[00:00] <k1l> mixxit: can you choose an older kernel in the grub menu under advanced boot settings?
[00:00] <mixxit> yep
[00:00] <mixxit> .30
[00:00] <krizoek> is there a place where in can recommend packages to ubuntu?
[00:00] <k1l> does it work? with or without nomodeset?
[00:01] <krizoek> *where i can
[00:01] <mixxit> trying now
[00:01] <mixxit> not looking good
 i  apt-get update, and upgrade, then restarted, ever since no matter what options i try, my little server refuses to boot from my install. It gets past post, tries to boot fails and loads grub
[00:02] <k1l> krizoek: file a bug. or even better do the packaging and become a motu :)
[00:02] <mixxit> this is on 4.4.0-31
[00:02] <k1l> !motu | krizoek
[00:03] <krizoek> ok, ty
[00:03] <Rowanook> is there a command in GRUB to list all drives/logical volumes,  then a command to try to boot from one?
[00:03] <k1l> mixxit: since i dont have that hardware i can only tell what others did with the same hardware. http://askubuntu.com/a/841463/31260
[00:04] <mixxit> ty
[00:04] <masterlinux_> !grub
[00:04] <mixxit> i need to get in and install the drivers but its not letting me
[00:04] <mixxit> its late and i think this might be one of those epic struggles
[00:05] <mixxit> so i will look at it later thanks anyway guys
[00:05] <k1l> you could try to chroot into it from a usb live system and install the driver
[00:05] <k1l> but i dont know why its not working with nomodeset like other report it should work
[00:05] <mixxit> ok that sounds good
[00:06] <mixxit> well i just instabooted into live cd with nomodeset
[00:07] <mixxit> whats the driver?
[00:07] <mixxit> i usually use the graphical tool
[00:07] <mixxit> apt-get install apt-get install nvidia-367?
[00:08] <k1l> chrooted into the system?
[00:08] <mixxit> woops duped that a little, its late forgive me :-)
[00:08] <mixxit> yessir
[00:08] <k1l> yes, that is the latest on ubuntu
[00:08] <k1l> 'ubuntu 16.04
[00:09] <mixxit> it has no network
[00:09] <mixxit> :(
[00:09] <mixxit> in chroot i mean
[00:09] <k1l> yeah, you need to copy something for network, wiat
[00:10] <mixxit> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:11] <k1l> sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf     <-- before starting the chroot
[00:11] <mixxit> got it resolv.conf
[00:11] <mixxit> oh i just editted it
[00:11] <k1l> there are several ways to get that working :)
[00:12] <mixxit> off she goes
[00:12] <mixxit> oh man so many errors
[00:13] <mixxit> pastebin.com/CazhqWum
[00:15] <StupidByDefault> hy all
[00:15] <lafleurdubien> Does anyone on here have experience with customizing (adding packages to) a Live CD iso?
[00:16] <k1l> mixxit: looks like your chroot setup is not working?
[00:16] <mixxit> working on mounting them now
[00:16] <StupidByDefault> can someone please help me with ubuntu lts and gnome?
[00:17] <Ben64> StupidByDefault: you have to ask a question first
[00:17] <lafleurdubien> StupidByDefault: whats the issue?
[00:17] <mixxit> k1l, i think ill be good from here, thanks man
[00:17] <mixxit> best sleep if this doesnt work but i hope it will be ok
[00:17] <k1l> mixxit: crossing fingers
[00:17] <mixxit> cya thanks!
[00:17] <lafleurdubien> Is there a way to install packages running a Live USB session and have them persist after reboot?
[00:19] <Ben64> !persistence | lafleurdubien
[00:19] <StupidByDefault> well... i dont know my q yet.. i got fresh install of ubuntu.. and.. i am missing dark row in upper side of screen.. i hear ubuntu had a lot of changes.. but.. i would very much like to use gnome extensions .. currently is no gnome installed on my pc?
[00:20] <bazhang> StupidByDefault, first install gnome-shell
[00:20] <masterlinux_> lafleurdubien: i usually just create a system image with the packages i want
[00:20] <StupidByDefault> how do i find it?
[00:20] <bazhang> StupidByDefault, then you can go to the gnome extensions site and add some
[00:21] <bazhang> sudo apt install gnome-shell StupidByDefault
[00:21] <masterlinux_> StupidByDefault: https://launchpad.net/systemback
[00:22] <masterlinux_> StupidByDefault: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-VdLJX_LwU
[00:22] <k1l> StupidByDefault: the standard desktop on ubuntu is unity. its not the gnome-shell, but its own shell working on the gnome base. so if you want the gnome-shell you need to install that and can switch to that on the login screen.
[00:23] <lafleurdubien> StupidByDefault - so I can use systemback to create an ISO of an existing installation and then just use that to create the bootable iso?
[00:23] <bazhang> masterlinux_, why are you posting youtube links here
[00:23] <Stef_R> unity is pretty meh
[00:23] <k1l> lafleurdubien: its called persistence setup of the usb live system. the ubuntu usb creator got a setting for that
[00:23] <lafleurdubien> bazhang - masterlinux_ was helping me out with my question
[00:23] <bazhang> masterlinux_, he wants gnome-shell, no need for youtube to get that
[00:24] <StupidByDefault> thank u people
[00:24] <StupidByDefault> lets see if i done that right..
[00:24] <masterlinux_> ok
[00:24] <k1l> lafleurdubien: but keep in mind that the space is limited on that system. its not a real install
[00:28] <lafleurdubien> what about using systemback to create an iso of an existing installation and then install that on a USB drive?
[00:28] <R063R1> HOW DO I DISABLE GUEST ACCOUNT IF IT NOT SHOING UP UNDER USERS
[00:29] <bazhang> R063R1, lose the caps
[00:29] <R063R1> one now an i get an answer
[00:31] <R063R1> how do i disable guest account or put a passworg on it if i notshowing up under uses
[00:31] <R063R1> it, users
[00:32] <pragmatist1> Hello, my system won't shutdown or suspend properly. The screen goes black, with my laptop backlight still on, keyboard light still on and just hangs there. Any suggestions?
[00:32] <masterlinux_> R063R1: http://www.howtogeek.com/117994/how-to-disable-ubuntus-guest-session-account/
[00:32] <pragmatist1> Running latest LTS
[00:33] <masterlinux_> pragmatist1: is your system up to date? updated?
[00:34] <pragmatist1> Yes, just installed it, brand new laptop XPS 15 9560
[00:34] <OerHeks> development of systemback is suspended https://launchpad.net/~nemh/+archive/ubuntu/systemback
[00:35] <pragmatist1> tried doing shutdown -r now from a tty to see if it shows anything. Nothing
[00:35] <pragmatist1> just goes to a black screen with a cursor: _ in the top left hand corner
[00:35] <pragmatist1> and stays that way
[00:35] <bunchies> any help connecting to do-droplet vpn via openvpn on w10?
[00:36] <wedgie> bunchies: not sure any of that has anything to do with ubuntu
[00:36] <Ben64> bunchies: how would that possibly be on topic here in #ubuntu
[00:36] <bunchies> configured on ubuntu
[00:37] <bunchies> only trying to connect via windows : Wed Feb 08 19:32:32 2017 read UDP: Connection reset by peer (WSAECONNRESET) (code=10054)
[00:37] <bunchies> Wed Feb 08 19:33:02 2017 TLS Error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur within 60 seconds (check your network connectivity)
[00:37] <bunchies> Wed Feb 08 19:33:02 2017 TLS Error: TLS handshake failed
[00:38] <bazhang> bunchies, this is for what version of ubuntu, and why mention windows ten
[00:38] <bunchies> forwarded 1194 udp
[00:38] <bazhang> bunchies, try ##windows for windows issues
[00:39] <bunchies> ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 again only connecting from windows 10
[00:40] <masterlinux_> bunchies: try ##networking might help u there
[00:45] <in3rti4> Hi everyone! I have a dual boot notebook with ubuntu, but the last days I have a problem: the HD fulls up but I don't do anything. I don't download files or programs. Any idea?
[00:46] <k1l> in3rti4: maybe its errormessages filling up /var/log ?
[00:47] <in3rti4> what do u mean sir?
[00:47] <schultza> whats the best way to update trusty to current LTS without needing to backup my data (i dontk now if it's a seperate partition).. and if it is.. and I do disk, hwo do I make sure my data comes back right?
[00:48] <k1l> schultza: no backup means no important data :) even your hdd can fail every time without upgrading
[00:49] <k1l> in3rti4: that was a guess about what could be filling your disk. i dont know what you do or what the issue is. so look at /var/log how big that folder is
[00:49] <schultza> i know that i really need to start backups.. what would the procedure be if my data was partitioned off?
[00:50] <k1l> schultza: in best case the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 will work and will not eat your data. but this is the best case szenario
[00:50] <in3rti4> k1l: it's only 15 mb, thank's for the trying anyway...
[00:50] <k1l> in3rti4: use "baobab" to see what is using the diskspace
[00:51] <schultza> k1l: should i git backup my data until i  finished my upgrade? and do you know if my radeon 4650 is supported in the new kernels?
[00:52] <jason__> ......
[00:52] <k1l> schultza: when the cards are not supported by amd anymore (which i guess for that older cards) then there is the free open source driver. that should be working.
[00:52] <schultza> not for steam.. i cant get steam to work without the 3d support
[00:53] <schultza> i have another machine with an older card and steam is not working
[00:54] <OerHeks> pretty old, radeon 4650
[00:54] <k1l> i dont know about steam and dedicated video cards and their drivers.
[00:54] <schultza> oh crap... one partition!?
[00:54] <schultza> oh, thats ntfs
[00:54] <schultza> nope.. .same on linux
[00:55] <schultza> guess i need to backup first...
[00:55] <k1l> ntfs? i dont think that is a ubuntu partition
[00:56] <schultza> steam uses drivers loaded by the kernel or hot loaded through that plugin driver code.
[00:57] <GeekOfCairo> hi there what's goin on
[00:57] <schultza> i need to start partitioning and backups.. sigh
[00:57] <connorgreig> just switched to using Ubuntu full time instead of Windows
[00:57] <schultza> connorgreig: congrats.. welcome to the community.
[00:58] <connorgreig> schultza: thanks
[00:58] <GeekOfCairo> wise decision :D
[00:58] <connorgreig> I know right
[01:04] <erm3nda> connorgreig, doing it fulltime is the only way to force learning the right way
[01:04] <meximelt> hello
[01:04] <erm3nda> i did that past time and now i wont regret to W
[01:04] <schultza> to W?
[01:05] <erm3nda> w10 or whatever other windowz u can remember
[01:05] <schultza> Ah
[01:05] <erm3nda> w7 was a good thing, just to mention
[01:06] <schultza> wXP and w7 where both good things... but locking it down in w8+ was horrible.
[01:06] <erm3nda> xp was a revolution in his field, but w7 was much better
[01:06] <glitchd> w8 lmmfao
[01:06] <bazhang> !ot | erm3nda
[01:06] <erm3nda> what?
[01:06] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support
[01:06] <schultza> They needed that user-level security in vista+, then the kernel improvement in 7.
[01:07] <OerHeks> please no flamewar, this is technical support only
[01:07] <schultza> Got it.
[01:07] <bazhang> erm3nda, this is not a random chat channel,
[01:07] <erm3nda> we are not flamewar.. just commenting
[01:07] <meximelt> I'm looking for some guidance with networking, could anyone offer some tips?
[01:07] <glitchd> can ask a xubuntu question in here?
[01:07] <glitchd> *can i
[01:07] <erm3nda> no you cant
[01:07] <schultza> keep it on the same network in netmask? :)
[01:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for commentary erm3nda
[01:07] <k1l> glitchd: yes, but the guys in #xubuntu might know more specifcs
[01:07] <k1l> erm3nda: stop that
[01:07] <schultza> is this an ubuntu related networking question?
[01:08] <glitchd> k1l, yea but no one ever answers in there, so i tend to just not go there anymore
[01:08] <glitchd> erm3nda, its past your bedtime.
[01:08] <erm3nda> fuk you man
[01:08] <schultza> whoa, glitchd
[01:08] <glitchd> yea thats real nice
[01:08] <meximelt> schultza: you tell me, I have a docker app set up in virtualbox and I need to be able to access it from the internet
[01:08] <meximelt> on ubuntu
[01:08] <glitchd> thx bazhang
[01:09] <glitchd> i have a question regarding the lock screen in 16.04.1
[01:09] <schultza> meximelt: that sounds more like a virtualbox question than an ubuntu question, btw. but you have two options in vbox, essentially change networking modes (NAT -> Bridged) or port forward the port you need to.
[01:10] <glitchd> why would crtl+alt+L activate a different lock screen than clicking lock from the power menu?
[01:10] <glitchd> when that key combo is suppose to be a shortcut to the menu item lock
[01:10] <meximelt> okay, I set it to bridged, I can access the server but inside ubuntu on vb I can't access the internet
[01:11] <glitchd> meximelt, i would set the adapter to nat instead of bridged, works for me everytime
[01:11] <wedgie> glitchd: in which DE? In unity, for me ctrl+alt+l, windows+l, and the menu all do the same thing
[01:12] <glitchd> wedgie, im using ubuntu 16.04.1, with xubuntu-desktop installed.
[01:12] <meximelt> Alright, I'll try to use NAT with port forwarding, I could not get access to the server when I had it configured it that way, but maybe I just missed a step
[01:13] <glitchd> wedgie, and if i press the key combo for lock, it uses xscreensaver(which i want), but if i use the menu item lock from the power menu it activates lightlocker screen lock
[01:13] <k1l> glitchd: could be its a different instance fetching the shortcut. xubuntu uses a different lockscreen than lightdm and unity do, iirc.
[01:13] <wedgie> meximelt: if you changed to bridged you'll likely have to change the network configuration of th guest
[01:13] <k1l> lockscreen and screensaver that is.
[01:13] <wedgie> meximelt: because it will no longer be on whatever the NAT network was. So it'll need a new IP and default gateway
[01:13] <glitchd> k1l, i even tried to remove and purge lightlocker but it still persists
[01:14] <k1l> glitchd: did you reboot since that remove?
[01:14] <erm3nda> really?
[01:14] <glitchd> k1l, its just super weird because the menu item has the key combo next to it, and if i use the key combo it works how i want, but not if i use the menu item. and yes i have rebooted since and it was still the same
[01:15] <meximelt> wedgie: thanks, I'll look into that.
[01:15] <k1l> glitchd: i guess the keykombo is fetched by the *dm and so its the old lightdm-unity setting and not the xubuntu setting
[01:15] <erm3nda> glitchd, ur nobody to tell me what yo do with my time or my bed. that's why i told you that
[01:15] <erm3nda> btw, bazhang feel free to abuse powers
[01:15] <k1l> erm3nda: stop that drama asap
[01:16] <erm3nda> is not drama, its explanation
[01:16] <glitchd> erm3nda, you just dont know when to quit. grow up kid.
[01:16] <glitchd> get blocked.
[01:16] <erm3nda> you still telling me things you don't have to
[01:16] <k1l> !guidelines | erm3nda
[01:16] <erm3nda> maybe youre the kid...
[01:16] <k1l> glitchd: let it go
[01:17] <glitchd> k1l, already did.
[01:17] <erm3nda> users was talking offtopic when i joined
[01:17] <erm3nda> but only me was warned
[01:17] <erm3nda> seems fair
[01:17] <glitchd> k1l, hes blocked now so it no problem anymore
[01:17] <erm3nda> tse... /exit
[01:17] <glitchd> k1l, hes probably gonna switch names and try to join again lol
[01:18] <glitchd> k1l, but anyways back to the question at hand..
[01:19] <glitchd> k1l, is there any way to change what command the menu item "lock" serves? any config file i can edit?
[01:22] <sohumYOWASSUP> hi
[01:22] <k1l> glitchd: i dont know where xfce handles that
[01:22] <sohumYOWASSUP> hi
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> hi
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> hi
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> jhi
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> ijhi
[01:23] <glitchd> k1l, hmm, well i guess i gotta do some digging then
[01:23] <glitchd> k1l, thx anyways
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> hi??
[01:23] <glitchd> no
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> ?
[01:23] <sohumYOWASSUP> ughhhh
[01:28] <fizikz> hello. i updated from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. always using gnome2/classic/flashback/metacity.  now after updating, when i move windows around there is an invisible buffer around them that makes aligning difficult.
