[01:22] <elky> * PartyBot1 (~floodbot@ubuntu/bot/partybot) has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users <-- this can't be useful...
[01:22] <elky> Unless it's supposed to?
[01:26] <IdleOne> partybot is a clone of floodbot
[01:27] <IdleOne> probably just uses the same config
[01:34] <nhandler> Yeah, Ljl is still sorting out some issues with the configs iirc
[01:40] <elky> I wasn't sure since it's not opped in there
[01:42] <nhandler> Yeah, it isn't grouped to the FloodBot account
[04:15] <rww> G'day. Was the removal of the banforward *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users in #ubuntu deliberate?
[04:22] <rww> huh, there's *!*@gateway/web/* instead. except webchat people can still speak. so I'm gonna guess there's magic going on. never mind.
[04:22] <rww> s/there's/there's +q/
[08:46] <rww> Hola. Given that http://paste.ubuntu.com/ is no longer requiring logins or whatever, y'all might want to change #ubuntu's topic to point there instead of pastebin.com again.
[09:04] <ikonia> ok
[09:05] <ikonia> done
[09:05] <rww> thanks
[09:05] <ikonia> easy to fix
[09:05] <ikonia> I'm off
[13:37] <ikonia> 13:28 <@PartyBot1> *** Ubuntu-Release RSS feed, [05/10/10 14:28:54] : Maverick release will be delayed due to recent sale of Canonical to Oracle. Check Mark Shuttleworth's blog for further details
[13:37] <ikonia> what's the bot on about ?
[13:38] <jussi> heh...
[13:38] <Pici> Its a 'joke'.  But I don't like it, and I never did the past few releases when it did it.
[13:38] <ikonia> I don't think that's funny
[13:38] <jussi> me either.
[13:38] <ikonia> I think that's stupid and miss-leading
[13:38] <ikonia> in a channel where idiots will take that as fact and start spouting off about it, it's not good
[13:38] <Pici> I don't mind the isitout date calculation thing though.
[13:39] <ikonia> telling people canonical has been sold to Oracle is just stupid though
[14:48] <Test_> moin
[14:49] <Tm_T> hi, how can we help you?
[14:49] <Test_> how can i find german ubuntu-ops channeö?
[14:50] <Pici> Test_: Try #ubuntu-de-ops
[14:50] <Test_> there are only three peoples, but maybe you can help me to
[14:50] <Test_> *too
[14:51] <Test_>  I start to explain...
[14:52] <Test_> For a few months.. my behavior wasnt excellent... i know... so the operator called fuchs banned me and told me, that i first should come back into this channel in two months..
[14:52] <Pici> Test_: We do not handle #ubuntu-de issues here.  If anywhere, #ubuntu-de-ops or possibly #ubuntu-irc
[14:52] <Test_> ok
[18:56] <ikonia> who changed party bots Oracle line ?
[18:59] <IdleOne> ljl probably
[19:00] <IdleOne> upon request
[19:01] <ikonia> not impressed with the replacment
[19:02] <IdleOne> heh, it is a little passive aggressive
[20:23] <Pici> IdleOne: jussi asked ljl to remove it in -ops-monitor.
[20:23] <IdleOne> I know I saw
[20:23] <Pici> er, maybe an extra comma in there somewhere.
[20:24] <IdleOne> and ljl removed it and replaced it
[20:25] <IdleOne> I understand how it could be misunderstood and taken as fact by some.
[20:25] <Pici> I thought it was in poor taste last release too.
[20:26] <IdleOne> perhaps, but I still feel it was "funny"
[20:26] <Pici> IdleOne: you there?
[20:27] <IdleOne> yeah
[20:27] <IdleOne> you don't see me?
[20:27] <Pici> Is what nikon_ in #ubuntu just asked equivalent to sysrq+k ?
[20:27] <Pici> Or am I mistaken?
[20:28] <Pici> I only use it on my laptop and I need to use my fn key which makes me confused as to what the real key combo is.
[20:29] <IdleOne> Pici: it is
[20:30] <IdleOne> seems the ctrl is ignored
[20:30] <IdleOne> and it restarts X
[20:33] <IdleOne> Pici: did you get my response?
[20:34] <Pici> IdleOne: I did, but I was thinking.
[20:35] <IdleOne> the command is not harmful, annoying for sure
[20:35] <ikonia> which command ?
[20:35] <IdleOne> ctrl-alt-prntsc-k
[20:36] <ikonia> sysrq, that will interupt your machine
[20:36] <IdleOne> it ignores the ctrl and issue alt-sysrq-k
[20:36] <ikonia> so issuing a sysrq will hang a system
[20:37] <IdleOne> I suppose you would lose any data not saved
[20:37] <ikonia> plus interupt a service
[20:37] <Pici> ctrl-alt-printscreen-k = sysrq-k then?
[20:37] <IdleOne> that too
[20:37] <IdleOne> yes Pici it does
[20:38] <ikonia> which if it's in a remote location, such as a data centre, means remote hands
[20:38] <IdleOne> or it is = I mean
[20:38] <IdleOne> ikonia: when you put it that way. the command is harmful.
[20:39] <ikonia> it's a great tool, but I often find people who are asking for it shouldn't be using it
[20:40] <IdleOne> the thing is that the way he posed his question, made it seem like it would bring up a window to save a screenshot
[20:40] <ikonia> that's naughty, as thats plain miss-leading
[20:40] <IdleOne> yup
 can anyone tell me what their dialog box on print screen says when you open up the multiple desktop printscreen (ctrl+alt+PrtSc+k)?
[20:41] <ikonia> nikon is known issue user
[20:41] <ikonia> (didn't know it was him)
[20:42] <Pici> ikonia: Has he been banned/kicked before?
[20:42] <Pici> I'm being lazy and not checking the bt
[20:42] <ikonia> not %100 certain, not checked
[20:42] <ikonia> I'd put money on at least once
[20:43] <Pici> I've asked him to join here and set a forward.
