[06:32] <Artimus> I can't even stand having a desktop wallpaper, I just got used to desktop icons.  SuperKaramba would be hell...
[06:33] <gridl0ck> darlok: gwget
[06:34] <darlok> gridl0ck: That will only download the entire website, not let me specify WHICH types of files to download.
[06:34] <AboSamoo1> hi all , I have a prb with taskbar , it disappeared :(
[06:34] <sophy> how to do so that kubuntu stops to ask me the password of kdewallet ?
[06:34] <gridl0ck> like wget it has the option for recursive
[06:35] <darlok> gridl0ck: I know it does, but it doesn't let me say to ONLY download .pdf files, which is what I need.
[06:35] <gridl0ck> ah ok sorry misunderstood
[06:35] <gridl0ck> i use the konsole mostly
[06:36] <darlok> gridl0ck: Well, I've tried using wget, but it won't let me login to the website to download the protected files.
[06:36] <AboSamoo1> can anyone help me ? I have a prb with taskbar , it disappeared :(. it only appears at startup of KDE :( then disappears totally
[06:39] <[Ramy] > can anyone help me ? I have a prb with taskbar , it disappeared :(. it only appears at startup of KDE :( then disappears totally. it was set as auto-hide. how I can recover that , is there any text configuration file to be edited ?:(
[06:40] <melkor> is it set always on top?
[06:40] <[Ramy] > melkor , no I put it as Auto-hide then it disappeared totally
[06:41] <melkor> is anybody here running kde 4?
[06:42] <melkor> Ramy back when I had windows, the task bar was auto hide and it would pop up only if it was "always on top"
[06:43] <melkor> You can't even configure it though?  Because you can't right click on it?
[06:43] <[Ramy] > melkor , that if you want to change that option you have to get the taskbar first ?
[06:44] <melkor> kcontrol
[06:45] <clearview> Sysinfo for 'CLEARview-Feisty2': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.26GHz at 2266 MHz (4536 bogomips), , RAM: 315/503MB, 106 proc's, 3.7min up
[06:48] <melkor> Ramy could you change it in kcontrol, mine doesn't have 'autohide' option
[06:49] <iskaldur> is there a "restricted drivers manager" in kubuntu?
[06:50] <iskaldur> im trying to follow a tutorial for ubuntu-gnome that mentions it, but i cant find it =(
[06:50] <Jucato> iskaldur: there will be in Gutsy (release October
[06:50] <Jucato> but on feisty, no restricted manager yet
[06:50] <iskaldur> ah, so how do i do something like get my graphics card recognized?
[06:51] <Jucato> !nvidia
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <iskaldur> i have a intel graphics media accelerator 3100
[06:52] <iskaldur> =\
[06:52] <bfernandez> Ati caca
[06:53] <Jucato> !intel
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <bfernandez> Ati 9550 in Kubuntu  buuuuu
[06:53] <Jucato> iskaldur: hm... I believe intel has open source drivers already so there's no need for special drivers to be installed.. not really sure though
[06:53] <iskaldur> hmm, all i know is that my system settings says "graphics card: vesa"
[06:54] <iskaldur> =(
[06:54] <iskaldur> do you know how i can get my monitor recognized? (dell e207wfp)
[06:54] <bfernandez> i'm have Ati Radeon is more bad config in deb
[06:54] <bfernandez> :_(
[06:55] <emilsedgh> anyone knows that is there any plan to change the Adept's ui? Its really creative but really sucks at usability...
[06:55] <bfernandez> festy faw not run ati 9550
[06:58] <sophy> how to log automatically on a user ?
[07:03] <sea_4_ever> Can someone tell me where the source code of "Ktron" is?
[07:05] <m477> when i mount camera with flash disk i have one pic here what to do ?
[07:05] <emilsedgh> sea_4_ever: should be in the KDE's svn...
[07:06] <arykol> list
[07:07] <emilsedgh> sea_4_ever: go to http://websvn.kde.org to find it...
[07:08] <station4> ee
[07:08] <spiroo> !aptfix
[07:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:10] <GuyFromHell> out of curiosity, what is the point of using the UUID's instead of the /dev/(s|h)d[a-z] [0-9] 's
[07:10] <GuyFromHell> (in fstab)
[07:11] <Jucato> !uuid
[07:11] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:11] <Minnozz> Hi, I have a question: when I type 'su' in Konsole (and enter password X), I get authentification error. But when I use sudo .... (and enter password X), there's no problem. Why is that?
[07:12] <GuyFromHell> Jucato: k, and a quick google search answered me question as well. thanks
[07:12] <Jucato> !su | Minnozz
[07:12] <ubotu> Minnozz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:14] <spiroo> anyone know how to fix the damn audio encoding problem?
[07:14] <Minnozz> Jucato: aah, thanks :)
[07:14] <anon32> grr, VLC on KDE crashes when opening a file
[07:15] <jonathant> can someone help me with playing .mov files in firefox using vlc
[07:16] <emilsedgh> !mp3
[07:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:16] <anon32> jonathant, ....no
[07:18] <jonathant> what?
[07:23] <dhq>  hcid --> takes alot of my processes
[07:28] <Q-collective> hey all
[07:29] <AdamKili> hi
[07:30] <Q-collective> How do I activate the wikipedia feature in konversation? It seems this is deactivated by default in Kubuntu.
[07:31] <Jucato> Q-collective: it's enabled though. Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Auto Replace
[07:31] <anon32> Q-collective, it's active here
[07:31] <anon32> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=test
[07:34] <Q-collective> hmm
[07:34] <Q-collective> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=test
[07:34] <Q-collective> ah
[07:34] <Q-collective> good :)
[07:34] <Q-collective> thx Jucato
[07:38] <AdamKili> ok ok here goes: I've mounted a samba share through LinNeighborhood and was wondering how to make it automatically mount it like that? I've followed a guide to permanantly mount samba shares, but it mounts it like it mounts a CD, anyone know how to mount it permanantly like LinNeighborhood does? I think LinNeighborhood uses the command smbmnt but i can't figure it out
[07:41] <jhutchins> AdamKili: What i do is I put it in my fstab as type smbfs, auto, credentials.
[07:42] <anon32> can anyone recommend a kwin theme that doesn't have rounded edges?
[07:42] <jhutchins> AdamKili: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:42] <winbond> does anyone know if i can specify on which core to run cpuburn or how i can run it on all cores at the same time?
[07:46] <David_Edmundson> winbond: what's CPU burn?
[07:46] <spiroo> hello
[07:47] <David_Edmundson> it won't run on all cores unless it's threaded...to make it use more than one core, simply load it twice
[07:47] <spiroo> I wonder how do I cleanup adept tmp? It has in someway locked me out from install or update. I cannot do anything. I have access in adept, that is not the problem. The problem is that I cannot install or anything.
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> !apt-fix | spiroo
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> !aptfix | spiroo
[07:48] <ubotu> spiroo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:48] <spiroo> Then there is some error when trying to install jre1.4 (java)
[07:48] <spiroo> MilHouseRock, that is not the problem
[07:48] <spiroo> adept has not crach
[07:48] <spiroo> *crash
[07:49] <anon32> wtf, I need to compile new themes from source?
[07:49] <ubuntu> hi to all
[07:49] <emilsedgh> anon32: most the styles has packages, kde-style-*
[07:50] <anon32> yeah, but the fact that themes have to be compiled at all
[07:50] <anon32> ...
[07:50] <anon32> sounds broken
[07:50] <spiroo> adept says this when I trying to update:
[07:51] <spiroo> an error occured while updates should be done, someway like that
[07:52] <elite101> ello
[07:56] <_Shade_> how do i copy directory whole directory content (excluding subdirectory - just files in these) to another location?
[07:57] <llutz> cp -r /source /target
[07:59] <David_Edmundson> no, not that
[07:59] <David_Edmundson> cp source/* target/.
[08:01] <Max_Payne> anyone know how to add items to the right click menu in gnome when you right click a file
[08:02] <emilsedgh> Max_Payne: in Gnome?? this is the kubuntu channel, if you want that in KDE should take a look at KDE's Servicemenu's there is a tutorial on techbase.kde.org about them
[08:03] <Max_Payne> k, thanks
[08:05] <Frederick> folks I have a complain anyone else noticed the wireless apll from ubuntu beeing glitchy and buggy?
[08:05] <Frederick> I simply was unable to make it save my configs for the wireless net i use
[08:06] <screamx> can anyone help me please with wine and steam
[08:08] <elite101> wow i didnt know Konqueror downloads its own Plugins for Flash9???
[08:08] <spiroo> !soundfix
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <spiroo> !audiofix
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audiofix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <spiroo> !mp3fix
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <spiroo> !mp3
[08:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:09] <Karti> Hi all, I have a wireless usb and normally it works. But I am trying to install 32bit on a 64 bit system. IT seems to find everything except my usb ports,if someone could give pointers that would be fantastic - Cheers
[08:12] <dori> a recent update (from today) is causing me kernel panics, anyone else experience this?
[08:12] <dori> on feisty btw
[08:13] <winbond> what is the difference between generic and rt kernels?
[08:15] <llutz> winbond: rt means realtime, optimized latency
[08:15] <screamx> can anyone help with wine and steam?
[08:16] <winbond> llutz, what kind of latency?
[08:16] <llutz> winbond: for use in audio-systems etc.
[08:17] <winbond> llutz, so it doesnt help to run it on the desktop?
[08:17] <llutz> winbond: not at all
[08:17] <Biovore> rt kernels are really meant for embedded systems..
[08:17] <winbond> llutz, ok thanks
[08:19] <spiroo> what music format sounds best in linux gutsy?
[08:19] <adam> ok i know this is really basic, but how do I add a command for the computer to run at startup as root? i don't want it to bother me for my password either
[08:19] <spiroo> I wanna listen on music which sounds as it should be
[08:19] <NickPresta> spiroo, lossless formats. FLAC, for one.
[08:19] <Biovore> well flac is probably the best for quallity
[08:20] <spiroo> okay, flac then. Any other formats to recommend?
[08:20] <Biovore> ogg
[08:20] <NickPresta> You probably can't tell the difference between MP3 320kbps or Ogg Vorbis -q7.
[08:20] <Biovore> yeah..
[08:20] <adam> but ogg is lossy, just so you know
[08:20] <Biovore> yup. just like mp3
[08:21] <Biovore> different algroythems tough..
