[19:31] <jdobrien> RyuGuns, this is a wild guess...did you use compiz config? I just did that and I have the same issue
[19:31] <escott> psilo23, but in order to be on the machine he has to run a program, so he has to have access to /usr/bin or a copied version of /usr/bin
[19:31] <psilo23> i just gave some random lad ssh access to my box thats why i am asking lol
[19:31] <RyuGuns> I did use compiz config.
[19:31] <FTK> hey everyone. need some tips to change info on gnome-system-monitor. changed in /etc/issue and /etc/lsb-release, but it revert back to original after a reboot
[19:31] <RyuGuns> I was trying to get back the compiz effects. :\
[19:31] <jdobrien> RyuGuns, I am trying to figure out how to fix it...
[19:31] <escott> psilo23, see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-chroot-ssh-env.en.html
[19:31] <psilo23> there is nothing on that box though but just was wondering it, i think im gonna need to dive into admin linux
[19:31] <RyuGuns> rm -rf .gnome .compiz
[19:31] <RyuGuns> maybe?
[19:32] <masquerad> psilo23, what is their purpose in logging into your machine?
[19:32] <psilo23> masquerad: to use as a ssh tunnel to bypass the proxy at work
[19:32] <jdobrien> RyuGuns, that seems a little strong :)
[19:32] <RyuGuns> Right now I am using KDE, I'll be back to tell you if it works, okay?
[19:32] <monstaRtruck> did a fresh ubuntu 11 install, additional drivers say device is activated but not in use
[19:32] <escott> psilo23, in your case the easiest thing might be to see if you can configure your server to allow that user to execute one and only one command which is the ssh command to the final location
[19:32] <monstaRtruck> !!!!!!!!
[19:32] <noahnoah> Hi.  Looks like a combination of a bios update and disabling cpufreq has me working at the correct speed.
[19:32] <psilo23> since ubuntu 11.10 im in love with LXDE
[19:33] <Can> psilo23: agreed
[19:33] <noahnoah> However, I'd like to benchmark this.  Is there an easy way to measure how fast I'm actually running?
[19:33] <csdserver> having problems with 11.10 and don't know what's going on - certain programs (canonical provided) will fail to launch without an error code.  top doesn't even list them as running processes.
[19:33] <psilo23> escott: yeah i will check that later tonight i guess :)
[19:33] <psilo23> thanks for your help bro
[19:33] <psilo23> Can: Did you try the Unity desktop also ?
[19:34] <masquerad> psilo23, why do you need to let them actually login just to pass their traffic through a tunnel?
[19:34] <Can> psilo23: ya i dont like it and my lappy cant run it very well lxde is much cleaner and runs better
[19:34] <lane> does anybody know where firefox is storing its cache?
[19:34] <psilo23> masquerad: because thats the easiest way to setup a ssh proxy tunnel with putty
[19:34] <Guest41404> hello
[19:34] <lane> i know it's in .mozilla/firefox/bla/Cache
[19:34] <psilo23> Can: My pc can run Unity, but i think its too much
[19:34] <lane> man... hmm.
[19:34] <escott> psalden, this also a set of helpful links http://stackoverflow.com/questions/402615/how-to-restrict-ssh-users-to-a-predefined-set-of-commands-after-login
[19:34] <psilo23> If i want a desktop to slow up my pc i could switch back to windows
[19:34] <kkamal> Hello, I can no more sudo, and I lost root pw what can i do ????
[19:35] <Viper550> Okay, how exactly would I increase the vertical padding on menubars? I switched to gnome-shell cause I couldn't stand Unity, but the menubars seem thin to me
[19:35] <Can> psilo23: 7 year old laptop mainly using it for school work and unity just makes it chug
[19:35] <psilo23> Can: yeah i also installed Ubuntu 11.10 with LXDE at the netbook of my stepdad
[19:35] <psilo23> He's 65 years old and is now working with Ubuntu 11.10 :D
[19:36] <Can> psilo23: im actually reinstalling Lubuntu right now cause i screwed something up
[19:36] <masquerad> if I were setting up a firewall in my business, I wouldn't let it be gotten around so easily as using a ssh tunnel/proxy
[19:36] <psilo23> Screwed something up !? :P
[19:36] <Can> ya long story
[19:36] <root__> masquerad___, thanks guys.....!
[19:36] <psilo23> I had a problem also with installing new Ubuntu
[19:36] <psilo23> After install the screen turned black
[19:36] <psilo23> on Gnome, KDE and LXDE
[19:36] <psilo23> i installed mandriva: same
[19:37] <psilo23> backtrack: same
[19:37] <root__> actionParsnip___: thanks guys.....!
[19:37] <maxagaz> hello
[19:37] <psilo23> only safe mode would work
[19:37] <psilo23> Now, guess what was wrong ? :D
[19:37] <psilo23> its too funny
[19:37] <root__> ubottu___: thaks guys...
[19:37] <Can> honestly dont know enough about linux to even guess
[19:37] <psilo23> Can: Well, keep this one in mind
[19:37] <psilo23> i was trying for three days installing it on my lappy
[19:37] <psilo23> and then i couldnt get it to work
[19:38] <psilo23> during booting i pressed FN and arrow up
[19:38] <psilo23> top turn on the backlight of my screen
[19:38] <psilo23> ROFLOL
[19:38] <psilo23> that was insane, after like 10 reinstalls
[19:38] <psilo23> a few days work
[19:38] <psilo23> its the brightness that automaticly turned to 0 on my laptop, and turned on when i started safe mode, dunno why that happend
[19:38] <psilo23> :D
[19:38] <Can> its always the dumbest stuff that makes you facepalm the hardest when you do it
[19:39] <psilo23> so i had to press FN + Arrows up to turn the lights back on hahahaha
[19:39] <psilo23> i was about to buy a new laptop
[19:39] <psilo23> xD
[19:39] <psilo23> i thought
[19:39] <psilo23> ok
[19:39] <FTK> anyone knows how to change /etc/issue setting without it keeping on reverting to original??
[19:39] <psilo23> not it just died, somethings wrong with the gfx card
[19:39] <Pici> FTK: Why would you want to do that?
[19:39] <masquerad> psilo23, I'd expect your ip address to be added to that person's firewall-blocking the first time their network security persons notice that you were connected through
[19:40] <FTK> Pici : basically i am changing info on /etc/issue and /etc/lsb-release cause i am building a local Derivative of ubuntu
[19:40] <psilo23> masquerad: ive been going online bypassing firewalls for the pas 8 years now
[19:40] <psilo23> i worked at the biggest isp of my countryu
[19:40] <psilo23> this is the way to bypass a proxy ;)
[19:40] <Pici> psilo23: I know this channel isn't extremly busy right now, but #ubuntu is for support only, if you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:41] <Can> thats pry a bit my fault too so sorry
[19:41] <psilo23> Pici: If you had read my stuff you would know it was acutally about a problem in Ubuntu
[19:41] <psilo23> But thanks for telling me
[19:41] <kkamal> Hello guys, can anyone tell me how to recover my root password on ubuntu 11.10
[19:41] <masquerad> psilo23, how much do they want to be in trouble at work?
[19:41] <liram> (ubuntu noob but learning!) what is the normal mounting point for harddrives? I have 2tb raid setup and an ssd, but now im getting messages my ssd is running full while its not, currently I have it mounted at /home/raid/ and it seems ubuntu is seeing the raid config as the root (/)
[19:41] <Jason10> can someone help me with an issue i'm having?
[19:41] <Pici> kkamal: there is no root password in Ubuntu.  We use sudo instead.
[19:41] <RyuGuns1> No luck
[19:41] <psilo23> masquerad: Smartyoants, go get a job and see how it works inside a company
[19:41] <Gentoo64> Jason10: ask
[19:42] <psilo23> smartypants
[19:42] <kimpa> psilo23, alot of ppl have that problem, black/dim display after install, installing graphic driver usually solves it :)
[19:42] <Pici> psilo23: I saw your discussion on forgetting to press the backlight button, thats not on-topic for this channel.
[19:42] <Jason10> after installing ubuntu 11.10 i'm only able to see running programs in workspace switcher
[19:42] <kkamal> Pici, yes but I get : you mast be setuid root
[19:42] <masquerad> psilo23, I was (some years ago) the person in charge of shutting down what you are proposing. it's so very easy to detect
[19:42] <psilo23> Pici: Dude, whats your problem
[19:43] <Pici> kkamal: What is giving you that?
[19:43] <FTK> errr, anyone..
[19:43] <tables> how do i lock the screen on lid close?
[19:43] <tables> laptop
[19:43] <Can> cant we all just get along?
[19:43] <psilo23> masquerad: IF they take a look at it yes, but i was trouble shootig firewalls of corporate customers of the biggest isp here, and i know most companies dont check it
[19:43] <Gentoo64> yes we Can
[19:43] <Can> Gentoo64: brofist
[19:44] <escott> liram, each drive should be mounted once (its possible to bind mount it but outside of chroots its not usually useful). check `mount` and if you see it mounted twice unmount it from the duplicated location
[19:44] <psilo23> masquerad: lets move to #ubuntu-offtopic before Pici punishes us
[19:44] <psilo23> :P
[19:44] <venij212> I screwed up big time-- I somehow chmod-ed the mode of sudoers, and now I cannot do anything
[19:44] <venij212> anyway to get around that?
[19:44] <RyuGuns1> What is a command to list all running applications?
[19:44] <kkamal> Pici: when i try to sudo, i get that
[19:45] <[1]rocket> RyuGuns1 = ps -ef
[19:45] <kkamal> Pici: and /etc/bin/sudo is owned by root
[19:45] <escott> venij212, boot a livecd and fix it
[19:45] <RyuGuns1> [1]rocket: Thank you.
[19:45] <liram> thats not the case escott, it seems ubuntu is seeing his /home/ directory as root, and everything within it including the raid setup wich is 2tb
[19:45] <conntrack> lol
[19:45] <noisebleed> Is it mandatory to have /home partition?
[19:45] <venij212> ok
[19:45] <noisebleed> I'm installing Oneiric
[19:45] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: no
[19:46] <masquerad> noisebleed, it's a very good idea to have a directory named "home", but it doesn't need to be a partition
[19:46] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: and what about /boot?
[19:46] <escott> noisebleed, yes and no. mac has /Users instead of home and some (non-interactive) accounts dont have a /home, but yes you need one for linux
[19:46] <noisebleed> I don't see an official guide
[19:46] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: the bare minimum you need is 1 / partition
[19:46] <noisebleed> and swap
[19:46] <puff> I'm making an existing system dual-boot (two different ubuntu installs).  I have a swap, /, /home and /bulkdata partition.  Do I just need an extra / partition and can re-use the existing /home and swap?
[19:46] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: you dont *need* swap
[19:46] <escott> liram, is he chrooted?
[19:46] <Pici> kkamal: Is this something new that has happened? or have you been able to use sudo before?
[19:47] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: I'm used to Gentoo installs, with /boot, / and swap
[19:47] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: you dont need them
[19:47] <Gentoo64> you should know
[19:47] <masquerad> noisebleed, how much ram do you have?
[19:47] <noisebleed> but, the recoomended?
[19:47] <noisebleed> masquerad: 512
[19:47] <liram> as I said earlier, im fairly new at linux in general but learning each and every day escott so take it slow with me, okay?
[19:47] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: with 512 youd want swap
[19:47] <escott> noisebleed, anywhere from 0 to 2x ram is normal for swap
[19:48] <masquerad> noisebleed, unless you mean 512 gigabytes, you need a swap
[19:48] <noisebleed> disk is 40GB
[19:48] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: make a 2gb for swap
[19:48] <FTK> bummer
[19:48] <escott> !paste | liram send us the output of the mount and df -h commands
[19:48] <noisebleed> I'm using a spare disk and box for ubuntu to do some programming
[19:48] <kkamal> Pici: yes it worked before, but recently i did "sudo chmod 777 /usr" by error and after that i couldn't use sudo anymore
[19:48] <noisebleed> so, what ubuntu does by default?
[19:48] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: some poeple have a seperate boot for kernels, and to have it unmounted on boot. but its not needed. /home is if you want to preserve it for reistalls or whatever
[19:48] <Neosano> How can I copy a file from my pc to another using ssh? I remember there was some trick for it!
[19:49] <DerpyHoovy> Hey, my computer won't boot - Grub rescue, unknown filesystem. 11.10 dual-boot with Windows.
[19:49] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: if you dont care about that, you can use a / and a swap partition (with your ram)
[19:49] <noisebleed> what partitions? because the iso is running on an external hard drive and the installer says "this disk already has ubuntu" and I had to go for "other install"
[19:49] <escott> Neosano, scp file user@remote:/path
[19:49] <Pici> kkamal: with -R or not?
[19:49] <liram> perhaps its easier to paste the line from my fstab, /dev/mapper/isw_dahigjdcgf_moo1 /home/raid      ext4    defaults        0       2
[19:49] <escott> DerpyHoovy, boot your install disk and fsck your ubuntu partitions
[19:50] <kkamal> Pici: yeah :s with -R
[19:50] <escott> kkamal, you need to reinstall, your system is toast
[19:50] <Pici> kkamal: agreed.
[19:50] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: you either make the partitions manually, or go for auto partitioner
[19:50] <liram> thats the raid config, and my download harddrive(s) but I just recieved that my ssd is getting full wich its not by a long shot
[19:51] <escott> liram, need to see `df -h` and `mount` to know what is going on
[19:51] <kkamal> Pici: yeah :s, yeah it looks like i have to
[19:51] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: i don't see auto-partitioner, went with /boot, swap and /. Thanks for helping out
[19:52] <Gentoo64> ok
[19:52] <kkamal> escott, Pici, could single mode help? does it still exist ??
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Neosano, scp /home/user/filename user@RemoteIP:/home/user , and for folders use  -r  after scp
[19:52] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: btw, I've tried before installlation with SystemRescueCd, but documentation is missing or outdated
[19:52] <escott> kkamal, you won't be able to get the permissions right and you system will be compromised have more problems down the road
[19:52] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: i dont knwo what that is tbh
[19:53] <Neosano>  BluesKaj escott thanks!
[19:53] <Industrial> How do I turn off the windowskey behaviour in Unity? I want to use other Compiz plugins for that. I can't get rid of the windows key bindings in Unity.
[19:53] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: SystemRescueCd is a livecd based on Gentoo
[19:53] <escott> !clone | kkamal you can at least save the list of installed packages
[19:53] <olim> SystemRescueCd is pretty small and handy if you cant get anythign else to work
[19:53] <olim> \boot
[19:53] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: why dont you just install ubuntu with the normal cd?
[19:53] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: don't have cdrom
[19:54] <Gentoo64> how are you installing it now?
[19:54] <noisebleed> from an external hard drive
[19:54] <liram> escott, ive send you the info you required in a whisper, perhaps you can shed some light into it
[19:54] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:54] <celord_CR> hi, how can I chance ubuntu mime types in order to use Word (wine)
[19:54] <noisebleed> and created liveusb using unetbootin
[19:54] <Gentoo64> celord_CR: right click open with?
