[03:17] <Cruel_dog> How to change the resolutions of xserver?
[03:17] <chongbook> i did it from a breezy install that i installed yesterday and never updated
[03:17] <laozi> there's no updates to install...
[03:17] <chongbook> oh
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> AngryElf: Ya got kdm but Gnome selected for the session, I'd guess.  Ever have KDE installed?
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> bohdan: Googled "damn small linux system monitor"  ;)
[03:17] <mcpowley> oh my god, is there any way to disable the shift backspace restarting gnome?
[03:17] <bitlooter> does anyone know if dapper has drivers for 3com wireless cards?
[03:17] <mcpowley> it's driving me crazy
[03:17] <chongbook> in SPM you could try doing a refresh and then 'mark all updates'
[03:17] <bitlooter> i thought it will finally be included
[03:18] <zitch> Does anybody know how to unmap the switch console keys (Ctrl-Alt-F#)?
[03:18] <laozi> I have yet to see any evidence of this easy ubuntu upgrade everyone talks about.
[03:18] <bohdan> tonyyarusso: lol i tried that i kept gettin asmon and asmem
[03:18] <chongbook> laozi, worked great for me today
[03:18] <laozi> chongbook, yeah, tried that and tried singling out just the update-manager.
[03:18] <Cruel_dog> How to change the resolutions of xserver?
[03:18] <bohdan> mcpowley: are u using xgl?
[03:18] <Cruel_dog> the screen resolutions in xserver thing
[03:18] <Cruel_dog> whats the command for that?
[03:18] <Cruel_dog> the screen resolutions in xserver thing
[03:18] <laozi> chongbook, you're lucky!
[03:18] <Cruel_dog> to change
[03:18] <bitlooter> laozi you can also do upgrade from commandline if synaptic doesn't work
[03:19] <malegria> hi, i don't quite get it: i'm coming from windows and had set up a local server there to test my websites (with xampp). now i wanna do this with my shiny dapper drake, but i don't understand it. what i found on the web seems to be a setup for a "real" server. is it posible to get something like xampp? i suppose lamp..
[03:19] <chongbook> laozi, not so much
[03:19] <mcpowley> bohdan: Thats the thing, I have xgl set to run when I type in thefuture, but I never type it in...so why does shift backspace mess me up?
[03:19] <chongbook> somehow i have varying versions of nvidia-glx and the nvidia kernel module
[03:19] <Cruel_dog> How to change the screen resolutions in xserver?
[03:19] <bohdan> mcpowley: mm i had to add a line in sumthin or another lol
[03:20] <bohdan> mcpowley: 2 secs and i'll find it lol
[03:20] <Cruel_dog> How to change the screen resolutions in xserver?
[03:20] <mcpowley> bohdan: Thanks much, this is bothering me to no end.
[03:20] <Cruel_dog> How to change the screen resolutions in xserver?
[03:20] <wubrgamer> hey guys , is reiserFS compatible with grub ?
[03:20] <Cruel_dog> whats the command to enter in the xserver configuration mode?
[03:20] <snoopy> yes wubrgamer
[03:21] <wubrgamer> it'll "just work"
[03:21] <wubrgamer> cause i know jfs or xfs doesn't
[03:21] <chongbook> xfs doesnt
[03:21] <Cruel_dog> whats the command to enter in the xserver configuration mode?
[03:21] <Dreamglider> help me set DMA on cdrom to on
[03:21] <wubrgamer> alright
[03:21] <wubrgamer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:21] <Cruel_dog> thx
[03:22] <laozi> Would there by any difference between downloading the whole DAPPER CD versus doing the automatic upgrade?  Because at this point the automatic thing is crap.
[03:22] <bohdan> mcpowley: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[03:23] <malegria> nobody for the server question?
[03:23] <bitlooter> laozi go here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[03:23] <kbrooks> laozi: How the f is it f'ing crap
[03:23] <bohdan> mcpowley: running "xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us" should fix it according to the forum lol
[03:23] <laozi> bitlooter, Yeah, that's the directions I've been following, which has given my my problems.
[03:23] <kazuki> Is there a way to figure out what partion / is on from inside linux ?
[03:23] <laozi> kbrooks, Because it doesn't f'ing work.
[03:24] <bitlooter> i know the auto-upgrade may not work, it didn't work on a laptop but it work on my destop..the commnd line worked either way
[03:24] <kbrooks> laozi: how the f doesn't it f'ing work???
[03:24] <laozi> Maybe I have to do the command line deal.
[03:24] <brett_> What software will create an ISO image from a CD so I can burn copies with gnomebaker?
[03:24] <lightstar> malegria, a test web server setup is similar to the real one? what exactly are you looking 4?
[03:25] <uXp> yes!!!!!
[03:25] <laozi> kbrooks, I need to have the upgraded version of update-manager  but it it the package manager it says my update-manager is up to date (it isn't really).
[03:25] <uXp> i got my dual screen to work! =]
[03:25] <cherwin> brett_: gnomebaker can already create images
[03:25] <brett_> huh... wasn't obvious...
[03:25] <brett_> must have missed it...
[03:25] <cherwin> brett_: you can also do a cat /dev/cdrom > cd.img
[03:25] <chongbook> laozi, have you tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ???
[03:26] <cherwin> brett_: or dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/image.img
[03:26] <chongbook> ugg enough ubuntu nvidia bollocks
[03:26] <brett_> Huh... didn't think it was that easy.. the cat command is surprising...
[03:27] <brett_> I found the option in gnomebaker just now... thanks!!
[03:27] <malegria> lightstar: i just want to be able to preview my php-mysql-websites on my local machine. to do that i used xampp (www.apachefriends.org) under win.
[03:27] <cherwin> brett_: you're welcome :^)
[03:27] <brett_> so you could do  cat /dev/cdrom > myfile.iso
[03:27] <rug> Howdy all
[03:27] <someothernick> hi
[03:27] <cherwin> brett_: if /dev/cdrom is linked to your cdrom drive
[03:28] <brett_> nick Brett_
[03:29] <Maerksi> hello. :) i want to setup ubuntu. is there any review from the graphical instalation? I have 3 partitions but i just want to install ubuntu on the first one. i don't want it to mess with my other two. second question, my pc has 40 gb and i want to create /, /home and /swap. how much shoud I give to each (768 megs of ram)? third question, my d: and e: partitions are ntsc. to be able to work on them with ubuntu, to i need to change to fat32 ? thank you. sorr
[03:29] <bernier> i, i know i have a p3 700 but how can i know if it's a pentium pro, a pentium-mmx , a pentium III/celeron/pentium-III xeon, or pentium M?
[03:30] <malegria> lightstar: i think i have to be registered for private chat, right? i'm not
[03:30] <malegria> lightstar: no i dont have php etc installed
[03:30] <Dreamglider> Maerksi, http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/
[03:30] <malegria> lightstar: can i do that right away?
[03:31] <Rainier> greetings
[03:31] <lightstar> malegria, yes you can
[03:31] <Rainier> my grub-reboot doesn't work! any idea why?
[03:31] <Maerksi> Dreamglider thank you. can i ignore the fact that it is for ubuntu 5 ? is it all the same? :)
[03:31] <Dreamglider> Maerksi, sorry sorry
[03:32] <[Amigo] > Does the latest version of ubuntu install to a usb drive?
[03:32] <__mikem> o well, Im out, bye
[03:32] <malegria> lightstar: so i just install the stuff i need and off it goes?
[03:32] <theine> Rainier: what actually is grub-reboot?
[03:32] <Dreamglider> i know there is screenshots for 6.06 and when installing 6.06  one uses gnome
[03:32] <Rainier> theine: hello, grub-reboot is a program to temporarily change your default startup OS
[03:33] <Sayz> Hey, I know this is gonna sound stupid, but bear with me
[03:33] <Rainier> theine: you use it with the entry number of the OS example "sudo grub-reboot 3" for memtest in my case
[03:33] <Sayz> Does 6.06 have drivers for a Microsoft USB optical mouse?
[03:33] <malegria> lightstar: should i install apache2? i guess...
[03:33] <Maerksi> if you cant help me on the 1st one, dont worry. how about the 2nd and 3rd questions? :)
[03:33] <loxety> what does ubuntu have to connect to netmeeting?
[03:33] <lightstar> malegria, yeap that would be the 1st choice:)
[03:34] <chongbook> loxety, gnomemeeting?
[03:34] <cherwin> Sayz: mice use basic interfaces so i would say yes
[03:34] <jpatota> i just installed postfix but for some reason mailboxes for my user accounts were never generated...how do i create them manually?
[03:34] <cherwin> Sayz: but just try it out dude and see what happens
[03:34] <malegria> lightstar: thanks. seems like it was too easy to think about it...
[03:34] <theine> Rainier: so you could also reboot normally and just select entry 3 in the grub menu?
[03:34] <loxety> chongbook, cool!!
[03:34] <zitch> Sayz: Since I'm using one with 6.06, I'd say yes... :)
[03:34] <winbond> anyone know what repo the quin's packages are in ??
[03:34] <bimberi> Sayz: my usb optical mouse works fine, it's Dell branded though
[03:35] <Maerksi> i'll repeat :) . on a 40 gb hd and 768 mb of ram, how much should i reserve for / , /home and /swap ?
[03:35] <Sayz> cherwin: Hey man, tried the options. They worked great! I used live acpi=off. Unfortunately, they broke my mouse...
[03:35] <chongbook> Maerksi, the installer will partition for you
[03:35] <loxety> chongbook, any ideas to the apt package name?
[03:35] <chongbook> for a desktop machine you dont really need to split off stuff
[03:35] <Rainier> theine: yeah of course but it's comfortable to just say, "reboot with windows" and then to not have to worry about selecting windows :-)
[03:35] <chongbook> loxety, umm dpkg is locked right now so i cant search
[03:35] <theine> Rainier: True
[03:35] <chongbook> heh
[03:35] <cherwin> Sayz: you serious? acpi has broke your mouse? that's odd
[03:36] <lightstar> malegria, :)
[03:36] <Maerksi> chongbook i don't think it will choose the proper amount for /, /home and /swap... will it? :\
[03:36] <theine> Rainier: The best solution is of course to not boot into Windows at all ;)
[03:36] <Sayz> cherwin: Yeah. I mean, acpi was what kept freezing the boot, so turning it off finally got me to the desktop, but by doing so, I couldn't use my mouse
[03:36] <someothernick> Rainier, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst find Default should have a 0 next to it change number to correspond to the os you want to boot from
[03:36] <chongbook> Maerksi, it'll choose swap and / usually
[03:36] <cherwin> Sayz: acpi stands for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface so i do not think it'll break your mouse
[03:36] <chongbook> and maybe /boot
[03:36] <jmg> hmm
[03:36] <Sayz> cherwin: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[03:37] <Sivik> does anyone here use enlightenment?
[03:37] <jmg> ubotu, tell me about mp3
[03:37] <Sivik> !tell jmb about mp3
[03:37] <Sayz> cherwin: But when ACPI was on, the mouse worked while everything else just stopped loading
[03:37] <Maerksi> chongbook what would you choose for /, /home and /swap on 40 gb ? i'm clueless
[03:37] <cherwin> Sayz: configure your xorg.conf to utilize your mouse and then restart X
[03:37] <Rainier> theine: haha yeah that would be great. unfortunately there are some things i still cant do in linux :'-(
[03:37] <Sayz> cherwin: Can't
[03:37] <chongbook> Maerksi, well my laptop has a 40G drive and i just let it set things up automatically
[03:37] <ablyss> how to i edit the bootloader / mbr
[03:37] <cherwin> Sayz: why not?
[03:38] <chongbook> but i'd go 5G for / 1.5G for swap and the rest for /home
[03:38] <Sayz> cherwin: I still haven't been able to install anything. I'm having issues booting at all
[03:38] <chongbook> if i had to make the choice
[03:38] <Rainier> someothernick: ok thanx
[03:38] <Maerksi> can I get another members opinion please?
[03:38] <Maerksi> :)
[03:38] <Sayz> cherwin: The live cd itself won't work right yet
[03:38] <malegria> lightstar: you know if php5 includes 4? or do i have to install both?
[03:38] <theine> Rainier: Such as?
[03:38] <loxety> any alternatives to gnomemeeting?
[03:38] <someothernick> ablyss, grub? sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:39] <AngryElf> the folks over in #kubuntu aren't helping -- what's the equivolent of ~/.gnomerc for KDE?
[03:39] <Neoph34r> I'm trying to set up XGL and Compiz on my Dell Inspiron 9300 with a Nvidia 6800 Go, and i'm getting massive graphical artifacts when I log into gnome. Any one who thinks they can help me with my problem?
[03:39] <lightstar> malegria, php5 and php4 are diff versions..you just have to install one..php5 would do nicely
[03:39] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me to set DMA on cdrom to ON ?
[03:39] <Rainier> theine: i enjoy playing counter-strike every now and then
[03:39] <malegria> loxety: ekiga (?)
[03:39] <Sayz> cherwin: What really sucks is that all the versions of Ubuntu I've tried so far worked perfectly
[03:39] <ablyss> someothernick: i have another grub using my mbr.. this partition isn't listed// cant add to the other grub either
[03:39] <malegria> lightstar: and 5 "knows" 4?
[03:39] <theine> Rainier: Sure, I can see that
[03:39] <lightstar> malegria, though some scripts might complain about certain features
[03:39] <Sayz> cherwin: Then I found out that 6.06 came out and sure enough, it didn't work
[03:40] <malegria> lightstar: ok
[03:40] <lightstar> malegria, knows 4? as in can 5 run scripts written for 4? pretty much:)
[03:40] <cherwin> Sayz: bummer, i guess you have to just live with it if you are going to use the live cd, but if you just install ubuntu on you hard drive then you'll be able to fix that
[03:40] <malegria> lightstar: yeah, thats waht i mean
[03:40] <Maerksi> may i repeat my question? i would like to get another opinion please. how much would you reserve for /, /home and /swap on 40 gb ? i'm clueless
[03:40] <ablyss> someothernick: another question.. how can i change my bootdisk?  right now it doesn't if have dapper as default but xubuntu
[03:40] <Maerksi> i have 768 mb of ram
[03:41] <stuNNed> hi guys, anyone get the latest gnomad2 working on dapper?
[03:41] <someothernick> ablyss, maybe you could reinstall grub to mbr from install disk
[03:41] <Sayz> cherwin: Yeah, and plus, I would dool-boot with Ubuntu if I could really, but I can't leave Windows and my hard drive is WAY TOO SMALL
[03:41] <ablyss> someothernick: i'd rather have my bootdisk fixed firest
[03:41] <someothernick> ablyss, you want it to boot to another os?
[03:41] <cherwin> Sayz: what's holding you back to completely switch over to ubuntu?
[03:42] <ablyss> someothernick: no i want it to be corrected.. it defaults to the wrong OS
[03:42] <Sayz> cherwin: Office and people in my house that can only use Windows:D
[03:42] <Sivik> Sayz, you can still use windows, just do it inside ubuntu
[03:42] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[03:42] <ubotu> methinks sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:42] <Maerksi> !gedit
[03:42] <ubotu> methinks gedit is a text editor for GNOME.
[03:42] <harry> how can i see my offline buddies on gaim yahoo messenger???
[03:42] <Sivik> Sayz, its it a laptop?
[03:42] <someothernick> ablyss, oh
[03:42] <harry> i only see online people
[03:42] <Sayz> cherwin: What, through WINE? My hard drive is 10 gigs, I can barely fit on it
[03:43] <ablyss> someothernick: thanks for tips.. i will do more research on it later
[03:43] <slavik> Sayz: tell your people that microsoft is not god
[03:43] <lightstar> harisund, select show offline buddies
[03:43] <someothernick> ablyss, sorry i couldn't be more help
[03:43] <Maerksi> no answers? :(
[03:43] <cherwin> Sayz: yeah too bad, i've a single user laptop with an 80 gig hard drive...
