[12:19] <popey> katkin: ping - why are there no 64-bit desktop CDs in the CD boxes that got shipped out to LoCos?
[12:30] <katkin> popey: because it was decided that we wouldn't produce 64-bit CDs for 8.10
[13:14] <popey> katkin: oooh, interesting
[13:16] <popey> katkin: is that a cost measure or some other reason?


[09:30] <mup> PR snapd#8218 opened: [RFC] cmd/snapd, daemon/snapd: use multi call binary <⛔ Blocked> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8218>
[11:08] <mup> PR snapd#8219 opened: interfaces: use udev backend if udev socket exists <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8219>
[12:30] <zyga> jdstrand: hey
[12:30] <zyga> jdstrand: will you dial in to the meeting?
[13:28] <ijohnson> jdstrand: hey when you get a chance can you comment on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/interface-request-cups-control-on-cups-snap-and-including-d-bus/15233? there's a desire to move this forward soonish, probably with a call in 2-3 weeks to account for traveling
[14:04] <jdstrand> ijohnson: ack (this was actually one of the few things left in my mass push to clear out everything)
[14:05] <jdstrand> assuming it is the topic I'm thinking of
[14:05]  * jdstrand jotted it down
[14:28] <ijohnson> thanks jdstrand!
[15:37] <ackk> hi, does anyone know what could be wrong with  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v8YjXQZwrb/ ?
[16:41] <mup> PR snapcraft#2957 opened: go plugin: do not remove install /bin directory before build <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2957>
[18:06] <mup> PR snapcraft#2958 opened: dotnet plugin: use the new endpoint for releases <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2958>
[22:39] <mup> PR snapcraft#2958 closed: dotnet plugin: use the new endpoint for releases <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2958>
[22:48] <mup> PR snapcraft#2959 opened: dotnet plugin: use the new endpoint for releases <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2959>
[22:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#2959 closed: dotnet plugin: use the new endpoint for releases <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2959>


[01:10] <lokey> hi
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 i got error during booting
 'xsession warning unable to write to tmp'
 and root partiton is already full(i think this isnt problem)
 any fix??
 but booting plasma from root user just works but not case with standard user
 i got error during booting
 'xsession warning unable to write to tmp'
 and root partiton is already full(i think this isnt problem)
 any fix??
 edit : it used to work even with full  occupied   / partition


[07:40] <slvn_> Hi, I have posted a feature request on libmirclient
[07:40] <slvn_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1382209
[07:41] <slvn_> It would be nice if someone could consider it !
[07:41] <slvn_> This is my last blocker to submit application for ubuntu touch
[08:04] <tvoss> slvn_, thanks for the bug report :)
[08:55] <slvn_> tvoss, you're welcome ! I need this feature, to publish my SDL application ! I need anyone porting an SDL game, or any native application will need this feature !
[08:55] <slvn_> I  think anyone porting an SDL game, or any native application will need this feature !
[08:56] <tvoss> slvn_, yup, I think I know what you are after. Out of curiosity: did you use our sdl 2 backend for porting purposes?
[08:58] <slvn_> tvoss,  yes of course !   I have had any talks and help with bschaefer about it ! and I also a reported a few minors fixes
[08:58] <tvoss> slvn_, awesome, thank you
[08:59] <slvn_> (and I got help from many people here ! for cross-compiling and making think works)
[08:59] <tvoss> slvn_, great,thanks for the feedback :)
[08:59] <slvn_> s/think/thing
[09:00] <slvn_> from my point of view. Developing native app on ios/android/winrt/nacl/macox/linux
[09:00] <slvn_> the main blocker remaining to develop native app
[09:00] <slvn_> is this orientation issue !
[12:28] <kdub_> alan_g, are you working on https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/spike-making-render_surfaces-an-example/+merge/238562/comments/586081 ? If not I'll take it up
[12:52] <alan_g> kdub_: I'm not - what are you thinking of doing with it?
[12:52] <kdub_> alan_g, just seeing if its possible to just override the DisplayBufferCompositor, and get rid of the factory
[12:54] <alan_g> That would be good to establish
[12:57] <kdub_> its looking easier to use so far
[12:57] <kdub_> we don't have to make the overriding code fiddle with our funny compositor id system
[13:11] <alf__> kdub_: Note that the factory is there so that the implementation could: 1. Provide customized/optimized DisplayBufferCompositors for maximum performance (e.g. with a gl renderer tailor-made for each display buffer)
[13:11] <alf__> kdub_: 2. Easily handle dynamic construction/destruction of DisplayBufferCompositors as display configurations change
[13:11] <kdub_> alf__, but as it is, one DisplayBufferCompositor is made for each displaybuffer
[13:12] <kdub_> and, as things change, it seems easier to just adjust the existing gl program than construct a new one
[13:12] <kdub_> but its good to keep in mind
[13:13] <alf__> kdub_: right, that was the point, create a DisplayBufferCompositor tailor-made for each displaybuffer
[13:15] <kdub_> I'm still missing some part of the argument
[13:18] <kdub_> alf__, ^^
[13:19] <alf__> kdub_: ok, so, what is the plan for handling multiple display buffers internally in the new version of DBC? (e.g. two different calls from different threads for dbc.composite(db1,...) dbc.composite(db2,...) ?
[13:20] <kdub_> the gl program adjusts
[13:20] <kdub_> I guess the real win in terms of ease of use is moving the SceneElementSequence
[13:22] <alf__> kdub_: note that dbc.composite() calls could be concurrent, we can't have a single gl program, we need one for each displaybuffer
[13:22] <kdub_> well right, one dbc per displaybuffer
[13:24] <alf__> kdub_: One dbc per displaybuffer? I am confused, I thought that you were suggesting a single dbc for all?
[13:25] <kdub_> no, just shifting how the DisplayBufferCompositor gets the DisplayBuffer
[13:26] <kdub_> right now, we force the implementers of DisplayBuffer to go through the DisplayBufferCompositorFactory and their own constructors to get the DisplayBuffer to use
[13:28] <alf__> kdub_: ok, without a factory how do we create new DisplayBuffers in MultiThreadedCompositor when the configuration changes?
[13:29] <kdub_> I'm a bit more focused on making the DisplayBufferCompositor::composite easier to use
[13:29] <kdub_> still not sure if getting rid of the factory is doable
[13:29] <kdub_> still exploring
[13:35] <alf__> kdub_: sure, I am trying to use the socratic method (on both of us :)) to bring to the surface all the parameters that may affect the decision.
[13:37] <kdub_> socratic method... the true greek way :D


 I've just released 'una', a complete helper (similar to yay and paru for Arch) for the MPR, which is an AUR alternative for Debian users. For those not familiar with the AUR, it's a community-driven Arch package repository developed and maintained by Arch users
 https://twitter.com/RudraSaraswat1/status/1488423685807828996


[07:43] <Cavanini> hello, I need help with upgrading 14.04
[18:08] <samik> Can someone confirm if this package is corrupted or not? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.13.0-19_4.13.0-19.22_all.deb
[18:09] <samik> This is the o/p I get while trying to install it manually http://paste.ubuntu.com/26171609/
[18:09] <samik> and apt reports hash mismatch


[10:41] <warp10> Hi all!
[12:51] <dholbach> MOTU Q&A session in #ubuntu-classroom
[13:00] <dholbach> hello everybody and welcome to another MOTU Q&A session! who do we have here for the session today?
[13:01]  * dholbach is Daniel Holbach and seems until now to be alone in this session :-)
[13:01]  * DktrKranz is Luca Falavigna, and please don't ask hard questions :)
[13:02]  * dholbach hugs DktrKranz
[13:02]  * mruiz is Miguel Ruiz... MOTU hopeful
[13:02]  * persia is Emmet Hikory, present but slow to respond.
[13:03]  * Hobbsee is absent.
[13:03] <dholbach> it seems the MOTU Q&A session could do with some more advertising :)
[13:03] <dholbach> do we have anybody with questions around?
[13:04]  * slytherin is Onkar, MOTU hopeful and bugs persia and geser most of the time on #ubuntu-motu for solving java related problems.
[13:04] <dholbach> thanks a lot for your work on that, slytherin
[13:05] <slytherin> dholbach: I am glad I could help
[13:06] <mruiz> dholbach, days ago I received a build error message: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/doc-debian/3.1.5ubuntu1/+build/502337. I'm wondering if someone could help me ...
[13:06] <dholbach> mruiz: great - let's take a look at it
[13:07] <dholbach> Build finished at 20080131-1850
[13:07] <dholbach> to me it looks like it succeeded
[13:07] <dholbach> Status:  	Failed to upload
[13:07] <mruiz> the upload to the archive was rejected... more details: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4339/
[13:07] <persia> mruiz: You've caught an odd one: Failed to Upload
[13:07] <persia> These typically indicate some oddity inside Soyuz at the time of the build
[13:07] <DktrKranz> Failed to Upload, cprov's fault :)
[13:08] <dholbach> best to ask cprov or more generally on #launchpad
[13:08] <persia> I'd suggest asking a buildd admin to take a look on #ubuntu-devel (although bugging cprov on #launchpad is also known to help)
[13:10]  * warp10 joins the session a little late... sorry!
[13:10] <dholbach> hello warp10
[13:10] <mruiz> this package includes documentation, but it generates not only .deb files ... some txt files appeared
[13:10] <slytherin> I have one question. What is general criteria for approval of MOTU membership?
