[09:46] <puff> vwhydrowv: What khermans is suggesting is essentially wholesale upgrading your box to gutsy (you're on dapper, next is feisty, after that gutsy). If that's what you want to do, then go for it.
[09:46] <vwhydrowv> got it
[09:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you can also try --> sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:46] <puff> vwhydrowv: Actually I'd generally recommend upgrading, if you can deal with it, rather than selectively installing ntfs-3g.
[09:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, but i dont think dapper has that feature
[09:46] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend?
[09:46] <Cubexombi> astro76, I'm going for a reboot after coping the fstab over to the problematic install, we'll see how this goes
[09:46] <vwhydrowv> i should wait for this to install first right?
[09:47] <puff> khermans: Back when, I was told that it was a Bad Idea to upgrade by skipping over a version.
[09:47] <puff> khermans: Is that not true for dapper->feisty->gutzy?
[09:47] <khermans> tuntun, is there something in /etc/acpi/ ?
[09:47] <khermans> puff, yeah -- it could be -- but it seemed like he wanted to do it
[09:47] <khermans> puff, i have done it without issues
[09:48] <tuntun> khermans: plenty of things.
[09:48] <khermans> puff, i even have gone from debian -> ubuntu this way
[09:48] <puff> khermans: Heh.
[09:48] <puff> cool by me.
[09:48] <khermans> :-p
[09:48] <puff> vwhydrowv: I've gotta hit the sack, good luck.
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> if i have issues, i can always just redoe the computer, i hate to make the whole day a waste though
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> considering its almost 5am
[09:48] <khermans> tuntun, check the suspend script?
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> ok thanks puff
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> for everything man
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> i really appreciate it
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> i gotta go take a break myself while this is upgrading
[09:49] <___> hey people!
[09:49] <tuntun> khermans: whats it called?
[09:49] <___> i have this machine, that has a single cpu. top shows a load average of 2 and 35% idle time. how can that be? if on average 2 processes are waiting to be executed, how can the machine have 35% idle time?
[09:49] <puff> vwhydrowv: One thing before I go... hopefully drobo is better about this than my laCie drive; somebody was using the laCie drive on windows and didn't do a 'safely unmount USB drive' before shutting down windows, which left the laCie drive in a problem state.
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> puff, dude
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> lacie sucks ass man, backup asap
[09:49] <puff> vwhydrowv: It ended up being simplest to just plug the laCie drive into a winbox and do the 'safely unmount' thing.
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> thats why i have a drobo now
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: Ooookay.
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> how many power supplies have u replaced?
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: good to know :-).
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> the i/o boards go out also and they wont let you buy one if its out of warranty
[09:50] <khermans> tuntun, check out /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: On the laCies?  None.  Then again, I have four of them.
[09:50] <Ayabara> is debs for the latest FF3.0 beta somewhere to be found?
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> they dont even know who makes the chips on there i/o board
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> total nightmare
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: Thanks for the tip. How much is the drobo?
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> there support sucks
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> 450
[09:51] <tuntun> khermans: ok what am i looking for?
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> but alot of advantages
[09:51] <puff> I might get one of those, then.
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> plus 100% data protection
[09:51] <khermans> tuntun, i see something about xscreensaver in there -- not sure if that will work
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> has an os and smart raid array
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> very nice
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> no fragmenting across drives
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> just take out and upgrade whenever u want, doesnt matter the drive type
[09:52] <tuntun> khermans: "if [ x$LOCK_SCREEN = xtrue ]; then" ?
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> light indications on health of drives and when they are getting full
[09:52] <puff> vwhydrowv: I'd like to read osmething a bit more technically oriented about it than their site.
[09:52] <god-minus-one> ok, let me try again.
[09:52] <khermans> tuntun, is this password it asks for xscreensaver ?
[09:52] <god-minus-one> I have this machine, that has a single cpu. top shows a load average of 2 and 35% idle time. how can that be? if on average 2 processes are waiting to be executed, how can the machine have 35% idle time?
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> www.drobo.com   they have a forum
[09:52] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys! Anyone ever used this Gnome Symple file sharing applet ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - I am desporate to know if it works.
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> but im telling you, i was 1 month down because of lacie
[09:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: Good to know.
[09:53] <khermans> tuntun, i am not sure how to di this, sorry :-(
[09:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: Any suggestions for mass backup devices?
[09:53] <vwhydrowv> try rebuilding an array you have no idea about, no chipset to reference, no idea what type of format they setup as the core
[09:53] <tuntun> khermans: ok :)
[09:53] <vwhydrowv> drobo man, im telling you, best i have seen or read about
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> 1 drobo can be scalable up to 8TB
[09:54] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys! Anyone ever used this Gnome Symple file sharing applet ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - Seems to exactly what I am looking for! A simple web-based file sharing server for Gnome! Do you know any other simmilar programs ??? PLS
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> just slide in the sata drives
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> and it does the work for you, no more raid configuration
[09:55] <puff> vwhydrowv: I meant offline backup, e.g. tape drives, etc.
[09:55] <puff> Okay, I gotta crash. I leave you in kherman's hands :-).
[09:55] <vwhydrowv> ok, night man
[09:55] <vwhydrowv> offline i use 750gb sata removables
[09:55] <pibarnas> Which is the config line for xorg to use nvidia restricted driver which prevents if from looping when gdm starts?
[09:56] <osfameron> gosh.  the liveCD really does take a long time to start up
[09:56] <matholum> khermans, i set the umask to 000... i don't know if that is secure, but i can edit the folders and files even though the owner is still root (and i can't change that either)... but hey, it works ^_^ thanks
[09:56] <osfameron> that or the default setting is to install without asking me to repartition, which would be rather odd (and a little annoying)
[09:56] <vwhydrowv> kherman, pretty long install that im looking at?
[09:57] <khermans> matholum, np
[09:57] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yup!
[09:57] <vwhydrowv> ok, im going to bed then
[09:58] <vwhydrowv> its 2 minutes to 5am here
[09:58] <vwhydrowv> thanks alot
[09:58] <matholum> i have a weird question now... i have a symlink to a documents folder on a seperate partition that acts as my home/Documents folder.... can i do that to the Desktop folder too?
[09:58] <mhiku> which is the best existing open source vnc?
[10:00] <khermans> vwhydrowv, np dude :-)
[10:00] <matholum> vwhydrowv, same here... ^_^ cya
[10:00] <vwhydrowv> night all
[10:00] <Gpalco> Anyone ever used this Gnome Web Sharing ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - Need oppinion !!!
[10:00] <matholum> (i'm not leaving... i meant 5 here too... lol)
[10:00] <khermans> matholum, ln -s ?
[10:00] <vwhydrowv> btw...check out my monitor setup    www.computersolutionswv.com  top flash banner
[10:01] <vwhydrowv> looks like something from nasa
[10:01] <matholum> i am afraid to do that though cuz i don't think it will let you delete the current desktop folder.... i tried it once and it was just stuck in the trash and didn't switch over
[10:01] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "mdadm is a program that can be used to create, manage, and monitor MD arrays (e.g. software RAID, multipath devices)." What is an MD array?
[10:02] <void^> "multi disk"
[10:02] <vwhydrowv> is it hd arrays
[10:02] <khermans> bullgard4, mdadm is used for software RAID
[10:02] <khermans> !mdadm | bullgard4
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <khermans> :-(
[10:02] <matholum> if i could kill the desktop folder it'd work.....
[10:03] <khermans> matholum, ?
[10:03] <khermans> matholum, ln -sf ?
[10:04] <bullgard4> khermans: I have read that mdadm is used for software RAID. --  I wonder what an MD array is.
[10:04] <matholum> khermans> i deleted the Desktop folder to create the symlink and it never died... instead my desktop ran out of home/.trash/Desktop
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> i think its done
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> how can i check
[10:04] <puff> vwhydrowv: Oh hell, if I'd know you were a wv boy I wouldn't have helped you :-).
[10:04] <puff> vwhydrowv: Just kidding.
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> lol
[10:04] <puff> khermans: He should be able to pre-cache the files for the upgrade, right?
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> where u from puff?
[10:04] <puff> khermans: Using the aptitude --download-only option?
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> how can i check on the upgrade
[10:04] <khermans> bullgard4, sudo aptitude install wikipedia2text && wikipedia2text mdadm
[10:04] <ethan961_> maybe try removing it with rm -r (using sudo if nessisary) and then restarting X
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> i stopped sending commands
[10:05] <puff> vwhydrowv: Pittsburgh.
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> dude, im only 1.5 hrs away from u
[10:05] <khermans> puff, with --deownload, yes
[10:05] <puff> vwhydrowv: How much free space do you have?
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> u know where wheeling, wv is?
[10:05] <matholum> i'm in columbus.... so not too far either
[10:05] <khermans> vwhydrowv, im in Boston :-)
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> on the linux system?
[10:06] <mhiku> theres majority of open source vnc there, which is the best?
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> no about 3.5 hrs matholum
[10:06] <khermans> mhiku, tightvnc imho
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> used to live in both columbus and pittsburgh
[10:06] <Kalamansi> hello how to use dhcp? modem>server ubuntu>switch > pc2.. pc2 is already connected with the ip of the server's nic2 and the gateway assigned  thru it.. how to obtain pc2 without assigning an ip and gateway and subnet?
[10:06] <matholum> oh... i thought it was closer.... lol
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> went to itt tech in pittsburgh and devry in columbus
[10:06] <helloyo> is there a way that i can run apps as another user? they can't connect to the xserver
[10:06] <matholum> LOL i am going to devry right now
[10:06] <matholum> i am from dayton though
[10:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: So basically do hat kherman said, only "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade --download-only" and hit the sack, it'll download all the files you need for the upgrade but not actually do anything.
[10:07] <khermans> Kalamansi, reprhrase
[10:07] <vwhydrowv> is alum creek and livingston still a hooker hangout?
[10:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: I was born in columbus, on the AFB.
[10:07] <puff> alum creek?
[10:07] <puff> Oh, dayton.
[10:07] <khermans> helloyo, su -c ?
[10:07] <bullgard4> khermans: Thank you for you answer. It helped me to view my problem from another aspect, and thus I found the solution.
[10:07] <puff> Okay, goodnight all.
[10:07] <helloyo> khermans: i'll try it out, thanks
[10:07] <matholum> lol... kinda
[10:08] <matholum> mainly hobos
[10:08] <khermans> bullgard4, np dude :-)
[10:08] <Return0> how can I find out what speed my network device is working at?
[10:08] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:08] <khermans> helloyo, good luck!
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> i used to live on east side of columbus by courtwright and petzinger
[10:08] <osfameron> does the ubuntu live CD have a minimum free HD space requirement?
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> but the eastland mall
[10:08] <khermans> Return0, sudo aptitude install nload ?
[10:08] <osfameron> my current partitioning is rubbish, the w2k setup barely works
[10:08] <Return0> I've got a PS3 running ubuntu, but the network speed seems really slow, I was wondering if it's in some weird 10baseT mode
[10:08] <matholum> i am in reynoldsburg
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> and up in pittsburgh on 28 near etna
[10:08] <osfameron> but ubuntu doesn't seem to want to actually boot in order to let me repartition
[10:09] <khermans> osfameron, i bleive 2GB
[10:09] <vwhydrowv> ok not too far from there math
[10:09] <matholum> nope
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: eeeek!
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: on the C: partition?
[10:09] <khermans> Return0, ifconfig shoudl show you
[10:09] <Return0> ah
[10:09] <helloyo> khermans: ah, no luck, still "cannot open display"
[10:09] <vwhydrowv> i hated columbus though, crime was aweful when i lived there
[10:09] <Return0> what setting am I looking at?
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: cos if so, I'm in trouble.  There's only 1/2 Gb on C:, and it's all full
[10:09] <khermans> osfameron, there is no C: partition in ubuntu ... heh
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: ok, I mean *free* disk space
[10:10] <khermans> helloyo, thats a problem with X, try --> export DISPLAY-:0.0
[10:10] <matholum> cwhydrowv, i hated it when i lived in hiliard... and crime was bad there... but i love reynoldsburg
[10:10] <khermans> then retry
[10:10] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:10] <khermans> DISPLAY=:0.0
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: I mean ubuntu to take all of it when done, but it's not booting up to the bit where I can get to repartition the drive
[10:10] <vwhydrowv> reynoldsburg has always been nice
[10:10] <khermans> osfameron, for resizing windows?
[10:10] <vwhydrowv> outside of the city
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: I want to wipe windows
[10:10] <helloyo> khermans: ah ok, will do
[10:10] <khermans> osfameron, oh just delete windows then
[10:10] <matholum> ya.... it is quiet too
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: as my win setup is totally messed up anyway
[10:10] <ScottNail> hey guys - i need some help :( - i have fluxbuntu running on an old pc, i need to install my wirelessusb dev. i had problems and messed the whole thing up so I have reinstalled and started from scratch :)
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: do I have to delete windows before booting the liveCD?
[10:11] <vwhydrowv> i used to live by greenbriar apartments, dont know if you heard of them but it was nicknamed uzi alley
[10:11] <khermans> osfameron, nope -- in the livecd installer, just choose Delete All Data
[10:11] <khermans> or whateve rthe  option is
[10:11] <Kalamansi> khermans: how to set pc2 to have internet directly by not assigning an ip,subnet and dns?
[10:11] <matholum> lol... i've never heard of em
[10:11] <vwhydrowv> allegheny ave, near the airport
[10:11] <khermans> Kalamansi, you mean staticly assing the network parameters?
[10:12] <osfameron> khermans: ok - that's what I thought.  I'll try again, but the LiveCD wouldn't boot up last time - just got to screen with mouse pointer and creamy background and stayed there for 15 minutes with no feedback :-(
[10:12] <Kalamansi> khermans: i dont want to expose my dns. im not sure if it is advisable to put the dns of my isp
[10:12] <matholum> there is alot of references to things that i dunno cuz i'm not from around here ^_^
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> done
[10:12] <khermans> osfameron, try safe mode graphics?
[10:12] <Nikster> Im running ubuntu 7.10, i have flashplugin-nonfree installed and flash (youtube i.e) does not work, any reason? gives me an error stating i have javascript turned off or an old flashplayer
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> what command do i use to verify upgrade?
[10:12] <osfameron> khermans: ok - will that let me install too?
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> there was something puff told me before
[10:12] <khermans> Kalamansi, you can firewall it off right?
[10:12] <Kalamansi> khermans: assigning ip each pcs ( 40 pcs) is kinda time consuming...
[10:12]  * ScottNail is getting tired
[10:12] <khermans> !flash | Nikster
[10:12] <ubotu> Nikster: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:12] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:13] <khermans> Kalamansi, well then you dhcp!
[10:13] <Kalamansi> khermans: what i want my workstations is just obtain dhcp.
[10:13] <Kalamansi> khermans: how?
[10:13] <vwhydrowv> !version | vwhydrowv
[10:13] <khermans> Kalamansi, do you have a DHCP server or home router which does this?
[10:13] <vwhydrowv> err, dont work for me
[10:13] <Nikster> How long will it take for a fix?
