terminal mounted with smb://
[16:28] <noren> nothing to analyze my bandwith useage.. Help please
[16:28] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: list the files in home.  and pastebin that
[16:28] <saisai> this chatroom is too crowded
[16:28] <Anna_111> sebsebseb, I know ls. I meant I have no idea which programs I need and which I don't.
[16:28] <sebsebseb> saisai: yeah well that's good
[16:28] <noren> saisai: aask the question
[16:28] <perscitus> How do you turn off open of Rhythm Box when music player is inserted in hardy?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> saisai: ,but you have to wait for someone that knows your issue
[16:28] <corey> sebsebseb: I have no programs running except for xchat
[16:28] <bbkiller> how do connect web wireless on text mode? Help-me
[16:28] <LjL> saisai: it is a bit, but it helps if you just ask your question with all needed detail straight away
[16:28] <saisai> ok my question is I installed netbeans using the terminal
[16:28] <saisai> now I want to uninstall it
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: Rythombox is not that good, I used to use it though untill Banshee became good.
[16:29] <sipior> Anna_111: could you pastebin one more thing for me? "sudo du -s /home" should show where the disk space is going...
[16:29] <oCean_> L3dPlatedLinux: so you used dkpg -i to install it, right
[16:29] <ruediger> is there an (easy) way to install w32codecs (and mplayer32) on ubuntu 8.10/amd64? (i need a codec that's missing in w64codecs!)
[16:29] <saisai> I am trying to do it under add/remove but it can;t find it
[16:29] <khakane> sigh
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: however in Hardy you get a crappy version of Banshee, unless you get the  ppa for it so you get Ibex version
[16:29] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  well duh. i want to take it off.
[16:29] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, saying you installed it using the terminal does not narrow down _How_ you installed it
[16:29] <khakane> sound help in vlc/jaunty
[16:29] <noren> saisai: sudo apt-get remove netbeans
[16:29] <Pici> khakane: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:29] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  ibex is broken and buggy.
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: it's part of ubuntu-desktop, but yeah you can uninstall rhtyombox
[16:29] <danes_> how can I change directory on terminal for a network place? it is mounted on smb://<mynetwork>
[16:29] <michael__> how can i get video out to work on my ati radeon
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: nonsense
[16:30] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: let's find out what is in home
[16:30] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ls  will list stuff, but there's also  tree.  sudo apt-get install tree
[16:30] <saisai> ok I will try the command
[16:31] <LjL> danes_: it can't be "mounted" to smb://anything, because that's not a mountpoint
[16:31] <LjL> !samba > danes_    (danes_, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> when i tried apt-get
[16:31] <sipior> sebsebseb: i've asked her to paste the result of du -s /home
[16:31] <bbkiller> bye! Thanks
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> it turned like this
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> http://pastebin.com/m4373ca98
[16:31] <lasivian_> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:31] <saisai> Also How do I get my newly installed programs to display in the Menu Bar???
[16:31] <sebsebseb> sipior: oh what does that command do?
[16:31] <bn2knowitall> anybody experts in python here?
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> looks like my filesystem has been error
[16:31] <cathy> i just got linux unbuntu but i don't know how to use itunes on it? help plz =)
[16:31] <sipior> sebsebseb: try it out :-)
[16:31] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  nope. Buggy and broken. doesnt run properly on my system
[16:32] <danes_> LjL, is there any way I can access the files of my network hdd using terminal?
[16:32] <oCean_> !itunes | cathy
[16:32] <sebsebseb> sipior: heh it wants me to sudo
[16:32] <wanna_learn_more> !efsck
[16:32] <wanna_learn_more> !fsck
[16:32] <LjL> danes_: yes, but you have to actually mount it. the link i gave you should have instructions for that. anyway short version, "sudo mount //servername/sharename /mnt/whatever -o username=blah"
[16:32] <Anna_111> sipior: I am in /home now and I am seeing only two dirs. both are colored in blue and there is nothing in them
[16:33] <cathy> so can i use a program on add or remove?
[16:33] <sipior> Anna_111: actually, could you try without the -s? just pastebin "sudo du /home"?
[16:33] <danes_> LjL. thanks
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: what do you want to install?
[16:33] <keepsake> !askthebot | wanna_learn_more
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: you want to know how to instlal and remove programs in Ubuntu?
[16:33] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: apt-get needs arguments. like install or update. But then you have to use "sudo" -like "sudo apt-get install name_of_package"
[16:33] <cathy> itunes like program for my ipod
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: oh right
[16:34] <sebsebseb> cathy: itunes itself you can't do in Ubuntu, but there is an alternative
[16:34] <sebsebseb> cathy: well you can do itunes if you run WIndows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine
[16:34] <Ronald_> my ubuntu install doesn't have an admin group... How do I add that?
[16:34] <saisai> how do I get programs to display on menu bar? When I installed netbeans it created a desktop icon but I want it to be added on my menu bar?
[16:34] <LjL> saisai: ... it created a desktop icon?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy:  http://www.osalt.com mentions an Itunes alternative, also this is a useful similar kind of site http://www.linuxeq.com
[16:35] <saisai> yes
[16:35] <LjL> saisai: just how did you install it?
[16:35] <cathy> does only itunes work with ipods?
[16:35] <keepsake> saisai: Right-click on the menu and choose "Edit Menus", then add a shortcut.
[16:35] <cathy> ty
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy: no Banshee can sync  an ipod
[16:35] <lasivian> exit
[16:35] <wanna_learn_more> can i install any kernel-devel for intrepid?
[16:35] <Anna_111> sipior: I think I know what happened. These are mostly my mp3 files from the C drive of win XP looks like Ubuntu install imported them instead of pointing to them. Else I have no other explanation
[16:35] <LjL> !elaborate | wanna_learn_more
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy: by the way you get most software from Ubuntu's  servers :)   ,but then for stuff you want that isn't in there, you get from a trusted source
[16:36] <noren> saisai: did u use wine to install
[16:36] <sebsebseb> cathy: Ubuntu is not like WIndows where you got to go on websites to get programs, or   put in a CD or what have you
[16:36] <saisai> no not wine
[16:36] <keepsake> saisai: Do the Edit Menus thing.
[16:36] <saisai> I downloaded the binary files
[16:36] <sipior> Anna_111: yeah, could be. the installer being "annoyingly helpful", i'm afraid :-)
[16:36] <cathy> yep
[16:36] <saisai> and used the ./ command
[16:36] <LjL> saisai: terrible idea. netbeans is in the repositories, so why did you do that?
[16:36] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:36] <saisai> i didnt know...
[16:36] <LjL> !packages | saisai
[16:37] <saisai> but the repository didnt have the latest netbeans
[16:37] <arvind_khadri> !latest | saisai
[16:37] <Gnea> !ipod | cathy
[16:37] <beli> is installing from source an awkward way? *G*
[16:37] <LjL> beli: yes
[16:37] <keepsake> saisai: Installing from source is absolutely fine.
[16:37] <sebsebseb> !RockBox
[16:37] <cathy> ty =)
[16:37] <jharkn> ./ isn't a command it's a location ("." means the current directory)
[16:37] <LjL> keepsake: not if the package is in the repositories, no
[16:37] <Anna_111> sipior, I guess that's what happened. Now, if I delete these will they be deleted from my C disk because I can see the C drive files in Ubuntu?
[16:37] <beli> LjL: hmm, and what to do if you need special compile time options?
[16:37] <keepsake> LjL: Installing from source is perfectly normal, and is used when you need a newer version or a custom build.
[16:38] <LjL> beli: if you *really* need such things, then you probably know what you're doing, in which case you'll use your best judgment
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: I would recommend Banshee as your music player in Ubuntu.
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: it can also do video and theres VLC as well for that
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: your on 8.10?
[16:38] <gRunt> Hi all is there any way in linux to find out what my motherboard and sata is? I want to install my windowsXP disc on dual boot but I keep getting errors as I don't have chipset and sata drivers so I need to be able to integrate some....any ideas where to look?
[16:38] <LjL> keepsake: then if the stuff you installed is actually a dependency of something else, at best you may have version conflicts, and at worst (i.e. if you were silly enough to install in /usr) you'll have APT stop working.
[16:38] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Ideally though, mplayer or a GUI version of it.
[16:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: why?
[16:39] <beli> LjL: cant be for real....ubuntu is linux and you should be able to compile userspace programs NOT in the repository without beeing called "doing awkward things" ;)
[16:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: More compatibility all-around.
[16:39] <saisai> Anyways I tried the "right click " edit menus but I dont know how to find the netbeans program. I want to add it to my menu bar.
[16:39] <Anna_111> sipior: what's the ls command that spans all file systems and dirs to look for metacharacters like *.mp3
[16:39] <sipior> Anna_111: as long as you're sure that you're deleting from the correct partition, you should be fine. might be worth making sure you have a backup if it's a big issue
[16:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah maybe, but Banshee is still  :)
[16:39] <keepsake> saisai: Right-click the icon on your desktop
[16:39] <keepsake> saisai: Find properties, then look at the COMMAND
[16:39] <LjL> beli: if it's not in the repositories, then i find compiling it quite acceptable
[16:39] <gRunt> Hi all is there any way in linux to find out what my motherboard and sata is? I want to install my windowsXP disc on dual boot but I keep getting errors as I don't have chipset and sata drivers so I need to be able to integrate some....any ideas where to look?
[16:40] <keepsake> saisai: Copy/paste that as the command of a "New Item" in Edit Menus.
[16:40] <sipior> Anna_111: "find . -name *.mp3 -print"
[16:40] <cathy> ubottu: i am thinking of getting the new ipod shuffle will this work with it? "Ubuntu works very well with iPods, except the iPod Touch, iPhone, and any other future generation" =)
[16:40] <beli> LjL: thanks :) and building a package for it....better than doing make install ;)
[16:40] <saisai> ok makes sense now :)
[16:40] <saisai> cool thanks guys
[16:40] <LjL> beli: that is definitely the best thing to do.
