[06:27] <acerimmer> idarkside: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8206546/undefined-symbol-sslv2-method
[06:28] <acerimmer> idarkside: The Ubuntu people build OpenSSL without SSLv2 support because the protocol has known security issues. So that's why you can't find SSLv2_method in their library even though you can find it when you compile the library yourself.
[06:28] <urlin2u> been droped from ubuntu
[06:28] <idarkside> yeah i know
[06:29] <idarkside> but i need it for a mcrypto lib in python
[06:29] <urlin2u> idarkside, you might try ##linux
[06:29] <goddard> almoxarife: permission warning
[06:29] <goddard> allow or deny
[06:29] <almoxarife> goddard: for what ?
[06:29] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: can you see the login screen besides the virtualkeyboard?
[06:30] <idarkside> ill try ty
[06:30] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yes i can click the username but i can\t type a letter in the password
[06:30] <sqeeKEY> exit
[06:30] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: can you see the top bar?
[06:31] <mikeliss> Anybody have experience with ndiswrapper? I installed a driver successfully on my laptop as a test, but repeating the process on my desktop is failing.
[06:31] <almoxarife> goddard: for what ? what are we talking about?
[06:31] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  theres no top bar on lucid login screen
[06:31] <mikeliss> The driver shows up and is installed correctly when I run ndiswrapper -l, but no wireless networks are listed in Ubuntu's wireless thing in the upper right corner.
[06:32] <mikeliss> Would LOVE some help -- this is my dev machine, and I need to get back to work on it.
[06:32] <Jimu_> oh. darn. this looks promising, though, scriptwarlock : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316172
[06:33] <almoxarife> mikeliss: did you reboot?
[06:33] <mikeliss> almoxarife: Indeed.
[06:33] <bazhang> mikeliss, whats the chipset
[06:33] <North> While installing the google Chrome, I got the error message that . "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:libasound2"
[06:33] <mikeliss> bazhang: Not sure...how do I check?
[06:34] <North> what should I do?
[06:34] <bazhang> mikeliss, usb or internal?
[06:34] <almoxarife> mikeliss: would you share /var/log/syslog
[06:34] <mikeliss> bazhang: usb
[06:34] <bazhang> mikeliss, lsusb with the card plugged in should show it
[06:35] <mikeliss> almoxarife: easier said than done, the computer has no internet...
[06:35] <almoxarife> mikeliss: got you
[06:36] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow sudo rm gnome-mag.desktop -- this one?
[06:36] <mikeliss> bazhang: Hrm...doing lsusb freezes when it tries to get the device's info...
[06:36] <almoxarife> mikeliss: how about the 'lsusb' does it show the wifi usb?
[06:37] <mikeliss> almoxarife, bazhang: it does show the model when I run just lsusb, but not the chipset, so I ran lsusb -vv, and it's now frozen.
[06:37] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: no, the part 'sudo dpkg -P gnome-orca' and 'sudo dpkg -P gnome-mag' <-- maybe only the second is important
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  i can't even launch the safe mode and terminal theres no way i can type that
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  but i was on the live cd now and saw that file
[06:38] <Jimu_> if you press Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[06:39] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yes no terminal
[06:39] <almoxarife> mikeliss: try -v -V
[06:39] <Jimu_> i run Ubuntu 11.10 from VirtualBox, and at login I can type Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get console
[06:39] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  good for you but not in my case
[06:39] <mikeliss> almoxarife: lsusb (usbutils) 001
[06:40] <Jimu_> can you use dpkg from a live CD?
[06:40] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  well as i have said i have now seen this two files in /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow thru live cd
[06:40] <Jimu_> seems like it wouldn't work right
[06:41] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  i need to confirm if this is safe to delete the "gnome-mag.desktop" and "orca-screen-reader.desktop"
[06:42] <skorket> I've just installed natty (11.04) and I'm having switching focus to another window with the keyboard shortcut 'alt-tab'.  I have 'focus on mouse-over' and of course 'alt-tab' to switch between windows.  Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[06:42] <Jimu_> well, you've got a live CD so almost everything is 'safe', but i'd suggest renaming them with an obscure ending rather than deleting them
[06:42] <skorket> sorry, I'm having *trouble* switching focus
[06:42] <Jimu_> like 'orca-screen-reader.desktop.old'
[06:43] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: ok let me try that one and be back
[06:43] <banseljaj> Hi. I keep getting a java headless exception error whenever i try java apps. what seems to be the problem?
[06:43] <hydrox24> skorket: alt-tab switches to a different program, alt-"~" switches amongst the multiple windows of a single program
[06:43] <samurai2> hi anyone know how to do scheduling running java program in ubuntu? thanks
[06:44] <skorket> hydrox24.  ok.  I would like to switch focus to another program
[06:44] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: be right back
[06:44] <Jimu_> k
[06:44] <hydrox24> skorket: I was simply wondering if you weren't aware of the 'feature' I am not sure  I am able to help beyond that.
[06:44] <skorket> hydrox24, no, I was not, thank you
[06:44] <hydrox24> skorket: make sure you hold down alt and "tap" the tab key
[06:45] <hydrox24> samurai2: you mean like run a jave app every so often?
[06:45] <samurai2> hydrox24 : yeah like that. :)
[06:45] <skorket> hydrox24, ah, I see, it's just really slow.  I expect it to be too responsive.  If I slow down, it eventually switches.  weird.  Anyway to speed that up?
[06:46] <hydrox24> skorket: your using unity (the default) yes?
[06:46] <skorket> hydrox24, I haven't altered anything so I assume I'm using the default
[06:46] <hydrox24> !cron | samurai2
[06:47] <samurai2> cron? it's that like a apache zookeeper?
[06:47] <hydrox24> skorket: I seitched to using gnome-shell (gnome3) as I found unity a little too slow/laggy. I wouldn't recommend the process of changing Window Managers to newcomers though.
[06:47] <mikeliss> bazhang: almoxarife: I got lsusb -vv to run finally...still don't see the chipset though.
[06:47] <hydrox24> samurai2: not sure what apache zookeeper is but it basically runs a command on a set schedule
[06:48] <skorket> hydrox24, thanks
[06:48] <hydrox24> samurai2: if you can run the java app from the command line then cron is the way to go.
[06:48] <samurai2> ic. thanks :)
[06:49] <hydrox24> mikeliss: try lshw
[06:49] <hydrox24> mikeliss: It's unlikely, but you never know eh ;)
[06:50] <banseljaj> Hi. I keep getting a java headless exception error whenever i try java apps. what seems to be the problem?
[06:51] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No luck.
[06:51] <hydrox24> banseljaj: Since we didn't answer the first time, it means that we don't know. Please come back in atleast an hour when there will be different people in here or try other channels/forums
[06:51] <hydrox24> mikeliss: no sure sorry, what model is it? (Make, Model etc.)
[06:51] <banseljaj> hydrox24, I apologize.
[06:51] <mikeliss> It's a Belkin N600 DB
[06:52] <hydrox24> banseljaj: that's ok :)
[06:52] <mikeliss> hydrox24: ^^
[06:52] <hydrox24> mikeliss: kk, brb
[06:52] <mikeliss> hydrox24: This is probably a better term to search by: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Belkin_F9L1101v1
[06:52] <hydrox24> mikeliss: wait... it's a full-on router... not just a USB wifi card?
[06:53] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Those steps worked on my laptop.
[06:53] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774680 mikeliss this?
[06:53] <hydrox24> so.. the problem is solved?
[06:53] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No, apparently n600 is a rather abused model number at Belkin. That model number is either a router or a USB thing.
[06:54] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No, it worked on my laptop, but not my desktop. The laptop was more or less a testing ground, since it has Internet.
[06:55] <hydrox24> mikeliss: is your laptop on the same version of ubuntu?
[06:55] <mikeliss> bazhang: Yup.
[06:55] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Yup.
[06:55] <hydrox24> does it give you any errors when selecting the driver?
[06:55] <mikeliss> bazhang: Sorry, that yup was meant for hydrox24 - the link you posted isn't right. I have the USB thing, not the router.
[06:56] <mikeliss> hydrox24: None I've found in syslog or when I run ndiswrapper -i in the terminal
[06:56] <hydrox24> mikeliss: it's just silent then doesn't workC?
[06:56] <hydrox24> mikeliss: it's just silent then doesn't work?
[06:57] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Seems as if. I just don't see it popping up in my network thing in the upper right corner like it did on my laptop. Otherwise everything seemed to go smoothly.
[06:57] <hydrox24> mikeliss: OK, so can you see if it is listed under "ifconfig -a"
[06:58] <hydrox24> will be called wlan0/1 or something
[06:58] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No luck there. I have eth0 and lo, but that's it.
[06:58] <hydrox24> hmmm
[06:59] <hydrox24> mikeliss: is it by chance that the laptop is 32bit and the desktop 64?
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: yeah, actually, that's a good point.
[07:00] <hydrox24> mikeliss: that's you issue right there.
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: sounds like a hell of a good lead, yeah.
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Any ideas how to make it work?
[07:01] <hydrox24> mikeliss: not right now, but someone mentions using it on 64-bit and having lsusb crash ;)
[07:02] <mikeliss> hydrox24: sounds familiar, eh?
[07:02] <A_J> my gui is not loaded correctly, the top navigation bars are missing can someone help me. looking for the restart command of the gui
[07:03] <mikeliss> hydrox24: You have any knowledge of how to find a replacement one that will work? This is already my second one with no luck. I could use a PCI card as well, if they work better?
[07:03] <hydrox24> A_J: try going to terminal (ctrl-alt-1) then log in
[07:03] <hydrox24> A_J: after that type in "sudo service gdm restart"
[07:04] <dejavu> xubuntu kullanan herkese selam
[07:04] <hydrox24> mikeliss: what country do you live in?
[07:04] <mikeliss> hydrox24: USA
[07:04] <hydrox24> dejavu: this is the english channel, sorry. Try #ubuntu-XX replacing XX with you rlanguage code
[07:04] <A_J> nop, it did not work
[07:04] <A_J> started the samw way
[07:05] <A_J> same*
[07:05] <hydrox24> mikeliss: oh, I have one that works out-of-the-box but I can't really mail it to the USA
[07:05] <hydrox24> A_J: so you don't want to restart... you want to *reset*
[07:05] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Well, I'm looking for dual band also...
[07:05] <hydrox24> mikeliss: I'm in Aus ya see.
[07:05] <A_J> yes hydrox24. i'm using xfce, and by default it boots into it like this
[07:05] <A_J> broken
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: u there?
[07:06] <hydrox24> A_J: well, I am happy to help, but the fols over at the xfce channel will be far more knowledgable.
[07:06] <hydrox24> brb
[07:06] <A_J> hydrox24: okie. ty
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> bahzang: u there?
[07:08] <scriptwarlock> anyone knows how to disable or hide the accessibility on login screen in ubuntu 10.04
[07:13] <A_J> How can i get the pc to login into two user accounts at startup and keep one in the background
[07:13] <acerimmer> A_J: login, switch users, login
[07:14] <A_J> acerimmer: yes thats the normal way. any other auto way
[07:14] <A_J> say a autologin script
[07:15] <s1n4> hey, how can I add more desktop ?
[07:16] <acerimmer> s1n4: what?
[07:16] <A_J> s1n4: buy new ones
[07:16] <eigar> Anyone know how to prevent lag on end of files using pulseaudio + mpg123, play, mplayer, etc.
[07:16] <s1n4> bullshit
[07:16] <acerimmer> !language|s1n4
[07:17] <amusselm> So.... I'm noticing some odd behavior from a particular package
[07:17] <s1n4> acerimmer, stfu
[07:17] <acerimmer> !ops|s1n4
[07:18] <almoxarife> eigar: explain 'lag at end'
[07:19] <ritz> stokachu_,  hey
[07:19] <ritz> arges, hey
[07:20] <eigar> almoxarife: i suspect it has something to do with drainage, (or what it is called), based on how these apps use the sound system. Have looked at mplayer a bit and at end of file pulseaudio keep checking for data lasting for up to 1-2 seconds. This creates lag/sielnce at end.
[07:21] <orvar> is there something like rc.local that runs more often?
[07:21] <eigar> if I use the -cache in mpg123 this is solved, but then the file is "cutted of" not whole file is played.
[07:21] <orvar> like when waing from hibernate and suspension
[07:21] <almoxarife> eigar: i was about to say 'cache'
[07:22] <mehrdad> ha anyone noticed that changing dirs doesn
[07:22] <mehrdad> ha anyone noticed that changing dirs doesn't update the title bar? *
[07:23] <eigar> almoxarife: I have a list of (very short) mp3's only one word pr file. If I use cache ie "undervalue" becomes "underval"
[07:23] <mehrdad> the title remains the same as the first dir
[07:23] <almoxarife> eigar: i use the combination you brought up, i cant say i notice the lag
[07:23] <azured> hi! hows everybody doing? :)
[07:23] <ritz> mehrdad, now that you mention this, yes.
[07:24] <mehrdad> i mean, this is basic ui expectations right?
[07:24] <ritz> mehrdad, title in global menu is not updated
[07:24] <eigar> almoxarife: The file is here: http://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/undervalue.mp3
[07:25] <ritz> mehrdad, are we talking about global menu ?
[07:26] <panyan> quit
[07:26] <UidX> hi
[07:26] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" when i tried to change my username vim passwd. so whats next? any pointers?
[07:26] <UidX> whoa this channel is crouded indeed
[07:27] <smw> UidX, yep
[07:27] <smw> UidX, this may be one of the most populated channels on freenode
[07:27] <almoxarife> eigar: not sure what you expected me to hear, i hear the word,
[07:29] <eigar> almoxarife: this is perhaps showing it more: http://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/wise.mp3 , When I play it without the cache option it is "wise", when i use cache it becomes "w"
[07:29] <eigar> almoxarife: but, then again, it's perhaps only here
[07:30] <hydrox24> mikeliss: you there still?
[07:33] <almoxarife> eigar: are you giving -cache a value?
[07:34] <hydrox24> almoxarife: Just a note on eigar issue, I had the same problem with VLC for a while, meaning that it is possibly the underlying system?
[07:34] <eigar> almoxarife: yes, were talking about mpg123 right? I have tested with everythign from mpg123 -cache 1 to 1024 to 26000 etc
[07:34] <eigar> err. -b
[07:35] <ritz> eigar, sorry, late to the party. which app is this ? which audio card ? are you using pulseaudio ?
[07:35] <hydrox24> ritz: mpg123 is the app
[07:35] <hydrox24> ritz: probably safe to assume that he's using pulseaudios
[07:35] <Learner> hi, looking for help, is there a way i can install the "galaxy" changing wallpaper from 11.04 to 11.10.? thanks in advance
[07:36] <UidX> can anyone help me with MySQL query?
[07:36] <almoxarife> eigar: sorry, no i am using mplayer for playback,
[07:36] <eigar> ritz: yes, mpg123, mplayer etc. And using pulseaudio,
[07:36] <ritz> eigar, out of curiosity,  does uninstall pulseaudio help her ? do we see any logs from pa in syslog ?
[07:36] <coolstar-ipod> Learner: you can copy it from 11.04's /usr/share/backgrounds
[07:36] <ritz> s/uninstall/uninstalling
[07:36] <ritz> s/her/here
[07:36]  * ritz needs a new keyboard
[07:36] <UidX> lol
[07:37] <almoxarife> eigar: and not sure if it makes a diff but i dont have pulseaudio installed
[07:37] <tellers> I found on a Wiki entry that what a well-connected young man did was rewritten to make him out as the victim.
[07:37] <UidX> aww i hate mysql
[07:37] <Learner> hmmm.. do you know where can i get the file? i unsitalled tellers 11.04 alrready : (, thank you!
[07:37] <tellers> It has been like this for months on end.
[07:37] <tellers> Talka bout corruption.