[10:13] <khermans> Nikster, you can get the fix in -proposed
[10:13] <khermans> !proposed | Nikster
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proposed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <mkquist> osfameron - wut u trying to do?
[10:13] <khermans> !repositories | Nikster
[10:13] <ubotu> Nikster: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:14] <Kalamansi> khermans: my firestarter still wont run tho. tho its installed. and im not sure if dhcp is running tho i installed it already. and i dont have a router tho. just server ubuntu 7.10
[10:14] <vwhydrowv> ok still says dapper as the version
[10:14] <matholum> (i am using pidgn... anyone have any idea what the colors mean... i take it gold is someone talking to you...)
[10:14] <khermans> Kalamansi, so ubuntu server would be your DHCP right?
[10:14] <vwhydrowv> do i need to reboot first
[10:14] <Kalamansi> yes khermans:
[10:14] <ubuntu__> hi everyone
[10:14] <enigma_> Buongiorno a tutti c'è qlcuno italiano?
[10:14] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:15] <Kalamansi> my nic 2 is <IP_ADDRESS>..my pc2 is using <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:15] <Kalamansi> khermans: my nic 2 is <IP_ADDRESS>..my pc2 is using <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:15] <^> trying to use ICQ with pidgin, but can't connect to login server. Any ideas?
[10:15] <khermans> Kalamansi, can you not just set the DHCP server on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:16] <topicks> woohoo gibbon is done installing
[10:16] <Dyus> is there a specific channel for overclocking questions?
[10:16] <Kalamansii> hi
[10:16] <Kalamansi> sec
[10:16] <khermans> Kalamansii, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:17] <khermans> !dhcpd | Kalamansii
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <ethan961> da gibbon got gutz
[10:17] <Return0> so looking at ifconfig how can I tell what speed my network supports?
[10:17] <vwhydrowv> wow, that slowed down ubuntu majorly
[10:17] <Ayabara> is there a good (gui) batch renamer for gnome out there?
[10:17] <Kalamansi> khermans : is there any cheat sheet for that dhcp?
[10:18] <khermans> Return0, your NIC is probably autosensing
[10:18] <khermans> Kalamansi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:18] <Return0> I'd hope so
[10:18] <Return0> it's a PS3...
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, i saw one once!
[10:18] <Return0> dunno what it has in there but it seemed slow copying from my pc
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, but i like sed :-)
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, check out the rename command
[10:19] <Ayabara> khermans, I have an alias for lowercasing stuff using rename, but that's about all the regexp I know :-)
[10:19] <khermans> Ayabara, sudo aptitude install gprename pyrenamer renameutils
[10:19] <ubuntu__> asup
[10:19] <khermans> Ayabara, pick on from above
[10:19] <Kalamansi> khermans : how to know if i have already dhcp installed? (which is i already downloaded or installed it lately)
[10:20] <khermans> Kalamansi, dhcpd, not dhcp
[10:20] <Ayabara> khermans, thanks
[10:20] <khermans> Kalamansi, aptitude search dhcp
[10:20] <khermans> look for an 'i' in the first column
[10:20] <khermans> Ayabara, np
[10:21] <Kalamansi> khermans : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon  -- i dont understand this.. its not english =/
[10:21] <khermans> Kalamansi, still gives an diea for scommands to run
[10:22] <Kalamansi> khermans : do i need to install it again? sudo apt-get install dhcp ?
[10:22] <matholum> ...that was weird.... my internet bugged out
[10:22] <matholum> oh, rosegarden... could someone tell me how do i fix the system timer? is it hard?
[10:22] <khermans> Kalamansi, no just once
[10:22] <matholum> my internet just bugged out so i'll try it again...
[10:22] <vwhydrowv> khermans, its not starting now, says it cant load a font "fixed" so its not loading the gui
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what cant start?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> the gui
[10:23] <matholum> does anyone know what to do to fix the system timer for rosegarden?
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, oh what program?
[10:23]  * syc_ mohon pamid
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> fatal server error
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, or is it gnome?
[10:23]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what happened?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> i use startx
[10:23] <ajmorris> hi, im trying to upgrade the RAM in my pc, i have 'hynix 1Rx8 PC2=4200U-444-12 corsair' in there currently, can i add 'hynix 1Rx8 PC2=4200U-444-12' to it?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> not sur if thats gnome or not
[10:24] <khermans> vwhydrowv, are you in the middle of an upgrade?
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> x server
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> no, it finished
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> atleast i thought it did
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> i didnt see anything left running
[10:24] <khermans> vwhydrowv, run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-ugprade again
[10:24] <khermans> make sure
[10:24] <ehc> how can I get an image of an entire page including contents that require scrolling from firefox? a screenshot doesn't include the area that needs to be scrollled to
[10:25] <Kalamansi> khermans : dp ypu have english letters of this website please? i dont understand...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:25] <Vinconzo> hi
[10:25] <khermans> ehc, html2pdf ?
[10:25] <mkquist> ehc:  why not just save the page?
[10:25] <Vinconzo> ubuntu doesnt recognize my laptop's wifi anymore
[10:25] <vwhydrowv> its doing something
[10:25] <mkquist> ehc: should include all
[10:25] <Cubexombi> astro76- FYI, didn't work, though in my fstab i managed to remove the UUID=" blabla" and revert back to a simpler /dev/hdxx .. oddly this did the trick..
[10:25] <Vinconzo> rephrase
[10:26] <mkquist> ehc: including images and such
[10:26] <Vinconzo> my wifi doesnt work wifi ubnuntu anymore
[10:26] <khermans> Kalamansi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355318
[10:26] <bullgard4> What does 'cgen' stand for, for example in http://sourceware.org/cgen/gen-doc/frv-2.html?
[10:26] <ehc> mkquist, yeah
[10:26] <Vinconzo> it shows up in lspci and it's loaded in lsmod
[10:26] <vwhydrowv> maybe i should hit y for yes for everything
[10:26] <astro76> Cubexombi, hmm yeah I guess you need to run the blkid in the system you are changing to get the correct UUID
[10:26] <T045T> hi... can someone answer a question about dual-screen with an NVidia card?
[10:26] <mkquist> ehc: so that works?
[10:26] <vwhydrowv> first it says
[10:27] <astro76> !uuid | Cubexombi
[10:27] <ubotu> Cubexombi: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> leave the following dependencies unresolved
[10:27] <nvictor> hi
[10:27] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what dependencies?
[10:27] <ehc> mkquist, html2pdf? I don't really want to use a pdf, I just want it in a jpeg.
[10:27] <nvictor> how do I know that apache2 is running?
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> openoffice.org-core recommends nfs-common
[10:27] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yeah dont worry about it yet
[10:27] <khermans> nvictor, ps aux
[10:27] <nvictor> thanks
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> deskbar-applet recommends libdeskbar--tracker
[10:27] <khermans> nvictor, or pidof apache2
[10:28] <mkquist> ehc: so ur trying to save a pdf?
[10:28] <Cubexombi> astro76: thx,looks like taht explains things a bit.. ..
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, just go ahead with everything
[10:28] <mkquist> ehc: then that should be an option on ur toolbar... no?
[10:28] <Cubexombi> well now taht this is fixed it's coffee time
[10:28] <mkquist> e
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> hplib, python-html, update-notifire, file-rollerare other ones
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did you have an thrid-party repositoreis, like automatix?
[10:28] <mkquist> then open in gimp and save as? no?
[10:28] <ehc> mkquist, I am using firefox with the web developer add on and I am using web developer to highlight somethings. I want to save this as an image
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> it also says score is -5851
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, ha!
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> ?
[10:28] <mkquist> e
[10:29] <mkquist> sry
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[10:29] <mkquist> ehc: save as jpeg or png?
[10:29] <vwhydrowv> so do i press y here or n
[10:29] <ehc> mkquist, either will work
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, y if it is not going to remove a bunch of stuff
[10:29] <astro76> ehc, apps > accessories > take screenshot, or press print screen on your keyboard
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, be careful here
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you should pastebin your sources.list file
[10:29] <vwhydrowv> ok, next stup
[10:30] <gourdin> is there a way back when installing kde4rc2 on gusty ?
[10:30] <mkquist> ehc: done then?
[10:30] <khermans> gourdin, purge it?
[10:30] <ehc> astro76, that will only take a screenshot of shown window, I want it to include contents that need to be scrolled to be seen. the window is long
[10:30] <khermans> ehc, file -> save page
[10:30] <vwhydrowv> need to get 0B/524MB of archives, after unpacking 493MB will be used
[10:30] <vwhydrowv> y.n?
[10:30] <nvictor> khermans: lighttpd is running on port 80, which is prevent apache2 to run, how do I fix that?
[10:30] <khermans> vwhydrowv, go for it
[10:31] <nvictor> *preventing
[10:31] <Shai_A> hello people, I have a problem opening a RAR file. I tried using ARK but it doesn't work
[10:31] <gourdin> khermans: some new 3.5.8 package are installed, so I don't know if just purging kde4 is a way back
[10:31] <ehc> khermans, I want to have the web developer highlighted sections of the page shown.
[10:31] <vwhydrowv> ok back at prompt
[10:31] <gourdin> nvictor: either change apache2 listening port or lighthttpd
[10:31] <khermans> nvictor, sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop
[10:31] <nvictor> thanks
[10:31] <khermans> nvictor, or remove the pacjage if not using it
[10:31] <gourdin> nvictor: this will work too :)
[10:31] <khermans> Shai_A, sudo aptitude install rar
[10:31] <nvictor> khermans: how do I remove the package?
[10:32] <matholum> well... i'm getting off... cya all later and thanks for the help ^_^
[10:32] <khermans> gourdin, try removing and reinstalling the old version
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> sudo do-release-upgrade command not found
[10:32] <root_> hackmepleasse
[10:32] <khermans> ehc, larger screen reoslution then?
[10:32] <Shai_A> khermans: sorry, I'm new to Linux, I lost you after you said sudo
[10:32] <khermans> nvictor, sudo aptitude remove lighttpd
[10:32] <khermans> vwhydrowv, dont worr yabout that
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> shai, type that in terminal emulator
[10:32] <nvictor> thanks
[10:32] <khermans> vwhydrowv, its because you havent actually updated yet
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:33] <vwhydrowv> so now what?
[10:33] <Shai_A> okay, I'll try...
[10:33] <khermans> !sudo | Shai_A
[10:33] <ubotu> Shai_A: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:33] <ehc> khermans, yeah, hmm maybe if I resize the page to 1024x6000 or something ksnapshot will include even what the monitor doesn't show. let me try that
[10:33] <Shai_A> thanks all
[10:33] <vwhydrowv> same fatal error khermans
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> shai, no prob
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what is the error?
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> fatal server error
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did the upgrade happen?
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, it sounded like there was still more to do
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> i dont think it did
[10:34] <irvken> anyone use virtualbox
[10:35] <khermans> !anyone | irvken
[10:35] <ubotu> irvken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did it give an error ?
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, on the aptitude dist-upgrade??
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> yes
[10:35] <Shai_A> it worked! :)
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> oh
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, the font ?
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> 1 sec
[10:35] <chazco> How can I determine if internal bluetooth is actually USB?
[10:35] <Boris> irvken : i've used virtualbox
[10:36] <khermans> chazco, lsusb ?
[10:36] <irvken> I'm trying to install winxp as a virtual machine on my ubuntu laptop but after the blue screen of install and the reboot in 15 secs, the screen just goes black/blank
[10:36] <carina> what the fastest rdp remote connection software?
[10:36] <chazco> khermans - Bingo, thanks :)
[10:36] <khermans> caravena, rdesktop ?
[10:36] <vwhydrowv> yes the font erored only after that upgrade
[10:36] <khermans> chazco, np dude
[10:36] <Boris> irvken : your ubuntu screen or winxp screen *
[10:36] <chazco> irvken - I'm using virtualbox, make sure you told it you were going to use XP (sounds daft, but still)
[10:36] <irvken> juts the winxp screen
[10:36] <nvictor> khermans: isn't /etc/init.d/apache2 start to start apache2?
[10:37] <Boris> irvken : you should ask in #virtualbox
[10:37] <vwhydrowv> when i type in startx
[10:37] <mkquist> ehc: save as pdf, open in gimp and save as png or whatever, just did it... works
[10:37] <khermans> nvictor, yes, but i never said to do that
[10:37] <vwhydrowv> i get could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:37] <irvken> thx Boris
[10:37] <tanlaan> If I'm installing a seperate home partition, what size should I make my root partition?
[10:37] <ehc> mkquist, using html2pdf?
[10:37] <carina> rdesktop windows terminal session or nxclient anything else ?
[10:37] <ehc> !html2pdf
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2pdf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <nvictor> khermans: well, how should I start apache? I do that, and ps aux and I don't find apache2 listed.
[10:37] <mkquist> ehc: i just opened a pdf in firefox, save as pdf, opened in gimp and saved as jpeg or png... works easy and quick
[10:38] <khermans> vwhydrowv, youre not going to be able to finish the upgrade until you reboot anyways
[10:38] <gourdin> anyone using kde 4 rc2 here ?
[10:38] <gourdin> on ubuntu ?
[10:38] <vwhydrowv> x10: fatal i0 error 104 connection reset by peer on x server ":0.0" after 9 requests (0 known processed) with 9 events remaining
[10:38] <gourdin> )à
[10:38] <carina> the weird thing it fastest when i use windows remote client to connect
[10:38] <gourdin> =)
[10:38] <mkquist> ehc: worked for me saving from a website, just like that
[10:38] <khermans> nvictor, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:38] <nvictor> ok
[10:38] <vwhydrowv> ok ill reboot, but when i rebooted last time thats when i ended up here
[10:38] <carina> is there an something similiar to that on ubuntu?
[10:38] <mkquist> ehc: no screenshots required and quick
[10:38] <ehc> mkquist, did you try using the web developer addon to highlight anything? that is the main thing that I need. I want to highlight the different sections of a website to show the tables that it is using.
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i woudlnt reboot until upgrade is done
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv,  we need to install the last packages
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> there was no more commands being processed
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you never told em those erros
[10:39] <mkquist> ehc: well, no cant say that i did, sry.  What are u after?
[10:39] <khermans> didt it say "need to install ..."
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> yes but it didnt
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> after several attempts
[10:39] <khermans> so there must be some error though
[10:40] <khermans> in the display
[10:40] <nvictor> khermans: nothing happens
[10:40] <khermans> or check /var/log/
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> yes, agree
[10:40] <nvictor> am I doing something wrong?
[10:40] <hacked_kernel> Is there a firefox plugin or independent player for IPIX extensions?
[10:40] <carina> does the rdesktop depend on the graphics card of the machine?
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> its restarting
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> the monitor blinks on and off several times before i get that message
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:40] <ehc> mkquist, i want to take a long (as in you need to scroll through the page to show all of the content) webpage and save it as an image.
[10:40] <khermans> nvictor, what are yo utry ig to do?
