[03:42] <BIAF> majd : this might sound like windows but right mouse on the folder you want to serve on ur linux box, and click share, then u have choice of sama or NFS
[03:42] <eobanb> badrinarayan, sure, that's an option for him, although mac os x can do fine with a samba share
[03:42] <yallaman> port or linux games
[03:42] <mgi> so, does anyone have any experience with dvb-t?
[03:42] <eobanb> BIAF, that choice only appears if he's already installed samba or NFS
[03:42] <eobanb> BIAF, i don't mean to be rude, but i don't think you are helping here
[03:43] <eobanb> yallaman, you should definitely try tremulous
[03:43] <eobanb> yallaman, it's based on quake III
[03:43] <CokeNCode> i hear freenode got hacked, is that true  ?
[03:43] <BIAF> if hes installed ubuntu-desktop or full desktop, then it should be there reay to deploy
[03:43] <eobanb> CokeNCode, not the place for that question
[03:43] <Daveyboy> void^, yah i have an alternate iso, so i HAVE TO use text mode?
[03:43] <david_> I leave my computer for 1 hour and it doesn't hibernate and the monitor turns off, I have to unplug it then plug in back in for it to work again, can someone help me?
[03:43] <void^> Daveyboy: yes
[03:43] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, anyone know if its possible to save states in VisualBoyAdvance on Ubuntu? using either VBA Express or Gnomeboy
[03:43] <eobanb> BIAF, negative, i'm positive samba is not installed by default
[03:43] <majd_> BIAF, i did what you told me to do and it worked: i can view the files on my mac on my ubuntu. But what i need to do is do that opposite
[03:43] <badrinarayan> eobanb, yeah osx handles samba - I only said that because it is nice to see ubuntu "discovered" by  his mac when he brings it to hime n/w ;)
[03:43] <majd_> i need to see on my mac, the files on my ubuntu
[03:43] <Daveyboy> void^, so why doesi t give the choice of oem?
[03:44] <majd_> dreampark
[03:44] <majd_> heh
[03:44] <majd_> wrong channel
[03:44] <BIAF> :)
[03:44] <eobanb> majd_, if you go to System > Administration > Shared Folders it will prompt you to install samba
[03:45] <BIAF> but when he just right mouse#s on a folder it will provoke the dialog to install samba
[03:45] <void^> Daveyboy: eh, oem = original equipment manufacturer. i don't know what it does in this case, doesn't say anything about the gui anyways
[03:45] <majd_> samba seems to be installed through synaptic
[03:45] <BIAF> after clicking share
[03:45] <badrinarayan> majd_ : finally go to finder, type apple-k (connect to server) and then simply connect to the ubuntu share you created
[03:47] <Daveyboy> what is the difference between kde and kubuntu-desktop?
[03:47] <McScruff> is there a way to stop ubiquity from installing a bootloader
[03:47] <McScruff> Daveyboy, the apps that come with it, kde ships just with kde, but kubuntu will give you apps that the kubuntu team packaged with it
[03:47] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: its kde with ubuntu's spin on it
[03:47] <eobanb> Daveyboy, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that includes kde and its libraries
[03:48] <james_xxx> in trying to configure a PC to access the printer connected to another PC, when it askes for thehost of the remote IPP server, what am i supposed to enter?
[03:48] <Daveyboy> but kde comes with the ubuntu install though, right?
[03:48] <eobanb> Daveyboy, no.
[03:48] <__mikem> kubuntu doesn't do kde justice, you should see how great kde could look if they tried, has anyone here ever used linspire before?
[03:48] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: no
[03:48] <q_a_z_steve> What's an easy but secure Pop3 and SMTP mail server I can run on ubuntu?
[03:48] <eobanb> Daveyboy, an ubuntu install comes with gnome, not kde.
[03:48] <Daveyboy> kewl
[03:48] <pike_> Daveyboy: you would need server install then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <DShepherd> eobanb depends on what cd you use though
[03:48] <eobanb> pike_, or he could just get the kubuntu iso..
[03:48] <pike_> eobanb: bah
[03:49] <adcuritn> does anybody here know anyting about installing ubuntu on sparc machine
[03:49] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: u could get the kubuntu iso you like
[03:49] <yallaman> eobanb: just do: ./tremulous.run ?
[03:49] <eobanb> yallaman, indeed
[03:49] <yallaman> kk
[03:49] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: that comes with kde by defualt..
[03:49] <eobanb> yallaman, you can even double-click it from nautilus
[03:49] <yallaman> ah
[03:49] <Daveyboy> DShepherd, yah i think thats what i have
[03:49] <DShepherd> yallaman: you trying out that gaim??
[03:49] <DShepherd> game(
[03:49] <DShepherd> gaim = game*
[03:49] <pike_> Daveyboy: the problem is with your system specs both gnome and kde are going to be a little frustrating
[03:49] <yallaman> 1 min to download is done
[03:50] <adcuritn> does anybody here know anyting about installing ubuntu on sparc machine??
[03:50] <pike_> Daveyboy: but still usable probably
[03:50] <q_a_z_steve> !sparc
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about sparc
[03:50] <DShepherd> yallaman: tell me what you think of it.. is it just for multiplayer environment though?
[03:50] <yallaman> seems kinda good looking to be so small size
[03:50] <majd_> badrinarayan, when i go to Finder>Network>Mshome>Majd-Ubuntu>Connect....it prompts me for Domain, Username, and password. for Domain, i put MSHOME because in ubuntu when i go to Shared Folders Settings and click properties on the folder i'm sharing, and click on General Windows Sharing settings, that's what it says the domain is
[03:50] <wastrel> someone was in here a few days ago saying they were running on a sparc
[03:50] <__mikem> I tried to run gnome and kde side by side on breezy. THough it works, on ubuntu it gets messy
[03:50] <eobanb> adcuritn, as far as i know the sparc port is in the works, but not ready yet
[03:50] <Daveyboy> pike_, yah i had kde before on it semed alright ,im mainly just going to conect thru ssh anyway via putty
[03:50] <majd_> for username, i use majd-home because that's what i put for the name under share properties
[03:50] <DShepherd> yallaman: it is good looking..
[03:50] <yallaman> i dunno if its just for mp yet:P
[03:51] <james_xxx> __mikem: i could not disagree with you more. kubuntu is awesome
[03:51] <majd_> and for password, i tried my root password
[03:51] <adcuritn> eobanb there is a server edition of ubuntu out for sparc
[03:51] <DShepherd> yallaman: ok
[03:51] <q_a_z_steve> What's an easy to configure but secure Pop3 and SMTP mail server I can run on ubuntu?
[03:51] <__mikem> james_xxx I didn't say it wasn't, I was just saying running gnome alongside kde gets messy
[03:51] <james_xxx> i see
[03:51] <majd_> after i click Connect, i get the following error: The alias "Majd-Ubuntu" could not be opened, because the original item cannot be found
[03:51] <Daveyboy> how much memory does kde and gnome generally use?
[03:52] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  postfix i think is the standard for smtp.  dovecot for pop3 (i only use imap tho)
[03:52] <eobanb> Daveyboy, around 128 MB.
[03:52] <eobanb> Daveyboy, but you'll want extra to run applications
[03:52] <pike_> Daveyboy: you might give xubuntu a spin its my main desktop i very much prefer it to gnome or kde
[03:52] <q_a_z_steve> adcuritn, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606?highlight=%28sparc%29
[03:52] <majd_> pike_, same here
[03:52] <yallaman> lol..nautilus..opens it in gedit..
[03:52] <majd_> i love xfce...much less memory usage than gnome]
[03:53] <Daveyboy> yeah xubuntu is okay, i mainly want to be a command line guru
[03:53] <__mikem> pike_ I love xfce, but the latest version is a bit unstable
[03:53] <eobanb> yallaman, uh i guess you do need to run it from the command line then
[03:53] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, what's the big difference?
[03:53] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  between pop3 and imap?
[03:54] <q_a_z_steve> server size and things?
[03:54] <pike_> __mikem: only thing i miss is the old thunar.  i havent really had any problems yet
[03:55] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, as far as the server and security/access restriction and so on.
[03:55] <Daveyboy> pike_, how much memory doe xubuntu use?
[03:55] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, do you use dovecot for imap?
[03:55] <majd_> do i wanna use a WINS server?
[03:56] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, if one's available...
[03:56] <patch> how can I configure de volume control on my dell keyboard !
[03:56] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  yes but only for my local network - i'm not running any internet services.  it does have ssl support though.
[03:56] <q_a_z_steve> cool.
[03:57] <majd_> q_a_z_steve, what's WINS server?
[03:57] <pike_> Daveyboy: im dont have any numbers but you would definately notice a difference with 256mb of ram
[03:57] <majd_> i don't know if it is or not
[03:58] <r3dhat> does anyone know how i can install in expert mode?
[03:58] <Daveyboy> so if i use the server install, does it pre load openssh, apache2, mysql-server
[03:58] <q_a_z_steve> !WINS
[03:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about WINS
[03:58] <wastrel> wins is a microsoft network protocol
[03:58] <__mikem> r3dhat if you don't know how to use expert mode, chances are, you are not an expert and have no need to use expert mode
[03:58] <wastrel> totally unused for internet connections, or tcp/ip networks in general afaik
[03:58] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, it's only necessary if you want outlook or things like that to work at optimum.
[03:58] <pike_> Daveyboy: actually all installs are base desktop installs you would have to apt-get install openssh-server etc
[03:58] <r3dhat> i need to make a boot disk in expert install i just cant seem to find it...?
[03:59] <pike_> Daveyboy: unless something has changed with dapper
[03:59] <Daveyboy> pike_, so the server install is different from the desktop install , how?
[03:59] <__mikem> server install doesn't install gui
[04:00] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, would it be accurate to say linux:DNS :: windows:WINS ?
[04:00] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/W/WINS.html
[04:00] <pike_> Daveyboy: and regular install will install alot of stuff you dont need and dont want running
[04:00] <r3dhat> how do i get to expert install?
[04:00] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  i actually know very little about microsoft networking, just enough to know that wins is irrelevant to internet :]
[04:01] <patch>  how can I configure my multimedia keyboard, the button rool or vulume up or down doesn't works for me !
[04:01] <Daveyboy> pike_, so server install is the same as desktop minus the wm?
[04:01] <__mikem> the thing about "expert" install is, if you use it, it is implied taht you are an "expert" and know what you are doing.
[04:01] <r3dhat> ... i know... i just cant find it
[04:02] <__mikem> sorry, I just love the irony in that. lmao
[04:02] <r3dhat> i know
[04:02] <r3dhat> however
[04:02] <pike_> Daveyboy: and openoffice and alot of other stuff. think of it more as base install without any of the frills
[04:02] <r3dhat> i need to install this please
[04:02] <Daveyboy> ole william wallace is kicking ass on spiketv
[04:02] <Daveyboy> pike_, kewl
[04:03] <Patrick__> hey all, is it possible to download files that you would normally get through apt-get at a certain website?
[04:03] <jasonm_> what app is best for connecting to soulseek under ubuntu
[04:03] <hackel> r3dhat:  did you bother looking online or reading the manual in all your expert wisdom?
[04:04] <pike_> Patrick__: you can download the .deb files
[04:04] <hawkaloogie> jasonm_, nicotine is widely used, but it's not been updated in a while
[04:04] <__mikem> hackel, so you think its ironic that he is "asking" how to use the "expert" install
[04:04] <hackel> Patrick__:  Yeah just look at the site you're getting it from. :-P  (probably http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[04:04] <yallaman> tremulous ..seemed like a nice game..very fast..only MP btw
[04:04] <hackel> __mikem:  Yes I was agreeing with you.   I mean, packages.ubuntu.com will give you info and links to download individual packages, or apt-get.org will search other repositories.
[04:08] <Daveyboy> __mikem, i hear ya... 3ghz is a horse
[04:08] <Trae> can someone check my sources.list please:  pastebin.ca/71725
[04:08] <Patrick__> hackel, thanks
[04:08] <mnvl> but neither totem nor rhythmbox can play them (!?)
[04:08] <Trae> I can't seem to get w32codecs to install
[04:08] <r3dhat> where is expert install?
[04:09] <__mikem> :-)
[04:09] <mnvl> can i get another player or what?
[04:09] <__mikem> r3dhat RTFM
[04:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell Trae about w32codecs
[04:09] <Lord-ChewY> is it possible to use MS DirectX with wine
[04:09] <r3dhat> rgr
[04:09] <__mikem> rgr?
[04:09] <Lord-ChewY> the actual MS files
[04:09] <mnvl> or another decoder?
[04:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell mnvl about mp3
[04:09] <Trae> jrib heh, I should be able to just apt-get install w32codecs right?
[04:10] <jrib> Trae: nope
[04:10] <Trae> jrib not even with multiverse and universe enabled?
[04:10] <hackel> r3dhat:  I'm pretty sure you just type "expert" when you boot the CD.
[04:10] <jrib> Trae: correct, the wiki explains how you have to get them
[04:10] <__mikem> hackel, a guy calls tech support and says, hey it tells me to click ok, what do I do?
[04:11] <Trae> jrib odd... I don't see mention of Seveas packages on the wiki
[04:11] <r3dhat> hackel, i tried that, no dice
[04:11] <jrib> Trae: there is a direct link to a .deb there though
[04:11] <Rolo> help
[04:11] <Rolo> kernel panic: VFS unable mount root fs on 08:02
[04:11] <Dial_tone> are all these /dev/vmnet* entries part of the OS or were they all added by installing vmware? translation - can i delete them when i remove vmware player
[04:11] <__mikem> Rolo try running fsck
[04:12] <hackel> r3dhat:  Might have changed with dapper release, but I assume it's in the docs somewhere.
[04:12] <Trae> jrib ok... I"m sorry, the old way had you wehre you could apt-get install it I thought.
[04:12] <Trae> I could be just mis-thinking too
[04:12] <r3dhat> hackel: yea... i really didnt look through it before... =(
[04:12] <Trae> jrib do my sources.list look good ?
[04:12] <jrib> Trae: ok, the factoid was changed :)  It used to point to the restricted formats wiki, but the desktopguide probably has directions.  You can apt-get install if you use seveas' repos too
[04:12] <Rolo> kernel i686-smp for pentium d 820
[04:13] <pike_> Trae: http://pastebin.ca/71730
[04:13] <__mikem> Darnit, doesn't anyone read the manuel before comming here anymore
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> anyone know?
[04:13] <Rolo> espaol?
[04:13] <jrib> Trae: where are they?
[04:13] <jrib> !es
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> id like to use the standard DX9c dll files
[04:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> seems that would work better than hacked ones
[04:13] <squiggly> someone buy me the X2 4600
[04:13] <squiggly> my machine hungers for some real horsepower
[04:14] <wastrel> what's that
[04:14] <__mikem> squiggly noone here is going to buy you anything
[04:14] <squiggly> beefy processor that i need for video encoding
[04:14] <Trae> pastebin.ca/71725 jrib
[04:14] <Lord-ChewY> squiggly ill buy you one but you got to "work" for it
[04:15] <Lord-ChewY> and by work i mean sexual
[04:15] <yallaman> is there any font packages that i can download for ubuntu? for use in console..