[08:21] <NickPresta> yeah.
[08:21] <NickPresta> Honestly, for portable devices, I use 320kbps MP3 and -q7 Ogg. I can't tell the difference. At home, when I have an amp and such, I use FLAC. It works out well
[08:21] <mrksbrd> is there a way to disable compiz fusion?
[08:22] <Biovore> to really hear the different on ogg vs mp4 you need to smash a sample down to 64Kb/s
[08:22] <mrksbrd> without installing it'
[08:22] <Biovore> ogg will still sound decent.. where mp3 will sounds like crud
[08:22] <mrksbrd> uninstalling that is!!!
[08:23] <adam> so does anyone know how to add a command for the computer to run at startup as root?
[08:24] <Biovore> adam: /etc/rc.local
[08:24] <Biovore> that will start it when the computer get turned on..
[08:24] <Biovore> add it in that script..
[08:25] <spiroo> hmm ogg-vorbis. Not many places to download in that format :D
[08:26] <spiroo> But is FLAC an open format?
[08:26] <llutz> spiroo: 90% of downloadably music is crap, so sound doesn't matter :)
[08:26] <spiroo> But in linux it cannot decode the sound good
[08:26] <spiroo> mp3 sounds like hell
[08:26] <llutz> flac is free
[08:26] <spiroo> In windows it works
[08:27] <llutz> use win then
[08:27] <adam> Biovore, do you know if it runs it as the root user? or do i need to add sudo to the command?
[08:27] <spiroo> No linux is better
[08:27] <Blissex> spiroo: the MP3 decoders available under LInux are pretty good, but many people prefer OGG Vorbis for sound quality.
[08:27] <spiroo> I jsut wanna listen to music without bugs/glippy sound
[08:27] <Blissex> spiroo: you have to install the better MP3 decoders or encoders.
[08:28] <spiroo> Okay, but the sound is not good. It is extremely disturbed from which it should be
[08:28] <spiroo> Which is the better ones then?
[08:28] <Biovore> yeah.. the default mp3 decoder you got probably dosn't handle vbr
[08:28] <Biovore> they why you hear the glitches.
[08:28] <Biovore> (thats)
[08:29] <Biovore> what you using for playback?
[08:29] <spiroo> I do not use the default. I am not sure what I use for what. I installed libxine-extracodecs
[08:30] <spiroo> But which packages playback plugins is the best?
[08:30] <spiroo> I jsut wanna listen to music so I can work. Cannot work when the sound, sounds like ******
[08:31] <Biovore> you using amarok for playback?
[08:32] <spiroo> yes
[08:33] <NickPresta> spiroo, perhaps you're doing something incorretly?  Where are you getting your music from?
[08:34] <spiroo> I use the music with highest bitrate and everything. The thing is that the decoders and plugins in linux does not handle mp3 correct because mp3 is a closed format.
[08:34] <spiroo> It is nothing wrong with the files
[08:34] <adenicio> elite101: u know how to enter recovery console on xp?with one of the f number like F10? my xp works for like 20seconds then sticks on me
[08:34] <Biovore> well I have no problems with mp3 playback here.. no skipping..
[08:34] <spiroo> Some music works, but when guitar and base it sounds glitchy and just noisy
[08:35] <spiroo> Biovore: which plugins and codecs do you use then?
[08:35] <Biovore> libxine-extra
[08:35] <spiroo> me too, some other problem then maybe.
[08:35] <Biovore> or mplayer
[08:36] <NickPresta> spiroo, if you have gstreamer-fuendo-mp3 install, remove it, and try gstreamer-bad instead (I've heard it helps a lot of people with "bad sounding" MP3s).
[08:36] <adenicio> #kubuntu-fr
[08:36] <spiroo> And I am absolutely sure it is nothing wrong on my files
[08:36] <llutz> but surely no generic-linux problem
[08:36] <spiroo> I do not have any gstream installed
[08:36] <Biovore> amarok can use gstream as a back-end as well...
[08:36] <spiroo> I think the interaction between my soundcard and linux is not very well
[08:37] <NickPresta> That is one possibility. :)
[08:37] <spiroo> i got in someway the music sound clearly but I have to reinstall all the time and then it updates and upgrade many packages.
[08:38] <adenicio> Biovore: are u good in solvin adept and apt-get problems?
[08:38] <spiroo> But the thing is that it sound correct in windows but not linux. Same files, different osund
[08:38] <Biovore> yeah.. But I hate doing it..
[08:38] <spiroo> *sound
[08:38] <NickPresta> !ask | adenicio
[08:38] <ubotu> adenicio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:39] <spiroo> !aptfix
[08:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:39] <adenicio> !lol | NickPresta
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <spiroo> But the sound problem, what could be wrong?
[08:40] <elite101> adenicio, when boooting up the computer rite befor the loading screen for WINDOWS XP then the slider bar press F5 or F8 befor it and then you will see a list of options Safemode/networking/Recove etc etc
[08:40] <llutz> spiroo: the driver, mixer-settings
[08:40] <spiroo> How do I know, which of them that is wrong then?
[08:41] <adenicio> elite101: ok i was playing with f_ f f10 none was good
[08:41] <adenicio> NickPresta: give me a while let me get the error to pop up then paste it in a pastebin
[08:42] <NickPresta> adenicio, okay :)
[08:42] <spiroo> llutz: ?
[08:42] <llutz> spiroo: test it
[08:42] <NickPresta> adenicio, I'll be back. I'm going to restart (kernel update)
[08:42] <llutz> spiroo: play around with mixer-setting and see if there's any differnece
[08:42] <spiroo> llutz: how, where, when, what?
[08:43] <spiroo> I have tried to change in mixer settings, no difference
[08:43] <llutz> spiroo: take the name of your soundcard and google for known probs.
[08:43] <llutz> spiroo: ask in #alsa for more ideas
[08:44] <spiroo> !nVidia MCP04
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia mcp04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <spiroo> :D
[08:46] <winbond> can someone point me to a good tutorial how to permanently install kde4
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> look at the channel header
[08:47] <emilsedgh> winbond: sudo apt-get install kde4base
[08:47] <prak> Biovore: are you there?
[08:47] <winbond> i did, already tried it once and it didnt work
[08:47] <emilsedgh> winbond: thats the Beta1, very unstable, Beta2 will come in 5-6 days
[08:48] <winbond> emilsedgh, alright, thats what i want , beta2, i can wait 6 days i guess
[08:48] <winbond> emilsedgh, thanks
[08:48] <emilsedgh> winbond: np
[08:49] <emilsedgh> winbond: if you followed that page, you have Beta1
[08:49] <emilsedgh> winbond: you could launch programs from /usr/lib/kde4 (I think)
[08:50] <winbond> emilsedgh, i did that a few days ago, but i couldnt even get the kde4 started
[08:50] <U238Willy> hello.. is there a ktorrent channel.. i tried #ktorrent but there's nothing there.
[08:50] <emilsedgh> winbond: I think there will be no session to 'start' it, there are just a few programs that you should launch, from kde3 session
[08:50] <prak> Biovore: i have a few questions to follow up with the questions that i asked you a few hours earlier
[08:51] <Biovore> oO
[08:52] <Biovore> prak: I have it working here..
[08:52] <winbond> emilsedgh, i did have the kde4 session, but it wouldnt start, it kist kicked me back to the login screen
[08:53] <emilsedgh> winbond: I dunno, but if you want, you could even launch Plasma from KDE3
[08:53] <winbond> emilsedgh,  and i couldnt do anything in the xephyr becouse it wouldnt work right, all i could see is a blank screen with a mouse icon
[08:55] <emilsedgh> winbond: try to launch /usr/lib/kde4/bin/plasma
[08:56] <winbond> emilsedgh, im on a fresh install, gonna wait for beta2
[08:56] <prak> first of all, how do i remove a directory with rmdir such that "rmdir: piklab-0.14.5: Directory not empty" would be gone?
[08:57] <SlimeyPete> use rm -r instead, or clear the directory first using plain rm.
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> prak: "rm -rf <directory name>"
[09:02] <prak> thanks nosrednaekim
[09:03] <Karti> Hi, just installed 32 bit on a 64 bit machine and it works fine, apart from recognizing my usb ports .....any ideas?
[09:03] <scorpking> i'm unable to get past kdm after an upgrade. 'Xsessions: warning: unable to write to /tmp;'
[09:05] <NickPresta> damn that kernel upgrade. Screwing up my grub =(
[09:05] <intelikey> scorpking reboot in recovery mode and issue    rm -fr /tmp ;mkdir tmp ;chmod 1777 /tmp ;init 2
[09:07] <scorpking> intelikey: thanks. i think there is a permission issue. if i run commands with sudo i also get errors. will be back just now.
[09:07] <scheater5> intelikey: would you mind walking me through why you suggest that command?  You're basically erasing /tmp and making a new one that you have write permission on, right?
[09:08] <intelikey> scheater5 yes. total rebuild of the tmp di
[09:08] <scheater5> so what does ;init2 do?
[09:08] <Biovore> takes you to run level 2
[09:08] <intelikey> not init2   but  init 2
[09:08] <intelikey> switches to runlevel 2 (the default)
[09:08] <scheater5> ic.  Thank you.
[09:09] <Karti> Hi all, just installed 32 bit on a 64 bit machine and it works fine, apart from recognizing my usb ports .....any ideas?
[09:09] <adaptr> none whatsoever
[09:10] <orcsoul> hmm... anybody here happen to know how i'd go about specifying specific packages when doing a fresh install, instead of just accepting the load of stuff that i'll never use that the livecd auto-installs?
[09:10] <intelikey> only needs three commands actually    rm -fr /tmp ;mkdir tmp -m 1777 ;init 2
[09:10] <adenicio> NickPresta: OK i put my error in a pastebin at http://pastebin.com/m3a4189f0
[09:10] <NickPresta> orcsoul, it's probably best to do the full update and then remove the packages you don't want.
[09:11] <scheater5> orcsoul: or you could install the server edition and manually add what you want, psuedo-BSD style.
[09:11] <trimmy> hi, has someone else had problems with canon printers?
[09:11] <orcsoul> doh, i was hoping that wouldn't be the case... guess that's what i'm gonna hafta do
[09:11] <trimmy> mine is pixma ip2000
[09:12] <intelikey> orcsoul use the alternate install cd
[09:12] <orcsoul> i am using the mini iso for ubuntu.. but it locks up on me after it asks which gui i want to use..