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, joy?
[16:40] <sipior> Anna_111: or "find / -name *.mp3 -print", but that will likely take a while
[16:41] <cathy> lol i was trying to takl to a bot
[16:41] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL whatever happened to the "how to install anything in ubuntu" factoid?
[16:41] <LjL> !software > Paddy_EIRE    (Paddy_EIRE, see the private message from ubottu) this one...?
[16:41] <sebsebseb> cathy: Windows virtual machine can probably work nicely with your ipod as well
[16:41] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[16:42] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL cheers mate
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: ,but  that should be a last resort,
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: before using a psyical Windows install
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: yes you can have WIndows inside Ubuntu
[16:42] <Gnea> cathy: probably depends what generation it is
[16:43] <wanna_learn_more> how to configure my kernel?i must install kernels-headers first?
[16:43] <cathy> anyone have the new ipod shuffle 3rd gen?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: configure it why?
[16:43]  * Gnea does not own an ipod, but an lg that supports ogg vorbis
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: the kernel is pretty much set up by default
[16:44] <Anna_111> sipor: thanks
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Gnea:  :D  cool  altough not to sure what Lg is, but anyway  ogg vorbis :)
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:enable ath5k on wireless section
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: oh athros drivers
[16:44] <sebsebseb> !madwifi
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:not madwifi
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:but ath5k
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: ok well I don't know
[16:45] <beli> LjL: are ubuntu packages done with deb-tools?
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, oh the shuffle.. no sorry not here
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:how bout ncurses packages/
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurses-devel
[16:45] <beli> LjL: or is there a different methode?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: don't know about that either
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurses
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurse
[16:45] <beli> !curses
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, I will have a look.. what is the model number on the back of it.. it should say something like a1236
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> anyone know it?
[16:45] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: what's the problem ?
[16:46] <beli> wanna_learn_more: what do you want to know about ncurses?
[16:46] <LjL> !packaging > beli    (beli, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:46] <beli> LjL: thanks
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> http://pastebin.com/m66306c65
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:http://pastebin.com/m66306c65
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i want it for configure kernel-header
[16:46] <beli> LjL: btw. i got privmsg twice from the bot
[16:46] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: what ar eyou trying to do ?
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: and why
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:when i type make menuconfig it asked me to install ncurses
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: yes, why are you trying to build a kernel
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:to enable ath5k
[16:47] <riwa> I'm trying to configure Nvidia to use twinview. It autoconfigured pretty good except that only a part of the window is viewed. How can I make the whole thing visible?
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: you don't need to recompile I kernel for that
[16:47] <cathy> Paddy_EIRE i don't have one now but thinking off getting one but i wana no if it works with unbuntu
[16:47] <LjL> beli: yes, but it should have been two different messages - the second one being about a much more quick-and-dirty method to make packages
[16:47] <beli> LjL: ah, i use checkinstall on slackware...
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: I believe thats just a module
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:so how??
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:now i am using server without any gui
[16:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, oh.. I use the previous nano to the new one
[16:48] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok - so it's just a kernel module isn't it ?
[16:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, I would need to know the model number
[16:48] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[16:48] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:take a look
[16:49] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i believe networking and wireless exist at kernel configuration
[16:49] <stabbyjoe12> hi guys does anyone know a decent tutorial to install window live messenger , dont sya use pidgin etc
[16:49] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: lol Windohs Live Messenger
[16:49] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: heh ok uhmmmm
[16:49] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: yes, thats right they do, but you don't need to recompile a kernel to change / use a module
[16:49] <tim_> slayer98
[16:49] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, windows live messenger is for windows... simple as that
[16:50] <cathy> Paddy_EIRE: where do i get that from?
[16:50] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: that's one of the worst programs ever :)   ,but it really does help to lock stupid people into Windows.   I use pidgin when I am on windows
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12:   AMSN has web cam suppourt etc etc.   Kmess is nice as well
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> i dont like them
[16:51] <eseven73> bah instant messangers, who needs them, IRC FTW! :)
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, empathy is also great
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> they all annoy me i like wlm i find its useful
[16:51] <keepsake> stabbyjoe12: Have you tried amsn?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: how old are you?
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> yep
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, well you are out of luck
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> ive tryed them alllll trust me
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> and WLM is just an advertisement app
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: how old are you?
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> 22 y?
[16:52] <jharkn> even emesene? ;)
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: oh  thought you would be a bit younger
[16:52] <corey> can I run fileserver software on my desktop computer?
[16:52] <sky_> hi i create a ext3 partition but i cant copy there my data
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> yeah emesene has a problem with the .live accounts doesnt let you log in
[16:52] <keepsake> jharkn: emesene is good, but lacks a lot of features
[16:52] <Gnea> sebsebseb: LG is a company that makes hardware and other peripherals, such as mp3 players, cd/dvd drives, dvd players, TVs, etc :)
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: I mean it's stupid people that are locked into  WIndows LIve Messenger mainly.  however if you really must have it in Ubuntu, there is a way
[16:52] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, try empathy
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> i no there is
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> and ive tryed it
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> im half way there
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: however the only way your going to get WIndows LIve Messenger is by running Windows inside Ubuntu
[16:52] <sipior> sky_: have you mounted the partition somewhere?
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: I belive Wine and all that will fail with it
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> no
[16:53] <jharkn> keepsake: yeah true
[16:53] <sky_> yes
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, no what?
[16:53] <beli> sky_: what does "can't copy" mean? any error?
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> there is a few ways of doing it
[16:53] <sky_> sipior: mounted
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: no there is not
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, no there is not
[16:53] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i will sleeep now already midnite
[16:53] <cathy> will wine work with itunes?
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> il be abck at some point to prove that
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Paddy_EIRE: heh we both say same thing at the same time :)
[16:53] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:can u pm me for solution???very2 please
[16:53] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: I'll put something up on the forum
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> sebsebseb, :)
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> no wine doesnt eork with itunes i tunes has a serious kernal conflict
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: live messenger to then itunes?  there are itunes alternatives
[16:54] <yeason> I recently installed 9.04 and I cannot connect to my network. It appears to be working but when it sends a DHCP request it just times out without getting a response. I also do not seem to be able to set static ips. Any suggestions?
[16:54] <sky_> bell: well is in my native language but i try to translate it : you cant copy it because you dont have permissions to create it here
[16:54] <ikonia> !jaunty > yeason
[16:54] <sipior> sky_: you'll want to make a directory inside that newly-mounted volume, and make yourself the owner of it.
[16:54] <stabbyjoe12> sebsebseb i no and the itunes alternatives are fine
[16:54] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12:  if you want certain Windows shit such as WIndows Live Messenger and Itunes,  your going to  need to run them in Windows.  or if it's an Itunes you could run it on a Mac of course
[16:54] <sky_> sipior: yes :)
[16:54] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please control your language
[16:54] <beli> sky_: so you mounted it for wrong uid/gid
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:just at pm
[16:54] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok
[16:54] <sebsebseb> ikonia: uh yeah
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:or give me links to the forum pliz ^^
[16:54] <beli> sky_: check man mount  and section ext3
[16:54] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please.
[16:54] <stabbyjoe12> i dont want to run itunes lol
[16:54] <yeason> ubottu: cool, thnx =)
[16:54] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok
[16:54] <beli> sky_: and read about howto provide mount options for uid and gid
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:but still at pm because the chat is very2 long,thanks all GBU ^^
[16:55] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: if you must have WIndows Live Messenger,  then you will need Windows for it, it's as simple as that
[16:55] <sipior> sky_: yes, meaning you've already done so?
[16:55] <sky_> sssssss
[16:55] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok
[16:55] <sky_> yea
[16:55] <stabbyjoe12> sebsebseb no its not that kind of attitude will never progress an os
[16:55] <sky_> i already restarted PC
[16:55] <stabbyjoe12> think out of the box:)
[16:55] <beli> sky_: you dont need to restart...read what i told you before
[16:55] <sky_> oh yea and before there was Windows Vista
[16:55] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, I can with absolute certainty tell you that WLM will not run on linux at all... unless you use a vm
[16:55] <pvtpete> hi.. back
[16:55] <sky_> beli: i tested if dont destroy my grub
[16:55] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: do you think Microsoft care about making  Desktop Linux popular or any other OS?  of course not, hence why they make sure that later versions of WIndows LIve Messenger only work  properly  on  Windows
[16:56] <keepsake> stabbyjoe12: WLM does not work in Wine yet. Use amsn, an alternative, or run a VM to get WLM.
[16:56] <pvtpete> HD's partially solved now. I can't seem to see the ubuntu machine from my mac now
[16:56] <macman> there anyway to rename my paritions ? i have /dev/sda1 as ext3 /dev/dsa4 as extended / dev/sda5 as swap .. can i make /dev/sda1 as ext3 /dev/sda2 as extended and /dev/sda3 as linux-swap ? currently im in gparted looking at my paritiion
[16:56] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah I basically already told him that :)
[16:56] <sky_> beli: mount man ?
[16:56] <beli> sky_: open a terminal window and enter: man mount
[16:56] <beli> sky_: and search for the ext3 section
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wlm is awful anyway.. just a big kiddy looking app with ads on it
[16:57] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: it's amazing the amount of  ignorant computer users,  that rely so much on Windows Live Messenger, even though the alternatives are pretty good as well
[16:57] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: For WLM, there was a-patch that removed ads.
[16:57] <{g}> Hey People! How do I check which version of Ubuntu im using?
[16:57] <adac> Sorry for offtopic. Someone knows if there is a truecrypt channel out there?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, yeah it breaks on update
[16:57] <visf> hi have idea why some dvd i have can be mount and some can't and follow by a message?
[16:57] <sipior> macman: if you've just the two, you don't need an extended partition.