[20:43] <nikon_> hello
[20:44] <IdleOne> ikonia Pici 28752
[20:44] <IdleOne> err 27852 that is
[20:44] <Pici> nikon_: I'm not sure what the best way to say this is, so I'll just say it.
[20:44] <nikon_> sure ok
[20:44] <Pici> nikon_: The command that you were asking about is malicious.
[20:45] <nikon_> malicious?
[20:45] <Pici> I don't know if you're doing it on purpose or not, but asking other people to do that particular key combination is potentially 'dangerous'
[20:47] <nikon_> sorry. nothing malicious happens here tho, im just having a problem with the program
[20:48] <Pici> ctrl-alt-printscreen could potentially trigger sysrq. And sysrq-k will kill all your active processes.
[20:48] <nikon_> whaat
[20:48] <nikon_> shit man
[20:49] <nikon_> sorry i didnt mean to do that
[20:49] <nikon_> man im way off today. i thought i was going to get ops for helping people or smth when you invited me
[20:50] <Pici> Sorry.
[20:51] <nikon_> i informed #ubuntu about my mistake
[20:51] <Pici> nikon_: Thank you.
[20:51] <nikon_> thanks again i don't want to get anyone angry :S
[20:53] <knome> err
[20:54] <marienz> that rang a teensy bit hollow after grepping my logs a little
[20:54] <marienz> if you grep your logs for his current host you'll find "zedkappa" quitting a short while ago
[20:55] <marienz> if you then grep your #ubuntu logs for that nick you'll find him connecting from the same isp (dynamic ip, presumably) and mentioning the terms "dcc" and "send"
[20:55] <ikonia> 22:05 -!- nikon_ is now known as zedkappa
[20:56] <Pici> Well, I'm feeling nice today, so I'm not going to ban him again.  we have enough bans on the channel as it is.
[20:56] <marienz> see 2010-09-09 and 2010-09-20
[20:56] <Pici> And we're going to need room for 10.10
[20:56]  * marienz nods
[20:56] <Tm_T> Pici: like to make more room?
[20:57] <IdleOne> I vote for clearing the ban list
[20:57] <IdleOne> :)
[20:57] <IdleOne> just let everybody back in and lets hug it out
[20:57] <Pici> We were discussing something like that earlier today 'elsewhere';
[20:58] <Tm_T> there's IIRC two bans set by me, both can be cleared
[20:59] <Tm_T> I would rather not attempt to do it with this onscreen keyboard and 5 px font
[21:03] <Gary> I'm just looking at doing a /msg chanserv clear #ubuntu-uk bans, all seem oldish, thought it was relevant
[21:03]  * Pici sighs
[21:04] <ikonia> I'd be pretty dissapointed if we totally cleared #ubuntu's bans are there are some long term issue users on it, a big good house keep wouldn't go amiss though
[21:05] <Pici> At one point we discussed removing all bans that didn't have a comment on the bantracker.
[21:06] <ikonia> I think thats been mentioned before
[21:06] <Pici> Also, I'm going home.  I have Lauterino in pm, he seems to think that he can say anything in #ubuntu as long as hes nice.
[21:08] <Pici> Feels like hes trolling me.
[21:08] <ikonia> I think I've seen him before
[21:08] <ikonia> that "I've been coding" and "you don't like coders" comment is osmething someone said to me recently
[21:08] <Pici> Sometimes I think I'm too calm when I talk to these people.
[21:08] <ikonia> bin him - he can accept the rules or not
[21:09] <Pici> I muted him for a bit.
[21:45] <Seeker`> Gary: I wouldn't clear the bans in -uk
[21:46] <Gary> they just seem rather old to me Seeker`
[21:46] <Seeker`> it takes a lot to get banned from -uk though, and most of the bans there are a fairly good coverage of persistent trolls
[21:50] <jpds> Seeker`: They haven't gotten me yet.
[21:52] <Seeker`> jpds: it can be arranged
[22:27] <IdleOne> who -q lauretino?
[22:27] <IdleOne> err Lauterino
[22:30] <IdleOne> ah PC did
[22:40] <niko> 2010/10/05 23:38:17 [#ubuntu] +q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by IdleOne
[22:40] <Seeker`> IdleOne: ?
[22:40] <niko> 2010/10/05 23:39:51 [#ubuntu] +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by IdleOne
[22:40] <niko> guess there is one useless
[22:40] <IdleOne> yup the +q
[22:40] <IdleOne> will remove it now
[22:41] <Seeker`> IdleOne: what prompted the ban?
[22:41] <IdleOne> I asked in nicely in PM to follow the rules
[22:41] <IdleOne> he responded with
[22:41] <IdleOne> IdleOne> You have been explained the rules about being on topic in #ubuntu
 follow them please
 No, dont care, and be so evil
[22:42] <IdleOne> still rambling in PM


[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[16:18] <ABDUL> hi
[16:19] <ABDUL> your son???
[16:39] <anandchowdhary> :D
[16:43] <Risk_4u> hi
[16:44] <Risk_4u> @Nara hi
[16:44] <Nara> hi
[16:44] <Risk_4u> wr u frm
[16:44] <Risk_4u> @Nara
[16:47] <emankcin> hi people
[16:47] <Risk_4u> hi pal @eman
[16:49] <emankcin> so the stream will start in 12min? there is still an old hangout...
[16:49] <jono> everyone
[16:49] <jono> refresh the page, the new hangout is there
[16:49] <emankcin> thanks
[16:49] <jono> will start live in 11mins
[17:01] <dholbach> are we live? :)
[17:01] <sergiusens> dholbach: not yet
[17:01] <sergiusens> dholbach: you are now :-)
[17:01] <dholbach> excellent
[17:01] <dholbach> jono, ^ here we are :)
[17:01] <Mobile_Dom> indeed you are
[17:02] <dholbach> :-D
[17:02] <netcurli> yes, we can see you now
[17:02] <emankcin> yes you are
[17:02] <dscassel> You're on!