[04:15] <DShepherd> :-O
[04:15] <__mikem> Lord-ChewY don't encourage a chatroom trool, and please keep it appropiate
[04:15] <squiggly> do i get union rights
[04:15] <r3dhat> not finding anything...
[04:15] <__mikem> *troll
[04:15] <Lord-ChewY> you get 0 rights
[04:16] <squiggly> well fu
[04:16] <__mikem> !ops
[04:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:16] <Lord-ChewY> no computer either
[04:16] <jrib> Trae: yep they look fine, just add in seveas repos if you want to be able to apt-get install
[04:16] <jrib> (w32codecs)
[04:16] <jturek> hi guys
[04:16] <jturek> i get soudnd on my GDM screen
[04:16] <HedgeMage> __mikem: what's up?
[04:16] <roostishaw> where can i find a good tutorial covering how to use zenity with bash?
[04:16] <jturek> but when i get into Gnome
[04:16] <jturek> i don't have sound
[04:16] <jturek> the Volume Manager won't open
[04:16] <__mikem> HedgeMage theres a trool
[04:17] <Trae> jrib k, tx bunches
[04:17] <__mikem> And someone talking about trading sex for a new microprocessor
[04:17] <Healot> roostishaw: I say zenity examples at Sun's website
[04:17] <__mikem> and they are fighting
[04:17] <jrib> Trae: and here is the link if you just want the deb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[04:17] <HedgeMage> Mika_i: it helps if you give me nicks so I can lastlog... I have 41 chans open
[04:17] <HedgeMage> __mikem: ^^^
[04:17] <digivore> hi, question, what other version of linux is ubuntu most like, or based on?
[04:17] <hackel> r3dhat:  Make sure you're using the "alternate" install CD.
[04:17] <roostishaw> Healot, ok, ill check it out, thanks mate
[04:17] <__mikem> Lord-ChewY, squiggly
[04:18] <hackel> digivore:  Debian. :-P
[04:18] <lecaros> digivore: based on debian
[04:18] <r3dhat> hackel: "alternate" install CD?
[04:18] <digivore> great thanks
[04:18] <hackel> r3dhat:  Yes, which is the same as the old install CD.  Not the live CD.
[04:18] <r3dhat> BAH!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <r3dhat> that explains alot
[04:19] <__mikem> HedgeMage Lord-CHewY and squiggly
[04:19] <hackel> r3dhat:  That's where the expert install went to.  From that point on, I'll assume you're still an expert and can figure it out. :P
[04:19] <yeft> anyone here use rockbox?
[04:19] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[04:19] <r3dhat> thank you, i <3 you
[04:19] <Lord-ChewY> yo
[04:19] <hackel> (but I admit, it took me a minute to figure that out, too.)
[04:20] <__mikem> wow, this chatroom is kinky tonight
[04:20] <Dial_tone> are all these /dev/vmnet* entries part of the OS or were they all added by installing vmware? translation - can i delete them when i remove vmware player
[04:20] <Lord-ChewY> i hope cedega works better than dx9wine
[04:21] <HellDragon> /clear
[04:21] <yeft> anyone get ipod to work in amaroK?
[04:22] <Shigun> Anybody here have experience with SPDIF issue, that they think they could help me with?
[04:22] <bimberi> wow, freenode staff party?
[04:22] <__mikem> HedgeMage, in retrospect maybe it was a bit hastey to call in the ops, but it really did look like they were about to fight?
[04:24] <bimberi> __mikem: i thought you were a bit hasty but it probably did prevent things escalating :)
[04:24] <repairmn> is there a package to install LimeWire?
[04:24] <HedgeMage> __mikem: np, it happens, and bimberi is probably right
[04:24] <__mikem> :)
[04:24] <Shigun> o.O Anybody at all?  Or just a generalized question in the hopes of some support or guidance in the right direction
[04:24] <bimberi> HedgeMage: wow, that's first ;P
[04:24] <bimberi> *a first
[04:25] <__mikem> ubotu tell SHigun about ask
[04:25] <skavenge> frostwire!
[04:25] <__mikem> skavenge what about frostwire
[04:25] <Shigun> k then.  My SPDIF just stopped working.  I thought it might be due to a kernel upgrade, but upon reverting back to my previous kernel version, it still didnt work.  I cannot think of anything it could possibly be
[04:26] <Shigun> This is on an intel8x0 module (Nvidia NForce4 on a DFI Lanparty Ultra-D)
[04:26] <skavenge> somebody was asking about limewire .. anyway anyone had problems with frostwire locking up when its starting? its happened like three times to me and frozen my x session
[04:26] <__mikem> not sure what SPDIF is, but reinstalling it should fix it right up
[04:26] <crimsun> Shigun: amixer output, please, pastebinned.
[04:26] <Shigun> __mikem: SPDIF is a form of audio output
[04:27] <__mikem> Shigun, do you know what package it comes in?
[04:27] <Healot> __mikem: digital output
[04:27] <socket7> how do i make a program run on boot? Just before X starts?
[04:27] <Shigun> __mikem: Its not a package, its a hardware feature
[04:27] <__mikem> There should be a driver for it though?
[04:27] <__mikem> THe soundcard I mean
[04:27] <__mikem> TRy reinstalling the soundcard drivers
[04:28] <yoshiznit123> hey, is there a way to see how much space an installed package takes?
[04:28] <Shigun> __mikem: That would be the alsa drivers, or I guess in this case specifically, intel8x0 alsa drivers.  However, my second soundcard itself is working fine
[04:28] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16496
[04:28] <__mikem> Thats strange.
[04:29] <__mikem> crimsun, what happened last night, I was kicked from the server at around 12:00 AM and I couldn't log back on
[04:29] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[04:29] <nemik> hello, not sure why, but I just cannot get sound to work on my onboard via 8235 card.
[04:30] <crimsun> Shigun: ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[04:30] <nemik> it was fine on breezy before i wiped everything and put on dapper
[04:30] <crimsun> nemik: pastebin ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[04:31] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, you'll have to change settings in xorg.conf unless you have shm enabled
[04:31] <KBlair> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and Linux in general. I want to have a Windows XP/Ubuntu on my next computer I build. Problem is that I don't know if ASRock 939NF5G-SATA2 can support linux. Does anybody have any success stories with tihs board?
[04:31] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16498
[04:31] <skavenge> yoshiznit123 ; shm?
[04:31] <nemik> crimsun: just says no such file/directory
[04:32] <__mikem> KBlair, I don't believe the motherboard has anything to do with OS support.
[04:32] <Shigun> crimsun: apologies, I missed the wildcard at the end
[04:32] <bimberi> yoshiznit123: apt-cache show <package> | grep Installed
[04:32] <crimsun> nemik: then I need ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' pastebinned
[04:32] <__mikem> KBlair, also, if you do run into any problems, a bios upgrade should fix them
[04:32] <KBlair> Ok, thanks.
[04:33] <realcoolguy> is there a good way to tell which video "driver" i'm running?
[04:33] <yoshiznit123> bimberi, thanks
[04:33] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for 'synaptics'
[04:33] <bimberi> yoshiznit123: yw
[04:33] <Shigun> Crimsun: Actually, there is no change with the wildcard
[04:33] <nemik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/71744
[04:34] <lecaros> crimsun: btw, i haven't those files
[04:34] <crimsun> nemik: try muting 'External Amplifier'
[04:35] <crimsun> lecaros: you won't unless you use asoundconf directly or change the default sound device using System> Preferences> Sound
[04:35] <durt> when i try to play a file in audacious, cpu usage goes up to 100%, and the song plays very slowly and choppily. anyone know whats wrong?
[04:35] <__mikem> TRy a different player
[04:36] <skavenge> yoshiznit123 ; found it, doesn't say much
[04:36] <nemik> crimsun: just muted it; and nothing
[04:36] <__mikem> its a case of, a guy walks into a doctors office and says, "hey dock, it hurts when I do this." Doc says, "then don't do it"
[04:36] <durt> heh, yeah other stuff works, but i was just wondering if anyone else had troubles with audacious
[04:37] <crimsun> Shigun: what's the output from ``iecset''?
[04:37] <__mikem> durt, you could try reinstalling audacios, if that doesn't work, just ditch it
[04:37] <crimsun> nemik: try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[04:38] <crimsun> nemik: if 1 doesn't work, try 2, then 3
[04:38] <n8bounds> Good people of #ubuntu, Has anyone found a good ubuntu/debian analouge to the win32 only DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter?
[04:39] <skavenge> sound wizard
[04:39] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, you can put a bunch of configurations there, the easiest is probably SHMConfig "true", and you can configure without restarting your x server
[04:39] <Shigun> crimsun: Several errors.  Give me a sec, I will pastebin them
[04:39] <Healot> n8bounds: DVD ripping is illegal, we shouldn't suggest you about that :-0
[04:39] <heman> what's the best way to install tor on utuntu?
[04:39] <Shigun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16499
[04:40] <crimsun> heman: from tor.eff.org
[04:40] <Healot> using the repos, heman
[04:40] <Shigun> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16499
[04:40] <n8bounds> hmm
[04:40] <crimsun> heman: tor is one of the few exceptions where the versions in the repo are known to be not recommended.
[04:40] <woodwizzle> What happened to the command line panel applet?
[04:40] <Healot> the latest release of Tor is recommended
[04:40] <wastrel> woodwizzle:  they retired it and replaced it with deskbar applet
[04:41] <woodwizzle> wastrel oh the deskbar applet can run programs too? sweet
[04:41] <Dragonfyre13> anybody have experience with apache2 vhosts?
[04:41] <Dragonfyre13> anybody have experience with apache2 at all?
[04:41] <__mikem> I am getting too tired to think. I am going to bed
[04:41] <Healot> n8bounds: btw, there are some out there, libdvdcss2 is the core for DVD ripping...
[04:41] <socket7> How do I add a script to init.d so it runs just before X starts?
[04:42] <Shigun> crimsun: I copied my asound.conf to the file being pointed to by my .asoundrc, and ran iecset again.  This time, it just returned: snd_ctl_open: Invalid argument
[04:42] <heman> crimsun: i'm guessing i should download the debian version
[04:42] <crimsun> Shigun: and the contents of /proc/asound/cards ?
[04:42] <crimsun> heman: if there's no Ubuntu-specific one, sure
[04:42] <Dragonfyre13> Hi Rob
[04:43] <nemik> crimsun: none of those worked...i may try to put my BIOS to default in case something relating to sound changed there...
[04:43] <nemik> crimsun: btw thank you very much anyway for helping
[04:43] <Shigun> crumsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16500
[04:44] <crimsun> nemik: uname -r
[04:44] <Dragonfyre13> Can anyone hear me when I speak? No experience with IRC before really.
[04:44] <n8bounds> yes, Dragonfyre13
[04:44] <nemik> crimsun: 2.6.15-25-386
[04:44] <Dragonfyre13> n8bounds: thank you
[04:44] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: I can't hear you talking, but I can see what you type
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: Gee, thanks. I guess I would have to use Ekigia for that.
[04:45] <Rug> yupp
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> ^_^
[04:45] <crimsun> Shigun: are you intending to use the crippled live or the nvidia?
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> Hey Twilli
[04:45] <iamelite> How do i open Split RAR archives. IE: r00, r01, r02 = ABC.exe
[04:45] <Rug> iamelite: you want to extract the whole thing?
[04:45] <twilli> Hey, whats happening
[04:45] <iamelite> rug yes
[04:46] <Rug> imbrandon: rar x file.rar
[04:46] <Dragonfyre13> "unrar Filename.r00"
[04:46] <Shigun> crimsun: The Nvidia has SPDIF, which is what I always output my sound to, except for a few VoIP programs, wehre I used the live.  However, the Nvidia SPDIF no longer works.  The live itself still does though.
[04:46] <imbrandon> Rug, ???
[04:46] <heman> Which version of Debian is ubuntu most like.  Sarge?  Etch?
[04:46] <Rug> or *.r00
[04:46] <iamelite> How do i know if i have unrar
[04:46] <mgi> hey.. anyone have much experience with dvb-t and dapper?
[04:46] <imbrandon> Rug, you mean iamelite
[04:46] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:46] <Rug> sorry
[04:46] <spikeb> heman: probably etch at the moment
[04:46] <imbrandon> np ;)
[04:46] <Shigun> crimsun:  The live outputs through analog, while the nvidia has analog and spdif.  afaik, neither work on the nvidia
[04:46] <crimsun> Shigun: can you backup (and remove) /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc* ?
[04:47] <Rug> iamelite: sorry.....    type this in a term window:   rar -h
[04:47] <Shigun> crimsun: Give me just a sec, and I will remove and test that
[04:47] <Dragonfyre13> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:47] <ether> alrighty anyone else had problems with the desktop cd seeming freezeing after unpacking the kernel?
[04:47] <babywalks> does anybody know how to configure a usb keyboard? i simply cannot get it work with my  usb mouse.
[04:47] <n8bounds> seeming freezeing?
[04:47] <iamelite> rar -h     Command not found
[04:47] <ether> seemingly
[04:47] <Rug> iamelite: you need to install rar/unrar
[04:48] <Dragonfyre13> see my post
[04:48] <n8bounds> you sure the optical drive in question is in good health?
[04:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can somone tell me how to install the lame headers and codec?  i want to do that before compiling kaffeine
[04:48] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: see my post
[04:48] <Shigun> crimsun: No change
[04:48] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:48] <ether> i am rather sure it is, it's brand new
[04:48] <Shigun> crimsun: However, the output of iecset shows something now
[04:48] <SAM_theman> hello people its me!!
[04:49] <n8bounds> hmm
[04:49] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: activate multiverse and universe repos
[04:49] <skavenge> just open synaptic and search for rar
[04:49] <mgi> so no one has any idea about dvb-t cards?
[04:49] <crimsun> Shigun: good. pastebin, please?
[04:49] <n8bounds> do you have DMA on?
[04:49] <ether> it was doing the same thing with the cd drive before
[04:49] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16501
[04:49] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, how?
[04:49] <ether> i'm not familar with DMA
[04:49] <n8bounds> direct memory access
[04:50] <n8bounds> easiest way with Breezy or Dapper is AUTOMATIX
[04:50] <ether> cmos option?
[04:50] <Healot> !dma
[04:50] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:50] <spikeb> BAH
[04:50] <Rug> ether: hpparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[04:50] <Rug> ack
[04:50] <wastrel> don't break your drive
[04:50] <Rug> hdparm
[04:50] <Dragonfyre13> "iamelite: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the things it tells you to.
[04:50] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the things it tells you to.
[04:50] <wastrel> i killed a disk with hdparm once ;]
[04:50] <Rug> wastrel: really?
[04:50] <n8bounds> yeah, really?
[04:51] <d00by> does anybody know how to read the tags from a mp3 using either gambas or a shell utility?