[03:43] <intelikey> ablyss grub ?
[03:43] <slavik> Sayz: one thing that most people resist is learning
[03:43] <lightstar> harry, select show offline buddies
[03:43] <slavik> force them to learn
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> yo everybody
[03:44] <Neoph34r> I'm trying to set up XGL and Compiz on my Dell Inspiron 9300 with a Nvidia 6800 Go, and i'm getting massive graphical artifacts when I log into gnome. I followed this guide http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 but it doesn't seem to work. Any help would be appreciated.
[03:44] <harry> lightstar: on the preferences???
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> has anybody in the house attempted or successfully managed to install windows vista beta two on a machine that has ubuntu as the primary os?
[03:44] <Sayz> cherwin: I know, it's just they're not attached to Microsoft, just Windows is the only OS they know, and if I try to teach them anything else, they could expload from confusion:D
[03:44] <lightstar> harisund, nope..in buddies
[03:44] <Sayz> cherwin: I still hate Microsoft for making IE
[03:44] <lightstar> harry, nope in buddies
[03:45] <Sivik> Says: get in the new world, buy a bigger hd
[03:45] <cherwin> Sayz: slavik: I would just leave everything as it is, because forcing people to learn stuff never is good. And they'll only get annoyed if they encouter an iexplorer page only etc.
[03:45] <Sivik> 10 gb is old
[03:45] <lightstar> harry, its the main option, right next to tools
[03:45] <slavik> Sayz: they don't need to learn anything ... besides "here is to write stuff, here is e-mail, here is the intraweb"
[03:45] <Sivik> slavik, thats so true
[03:45] <loxety> Microsoft Vista looks like Mac OS 10
[03:45] <slavik> cherwin: I migrated my friend to ubuntu, his wifi (just as mine) doesn't work as well
[03:45] <slavik> windows worked better in our instanse
[03:45] <Sayz> I wish it was that simple...
[03:45] <Sivik> how ugly is Vista
[03:45] <slavik> he does NOT want to go back
[03:46] <Sayz> Oh, by the way
[03:46] <slavik> now, we have to mod our BIOS to accept ralink based cards
[03:46] <harry> lightstar: ok thanx
[03:46] <cherwin> slavik: what kind of nic do you guys have?
[03:46] <HellDragon> i believe i can fly...i believe i can touch this guy
[03:46] <slavik> his reaction "we have to do it" not "let's install windows again"
[03:46] <slavik> broadcom
[03:46] <lightstar> harry, no prob:)
[03:46] <chongbook> slavik, ouch
[03:46] <Sayz> I dunno if you guys have ever heard of this before, but there's this nice Firefox extension that forces websites to think you're using IE
[03:46] <Sivik> slavik, yucky
[03:46] <Sayz> Anyone want a link?
[03:46] <Sivik> Sayz, oh really?
[03:46] <slavik> and the fucking bastards at hp/compaq lied to me and said that I can install other cards
[03:46] <intelikey> ablyss if grub,  open a terminal and type  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst      change the "default" line to read the name of the prefered os.    if lilo do  sudo nano /etc/lilo.conf && sudo lilo       change the default line to the desired os save and exit.
[03:46] <cafuego> slavik: Well, broadcom support isn't 100% yet (blame broadcom)
[03:47] <slavik> but the BIOS is really locked
[03:47] <Sayz> Oh yeah
[03:47] <slavik> cafuego: yes
[03:47] <cherwin> slavik: thats a wonderfull motivation! just search and learn until you can do it :D
[03:47] <loxety> Vista looks ok but doesnt work that well
[03:47] <Sayz> It's called User Agent Switcher
[03:47] <slavik> cafuego, the point is that we refuse to give up
[03:47] <Sivik> loxety, who is suprised
[03:47] <Sayz> Search for it on the extension site, works like a charm
[03:47] <slavik> cherwin: but we both are comp sci majors ... so yea
[03:47] <cherwin> slavik: anyway broadcom isn't really good with linux drivers
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> thats why you never ever buy hp/compaq stuff EVER
[03:47] <loxety> takes to many steps to configure things
[03:47] <slavik> he has fooled around with linux a lot less than me, but he is learning
[03:47] <Sivik> cherwin: the 4318 isn't bad
[03:47] <Neoph34r> I'm trying to set up XGL and Compiz on my Dell Inspiron 9300 with a Nvidia 6800 Go, and i'm getting massive graphical artifacts when I log into gnome. I followed this guide http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 but it doesn't seem to work. Any help would be appreciated.
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> or gateway shit for that matter
[03:47] <joao> how can I update firefox, can I overwrite the oder one inswtallin' 1.5 version?
[03:47] <Krhis> Why is Microsoft STILL using a FS that needs to fragmented....
[03:47] <slavik> shadeofgrey: I never will
[03:48] <malegria> lightstar: ...and where do i find the html-folder? (the folder where i have to put my files)
[03:48] <Sivik> Neoph34r, why aren't you just using the nvidia stuff that ubuntu supplies rather than XGL or Compiz?
[03:48] <slavik> Krhis: because windows xp is the techlonogy of 2002 ...
[03:48] <Sivik> !nvidia
[03:48] <ubotu> well, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:48] <Sayz> Hey, can WINE work without a Windows install?
[03:48] <Sivik> !tell Neoph34r about nvidia
[03:48] <shadeofgrey> sla:  ifd  i were you id threaten litigation to get themn to take the unit you got back
[03:48] <slavik> linux is the technology of last night ;)
[03:48] <Krhis> slavik,  Vista.
[03:48] <lightstar> malegria, it should be in /var/www
[03:48] <cherwin> slavik: anyway what doesn't work, does the module load? can you see the networks, please provide more info
[03:48] <Krhis> ^^
[03:48] <slavik> shadeofgrey: I thought of that
[03:48] <Krhis> Vista is using DRM as a selling point too.... I find this ironic.
[03:48] <shadeofgrey> slavik, unless of course its been more than 30 days.  then your certifiably butt fucked
[03:48] <slavik> Krhis: read what I said :P, it applies to vista, too
[03:48] <Sivik> slavik: are you using ndiswrapper for the broadcom stuff
[03:48] <lightstar> malegria, to find out exactly, edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and look for the DocumentRoot directory
[03:49] <slavik> Sivik: no
[03:49] <someothernick> says, yes
[03:49] <slavik> ndiswrapper doesn't have monitor mode
[03:49] <lightstar> malegria, /var/www/htm..if i recall exactly
[03:49] <stuNNed> how can i get glibc2.4 installed in dapper is it possible to exist alongside 2.3?
[03:49] <someothernick> sayz, yes
[03:49] <malegria> lightstar: ok, found it. thanks
[03:49] <slavik> even the open drivers don't have packet injection
[03:49] <jmg> how can i make rhythmbox rescan my library now i have installed mp3 support?
[03:49] <Sayz> Excellent
[03:49] <Sivik> restart the app maybe?
[03:49] <slavik> rich bastards in my pool don't leave me an open network to use when I am bored ...
[03:49] <shadeofgrey> slavik, lemme guess -- a problem with the integrated wifi and you found out the hard way that they qont allow dfor installation of other networking hardware??
[03:50] <jmg> also, should i be using gnomevfs or mounting my samba share?
[03:50] <winbond> can somone tell me how to link a file to a directory in the command prompt?
[03:50] <slavik> shadeofgrey: because they lied to me
[03:50] <shadeofgrey> sladen, because they put cheap ass bios into the mobile computer your using?
[03:50] <slavik> shadeofgrey: no
[03:50] <shadeofgrey> 'what did they say
[03:50] <wildman> winbond: ln -s file dir/ IIRC
[03:50] <slavik> the BIOS has a whitelist of vendor IDs ...
[03:50] <theine> winbond: ln -s <directory> <file>
[03:50] <wildman> see? I don't remember correctly :)
[03:50] <slavik> since every pci/agp/pcie card/chip has a vendor and subsystem ID
[03:51] <slavik> and they whitelisted only things they sell
[03:51] <lightstar> malegria, try typing your server ip in your browser and see if anything pops up..
[03:51] <winbond> theine: ty
[03:51] <wildman> bye *
[03:51] <theine> winbond: yw
[03:51] <wildman> have a nice... rest of the day/whatever
[03:51] <shadeofgrey> slavik, theres a way to get around that but its riskjy and using it voids the warranty on the machine
[03:51] <malegria> lightstar: i think its working
[03:51] <winbond> wildman: ty
[03:51] <mortal5> hey guys, what's the dif btw the ubuntu dvd and the ubuntu iso?
[03:51] <shadeofgrey> slavik, are you mad eniough that your willing to tryt it?
[03:51] <lightstar> malegria, cool..now you gotta try a php script..
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> mortal5, the ISO is a compressed image of whats on the DVD
[03:52] <theine> shadeofgrey: is it??
[03:52] <lightstar> malegria, you should add "AddType x/application-httpd-php .php" to your httpd.conf..
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> mortal5, usually iso's are used so that the image files for ubuntu installation can be burned to NON dvd media
[03:52] <mortal5> shadeofgrey: the cd iso is 700 mb, the dvd iso is like 4 gig
[03:52] <malegria> lightstar: i need root rights to copy stuff to /var/www right?
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[03:53] <mortal5> shadeofgrey: I know about the cd compression
[03:53] <intelikey> malegria yes   sudo
[03:53] <mortal5> but i'm saying, does the dvd include extras?
[03:53] <shadeofgrey> thats because the DVD has more crap on it -- its got like threedifferent install types and one form of the livecd for testing the systrm on your hardware to verify compatability
[03:53] <lightstar> malegria, i think "www-data" owns tat folder
[03:53] <Krhis> mortal5, both are iso's. But with the DVD you use the repo's less.
[03:53] <malegria> lightstar: so thats sudo nautilus?
[03:54] <theine> shadeofgrey: it also has a lot more packages I believe
[03:54] <mortal5> Krhis: yeah i'd like to find a list of the software on the dvd
[03:54] <billybennett> Whats the proper way to share files between 2 ubuntu systems?
[03:54] <lightstar> malegria, add yourself to that group and you'd be able to copy things..if you can't try doing "chmod -R 775 /var/www/html"
[03:54] <intelikey> malegria no
[03:54] <cherwin> billybennett: ssh
[03:54] <loxety> billybennett, proper?
[03:54] <intelikey> malegria no!  not sudo nautilus     gksudo nautilus
[03:54] <Krhis> Can't help you there.... not to sure what else is on there.
[03:54] <loxety> billybennett, scp works well
[03:54] <lightstar> malegria, i use CLI to cp stuff..:)
[03:54] <mortal5> kk
[03:54] <laozi> Anyone here have any idea why the Synaptic Package Manager won't upgrade?
[03:55] <slavik> Krhis: never show that link to anyone, I might actually kill someone next time
[03:55] <malegria> lightstar: whats the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[03:55] <laozi> Err.. won't list updates, only shows current versions.
[03:55] <billybennett> okie thanks cherwin and loxety
[03:55] <Krhis> slavik, LOL, why do you think I /notice'd?
[03:55] <neophiter> Has anyone successfully added the Ubuntu-Desktop package after installing the LAMP Server setup?
[03:55] <slavik> that article really pissed me off
[03:55] <lightstar> malegria, console and gui...gksudo is used to run GUI stuff..because it fixes permissions needed
[03:56] <intelikey> malegria sorry to be butting in like this. but sudo nautilus will break permissions in your home and make gui login impossable until fixed.   for root nautilus  always  use  gksudo
[03:56] <Krhis> Same here, look at the comments.... nothing but bashing.
[03:56] <garryfre> mortal5: If you mean the difference between the live cd and the alternate install cd iso's, the alternate install allows customized setup and installation of the grub boot loader in a text version of the installer.
[03:56] <jighead> billybennett, if the computers are on the same lan, you can use nfs or samba, which will be a bit easier than scp/sftp
[03:56] <malegria> intelikey, lightstar: thanks. still new to that...
[03:57] <AngryElf> guys - i've got a CD in the drive and i'm actively listening to music off of it, yet it's not mounted according to /etc/mtab.........???
[03:57] <billybennett> jighead,  they are definately on the same lan, but I thought samba was just for linux to windows
[03:57] <lightstar> malegria, no prob...took me a while to get used to gksudo as well..
[03:57] <Krhis> slavik, I'm not really pissed, my religon forbids lowering my standards to those who are closed minded.
[03:57] <theine> billybennett: nfs is for linux to linux
[03:57] <garryfre> Could someone take a peek real quick and tell me what their main group is for the login created in dapper install? I changed mine, forgot what it was and now I can't use gksudo without getting an error warning.
[03:58] <theine> billybennett: and samba can probably be used for that as well
[03:58] <jighead> billybennett, samba is a file sharing protocol, linux can do server and client, so it's whatever you feel comfortable setting up
[03:58] <neophiter> Has anyone successfully added the Ubuntu-Desktop package after installing the LAMP Server setup? I can't get Gnome to properly launch -- it may be my Graphics card (nVidia GeForce 4) but I thought nVidia cards were usually pretty well handled in Ubuntu...
[03:58] <intelikey> krhis an open mind is kinda like an open door,  it collects bugs.
[03:58] <rillian> yay, ubuntu at last!!!
[03:58] <jighead> billybennett, nfs is relatively simple, you edit /etc/exports and start the nfs server
[03:59] <slavik> intelikey: open source code can be fixed quickly by many people ... can't say the same for proprietary code ...
[03:59] <billybennett> cause I want change my windows box to ubuntu but I basiclly just set it up for torrents and file sharing
[03:59] <garryfre> anyone please?
[03:59] <intelikey> garryfre main group is same as  'whoami'
[03:59] <cherwin> jighead: you really think samba or nfs is easier then ssh? guess again samba is a pain in the ass to set up shares, and nfs isn't really secure (who gives that the machines are on the same lan, if he has wireless and that gets compromised then you're nowhere) anyway if you install fuse and sshfs you'll be much more secure and everything will work transperantly billbennett, just try it out.
[03:59] <slavik> garryfre: hold on
[04:00] <billybennett> I'll take note cherwin
[04:00] <intelikey> slavik software's not my religion,   but yeah i hear ya.
[04:00] <garryfre> intelikey It would be what I changed it to, so whoami would be wrong possibly.
[04:00] <cherwin> billybennett: please do, it's really easy to set up
[04:00] <slavik> intelikey: my religion is "logic"
[04:00] <shadeofgrey> logic is antigod
[04:00] <Krhis> intelikey, but I think closedmindedness is worse.... those who refuse to even listen to alternitives may not collect bugs, but they don't do much else either.
[04:00] <intelikey> garryfre no whoami gives the user name.  not the group    groups give the groups.
[04:00] <garryfre> nm, seems to be the name of the user. Strangely, this is not available as a choice anymore.
[04:01] <shadeofgrey> not godly
[04:01] <slavik> shadeofgrey: if I see god, I will spit in his eye ...
[04:01] <shadeofgrey> i doubt pure logic wouild be cionsidered rteligious
[04:01] <garryfre> intelikey yeah, so I see. Thanks I try looking again.
[04:01] <shadeofgrey> thats a better way of saying what i jujst tried to say
[04:01] <Krhis> Stubbornness beening a better word.
[04:01] <slavik> shadeofgrey: it's OT now but logic is how I think ...
[04:01] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey - and others - religion is OT here, thanks...
[04:02] <slavik> Madpilot: was about to say
[04:02] <jrsims> how do I mount an ntfs partition?