[07:37] <UidX> im trying to add a colomn in a table and how do i deal with this row which has auto_increment enabled
[07:37] <eigar> almoxarife: with pure alsa or jack I do not have the problem.
[07:38] <joshwines> UidX: you shouldn't have to include the auto-increment column in the INSERT query
[07:38] <eigar> and the problem is with mplayer as well
[07:38] <ritz> eigar, if I understand this correctly, this is an issue with pa
[07:38] <eigar> ritz: yes
[07:38] <ritz> eigar, which audio card are you using ?
[07:38] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" after vim namechange
[07:39] <Ben64> eigar: I always remove pulseaudio on my computers
[07:39] <almoxarife> eigar: one of the perks of moving to plasma-desktop was tossing pulseaudio
[07:39] <eigar> ritz: currently a hdmi thisngy. Have tested with a couple of others to.
[07:39] <ritz> eigar, high cpu load ? did you try http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems#Playback_problems.2C_crackling_or_skipping ?
[07:39] <UidX> joshwines: then do i have to do like "insert into whatevertable values(, something, something)" ?
[07:39] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" after vim namechange. cant access super user!
[07:40] <Ben64> !details | azured
[07:40] <ritz> eigar, okay, this is limited to hdmi o/p, and not an issue with internal speaker/jack o/p ?
[07:40] <joshwines> UidX: INSERT INTO xxTable (column1, column2) VALUES (value1, value2)
[07:40] <azured> ubottu: ok
[07:41] <chinosuke> how to find the package name given the config file?
[07:41] <almoxarife> eigar: can mpg bypass pulse for what you are trying to do?
[07:41] <UidX> oh thanks!
[07:41] <UidX> i really appreciate your help :D
[07:41] <iceroot> chinosuke: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[07:41] <chinosuke> thanks :)
[07:42] <hydrox24> mikeliss: you there still?
[07:42] <joshwines> UidX: No problems, there is a #mysql channel where you'd probably get more help too
[07:43] <ritz> eigar, have you tried this http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/CannedResponses ?
[07:43] <eigar> it seems like the problem not lays with the HW but how pulseaudio works. The philosophy of mplayer is very different from the one in pulseaudio. mplayer opens a sink with pulseaudio and deliver part by part to pulseaudio. When the file end mplayer stops delivering data (obviously) but pulseaudio keeps looking for data to see if there's any more coming.
[07:43] <ritz> eigar, try running pa under debug mode
[07:43] <ritz> $ pulseaudio -vvv
[07:44] <azured> i run Mint 11, when i terminal type sudo i get:' sudo: unknown uid: 1000'. this happened now after i as root vimchanged passwd, the name of my regular user
[07:44] <iceroot> !mint | azured
[07:44] <bug> my ubuntu 11.10, run into a java debug issue: localhost: JDWP exit error AGENT_ERROR_TRANSPORT_INIT(197):
[07:44] <bug> any one has solved it?
[07:44] <azured> ok thx
[07:45] <bug> please help, I have fixed my /etc/hosts file to make localhost resolve correctly
[07:45] <eigar> ritz: yes, i have done so. I have alos hacked in the code of pulseqaudio, recompiled and hacked in mplayer code to log what is happening. The problem is partially described above. Pulseaudio philosopy: 1. Open ana audio stream 2. deliver song after song to this stream. Mplayer: 1. Open an audio stream 2. deliver 1 track. 3. close audio stream 4. open new deliver next.
[07:46] <ritz> eigar, interesting. pa does not see the close stream request
[07:47] <eigar> ritz: yes, even after close is sent it keeps checking for data. This kreates the lag/pause/silence between tracks.
[07:47] <ritz> eigar, in your setup, mplayer->pa->alsa ( with pa plugin ) ?
[07:47] <ritz> odd, try a smaller buffer - http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/LatencyControl ?
[07:48] <nc__> Hey guys! I am trying to install Samba4 on Lubuntu 11.10 but I get this error: E: samba4: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 - Does anyone know what it means? :o
[07:48] <eigar> ritz: ok. I'll check some more. Now I have to send an urgent e-mail. For now. Thanks.
[07:48] <ritz> eigar, :)
[07:52] <saucer_eyes> Anyone here that can help me fix my sound? It plays through my headphones, just not speakers.
[07:54] <hydrox24> nc__: That is a rather dull error and is not very verbose, I will check possible problems but it may require significant debugging.
[07:55] <hydrox24> nc__: are you installing it using apt-get?
[07:55] <nc__> hydrox24: Yep
[07:56] <hydrox24> nc__: what command did you use (word for word) to try installing samba?
[07:57] <nc__> hydrox24: sudo apt-get install samba4 - I did try installing it using synaptic first though, then I uninstalled it and tried it via apt-get
[07:57] <hydrox24> nc__: ok, so can you run the command:
[07:58] <hydrox24> "sudo apt-get remove --purge samba"
[07:58] <hydrox24> after doing this, remove the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[07:59] <nc__> hydrox24: how do i do that in terminal? I need sudo priviledges it seems :o
[07:59] <iToast> Hi
[07:59] <nc__> hi
[07:59] <iToast> Ubuntu 11.10 got linux backwards...
[07:59] <iToast> Linux just works and has high hardware support...
[07:59] <hydrox24> nc__: sorry, you mean removing the .conf file?
[07:59] <iToast> Ubutnu 11.10 has low hardware support and doesn't just work..
[07:59] <nc__> hydrox24: yes exactly
[08:00] <hydrox24> iToast: this is a support channel, please ask your question or move to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <hydrox24> !ot | iToast
[08:00] <iToast> hydrox24, Why is 11.10 so horrible for hardware support?
[08:00] <hydrox24> nc__: "sudo rm /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[08:00] <nc__> hydrox24: thanks, sorry should have told you i'm a noob
[08:00] <hydrox24> iToast: That is not a specific problem, please ask that at ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <iToast> 11.4 down have amazing hardware support, 11.10, it hates wyse machines, and amd cpu's... and external hdds..
[08:00] <hydrox24> nc__: that's cool
[08:01] <iToast> hydrox24, It doesn't boot.
[08:01] <iToast> Grub won't autoboot, thats fixable, but when it goes to boot its just a black screen
[08:01] <nc__> hydrox24: done
[08:01] <hydrox24> nc__: Now, try installing samba with "sudo apt-get install samba"
[08:01] <hydrox24> nc__: not samba4
[08:02] <iToast> were's ubuntus server amd64 iso's...
[08:02] <nc__> hydrox24: doing it now :)
[08:03] <iToast> :s
[08:03] <iToast> Does ubuntu server support amd64...
[08:03] <hydrox24> iToast: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[08:03] <nc__> Hydrox24: it worked beautifully, thanks alot :)!
[08:03] <hydrox24> iToast: look at the Bittorrent section
[08:03] <iToast> hydrox24, Why are these burried away?
[08:04] <hydrox24> nc__: Wonderful.
[08:04] <iToast> There is more then intel cpus...
[08:04] <hydrox24> iToast: they weren't I just google "ubuntu server amd64"
[08:04] <hydrox24> iToast: it was the top result
[08:04] <hydrox24> *googled*
[08:04] <iToast> hydrox24, Look on the website
[08:05] <iToast> hydrox24, Goto ubuntu.com and find it manually.
[08:06] <nc__> iToast, just click alternative downloads at the download page? :o
[08:06] <nc__> Bye guys, might be back :p thanks again hydrox24
[08:06] <iToast> nc__, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:06] <iToast> ...
[08:06] <hydrox24> iToast: look
[08:07] <iToast> hydrox24, ...?
[08:07] <hydrox24> iToast: ubuntu homepage > Download > ubuntu server (grey bar under orange bar) > ubuntu server for arm (tab above "1")
[08:07] <iToast> hydrox24, Thats a horrible design.
[08:08] <iToast> When a user is looking for a amd64 iso they don't click on ubuntu for arm.
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: I did it 20 secs & remember that it is a "technology preview" not meant for the general public
[08:08] <Myrtti> hydrox24: why server?
[08:08] <iToast> hydrox24, What
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: It's designed to be hidden away
[08:08] <iToast> hydrox24, amd64...
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: *A little*
[08:08] <iToast> Why?
[08:08] <iToast> It runs stable
[08:08] <hydrox24> oh, soz
[08:08] <hydrox24> wrong one
[08:09] <hydrox24> got amd and arm mixed up, lol
[08:09] <hydrox24> will redo for you, but after that this probably needs to be taken to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <iToast> arm is useless :/
[08:09] <pnorman> amd64? ubuntu homepage > download > ubuntu server, select 64 bit version
[08:09] <andyn> hey, we need a "lite" version of ubuntu for raspberry pi :P
[08:09] <pnorman> actually, by default, the 64 bit version is selected
[08:10] <Ben64> ubuntu is too heavy for pi
[08:10] <hydrox24> pnorman: you're right.
[08:10] <iToast> pnorman, Thats the confusion :P
[08:10] <hydrox24> iToast: listen to pnorman :)
[08:10] <iToast> it states nothing about amd64...
[08:10] <pnorman> Why would anything other than 64 bit be selected?
[08:10] <Myrtti> iToast: 64-bit *is* amd64
[08:10] <iToast> A default install of ubuntu will accept 4gb of ram :/
[08:10] <hydrox24> andyn: you could try the alternate install?
[08:10] <hydrox24> iToast: sorry?
[08:10] <andyn> hydrox24: lol :-)
[08:10] <nc__> hydrox24: I just rebooted, when i type samba in the console it says that it's not installed and tells me to use sudo apt-get install samba4
[08:10] <nc__> ?
[08:10] <hydrox24> andyn: yeh, not really lite enough...
[08:11] <pnorman> iToast: You're saying it should say amd64 instead of 64-bit?
[08:11] <iToast> pnorman, It should give a hint :p
[08:11] <iToast> Its rare i see a server based off amd...
[08:11] <hydrox24> nc__: that's annoying...
[08:11] <iToast> ben64 Lies
[08:11] <foxhat25> puyeng
[08:11] <Ben64> iToast: nope
[08:11] <iToast> ben64 windows 8 will run on arm.
[08:11] <iToast> WINDOWS!
[08:11] <Ben64> not on pi
[08:11] <pnorman> I think saying amd64 would confuse people more than 64-bit. most people wouldn't get that intel 64-bit CPUs are also amd64
[08:11] <iToast> Someone will get it to run smoothly.
[08:12] <nc__> hydrox24: Yep, any clues? Should i try installing samba4?
[08:12] <hydrox24> nc__: I am assuming you just want to share files on a windows network, yes?
[08:12] <nc__> hydrox24: actually just between lubuntu and os x lion :o
[08:13] <hydrox24> nc__: I share files over a network with samba and I have never used the actual "samba" command
[08:13] <iToast> Ben64, ubuntu will run on pi.
[08:13] <iToast> Xmbc runs on it i believe
[08:13] <iToast> xbmc*
[08:13] <andyn> xbmc
[08:13] <iToast> andyn, too slow :P
[08:13] <hydrox24> nc__: I thin kthat iToast is right actuall Ben64
[08:14] <andyn> well, if you want a unity-like desktop you could run wmaker on it.
[08:14] <iToast> Ben64, It will run.
[08:14] <iToast> You just gotta optimize it.
[08:14] <Ben64> ubuntu doesn't work currently on it, it might in the future, but it'd have to be cut down significantly
[08:14] <iToast> People got windows 7 on a penitum...
[08:14] <iToast> Vista to run in 54 mb of ram
[08:14] <coolstar-ipod> iToast: Unity is too heavy
[08:14] <hydrox24> nc__: can you try using the inbuilt sharing? unless you need careful control over permissions etc, just right click the folder you want to share, go to the sharing tab and go from there
[08:14] <iToast> coolstar-ipod, who cares? cut it.
[08:15] <coolstar-ipod> It lags on my system with dual core CPU and 3GB RAm
[08:15] <iToast> we don't need unity...
[08:15] <andyn> Ben64, iToast: since it has unified hardware it should not be too hard to trim a very compact kernel and libraries for it.
[08:15] <Ben64> i'd rather use something designed better for the rpi
[08:15] <iToast> The issue is that you guys want unity
[08:15] <iToast> and all the other crap piled on ubuntu
[08:15] <iToast> It just needs a UI for a tv
[08:15] <iToast> Or lcd :p
[08:15] <hydrox24> gtg
[08:15] <iToast> Why not ubuntu for tv...
[08:16] <coolstar-ipod> iToast; I use KDE myself
[08:16] <hydrox24> iToast: you do know there is ubuntutv...
[08:16] <Myrtti> remember kids, #ubuntu-offtopic is that ---> way
[08:16] <andyn> i already have a few great uses for a rack-mounted device that needs an integrated computer
[08:16] <iToast> hydrox24, Thats what i'm talking about
[08:16] <Skew-_^> !kernel | Skew-_^
[08:16] <nc__> hydrox24: there's no sharing tab under preferences or antyhing on my lubuntu :o
[08:17] <iToast> IM thinking about buying a ubuntu tv, but i see no use for a full os on a tv :/
[08:17] <iToast> Unless the hardware can decode streaming 1080p video in real time, its pointless to me
[08:17] <iToast> I wan't to be able to overlay 2 different 1080p videostreams
[08:17] <Skew-_^> !gnome | Skew-_^
[08:17] <Ben64> rpi does 1080p
[08:17] <iToast> Ben64, what doesnt?
[08:17] <Ben64> my phone
[08:18] <iToast> Ben64 wrong!
[08:18] <iToast> You just need a accessory for it
[08:18] <Ben64> no.. pretty sure my phone doesn't do 1080p
[08:18] <iToast> What phone is it
[08:18] <Ben64> droid 3
[08:18] <[deXter]> heh, well my phone has no issues with 1080p.. but my computer has!
[08:18] <[deXter]> (admittedly I'm using open-source drivers..)
[08:18] <iToast> Ben64, it can with a accessory
[08:18] <coolstar-ipod> Skew-^: do bot calls at #ubuntu-bots
[08:18] <Ben64> iToast: nope
[08:19] <iToast> Ben64, they said that the apple a4 might never get hacked
[08:19] <iToast> same to the a5...
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> I know a phone that doesn't do 1080p
[08:19] <iToast> iPhone?
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> No
[08:19] <Ben64> thats different. my phone literally cannot decode 1080p. can't even do 720p
[08:19] <iToast> Ben64, With a accessory it can
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> Windows Mobile..duh
[08:20] <iToast> Renember, you can have a external decoder ;)
[08:20] <Ben64> no, there is no accessory to make it magically decode
[08:20] <iToast> ben64 build one.
[08:20] <TheYsNoi> test
[08:20] <Ben64> you're just silly
[08:20] <iToast> Or use usb hostmode like most phones can do and use a usb one
[08:20] <iToast> You need to write your own drivers...
[08:20] <Skew-_^> iToast, A5 iphone/ ipad2 is hacked (jailbrakeable) now :)
[08:20] <coolstar-ipod> Absinthe
[08:20] <coolstar-ipod> Lil
[08:21] <iToast> Skew-_^, And all the noobs who wanted it for ilegal uses spammed the jailbreak devs :/
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> *Lol
[08:21] <iToast> Jailbreaking is pathetic now
[08:21] <sec_> Skew-_^: link?
[08:21] <iToast> I asked 10 people what jailbreaking is for, they said to get free apps -_-
[08:21] <hydrox24> iToast: that *IS* sad
[08:21] <iToast> Apperently 99c is too much >_>
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> iToast: you are talking to someone using a Jailbroken iPod
[08:21] <hydrox24> but we need to move to !ot
[08:21] <sec_> iToast: what it for?
[08:21] <iToast> hydrox24, I wanted to strangle them for that D:
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> Wanna know why?
