[00:43] <rfm> CarlFK, the debian wiki seems to have the right instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4  -- it worked for me up to when I quit using google for mail...
[00:45] <CarlFK> rfm: thanks
[00:49] <brendantcc|web> who here prefers ubuntu's unity window man
[00:50] <brendantcc|web> also, does it support multiple displays?
[00:57] <filifunky> Hi everyone I'm trying to install mysql but I keep getting this message:  http://www.mpaste.com/p/8EQxp
[00:58] <filifunky> I have purged every mysql package I have in dpkg -l | grep mysql so I don't know why it still says its a follow up error
[00:58] <filifunky> any help?
[01:01] <filifunky> please please please
[01:03] <OerHeks> first; you started an install with line #13  2 not upgraded.
[01:04] <filifunky> 0erHeks, thanks -- so I just have to run a sudo apt-get update?
[01:05] <filifunky> and then an apt-get upgrade, 0erHeks
[01:05] <OerHeks> apt update && apt dist-upgrade to be sure
[01:05] <filifunky> 0erHeks ok, trying now
[01:06] <brendantcc|web> oof, canonical team members, the Desktop Sharing settings in ubuntu-unity-desktop crashes the settings program
[01:06] <brendantcc|web> i've let it send it through to the devs
[01:07] <filifunky> 0erHeks, done, should I try a sudo apt install mysql-server?
[01:10] <OerHeks> i think it is still installed?
[01:10] <OerHeks> systemctrl status mysql
[01:11] <filifunky> it says Unit mysql.service could not be found.
[01:12] <filifunky> 0erHeks^
[01:12] <OerHeks> yes, you can reinstall
[01:12] <filifunky> 0erHeks ok, will try
[01:13] <filifunky> still the same error, sigh
[01:13] <filifunky> 0erHeks any other suggestions
[01:15] <OerHeks> well, after install, one should automatic get mysql_secure_installation
[01:15] <OerHeks> try apt install -f # to force dependencies?
[01:17] <filifunky> 0erHeks http://www.mpaste.com/p/x7Jo  still the same
[01:25] <filifunky> 0erHeks, I'm out of ideas
[01:26] <filifunky> anyone able to help me?
[01:33] <filifunky> guys anyone able to help me get rid of mysql
[01:34] <filifunky> guess no ubuntuers here
[01:37] <filifunky> anyone available to help me on getting mysql installed
[01:37] <rfm> filifunky, I suspect we
[01:38] <filifunky> hi rfm
[01:38] <rfm> filifunky, are all just baffled.  the problem is the mysql-server-5.7 postinst script failing.
[01:39] <filifunky> rfm yeah I don't know what to do.  Might just throw my computer out the window lol
[01:40] <rfm> filifunky, so you need to debug that.  what I would do is edit the postinst script (it should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst according to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216949)
[01:41] <rfm> filifunky, add a "set -x" command near the top, then try the install -f again, and see if you can figure out what is making the script fail
[01:42] <filifunky> rfm hmmmmm...../var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst doesn't exist
[01:44] <rfm> filifunky, then you'll have to root around and see where apt has unpacked it...  I sure don't know off hand.
[01:45] <filifunky> rfm, ok
[01:47] <rfm> filifunky, it's possible that apt install --reinstall mysql-server-5.7 would get the script unpacked there
[01:48] <rfm> filifunky, it probably sounds odd to install it since you're trying to get rid of it, but the problem is it's broken somehow and getting it into a sane state will allow it to uninstall cleanly...
[01:49] <filifunky> rfm ok, checking that out
[01:50] <rfm> filifunky, but this is not something I've done for years (used to have to do it a lot when running debian sid, but the debian devs got a lot better about not uploading broken packages)
[01:50] <rfm> filifunky, and I'm off to make dinner....
[01:51] <filifunky> rfm ok, thanks
[01:56] <julientm> What is a good way for me to run a service or use an online service  that offer a way to always get messages
[01:58] <julientm> for irc
[02:00] <Eickmeyer> julientm: A good way is irccloud, matrix.org, or if you like DIY, there's ZNC and Quassel.
[02:00] <julientm> thanks Eickmeyer
[02:01] <julientm> many channels dont have a irc bridge with matrix, for example ubuntu-offtopic, otherwise its what i would use
[02:01] <Eickmeyer> julientm: All of freenode is bridged with some exception.
[02:02] <julientm> really?
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> julientm: Also, #ubuntu-offtopic just requires your nick to be registered. If julientm is registered, then you can link your registration.
[02:02] <julientm> okay, let me check again
[02:02] <julientm> that is really awesome
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> julientm: You can check freenode.org for more information, or to get help ask in #freenode.
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> julientm: This channel is focused on Ubuntu-specific support only, so keep that in mind.
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> julientm: We are borderline offopic. :)
[02:04] <julientm> yes, still new to irc. sorry
[02:04] <Eickmeyer> julientm: No worries.
[02:05] <panoramics> CrypticSquared: Hi
[02:05] <panoramics> cryptodan_mobile: Hi
[02:05] <Eickmeyer> panoramics: Did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[02:06] <julientm> Eickmeyer, thanks for the help though (∩▂∩)
[02:06] <panoramics> Eickmeyer: Yes. Is Lubuntu dropping i386 support?
[02:06] <Eickmeyer> julientm: You're quite welcome.
[02:06] <Eickmeyer> panoramics: To my knowledge, yes.
[02:07] <panoramics> Eickmeyer: Do you know why for certain?
[02:07] <Eickmeyer> panoramics: Check https://lubuntu.me, I'm pretty sure there was an announcement there at some point.
[02:08] <panoramics> Eickmeyer: Thank you for your help.
[02:08] <Bashing-om> panoramics: Lubuntu requested a number of times for user inputs before dropping. Blame the community lack of support for 32 bit.
[02:08] <Eickmeyer> panoramics: You're welcome.
[02:09] <panoramics> Bashing-om: That is a major bummer
[02:10] <gislaved> is it better to have a seperate nic/bridge for a trunk link between servers ?
[02:10] <gislaved> or just bridge it on what you have ?
[02:11] <compdoc> might depend on how much traffic
[02:11] <gislaved> he compdoc you here :)
[02:11] <gislaved> yes I agree but it's virtio and that can push much more then 10G
[02:12] <compdoc> Im everywhere
[02:12] <gislaved> and the switch is vyos
[02:12] <angelcom>  ctrl+c can't stop it. how can i do it?
[02:12] <gislaved> compdoc can I safely look back atm ?
[02:12] <compdoc> I dont know what that means
[02:13] <gislaved> compdoc now...  I did long overdue apt-get upgrade while not watching ... the machine seemingly wanted to reboot and did so but the grub prompt came up ... how difficult is it likely going to be to get my machine to boot again?
[02:45] <Eickmeyer> Vic3: This has always worked for me in the past: http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/
[02:45] <Eickmeyer> Vic3: That said, Ubuntu 14.04 will be end-of-life later this month, so I highly recommend updating to 16.04 or 18.04.
[02:46] <Eickmeyer> *upgrading
[02:46] <Vic3> I am aware ...
[02:49] <Vic3> Eickmeyer I am in a GRUB2 terminal ...
[02:49] <Vic3> Which is where I go when I boot ... is there anything I cando from here?
[02:50] <Eickmeyer> Vic3: I'm afraid I cannot walk you through this. Download the ISO image from that link that I gave you and follow its instructions.
[02:51] <Vic3> Hmm, ok.  I guess I will have to wait until morning when I can get blank media.... thanks.
[03:23] <Vic3> Eickmeyer ... found a USB stick ... ok, so I have a firefox browser, gparted, and a text editor ... what am I supposed to do with them?
[03:34] <BomFromAccountin> hi
[04:40] <boblamont> how do I use a free proxy server in lubuntu? I've got the proxy preferences installed, but when I plug in an example from a free proxy list, my ip still shows up normal
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: what kind of proxy's did you find? socks5 or just transparant proxy?
[04:47] <boblamont> I think the one I'm trying is just transparent
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: thats why it uses your ip then
[04:48] <boblamont> ah, so how do I tell if it's working?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: you need to find yourself good anon socks5 proxys, and you can enter proxy per application that supports it, or use proxy chains tunnel
[04:49] <boblamont> ok
[04:49] <boblamont> thanks
[05:08] <sam01> hi I am getting net::ERR_SSL_VERSION_INTERFERENCE error randomly on site, any idea what can cause this issue. any suggestion or help around it please
[05:09] <linuxuser> Hey guys!
[05:09] <linuxuser> New here :D
[05:10] <sam01> welcome
[05:10] <linuxuser> Thanks much!
[06:13] <Snoop_> hey anyone there?
[06:14] <Snoop_> heloo?
[06:16] <Snoop_> ...
[06:16] <Snoop_> hello anyone there?
[06:17] <krytarik> Snoop_: IRC works best if you just ask an actual question.
[06:17] <Snoop_> sorry this is the first time using this
[06:17] <krytarik> In this case it should relate to Ubuntu support.
[06:17] <Snoop_> im having trouble installing ubuntu
[06:18] <Snoop_> is this the right place for this type of problem?
[06:18] <krytarik> Yeah, just put out more details.
[06:19] <Snoop_> im trying to install ubuntu on a SD Card, ik call me crazy but it something i want to do. during the installation i get a error message saying "The 'grub-efi-ia32' package failed to install into /target/.
[06:21] <Snoop_> i made sure to set GRUB to install to the SD card but it wouldnt go thru
[06:21] <Snoop_> btw i am trying to dual boot with Windows 10
[06:22] <Snoop_> the goal is to have Windows 10 and Ubuntu Dual Boot, Windows 10 being on the SSD and Ubuntu being on the SD Card
[06:22] <Snoop_> the sd is going to say in the pc
[06:22] <Snoop_> got any ideas?
[06:23] <krytarik> Not myself, but please wait a bit for anybody else to shime in.
[06:23] <Snoop_> will they be able to see the message above when they log in?
[06:25] <krytarik> Well, not if they newly join the channel, but usually there enough people on the channel already who might be able to respond on the issue.
[06:25] <Snoop_> ah ok cool, will they be able to ping me or something?
[06:25] <Snoop_> kinda like discord?
[06:26] <krytarik> Like I did earlier, yes.
[06:26] <Snoop_> alright cool thanks
[06:34] <krytarik> Snoop_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/260297/why-12-04-fails-to-install-grub-efi-to-target - just looking around, did you have an internet connection when trying to install?
[06:35] <Snoop_> no i did not, i was getting problems with the installation when i had a internet connection
[06:35] <Snoop_> also thanks for the link imma take a look at this
[06:36] <krytarik> What version of Ubuntu is this btw?  And Ubuntu proper or a flavor of it?
[06:37] <Snoop_> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS AMD 64
[06:40] <Snoop_> hmm its saying i should have a internet connection available when installing, the thing is when enabling updates and 3rd party software, i get an error message something about media
[06:43] <Snoop_> imma try to install again with internet connection, but just having updates enabled
[06:43] <Snoop_> not 3rd party software
[06:44] <krytarik> Yeah, I'd suggest the same.
[06:53] <kolaman> Hi All, I'm trying to install ubuntu from Microsoft Store on windows 10 but looks like that is blocked by my company admin (can get that done but a long way to approval even for this small thing). Is there anyother way to get that done without using Ms store
[06:54] <krytarik> !wsl | kolaman
[06:55] <kolaman> thanks ubottu but the problem is that we need to install that from Ms Store and MS store is blocked in my company
[06:56] <krytarik> Well, people in the mentioned might know if there is another way - people here likely not.
[06:56] <krytarik> Channel, I mean.
[07:16] <server24h> Guten Morgen zusammen
[07:23] <server24h> please German then myenglish is verry bad.   i´m sorry
[07:24] <EriC^^> !de | server24h
[07:24] <server24h> vielen dank ubottu
[07:25] <server24h> "/join#ubuntu-de
[07:45] <Snoop_> alright it installed with no problem!
[07:45] <Snoop_> however its not booting to ubuntu
[07:46] <Snoop_> when i go to the BIOS it gives me 3 options to boot to: Windows, Ubuntu and... Ubuntu
[07:47] <Snoop_> Windows it will boot me to Windows, 1st Ubuntu boots me to the GRUB Rescue and the other Ubuntu just turns black and goes back to the BIOS
[08:18] <EriC^^> Snoop_: the grub rescue one seems like it has potential, can you boot a live usb to troublehsoot?
[08:20] <Snoop_> yeah i can boot a live usb
[08:20] <EriC^^> k go for it
[08:22] <Snoop_> alrighty im in
[08:24] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:25] <Snoop_> would i need to have internet connection?