[04:51] <spikeb> !automatix
[04:51] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[04:51] <wastrel> yeah really.  not the physical disk of course but the filesystem
[04:51] <Rug> wastrel: of course....
[04:51] <SpecialCore> hello, when I type "make", the system replies "bash: make: command not found", what shall I do when I can compile files?
[04:52] <Rug> wastrel: I was thinking:  nothing a low-level format can't cure
[04:52] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: Yup. There's a walkthrough here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:52] <Shigun> crimsun: I have confirmed that analog on the nvidia *is* working
[04:52] <Dragonfyre13> SpecialCore: apt-get install build-essential
[04:52] <Rug> SpecialCore: what program are you trying to install AND have you checked to see if it's in the repos first?
[04:52] <elkbuntu> SpecialCore, you probably need to install the build-essential package. so sudo apt-get build-essential
[04:52] <Amaranth> !compiling > SpecialCore
[04:53] <Shigun> crimsun: SPDIF itself though, still does not
[04:53] <roostishaw> in the zenity man page, where it talks about text input... and says its saved to 'standard output', how would I assign the input of the user to a variable?
[04:53] <Dragonfyre13> anyone feel like helping me with my apache2 problems?
[04:53] <iamelite> All this for one file
[04:53] <cArNaGe`> !weather binghamton
[04:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about weather binghamton
[04:53] <SpecialCore> ok, I'll try it. I just installing libgpg-error0. thanks
[04:53] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: nah, I've used it for a bunch.
[04:53] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, depends. explain your apache2 problem first.
[04:54] <Dragonfyre13> elkubuntu: I have a working apache setup, but I need it to use virtualhosts, since now I will be hosting two sites. for some reason, whenever I set them up, it just goes to the /var/www directory.
[04:55] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, which of theese is the walk througg for what im doing
[04:55] <woodwizzle> I'm learning python, I'm curious as to what tools other ubunteros use to program python.
[04:55] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, im not sure how to do that either, but since it's an apache2 thing, try joining the apache channel here on freenode and ask there, they'll know for sure
[04:55] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16502
[04:56] <judah> Dragonfyre13: so you have a unique DocumentRoot set for your virtual hosts?
[04:56] <ether> hmm, well the desktop cd goes blah "upacking kernel" then it goes to the bootsplash all mounting filesystem stuffs then it seems to crash and goes back to the vanilla console. no hd or cd activity. Does that sound like a hdpram issue?
[04:56] <SAM_theman> Can somone take a look at that please?
[04:56] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:56] <SAM_theman> !vmware
[04:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:56] <Dragonfyre13> judah: yep.
[04:56] <woodwizzle> crap my xorg died
[04:57] <judah> do you like less -f /my/fancy/apache/log.log when you restart the service.
[04:57] <crimsun> Shigun: how are you testing the optical out?
[04:57] <judah> to see if like it gives you some klue?
[04:57] <Rug> After doing a fresh install of dapper I can't get twinview to work, but if I upgrade from breezy works fine.  any ideas?
[04:57] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: besides, I activate the other repos on nearly all the systems I install.
[04:58] <nothingman> hi, all
[04:58] <adicts> hey
[04:58] <nothingman> haven't gotten a graphical login since I upgraded to Dapper
[04:58] <Healot> woodwizzle: I am IDLE(ing) and eaten by Boa :)
[04:58] <Shigun> crimsun: I have a digital audio decoder that I hooks up to a surround sound system.  It connects in through the SPDIF interface
[04:58] <nosklo> nothingman, video card?
[04:58] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: likely, dapper doesn't install the drivers correctly. Breezy does, and Dapper doesn't mess with them during the upgrade.
[04:59] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, i think your best bet is to ask in #apache
[04:59] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: odd thing though, OpenGL (Direct rendering) was install correctly.
[04:59] <crimsun> Shigun: right, are you using mplayer (w/ its parameters, see its man page) to test the output?
[04:59] <adicts> i just started using linux and i needed to install an nvidia driver , but when i try to install it in the terminal it says needs to be run as root can someone help me?
[04:59] <woodwizzle> Healot, what do you do most of your python in? I noticed that gedit comes with a python console too.
[04:59] <adicts> ive tried $sudo dpkg
[04:59] <Dragonfyre13> Thanks elkubuntu. I'll try there once I finish with iamelite's problem.
[04:59] <Healot> woodwizzle: IDLE(ing) is good
[05:00] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: that's really wierd.
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, are you using ubuntu?
[05:00] <Tmob> anyone use conky + xfce?
[05:00] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: yeah I know!
[05:00] <adicts> yeah
[05:00] <Tmob> i can't get it to draw properly on double buffering
[05:00] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, yeah im reading it. saying i can do it in X
[05:00] <Tmob> and it flickers with single
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, then just install the linux-restricted package using sypnaptic
[05:00] <nothingman> Xinerama: intel integrated and two Diamond Stealth 3D 2000's
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, and nvidia-glx
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, that should be enough
[05:00] <Rug> nothingman: ouch, time for an upgrade
[05:00] <adicts> ok thanks alot
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, you dont need additional drivers
[05:00] <adicts> ok
[05:00] <Shigun> crimsun: I have tested several things.  The gnome sound properties (play the sound you hear at login), amarok (set to 'default' for the audio device, as was per my asound.conf), and xmms (set to hw:0,2, to specify the spdif output of the nvidia).  None of them work.
[05:00] <nothingman> OK, so now that I commented out the S3's it works with just the intel
[05:00] <adicts> thank you
[05:01] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yup. That's the newbie friendly way. heheheh, CLI goodness though.
[05:01] <Migit03> I just compiled some of my own C code (in 64 bit Ubuntu) using gcc but I can only get it to run by doing /Desktop/main I can't go to the desktop and just type main.o. Any ideas why?
[05:01] <crimsun> Shigun: generally speaking you would want to use plug:iec958 instead of a hardcoded hw:0,2
[05:01] <nothingman> Rug: it will make a nice programming rig; 1.2Ghz Celeron vs the 400Mhz Athlon that it replaced
[05:01] <nothingman> plus it houses my mythbacked
[05:01] <Dragonfyre13> iameite: if you have any more problems, just ask the room. I'm going to #apache
[05:01] <Shigun> crimsun: I have always used hw:0,2, but let me test the plug real quick
[05:01] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Well when it comes to computers, i dont mind the hard way. But ill always find the easiest one. They say its the thinking of a true mathematician
[05:01] <nothingman> *mythbackend*
[05:01] <Rug> nothingman: It's great for a lot of things.  GUI isn't on the list though!  =)
[05:02] <hyphenated> Migit03: because 'named' commands are looked up in your PATH environment variable
[05:02] <Shigun> crimsun: Doesnt work either
[05:02] <nothingman> Rug: as long as it plays video and gives me a wide-ass desktop, I'm OK with it
[05:02] <Rug> Enjoy!
[05:02] <DrKevorkian> i can't get flash player in firefox to work on ubuntu, i had no problems in windows xp (i'm dual booting) but it never seems to work correctly on linux
[05:02] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, anyways. backpots opened, where do i go about it now
[05:02] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yup. Same here, but CLI is normally more powerful, and thus easier when you get used to it. nano is your friend if you get stuck there.
[05:02] <Shigun> crimsun: Is there a way to reinstall or rebuild the audio modules?
[05:02] <bruenig> drkevorkian, what have you tried?
[05:02] <crimsun> Shigun: wouldn't help
[05:03] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: just do "sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[05:03] <Shigun> crimsun: Recommendation on what to do next?
[05:03] <crimsun> Shigun: do I still have your current amixer output on pastebin?
[05:03] <JMO> Hi there
[05:03] <crimsun> Shigun: sorry, url please
[05:03] <Rug> JMO: howdy
[05:04] <JMO> Im sorry for this interrumption, can someone give me a hand with an apt-get problem?
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig, i've tried installing the linux version from the website and it installed
[05:04] <Rug> JMO: just ask!
[05:04] <nothingman> nosklo: did you read my messages?
[05:04] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, or... Synaptic... unrar... mark?
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: but it rarely ever works and never plays audio
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: once that is done, just do "unrar e file.r00" where file.r00 is the first of the series of rar files you want to unpack.
[05:04] <bruenig> drkevorkian, the easiest way to do is through apt-get, have you tried that?
[05:04] <nosklo> nothingman, yes, but unfortunately i have no experience with this video card
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yep, that works too.
[05:04] <d00by> does anybody know how to read the tags from a mp3 using either gambas or a shell utility?
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: wait, no
[05:04] <nothingman> nosklo: it worked with Breezy
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: i've tried that, same results
[05:04] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16496
[05:05] <JMO> Ok. I will do something better. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199551&page=2
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: unrar-nonfree is what you want
[05:05] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, OMG!
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: sorry ^_^
[05:05] <Healot> no... I can use LAME+libid3tag for that
[05:05] <JMO> My question: Its safe to make a "Repair packages" with Synaptic?
[05:05] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: for example on youtube it'll play about 2 seconds of video and stop, but never any audio
[05:05] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, oh well... ill just overwrite it
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: that works. you didn't screw anything up.
[05:05] <bruenig> drkevorkian, assuming you have the extra repositories enabled try this 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' 'sudo update-flashplugin' that wouldn't work for a while because they took flashplugin-nonfree out of the repos but it is back
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: totally safe. totally.
[05:05] <Rug> JMO: sorry but I don't understand what you mean by that
[05:06] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, ill do the command line then
[05:06] <SpecialCore> hello, how can I install a "***.deb" file in the console window?
[05:06] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[05:06] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:ok.
[05:06] <crimsun> Shigun: interesting. Your 'Analog/Digital Output Jack' may be inverted.
[05:06] <skavenge> its cool that freenode opers are so involved, you never see anyone caring on efnet heh
[05:06] <JMO> Rug: Look at the last post of the page I gave. I got that problem. Its better explained there.
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, giving me something... bad
[05:07] <crimsun> Shigun: (normally it's unmuted/on for analog and muted/off for digital)
[05:07] <SpecialCore> !install > SpecialCore
[05:07] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: ^_^
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, package missing blah blah, Obsoleted...
[05:07] <Rug> JMO: no.  I am CLI only and I don't feel like WORKING just to help you.  throw me a bone or wait for somebody else.
[05:07] <Shigun> crimsun: Possible.  I did notice when I was trying to get analog for my headphones from it this weekend, nothing went out through it.  Let me reverse it
[05:07] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: hmmmmm. hang on.
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[05:07] <crimsun> Shigun: there's also the possibility of your routing being connected to the 'External Amplifier' toggle
[05:08] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: still no audio, what repo's were you talking about?
[05:08] <bruenig> did it install?
[05:08] <Shigun> crimsun: Actually, I do not know how to switch the analog/digital output jack, as I dont see it in alsamixer
[05:09] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: yeah it did
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, and I've seen that if you have 2 sound cards (motherboard & pci) that the sound does not work right
[05:09] <Shigun> crimsun: Just noticed, the analog/digital output jack is for the live, not the nvidia
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> disabled the m/b and worked perfectly
[05:09] <Shigun> nomasteryoda: I had it working fine just 3 days ago
[05:09] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: but i can't get audio from any flash stuff
[05:09] <bruenig> drkevorkian, there are known audio problems with the flashplugin, if you have anything using the speakers before you start your browser, it sometimes has problems working
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:10] <JMO> Rug: Ok, sorry =p I installed libatk1.0.0 and since then, the half of my packages appear like if they were broken. The installation of the library wasnt problematic at all, and I want to know if, given the list of packages, its safe to use the option on Synaptic for "Repair packages", because I dont know what does it do.
[05:10] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: i've tried restarting and such but no changes
[05:10] <crimsun> Shigun: err, wasn't your default set to card 0?
[05:10] <bruenig> drkevorkian, try this ctrl+alt+backspace, that will restart x and then go straight into the browser and try to watch something
[05:10] <iamelite> I just got UT2004 Linux yesterday. AND Dmn... FAST
[05:10] <Shigun> crimsun: default card is 0, yes.  Its the nvidia.  However, the analog/digital out is on the live in alsamixer
[05:10] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: meaning? Martin and I worked pretty hard to make sure that situation /does/ work.
[05:10] <crimsun> Shigun: ok, so I need amixer -c0
[05:11] <Rug> JMO: yes, it should hurt (any more then things already being screwed up)
[05:11] <mgi> hey.. has anyone here had much experience with DVB-T and dapper?
[05:11] <JMO> Rug: Its a pretty ugly situation. I cant use apt-get without having to remove all those packages.
[05:11] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: OK, you are going to activate the PLF repo. Here's how. Go to synaptic, then click settings-> repositories -> add. Then, click custom, and paste this in. "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free" then repeat for "deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free". both should be without quotes. If you are using breezy, substitute breezy for dapper.
[05:11] <JMO> Rug: And I dont know what happened.
[05:11] <Rug> JMO: have you tried removing the file that caused all the problem?
[05:12] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16503
[05:12] <JMO> Rug: It says me that I need to remove everything else too.
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, well, i have a soundblaster live! and it just would not work without disabling the onboard card (yea, i installed the patch for sblaster)
[05:12] <JMO> Rug: Can I force the single removal of the package?
[05:12] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: make sure to click reload in synaptic afterwards, so that it reloads the contents of the new repo. then, do a search for unrar, and choose the one that says unrar-nonfree.
[05:13] <Rug> not that I know of
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> i could not control the sound except by wave controller
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> on the sblaster contyrols
[05:13] <nomasteryoda>  but i fixed
[05:13] <KBlair> Hrm, does anybody know if Linux nForce Driver - AMD64/EM64T 1.0-0310 for nForce 410 works on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> the old fashioned way
[05:13] <java> guys, where I find the gnome-distributor-logo [the foot]  for download?
[05:13] <Dragonfyre13> KBlair: I've heard yes, but don't take my word for it.
[05:13] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: 'Wave' is the proper control for certain revisions of the stac*s
[05:14] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Allright... They sllot the same tho. but i did it
[05:14] <JMO> Rug: Well..., thanks for the answes. I will keep looking. Maybe come back later.
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:14] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: you should be able to use both onboard and the live
[05:14] <bruenig> java, art.gnome.com is probably a good place to look
[05:14] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: sry i accidentally restarted
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i know
[05:14] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: anyway no luck
[05:14] <KBlair> Ok, thanks for the heads up.
[05:14] <java> bruenig, thanks! =D
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i could in breezy
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> do in suse
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> not here though
[05:14] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: can you install unrar-nonfree?
[05:14] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: so what's broken in dapper?
[05:14] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Binary... source. ill have to figure wht that means later
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i may try again next week
[05:15] <bruenig> drkevorkian, it did that to me for a while and I used the breezy flashplugin for a while and then switched back
[05:15] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: source means that you can download the source, and compile manually on some things.
[05:15] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: I'm not sure I understand your issue in Dapper.
[05:15] <Shigun> iamelite: binary is precompiled programs.  source is the actual source code for programs
[05:15] <DrKevorkian> is there a separate plugin for breezy?
