[01:10] <harlowja> smoser yt
[01:10] <harlowja> ah, nm, u already found my gihub boo boo
[01:10] <harlowja> lol
[01:11] <harlowja> and fixed it, lol
[01:23] <smoser> harlowja: here now. i didnt fix it. maybe someone else did. whats up?
[01:24] <harlowja> i clicked a fork button of https://github.com/shmup/miniboa/tree/master/src/miniboa and it went into the cloud-init org, lol
[01:24] <harlowja> by accident :-P
[01:24] <harlowja> i swear
[01:24] <harlowja> ha
[01:24] <harlowja> but someone seems to have wiped it (i couldn't)
[01:24] <smoser> yeah. saw chatter about that.
[01:24] <harlowja> lol
[01:24] <harlowja> oops
[01:26] <smoser> your name came up
[01:26] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1671927
[01:26] <harlowja> ya
[01:26] <harlowja> i'll get around to that, idk why others on that bug from godaddy didn't just submit the patch
[01:26] <harlowja> lol
[01:27] <harlowja> sorta odd....
[01:27] <harlowja> ah, 'That said, you wont see this bug with master or 17.1.'
[01:27] <harlowja> well nm then
[01:27] <harlowja> ha
[01:28] <harlowja> but ya, 'any recent openstack should have provided that.'
[01:29] <harlowja> sounds about right, lol
[01:29] <smoser> yeah. i'm not sure how they saw the issue. something else must have been busted.
[01:29] <smoser> they wont see the issue any more.
[01:29] <harlowja> cool
[01:29] <smoser> but i just dont understand why they were down that path.
[01:32] <harlowja> yaa, not sure, i can look into more if that config drive upload doesn't have enough
[01:33] <harlowja> cause `network_data.json` is in there
[01:33] <harlowja> https://gist.github.com/harlowja/ccd24cd802bdf54a0061a5a02e2f8e2a
[02:28] <blackboxsw> heya harlowja, yeah, we can thank mr powersj for seeing that and cleanup in github. I think he's subscribed to all new repos that show up (and has github-superhero perms to remove)
[02:29] <blackboxsw> figured if it was intentional, someone would push it again
[02:29] <blackboxsw> and then we'd have to talk about what telnet MUDs mean for cloud-init rev 17.2 :)
[17:51] <harlowja> blackboxsw :-P
[17:51] <harlowja> blackboxsw ya, thx, wrong button click
[17:52] <harlowja> i'm gonna blame microsoft, the company who made my mouse at home
[17:52] <harlowja> lol
[18:08] <smoser> someone from redmond drove to your house and released a rodent.  they hate you more than me.
[18:19] <harlowja> yup
[18:19] <harlowja> lol


[07:59] <vish> zniavre: the nautilus changes[extra pane and bunch of other stuff] landed in Lucid
[07:59] <zniavre> :o)
[07:59] <zniavre> vish what is the other stuff ?
[08:00] <zniavre> is  it rgba able now?
[08:00] <vish> zniavre: i think the RBGA and client side items landed too.. [i havent tried them though]
[08:00] <zniavre> haha ...
[08:00] <vish> bleh... nautilus feels weird now :/   they moved the zoom in the center of the toolbar buttons
[08:01] <zniavre> im so sad i can't try it with my comp > installing a small soft is already a nightmare i can't think installing a full OS
[08:01]  * vish turns off main toolbar :/
[08:02] <vish> zniavre: from the RBGA bug report is seems it has landed
[08:04] <vish> argh! two more context menu items :/   "copy to" and "move to"
[08:06] <darkmatter> vish: how many times have I told you. nautilus is a worthless and convoluted pile of **** ;)
[08:08] <vish> darkmatter: seriously... the context menu is like a takeout menu now! looks like a long list of everything i could try at some point !
[08:10] <darkmatter> vish: yes, plus if I wanted a split pane I'd use gnome commander or some other filer that does it correctly. I am REALLY starting to hate the half-hearted and careless approach to software design
[08:11] <thorwil> morning!