[10:40] <khermans> carina, no
[10:41] <nvictor> I have just apt-get apache2
[10:41] <carina> when i use rdesktop screen seems very sluggish
[10:41] <nvictor> I want to start it
[10:41] <khermans> nvictor, but you need to kill any other web servers running too
[10:41] <vwhydrowv> failed to start the x server ( your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?
[10:41] <carina> which one is better window terminal server or rdesktop?
[10:41] <shadix> hey anyone have an idea why my keyboard sometimes dosn't work when I get to my login screen
[10:41] <nvictor> khermans: I have killed lighttpd
[10:41] <khermans> nvictor, http://bashcurescancer.com/installing-apache-on-ubuntu-710-gusty-gibbon.html
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> the msg box talks about the font issue again
[10:42] <nvictor> khermans: I have installed it
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: well u can save it as multiple images if that helps, u still get the whole page in one swipe of a d/l tho
[10:42] <khermans> nvictor, if it is not starting, check /var/log for erros
[10:42] <shadix> CaptainMorgan: YArrrrr!
[10:42] <nvictor> ok
[10:42] <carina> with windows terminal session it seems to give all the everything including background and such
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> x window system version 1.3.0
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: maybe join the images in gimp?
[10:42] <nvictor> thanks
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> release date: 19 april 2007
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: or are u looking for code?
[10:42] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yes we need to fix that -- but the aptitude dist-upgrade needs to be figured out
[10:42] <carina> oh yeah which rdp is better rdpv5 or regular rdp?
[10:42] <CaptainMorgan> shadix, arrgghh!!
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, please pastebin your sources.list
[10:43] <vwhydrowv> x protocol version 11, revision 0, release 1.3
[10:43] <ehc> is there an html to image tool?
[10:43] <vwhydrowv> do u want me to keep giving u this info or go to the upgrade again
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, show me your sources.list
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <vwhydrowv> ok, im working on it :)
[10:45] <vwhydrowv> is it gedit?
[10:45] <rejeep> Hi! Which package do I need for "limits.h"?
[10:45] <khermans> vwhydrowv, if you like
[10:45] <ehc> !html2image
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2image - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <ehc> !html2jpg
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2jpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <ehc> !html2png
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2png - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <carina> what the difference in rdp and rdpv5
[10:45] <chazco> ehc - Trying to convert images by any chance?
[10:45] <vwhydrowv> im trying to use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <khermans> rejden, sudo aptitude install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search limits.h
[10:46] <ehc> chazco, I want to convert an html file into an image.
[10:46] <vwhydrowv> but its coming back to see a full list of available command line options type gedit --help
[10:46] <vwhydrowv> err
[10:46] <shadix> seriously it's really annoying and every time it happens i have to restart
[10:46] <shadix> pls hlp
[10:46] <chazco> ehc - Print screen?
[10:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <rejeep> khermans, guess you mean rejeep =)
[10:46] <rejeep> khermans, thanks
[10:46] <ehc> chazco, nope, the webpage is long and connot be captured in one screens view.
[10:47] <khermans> rejeep, yes ^^^ sorry to that other dude
[10:47] <vwhydrowv> any other way i can pastebin this for u?
[10:47] <chazco> ehc - If the webpage is online a quick / easy way would be to use browsershots
[10:47] <khermans> vwhydrowv, /topic
[10:47] <wers> how do I install fluxbuntu over ubuntu? :D
[10:48] <khermans> wers, sudo aptitude install fluxbox ?
[10:48] <wers> khermans, just the fluxbox package?
[10:48] <wers> doesnt fluxbuntu have its own settings, etc
[10:48] <vwhydrowv> says /topic command not found
[10:48] <khermans> wers, you could format ubuntu, keep your /home though
[10:48] <chazco> ehc - Any good?
[10:49] <ehc> chazco, okay that could work, I am just going to try patching together different screenshots
[10:49] <wers> khermans, I can't just add fluxbuntu's repo or something?
[10:49] <khermans> vwhydrowv, type that in this channel
[10:49] <vwhydrowv> oh, lol
[10:49] <chazco> Ok... browsershots is quite effective though, so may be worth looking into
[10:50] <khermans> wers, sounds liek it would work
[10:50] <wers> khermans, the weird thing is that, I have been googling but I can't find the url for the repo
[10:51] <laymu> ;-)
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> no man, i know how to pastebin once got it copied, how can i copy the info
[10:51] <wers> it's not even in its site, launchpad page or wikipedia article
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> gedit isnt working for me
[10:51] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did you ssh into the remote machine?
[10:51] <khermans> then just copy and paste
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> no
[10:51] <laymu> vwhydrowv:why?
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> why didnt i?
[10:52] <^_uhoh> Does anyone happen to know of any simple animated gifs of a *nix environment, perhaps a terminal/console scrolling endlessly?
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, his X is broken on upgrade
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> because 1st i dont have a clue how
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, aptitude has not finished
[10:52] <laymu> hmmm
[10:52] <laymu> got it
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> 2nd i thought i was supposed to run a command to bring up firefox to use pastebin once i got the text copied
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, i told him we need to fix his apt
[10:53] <laymu> then what's it going on?
[10:53] <khermans> laymu, hes having ttourlbing pastinning
[10:53] <vwhydrowv> ok ill just type in what i find
[10:54] <laymu> what
[10:54] <laymu> why don't you rebuild the system?
[10:55] <laymu> It seems convenient
[10:56] <laymu> You can backup the import files and folders previously !
[10:56] <vwhydrowv> what does restricted mean after it?
[10:56] <vwhydrowv> does that mean i cant access it?
[10:56] <khermans> vwhydrowv, no
[10:57] <khermans> !repositories | vwhydrowv
[10:57] <ubotu> vwhydrowv: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:57] <vwhydrowv> im in vi right now, is there a way to select everything and copy?
[10:58] <osfameron> I've tried prepending "acpi=off panic=5" to the options (F6) from the installer menu, but it is still chugging away after 5 mins, refusing to boot up
[10:58] <osfameron> any suggestions for other options?  (The disk verifies as OK)
[10:59] <khermans> vwhydrowv, dude lets just forget about the sources.list
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> sounds good
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> lol
[10:59] <shadix> i need to be able to view vids on the net a Gnash isn't working is there something eles or some update I have to do
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> cause im not getting anywhere with that
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> ok so now what can we do
[11:00] <vwhydrowv> or is there a next?
[11:00] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude -vvv dist-upgrade ?
[11:00] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:00] <khermans> !flash | shadix
[11:00] <ubotu> shadix: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:00] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:00] <Kalamansi> hello done installing firestarter but when i run it Applications>Internet>Firestarter it gives me to an error like this "Failed to start the firewall, the device eth0 is not ready" ...my server ubuntu have internet and also my workstation...but i cannot make run firestarter because of that error..need your help please.thanks
[11:00] <^tiNee^> anyone here use geubuntu?
[11:01] <osfameron> hmmm, in safe mode, I have control of mouse (but the disk still chuggs away without doing anything).  In normal boot up, the mouse moves only once every minute or so
[11:01] <vwhydrowv> ok now?
[11:02] <khermans> vwhydrowv, any output?
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> yes. which part
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> looked like it did previously
[11:02] <khermans> vwhydrowv, or try -> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <jmchaffie> Greets! Is there an app that will auto-generate thumbnails from directories without having to manually create them from each image?
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> now?
[11:03] <khermans> vwhydrowv, check /var/log for errors
[11:03] <vwhydrowv> says something like try using -f
[11:03] <khermans> hrmm
[11:03] <khermans> before that
[11:03] <vwhydrowv> unmet dependencies
[11:03] <khermans> vwhydrowv, which ones?
[11:03] <zcat[1]> jmchaffie: llgal will do all that and make a web-gallery html page for you
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> not sure, it scrolled so fast, but the last 2 are
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> python-central
[11:04] <jmchaffie> zcat: Hey thanks! is that something from apt-get? Or do I need to go find it?
[11:04] <khermans> which packages need it ?
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> python
[11:04] <zcat[1]> apt-get
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> ubuntu3
[11:04] <jmchaffie> THANK YOU! I appreciate it.
[11:04] <khermans> vwhydrowv, ubuntu3 ?
[11:05] <vwhydrowv> says this
[11:05] <khermans> vwhydrowv, python-central is in gutsy
[11:05] <vwhydrowv> depends: python (>= 2.5) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 is installed
[11:06] <khermans> vwhydrowv, try sudo aptitude install python
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> lave the following dependencies unresolved:
[11:07] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sure
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> libgnomevfs2-0 recommends gnome-mount
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> gnome-applets recommends deskbar-applet
[11:07] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sure
[11:08] <vwhydrowv> score is 90489
[11:08] <Kalamansi> hello done installing firestarter but when i run it Applications>Internet>Firestarter it gives me to an error like this "Failed to start the firewall, the device eth0 is not ready" ...my server ubuntu have internet and also my workstation...but i cannot make run firestarter because of that error..need your help please.thanks
[11:08] <nvictor> khermans: my apache2 installation is not working, I get no log, no error messages, nothing
[11:08] <khermans> just say yes
[11:08] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:08] <khermans> nvictor, you got problems!
[11:08] <nvictor> yes
[11:08] <khermans> nvictor, are you sure you installed apache2 and not apace?
[11:08] <nvictor> yes
[11:08] <khermans> vwhydrowv, err try it i guess
[11:08] <nvictor> I have just removed all the packages
[11:08] <nvictor> and re-installed
[11:08] <khermans> Kalamansi, try #firestarter ?
[11:09] <Kalamansi> why is it that my firestarter didnt detect eth0? what could be the problem?
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> try sudo firestarter
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> it has to be run as root
[11:09] <nvictor> khermans: are there other ways except apt-get to install a package on command line?
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> still doing stuff
[11:09] <khermans> nvictor, aptitude
[11:09] <nvictor> ok
[11:09] <nvictor> aptitude install?
[11:09] <khermans> vwhydrowv, installing?
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> i got to get something to drink and use the restroom man, been a while, lol
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> ya
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> it is
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> brb
[11:09] <khermans> vwhydrowv, hehe
[11:10] <khermans> vwhydrowv, getting closer perhaps
[11:10] <khermans> vwhydrowv, better to upgrade every 6 months if you can :-0
[11:10] <khermans> or wait between LTS releases
[11:11] <Kalamansi> i did that "sudo firestarter" and still "failed to start the firewall the device eth0 is not ready"
[11:11] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> now it says
[11:12] <|ns|nR8> Kalamansi you got some other network monitor running ?
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> configuring libpam0g
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> starvices to restart for pam library upgrade
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> samba gdm cupsys crom atd apache2
[11:12] <khermans> vwhydrowv, nice!
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> should i click ok?
[11:13] <Kalamansi> |ns|nR8 im not sure tho firestarter is installed. how to know that if other network is running?
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> i take that as a yes
[11:13] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i dont think you can click, but yes!
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> ok, same issue though
[11:13] <khermans> ?
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> failed to start the x server
[11:13] <osfameron> ooo! I can get to a command line prompt during boot of livecd
[11:13] <osfameron> load average 10.45
[11:13] <khermans> vwhydrowv, we only updated python dude
[11:13] <osfameron> and the X session is still mainly hung
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> oh ok
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> sorry
[11:14] <khermans> vwhydrowv, heh
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> lol
[11:14] <khermans> hold on a sec
[11:14] <osfameron> from command line is there a good way to debug why X isn't starting properly ?
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> new error
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> failure restarting some services for pam upgrade
[11:14] <mosno> osfameron: /var/log/X*
[11:14] <_Bart__> Hi, can someone help me with this error, Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed!
[11:14] <vwhydrowv>  the following services could not be restart for the pam library upgrade
[11:14] <perfector>  my squid is crashing too often.. too many people trying to authenticate and being refused. how can i stop it from crashing??
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> apache2
[11:14] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> you will need to start these manually
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> as soon as it lets me
[11:15] <khermans> hehe ok
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> still upgrading pam
[11:15] <khermans> vwhydrowv, oh its stil upgrading?
[11:15] <osfameron> mosno: thanks
[11:15] <Kalamansi> there's no humans in ##firestarter nor #firestarter. that means im the only one who use then huhuhuhu need help..i
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> score is -905
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> lol
[11:16] <_Bart__> someone???? please??
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> gotta love those statistics
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> its upgrading now
[11:16] <khermans> vwhydrowv, heh ok
[11:16] <khermans> vwhydrowv, after it is done --> sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:17] <vwhydrowv> k
[11:17] <vwhydrowv> regenerating fonts cache, yah@!!!!!
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> sudo do-release-upgrade not recognized
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, :-)
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, must not have installed though
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> says not found i mean
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, apnd you installed it?
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> i ran what u said to run
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> line by line
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> :)
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> same font issue
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did update-manager-core install?
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> so i guess it didnt work
[11:19] <inflex> is there a guide on how to upgrade from 7.04 -> 7.10 using a 7.10 CD ?
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> i can do it again
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i want to know the errors
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i am running blind since you cant pastebin
[11:20] <^_uhoh> Is anyone able to create a simple animated gif of a console scrolling output endlessly and seamlessly?
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> its so fast, is there a way to slow it down
[11:20] <beni> Can anyone hellp me with setting the trip_points file for my CPU fan? By Ubuntu default everything is set to 100°C and thats way too how, and I cant find anything on the Internet... :(
[11:20]  * osfameron gives up on the LiveCD
[11:20] <khermans> vwhydrowv, pipe it to less
[11:20] <khermans> | less
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> is there a way to ssh u into it?
[11:20] <wers> which is lighter, the new yahoo! mail on my firefox or sundbird with my gmail? :D
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:20] <osfameron> I'll download the installation based CD instead, that might work
[11:20] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:20]  * inflex thinks there are too many people in this channel to effectively support people :(
[11:20] <wers> i mean, uses less resources like ram and cpu
[11:21]  * inflex is dissapointed that since upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.10 on one machine, his ATi X800 card now craps out :(... worked fine in 6.10
[11:21] <khermans> inflex, yo ucan just pop in the CD i think
[11:22] <Drakx_> wers: im taking a guess here and saying sunbird, since firefox is greedy IMO
[11:22] <khermans> inflex, sudo restricted-manager
[11:22] <beni> inflex, my gf had the same problem..
[11:22] <inflex> khermans: doing that usually proceeds with a complete obliteration
[11:22] <wers> Drakx_, hmmm.. yah. maybe
[11:22] <inflex> beni: would you believe, it's my -wife's- machine
[11:22] <wers> how about Y!Mail on epiphany vs. gmail on sunbird?
[11:22] <agent> g
[11:23] <Drakx_> wers: I dont know since i dont use epiphany
[11:23] <alanbshepard70> stupid question..... when using a command line how do I input a filename with spaces in it? when I type the spaces whatever program that is being passed the filename sees the space as error
[11:23] <inflex> beni: upgraded her from a 9200SE -> X800GTO so her WinXP "Sims2" would work nicely...  then the other night I upgraded her Ubuntu from 6.10 -> 7.10 ... and now after 10 mins the keyboard / mouse clicks have no effect, though the machine still runs (I can ssh in and shut it down etc)
[11:24] <Drakx_> alanbshepard70: use touch i\ am\ a\ file
[11:24] <wers> Drakx_, oh well. maybe, it's best to stick with my mail. it's been my primary email ever since. hehe
[11:24] <astro76> alanbshepard70: like\ this or "like this"
[11:24] <Drakx_> wers: :)
[11:24] <arcade> *sigh*.  Linux and sound.  Hate.hate.hate. :P
[11:25] <alanbshepard70> astro76: would it look like this /home/myusername/"filename with spaces" or "/home/myusername/filename with spaces" ?
