[08:10] <thinman1189> xtknight: a while ago I fiddled with the settings. the font is too big and some things are distorted. I was hoping that restoring to the default settings would fix it.
[08:10] <aimee> xtknight....nope
[08:10] <Nehal> oh i see
[08:10] <xtknight> aimee, alright well i did see one problem with the output
[08:10] <aimee> xtknight, what was that
[08:10] <xtknight> aimee, type "sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox/libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[08:11] <xtknight> aimee, this will remove an old corrupted version of java
[08:11] <xtknight> thinman1189, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure libxft` /might/ fix it...
[08:11] <xtknight> thinman1189, actually libxft1 or libxft2
[08:11] <xtknight> libxft2 i guess.
[08:12] <mon^rch> how long will ubuntu keep the repo's open for the out-dated distro's if I choose to keep a distro will I still be able to update it?
[08:12] <xtknight> repos for Hoary and breezy are still open aren't they?
[08:12] <xtknight> probably quite awhile
[08:12] <ant-> its like 2yrs
[08:12] <ant-> they are supported
[08:12] <xtknight> well dapper will haev to be open for at least 5
[08:12] <ant-> heh
[08:12] <PanzerMKZ> I thought dapper was 6 years
[08:13] <PanzerMKZ> the whole LTS stuff
[08:13] <xtknight> maybe
[08:13] <xtknight> 5-6 something
[08:13] <RoC_MM> 3 on desktop, 5 on server
[08:13] <Nehal> unfo: where can i find the info about which CDs have debian-installer on it?
[08:13] <xtknight> !alternate | Nehal
[08:13] <ubotu> Nehal: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:13] <aimee> xtknight, think i did something wrong ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13323/
[08:14] <xtknight> aimee, looks like it worked.  it would return nothing
[08:14] <RoC_MM> server is pretty impressive, basic install was like sub-500 megs and only 15MB of ram usage after it booted.
[08:14] <aimee> okay
[08:14] <xtknight> aimee, now type this "killall firefox-bin"
[08:14] <PanzerMKZ> yea I am using server now. it is pretty sweet. First thing to do though is install openssh
[08:15] <xtknight> aimee, restart firefox and try the pogo site again
[08:15] <unfo> Nehal: if you want the more advanced installer, which that doc u mentioned talks about, you'll need the alternate CD.  It's easier to just install the standard way and edit the grub config file easily leter.
[08:15] <aimee> xtknight. okay did that
[08:16] <thinman1189> xtknight: got it, thanks for the help.
[08:16] <senaqu1> anyone got any urls or info on getting software raid (md) working on ubuntu edgy, or at least getting it to cooperate with udev?
[08:16] <ant-> !raid
[08:16] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:16] <senaqu1> thanks ant :-0
[08:16] <bright_fame> my laptop often freezes on boot with "BUG:soft lockup detected on CPU#0" i suspect the builtin wireless is the problem. how should i stop the wireless being setup during boot (it's using ipw3945 module)? can i tell the kernel to never load this module?
[08:16] <thinman1189> !gaim
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[08:16] <aimee> xtknight, brb
[08:17] <Priest-of-Psi> man I cant even work with 8 desktops anymore
[08:17] <Priest-of-Psi> hehehe
[08:17] <xtknight> the joy of having java problems for an hour and a half
[08:17] <xtknight> i can just feel the pain
[08:18] <shirish> guys can somebody help me in setting up a printer, it's an epson r230 which is connected to a windows machine
[08:18] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: thats not good buddy
[08:18] <xtknight> supposedly this user has tried to get java working for 3 weeks lol
[08:18] <smick> I'm getting beryl instructions here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Adding_Beryl_repository
[08:18] <senaqu1> oh, i've read those already, raidconfiguration is geared towards dmraid with its limited sataraid (fakeraid) support
[08:18] <xtknight> im already tired after an hour
[08:18] <nooblmao> the sound on my computer stopped working and I don't know where to begin (the speakers are not broken)
[08:18] <xtknight> ;P
[08:18] <smick> are these the easiest for ubuntu?
[08:18] <senaqu1> !md
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <thinman1189> xtknight: seriously, what is it with java? it just doesn't seem to want to work.
[08:18] <xtknight> i dont know..sun used to hate open source or something
[08:19] <xtknight> and now they /are/ open source but the binaries aren't
[08:19] <xtknight> or something
[08:19] <xtknight> i wish i knew
[08:19] <RoC_MM> that's confusing
[08:19] <umop_> When I talk into my mic I can hear the sound come out of my speaker, but i cant record the sound in any apps, how do i fix this?
[08:19] <ozzloy> where are the images for the screensaver "cosmos" stored?  is it available online somewhere?
[08:19] <xtknight> i dont think the repositories have the open source version yet
[08:19] <ricky> does anyone know what's the package's name that make your desktop like when is rain?
[08:19] <xtknight> hence the agreement license
[08:19] <xtknight> ricky, compiz or Beryl
[08:19] <xtknight> ricky, lot more than a package though.  requires a compositing server
[08:19] <bulmer> thinman1189: whats wrong with your java?
[08:20] <ricky> xtknight thnx
[08:20] <xtknight> aimee, any luck?
[08:20] <Priest-of-Psi> ricky: beryl FTW
[08:20] <xtknight> or same old tired errors?
[08:20] <aimee> xtknight, well rebooting didnt help still says i have no java
[08:20] <xtknight> aimee, alright.  i'll need the site/game you're trying.  you did link me to a site before but it was only an error message.  i'd need the actual game you're trying that is failing so i can see where the problem lies.
[08:20] <aimee> had java yesterday
[08:20] <bulmer> aimee how did you install it?
[08:20] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: whats in /opt/java?
[08:20] <aimee> lol
[08:20] <xtknight> i dont think Jesus himself could fix it
[08:21] <xtknight> although i dont believe /opt/java is a standard dir in any package
[08:21] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: its either opt/java
[08:21] <Priest-of-Psi> or /bin/java
[08:21] <Nehal> unfo: nah.. i don't mind.... i installed slackware 5 years ago.. so i think i can handle it :)
[08:22] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: what does whereis java return? and which java
[08:22] <bulmer> no its in /usr/bin/java
[08:22] <ajmorris_> anyone successfully run wine 0.9.9 here?
[08:22] <Priest-of-Psi> oh
[08:22] <teenbeat2007> whats the difference between wine and wineX
[08:22] <unfo> Nehal: then i think u can handle it too :)
[08:22] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, it seems to appear in her abuot:plugins for Firefox
[08:22] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, although a partiular site (pogo) does not want to recognize it
[08:22] <unfo> teenbeat2007: do not use winex.
[08:22] <aimee> xtknight, i cant get a url for you only the one with the error message...pick a game and i cant play it
[08:23] <Priest-of-Psi> did she install it via firefox?
[08:23] <teenbeat2007> unfo: Why is that
[08:23] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, nope. sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:23] <unfo> teenbeat2007: it is an old version of a commercial fork of wine.  It is useless nowadays.
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> hi
[08:23] <teenbeat2007> unfo: problems
[08:23] <aimee> priest of psi, it worked yesterday with pogo
[08:23] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, she seems to haev about three java installs somehow
[08:23] <unfo> If you use wine, use at least 0.9.15 or better.
[08:23] <teenbeat2007> unfo: ah ok
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> i am having a problem with my screensaver and screen lock function
[08:23] <xtknight> had broken java 1.4docs package on there a secon dago
[08:23] <xtknight> second ago**
[08:23] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: thats  not good
[08:23] <ajmorris_> so no one has run wine 0.9.9 then?
[08:23] <Lgndryhr> help would be much appreciated
[08:23] <xtknight> fixed that.  now we can't get java 1.5 working at all.
[08:23] <xtknight> so i'd suggest java 1.6 next
[08:23] <zulfajuniadi> sc
[08:23] <teenbeat2007> unfo: is there something better than wine
[08:24] <xtknight> java6 packages, in backports you'd have to have her enable it
[08:24] <bulmer> where did she install her java 1.5?
[08:24] <xtknight> bulmer, ubuntu package
[08:24] <aimee> the wierdest thing is that it worked until last night
[08:24] <senaqu1> teenbeat2007: transgaming, cedega, vmplayer, crossover .. depends what you want to do
[08:24] <unfo> teenbeat2007: VMware Server is much better but hard to install.
[08:24] <bulmer> no i meant which directory?
[08:24] <Priest-of-Psi> unfo: check out virtual box
[08:24] <xtknight> aimee, well you did seem to have updates available.  try this. "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:24] <xtknight> aimee, who knows it could reveal something..
[08:24] <Priest-of-Psi> its much better then vmware
[08:24] <thinman1189> bulmer: sorry for the delay. For some reason a particular java client takes up 40% of my cpu in windows but completely destroys me in ubuntu. It takes up 100% and can still barely function.
[08:24] <Xteven> hi there, I'm looking for a gnome applet in ubuntu, that can watch a logfile and notify me when a new line appears in that file. I want to use it to notify me of special events in syslog
[08:25] <unfo> teenbeat2007: vmware server is closed-source freeware.  It works well for anything except DirectX gaming.
[08:25] <unfo> what do you want to do?
[08:25] <senaqu1> teenbeat2007: apt-get install vmplayer :-) you can use a tool to generate your .vmx files for your specific configuration
[08:25] <xtknight> aimee, output of both of those commands would also be helpful
[08:25] <unfo> Xteven: what events do you care about?
[08:25] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm having issues with my packages. I'm trying to update and it's telling me my software index is broken, so I run sudo apt-get -f install, but python-uno fails to install and everything stays broken.
[08:25] <xtknight> AzMoo, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:25] <teenbeat2007> unfo: can i play bf2 with it
[08:25] <bulmer> thinman1189: how many java clients you know you are running?
[08:26] <Priest-of-Psi> teenbeat2007: use virtualbox or cedega
[08:26] <Xteven> unfo: all kinds, I plan to monitor several things in the background with cron, and log events in that logfile so I can get notifications
[08:26] <xtknight> don't think you can play bf2 until you get Xen with Intel VT extensions and graphics card virtualization
[08:26] <xtknight> good luck
[08:26] <Xteven> unfo: for example, if a host goes down, or if I have new mail
[08:26] <aimee> xtnight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13324/
[08:26] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: virtualbox works
[08:26] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, lol not for BF2 ?
[08:26] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, i'll have to try this
[08:26] <thinman1189> bulmer: I've only attempted to run that one client, that I know of.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[08:27] <aimee> xtknight, wrokin onit
[08:27] <Kotik> FUCK YOU ALL
[08:27] <Kotik> =)
[08:28] <aimee> workin even
[08:28] <Kotik> !ops
[08:28] <thinman1189> xircx: it's called vlc media player.
[08:28] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: ?
[08:28] <Priest-of-Psi> there are clips on youtube of people running vista in virtualbox
[08:28] <Xteven> unfo: maybe there is, but I'm looking for something generic. monitoring a host is just an example
[08:28] <bulmer> thinman1189: you may have to set the memory size it uses..try java --help
[08:28] <ajmorris_> unfo, i am using 0.9.34 but i want to use 0.9.9
[08:28] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: got him
[08:28] <jenda> Damn you're fast
[08:28] <teenbeat2007> unfo: is virtualbox also running on 7.04
[08:28] <unfo> ajmorris_: why do you want to use unsupported software?
[08:28] <Burgundavia> ugh, ok
[08:28] <unfo> teenbeat2007: yes
[08:28] <thinman1189> bulmer: please excuse my ignorance, try what?
[08:29] <teenbeat2007> unfo: ok because im upgrading now
[08:29] <ajmorris_> unfo, it is supposed to be able to install more apps
[08:29] <xtknight> i have no idea how Virtualbox virtualizes the graphics card
[08:29] <xtknight> doesn't sound right to me
[08:29] <RoundyT1> anyone wanna help me install a sound card that doesn't seem to be working?
[08:29] <xtknight> not w/ 3D support
[08:29] <xtknight> pretty much no way in 10 yrs that's happening
[08:29] <unfo> xircx: did you mean xtightvncviewer maybe?
[08:29] <bulmer> thinman1189: java -help may tell you which param you can set for memory, either that or google for setting memory usage of java
[08:29] <unfo> ajmorris_: i doubt it
[08:29] <teenbeat2007> unfo: what about ati video cards is that also improved in feisty
[08:30] <unfo> teenbeat2007: if you upgrade to 7.04 we cannot provide you with tech support here anymore.
[08:30] <Xteven> unfo: there is metamonitor for example, but it's not packaged in ubuntu I believe
[08:30] <xtknight> feisty has easier installation of ATI and NVIDIA drivers
[08:30] <teenbeat2007> ok
[08:30] <xtknight> unfo, well we can next month, no?
[08:30] <xtknight> :P
[08:30] <unfo> teenbeat2007: you'll have to go to channel ubuntu+1
[08:30] <RoundyT1> anyone wanna help me install a sound card that doesn't seem to be working?
[08:30] <unfo> xtknight: yes
[08:30] <teenbeat2007> ok im ask them there then, thanx anyway
[08:30] <Fujitsu> xtknight: Only 18 days :)
[08:30] <xtknight> yuppers
[08:30] <aimee> xtknight, holy crud this is takin forever
[08:31] <aimee> lol
[08:31] <^^CatTuX^^> ALL: Is anybody free? :(
[08:31] <xtknight> you're telling me
[08:31] <xtknight> heh
[08:31] <xtknight> all this for java?
[08:31] <zulfajuniadi> ^^CatTuX^^: yes
[08:31] <xtknight> is it worth it??
[08:31] <Hobbsee> ^^CatTuX^^: yes, you can.  you can modify it however you like, according to the GPL
[08:31] <xtknight> :P
[08:31] <aimee> xtknight, what i dont understand is why it worked yesterday and doesnt today
[08:31] <Priest-of-Psi> http://www.virtualbox.org/ <[08:31] <xtknight> aimee, me neither
[08:32] <aimee> xtknight, if youre gonna stick it out be prepared to use it....lmao
[08:32] <RoundyT1> I need help installing a SOUNDBLASTER LIVE 24BIT for my desktop. It's installed via PCI and I can't seem to get it to work. also, If I was wondering if it still plays in 5.1.....can anyone help?
[08:32] <Phineas> I just set up a samba share between my Ubuntu box and XP box.  I can see files on Ubuntu but do not have permission to add from XP.  Would this be an attribute of the "share"?
[08:32] <joh1> can someone send me a message
[08:32] <xtknight> aimee, lol
[08:32] <^^CatTuX^^> Hobbsee can i create a custom Ubuntu Derivative for my class fellows and university fellows just to help them in studies by embedding some more packages in the default ubuntu installation?
[08:32] <RoundyT1> joh1, sent message.
[08:32] <xtknight> aimee, i recommend a reinstall unless you want more hours of debugging.  i'm not sure i'm willing to spend any more time on a broken install at the moment
[08:32] <aimee> xtknight, im a funny girl
[08:33] <Xteven> also, there is "watchpost", yet not packaged in ubuntu :(
[08:33] <Hobbsee> ^^CatTuX^^: yes, as long as it follows the GPL.
[08:33] <aimee> xtknight, so just go to synaptic and reinstall?
[08:33] <xtknight> aimee, i mean reinstall ubuntu
[08:33] <Flannel> ^^CatTuX^^: you might be interested in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06 nd/or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[08:33] <xtknight> aimee, you will probably have a working system faster than trying to fix this archaic impossible java problem
[08:33] <^^CatTuX^^> Flannel: Great!
[08:33] <aimee> xtknight, oh hell how do i do that
[08:33] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: I personally will remove all java packages and reinstall
[08:33] <xtknight> aimee, i will redirect you to Priest-of-Psi for now
[08:34] <RoundyT1> joh1, sent message.