[13:10] <warp10> hi dholbach and all
[13:11] <dholbach> slytherin: a good track record of doing good work in the team and usually the best indicator is if your sponsors are completely happy with your work
[13:11] <angelblade>  :)
[13:11] <dholbach> when applicants ask me for my opinion as a MC member, I ask them to talk to their sponsors and get their input on the matter
[13:12] <slytherin> dholbach: Does that mean it is best to have most of your work sponsored by same person?
[13:12] <dholbach> slytherin: no, it's very good to work with a variety of people - as you tend to learn more that way
[13:12] <dholbach> that's why the general sponsoring process is a good thing
[13:13] <slytherin> Ok
[13:13] <mruiz> dholbach, indeed... we have to work with the team :D
[13:13] <persia> slytherin: I would recommend having your work be sponsored by many people.  Ideally you'll start working on something in such a way that you are working with your sponsors as peers, rather than as sponsors.
[13:13] <dholbach> :-)
[13:13] <persia> At this point, they are typically more than happy to say anything good about you it takes so that you can upload on your own.
[13:14] <slytherin> And how do I decide when I am ready for membership? :-D
[13:15] <persia> slytherin: That's a little more well defined.  You need "significant and sustained" contrinbutions, which is often interpreted as at least 2-6 months of stuff (depending on activity level), and attaining the respect and commendations of your peers working in that area.
[13:15] <dholbach> (if you refer to ubuntumembers membership)
[13:15] <slytherin> dholbach: No, I am talking MOTU membership
[13:16] <persia> (yes.  one should wait for at least two sponsors to prompt prior to applying for membership of MOTU)
[13:16] <dholbach> if you refer to MOTU membership instead: ask people that you've worked with (your sponsors), look at previous applications
[13:16] <persia> slytherin: In that case, I answered the wrong question.
[13:16] <slytherin> persia: Your latest answer is what I was looking for. :-)
[13:17] <ScottK> I've found it's common for me to be pushing people to apply before they think they are ready.  I've also seen people turned down that applied to soon.
[13:17] <ScottK> Waiting for sponsors to suggest it is a good idea.
[13:19] <dholbach> if it happens regularly to you that your patches are sponsored as they are, that's a good sign :)
[13:20] <persia> Personally, I think other good signs are MOTUs asking you for your opinion on various issues, finding that you have good answers to other Contributor questions, etc.
[13:21] <slytherin> I guess I will wait for few weeks more. :-)
[13:23] <dholbach> slytherin: It's great to have you on the team :-)
[13:23] <dholbach> do we have any other questions?
[13:26] <dholbach> no questions? :)
[13:26]  * Hobbsee is sure someone has a question
[13:27] <persia> If there are no questions, all Contributors in the audience should go find a bug, and submit for sponsoring.  Any issues encountered may be considered questions.
[13:27] <mruiz> hey dholbach
[13:27] <dholbach> hey mruiz :)
[13:27] <dholbach> persia: that's a good one :)
[13:27] <tuxmaniac> guess I am late..
[13:28] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: no, not at all! :)
[13:28] <persia> tuxmaniac: Late is acceptable, as long as you have a question or want an answer :)
[13:28] <dholbach> if you have a question, fire away :)
[13:28] <mruiz> I was working on a upgrade bug... (rezound) and I discovered a strange way to package it.
[13:29] <Hobbsee> dholbach: i have a question.  what should someone do, that is actually useful, if they can't get a MOTU to review their stuff - particularly a new package on REVU?
[13:29] <dholbach> mruiz: what's the problem you're seeing?
[13:30] <persia> Hobbsee: There are cases of that?  Which package: I'll review it now.
[13:30] <mruiz> rezound directory only contains: debian  rezound-0.12.2beta.tar.gz  rezound-0.12.2beta.tar.gz.cdbs-config_list
[13:30] <Hobbsee> persia: i'm talking in the generic case - perhaps not so much now, but it certainly used to be a problem
[13:30] <Hobbsee> and probably will be, after ff
[13:30] <tuxmaniac> How do you handle problems related to upstream not ready to patch/create man pages according to lintian standards. Will Debian/Ubuntu always keep dpatching them? Or say upstream is not that active.
[13:30] <persia> Hobbsee: Ah.  After FF.  Hmm.  I'll see about that somehow (and don't have an answer now).
[13:31] <mruiz> dholbach, for me is new . I expected rezound files ... it uses cdbs
[13:31] <dholbach> mruiz: it seems that they use tarball.mk (where you drop the upstream tarball into it)
[13:31] <persia> mruiz: You've encountered the dreaded tarball-in-tarball.  cdbs-edit-patch or dpatch-edit-patch should untar to allow you to patch.
[13:32] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: it's perfectly acceptable to keep an added manpage as a patch if upstream does not respond to a bug that requests adding it
[13:32] <mruiz> dholbach, indeed debian/rules includes /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/tarball.mk
[13:32] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: there's no need to make it a patch, you can simply add it to the debian directory and list it in debian/manpages
[13:32] <persia> tuxmaniac: That is part of what MOTU does: make sure the packages meet our policies.  If upstream will accept patches, that is good.  If not, we have to carry them.
[13:32] <mruiz> dholbach, for this case, how should I package the upgrade ?
[13:33] <persia> mruiz: Best to check with the Debian maintainer to see if they want tarball-in-tarball again so that the orig.tar.gz can be the same and it can later be a sync.
[13:33] <mruiz> persia, thanks :D
[13:33] <dholbach> mruiz: I'm not sure it's the most elegant way but what should work is; mkdir reszound-<version>; cp -r rezound-<oldversion>/debian rezound-<version>.tar.gz rezound-<version>
[13:34] <dholbach> (and change the version in debian/rules if necessary)
[13:34] <dholbach> there's something that intrigued me about tarball.mk when I started packaging, but I forgot what it was and find it a bit annoying today :)
[13:34]  * mruiz prefers debhelper instead of cdbs
[13:35] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: did that answer your question?
[13:35] <mruiz> dholbach, persia : thanks for your guidance ;-) ...
[13:35] <tuxmaniac> dholbach, yes.
[13:35] <dholbach> great
[13:36] <dholbach> any other questions? anything we should take a look at together?
[13:36]  * warp10 has a question
[13:36] <dholbach> warp10: great
[13:36] <Hobbsee> dholbach: can i have a heater?
[13:37]  * Hobbsee is freezing!
[13:37] <dholbach> Hobbsee: that's a good question - it's cold here too
[13:37]  * persia is happy: 18 degrees of pure warmth
[13:37] <warp10> I am packaging a software that creates an empty dir (/usr/share/locale) and lintian raises a warning about that
[13:38] <warp10> Do I need to fix that? And if I do, what's best: using an rm in debian/control or patching upstream Makefile?
[13:38] <ScottK> Hobbsee: If you're test building stuff you've packaged, your computer will warm the room.
[13:39] <Hobbsee> ScottK: yeah, but i'd prefer a slight lack of fire
[13:39] <dholbach> warp10: it's definitely a good idea to find out what's creating the directory - to me it looks like it's lacking translations that are installed there
[13:41] <warp10> dholbach: indeed. the po/ is almost empty, but there is a Makefile.in.in that creates that directory
[13:41] <dholbach> /usr/share/locale is a good thing - so the better fix might be to find out why no translations are shipped
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> [repeat post] darn my network
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> there was a bug 189030. It was a sync request.
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> Build failed on hppa architecture, but still the status is Fix released?
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> or how does one resolve such arch dependent issues in MOTU.
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> [end]
[13:42] <dholbach> in all other cases it's acceptable to remove an empty directory (if you can't figure out why or how it's created)
[13:42] <Hobbsee> tuxmaniac: one doesn't care about hppa, unless one's name is lamont.
[13:42] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:42] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee, heheh
[13:42] <warp10> dholbach: probably upstream would like to add locales, but haven't been added yet
[13:42] <persia> tuxmaniac: Currently "Fix Released" means the source fix was released.  You found a different bug.
[13:43] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: the sync was executed so the bug is fixed - that it fails to build on one architecture is a different bug
[13:43] <warp10> dholbach: ok, so an rm in debian/rules would be enough?
[13:43] <dholbach> warp10: are there *.po files?
[13:43] <tuxmaniac> aah true. thanks dholbach persia
[13:43] <warp10> dholbach: no *.po files there
[13:44] <dholbach> warp10: I personally would leave the directory there and ignore lintian
[13:44] <dholbach> maybe the next release ships translations
[13:44] <dholbach> in that case you will have to re-review debian/rules every time
[13:44] <dholbach> (and by mistake ship the good translations :))
[13:44] <dholbach> (and by mistake *not* ship the good translations :))
[13:45] <warp10> dholbach: yeah, maybe. Good idea, I'll do that. Thanks :)
[13:45] <dholbach> no problem
[13:45] <dholbach> more questions? :)
[13:45] <shibata> I have a questiion. I have translated documents in packaging-guide package to Japanese, but it seems to be obsolete document compare to on wiki. Do you have plan to release new packaging-guide or other MOTU's documents until hardy release?
[13:45] <persia> Note that this makes sense for directories like /usr/share/locale which can be expected to be on a user system.  For directories like /usr/lib/mypackage/quux/plugins/foo/ removal is a better option.
[13:46] <persia> shibata: Thank you very much, but no.  The wiki is replacing the package.  Perhaps you could put the translated documentation on the wiki?
[13:46] <dholbach> that would be great
[13:47] <dholbach> thanks a lot for the work you put into translating it
[13:47] <mruiz> dholbach, do you have a schedule (or deadline) for the packaging guide?
[13:47] <persia> dholbach: Have you filed for removal of that confusing package?
