[12:00] <polpak> ossie, use gparted?
[12:00] <lucasvo> ossie: put in a live cd and run gparted
[12:00] <ossie> i want to make a backup so that i dont have to recompile my kernel again etc ?
[12:00] <Benjamin_L> mwe, can't seem to find something unusual, its strange
[12:00] <ossie> ok ill try with live cd
[12:00] <robotgeek> N6REJ: there was a nice article on tldp.org, i quit on LVM
[12:00] <mwe> Benjamin_L: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.1.log doesn't give you anything useful?
[12:00] <ossie> is there a way of making backup though, would be very handy
[12:00] <morphos> c ou le chat franais ?
[12:01] <apokryphos> !fr
[12:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:01] <lampshade> jdier:  No effect  are there any other files I could be missing that I have to edit?
[12:01] <Benjamin_L> mwe, I think X does start up, otherwise it wouldn't work with 2.6.12
[12:01] <Stork> how come my gnump3d server is only accessible on the LAN, not the WAN ?
[12:01] <N6REJ> robotgeek, ok.  its working but its got permissoins set to root and I can't change it :(
[12:01] <sorush20> guys what is the next best think after ubuntu.. interms of ease of installation in live mode or install mode?
[12:01] <Benjamin_L> mwe, but I wonder why gdm doesn't load into GNOME as it does with 2.6.12
[12:01] <mwe> Benjamin_L: what. it used to work but you upgraded the kernel and now it crashes?
[12:01] <shimmmy> sorush20: what do you mean?
[12:01] <apokryphos> sorush20: that's debian-based: Mepis.
[12:01] <shimmmy> sorush20: ya.. just debian base?
[12:02] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: if you're not familiar with LVM Id suggest you use the ubuntu installer to get you going
[12:02] <adam_> Eleaf... during the config of VMWare Player, I get:
[12:02] <mwe> Benjamin_L: tell me what you did. you upgraded the kernel and it broke or what?
[12:02] <adam_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:02] <Benjamin_L> mwe, I dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper and now I have a 2.6.12 kernel without working sound and this problem using 2.6.15-9
[12:02] <apokryphos> non-debian based: distros like SuSE are a lot more polished, in many areas, than ubuntu.
[12:02] <adam_> er.. no sorry
[12:02] <adam_> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Player is suitable for your
[12:02] <adam_> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[12:02] <adam_> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]  y
[12:02] <mwe> Benjamin_L: how did you get 2.6.15-9 ?
[12:02] <apokryphos> Benjamin_L: it's recommended that you do not use dapper, needless to say.
[12:02] <Sepheebear> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html
[12:03] <Benjamin_L> apokryphos, I know, it works flawlessly on my laptop
[12:03] <adam_> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
[12:03] <adam_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:03] <adam_> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[12:03] <mwe> Benjamin_L: oh it's dapper?
[12:03] <mwe> Benjamin_L: it's broken
[12:03] <apokryphos> adam_: don't paste in here, please.
[12:03] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, its installed, one of the partitions I made is /home/music where I wanted to put all my mp3's.  The problem is is that the permissions for that folder are root.root and even when I sudo -i I can't change that :(
[12:03] <Benjamin_L> mwe, my laptop works
[12:03] <apokryphos> or that happens 8)
[12:03] <ossie> adam u may have to download the headers in synaptic, that might help
[12:03] <mwe> Benjamin_L: I can't support dapper, sorry
[12:03] <Benjamin_L> mwe, no problem :)
[12:03] <epp> is there a program to hook my pda to linux?
[12:03] <lllmanulll> epp: gnome-pilot ?
[12:04] <ossie> adam also after downloading the headers, u might not recognise them untill u restart vmware
[12:04] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: that's a mount issue mountpoints by default are owned by root when called from fstab
[12:04] <Benjamin_L> mwe, I don't want apper support. Just thought I miss some package as installing restricted modules brought up usplash which didn't work before that either
[12:04] <Stork> how come my gnump3d server is only accessible on the LAN, not the WAN ?
[12:04] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ok, I want any user even samba shares to be able to access that folder.
[12:04] <mwe> Benjamin_L: however, one piece of advice is to check ~/.xsession-errors and the other log files in /var/log as well
[12:04] <epp> does that support ppc?
[12:05] <MarcN> epp: for windows based pdas there is multisync.  for palm, there are a bunch, evolution's gnome-pilot, jpilot, etc
[12:05] <mebaran151> is it just me, or does Evolution produce buggy vcf's?
[12:05] <mebaran151> and if so, how can I fix them
[12:05] <mebaran151> it messes up synce
[12:05] <epp> MarcN, thank you so much, i have been looking for that answer forver.
[12:05] <mebaran151> by filling in all the empty fields
[12:05] <mebaran151> with ;'s?
[12:06] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, wait, I just realized something, I made it a fat32 partitoin instead of ext3 :(  I bet thats what I did wrong :(
[12:07] <Benjamin_L> mwe, this is how it looks: http://www.lebsanft.org/.xsession-errors
[12:07] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, what can I use to "administrate" that partition?
[12:07] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: try man mount and go to the section "Mount options for fat"
[12:07] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, tyvm.
[12:08] <sunsun> hey how do i restart alsa?
[12:08] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: use those options in /etc/fstab
[12:08] <shawarma> sunsun: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:09] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, which options? I'm still looking
[12:09] <Kyral> Seveas: ping
[12:09] <shawarma> N6REJ: If you were a bit more specific as to what you actually want to do, it'd be easier to answer your question.
[12:10] <Seveas> Kyral, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[12:10] <_dodo_> hallo! I need help, i've downloaded a new graphics card driver and i'll have to edit xorg.conf, but i dont know howto
[12:10] <Kyral> hahah
[12:10] <sunsun> /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:10] <Kyral> Seveas: Do you mind if I add some notes about using FreeNX to the Wikipage?
[12:10] <N6REJ> shawarma, AHA I think I see it!  I need to use the UID, GID options.
[12:10] <Seveas> of course not, it's a wiki :)
[12:10] <mwe> Benjamin_L: loads of warnings about failed ipp requests. probably a misconfigure printer. not fatal. then some errors about terminal emulators. none of those should prevent X from starting afaik.
[12:10] <N6REJ> shawarma, I was trying to change the ownership of a fat32 partition.  I originally thought it was a LVM problem but I see the issue now.
[12:10] <Kyral> Seveas: I tend to like letting the original author know ;P
[12:11] <regeya_> annoyance: in Evolution (and only in Evolution) almost all the button icons show up with this document-with-x-in-middle icon.  any ideas?  I looked in .gtkrc-2.0 (which did exist until just now, had been written by kde, oddly enough) and no icon theme specified there.
[12:11] <N6REJ> THANKS
[12:11] <Seveas> I don't :)
[12:11] <N6REJ> evening Seveas
[12:11] <Benjamin_L> mwe, I think X does start up as after the flickering I get a dark but different from totally black screen
[12:11] <redearth> hey Seveas!  Is your lack of patience with a newbie typical in the Linux community?  I join an IRC channel for the first time in my life for some help, paste a few lines of text and without warning, you ban me!
[12:11] <Stork> what the hell
[12:11] <Stork> this is confusing as hell
[12:11] <regeya_> *grumble* *mutter* *mutter* *grumble*
[12:11] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: one solution would be to create a user "music" in the group "music", mount the partition with the options "uid=$(id -u music),gid=$(id -g music)"
[12:11] <ossie> redearth, whats wrong ?
[12:11] <Seveas> redearth, we have a zero tolerance policy on pasters and ban avoiders in here
[12:11] <Sepheebear> then add the users that you want to have access to that share to the "music" group
[12:12] <redearth> well, how am I supposed to know that as a newbie?
[12:12] <regeya_> redearth, did you flood the channel?
[12:12] <mwe> Benjamin_L: you don't even get to the login screen before the flickering?
[12:12] <Seveas> read the topic
[12:12] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, perfect!
[12:12] <regeya_> oh heh
[12:12] <_dodo_> Dows somone in here know lots about how to change display driver using xorg.conf
[12:12] <Seveas> it's so simple
[12:12] <redearth> ??
[12:12] <regeya_> barely adequate eh redearth?
[12:12] <rev> How do I fix this (make-kpkg) -> dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-source-2.6.15-rc7-ubuntu1 not in control info
[12:12] <Benjamin_L> mwe, flickering is normal just before the login screen but it doesn't get that far
[12:13] <ossie> _dodo_, have u tried to vi the xorg.conf file and make sure that the display card is pointing to the right pci device, this fixed mine when i installed my grap[hics card
[12:13] <N6REJ> i'm off to go give that a try... thanks everyone
[12:13] <redearth> regeya_  i pasted 6 lines or so.  So, where are the rules for irc usage then?
[12:13] <Seveas> redearth, REEAD THE TOPIC
[12:13] <Sepheebear> _dodo_: check the "Device" section in xorg.conf
[12:13] <mwe> Benjamin_L: isn't there a /var/log/gdm.log file? if so, check it out if you didn't already
[12:13] <ossie> also there is a command one of these guys should know that reconfigures your X, dpakg something
[12:13] <sambagirl> there is no ignorance of the law here
[12:13] <redearth> what topic?  where?  how?  I'M A NEWBIE!!!
[12:13] <Seveas> sigh
[12:13] <Seveas> channel topic
[12:13] <Seveas> which you SEE WHEN JOINING
[12:14] <regeya_>  /topic
[12:14] <shawarma> redearth: Do you use xchat?
[12:14] <mwe> rofl
[12:14] <redearth> yes
[12:14] <shawarma> redearth: Check the tab that has opened..
[12:14] <_dodo_> ossie: ive installed the driver via_drv_0 is that what im supposed to write in xorg.conf
[12:14] <Benjamin_L> mwe, no gdm.log
[12:14] <regeya_> redearth, there's this bar at the top of xchat with the topic.  it's right below the menu bar.  *sigh*
[12:14] <sambagirl> for ubuntu to be a success you must have patience with the end users since end the end they will determine the success of ubuntu
[12:14] <Benjamin_L> mwe, but there is a gdm folder with some logs
[12:15] <ossie> if u do , lspci it will list pce devices, with a number like 00:00:0 , make sure the lspci one is the same in xorg.conf
[12:15] <shawarma> redearth: See it?
[12:15] <shawarma> redearth: The other tab, that is..
[12:15] <regeya_> sambagirl, my experience has shown that end users don't want to learn.
[12:15] <_dodo_> ossie: kay
[12:15] <mwe> Benjamin_L: yeah. look there. kdm, which I use, has just a file, no subdir
[12:15] <shawarma> redearth: In standard xchat i believe it's a the bottom of the window.
[12:15] <Seveas> sambagirl, end users with such attitude don't deserv any patienc since it won't help at all
[12:15] <sambagirl> ok
[12:15] <kbrooks> I need help
[12:15] <ossie> _dodo_, do lspci find number of graphics card, make sure it is the same in xorg.conf
[12:16] <regeya_> at least as a USian my experience has been that USian users can't be bothered to read instructions before the rush in, and if that doesn't work, well hell, it's not worth it then
[12:16] <Seveas> kbrooks, with what?
[12:16] <regeya_> or they'll just bug the hell out of the closest person who looks like they know what they're doing.
[12:16] <kbrooks> well
[12:16] <ltibor65> Seveas, are you every day here?
[12:16] <Benjamin_L> mwe, http://lebsanft.org/gdm.log there are some errors
[12:16] <Seveas> ltibor65, sort of
[12:16] <kbrooks> I want to clean my comp out
[12:16] <Seveas> kbrooks, debfoster :)
[12:16] <kbrooks> of old software
[12:16] <MarcN>  _dodo_; you should be able to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or whichever xserver you are using, maybe xfree86) and let the configuration tool write a new one for you.
[12:16] <kbrooks> i never use
[12:16] <regeya_> I get nothing done at work some days because people won't #$%!ing read.
[12:17] <Seveas> regeya_, relax, have a cookie :)
[12:17] <_dodo_> MarcN: thanx
[12:17] <kbrooks> Seveas, "old software"
[12:17] <regeya_> Seveas, heh
[12:17] <regeya_> Seveas, after the work week's done for me this week, it's a wonder all my coworkers are *alive*.
[12:17] <Seveas> regeya_, come to #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[12:17] <MarcN> kbrooks: deborphan is part of the way, then fireup synaptic or aptitude and see what you want to remove.
[12:17] <regeya_> heh sorry Seveas
[12:18] <mwe> Benjamin_L: ok. try disabling the modules it complains about in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (back it up first). then see if X starts. then figure out how to get them working if it starts
[12:18] <Benjamin_L> mwe, almost the same errors are there on 2.6.12 too so I guess its something else
[12:18] <sunsun> !alsa-source
[12:18] <mwe> Benjamin_L: the modules are GLcore and theatre_detect
[12:19] <ltibor65> Seveas, are yuo here the Boss?
[12:19] <Seveas> ltibor65, no the boss is sabdfl
[12:19] <bor_> bonsoir  tous
[12:19] <bor_> je me lance dans ubuntu
[12:19] <regeya_> !english
[12:19] <ubotu> regeya_: Not a clue
[12:19] <kbrooks> Seveas,
[12:19] <regeya_> oh come on
[12:19] <werty> can anyone help me with my tablet
[12:19] <kbrooks> i have a question
[12:19] <bor_> sorry
[12:19] <kbrooks> another one
[12:19] <Seveas> bor, on parle anglais ici, #ubuntu-fr est francophone
[12:19] <Benjamin_L> mwe, I'll try tomorrow. I'm too tired to change something now ;) thanks for your help
[12:20] <kbrooks> how can I do sysem backups?
[12:20] <BraveFencerKirby> Hey, can someone help me?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older comp and my connection cut out while I was downloading the ISO.  I'm not sure if I got it all or not and I don't understand the verifyISOhowto page on the wiki.
[12:20] <bor_> sorry for the mistake
[12:20] <Seveas> kbrooks, oh no :)
[12:20] <Seveas> kbrooks, tar, gzip, rsync :)
[12:20] <ltibor65> Seveas, what is sabdfl?
[12:20] <Seveas> ltibor65, He's the boss :)
[12:20] <Seveas> ltibor65, wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[12:20] <ossie> !tell ossie nvidia
[12:20] <kbrooks> ltibor65, self appointed benevolent dictator for life
[12:20] <kbrooks> like Guido van Rossum
[12:20] <ossie> !tell me nvidia
[12:21] <ossie> !tell nvidia
[12:21] <Seveas> ossie, /msg ubotu nvidia
[12:21] <ossie> cheers
[12:21] <kbrooks> is deborphan curses based?
[12:22] <cafuego> kbrooks: No.
[12:22] <cafuego> kbrooks: it'
[12:22] <cafuego> s /dev/stdout based
[12:22] <kbrooks> cafuego, Why does it install dialog
[12:22] <kbrooks> i'd like to know?
[12:22] <Seveas> dialog does not use curses per se
[12:22] <cafuego> kbrooks: Coz it depends on it.
[12:22] <ruddy> hallo, iedereen ;-)
[12:22] <kbrooks> cafuego, what for?
[12:22] <cafuego> kbrooks: dialogs?
[12:23] <Seveas> ruddy, engels aub, nederlands kan in #ubuntu-nl
[12:23] <BxL> how so I add multiverse repos?
[12:23] <ITSa341> can anyone recommend a replacement for speedswitch ( allows you to control cpu speed through powernow )
[12:23] <cafuego> kbrooks: ... and dialog uses curses as last-resort fall-back, so demands it.
[12:23] <Seveas> !tell BxL about repos
[12:23] <BxL> woo
[12:23] <cafuego> !nl
[12:23] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[12:23] <ltibor65> Seveas, are you from Holland?
[12:23] <Seveas> ITSa341, powernowd
[12:23] <MarcN> kbrooks: command line that dumps a list of unused packages.
[12:23] <kbrooks> what the?
[12:23] <Seveas> ltibor65, yes
[12:23] <Sepheebear> hey Seveas, how about a line like "Ubuntu Help: /msg ubotu <topic>" in the topic line like #debian has?
[12:23] <cafuego> !nl =~ s/klaar./klaar. We doen niet aan thee./
[12:23] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[12:24] <ITSa341> Seveas  powernowd is automatic, no manual control. right?