[08:34] <RoundyT1> I need help installing a SOUNDBLASTER LIVE 24BIT for my desktop. It's installed via PCI and I can't seem to get it to work. also, If I was wondering if it still plays in 5.1.....can anyone help?
[08:34] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: does Edubuntu not already suit your needs?
[08:34] <aimee> xtknight, thank you so much for tryin to help
[08:34] <^^CatTuX^^> So i can customize ubuntu as long as its for educational purposes and it is under GPL?
[08:34] <xtknight> aimee, slightly disappointed although we got rid of the Java 1.4 docs at least
[08:34] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: For any purpose at all.
[08:34] <aimee> priest of psi, we have tried that
[08:34] <stdin> RoundyT1: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth ?
[08:34] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, sort of
[08:34] <xtknight> :P
[08:34] <^^CatTuX^^> unfo: Nope that for international students, We are university students here, we need some more packages to be embedded... :(
[08:35] <^^CatTuX^^> Fujitsu: Really?
[08:35] <aimee> xtknight, i  know me to...lol...can we still be friends....lol
[08:35] <RoundyT1> stdin, ha, been every where but that one...i'll go check it out (thanks)
[08:35] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: which?
[08:35] <xtknight> needs to nuke java 1.1-1.6 and every single thing.  i recommend "locate java | xargs -l1 sudo rm -rf" personally
[08:35] <thinman1189> I'm trying to use a rollerball mouse but ubuntu doesn't recognize the extra buttons. how can I configure the buttons? I tried system>preferences>mouse.
[08:35] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: awww cute :D
[08:35] <thadthudpucker> who do i ask about getting archive manager to open a .rar file?
[08:35] <dan20> !mouse buttons
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mouse buttons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <Flannel> ^^CatTuX^^: definately go the alt. CD route (install CD), because it's got a lot more room for packages.
[08:35] <dan20> !many buttons
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about many buttons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <dan20> !mouse
[08:35] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[08:35] <Priest-of-Psi> thadthudpucker: install unrar
[08:35] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: That's the point of free/open source software.
[08:35] <aimee> priest of psi, lmao
[08:35] <thadthudpucker> thanks
[08:35] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm having issues with my packages. I'm trying to update and it's telling me my software index is broken, so I run sudo apt-get -f install, but python-uno fails to install and everything stays broken.
[08:36] <dan20> !many buttons | thinman1189
[08:36] <thinman1189> dan20: thanks
[08:36] <dan20> np :)
[08:36] <xtknight> (more dpkg problems) /me prays
[08:36] <xtknight> AzMoo, post errors on pastebin
[08:36] <Priest-of-Psi> AzMoo: try apt-get update && apt-get ugrade
[08:36] <^^CatTuX^^> Fujitsu: Hmmm I LOVE Open Source ;) :P Great Help Provided by you guys, so now i can be at ease that no one can sue me if i work under GPL
[08:36] <Flannel> unfo: Edubuntu is really suited for a classroom client/server thing.   For desktops, its better to go Ubuntu, and install the Edubuntu games/themes/etc
[08:36] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: so lets remove java
[08:36] <dan20> xtknight: I read all through the many buttons page for mice, and I followed the directions as best I could, but I'm not getting any results
[08:36] <Priest-of-Psi> all the package
[08:36] <unfo> Flannel: ah.
[08:36] <aimee> azmoo, and be prepared to wait a million years
[08:36] <^^CatTuX^^> Do i have to get a license from ubuntu developers or anyone before working on it? can they sue me for not letting them know?
[08:37] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: remastering your own CD will be a hassle and take hours.  It is 100% free and legal to do it but it is a waste of time unless you have 100 clients or more.
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> ^^CatTuX^^: its GPL
[08:37] <aimee> priest of psi, can i do that while im still doing the upgrade thing
[08:37] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: No, that's fine.
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> go google GPL
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: nah
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> !GPL
[08:37] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[08:37] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: Better to just use fanout and fanterm.
[08:37] <enkidu1016> i kinda killed my x server and it wont start anymore.when i boot up it locks on the startup spash screen and i dont know what it is locking on.. is there a way to disable the splash bootup scree ?
[08:37] <enkidu1016> sreen..
[08:37] <aimee> priest of psi, well then i guess we have to wait....lol
[08:38] <umop_> When I talk into my mic I can hear the sound come out of my speaker, but i cant record the sound in any apps, how do i fix this?
[08:38] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: Or walk to each PC and install the software you need.
[08:38] <AzMoo> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13325/
[08:38] <Crazytom> !fwcutter
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fwcutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: its ok its 9am here I jst woke up
[08:38] <unfo> umop_: sorry you're having trouble... maybe try www.ubuntuforums.org if nobody here can help
[08:38] <^^CatTuX^^> well my university students are willing to use it, if i made it worth.
[08:38] <xtknight> thank god because it's 2am here
[08:38] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: how many students?
[08:38] <^^CatTuX^^> and hopefully i will get prayers of many students, atleast 300
[08:38] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: where you from bud?
[08:38] <bulmer> ^^CatTuX^^: look for ubuntu remastered in google  you'd find your answers
[08:38] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, united states
[08:38] <umop_> unfo, may get to that soon.
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> ah
[08:39] <aimee> xtknight, here too....tired of me already....lmao
[08:39] <unfo> umop_: you'll save time :)  or maybe ##hardware
[08:39] <Sacarah> hi all
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> Sacarah: sup
[08:39] <zulfajuniadi> hello Sacarah
[08:39] <thinman1189> dan20: I'm not sure which one to use. my mouse is usb but it's plugged into the mouse port with an adapter(because acronis bootloader doesn't recognize usb devices)
[08:39] <unfo> ^^CatTuX^^: make a trial group of 10 students.  Give them normal ubuntu and tell them how to install more packages themselves using the Add/Remove tool.
[08:39] <unfo> See how they like it.
[08:40] <unfo> If they like it THEN consider remastering Ubuntu.
[08:40] <dan20> thinman1189: You need to install imwheel first
[08:40] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi,  next step i recommend for aimee on this issue.  "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin java-common libgcj7-0 libgcj-common"
[08:40] <^^CatTuX^^> unfo: and?
[08:40] <xtknight> and later, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:40] <dan20> thinman1189: I'm actually trying to figure it all out with my mouse too.
[08:40] <enkidu1016> anyone able to tell me how to disable the boot splash screen.. and my x is dead.
[08:40] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight:  yeah I said the same thing
[08:40] <unfo> don't make your own distro yet, until you run a trial first.
[08:40] <Sacarah> does anyone recommended making partitions with beta 7.04?
[08:40] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, then try java1.6 from backports instead.  1.5 may be borked with the pogo site
[08:40] <dan20> thinman1189: I have an MX518 from Logitech and I'm trying to get the thumb buttons to actually work
[08:40] <zulfajuniadi> enkidu1016: alt+ctrl+f1
[08:41] <dan20> thinman1189: :  No luck yet
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: well if it worked before 1.5 will work again
[08:41] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi,  .so is loaded but site fails to recognize it.  possibly a 1.4 install was on her PC before when it /did/ work.
[08:41] <bulmer> Priest-of-Psi: you're having difficulty installing java?
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> I think its just a firefox thing
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> bulmer: no
[08:41] <xtknight> proably
[08:41] <xtknight> bulmer, aimee is
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> helping aimee
[08:41] <bulmer> ahh okay..l
[08:41] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, first thing that happened was a broken java 1.4.  we removed it forcefully then installed java 1.5 instead.
[08:41] <enkidu1016> zulfajuniadi: the problem there is it dose not show the proccess it just says booting kernel
[08:41] <Fujitsu> enkidu1016: When you see the boot menu at startup, select the normal entry, press e twice, remove the `splash' bit, and follow the on-screen instructions to boot that, I've forgotten the last couple of steps.
[08:41] <xtknight> i assumed 1.5 would work better but maybe she needs 1.4 again, which is what i'm guessing she had when it worked before
[08:42] <dan20> thinman1189:  You should use the first link, not the serial mouse link.
[08:42] <zulfajuniadi> enkidu1016: what distro are you using?
[08:42] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: So lets move back to 1.4
[08:42] <thinman1189> dan20: my mouse is also logitech, not sure the model number though. it's a trackball that you move with your pointer finger :s
[08:42] <ricky> does anyone know how can i exec compiz?
[08:42] <aimee> priest of psi, okay the upgrade update thing has finished
[08:42] <aimee> xtknight, seriously thanks for all your help
[08:42] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, sounds good
[08:42] <enkidu1016> Fujitsu:cool. thanks
[08:42] <xtknight> aimee, no problem and good luck
[08:42] <dan20> thinman1189: If it's PS2 or USB you should use the first link, if it hooks into a serial port, then you need the second link.
[08:42] <xtknight> AzMoo, taking a look at it
[08:42] <dan20> !many buttons | thinman1189
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about many buttons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Priest-of-Psi> brb I need some java in my cup :P
[08:43] <ry> Hi - quick question! I just installed a game called 'Enigma' from Add/Remove programs, but its not in my Applications list under any of the categories! (I rechecked add remove programs and Enigma is ticked to indicate it has been installed) Any ideas? Thanks guys
[08:43] <thinman1189> dan20:okay, thanks.
[08:43] <Priest-of-Psi> ry: try and execute enigma via console
[08:43] <ry> how do i do that?
[08:43] <dan20> ry:  Did you look under the "Games" menu?
[08:43] <xtknight> AzMoo, doesn't look good.  maybe "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all python-uno"
[08:43] <ry> yes dan20
[08:43] <Fujitsu> ry: It isn't added to the menus at the moment, as far as I know.
[08:43] <Priest-of-Psi> ry: open a terminal and type enigma
[08:43] <xtknight> AzMoo, how about just reistalling all of python maybe
[08:43] <dan20> ry:  Just checking :-D
[08:43] <shark> Hello all! Can anybody help me in BERYL and NVIDIA ?????
[08:44] <xtknight> shark, #ubuntu-effects and #beryl although not many may be around at this time
[08:44] <joe4444> anyone know why a 12mb "core" file would appear in my home directory?
[08:44] <Priest-of-Psi> shark: join ##beryl
[08:44] <xtknight> joe4444, core dump/debug i think
[08:44] <joe4444> caused by what?
[08:44] <Morrowyn> morning, any idea why the acpi doesnt work for me anymore in 6.10 while it worked fine with 6.06? Using a sis based laptop here
[08:44] <xtknight> Priest-of-Psi, thanks a lot for taking over this java problem also
[08:44] <nanothief> shark, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 could help
[08:45] <Priest-of-Psi> xtknight: no issues bud
[08:45] <shark> thanks a lot
[08:45] <Fujitsu> joe4444: An application crashing.
[08:45] <Priest-of-Psi> brb getting some java
[08:45] <^^CatTuX^^> Is Ubuntu Open Source Completely?
[08:45] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, completely
[08:45] <joe4444> Fujitsu, so i can just delete it?
[08:46] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: Not all of it. Everything in main and universe is, restricted and multiverse aren't necessarily.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> xtknight: That's not true.
[08:46] <Priest-of-Psi> ^^CatTuX^^: yes except for the gfx drivers :D
[08:46] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, there are things people use regularly on ubuntu that are not open source. but they can not legally be enabled by default
[08:46] <^^CatTuX^^> can i get ubuntu source to study?
[08:46] <xtknight> thus ubuntu itself i'd say is completely oepn source
[08:46] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: Of course :)
[08:46] <^^CatTuX^^> hmmm and from where?
[08:46] <xtknight> ubuntu stock is :P
[08:46] <ry> wicked thanks
[08:47] <aimee> priest of psi, sorry chat stuck http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13326/
[08:47] <joe4444> Fujitsu, so can i delete the core file?
[08:47] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: `apt-get source somepackage' will download the source for that package into the current directory.
[08:47] <Fujitsu> joe4444: Sure.
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> yep, all of us bastardize ubuntu by using closed source items... ;)
[08:47] <joe4444> k, thanks
[08:47] <xtknight> we...taint the kernel
[08:47] <bulmer>  http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ <-- for copy of orielly kernel book
[08:47] <xtknight> i'm guilty of it
[08:47] <thinman1189> dan20: it won't let me change the file, says I'm not root.
[08:47] <^^CatTuX^^> hmmm and how to download whole source as one file :P ? you give me penny, i will ask for a dollar :P
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> xtknight: me to, mainly with media codecs
[08:47] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, what do you want the source code for?
[08:47] <xtknight> 'nvidia' here but that's all
[08:47] <xtknight> i think
[08:47] <dan20> thinman1189: Are you doing it from the command line or using the GUI?
[08:47] <xtknight> oh flash player
[08:48] <^^CatTuX^^> nothing, just study.... what else?
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> xtknight: forgot about that.
[08:48] <thinman1189> gui
[08:48] <xtknight> errr
[08:48] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, i misphrased that
[08:48] <thinman1189> dan20: gui
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> xtknight: wasnt' there an open source flash player in the works?
[08:48] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, for which package do you want the source code?
[08:48] <xtknight> IndyGunFreak, gnash but it sucks right now
[08:48] <dan20> thinman1189: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch12s02.html
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[08:48] <xtknight> caused me OOM (out of memory) and constant crashes
[08:48] <xtknight> in general  i dont think it's good anyway
[08:49] <^^CatTuX^^> well as such i don't know, coz you see i am going for development and customization
[08:49] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, there are about 5 buillion and a half packages to customize.  but to answer your question you can not download the whole source as one big file
[08:49] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: The entire source would be about 20 gigabytes, and is in a lot of files.
[08:49] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, they are a bunch of packages welded together by config files.
[08:49] <bulmer> aimee if it was me I would have left those gcj java stuff..i dont know now if you can re-install those easily,
[08:49] <^^CatTuX^^> WOW! 20GB? i don't have that much space :(
[08:50] <xtknight> bulmer, apt-get install -f will do it
[08:50] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, for starters, linux-source package gives you the core of the OS
[08:50] <shirish> hello everybody, I'm able to send a test page to a windows 98 enabled printer but nothing else, what could be happening?
[08:50] <Fujitsu> ^^CatTuX^^: Hence why you shouldn't grab all of it. There's little reason to have 95% of that stuff.
[08:50] <the-realfool> someone told me to run kanotix in here to figure out what was messing up my ubuntu install...who was it?
[08:50] <^^CatTuX^^> hmmm xtknight  and from where to get that?
[08:50] <aimee> bulmer, im not sure what to do, all i know is my java worked yesterday and doesnt today
[08:50] <dan20> thinman1189: The only other way to do it, is by the terminal.  If you're not comfortable using terminal commands (cd, mkdir, rm, etc) then I would suggest just reading that link about using the GUI.
[08:50] <xtknight> ^^CatTuX^^, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:50] <Priest-of-Psi> ok back
[08:51] <aimee> bulmer, we did have a freakin tornado and my wireless went down
[08:51] <the-realfool> someone told me to run kanotix in here to figure out what was messing up my ubuntu install. Im on Kanotix now but i dont know what to do
[08:51] <bulmer> aimee: what was the last command you did for java related stuff?
[08:51] <shirish> the job gets stopped each time, anybody has any idea?
[08:51] <^^CatTuX^^> how to get it using Windows? cz right now i am on windows :(
[08:51] <aimee> bulmer, but that shouldnt have caused my java to quit
[08:51] <xtknight> g'night
[08:51] <aimee> bulmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13326/
[08:51] <Priest-of-Psi> later xtknight sleep well
[08:52] <shirish> I'm using dapper, anybody PLEASE HELP
[08:52] <aimee> xtknight, good night and thanks again
[08:52] <bulmer> aimee: i saw those, and saw my comments regarding gcj stuff?  i wud not have remove those myself
[08:52] <Priest-of-Psi> bulmer: I think java is the only package that uses that
[08:52] <aimee> bulmer, did see your comments but was too late
[08:52] <ricky> does anyone know the package's name that make a nice toolbar only for icons?