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> no sound output on either card except static with the analog/digital is checked
[05:15] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: 99% of the time you use binary.
[05:15] <bruenig> drkevorkian, pick one of these mirrors and you can open the file with gdebi or download it and do it via terminal if you want http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflash-player%2Fflashplayer-mozilla_7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=3b1169a02265eac2eb9cad1fcbc8ac7f&arch=i386&type=main
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> with some sound, but nothing that would work
[05:15] <feryana> hi there
[05:15] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Ill paste bin this
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> i'll debug and let you know later
[05:16] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: no output at all regardless of mixer control toggling on both cards?
[05:16] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: huh?
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> cause Ubuntu roxors
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> only the static with mixed sound from my mp3, movies etc
[05:16] <feryana> this is a strange question, but I dont know where can I ask for it. More or less, how much can be going to a dentist for filling one thooth??????
[05:16] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: on both cards (independently)?
[05:16] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16504
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:17] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:feel free to put it on my wiki if you found it helpful. www.dragonfyre13.com
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> tried everything
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> but i'm ok now
[05:17] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: I need a bug report against linux-source-2.6.15
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i'll worry wiht that next week
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:17] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, just give that a read
[05:17] <wastrel> http://www.1800dentist.com/
[05:17] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:ah. hang on
[05:17] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: please be as thorough as possible so I won't have to back-n'-forth
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:17] <feryana> wastrel i was there. but I didn't see any prices
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i will
[05:18] <Shigun> crimsun: I set a song to play, and went through on alsamixer -c 0, changing things from one side to another, and no change on it (including the external amp)
[05:18] <_TomB> When I rebuild casper, where do I put the casper.conf file?
[05:18] <skavenge> just installed ubuntu the other day on a dell laptop with intel 915GM video on it, anyone know if this has 3d acceleration and do i need to install something extra to take advantage?
[05:18] <Dragonfyre13> oh, crap. they took it out of dapper. just install unrar, and see if that works for the file. if it doesn't, I'll keep coaching.
[05:18] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:see previous
[05:18] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, hmm
[05:18] <wastrel> feryana:  you'll need to make some phone calls i guess :] .  check the university they may have a dental school that has a cheap teaching practice.
[05:19] <Shigun> crimsun: It works now, but I am completely confused as to why
[05:19] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, i got unrar.
[05:19] <feryana> thanks man!
[05:19] <crimsun> Shigun: 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' was set to 0, which is PCM (analog). Is it set to 1 or 3 now?
[05:19] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: once that is done, just do "unrar e file.r00" where file.r00 is the first of the series of rar files you want to unpack.
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> Shigun, the power of the force is strong in this one
[05:19] <bruenig> iamelite, unrar doesn't work for rar 3.0 compressed files or so i have read
[05:19] <Shigun> crimsun: I decided to test out the input/output port on my motherboard, instead of the SPDIF output, and it seems to be sending the sound through there
[05:19] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Uh oh...
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:19] <feryana> but more or less do you know any prices?
[05:19] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: what?
[05:19] <feryana> 100? 200?
[05:20] <Shigun> crimsun: still 0, also
[05:20] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, I tried to open it. it sais Bash : unrar : LMFAO you stupid noob!
[05:20] <crimsun> Shigun: if you change it to 1 (or 3), does it send through the spdif?
[05:20] <wastrel> dunno
[05:20] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: pastebin it.
[05:20] <jasonm_> hey, when i just logged in i got a message saying the x-server (i think) and gnome keyboard layouts differed and asked me which i wanted to use, i went with X... but now my alt+tab doesnt work... so im assuming i should have went wtih gnome, i pressed "dont ask me again", so i dont know how to fix this, anyone have any idea's?
[05:20] <zorplex> For some reason when I hit "Shift+Backspace" GNOME restarts, any clues?
[05:21] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, no im kidding. Was trying to say the computer was insulting me... Nvm. it worked
[05:21] <wastrel> zorplex it's a feature of xgl
[05:21] <zorplex> :/
[05:21] <zorplex> can I disable it?
[05:21] <zorplex> or change it?
[05:21] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: I thought so, but ubuntu devs do have a sense of humor... ^_^
[05:21] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, TY Grandmaster Dragsta
[05:21] <Flannel> zorplex: take XGL support questions to #ubuntu-xgl please
[05:21] <Shigun> crimsun: Through alsamixer, the only options is has are 0, 33, 67, and 100
[05:21] <zorplex> kk
[05:22] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:feel free to put it on my wiki if you found it helpful. www.dragonfyre13.com
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, apt-get moo
[05:22] <zorplex> then another q, How would one go about making the console translucent?
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, still do
[05:22] <Shigun> zorplex: using gnome-terminal?
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, will do**
[05:22] <wastrel> zorplex:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182007
[05:22] <zorplex> indeed
[05:22] <hbweb500> How can I enable simultaneous sounds in my sound server?
[05:22] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: hehehe.
[05:22] <zorplex> looking
[05:22] <skavenge> boy is frostwire buggy for me
[05:23] <crimsun> Shigun: 0 == 0, 1 == 33, 2 == 67, 3 == 100
[05:23] <Dragonfyre13> g2g, #apache is calling.
[05:23] <usuario1> hi
[05:23] <Dragonfyre13> #leave
[05:23] <Shigun> crimsun: ahhh, ok.  Well, I changed it through all of those values, and never once did the sound stop playing from my speakers
[05:23] <Ro1> hello
[05:23] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, oh great
[05:23] <hbweb500> skavenge: Isnt it slow? Im using limewire instead, much more responsive.
[05:23] <Dial_tone> is anyone able to transfer files in gaim?
[05:23] <Ro1> yeah
[05:23] <beefsprocket> speaking of gaim...
[05:23] <DarkMageZ> Dial_tone, from msn to msn yes
[05:23] <Ro1> anyone useing ubuntu on a laptop
[05:23] <beefsprocket> trying to compoile 2.0 beta 3
[05:23] <iamelite> Divx and Ubuntu...
[05:23] <Dial_tone> ok
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, yes
[05:24] <iamelite> hows it done
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> here ...
[05:24] <bitviper> anyone know how to hide joins to a channel in Gaim?
[05:24] <Ro1> well...my wireless card dosnt work
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> everywhere
[05:24] <DarkMageZ> beefsprocket, you don't need to, there are packages
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, you need to find out what model
[05:24] <Ro1> ok
[05:24] <beefsprocket> getting this error: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[05:24] <beefsprocket> i'd like to though
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, open a terminal window
[05:24] <Ro1> o
[05:24] <hbweb500> How can I make it so that I can play two sounds at the same time in ALSA?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> lspci
[05:24] <Ro1> k
[05:24] <skavenge> hbweb500 ; i haven't noticed a speed issue but i've been using it a few days and its bricked about three times shutting down my whole x session heh
[05:24] <jasonm_> on login i got a message saying the x-server (i think) and gnome keyboard layouts differed and asked me which i wanted to use, i went with X... but now my alt+tab doesnt work... so im assuming i should have went wtih gnome, i pressed "dont ask me again", so i dont know how to fix this, anyone have any idea's?
[05:24] <Ro1> terminl opened
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, type lspci
[05:24] <skavenge> its very promising though
[05:24] <crimsun> Shigun: still using plug:iec958?
[05:25] <Ro1> ok
[05:25] <bruenig> drkevorkian, did that work?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> I'll bet you see Broadcom
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> or bcm
[05:25] <hbweb500> skavenge: I see, for me it freezes and is unresponsive. Limewire is awesome.
[05:25] <zorplex> awesome, thx wastrel ^^
[05:25] <Ro1> yeah, its a broadcom
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !firmware
[05:25] <Ro1> 0000:03:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about firmware
[05:25] <iamelite> NVM... easy ubuntu
[05:25] <Shigun> crimsun: yes
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> good
[05:25] <bruenig> !nothing
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, you need to get the firmware for that
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !broadcom
[05:25] <Ro1> ah..where
[05:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:25] <Ro1> ok
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> looky there
[05:26] <zorplex> one more, quick question: (may have been answered already) How do you make the console translucent in gnome?
[05:26] <bruenig> !anything
[05:26] <Ro1> and there should be something on there?
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:26] <NickGarvey> pwned
[05:26] <crimsun> Shigun: try: amixer set 'IEC958' 'IEC958 In'
[05:26] <Ro1> ok, thanks a lot
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:26] <Ro1> i really like ubuntu, todays my first dya using it.....i higHHHHly recommened it over suse
[05:26] <gadis> hello
[05:26] <gadis> can help how to kill user on my box
[05:26] <usuario1> hi
[05:26] <gadis> i'm detect ilegal user login now
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> gadis, how?
[05:26] <Shigun> crimsun: amixer: Mixer attach default error: Invalid argument
[05:27] <gadis> ya how
[05:27] <gadis> kill ?
[05:27] <skavenge> just installed ubuntu the other day on a dell laptop with intel 915GM video on it, anyone know if this has 3d acceleration and do i need to install something extra to take advantage?
[05:27] <nothingman> from my /var/log/gdm/:0.log:
[05:27] <bruenig> gadis, system>administratin>users and groups can do it graphically
[05:27] <nothingman> (EE) S3VIRGE(1): Cannot read V_BIOS
[05:27] <gadis> bima Apr 28 04:34 (<IP_ADDRESS>) <== this is ilegal user how to disconect this guy
[05:27] <crimsun> Shigun: try: amixer -c0 set 'IEC958',0 'IEC958 In'
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, it does not have real 3d, but you can get pretty close
[05:27] <gadis> i need cmd
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> there is a package for that
[05:28] <zorplex> Quick Q: How do you make the GNOME console translucent?
[05:28] <gadis> it's for my server and don't have grapfhic
[05:28] <gadis> can help me
[05:28] <skavenge> nomasteryoda ; thanks i'll take a look in synaptic
[05:28] <winman> Is there a way to use dapper theme, those orange widgets and everything, in breezy?
[05:28] <_TomB> When I rebuild casper, where do I put the casper.conf file?
[05:28] <NickGarvey> whoa, lil-o is in this room
[05:28] <NickGarvey> is lil-o normally?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:28] <skavenge> yeah
[05:29] <NickGarvey> (I put a - on purpose)
[05:29] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16505
[05:29] <Toma-> gadis: what are you doing?
[05:29] <hbweb500> zorplex: Edit -> profiles, select the profile, edit button, effects
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> and what is this "illegal" user's name>?
[05:29] <gadis> Toma- can help me how to kill user i'm detect ilegal login in to my shell server
[05:29] <gadis> ilegal login i mean
[05:29] <zorplex> thx hbweb500
[05:29] <hbweb500> zorplex: np
[05:30] <disant> gadis, 1. lock his account 2. kill his terminal
[05:30] <crimsun> Shigun: ok, and any luck now?
[05:30] <heman> is it a common bug for the terminal to close immediately after it opens?
[05:30] <disant> but what do you mean "illega".. using someone elses accnt?
[05:30] <kleedrac> Silly question which I've found the answer to before but can't seem to now that I need it ... how do I set a shell script to run a process sudo'ed without needing to enter the password?
[05:30] <gadis> disant how to kill his terminal can give the command
[05:30] <gadis> i don't know
[05:31] <Shigun> crimsun: still sending through the in/out, and not the SPDIF.  I'm not too terribly worried about it, but its odd
[05:31] <Toma-> gadis: open up your own terminal and run "ps aux" then run "sudo kill -KILL <PID>" where PID is the number of the programs hes running
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gadis, please define your system.. not gui? what are you running?
[05:31] <wastrel> kleedrac:  you need to edit /etc/sudoers for the command to be run with the NOPASSWD flag
[05:31] <wastrel> kleedrac:  use visudo to edit sudoers, and read up on man sudoers
[05:31] <kleedrac> wastrel: That was it ... I was looking in /etc and just blind today :) ... thanks alot :)
[05:32] <blind> I know what you mean.
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> gadis, how about skill?
[05:32] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: sorry i missed when you last asked, and no i still have no luck
[05:32] <alpha255> it works great on my DV1000 hp laptop
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: you might use iecset directly, then.
[05:32] <alpha255> :)
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> gadis, skill -KILL -v /dev/pts/username
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> =
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> ?
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: particularly the pro and audio modes.
[05:32] <Shigun> crimsun: I've never had any experience with iecset
[05:32] <skavenge> everything worked out of the box except wireless on my dell laptop as well, was very pleased
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: it's pretty straightforward (and the man page documents it succinctly)
[05:33] <Shigun> crimsun: Ok, I will look into it.  Thank you very much for your help
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, I added a mini-pci wifi to this dell ... an intel a/b/g model... cost 22$
[05:33] <jherm> i just discovered why my broadcom onboard wifi wasn't working... i had to "rmmod bcm43xx"... can anyone tell me where i can automate this on boot? is there a blacklist for kernel modules?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> installed the newer firmware from the sf project and it works very well
[05:33] <Toma-> jherm: /etc/rc.local
[05:34] <Toma-> jherm: or yeh, the blacklist
[05:34] <skavenge> nomasteryoda ' have a mini-pci dell here, which is broadcom trash but with some ndiswrapper help its working fine
[05:34] <jshriver> Anyone here know of any video capturing programs that you can configure frmo the cli to make a linux box a DVR?
[05:34] <jshriver> except MythTV?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, ya, i did that on my work laptop
[05:34] <Toma-> jherm: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> works fine
[05:34] <jshriver> lol trying to figure out how to use mencoder
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> jshriver, look up the command lines on google
[05:34] <disant> gadis, 'skill -u <username>'
[05:34] <jshriver> been trying..
[05:34] <disant> will kill all of the users processes
[05:34] <jherm> thanks alot Toma-
[05:35] <Toma-> jherm: np
[05:35] <disant> but make sure you lock that acct before
[05:35] <jshriver> I can use mencoder fine for transcoding, but can't figure how to feed it from the v4l...have tried various -tv tv://channel and options nothing works
[05:35] <Toma-> jshriver: hang on a sec
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> this is a ipw2200 card
[05:35] <Toma-> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:35] <disant> gadis, 'passwd -l <username>'
[05:36] <NickGarvey> OUCH
[05:36] <deepalley> anyone here konw about Larry Augustine,a CEO
[05:36] <mathieu> i'm trying to map a button to be captured by acpid to generate an action
[05:36] <mathieu> acpi_listen shows that the output is seen by acpid but there has been no function assigned to it
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jshriver: http://dvr.sourceforge.net/html/main.html
[05:37] <disant> i think gadis is seen things.. he prob thought he's being hacked when saw his acct logged in to th ebox and just killed all of his proc :)    lesson... never fool w/linux while smokin pot :)
[05:37] <jshriver> thanks will try
[05:37] <mathieu> xev does not see any events from the pressing of the key
[05:37] <cpress> hey
[05:37] <Toma-> jshriver: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/recording.html
[05:37] <jshriver> I wouldnt even mind MythTV, but nto sure how to set it up under Ubuntu and this is my desktop so I dont want it to take control over the machine
[05:37] <alpha255> skavenge: well, I did run into the 915GM not being recognized by the installer, but I fixed it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <Toma-> jshriver: the last big grey section is a recording script
[05:37] <disant> jshriver, you've come to the right place :)
[05:37] <disant> I just finished setting up MythTV :)
[05:38] <jherm> also, is it recommended to use a win2k or winXP driver with ndiswrapper? should i just test both
[05:38] <Toma-> disant: you got mythtv to setup?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> distant Does it work well?