[08:12] <vish> hehe , now if someone wants to use the location using keyboard , they can do it _only_ with the keyboard ;)
[08:12] <thorwil> nautilus does split pane in an incorrect way?
[08:12] <vish> or i havent found a button to do it yet ;p
[08:13]  * vish starts cursing at the window!
[08:16] <thorwil> darkmatter: the currently popular approach to "design" seems to be taking a wild guess on what might be a good strategy to then run with with an implementation, talking about and tweaking details as you stumble over them
[08:17] <thorwil> vish: any news on the book cover?
[08:17] <darkmatter> thorwil: pretty much
[08:19] <darkmatter> vish: I've not seen the new context menu, so is it like a convoluted and redundant mess that does, like, copy/move with a file chooser/browse dialog while retaining copy and paste?
[08:20] <darkmatter> copy and cut*
[08:21] <thorwil> wtf: http://www.photo-editor-pro.com/
[08:22] <darkmatter> thorwil: it's GNU, deal with it :P
[08:23] <darkmatter> thorwil: I've seen worse. there was a company selling *their* office suite for $149.95 or something like that. bargain basement price for OO.o
[08:28] <vish> re
[08:28] <vish> just a sec let me get the default screenshots!
[08:36] <vish> darkmatter: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png
[08:36] <vish> thorwil: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-guest-home.F839KN%20-%20File%20Browser-1.png
[08:36] <vish> thorwil: cover this was the final versioni ended up with > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Cover.png
[08:37] <wolter> oh lord.. I hope i can disable some of those
[08:37] <wolter> like copy to and move to
[08:37] <wolter> thats so.. windows
[08:37] <darkmatter> vish: yeah. pretty much the convoluted approach I thought
[08:38] <vish> thorwil: is how they want to use it > http://imagebin.ca/view/Is-TiOI.html
[08:39] <wolter> yeah well, a bit changed
[08:39]  * vish scratches head... :/ needs to fix the "home" icon.. seems like a dwarf there ;p
[08:39] <wolter> we made the white strip in the head more triangular, the lower "beard" a bit darker, and the "Created by" is now well aligned
[08:41]  * vish bbiab
[08:41] <thorwil> i think the shape of the eye is way off. outer corner much too high/sharp
[08:42] <thorwil> wolter: do you happen to know the page size and margins for the content?
[08:43] <wolter> thorwil, well, I use the US Letter size inkscape provides
[08:43] <thorwil> wolter: the book is in US letter format?
[08:44] <wolter> thorwil, yes
[08:44] <wolter> thorwil, is it strange?
[08:45] <thorwil> wolter: i don't know how (un)common that is. there's obviously quite some variation in book formats
[08:46] <thorwil> will be fun if someone tries to print that on din a4
[08:47] <thorwil> us letter: 215.9 × 279.4 , din a4: 210 x 297 mm
[08:48] <thorwil> wolter: what's your role in the manual project?
[08:50]  * thorwil does household chores
[08:53] <wolter> thorwil, i am helping making chapter 9
[08:53] <wolter> and also making the cover
[08:53] <wolter> well, a version of it
[08:53] <wolter> and i made the lynx


[00:08] <Yoplitein> How do I boot into single-user mode on 11.04?
[00:09] <Yoplitein> Rather, how do I access the boot loader menu?
[00:11] <Myrtti> try pressing shift at boot?
[00:12] <Yoplitein> that did it. Thanks!
[01:38] <w30> Myrtti, will shift work on a "0" timeout also?
[01:41] <w30> Myrtti, I always give myself a time and remove the silent or no show or whatever so I can fix what I goof up so I haven't had to find out.
[01:50] <w30> What's precise xubuntu?
[01:50] <Unit193> !precise
[01:51] <w30> Unit193, ok, cool, thanks Unit193
[01:58] <Unit193> Yepo
[02:33] <Space-Duck> What MP3 player would you recommend for xubuntu?