[08:52] <Rohinton> shirish: what's the problem?
[08:53] <Priest-of-Psi> so after that she can just reinstall java
[08:53] <shirish> Anybody knows any good channels for printing?
[08:53] <Priest-of-Psi> shirish: ##samba
[08:53] <bulmer> yeah she can re-install just the Sun java and do without that gcj java (crappy)
[08:53] <aimee> priest of psi, i think we have tried that already
[08:53] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: nope
[08:54] <Priest-of-Psi> hmmm
[08:54] <shirish> thnx Priest-of-Psi :)
[08:54] <aimee> priest of psi, okay well hit me with your best shot
[08:54] <Priest-of-Psi> I must build a mail component for php
[08:54] <Priest-of-Psi> was that good enough?
[08:54] <aimee> ouch
[08:54] <Priest-of-Psi> :P
[08:55] <aimee> thank you sir may i have another....lmao
[08:55] <the-realfool> someone told me to run kanotix in here to figure out what was messing up my ubuntu install. Im on Kanotix now but i dont know what to do
[08:55] <Priest-of-Psi> ok aimee install java like you did before
[08:55] <Priest-of-Psi> the java plugin
[08:55] <Rohinton> the-realfool: what's the problem?
[08:55] <aimee> priest of psi, from synaptic?
[08:55] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: what was your initial problem?
[08:55] <Priest-of-Psi> add/remove programs
[08:55] <Priest-of-Psi> I dont like synaptic
[08:56] <the-realfool> installer hangs
[08:56] <Priest-of-Psi> I actually prefer using good old apt
[08:56] <the-realfool> and when i tried the text line installer it wouldnt mount cd drive
[08:56] <Priest-of-Psi> the-realfool: what version of ubuntu
[08:56] <Priest-of-Psi> ?
[08:56] <aimee> priest of psi, i will do that but you have to give the commands cuz im new at this
[08:56] <Priest-of-Psi> ok hold let me find it
[08:56] <the-realfool> i was trying to install 7.40
[08:56] <Priest-of-Psi> ok
[08:57] <the-realfool> 6.10 regular or alternat wouldnt work
[08:57] <the-realfool> they would just hang
[08:57] <Meshezabeel> Looks like the name "linux" was never trademarked, Microsoft just trademarked that name to use with MSLinux. It is now going to deny its use in all other distributions...check http://www.mslinux.org/
[08:57] <Crazytom> anyone know if an x fi soundblaster card is supported by ubuntu yet?
[08:57] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: tried synaptic?
[08:57] <Rohinton> the-realfool: have you checked the download/burn was ok?
[08:57] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:57] <the-realfool> synaptic?
[08:57] <umop_> I can'tIs anyone able to help me to get my mic to work with the ASLA drivers>
[08:57] <Priest-of-Psi> from a terminal
[08:57] <the-realfool> roh - yes.
[08:57] <oddie> anyone using 'compiz'? I have just installed and my consol is white when loading it in gui?
[08:58] <AzMoo> xtknight, I can reinstall python because it fails when it tries to remove python-uno. I can't remove that manually either, because it fails on the pre-removal script :\
[08:58] <AzMoo> s/can/can't
[08:58] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: yes, system -> admin -> synaptic... it should fix your broken packages... if thats your problem
[08:58] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: join #ubuntu-effects
[08:58] <unfo> oddie: fedora currently has better 3D window support built in :(
[08:58] <aimee> priest of psi, said it couldnt find package
[08:58] <Rohinton> the-realfool: but you get into the live setup? when there can you moount the cd?
[08:58] <ricky> does anyone know the package's name that make a nice transparent menu with icons in the desktop?
[08:58] <Meshezabeel> oddie, haven't used compiz, but beryl works fine for me
[08:58] <the-realfool> im on kanotix right now.
[08:58] <Priest-of-Psi> hmmmm
[08:58] <unfo> oddie: but it works equally well in ubuntu:  you just have to set up some things yourself.
[08:58] <Crazytom> Meshezabeel, after having paid the purchase price and annual renewal fees.
[08:59] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: apt-cache search sun-java
[08:59] <Priest-of-Psi> what do you see?
[08:59] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: the live cd version?
[08:59] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: pm?
[08:59] <the-realfool> no
[09:00] <the-realfool>  alternate
[09:00] <the-realfool> 7.40 alternate**
[09:00] <aimee> priest of psi, ok
[09:00] <aimee> and
[09:00] <Meshezabeel> Crazytom, yes microsoft is even considering charging a small seat fee to everyone using a linux kernel
[09:00] <aimee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13327/
[09:01] <Rohinton> the-realfool: not sure if that's useful kanotix. test booting 7.04 live cd - then try mounting cd...
[09:01] <mzuverink> ok, i got the modem to work via gnome-ppp, I installed all the relevant packages, but I cannot get a dialtone at all, any dial up users have experience with this, and does it matter that I am connected to a wired ethernet connection as well phoneline?
[09:01] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: although it is based on debian as well, i think it's better if you try the kanotix channel
[09:01] <the-realfool> where can i get the live CD.
[09:01] <Poopette> by post!
[09:01] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: is your nick registered?
[09:01] <zulfajuniadi> the-realfool: why don't you try ubuntu?
[09:02] <the-realfool> ..
[09:02] <the-realfool> it wont work
[09:02] <Poopette> false!!!
[09:02] <Poopette> it work better than other OS like W...
[09:02] <the-realfool> everytime i put the ubuntu disc in and boot up and hit enter. it freezes
[09:02] <Rohinton> the-realfool: let's get back to basics
[09:02] <Xteven> is there some kind of generic graphical notification system in ubuntu ?
[09:02] <aimee> priest of psi, not that i know of
[09:02] <Poopette> liveCD or full installation ?
[09:03] <aimee> priest of psi, its just my name
[09:03] <the-realfool> full
[09:03] <Poopette> mm
[09:03] <Priest-of-Psi> ok aimee do the apt-cache search sun-java
[09:03] <Priest-of-Psi> and pastebin
[09:03] <Crazytom> the-realfool, how long do you wait?
[09:03] <Rohinton> the-realfool: get the live cd see if that works first.
[09:03] <Priest-of-Psi> the-realfool: do me a favour and reset you bios to defaults
[09:03] <the-realfool> first time it hung i waited 40 mins
[09:03] <coldfish> hi. Is initNG still under development? Do u suggest to install ?
[09:04] <Rohinton> the-realfool: have you changed your bios stuff?
[09:04] <Guerrand> now i heard a rumour that feisty was to be released today .... but i dont see anything apperin yet :(
[09:04] <dan20> the-realfool: How is your computer hooked to your monitor?  DVI to DVI, DVI to VGA, VGA to VGA?
[09:04] <aimee> priest of psi, im confused but http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13327/
[09:04] <the-realfool> DVI to DVI
[09:04] <dan20> Oh, nevermind then.
[09:04] <Crazytom> the-realfool, reloading bios defaults is a good idea but if that doesn't work start it and go to lunch or something
[09:04] <Meshezabeel> Guerrand, microsoft is now in charge of Feisty, it might not be released after all
[09:04] <aimee> priest of psi, i thought pm
[09:04] <bulmer> mzuverink: what have you done so far to test it?
[09:04] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: your nick has to be registered
[09:04] <dan20> the-realfool: I had a similar symptom, but mine was b/c I was going from DVI to HDMI
[09:05] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:05] <the-realfool> when i hit Start or Install Ubuntu. a red par pops up bounces twice. and freezes
[09:05] <dan20> dan20: I naever got that issue resolved either, I just had to settle with VGA to VGA
[09:05] <aimee> oh for heavens sake....ive been talkin to you in the other room....lol
[09:05] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: you use msn?
[09:05] <mzuverink> bulmer, I install both the repo sl* packages
[09:05] <Guerrand> meshezabeel: hahaha ... guess i better start writing my own then :P
[09:06] <Morrowyn> the-realfool, try a different vga options by hitting f6, i had touse vga=771 for my laptop
[09:06] <Morrowyn> maybe you need a different one though
[09:06] <mzuverink> bulmer, I ran the wvdial confid script and thatsit
[09:06] <bulmer> mzuverink: after that what did you do to test the modem? you have a working analog line plug-in to it?
[09:06] <the-realfool> what dies VGA have to do with it freezing and not mountng
[09:06] <dennisharrison> anyone know offhand what the package for feisty kernel headers is ?  2.6.13, I can't find it in synaptic
[09:06] <mzuverink> bulmer, the line works
[09:06] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: installing?
[09:06] <Crazytom> ok fine i get it noone wants to help me install a soundcard.  i understand, it's not like it would actually work anyway.  I bought too new of one.  so what soundcard should i buy to use with linux?  I have an onboard but i'm trying to take some load of the computer by using a pci card
[09:07] <aimee> priest of psi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13328/
[09:07] <bulmer> mzuverink: did you attempt to issue Hayes AT commands to the modem? what were the responses?
[09:07] <aimee> priest of psi, no yahoo
[09:07] <Priest-of-Psi> ok aimee
[09:07] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[09:07] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: search 'kerna' in synaptic
[09:07] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: search 'kernal' in synaptic
[09:07] <Morrowyn> maybe it doesnt load the svgalib properly or something before it can do the rest
[09:07] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, kernel ?
[09:08] <umop_> Is anyone able to help me to get my mic to capture with the ALSA drivers?
[09:08] <mzuverink> bulmer, no ideahow to do that these are my init strings, hold on, though it does dial out with gnome-ppp
[09:08] <dan20> Crazytom: Go to www.linuxsound.org I believe they have a matrix of all manufacturers and if it's supported or not, and what driver you need.
[09:08] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: yes, my bad :D
[09:08] <dan20> Crazytom: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[09:08] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, I did that and can't find the source/headers or anything similar
[09:08] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: Thanks I'll have a look there now
[09:09] <dennisharrison> this is my first time using ubuntu since like .. version 4 something was in flight :)
[09:09] <Crazytom> dan20, it's not listed in the first one
[09:09] <oddie> unfo: thank you
[09:09] <dennisharrison> so, I am not sure what the package is called for sure
[09:09] <aimee> priest of psi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13329/
[09:09] <bulmer> mzuverink: you can google for Hayes AT commadn  ATH to hangup ATDT dial using tone
[09:09] <vismac> que tal
[09:09] <Rohinton> the-realfool: or try #ubuntu-laptop
[09:09] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: have you reloaded?
[09:09] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: ?
[09:09] <mzuverink> bulmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13330/
[09:09] <dan20> Crazytom: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[09:09] <Crazytom> dan20, i'm pretty sure it's not supported so i'm asking you guys what i should buy.  what would work out of the box
[09:09] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: Thanks for the info about ubuntu effects channel
[09:10] <unfo> oddie: fixed?
[09:10] <Priest-of-Psi> ah
[09:10] <Priest-of-Psi> np
[09:10] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, doing so now, synaptic should show everything from apt-cache right ?
[09:10] <oddie> unfo: not yet
[09:10] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: I prefer beryl over compiz
[09:10] <bulmer> mzuverink: you can google for Hayes AT commadn  ATH to hangup ATDT dial using tone <-- try this two for now
[09:10] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: yes, it should
[09:10] <unfo> oddie: you're welcome anyway :)
[09:10] <dan20> Crazytom: Yeah, it's not supported.  The reason why is, is that Creative isn't working with developers to get support created.
[09:10] <Morrowyn> how so? doesnt beryl and compix gonna fuse anyways?
[09:10] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: i assume you have enabled all repositories right?
[09:10] <dan20> Crazytom: That list would show you all Creative Labs cards that are supported, so you could just buy one of those.
[09:10] <enpx> evrybody speak german?
[09:11] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, yes indeed, I checked all the boxes in synaptic if thats what you mean :)
[09:11] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: any luck
[09:11] <dan20> Crazytom: My Creative Soundblaster Live 24-bit works out of the box with Ubuntu.
[09:11] <Crazytom> i'm wondering what would work out of the box?
[09:11] <Crazytom> thanks
[09:11] <dan20> Crazytom: Anything on that list that shows it's supported would probably work out of the box.
[09:11] <Meshezabeel> Crazytom, why do you think yours won't work?
[09:11] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: are you using 6.10 or 7.04?
[09:11] <dan20> Meshezabeel: It's not supported.
[09:12] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, 7.04 fully updated and running kernel 2.6.13
[09:12] <aimee> priest of psi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13329/
[09:12] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: u mean 2.6.20-13?
[09:12] <Meshezabeel> ah, ok, lol :)
[09:12] <Crazytom> Meshezabeel, i've tried it with about 5 different distros and none of them worked
[09:12] <Sacarah> how do i back up firefox bookmarks to use in linux after i format
[09:12] <Sacarah> ?
[09:12] <bulmer> aimee your dependencies on java-common   <-- you need to get this repaired
[09:12] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, you caught me, that is exactly what I mean :)
[09:13] <Pipgirl> Meine Mutters Familie kommt aus Deutschland.
[09:13] <dan20> Crazytom:  Yeah, it will take a while for the support to be written because Creative is being uncooperative
[09:13] <mzuverink> anyone have a hayes compatable modem the could share their init script with me, the page i found id all greek to me
[09:13] <aimee> bulmer. how?
[09:13] <Sacarah> wowzer
[09:13] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: yes... have you tried searching again?
[09:13] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: did you add extra repos?
[09:13] <Pipgirl> Anyway:
[09:13] <bulmer> aimee am not sure  maybe  aptget -install java-common ?
[09:13] <Crazytom> i've been waiting about 6 months already, i'll just buy a new card
[09:13] <aimee> priest of psi, did exactly what you said
[09:13] <Pipgirl> I got a new external hard drive and I need to figure out how to format it to ext3
[09:13] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, well now that I am using 2.6.20-13 I see everything I need :)  much nicer thens earching for 2.6.13
[09:14] <dennisharrison> thanks mate!
[09:14] <Pipgirl> It's an I/O Magic 320GB
[09:14] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: no with xtknight did you add backports?
[09:14] <Pipgirl> Anyone have any ideas? I've looked around on google
[09:14] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: yw.. :D
[09:14] <dennisharrison> ahh .. I have .21 installed
[09:14] <aimee> priest of psi, dont know dont think so
[09:14] <dennisharrison> guess I need to reboot again
[09:14] <bulmer> Pipgirl  you can try  fdisk /dev/sda  and from there choose the ext3
[09:14] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: hmmm
[09:14] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: what are arch are you trying to install? i386?
[09:15] <Pipgirl> When I view the partition table for it it gives 4 entries and says it doesn't look like a partition table
[09:15] <Crazytom> zulfajuniadi, whatever the normal one is i always forget
[09:15] <aimee> priest of psi, xtknight said i need to reinstall the whole ubuntu thing he thought
[09:15] <dennisharrison> zulfajuniadi, alright, now im going to go dive into inotify to see if I can get it doing something worthwhile for me via pyinotify, w00t
[09:15] <dan20> Crazytom: i686 probably
[09:15] <Priest-of-Psi> nah
[09:15] <dennisharrison> thanks! :)
[09:15] <dennisharrison> gnight
[09:15] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: are you trying to install it on a desktop / notebook?
[09:16] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: did you see what bulmer said?
[09:16] <dougie> !paste
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:16] <zulfajuniadi> dennisharrison: good luck man!
[09:16] <bulmer> Pipgirl: umm i dont know, if thats what you get reading it..i dont know how to fix that
[09:16] <Pipgirl> nvm I figured it out
[09:16] <aimee> priest of psi, yes i did
[09:16] <Pipgirl> I was using "fdisk /dev/sda1" instead of "/dev/sda"
[09:16] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: did it work?
[09:16] <bulmer> Pipgirl: make sure those are not mounted, and just try  /dev/sda
[09:17] <Crazytom> zulfajuniadi, i have the notebook up and running but i've been holding off on the desktop till i know the soundcard will work.  now i'll just buy a new card and then install
[09:17] <umop_> Is anyone able to help me to get my mic to capture with the ALSA drivers?