[08:21] <iToast> sec_, "free apps"
[08:21] <iToast> :/
[08:21] <hydrox24> iToast: LOLZ
[08:22] <Ben64> i rooted my phone, but not for free apps
[08:22] <iToast> Rooting is having the same effect
[08:22] <coolstar-ipod> Guess why I Jailbroke
[08:22]  * overclucker is a control freak
[08:22] <iToast> Rooting atleast has no centrial source for these ilegal apps :D!
[08:22] <iceroot> !ot
[08:22] <iToast> Most ilegal ones are infected...
[08:22] <Ben64> could get free apps on android without root :P
[08:22] <Skew-_^> LoL, i jailbreak it cuz i want to have access true SSH, and kill prosseses and have a longe ring tone, cuz it sucks to have a iphone that sounds like a Bell Tower
[08:22] <Skew-_^> ;P
[08:22] <hydrox24> I think that they need to make jailbreaker hard, so that only people that are knowledgable can do it
[08:22] <iToast> Skew-_^, I jailbroke my ipod touch to ssh into my servers
[08:22] <hydrox24> meet you guys on ot
[08:23] <hydrox24> I'm on offtopic now, meet me there
[08:23] <coolstar-ipod> Let's go to the offtopic channel. Will we?
[08:24] <sec_> iToast: why?
[08:25] <rick__> hey im new to uuntu ive downloaded firefox aurora and cant figure out how to open the download from firefox download screen
[08:27] <rick__> hello mr potatohead
[08:28] <ServerSage> rick__: Did you download a debian/ubuntu version of aurora?
[08:28] <rick__> i just clicked the download button
[08:29] <ServerSage> Then you'll just get a tar.bz2 file.  Correct?
[08:30] <TheYsNoi> hi...new boot here...
[08:30] <rick__> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:31] <ServerSage> rick__: In order to use it you need to extract it.  When you download it from their site they give you a tar.bz2 file.  You can either double click on that an your GUI will probably extract it for you, leaving you with an executable, or you can extract it on the command line.
[08:32] <rick__> how do extract on cmd line i dont even know where cmd line is
[08:32] <quixotedon> rick__: mind your manner
[08:33] <rick__> what did i do
[08:33] <ServerSage> rick__: If extracting a downloaded file, or using the command line, is outside your realm of knowledge, do you think it's a good idea to run alpha/beta software?  Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.
[08:33] <callaghan> Hi, is there a quick way to find out if a user is running X/L/K/Ubuntu using the command line? I want to use it for a bash script. Thanks
[08:34] <tellers> Looking for genitally mutilated males. Contact me in private to participate in an investigative report. Nationwide publicity a significant possibility.
[08:34] <Smelly> callaghan, use: cat /etc/issue
[08:35] <Smelly> callaghan, Sorry, that doesn;t seem to contain the info you want...
[08:35] <callaghan> Smelly: This says Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l on my Lubuntu system...
[08:36] <callaghan> Smelly: well, I guess there is no easy way apart from looking if lxde or unity is running ;)
[08:36] <rick__> im learning by the way i have more knowledge than you can phatom pal back off im gonnaq make my company pyramidtechnologies bigger than apple and microsoft combined but i doubt you will even know about it so stop trying to prolong the process pal your negativity is undesireable
[08:36] <Smelly> callaghan, How about /etc/lsb-release
[08:36] <ServerSage> rick__: Thats one way to get help.
[08:36] <callaghan> Smelly: same here, only Ubuntu
[08:38] <rick__> so will anyone tell me how to use cmd line
[08:38] <bob___> type commands
[08:38] <ServerSage> I love people that brag about their intelligence but lack simple skills like sentence structure.  :)
[08:38] <rick__> or does everyone feel i should be deprived
[08:38] <ServerSage> rick__: Do you know which *buntu and which GUI you are running?
[08:38] <rick__> no
[08:38] <rick__> 11.0
[08:39] <callaghan> rick__: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Command-Shell-Scripting-Bible/dp/047025128X
[08:39] <Smelly> callaghan, maybe try "cd /etc; grep -R Lubuntu" to see if there's a file which has the distro name
[08:39] <callaghan> rick__: I bought this and it contains everything I ever needed :)
[08:39] <rick__> no money pal
[08:40] <rick__> 0 dollar budget
[08:40] <ServerSage> rick__: Drop the attitude.  Were here to help.  You need to remember that most of us are actually sitting at jobs right now WHILE trying to help you.
[08:40] <rick__> my company has been brought to its knees and i got trown out on the street
[08:40] <callaghan> rick__: then there's this: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[08:41] <T_H_X> same
[08:41] <callaghan> rick__: it's not as complete, but a good start nonetheless
[08:41] <rick__> but it will rise up soon
[08:41] <dotachin> is there any reason to split up large (20GB+) gzip files in pieces?
[08:41] <callaghan> Smelly: whoa, that's taking a long time ^^
[08:41] <rick__> i need some good people
[08:41] <ServerSage> dotachin: Some filesystems only support 2gb files.
[08:41] <rick__> ive got gret ones but thier is so much to do
[08:42] <Smelly> callaghan, It'll finish :)  Maybe add " | less" at the end to be able to scroll trhough the output
[08:42] <ServerSage> dotachin: Plus, moving a single 20gb file is harder than moving 20 1gb files.
[08:42] <dotachin> ServerSage, but any reasons in terms of file integrity?
[08:42] <rick__> can you tell me how to use cmd line
[08:42] <ServerSage> dotachin: Nope.
[08:42] <rick__> where is it located
[08:42] <dotachin> ServerSage, ok, thnx.
[08:42] <Smelly> callaghan, and make sure you are in /etc :)
[08:43] <Jordan_U> !terminal | rick__
[08:45] <tellers> Hello.
[08:45] <LunatyK> Hi
[08:46] <tellers> We are looking for genitally mutilated males. Contact me in private to participate in an investigate report. Nationwide publicity a significant possibility.
[08:46] <ServerSage> Ummm, tellers probably needs to be made to disappear.
[08:46] <alumno> un abrazo
[08:46] <callaghan> Smelly: I used "cd /etc; grep -R Lubuntu | tee ~/output" so it should to the job... no, nothing's in there ^^
[08:47] <callaghan> Smelly: ah well, I guess the user has to select what he is running then. Thank you for your time :)
[08:47] <Smelly> callaghan, Are you sure you're on Lubuntu? :) It should read
[08:47] <Smelly> callaghan, welcome.
[08:47] <tellers> Genitally mutilated is another expression for foreskin-amputated.
[08:48] <tellers> It means circumcised.
[08:48] <Smelly> callaghan, Skip the "It should read"
[08:48] <callaghan> Smelly: yeah, I'm sure, I also have a xubuntu machine where the command is still running
[08:49] <Smelly> callaghan, weird that it doesn't show up in issue at least... Well, good luck
[08:50] <LunatyK> Smelly is it smart to load Xubuntu at the same time as Ubuntu
[08:50] <callaghan> Smelly: it shows up in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf I can check if this path exists.
[08:51] <krised> Hi. I have a script which sets up various things. But each command line requires sudo (such as making changes to .profile) how do i tell a batchscript that all commands in the script must run as such ? so i dont have to execute one line at a time
[08:51] <Smelly> LunatyK, Is that a rethorical uestion?
[08:51] <Skew-_^> krised, run it as sudo?
[08:51] <LunatyK> no
[08:51] <JadedJacob> evening ubuntu
[08:51] <Skew-_^> krised, run the script as sudo
[08:51] <rick__> ok how do accsess ubuntu cmd line
[08:51] <LunatyK> Cause i added packages for Xfce and Xubuntu
[08:52] <rick__> please
[08:52] <krised> Skew -_^if i run it as sudo it wont run every command as sudo. just the first line
[08:52] <Skew-_^> krised, dont use sudo in script?
[08:52] <Smelly> LunatyK, I don;t know what you mean by "load". You mean have installed side by side as in "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"?
[08:52] <ServerSage> rick__: Did you not read what the good bot told you earlier?
[08:52] <krised> Skew-_^ if i start every line with sudo it will ask for my password between each line
[08:52] <ServerSage> !terminal | rick__
[08:52] <rick__> yup i cant remember
[08:52] <LunatyK> No
[08:53] <ServerSage> rick__: Seriously?
[08:53] <rick__> where do i click first
[08:53] <LunatyK> I went thru Synaptic Package Manager and downloaded the packages that way
[08:53] <Skew-_^> krised, dont have SUDO inside the script just run the script from terminal whit sudo infront have u tryed it?
[08:53] <LunatyK> I was trying to get Slackware Packages
[08:53] <LunatyK> x.x
[08:53] <JadedJacob> I'm after some software for ubuntu that allows to you click a button on a application make it resize 50% of the width of my LCD screen.
[08:53] <rick__> dont belittle me please i need help
[08:54] <JadedJacob> either Left or Right
[08:54] <krised> Skew-_^Hmm ill try. thanks. My problem here is that i need to repack a installed ubuntu back into a working distro ISO file.. i cant find any program that works.. remastersys gives errors when using that (when i boot the iso made)
[08:54] <ServerSage> rick__: You've been given help.   I'm not sure if that's advisable. It might be possible, but I'd personaly rather go with either one or the other.
[08:55] <rick__> why is it no one i talkto want to help you all act like im gonna kill you when i get my mind ad powerback
[08:55] <LunatyK> Well
[08:55] <LunatyK> It lets me choose
[08:55] <rick__> tell me where to clik please
[08:55] <ServerSage> rick__: Read the help!  It tells you EXACTLY WHAT TO CLICK.
[08:55] <LunatyK> If i want Gnome or Xubuntu
[08:55] <rick__> it says applications
[08:55] <rick__> thier is nothing under apps
[08:56] <garaman> rick__: press the "Windows" key and type "terminal" then hit Enter
[08:56] <ServerSage> rick__: click the Ubuntu logo and start typing terminal.
[08:56] <rick__> windows key??
[08:57] <garaman> rick__: between Ctrl and Alt
[08:57] <Smelly> LunatyK, What lets you choose?
[08:57] <garaman> rick__: also works to press Alt+F2, type "gnome-terminal", then hit Enter
[08:57] <rick__> ok im in thank you
[08:57] <rick__> now how do i run file
[08:58] <JadedJacob> i think i'll just post on the ubuntuforums instead.
[08:58] <ServerSage> rick__: Do you know where you downloaded the firefox file?
[08:58] <LunatyK> The Login Screen shows Session and it lets me run either Ubuntu or XUbuntu
[08:58] <rick__> from firefox aurora website
[08:58] <ServerSage> rick__: Yes, but where did you save it to?
[08:59] <rick__> its located in downloads section of firefox i cant make anysense of these ubuntu directories
[08:59] <garaman> rick__: in terminal type "cd Downloads", then "ls"
[09:00] <garaman> rick__: what filenames do you see?
[09:00] <rick__> no such file or directory
[09:01] <garaman> rick__: type "pwd", what do you see?
[09:01] <LunatyK> How do you go root?
[09:01] <rick__> pwd
[09:01] <goddard> the -15 kernel isn't working
[09:01] <goddard> how can i debug?
[09:01] <Smelly> LunatyK, Ah ok. So they're both installed already. Well if it work, it works. (For the time being)
[09:01] <garaman> rick__: in terminal, type "pwd"
[09:01] <LunatyK> Yes Smelly and it hasnt been messing up tho
[09:01] <madigan> sudo /load .xchat2/budus.so
[09:02] <Smelly> LunatyK, with "sudo <command>" you execute the command as root
[09:02] <rick__> fff
[09:02] <rick__> home rick
[09:03] <rick__> home rick is what i see
[09:03] <ServerSage> rick__: Try running "ls", do you see a Downloads listed?
[09:03] <garaman> rick__: in terminal, type "ls -1F".  you should see list of dirs, one of which should be named "Downloads"
[09:03] <madigan> XD i can't load the plug XDDC! i try sudo beacuse i'm desperate
[09:03] <madigan> XD
[09:04] <rick__> it says deskto videos doc ex desktop pic tempp downloads music public
[09:04] <ServerSage> rick__: Then type "cd downloads"
[09:04] <rick__> no such file or directory
[09:05] <norbert79> rick__: Just one thing to mention: Linux is Case-sensitive... If you See Downloads, it's not the same, like 'downloads'
[09:05] <ServerSage> rick__: You have to match the case.  So if it's Downloads you need to do "cd Downloads"
[09:05] <garaman> rick__: indeed, try "cd Downloads" again, exactly as written
[09:05] <garaman> rick__: with capital "D"
[09:05] <[deXter]> unless of course, you turn off case sensitivity in bash, like I do ;)
[09:06] <rick__> it says downloads $
[09:06] <norbert79> [deXter]: Which could just screw up your filesystem, just saying ;-)
[09:06] <garaman> [deXter]: I "set completion-ignore-case on", which is handy while less dangerous
[09:06] <[deXter]> garaman, yeah, that's what I use actually
[09:07] <LunatyK> Smelly could i script Ubuntu to look like SlackWare?
[09:07] <norbert79> rick__: I would assume ls -lF would be the next step...
[09:08] <norbert79> rick__: so you can see what's listed there
[09:08] <aLeSD|> hi all
[09:08] <rick__> yep no fire fox thou
[09:08] <auronandace> LunatyK: look like slackware? you are aware that slackware uses vanilla packages?
[09:08] <aLeSD|> is it normal that /sbin in not in my path ?
[09:09] <LunatyK> I am
[09:09] <aLeSD|> $PATH
[09:09] <LunatyK> Thats what im used to auronandace
[09:09] <rick__> lf says cmd not found
[09:09] <TheYsNoi> hi aLeSD
[09:09] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /sbin is in PATH on default ubuntu
[09:09] <ServerSage> rick__: Try running "ls -l"
[09:09] <auronandace> LunatyK: then that means slackware doesn't have a look of it's own, what you want is the default look of the packages
[09:10] <LunatyK> Yes that
[09:10] <aLeSD|> iceroot: I just switched from kubuntu 2 ubuntu
[09:10] <rick__> type ls -l
[09:10] <rick__> ????
[09:10] <ServerSage> rick__: Yes, in the terminal type in "ls -l" without the quotes.
[09:10] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:10] <aLeSD|> I simply run sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[09:11] <LunatyK> Could i do that auronandace
[09:11] <iceroot> aLeSD|: to get the
[09:11] <rick__> not there
[09:11] <auronandace> LunatyK: no idea
[09:11] <iceroot> aLeSD|: to get the "real" ubuntu its sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <LunatyK> Hmm
[09:11] <ServerSage> rick__: You sure you downloaded it?  :)
[09:11] <rick__> yup
[09:11] <LunatyK> Ima try something
[09:11] <aLeSD|> ah
[09:11] <LunatyK> after Synaptic gets done
[09:11] <norbert79> rick__: You would like to check your queries/personal messages...
[09:11] <auronandace> LunatyK: what has ubuntu changed that you don't like the look of?
[09:11] <aLeSD|> iceroot, ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[09:11] <rick__> how
[09:12] <iceroot> aLeSD|: then you have everything you need
[09:12] <almoxarife> rick__: wanna try this with the gui folder viewer god gave ubuntu?
[09:12] <LunatyK> Actually auronandace i am used to Slackware
[09:12] <norbert79> rick__: Like clicking the window, I think top, since you have at least 1 personal message in your IRC client
[09:12] <LunatyK> And seeing something that doesnt look like it
[09:12] <LunatyK> Seems wrong
[09:12] <norbert79> rick__: I think right to the channel window-tab
[09:12] <auronandace> LunatyK: you haven't answered my question, whats different that you don't like?
[09:13] <aLeSD|> iceroot, my system want't start gdm ... it tries with kdm all the time .. The prob is that I removed kdm
[09:13] <LunatyK> The whole thing
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: ubuntu is not using gdm
[09:13] <auronandace> LunatyK: such as?
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: its using lightdm
[09:13] <LunatyK> the themes the wallpapes the menu
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: depending on your version
[09:14] <rick__> ok
[09:14] <auronandace> LunatyK: so you don't like unity? is that it? more of a kde fan?