[13:47] <shibata> persia: Should I translate bese on wiki?
[13:47] <dholbach> persia: I'll talk to mdke about it
[13:47] <persia> shibata: If you have the time to translate the wiki instead, that would be even better :)
[13:48] <dholbach> do we have a canonical way of doing translations on the wiki?
[13:48] <persia> (of course, if there was a sane method to exchange email between Ubuntu and 携帯 it would be more useful)
[13:48] <dholbach> or would it just be  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/<PackagingGuide in Japanese> ?
[13:50] <dholbach> how do you say PackagingGuide in Japanese? :)
[13:50] <shibata> Now, I translate on Japanese LoCo Wiki.
[13:50] <persia> dholbach: MoinMoin has some multilingual features: lots of boilerplate is autotranslated to Japanese from a Japanese browser.  I'm not sure how it works though.  Be nice to leverage that if possible.
[13:51] <dholbach> persia: I'll look into it
[13:51] <shibata> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/UbuntuPackagingGuideJa/
[13:51] <dholbach> thanks for your work on it shibata
[13:51] <persia> shibata: Until there is some reasonable documentation on the wiki about how to do proper multilingual pages, that's a very good place.  Thanks again.
[13:52] <dholbach> I can't understand it, but it's beautiful
[13:52]  * dholbach loves looking at 'foreign characters' :)
[13:53] <shibata> If translate on official wiki, do I use same way Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter?
[13:54] <dholbach> shibata: we could do that - I'll try to find out if there's a different way to do it and let you know
[13:54] <eradicus> cool
[13:55] <shibata> dholbach, persia: thanks
[13:55] <dholbach> shibata: thank you
[13:55] <dholbach> pango and gtk seem to figure out where a new japanese word starts, but it's hard for me to "see it"
[13:56] <persia> dholbach: That's OK.  Even humans determine word breaks by context and meaning rather than graphical representation.
[13:56] <dholbach> yeah :)
[13:57] <mruiz> :)
[13:58] <dholbach> any other questions?
[13:59] <dholbach> if not, I'd take my dog for a walk now and see you in #ubuntu-motu later on :)
[13:59] <dholbach> thanks everybody for showing up and asking very good questions
[13:59] <dholbach> and thanks to everybody helping to answer the questions
[14:00] <shibata> thank you
[14:00] <mruiz> thanks guys


[23:49] <guiverc> Bashing-om, I can open UbuntuColumbia without issues, but no new videos there in 2+ months
[23:52] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Thanks - will troubleshoot my end further for that URL .
[23:53]  * guiverc thankful it's not me; I hate browser issues; they're no fun


[04:08] <lfaraone> with CUT, how usable is the development release this early in the cycle?
[04:33] <Noskcaj> lfaraone, I've been on 14.04 since it became an option, it's pretty good, but don't enable -proposed
[20:51] <Noskcaj> Is anyone willing to give me a testimonial at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj/MOTU ?


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[02:50] <mwhudson> ah nuts
[02:50] <mwhudson> RAOF: around?
[02:51] <RAOF> Yo!
[02:52] <RAOF> mwhudson: What can I do you for?
[02:53] <mwhudson> RAOF: i forgot something in my recent glibc upload so i was going to ask you to delete it but i guess just uploading the new version has more or less the same effect
[02:53] <mwhudson> so long as i do it before britney starts any tests for it, which shouldn't be hard
[02:53] <RAOF> Pretty much, yeah :)
[02:54] <mwhudson> ok there we go
[02:55] <mwhudson> RAOF: sorry for the noise
[02:55] <RAOF> No problem!
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[09:03] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, hello, your opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/automake-1.16/+bug/1960608/comments/8 ?
[09:03] <LocutusOfBorg> I suspect many python sadness due to this
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[16:34] <vorlon> locutusofborg_: ecosconfig-imx> please file a bug report for source removal requests
[16:38] <vorlon> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/jammy_uninst.txt fwiw looks like we have some lingering uninstallables now after the python3 migration
[16:40] <vorlon> RikMills: Debian removed ksysguardd as "replaced upstream by plasma-systemmonitor/ksystemstats"; do you want to unseed it / do you want it removed?
[16:52] <locutusofborg_> vorlon, also myspell that is gone in Debian?
[16:53] <vorlon> locutusofborg_: those get handled via process-removals, no bug needed (the removal will reference the Debian bug)
[16:53] <locutusofborg_> thanks
[16:54] <locutusofborg_> I was wondering because that myspell-tools is alternative dependency of hunspell-tools
[16:54] <locutusofborg_> so there are few false positive
[16:54] <locutusofborg_> I hope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecosconfig-imx/+bug/1963703 is enough
[16:54] <vorlon> sometimes takes a bit more thought to verify the removal, but yes :)
[17:00] <vorlon> would be nice if Debian ftpmasters would remove packages in dependency order, heh
[17:01] <RikMills> vorlon: src:ksysguard can be removed, yes
[17:01] <RikMills> should not be seeded now, unless you mean in 'supported'
[17:01] <vorlon> RikMills: that's what I mean; supported ought to be gardened to remove nonexistent packages
[17:02] <RikMills> vorlon: ok, can do then
[17:04] <vorlon> ginggs: fwiw python3-poliastro is on the shortlist of uninstallables in jammy right now and depends on python3-numba; I suppose I can demote it.  But there were knockon effects of not having it in the release
[17:11] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: myspell-tools removed; and ugh why are there all these alternate build-deps
[17:48] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, backports maybe?
[17:48] <LocutusOfBorg> don't really know tbh
[17:50] <LocutusOfBorg> people should work one month as ftpmasters or ubuntu-archive, and they might find alternate way of dealing with old deps :D
[17:51] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, how about dropping vkd3d on s390x? its a wine-development dependency, but wine-development is not built there
[17:51] <LocutusOfBorg> so meh
[19:18] <coreycb> ubuntu-archive: hello, could we stick with tenacity 6.3.1 for jammy? 8.0.1 is in jammy-proposed. it is mainly an openstack dependency and upstream does not support beyond 6.3.1 yet: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L529
[22:05] <tjaalton> vorlon: hi, in case you're still around, there's bug 1772588 again.. bunk resurrected these drivers for debian but they make no sense for ubuntu
[22:05] <tjaalton> in order to let xorg-server migrate it still needs a newer nvidia-390 and some tests overridden
[22:06] <tjaalton> I'm off next week, so I'm fine to postpone this until then
[22:07] <tjaalton> though we're well past FF at this point
[22:56] <vorlon> coreycb: note that python-tenacity is already blocked in -proposed because the gnocchi autopkgtests fail, which is a pretty clear indicator already of incompatibility; but if you want to make the hint stronger for people you can open a bug on python-tenacity and tag it block-proposed with explanation
[22:57] <coreycb> vorlon: thanks, I'll open a bug. I some new package versions I'd like to upload but are failing to build due to it.
[22:57] <vorlon> oh, then you actually need it removed from -proposed
[22:58] <vorlon> since there's no way to pin release packages for build
[22:58] <vorlon> coreycb: removed then
[22:58] <coreycb> vorlon: thanks!


[04:19] <mup> Bug #2015450 changed: maas-dhcpd not running due to missing dhcpd.conf <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015450>
[08:37] <mup> Bug #2023633 opened: UI filtering on Workloads does not trigger new websocket requests and does not add checkbox on filter entries <ui> <MAAS:New> <maas-ui:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023633>
[15:10] <mup> Bug #2023672 opened: [MAAS 3.4- RFE/Documentation] Domain DNS Delegation <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023672>


[00:53] <vychune> hey
[00:56] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[00:57] <vychune> how ya doing cyber
[01:00] <cyberanger> not too bad
[01:00] <vychune> good
[01:50] <chibihogoshino> looking for work sucks
[03:57] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: you can say that again
[05:44] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: no really, say it again
[05:44] <chibihogoshino> looking for work sucks
[05:44] <chibihogoshino> lol
[05:45] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: looking for something better myself, more stable hours
[05:45] <chibihogoshino> ah..
[05:45] <chibihogoshino> i still have nothing so anything would be good..
[05:46] <cyberanger> well, this stuff now is a tiny bit better than freelance
[05:47] <chibihogoshino> cool..
[05:47] <chibihogoshino> what is it
[05:47] <cyberanger> and not much different in hours or pay (when it's here, it's grand, dries up it's a drought)
[05:48] <cyberanger> Repair work, mostly some servers
[05:49] <cyberanger> another shop to work with
[05:52] <cyberanger> so some IT, but it's just a small few hours
[05:57] <chibihogoshino> oh
[05:59] <chibihogoshino> it work can be fun if its not repetitive
[05:59] <cyberanger> yeah, more to say I'm doing something than anything really
[06:00] <cyberanger> oh, I enjoy that, just a matter of it happening
[13:43] <Xpistos> what up
[14:03]  * cyberanger looks up, sees tax dollas glued to a celing
[14:05] <cyberanger> you'd think the DMV could have done a little better than coloured superglue
[14:06] <cyberanger> unfortunately not much of a joke
[14:15] <wrst> morning cyberanger dmv troubles? or is that a dumb question? :)
[14:17] <cyberanger> wrst: there is no such thing as a dumb question
[14:17] <cyberanger> long wait (took a friend for his license) is all
[14:18] <cyberanger> I can be done in under 5 minutes myself, just a change of address
[14:18] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger well it hink everyone has trouble at the dmv its just assumed :)
[14:18] <cyberanger> automated system and volia, new plastic
[14:21] <cyberanger> it seems limited to carry permits, new permits, driver tests
[14:21] <cyberanger> things needing a slow process
[14:21] <cyberanger> well, a hands on process
[14:22] <cyberanger> this is one system I would not privitize though
[14:23] <cyberanger> now I understand the flaws and loopholes, fees and time
[14:34] <wrst> are you using the online stuff?