[05:38] <disant> I finished setting it up and it works like a charm :)
[05:38] <deepalley> how dose ubuntu surpport 3D desktop
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cool, it works under ubuntu?
[05:38] <Toma-> disant: did you have some sort of divine help?
[05:38] <disant> nah... 10 mins
[05:38] <Toma-> my god.
[05:39] <disant> took me more to configure wireless so I can move it to my TV
[05:39] <disant> the mythfrontend that is
[05:39] <Toma-> ive tried setting up mythtv like, 4 times and never have i got it to work.
[05:39] <disant> Toma-, where did it break?
[05:39] <jshriver> distant oh? how hard is it? I tried in Debian before and it was a pain
[05:39] <TassaDarK> hi
[05:39] <Toma-> disant: every single step. mostly on the mysql part
[05:39] <disant> http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> distant, can you define your setup? OS etc..
[05:39] <disant> xcept I got PVR-500
[05:39] <Toma-> bad link
[05:40] <disant> link works here
[05:40] <jshriver> distant: do you have to use breezy?
[05:40] <cpress> so, how do i fix it?
[05:40] <disant> "apt-get install apache mysql  mythmusic mythtv mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend mythweather"
[05:41] <Toma-> cpress: fix what?
[05:41] <cpress> um..
[05:41] <disant> well.. I'm running 5.10
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> distant... thanks for the link... WAY COOL...
[05:41] <cpress> root@server1:~# apt-get install postfix postfix-tls libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail
[05:42] <cpress> Reading package lists... Done
[05:42] <cpress> Building dependency tree...  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <Toma-> !coc
[05:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:43] <disant> Jack_Sparrow, the next step would be to hack my xbox the way my boss has at work.. install linux on it, make it wireless and use it as mythfrontend
[05:43] <Toma-> knowledge is power! :)
[05:44] <disant> .. xcept I'll prob do it to my PSII
[05:44] <jshriver> I dont know the naming conventions for ubuntu... is the latest version when you download the CD iso and do a net install breezy?
[05:44] <disant> .. cuz dont have xbox :)
[05:44] <winman> ok, I need to get those MS fonts installed, Trebuchet MS and everything, I tried installing msttcorefonts .. but it says the package could not be found, I have multiverse enabled .. any leads?
[05:44] <wastrel> jshriver:  no, dapper is the latest
[05:44] <Toma-> jshriver: no, dapper
[05:44] <jshriver> what's the diff?
[05:44] <jshriver> getting errors on apt-get install mythtv, etc
[05:44] <cpress> ok..
[05:44] <disant> what errors?
[05:44] <cpress> so, what am i suppose to do?
[05:45] <wastrel> jshriver:  graphical installer, updated packages, better hardware detection/configuraton.
[05:45] <kleedrac> OK so I've added the entry to sudoers but I'll still need to call the script as sudo can I make a launcher for it (I plan on having it open in terminal anyhow) or would I be better off using gksudo?
[05:45] <wastrel> winman:  did you update after enabling multiverse?
[05:45] <wastrel> ?
[05:45] <jshriver> hrm.. I gave the wrong password for Mysql how do I change it so I can install mythtv?
[05:46] <disant> do 'apt-get remove mythtv' and rerun it
[05:46] <winman> wastrel, yes I did
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > hmm, mythtv ?
[05:46] <disant> the pass is blank first
[05:46] <disant> [Ex0r] , yeah
[05:46] <disant> r00lz
[05:47] <cpress> Toma: any clues?
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > hmm, sort of like dvr
[05:47] <wastrel> winman:  it's definitely in multiverse in dapper... dunno
[05:47] <disant> although I dont care as much for the TV recording part as for having a nice frontend to play my vidz and music off my fileserver
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > don't have a tv tuner card for that though :\
[05:47] <disant> [Ex0r] , it is THE dvr
[05:47] <disant> you can get one under $100
[05:48] <disant> under $50 even
[05:48] <Toma-> cpress: apt-get install postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail
[05:48] <disant> but see my post above re other uses
[05:48] <winman> wastrel, ok thanks ... its called "msttcorefonts" right?
[05:48] <jshriver> hrm apt is crapping out because I gave it the wrong mysql password.. I tried apt-get remove mythtv-database mythtv then intall.. but seems to be storing the password elsewhere
[05:48] <cpress> Toma-: dont i need postfix-tls
[05:48] <jshriver> how do I get around this?
[05:48] <wastrel> msttcorefonts yes
[05:48] <fdelacruz> goodmorning guys and good evening
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > disant, i'll just wait til I get my cable bill caught up and order comcast dvr from them :)
[05:48] <disant> jshriver, it will prompt you for password I think
[05:48] <NickGarvey> fdelacruz: :)
[05:48] <Toma-> cpress: if you understood what apt-get was telling you, it says "You dont need postfix-tls as its part of postfix"
[05:48] <SpecialCore> does anyone know how to use "Cisco VPNC" or any channel to talk about it?
[05:48] <fdelacruz> hi nickGarvey
[05:49] <jshriver> distant aye but I entered the wrong one
[05:49] <cpress> o ok
[05:49] <cpress> Toma-: thx
[05:49] <Toma-> np
[05:49] <jshriver> now when I try to install it errors out and doesnt ask me anymore
[05:49] <disant> [Ex0r] , does it skip the ads and stuff? does it let you save in mpeg2?
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > disant, yes it skips ads, and not sure about mpeg2
[05:49] <disant> jshriver, try changing your mysql password
[05:50] <disant> install phpmyadmin
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > but I know that it's usb accessible so you can access the hdd from a computer so I can take the recordings and compress them to whatever :)
[05:50] <Abnix> ok what'd I hose up:  checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables  ??
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > jshriver, apt-get remove mythtv
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > and than go in and delete the folder that contained the contents
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > probably /etc/mythtv
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > than re-un apt-get install mythtv
[05:51] <Abnix> couldn't he just do sudo apt-config mythtv ?
[05:51] <jshriver> |Ex0r| tried that... but when I try apt-get install mythtv mythtv-database it no longer prompts for password
[05:52] <disant> i think its myth-frontend
[05:52] <disant> remove all that you installed and reinstall
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > mythtv doesn't run over the x system does it? (Meaning that it does automatically start during bootup and consumes like the entire screen) ?
[05:53] <disant> no
[05:53] <disant> it can run in a window, too
[05:54] <disant> but you can configure it to run instead of the other default window manager
[05:54] <daaku> anyone know why ubuntu comes with python* installed? (just curious)
[05:54] <disant> you'll have to run something simple like fluxbox
[05:54] <jshriver> hrm had to dpkg -P all of them
[05:54] <winman> wastrel, got it :) .. somehow enabling multiverse using command line wasn't as effective :)
[05:54] <crimsun> daaku: because many things rely on python
[05:54] <alpha255> python is fun!
[05:54] <NickGarvey> yes it is!
[05:55] <wastrel> <3 python
[05:55] <vladtheimpala> can someone tell me the difference between the 1 cd and 5 cd editions on the shipit page?  is this just more software or what?
[05:55] <jshriver> ok it seems installed but getting this error
[05:55] <jshriver> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[05:55] <bimberi> vladtheimpala: no, it's just the number of CD packages you will be sent
[05:55] <NickGarvey> vladtheimpala: one of them you get 1 cd, other one you get 1 cd and 4 for your friends :)
[05:55] <vladtheimpala> ohh, so for like passing out to friends and such?
[05:55] <NickGarvey> yup
[05:55] <disant> is mysql up?
[05:56] <vladtheimpala> ok great, thanks
[05:56] <bimberi> vladtheimpala: you got it :)
[05:56] <daaku> crimsun: surely not every single python package it comes with is needed - i just removed a bunch, and most of them were not needed
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > wow, very nice software :)
[05:56] <disant> [Ex0r] , which
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > just gotta wait til a tv tuner card goes on sale now :)
[05:56] <disant> [Ex0r] , pricewatch.com
[05:57] <skavenge> i need one of those external usb tuners for my laptop, that'd be sweet
[05:57] <skavenge> i've got one in the desktop
[05:57] <crimsun> daaku: you don't need anything but the C lib if you know what you're doing.
[05:57] <crimsun> daaku: everything else, to some extent, is a convenience.
[05:57] <[Ex0r] > gotta find one that does audio and video
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> distant will the ATI All in Wo Pro AGP work with MythTVnder
[05:58] <fdelacruz> hi guys need help how can I divide my networks into 10 subnets
[05:58] <vladtheimpala> ubuntu fits on one cd?  i used to have fedora and it took a dvds worth
[05:58] <disant> Jack_Sparrow, RTFM : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ONe CD
[05:58] <daaku> crimsun: whoa, chill out.. it was a harmless question. and anyways, i would ask the same question if i saw c libraries that seemed to be redundant
[05:58] <NickGarvey> !rtfm
[05:58] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:59] <disant> oops.. sorry
[05:59] <NickGarvey> ;)
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> distant... you must be from the Debian RTFM group..
[05:59] <disant> nah.. we use it at work though.. L2 to L1 :)
[05:59] <disant> (support)
[05:59] <disant> RTFM = read the FINE manual
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea right
[06:00] <daaku> crimsun: the python ones strike out compared to others because there's over a 50 of them
[06:00] <disant> anhyho..hitting the hay
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dont let the door hit you in the manual
[06:00] <KBlair> Doh!
[06:01] <crimsun> daaku: I don't view that as a problem. You have the freedom to create your own derivative, not to mention there are other distros, if Python packages being included is problematic.
[06:01] <skavenge> i gotta find something to break everything is working and im bored heh
[06:02] <jshriver> distant did you get the authentication error?
[06:02] <crimsun> skavenge: rm -f /boot/{vmlinuz*,initrd*} && sync && reboot
[06:02] <crimsun> skavenge: (obviously don't do that)
[06:02] <skavenge> crimsun; that's a bit more broke than i need i think ;)
[06:03] <sivanicon> I was following the compiz howto on the guide and now I get error when i boot and cant get gui, any ideas?
[06:03] <daaku> crimsun: fair enough, if you dont view it as a problem, you can ignore the question. but i would hope that with a open source/community driven distribution the users have the right to ask questions
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> sivanicon, you missed a step somewhere
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> i would guess
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daaku: and express opinions
[06:04] <skavenge> honestly thats what i like about synaptic though, i can find programs to play with
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> should get it back to some normalcy
[06:04] <Daveyboy> can you install kde utils/apps in gnome? For example k3b in gnome?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[06:05] <crimsun> daaku: of course we do. It needs to be asked on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, however, with a clear plan of how to address it.
[06:05] <skavenge> Daveyboy ; yes, thankfully since k3b is the best heh
[06:05] <Daveyboy> skavenge, thanks
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:05] <daaku> Jack_Sparrow: definitely
[06:05] <skavenge> you just have to install some kde parts but synaptic will take care of it
[06:06] <Dial_tone> dang, everytime I follow a howto it messes up my fgl. I am getting an nvidia card and soon
[06:06] <crimsun> daaku: i.e., "omgtoomuchpython" is insufficient. Prototype a fresh, default install with replacements for the python packages (while retaining functionality), and provide statistical indication of what it will offer. A cost-benefit analysis, if you will.
[06:07] <daaku> crimsun, Jack_Sparrow: its all good. i was only wondering if there's a known reason for all the python packages to be installed by default. i dont really have a problem with it. apt-get --purge remove works just fine for me. thanks for all the help though
[06:08] <daaku> crimsun: 'omgilovepython' doesnt seem to be a very valid argument either
[06:08] <crimsun> daaku: no, python is essentially mandated by the sabdfl.
[06:08] <crimsun> daaku: and seeing how he funds Canonical (and thus Ubuntu), I'm sure he will like the analysis more than I care.
[06:09] <Dial_tone> I didn't realize MS killed WinFS for good
[06:09] <meheren> im bored
[06:09] <ardchoille> Dial_tone: yeah, they've only been working on it since 1995 without any release
[06:09] <meheren> sudo mount -t iso9660  -o /home/meheren/Desktop/install-x86-minimal-2006.0.iso ~/Desktop/gentoo\ install
[06:09] <crimsun> daaku: again, the proper forum -- with a clear indication of thorough, investigated replacements -- should be addressed to the ubuntu-devel mailing list.
[06:09] <daaku> crimsun: so no good reason then. thanks again for the answer
[06:09] <meheren> what am i doing wrong?
[06:10] <alpha255> i thought winfs was going to be an add on
[06:10] <daaku> crimsun: again, not really a problem, more about curiosity and less about 'iwanttheworldmyway'
[06:10] <crimsun> daaku: I have no idea what you consider "good", though I do know what I would consider easier to maintain from my packages.
[06:11] <sivanicon> i tried sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and redid the config but still doesnt work
[06:11] <sivanicon> the guide made me add the /usr/bin/thefuture script to start up how would i get rid of that?
[06:12] <meheren> sudo mount -t iso9660  -o /home/meheren/Desktop/install-x86-minimal-2006.0.iso ~/Desktop/gentoo\ install
[06:12] <meheren> anyone have any idea what's wrong with this command?
[06:12] <crimsun> you're missing "loop" after -o
[06:12] <meheren> lol
[06:12] <meheren> thx so much
[06:12] <ShadeFX> Hey guys. I need a bit of help. I'm about to format my HDD and install Ubuntu 5.10 as my primary OS. However, I'm on a wireless network using a NetGear 54mbps wireless USB 2.0 adapter (WG111v2)
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> good catch crimsun
[06:12] <crimsun> not to mention you didn't indicate whether loop.ko is loaded.
[06:12] <meheren> hehe worked :)
[06:13] <ShadeFX> Will ubuntu 5.10 allow me to connect to my network using that adapter?
[06:13] <Abnix> meheren: immigrating from ubuntu here to gentoo?
[06:14] <ShadeFX> Anyone? Does anyone know where I could find out if you guys don't know?
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> People... thanks for all the help.. C everyone tomorrow
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, no just trying gentoo out
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Shade, I think that is supported,
[06:15] <alpha255> crimsun: what's the difference between a .ko and kernel module?
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, im dual installing
[06:15] <Abnix> meheren: ahh, cool, best of luck to you on that
[06:15] <ShadeFX> Thanks, Jack. So I'd just pop in the install disc for the adapter after I install ubuntu, and just proceed from there?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> One of my systems has that USB adapter... Just not sure which OS is on that box
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, thx :)
[06:15] <scud> i must say printing rocks in ubuntu
[06:16] <calebt> how can i run gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06???