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: what version are you using?
[09:14] <Monkeypaws> Hello.  I have a webserver running ubuntu/apache and an IP camera.  I'd like to have 1 connection between the ubuntu server and the IP camera.  Then, however many users connect to the ubuntu/apache server to view the stream.   I want to avoid anyone connecting directly to the IP camera in order to view the stream.  Is this do-able? thanks
[09:14] <aLeSD|> iceroot, 13.04
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: not possible
[09:14] <aLeSD|> Who tells ? Hainstein ?
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: there is no 13.04
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: output of "cat /etc/issue"
[09:15] <aLeSD|> 11.10
[09:15] <aLeSD|> I configured lightdm
[09:15] <iceroot> aLeSD|: then its lightdm instead of gdm
[09:15] <auronandace> !kubuntu | LunatyK
[09:16] <aLeSD|> now the problem is the $PATH
[09:16] <aLeSD|> iceroot, is it configured in .bashrc ?
[09:19] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /etc/bash_completion
[09:19]  * dfcnvt hit the sack, "G'night"
[09:19] <almoxarife> Monkeypaws: how does apache talk to the camera? network? usb?
[09:21] <Monkeypaws> almoxarife - the video stream is available over the network, at http://<IP_ADDRESS>/mjpeg.cgi
[09:21] <aLeSD|> iceroot, thanks
[09:25] <LunatyK> installing Kubuntu
[09:25] <varikonniemi> hmm, i have been zipping 60 gigs folder to a .zip archive with ubuntus compress option. I left it overnight and it is only halfway therE?!
[09:26] <jatt> why do you want to zip 60 gigs! rotfl
[09:26] <varikonniemi> so i can archive it handy in one file
[09:26] <JadedJacob> Varazir: What compression setting did you use? What is your CPU? How much RAM do you have?
[09:27] <LunatyK> auronandace is that smart
[09:27] <jatt> better those 60 gigs are text files
[09:27] <varikonniemi> dunno about compression, it does not let me choose
[09:27] <jatt> if not
[09:27] <varikonniemi> c2d 3.1ghz, 4ggs ram
[09:27] <jatt> you are wasting your time
[09:27] <varikonniemi> cpu usage 10%
[09:28] <JadedJacob> Yeah like what jatt: Unless they are text files or BMP's(haha) you're wasting your time
[09:28] <JadedJacob> *like what jatt said i mean
[09:28] <varikonniemi> the point is not to compress them but to just have one file to archive
[09:28] <jatt> then don't compress them
[09:28] <jatt> archive them
[09:28] <iceroot> varikonniemi: tar
[09:28] <jatt> with tar for example
[09:28] <varikonniemi> but there is clearly something wrong here
[09:28] <varikonniemi> i read tar is really bad for this, since it has no index
[09:28] <DJ_Eternal> There
[09:28] <jatt> yeah PEBKAC
[09:29] <haylo> i think zipping is good but something that big takes to long to zip varikonniemi
[09:29] <DJ_Eternal> >.<
[09:29] <JadedJacob> When you say there is something wrong...Do you mean you think your harddrive is on the way out?
[09:29] <haylo> plus unless the data has a compressible pattern it doesnt get that much smaller
[09:29] <varikonniemi> yeah but what is it doing this all time when cpu usage is at 5-10% for the process
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: what is the value of %wa
[09:30] <varikonniemi> memory usage 50M
[09:30] <DJ_Eternal> Is it smart to install Kubuntu with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: on top
[09:30] <varikonniemi> iceroot, ?
[09:30] <haylo> will take ten percent cpu to do an operationg like this
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are talking about cpu usage, what is "top" showing for the value %wa
[09:30] <varikonniemi> where can i find %wa
[09:31] <rick__> ok im back
[09:31] <jatt> you should do the experiment how it takes to uncompress the 60GB. and then compress them again
[09:31] <rick__> hello
[09:31] <iceroot> varikonniemi: open a terminal and type in "top"
[09:32] <iceroot> varikonniemi: at the top of that screen there is %wa
[09:32] <rick__> you there
[09:32] <varikonniemi> 40-60%
[09:32] <iceroot> varikonniemi: that is the reason why it is working so long
[09:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: %wa = waiting time of the cou for your hdd
[09:33] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: i don't like unity either (xfce is my choice)
[09:33] <varikonniemi> iceroot, ok :)
[09:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: so your cpu is waiting 40-60% of the time because your hdd is not delivering the data fast enough
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> xfce is good
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> but i want slackware back
[09:33] <rick__> hello
[09:33] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: #slackware
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> but my disk drive isnt working
[09:33] <quiescens> i was going to say
[09:34] <quiescens> 40-60% is more likely because of drive failure
[09:34] <DJ_Eternal> iceroot i know alot about it
[09:34] <quiescens> than actual io saturation
[09:34] <DJ_Eternal> c.c
[09:34] <iceroot> quiescens: no
[09:34] <iceroot> quiescens: that is a normal value and has nothing to do with drive failure
[09:34] <varikonniemi> hmm, i have process python as zombie. Is that bad
[09:34] <goddard> xfce yo dawg dat is oogleee
[09:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are using "terminator"?
[09:35] <varikonniemi> iceroot, no
[09:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: ok
[09:35] <bc81> hello.  i'm trying to get a daap server up and running on maverick, mt-daapd is not working, is there a better more up-to-date method?
[09:36] <goddard> iceroot: you should change your name to fireroot then it will sounds like your gonna can your sys admin rather then shoot him
[09:36] <iceroot> goddard: :)
[09:36] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:37] <bc81> i've tried tangerine also, but my ipod touch 2g can't connect to it (using Simple DAAP client
[09:37] <bc81> the touch can see the share, but not connect to them
[09:37] <DJ_Eternal> auronandace i just hate unity period
[09:38] <reisio> DJ_Eternal: so don't use it
[09:38] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: don't hate participate
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> reisio if i had a diskdrive i wouldnt be
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:38] <varikonniemi> on windows i have once rarred a 150 gigs archive, and it had no problems, so it clearly is something fishy going on with archive roller
[09:38] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: you have a support-question?
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> Im on a laptop
[09:39] <DJ_Eternal> iceroot well noone answered my question :/
[09:39] <DJ_Eternal> Is it smart to install Kubuntu with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[09:39] <reisio> varikonniemi: what is?
[09:39] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: why not?
[09:39] <ePlus`> hey all
[09:39] <goddard> yo
[09:39] <reisio> ePlus`: hi
[09:40] <ePlus`> where do i set "ifconfig eh0 up" to be up at boot
[09:40] <Skew-_^> ACER S3-951/ULV i5-2467M/NLED13.3WXGAG/Intel HD/4GB/SSD 256GB/BGN/BT 4.0/Lithium Polymer/1.3M HD/W7HP-64  VS. ASUS UX31E 13.3'' HD+ Glare i7-2677M HD3000 4GB DDR3 256GB SSD Cam BT USB 3.0 4 cell Bag W7HP alu HDMI ???
[09:40] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: of course you have then all applications from all of them
[09:40] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: if you have enough space you can
[09:40] <varikonniemi> reisio, <varikonniemi> hmm, i have been zipping 60 gigs folder to a .zip archive with ubuntus compress option. I left it overnight and it is only halfway therE?!
[09:40] <DJ_Eternal> idk if i do or not
[09:40] <jatt> buy a more powerful computer
[09:40] <jatt> then it will be faster
[09:40] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: maybe 6-8gb for all of them
[09:41] <prashant_123456> wanna lock system volume at a certain low end using ubuntu 11.10 gnome ?????
[09:41] <Skew-_^> jatt, who me?
[09:41] <jatt> no the 60GB guy
[09:41] <Skew-_^> aha i see
[09:41] <Skew-_^> :)
[09:41] <DJ_Eternal> how do i find out
[09:42] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: live disc?
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> nope
[09:42] <reisio> varikonniemi: 60 is a lot, wouldn't compress it unless it's for really long term
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> Ubuntu is installed
[09:42] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: haha ok
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> Xubuntu is installed
[09:43] <DJ_Eternal> Now im working on Kubuntu
[09:43] <glosoli> Hey folks,  I have one problem. Sometimes I can't restart my computer if some programs are running in the background, ubuntu just hangs forever on the splashscreen for reboot, and does nothing, just CPU Fan Noisy becomes
[09:43] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: if you want slackware then why did you install xubuntu?
[09:43] <DJ_Eternal> Cause i couldn't get my Slackware to update to 13.37
[09:44] <varikonniemi> i restarted my computer and python process is still zombie. Is this normal?
[09:44] <aBound> Slackware is not an easy to use distribution.
[09:44] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: what is your question? to be honest we dont care about slackware
[09:44] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: so you just install lots of OS's on your computer for fun?
[09:44] <reisio> varikonniemi: sure it's the same #?
[09:45] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: so you couldn't reinstall slackware instead of upgrade?
[09:45] <DJ_Eternal> Im just trying to make sure of something but nvm
[09:45] <varikonniemi> wait, i have one python as #1867 and one as #1850
[09:45] <DJ_Eternal> auronandace my diskdrive is out and i have to have the disk drive working to do so
[09:45] <jatt> zombie processes are not normal
[09:46] <varikonniemi> i just resintalled my os yesterday :(
[09:46] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: so how did you install xubuntu? by usb? if so why can't you install slackware that way?
[09:46] <reisio> they happen
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> Slackware requires 6 cds
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:47] <bob___> DJ_Eternal: not true
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> And i dont have a usb big enough
[09:47] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: again, we dont care about slackware, go to #slackware if you want to discuss that distro
[09:47] <llutz_> DJ_Eternal: to make it short: you don't have any clue about wat you're doing, you just decided to troll around here.
[09:47] <glosoli> Hey folks,  I have one problem. Sometimes I can't restart my computer if some programs are running in the background, ubuntu just hangs forever on the splashscreen for reboot, and does nothing, just CPU Fan Noisy becomes
[09:47] <norbert79> DJ_Eternal: I would recommend #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <jatt> what is slackware?
[09:48] <llutz_> jatt: wikipedia tells you
[09:48] <bob___> glosoli: hit esc at that splash screen and it hsould show you the shutdown messages and you can see where it's hanging
[09:49] <rick__> hello
[09:49] <reisio> hi
[09:49] <rick__> im back
[09:49] <tomek_> hi
[09:49] <rick__> can we get back to bussiness
[09:50] <aBound> DJ_Eternal, Doesn't seem like Slackware requires 6 CDs there's a package with the DVD for everything and 6 ISOs which means you don't need all of them.
[09:50] <tomek_> who knows how to move window x - [] from left to right ?
[09:50] <aBound> Some of the ISOs are source packages.
[09:50] <iceroot> and all are off-topic
[09:50] <aBound> iceroot, Indeed.
[09:50] <reisio> tomek_: called "decorations"
[09:51] <bc81> tomek_: i think it's gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[09:51] <aBound> DJ_Eternal, Best to head to the slackware channel for help on the Slackware distro.
[09:52] <bc81> tomek_: of course, you can rearrange the string to your liking
[09:53] <yannick_> yannick
[09:55] <pfifo> hello everyone :)
[09:55] <bc81> so, does anyone have success in running a daap server on their 'buntu?  trying to connect the ipod touch 2g (old, but good ;)
[09:55] <bc81> hi pfifo
[09:56] <rick__> hi
[09:56] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:57] <bc81> hi
[09:57] <rick__> can anyone help me run files on ubuntu
[09:57] <bendras> ato
[09:57] <tomek_> bc81 : no gui tools
[09:57] <tomek_> ?
[09:57] <bc81> lol rick__  what kind of "files"?
[09:57] <bendras> where am i?
[09:57] <pfifo> rick__, to execute a file simple add ./ to the fron
[09:57] <rick__> im on my day with ubuntu
[09:57] <pfifo> ex ./myscript.sh
[09:58] <dns53-laptop> nick dns53
[09:58] <rick__> well i cant find the file in cmd line
[09:58] <bendras> linux sucks!
[09:58] <bc81> tomek_: open a terminal and paste that command, only rearrange the string
[09:58] <rick__> i like linux
[09:58] <rick__> windows sucks
[09:58] <reisio> :p
[09:58] <bc81> tomek, so you want them reversed: menu:close,maximize,minimize
[09:59] <_Ethan_> hi
[09:59] <reisio> hi
[09:59] <bc81> hi
[09:59] <_Ethan_> when manually creating the partitions, /home should be the biggest one in size?
[09:59] <pfifo> hi
[09:59] <cristian_c>  I'm using Oneiric Ocelot 11.10, I purchased an asus WL-330gE. The device shields the connection to the router, unfortunately I have to first establish a direct connection to the router, and then the computer automatically snaps to a repeater. But if the PC tries to connect to the router via the repeater, it fails
[10:00] <Tiven_> _Ethan_ : no need for that
[10:00] <Tiven_> it's all about what you need
[10:00] <reisio> _Ethan_: but yes, in general
[10:00] <bc81> _Ethan_: generally, yes.
[10:00] <Tiven_> yea
[10:00] <Tiven_> because you usually use the most space for saving in there
[10:01] <cristian_c> the network manager tries to connect several times, but it fails to connect. So I updated the firmware to the latest version, from version <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>, but unfortunately the problem persists
[10:01] <reisio> if you put everything on one partition, you don't have to consider this
[10:01] <cristian_c> What can I do to solve the problem?
[10:01] <_Ethan_> so /home is supposed to be the "folder" where i put data
[10:01] <glosoli> bob___: Thanks for answer :) Might be what I need
[10:01] <pfifo> cristian_c, you might want to ask in ##hardware this is ubuntu support
[10:02] <_Ethan_> the thing is , arent they just folders but partitions?
[10:02] <_Ethan_> i can understand to have a swap partition
[10:02] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i use a seperate storage partition for my files
[10:02] <reisio> _Ethan_: home is for non-OS data
[10:02] <pfifo> _Ethan_, you dont have to make /home a partition at all
[10:03] <reisio> indeed
[10:03] <_Ethan_> and in fact i have one partition for data in my windows xp, because i wanted it
[10:03] <Tiven_> _Ethan_ : basically home is all that you save. i used to use Home on my headless server to save all services (webservers, gameservers, etc)
[10:03] <_Ethan_> pfifo but is it the default mode ubuntu uses when installing isnt it ?
[10:03] <cristian_c> pfifo, is this not a problem that affects the operating system?
[10:04] <llutz_> _Ethan_: then just dont put /home on extra partition, mount your data-filesystem later to i.e. /home/you/data
[10:04] <pfifo> _Ethan_, because it makes reinstalling easier, you wont lose all your settings if you have a seperate /home
[10:04] <reisio> you shouldn't _have_ to reinstall, though, if course
[10:04] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:05] <Tiven_> personally i prefer knowing that if anything at all happens, i know that im safe just by getting this one partition
[10:05] <_Ethan_> thanks a lot for your help
[10:05] <_Ethan_> cross fingers for me
[10:05] <_Ethan_> :P
[10:05] <Tiven_> good luck bro
[10:05] <_Ethan_> because i actually have two primary partitions, windows xp and data
[10:05] <reisio> to be safe you must backup
[10:05] <llutz_> Tiven_: that's what backups are for
[10:06] <reisio> regardless of partition scheme
[10:06] <_Ethan_> next i´ll do ext 4 / as primary
[10:06] <Tiven_> i always backup, i always use partitions too :P
[10:06] <_Ethan_> swap and /home
[10:06] <_Ethan_> (/home as logical)
[10:06] <llutz_> _Ethan_: logical/primary makes no difference
[10:07] <UidX> is there any program which analyzes a jar file and draws an entire class map?
[10:07] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i keep all my linux partitions as logical (allows primaries to be used for other OS's)
[10:07] <reisio> #java?
[10:07] <UidX> oh is there #java?