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, need to reapply each time
[16:57] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: a-patch is updated pretty frequently though.
[16:57] <sky_> beli: how search ? some hotkeys for searching ? :X
[16:57] <cathy> why do people use windows?
[16:57] <ikonia> adac: if you know it's offtopic - please don't ask
[16:58] <keepsake> {g}: uname -r
[16:58] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:58] <ikonia> cathy: it's a good option for people - this is ubuntu support discussion only please.
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, I would rather keep away from it.. it looks very child like in its appearance
[16:58] <keepsake> {g}: or uname -a for more info
[16:58] <sipior> macman: although please consider a separate partition for /home. it can be quite handy to have your personal data on a separate partition from the system proper.
[16:58] <beli> sky_: depends...try /
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> like toys r us or somthing
[16:58] <hemicro> I have some boot problems and can't find the answer on the forums.
[16:58] <sebsebseb> cathy: computer ignorance that's why,  plus most of them have been using it  since hte 90's and as someone  said in IRC the other day (or something like it):  using Windows after 10  years really does cripple certain people
[16:58] <adac> ikonia, well I would ask in truecrpt channel if I would find one :P+
[16:58] <{g}> keepsake: 2.6.20-16-generic
[16:58] <{g}> whats that?
[16:58] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: Well, if you have certain features you want, e.g. video call, you're going to need WLM.
[16:58] <ikonia> {g}: a very old kernel
[16:59] <Gnea> cathy: the same reason that people drink coke or pepsi
[16:59] <keepsake> {g}: Ah, version of Ubuntu.
[16:59] <keepsake> {g}: Sorry, I misread, run "lsb_release -a"
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, not really.. only if you want to use an msn/hotmail/live account to do so
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> there are many ways
[17:00] <saisai> Uninstalling netbeans. Ok some1 told me to use the command: "sudo apt-get remove netbeans" My problem is, I have netbeans IDE 6.5 and netbeans IDE 6.5.1 installed. They are two completely different packages that I downloaded online. I want to uninstall netbeans IDE 6.5 so I tried using the command "sudo apt-get remove netbeans IDE 6.5" but the terminal reports "Couldn't find package netbeans" help please.
[17:00] <cathy> at school we do ict and we don't get told about other os like linux
[17:00] <{g}> Ubuntu 7.04
[17:00] <ikonia> cathy: this is offtopic for this channel
[17:00] <ikonia> cathy: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only please.
[17:00] <beli> sky_: whats the device name of your ext3 partition?
[17:00] <sky_> beli: can you explain me how i can set owner of this partition to me ? my english is not good :X
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, detail how you installed them so we can tell you how to uninstall them
[17:01] <sky_> beli: mmmm sda1 ?
[17:01] <{g}> im trying to install "apt-get install sshpass", but ubuntu tells me:
[17:01] <cathy> ikonia:sorry
[17:01] <{g}> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main libssl0.9.8 0.9.8c-4ubuntu0.3 404 Not Found
[17:01] <ikonia> cathy: not a problem
[17:01] <{g}> do i have to update the repositories or something?
[17:01] <beli> sky_: mount | grep sda1  ....tell me result
[17:02] <cathy> but why don't people get told about linux at schools?
[17:02] <keepsake> cathy: Linux is a relatively hard system to use (compared to Windows)
[17:02] <slipstenen> keepsake: no
[17:02] <keepsake> cathy: And there are program compatibility issues.
[17:02] <sky_> beli: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[17:02] <{g}> "apt-get update" doesnt work either.
[17:02] <Zeroyez> i have 2 folders named conf and conf-backup, how can i merge them, they're both in the same directory
[17:02] <Myrtti> keepsake: in *your* opinion
[17:02] <slipstenen> keepsake: compability issues with what
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh ???
[17:03] <v0lksman> I have an addon for swiftdove that won't stay installed after restart.  when I install it asks to restart and the addon works...but if I close swiftdove after that and restart it the addon doesn't work (it still appears in the list of addons).  Is there anyway to fix this without killing the whole profile?
[17:03] <{g}> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:03] <oCean_> !feisty | {g}
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ???????
[17:03] <slipstenen> Myrtti: +1
[17:03] <beli> sky_: and what is your uid and gid (check with the command: id)
[17:03] <sky_> keepsake,cathy,slipstenen : please this is support channel move your discussion to offtopic
[17:03] <keepsake> slipstenen: Various Windows programs.
[17:03] <oCean_> {g}: You have to upgrade, or install newer version
[17:03] <{g}> oCean_: "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[17:03] <sky_> beli: ee how ?
[17:03] <slipstenen> sky_: is that #non-ubuntu ?
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ??????? thankss
[17:04] <beli> sky_: type: id
[17:04] <keepsake> !offtopic
[17:04] <sky_> slipstenen: #offtopic
[17:04] <oCean_> {g}: unfortunately, It's not that easy
[17:04] <cathy> sky_: sorry but this is about unbuntu linux
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: it is not
[17:04] <slipstenen> !offtopic
[17:04] <sky_> cathy: read motd
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: asking why you're school doesn't teach you about linux is nothing about ubuntu or support
[17:04] <Zeroyez> z3dd: find / -name nameoffile
[17:04] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: I've asked you twice now to focus on the channels topic
[17:04] <macman> i want to change what loads on /dev/sda3 /dev/sda1 and /sda1
[17:04] <macman> there a way
[17:04] <sky_> cathy: you can use #offtopic #linux
[17:05] <Myrtti> cathy: or even #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <eseven73> my sound keeps dying out, it works for a  bit then it stops, the only the only sound im hearing is when I log out it makes a short drum roll
[17:05] <beli> macman: cat /etc/fstab
[17:05] <cathy> ikonia: sorry
[17:05] <sky_> beli: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[17:05] <riwa> to restart x; can I simply log in/out?
[17:05] <sky_> beli: bad copy :D
[17:05] <macman> beli: nothing really in fstab
[17:05] <cathy> sky_:sorry
[17:05] <sky_> beli: uid=1000(sky) gid=1000(sky) skupiny=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sky)
[17:05] <macman> beli: i can send you a screenshot
[17:05] <oCean_> {g}: from feisty, you have to go through gutsy first.. it's a long way to intrepid release. See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:05] <cathy> Myrtti:sorry
[17:05] <beli> macman: nah...then its using some kinda hotplug
[17:05] <sky_> is here ubottu ? :D
[17:05] <riwa> Must I restart the computer the restart X or is there a faster way?
[17:05] <sipior> riwa: not really, unfortunately. you can restart X with "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[17:06] <ikonia> riwa: ctral+alt+backspace
[17:06] <beli> sky_: sudo chown -R sky:sky /media/disk
[17:06] <beli> sky_: take care you type it correctly!
[17:06] <riwa> But is that a good way of doing it after you've updated your xorg.conf?
[17:06] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, well?
[17:06] <qwe_> Hello. I put my phone with a mem card in USB, but it doesn't mount it (it used to). The 'fdisk -l' doesn't list it, but the 'lsusb' does. What should I do? (After I put it in, my cpu I/O is to the max).
[17:06] <sipior> riwa: sure. you've got the old conf file as a backup, right?
[17:06] <ikonia> riwa: yes
[17:06] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ??????? thankss the command i got earlyer dosent work...
[17:06] <ikonia> z3dd: find or locate
[17:06] <sky_> beli: thank you very much :) it works :)
[17:07] <beli> sky_: yw
[17:07] <Tobbe> My install of ubuntu worked fine but when I boot my computer I get Grub Error 17. I've entered a linux environment and has mounted my linux partition so I can read fstab and /grub/menu.lst but I have no idea what the error is
[17:07] <saisai> paddy: I downloaded the installer files from netbeans website. I first installed netbeans IDE 6.5 from the terminal. "chmod -x ./netbeans6.5-installer" then "./netbeans6.5-installer" so it worked but this version only supported java, I wanted PHP so I downloaded the netbeans installer for PHP.  it ended up installing a completely new netbeans IDE 6.5.1. So I want to uninstall netbeans IDE 6.5, but if I type in the command "sudo apt-get remove
[17:07] <Dreamglider> can i do anything to speed up the system when it comes out of screensaver, when i enter the screensaver pswd, it sits there for about 5 seconds and every time it spins up the CD drive before unlocking the screensaver
[17:07] <z3dd> ikonia: find where is on what location...
[17:07] <riwa> sipior: Nah.. Used a program to gen it.
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: yes
[17:07] <z3dd> i want find the filename     "example"
[17:07] <z3dd> the folder "example"
[17:07] <sipior> riwa: if you had a working configuration before, make sure you have a backup somewhere, believe me!
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: find / -name $filename -print
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: man find
[17:07] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, ah ok... so if you go back into the directory you installed netbeans and look to see if there is an uninstaller
[17:08] <riwa> sipior: I know.. But it'sto late...
[17:08] <saisai> ah good idea
[17:08] <sky_> !italy
[17:08] <sky_> Figo: #ubuntu-it
[17:08] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, that was how I would do it
[17:08] <riwa> sipior: If it gets messed up I can just generate  a new one I hope.
[17:09] <{g}> oCean_: im not interested in gutsy.. i just want sshpass
[17:09] <cathy> why is ubuntu free?=)
[17:09] <Paddy_EIRE> why not
[17:09] <sipior> cathy: pushing your luck...
[17:09] <macman> http://i43.tinypic.com/141tmaf.png < ---
[17:09] <Paddy_EIRE> heh
[17:09] <Arkenklo> /disco tiem!
[17:09] <Arkenklo> /disco /disco good good
[17:09] <Tobbe> Can someone help me solve Grub Error 17?
[17:10] <beli> Tobbe: google maybe
[17:10] <keepsake> Tobbe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[17:10] <cathy> hello :)
[17:10] <ikonia> cathy: please follow the topic this time
[17:11] <Tobbe> keepsake: That won't really help me though, will it? It's a dualboot system, I need the grub menu
[17:11] <cathy> ikonia: ok are you a bot?