[02:35] <Unit193> Well, just lookup to see if it will work, there are many. Personally I'd like something that runs !rockbox ;)
[02:37] <Space-Duck> I meant more software wise, I'm trying to decide between Amarok, Banshee, or mpg123
[02:41] <ahs3-> Space-Duck, I use gmusicbrowser which comes with xubuntu, works fine for me. and Pithos for pandora
[03:08] <Space-Duck> thanks ahs3, gmusicbrowser isn't too bad
[03:08] <puff> I just upgraded (via reinstall) from ubuntu 10.4 LTS to 11.10.  It actually seems *slower*... does somebody want to pitch me on xubuntu? :-)
[03:09] <Space-Duck> puff, I did the same and it was slower
[03:09] <Space-Duck> now I'm on xubuntu and lovin' it
[03:09] <StormStrikes> anyone got a minute to help with a nvidia driver issue?
[03:09] <puff> Harrum... what do I lose, besides the weight?
[03:09] <Space-Duck> I don't even have to install compiz, I get real transparency out of the box, its awesome
[03:10] <Space-Duck> you don't actually lose anything, as far as I know. You do get a lightly different set of apps though, some are better
[03:10] <Space-Duck> *slightly different
[03:11] <puff> If I find that I really do need a particular app, is it possible to install it?
[03:11] <puff> E.g. is it just that the default apps change or are some ubuntu apps flat-out not available?
[03:11] <Space-Duck> yep, easy good ol' apt-get
[03:11] <Space-Duck> all ubuntu apps are available as far as I know
[03:12] <puff> Cool.
[03:12] <puff> I am seriously considering this... shouldn't lose much.
[03:12] <Space-Duck> for example xubuntu comes with a crappy text editor "leafpad"
[03:12] <Space-Duck> apt-get install gedit
[03:13]  * holstein likes leafpad :/
[03:13] <Space-Duck> problem solved
[03:13] <Unit193> puff: You an install or uninstall whatever you want
[03:13] <Space-Duck> I need syntax hightlighting
[03:13] <puff> I am in the middle of a consulting contract, so I can't afford serious downtime or problems.  One of the pains I've had in the past is that my hardware (thinkpad) seems to have some major bug occur wiht each new release.  Suspend-to-ram didn't work in lucid, for example.
[03:13] <puff> Space-Duck: I use emacs :-).
[03:14] <puff> Space-Duck: Depending on what languages you use, I can't highly enough recommend Intellij IDEA, and now they have a free Community Edition.
[03:15] <Space-Duck> me and Java don't get along so well.
[03:16] <Space-Duck> I do a lot of web programming, and gedit has the plugins I'm used to Nano, and VI are always there for backup.
[03:16] <Space-Duck> I've never actually used straight up emacs
[03:18] <puff> Space-Duck: Try it sometime, you'll like it :-).
[03:18] <Space-Duck> heh, I'm installing it now
[03:18] <puff> intellij IDEA has some support for PHP too.
[03:19] <puff> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/php_editor.html
[03:19] <Space-Duck> I'm sure it's great, I just run away from anything that says "Java"
[03:19] <puff> Nano is emacs-flavored, isn't it?
[03:19] <Space-Duck> I think it is
[03:19] <puff> Heh... well IDEA is proof that you can code an app in java and have it not suck.
[03:20] <puff> Mind you, it's a heavyweight app, so you need enough horsepower to use it.  It's basically dynamically recompiling your code every time you type.
[03:20] <Space-Duck> I had to make a android app the other day and I was pissed I had to install eclispe. May this would be a good alternative
[03:20] <puff> Okay... if you get too frustrated, "escape-x vi-mode"
[03:20] <puff> Yeah, intellij has android support built in.
[03:21] <puff> Er, if you get too frustrated in emacs, "escape-x vi-mode" will put you in vi-mode.
[03:21] <Space-Duck> I deep in the emacs man as we speak
[03:23] <Space-Duck> You should give xubuntu a try. It's now in my top 5 for distros
[03:24] <Space-Duck> You get all the ubuntu goodness, without Unity
[03:26] <puff> I am seriously thinking abou tit.