[19:55] <Gentoo64> set as default
[19:55] <kkamal> escott, ubottu, Pici, thanks guys
[19:56] <noisebleed> btw, with 512mb and a Via C7 (i think) with 1GHz can I go with default ubuntu desktop environment?
[19:56] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: i would definately use lubuntu
[19:56] <NoReGreT> how can i find out the cause of http://i.imgur.com/JNXG4.png ?
[19:56] <celord_CR> Gentoo64, great but how can I set it permanently
[19:56] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: plain uubntu will be slow as hell on that
[19:57] <noisebleed> installer menu is slow...
[19:57] <Gentoo64> celord_CR: should have an option to set as default app, use custom command
[19:57] <escott> NoReGreT, its trying to open a USB stick that was mounted in the past but is not currently mounted
[19:57] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: i would cancel and use lubuntu with that ram and cpu
[19:57] <RyuGuns1> jdobrien: Are you there?
[19:57] <jdobrien> RyuGuns1, yes
[19:57] <DerpyHoovy> ./dev/sda3: clean, 141332/93773824 files, 6693246/375063808 blocks
[19:58] <RyuGuns1> jdobrien: Go into the terminal and type in "DISPLAY=:0.0 ccsm"
[19:58] <RyuGuns1> Then CompizConfig should come up.
[19:58] <escott> DerpyHoovy, if they all come up clean follow !grub to reinstall grub
[19:58] <RyuGuns1> Enable the unity plugin.
[19:58] <escott> !grub | DerpyHoovy
[19:58] <jdobrien> RyuGuns1, I can't get to a erminal
[19:58] <Neosano>  BluesKaj escott doesn't work
[19:58] <Neosano>  BluesKaj escott, Received disconnect from <IP_ADDRESS>: 2: Packet corrupt
[19:58] <RyuGuns1> jdobrien: Have you tried running a different DE then?
[19:59] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: lubuntu is well supported? vs XFCE?
[19:59] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: yes
[19:59] <jdobrien> RyuGuns1, in the middle of something else right now...thanks
[19:59] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: it just has a different set of default apps
[19:59] <Neosano> noisebleed, lubuntu is fine! works very well for me
[20:00] <Neosano> noisebleed, yeah, with your hardware I would definitely suggest you to install lubuntu!
[20:00] <kneaux> Can someone tell me where all my preferences/administration programs have gone? (ocelot upgrade)
[20:00] <noisebleed> I just need an editor like Kate (because eclipse won't be a choice of course) and apache/mysql/php/python
[20:00] <kneaux> Namely, the monitors frontend
[20:00] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: you ca put any apps on, gedit etc
[20:01] <BluesKaj> Neosano, what kind of file were you transferring ?
[20:01] <Neosano> noisebleed, why eclipse wont be a choice?
[20:01] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: uses GTK (Gnome family)
[20:01] <Neosano> BluesKaj, video. .avi
[20:01] <noisebleed> Neosano: eclipse is ultimate slow
[20:01] <kneaux> oh, for god's sake, i don't even get a context menu on the panel now? what the hell are these people thinking?
[20:01] <Gentoo64> kate uses qt gedit is gtk, so i would use gedit for lubuntu
[20:01] <Neosano> noisebleed, oh really? was working very well on my very old laptop
[20:01] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: but i doubt any text edits would run slow
[20:01] <kneaux> is ubuntu trying to lose all of its users by becoming mac os x
[20:02] <Neosano> kneaux, try another button :D
[20:02] <Gentoo64> kneaux: try docky
[20:02] <noisebleed> Neosano: maybe i should check java options
[20:02] <Neosano> kneaux, I don't have it right now, I don't remember, but there's a button on the right (like log off or something) and there is a control panel
[20:02] <tsaknorris> i have sed 4.2.1  if i want to replace all words what start with let say a letter 's/\sa*\s/plaa/g' how im going to do it?
[20:02] <noisebleed> but isn't Unity designed for notebooks? Once i installed it on a Eeepc of a friend
[20:03] <Neosano> kneauf or you can type control panel into your search box. but yeah, very unintuitive, I've felt some regression..
[20:03] <Neosano> noisebleed, too slow for notebooks -_-
[20:03] <mducharme-work> good afternoon
[20:03] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: its not designed for them
[20:03] <mducharme-work> I have an ubuntu server where the network configuration tool does not work
[20:03] <noisebleed> installed notebook edition, isn't that unity?
[20:03] <mducharme-work> it does not appear to create the /etc/network/interfaces file
[20:03] <mducharme-work> that file does not exist
[20:04] <mducharme-work> I assume it's a permissions issue
[20:04] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: what version is it?
[20:04] <mducharme-work> but I have no other ubuntu box to compare with
[20:04] <kneaux> >_< so it's now in the logout menu for no reason whatsoever, /and/ i don't get a menu for those items anymore. Great. That's a real improvement.
[20:04] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: honestly id use lubuntu. my old downstairs comp had 512 ram and it hard froze on the livecd when i opened firefox
[20:04] <Gentoo64> on normal ubuntu
[20:04] <kneaux> I see, also, that "About" has disappeared, and f1 on the desktop doesn't do anything
[20:05] <Neosano> kneaux, well, yes. I don't see a reason for this to be a default behavior. BUT! you can try lubuntu or kubuntu.. or old gnome ubuntu! ^_^
[20:05] <w0_> (11.10) -- how come my title bar in firefox is from a webpage I've opened and since closed?  anyone else seen this?
[20:05] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: what's lubuntu download site or official page? can't find it
[20:05] <kneaux> I /am/ on gnome classic.
[20:05] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: google :) hang on ill do it for you
[20:05] <kneaux> Seriously, this is the third time in a row I've downgraded to the newest version. I'm getting tired of it.
[20:06] <Neosano> noisebleed, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[20:06] <mducharme-work> perhaps is there a way I can see what the default /etc/network/interfaces file is?
[20:06] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:06] <Neosano> kneaux, GET LUBUNTU :D
[20:06] <Neosano> kneaux, and stop whining! that's how I did.
[20:06] <masquerad> kneaux, of you are truly dissatisfied, there are other distros
[20:07] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: thanks.
[20:07] <kneaux> Sure. I just didn't upgrade Ubuntu so I could install a different distribution.
[20:07] <virgo> hi, is it ok, if i ask here about wine problems?
[20:07] <Jonii^> I'm unsure about how to proceed
[20:07] <puff> I want to install a different version of ubuntu alongside an existing ubuntu install and dual-boot.  I have / (20GB) and /home (/50 GB) and /bulkdata (367 GB) and I've shrunk /bulkdata down to free up a 20 GB chunk.  Now what to do I do? I presume I format the new 20 GB chunk as ext4, but what mount point do I give it?
[20:08] <masquerad> why not try debian, it's from where ubuntu was born
[20:08] <Jonii^> Crypto-fs, install ubuntu, encrypted filesystem, how to, netbook
[20:08] <imbezol> virgo: you drank too much and got sick?
[20:08] <escott> puff, /
[20:08] <Neosano> imbezol, haha :D
[20:08] <olim> kneaux, you can read about new versions before going for the upgrade
[20:08] <Jonii^> Those are the keywords I'm working with right now
[20:08] <mducharme-work> can anybody please tell me what the default contents of /etc/network/interfaces are supposed to be
[20:08] <written> can't connect from win7 to a samba server on ubuntu 11.10
[20:08] <imbezol> virgo: i think there's an existing bug report :)
[20:08] <kneaux> i'm about to break something >__<
[20:08] <virgo> imbezol, i did not, i did install this wine thing for games, but looks like 3d doesnt work at all and cant even start the applications correctly
[20:08] <kneaux> How do I open up Synaptic?
[20:09] <noisebleed> thanks Neosano
[20:09] <olim> mducharme-work, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[20:09] <kneaux> It's not like I can't do this in the terminal. but WHERE IS SYNAPTIC
[20:09] <virgo> i have lenovo 3000 N100 with intel graphics
[20:09] <DerpyHoovy> Followed purge & re-install steps exactly, same error.
[20:09] <imbezol> virgo: ah. honestly, you'll eventually come to the realization that if you want to run windows games, you should just run windows
[20:09] <escott> Jonii^, ecryptfs and encrypted partitions are different you may want to decide which you want. ecryptfs encrypts individual files, but not the os, while whole partition encryption makes it so you cant boot without the password
[20:09] <Gentoo64> kneaux: not sure its there any more
[20:09] <imbezol> virgo: there are exceptions.. games that are known to run well. but they're far and between
[20:09] <virgo> but there are so many things i like with ubuntu
[20:10] <masquerad> any reports of how well dosbox works for games?
[20:10] <imbezol> virgo: yup. i gave up on games 12 years ago when i switched to linux
[20:10] <kimpa> kneaux, in 11.10 synaptic isnt there by default
[20:10] <liram> the most joy I get from ubuntu is the learning part ;)
[20:10] <kneaux> what? is...there a better package frontend? or is it one that does less, which seems to be the trend these days in ubuntu?
[20:10] <Neosano> kneaux, use terminal to install it.. or.. get LUBUNTU :D
[20:10] <Neosano> kneaux, there is one, called software center
[20:10] <kneaux> okay, neosano, not for nothing, but stop
[20:10] <Gentoo64> kneaux: try searching for it in the software centre
[20:10] <kneaux> that's not synaptic
[20:10] <imbezol> virgo: but seriously, if you want help, there are winehq forums that are your best bet
[20:10] <kneaux> i don't want to use the software center
[20:10] <kneaux> i want synaptic
[20:10] <puff> escott: Won't that conflict with the existing /
[20:10] <Gentoo64> kneaux: stop trollling
[20:10] <Neosano> kneaux, install it!!
[20:10] <imbezol> virgo: how to (and if it's possible to) use most games is documented pretty well
[20:11] <kronoman> hello
[20:11] <kimpa> kneaux, use software center and search synaptic, install, use.
[20:11] <kneaux> well i'm gonna use the terminal, but thanks
[20:11] <meta> Hi all! How can i make unity to constantly show if a window is urgent/have something new?
[20:11] <kneaux> and i'm not trolling
[20:11] <kronoman> question> any way to make unity work with my nvidia gforce2 mx 400 video card? im using ubuntu 11.10
[20:11] <olim> kneaux, another alternative to using software center to install it is by simply typing apt-get install synaptic in a terminal
[20:11] <meta> it only wiggles for some seonds then thats all
[20:11] <Gentoo64> kneaux: stop acting like one then
[20:11] <qirk> masquerad: unfortunately xpdf is a bit laggy since it has to load every next page :/
[20:11] <escott> puff, no its a different partition. the main source of conflict will be the bootloader. if both versions try to setup their own bootloader they will be fighting over who has control over the boot process
[20:11] <kneaux> one step ahead of you olim
[20:12] <kneaux> gentoo64, stop trolling
[20:12] <olim> oh cool
[20:12] <olim> looks like you dont need help finding it then?
[20:12] <Gentoo64> kneaux: i say "search for it in the software center" and you say you dont want to use software center, and keep moaning
[20:12] <kronoman> i have the nvidia drivers working ok, but unity3d does not work
[20:12] <kneaux> not now
[20:12] <tsaknorris> sed 's/ a[a-z]*/ plaa/g'  <- i can do it like that, but its not what i really want :D
[20:12] <kneaux> i'm just annoyed
[20:12] <kneaux> gentoo. shut up.
[20:12] <Myrtti> guys, cool of
[20:12] <Myrtti> f
[20:12] <kneaux> you're making a bigger deal out of this than i was. you're trolling.
[20:12] <Gentoo64> kneaux: good
[20:12] <Gentoo64> :)
[20:12] <Myrtti> Move on, guys. Seriously.
[20:12] <imbezol> you're a towel!
[20:12]  * olim laughs
[20:13] <kronoman> question> I have nvidia official drivers working, but yet cant find any way to make unity work with my nvidia gforce2 mx 400 video card? im using ubuntu 11.10
[20:13] <kneaux> and if i'm not mistaken last time i checked alt+f2 was bound to run program?
[20:13] <kronoman> gnome3 does not work either, only classic gnome
[20:13] <kneaux> some bright chap decided that was worth deleting, i take it?
[20:13] <NoReGreT> escott: that's true, it's always appearing after login, how can I remove it ?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> kneaux: what version of ubuntu did you upgrade from?
[20:14] <kneaux> narwhal
[20:14] <imbezol> as far as i know you can't skip versions
[20:14] <kneaux> was there an m? i don't remember it
[20:14] <Gentoo64> kneaux: youll just have to get used to it. the new one uses gnome 3 but it should be around for a long time
[20:14] <kneaux> also, synaptic's still installed, but not available in any menus, and it crashes when i start it
[20:14] <Gentoo64> so i doubt there will be many major changes for a while
[20:15] <imbezol> if there are no major changes we're all in trouble!
[20:15] <Gentoo64> kneaux: whats it say when you run it from terminal
[20:15] <kneaux> hang on i'm reinstalling it
[20:15] <Jonii^> escott, but you can't do anything with the OS without having the password, right?
[20:15] <DerpyHoovy> Followed purge & re-install steps exactly, same error.
[20:16] <kneaux> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[20:16] <kneaux>   what():  vector::_M_range_check
[20:16] <kneaux> std is the worst abbreviation ever
[20:16] <Gentoo64> standard
[20:16] <Gentoo64> well
[20:16] <kneaux> yeah
[20:16] <Gentoo64> i dont know
[20:16] <escott> Jonii^, with ecryptfs one can login as root, but root is still unable to access the ecryptfs protected files without the users password. so you could safely let a friend use a guest account on your computer. you cant with full disk encryption
[20:16] <Gentoo64> no idea why its crashing
[20:16] <bkerensa> anyone know how to dist-upgrade to 12.04?
[20:16] <kronoman> gnome3 is not working on my video card> nvidia gforce2 (NV11), all drivers installed and working, any idea?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> bkerensa: everyone will say "why"
[20:17] <kneaux> god i was driving out of a rental car place once and the sign by the spikes said, with the first letters of each word highlighted, in red, "Severe Tire Damage."
[20:17] <jdobrien> RyuGuns1, I got it fixed thanks
[20:17]  * kneaux facepalmed
[20:17] <bkerensa> Gentoo64: Yeah Im sure :P
[20:17] <kneaux> anyway yeah that's super bizarre
[20:17] <RyuGuns1> jdobrien: How did you do it?
[20:17] <puff> escott: Okay, fomratting the new partition, next, I guess I use the live CD and install into the new partition?
[20:17] <kneaux> i almost forgot why i needed synaptic in the first place
[20:17] <Pici> !ot | kneaux
[20:17] <puff> escott: I guess the real question is how I get the bootloader installed and set up to worth with both installs.
[20:18] <kneaux> yeah all right whatever
[20:18] <Gentoo64> bkerensa: im not sure tbh, but are you going to be using it for main desktop? i would clonethe drive first
[20:18] <jdobrien> RyuGuns1, finally got to the point where i could run ccsm and reset unity
[20:18] <Jonii^> escott, isn't that pretty good, then?