[09:17] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: what soundcard are you using?
[09:17] <bulmer> aimee am curious did that command installed  java-common?
[09:17] <aimee> priest of psi, says command line is wrong
[09:17] <Crazytom> zulfajuniadi, it's a soundblaster x fi
[09:18] <aimee> bulmer, says command line wrong
[09:18] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: apt-get install package
[09:18] <Priest-of-Psi> he left of the "-" between apt and get
[09:18] <Priest-of-Psi> :)
[09:18] <bulmer> aimee: i apologize sometimes i forget the exact command, fat fingers sometimes too
[09:18] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: lemme see
[09:19] <Priest-of-Psi> bulmer: its also not easy to type in IRC
[09:19] <Priest-of-Psi> because there is no apt-.... tab completion
[09:19] <bulmer> yep
[09:19] <Priest-of-Psi> :P
[09:19] <Crazytom> zulfajuniadi, see what?
[09:19] <pillar> I installed something just double clicking the debian package, but I now want to uninstall it.. how to go about doing that? It is not found on "Add/Remove" applications list
[09:19] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: a good book for you will be the ubuntu bible
[09:19] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: check this site http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme/
[09:20] <aimee> bulmer & priest of psi, says could not open lock file
[09:20] <Priest-of-Psi> pillar: apt-get remove packagename
[09:20] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee:
[09:20] <Pipgirl> pillar: Should be in the right-click context menu too
[09:20] <Priest-of-Psi> put sudo infront of the command
[09:20] <Priest-of-Psi> sudo apt-get install stuff
[09:20] <Priest-of-Psi>  gosh java is annoying
[09:20] <bulmer> aimee  also if you have synaptic already on, kill it first
[09:20] <MBK^home> is ubuntu doing anything for april fools day?
[09:21] <aimee> priest of psi bulmer, couldnt find package package
[09:21] <bulmer> err synaptic package manager*
[09:21] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: X FI isn't supported by ALSA yet, fyi
[09:21] <aimee> bulmer, isnt on
[09:21] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: lmao
[09:21] <Agrajag> MBK^home: yeah, they're releasinf Fiesty
[09:21] <tombow> can i change the window title of an xterm from an xterm itself?
[09:21] <MBK^home> i thought you didnt exist Agrajag
[09:21] <Agrajag> I don't.
[09:21] <Priest-of-Psi> sudo apt-get install java-common
[09:21] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme/ is a page for sb drivers
[09:22] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yes, but it doesn't cover all SB (the X Fi would be one)
[09:22] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: Installed beryl and that has the same effect... heading to ubuntu-effects thanks
[09:22] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: wait
[09:22] <Priest-of-Psi> nvidia?
[09:22] <Priest-of-Psi> did you add the rgb visual thing?
[09:23] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: This is basically for the SB Live! cards
[09:23] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie:
[09:23] <Priest-of-Psi>     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[09:23] <Priest-of-Psi>     Option         "TripleBuffer" "True"
[09:23] <aimee> priest of psi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13331/
[09:23] <Priest-of-Psi> add that to the screen section of the xorg.conf
[09:23] <Priest-of-Psi> it will work
[09:23] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: ok, my bad... unfortunately, only the commercial beta driver for Xfi are available
[09:23] <aimee> priest of psi, bulmer, this sucks
[09:24] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: this is a shot in the dark run sudo  apt-get -f install
[09:24] <Priest-of-Psi> errr
[09:24] <Priest-of-Psi> sudo apt-get -f install java-common
[09:24] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: java sucks hehe
[09:24] <Crazytom> zulfajuniadi, where would i get thqt
[09:25] <bulmer> aimee: just be patient.. :)
[09:25] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: creative sez that they would create a linux driver released second quater of '07
[09:25] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: did you get my last post?
[09:25] <acadavid> Hi all. I need to kill x server for a while but i kill it and it starts again.. how can i kill it permanently?
[09:25] <aimee> priest of psi, bulmer everything sucks and it worked till yesterday
[09:25] <Priest-of-Psi> acadavid: sudo killall gdm
[09:25] <zulfajuniadi> Crazytom: check this site http://opensource.creative.com/
[09:25] <cmatheso1> acadavid: run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:25] <acadavid> Thx priest
[09:25] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yeah, we'll see :)  I'd hang on to his current X FI, then buy something cheap like a Live 24-bit that is supported until they get support for his X FI
[09:25] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: yep im giving it a go
[09:26] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: great.
[09:26] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: i agree
[09:26] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: Screen section right
[09:26] <Priest-of-Psi> yeah
[09:26] <Priest-of-Psi> above the first subsection
[09:27] <bill__k> i'm having a hard time finding info on how to slow down my usb razer diamondback mouse.  all the sliders are left (in keyboard & mouse prefs)
[09:28] <aimee> priest of psi, i think this might be working
[09:28] <Priest-of-Psi> wohooooooooooo
[09:28] <Priest-of-Psi> good stuff!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:28] <Meshezabeel> bill__k, how fast is your hand moving when you use the mouse?
[09:28] <Assimilator2> hello all
[09:28] <Priest-of-Psi> Meshezabeel: about 6 miles per second
[09:28] <Priest-of-Psi> :P
[09:28] <Meshezabeel> lol ;)
[09:28] <bill__k> Meshezabeel: yeah
[09:29] <bill__k> maybe i'm just not used to 3 monitors
[09:29] <Meshezabeel> bill__k, ok, try slowing down your hand movement and your mouse should move slower
[09:29] <bill__k> lol
[09:29] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: its working?
[09:29] <atrus> Meshezabeel: if it's really ridiculously fast, like, jumping around the screen, you might have the wrong driver selected.
[09:29] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: any luck?
[09:29] <aimee> priest of psi, i have no freakin clue
[09:30] <Meshezabeel> bill__k, is it still fast when only one monitor is set?
[09:30] <atrus> bill__k:  if it's really ridiculously fast, like, jumping around the screen, you might have the wrong driver selected.
[09:30] <Priest-of-Psi> aimee: well the isntall done
[09:30] <Sacarah> can i install my mutterboard drivers with linux for nforce2
[09:30] <Assimilator2> I have a medion 95400 laptop and i would like to plug in an external monitor will ubuntu detect the second monitor and allow me to toggle between the two ?
[09:30] <bill__k> atrus: well, it is a veerrrry high resolution usb optical mouse (razer diamondback)
[09:31] <oddie_> Priest-of-Psi: I rebooted and it all worked....
[09:31] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie_: wohoooooooooooo
[09:31] <Priest-of-Psi> great stuff
[09:31] <dan20> bill__k:  You can force it to a lower resolution in your xorg.conf
[09:31] <aimee> priest of psi, its done but its been done before.....lol http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13332/
[09:31] <oddie_> Priest-of-Psi: Didn't need to add the lines.....cause the pc crashed
[09:31] <bill__k> dan20: what section? and line?
[09:31] <dan20> bill__k: under input devices for the mouse
[09:32] <dan20> bill__k: Option "Resolution" "800" for example
[09:32] <Priest-of-Psi> ok aimee sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[09:32] <shirish> guys can somebody help me, I want help in setting up a printer, I have samba & xinetd.d installed & also I'm able to print a test page
[09:32] <brianski> what's a good graphical process monitor for gnome?
[09:32] <bill__k> dan20: I'll try that, back in a bit.
[09:33] <ant-> a lower resolution will make it faster no?
[09:33] <Priest-of-Psi> ok aimee sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin not sun-java6-plugin
[09:33] <dan20> ant_  no, it will slow down the sensitivity
[09:34] <shirish> Priest-of-Psi: can u help me, I've had no luck at the #samba channel
[09:34] <ant-> resolution != sensitivity.. is there something i am missing?
[09:34] <aimee> priest of psi....oh crap
[09:34] <dan20> ant-:  if the mouse is set on a high resolution, it's in effect, raising the sens
[09:35] <dan20> ant-:  making it more accurate makes it more sensitive to movement.
[09:35] <ant-> i'll run with that
[09:35] <sogen> anyone know how i can install photoshop cs2 on ubuntu ?
[09:35] <bill__k> lol
[09:35] <dan20> ant-:  hence, fps gamers normally turn down resolution when playing games like CS 1.6
[09:35] <oddie_> Priest-of-Psi: ok sorry it didn't work...... what where this lines again? pc crashed...this is for besyl
[09:35] <Priest-of-Psi>     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[09:36] <Priest-of-Psi>     Option         "TripleBuffer" "True"
[09:36] <ant-> i thought they just cut down the sensitivity to slow the mouse, but what do i know
[09:36] <aimee> priest of psi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13333/ accidentally did 6
[09:36] <ant-> i thought they cut the resolution down to make the game run smoother
[09:36] <james__> how can i make linux recognise my other hard drive with windows installed on it
[09:36] <bill__k> video resolution != mouse resolution
[09:36] <dan20> ant-:  You have to fine a good relationship with the both of them.  Tuning the resolution will let you fine tune the total sens better than just tuning sens
[09:36] <shirish> guys can somebody help me in setting up a printer?
[09:37] <dan20> Yeah, he's talking specifically about the resolution of the mouse optics
[09:37] <bill__k> brb, restarting x, wish me luck
[09:37] <dan20> bill__k
[09:37] <dan20> you don't have to reboot
[09:37] <ant-> !print | shirish
[09:37] <ubotu> shirish: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:37] <dan20> ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:37] <dan20> will restart x
[09:37] <bill__k> dan20: exactly
[09:38] <bill__k> so wont that close my programs?
[09:38] <dan20> well yeah
[09:38] <dan20> lol
[09:38] <Crazytom> later
[09:38] <dan20> But i meant you don't have to actually full reboot
[09:38] <shirish> ant: thnx
[09:38] <bill__k> dan20: I know
[09:38] <dan20> ok :-D
[09:38] <bill__k> thanks
[09:38] <bill__k> :)
[09:38] <bulmer> shirish: whats wrong with your printer? is it one of those windows (GDI) only printers?
[09:39] <Priest-of-Psi> oddie: any luck?
[09:39] <arooni> what is a good cd burner program (i have a sony laptop if it matters ) ... and ubuntu 6.10
[09:40] <ant-> arooni: poeple will argue about that but gnomebaker is one
[09:40] <abuyazan> hi all
[09:40] <shirish> bulmer: It's an Epson Stylus Pro R230, its able to spit out a test page of Ubuntu but nothing else
[09:40] <abuyazan> how can i remove using windows-iso encode from locales
[09:40] <arooni> i busted my lcd on my laptop :(((  off to costco i go tomorrow to return it
[09:41] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: NOW THATS SEXY!!! works like a charm thank you friend
[09:41] <bulmer> shirish: you're using cups right?
[09:41] <abuyazan> i face problem with arabic with OO 2.1
[09:41] <ledemente> Is there a channel where I can ask about MySpace problems? I know it's lame and all, but it's kinda important.
[09:41] <deepsa> when is fiesty due
[09:41] <ant-> april 19th i think
[09:41] <andhy> arooni: kde - k3b / gnome - gnomebaker
[09:41] <bulmer> arooni: last week i saw a 22" lcd viewsonice brand for 299
[09:41] <shirish> bulmer: I don't know if I'm using cups or not, how do I make sure tht cups is running?
[09:41] <arooni> is there *any way* of saving the applicatoins i installed as a list of soemthing so when i get my new laptop, i can just enter a command, wait a couple hours and it will be all set up with the software i need?
[09:41] <bulmer> shirish: on your webbrowser type  localhost:631
[09:42] <bulmer> and see if cups is running
[09:42] <zulfajuniadi> arooni: wait for cnr coming out next month, that should do the trick... www.cnr.com
[09:42] <arooni> bulmer: i remmeber when i bought a 19" lcd for $600 and it was a good deal
[09:42] <shirish> bulmer: It shows up the Cups page
[09:42] <arooni> zulfajuniadi: i need this by tomorrow
[09:42] <ledemente> Erm... did someone reply? (Konversation was flashing) o__O
[09:42] <ant-> funny thing: google.com/tisp/install.html
[09:43] <oddie> Priest-of-Psi: thanks, why do we need vista when we have it all here??....
[09:43] <shirish> bulmer: it shows ommon UNIX Printing System 1.2.2
[09:43] <bulmer> shirish then try to manage it from that web pager
[09:43] <shirish> bulmer: left out the C
[09:44] <zulfajuniadi> arooni: then sorry m8, blanko
[09:45] <dan20> Anyone know of a remote desktop server for Linux desktops that has a Windows client?  For example, my computer at work is Windows but I'd like to remote desktop to my Ubuntu desktop at home.  Is that possible (graphical, not ssh)
[09:46] <dan20> Or can I have OpenSSH server forward X sessions to PuTTY?
[09:46] <shirish> bulmer: I'm able to print the test page but not any other page through tht, I gave 2 maintenance jobs & they both stopped
[09:46] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: rdesktop
[09:46] <gordonjcp> dan20: yes, if you're running an X server on the machine running putty
[09:46] <dan20> gordonjcp: Okay, I wouldn't be, so I guess rdesktop is my answer.
[09:46] <zulfajuniadi> owh, i got it the wrong way :D
[09:47] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: So rdesktop will serve my linux desktop to a windows client?
[09:47] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: nope, it goes the other way around, try looking into vnc
[09:47] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: It's too bad I can't just install Linux at work.
[09:47] <Agrajag> ubuntu comes with a vnc server, vino
[09:48] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: i thought you wanted to view windows from linux
[09:48] <shirish> bulmer: It did the printer test page, u there?
[09:48] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Ah, no
[09:48] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: try vnc... it should work
[09:48] <bulmer> shirish: thats should work now then..sorry i didnt realize my time..am off to bed
[09:48] <dan20> Agrajag: It's called Vino?
[09:49] <Agrajag> dan20: it's installed by default
[09:49] <dan20> Does it have a graphical frontend or is there just a config file I need to setup?
[09:49] <Agrajag> it's vino-prefernces or something
[09:50] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: graphical frontend
[09:50] <Agrajag> just type vino in a terminal and hit tab, see what comes up
[09:50] <dan20> vino-preferences :-D
[09:50] <Agrajag> it's also in the system menu somewhere
[09:50] <dan20> Where can I access that from the GUI
[09:50] <dan20> I'll just check around
[09:51] <dan20> System > Prefs >  Remote Desktop
[09:52] <syberdave> C
[09:52] <dan20> Agrajag: What is a free Windows client I can use to access this?
[09:53] <shipit> hey all, how do I install all of the development header files for my installed programs?
[09:53] <shirish> bulmer: one last thing, when I try to cancel the job, it asks for username & password, what should I give there?
[09:53] <cBau> Quick question.... I run 6.10 Ubuntu, plugged a Canon iP4000 printer in. Recognized it right away, printed test page just fine. Afterward, I tried to print an OpenOffice Doc, and it "sent" to the printer, but nothing ever happened. Any ideas? (I am relative Linux noob.)
[09:54] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: So any "vnc" windows client should be able to connect to this?
[09:54] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: yes, vnc is cross platform
[09:55] <zulfajuniadi> make that cross os :D
[09:55] <dan20> lol
[09:55] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: So for example, this http://www.realvnc.com/download.html should work
[09:55] <dan20> The free version
[09:55] <arooni> hey folks: i'm using gnomebaker... and i got this error: INFO:	UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale setting  Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,cuse -input-charset to override. mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - ''.
[09:55] <arooni> how can i fix this?
[09:56] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: lemme check first
[09:56] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yeah, I only ask to be sure, because once I'm at work tomorrow, I obviously won't be able to troubleshoot this machine lol
[09:57] <dan20> Also, someone was having this issue earlier, but gtk-gnutella will not open after I install it.
[09:57] <OddOne> can someone explain why my external usb drive doesn't show up everytime when I start ubuntu?