[12:24] <Seveas> !nl =~ s/klaar. We doen niet aan thee./klaar./
[12:24] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[12:24] <kbrooks> MarcN, the list has packages I use - why?
[12:24] <sunsun> crimsun, this time i cannot get sound out of my ubuntu install...
[12:24] <Seveas> rofl :)
[12:24] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, it didn't work :(  please look at this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6394
[12:24] <ltibor65> Seveas, and how old are you?
[12:24] <kbrooks> will removing ruby-gnome2 remove deps?
[12:25] <Seveas> ltibor65, #ubuntu-offtopic please for such questions
[12:25] <MarcN> kbrooks: deborphan gives a list of typically library packages that aren't used by installed packages.  You may want to consider removing them.  If apt says it is going to remove a package you use, then decline.
[12:25] <kbrooks> MarcN, where do I pass the list to?
[12:25] <BraveFencerKirby> Hey, can someone help me?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older comp and my connection cut out while I was downloading the ISO.  I'm not sure if I got it all or not and I don't understand the verifyISOhowto page on the wiki.
[12:25] <ITSa341> Seveas  powernowd is automatic, no manual control. right?
[12:26] <MarcN> kbrooks: apt-get remove package1 package2 ...
[12:26] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: sorry i didnt explain, replace the uid and gid with the actual numbers. the 'id' command was what you would use to derive those numbers
[12:26] <Seveas> ITSa341, correct
[12:26] <kbrooks> MarcN, no
[12:26] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, oh, ok... ty.
[12:26] <Sepheebear> but fstab's not a shell script
[12:26] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, how big is the iso you have?
[12:26] <kbrooks> MarcN, i dont want to type things manually
[12:26] <MarcN> kbrooks: tough
[12:26] <ITSa341> Seveas   anything you can recommend with manual control so I can force a low speed to save batteries.
[12:26] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, and which one is it?
[12:26] <BraveFencerKirby> Which what?
[12:27] <Seveas> ITSa341, not off the top of my head
[12:27] <_dodo_> ossie: so I can use lspci to find out what BUS id i should use?
[12:27] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, which is (filename)
[12:27] <kbrooks> i'll hack something up, MarcN
[12:27] <Seveas> which iso*
[12:27] <ITSa341> ok  thanks anyway
[12:27] <kbrooks> in python
[12:27] <mark_> Help, I'm currently using ndiswrapper, whenever I try to setup static IP as <IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS> as default gateway, I cannot access any pages yet I can if its dynamic.....
[12:27] <BraveFencerKirby> Filename of the ISO? ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[12:27] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, WONDERFUL!!! and I learned something too.  tyvm!
[12:27] <_dodo_> ossie: so I can use lspci to find out what BUS id i should use?
[12:27] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: yw
[12:27] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, and the size of the iso?
[12:28] <BraveFencerKirby> 617 MB
[12:28] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, now the real test will be if cantus can rename the files becaue they have windows spacing and punctiation in them and so I need to use cantus to fix all that.
[12:28] <Sepheebear> try easytag if cantus cant do it for you
[12:28] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ok.
[12:29] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, cantus couldn't do it last time because it wasn't running as root
[12:29] <Sepheebear> easytag's a little unintuitive at first but you get the hang of it after some trial and error
[12:29] <rev> noone knows how to fix this error when compiling a kernel? ... dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-source-2.6.15-rc7-ubuntu1 not in control info ...comeon :)
[12:29] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, 617MB sounds good, what don't you understand about that wikipage?
[12:29] <alpha255> sooo, I have a hp laptop w/winxp, repartitioned the drive for a breezy 5.10 and install worked great
[12:30] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: sudo chmod -R g+rw /home/music
[12:30] <alpha255> quickplay doesn't work though
[12:30] <ComradeVladimir> alpha255 me too
[12:30] <alpha255> i installed grub in the mbr
[12:30] <sunsun> hello
[12:30] <alpha255> i edited the /boot/grub/menu or whatever that file is to remove the other
[12:30] <alpha255> for quickplay
[12:31] <BraveFencerKirby> It says to download two files, which I did, and then something about running GnuPG.  No idea what GnuPG is and neither of those files are executable.
[12:31] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, i read that it should work
[12:31] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ok, I'll do that ... *phone*
[12:31] <lampshade> I am messing around with menus in Fluxbox because mine won't work  Basically, nothing on the menus will come up when viewing the desktop over VNC.  The clock, and then menus themselves show up, but upon clicking an item like Bash, nothing happens.  Looking at the logfile, it complains that it can't find xterm and can't set any of the values session.this and session.that values.  Any ideas?
[12:31] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, on a couple of web pages
[12:31] <MarcN> kbrooks: this is what you want, no python needed:    apt-get remove $(deborphan)      you decide if you want to remove the listed packages or not.
[12:31] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, are you running windows right now?
[12:31] <BraveFencerKirby> Yeah.
[12:31] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, do you think i need to use a windows bootloader?
[12:31] <alpha255> instead of grub?
[12:32] <ComradeVladimir> alpha255 ive had it on a dell desktop for a long time and im usin it now
[12:32] <gerald-volt> anyone know of a 3d cad software for linux?
[12:32] <Seveas> BraveFencerKirby, download http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe and put it in c:\winnt\system32 (if you use XP/2000)
[12:32] <ComradeVladimir> alpha255 u use grub
[12:32] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, quickplay
[12:32] <alpha255> ?
[12:32] <lucasvo> gerald-volt: brl-cad
[12:32] <alpha255> yep grub in the mbr
[12:32] <gerald-volt> thanks
[12:33] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, reinstalled quickplay from cd too
[12:33] <ComradeVladimir> ok
[12:33] <alpha255> ComradeVladimir, wonder if partitions are not being seen
[12:33] <alpha255> let me run fdisk --list
[12:33] <ComradeVladimir> alpha255 whatdo you mean
[12:34] <alpha255> 500mb thing
[12:34] <kbrooks> MarcN, ty
[12:34] <alpha255> for quickplay
[12:34] <alpha255> can't see past that on the drive
[12:34] <ComradeVladimir> k
[12:34] <MarcN> kbrooks: shell scripting can handle more of your admin'ing needs.
[12:34] <gerald-volt> hhmmm, i was thinking of something that's similar to autodesk inventor kinda thing
[12:34] <kbrooks> MarcN, true. python is nice though
[12:35] <mwe> python rocks!
[12:35] <alpha255> hda1 is nfts -winxp
[12:36] <mebaran151> where could I find some evolution help
[12:36] <alpha255> hda2 is linux plaintext quickplay
[12:36] <mebaran151> I think the vcf's it generates are buggy
[12:36] <mwe> mebaran151: maybe in here if you're more specific
[12:36] <alpha255> mebaran151, send me an email...
[12:36] <mebaran151> ok
[12:36] <alpha255> witht he vcf
[12:36] <mebaran151> ok
[12:36] <mebaran151> I'm not sure
[12:36] <mebaran151> but it fills some files with semi colons
[12:36] <BraveFencerKirby> Seveas: I've got no folder called winnt on my c drive
[12:36] <mebaran151> but it doesn't always do it
[12:36] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, that didn't work.  even after I added root and troy to the music group it won't change the permissions.
[12:37] <mebaran151> only on certain contacts
[12:37] <mebaran151> which is odd
[12:37] <mebaran151> but if they have a certain name, or certain birthday
[12:37] <mebaran151> I get semicolons ending every field
[12:37] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: what's the permissions? ls -l file.ogg
[12:37] <MarcN> mebaran151: file a bug report with bugzilla.gnome.org under evolution.  check to see if there is an evolution irc channel, check evolution website to see if there is a forum...
[12:38] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, the /home/music folder has 755 permissions
[12:38] <Sepheebear> how about the files?
[12:39] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, let me look.
[12:39] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, same.
[12:40] <mebaran151> MarcN, I've tried
[12:40] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, should I remove the "quiet" statement so we can see the 'error'?
[12:40] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: sure let's see
[12:40] <N6REJ> k
[12:41] <mebaran151> but Novell has Evolution under lock and key, or at least not sure
[12:41] <mebaran151> alpha255, your request failed
[12:41] <mebaran151> pm me I suppose
[12:41] <Sepheebear> Evo is open source AFAIK otherwise it wouldnt be in ubuntu main
[12:42] <mase> i need help, need latest version of libstdc++6, how do i get it ??
[12:42] <mebaran151> Sepheebear, yeah
[12:42] <mebaran151> but resources aren't made super open
[12:42] <mebaran151> it's open source I think the same way Suse was
[12:42] <Sepheebear> maybe there just arent any
[12:42] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, no errors, but still 755
[12:42] <Sepheebear> devs almost always hate writing documentation
[12:43] <leagris> hello
[12:43] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, is the LVM system stopping us somehow?
[12:43] <alpha255> mebaran151<EMAIL_ADDRESS>send email there
[12:44] <leagris> is there someone that configured openldap on ubuntu breezy here ?
[12:44] <mebaran151> alpha255, just a troublesome vcard?
[12:44] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: so all files look like "-rw-rw-r--  1 music music 1.3k 2005-12-25 04:10 file.ogg"?
[12:44] <alpha255> k
[12:44] <alpha255> i could test it
[12:44] <alpha255> use evolution here
[12:44] <leagris> I am reading instruction here http://samba.idealx.org/smbldap-howto.en.html#htoc14 but I've seen default ubuntu slapd.conf setup differently
[12:45] <Sepheebear> LVM AFAIK doesnt have anything to do with permissions
[12:45] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, no, thats 664 :D  -rwxr-xr-x  1 music music 3298202 2005-12-30 00:24 10 I Just Wanna Be Mad.mp3
[12:45] <Malachi> How can I sinc a file in Linux?
[12:45] <leagris> I'd like to know if there is a ubuntu standard on setting up OpenLDAP with Ubuntu
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Malachi,  you mean 'sync' ?
[12:46] <leagris> Or if I can go the proposed way in this documentation without breaking future Ubuntu updates ?
[12:46] <Malachi> By sinc, I mean edit a file in one place, and have another file in a seperate location update....
[12:46] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: that's the problem here " -rwxr-xr-x  1 music music" should be " -rw-rw-r--  1 music music"
[12:46] <Sepheebear> dont need to set the -x bit
[12:46] <Malachi> Dr_Willis: I was getting there =) Hope it makes since.
[12:46] <Dreamglider> i have problems with grub, i tride to install damnsmalllinux and it installed grub on hda2, i deleted that partion but grub remains there, i had grub allready on hdb1 wich is the ubuntu disk. how can i have the system boot the grub on hdb1 ?
[12:46] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ok, let me try that.
[12:47] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: in other words that file's not group writable
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Malachi,  explaining what/why are you trying to do excactly - may get you some answers from these people.
[12:47] <N6REJ> right.
[12:47] <cyphase> my cousin in the UK just told me her friend got a dell laptop with firefox and *openoffice*
[12:47] <cyphase> firefox is oublic knowledge now
[12:47] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: "sudo chmod -R g=rw /home/music"
[12:47] <cyphase> but has anyone said anything about dell shipping OO.org?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Dreamglider,  i can set in my bios which hd to boot first.
[12:48] <Malachi> Dr_Willis: Mhmm...
[12:48] <Dreamglider> Dr_Willis, i cant
[12:48] <N6REJ> k
[12:48] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: "sudo chmod -R 664 /home/music"
[12:48] <gerald-volt> anyone know what package I need to install for this error?
[12:48] <gerald-volt> ./bin/racer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Dreamglider,  you could edit the grub configs for the disrto that is booting.. to boot the other disrto.
[12:49] <kuraia> hi all
[12:49] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, would you believe chmod 664 changed it to 644?
[12:49] <N6REJ> something weird is going on.
[12:49] <kuraia> i can't execute sudo like a normal user
[12:49] <kuraia> how can i do it?
[12:49] <Malachi> Here's what I'm trying to do: I have a OpenOffice Calc file in one location. In another shared location, I have the same file. When I edit the file, I want the shared file to be updated.
[12:49] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: add umask=664,dmask=664 to your fstab as well
[12:49] <hydroksyde> N6REJ, umask?
[12:49] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ok.
[12:50] <Dreamglider> Dr_Willis, let me get back i'll check
[12:50] <kuraia> how can i execute sudo like a normal user in ubuntu?
[12:51] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: that way newly created files will have the correct permissions
[12:51] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, OMG!!  you won't believe what that did!!  d--x--x-wx  195 music music 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 music
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> kuraia,  'like a normal user' is sort of vague.. rephrase the question i think would help.
[12:52] <gerald-volt> how do I find a file containing a certain word
[12:52] <kuraia> Dr_Willis , how can i give permissions to one user to execute sudo?
[12:52] <acad> can i upgrade my kernel in ubuntu or will that mess up everything if the new one doesn't work?  If i understand it right- it'll just add the option to boot a different kernel  to the boot menu.
[12:52] <RedRose> how do i change the group ownership of a file?
[12:52] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, and then sudo chmod 664 -R /home/music changed everything to   d---------  195 music music 16384 1969-12-31 18:00 music
[12:52] <kuraia> Dr_Acemaster, sorry i'm spanish speaker but nobody helps me in ubuntu-es
[12:53] <acad> RedRose chown username file
[12:53] <RedRose> acad:that's the user, but not the group
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> kuraia,  i seem to recall in the GNOME 'user controll panel tool' that there was a tab/checkbox to do that.. not sure how you do it the old fashoned way
[12:53] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: that's nuts! do "sudo chmod -R 644 /home/music/*"
[12:53] <acad> RedRose- aww my bad
[12:53] <RedRose> anyone, how do i change the group that owns a file?
[12:54] <Zambba> RedRose: chown user:group file
[12:54] <RedRose> ty
[12:54] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, says nu such directory
[12:54] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, its stoned!!!
[12:55] <acad> RedRose- now  I think about it your right.  never did that before.  i know i edited a file once to do it.  not the easier way to do it
[12:55] <Zambba> Lol, left after got answer to his/her question :D
[12:55] <acad> :)
[12:55] <acad> why stay?  :)
[12:55] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, I remember vaguely that umask is supposed to be inverted from what you really want?
[12:56] <BxL> !easysource
[12:56] <ubotu> from memory, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:56] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, umask where?
[12:56] <hydroksyde> erm
[12:56] <hydroksyde> somewhere
[12:57] <hydroksyde> on the moon?
[12:57] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, lol
[12:57] <hydroksyde> I don't know the details of your problem
[12:57] <globe_> help with wireless dns problems.  ping, host, telnet work fine but firefox, gaim, xchat dont
[12:57] <hydroksyde> so I can't help, sorry
[12:57] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, I have an LVM partition that is bewitched!
[12:57] <hydroksyde> N6REJ, if it's behaving illogically for no good reason, your hardware might be flaky
[12:58] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, nope, brand new stuff, has always worked fine.  This has something to do with LVM
[12:58] <hydroksyde> N6REJ, but before you come to that conclusion, check some other things
[12:58] <hydroksyde> ok
[12:58] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[12:58] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: oh yeah that's true oops!
[12:58] <hydroksyde> I don't know LVM
[12:58] <hydroksyde> umask is subtracted from masl
[12:58] <hydroksyde> mask
[12:59] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, that makes a million of us.
[12:59] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: that's what happens when you work too fast
[12:59] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, well we want a umask of 664
[12:59] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, change that.  I want EVERYONE in the music group to be able to do read/write to anything int he music folder
[01:00] <versaily> arrg
[01:00] <versaily> there we go...
[01:00] <ricky_Sal> hi guys , I have a problem trying to add modules to the kernel , when I type make menuconfig it says that the gcc-version.sh scritps cant find gcc 3.4
[01:00] <PeteyPablo> WOW the riaa suck
[01:00] <versaily> can someone plz help me get java on a g4 powerpc
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> PeteyPablo,  Yes  they do.
[01:00] <hydroksyde> N6REJ, you want a umask of 113 I think... read=4, write=2, execute=1
[01:00] <PeteyPablo> Dr_Willis: seen the new article? http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051230-5871.html
[01:01] <PeteyPablo> they forced some kid into commiting perjury
[01:01] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, k, I'll try that.
[01:01] <N6REJ> brb
[01:01] <versaily> rickey_sal try sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:01] <Seveas> !tell versaily about java
[01:01] <hydroksyde> N6REJ, but remember, for directories, execute means the ability to enter them
[01:01] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, ok, well I need that too :D
[01:01] <hydroksyde> 002 then
[01:01] <alpha255> N6REJ,  u could add all your users on the system to be part of the group that owns the music folder
[01:01] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, ok.