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shade, I would run the live first just to see if it sees it
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> live cd that is
[06:17] <ShadeFX> Jack, I tried that, it didn't recongnize it. I figure it's because the driver isn't installed or the adapter is configured for ubuntu? I'm using windows right now.
[06:17] <poningru> how does one delete their bash history?
[06:17] <meheren> what's the program that can connect to the itunes music library again?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> If live didnt see it I doubt it will work
[06:17] <ShadeFX> I see.
[06:17] <tritium> poningru: history -c
[06:17] <sivanicon> how do you restart xorg?
[06:17] <ShadeFX> Well, thanks anyway.
[06:17] <tritium> sivanicon: are you running gdm?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> I may be running Knoppix on that netgear box
[06:18] <poningru> tritium: thanks mate
[06:18] <sivanicon> i hope
[06:18] <nbjayme> anybody know of a commandline utility to convert avi to ogg format?
[06:19] <The_Guardian> does anyone know if Ethereal works with dapper
[06:19] <The_Guardian> ?
[06:19] <sivanicon> tritium:i think so
[06:19] <crimsun> The_Guardian: yes, it does.
[06:19] <Centaur5> Does anybody know if installing the fglrx drivers would improve my integrated ATI 200M video card on my laptop?
[06:20] <The_Guardian> crim which version? I assume the debian one?
[06:20] <wasabi> The_Guardian, the one that comes with Dapper has a high chance of working. ;)
[06:20] <wasabi> Simple search of the package manager would show it.
[06:20] <meheren> anyone know the program that allows you to buy songs from apple
[06:20] <meheren> the itunes like program...
[06:21] <Aesop> Hey, anyone know of a good method to convert video files encoded in WMV to something else? DOesn't really matter what it winds up as as long as its not WMV.
[06:21] <The_Guardian> that's what I thought wasabi
[06:21] <The_Guardian> it doesn't show up for me
[06:21] <wasabi> might be in universe
[06:21] <lib8264q> hello
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > meheren, itunes ? That's the only one I know of. Unless Napster added in itunes support
[06:22] <chem199> Does anyone know the fix for the AC 97 on board sound card, I get a crackling sound and occasionally I sound, but quickly it goes back to the crackling, I checked all of the volume levels, I am at my wits end, any help would be appreciated
[06:22] <calebt> i can't run gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06, please help me
[06:23] <wasabi> calebt, That's generally something you don't need to run manually. Are you saying it doesn't launch automatically?
[06:23] <mathieu> i'm trying to map a button to be captured by acpid to generate an action
[06:23] <mathieu> acpi_listen shows that the output is seen by acpid but there has been no function assigned to it anyone have any ideas how to do this ?
[06:23] <pvd> how do you install a .jar file
[06:23] <pvd> ?
[06:23] <pvd> or extract it
[06:23] <wasabi> pvd, You don't. It's not something that you "install."
[06:23] <[Ex0r] > pvd, sudo java -jar filename.ja
[06:23] <wasabi> It's a java class library
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > pvd, sudo java -jar filename.jar *
[06:24] <The_Guardian> wasabi you're right it's in universe
[06:24] <wasabi> You can run it though.
[06:24] <The_Guardian> thanks!
[06:24] <pvd> thanks
[06:24] <wasabi> Geeze.
[06:24] <metamorphis> can anyone tell me what will keep ubuntu from writning the file system to disc from the live cd 6.06
[06:24] <wasabi> Lets tell people to run random .jar files as rootl
[06:24] <wasabi> Sounds like a good plan.
[06:24] <pvd> its for google video
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > Well, considering the six I have used won't let you unless you sudo, yes it does.
[06:24] <oni-dracula> metamorphis, I had to use the alternate cd for it to pass the file system install :)
[06:25] <Punk-Fetish> metamorphis: not touching the install button?
[06:25] <metamorphis> thanx i guess i'll try it then
[06:25] <meheren> [Ex0r] , howabout telling them to run it...
[06:26] <meheren> then when it fials to tell them to use sudo...?
[06:26] <lib8264q> hello all can someone tell me if i download files and cache tem locally instead of installing right way where do they get stored ?
[06:27] <wastrel> lib8264q:  /var/cache/apt/
[06:27] <pvd> weird, google wont let me upload video anymore without this, "Software"
[06:27] <tritium> lib8264q: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > I offer my help as a one-at-a-time package. If they can't decide whether or not it's safe to run it that way, not my problem.
[06:27] <lib8264q> cool thanks ...
[06:27] <meheren> [Ex0r] , bear in mind some ppl here are complete noobs...
[06:28] <regeya> "ppl", meh
[06:28] <Aesop> Nevermind on mine, I think Mencoder can do it...
[06:28] <meheren> that know apsolutely nothing about even what "kernel" or "terminal" mean...
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > :\ were'nt allowed to say that word! lol
[06:28] <Aesop> Wow, this thing is fast, or slow. I'm not sure
[06:28] <meheren> [Ex0r] , right sry... :(
[06:28] <meheren> it's ah people
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > meheren, - I meant noobs, lol
[06:28] <Aesop> 3%, that means its slow, not fast
[06:28] <regeya> meheren: sounds like an orientation session is in order
[06:29] <tomlikestorock> hey all. On my laptop, I had tv-out. Then I installed xgl, and couldn't get tv-out on my laptop.  What's the deal?
[06:29] <meheren> lol...
[06:29] <n30n> cacls is the command for permissions right
[06:29] <regeya> meheren: or wait for gnome 4.0, which will consist only of a screen-filling button containing a foot with the words 'click here' on the ball of the foot
[06:29] <Aesop> Hey, kind of a random question, but does anyone have any reccomendations for good portable headphones?
[06:29] <meheren> regeya, to complicated... lol
[06:29] <regeya> and then it'll perform some sort of operation that brings an end to the universe
[06:29] <MTecknology> I need help!!!   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16508
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, aren't all headphones portable? ::)
[06:30] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , nope. You gonna take a set of $800 headphones out in public?
[06:30] <n30n> Ex0r: lol
[06:30] <Dial_tone> does xchat support aliases or do you need a plugin/script?
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, sure, with them locked to my neck
[06:30] <calebt> i can't run manually gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06, please help me
[06:31] <meheren> lol i wouldn't buy the $8000 headphones in the firstplace...
[06:31] <decadentevil> when I boot i get a screen saying it cant open rgb_db
[06:31] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , I'd just rather not. My studio headphones also require an amp... Not portable.
[06:31] <tritium> calebt: that's not meant to be run by the user
[06:31] <meheren> err $800
[06:31] <tomlikestorock> ugh.
[06:31] <tomlikestorock> anyone?
[06:31] <Aesop> Hmm
[06:31] <Aesop> XGL obviously changed something
[06:31] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, if you are looking for headphones that would in fact be portable, than all headphones are portable. (Would seem rather pointless to have studio headphones on an mp3 player)
[06:31] <Aesop> Frankly, I have no idea what, though.
[06:31] <skavenge> after awhile with my laptop all videos are very dark and unwatchable, im using totem, a restart of x fixes it is there a command or something to refresh so i dont have to totally restart???
[06:31] <Aesop> What's the laptop?
[06:32] <chem199> Nevermind, fixed it.
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> acer 4400 travelmat
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> e
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> well, is there something I should reinstall to overwrite the changes?
[06:32] <Aesop> tomlikestorock, Ubunty.
[06:32] <Aesop> Ubuntu*, even
[06:33] <tomlikestorock> :(
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, but I would suggest some sony wrap arounds. Could pick some up for about 30 bucks with volume control
[06:33] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , do they sound good?
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, Depends what you are using them for. I have some for my mp3 player and they sound marvelous.
[06:34] <Aesop> I was gonna suggest some stuff to him that might've helped.
[06:34] <Daveyboy> anyone have the link with the complete list of walkt hroughs for desktop c onfig> java , nvidia etc.
[06:34] <wastrel> well don't be sarcastic first then
[06:34] <tritium> you can chat all you want about headphones in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:34] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, and if you like bass, the headphones give off some nice bass as well
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > !easyubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:34] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , I'm plannign to use them on my MP3 player. Difference is, I'm used to reference-quality headphones, and I want something that's up there, but cheaper. =P Maybe a pair of Shure's.
[06:35] <PORDO> IT WAS 310k here in Portland today.
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, damn, you beat me to it
[06:35] <emdash> i'm trying to build a patched ati driver with dpkg-buildpackage and i get this error, seems like something simple. i'm following the instructions in the apt-howto
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, ah, you are looking at the top top top of the line ;)
[06:35] <emdash> sh-3.1$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu7
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Fabio M. Di Nitto<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture powerpc
[06:35] <emdash>  fakeroot debian/rules clean
[06:35] <emdash> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied
[06:35] <tritium> emdash: use pastebin!
[06:35] <emdash> gar
[06:35] <emdash> what is that
[06:36] <pvd> did you try sudo?
[06:36] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , no, I already HAVE top-top, those are my Grado's. I want something that, if the MP3 player and headphones get stolen, I'm gonna be more pissed about the MP3 player.
[06:36] <emdash> i thought that was the purpose of akeroot
[06:36] <tritium> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <tritium> Aesop: [Ex0r] : please talk about headphones in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <pvd> anyone know what terminal lets you do tabbed terminals?
[06:36] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : by like 15 seconds heh
[06:36] <NickGarvey> pvd: I know konsole does
[06:37] <wastrel> pvd:  gnome-terminal
[06:37] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, Screen lag :\
[06:37] <pvd> ah ok
[06:37] <emdash> pvd: gnome ferminal, e:fb
[06:37] <Aesop> tritium, yeah, wondered when you'd chime in. >.> Know of a way to make mencoder work faster?
[06:37] <Daveyboy> the support page that had all the install /conmfig commands for java, codecs etc.
[06:37] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ;)
[06:37] <[Ex0r] > Feel like i'm playing CS 1.06 on dial-up all over again
[06:37] <emdash> pvd: also i think there's mrxvt
[06:38] <tritium> Aesop: no
[06:38] <Aesop> tritium, Darn.
[06:38] <pvd> Thanks, multiple terminals in seperate windows sucks
[06:38] <pvd> :-x
[06:38] <heman> anyone know a good (tiny) http server for Ubuntu?
[06:39] <NickGarvey> heman: monkey is pretty small
[06:39] <[Ex0r] > heman, monkey is pretty small
[06:39] <emdash> pvd: gnome-terminal has it's own problems, for me
[06:39] <Aesop> heman, apache isn't exactly large.
[06:39] <emdash> pvd: it gets wonky if i use screen
[06:39] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ..
[06:39] <pvd> emdash, what is screen for again?
[06:39] <pvd> I never got the idea of screen.
[06:40] <Guitarhero> anyone know how to get a shared wireless connection going?  I have a wireless card in a windows box i want it to be shared with my ubuntu comp
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: it makes a lot of sense if you log into other machines: it's a terminal emulator for the terminal
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey : . .
[06:40] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for walkthrough commands of all the desktop config packages
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: you can have multiple screens on one terminal and share them from other logins
[06:40] <NickGarvey> nick garvey is the coolest
[06:40] <NickGarvey> pvd: screen is amazing for ssh
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: if you don't use it i hink gnome-terminal works well enough
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > screen is AWESOME for ssh
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: I just discovered screen a week ago
[06:41] <emdash> pvd: or you could try the xfce version which seems faster
[06:41] <pvd> ohh ok, I only have one machine, haha.
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: make an effort to learn it it's awesome
[06:41] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r]  smells
[06:41] <emdash> pvd: ah, well it's still handy
[06:41] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, I smell it too, wonder what that is.
[06:41] <NickGarvey> maybe its candy
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: it is like using multiple tabs...
[06:41] <pvd> I wish I could get XGL working right on Xfce! But im not going to start a XGL discussion in here
[06:41] <yeft> is ubuntu like beginner's linux?
[06:42] <tritium> yeft: beginners can use it, but it's no less advanced than any other distro
[06:42] <[Ex0r] > yeft, mandrake used to be, now it's mandriva and i've not used it
[06:42] <pvd> Is Mandriva actually easier than ubuntu?
[06:42] <yeft> thanks tritium and [Ex0r]
[06:42] <bruenig> yeft, ubuntu is easier to use than others but is not beginners in the sense that it is restricted or unable to complete the more complex tasks as others
[06:42] <pvd> I dont see how it could get easier
[06:42] <Aesop> Linspire
[06:42] <pvd> oh god
[06:43] <pvd> lol
[06:43] <Aesop> The Geo Metro of Linux distros.
[06:43] <bruenig> mepis
[06:43] <InfoxicatingLady> yeft: everything I've heard says that ubuntu is the easiest one to use... ie, the most user friendly. but I guess its dependent on what you're used to
[06:43] <Aesop> Yeah, Mepis.
[06:43] <pvd> Mepis is easier than Ubuntu?
[06:43] <bruenig> if you want to pay
[06:43] <badrinarayan> pvd: well for instance, you shouldn't need to use console for samba shares to work
[06:43] <yeft> yeah, i mean no one says linux has gotta be hard to be good right?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> pvd: depends on who you ask.. but I say no
[06:43] <Aesop> Linspire == Linux trying to act liek Windows
[06:43] <badrinarayan> pvd: yes, mepis is easier for newbs
[06:43] <Double_D> anyone: how can i edit the preferences of an audio file so it shows up under the correct artist/album in rhythmbox?
[06:43] <Aesop> Personally, not easy.
[06:43] <pvd> Linspire = horrible
[06:43] <tanlaan> hey all
[06:43] <bruenig> linux is no harder than windows, just different
[06:43] <Aesop> bruenig, eh... Depends on what you want to do.
[06:43] <badrinarayan> ^^ agrees
[06:43] <NickGarvey> yeah, its just changing what you are used too
[06:44] <tanlaan> im just in here for a simple explanation
[06:44] <Aesop> Gaming under linux is almost always more difficult.
[06:44] <InfoxicatingLady> aergern : I thought the point of Linux was to get *away* from Windoze
[06:44] <DShepherd> !offtopic
[06:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:44] <Aesop> tanlaan, shoot?
[06:44] <yeft> bruenig: if sutff were to come made for linux it would be incredibly easy
[06:44] <InfoxicatingLady> Aesop , rather
[06:44] <bruenig> Gaming is harder because of the lack of support
[06:44] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is the "symbols" font that people use for greek letters available on Linux/ Ubuntu?
[06:44] <Aesop> bruenig, all we need is Direct X....
[06:44] <Guitarhero> i hope edgy has better ati support
[06:44] <Guitarhero> or i should say ati should support edgy more
[06:44] <pvd> thats up to ATI most likely
[06:44] <tanlaan> how do i unpack tarballs, and also how to install and uninstall the programs i unpack
[06:44] <screwston> Hey guys can anyone help? I get an error when trying to complie the kernal 2.6.12 in Ubuntu 5.10. Here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/71801
[06:44] <[Ex0r] > anyone know what the next ubuntu release is going to be called?