[17:11] <ikonia> cathy: you know I'm not
[17:11] <oCean_> {g}: yeah, well.. you can't use the feisty repos. That release is too old, and no longer supported
[17:11] <cathy> ikonia: i don't know you sound like one :p
[17:11] <pvtpete> would anyone be gracious enough to help me with a vnc / networking issue between my mac and ubuntu. I can't see it from my mac over the network :)
[17:11] <beli> Tobbe: what did you do before error 17 came up?
[17:11] <dingleberry> Seriously, does anyone have any sorta of issue to ubuntu flash
[17:11] <sipior> cathy: seriously, getting rather tedious
[17:12] <Tobbe> beli: Installed ubuntu from a USB stick
[17:12] <{g}> oCean_: yes, thats the problem
[17:12] <ikonia> cathy: just follow the topic of the channel - ubuntu support
[17:12] <keepsake> Tobbe: Try it and see if it works, it's just a quick solution I found via Google.
[17:12] <beli> Tobbe: so it hasnt been working before...hmm ok
[17:12] <Tobbe> beli: Exactly. I'm guessing there is some error in either fstab or menu.lst, but I'm not skilled enough to see what the problem is
[17:12] <sky_> cathy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:12] <{g}> oCean_: will a "apt-get dist-upgrade" do nothing?
[17:13] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:13] <beli> Tobbe: or just in the grub config, right...
[17:13] <cathy> sky_: don't be rude
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !pm | lupin
[17:13] <saisai> paddy: yes there is an uninstall.sh  thanks a lot. I was too single-minded thinking I had to do everything on the terminal
[17:13] <slipstenen> Tobbe: is it win/ubuntu ?
[17:13] <sky_> cathy: i am not :)
[17:13] <funkyHat> Why does this page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/ only show DVD images?
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> stop randomly pm'ing lupin :)
[17:13] <slipstenen> starta din dator med windows skiva i och välj recoverconsole och skriv sedan fixmbr
[17:13] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Yes
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, :)
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, easy done
[17:14] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Men tar inte det bort min grub?
[17:14] <beli> Tobbe: on bootup...you can press ESC key to make grub halt for input....you can edit entries with the 'e' key....verify the settings....google if you dont understand each..or ask here again....
[17:14] <slipstenen> Tobbe: hmm... dunno
[17:14] <beli> Tobbe: another nice tool might be supergrub
[17:14] <{g}> oCean_: maybe i can simply put sshpass in /usr/bin/ ?
[17:14] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:14] <slipstenen> Tobbe: no
[17:14] <Pici> !sv | slipstenen
[17:14] <sky_> cathy: just join to #ubuntu-offtopic and we can discuss there
[17:15] <slipstenen> Pici: sorry, i pressed enter before translation
[17:15] <beli> Tobbe: but i guess you are new to linux and the really most important thing to learn at the beggining is: learn to read, learn and understand. sounds common, but its really essential with linux
[17:15] <cathy> sky_: are you trying to say you don't want be to be here :(
[17:16] <sebsebseb> !rules | cathy
[17:16] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, you need to follow the topic or leave
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cathy: uh wrong one
[17:16] <slipstenen> Tobbe: but if it is problem with the actual grub the easy way way would be to rebuild the grub.
[17:16] <Tobbe> beli: Actually, I've used Linux for several years :/ Never had Ubuntus autoinstall of grub fail on me though
[17:16] <unr3a1> cathy: what sky is saying is that this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY.  if you want to discuss erroneous subjects do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cathy: yeah it's meant to just be Ubuntu stuff in here
[17:17] <cathy> :(
[17:17] <oCean_> {g}: well, you have to find it first, one that matches your old version, and all matching dependencies too.
[17:17] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:17] <slipstenen> Tobbe: the error 17 is "file not found" or similar.
[17:17] <cathy> you did not help me with my problem
[17:17] <beli> Tobbe: ok :)
[17:17] <ikonia> cathy: what is you're problem you need help with
[17:17] <beli> Tobbe: so why not learn grub :)
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: what is your problem?   I missed stuff, I just had a look here agian
[17:18] <sky_> !ask
[17:18] <fiber_cut> In a asus eeepc running the basic ubuntu is there a way to get a shell
[17:18] <cathy> ikonia: how do i get my ipod working on ubuntu
[17:18] <ikonia> fiber_cut: same was as ubuntu
[17:18] <{g}> oCean_: i just copied one from another machine, and it works.
[17:18] <Tobbe> beli: To be honest, I'm just not all that comfortable playing around the booting etc. I'm so used to it just working and I really don't want to risk anything
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: oh the ipod stuff still
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: well first of all it would help to be on Ubuntu :)
[17:18] <oCean_> {g}: ok!
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: when I looked at your hostname it said  Opera on Windows
[17:18] <cathy> fiber_cut: yes i have one too
[17:18] <ikonia> cathy: well, thats a big question, some people use alternatives like amarok others use itunes in wine, it's a real personal preference thing
[17:19] <fiber_cut> I cant figure it out, I use the desktop cersion at home and there is the link in the menu but I cant find one or even a shortcut
[17:19] <ikonia> !ipod
[17:19] <sky_> !iTunes
[17:19] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:19] <ikonia> cathy: have a look through the links ubottu has just sent you, see which one you like th emost
[17:19] <ikonia> the most
[17:19] <beli> Tobbe: the risk to do sth. wrong it there, if you dont read and understand...
[17:19] <sebsebseb> cathy: do you even have Ubuntu installed yet?
[17:20] <beli> Tobbe: someone here could tell you to user \rm -rf /& to fix it.....and then?
[17:20] <fiber_cut> someone told me alt-f2 but that doesnt work
[17:20] <beli> Tobbe: but take a look at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[17:20] <cathy> i don't have oprea on my laptop and yes i do have ubuntu
[17:20] <cathy> on my laptop
[17:20] <ikonia> cathy: have a scan through the links ubottu sent you
[17:20] <r0tty> anyone know how to get the new notification system woking on 9.04
[17:20] <Pici> r0tty: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[17:20] <ikonia> cathy: see if any of them look interesting to you
[17:20] <Tobbe> beli: Well, I'm not stupid :) I wouldn't just input anything someone told me without checking out what their instructions meant
[17:20] <ikonia> !jaunty > r0tty
[17:20] <beli> fiber_cut: crtrl+alt+f2
[17:20] <sebsebseb> cathy: [17:20] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from cathy: Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en).
[17:20] <sebsebseb> cathy: why does it tell me that?
[17:20] <sky_> cathy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[17:21] <fiber_cut> Beli: Thank you
[17:21] <slipstenen> Tobbe: Ultimate Boot CD has the Super Grub tool that can recover the grub for you. Maybe an option?
[17:21] <sky_> cathy: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[17:21] <HentaiDebian> sebsebseb, maybe using another computer, give the user beneift of doubt
[17:21] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Hmm, I'll look into it
[17:21] <sebsebseb> HentaiDebian: that could be it sure
[17:21] <fiber_cut> One more question can I install it onto a SD card and boot? The install goes fine but when it reboots it just sits there. Is it installing grub into the wrong place?
[17:21] <cathy> sebsebseb: because i don't have oprea on my laptop
[17:21] <sky_> sebsebseb: dont confuse him :D
[17:21] <sebsebseb> cathy: you can have Opera in Ubuntu as well by the way
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> opera ftw
[17:22] <sebsebseb> sky_: I thought it was a she?  cathy is a woamns name
[17:22] <HentaiDebian> guess cathy has no idea you can use things other then opera to use irc
[17:22] <sky_> oooh
[17:22] <sky_> she :D
[17:22] <beli> Tobbe: then try the supergrub linke i gave you before
[17:22] <sebsebseb> sky_: I don't know if they are a she or he
[17:22] <Pici> This is a support channel, lets keep it on topic please.
[17:22] <Tobbe> beli: I guess I can try putting supergrub on my USB and see if it helps
[17:22] <cathy> sebsebseb: i know but it will take up too much space (its a eee pc)
[17:22] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: Linux programs don't  take up that much space
[17:23] <ikonia> Lasivian: if dmesg and lsusb don't see it - it's not supported hardware
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: looks fine
[17:23] <cathy> i am a she :(
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ah
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> no bluetooth in lsusb = bad
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: you are?
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: why :(
[17:23] <beli> Tobbe: you need to use it from a bootable device...but just read ;)
[17:23] <cathy> why do people think ai am a him?
[17:23] <ikonia> sebsebseb: stop it please
[17:24] <Tobbe> beli: I know, I installed linux from the USB stick so
[17:24] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: I thought that was a good thing. ;)
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: don't worry - lets just go back to ubuntu support discussion
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Pici: indeed  trying to keep things on topic, can be difficult at times though
[17:24] <cathy> sebsebseb: because people think i have a pennis
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: STOP
[17:24] <sebsebseb> cathy:  lol ok  let's be on topic :)
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: you won't be asked again
[17:24] <regeya> !offtopic > cathy
[17:24] <fiber_cut> Has anyone tried to install ubuntu onto a SD card and run it from there?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: try: sudo modprobe bluetooth
[17:24] <Nalf> fiber_cut, yes.
[17:24] <cathy> lol
[17:24] <sebsebseb> cathy: yeah be careful some of the ops here ban people easilly or kick them out easilley
[17:24] <ikonia> fiber_cut: yes
[17:24] <fiber_cut> How did you get it to boot mine will not it installs fine but jsut hangs on reboot
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: and: sudo modprobe btusb
[17:25] <Nalf> fiber_cut, just use the live.
[17:25] <gabbsmo> I am attempting to create a .desktop file to start Spotify under wine. When I copy-paste my Exec-value into the terminal it works. But when I luanch the shortcut I get "command does not excist"
[17:25] <cathy> ok sorry people
[17:25] <Eckoie> bios fiber_cut?