[01:01] <N6REJ> alpha255, yeah, thats what we're doing.
[01:02] <alpha255> ahh
[01:02] <alpha255> sorry missed that
[01:02] <ricky_Sal> versaily , I cant connect to internet , that its i have to add a usb module to make my modem works
[01:02] <globe_> help with wireless dns problems.  ping, host, telnet work fine but firefox, gaim, xchat dont.  How do I tell xwin apps to look at the right dns
[01:02] <alpha255> N6REJ, you could also suid on the folder too
[01:02] <N6REJ> BINGO!
[01:02] <versaily> oh...
[01:02] <alpha255> N6REJ, that way all the files there take on that group id
[01:02] <N6REJ> I think we have lift off!
[01:03] <alpha255> nice
[01:03] <N6REJ> let me check.
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> PeteyPablo,  The solution is simple.. a total boycott of all music. :P well NPR is ok...
[01:03] <Malachi> In Windows, you can make batch files to run multiple commands. How do you do that in Linux (and what are the files called)?
[01:03] <acad> i've boycotted all music since i was born
[01:03] <PeteyPablo> Dr_Willis: i wont boycott, i'll do worse ill keep downloading it illegally till the cows come home
[01:04] <PeteyPablo> Dr_Willis: who can afford 20.00 for a cd? thats extortion
[01:04] <acad> :) don't own a single audio CD- the bad part is that they still get royalty from movies that i watch
[01:04] <gerald-volt> how do I display the links using ln I made
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> PeteyPablo,  So you are making excuses.. :P  i still state 'The solution is simple.. a total boycott of all music.'
[01:04] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, we did it!
[01:04] <N6REJ> hydroksyde, TY!
[01:04] <acad> i have a better solution
[01:04] <acad> steal the music
[01:04] <globe_> Malachi: I think you are looking for shell scripts.  They are just like dos batch files (text file with commands on seperate lines)
[01:04] <PeteyPablo> Dr_Willis: i'm not making excuses, i came right out and said i'd download it illegaly is that an excuse?
[01:05] <acad> and don't listen to it
[01:05] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> acad,  now THATS amuseing.. makes you wonder if thats illeagle. :P
[01:05] <mwe> gerald-volt: ls -l will show what a symlink points to
[01:05] <Malachi> globe_: That's it!
[01:05] <globe_> Malachi: to execute use ./<scriptName> from a term
[01:05] <N6REJ> ok, next part.... I have 2 files... "thumbs.db" and "desktop.ini" in each folder that I don't want.   if I rm -rf /home/music/*.ini will that do it?
[01:05] <Malachi> globe_: So basically I create a text file and then do ./<script>?
[01:05] <acad> Dr_Willis :) don't know but it'll make the industry think the music theft is increasing when it's not.
[01:06] <Malachi> globe_: Ah, Thanks!
[01:06] <globe_> malachi: as far as I can remember.
[01:06] <Malachi> Gotta go...
[01:06] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:06] <D1> does anyone here use flash for firefox and www.myspace.com?
[01:06] <D1> I can't get it to work.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> just imagine what would happen if there was a single week where 'everyone' aggred to not buy any new cd's :P or listen to the music on the radio
[01:06] <diemex> hey how do i install skype on ubuntu?
[01:06] <N6REJ> alpha255, your says set the sticky bit?
[01:07] <diemex> pls answer me!
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> dieman,  its covered in the wiki/forums.
[01:07] <globe_> diemex: I know that there is information on this in the ubuntu wiki
[01:07] <N6REJ> ubotu tell dieman about !skype
[01:07] <diemex> thanks
[01:07] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:07] <mase> ubotu tell me about !LIBSTDC++6
[01:08] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: glad you got it working, i had a umask brainfart for a sec there
[01:08] <N6REJ> heheh kicked myself off
[01:08] <tripleclick> I'm trying to install some wireless drivers. I've followed the Ndiswrapper instructions and ndiswrapper -l says bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present, but I don't see a wireless card in Ubuntu's Network settings.  for lo, eth0, and sit0
[01:10] <acad> ossie thats for dvd-  for divx download all-codecs from mplayer
[01:10] <N6REJ> tripleclick, did you reboot?
[01:10] <globe_> tripleclick: got me....you probably have to point ubuntu at the device
[01:10] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:10] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Instructions didn't say to reboot. Are you sure I should?
[01:10] <N6REJ> globe no!  bcmw drivers are annonying but easy once you know them.
[01:10] <N6REJ> tripleclick, yep!
[01:10] <N6REJ> tripleclick,  what have you done so far
[01:11] <tripleclick> N6REJ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[01:11] <N6REJ> <--- owns 4 broadcom cards
[01:11] <diemex> globe : where it says cause i cna't find it
[01:11] <philalou121> channel ubuntu french?
[01:11] <mwe> why would he need to reboot?
[01:11] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:11] <acad> ossie wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb;dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb  <--- that should do it
[01:12] <globe_> diemex: I dont remember, sorry.  I would look it up but my ff is dead
[01:12] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Up to "sudo ndiswrapper -m". Should I do anything before reboot?
[01:12] <N6REJ> tripleclick, yeah, thats a good one.  theres about 6 of them in ubuntu one of which I wrote.  if you run iwconfig what do you see?
[01:12] <j-linux> I am using Ubuntu Breezy.  I have JRE on my machine becuase I have Eclipse and it works.  But Firefox doesn't recognize that I have JRE and web sites that require Java aren't working.  Is this normal?  How do I enable it?
[01:12] <tripleclick> N6REJ: lo, eth0, and sit0 each with "no wireless extensions."
[01:12] <Sepheebear> N6REJ: "find /home/music -name Thumbs.db | xargs rm -rf"
[01:12] <acad> ossie download http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2 and extract it to /usr/lib/win32
[01:13] <N6REJ> tripleclick, eth0?  ok... thats unusual but fine.
[01:13] <diemex> globe_ : thanks anyway
[01:13] <gerald-volt> how do I run a .run file?
[01:13] <N6REJ> tripleclick, run ndiswrapper -m now
[01:13] <tripleclick> N6REJ: eth0 is what I'm using right now
[01:13] <N6REJ> oh, wait.
[01:13] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Already did
[01:13] <nter> jlinux you need to add a symbolic link to the mozilla folder
[01:13] <ossie> cheers acad
[01:13] <N6REJ> ok.
[01:13] <N6REJ> reboot.
[01:13] <tripleclick> OK
[01:13] <acad> ossie :)
[01:13] <j-linux> nter: how do I do that?
[01:14] <N6REJ> Sepheebear, ty
[01:14] <nter> on the firefox site where they explain what you have to do
[01:14] <j-linux> nter: ok thanks.
[01:14] <danny> hey does any one no how i can ftp and add files on it etc.
[01:14] <nter> if you do that it should work
[01:15] <Sepheebear> danny: you want to setup an ftp server?
[01:15] <jono> hi all
[01:15] <jono> can I install 2.6.15 on breezy from dapper?
[01:15] <danny> right i have access to a ftp server
[01:15] <N6REJ> tripleclick ok now when you run iwconfig what do you see?
[01:16] <nter> go here jlinux http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java
[01:16] <danny> i want to no how i can go into it on linux and add files etc.
[01:16] <diemex> please can anybody say what do i have to do to install skype!!! prv
[01:16] <Sepheebear> danny: so you want to access an external ftp server from your linux machine?
[01:16] <danny> Sepheebear, yes
[01:16] <j-linux> nter: thanks... I was having trouble finding it... :S
[01:17] <Sepheebear> from the command line you use "ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:17] <N6REJ> diemex,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[01:17] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Same thing
[01:17] <stark-johan> I'm having some problems with apache. The only <Directory>-tag i have in my apache2.conf is one for "/" (it denies everything) but still anyone can use the website. I need one folder to be available only via htaccess so that's why I'm testing to deny all.
[01:17] <Sepheebear> or you can install a gui app like gftp
[01:17] <acad> ubuntu is still so hard- :(  someone needs to write a handfull of scripts that automates install of multimedia components like streaming video (realplayer, mplayer-ng, flash, streaming audio (m3u), codecs, and commercial dvd support) then- it' be just about perfect
[01:17] <ElBarono> anyone here have vpnc-fu?  For some reason the 'ip route' command it uses to set up my routes is not recognizing tun0 as a device, even though it appears in ifconfig and /proc/net/dev
[01:17] <kemik> !tell acad about restricted
[01:17] <nter> I had problem figuring that out too
[01:17] <N6REJ> tripleclick, ok.  did you put BOTH the .sys file and the .inf file in the same folder when you did ndiswrapper -i ?
[01:18] <j-linux> Is there a reason that Ubuntu only has Java 1.4.2 and not 1.5?
[01:18] <j-linux> (Breezy)
[01:18] <kemik> j-linux:  it's not SUN-java but some "free" java clone
[01:18] <diemex> n6rej thanks
[01:18] <N6REJ> dieman, yw
[01:18] <nter> i think if you want to use 1.5 you have to get it from sun
[01:18] <j-linux> kemik: oh... so the computer doesn't have "Java" on it.
[01:19] <kemik> j-linux:  i think it has todo with sun java being restricted for re-distritbution
[01:19] <j-linux> Interesting.
[01:19] <tripleclick> N6REJ: I put bcmwl5.sys in the same dir
[01:19] <j-linux> o
[01:19] <j-linux> oh
[01:19] <N6REJ> tripleclick, what about the .inf?
[01:19] <j-linux> I'll get 1.5 then...
[01:19] <dereks_> what does it mean if sbackup shows " [sbackupd]  <defunct>" when i do a backup? it properly creates the incremental stuff (like lists files and what not) just doesn't copy/backup the files
[01:19] <kemik> !tell j-linux about javadebs
[01:19] <kemik> !tell j-linux about java
[01:19] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Of course, bcmwl5.inf
[01:19] <j-linux> kemik: thanks.
[01:19] <N6REJ> tripleclick, ok... I make no assumptions if I can help it.
[01:19] <tripleclick> N6REJ: OK
[01:19] <N6REJ> ok.  Which card exactly do you have?
[01:20] <kemik> dereks_:  <defunct> could be a childprocess without a faaather.. ie a zombie
[01:20] <kemik> or just something else went wrong ;)
[01:20] <dereks_> kemik: why does that happen? why it doesn't do the backup
[01:20] <kemik> dereks_:  no idea
[01:20] <kemik> dereks_:  tried google?
[01:20] <tripleclick>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[01:20] <gnu2it2> any problems in upgrading from 5.1 to 5.10 ?
[01:20] <dereks_> kemik: yup :(
[01:21] <N6REJ> tripleclick, is that a belkin F5d7001?
[01:21] <kemik> dereks_:  ok.. well icant help :/
[01:21] <navarone> dereks> jsut a thought...are you trying to place backups ina  directory that you have write access to?
[01:21] <Sepheebear> gnu2it2: there is no 5.1, hoary is 5.04 and breezy is 5.10
[01:21] <tripleclick> N6REJ: Uses the same chip, I guess
[01:21] <jahshua> i want to burn an image onto cd with my cd burner, can anyone help me out? the burner is plugged into my usb port but its not showing up on the desktop :(
[01:21] <dereks_> navarone: yeah
[01:21] <j-linux> Synaptic shows that only 1.4 is available...
[01:21] <Sepheebear> gnu2it2: YMMV with upgrade issues
[01:22] <navarone> dereks...then that was my only thought...lol :/
[01:22] <N6REJ> tripleclick, yeah it does.  so its not belkin brand though.  Are you running 64bit ubuntu?
[01:22] <mjr> jahshua, if you right click the image in nautilus and select writing to a cd, does it show the burner?
[01:22] <dereks_> navarone: thanks :)
[01:22] <dereks_> navarone: it runs as root
[01:22] <nter> you can go to suns site to get 1.5
[01:22] <danny> Sepheebear, right i installed gftp now how do i get to it and use it
[01:22] <tripleclick> N6REJ: It's in a Dell and is labeled a Broadcom on everything. Not 64-bit.
[01:23] <Sepheebear> danny: applications -> internet -> gftp
[01:23] <gnu2it2> YMMV ?
[01:23] <N6REJ> tripleclick, ok.. .just needed to be sure because you have to do things diff for 64bit.  Broadcom needs to be shot for that crappy card!  we need to punt.  let me get you a uri
[01:24] <N6REJ> tripleclick, go here... follow it step by step... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+belkin
[01:24] <ElBarono> anyone know why 'ip route' can't find my tun0 device, even though it's showing up in ifconfig and /proc/net/dev?
[01:24] <Sepheebear> gnu2it2: your mileage may vary. i.e. you may have no issues upgrading or you may have some, it depends
[01:24] <jrattner1> Is there any way to know when software in the repositories will be upgraded? Specifially Network Manager
[01:24] <N6REJ> tripleclick, after you've removed everything reboot
[01:24] <cirelo> hello
[01:25] <nasas> i just dist-upgrade and accepted everything
[01:25] <nasas> hope my linux doesnt screw up
[01:25] <jrattner1> How can i make an installable package out of a tar.gz
[01:25] <cirelo> this is a nice version of linux
[01:25] <Sepheebear> danny: i forgot but you can also use nautilus to connect to ftp servers as well
[01:25] <tripleclick> Hmm. It says Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules. Should that be?
[01:25] <Gi> hi
[01:25] <N6REJ> tripleclick, yep
[01:25] <Sepheebear> danny: from Places -> Connect to server...
[01:25] <Gi> hello????
[01:26] <Gi> is anyone there???
[01:26] <kuraia> hi Gi
[01:26] <cirelo> hi gi
[01:26] <N6REJ> tripleclick, lunch is ready... follow that and you should be fine.
[01:27] <relampago_> hello
[01:28] <relampago_> how install Fluxbox in my Ubuntu ????
[01:28] <relampago_> how install Fluxbox in my Ubuntu ????
[01:28] <nasas> apt-get install fluxbox
[01:28] <nasas> now go play
[01:29] <j-linux> Where is a good location to install the Java SDK 1.5?
[01:29] <relampago_> root@net1:~# apt-get install fluxbox
[01:29] <relampago_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:29] <relampago_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:29] <relampago_> E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[01:29] <relampago_> root@net1:~#
[01:29] <relampago_> :S
[01:29] <j-linux> relampago_: use synaptic
[01:29] <coNP> j-linux: where from or where to? :)
[01:29] <Seveas> relampago_, do NOT paste in here
[01:29] <relampago_> sorry
[01:29] <tripleclick> I get a lot of "Permission denied" when doing this from the instructions.... for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[01:29] <tripleclick> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[01:29] <tripleclick> done
[01:29] <j-linux> coNP: which directory -- I have it downloaded already.
[01:29] <relampago_> j-linux what it is ?
[01:30] <PeteyPablo> i never understood what was so bad about pasting
[01:30] <coNP> j-linux: use make-jpkg, java-package (multiverse)
[01:30] <j-linux> relampago_: go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic packagae manager
[01:30] <j-linux> relampago_: You can search for fluxbox, click to mark it for installation.  Then hit apply.  Easy
[01:31] <j-linux> coNP: is that Java 1.5?  I didn't see it on the synaptic list.
[01:31] <delmonico_> hi. I'm searching for a very basic video editor. I want to have a simple image (just some text lines) as a 10 second MPEG....
[01:31] <delmonico_> any suggestions?
[01:32] <coNP> j-linux: java-package is a tool to generate a debian (ubuntu) package from sun jre-s / jdk-s
[01:32] <jrattner1> How can i make an installable package out of a tar ball
[01:32] <relampago_> i dont see fluxbox j-linux  :(
[01:32] <crimsun> relampago_: then enable universe.
[01:32] <Wammy> !pastebin
[01:32] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:33] <j-linux> relampago_: It might not be in the regular repositories... Check Universe.  In synaptic, click on the Settings menu.  Choose add repositories.  Then add Universe.  Reload the list.  Search for fluxbox.  I see it on mine.
[01:33] <j-linux> coNP: is that necessary?  I already downloaded the .bin from Java.  It says I should just run it to install in any directory that I want.  I just don't know which directory is best.
