[10:37] <lee> how do you tell what version of gcc was used to compile your kernel?  the nvidia installer is complaining about differences but doesn't say what versions are involved
[10:37] <Battlestar> ok permissions changed
[10:38] <robotgeek> lee: cat /proc/version
[10:38] <theine> levander, your entitled to your opinion but do accept that many people (at least in here) don't share it...
[10:38] <lee> aww damnit, I was looking in /proc/sys/kernel =)
[10:38] <theine> Battlestar, congratulations
[10:38] <lee> thanks =)
[10:38] <levander> theine: cool, i was just asking why, i wasn't trying to make you agree
[10:38] <Battlestar> theine: thanks for the help, i'll just verify that it's working now
[10:39] <sudharsh> !gpg
[10:39] <ubotu> I heard gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[10:39] <shirish> Madpilot: I tried to get a profile of Azz but failed to do, can you help me?
[10:39] <Psi-Jack> ALRIGHTY! I got my printer to work. Just can't find out what or where to put it's intended testpage at. heh
[10:39] <sudharsh> !sudharsh
[10:39] <ubotu> sudharsh: Are you on ritalin?
[10:39] <theine> levander, I was just opposed to your suggestion to a newbie to Linux to first dig up on "ls" before doing anything else...
[10:39] <Madpilot> shirish: just a second
[10:40] <MachineScrew> !MachineScrew
[10:40] <ubotu> MachineScrew: I don't know
[10:40] <levander> theine: don't know what you mean by "dig up", i suggested he read a tutorial on a shell.  Something that should take max, an hour.
[10:41] <sudharsh> oh boy this is fun
[10:41] <theine> levander, I know that it's not particularily hard but some people seem to be scared by the command line and I don't see a reason to scare them away
[10:41] <Madpilot> !botabuse
[10:41] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:42] <sudharsh> lol
[10:42] <hawking> I don't have bluetooth or any printing service and I don't want to start them at startup how can i do that?
[10:43] <shiris1> Madpilot: were I able to get any info about "azz"
[10:43] <adrian15> well.. i want to modify https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show to add the method of using Super Grub Disk (which restores grub on mbr automatically) but I don't know if adding it as the first option or as an alternate option. Is there any wiki leader than can guide me... which is the best option ?
[10:43] <Madpilot> shiris1: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=844
[10:43] <levander> theine: but, for people who are going to be scared of the shell, what's the point of them using linux?  Linux is a lot more flexible and complicated to configure.  Why wouldn't they just use Windows?
[10:44] <mae> hi  - what is a commandline flac player?
[10:44] <bnD> can anyone help me out? if i install in any method other than the default i end up with a 1024x798 resolution tho my monitor is supposed to be 1440x900 .. its set to 1440x900 in xorg.conf
[10:44] <theine> levander, it's not necessarily complicated to configure. Ubuntu worked right out of the box on my laptop without configuring anything
[10:44] <levander> bnD: is 1440x900 available in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?
[10:44] <sudharsh> levander coz winblow$ is too weak..
[10:45] <levander> theine: yeah, the intially install process is easy, but eventually you get an error message, or want to change something
[10:45] <theine> levander, also, Windows XP is just ugly
[10:45] <shiris1> Madpilot: thanks, would connect him & give u'r name as a reference. Hopefully the wiki becomes more clear because of our interaction or something
[10:45] <lapducky> Has mplayer been removed from the Breezy repositories?
[10:45] <JoeBlow> anyone had any luck with quake 2 native install?
[10:45] <crimsun> lapducky: multiverse.
[10:45] <theine> levander, well that's true for Windows as well
[10:45] <JoeBlow> lapducky, it hasnt
[10:45] <NickZA> how do I "alt-tab" from a fullscreen vnc session ?
[10:45] <levander> theine: no, you uninstall and reinstall to fix things in Windows, you don't have to know anything
[10:46] <Madpilot> shiris1: you can also join the ubuntu-doc mailing list if you've got questions or contributions
[10:46] <theine> levander, and after a while your operating system is so fucked up that you can barely use it anymore...
[10:46] <Bamm`laptop> Okay guys this argument is centuries old, I would suggest a simple google query along the lines of "why linux over windows" etc :P
[10:46] <lapducky> crimsun, I've got Multiverse, (and Universe) and none of the mplayer packages are showing up in apt-cache after I do apt-get update.
[10:46] <JoeBlow> its the wierdest things when i install quake 2, from the launcher i push start and it lets me play, but when i go to the icon to run it, it opens the window,and freezes before anything happens
[10:46] <theine> levander, I've been there...