[03:26] <puff> It's not that I'm in love with the old UI or have some partiuclar problem with the new UI, but I really dont' need to waste time, right now, relearning a bunch of stuff.
[03:28] <puff> Though there are some concrete things I don't like about unity. It appears that in unity, when I maximize a window, it obscures the desktop menu bar.
[03:28] <puff> Also, I miss certain gnome apps, and the alt-tab feature seems to have something weird about its logic, I never seem to get the window I want.
[03:28] <puff> Er, gnome applets.
[03:29] <puff> But, if I'm going to miss them, maybe I should get something for my pain, like faster performance :-).
[04:01] <ahs3-> Space-Duck, I recommend trying medit for your text editor. its very similar to kate. except it uses gtk
[05:20] <DoverOs> grub2 didn't update now it boots to windows :P
[05:22] <holstein> DoverOs: you want the wiki page on how to reinstall with a live CD?
[05:22] <DoverOs> that's the only way?
[05:22] <DoverOs> cause i can do that
[05:23] <DoverOs> ok
[09:42] <nikolam> I can not report a bug using ubuntu-bug : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/729808/
[09:43] <Sysi> you need firefox (you need to file feature request/bug)
[09:43] <nikolam> I have firefox. Installed it from repos yesterday. it is 3. something
[09:44] <nikolam> 3.6.25
[09:44] <nikolam> 3.6.23
[09:45] <nikolam> bug I want is that xfce4-weather-plugin does not update weather since yesterday in Xubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit
[09:50] <nikolam> ui.py is from jockey-common package.
[09:51] <nikolam> python-apport in lucid
[11:11] <user123456789> xubuntu 11.10 cant connect with t-mobile
[11:13] <TheSheep> you installed xubuntu on your cellphone? :)
[11:14]  * TheSheep is connected to t-mobile right now
[11:14] <user123456789> no, it is a desktop computer. the modem works on my other pc with 11.04 well.
[11:31] <nikolam> I use wvdial inside screen to connect also to 3G HDSPA wireless with USB modem.
[11:31] <nikolam> I was wondering how to automate it so that I do not need to do it every time.
[11:31] <nikolam> Network manager is unreliable and not even displayed anymore . 10.04LTS 64bit
[11:51] <user123456789> it seems that 11.10 has some trouble in Modem-Manger
[11:51] <user123456789> also, networkmanager works reliable in 11.04 with gsm
[12:01] <SaaMmY> hey guys I was installing xubuntu 11.10 and in the while I have to choose my picture account the button continue is blocked
[12:05] <chebureque> hi there!
[12:06] <chebureque> could anyone help me solve the problem with copying files on a usb stick?
[12:07] <Sysi> no if you don't tell the actual problem
[12:07] <chebureque> i'll tel)
[12:07] <chebureque> after connecting a usb flash, my system automatically mounts it, then i'm trying to write a film on it (both using mc and thunar), and every time my usb remounts, failing the copy process
[12:08] <chebureque> xubuntu 11.10
[12:08] <chebureque> on 11.04 there was same problem
[12:08] <user123456789> ist the file greater than 2 GB ?
[12:08] <chebureque> nope
[12:08] <Sysi> in what format is the drive?
[12:08] <chebureque> fat32
[12:08] <nikolam> Maybe file system on drive needs fsck
[12:08] <Sysi> have you tried reformatting it?
[12:09] <Sysi> special characters in name of the file?
[12:09] <chebureque> yep, actually i made it hundred times
[12:09] <chebureque> nope
[12:09] <user123456789> when you tell remounting, is there a cable between stick and computer ?
[12:09] <chebureque> nope
[12:09] <user123456789> it shouldnt remount!
[12:10] <Sysi> does it work on other computers? do other sticks work on that one?
[12:10] <chebureque> i can show you what rsync wrote
[12:10] <chebureque> problem is not in stick - that's 100%
[12:10] <Sysi> use paste.ubuntu.com if it's several lines
[12:10] <chebureque> and not in files i'm copying
[12:11] <chebureque> paste ubuntu& i'm sorry, i'm a newbi to linix and irc and don' know howto)
[12:11] <knome> !pastebin
[12:13] <chebureque> http://paste.ubuntu.com/729912/
[12:16] <chebureque> that's the second file i tried to copy, first copied normally
[12:18] <chebureque> typically copying a ~1.5 GB file takes me a 10-14 tries, all that time usm stick remounts
[12:19] <Sysi> same with thunar?