[14:53] <cyberanger> mostly
[14:53] <cyberanger> self serv part is a kisok to it
[14:54] <cyberanger> just a new snapshot
[14:54] <cyberanger> and as I said, under 5 min.
[14:58] <wrst> ahh ok yes i used that when i had to have a new pic that was quick and painless
[14:58] <wrst> i usually renew online
[14:58] <cyberanger> I couldn't, corrupt passcode
[14:59] <cyberanger> from the renewal letter
[14:59] <wrst> that bites
[14:59] <cyberanger> and besides, might as well, TSA makes it a headache
[15:00] <cyberanger> next time won't be a big deal, passport will be kept up for than
[15:00] <cyberanger> dl will go stale
[15:00] <cyberanger> photo wise that is
[15:03] <cyberanger> seems I show my ID more for the lottery than driving (and I've bought 5 tickets in my life)
[15:03] <cyberanger> (2 at the same time)
[15:43] <Xpistos> anybody any good at editing xml?
[15:51] <orias> start with <asdfsad> end with </asdfdsa>
[15:51] <orias> :p
[17:16] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger, meeting tonight?
[17:24] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: cyberanger said he was at the last one :P
[18:12] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: yes
[18:13] <cyberanger> we cannot shove this one off time issues
[19:25] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: due to the natty release and netritious's resigination, I cannot afford to wait
[19:25] <cyberanger> well, it wouldn't be fair to the loco to wait, if we can
[19:25] <cyberanger> idk why turnout was low last week, wrst and myself
[19:26] <cyberanger> and I couldn't expect to be here that time (wound up being right)
[19:27] <cyberanger> I hope that's ok for more people this time
[19:32] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you familiar with any electrical components that operate at 260Hz? just off the top of your head?
[19:33] <cyberanger> off the top of my head, no, nothing stands out
[19:36] <pace_t_zulu> my understanding is that it's a soprano C ....
[19:36] <pace_t_zulu> but that doesn't help with this case.... looking for a source of electrical noise
[19:41] <cyberanger> some college stations used eletrical wire for campus AM radio
[19:41] <cyberanger> broadband over power line
[19:42] <cyberanger> something jumping across from phone or cable wire
[19:42] <cyberanger> annoying deal with interference, seems 9 times out of 10, usually where it is gets answered a little quicker
[19:45] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: does your utility use power line communications internally
[19:45] <chris4585> I have cable now!
[19:47] <cyberanger> w00t
[19:47] <cyberanger> w007
[19:52] <wrst> awesome chris4585!
[19:54] <chris4585> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252272232.png
[20:00] <wrst> nice chris4585
[20:01] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: +10
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: why didn't you do the test against the nashville server?
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> the nashville speedtest server is hosted by comcast
[20:02] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, I'm in FL
[20:02] <wrst> chris4585, pace_t_zulu, my speed at work :\ http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252283953.png
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: oh... that explains that
[20:03] <chris4585> wrst, its better than nothing
[20:03] <wrst> ha according to speedtest, not by much ;)
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: sorry to hear that...
[20:03] <wrst> chris4585: only about 10% better tahn nothing :)
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: my connection at work http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252285346.png
[20:04] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, I wish I had that
[20:04] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: holy, stinkin' piles of smokin crap????? how in the world
[20:04] <wrst> :)
[20:04] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i know, right?
[20:05] <cyberanger> chris4585: so your going to bittorrent every distro now ;-)
[20:05] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: if i had that i would have to redo my entire network so i could get the full speed via wireless :)
[20:05] <cyberanger> (actually, why stop there)
[20:05] <chris4585> of course!
[20:06] <pace_t_zulu> wrst ... i prefer to stay plugged in at work
[20:06] <wrst> i bet pace_t_zulu!
[23:24] <chris4585> whoo http://i.imgur.com/qHp04.jpg
[23:31] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: nice hustle...
[23:31] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: i didn't realize beta 2 is out...
[23:32] <wrst> chris4585, pace_t_zulu my home connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252548201.png
[23:32] <wrst> chris4585:  i didn't realize beta 2 was out either
[23:32] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i'll get y'all my home connection tonight
[23:33] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: at least i get a D- at home :\
[23:35] <pace_t_zulu> wrst my connection at home is pretty sick too
[23:36] <wrst> ha ha pace_t_zulu jealousy is setting in for me
[23:39] <chris4585> as much as I want to recover that encrypted data.. I think I'm going to say screw it and then update to beta 2
[23:40] <chris4585> wrst, that isn't too bad at least your download is decently fast
[23:40] <chris4585> I would praise hughesnet when it was 3mbps
[23:41] <chris4585> so yeah that last speedtest was on wireless, this is wired http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252535774.png
[23:42] <pace_t_zulu> i'll be back in a bit guys
[23:42] <chris4585> cya pace_t_zulu
[23:44] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: that's more like it ;)... i'll post a link to my home speedtest in a bit
[23:58] <wrst> i'm jealous of you too chris4585 :)


[10:01] <eddie1> i need help with my usb camera can enyone help me
[10:01] <eddie1> i need help with my usb camera can enyone help me
[10:01] <eddie1> i need help with my usb camera can enyone help me
[10:06] <persia> eddie1, The best support channel is #ubuntu.
[10:06] <persia> This channel is mostly for scheduled classes.
[10:06] <persia> Also, you don't need to repeat yourself quite so much.
[10:07] <eddie1> thanks
[23:37] <cprofitt> pleia2, you here?


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[14:52] <flocculant> infinity: any reason you know of why upgrading bionic to cosmic would decide to replace nouveau with nvidia? because it did ...
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[16:07] <jbicha> ugh, sssd isn't 3.0 (quilt)
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[18:13] <infinity> trying: gnutls28
[18:13] <infinity> skipped: gnutls28 (0, 3, 4)
[18:13] <infinity>     got: 14+0: a-2:a-2:a-2:i-1:p-2:s-5
[18:13] <infinity>     * amd64: mandos
[18:13] <infinity> xnox: ^ what'd you do?
[18:13] <infinity> Wait, no.  What on earth did the mandos maintainer do? :P
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[18:22] <infinity> flocculant: Do you have logs of the upgrade?  That doesn't sound like a thing that *could* happen.
[18:23] <infinity> flocculant: Unless you mean you had both installed before upgrade, but had manually selected nouveau, and that config change went away?
[18:23] <infinity> flocculant: Cause there's no way an upgrade would have gone and installed some non-free drivers for you.
[19:37] <xnox> infinity, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/gnutls28 and http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/gnutls28/cosmic/amd64 look as if we lost clound, and state as to what was successful or not?!
[19:37] <xnox> cause there is like only one run there from 13th of october
[19:37] <xnox> which cannot be true....
[19:39] <xnox> infinity, also mandos looks very odd
[19:40] <xnox> oh
[19:41] <xnox> infinity, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hSpmGBPbYT/
[19:42] <xnox> fun fact, ctype-OPENPGPG got removed in 3.6+ without changing api/abi. However, if one specifies it in the requested algos string, the whole thing fails with invalid request.
[19:43] <xnox> so i think we actually need to patch mandos to remove '[+-]CTYPE-OPENPGP' everywhere.
[19:43] <xnox> wait no
[19:43] <xnox> "SECURE256:!CTYPE-X.509:+CTYPE-OPENPGP:!RSA" -> means it really needs pre 3.6 gnutls28
[19:43] <xnox> no normal certs; only openpgp certs.
[19:43] <xnox> =(
[19:44] <xnox> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=879538
[19:45] <xnox> or like vendorise gnutls inside mandos...
[19:46] <xnox> feck
[19:48] <xnox> https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=deprecated-gnutls-3.6&user=ametzler%40bebt.de -> elinks is fixed for us.
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[21:36] <xnox> mwhudson, i guess i don't want to know what meth keywords are
[21:37] <mwhudson> xnox: https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/structures.html#c.PyMethodDef
[21:37] <xnox> yeah, was reading it.
[21:37] <xnox> it is short for method
[21:37] <xnox> clever.... i guess
[21:37] <mwhudson> xnox: the worst part is that i fixed this in git a year ago
[21:37] <mwhudson> it's a total violation of the c standard! but oh well
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[01:26] <marcosroriz> honk
[01:28] <marcosroriz> guys seriously
[01:28] <marcosroriz> why is syncing so buggy?
[01:29] <pieter_> exactly
[01:29] <marcosroriz> seriously :/
[01:29] <marcosroriz> :'(
[01:33] <marcosroriz> :'(
[01:34] <marcosroriz> also contacts doesnt work here
[01:37] <pieter_> dumped it today, I have been trying to get it to work for months now and it's just not reliable... haven't tried contacts but notes was a pain as well
[01:37] <marcosroriz> yeah
[01:37] <marcosroriz> notes doesnt work here
[01:37] <marcosroriz> contact doesnt work
[01:37] <marcosroriz> even syncing doesnt work
[01:37] <marcosroriz> browsing web ...