[10:07] <Tiven_> yea
[10:07] <UidX> thanks im new to this server so i'm not really used to it
[10:07] <dns53> UidX there are, but ask somewhere else, it has been a while since i did java programming
[10:07] <reisio> I don't multi-boot, seems a waste of time
[10:07] <_Ethan_> llutz yes, but i´ll have 3 primary partitions so i´d prefer to kept the one left for a future possibility
[10:08] <_Ethan_> auronandace exactly
[10:08] <reisio> UidX: /msg alis list *foo*
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: just put all non-win stuff on logical
[10:08] <reisio> FFR
[10:08] <_Ethan_> "/" needs to be primary isnt it ?
[10:08] <Tiven_> haha
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: no
[10:08] <pfifo> auronandace, how many OS's do you need
[10:08] <_Ethan_> ups
[10:08] <auronandace> pfifo: not a question of need
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: logical/primary makes no difference (for most non-windows OS)
[10:09] <_Ethan_> thought the OS partition needs to be primary
[10:09] <auronandace> pfifo: i like to keep my options open, and its fun to try something new
[10:09] <UidX> thanks
[10:09] <reisio> not that a desktop install needs more than for partitions
[10:09] <auronandace> _Ethan_: no, linux and haiku can reside entirely in logical partitions
[10:09] <reisio> or even two
[10:09] <pfifo> reisio, I require 6
[10:09] <_Ethan_> auronandace then you meant that for linux you always use logicals to reserve primary partitions for windows for example ?
[10:10] <reisio> pfifo: you specialize areas with file systems?
[10:10] <auronandace> _Ethan_: yes, and bsd and openindiana
[10:10] <pfifo> reisio, what?
[10:10] <grymek> hi, i have downloaded my windows 7 from msdnaa ( so its oryginal ) but i havent cdrom on my computer ( im writting from second a laptop ), on windows i could copy iso disk to pendrive and make him a disk boot partytion, how to do the same with a cd or iso file on ubuntu ?
[10:10] <reisio> guess not
[10:11] <grymek> i have ubuntn 10.04
[10:11] <_Ethan_> auronandace ok, thanks for the advice
[10:11] <reisio> grymek: 1 min
[10:11] <norbert79> grymek: use unetbootin for such, or use the Ubuntu's main website for the pendrive-installer-creator
[10:11] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i also keep my storage partition as a logical too
[10:11] <cristian_c> an another question:
[10:11] <_Ethan_> just a last question, would you recommend defragmentation ?
[10:11] <_Ethan_> prior all this process?
[10:12] <norbert79> _Ethan_: There are no defragmentation tools for Linux, since EXT3-4 doesn't need such... It's done automatically
[10:12] <_Ethan_> of my data and windows xp partition
[10:12] <cristian_c> I'm using lubuntu 11.10
[10:12] <pfifo> auronandace, it sounds like you make one giant extended and then all logicals
[10:12] <auronandace> pfifo: indeed :)
[10:12] <reisio> grymek: _2nd_ answer here: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux
[10:12] <cristian_c> but I can not see the volume icon on the panel
[10:13] <bc81> _Ethan_: yes, good idea to check the filesystem and defrag prior to the operation (but not mandatory)
[10:13] <reisio> grymek: the one with 23 ups
[10:13] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[10:13] <cristian_c> I tried to add it, but it still is not displayed
[10:14] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:14] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[10:14] <_Ethan_> i´ll go ahead then
[10:14] <_Ethan_> back in 2-3 hours , hopefully with good news :D
[10:14] <bc81> bullgard4: have you tried the Multimedia Keys extension?
[10:15] <grymek> reisio: ok
[10:15] <grymek> norbert79: ok i ll try
[10:15] <bc81> bullgard4: oh nevermind i see you want volume
[10:18] <bc81> bullgard4: you can use command:  banshee --set-volume=20
[10:18] <bc81> etc
[10:19] <zeefah04> hello
[10:19] <zeefah04> exit
[10:20] <shine_> hi, can someone help me on how to remove an custom schema from openldap(that uses cn=config)...i've olready remove all the entries that uses the attributes and classes of this schema, what should i do next? i know that these thread is not specific for ubuntu but no one helped me on the openldap chat
[10:20] <bc81> bullgard4: or you can bind the command: banshee --set-volume=+5   or   banshee --set-volume=-5  to a shortcut key (compiz has this ability)
[10:20] <Fudge> anyone know why grub-pc 1.98 in lucid detects my osx but natty and precise doesnt?
[10:26] <gokul> hello, i am getting --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/824916/  when i connect my new usb drive, i am not able to access it too, any suggestions ?
[10:27] <dns53> gokul bad power on the usb plug? tried plugging in the laptop? tried another plug?
[10:27] <bc81> gokul: try opening it in the gparted, if it's new it needs to be formatted possibly
[10:29] <gokul> dns53, bc81 it's not the plugging issue, tried it in different systems, it's not working in ubuntu and arch but works in windows. Also did a quick format in windows, but still not working in ubuntu
[10:30] <callaghan> gokul: Does it appear in the Disk Utility?
[10:31] <auronandace> gokul: try gparted like bc81 suggests
[10:31] <bc81> gokul, and you tried opening in gparted?
[10:31] <dns53> gokul ok so the device exists?   run sudo fdisk -l   to list disks and partitions
[10:33] <gokul> dns53, bc81 will try gparted now
[10:36] <gokul> dns53, bc81, auronandace  fdisk -l actually kinda hangs, have started gparted but it was scanning for devises for a long time and doesn't show anything
[10:37] <aLeSD|> hi all
[10:37] <_rahmat_> hi aLesD|
[10:37] <gokul>  i am getting "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 1950463"  in syslog
[10:38] <aLeSD|> I am using twinview ... is it possible to set differents backgrounds between the 2 monitors .. or extend a sigle image to both ?
[10:38] <dns53> gokul so your disk might be on the way out, is this a hard disk in an enclosure or a usb drive?
[10:38] <ikonia> aLeSD|: you should be able to span an image across both as one virtual monitor, but not use two different ones
[10:39] <gokul> dns53, it's a usb drive, and i just bought it.
[10:39] <dns53> gokul does it have any data on it?
[10:39] <gokul> dns53, none, just plugged in for the first time
[10:39] <llutz_> gokul: take it back to the shop
[10:40] <norbert79> aLeSD|: Using two different images for your desktop is dependant on what Window handler you are using. Unity, the default Window manager cannot handle more, than one image, while KDE has/had the support for such for example.
[10:40] <DJango_Novice> hi
[10:40] <auronandace> gokul: what brand?
[10:41] <red> Anyone here that is familiar with rsync?
[10:41] <ikonia> red: yes
[10:41] <red> I'm having problems understanding the correct syntax, even tho im looking at examples etc
[10:41] <red> heres my command:
[10:42] <red> rsync -avz --exclude=/var/www/aac7/sites/ office@<IP_ADDRESS>:/var/www/aac7
[10:42] <red> I run it at my dev server
[10:42] <red> to copy files from live server, excluding the sites folder
[10:42] <red> but still the incremental file list that starts to roll before the sync is showing every file under the sites as well, so I hit ctrl-c
[10:42] <dregin> Ahoy! Is there any plan to allow a user to remote desktop to a machine without the screen at the PC's desk unlocking???? In know I can use NoMachine or whatever else, but I need to be able to work on the same code I had on my screen when I left work... having to set it all up again is a pain.
[10:43] <red> the .40 is the live environment
[10:43] <gokul> auronandace, my company bought a whole bunch of customized usb drives for employees. No brand name on it. :)
[10:43] <red> should the exclude be relative to the aac7 path instead?
[10:44] <dns53> red just --exclude=sites
[10:44] <auronandace> gokul: customised usb drives? sounds fishy
[10:44] <william_> haha
[10:44] <ikonia> red: it should be releative to where you are
[10:44] <red> thanks, dns53
[10:44] <red> works
[10:44] <RawProduce> Hi, does anyone know how can I install Kivio version 2 on 11.10?
[10:44] <dns53> red in my script i keep a log file in the rsync directory and i just have --exclude=log
[10:45] <RawProduce> it's not in the repo by the looks of it
[10:45] <red> i see
[10:45] <red> can i do sites,sites_old
[10:45] <red> or similar for the exclude?
[10:45] <aLeSD|> norbert79, ok ... but is it possible to expand a single image in the 2 monitor. Use the 2 monitor as a single one.
[10:45] <bc81> pattern could be sites*  (correct?)
[10:45] <dns53> red multiple exclude lines
[10:46] <shine__> can enyone help me on openldap problem ?
[10:46] <red> --exclude=sites --exclude=sites_old ?
[10:46] <norbert79> aLeSD|: I have never tried such, so I can't really help further, sorry
[10:46] <RawProduce> yet this page - http://ubuntuguide.dyndns.info/index.php/Ubuntu:Oneiric#Kivio_.28Diagram_editor.29 says that kivio is in fact included in 11.10...
[10:46] <red> ill test wildcard
[10:46] <gokul> auronandace, they needed the company logo
[10:46] <aLeSD|> norbert79, however thanks
[10:47] <bc81> red: you could also match from a file: --exclude-from=FILE
[10:47] <auronandace> gokul: if you can find out who made the usb drives then you can avoid them (sounds like some outsourced cheap manufacturer)
[10:48] <red> wildcard worked, however i noticed 1 more folder i need to exclude, (tmp)
[10:48] <gokul> yeah
[10:48] <red> bc81: this is a one time thingy so i dont think i really wanna build some file for it
[10:48] <red> but if its the only way, then i guess i have to
[10:48] <quiescens> red: you should really be able to do --exclude more than once
[10:48] <red> kk, ill test again
[10:49] <norbert79> RawProduce: I think you might been fooled, since if you check the page you quoted, it shows, that it's not related to Canonical. (dyndns.info..?). I would suggest for checking kivio you should use: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:49] <bc81> or could they be comma separated?
[10:49] <XxPACHAxX> ciao
[10:49] <XxPACHAxX> !list
[10:49] <norbert79> RawProduce: I did a lookup though, and it seems, that kivio is not listed in the packages, but let me do a deeper search
[10:49]  * dns53 goes to check the rsync man page
[10:49] <RawProduce> norbert79: appreciate the help :)
[10:50] <RawProduce> norbert79: it's a bit weird since installing koffice provided icons and a mimetype for kivio
[10:50] <norbert79> RawProduce: I understand, but if it's missing it could be because of different reason
[10:51] <norbert79> RawProduce: http://www.koffice.org/kivio/ - I think, that kivio is not even ready, according to the official webpage. That's why it's not available yet
[10:51] <RawProduce> norbert79: fair enough, guess I'll use something else then, thanks again for the help
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> Hi! I can't seem to find the drivers for my soundcard: Creative Labs SB1040 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
[10:52] <norbert79> RawProduce: Sure, you are all welcome!
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> I know there probably is no official supported driver version, but surely there's a community OS one.
[10:53] <RawProduce> reCAPTCHA: this might help - http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/Tutorial_Set_up_X_Fi_in_Ubuntu
[10:53] <reCAPTCHA> RawProduce: I'll give it a go, thanks much.
[10:54] <RawProduce> reCAPTCHA: you're welcome
[10:54] <norbert79> RawProduce: I might be reading the date wrong, but isn't that tutorial a bit old?
[10:54] <norbert79> RawProduce: it might be, that the support is already there, just activated different
[10:55] <gokul> hello, some more logs on the usb drive issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/824937/ does any body know why i am getting "udevd[313]: worker [8239] failed while handling '/devices/pc****"
[10:56] <glosoli> Anyone here uses DIA and get problems of getting CPU Usage extremely high ? or does someone knows any alternative  ?
[10:56] <RawProduce> norbert79: yeah, it might be a bit out of date, but generally compiling a driver is about the same between versions
[10:57] <sanoobep> hi...any one there?
[10:57] <norbert79> gokul: Revieweing your past conversation it looks like a faulty USB drive for me as first look. You might want to try it under other OS-es too, but I wouldn't assume more luck.
[10:57] <glosoli> sanoobep: Yes
[10:57] <sanoobep> i wish to about thread safetuy + ubutu
[10:57] <gokul> norbert79, it works in windows and mac
[10:57] <sanoobep> thread safety + ubuntu
[10:57] <Daniel_WMDE> hi all. some windows are not accessible via the application switcher (alt-tab) it seems. some vanisch "sometimes", but the netbeans ide seems to always be missing
[10:57] <Daniel_WMDE> any ideas why?
[10:57] <gokul> but not in ubutnu and arch
[10:58] <norbert79> gokul: So no issues under other OS-es then... This limits the issues. Let me go into query
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> unity seems to have trouble with java based apps anyway... freemind doesn't stick in the launcher, for instance, but at least i can alt-tab to it
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> so...
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> any idea how to fix this?
[10:58] <bc81> gokul, in windows can you format it to fat 32?
[10:59] <sanoobep> hi ...let me know about thread safety + linux
[10:59] <gokul> bc81, did a quick format in windows but still not working in linux
[10:59] <reCAPTCHA> RawProduce: Unfortunately, it does not seem like the creative site offers these drivers in any format but .exe
[10:59] <Daniel_WMDE> sanoobep: that question seems awfully broad...
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: Well, I found it different :)
[11:00] <bc81> gokul: not quick format, but format to fat32 filesystem
[11:00] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: you did? Please inform!
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: What card do you have again?
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: X-Fi?
[11:01] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: X-Fi Xtreme Audio, yeah.
[11:01] <sanoobep> which package will support for thread safety on ubuntu
[11:01] <norbert79> sanoobep: Define "thread safety"
[11:02] <norbert79> sanoobep: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=17927&prodName=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+Titanium&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_17927,VARSET=CategoryID:1 ?
[11:02] <sanoobep> thread safety is php package
[11:02] <norbert79> oops
[11:02] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=17927&prodName=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+Titanium&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_17927,VARSET=CategoryID:1
[11:03] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: Scroll down, select Linux, and press SUbmit, if it's this card
[11:03] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nLanguageLocale=1033&nPage=1
[11:03] <reCAPTCHA> This is the card.
[11:04] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: :) So the same... Ok: http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
[11:04] <sanoobep> how to enable thread safety on info.php file?
[11:04] <andyn> !php
[11:04] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: the drivers will work for both cards then?
[11:04] <emiliano_> #join release
[11:05] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: I can't help you further, I don't own a Sound Blaster X-Fi, this is how far I can go
[11:05] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: thanks much.. hopefully it works.
[11:05] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: You are welcome
[11:06] <sanoobep> how to enable thread safety on info.php file? which package will install ?
[11:08] <norbert79> sanoobep: Until someone will get back to you with the answer, I would suggest you try to join the ##php channel too for further help
[11:08] <sanoobep> any one know about thread safety
[11:08] <sanoobep> ?
[11:09] <nils_> how can I change my console keymap permanently? I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup (I think it was console-data once?) but it doesn't seem to let me select the keyboard mapping
[11:10] <sanoobep> unable to login ##php chanel
[11:11] <LjL> !register > sanoobep
[11:11] <dns53> nils_ i can't remember exactly but you may need to change the debconf priority
[11:12] <nils_> dns53: so it just skips the question? That makes sense, thanks.
[11:12] <dns53> nils_ i believe it does, it might be the wrong package as well
[11:14] <Cafe> windows start-up direct a blue-screen after install ubuntu, anyone?
[11:14] <nils_> dns53: yeah it's the wrong package
[11:15] <SonWighFac9> goood morning people
[11:18] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:19] <BenSprz> hi all
[11:20] <BenSprz> i have a dualboot vista/ubuntu 10.04  the ubuntu does not find my wireless network I guess its a driver issue?
[11:20] <BenSprz> anybody any suggestions I'd appreciate it, thanks
[11:20] <lordb_> i need help Generating key in Ubuntu and obtaining fingerprint
[11:20] <lordb_> i ve used gpg
[11:22] <BenSprz> can anyone please suggest (in linux beginner terms...) what i have to do to get ubuntu 10.04 to find my wirelessnetwork
[11:22] <dns53> lordb_ do you want to use seahorse (gui) or the command line?