[17:02] <JarekJ83> what is it about this time?
[17:05] <emankcin> random handegg photograph
[17:06] <patbuntu> Ubuntu rocks!
[17:07] <emankcin> ha, der deutsche akzent :>
[17:08] <tolubalogun> Hello
[17:09] <NikTh> Unity Drunk :P
[17:09] <nagu> Can I run this build in VM ?
[17:09] <cristhian> ola k ase
[17:11] <nagu> #QUESTION : Can I run this build in VM?
[17:11] <udit> QUESTION: What is CAG?
[17:11] <udit> Oh already discussing. Nevermind
[17:11] <Mobile_Dom> #QUESTION : Google contacts import?
[17:18] <anatonia> hello im from argentina
[17:18] <NikTh> #QUESTION: SSO can now be created only via Ubuntu One ? (not via lauchpad?)
[17:19] <Risk_4u> hye
[17:19] <anatonia> iwant to know ist there a software the same of ccleaner for windows,in linux for ubuntu
[17:21] <nagu> #question : Is there anything like trystack.org available for juju ???
[17:22] <popey> \o/ tt-rss
[17:22]  * popey coughs up http://popey.com/blog/2013/06/24/trying-out-tiny-tiny-rss-on-hp-microserver-via-juju/  ☻
[17:22] <dholbach> :)
[17:24] <NikTh> anatonia: Check out Ubuntu-Tweak (Janitor) http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[17:27] <anatonia> thank you NikTh
[17:35] <jono> folks, get your questions in
[17:35] <jono> start them with 'QUESTION', e.g:
[17:36] <jono> QUESTION: what is happening with foo?
[17:36] <Frontside180> Question: When can we expect a working "alpha" of Ubuntu Mobile?
[17:36] <nagu> QUESTION : Can i run the touch build in VM?
[17:37] <nagu> QUESTION : Is there anything like trystack.org (packstack version) for juju ?
[17:39] <ahayzen> QUESTION: In the transition to Mir/Unity8 for the desktop will all the features be same as in Unity7. Such as Workspaces, Always on top etc, or will these initially be delayed due to developer time constraints?
[17:41] <Frontside180> QUESTION: When can we expect a working "alpha" of Ubuntu Mobile?  (forgot the capitals)
[17:42] <benkaiser_> QUESTION: Who is the Australian Carrier that joined the Ubuntu CAG?
[17:43] <dholbach> emankcin, was it so bad? :)
[17:44] <nagu> Thanks for your clarification on my questions :) keep rocking..
[17:45] <jono> any more questions, folks?
[17:45] <Frontside180> Thanks guys! I guess I'll need to reinstall it soon :)
[17:47] <dholbach> it will definitely be here: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/carrier-advisory-group
[17:47] <dholbach> (hum, or if it's going to be listed anywhere, it'll be on that page :-))
[17:48] <benkaiser_> dholbach, thanks, I looked there before, but couldn't find it anywhere
[17:48]  * dholbach nods
[17:48] <udit> #QUESTION: Will mir support switching opengl full screen applications/games?
[17:49] <snwh> QUESTION: how much influence does the carrier advisory group have to the development of Ubuntu, etc.?
[17:49] <dholem> #QUESTION : I'm still trying to wrap my head around xmir. Is xmir a temporary implementation that will eventually be replaced or a permanent part of mir?
[17:50] <bregma> udit, that's one of the requirements for Mir on the desktop, yes
[17:50] <kgunn> ahayzen: just following up on your question....in terms of timing....remember we're on a journey
[17:51] <kgunn> for unity8 we are really focusing on making a product for phone....with an eye
[17:51] <udit> oh that's wonderful news
[17:51] <ahayzen> kgunn, thanks :) ... what is expected or the 14.04LTS Desktop?
[17:51] <kgunn> on eventually converging that into the desktop experience
[17:51] <Frontside180> QUESTION: Again on mobile, is there an official place to download the latest release?
[17:51] <Frontside180> or the press release was kept up-to date?
[17:52] <kgunn> ahayzen: might be a bit early for me to make too many comments wrt unity8 in the 14.04lts context
[17:52] <jcastro> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/
[17:52] <jcastro> has the latest images
[17:52] <Frontside180> Thanks!
[17:52] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install for instructions
[17:52] <jcastro> you don't really need to manually DL if you use phablet-flash
[17:52] <kgunn> dholem: xmir...will be a "long" temporary step i think
[17:53] <ahayzen> kgunn, thts fine i understand, thanks for ur help
[17:53] <dholem> Got it. Thanks!
[17:53] <Frontside180> Okay, so the installer was updated, I should have retryed.. I head jono saying he was using it for the past 2 weeks, I take it as basic functions works?
[17:53] <kgunn> dholem: altho we do plan for an eventual "rootless x" for all those legacy apps
[17:53] <Frontside180> *heard
[17:54] <jcastro> Frontside180: it makes and recieves calls and texts.
[17:54] <kgunn> dholem:for the unity8/mir config
[17:54] <kgunn> dholem: hope that helps
[17:54] <dholem> It does thanks
[17:54] <Frontside180> jcastro: Is there a way to add contacts and/or delete the example ones?
[17:55] <jcastro> http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html
[17:55] <jono> jcastro, can you post www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiACHBktsA0 to /r/Ubuntu
[17:56] <Frontside180> thanks jcastro!
[17:56] <dholem> That was great guys. Thanks for the updates!
[17:57] <jcastro> jono: yep


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[17:39] <black_silence> hi. installing 18.10 on a laptop right now, but installing the bootloader failed (because it tried to install on the sd card I used to boot -.- ) after selecting /dev/sda the installer doesn't do anything when I click ok. is there an easy way to install it later?
[18:15] <black_silence> looks like I had to choose manual partitioning, select internal disk everywhere, then go back and continue with automatic partitioning.