[09:12] <intelikey> install server   and add what you want
[09:13] <orcsoul> but the server method lets you select individual packages?
[09:13] <tomarus> list
[09:14] <intelikey> orcsoul no it is the mimimal install for *buntu   thus only 395m of files to get you to a console
[09:14] <scheater5> orcsoul: and then you can install what you want from apt-get
[09:14] <orcsoul> ah gotcha, then i'll go that route ... guess i'm gonna hafta burn another cd then.. lol
[09:14] <orcsoul> thanks for the advice
[09:15] <intelikey> that wasn't intenede as irony actually     pathetic isn't it...
[09:15] <intelikey> minimal should be less than 100m
[09:15] <NickPresta> adenicio, I did some research and I can't find the error (probably because I don't have the exact message to search). Does this happen with all packages or just xaw3dg?
[09:16] <intelikey> there is at least 300m of bloat in any *buntu
[09:16] <NickPresta> intelikey, agreed.
[09:17] <scheater5> intelikey: it probably should be that small, but even the server edition in ubuntu is not exactly "sparse."  So long as you're comfortable with a cli, you're left with a cozy OS.
[09:17] <emilsedgh> they should remove those windows stuff and put packages into the discs, instead of an image...
[09:18] <intelikey> scheater5 that's kinda what i said.   except cozy and bloated by 4X it's needed size
[09:18] <llutz> emilsedgh: just a netinstall-iso (like debian) would do the job
[09:19] <intelikey> llutz not for dialup users
[09:19] <intelikey> !netinstall
[09:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:19] <emilsedgh> llutz: you have high access to the intenet, what about the others (like me!), dial up really su***
[09:19] <scheater5> Does anyone know where I could find a very recent low-latency kernel for ubuntu?
[09:20] <scheater5> as in, more recent than the feisty repos, and the gusty repos don't have low-latency.  2.6.22-9 or newer
[09:20] <intelikey> scheater5 kernel.org get the source and build to suit taste
[09:20] <jussi01> can someone help me make kopete open links in firefox not konq?
[09:20] <prak> Biovore: i have deleted the directory and reconfiguring the make file now
[09:20] <scheater5> O joy.  I was desperately hoping to avoid compiling my own kernel.  I've never done that.
[09:20] <prak> i've had some problems with a particular directory
[09:21] <prak> waiting to get the printout right now
[09:21] <Biovore> prak: reconfigured make file?  you mean ./configure --prefix=/usr  ?
[09:21] <prak> yes
[09:22] <intelikey> scheater5 it's not hard anymore   you unpack the tarball  cd into the source dir and issue  make menu-config     or make xconfig   and set it up the way you want  then   make ;sudo make install
[09:22] <jussi01> scheater5: I think there is a realtime in gutsy though...
[09:22] <scheater5> jussi01: there were headers but no image as of last night
[09:23] <jussi01> scheater5: ok, I know its almost there, I think there is a link on the ubuntuforums website, hang on a second
[09:23] <jussi01> scheater5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441366
[09:24] <Biovore> prak: you working on make yet..
[09:24] <NickPresta> Is KOffice a a meta package. I want to remove Krita but apt wants to remove KOffice as well.
[09:24] <jts> hi all, compiling a new kernel, <IP_ADDRESS>, but dont know how to generete the /lib/firmware uname-r
[09:24] <prak> Biovore: stilling working on make
[09:24] <jts> hi all, compiling a new kernel, <IP_ADDRESS>, but dont know how to generete the /lib/firmware7'uname-r' files, anyone?
[09:25] <intelikey> !repete
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <scheater5> jussi01: why thank you.  I do believe that's exactly what I've been looking for
[09:25] <NickPresta> !repeat
[09:25] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:25] <Biovore> prak: ok cool.. let me know if it fails..
[09:26] <jussi01> scheater5: no probs
[09:26] <jussi01> :)
[09:26] <intelikey> jts doesn't it have a   make install-firmware   option ?    i know it has   make install-modules
[09:26] <adenicio> NickPresta: it happen whit all packs.i find people that had allmost the same prob but not with  sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox-libthai.if i can just uninstall that or fix it im good to go
[09:26] <scorpking> intelikey: still the same problem. Xsessions: unable to write to /tmp. it looks like a global permissions problem with something. /tmp is 777.
[09:26] <scheater5> But, for future reference - am I going to find something somewhere that says "low latency kernel" and compile that, or am I going to have to patch it myself?
[09:27] <intelikey> tmp should not be 777 it should be 1777
[09:27] <Biovore> no..
[09:27] <jussi01> scheater5: I think you will find realtime kernel, not low latency
[09:27] <Biovore> scheater5: its an option in the vinilla kernels..  (pre-emptable desktop)
[09:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> This is annoying. DigiKam's icon won't show up in KMenu, so I go and change it. I save the changes, and it STILL won't show up.
[09:28] <intelikey> and there is not "permission" that would prevent writing to a dir with 777 or 1777 perms
[09:28] <intelikey> so    full disk ?
[09:28] <intelikey> or bug
[09:28] <scheater5> Well, thank you all.  I guess I'm gonna go try this repo with rt kernels in it.
[09:28] <intelikey> pick your take and take your pick
[09:28] <Karti> someone tell me how to install 64bit usb drives or give me some pointers many thanks
[09:29] <scorpking> intelikey: i ran chmod 1777 /tmp as root. still same problem. :(
[09:29] <elite101> YES they sell C2D's in canada for 230$ xD
[09:29] <elite101> :) woot im getting one
[09:29] <jts> intelikey- do fakeroot make-dpkg --initrd --append to version... kernel_image kernel_headers  then intall the 2 images
[09:29] <scorpking> intelikey: kdm works fine. whatever runs after that has a problem. what logfiles should i check? Xorg?
[09:30] <adenicio> emilsedgh: hi i have problem installing packs etc with adept maneger and apt-get here are the errors i get http://pastebin.com/m3a4189f0
[09:30] <adenicio> scorpking:  hi i have problem installing packs etc with adept maneger and apt-get here are the errors i get http://pastebin.com/m3a4189f0
[09:30] <intelikey> scorpking kill dkm and run  startx as normal user
[09:31] <scorpking> intelikey: ok. one sec...
[09:31] <emilsedgh> adenicio: plz do not repeat, also that looks french, a little bit hard to understand, a few seconds please
[09:32] <scorpking> adenicio: i only have console on a laptop. not easy to jump around. have to fix something first. soz...
[09:32] <winbond> anyone familiar with crashme?
[09:32] <adenicio> emilsedgh: i translat it in the best i can
[09:33] <emilsedgh> adenicio: could I know that what package do you want to install?
[09:34] <emilsedgh> adenicio: ' files list file for package `firefox-libthai' is missing final newline', please apt-get update and try again, if didnt work please report a bug
[09:35] <scorpking> intelikey: same thing.
[09:35] <intelikey> honestly, i get uptight in a gui and my first instinct is to drop to a console so i can just issue the commands needed to preform the task at hand...
[09:35] <intelikey> scorpking what error message ?
[09:35] <intelikey> when startx fails it reposts on why
[09:35] <intelikey> so look for EE
[09:36] <adenicio> emilsedgh: no matter what i try to install its the same error
[09:36] <scorpking> intelikey: Xsessions: error: unable to write to /tmp. let me check again. one sec.
[09:36] <intelikey> scorpking issue   mount | grep ' / '
[09:37] <dick-richardson> can someone point me in the direction of a good resource to set kubuntu up to access the internet through my razr with alltel?
[09:38] <intelikey> razr ?
[09:38] <scorpking> intelikey: no other errors from X. everything is mounted rw.
[09:38] <intelikey> scorpking issue the command#   mount | grep ' / '
[09:39] <scorpking> intelikey: i did.
[09:39] <intelikey> it said ?\
[09:39] <scorpking> intelikey: showed mounted devices. all seems normal.
[09:39] <intelikey> and it said ?
[09:40] <scorpking> intelikey: lol. one sec
[09:41] <dick-richardson> intelikey: yeah, razr v3m\
[09:41] <scorpking> intelikey: it shows the same thing as a normal mount command. /dev/hda1 on / ....(rw,...
[09:41] <intelikey> also there isn't anything mounted on /tmp is there ?
[09:41] <llutz> dick-richardson: use kppp if you can connect the razr via bluetooth/usb
[09:42] <scorpking> intelikey: no
[09:42] <intelikey> ok   touch /tmp/boo
[09:43] <intelikey> any return on that investment ?
[09:43] <scorpking> intelikey: no errors
[09:43] <intelikey> ok   you have a bug my friend
[09:43] <intelikey> it's not an fs or permissions problem
[09:43] <dick-richardson> intelikey: i plugged the phone to the computer via usb...it's not seeing it as a modem
[09:43] <scorpking> intelikey: i think so too. permission bug. haha
[09:44] <intelikey> scorpking if so it's in the kernel
[09:44] <adenicio> emilsedgh: how to file a bug report?
[09:44] <intelikey> !bug
[09:44] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:44] <adenicio> emilsedgh: in a forum?
[09:44] <scorpking> intelikey: i did not update the kernel. thanks anyway.
[09:44] <emilsedgh> adenicio: :), do you have firefox-libthai installed?
[09:45] <scorpking> cheers ppl. have fun!
[09:45] <adenicio> emilsedgh: i dont know if its install or not it just giving me problem.how to check if its install i dont know how to use the search thing good
[09:46] <emilsedgh> adenicio: open adept manager
[09:46] <intelikey> scorpking like i said you have a bug.   probably in kded or kwin     if it were a "permissions bug" as you said it would be in the kernel.   seeing that it's treated differently console -vs- xorg then it's extreemly unlikely that it's in the kernel.
[09:47] <intelikey> said too late i see.
[09:47] <intelikey> don't ya like the way people slam the door on their way out....
[09:47] <adenicio> emilsedgh: oh yeah lol
[09:47] <intelikey> gooday gents, i'm out.
[09:48] <emilsedgh> :P
[09:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok, I need help. Basically, the Kmenu entry for DigiKam isn't showing an icon. I open the menu editor, change the icon to point to the right one, and save. I check again, and it still doesn't show up. It's only DigiKam that's doing this.