[09:58] <dan20> I just did the install from the Add/Remove programs dialog, and when I select it from the Applications menu, nothing happens.
[09:58] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: yes, it should work, anyhow, you should troubleshoot it at home first using eth network, before trying through the net, if you have a windows machine lying around
[09:58] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: I don't :D
[09:58] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: I only have linux/bsd machines
[09:58] <cBau> OddOne: You mean it is always plugged in, but doesn't show up every time you boot?
[09:58] <dan20> it's no big deal if it doesn't work
[09:59] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: You have any idea about this gnutella issue?
[09:59] <zulfajuniadi> too bad :(
[09:59] <dan20> Or how I could troubleshoot why it isn't opening
[09:59] <OddOne> cBau: Yes, it is always plugged in, I don't normally touch it at all.
[09:59] <cBau> weird
[09:59] <pcg2> u
[10:00] <arooni> hey folks: i'm using gnomebaker... and i got this error: INFO:	UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale setting  Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,cuse -input-charset to override. mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - ''.
[10:00] <OddOne> cBau: Yes, I know. :)
[10:00] <arooni> how can i fix this?
[10:00] <cBau> Is there a way to make it act like a permanent drive if you always have it plugged in?
[10:00] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: try running gtk-gnutella from console, see if it has errors
[10:00] <Meshezabeel> looks like freenode will be shutdown at 8:00 today, but will reopen as a fee-based sysetm
[10:01] <dan20> cBau, I would assume in your fstab would be the solution
[10:01] <Meshezabeel> This is due to its PDPC initiatives
[10:01] <yharrow> whats the ubuntu channel for non -techinical related chat?
[10:01] <cBau> yeah, add it to fstab
[10:01] <zulfajuniadi> cBau: yes,  i agree
[10:01] <cBau> I thought this was it :)
[10:01] <Assimilator2> I have a medion 95400 laptop and i would like to plug in an external monitor will ubuntu detect the second monitor and allow me to toggle between the two ?
[10:01] <yharrow> anyone?
[10:01] <cBau> Was Dan's idea
[10:02] <cBau> Assim: Depends on your video card driver
[10:02] <yharrow> Assimilator2: what video cards do you have?
[10:02] <dan20> :D
[10:02] <zulfajuniadi> yharrow: alt+c
[10:02] <zulfajuniadi> yharrow: if ur using xchat
[10:02] <Assimilator2> radeon 9600/9700
[10:02] <yharrow> I just did altc
[10:02] <yharrow> did nothing
[10:03] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: http://pastebin.ca/raw/419358
[10:03] <cBau> 9600/9700 mobile?
[10:03] <OddOne> cBau/dan20: I look in to fstab. Thanks.
[10:03] <cBau> and you are running which ATI driver?
[10:03] <yharrow> zulfajuniadi: what is alt+c for?
[10:03] <dan20> OddOne:  Yeah, it needs to be added to /etc/fstab and it will auto mount it on boot
[10:04] <Assimilator2> the ubuntu standard drivers
[10:04] <cBau> k, you'll need to load ATI drivers
[10:04] <yharrow> prolly not running fgrlx
[10:04] <Fujitsu> yharrow: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <Assimilator2> ouch that mean no more beryl
[10:04] <bill__k> !binary drivers
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <bill__k> !binarydrivers
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <yharrow> Fujitsu: thanks man :)
[10:04] <zulfajuniadi> yharrow: alt+c is channel list for xchat
[10:04] <cBau> nah, beryl works with fgrlx as I remember
[10:04] <yharrow> zulfajuniadi: oh cool , figgered that was it :)
[10:04] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Did you see that pastebin I linked you?
[10:05] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: It's saying my version is dirt old, yet I just installed it lol
[10:05] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: yes, it seems that you have to upgrade your gnutella
[10:05] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: I just did an apt-get update
[10:05] <dan20> before i installed it
[10:05] <Assimilator2> nar i spent the best part of yesterday trying the get beryl to work under fgrlx and gave up
[10:06] <dan20> and an apt-get upgrade
[10:06] <dan20> Nothing needed to be installed or updated
[10:06] <cBau> Well, I'm sure the diff driver wiki's will tell you if they support dual monitors... I run nVidia, so I am not up on ATI.
[10:07] <dan20> fglrx supports dual monitors.
[10:07] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: how come my gnutella is 0.96.3 and urs is 0.96.1?
[10:07] <cBau> But surely one of the ATI drivers will serve both monitors as well as Beryl
[10:07] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: I'm not sure
[10:07] <cBau> I am pretty sure that fgrlx does
[10:07] <dan20> It does, it's a large pain in the rear though, cBau
[10:07] <cBau> Thanks Dan, like I said, noob and not an ATI guy
[10:07] <joe4444> does gFTP support public key authentication?
[10:08] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Doing an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, should solve that problem, yes?
[10:08] <dan20> cBau, yeah, I still have trouble getting fglrx install to be honest.
[10:08] <zulfajuniadi> yes, it should
[10:08] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: yes it should
[10:08] <bill__k> dan20: my mouse must not support having its resolution
[10:09] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: I did that, and it found nothing that needed to be upgraded
[10:09] <bill__k> dan20: maybe i need a crappier mouose
[10:09] <bill__k> mouse*
[10:09] <cBau> I broked my Beryl the other day.... tried to run the script for nVidia install, and it really borked my comp, split the screen in fuzzy 4's and turned it green.
[10:09] <dan20> bill__k:  To be honest, I've heard and experienced nothing but bad things about razor mice.
[10:09] <Assimilator2> yeah so when is linux going to be plug and play :P
[10:09] <cBau> lol
[10:09] <zulfajuniadi> have you tried editting /home/dsnider/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[10:10] <Danker> On which day new ubuntu will be released?
[10:10] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: have you tried editting /home/dsnider/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[10:10] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Well, I would, but being that it's telling me I'm using an old version, that would really just ducktape the problem.
[10:10] <joe4444> Danker, i think it's April 19
[10:10] <dan20> Danker: When it's done :)
[10:10] <yharrow> yeah it is
[10:10] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k: have you tried setting the mouse resolutions from x?
[10:11] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yeah, I had him do that earlier
[10:11] <yharrow> april 19 2007 0:00 I dont know which time zone
[10:11] <eric> eric
[10:11] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: at least we can see if it opens up or not... :D
[10:11] <joe4444> anyone know of an app for gnome that supports SCP/sFTP with public key authentication?
[10:11] <yharrow> joe4444:  I use filezilla and gftp for ftp
[10:12] <joe4444> yharrow, i don't think gftp supports pubkey
[10:12] <joe4444> filezilla is only windows, right?
[10:12] <yharrow> nope :D
[10:12] <yharrow> ubuntu version available
[10:12] <yharrow> I'll tell you repo hold on
[10:12] <zulfajuniadi> joe4444: yes, yharrow is right
[10:12] <bill__k> zulfajuniadi: yes, I put all the sliders to min in the gui config tool
[10:13] <metusine> anyone know if /dev/dsp is used for recording as well as playback?
[10:13] <zulfajuniadi> have you tried manually editting /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:13] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yeah, it came up when I forced it to ignore being old.
[10:13] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k: have you tried manually editting /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:14] <joe4444> does filezilla support public key authentication?
[10:14] <Yodude> hello can please somebody help me with Gaim, it's not able to connect to any protocol
[10:14] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: i think it's because i'm using 7.04, thats why mine is newer
[10:14] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: 7.04 what
[10:15] <zulfajuniadi> feisty fox
[10:15] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: oh, ubuntu?
[10:15] <drcode> I all
[10:15] <drcode> hi all
[10:15] <joe4444> the only app i know of is WinSCP, which is kinda crap ...and of course only for windows
[10:15] <dan20> yeah
[10:15] <zulfajuniadi> dan20: yes
[10:15] <drcode> I have ubuntu 5.10
[10:15] <bill__k> zulfajuniadi: yes, i put Option "Resolution" "800" then lowered to 600, and 400, restarted each time
[10:15] <drcode> can I upgrade the kernel?
[10:15] <yharrow> 3 versions of filezilla available:  3.0.0~beta2-3+3v1ubuntu0 (edgy) , 3.0.0~beta2-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports) , 2.9.3+cvs200601004-1 (apt.ubuntu.org.tw)
[10:15] <drcode> I have 2.6.12
[10:15] <drcode> is there guid how to?
[10:15] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Yeah, it's kind of stupid that call such a small revision change as "ancient" then have it just not open or give any message through the GUI as to why.
[10:15] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k:  tried the 1600 resolution?
[10:16] <joe4444> yharrow, i searched the filezilla website and came up with nothing about public key authentication... do you know if it's supported?
[10:16] <bill__k> zulfajuniadi: higher is better?
[10:16] <bill__k> will try
[10:16] <zulfajuniadi> dan20:  yes, i agree, but then again, we're not the devels.. lol
[10:16] <yharrow> joe4444: I wouldnt know, sorry man, how do i test it?
[10:16] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k: it's worth a shot
[10:16] <yharrow> joe4444:  i have filezilla
[10:16] <dan20> zulfajuniadi: Either way, it's working now.  :-D
[10:16] <dan20> bedtime for me
[10:16] <zulfajuniadi> goodnight :D
[10:16] <joe4444> yharrow, it would be an option instead of username/password
[10:16] <Yodude> can please somebody help me with Gaim, it's not able to connect to any protocol
[10:17] <joe4444> yharrow, probably "Browse for public key file" or something like that
[10:17] <zulfajuniadi> Yodude: what error messages did it put out?
[10:18] <Yodude> for example<EMAIL_ADDRESS>disconnected, couldn't connect top host
[10:18] <yharrow> joe4444: all i see is and sftp optoin
[10:18] <yharrow> an*
[10:19] <joe4444> yharrow, yeah that's what i figured based on the screenshots in the online docs
[10:19] <fuzzy_logic> i want to install a mailserver on a old pc, is that hard for someone that doesn't have experience with those things at all?
[10:19] <yharrow> joe4444: what is the exact name of the feature you are looking for?
[10:19] <joe4444> i guess it's not a big deal since my designer will need an SCP app much more often than i will, and he uses windows which makes WinSCP an option
[10:20] <zulfajuniadi> fuzzy_logic: quite hard... i'm still strugling with my mail server
[10:20] <joe4444> public key authentication
[10:20] <Yodude> i'll brb i gtg have breakfast
[10:20] <joe4444> usually "RSA"
[10:20] <fuzzy_logic> zulfajuniadi: what makes it so hard?
[10:20] <delcoyote> good morning all having a samba problem when i try to update i get this error: invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed. do i have to stop manually thedaemons?
[10:20] <zulfajuniadi> fuzzy_logic: installing it was a breeze, but the settings are such a pain it the a-ss
[10:21] <zulfajuniadi> fuzzy_logic: everytime i send an email from my mail server, it would be marked as spam...
[10:21] <fuzzy_logic> zulfajuniadi: omg
[10:22] <zulfajuniadi> fuzzy_logic: heres a useful link http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[10:22] <senaqu1> hey when did feista beta come out?
[10:22] <delcoyote> i have also this lines : dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
[10:22] <delcoyote>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:22] <senaqu1> i mite try installing that rather than getting md/software raid to work in edgy :-P
[10:22] <Meshezabeel> senaqu1 about the same time that edgy came out ;)
[10:23] <bill__k> zulfajuniadi: no luck with any res (no change)
[10:24] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k: well, the site did say that it might not work on certain distros... tuff luck m8
[10:24] <fuzzy_logic> zulfajuniadi: does it work now? ur server?
[10:24] <bill__k> zulfajuniadi: yup, thanks anyways
[10:25] <zulfajuniadi> fuzzy_logic: like i said, everytime i send out emails, it's marked as spam... damn
[10:25] <fuzzy_logic> ah
[10:25] <sogen> HOW I CAN INSTALL PHOTOSHOP ON UBUNTU ?
[10:25] <zulfajuniadi> bill__k: np. yw
[10:25] <joe4444> sogen, maybe using Wine
[10:25] <Talaman> sogen: get wine
[10:25] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: use gimp, its really good
[10:25] <Talaman> gimp is good
[10:25] <cBau> and your caps are on :)
[10:26] <zulfajuniadi> can anyone confirm that you CAN install photoshop using wine? because i'd love to try it
[10:26] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: how i can crop something in gimp 10cetymeter for 15 cetymeters with resolution 400dpi ?
[10:27] <Talaman> zulf, try it and let us know
[10:27] <sogen> centimeters*
[10:27] <cBau> I can not.... I think Photoshop install would be tough, because of the demands of the program.
[10:27] <mikebeecham> Hi there....just wanted to ask a quick question....I'm using amarok at the moment, but I dont feel it's everything it's supposed to be.....what do you think is the best Linux media player...one that incorporates streams, full screen vizualtions, media library, etc?
[10:27] <yharrow> paint.net is being ported to mono
[10:28] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: how i can crop something in gimp 10centimeters for 15 centimeters with resolution 400dpi ?
[10:28] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: visit http://www.gimp.org/tutorials
[10:28] <cBau> Mikebeecham: Google EasyUbuntu... It gives you a Xine backend to the Totem player, and it works well.
[10:28] <tuna-fish> dumb cmdline question: how does one search for the contents of a lots of files in subdirs? Find seems to only match name.
[10:28] <Talaman> mike: i use xmms
[10:28] <awk> hi... anyone knows how to disable trash in ubuntu (gnome) ?
[10:28] <zulfajuniadi> i think first you have to set the resolution to 400dpi, then crop
[10:28] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: and ho wi can reduce noise on picture ?
[10:29] <cBau> Sharpen
[10:29] <cBau> or.......
[10:29] <sogen> how i*
[10:29] <universus> someone know
[10:29] <universus> why my PC , hangs when i use a torrent client ?;/
[10:29] <cBau> Torrents take a lot of processor power
[10:29] <OddOne> cBau/dan20: It seems to be working now. Thanks!
[10:29] <cBau> a lot
[10:29] <cBau> great
[10:29] <bill__k> universus: get the real sun java
[10:29] <universus> i;ve got it
[10:29] <Talaman> hey sogen, in gimp got to image/scale image
[10:30] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: enhance?
[10:30] <universus> installed java jsut like that : https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html
[10:30] <cBau> I can do 4 torrents at one time, but I tend to leave the comp alone during those times
[10:30] <sogen> and  how i can make web galery in gimp ?
[10:30] <cBau> Torrents take a lot of processor power
[10:30] <universus> cBau: i've heard my problem can be that my wifi drivers are bad
[10:30] <zulfajuniadi> web gallery? whats that?
[10:30] <cBau> hmmm
[10:30] <mikebeecham> cBau: Sorry mate, but been using Linux a little over a week...what is Xine?
[10:31] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: what is web gallery?
[10:31] <sogen> http://www.zsbo.szczecin.pl/foto/albumy/dzien_andersena/base0.html
[10:31] <sogen> example
[10:31] <cBau> you are running 1 torrent and having major hangs? (universus)
[10:31] <lingga_jove> I already has x64 of ubuntu nicely installed with radeon x11000, how do I get the best solution to make my box up and running using 3d effect
[10:31] <cBau> Mike: Google EasyUbuntu
[10:31] <OddOne> So, next problem. I tried to install a "skypemate" program. I downloaded a file that I know worked before. Now it just tells me that it is corrupt or I don't have permissions. Both are wrong. If I go in to synaptic there is nothing there. It is empty... Any ideas?