[19:48] <naveedta> hi there
[21:46] <puff> Hi folks.  I'm on 16.04.05 LTS xenial.  A week or so ago I did an overdue update and when it came back up, the toolbar virtual desktop display was gone.  Nothing I can do seems to bring it back.  I do right-click/Panel/Add To Panel and select "Workspace Switcher", click the "Add" butotn, nothing visible happens.
[21:48] <brainwash> puff: does the item appear in the item list?
[22:20] <puff> brainwash: "item" and "item list" mean what?
[22:21] <puff> brainwash: I also have a dropdown list window switcher, that still works and all my windows show up on it, and they're grouped by virtual workspace, and I can ctrl-alt-arrow to move among the workspaces.
[22:21] <puff> I just don't have the in-panel display of them.
[22:22] <brainwash> puff: panel preferences > items
[22:22] <puff> I did figure out that Menu/Settings/Workspace gives me a dialog to set the number of workspaces, and that seems to stick across reboots.
[22:23] <puff> brainwash: Yes, and about a dozen times... I guess my repeated attempts to add it.
[22:23] <puff> Should I delete all of those?
[22:26] <puff> Also have about 8 "launchers", not sure what that's about.
[23:00] <puff> Hm, deleted all of the workplace switcher items, closed panel prefs, tried adding workplace switcher again, same result, doesn't show up on the panel but shows up in panel prefs/items.
[23:01] <puff> Hm, weird... okay, I removed a couple of other things and now it shows up.  Guess it was collapsed by too many things.
[23:01] <puff> Oh no, wait, that's not the switcher, it's just showing more icons for open windows.
[23:03] <puff> But if I re-add workplace switcher, now it's back.


[00:27] <erichammond> rolo: With the default /etc/ssh/sshd_config there is nothing special which needs to be done other than creating ~newuser/.ssh/authorized_keys with the correct ownership and permissions on both the authorized_keys file and the .ssh directory.
[00:41] <ajaya> Official Hardy 8.04 image has kernel Linux ip-10-244-158-240.ec2.internal 2.6.24-6-xen
[00:41] <ajaya> I mean, 2.6.24-6-xen
[00:41] <ajaya> is this a custom kernel built by ubuntu. I know official amazon kernels are 2.6.16-xenU
[01:16] <ajaya> anyone?
[01:19] <ajaya> I am building a custom CentOS4.7 for a client and it would really help if I know what kernel I can use..
[01:20] <ajaya> judging by the amount of init scripts issues that r fixed in official ubuntu images, I am wondering building a image from scratch is worth it or not?
[01:32] <erichammond> ajaya: Canonical Hardy image ami-5d59be34 uses kernel image aki-6e709707 which is custom built by Canonical.  I don't know if it would work with CentOS.  Note that it has "beta" in the manifest bucket, so I don't know if it will be permanently supported.
[01:34] <ajaya> erichammond: thank you. so that means Amazon does allow third-party custom kernels. though through special relationship I presume
[01:34] <erichammond> ajaya: Correct.  I believe they include Canonical, Red Hat, Solaris.  I'm not sure if Oracle needed a special kernel.
[01:35] <erichammond> ajaya: Many of the Canonical ec2-init startup scripts have been marked fixed in Launchpad, but this does not mean that they are fixed in the latest images published by Canonical.  The most recent Hardy and Intrepid images from Canonical were published in April and were the targets for many of the bug reports.
[01:36] <ajaya> erichammond: yes. I am on the mailing list of the bug reports. So I follow them closely. That was the reason I was wondering if I built a custom CentOS image I would probably run into some of those issues like network not being up before getting a IP etc.   I wish this software I am trying to install supported one if yr images.
[01:36] <ajaya> appreciate all hard work
[01:37] <erichammond> I don't understand.  Are you trying to use the Ubuntu ec2-init package with a custom CentOS image?
[01:38] <ajaya> no. I am not. just trying to learn from the ubuntu experience. I am just building custom CentOS image.. and there are not ec2 init scripts other then a copy ssh one that I hacked.
[01:38] <erichammond> got it.
[01:39] <erichammond> RightScale published their CentOS AMI building script a while back.
[01:40] <erichammond> I link to it towards the end of this talk: http://oscon2009talk.notlong.com
[01:40] <erichammond> Look for the PDF link towards the top of that page.
[01:42] <ajaya> yeah. thx for the link.
[01:42] <erichammond> RightScale has released a new series of AMIs without releasing the corresponding build script, but the older one should still give good tips.
[01:42] <ajaya> I was following this also . http://www.philchen.com/2009/02/14/how-to-create-an-amazon-elastic-compute-cloud-ec2-machine-image-ami ..
[01:43] <ajaya> anyway moment of truth. just lauched my custom image. fingers crossed
[01:43] <erichammond> Some of the startup scripts I use in http://ec2ubuntu-build-ami.notlong.com might be easy to plug in, too.
[01:45] <erichammond> http://code.google.com/p/ec2ubuntu/source/browse/#svn/trunk/etc/init.d
[01:46] <ajaya> great.. thx
[01:52] <ajaya> sure my new AMI doesn't work and no output. Moment of truth. anyway. I will dig though. thx for yr help
[11:45] <rolo> Hiya.  I'm attempting to move to using the official Ubuntu Hardy image from Eric Hammond's images.  I can connect okay as the ubuntu user, but not as my own user, I get "Permission denied (publickey)." I added my key to the authorized keys file, and infact it gets used when I connect as Ubuntu, asking me for the passphrase.  Do I need to add this other user to a special group or something? ...
[11:45] <rolo> ...Cheers in advance.
[12:21] <rolo> >	Hiya. I'm attempting to move to using the official Ubuntu Hardy image from Eric Hammond's images. I can connect okay as the ubuntu user, but not as my own user, I get "Permission denied (publickey)." I added my key to the authorized keys file, and infact it gets used when I connect as Ubuntu, asking me for the passphrase. Do I need to add this other user to a special group or something?...