[20:18] <kronoman> ubuntu 11.10 dropped support for old computers?
[20:18] <Gentoo64> kneaux: why did you need it?
[20:18] <RyuGuns1> :)
[20:18] <bkerensa> Gentoo64: All my data goes to the cloud in real time so Im not afraid of data loss
[20:18] <kneaux> i was going to see about a different desktop environment
[20:19] <Gentoo64> bkerensa: not data loss, but if there isnt a need to use it id stay with the normal version. i can image 12.04 would break all the time especially in this stage
[20:19] <kneaux> never learned aptitude
[20:19] <escott> NoReGreT, you could sudo mkdir /media/whatever it was, and see if you get a better error message that is more indicative of the cause. alternately you could use a combination of ps aux > process.txt; xkill; ps aux process2.txt; diff process.txt process2.txt; to try and find out what process is raising the error
[20:19] <Gentoo64> kneaux: you can jyst use apt-get install
[20:19] <Jonii^> How much of the data is left unencrypted? Can you have the unencrypted part of the system be read-only?
[20:19] <written> why can't i connect to a samba share from win7 ?
[20:19] <Gentoo64> kneaux: and choose the de from lightdm (afaik)
[20:19] <brahim> hi
[20:20] <LongRender> hi
[20:20] <DerpyHoovy> Dangit... I give up. I'll never get this thing working.
[20:20] <kneaux> i'm gonna try ldxe, since that's what neosana was de facto recommending with lubuntu
[20:20] <brahim> i have a question
[20:21] <brahim> i neet to know the password of ftp account
[20:21] <Gentoo64> kneaux: lxde is good. you could try xfce and set it up to look like gnome2 (a bit)
[20:21] <LongRender> Unity issues, the Ausio mixer/banshe controller causes the menu bar and all the aplets to reload when ever I hover over it... any thoughts?
[20:21] <Gentoo64> xfce has more gnomeish panels
[20:21] <brahim> im in a server i can download any file but i don't know where ftp account password is
[20:21] <escott> Jonii^, there is some performance penalty, and nothing prevents access to the ecryptfs loopback mount (so your guest could install a trojan and then wait until you login to read your data) so its not perfect. you just have to decide what level of protection you want. read-only is controlled by the filesystem permissions
[20:21] <monstaRtruck> u guys think no one hates linux
[20:21] <kronoman> gnome3 + geforce2 = does not work , any ideas?
[20:21] <brahim> can any one help me to find out this?
[20:21] <Gentoo64> monstaRtruck: my brother hatres linux
[20:21] <kneaux> i've tried xfce...not the hugest fan...
[20:22] <Gentoo64> kneaux: me neither... lol
[20:22] <kneaux> Oh. Man. My friend told me a while back about an
[20:22] <Jonii^> escott, yeah, but to prevent any supposedly encrypted data leaving a trail to unencrypted portion of the system
[20:22] <kneaux> scuse me X11 alternative but I can't remember the name of it, anyone have suggestions?
 i just got gtx560
[20:22] <monstaRtruck> how do u think i feel
[20:22] <monstaRtruck> this linux stuff is worthless
[20:23] <kronoman> I have the nvidia drivers working
[20:23] <Gentoo64> monstaRtruck: whats the problem?
[20:23] <kronoman> but, unity seems to want a better, more expensive card
[20:23] <kronoman> Im on third world guys, I cant purchase a new video card
[20:23] <Gentoo64> kronoman: if you dont *need* unity, then use something else
[20:23] <monstaRtruck> im getting 1000fps in windows opengl
[20:23] <Gentoo64> no one needs unity
[20:24] <kneaux> X11 (still, after like six years, grumble) won't let you configure more than 4 keyboard layouts at one time, which is why I got a computer virus, because I started using Windows again. The upshot being...what can I use other than X11
[20:24] <monstaRtruck> glxgears friken frozen meanwhile
[20:24] <mducharme-work> hrm
[20:24] <kronoman> Im using gnome classic right now
[20:24] <mducharme-work> I don't understand why this network connections gui is not working
[20:24] <mducharme-work> can anybody explain
[20:24] <kronoman> but I have a 3D accelerated card
[20:24] <escott> Jonii^, thats related usually to things like encrypted swap. if you want NSA level security go with a fully encrypted disk. ecryptfs is easier to use and prevents any random thief from reading your email if they steal your laptop.
[20:24] <kronoman> gnome3 should work with nvidia gforce2
[20:24] <kronoman> most games work on wine and all
[20:24] <mducharme-work> I can manually set the ip in the interfaces file
[20:24] <kneaux> cosign
[20:24] <kronoman> and this thing just for drawing a couple windows needs the latest graphic card?
[20:24] <puff> Okay, I now have a second / partition setup, 20 GB formatted ext4.  Now what, just use the live CD's "install ubuntu" option?
[20:24] <kronoman> that is shitty programming
[20:24] <Gentoo64> kronoman: its prob 3d accelerated thats all
[20:25] <Gentoo64> gnome shell needs it
[20:25] <Gentoo64> it just dont let you use a slow card because itll run bad
[20:25] <kneaux> i guess everybody uses X11 then
[20:25] <Gentoo64> kneaux: yes
[20:25] <Gentoo64> its the norm
[20:26] <kronoman> Gentoo64, but most games work with my card, yet gnome or unity cant render a couple window
[20:26] <kronoman> I mean, opengl real games with effects, everything
[20:27] <Gentoo64> kronoman: whats happening then, is it trying to work? or denying you from running unity
[20:27] <kronoman> yet gnome requires some awesome expensive card just to draw the windows
[20:27] <kronoman> unity refuses to run
[20:27] <kronoman> and gnome3 just runs
[20:27] <Gentoo64> kronoman: gnome shell?
[20:27] <Gentoo64> or plain
[20:27] <kronoman> then sometimes gives segs fault
[20:27] <kronoman> and does not display windows
[20:27] <kronoman> just white screens
[20:27] <kronoman> glxinfo gives
[20:27] <kronoman> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[20:27] <kronoman> server glx version string: 1.4
[20:27] <FloodBot1> kronoman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <kronoman> gnome shell
[20:28] <tensorpudding> that's a lie
[20:28] <tensorpudding> it doesn't require an expensive card to use gnome
[20:28] <tensorpudding> just a modern one
[20:28] <trosky> hello
[20:28] <Gentoo64> i can run unity with vbox graphics smooth as anything
[20:29] <kronoman> tensorpudding, then ubuntu has ditched support for the poor and opressed
[20:29] <kneaux> Gentoo64, there are others though, right?
[20:29] <Jonii^> escott, thanks
[20:29] <kronoman> I cant purchase a modern computer, nor most of the people here
[20:29] <tensorpudding> "modern" being made in like the last five years
[20:29] <kronoman> the gov has closed imports of "luxury" goods
[20:29] <Gentoo64> kneaux: there is an x11 alternative cant remember the name, but nothing will take over x11
[20:29] <kronoman> I dont want to involve politics in my card
[20:29] <kronoman> but believe, even if I have the money, I could not purchase a new card
[20:29] <kronoman> or new computer
[20:29] <Gentoo64> kronoman: who cares . use something else
[20:29] <tensorpudding> and in any case, there's gnome-fallback
[20:30] <kronoman> ubuntu should give support to 3rd world computers
[20:30] <Gentoo64> kronoman: not having unity isnt the end of the world
[20:30] <kronoman> Im using gnome classic right now
[20:30] <venik212> escott-- I thought I knew how to fix the mode on my sudoers file from the live CD, but I failed
[20:30] <Gentoo64> kronoman: ok.. use that then
[20:30] <kronoman> but it should work on any opengl card
[20:30] <venik212> it says that the mode is 0660 and should be 0440
[20:30] <kronoman> I cant see why just to animate a window it needs a modern card
[20:30] <kronoman> from a programming point of view that is crap
[20:31] <Gentoo64> kronoman: it is
[20:31] <Gentoo64> so dont use it
[20:31] <kronoman> Doom3 runs on my card
[20:31] <kronoman> yet unity cant render the calculator
[20:31] <tensorpudding> if doom 3 runs on your card i find it hard to believe it's not powerful enough for gnome
[20:31] <venik212> sorry-- it says the mode is 0644 and should be 0440
[20:31] <tensorpudding> it's probably a driver bug
[20:31] <kronoman> it is powerful for gnome
[20:31] <kronoman> gnome is buggy
[20:31] <Gentoo64> kronoman: i reckon youve done something and messed something up somewhere
[20:31] <Mimoso98> Hi guys
[20:32] <escott> venik212, 660 gives too many permissions. they want it 640 or lower
[20:32] <kronoman> meh, I just should do what everything else here does and pirate a win7
[20:32] <kronoman> so far for the linux community and support for the freedom
[20:32] <kronoman> good night for today
[20:32] <Gentoo64> kronoman: who cares
[20:32] <venik212> they want it to be 0440, but I don't know how to restore it, from the live CD or ...?
[20:33] <waheed> i installe LAMP on my ubuntu 10.10, localhost works fine, but when trying opening any of apps on www, it gives me 403 forbidden You don't have permission to access /mysite/ on this server.  what to do ??
[20:33] <kneaux> yeah, because that's way less buggy and runs way faster than gnome
[20:33] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: lubuntu installer menu is a lot faster :)
[20:33] <Mimoso98> I have an Ubuntu server Intrepid since 2 years ago I think working fine..I went today to install php5-cli using apt-get and I get a lot of error messages of unfound packages due no server responses. I think I need to update my sources.list, but I don't know where to find this for the Intrepid version, thanks.
[20:33] <kneaux> fail, you're.
[20:33] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: it will be
[20:33] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: nice tip, thanks a lot
[20:33] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: its a lot nicer to use: basic menus, faster etc
[20:34] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: I was installing fluxbox on my pentium2 when it finally died
[20:35] <puff> Can anyone help me with installing dual-boot?
[20:35] <Gentoo64> puff: whats the problem
[20:35] <venik212> how do I change the mode of the /etc/sudoers file from 0644 to 0440?  Trying to do it I am told that there is no valid sudoers source found... quitting
[20:35] <puff> Gentoo64: I'm just not sure what to do next.
[20:35] <Gentoo64> noisebleed: ive used openbox for years, basically lxde (lxpanel and pcmanfm)
[20:35] <Gentoo64> puff: how did you install ubuntu?
[20:35] <noisebleed> Gentoo64: oh, and E17 more recently, but I like fluxbox better
[20:36] <puff> Gentoo64: Alternate install CD of lucid.
[20:36] <zykotick9> !eol | Mimoso98
[20:36] <Gentoo64> puff: did you choose alongside windows?
[20:36] <Gentoo64> or on its own partition
[20:36] <puff> Gentoo64:  want to add dual boot to 11.10 to the existing ubuntu lucid install. I've set up an extra 20GB / partition, formatted ext4.
[20:36] <venik212> I would hate to have to reinstall ubuntu just for changing the mode of one file...
[20:36] <Mimoso98> No need to upgrade, everything works fine, so no solution???
[20:36] <Gentoo64> puff: afaik it should pick it up, if not youll have to edit the grub config file and add it
[20:37] <puff> Gentoo64: The lucid partition was/is exclusive, wiped the whole drive, have (besides boot and swap) three logical partitions / and /home and /bulkdata.
[20:37] <guntbert> venik212: use the recovery mode
[20:37] <venik212> I tried, but I still got the same error message
[20:37] <puff> Gentoo64: Well, first thing is, I boot up the 11.10 live CD, and select install, and then what?
[20:37] <Mimoso98> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.2.6-2ubuntu4.6_amd64.deb
[20:37] <Gentoo64> puff: install it manually to the partition(s) then boot it
[20:37] <escott> venik212, so its looking at sudoers and seeing the permissions are too broad and saying "SUDOERS is compromised DANGER DANGER" and aborting. so you need to go back and fix the permissions on sudoers until its happy
[20:37] <Mimoso98> That is the file that apt-get can't find
[20:37] <Mimoso98> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.2.6-2ubuntu4.6_amd64.deb
[20:38] <puff> Gentoo64: To correct myself, the lucid partition was/is exclusive, wiped the whole drive, have (besides boot and swap) three logical partitions / and /home and /bulkdata, and now the new, extra / where I want 11.10 to live.
[20:38] <Can> how do i make the digital clock app display regular non military time?
[20:38] <puff> Gentoo64: By "install it manually", you mean...?
[20:38] <waheed> help please, i installe LAMP on my ubuntu 10.10, localhost works fine, but when trying opening any of apps on www, it gives me 403 forbidden You don't have permission to access /mysite/ on this server.  what to do ??
[20:38] <Gentoo64> puff: you just using 1 / partition for the new one?
[20:38] <escott> venik212, so you were doing the right thing with recovery mode, you just didnt do enough of it
[20:38] <guntbert> venik212: the same? in recovery mode you are logged in as root I thought
[20:38] <puff> Gentoo64: I want the two / installs to share /home
[20:38] <venik212> I know WHAT they want-- but I don't kow how to do it-- it is catch 22: to do it I need to be root
[20:38] <smooph_> waheed: you give youreself the rights
[20:38] <puff> Gentoo64: Though come to think of it, might be a good idea for them to have their own swaps, h.
[20:39] <Gentoo64> puff: ok. so choose the mnaual partition method on install, and set the home partition as the /home mountpoint
[20:39] <mneptok> puff: you'll be much happier with the -alternate CD image
[20:39] <Mimoso98> OK, now I understand why installing Debian definitely worths it!
[20:39] <puff> mneptok: Really?
[20:39] <venik212> I tried to type chmode 0440 sudoers
[20:39] <venik212> but it failed
[20:39] <escott> venik212, in recovery you are root
[20:39] <escott> venik212, and its chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[20:39] <bekks> venik212: How did you try? which error do you get?
[20:39] <sveinse> Why is font adjustment not available on oneiric out of the box? I find it a pretty wierd thing to remove...
[20:39] <waheed> smooph_ , I used chmod the www directory but still nothing
[20:39] <mneptok> puff: really. parted is menu-driven. selecting what aprtitions to mount and use where is a breeze.
[20:39] <zykotick9> Mimoso98, using unsupported versions opens you to security holes.  8.10 isn't supported - and that includes here.  Upgrading is really your only option.
[20:40] <escott> sveinse, its there, just hidden a couple menus deep in the font preferences
[20:40] <venik212> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[20:40] <mneptok> puff: remember, you're going to have to match UUIDs and such across installs to get file permissions happy.
[20:40] <escott> venik212, you dont need to sudo in recovery mode. you are root already. sudo does nothing
[20:40] <guntbert> venik212: in recovery mode you don't need sudo
[20:40] <waheed> smooph_ !!
[20:40] <venik212> I know-- I did not sudo there
[20:40] <puff> mneptok: Right... does that just mean I have to tweak /etc/passwd & etc to make sure the user accounts have the same numbers?