[04:02] <slavik> all discussion about retarded windows users and brain-dead conservatives in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <tux0010> i am seeing X freeze a lot when using alsa
[04:02] <intelikey> garryfre it can be any avalable group..... one should look into that in the docs  but you can make a group with sudo groupadd
[04:02] <malegria> lightstar: how do i find the (root?)password for phpmyadmin/mysql? or set a new one?
[04:02] <shadeofgrey> Madpilot:  sorry man.
[04:03] <Krhis> dd if=/dev/zero.... wait? Mount a NTFS partition??
[04:03] <Madpilot> slavik, phrasing it like that is OT too...
[04:03] <shadeofgrey> Madpilot:  i dont rtend to think about trhat until its too late...
[04:03] <Krhis> Sorry, jk. ^^
[04:03] <lightstar> malegria, have u set the mysql root password?
[04:03] <intelikey> garryfre example     sudo groupadd `whoami`
[04:03] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, NP, just move it to #ubuntu-offtopic or private chat
[04:03] <lightstar> malegria, by defaul root password is empty
[04:03] <shadeofgrey> Madpilot:  seriously, im genuinely sorry.
[04:03] <cherwin> Krhis: hahaha hilarious
[04:03] <billybennett> cherwin, do you know where I can find help on fuse and sshfs
[04:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell jrsims about mountwindows
[04:03] <hanasaki> tried to run sensors-detect and got this... where is mkdev?  No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[04:03] <intelikey> then usermod and make it the default garryfre
[04:03] <vinboy> is there a way to limit apt-get's bandwidth?
[04:04] <malegria> lightstar: i havent set nothin
[04:04] <cherwin> billybennett: just google on fuse and sshfs, it's the first hit
[04:04] <ablyss> is firestarter decent firewall ?
[04:04] <garryfre> intelikey strangely, the group garry exists, its just not available in the choices.
[04:04] <lightstar> malegria, then no password..but do remember to set 1..good security practice:)
[04:04] <malegria> lightstar: ok
[04:04] <tux0010> brb
[04:04] <theshibboleth> I'm going through an ubuntu installaion, and the installer freezes when it's 31% finished installing the system
[04:05] <firefly__> theshibboleth: that sucks
[04:05] <intelikey> garryfre man usermod     it's avalable.  just gid is out of range in the gui
[04:05] <Madpilot> theshibboleth, when you first boot an Ubuntu install CD, there's a "Check This CD" option - running that before starting an install is a good idea
[04:06] <jighead> ablyss, firestarter is just a front end to the kernel's iptables, so it will create a good firewall if you understand how to create rules and filter traffic
[04:06] <thechris> has anyone had any luck with mythtv in ubuntu?  are there pacakges for mythtv 0.19 and ivtv 0.4 or 0.6?
[04:06] <theshibboleth> madpilot: I'm not certain that it is a problem with the cd though because this is the second one I've tried that's had a similar problem.
[04:07] <hanasaki> how do i get the i2c stuff?
[04:07] <ablyss> jighead: what about my $50 router with builtin NAT ... would firestarter be useful?
[04:07] <MarcN> thechris: I'm thinking of building a myth box this summer.  What problems are you having?
[04:07] <intelikey> theshibboleth ctrl+alt+f[3-4]    and see what the last thing the installer does.    that info might get you going
[04:07] <Madpilot> theshibboleth, 'real' CDs from ShipIt, or burned? If burned, check the md5sum before burning, and in any case, try the Check This CD" option
[04:07] <hanasaki> ablyss:  iptables by hand rock!
[04:07] <jighead> ablyss, firestarter will not help you config your router
[04:08] <theshibboleth> intelikey: thanks
[04:08] <thechris> MarcN: none yet, i'm actually having issues in gentoo and wanting to switch to *buntu
[04:08] <jighead> ablyss, firestarter will only config the firewall on your ubuntu box
[04:08] <cherwin> jighead: i think he's asking if his NAT router isn't enough..
[04:08] <ablyss> cherwin.. yep
[04:08] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here know how to get VNC to allow you to get into a computer at the GDM login screen?
[04:08] <FunnyLookinHat> Right now I have to be logged in to use VNC, way big security hole...  : P
[04:08] <theshibboleth> hmm... now the installer seems to be frozen entirely
[04:09] <cherwin> ablyss: and it isn't, you have to protect your boxes in your lan against eachother
[04:09] <theshibboleth> as in, not even the mouse moves
[04:09] <DShepherd> how can I list directories only at the command line?
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> DShepherd, ls
[04:09] <thechris> MarcN: but i really hate it when i'm using a distro that is missing a lot of packages i use, or is missing vital packages.
[04:09] <ablyss> cherwin: hehe.. okay
[04:09] <DShepherd> FunnyLookinHat: that list everthing.. I only want files
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> DShepherd, try, man ls
[04:09] <larson9999> well fooey! figured i'd dump mandrake after 8 years and give ubuntu a go.  installation went ok except my ethernet card isn't working.  can't find the gui to reconfigure it like mandrake had
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> will give you options
[04:09] <shadeofgrey> oh yeah that reminds me
[04:09] <thechris> and after my terrible experiences with ubuntu on the desktop, i'm wondering if i should even concider it for a server/PVR
[04:09] <DShepherd> FunnyLookinHat: in windows now
[04:09] <shadeofgrey> hey madpilot can i have  a word with you in a PM window?
[04:10] <hanasaki> how do i get the i2c stuff in ubuntu dapper?  sensors-detect
[04:10] <hanasaki> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[04:10] <intelikey> theshibboleth sounds like cpu 100%  and/or ram 100%    not a good sign.
[04:10] <FunnyLookinHat> DShepherd, errr...  I dont know windows
[04:10] <boga> anyone can point me to a free news server?
[04:10] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, sure, but are you registered & id'd w/ nickserv?
[04:11] <Gambit--> I'm trying to get gdm to show it's greeter, but it's just disconnecting me before it gives me the login prompt... anyone have any ideas what I can look for?
[04:11] <intelikey> boga slashdot ?
[04:11] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[04:11] <boga> intelikey: ahh?
[04:11] <Krhis> Or usenet?
[04:11] <Madpilot> intelikey, he asked for news, not random noise ;)
[04:11] <boga> Yes newsnet
[04:12] <intelikey> lol Madpilot yeah sorry,
[04:12] <tristanmike> Hi, I need some help with Azureus please.  I installed via the repositories, but when I minimize/close to system tray, it dissapears, I have to select it from the menu in order to access it again. Also, when I get pop up messages from it, they don't go away when I click the "Hide" button. Does anyone else have this issue or know what might be wrong ?.
[04:12] <theshibboleth> It's weird because I actually was able to install suse on this computer
[04:12] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, then PM anytime
[04:12] <Krhis> newsnet?
[04:13] <intelikey> Madpilot actually i never use the stuff my self... so i wouldn't know what was good
[04:13] <boga> Krhis: yes, newsnet
[04:13] <boga> or usenet
[04:13] <Madpilot> intelikey, I don't use Usenet much either
[04:13] <Krhis> I don't know of any newsnet.
[04:13] <Krhis> Yes, that's it.....
[04:13] <Krhis> All I can suggest is "Google Groups" but you're looking for a server.
[04:14] <theshibboleth> Would there be any point in, for example, trying to change the file system to see if the installer works then?
[04:14] <Krhis> boga, http://freenews.maxbaud.net/
[04:14] <intelikey> many or most isp's provide a news feed with many servers....
[04:14] <boga> thanx
[04:16] <Krhis> Anytime, boga
[04:16] <laozi> I've used freebsd, red hat, and of course windows as a desktop OS and never had as many problems as with Ubuntu.  :/
[04:16] <cheti> hey all
[04:16] <dou213> hey guys, i've installed vmware-player... what now?
[04:16] <cheti> any help for a novice user to be found in here
[04:17] <cheti> i eman real novice - copy paste level
[04:17] <slavik> cheti, if you don't ask a real question or state a real problem, you won't get any help
[04:17] <slavik> !ask
[04:17] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:17] <intelikey> laozi what ya trolling about ?   i'll troll with ya.
[04:17] <cheti> ah sorry
[04:17] <slavik> just ask/state
[04:17] <slavik> it's one of those "don't introduce what you want to say, just say it" type of thing :)
[04:18] <laozi> intelikey, Just grumbling...
[04:18] <larson9999> dou213 go to hackaday and hack yourself some images
[04:18] <intelikey> oh, intelikey grumbles too
[04:18] <Arabian> hm, ssh server on ubuntu dapper, how do I get it the most easy way?
[04:18] <cheti> question : while starting up the live cd of dapper i got a failed to init xserve and i dont get a gui. Jsut get a command prompt at ubuntu@ubuntu level
[04:18] <hanasaki> if i build my own kernel for ubuntu.. how can i get he nvidia drivers / module?
[04:18] <laozi> I think I now corrupted my sources.list and don't have a back up, that's the latest disaster.
[04:18] <frostoftheblack> Arabian: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:18] <cheti> have a geforce fx 5500 card
[04:18] <slavik> cheti: what video card do you have?
[04:18] <slavik> hmm
[04:18] <Arabian> frostoftheblack: thanks
[04:19] <cheti> works pretty well on a whole ton of other live cds ..
[04:19] <slavik> laozi: you can get an official one from the wiki pages :)
[04:19] <Arabian> frostoftheblack: then the rest is pretty automatic?
[04:19] <slavik> cheti, something is weird for sure
[04:19] <frostoftheblack> Arabian: after that, the daemon sarts running automagically
[04:19] <intelikey> laozi dapper
[04:19] <larson9999> hate to have to reinstall mandriva just because i can't get ethernet owrkin
[04:19] <slavik> cheti: go to /mnt
[04:19] <Arabian> frostoftheblack: fantastic! I love ubuntu
[04:19] <cheti> aaaargh - i just used karoraa with xgl and am thirsting to get dapper up and running on ym machine. want to isntall it.. partitioned off 35 gb but no smoke
[04:20] <cheti> slavik: you mean once i get to the command prompt of ubuntu@ubuntu ? after i get the xserve init error?
[04:20] <slavik> yes
[04:20] <dou213> larson9999, link?
[04:20] <cheti> ok .. will ahve to write the instructions down please do go on
[04:21] <dou213> http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000153064739/ ?
[04:21] <frostoftheblack> Anyone know if it is possible to boot an ISO image that is on the hard drive?
[04:21] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[04:21] <cheti> frostofthebalck: just looked for the exact same thign before heading out and buying blank cds
[04:21] <intelikey> frostoftheblack possable yes, easy no.
[04:21] <slavik> frostoftheblack: only through something like vmware
[04:22] <malegria> lightstar: again... when i start phpmyadmin and put root/blank, i get an error message that says that the mysql-socket has to be configured
[04:22] <cheti> slavik : /mnt followed by?
[04:22] <lightstar> malegria, did you try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:22] <frostoftheblack> intelikey, slavik: Assuming I don't have a cd-rom drive to use, is it better to try this method or to do a network boot?
[04:22] <slavik> just mnt and then list everything there and tell me what you have
[04:22] <cheti> is it a problme with bios - i have oem gateway machine
[04:22] <cheti> ok brb then
[04:22] <Andares> Hi iwir3d
[04:23] <intelikey> frostoftheblack unless you are on dialup do the net
[04:23] <iwir3d> hi
[04:23] <slavik> hmm
[04:23] <edvinasMD5> cthulhu, fuckin polish peaple
[04:23] <garryfre> intelikey That did not work. It will not let me change the main group of my main login, bitching about a password file not being able to open and I tried on the command line from another user and it failed. It looks like I must format and reinstall.
[04:23] <Andares> edvinasMD5, did you mean "people"?
[04:23] <eyequeue> !language
[04:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:23] <edvinasMD5> Andares, yeah
[04:23] <cthulhu> edvinasMD5, peanapple?
[04:23] <edvinasMD5> lol
[04:23] <intelikey> garryfre no.
[04:23] <adamant1988> edvinasMD5: if you can't spell "people" you don't deserve to use big-boy words.
[04:23] <Andares> Not saying iw__'s name
[04:24] <Andares> iwir3d
[04:24] <Andares> adk
[04:24] <hx10> blimey, took ages to sync the userlist
[04:24] <Andares> *afk
[04:24] <intelikey> garryfre test sudo      sudo echo bob
[04:24] <malegria> lightstar: there is no mysql in that folder...
[04:24] <edvinasMD5> adamant1988, when you will be stoned you could tell me how to wirte
[04:24] <ardy> help how to setup proxy server in ubuntu?
[04:24] <edvinasMD5> and i will se how you write
[04:24] <winbond> polish sausage rocks
[04:24] <edvinasMD5> poland is shit
[04:24] <intelikey> garryfre does it ask the pass and then say bob ?
[04:24] <eyequeue> !language
[04:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:24] <edvinasMD5> jobani polak
[04:25] <lightstar> malegria, anything mysql in /etc/init.d
[04:25] <iwir3d> anyone know why when i try and install quake3 i get an error ?   Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[04:25] <eyequeue> edvinasMD5, stop the hate in here please
[04:25] <winbond> polish beer is the best
[04:25] <hx10> Has anyone successfully compiled the stv680 driver ? I get over 1000 errors
[04:25] <iwir3d> thats when i try and run it i mean
[04:25] <larson9999> dou213 hackaday is the link
[04:25] <malegria> lightstar: what do i have to install? right now i only have mysql-commom
[04:25] <edvinasMD5> winbond, lol, lithuanian and germany bear is the best
[04:25] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[04:25] <garryfre> intelikey Yes, its gksudo that's having fits. The main group for my main login is now users. I think it was garry before.
[04:25] <edvinasMD5> poland is the worst actually
[04:25] <winbond> um , no
[04:25] <lightstar> malegria, ahhh..you need to install mysql-server
[04:25] <eyequeue> edvinasMD5, stop the hate in here please
[04:25] <edvinasMD5> is 2004 polish bera was the worst
[04:25] <adamant1988> edvinasMD5: lay off the language.    Show us that you have an above room-temp I.Q. and be quiet.
[04:25] <intelikey> garryfre that's ok.   sudo does work ?
[04:25] <malegria> lightstar: oops
[04:26] <DShepherd> DBO: ls -F | grep '/' = directories
[04:26] <lightstar> malegria, :)
[04:26] <edvinasMD5> fu
[04:26] <eyequeue> !ops
[04:26] <DShepherd> DBO: ls -F | grep -v '/' = files
[04:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:26] <s|k> how do I get information about ubuntu from the command line?
[04:26] <winbond> ive drank german bear , its good but not better then polish
[04:26] <slavik> what's -F?
[04:26] <intelikey> garryfre or no ?
[04:26] <spikeb> who drinks bears?
[04:26] <winbond> beeeer
[04:26] <spikeb> SHAM!
[04:26] <spikeb> er
[04:26] <spikeb> SHAME!
[04:26] <s|k> !enter spikeb
[04:26] <winbond> haha
[04:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, s|k
[04:26] <Madpilot> eyequeue, ?
[04:26] <DShepherd> slavik: man ls :-D
[04:26] <iwir3d> anyone help me with the quake3 error ?? o.O
[04:26] <BhamGray> Anyone with experience with experince installing Dell drivers with the ndiswrapper
[04:26] <BhamGray> ?
[04:26] <DBO> DShepherd, oh that will work nice enough, but you will get some odd characters on executable files and such
[04:26] <garryfre> intelikey Yes, however gksudo says this even tho garry is logged in .... ** (gksudo:7251): WARNING **: Owner of /tmp/orbit-garryfre is not the current user
[04:26] <spikeb> damn it, i hate making fun of typos and making them myself
[04:26] <slavik> DShepherd: why? you're here :P
[04:27] <gigaclon> s|k, uname
[04:27] <eyequeue> Madpilot, /lastlog edvinasMD5, the anti-polish hate won't stop
[04:27] <hx10> Is the driver supported by ndiswrapper?