[01:29] <fizikz> eg in this image the wireframe shows where the invisible borders are at: http://i.imgur.com/k6zDtpG.png
[01:29] <fizikz> this happens with "reduced-resources" enabled (via dconf editor: org/gnome/metacity), and not if it's disabled
[01:29] <fizikz> how can i get the wireframe to be the size of the underlying window again, as usual?
[01:30] <glitchd> k1l, welp im gonna leave this for another day, thank you for the help anways.
[01:30] <wedgie> fizikz: don't know the answer to your question, but if you like gnome2 then the Mate desktop is an option
[01:31] <fizikz> if i were to do a clean install, i would get mate, yes. but for now i just went with an upgrade
[01:31] <wedgie> can still install the mate desktop
[01:31] <fizikz> also, i've been using gnome2 with ubuntu since a long time and there was no issue until this last upgrade
[01:34] <dna113p> Hello, I have a dual boot system with Windows(on hd 1) Ubuntu (on partition 1 of hd 2). I'm installing mac os on partition 2 of hd2. Does anyone know if this Will this mess up my current setup with grub as my bootloader?
[01:39] <wedgie> dna113p: i'd say probably, but you should be able to fix it after the fact. I don't have any experience with installing osx, though, so i couldn't say for sure
[01:39] <villain> anyone have experience troubleshooting the predictive device renaming with systemd?
[01:40] <villain> 4 eth ports on a quad card stop functioning after being renamed
[01:40] <villain> if i disable the renaming, everything works fine
[01:56] <xrandr_laptop> Is there a way to get ubuntu and/or firefox to include google fonts usage?
[01:57] <disynthetic> dfi
[01:57] <disynthetic> Hello world.
[02:01] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, thoughts?
[02:16] <ztag100> I'm encountering a strange graphical problem on my laptop/tablet where the unity greeter is scaled wrong,but when I signin to Ubuntu it seems to resolve to a normal scale. Any ideas what could be wrong? I couldn't google any promising answers
[02:19] <Countess_Bathory> I don't see that as a issue as all my tablets do that
[02:21] <ztag100> Also, while testing out i3, it also had problems with the scaling...
[02:22] <Bashing-om> ztag100: At the greeter screen th GUI driver has not been loaded - using grub's driver. You can set grub's resolution in the /etc/default/grub file .
[02:28] <monokrome> Hey! Does anyone know how to get the login manager to get me into my custom .xsession instead of the default WM? Doesn't seem like there's an option for this
[02:30] <monokrome> It seems like if I `sudo apt-get install dwm` then an option for DWM shows up, but there's no option for my xsession? O_o
[02:35] <monokrome> There are some screenshots floating around that have a "User Defined Session" option, but I'm not sure how to get that to show u.
[02:44] <monokrome> aha! Looks like it looks for ~/.xsessionrc but *not* ~/.xsession
[02:45] <monokrome> uh... Maybe not. :/
[02:48] <hhee> guysm, which hotkey app in ubuntu can show or lunch needed program? for example, i pressed hotkeys, and firefox focused, or launch and focused.
[02:50] <smellsLikeGoatSp> Hi everyone, if I go to setting -> displays I get a blank window with "could not get screen information" I run 16.04 on my laptop.
[03:33] <amazoniantoad> Anyone know if the oculus rift is supported?
[03:55] <horizon_> #kendy
[04:10] <horizon_> hwllo
[04:10] <horizon_> jhdf
[04:11] <xrandr> There's a 17.04 version of ubuntu?
[04:11] <horizon_> HELLO
[04:12] <horizon_> rH
[04:12] <xrandr> horizon_, HI!
[04:13] <horizon_> #xrandr helo
[04:13] <reisio> xrandr: 17 for 2017, 04 for april
[04:13] <reisio> it is not april
[04:13] <reisio> there's probably a more-broken-even-than-a-usual-ubuntu-release alpha somewhere, though
[04:13] <horizon_> #xrandr
[04:14] <horizon_> #horizon_
[04:16] <Sam____> sam9
[04:19] <sam9> Hello
[04:21] <reisio> hi sam
[04:23] <horizon____> #vmiklos
[04:23] <sam9> I am currently using Ubuntu 16.04 in Azure cloud setup. I need to setup an SFTP server, which i have been able to do. the last config item I need to do is have 2 users that would be able to access the SFTP directory. One with Read only access and the other user with read write. Can this be accomplished with just chmod's?
[04:25] <root1_> hi
[04:26] <reisio> hi root
[04:27] <reisio> sam9: might want to look into rssh
[04:28] <sam9> reisio, thanks i will look into that
[04:28] <uxfi> hi reisio
[04:29] <fizikz> hello. i updated from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. always using gnome2/classic/flashback/metacity.  now after updating, when i move windows around there is an invisible buffer around them that makes aligning difficult.
[04:29] <Guest1009> hello
[04:29] <fizikz> eg in this image the wireframe shows where the invisible borders are at: http://i.imgur.com/k6zDtpG.png
[04:30] <Guest1009> Do me a solid, are these messages coming through OK?
[04:30] <reisio> fizikz: might be just down to your GTK+ theme, or it might be something more nefarious, like GTK+3 itself
[04:30] <reisio> fizikz: theme, window manager, etc.
[04:31] <fizikz> reisio: what should i check?
[04:31] <fizikz> i'm using the same theme and wm as before the upgrade
[04:31] <reisio> fizikz: what theme & wm?
[04:32] <fizikz> theme is the default ambiance
[04:32] <sam9> reisio: I currently have ssh configured correctly. and both users are forced into the same directory. i just want the two users to have different rights on the directory, Is that doable in RSSH?
[04:33] <fizikz> window manager is metacity?
[04:33] <reisio> fizikz: probably not
[04:33] <reisio> sam9: you might want ACLs
[04:33] <reisio> setfacl, etc.
[04:34] <reisio> why do you want two users, though?
[04:34] <snkcld> how exactly is avahi preventing my "blah.local" from resolving as i have configured it in dnsmasq?
[04:34] <snkcld> my /etc/resolv.conf points to my dnsmasq install properly... so how is avahi intercepting that?
[04:34] <Biosphere_50> create a group for the second user
[04:35] <sam9> reisio: user1 can read, write and user2 is read only.
[04:35] <Biosphere_50> and change the group permissions
[04:35] <reisio> snkcld: dunno, but nobody has ever gotten a use out of avahi in the history of time
[04:35] <reisio> sam9: yes but why
[04:35] <snkcld> yea its incredibly annoying
[04:35] <snkcld> because i want to use "blah.local" etc
[04:35] <snkcld> but its SO annoying that its doing that. took me forever to find out that thats whats happening
[04:35] <Biosphere_50> sam9: add the user2 to group permissions and change the directory group permissions
[04:36] <Quality_Beef> hi
[04:36] <Quality_Beef> hello
[04:36]  * uxfi eats Quality_Beef
[04:36] <Quality_Beef> Nooooo
[04:36] <uxfi> mmmm
[04:36] <Quality_Beef> so you like prime rib
[04:36] <uxfi> sure
[04:37] <Quality_Beef> have some more lad
[04:37] <uxfi> ty
[04:37] <Quality_Beef> Who else is hungry?
[04:37] <sam9> reisio: because I want oneUser to be able to update the files on a nightly bases. Second user cannot update those files at all, they just need to download them.
[04:37] <reisio> sam9: okay, but /why/ :p
[04:38] <reisio> snkcld: that's how macOS does it, foo.local
[04:38] <reisio> and it is of /absolutely no use whatsoever/ on that OS, too
[04:38] <sam9> reisio: what is the other option? both have same options?
[04:39] <reisio> I want to know what makes you think this is the solution to something :P
[04:40] <Biosphere_50> sam9: you can add user2 to a group called whatever and change the directory permissions to readonly for group users and change the group on the directory to whatever
[04:41] <gardenia> qa
[04:41] <reisio> noqa
[04:42] <garden_> sup?
[04:42] <sam9> Biosphere_50: That would have 2 groups with different permissions?
[04:42] <garden_> How do I register to services?
[04:42] <garden_> What's the code?
[04:42] <Biosphere_50> sam9: make the user1 owner of the directory
[04:42] <Biosphere_50> since user1 would be the read and write
[04:42] <Biosphere_50> only need one group for user2
[04:43] <sam9> Biosphere_50: yes i tried that. And if i made someone else the owner then the user was no longer able to log in sftp
[04:43] <garden_> @Biosphese_50 : How do I register with this nick?
[04:43] <garden_> What's the code/command?
[04:43] <garden_> To have a password.
[04:44] <Biosphere_50> sam9: you want same directory usage for two users
[04:44] <Biosphere_50> leaver your users in their home directory and link the common directory
[04:44] <Biosphere_50> you want them to have access to
[04:44] <sam9> Biosphere_50: Yes, same directory
[04:44] <JairunCaloth> garden_: '/msg nickserv help' should have the info you're looking for.
[04:44] <uxfi> hi JairunCaloth
[04:44] <JairunCaloth> Hello :)
[04:44] <garden_> @Jairun thanks
[04:50] <Quality_Beef> hello friendly fellowa
[04:51] <Quality_Beef> fellows*
[04:52] <fizikz> @reisio i think my wm is metacity
[04:53] <fizikz> in dconf editor: org/gnome/metacity i also have compositing manager disabled, and reduced-resources enabled
[04:54] <fizikz> if reduced-resources is disabled, the window border issue disappears
[04:54] <reisio> fizikz: gj
[04:54] <fizikz> if i re-enable reduced-resources it reappears :P
[04:56] <fizikz> i always had it enabled since i don't want animations, prefer wireframe when moving windows, and want the most low-resource, responsive options possible
[04:59] <Biosphere_50> i3 is way better for that
[04:59] <Biosphere_50> has a learning curve though
[04:59] <Biosphere_50> can tailored
[04:59] <Biosphere_50> be
[05:00] <Quality_Beef> what is i3
[05:02] <Biosphere_50> window manager
[05:02] <Biosphere_50> tiling manager
[05:03] <Biosphere_50> super lightweight
[05:04] <Quality_Beef> ok
[05:04] <Biosphere_50> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1I63wGcvU4
[05:05] <JairunCaloth> I would probably really enjoy a tiling window manager, but I haven't bothered to make myself really try it yet.
[05:05] <reisio> wmii has a lower curve
[05:05] <reisio> ...this guy can't even say half of the name 'i3'
[05:06] <Biosphere_50> gets addictive
[05:06] <Biosphere_50> you can have a window that floats wherever you want
[05:06] <JairunCaloth> I should also probably switch to tmux and zshell, but the muscle memory is real.
[05:06] <Biosphere_50> borderless windows
[05:06] <Biosphere_50> menulesss
[05:07] <Quality_Beef> wathing vid now
[05:07] <Biosphere_50> can controll evertything with the keyboard pretty much so its nice when you during stuff to be able to not use the mouse
[05:07] <reisio> no, don't switch to zsh :p
[05:07] <Biosphere_50> the d menu is my favorite feature
[05:07] <reisio> look at its config file syntax first
[05:07] <reisio> then you'll realize it's to be avoided
[05:08] <Biosphere_50> the best part of i3 is when you have monitor multiples 3+ you can move windows easily to the corresponding screen
[05:08] <Quality_Beef> i like using my mouse lad
[05:09] <fizikz> wow interesting window manager options. but how well do they integrate with ubuntu? long ago i tried different desktop environments to find something lighter than gnome3 but they were often glitchy
[05:09] <Biosphere_50> well i3 isnt for you
[05:09] <Quality_Beef> I have 1 monitor lad
[05:09] <reisio> fizikz: as well as you want
[05:09] <Quality_Beef> interesting though
[05:10] <fizikz> i was thinking of trying mate if i can't figure out this window border issue
[05:10] <JairunCaloth> I've been using XFCE for years now.
[05:10] <fizikz> but installing another desktop environment and all those dependencies... prefer to avoid if i can find a simple solution for this weird bug
[05:10] <Biosphere_50> xfce is nice
[05:10] <Quality_Beef> who wants to play some csgo
[05:10] <Biosphere_50> i3 is very basic
[05:10] <reisio> fizikz: thought you had already?
[05:10] <Biosphere_50> csgo
[05:11] <fizikz> yeah xfce seemed decent. i just got used to gnome tho
[05:11] <Biosphere_50> i love the kde4 plasma but its resource hog
[05:11] <reisio> Xfce is more like GNOME 2 than GNOME 3 is
[05:11] <fizikz> not really. the window border issue goes away if i disable reduced-resources, but i don't want to do that
[05:11] <Biosphere_50> i been using xubuntu for a while now
[05:11] <Biosphere_50> lubuntu isn't bad either
[05:12] <fizikz> i was impressed by ubuntu mate when i tried a live usb. seems to be fairly light, but still very familiar
[05:14] <fizikz> btw, what's the proper way of installing the mate desktop environment in ubuntu?
[05:14] <CrazyTux> which one is lighter between Xubuntu and Mate?
[05:14] <fizikz> sudo apt-get install mate ? or mate-core ? or mate-desktop-environment ?
[05:15] <cfhowlett> fizikz, should be the latter
[05:15] <reisio> fizikz: you could try using compiz instead of metacity
[05:15] <Biosphere_50> compton available also
[05:16] <reisio> does mate have a compositing window manager, though?
[05:16] <CrazyTux> hello
[05:16] <reisio> fizikz: oh if you _disable_ _reduced_
[05:16] <reisio> CrazyTux: ohai
[05:16] <CrazyTux> hi
[05:16] <fizikz> cfhowlett: some websites mention "sudo apt install mate-core mate-desktop-environment" while others say just mate-core OR mate-desktop-environment, etc
[05:17] <fizikz> reisio: isn't compiz more resource intensive?
[05:17] <CrazyTux> which one is lighter between Xubuntu and Mate?
[05:17] <reisio> I'd go with 'mate-desktop', but the real trick is purging gnome
[05:17] <reisio> Xfce is lighter than MATE
[05:17] <CrazyTux> ok
[05:17] <reisio> (and better :p)
[05:17] <CrazyTux> better? how?
[05:17] <fizikz> mhh i wouldn't want to purge gnome just in case it doesn't work out with the other one
[05:18] <cfhowlett> fizikz, apt install -s mate-core seems to show that's the one you want.
[05:18] <reisio> fizikz: right, it's when you want to
[05:18] <gde33> on lubuntu, when I launch firefox, it takes a good bit of time for it to show up (netbook) but there is no visual indication it is working.
[05:18] <gartral> ok all, I have a slightly irritating issue, I have an openvpn server on a host that has a very very fast connection (1.5gbps), client running on a connection that's only ~400kbps, I don't see a difference with tunnel on vs tunnel off, any ideas?
[05:18] <gartral> gde33: does said netbook have a HDD indicator?
[05:19] <reisio> gde33: because openbox is a pretty simple window manager
[05:19] <gde33> gartral: ill have a closer look
[05:19] <gde33> the problem is thta the touchpad tapping isn't guranteed to work
[05:20] <gde33> so sometimes I sit there waiting but nothing happens after 20 sec
[05:21] <gde33> gartral: yes! there is a hd led hidden half under it :)
[05:21] <gartral> gde33: i'm not sure about openbox... does CTRL+ALT+T bring up a terminal?
[05:21] <gde33> gartral: sure
[05:21] <reisio> gde33: sounds like you should get more ram, or another computer, or both
[05:22] <gartral> gde33: FF is a fairly large program to load into ram, after clicking it check the HDD indicator, it should stay solidly on for a moment while the program loads
[05:22] <gde33> reisio: then I would cry if I drop it :P
[05:22] <reisio> nope
[05:22] <reisio> care less, it makes all things easier :p
[05:22] <gde33> gartral: exactly, very good idea. Thanks
[05:22] <reisio> also you can get a new laptop for like $150
[05:22] <gde33> reisio: for browsing text websites it is fine
[05:22] <reisio> don't need firefox for that
[05:23] <gartral> gde33: may I make a suggestion for a very nice upgrade for you?
[05:24] <gde33> gartral: always
[05:25] <gartral> gde33: see your messages
[05:41] <brucebag> hey all, i upgraded to 16.04 a while back. my root is lvm and boots just fine, but my other lvm array is inactive on boot
[05:42] <brucebag> and I have to just skip that mount on boot.