[12:19] <chebureque> not sure but i think that problem is in thunar file manager
[12:19] <chebureque> yep
[12:19] <chebureque> thunar, mc, rsync - all the same problem
[12:20] <chebureque> after remounting stick opens in thunar
[12:20] <user123456789> can you see something with command dmesg on commandline ?
[12:20] <Sysi> have you tried rsync with filename in correct format? :P
[12:21] <chebureque> sysi yep - the same
[12:21] <chebureque> user
[12:21] <chebureque> dmesg - i don't know what's that)
[12:22] <user123456789> try it, just on the command line!
[12:22] <user123456789> it shows you the system messages.
[12:24] <chebureque> aaaand?)
[12:24] <chebureque> what should i search there&)
[12:25] <user123456789> you should see something about your device, i.e. sdb or sdc or sdd in that log.
[12:26] <chebureque> there's a plenty of sdb there)))
[12:26] <chebureque> paste it&
[12:26] <chebureque> ?
[12:28] <chebureque> http://paste.ubuntu.com/729919/
[12:30] <user123456789> i would try to repartition and reformat it with NTFS
[12:30] <Myrtti> I would try with other USB sticks
[12:31] <chebureque> that won't help, i've formated it in ntfs - same sh*t
[12:31] <user123456789> does someone know how to debug modem-manager or network-manager ?
[12:31] <Sysi> chebureque: so you've tested that drive on other computers?
[12:31] <chebureque> yep
[12:32] <chebureque> stick works great on others
[12:32] <Myrtti> others being what?
[12:32] <chebureque> i'm using it to watch video on dvd, everything works fine
[12:32] <user123456789> i meant: re-partition it also.
[12:32] <SaaMmY1> I can't install xubuntu... in the while I was choosing an existing picture I choosen yet but the continue button does not be active... and I can't go forward to continue installation
[12:32] <chebureque> user - i made it)
[12:33] <Myrtti> chebureque: what is "others", Windows, other Linux distro, other laptop?
[12:33] <Sysi> chebureque: but do other drives work with your xubuntu?
[12:33] <chebureque> myrtti - others are pc and laptop
[12:33] <chebureque> windows, ubuntu
[12:34] <chebureque> sysi - external usb drive works fine
[12:42] <user123456789> chebureque: i had the same stick, i saw in your log. mine was defective too. it is defective, thats all. try another stick!
[12:43] <user123456789> JetFlash Transcend 8GB
[12:44] <chebureque> don't think so)
[15:25] <rodney0103> Espero poder compartir y recibir experiencias con los miembros de esta comunidad
[15:28] <holstein> rodney0103: try #ubuntu-es
[15:29] <holstein> [#ubuntu-es] Bienvenidos al canal oficial de soporte Ubuntu en español
[15:30] <GridCube> :D rodney0103 que bueno, :) te recomiendo ir a #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-es-offtopic :)
[15:31] <rodney0103> if you did thanks for your help
[15:35] <pahan> Can anybody advise theme which supports GTK3? Somethink like clearlooks?
[15:36] <GridCube> the only good gtk3 theme outhere is the one that comes default with xubuntu, greybird
[15:36] <Sysi> you could try zukitwo, though it has some bugs
[15:38] <pahan> I tried Zukitwo but it low contrast
[15:39] <GridCube> d
[15:39] <pahan> Is it possible configure it by gui?
[15:41] <Sysi> no
[15:50] <marion> good morning/afternoon/evening depending on where ever you are
[15:51] <pahan> good evening
[15:52] <marion> so for some reason after i went from 11.04 to 11.10 i have to choose a previous version of linux when i boot
[16:07] <marion> ok grid now what
[16:08] <GridCube> now when you reboot the current OS is the first on the list :D
[16:09] <GridCube> or it should be
[16:09] <GridCube> :D
[16:10] <marion> no its showing me 3.0.0 as the first on the list and i ned 2.6.38 to be first
[16:11] <GridCube> oh
[16:12] <GridCube> but you are on the 2.6.38 now?