[04:27] <intelikey> garryfre ok log out and log back in then test.
[04:27] <BhamGray> hx10: Yes, it's listed on the Wiki as being supported
[04:27] <slavik> hx10: I would doubt it unless the ndiswrapper wiki says otherwise
[04:27] <slavik> nvm
[04:27] <garryfre> intelikey Already tried. It failed.
[04:27] <iwir3d> ----------------------
[04:27] <iwir3d> 534 files in pk3 files
[04:27] <iwir3d> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[04:27] <iwir3d> -----------------------
[04:27] <iwir3d> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[04:27] <intelikey> garryfre you changed groups   login is required
[04:27] <iwir3d> -----------------------
[04:27] <iwir3d> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[04:28] <DShepherd> DBO: hmmm.. so a file can have a '/' in the name?
[04:28] <Madpilot> iwir3d, pastebin next time, please!
[04:28] <gigaclon> !paste
[04:28] <cef> iwir3d: please don't paste in channel
[04:28] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:28] <matti> Madpilot: Thanks!
[04:28] <iwir3d> pastebin ?
[04:28] <noisy_1> hey, I jsut recently stopped an mv command using ctrl+c, rebooted the machine, and the folder I was moving is gone. Is there a way to get it back?
[04:28] <s|k> anyone?
[04:28] <eyequeue> Madpilot, thanks
[04:28] <s|k> how do I get information about ubuntu from the command line?
[04:28] <edvinasMD5> eyequeue, np
[04:28] <DBO> no, but with the -F option you will get files with @ at the end of their name because they are executable
[04:28] <Madpilot> iwir3d, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:28] <cherwin> iwir3d: www.pastebin.com
[04:28] <iwir3d> ok
[04:28] <gigaclon> s|k, uname
[04:28] <iwir3d> but really.. can anyone help me =/
[04:28] <intelikey> s|k what info you looking for ?
[04:28] <Madpilot> edvinasMD5, anything more out of you will result in a ban - clear?
[04:29] <iwir3d> im new to linux but ive been learning pretty fast
[04:29] <s|k> intelikey: which version of ubuntu I have
[04:29] <DShepherd> DBO: ok
[04:29] <hx10> Well, I had a problem with ndiswrapper installing my wireless card, but I searched around the net and managed to do it with a frontend application, which I can't remember the name of because it was about 6 months ago
[04:29] <s|k> gigaclon: uname doesn't do that
[04:29] <intelikey> lsb_release s|k
[04:29] <DBO> DShepherd, I mean you get a * because they are executable
[04:29] <s|k> intelikey: thank you
[04:29] <DShepherd> DBO: thats fine.. I just want the directories.. or no directories
[04:29] <hx10> ndisgtk maybe
[04:29] <slavik> hx10: search for ndis in synaptic
[04:29] <DBO> DShepherd, jump back to offtopic and we can discuss this easier
[04:29] <slavik> it is probably ndiswrappergtk or something
[04:30] <keleus> got an openGL question
[04:30] <edvinasMD5> Madpilot, don't scare me :) if you think it's hard to change an ip you can put ban risgt now. Im just sitting here for interest of ubuntu and there is one bad thing about me, i can kill all polish people. that's what i want to say, it's your decition what to do now with me, ban or not
[04:30] <keleus> ive got an ati radeon 145M IGP (laptop) and it works with the X driver "radeon" and direct rendering
[04:30] <hx10> Thanks slavik but I don't need help, I'm trying to help someone :P; What I need help with is the stv680 for my webcam
[04:31] <keleus> but glxinfo and other tests state I'm using Mesa OpenGL (SGI/Tungsten) - thats software rendering right?
[04:31] <intelikey> garryfre results ?
[04:31] <keleus> how do i get it to use hardware acceleration
[04:31] <loxety> is there an 64bit x86 verison of ubuntu?
[04:31] <adamant1988> edvinasMD5: you'd be suprised how wide bans can get.
[04:31] <BhamGray> hx10: ndisgtk
[04:31] <garryfre> intelikey Same thing. It says my main group is still users.
[04:31] <cherwin> Madpilot: :^)
[04:32] <keleus> can anyone get me some help?
[04:32] <user6266> does anyone know how to set macchanger to spoof and address at boot?
[04:32] <s|k> intelikey: say I tried to upgrade my ubuntu-server to dapper with dist-upgrade but I still get version 5.10
[04:32] <matti> Madpilot: If he/she own a xDSL, that will not save us from he/she for long, but thanks! You're great :)
[04:32] <cherwin> user6266: use ifconfig
[04:32] <keleus> is there a way to try a program with different openGL? (say glxgears - which no longer gives FPS btw :/ )
[04:33] <s|k> intelikey: any idea why it's not upgradeing? am I doing it wrong or is there no newer version?
[04:33] <jughead> keleus, glxgears shows fps
[04:33] <intelikey> garryfre pastebin the error message and the results of these three commands.   ls -l $HOME      groups        cat /etc/sudoers    please.
[04:33] <adamant1988> where does it show FPS
[04:33] <adamant1988> ?
[04:33] <jughead> glxgears -printfps
[04:33] <adamant1988> My glxgears just shows gears...
[04:33] <lightstar> s|k, silly question but have you changed the repos to point to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:33] <jughead> you have to put that
[04:33] <keleus> wasnt it the default before?
[04:34] <s|k> lightstar: that's not a silly question at all :S
[04:34] <jughead> i believe so
[04:34] <s|k> lightstar: thanks
[04:34] <loxety> is there a noticable difference between the 32 and 64bit versions?
[04:34] <intelikey> s|k   you changed the sources.list to all dapper    did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade   ???
[04:34] <noisy_1> is there a way to restore source files after an incomplete mv ?
[04:34] <lightstar> s|k, :)
[04:34] <keleus> 1556 frames in 5.0 seconds = 311.101 FPS
[04:34] <keleus> WTF
[04:34] <keleus> even so, it was ~140 using the "ati" driver
[04:34] <jughead> keleus, that stinks man what card?
[04:34] <s|k> intelikey: doing that now ;)
[04:34] <keleus> so its an improvement
[04:34] <keleus> jughead; ATI Radeon 345M IGP (built in laptop card)
[04:34] <EnterUserName> hi all
[04:35] <EnterUserName> im lookign for a cross compiler for nlsu2
[04:35] <EnterUserName> its armeb architecture
[04:35] <EnterUserName> where can i find ubuntu sources for that
[04:35] <keleus> jughead; its using MESA openGL for some reason and im trying to figure out how to change/test others
[04:35] <keleus> jughead; MESA is software opengl
[04:35] <keleus> i think...
[04:35] <BhamGray> I'm trying to get a Truemobile 1450 MiniPCI wireless card working on a Dell D600 Laptop
[04:36] <larson9999> oh boy seems there are lots of irq issues
[04:36] <jughead> I'm getting >4700 FPS on my radeon 9800pro
[04:36] <BhamGray> I have installed the driver from Dell via the ndiswrapper
[04:37] <BhamGray> But now I'm stuck
[04:38] <fartmastr> why compile my own kernel?
[04:38] <intelikey> garryfre url to the pastebin ?
[04:39] <intelikey> fart because you want too  ?
[04:39] <fartmastr> besides that
[04:39] <jughead> you fart becuase you want to?
[04:39] <garryfre> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15673
[04:39] <intelikey> garryfre looking.
[04:39] <garryfre> intelikey Thankskindly!
[04:40] <vadersolo> how do I acctivate single-click, I do not want to double-click all the time
[04:42] <Okita> I'm having a strange problem where it says the nvidia X module and kernel module have an API mismatch.  I can "fix" this problem by rerunning the latest nvidia installer script, but it just gives me the same error after a reboot
[04:42] <user6266> thanks
[04:42] <user6266> I'll give that a shot
[04:42] <deameyes> while trying to build libjpeg and it says "arm-elf-gcc: Command not found", any suggestions?
[04:42] <garryfre> Okita: do you have access to the gui at all?
[04:43] <nameless14> I have been making links in /var/ftp from /var/storage/ (i am running vsftpd) and when i run the ftp client i can see the file but i cant open\download\access it. I have tried logging in as root to acess the file and still have the same problem. does anyone know a way around this. (and if its hardlinks thats still a problem as /var/storage is a different harddrive
[04:43] <laozi> okita, i tihnk there was a guy in here earlier with the same problem.
[04:43] <garryfre> Okita: and are you using Dapper or Breezy.
[04:43] <loxety> what are some 3d games that are available?
[04:43] <fartmastr> why compile my own kernel?
[04:43] <intelikey> garryfre sujest you do a     sudo usermod -g "garry" -G "users adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin" garry  && sudo chown gary:gary /home/gary -R           then try the logout/in again.
[04:43] <BioVorE> loxety: UT2k4/doom3/doom4 just to name a few big titles
[04:44] <BioVorE> (quake3)
[04:44] <loxety> BioVorE, free in ubuntu?
[04:44] <laozi> fartmastr, You could pop your kernel instead, try puttin gyour computer in the microwave.
[04:44] <BioVorE> loxety: well you need to commercial disc for the data files..
[04:44] <fartmastr> laozi, hilarious, +1 to funny, or whatever
[04:44] <fartmastr> anyone have a real answer?
[04:44] <loxety> BioVorE, looking for something to test out the video
[04:44] <Okita> garryfre: I'm using Dapper
[04:44] <loxety> BioVorE, glxgears doesnt cut it
[04:45] <intelikey> garryfre you can paste that to terminal as one line command.  --> sudo usermod -g "garry" -G "users adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin" garry  && sudo chown gary:gary /home/gary -R <---
[04:45] <BioVorE> loxety: type glxgears -printfps into a console..  not exactly a benchmarch but kinda cool
[04:45] <Okita> garryfre: Running the Nvidia installer script makes me able to startx, but on reboot, I get the API mismatch again
[04:45] <BioVorE> loxety: hmm .. check out happypenguin.com I think
[04:45] <loxety> 33745 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6748.939 FPS
[04:45] <Okita> I'm trying the stuff on this page: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=58250
[04:45] <garryfre> ok, going ot try that, but will use garry for the chown part instead of garry. will be back
[04:45] <Okita> Does that sound like what the other guy did to solve his problem?
[04:46] <Dial_tone> are groupnames recognized across systems for nfs mounts? I have a filesystem exported on BoxA, user joe has uid 1000 on BoxA but uid 1001 on BoxB. If joe is in wheel on both boxes will that work or I need to get the uids in sync?
[04:46] <intelikey> garryfre garry:garry    yeah.
[04:46] <intelikey> and the group if i misspelled it garryfre
[04:46] <loxety> BioVorE, .org :)
[04:47] <malegria> lightstar: now it works ;)
[04:47] <BioVorE> loxety: yeah thats it..
[04:47] <lightstar> malegria, cool:D with phpmyadmin as well?
[04:47] <malegria> lightstar: yes
[04:47] <intelikey> back in 10.
[04:48] <lightstar> malegria, :D..cool then;) regarding your php4 scripts...if you're using classes change the "var" to either "public/private";)
[04:48] <larson9999> if i need pci=noacpi, where do i put it?
[04:48] <lightstar> malegria, otherwise if u enable strict checking it would print out msgs stating tat var is depreceated
[04:48] <garryfre> say intelikey I got this as a response ...  unknown group users adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:49] <malegria> lightstar: i'll figure that out
[04:49] <lightstar> malegria, :) cool then
[04:49] <intelikey> garryfre errrrr maybe unquote and use , commas to seperate
[04:49] <BioVorE> hmmm according to winehq.org wine opengl is faster then windows native..  3dMark shows about a 7% boost
[04:50] <garryfre> intelikey ok, trying that.
[04:50] <BioVorE> wiki.winehq.org/BenchMarck-0.9.5
[04:50] <ardy> help how to block msn messenger in squid configuration? my students keep on playing msn chatting,
[04:50] <intelikey> garryfre hehhe sorry for the fumble.
[04:50] <BioVorE> http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5
[04:50] <intelikey> man it doesn't pay to learn a new language... it'll hose the one you know...
[04:51] <n0dl> i have a question about the new dapper release... if i were to download the ubuntu desktop iso does that mean there is no longer a "server" install option at prompt?
[04:51] <snoopy> right
[04:51] <snoopy> you can get the server release for that..
[04:52] <n0dl> is ther server install from the server iso just like the previous server install method from 5.10?
[04:52] <snoopy> alternate release has both options still I'm pretty sure
[04:52] <ardy> help how to block msn messenger in squid configuration? my students keep on msn chatting,
[04:52] <snoopy> msn uses dynamic port ranges
[04:52] <lightstar> ardy, have you tried googling it? there are plenty of guides in blocking msn via squid
[04:52] <Surfnkid> hi guys
[04:52] <Surfnkid> :)
[04:52] <Surfnkid> If i download any *.deb file do I just run 'sudo dpkg ....*.deb file to install it?
[04:53] <slavik> someone messaged me?
[04:53] <lightstar> Surfnkid, sudo dpkg -i <deb>
[04:53] <eyequeue> Surfnkid, -i
[04:53] <slavik> Surfnkid: give -i to dpkg
[04:53] <Surfnkid> thx!
[04:53] <Surfnkid> thats what i needed, forgot which letter of the alphabet
[04:53] <Surfnkid> brb
[04:53] <slavik> rofl
[04:54] <carpediem> anyone know how to find hard drive free space from the command line?
[04:54] <gort> how do you force 6.06 to use a specific screen resolution?
[04:54] <joao> how can I unpack with unrar?
[04:54] <BioVorE> to block MSN/Bittorrent/P2P stuff you might want to look at the iptables packet match stuff.. kinda hardcore stuff.. but it works once you got it figured out.
[04:54] <lightstar> carpediem, df -h
[04:54] <fishfillet> dapper has Gdeb right?
[04:54] <spikeb> yeah fishfillet
[04:54] <cherwin> joao: unrar x
[04:54] <BioVorE> joao: install unrar
[04:54] <eyequeue> gort, F4 at  boot
[04:54] <carpediem> lightstar: ty
[04:54] <boga> what player will handle the mms:// protocol?
[04:55] <malegria> lightstar: :) how do i change the root passwort again? (mysql)
[04:55] <BioVorE> boga: it dose here.. I don't know about the version in ubuntu's repos
[04:55] <odat> anyone know what i can do or what i can use to overburn a cd
[04:55] <fishfillet> surfnkid: so just right click on the .deb file and open it with Gdeb
[04:55] <lightstar> malegria, update user set password=OLD_PASSWORD('password') where user='root'...kkee
[04:55] <RageMax> is there a way to boot from a specific root fs from the new live install cd?
[04:55] <RageMax> I can't seem to find it
[04:55] <gort> eyequeue> the problem is that ubuntu shares a monitor over a kvm switch, and when it boots up not no selected by the switch it defaults to 640x480
[04:55] <boga> BioVorE: what plays that protocol?
[04:56] <lightstar> malegria, oh and do remmeber to "flush privileges" after tat
[04:56] <joao> cherwin, didn't work
[04:56] <gort> i think it thinks it is not connected to a monitor and goes for the lowest res
[04:56] <odat> anyone know what i can do or what i can use to overburn a cd
[04:56] <malegria> lightstar: and where do i do that? ist that php?
[04:56] <joao> and I have installed with apt-get
[04:56] <cherwin> joao: 'unrar x file.rar' has to work
[04:56] <Cntryboy> Hello all can anyone help me mounting my xp hd through ubuntu.. first time user
[04:57] <Hobbsee> !mount
[04:57] <cherwin> joao: or else just use the gui program archiver ok
[04:57] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:57] <gort> eyequeue> what does F4 at boot do?
[04:57] <joao> command not found
[04:57] <BioVorE> boga: mplayer
[04:57] <intelikey> odat xcdroast
[04:57] <cherwin> joao: install unrar then!