[05:42] <brucebag> is there something I should be putting in fstab, or in init?
[05:51] <brucebag> found a workaround
[05:51] <brucebag> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/1573982
[05:55] <vegombrei> hi how does one VPN in order to download torrents? its apparently frowned upon where im from
[05:56] <Guest93779> Hi, everyone. I posted https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351896 on ububtu forums, need help
[05:56] <reisio> vegombrei: a vpn in this case is merely a proxy
[05:56] <reisio> an encrypted proxy
[05:56] <Guest93779> Please, some one look into this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351896
[05:58] <cfhowlett> running the workstation as room?  why?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !root
[05:58] <vegombrei> reisio: yeah i need to somehow figure out a way to vpn on my browser so that i can put it on just before i download the .torrent file after that i dont need it
[05:59] <reisio> get a seedbox, it'll be simpler & safer
[05:59] <reisio> and faster
 just a warning, happens when one runs a gui program as root.
[06:13] <CrazyTux> is Lubuntu only for old computers or for those computers that have less system resources?
[06:13] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, no
[06:14] <reisio> indeed, LXDE is one of the younger DEs that exists
[06:14] <CrazyTux> ok.
[06:14] <CrazyTux> do people here use Lubuntu on new computers?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, yes
[06:15] <Quality_Beef> duh
[06:15] <reisio> one of the nicer things about free software is that you never have to change your habits :p
[06:15] <reisio> you can use the same old nonsense forever
[06:15] <Quality_Beef> does anyone here Kali?
[06:15] <reisio> kali as a verb, gj
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Quality_Beef, no this is ubuntu support.  kali has their channel. please ask them for support
[06:15] <Quality_Beef> Kali Linux sorry
[06:15] <OerHeks> Quality_Beef, not in this channel
[06:15] <OerHeks> !kali
[06:15] <Quality_Beef> ok
[06:16] <Quality_Beef> sorry
[06:17] <ZJAY> hey what is the name of the drive recovery tool that is in ncurses (old school) that i see in all the videos about drive recovery platter and head changes etc...???
[06:18] <hateball> ZJAY: testdisk or photorec probably
[06:39] <slowest> Does device mapper have a service? I run a script on shutdown and it seems that devicemapper has already stopped working when I run my script.
[06:44] <vidarlo> so. Latest Ubuntu LTS. A memory problem slightly hosed the /home partition
[06:44] <vidarlo> fsck'd the disk manually, working 100% fine to mount it manually now
[06:44] <vidarlo> however, it hangs during startup
[06:44] <vidarlo> and drops into single user mode
[06:44] <vidarlo> _why_?
[06:45] <vidarlo> journalctl -xb shows nothing
[07:01] <Guest75500> j
[07:01] <Guest75500> wtf.is anyone here
[07:01] <Guest75500> yo
[07:01] <Guest75500> yo
[07:01] <Guest75500> yo
[07:01] <Guest75500> yo
[07:10] <rannger__> hello
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> rannger__: welcome, what can we do for you
[07:12] <slowest> How do I set up something to run as early as possible before shutdown? I've tried upstartscript with stop on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[016] and I tried putting a scirpt in rc0.d that starts with S01 but neither seems to work for me
[07:12] <slowest> Some things seem to have already started to shut down
[07:13] <Johnson1977> If im using dhcpcd to configure my network, how can I determine if the current setting is static or DHCP?
[07:27] <nikolam> how to automatically or periodically, remove old, unused linux kernel packages, that are left installed after updates?
[07:28] <nikolam> Have small 32-bit subnotebook serving as small home server and it is eating disk space on small drive.
[07:28] <hateball> nikolam: a cronjob that runs "sudo apt -y autoremove" works for me
[07:28] <nikolam> so once it migh stop updating/halt if not enough disk space for updates
[07:29] <nikolam> hateball, let me try that, thanks
[07:30] <hateball> nikolam: in fact I do not use the built in function for automatic updates for that reason, I run "sudo apt update && sudo apt -y full-upgrade && sudo apt -y autoremove" instead
[07:34] <jinja24> hi all
[07:35] <jinja24> i want to be able to use sed to replace \r\n to ASCII NUL. possible?
[07:35] <nikolam> mm, sudo apt -y autoremove cleans it nicely. That is usefull, thanks hateball :) Do you use BTRFS snapshotting on update, so you have previous state? (I think apt-btrfs-snapshot does it by itself)
[07:49] <hateball> nikolam: I have no production machine I use btrfs on
[07:51] <nikolam> ok hateball thanks for answers. Out of curiosity, are your production machines virtualized? (so you snapshot them from outside)
[07:52] <hateball> nikolam: Yep
[07:52] <nikolam> Thanks hateball :)
[07:52] <hateball> nikolam: and for personal use I still use ext4, btrfs hasnt felt finished
[07:52] <hateball> and some games have issues with non-ext* fs, and that is what I mostly use my machine for in the spare time :p
[07:53] <nikolam> it's personal preference, but I am on ZFS for 9 years and Btrfs seems in production in RedHat/Suse for 2 years I think.
[07:53] <nikolam> ah I understand hateball
[08:34] <tilerendering> I just realized my ubuntu server has lost “gitolite” package after upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 lts
[08:35] <tilerendering> anyone know how to replace it or repair it? without losing my previously configured repositories?
[08:36] <OerHeks> !info gitolite3
[08:36] <OerHeks> !info gitolite3 xenial
[08:41] <dahlia> I'm trying to do this: http://gernotklingler.com/blog/howto-get-hardware-accelerated-opengl-support-docker/  and it wants the same nvidia driver version on the host as the container and the one installed on my host is 367.35-0ubuntu but the one available in the container is 367.57.0ubuntu
[08:42] <dahlia> how can I get the newer one on my host? I did apt-get update but it only shows the older one in aptitude
[08:42] <dahlia> I think my os is kubuntu 15.10
[08:42] <dahlia> 64 bit
[08:43] <ducasse> dahlia: 15.10 is eol
[08:43] <dahlia> isnt there some way I can get the driver?
[08:43] <dahlia> or the older driver in the container?
[08:48] <OerHeks> without graphics ppa yakety has indeed  367.35-0ubuntu1  https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu but the official ppa .57 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:48] <tilerendering> hello - my gitolite package broke during an ugprade from 14.04 to 16.04
[08:48] <OerHeks> not sure where docker gets its nvidia from
[08:48] <OerHeks> tilerendering, read back, it is called geolite3 now?
[08:49] <tilerendering> OerHeks: yes… unfortunately. but I have gitolite installed and my repos were gitolite installed and maintained...
[08:49] <tilerendering> something tells me they will be screwed
[08:49] <tilerendering> and I dont like that at all.
[08:50] <OerHeks> not unusual for upgrade.
[08:53] <OerHeks> I hope you have a backup of your important data?
[08:53] <dahlia> OerHeks: ty but I'm not sure how to use the info on that site to install a driver
[08:54] <dahlia> maybe I'm not seeing something? (sorry I'm legally blind)
[08:54] <GlemSom> I have two nvidia cards in a machine, but I need the nvidia driver to ONLY load on ONE of the cards. How do I do this ?  (The only documentation I've found is regarding blackisting the entire module... which will not work in my case)
[08:55] <OerHeks> dahlia, Adding this PPA to your system ~ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa  sudo apt-get update
[08:55] <OerHeks> but i am not sure this works for docker too
[08:55] <tilerendering> OerHeks: yes the repos are still there....
[08:55] <dahlia> ty I'll try that
[08:56] <tilerendering> OerHeks: I just wonder why the ubuntu upgrade wont warn you that packages will be missing
[08:56] <tilerendering> you know like.. prompting.
[08:56] <tilerendering> very useful nowadays.
[09:03] <dahlia> OerHeks: I tried that command on both the host and the container but still they both only have the same drivers listed in aptitude
[09:03] <dahlia> but ty anyway
[09:04]  * dahlia wonders if it's possible to upgrade kubuntu 15.10 without destroying everything....
[09:06] <OerHeks> oh 15.10 ?  EOL, so you would see errors updating
[09:06] <OerHeks> !olupgrade
[09:06] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[09:06] <nailer> Hello
[09:08] <nailer> Is there any way to import a lot of .ovpn files quickly? Actually I need to inport 24 VPN config files, they are all having the same username and password, but leading to different servers
[09:08] <nailer> Import in network manager, not one by one :)
[09:09] <xbox> Hello
[09:10] <nailer> Hi
[09:10] <xbox> well guys, i got linux to run on my 360
[09:10] <xbox> any ideas on what to do with it now?
[09:10] <hateball> !ot | xbox
[09:10] <yippie_21> Some sites have in-place restrictions that stop any attempts at plain html scraping (this can be bypassed by changing the user-agent, but let's leave that aside for now). How do I recognize such sites? Is there something on the website's robots.txt page or the source code to help me figure that out?
[09:26] <GlemSom> How do I stop nvidia loading from one of my two GPU's ? (I need to use vfio_pci instead)
[09:28] <squig> GlemSom, what did you try so far?
[09:30] <GlemSom> squig, I tried loading vfio_cpi first by adding vfio_pci to initramfs - which didn't work, as nvidia is still loaded first. I tried setting softdep for nvidia... but, initramfs does not seem to honor that... so - guess I need to stop nvidia from loading on that GPU, but I am unable to find that in the documentation
[09:30] <squig> try black listing it
[09:31] <squig> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_modules
[09:31] <squig> might be different on your os
[09:31] <squig> sorry, thought I was in linux not ubuntu
[09:32] <squig> https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
[09:33] <GlemSom> squig, Won't blaclisting it make it NOT load on BOTH GPU's ?
[09:37] <gardon> can I install ubuntu in an MBR disk?
[09:37] <hateball> gardon: Yes
[09:37] <yippie_21> can I ping a website using an online cod complerlike deone?
[09:37] <yippie_21> ideone(
[09:37] <gardon> hateball: how though
[09:37] <gardon> I already made a separate allocation on my disk
[09:38] <gardon> I shrunk one of them.
[09:38] <gardon> (just see first if I got the instructions right)
[09:38] <gardon> then create new volume, right?
[09:38] <hateball> gardon: The installer should help you do all of that, if you plan to install alongside an exisiting OS
[09:39] <gardon> hateball: how do I disable receiving the system messages like someone has joined the channel
[09:40] <hateball> gardon: That would depend on your IRC client
[09:40] <gardon> Im using a browser
[09:40] <gardon> webchat.freenode.net
[09:40] <gardon> I really don't know how to use other clients.
[09:41] <hateball> !irc| gardon
[09:41] <hateball> hmmm
[09:41] <codfection> gardon, where are you from?
[09:42] <OerHeks> Factoid	Value	Author
[09:42] <OerHeks> es spanish espanol spain	<reply> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	Seveas
[09:42] <OerHeks> Added on: 2006-06-18 01:16:12
[09:42] <OerHeks> Last edited by knome
[09:42] <OerHeks> Last modified: 2014-06-06 20:28:06
[09:42] <OerHeks> Requested 19067 times
[09:42] <codfection> LOL
[09:42] <yippie_21> I'm looking for an online code compiler that allows me to ping a website. Any suggestions?
[09:42] <gardon> philippines
[09:43] <hateball> gardon: You could install a proper client like hexchat, quassel, irssi... I dont know if freenodes webclient has any options for you to use
[09:43] <codfection> gardon, http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/243038/scitech/technology/pinoy-linux-flavor-stirs-ripple-in-os-community
[09:43] <gardon> hateball: I guess I'm just going to install ubuntu first before solving the IRC problem.
[09:43] <gardon> I'm trying to do dual boot.
[09:44] <gardon> I heard ubuntu is quite good because it doesn't get infected with virus
[09:44] <codfection> gardon, lol
[09:44] <hateball> gardon: well as I said, the installer should offer to install alongside your existing OS, letting you resize as needed in the process
[09:44] <codfection> Ubuntu itself is a spyware. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[09:45] <hateball> !fud | codfection
[09:45] <gardon> codfection, are you from the philippines as well? The devs of kahelOs went to my school before.
[09:45] <codfection> gardon, nice. why dont you use kahelOS then?
[09:45] <gardon> cod: idk, I don't like the interface, I guess?
[09:45] <gardon> It seems out of date to me.
[09:45] <codfection> you can change DE
[09:46] <gardon> To be honest, I just wanted ubuntu because I saw it on my classmate yesterday.
[09:46] <codfection> its based on arch linux. its definitely more up to date than ubuntu
[09:46] <gardon> And it has some looks that's the same with apple.
[09:46] <hateball> !ot
[09:46] <gardon> cod, is it? :D I just based my observation on the interface. XD
[09:47] <codfection> hateball, so you mean richard stallman is wrong ?
[09:47] <gardon> I dont know anything about linux/ubuntu,
[09:47] <gardon> just wanted that feature that it doesn't get hacked or something
[09:47] <hateball> codfection: It's a discussion for this channel
[09:47] <gardon> something about security.
[09:47] <hateball> codfection: Ugh. *not* for this channel
[09:48] <codfection> gardon, what grade are you in?
[09:48] <gardon> hey guys, I'm using MBR then I'm using Rufus to make a bootable USB.
[09:48] <gardon> Is that alright?
[09:48] <gardon> cod, why are you asking :D I'm already in college but still noob at some topics.
[09:48] <sporthilites> rufus good for making window images
[09:49] <sporthilites> kinda bad for linux distros
[09:49] <gardon> what should i use then
[09:49] <codfection> dd=4M
[09:49] <codfection> !dd
[09:49] <sporthilites> unetbootin
[09:50] <sporthilites> or linux pendrive creator
[09:50] <gardon> I'm using this
[09:50] <gardon> ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64
[09:50] <gardon> btw
[09:50] <gardon> I'm going to be installing this*
[09:51] <codfection> gardon, ubuntu 17.04
[09:51] <hateball> Apparently Rufus is suggested in the official docs, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[09:51] <hateball> codfection: That's not ready for production, and also not supported in here
[09:51] <gardon> hateball: I think that's where I get the idea from.
[09:52] <gardon> https://unetbootin.github.io/ is this alright though?
[09:52] <gardon> I already downloaded it.
[09:52] <hateball> gardon: Just follow the guide then
[09:52] <codfection> how much is the internet speed in pinoy land?
[09:52] <gardon> cod: You're not going to believe it.
[09:53] <squig> GlemSom, you can load your other module first then unblack list it
[09:53] <gardon> It's 1,600 pesos for the ones that doesn't have capping. So that's about 32$ a month.
[09:53] <gardon> 20-25$ for internet that has capping.
[09:53] <gardon> Take note of the KBPS speed.
[09:54] <jcadduono> how do i use the -n feature of "zip" (don't compress these suffixes) ? it is always trying to compress every file
[09:55] <jcadduono> ex. zip -r9v -n gz ../somefile.zip * (it will still try to -9 compress all files that end in .gz)
[09:58] <gardon_> Gadd
[09:58] <gardon_> a
[09:58] <gardon_> Did anyone reply to me.
[09:58] <gardon_> I wasn't able to read that.
[09:59] <gardon_> Should I choose FAT32 or NTFS? It doesn't say on the instruction.
[09:59] <gardon_> hateball Are you there?
[10:00] <big_t> gardon_: fat32
[10:00] <gardon_> Thanks big_t !
[10:00] <hateball> gardon_: yes, like big_t said
[10:01] <hateball> It is also shown clearly in the image on the instructions
[10:03] <gardon_> hope this works
[10:03] <gardon_> hateball: just double checking..
[10:05] <gardon_> I'll be back in 10-15 minutes. See ya guys :P
[10:06] <gardon_> I'll tell you if it worked or nah.
[10:15] <Roshan> HI Guys, I am getting memory exhausted issue in ubuntu. Please suggest me any solution for this.
[10:17] <Roshan> HI Guys, I am getting memory exhausted issue in ubuntu. Please suggest me any solution for this.
[10:17] <hateball> Roshan: Buy and install more RAM
[10:18] <hateball> Roshan: Or describe your issue in better detail and perhaps a problem can be pinpointed
[10:18] <Roshan> I have already 4 GB  RAM
[10:18] <hateball> !details | Roshan
[10:18] <hateball> Roshan: What are you doing when this happens?
[10:18] <hateball> Roshan: Do applications crash, etc etc
[10:18] <blueking> how to check vlan info on interface ?