[01:37] <marcosroriz> so on
[01:38] <pieter_> back to Dropbox for me, we'll see what 10.04 brings
[01:39] <marcosroriz> yep yep
[01:39] <marcosroriz> I'm going to other service
[01:39] <marcosroriz> :3
[01:39] <marcosroriz> but I"ll try the next u1version
[01:39] <marcosroriz> I think that on the next one (10.04) they will get everything right
[01:39] <pieter_> let's hope
[01:39] <marcosroriz> ;)
[01:39] <marcosroriz> power of foss
[01:40] <leonel2> how can I stop the ubuntusync daemon  on lucid ? used  ubuntuone-preferences to disconnect  and  keeps connecting from time to time  I'd like to connect to ubuntuone when I need to connect and not beeing connected all the time
[01:42] <pieter_> goodnight
[01:42] <marcosroriz> the main problem is that u1 just updates when it wants
[01:43] <marcosroriz> I wonder if theres like a cli command to force update
[01:44] <leonel2> marcosroriz: it feels when I used windows when windows was doing the things he wanted when he wanted ...  slowing things down
[01:44] <leonel2> and this happens with my bandwidth...
[01:44] <leonel2> I'd like to sync when I know I need to sync
[01:45] <leonel2> so the only way to do is to block the ip address on the firewall ..
[01:45] <leonel2> too bad..
[01:45] <leonel2> this does not happen with karmic ..
[01:49] <marcosroriz> yeah
[01:49] <marcosroriz> updated took 40 min here
[01:49] <marcosroriz> and didnt update everything
[01:49] <marcosroriz> some stuff isnt being updated
[01:49] <marcosroriz> and when I change a file on my netbook for example he dont update
[01:50] <marcosroriz> =/
[02:47] <marcosroriz> I give up
[02:47] <marcosroriz> :/
[02:47] <CBrookins1> Something up with the ubuntu one web end?
[02:48] <marcosroriz> yeah
[02:48] <marcosroriz> everything just doesnt work
[02:48] <marcosroriz> :/
[02:48] <marcosroriz> brb
[02:48] <CBrookins1> hm, no word on what is going on?
[03:07] <remy_f> hi, I just start using the application on iphone an I had one question. What is the username ? is it some sort of login or is it the email adress ? thanks
[09:08] <diverse_izzue> honk
[09:45] <rye> greetings, humans!
[10:07] <xdatap> morning
[10:08] <xdatap> guys, I'm trying to test contacts sync but I got a "504 Gateway Time-out" after selecting Manufacturers on "my phone" web page
[10:09] <xdatap> ping beuno ^^
[10:12] <migger> honk
[10:12] <rye> migger, hi
[10:12] <migger> rye: hi
[10:14] <migger> I seem to have some general problems connecting and sync'ing with Ubuntu One... Anyone who can point me to an easily understandable faq or similar?
[10:15] <rye> migger, hm, could you please describe the issue in more details, i.e. what distribution are you running, what package version is installed for ubuntuone-client, and whether contacts are syncing?
[10:16] <truijllo> hi guys
[10:16] <migger> rye, thx - I will gather some more info ;(
[10:16] <migger> ;)
[10:21] <truijllo> Does anybody know why on iPhone the Ubuntu one application doesn't work ?
[10:36] <diverse_izzue> honk
[10:37] <rye> diverse_izzue, honk-reply
[10:37] <diverse_izzue> hi rye
[10:37] <diverse_izzue> i need some help. i updated from karmic to lucid yesterday
[10:38] <diverse_izzue> then after logging in i noticed that my ubuntuone-syncd was causing very high HD activity. iotop revealed that it was reading 20MB/s for many minutes
[10:38] <diverse_izzue> i think it's convinced that i want to have my entire pictures folder synched to U1, but i don't
[10:38] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please check how many files have you got in metadata dir?
[10:38] <diverse_izzue> rye, where is that dir?
[10:38] <rye> diverse_izzue, find -type f ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> rye, ~17000
[10:42] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, what does u1sdtool --list-folders say (looking up the command now to be 100% sure)
[10:45] <diverse_izzue> rye, so far doesn't say much, but starts the syncdaemon which now is going crazy
[10:45] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, could you please navigate to the web interface and see whether you have any items in User Designated Folders ?
[10:46] <diverse_izzue> rye, i do, part of my pictures folder is there
[10:46] <diverse_izzue> i did at some point make a SUB folder of my pictures folder be synced, but not the whole folder
[10:46] <diverse_izzue> id=c040ec71-d7ad-40cd-91a6-89e67668a35f subscribed=True path=/home/hunzikea/Pictures
[10:47] <rye> diverse_izzue, aha, so right now it synces compelte Pictures folder, and loads metadata for it
[10:47] <truijllo> honk
[10:47] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes. but right-clicking on pictures and saying "stop syncing to u1" didn't have an effect
[10:47] <rye> diverse_izzue, I believe the correct way is to unsubscribe Pictures and resubscribe the subdir
[10:47] <rye> hmmm
[10:47] <rye> truijllo, hi
[10:47] <rye> diverse_izzue, trying to reproduce this...
[10:48] <truijllo> hi rye, do you know why on iPhone the Ubuntu one application doesn't work ?
[10:48] <rye> beuno, here?
[10:50] <truijllo> maybe is busy :)
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> rye, unsubscribing from folder via e1sdtool caused a crash
[10:58] <rye> diverse_izzue, crash of what kind?
[10:58] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please pastebin it/
[10:58] <rye> ?
[10:59] <diverse_izzue> course, http://paste.ubuntu.com/409938/
[10:59] <diverse_izzue> rye ^
[10:59] <rye> diverse_izzue, and I believe syncdaemon is still causing high cpu/disk usage, right?
[11:00] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes
[11:00] <diverse_izzue> rye, it usually calms down after some 5 minutes when it's done with whatever it's been doing
[11:01] <rye> diverse_izzue, when it calms down it starts performing metadata query, i.e. ask the server about the state of the things on its side and compare it to the local state
[11:04] <rye> diverse_izzue, but in order to unsubscribe it should finish the metadata loading phase which lasts for quite some time due to a way it is handled and I am constantly poking the developers to make it CPU and hard drive friendly
[11:08] <diverse_izzue> rye, how can it tell it's over?
[11:08] <rye> diverse_izzue, for now - could you please ping me once it stops eating the cpu and pastebin the output of u1sdtool --waiting-meta - that's the queue of all operations that it needs to perform
[11:08] <diverse_izzue> rye, it's done eating
[11:08] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, could you please pastebin the waiting-meta?
[11:09] <diverse_izzue> rye, http://paste.ubuntu.com/409942/
[11:10] <rye> hm
[11:10] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/utf8-filename-check.py as
[11:10] <rye> diverse_izzue, utf8-filename-check.py ~/Pictures
[11:11] <diverse_izzue> you don't have any filenames with broken names
[11:13] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok,  utf8-filename-check.py ~/Ubuntu\ One
[11:13] <diverse_izzue> rye, same
[11:13] <rye> diverse_izzue, apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client ?
[11:14] <diverse_izzue> 1.1.91-0ubuntu1
[11:28] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please re-run u1sdtool --waiting-meta ?
[11:38] <rye> duanedesign, are you able to run lxc with Lucid ?
[11:45] <migger> what is the current U1 client version?
[11:45] <migger> Synaptic gives me 1.0.3
[11:55] <rye> migger, 1.0.3 is the latest "stable" build for karmic
[12:04] <migger> rye, thx
[12:24] <diverse_izzue> rye, i did, the result is the same
[12:26] <rye> diverse_izzue, does --list-folders return only one line?
[12:26] <rye> i.e. Pictures?
[12:26] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes, and it's the pictures folder
[12:27] <diverse_izzue> oh but it doesn't say subscribed=True anymore
[12:27] <diverse_izzue> id=c040ec71-d7ad-40cd-91a6-89e67668a35f subscribed= path=/home/hunzikea/Pictures
[12:27] <rye> diverse_izzue, so it is unsubscribed now... :-/
[12:30] <diverse_izzue> rye, so what's the bottom line? the actual bug is that the entire pictures folder got subscribed i guess
[12:30] <diverse_izzue> and then of course the crashes from u1sdtool
[12:32] <rye> diverse_izzue, i am now checking what could cause the crash, but could you please check whether there is something in u1sdtool --waiting-content
[12:33] <diverse_izzue> rye, there's a lot, content from the pictures folder marked for operation='upload'
[12:34] <rye> diverse_izzue, great, so it is now going to upload the files... could you please check whether the UDF is on the web ui?
[12:35] <diverse_izzue> rye, the pictures folder is shown on the web ui
[12:48] <duanedesign> rye: I have not tried yet with Lucid (LXC)
[12:49] <rye> duanedesign, i believe my instance is starting but it dies immediately. I tried to do some serious work with UML but it looks like it is good only for testing, not production speed
[12:49] <rye> duanedesign, thanks!
[12:56] <duanedesign> rye: here is a blog post by a good friend of mine over at the Beginners Team http://ln-s.net/5_9_
[12:56] <rye> duanedesign, yup, reading that,
[12:56] <rye> thanks
[12:57] <duanedesign> :)
[13:00] <duanedesign> rye: i helped a user over the weekend. http://paste.ubuntu.com/409311/ what is line 255 telling us?
[13:01] <rye> duanedesign, hm, PROTOCOL_ERROR during unlink... but that is during the server interaction.. hmmm
[13:03] <duanedesign> i thought it came at a weird time.
[13:03] <duanedesign> His issue was that only 30 of his 300 files were uploading
[13:03] <duanedesign> rye: but what is 'unlink'
[13:04] <rye> duanedesign, remove
[13:04] <duanedesign> ok
[13:04] <rye> duanedesign, file is marked as removed
[13:11] <rachaelb> hi de hi peeps
[13:11] <rachaelb> joshuahoover : are there problems with the funambol / syncml server?