[09:49] <adenicio> emilsedgh: yes its install
[09:49] <adaptr> WhtWolfTeraDyne so is the icon valid ?
[09:49] <emilsedgh> adenicio: try removing it (before removing see if its uninstalling the Firefox or not, if yes, do not remove it)
[09:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> adaptr: Yes. It's the one that comes with DigiKam when you install it.
[09:50] <adaptr> open it in gimp and check the specs
[09:50] <dick-richardson> anyone familiar w/using a razr as a usb modem?
[09:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> adaptr: It's the one that comes with Kubuntu, I mean. It works, it just won't display for the DigiKam entry.
[09:51] <adaptr> do what I said - open it in gimp, re-save it, see if that helps
[09:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> adaptr: I even made a second entry for DigiKam, and it shows up.
[09:52] <adenicio> emilsedgh: it dont want to uninstall :( the error keep popin up
[09:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *sigh* now I can't get that old entry to go away.
[09:53] <emilsedgh> adenicio: i really dunno but looks like that the problem is from that package
[09:54] <adaptr> WhtWolfTeraDyne so edit the file, see what is going on
[09:54] <dick-richardson> what do I check when plugging something in via usb to see which /dev/ it is?
[09:54] <adenicio> emilsedgh: do u know if i delet it manually will it coast more prob?
[09:55] <emilsedgh> adenicio: yes, it will I think
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> dick-richardson: such as? lsusb ? dmesg ?
[09:56] <adaptr> dick-richardson if you're on udev, check that
[09:57] <adenicio> emilsedgh: firts it xp now linux.i will just format all and done with it
[09:57] <WaltzingAlong> adenicio: what is the issue?
[09:57] <myrtille> hi, I'm once again experiencing troubles with konversation... would anyone have the time to help me?
[09:57] <dick-richardson> [73690.860000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[09:57] <dick-richardson> [73691.020000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[09:57] <dick-richardson> [73691.200000]  cdc_acm 1-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[09:57] <dick-richardson> [73691.204000]  usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm
[09:57] <dick-richardson> [73691.204000]  /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.25:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[09:58] <emilsedgh> adenicio: thats not a usual problem, and if you play with it, could be easily fixed...
[09:58] <dick-richardson> oops, sorry :/
[09:58] <NickPresta> !ask | myrtille
[09:58] <ubotu> myrtille: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> myrtille: which problem?
[09:58] <myrtille> I'm trying to connect to a private server which is secured with an unsigned sshconnection
[09:59] <dick-richardson> so /dev/ttyACM0...?
[09:59] <myrtille> everytime I try to connect I get a lot of "ssh-connection" popups from kde
[09:59] <myrtille> the cpu is entirely in use for konversation and i can only kill it via shell
[09:59] <adenicio> emilsedgh: im playing with it 3days now i can even install any antivirus to check window
[10:00] <myrtille> I recall checking a box about ssh-information in konversation, but I don't recal what it said exavtly and i can't find it anymore, so i can't uncheck it
[10:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ah, figured it out.locate lde-digikam.desktop
[10:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> gah, hold on
[10:01] <emilsedgh> adenicio: well, I just want to suggest you one thing: Firefox is not a good WebBrowser for Kubuntu, try Konqueror, it rocks...
[10:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> "locate kde-digikam.desktop" shows me where the desktop file is, and the permissions were wrong. Probably happened when I installed my personallized package for Digikam 0.9.2
[10:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> the desktop file that the menu was linking to in "~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu", I mean.
[10:03] <emilsedgh> adenicio: also, 3 days is not so long ;)
[10:05] <adenicio> emilsedgh: konqueror do some good stuf but i had prob with flash that it dont play thats why i install firefox just for 2 websites
[10:06] <emilsedgh> adenicio: Konqueror installs flash automatically, but did you install flash for firefox? then Konqueror should fond it
[10:06] <emilsedgh> s/fond/find
[10:07] <emilsedgh> adenicio: go to settings->configure konqueror->plugins and press 'scan for new plugins'
[10:08] <richard> im trying to install a plugin to kde that makes it look like mac os x
[10:08] <richard> whats the name of it
[10:08] <emilsedgh> richard: baghira
[10:09] <damian_> hi
[10:09] <damian_> how do i make a script to open an .bin file?
[10:10] <richard> how do i get baghira from apt-get
[10:10] <damian_> how do i make a script to open a .bin file?
[10:11] <llutz> sudo aptitude install kwin-baghira
[10:11] <nec> witam
[10:11] <emilsedgh> richard: ya, install kwin-baghira package, from adept or aptitude or apt-get :P
[10:12] <pk_> hi. i have a problem with my Dell Inspiron 6400 and ATI proprietary drivers, when i use them system doesn't enter suspend, it just hangs with blank screen. any ideas how to fix this ?
[10:12] <damian_>  how do i make a script to open a .bin file?
[10:12] <evri2> when i boot my kubuntu,it says debian GNU/Linux system now.Anyone have any idea?
[10:13] <prak> Biovore: http://www.pastebin.ca/678258 shows the partial results of the first make and second make
[10:13] <emilsedgh> evri2: Ubuntu is based on Debian :) thats simple...
[10:13] <evri2> emilsedgh: i know but why did it change?
[10:13] <damian_> did you remove something lately?
[10:13] <jmgii> Hello everyone. I'm getting the following error when I attempt to install updates: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.16-2ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: files list file for package `xserver-xorg-video-all' is missing final newline
[10:14] <evri2> nope
[10:14] <jmgii> I've tried to uninstall/reinstall or dpkg fix ... but nothing works. Any thoughts?
[10:14] <Arwen> jmgii, the package is just broken
[10:14] <jmgii> Arwen, I downloaded a new copy and can't remove/update the old one.
[10:14] <Arwen> hmm
[10:14] <damian_> did you actualized something?
[10:14] <evri2> do you know that grapical boot which show kubuntu logo and a progress bar?
[10:14] <Arwen> yes
[10:14] <jmgii> evri2, yes
[10:15] <Arwen> ...why is KDE spamming an "env" and "share" directory into my home folder?
[10:15] <evri2> it changed with lines which tolds what kubuntu do while booting.Like mounting filesystems etc.
[10:15] <evri2> activate swap
[10:15] <richard> i have macmenu applet installed
[10:15] <evri2> start HP printing system etc.
[10:16] <richard> does anyone know how to uninstall it
[10:16] <ScorpKing> intelikey: u still there?
[10:16] <damian_> does anyone now how to open a .bin file whit a script?? the console command is ./visualboyadvance rubi.zip to open pokemon rubi but how do i put that in a script
[10:17] <ScorpKing> intelikey: it's fixed. full root filesystem. 0% free. haha. i'm blond. thanks again for all the trouble. :-D
[10:17] <Arwen> say what?
[10:17] <Arwen> scripts are just chains of commands separated by newlines
[10:18] <serega> kubuntu rocks!
[10:18] <aguitel> anyone know how work LookingGlass ?
[10:18] <jmgii> arwen, I didn't change anything in the packages other than to install updates when they're available. Last week I started getting this error and now the updated packages are piling up (7 pending now)
[10:19] <x_link> Hi
[10:19] <damian_> this is my script:
[10:19] <damian_> #!bin/bash
[10:19] <damian_> cd /home/damian/Desktop/gameboy
[10:19] <damian_> exec ./VisualBoyAdvance rubi.zip
[10:19] <x_link> Questiontime again =)
[10:19] <emilsedgh> aguitel: did you try beryl/compiz?
[10:19] <Arwen> jmgii, look, what makes you think I know what to do?
[10:19] <x_link> Which is best to use in Kubuntu, aptitude or apt-get?
[10:19] <ScorpKing> aptitude
[10:19] <Arwen> damian_, well, does it work?
[10:19] <damian_> no thats the problem
[10:19] <x_link> ScorpKing: Okej.
[10:20] <damian_> it does nothing
[10:20] <aguitel> emilsedgh ,my card not support beryl
[10:20] <jmgii> arwen, perhaps you don't which is perfectly ok with me.
[10:20] <serega> x_link: adept_manager
[10:20] <Arwen> damian_, well, what happens?
[10:20] <emilsedgh> scorpking: why aptitude is better? (just asking, not offending)
[10:20] <ScorpKing> x_link: i find it very easy to work.:-D
[10:20] <emilsedgh> aguitel: so try #ubuntu-effects ?
[10:20] <aguitel> thanks
[10:20] <damian_> if i don t put executable in properties it opens an empity console
[10:21] <damian_> if i put it it does nothing
[10:21] <Arwen> ..............
[10:21] <Arwen> run the script in a... terminal maybe?
[10:22] <damian_> run in console does nothing to
[10:22] <rami> Have anyone experienced that Mozilla lage frequently?
[10:22] <damian_> it is a .sh archive
[10:22] <rami> lag*
[10:22] <Arwen> ...
[10:23] <prak> Biovore: did you get my last message?
[10:23] <Arwen> damian_, do a ls -l <script name>
[10:24] <damian_> it said me this
[10:24] <damian_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 damian damian<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-08 10:52 VisualBoyAdvance
[10:25] <Arwen> forget it, you're hopeless
[10:25] <damian_> why?
[10:28] <damian_> arwen why am i lost?
[10:28] <damian_> hopeless no lost sorry
[10:28] <Tux> hi there
[10:28] <kai_> hallo
[10:29] <kai_> hello
[10:29] <kai_> hi
[10:30] <nicolai_> !codeofconduct | Arwen
[10:30] <ubotu> Arwen: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:30] <Tux> hi kai
[10:30] <kai_> hi
[10:31] <kai_> hi tux
[10:32] <Tux> how are u doing kai_?
[10:32] <kai_> i watch tv Tux
[10:32] <Tux> ok
[10:32] <kai_> and you?
[10:33] <Tux> na, nothing here
[10:33] <kai_> are you german?
[10:33] <Tux> xD
[10:33] <Tux> nop
[10:33] <kai_> ok
[10:33] <Tux> im from argentina
[10:33] <prak> !youtube
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <kai_> how old are you?
[10:34] <prak> Biovore: did you get my last message?