[08:25] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:27] <Snoop_> ok i get an error message
[08:27] <Snoop_> and gave me a link
[08:27] <EriC^^> copy the link here
[08:28] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/2gw0
[08:29] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk2p7 /mnt"
[08:30] <Snoop_> ok done
[08:30] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "grep efi /mnt/etc/fstab"
[08:30] <EriC^^> what'd do you get?
[08:31] <Snoop_> # /boot/efi was on /dev/mmcblk0p1 during installation
[08:31] <Snoop_> UUID=60A2-DED0   /boot/efi      vfat      umask=0077       0         1
[08:32] <EriC^^> ok great
[08:32] <EriC^^> type 'sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/boot/efi'
[08:33] <Snoop_> ok done
[08:33] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "ls -lR /mnt/boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:35] <Snoop_> alright
[08:35] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/vsqg
[08:37] <EriC^^> Snoop_: hmm, everything seems to be fine, i was expecting to see a missing efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg which would give a grub rescue shell, anyways let's keep digging.. type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:38] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/fll6
[08:39] <EriC^^> Snoop_: interesting, one entry seems to be for 32bit uefi, the other for 64bit, any idea how that happened?
[08:40] <Snoop_> you mean a version of ubuntu 32bit?
[08:40] <EriC^^> no, the uefi version only
[08:40] <EriC^^> is it a tablet pc/hybrid?
[08:40] <Snoop_> its a 2in1 tablet
[08:41] <Snoop_> those really cheap ones
[08:41] <Snoop_> nuvision duo 10
[08:41] <EriC^^> aha, im guessing you followed some guide to install ubuntu on it?
[08:41] <Snoop_> yeah tho i wasnt getting any luck
[08:42] <EriC^^> can you share the link, might be useful/insightful
[08:42] <Snoop_> oof im not sure what video it was, i was looking thru soo much vids
[08:42] <Snoop_> i been fighting with this for 4 days
[08:42] <EriC^^> Snoop_: in the meantime, let's first check efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg to see what's actually in there
[08:42] <EriC^^> np nevermind
[08:43] <Snoop_> tho i think i installed something to the internal storage
[08:43] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "(sudo blkid; cat /mnt/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:43] <Snoop_> when i remove the sd card, i can still boot to GRUB rescue
[08:43] <EriC^^> with the "(" around them
[08:43] <Snoop_> alright give me a min
[08:44] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah the bootloader is now on the windows drive in the efi partition
[08:44] <Snoop_> yeeeeaaah dont want that there
[08:44] <EriC^^> it wont interfere, it's just annoying that you'd need both drives to boot ubuntu, is all
[08:45] <Snoop_> yeah i agree
[08:45] <EriC^^> you could make an efi partition on ubuntu if you wanted, and make an entry for it
[08:45] <EriC^^> actually your ubuntu drive is kinda weird right now, it's msdos but it's missing the first primary partition
[08:46] <Snoop_> yeah its all weird rn
[08:46] <EriC^^> that's why i checked /boot as well, thought it might have been separate and deleted,
[08:46] <EriC^^> Snoop_: it has 8mb at the start, so you could make an efi partition with that if you want
[08:46] <Snoop_> the goal is to have windows 10 in the internal and Ubuntu on the SD card, and be able to dual boot
[08:47] <Snoop_> also if possible use Windows Boot Manager instead of grub
[08:47] <EriC^^> Snoop_: do you want ubuntu to be standalone?
[08:47] <Snoop_> yeah just have ubuntu installed to the SD card
[08:48] <EriC^^> ok, anyways
[08:48] <Snoop_> but i put 2 partitions on the sd card since this tablet comes with only 30 GB
[08:48] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "(sudo blkid; cat /mnt/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:48] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/euw7
[08:49] <EriC^^> Snoop_: oh there's the problem
[08:49] <EriC^^> in grub.cfg it has search.fs_uuid 75d8c1d7-ccc9-4594-884a-a1c7d8f95869 root
[08:49] <Snoop_> o dear
[08:49] <EriC^^> meanwhile the root's uuid is actually /dev/mmcblk2p7: UUID="64af0cd7-cccd-4bc8-8009-24c30d92e447" TYPE="ext4"
[08:50] <Snoop_> ah ok
[08:50] <Snoop_> so it was looking at the wrong spot
[08:50] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, let's get this thing booting first, and later if you want to move the efi to ubuntu's disk we can do it fairly quickly
[08:50] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah
[08:51] <Snoop_> what exactly is the efi?
[08:51] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[08:51] <EriC^^> Snoop_: it's the bootloader system
[08:51] <EriC^^> !uefi
[08:52] <Snoop_> o but shouldnt the efi say in the internal storage?
[08:52] <Snoop_> stay*
[08:53] <dym> Hey all! Im trying to generate a situation where only the connection of certain hosts to ssh is allowed via key based authentication. This doesnt seem to work and offer third hosts a password based auth: https://pastebin.com/raw/6tbp4X7t - why is that and how do i correct it?
[08:53] <EriC^^> Snoop_: in the ubuntu disk you mean?
[08:53] <EriC^^> Snoop_: or windows?
[08:53] <Snoop_> on windows
[08:53] <Snoop_> rn windows is installed to the internal storage
[08:54] <EriC^^> Snoop_: not really, see if you put ubuntu on a different pc right now, it's missing its bootloader so you wouldnt be able to boot it
[08:54] <Snoop_> and ubuntu is installed to a external storage
[08:54] <EriC^^> i'd rather myself have standalone installs not depending on different disks/os to boot
[08:55] <Snoop_> i would like it to have ubuntu just boot only for this pc
[08:55] <Snoop_> i want it so if i do put the SD on another pc it wont boot
[08:55] <EriC^^> well in that case you could leave the efi bootloader on the windows efi partition
[08:55] <EriC^^> perfect then :)
[08:56] <EriC^^> did you run the for i in .... command?
[08:56] <Snoop_> i did and i got an error
[08:57] <EriC^^> what was the error
[08:57] <Snoop_> mount: /mnt: mount(2) system call failed: No such file or directory.
[08:57] <Snoop_> maybe i typed it wrong?
[08:58] <EriC^^> Snoop_: possibly, type "echo !-1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:59] <Snoop_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'do'
[09:00] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "history | tail -4 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:01] <EriC^^> Snoop_: i think you missed the ";" before do
[09:01] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/kg5u
[09:02] <EriC^^> Snoop_: oh, that's an i not 1
[09:02] <Snoop_> oooo its 1
[09:02] <Snoop_> lol my b
[09:02] <EriC^^> np :D
[09:04] <Snoop_> alright i did the for i command
[09:04] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type "sudo chroot /mnt"
[09:05] <Snoop_> alright
[09:05] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:07] <EriC^^> Snoop_: you can just type the last 4 letters of the pastebin
[09:07] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/zyc1
[09:07] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, seems a bit of a mess nothing too big, grub-pc (legacy bios) is kind of installed alongside grub-efi
[09:08] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin"
[09:08] <Snoop_> alright
[09:09] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type 'grub-install'
[09:10] <Snoop_> i got a message saying do you want to have all GRUB 2 files removed from /boot/grub
[09:10] <EriC^^> when you did the purge command?
[09:10] <Snoop_> when i typed "apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin"
[09:10] <EriC^^> ok say yes
[09:11] <Snoop_> ok done
[09:11] <Snoop_> do i now type 'grub-install'?
[09:11] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah
[09:12] <Snoop_> alright installation finished no error
[09:12] <EriC^^> Snoop_: nice, type "update-grub'
[09:13] <Snoop_> ok done
[09:13] <EriC^^> Snoop_: finally type 'cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999'
[09:13] <EriC^^> let's see if it fixed that file
[09:14] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/vula
[09:14] <EriC^^> Snoop_: odd, type "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:15] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/wrse
[09:16] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok that one is right
[09:16] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type 'rm /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg'
[09:16] <EriC^^> then 'grub-install' again
[09:16] <EriC^^> i want to see if it's actually creating it, maybe its putting it somewhere else i dunno
[09:17] <Snoop_> alright installed no errors
[09:17] <EriC^^> ok, what's now in 'cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999' ?
[09:18] <EriC^^> termbin.com/bttr hopefully xD
[09:19] <Snoop_> hmmm
[09:19] <EriC^^> it doesnt exist?
[09:20] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:20] <Snoop_> im getting cat: /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg: No such file or directory
[09:20] <EriC^^> that makes sense, it must be creating it somewhere else or ...
[09:21] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/fxb1u
[09:22] <EriC^^> hmm it doesnt seem to be creating it anywhere, oddly enough
[09:23] <Snoop_> hmm weird
[09:24] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "grub-install --target=ia32-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[09:24] <EriC^^> im not sure of the --target for 32bit efi let me google
[09:25] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "grub-install --target=i386-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[09:26] <Snoop_> alright its installed no error
[09:26] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, cool, any grub.cfg created?
[09:26] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:27] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/mavw
[09:27] <EriC^^> Snoop_: if it still won't add it, we could try reinstalling the relevant grub-ia32-efi packages and see if it does that, as a last resort we can just manually create the file, and since it doesnt seem to be adding it, hopefully in the future it wont modify it in any way
[09:29] <Snoop_> alright hopefully we can get this working
[09:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:29] <Snoop_> i appreciate all the help man!
[09:29] <EriC^^> Snoop_: no problem
[09:29] <Snoop_> so what should i do next?
[09:30] <SimonNL> -r--r--r-- 1 root root  8196 Apr 11 05:12 grub.cfg     /boot/grub:        that it EriC^^ ?
[09:30] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type "apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-ia32 grub-efi-ia32-bin grub-common grub2-common"
[09:30] <EriC^^> SimonNL: nah, that's the config for the menu generated by update-grub
[09:31] <SimonNL> oki
[09:32] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok last time before we bruteforce this :D "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:33] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/1mta
[09:34] <EriC^^> Snoop_: nope, no worries though
[09:34] <Snoop_> darn
[09:36] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "wget -O /tmp/grub.cfg https://termbin.com/4u67"
[09:37] <EriC^^> Snoop_: then type "cp /tmp/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg"
[09:37] <mIk3_08> no desktop Linux for me ----- hahahahhahahahahahahahahahha
[09:37] <EriC^^> as well as "cp /tmp/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg"
[09:38] <mIk3_08> no desktop Linux for me ----- hahahahhahahahahahahahahahha
[09:38] <EriC^^> the grub-install seems to be also creating /efi/grub  (it should only do efi/ubuntu but i guess it's a bug) so in the future if it references that to the uefi entry in efibootmgr it should still work cause we copied a grub.cfg there too
[09:38] <Snoop_> im getting connection refused
[09:39] <EriC^^> hmm
[09:39] <Snoop_> o wait
[09:39] <Snoop_> i did a typo
[09:40] <Snoop_> alright did the first command
[09:40] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok
[09:42] <EriC^^> Snoop_: did you run the 2 cp commands?
[09:42] <Snoop_> yea did it
[09:43] <MissPain> good morning
[09:43] <Snoop_> gm
[09:43] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, try rebooting to see if it works, lastly we might want to clean up the uefi list, i guess it has multiple grub/ubuntu entries now
[09:44] <Snoop_> alright so reboot
[09:44] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah, first exit the chroot with "exit" then reboot
[09:44] <Snoop_> should i remove the live USB?
[09:44] <EriC^^> only after the pc has switched off
[09:45] <MissPain> i got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar
[09:45] <MissPain> i installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff
[09:46] <MissPain> this never happened before - now there is a folder /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol containing several files - might this be security related ?
[09:47] <Snoop_> when i reboot it took me to Windows without giving me an option to boot to anything else
[09:48] <Snoop_> when i went to the BIOS settings i now have 4 options
[09:48] <EriC^^> Snoop_: is there a one-time boot menu you can use?
[09:48] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try the "grub" entry it's most likely to work
[09:49] <Snoop_> i booted to grub and i got went to the grub rescue
[09:49] <Snoop_> error: no such device: 64af0cd7-cccd-4bc8-8009-24c30d92e447
[09:53] <EriC^^> Snoop_: aha
[09:53] <EriC^^> Snoop_: let's try manually booting from grub then
[09:54] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "ls -l" does it list the ext4 partition that has ubuntu with the aforementioned uuid?
[09:54] <Snoop_> type it on the grub rescue?
[09:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:55] <Snoop_> is that a L or 1?
[09:55] <EriC^^> small L
[09:55] <EriC^^> both
[09:56] <Snoop_> error: unknown filesystem
[09:56] <EriC^^> try just "ls" what does it list?