[12:21] <rolo> ...Cheers in advance.
[14:06] <rolo> Is there somwhere better to go for help?
[17:45] <pwolanin> maybe I'm not looking in the right place, but is there a timeline for new "official" amis to replace those listed here?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[18:25] <erichammond> pwolanin: The only timeline Canonical has publicized is the desire to release Karmic for EC2 in October.
[18:26] <pwolanin> erichammond:  so what maes their release official?  they do additional testing on it?  Or you can only buy support for official ones?
[19:28] <erichammond> pwolanin: Canonical's release is the official Ubuntu release because they are Canonical :)
[19:40] <pwolanin> erichammond: ok, I found your comparison page - seems liek the kernel image is potentially an important difference too


[22:32] <wolfe213> Just installed ubuntu natty, how do I get my home and trash icons on my desktop?
[22:32] <japro> MeanEYE, uhm, i don't think so, its the cuda toolkit and i downloaded the 64bit version
[22:32] <coz_> wolfe213,  not sure that you can but hold on
[22:33] <japro> i think it's the other way around libGL is only present in lib32 and the linker doesn't find a libGL when i just hit make
[22:33] <wolfe213> well you def can, cause every other distro that uses gnome works that way.. heh.. I could make shortcuts or links but rather it just be the normal icons
[22:33] <MeanEYE> Technicus: fstab changes maybe?
[22:33] <japro> actuall
[22:33] <coz_> wolfe213,   open gconf-editor... maneuver to apps/nautilus/desktop and see if you can enable them from there,, I have not tried but that is where you can do it if it works
[22:34] <Smozious> Hey guys, should I keep a RAID 1 setup in BIOS or setup RAID 1 in Ubuntu?
[22:34] <Smozious> Right now I am unable to detect my raid 1 hard drives in Ubuntu with them set up with BIOS
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> wolfe213: control center > desktop settings
[22:34] <SIFTU> Smozious: ubuntu
[22:35] <MeanEYE> japro: That doesn't make sense.
[22:35] <Smozious> Ubuntu 11.04 sorry
[22:35] <RadarG> does anyone know the proper syntax to search  . for all files belonging tp a certain user and move them to a directory?
[22:35] <Smozious> I currently have two 160GB sata drives
[22:35] <japro> MeanEYE, what part?
[22:35] <MeanEYE> japro: That make doesn't detect 64bit libs.
[22:35] <Smozious> I am doing a practice run on how to recover a raid 1 drive if it dies or gets disconnected
[22:35] <Smozious> But I cant even get the OS to install on them
[22:35] <SIFTU> Smozious: no setup software raid in ubuntu..  most MB RAIDS are software only anyway and are built for windowsdrivers. with the linux RAID 1 you can always get your raid back on another machi ne if your MB dies
[22:36] <japro> so what I did: remove ubuntus nvidia drivers, install cuda development drivers (64bit), install cuda tools (64bit), install cuda sdk samples (generic version)
[22:36] <Smozious> Okay, so if one of the hard drive goes down, can it just be unplugged and the other one boots like normal?
[22:36] <japro> and now i can't compiler because it doesn't find libGL
[22:36] <MeanEYE> japro: Hm, you have propriatary drivers?
[22:37] <SIFTU> Smozious: well yes and no :).. if you have grub installed on both :)
[22:37] <Smozious> But they are mirrored...
[22:37] <japro> MeanEYE, i need to for cuda
[22:37] <SIFTU> Smozious: by the partitions.. the MBR isnt
[22:37] <Smozious> Oh, why not?
[22:37] <SIFTU> its not in a partition
[22:38] <SIFTU> Smozious: but it's quite easy to install grub on both HDD's
[22:38] <Smozious> I'm guessing it doesnt mirror Window's MBR either eh?
[22:38] <MeanEYE> japro: Hm, sorry, I don't have that much experience. Did you take a look at that link I gave you?
[22:38] <MeanEYE> japro: From nVidia forums
[22:38] <japro> yes, but it doesn't cover my problem
[22:39] <Smozious> What do you need to do to install grubs on both HDDs?
[22:39] <SIFTU> Smozious: the windows mbr gets over written by grub, and grub boots both linux and win
[22:39] <szal> japro: any specific reason to build the nVidia driver yourself?
[22:39] <Smozious> These hard drives are only going to have Linux on them, i was just asking if windows did that too for a future reference...
[22:39] <japro> szal, i need the cuda development drivers
[22:39] <MeanEYE> SIFTU: win boot manager can boot linux (in theory) :D
[22:40] <SIFTU> MeanEYE: well never tried that.. you
[22:40] <MeanEYE> SIFTU: just heard of it. I don't use windows for some time now. :) Nor do I plan on using it again.
[22:40] <Smozious> Okay, do you have a recommended guide on setting RAID 1 up in Ubuntu then?
[22:40] <MeanEYE> japro: sorry I can't be of more assistance. :(
[22:40] <szal> MeanEYE: the XP bootloader sure can (did that once w/ the W2k bootloader, which was the same)..  as for the Vista/Win7 bootloader, dunno
[22:41] <japro> MeanEYE, thx for trying :D
[22:41] <KM0201> Smozious:  a guide?.. don't think so.. but you'll probably need to use either the ubuntu-server cd, or the alt. cd.. i've set up a raid 1 w/ the server cd lots of times
[22:41] <Smozious> So you don't think the normal desktop version will work?
[22:42] <KM0201> Smozious: i'm almost certain of it (it might, but i don't think so)
[22:42] <SIFTU> Smozious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[22:43] <NathanWW> does anyone know of a debian or ubuntu based LVM like whats being done at http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org?
[22:43] <Smozious> Thanks, can you give me a link to installing Grubs twice as well?