[10:19] <blueking> if it's tagged or untagged ?
[10:19] <k1l> Roshan: where do you get that message?
[10:19] <Roshan> @hateball  I am trying to install sdk using composer
[10:20] <gardon> not sure why is F2 or F12 isn't working at startup anymore.
[10:20] <k1l> Roshan: so you mean disk space and not memory?
[10:20] <Roshan> hateball, I am getting this error "PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 104 bytes) in /usr/local/bin/composer on line 23"
[10:21] <gardon> you simply press F2, right? To get to that blue screen and then you'll be able to arrange the usb, ang so on.
[10:21] <Roshan> hateball, if I hit any command using composer always get this error
[10:21] <k1l> gardon: that depends on the mainboard. somtimes its del, or esc or f10
[10:21] <gardon> It says F2 for setup and then F12 to choose which drive.
[10:22] <gardon> I'll try again.
[10:22] <hateball> Roshan: I'm not really familiar with that, but usually php.ini has memory settings
[10:23] <hateball> Roshan: oh I see now it cant allocate 104 bytes even. So what does "free -m" show?
[10:23] <Roshan> hateball,  I am not sure about the free memory.
[10:24] <hateball> !paste | Roshan
[10:24] <Roshan> hateball, And i have already increased memory limit in php.ini
[10:24] <k1l> Roshan: https://github.com/composer/composer/issues/1898  increase the memory limit in php.ini as the bug report says
[10:26] <FMan> I made my first website with Netscape Composer a long time ago
[10:32] <mergin> hi guys
[10:32] <mergin> is there anyone
[10:32] <mergin> online
[10:33] <k1l> mergin: yes. just ask the ubuntu question  before all 1800 user say hi :)
[10:34] <mergin> its my first time in here. so wanted to say hi :) no question for now thanks btw
[10:34] <gardon> I almost installed it.
[10:34] <FMan> hi
[10:35] <gardon> I got a problem which to choose in the drives.
[10:35] <mergin> graphics driver?
[10:36] <gardon> There's the install alongside windows 10 option
[10:36] <gardon> and then the last one's you get to choose which drive.
[10:36] <gardon> I already partitioned for the ubuntu.
[10:36] <gardon> I should choose the last one, right?
[10:36] <k1l> gardon: then choose manual install
[10:36] <gardon> brb
[10:36] <ashii> hi - how do I change behavior of SUPER + 1 to stop zoom out if i have multiple browsers going, i just want it to rotate
[10:37] <ashii> i mean i just want it to switch right away to the app, not zooming out giving me an overview
[10:44] <delphinny> hey all, for some reason my Xorg is crashing and I dont know why.. help!
[10:45] <ashii> hey, alt ` isnt bad, i think i can use this for window switching (learned about it just)
[10:46] <hateball> delphinny: have you checked Xorg.log and ~/.xsession-errors ?
[10:49] <delphinny> yeah it looks like its spamming FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Device or resource busy
[10:50] <delphinny> I am using pci-stub to hold my nouveau back for other stuff (going to share it with a virtual machine later)
[10:51] <delphinny> but the onboard intel graphics is working I tested it before this happend, idk why its not registering that though
[10:51] <hateball> right, that is quite exotic usage I am not familiar with
[10:52] <delphinny> can I configure X on the console ?
[10:52] <delphinny> like with some program that uses ncurses or something
[10:53] <delphinny> I think I just need to reconfigure X
[10:55] <MacroMan> I've locked myself outof visudo. I set the editor wrong and I get the error 'visudo: no editor found (editor path = /etc/vim/vimrc)' when running visudo
[10:55] <MacroMan> I'm now aware that vim is located at /usr/bin/vim now
[10:55] <MacroMan> How do I get back in?
[10:56] <akik_> MacroMan: export EDITOR=youreditor
[10:57] <MacroMan> akik_, Thank but that doesn't work
[10:58] <MacroMan> I set Defaults editor=/etc/vim/vimrc in the sudoers file itself
[10:58] <akik_> MacroMan: well it works for me(tm)
[10:58] <MacroMan> I tried editing sudoers directly, but even as root I can't save it.
[10:59] <akik_> MacroMan: boot a live session and fix it there
[10:59] <MacroMan> akik_, A live session?
[11:00] <akik_> MacroMan: yes the media you used to install ubuntu
[11:00] <MacroMan> Can't do that. This is a server in a data centre
[11:00] <MacroMan> I have no physical access
[11:02] <ToBeFree> MacroMan, and your provider does not offer a console or any recovery boot option?
[11:03] <akik_> interesting problem, have to say
[11:03] <FinalX> we offer hands-on for our customers, you sure your provider doesn't?
[11:03] <MacroMan> ToBeFree, yes, but I have to pay their service charge which I want to avoid if I can
[11:03] <ToBeFree> service charge for a console?!
[11:03] <akik_> MacroMan: can you get a root shell with sudo -i ?
[11:03] <MacroMan> Yes
[11:04] <akik_> MacroMan: ok you can fix it with that
[11:04] <MacroMan> But how? I get the same error message
[11:04] <akik_> MacroMan: the sudoers file is a normal text file
[11:05] <MacroMan> And again, I can only open /etc/sudoers in readonly
[11:05] <ToBeFree> I would naively suggest at least rebooting
[11:05] <akik_> MacroMan: ok fix your file system access mode first then
[11:05] <MacroMan> Ah permissions
[11:05] <MacroMan> Hang on
[11:07] <MacroMan> OK sorted. I had to set the write flag on the sudoers file
[11:07] <MacroMan> Then I edited it manually.
[11:08] <MacroMan> Thanks for your help.
[11:11] <delphinny> I got Xorg to work!!! I just need to figure out where to put this new configuration file ..
[11:11] <delphinny> where does ubuntu go for its default X config file ?
[11:12] <hateball> delphinny: by default it has none
[11:12] <hateball> delphinny: but if you want to have your own xorg.conf you can put it in /etc/X11/
[11:13] <delphinny> hateball: if I want to tell it to use such and such graphics card then how do I do it? or where would I put that.. and I'll try that first
[11:14] <Ben64> delphinny: well if xorg is working and you're not using a config now, why do you need one
[11:14] <hateball> They were going to use PCI passthrough to a VM it seems
[11:15] <delphinny> hmm, how can I restart the X display process? forget how to do that
[11:15] <delphinny> dont wanna reboot if I dont have to
[11:15] <delphinny> like login with gnome or whatever I want to start that service with X
[11:16] <delphinny> whatever it runs on startup for X, I need to re-run those
[11:16] <Ben64> delphinny: normally 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[11:16] <Ben64> or maybe now systemctl
[11:16] <delphinny> cool it works!
[11:16] <delphinny> and its working now :D
[11:16] <delphinny> thanks!!
[11:17] <gardon> is this normal? it feels so laggy
[11:17] <gardon> maybe not really lag, but it's definitely not smooth
[11:17] <hateball> gardon: Did you install to disk or are you still running a live session?
[11:17] <gardon> im using i3 1.8Ghz dual + 4gb ram
[11:17] <gardon> I already installed it
[11:18] <gardon> I already removed the flash drive
[11:18] <hateball> gardon: What type of GPU do you have? In the case of nvidia you most likely want the restricted driver installed
[11:18] <hateball> For things to feel "smooth"
[11:18] <gardon> nvidia and intel graphics
[11:18] <k1l> gardon: install the nvidia driver in systemsettings -> software and udpates
[11:19] <hateball> gardon: Right, go into your software updater, there should be a tab for drivers there. pick nvidia-367 or whatever is latest
[11:19] <gardon> alright
[11:19] <hateball> and it will chug for a bit and then tell you to reboot
[11:19] <gardon> the cursor's also blinking,
[11:20] <gardon> there are 4 choices
[11:20] <codfection> hi gardon
[11:20] <gardon> for nvidia driver
[11:20] <gardon> hello cod
[11:20] <codfection> how are you
[11:21] <codfection> hows everything going gardon
[11:21] <gardon> I finally able to install ubuntu
[11:21] <codfection> nice
[11:21] <codfection> so how is it going so far?
[11:21] <hateball> gardon: Pick the one that says nvidia-367
[11:21] <gardon> not sure which driver should i download for nvidia
[11:21] <gardon> alright hateball
[11:21] <gardon> it says the other device is not working
[11:21] <k1l> gardon: not download from nvidie. use the system settings like we told you
[11:22]  * enyc looks around for 16.04.2 images =)
[11:22] <gardon> yup thats what i did k1l
[11:22] <k1l> gardon: what is saying where that its not working?
[11:22] <gardon> software updates then additional driver
[11:22] <gardon> i guess its the driver for the intel?
[11:22] <gardon> intel hd graphics
[11:23] <k1l> can you make a screenshot and load it to imgur.com and show it here?
[11:23] <gardon> hope this isnt a big file because u know, im from the philippines *cries in third world*
[11:23] <hateball> gardon: unlike in windows you can only use one card at a time, so if you want to use the intel card instead of nvidia you have to do that using nvidia-settings after you've installed the restricted driver
[11:24] <gardon> oh wow that helps hateball
[11:24] <gardon> because i just chose 2 :D
[11:24] <gardon> I cancelled it, thanks.
[11:24] <hateball> gardon: the blob is like 70mb
[11:24] <hateball> gardon: Well the other option you had is most likely intel microcode for your cpu
[11:24] <gardon> whata a blob
[11:24] <gde33> is there a channel for the x window system?
[11:24] <hateball> gardon: like k1l said, share a screenshot to make things clear
[11:25] <hateball> !screenshot | gardon
[11:25] <gardon> hold on
[11:25] <gardon> not sure why are there 2 screens
[11:26] <gardon> why is the cursor blinking a lot
[11:26] <hateball> gardon: because nouveau doesnt properly support your GPU, hence the need to install nvidia driver
[11:27] <gardon> give me 15 mins to upload alright
[11:27] <abbas> hey every body i have a file for vagrant ".vagrant/machines/default/virtualbox/private_key" but i cant chmod it , is it some thing related to filesystem  ?
[11:28] <blackfox27> have you type sudo?
[11:28] <blackfox27> . means hidden files
[11:29] <abbas> blackfox27: yes , the problem is another thing  i can never chmod any of my files in this partition
[11:30] <gardon> hope this whole ubuntu thing goes well because I really want a secure computer
[11:30] <hateball> gardon: common sense still applies regardless of OS
[11:30] <gardon> the upload's at 40% right now
[11:31] <blackfox27> irc://chatjnv7sshcuz6a.onion:6667/   Does any of you tried to enter this?
[11:31] <gardon> nah I meam like I hope it goes smooth and look good as well
[11:31] <blackfox27> Is it your first time using ubuntu Linux Distro?
[11:34] <knpl> hello ladies and gentlemen, is there a way to use recursive property with metadata anonymisation toolkit (mat) ?
[11:34] <blackfox27> oho
[11:35] <gardon> are you guys still there? it's imgur.com/a/qwk2c
[11:35] <abbas> hey dude how can i just chmod my files i partition with another type of ext4  ??
[11:35] <abbas> * in partition with another type of ext4  ??
[11:36] <gardon> hateball it's imgur.com/a/qwk2c
[11:36] <gardon> k1l codfection
[11:37] <codfection> yea
[11:37] <pseudo0847> abbas: maybe answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-do-i-use-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[11:37] <gardon> You've seen my screenshot?
[11:38] <codfection> yea
[11:38] <codfection> so what do you want?
[11:38] <codfection> intel or nvidia
[11:38] <codfection> and whats the error you are getting?
[11:39] <gardon> i dont think it's an error, it just says the other one's not working
[11:39] <codfection> where it says its not working?
[11:40] <codfection> ???
[11:40] <codfection> its not in the screenshot
[11:40] <gardon> the second one
[11:40] <gardon> in my screenshpt
[11:40] <gardon> unknown: unknown
[11:40] <codfection> ubuntu: making linux users even dumber
[11:40] <gardon> this device is not working
[11:40] <codfection> gardon, let me check
[11:41] <codfection> its the same screenshot
[11:41] <hateball> gardon: you want to pick intel microcode
[11:41] <hateball> gardon: and the top option for nvidia, nvidia-367
[11:41] <hateball> gardon: the microcode is for your CPU, not GPU
[11:42] <k1l> gardon: choose both. the unkown is for your cpu. that is ok to install too
[11:42] <gardon> ohh
[11:43] <gardon> ohh
[11:43] <gardon> god, im so noon at everything
[11:43] <gardon> noob*
[11:43] <oinho> or let me ask this way: is there a possibility to add a recursive property to a command line operation when this is not listed in its manual?
[11:43] <codfection> its ok gardon. everyone was a noob once.
[11:43] <hateball> gardon: No one knows everything at first :)
[11:43] <codfection> just not as much as you are thou
[11:43] <gardon> nah i tend to stay noob for a while
[11:44] <gardon> like a looong while
[11:45] <gardon> how long did it take for you guys to download this nvidia driver
[11:45] <codfection> gardon, your age?
[11:46] <codfection> gardon, check out "OpenSuse Tumbleweed" distribution if you want updated packages. its fast and reliable like ubuntu.
[11:46] <codfection> it has GUI configuration tool that can help you out rather than fiddling with Command line
[11:47] <scip> I’m trying to re-enable Unity/OpenGL with ccsm; however it get stuck at “Loading icons…” after I close and Unity isn’t enabled.
[11:48] <scip> Context: After applying apt-get upgrade, I log in to screen with just a wallpaper. I have an nvidia card. Searches seems to show this is a unity-not-starting problem
[11:48] <gardon> is it a different os?
[11:49] <scip> Does anyone have experience with this issue? I’ve spent the past several hours trying to debug :(
[11:49] <hateball> codfection: Stop spreading FUD
[11:49] <hateball> codfection: If you have issues with Ubuntu, take them elsewhere
[11:50] <codfection> hateball, he is a new user. I am giving him suggestion so he can get good with linux
[11:50] <k1l> codfection: stop that. asap
[11:50] <hateball> codfection: It's outside the scope of this channel. This channel is for Ubuntu support, nothing else
[11:51] <gardon> what's up with that
[11:51] <codfection> if its a support channel then why are you not helping gardon? please help him with the issues
[11:51] <javor> codfection, i run OpenSuseTumbleweed and it totally crash someday after systemd update :D
[11:51] <codfection> javor, did you manage to fix it?
[11:51] <javor> codfection, nope
[11:52] <javor> codfection, system won't even start
[11:52] <codfection> javor, when was it? migration from init.d to systemd?
[11:53] <javor> codfection, after update systemd from one version to another.
[11:53] <codfection> javor, so what are you using now?
[11:53] <pseudo0847> javor: did you check logs booting from liveUbuntu key?
[11:53] <javor> codfection, ubuntu for workstation and freebsd at home :P
[11:54] <javor> pseudo0847, i saw that binary logs or something like that was broken during update and cannot load system
[11:56] <blackfox27_> Wanna know how to lock and unlock your computer by means of Flashdrive?
[11:56] <gardon> wht wont this computer shut down lol
[11:57] <gardon> it just goes back to the menu where you get to choose between ubuntu and windows
[11:57] <gardon> as if it just restarted
[11:58] <blackfox27_> Maybe you restart it
[11:58] <blackfox27_> You're on dual boot
[11:58] <blackfox27_> Then it loads the GNU grub
[11:58] <gardon> i chose shut down
[11:59] <blackfox27_> and it returns to the grub?
[11:59] <gardon> it dies then goes back
[11:59] <blackfox27_> (Selection of OS)
[11:59] <gardon> wtf
[11:59] <gardon> yup, it goes back to grob
[11:59] <Ben64> gardon: laptop?
[11:59] <gardon> yup laptop
[12:00] <Ben64> laptops do weird stuff sometimes, you might just have to deal with it
[12:00] <gardon> 3rd time doing it
[12:00] <gardon> just goes back to grob
[12:00] <Ben64> so hit the power button during that part
[12:00] <javor> gardon, what command or how you shutdown it?
[12:00] <gardon> i click shut down?
[12:01] <blackfox27_> I guess you mess the boot
[12:01] <javor> gardon, try to type in console: sudo shutdown -h now
[12:01] <blackfox27_> during ubuntu installation.