[11:22] <BenSprz> i can also (probably) access the windows vista partition and find the driver there?
[11:23] <dns53> take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:24] <BenSprz> dns53 thanks, will do now
[11:26] <sanoobep> i wish to about register free node?
[11:27] <varikonniemi> well, well. whoever said a zombie process is not normal here, thanks :/ i reinstalled ubuntu and it was there immediately adter booting from setup
[11:27] <varikonniemi> then i went and looked at my server and my laptop, they both also have it
[11:27] <varikonniemi> so i guess it is normal after all?
[11:31] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, first we need to determine what wifi chipset your wifi card hasd
[11:32] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: it a bcm4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:32] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: its a broadcom and it shows in lshw -C network
[11:33] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: should I give you the output of lshw?
[11:36] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:37] <jasox> Hi guys, I was wondering what font size (small/normal) do you use in ubuntu on 24" monitor(16:10) ?
[11:38] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:39] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, i would just folllow a Blog on how to get that chipset working. I found this one but will admit I am not familiar with that chipset. http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/ubuntu-11-10-getting-wireless-bcm4311-working/
[11:40] <OrderPicker> what happened to lib-apache2-mod-ssl in ubuntu lucid?
[11:40] <ubuntuaddicted> jasox, i wish I had that large of a monitor. lol I just use the default font since 5.04
[11:41] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: thanks I will try, Im trying to use the ubuntu manual at the moment but have little knowledge of commandline
[11:41] <jasox> ubuntuaddicted, :D I set small fonts, large fonts looks too large :/
[11:41] <RaeCarruth> ???
[11:42] <BenSprz> it seems the b43 driver is there somewhere, but i dont know how to load it/use it/turn it on correctly
[11:42] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, everything I have learned over the 6 years I have used Ubuntu has been at ubuntuforums.org and on IRC
[11:42] <OrderPicker> when tryning to install it with apt-get, apt-get replies: Couldn't find package libapache-mod-ssl
[11:43] <Guest14154> i have a query to configure dovecot can some one help me to sort out the error here is the mail.warn log Feb  1 16:38:05 dovecot: child 4531 (login) killed with signal 9
[11:43] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, WIFI drivers have been a sore spot in ubuntu for a long time. They add drivers to the linux kernel when they feel they are working BUT sometimes bugs get introduced which then make that driver which is built into the kernel not work. Sometimes you have to blacklist a module from loading and use a different driver (module)
[11:44] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, try to use sudo aptitude search apach2
[11:44] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: the blog you suggested didnt help me... sorry
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No reply....
[11:45] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, and which version of Ubuntu are you using
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No results
[11:45] <BenSprz> 10.04 lts
[11:45] <Guest14154> the same error is there in mail.err mail.log etc.
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, it may be built into another module. have you googled it?
[11:45] <wookienz> guy how do i disbale iommu, is it bios or kernel paramter?
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: yep
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, that's what I use still. one second, let me google it
[11:47] <Kuloto> #lurkmore
[11:48] <theadmin> wookienz: You need to boot with "iommu=off" on your kernel line, or recompile the kernel without IOMMU support at all.
[11:48] <wookienz> ok thanks
[11:48] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, you checked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html ?
[11:48] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: lshw says under configuration driver=b43-pci-bridge latency 0
[11:49] <BenSprz> and below it says *-network DISABLED
[11:49] <BenSprz> why?
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, I am sorry I can't help you specifically as I don't use wireless. :(  Check here: http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/ubuntu-10-04-and-broadcom-bcm43xx-wireless/
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> you need to enable networking
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> try this command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:50] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No results
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: THANX!
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: i am on my way!
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, thanx for what?
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, you use which version of Ubuntu
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: lucid...
[11:56] <Tom22> Hello.
[11:56] <bullgard4> gvfs-info differentiates »display name«, »edit name« and »name«. What are the differences?
[11:56] <Tom22> Can someone help me get my audio working?
[11:56] <bullgard4> !sound | Tom22
[11:58] <michaela> hello i have been wondering if it was possible to install linux without the inter net
[11:59] <michaela> and if its not than we should make a big ruckus to make it possible
[11:59] <norbert79> michaela: I think you are referring to alternative downloads. There is a Ubuntu DVD version, you might want to take a look at this: http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/
[12:00] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddict: i tried installing the bcmwl package from the live cd /poos/restricted/b/bcmwl but it said dkms dependency bad or somthing like that
[12:00] <theadmin> michaela: It is possible to install the standard Ubuntu CDs without being online, yes
[12:01] <michaela> theadmin how do you do that
[12:01] <theadmin> michaela: Just... boot and install like you normally do.
[12:01] <Tom22> Hi, I went through the troubleshoot on getting audio working, and still none of them apply to me. Can someone help?
[12:02] <michaela> thats mot much of an explanation theadmin
[12:02] <theadmin> michaela: ...Ubuntu installer doesn't require you to be online so you pretty much do all the same things as normally, what's not clear?
[12:03] <gogasan> Hello. I have a problem: my mouse driver sometimes don't work: mouse don't move, buttons are not working. So is it possible to reload drivers without reboot? Googled, nothing.
[12:03] <michaela> no when i install ubuntu it requires me to be online
[12:04] <theadmin> michaela: It doesn't, it suggests that for best installation experience, but you can proceed even if there's no connection present.
[12:04] <Tom22> Hello. My sound doesnt work. Tried 2 sets of speakers, soundcard detected, but unable to regulate volume in alsamixer. Have read troubleshoot guide, no help.
[12:06] <michaela> are you sure because if thats the case than i feel like an idiot
[12:06] <BenSprz> what does FATAL: Module wl not found mean after running the sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl command mean?
[12:06] <BenSprz> michaela: dont worry, so do I...
[12:07] <michaela> cool thanks ill try it
[12:07] <Tom22> sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[12:07] <Tom22> Sorry about that,
[12:07] <Tom22> didn't mean to paste that
[12:07] <natrixnatrix89> does anyone know where does gnome-control-center store the list of available wallpapers?
[12:07] <natrixnatrix89> I mean I want to add an xml with wallpaper changer to the available wallpaper list, but the gui version doesn't allow other files than pictures.. how do I add an xml to the list?
[12:08] <ndlovu> the ubiquity "Find Files" shortcut does not seem to be indexing all my files - only recently opened ones. Is this intentional, or can I set it to index everything?
[12:08] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[12:08] <Tom22> I've been having some problems with my sound. Alsamixer wont let me change the volume from MM (mute), but soundcard IS detected
[12:09] <natrixnatrix89> does anyone know how to add an xml to the wallpaper list in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:10] <bullgard4> Tom22: What happens if you click on »MM«?
[12:10] <jschoolcraft> tzdata is configured to EST on my server, but doesn't appear like cron is respecting TimeZone.  It's running 5 hours early (UTC for me, as I'm EST).  Am I missing something?
[12:11] <gogasan> No ideas about reload mouse driver without reboot?...
[12:11] <Tom22> bullgard4 Nothing, as alsamixer is cmd based. But I'm able to change the MM to 00 by pressing "M" on my keyboard. But unable to raise the volume from 00
[12:12] <Tom22> bullgard4 http://i40.tinypic.com/blteg.png
[12:14] <norbert79> Tom22: You are trying to change the setting of the headphone SENSE settings. That option won't go further, than muted/off and 00/ON
[12:14] <norbert79> Tom22: That's not a volume
[12:15] <Tom22> norbert76 so why isn't alsamixer showing my volume levels?
[12:15] <norbert79> Tom22: Might be because of incomplete support or other issues, but what I see is, that you only have three options listed. Press F5 and check all options
[12:16] <norbert79> if those are all, then you have not a full support of your soundcard, or there is another issue present
[12:16] <bullgard4> Tom22: If you are unable to raise the volume from 00 then it is a bug, I believe. Try again after  restarting the computer. If this still happens, I'd google if someone having your computer type else experienced the same mis-behaviour.. Or file a bug report in Launchpad.
[12:17] <norbert79> bullgard4: Sorry, but this is just a very generic, and wrong approach. it's not a bug, he only can just access limited features supported by the soundcard.
[12:17] <Tom22> bullgard4 & norbert79 thank you for your help. I'm going to get something to eat, will restart when I get back., F5 brought up some more options, but it doesn't seem like I'm able to raise any of the levels.
[12:18] <norbert79> Tom22: You might want to check F6, since I don't know if you have more, than 1 soundcard in your system
[12:18] <norbert79> Tom22: The current is an ESS ES1978
[12:19] <bullgard4> norbert79: "incomplete support" is a bug.
[12:19] <norbert79> bullgard4: Again, not true. If the kernel lacks a support of a specific hardware, it's not related to the Ubuntu distribution itself
[12:20] <norbert79> bullgard4: But as we have limited information it's hard to tell at this stage
[12:20] <norbert79> bullgard4: So I would avoid categorising the current situation as 'bug'
[12:23] <dddbmt> I've created a bash script. Is there any way to make a shortcut to it either in the unity sidebar or the unity topbar?
[12:24] <dddbmt> 11.10
[12:24] <lechienkitu> http://danstonchat.com/7272.html xD the first sentance "If you take a music for me, what's it ?"
[12:24] <lechienkitu> oh no
[12:24] <lechienkitu> if you would to say me what do you feel for me on music, what's it ?
[12:25] <lechienkitu> joke times ... done
[12:26] <BenSprz> I'm not making any progress on my wireless despite reading up in lots of forums, I get errors galore and no success, can somebody help me please
[12:28] <BenSprz> i use ubuntu 10.04, the wireless card is a bm43
[12:28] <reisio> bm43 always fun
[12:29] <BenSprz> reisio: any suggestions, please?
[12:29] <reisio> for what? Just got here
[12:29] <BenSprz> reisio: hello then
[12:29] <BenSprz> any suggestions on making the bm43 work
[12:29] <crizzy> doesn't 11.04/11.10 include working oss driver for bm43?
[12:30] <crizzy> i'd remember so
[12:30] <zgr> is it possible to determine dpi value in 11.10?
[12:30] <BenSprz> crizzy: you're saying? get a newer distro?
[12:30] <crizzy> yes
[12:31] <BenSprz> i kind of liked the lts idea with 10.04 though for i am new to this topic (as in linux...)
[12:31] <crizzy> sure
[12:31] <crizzy> but it also means it's already 2 years old
[12:31] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[12:31] <crizzy> with 2 years old drivers
[12:31] <reisio> think bm43 is still a formware party
[12:31] <reisio> see help.ubuntu.com
[12:32] <BenSprz> crizzy/reisio: the laptop is 5 years old, shouldnt a 2 year old distro have the proper drivers?
[12:32] <crizzy> open driver for these crappy chipsets didn't exist 2 years ago
[12:32] <reisio> it's a legal matter, IIRC
[12:32] <crizzy> so no
[12:32] <BenSprz> and: i checked help.ubuntu.com, i read lots, tried lots of commands, but to no avail
[12:33] <crizzy> BenSprz: and yes, i seemed to remember somewhat right: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/broadcom-releasing-fully-open-source-driver-wifi-driver/
[12:33] <crizzy> (this dated 5 months after LTS release)
[12:34] <crizzy> so 11.10 should have this for sure
[12:34] <crizzy> and besides, you can upgrade to 12.04 soonish pretty painlessly, it will be LTS too
[12:34] <BenSprz> crizzy: i did mean no offense, just trying to switch to linux and learn something while im at it
[12:34] <eQuiNoX__> hey guys i have an ejabberd server setup with two client IMs connected to it - im unable to transfer files from one to another. I get a "service unavailable" - doesnt ejabberd support file sending?
[12:35] <crizzy> BenSprz: well, yes, broadcom chipsets were one of the last 'painful' common hardware cases with linux, but just pick latest 11.10 rel and you should be ok
[12:35] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: Probably need to enable it somewhere, would make no sense to support that by default
[12:35] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: i see
[12:35] <eQuiNoX__> will look into the config, thanks theadmin !
[12:36] <AxonetBE> One day there was on smashing magazine a twitter post with  a website where people are telling witch tools they use for developing, somebody knows this website, because I cannot find it back.
[12:36] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: I beleive ejabberd has a web interface for configuration (or am I confusing it with something?)
[12:36] <crizzy> BenSprz: or, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx this might help. i'd still just go for newer distro and forget old problems
[12:36] <jschoolcraft> crontab isn't respecting configured timezone, anything I can check to figure out why (some setting I may have missed?)
[12:37] <dns53> jschoolcraft have you restarted your pc since changing time zone?
[12:37] <jschoolcraft> it's my server, but no, i haven't.
[12:37] <theadmin> jschoolcraft: Add TZ=your_timezone to the crontab before the entries.
[12:37] <theadmin> Or yes, reboot lol
[12:37] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: you're right, ejabberd's the one
[12:37] <dns53> jschoolcraft it checks it on boot
[12:38] <jschoolcraft> dns53: okay, will try that then.
[12:39] <crizzy> BenSprz: and if you're trying to 'convert' to linux, i'd recommend not to :) install dualboot, investigate linux, find out how to do things in linux, which ways to do things work best, etc. but don't try to forcefully 'convert'
[12:39] <reisio> dunno, I've had more success with the totally dive in approach
[12:39] <eQuiNoX__> hmm but its mostly stuff about ACL, access rules, virtual hosts, nodes, stats etc in the admin panel, theadmin
[12:39] <Lachezar> Hello people. What's an alternative to Ubuntu, that does not have Unity, Zeitgeist and is Keyborad-friendly?
[12:39] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: Hm, well, I dunno, sorry.
[12:40] <eQuiNoX__> lemme just take a quick look at the logs
[12:40] <crizzy> BenSprz: usually this only leads to eventually hitting some thing that works differently than what you're used to in windows / what you don't get working / and then you just get frurstrated
[12:40] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: np np, thanks for your help!
[12:40] <reisio> Lachezar: Ubuntu
[12:40] <theadmin> Lachezar: Err... We only support Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu here, we don't really discuss "alternatives"
[12:40] <reisio> Lachezar: you can forego Unity if you choose
[12:40] <Lachezar> Well... I was thiunking of Lubuntu/Xubuntu.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: Xubuntu is similar to Gnome2.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: Well, XFCE is.
[12:41] <Lachezar> But I am having tremendous problems with configuration.
[12:41] <theadmin> LXDE feels something like Windows 95 on the other hand
[12:41] <crizzy> unity is way more keyboard friendly than gnome2 ever was, though
[12:41] <Lachezar> Can't configure «Windows» button to open the start menu. (for instance).
[12:41] <Lachezar> crizzy: Bulls*it.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: In XFCE? Just bind the Super key to xfce4-menu-popup
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: In LXDE, I dunno.
[12:42] <BenSprz> crizzy: if i were to get frustrated easily I'd not be in this forum anymore. I'm trying to do exactly that: learning how to do things in linux
[12:42] <auronandace> !language | Lachezar
[12:43] <BenSprz> all the drivers and packages and such are installed, i can even "see" my network and configure it, but i cant connect
[12:46] <shiryak> русский
[12:46] <holms> ахуенно
[12:46] <norbert79> !russian | shiryak
[12:47] <holms> hi people. ubuntu lts in here. please help me to migrate on python 2.7. python --version shows 2.7.2 , how to force modwsgi to use newest version
[12:47] <holms> ubottu: trololo nice
[12:48]  * Lachezar takes language note seriously and apollogises for reacting hastely.
[12:48] <norbert79> Lachezar: Please check your personal messages...