[11:25] <arcade> Just discovered why 'tremulous' was warping.  artsd was hogging resources for playing sound, making the entire game lag. :P
[11:25] <Drakx_> alanbshepard70: file\ name or "file name"
[11:25] <beni> inflex, :-(
[11:26] <inflex> beni: so now I've had to roll her back to the 9200SE
[11:26] <inflex> beni: truly confounds me :(
[11:26] <beni> after some reinstalling of the ATI drivers it suddenly worked - I dunno how and why..
[11:26] <inflex> mmm...
[11:26] <beni> yep, ATI really sucks sometimes
[11:26] <inflex> can't even use the card elsewher eprobably because we all are now using Ubuntu 7.10
[11:26] <astro76> alanbshepard70: the second one, enclose the whole path
[11:26] <inflex> (father, wife, me, mother inlaw, brother inlaw, etc)
[11:27] <osfameron> ok!  I think the problem is I have 128M Ram on this old POS.  I guess the LiveCD isn't very happy with that amount of mem
[11:27]  * inflex is using a 9250 atm
[11:27] <herz1> how do I find out which kernel module provides "eth0" (or "eth1")?
[11:27] <inflex> osfameron: ja, that's a bit 'tight'
[11:27] <inflex> herz1: try erm....   dmesg | grep eth0
[11:27] <inflex> herz1: or 'lsmod'
[11:27] <khermans> osfameron, min is 192MB
[11:27] <alanbshepard70> astro: thanks it worked.
[11:27] <osfameron> khermans: aha.  For the LiveCD or for ubuntu in general?
[11:28] <khermans> osfameron, ubuntu
[11:28] <khermans> bot
[11:28] <khermans> both
[11:28] <herz1> inflex: that wouldn't allow this to be scripted, because the ipw3945 driver eg. doesn't print that it manages eth1
[11:28] <osfameron> khermans: ah... I thought it could run on a low memory system?
[11:28] <inflex> gorram it... why have I been suckered into the FF-X story / videos :(
[11:28] <herz1> a mapping eth<n> <-> pci-address would help, too
[11:28] <khermans> osfameron, look at the live cd requirements
[11:28] <inflex> why do they have to make those gaming girls look so good
[11:28] <Drakx_> osfameron: give xubuntu it may run better with such low specs POS
[11:28] <vwhydrowv> i got booted
[11:28] <osfameron> I understand the livecd not working, because it's mapping a pretend HD to the ram...
[11:29] <osfameron> Drakx_: good idea
[11:30] <osfameron> yay!  xubuntu requires 64Mb for the alternate installation CD
[11:30] <Drakx_> lol
[11:30] <elig> anyone able to ICS to a vista laptop over ad hoc
[11:31] <beni> What is the "normal" CPU temperature? My P4 HT is constantly @ 62°C
[11:31] <Drakx_> elig: I would not try any thing with vista thats just IMO
[11:31] <osfameron> Drakx_: hey, this PC was, er, middling spec when I bought it 8 years ago :-)
[11:31] <|ns|nR8> for an intel its prolly a little warm
[11:31] <Drakx_> osfameron: lmao
[11:32] <elig> i only need to connect to my ad hoc network
[11:32] <elig> with the vista box
[11:32] <Drakx_> elig: try #windows
[11:32] <beni> |ns|nR8, good point, next point :) How can I fix this? I cleaned up my FAN a dozen times, everything is ok
[11:32] <elig> i can do it with xp
[11:32] <alanbshepard70> can anyone help me with a bash script that uses gpg to encrypt all files in a directory one by one using the same passphrase?
[11:32] <uruca> hello, I created an Iso of a ntfs disk (perhaps with a damaged fs) with gnu ddrescue, but now i cannot mount it to browse and save my files
[11:33] <beni> alanbshepard70, better compress the files into a tarball and then gpg this one..
[11:33] <|ns|nR8> beni do you apply heat transfer paste ?
[11:33] <Drakx_> uruca: find gmountiso
[11:33] <Drakx_> its a gui to mounting iso files
[11:33] <beni> |ns|nR8, nope, never did so.. its an 3 year old retail pc
[11:33] <mandrill> I need to share a DVD writer with a windows machine and get it to recognize it as a DVD writer can this be done
[11:33] <beni> by at the beginning it was veery quiet
[11:33] <mandrill> Hi all btw, and happy new year :)
[11:33] <|ns|nR8> beni you will find if you get some paste it will drop 15 - 20 C
[11:34] <uruca> Drakx_, ok i'm installing it
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> thats if you remove the heatsink
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> without reapplying it
[11:34] <alanbshepard70> beni: I'm trying to avoid that since I would then have to decrypt and uncompress a huge blob of files when I really only want access to one specific file.
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> beni you got case fans ?
[11:34] <elig> Drakx_  its got to be some driver or config issue
[11:34] <dessnr> I don't know if anybody has noted this yet, but there is a bug while having effects turned on, whilst running skype.  I'm running Gutsy and when I have the effects on, it all works perfectly, except when I type in a skype chat window, my text does not show up until I click on the top of the chat window itself.  When I turn effects off, skypes chat window updates instantly as normal, with the text that I type.  I switched off wobble
[11:34] <dessnr>  and things like that singly but nothing helped.  When you turn effects totally off, and the screen flicks back to it's other mode, skype works as normal.  Anyone had this problem?  If not, where do I report the bug?  To skype or the Ubuntu team?
[11:34] <beni> |ns|nR8, so I should take away the fan, then the underlaying passive cooler and then put it on the cpu?
[11:35] <beni> nope I dont have any case fans, wait I'll pick a photo
[11:35] <elig> my wifi will scan air but all networks right here are encrypted
[11:35] <kazil> hi all. i`m trying to install alien-arena, i downloaded the alien-arena_6.10-2_i386.deb and alien-arena-data_6.10-2_all.deb files. i installed the second, but when i try to install the first it says: Dependency is not satisfiable: libkrb53. what should i do?
[11:35] <uruca> drakx_, consider i'm on the Ub.7.10 live cd
[11:35] <Drakx_> elig: I really have no idea, when i bought my laptop it had vista the first thing i did was format it and install linux
[11:35] <introduce> hi to the room..,if someone tries to modify the auth/message/..etc through the home directory will that also affect the system log contents?
[11:35] <elig> its not mine
[11:35] <|ns|nR8> go private beni
[11:36] <Drakx_> uruca: sorry remind me again?
[11:36] <Drakx_> the POS?
[11:36] <elig> i posted on LQ but i got no replies
[11:36] <wild_oscar> does anyone have a hint why Suspend only works 2 or 3 times on gutsy and doesn't work anymore afterwards?
[11:36] <dessnr> is all of my text showing?
[11:36] <dessnr> I don't know if anybody has noted this yet, but there is a bug while having effects turned on, whilst running skype.  I'm running Gutsy and when I have the effects on, it all works perfectly, except when I type in a skype chat window, my text does not show up until I click on the top of the chat window itself.  When I turn effects off, skypes chat window updates instantly as normal, with the text that I type.  I switched off wobble
[11:36] <dessnr>  and things like that singly but nothing helped.  When you turn effects totally off, and the screen flicks back to it's other mode, skype works as normal.  Anyone had this problem?  If not, where do I report the bug?  To skype or the Ubuntu team?
[11:36] <mandrill> The windows machine has no DVD drive and I need to install something from the a DVD
[11:37] <mandrill> I want the windows machine to treat the drive in the ubuntu machine as its own drive
[11:37] <uruca> drakx_, I created a iso image from an ntfs disk (probably with the fs damaged) and now i have to mount this iso to browse and save my files
[11:37] <bazhang> dessnr: effects in compiz? try #compiz-fusion
[11:37] <Drakx_> uruca: ah yea, gmountiso _should_ mount it?
[11:37] <kazil> hi all. i`m trying to install alien-arena, i downloaded the alien-arena_6.10-2_i386.deb and alien-arena-data_6.10-2_all.deb files. i installed the second, but when i try to install the first it says: Dependency is not satisfiable: libkrb53. what should i do?
[11:37] <uruca> drakx_, installed gmountiso. The command?
[11:37] <introduce> ...bump
[11:37] <dessnr> bazhang: what is compiz please?
[11:37] <Drakx_> Applications >> system >> gmountiso
[11:38] <Drakx_> use the GUI
[11:38] <bazhang> kazil: why not install from the repos?
[11:38] <bazhang> !info alien-arena
[11:38] <ubotu> alien-arena: Standalone 3D first person online deathmatch shooter. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 6.05-4.1 (gutsy), package size 637 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[11:38] <elig> dessnr compiz is a window manager
[11:38] <kazil> bazhang: i don`t have internet connection on that machine
[11:39] <bazhang> dessnr: effects is compiz-fusion; try #compiz-fusion
[11:39] <ljsmithx> http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx
[11:39] <ljsmithx> LOOK AT THAT!
[11:39] <ljsmithx> http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx
[11:39] <bazhang> ljsmithx: not in this channel
[11:39] <dessnr> bazhang: you mean in a terminal window?
[11:39] <ljsmithx> ok
[11:39] <ljsmithx> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:40] <scguy318> that'll do
[11:40] <bazhang> ljsmithx: try ##windows
[11:40] <uruca> drakx_, gmountiso: error!!!
[11:40] <counterpoint> hello  can  someone  assist me
[11:40] <bazhang> dessnr: no, effects on your desktop are compiz-fusion; try the channel I gave you
[11:40] <Drakx_> uruca: hmm have you tried google?
[11:41] <dessnr> bazhang: oh thanks, sorry mate i was confused.
[11:41] <bazhang> dessnr: no worries
[11:41] <kostebek> hey :) come back again
[11:41] <kostebek> From TürkiyE
[11:42] <uruca> drakx_, google? for what? searching other solutions? yes, i tried yet acetoneiso, but it not mounts my iso
[11:43] <counterpoint>  I can  not access the network configuration  from  xfce gui  I  type the password   and get " configuration could not be loaded
[11:43] <_Bart__> Can someone PLEASE help me, I can't do anything I only see the Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed!\
[11:43] <Drakx_> uruca: erm im not sure then
[11:43] <bazhang> counterpoint: network-manager?
[11:43] <counterpoint>  yes
[11:44] <mandrill> How do I get a windows installation disc to autoplay over a samba share?
[11:44] <uruca> drakx_, what's erm?
[11:44] <mandrill> (not for installing windows, the software is for windows)
[11:44] <bazhang> mandrill: connected to a ubuntu machne?
[11:44] <Drakx_> mandrill: you browse to the exe from windows
[11:44] <mandrill> yes
[11:44] <mandrill> I have tried that
[11:44] <Tyczek> I have problem: in live-cd boot-splash is working, when i boot from hdd it's not.
[11:45] <uchazco> I'm planning a clean install... but I want to back up some specific parts of Ubuntu... where are lauchers on the panel (like the firefox one) stored?
[11:45] <counterpoint>  I  was  able to access it once  then  next thing I knew  i had no access
[11:45] <mandrill> Drakx, I've shared the drive, and upoon opening there is no exe file. I juat tget the mac installation files. the windows files are invisible
[11:45] <counterpoint>  hello bazhang
[11:45] <elig> ok im getting a error 16 cant change to ad hoc mode
[11:46] <uruca> drakx_, i tried also whit gisomount ... nothing, and testdisk didn't find partitions on the iso, but on the physical disk it find
[11:46] <bazhang> not sure counterpoint; I;m on KDE; have you asked in #fluxbuntu
[11:46] <uruca> drakx_, just i cannot risk loose my files
[11:46] <_Bart__> PLEASE?
[11:46] <unikon>  i accidently  took the amarok icon off my ubuntu desktop (the one that stays up while playing media) and you could right click to show or hide the playlist window is there any way to recover that icon
[11:47] <Drakx_> uruca: i really dont know what to suggest
[11:47] <counterpoint>  what is  fluxubuntu
[11:47] <Drakx_> post it on the ubuntu forums and see what happens
[11:47] <Kalamansi> hello how to run eth0?
[11:47] <uruca> drakx_, thanks anyway
[11:47] <Drakx_> counterpoint: ubuntu but with fluxbox instead of the other *ubuntu's
[11:47] <rhizo> counterpoint: fluxbuntu, google it
[11:48] <gunja> Hi anyone know anything about xvidtune?
[11:48] <rhizo> Kalamansi: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:48] <lee_nd> NO
[11:48] <Drakx_> yw uruca, sorry i could not help more
[11:49] <Kalamansi> rhizo : root@lan-desktop:~# sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:49] <Kalamansi> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:49] <shadix> how can i make sure I have all the codecs i need to play vids
[11:49] <rhizo> Kalamansi: man ifconfig
[11:49] <rhizo> and drop the 'sudo', since you're root
[11:49] <beni_f> shadix, gstreamer* is the way to go
[11:49] <gunja> shadix: Any videos that can't be played?
[11:49] <burung_hitam><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:49] <counterpoint>  i not able to access any of my system applications.. is there a way to reset
[11:50] <shadix> have gstreamer but still nothing
[11:50] <shadix> WMV MPG don't play
[11:50] <Kalamansi> rhizo : same thine root@lan-desktop:~# ifconfig eth0 up
[11:50] <Kalamansi> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:50] <Kalamansi> thing*
[11:51] <lee_nd> ÄãÃÇºÃ
[11:51] <rhizo> Kalamansi: man ifconfig
[11:51] <gunja> shadix: Has it attempted to go and get updated codecs?
[11:51] <uruca> drakx_, now I try into debian channel, bye and thank you
[11:51] <rhizo> that entails actual READING, dude
[11:51] <rhizo> at least list your interfaces, geez
[11:51] <shadix> it?... gstreamer no it hasn't
[11:51] <jpnurmi> hi. after installing g++-4.2, what's the proper way to change /usr/bin/g++ to point to g++-4.2 instead of g++-4.1 ?
[11:52] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, that means you have no network card detected. And stop using a root shell
[11:52] <rhizo> usually, one makes a symbolic link, man ln, jpnurmi
[11:53] <PriceChild> !info g++
[11:53] <ubotu> g++: The GNU C++ compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:53] <rhizo> ln -s is your friend
[11:53] <PriceChild> jpiccolo, that's going to cause breakage if you're not careful
[11:54] <jpnurmi> rhizo: yeah, but usually one uses update-alternatives on ubuntu
[11:54] <rhizo> PriceChild:  there may be a network card detected other than eth0
[11:54] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : how to detect the network card?