[10:34] <Tux> 16
[10:35] <kai_> ok i am 14
[10:35] <kai_> kubuntu is good
[10:36] <nicolai_> !offtopic | kai_ and Tux
[10:36] <ubotu> kai_ and Tux: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:36] <Tux> yea yea, ok, sorry
[10:36] <Tux> he was asking
[10:36] <kai_> n
[10:36] <nicolai_> Just saying :)
[10:36] <Tux> xD
[10:36] <kai_> hmm#
[10:37] <kai_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:38] <kai_> lol
[10:38] <Tux> ?
[10:38] <kai_> XD
[10:39] <kai_> i am watching mtv
[10:40] <Gangater> hr
[10:40] <[GuS] > Tux, vecino :P
[10:41] <Gangater> XD
[10:41] <Gangater> what for channels give it
[10:41] <Sapphire-Tux> xD
[10:42] <Gangater> how i install java on kubuntu??
[10:42] <[GuS] > for firefox plugin?
[10:42] <nicolai_> !java
[10:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:43] <[GuS] > sun-java5 is old
[10:43] <[GuS] > you have sun-java6
[10:43] <Gangater> yes
[10:43] <Sapphire-Tux> yep, yoo
[10:43] <[GuS] > so, will be sun-java6-jre
[10:43] <Sapphire-Tux> too*
[10:43] <Sapphire-Tux> sun-java6-jre
[10:43] <Sapphire-Tux> and sun-java6-plugins for firefox and other browsers
[10:43] <[GuS] > exactly
[10:44] <Sapphire-Tux> ^_^
[10:44] <Gangater> thats not going
[10:44] <Gangater> it can not find it
[10:44] <Arwen> doesn't Dolphin have any kind of a tree view?
[10:45] <Gangater> help
[10:45] <[GuS] > Dolphin remembers me Gnome nautilus... puaj
[10:45] <[GuS] > :P
[10:45] <Gangater> what must i do?
[10:46] <Sapphire-Tux> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[10:46] <Sapphire-Tux> u did that?
[10:46] <Gangater> yes can not find it then
[10:46] <somiran> my kopete is not working
[10:47] <emilsedgh> Arwen: dolphin of kde 3.x isnt good, the original dolphin iss on kde 4.x which has tree view, dont worry
[10:47] <Gangater> why cant find java
[10:47] <somiran> i mean it does not go to online
[10:47] <Arwen> emilsedgh, ok
[10:48] <Gangater> what should i do
[10:48] <somiran> i need help ?
[10:48] <Gangater> i too
[10:48] <Sapphire-Tux> umm..
[10:48] <Sapphire-Tux> thats weird..
[10:48] <Sapphire-Tux> u have kubuntu feisty?
[10:48] <gan|y|med> hi
[10:49] <[GuS] > just in case, do you have all repositories enabled?
[10:49] <Gangater> ??
[10:49] <gan|y|med> i am trying out compiz, but i don't have window borders. how can restart emerald?
[10:49] <somiran> help
[10:49] <Arwen> gan|y|med, emerald --replace
[10:50] <Gangater> meen me?
[10:50] <Gerrit> How do I instruct kubuntu to "whenever disconnected from access point <foo>, try to reconnect to access point <foo>"?
[10:50] <Arwen> Gangater, no. What was that? "can't find java"?
[10:50] <Gerrit> Now, I click on the KNetworkManager applet each time to do it by hand
[10:51] <Gerrit> and keep trying until it works
[10:51] <Gerrit> How do I best automise that?
[10:51] <Gangater> when i write sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin    it cant find  it
[10:51] <somiran> can anyone help me to work kopete
[10:52] <prak> http://www.pastebin.ca/678258 shows the partial results of the first make and second make of piklab tarball on its sourceforge website
[10:53] <somiran> #ubuntu.in
[10:53] <prak> i have been having trouble with the make process after successfully completing the ./configure process of the extracted contents of the tarbal
[10:53] <prak> *tarball
[10:53] <Gangater> help
[10:54] <somiran> none in india
[10:54] <nicolai_> Gangater: you need to enable the mulitverse and restricted repositories
[10:55] <Gangater> how
[10:55] <nicolai_> Gangater: are you in Feisty?
[10:55] <Gangater> what is it
[10:56] <Gerrit> What does KNetworkManagers 'connect to access point X' do under the hood, what command?
[10:56] <nicolai_> !feisty | Gangater
[10:57] <somiran> kopete help ?
[10:57] <ubotu> Gangater: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:57] <emilsedgh> somiran: just ask...
[10:57] <principe-ante> joder cuanta gente ahi aqui
[10:57] <prak> !make
[10:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:57] <somiran> hello i have feisty but kopete is not working
[10:58] <Gangater> i have kubuntu 6.06
[10:58] <tashkowski> is it possible to know through apt-get if a certain package is already installed ?
[10:58] <nicolai_> somiran: how is it not working? you need to be more specific. :)
[10:58] <crimsun> tashkowski: dpkg -l foo
[10:58] <emilsedgh> somiran: whats the problem? doesnt get opened, doesnt connect...?
[10:58] <somiran> it does not going to online
[10:59] <somiran> ya rite it cant connect web
[10:59] <gan|y|med> thx
[11:00] <tashkowski> crimsun: o_O
[11:00] <nicolai_> Gangater: Sorry, I can't remember exactly how enable it in 6.06. Someone else might be of more use.
[11:00] <tashkowski> can you describe a little bit what the heck is that ?
[11:00] <prak> does anyone know how to change a particular path in a configure script?
[11:00] <Gangater> =*(
[11:01] <crimsun> tashkowski: it's a command that you execute from the command line.
[11:01] <crimsun> tashkowski: replace "foo" with the appropriate binary package name to query.
[11:01] <somiran> my kopete seems to be dead when i am trying to go online
[11:01] <screamx> can anyone help me with wine and steam???
[11:01] <nicolai_> Gangater: but if you open adept and go to "manage archive" you should get a list of sources.
[11:01] <crimsun> tashkowski: e.g., dpkg -l libc6
[11:01] <tashkowski> hmm nice
[11:03] <Gangater> yes i cant find it there
[11:04] <nicolai_> Gangater: add these two lines:
[11:04] <nicolai_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:04] <nicolai_> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:05] <nicolai_> After you've added these repositories, click apply, then 'get updates' in Adept
[11:05] <nicolai_> Gangater: You got that?
[11:05] <Gangater> wait i search
[11:06] <bradsnet> So... I'm about at the end of my rope with these nvidia drivers... anyone willing to help? I tried installing nvidia-glx, I tried using the installation from nvidia.com... x simply won't start. Anyone?
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: you followed the ubuntu tutorial?
[11:07] <bradsnet> Maybe.
[11:07] <bradsnet> I'm using kubuntu... I followed every tutorial I could find.
[11:07] <nicolai_> bradsnet: From a fresh install this should work: install nvidia-glx, then go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> graphics card -> proprietary
[11:07] <prak> does anyone know how to change a particular path in a configure script?
[11:08] <myrtille> if anyone is still wondering about my konversationproblem: i found a link stating, that it's a bug of some sort :http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/konversation-devel/2006-December/001525.html
[11:08] <Gangater> for what i must watch java6??
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> prak: edit the configure script I think.
[11:08] <bradsnet> nicolai_: 1 sec
[11:08] <tashkowski> crimsun: thanks, that's just what I was looking for. Just one more thing, do you know what means the "p" word when one searches for packages with apt-get
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> prak: although EXPORT might work
[11:09] <nicolai_> Gangater: I'm not sure I understand you :/
[11:09] <Gangater> hm
[11:09] <tashkowski> *with aptitude
[11:10] <Gangater> what i  must install there
[11:11] <bradsnet> nicolai_: I get as far as graphics card... I don't see proprietary anywhere.
[11:11] <bradsnet> Okay, I see it, it is disabled.
[11:12] <bradsnet> Selecting my card doesn't enable it.
[11:12] <prak> nosrednaekim: currently editing the configure script in nano right now
[11:12] <nicolai_> bradsnet: installing nvidia-glx from the repositories should usually be enough to make it clickable.
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> prak: ok....
[11:13] <Gangater> at adept manager
[11:13] <Gangater> i cant find
[11:14] <bradsnet> installed....
[11:14] <prak> nosrednaekim: I'm having trouble with the make install command as described in http://www.pastebin.ca/678258 for installing piklab (tarball) from its sourceforge website
[11:14] <prak> i'm not sure which path i should change it to
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> ok.. I'll take a look
[11:14] <nicolai_> Gangater: did you follow the instructions I gave you earlier?
[11:14] <Gangater> this with adept manager?
[11:15] <nicolai_> Yes
[11:15] <Gangater> yes i do that
[11:15] <bradsnet> selected...
[11:15] <bradsnet> restarting x...
[11:16] <somiran> i wen to kopete page but could not worked out to run kopete
[11:16] <Gangater> hmm
[11:16] <bradsnet> Blank screen, flashing cursor.
[11:16] <somiran> sorry went to kopete ubuntu page
[11:17] <bradsnet> Can someone remind me where the x log is? It's like x.0.log or something?
[11:17] <pk_> /var/log
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> its in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:18] <vbgunz> anybody here run virtualbox 1.4.0, on kubuntu 7.04 and notice, X crashes on you randomly after either being idle or switching to another user account? also do you notice your mouse doing funny things on the desktop like being confused when dragging a file across it?
[11:18] <bradsnet> Failed to initialize the glx module?
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> prak: ah..looks like you installed it locally.
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: run "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[11:19] <prak> nosrednaekim: how do you know i've installed it locally?
[11:19] <prak> i can't open the program
[11:19] <Gangater> at adept manager? i search for java but there are nothing like plugins i think
[11:19] <bradsnet> Failed to load /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol _nv000043g1 <---the first error I see.
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> prak: lol... sorry, you missed a step. run "sudo make instal"
[11:20] <bradsnet> nosrednaekim: nvidia is listed.
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: hmm ok. would it be hard for you to pastebin your xorg log?
[11:21] <bradsnet> I have no idea how to go about that.
[11:21] <Gangater> ??
[11:21] <prak> nosrednaekim: the pastebin has the "sudo make install" steps below
[11:21] <prak> it failed
[11:21] <prak> b/c of some path problems
[11:22] <Gangater> admin
[11:22] <bradsnet> What about the error I posted, not useful?
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> I don't see any make install or errors there of.
[11:22] <bradsnet> Failed to load /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol _nv000043g1 <---the first error I see.