[12:48] <holms> any support in here? =/
[12:48] <norbert79> !ask | holms
[12:48] <norbert79> and yes :)
[12:48] <norbert79> Btw regarding python: Well, Lucid came with 2.72
[12:48] <holms> well i ASKED already
[12:49] <holms> 13:47 < holms> hi people. ubuntu lts in here. please help me to migrate on python 2.7. python --version shows 2.7.2 , how to force modwsgi to use newest version
[12:49] <holms> norbert79: the one which is in production server - is not
[12:49] <holms> and i added some repo to src.list
[12:49] <holms> now installed linked, works
[12:49] <holms> but how to force mod_Wsgi to use it
[12:50] <holms> reinstalled mod_wsgi , didn't help
[12:50] <norbert79> holms: Is mod_Wsgi part of...?
[12:50] <norbert79> holms: Is this a part of the Ubuntu system?
[12:50] <holms> well it's apart of apt-get (crappy packed) repo
[12:50] <holms> which is done everything in another way how author created
[12:50] <Lachezar> crizzy: The fact that I can not reconfigure keyboard shortcuts multiplies «Unity Keyboard Friendliness Coefficient» with ZERO.
[12:51] <holms> so you ubuntu responsible for this
[12:51] <dr_willis> how vague
[12:51] <Lachezar> I am still unable to assing Win+T to terminal. In my language Win+T is bound to Кошче, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever :-/
[12:51] <norbert79> holms: There is no 'we ubuntu'... If you want to get help, well first a detailed infor on the package and the ways you did would be helpful, and second, the dpkg/apt-cache can also tell you the author of the package too
[12:51] <dr_willis> the update-alternatived system defines what versions are the defaults i belive
[12:52] <dr_willis> there nay be some guides on askubuntu.com on usung different versions of python
[12:53] <Lachezar> mod_wsgi seems to require (re)compilation against the appropriate runtime version.
[12:53] <norbert79> holms: Anyway, to make things clear, you are talking about holms: libapache2-mod-wsgi and that package is depending on libpython2.6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.6), python (<< 2.7)
[12:53] <holms> yea i saw that =/
[12:53] <holms> so it's the only way?
[12:53] <holms> then I need probably to install in apache mods-enable by my self too
[12:53] <holms> ehrr
[12:54] <norbert79> holms: Since python 2.6* is supported for Lucid, I am still riddled how you managed getting 2.7.2
[12:54] <holms> poython 2.6 - IS DEAD
[12:54] <Lachezar> holms: Well... I can see a few different python*wsgi packages, that refer to different python versions.
[12:54] <norbert79> holms: So I would assume you used a PPA for getting a later python, but you tried to use the internal module, which only supports 2.6
[12:54] <holms> norbert79: so i've already installed python 2.7
[12:55] <holms> root@li270-125:/# python --version
[12:55] <holms> Python 2.7.2
[12:55] <holms> done
[12:55] <norbert79> holms: Sure, now you only need to get the module compiled for 2.7.2 too
[12:55] <holms> but wsgi doesn't see it
[12:55] <norbert79> since Lucid supports for wsgi only python 2.6*
[12:56] <holms> http://pastebin.com/6hm0q4t8
[12:56] <holms> norbert79: now that's lol
[12:56] <holms> 2.6 is out of date
[12:56] <norbert79> holms: Not really
[12:56] <holms> even datetime functions works differently
[12:56] <norbert79> holms: Lucid came with 2.6. If you wish having a more recent version you need to go to Python for providing the deb packages for you using Lucid, or you need to compile the module on your own
[12:57] <norbert79> holms: I would suggest reading apt-cache show libapache2-mod-wsgi and check the line 'Depends on'
[12:58] <holms> norbert79:
[12:58] <holms> Depends: apache2, apache2.2-common, libc6 (>= 2.4), libpython2.6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.6), python (<< 2.7)
[12:58] <norbert79> holms: Here is the link to the WSGI page: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DownloadTheSoftware?tm=2
[12:59] <Lachezar> holms: There seems to be a WSGIPythonHome directive. Maybe this can help?
[12:59] <norbert79> Lachezar: Might cause issues, since the module was compiled for 2.6
[12:59] <holms> hm let'see
[12:59] <norbert79> Lachezar: So I would not recommend that, but compiling it against 2.7
[13:00] <norbert79> Or upgrading to later Ubuntu versions
[13:00] <Lachezar> norbert79: I agree (generally). The WSGIPythonExecutable and WSGIPythonHome might help trying.
[13:02] <TheYsNoi> hello
[13:02] <norbert79> Lachezar: Well, indeed worth trying, but I wouldn't assume a failure free result :)
[13:02] <PatwoperAndroid> test
[13:02] <norbert79> PatwoperAndroid: Works! :)
[13:02] <Lachezar> norbert79: *shrug* Yes, probably will fail, but it does not hurt trying...
[13:02] <norbert79> lol
[13:03] <knytm4r3> hi there
[13:03] <TheYsNoi> same here...now working
[13:04] <Tom22> Hi norbert79 & bullgard4 . I'm back. I have 2 sound chips in there. 1 on board, and 1 sound card. I bought the sound card because the on board wasn't working properly with Ubuntu
[13:04] <norbert79> Tom22: Hah, as I assumed... Why don't you switch the soundcard using F6 in your alsa-mixer then, and check if the volumes work there
[13:05] <norbert79> Tom22: just as generic reminder: make sure your speakers are attached to your soundcard
[13:05] <norbert79> Tom22: And it would have been worth trying to check your BIOS on your motherboard based soundcard which settings it had set
[13:06] <Tom22> norbert79 right, f6 brings up a menu with 3 options:
[13:07] <Tom22> [13:07] <Tom22> -   (default)
[13:07] <Tom22> 0  ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E)
[13:07] <FloodBot1> Tom22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <Tom22>      enter device name...
[13:07] <norbert79> Tom22: Chill for a bit, floodbot didn't like you :) Send me the message in a form of /msg
[13:07] <Tom22> norbert79 :) ok
[13:09] <IamTrying> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on "Dell Inspiron One" ? (all drivers works?)
[13:10] <hyperstream> IamTrying, i did a Inspiron 8200 the other day :P mega pain.
[13:11] <Lachezar> Oh. While I'm at it: I am having trouble running Ubuntu (From USB) on my new home computer: I get 'Boot failure' and do not reach GRUB at all.
[13:11] <IamTrying> hyperstream, pain???? what do you mean nothing supports or do not get installed or you just unable to complete
[13:11] <Lachezar> Tried using the 'Live USB Maker', and tried manually installing GRUB to the USB stick. Windows 7 USB boots :(
[13:12] <Ramonskie> when i burn or put the ubuntu server 10.10 on usb and i put it in my machine i get redirected to gnu grub 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3. and can't do anything also the list of command when pressing TAB is confussing
[13:13] <hyperstream> IamTrying, well the touchpad and the little stick thing in the middle of the keyboard was working properly pulling to one side etc. USB mouse didnt help. That was the hardest part of the installation. I also had to install from grub menu rather than livecd enviroment(failed most the way through).
[13:13] <hyperstream> IamTrying, what issue are you having champ ?
[13:13] <Lachezar> Can I install Lubuntu «on top» of my regular Ubuntu?
[13:14] <Lachezar> I know I can do it with Xubuntu (installinf xfce-desktop).
[13:14] <meberhart> you could dual boot
[13:14] <meberhart> or do you just want the DE?
[13:16] <Pici> Lachezar: sure.
[13:17] <Pici> Lachezar: lxde-core depends on the core components of the desktop, or you can choose to install lubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <Lachezar> Pici: Common Ubuntu repository, or do I need to add another one?
[13:18] <IamTrying> hyperstream, i got USB keyboard and USB mouse and CD-ROM. So i hope no worries to format first? :)
[13:18] <Pici> Lachezar: Everything is in the regular Ubuntu repos.
[13:18] <Lachezar> Pici: nice... One good news item in some time :)
[13:19] <hyperstream> IamTrying, If live cd works, id be feeling confident in the format and install. How ever, not everything goes to plan ;/
[13:19] <spop> MSG ubuntu
[13:19] <hyperstream> IamTrying, err, sometimes things dont always go as planned*
[13:19] <spop> a
[13:20] <hyperstream> spop: dont its a trick!!
[13:20] <Lachezar> Doh... This bug with aptitude not showing correct package states is seriously hindering me :(
[13:20] <IamTrying> hyperstream, OK i cross my finger in 33 direction hope it get installed and i dont lose touch / other drivers.
[13:20] <aLeSD|> hi
[13:20] <Panpan_> Please where I can find all chat's channel ?
[13:20] <LjL> !alis > Panpan_
[13:20] <hyperstream> IamTrying, :) What do you have on it now? How big is the hard drive at current? How much free space?
[13:21] <IamTrying> hyperstream, i just bought it now, its i5 cpu, 6gb ram, 500gb space. Running windows 7 64-bit. Will remove it with Ubuntu 64-bit as a test drive.
[13:22] <hyperstream> IamTrying,  Oh man, ahah my 8200 is like 512MB ram, old school. That machine should fly with ubuntu on it.
[13:23] <hyperstream> IamTrying, just dual boot it for peace of mind if you want. Install it next to your windows. Or use some sort of a partitioning software to shrink your main partition to free up some space to place ubuntu on its own.
[13:23] <Panpan_> !alis
[13:23] <IamTrying> hyperstream, OK thank you, if trouble i will knock here back :)
[13:23] <mivulf> hmmm. which folder on ubuntu is analogy for Program Files? opt?
[13:23] <Ramonskie> when i burn or put the ubuntu server 10.10 on usb and i put it in my machine i get redirected to gnu grub 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3. and can't do anything also the list of command when pressing TAB is confussing
[13:23] <hyperstream> IamTrying, sure thing, should be here for another hour or so :)
[13:24] <Panpan_> ok thanks how i can enter inside ?
[13:24] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, what are you trying to achieve with the USB key ? an install or repair ?
[13:24] <Ramonskie> install but i also tried it with a cd same result
[13:25] <hyperstream> Panpan_, you use /join #channel
[13:25] <newcode> Can I install a specific version of php using apt-get?
[13:25] <hyperstream> Ramonskie,  Is there a previous version of ubuntu installed ?
[13:25] <jatt> yes
[13:25] <jatt> !pinning
[13:26] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, nope cleared all disks i even deleted the raid volumes
[13:26] <Panpan_> ok thanks you guys
[13:26] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, is this a 'Live' USB ? and the cd was also a live cd ?
[13:27] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, just downloaded the 10.10 server iso and burned it to cd
[13:28] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, ahh, just to make sure, you are planning to use this as a desktop ?
[13:28] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, and with the usb i rtied unetbootin or and the diskcreator
[13:28] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, its weird cause you should be prompted with a screen where you can choose what you want to do. IE: live cd | install | check for defects etc
[13:28] <ericandrewlewis> is it ill-advised to buy an apple computer if i'm planning on using ubuntu in the future?
[13:29] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, no the is going to be a server, i had the 10.04 installed but there where alot of problems with the network card so i wiped the thing i wanted to start with a newer version
[13:29]  * ericandrewlewis is aware of dual booting / partitioning
[13:30] <PhorceP> Ramonskie: I believe 10.10 will become unsupported in April, so it may not be the best choice of versions
[13:30] <dr_willis> ericandrewlewis:  why pay the extra $if you dont need osx
[13:30] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, ahh, im afraid its out of my reach. From what i've semi gathered/pictured, i figured there was an old ubuntu grub loader that is kicking over instead of booting from CD or USB (BIOS Boot order)
[13:30] <ericandrewlewis> dr_willis b/c i've become accustomed to osx over the past 7 years, and the applications built on it
[13:31] <dr_willis> ericandrewlewis:  you just as
[13:31] <jatt> actually apple machines are popular among some linux (kernel) developers afaik
[13:31] <Ramonskie> PhorceP, the newer version has some dependency that dont work with cloudfoundry setup
[13:31] <dr_willis> ansewered your iwn question then
[13:31] <reisio> ericandrewlewis: Linux supports Apple hardware well
[13:31] <hyperstream> ericandrewlewis, its what you make of your OS :)
[13:31] <holms> osx have macports no problem to work in there who need photoshop, especially web devs :P
[13:31] <dr_willis> if yiu need osx.. buy apple
[13:31] <ericandrewlewis> just wondering if there's any practical issues with using ubuntu on mac hardware, no then?
[13:31] <reisio> they're just expensive because of their trendiness
[13:32] <reisio> not really no
[13:32] <holms> reisio: don't flame about apple in here. if not pro you don't need apple =)
[13:32] <dr_willis> marketing
[13:32] <jatt> they are pretty well built machines
[13:32] <reisio> who's flaming
[13:32] <holms> jatt++
[13:32] <ericandrewlewis> k thanks reisio holms dr_willis
[13:32] <holms> reisio: because it's not a trent and not overpriced
[13:32] <holms> those who buying to browse the web are idiots
[13:32] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, i thought that was the problem also but when i removed the cd or usb it just tells me that there is nothing installed :)
[13:32] <reisio> they are well built, just not twice the price well built
[13:33] <holms> but those who buying them for media pro software, for exmaple logic studio (and coreaudio in osx have 3x better latency)
[13:33] <holms> it's the way to go
[13:33] <holms> coreaudio implemented on kernel level
[13:33] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, What happeneds if you select the default option (or there is none ?) <-- you said you had a grub screen etc.
[13:33] <holms> windows it's on userland, which is 12-15ms latency instead of 3ms
[13:33] <holms> reisio: one of the reason to have it for me. and ofcourse shell+photoshop :P
[13:33] <holms> i used hackintosh on my pc for 2 years :P
[13:34] <holms> ok sorry for flame ;D
[13:34] <holms> done
[13:34] <hyperstream> lol
[13:34] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.04; I changed my cursor in Appearance, and it's only showing a difference when it's hovering over links/window borders
[13:34] <jtannenbaum> otherwise it's the usual white cursor
[13:35] <silver_hook> I want to upgrade 10.04 → 11.10, do I have to upgrade version by version and if so, do I have to reboot in between updates?
[13:35] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, move the mouse to the white part where its not working, grab the correct colored marker and color it in on the screen. Its working, but please dont move it.
[13:35] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, i donn't have any options it just tells me that i can press the TAB button to see the list of commands.  but when i use the command "ls" it shows me {memdisk} {hd0} {hd1} and nothing further
[13:35] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, joking, are you using gnome ?
[13:35] <jtannenbaum> yea
[13:35] <mdupont> hi all
[13:35] <LjL> silver_hook: yes, and yes. maybe it would be better to wait until Precise is out, and upgrade directly to that.
[13:35] <silver_hook> 12.04? Why?
[13:36] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, i would try rebooting (if you havnt) sometimes things are just a little funky and is fixed when reloaded.
[13:36] <jtannenbaum> mm, thanks
[13:36] <silver_hook> Will that be LTS again
[13:36] <LjL> silver_hook: because 12.04 will be LTS like 10.04, so you can upgrade directly to it without going version-by-version
[13:37] <mdupont> i am just trying to upgrade to to use nvidia, on oneric, and now i am dropped down to irrssi. the kernel module nivida-current-updates is not found , any suggestions?
[13:37] <silver_hook> LjL: Thanks for the idea. I guess we'll just wait for these two months :]
[13:37] <reisio> failsafe login?
[13:38] <babalu> hello, is there a tool that allows to send screenshots directly to imgur?
[13:39] <reisio> there are probably scripts
[13:39] <babalu> reisio: i want to be able to upload just a part of my screen
[13:40] <LjL> babalu: KSnapshot supports a few sites, but not imgur :(
[13:40] <eden6000> Is it something you have to do frequently?
[13:40] <babalu> eden6000: yes
[13:41] <babalu> LjL: which websites? and how to use this functionnality?
[13:41] <eden6000> babalu: try this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/quickly-upload-images-to-imgur-via-nautilus/
[13:42] <babalu> eden6000: you'd have to have the images already saved on your desktop
[13:43] <LjL> babalu: Zooomr, Flickr, 23, Piwigo, SmugMug, Shwup, Debian Screenshots, Picasa, Gallery, Facebook
[13:43] <eden6000> mmm...yes...