[01:34] <nekostar> happy new years guys! im gonna be in san fransiscoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:34] <coNP> j-linux: not necessary, but I would recommand to do so not to mess your filesystem
[01:34] <coNP> j-linux: you might install to /usr/local/<somewhere> or /opt/<somewhere> depending on the free disk space
[01:35] <j-linux> coNP: I have 40 GB free... :S  I'm searching synaptic and found "java-package 0.26"
[01:35] <j-linux> is that it?
[01:35] <coNP> j-linux: sure
[01:36] <coNP> j-linux: I thought you might have separate partitions for /usr or /usr/local or so
[01:36] <darkbutterfly> hi
[01:36] <darkbutterfly> how is everyone?
[01:36] <j-linux> coNP: no... I'm not that advanced yet and had enough problems getting Linux installed just to one partition.
[01:36] <Gi> I again
[01:36] <aquarius> I've got a machine where the breezy install CD doesn't work; I get segfaults after booting it and before I get to the first menu. It seems to be busybox that's segfaulting (it does the same with a Knoppix CD). What might be wrong?
[01:36] <Gi> I'm fine
[01:36] <j-linux> coNP: so if it is just one partition, I can just use the Sun .bin?
[01:37] <Gi> I'm looking for some good programs
[01:37] <Gi> maybe someone can help me
[01:37] <globe> how do I tell xwin to look for the nameservers in resolv.conf?
[01:37] <j-linux> Gi: what kinds of programs?
[01:37] <coNP> j-linux: yes, if you really want to :)
[01:37] <Gi> wich is the best program for recording DVDs?
[01:37] <coNP> j-linux: java-package makes it easier to upgrade / remove stuff
[01:37] <captain-petz> hey guys can any1 tell me how to update my java runtime?
[01:37] <Gi> I also need a good one to listen and to edit music
[01:37] <captain-petz> like with apt-get
[01:38] <coNP> captain-petz: how did you install it?
[01:38] <Zambba> Gi: for listening amaroK is a good pick
[01:38] <j-linux> coNP:  ok... I'll try it.
[01:38] <Gi> how do I get it?
[01:38] <captain-petz> comp, can't member
[01:38] <captain-petz> didn't do it
[01:38] <coNP> captain-petz: okay, do you have any java packages installed (check with synaptic)
[01:38] <erUSUL> !java
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:39] <Gi> I'm sorry, I'm just totally new here
[01:39] <erUSUL> !javadebs
[01:39] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[01:39] <Gi> maybe you guys can help me
[01:39] <Gi> I just started using linux
[01:39] <coNP> Gi: what do you want to get?
[01:39] <Zambba> Gi: you can install almost any piece of software using apt-get or its GUIs (Synaptic, Adept)
[01:39] <j-linux> Gi: follow the menus: System --> Adminstration --> Synaptic package manager.
[01:39] <GeorgesA> hi everyone
[01:39] <Gi> some programs for music and recording
[01:39] <captain-petz> apt-get what would that be then?
[01:40] <j-linux> Gi: Then search for Amarok.  Mark the checkbox and click "apply".  You will then have Amarok.
[01:40] <delmonico_> Gi: if you have a music collection with good ID3-Tags (i.e. Artits, Title, etc. tags) amarok is what you want...
[01:40] <GeorgesA> could someone help me ? I'm looking for an ubuntu-command
[01:40] <Gi> but I can't manage to use it
[01:40] <rowar> yeah amarok is the best aplication
[01:40] <j-linux> Gi: you can browse thousands of programs with Synaptic and download them with a few clicks.
[01:40] <delmonico_> Gi: for editing sounds, there is plenty of applications... simple cutting can be done with audacity, but there are also a lot of applications if you want to create sounds...
[01:41] <rowar> you can use automatix is the best for ubuntu beginners ^^
[01:41] <ITSa341> http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy  not available, bandwidth exceeded
[01:41] <Thunderguy> Hey, I was gonna compile that new Firefox 1.5, so first I have to remove Firefox right? but when I go to remove firefox it tells me that it will also have to remove ubuntu-desktop because of the dependencies ?!?!
[01:41] <ITSa341> grrr
[01:41] <relampago_> j-linux done. how start fluxbox ?
[01:41] <Gi> thanks to the tips, guys
[01:41] <captain-petz> whats gcj?
[01:42] <j-linux> relampago_: log off.  Then log back in, using somehting like the "session" menu (under the login box)
[01:42] <GeorgesA> I'm trying to install Warcraft III with wine, to do so I have to mount the cdrom as said there http://nuxsrv.free.fr/war3-tutorial-fr/tutorial_wine_et_warcraft_3.htm (in french, sorry)
[01:42] <relampago_> oks, let's see
[01:42] <ITSa341> rowar, automatix hosed my ubuntu install yesterday. Couldn't boot after running it.
[01:42] <Athame> Hello all, I have a complete newbie question. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 x86 on a dual-boot with xp pro sp2. Running a Radeon x600 pro 256 vid card, Intel pent 4 cpu 3.2 ghz. I get to the upscreen and the system freezes, can't get past that in regular, recovery, or on the live cd. Only other thing is I'm running dual monitors with desktop extended in xp. Any ideas why or how to fix it?
[01:42] <j-linux> relampago_: If you are just trying out different windows managers, try XFCE... It's great.
[01:42] <erUSUL> Thunderguy, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package no harm in removing it
[01:42] <yatesy> yea i've just been trying that :)
[01:42] <rowar> do use the wrong version?
[01:42] <kuraia> hi all
[01:43] <rowar> hi
[01:43] <Gi> how do I run a private conversation here?
[01:43] <tripleclick> How do I prevent the need to type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" ever time I boot up to get my wireless card turned on?
[01:43] <ITSa341> nope, used the ubuntu version, and I'm using ubuntu 5.10
[01:43] <kuraia> when i type sudo in ubuntu i get this message / user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.
[01:43] <globe> How do I get my computer to use dns?
[01:43] <Zambba> tripleclick: add ndiswrapper to text file called /etc/modules
[01:43] <erUSUL> tripleclick, add ndiswrapper to the en of /etc/modules
[01:43] <kuraia> vi /etc/resolv.conf globe
[01:43] <erUSUL> end*
[01:44] <Thunderguy> erUSUL: Right, but say if I ever do want to remove ubuntu-desktop, is there a problem if the meta-package is already gone?
[01:44] <kuraia> globe write your dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:44] <ITSa341> rowar, I did reinstall and ran automatix successfully today. :-)
[01:45] <rowar> oh ok
[01:45] <rowar> its very solid...
[01:45] <ITSa341> but, lost my AOL during the reinstall  :-(
[01:45] <erUSUL> Thunderguy, i can not know for sure maybe when you upgrtade to dapper. chec the wiki there is how to to install ff 1.5
[01:45] <rowar> aol?
[01:45] <Gi> gosh
[01:45] <ITSa341> I run AOL
[01:45] <rowar> ah AOL ^^
[01:45] <Thunderguy> oh ok, thanks
[01:45] <globe> kuraia: the dns info is in there...it was put there when I dhclient my wireless card
[01:45] <captain-petz> thanks everybody, but I'm going to bed now. it's almost 2am. have a nice one
[01:45] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  I use to work for AOL and I dont really recomend it for anyone
[01:46] <rowar> ITSa341 do you use an dile in?
[01:46] <Thunderguy> Happy Holidays to you as well Lilo
[01:46] <rowar> the same in germany but ist called t-offline hh t-online
[01:46] <ITSa341> Inf3ctedFx   I still do beta testing for them and I must say if you haven't tried the latest version I agree with you.
[01:46] <ITSa341> rowar:  I'm on dsl
[01:47] <globe> kuraia: is there some way that I have to point my apps at that file?
[01:47] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  there is another version coming up calls Coplant
[01:47] <rowar> me too dsl 6000
[01:47] <Inf3ctedFx> AOL Coplant
[01:47] <ITSa341> rowar  I mainly use AOL for a specific chatroom where some friends of mine do tech support and just hang out.
[01:48] <kuraia> globe, what application do you want to point that file?
[01:48] <Inf3ctedFx> AOL Sec/Edit has errors with the ACS
[01:48] <rowar> oh tech support fpr AOL?
[01:48] <Inf3ctedFx> it will give u head aches on the connection
[01:48] <rowar> *dor
[01:48] <rowar> *for
[01:49] <kalin> how can i add a plug-in to mozilla if i'm not authorization to modify it???
[01:49] <ITSa341> Inf3ctedFx: Have you tried the latest version of 9.0 security?  One interface for Anti-virus, Anti-Spyware, Anti-phishing, Anti-Pharming, Firewall, Money alerts etc etc
[01:49] <kalin> authorized i mean
[01:49] <globe> kuraia: most programs dont seem to want to use the dns at all.  but telnet, ping ect work from the term
[01:49] <kalin> does anybody have an idea?
[01:49] <ITSa341> rowar  tech support for Windows, mac, linux, aol or just about anything else including vhs, dvd, camera etc
[01:49] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  I use to be tech support on aol.. of course I'll tryed but the Safety and Security Center is still mess up xD
[01:50] <kuraia> globe, if you edit resolv.conf
[01:50] <kuraia> the applications point to that file
[01:50] <ITSa341> Inf3cted  unless you tried it in the last 2 weeks it is a new system
[01:50] <Wammy> anyone willing to help me find out why a driver wont compile? output is at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6397
[01:50] <ITSa341> I hated the old version
[01:50] <rowar> kalin: start mozilla out of the terminal use the comand sudo before ue use the start command for mozilla
[01:51] <ITSa341> can't run 9.0 in ubuntu anyway
[01:51] <ITSa341> yet.......
[01:51] <rowar> kalin: the you have root privilegs
[01:51] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  safety and Security Center is a new system that aol install.. but if u want just the Mcafee go to "install.av.aol.com"
[01:51] <ITSa341> <-- never gives up
[01:51] <erUSUL> kalin, add the plugin to your ~/.mozilla/..ff../plugins
[01:51] <kalin> so u mean <sudo start mozilla?>
[01:51] <globe> kuraia, my name servers are in there already though
[01:51] <ITSa341> Inf3tedFx  I go to beta and install from there
[01:52] <Delvien> Hey guys, im trying to install Dapper, but i get this error " KERNAL PANIC -NOT SYNCING :VFS: UNABLE TO MOUNT UNKOWN BLOCK (1,0) can anyone help a brother out?
[01:52] <ITSa341> and like I said, I use ALL those components from one interface
[01:52] <rowar> example for firefox: sudo firefox
[01:52] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  i do not recommend go to beta.. because if u start getting problems with it.. Tech Support wont support it.. cuz is a beta version
[01:53] <Delvien> is nalioth or seveas here ? any other experienced linux pro here ?
[01:53] <rowar> do you have an icon for mozilla? make an right klick go to propertis and read the text in the comand box
[01:53] <ITSa341> Inf3tedFx  that's 1/2 the fun with beta testing. Finding and figuring workarounds for the bugs  :-)
[01:53] <rowar> if type it in the terminal it will also start mozilla
[01:53] <Inf3ctedFx> not right now Delvien
[01:53] <Delvien> :(
[01:53] <nalioth> Delvien: just ask your question to the channel, there are many folks here
[01:53] <Delvien> i did
[01:53] <Delvien> hehe :)
[01:53] <Inf3ctedFx> oks ITSa341  good luck with it xD
[01:53] <Delvien> nalioth but you are so smart :)
[01:54] <bobby> can someone direct me to url that gives step by step in configuring tar.bz file to install onto ubuntu
[01:54] <nalioth> Delvien: you answer: don't install dapper using todays image
[01:54] <lampshade> !ubotu tell lampshade about enlightenment
[01:54] <rowar> kalin: have xou found the comand?
[01:54] <ITSa341> Inf3ctedFx  I wish I could get some version newer than 4.0 to fully work in ubuntu
[01:54] <Inf3ctedFx> bobby:  tar jxfv file.tar.bz2
[01:54] <Delvien> nalioth o.. umm it worked in vmware just fine
[01:54] <bobby> that will decompres but I need to install
[01:54] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  try 8.0
[01:54] <nalioth> Delvien: vmware is not actual hardware
[01:54] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  r u using Wine?
[01:55] <Delvien> nalioth i think it is saying VFS (vfat system ) i think, because sda1 is NTFS
[01:55] <ITSa341> Inf3ctedFx  it installs but won't launch
[01:55] <graft> bobby - install what, where?
[01:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  it wont?
[01:55] <ITSa341> I tried it with wine and with crossover office 5.0
[01:55] <globe> whats another command simmilar to chmod?
[01:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  do u want to go to a tech chatroom?
[01:55] <bobby> there are two apps I want to try to install gruler and colorscheme
[01:55] <graft> chown?
[01:55] <ITSa341> it just hangs during launch
[01:55] <bobby> no deb file
[01:55] <toydi> Hi, I really new to Linux platform. I just installed Ubuntu and my resolution stuck at 640x480. I'm using VIA/S3 UniChrome IGP on-board display card. How to fix the resolution?
[01:56] <ITSa341> Not at the moment but if you have one you recommend I would love to bookmark it
[01:56] <graft> bobby, so you're compiling from source?
[01:56] <globe> graft: is there one that has two i's in it?
[01:56] <bobby> yes
[01:56] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  all tech support has they own chatroom is not really open to the regular users  next time try #Head_of_the_class
[01:56] <erUSUL> !tell toydi about fixres
[01:56] <graft> globe - uh... what? hrm
[01:56] <timmy_> Hi all
[01:56] <ITSa341> Inf3ctedFx   thanks, I will
[01:56] <Delvien> nalioth thanks bro ill try somemore things before i install
[01:56] <Inf3ctedFx> ITSa341:  but don't say anything about me xD they know me
[01:56] <bobby> I did the tar -xvf to decompress
[01:56] <Delvien> nalioth gotta find a way to edit partition table without booting to an OS
[01:56] <globe> graft: a file attribute changer (like chmod) but has two i's in it.
[01:57] <bobby> then make but it says no make file
[01:57] <ITSa341> ok
[01:57] <bobby> no then./configure
[01:57] <Delvien> nalioth i want to get rid of windows all together
[01:57] <bobby> then make
[01:57] <Inf3ctedFx> bobby:  did u tried tar jxfv?
[01:57] <j-linux> What do people think about automatix?
[01:57] <bobby> but no make file
[01:57] <graft> globe: is this like a trivia question or something?
[01:57] <cello_rasp> hi.. i have been given an ipod shuffle for christmas. is there any way i can put music on it with ubuntu?
[01:57] <rowar> i love it ^^
[01:57] <toydi> ubotu, i'm reading FixVideoResolutionHOWTO now. Just a question, how to know i am using either X11 or XFree86?
[01:57] <ubotu> toydi: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:57] <rowar> <--- love automatix
[01:57] <bobby> no xvf not jxvf
[01:57] <globe> graft: no I am trying to remember a command
[01:57] <Inf3ctedFx> mmm
[01:57] <Kyral> rowar: don't express that sentiment
[01:57] <bobby> automatix rules
[01:58] <Kyral> rowar: EasyUbuntu is...fixing it
[01:58] <kuraia> hi i need help
[01:58] <timmy_> I just got my ubuntu up and running, first time linux user
[01:58] <Gi> hello
[01:58] <Malachi> globe: Thanks for your help with the scripts!
[01:58] <bobby> greaet timmy
[01:58] <sally_> what package do I install to be able to view a list of wireless networks that I can connect to and then pick one and connect to it?  gui, not iwlist
[01:58] <timmy_> not too difficult yet!
[01:58] <crimsun> wifi-radar
[01:58] <timmy_> haha
[01:58] <globe> malachi: n/p glad it worked
[01:58] <Malachi> globe: One question though.
[01:58] <graft> can't help you, globe... what are you trying to achieve?
[01:58] <erUSUL> toydi, you are using xorg
[01:58] <rowar> easyubuntu? why not ubuntu?
[01:58] <Malachi> globe: What about comments?
[01:58] <toydi> erUSUL, ok thanks!
[01:59] <kuraia> when I type sudo command i get this message user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.
[01:59] <kuraia> can anybody help me?
[01:59] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[01:59] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[01:59] <|Lestat|> Can anyone tell me why i cant seem to transfer more than 700kB/s in linux?
[01:59] <Kyral> timmy_: perhaps you would enjoy learning about the commandline?