[04:57] <lightstar> malegria, nope...from mysql itself.just type mysql -u root mysql
[04:57] <boga> ok thanx
[04:57] <eyequeue> gort, allows resolution selection
[04:57] <lightstar> malegria, in command line:)
[04:57] <gort> it is persistent?
[04:57] <gort> is it persistent?
[04:58] <gort> well i will give it a try
[04:58] <RageMax> can anyone help me out with that problem?
[04:58] <intelikey> !ntfs
[04:58] <Cntryboy> grr brb
[04:58] <PetrolBomb> Can I convert a WMV to MP3?
[04:58] <eclypse> sup all
[04:58] <Andares> PetrolBomb, you mean WMA?
[04:58] <RageMax> I can't seem to get the livecd to boot my root fs
[04:58] <Andares> Because WMV is video.
[04:58] <PetrolBomb> Yeh
[04:58] <PetrolBomb> Can I convert it to audio?
[04:59] <intelikey> ubotu seems to be under attack
[04:59] <Krhis> Legally no. ^^
[04:59] <Andares> PetrolBomb, not with ubuntu's tools most likely.
[04:59] <Hobbsee> cafuego: any idea what's happened to ubotu?
[04:59] <Andares> Because it's "illegeal and dark" to use anything besides ogg apparently
[04:59] <BioVorE> boga: even though I think vlc and xine will do it as well
[04:59] <odat> intelikey, really?
[04:59] <PetrolBomb> Does the repos have a program for world peace?
[04:59] <RageMax> PetrolBomb: get VLC and lookup a transcoding tutorial online
[04:59] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:59] <intelikey> yep
[04:59] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[04:59] <malegria> lightstar: and the part in brackets after OLD_... is the new password?
[04:59] <intelikey> see the lag time
[05:00] <lightstar> malegria, nope..OLD_PASSWORD is a function;)
[05:00] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[05:00] <wubrgamer> how do i remove a user and his home folder ?
[05:00] <wubrgamer> from the command line ?
[05:00] <lightstar> malegria, for use in php...i haven't figured how to use the new password scheme in php yet
[05:00] <malegria> lightstar: but OLD_PASSWORD('new_password') ?
[05:00] <lightstar> wubrgamer, userdel -r <uname>
[05:00] <wubrgamer> thank you guys
[05:00] <intelikey> wubrgamer man userdel
[05:01] <odat> intelikey, its really confusing
[05:01] <lightstar> malegria, yeap..your password goes in between ''
[05:01] <ardy> help where can i get information to setup squid popup authentication in browser ? for ubuntu
[05:01] <malegria> lightstar: ok. and that flush priviledges? just type it like that afterwards?
[05:01] <lightstar> malegria, yeap..then quit and try logging in again
[05:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell uXp about away
[05:02] <malegria> lightstar: its still blank...
[05:02] <lightstar> malegria, mysql -u root -p mysql will prompt you for a password
[05:02] <hanasaki> how do i get the temp sensors installed for the kernel?
[05:02] <wubrgamer> i just completely killed my username
[05:02] <garryfre> intelikey This is the response I got garry@Nova:~$ sudo usermod -g garry -G users,adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,garry  && sudo chown garry:garry /home/garry -R
[05:02] <garryfre> usermod: user users,adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,garry does not exist
[05:02] <bimberi> !sensors
[05:02] <ubotu> sensors is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[05:02] <malegria> lightstar: does the "...kkee" mean something?
[05:02] <slavik> hanasaki: they should be there, if not lmsensors I believe\
[05:02] <wubrgamer> how do i remove ALL TRACES of a user ?
[05:02] <lightstar> malegria, nope..a mistype
[05:03] <malegria> lightstar: mmh
[05:03] <lightstar> lightstar, :)
[05:03] <intelikey> garryfre not er,admin,garry  its  er,admin garry
[05:04] <uXp> sry stupid away, i was testing it out
[05:04] <hanasaki> the mkdev.sh is not in any of the packages to just install?
[05:04] <intelikey> garryfre the last comma should be a space.
[05:04] <intelikey> uparrow and fix
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> mkdev.sh is deperciated i thought
[05:04] <hanasaki> Dr_Willis: what replaces it?
[05:05] <lightstar> wubrgamer, userdel -r completely removes all traces of the  user...including their home directory, for further information man userdel will explain more
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> the dynamic dev system i thought udev (?)
[05:05] <JohnsonE> companions! I need to play wma files
[05:06] <malegria> lightstar: i forgot the ; , but it still doesnt change...
[05:06] <wubrgamer> thanks
[05:06] <hanasaki> Dr_Willis: when i run sensors-detect it says No i2c device files found.  Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[05:08] <lightstar> malegria, no prob...had plenty of experience..hehehe
[05:08] <bobby> I'm after an app that will show me what traffic is going over what port (live and total would be handy)...web based or app based is fine...any help?
[05:08] <wubrgamer> yeah, i can't log into gnome
[05:08] <wubrgamer> or even failsafe gnome
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> modprove i2c-core.ko    perhaps
[05:08] <wubrgamer> how do i allow root login from gdm thru cmd line ?
[05:08] <lightstar> bobby, ntop would do it..or ethereal
[05:08] <JohnsonE> if i install the restirctedformats codecs can XMMS play them?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> wubrgamer,  somthing made no sence there.
[05:09] <intelikey> Dr_Willis typo
[05:09] <hanasaki> FATAL: Module i2c_core.ko not found.
[05:09] <jighead> wubrgamer, did you use that userdel command on your account?
[05:09] <wubrgamer> yes
[05:09] <eyequeue> wubrgamer, root login is not advised
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko
[05:09] <lightstar> wubrgamer, i don;t think you can get root through gdm..
[05:09] <wubrgamer> i have root
[05:09] <fartmastr> why compile my own kernel?
[05:09] <fishfillet> wubrgamer: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?!
[05:09] <wubrgamer> what ?
[05:09] <lightstar> wubrgamer, u used userdel on your account?????
[05:09] <Eleaf> Whenever my audio dies (applications can't connect to it) how do I restart the sound system?
[05:09] <bobby> ethereal provides far to much data...two meg pipe always in use :P ...will check out ntop though
[05:09] <wubrgamer> yes
[05:09] <fishfillet> bobby: etherape or etherreal ?
[05:09] <jighead> wubrgamer, ctl+alt+F1 will get you a console to log in as root
[05:09] <wubrgamer> i know
[05:09] <wubrgamer> and i can do that
[05:09] <eyequeue> !tell wubrgamer about root
[05:09] <wubrgamer> dammit guys
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> just  kill gdm and use 'startx' as root. is one way
[05:10] <wubrgamer> i know the fucking dangers of root login, and i REALLY don't care
[05:10] <wubrgamer> how do i kill GDM ?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> or edit the gdm config
[05:10] <wubrgamer> how do i reset GDM config ?
[05:10] <hanasaki> ls /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko
[05:10] <hanasaki> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko
[05:10] <jighead> wubrgamer, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:10] <dou213_> guys, how can i emulate a virtual machine after installing vmware-player?
[05:10] <wubrgamer> as well as the start up scripts
[05:10] <lightstar> wubrgamer, :S...y did you do that?
[05:10] <hanasaki> ah.. no .ko on it dr
[05:10] <m1ke_l> dou213:  you have to install a guest
[05:10] <fishfillet> johnson: xmms playing wma?! i havent tried... its ok with totem
[05:10] <eclypse> hey all, I'm still getting the infamous configure problem....
[05:10] <eyequeue> wubrgamer, your vulnerability makes US a target from your zombie machine
[05:10] <fishfillet> wubrgamer: so what do u want to do anyway?
[05:10] <eclypse> heres the error
[05:10] <eclypse> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:10] <Andares> Mplayer can play wma if you install cool codecs.
[05:10] <eclypse> I've ran all the auto-apt stuff
[05:10] <wubrgamer> how are you a target ?
[05:10] <Hobbsee> !tell eclypse about xincludes
[05:11] <dou213_> m1ke_l, yes, but how to do it in ubuntu? in windows, i can install vmx-builder
[05:11] <eclypse> k
[05:11] <eyequeue> wubrgamer, you don't know of zombies?
[05:11] <intelikey> Dr_Willis it be's one of them there learnen' thangs
[05:11] <m1ke_l> dou213:  not sure what you mean...start vmware. build guest, point to cd or iso..install guest
[05:11] <wubrgamer> sorry
[05:11] <lightstar> wubrgamer, root by default doenst have a password..and its nvr advisable to run as root as eyequeue and some others have mentioned
[05:11] <wubrgamer> zombie ?
[05:11] <hanasaki> if i build my own kernel.. how do i rebuild the nvidia kernel module?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  yea.. guess so.. 'i  KNOW i need to do this! i dont want to learn anything else!'
[05:11] <wubrgamer> zombie ?
[05:12] <wubrgamer> what's a zombie ?
[05:12] <ome_> there a list somewhere of whats working on wine?
[05:13] <intelikey> zombie=pid without an actual process
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ome_,  check he wine home page?
[05:13] <eclypse> I installed all those packages, and I still get that X includes error...
[05:13] <ome_> no, i assumed there wasnt
[05:13] <ome_> ill check
[05:13] <wubrgamer> what does rescue a broken system do on the alternate cd do ?
[05:13] <wubrgamer> like, what's rescue mode ?
[05:14] <lightstar> wubrgamer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_computer
[05:14] <wubrgamer> AND WHAT'S A ZOMBIE ?
[05:14] <intelikey> zombie=pid without an actual process
[05:14] <cheti> hey all - getting a 'failed to start xserver' error when running the live cd
[05:14] <eyequeue> !caps
[05:14] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:14] <someothernick> ome_, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:14] <eclypse> I installed all those packages, and I still get that X includes error...
[05:14] <lightstar> intelikey, i think he's asking what a zombie comp is
[05:14] <eclypse> what else can I do???
[05:14] <cheti> x output doesnt say anyhting  - jsut the linux os version
[05:15] <eclypse> I'm still getting the X includes error when running ./configure
[05:15] <eclypse> after installing all necessary package
[05:15] <eclypse> packages
[05:15] <eclypse> even auto-apt
[05:15] <cheti> any ideas anyone ? i have a geforce fx5500 card and i am able to boot into gui if i use safe mode for graphics
[05:15] <eclypse> any suggestions?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> eclypse,  fire up synaptic and look for X related -dev packages and start installing. :P is what i did
[05:15] <lightstar> eclypse, just out of curiosity... why are you trying to compile X?
[05:16] <eclypse> I'm not
[05:16] <malegria> ok lightstar, i'm taking off. thanks a lot. helped me a bunch!
[05:16] <cheti> !ask x server error during live cd bootup - geforce fx 5500 card , safe mode graphic botts into gui though
[05:16] <eclypse> I'm trying to compile a theme from source
[05:16] <ubotu> cheti: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:16] <eclypse> and its giving me this error.
[05:16] <lightstar> malegria, no problem..see you:)
[05:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> !catch
[05:16] <ubotu> InvisiblePinkUni: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> !catchall
[05:16] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, InvisiblePinkUni
[05:16] <wubrgamer> right
[05:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> !catch-all
[05:16] <ubotu> InvisiblePinkUni: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <GaiaX11> I have a minicooler in the motherboard next to cpu cooler, but it is very noisy so i disconected it. does anyone think that i will boil my motherboard? Or only me?
[05:16] <wubrgamer> i'm just re-install ubuntu
[05:16] <intelikey> Dr_Willis will gksudo work if sudoers is set to 'either' adm  or  admin  ???  or is gksudo picky ?
[05:17] <InvisiblePinkUni> !control panel
[05:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, InvisiblePinkUni
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  a small fan  - may be for the north bridge. you can get large heatsink replacements for the fan for like $5
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  or get a new better fan for it for about $14
[05:17] <InvisiblePinkUni> where do i find the control panel to setup a catchall email address?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  not sure - cant say that ive ever mucked with sudoers that much
[05:17] <starkruzr> guys, I have an NV20 chipset graphics card (GeForce 3 Ti200) and for some reason the only resolution I can pick is 640x480.  I am running the nvidia binary driver.  Anyone know what might be wrong?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> starkruzr,  check the monitor settings - for a start
[05:18] <InvisiblePinkUni> is there a control panel in ubuntu?
[05:18] <cheti> !ask x server error during live cd bootup - geforce fx 5500 card , safe mode graphic botts into gui though
[05:18] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, cheti
[05:18] <GaiaX11> Dr_Willis, Do you think that if i use the machine without it anything could go wrong?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> InvisiblePinkUni,  gnome and kde both have theior control-menu and panel programs.
[05:19] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i can't even test cause nosuid here.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  it may crash if ya play games.. or may over heat and crash
[05:19] <cheti> anyone have any idea bout xserver errors? please help
[05:19] <starkruzr> Dr_Willis: What are you referring to when you say "monitor settings?"
[05:19] <intelikey> cheti what error ?
[05:20] <cheti> intellikey: it says failed to start xserver when booting form livecd
[05:20] <cheti> but it boots jsut fine in safe graphics mode
[05:20] <intelikey> starkruzr vsync and hrefresh
[05:20] <starkruzr> Dr_Willis: Under "Screen Resolution" in Preferences the only option I have is 640x480.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> starkruzr,  the x configs have 'video card' settings then settings for what the monitor can do. If the system thinks the monitor can only handle 640x480 or whatever. thats what it will default to.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:20] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> starkruzr,  that preferamnces tool dsent actually 'set' the res. its just reading what the monitor CAN do from the xorg.conf file
[05:20] <starkruzr> what's weird is it worked fine on my GeForce FX 6600.
[05:21] <starkruzr> same monitor.
[05:21] <starkruzr> and, ok.
[05:21] <intelikey> cheti live cd is kinda out of the normal x realm   sorry.
[05:21] <SAM_theman> hello?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> starkruzr,  ive fought with the X configs for ages. :P its just the kind of thing it pays to dive in and read/learn about.
[05:21] <SAM_theman> I was watching the Heat Game
[05:21] <SAM_theman> We are losing
[05:22] <cheti> ok wish me lcuk first time iom trying to install dapper .. first time trying to install linux
[05:22] <SAM_theman> cheti, Good luck
[05:22] <Andares> kk
[05:22] <cheti> thank you all
[05:22] <intelikey> cheti seeing that it works in safe mode  there is no doubt that it can be fixed.  the installed linux is the place to work on it tho.
[05:22] <cheti> ok intelikey will install it..
[05:23] <cheti> one small question though - i ahve  35 gig formatted partition .. its ntfs
[05:23] <cheti> do i need to make any changes to it before i give ubunut the go ahed to install on it
[05:23] <SAM_theman> cheti, Well are u willing to lose windows?
[05:23] <intelikey> cheti linux can't live in ntfs space with out scba gear
[05:23] <fishfillet> cheti: good luck!
[05:23] <fishfillet> SAM: Dallas is winning?
[05:23] <cheti> its on a seperate hard drive- the slave drive
[05:24] <cheti> my c:/ is on a seperate drive
[05:24] <SAM_theman> fishfillet, yup
[05:24] <cheti> tahnks fish
[05:24] <cheti> :)
[05:24] <SAM_theman> fishfillet, I Think its MIA=68 and DAL=77
[05:24] <cheti> sam: so i wont lose windows then right?
[05:25] <SAM_theman> cheti, Umm..
[05:25] <intelikey> cheti the installer will ask you if it's ok to make that partition ext3   just be sure you select the drive that windows is not on.
[05:25] <ubuntuking> i hope that mia wins
[05:25] <SAM_theman> cheti, I'm not sure my friend
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> cheti,  you do mean a septarte hard drive.. not jsut a single hard drive with several partitions?