[09:57] <Snoop_> (hd0) (hd1) (hd2)
[09:57] <EriC^^> it should list various (gpt,xx) partitions (the windows ones) and (msdos,xx) which are the ubuntu ones
[09:57] <Snoop_> it only shows (hd0) (hd1) (hd2)
[09:57] <EriC^^> sorry i mean (hd0,msdos) etc
[09:57] <EriC^^> oh
[09:59] <EriC^^> well that's odd
[09:59] <EriC^^> try booting the live usb, and when you get the 'try ubuntu/install' menu, press "c" to drop to a grub shell
[10:00] <Snoop_> alright
[10:00] <EriC^^> Snoop_: i think grub is supposed to have in its grub.efi the capabilities to read the various partitions/filesystems
[10:01] <Snoop_> alright im in the grub shell
[10:01] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type "ls"
[10:01] <Snoop_> alright cool got something more promising
[10:01] <EriC^^> Snoop_: what are the msdos ones?
[10:02] <Snoop_> (hd0) (hd0, msdos1) is the only one
[10:02] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[10:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:03] <MissPain> anyone got time to look into my issue ? if so pls om
[10:03] <MissPain> pm
[10:04] <EriC^^> Snoop_: any luck?
[10:04] <Snoop_> uh took me back to the try ubuntu screen
[10:04] <Snoop_> ....then it auto booted to ubuntu
[10:04] <BluesKaj> !pm | MissPain
[10:04] <EriC^^> Snoop_: hmm it should load the menu for the actual install
[10:05] <Snoop_> maybe it will once its finished loading
[10:05] <Snoop_> o nvm yeah im just in the live usb desktop
[10:05] <MissPain> i got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar - I then installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff - this never happened before - now ther
[10:05] <MissPain> i got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar - I then installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff - this never happened before - now ther
[10:05] <Snoop_> should i go back to the grub shell and try again?
[10:06] <MissPain> a folder callenow there is a folder /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol containing several files - might this be security related ?
[10:06] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah
[10:07] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try "ls -l" in the grub shell
[10:07] <EriC^^> it'll give more info
[10:08] <EriC^^> ill bb in 2mins
[10:08] <brlin> MissPain: Host the files somewhere online and let people verify it.
[10:09] <Snoop_> error: file '-l' not found
[10:10] <booeeew> Anyone use mysql? Does anyone know if the Tar's here https://bit.ly/2IazPVX have the client ?
[10:14] <MissPain> by opening tilix the console says: ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie: /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol$
[10:14] <MissPain> is this normal ?
[10:21] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home"
[10:21] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home/"
[10:24] <Snoop_> error: invalid sector size 0
[10:24] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yikes
[10:25] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try a bit more like "ls (hd0,msdos1)" see what it says
[10:25] <Snoop_> yeah
[10:26] <Snoop_> same thing
[10:26] <Snoop_> error: invalid sector size 0
[10:26] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try "ls" again what other disks are there
[10:28] <Snoop_> (hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)
[10:29] <Snoop_> weird tho earlier i did the same command and hd0,msdos1 appeared
[10:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:31] <EriC^^> try rebooting and see if it appears
[10:31] <Snoop_> yeah
[10:32] <HiDeHo-U3> hi all having trouble trying to remember the admin password on my old pc
[10:33] <Snoop_> ok (hd0,msdos1) appeared again
[10:33] <EriC^^> HiDeHo-U3: boot into grub's recovery and reset it
[10:33] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home/"
[10:33] <EriC^^> it should list your username for the instal
[10:35] <Snoop_> error: file '/home/' not found
[10:35] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try "ls (hd0,msdos)/"
[10:35] <EriC^^> Snoop_: try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/"
[10:36] <EriC^^> Snoop_: if that doesn't work, try "insmod ext2" then try again
[10:37] <Snoop_> System volume Information/ ldlinux.sys .disk/ boot/ casper/ dists/ efi/ install/ isolinux/ md5sum.txt pics/ pool/ preseed/ README.diskdefines ubuntu syslinux.cfg autorun.inf autorun/ico
[10:38] <EriC^^> Snoop_: oh, that looks like the live usb
[10:38] <Snoop_> this appeared when i did ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[10:38] <EriC^^> Snoop_: are there any other disks/partitions in the output of "ls" ?
[10:38] <EriC^^> try "insmod ext2" then "ls" again
[10:39] <Snoop_> (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)
[10:39] <EriC^^> i guess it's hd2 or hd3
[10:40] <EriC^^> does "ls (hd2)" read anything
[10:40] <Katnip> https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/11/julian-assange-arrested-at-ecuadorian-embassy-wikileaks
[10:40] <EriC^^> Snoop_: i wonder if it's having a hard time reading it since there's no primary partition on it, so it just ignores the partition table listing
[10:40] <Snoop_> (hd2): filesystem is unknown
[10:41] <Katnip> oops wrong window sorry
[10:41] <EriC^^> Snoop_: it could be that, or it cant actually read that disk from the BIOS, in which case you could put ubuntu's /boot on the windows disk, that way it loads the kernel and grub and whatnot from there, and continues normally
[10:41] <EriC^^> Snoop_: let's try booting the live usb, and creating a primary partition for the ubuntu disk, so it's set up up to standard/code
[10:42] <Snoop_> so u think the BIOS doesnt read the SD Card?
[10:42] <EriC^^> Snoop_: either that, or it's ignoring it cause it's used to finding a primary partition there
[10:43] <EriC^^> i'm more inclined to the former though, but it's worth a shot to see if a primary partition and whatever flags it likes are set
[10:43] <Snoop_> yeah i was thinking the same thing
[10:43] <Snoop_> the BIOS doesnt say anything about a SD card
[10:44] <Snoop_> but lets give this a try
[10:44] <EriC^^> alright
[10:44] <Snoop_> alright im in the desktop
[10:45] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type "sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk2"
[10:46] <EriC^^> then type "p" to list the partitions, it should list the ubuntu ones, 44gb and 2gb swap etc
[10:46] <Snoop_> alright got a list of partitions
[10:46] <EriC^^> are they the ubuntu ones?
[10:47] <EriC^^> this is the partition tables for reference http://termbin.com/2gw0
[10:48] <Snoop_> yeah it only shows the mmcblk2
[10:48] <EriC^^> Snoop_: press "q" to quit
[10:48] <EriC^^> Snoop_: then type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:49] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/j3z8
[10:50] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, type 'sudo cfdisk /dev/mmcblk2'
[10:50] <EriC^^> in the 8mb unallocated space at the top, create a primary partition
[10:52] <Snoop_> i got a 6.9m free space and a 6m free space
[10:52] <EriC^^> Snoop_: use the one at the top
[10:53] <Snoop_> ok i got /dev/mmcblk2p2 created with linux
[10:53] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, press on "Bootable" it should make a "*" somewhere
[10:53] <EriC^^> then press "write" and type "yes" to confirm
[10:54] <Snoop_> alright * appeared next to /dev/mmcblk2p2
[10:54] <Snoop_> and the partition table has been altered
[10:55] <EriC^^> great, type 'sudo partprobe'
[10:55] <EriC^^> then type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' again
[10:55] <Snoop_> do i hit quit first?
[10:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:57] <Snoop_> http://termbin.com/jw7l
[10:57] <EriC^^> looks good, try rebooting and use the live usb to see if it picks up the partitions for the ubuntu disk
[10:58] <EriC^^> Snoop_: as for plan B there is 4      30.2GB  31.3GB  1049MB  ntfs         Basic data partition          hidden, diag which looks like a potentially usable space for ubuntu's /boot, but i think it would remove the native recovery features of the PC
[11:00] <Snoop_> alright i rebooted and do i go to the grub shell or live usb desktop?
[11:00] <EriC^^> the efi could potentially be used, but it would be a very tight fit, 105mb with windows + ubuntu taking up like 50mb so you'd be left with 50mb for the ubuntu's /boot
[11:00] <EriC^^> Snoop_: yeah
[11:01] <Snoop_> so go to grub shell?
[11:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:01] <Snoop_> ok im here
[11:01] <EriC^^> Snoop_: type "ls"
[11:02] <Snoop_> (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)
[11:02] <linuxuserpopos> Windows? lol get away with that
[11:02] <EriC^^> Snoop_: same thing i guess, it isnt reading the ubuntu disk
[11:03] <Snoop_> darn
[11:04] <EriC^^> Snoop_: you could use the windows disk for ubuntu's /boot if you want
[11:05] <Snoop_> have the windows disk do the boot, it wont have the Ubuntu OS there right?
[11:05] <Snoop_> i only have like....7GB left there
[11:05] <EriC^^> Snoop_: it'll have ubuntu's /boot which contains the kernel/initramfs + grub files
[11:05] <EriC^^> 1gb is more than enough for it
[11:06] <Snoop_> ok and it will load the OS on the SD card?
[11:06] <EriC^^> yeah it'll load and use the disk space on the sd card for programs + the /home dir etc
[11:06] <Snoop_> alright lets do it
[11:06] <EriC^^> Snoop_: ok, boot the live usb again
[11:07] <Airee> a
[11:07] <EriC^^> are you sure you have 7gb free there? you mean free or unallocated snoop?
[11:07] <EriC^^> Snoop_:  i think you meant free, like in window's C:\ there's 7gb free, right?
[11:08] <Snoop_> yeah on the c:\
[11:08] <EriC^^> Snoop_: we need some unallocated space, so we can create a partition for ubuntu's /boot
[11:08] <EriC^^> Snoop_: you could either shrink the windows one, that's an option
[11:09] <Snoop_> ok so are we going to take 1GB from the 7GB?
[11:09] <EriC^^> (you'd have to shrink it from windows, i wouldnt trust linux's ntfs stuff, it's biten me in the butt many times)
[11:09] <Snoop_> ok yeah imma do that
[11:09] <EriC^^> Snoop_: if you want, or you could use this partition, but i think it would remove the pc's recovery options
[11:09] <EriC^^> this one, the 4th partition in the list 4      30.2GB  31.3GB  1049MB  ntfs         Basic data partition          hidden, diag
[11:09] <Snoop_> nah i want the recovery options
[11:09] <EriC^^> it's 1gb and it says 'hidden,diag(diagnostics)'
[11:10] <EriC^^> ok
[11:10] <Snoop_> so imma have to boot to windows and shrink the size
[11:10] <EriC^^> Snoop_: boot into windows, shrink what you can from it, /boot just has to be like 512mb is even enough if space is tight
[11:10] <EriC^^> 512mb would be great
[11:24] <Snoop_> i can only shrink 407 mb
[11:24] <Snoop_> is that fine?
[11:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:29] <Snoop__> ok got 400 mb unallocated
[11:30] <EriC^^> Snoop__: i got d/c back now
[11:31] <Snoop__> o alright then
[11:31] <Snoop__> Thanks for the help man!
[11:35] <HiDeHo> anyone know wheer i can get arm versions of firefox and chromium
[11:35] <EriC^^> Snoop__: np let me know when the shrinking is finished
[11:35] <Snoop__> its done
[11:36] <Snoop__> got 400mb
[11:36] <Snoop__> couldnt do 407mb....for some reason
[11:42] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, boot into the live usb again
[11:43] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[11:47] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/t0b2
[11:47] <leftyfb> HiDeHo: sudo apt install firefox
[11:47] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo cgdisk /dev/mmcblk0"
[11:48] <Snoop__> alright
[11:48] <EriC^^> make a partition in the unallocated space at the end, set the type to "8300"
[11:49] <Snoop__> the 400 mib one?
[11:49] <HiDeHo> leftyfb, you know that would work but--- this os is eol and repos are dead. no i cant update to a newer os on thsi ODROID device
[11:49] <HiDeHo> so i am stuck with ubuntu 14.04
[11:49] <leftyfb> HiDeHo: then it's unsupported
[11:51] <EriC^^> Snoop__: yeah
[11:52] <Snoop__> it says first sector
[11:52] <HiDeHo> i knowq
[11:52] <HiDeHo> i was only asking if there was a arm versions of firefox and chromium
[11:54] <EriC^^> Snoop__: press enter for the defaults
[11:56] <Snoop__> size in sectors?
[11:56] <Snoop__> same thing
[11:56] <EriC^^> Snoop__: yeah use the defaults
[11:57] <Snoop__> Enter new partition name
[11:57] <Snoop__> or just hit enter
[11:57] <EriC^^> type 'ubuntu boot' or whatever you'd like or hit enter
[11:58] <Snoop__> alright its now the Linux filesystem
[11:58] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, did you set the type to 8300?
[11:59] <Snoop__> yea before it asked for the new partition name
[12:00] <EriC^^> Snoop__: alright, write the table and exit
[12:01] <Snoop__> ok done
[12:03] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo partprobe; sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:04] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/cdtke
[12:07] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/mmcblk0p5"
[12:07] <Snoop__> alright done
[12:08] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p5 /mnt"
[12:08] <Snoop__> ok
[12:08] <EriC^^> Snoop__: also type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk2p7 /cdrom"
[12:09] <Snoop__> ok
[12:09] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type 'sudo rsync -av /cdrom/boot/ /mnt'    (the "/" after boot is important)
[12:10] <Snoop__> ok done
[12:11] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo blkid /dev/mmcblk0p5 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:12] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/bs5k
[12:12] <Snoop__> ok i think this is it
[12:13] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type 'sudo nano /cdrom/etc/fstab'
[12:13] <EriC^^> Snoop__: you need to add the line for /boot
[12:14] <EriC^^> UUID=ed038e47-bda4-42cc-80ea-9a3225e06b09 /boot ext4 defaults 0 1
[12:14] <EriC^^> add that somewhere then save and exit with ctrl+x
[12:14] <Snoop__> so put UUID=ed038e47-bda4-42cc-80ea-9a3225e06b09 /boot ext4 defaults 0 1 at the bottom?