[11:54] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, type "ifconfig" and see if anything is displayed other than lo
[11:55] <rhizo> jpnurmi:  probably does the same thing
[11:55] <rhizo> but yeah, use native tools if available
[11:55] <Kalamansi> eth1, eth2 and lo
[11:55] <Drakx_> then you dont have eth0
[11:55] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : eth1, eth2 and lo
[11:55] <rhizo> so why are you trying to use eth0
[11:55] <jpnurmi> that's why i used word "proper" ;)
[11:55] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, so use one of those
[11:56] <rhizo> so why are you trying to use eth0, Kalamansi ?
[11:56]  * PriceChild headdesks
[11:56] <xerxes1358> Hello
[11:56] <Kalamansi> rhizo : my firestarter is looking for eth0.. i dont know why
[11:56] <bazhang> hi xerxes1358
[11:56] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, because you told it to
[11:56] <xerxes1358> Is anyone here running Office 2007 in Linux ?
[11:56] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, change it in the preferences
[11:56] <buscogorditos> hi
[11:56] <PriceChild> xerophyte, microsoft office?
[11:56] <buscogorditos> any chubbie??
[11:57] <rhizo> no, don't touch anything, feed the dogs, log onto irc and make a fool of yourself
[11:57] <bazhang> xerxes1358: using wine or other emulation?
[11:57] <PriceChild> bazhang, wine is not an emulator
[11:57] <xerxes1358> bazhang, prefer wine because otherwise you have to work inside a emulator screen
[11:58] <buscogorditos> i wanna to chat whit a chubbie
[11:58] <prav33n> Hello
[11:58] <bazhang> PriceChild: my mistake :}
[11:58] <elig> anone got any idea on a wifi problem
[11:58] <buscogorditos> any chubbie????
[11:58] <prav33n> I have backed up one of my reiserfs partitions using partimage
[11:58] <bazhang> elig: what is the precise problem?
[11:58] <rhizo> jpnurmi: perhaps i should've guessed the context for your 'proper'
[11:58] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : detected is eth1 ... i dont know why when i run firestarter it ask eth0 ...
[11:58] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, change the dropdown in its preferences
[11:59] <prav33n> When I tried to restore the backup, I am getting an error stating that "Impossible to find a local check structure. Data may be damaged. Do you want to continue?"
[11:59] <elig> cant get connected to a ad hoc network
[11:59] <xerxes1358> no one has an idea ?
[11:59] <hypn0> should I keep gutsy-backports repo enabled, are updates there stable
[11:59] <prav33n> I am using partimage 0.6.6
[11:59] <prav33n> Anyone knows a workaround for this?
[11:59] <Kalamansi> PriceChild: Preferences , firewall , network settings?
[11:59] <mandrill> is there any way I can get my windows machine to see the drive in my ubuntu machine as its own drive?
[11:59] <prav33n> The backup constituted a multiple file image
[12:00] <mandrill> dvd drive that is
[12:01] <ehc> is there an automated shutdown tool for ubuntu?
[12:01] <rhizo> mandrill: samba would be the way to share linux resources on a windows network
[12:01] <jpnurmi> rhizo: i'm just afraid i will break the toolchain by modifying symlinks by hand
[12:01] <bazhang> xerxes1358: you might try crossover office for that, or just in a virtual machine with XP
[12:01] <rhizo> jpnurmi: totally
[12:01] <rhizo> go for the built-in
[12:01] <rhizo> why take chances ?
[12:02] <mandrill> yeah, but I want windows to see theand treat the drive as its own, like it was plugged into the windows machine
[12:02] <wild_oscar> anyone ever heard of suspend working two times and then stop working?
[12:03] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : what should be the name server? <dynamic> -- what to put there? the dns of my isp?
[12:03] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, you shouldn't have to put thatin
[12:03] <shadix> gnash isn't quite right i have you tube working but nothing eles,,,, and it's distorted hlp
[12:03] <jpnurmi> rhizo: well, the problem is, i can't find the proper alternative. there is "cpp" which points to "/usr/bin/cpp" and "c++" which points to "/usr/bin/c++" but no alternatives listed for gcc or g++
[12:03] <Tequil> Hi, I am pretty new to Linux / Ubuntu and I run into a little problem: on my server I have added myself to a group and ever since I cannot use the sudo command anymore, is there someone who can help me?
[12:03] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : ah so i will use Keep existing dhcp config then?
[12:04] <emeline> salut
[12:04] <rhizo> jpnurmi:  baring alternatives, i'd try the ln -s trick
[12:04] <bazhang> hi emeline
[12:06] <Shyde> Tequil: when you run "id" from the terminal, does it list you as member of the "admin" group?
[12:06] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, yes
[12:06] <Tequil> Shyde: let me try, one second
[12:07] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : now i have problem.. pc2 have no internet connection now..tho i can ping the <IP_ADDRESS> nic
[12:07] <xerxes1358> bazhang, how about itunes?
[12:07] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: wine /path/to/itunes
[12:07] <bazhang> xerxes1358: via wine? you can ask in #winehq
[12:08] <wild_oscar> can anyone ping and browse www.abola.pt ?
[12:08] <Tyczek> how can I unbind "menu"-key?
[12:08] <Tequil> Shyde: no it doesn't only the "mvanbeusekom" group (which is my user) and the new group I added (development)
[12:08] <jaggy> i know this ain't the right channel, but since here are the smartest people: where should i learn perl coding ?
[12:09] <Drakx_> jaggy: the perl docs?
[12:09] <rhizo> mandrill,  you'd try mounting your dvd and see if you can share the mount point via ubuntu's intuitive sharing interface, but i never done it
[12:09] <Drakx_> always a good place to start ;)
[12:09] <jaggy> eh and where are they Drakx_
[12:09] <jaggy> :p
[12:09] <Drakx_> well i would say perl.org
[12:09] <Shyde> Tequil: there should be a bunch of other groups, how did you add yourself to that group?
[12:09] <jaggy> ty
[12:10] <Drakx_> yw
[12:10] <humbolto> I am using envy for the latest nvidia driver. Now, when I am trying to start Desktop Effects, restricted manager wants to install nvidia-glx-new. How to circumvent this?
[12:10] <plutarcus> hi all
[12:10] <wols>  !envy
[12:10] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:10] <wols> humbolto: look that the "not supported" part
[12:10] <astro76> jaggy, perhaps ask in #perl
[12:10] <Tequil> Shyde: I have used the following command: usermod -G development mvanbeusekom
[12:10] <jaggy> ty astro76 :p
[12:10] <rhizo> jaggy:  ask in #perl and you will be given a wealth of learning resources quickly
[12:10] <ere4si> I searched everywhere for an answer to this - I compiled my first kernel today and it added 1.5g to my system - is this normal?t
[12:10] <plutarcus> i'm having some troubles with Virtualbox
[12:10] <plutarcus> can someone help me?
[12:10] <Tequil> Shyde: I got this command from the book "Ubuntu unleashed"
[12:11] <wols> ere4si: you mean used diskspace?
[12:11] <mandrill> Rhizo: I can see the disc and have sgha4ed it via samba so the data is there. the thing is that it must have some sort of OS detection on it so I can't see the windows installation files only the Mac ones
[12:11] <rhizo> also, run "perldoc perl" ( install perldoc if needed )
[12:11] <mandrill> *shared
[12:11] <plutarcus> this is the problem
[12:11] <ere4si> wols: yep
[12:11] <Tidus> mandrill: what disk is this you're trying to read?
[12:11] <plutarcus> when i start the virtual machine
[12:11] <wols> ere4si: normal. sourcode takes lot of room
[12:11] <plutarcus> i can see
[12:11] <rhizo> mandrill:  how's that ubuntu related ?
[12:11] <humbolto> wols: don't see not "not supported" part?
[12:11] <wols> !enter | plutarcus
[12:11] <ubotu> plutarcus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:12] <ere4si> wols: suprised it was so much
[12:12] <astro76> Tequil, that command replaces your entire group membership with what you list after -G, you needed -Ga
[12:12] <humbolto> wols: ah
[12:12] <wols> humbolto: envy is not supported here. ask elsewhere
[12:12] <Shyde> Tequil: I'm not too familiar with user and group management but seems it overwrote all groups and only added those 2
[12:12] <mandrill> the drive I'm trying to use in is a ubuntu machine
[12:12] <astro76> Tequil, also it's supposed to be group1,group2,group3 ...commas and no spaces
[12:13] <Tidus> mandrill: i run into that when I try to install world of warcraft in wine
[12:13] <astro76> Tequil, here is a list of default groups in Ubuntu so you can fix it: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[12:13] <astro76> Tequil, plus a group with the same name as your user
[12:13] <LuitvD> hi
[12:13] <Drakx_> hi
[12:13] <xerxes1358> Does Ubuntu/Linux has automatic support for Intel Wireless ?
[12:13] <Shyde> astro76: how can he add them when he doesn't have sudo rights anymore? Reboot into recovery?
[12:13] <plutarcus> ok, sorry. When i start the virtual machine, i can see this error: VirtualBox kernel driver not installed
[12:13] <plutarcus> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root.
[12:13] <plutarcus> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[12:13] <plutarcus> Codice&nbspd'uscita:
[12:13] <plutarcus> 0x80004005
[12:13] <plutarcus> Componente:
[12:13] <plutarcus> Console
[12:13] <plutarcus> Interfaccia:
[12:13] <plutarcus> IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}
[12:13] <wols> !paste | plutarcus
[12:13] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : ps2 wont connect now to internet =/
[12:13] <ubotu> plutarcus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <plutarcus>
[12:13] <Drakx_> ubuntu does support ipw3945 its what im using now
[12:14] <jscinoz> is there a reason the nvidia-glx-new package is months out of date?
[12:14] <LuitvD> Does anybody know how long it'll take for Transmission 1.00 to get through in the Repositories?
[12:14] <Tidus> mandrill: the "ugly" way around it is to put the cd in, then open a terminal, go root (sudo -i), unmount the disk
[12:14] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, are you talking to me?
[12:14] <Drakx_> yes sorry xerxes1358
[12:14] <Tequil> astro76: I guess I need to be root user (or have su rights) to add myself to these groups'
[12:14] <Tidus> mandrill: then "mount -t iso9660 <path to cd drive> <where do you want to mount it>"
[12:14] <OD810> hi there
[12:14] <Tidus> that gave me the windows files instead of the mac ones
[12:14] <OD810> can anyone help me with configuring ATI Driver?
[12:14] <astro76> Shyde, Tequil yeah if you don't have any users with sudo access anymore, you will need to boot into recovery mode or with a livecd, and edit /etc/group adding your username to all the required group lines
[12:15] <mandrill> tidus: thanks I'll give that a go
[12:15] <plutarcus> ok, this is the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50844/
[12:15] <LuitvD> Does anybody know how long it'll take for Transmission 1.00 to get through in the Repositories?
[12:15] <Tequil> astro76, Shyde: great thank you very much for the help
[12:15] <OD810> I have a problem with my screen resolution with ATI Driver
[12:15] <Drakx_> LuitvD: no, download and compile it if you need it
[12:16] <OD810> can anyone help me please?
[12:16] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, so I install Ubuntu and the wireless configuration goes automatically? I remember some dude running linux had to use special software fiddeling around for 20 minutes just to get online
[12:16] <Tequil> astro76: I am going to try it out right now, you are a live safer ;)
[12:16] <squigly> od810: what's your prob?
[12:16] <Kalamansi> hello i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> my server ubuntu p1.but ping yahoo is not working with pc2
[12:16] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: install ubuntu then look at network-manager ;)
[12:16] <LuitvD> Drakx_: Okay... it's a shame the Repos have such an old version...
[12:16] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, I want to make sure before I start installing :D
[12:16] <OD810> squigly: i have 22" monitor but i cant get 1680x1050 resolution
[12:17] <plutarcus> when i search that package in Synaptic, i find two package, with the same name, one is installed, the other not
[12:17] <OD810> squigly: i'm using ATI driver installed via Envy
[12:17] <Drakx_> whats the intel wireless card? xerxes1358
[12:17] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: infact use the live cd then take a look at network-manager
[12:17] <Drakx_> you will know from there
[12:17] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, I dont know to be sure I have a Intel Centrino laptop with built in wireless card
[12:17] <squigly> 0d810: Sorry dude, this one isn't up my alley.
[12:18] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, yeah thats a excellent idea
[12:18] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: use the live cd!
[12:18] <OD810> squigly: it's alrite
[12:18] <OD810> squigly: thanks anyway
[12:18] <gahan> i'm using flash9 on gutsy and videos played for ex. on youtube are sometimes lagging, audio is fine, it's just the video, any idea?
[12:18] <bazhang> !envy | OD810
[12:18] <ubotu> OD810: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:18] <Rudd-O> hello guys
[12:19] <Rudd-O> I'm trying to get pulseaudio 0.9.8 for hardy, but compiled on gutsy
[12:19] <Rudd-O> how do I find the source deb package to recompile? and how do I recompile it?
[12:19] <OD810> ubotu: I've the driver installed properly already but the screen resolution just does not work at its max resolution
[12:19] <Rudd-O> where
[12:19] <Rudd-O> and how
[12:19] <PriceChild> !hardy | Rudd-O
[12:19] <ubotu> Rudd-O: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:19] <Drakx_> OD810: ubotu is a bot ;)
[12:19] <Rudd-O> I use GUTSY not hardy
[12:19] <Rudd-O> plus ubuntu+1 is empty
[12:19] <OD810> Drakx_: i just realised
[12:19] <Drakx_> lol
[12:20] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, we give suppose for gutsy here. not gutsy and hardy packages, gutsy.
[12:20] <OD810> Drakx_: do you know how to get 1680 x 1050 resolution with ATI driver
[12:20] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: I don't want gutsy support, I want a hyperlink where I can download the source package for gutsy, and maybe instructions on how to build a deb
[12:20] <Rudd-O> replace gutsy for hardy in that sntence
[12:20] <Rudd-O> I run gutsy here
[12:20] <OD810> Drakx_: i've changed the xorg.conf but it does not seem to work
[12:20] <Drakx_> OD810: sorry i dont i use a laptop with intel graphics
[12:20] <OD810> damn
[12:20] <Drakx_> OD810: did you restart x?
[12:21] <Tidus> Drakx_: he's looking for ati help, not intel graphics...
[12:21] <OD810> Drakx_: i did
[12:21] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : pc1 ubuntu server have internet connection. modem>server ubuntu pc1 > switch > pc2 .. pc2 have no internet connection now after running firestarter ...
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, so why mention hardy?
[12:21] <Drakx_> Tidus: i know, but im telling him i cannot help since i use intel not ati
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, apt-get source <packagename>
[12:21] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: just because I want to be accurate that I want the PA source package for hardy
[12:21] <Tidus> oh. sorry, misread
[12:21] <OD810> Tidus: you got solution?
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, add a -b for it to build automatically for YOU
[12:21] <Tidus> OD810: have you tried using fglrxconfig ?