[05:25] <cheti> i think ill take it easy and jsut partition it to ext3 before attempting.. do it from windows with aprtition amgic
[05:25] <SAM_theman> cheti, I have Windows And ubutnu on the same HD
[05:25] <fishfillet> SAM: thanks, im about to win another 50 bucks :)
[05:25] <cheti> yes
[05:25] <slavik> cheti: you're back :D
[05:25] <cheti> dr willis: yes
[05:25] <cheti> hey slavik :)
[05:25] <SAM_theman> fishfillet, No problem...trader
[05:25] <fishfillet> cheti: just try to go for dual boot...
[05:25] <cheti> i bring back tales of noob horror
[05:26] <slavik> cheti: are you trying to install onto the system which you are currently using?
[05:26] <cheti> umm yes
[05:26] <cheti> i have jsut the one
[05:26] <bhearsmu> i'm in the middle of doing an upgrade to dapper and while its unpacking/setting up a bunch of packages 'update-menus.real' goes defunct
[05:26] <fishfillet> cheti: yes, partition magic will do :)
[05:26] <bhearsmu> if i kill the process dpkg gets an error but continues along
[05:26] <cheti> to ext 3right?
[05:26] <bhearsmu> anyone had this problem?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Eww Partition Magic. lol
[05:26] <intelikey> cheti yeah or better yet just delete the partition and let the linux installer make one on the free space.... the installer likes that.
[05:26] <cheti> haha
[05:26] <slavik> cheti: the whole point of looking into /mnt was to find the ramdisk which is where I think ubuntu loads all the stuff from the live CD then to edit the X configuration to use something that is more failsafe ...
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> I'll second that.  Use GParted.
[05:27] <cheti> i did a /mnt but jsut got slappe on the wrists
[05:27] <cheti> ubuntu@ubuntu: /mnnt
[05:27] <ubuntuking> i was just installing on a pc today, and the default partitioner choked
[05:27] <cheti> bash users wrists
[05:27] <cheti> summat like taht
[05:27] <TheoMurpse> Hey, I downloaded the Ubuntu 6.06 ISO for x86 (passes MD5 test), and have tried burning 3 times at the lowest speed my burner supports (8x), and keep getting read errors when I have Nero verify the burn afterwards. Has this been a problem with other people?
[05:28] <bhearsmu> TheoMurpse: sounds like a problem with the drive or media
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> TheoMurpse,  havent heard of problems with it lately.
[05:29] <intelikey> TheoMurpse if it's been much of a problem it would show up on the wiki/forum's
[05:29] <TheoMurpse> intelikey, thanks. Hopefully someone else knows of a solution.
[05:29] <TheoMurpse> Thanks all.
[05:29] <intelikey> TheoMurpse you can search http://ubuntu.com
[05:30] <cheti> anyone know the place to go for the most noob friendlt install instructions for xgl on dapper?
[05:30] <GaiaX11> Dr_Willis, do i have to get the same model of asus motherboard northbridge heatsink to replace the other or it does not matter?
[05:30] <slavik> TheoMurpse: have you tried running the disk?
[05:30] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[05:30] <intelikey> cheti wiki's i'd think.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,   i doubt it it matters. check out that xoxide.com (i think) site that sells parts.
[05:30] <slavik> cheti: and the forums
[05:31] <intelikey> !xgl
[05:31] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> GaiaX11,  i got a large heatsink to replace the fan on my main pc.. then opened it up and realized it allready had one. :P
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  this is just a Large heatsink for the northbridge. :P no fan at all. just a copper heatsink about 5x as tall as the normal one+fan
[05:33] <intelikey> ja
[05:33] <zaudragon> does Ubuntu support one button mice?
[05:33] <cheti> thanks all .. here we gooooooo
[05:33] <cheti> ?quit wishes himself luck
[05:34] <intelikey> ?exit stays in the channel
[05:34] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> I just discovered something: There's an Ubuntu package search option in the Firefox search toolbar.
[05:34] <slavik> zaudragon: even osx supports a one button mouse :P
[05:34] <slavik> tonyyarusso: wtf?
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Take a look.  Who knew?
[05:34] <slavik> tonyyarusso: how? just in google?
[05:35] <zaudragon> slavik: ok
[05:35] <slavik> or what?
[05:35] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> slavik: No, click the G, and you'll get a list of options, Google, Yahoo, Wikipedia, and others.  There are like 9.
[05:35] <harry> I always get the error message: DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER if my DVD-rom or any cd-rom is not connected
[05:36] <slavik> bah, shutdown my laptop
[05:36] <jtrnp> Hey.  Can anyone tell me why when I do an iptables flush, my ssh server freezes and refuses to reconnect until I reboot?
[05:36] <intelikey> tonyyarusso good on ya mate.    but as to the who knew, my standard reply(not liking ff) would be who cared  :0
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: So you would be what, Opera, Epiphany, other?
[05:36] <intelikey> links2 -g
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> Ah yes.
[05:36] <intelikey> the lighter the better
[05:36] <tophfisher> I am looking for input. Where should I go to talk to Ubuntu users about what they would like to hear in my new Linux Podcast? I tried Ubuntu-offtopic but got no response.
[05:37] <SAM_theman> Who here plays Enemy Territory on linux?
[05:37] <SAM_theman> version 2.60
[05:37] <garryfre> intelikey Thanks. I finally got the thing fixed after you said to replace final comma with a space. I also had to use userdel after rebooting to remove the temporary garryfre account because dapper thought the account was still logged in.
[05:37] <Winkie_> sup guys I have the same problem as this dude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1096496 .. Anyone know of a simple solution? I've been searching around with no luck
[05:37] <aeon17x> !info rss-glx
[05:37] <ubotu> rss-glx: (Really Slick Screensavers GLX Port), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.8.0-1ubuntu7 (dapper), Packaged size: 3126 kB, Installed size: 4316 kB
[05:37] <chavo> SAM_theman, I play et
[05:38] <slavik> tophfisher: forums are a good place, stop by the women section and ask them too
[05:38] <intelikey> garryfre cheers
[05:38] <SAM_theman> chavo, Is that true mate?
[05:38] <chavo> I'm about to play in a little while
[05:38] <tophfisher> slavik: Thanks
[05:38] <chavo> yes, it's my favorite game
[05:38] <SAM_theman> chavo, Well you have msn?
[05:38] <harry> I always get the error message: DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER if my DVD-rom or any cd-rom is not connected
[05:38] <chavo> SAM_theman, no
[05:38] <slavik> harry: do you have any OS on your hard drives?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> harry,  that means theres nothign for it to boot.. sounds like.
[05:39] <SAM_theman> chavo, Because I wanted to play with sombody I know
[05:39] <slavik> harry: do you have the BIOS set to boot from a hard drive?
[05:39] <slavik> Dr_Willis: compaq lied to me
[05:39] <garryfre> intelikey That got rid of the error where i was logged in as garry, with a home directory of /home/garry and having gksudo saying the current logged in user did not own /home/garryfre instead of echoing bob as it should have done.
[05:39] <SAM_theman> chavo, Tell when when your ready ok
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> slavik,  and this is a suprise? :P
[05:39] <harry> yep: the ubuntu breezy badger. i can boot the computer if my hardware CD-rom or DVD-rom is connected
[05:39] <slavik> Dr_Willis: I found a page on how to ahck the BIOS :D
[05:39] <slavik> will do it tomorrow :D
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> slavik,  you leet haxor dood!
[05:39] <harry> slavik: the ubuntu breezy badger. i can boot the computer if my hardware CD-rom or DVD-rom is connected
[05:40] <slavik> my friend will come over with his laptop (he has a later BIOS) and we will extract it from his laptop and hack away
[05:40] <bobby> google earth for linux :D (native)
[05:40] <gr33npho3nix> hmm anyone said anything about the fact that upgrading mozilla forces the removal of enigamail
[05:40] <SAM_theman> chavo, I'll give u the ip I'll be in ok ? or your choice?
[05:40] <intelikey> garryfre yep   cli is your linux friend for life.
[05:40] <mngrif> with 6.06, is there anyway to get a text-mode installer?
[05:40] <slavik> harry: but not otherwise?
[05:40] <harry> slavik: but if i connect my CD-rom or DVD-rom i dont get such errors.
[05:40] <intelikey> !cli
[05:40] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> bobby: I wouldn't say native.  It's running with wine internally.
[05:40] <chavo> SAM_theman, alright
[05:40] <slavik> harry: that is weird
[05:40] <crimsun_> gr33npho3nix: it's known due to the security update. When the mirrors sync, it'll be available.
[05:40] <bobby> mngrif, download the alternative iso
[05:40] <mngrif> this livecd crap isn't cutting it
[05:40] <slavik> harry: I had something similar at work today
[05:40] <harry> slavik: yes indeed
[05:40] <gr33npho3nix> crimsun_: thanks
[05:40] <bobby> tonyyarusso, no it isn't, it's qt/opengl based
[05:40] <slavik> mngrif: no it isn't
[05:40] <mngrif> bobby, you've got to be kidding me...
[05:40] <gr33npho3nix> for the time being i installed it by hand
[05:41] <bobby> Google Earth for Linux... (posted 2006-06-12 18:59:25 by icculus):
[05:41] <bobby> Google Earth for GNU/Linux has shipped today. It is a completely native port, using Qt and OpenGL. It does not use Wine or Winelib.
[05:41] <bobby> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[05:41] <harry> i dont know if its the ubuntu itself or my hardware components
[05:41] <mngrif> the 'double click me to install' hangs on the 3rd step
[05:41] <slavik> harry: it's something with the BIOS
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> bobby: rubbish.  They contracted picasa and earth with Codeweavers.
[05:41] <slavik> the BIOS gives you that message
[05:41] <garryfre> Is it possible that you have an entry in fstab or somewhere else that is trying to automount those devices? Possibly gnome is trying to restore a session where you had a cd in the devices when the session was closed.
[05:41] <bobby> tonyyarusso, icculus never lies...I'll find out in eight minutes when I try to install it
[05:41] <garryfre> !tell garryfre about cli
[05:41] <slavik> garryfre: no, that error message is given by the BIOS
[05:42] <chavo> tonyyarusso, google earth is native
[05:42] <amachu> Hi every one,
[05:42] <garryfre> !cli
[05:42] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:42] <slavik> mngrif: don't blame the livecd ...
[05:42] <SAM_theman> chavo, Well I am in a server now I have a program to switch between the game and the Desktop so heres the ip (<IP_ADDRESS>:2796)
[05:42] <bobby> besides, it would almost have to be native, it is a very high requirement app
[05:42] <harry> slavik: i dont know. maybe not. i tried disabling to boot the cd-rom and its still connected to my computer, i can still boot
[05:42] <amachu> I recently installed Ububtu 6.06..
[05:42] <mngrif> slavik, it would be different if it included a text installer
[05:43] <amachu> I need SCIM to work with Open office
[05:43] <lightstar> bobby, i tried google earth for linux..its pretty laggy
[05:43] <SAM_theman> chavo, And my name is Linux_Boy (with the colors)
[05:43] <mngrif> slavik, it would also be different if the website told you the differences
[05:43] <intelikey> harry BIOS is spewing out the error message and probably because the mbr is not 'right'  or no disk detected by the bios or improper hd pramaters in bios
[05:43] <amachu> I need SCIM to work with Open office
[05:43] <harry> slavik: i tried to to disable it again, and tried not my DVDrom not connected to my computer and now i cant boot
[05:43] <amachu> how do i?
[05:43] <bobby> mmm, will want to try it at home where I have a decent graphics card
[05:43] <amachu> can some one help
[05:43] <bobby> they should have based it on gtk instead of qt but thats okay
[05:43] <amachu> hello!!
[05:44] <harry> intelikey: what do you, that's to hard for me to understand. too tough, can you explain it
[05:44] <chavo> it runs awesome here on a 6600GT
[05:45] <bobby> yeah thats what I got at home
[05:45] <lib8264q> hell all :)
[05:45] <bobby> this box has some dodgy ati card in it
[05:45] <SAM_theman> I have a 6600GT card to
[05:45] <lib8264q> sorry ...
[05:45] <bobby> not even sure if opengl is overly supported
[05:45] <SAM_theman> Its alsome on every OS
[05:45] <lib8264q> should have been hello :)
[05:45] <eclypse> hi all
[05:45] <Winkie_> has anyone figured out how to get their USB drives correctly displayed on the desktop? I really want them as '257 gig volume' instead of 'usbdisk' :(
[05:45] <eclypse> that x includes problem persists!
[05:45] <oni-dracula> has anyone tested cedega on a fresh install of ubuntu 6.06?
[05:46] <eclypse> when I try to do ./configure in a theme package
[05:46] <slavik> harry, it might mean that the MBR is messed up. the MBR is the initial part of an HDD which contains the code to boot an operating system
[05:46] <eclypse> it gives me the X Includes error...
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  it works.. but it wants xlibs.. thats fixable.
[05:46] <bobby> oni-dracula, I believe it works fine
[05:46] <lib8264q> cam someone help with a slight problem ...
[05:46] <oni-dracula> eh...I never encountered the xlibs error
[05:46] <bobby> two mates are running WoW fine on it
[05:46] <Luciano> hello! someone know a way to join all the xUbuntus (ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu and xubuntu) in one DVD (live)?
[05:46] <oni-dracula> I'm having a problem with it saying OpenGL failed testing
[05:46] <lib8264q> iv de installed totem ... and installed totem-xine
[05:46] <bobby> yeah I've never heard of an xlibs error either? and one of them is to newbish to work around an error like that
[05:47] <oni-dracula> haven't tested a game yet...still trying to install WoW
[05:47] <bobby> oni-dracula, yeah it's opengl testing method is crap
[05:47] <bobby> assume that the games will work
[05:47] <oni-dracula> kay
[05:47] <bobby> what you really need to test is     glx-info|grep direct
[05:47] <slavik> Luciano: good idea ... but I guess it would involve having all the Live CDs on the DVD and a custom grub configuration ...
[05:47] <eclypse> so
[05:47] <bobby> and if that comes back with yes then you can play games :D
[05:47] <eclypse> does anyone have any idea?
[05:47] <intelikey> harry, i'm not sure i can break it down any more than that.      get into the BIOS settings and make sure they are correct for the first hard disk drive.    also you can 'dd if=/dev/hda of=file count=1 && less file     and see if your mbr is blank or not. (but that is probably too indepth for you)     that's where i'd start.
[05:47] <slavik> eclypse: the theme package ...
[05:48] <eclypse> heres the exact error while attempting to do ./configure on the theme package...
[05:48] <eclypse> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:48] <slavik> is it a real package or something you got from gnomelook.org?
[05:48] <lib8264q> but when i click on the icon  its loading and dissapearing again  ... but if i have a dvd or open a song wqith it plays  ???? so why wont it open up on its own
[05:48] <slavik> ahh
[05:48] <slavik> eclypse: you need the X dev packages
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> !http cache cleaner
[05:48] <ubotu> ToHellWithGA: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:48] <eclypse> what do I search for?
[05:48] <slavik> xorg
[05:48] <eclypse> Adept isant as easy as snaptic
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> anybody in here know why "http cache cleaner" pops up occasionally?
[05:48] <slavik> and select packages that end in -dev or -headers
[05:48] <intelikey> harry i'll leave you alone so i don't confuse you any more.   ;/
[05:49] <Luciano> slavik, I have contacted the autor of http://www.nautopia.net/archives/es/linux_distribuciones/custom/livecd_collection.php I dont know if can be done with something like that
[05:49] <nelisa> here's me trying to like Ubuntu again
[05:49] <maikol> where can i get the kernel source
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ToHellWithGA,  you runninh ktorrent  or some other kde apps?
[05:49] <slavik> Luciano: I am sure it can ...
[05:49] <nelisa> how to play a CD??