[16:12] <marion> yes i am
[16:12] <GridCube> and sudo update-grub placed the other first
[16:12] <GridCube> i see
[16:13] <GridCube> well
[16:13] <GridCube> !grub
[17:01] <anggelk> o,o
[17:03] <TheSheep> anggelk: yes?
[17:05] <anggelk> does anyone know why the installation says "apt configuration fail"
[17:07] <anggelk> >,<
[17:07] <anggelk> anyone speak spanish?
[17:07] <anggelk> :o
[17:09] <anggelk> .__:
[17:40] <dr_jkl> um
[17:41] <dr_jkl> so linux isn't detecting my phone when i plug it in. it's a motorola droid 3. any ideas?
[17:43] <TheSheep> dr_jkl: how should it detect it?
[17:44] <dr_jkl> like, my phone should ask if it should be a USB drive or just charge
[17:44] <TheSheep> does it appaer in lsusb?
[17:44] <TheSheep> do you get anything in dmesg when you connect it?
[17:45] <dr_jkl> [14537.564201] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[17:46] <dr_jkl> it only occurs on this hardware and only when i'm running linux. in something like tinyxp (et al.) i don't have this problem
[17:46] <dr_jkl> so i know it's not the phone
[17:48] <TheSheep> did you try googling for that?
[17:49] <dr_jkl> i am currently
[17:49] <dr_jkl> :)
[17:49] <TheSheep> awesome
[17:49] <puff> I read here that I can install the xubuntu desktop by simply apt-getting the xubuntu-desktop package.  How safe is this if I want to try it?
[17:50] <puff> e.g. how easy is it to back out, or switch between them?
[17:50] <TheSheep> puff: you just select whether you want ubuntu or xubuntu at the login screen
[17:50] <puff> Cool.
[17:55] <tronqix> I'm using xubuntu 11.10 on a netbook. I would like to change the look of the desktop icons (ex. with correct word wrap). Need a hint where to start looking for configuration
[17:57] <TheSheep> tronqix: I don't think you can control the wrapping in config
[17:58] <tronqix> hm...
[18:00] <tronqix> as in the config panel exist only the option to control the font and size of the icons...
[18:00] <tronqix> i hoped there is another place to change it like the gconf-editor on GNOME
[18:06] <GlemSom> I've used the "Universal USB Installer <IP_ADDRESS>" to "burn" the xubuntu ISO to a 4GB USB Key. The OS seems to start fine - but, it seems it's not quite supporting my dual-screen setup. (on a nVidia 560 card). When it starts, my primary screen just says resolution not supported - and then I never get any further... Can I force a resolution on one - or both - of my screens ?
[18:08] <TheSheep> GlemSom: you use the free or the proprietary nvidia driver?
[18:09] <GlemSom> TheSheep, I did not choose any drivers. I use what-ever the xubuntu ISO is configured for.
[18:09] <TheSheep> ok, the it's either the free one or a fallback to vesa
[18:10] <TheSheep> can you see anything on the other screen?
[18:11] <GlemSom> No, my other screen is just blank... It's worth to mention I tried kubuntu too - which actually showed me a graphical window (where I could choose to either "try" or to "install") - but, after I choose "try", I ended up the the same situation... With two blank screens.
[18:11] <GlemSom> The ruglar ubuntu seemed to work fine.. But, I honestly Unity is not ready for dual-screen setups!!
[18:13] <TheSheep> GlemSom: ok, so if you press alt+ctrl+f1 you should get to a text-only terminal
[18:13] <TheSheep> GlemSom: you can go back to the graphical one with alt+ctrl+f7 (or f3)
[18:14] <TheSheep> GlemSom: there you can log in and give it commands
[18:14] <GlemSom> TheSheep, I tried that - but, it did not work.... I never got the text-only terminal
[18:14] <GlemSom> Can I at bootup force text-mode, instead of framebuffer ?