[17:25] <Nalf> fiber_cut, or install it persistently. http://pendrivelinux.com I believe.
[17:25] <fiber_cut> yeah I changed it to boot from SD but I just get blinking curser thats it
[17:25] <hemicro> I have a boot problem. The computer locks up as soon as the Ubuntu progress bar is done  and the screen should come up. The screen goes dark and locks.
[17:26] <ZoneMikel> anyone know where i can go for tech support for ubuntu, specifically using radeon cards with it
[17:26] <Nalf> hemicro, can you hit ctrl+alt+backspace?
[17:26] <aclonedsheep> Is there a way to restore my ubuntu partition if a windows install wiped it out?  I didn't format,,, i dunno what fdisk isnt showing my linux partition now
[17:26] <sebsebseb> cathy: loads of options for ipod.   we have already given you some.   ,but  your still asking what to do with ipod hum
[17:26] <sebsebseb> cathy: you don't know how to install programs in Ubuntu?
[17:26] <void_false> how can I teach xarchiver to open pdf files in xpdf and not in firefox?
[17:26] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, reinstall grub.
[17:26] <fiber_cut> Oh that link is awsome thanks
[17:26] <hemicro> Nalf the keyboard is locked also
[17:26] <Nalf> fiber_cut, good job.
[17:27] <corey> Is there a website dedicated to linux for the laptop?
[17:27] <sebsebseb> !laptop
[17:27] <ikonia> corey: use google -
[17:27] <aclonedsheep> nalf im trying to install it per the directions on the ubuntu site but it says t o fidn your partition in fdisk and mine isnt showing up
[17:27] <Paddy_EIRE> thanks Pici I was being tortured
[17:27] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: nothing
[17:27] <Nalf> hemicro, you can't even ctrlt+alt+f2 or alt+f2.. whatever the command is.
[17:27] <corey> ikonia: try to be helpful
[17:27] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, that's not a good sign.
[17:27] <Lasivian> ikonia: it's seen when I plug it in, but it gives errors in dmesg and no name in lsusb
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: thats good, try lsusb again
[17:27] <ikonia> corey: try to ask ontopic question
[17:27] <cathy>  sebsebseb: i use add or remove  '<
[17:27] <ZoneMikel> anytime i touch anything in "catalyst crap center" it makes the machine unusable, it will boot but by the time it gets to the login screen it freezes
[17:27] <beli> cathy: with all my respect...wth dont you go and read the ubuntu howtos and stuff? you cant await to use a car the first time and drive like michael schumacher......he learned it! and now go and learn the basics yourself!
[17:27] <void_false> how can I teach xarchiver to open pdf files in xpdf and not in firefox?
[17:28] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, unfortunately you're going to have to probe someone else who is better with that stuff. I am rather lacking in that area.
[17:28] <corey> ikonia; sorry I cant understand your dialect
[17:28] <sebsebseb> cathy: ok  that proves it you don't really know how to install software?   if you want let's pm,  and I can help you with all that, and  we can be off topic :D   without ops complaining at us
[17:28] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: same thing, no name shown
[17:28] <Eckoie> take it for lessons void_false
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> void_false: are pdfs associated with xpdf
[17:28] <aclonedsheep> lol
[17:28] <ikonia> corey: please ask ontopic questions, this channel is for ubuntu support - not generic linux
[17:28] <aclonedsheep> np
[17:28] <void_false> yes.
[17:28] <corey> ikonia; sorry I cant understand your dialect
[17:28] <Nalf> !offtopic
[17:28] <hemicro> Nalf, no the system is locked up. I believe it may have something to do with the nVidia card, but there are not indication. I have 2 kernals available and if I alternate their use on startup it will startup ok.
[17:29] <timbooka> hello all... I just got myself a new acer aspire 4520 ubuntu is installed & all updates have been performed. The problem is that I can't get to use the built in wireless hardware
[17:29] <cathy> sebsebseb:? how?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: you got a tab open with my name?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: I already started on earlier,  it should be open there.  with my name on it?
[17:29] <ZoneMikel> how do i get this to stop showing me the joins/leaves ?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: or just find my name in the list and click on it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-943133.html
[17:30] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: command not found
[17:30] <saisai> zoneMikel: good question I also want to know, I have been trying to figure it out
[17:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, what is "this"?
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> ubuntu server
[17:30] <ellar> saisai me too
[17:30] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: ,/bluetooth restart gives 2 "oks"
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> xchat
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: thats good
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> its got to be some command
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: now fire up blueman'
[17:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, again.. what is "this"?
[17:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, ah
[17:31] <ellar> leave entry messages irc
[17:31] <saisai> the chat screen
[17:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: bluetooth is a service - not a device
[17:31] <ZoneMikel> xchat gnome irc chat ... irc client
[17:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: so the "ok" doesn't mean your hardware is being used
[17:31] <ZoneMikel> i found it
[17:32] <bigrigger> ZoneMikel: if you use xchat,  right click on the channel tab, toggle show joins parts quits. Suggest you use xchat, not xchat-gnome.
[17:32] <ZoneMikel> right click #ubuntu then uncheck show join/part msg
[17:32] <zipper> how to install avg antivir on ubuntu
[17:32] <pvtpete> hi. I  cant see my ubuntu machine over the network, but it can see me - is there anything I can try?
[17:32] <ZoneMikel> why should i use xchat
[17:32] <Lasivian> Gnome bluetooth wizard sees nothing
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> !antivirus | zipper
[17:33] <genii> Lasivian: I suspect this is your problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502
[17:33] <saisai> Does any1 know how to block the entry/leave messages for pidgin?
[17:33] <zipper> ubottu: thanks sur
[17:33] <ChrizC> hi guys, I'm speaking to you from the Live CD of 8.10, and I'm trying to install it. However, about half-way through (it varies), I get error 5 (input/output error) and I was wondering how I could stop this from happening (note, I can't go on another OS on this computer as I just vaporized my previous partitions)
[17:34] <zipper> ubottu: but u mean virus n trojan dont work on  ubuntu
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Hell JEEEEEESsssss I got it to boot on the eeepc from the sd card wooo hoo
[17:34] <aclonedsheep> Hey, is there a way to restore my ubuntu partition?  Somehow it is good, I installed windows on my ntfs partition and thought i could just reinstall grub, but the partition isn't showing in fdisk.  any ideas?  thanks
[17:34] <fiber_cut> works great
[17:34] <ellar> saisai: pidgin plugin
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> saisai: main window -> ctrl + u
[17:34] <Lasivian> genii: yeah, that unfortunately sounds right
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Off subject anyone know what size SD card these eeepcs can handle?
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Just have 8 gig in it now
[17:34] <baber> hi
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> saisai: there seleck: join/part hiding
[17:34] <ChrizC> zipper: yes, basically. I've never heard of a trojan/virus on Ubuntu.
[17:34] <ZoneMikel> anyone know how to get tv out to work on ati radeon 1550 ... seriously every time i touch something i ccc it makes it crash
[17:34] <LjL> fiber_cut: #ubuntu-offtopic or #eeepc would be much better places to ask
[17:34] <saisai> gotcha thanks
[17:35] <ikonia> fiber_cut: use the web - this channel is for ubuntu support only as you've seen mentioned about 10 times in the past 5 minutes
[17:35] <fiber_cut> I know I just thought someone may know off the top of their head
[17:35] <ZoneMikel> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/nightmare-installing-ati-radeon-1550-my-only-problem-with-ubuntu-709746/
[17:35] <lowbitch> #4on4.et
[17:35] <orestes> oi
[17:35] <ikonia> fiber_cut: but you know it's offtopic - so don't ask
[17:35] <Akkernight> Omg... I just removed Ubuntu using the package manager xD
[17:35] <orestes> alguem do brasil
[17:35] <Akkernight> Tried uninstalling GCC..
[17:35] <beli> ChrizC: maybe your install medium is broken or the cdrom drive has problems...
[17:35] <baber> how can i close a port by netstat for example how can i close pidgin's port ?
[17:35] <beli> ChrizC: i/o error could be right anything
[17:35] <ikonia> baber: you need to not run pidgin or use a firewall
[17:35] <Akkernight> Had to format then reinstall Ubuntu -.-
[17:36] <fiber_cut> WOW running ubuntu off a SD card is still extremly fast
[17:36] <ChrizC> beli: my CD's fine, I got it from ShipIt/Canonical, and my CD drives old, but it's still working well.
[17:36] <orestes> oi
[17:36] <beli> ChrizC: ...if its not your install media maybe its broken udma cable or your harddrive itself...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses
[17:36] <quibbler> !br | orestes
[17:36] <ZoneMikel> omg its so easy to install antivir
[17:36] <ChrizC> beli: A. UDMA cable = ? B. My HDD's fine as I've tried both.
[17:36] <baber> ikonia: i run it now with what command can close that port?
[17:36] <zipper> ubottu: but its possible
[17:37] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: I stand corrected.
[17:37] <fiber_cut> I traded a cell phone for this eeepc and putting ubuntu desktop on it is great
[17:37] <ikonia> baber: iptables is the default linux firewall system
[17:37] <ZoneMikel> wtf is there a bot for ?
[17:37] <kitche> zipper: install clamav
[17:37] <beli> ChrizC: ok...i dont trust that, but lets be more specific...when do these errors come up?
[17:37] <kitche> ZoneMikel: it's easier to give out a command to the bot for certain questions
[17:37] <Buffalo_Bill> Bot? ubottu?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: they do exist, just not very wild and as long as you limit sudo access you will be fine
[17:37] <zipper> kitche: clamav cant find well
[17:37] <baber> ikonia: with netstat command not ?
[17:37] <ZoneMikel> guess no one was dumb enough to buy a ATI card like me ?