[12:01] <blackfox27_> Yeah but it will schedule it
[12:01] <gardon> i have no idea blackfox
[12:02] <gardon> not its just black
[12:02] <gardon> wtfffff
[12:02] <blackfox27_> try what the guys says. But it will schedule the shutdown
[12:02] <Ben64> no it doesn't
[12:02] <Ben64> now = now
[12:02] <blackfox27_> okay okay
[12:02] <iszak_> Hello, I am running a bash script which has a trap to capture (EXIT HUP INT QUIT PIPE TERM ABRT KILL SIGTERM) however when I send it an external signal e.g. kill -QUIT <pid> it doesn't seem to pick it up - why?
[12:03] <sonar23> hii friends want to make planing if can help me
[12:03] <scip> I’ve run “dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity” but the unity dash/side panel still isn’t showing up — what should I do to get unity working again? I really just want to use my computer again…
[12:03] <sonar23> please
[12:03] <gardon> how do i go to console
[12:03] <blackfox27_> terminal
[12:04] <scip> Console says unity7 is running
[12:04] <scip> but I’m just stuck here
[12:04] <gardon> aaaaamd it goes back to grub
[12:04] <gardon> im trying windows
[12:05] <gardon> i tried the command and it went back to grub
[12:05] <scip> ccsm is just not persisting settings for me
[12:06] <gardon> how do i remove uubuntu?
[12:06] <javor> gardon, if i remember i got symillar issue
[12:06] <blackfox27_> boot to windows
[12:06] <gardon> i just format the partition where i put itt???
[12:06] <ikonia> gardon: are you finished with ubuntu and no longer wish to use it ?
[12:06] <ikonia> or are you just trying windows and may want ubuntu later
[12:06] <blackfox27_> Boot to windows dude
[12:07] <gardon> ikonia i guess im going to reinstall it
[12:07] <gardon> already did blackfox
[12:07] <ikonia> gardon: just remove the ubuntu partition before you install windows
[12:07] <blackfox27_> Do you want to remove it?
[12:07] <ikonia> it will overwrite the boot loader and you're done
[12:07] <blackfox27_> He's on dual boot
[12:07] <javor> gardon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown/135568#135568
[12:07] <gardon> nahh i already have windows
[12:07] <gardon> oww, thanks javor
[12:08] <javor> gardon, dunno if helps because it got it on OpenSuse but it was connected a little with laptop. Maybe it helps
[12:08] <blackfox27_> sudo poweroff
[12:09] <blackfox27_> sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[12:09] <gardon> i think we have a different situation
[12:09] <gardon> When I reboot my laptop it does shutdown but when it boots back up it stay's on the Purple screen (no logo what so ever)
[12:10] <gardon> mine dies, and then goes back to life :D
[12:10] <gardon> that's what he said, mine dies, you see the power offs
[12:10] <blackfox27_> you only see the violet?
[12:14] <javor> gardon, you need ubuntu on dual boot?
[12:15] <gardon> "need" as in?
[12:16] <gardon> windows shuts down fine
[12:17] <javor> gardon, maybe you can try use ubuntu under virtual machine
[12:17] <javor> gardon, but if you want better performance stay with dual boot
[12:17] <gardon> i wanted to try it out because i thought it looks good
[12:18] <gardon> and my friend said ubuntu cant have virus or something
[12:18] <javor> gardon, so if you want to only try better install as virtual machine if you laptop will handle it :P
[12:18] <gardon> i want to try it on dual boot :P like for full exp
[12:20] <iszak_> it seems that bash will wait for the current process in my bash file to finish before calling the trap
[12:20] <javor> gardon, what ubuntu version?
[12:22] <gardon> 12.04? not really sure. im downloading drivers right now so i cant look it up
[12:23] <javor> gardon, :D
[12:23] <javor> gardon, better install 16.04
[12:23] <gardon> let me just check
[12:24] <gardon> its 16.10
[12:26] <javor> gardon, i suggest you to install 16.04 if you want to reinstall
[12:26] <gardon> im using 16.10 though
[12:27] <javor> gardon, 16.04 is supported for 4 years
[12:27] <vlt> Or even 5
[12:28] <gardon> i really dont have any choice but deal with this since it's the only copy i have
[12:28] <gardon> i have really slow connection so yeahhh
[12:29] <gardon> just installed cpu and gpu drivers
[12:31] <gardon> it's less laggy now
[12:31] <gardon> but the shut down issue is still there
[12:34] <hateball> gardon: that can be ACPI related.. what model laptop do you have? perhaps someone has had the same issue before
[12:34] <javor> gardon, probably its something with kernel parameters provided by grub
[12:34] <CrazyTux> does Ubuntu contain spyware?
[12:35] <hateball> CrazyTux: No
[12:35] <CrazyTux> ok
[12:36] <javor> CrazyTux, if you install such software :D
[12:36] <gardon> javor are you there??
[12:36] <javor> gardon, yep
[12:36] <gardon> so I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762633/ubuntu-16-04-not-shutting-down
[12:36] <gardon> would it be risky to do that or nah?
[12:37] <CrazyTux> I read on the internet an article written by Richard Stallman.
[12:37] <gardon> I think that's what I'm experiencing.
[12:37] <RxMcDonald> hi pls ubuntu is breaking my computer right now
[12:38] <javor> gardon, its secure, it you just checks parition problems
[12:38] <hateball> RxMcDonald: Your trolling wasnt funny last time
[12:38] <gardon> alright, I'm going to try it now.
[12:38] <javor> gardon, but find out what partition you really use for ubuntu
[12:39] <gardon> i think it's sda5
[12:39] <gardon> how do I double check
[12:39] <javor> gardon, ok
[12:39] <gardon> so the command would be fsck /dev/sda5 then?
[12:39] <RxMcDonald> hateball: what is trolling?
[12:39] <javor> yes
[12:39] <gardon> how do I double check if it's the right partition
[12:40] <\9> use df
[12:40] <cacofonix> exit
[12:40] <cacofonix> quit
[12:40] <\9> gardon: you can see what is mounted where with df
[12:40] <gardon> how
[12:40] <gardon> what's ddf
[12:40] <gardon> df
[12:40] <\9> type df into a terminal
[12:40] <gardon> alright
[12:40] <gardon> so the one with /dev/sda5
[12:41] <gardon> it doesn't have say anything on mounted on
[12:41] <\9> it should
[12:41] <gardon> alright
[12:41] <\9> if it's just "/" then it's the filesystem root
[12:41] <gardon> thanks :)
[12:41] <gardon> yeah it's just "/
[12:41] <gardon> I'm doing the tutorial now. bRB
[12:42] <javor> gardon, i going for lunch maybe i will back :D
[12:43] <soee> if my current hdd (whole for /home) has a lot of bad blocks than is it good idea to copy it to new partition or do a fresh install?
[12:54] <geirha> soee: copying /home to a new hdd should suffice
[12:54] <gardon> It did not work.
[12:55] <gardon> javor
[12:55] <gardon> Is anyone on?
[12:57] <makaan> hi guys
[12:58] <gardon> my laptop just reboots when I try shutting down
[12:59] <Psychonaut> gardon, pastebin the output of: dmesg | grep ACPI
[13:01] <gardon> just a minute
[13:03] <midori-rus> hello there. Is possible to change ntfs partition in ubuntu without reload?
[13:03] <makaan> i have a problem, my audio randomly stutters for a fraction of a second, no matter what i'm doing, in youtube or listening to music in VLC, what can it be?
[13:08] <Bastor1492> Why is it that when I start my ubuntu 16.10 from hibernation, ubuntu doesn't ask me for my password?
[13:09] <gardon> Psychonaut: https://paste.ee/p/8QLxx
[13:09] <gardon> Sorry it took more than a minute
[13:12] <gardon> Psychonaut: You seen it?
[13:13] <Duubyz> check me out
[13:13] <hateball> gardon: have you fully updated your system after installing?
[13:13] <gardon> Ohhh
[13:14] <gardon> hateball in the systems and updates?
[13:14] <gardon> software and updates, rather
[13:14] <hateball> gardon: yes
[13:14] <hateball> gardon: or via cli, "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[13:15] <gardon> how big is the file for that
[13:16] <hateball> gardon: it will tell you before you press Yes
[13:16] <hateball> gardon: but possibly hundreds of megabytes
[13:16] <gardon> Let me just finish this package for video
[13:16] <gardon> waaat
[13:16] <gardon> H@H@
[13:17] <gardon> I guess I'm not going to be able to do that then.
[13:17] <Psychonaut> gardon, ensure that your BIOS is updated or try this -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DSDT#Tell_the_kernel_to_report_a_version_of_Windows
[13:17] <gardon> Do I really have to update all these.
[13:18] <gardon>  acpi_os_name="Microsoft Windows NT"
[13:18] <gardon> I'm just going to type that?
[13:21] <gardon> Psychonaut No other way than updating BIOS??
[13:21] <gardon> Like, something just typing a command on terminal.
[13:23] <multifractal> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/protobuf Does this mean that for my version (16.04) I can't use apt-get to install protobuf 3?
[13:23] <multifractal> I'm not really sure of how repositories work.
[13:23] <Psychonaut> gardon, try with acpi_osi="!Windows 2015", generally ACPI problems are fixable by update bios/adding boot flags/upgrading ACPI drivers
[13:24] <gardon> No risk doing that?
[13:24] <gardon> Psychonaut No risk doing that?
[13:25] <hateball> multifractal: that is correct
[13:25] <gardon> Psychonaut No risk doing that?
[13:25] <hateball> multifractal: there might be backports or some other PPA for that package, but it's not supported by default 16.04
[13:26] <Psychonaut> gardon, in worst case scenario it'll freeze your system
[13:26] <gardon> What would I do then
[13:26] <gardon> I just shut down, right? :D
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> multifractal: you need the package for something else?
[13:27] <hateball> gardon: Yes
[13:27] <gardon> Alright, thanks.
[13:27] <hateball> gardon: if you add it as a grub boot option it'll be temporary, so no damage done
[13:27] <hateball> gardon: as opposed to editing /etc/default/grub which makes it permanent
[13:27] <multifractal> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? I just prefer using apt-get to building from source whenevr I can.
[13:28] <ldsh> BluesKaj, Hi, The changes we made some days ago did not seemed to help to get soud at each boot. I had 3 days without sound, but it's back today (and I did only boot in Linux, no reboot in windows since long, but in Windows is always with sound)
[13:28] <ldsh> sound*
[13:28] <gardon> I hope you'd tell me how to do that hateball because I really have no idea what I'm doing right now.
[13:32] <blackfox27> Clash o rama
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> blackfox27: can we help you?
[13:32] <blackfox27> Yes. actually
[13:33] <blackfox27> Is parrot OS is safer to use than ubuntu in terms of security and stability?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> multifractal: apt-cache search protobuf gives a few, perhaps interesting for you?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> blackfox27: this is the ubuntu support channel here, we only provide support for ubuntu here
[13:34] <blackfox27> Oh sorry.
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> blackfox27: feel free to ask in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:35] <k1l> blackfox27: we cant answer that for non ubuntu os. we suggest you run official ubuntu flavors to get the support from the ubuntu security team patching the known security issues. see ubuntu.com/usn
[13:35] <GlemSom> I have a 16.10 machine, with a constant load of 1.00... How-ever, there is no CPU load, and no disk load... How do I figure out where the load then comes from ?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: htop can help you on that perhaps?
[13:36] <GlemSom> lotuspsychje, In what way ? It shows nearly no CPU load, no swap in use, no disk load... but a Linux load of 1.00...
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: you might wanna do some tests, like htop, see what process ontop, check syslog, dmesg etc
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: this is a fresh install?
[13:41] <jesperson> Hey guys, anyone here up to help me with my Corsair Void headset? Every time it's connected it gradually mutes my volume and makes my mouse unusable...
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> jesperson: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your headset, see the errors you get?
[13:43] <jesperson> lotuspsychje, I had a ton of output there
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> jesperson: can you pastebin plz?
[13:44] <jesperson> all of it?
[13:44] <jesperson> I'm trying to find just the part where I connect and disconnect the usb-device
[13:44] <GlemSom> lotuspsychje, Yes, fresh install...  htop/top reveals only 1 process in running state (rest is in S state)... that process is top itself... ;)  So, I can conclude no processes that are running is causing the load... Nothing worth mentioning in dmesg/syslog... I honestly have NO clue where to look then
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: system up to date to latest?
[13:45] <GlemSom> lotuspsychje, Yes
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: installed something weird? ppa's? when did it went wrong?
[13:46] <GlemSom> A load of 1.00 would iirc indicate ONE process is waiting for something... But, how do I find out what process it is - and what it is waiting for ?
[13:46] <GlemSom> lotuspsychje, Nope, fesh without any ppa's
[13:46] <jesperson> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/37zitMZq - the best I could do I'm afraid
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> jesperson: this might be usefull perhaps: [alsa-sink-USB Audio] alsa-util.c: Could not recover from POLLERR|POLLNVAL|POLLHUP with snd_pcm_prepare(): No such device
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> not sure what it means exactly
[13:48] <jesperson> I do not know either
[13:49] <jesperson> I've had this problem before and fixed it by basically ignoring it as an input device in the X11 conf but now it doesn't seem to work...
[13:50] <gardon> I give up.
[13:51] <gardon> Can't find a tutorial that's working.
[13:51] <gardon> The other ones seem to be so hard to do. :(
[13:51] <sporthilites> sorry gardon...what exactly is the issue
[13:51] <gardon> It does not shut down when you try to shut down.
[13:51] <hateball> gardon: it shouldnt be all that hard really. what step are you having problems with?
[13:51] <gardon> The LED turns off then it boots again.
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> GlemSom: perhaps you might consider a new 16.10 bug for it
[13:52] <gardon> Nahh. I'll be back tomorrow hateball.
[13:52] <gardon> For that shutdown bug.
[13:52] <hateball> gardon: reboot, hold shift to enter grub menu, edit the bootline and add the desired option
[13:52] <hateball> gardon: but it would be easier if you had a separate system to chat from of course :)
[13:52] <javor> gardon, try as virtual machine :D
[13:53] <gardon> I'll be back tomorrow hateball
[13:53] <gardon> javor, what would I do with vM. I have one in here.
[13:53] <gardon> I'm on windows right now.
[13:54] <javor> gardon, install vmware-player and test ubuntu
[13:54] <gardon> Not sure if the shut down bug can be tested on VM because when you shut down there, it'll suspend the program or something. I'm not sure though.
[13:54] <gardon> javor, my friend has this very same ISO file and it works fine on his computer.
[13:55] <javor> gardon, if you want to test ubuntu try as virtual machine
[13:55] <hateball> javor: that wont help at all to fix the problem on an already installed dual boot
[13:55] <hateball> gardon: and your friend has different hardware
[13:55] <gardon> Yup, he has a different model of laptop hateball.
[13:56] <EriC^^> gardon: is it a dell?
[13:56] <gardon> There's the laptop mode option, I've read somewhere. The guy that posted it says that it worked to him, then it was agreed by one of the commentors, and then claimed to freeze the mouse and keyboard of the other XD
[13:56] <gardon> EriC It's Acer
[13:56] <gardon> Both of our computer is acer.
[13:57] <gardon> I'll be back tomorrow :P
[13:57] <gardon> Time to do work.
[13:57] <EriC^^> aha, i saw some threads online about that recently, something about the usb not powering off
[13:57] <blueking> all devices can ping eachother within a subnet,  I can ping some of devices from another subnet (router config to pass icmp)  but one device refuse ping .. are there a reason for this ?
[13:57] <EriC^^> so it reboots by itself
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> blueking: perhaps the ##networking guys might know better
[13:58] <gardon> EriC it's already installed, and there's no more usb inserted
[13:58] <blueking> looks like there are config thing in firewall on ubuntu box ?
[13:58] <EriC^^> gardon: yes i mean the usb bus, hold on
[13:59] <gardon> Alright
[13:59] <blueking> same thing happens to http and ssh
[14:02] <EriC^^> gardon: this might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/acer-laptop-won%27t-shutdown-normally-4175531755/page2.html , also this page has the stuff about the usb not powering off https://www.behnke.io/fedora-17-on-an-aspire-v5-571-reboot-on-shutdown/ there's an easy command to see if that's what's causing it ( the for i in /... command )
[14:03] <gardon> I think this is the model of my laptop: Aspire V5-571, not entirely sure though.