[12:21] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: apt-get source won't work because I only have the gutsy repos in my machine
[12:21] <Drakx_> Tidus: tis ok
[12:21] <PriceChild> gah caps
[12:21] <bidossessi> hi folks. new ubuntu user here; here is my cse: i have a 8OG  music and 160G video desktop that i want to use as a media center for my house. what are my options. i don't need TV support and all that
[12:22] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, packages.ubuntu.com then
[12:22] <Rudd-O> and I don't want to ad the hardy repos because I'm happy with gutsy
[12:22] <OD810> Tidus: Have not tried, try it now
[12:22] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, or add the gutsy repo
[12:22] <bazhang> OD810: use the recommended method NOT envy
[12:22] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: thanks
[12:22] <Rudd-O> btw what's envy
[12:22] <Tidus> bazhang: if i remember right, fglrxconfig is the recommended way
[12:22] <OD810> Rudd-O: an easy way to install ati driver
[12:22] <Tidus> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:22] <Rudd-O> does envy work fine?
[12:23] <OD810> Rudd-O: work fine except for resolution
[12:23] <Rudd-O> i have the standard ati driver with an R100 chip, which driver do you recommend to speed it up?
[12:23] <plutarcus> yes, and it's italian :D
[12:23] <bazhang> Tidus: I believe you are correct
[12:23] <wols> !envy | Rudd-O
[12:23] <ubotu> Rudd-O: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:23] <bidossessi> anyone?
[12:23] <wols> Rudd-O: there is none
[12:23] <Tidus> Rudd-O: R100... is that the radeon 7500?
[12:23] <wols> you already hve the fastest
[12:23] <Rudd-O> Tidus: yes I think, I have an ati mobility radeon XXXXM on my dell server
[12:24] <Tidus> Rudd-O: hm... my laptop has the 7500M in it
[12:24] <OD810> Rudd-O: as far as i can tell Envy has installed the ATi driver properly cos i got compiz and everything else working fine
[12:24] <bidossessi> hi folks. new ubuntu user here; here is my cse: i have a 8OG  music and 160G video desktop that i want to use as a media center for my house. what are my options? i don't need TV support and all that
[12:24] <OD810> except for the damn resolution
[12:24] <Kalamansi> hello my pc1 server ubuntu have internet but pc2 have no internet after i run firestarter..i need help please...
[12:25] <Rudd-O> compiz works too slowly here
[12:25] <Tidus> yeah, that's due to underpowered video card
[12:25] <wols> OD810: it doesn't you will have problems when upgrading. but talk about evny is OT here, so please doN't do it and don't ask or give any help using envy here
[12:25] <wild_oscar> anyone ever heard of suspend working two times and then stop working?
[12:25] <Tidus> Rudd-O: i wouldn't enable compiz on anything less than an nvidia 6600 or radeon x600
[12:25] <wols> Kalamansi: why do you need firestarter?
[12:26] <Kalamansi> wols : to monitor my workstations, what website they visit and if its illegal i will block?
[12:26] <Kalamansi> wols : like video streaming
[12:27] <hypn0> wols: what do you suggest
[12:27] <wols> Kalamansi: censorship is futile and simply stupid. especially if the part that censors is on the same machine
[12:27] <Rudd-O> ok got the link for the .dsc file
[12:27] <Rudd-O> how do I build it?
[12:27] <wols> hypn0: suggest for what?
[12:27] <wols> Rudd-O: dsc files can't be built. they're DeSCriptions
[12:27] <Rudd-O> wols: ok, how do I build the source then?
[12:27] <hypn0> wols: is a firewall pointless :-/
[12:27] <Rudd-O> not with configure make but with debuild and stuff
[12:28] <wols> rob: for what?
[12:28] <wols> hypn0: yes
[12:28] <wols> Rudd-O: build what?
[12:28] <hypn0> wols: even a hardware  one?
[12:28] <Hristo> Hello, is there any simple way in a shell script to transform a string from "file to read" in "file\ to\ read"?
[12:28] <wols> hypn0: we're not talking hardware here. we talk about firestarter
[12:29] <Rudd-O> wols build the package I downloded!
[12:29] <Rudd-O> (the source and diff and dsc)
[12:29] <wols> Rudd-O: and the package's name is?
[12:29] <Rudd-O> pulseaudio
[12:30] <wols> apt-get source pulseaudio
[12:30] <wols> add a "-b" if you wish
[12:30] <Rudd-O> what part of "apt-get source pulseaudio will build 0.9.7, NOT 0,.9.8" didn't I explain?
[12:30] <hypn0> wols: how do I find out what's using the connection then
[12:30] <dell_lin> how to download a file with url proxy or username and passwd in url ,from wget or with some other command
[12:30] <dell_lin> like this one [12:31] <wols> hypn0: netstat, iptraf, ntop, etc. now stop the pointless questions pleae
[12:31] <dell_lin> there are more content in url i just added some
[12:31] <wols> *please
[12:31] <Drakx_> dell_lin: man wget
[12:31] <Hristo> Hello, is there any simple way in a shell script to transform a string from "file to read" in "file\ to\ read"?
[12:31] <Rudd-O> hello there?
[12:31] <xerxes1358> What software do you guys use to manage and synchronize your iPods in linux ??
[12:31] <Rudd-O> Hristo: no idea
[12:32] <Rudd-O> xerxes1358: amarok
[12:32] <wols> xerxes1358: lots use gtkpod I think
[12:32] <bazhang> xerxes1358: amarok
[12:32] <xerxes1358> does amarok fully support iPod ?
[12:32] <Rudd-O> xerxes1358: afaik yes
[12:32] <xerxes1358> sweet
[12:32] <cyberix> How do I set Abiword to be the default over OO.Org writer?ä
[12:33] <elig> anyone able to ad hoc with a vista laptop
[12:33] <bazhang> xerxes1358: want a link?
[12:33] <hyua> hi, i use feisty, how do i custmomise my desktop to look like Vista?
[12:33] <elig> to ubuntu desktop
[12:33] <Drakx_> elig: use #windows
[12:34] <bazhang> haha
[12:34] <Sanyika> lol
[12:34] <elig> its not a windows problem
[12:34] <xerxes1358> Am I restricted to use KDE if I want amarok? I like to use Gnome.
[12:34] <bazhang> xerxes1358: you can mix and match
[12:34] <Skitt> you can use amarok with gnome
[12:34] <elig> i cant set up the ad hoc in ubuntu
[12:34] <Hristo> hyua, what do you mean ? You want the desktop effects ?
[12:35] <bazhang> elig: ad hoc wireless mode?
[12:36] <vwhydrowv> question, in ubuntu, how do you add items to the menu for special commands, or is this possible?
[12:37] <elig> i need to have it set like this (cable modem->wired router->ubuntu 7.10->ad hoc to vista)
[12:37] <elig> i cant get the adhoc to connect either way
[12:37] <Kalamansi> ok. wols . i disable the firestarter. but still i cannot connect pc2 to the internet.. before, i can connect it without running firestarter. after i run firestarter (like we configured by PrinceChild) now pc2 cannot connect to the internet
[12:37] <bazhang> elig: you want ubuntu box to server as a wireless access point?
[12:38] <elig> basically
[12:38] <bazhang> elig: any reason not to use ethernet for the vixta machine?
[12:39] <elig> its a laptop
[12:39] <Tequil> astro76: it worked using the rescue mode from the cd-rom, thanks a million
[12:39] <bazhang> elig: so no reason?
[12:39] <elig> plus my house is only wired for my two machones
[12:39] <astro76> Tequil, you're welcome
[12:39] <elig> machines
[12:40] <elig> i dont have any wires for ethernet
[12:40] <bazhang> elig: ethernet is quite cheap these days; is that the main hindrance?
[12:40] <elig> ive had this running when the ubuntu box runs xp pro
[12:40] <elig> no
[12:41] <Drakx_> elig: have you tried google?
[12:41] <elig> it my friends laptop its temporary
[12:41] <TheMafia> Can I get a more verbose log when using nm-applet and trying to estabalish a pptp tunnel?
[12:41] <elig> yes
[12:41] <elig> google is not my friend on this
[12:41] <bazhang> elig: never heard of this--you may want to post on the forums or get a router that has both wired and wireless
[12:42] <elig> yeah i got no replies in a week
[12:42] <elig> and im not buying more crap when this works in winblows
[12:43] <elig> 802.11 says that you can ad hoc with out a access point
[12:43] <bazhang> elig: how temporary?
[12:43] <Rudd-O> elig: true
[12:43] <Kalamansi> ill try to reboot
[12:43] <elig> as long as hes here
[12:43] <Enselic> !flash > Enselic
[12:43] <elig> ive had this up for like a week in xp pro
[12:44] <elig> ive set everything i can from ifconfig and iwconfig
[12:44] <aspin65100> gave up trying to solve my xserver problems and have gone back to SuSE
[12:44] <bazhang> elig: umm no idea, sorry.
[12:45] <elig> if i can get the two to connect i thinki can make it from there bc its just iptables
[12:45] <elig> after that
[12:45] <wols> elig: iptables has nothing to do with your problem, ever
[12:45] <elig> i can see the network
[12:45] <bazhang> elig: keep asking here--you may get lucky :}
[12:46] <wols> define "see the network"
[12:46] <Enselic> When I type about:plugins in firefox it appears as if many plugins can handle flv files, but I want the Adobes Flash 9 player should. How can I make sure that a particular plugin is what firefox uses to play flash files?
[12:46] <elig> wols my prob is not being able to connect to a ad hoc
[12:47] <elig> iptables to shae the connection
[12:47] <elig> share
[12:47] <elig> i need more root beer
[12:48] <zezelle> bonjour a vous
[12:48] <bazhang> elig: sorry I misunderstood--you want to use the ubuntu machine as a hotspot, correct?
[12:48] <elig> yes
[12:48] <zezelle> vous parler francais
[12:49] <elig> i cant either wifis to connect to another
[12:49] <humbolto> how to get the latest nvidia drivers and not break restricted-manager in conjunction with desktop-effects?
[12:49] <bazhang> !fr | zezelle
[12:49] <ubotu> zezelle: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:49] <zezelle> lien pour la france
[12:49] <elig> i can see the ad hoc on both ends but not connect
[12:50] <bazhang> is that even possible with ubuntu?
[12:50] <Shyde> elig: http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/216/hustle-ad-hoc-wireless-connections-from-linux-to-windows/ the part after the first command seems interesting
[12:50] <Shyde> Though that guy uses the network manager, don't know if you did
[12:50] <xerxes1358> I want to read the installation manuals where are they located ?
[12:51] <astro76> !install | xerxes1358
[12:51] <ubotu> xerxes1358: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:51] <xerxes1358> thanks
[12:52] <wols> elig: if XP does ICS you will need no iptables whatsoever
[12:53] <Shyde> he wants his ubuntu machine to do the sharing
[12:55] <idefix_> so how much cooler is efty than dapper?
[12:55] <bidossessi> would it be possible to use mythtv backend without the tv tuner stuff? i just need it for my personal video and music collection
[12:56] <elkbuntu> idefix_, edgy is two versions old now. gutsy gibbon is the newest
[12:56] <vince_> join #sy@QuakeNet
[12:57] <xerxes1358> When is the new ubuntu coming out ?
[12:57] <astro76> !hardy | xerxes1358 every 6 months
[12:57] <ubotu> xerxes1358 every 6 months: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:57] <xerxes1358> Thanks again
[12:58] <Attileri> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[12:58] <wols> bidossessi: afaik yes
[12:59] <bidossessi> thx
[12:59] <Ximal> morning all
[13:00] <crocd> hiall, I cannot get my mythtv username to work on mthweb, I have rechecked all my passwords and reset them.It still does not acceptthe password I gave it. The  mysql htaccess and all others are the same.
[13:00] <elig> ok back for more
[13:01] <elig> im sharing the connection from this ubuntu box
[13:01] <elig> it dual boots xp
[13:01] <wols> elig: can your XP ping your ubuntu?
[13:01] <elig> it works in xp
[13:01] <elig> its the same box
[13:01] <Ximal> croc ..
[13:01] <wols> elig: either you have two computers or NAT is nonsesnse
[13:02] <|ns|nR8> i shared an xp box connection to ubuntu
[13:02] <Ximal> crocd setup a seperate mysql username and login... i had the same issue with mysql before
[13:02] <wols> can the 2nd computer ping the first one? yes or no?
[13:02] <elig> but no i cant ping the laptop
[13:02] <aladdinsane> i have an annoying problem with filebrowsers (Thunar,Nautilus) when i try to open a folder on Disk A, Disk B and C always power up as well, is there a way/filebrowser that doesnt do this?
[13:02] <crocd> Ximal: OKi will try that.
[13:02] <Ximal> what are you trying to do crocd /
[13:02] <Ximal> ?
[13:02] <wols> elig: then iptables is irrelevant. what WLAN card is in your ubuntu and what driver do you use?
[13:03] <elig> its a belkinf5d7050
[13:03] <elig> using rt2x00usb
[13:03] <wols> elig: and that uses what wlan CHIP?
[13:03] <Ximal> oh yeah... to test out the issue crocd : go to add remove and download a mysql front end ... to test ur login and password visually and not just from prompt...
[13:03] <elig> ralink
[13:03] <elig> 2x00
[13:03] <elig> i cant remember
[13:03] <elig> it scans the air
[13:04] <Kalamansi> hello pc1 server ubuntu have internet connection..modem>server pc1 ubuntu>switch>pc2..pc2 have no internet connection but i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>..eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[13:04] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:04] <elig> i get an AP from my neighbors but it a secure connection
[13:05] <eid> i have ad-hoc network of 2 ubuntu laptops, one of them is connected to internet, how can i connect the another one ?
[13:05] <void^> i think the rt2x00 driver in gutsy has some problems, it has never worked properly with any of my devices, both pci and usb. had to use the legacy driver instead.
[13:06] <vzduch> hi
[13:06] <vzduch> anyone know why a VirtualBox pkg that's listed w/ dpkg -l could not be removed using dpkg -e?  error says unable to read archive
[13:06] <elig> void wheres the legacy driver
[13:07] <void^> the ones on rt2x00.serialmonkey.com
[13:07] <crocd> Ximal: noluck I changed the username in password in the mysql.txt and restarted apache and mysql.  still no luck
[13:07] <Ximal> ok..
[13:07] <Ximal> hold on.. 1 moment croc
[13:07] <elig> oh a souce build
[13:07] <catia> flash
[13:08] <idefix_> elkbuntu is it worth upgrading?
[13:08] <Ximal> crocd : go to add remove and install MySql Administrator ...
[13:08] <Ximal> crocd : also you need to do a stop before you alter mysql server files and then a restart of the service to initiate and complete any changes in the files ..
[13:09] <crocd> Ximal: brb
[13:09] <Ximal> ok
[13:09] <elkbuntu> idefix_, if you have been happy with the LTS system, then waiting another few months and upgrading from LTS to LTS is worthwhile
[13:09] <Kalamansi> hello need help...i cannot connect pc2 to the internet....
[13:09] <elkbuntu> idefix_, otherwise, you'll be doing 3 upgrades or a complete reinstall
[13:09] <idefix_> I now have Dapper yeah \o/ :D
[13:10] <wols> Kalamansi: pc1 is running what?
[13:10] <Ximal> kalamansi are you on a router ?