[20:41] <venik212> just typed chmod 440 sudoers
[20:41] <sveinse> escott: How to get there?
[20:41] <venik212> isn't that what I was supposed to type?
[20:41] <Mimoso98> zykotick9, but I have a lot of stuff running there, and no time to erase and re-install a new version from scratch...
[20:41] <justadude41123> hello all
[20:41] <smooph_> waheed: what exactly is the error msg ... there is a difference between not being able to open the location (lamp doesn't have the rights) not being able to access the location (.htaccess file) and a configuration error in lamp
[20:41] <waheed> help help help please, why no one answers me ??
[20:41] <escott> venik212, chmod 440 /etc/sudoers (just in case you arent already in etc)
[20:41] <Mimoso98> why these updates are not done on real time...
[20:41] <turboneat> Gentlemen. What's the best way to burn mp3s to a cd?
[20:41] <mneptok> puff: just get used to creating users and groups from the command line, and you can tell the OS what UUID to assign.
[20:41] <venik212> let me try one more time... stay tuned
[20:41] <xangua> Mimoso98: you had 2 years to upgrade ;)
[20:41] <puff> mneptok: Okay, that's easy enough.
[20:42] <zykotick9> !eol > Mimoso98
[20:42] <zykotick9> Mimoso98, so read what !eol is telling you
[20:42] <justadude41123> i have a small problem, im not sure how i did it before but i am trying to install ubuntu 10.4.3 server to a dell power edge, and well it freezes as soon as setup starts to boot on the language selection
[20:42] <waheed> smooph_ , 403 Forbidden  You don't have permission to access /mysite/ on this server.
[20:42] <mneptok> puff: but if you know what /etc/passwd *is* you are well capable of running the alternate install.
[20:42] <Mimoso98> ok, switiching to Debian
[20:42] <Mimoso98> thanks
[20:42] <Corey> waheed: Time to adjust permissions.
[20:42] <zykotick9> Mimoso98, ubuntu (and debian) are not rolling releases
[20:42] <Corey> Mimoso98: Good luck.
[20:42] <sveinse> escott: i.e. I have no fonts preferences. not immediately in system settings at least
[20:42] <Corey> Mimoso98: You'll see the same issues there.
[20:42] <puff> mneptok: I'm pretty familiar with this stuff, it's just the dual-boot aspect that's new to me.
[20:43] <Mimoso98> No,
[20:43] <Mimoso98> I already have a Debian server since 2009
[20:43] <Mimoso98> still working like a charm
[20:43] <Mimoso98> and I still can install packages
[20:43] <escott> sveinse, i know i saw this earlier. ill see if i can find it again
[20:43] <smooph_> waheed: where is your mysite located on your maschine
[20:43] <Corey> Mimoso98: Okay then.  Enoy it. :-)  Use whatever works for you.
[20:43] <puff> mneptok: So I run the alternate install CD, manual partitioning, select the new / for the system, select existing /home, then install, right?
[20:43] <justadude41123> im thinking i installed 10.4.0 and it worked then, but im not sure
[20:43] <waheed> smooph_ on /www
[20:44] <mneptok> puff: the alternate installer has a few more install tweaks easily available. such as defining partition use and mount points, LUKS, dm-crypt etc etc
[20:44] <waheed> smooph sorry, on /var/www
[20:44] <puff> mneptok: And afterwards, make sure I create users with the same UUIDs.
[20:44] <waheed> smooph_ on /var/www
[20:44] <bekks> puff: Users do not have a UUID.
[20:44] <puff> mneptok: How do I set up the boot process?
[20:44] <bekks> They do have an UID.
[20:44] <Can> whats the terminal command to install open office or libre office?
[20:44] <waheed> Corey adjust permission for which directory??
[20:44] <mneptok> puff: right, you'll get to partitioning, see the stuff that already there, and assign a mount point. you can tell the installer NOT to format it
[20:44] <Can> sudo apt-get install libre-office?
[20:44] <puff> bekks: Right, typo.
[20:44] <Corey> Can: aptitude install openoffice
[20:44] <Corey> Or apt-get install
[20:45] <Corey> waheed: Whatever's not permitting the apache user to view it.
[20:45] <Can> which one is current? open or libre?
[20:45] <bekks> Can: Both.
[20:45] <mneptok> puff: the GRUB installer should find the other /boot and menuitizerize it
[20:45] <escott> sveinse, sorry its in gnome-tweak-tool under fonts. im not sure where unity has it. hopefully unity-tweak-tool?
[20:45] <puff> mneptok: The GRUB installer from the new (11.10) install?
[20:45] <dasy2k1> can both, I think that openoffice is just a metapackage for libre office anyway
[20:46] <smooph_> waheed: try typing "chmod -R a+r /var/www/<direcotry>"
[20:46] <mneptok> puff: another /boot should make GRUB set up menu entries for the other installation. but i have not done any of this recently.
[20:46] <waheed> Corey that is what I don't know exactly, what is not permitting me ?, I adjusted the permissions of my /var/www where the apps are, but still the same
[20:46] <Can> i did sudo apt-get install libreoffice and its installing a junk load of packs
[20:46] <smooph_> waheed: sry brainlag
[20:46] <smooph_> dont
[20:47] <sveinse> escott: Yeah, I have it in gnome-tweak-tool. My question was why it is removed from unity. Seems like a strange thing to do
[20:47] <dasy2k1> can err yes, libreoffice itself is in many packages and it depends on many more
[20:47] <bekks> Can: So does openoffice.
[20:47] <Can> hey as long as i can get my college work done with out having to turn on winfail im happy
[20:47] <c_k> if I want to maintain machines with a completely neutral timezone, would GMT or UTC be best to use?
[20:48] <dasy2k1> c_k yes
[20:48] <escott> sveinse, because if the user needs to specify rgb subpixel ordering thats a bug in the pango/xorg screen detection
[20:48] <Can> how do i change the clock to display normal time not military time?
[20:48] <c_k> are GMT / UTC the same thing though?
[20:48] <dasy2k1> c_k:  technically no, realistically yes
[20:48] <rasta1> aa
[20:48] <rasta1> holaaa
[20:48] <smooph_> waheed: actually that could work you need to give you webserver access to the files ... either allow everybody to read ... a+r or change ownership to www-data
[20:48] <sveinse> escott: So its a temporary thing then, right?
[20:48] <Jonii^> Okay, this is tricky
[20:49] <rasta1> al guien que hable español
[20:49] <Can> %R is military %r givs me hh: mm: ss and i dont need the seconds
[20:49] <saju_m> how search file by content in ubuntu 11.10
[20:49] <c_k> dasy2k1: thanks :)
[20:49] <Jonii^> Are there any serious drawbacks to using ecryptfs instead of full disk encryption?
[20:49] <dasy2k1> c_k:  technically UTC dosent include leap seconds GMT does
[20:49] <saju_m> this feature was there in 11.04
[20:49] <noisebleed> I'm installing Lubuntu. Where can i check installation progress. Graphical menu says "getting file 1 of 1" for a while (looks stuck). Is there a log or something?
[20:49] <dasy2k1> !es > rasta1
[20:50] <puff> mneptok: Okay, thanks.
[20:50] <escott> sveinse, the menu disappearing is permanent, one hopes the support improves to the point where you dont have to worry that your subpixel order is wrong
[20:51] <puff> mneptok: Sounds risky enough that I'm going to wait until I get home and see if the overnight backups executed properly (didn't have time to check this morning :-()
[20:52] <escott> Jonii^, drawbacks are it is a little slower, and uses a bit more disk space (very small amount that). advantages are flexibility
[20:53] <tomreyn> ist there an apt-get equivalent to dpkg -i --force-depends foo?
[20:54] <escott> Jonii^, the other big disadvantage is the disadvantage that happens whenever you mix encrypted and non-encrypted content. its obvious what is encrypted and what is not, and leakages across the boundaries between the two can put encrypted data at risk
[20:54] <saju_m> how search file by content in ubuntu 11.10 ???  this feature was there in 11.04 .
[20:54] <joebonni> hi i am new here
[20:54] <dasy2k1> welcome joebonni
[20:54] <joebonni> thank you dasy2k1
[20:54] <sveinse> escott: Menu disappearing with unity is fine. But I do have objections to the choices concerning sizes of the fonts. They are too big for my taste
[20:54] <rasta1> holaaaaa
[20:54] <sveinse> Having large screen does not imply I want better rendering of the fonts. Rather I'd like more text into my screen
[20:54] <shawn__> Why is it than when I update my NVIDIA drivers my workspace switcher becomes 1D?
[20:54] <atannus> Hi. I'm having trouble installing beanstalkd on Ubuntu Server 10.04. The package is supposed to be available on 10.04, but I can't install it via apt-get, and I have no idea why.
[20:54] <joebonni> sveinse because unity is very new i have switched to gnome3 till all the things are worked out like when gnome 2 was new
[20:54] <atannus> It is supposed to be in the Ubuntu Universe repo. My sources.list has "multiverse universe", "universe", and "multiverse", but no "ubuntu uniserve". Is that the problem?
[20:54] <venik212> escott-- trying to change the mode from recovery mode (as root) failed.  I typed: chmod 440 sudoers and got back: ..read-only file system
[20:54] <venik212> the results of ls -l sudoers were identical before and after my chmod
[20:54] <escott> venik212, so you first need to mount -o remount,rw /
[20:55] <Guest24388> l
[20:56] <sveinse> Does there exist a backports repo for natty?
[20:56] <shawn__> Why is it than when I update my NVIDIA drivers my workspace switcher becomes 1D?
[20:56] <xangua> sveinse: software center-edit-sources, you can enable it there
[20:57] <escott> shawn__, they didnt update correctly and you are now using an unaccelerated desktop
[20:57] <venik212> escott: I should type: mount -o remount, rw /   ?
[20:57] <venik212> space after the rw?
[20:57] <atannus> Hi. I'm having trouble installing beanstalkd on Ubuntu Server 10.04. The package is supposed to be available on 10.04, but I can't install it via apt-get, and I have no idea why. It is supposed to be in the Ubuntu Universe repo. My sources.list has "multiverse universe", "universe", and "multiverse", but no "ubuntu uniserve". Is that the problem?
[20:57] <escott> venik212, mount -o remount,rw / ( no space between remount,rw)
[20:57] <shawn__> So I uninstalled them and all is well. So sandy bridge is running the graphics?
[20:57] <sveinse> xangua: Do you have an URL reference instead? This is for a server where the sources file are edited manually?   ... I can probably google for it...
[20:58] <venik212> thanks-- I'll try that
[20:58] <escott> shawn__, yes sandys are supported in 11.10
[20:58] <shawn__> That's why it's so clean... 11.10 is so nice and so fast.
[20:58] <escott> shawn__, but if you have two chips, the nvidia may not relinquish control of the graphics so you could be using nvidia unaccelerated
[20:59] <shawn__> I made sure that no nvidia drivers were installed.
[20:59] <escott> shawn__, not having drivers doesnt mean the hardware is using intel. check your bios and check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 Jonii^, the other big disadvantage is the disadvantage that happens whenever you mix encrypted and non-encrypted content. its obvious what is encrypted and what is not, and leakages across the boundaries between the two can put encrypted data at risk <- I don't understand
[21:00] <dasy2k1> in unity how do i get at the apps that minimise themselves to the gnome system tray in gnome, such as skype
[21:00] <shawn__> And how would I do that, escott?
[21:01] <Nixnine> hey guys, I've installed 11.10 to a 8gb flash drive.  I know this might be a stupid question, but. . . can I copy the entirety of that drive to another and boot from the second one?  or do I need to do an install on the second one?
[21:02] <xangua> dasy2k1: you can whithelist all the apps to show then in the panel, saw a post about it on webupd8blog
[21:02] <venluckey> Nixnine, from my understanding, as long a s the other drive is correct format, you should be able to
[21:02] <xangua> !google webupd8 oneiric tweak
[21:02] <sveinse> I'd have to say, being an experienced Linux user and developer, I always feel like a fish being out of the water when I encounter a new Ubuntu release. It seems Ubuntu has strong opinions on how the user should be using the desktop.
[21:02] <xangua> ups, well just do the google dasy2k1 ;)
[21:02] <dasy2k1> Nixnine: dd if=/dev/sdx of=/dev/sdy  where x and y are the two flash drives (make sure you get this right, it will nuke anything at the destination)
[21:03] <escott> Jonii-^, a couple cases (a) you are editing an encrypted file, but the kernel swaps gedit out to swap, and so the unencrypted contents are written in plaintext to your swap partition. (b) the FBI raids your office and takes your computer, and finds a folder labeled "money_laundering_operations" with encrypted files inside it, they know exactly where to look and where to put their efforts
[21:03] <Gentoo64> sveinse: thats sort of the point of it
[21:03] <Nixnine> Would I just be better off installing anew?  Didn't take that much time actually.
[21:04] <escott> Jonii-^, the classic problem of encryption is "what is easier to break... you encryption key, or your arm?" you need to think about what you are trying to protect and establish appropriate levels of security for the value of those items
[21:04] <Jonii-^> escott, but assuming reasonably strong key, fbi should not have a chance of decrypting my money_laundering_operations -file, just like the case is with full disk encryption?
[21:04] <sveinse> Gentoo64: Being a fish out of water or having strong opinions?   :P :D
[21:04] <escott> Jonii-^, a random backpack snatcher at a starbucks is not going to pick apart your swap partition bit by bit to find your secrets, the FBI will
[21:04] <venluckey> Hi Gentoo64
[21:04] <activezero> lololol
[21:05] <Gentoo64> venluckey: hi
[21:05] <Jonii-^> escott, does ubuntu allow installing itself with full partition encryption on swap and ecryptfs ?
[21:05] <Jonii-^> Wouldn't that solve swap-problems kinda nicely?
[21:06] <escott> Jonii-^, if you are worried about the FBI use full disk encryption so that nothing leaks to swap (and then use a truecrypt hidden volume). if you dont want the guy at starbucks to be able to get your bank account number ecryptfs is good enough and a lot easier
[21:06] <shawn__> Will Ubuntu ever be as conservative on power as Windows?
[21:06] <Gentoo64> shawn__: who knows
[21:06] <escott> shawn__, use powertop
[21:07] <escott> shawn__, and i cant comment on your bios, but if you want to past your Xorg.0.log i can tell you what you are running
[21:07] <escott> !paste | shawn__
[21:08] <shawn__> What is Xorg.0.log?
[21:08] <Nixnine> Ok.  Another question.    I think.
[21:11] <Myrtti> d4nt3: also, this channel isn't for opinion polls
[21:11] <Nixnine> It's an option under my name in the right hand corner
[21:11] <d4nt3> i mean UNR 10.11
[21:12] <venluckey> <--- Using 10.04 Netbook
[21:12] <DavidCA> Is it possible to fix an Advanced Format Drive's misaligned sectors without losing all of my data?
[21:12] <zykotick9> d4nt3, ubuntu versions end in 4 or 10 - to 10.10 do you mean?