[18:14] <TheSheep> is this the only graphics card in your system?
[18:14] <TheSheep> sure
[18:14] <GlemSom> Yes, it's the only one.
[18:14] <TheSheep> if you hold down shift while booting
[18:15] <TheSheep> you will have a menu where you can edit the boot options
[18:15] <GlemSom> This goes for the Xubuntu LiveCD too right ?
[18:15] <TheSheep> on livecd you cqan edit those options after pressing f4 in the first menu
[18:15] <TheSheep> if I remember correctly
[18:16] <GlemSom> Ok, can the proprietary nVidia driver be installed from the commandline ?
[18:22] <TheSheep> GlemSom: I think so
[18:22] <TheSheep> GlemSom: apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:24] <GlemSom> aha, I will give that a try - thanks! :)
[18:25] <TheSheep> with sudo, of course
[18:35] <drc> Anyone else experiencing unmute problems with the sound icon in the indicator plugin and multimedia keys (11.10)? It mutes fine, the pop-upubble shows unmuted, but the I have to unmute from the icon menu for sound to work again. This started immediately upon fresh install of 11.10, it did not happen in 11.04, or in recent LMDE-xfce or Salix-xfce installs.
[18:36] <Guest47875> Hello =D
[18:36] <Guest47875> Hello Guys..
[18:37] <Sysi> drc: same sound setup? (expecially pulseaudio)
[18:38] <drc> Sysi: That I'm not sure...what ever the default setups are in all three.  But the same machine, yes.
[18:38] <Guest47875> who is <Sysi> drc: same sound setup? (expecially pulseaudio)
[18:38] <Sysi> drc: well, 11.04 and 11.10 should both have pulseaudio by default
[18:39] <Guest47875> oks.. understand now.. Sysi and drc are a users =D
[18:39] <dr_jkl>  yeah, still the same problem even after a restart of the phone and the laptop
[18:40] <drc> Sysi: That's what I thought...not sure about LMDE and Salix.  Wodner what happened in the 11.04->11.04 transistion?
[18:43] <drc> There <was> a registered bug about the indicator plugin not refreshing, but it seems that it has had a fix committed, I thought this was related, but "my" problem persists
[18:45] <jcfp> drc: had that problem until I removed pulseaudio
[18:47] <drc> jcfp: Thanks. Let me search on pulse audio bugs before I remove it.
[18:54] <GlemSom> I gave up trying to get xubuntu to start with dual-screen... So, I've disabled one screen... And I can see xubuntu starts now.
[18:55] <GlemSom> Though, I noticed it's impossible to disable framebuffer. When trying "live vga=normal fb=false nosplash debug", the initrd will launch with FB disabled, but shortly after that, it get's re-enabled again... And sadly forces a resolution one of my screens will not accept.
[18:55] <drc> jcfp: Thanks that fixed it...of course it got rid of the icon also, but so what? :)
[18:56] <jcfp> drc: I do have an icon, may need to add it separately
[18:56] <jcfp> "mixer"
[18:57] <drc> jcfp: yeah, thought of that, but I decided I din't need it...the MM buttons all work :)
[18:59] <jcfp> drc: did you come across a reported bug in pulseaudio about this
[19:00] <drc> jcfp: Not in a real quick search...
[19:02] <LocanK2> \help
[19:03] <Sysi> other slash
[19:13] <LocanK2> #Xubuntu
[19:58] <MarionV> hey holstein what was that command to be able to show my xubuntu version again?
[19:58] <Sysi> lsb_release
[19:59] <MarionV> ok so i am up to date. does the kernel i use make a difference?
[20:00] <Sysi> yes
[20:00] <MarionV> damn i need to get my graphics card to work then with the 3.0.0 kernel
[20:07] <MarionV> damn i cant find anything on the radeon issues
[20:12] <Vabigoon> hi
[20:13] <Vabigoon> does anyone know if there is any good automatic support for optimus in newest xubuntu?