[06:44] <yeft> nvidia's got linux drivers :)
[06:45] <tanlaan> any help would be awesome
[06:45] <Aesop> InfoxicatingLady, yeah, well. I was using Lnux for years before I discovered windows and the wonders of gaming. Now I have a dual boot system and a Mac for video.
[06:45] <yeft> Edgy Eft
[06:45] <Guitarhero> or i should say ati should support edgy more
[06:45] <metamorphis> what you need tanlan
[06:45] <Aesop> tanlaan, what do you need help with?
[06:45] <bruenig> Aesop, i may be wrong here, i dont game or have many peripheral devices so i tend to have a very easy go of stuff
[06:45] <Guitarhero> oops
[06:45] <Aesop> Oh
[06:45] <Aesop> Tarballs
[06:45] <Double_D> anyone: how can i edit the preferences of an audio file so it shows up under the correct artist/album in rhythmbox?
[06:45] <Guitarhero>  anyone know how to get a shared wireless connection going?  I have a wireless card in a windows box i want it to be shared with my ubuntu comp
[06:45] <pvd> yeah Id use mac for media, linux for everything else:)
[06:45] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'tar -zxvf <filename>' for .tar.gz files
[06:45] <DShepherd> tanlaan: right click and click extract here. or double click on it
[06:45] <tanlaan> say ok
[06:45] <bruenig> Double_D, i believe cowbell does, that i have never used it though
[06:45] <emdash> ahhhh
[06:45] <emdash> ok
[06:46] <Guitarhero> i hope edgy is better at networking
[06:46] <emdash> i have to make debian/rules +x
[06:46] <tanlaan> but how do i install the program?
[06:46] <Double_D> bruenig: cowbell, is that an application, then?
[06:46] <Guitarhero> ive had nothing but nightmares with breezy and dapper
[06:46] <bruenig> 'sudo apt-get cowbell'
[06:46] <tanlaan> that i would have unpacked
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, './configure'
[06:46] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for the wiki that has the complete list of install/config commands for desktop pacckages?
[06:46] <emdash> which would have happened if i'd used dpkg-source -x on the .dsc file
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'make'
[06:46] <Double_D> bruenig: thank you much.
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'sudo make install'
[06:46] <tritium> Guitarhero: that's quite odd
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, In that order, will install most programs
[06:46] <bruenig> apt-get install cowbell
[06:46] <bruenig> my fault
[06:46] <emdash> but because i applied the debian patch by hand it didn't make debian/rules executable
[06:46] <Guitarhero> i cant even get a simple wireless connection going with dapper, i could do it with breezy
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Guitarhero: couldn't with either
[06:47] <NickGarvey> <- suse 10.1
[06:47] <tritium> Guitarhero: which wireless card/chipset?
[06:47] <Aesop> Guitarhero, wireless on Linux is always a pain in the... What's your chipset on the card?
[06:47] <NickGarvey> ;)
[06:47] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for the wiki that has the complete list of install/config commands for desktop pacckages?
[06:47] <Guitarhero> netgear 54mbps
[06:47] <tanlaan> thanks a bunch aesop
[06:47] <Guitarhero> thats all i know about it
[06:47] <Aesop> tanlaan, did it work?
[06:47] <bruenig> !anything
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[06:48] <tanlaan> say i just need to know so i could write it down
[06:48] <Guitarhero> ive been trying to get my linksys in my windows box to be shared with the ubuntu machine but thats even harder
[06:48] <tanlaan> blah sorry for the "say"
[06:48] <NickGarvey> bruenig: its the simple things ;)
[06:48] <Aesop> tanlaan, used to MOOs?
[06:48] <tanlaan> lmao yup
[06:48] <screwston> i know lots of ppl are talking but is anyone free to troubleshoot my error with kernal compilation????
[06:48] <Aesop> tanlaan, where do you play?
[06:48] <tanlaan> im playing an awesome DBZ one
[06:48] <tanlaan> reality.nme.nu
[06:48] <tanlaan> thats the website for it
[06:48] <tanlaan> but im looking for a good MUD client
[06:48] <tritium> Guitarhero: can you find out the chipset please?
[06:49] <tanlaan> no MOO
[06:49] <Aesop> tanlaan, yeah, I know of it. didn't like it much. Check out 'GMUD' in synaptic.
[06:49] <Guitarhero> ahhh
[06:49] <tanlaan> not MOO
[06:49] <Guitarhero> yeah i think
[06:49] <tanlaan> Gnome-mud
[06:49] <tanlaan> thats what i got
[06:49] <Guitarhero> how would i go about finding the chipset
[06:49] <FireFly> I am trying to unistall my graphics driver to reinstall it, where is the unistall file locates, I have a ati card
[06:49] <tanlaan> lol
[06:49] <tanlaan> but it sucks
[06:49] <Aesop> tanlaan, better than TF =P
[06:49] <FireFly> located*
[06:49] <tanlaan> i need macros, so i can use the F keys
[06:49] <tanlaan> cause its a time based battle system
[06:49] <Aesop> Meh.
[06:49] <tanlaan> and alot simpler than aliases
[06:49] <Aesop> I play RP M*s.
[06:49] <tritium> !enter
[06:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:50] <tanlaan> nice
[06:50] <Aesop> Right, mencoder finished up, I've helped someone, so I'm out. Cya all.
[06:50] <tanlaan> i was just hoping to find a good mud client
[06:50] <badrinarayan> you can try shift+enter though..
[06:50] <FireFly> does anyone know how I would reinstall my graphics drivers?
[06:50] <wastrel> wah. why won't ghemicaal compile :p
[06:50] <garryF> Using symantec package manager you should be able to uninstall and reinstall in one step by marking it for reinstallation.
[06:51] <Guitarhero> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > garryF, I hope symantec isn't designing stuff for linux :)
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > synaptic*
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > is what it should be
[06:51] <garryF> See, I can never get it straight.
[06:51] <_-Ghosst-_> any idea how to get  voice on yahoo with gaim messenger ?
[06:52] <[Ex0r] > _-Ghosst-_, there's a special plug-in for it, IIRC
[06:52] <dooglus> tanlaan: is 'xmacro' of any use to you?
[06:52] <dooglus> tanlaan: or run "apt-cache search mud client" to get a list of mud clients
[06:53] <Double_D> bruenig: worked like a charm.  you da man!
[06:54] <root_> fsdf
[06:54] <root_>
[06:54] <wastrel> !cn
[06:54] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > ...
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > how is he running xchat as root?
[06:55] <root_> #ubuntu-cn
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > doesn't the new version NOT open if you are root ?
[06:55] <root_> nihao
[06:55] <wastrel> how do you know he's running xchat
[06:55] <L-----D> root_: /j #ubuntu-cn
[06:56] <[Ex0r] > It's the only IRC client i've used that sets the username and hostname to root automatically
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > where as root_ being the alternative, because root is in use on freenode
[06:57] <_-Ghosst-_> where can i find IIRC ?
[06:57] <skavenge> alright thats enough im done with frostwire
[06:57] <L-----D> [Ex0r] : yep nice thought
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > _-Ghosst-_, IIRC means If I Recall Correctly
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > L-----D,  ?
[06:58] <[Ex0r] > Was that sarcasm?
[06:58] <garryF> Last night I advised someone to use EasyUbuntu and it whacked his system, which was about the time someone said the repositories were down. Has anyone run it with sucess since?
[06:58] <L-----D> no
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> lol
[06:58] <dooglus> _-Ghosst-_: IIRC is an acronym for "if I remember correctly"
[06:58] <[Ex0r] > L-----D, ah okay :)
[06:58] <garryF> Lol dooglus
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> ok
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> first time i've seen that one lol
[06:58] <dooglus> where can I find STFU?
[06:59] <[Ex0r] > !stfu
[06:59] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:59] <L-----D> lol
[06:59] <dooglus> heh
[06:59] <_-Ghosst-_> lmao
[06:59] <dooglus> I like how ubutu puts a period after his 'period'
[06:59] <RabidSnail> Gnash crashes firefox whenever it loads a flash file.
[06:59] <garryF> So that means you better not make your nickname one of those words if you can.
[06:59] <[Ex0r] > Who here said they were done with frostwire ?
[06:59] <RabidSnail> But it loads the files fine standalone.
[07:00] <mario8bit> how do I go about getting the bootloader working with winxp? I have winxp on a separate scsi drive from ubuntu
[07:00] <wastrel> what's gnash
[07:00] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, why are you done with frostwire ?
[07:00] <metamorphis> gnome flash
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > RabidSnail, did you use the flash player plugin that comes with firefox?
[07:01] <iamelite> IS there an easy(ish) way to clone a current ubuntu install to annother (larger) drive.
[07:01] <RabidSnail> [Ex0r] : I'm on  PPC.
[07:01] <ydong> anybody use KDevelop for C++ development?
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, you can run norton's ghost on it
[07:01] <iamelite> Dont have ghost
[07:01] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; its crashing on me alot
[07:01] <iamelite> option 2?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, During bootup? Mines freezes once in a while loading core components, other than that itruns fine.
[07:02] <ydong> anybody use KDevelop for C++ development?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > ydong, not me, sorry
[07:02] <raiinstorm> Does anyone know why my ntfs hard drive disappeared after I tried mounting it read-write
[07:02] <raiinstorm> after using this howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[07:02] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; freezes more often than not for me on core components and has crashed middle of running twice as well
[07:02] <Ackeubu_> hey
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > hmm, xchat doesn't automatically space words? If I go back into the sentence it erases all the text :\
[07:03] <Flippy209> ic56-7394:  you there?
[07:03] <garryF> Writing to ntfs is unsafe. You should mount it ro
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, how did you install it? .deb or from source ?
[07:03] <screwston> is there anyway i can install a preset kernel compilation instead of doing it manually?
[07:03] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; source
[07:03] <raiinstorm> garryF:  I know but whats the point of having a media hard drive if I can't add more media to it?
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, mounting ntfs for read is very unsafe :\ The ntfs application for linux is still in beta and not very stable
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, FrostWire's site has a ubuntu .deb file
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > that's what I used to install it and it only freezes up at core components once in a while for me so I have to xkill it
[07:04] <raiinstorm> but fat32 is still really slow, isn't it?
[07:04] <DarkMageZ> raiinstorm, back-up the data and format the ddrive for a real filesystem
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, no, not at all. NTFS is just more secure
[07:04] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; ill stick with limewire i havent had problems there
[07:04] <RabidSnail> also, gnash has no sound
[07:04] <garryF> raiinstorm You can at least read from it, but linux can really mess it up writing to it, It'ss experimental, and full of bugs.
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, limewire is going commercial :)
[07:04] <Ackeubu_> just when my ubuntu is about to show me the logginscreen it stales. and only shows a black screen with the mouse cross pointer.... How can I find error messages? before I could switch to alt+ F7 F8 F9 to get to an loggin screen. Now i cant use any of them. not evern the F1-F4.... WHat can I do to find the error?
[07:05] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; heh whatever works
[07:05] <raiinstorm> garryF:  so do you reccomend Fat32 then?
[07:05] <DarkMageZ> RabidSnail, where did u get gnash for ubuntu?
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, are you just using it for storage?
[07:05] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: boot into recovery mode
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > If so, just make it ext2/ext3
[07:05] <RabidSnail> DarkMangeZ:I didn't. I compiled from source.
[07:05] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: if that's an option
[07:05] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 im in the recouvery mode..
[07:06] <raiinstorm> Generally yes.  It's my media drive with my music and movies and personal videos and stuff.. oh and images which I work on using Gimp.  That kind of stuff.  Media stuff
[07:06] <FireFly> I am trying to install my driver and the last steps wants me to run  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver. It wont work, and sugestions?
[07:06] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server.
[07:06] <DarkMageZ> RabidSnail, cvs, or that release?
[07:06] <garryF> raiinstorm It seems the only alternative if you wish to share the data between both windows and linux, otherwise, ext2 or ext3 is what I reccommend.
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, are you putting windows on it, or will it interact with any windows installs ?
[07:06] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:06] <raiinstorm> But every once in awhile school requires something WinDoze so I have to switch back over, so I hate to be a Linux only format for my media.
[07:06] <iamelite> Though possibly a stupid question. What if i log in as root. And just Copy paste the whole file system to the new drive. Would that drive boot up?
[07:06] <Flippy209> brb
[07:06] <RabidSnail> DarkMangeZ:release
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> FireFly what card do you have?
[07:06] <FireFly> AIT
[07:06] <FireFly> ati
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> ATI mobility radeon X??? ???
[07:07] <FireFly> ohj
[07:07] <raiinstorm> Ex0r:  I'd prefer not to have to.  But yes sometimes it becomes necessary as school deems it so.
[07:07] <FireFly> I think it is a 9200
[07:07] <iamelite> Anyone?
[07:07] <FireFly> Radeon
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, if the system is strictly linux, make it ext2/ext3. If it's got a windows dual boot, it can only be fat16/32 or ntfs
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, get vmware :)
[07:07] <raiinstorm> This last year I had to have windows for my nursing program.
[07:07] <Ackeubu_> Firefly ooh. i jsut got the card for notebook to work. dont really know bout those. O
[07:07] <metamorphis> go iamelite
[07:08] <iamelite> metaporphis would that work to clone the install?
[07:08] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:08] <The_Guardian> can anyone help me configure nessus?
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, I don't think it would. You would have to also copy the partitions and etc or else the bootloaders would be messed up
[07:08] <metamorphis> it should
[07:08] <raiinstorm> Ex0r:   thanks for the suggestion.   I'll look into it!
[07:09] <wastrel> copying using cp wouldn't work iamelite
[07:09] <garryF> ii-t.com sells a product R-Drive image that you can copy windows and linux ext, and resierfs and other formats to other drives. You can use it to clone the system. I am not sure, but they  might have a demo you can use to clone. Having looked, you can either buy it, or buy ghost.
[07:09] <wastrel> but using dd maybe
[07:09] <iamelite> Hmm
[07:09] <metamorphis> you could do a clean install then use backup discs from the first comp to put on the second
[07:09] <iamelite> well i dont wanna buy ghost
[07:09] <stasislove> hi, is anyone runnig any of steam products like cs s on wine?
[07:09] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: do this from prompt : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:10] <garryF> Well, having been down this road, there is little last I looked in freeware backup software that can do what you want it to do. Precious little being nothing.
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, I think they have a ghost image creator that's free at symantec's site don't they ?
[07:10] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 i have logged in to recovery mode.  But I still have to find the issue. any hint on how to find the errors I get?
[07:10] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:10] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server.
[07:10] <iamelite> Ill look it up
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > I know that Hiren's bootCD has a trial version of norton ghost on it, and can do it
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > if you want to grab one of those.
[07:10] <Disorganized> anyone know a good document for nameserver setup?
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > Disorganized, bind9 ? You could try the bind9 documentation
[07:11] <garryF> awesome Exor
[07:11] <The_Guardian> anyone here who can help me configure nessus?
[07:11] <metamorphis> iamelite can you make a buck up disc for the comp that you want to clone
[07:11] <stasislove> i have really bad performance in counterstrike, like ists running on software rendereing, have anyone been there?