[12:15] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:16] <EriC^^> Snoop__: now to confirm all is good, type "ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:17] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/yg6a
[12:19] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, since we copied /boot to the partition now to remove it from the ubuntu main partition, "sudo rm -r /cdrom/boot && sudo mkdir /cdrom/boot"
[12:20] <Snoop__> ok
[12:21] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i cdrom$i; done"
[12:21] <EriC^^> sorry typo
[12:21] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /cdrom$i; done"
[12:22] <Snoop__> ok done
[12:22] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo chroot /cdrom"
[12:23] <Snoop__> ok
[12:23] <EriC^^> Snoop__: "ls /boot" is empty right?
[12:23] <Snoop__> i get nothing when typing that
[12:24] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok great, type "mount -a"
[12:24] <Snoop__> alright
[12:24] <Snoop__> o wait
[12:24] <Snoop__> says mount: /boot/efi: mount point does not exist
[12:25] <EriC^^> hmm, i guess it works in order, fstab
[12:25] <EriC^^> try "mount /boot"
[12:25] <EriC^^> then "mount /boot/efi"
[12:25] <EriC^^> you might have to switch the /boot line to the top i guess
[12:26] <Snoop__> alright i put in mount /boot
[12:27] <EriC^^> aha, and "mount /boot/efi" ?
[12:27] <Snoop__> yeah
[12:27] <Snoop__> says /dev/mmcblk0ps already mounted on /boot
[12:27] <Snoop__> says /dev/mmcblk0p5 already mounted on /boot
[12:28] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, type 'nano /etc/fstab' move the /boot line you added earlier to the top after the "/" one
[12:28] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999' use gedit way easier
[12:29] <EriC^^> *i'll use
[12:30] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/kulv
[12:31] <EriC^^> Snoop__: wget -O /etc/fstab https://termbin.com/2lyo
[12:32] <EriC^^> done?
[12:32] <Snoop__> yup
[12:33] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, type "grub-install --target=i386-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi'
[12:34] <Snoop__> alright installed no error
[12:34] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "update-grub"
[12:35] <Snoop__> ok done
[12:36] <EriC^^> Snoop__: there's one last issue, earlier when we tried the grub.efi on the windows hdd, it wasnt listing any partitions at all for some reason, i was thinking we could just copy the grub.efi found on the live usb instead if that happens, anyways we'll found out in a bit i guess
[12:36] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "exit" then reboot with the live usb out
[12:37] <EriC^^> if you get a grub rescue shel or whatever, type "ls" to see if it can see the partitions, now the ubuntu one should be one of the (hd1,gptxxx) one's if it lists them
[12:38] <Snoop__> alright it booted to windows
[12:38] <Snoop__> going to one time boot
[12:38] <EriC^^> Snoop__: ok, how many entries are there for ubuntu?
[12:39] <EriC^^> nevermind, let's just see if it will list the hd,gpt ones hopefully
[12:40] <Snoop__> i have 4 options to boot windows boot loader, grub, ubuntu and ubuntu. grub takes me straight to grub rescue and one ubuntu took me to gnu grub and the other just leaves a black screen
[12:41] <Snoop__> i was able to boot to ubuntu without the live USB
[12:41] <Snoop__> phew
[12:42] <filifunky> hi guys I'm tired of trying to figure out the solution to my problem is there a way to restart everything like a factory reset and start from scratch?  I have everything backed up that I want backed up.
[12:42] <EriC^^> Snoop__: it worked?
[12:42] <leftyfb> filifunky: you've already been told, no
[12:42] <leftyfb> filifunky: reinstall
[12:43] <Snoop__> yeah it went thru!
[12:43] <EriC^^> Snoop__: awesome!
[12:43] <Snoop__> tho whats with the other ubuntu?
[12:43] <filifunky> leftyfb I don't remember ever asking this
[12:43] <Snoop__> tho whats with the other ubuntu option?
[12:43] <EriC^^> Snoop__: they're old entries, we can delete them using efibootmgr
[12:43] <Snoop__> o ok
[12:44] <leftyfb> filifunky: ok, sorry. Might have been someone else
[12:44] <Snoop__> is there a way to have windows boot loader give me a option to boot to ubuntu
[12:44] <leftyfb> filifunky: no
[12:44] <Snoop__> that way i dont have to always go to BIOS to boot to ubuntu
[12:44] <leftyfb> Snoop__: no
[12:44] <leftyfb> filifunky: there is no factory reset.
[12:44] <EriC^^> Snoop__: leftyfb yeah there is, you have to edit the bcd stuff
[12:44] <rypervenche> filifunky: Reinstalling is essentially a factory reset :P
[12:44] <leftyfb> Snoop__: make GRUB the default and add windows to the grub menu by just running sudo update-grub
[12:45] <EriC^^> above would be easier i guess, the nice thing is that grub is totally on the windows disk right now, so if you remove the ubuntu disk, you should still be able to boot into windows from grub, Snoop__
[12:45] <leftyfb> EriC^^: ah, that's news to me. Something new to Windows 10?
[12:46] <Snoop__> but with windows boot loader should do the same right?
[12:46] <EriC^^> leftyfb: actually i'm not sure tbh, im second thinking it right now, usually you can have multiple windows in it, but not sure if you can have a grub item, you can set grub as default but i dont think it gives a selection option
[12:46] <EriC^^> i opt for using grub as leftyfb suggested
[12:46] <EriC^^> Snoop__: i'm not sure it would give you a selection, let me google real quick
[12:47] <Snoop__> alright
[12:48] <EriC^^> not a lot of info online about it
[12:49] <filifunky> ok guys thanks. There is a folder I am trying to get into and I get a permission denied.  If I sudo cd into it I get a command not found.  Any way around this?
[12:49] <filifunky> I'm trying to find out if there is a config file in there screwing things up
[12:50] <Snoop__> similar to https://i.stack.imgur.com/A12nL.png
[12:50] <EriC^^> Snoop__: try to see if there is easybcd for uefi
[12:51] <EriC^^> for mbr it apparently can do it
[12:51] <EriC^^> https://neosmart.net/wiki/easybcd/uefi/
[12:52] <EriC^^> Snoop__: oh, it wont work, microsoft has banned adding entries of older ms os or linux
[12:52] <Snoop__> aw alright then
[12:52] <EriC^^> Snoop__: you'll have to use grub if you want to avoid the BIOS one time menu
[12:52] <Snoop__> ok how do i have grub as my main
[12:53] <EriC^^> filifunky: sudo cd doesnt do anything, cd is a built in command for bash
[12:53] <EriC^^> filifunky: try 'sudo -i' then "cd /path/to/dir"
[12:53] <nullbyte_> how can i increse more space for /tmp folder?
[12:53] <nullbyte_> to incrase just /tmp folder
[12:53] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:54] <Snoop__> o uhhh
[12:54] <Snoop__> something weird is going on
[12:54] <EriC^^> do tell :D
[12:54] <Snoop__> the screen is flipped and my cursor is on the other side
[12:55] <Snoop__> like everything is mirrored
[12:55] <EriC^^> try settings > display or so
[12:56] <filifunky> thanks EriC^^, worked
[12:56] <EriC^^> filifunky: great,no problem
[12:56] <nagaraj_> hey
[12:56] <nagaraj_> hey
[12:58] <Snoop__> nothing on display settings
[12:58] <Snoop__> my mouse is upside down
[13:01] <EriC^^> Snoop__: hmm odd, try for now opening a terminal with "ctrl+alt+t"
[13:02] <EriC^^> to clean up the uefi entries and try to set grub as the default bootloader
[13:02] <noodlecan> how do I list installable kernel's with apt if the kernel says it is being held back "linux-generic linux-headers-generic"  I am looking for the available kernel version that would be installed if I ran (--with-new-pkgs) only w/o installing as in when running --just-print with apt
[13:04] <Snoop__> alright got it open
[13:07] <dym> Hey all! Im trying to generate a situation where only the connection of certain hosts to ssh is allowed via key based authentication. This doesnt seem to work and offer third hosts a password based auth: https://pastebin.com/raw/6tbp4X7t - why is that and how do i correct it?
[13:07] <akkonrad> I've installed ubuntu 18.04 and I have some issues when running apps installed by snap. I get this error: https://www.pastery.net/vquuwq/
[13:07] <akkonrad> but reinstalling the app does not help.
[13:07] <akkonrad> and funny thing - it was wokring previously, but suddenly some apps stopped
[13:08] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:09] <Snoop__> alright
[13:10] <EriC^^> Snoop__: any link it gave back?
[13:10] <Snoop__> http://termbin.com/dc0u
[13:10] <EriC^^> ok the bootcurrent is 0000, so thats what we want to keep
[13:11] <Snoop__> ok
[13:11] <EriC^^> Snoop__: type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0001
[13:11] <EriC^^> Snoop__: also type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0003
[13:12] <EriC^^> now it gets tricky, some uefi are designed to only boot microsoft, unless you modify some settings in the bios, as a start we could try to disable the windows entry and that might work
[13:12] <EriC^^> what make is the pc?
[13:13] <Snoop__> its a Nuvision Duo 10
[13:13] <noodlecan> further description of my question, i can run ap-cache search "pkg" but that only gives me a list of available kernels, I am not sure which of the available kernels would be the next in line.  Example.  my workstation running kernel is 4.18.0-16 but when i do apt-cache search i see everything from 4.14.x.x through 4.18.0-17 which I assume would be
[13:13] <noodlecan> the next available kernel, but are all kernel upgrades single point updates or will version be skipped if say patching is something like quarterly.  - Thanks
[13:13] <EriC^^> Snoop__: did you notice any uefi list in the bios where you can switch the order of the entries? or 'trust' a certain entry
[13:14] <Snoop__> i can switch the order of the entries idk about the trust part tho
[13:14] <EriC^^> Snoop__: oh great, try to set the ubuntu one before the windows
[13:14] <Snoop__> alright
[13:15] <EriC^^> Snoop__: in the future, you'll have to once in a while run 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge' so that the old kernels that stack up in /boot get deleted and it doesnt hog up the space there
[13:16] <EriC^^> it's not too bad though every kernel/initrd are like 30mb or so combined so you have some way room before it starts filling up heavily
[13:16] <Snoop__> ah ok
[13:25] <rek> hi guys i connected my 3g dongle using wvdial which brings up a pp0 interface but i get packet filtered trying to ping google... which rule is wrong?
[13:29] <compdoc>  wvdial uses rules?
[13:30] <rek> iptables does
[13:30] <compdoc> so you setup iptables
[13:30] <Snoop__> got it working EriC
[13:31] <rek> i don't know what i should add there...generally all it's open at least for outgoing connections
[13:31] <compdoc> icmp packets for pings
[13:35] <rek> https://pastebin.com/9EPxSeG1 compdoc my current config
[13:36] <compdoc> rek, you might ask in ##networking. I've never used iptables
[13:41] <ocx32> libsrtp2-dev cannot be installed on ubuntu 16?
[13:44] <Snoop__> alright im going to bed now Thanks again EriC!
[13:45] <hiya> would this https://www.amazon.in/HP-Workstation-Generation-Processor-Dedicated/dp/B07KK5DMFB work just fine with Ubuntu?
[13:46] <tnewman> salutations all!
[13:47] <tnewman> i'm running ubuntu server (headless) on my laptop, and i'm having some issues with keyboard shortcuts not working right with byobu
[13:47] <tnewman> for example, ctrl-F2 does not create a vertical split.  they keyboard shortcut is ignored.
[13:48] <tnewman> i presume that its because the terminal (?) is intercepting it before it gets to byobu
[13:50] <EriC^> Snoop__: no problem! gn
[14:14] <rapidwave> Where do I find Android SDK within Java SKD?
[14:14] <leftyfb> !ot | rapidwave
[14:14] <rapidwave> I'm trying to configure Eclipse, but can't find the right directory to give it
[14:15] <rapidwave> Oh okay
[14:39] <dante-as> Hi guys, do you know where is moved the /etc/init.d/rc in Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:43] <baako> hi guys i ran npm install and got cked files                  │ _W_
[14:43] <baako>           │15:42:09    baako | _ik
[14:44] <baako> Unhandled rejection Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir
[14:50] <bluezone> I need to run a python script as a kind of service. Something that automatically starts if the server is restarted and restarts if the scripts crashes, etc... Does anyone know how to accomplish this on a ubuntu vm ?