[22:43] <japro> ok it just got even more confusing, there are three versions of libGL.so in usr/lib
[22:44] <japro> one without number won with .1  and one with .270.41.19 (which is the driver version)
[22:44] <Dulcin> So, I'm wondering if I"m doing this right: If I want a group of people to have access to /var/www and be able to do anything in there, should I create a group for it, and chmod the www folder to 755 and everything in it to 775?
[22:44] <japro> maybe the makefile is broken and somhow messes with the lib path
[22:50] <japro> MeanEYE, szal, turns out libGL.so was a broken symbolic link -.-
[22:51] <MeanEYE> japro: Heh, great. So much expertise and no one could have remembered that.
[22:51] <sburwood1> Is there a list of network devices (usb, pci, or pcie) that are "guaranteed" to work with Ubuntu, whether it be 32 or 64 bit
[22:52] <sburwood1> like there is with Sane for the scanners
[22:52] <soreau> oh yea.. make sure to check your libGL.so
[22:52] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: Ubuntu has a list of certified hardware. Most of drivers are in kernel so I hope they have a list too. :D
[22:53] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: I ask that question because I haven't yet found something to help me with the installation of a USB Wifi key from D-link
[22:53] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: Does `lsusb` command list it?
[22:54] <Gnea> sburwood1: yes, there is
[22:54] <Gnea> !wifi
[22:54] <Gnea> sburwood1: ^^^ look at that URL, there's a link to officially supported devices
[22:54] <sburwood1> %Octobre > >  > > 1 et 2 : retransmission de notre conférence générale > >  > > 8 : journée du Temple et de la famille > >  > > 9 : jour de jeûne et de témoignages (demander un jeûne spécial pour > > soeur JoséeMeanEYE : lsusb does, but something called iwlist scan doesn't find it
[22:55] <szal> sburwood1: ?
[22:55] <sburwood1> szal: What?
[22:55] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: And what `ifconfig -a` shows?
[22:56] <szal> sburwood1: what's that French stuff about?
[22:56] <sburwood1> szal: I messed up something.  A copy paste error
[22:59] <NathanWW> does anyone know of a ubuntu based solution for this "Virtual server is a highly scalable and highly available server built on a cluster of real servers. The architecture of server cluster is fully transparent to end users, and the users interact with the cluster system as if it were only a single high-performance virtual server"
[22:59] <sburwood1> szal: I have something strange to say about the list of certified hardware from D-Link.  I have a DWA-135, but the CD that comes with it speaks of a DWA-123.   Up top it said ~mez@ubuntu/member/mez so I came here
[23:00] <isaac> wat now?
[23:01] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: I did ifconfig without prefacing with sudo.  It came back with no reference to the Wifi key I have
[23:02] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: Which thing is the most interesting to look at, eth0, lo, or vboxnet 0?
[23:03] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: eth0 is you ethernet, vboxnet is virtual nat for vbox
[23:04] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: lo = loopback
[23:05] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: When I did  do lsusb, it came back with Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2001:3c17 D-Link Corp.
[23:05] <sirninja> I'm buying a wireless card for my computer. If I get an intel one am I pretty saf with ubuntu compatibility?
[23:05] <compaq> gnome monitor preferences shows my monitor as unknown and it says 1024x768 at 0Hz.... what do I do? I use a 82845GL Intel integrated graphicz
[23:05] <MeanEYE> sirninja: Intel is one of Linux's biggest contributors, so I guess you are safe with that choice. I've never had anything Intel that didn't work.
[23:06] <MeanEYE> compaq: Is everything working as expected?
[23:06] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: can you give me the exact model?
[23:06] <compaq> MeanEYE, yes but i want to use a resolution like 1280x960
[23:06] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: As far as I can tell (nothing is written on the key), it is a DWA-135
[23:06] <MeanEYE> compaq: Do you have an option to switch to higher resolution?
[23:06] <compaq> also my monitor shows it as 60Hz
[23:07] <compaq> MeanEYE, its stuck at 1024x768 and theres nothing else
[23:07] <compaq> 60Hz is eye cancer pretty much
[23:07] <szal> on a CRT yes, on a flat panel not
[23:07] <compaq> i'm on a CRT
[23:07] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: Oh, that one...  I could be wrong but installing windows drivers for such poorly supported devices is th eonly way if you ask me.
[23:09] <compaq> freedom07, 16'' HP 7650 CRT
[23:10] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: can you give me a crash course in playing with ndiswrapper?
[23:10] <compaq> SIFTU, 82845GL integrated Intel graphics.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/695891/
[23:10] <sburwood1> and installing windows drivers
[23:10] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:10] <MeanEYE> That should help.
[23:10] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: Can't hurt
[23:11] <SIFTU> compaq: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:11] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: Well, ask someone else to confirm that I gave you the right link. Am not sure. Haven't played with ndis for some time now. ndisgtk comes preinstalled on Mint so I never had any problems with the installation itself but I never used windows drivers. Looks simple and easy to use.
[23:12] <compaq> SIFTU, no
[23:12] <sburwood1> MeanEYE: I am hesitant whenever someone tells me that something is easy
[23:12] <SIFTU> compaq: you do have some badness happening in there :)
[23:13] <MeanEYE> sburwood1: I said it looks easy to use :D ... I can make it complicated for you if you wish :D
[23:14] <compaq> SIFTU, so i should make a config?
[23:15] <SIFTU> compaq: can you paste the output of "lspci|grep VGA"
[23:15] <compaq> SIFTU, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[23:16] <SIFTU> compaq: and lately "uname -a"
[23:16] <SIFTU> *lastly
[23:16] <compaq> Linux compaq-desktop 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[23:17] <IamTrying> When i  check gst-inspect Decklinksrc it says "No such element or plugin 'decklinksrc'". Which package i have to install?