[13:12] <rachaelb> i thought id give it  a whizz on my bberry 9700
[13:12] <rachaelb> synced fine yesterday :) but now just gives "generic error"
[13:12] <rachaelb> also does the choice of funambol mean we're going to get synced calendars, notes & to-dos at some point in the future?
[13:13] <kklimonda|G1> it would make sense
[13:14] <rachaelb> thats what i'm hoping... i'll be able to ditch zimbra then
[13:14] <rachaelb> but.... any ideas on this "generic error" i'm getting????
[13:14] <rachaelb> ive tried reinstalling the client and its not made any difference
[13:15] <rachaelb> is it just me? or are other people having the same problems?
[13:15] <kklimonda|G1> no idea
[13:16] <rye> rachaelb, checking with devs...
[13:16] <rachaelb> thanks rye
[13:16] <rye> rachaelb, in my case my phone reports that there is authentication error
[13:16] <rachaelb> im just getting "generic error" whatever that means lol... could be authentication, but i cant find the logs in the blackberry file system :(
[13:17] <rachaelb> it *did* work fine yesterday, and then stopped about 11pm UTC
[13:24] <rye> rachaelb, ok, passed the info to beuno
[13:24] <rachaelb> rye aha?
[13:24] <rachaelb> is there any more info i can provide?
[13:24] <rye> https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/ times out, ...
[13:24] <rye> hmm
[13:25] <beuno> rye, yes, that is the known problem  :)
[13:25] <rachaelb> hi bueno
[13:25] <beuno> edge works
[13:25] <rachaelb> so its not me then?
[13:25] <beuno> hi rachaelb
[13:25] <rye> and since my Motorolla does not write logs of ANY kind, my Authentication Failed message can be anything
[13:25] <beuno> rachaelb, what's your phone sync username?
[13:26] <rachaelb> errrr... hold on one second.....
[13:26] <rachaelb> its 29067318
[13:29] <rachaelb> cardinalfang :)
[13:30] <beuno> rachaelb, I found your sync in the log
[13:31] <beuno> with errors  :)
[13:31] <rachaelb> oh dear :(
[13:31] <rachaelb> so whats the problem? thee or me????
[13:31] <beuno> rachaelb, us
[13:31] <rachaelb> :-D
[13:31] <rachaelb> i always hate coming into a chat to say something isnt working in case im just being really, really dumb lol
[13:32] <rachaelb> <<<< not blonde btw, but i have my moments :p
[13:33] <beuno> heh
[13:33] <beuno> so, I will chase this
[13:33] <rachaelb> thanks beuno! do you want me to file anything on launchpad?
[13:34] <beuno> no need, yes please, so I have a way of asking you for more information  :)
[13:34] <rachaelb> ok... no probs... also one *minor* point... on the list of phones to choose from, the blackberry 9700 isnt listed - but it works (new version of the listed blackberry bold 9000)
[13:35] <rachaelb> what do you want me to file it under on launchpad? ubuntone?
[13:35] <beuno> rachaelb, ubuntuone-servers
[13:36] <beuno> and let me know what the bug # is, I'll add more information to it
[13:36] <rachaelb> ok will do it now
[13:36] <rachaelb> back in a moment
[13:39] <rachaelb> beuno its bug 556461
[13:40] <beuno> rachaelb, thank you!  I think we found the proble, code is being written
[13:40] <rachaelb> fabulous :)
[13:40] <rachaelb> thank you for your time.
[13:40] <rachaelb> ive made the bug public btw
[13:41] <rachaelb> thanks for everything.... bye y'all
[13:53] <iphoneUserFrustr> hias
[13:54] <iphoneUserFrustr> I can't login over the iphone with the iphone app. Is there somewhere a solution in the net that I haven't found? Or is it a known bug ?
[13:55] <adiroiban> rodrigo_: hi. Any idea why "make test" might fail for couchdb-glib ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/410020/
[13:55] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, can you run it under gdb, plese?
[13:55] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, gdb tests/.libs/test-couchdb-glib
[13:56] <adiroiban> also, if I try to get a CouchdbStructField and they unref it
[13:56] <adiroiban> i get a segfault
[13:56] <soomin> is there anyway of importing contacts?
[13:57] <rodrigo_> ugh, I get it also
[13:57] <adiroiban> rodrigo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/410021/
[13:57] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, using git master, right?
[13:58] <adiroiban> rodrigo_: yes... well, using bzr revno 175 ... but i think this is git master
[13:59] <adiroiban> lp:couchdb-glib
[13:59] <rodrigo_> ok, I'm getting it also, looking
[14:04] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, ok, I think it's because of the NULL argument to couchdb_session_new
[14:04] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, I think we need to default to http://localhost:5984 (system couchdb)
[14:06] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, yes, that's it
[14:07] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, pushed to git master, please try again
[14:08] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, it will try to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:5984 if the arg to couchdb_session_new is NULL
[14:33] <adiroiban> rodrigo_: back. updated. the test is still failing http://paste.ubuntu.com/410041/
[14:34] <datakid> I take it I'm not the only one getting auth errors on the iphone app?
[15:02] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, now it aborts because the test fails, unless you have the system wide couchdb running
[15:02] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, run it under gdb to be sure, please
[15:03] <cypherbios> hey beuno, I hope you are not being flooded by the same kind of question I am going to ask, because it sounds really stupid [this question I have]
[15:04] <cypherbios> beuno: to use this new contact sync feature, I would login using my launchpad/Ubuntu One account, isn't that right?
[15:04] <beuno> cypherbios, hi!
[15:05] <beuno> cypherbios, no, you need to generate a user/pass in: https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/
[15:05] <beuno> which, may timeout as we're currently experiencing some heavy load  :)
[15:05] <cypherbios> beuno: ohh, that explains a lot :)
[15:06] <cypherbios> beuno: sorry, but is that mentioned somewhere else and I skipped?
[15:06] <cypherbios> I must have missed that part
[15:06] <beuno> cypherbios, it should have been, but, where did you read about it?
[15:06] <beuno> :)
[15:06] <beuno> maybe our docs are wrong
[15:07] <cypherbios> beuno: on the Fridge and on the Wiki (on iTunes app description too)
[15:08] <cypherbios> beuno: I think it would be a good idea to add this link you gave me right into this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/FAQ
[15:09] <beuno> cypherbios, I will
[15:09] <beuno> did you read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/
[15:10] <cypherbios> beuno: no. not really
[15:10] <cypherbios> beuno: I see where I got it wrong now :)
[15:11] <cypherbios> beuno: thank you very much, I really appreciate that.
[15:11] <beuno> cypherbios, you're very welcome, and thanks for this feedback, it's veru useful
[15:12] <beuno> cypherbios, also, let me know how it goes, and if you can, fill in the test case  :)
[15:13] <cypherbios> beuno: I will do that for sure!
[15:14] <cypherbios> beuno: as soon as I get to create my account, of course :) I guess the Planet effect is overloading your servers right now
[15:15] <beuno> cypherbios, it is, I'm sorry about that. We're trying to get it back on it's feet
[15:17] <cypherbios> beuno: that is OK, as a sysadmin, I think I understand that. I will check back later today
[15:18] <beuno> cypherbios, thanks!
[15:29] <Korcia> hi everybody, I not able to connect to ubuntuone in my lucid desktop, I have no token in the ring
[15:43] <duanedesign> Korcia: opening Me Menu > Ubuntu One does not prompt you to add your computer?
[15:43] <Korcia> no
[15:43] <Korcia> I have not found any bug in launchpad with this situation
[15:44] <duanedesign> Korcia: if you go to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/  and your computer is still listed, select it and choose remove
[15:45] <Korcia> I have done it already
[15:47] <duanedesign> Korcia: ok
[15:49] <duanedesign> Korcia: you can force it to authorize with: u1sync --authorize
[15:53] <Korcia> I am going to try
[15:59] <Korcia> duanedesign: I get a gnomekeyring.IOError
[16:01] <duanedesign> hmmm. ok
[16:06] <duanedesign> rye: ping^^
[16:09] <rye> Korcia, are you able to run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/desktopcouch-futon.py ?
[16:11] <Korcia> I'm going to check, I just add log_level = DEBUG in syncdaemon.conf so I can get more information
[16:11] <rye> Korcia, if ioerror happens with keyring that script would fail as well
[16:13] <Korcia> It worked desktopcouch, I can see couchDB
[16:15] <Korcia> what should I do in CouchDB, ?
[16:25] <mattgriffin> beuno: the updated description is now live in the App Store. it contains URLs for testing information.
[16:26] <beuno> mattgriffin, rock. Will keep my eye on the logs, thanks
[16:26] <mattgriffin> beuno: you're welcome :)
[16:34] <Korcia> I get this line in syncdaemon,log
[16:34] <Korcia> ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'READY'  (queues WORKING_ON_BOTH  connection 'Not User Not Network')>; queues: metadata: 1; content: 1; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=85 miss=2)
[16:35] <nessita> Korcia: that's correct
[16:36] <nessita> Korcia: you need to explicitely request to connect now
[16:36] <nessita> Korcia: from System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One Preferences -> second tab named Devices -> Connect
[16:37] <Korcia> but in devices my pc is identified as <LOCAL MACHINE>
[16:38] <nessita> dobey: is that correct ^?
[16:40] <nessita> Korcia: do you have the Connect button enabled?