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: You might want to look into setting up as a cron job. This channel isn't really intended for those types of support questions. You may find better luck in #python, ##linux, or in a channel dedicated to programming/development work.
[14:53] <bluezone> pragmaticenigma: Was going to ask in ##linux but it says I'm banned lol
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: You can use !alis to search for channels
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> !register | bluezone
[14:53] <bluezone> I am registered afaik
[14:53] <bluezone> thanks
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: Did you try accessing ##linux via #linux?
[14:54] <bluezone> pragmaticenigma: Yeah #linux tells me I have to be invited
[14:54] <leftyfb> bluezone: ##linux
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: that's why you can't get into ##linux... close out all connections to IRC from your machine, and then go directly to ##linux when you restart the IRC application... give yourself about 5 to 10 minutes before restarting your IRC client
[14:55] <bluezone> leftyfb: that one says I'm banned
[14:55] <bluezone> Hmm okay, it's possible they don't like irccloud connections either
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: They don't
[14:55] <cryptodan> you got be a paying subscriber to irccloud for ##linux
[14:55] <leftyfb> bluezone: to answer your question: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-systemd-service-unit-in-linux
[14:55] <bluezone> thanks
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> bluezone: most of the channels here do not allow proxy origin connections
[15:08] <admin0> hi .. in my ubuntu server, / is 100% full but du -sh /*  does not give me anything .. how do I check what is causing this ?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> admin0: come join #ubuntu-server please
[15:08] <admin0> lotuspsychje, thanks .. did not knew :)
[15:16] <whislock> lotuspsychje: There's nothing wrong with server support here.
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> whislock: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:18] <Th3Mafia> I know 14.04 is really old but looking to install php5-snmp via apt, can someone direct me to changes I can make in /etc/apt to make that work?
[15:19] <cryptodan> Th3Mafia: you do realize that support for 14.04 ends this month
[15:20] <Th3Mafia> cryptodan: hmm, no something must be wrong somewhere else, I'll check. Thanks
[15:21] <cryptodan> so if its not in the repos then maybe the repo owners have started clearing out 14.04 supported files
[15:35] <mr-robot> hi all any body here?
[15:38] <leftyfb> !support | mr-robot
[15:41] <mr-robot> so i can ask in here or what? leftyfb
[15:41] <leftyfb> !ask | mr-robot
[15:41] <mr-robot> okay that was fast
[15:43] <mr-robot> i wanna know what is the best partition making for ubuntu to stop the lag i have 2 gb ram and a low performance pc
[15:43] <mr-robot> i use ubunti with the <win10>
[15:43] <leftyfb> mr-robot: different partition schemes are not going to give you better performance.
[15:47] <mr-robot> this wasn't helpful
[15:47] <Obuntu> hello
[15:47] <mr-robot> i will set up linux again i will delet this once
[15:48] <Obuntu> is someone here?
[15:48] <compdoc> use a different desktop for performance. ubuntu defaults to ext4, and theres nothing worng with that
[15:48] <mr-robot> what is the best swap area and this stuff
[15:48] <lordcirth__> Obuntu, yes, do you have a support question?
[15:48] <leftyfb> mr-robot: you asked a question and were given a valid answer. What part wasn't helpful? Do you have another question?
[15:48] <compdoc> there is no more swap partition
[15:49] <lordcirth__> mr-robot, What Ubuntu version and flavor? Installing Xubuntu may improve your performance.
[15:49] <mr-robot> kubuntu
[15:49] <leftyfb> mr-robot: you can add a larger swap, but that also isn't going to help you if your performance issue isn't due to memory or your hard drive is old/slow.
[15:49] <compdoc> I like mate
[15:50] <EriC^^> mr-robot: is it actually using swap?
[15:50] <mr-robot> okay thanks so 4 gb for swap? and the rest for (ext4 / ) root?
[15:50] <lordcirth__> mr-robot, 18.04 makes a swap file, not a swap partition, by default.
[15:51] <lordcirth__> Swap files are more flexible.
[15:51] <EriC^^> mr-robot: adding more swap won't necessarily solve anything unless you're using up the memory a lot
[15:51] <leftyfb> mr-robot: again, swap will NOT help you if your issue is not related to memory exhaustion or your hard drive is old and/or slow
[15:51] <mr-robot> yeah iam going to setup the 19.04
[15:51] <leftyfb> mr-robot: 19.04 is not released or supported yet
[15:51] <mr-robot> i do ERIC^^
[15:51] <EriC^^> mr-robot: maybe try to pinpoint the problem
[15:52] <EriC^^> mr-robot: what does "free -h" say about "available" when the lag occurs
[15:52] <EriC^^> also i think using swap would kinda be crappy, as it's so slow, maybe get more ram if you absolutely need it
[15:52] <mr-robot> okay thanks leftyfb i get it i will improve my pc :(
[15:53] <EriC^^> mr-robot: it might be a memory leak, too much cpu usage from some bug, etc hone down on the problem dont throw money/swap/etc at it
[15:53] <mr-robot> i don't even know what is free -h
[15:53] <leftyfb> mr-robot: you have yet to provide any further information on the specs of your machine beyond memory or the exactly symptoms. Slowness could be caused by several issues unrelated to memory
[15:54] <EriC^^> mr-robot: when the lag occurs, save an output of "free -h; ps aux | sort -k 3; sensors"
[15:55] <EriC^^> you'll need to install "lm-sensors" package via sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[15:55] <mr-robot> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/19.04/beta/kubuntu-19.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:55] <EriC^^> also maybe run a smart test on the hdd, why not
[15:56] <leftyfb> mr-robot: 19.04 is not released or supported yet
[15:56] <mr-robot> okay eric thanks i'll do it
[15:56] <EriC^^> np
[15:56] <mr-robot> yeah it's beta
[15:56] <leftyfb> mr-robot: right, and unsupported here
[15:56] <lordcirth__> mr-robot, /join #ubuntu+1
[15:56] <leftyfb> mr-robot: I would highly suggest you stick with LTS releases (18.04)
[15:57] <EriC^^> +1
[15:57] <mr-robot> okay then i should reinstall it
[15:57] <EriC^^> if you absolutely are keen to test another version maybe 16.04
[15:57] <mr-robot> iam a fan i have all the ubuntu flavors  and this is the best\
[15:58] <EriC^^> mr-robot: i'd follow leftyfb 's instructions then ;)
[15:58] <mr-robot> okay thanks man
[15:59] <EriC^^> sure, np
[16:01] <mr-robot> mr-robot@f-sosiety:~$ free -h
[16:01] <mr-robot>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[16:01] <mr-robot> Mem:          1.9Gi       512Mi       732Mi       136Mi       693Mi       1.1Gi
[16:01] <mr-robot> Swap:         5.6Gi       657Mi       4.9Gi
[16:03] <mr-robot> iam not usinng any thing now just the hexchat
[16:03] <mr-robot> and konsole
[16:07] <lordcirth__> mr-robot, ok, and is it slow right now?   Higher values will increase aggressiveness, lower values decrease the amount of swap. [..] The default value is 60." source: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
[16:44] <brektyme> tomreyn: sorry, I wasn't clear I was trying to help mr-robot, I know what vm.swappiness is
[16:45] <tomreyn> brektyme: oh you were just asking them what their's was set to, i see.
[16:49] <brektyme> yeah, it sounds like the system is older, which would likely have slower rotational hard disks, which when you start swaping is going to drag your system down quickly
[16:50] <brektyme> the default of 60 is rather aggressive, and if they are just doing a single task at time, like browsing the web etc. setting it to something like 30 or 40 might help
[16:50] <whislock> Setting the swappiness value lower can actually result in worse performance.
[16:50] <deadrom> hi
[16:51] <brektyme> yeah if you're trying to do too much, if you're doing only a few tasks at a time less swapping would be better, esspeically on very old hardware
[16:52] <whislock> Even then, lowering the swappiness value can hurt you.
[16:52] <deadrom> Thinkpad T530 on dock with external displays, lid closed. Want to have boot message on 1st external display, not on laptop. BIOS only gives me "laptop lcd or VGA". displays are DP, should I still go for VGA since it is "external"? any settings in the system that take care of what happnes when closing the lid?
[16:54] <tomreyn> deadrom: that's all hardware / firmware.
[16:59] <deadrom> tomreyn: gonna bug the Thinkpad forums then
[17:01] <tiptop> hi@ll, is this correct?:  su - myusername .... crontab -e .... @reboot /home/myusername/myscript.sh .... for starting a script with with the userRights of the user myusername? (must i put the line<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in a right order?)
[17:02] <tomreyn> tiptop: that's all correct
[17:04] <tomreyn> tiptop: but don't do su -, do sudo instead
[17:05] <tiptop> tomreyn: , but i thought.....sudo is to exicute with root rights, isnt it??
[17:05] <tomreyn> "sudo -u myusername -- crontab -e" or "sudo -u myusername -i" followed by "crontab -e", or even simpler, "sudo contab -u myusername -e"
[17:05] <tomreyn> tiptop: not only, no.
[17:06] <tiptop> tomreyn: , i got it. :)
[17:07] <tomreyn> quote from first sentence of the sudo man page: "DESCRIPTION: sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser *or another user*, as specified by the security policy."
[17:07] <tiptop> tomreyn: must i put the line<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in a right order?
[17:08] <Zuverink> tomreyn, NEVER su, ALWAYS sudo. Safety. Never run as root.
[17:08] <tomreyn> Zuverink: i assume you meant to tell tiptop
[17:08] <Zuverink> tomreyn, yup, sorry.
[17:09] <tomreyn> tiptop: "@reboot" goes to the begining of a line, the script to execute is next, separated by whitespace.
[17:09] <tiptop> Zuverink: , just "su - username" ....to change the user and change to homedir for this one.
[17:11] <tiptop> tomreyn: , yeah, i know....its a single line and it isnt important if it would be the first line of the crontab or the last one, right?
[17:14] <nisankhindia> do anyone else experienced this bug on 18.04 LTS .. even though root access or root user disabled , one can elavate the access to superuser
[17:16] <tomreyn> tiptop: not unless you had variables affecting the environment set before or later, no.
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> nisankhindia: explain how you are doing that?
[17:16] <Bashing-om> nisankhindia: That is default for the first user that is created at install. That user has the ability to escalate privileges.
[17:16] <tomreyn> tiptop: i'm sure all of this is also discussed in the man page, though.
[17:16] <tiptop> tomreyn: , thx. :)
[17:16] <nisankhindia> all users access getting elavated to superuser access
[17:17] <nisankhindia> even though i have forced to disable or delete root password
[17:18] <nisankhindia> metasploit framework used
[17:18] <nisankhindia> let me show you using some snapshots
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> nisankhindia: if you find a security flaw in ubuntu, pelase report that to the #ubuntu-hardened guys
[17:20] <nisankhindia> preparing for technical note for exploit-db
[17:23] <tomreyn> either way, not a support topic.
[17:33] <qwebirc94353> Hello, i need some help with playing HD videos
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc94353: explain whats going on please?
[17:34] <lordcirth__> qwebirc94353, what problem are you having?
[17:34] <qwebirc94353> I am using a different Linux Distro and i love to know whether Ubuntu supports HD videos in Amazon Prime and Netflix
[17:35] <leftyfb> yes, it does
[17:36] <qwebirc94353> Is it, i tried few distros and everything ended up in playing the Videos in SD format instead of HD
[17:36] <qwebirc94353> Will the live version of Ubuntu allow to test the Video format?
[17:37] <leftyfb> qwebirc94353: I'm playing a netflix show right now. Netflix doesn't tell you what format it's playing in, but it looks HD to me
[17:38] <OerHeks> maybe chrome can .. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/07/how-to-stream-netflix-videos-at-1080p.html
[17:38] <leftyfb> yes, I'm using chrome
[17:38] <qwebirc94353> Ok, i usually get a HD icon in the bottom of Amazon Prime and the video will play in 1080p. But nowadays i am not able to stream in 1080p, instead it streams in 480P
[17:38] <fleabeard> hello friends, quick question about ssh. Is it safe to have the PubKeyAuthentication set to yes in my sshd_config? I have a few linux environments I'd like to give access to this server and always get the "Permission denied (publickey)" error when trying to ssh-copy-id. Thanks
[17:38] <leftyfb> Amazon Video looks fine to me as well
[17:39] <qwebirc94353> @leftyfb, do you see the HD icon in the bottom of the videos?
[17:39] <leftyfb> fleabeard: you need password auth first in order for ssh-copy-id to work
[17:40] <fleabeard> leftyfb, oh, okay. I have password auth disabled for security purposes.