[13:43] <jdhfr> how to upgrade on next release?
[13:43] <LjL> babalu: i'm also finding hints that the Pastebin plasmoid for KDE allows exporting to imgur, but you'd need the KDE desktop for that
[13:43] <bazhang> !upgrade > jdhfr
[13:43] <babalu> LjL: i have kde, so what should i do?
[13:43] <jdhfr> i don;t have a browser
[13:44] <babalu> what i'm looking for is HyperDesktop http://imgur.com/tools , however, when i start installing it with wine, i get a warning saying that there are more suitable tools for *nix systems, without giving any other precisions
[13:44] <LjL> babalu: press the PrintScreen key
[13:44] <robertzaccour> I put in a cd and no music to be found. any suggestions? yes it is a music cd
[13:44] <LjL> babalu: take a screenshot, then press Send, and that'll allow you to select one of those sites
[13:44] <jason404> is there a setting/hotkey which makes less show the percentage or line-number/total-lines in a text files, so you know how far into it you are?
[13:45] <babalu> LjL: i can only "Send to..." applications (like gwenview)
[13:45] <reisio> babalu: there's a Linux util father down the page
[13:45] <LjL> babalu: uhm, weird, maybe it's a plugin, let me look.
[13:45] <eden6000> http://sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/
[13:46] <babalu> oh i missed that one, thanks :)
[13:46] <babalu> LjL: cool thanks
[13:46] <eden6000> just try....I don't use imgur :-)
[13:46] <LjL> babalu: well i don't know, the APT package description doesn't say what package you need for sending. maybe it's "kipi-plugins" but i'm not sure. you can also add the Pastebin plasmoid to your panel or desktop, and use that - it supports imgur, i just checked.
[13:46] <reisio> eden6000: what do you use?
[13:47] <mdupont> ok well thanks for all the advice people.
[13:47] <jdhfr> can someone just tell me a command to upgrade release?
[13:47] <eden6000> I don't use any image sharer at all :-)
[13:47] <claudios> ciao
[13:47] <claudios> !list
[13:47] <reisio> ah :)
[13:47] <bazhang> jdhfr, its still two months to release
[13:48] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support jdhfr
[13:48] <x00110110> !help
[13:48] <babalu> LjL: is there an important reason as to why ksnapshot doesn't support imgur?
[13:48] <LjL> babalu: no idea
[13:49]  * quiescens dies.
[13:50] <reisio> heh
[13:50] <lotrpy> let us revive you with some magic
[13:50] <mdupont> well it looks like i did not have the kernel sources installed, that is why the DKMS failed
[13:50] <mdupont> at least that was the message
[13:50] <robertzaccour> Is there a reason why my CDs aren't being recognized?
[13:50] <robertzaccour> I mean they're there in the home folder, but I open them and its empty
[13:50] <reisio> babalu: I bet you can find a script/patch for it
[13:50] <reisio> try asking #kde
[13:50] <LjL> babalu: someone was trying to add it, at least, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224893
[13:51] <quiescens> mdupont: you don't usually need the kernel sources for dkms, but you do need the headers at least
[13:51] <babalu> i've tried the pastebin plasmoid it's working well :)
[13:51] <babalu> thanks for all the suggestions
[13:51] <reisio> bugs are nice, but don't assume because there's one that nobody's made the script yet, it's a bug internet
[13:52] <reisio> big :p
[13:52] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: what do you mean?
[13:53] <babalu> which image sharing websites do people recommend?
[13:53] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: mounted CD's would be in /media
[13:53] <reisio> babalu: imgur :p
[13:53] <jdhfr> i don't really care what support are where, i need my system on now. could someone show alittle consideration and give out command?
[13:53] <babalu> lol :)
[13:53] <reisio> imageshack got too annoying
[13:53] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: I put in any cd, try to import it into a media player, it shows the cd folder empty. Then I try to access the cd files in the home folder. empty. I just did a fresh install, so I'm gonna download and install again in case the file was corrupt.
[13:53] <babalu> true
[13:54] <reisio> jdhfr: what's the problem?
[13:54] <LjL> jdhfr: the fact that *you* don't care says nothing about what this channel should do.
[13:54] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: what cd player are you using?
[13:54] <jdhfr> reisio: i need command for release upgrade
[13:54] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: amarok, clementine
[13:55] <reisio> bet the bot knows it
[13:55] <bazhang> jdhfr, it's alpha
[13:55] <Pici> jdhfr: to what release?
[13:55] <melvincv> Where do I learn about ubuntu server, online?
[13:55] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: have you tried VCL?
[13:56] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: The home folder says the disc is empty, what could any player do?
[13:56] <jdhfr> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10", next one after this
[13:56] <reisio> VLC is easily the best GUI multi-media player on any OS
[13:56] <shisha42> .71.14.254
[13:56] <LjL> jdhfr: there isn't a release after that. there will be in April.
[13:56] <TheYsNoi> VLC is great
[13:56] <reisio> mplayer the best without GUI :)
[13:56] <PhorceP> reisio: not really, since it doesn't utilize more than one core
[13:56] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: VCL can open CDs through the GUI
[13:57] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: the mounted CD wouldn't be in your home folder
[13:57] <reisio> I'm sure it can
[13:57] <mdupont> [5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[A[A[A[B[B[C[C[D[D//q
[13:57] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: to mount a CD manually, try: "sudo mkdir /media/cd ; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cd"
[13:58] <reisio> use /mnt/ for manual mounts
[13:58] <PhorceP> reisio: I've watched it peg a single CPU to 100%, then played the same video in XBMC where both cores are clearly being utilized
[13:58] <samba35> how do i run (execute) xxxx.run  file
[13:59] <jatt> what does
[13:59] <jatt> file xxxx.run
[13:59] <jatt> say
[14:00] <samba35> i have chnage permission +x and ./file name it give me error
[14:00] <iceroot> samba35: chmod +x xxxx.run  then ./xxxx.run
[14:00] <reisio> PhorceP: and I prefer mplayer, but as an ordinary GUI player, VLC is the best, even if it doesn't necessarily utilize multiple cores ATM (which I doubt somewhat)
[14:00] <iceroot> !details | samba35
[14:00]  * reisio shrugs
[14:02] <samba35> it give me error cant execute binay file
[14:02] <robertzaccour> VLC is playing it fine :) perhaps KDE is just weird about media. How do I organize playlists in vlc?
[14:04] <dddbmt> How do I update Firefox from 9.0.1 to the newest? I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[14:04] <LjL> !info firefox
[14:04] <woozly> does apt-get has packages? want to install web-dev (apache, php, phpmyadmin... etc)
[14:04] <LjL> !latest | dddbmt
[14:05] <theadmin> !lamp | woozly
[14:08] <Lam0r> hi
[14:08] <DinoMuffin> howdy
[14:08] <Lam0r> deutsche hier ?
[14:08] <DinoMuffin> probably not
[14:09] <jatt> !de
[14:11] <Vlady> Hi all
[14:12] <DinoMuffin> hi
[14:14] <mdupont> ok quiescens that was it, need to install the exact mathching header files.
[14:14] <mdupont> thanks bai
[14:14] <mdupont> \q
[14:14] <jdhfr> why ibuntu dont do differential updastrs? is it at all possinlwe with debs?
[14:15] <DinoMuffin> what?
[14:16] <jdhfr> rpm systems do download small files, can deb ones do the same and why ubuntu doesnt?
[14:17] <DinoMuffin> jdhfr: I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do. Is something not updating properly?
[14:19] <jdhfr> ubuntu download whole packettes when upgrading, can i make her download difference files only, like rpm packettes in fedora etc?
[14:19] <iceroot> jdhfr: no
[14:19] <dlentz> jdhfr, you're referring to delta rpm's and deb doesn't have euivalent
[14:19] <iceroot> jdhfr: there are no delta-packages on debian bases systems
[14:20] <jdhfr> sad is it impossibl e completely? :(
[14:20] <iceroot> jdhfr: its not possible to have deltas
[14:20] <byfay> hallow
[14:20] <byfay> im newbie
[14:21] <byfay> can some one help me
[14:21] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a sticky notes something for gnome 3?
[14:21] <dlentz> !ask | byfay
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> !ask | ubottu
[14:22] <hyperstream> ut-oh
[14:29] <xro> Hi, i installed ubuntu 10.04 in a VMware server... I installed the vm-tools but i cannot have my vm in full screen... why? have an idea?
[14:30] <fishcooker> hello fellas..
[14:30] <fishcooker> i've come with netmos tech pci 9865..
[14:31] <fishcooker> anyone have same problem to make it works with ubuntu?
[14:31] <babalu> how can i get a good security for my computer? is there to know whether or not my computer is keylogged?
[14:31] <LjL> !crosspost | babalu
[14:32] <babalu> LjL: sorry
[14:32] <TotalSwitch> lo
[14:32] <aLeSD|> mmm
[14:32] <LjL> babalu: you can install rkhunter and chkrootkit to check for some common malware, you can also enable a firewall
[14:32] <aLeSD|> my ubuntu stops forever to the ubuntu starting system image
[14:32] <aLeSD|> and I have to sudo service lightdm start
[14:33] <aLeSD|> I think I have not lightdm in the rc ...
[14:34] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member
[14:35] <bazhang> !ru | propellerdnk
[14:35] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member
[14:35] <bazhang> propellerdnk, #ubuntu-ru
[14:35] <propellerdnk> тщ
[14:35] <propellerdnk> no !
[14:36] <bazhang> propellerdnk, here is english
[14:36] <jpds> propellerdnk: You were asking this yesterday.
[14:36] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member   ,   no #ubuntu-ru
[14:36] <babalu> i interrupted an install of sudo apt-get install, by closing the Konsole running it; now i can't start apt-get anywhere else
[14:37] <ikonia> propellerdnk: #ubuntu-ru - or not at all
[14:37] <deel> Hi please see my question here http://askubuntu.com/questions/100509/how-to-type-in-indic-language-from-english-us-keyboard
[14:37] <jpds> propellerdnk: вы уже знаете где наитй помошь.
[14:37] <xro> I'm the only guy that cannot put ubuntu in full screen in his VMware server?
[14:37] <Onigiri> Well that was annoying... apparently I can't just give the installer the dns name for the iscsi portal during install... it needs the ip or the machine won't come up on first boot. ._.
[14:38] <prower> hello everyone :> i'm still having a weird dvd burning issue in 11.10 that has existed in my case since...i believe 9.04. though my burner supports speeds of up to 18x (as do the dvd-r's that i'm using), wodim in k3b reports that my burner doesn't support speeds of 18x and downgrades right to 4x :< this is not a problem in any other linux distribution i use, nor windows...anyone know what...
[14:38] <prower> ...might be going on here?
[14:38] <sandy19> hey can some one help me on xampp installation
[14:38] <ikonia> sandy19: what are you trying to install ?
[14:38] <bazhang> sandy19, xampp is not supported, use lamp
[14:39] <sandy19> oh yes lamp on 64 bit ubuntu
[14:40] <sandy19> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918594
[14:40] <sandy19> here is my problem i tried to install lamp
[14:40] <ikonia> sandy19: how did you try to install lamp
[14:40] <jrib> !lamp | sandy19
[14:40] <jrib> ikonia: according to his forum post, he's trying to use xampp
[14:41] <ikonia> jrib: and yet he's in here saying lamp......
[14:41] <babalu> i get an error message when i start apt-get, that says that there is a lock
[14:41] <babalu> what can i do?
[14:41] <prower> i'd think twice about using python as a web-app development language in ubuntu, considering some of the problems with the basic functioning in the version of python 2.x in 11.10 :<
[14:41] <jrib> prower: what problems/
[14:41] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[14:42] <prower> jrib: i'll give a demonstration if you'd like! just open up a terminal and run python as the interactive interpreter
[14:42] <jrib> prower: yes?
[14:42] <prower> jrib: alright, now type help(), then modules
[14:42] <eikke> I just provisioned an Oneiric machine using Ubuntu Orchestra using the default profile
[14:43] <eikke> now I'm wondering: what are the username/password to use?!
[14:43] <prower> jrib: you should see a segfault
[14:43] <prower> i'm not trying to be insulting by the way, i've been contributing to information on the bug on launchpad :>
[14:43] <sipior> prower: works fine here.
[14:44] <prower> sipior: really? That's interesting...are you using unity or kde? 32-bit or 64-bit?
[14:44] <prower> (this information could really help)
[14:44] <sipior> prower: server install, 64-bit.
[14:44] <ikonia> the desktop shouldn't matter
[14:45] <prower> sipior: aha...the segfault occurs when parts of gtk are installed, that's probably why you don't see it...and as ikonia says on a server you're probably not going to have desktop stuff installed anyway :> that's good to know though, a little bit closer to what the problem might be
[14:46] <sipior> prower: i do have a fair bit of gtk installed, but it's possible there's a package or two missing. in any event, you say you've submitted a bug report.
[14:47] <jdhfr> why is bluetiith built in ubuntu?
[14:47] <sipior> jdhfr: why wouldn't it be?
[14:48] <jdhfr> because it's optional hardware
[14:48] <ikonia> jdhfr: it doesn't get loaded if there is no blue tooth hardware
[14:48] <sipior> jdhfr: fairly common optional hardware, you mean.
[14:48] <prower> sipior: oh yes, the bug is in there...it hasn't been assigned to anyone yet but it's there :> it's just a bit discouraging to have some of the basic functionality of python broken when you're writing apps in it...particularly for new users to python, a lot of tutorials direct you to help() modules and on a typical 64-bit, unity installation that causes a crash :/ it'll all be fixed in time though
[14:49] <LjL> jdhfr: most hardware is "optional", that doesn't mean Ubuntu shouldn't have built-in support for it.
[14:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:50] <jdhfr> it should not have unremovable support i belibe?
[14:50] <deel> \q
[14:50] <ikonia> jdhfr: it is
[14:50] <deel> quit
[14:50] <ikonia> jdhfr: you can remove the software you don't want, and the modules don't get loaded unless there is bluetooth hardware in the machine
[14:51] <shisha42> <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: ?
[14:51] <shisha42> <IP_ADDRESS>:6667
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: stop that
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: do you need Ubuntu help ?
[14:51] <jdhfr> well i tried remove bluez stuff but my desktop applications going with it :(
[14:51] <ikonia> jdhfr: no they don't
[14:51] <sandy19> hello guys i tried to follow the tutorial given by bot
[14:51] <ikonia> jdhfr: and to be honest it takes up approx 1.2 meg of disk space, why do you care
[14:51] <sandy19> but failed
[14:52] <ikonia> sandy19: you need to give more information than "it failed"
[14:52] <sandy19> ok my os : ubuntu 11.10 (64bit)
[14:53] <sandy19> i download the lamp
[14:53] <prower> i'll try to dig up information on the bug so that if anyone experiences it here they can report it as well :> just need to figure out why my sound suddenly stopped working first, bbl
[14:53] <ikonia> sandy19: how did you download lamp ?
[14:53] <sandy19> tar ball file
[14:53] <ikonia> sandy19: no - there is no tar ball in those instructions
[14:53] <ikonia> !lamp
[14:53] <no_gravity> Hello! When trying to conntect to a wifi spot and it fails - is there any way to see what went wrong?
[14:53] <ttt-4> hi, i get a kernel panic when booting into ubuntu. How can i find out what is wrong or how to fix it?
[14:54] <ikonia> ttt-4: read the info on screen to get an idea
[14:54] <iggymydog> i need help getting minecraft to work on my computer....i have java jkd but it says that minecraft isent exucutable......wtf?
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: show me where in that document it says "download a tar ball"
[14:54] <twright> no_gravity: it will usually be something authentication related
[14:54] <sandy19> i installed xampp from here --> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: that's not the link you where given in here
[14:54] <ttt-4> only the end of the stack is printed on the screen. I couldnt make anything of it, ikonia