[21:12] <Myrtti> d4nt3: there is no 10.11, there's 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10, but no 10.11
[21:12] <d4nt3> i mean Ubuntu Netbook Remix ver 10.11
[21:12] <failure> DavidCA: are you sure its misaligned ? do you have 4k sectors or 512byte ?
[21:12] <lwizardl> anyone here know how to auto add numbers to a column in libreoffice writer ? (sort 001 in column A row 2 in the table)
[21:13] <d4nt3> oooppp....sorry my mistake....i mean 11.04
[21:13] <escott> shawn__, i read that as intel all the way
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> d4nt3: there is no netbook remix now
[21:13] <shawn__> Where do I get powertop?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> shawn__: a gay bar ;)
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> boom
[21:13] <DavidCA> failure: 4k sectors. and yes, its misaligned because I used CloneZilla to to clone from a non-advanced format drive to an advanced format 4k sector drive
[21:13] <xangua> Myrtti: you can add any pop/imap account you want on thunderbird, don't know about exchange
[21:13] <d4nt3> is there any ubuntu that still download video in tmp file??
[21:13] <xangua> that was for Nixnine ;)
[21:13] <DavidCA> failure: it even says so in the GUI Disk Manager or whatever its called
[21:13] <shawn__> ActionParsnip: CUte.
[21:14] <Industrial> How do I disable WINDOWS + 1 2 3 4 5 etc keybinds in unity?
[21:14] <xangua> d4nt3: if you are refering to adobe flash, adobe is the one that decides where it want to store the files, not ubuntu
[21:14] <failure> DavidCA: yes, it dosnt take in mind that we can use 4k sectors :P so its prob. not misaligned
[21:14] <DavidCA> failure: im pretty sure it is, i googled around and it said something about starting on sector 64, but mine starts on sector 63
[21:15] <escott> Jonii-^, assuming that it is password protected and you aren't logged in on tty1 then they would have to reboot to get access to the system at which point ecryptfs loopbacks will be unmounted and they won't be able to access the files on the drive, but the fbi would not make that mistake. they would keep it powered on and hack into it while you were still logged in. and if they got a system that had been turned off they would scan the sw
[21:15] <escott> ap bit by bit which ecryptfs does not protect (you can use dmcrypt on the swap partition to prevent swap attacks)
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> d4nt3: there are extensions and addons to download youtube. There is als0 youtube-dl you can use in cli
[21:15] <d4nt3> thats mean if i want to download video to tmp file...i have to download the previous flash version???
[21:15] <trijntje> How can I enable third button emulation/paste on my touchpad on oneiric?
[21:15] <escott> shawn__, sudo apt-get install powertop
[21:15] <DavidCA> failure: http://pastebin.com/dm1kiEiG
[21:16] <d4nt3> youtube-dll won't in my computer
[21:16] <dannnnn> i went into sshd.config and changed rootlogin to no, however i can still login as root. And yes, i restarted the ssd demon
[21:16] <dannnnn> why?
[21:16] <Nixnine> Here is where I access the option, under online accounts.   http://imagebin.org/182504
[21:16] <escott> Jonii-^, who are you trying to protect yourself from? who are you worried about? tell us all your secrets :)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> dannnnn: disable the root account as it is supposed to be and it will double protect you :)
[21:16] <dannnnn> i dont follow...
[21:16] <dannnnn> disable root account?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> dannnnn: did you stop and start the ssh service after you editted the file?
[21:16] <dannnnn> yes i did
[21:17] <Myrtti> dannnnn: there isn't supposed to be root account enabled in the first place
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> dannnnn: yes, default ubuntu has the root account disabled
[21:17] <escott> dannnnn, do you mean you can ssh root@host or that you can sudo after ssh username@host
[21:17] <dannnnn> i can ssh root@host
[21:17] <failure> DavidCA: thats cylinders, not block you start at cylinder 1
[21:17] <Myrtti> dannnnn: and AFAIK ssh root login should also be disabled by default
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> dannnnn: you shouldn't be able to as the account is disabled
[21:17] <Jonii-^> escott, at the moment, from backpack thief, but if I would like it if I did have my laptop secured so well even FBI couldn't touch it
[21:17] <Pici> Myrtti: Its not actually.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: its allowed in sshd_config which is strange
[21:17] <Myrtti> live and learn...
[21:18] <Nixnine> Google is the only thing I can add
[21:18] <failure> DavidCA: 1C = 512B according yo your past bin
[21:18] <escott> Jonii-^, if you want that higher level of protection use truecrypt
[21:18] <Jonii-^> If it's possible without any extreme measures. You know, safety is fun
[21:18] <DavidCA> "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary."
[21:18] <escott> Jonii-^, its more work, and is harder to setup is all, and you cant let anyone touch the machine while its powered on and have any security
[21:18] <Jonii-^> It'd be fun to know that even if my netbook was stolen, there's absolutely no way anyone can steal anything whatsoever out of it
[21:19] <k3n> any vpn guides?
[21:19] <failure> DavidCA: google it up, and count on your own if its inlined or missaligned... it dont trust the "dist utility" anymore
[21:19] <escott> !vpn | k3n
[21:19] <failure> DavidCA: and what disks are you using ?
[21:19] <DavidCA> 2TB WD
[21:20] <Jonii-^> Can you get ecryptfs running during install? How about disk encryption?
[21:20] <failure> DavidCA: ok some as me i guess, so we are at 4k blocks
[21:20] <venluckey> Jonii, I had mine3 lifted at school, i put a boot message saying about the source code needed to be re-established, All disc are locked!  Janitors found it in a trash can 2 days later
[21:20] <escott> DavidCA, is it a WD green because thats 4k that pretends to be 512b
[21:20] <DavidCA> escott: yeah it is
[21:21] <escott> DavidCA, thats true 4k that lies. treat it as 4k
[21:21] <Jonii-^> And, likewise, can you get easily ecryptfs running after installing, and how about disk encryption?
[21:21] <escott> Jonii-^, ecryptfs is flexible, truecrypt requires a reinstall
[21:21] <venluckey> i guess it scared them enough to ditch it
[21:21] <DavidCA> its this one: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Intellipower-Desktop/dp/B004VFJ9MK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320441664&sr=8-1
[21:21] <Jonii-^> escott, also, I was under impression truecrypt didn't support full system disk encryption on Ubuntu?
[21:21] <failure> DavidCA: tell your fdisk to print blocks and not cylinders
[21:22] <DavidCA> failure: how
[21:22] <escott> Jonii-^, i think truecrypt is overkill for anyone but freedom fighters and spies, so maybe truecrypt isnt the best choice. but there are a number of full disk encryption tools for linux
[21:23] <shishire> I've got a web server with a dedicated unprivileged user (not www-data) who runs the apache instance on the box.  The code from the webserver is in a private github repo that I occasionally need to git pull to update.  I wish to pull using my personal credentials (my local id_rsa key), but for security reasons, I can only access the box via a second, non-root account, and then sudo -iu username into the web server user.  I've tried enabl
[21:23] <shishire> ssh-agent forwarding, and even had sudo keep the SSH_AUTH_SOCK env variable, but the auth sock file has the wrong permissions (700 for the user I ssh'd into).  Is there a way to change the permissions in an automated fashion?
[21:23] <Kre10s> ok. So I've got version 0.1 of my project done. Its usable, and stable as far as I know, but not tested. I want to get this package to appear in synaptic... Wheres the definitive guide to package creation/publishing/contibuting please?
[21:23] <escott> DavidCA, just make sure you are 4k aligned and that should be good enough
[21:23] <DavidCA> escott: what should I be doing to verify that/
[21:24] <escott> DavidCA, if you get a cylinder count then count each cylinder as 512b. but tools like parted/gparted should give you size without the CHS nonsense
[21:25] <DavidCA> huh?
[21:25] <Nrm> Hello
[21:25] <failure> DavidCA: its true, start at 63 sector is missalined, you shall start at 64
[21:25] <escott> DavidCA, if your tool is telling you cylinders use another tool. so if you are using fdisk use parted or gparted
[21:25] <failure> DavidCA: (64*512)/4096 = 8
[21:25] <cryptopsy> how to play .tak files?
[21:26] <failure> DavidCA: (63*512)/4096 = 7.8 in other words missalined
[21:27] <failure> DavidCA: if you dont have any data on it delete the partition and readd it and tell it to start at 64
[21:27] <DavidCA> thats the problem, i do have all my data on it
[21:27] <failure> DavidCA: if you have data on it, do some reading before altering your partition table
[21:27] <DavidCA> http://pastebin.com/uV2LbiyA
[21:27] <reise6> I'm having some trouble with my window decorator. 'gtk-window-decorator --replace &' works, but window decoration ceases when terminal is closed
[21:27] <escott> DavidCA, at one point the disk manufactures suggested that the disk not only would lie about the size of the cylinders but also lie about where the cylinders started and so 63 would be aligned and 64 would not be. i think they realized how stupid an idea that would be, but i would just trust a recent version of gparted to get it right and leave it at that
[21:27] <failure> DavidCA: it is possible to remove the partition table with data on it and re add it, you will just loose the first sector eg 64
[21:28] <failure> err
[21:28] <failure> 63
[21:28] <failure> but that can maybe fuck something up
[21:28] <DavidCA> hrmm
[21:28] <failure> and the data that is on the disk is still missalined
[21:28] <escott> reise6, nohup gtk-window-decorator --replace
[21:28] <_r00t_> Is http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ the only place for kernels ?
[21:28] <DavidCA> i have my full ubuntu install w/ boxee and tv/movies on the only partition
[21:29] <guntbert> !language | failure
[21:29] <escott> _r00t_, they package vanilla kernels for ubuntu. but you can just use stock
[21:29] <failure> guntbert: ?
[21:29] <reise6> escott: thanks. I have to look up this nohup thing, seems nice :)
[21:29] <guntbert> failure: no swear words here, thank you
[21:29] <_r00t_> escott, stock doesn't work otherwise I wouldn't be looking there !
[21:29] <failure> guntbert: ooo, didnt even notice, sorry
[21:30] <escott> _r00t_, then try the vanilla ppa or you have to compile your own
[21:31] <_r00t_> escott, Hi, ant ideas as what I ppa I should add to synaptic ? I've been downloading them manually :/
[21:31] <failure> DavidCA: if you can, backup your data and try to fix your partition
[21:31] <escott> !ppa | _r00t_
[21:31] <escott> !addppa | _r00t_
[21:31] <_r00t_> This doesn't help much
[21:32] <failure> DavidCA: anyway om off, good luck with your alignment :)
[21:32] <_r00t_> I need the ppa address
[21:32] <DavidCA> failure: thanks
[21:32] <_platypus_> Can someone explain why when I close Banshee or Rhythmbox is still continues to play?
[21:33] <escott>  _platypus_ its not closed, just minimized. you have to ctrl-q to quit it fully (like the messaging application)
[21:33] <user_> hello
[21:33] <_platypus_> I'll get that a whirl. Thanks.
[21:34] <_platypus_> *give
[21:34] <_r00t_> escott, that's only relevant to launchpad ppas ... How do I add http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/
[21:34] <xangua> _platypus_: because it doesn't close, it goes to indicator sound
[21:34] <_platypus_> So hitting x (close) just minimizes it? Odd.
[21:34] <xangua> _r00t_: that is not a repository , you can download the package manually ;)
[21:35] <_r00t_> xangua, that's what i've been doing and it's way too much effort LOL !
[21:35] <escott> _r00t_, if its not listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds then its probably because a ppa for a kernel isn't a great idea. there are a LARGE number of kernel updates, much more than is needed for anyone but a kernel developer
[21:35] <user_> whois escot
[21:35] <xangua> _r00t_: too much effot to download the main packages and the other 2 that correspond to your arch¿
[21:36] <xangua> _r00t_: sounds like you will be better if you stick to the kernel provided by main repository ;)
[21:36] <xangua> user_: scottie doesn't know¿ great song ;)
[21:37] <Jonii-^> What's the best source for finding out how to install ubuntu with encryption enabled?
[21:37] <Jonii-^> On a netbook
[21:37] <Jonii-^> Most sources I found on google were really really badly outdated
[21:37] <_r00t_> xangua, yeah ! 3 downloads ! - I'm running 3.0.8 on 11.04 with 285.05.09 Nvidia drivers
[21:38] <xangua> _r00t_: you have linux 3.0 on oneiric ;)
[21:39] <escott> Jonii-^, what kind of encryption do you want. you still need to decide that
[21:39] <_r00t_> xangua, I'd rather stick to what I've got thanks.
[21:40] <Jonii-^> escott, I'm unsure still. If it only was as easy to do full disk encryption on Ubuntu as it is on WIndows(with truecrypt), I'd probably use full-disk
[21:40] <Jonii-^> But I guess ecryptfs is good enough, if it's a lot easier to install and use
[21:40] <_r00t_> xangua, Don't forget I have to reboot into single user mode just to build all this crap.... Had it been in the repo I wouldn't have to go through that pain
[21:41] <xangua> _r00t_: build¿¿ those are just percompiled packages
[21:41] <Jonii-^> I get this impression they're both good enough
[21:41] <_r00t_> xangua, Nvidia driver is not
[21:41] <escott> Jonii-^, so ecryptfs is literally a checkbox. if you want to go with full disk they recommend LUKS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS
[21:42] <_r00t_> time to reboot - ciao
[21:43] <Jonii-^> escott, that's solely for full disk encryption and not for ecryptfs?
[21:44] <escott> the last two links are for full disk related things
[21:44] <escott> Jonii-^, for ecryptfs you just click the "encrypted home" during the install and thats all you need to do
[21:45] <Jonii-^> Oh, ok
[21:45] <Ebron> Anyone know a repo which contains a more recent version of calibre than the one in the regular ubuntu repos?
[21:45] <Jonii-^> I think I did do that on this install though
[21:45] <Jonii-^> But it didn't happen, I think
[21:46] <Jonii-^> Can I get my encrypted home now, after install?
[21:46] <Jonii-^> For my tabletop. My netbook still has to have ubuntu installed on it
[21:47] <escott> Jonii-^, if you type `mount` does it mention /home/username/.ecryptfs anywhere?
[21:49] <Nrm> Goodbye !
[21:49] <_r00t_> escott, you there
[21:49] <Jonii-^> escott, it mentions /home/username/.Private
[21:49] <Jonii-^> But not .ecryptfs
[21:50] <escott> Jonii-^, i think thats the same thing
[21:50] <loopy> windows died on me with the blue screen of death
[21:50] <escott> Jonii-^, its a fuse ecryptfs filesystem with "device" /home/username/.something mounted on /home/username
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> loopy: it happens
[21:50] <tensorpudding> loopy, we can't help you with that
[21:50] <loopy> now on ubuntu 11.04 should i update to 11.10?
[21:50] <_r00t_> can anyone help me diagnose why cpu scaling is not working ? It works perfectly fine in windows
[21:50] <tensorpudding> loopy, yes
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> loopy: is Natty working ok?