[17:40] <Bashing-om> !info libdvd-pkg bionic
[17:40] <fleabeard> leftyfb, I guess my only option is to add this key manually through the one machine that does have ssh access to the server?
[17:40] <leftyfb> fleabeard: how do you expect to ssh in without having the public key uploaded if you have password auth disabled?
[17:41] <fleabeard> leftyfb, I'm new, so please don't expect me to explain my reasoning :)
[17:42] <qwebirc94353> The maximum GB the video uses nowadays is 1.17GB (Best) before it used to show 6.83 GB (Best)
[17:42] <qwebirc94353> I think it should give Ubuntu Budgie a try and see whether i am able to play HD videos
[17:42] <OerHeks> qwebirc94353, i think it is not the distro, but browser that makes the difference
[17:43] <tiptop> is this correct?: to start a script with different switches in different tmux-sessions as detached.... https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ
[17:43] <OerHeks> and 1.17 sounds like 720p
[17:43] <stoffepojken> 2
[17:43] <qwebirc94353> I use Firefox 66.0.2 (64-bit) and Chrome latest build
[17:44] <qwebirc94353> And my Kernel is 5.0.5-113.current
[17:44] <OerHeks> qwebirc94353, nice, but that sounds not like a supported ubuntu ?
[17:44] <duraga1> Hello
[17:45] <qwebirc94353> I am not using Ubuntu now, if Ubuntu has no issue with HD videos then i will switch from my current distro to Ubuntu Budgie
[17:45] <qwebirc94353> So before doing that i want to make sure it works without any flaw
[17:46] <ceibal> gygy
[17:46] <OerHeks> qwebirc94353, no other option then to try
[17:46] <ceibal> bhuhuhiwjeihoioyt6
[17:46] <ceibal> jdhuhsit66r5rPo
[17:46] <lordcirth__> ceibal, please don't spam
[17:47] <qwebirc94353> @OerHeks, then can i do that using Live verison?
[17:47] <leftyfb> qwebirc94353: try ubuntu and let us know if you have an issue. We're not going to troubleshoot an issue you don't currently have with ubuntu
[17:47] <OerHeks> qwebirc94353, that requires to update firefox, install multimedia codex,  maybe yes
[17:48] <qwebirc94353> Ok leftyfb, sorry about that. I thought first i get a confirmation and i install it in my PC
[17:48] <ceibal> rdh
[17:48] <OerHeks> the post with url says it can be done, with google-chrome
[17:49] <ceibal> dfr
[17:49] <qwebirc94353> I will try and work with Ubutntu  this weekend and if i still face the issue i will come back again.
[17:49] <ceibal> cdrd
[17:49] <qwebirc94353> Thanks leftyfb and 0erHeks :)
[17:49] <ceibal> jaja
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc94353: There are too many factors to provide an accurate hypothetical assumption about the capabilities of your computer, internet connection speed, the software that the streaming provider has written and its ability to accurately to determine the capabilities of your machine
[17:50] <tiptop> qwebirc94353: another nice way to get it on would be an installation on a flash drive. it gives u the option to install progams and come back with ur settings.
[17:50] <ceibal> mateo
[17:51] <lordcirth__> tiptop, full installs on USB tend to wear it out pretty quickly, though.
[17:51] <pragmaticenigma> tiptop: The problem with the flash drive method is it is restricted to the IO capabilities of the USB channel. It won't provide an accurate test result
[17:51] <qwebirc94353> Thank you all for the help, too bad i didn't try Ubuntu and come here with the question.
[17:52] <tiptop> pragmaticenigma: , affirmative.
[17:52] <qwebirc94353> Will be back by Saturday or Sunday and get the required help
[17:52] <qwebirc94353> Take care and thank you for the wonderful replies
[17:53] <OerHeks> qwebirc94353, have fun!
[17:55] <Sbur3> How do I get as user read-write access to /dev/sde1 ?
[17:57] <OerHeks> Sbur3, what filesystem is on that sde1?
[17:58] <Sbur3> OerHeks I think I put ext3 on it. If I would have an easier job with another type, tell me that
[17:59] <leftyfb> Sbur3: mount it with the correct permissions
[17:59] <lordcirth__> Sbur3, point is, you don't give users access to block devices, you give them access to directories
[18:00] <Sbur3> leftyfb I already tried chown ...
[18:00] <lordcirth__> You configure /etc/fstab to mount it, and then you make them the owner of that directory, or perhaps a group
[18:00] <lordcirth__> Sbur3, and what didn't work?
[18:00] <tiptop> is this correct?: to start a script with different switches in different tmux-sessions as detached.... https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ
[18:00] <leftyfb> Sbur3: chown'ing won't matter if it's not mounted with the correct permissions
[18:01] <lordcirth__> tiptop, well, does it work for you?
[18:01] <Sbur3> lordcirth__ it is a usb key at 2tb.
[18:02] <Sbur3> leftyfb it says that it is owned by root. the rest is read only
[18:03] <leftyfb> Sbur3: right, not mounted properly
[18:04] <Sbur3> leftyfb That isn’t everything. I did a f3probe on it. f3probe said it wasn’t a 2tb. but gparted and thunar says it is
[18:05] <OerHeks> 2 Tb .. i would change that to ext4
[18:05] <lordcirth__> Sbur3, so, you bought a fake drive?
[18:05] <tiptop> lordcirth__: it seams to be right, but: is there no cramping with tiks (') nessasary (for the switches)? https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ
[18:05] <lordcirth__> Did you say this was a USB key, or is it an external hard drive?
[18:06] <lordcirth__> tiptop, you could use '--' to end tmux's flag parsing
[18:06] <leftyfb> Sbur3: hold on. You mean to tell us you have a 2tb USB flash drive? You know, the ones that cost over $1000 USD?
[18:07] <leftyfb> Sbur3: if you spent less than 1000, or even less than 500, it's not a 2TB flash drive. You got scammed.
[18:07] <lordcirth__> Except that f3probe flagged it as a fake
[18:07] <leftyfb> yep
[18:09] <Sbur3> OerHeks lordcirth__ usb flash drive. bought out of germany. living in next door Belgium. he showed windows showing it at 2tb
[18:09] <leftyfb> Sbur3: yep, it will show as 2tb, and keep overwriting data when it hits it's actual limit. It's not 2TB
[18:10] <lordcirth__> he quit
[18:13] <tiptop> Sbur3:, https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fct%2Fausgabe%2F2015-11-Gefaelschte-USB-Sticks-und-Speicherkarten-bei-Aliexpress-und-eBay-2622598.html
[18:14] <Eickmeyer> tiptop: They quit.
[18:23] <woenx> Hey, is there a possible to a screenshot of a program with an open dialog?
[18:24] <woenx> I want to submit a screenshot for a bug report... but  I can't capture a dropdown menu
[18:26] <woenx> nevermind, I figured it out
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: Print Screen Key?
[18:36] <woenx> pragmaticenigma, no, the key does not work if a dropdown menu is open
[18:36] <woenx> and the capture tool in Ubuntu, which lets you delay for a few seconds the capture, only captures drop-down menus if the fullscreen is selected
[18:37] <woenx> it took me a while
[18:38] <gilles_> bonjour
[18:38] <gilles_> probleme avec Skype sur ubuntu
[18:39] <leftyfb> !it | gilles_
[18:39] <leftyfb> oops
[18:39] <leftyfb> !fr | gilles_
[18:39] <gilles_> skype don t work over ubuntu
[18:39] <gilles_> unable to connect
[18:40] <gilles_> with good id and pwd,   why ?
[18:40] <lordcirth__> gilles_, Didn't Microsoft drop support for Skype on Linux years ago?
[18:41] <leftyfb> gilles_: skype connects just fine for me
[18:42] <elias_a> Skype works perfectly for me too.
[18:43] <leftyfb> gilles_: what version of ubuntu?
[18:43] <gilles_> wich version  please ?
[18:43] <marchesini> Perfect for me
[18:43] <leftyfb> gilles_: what version of ubuntu?
[18:43] <gilles_> yes
[18:43] <leftyfb> gilles_: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:43] <gilles_> 4.3
[18:43] <leftyfb> no
[18:43] <leftyfb> !fr | gilles_
[18:43] <leftyfb>  gilles_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[18:43] <gilles_> i try to install newerversion but it doesn(t work
[18:44] <leftyfb> gilles_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:44] <gilles_> I TRY to speak ENGLISh !!
[18:44] <tiptop> lordcirth__: , sry, "tiptop, you could use '--' to end tmux's flag parsing"....i dont unstand: what r u meaning with "flag parsing"?
[18:44] <leftyfb> gilles_: Sorry, but not well enough to help you. Please ask for help in #ubuntu-fr
[18:45] <gilles_> ok
[18:45] <OerHeks> gilles_, only the skype snap works
[18:45] <leftyfb> ^
[18:45] <OerHeks> https://snapcraft.io/skype
[18:45] <lordcirth__> tiptop, you are worried about '-a' being parsed as an option to tmux, right? Most commands will take a '--' to mean 'stop treating - as special after this'
[18:45] <leftyfb> OerHeks: but we also don't know what version of ubuntu they're running and if snaps will even work
[18:45] <OerHeks> 4.3 is from the repos, should be deleted
[18:46] <leftyfb> they didn't even bother joining the other channel :/
[18:51] <tiptop> lordcirth__: i noticed it at some switches e.g: "pwd -L"/"pwd --logical" , but: does "pwd --L" work, too??
[18:52] <lordcirth__> tiptop, --word means the arg 'word', -word means '-w -o -r -d'
[19:10] <jack> odd question: does "apt-get install minecraft-installer" work for anyone?
[19:10] <lordcirth__> jack, what goes wrong for you?
[19:10] <leftyfb> jack: wrong question. Are you having an issue with it?
[19:11] <jack> lordcirth__:  https://www.minecraft.net/android-icon-192x192.png doesnt exist (anymore)
[19:11] <leftyfb> jack: minecraft-installer is not a package in ubuntu
[19:11] <Bashing-om> !info minecraft-installer bionic | jack
[19:11] <jack> so it fails :/
[19:11] <leftyfb> jack: minecraft-installer is not a package in ubuntu
[19:12] <jack> weird, ok
[19:12] <jack> sorry
[19:13] <ioria> jack, maybe you're referring to a ppa
[19:13] <jack> uh, no idea
[19:14] <jack> i'm using linuxmint ;)
[19:14] <jack> sorry.
[19:15] <leftyfb> !mint | jack
[19:16] <jack> is "bionic" the current ubuntu release?
[19:16] <leftyfb> jack: it's the latest LTS release of ubuntu
[19:16] <jack> i see
[19:16] <leftyfb> jack: 18.10 is the latest release with 19.04 being released in the coming weeks
[19:17] <jack> cool
[19:39] <jack> downloading ubuntu-18.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:40] <jack> let's see....might beat my mint :)
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> !discuss | jack
[19:43] <jack> meow. ok.
[19:51] <analogical> is 19.04 done?
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> Nope
[19:52] <OerHeks> April 18, 2019
[19:52] <qwebirc93836> Hi all
[19:54] <qwebirc93836> how come that the ubuntu software store offers the 'old' firefox version? Is there a way to get the new version quicker through the Ubuntu software store? Or should I manually install it from the mozilla website and update it that way? I really enjoy the ease of updating and installing an app through the software store
[19:55] <OerHeks> qwebirc93836, softwarecenter gives the latest only.
[19:55] <OerHeks> !info firefox bionic
[19:55] <leftyfb> qwebirc93836: is there a particular feature you need that's available in 66.03 that isn't available in 66.2?
[19:56] <OerHeks> oh, 66.0.3 - April 9... it will soon hit the repos i guess
[19:57] <ioria> it's available via snap btw
[19:58] <leftyfb> qwebirc93836: just be patient
[19:59] <qwebirc93836> No but I am just curious
[19:59] <d0tsun7> Any tips on installing old (GeForce 7 Series) graphics drivers in Ubuntu 18.04?
[19:59] <d0tsun7> I've disabled nouvea but I cannot get past building the kernel module.
[19:59] <qwebirc93836> Let's say that a version would fix a vulnerability
[19:59] <leftyfb> qwebirc93836: 66.03 was released 2 days ago. Give it some time.
[20:00] <qwebirc93836> people who use the store are than still vulnerable for some days
[20:00] <qwebirc93836> I will
[20:00] <leftyfb> then use chrome
[20:01] <OerHeks> https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[20:01] <qwebirc93836> @oerheks that is the latest version isnt it
[20:03] <OerHeks> qwebirc93836, yes, but .3 should be available too, in our repos, soon.
[20:03] <qwebirc93836> Alright thanks for the info. Is there any way that I could contribute to getting popular apps quicker into the official repo's?
[20:05] <OerHeks> qwebirc93836, for this mainstream application, you don't have too, if you find an other app, that could be upgraded, you could file an !SRU
[20:05] <OerHeks> !sru
[20:06] <qwebirc93836> Thanks! I will for Virtual Box.