[10:31] <universus> cBau: yes its always then when i load a torernt file , and when he start to connect with the tracker then it goes to hang
[10:32] <yharrow> joe4444: check this out http://www.encrypted-ftp.com/
[10:32] <universus> cBau: i tryed most clients : transmission , rtorrent , ktorrent utorrent+wine , etc etc
[10:32] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: zulfajuniadi photoshop can easy make gallery but i dont know how to make it in gimp :(
[10:32] <joe4444> sogen, apps like Gimp and Photoshop don't make web galleries... that requires HTML
[10:32] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: this is more on coding. gimp only enhances / compresses the pictures, the gallery itself is a script, try using phphotoalbum
[10:32] <sogen> joe4444: photoshop can do web gallery
[10:33] <joe4444> oh, i didn't know that
[10:33] <sogen> joe4444: photoshop have many coll functions
[10:33] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: i don't think so, what version? i'm using cs2 nw on my win machine
[10:33] <cBau> Uni:  Hmmm, that is crap man..... I use BitTornado. I had some hangs and such before that, now I don't. I'd say look for other WiFi drivers or maybe a diff torrent client that will work. I don't know though, to be honest.
[10:33] <yharrow> joe4444:  is that the sort of app you want?
[10:34] <joe4444> yharrow, that's for windows... WinSCP is fine (not great), but i'd like something similar for Ubuntu
[10:34] <cBau> Mikebeecham: You still there?
[10:34] <lingga_jove> I already has x64 of ubuntu nicely installed with radeon x11000, how do I get the best solution to make my box up and running using 3d effect
[10:34] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: go to file>automatization>web gallery
[10:34] <universus> cBau: ok , anyway i was searching for some native drivers , i found them but i dont know how to install them <lol>
[10:34] <Priest-of-Psi> any sendmail gurus here?
[10:34] <cBau> hehe, awesome, don't you love those problems? :)
[10:35] <cBau> native... as in Windows native, or native linux drivers?
[10:35] <mikebeecham> cBau: I am....I'm looking at bmpX at the moment
[10:35] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: funny, mine hasn't got this... :D
[10:35] <cBau> I am afk smoking, be back in a few
[10:36] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: i not sure how it is in english coz i used it i only in polish verion
[10:36] <Priest-of-Psi> mman I hate sendmail!!!!!!
[10:36] <ubuntu_noob> grub
[10:36] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: yes, i'm reading the totorial for web gallery right now. funny how i don't have this function
[10:36] <joe4444> yharrow, thanks for trying to help but i have to get some sleep now
[10:37] <ubuntu_noob> grub
[10:37] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: strange :P
[10:37] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: maybe try in image ready
[10:37] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: maybe because mine is the educational version.. :P
[10:37] <sogen> there is hsould be
[10:38] <sogen> should*
[10:38] <sogen> it8
[10:38] <sogen> it*
[10:38] <yharrow> joe4444:  ok later
[10:38] <sogen> zulfajuniadi: you have image ready ?
[10:38] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: i got a copy from the school i used to go to....
[10:38] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: yes i do
[10:39] <ubuntu_noob> grub error 21 ?
[10:39] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: but i think this is not the right place to be talking about photoshop :D
[10:39] <sogen> :P
[10:39] <universus> lol u saw , my pc just hanged again and i was only looking some wallpapers on deviantart.com
[10:39] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: did you happen to change hdisk lately?
[10:39] <universus> the drivers are sux
[10:39] <sogen> i just wannted to know is gimp have same functions :(
[10:39] <acerola> are there any italia????
[10:40] <SzaraHill> I have just installed ubuntu on my ibook g4 and I've run into a problem with my panels
[10:40] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa..., nope
[10:40] <zulfajuniadi> sogen: no, gimp doesn't have that function. but there are other softwares that do this for you :)
[10:41] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, always happends on my first boot up, but after I press ctrl_alt_del and it will boot nomarlly
[10:41] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: have you been using ubuntu for a while or just finished installing it when this happen?
[10:41] <zulfajuniadi> try checking your bios setting, make sure it boots from your harddisk containing grub
[10:42] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: try checking your bios setting, make sure it boots from your harddisk containing grub
[10:42] <mikebeecham> cBau: back again now
[10:42] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: then check at /boot/grub/device.map, see if the setting there are correct
[10:43] <h3xagram> hello.. i'm trying to follow the install mplayer32 with firefox plugin over at ubuntuguide.org, and i've already added extra repositories and followed the directions but when I try to follow the next step i get this:
[10:43] <h3xagram> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/13338/
[10:43] <h3xagram> and this is the guide in question:
[10:43] <h3xagram> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Mplayer32_with_Plugin_for_Firefox32
[10:43] <cBau> Fellas, and Ladies, I gotta head to bed. Mike, go google EasyUbuntu, it gave me all the codecs I needed for playback of any file.
[10:43] <h3xagram> if anyone can assist me i would greatly appreciate it.
[10:43] <cBau> Y'all have a good night/day/whatever
[10:44] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa,there are two HD listed
[10:44] <zulfajuniadi> h3xagram: run sudo apt-get update
[10:44] <SzaraHill> I would love some help too
[10:44] <h3xagram> i already did
[10:44] <SzaraHill> though I could just reinstall, it's brand new
[10:44] <h3xagram> i did that after adding extra repositories
[10:44] <cBau> Szara: Panels?
[10:45] <SzaraHill> the thingies in the bars at the top and bottom of the default install
[10:45] <zulfajuniadi> h3xagram: check whether the repositories you just added are there...
[10:45] <cBau> srsly though.... sleep is coming
[10:45] <SzaraHill> it's not responding to my mouse clicks either
[10:45] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa,(hd0), (hd1)
[10:45] <cBau> weird...
[10:45] <SzaraHill> very
[10:46] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, should I delete hd1 ?
[10:46] <cBau> did you restart the...... x...... mind is failing...
[10:46] <SzaraHill> I think I will reinstall, not like I've got anything really on it yet.  but I will be back cause I'm sure I'll have other issues.
[10:46] <cBau> true nuff
[10:46] <SzaraHill> hehe, I restarted a couple times
[10:46] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: is the line something like this: (hd0) /dev/sda?
[10:46] <SzaraHill> thanks very much anyways
[10:46] <h3xagram> zulfajuniadi: i did and it's all there
[10:46] <cBau> k, I am srsly out this time
[10:46] <cBau> see y'all
[10:47] <SzaraHill> tata
[10:47] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, yes, and there's two of them; which are hda, hdb
[10:47] <zulfajuniadi> h3xagram: try easybuntu
[10:48] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: try removing hdb,
[10:50] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, what is the command to edit device.map in terminal ? sudo gedit /boot/grub/device.map ??
[10:50] <zulfajuniadi> better use gksudo gedit
[10:50] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, thx
[10:51] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: np, sudo is more towards terminal apps, gksudo is more towards graphical apps.
[10:51] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, after I opened it, the device,map tend to be blank...
[10:52] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: i think you've got the command wrong
[10:52] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: gksudo /boot/grub/device.map
[10:52] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/device.map
[10:53] <ubuntu_noob> gksudo gedit /boo/grub/device.map
[10:53] <pu> hello
[10:53] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: why the /boo infront?
[10:53] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: shouldnt it be /boot?
[10:54] <zulfajuniadi> yes pu
[10:54] <amaan> hey guys, qucik question my wireless isn't working and i just installed ubuntu
[10:54] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, haha, I didn't noticed that I've miss typed it ..
[10:54] <amaan> i have a dell inspirson 220
[10:54] <amaan> im using my friends computer
[10:54] <pu> why do I cannot see the end of the phase?
[10:54] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, I'll will reboot now and see how it goes.
[10:54] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, brb
[10:54] <amaan> inspiron 2200*
[10:54] <zulfajuniadi> gluck!
[10:55] <zulfajuniadi> amaan: what version of ubuntu would that be? 7.04 or 6.10?
[10:55] <amaan> zulfajuniadi, i have version 6.10
[10:56] <amaan> zulfajuniadi, any idea what i can install to make it work?
[10:56] <zulfajuniadi> what chipset is it using?
[10:56] <pu> I cannot see the last some characters.
[10:57] <pu> please?
[10:57] <amaan> chipset?
[10:57] <rambo3> pu in xchat and feisty
[10:57] <zulfajuniadi> amaan: yes, what chipset is the wireless?
[10:57] <ubuntu_noob> zulfa, thanks alot, it's been fixed now
[10:58] <zulfajuniadi> ubuntu_noob: no prob man :D
[10:58] <amaan> zulfajuniadi, give me a sec to find out
[10:58] <amaan> thanks
[10:58] <pu> bye
[10:58] <rambo3> pu, get x-chat
[10:58] <rambo3> not
[10:58] <rambo3> xchat-gnome
[10:59] <mon^rch> I hear gaim is great for irc, and supports smiley's :)
[10:59] <zulfajuniadi> amaan: try check at system -> admin -> restricted driver manager
[11:00] <ernz> Hi, I have been searching high and low. I need to convert a few AMR files off my phone into MP3 on my Ubuntu Edgy machine. Does someone know an ffmpeg command or something I could use?
[11:02] <flo_> i have a wireless/ethernet dlink router that is up and runnig with a desktop on the ethernet and a laptop on the wifi now how can i create a shared folder betwen the tywo pc's? i'm  a linux noob :-( , thx
[11:02] <zulfajuniadi> flo_ : both using linux?
[11:02] <dungodung> does mark shuttleworth ever IRC?
[11:02] <enyc> dungodung: yes, an "sabdfl"
[11:03] <dj-fu> flo_
[11:03] <dj-fu> sambe will do it
[11:03] <dungodung> thanks
[11:03] <flo_> zulfajuniadi: desktop edgy laptop feisty
[11:04] <zulfajuniadi> system -> administration -> shared folders
[11:04] <zulfajuniadi> system -> administration -> shared folders, flo_
[11:04] <ernz> Hey, no matter. I just play and record at the same time. Easy peasy!
[11:04] <deepsa> have a look at this http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html
[11:05] <flo_> zulfajuniadi: thx(feisty roks)
[11:05] <deepsa> wireless broadband through sewage line provided by google.
[11:05] <Shadowpillar_> canonical got bought out by microsoft, btw
[11:06] <sacater> Shadowpillar_: what...
[11:06] <Shadowpillar_> and if anyone takes that seriously, I think you should throw yourself out the window
[11:06] <rambo3> Shadowpillar_, try harder
[11:06] <sacater> Shadowpillar_: you little...
[11:06] <Shadowpillar_> sacater: the window's that way
[11:06] <xX-ACID-Xx> how do i open samba i cant find it
[11:06] <sacater> Shadowpillar_: ok
[11:06] <xX-ACID-Xx> HELP i installed ubuntu and now my windows wont boot
[11:07] <amaan> zulfajuniadi, the chipset is
[11:07] <deepsa> xX-ACID-Xx, who wants windows
[11:07] <raul> how to make vlc play flv (flash) files...............plz.......
[11:07] <ubuntu_noob> deepsa, my house
[11:07] <amaan> BCM4318[airforce one 54g]  802.11g wireless LAN controller
[11:07] <deepsa> ubuntu_noob, lol
[11:07] <ubuntu_noob> lolz
[11:07] <xX-ACID-Xx> I need it because all my files are on there and i dont know how to access them through linux
[11:08] <deepsa> xX-ACID-Xx, mount window drives in linux
[11:08] <xX-ACID-Xx> how do i do that
[11:08] <universus> xX-ACID-Xx: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[11:08] <mon^rch> xX-ACID-Xx: you can still get to your files, don't worry
[11:08] <deepsa> yaeh
[11:09] <mon^rch> xX-ACID-Xx: try looking in /media/<folder>
[11:09] <xX-ACID-Xx> is there an easier way?
[11:10] <deepsa> no
[11:10] <Enselic`> Hello, I have sda4,5,6 etc icons in my desktop. Can I remove the icons without unmounting the disks??
[11:10] <Enselic`> s/??/?/
[11:10] <amaan> zulfajuniadi, any idea?
[11:10] <amaan> or if anyone else knows, i just installed ubuntu but my wireless doesn't work
[11:10] <amaan> on a dell inspiron 2200
[11:10] <ric1> i have breezer ubuntu and i cant figure out how to upgrade can someone help me
[11:10] <deepsa> amaan, what is it ? ipw3945?
[11:10] <sacater> ric1: of cours
[11:11] <universus> mount ur drives in /mnt/ not in /media/
[11:11] <Enselic`> amaan: fwiw, feisty have great wireless support
[11:11] <sacater> ric1: go to system>administration>update manager
[11:11] <xX-ACID-Xx> before someone told me this thing to type into terminal and it did it for me
[11:11] <ric1> what do you mean of course
[11:11] <amaan> deepsa, im not sure what ipw3945 is
[11:11] <Enselic`> amaan: getting it to work with encryption in 6.10 is non-trivial
[11:11] <xX-ACID-Xx> please help
[11:11] <deepsa> xX-ACID-Xx, you don't remember that? if not then start remembering it's not windows its linux stupid
[11:11] <mon^rch> Enselic`: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop/ uncheck show drives :)
[11:11] <amaan> enslic, what does that mean?
[11:12] <Enselic`> mon^rch: ty
[11:12] <omeil> peoples i have a problem. my sound is working but my line-in (microphone input) ain't working. was working a couple of days ago, but now i can't use audacity or skype or anything.
[11:12] <xX-ACID-Xx> please help i need this
[11:12] <mon^rch> Enselic`: np at all :)
[11:12] <ric1> no one to help me?
[11:12] <deepsa> ric1 wtf is your problem
[11:12] <sacater> ric1: yes
[11:12] <ric1> i have breezer ubuntu and i cant figure out how to upgrade can someone help me
[11:12] <sacater> ric1: look up at what i said
[11:12] <ric1> oh k
[11:13] <deepsa> ric1 format it and install fiesty simple.
[11:13] <ric1> how do i upgrade it?
[11:13] <omeil> ?
[11:13] <sacater> ric1: it should prompt you for an upgrade when you get there
[11:13] <ric1> how the hell do you do that
[11:13] <xX-ACID-Xx> is there something i can just type into terminal and its automatic?
[11:13] <ric1> im new to linux
[11:13] <Enselic`> Can I remove all gnome-panels temporarliy (completely), without losing it's current configuration?
[11:13] <sacater> ric1: erm
[11:13] <deepsa> xX-ACID-Xx, ya. shred /dev/sda
[11:13] <sacater> ric1: type /j #sacater
[11:13] <Enselic`> ric1: do you want to reinstall, or just upgrade?
[11:13] <xX-ACID-Xx> will that work?
[11:13] <deepsa> yeah
[11:13] <mon^rch> ric1: try sudo update-manager -d
[11:14] <Talaman> acid, don't do it
[11:14] <sacater> mon^rch: sudo?
[11:14] <amaan> if my wireless isn't working, can i just dl Network Manager on another computer and transfer via usb?
[11:14] <enyc> Enselic`: hrrm you might be able to kill rthe panel process... but it may respawn... hrrm... are you trynig to do something 'fullscreen' with panels out the way??
[11:14] <sacater> mon^rch: i used standard user, then it asked for password
[11:14] <mon^rch> sacater: stands for super-user do
[11:14] <Enselic`> enyc: precisely
[11:14] <xX-ACID-Xx> that will erase my hard drive
[11:14] <sacater> mon^rch: i know that
[11:14] <enyc> Enselic`: I know what you mean...  dont actulaly know answer!
[11:14] <omeil> My line-in input ain't working. all microphone compatible programs just don't send or record any sound, although i can hear myself in my speaker when i talk.
[11:15] <enyc> Enselic`: waybe you can set 'autohide' on a panel?
[11:15] <ric1> i tried sudo upgrade manager but it asks me for my root password and i type it in but it doesnt work
[11:15] <amaan> any idea?
[11:15] <flo_> zulfajuniadi: i'vd created the shared folder but now how can i accesit from the other pc?
[11:15] <Enselic`> enyc: they still take up too much space then :/
[11:15] <sacater> ric1: sudo update, not upgrade
[11:15] <Talaman> yeah
[11:15] <mon^rch> ric1: use your user password... NOT a root password
[11:15] <deepsa> wtf Talaman
[11:15] <enyc> Enselic`: trying something mysely... 1 moment
[11:15] <Talaman> wtf yourself
[11:16] <ric1> thats what im using but its naot working
[11:16] <deepsa> really?