[11:22] <GoodHabit> Hello. How I can install kde4 on my kubuntu feisty? Where I can find the instructions for newbie?
[11:22] <redfive> can someone help with compiz?
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> GoodHabit: look at the title bar.
[11:22] <Gangater> hhelp
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[11:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:23] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: install kde4base from adept manager
[11:23] <emilsedgh> redfive: just ask...
[11:23] <redfive> compiz is beryl now?
[11:23] <somiran> gangater if there is no java in your adept then update your adept
[11:23] <Gangater> how
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: any other errors?
[11:23] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: Yes, i have installed. But i dunno how to run. Can u help me? I have some troubles with english, so it is hard for me. ^|
[11:24] <emilsedgh> redfive: no, Beryl forked from Compiz, now they are merged again with the name of 'CompizFusion'
[11:24] <bradsnet> Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[11:24] <bradsnet> Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7)
[11:24] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: thats not hard, just run application from /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[11:24] <bradsnet> That's all.
[11:24] <somiran> what options do you get in your adept
[11:25] <GoodHabit> What application?
[11:25] <prak> nosrednaekim: hence the need to edit my configure script
[11:25] <GoodHabit> Sorry, explain me plese...
[11:25] <redfive> ok where is the best guid for CompizFusion
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: ok... did you try the restricted-manager yet?
[11:25] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: every application that you want, go to /usr/lib/kde4
[11:25] <bradsnet> Yes, it makes things far worse.
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> prak: I don't understand, I do not see, in that paste, any place where you ran "make install"
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: but vesa works?
[11:26] <GoodHabit> What about whole KDE4 desktop?
[11:26] <GoodHabit> Is it real?
[11:26] <bradsnet> vesa works, nv works
[11:26] <bradsnet> I just want to get 3d acceleration working to play a game.
[11:26] <Gangater> is here anobody german`?
[11:27] <nemo_> hallo
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: yeah.... what bard?
[11:27] <prak> nosrednaekim: http://www.pastebin.ca/678332
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> *card
[11:27] <Gangater> hmm
[11:27] <bradsnet> So, is it possible I don't have libglx installed? or is it supposed to install with nvidia-glx?
[11:27] <prak> printout got over limit
[11:27] <bradsnet> geforce 6800 go ultra
[11:28] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: yup, run plasma from there
[11:28] <redfive> what is the best wat to get samba working on kubuntu? like auto mapping network shares and such?
[11:28] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: go to KMenu->run command, then run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/plasma
[11:29] <bradsnet> Hmm, that libglx.so is definately where it says it can't find it...
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> prak: ah.. ok. I don't know if that is a PATH problem at all. seems to be a problem with actually MAKEING a directory.
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: did you try leaving a post on the forums? more people see that.
[11:30] <prak> nosrednaekim: ok...
[11:30] <Arwen> man, now that I added a second display, I can't find any good use for my 4 virtual displays
[11:30] <nosrednaekim> http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:30] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: lol
[11:30] <GoodHabit> Wow, so easy? Last question - good way is install kde4base-dev or kde4base?
[11:30] <hans_> jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[11:31] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, I mean, with the new space, I just can't be bothered to switch between desktops :-\
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> GoodHabit: I'd install both just to be sure
[11:31] <bradsnet> I've been trying to save that for a last resort...
[11:31] <Gangater> help
[11:31] <bradsnet> I dislike forums.
[11:31] <danielronin> can anyone help me figure out if I'm using proper version of fiesty for my new laptop? I have an Asus F3t with a Turion T-56, but I used an i386 install disc as it was the only one I had d/led at the moment
[11:31] <danielronin> is this just an issue of getting some new drivers?
[11:31] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: kde4base-dev is not for you, thats for developers, try kde4games, kde4multimedia and... (most of them are very unstable and do not work)
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> danielronin: thats fine.
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> emilsedgh: I read that you needed kde4base-dev.
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> as well
[11:32] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: thats for dev's, i installed them witouth it
[11:33] <Gangater> nick dacer
[11:33] <bradsnet> Someone with the same problem on the forum was linked to this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 I don't see what there relates.. any clues?
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> GoodHabit: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[11:33] <danielronin> what should i use to get compiz running? the turion is a 64x2, but can i do that if i installed an i386 iso?
[11:33] <dacer> yeah
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> danielronin: oh yeah... I have a turion x2 running fiesty 32 bit. everything works
[11:34] <danielronin> should i use the i386 graphics packages or the 64? (also have nVidea 7600 geforce go)
[11:35] <prak> nosrednaekim: how would you suggest to solve the problem?
[11:35] <bradsnet> That is one reason I dislike forums, people just post a link expecting you to know what the heck they are talking about... what they want you to see...
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: right.... I think the point to that one was the instructions on the bottom on the first post.
[11:36] <dacer> german??
[11:36] <bradsnet> I followed those already....
[11:36] <GoodHabit> Whai is replacing kicker on kde4?
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: oops... NM.. its the SECOND post.
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> GoodHabit: it will be replaced by a plasmoid.. but that hasn't happened yet.
[11:36] <dacer> #ubuntu
[11:37] <danielronin> nosrednaekim: so far everything is wonderful, but i noticed the openGL screensavers are choppy, moreso than i'd expect with that 256vram and that turion
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: did you try that command in the second post when manually installing?
[11:37] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: no, the plasmoids will be placed on it...Panel will be a container...
[11:37] <danielronin> know why that might be?
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> danielronin: yeah... what video card do you have>
[11:37] <bradsnet> I'm using the 100.14.11 driver... it says 100.14 doesn't need that workaround.
[11:37] <danielronin> a 7600 geforce go
[11:37] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: and its development in being started...
[11:38] <GoodHabit> And I think last. New applications - new amarok, new kopete. Where to find them?
[11:38] <bradsnet> I suppose I could do it anyway.
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I know... but its not in beta1
[11:38] <danielronin> is there a beter driver i should be using?
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> danielronin: yeah.. probably, get the restricted-manager and install the nvidia driver
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: why so bleeding edge for that older card?
[11:39] <bradsnet> It's what nvidia told me to do.
[11:39] <bradsnet> Heck if I know.
[11:39] <bradsnet> Why wouldn't I install the latest drivers?
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> prak: I'd ask on the package'smailing list.
[11:40] <prak> ok
[11:40] <GoodHabit> Huh... Kopete do not supports jabber (((
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: lol. normally the stock nvidia drivers work... did you try to debug those? Like look at log files and all?
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> GoodHabit: yeah.. it does
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> in kde3 at least
[11:40] <GoodHabit> I mean kde4 kopete
[11:40] <GoodHabit> ^)
[11:40] <bradsnet> Yeah, I think those gave a different error.
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> bradsnet: eh.... I thought the 100 series was still kinda in a beta stage.,... but I may be wrong
[11:41] <prak> nosrednaekim: ok thanks
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> prak: sorry that I couldn't help more
[11:42] <bradsnet> Okay, that was odd.
[11:42] <prak> nosrednaekim: Biovore managed to install it clean
[11:42] <nosrednaekim> what?
[11:42] <bradsnet> X just restarted on my ubuntu system, what I'm using to talk in here... no error or anything. Sigh.
[11:44] <prak> nosrednaekim: i talked to Biovore on this channel 12 hours ago
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> hmmm
[11:44] <prak> and he managed to install it
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> prak: thats odd
[11:44] <danielronin> nosrednaikim: restricted-manager?
[11:45] <nosrednaekim> danielronin: yeah "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" it helps you set up proprietary video drivers and such.
[11:46] <halohunter> hello
[11:46] <danielronin> thanks =)
[11:46] <halohunter> i can u help me
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> yup.. askyour question
[11:47] <halohunter> i need help setting up team speak on my cpu
[11:47] <halohunter> i use ubuntu 7.04
[11:48] <nosrednaekim> team speak?
[11:48] <nosrednaekim> what is that>
[11:48] <halohunter> somthing so u can talk to people on diff games
[11:49] <halohunter> like talk to some one wile playing wolf et
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> it's sort of like game-oriented voip chat
[11:49] <halohunter> yes
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[11:50] <halohunter> is namol on i know he can help me
[11:51] <bradsnet> I wonder if this is my issue: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html
[11:51] <bradsnet> Oh, he left.
[11:52] <bradsnet> Sigh.
[11:52] <snowdonkey> Hey guys, I want Windows XP & Vista virtualization like Parallels for Mac.  I've know about VMWare.  Any others you recommend?
[11:55] <redfive> ok, how do i completly remove beryl?
[11:57] <snowdonkey> redfive: did you install it in Feisty?
[11:57] <redfive> yes
[11:57] <danielronin> how do i access restricted-manager in KDE?
[11:58] <redfive> i had beryl working fine, and im now trying to switch to compiz fution
[11:59] <redfive> does compiz fition hevr window decorations like emerald?
[12:00] <snowdonkey> redfive: try typing: "sudo aptitude purge beryl" or "sudo apt-get remove beryl", whichever you used to install
, does that remove emerald too?
[12:01] <redfive> i caint find any theme manager like there was with beral for emerald
[12:01] <GoodHabit> Hello. Where I can find pptp vpn configurator? I cannot find it.
[12:02] <prak> Biovore: are you there?
[12:03] <DaleksUnited> help_me: with what? :P
[12:04] <help_me> hii all first
[12:04] <ScorpKing> hi
[12:05] <help_me> i have beryl problem i cant found a nice driver for ati sapphire x550 slient
[12:05] <Arwen> Beryl is dead software...
[12:05] <Arwen> !fglrx
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <help_me> can supported beryl ?
[12:06] <Arwen> I don't know, it's dead software so I stopped caring.
[12:07] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:08] <GoodHabit> I have kubuntu on my pc. How I can use PPTP VPN on kubuntu using kubuntu tools?
[12:08] <help_me> one min later for change os....
[12:10] <_michael> Hi is there a way to make a second kicker panel use a different background tile than the main panel?
[12:15] <GuyFromHell> okay... so i accidentally deleted /boot (long story involving windows bootloader)...
[12:15] <GuyFromHell> anyone have any ideas?
[12:16] <ScorpKing> is there way to load the password for an encryted loopback filesystem from a usb flash disk at startup?
[12:16] <ScorpKing> *encrypted
[12:17] <ScorpKing> GuyFromHell: do you have a spare hd?
[12:18] <GuyFromHell> ScorpKing: why?