[14:03] <EriC^^> aha, try the command for the usb and see if it works
[14:03] <gardon> Thanks a lot, I hope this works. I can't test it right now though.
[14:04] <EriC^^> for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control; do echo on | sudo tee "$i"; done
[14:04] <Southern_Gentlem> and look to see if acer has released an updated bios for your laptop as well
[14:04] <EriC^^> use that one instead
[14:04] <gardon> Where did you get that.
[14:04] <EriC^^> gardon: no problem
[14:04] <gardon> is it the same with for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control;     do echo on > $i done
[14:05] <EriC^^> yeah, but you have to run the above from a root shell
[14:05] <gardon> wat
[14:05] <gardon> :D
[14:05] <EriC^^> sudo -i , to get  a root shell, then
[14:06] <EriC^^> for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control; do echo on > $i; done
[14:06] <EriC^^> it's the same thing basically :D
[14:06] <gardon>  for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control; do echo on | sudo tee "$i"; done
[14:06] <gardon> but is this better
[14:06] <gardon> what does | stands for?
[14:06] <EriC^^> gardon: | is a pipe , it links the stdout of one command to the stdin of the other after it
[14:07] <gardon> hold on
[14:07] <gardon> don't log off. I'm switching to ubuntu
[14:10] <Moondhum> Does ubuntu use customized version of plymouth? When I install plymouth on other distros it doesn't work nicely like in ubuntu.
[14:11] <gardon> eric
[14:11] <gardon> gimme the code :D
[14:11] <EriC^^> gardon: for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control; do echo on | sudo tee "$i"; done
[14:12] <gardon> just paste that as a single line on terminal?
[14:12] <ducasse> Moondhum: it might need configuration, but we really only care about how it works on ubuntu :)
[14:12] <EriC^^> gardon: yup
[14:12] <gardon> it said on on on on on
[14:13] <EriC^^> gardon: ok, cool
[14:13] <EriC^^> gardon: try to shutdown and see if it works now
[14:13] <gardon> What do I do next?
[14:13] <gardon> Alright
[14:13] <gardon> BRB
[14:14] <gardon> oh no
[14:14] <gardon> Eric it said
[14:14] <gardon> It has experienced an internal error
[14:14] <gardon> for /usr/bin/compiz
[14:15] <EriC^^> when pressing shutdown?
[14:15] <gardon> Nah that error just appeared
[14:15] <EriC^^> oh
[14:15] <gardon> I just ignore it, right
[14:15] <EriC^^> is it still open?
[14:16] <gardon> Yup
[14:16] <EriC^^> is there a details button somewhere?
[14:16] <gardon> yup
[14:17] <gardon> It just says if you notice further problems, try restarting the computer.
[14:17] <gardon> Maybe this is the error that the command that we just used gives.
[14:18] <EriC^^> gardon: yeah i'm thinking maybe too
[14:18] <gardon> There's a continue button.
[14:18] <EriC^^> try to shutdown and see if it works first, if it works we'll check why it's happening and stuff
[14:19] <gardon> alright
[14:19] <rowe> Hi guys, I have a few tech-support questions. I installed openxcom on Ubuntu, then I thought I had the wrong version, so I tried to "uninstall" it by deleting the openxcom folder in /usr/share and then redownloading the knapsu ppa, but the folder I deleted didn't come back and openxcom won't launch. I fucked up, but can I unfuck it?
[14:20] <ducasse> rowe: first of all, watch the language, please.
[14:21] <ducasse> rowe: did you download a package or add a ppa?
[14:22] <vlt> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and want to use a myqsl backend for users and groups. I have an old 12.04 system where everything works just fine with pam_mysql. Has something changed since then or can I try to use the same config files also on 16.04?
[14:22] <rowe> I did the following to install it the first time: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:knapsu/openxcom-beta"
[14:22] <rowe> "sudo apt-get update"
[14:23] <rowe> "sudo apt-get install openxcom"
[14:23] <ducasse> rowe: ok, try 'sudo apt install --reinstall openxcom'
[14:23] <rowe> Thank you, I will!
[14:24] <gardon> Guess whose bug just got fixed :D
[14:24] <gardon> Eric.
[14:25] <EriC^^> gardon: :D
[14:25] <gardon> I have to see if I would have to do it again and again though
[14:25] <gardon> Do I have to do the code
[14:25] <gardon> Every time?
[14:25] <gardon> Thanks a lot :D
[14:25] <EriC^^> gardon: no you can put it in a script so it does it automatically
[14:25] <gardon> How?
[14:25] <rowe> That did it.  Thank you so much! Sorry about the cussing.
[14:26] <ducasse> rowe: no problem :)
[14:26] <EriC^^> gardon: type "sudo nano /usr/local/bin/haltusbpower.sh"
[14:26] <gardon> Alright
[14:27] <gardon> What's the code?
[14:27] <ash_workz> EriC^^: hey
[14:27] <EriC^^> gardon: paste these in it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960817/
[14:27] <EriC^^> hey ash_workz
[14:27] <gardon> How do I save
[14:28] <EriC^^> gardon: ctrl+x
[14:28] <gardon> How do I save the script?
[14:28] <gardon> Then?
[14:28] <gardon> I pressed Y
[14:29] <EriC^^> gardon: did it exit?
[14:29] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I dunno if this requires a lot more information for anyone to explain, but apparently those nvme drives resulted in fiodata and san
[14:29] <gardon> It did not.
[14:29] <ash_workz> EriC^^: does that make sense to you?
[14:29] <Guest93598> Hi all, anyone knows why unattended-upgrades are installed even when you specify not to install it in the installation procedure?
[14:29] <EriC^^> gardon: ah, press enter
[14:29] <gardon> Alright, done.
[14:29] <gardon> How do I open the script again?
[14:30] <EriC^^> gardon: ok, type "chmod +x /usr/local/bin/haltusbpower.sh"
[14:30] <EriC^^> gardon: sudo nano /usr/local/bin/haltusbpower.sh opens it up
[14:30] <ducasse> Guest93598: probably so it can just be switched on without downloading and installing it
[14:30] <gardon> What does chmod does?
[14:31] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what's fiodata and san?
[14:31] <benno_> hi all
[14:31] <EriC^^> gardon: it changes the permissions to executable
[14:31] <ash_workz> EriC^^: mount shows them as: fiodata on /fiodata type zfs (rw,relatime,xattr,noacl)\n san on /san type zfs (rw,relatime,xattr,noacl
[14:31] <gardon> it says operation not permitted
[14:32] <EriC^^> gardon: oh, use sudo with it
[14:32] <EriC^^> my bad
[14:32] <gardon> sudo chmod?
[14:32] <gardon> Like that?
[14:32] <clvx> ducasse: yeah, I ran different installation with an without specifying the option, but I still got the unattended-upgrades package.
[14:32] <EriC^^> gardon: yup
[14:32] <gardon> There's no output.
[14:32] <EriC^^> ash_workz: maybe that's the naming of the zfs stuff?
[14:32] <clvx> ducasse: this is happening in Xenial
[14:33] <EriC^^> ash_workz: i've no idea completely about zfs i'm afraid :/
[14:33] <ash_workz> gardon: that's normal; you can check the success using ls -al
[14:33] <ducasse> clvx: iirc, the installer asks whether you want automatic updates turned on or not, and not if the package should be installed.
[14:34] <gardon> I don't get the output of ls -al
[14:34] <ash_workz> EriC^^: does excluding the class in chmod an implicit a+ ?
[14:34] <ash_workz> gardon: the first column in ls -al will show you the permissions for each file
[14:35] <EriC^^> gardon: type "sudo nano /usr/lib/systemd/system/haltusbpower.service"
[14:35] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah
[14:35] <gardon> I don't see haltusbpower.sh
[14:35] <gardon> eric, then?
[14:35] <clvx> ducasse: ok, so it is installed by default but not activated? .. well, I id some tests and it seems it's activated by default in both cases. Here's a dump of the config files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960844/
[14:36] <EriC^^> gardon: paste these http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960847/
[14:36] <clvx> did*
[14:37] <ash_workz> gardon: the permissions are broken into the first char, +3 groups of chars following; (ie: drwxrw-rw-) ... the first letter is what type of thing it is (file, directory, block, pipe, link...) the next 3 letters show permissions for the owner, then next 3 are for the group, and the last 3 are for everybody.
[14:38] <gardon> [Unit] Description=haltusbpower Before=shutdown.target DefaultDependencies=no  [Service] ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/haltusbpower.sh Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes  [Install] WantedBy=shutdown.target
[14:38] <gardon> it says error writing
[14:38] <EriC^^> did you use sudo with nano?
[14:39] <gardon> Yup
[14:39] <gardon> Exactly what you typed
[14:39] <anddam_> clissold345: the touchpad thing helped and did not help at the same time
[14:39] <gardon> sudo nano /usr/lib/systemd/system/haltusbpower.service
[14:39] <ducasse> clvx: i've never really looked into it, but i know for certain that it does not actually install updates by default if you say no in the installer. i _think_ i just enabled the repos i wanted and enabled the service, but i might be mistaken.
[14:39] <anddam_> oh he's not here
[14:39] <pabloab> Hi! I'm having one of those problems a little bit difficult to google it, I think might be a challenge. I shoot?
[14:40] <pabloab> Here it is: I write in Spanish and sometimes use diacritics with dead keys, for example "liberación" ("liberation"). Usually I don't have any problem, but when the GUI freeze for any reason it seems that the diacritic char jump to the first position on the keyboard buffer, showing "óliberacin". This happened since more than one year, with several kernels, Ubuntu versions, hardware and versions of Firfeox and Chorme. I couldn't find any pattern and nor so
[14:40] <pabloab> mething strange on dmesg or /var/log files...
[14:40] <EriC^^> gardon: odd
[14:40] <clvx> ducasse: where can I ask or get better information about this? .. I don't want to open a bug until I'm completely sure about this.
[14:40] <gardon> error writing and then no such file or.....
[14:41] <EriC^^> gardon: oh, the dir isn't in ubuntu, i got it from the guide that's for fedora
[14:41] <EriC^^> hold on
[14:41] <gardon> Alright
[14:41] <ducasse> clvx: try #ubuntu-server
[14:42] <EriC^^> gardon: try "sudo nano /lib/systemd/system/haltusbpower.service"
[14:43] <gardon> It's okay now. :)
[14:43] <EriC^^> ok :)
[14:44] <EriC^^> try "sudo systemctl enable haltusbpower"
[14:44] <KP-> apt-get moo
[14:45] <gardon> "sudo systemctl enable haltusbpower" is this for me EriC
[14:45] <EriC^^> gardon: yup
[14:45] <gardon> Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/shutdown.target.wants/haltusbpower.service → /lib/systemd/system/haltusbpower.service.
[14:45] <gardon> That's the reply.
[14:46] <EriC^^> gardon: ok, great
[14:46] <EriC^^> gardon: try to shutdown!
[14:46] <gardon> Hope it works. :)
[14:46] <EriC^^> yup
[14:48] <ip> كك
[14:48] <Guest46377> Guset !!
[14:48] <Guest46377> Guys  i want to bootable kali linux
[14:49] <Guest46377> but i can't way
[14:49] <Guest46377> ?
[14:49] <ducasse> !kali | Guest46377
[14:49] <gardon> Eric, it workd :D
[14:49] <gardon> Eric, it workd :D
[14:49] <EriC^^> gardon: great :D
[14:49] <gardon> Thank you so much.
[14:50] <EriC^^> gardon: no problem :)
[14:50] <gardon> If you weren't here, I probably have uninstalled this eventually :D
[14:50] <ash_workz> woot
[14:50] <EriC^^> gardon: hehe
[14:50] <gardon> Now I'm back to the ubuntu master race :D lol
[14:50] <EriC^^> gardon: haha :D
[14:50] <gardon> Time to make the interface look like a Mac. :D
[14:50] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I'm confused, and I don't know if you can help me with this but I'd appreciate your input anyway
[14:51] <EriC^^> gardon: :D
[14:51] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what's up?
[14:51] <ash_workz> EriC^^: right now on the server $ psql links to /usr/bin/psql
[14:51] <ash_workz> which I guess is wrong, after installing postgres via apt-get the commands for it are all in /usr/lib/postgresql/9.5/bin/
[14:52] <pabloab> Excellent! Now, someone could please point me at least any hint, direction... something
[14:52] <EriC^^> ash_workz: try "dpkg -S /usr/bin/psql"
[14:53] <pabloab> I google it a lot but nothing so far
[14:53] <ash_workz> I tried export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/postgresql/9.5/bin but `which psql` still shows the old path
[14:53] <ash_workz> pabloab: wrong channel?
[14:53] <EriC^^> ash_workz: /usr/bin/psql is empty?
[14:54] <ash_workz> EriC^^: no, I dunno what's wrong with it exactly
[14:54] <pabloab> ash_workz, I don't think so. Some minutes ago I wrote:
[14:54] <geirha> ash_workz: "which" is useless. What does ''type psql'' say?
[14:54] <pabloab> I write in Spanish and sometimes use diacritics with dead keys, for example "liberación" ("liberation"). Usually I don't have any problem, but when the GUI freeze for any reason it seems that the diacritic char jump to the first position on the keyboard buffer, showing "óliberacin". This happened since more than one year, with several kernels, Ubuntu versions, hardware and versions of Firfeox and Chorme. I couldn't find any pattern and nor something stra
[14:54] <pabloab> nge on dmesg or /var/log files...
[14:54] <akik_> ash_workz: you're adding the path to the  end, that's why
[14:54] <gardon> Has anyone made their Ubuntu look exactly like Mac here?
[14:55] <ash_workz> akik_: oh, that makes sense
[14:55] <nacc> ash_workz: it's not sufficient to konw you're using psql in /usr/bin, you ahve to know if it's a symlink, etc,
[14:55] <ash_workz> geirha: thanks for that! yeah, it says /usr/bin/psql
[14:56] <ducasse> pabloab: have you tried #ubuntu-es?
[14:56] <tihert_> Débutant sur linux mabox openbox 16.10. Demande aide - Echec ouverture image systeme installé sur virtualbox v 5.1.6 - message d'erreur ci-après / Échec de l'ouverture de session pour la machine virtuelle mabox openbox.
[14:56] <tihert_> Could not open the medium '/media/tihert/0EF016A00EF016A0/VirtualBox mabox openbox/mabox openbox.vhd'.
[14:56] <tihert_> VD: error VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND opening image file '/media/tihert/0EF016A00EF016A0/VirtualBox mabox openbox/mabox openbox.vhd' (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND).
[14:56] <tihert_> Code d'erreur : NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[14:56] <tihert_> Composant : MediumWrap
[14:56] <tihert_> Interface : IMedium {4afe423b-43e0-e9d0-82e8-ceb307940dda}
[14:56] <nacc> !fr | tihert_
[14:56] <nacc> !paste | tihert_
[14:57] <ash_workz> I mean, I dunno why, but /usr/bin/psql works locally, and I think I used the same apt-get command
[14:57] <pabloab> ducasse, not yet, but since it seems something should affect any language with diacritics like french or german I'm trying with a more international public..
[14:57] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what does ls -l /usr/bin/psql show?
[14:57] <nacc> ash_workz: I lack context, can you in one line state the issue?
[14:57] <tihert_> ok recu pour le Francais, Merci
[14:58] <ash_workz> EriC^^: oooo; /usr/bin/psql -> ../share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper
[14:58] <EriC^^> ash_workz: that seems right somehow
[14:59] <nacc> yeah, the client wrapper dtrt for various versions
[14:59] <nacc> iirc
[14:59] <ash_workz> nacc: um; I just find it weird that after a postgres install, the commands end up in /usr/lib/postgresql/9.5/bin
[14:59] <nacc> ash_workz: those binaries are from a specific version of postgresql-client, postgrestql-client-common dtrt
[15:00] <ash_workz> nacc: okay...
[15:01] <nacc> ash_workz: `apt-cache show postgresql-client-common` to see why
[15:01] <nacc> ash_workz: under the description
[15:01] <nacc> ash_workz: same for postgresql-common, etc
[15:01] <ash_workz> nacc: I don't understand the implication
[15:02] <nacc> ash_workz: what implication?