[11:16] <deepsa> you wtf
[11:16] <xX-ACID-Xx> seriously how do i do this?
[11:16] <delcoyote> good morning all, having a problem with edgy eft when i try to update y get always an arroe with samba, been checking a few forums, and i cant figure out whats going on
[11:16] <mon^rch> ric1:  okay try sudo passwd root
[11:16] <mon^rch> and enter a new password
[11:17] <mon^rch> and try again
[11:17] <sacater> ric1: DONT FORGET THE PASSWORD
[11:17] <ric1> it aint doin anything
[11:17] <delcoyote>  invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed. do i have to stop manually thedaemons?
[11:17] <omeil> ric1, so it accept
[11:17] <amaan> so no one knows anything about wireless that might be able to help out?
[11:17] <delcoyote> i have also this lines : dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
[11:17] <omeil> ric1, so it accepts your password?
[11:17] <delcoyote>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:18] <Talaman> i wouldn't listen to anything deepsa has to say, but that's just me
[11:18] <deepsa> Talaman, are you gone mad?
[11:18] <enyc> Enselic`: hrrm no luck
[11:19] <enyc> Enselic`: erm you can consider starting an xserver with application directly....
[11:19] <ric1> it comes up with error----Failed to run update-manager -d as user root:
[11:19] <ric1>  Child terminated with 1 status
[11:19] <Enselic`> enyc: oh well, reconfiguring it is not more than a 5 min job anyway
[11:19] <Jubei> anybody know what this could mean? Apr  1 11:38:15 kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1 || Apr  1 11:38:15 kernel: Loaded 23758 symbols from /boot/System.map-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1. || Apr  1 11:38:15 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.15. || Apr  1 11:38:15 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[11:19] <enyc> Enselic`: ive never had  the problem you are describing...
[11:19] <sacater> ric1: erm, thats not good
[11:19] <Enselic`> enyc: hey that's a great idea!
[11:19] <ric1> whys that not good?
[11:20] <Enselic`> enyc: separate X server, of course, why ddint I think of that
[11:20] <sacater> ric1: because it may mean your root password was bad, or you messed up root
[11:20] <mon^rch> ric1: download a feisty cd and do a vanilla install then, sorry
[11:20] <enyc> Enselic`: you can do something like " X :1 & "  I thkn...
[11:20] <edgyeft> hello! i'm under ubuntu 6.10, and i'd want to change my screen resolution from 800*600 to 1024*600 but i  can't mange this in a graphicl way . Is ther ea way to do this in command line?
[11:20] <ric1> do the what what what
[11:20] <enyc> Enselic`: then... DISPLAY=:1 applicationname
[11:20] <Enselic`> enyc: yeah, I debug GIMP on a separte X server, so I hvae scripts for a temporary X server already :)
[11:21] <enyc> Enselic`: however... without a window manager you will have no easy way to set where windows appear etc.
[11:21] <enyc> Enselic`: how do you deal with this?
[11:21] <Enselic`> enyc: debugging GIMP? Hang on, I'll give you the script
[11:21] <enyc> Enselic`: no...
[11:21] <Enselic`> I start GIMP on a separate X server, then attach gdb to the process
[11:21] <Enselic`> ok
[11:21] <ric1> mon^rch what did you just tell me to do?
[11:21] <StoneNewt> am I being silly or is there no simple way to mount afp volumes on ubunti
[11:21] <delcoyote> edgyeft: did you try System-Preferences-Screen resdlution?
[11:21] <Enselic`> enyc: do what then?
[11:21] <StoneNewt> ubuntu*
[11:21] <enyc> Enselic`: I want to knw.. how you deal with no windowmanager there
[11:22] <Enselic`> enyc: I start it
[11:22] <Enselic`> enyc: you can start it either through a script, or let a script start a terminal, from which you start a wm
[11:22] <mon^rch> ric1: you should probably download the feisty .iso, burnit and install it that way. okay?
[11:22] <enyc> Enselic`: ok
[11:22] <enyc> Enselic`: like "xinit" does... starts a terminal...
[11:23] <ric1> mon^rch?
[11:23] <mon^rch> ric1: I can give you the link if you want
[11:23] <Enselic`> enyc: I use Xorg and a raw setup
[11:23] <enyc> Enselic`: ok
[11:23] <ric1> ok that sounds good
[11:23] <enyc> Enselic`: anyway have phun ;-)
[11:23] <mon^rch> isec
[11:24] <Enselic`> enyc: http://rafb.net/p/72h5Pk71.html if you are interested
[11:24] <flo_> i'vd created a shared folder on my laptop and setit up with a ip accesing method for the other host, now how can i acces this folder from the other pc? excuse my ignorance
[11:24] <ric1> will it be easy just to entirely reinstall ubuntu
[11:24] <Enselic`> enyc: you can start it from vt1-6 unless you change Xwrapper.config, then you can run it from within an Xtrem
[11:24] <enyc> ric1: note that feisty is not released yet (about 3 weeks to go), and hence feisty should be discussed on #ubuntu+1 channel really ;-)
[11:24] <mon^rch> ric1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso save that file
[11:25] <ric1>  will it be easier just to entirely reinstall ubuntu
[11:25] <Frogzoo> ric1: it's pretty easy, first backup your package list with dpkg --get-selections maybe
[11:25] <edgyeft> thank you delcoyote, that's exactly what i did, but ther 's only two choice of resolution : 400*600 et 800*600 !!!
[11:25] <mon^rch> ric1: that's wht I'm helping you with
[11:25] <enyc> Enselic`: now thats something ive not seen before... setting xauthoriny
[11:26] <Enselic`> enyc: it's to add security, otherwise anyone could connect to your X server
[11:26] <ric1> sorry im getting confused
[11:26] <Enselic`> enyc: though one can explictly forbid TCP connections if one like
[11:26] <mon^rch> ric1: most of the time it's alot easier to just reinstall than to upgrade and risk mucking things up
[11:26] <enyc> Enselic`: I didnt realise X11 allows access to other users of the same system...
[11:27] <enyc> Enselic`: erm... yes.. and normally X11 is started with --nolisten tcp these days i think
[11:27] <ric1> if i reinstall will i be able to use my root password
[11:27] <enyc> Enselic`: I remmeber people doing "xhost +" in the past....
[11:27] <mon^rch> ric1: you DONT want to use a root password with ubuntu, use the "sudo" command instead
[11:28] <rambo3> ric1, whats the problem
[11:28] <delcoyote> edgyeft: sorry i cant help more, i know there is a way to change the res. you should google it i"ve found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 there is a section to tweak resolution somewhere there
[11:28] <enyc> Enselic`: but... you are saying... without setting up -Xauthority,.. assunming no TCP-listeners...  that any *local* user could access your X-server ?
[11:28] <ric1> but it asks me to type in a rood password after i use the command
[11:28] <enyc> ric1: its actually asking for your user password
[11:28] <enyc> ric1: "su" asks for root password, which is not normally used in ubuntu
[11:28] <mon^rch> ric1: sounds to me like you've forgotten your password...
[11:29] <ric1> yes then it gives me some type of error after i type it in
[11:29] <enyc> ric1: whats the exact error?
[11:29] <Enselic`> enyc: if are connected to an X server and e.g. nautilus is running, you can explot the custom protocoll utilized by nautilus to do nasty stuff, as I've understood it
[11:29] <ric1> so if i reinstall ubuntu off the disk i got then i will be able to use my password
[11:29] <edgyeft> thank yiou for the answer delcoyote, i'll try your address ... see you...
[11:30] <enyc> ric1: im sure you could...
[11:30] <mon^rch> ric1: provided you dont forget it, yes
[11:30] <rambo3> ric1 you dont have to reinstall
[11:30] <irvin> ric1: are you using ubuntu right now?
[11:30] <Flipp> which package i have to install if i want to use SASL
[11:30] <ric1> yes i am
[11:30] <delcoyote> edgyeft: youre welcome hope it helps, i know thats the file you have to look at to change resolution, good luck
[11:30] <mon^rch> noo-nee-noo...
[11:31] <irvin> ric1: did you enter a password when you logged into ubuntu?
[11:31] <enyc> Enselic`: hrrm well if you are connected ot an x-server you can do allsorts... eg.o trap allk key events..
[11:31] <voltagex> Fiesty is out....april fools!
[11:31] <ric1> yes i did
[11:31] <enyc> ric1: that is the same password you need for "sudo" then..
[11:31] <mon^rch> feisty kicks some serious rump!
[11:31] <ric1> but when i type it in it doesnt work
[11:31] <Jubei> mon^rch: how come?
[11:31] <enyc> ric1: what _exact_ message do you get back?
[11:31] <mon^rch> ric1: is the caps lock on?
[11:32] <voltagex> anyway, seriously, is there an ubuntu equivalent for http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=tree
[11:32] <rambo3> ric1, boot in rescue mode and change password
[11:32] <enyc> Enselic`: but... I wanted to know...
[11:32] <ric1> i got this--------Failed to run update-manager -d as user root:
[11:32] <ric1>  Child terminated with 1 status
[11:32] <mon^rch> Jubei: desktop effects like fading windows and menus to start with...
[11:32] <ric1> SURE ISNT
[11:32] <mon^rch> lol ric
[11:32] <Enselic`> enyc: 'wanted to know' as in 'you still didn't tell me'?
[11:33] <ric1> haha
[11:33] <enyc> Enselic`: another user on the same system could connect to your xserver (unix socket, no tcp) if you do not setnup -Xaouthority ?
[11:33] <enyc> Enselic`: correct...
[11:33] <huXfluX> Hello! I've just downloaded a torrent that came in multiple rar volumes, .rar, .r00, .r01, etc. How can I extract all of them? Thanx.
[11:33] <ric1> ill boot in rescue mode and change password then
[11:33] <ric1> how do u do that
[11:33] <Enselic`> enyc: if the user knows where the Xauthority file is, yes
[11:33] <enyc> Enselic`: but if you did NOT use -Xauthority when starting "Xorg"
[11:33] <mon^rch> huXfluX: select all files right click extract here
[11:34] <rambo3> ~.Xauthority
[11:34] <enyc> Enselic`: err -auth even
[11:34] <Enselic`> enyc: I think so yes
[11:34] <Enselic`> enyc: why not?
[11:34] <enyc> Enselic`: i.e. if you "X :1 vt8&" ...
[11:34] <ric1> how do you change your password
[11:34] <enyc> Enselic`: hrrm well Ive never cansidered this really..
[11:34] <Enselic`> yes, what would prevent a user from connecting then?
[11:34] <Rod> hi i got an usb disk, 200 gig, formatted as ext2, fully loaded ... I mounted it under windows with Ext2 Volume Manager and now the filesystem got corrupted because although ext2 volume manager says the file system is ext2, it also says that partition entry is fat32X    How to get this right again, fat32x should be "Linux"
[11:34] <mon^rch> sudo passwd <username>
[11:35] <Enselic`> enyc: there was a security guru at freenode/#xorg that told me this :)
[11:35] <Enselic`> were*
[11:35] <enyc> Enselic`: I think I may have thought you need to be the same userid to access the required sockets...
[11:35] <pradeepvglughyd> how to set monitor frequency to 85 hz
[11:35] <mon^rch> ric1: good luck changing the password if you've forgotten the one for sudo...
[11:35] <enyc> Enselic`: but that make sense...
[11:36] <Enselic`> enyc: the network protocol knows nothing about user id, does it?
[11:36] <enyc> Enselic`: in your script... where is the word 'mcookie' chosen from?
[11:36] <delcoyote> need help with samba problem, been looking in smb.conf file and im not sure how messed up it is, found this two lines that are not familiar at all : netbios name = samba24
[11:36] <delcoyote> server string = CAD architects, Stockholm, east 32nd st, 34th floor
[11:36] <mon^rch> was it something I said?
[11:36] <Enselic`> enyc: it's a program that generates a 128 bit random key
[11:36] <enyc> Enselic`: sure... on TCP network.. no userid (unless you try to ident or something)
[11:36] <Enselic`> enyc: run mcookie to see
[11:36] <enyc> Enselic`: aaah ok... backticks there... ok
[11:36] <Rod> Is there some channel where you can ask partition related questions?
[11:36] <Enselic`> Rod: freenode/##linux
[11:36] <enyc> Enselic`: I seee.. and the xauth program writes to your XAUTHORITY file
[11:37] <Enselic`> enyc: yes, xauth is a program, xauth -l lists the current mcookies
[11:37] <delcoyote> i think i messed up samba installing gsamba or something like that
[11:37] <Enselic`> enyc: xauth list
[11:37] <enyc> Enselic`: and the X server is told.. only accep t cotnnections which authentivace with these cookies
[11:38] <Enselic`> enyc: the server only allows programs to connect that knows the right magic cookie, yes
[11:38] <Enselic`> Enselic`: so you set the XAUTHORITY env var to tell all programs where to find the mcookie
[11:38] <enyc> Enselic`: I see ;-)
[11:40] <pradeepvglughyd> how to set monitor frequency to 85 hz
[11:40] <KouOuKen> Is this the proper channel to ask about Feisty Beta?
[11:40] <Enselic`> pradeepvglughyd: many ways, one way is to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:41] <Enselic`> KouOuKen: #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <apokryphos> KouOuKen: /msg ubotu feisty
[11:41] <KouOuKen> Thanks
[11:41] <aorith> #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <enyc> Enselic`: i se... interestingsy the xauth line specifies the dispay (:1) ...
[11:42] <jimwatts123> I was successfull after many atempts and feel inadiquate it was so simple again
[11:42] <sorcere12> hey guys i dunno if you can help me but its worth a try iam new to ubuntu and i just got the live cd iam trying run it and my old crt monitor starts to flicker ... i went though some .. resoloution but when it comes to login it screws up any suggestions?
[11:42] <Enselic`> enyc: yeah, different cookies for different servers
[11:42] <Enselic`> enyc: if a program connects to e.g. ;1, ot fetches that mcookie of that server
[11:42] <sorcere12> if any one could hlp it would be great
[11:43] <Enselic`> sorcere12: you could try to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then specify sane values
[11:44] <sorcere12> umm whoa iam using a live cd
[11:44] <Enselic`> sorcere12: oh
[11:44] <sorcere12> where do i type thos things ?
[11:44] <Peshk0`> hello everyone
[11:44] <Enselic`> sorcere12: well then that wont work in the first place :)
[11:44] <Enselic`> sorcere12: is it an old computer?
[11:45] <Peshk0`> could you tell me where can i find the configuration editor
[11:45] <sorcere12> no its a 3.2 gig p4 1024 ram and gforce 6800
[11:45] <dbglt> hey guys, I'm trying to setup my laptop with an external monitor: I want the external monitor to activate when it is plugged into the laptop (and the laptop screen to turn off an external monitor is plugged in), and vice versa. Any ideas how to do this?
[11:45] <Enselic`> Peshk0`: for what? general conf? gconf-editor
[11:45] <Enselic`> or gconf-edit
[11:45] <sorcere12> but with a old crt 15 inch monitor
[11:45] <Peshk0`> i'm reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[11:45] <Peshk0`> ... how to change my spash screen
[11:45] <Peshk0`> and i can't finde the conf.. editor
[11:46] <Peshk0`> find*
[11:46] <bill__k> Panel menu->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[11:46] <bill__k> sorry i'm on kubuntu
[11:46] <Peshk0`> i forgot to say i'm using Dapper Drake
[11:46] <bill__k> can you upgrade?
[11:46] <Peshk0`> and there is nothing in System Tools
[11:46] <sorcere12> hey Enselic any suggestions?
[11:46] <Enselic`> sorcere12: nvidia uses custom drivers iirc
[11:46] <Peshk0`> except nvidia and automatix
[11:46] <sorcere12> what you mean ..