[05:49] <lib8264q> cam someone help with a slight problem ...
[05:49] <lib8264q> but when i click on the icon  its loading and dissapearing again  ... but if i have a dvd or open a song wqith it plays  ???? so why wont it open up on its own
[05:49] <lib8264q> but when i click on the icon  its loading and dissapearing again  ... but if i have a dvd or open a song wqith it plays  ???? so why wont it open up on its own
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: ktorrent, yes
[05:49] <nelisa> Ubuntu 5.10
[05:49] <slavik> Luciano: it is possible to have a single distro with all 3 desktops and just pick one :D
[05:49] <intelikey> nelisa give it up.   just hate it like i do.  it's much easer to use if you just admit you hate it and go on.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> ToHellWithGA,  ive seen it pop up every so often as it cleans out its cache I think
[05:50] <nelisa> I don't hate it yet
[05:50] <ToHellWithGA> no way.  an "http cache cleaner" cleans a cache?
[05:50] <intelikey> oh well you will
[05:50] <nelisa> it takes looong time for me to hate something
[05:50] <ColonelPanic001> So far I like Ubuntu.
[05:50] <ToHellWithGA> lol.  thanks Dr_Willis.  at least i know which app is calling it now
[05:50] <wastrel> i like ubuntu
[05:50] <ColonelPanic001> Still getting used to the "don't use root" thing. heh
[05:50] <Luciano> slavik: but the idea is to have a livedvd, where users can test them and "choose" what they like to install
[05:50] <lasindi> Hi all, I've been trying to install Ubuntu on two machines, both with 256 MB of RAM. It appears to freeze when the installer gets to the partitioner. If I do "top" before the installer, I see that the memory is already pretty filled up even before I start. I suspect that it just runs out of memory. Is there any way to have a text-based installer, similar to the one in Breezy, so that it actually works?
[05:50] <ToHellWithGA> i'm going to like ubuntu a little more once qemu is finished setting up
[05:51] <intelikey> gui user every one of ya
[05:51] <Hobbsee> lasindi: yes, it's called the alternate installer
[05:51] <Hobbsee> er, alternate cd
[05:51] <lightstar> lasindi, you need to download alternate
[05:51] <nelisa> but not CD Player, nor Totem would play my French class CD
[05:51] <Okita> ls
[05:51] <slavik> Luciano: you can still give the user a choice
[05:51] <lightstar> ToHellWithGA, are you getting any problems with cpu usage w qemu+kqemu?
[05:51] <lib8264q> iv de installed totem ... and installed totem-xine
[05:51] <lib8264q> cam someone help with a slight problem ...
[05:51] <nelisa> and I need to practice :)
[05:51] <ColonelPanic001> intelikey: I'm primarily a debian user, actually. I like the command line just fine.
[05:51] <lib8264q> but when i click on the icon  its loading and dissapearing again  ... but if i have a dvd or open a song wqith it plays  ???? so why wont it open up on its own
[05:51] <lasindi> Hobbsee: does it produce exactly the same result (i.e. installation at the end) as the regular CD?
[05:52] <Hobbsee> lasindi: yep
[05:52] <Hobbsee> lasindi: it's just like the breezy cds
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> lightstar: yeah but it's no worse than WINE
[05:52] <lasindi> Excellent, thanks
[05:52] <ppcguy> hey guys. Lookin through the gnome wiki, trying to get programs to auto start on log-in
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> and it's working fine so far (/me knocks on wood)
[05:52] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[05:52] <ppcguy> but think I'm just not lookin in the right place? Any ideas?
[05:52] <intelikey> ColonelPanic001 didn't see you praising ubuntu.....
[05:52] <pingveno> I know this is a bit of an odd place to ask, but are there any ftp servers for Ubuntu that broadcast their existance via zeroconf?
[05:52] <ColonelPanic001> 23:50]  <ColonelPanic001> So far I like Ubuntu.
[05:52] <ColonelPanic001> hehe :)
[05:52] <lightstar> ToHellWithGA, mine's consuming almost 100% and i cant find a solution 4 it..havent tried wine in ages though
[05:53] <pingveno> Well, for Linux in general
[05:53] <ToHellWithGA> lightstar: i can't get sony's SonicStage running under WINE for the life of me
[05:53] <ToHellWithGA> i'd rather have qemu ride my processor like a pony than not have it work
[05:53] <lightstar> ToHellWithGA, the last time i tried WINE i couldnt get most stuff working..gave up on it and to qemu...luv it cept 4 the cpu usage
[05:53] <ToHellWithGA> i've been listening to the same few minidiscs for weeks now
[05:54] <intelikey> well i'm going to ditch this unwanted guest.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> minidisks - aint those like 8-track tapes? :P
[05:54] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: they're like beta tapes
[05:54] <Luciano> slavik: but making a distro with all the 3 desktops they have to install/uninstall all of them... my idea was to make them test the 3 desktop and choose wich one install, before test the 3 desktops
[05:54] <wastrel> i like a gui uh huh
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Dr_Willis: haha.  i'm pleased to see that someone else actually knows what minidisks are
[05:54] <ToHellWithGA> had they caught on before mp3 had a foothold they'd be fine now
[05:54] <wastrel> minidisks eh
[05:54] <Bratsche> Hello!
[05:55] <ColonelPanic001> Hi.
[05:55] <harry> intelikey: i got this error message
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Hobbsee,  ive seen them.. and kept wondering why they are still around.. they are like the child-sony-dont-want-to-claim. :P
[05:55] <harry> intelikey: dd: opening `/dev/hda': Permission denied
[05:55] <Bratsche> I'm having trouble booting into xubuntu...
[05:55] <ToHellWithGA> once mp3 was big sony stayed with proprietary compressed audio formats for the MD, effectively killing it except for die-hard fans like myself
[05:55] <harry> intelikey: is this the command: dd if=/dev/hda of=file count=1 && less file
[05:55] <Bratsche> A couple of what I assume are error messages appear after the system attempts to "mount root file system"
[05:56] <Bratsche> (I'm running off the live CD)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> I think sony was shooting itself in the foot way befor mp3's got popular. :P
[05:56] <mortal5> exit
[05:57] <oni-dracula> people shouldn't +m a 400 person chat room
[05:57] <oni-dracula> that's just wrong
[05:57] <Bratsche> Anyone know how to fix something like that? :P
[05:58] <Bratsche> Apparently
[05:58] <Bratsche> not
[05:59] <wastrel> heh bratsche doesn't know how irc works
[05:59] <oni-dracula> it's ok
[05:59] <oni-dracula> he'll eventually put himself out of our misery by never coming back and killing himself
[05:59] <crimsun_> eh, that's a bit excessive.
[06:00] <Andares> oni-dracula, on Linux?
[06:00] <Andares> o_O
[06:00] <n30n> Oh god i forgot my question
[06:00] <ToHellWithGA> wastrel: i was gonna tell him it did that for me.  and i ran the live CD for about 12 hours of usage then ran out of memory
[06:00] <oni-dracula> yes Andares
[06:00] <n30n> dr_willis: how do you do the star thing.
[06:01] <Agent_bob> guys this is probably a tor proxie but beware   <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <ToHellWithGA> 12 hours was plenty to test the newbuntu and know it was worth installing
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> n30n,  to the back of the line! :P
[06:01] <oni-dracula> yes, Dr_Willis
[06:01] <n30n> dr_willis: i remember you.
[06:01] <wastrel> i was going to tell him to boot from cd and try to mount the root fs manually
[06:01] <ubuntuking> MIA= 97, DAL=95 9.3 seconds remaining
[06:01] <oni-dracula> how does photobucket consider 873.2 KB (894133 bytes) to be greater than 1MB and therefore needs to be resized
[06:01] <n30n> dr_willis: you helped me with a problem back when i first got badger
[06:02] <ToHellWithGA> n30n: let me teach you something.  type dr_ then hit tab and it should fill the man's name in for you, capitalization and all
[06:02] <bobby> hey nice, google earth includes software emulation for opengl if the graphics driver doesn't support it :P
[06:02] <n30n> toHellWithGA: i know. i like it the other way
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> n30n,   i deny any responsability for any large explosions I may of helped cause. :P
[06:03] <ToHellWithGA> n30n i use the other way on some short nicks like yours, but others i sure do love tab completion
[06:03] <garryfre> It sounds like it's rounding up. /emote tries to change Intelikey's name to intelikey UbuntuHelpHero.
[06:03] <wastrel> nickname tab completion can get annoying in this particular channel
[06:03] <joao> how can I upgrade my fire fox 1.0 to 1.5 in ubuntu??
[06:03] <n30n> ToHellWithGA: yeah.
[06:03] <wastrel> with 800 people there's a high rate of false positives
[06:03] <garryfre> It should auto upgrade.
[06:04] <n30n> ToHellWithGA: With things like Dr_Willis i like to type it out. because i like the name..
[06:04] <Hobbsee> !tell joao about firefox1.5
[06:04] <DevZer0> i spent the whole day today to get my laptops ATI card go get direct rendering enabled on Ubuntu 6.06, and now i switched back the drivers to the ati version and i see "Dual-head configuration is not working with DRI at present" anyone here got direct rendering working for dualhead (ATI Mobility 9000)
[06:04] <n30n> \ a
[06:05] <n30n> whoops. dropped keyboard
[06:05] <fishfillet> exit
[06:05] <wastrel> DevZer0:  ouch that bites
[06:05] <DevZer0> yes :-(
[06:05] <wastrel> DevZer0:  that's why i'm not messing with dri for now :/
[06:05] <Inner|RE> what applications does linux have for webpage designing?
[06:05] <wastrel> there's one that people use
[06:05] <bobby> nvu
[06:06] <DevZer0> Inner|RE, -> vim :-)
[06:06] <bobby> though most linux webpage devs use text editors :P
[06:06] <oni-dracula> installing speech.mpq...................................
[06:06] <bobby> nvu is frontpage/dreamweaver like
[06:06] <oni-dracula> I use notepad and only recently (early this year) have I switched to linux
[06:07] <oni-dracula> anyone that does their own web pages should be 1337 enough to code in text
[06:07] <wastrel> notepad good god
[06:07] <oni-dracula> black and white baby!
[06:07] <wastrel> code in text fine, but there's vim for windows
[06:07] <oni-dracula> can you feel the eye strain?
[06:07] <harry> intelikey: check this out. is this true http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=1026
[06:07] <DevZer0> how ever, i think i am going to keep the "ati" driver for my X for now since when i use it the xorg cpu utilization is about 3%, when i used fglrx drivers it was always at about 10% :-(
[06:08] <wastrel> DevZer0:  i'm using default ati drivers for now but once i get back into doing 3d stuff i'm going to need fglrx - hopefully the kinks will be worked out by then :p
[06:09] <DevZer0> wastrel, does direct rendering help to prevent the traceses you get when you drag things around ?\
[06:09] <DevZer0> wastrel, i dont know the right terminology to explain it.
[06:09] <wastrel> i dunno, i think some of that has to do with LCD
[06:09] <Cntryboy> I'm about to pull my hair out :(
[06:09] <DevZer0> wastrel, i see.
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> Inner|RE: i'd definitely give vi a spin
[06:10] <Inner|RE> does vim have a graphical interface?
[06:10] <thechris> Inner|RE: gvim ?
[06:10] <DevZer0> Inner|RE, gvim
[06:10] <wastrel> gvim is sortof graphical
[06:10] <wastrel> i don't care for it
[06:10] <Guilt> Good morning!
[06:10] <Inner|RE> k
[06:11] <RizCk> lol
[06:11] <graig> my computer crashed when i tried to compile something :(
[06:11] <Inner|RE> hrm its not in aptitude
[06:11] <slavik> X problem: when I start my laptop, I get the GDM screen. I log in and GNOME loads. Once it's done loading, it just restarts (X). I read that this is a kernel bug and I am not sure how to fix it. Only thing I did was upgrade from 15-21 kernel to the 15-23 kernel. It started doing it since. I have installed Dapper on my friend's laptop and on my work system and it doesn't do it ...
[06:11] <Cntryboy> I'm trying to mount my windows hd.. Now my windows hd has 2 partitions hda1 and hda5<-- (which is storage space)and hda1 is where xp is installed. I got hda5 mounting and working, but for the life of me I can't get hda1 mounted. Does anyone know what my noob ass is doing wrong
[06:12] <domingo> hi
[06:12] <domingo> hi
[06:12] <domingo> hi
[06:12] <thechris> Cntryboy: what command (or how) are you trying to mount hda1?
[06:12] <nosklo> hi
[06:12] <Cntryboy> same as hda5
[06:12] <SAM_theman> Sorry I am back,I had lost my connection.And I've been losing it multiple times tonight
[06:12] <Cntryboy> are u wanting to know the command I put in fstab?
[06:12] <domingo> where are you from?
[06:12] <thechris> Cntryboy: sure
[06:13] <graig> i was trying to compile the newer version of Amule, and i hit ctrl-c in the middle of the compile... as soon as i hit ctrl-c, gnome panel crashed, and then i coudn't do anything but after i rebooted, it boots, but i cant log in, it says /home/graig not found. what the heck happened? :(
[06:13] <SAM_theman> nosklo, Hello
[06:13] <Cntryboy> ./dev/hda1       /media/windows   ntfs   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[06:13] <SAM_theman> nosklo, Need some help
[06:13] <Cntryboy> with out the . at beginning
[06:13] <oni-dracula> ok thats not good
[06:13] <graig> i booted off the live cd and installed the chat program.
[06:13] <oni-dracula> WoW will not launch
[06:13] <thechris> Cntryboy: is /media/windows the same place hda5 is mounted to?
[06:13] <oni-dracula> the program executes and terminates within seconds
[06:14] <graig> i cant even use apt-get on it, because it wont let me log in :(
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  run it from the shell? you using wine or cedega?
[06:14] <Cntryboy> I guess so I did the steps found here on a link
[06:14] <oni-dracula> cedega gui
[06:14] <oni-dracula> attempted command line
[06:14] <nosklo> SAM_theman: no, tnx, everything is working here...
[06:14] <oni-dracula> nogo
[06:14] <domingo> what's command  to quit?
[06:14] <n30n> I am having trouble installing the macromedia plugin for firefox.
[06:14] <nosklo> domingo: quit what?
[06:14] <nosklo> domingo: the chat?
[06:14] <thechris> Cntryboy: you might want to make a dir like /media/winroot and mount hda1 to that location
[06:14] <ColdFyre> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  the cedega homepage has tips for that game.. i cant recall the tricks i did ti get it working.. i think 'bigexe' was a needed option for one.
[06:14] <SAM_theman> Wow
[06:14] <oni-dracula> ah ok
[06:14] <domingo> computer end
[06:14] <oni-dracula> netsplit
[06:14] <ColdFyre> wow
[06:15] <wastrel> do they still have the autoban bots for that
[06:15] <domingo> computer is down..
[06:15] <wastrel> it wasn't a netsplit it was an irc client exploit
[06:15] <graig> anyone got any suggestions or should i reinstall?
[06:15] <wastrel> !ops
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> oni-dracula,  or just a silly use of the exploit
[06:15] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:15] <Hobbsee> nalioth: rob lilo ping
[06:15] <domingo> command is quit???? reboot
[06:15] <Cntryboy> okay so can I type a command to see what drives are actually mounted to /media/windows?
[06:15] <domingo> ?
[06:15] <oni-dracula> or that
[06:15] <ColdFyre> i wont do it again
[06:15] <nosklo> what is DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[06:15] <Hobbsee> ColdFyre: needs a kline
[06:15] <Cntryboy> to make sure that is that hda1 isn't in the same area
[06:15] <oni-dracula> mIRC users?
[06:15] <wastrel> nosklo:  don't do that
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> nosklo,  dont say that. :P
[06:15] <nosklo> sorry
[06:15] <nosklo> what does that means?