[23:19] <compaq> SIFTU, highlightan you incase you didnt see my uname -a
[23:21] <japro> MeanEYE, yay, everything works now :D 750 gflops while running the nbody sample
[23:21] <SIFTU> compaq: yeah i was looking at bugs
[23:21] <MeanEYE> japro: Great. :D
[23:21] <SIFTU> compaq: its like this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/155112
[23:26] <geth022> Hi, i'm having some problems with my soundcard, specifically the output jack, can anyone help?
[23:27] <whois1423> just looking for someone to talk. anyone? im pretty bored
[23:28] <bazhang> !ot | whois1423
[23:28] <urlin2u> whois1423, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:29] <whois1423> urlin2u, thanks, im new here
[23:29] <alkafoo> geth022: laptop?
[23:29] <sirninja> I'm having difficulties with my current wireless card. It's detected fine and can list and connect to most networks, but can't connect to wpa enterprise. It's listed as an rt3092.
[23:29] <urlin2u> whois1423, no problem, just giving you the place.
[23:29] <geth022> Hi, i'm having some problems with my soundcard, specifically the output jack, can anyone help?
[23:29] <alkafoo> geth022: laptop?
[23:29] <geth022> ohp, sorryk, yea
[23:30] <alkafoo> geth022: first go through alsamixer looking for muted channels, hit TAB if you run out of ones to check
[23:30] <alkafoo> geth022: then you'll want to look at laptop model values you can pass to alsa's config
[23:30] <alkafoo> or go to linux-laptop.net and you might luck out and get exactly the info you need
[23:31] <nac-godfather> sirninja, is the wpa network unsecured, or using a wpa passphrase?
[23:31] <Chaser> Was trying to create usb startup disk on 10.04 and I get segmentation fault with usb-creator!
[23:31] <geth022> I guess i am not familiar with "laptop model values" and etc. :(
[23:32] <sirninja> nac-godfather: it's Wpa enterprise, with Protected EAP and MSCHAPv2
[23:32] <geth022> i got to the alsamixer thing but i am not familiar with which channel i am looking fo
[23:32] <alkafoo> geth022: just look for ones that are muted or have low levels
[23:33] <nac-godfather> if you have pulseaudio  installed, (probably), issue "/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[23:33] <nac-godfather> "
[23:33] <nac-godfather> then see if sound works
[23:34] <alkafoo> geth022: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Is_ALSA_using_the_correct_model.3F
[23:34] <alkafoo> it's just his laptop headphone jack
[23:34] <nac-godfather> any good movies I should check out tonight
[23:34] <geth022> alkafoo: so what i'm looking for is a set of levels that are below both the white AND the green? So like set to zero?
[23:35] <JasonGriffee> has anyone gotten runescape to work in ubuntu?
[23:36] <alkafoo> geth022: you're trying to rule out ALSA being configured to have your output jack muted or with volume so low you don't hear it
[23:36] <alkafoo> geth022: but it's probably going to end up being a model/config issue
[23:36] <nac-godfather> yeah, why don't you just test the sound properties.  Try alsa, pulse, etc.
[23:36] <wdy> 5
[23:36] <geth022>  alkafoo: ok, i hear absolutely no sound, the thing is, prior to now there had been one time where it HAD given output to my speaker
[23:36] <alkafoo> JasonGriffee: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22runescape%22%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[23:36] <nac-godfather> until you get one that works
[23:37] <nac-godfather> speaking of which, mine isn't at the moment ha
[23:37] <alkafoo> geth022: ...which was connected to your headphone out?
[23:37] <nac-godfather> Anyone here got a multimedia plugin to work with firefox amd64?
[23:37] <nac-godfather> like vlc or gecko or mplayer
[23:37] <geth022> alkafoo: indeed
[23:37] <cburgess> Anyone have any expierience using preseed to customize the install process?
[23:38] <JasonGriffee> alkafoo: Seriously? Can't I use FF or chrome?
[23:38] <alkafoo> JasonGriffee: what?
[23:39] <MasterOfMinutia> Good day, folks.  I am attempting to alter my default TTL.  I have succeeded in changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl via sysctl, and have verified that the change does in fact occur.  However, pinging google.com gives the same TTL back no matter what I set ip_default_ttl to.  I am connecting via wifi on a laptop.  Ideas?
[23:39] <alkafoo> geth022: check the connections, check with a different cable, check the speaker with a different output source
[23:39] <JasonGriffee> alkafoo: why can't i go native?
[23:40] <alkafoo> JasonGriffee: oh it's Java =P
[23:40] <IamTrying> In Ubuntu 10.04 and 11.04 i always get this, what i can do to fix it any idea? # gst-inspect decklinksrc No such element or plugin 'decklinksrc'
[23:40] <alkafoo> JasonGriffee: if it's not working you probably need a different JRE/version
[23:41] <JasonGriffee> alkafoo: how?
[23:41] <alkafoo> find in your package manager, then install
[23:41] <MasterOfMinutia> IamTrying:  Was that directed to me?
[23:41] <h0pi> Network: WARN-Firewalled And Fast
[23:41] <h0pi> how can i solve this?
[23:42] <wolfe213_> how do I move my window controls to the right? whatever setting has them on the left is overriding all themes
[23:42] <geth022> alkafoo: the connections are fine as far as they can go, i checked it with my phone and ipod, both played,
[23:43] <SIFTU> JasonGriffee: you want sun-java probably
[23:43] <alkafoo> geth022: ok, maybe you updated some software
[23:44] <KM0201> wolfe213_: on 11.04
[23:44] <KM0201> ?
[23:44] <JasonGriffee> SIFTU: software center?
[23:45] <geth022> alkafoo: what do you think i should do?
[23:45] <IamTrying> MasterOfMinutia: yes, how can i get this now?
[23:45] <wolfe213_> KM0201: yes
[23:46] <alkafoo> geth022: I'd probably search 'laptop model here' + "jack" site:ubuntuforums.org first
[23:46] <KM0201> wolfe213_: this might work.. not sure..  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
[23:46] <urlin2u> wolfe213_, gconf-editor
[23:47] <wolfe213_> see the wierd thing is this is the 2nd change I've made now in gconf-editor.. and I kept my home dir from debian so wth it even has these settings is confusing to me
[23:48] <SIFTU> JasonGriffee: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/695909/
[23:48] <urlin2u> wolfe213_, keeping the same home across distros is not really recomeneded.