[16:41] <Korcia> I did, now I don't 'cause I click on it
[16:42] <Korcia> incredible via web I am able to upload files to my ubuntuone
[16:45] <Korcia> ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - INFO - Not enough space for upload 412 bytes (available: None)
[16:46] <nessita> Korcia: :-/
[16:48] <Korcia> this is really strange I have two more pcs, one with karmic and another one with lucid and ubuntuone works
[16:49] <Korcia> in this pc I did a fresh installation with lucid beta 1
[16:54] <soren> How long does it usually take before stuff gets from the music store onto my Ubuntu One storage? First time I did it, it started almost immediately and was done after (I'm guessing) 20 minutes. This time, it's been half an hour and it hasn't started yet.
[16:55] <duanedesign> Korcia: local machine means you have removed all your devices
[16:56] <soren> Hmm... Although the amount of storage listed on the ubuntu one web interface has gone up by > 100 MB. So maybe I just need to kick the sync daemon?
[16:56] <duanedesign> Korcia: but you still have a token.
[16:57] <soren> Hmm... No, it has already created the directories, so it the communication is up.
[16:58] <Korcia> there is no device in this machine because this is a new installation, but I have never been abled to connect to ubuntuone
[16:59] <Korcia> I can't see any ubuntuone token in the keyring
[16:59] <duanedesign> Korcia: when you go to  Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys and click the arrow next to password:Default there is no
[17:00] <Korcia> there are the token for my imaps accounts another one for gwibber anther one for the calendar and tow Desktop Couch user auth
[17:00] <duanedesign> soren: it does the directories first then the music. So it is probablly working on it, just a bit slow
[17:01] <Korcia> two Desktop Couch user auth
[17:01] <duanedesign> Korcia: yeah thats right. Those are fine
[17:01] <soren> duanedesign: Yes, I figured that much :)
[17:01] <duanedesign> soren: he he
[17:02] <soren> duanedesign: I'm just curious how long to expect it to take. If I know it'll take a few hours, that's better than not knowing.
[17:02] <duanedesign> I am always good at stating the obvious
[17:04] <Korcia> one thing, if I click on Manage account in the Ubuntu One preferences, it goes directly to my ubuntuone account, I mean, I don't need to enter my user neither passw
[17:05] <Korcia> but the name of the account in ubuntu one preferences is unkown, email is unknown and current plan unknown
[17:06] <Korcia> and status disconnected even though the connect button is greyed
[17:11] <soren> Yay, there it goes.
[17:15] <duanedesign> soren: ahh good
[18:01] <dobey> nessita: depennds on definition of 'now' i guess
[18:06] <adiroiban>  /n
[18:14] <Korcia> hi again
[18:15] <Korcia> well, now I can connect to ubuntuone but it is sync forever
[18:15] <Korcia> in fact it doesn't sync
[18:19] <adiroiban> rodrigo_: hi. do you have time to review this branch or should I find another reviewer? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adiroiban/couchdb-glib/couchdb-test-setup/+merge/22886
[18:19] <pgraner> rye: ping
[18:20] <rye> pgraner, pong
[18:20] <pgraner> rye: hey I finally got U1 working, it took blowing my $HOME dir away and re-setting up U1
[18:20] <rye> pgraner, i now do pretty much the same
[18:21] <Korcia> well, finally it's sync but it is incredibly slow, I have just 8 MB to sync
[18:21] <pgraner> rye: the only issue I have now is that it takes 3+ hours to sync a few hundred kb
[18:23] <rodrigo_> adiroiban, reviewing it
[18:23] <pgraner> rye: also can you tell me how a rename of a file on the client works? It seems that it deletes it form the server then schedules a new upload to the server?
[18:24] <rye> pgraner, in case syncdaemon is running during the rename it receives rename event, in case it was renamed when syncdaemon was not running then yes, it does what you said
[18:24] <rye> nessita, right  ^ ?
[18:24] <pgraner> rye: thats not the behavior I'm observing
[18:25] <nessita> rye: I'm on the phone
[18:25] <nessita> onesec
[18:35] <sdk__> Heyas folks.  I'm trying to sync my wife's iphone contacts w/ https://synccml.one.ubuntu.com using the email addy I'd used to sign up w/ ubuntuone as username.  The log is "Error in preparing sync: client not authenticated"  Google doesn't offer any real help, so does anyone have suggestions?
[18:35] <jblount> sdk__: You'll need to use the credentials you get after adding your phone here: https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/
[18:35] <sdk__> Sorry for the n00b question here, but the Ubuntu faqs also leave somethign to be desired.
[18:36] <sdk__> AHAH!  Thanks!
[18:36] <jblount> sdk__: It's confusing as is, sorry about that. We'll get some clearer interface up shortly :)
[18:36] <sdk__> No worries man, for sure.. hence teh term 'alpha', right?
[18:36] <jblount> sdk__: :D
[18:39] <sdk__> I've been running Deb unstable for 12 years, I think I can handle some flakiness.  ;)  Any way I can help btw?  I saw the notice for no bug reports, makes sense.. how about submissions for the sorts of questions I'm asking.  Is there a wiki I can add to?
[18:39] <beuno> sdk__, hi
[18:39] <beuno> quick question
[18:39] <beuno> how did you find out about the phone sync service
[18:39] <beuno> we have: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/
[18:39] <beuno> which explains it all
[18:40] <beuno> so we're trying to figure out where people came from, to see what we missed
[18:40] <beuno> also, the creation og new users seems to be lagged, so it may be close to unusable at the moment  :)
[18:40] <sdk__> beuno: Slashdot.
[18:41] <beuno> sdk__, among many others, yes
[18:42] <sdk__> brb, have to go to mtg.. 20 mins.
[18:42] <beuno> sdk__, thanks
[18:50] <sdk__> back.  bigboss decided she wanted to have extended lunch.  :)
[18:51] <sdk__> Heh, you guys are getting hammered, I take it?
[18:55] <duanedesign> sdk__: must be nice (extended lunch :P)
[18:56] <sdk__> duanedesign: Heh, yeah.  It's a beautiful afternoon here (phila) and "a lunch meeting ran overtime"
[19:03] <duanedesign> sdk__: same here (nice day) hard to stay indoors
[19:04] <pcapeluto> Hello, I have a question about deploying Ubuntu on Ubuntu Sever One, you can sync from console?
[19:05] <pcapeluto> Sory, i translate with google translate lolol
[19:10] <duanedesign> pcapeluto: as far as i know We do not have a complete command line utility that will allow you to use Ubuntu One headless. We plan on eventually providing this but do not have that now.
[19:14] <pcapeluto> Well, I thought so, had looked everywhere but I had no answers, thank you very much, I read on a blog that was working in a client version of Windows, what stage is this development?
[19:45] <amblin> I have a purchase from the music store that has never downloaded, remains in "transferring to ubuntu one storage", 7digital via the help link, isn't helping, how to retrieve this purchase?
[19:49] <duanedesign> amblin: it has not shown up in your online storage yet? How long has it been?
[19:49] <amblin> days
[19:50] <amblin> part of a larger purchase, the rest of the tracks are downloaded
[19:50] <duanedesign> amblin: :( ugh
[19:51] <amblin> 7digital's automated response is, "redownload from your locker" umm
[19:51] <duanedesign> bdmurray was just saying something similar over in #u1msbeta
[19:55] <duanedesign> rye: problems with the U1MS where or who should the user see about help. This is from the store to online storage, not storage to desktop
[20:07] <rye> duanedesign, we need rodrigo/aquarious to get more info
[20:18] <rockstar> statik, ping
[20:30] <DexterF> hi
[20:31] <DexterF> honk
[20:31] <DexterF> cleint synced but in the web interface I don't see it
[20:32] <DexterF> (karmic, kde3 from pearsoncomputing)
[20:33] <rye> DexterF, ok, the file exists locally but not on the web ui, right? could you please run u1sdtool --info=$full_path_to_the_file
[20:34] <rye> DexterF, and post the output to !pastebin
[20:34] <DexterF> http://pastebin.ca/1857304
[20:34] <DexterF> ^rye
[20:35] <rye> DexterF, it looks like the file has actually synced. What browser are you using to access web ui?
[20:36] <DexterF> opera 10
[20:37] <DexterF> lemme try FF
[20:38] <rye> DexterF, bug #453418 and the real issue with that bug is that the actual reason of failure is not known - no errors, opera silently does nothing :(
[20:38] <DexterF> :|
[20:38] <DexterF> confirmed. FF displays them.
[20:44] <DexterF> think I'll drop the opera folsk a line on this
[20:44] <DexterF> *folks even
[21:03] <ekilfoil> Does anyone know if there are plans to support publishing free podcasts (or at least podcast feeds) via Ubuntu One or is it strictly for music?
[21:13] <kklimonda> really, 504 timeouts? you are running u1 on old P3s connected though adsl? :P
[21:14] <kklimonda> and just when I was going to try contact syncing :/
[21:17] <beuno> slashdot makes it feel like P3s, yes
[21:19] <soren> So, one thing that to me seems completely absent from all this talk about phone syncing is... How do I do it? Somewhere it says something about "after you've added you phone to the service"... but how do I do that?
[21:19] <soren> Does it support Android phones?
[21:20] <beuno> soren, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/
[21:21] <beuno> you go to /phones
[21:21] <beuno> which is down atm
[21:21] <soren> A ha!
[21:21] <beuno> :)
[21:21]  * soren has been clicking around, but never reached that page.
[21:22] <bac> beuno: to clarify my problem from yesterday, the failure occurs syncing thunderbird 3 not syncing the iPhone
[21:23] <beuno> bac, that's great news, because the tb plugin has great logs
[21:23] <bac> beuno: really?  where are they?