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > garryF, a very helpful cd. Helped recover my PC numerous times.
[07:11] <iamelite> metamorphis i wouldnt know how
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, what kind of graphics card do you have ?
[07:12] <stasislove> geforce 6800gt, and i have installed drivers and everything works fine but i have like 2 fps or something
[07:12] <metamorphis> well if you can back it up then you can do a clean install on the other comp and just use your backup to do a clone
[07:12] <garryF> [Ex0r]  Nice to know, THanks.
[07:13] <iamelite> Ok well ill just use the other hard drive for now. just ot install the other OS on
[07:13] <stasislove> |Ex0r| ^
[07:13] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , ^^
[07:13] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, how are you running counterstrike? Through an emulator? (Wine, VMWare, Crossover Office) ?
[07:13] <iamelite> But last time i reformatted my second drive. (extended 2) And booted ubuntu, it got stuck saying "Waiting for root filesystem"
[07:13] <wastrel> hah
[07:14] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server?
[07:14] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , running through Wine
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, there's your problem.
[07:14] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 i have never done the reconfigure and had it working when doing it.. but maybe i did it now. >)
[07:14] <metamorphis> what is it with ubuntu and the filesystems
[07:15] <iamelite> Im afraid to Reboot mycomputer now.
[07:15] <iamelite> Cause my disk is broken i think
[07:15] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , =) is there any other free alternative ? But for many people it still runs fine, there should be some fix, but i cant find anything on internet yet
[07:15] <garryF> iamelite: I had a similar issue, when I had root and boot on the same partition. It had the root in grub.list pointing to the wrong partition when it should have been the same one hdd,0
[07:15] <iamelite> it stops at loading some drivers... No more processes to run in this instance or something
[07:15] <pvd> Anyone ever thought about creating videos with like ffmpeg and making little howto videos. That would be interesting. Of course limited.
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, check for the linux counter-strike app? IIRC, wasn't one released ?
[07:15] <metamorphis> i cant get ubuntu to even write the filesystem on my laptop but i am going to try the alternative disc
[07:16] <iamelite> garryf so i should reconfigure grub to point to the right drive?
[07:16] <DShepherd> PseudoPlacebo: system-prefs-remote desktop
[07:16] <skavenge> is there a command to reset sound?
[07:16] <linux1> hiya ubuntu keeps reseting back to the loging screen and idea why ppl
[07:17] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , "IIRC wasn't one released ?" sorry lost you there =)
[07:17] <garryF> possibly, you should look at it, hitting e to edit anything, then if it works, you can go in and edit it to make the change permanant.
[07:17] <iamelite> here goes
[07:17] <PseudoPlacebo> Sweeeet.
[07:17] <PseudoPlacebo> DShepherd: Much thanks.
[07:17] <[Ex0r] > StasIsLovE, IIRC means if I remember correctly. I think counter-strike (1.06) is available for linux.
[07:17] <DShepherd> PseudoPlacebo: much welcome
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > NOT the one that comes with steam
[07:18] <Geoffrey2> where would I find a log of the boot process?
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > the one that was used with half-life 1
[07:18] <garryF> dmesg will present you with a log
[07:18] <garryF> if you can run it.
[07:18] <shadowuser355> anyone had problems with their computer rejecting Ubuntu?
[07:18] <garryF> /var/log is where logs are kept.
[07:19] <DShepherd> shadowuser355: hehe... thats kinda funny.. not me
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > rejecting ubuntu ?
[07:19] <StasIsLovE> [Ex0r] , ok, thanks for your time, ill keep looking
[07:19] <raiinstorm> shadowuser355:  nope.  Ubuntu has improved 100 fold in the past year or so.
[07:19] <shadowuser355> a friend of mine tried installing it on his computer, about a day later, it wouldn't boot an OS at all
[07:19] <garryF> Even my etch a sketch laptop don't reject ubuntu. the fps is terrible though.
[07:19] <raiinstorm> I gave it up about a year ago after trying it a bit for Gentoo.. now I'm back..  it's so much easier to upkeep than gentoo.
[07:19] <Rug> I did a server install, Installed xdm.  XDM is not starting at boot & not giving me options (I can launch startx but not choose between the WM's I have installed)
[07:20] <Rug> raiinstorm: yeah same here
[07:20] <shadowuser355> any ideas what could be causing it to reject Ubuntu?
[07:20] <gteppel> Is it possible to simply view a specific file for a package using apt-get?
[07:20] <gteppel> I want to see the default state for a conf file for cups
[07:21] <raiinstorm> ubuntu now easily supports all of my favorite applications.  I'm loving it.  Now I just gotta access my media and get my 5 button mouse working.
[07:21] <raiinstorm> and I'll refuse to ever go back to windoze.. even for school.
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > 5 button mouse!?
[07:21] <Madpilot> !mouse
[07:21] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[07:21] <garryF> Likely has something to do with were grub was put, and the contents of grub.lst
[07:21] <Madpilot> raiinstorm, ^^^ the the bot's posting for your mouse
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > What is a 5 button mouse ?
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > Is that the one with the two finger buttons, than the two on the side and the scrollwheel ?
[07:22] <wastrel> there's buttons on the side
[07:22] <raiinstorm> ExOr:  the far left and far right buttons are the forward and back buttons for your web browser.
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > hmm, that's weird
[07:22] <wastrel> gaming mice have lots of buttons
[07:22] <Flannel> raiinstorm: help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > mine's got 3 and it suits me fine :)
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > I need a new keyboard though
[07:23] <garryF> mine is just a logitech and it has six buttons and a scroll wheel.
[07:23] <raiinstorm> Madpilot:  thanks.   I'll give that a try later this week.
[07:23] <wastrel> my keyboard is something like 15 years old
[07:23] <wastrel> maybe 20
[07:23] <Rug> wastrel: nothing beats a good 10lbs keyboard.
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > wastrel, the white keyboad with grey buttons ?
[07:23] <raiinstorm> Flannel:  I think that might be the one that messed up my xorg.conf on Friday.  I think I got some part of it wrong with my ps2 mouse.  I have to try it again though.
[07:24] <garryF> I saw a keyboard from ion.com or something like that. The keys and mouse buttons are backlit. Would be great for late night computing without disturbing family.
[07:24] <wastrel> [Ex0r] :  yeah, dell 286 i believe it came with
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > yeah, lol
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > weren't those like serial connectors at the time ?
[07:24] <wastrel> no it's the round connector
[07:24] <garryF> Except for the moths kamikazeing on the monitor and keys.
[07:24] <raiinstorm> garryF:  my friend has one of those for her mac.
[07:25] <Rug> Thats an AT keyboard
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > wastrel, the mini-din or large-din ?
[07:25] <wastrel> maybe it was a 386 i don't recall :]
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> the big round connector
[07:25] <raiinstorm> I like my split keyboard personally, good for the wrists.
[07:25] <Rug> Thats an AT keyboard
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > Yeah, Din
[07:25] <garryF> Yeah, I should check it out some day when I feel rich.
[07:25] <raiinstorm> Now if they come up with a split blacklit keyboard, then maybe.
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > I remember when mice plugged into the keyboard and the keyboard held all the drives/components
[07:26] <garryF> Yeah, I like spit ones too. My axe splits them but it kind of messes it up.
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, i've got a black el-wire illuminated one. It's about dead. Alot of the keys keep sticking.
[07:26] <raiinstorm> garryF:  lol  it's better if you can only split the keys, and not the entire board.
[07:26] <Rug> [Ex0r] : hell I remember when there were NO mice
[07:27] <Geoffrey2> [Ex0r] , sounds like a Tandy to me
[07:27] <garryF> Yeah, keyboards hate coffee and soda. Ok, back to topic for me.
[07:28] <DonL> garryF: beer too, I found out
[07:29] <satanasof> buenas
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <Aeo> When dual-booting XP and Linux, is it possible to have files accessible to both systems? What file system would I need to put on a partition?
[07:30] <garryF> DonL I had a friend who would go to a pizza parlor to study for hours every night by a zaxon game machine. It would make more and more noise, so he'd order two mugs of beer, Pour a glass down the pack of the machine to shut it up. The mug would last the machine all night.
[07:30] <wasabi_> linux can read from ntfs
[07:30] <wasabi_> and write well enough
[07:30] <Madpilot> Aeo, fat32 is the only really safe common format
[07:30] <DonL> garryF: lol. That's funny
[07:31] <Aeo> where in the Linux file hierarchy would I find my files then?
[07:31] <Aeo> in mnt?
[07:31] <garryF> DonL :)
[07:31] <skavenge> whereever you mount it
[07:31] <wasabi_> You'll have to mount it manually.
[07:31] <Aeo> how would I do that?
[07:31] <Aeo> or is that during partitioning?
[07:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Aeo about mount
[07:32] <Aeo> thanks
[07:32] <q_a_z_steve> where is the grub.conf file when I'm not in linux? or when I don't have that part. mounted?
[07:33] <garryF> /boot/grub/grub.lst
[07:33] <new_me> so i ran cron and created a file in /etc/crontab   what "startup"
[07:33] <wasabi_> I'm not aware of a grub.conf file.
[07:33] <new_me>  script should i use to make sure it runs everyboot?
[07:33] <DonL> Must admit, I never had much luck with dual booting, so I gave up a long time ago. It didn't take too long to find out I didn't need that other os anyway.
[07:34] <q_a_z_steve> should be /etc/grub.conf according to this How-To dual boot Win2k and grub.
[07:34] <wasabi_> Not in Ubuntu. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:35] <durt> when playing some games i cant alt-tab, so how can i get out of them to do other stuff, other than quitting?
[07:36] <[Ex0r] > alright, time for me to get off to bed
[07:36] <[Ex0r] > I've helped about 4 people tonight.
[07:36] <garryF> Good job [Ex0r] . Gnight.
[07:36] <DonL> That's good exor
[07:37] <raiinstorm> random question..  does anyone in here use Skype?
[07:37] <DonL> raiinstorm: yes, I do
[07:37] <mthode> as do I
[07:37] <DShepherd> durt:   desktop shortcut maybe?
[07:37] <shadeofgrey> hey
[07:37] <q_a_z_steve> so I need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ? How do I change this (I don't want to screw this up) to have a mention of Win2k that is actually hda1 where ubuntu is hda1 5, 7 8
[07:38] <raiinstorm> DonL:  Does that work kind of like direct connect with AIM.  Where a friend using windows could connect to me, plug in his guitar, and I could hear him play his guitar through skype?
[07:38] <raiinstorm> I'm searching for a program that will let me do that because GAIM does not.
[07:38] <DonL> raiinstorm: I've only used it so far for voice contact. I know files can be transferred but are a bit slow
[07:39] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, read the file. It's pretty self explanitory.
[07:39] <CajunTechie> Hello everyone. I have a quick question: I need to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to give a software demo for a web app that I've developed. Where can I go to learn more about how to modify the ISO to automatically start the webserver and open the browser to a specific localhost page when booted?
[07:39] <wasabi_> It's even filled with examples.
[07:39] <garryF> Hda1 would be hda,0 in grubspeak.
[07:39] <DonL> raiinstorm: Don't know about live music or video. Sorry
[07:40] <wasabi_> hd0,0 actually.
[07:40] <raiinstorm> DonL:   hmm  okay I'll just keep trying to convince my stubborn friend to download it and try it with me.  lol
[07:40] <garryF> Oh yeah, Thanks wasabi_
[07:40] <raiinstorm> DonL:  it's okay.  Just thought I'd see if anyone knew.
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> hey does anygbody know if its illegal for me to staart a help website for ubuntu that has ubuntu in the address?
[07:41] <rexykik> !nvidia
[07:41] <DonL> raiinstorm: My brother lives a short distance away, but in another zone so it's long distance. We can chat for as long as we like, using Skype. So that's cool
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <rock-lobster> shadeofgrey, there already www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:41] <q_a_z_steve> k thanks. that's what I thought. Can I make those changes from inside DSL?
[07:41] <raiinstorm> DonL:   Definitely.  I could talk to my friends in Canada that way too if I wanted to then.
[07:41] <wasabi_> DSL?
[07:41] <rock-lobster> shadeofgrey, so im guessin its possible with/without permission
[07:41] <rexykik> Damn Small Linux
[07:41] <DonL> raiinstorm: are you in North america?
[07:41] <raiinstorm> DonL:  yes.  Minnesota
[07:41] <wasabi_> If you can edit the file system, you can change the files.
[07:42] <raiinstorm> does that cost more then?
[07:42] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ Damn Small Linux. I'm in windows using QEMU right now and chatting using nIRC.
[07:42] <rock-lobster> raiinstorm, you can use ekiga
[07:42] <rock-lobster> raiinstorm, it works on h323 and SIP
[07:42] <DonL> Till the end of this year, Skype has made SkypeOut available to us for free. That means you can call from your computer to any regular phone in North America and talk for free.
[07:43] <wasabi_> You'd be better off just booting into linux and changing it.
[07:43] <wasabi_> If you can give qemu raw access to the linux fs, then yeah, you can probably mount it.
[07:43] <q_a_z_steve> btw I don't know how but this thing figured out my wireless (or superimposed it) really well - i.e. Cake walk. And this is a G card!
[07:43] <DonL> rock-lobster: yes. I've looked at ekiga. Looks good. Got to check it out
[07:44] <raiinstorm> rock-lobster:  Oh interesting.  I'm not familiar with that one.  TY for the suggestion.  I'll look into it.
[07:44] <xenex> Anyone know how to fix this? http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6320/guildwars9um.png
[07:44] <wasabi_> qemu doesn't figure out wireless.
[07:44] <garryF> wasabi_ I remember trying wasabi in a chinese restaurant. I thought it was regular horse randish and took a huge dollop on my meat. I felt like I was snoring lava!
[07:44] <wasabi_> garryF, Japanese.
[07:44] <q_a_z_steve> One thing about that is I don't have hda1 plugged in right now if I do boot to ubuntu, but I guess that doesn't matter.
[07:45] <ronnnn> i really need help with my wireless..i looked all on ubuntu forums...and i have a broadcom bcm4318 54g, and i dont know at all how to get it to work..PLEASE HELP!
[07:45] <garryF> Yeah, it fried my meory.
[07:45] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, I don't follow.
[07:45] <garryF> !wifi > ronnnn
[07:45] <ronnnn> huh?
[07:45] <ronnnn> i looked at that before
[07:45] <ronnnn> nothing worked
[07:46] <skavenge> you may need ndiswrapper
[07:46] <ronnnn> probrably, i tried that...i'm really new to linux..and i dont know how to get it started
[07:46] <garryF> Scads of folks have been having issues with wireless in dapper. You are not alone.
[07:46] <DonL> Sorry I can't help, ronnnn. I 'm wired. Still don't trust the wireless stuff. Call me old fashioned
[07:46] <skavenge> took me three  days to get mine working heh
[07:47] <ronnnn> wow
[07:47] <garryF> I call ye lucky