[01:59] <globe> malachi: I dont remember.  probably google that one "comments in linux scripts" or something
[01:59] <Gi> argh
[01:59] <Gi> I still need help as well
[01:59] <Gi> hehe
[01:59] <graft> kuraia, no one can help you now... th e police are coming for you!
[01:59] <Inf3ctedFx> kuraia: what r u trying to run?
[01:59] <globe> kuraia: ask your question....
[01:59] <Malachi> globe: Mm. Can't believe I forgot to Google first.
[01:59] <rowar> ist hte an download link for easyubuntu?
[01:59] <Inf3ctedFx> graft:  hahaha
[01:59] <kuraia> when I type sudo command, i get this message user is not allowed to run sudo on ubuntu.  This incident will be reported.
[02:00] <Inf3ctedFx> kuraia:  what r u trying to run?
[02:00] <timmy_> Kyral, I am playing around with that now.  Everything I do with the GUI I try and figure out the command line equivalent
[02:00] <graft> kuraia, you better put that user in sudoers
[02:00] <ComradeVladimir> anyone use m trip?
[02:00] <Gi> well
[02:00] <bobby> there is no jxfv
[02:00] <kuraia> graft, that user is putted in sudoeres
[02:00] <toydi> after CTRL-ATL-BACKSPACE to restart X, I always back to console mode, how to switch back GUI? I tried Alt+F7 but nothing happen?
[02:00] <Kyral> timmy_: I wrote a quite good (if I may say so) turotial on the Command line in the Forums
[02:00] <Kyral> timmy_: If you would like I could dig up the link
[02:00] <globe> kuraia:your not using root ru?
[02:00] <Inf3ctedFx> bobby:  I always use the tar jxfv to unzip the bz2
[02:00] <timmy_> that would be awesome!
[02:01] <bobby> under man page for tar there is no j
[02:01] <kuraia> globe i'm nost using root
[02:01] <ITSa341> bbiab
[02:01] <graft> bobby, you've got a really old version of tar, then
[02:01] <bobby> but unzipping is not the problem it is compiling and installing the file
[02:01] <Inf3ctedFx> I think so
[02:01] <bobby> I just ireinstalled ubuntu 5.10 to day
[02:01] <Athame> Hello all, I have a complete newbie question. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 x86 on a dual-boot with xp pro sp2. Running a Radeon x600 pro 256 vid card, Intel pent 4 cpu 3.2 ghz. I get to the upscreen and the system freezes, can't get past that in regular, recovery, or on the live cd. Only other thing is I'm running dual monitors with desktop extended in xp. Any ideas why or how to fix it?
[02:02] <Kyral> timmy_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[02:02] <globe> athame: is your video card listed on ubuntu.org supported hardware?
[02:02] <|Lestat|> Can anyone tell me why i cant seem to transfer more than 700kB/s in linux?
[02:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Athame: yesterday was a guy with the same problem
[02:02] <bobby> as I said the unzipping is not my problem it is compiling andinstalling is there a url with step by step for this
[02:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Athame:  let me show u a website it might help
[02:03] <Athame> cool
[02:03] <_badabing_> hey there, i'm running Mac OS X on my humble mac mini, i'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 WITHOUT having to remove and re-partition my HDD... does anyone have a solution, please?
[02:03] <graft> bobby, read the INSTALL file that came with the program
[02:03] <timmy_> Thanks again, off to another tutorial!  This is fun.
[02:03] <pl_ice> hey everyone :)
[02:03] <Inf3ctedFx> Athame:  use this one even if is for gentoo --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[02:03] <bobby> I did and did what it said yet wafter I do the ./compile I do the make and it sayd no make file
[02:03] <Inf3ctedFx> it works for me pretty good Athame
[02:03] <bobby> ./configure
[02:04] <Athame> Inf3ctedfx - I was on this morning and asked that, they said to try x86 I did and same thing is that what you're thinking of?
[02:04] <erUSUL> bobby, is ./configure
[02:04] <rowar> cu all untill tomorrow
[02:04] <graft> err... kuraia, still around?
[02:04] <bobby> right but after that I do the make and it says ther is no make file
[02:04] <kuraia> yes graft
[02:04] <graft> how complex is your sudoers file?
[02:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Athame:  can be the module on the kernel for the video card driver
[02:04] <Kyral> I should really write up something on basic Bash Scripting
[02:04] <kuraia> graft it's simple
[02:05] <Inf3ctedFx> Athame:  chekc that website i gave u.. it might help
[02:05] <erUSUL> bobby, has the configure show no errors?
[02:05] <kuraia> graft i give it to you
[02:05] <Athame> cool will do looking at it now, ty
[02:06] <timmy_> Kyral, that link is going to come in very hand, thanks a lot!
[02:06] <Kyral> timmy_: check for updates..like when I get bored lol
[02:06] <graft> kuraia what does `hostname` say?
[02:07] <timmy_> I will, already bookmarked that one!  Very handy
[02:07] <kuraia> graft i don't understand you
[02:07] <casa> hola
[02:07] <graft> when you run the command 'hostname', what does it say?
[02:08] <fredforfaen> does anybody here know how to enable true transparency in breezy?
[02:08] <Kyral> Carefully
[02:08] <kuraia> graft ubuntu
[02:08] <graft> and is there a Host_Alias line in your sudoers file?
[02:08] <kuraia> yes graft it is
[02:09] <kuraia> but the name is birmingham
[02:09] <kuraia> XD
[02:09] <kuraia> thanks
[02:09] <timmy_> Kyral, thanks for the link.  I will stop by now and again.  Time to wash the dog.  Bye all
[02:09] <timmy_> :)
[02:09] <kalin> how can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not able to modify it?
[02:09] <graft> well, there you go, then
[02:10] <waseem> Cannot configure the keyboard to Swedish
[02:10] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[02:10] <tripleclick> On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29 it says to do "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" but that command gives me errors. Does that command look right?
[02:11] <graft> ah... i do!
[02:11] <graft> what are you running?
[02:11] <graft> and what video card have you got?
[02:12] <tripleclick> graft: Not talking to me are you?
[02:12] <graft> no, fredforfaen
[02:13] <waseem> I am running Ubuntu/Breezy
[02:14] <waseem> Hello somebody!
[02:14] <Haukkari> eek
[02:15] <waseem> miaow
[02:15] <graft> waseem, why can't you configure the keyboard to swedish?
[02:15] <graft> at what level are you trying to do this?
[02:15] <waseem> I dont know I tick mark it at the right place but no result
[02:16] <graft> what is "the right place"?
[02:16] <erUSUL> tripleclick, i can not see that comand in the page read again
[02:16] <waseem> in preferences
[02:17] <waseem> systems/preferences/keyboards/layouts
[02:17] <graft> you're running gnome?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> with firefox 1.5 (i think this occured in 1.0.7 as well), how do you get it to open in full screen mode?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> i'm running kde
[02:18] <waseem> yeah
[02:18] <waseem> gnome
[02:18] <riffic> hello.. so it looks like I just dist-upgraded to dapper and the 2.6.15 kernels got pulled from the pool
[02:18] <graft> hrm... can't help you much there, don't know gnome
[02:18] <riffic> will it be safe to reboot on a breezy kernel ?
[02:19] <pilgrim> Hi all. I want to compile my kernel so I apt-got kernel-package , what else do I need ?
[02:19] <BraveFencerKirby> Can someone help me?  I'm trying to load Ubuntu onto an older computer and it runs from the install CD I burned fine but then it fails partway through.  Says the failing step is "load installer components from CD".
[02:19] <waseem> Never done it before. Started using Ubuntu 2 days back. Teething problems.
[02:19] <riffic> try burning another cd?
[02:19] <waseem>  a real newbie
[02:20] <riffic> it could possibly be a bad cd-rom
[02:20] <BraveFencerKirby> Tryed redownloading the image and burning a new CD from THAT.  Same problem.
[02:20] <Sturgeon> BraveFencerKirby: either your cd is broken or your cd-reader is broken
[02:20] <riffic> probably the latter
[02:20] <Sturgeon> I had that problem because my cd reader was malfunctioning
[02:20] <kalin> how can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not authorized to write into it?
[02:20] <graft> riffic, don't see why it would be a problem...
[02:20] <riffic> oh wow unregged chat
[02:20] <BraveFencerKirby> That's no fun at all.
[02:20] <Sturgeon> but I was able to install it anyway
[02:20] <riffic> brb
[02:20] <BraveFencerKirby> On sec, I'm going to try something.
[02:21] <regeya_> ok rock on.
[02:21] <Sturgeon> Just tried again and again until it worked.
[02:21] <gnu2it2> anyone running dapper?
[02:21] <kalin> i'm sure there is somebody who knows the aolution ;)
[02:21] <Malachi> Didn't know it was out.
[02:22] <Sturgeon> When I download new packages (say games) that don't appear in the "applications" menus, how am I supposed to find them?
[02:22] <waseem> Stupid question. Can I install Suse at the place where I have Ubuntu now.
[02:22] <kalin> come on people i need ur great knowledge
[02:22] <Sturgeon> Ok, I find the command to run them, but the rest of the files
[02:22] <erUSUL> waseem, yes
[02:22] <riffic> Sturgeon: $ which <name>
[02:22] <waseem> Good. Sound promising
[02:22] <Hobbsee> gnu2it2: yes, some people
[02:22] <Cerberus> hello, i need some help pwith GPated
[02:23] <Cerberus> Grparted*
[02:23] <BraveFencerKirby> Crap.  I tried running it from my other drive (the comp's got two CD drives) and it just ignored the thing completely and booted up in Windows.
[02:23] <waseem> Is it simply to put the CD in and Voila!
[02:23] <kalin> how can i add a plug in to mozilla if i'm not allowed to modify it?
[02:23] <graft> BraveFencerKirby, make sure you can boot from both drives...
[02:23] <graft> check your bios boot config
[02:24] <graft> kalin, put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:24] <Cerberus> i need some hekp repartitioning my NTFS drive, any takers?
[02:24] <kalin> but i'm not the administrato!
[02:25] <pashaw> kalin,  sudo
[02:25] <BraveFencerKirby> It's also giving me some weird error about PCI slots, which it wasn't before...
[02:25] <kalin> i can't
[02:25] <graft> doesn't matter
[02:25] <graft> you have full rights to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:25] <graft> it's in your home directory
[02:25] <kalin> how can i use sudo?
[02:25] <graft> BraveFencerKirby... the system is down, yo
[02:25] <graft> kalin, forget sudo
[02:25] <kalin> what does it do?
[02:25] <graft> install it locally... it's better that way
[02:26] <kalin> okok forgetting sudo
[02:26] <graft> that way you won't have ot reinstall plugins every time you upgrade mozilla
[02:26] <pashaw> kalin,   graft says its in your user home
[02:26] <kalin> ;)
[02:26] <BraveFencerKirby> It'll boot normally, I just can't get Ubuntu to install.
[02:26] <Cerberus> can you give me some GParted help
[02:26] <kalin> the plug is in m,y desktop
[02:26] <pashaw> Cerberus,   whats the problem?
[02:27] <Cerberus> i am trying to resize my NTFS partition
[02:27] <Cerberus> so that i can install ubuntu
[02:27] <CentHOGG> Cerberbus: gparted partitions aren't seen in XP
[02:27] <kalin> hey! mozilla is not in my home directory!
[02:27] <pashaw> Cerberus,   ok tou made backups  before starting   then used gparted
[02:28] <kalin> mozilla is within usr/lib
[02:28] <Cerberus> ya, what are the approx. chances of GParted screwing up my NTFS drive?
[02:28] <graft> yeah, but .mozilla is in your home dir
[02:28] <pashaw> Cerberus,  backups right?   as your risking the loss of the entire ntfs partition so you know
[02:28] <BraveFencerKirby> Resource Conflict - PCI in slot 01 Bus: 01, Device:0E, Function:00
[02:28] <BraveFencerKirby> That mean anything to anyone?
[02:28] <pashaw> Cerberus,   i dont gamble   hate losing
[02:28] <Cerberus> yeah, that is why i am wary
[02:29] <Cerberus> of resizing
[02:29] <pashaw> Cerberus,   so backups  first
[02:29] <CentHOGG> partition magic
[02:29] <Cerberus> partition magic costs $ :/
[02:29] <Cerberus> and GParted seems to be an equal
[02:30] <CentHOGG> Cerberbus: gparted partitions aren't seen in XP
[02:30] <kalin> mmm nop mozilla is within USR which is at the same level of HOME
[02:30] <pashaw> CentHOGG, that doesnt make sense
[02:30] <Cerberus> why not, shouldnt XP see NTFS no matter where it is made from
[02:30] <globe> iwconfig
[02:30] <pl_ice> hey, wish ya all, all the best in New Years !! party hard like a animal :)
[02:30] <CentHOGG> gparted does NTFS....
[02:30] <Cerberus> yeah
[02:31] <Cerberus> it says it can do all but copy for NTFS
[02:31] <CentHOGG> i concur with pashaw
[02:31] <graft> kalin... type ls .mozilla from within your home dir.
[02:31] <CentHOGG> never gamble on something valueable
[02:31] <pashaw> Cerberus,   last time i used knoppix  with qtparted
[02:31] <CentHOGG> too lose
[02:32] <kalin> ??? in the terminal?
[02:32] <graft> yeah
[02:32] <pashaw> kalin,   type  cd ~ <enter>    then  type   ls -al  youll see your .mozilla   as graft said
[02:33] <graft> also, you should clearly read "man intro"
[02:33] <andres> necesito ayuda :D
[02:33] <pashaw> !es
[02:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:34] <pashaw> andres,   wrong language
[02:35] <pashaw> andres, ??  sorry if i guess wrong
[02:35] <kalin> it appeared this: appreg firefox mozver.dat pluginreg.dat plugins
[02:35] <BraveFencerKirby> Hey, can someone tell me how to verify the ISO file that I downloaded?  I saw something about that on the wiki but it didn't make any damn sense to me.
[02:36] <kalin> with firefox and plugins in blue text
[02:36] <pashaw> kalin,  you just listed your .mozilla folder in user home
[02:36] <pashaw> kalin,   so its there
[02:36] <graft> kalin what plugin are you trying to install?
[02:36] <kalin> so now i can modify it?
[02:36] <kalin> libflashplayer.so
[02:36] <graft> ah
[02:37] <intelikey> BraveFencerKirby check the md5 sum ?
[02:37] <graft> yeah just do : cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:37] <BraveFencerKirby> Yeah, about that.  WTF does that mean?  ~_~
[02:37] <pashaw> BraveFencerKirby,   did you use bittorrent or  http/ftp download?
[02:37] <BraveFencerKirby> I downloaded it off one of the mirrors.
[02:37] <graft> although actually
[02:37] <graft> flash should have its own installer script
[02:37] <pashaw> !tell BraveFencerKirby about md5
[02:38] <intelikey> BraveFencerKirby if you have burned it to cd  boot the  cd  to expert mode and run the cd testing app that is listed in the menu
[02:38] <BraveFencerKirby> Pashaw, looked at that.  All Greek to me.
[02:38] <pashaw> BraveFencerKirby,   lol  follow intelikey's advice
[02:39] <BraveFencerKirby> Working on that
[02:39] <kalin> can't do 'stat' over "libflashplayer.so"
[02:39] <kalin> the file o dir doesn't exist
[02:39] <wizardjames> how do i add themes to limewire?
[02:40] <graft> well cd to whatever directory it's in first
[02:40] <raymond> HOW DI I INSTALL LIMEWIRE
[02:40] <BraveFencerKirby> First, turn off capslock
[02:40] <raymond> sry
[02:40] <BraveFencerKirby> Second...  ask someone else.  I'm clueless.
[02:40] <odat> hello everyone
[02:40] <graft> Second, use gtk-gnutella... limewire blows
[02:40] <intelikey> shoot  high  and  shoot  low,  maybe  if  you  knock  their  hat  off  with  the  first  shot  they  will  dance  for  the  second.   :)
[02:40] <wizardjames> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2511334  < is how to install it..
[02:40] <graft> needlessly hogs system resources
[02:41] <pashaw> !tell raymond about limewire
[02:41] <wizardjames> ok..i will try that
[02:41] <odat> anyone know if what systems tools i may be able to use to track down problems with a system that is running slow aka Norton Utilities?