[15:02] <ash_workz> nacc: the issue is that psql yeilds `Error: Invalid data directory` unless I qualify the command with the full path in /usr/lib
[15:04] <gardon> GeekEndx
[15:04] <pabloab> ducasse, also, here we are 1800 users, on ubuntu-es just 30 :-/
[15:05] <nacc> ash_workz: aiui, psql is just a symlink to the wrapper command, which just, in turn, calls the correct version under /usr/lib/postgrestql/xxx ... Do you have multiple versions installed under /usr/lib/postgresql?
[15:05] <ducasse> pabloab: just a thought, but since there is no response here it might be worth a shot. you could also file a bug, if you can narrow it down.
[15:05] <ash_workz> nacc: no
[15:07] <gardon> Can someone help me with this plese
[15:07] <gardon> http://www.noobslab.com/2016/04/macbuntu-1604-transformation-pack-for.html
[15:07] <gardon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/macbuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install macbuntu-os-icons-lts-v7 sudo apt-get install macbuntu-os-ithemes-lts-v7
[15:07] <gardon> I get error on the third and fourth sudo.
[15:07] <nacc> ash_workz: can you pastebin 'ls -ahl `which psql`' 'ls -ahl $(readlink `which psql`)'
[15:07] <gardon> It says it's unable to locate the package
[15:08] <k1l> gardon: details matter,. show the exact output on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[15:08] <hateball> !ppa | gardon
[15:08] <k1l> gardon: and using too much PPAs will result in trouble, since only the original ubuntu packages are automated tested by ubuntu.
[15:08] <gardon> waatt
[15:08] <gardon> :D
[15:09] <gardon> What does that mean
[15:09] <gardon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960977/
[15:09] <k1l> it means you are installing 3rd party stuff, that can cause issues and ubuntu is not to blame for that.
[15:09] <gardon> If I install this, I can become prone to troubleS?
[15:09] <gardon> Oww
[15:10] <k1l> gardon: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[15:10] <gardon> How do I make the interface look like apple then
[15:10] <gardon> 16.10
[15:10] <gardon> Ubuntu.
[15:10] <Guest16834> first time here
[15:10] <sea4> hi i've just installed ubuntu and am verry novice is there any tips 4 new os
[15:11] <k1l> gardon: be carefull. there is no v7 for 16.10 in that ppa. its v8 for 16.10
[15:11] <gardon> Yeah, my friend said so too.
[15:11] <ash_workz> ls: cannot access '../share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper': No such file or directory
[15:11] <gardon> That it should be v8.
[15:11] <k1l> sea4: start using it :) if you want to install programs first look into the official repos
[15:12] <sea4> repos?
[15:12] <nacc> ash_workz: bah relative symlinks ... ok, `ls -ahl /usr/share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper`
[15:12] <ash_workz> oh
[15:12] <ash_workz> yeah, I just realized that
[15:12] <gardon> k1l should I uninstall this
[15:12] <MrOpenSource> d
[15:12] <sea4> verry novice
[15:13] <EriC^^> sea4: repositories, it's the place where the packages are
[15:13] <k1l> sea4: it means: use the software center and dont load stuff from websites :)  ubuntu ships prgrams in pacakges already made working for the system
[15:13] <ash_workz> nacc: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8.2K May  6  2015 /usr/share/postgresql-common/pg_wrapper
[15:13] <sea4> ok thanks
[15:13] <EriC^^> !manual | sea4 see here quickly
[15:13] <joinrer> how to remove packages, and also its dependecies ? recursively ?
[15:14] <k1l> gardon: every 3rd party repo is a potential risk to break things. but since you want the mac look its your decision
[15:14] <gardon> "break things"?
[15:14] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, so that's not a symlink -- is it a script? can you pastebin the contents?
[15:14] <gardon> How do I uninstall this :D
[15:14] <k1l> !ppa-purge | gardon
[15:14] <EriC^^> joinrer: sudo apt-get remove --autoremove <package> is as close as it gets using the default programs
[15:15] <sea4> thanks i'll read up
[15:15] <MrOpenSource> Hey All
[15:15] <gardon> so like this? sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/macbuntu
[15:15] <sea4> wow this is so diff than windows
[15:15] <joinrer> EriC^^: kk
[15:16] <gardon> k1l so exacly like sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/macbuntu
[15:16] <k1l> gardon: yes
[15:16] <joinrer> and , there are a list of confusing commands, regarding locally installed, files, ownded by a particular package
[15:16] <ash_workz> nacc: woah, I somehow missed your question
[15:17] <MrOpenSource> How do is see when I install a 3rd party PPA
[15:17] <gardon> how do I install ppa-purge
[15:17] <joinrer> and also list all files of a package, these commands are notoriously confusing especially for locally vs in the sync repo?
[15:17] <k1l> gardon: sudo apt install packagename
[15:17] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, it's a perl script
[15:17] <ldsh> BluesKaj, Hi, The changes we made some days ago did not seemed to help to get sound at each boot. I had 3 days without sound, but it's back today (and I did only boot in Linux, no reboot in windows since long, but in Windows is always with sound)
[15:17] <k1l> MrOpenSource: you need to add that ppa manually. so you see it while you do it :)
[15:17] <joinrer> How do I know it applies locally , or to the sync repo ? Is there a neat cheat sheet or something for this kind of thing ?
[15:17] <gardon> sudo apt install ppa-purge
[15:17] <k1l> gardon: yes
[15:18] <gardon> so exactly this k1l sudo apt install packagename
[15:18] <gardon> so exactly this k1l sudo apt install ppa-purge
[15:18] <joinrer> so there are a total of four commands, two for locally, and two for the sync repos. Packages list of files, and files ownded by a particular package ? EriC^^ do you know ?
[15:18] <ash_workz> nacc: https://gist.github.com/ash-m/d97fa483d158cb221cc01554b194f959
[15:18] <nacc> joinrer: please stop saying 'sync repos' :) it's not a thing.
[15:19] <joinrer> nacc then what do I say ?
[15:19] <k1l> joinrer: you are asking about apt and dpkg?
[15:19] <nacc> joinrer: they are just repos
[15:19] <nacc> joinrer: can you provide a specific example?
[15:19] <pabloab> ducasse, thanks for your response. I thought filling a bug, I need to be more specific, more tools to debug the problem
[15:19] <nacc> joinrer: probably using a pastebin
[15:19] <gardon> k1l: can you take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/23961012/
[15:19] <joinrer> yes, nacc but repos are both local, adn in teh servers of canonical
[15:19] <joinrer> k1l yes
[15:20] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, I have the same script locally (which works btw)
[15:20] <k1l> joinrer: no, repos are only "somewhere else". if you have a bunch of .deb packages on your system its not a repo :)
[15:20] <nacc> joinrer: no, repos are not local. your system downloads information about the repo and some files
[15:20] <ducasse> pabloab: you need to file it against a specific package, so you need to have _some_ idea what goes wrong.
[15:20] <joinrer> nacc I don't know what you are asking, I just want a cmd for list of package files
[15:20] <nacc> joinrer: what are you actually trying to do?
[15:20] <k1l> gardon: ok, that looks good. it removes the macbunutu ppa.
[15:20] <joinrer> nacc uhh
[15:20] <nacc> joinrer: a *specific* example
[15:20] <MrOpenSource> k1l where can I see if i have 3rd party software on my ubuntu machine ??
[15:20] <gardon> k1l Thanks !! :)
[15:21] <k1l> gardon: but you still miss 219 updates. so run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[15:21] <nacc> ash_workz: do you have a .postgresqlrc in ~ ?
[15:21] <nacc> ash_workz: or /etc/postgresql-common/user_clusters
[15:21] <joinrer> pacman is much simpler to use. pacman -Fl firefox what's the qual of that
[15:21] <gardon> okay wait.
[15:21] <k1l> MrOpenSource: by looking into sources.list and the sources.list.d folder
[15:21] <joinrer> pacman -Fs file what's teh equal of that
[15:21] <MrOpenSource> ok
[15:21] <gardon> k1l, this is a huge file.
[15:21] <ash_workz> nacc: what user for ~? it doesn't have a home directory
[15:21] <gardon> I can't download this at the moment.
[15:21] <ash_workz> s/it/postgres/
[15:21] <gardon> because you know,
[15:21] <joinrer> I came from arch, on to ubuntu, and find it's apt-get complex
[15:21] <gardon> I live in the philippines :D
[15:22] <k1l> joinrer: apt search packagename #to search for things
[15:22] <joinrer> and dpkg system too
[15:22] <nacc> ash_workz: the user you are running the command as (psql)
[15:22] <k1l> gardon: ok, but you will need to get that udpates since they are security critical
[15:22] <EriC^^> joinrer: dpkg -S /file gives you which package owns that file
[15:22] <avasquez> hey, I don't know if it's the right channel, but any idea when 16.04.2 is being released?
[15:22] <nacc> joinrer: rather than mention a command from another distribution, tell us *specifically* what you want to do.
[15:22] <gardon> k1l: Nevermind, I'm getting it right now. I'll get it eventually so why not get it now right :D
[15:23] <joinrer> nacc sighs
[15:23] <joinrer> I told you if you'd listen, your listening skills need improvement
[15:23] <nacc> joinrer: does that command, e.g., list all files installed by the firefox package?
[15:23] <nacc> joinrer: no, you didn't
[15:23] <ash_workz> nacc: no to .postgresqlrc, yes to clusters
[15:23] <nacc> ash_workz: can you pastebin clusters?
[15:23] <joinrer> yes; i want to list all files, both for packages, and repos
[15:23] <joinrer> and teh reverse too
[15:24] <nacc> for installed pacakges, `dpkg -L <pkgname>` for not-installed packages `apt-file update; apt-file list <pkgname>` for the first.
[15:24] <ash_workz> nacc: the file is empty sans comments
[15:24] <nacc> ash_workz: ok
[15:24] <k1l> joinrer: list all pacakges for packages and repos. i dont understand that
[15:24] <pabloab> ducasse, sure, but I don't have any specific package, looks like a kernel bug (core or a module), don't you think? what other package handle keyboard buffer...?
[15:25] <nacc> joinrer: for installed packages `dpkg -S <filename>`, for not-installed packages `apt-file update; apt-file search <filename>`
[15:25] <ash_workz> nacc: fwiw, everything seems to parallel my local system pretty well
[15:25] <k1l> joinrer: look if "apt-cache policy pacakgename" is what you want
[15:26] <joinrer> so there are four commands, thx, k1l apt-cache policy only says whether it's installed or not, so not that. as i said there are 4 commands, two for each case
[15:26] <ash_workz> nacc: also, fwiw, I appear to have failed to install postgresql-contrib
[15:27] <k1l> joinrer: dpkg and apt-* are a lot older than archlinux at all. and they used to be used in a different way than today. there is the plan to better group most of the apt-* into the new apt command.
[15:27] <ducasse> pabloab: kernel - unlikely, x server - more likely. can't tell you more than that.
[15:27] <nacc> joinrer: there is some overlap, as if a pacakge is installed, `dpkg -L` and `apt-file list` will both work.
[15:27] <nacc> joinrer: also, those both simply reflect the packaging. You can post-install manually delete or create or move files, and they won't be tracked
[15:28] <nacc> ash_workz: what version of ubuntu? did you just install postgres today? i can try and reproduce in a container
[15:28] <nacc> ash_workz: and/or what specifically did you install
[15:28] <k1l> joinrer: for updating the packagelists and install those update you run "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt (full-)upgrade". you can install .deb pacakges with apt too: sudo apt install /path/to/some.deb.
[15:28] <furkan__> sa millet
[15:29] <furkan__> hi
[15:29] <ash_workz> 16.04 | postgres 9.5, I installed it on the server in question yesterday, but the server wasn't configured initially by myself
[15:29] <ash_workz> nacc ^
[15:29] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, give me a sec to spin that up
[15:30] <ash_workz> nacc: I would think that whatever this is has to do with the initial configuration as my local system is running 16.04 too and that works just fine
[15:30] <nacc> ash_workz: `apt install postgresql-9.5` ?
[15:30] <k1l> joinrer: actually, apt works with "apt policy packagename" and "apt show packagename" too.
[15:31] <k1l> joinrer: so its getting a lot closer to the pacman where you have to remember all the options to be run with, too :)
[15:31] <bumbar2> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and it seems to have frozen (can't open anything, can't switch sessions with ctrl alt f1), but I can still move the mouse
[15:32] <ash_workz> nacc: I used `apt-get install postgresql` `apt-get install postgresql-client` and it defaulted to 9.5
[15:32] <bumbar2> Ssh is sadly not running, anything else I can try other than hard reboot?
[15:33] <nacc> ash_workz: ok
[15:33] <joinrer> sudo apt-file update
[15:33] <joinrer> sudo: apt-file: command not found
[15:33] <nacc> joinrer: then install it.
[15:33] <k1l> joinrer: that is a totally wrong command
[15:34] <nacc> joinrer: and also you don't need sudo
[15:34] <ducasse> bumbar2: hold down ctrl+alt+print screen, then press r,e,i,s,u,b with ~2 seconds between each keypress
[15:34] <ducasse> bumbar2: that should reboot your system
[15:34] <nacc> ash_workz: just for sanity, `psql --version` and `/usr/lib/postgresql/9.5/bin/psql --version` emit the same thing, right?
[15:35] <ash_workz> ducasse: wtf, what an elaborate sequence
[15:35] <k1l> joinrer: ah wait. there is an update for apt-file. but that is not installed as standard.
[15:35] <EriC^^> !reisub | ash_workz
[15:35] <k1l> joinrer: any reason you want to run that?
[15:36] <ash_workz> nacc: psql --version yields the same error
[15:36] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, that's very strange, it does not on my system (with no db installed yet)
[15:36] <ducasse> EriC^^: didn't know there was a trigger - thanks :)
[15:36] <EriC^^> ducasse: :)
[15:36] <nacc> ash_workz: i would suggest, because i don't know why it's happening; purge postgresql* and then reinstall them
[15:36] <nacc> ash_workz: presuming you haven't yet configured the db
[15:36] <ash_workz> nacc: doesn't fail on my local system either
[15:36] <vlt> On most systems I sed in the last years sysrq B was disabled :-/
[15:36] <ash_workz> nacc: too late
[15:36] <bumbar2> ducasse, it worked, thanks. But I was hoping to avoid reboot :D
[15:36] <ash_workz> :P
[15:36] <vlt> *used
[15:37] <joinrer> nacc I have to install apt-file ?
[15:37] <nacc> joinrer: not installed by default, yet.
[15:37] <nacc> *yes
[15:37] <joinrer> ok
[15:37] <ducasse> bumbar2: for the future, you might want to enable ctrl+alt+backspace to kill the x server
[15:37] <k1l> joinrer: its not the standard to use that. what are you trying to do?
[15:37] <joinrer> but what is the equivalent of that using apt ? apt search , and ?
[15:38] <pabloab> ducasse, thank you very much! JFTR I add this question to gather more information before I file a bug report: http://askubuntu.com/questions/881616/keyboard-buffer-issue-with-diacritics-dead-keys
[15:38] <k1l> joinrer: i ask because you seem to forcefully try to do things the arch way, where the ubuntu way might be easier on ubuntu :)
[15:38] <nacc> k1l: joinrer wants to a) search for a pakcage containing a specific file; and b) to list all files in a package
[15:38] <nacc> k1l: when said packages may or may not be installed
[15:38] <nacc> k1l: afaict, apt doesn't support that, but apt-file does
[15:38] <joinrer> nacc yes, your listening skills are improving, so can I do that without apt-file ?
[15:39] <nacc> joinrer: don't be snide.
[15:39] <k1l> joinrer: asking for help and mocking the helpers is not the ubuntu way :/
[15:40] <ducasse> joinrer: afaik you'll need apt-file to list all files of packages in repo, so no
[15:40] <nacc> joinrer: i believe apt-file is necessary, as well. Unless you only care about installed pacakges, in which case dpkg is sufficient
[15:41] <bumbar> ducasse, have it enabled now, hopefully i'll remember it next time ^^
[15:42] <ducasse> bumbar: it doesn't always work, and then you need the reisub thing. easier to remember as 'busier' backwards.