[12:19] <GuyFromHell> (it's a laptop either way)
[12:19] <ScorpKing> GuyFromHell: do another install on it and copy the files from /boot. :-)
[12:21] <ScorpKing> GuyFromHell: laptop is not that easy. can't just add another drive. i just spend all day getting mine back up.
[12:21] <GuyFromHell> nvm i found it
[12:27] <bradsnet> I don't suppose anyone wants to try to help me get nvidia-glx working?
[12:27] <klobster> !nvidia | bradsnet
[12:27] <ubotu> bradsnet: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <bradsnet> Yeah, I did that.
[12:28] <bradsnet> And followed the links to deal with issues and did all that stuff too.
[12:28] <klobster> what happened?
[12:28] <bradsnet> Boots to a blank screen with a flashing cursor...
[12:29] <bradsnet> The Xorg.0.log has had errors sometimes, sometimes not... currently no errors but I still get the same effect, blinking cursor, nothing.
[12:29] <bradsnet> It's a laptop, it's not outputting to a secondary device.
[12:30] <klobster> sounds a bit over my head, I'm afraid.
[12:30] <bradsnet> Sometimes it says it can't load libglx.so.
[12:30] <bradsnet> Yeah, seems like I'm just screwed.
[12:30] <klobster> it doesn't get to a shell prompt?
[12:31] <ScorpKing> bradsnet: sounds like the drivers doesn't get loaded
[12:31] <bradsnet> No, but I can get to one with ctrl+alt+f1
[12:31] <klobster> sounds like it's hanging while waiting for a driver, check your kernel log
[12:31] <bradsnet> scorp: Yeah, someone showed me how to check that... it seemed they were... by now I may have screwed things up too badly to figure that out though.
[12:31] <bradsnet> kernel log?
[12:32] <klobster> bradsnet: can you dpaste the dmesg output?
[12:32] <klobster> bradsnet: it's in the same folder as your X log
[12:33] <bradsnet> kern.log? Doesn't seem to have any nvidia related errors, or any others that I can recongize.
[12:33] <bradsnet> dmesg?
[12:33] <bradsnet> dpaste?
[12:34] <ScorpKing> bradsnet: if all fail, install drivers while in runlevel 1 and go back to 3 or 5 (whatever). u should have graphics but after u restart the problem might be back.
[12:34] <sumguy231> bradsnet: Either look at /var/log/dmesg, or just get the output of the 'dmesg' command. Then use the pastebin.
[12:35] <bradsnet> dmesg | grep nvidia returns nothing if that helps.
[12:35] <bradsnet> I'm not sure how I can do that.
[12:35] <klobster> !pastebin
[12:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:36] <sumguy231> I stepped in a little late on this conversation, did you ever post the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? That would probably help a lot.
[12:36] <bradsnet> I'm not sure how I could do that either.
[12:36] <bradsnet> Only way I can get into X at the moment is if I reconfig to use "nv" ...


[03:58] <ernop> hey guys, got a question - i had an AMI in one region and used cloudyscripts "copy AMI to another region" thing to copy it.  but when I start the new instance, I can't connect - ssl times out.  Is there some step i'm missing?  I can start copies of it in the original region and connect no problem.
[04:01] <ernop> (and I am running a modified 10.10 server AMI)
[06:46] <SpamapS> ernop: my first question would be why are you using a modified AMI? (keep in mind, I'm a novice, but I only ever use cloud-config customized instances)
[07:13] <Makere> kind of lost of where to start to get an image dl'd from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/ to run
[07:13] <Makere> any ideas what I should check?
[07:22] <ernop> SpamapS - by modified I just mean that I have installed a bunch of my own stuff on it.  Thing is, it worked in the original region.
[07:40] <SpamapS> Makere: meaning downloaded to run in UEC (as in, eucalyptus) ?
[07:42] <SpamapS> ernop: yeah, I think I'd do that by putting all of my stuff in a dir and tarring that dir up, or use a proper config management system like puppet/chef.
[07:42] <Makere> SpamapS: yes
[07:43] <Makere> and used the uec-publish-tarball
[07:43] <Makere> to push it there
[07:53] <Makere> fml
[08:43] <ernop> SpamapS ok, good idea.
[11:47] <Makere> So I tried creating a new uec image using this guide: http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/eucalyptus-beginner%E2%80%99s-guide-%E2%80%93-uec-edition-chapter-4-%E2%80%93-image%C2%A0management/
[11:48] <Makere> the instances get stuck on pending, any troubleshooting tips?
[13:23] <Makere> why the store images run
[13:23] <Makere> but I can't get my own images to run
[13:24] <Makere> nor images from uec-images.ubuntu.com
[13:43] <Makere> ok
[13:43] <Makere> the problem I had was that it doesn't work if I bundle on cloud controller
[14:16] <smoser> Makere, i would doubt that its related to where you bundle
[14:17] <smoser> remember that when you do a run-instances after uploading, the first time it will have to copy from walrus to node, change format of image (adding a partition table and such), before running
[14:17] <smoser> that is a lot of IO and will be very slow for something large
[14:19] <smoser> you can debug a bit more by figuring out where your instance is going to run (euca_conf --list-nodes) and then looking at the node. top will show you some things. likely there is something in /var/log/eucalyptus or /var/lib/libvirt
[14:52] <Makere> smoser: well I waited for an half an hour, kvm doesn't run on the node
[14:53] <Makere> node logs don't have any errors
[14:53] <smoser> hm..
[14:54] <Makere> I have nc log upped somewhere
[14:55] <Makere> if you want I cna put it to pastebin
[14:55] <Makere> but personally I think to myself as case closed, and will not compile on the cloud controller anymore
[14:55] <Makere> bundle* not compile
[14:56] <Makere> it worked charmed after bundling on cluster controller
[14:56] <Makere> like a charm*
[14:56] <Makere> sorry, a bit tired
[14:57] <Makere> I have walrus and cloud controller on same machine
[14:57] <Makere> and cluster controller + storage controller on other two
[14:57] <Makere> plus nodes
[14:57] <smoser> well, for what its worht, i have a cloud (10.04 right now, but i've used 10.10) with just 2 systems
[14:57] <smoser> one is CC CLC and SC, one is just NC
[14:57] <smoser> and i do everything from the CC/CLC/SC node.
[14:58] <Makere> I think it might have something to do on cloud/walrus controller not having CC on same machine
[14:58] <smoser> it won't make any difference, but if you find the bundle and upload process to be a bit obtuse, you can use 'uec-publish-tarball' or 'uec-publish-image'
[14:59] <Makere> I did my own image with the publish-image
[14:59] <Makere> same thing as with publish-tarball on official images
[14:59] <smoser> ah. ok.
[14:59] <smoser> just wanted to make you aware that is there.
[14:59] <Makere> yea thanks
[14:59] <smoser> once you've uploaded, i seriously can't see a difference in where the bundle was done
[15:00] <smoser> after bundle, its already loaded into walrus, and the NC will do the get from walrus. no path there would be affected by where the 'bundle' command was run.
[15:00] <Makere> http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/i-still-can-only-run-instances-store-images same problem here
[15:01] <Makere> found the answer from there
[15:02] <Makere> although in the "answer" I got the guy seems to have run CLC CC SC and Walrus on same PC
[15:02] <Makere> ("Ok, so I really don't know" by seigie) in the middle
[15:03] <Makere> weird thing is that I/We reinstalled the cloud 4 times
[15:03] <Makere> and everytime same problem
[15:03] <Makere> with diff settings etc
[15:04] <Makere> ah well, just wanted too put a heads up if anyone gets same kind of problem
[15:04] <smoser> you get the errors like that in the logs ?
[15:05] <Makere> don't have the logs here now
[15:06] <smoser> well, the right thing to do is open an ubuntu bug
[15:06] <Makere> yea
[15:06] <smoser> so, go through the steps again
[15:06] <smoser> writing down what you do and your setup (CC/CLC and such)
[15:06] <smoser> see the failure
[15:06] <smoser> then run 'ubuntu-bug eucalyptus' on the system that has those ERROR messages in the logs
[15:07] <smoser> sorry to give youthe run-around, but in the end, that is what is most likely to get the problem solved for you.
[15:31] <TritoLux_> hello there, anybody?
[15:32] <TritoLux_> I am trying to setup a cloud test environment and I managed to get it to work, but it gives random network problems when multiple users run multiple instances. The Eucalyptus team told me that it is a UEC specific problem and I would need some help to troubleshoot. Is there anybody willing to help?
[16:23] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: can't promise anything, have you tried connecting via public or private ip? And are the instances really up and running? You can check that with euca-get-console-output
[16:25] <TritoLux_> hi there, yes everything seems to work fine, I can administer the instances via hybridfox with no problems, apparently.. but when a second user starts his own instance, then the other users loose the attached volumes from the SC and they even have to reboot their instance in orger to regain connectivity
[16:26] <TritoLux_> after rebooting the instances, then nobody can detach the previously attached volumes and I have to reboot the cloud to restore functionality, until the same problem occurs again
[16:26] <TritoLux_> thanks for replying btw
[16:30] <TritoLux_> I have been troubleshooting this problem with the Eucalyptus team, but after a couple of months they are still puzzled and they said that it is UEC specific
[16:31] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: sounds bad. I would recommend opening a bug about this in Launchpad against the eucalyptus package
[16:32] <TritoLux_> the Eucalyptus team suspects AoE to be the problem
[16:33] <TritoLux_> for instance, when I launch an instance, I get this error message in the livirt log: pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-e1000.bin"
[16:33] <TritoLux_> for instance, when I launch an instance, I get this error message in the libvirt log: pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-e1000.bin"
[16:33] <TritoLux_> I wonder if it is related
[16:34] <TritoLux_> I also removed the AppArmor security layer in order to see if it was causing the problem, but pretty much nothing has changed
[16:36] <TritoLux_> as a matter of fact, I was never able to have a stable cloud based on UEC
[16:39] <TritoLux_> thanks for your responses TeTeT, I will eventually shoot a bug in Launchpad, but if anybody else has any advices in the meanwhile that would great. I can provide you with all logs and configs of course
[16:41] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: I think the error is unrelated. it goes away when you add some kvm-pxe package
[16:41] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: btw are you on 10.04 LTS or on 10.10?