[02:41] <pashaw> odat,    top
[02:41] <graft> odat - 'top'
[02:42] <wizardjames> were do i get gtk-gnutella graft
[02:42] <graft> it's in the ubuntu repos
[02:42] <odat> graft, top?
[02:42] <graft> odat - just run 'top' in the shell
[02:42] <pashaw> odat,   top will tell you whats running and what resources its using
[02:42] <BraveFencerKirby> Crap.
[02:42] <D1> hmm, are there any Limewire debs out there besides ubuntu guide's install?
[02:42] <D1> !limewire
[02:42] <ubotu> hmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[02:42] <BraveFencerKirby> did the "check CD-ROM integrity" thing and it failed instantly.
[02:43] <relampago> hello :O
[02:43] <CentHOGG> ola
[02:43] <graft> haha
[02:43] <relampago> :p
[02:43] <graft> well, at least your cd-rom drive isn't busted
[02:43] <odat> graft, k thats cool but is there any software that fixes problems with the system?
[02:43] <pashaw> BraveFencerKirby,   new download needed then
[02:43] <graft> um... what sort of problems?
[02:43] <BraveFencerKirby> I already tried that, though.
[02:43] <intelikey> BraveFencerKirby that's not good !
[02:44] <relampago> i try ./configure and the error is: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:44] <pashaw> odat,   yep you
[02:44] <graft> how did you download it, BraveFencerKirby?
[02:44] <odat> graft, it seems this computer gets slower and slower and always system to have trouble with the file system
[02:44] <relampago> how fix it?
[02:44] <relampago> :S
[02:44] <BraveFencerKirby> Off one of the mirrors.
[02:44] <odat> pashaw, ?
[02:44] <graft> odat, that really depends on what you're running on it
[02:44] <odat> graft, how so?
[02:44] <relampago> i try ./configure and the error is: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:45] <CentHOGG> relampago: how did you install the compiler?
[02:45] <intelikey> BraveFencerKirby you did get the one that is made for your architecture ?
[02:45] <relampago> CentHOGG apt-get install gcc
[02:45] <graft> well, if you're running some program that hogs memory and CPU time, it'll obviously get slower
[02:45] <pashaw> relampago,   spamming gets you ignored    try and wait at least a few mins between asking
[02:45] <CentHOGG> hold on
[02:45] <BraveFencerKirby> Intel: yeah, I'm using the intel one.
[02:45] <graft> no, BraveFencerKirby, i mean what program did you use to download the image?
[02:46] <relampago> pashaw, ?
[02:46] <BraveFencerKirby> Program?  Uh, IE?
[02:46] <graft> oh... um
[02:46] <kalin> graft, well i'll try later i'm hungry now
[02:46] <graft> and you don't know how to check the md5?
[02:46] <graft> oh... sorry, kalin, thought you were gone
[02:46] <BraveFencerKirby> Nope.
[02:47] <odat> graft, ?
[02:47] <relampago> CentHOGG ??
[02:47] <graft> odat... what do you use your computer for, normally?
[02:47] <CentHOGG> relampago:  go here and read this http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=current#2
[02:48] <relampago> ok :/
[02:48] <odat> graft, this computer in particular is used mostly for browsing the web and music stuff
[02:48] <graft> hey BraveFencerKirby, check out fastsum.com
[02:48] <graft> you can check md5s with that...
[02:49] <pashaw> odat,    how much RAM does it have?
[02:50] <pashaw> odat,    type in a terminal      free    and tell us the total/ used /and free
[02:51] <odat> pashaw, i have 776552 in total memory and about half of that is being used
[02:51] <intelikey> pashaw you do know that free is very inacurate about the actual used/free  amounts don't you ?
[02:51] <pashaw> intelikey,   yes but he  never answered my first question so needed somewhere to start  total is correct tho
[02:51] <graft> hmm... with that much memory probably swapping is not her problem
[02:51] <relampago> CentHOGG, http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=current#2
[02:51] <relampago> ups
[02:51] <relampago> CentHOGG, ln: gcc: El fichero existe
[02:52] <intelikey> total is correct minus the kernels 4m +/-
[02:52] <CentHOGG> brb
[02:52] <pashaw> odat,   looking at free again how does your swap look   size and used
[02:53] <pashaw> intelikey, now your nit picking  :P
[02:53] <odat> pashaw, swap is 2273156     0 being used
[02:53] <intelikey> they hatch into lice
[02:54] <BraveFencerKirby> What the hell?  My computer is finding new hardware where there is none.
[02:54] <pashaw> odat,   your good there  as it is then     how long til the slow down starts?   3 hours?    what programs are running when it starts?
[02:54] <pashaw> BraveFencerKirby,    burn it   its a witch!
[02:54] <jeori> how can you find out which directory a program is installed to?
[02:55] <Kyral> which <command>
[02:55] <pashaw> jeori,    locate  <name>
[02:55] <intelikey> i'd say with the 700m of ram he described he's good on mem piriod.  with or without swap.
[02:55] <jeori> thanks
[02:56] <pashaw> intelikey,   agreed  but had to check he even had swap enabled
[02:56] <odat> pashaw, the whole system is slower than it used to be    start ups are slower and each time it does the manual check after 30 start ups there are file system problems that need to be fixed  it appears the file system and the hard drive don't like eachother very much
[02:56] <intelikey> pashaw why ?
[02:56] <pashaw> intelikey, if he fills the 700  bad things happen with no swap
[02:56] <intelikey> pashaw i don't have swap and only 64m  of ram.   what is his error ?
[02:56] <pashaw> intelikey,   i have 2G in my home machine its runs a steady 12mb swap
[02:57] <TraceGreen> Hello, can ubuntu install on a pc whose memory just 64M?
[02:57] <Kyral> TraceGreen: it would be close
[02:57] <pashaw> TraceGreen,   do a server install and  sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop  for GUI
[02:57] <ProTeus4> hello all, I am running Ubuntu breezy, and have a situation where my system root drive is only 4 gig, and I am running out of space. I have a second drive 36 gig, I would like to use a partition from it for my var/cache/ directory. woudl that be difficult?
[02:57] <odat> TraceGreen, if you do choose xubuntu
[02:57] <Kyral> or Fluxbox...
[02:57] <TraceGreen> xubuntu?
[02:57] <pashaw> TraceGreen,    oops  apt-get install   < missed that
[02:57] <Seveas> ProTeus4, no, just mount it as /var/cache :)
[02:58] <intelikey> TraceGreen you'd want to install server   the gui is a bit heavy for 64m  but it can run.
[02:58] <BraveFencerKirby> graft - excuse me if I sound like a n00b, but how the hell do you use this fastsum program thingie?
[02:58] <pashaw> TraceGreen,   yes its much smaller than gnoem or KDE
[02:58] <odat> TraceGreen, its a lightweight desktop eviroment
[02:58] <TraceGreen> ok , i will have a try.
[02:58] <Kyral> I think 64M is cutting it close for even XFCE
[02:58] <ProTeus4> Seveas: any specail fstab mounting methods, or commands - or should I just match the / settings?
[02:58] <Kyral> TraceGreen: I think you'd be better with Damn Small Linux
[02:58] <pashaw> Kyral,   kinda he only beginner choice tho
[02:58] <relampago>  checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:58] <TraceGreen> i want to run gimp actually
[02:58] <relampago> how fix this
[02:58] <relampago> ?
[02:59] <lampshade> What command is used in .xsession with exec to launch XFCE?
[02:59] <Kyral> TraceGreen: Then no way...
[02:59] <Seveas> ProTeus4, well, use the filesystemtype you put on the drive
[02:59] <Seveas> !tell relampago about compiling
[02:59] <Linfan> how come my computer usage on ubuntu goes from 5% to 88% every other second? im not getting a stable usage
[02:59] <Linfan> anyway to correct this
[02:59] <odat> TraceGreen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu
[02:59] <TraceGreen> Kyral, do you mean i can't run gimp on 64Mmemory?
[02:59] <ProTeus4> Sevas: I can match the root drive ext3 I think thanks much
[02:59] <TraceGreen> odat, thanks.
[03:00] <relampago> :/
[03:00] <odat> tr np
[03:00] <najah> hey guyz im having a problem im new to linux and i have just installed ubuntu on my laptop and cant get my wifi to work
[03:00] <pashaw> odat,    what your describing now  can be a dozen things
[03:00] <Kyral> TraceGreen: The GIMP at what I think you want to do (Photoshop level stuff) would break...
[03:00] <Kyral> or like take forever
[03:00] <intelikey> TraceGreen you won't get any satisfaction out of running ubunut and gimp on a box with 64m ram   it can be done but it will be into swap all the time...... bad idea.
[03:00] <odat> pashaw, well i would like to know where to start
[03:00] <CentHOGG> GIMP and photoshop in the same sentence.... ROTFL
[03:01] <graft> najah... oh man, there's a big headache
[03:01] <pashaw> odat,   bad cable  causing drive corruption    error in the IDE module your running      config error   bad shutdowns
[03:01] <najah> for real
[03:01] <intelikey> odat what presactly is it you have an issue with ?
[03:01] <TraceGreen> en. i know, thanks!
[03:01] <pashaw> odat,   or  drive simply going bad  for  heat   wearing out  etc
[03:01] <graft> najah, what wireless card have you got?
[03:01] <pashaw> odat,   you need to fix the corrution before  slowness
[03:02] <odat> intelikey,  the whole system is slower than it used to be    start ups are slower and each time it does the manual check after 30 start ups
[03:02] <najah> @ gaft i need it to work as i want to go linux and i need the wifi so the network at school
[03:02] <BraveFencerKirby> graft - excuse me if I sound like a n00b, but how the hell do you use this fastsum program thingie?
[03:02] <odat> pashaw, k how would i go about fixing the corruption
[03:02] <pashaw> intelikey,   odats  30 reboot check always finds errors
[03:03] <najah> i have a 802.11b/g
[03:03] <intelikey> pashaw mine does too
[03:03] <graft> BraveFencerKirby, no idea... just feed it your image file, and it should spit out an md5
[03:04] <pashaw> intelikey,   ill let you handle odat then  those arent normal items for me
[03:04] <graft> no, najah, i mean what brand
[03:04] <graft> specifically what chipset
[03:04] <najah> brb im gonna chech
[03:04] <intelikey> and seems to always put two or three '#some_number/'  in  /lost+found   but they are always blank.  empty dirs.
[03:05] <BraveFencerKirby> I'm wondering if my CD burner is screwing up the iso somehow.  Should I try using a different computer?
[03:05] <intelikey> pashaw no no.  you go ahead i was just trying to catch up so i might be able to assist
[03:05] <ProTeus4> Seveas: while I am at it, are there any other large dirs I could move that would help me recover some / space?
[03:05] <pashaw> BraveFencerKirby,   sure  and burn it  at 12x max
[03:05] <Seveas> ProTeus4, /home perhaps
[03:06] <CentHOGG> anybody here vmwaring
[03:06] <Linfan> wow apprecaite the assistance
[03:06] <wizardjames> hey
[03:06] <pashaw> intelikey,   you seem to have alot in common
[03:06] <BraveFencerKirby> Wonderful...  this means I get to download the ISO for a THIRD time.
[03:06] <pashaw> intelikey,    heading home anyway  :P
[03:06] <intelikey> k
[03:06] <intelikey> odat you do have dma enabled ?
[03:06] <ProTeus4> thanks, for the help - have a good night
[03:07] <wizardjames> is it normal for ubuntu to frezese?
[03:07] <pilgrim> Did any compile their kernel recently?
[03:07] <DRAGON_Ultra> yes/no
[03:07] <timmy_> Kyral, thanks for the link to your terminal tutorial, I am on part 4
[03:07] <david_m_e> Seveas... got a ? for you. I have a Canon Pixma ip1500 printer; I found a driver for it; the 1st command to install driver is: "deb-src http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/debian ./"; however, issuing that command results "command not found". Is the command wrong or is deb-src just not on my computer?
[03:07] <odat> intelikey, on this machine no
[03:08] <Seveas> david_m_e, that's not a command but a line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <david_m_e> ah... thank you
[03:08] <david_m_e> now, how do i do that ?
[03:08] <intelikey> odat that might help the speed of things noticably
[03:08] <david_m_e> gedit?
[03:08] <Seveas> yes
[03:08] <timmy_> Can I ask a question about updates and Dapper Drake?
[03:08] <wizardjames> no..
[03:08] <david_m_e> again, thank you
[03:08] <Kyral> Dapper....
[03:08] <relampago> bash: pw: command not found
[03:08] <relampago> why? :S
[03:08] <BraveFencerKirby> See you folks in a half hour, I guess.
[03:08] <Kyral> timmy_: not for a newbie :P
[03:09] <timmy_> will my version of Ubuntu update to Dapper Drake when it is released?
[03:09] <odat> intelikey, true however i would like to understand why it was much faster with less errors opposed to now
[03:09] <Seveas> timmy_, what's the question?
[03:09] <wizardjames> yes..
[03:09] <Kyral> timmy_: you will have to do a minor edit to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <timmy_> but I won't have to do a full install again?
[03:09] <graft> oh.. BraveFencerKirby
[03:09] <intelikey> odat yeah i'm pondering that also....   have you checked the logs for anomilies ?
[03:09] <Seveas> timmy_, with Ubuntu you will never have to do a reinstall
[03:09] <graft> don't do ANYTHING while you're burning
[03:09] <timmy_> COOL!
[03:10] <graft> don't even play solitaire
[03:10] <odat> intelikey, i wouldn't know how to do that
[03:10] <wizardjames> why would ubuntu freze?
[03:10] <CentHOGG> memory
[03:10] <graft> wizardjames, probably it's very cold
[03:10] <wizardjames> lol
[03:10] <timmy_> I have done so many things to my programs so far, I would hate to have to redo
[03:10] <wizardjames> it was doing good..
[03:11] <CentHOGG> bad ram
[03:11] <david_m_e> another question, to anyone at large: i want to bring up Firefox with a particular site everytime i boot; what is the linux equivalent to autoexec/Programs->Startup ?
[03:11] <wizardjames> CentHOGG,  the ram is good
[03:11] <CentHOGG> verified with memtest?
[03:11] <BraveFencerKirby> graft - I could make a smartass comment about whether or not I'm allowed to burn while I'm burning....  but I'm not going to.
[03:11] <wizardjames> david_m_e,  sessions..
[03:11] <intelikey> odat it may be a big list but you could start with 'sudo grep -hie'error' /var/log/* | less
[03:11] <ricardo25> list
[03:11] <timmy_> thanks for answering my question!
[03:11] <Seveas> david_m_e, system -> prefs -> sessions
[03:12] <timmy_> till next time....
[03:12] <david_m_e> thanks Seveas
[03:12] <Seveas> !seen sabdfl
[03:12] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sabdfl', Seveas
[03:12] <timmy_> you guys rock!
[03:12] <CentHOGG> :)
[03:13] <nix4me> is it possible to start using LVM without re-installing?
[03:13] <cafuego> shraaaaaaaaapnel
[03:13] <Seveas> cafuego, relax, 11 more hours until newyear :p
[03:13] <cafuego> Seveas: 10.45
[03:14] <Seveas> oh my, heat the oliebollen and chill the champagne before it's too late :)
[03:14] <intelikey> odat anything that grabs the attention in that might help.   less uses  /string  to search forword   and ?string  to search backwards   in case you are not familear with it.
[03:14] <cafuego> (Yes, my neighbours DO own a nice boat :-)
[03:15] <cafuego> Seveas: We're all out of champagne. i'm afraid it all got drunk on boxing day.
[03:15] <Seveas> tsk
[03:15] <jeori> hehe
[03:15] <kobur> I am new to using linux.  Can someone please help me?  I am trying to figure out how to install video drivers.
[03:16] <cafuego> 2 bottles of fizzy shiraz is all I have left
[03:16] <Seveas> kobur, which card?
[03:16] <kobur> Radeon 9600XT all in wonder
[03:16] <Seveas> !tell kobur about ati
[03:16] <cafuego> Isn't the 9600 supposed to work with the free drivers?
[03:17] <intelikey> is it ?