[15:42] <k1l> joinrer: apt got a "apt list" which can display several things. yu might want to read the manpage on that and see if that works
[15:43] <bumbar> ducasse, cool, thanks again
[15:43] <nacc> k1l: iirc, `apt list` is more like `dpkg-query --list` which has to do with status, not contents
[15:44] <nacc> k1l: and apt specifically mentions apt-file for these use-cases :/
[15:44] <k1l> nacc: apt list got --all-versions  which i interpret as beeing able to work on all repos
[15:44] <nacc> k1l: right, but again, that just lists versions of packages, not contents
[15:45] <k1l> ok
[15:45] <nacc> k1l: to me, apt combines most of apt-get and apt-cache into one command, but apt-file is still separate
[15:45] <nacc> dunno if that's in their longterm plans to consolidate too
[15:45] <k1l> would make sense imho
[15:46] <nacc> agreed
[15:47] <joinrer> so dpkg is for installed packages, and apt is for non installed packages ?
[15:47] <nacc> joinrer: not entirely
[15:47] <k1l> joinrer: no
[15:47] <k1l> joinrer: as i said, apt is a new command grouping other older commands into one.
[15:48] <ducasse> joinrer: dpkg gets it's info from local sources, apt gets it from the repos and caches it. aiui.
[15:48] <nacc> joinrer: in the context of your specific question, then yes that separation of tasks is correct (but apt-file can also be used for installed pacakges)
[15:48] <nacc> joinrer: but generally, no that is not an accurate statement
[15:49] <k1l> ducasse: apt also replaces dpkg in some way.
[15:51] <joinrer> k1l ubuntu's package management is  a real mess
[15:51] <nacc> joinrer: it's 100% not.
[15:51] <joinrer> everything is so unorganised
[15:51] <nacc> joinrer: that you don't understand it, or it seems confusing, does not make it a mess.
[15:51] <joinrer> it's not pretty at least
[15:52] <ioria> joinrer,  what you need exactly ?
[15:52] <k1l> joinrer: i told you why it is the way it is.
[15:53] <joinrer> ioria nacc told me sufficient things today. k1l no you didn't if it's old , it should have more time , and scope for improvement
[15:53] <joinrer> I have been doing ubuntu for about a year now
[15:54] <joinrer> and still don't know the basics, see with pacman I just learn it rapidly, and in just three months or so!
[15:54] <k1l> joinrer: you are free to provide a better working setup :)
[15:55] <joinrer> ubuntu is great for novices, but for power users like me arch isthe way, but vpn doesn't work so I shifted to ubuntu instead, incompatibility issues
[15:55] <joinrer> back to square one!
[15:55] <k1l> joinrer: :/
[15:56] <enyc> joinrer: hrrm add a loyer of virtualization-fun/complexity ;-)
[15:56] <therecluse26> ls
[15:56] <enyc> joinrer: and have mix fo systems =)
[15:56] <joinrer> yeah ubuntu is great don't get me wrong enyc I have no idea what you mean
[15:57] <joinrer> yeah, qemu i like that, i don't use virtualbox
[15:57] <nacc> joinrer: you are free to your opinion. Don't assert it as fact.
[15:58] <joinrer> I just like the old fashioned cli way for most things, but when I came here, i see I can't just add Terminus font to the .Xresources, yeh colors do work, but the size doesn't for some reason, as i lime Uxterm or rxvt
[15:58] <joinrer> virtualbox is nottorious for it's memory leaks, that 's a fact for sure
[15:59] <LinStatSDR> o/
[15:59] <joinrer> URrxvt.font: xft:Terminus:size=24 Why doesn't it work ?
[15:59] <joinrer> I am on 32 bit
[16:00] <joinrer> I mean how do i know the legal size name ?
[16:00] <joinrer> which is mentioned some where in the files ?
[16:00] <joinrer> I think I got the wrong name of the font ? I did install terminus
[16:01] <joinrer> I installed xfonts-terminus package
[16:02] <joinrer> so how do i know the fonts name ?
[16:08] <ducasse> joinrer: that font definition is sane, so i think you have some other problem.
[16:09] <keith_beebop> does anyone know the address of the remote control app, so someone can log into your machine?
[16:11] <roasted_> keith_beebop: desktop sharing?
[16:11] <cbugg> TeamViewer, LogMeIn or another?
[16:11] <keith_beebop> yeah someone used it to log into my box and fixed it
[16:12] <keith_beebop> not a sharing app but a remote control
[16:12] <roasted_> keith_beebop: teamviewer provides the ID/pass right on the screen. Something like desktop sharing would require more work, router/forwarding wise for VNC use.
[16:12] <pavlos> nomachine, vnc, remmina, xrdp
[16:12] <keith_beebop> yep thats it teamview
[16:12] <keith_beebop> thanks
[16:12] <ash_workz> nacc: did I already mention what my problem was?
[16:13] <ash_workz> (or the solution, I guess)
[16:13] <nacc> ash_workz: i think so? psql (/usr/bin/psql) doesn't work, right?
[16:13] <nacc> ash_workz: and using hte direct path works
[16:13] <cbugg> keith_beebop: np
[16:13] <ash_workz> nacc: oh, no I mean, I figured out what the problem was that caused ^ that problem
[16:14] <ash_workz> nacc: ie: I figured out what the *cause* was
[16:14] <nacc> ash_workz: oh what was it?
[16:14] <ash_workz> nacc: the postgresql.conf being used is not in the right location
[16:14] <nacc> ash_workz: ah
[16:15] <ash_workz> nacc: I was having problems, woes in fact; with getting postgres up using these faster drives
[16:15] <nacc> ash_workz: was that .conf done manually then?
[16:17] <ash_workz> nacc: there were manual changes to it; I just assumed that `mv postgresql.conf{,.bak}` `cp /old/postgresql.conf /path/to/postgresql.conf` was going to work just fine
[16:17] <ash_workz> nacc: I was later told that I should have used pg_createcluster
[16:17] <nacc> ash_workz: ah ok
[16:17] <nacc> ash_workz: so it was working, you just has a misconfigure postgres?
[16:17] <nacc> ash_workz: and for some reason, one command checks it and one doesn't?
[16:19] <ash_workz> nacc: I don't quite get it, but in essence, the wrapper was looking for a default data directory where a db had not been initialized; so the  wrapper failed.
[16:19] <ash_workz> nacc: but the absolute path by passes the wrapper
[16:20] <nacc> ash_workz: right, so it was a red herring, it sounds like
[16:20] <nacc> and i believe you're never supposed to use the direct path (generically, for your own knowledge)
[16:20] <ash_workz> nacc: (which resulted in 'Error: Invalid data directory')
[16:20] <nacc> if the wrapper isn't working, it's rather serious
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, atm, I dunno if I should do anything about it
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: because _a lot_ of data is currently being imported
[16:23] <ash_workz> well
[16:23] <ash_workz> a lot for me anyway
[16:23] <ash_workz> nacc: the dump is 274G
[16:25] <ash_workz> actually, that's a more general ubuntu question, can one rely on the size metric for `ls`, I know obviously that's wrong for 'directories', but yeah...
[16:39] <adrian_1908> hello. I have a script that stars with `#!/path/command -f`. Does this mean that the lines following it are executed with the command and its argument? Because there are commands that I know wouldn't work with the -f flag, if I invoked them manually.
[16:40] <adrian_1908> *starts with
[16:43] <Southern_Gentlem> adrian google bash #!
[16:43] <amnix> I need help with something.
[16:43] <ducasse> it means that if the script is executed directly, 'command -f' will be called as the interpreter
[16:43] <ducasse> adrian_1908: ^^
[16:43] <amnix> Whenever I connect to the internet on Windows on WiFi, the internet speed's fast.
[16:44] <amnix> But on Ubuntu it's terribly slow. And I can't use Ubuntu because of this.
[16:44] <amnix> What is the problem and how can I get it fixed?
[16:44] <MrOpenSource> #
[16:45] <adrian_1908> ducasse: so if "-f" tells my command that a file follows, the whole content of the script is interpreted as a file, rather than each line being called by the command?
[16:46] <joinrer> ducasse then you install the rxvt and you will experience the same problem i bet
[16:46] <joinrer> ducasse: but how do i know the legal font name ?
[16:46] <joinrer>  and also whether it needs xft:fontname or just fontname ?
[16:46] <ducasse> joinrer: no, because i actually tested before i replied
[16:47] <joinrer> ducasse: are you on 64 bit ?
[16:47] <joinrer> So it does work for you ?
[16:47] <amnix> WiFi too slow on ubuntu, but fast on Windows. Help?
[16:47] <ducasse> joinrer: yes, but i can't see why that would have an impact
[16:47] <ducasse> !patience | amnix
[16:48] <ldsh> amnix, I think you have to look on power saving features.
[16:49] <tmerr> Hello. I understand that udev's default rules go to /lib/udev/rules.d, and user made rules should go to /etc/udev/rules.d. If I am making a package that needs to make a udev rule, which of those should I put it in?
[16:49] <amnix> ldsh: power saving features?
[16:50] <ldsh> amnix, I already experiences a difference in the wifi's efficiency when the power saving feature was at the maximum.
[16:50] <ducasse> adrian_1908: when you execute './name-of-script', the shell will run 'command -f name-of-script'
[16:50] <adrian_1908> ducasse: ok, thanks for confirming. I misunderstood how it works then.
[16:50] <ducasse> joinrer: but it works for me, yes. i use urxvt myself, although usually not with terminus.
[16:50] <ldsh> amnix, yes, you can say that you want the wifi power to be smaller when on battery for instance, this may be nice in some cases, but not always.
[16:51] <amnix> ldsh: I'm using the default settings. I just clean installed ubuntu. Shouldn't something as basic as wifi work out of the box?
[16:51] <ldsh> amnix, My way to manage the power saving feature where through tlp, but there are probably other ways.
[16:51] <ducasse> amnix: which chipset have you got? not all drivers are equally good.
[16:52] <ldsh> amnix, This is just a guess based on my personal experience. This could also be that the hardware is quite new and the manufacturer of the chip not very open platforms friendly, thus the driver not yet optimal.
[16:55] <amnix> ducasse: how can I download the proper drivers
[16:56] <ducasse> amnix: if you answer the question, we can find out.
[16:56] <amnix> ducasse: I'm not sure. How do I find out?
[16:57] <ducasse> amnix: try 'lshw -C network | grep product'
[16:58] <ducasse> amnix: then either pastebin the full output or just post the 'product' line for your chipset here
[16:58] <anacoreta_> ola
[17:00] <amnix_> ducasse: sorry i got disconnected
[17:00] <amnix_> ducasse: It's Wireless 7265.
[17:02] <ducasse> amnix_: that's intel, those drivers are usually decent. there might be a newer/better firmware, though, i'm not really sure. give me a second, i'll have a look.
[17:02] <amnix_> ducasse: Yes, please. I'd appreciate that!
[17:03] <countingdaisies> I have this application I installed on 16.04 but its telling me there's a problem with curl libraries --> http://imgur.com/a/jxmNu     sudo dpkg -l | grep curl   gives the following result -->  http://imgur.com/a/jxmNu   Is there any way to tell more precisely what the problem is?
[17:04] <nicomachus> is it even possible to install an arm version of a package on an x86_64 machine?
[17:04] <lord_daemon> How do I parse ufs2 with write permission?
[17:04] <lord_daemon> Is the freebsd partition
[17:05] <countingdaisies> sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23959332/   <--  the result of sudo dpkg -l | grep curl
[17:08] <mernilio> Greetings and ahoy fellow sailors! :-)
[17:08] <ikonia> win 7
[17:10] <mernilio> Greetings from the seven seas and the duschlander, a ship banned to cross the seas forerr
[17:10] <ducasse> amnix: found this thread, might be worth a read - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291405 also i found the latest firmares here, that might also be worth a shot - http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html
[17:10] <mernilio> we have wifi tho :-P
[17:12] <mernilio> I have a fabless for ghost ships!  They are scary!
[17:13] <mernilio> Much like ubuntu ... a disto everybody seem to like 2 years ago, but now? I dont know. I do like Ubuntu, but you have seem to lost momentum!
[17:15] <mernilio> Do we care? Not much.. There is only only one linux kernel and a lot of distros! :-)
[17:16] <CrazyTux> which is the most preferred DE among Ubuntu users?
[17:16] <ikonia> impossible to answer
[17:16] <ikonia> mernilio: I'm not sure what you're talking about to be honest, it seems like you're just saying things into the air,
[17:16] <ikonia> mernilio: do you actually need help with something ?
[17:16] <ducasse> CrazyTux: nobody's counting
[17:17] <CrazyTux> ok.  When I try to switch wireless networks, sometimes other networks don't get detected. I have to log off and log in again.
[17:18] <ikonia> CrazyTux: ok ?
[17:18] <CrazyTux> What could be the reason for this?
[17:19] <ikonia> CrazyTux: as I told you when you private messaged me, I won't offer you support any more as I don't like being lied to
[17:19] <ikonia> ask the channel
[17:19] <CrazyTux> I found Xubuntu suitable for my needs. But, sometimes I encounter such minor issues.
[17:20] <ikonia> CrazyTux: then work with people to understand and fix the problems where possible
[17:20] <mernilio> ikonia: no i dont need help, but thanks for asking!
[17:20] <CrazyTux> ok.
[17:20] <ikonia> mernilio: ok, then could you please keep the monolog out of this channel as it's a support channel please.
[17:21] <ikonia> monologue too
[17:21] <mernilio> sure, im all up for helping!
[17:21] <my_name_is_nick> mernilio:needs help finding the door
[17:21] <ikonia> mernilio: super, thank you
[17:21] <ikonia> mernilio: not helpful
[17:21] <ikonia> mernilio: sorry, not you
[17:21] <ikonia> my_name_is_nick: not helpful
[17:22] <zerous> Hi, I would like to know if there are any recommendations for nvidia driver version for 4.8.0-37 kernel for a gtx 780 ?
[17:22] <ducasse> CrazyTux: it _could_ be a bug in network manager
[17:22] <my_name_is_nick> helpfull*
[17:22] <CrazyTux> ok.
[17:23] <CrazyTux> how can I get it corrected?
[17:23] <GeForce88> whats a good customizable widget for the top status bar on unity ?
[17:23] <GeForce88> weather widget*
[17:24] <zerous> I mean I can see that there are two version available nvidia-340 & nvidia-367. I would like to know if they are really stable ?
[17:24] <zerous> s/version/versions
[17:24] <jimmy_> goto nvidia website
[17:24] <ikonia> zerous: they are stable, hence why they are in the ubuntu repos
[17:25] <jimmy_> and download
[17:25] <ikonia> do not download direct from nvidia
[17:25] <ducasse> CrazyTux: first, you need to determine whether it actually is a bug at all, and if so where the bug is (which package)
[17:25] <jimmy_> linux version
[17:25] <zerous> ikonia: so do I have to just install them ? or are there any config changes I have to make ?
[17:25] <jimmy_> why?
[17:25] <xangua> GeForce88: there's weather indicator by https://www.atareao.es/apps/my-weather-indicator-para-ubuntu/
[17:25] <ikonia> jimmy_: compatibility, maintenance and support
[17:25] <my_name_is_nick> download and compile kernel module
[17:25] <ikonia> zerous: so you need to understand which one supports your card best
[17:25] <ikonia> zerous: then install that package
[17:26] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:26] <ikonia> zerous: you may then need to build an xorg.conf for the nvdia module (depending on your setup) to tell xorg to use it
[17:26] <GeForce88> xangua,  cheers mate
[17:26] <zerous> ikonia: Is there a guide for that ?
[17:26] <ducasse> !behelpful | my_name_is_nick
[17:26] <jimmy_> @crazytux right
[17:27] <ikonia> zerous: people can help with it, first thing to do is find out which version supports your card best (normally the latter version)
[17:28] <zerous> ikonia: If I couldn't start x and just get a console, do I just purge nvidia to get back my current settings ?
[17:28] <ikonia> zerous: couldn't start X ?
[17:28] <ikonia> zerous: X org will start by default
[17:28] <zerous> ikonia: I meant DE.
[17:29] <ikonia> zerous: have you done something to stop X org from starting ?
[17:29] <zerous> ikonia: nope, but the last time I installed nvidia, I couldn't log in after reboot.
[17:29]  * my_name_is_nick thinks ists time for popcorn
[17:29] <CrazyTux> just an offtopic question. Can I install Ubuntu on my tablet? It came with android os preinstalled.
[17:29] <ikonia> my_name_is_nick: please stop with these silly questions
[17:29] <ikonia> my_name_is_nick: or comments