[21:24] <beuno> bac, Tools > Funambol sync > Tools > Logging > Log > View log
[21:24] <beuno> you can set it to "debug" if you're extra nice
[21:36] <bac> beuno: log file with debugging doesn't show anything unusual
[21:37] <beuno> bac, just blows up?  or just doesn't do what you expect it to?
[21:37] <bac> beuno: after 10 seconds or so, tbird goes sickly grey and then a few seconds later crashes
[21:38] <beuno> bac, ah, right
[21:38] <beuno> so, the funambol plugin for tb3 is still pretty in development
[21:39] <bac> beuno: ok.  i reported the crash yesterday via apport and it is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/555909
[21:39] <bac> hmm, no that's not it
[21:40] <bac> no, that's the right bug, but it is private
[21:40] <beuno> bac, it's more likely a bug in the extension
[22:03] <monkey_dust> hi all - i am unable to launch ubuntu-one - all packages are installed - Failed to execute child process "ubuntuone-client-applet" (No such file or directory) - hints & tips anyone?
[22:04] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: how are you trying to launch ubuntu one?
[22:37] <monkey_dust> joshuahoover, the easy way, Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One
[22:37] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: and you see that error?
[22:37] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: did you recently update?
[22:38] <monkey_dust> i update regularly
[22:38] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: what version of ubuntu?
[22:38] <monkey_dust> 10.04, unstable
[22:39] <monkey_dust> joshuahoover, can that be the problem?
[22:40] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: no, that shouldn't be a problem...the error you're getting is one that i would expect a user of jaunty or karmic to get when they upgrade to the latest ppa client which replaces ubuntuone-client-applet
[22:40] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: can you try the following on a command line: killall ubuntuone-client-applet ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[22:41] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: then try to open system->preferences->ubuntu one and let me know what happens
[22:41] <monkey_dust> joshuahoover, i prefer not to use ppa's, i read on this very support channel, that ppa's can be used to put malware on a user's machine
[22:41] <monkey_dust> joshuahoover, it shows the preferences
[22:42] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: ok, if you click on the devices tab, can do you have the option to click the "connect" button there?
[22:42] <monkey_dust> i mean: ubuntu one preferences
[22:43] <monkey_dust> joshuahoover, there's no connect button, it shows two /usr/lib/python errors
[22:45] <monkey_dust> have to go, tnx for the help tho :)
[22:45] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: ok, close the preferences, and then delete the ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf file
[22:45] <joshuahoover> monkey_dust: once you do that, you'll likely need to run: killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon


[06:25] <doug16k> lol @ that paste from earlier -> https://pastebin.com/GVni4J9u  (4.29 megawatts eh?)
[06:27] <doug16k> SI units are hard apparently
[06:32] <mybalzitch> I wish my psu reported to sensors
[06:34] <doug16k> I can see per core and package wattage on my cpu: https://gist.github.com/doug65536/e4c371b0e75f073bea8e3b6ccd6ed189
[06:35] <doug16k> you sure that isn't the RAPL reading from the cpu in his paste?
[06:35] <doug16k> ^ 3950X btw
[06:35] <mybalzitch> what args are you using
[06:35] <doug16k> none
[06:35] <mybalzitch> also nice chip
[06:35] <doug16k> just sudo turbostat
[06:36] <doug16k> my 2700X didn't have it. the joule counter thing is new in zen 2
[06:37] <doug16k> the cores are ~5 watts pegged at around 4.3GHz-4.7GHz
[06:42] <doug16k> a friend of mine with a 24 core xeon said his 3950X beats it by a significant margin in compilation workloads
[06:43] <doug16k> two socket 12 core I think
[06:43] <mybalzitch> yeah I have a 2 socket 8 core, and a 3950x blows me out of the water
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[15:07] <uzee> Hi, has anything changed on the Ubuntu preseed installation? I've using the same netboot image and a preseed file for Ubuntu 18 but for some reason its failing today and I see a message "mirror does not have any suite symlinks"
[15:08] <uzee> I tried the solution suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choose-mirror/+bug/600789 and changed 'mirror' to 'choose-mirror' in the preseed file but still failing
[15:08] <uzee>  the netboot image is 18.04, the preseed file does not specify the release, the mirror lines just have ubuntu
[15:08] <uzee> After about 20-25 minutes I also see a warning in the ALt+F4 console saying: mirror does not support the specified release (bionic)
[16:45] <isostatic> Just built from my normal iso, preseed file contains
[16:45] <isostatic> d-i mirror/country string manual
[16:45] <isostatic> d-i mirror/http/hostname string gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:45] <isostatic> d-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu
[16:45] <isostatic> d-i mirror/http/proxy string
[16:45] <isostatic> That worked fine
[17:35] <isostatic> I've used preseed/debian-installer to build new machines (via pxe/iso/syslinux) for a decade or so. That method is vanishing in 20.04 and being replaced by subiquity. Is there any instructions on how to make automated installs? The subiquity github readme seems to be about changing the installer gui (and still seems rather buggy), but I just want to automatically answer a bunch of the questions
[17:47] <tomreyn> isostatic: here'sa (non-official) volunteer response: https://community.ubuntu.com has, in the server section, two threads (one current, another a bit older), which disucss properties of the implementation that's currently under development, including links to documentation.
[17:47] <tomreyn> i.e. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/server-installer-plans-for-20-04-lts/13631 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-review-design-for-automated-server-installs/11923
[17:50] <isostatic> Aye, I saw those, and it all sounds fine - I'm not averse to using something new as I'm sure there are use cases where it's far better, I was just looking for the instructions for the beta so I can be prepared ahead of April
[17:51] <isostatic> (I'm surprised it hadn't debuted in 19.10 as it's a fairly major change)
[18:25] <tomreyn> isostatic: i had also expected a major change like this to go into 19.10, but i think the people in question were working on other things at the time, and canonical wants to have a single server installer for 20.04 so it probably needs to happen now. so you spotted this as well? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls#The_format_of_an_autoinstall_file
[18:27] <tomreyn> it says "This document is entirely a description of something that does not yet exist" on top, but i'm not sure that's actually still so, which the "Server installer plans for 20.04 LTS" thread seems to hint at.
[18:28] <smoser> bryce or rbasak https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/usd-importer/+git/usd-importer/+merge/378282
[18:28] <smoser> and congrats on a release.
[18:28] <bryce> smoser, thanks
[18:32] <tomreyn> isostatic: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/subiquity/pull/625
[18:34] <tomreyn> (looks like the code was lacking a review - which it just got today)
[19:53] <sdeziel> anyone knows which kernel is supposed to make it in 20.04? I see 5.4 is in ATM but 5.6 should be released at most in early April and I'd like to have it in a LTS for the mainline Wireguard support ;)
[19:58] <powersj> sdeziel, kernel freeze is April 9 so I believe 5.4 is the final choice.
[20:01] <isostatic> tomreyn: yes, I was hoping something might be in some form publically available by now, I guess there's a few months to go though
[20:02] <sdeziel> powersj: thx
[20:18] <sarnold> sdeziel: I understand that zx2c4 is trying to provide a dkms module for us for 5.4
[20:19] <sdeziel> sarnold: as in not requiring the wireguard-ppa ?
[20:20] <sarnold> sdeziel: I believe that's the intentino, yes
[20:20] <sdeziel> sarnold: cool. I then wonder why DKMS is involved at all. Why no do like what's done for ZFS modules?
[20:21] <sarnold> sdeziel: my understanding gets fuzzy but it might work out very similar to zfs in practice
[20:21] <sdeziel> sarnold: very nice, looking forward to get my hands on this! Thanks!
[20:21] <sarnold> sdeziel: yeah I want to give it a shot too, but .. am lazy.
[20:22] <sarnold> sdeziel: (which is how my zfs experience went; I wanted to try it but waited until it was in an ubuntu kernel build..)
[20:23] <sdeziel> hehe, I had the opportunity to try the Wireguard PPA for a project. I love it except for the DKMS part. Wireguard is simple and elegant
[20:23] <sdeziel> having systemd support built-in Bionic made that relatively painless
[20:25] <sarnold> nice
[20:25] <sarnold> I'm still worried about what'll happen when it comes time to deploy new algorithms
[20:25] <sarnold> because there's always a time when new algorithms need to be deployed
[20:27] <sdeziel> yeah, that's the main concern I'm hearing from others
[21:11] <octav1a> Hey, does anyone know if there is any service that is able to store versioned binary files? (without duplicating them fully if there are only small differences)
[21:15] <teward> octav1a: you're basically looking for Version Control Systems (git, etc.) but they won't keep the deltas in 'small diffs' as much especially for binary (blob) data files.
[21:15] <octav1a> yes, I have tried git but I don't really need something that featurefull.
[21:16] <octav1a> Also as you say it relies more heavily on snapshots
[21:16] <octav1a> I guess might have to end up starting a new project for something like this lol
[21:19] <sarnold> octav1a: hopefully helpful to you https://github.com/google/open-vcdiff http://xdelta.org/
[21:22] <octav1a> sarnold: that looks like a nice start ; not sure how best to compare these two. I think I might still need to build a service on top of it.
[21:22] <octav1a> Thanks for the suggestions!
[21:22] <sarnold> octav1a: I think I read both of them once let me look around to see if I took notes
[21:24] <sarnold> octav1a: bummer, I only looked at xdelta3. It felt like it was a bit rough. (The sort of thing you expect from ~25 year old code)
[21:30] <octav1a> lol
[21:59] <ridik> Is there a way to get Ubuntu server on a 32 bit Laptop?
[22:02] <sarnold> ridik: yeah http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/