[03:17] <Seveas> it works fine for me with fglrx
[03:18] <david_m_e> another question for at-large... are there any strong opinions about the general quality of the information at www.Linux.com? (i noticed their home page did not mention UBUNTU in any way and hadn't been updated in about a year)
[03:18] <intelikey> one old nvidia agp  is all i have that needs any driver or can do any trick s...tuff
[03:18] <cafuego> david_m_e: That's an issue for whoever operates linux.com
[03:20] <intelikey> my opinions are always strong david_m_e
[03:20] <intelikey> at least others tell me they stink.....
[03:20] <intelikey> :)
[03:22] <najah_> hello nite
[03:22] <david_m_e> i'm looking for a site that is for those new to Linux and with (obviously) quality info... Linux.com's home page says it's for those new to Linux, but then thier list of good, free distributions doesnt' include UBUNTU and the general tone seemed to imply it's just a front door for sales
[03:22] <Kyral> UbuntuForums
[03:22] <nalioth> david_m_e: linux.COM  (commercial)
[03:22] <nalioth> david_m_e: try linux.org
[03:22] <david_m_e> i shall
[03:23] <CentHOGG> I heard ubuntu bought debian the other day
[03:23] <CentHOGG> like Viacom bought CBS
[03:23] <Kyral> CentHOGG: WTF?
[03:23] <nalioth> CentHOGG: are you trolling?
[03:23] <Kyral> CentHOGG: thats a GOOD ONE
[03:23] <najah_> im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!
[03:23] <Seveas> CentHOGG, lol, you read too much ELER :)
[03:23] <claviola_> hi, does anyone know if the amd64 livecd supports motherboards with the nforce4 chipset?
[03:23] <CentHOGG> calm down fanatics
[03:23] <CentHOGG> just joking
[03:24] <david_m_e> nalioth thanks; i went to linux.org once before, and apparently i didn't bookmark it;
[03:25] <Seveas> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/clique <-- CentHOGG
[03:26] <CentHOGG> hah ROTFL
[03:26] <PeteyPablo> So high Omfgx
[03:26] <najah_> can any one in here help me?
[03:26] <PeteyPablo> najah: maybe ask a question
[03:26] <intelikey> so now that ubuntu owns debian, will it go commercial ?
[03:26] <navarone> funny one Seveas
[03:27] <Sturgeon> I'm trying to make a launcher for an application in gnome desktop, but i put the command i want it to excute in the "launcher" field and when i click on the icon it does nothing
[03:27] <Sturgeon> what am i missing?
[03:27] <najah_> PetePablo, im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!
[03:27] <navarone> Sturgeon what app and comamnd?
[03:27] <najah_> *linux
[03:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell najah_ about wireless
[03:27] <PeteyPablo> nalioth: damn you
[03:28] <Sturgeon> navarone: a custom application
[03:28] <jake> i've just installed for the first time, and when i try and startx, i get two errors: errno 111 and 3, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:28] <intelikey> Sturgeon in the terminal type  'which <command> '   and then put that whole path in the laungher maybe
[03:28] <navarone> Sturgeon that tella me little...what is the application and what is the command you are putting in launcher?
[03:28] <Sturgeon> I did that
[03:29] <intelikey> Sturgeon does it run ok from the terminal ?
[03:29] <Sturgeon> navarone: You don't know the application. The command in the launcher is the full path to the executable. When i click on the launcher or right click and put "open" it does nothing though.
[03:29] <Sturgeon> intelikey: yes, it does :\
[03:29] <navarone> Sturgeon when you execute in terminal do you require full path?
[03:30] <intelikey> you can call it to run in a terminal if it needs a controlling tty/vc Sturgeon
[03:30] <intelikey> the launcher options for that
[03:30] <Sturgeon> navarone: no
[03:30] <Sturgeon> hmm ok i'll try that
[03:31] <navarone> Sturgeon...maybe launcher only needs command you would need in terminal to run...and click run in terminal...<?>
[03:31] <intelikey> run in terminal       iirc
[03:31] <ike_> ls -l
[03:31] <ike_> whoops
[03:31] <intelikey> ls -lAsh   you mean
[03:31] <jake> anyone else having trouble starting x?
[03:32] <navarone> Sturgeon...I know it is not a launcher but press alt-f2 and type terminal command and see if it works thru dialog as well
[03:32] <Agamotto> jake:  Only with the newest nVIDIA cards
[03:32] <intelikey> jake what error ?
[03:32] <najah_> PetePablo, im a new user to linex and i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my wifi doesnt work can someone help me plz!
[03:32] <jake> i have a geforce 2 so i assume that isn't old..
[03:33] <jake> isn't new rather
[03:33] <navarone> jake it is actually...I have geforce3 and it is getting up in age itself
[03:33] <Agamotto> najah_:  Go to linuxlaptops.org and see if your particular model is listed.  They have many helpfiles/cheats for specific models
[03:33] <najah_> ok thank u
[03:34] <jake> navarone: yeah i meant new :p
[03:34] <nalioth> najah_: read what ubotu sent you, please
[03:34] <jake> the errors im getting are:
[03:34] <jake> xinit: connection refused ( error 111): unable to connect to X server
[03:34] <jake> xinit: no such process ( errno 3): server error.
[03:34] <navarone> jake yeah i saw after I entered...lol
[03:34] <cafuego> jake: They're not new, but they work fine.
[03:34] <intelikey> scroll up and see what preceeds that error jake
[03:35] <najah_> nalioth ubotu does not kno wat im talkin about
[03:35] <navarone> jake...i assume you installed xserver...?
[03:35] <intelikey> that's just telling us that x didn't start so xinit couldn't
[03:35] <Agamotto> cafuego:  What is a Millennium 2?
[03:35] <jake> intelikey:i cant, im only on one machine, and booted in windows at the moment, but it was soomething about xauth making a new file
[03:35] <cafuego> Agamotto: The best linux compatible video card ever made.
[03:35] <intelikey> oh ok
[03:35] <jake> navarone: i did the defaul installation from cd
[03:36] <navarone> cafuego? Matrox?
[03:36] <cafuego> navarone: yep
[03:36] <navarone> sheesh...I had Millenium about 7 years ago...lol
[03:36] <intelikey> jake login to console  and do a  'sudo rm .*auth* '   then try 'startx '   :)
[03:36] <navarone> 4mb vram...S<>
[03:36] <cafuego> navarone: I use it in a box that usually runs headless
[03:37] <cafuego> navarone: Ha! Mine had 8!
[03:37] <cafuego> navarone: ... and it was looped into a Voodoo2 PCi card.
[03:37] <navarone> cafuego...mine was in a P166 with 80mb ram...lol
[03:37] <jake> intelikey: that exact command? or am i meant to replace *auth* with something?
[03:37] <david_m_e> cafuego did u ever get the answer to your video driver question?
[03:38] <intelikey> no  .*auth*   is inturpreted by bash  you just type as is.
[03:38] <Agamotto> Ahhhh, a Matrox Millennium.. ok, makes sense now
[03:38] <MasterWammy> im having a problem with a ITERaid PCi ide/raid card, i got the driver to compile and insert into kernel via modprobe corretly but i get these errors on the device:  sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:38] <MasterWammy> and another error, when ever anything tries to access /dev/sda it hangs
[03:39] <cafuego> navarone: Mine in a Dual P2/300 (with scsi)
[03:39] <jake> intelikey: ok, well cheers, have to reboot into ubuntu to try it, but hopefully it work
[03:39] <intelikey> jake
[03:39] <navarone> cafuego very posh...lol
[03:39] <intelikey> one other thing
[03:39] <jake> yep?
[03:40] <intelikey> if it does not work do a 'sudo - '   and try to startx   that will tell us if x can run as root or not.
[03:40] <cafuego> navarone: 't was. all of 128MB ram. That box still lives actually, though I've added ram and plonked in 2 80GB ide drives on a controller card. It runs the network at the in-laws now :-)
[03:40] <intelikey> the first should fix you tho jake
[03:40] <jake> ok, will do, think i already tried sudo startx tho..
[03:41] <jake> back in a bit then (maybe!)
[03:41] <intelikey> that command will cause you to need to    sudo rm .*auth*     jake   lol
 ok, will do, think i already tried sudo startx <--- that ^
[03:42] <jake> ok...well, lets see how it goes
[03:42] <jake> bye
[03:42] <MasterWammy> any ideas to my issue?
[03:43] <intelikey> MasterWammy i'm RAID illiterate sorry
[03:43] <oveh> anyone running starterbar, (gdesklets) ?
[03:44] <Ophiocus> !grub
[03:44] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:44] <Haukkari> !ati
[03:44] <tbw> Howdy.
[03:44] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:44] <tbw> How are you ?
[03:44] <Agamotto> MasterWhammy:  Same here, sorry
[03:45] <MasterWammy> Agamotto, got nothing to do with raid, its got to do with the stupid driver not working...bah! :/
[03:45] <globotomy> hey, anybody here have a sony vaio fs or fj? what do you think of it?
[03:45] <MasterWammy> been fighting with this thing for all week
[03:45] <ciler> both of them are *****
[03:45] <toydi> hi, i need some help
[03:46] <navarone> ask away toydi
[03:46] <ITSa341> Good evening everyone
[03:46] <navarone> hi Itsa
[03:47] <versaily> when u download sumtin via symnaptic and choose download pacakge file only where does it go?
[03:47] <globotomy> ciler: what do you recommend instead?
[03:47] <ciler> the others
[03:47] <navarone> versaily, I think you should chjeck /var/cache/apt or similar
[03:47] <tbw> I'm using ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop
[03:47] <ciler> exclude thinkpad
[03:47] <versaily> ok thx
[03:47] <tbw> With a synaptic touchpad
[03:48] <Agamotto> versaily:  /var/cache/apt or /opt, usually
[03:48] <tbw> is there anything I can do to make the mouse work better?
[03:48] <intelikey> versaily /var/cache/apt/something probably
[03:48] <kobur> Seveas Thanks for the help.  I have to reboot to see if it actually worked
[03:48] <raymond> why cant i open java after i downloaded it
[03:48] <versaily> ok
[03:48] <Agamotto> tbw:  Why not a full cybernetic synaptic interface?
[03:48] <versaily> i think i can find it
[03:48] <versaily> thx
[03:48] <ben_underscore> i have 5.10 on a thinkpad - no problems
[03:48] <Agamotto> tbw:  In what way?
[03:48] <tbw> Agamotto: well it's just a bit touchy and I can't seem to disable the touch-to-click functionality and such.
[03:48] <ben_underscore> raymond, in what way can you not open it?
[03:48] <nalioth> raymond: you need to install the java before you can use it
[03:48] <toydi> I just installed Ubuntu, but stuck in 640x480 resolution. I tried several approaches in FixVideoResoHOWTO but failed. Would you help me here, i'm new to linux :)
[03:49] <raymond> like i click on it and a error happens
[03:49] <cafuego> !javadeb
[03:49] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:49] <Agamotto> tbw: Go into System -> Prefs -> Mouse, it should all be in there
[03:49] <globotomy> i'm using an ibook g3/800 right now i'm looking to replace
[03:49] <tbw> yeah it isnt
[03:49] <navarone> toydi what vidcard are you using?
[03:49] <cafuego> Who is this Giannaros and why should we trust packages they host?
[03:49] <toydi> VIA/S3 Unichrome Intergrated Video (VT8378)
[03:50] <nalioth> cafuego: gianarros is apokryphos. and most of the packages are seveas'
[03:50] <raymond> when i download a file what typ of format dose it haft to be
[03:50] <cafuego> nalioth: his server has exceeded bandwidth
[03:50] <tbw> Agamotto: None of those options make any difference at all..
[03:50] <Agamotto> tbw:  Interesting.  I have never had that problem
[03:50] <tbw> Yeah
[03:50] <tbw> I think it's the synaptic nightmare
[03:51] <intelikey> raymond good one :)
[03:51] <ben_underscore> raymond, have you installed the sun java or the blackdown one?
[03:51] <raymond> im serius
[03:51] <cafuego> !javadeb =~ s#http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy#http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/#
[03:51] <ubotu> that doesn't contain 'http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy', cafuego
[03:51] <toydi> navarone, my VIA/S3 Unchrome is integrated on-board video card
[03:51] <intelikey> any
[03:51] <raymond> i cant figer it out
[03:51] <raymond> i tried
[03:51] <cafuego> grr
[03:51] <BraveFencerKirby> Hey, random question.  When installing Ubuntu and partitioning my hard disk, what's the difference between "erase entire disk" and "erase entire disk and use LVM"?
[03:51] <intelikey> what are you trying to dl raymond ?
[03:52] <navarone> toydi take a look at this thread and see if it looks helpful http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37025&page=3
[03:52] <tbw> I wonder what will happen if I close the lid to my laptop ;)
[03:52] <raymond> i tryed to donload java but it wont let me extract it
[03:52] <nalioth> BraveFencerKirby: lvm is for multiple physical disks you want to have appear as one volume  "logical volume manager'
[03:52] <morphix> heh. i figured out my NIC problems.. the NICS eeprom is corrupted.
[03:52] <BraveFencerKirby> Righto then, thanks nal
[03:52] <Agamotto> BraveFencerKirby:  LVM allows easier partition manipulation
[03:52] <navarone> extarct it?
[03:52] <jake> damn
[03:52] <jake> didnt work
[03:52] <ben_underscore> raymond, what does the file look like? is it a .sh file? if so, you need to run it as an executable in the terminal
[03:52] <raymond> it wont let me
[03:52] <tbw> Anyone know what I need to do to get my laptop to go to sleep when I close the lid?
[03:52] <toydi> navarone, ok thanks, i'm reading now :)
[03:53] <morphix> there is something really odd going on atm.. i cant do ANY commands all i get is
[03:53] <morphix> -bash: /sbin/hdparm: Input/output error
[03:53] <morphix> for anything i try
[03:53] <intelikey> jake no root access to x either i take it ?
[03:53] <jake> nope
[03:53] <raymond> it is a bin file
[03:53] <navarone> toydi...simple thing would be to change "vesa" to "via" in xorg.conf and see what that gets you
[03:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell raymond about java
[03:53] <nalioth> raymond: follow the instructions there
[03:53] <jake> tho i got the erro message "X: warning process set to priorty -1 instead of requested priority 0"
[03:53] <emptystapler> What are some decent non-Azureus BT clients?
[03:53] <yaaar> word
[03:54] <jake> (that was when doing sudo startx)
[03:54] <emptystapler> which have managers, etc (unlike tornado)
[03:54] <raymond> k
[03:54] <morphix> my problems have only been since i heard some 'clicking' noises from the hdd
[03:54] <thunderbolt> emptystapler: BitTornado, the 'official' bittorrent client.
[03:54] <cafuego> !javadeb
[03:54] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:54] <Agamotto> thunderbolt:  Those are neurons being tickled for the first time
[03:54] <intelikey> jake from the top, answer three questions for me,  when did you install?   did x work then ?   what have you changed that might be related to this ?
[03:54] <thunderbolt> Agamotto: lol
[03:54] <cafuego> !lart nalioth
[03:54] <emptystapler> thunderbolt: see my ammendment (I want one with a decent manager, sort of like ABC for windows -- lightweight)
[03:54] <FlannelKing> Anyone know how to get mod_rewrite to work with a web_dav Location block in apache2?
[03:55] <yaaar> anybody know why my nforce2 onboard audio doesn't make noise? everything seems cool as far as modules (alsa) loaded and mixer settings, etc.
[03:55] <jake> intelikey: eariler today, no, pretty much nothing - i had to change a link because X wasn't executable, or something
[03:55] <tbw> Howdy.
[03:55] <jake> i was going off a post in the forums
[03:55] <emptystapler> I found one called Rufus which reminds me of ABC, but all they provide is the python source which I don't have any idea how to compile
[03:55] <tbw> Anyone here using ubuntu on a laptop?
[03:56] <cafuego> tbw: I am.
[03:56] <thunderbolt> emptystapler: you don't compile python source.
[03:56] <binarydigit> me
[03:56] <intelikey> jake ok you may have to  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg     and read all the questions it asks and answer them correctly.
[03:56] <thunderbolt> emptystapler: You just run it, its a script file, python automatically compiles it if necessary.
[03:56] <tbw> cafuego: Do you know what I need to do to get it to sleep when I close the lid?
[03:56] <jake> intelikey: i did that but without -plow, what does that do?
[03:56] <emptystapler> thunderbolt: i know it's interpreted... it's compiled for the windows versions, didn't know if something similar was done for linux binaries
[03:57] <thunderbolt> Interesting, link?