[20:06] <qwebirc93836> Enjoy your day!
[20:09] <Hassan> hi guys i wanna backup my files from ubuntu dtive to another drive but i can't make any changes in there
[20:10] <Hassan> simpley: how can i make changes on a usb drive or c: drive
[20:10] <Hassan> i tried chmod
[20:10] <leftyfb> Hassan: linux does not have a "c: drive"
[20:10] <leftyfb> Hassan: can you provide a little bit more detail/clarification?
[20:11] <Hassan> yeah that's the point i want to move a video for example to my "win"
[20:13] <leftyfb> Hassan: what version of ubuntu are you running right now?
[20:14] <Hassan> 18.04 lts
[20:14] <leftyfb> Hassan: ok, and you have a 2nd drive plugged in that you want to copy files from Ubuntu onto?
[20:14] <OerHeks> *if* that windows is windows 10, it uses probably exfat ? sudo fdisk -l # would tell
[20:15] <lordcirth__> exfat? I thought Windows always used NTFS
[20:15] <Hassan> sudo chmod a+rwx /media/7assan/BackUp
[20:15] <Hassan> that code is a trash
[20:15] <leftyfb> Hassan: because is solves a problem you have yet to explain you have
[20:15] <Hassan> okay iam sorry i wasnt clear
[20:16] <Hassan> it's not another deive
[20:16] <tiptop> there is a problem (@tmux), but i am sure the problems r the switches....the r not cramped with tiks (') or quotes (")....these r parts of switches. :/ https://pastebin.com/PGAgAvnX
[20:16] <leftyfb> Hassan: Please explain in detail exactly what it is you're trying to accomplish and what your setup is with Ubuntu and Windows
[20:16] <Hassan> it's another partition
[20:16] <Hassan> okay
[20:16] <Hassan> now i have 3 partition's
[20:17] <leftyfb> !enter | Hassan
[20:17] <Hassan> 1st is windows 2nd is BackUp 3rd is ubuntu
[20:18] <leftyfb> Hassan: ok, so open up your "BackUp" partition in your file manager and drop and drop your files to it
[20:19] <Hassan> iam not this bad man!
[20:19] <lordcirth__> tiptop, it might be simpler to write the command you want to run in a script, then just have tmux run it. Less layers of escaping that way
[20:20] <Hassan> could not write to /media/7assan/BackUp
[20:20] <leftyfb> Hassan: please pastebin or screenshot the exact error message
[20:20] <deanc> Good evening. I have found the performance of vnc with vino to be extremely poor compared to using remote desktop on windows 7 prior to this. Any suggestions? Even over LAN it's slow and laggy/unresponsive
[20:21] <leftyfb> deanc: try x11vnc for the server
[20:21] <deanc> any reason you suggest it?
[20:21] <leftyfb> deanc: also, VNC and RDC are completely different protocols on completely different operating systems. You cannot compare the two
[20:21] <leftyfb> deanc: because you asked for a suggestion
[20:22] <deanc> Of course I can compare them.  Post links here
[20:23] <tiptop> lordcirth__: , okay, thx. :
[20:23] <tiptop> lordcirth__: , okay, thx. :^)
[20:23] <Hassan> okay wait
[20:24] <deanc> leftyfb: i can add -rfbport 5901 to run on another port to what you pasrted?
[20:25] <leftyfb> I think you would do that with :1 if you have a 2nd xserver running. If you want just a different port for absolutely no benefit, then sure, use rfbport
[20:25] <deanc> well vino is running on 5900 already
[20:25] <leftyfb> deanc: remove vino?
[20:26] <leftyfb> or at least disable it
[20:26] <deanc> it took me about 30mins to get it working and i had to use another client for the timebeing
[20:28] <deanc> oh my days leftyfb
[20:28] <deanc> this is like night and day difference
  https://ufile.io/cxcfr
[20:29] <deanc> also it works with stock osx screen sharing, that was easy :)
[20:29] <leftyfb> Hassan: please use a site like imgur to just display a screenshot so we do not have to download anything.
[20:30] <Hassan> okay man
[20:30] <Hassan> but if that will help iam using kubuntu
[20:39] <J> Hello!
[20:39] <lordcirth__> J, hi
[20:40] <Guest35509> I am having trouble finding the correct search terms>
[20:40] <Guest35509> I am looking to setup a server for my friend and I to develop software on, where we an both have our own terminal environments and be logged in at the same time
[20:41] <Guest35509> Can anyone make some recommendations for what to research?
[20:41] <leftyfb> Guest35509: linux server
[20:41] <leftyfb> !ot | Guest35509
[20:41] <lordcirth__> Guest35509, just make two non-root users, and install your stuff?
[20:42] <Guest35509> Yes, sorry for not being clear, I am hoping to run this on an ubuntu desktop. LordC, could we both ssh into our users in that case?
[20:43] <lordcirth__> Guest35509, if you install openssh-server, yes.
[20:44] <Guest35509> Excellent, and is there a direct way to manage how the computing resources are divided?
[20:44] <leftyfb> Guest35509: you could with something like lxd containers
[20:44] <leftyfb> Guest35509: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/introduction/
[20:45] <Guest35509> Thank you as well, lefty I will compare your suggestion
[20:45] <leftyfb> Guest35509: But again, this is offtopic here. Please try #ubuntu-offtopic , #lxcontainers or ##linux
[20:46] <Guest35509> To clarify, if I keep questioning regarding a ubuntu desktop/server, would I be off topic?
[20:47] <leftyfb> Guest35509: yes, since you're not running ubuntu and need help with it.
[20:47] <Guest35509> Understood, sorry for the disturbance
[20:49] <deanc> leftyfb: almost in business now, just trying to configure systemd service. journalctl -n shows "xauth: unable to generate an authority filename". I'm using the exact config documented here (with my username fixed): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.29
[20:50] <deanc> It's fllowed by some other errors: -auth guess: failed for display='unset'
[20:50] <deanc> it stgill starts though, although ic ant connect :)
[20:50] <deanc> the process is runnig
[20:53] <leftyfb> deanc: you need that service to run as your user
[20:54] <leftyfb> deanc: you might also need to set DISPLAY=:0; before the x11vnc command
[20:56] <deanc> how do i ensure the service runs as my user?
[20:57] <deanc> leftyfb: i added -display :0 as in your example to the ExecStart line
[20:58] <leftyfb> deanc: it's the "User=" part you add to your unit file.
[20:59] <deanc> https://termbin.com/g56m
[20:59] <deanc> how does that look now leftyfb/
[20:59] <leftyfb> no User section
[21:00] <deanc> So9rry forgot to write in the other tab
[21:00] <deanc> But i have User=<myuser> in the [Service] section
[21:00] <deanc> it works now, thank you!
[21:01] <deanc> i'll read up a bit more on those flags so i understand what they are doing but this will be fine for now as this is only accessible over lan atm
[21:10] <evg1> I have two terminals open, but in switching windows menu see only one, and can't get to the second with Alt+Tab.
[21:12] <evg1> I used DOWN to get to next menu. Can I get all windows in first loop?
[21:12] <tomreyn> evg1: you shoould rpobably tell which desktop environment you run on which ubuntu version
[21:12] <evg1> 19.04 gnome
[21:12] <leftyfb> evg1: not with the default DE in Ubuntu 18.04 and newer
[21:12] <leftyfb> evg1: 19.04 is not released or supported yet
[21:12] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | evg1
[21:12] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that is a REALLY annoying bug though ... drives me nuts
[21:13] <leftyfb> tomreyn: though, the devs will just call it a feature
[21:15] <tomreyn> leftyfb: use the alternatetab extension
[21:15] <evg1> can I not see /dev/loop  in df command?
[21:16] <tomreyn> evg1: df reports the status of mounted file systems
[21:16] <adrian_> Hello, everyone, first time using this chat. I am having a problem with apt update. It has never given me any problems whatsoever, but now whenever I run sudo apt update I'm getting a 'File has unexpected size' error. 'Mirror sync in progress'. I can paste the relevant output if necessary but it seems to be for the bionic-updates universe Translation-en. Has anybody had this issue before and if so how did you go about solving
[21:16] <adrian_> it?
[21:17] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that has it's own bug with Dash to Dock. It displays applications in the alt-tab results that you have icons for in your dock even if they're not running
[21:17] <tomreyn> adrian_: run this, it will return a web address you can post here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[21:17] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | evg1
[21:18] <evg1> tomreyn: I know, but why ubuntu have so many?
[21:18] <nshirelaptop> this is kind of a weird question but does anyone know where in memory the desktop background is stored or what it's referred to by?
[21:18] <evg1> I forgot I have 19.04 on laptop, desktop running 18.04
[21:19] <nshirelaptop> because every time I resume my laptop from sleep I get more and more artifacts on it
[21:19] <tomreyn> evg1: it's how snap works. you can remove some snaps, then you'll see less mounted file systems backed by loop devices.
[21:19] <leftyfb> evg1: df -x squashfs
[21:20] <adrian_> tomreyn: This is the URL that came up. https://termbin.com/n5t5
[21:21] <evg1> I'm not using snap, can I remove it compleatly? The snap packets have enormous size!
[21:21] <evg1> leftyfb: thanks, works
[21:22] <leftyfb> evg1: snap list # you are probably running some snaps that were installed by default
[21:23] <evg1> leftyfb: yes, gnome and its guts
[21:23] <leftyfb> tomreyn: also https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2018/10/11/the-future-of-alternatetab-and-why-you-need-not-worry/
[21:24] <tomreyn> adrian_: hmm maybe it's just a temporary error, i guess i'd try again the other day. if this issue persists tomorrow, please notify #ubuntu-mirrors about it
[21:26] <tomreyn> adrian_: you could probably work around it by using a mirror server which is actually located in uruguay (your current one is in brazil), namely https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/repo.cure.edu.uy-archive
[21:26] <adrian_> tomreyn: allright, thanks for the heads up, it is definitely an odd issue, at least for me.
[21:26] <tomreyn> adrian_: such can happen, but it should not usually last for more than a couple minutes. this file has, however, been broken for 8 hours now.
[21:28] <adrian_> tomryen: How exactly do I use that particular mirror server? I apologize for the rather rudimentary question but I have never run into this issue before.
[21:33] <tomreyn> adrian_: no worries, it's not something you need to do commonly. the easiest way to switch to a different mirror server temporarily is actually a different one: press alt-f2 and type "software-properties-gtk".
[21:33] <tomreyn> adrian_: there will be a drop-down-box for "Download from". Just pick a different country that is still close to you, there.
[21:34] <adrian_> tomreyn: Any way to do this from the shell? alt-f2 does nothing for me since I am running ubuntu but using i3 for the desktop.
[21:34] <tomreyn> adrian_: just type    software-properties-gtk     on the shell
[21:38] <adrian_> tomreyn: I tried running apt update again, and it works fine now for no reason at all.
[21:39] <adrian_> tomreyn: Thanks for your help though, really appreciate it!
[21:39] <tomreyn> adrian_: so it was really just a temporary issue on the mirror server, i guess. you're welcome!
[21:43] <adrian_> tomreyn: Seems like it, I got scared for a bit haha. I was deploying a couple of vagrant boxes and then I tried updating one of them and got the error. Returned to my local machine and the same error came up. For some reason there is not a lot of answers online regarding this issue. But, yes it seems it was temporary as you said.
[21:45] <tomreyn> adrian_: as the error message indicates, such can happen when you check / your computer checks for updated packages while the ubuntu mirror server you have configured is  currently receiving those updates itself.
[22:07] <cstk421> have an odd issue i think.  So Ubuntu server installed as a vm in vmware workstation player or the integrated one from the microsoft store will not allow me to ssh to the server via localhost if im connected to a vpn.  thoughts ?
[22:08] <cstk421> using shared networking of the host by the way
[22:10] <raver> Does the connection aborts if it existed before the VPN connection was established?
[22:12] <cstk421> yes
[22:12] <cstk421> its a full tunnel not split
[22:12] <jack> help, please
[22:12] <jack> The requested URL /ubuntu/releases/disco/ubuntu-19.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[22:13] <cstk421> just read i can do port forwarding in the vmware config i guess that may work. have to try when i get home.  i dont understand how ssh to localhost would be caught by the vpn network adapter
[22:13] <jack> how can i get that?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> jack: ubuntu dropped 32 bit images. They nno longer exist.
[22:15] <raver> You could create a virtual network card and connect it to the owner network again I guess
[22:15] <jack> Bashing-om: omg, ok
[22:15] <raver> Virtual Network card
[22:15] <OerHeks> jack,  you made that url up, or followed an wild blog?