[17:38] <Buffalo_Bill> lol :P
[17:38] <ChrizC> beli: between 40 and 70% of "Copying files.." stage of installation.
[17:38] <ikonia> baber: no
[17:38] <ChrizC> It varies on each attempt.
[17:38] <orestes> oi
[17:38] <baber> iptable can find my port?
[17:38] <LjL> ryshyr-bot: hello
[17:38]  * ZoneMikel leaves
[17:38] <beli> baber: use netfilter
[17:39] <ryshyr-bot> LjL: hey
[17:39] <quibbler> zipper: if you feel you need an antivirus program try avg
[17:39] <zipper> quibbler: yes i will
[17:39] <saisai> I tried AVG for windows, I don't think it was good.
[17:40] <quibbler> zipper: it's good in windows and there is a linux version
[17:40] <SeViLLa> ls
[17:40] <baber> beli: netfilter can find and close port?
[17:40] <saisai> But it's free
[17:40] <SeViLLa> oops
[17:40] <beli> baber: find?
[17:40] <zipper> quibbler:i know i did test it
[17:40] <quibbler> zipper: ok good luck
[17:40] <beli> baber: netfilter is a tool to do some kind of firewall....YOU need to know what to do
[17:40] <fiber_cut> Now if we can just get ubuntu on my iphone lol
[17:41] <beli> baber: basically you DENY ALL and open whats needed
[17:41] <zipper> quibbler: but installed . it doesnt work
[17:41] <zipper> quibbler:  i cudnot find icon
[17:41] <baber> beli: netfilter is a command or a software?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> saisai: in linux its not needed unless you use amba, its only needed to protect your othersystems from users uploading virused files
[17:41] <beli> baber: software...iptables
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> *samba
[17:42] <baber> beli: i want a command line for find and close ports
[17:42] <Huufarted> Question for you guys.  My server keeps dropping and I"m not sure why.  Running Ubuntu Desktop 8.10.  Unable to connect by telnet, ssh, ftp, http when this happens.  X is running, I can move the mouse, but the image on the screen itself is frozen and I can't type.
[17:42] <beli> ChrizC: i want to make sure it isnt your media and not your hardare...cause i think its one or both of these
[17:42] <quibbler> zipper: i don't use anti virus program but i would suggest you try the ubuntuforums
[17:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !firewall | baber
[17:43] <Huufarted> In regards to my server dropping, I think this MIGHT be related, but I'm not sure...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132598/
[17:43] <aclonedsheep> is there a way to repair my partition table?
[17:43] <ChrizC> beli: have you heard of Canonical making TWO faulty discs in the same line?
[17:43] <quibbler> zipper: google avg site: ubuntuforums.org
[17:43] <beli> baber: you can use netstat to see whats going on...or nmap as a port scanner....and to close these ports the best way is to stop the service behind....then or additionally use a firewall solution...
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: have you configured your firewall any?
[17:43] <zipper> quibbler: ok yhanks
[17:43] <beli> ChrizC: UDMA cable...
[17:43] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip, basic IPTables are set up, but they're set to allow all from any to any
[17:43] <quibbler> zipper:  you are welcome
[17:43] <ChrizC> beli: what is that?
[17:44] <beli> ChrizC: guess A......
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> beli: the ribbon cable for PATA drives
[17:44] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: The firewall in use is a generic Linksys at the moment.
[17:44] <bin10101> I am having trouble with cups...what does it mean if there is a foomatic driver vs a simplified vs a notsimplified driver?
[17:44] <adac> Does anyone know how to password protect the access to my usb stick?
[17:44] <ChrizC> beli: I've just come from school, I'm not very alert for guessing games now.
[17:44] <beli> baber: to see the packets flowing use a packet sniffer.....but i think you better start reading more
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: thats a router, the firewall is on the WAN side so wont affect internal communication
[17:45] <baber> beli: is your means that first with netstat check ports and with iptables close them?
[17:45] <beli> ChrizC: you named it guess A and B before....
[17:45] <beli> ChrizC: i am not playing
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: can you connect via ip?
[17:45] <bin10101> is foomatic better than Gutenprint drivers?
[17:45] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: I know.  As far as the Ubuntu machine is concerned, I did have firestarter installed at one point, but when I realized I NEEDED a gui to run it, I removed it.
[17:45] <beli> baber: yes...at first you need to understand whats going on...then you can react...isnt it that way?
[17:45] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: when the server drops, I cannot.  I can connect to it right now, however.
[17:46] <ChrizC> beli: the powers of Wikipedia say "Ultra Direct Memory Access?"
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: well iptables is still there, just not configured
[17:46] <beli> ChrizC: your harddrive is blank? no needed data on it?
[17:46] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: would that cause the issues with X I was seeing as well?
[17:46] <ChrizC> beli: correct
[17:46] <beli> ChrizC: so do a stress test for i/o not using your cdrom drive....you can use dd for that
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: not sure, have you tried stopping the listening apps and only running one of them, like ssh
[17:47] <ChrizC> sorry beli, I'm a linux newbie so you'll have to explain how to do that, sorry :P
[17:47] <Tobbe> slipstenen: That's amazing! windows fixmbr actually fixed grub O.o
[17:47] <aclonedsheep> really?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: kil the other listening apps and build up slowly
[17:47] <aclonedsheep> i wonder if it could help me
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> my partition table is jacked up somehow
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> i installed windows and messed up the mbr and all
[17:48] <akazawa> hello, I am having an issue with playing games. When I go in games they say my IP is <IP_ADDRESS> and when I go into the terminal I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and ssh to it and it shows up as the computer I am using, however my IP is <IP_ADDRESS>. What is going on? How can I make it resolve to the correct ip?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> !grub | aclonedsheep
[17:48] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: that's the problem.  When it locks up, it could be in an hour, it could be in 4 hours, it could be 24 hours.  There's no pattern.  I also can't find anything hardware related in the logs.
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip thanks, i've been following those directions
[17:48] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: the odd thing is, stuff still gets LOGGED to those logs while it looks like it's locked up.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: check   dmesg | tail when it hangs and recovers
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_hardrive_you_want_to_install_ubuntu_to bs=1024          for example
[17:49] <ChrizC> akazawa: I have a feeling the 127 one is your INTERNAL ip address, whereas 192 is your IP address for everyone else, either that or vice-versa
[17:49] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: the only recover I can do is when I do a hard shutdown and dmesg is reset on boot up
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: and see if there are i/o errors again
[17:49] <ChrizC> beli: and I'd do that in terminal, yes?
[17:49] <saisai> How do I move a file from one file browser to another. It says "permission denied"?
[17:49] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip: The problem is when  I fdisk -l I only see my NTFS partition...no linux partition
[17:49] <syockit> akazawa: but does it work using your 192 ip?
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: yes, but again: the whole drive will be overwritten with zeros
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: 127.x.y.z is a loopback device
[17:49] <akazawa> ChrizC: No it's not a real IP address
[17:49] <saisai> How do I move a file from one file browser to another file browser. It says "permission denied"?
[17:50] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: I have an idea.  I can set up something like this on the main console:  tail -f /var/log/dmesg > ~/dmesg.log
[17:50] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: I never set one up, how come its showing up now
[17:50] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: You're a helluva guy no matter what everybody else says.
[17:50] <quibbler> !sudo | saisai:
[17:50] <kitche> saisai: one of the file browser need sudo if it's in a directory that you do not have permissions to write to
[17:50] <riwa> I'm trying to configure xinerama. And everything is working fine except that it black and white. I can't find anything on google except that I should add "Option "COMPOSITE" somewhere. This really bugs me.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: sounds like a step inthe right direction :)
[17:51] <ChrizC> beli: where it's drive_you_want_to_install_to, what would be the names for it in Ubuntu, because I'm used to Windows drive names (C:/, M:/)
[17:51] <Fritzla> hallo  was ist ein guter  für scripte schreiben für die shell?
[17:51] <saisai> but do I have to be in the terminal?
[17:51] <Fritzla> editor lol^
[17:51] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip : I know you are busy but did you get to read what my issue was or have any ideas?  IF not i'm sorry to bug you
[17:51] <beli> ChrizC: depends on your hardware...
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: All PCs have looopback but your game may make its own device'
[17:51] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: it doesn't show up in ifconfig -a
[17:52] <quibbler> !de | Fritzla
[17:52] <akazawa> but I can ping the ip when the game is not running
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: so how would I find it out?
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: what kind of ide device do you have?
[17:52] <regeya> !de > Fritzla
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> aclonedsheep: does the disk show up in bios?
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: pass?
[17:52] <regeya> however Fritzla, if you speak any english, editors tend to be personal choice...I use vim for shellscripts :->
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: ?
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: I really don't know :P
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: how many harddrives are you using
[17:52] <ChrizC> 2, beli.
[17:53] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: can I PM you?
[17:53] <quibbler> saisai: what are you trying to do?
[17:53] <syockit> akazawa: but since you get to ssh it, it's not specific to the game, correct? maybe some avahi thing got it up...
[17:53] <beli> ChrizC: both are there for linux?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: maybe its created when the game is ran
[17:53] <ChrizC> beli: yes. Both are nuked.
[17:53] <beli> ok
[17:53] <saisai> I just want to move a file from one directory to another
[17:53] <saisai> but its saying permission denied
[17:53] <beli> ChrizC: so i guess you have one harddrive connected as primary master....
[17:53] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: the game is run under wine
[17:54] <ChrizC> saisai: what folders to + from?
[17:54] <ChrizC> beli: correct.
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: since you are using old hardware....it should be /dev/sda
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: id heck the game's settings. see if theres anything weird with respect to loopback devices
[17:54] <akazawa> syockit: yeah, I was thinking something like that
[17:54] <ChrizC> I want to use my newer, bigger drive?
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: or /dev/hda
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: give it a try
[17:54] <jophish> If I have a brightness function key, and it isn't registering in acpi_listen. Is there any hope of me being able to use it?