[21:51] <tensorpudding> loopy, unless you are depending on ubuntu classic, which is no longer going to be there
[21:51] <api984> hello
[21:51] <loopy> I had to go back to classic mode, this new look was too weird for me
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> loopy: if it's ok then why fix it if it ain't broke
[21:51] <written> is there a way to fix samba or win7 to connect together over samba?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> loopy: natty is still very supported :)
[21:51] <escott> _r00t_, in what way is it not working
[21:52] <escott> Jonii-^, if you have that then your home folder is encrypted, and if you were to logout, then it would be unaccessible
[21:52] <tensorpudding> it won't be supported for too much longer
[21:52] <_r00t_> escott, cpu scaling doesn't work.... suspend to ram doesn't work
[21:52] <tensorpudding> and there's no upgrade path except through 11.10
[21:52] <_r00t_> BS ubuntu tbh
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> written: the way I've got it to work is to run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER   then you can authenticate as your user with the password you set :)
[21:52] <api984> has anyone tryed to clone an ubuntu systen from single HDD to RAID config (raid in hardware mode, nvidia raid)
[21:52] <escott> !nowork
[21:52] <bloga> OLÁ ENTREM NO SERVIDOR irc.BrasIRC.org, e conecte num servidor aonde ircops/admins não leêm seus pvts.!
[21:52] <escott> !doesntwork | _r00t_
[21:53] <_r00t_> it does not work FACT --- period . I've tried all the kernels from 2.6 and am currently running 3.1 it doesn't work - ubuntu doesn't work
[21:53] <r3b00tx> Hi, i was trying to partition my hdd and trying to mount root and home under a logical volume. when i tried to set the boot flag for root partition, it was throwing an error on setting boot flag for a logical volume. should i proceed without a boot flag?
[21:53] <Jonii-^> /home/jonii/.Private on /home/jonii type ecryptfs (ecryptfs... <lotsa parameters>) is the only reference to ecryptfs when I typed mount
[21:54] <_r00t_> escott, can you help ?
[21:54] <escott> r3b00tx, yes
[21:54] <escott> _r00t_, without knowing specifics no
[21:54] <r3b00tx> escott, thanks :)
[21:54] <escott> Jonii-^, /home/jonii is encrypted
[21:54] <Jonii-^> So I get this impression I'd need to make a special private-folder(which would be encrypted by filesystem encryption) by a special command ecryptfs(<lotsa parameters>), and home is not encrypted at all
[21:55] <escott> Jonii-^, the ciphertext can be found in /home/jonii/.Private
[21:55] <_r00t_> escott, cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors does not exist
[21:55] <_r00t_> escott, that is the problem - please fix
[21:55] <escott> Jonii-^, it is loop mounted back onto /home/jonii to make it transparently accessible, and when you logout it is unmounted and only the ciphertext remains
[21:56] <escott> _r00t_, well does /sys/devices/system/cpu exist and what are its contents
[21:56] <Jonii-^> escott, okay, ty
[21:56] <_r00t_> escott, yes of course it does - or else I wouldn't be able to IRC
[21:58] <_r00t_> ls -l sys/devices/system/cpu | write escott << http://paste.ubuntu.com/728593/
[21:59] <javier_> hi! internet works very slow in ubuntu compared to windows. I'm for several days with this problems, and can't fix it. Someone can figure out what can I try? thanks!
[21:59] <Industrial> How do I disable Unit key bindings? windowskey + 1 / 2 / 3, windowskey +s etc ?
[21:59] <Industrial> Unity
[22:00] <_r00t_> j# linux
[22:00] <Drone4four> Has anyone else experienced a discrepency in how windows show up in expo workspaces compared with how they don’t show up in xfce’s workspaces in the panel?  See here: http://picpaste.com/Toubleshooting_Xfce_and_Compiz_-_panel-GGcoOy1m.png   And here: http://picpaste.com/Toubleshooting_Xfce_and_Compiz_-_expo-ZI9B3hiA.png   I’m running 32bit Xubuntu 11.10.
[22:00] <escott> _r00t_, and is there no cpufreq folder inside the cpu0 subdirectory
[22:01] <djskidd> Help
[22:01] <djskidd> SNES isn't opening
[22:01] <chaos_> no!!!!
[22:01] <djskidd> woops
[22:01] <djskidd> ZSNES
[22:01] <chaos_> the worls is over.. no nintendo!
[22:01] <djskidd> I just want to play some EarthBound
[22:01] <_r00t_> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/728598/
[22:02] <chaos_> dude try a diff emulator??
[22:02] <orp> Oneiric/11.10 freeze many times
[22:02] <djskidd> ZSNES has my saves
[22:02] <djskidd> And cheats
[22:02] <chaos_> 11.10 buggy but worth it
[22:02] <djskidd> And my copy utility I built
[22:02] <orp> yes i like but freez
[22:02] <daviddoria> I am trying to setup my machine to connect a VPN. The info I have is an IPSec ID, and IPSec secret, and Xauth username, and an IPSec gateway. I don't see fields for ID or Secret when I go to the  "VPN Connections -> Configure VPN" in Ubuntu 11.10. any suggestions of how to set this up?
[22:02] <djskidd> And pretty much everything else
[22:02] <orp> first was the nvidia
[22:03] <pucho> hey
[22:03] <orp> now i have not clue what can be
[22:03] <orp> but i still like it
[22:03] <david028> hi just upgraded to ubuntu 10.10. Now flash and mp3s freeze up the player. Ive installed restricted extras. How do I debug? (linux newbie)
[22:04] <orp> mate i have not a clue it happens to  me i think is nautilus
[22:04] <_r00t_> escott, any ideas ?
[22:04] <orp> do that on shell
[22:04] <djskidd> david028 Hmm... open console
[22:05] <Grossman> which one is best for gui development ? gtk ? qt ? wx ?
[22:05] <escott> _r00t_, thats an odd one. what kind of cpu is this?
[22:05] <djskidd> david028: Press Alt + F2
[22:05] <chaos_> gtk all day haha
[22:05] <pucho> does anyone know how I can connect to any of the Development Academy channels?
[22:05] <Grossman> @chaos sure bout it
[22:05] <Grossman> ?
[22:06] <chaos_> no
[22:06] <chaos_> no
[22:06] <david028> djskidd: ok I searched for logs and found "Failed to load module "module-alsa-card". Audio worked before update to 10.10
[22:06] <Grossman> so which one is easy to jump start with gui
[22:07] <_r00t_> escott, it's a q9550
[22:07] <orp> any one know if there is any software to place samsung keys to linux ?
[22:07] <chaos_> qt because it all comes in a nice package with an IDE examples etc..
[22:07] <NoReGreT> escott: there ?
[22:08] <Grossman> merci bro :)
[22:08] <escott> NoReGreT, yes
[22:08] <_r00t_> escott, I think it's a problem with acpi ... do you know what would be the best way to diagnose it ?
[22:09] <NoReGreT> escott: i created the path that gave the error. now, after login, the the directory is opened, that's it
[22:09] <NoReGreT> escott: opened with nautilus i mean
[22:09] <chaos_> whats up with avahi-daemon is it really needed
[22:10] <_r00t_> escott, You there ? Need your expert skills
[22:11] <chaos_> ya me too i need an avahi-daemon expert
[22:11] <vuln> Hello there. I enabled Compiz in my Ubuntu 11.10 and now I don't have the upper menu anymore and I can't open my terminal through ctrl+alt+t anymore
[22:11] <vuln> how can I fix it?
[22:11] <escott> _r00t_, i would think this is something acpi couldnt touch, but maybe. im afraid i dont know the answer to that one
[22:11] <escott> NoReGreT, does the window automatically open?
[22:12] <_r00t_> escott, ok .... thanks for trying
[22:12] <NoReGreT> escott: yeah, just after login
[22:12] <chaos_> vuln: what window manager are you using
[22:13] <escott> NoReGreT, so the culprit is nautilus. its remembering that the window was open and wants to open it again or something
[22:13] <vuln> chaos_: well, I just installed my Ubuntu 11.10 and enabled compiz
[22:13] <chaos_> nautilus = slow
[22:13] <vuln> and now it's all messed up
[22:13] <vuln> unity is gone and so on chaos_
[22:13] <escott> NoReGreT, do you also see messages about ejecting the usb disk. does it seem to think the usb disk was plugged in?
[22:13] <duckweed> hi, need a help. why did , when i edited setting in /etc/issue and /etc/lsb-release, it reset to default after a reboot. million thanx to anyone who can actually solve this prob for me
[22:14] <NoReGreT> escott: no messages of any sort, just the nautilus window opens with that direcroty
[22:15] <escott> NoReGreT, im not really sure. there are lots of nautilus settings, but none that i know of which would make it open a folder on startup
[22:15] <chaos_> ya i been fightin with my UI also. you might just logout to the sign on screen and login to unity2D
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> chaos_: if you find nautilusslow try rox or pcmanfm
[22:16] <chaos_> see if it makes a difference
[22:16] <NoReGreT> escott: hmm, also happened after logout then login..
 thanks I will check those out.
[22:17] <Drone4four> Under compiz there is a discrepancy in how windows show up in expo workspaces and with how they show up (or don’t show up) in xfce's workspaces in the panel.  Compare this image: http://picpaste.com/Toubleshooting_Xfce_and_Compiz_-_panel-GGcoOy1m.png  ...with this image: http://picpaste.com/Toubleshooting_Xfce_and_Compiz_-_expo-ZI9B3hiA.png   How I resolve this?   I’m running 32bit Xubuntu 11.10.
[22:17] <wunnle> hey all
[22:17] <chaos_> hey
[22:18] <wunnle> i have a problem with connecting to wireless network on ubuntu 11.10. At first it connects but after 2 secs it disconnects. What should i do?
[22:19] <ribot> hey
[22:19] <wunnle> it's a WPA with password.
[22:19] <ribot> urxvt doesnt respond to alt+number, so i'm having trouble changing windows in irssi
[22:19] <chaos_> you sure it connects and then disconnects
[22:19] <onsofth> hi, i'm trying to update java on ubuntu. i have no idea where to start.
[22:19] <ule> onsofth, google it
[22:20] <msqrdstr> alright, stupid question time: i set a keybinding (in metacity, via gconf-editor) to ^P accidentally, then set it to something else. whatever was ^P before is unset now, because it fails to work in e.g. chrome, irssi
[22:20] <msqrdstr> i've been unable to find what was ^P before, to reset it :x
[22:20] <onsofth> ule, i did and tried some solutions
[22:20] <onsofth> ule, i also downloaded it from the java website as a bin file, installed it, but when i went to check my java version, it said i was still using the old version
[22:21] <chaos_> onsofth: use the ubuntu software center or update app
[22:21] <escott> onsofth, you shouldn't be downloading java from anywhere. install it through apt
[22:21] <david028> sorry if anyone replied my irc webchat froze. I have no sound since upgrade to 10.10. How do I debug?
[22:21] <ule> onsofth, you have to uninstall first
[22:21] <djskidd> How do I get ZSNES out of fullscreen?
[22:21] <djskidd> Preferably without starting it?
[22:21] <vuln> Now that I set up Compiz, binds like ctrl+alt+t stopped working. How can I get them back?
[22:22] <onsofth> so in the software center, i should uninstall old java, then install new java from the software center as well?
[22:22] <msqrdstr> djskidd, f11?
[22:22] <djskidd> no dice
[22:22] <wunnle> chaos_, yes, i'm sure. it keeps dropping.
[22:22] <kuraj> hello everyone, I'm using ubuntu oneiric ocelot and I'm looking for a way to disable the behaviour that merges the maximized window's titlebar with the top pane... also it'd be great if i could somehow force the menu bar to be always visible instead of when mouse over
[22:22] <david028> djskidd: hi again do you know how to fix 10.10 audio? It worked before upgrade to 10.10
[22:22] <escott> !google | ule
[22:22] <onsofth> i'll try it, thanks everyone
[22:23] <djskidd> david028 Try a reboot
[22:23] <djskidd> david028 But first
[22:23] <_r00t_> !howto build kernel from source
[22:23] <kuraj> also I'm afraid to use ccsm since using it has ruined my experience with OO on numerous occasions
[22:23] <Ufunny> s up everybody
[22:23] <_r00t_> ubottu, I expected more
[22:23] <escott> _r00t_, if you have to go down that path, gentoo slackware will have good documentation
[22:23] <djskidd> david028 Check your sound settings, is anything set to 0?
[22:23] <vuln> Now that I set up Compiz, binds like ctrl+alt+t stopped working. I can't see my upper menu anymore, to open my applications and so on. How can I get them back?
[22:24] <Seveas> ubottu, don't worry, nobody expects any intelligence in here
[22:24] <ule> escott, ok.. sorry
[22:24] <djskidd> ubottu, am I mad?
[22:24] <escott> david028, depends on what kind of audio card you have. you need to identify that with lspci or lshw
[22:24] <_r00t_> escott, gentoo also fixed the gnome mouse scrolling issue ... you're right - it's a better distro
[22:24] <auronandace> !kernel | _r00t_
[22:24] <djskidd> wait, what?
[22:24] <david0288> djskidd:yea tried a few reboots and reinstalling drivers
[22:25] <_r00t_> !Mainline
[22:25] <djskidd> david0288 Put a song on in Banshee, tell me when it starts playing.
[22:25] <_r00t_> yep I've tried mainline... time to build my own :(
[22:25] <chaos_> ubottu: 1 + 1
[22:25] <msqrdstr> any ideas on the keybinding? :\
[22:25] <david0288> djskidd: Banshee freezes
[22:25] <Seveas> nothing like your own kernel to make you feel at home
[22:26] <wunnle> anyone knows about this frequent connection problem? i'm connecting from my mobile phone right now and i need internet. real one.
[22:26] <wunnle> *frequent connection dropping
[22:26] <djskidd> david0288 Press Alt + F2
[22:26] <_r00t_> actually I'll copy the .config from ubuntu and tweak it but my problem is how to build initrd
[22:26] <djskidd> david0288 a box has popped up?
[22:26] <urlin2u> wunnle, wireless or etho?
[22:27] <djskidd> ...
[22:27] <wunnle> urlin2u, wireless, WPA.
[22:27] <djskidd> is that a yes?
[22:27] <kronoman> there is any way to remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[22:27] <urlin2u> wunnle, your router?
[22:27] <escott> _r00t_, i think there is a mkinitrd script
[22:27] <kronoman> unity is not working for my computer at all
[22:27] <Seveas> kronoman, probably not, but removing ubuntu-desktop isn't that bad
[22:27] <david0288> I think everything freezes at sound. IRC, youtube, Banshee
[22:27] <chaos_> use unity 2D, its great
[22:27] <wunnle> urlin2u, it's huawei.
[22:28] <djskidd> david0288 message me
[22:28] <chaos_> or gnome its great too
[22:28] <urlin2u> wunnle, or a shred at like a university etc, and what card?