[20:13] <TheSheep> optimus?
[20:13] <TheSheep> like optimus prime? ;)
[20:13] <Vabigoon> Nope :D
[20:13] <Vabigoon> like nvidia optimus
[20:14] <Vabigoon> some shitty graphic card switcher on notebooks
[20:56] <GridCube> :(
[20:57] <GridCube> the software center decided to stop working
[21:01] <puff> With xfce, it appears that the "suspend-on-closing-lid" setting is not turned on.  How do I turn it off?
[21:01] <puff> Er, turn it on.
[21:01] <GridCube> it should be
[21:01] <GridCube> i just turned that off :P
[21:02] <puff> Where?
[21:02] <GridCube> configuration > energy adminstration >
[21:02] <puff> Where is configuration?
[21:03] <GridCube> the mouse logo > 3rd option from the top
[21:03] <GridCube> first option from the top
[21:03] <puff> Mouse logo?
[21:03] <GridCube> xubuntu
[21:03] <GridCube> its a mouse logo
[21:03] <puff> Upper-left corner of the screen
[21:03] <puff> ?
[21:04] <GridCube> i guess
[21:04] <puff> It's kinda small, can't tell what it is.
[21:04] <GridCube> :D make it bigger
[21:04] <puff> Okay, I should point out that I'm using xubuntu via aptitude, onto oneiric which I installed last night.
[21:04] <GridCube> that doesnt really matter, if you installed xubuntu-desktop you are using xubuntu
[21:05] <puff> third from the top says "Settings"
[21:05] <GridCube> yes that
[21:05] <puff> Settings/Settings Manager brings up a folder full of icons, one's named Power Manager.
[21:05] <GridCube> :)
[21:05] <GridCube> thats the one
[21:06] <puff> Okay, now I have a dialog that says (on the left) General, On AC, On Battery, Extended.
[21:07] <GridCube> :) its pretty selfexplaining from then on
[21:07] <puff> Ah... under "On AC", When laptop lid is closed... got it.
[21:08] <puff> Hm, I wonder if the screensaver bug I found on oneiric will still be here.
[21:34] <SGaG> Hi
[21:35] <SGaG> how can i do a session autologin? i dont find the option in google or xfce help
[21:36] <GridCube> on 11.10?
[21:38] <SGaG> yes
[21:39] <GridCube> you have to manually edit the lightdm.conf
[21:40] <SGaG> lightdm.conf?
[21:40] <GridCube> Yes
[21:40] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864527
[21:41] <GridCube> let me find a link
[21:43] <GridCube> that link Should work
[21:43] <SGaG> ok, lets see
[21:43] <madnick> autologin-user-timeout=0 (btw a timeout wont work)
[21:43] <SGaG> restart session and test
[21:43] <SGaG> see you
[21:44] <dr_jkl> i have no life...
[21:45] <Sysi> having nolife is better than nothing
[21:51] <SGaG> do it! thx
[22:07] <anggelk> hey guys how can i canfigurate apt cause the configuration fail when i install Xubuntu
[22:09] <anggelk> x,x
[22:10] <knome> what do you mean with "fail"? can you tell the actual problem, and people will help if they are online and know the answer
[22:10] <anggelk> :D thx
[22:10] <anggelk> well
[22:11] <anggelk> idk if its a problem, but the thing is that when i was installing xubuntu
[22:12] <anggelk> the instaler send a msg : "atp configuration fail"
[22:12] <anggelk> i accept and then the nstallation continues
[22:13] <knome> anggelk, if everything works...
[22:13] <anggelk> x) it works good
[22:14] <anggelk> but im just worried for that msg
[22:14] <anggelk> i aidk if i have to configurate apt manually
[22:14] <anggelk> an idk*
[22:15] <anggelk> im new on xubuntu BTW
[22:16] <knome> anggelk, unless something doesn't work, don't worry
[22:18] <anggelk> ohh ok ^^ thx :p
[23:27] <tjriggins> hi xubuntu crew. im having some trouble with a PCI wifi card on a fresh install of 11.10