[03:57] <epq2> whats a very fast web browser that supports flash?
[03:57] <intelikey> sets the priority of questions to low    p low
[03:57] <cafuego> tbw: Nope.
[03:57] <tbw> bah
[03:57] <tbw> What happens when you close your lid?
[03:57] <intelikey> jake what link did   you change ?
[03:57] <jake> does that mean there will be less questions or more?
[03:57] <intelikey> more
[03:58] <morphix> there is something truly screwed
[03:58] <morphix> i cant even shutdown
[03:58] <morphix> -bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error
[03:58] <morphix> :
[03:58] <intelikey> a question with lower priority gets asked along with the questions of higher p
[03:58] <morphix> :|*
[03:58] <Agamotto> morphix:  very odd
[03:58] <morphix> could this be caused from a failed hdd?
[03:58] <morphix> cause the hdd was clicking majorly earlier
[03:58] <hacim> I'm having problems getting a media player working -- rhythmbox/amarok all play the mp3, but no volume
[03:59] <jake> intelikey: i did sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[03:59] <jake> im just trying to find the forum post i got that from
[03:59] <Agamotto> morphix:  It could be suffering a stuttering death, yes
[03:59] <epq2> whats a very speedy web browser?
[03:59] <hacim> epq2: elinks
[03:59] <morphix> feck.
[03:59] <epq2> is it visual?
[03:59] <navarone> epq2, Opera, Firefox
[03:59] <thunderbolt> grr
[03:59] <hacim> epq2: its text
[03:59] <thunderbolt> Stupid automake, how dare you give me errors!
[03:59] <Agamotto> morphix:  CLICKING???? Turn the thing off now, and I hope you have a recent backup!
[03:59] <epq2> navarone firefox = slow.
[03:59] <morphix> nope :(
[04:00] <hacim> epq2: galeon?
[04:00] <navarone> epq2, then try Opera
[04:00] <yaaar> guys, is it a bit weird for me to have 2 audio controllers in my lspci listing? check this out:
[04:00] <Agamotto> epq2:  Not if you turn off the ipv6 bits
[04:00] <epq2> k will try opera and galleon
[04:00] <yaaar> 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B]  (rev a2)
[04:00] <yaaar> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[04:00] <hacim> I get no audio at all
[04:00] <athlon> what should I use to extract audio from an xvid file ?
[04:00] <epq2> Agamotto in settings?
[04:00] <intelikey> jake i don't have sorg on this box so i can't congirm that,  but you should also  do a   ls -l /etc/X11/X  when you get in linux again.  to confirm the link.
[04:00] <Agamotto> morphix:  You seriously need to quit using this hd now, and don't use it again until you try cloning it to a fresh one
[04:01] <intelikey> err xorg
[04:01] <navarone> epq2, there is epiphany as well...but I don't know how much it supports as far as plugins and such
[04:01] <morphix> yeh i just manually switched the pc off
[04:01] <Agamotto> epq2:  Enter about:config, and search for ipv6
[04:01] <jake> intelikey, i think i did that already
[04:01] <morphix> lets hope i can recover the data still
[04:01] <jake> (i have a piece of paper with all the commands i put in, and thats on there)
[04:02] <Agamotto> morphix:  Offer a few novenas to St. Lucius
[04:02] <_root_> !nvidia
[04:02] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:02] <intelikey> never hurts to dubble check.  and also   ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg  or where ever it points
[04:02] <navarone> Agamotto, I would think St. Anthony would bea  better chance
[04:02] <epq2> Agamotto, what?
[04:02] <thunderbolt> emptystapler: It doesn't look like Rufus has any sourcecode in it, just install wxPython and try running it with 'python rufus.py' at a command prompt.
[04:03] <intelikey> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           27 Dec  4 06:39 /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3
[04:03] <emptystapler> thunderbolt: i will give it a whirl in a few
[04:03] <wizardjames> is it true if i press alt+h   (or is it ctrl..) that folders will go unhiddin for a sec?
[04:03] <thunderbolt> by sourcecode, I mean C/C++ code that needs to be compiled.
[04:03] <emptystapler> are there no GTK based BT clients?
[04:03] <Agamotto> St. Anthony is it?  Ok, I lost track after St. Prada replaced St. Christopher :)
[04:03] <navarone> St. Anthony is for hopeless cases...don't ask how I know...<s>
[04:04] <tbw> Anyone here use RthymnBox?
[04:04] <tbw> It's telling me none of my mp3's are valid audio streams...
[04:04] <crimsun> tbw: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[04:04] <intelikey> jake may i encourage you to be patient, you are probably at the most stressful part of any installation.   :)    it gets better
[04:04] <tbw> Is that an extra step?
[04:04] <tbw> Cuz if So, I didn't do it ;)
[04:04] <thunderbolt> emptystapler: mldonkey-gui *seems* to be, although it is more than just a BT client.
[04:05] <jake> intelikey: yeah, im not too fussed, i just don't know what i'm doing!
[04:05] <navarone> jake how far along are you in install?
[04:05] <jake> do you reckon a full resintall would help, or should i spend time trying to fix it?
[04:05] <jake> navarone: fully installed, but cant startx
[04:05] <intelikey> you didn't master 'that other os' in a week either
[04:05] <emptystapler> perhaps more importantly: the only video sink/source settings i can get to display video without failing to "construct a pipeline" are SDL/Test Input. is this normal?
[04:05] <emptystapler> i am using the latest proprietary ATI drivers on a radeon 9600xt
[04:05] <tbw> hrm
[04:06] <tbw> It won't let me install it
[04:06] <tbw> because I don't repositories added right or something?
[04:06] <intelikey> jake probably try the reconfig first.  maybe two or three times even   changing things each time.
[04:06] <jake> thats the dpkg-reconfigure right?
[04:06] <intelikey> "even a biind hog will find an acorn, every now and then'
[04:07] <jake> i assumed that would be more hardware related, and that even if i didnt get that right x would start, it just wouldnt work properly
[04:07] <intelikey> right
[04:07] <intelikey> no no.  if that is not right x wont start.
[04:07] <jake> ah ok
[04:07] <jake> well i guess ill have one more go at that and then go to bed
[04:07] <jake> thanks a lot for all your help1
[04:08] <intelikey> k luck to ya
[04:08] <vbgunz> firefox
[04:08] <vbgunz> !firefox
[04:08] <ubotu> well, firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[04:08] <vbgunz> !firefox 1.5
[04:08] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, vbgunz
[04:09] <tbw> Anyone know if there are repositories I need to add after a base install to be able to install everything I need?
[04:09] <navarone> tbw...I can  get Rythmbox to play mp3s if I have System/Pref/Multimedia Selector set to alsa as both input and output sources...if I have it as esd and oss it just cycles thru library not playing any file
[04:10] <tbw> navarone: I'm not even to that point yet ;)
[04:10] <tbw> navarone: I can't even get the gstreamer mpeg decoder installed due to a repository issue
[04:12] <navarone> tbw ok :0
[04:12] <tbw> I just changed to multiverse
[04:12] <tbw> I hope that's not like unstable
[04:12] <tbw> I'll be sad
[04:13] <nalioth> tbw: it's not unstable, just patent encumbered
[04:13] <toydi> hi, i just tried the fixVideoResolutionHOWTO, when i restart (ATL-CTRL-Backspace) X, it failed to restart. I'm using VIA/S3 Unchrome on-board card now.
[04:14] <tritium> toydi: did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors?
[04:14] <toydi> tritium, i'm new to linux. yes, i read but don't really understand, would u help me?
[04:14] <tbw> nalioth: make rthymnbox work ;)
[04:15] <nalioth> tbw: /msg ubotu mp3
[04:16] <tritium> toydi: sure.
[04:16] <tbw> nalioth, : How about making the laptop sleep when I close the lid?
[04:16] <nalioth> tbw: that is hardware dependent
[04:17] <tbw> nalioth, : What do you mean? Either it works, or it doesn't?
[04:17] <nalioth> tbw: something like that, yes
[04:18] <tbw> nalioth: well that sucks, works great under windows.
[04:18] <KyKo> VLC is giving me no DVD audio... but I can play a CD from my DVD drive using CD Player.  If I get xine will audio work?
[04:18] <MarcN> tbw: different BIOS work better than others.  hardware dependant.
[04:19] <Agamotto> KyKo:  You most likely need the libdvdcss2 library
[04:19] <epp> how would i make esd run on startup?
[04:19] <KyKo> Oh I have it.  I get DVD video.
[04:19] <KyKo> Just lacking Mr. Audio.
[04:20] <KyKo> I'm pretty sure it's on VLC in that I don't get CD audio either through it... yet the program acts as though it is playing.
[04:20] <epp> KyKo... mpg321?
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epp about sound
[04:20] <Agamotto> KyKo:  Go into the sound settings, and turn off the sound server startup box
[04:20] <epp> nalioth... whats the files that i add esd to?
[04:20] <nalioth> epp: i'm not sure, read the bots info
[04:21] <yves---> Hi bros. Got a prob: phpmyadmin won't uninstall. Got a clue?
[04:21] <nickrud> epp, system->preferences->sound, and tick enable sound server startup
[04:21] <KyKo> Agamotto, sound settings of... vlc?
[04:21] <MarcN> yves---: what is the error message?
[04:22] <kalin> help please
[04:22] <surface> who use firestarter here?
[04:22] <Agamotto> KyKo:  No, master sound settings, under preferences
[04:22] <yves---> MarcN, oups
[04:22] <KyKo> Ah okay I found her.
[04:22] <yves---> MarcN, b back in a sec...
[04:22] <kalin> i'm not allowed to copy a plugin within mozilla
[04:23] <KyKo> Alright I turned it off.  Now try playing a DVD?  Or reboot?
[04:24] <KyKo> Agamotto, you did it!
[04:24] <KyKo> Thanks buddy.
[04:24] <yves---> MarcN, outpu error 127
[04:24] <yves---> MarcN, output error 127
[04:24] <KyKo> I got Lost Season 1 on DVD for Xmas.
[04:24] <KyKo> Now I can watch it.
[04:24] <MarcN> yves---: sudo apt-get remove phpmyadmin just error 127?
[04:24] <kalin> could anybody tell me how to add a plugin to mozilla if i'm not allowed to do it?
[04:25] <navarone> Kyko..are you in Canada by chance?
[04:25] <KyKo> Michigan
[04:25] <KyKo> navarone
[04:25] <yves---> MarcN, used synaptic. will try console apt-get now
[04:25] <navarone> okie...close enuff...;)
[04:25] <trineo> hello all
[04:25] <KyKo> Why do you inquire?
[04:25] <trineo> i just downloaded the drapper
[04:26] <navarone> Kyko...I thought I recognized the accent
[04:26] <trineo> and i am not able to boot to the new kernel 2.6.15
[04:26] <trineo> but can use drapper with old kernel.
[04:26] <KyKo> Ha my text has an accent?
[04:26] <trineo> what might be problem ?
[04:26] <MarcN> trineo: I; running that too
[04:26] <trineo> MarcN: ?
[04:26] <navarone> Kyko...was your use of "buddy" and "her" thought yuou were from east coast
[04:26] <KyKo> Ah.
[04:26] <KyKo> You're quite the linguistics expert.
[04:27] <MarcN> trineo: not an old kernel, just dapper updated to current.
[04:27] <jpfarias> how do I fix the translations after intalling ubuntu?
[04:27] <yves---> MarcN, here we go: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:27] <trineo> MarcN: works for you ?
[04:27] <kalin> hey is there a gangsta's who can help me?
[04:27] <trineo> what i did was an upgrade
[04:27] <kalin> hehe
[04:27] <jpfarias> the gnome panel is not translated, but the menus under it are
[04:27] <trineo> and it doenst boot to new kernel
[04:27] <jpfarias> well, not all menus, but most of them
[04:27] <MarcN> trineo: the only problem I have with dapper is getting dual head display to work.  Probably a matter of fixing xorg.conf
[04:27] <KyKo> Well I have hours and hours of LOST to watch.
[04:27] <KyKo> Peace
[04:28] <yves---> MarcN,  pre-removal script returned an output error 127
[04:28] <kalin> i need to copy a plugin to mozilla but i'm not authorized =(
[04:28] <MarcN> trineo: using 2.6.whatever on a laptop with wifi, etc
[04:28] <trineo> MarcN: hmm.
[04:28] <Canoeingkidd> yo
[04:28] <kalin> tu
[04:28] <kalin> el
[04:29] <Canoeingkidd> what
[04:29] <jpfarias> hello?
[04:29] <MarcN> yves---: could be a broken uninstall script.   Easiest way to disable phpmyadmin is to move the directory under /var/www/
[04:29] <FlannelKing> Anyone know how to get mod_rewrite to work with a web_dav Location block in apache2?
[04:29] <MarcN> yves---: you should file a bug report too
[04:29] <tbw> nalioth, : I followed the directions, but it dies saying that libid3tag0 and libmad cannot be installed.
[04:30] <kalin> wher is pashaw?
[04:30] <Yon> !nvidea
[04:30] <ubotu> Yon: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:30] <Yon> !nvidia
[04:30] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:31] <Gom> o
[04:31] <nalioth> tbw: what platform are you using?
[04:31] <trineo> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:31] <tbw> nalioth, : i386
[04:31] <trineo>   cupsys gnome-cups-manager linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:31] <trineo> can i know why this is the reason ?
[04:31] <MarcN> trineo: some dependencies not yet available.  Wait a few days...
[04:31] <yves---> MarcN,  I will report.  I also just noticed that the package is broken; need to reinstall mysql-server... ah god...
[04:31] <nalioth> tbw: using only official repos? no foreign packages?
[04:32] <trineo> MarcN: oh okay :)
[04:32] <tbw> nalioth, : yep...base install 2 hours ago
[04:32] <MarcN> yves---: why reinstall?
[04:32] <nalioth> tbw: enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[04:32] <tbw> nalioth, : YEs, per the instructions
[04:32] <kalin> can i add a plug in to mozilla? how is it possible if i'm not admin?
[04:32] <nalioth> tbw: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:33] <nalioth> kalin: put it in /home/kalin/.mozilla/plugins
[04:33] <kalin> to put what? the plugin?
[04:34] <kalin> nalioh the plug in?
[04:34] <nalioth> kalin: yes the plugin
[04:34] <kalin> nalioh, but mozilla is in another dir
[04:35] <kalin> mozilla is within usr/lib
[04:35] <nalioth> kalin: all of your gecko based browsers read the mozilla directory
[04:35] <nalioth> kalin: your settings are in /home/kalin/.mozilla
[04:35] <kalin> really?
[04:35] <AnonymousHive> http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[04:35] <kalin> oh i see
[04:36] <morphix> :(
[04:36] <kalin> wait me please
[04:36] <yves---> MarcN,  I've been trying to install a Joomla (Mambo) portal on my apache server.  It needs MySql support and php.  Can't get it right :o(
[04:36] <yves---> MarcN,  ... So I've been installing and uninstalling, and so forth. Ya know the drill.
[04:37] <rcarrera> Hola, buenas noches
[04:37] <tritium> !es
[04:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:37] <MarcN> yves---: sudo apt-get install mysql-server php4-mysql should do it I would think.
[04:38] <cafuego> Seveas: Still awake?
[04:38] <Eleaf> I can't get the livecd to connect to the network..
[04:38] <Eleaf> hellppp
[04:38] <yves---> MarcN,  ... K I will
[04:39] <kalin> nalioth, nop there are only desktop and music within my home directory
[04:39] <MarcN> yves---: you probably want mysql-client too and php-db and some others.
[04:39] <kalin> nalioh, there isn't mozilla
[04:39] <nalioth> kalin: all files beginning with a DOT  "." are invisible
[04:40] <nalioth> kalin: put the plugins in /home/kalin/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:40] <yves---> MarcN,  ... am taking notes :o)
[04:40] <can-o-worms> cdroms get automounted when you put them in the drive in breezy right?
[04:40] <kalin> nalioth, how can i do that?
[04:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kalin about cli
[04:41] <Agamotto> can-o-worms:  usually, yes
[04:41] <can-o-worms> Agamotto: thanks... and you should get an icon on the desktop?
[04:42] <kalin> well thanks nalioth i'm gonna check that page