[22:28] <kronoman> unity 2d is too slow
[22:28] <kronoman> Im using gnome classic
[22:28] <_r00t_> escott, mkinitrd: command not found
[22:28] <urlin2u> shared doh* wunnle
[22:28] <escott> _r00t_, update-initramfs
[22:28] <chaos_> slow for what
[22:28] <kronoman> I must get rid of unity, unity2d, and gnome 3D
[22:28] <kronoman> I have a small hard disk and I need the free space
[22:28] <kronoman> but dont know what packages to remove
[22:28] <kronoman> I want to have only gnome-classic
[22:28] <chaos_> yes they are all complex code on top of code
[22:28] <wunnle> urlin2u, no no, i'm back at mom's home (: how can i check what card i have? (i'm a linux noob)
[22:28] <_r00t_> escott, thanks !
[22:29] <Seveas> kronoman, do some chainsawing with debfoster
[22:29] <urlin2u> kronoman, having that little of disc space is not a good idea.
[22:29] <_r00t_> escott, so update-initramfs will pull all my /lib/modules/new-kernel/ right ?
[22:29] <david0288> djskidd: message you how? (newbie here trying hard to leave windows..)
[22:29] <escott> _r00t_, never used it. don't know what it does
[22:29] <kronoman> urlin2u, cant purchase anything else, Im on 3rd world, all the PC made from used parts
[22:30] <kronoman> /dev/sda1             9,9G  3,2G  6,2G  35% /
[22:30] <_r00t_> man update-initramfs
[22:30] <urlin2u> wunnle, if you run in the terminal lspci a lot of stuff is listed just look for the card.
[22:30] <carl_> testing testing
[22:31] <aulin> I can't seem to get crontab to work. :/ Using crontab -e, adding line */10 * * * * tar -zcf /home/johan/Dropbox/backup_notes/notes_$(date %Y%m%d).tar.gz -C /home/johan/Dropbox notes
[22:31] <riffautae> kronoman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[22:31] <Seveas> carl_, reading you loud and clear!
[22:31] <riffautae> kronoman: includes small hdd
[22:31] <wunnle> urlin2u,  Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter
[22:31] <carl_> noted
[22:31] <kronoman> riffautae, thanks!
[22:31] <duckweed> hi, need a help. why did , when i edited setting in /etc/issue and /etc/lsb-release, it reset to default after a reboot. million thanx to anyone who can actually solve this prob for me
[22:32] <carl_> anyway, anyone have any tips to reduce the 11.04 install footprint?
[22:32] <urlin2u> kronoman, understandable but if all you have left is the amount of the unity desktop which is very tiny you risk having the disc filled just with a log and being locked out, and having to clean something out with a booted cd, or by possiblt chrooting in, not very good practice.
[22:32] <_r00t_> escott, kernel downloaded - headphones plugged in ... here we go
[22:32] <kronoman> wunnle, try in a terminal > sudo lshw -C display
[22:32] <riffautae> duckweed: those are set by the system. what are you attempting to accomplish?
[22:33] <Seveas> carl_, gratutitous use of rm and dpkg -P
[22:33] <_r00t_> damn it .... what music player does ubuntu use ?
[22:33] <riffautae> _r00t_: i think banshee
[22:33] <carl_> banshee
[22:33] <duckweed> riffaute: i want to make a fork out of a ubuntu for my local users.
[22:33] <_r00t_> riffautae,  I was using tangerine last night ?
[22:33] <carl_> clementine?
[22:33] <_r00t_> ah yes !!!!
[22:34] <kronoman> urlin2u, also I have a problem with the graphics card, I got this very expensive geforce2 mx 400 and yet unity does not recognize it,
[22:34] <_r00t_> damn it .... I just did apt-get install tangerine
[22:34] <riffautae> duckweed: you will have to find the package that is in charge of naming the release and modify it. might be the kernel package or one of its depedencies
[22:34] <dynafish> hi everyone
[22:34] <wunnle> kronoman, display?
[22:34] <kronoman> product: NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
[22:34] <_r00t_> man tangerine - DAAP server - doh
[22:34] <kronoman> wunnle, were you trying to find your display? that command shows my display on terminal
[22:34] <dynafish> was wondering if I could ask a quick quesion
[22:34] <api984> hello
[22:34] <kronoman> wunnle,  in my case> product: NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
[22:34] <duckweed> riffaute: how can i do that??? and why it keeps reverting to default
[22:35] <riffautae> dynafish: dont have to ask :)
[22:35] <dynafish> well here it goes
[22:35] <wunnle> kronoman, no, i'm just trying to connect a WPA network which is dropping frequently.
[22:35] <_r00t_> thanks carl_ - I has sounds
[22:35] <api984> can ubuntu be cloned (with all installed software and config) i have a complex HDD config?
[22:35] <djskidd> Screw it
[22:35] <djskidd> Can't even stay on to get help
[22:35] <aulin> Can anyone help me with getting crontab to work?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> api984: use dd or rsync
[22:35] <Seveas> api984, yes. rsync is your friend
[22:35] <dynafish> I installed lubuntu on my netbook with an encrypted home and gparted shows swap as unknown fs
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> aulin: are you using a desktop UI?
[22:36] <wunnle> kronoman, i don't want to find my "optimus" display, i've found it last week and it annoyed me enough :P
[22:36] <aulin> ActionParsnip: Nope. Command line.
[22:36] <aulin> I can't seem to get crontab to work. :/ Using crontab -e, adding line */10 * * * * tar -zcf /home/johan/Dropbox/backup_notes/notes_$(date %Y%m%d).tar.gz -C /home/johan/Dropbox notes
[22:36] <riffautae> duckweed: here is a thread on a mailing list on the very topic https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-March/016602.html read all the posts
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> aulin: and does what you want to schedule need root access?
[22:36] <dynafish> I tried to run stressapptest to load my ram and it froze my mahine (was going to use free -m to see swap under load)
[22:36] <api984> i am trying to make 3xHDD in fakeRAID (raid 0) , 1 HDD sigle installed ubuntu. transfering from single to dmraid aka fakeraid
[22:36] <wunnle> urlin2u,  Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter is my card.
[22:36] <riffautae> duckweed: this is one relevent link someone posts https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization?action=show&redirect=InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[22:37] <aulin> ActionParsnip: No, it's just taring a dir under my regular user
[22:37] <dynafish> so I am wondering if ubuntu is indeed using my swap
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> aulin: ok thats cool, so is that every 10 days run the command? Is that right?
[22:37] <api984> Seveas: i still need NOT to copy over fstab and /boot
[22:37] <carl_> what is the actual use of swap?
[22:37] <riffautae> api984: you added 2 drive to a drive that had ubuntu on it and you want to use all 3 in a raid?
[22:37] <dynafish> it shows 0
[22:37] <_r00t_> bunzip2 -c linux-3.1.tar.bz2 | tar xvf - && cp /usr/src/linux-headers-3.1.0-030100rc10-generic/.config .
[22:38] <aulin> It should be every 10 minutes, every day, month, and weekday
[22:38] <api984> riffautae: nop
[22:38] <riffautae> api984: ok so you just have 3 more drives and want to raid?
[22:38] <_r00t_> make -j17 oldconfig
[22:38] <api984> riffautae: 3x160gb raid 0, 1hdd of 500gb ubuntu installed. need to transfer from 500gb to raid config
[22:38] <duckweed> riffaute: i dont really get an answer from there, but my gut says , i better leave them as it is. just change the other. thanx for the info!
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> aulin: ok let me check
[22:38] <_r00t_> make xconfig failed
[22:38] <david028> djskidd you there?
[22:39] <_r00t_> Unable to find the QT4 tool qmake. Trying to use QT3
[22:39] <riffautae> api984: the data or the whole install?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> aulin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/crontab-every-10-min/
[22:39] <api984> riffautae: whole install
[22:39] <Seveas> api984, that's why rsync has --exclude :)
[22:39] <api984> Seveas: yup
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> aulin: I'd make a script, then cron the script
[22:39] <api984> Seveas: still thinking what needs to be excluded
[22:39] <riffautae> dynafish: post your /etc/fstab to a pastbin
[22:40] <david028> can someone help me fix my sound on ubuntu 10.10. It worked on 10.4
[22:40] <Seveas> api984, /sys /proc /dev /tmp and /etc/fstab
[22:40] <api984> Seveas: and /boot
[22:40] <Seveas> maybe
[22:40] <kronoman> david028, what is the problem with your sound? no sound at all?
[22:40] <api984> Seveas: grub menu.lst
[22:40] <Seveas> depends on how you installed the system you're cloning to
[22:40] <aulin> ActionParsnip: Thanks. But shouldn't it work to just run the command straight up? Running tar is even in the example in the comments of the crontab file.
[22:40] <_r00t_> apt-get install qt4-make
[22:40] <kronoman> david028, I solved my sound going to a terminal and using alsamixer to check the volume of each channel, some were disabled
[22:40] <api984> Seveas: disk wont be /dev/sdX it will be something else
[22:40] <david028> kronoman: freezes everything that tries to use it
[22:41] <riffautae> api984: you cant just copy grub to a diff hdd especially a raid
[22:41] <Seveas> last clone I did was to exactly the same hdd (well, ssd drive) and was simply booting from livecd and ssh+dd
[22:41] <api984> riffautae: i thought so
[22:41] <_r00t_> sod it .... I'll use make menuconfig instead
[22:41] <aulin> ActionParsnip: Is there a GUI for crontab, though? I might try that instead.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> aulin: not sure dude, worth exploring
[22:41] <riffautae> api984: you have to install it and figure out how to get the bios to regognise your /boot partition
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> aulin: there is gnome-schedule
[22:41] <api984> riffautae: i am making a fresh same version install on raid
[22:41] <riffautae> api984: on my NAS with raid i just have another drive for the os so that i dont have to fuss with that and then backup that drive to the raid
[22:42] <api984> riffautae: after new install i will try to overwrite
[22:42] <david028> kronoman:Nope theyre up
[22:42] <wunnle> I can't connect to a WPA network. My network card is  Atheros AR9285 and router is Huawei something. I use Ubuntu 11.10, and i'm connecting from my mobile phone, i  need "real" internet. Any ideas?
[22:43] <aulin> ActionParsnip: Thanks! I'll try using that.
[22:43] <api984> riffautae: what do you suggest about using a memory stick as swap?
[22:43] <wunnle> Edit: I can connect, if you call it connecting. Network keeps disconnecting frequently.
[22:43] <lee__> hello every1
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> api984: flash storage has limited writes. if you use swap a lot it will shorten its life
[22:44] <dahlia> how do I set 32 bit color in kubuntu virtual box guest? Ive installed guest additions but I can only get 24 bit color
[22:44] <riffautae> api984: you can put swap on raid, the memory stick will get worn out quickly
[22:44] <api984> ActionParsnip: i agree
[22:44] <kronoman> david028, and what card do you have? does it shows up in lspci?
[22:44] <api984> riffautae: agreed
[22:44] <david028> kronoman: oh sorry I ment 11.10 not 10.10
[22:45] <_r00t_> make -j5
[22:45] <_r00t_> in the old days it would take 45 minutes to build a kernel
[22:45] <david028> kronoman: intil n10/ich 7 family hd audio c
[22:45] <david028> kronoman:intel
[22:46] <riffautae> api984: i think i have it on the small drive with /
[22:46] <riffautae> api984: if you have enough ram the swap wont matter much
[22:46] <wunnle> i guess i have to use windows right now.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> _r00t_: my first gentoo build took 2 days
[22:46] <wunnle> :rage quit:
[22:47] <api984> riffautae: low ram
[22:47] <_r00t_> api echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[22:47] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip, :) You rox !
[22:47] <api984> riffautae: i put one old module today making it 3gb ram
[22:47] <api984> riffautae: 2gb not enough
[22:48] <api984> riffautae: pc slows down when ram usage is over 90%, starts blocking, swapping.....
[22:48] <Adrenalin> Hello world !
[22:49] <david028> kronoman: ok in system settings>sound there is nothing listed under hardware or output
[22:49] <_r00t_> is building a kernel http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/tbtcvyds/Workspace1_001.jpeg
[22:50] <kkamal> hello, I'm using ubuntu 11.10 on a virtual machine, and dislay it on the 2nd screen with resultion 1920x1080, but i can't set that resolution, it is not available, can i configure it somewhere ???
[22:51] <EuroNerd> kkamal, did u install VirtualBox Additions within the virtual machine?
[22:51] <incisso> It's depend the Virtual Machine
[22:52] <EuroNerd> kkamal - I mean the VB Guest Additions.
[22:53] <kronoman> david028, weird, does alsa rdetects it?
[22:53] <NoReGreT> is there a nautilus setting that makes it open a window with a directory after login ?
 i dont know right off hand but you can change the resolution. get the virtualbox manual from the website
[22:54] <david028> koronoman alsa rdetects? how do I do that?
[22:54] <_r00t_> this eeesss taking time
[22:54] <M0TRN_th1> Unity sucks but I have decided to give it a chance. How do I get "Workspace Switcher" off the launcher bar?
[22:54] <chaos_> its a command line argument. there is alot of hidden options that are only accessible from the command line utility for virtualbox
[22:55] <_r00t_> M0TRN_th1, we know it sux tell us something we don't already know
[22:55] <david028> kronoman: I put it in terminal and get usage: /sbin/alsa {unload/reload/force-unload/force-reload/suspend/resume}
[22:55] <kronoman> david028, google your sound card, I tried and there is lots of reports of problems of no sound, some forum must have the answer, I cant because Im on a really slow connection
[22:55] <chaos_> ya we know it sucks haha
[22:55] <M0TRN_th1> _r00t_, lol
[22:55] <kronoman> david028, alsamixer
[22:55] <M0TRN_th1> why is oneiric then released with it and not even fallback by default?
[22:55] <kronoman> david028, alsamixer shows the card, etc, on mine on top left
[22:55] <c_k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_11.04 says to use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" but thats not right, is it?
[22:55] <_r00t_> M0TRN_th1, I use gnome 2 / compiz - it works no need to fux it
[22:55] <M0TRN_th1> _r00t_, heh ok
[22:56] <aulin> ActionParsnip: gnome-schedule helped me find the error. Apparently crontab uses % as a special character, so I had to backslash escape the %-signs for the date command. It works now! :)
[22:56] <chaos_> in a year ubuntu will have a grip on it and it will be better then anything
[22:56] <david028> kronoman: alsamixer shows my card ok hda intel realtek alc1200
[22:56] <M0TRN_th1> I already installed the fallback package but the System menu is gone and other fuckage
[22:56] <M0TRN_th1> so I thought I'd try unity
[22:56] <kronoman> david028, hit F2 on alsamixer, and check all the info it shows
[22:57] <Guest56066> Hi everyone, could anyone help me install adobe flash on Ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[22:57] <kronoman> david028, /proc/asound/* has lots of files with info on it too about the sound
[22:57] <_r00t_> sudo apt-get install qt3-dev-tools libqt3-mt-dev # if you plan to use 'make xconfig' || D'Oh now you tell me ... kernel is building
[22:57] <kkamal> chaos_, EuroNerd, am using parallels on mac os x
[22:57] <chaos_> <-- uses multiple window managers depending on how he feels and what he gots to do
[22:57] <kronoman> david028, try turning on/off each one of the channels on alsamixer using the M key also, and going on the other views with TAB
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: enable partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[22:57] <kronoman> david028, usually when I have problems with my card is because a channel is off
[22:58] <M0TRN_th1> what packages should I install to get decent gnome functionality back?