[17:54] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: there isn't, it's a windows game
[17:54] <ChrizC> beli: for a newer secondary drive, would it be hdb?
[17:54] <saisai> quibbler: From a folder in "home" to a folder in "usr"
[17:55] <saisai> How do you know these things?
[17:55] <quibbler> saisai: you need to be root in a terminal  type:  gksudo nautilus      this will open a file browser as root
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: maybe its a weid quirk in wine
[17:55] <saisai> should I just buy a linux book and read?
[17:55] <Axan> Hi
[17:55] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: it's not wine
[17:55] <beli> ChrizC: right...but i recommend to install the base to the primary master....for no reason :)
[17:55] <saisai> I feel like a retard asking these Qs
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: but to connect to yourself use localhost as the host name, other systems will use your class c ip as you'd expect
[17:55] <saisai> a windows retard
[17:56] <saisai> ok good command thanks
[17:56] <ChrizC> beli: "dd: opening `/dev/hda': Permission denied"
[17:56] <beli> ChrizC: you need to be superuser
[17:56] <Axan> I got problems using SSH, I can connect my server, but as soon as I type "cat <file>" or "top" or any command with few return lines expected, then the ssh client freeze.. I must close and re-open terminal and make a new connection :/  Any idea ??
[17:56] <beli> ChrizC: sudo bash    and do all the commands from that shell
[17:57] <ChrizC> oh cheers
[17:57] <tobberoth> If I have a minimal Ubuntu installation and want to try KDE, is apt-get install KDE enough? and can I simply remove all of the KDE stuff installed by it somehow?
[17:57] <Errietta> XD
[17:57] <extor> what is a free .fla file editor? I need to edit some template files that have the .fla included
[17:57] <quibbler> saisai: there are many free linux and ubuntu ebooks on the web search and you will find
[17:57] <beli> Axan: telnet put_ip_of_ssh_server_herer 22             and see if it gives you some identity string
[17:58] <Akkernight> extor, I don't think you can do that legally unless you use Adobe Flash
[17:58] <arvind_khadri> saisai, tldp.org
[17:58] <extor> Akkernight, errr sure you can. .fla is an open standard and anything can be created to manipulate it
[17:58] <extor> adobe gives out the specs for it too afaik
[17:58] <zxd__> what's the default gdm theme on ubuntu
[17:58] <zxd__> how can I check what is the default currently configured
[17:59] <aclonedsheep> I'm trying to restore grub after a windows install but fdisk -l is missing partitions...how can i restore my partition table?
[17:59] <Akkernight> extor, hmm... Ain't .fla the format that's shown on websites and stuff?
[17:59] <extor> Akkernight, no
[17:59] <Axan> beli, I use private/public keys to connect and it work correctly, I mean I can open connection, but as soon as I run a command like "top" or a big "ls -lah", it crash.. And if I run the same commands into a 'screen', then it work!! it's crazy :/
[17:59] <extor> and even if it were there are apps like gnash that can view it
[17:59] <extor> .fla is the flash source code
[18:00] <phil_taylor_com> Any initramfs experts in here?
[18:00] <beli> Axan: so connections is established....you better tell that ;) any error message?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> tobberoth: sido apt-get install kde-base
[18:00] <Akkernight> extor, well, I'm pretty sure it's not legal, unless you use Adobe Flash to open Flash files... But I havn't read the Legal Agreement or any license
[18:00] <ChrizC> beli: "dd: writing `/dev/hda': No space left on device" "643245+0 records in" "643244+0 records out" "658681856 bytes (659 MB) copied, 8.27048 s, 79.6 MB/s"
[18:00] <unop> extor, .fla can also mean 'free lossless audio' - an audio format.
[18:00] <beli> ChrizC: with no i/o error?
[18:00] <extor> Akkernight, if that were true then the dozens and dozens of free .fla editors out there would not exist, would they?
[18:00] <ChrizC> none that I can see, beli.
[18:00] <Axan> beli, no error message on client, it just "freeze".. Where can I look for a error log file on server (and client) ?
[18:01] <beli> Axan: whats your client?
[18:01] <extor> unop I want to edit flash source files
[18:01] <Akkernight> extor, PirateBay exists... But if you know of such editors, why do you ask for such editors?
[18:01] <Axan> beli, I think both server and client are OpenSSH, with telnet on server I get: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-3ubuntu1
[18:01] <beli> Axan: do you run the ssh client from a terminal windows?
[18:02] <tobberoth> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[18:02] <extor> Akkernight, Im not running windows, doh
[18:02] <Axan> beli, By the way, if I connect another server (external one, via internet), I don't have problem.
[18:02] <beli> Axan: do you run the ssh client from a terminal window?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> extor: flash is proprietary format to Adobe so a flash creator would need to be made by adobe to be useful, there may be a best effort one some place
[18:02] <Axan> beli, er ? I'm in X, i run a terminal and type "ssh server_ip"..
[18:02] <Akkernight> extor, doesn't dis-prove any legal things about it, but as I said, I don't know
[18:03] <beli> Axan: press ctrl+alt+f2 and login...try from console...
[18:03] <Axan> beli, ok i try..
[18:03] <tobberoth> ActionParsnip: Actually, I can't find any kde-base package in apt-get
[18:03] <extor> Why are people giving pseudo-philosophical, pseudo-legal and ethical answers to my question?
[18:03] <beli> ChrizC: ok...now lets to the same thing using your cdrom
[18:03] <extor> Akkernight, heres an idea. If you have no clue what you are taling about, don
[18:03] <extor> dont say it
[18:03] <beli> ChrizC: your cdrom is primary or secondary slave?
[18:03] <azharcs> Hi, Does anyone know why in Ubuntu, when i save a file eg: when i save file example.txt , there is another file example.txt~
[18:03] <Akkernight> extor, 'cause you're asking for editors that you claim to know yourself
[18:04] <AJC_Z0> How do I add an application to the list in the pop-up window when I insert removable media (CD, DVD, etc.)?
[18:04] <extor> Especially when it comes to legal advice which you are not able to render unless you are a lawyer
[18:04] <zash> azharcs: a backup copy
[18:04] <unop> extor, it's all building up to 'there are probably no .fla editors for linux ...'
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> tobberoth: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[18:04] <blip> extor what do u want
[18:04] <azharcs> zash: Are they important or can i delete them
[18:04] <aclonedsheep> I'm trying to restore grub after a windows install but fdisk -l is missing partitions...how can i restore my partition table?
[18:04] <extor> Jesus christ I just as a simple and legit question and I get attacked by people interrogating me
[18:04] <beli> aclonedsheep: i recommend supergrub
[18:05] <ChrizC> beli; primary
[18:05] <blip> question was...
[18:05] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: gpart or testdisk
[18:05] <extor> blip, I just wanted a simple .fla editor for linux.
[18:05] <amigamia> has anyone had any success in running LFS server in ubuntu?
[18:05] <beli> aclonedsheep: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[18:05] <erUSUL> !info gpart | aclonedsheep
[18:05] <unop> azharcs, those are probably backup files - might be safe to delete.
[18:05] <amigamia> should i use wine to do it?
[18:05] <Akkernight> extor, no, it was not a simple question, you're saying you know editors, why don't you go get those editors?
[18:05] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | aclonedsheep
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> beli -- I think that can reinstall grub if it can find the partition but i could be wrong
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> i tried doing it manually but ran into the problem of missing partition
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> erUSUL: Thx
[18:05] <bigrigger> azharcs: your editor saves the original file as filename~  as a safety precaution, yes you can delete it if you want.
[18:06] <azharcs> there are just too many, why does it even happen? Every saved file has it. when i 'ls' it.
[18:06] <blip> extor what extension is that
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> erUSUL: Do you recomend trying one over the other first?
[18:06] <amigamia> gparted is part of ubuntu yes?
[18:06] <extor> Akkernight, just stop asking retarded questions. I told you twice already I need a LINUX fla editor. And quit trying to give legal advice since you arent a lawyer and your info is dead wrong besides.
[18:06] <anium> hi, I got this error when I create my source package : file-size-mismatch-in-changes-file. How can I fix it ?
[18:06] <azharcs> Thanks for replying everyone
[18:06] <blip> flash?
[18:06] <extor> blip, its flash source code...the source that renders .swf files
[18:06] <extor> yeah adobe flash
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> gparted is, im thinking gpart may be something else
[18:06] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: not really; i've never used them (fortunetly)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: its in the repos so you could say that
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> gparted doesnt seem to have any recovery features
[18:06] <blip> oh, umm...thats a tough one
[18:06] <amigamia> i am getting it right now actionparsnkp thianks
[18:07] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: gparted not the same as gpart
[18:07] <LjL> extor: i apologize for some of this channel's users apparently being unable to say "i don't know of any such editors" or refraining from answering entirely.
[18:07] <aclonedsheep> though so
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> !info gpart
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> !info gparted
[18:07] <paradroid> Hi. What is an easy (both CLI and GUI, if possible/available) way to show and change DNS-server(s)?
[18:07] <ChrizC> beli: how would I do it with primary cdrom?
[18:07] <amigamia> btw actoinparsnip i had issue with my swapfile having holes in it. i can recreate it with gparted yes?
[18:07] <beli> ChrizC: so...its hdb....try dd if=/dev/hdb .....
[18:07] <Akkernight> extor, I'm just telling you, so that you won't get sued, just ignore me if that's your interest
[18:07] <extor> LjL, lol....
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: not sure how you get "holes"
[18:07] <ChrizC> beli: hdb? won't that be my second HDD?
[18:07] <extor> Akkernight, you are giving me legal advice without being a lawyer and you are worried about ME being prosecuted?
[18:07] <blip> extor did u see this yet:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[18:08] <beli> ChrizC: thats primary slave....