[23:49] <wolfe213_> urlin2u: I replaced debian wheezy with 11.04 so I should have all these gnome settings already
[23:49] <wolfe213_> f'n with a users settings isn't recommended if you ask me.. heh
[23:49] <urlin2u> wolfe213_, keeping the same home across distros is not really recommended.
[23:50] <Kingsy> I have some r01 r02 etc files..   Not hard.
[23:52] <alkafoo> geth022: what's the laptop model?
[23:52] <geth022> Toshiba Satellite L655D
[23:52] <SIFTU> wolfe213_: all the dot files for the DE and WM will be int he home.. you could clear these out.. or rename the home dir and create a new user and copy accross the stuff you want
[23:52] <alkafoo> geth022: like this: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22l655d%22%20%22jack%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[23:52] <wolfe213_> w/e there is no need to erase or backup home.. worst case you just move it out of the way if there are issues
[23:52] <petester> win goto 1
[23:53] <wolfe213_> at any rate its not an issue here.. so we can stop talking about it
[23:53] <geth022> alkafoo: sorry, i'm kind of an imbecile when it comes to Ubuntu
[23:53] <angel56> wolfe213_: I agree with SIFTU, just delete the hidden files and folders that contain the possible config issues
[23:53] <computerx> I have an entry, set via crontab -e, starting @reboot, but it's not running and I don't see any log entries about it...
[23:53] <alkafoo> geth022: just a general internet search tip
[23:53] <wolfe213_> everything works fine except for the fact that I have ubuntu default gnome configs and I'm trying to change that.. so my configs, your configs none of that matters
[23:53] <Kingsy> anyone? am I missing somethin?
[23:53] <jrib> computerx: how are you determining that it is not running?
[23:54] <alkafoo> geth022: second link thread in results seems to have a solution for you, have fun
[23:54] <geth022> alkafoo: ohh, okay, i forgot how to do that with google :P
[23:54] <Kingsy> or could the rar just be corrupt?
[23:54] <jrib> !helpme | Kingsy
[23:54] <SIFTU> computerx: that only gets run after a reboot.. not shutdown powerup
[23:54] <alkafoo> wolfe213_: Debian and Ubuntu don't even use the same versions or configurations of GNOEM
[23:54] <alkafoo> GNOME
[23:54] <geth022> alkafoo: kk, thanks dude!
[23:54] <wolfe213_> I got my desktop icons back, manually hacking gconf, fixed my panels.. last issue is the buttons on the wrong side of the window
[23:54] <alkafoo> Kingsy: unrar-free, while free, is occasionally inferior to the non-free version
[23:55] <alkafoo> wolfe213_: I think you were already given a link for fixing that, no?
[23:55] <Kingsy> alkafoo: so should I just install unrar?
[23:55] <alkafoo> Kingsy: yeah
[23:55] <wolfe213_> indeed I was, and its not working so far
[23:55] <computerx> jrib: It's my own script, and it's not running :p
[23:55] <alkafoo> Kingsy: or whatever the proprietary package is called
[23:55] <urlin2u> !repeat | KingPin
[23:55] <petester> win grow 3
[23:55] <alkafoo> wolfe213_: sudo workplz
[23:55] <jrib> computerx: pastebin your crontab
[23:56] <KingPin> o.0
[23:56] <computerx> SIFTU: Really? Then what about the command for start up?
[23:56] <petester> god those forward slashes are killing me
[23:56] <alkafoo> KingPin: people are a little bot happy in here, don't worry about it
[23:56] <KingPin> rgr
[23:56] <alkafoo> petester: ?
[23:56] <computerx> jrib: No need, it's small: @reboot /home/computerx/to-encode/start-encoding
[23:56] <SIFTU> computerx: put the command in /etc/rc.local before the exit 0
[23:56] <jrib> computerx: pastebin your script
[23:56] <JasonGriffee> SIFTU: it doesn't like the fist line
[23:57] <wolfe213_> ah it would seem I missed the menu: part
[23:57] <alkafoo> wolfe213_: you misser you
[23:57] <Kingsy> alkafoo: thanks
[23:57] <SIFTU> JasonGriffee: hmm try without the quotes
[23:57] <alkafoo> Kingsy: working now?
[23:57] <computerx> jrib: Again, not neccessary, aside from some cd/rm/mv it's just: nohup php lampedEncoderDriver.php &
[23:58] <jrib> computerx: you need a shebang
[23:58] <wolfe213_> now I am off to recompile hedgewars I guess.. since that too is broken now.. heh.
[23:58] <jrib> computerx: and you probably need to provide full paths to the programs you call if they aren't in the PATH that cron uses
[23:58] <Max229> Silly question, but how do I erase the contents of a CD/DVD so that I can burn something on it again?
[23:58] <computerx> jrib: I do, #!/bin/bash, which is valid because until now I've used it directly. The path however, is a great idea. I'll add that in.
[23:58] <jrib> computerx: and you need a space after 'cd'
[23:58] <SIFTU> jrib: @reboot ONLY works after being issued a reboot.. if you shutdown and powerup.. it will not be run
[23:59] <jrib> SIFTU: not true
[23:59] <petester> (5.5 * 1.004) E (24-38)
[23:59] <computerx> Yeah, I doubted the restart thing tbh
[23:59] <pn> hay guys i am having a problem :: need python binding for libvte ?????
[23:59] <bazhang> petester, stop that please
[23:59] <pn> what that means
[23:59] <SIFTU> jrib: really?
[23:59] <jrib> SIFTU: from crontab's man page: @reboot        Run once, at startup.
[23:59] <pn> been looking in the synaptic no result