[11:46] <terapicodave> dbglt: I don't think you can do that automatically but you should be able to do it in general...i'm wrestling with getting laptop's video card to output a better resolution for an external monitor
[11:46] <Enselic`> !nvidia  | sorcere12
[11:46] <ubotu> sorcere12: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <sorcere12> but i how do i do it running live cd?
[11:47] <Thug-N-Me> need to extract files from ace archiver any help ?
[11:47] <dbglt> terapicodave: I can do it manually, that's not a problem. I just want to try do it automatically
[11:47] <Thug-N-Me> unace doesnt let me do it ... i get a error
[11:47] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: right click the archive and click extract here
[11:47] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: bad format or it's a corrupted archive
[11:47] <Peshk0`> ohh i found it
[11:47] <Enselic`> sorcere12: I think it should work to follow the guide
[11:47] <Peshk0`> gconf-editor :)
[11:48] <bill__k> do you have a checksum?
[11:48] <Enselic`> Peshk0`: I told you a while ago...
[11:48] <bill__k> lol
[11:48] <Thug-N-Me> bill__k there is no such thing as " extract here "
[11:48] <terapicodave> dbglt: I just don't think that connector knows if something's plugged in...it could but I'm 90% there's no input there
[11:48] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: sorry, what extension is it? I don't believe rar is natively supported...
[11:49] <Thug-N-Me> bill__k hello ? " ace "
[11:49] <dbglt> mmm pretty sure xorg can detect new screens available
[11:49] <dbglt> even if it polls it every so often...
[11:49] <jimwatts123> there is if you want to get paid
[11:49] <dbglt> should be able to automatically do it
[11:49] <sorcere12> hey enselic .. thats a guide when ubuntu .. is on my system nd not on the live cd
[11:49] <dbglt> just not sure how :D
[11:49] <jimwatts123> all electronic
[11:49] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: have you compared md5sums?
[11:49] <sorcere12> it flickers when i say start or install ubuntu
[11:49] <sorcere12> the welcome screen is all messed up
[11:50] <sorcere12> is it to do with refresh rates ..
[11:50] <delcoyote> E: samba: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:50] <delcoyote> E: gsambad: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured, anyone could give me a hand with this?
[11:50] <sorcere12> my old monitor cant handle ..
[11:50] <sorcere12> works fine on windows
[11:50] <kaatil> question about mozilla.. how do you get mozilla to use mplayer plugin instead of totem?
[11:50] <sorcere12> the monitor i mean
[11:50] <Priest-of-Psi> gosh
[11:50] <Priest-of-Psi> I have to hate sendmail more!
[11:51] <terapicodave> kaatil: i use an extension called media player connectivity
[11:51] <Enselic`> sorcere12: sorry, don't know. the problem with nvidia is that they don't provide good drivers for linux. you could try another monitor, or if you really want to try Ubuntu, consider a better supported card :/
[11:51] <bill__k> kaatil: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-mplayer-in-firefox-under-ubuntu-is-not-working.html
[11:51] <jimwatts123> well there must be a setting here that works then
[11:51] <kaatil> ah thanks bill__K and terapicodave. :)
[11:51] <bill__k> sure
[11:52] <Thug-N-Me> bill__k the files are there i can see them when i do a " unace x test.ace  " but dosnt let me extract them
[11:52] <sorcere12> that sucks
[11:52] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: can it be password protected?
[11:52] <sorcere12> but it works on windows .. it flickers first but i chang ethe resoloution to 8000  and it works fine
[11:52] <Thug-N-Me> bill__k nope , its not
[11:52] <bill__k> Thug-N-Me: it could still be a corruption problem.  I would still do a md5sum or recopy it
[11:53] <bill__k> otherwise I don't know how to help
[11:54] <omha> hey
[11:55] <omha> i have a problem with apache2 and php5, when i request a php file firefox wants to download it
[11:55] <riaal> I really need help!!  Somehow my freinds crashed my file system lastnight. The computer was locked but I think they pulled the power cable. When I boot it say "/dev/sda1 Contains a file system with errors. check forced. Inodes that were part of the corrupt orphan liked list found"  "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY RUN fsck manually" what to do??
[11:56] <poningru> riaal: do you ahve a live cd?
[11:56] <riaal> poningru, y
[11:56] <poningru> riaal: the install cd will do
[11:56] <poningru> go get it and boot off of it
[11:56] <omha> riaal, control + d and type fsck
[11:56] <Enselic`> sorcere12: yeah, that's because nvidia supports windows
[11:57] <Enselic`> sorcere12: supports == writes decent drivers
[11:57] <poningru> yeah that could work if the kernel was loaded successfully
[11:57] <riaal> omha, seams to work, thanks
[11:58] <riaal> omha, running it whit the -y option, is that "normal"?
[11:58] <omha> riaal, yes
[11:58] <_nnx_> Hey, does anyone know how I can force 6.06 to upgrade using the DVD?  I went to a fair amount of trouble to download the DVD and now update-manager is insisting on downloading the update.
[11:58] <_nnx_> I'm upgrading to Edgy (finally).
[11:59] <omha> _nnx_, upgrade to feisty ;)
[11:59] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to use amsn but i keep getting an error saying i need to install msnp9, would someone beable to help me with this
[11:59] <poningru> _nnx_: hmm interesting
[11:59] <_nnx_> owha: Not 'til it's out of beta.  I'm not that adventurous.
[11:59] <roland_> how do i install LAMP on ubuntu server if i skiped at install ?
[11:59] <xtheblack9x> what command to open a .run file??????????????
[11:59] <poningru> _nnx_: put the dvd in, does it not come up with an option to update?
[12:00] <poningru> !lamp | roland_
[12:00] <ubotu> roland_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:00] <poningru> roland_: there is a set of packages listed on there
[12:00] <_nnx_> poningru: It comes up telling me it's recognized a new DVD.  It sends me to the update-manager.  However it does NOT send me to the upgrade tool, which I am assuming is necessary for a safe upgrade.
[12:01] <_nnx_> poningru: Er, wait, I think it sends me to Synaptic.
[12:01] <riaal> omha, wow. works fine! thanks a lot!
[12:01] <roland_> poningru: i have ubuntu 6.10 not 6.06 as in the page will the package names be the same?
[12:01] <roland_> and procedures?
[12:02] <Szara> mmkay, how in the heck do I install software that I've downloaded to my computer?
[12:02] <poningru> roland_: oh hmm
[12:02] <_nnx_> poningru: Do I need that upgrade tool, or would it work to just tell it to run the upgrade from update-manager or Synaptic?
[12:02] <Szara> I get that I have to use this synaptic package manager, but not how to get at the files
[12:02] <poningru> it should be
[12:03] <poningru> Szara: what kinda file did you download?
[12:03] <poningru> to install you can just go into synaptic and just double click on a software you want
[12:03] <poningru> and then click apply
[12:03] <SzaraHill> poningru, it was a .tar.bz2
[12:04] <poningru> SzaraHill: what file is it?
[12:04] <binfalse> hello
[12:04] <poningru> link me
[12:04] <binfalse> tell me
[12:04] <str4`> yo
[12:04] <str4`> dunno
[12:04] <poningru> _nnx_: you can just do it from synaptic if you add the dvd as a apt source
[12:04] <SzaraHill> oh, wait, I think I found my answer.  I hadn't looked at the menu where it says "add downloaded packages" ...  >.<
[12:05] <poningru> SzaraHill: that will only work for .deb iirc
[12:05] <SzaraHill> ahh
[12:05] <poningru> not for .tar.bz2
[12:05] <poningru> link me to what you are trying to install
[12:05] <SzaraHill> even if it's been unpacked?
[12:05] <_nnx_> poningru: Alright.  Are there any special catches I should know about?  For instance, I recall hearing that the apt-get method required some steps separate from using the GUI.  Does that apply here, or will everything be taken care of by Synaptic?
[12:05] <kane77> heh.. my wanda fish just died... wonder why...
[12:05] <SzaraHill> it's the logjam livejournal client
[12:05] <poningru> SzaraHill: whats in it?
[12:06] <poningru> _nnx_: it should just work... but backup your data
[12:06] <SzaraHill> http://logjam.danga.com/
[12:06] <_nnx_> poningru: Already did before I took this little gamble.  thanks. :)
[12:06] <poningru> _nnx_: also read through !update
[12:06] <roland_> hmm i cant mount my ubuntu server iso image as cdrom in vmware when it asks for 'enter ubuntu cd'
[12:06] <Skew-> how do i make these [ ]  characters on a danish keyboard?
[12:06] <_nnx_> poningru: !update?
[12:06] <poningru> !upgrade | _nnx_
[12:06] <ubotu> _nnx_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:06] <_nnx_> poningru: Ah.  Thank you.
[12:07] <poningru> SzaraHill: looking
[12:07] <Skew-> how do i make these  bracket [ ]  characters on a danish keyboard?
[12:07] <SzaraHill> I'm taking a further look into the files in there, which I shoulda done before coming and asking...heh...might figure it out myself after
[12:07] <SzaraHill> all
[12:07] <derrin> Hi all!  Can anyone help, please?  My ubuntu system won't recognise my DV camera when I hook it up with firewire.  Any reason why not?
[12:08] <roland_> anyone using ubuntu on vmware ?
[12:08] <poningru> dude...
[12:08] <poningru> SzaraHill: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:08] <poningru> logjam is in synaptic
[12:08] <SzaraHill> poningru, 6.1
[12:08] <derrin> I'm using 6.06
[12:08] <poningru> atleast it is for me
[12:08] <SzaraHill> oh really?  I couldnt' find it
[12:08] <poningru> SzaraHill: did you search?
[12:08] <SzaraHill> I sure did
[12:08] <poningru> there is a search button there
[12:08] <xtheblack9x> !ntfs
[12:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:09] <poningru> do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[12:09] <poningru> SzaraHill: ^^
[12:09] <SzaraHill> yup poningru , I searched but didn't find it.
[12:09] <poningru> SzaraHill: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[12:09] <poningru> !universe | SzaraHill
[12:09] <ubotu> SzaraHill: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:10] <SzaraHill> ooohh, good point, I might not
[12:10] <_nnx_> poningru: Ah, found something.  Apparently there's a program to do it right on the disc.  /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[12:10] <Indy> Hello. Ubuntu does not still support X-Chat to is repositories?
[12:10] <SzaraHill> I do now.  just a few
[12:10] <Indy> * its repositories
[12:10] <Indy> Only xchat-gnome is available?
[12:11] <Priest-of-Psi> Indy: apt-cache search xchant
[12:11] <Priest-of-Psi> Indy: apt-cache search xchat
[12:11] <poningru> Indy: available through universe
[12:11] <derrin> Hi all!  Can anyone help, please?  My ubuntu system won't recognise my DV camera when I hook it up with firewire.  Any reason why not?
[12:11] <poningru> you have to enable the universe repository
[12:11] <Indy> poningru: how do I enable universe?
[12:11] <poningru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:11] <Skew-> none of the ctrl-alt functions work in ubuntu.. why is this?
[12:11] <Priest-of-Psi> Indy: check the wiki
[12:11] <Indy> poningru: ok. thanks.
[12:12] <SzaraHill> also another question, I've got a brand new (like, ten minutes old) installation, and I'm a little afraid of installing all 164 of the available updates because the os broke after I did that last time.  could have not been related, but...um...any suggestions?
[12:12] <joe4444> with Nautilus how do i disconnect from an SFTP server?
[12:12] <xtheblack9x> is there a keyboard shortcut to open terminal????
[12:12] <poningru> SzaraHill: naah go ahead and install the updates
[12:12] <SzaraHill> ah yes, now it's found logjam.  thanks poningru !!
[12:12] <poningru> joe4444: you just close the windows
[12:13] <jrib> xtheblack9x: no, but you can create one in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[12:13] <SzaraHill> anybody here installed mac-on-linux who can give me pointers when I get around to trying it?
[12:13] <xtheblack9x> THANK YOU jrib :)!!!!!!!
[12:13] <joe4444> poningru, that doesn't disconnect... when i open a new window and goto sftp://user@server i'm not prompted for a password... it just reconnects
[12:13] <Priest-of-Psi> SzaraHill: what?
[12:13] <kane77> anybody has an idea why wanda the fish applet died? (it shows animation of dead fish...)
[12:13] <poningru> joe4444: there is a timeout window
[12:13] <poningru> that determines when you logout
[12:13] <SzaraHill> kane77, maybe you forgot to feed her
[12:13] <SzaraHill> ?
[12:13] <poningru> lol
[12:14] <poningru> yeah I have no idea how that applet works
[12:14] <joe4444> poningru, so i can't explicitly disconnect?  or, could i alter the timeout window?
[12:14] <SzaraHill> Priest-of-Psi, what at what?
[12:14] <poningru> joe4444: I dont remember exactly how thats doable
[12:14] <poningru> joe4444: search through the wiki
[12:14] <Priest-of-Psi> SzaraHill: mac-on-linux
[12:14] <SzaraHill> Priest-of-Psi, it's a mac emulator for linux
[12:15] <joe4444> poningru, ubuntu wiki or nautilus wiki?
[12:15] <SzaraHill> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac-on-linux/
[12:15] <poningru> joe4444: both
[12:15] <poningru> joe4444: start with ubuntu
[12:16] <joe4444> ok, thanks
[12:17] <joe4444> i'd also like to set a shortcut for the terminal like xtheblack9x asked about... but when i try to set <Super>t it only registers <Super_L> and won't let me do the combo... can i manually edit this?
[12:18] <jrib> joe4444: yes, in gconf-editor   /apps/metacity
[12:18] <yellow_chicken> i have an md5sum error, but dont see why. http://rafb.net/p/eepZFK66.html  , i ran diff file1 file2
[12:18] <joe4444> jrib, thanks
[12:18] <derrin> Hi all!  Can anyone help, please?  My ubuntu system won't recognise my DV camera when I hook it up with firewire.  Any reason why not?
[12:18] <jrib> joe4444: if <super_l> doesn't work, you can use:
[12:18] <jrib> !winkey > joe4444    (joe4444, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:18] <xtheblack9x> joie4444 i just ran into the same problem lol
[12:19] <sogen> ubuntu need windows instaled ?
[12:19] <jrib> sogen: no
[12:19] <jrib> sogen: ubuntu is an operating system
[12:19] <sogen> then i dont need to have windows to use ubuntu ?
[12:20] <jrib> sogen: correct
[12:20] <xtheblack9x> sogen correct
[12:20] <joe4444> jrib, isn't there a shortcut to gconf-editor somewhere in the apps or system menu?
[12:20] <sogen> all programs work on ubuntu ?
[12:20] <derrin> Sogen:  ubuntu is an alternative to windows
[12:20] <jrib> joe4444: it got removed a couple of versions ago, you need to run 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[12:20] <xtheblack9x> sogen ubuntu has its own programs
[12:20] <sogen> all programs work on ubuntu ?
[12:20] <h3x0r> hey can someone help me install cedega i have tried a bunch of how-to's and im alaways getting stuck.
[12:20] <xtheblack9x> sogen most of the programs that windows has ubuntu has something like it
[12:20] <sogen> but i want to have photoshop
[12:21] <bullgard4> What does 'omf' stand for in the directory /usr/share/omf/drivemount?
[12:21] <joe4444> jrib, hmm i thought i saw it in the menu... maybe that was when i first tried xubuntu
[12:21] <derrin> Sogen:  ubuntu has alternative programmes to windows.  Many are better.
[12:21] <varka> what ist the directory /usr/share/omf specified to contain?
[12:21] <sogen> i have readed how to i it sey that i need install  windows
[12:21] <jrib> joe4444: it used to be in "system tools"
[12:21] <Priest-of-Psi> what is the text editor in gnome called?
[12:21] <sogen> and*