[06:15] <wastrel> it kills some people's network connections
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:15] <wastrel> it is a bug
[06:15] <nosklo> i didn't know?
[06:15] <ic56> Cntryboy: point your browser to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[06:15] <wastrel> in people's routers
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> its  a exploit/bug that makes some routers mess up
[06:15] <Hobbsee> nalioth: rob lilo ping ColdFyre deserves a kline
[06:15] <oni-dracula> ah routers
[06:15] <oni-dracula> nice
[06:15] <QMario> Is this an attack or a netsplit?
[06:16] <SAM_theman> AMD_XP, lol
[06:16] <Amaranth> attack
[06:16] <Cntryboy> i'm getting scroll lag sorry all the ppl splitting
[06:16] <garryfre> Here is what my line looks like in fstab to mount an ntfs partition with help from the great folks here ...  /dev/hda1 /mnt/Sata1 ntfs uid=1000,umask=000,ro 0 0
[06:16] <QMario> Amaranth, how do you know?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if that works in games as well?
[06:16] <graig> does anyone know how to fix a crashed ubuntu install?
[06:16] <SAM_theman> AMD_XP, I think intel just hit ya
[06:16] <Amaranth> QMario: I saw the exploit being used and banned the person using it.
[06:16] <nosklo> it is a router bug?
[06:16] <n30n> What is going on? did i get banned or something?
[06:16] <ic56> Cntryboy: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[06:16] <Hobbsee> n30n: no, there was an exploit
[06:16] <ardy> help how to get into remote ssh, my firestarter is on
[06:16] <Cntryboy> well thats a script right ic56
[06:17] <Cntryboy> I wanna learn how to do it manually
[06:17] <klees> where is the keyboard shortcuts (gnome) kept?
[06:17] <arcraig> wow i'm trying this for the first time and it's actually decent.. it just works
[06:17] <klees> the file configuration
[06:17] <ic56> Cntryboy: ah. ok.  Good for you!
[06:17] <Amaranth> nosklo: Cheap linksys and netgear routers with owners that haven't bothered to update their firmware.
[06:17] <graig> need major help pls.
[06:17] <Cntryboy> I got hda5 fine but hda1 is well being an ass..
[06:17] <oni-dracula> ok why can't I find "big exe" again
[06:18] <Cntryboy> thechris so do u think its not working because i'm trying to mount 2 partions to /windows/media?
[06:18] <QMario> Amaranth, I'm sorry. I didn't know. :(
[06:18] <Cntryboy> is that why I should do /windows/winroot?
[06:18] <spikeb> hmm
[06:18] <ic56> Cntryboy: are hda1 and hda5 the same type (FAT vs NTFS)?
[06:18] <Cntryboy> sorry, im new to linux. Installed it today lol
[06:18] <PyroMithrandir> Cntryboy, you can't mount two partitions to the same place
[06:18] <graig> will the live cd desktop install, let me install without overwriting my home partition?
[06:18] <spikeb> Amaranth: i have one of those and i didnt fall off
[06:18] <spikeb> heh
[06:18] <Cntryboy> both are ntfs ic56
[06:18] <garryfre> I wonder if you have your boot loader on hda1 and its still in use when you hit the fstab?
[06:18] <Amaranth> spikeb: it must have updated firmware
[06:18] <Amaranth> spikeb: or you're connected to chat.freenode.net
[06:18] <Cntryboy> ok thx pyro
[06:18] <Amaranth> which seems to filter that stuff out
[06:19] <Cntryboy> let me try another location
[06:19] <Cntryboy> brb
[06:19] <Cntryboy> thx again
[06:19] <graig> is this the help channel?
[06:19] <crimsun_> graig: /topic
[06:19] <spikeb> Amaranth: yeah it's not that old
[06:19] <noonex> is there a way to stop certain mounted drives from having icons on my desktop?
[06:20] <nalioth> ColdFyre: why are you still here?
[06:20] <thechris> Cntryboy: yes, you will need 1 mountpoint per partition.  if you want to "combine" them, you can look into "unionfs", but that a more advanced topic
[06:20] <graig> crimsun_:  my ubuntu crashed when i canceled a compile operation.
[06:20] <graig> crimsun_: now i cant log in,  but it does boot.
[06:20] <graig> crimsun_: it gives me the message /home/graig not found.
[06:21] <Amaranth> nalioth: He can't talk.
[06:21] <tapox> How do I manually specify monitor resolution?
[06:21] <nalioth> Amaranth: so i noticed
[06:21] <CurtisB> hi!  I'm trying to make a script so my wife can type: playit <keyword> to play a favorite song(s) but this isn't working as I'd have hoped: find /media/hda4/music -print | grep $1 > exec xmms -p -Q {} > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[06:21] <MonkeyINAbaG> heyas, im having problems with the ubuntu server.... i just installed wordpress, which i think uses php5, under the LAMP install of dapper, when i hit the server with a browser, firefox asks me if i want to download the php/phtml files, the server cant seem to process them
[06:21] <garryfre> !resolution
[06:21] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:21] <Amaranth> MonkeyINAbaG: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[06:21] <tapox> garryfre: ty
[06:21] <crimsun_> noonex: gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible --type boolean false
[06:21] <graig> crimsun_: booted off the live cd, and i can see the partitions.  will the desktop cd allow me to install ubuntu, without messing up my /home partition?
[06:22] <garryfre> tapox wc
[06:22] <squidly> graig: is /home on a seperate particions form your system partisions?
[06:22] <crimsun_> noonex: note that's for all mounted volumes
[06:22] <graig> squidly: yes it is.
[06:22] <squidly> graig: then you should be able to
[06:22] <squidly> i konw with edubuntu you can
[06:22] <aero> hi
[06:22] <Amaranth> Time for my nightly windows gaming, back later.
[06:23] <thechris> CurtisB: do you need to escape the {}'s?
[06:23] <wastrel> CurtisB:  try   xargs instead of the  grep > xmms
[06:23] <MonkeyINAbaG> crap
[06:23] <graig> squidly: i wonder if there's a way to fix it, without reinstalling, i hit ctrl-c during a compile, and now i cant even log in, but i have this live cd working.
[06:23] <Cntryboy> mmm gang this is my error msg :(
[06:23] <Cntryboy> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/winroot busy
[06:23] <Cntryboy> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/windows
[06:23] <MonkeyINAbaG> i do have libapache2-mod-php5 installed
[06:23] <Cntryboy> so its saying its already mounted, but yet its not working
[06:23] <MonkeyINAbaG> can anyone else help me?
[06:23] <Cntryboy> should I unmount it from windows first?
[06:23] <squidly> graig: /msg me the error
[06:23] <ic56> Cntryboy: define "not working"?
[06:23] <noonex> crimsun_: thank you
[06:24] <Cntryboy> I mean I tried to remount hda1 to winroot
[06:24] <oni-dracula> Dr_Willis, I seem to be encountering an issue where I can't find the "big exe" option...I've seen it before!
[06:24] <phlexonance> need help with installing opera
[06:24] <joao> how can I upgrade my fire fox 1.0 to 1.5 in ubuntu?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> and thats the error I got saying its already mounted, but it doesn't show in filesystem and says its not mounted
[06:24] <Flannel> joao: you're on 5.10?
[06:24] <graig> squidly: when i tried to log in on my account, it said /home/graig not found, or something to that effect.
[06:24] <thechris> Cntryboy: you will need to be in another dir.  eg, if you have files open on /media/windows, or if you have a console open and in /media/windows, you will not be able to unmount it
[06:24] <joao> ya
[06:24] <ic56> Cntryboy: like was said before.  You cannot be mounted read-write in two places simultaneously.  So, you have to umount before you can mount elsewhere.
[06:24] <CurtisB> thechris & wastrel -- thanks, I'll be afk checking into that!
[06:24] <thechris> Cntryboy: issue the command "mount"  this will show all mounted systems
[06:25] <squidly> graig: what were you building?
[06:25] <oni-dracula> ugh nevermind
[06:25] <Flannel> joao: well, if you upgrade to 6.06, it comes with 1.5, but if you'd like to just upgrade FF, you can use the link ubotu is sending you
[06:25] <graig> squidly amule
[06:25] <Flannel> !tell joao about ff1.5
[06:25] <squidly> graig: hmm.. that is odd..
[06:25] <steev-dell> are the vpn plugins for NetworkManager not available in Dapper?
[06:25] <Cntryboy> I don't want to unmount /media/windows because hda5 is working fine. I just want to remove the mount for hda1 in /media/windows
[06:25] <Cntryboy> but not to sure how
[06:25] <dylan_> does anybody know if i can run dapper smoothly and successfully (in terms of hardware detection) on a iBook ?
[06:25] <klees> does anyone know what file holds the keyboard shortcuts?
[06:25] <squidly> graig: can you see your /home in the live cd? and does it have stuff on it.
[06:25] <squidly> what about logging in as root?
[06:25] <graig> squidly: what i did exactly, was i downloaded the amule source, ./configured it.  then i forgot to type make and i typed  sudo checkinstall
[06:25] <ic56> Cntryboy: umount /dev/hda1
[06:25] <thechris> Cntryboy: is hda1 and hda5 mounted right now?  use "mount" to find out
[06:26] <Cntryboy> ./dev/hda1 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[06:26] <graig> squidly: havent tried mounting it.
[06:26] <oni-dracula> Traceback (most recent call last):
[06:26] <oni-dracula>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2979, in ?
[06:26] <oni-dracula>     gddb_file = detected[0]
[06:26] <oni-dracula> TypeError: unsubscriptable object
[06:26] <Flannel> dylan_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnMac
[06:26] <squidly> graig: try to mount it
[06:26] <Cntryboy> I did thechris and yes it shows both mounted to /media/windows
[06:26] <graig> ok.
[06:26] <dylan_> Flannel, thank you
[06:26] <ic56> Cntryboy: umount /dev/hda1
[06:26] <squidly> i bet the sudo check install might have messed up something
[06:26] <Cntryboy> okday thx
[06:26] <Cntryboy> brb
[06:26] <graig> squidly: i bet so hehe :)
[06:26] <phlexonance> need help with installing opera
[06:26] <thechris> Cntryboy: umount /dev/hda1 ;  if this fails, you will need to find what is "using" /dev/hda1
[06:27] <Cntryboy> grr
[06:27] <squidly> that is why you must be carefull with sudo :D
[06:27] <Cntryboy> umount: /dev/hda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[06:27] <garryfre> I hope that those two aren't mounted to the same mount point of /media/windows for it's not a good idea because one could have issues with files and directories with same names.
[06:27] <squidly> its about as dangerus as using root to everyday activities
[06:27] <nameless14> what do you put in stab to make it do the same as     mount --bind /tree/dir1 /tree/dir2   I just need it to do that type of mounting each time ubuntu boots up. Its hard to find info on google for this, anyone know how?
[06:27] <thechris> Cntryboy: oh, umount /media/windows
[06:27] <Cntryboy> my hair is falling out lol
[06:28] <graig> squidly: how do i mount it?
[06:28] <Cntryboy> if I umount /media/windows my hda5 will be unmounted to though right?
[06:28] <garryfre> Use remount hair -now
[06:28] <Cntryboy> lol garry
[06:28] <graig> lol.
[06:28] <thechris> Cntryboy: really if you have fstab correct you _can_ just reboot and it will work.  it beats pulling out hair
[06:28] <squidly> graig: mount -t $FILESYSTEM /dev/hda(1-8) /mnt/
[06:28] <squidly> lol garryfre
[06:28] <oni-dracula> ok what the fark...why am I getting a point2play error in cedega... I don't have point2play installed! argh!
[06:28] <squidly> if your /home is on your fist ide hard drive
[06:29] <phlexonance> when trying to install opera with the .deb, it tells me i need xlib6g or xlibs, but I cant get those with apt-get install
[06:29] <lilo> looked like maybe Patrick McFarland, but hard to tell
[06:29] <ic56> thechris: you have made a big mess.    If your object is to learn, rather than to get it working, why not read the manuals?  Read the following manpages: mount, umount, fstab
[06:29] <lilo> oops
[06:29] <graig> squidly: it is, and its the um, ext3
[06:29] <ic56> Cntryboy: you have made a big mess.    If your object is to learn, rather than to get it working, why not read the manuals?  Read the following manpages: mount, umount, fstab
[06:29] <Cntryboy> so if I umount /media/windows this will unmount both, but it will allow me to remount hda5 and then I can always remount the /media/windows correct?
[06:29] <lilo> oops, please ignore, wrong window
[06:29] <ic56> Sorry about the thechris
[06:29] <squidly> hey lilo
[06:29] <squidly> graig: ahh lol
[06:29] <lilo> hey squidly
[06:29] <squidly> whats up?
[06:29] <ic56> Cntryboy: no, it won't umount them both.
[06:29] <graig> ill be crying if i lost 70 gigs lol.
[06:30] <gaydongs> DCC SEND WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
[06:30] <squidly> graig: on mount -t ext3 /dev/hda(partision of home) /mnt
[06:30] <SAM_theman> Yes the Miami HEat Finally Wow Game 3
[06:30] <Cntryboy> lol I just want to unmount hda1 from /windows/media where I can remount it to /media/winroot lol
[06:30] <Hobbsee> lilo: ping.
[06:30] <SAM_theman> 98 to 96
[06:30] <Cntryboy> thats all :)
[06:30] <squidly> well shit on me
[06:30] <thechris> Cntryboy: just keep umounting /media/windows.  once it no longer shows up in "mount", make sure fstab is correct, and mount /media/windows
[06:30] <wastrel> used to be ubotu would auto k-line ppl doing that
[06:30] <wastrel> !ops
[06:30] <Flannel> wastrel: ubotu got overzealous
[06:30] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:30] <Hobbsee> wastrel: we know
[06:30] <lilo> wastrel: ubotu probably isn't set up to do it
[06:30] <Flannel> wastrel: and, he's already gone
[06:31] <QMario> Wastrel, what happened to ubotu?
[06:31] <lilo> wastrel: but I just klined
[06:31] <Cntryboy> okay i'll unmount it then remount hda1 to /media/winroot
[06:31] <wastrel> nvm
[06:31] <Hobbsee> lilo: ubugtu is, i just op'd it again
[06:31] <CurtisB> in the 6.06 distro's is the "alternate" ISO for the livecd? if not, is there a torrent for the i386 livecd?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> since I can't have both mounted to /media/windows
[06:31] <Cntryboy> this is hard stuff I tell ya lol
[06:31] <phlexonance> when trying to install opera with the .deb, it tells me i need xlib6g or xlibs, but I cant get those with apt-get install
[06:31] <lilo> Hobbsee: to kline or to kickban?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> brb
[06:31] <nalioth> wastrel: yes i got it
[06:31] <Hobbsee> lilo: kickban, iirc
[06:31] <squidly> god I just love idiots like that
[06:31] <Flannel> CurtisB: the "desktop" is the liveCD.  the Alternate is the textmode installer
[06:31] <klees> desktop = livecd
[06:31] <Hobbsee> squidly: haha yeah - this hasnt happened in ages
[06:31] <lilo> Hobbsee: well, I klined, hopefully that will help
[06:31] <garryfre> Just use a separate mount point that you pre-create
[06:31] <Hobbsee> lilo: yay, thanks :)
[06:31] <Flannel> Hobbsee: it happened yesterday ;)
[06:31] <squidly> lilo ftw!
[06:31] <squidly> :D
[06:31] <CurtisB> Flannel - ahh, okay, thanks!
[06:32] <lilo> it's summer in the Northern Hemisphere, and unfortunately some folks are bored and childish
[06:32] <Cntryboy> that didn't work either lol...error umount: it seems /media/windows is mounted multiple times