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: you could make a swap partition on another disk, or resize you current partitions to make a new one
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: or just have no swap
[18:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: amigamia fragmentation of the swapfile? gparted manages partitions not swapfiles
[18:08] <bdubnc> Hey guys, I need some help.  I am trying to configure a TLP 2844 thermal printer under Linux, Ubuntu to be specific.  Can this be used?
[18:08] <Akkernight> extor, how do you know I ain't a lawyer? And I'm not giving you advice, I'm just warning you
[18:08] <Axan> beli, I got an error msg because my keys files were not protected, I made chmod 0700, I connected the server but it freeze the same way when I typed "top" :(
[18:08] <n8tuserf> paradroid-> you want to what now? use a different dns server?  modify /etc/resolv.conf
[18:08] <mike998> Is there any easy way to manage my network connection from the command line?  I'm using a Dell Studio 1535 with a Broadcomm 43xx card.  I'm using the Network-Manager, but want to use something from command line
[18:08] <LjL> extor, Akkernight: please drop this debate now
[18:08] <amigamia> umm
[18:08] <erUSUL> bdubnc: linuxprinting.org
[18:08] <ChrizC> beli: no i/o error.
[18:08] <pr0fane> How to rezise partition without any data loss?
[18:08] <amigamia> i just recreated my swap. i dont really need a swap do i.
[18:09] <extor> I dont want to debate with anyone...gezuss
[18:09] <beli> ChrizC: does the led blink of your cdrom while doing it?
[18:09] <blip> pr0fane, did u try no-disc
[18:09] <ChrizC> I wasn't checking, 1 sec.
[18:09] <paradroid> n8tuserf:  Yes, I want to (1) see what DNS-server is being used ATM and (2) change that. It should also be easy for someone not familiar with the CLI.
[18:09] <pr0fane> no i didnt
[18:09] <amigamia> brb have to reboot
[18:09] <pr0fane> its an application?
[18:09] <ChrizC> beli: nope.
[18:09] <blip> yea, lemme double check the name
[18:09] <extor> I dont sit in channels waiting for people to ask questions and then butt in and tell them I have no clue what the answer is either. Here's a tip: if you are clueless then keep quiet! And if you are clueless dont debate either especially when its OFF TOPIC
[18:10] <phil_taylor_com> Any initramfs experts in here?
[18:10] <n8tuserf> paradroid-> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[18:10] <beli> Axan: i thought of some buffer problem, but this is unusual...hmmm
[18:10] <pavel_> česky
[18:10] <blip> pr0fane, sry it was test-disk
[18:10] <erUSUL> !ck
[18:10] <erUSUL> !ch
[18:10] <blip> its available for all os
[18:11] <pavel_> mluví tu někdo česky?
[18:11] <pr0fane> Can i rezise a partition where windows is installed?
[18:11] <Axan> beli, It is possible that the server remember the MAC adress used with my keys and then crash the connection ?
[18:11] <genii> !cz
[18:11] <blip> pr0fane, yes i just did it
[18:11] <erUSUL> genii: XD
[18:11] <pr0fane> thx man
[18:11] <n8tuserf> pr0fane-> yes, make sure it has shutdown properly
[18:11] <blip> np
[18:11] <genii> erUSUL:  :)
[18:11] <blip> extor, did that app help?
[18:12] <extor> blip, sorry which app?
[18:12] <blip> extor, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[18:12] <extor> Oh that was for me..lemme check it
[18:13] <extor> blip looks good...even though its last updated 2006 I am going to check it out thanks
[18:13] <beli> Axan: sshd does not allow ip switching....anything else should be fine
[18:13] <blip> np
[18:13] <beli> Axan: another idea is bad checksums....
[18:13] <Axan> bad checksums ?
[18:13] <beli> Axan: you should run a sniffer and see whats going on...or use strace on the client
[18:13] <beli> Axan: yes, tcp checksum errors
[18:14] <Axan> mm.. by the way, where can I found error messages from the server ? Any log file ? where ?
[18:14] <Axan> beli, but.. i'm on 100Mb lan.. how can I have tcp checksums errors ?
[18:15] <erUSUL> !pm | lupin
[18:15] <AJC_Z0> Axan: See /etc/syslog.conf and the syslog pages in the manual
[18:15] <beli> Axan: the speed has nothing todo with errors...
[18:16] <beli> Axan: broken config, broken tcp stack, broken hardware....
[18:16] <A-KO> How do I check the configure options for a program in the repository? In this case, the repo does not have the most up-to-date version of a software package I need. The software dev hasn't released a .deb file, either. So I'm looking to try and mimic the options used as closely as possible for installing manually. I've read on using checkinstall to create a .deb, but I still need the configure options. I'm on Ubuntu 8.10
[18:16] <beli> Axan: check syslog and daemon.log
[18:16] <LjL> A-KO: are you sure the version you need might not be in Jaunty?
[18:16] <AJC_Z0> Axan: There is also a GUI tool - gnome-system-log - for viewing and watching logs
[18:17] <A-KO> LjL: I need proftpd 1.3.2 not 1.3.1 which gets installed on 8.10...
[18:18] <LjL> A-KO: pity, even Jaunty only has 1.3.1. well, "apt-get source proftpd" will download the source code to the current directory, then you can check the compile options there. you could probably even substitute that tree with the 1.3.2 source and manage to create a working .deb from that
[18:18] <A-KO> alright, I kind of figured that's what I'll have to do. Thanks..
[18:18] <Axan> !kick lupin
[18:19] <A-KO> will apt-get source proftpd download to the current directory?
[18:19] <saisai> Whats the name of the ubuntu channel where u can chat about random stuff?
[18:19] <LjL> Axan: what's the issue?
[18:19] <keepsake> !offtopic | saisai
[18:19] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> does anyone know why java apps seem not to account for DST?  i have a java app, and when i look at hte debugging console it's off by an hour
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> so is this particular apps
[18:20] <stoic_> I need to enable squashfs 1.0 support to mount an image, there are no install packages for squashfs 1.x and there is no kernel patches that I can find for my kernel version, Im on day 3 of this endeavor and im pretty frustrated, can anyone help ? maybe theres a way to enable 1.0 support in later versions that im unaware of, any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> im not sure if its all java apps or just this one
[18:20] <LjL> A-KO: yes
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> whats a small java gui app i can install to verify
[18:21] <genii> azureus?
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> genii: thanks
[18:21] <beli> stoic_: mount isoimage /mnt/destination -t squashfs -o loop
[18:22] <stoic_> beli: I know how to mount an image but squashfs is not backwards compatable
[18:22] <nigtv> hello
[18:23] <bin10101> in 64bit 8.10, how do you get 32 bit compatibility?
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: ah 1.x ic
[18:23] <stoic_> beli: yea :(
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: so you need to prepare your own kernel module or build your own kernel
[18:23] <ricn> does anyone know how I can setup postfix or any other smtp server to just make it simple to just send e-mail to my gmail account?
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: or boot an old live distro with 1.x support and convert it
[18:24] <FuriousGeorge> genii: azureus doesnt seem to trigger the console
[18:24] <stoic_> beli: preparing my own kernel is a bit over my head, any good rescources you could point me to ?
[18:24] <nigtv> i am currently installing xubuntu 7.10 onto a small workstation computer, and i could install ubuntu 7.10, or any other version if needed. I wanted to put snes9x (or zsnes, really), and have it boot DIRECTLY into that emulator, i have searched around all over, tried editing all of the bashrc and bashprofile files, changing init.d, etc, and havent gotten anything to work
[18:24] <nigtv> i really need someone to help me because i am totally lost now
[18:25] <mike998> Is there any easy way to manage my network connection from the command line?  I'm using a Dell Studio 1535 with a Broadcomm 43xx card.  I'm using the Network-Manager, but want to use something from command line
[18:25] <n4> whats channel of ubuntu in brazilian language?
[18:25] <blip> ricn, u there?
[18:25] <A-KO> LjL: Are there any URLs to more documentation on how to do what I'm trying to do? I'm reading a bunch of files in the /debian subdir of the source package, which appears to include all the options for placing files. I don't necessarily want to dump the 1.3.2 sources into the 1.3.1 tree and install that because the 1.3.1 source seems to include a bunch of patches, which I assume may not be compatible or might overwrite some things in 1.3.2.
[18:25] <nigtv> mike998: yes
[18:25] <ricn> blip: yes
[18:25] <nigtv> mike998: iwconfig (card) essid (network id) key (key)
[18:25] <blip> ricn:  http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html  <---how-to for postfix forwarding
[18:25] <quibbler> !br | n4
[18:25] <ricn> blip: thanks
[18:25] <LjL> A-KO: it's not entirely easy, perhaps you might just go with checkinstall
[18:25] <blip> np
[18:26] <LjL> !packaging > A-KO    (A-KO, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:26] <nigtv> mike998: on my computer i would use iwconfig eth1 essid Stewart, and the type "dhclient eth1" to get an ip
[18:26] <n4> thanks
[18:26] <beli> stoic_: do you have squashfs 3.x enabled?
[18:26] <nigtv> mike998: you might have to type dhclient (device) to make it work, after you type the iwconfig command
[18:26] <stoic_> beli: yes
[18:26] <blip> nigtv, why is your wireliess eth1?
[18:26] <beli> stoic_: checkout the unsquashfs tool....it can do 1.x
[18:27] <nigtv> blip: not really sure, it was built into this lappy, so i think that might be it
[18:27] <A-KO> well LjL, I would go with that but I'm not sure where to look for the various configure options so things get installed....I guess it doesn't matter though much if checkinstall keeps track of things? Because if it makes a .deb I'll be able to uninstall it later no matter where it is, correct?
[18:27] <nigtv> on all of my other comps its been wlan0, always, however
[18:27] <blip> nigtv, thats usually a slackware wifi interface
[18:27] <blip> strange..
[18:27] <nigtv> yea
[18:27] <beli> stoic_: check out the squashfs howto on tldp