[22:15] <cstk421> i have to have the vm be able to access the vpn network as well
[22:16] <raver> Ah ok
[22:16] <cstk421> i could have just used bridged networking to get around it but i lose the vpn access from the vm
[22:16] <Bashing-om> jack: Wjile xubuntu still had a 32 bit image - they too will drop the support.
[22:16] <cstk421> i found a few articles now regarding port forwarding with vmware conf changes.  i hope this will work
[22:17] <raver> I'm not very familiar With networking stuff sorry
[22:17] <jack> OerHeks: just took an amd64 url, replaced with i386
[22:17] <cstk421> raver: np i appreciate you looking
[22:18] <jack> need a 32bit one for my vbox ;)
[22:18] <raver> What about creating a second Network card in the vm?
[22:18] <cstk421> raver: not sure havent considered that guess i can try in a bit if the port forward doesnt work
[22:19] <OerHeks> get the 16.04 i386 or look at this list http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[22:20] <jack> ok
[22:28] <jack> getting kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-i386.iso :D
[22:29] <jack> OerHeks: you own!
[22:29] <OerHeks> have fun!
[22:29] <jack> i will :)
[22:32] <dStruct> hey all, I'm trying to install 18 server on to a Dell PowerEdge server and the installer is getting stuck on Applying Network Config (50%), however on another non-Dell server my USB drive installs just fine, am I missing something here?  Google hasn't provided anything definitive
[22:32] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | dStruct
[22:33] <dStruct> 18.04 LTS the latest version
[22:34] <tomreyn> and you're using the default server installer?
[22:34] <dStruct> tomreyn: that is correct, I downloaded it, check the iso, used the startup disc creator to make the USB, installed a non-dell server just fine, however this server is just getting stuck with no way to bypass the error
[22:35] <dStruct> I get to the Network connections screen, it shows my adapters, I leave everything alone and default to DHCP, when I hit the Done button at the bottom I get Applying Network Config 50% and the progress bar sticks there and then times out with a red message toward the bottom of the screen
[22:37] <dStruct> fwiw, 16.04 LTS was installed on this server and running just fine, I'm replacing the RAID and starting fresh
[22:38] <tomreyn> dStruct: what does the message say?
[22:38] <dStruct> tomreyn: in red, "Network configuration timed out; please verify your settings."
[22:39] <tomreyn> hmm, sounds like a dhcp issue then. but i understand you're saying it works with the same server and uubntu 16.04
[22:39] <dStruct> tomreyn: I am plugged into a DHCP available port on the network, so it should have no trouble requesting a DHCP address, the adapter works just fine, I even disabled my second adapter in BIOS hoping it was maybe confusing the installer, no change
[22:39] <dStruct> tomreyn: everything works perfect, no issues with the server, the install just will go past this error
[22:39] <Quozl> i've seen that happen when the network card driver i was relying on was dropped from the kernel and was then available as source instead.  it sucked.  i verified it by booting into rescue mode with both media, and using dmesg and lsmod to identify the driver selected.
[22:40] <Quozl> however, i have not seen it with the 16.04 to 18.04 transition.
[22:40] <dStruct> I would be shocked if Ubuntu dropped support for a Dell PowerEdge 1950's NIC adapter
[22:40] <Quozl> i'd be pleasantly surprised.  more billable time.  yay.
[22:40] <tomreyn> dStruct: if you switch to a different tty you can get a shell there by pressing enter and then view the logs at /var/log/installer
[22:41] <dStruct> NIC is a Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 gig-e adapter
[22:41] <dStruct> tomreyn: just did
[22:41] <tomreyn> but there's no more info to be found there?
[22:42] <dStruct> tomreyn: ok now I have something, running WaitForDefaultRouteTask(30) for stage timeout
[22:42] <dStruct> tomreyn: next message after that is timeout ended
[22:42] <tomreyn> so do you have an uncommon network configuration there such as a default gateway which is outside of the sibnet?
[22:42] <Quozl> bcm5708 is in the kernel.  module bnx2.
[22:43] <dStruct> tomreyn: I'm literally running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on this laptop, connected to the same network/switch/router/firewall everything
[22:43] <dStruct> desktop though..
[22:44] <tomreyn> yes, that's somewhat different
[22:44] <tomreyn> so, is the default gateway within your subnet, or one which requires a pointopoint like configuration to be used?
[22:44] <dStruct> I mean it should work even if there is no network cable
[22:45] <Quozl> there's bnx2 firmware files in /lib/firmware, so i'd also check dmesg of 16.04 against 18.04 to see what versions were reported.  the nic is it's own little system.
[22:45] <dStruct> it's just a standard network, gw is .1 ip is 100-254 ish
[22:45] <tomreyn> ok, can you file a bug report then?
[22:45] <dStruct> sigh
[22:45] <Quozl> another thing i'd do is compare the problem between cold and warm boot.  some drivers assume the bios will leave the card in a specific state.
[22:46] <tomreyn> dStruct: i also have a likely workaround for you, but the bug report would surely be helpful.
[22:46] <dStruct> Quozl: that's a good idea, Dell servers are tricky with warm and cold boot stuff
[22:46] <dStruct> tomreyn: I am all ears
[22:46] <tomreyn> dStruct: you can use the alternate server installer, which is based on the classic debian installer.
[22:47] <dStruct> tomreyn: that sounds like a plan to me
[22:47] <tomreyn> but it will probbaly go away sooner or later, so ... you may want to contribute to getting this fixed in the main installer.
[22:48] <dStruct> tomreyn: oh I very much support Ubuntu, I run it on just about everything, and it's basically my goto OS of choice for just about everything, so I am happy to contribute to helping fix any possibly driver issues
[22:48] <tomreyn> great.
[22:48] <dStruct> how do I trigger the alt installer, I do not get any kind of menu on boot up?
[22:49] <tomreyn> it's a separate iso, available from ubuntu.com
[22:49] <tomreyn> "Use the traditional installer"
[22:50] <dStruct> oh here we go, dmesg shows, bnx2: Can't load firmware file "bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw that explains it
[22:50] <Quozl> well, that's present on an installed 18.04 system.
[22:51] <Quozl> d8d623ae5934109ccfe8c041a1cf88ae is the md5sum i've got.  but why isn't it present on your installer image?  that's interesting.
[22:52] <dStruct> I wonder if I could simply drop it in without downloading the alt installer?
[22:52] <Quozl> whic of the 18.04 installer images have you used, and what version of linux-firmware package is installed?  (dpkg-query -W linux-firmware)
[22:52] <dStruct> Quozl: straight off the website a couple hours ago, standard 64-bit server image
[22:52] <Quozl> you might try that.  rmmod bnx2, drop the file, modprobe bnx2
[22:52] <tomreyn> bug 1751266
[22:53] <dStruct> Quozl: where might I place the fw file?
[22:53] <Quozl>  /lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
[22:53] <dStruct> Quozl: thank you :D
[22:53] <OerHeks> hmm, bionic gives a daily live .. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/
[22:53] <dStruct> tomreyn: so I take the fix hasn't made it in yet?
[22:53] <Quozl> i'd say it probably hasn't made it to the iso, unless you go for a daily live iso.
[22:54] <OerHeks> worth trying..
[22:54] <Quozl> but on the other hand, the fix should have been in last year.
[22:54] <dStruct> Quozl: should /lib/firmware/ exist on the booted installer tty?
[22:54] <tomreyn> dStruct: the bug report sas "fix released". i am still reading to understand which ubuntu 18.04 server installer it is available in, though. are you using 18.04.2? or .0? or .1? or .1.0?
[22:54] <Quozl> dStruct: ah, good point, maybe it's the initramfs.
[22:55] <dStruct> tomreyn: the latest off the website from a few hours ago
[22:55] <jack> getting kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-i386.iso from 37 peers, 739 kb/s - life is sweet
[22:55] <tomreyn> dStruct: okay that'll be 18.04.2 then
[22:55] <dStruct> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?version=18.04.2&architecture=amd64
[22:55] <dStruct> from ubuntu.com/download/server
[22:56] <tomreyn> right
[22:57] <dStruct> the image itself checks good, but like we found, it's probably missing the fw, I think the easiest option would be the daily, but it would be interesting to know if the alt installer has the fw, probably not
[22:57] <Quozl> i would imagine the alt installer would be built from the same kernel packages.
[22:57] <dStruct> Quozl: as would I
[22:57] <dStruct> ok round two coming up..  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/current/bionic-live-server-amd64.iso
[22:58] <tomreyn> bug 1763823 is what i meant to link to actually
[22:58] <Quozl> good luck.  i'm off to exercise.
[22:58] <dStruct> Quozl: thank you for the help
[22:58] <bleb> trying to play sound through my hdmi port
[22:59] <jack> 727 kb/s
[22:59] <jack> rules :D
[22:59] <tomreyn> well both bug reports.
[22:59] <bleb> the volume control dialog under "configuration" says "Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (unplugged)"
[22:59] <bleb> they all say unplugged
[23:00] <bleb> but im viewing this through a tv connected over hdmi so clearly it isn't unplugged
[23:00] <bleb> how might i fix this?
[23:00] <dStruct> tomreyn, OerHeks: thank you guys for the help with this, I really appreciate it, I'll let you know how the daily works out
[23:01] <tomreyn> bleb: which ubuntu release is this, which graphics card? U_VER ; U_GFX
[23:01] <tomreyn> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};) ; lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:01]  * dStruct loves termbin
[23:01] <tomreyn> bleb: ^ this rather than 'UVER+UGFX', those are just my shorthands.
[23:02] <jack> OerHeks: btw, who creates those unofficial isos?
[23:02] <tomreyn> dStruct: you're welcome.
[23:03] <jack> 710kb/s...damn, i love torrents
[23:07] <bleb> tomreyn: it's 18.04, intel graphics
[23:07] <OerHeks> jack, we have no unofficial images.
[23:08] <tomreyn> !hwe | bleb
[23:08] <OerHeks> Kubuntu is an official flavor, Mark Shuttleworth was a KDE patron before he started Ubuntu
[23:09] <tomreyn> bleb: HWE may help you getting this to work, newer graphics drivers are needed.
[23:10] <jack> OerHeks: but i386 must be unofficial :)
[23:11] <OerHeks> No, there are differences between flavors
[23:11] <jack> since there is no official 32bit image for 18.10
[23:11] <OerHeks> !flavors
[23:13] <tomreyn> jack: it is the standard ubuntu desktop installer which no longer provides i386 images, other (fully supported) flavors still do.
[23:14] <jack> wow, ok
[23:14] <tomreyn> they'll surely drop it sooner or later, too, though.
[23:15] <jack> so what :) i'm happy for now
[23:15] <jack> no need for bios twitching...perfect
[23:16] <bleb> tomreyn: it worked a few days ago then today the sound is not working
[23:17] <bleb> tomreyn: http://ix.io/1Dgb
[23:19] <bleb> http://ix.io/1FX5
[23:19] <tomreyn> dStruct: i'm out for the night, good luck. here's yet another suggestion in case what you have so far won't work: temporarily attach an additional NIC to the server, which does not require extra firmware. boot the standard server installer, switch to tty, then make sure you're online via the other NIC and do: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-firmware; sudo snap refresh subiquity  # then carry out the installation
[23:19] <bleb> tomreyn: does this output suggest i'm not already using HWE?
[23:21] <bleb> actually sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 says its already installed so
[23:21] <tomreyn> bleb: yes, it suggests you are using the hwe kernel. you should also be using the hwe X version
[23:22] <dStruct> tomreyn: you're not going to believe this
[23:22] <dStruct> tomreyn: the daily didn't include the firmware..
[23:22] <tomreyn> dStruct: well, that's possible.
[23:22] <dStruct> tomreyn: I will try your suggestion though, that should work
[23:23] <tomreyn> bleb: oh you got both the kernel and X then
[23:23] <tomreyn> dStruct: it should work for installing, i don'tknow whether it will work after your reboot
[23:24] <tomreyn> bleb / dStruct: sorry, got to get some sleep, ttyl
[23:30] <dStruct> I wonder if I can just disable the ethernet adapter in the BIOS all together, once it's installed I can get the firmware on to it
[23:44]  * skatetensor salutes
[23:47] <Snoop_> Need help installing drivers for Touchscreen, Sound, Bluetooth and I think the Display
[23:53] <dStruct> Snoop_: it sounds like you have some uncommon hardware, are you sure drivers are available?
[23:54] <Snoop_> im not sure, all i know is that some stuff isnt working and i dont know how to install drivers with ubuntu
[23:56] <dStruct> Snoop_: dmesg may show you any errors relating to hardware missing drivers or issues, chances are you have a driver already for your hardware, you may just have to configure something
[23:56] <dStruct> Snoop_: what type of laptop?
[23:57] <Snoop_> its a Nuvision DUO 10
[23:57] <Snoop_> Model: TM101W625L
[23:58] <dStruct> Snoop_: https://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/how-to-install-ubuntu-onto-a-windows-tablet-1319489