[16:41] <TritoLux_> I started with 10.04 LTS and I performed a dist-upgrade
[16:42] <TritoLux_> it is currently running with all latest available packages
[16:44] <TritoLux_> the environment is set with 2 machines, one running CLC, CC, SC, Walrus and the other one running the NC
[16:45] <TritoLux_> both have dual NIC's, the CLC uses a public NIC and the CC is installed on a private NIC
[16:46] <TritoLux_> eucalyptus.conf is set to run both priv and public traffic on the bridge configured on the non public interface
[16:47] <TritoLux_> the nic's are configured for multiclustering, even if it is running only one at the moment
[16:48] <TritoLux_> the eucalyptus guys had a look at the network config and they said that it is supposed to work fine
[16:52] <TritoLux_> however, because both public NIC and private NIC are configured with a static address, then avahi autoregistration failed during UEC installation and it cost me some troubles to arrange a properly registered node. Now the node registration seems fine, but I wonder if the initial failure might have caused more problems
[16:52] <TritoLux_> the network mode is MANAGED-NOVLAN
[16:53] <TritoLux_> I have no error messages in the logs, until the above problem occurs
[16:53] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: I register nodes from hand all the time and have not discovered your problem. But then I just do training and not some pre-production tests
[16:54] <TritoLux_> if you try to install a cloud where the CC is running on a private NIC with a static IP then you will reproduce above registration problem
[16:55] <TritoLux_> so to have a main IF on the public NIC and the nodes to be discovered on a private NIC, both with static IP's
[16:57] <TritoLux_> the UEC installation process allows you to choose a static IP on the main NIC, but the same question is not asked for the secondary NIC and it assumes DHCP on that one
[16:57] <TritoLux_> then autoregistration fails
[16:58] <TritoLux_> the above problems are preventing us to start our cloud business at the moment and switching to Debian is currently being taken into consideration to be honest
[17:04] <TritoLux_> basically, it seems that I cannot run more than a customer onto an apparently working cloud, otherwise the entire network gets messed up, as in connectivity getting lost, attached volumes becoming unaccessible, etc. rebooting the cloud seems the only solution to restore funzionality again.. for a single user, until a second one starts another instance.
[17:06] <TritoLux_> I have tried to run more instances from a single user and it seems to work fine. The problems occur mainly or only when a different user starts to interact with the cloud.
[17:09] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: not sure if the multi user scenario is well tested. I use it in the trainings, but this cloud only exists for a week
[17:10] <TritoLux_> I think that multiuser is essential to a cloud, otherwise we miss the point of having a cloud. But I think that the multi-nic scenario is even less tested.
[17:11] <TritoLux_> at least when you have both IF's with static IP addresses
[17:13] <TritoLux_> my idea is to have just the CLC facing the public and the rest of the cloud interacting through a private network so that the public cannot even reach the other nodes
[17:16] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: sound idea
[17:18] <TritoLux_> eheh, it might be a good idea, but I wasn't able to get it to work in practice so far, unfortunately
[17:18] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: I believe it's a scenario that should be supported
[17:19] <TritoLux_> I am quite sure it is supported indeed, but it hasn't worked for me so far
[17:19] <TritoLux_> and I dunno why
[17:21] <TritoLux_> as we speak, two more boxes are being setup for a debian testing environment which will be configured in the same way, so to see if it is really an UEC problem or not.. thing is that Debian alred
[17:22] <TeTeT> good luck with that
[17:22] <TritoLux_> as we speak, two more boxes are being setup for a debian testing environment which will be configured in the same way, so to see if it is really an UEC problem or not.. thing is that Debian already runs Eucalyptus 2.0
[17:22] <TeTeT> as does maverick
[17:22] <TritoLux_> and UEC is running 1.6.2
[17:22] <TritoLux_> Maverick is not the dist I have then
[17:23] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: hmm, you really should try it then, I believe
[17:23] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: it's not an LTS, so support will run out in 18 months time though
[17:23] <TritoLux_> I am running the LTS distribution
[17:24] <TeTeT> that's 10.04 LTS
[17:24] <TritoLux_> yes
[17:25] <TritoLux_> I thought that the LTS was more stable though, that's why my boss set it as a requirement
[17:25] <TritoLux_> or at least better tested
[17:27] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: it basically is, but with UEC it's still a pretty new product and big improvements are made with each release
[17:27] <TritoLux_> that's understandable
[17:27] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: the biggest step for 10.04 LTS in regards to UEC was IMO the neat installation via the CD
[17:28] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: I know there have been made all kind of tests for stability, but I doubt the multi user and multi nic scenario is one of them
[17:29] <TritoLux_> I think that the multiuser and multi nic scenario would be one of the most requested for production environments though
[17:32] <TritoLux_> if I remember correctly, the initial tests we run when we approved UEC were run on a single NIC and everything went pretty much ok, but when we had to go in production environment, then things changed of course and more requirements were set.. but UEC didn't work well anymore
[17:32] <TritoLux_> when do you think that Euca 2.0 will be available for LTS?
[17:33] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: not sure, unless there's a strong business case probably never. I don't see anyone putting resources into a backport
[17:34] <TritoLux_> auch, sorry what's the advantage of running LTS then?
[17:35] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: security updates for 5 years on the server. It's not about getting the latest software
[17:35] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: it's just my 2 cent, but I'd evaluate UEC on Maverick, upgrade that on a six month base and then go with the next LTS for long term production deployment
[17:36] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: but not sure if that meets your project specs
[17:36] <TritoLux_> mmh.. I thought it was both
[17:36] <TritoLux_> that's a good suggestion indeed
[17:37] <TritoLux_> thanks for your help, I will have to discuss this with my colleagues and better explain the scenario
[17:38] <TritoLux_> there might have been misunderstandings on the LTS concepts
[17:38] <TeTeT> TritoLux_: good luck, couldn't provide much though
[17:39] <TritoLux_> I appreciate your response anyway, thanks for your effort nevertheless
[17:39] <TritoLux_> it's not a simple issue anyway
[17:40] <TeTeT> agreed
[17:41] <TritoLux_> I'll go for a break now, speak you soon maybe
[17:41] <TritoLux_> thanks again
[17:41] <TeTeT> will be off soon, bye
[17:42] <TritoLux_> bye bye
[19:26] <smoser> erichammond, you still unable to find anyway to update ami pages, right?
[19:27] <smoser> it sure seems like they're just in flux, but i opened a ticket and reopened several times.  iwas told that to edit a page i should "submit an ami" and mention that it is an update to an existing page in the body.
[19:37] <kiall> anyone had any luck using the EC2 PHP SDK with euca/UEC?
[21:18] <erichammond> smoser: I guess I've given up on Amazon's AMI pages since I haven't updated them in forever.
[21:18] <smoser> i'm somewhat peeved at them over it.
[21:18] <erichammond> smoser: I guess I should put in one more update that just says "this AMI has been superceded by the new recommended official Ubuntu AMIs..."
[21:18] <smoser> i recently made an effort on them, to move out of the canonical account (the one that owns our images) to another
[21:18] <smoser> so that people who updated those dont have to know credentials that could cause issues.
[21:19] <smoser> but now, i can't even update the ones we have
[21:23] <erichammond> :(
[21:24] <smoser> i really think that they're probably just in transition. visually there are changes.
[21:25] <smoser> but there is no external announcemnt of such a thing, and its been going on for the better part of a month
[21:32] <kiall> humm, smoser think I just discovered a bug in the UEC API .. Might be normal tho! You know sec group names on describe instances come back as "group" while on run_instances come back as "<uec_username>_group" ..
[21:33] <kiall> that the way EC2 does it? (I havent used their API)
[21:34] <smoser> what is uec_username ?
[21:34] <kiall> the username you use to login to the CLC web UI
[21:35] <smoser> i think its probably a bug.
[21:35] <kiall> so desc instances might return "default" while run will return "admin_default" when using the admin account ...
[21:35] <kiall> crap .. time to go digging again ;)
[21:36] <smoser> some things are different with admin
[21:36] <kiall> Also .. the only way I've gotton euca to build is on a PPA with updates turned off .. is there some trick to built it after you do a "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[21:36] <kiall> Well, im not using the admin user .. just thought it was a good example ;)
[21:38] <smoser> if it fails to build from source, then please open a bug
[21:38] <smoser> and you're saying the API lists the user name ?
[21:39] <kiall> yes - the group name returned (assuming group = "app" and username = "kiall") by describe is "app" while run instance returns "kiall_app"
[21:53] <smoser> kiall, i'd have to look at it more, but i've never noticed differing output in the utility
[21:53] <smoser> in euca2ools when working with ec2 verusus uec
[21:53] <smoser> so i'd expect that its not different from what comes back from the api
[21:53] <smoser> but i dont use security groups much
[21:53] <kiall> I'll dig in a little more and look at the raw output rather than what the PHP EC2 SDK is giving me .. possibly a bug elsewhere
[21:59] <kiall> Yup - The euca API is def handles group names differently ..
[22:02] <TritoLux_> hello there, I would like to upgrade 10.04LTS to 10.10, which means also a major upgrade from Eucalyptus 1.6.2 to 2.0.. is there any particular step to be concerned of? any known problems? would the existing cloud keep all volumes, credentials and configurations? thanks in advance for your answers
[22:02] <smoser> kiall, thanks. please do open a bug against eucalyptus
[22:03] <kiall> just getting it together now
[22:03] <smoser> again, using 'ubuntu-bug eucalyptus'
[22:03] <kiall> humm?
[22:03] <smoser> if you use 'ubuntu-bug eucalyptus' on the system, then it will put some info in the bug about what versions you're using
[22:03] <smoser> it will also collect logs if you allow it
[22:04] <smoser> thats why i suggested you do that on the machine with the Errors earlier (regariding your fialure to leave 'pending')
[22:04] <smoser> i've got to run.
[22:04] <kiall> Ah that wasnt me ;)
[22:04] <smoser> i think it was
[22:04] <kiall> Nope - last thing we talked about was hairpin NAT
[22:05] <smoser> hm.. so it was. i confused you with Makere
[22:05] <smoser> anyway.
[22:05] <smoser> same deal goes for you :)
[22:05] <smoser> use ubuntu-bug eucalyptus , that collects some system info
[22:06] <kiall> I'll see if that works over SSH to the server .. dont have it installed locally..
[22:06] <kiall> thanks ...