[13:10] <Kalamansi> wols : pc1 (which im using it now which is the server)
[13:10] <bazhang> Kalamansi: pc2? what is on this system, and how are you trying to connect?
[13:10] <Kalamansi> Ximal : no i dont have router.
[13:10] <wols> Kalamansi: answer my question
[13:10] <Kalamansi> bazhang : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[13:10] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <Ximal> Then what are you doing ? using 2 nic cards to share the connection ?
[13:11] <Kalamansi> wols : pc1 is running as server ubuntu 7.10 .. modem>server pc1 ubuntu>switch>pc2
[13:11] <Ximal> Ok first off kalamansi ; do not use dual 192 addresses for the different nick cards ..
[13:11] <idefix_> elkbuntu, the last command I ran was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:11] <Ximal> Let the first card draw the ip address of your internet connection..
[13:11] <wols> Kalamansi: does pc1 haev 2 network cards or network interfaces?
[13:11] <idefix_> if I do that a couple more times, nothing can go wrong right?
[13:12] <Ximal> Second Kalamansi : you will need to not try and use any dhcp since you will be SHARING the service and not actuall BE the service of internet..
[13:12] <Ximal> So you will want to setup like a 101.1.5.x
[13:12] <Ximal> not a 192.x.x.x
[13:12] <Kalamansi> wols : 2 nics. 1 is built-in. and 2 is cnet
[13:12] <elkbuntu> idefix_, that will only take you up one version at a time. if you wait for Hardy to be released, you'll be able to go up 4 versions at once
[13:12] <Ximal> this way you don't get your system confused ... Don't setup dhcp either... Just set the second dhcp to be shared ..
[13:12] <Ximal> errr set the second NIC to be shared..
[13:13] <Ximal> nic 1 = internet connection nic 2 = specified ip address set by you and shared with network as internet connection for any other system ..
[13:13] <cvasilak> is there anyone that successfully connects wirelessly using an atheros 5418 chipset?
[13:13] <wols> Kalamansi: is ipmasq installed on pC1?
[13:13] <idefix_> but I cannot burn a DVD or CD on my PC
[13:13] <idefix_> upgrading only takes 10 mins per version
[13:13] <Kalamansi> wols : let me tell you what i did first
[13:13] <bazhang> cvasilak: is that the atheros_swan?
[13:15] <cvasilak> bazhang, its an atheros 5418 chipset, i use the latest svn for madwifi, it brings up ath0 interface but it can associate with the access point so dhclient fails to acquire ip address
[13:15] <Kalamansi> wols : sudo ifconfig eth2 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:16] <xerxes1358> Do you guys know what Linux REALLY needs in 2008 ?
[13:16] <mandrill> tidus, that did it thanks very much :D
[13:16] <wols> Kalamansi: stupid way to do it. insecure too
[13:16] <bazhang> cvasilak: have you tried setting it manually?
[13:16] <wols> Kalamansi: you edit your /etc/network/interfaces  for static IP, then install ipmasq and you are done
[13:16] <fsckr> xerxes1358, better sound support?
[13:16] <fsckr> LOL
[13:16] <xerxes1358> fsckr, yeah that too
[13:16] <eid> how to share internet connection over ad-hoc
[13:16] <eid> ?
[13:16] <xerxes1358> but really important
[13:16] <Tidus> mandrill: not a problem
[13:16] <wols> eid: do you have a connection via ad hoc already?
[13:17] <xerxes1358> INTEGRATED VM Ware support like VM Ware FUSION on Mac os X!!!
[13:17] <xerxes1358> now thats what really is important
[13:17] <cvasilak> bazhang, i tried iwconfig ath0 essid linksys to set the essid and then run dhclient, i am not using any wep or wpa
[13:17] <Tidus> xerxes1358: but, that integrated vmware support relies on those core2duo chips having intel's VT technology in it
[13:17] <Kalamansi> wols : i dont have static ip. its dynamic.my isp gave me an antena and login pass. when i login to the internet i just browse any website and it point me to their website then login...
[13:17] <vwhydrowv> im getting failted to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/  on almost every update when i check for updates, any suggestions?
[13:17] <Tidus> that's how it runs
[13:17] <xerxes1358> And by integrated I mean that you dont have to work in a small stupid vm ware screen but that the apps are integrated and all the menus etc..
[13:18] <eid> wols , yes. i have to laptops running ubuntu 7.10 , one of them connected by on eth0 to adsl-modem
[13:18] <wols> Kalamansi: your LAN ip will be static
[13:18] <wols> eid: on the one with the modem: install ipmasq
[13:18] <xerxes1358> Tidus, yes but if you have core2duo and Linux you still dont have integrated menus
[13:18] <Tidus> xerxes1358: true, but they'll never implement that until at least 90% of computers out there running linux are core duo or better
[13:18] <xerxes1358> like VM Fusion
[13:19] <Tidus> i still got a pair of pentium 2s running linux
[13:19] <vwhydrowv> nm, router is down
[13:19] <xerxes1358> Tidus, lots of them are already.
[13:19] <^^gabriel^^> Guess that rules out my pentium II 400.
[13:19] <Kalamansi> wols : this is my pico /etc/network/interfaces  "auto lo
[13:19] <Kalamansi> iface lo inet loopback"
[13:19] <Tidus> and what about those of us who have semi-recent hardware, but doesn't have hardware virtualization support?
[13:19] <Tidus> like my p4 laptop
[13:19] <xerxes1358> ^^gabriel^^, the P2 was actually quiet a good cpu in his time :) I had one too
[13:20] <^^gabriel^^> I have several.
[13:20] <xerxes1358> remember upgrading from 350 to 400 !
[13:20] <astro76> !ot
[13:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:20] <eid> wols, what i have to do ?
[13:20] <xerxes1358> what boost in those times :D ^^gabriel^^
[13:20] <wols> Kalamansi: yes and it is wrong. you lack entries for eth0. and it's not even a ubuntu made interfaces wifle
[13:20] <^^gabriel^^> My first was apple II+.
[13:20] <wols> eid: I already told you
[13:20] <vzduch> problem solved, thx anyway
[13:20] <Kalamansi> wols how to correct that?
[13:21] <eid> wols, i installed ipmasq
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: by adding a static IP for your eth0
[13:21] <xerxes1358> Hardware will follow software You build the functionality support and people will buy hardware for it.
[13:21] <wols> eid: then you should be done if your static IPs are set up correctly
[13:21] <xerxes1358> ok guys my ubuntu cd is freshly toased
[13:21] <xerxes1358> wish me luck installing ununtu
[13:21] <Kalamansi> wols what is the cheat sheet command for adding?
[13:21] <^^gabriel^^> 'luck'
[13:21] <wols> mandrill: there is none
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: there is none
[13:21] <Kalamansi> all i know is this sudo ifconfig eth2 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: man interfaces
[13:22] <wols> Kalamansi: repeating it won't make it better
[13:22] <xerxes1358> How long does the install take btw?
[13:22] <xerxes1358> on a coreduo 1.6ghz 1gb
[13:22] <wols> Kalamansi: and just blindly following a howto on the net you found isn't a good solution either
[13:22] <Tidus> i remember a while back an old debian script that's in the repos that can do that for you...
[13:22] <Tidus> just cant remember what the name of it was
[13:22] <Tidus> set up ipmasq and forwarding for you
[13:22] <xerxes1358> .
[13:22] <th0r> wolsm actually they were commands given to him earlier this morning here
[13:23] <wols> Tidus: it's called "ipmasq"
[13:23] <wols> th0r: doesn't make it any better either
[13:23] <Tidus> ah yes, that one
[13:23] <th0r> wols :)
[13:23] <Tidus> xerxes1358: about 30 minutes
[13:23] <^^gabriel^^> xerxes did you checksum the download b4 you burned the iso?
[13:23] <Kalamansi> wols : can i just copy the sample of man interfaces and put it in /etc/network/interfaces ? im not good in command typos and scripting...
[13:24] <mandrill> wols eh?
[13:24] <wols> mandrill: wrong key, sorry
[13:24] <mandrill> wols: heh np. :)
[13:25] <^^gabriel^^> look at it this way, my keyboard has mostly 'wrong' keys at any given moment.
[13:25] <Kalamansi> wols : any cheat sheet for this?
[13:26] <wols> yes. man interfaces is a great cheat sheet
[13:26] <bidossessi> i see there's a mythbuntu iso. anyone knows if i could run it without a tuner card?
[13:26] <eid> wols, the ad-hoc network does not any more
[13:26] <Lupin^> How do i activate window switching with ALT+TAB in ubuntu? It doesn't work here when i set visual effects to "None"... with visual effects it works
[13:27] <bidossessi> the thing is that i don't have internet access at home, so i have to take back something that just works
[13:27] <wols> eid: this sentence no verb
[13:27] <Kalamansi> wols is it ok to copy the sample?
[13:27] <TonKi> Lupin^: have a look in preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[13:27] <wols> Kalamansi: unlikely
[13:27] <Kalamansi> wols im not good in scripting... =/
[13:28] <wols> this is not scripting. and I don't do handholding
[13:28] <bazhang> bidossessi: try geexbox
[13:29] <th0r> wols I see you have caught up with some of us <smile>
[13:29] <Tidus> wols: and apparently you don't do much answering either...
[13:29] <Kalamansi> th0r : the one that you did together with bulmer is working lately..but when i reboot pc2 cannot connect internet anymore =/
[13:29] <wols> Tidus: if you've been around some time you knew I do answer a lot
[13:30] <wols> but I don't like people who want to have done everything for them. if they are that lazy and unwilling to elar: hire a conslutant
[13:30] <bazhang> Tidus: more than most actually
[13:30] <wols> *unwilling to learn
[13:30] <^^gabriel^^> wols: that's how my kids feel.
[13:30] <wols> Tidus: IRC is not your unpaid professional consultant who does your work for you
[13:31] <Tidus> bazhang: less helpful than most i've seen too.
[13:32] <bazzieb> what other way is there to edit a file but not vi??
[13:32] <Tidus> !editor
[13:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[13:32] <Jowi> bazzieb, "nano" is very simple. my favourite.
[13:32] <bazzieb> nano was what i was looking for, thanks
[13:32] <bazhang> Tidus: wols is one of the best here imo
[13:32] <th0r> Tidus nope...I think your offbase here
[13:32] <^^gabriel^^> Everybody gets stuck sometime.  I wouldn't help anyone who wasn't making any effort either.
[13:33] <bazhang> !ot | Tidus
[13:33] <ubotu> Tidus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:33] <Tidus> bazhang: i'm not a retard. i know what's OT and what's not
[13:33] <bidossessi> conslutant; loool
[13:33] <Kalamansi> i guess you guys need to give some simple howtos so that ubuntu will be well-known and kicked windows out of the box
[13:33] <wols> Tidus: then don't act like one and take ot stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:33] <Lupin^> TonKi what setting do i have to make?
[13:33] <bazhang> Tidus: ease it up
[13:34] <wols> Tidus: and if you want to complain about my attitude: tell an op. !ops <blah>
[13:34] <Kalamansi> well im a windows user tho. and im tired of using linksys router
[13:34] <wols> Tidus: but be careful
[13:34] <Kalamansi> always have a problem with internet connection
[13:34] <Kalamansi> whew
[13:34] <Lupin^> TonKi i think i found it, thanks
[13:34] <elkbuntu> wols, we already know how rude you are, and are getting very sick of it.
[13:34] <TonKi> Lupin^: is "move between windows with popup" bound to alt-tab?
[13:35] <PriceChild> I want to find out which input my inbuilt mic is on. Is there a program I can use to easily see volume levels when I shout at my laptop and change capture volumes of the different devices
[13:35] <Kalamansi> bulmer was one of a kind tho
[13:35] <Kalamansi> but thank wols
[13:35] <bazhang> Kalamansi: yeah, they are problematic with all systems in my experience--asus are much better imo--but I am way offtopic; sorry!
[13:35] <Kalamansi> i think you wols have limited friends in the real life
[13:35] <Kalamansi> hehe
[13:35] <wols> elkbuntu: I#ve told you before so I won't do it again
[13:35] <Kalamansi> thanks wols you did help me before
[13:35] <Lupin^> TonKi it was ctrl+alt+e O_o
[13:36] <Lupin^> but i change it now, thanks :)
[13:36] <TonKi> change it ;)
[13:36] <Kalamansi> bazhang i sick of linksys router..thats why im trying to learn ubuntu as my first time os ever. i was born in windows.
[13:37] <Tidus> we all start somewhere
[13:37] <neil_d> I am trying to get a VirtualBox guest (ubuntu) connected to the internet, I have tried many things none have work :( I need some help
[13:37] <bazhang> Kalamansi: new to linux myself--googling around and the forums led me to asus routers wired and wireless all in one
[13:38] <Tidus> Kalamansi: is your /etc/network/interfaces (or something similar, never can remember file names) set up so one nic is hardcoded to a static ip, the other dhcp ?
[13:38] <Tidus> and also keep in mind on ubuntu, you'll have to disable networkmanager to make this work
[13:38] <elkbuntu> wols, no, please do tell me.
[13:38] <Kalamansi> bazhang : whats the uptime of your router?
[13:38] <Kalamansi> Tidus : i dont know im pissed
[13:38] <jaggy> how do i swap a file's rights ( root , normal users ... ) so everyone can use it ???
[13:38] <Kalamansi> Tidus and i think i will try endian than ubuntu
[13:38] <elkbuntu> wols, if you dont want to say it here, you know where to say it
[13:39] <wols> !permisions | jaggy
[13:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:39] <bidossessi> 'jaggy man chmod/chown'
[13:39] <Tidus> jaggy: chmod 1777 <file> as root
[13:39] <Kalamansi> my ubuntu still running i love it its fast
[13:39] <wols> Tidus: please don't. makes baby jesus cry
[13:39] <jaggy> ty Tidus i didn't know the number :p
[13:39] <wols> !permissions | jaggy
[13:39] <ubotu> jaggy: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[13:39] <Tidus> already had a grasp of the command, couldn't remember mode numbers
[13:40] <Kalamansi> ubuntu is fast i cant delete virus from usb also that came from windows thats what also i loved
[13:40] <Tidus> jaggy: if you can't remember the mode numbers, you can use the mode letters that are found in the man page for chown
[13:40] <Kalamansi> i mean "i can" not cant
[13:40] <jaggy> it wasn't there :s
[13:40] <Tidus> err... chmod rather
[13:40] <Kalamansi> bazhang : compare the price of linksys to asus?
[13:41] <Tidus> wols: this is how i learned.  get walked through it a couple times, then rtfm
[13:41] <Kalamansi> Tidus : auto lo
[13:41] <Kalamansi> iface lo inet loopback
[13:41] <bazhang> Kalamansi: I'm afraid of being nailed for offtopic--care to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[13:42] <Kalamansi> Tidus : i can connect pc2 to the internet with the help of bulmer and th0r. but when i run firestarter and reboot, the pc2 cannot connect to the internet its weird.