[22:58] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I don't see a partner repo in the software center?
[22:58] <david028> kronoman: version 1.0.24. dont understand the rest
[22:59] <kronoman> M0TRN_th1, gnome-shell , I did it and you can use gnome3 or gnome classic when you log in back
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: you can uncomment it in /etc/apt/sources.list if you want, remember to run: sudo apt-get update   afterwards
[22:59] <EuroNerd> kkamal, I apologize then, I have no experience with Parallels.  VB is as good and it's free, so it's my preferred virtualization tool.
[22:59] <ZeitFight> Is there a way to copy/paste the content of the terminal window without using the mouse?
[22:59] <kronoman> david028, everything inside /proc/asound is the info of your card, try turning on the channels using the M key on alsamixer
[22:59] <kronoman> on each channel
[23:00] <EuroNerd> kkamal, in fact you could try VB as a solution to your problem.  ;)
[23:00] <kronoman> david028, on a terminal> cat /proc/asound/cards does show your card?
[23:00] <david028> kronoman: yea there all on.  I forgot to reboot into the overclocked profile. Kernel is still compiling - Tubleweed http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/jxb6ql3u/Workspace1_002.jpeg
[23:01] <david028> kronoman: everything that tries to use audio freezes
[23:01] <Pici> _r00t_: We don't need a play-by-play, thanks.
[23:01]  * _r00t_ wonders if there's a Makefile switch to show full debugging during make
[23:01] <kronoman> david028, I give up, I dont have a clue then :o
[23:01] <Ntemis> hi
[23:01] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: That didn't work, firefox still asks for a plugin?
[23:01] <ZeitFight> ActionParsnip: How?
[23:02] <kkamal> EuroNerd, this is the 2nd time a re install the box, I don't have time and motivation to do that again, I thought it would be possible to configure that manually somewhere
[23:02] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: and chromium
[23:02] <Reidy> Heya, I got a little problem with my ubuntu 11.10, running on a lenovo ideapad U460 (and installed via netinstall). When I start the distro, it show me that : http://pastebin.com/aB1KQafs in a black background. I updated the system with the latest update and so, and I don't know how to correct it, I can access to the console mode, but nothing else.
[23:02] <Ntemis> am facing a frustrating issue here, i created an raid array and i cannot format it to ext4
[23:02] <_r00t_> Pici - .ignore works - no ?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: did the package install ok?
[23:02] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: mhm
[23:02] <Ntemis> mkfs -t ext4 -q /dev/md0partprobe ; mkfs -t ext4 -q /dev/md0
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: did you close the browser then rerun it?
[23:03] <foolove> I am wanting to do the best narrowing down as possible on searching log data.......   with egrep 'string1|string2|string3'  i believe does string1 or string2 or string3    I am wanting to find string1 and string2 and string3 in a line not or i want all conditions to match
[23:03] <Ntemis> Could not stat /dev/md0partprobe --- No such file or directory
[23:03] <Ntemis> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[23:03] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I closed them before installing, and after starting them after install and seeing nothing worked, restarted both and tried again
[23:03] <Pici> _r00t_: This channel is busy enough as it is.  #ubuntu-offtopic exists for precisely this reason.
[23:03] <Ntemis> what am doing wrong?
[23:03] <Reidy> Ntemis: try to use gparted ?
[23:03] <wxl> how can one encrypt home post-install?
[23:03] <Ntemis> cant
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> ZeitFight: just pipe like you normally would, xclip is a cli interface to the clipboard, or you can use pastebinit which will make a url
[23:04] <Ntemis> am on a server with only ssh
[23:04] <Reidy> Ntemis: Can't you boot it via livecd on this server?
[23:04] <david028> kronoman: I just tried this help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure Top command, I get libasound2 already the newest version 0 upgraded, 0 installed internal error no file name for libasound2
[23:04] <Ntemis> yes
[23:05] <Ntemis> but why i do that, if i put right command will do it!
[23:05] <bil_> holy fack, whats the nickserv kill ghost syntax?
[23:05] <bil_> haha
[23:05] <_r00t_> foolove, cat logfile | grep string1 | grep string2 | | grep string3 LOL ¬¬¬!!!!!!
[23:05] <Ntemis> just need the right command to format md0 (raid) to ext4
[23:05] <Osmodivs_> Hello. After a sensors-detect scan I was prompted to ype 'service module-init-tools start' But I get this error (I think) message: http://pastebin.com/txmunmUA  What's wrong?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: did you try and install flash before?
[23:06] <_r00t_> Ntemis, your raid device should be just /dev/md0
[23:06] <chaos_> exit()
[23:06] <ZeitFight> ActionParsnip: hmm but I can do that without using the mouse?
[23:06] <Ntemis> it is
[23:06] <Ntemis> now i nned to format it
[23:06] <Ntemis> but 11.10 dont let me
[23:06] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I tried to install the flash plugin in the software center for firefox, but then i realized i wanted to use chromium instead. I uninstalled it through the software center before installing this one though?
[23:06] <emet> Ubuntu
[23:06] <Ntemis> i had not this problems on 10.04
[23:06] <_r00t_> Ntemis, so what's the problemo ? mkfs.ntfs /dev/md0  or something ... are you partitioning it ?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ZeitFight: for example.  ps -ef | pastebinit    wil make a URL you can then give peaople, othe link will be a pastebin if the output of the ps command
[23:07] <Ntemis> no formatting it to ext4
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: can you give a pastebin of:  uname -a; cat /etc/lsb-release; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[23:07] <glitchd> someone think they could assist me in getting this done? http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/784138-howto-boot-existing-ubuntu-partition-using-virtualbox-inside-windows/
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: I'd ask in #vbox
[23:07] <ZeitFight> ActionParsnip: Alright now I follow. Thanks :)
[23:08] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[23:08] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/paWf87Dz
[23:08] <iosolidar> i'm using ubuntu server 8.04 on a virtualbox: is there a way to change the resolution?
[23:08] <foolove> ya i just googled the answer thanks root
[23:09] <dasy2k1> brightspark: do you have all of gstreamer-plugins-foo   where foo is good, bad and ugly installed?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386 adobe-flashplugin:i386 adobe-flash-properties-gtk:i386; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get iclean; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[23:10] <brightspark> dasy2k1: I do, as well as some other similar-sounding ones (-base, -bad-multiverse)
[23:10] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: Jesus do you know this off memory or experience?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: long experience of the OS dude
[23:12] <dasy2k1> I would have added a sudo apt-get update before all of them too
[23:12] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: It seems to have found some stuff lying around from my previous install etc, i'm going to let it run and I'll brb. Thanks for all the help
[23:12] <brightspark> dasy2k1: All of these show up as gstreamer0.10-plugins-foo; there are none without the number (I presume a version number) available to download.
[23:13] <_r00t_> #!ciao
[23:14] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, i am asking in that room also atm
[23:14] <dasy2k1> brightspark:  yeh, thats just the version numbers, in previous versions there were metapackages without the version number that just installed the one with the relevant version number, seems that has been done away with in 11.1
[23:14] <dasy2k1> *11.10
[23:15] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I hate to be picky but I was running a distribution before this for about a week ... and it had a 64bit version of flash with a 32 bit wrapper or something. The performance was about 2-3x the current. DO you have any idea what that might be?
[23:15] <brightspark> dasy2k1: The update found nothing new.  Also this is a 10.10 install, not an 11.10 one.
[23:15]  * dasy2k1 shrugs
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: yeah the 64bit flash is now officially released and stable so is in the repos
[23:17] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I don't think it was the 64bit verison, I think it was a 32bit version with a wrapper of some kind?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: it used to be that 64bit users used the wrapper or could manually install
[23:17] <brightspark> When I run in terminal, I see a bunch of output about unhandled XML, and some more detail on the gstreamer error.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: 32bit has had flash support for ages, the 64bit was always a testing thing but worked well imho
[23:18] <dasy2k1> brightspark:  If you pastebin that hopefully somone will be able to make head or tail of it
[23:20] <Faizul> hows UDS ?
[23:20] <fission6> does 'dig' command tool have a channel
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> fission6: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/dig/ may help, what's up?
[23:21] <stevecam> fission6, i don't think so, try asking in ##linux
[23:22] <stevecam> your question regarding dig that is, not weather dig has a channel
[23:22] <brightspark> dasy2k1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/728652/
[23:23] <Guest56066> ActionParsnip: I'll have to look around. Though this works it is exactly the same performance I had on Linux mint -- less than 15fps on a 360 video. When I used the 32bit version with the wrapper I got full speed up to 720p
[23:23] <fission6> i want to find authority nameserver for a site but dont get any ActionParsnip
[23:24] <splnet> Anyone know how to install ksymoops? I'm on 10.04
[23:24] <laHammer> upgrate
[23:24] <splnet> apt-cache search ksymoops returns null
[23:24] <genjix> hey
[23:24] <dasy2k1> brighspark: i think it has somthing to do with ffmpeg, I will have to leave it to the experts on that.
[23:24] <genjix> so i made my own ppa, and now want to test out the packages i built
[23:24] <genjix> https://launchpad.net/~zgenjix/+archive/libbitcoin
[23:25] <genjix> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/zgenjix/libbitcoin/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:25] <genjix> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/zgenjix/libbitcoin/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:25] <genjix> any ideas why it isn't working?
[23:25] <genjix> i follow the instructions on my own page.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest56066: you can always grab the 64bit .so file and put it in /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins   and it will work
[23:25] <genjix> added the 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:26] <brightspark> dasy2k1: thanks for your time
[23:26] <fission6> i dont get any authoratative service for digging any site
[23:26] <dasy2k1> np brightspark
[23:27] <bekks> fission6: Thats a name service problem on your side, not a "dig" problem.
 if are un source list and error is (404  Not Found) the url is correct
[23:27] <splnet> Anyone know which repo has https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/ksymoops ?
[23:28] <fission6> bekks: what do you mean?
[23:28] <fission6> bekks: i want to find all subdomains for a given domain
[23:29] <splnet> I have multiverse and universe.. ksymoops should be a pretty standard app
[23:30] <cracker> salam
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> genjix: https://launchpad.net/~stretch/+archive/bitcoin is a bitcoin ppa if you want a client
[23:31] <genjix> ActionParsnip: thanks, but im building something else :p
[23:31] <fission6> i guess i cant do this hm
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fission6: nmap may be able to do it
[23:34] <fission6> what does this mean in dig ; Transfer failed.
[23:34] <splnet> fission6: The domain owner can restrict zone transfers which it sounds what you are looking for. This is for security reasons
[23:35] <paolo3142> /home/my/Scaricati/buduscript_3477_2808.tar.gz
[23:35] <fission6> splnet: so you just have to happen to "know" the subdomain if you want to connect to it
[23:36] <splnet> fission6: yep
[23:36] <fission6> damn
[23:36] <fission6> ok
[23:36] <fission6> thanks
[23:37] <splnet> fission6: sure
[23:37] <paolo3142> /home/my/Scaricati/buduscript_3477_2808.tar.gz
[23:38] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[23:38] <Reidy> Heya, I got a little problem with my ubuntu 11.10, running on a lenovo ideapad U460 (and installed via netinstall). When I start the distro, it show me that : http://pastebin.com/aB1KQafs in a black background. I updated the system with the latest update and so, and I don't know how to correct it, I can access to the console mode, but nothing else.
[23:40] <pangolin> -bqbb<EMAIL_ADDRESS>aleale!*@* <EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:40] <pangolin> fail!
[23:43] <paolo3142> /home/my/Scaricati/buduscript_3477_2808.tar.gz
[23:44] <splnet> Ah: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/ksymoops/2.4.11-1ubuntu1  "Status:deleted"
[23:44] <suspa> salut tt l'monde
[23:44] <splnet> So someone arbitrarily decided to delete this?? What is going on
[23:44] <JViz> is there a binary package for gcc-3.x.x?
[23:45] <JViz> for lucid
[23:46] <JViz> would I be better off finding and installing an older version of ubuntu?
[23:46] <HulkHogan> JViz: yes
[23:46] <JViz> HulkHogan: yes to using an older version of ubuntu?
[23:46] <HulkHogan> JViz: yes
[23:47] <JViz> lol
[23:47] <JViz> HulkHogan: any idea on how old of a version i'd be looking for?
[23:47] <HulkHogan> JViz: =) well whats the prob exactly?
[23:48] <JViz> i need gcc 3 for using bitbake
[23:48] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[23:49] <JViz> it's one of the requirements, apparently it doesn't work with gcc 4.x
[23:49] <HulkHogan> JViz: u can use apt pinning to grab older packages
[23:49] <JViz> HulkHogan: i'm going to go read about apt pinning now
[23:50] <CobraKhan007> anybody know where i can configure default smb login details for nautilus?
[23:50] <HulkHogan> JViz: but not sure if that will break ur current OS requirements, since gcc4 comes default
[23:50] <alexcockell> Evening - anyone around?
[23:51] <JViz> HulkHogan: if it completely replaces GCC 4, i'm sure it would break my OS
[23:51] <JViz> preferably, i'd like to have them installed side by side, with gcc 4 as the default
[23:51] <BlouBlou> ubuntu 11.10 comes with backports enabled by default, should I disable it?
[23:51] <HulkHogan> JViz: apt-pinning downgrades it
[23:51] <JViz> ack
[23:51] <alexcockell> I was hoping to flag the existence of a bug I've filed - which has been caused by a showstopping couple of changes..
[23:52] <stevecam> how do i choose my screensaver in the new ubuntu?
[23:52] <splnet> JViz: you can build it from source  if you are ambitious
[23:52] <agoole> my firefox window has these orange move/resize circles around it
[23:52] <agoole> how do I remove them ?
[23:52] <JViz> splnet: i tried that, apparently you can't compile gcc3 with gcc4 under normal circumstances
[23:53] <BlouBlou> because I don't know if this may break my system or not
[23:53] <JViz> splnet: apparently gcc4 code requirements are more strict than previous versions
[23:54] <splnet> JViz: right maybe build a tree on an older system and copy it over?
[23:55] <splnet> gcc3 tree
[23:55] <agoole> does anyone know how to remove these giant orange resize circles ?
[23:57] <JViz> hmmmm
[23:57] <JViz> splnet: i want to make this easier for other people, maybe i should look into making bitbake work with gcc4?
[23:57] <BlouBlou> so, anyone knows if I should disable backports (wich come enabled by default) or not?
[23:58] <BlouBlou> which*
[23:59] <agoole> does anyone else know how to disable the resize circles ?
[23:59] <pooltable> help save a file i want to print as a pdf ?