[13:42] <Tidus> Kalamansi: if you want this to work, you'll have to disable NetworkManager in the services config (and for the life of me, i can't remember where that is too)
[13:42] <wols> Tidus: I learned by lots of trying and reading stuff myself (back then no broadband but pay for the minute dialup. idling and asking on irc would be way too costly)
[13:42] <Tidus> Kalamansi: it's because firestarter wipes out iptables entirely
[13:42] <Kalamansi> Tidus : firestarter is not running now
[13:43] <wols> Tidus: network manager meddles with your manual interfaces settings? worse software than I thought this
[13:43] <Tidus> Kalamansi: yes, this is understood. however, when you start firestarter, it clears iptables out entirely, meaning all the NAT rules are gone
[13:43] <pete2> hello
[13:43] <Tidus> wols: yes, NetworkManager is meant to be a zeroconfig solution for portables
[13:43] <wols> Kalamansi: your ifconfig commandline needs to be run EVERY time you boot. which is the reason it's such a bad solution
[13:44] <Tidus> it'll override what's set in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:45] <bazzieb> kk
[13:45] <Kalamansi> wols Tidus what to do now? this is the command that i know <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:46] <Kalamansi> i mean this  sudo ifconfig eth2 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:46] <wols> that is not a command but a netmask
[13:46] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/arch contains several architecture-specific directories and files including a 'sh' directory. What does 'sh' stand for?
[13:46] <elig> anyone there
[13:46] <Kalamansi> wols : but i can connec pc2 before when bulmer thought me that command. but now it wont
[13:46] <wols> Kalamansi: I told you time and again to set up a static IP in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:47] <Kalamansi> wols i dont know to set up =/ i am not good in scripting =/
[13:47] <wols> Kalamansi: either you start at least trying, or you can ask about this forevre in here for all I care
[13:47] <Kalamansi> or whatever they call it like typing words
[13:47] <Kalamansi> or letters
[13:48] <pete2> i have problem with ubuntu scanner support, i bought HP M1005 MFP, printer works perfectly, but scanner just dont get detected in system, any tips how to fix this ? any help is apriciated. tnx
[13:48] <Kalamansi> i can install os its easy
[13:48] <Kalamansi> hehe
[13:48] <wols> pete2: check http://www.sane-project.org/ if the scanner is supported
[13:48] <pete2> tnx wols
[13:48] <^^gabriel^^> wols: I think Kalamansi means 'terminal commands'.
[13:48] <Kalamansi> but this typing letters im not good. not like in windows you will just obtain it and there
[13:49] <Kalamansi> or click it
[13:49] <Kalamansi> yeah terminal or console
[13:49] <wols> ^^gabriel^^: he means "please tell me exactly what magic commands I have to type in to make it all work miracoulously". and I am not gonna do that
[13:49] <^^gabriel^^> lol
[13:50] <wols> Kalamansi: you do know how to edit files?
[13:50] <th0r> we talked Kalamansi through all this once this morning, but he doesn't follow what is going on, so when he reboot the machines he lost everything.
[13:51] <RenatoSilva> What's a backport update?
[13:51] <Kalamansi> th0r i did follow what you and bulmer taught. but when i reboot its gone. pc2 cannot connect to hell
[13:51] <larson9999> do newer versions of adobe flash not have the *.xpt file?  i downloaded the tgz from adobe and i don't see it in there.
[13:51] <WorkingOnWise> !clone
[13:51] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:51] <Kalamansi> im such a noob
[13:51] <holymoo> larson9999: appearently not
[13:52] <pete2> wols, it is all-in-one printer/scanner/copier so i dont see it on sane-project,
[13:52] <savage1> hey guys
[13:52] <Kalamansi> wols : i can setup network also
[13:52] <tssom> What is the diference between Ubuntu Dapper Edgy etc..? And how to i know witch i have?
[13:52] <Kalamansi> wols : cabling also and im good in hardware troubleshooting
[13:52] <RenatoSilva> what's totem xine?
[13:52] <savage1> can i make my main ubuntu box setup so my other machines can network boot off of it and get full desktop features?
[13:53] <Kalamansi> wols im good in hardware troubleshooting. but im noob in linux
[13:53] <th0r> RenatoSilva video player software
[13:53] <wols> Kalamansi: that's all nice and dandy but a) if you can't configure a network you can't set one up  b) this is all OT here what you can and can't do. I asked you a specific question. please answer it
[13:53] <th0r> RenatoSilva probably more accurately...multimedia player software
[13:54] <wols> savage1: LTSP
[13:54] <Kalamansi> wols edit yes i can
[13:54] <darkghost2> hu hu
[13:54] <Kalamansi> edit files yes
[13:54] <darkghost2> hi
[13:54] <Spide1> hello everyone.
[13:54] <Kalamansi> wols edit files yes. but scripting in terminal i dont know
[13:54] <Spide1> I was wondering if anyone here would be familiar with Ubuntu installation problems...
[13:55] <Spide1> <---newb
[13:55] <th0r> Spide1 be specific
[13:55] <savage1> should i aptget ltsp?
[13:55] <Spide1> Well, when I load up off the CD, it eventually just gives me a garbled Ubuntu logo, and goes back to a black screen, saying it's loading scripts, then goes back to the garbled screen, and so on so forth indefinitely.
[13:56] <th0r> savage1 no...you should look up the Linux Terminal Server Project (ltsp). it is what you want
[13:56] <wols> savage1: you should read about it first. not trivial to setup
[13:56] <darkghost2> what you think about ubuntu?
[13:56] <tssom> Is ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy?
[13:56] <wols> !ot | darkghost2
[13:56] <ubotu> darkghost2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:56] <darkghost2> yes
[13:56] <wols> tssom: yes
[13:56] <tssom> ok, thanks
[13:56] <th0r> Spide1 sounds like the download or the burn went badly. Did you do the md5 checksum on the download?
[13:56] <jimbo> !ot | me
[13:56] <ubotu> me: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:57] <webjames> hi can someone go to http://uk.playstation.com/ and see if they can navigate the page, the flash background seems to overlay over the content
[13:57] <Spide1> Well, I've done multiple downloads, and multiple burns, they all come out the same...
[13:57] <savage1> thanks this is exactly what I'm looking for
[13:57] <darkghost2> ubotu: ne diyon ya
[13:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ne diyon ya - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:57] <savage1> the possibilities are great
[13:57] <xerxes1358> Hello
[13:57] <xerxes1358> again
[13:58] <darkghost2> hello
[13:58] <xerxes1358> He guys I need some help here on setting my harddrive up
[13:58] <savage1> i'm going to test this on about a 200 brand new machine w/ no cdrom just processor and ram and motherboard and see how well a diskless workstation works
[13:58] <Spide1> Also, when loading up oftentimes I get I/O errors and the like.
[13:58] <savage1> I'm thinking a home w/ up to 5 of these and one decent server w/ raid 1 and a gigabit switch and call it a day
[13:58] <ere4si> Spide1, installing on a laptop?
[13:58] <xerxes1358> I have a 80gb hd. I want to assign 20gb to Linux + apps and the rest of to data. What do I need to do ?
[13:58] <^^gabriel^^> Spide1: follow th0r's excellent advice.
[13:58] <Spide1> yessir.
[13:58] <Kalamansi> how to install ATI? my videocard is ATI
[13:59] <RenatoSilva> I'm testing Pidgin plugins please someone send me a message
[13:59] <th0r> Spide1 if you are getting IO errors it sounds like the cd drive itself might be bad
[13:59] <Spide1> hmmm.
[13:59] <th0r> Spide1 did you burn on this cd drive or a different one?
[14:00] <Spide1> the md5 bit you mentioned, that's the CD error test at the boot screen no?
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> test
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> test
[14:00] <Spide1> nah, I burned it on my own laptop, then used it on the one in question.
[14:00] <darkghost2> test
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> darkghost2: sorry rs
[14:00] <^^gabriel^^> Spide1: no, it checks the dl for errors.
[14:00] <th0r> Spide1 no, the md5 checksum will verify that the iso download is good. the CD error test on the boot screen you never reach, right?
[14:00] <Kalamansi> !ati
[14:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:01] <th0r> Spide1 if you burned on a different drive...did you use a very slow speed to burn (very good idea)
[14:01] <Spide1> I do reach it, but I get I/O errors and the like when I try to install.
[14:01] <RenatoSilva> What's backport updates?
[14:01] <^^gabriel^^> th0r: yes, i had to burn at 8x 'fore it worked.
[14:01] <xerxes1358> I have a 80gb hd. I want to assign 20gb to Linux + apps and the rest of to data. What do I need to do ?
[14:01] <darkghost2> updates
[14:01] <th0r> Spide1 sometimes differences in head alignment on two drives will give the sort of problems you are having, and doing a slow burn might help
[14:01] <RenatoSilva> What's backport updates?
[14:02] <ere4si> !backports
[14:02] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[14:02] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: make partition 1 78.5GB, and give it a mount point of "/home", and a file system of ext3. partition 2 20GB, and give it a mount point of "/" and a file system or ext2, and the rest as a swap partiton.
[14:02] <darkghost2> ben kaçar herkese iyi akşamlar(tr) Good evening(eng)
[14:02] <th0r> Spide1 yeah...those io errors mean your drive isn't reading the cd correctly. Two possibilities...the drive is going bad, or head misalignment.  A slow burn might help the alignment. As for the drive going bad...well....
[14:02] <Spide1> th0r really? Never knew that....
[14:03] <Spide1> don't suppose I can install from a USB drive...
[14:03] <th0r> Spide1 you can if the computer will boot from a usb drive. The newest ones supposedly can
[14:04] <crocd> is anyone having problems with spacebar not reponding or suddenly repeating and adding spaces whilst typing? My system is kubuntu on gutsy amd64. I am also use a belking kvm
[14:04] <Spide1> I guess I need to do a slow burn then...
[14:05] <Spide1> see if that helps. See, the weird part is it installed fine the first time, but then it kept crashing
[14:05] <Spide1> and freezing, and all sorts of unpleasant things.
[14:05] <th0r> Spide1 that would be my first suggestion
[14:05] <WorkingOnWise> crocd:  is the keyboard u are having troubles with plugged into the kvm?
[14:05] <th0r> Spide1 are you trying to reinstall?
[14:05] <Spide1> yes.
[14:06] <savage1> did you try another keyboard
[14:06] <th0r> funny how these things sort of trickle out
[14:06] <larson9999> wonder if i'll get 64bit to quit locking up or just go back to 32
[14:06] <savage1> it's probably either the keyboard or the kvm, probably a highly technical spilled beer situation
[14:06] <th0r> Spide1 are you booting off the CD or trying to run it after boot?
[14:06] <Spide1> booting off the CD
[14:07] <spee> does the ATI driver from the ati website for the mobility x1400 work with compiz and compositing windows?
[14:07] <spee> i remember beryl kinda suckin' when it came to ATI cards
[14:07] <th0r> Spide1 then it should work...I would suggest first a clean burn at a slow speed (no more than 8X...I usually use 2X)
[14:07] <elig> you know i cant get the drivers to compile
[14:07] <spee> if i use a generic ATI driver i have to disable compositing in the xorg conf to get anything to work
[14:07] <elig> anyone using the rt2570 drivers
[14:07] <Spide1> well, let me do the mp5 bit...is that something I can get off the Ubuntu site, or a seperate program?
[14:07] <spee> does the ATI driver from the site work properly? is true transparency working with ATI cards and these drivers?
[14:08] <th0r> !md5 | Spide1
[14:08] <ubotu> Spide1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[14:09] <IanLiu> I want to find all folders named 'CVS' under a tree of folders, how I do it?
[14:09] <sivaji> how to change my DNS address ?
[14:09] <bullgard4> There is a low-activity channel named '##kernel' in this network with the Topic: "2.{6.{24-{rc6,rc6-mm1},23.12,22.15,20.21,16.57},4.{36,35.5,34.6,33.7},2.{27-rc2,26},0.40}." Why has been made this specific choice of kernels?
[14:09] <dm> Hello. Anyone from from Halle, Germany here who owns an original 7.10 or 7.04 CD and wants to sell it?
[14:09] <vwhydrowv> i have a removable drive hooked up, ntfs, but the file system is showing up fusblk, any ideas why
[14:09] <vwhydrowv> ?
[14:09] <ksivaji> how to change my DNS address ?
[14:10] <wols> ksivaji: define "my DNS address" please?
[14:10] <IanLiu> ksivaji: sudo network-admin
[14:10] <vwhydrowv> system-administration-network ks
[14:10] <xerxes1358> .
[14:10] <wols> do you mean change what DNS server you use or change your DNS entry on the internet?
[14:10] <xerxes1358> Test
[14:10] <bullgard4> ksivaji: Usually your Internet provider will allocate this DNS address to you. So you need to ask your Internet provider to do so.
[14:11] <ksivaji> wols DNS address <IP_ADDRESS> address of domain name system
[14:11] <bobbob1016> I just discovered ssh, and that you can open apps (gui or text) through it.  I have a question though, how would I launch a program that was already running, as in I have a program running under my username on another machine already, and I want to bring that same instance here, is that possible?
[14:11] <xerxes1358> Ok where to find the manual for manual disc installation in ubuntu?
[14:11] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: did u see my question?
[14:11] <IanLiu> I want to remove all CVS folders from a tree of folders... How is the best way to do it?
[14:12] <xerxes1358> WorkingOnWise: no
[14:12] <th0r> bobbob1016 not possible via ssh...but possibly using vnc or nx
[14:12] <ksivaji> bullgard4 no i am using open dns now i wnat to use my default dns address <IP_ADDRESS> how to do that ?
[14:12] <Jowi> bobbob1016, you use "screen" command or "nohup" depending on what you want to do.
[14:12] <WorkingOnWise> first i would plug the same keyboard into the comouter to eliminate the kvm as a problem.''
[14:13] <Jowi> bobbob1016, but then the app must first be launched with "screen"
[14:13] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, I'm guessing you mean directions on how to do an alternate install, there is an old video on google-video/youtube, it was for 5.10 (breezy), but the general idea is the same
[14:13] <pulse00> hi there, i'm trying to install an ubuntu live iso on an usb-stick. should i take the regular iso found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download?
[14:13] <bobbob1016> Jowi, so I launch the app on the remote app with screen in the launcher?
[14:13] <pulse00> can't find any special live image
[14:13] <IanLiu> I tried find -r 'CVS' with no success
[14:13] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: werent u asking about a keyboard repeat problem?
[14:14] <bullgard4> ksivaji: If there is a router in your LAN and you are using DHCP you will need to re-program your router for another address of your computer.
[14:14] <fenix_> hello, is posible ask debian issues here?
[14:14] <scguy318> pulse00: that would do I believe
[14:14] <wols> fenix_: why not ask #debian?
[14:14] <Jowi> bobbob1016, yes. you can then logout, have a coffee, log back in and continue the screen session (with the running up still going strong)
[14:14] <xerxes1358> bobbob1016: much simpler. I want to do a manual disc resizing. Much like fdisk you know. I just dont know what the minimal requirements are for linux I remember you need 1 swap file a la 512 mb, / and a /home swap needs swap format and the rest can be reiserfs ?
[14:15] <Jowi> !info screen | bobbob1016