[10:46] <levander> theine: windows used to be like that, xp is a lot more stable, i've been running the same xp install for 2.5 years, no problems
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> mplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> mplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> SHowing up for me lap
[10:47] <theine> levander, I was refering to XP
[10:47] <lapducky> could it be my local repository?
[10:47] <ompaul> take the XP / GNU/Linux conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be a help channel you can talk all you want
[10:47] <theine> levander, anyway, this is not the right place for a Linux/Windows flamewar...
[10:48] <lapducky> edited for Canadian copyright laws or something?
[10:48] <adrian15> ompaul: which others ubuntu channel are they, are they channels for developers ?
[10:48] <ompaul> adrian15, yes but they do not do support in those channels
[10:48] <odat> Bamm`laptop, trying to send you my sources.list
[10:48] <ompaul> they will rightly point you here
[10:49] <Madpilot> lapducky: I run the .ca archives as well, and I've got a about a dozen mplayer packages listed - use Synpatic's search
[10:49] <Battlestar> theine: ok problem solved for permissions, my windows computer can now see my linux laptop. Next problem: it's asking me to log in, so what login do i use; i tried the one i'm currently logged in on on both computers but neither work
[10:49] <adrian15> ompaul: I just want to talk with some developers that treat with grub and boot loaders and wiki... developers channel name is.... ?
[10:49] <CarinArr> hey.. i have a question regarding nvidia drivers.. I need the latest driver for a software i'm using so I installed the ones from nvidia's website.. All is well until I reboot.. then for whatever reason I get segmentation faults trying to run nvidia-settings and whatever else. If I reinstall the drivers they work perfectly until the next time I reboot.. does anyone know what the problem might be?
[10:49] <shiris1> Madpilot: have done the same, would sign off now as things to do
[10:49] <theine> Battlestar, I'm really no samba expert (never used it) so I suggest you ask somebody else in this case
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> odat, back
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> send again
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> was getting grub
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> :]
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> (food, not loader)
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> :D
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop> actually won't work, paste it
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop> not here
[10:50] <Battlestar> theine: oh ok lol, it's asking me the same thing trying to access files the other way too, so this does leave me in a bit of a pickle
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:50] <ompaul> two main dev places are #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel - however if you ask for help there they will tell you to come here they develop stuff and mostly it is about what packages are fixed or sorted and stuff
[10:50] <ompaul> !tell Bamm`laptop about enter
[10:50] <ompaul> Bamm`laptop, can you look at that msg from the bot please
[10:50] <JoeBlow> !enter
[10:50] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:51] <JoeBlow> !tekk JoeBloe about enter
[10:51] <ubotu> JoeBlow: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:51] <ompaul> JoeBlow, you could ask the bot yourself /msg ubotu enter and it will tell you
[10:51] <Bamm`laptop> Last moment thoughts tend to popup on me, read above paste it @ the site
[10:51] <theine> Battlestar, I actually thought it's a bit strange to be required to use "sudo" for sharing a folder below your own home directory...
[10:51] <theine> Battlestar, did you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba ?
[10:51] <lapducky> Madpilot, of course I've already searched several times -- I'm telling you that it is NOT THERE (for me at least) -- only the mozilla-mplayer plugin which depends on those other packages.  Could it be because I installed from a slightly corrupted Breezy DVD?  I *have* seen the odd GPG signature error when refreshing the package cache.
[10:51] <adrian15> ompaul: masters of the universe :) thank you
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u dont have multiverse enabled
[10:52] <Bamm`laptop> ompaul, thanks and sorry :]
[10:52] <ompaul> Bamm`laptop, np
[10:52] <Madpilot> lapducky: no idea - run Reload in Synaptic, and double check your sources.list
[10:52] <odat> Bamm`laptop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6946
[10:52] <Battlestar> theine: no not really i just wanted to share a folder and it asked me to install samba/NFS. so i installed them and shared my folder. I just knocked out the firewall on my windows PC for the moment too so that probably helped
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u have to add the line multiverse next universe, on al of the Community Maintained (universe) repositories
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u have to add the line multiverse next to universe, on al of the Community Maintained (universe) repositories
[10:52] <gallardo> me cajo na conecha
[10:53] <Battlestar> theine: and i just solved my own problem. I entered no user name or password and it gave me full access
[10:53] <JoeBlow> !es
[10:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:53] <theine> Battlestar, great
[10:53] <Battlestar> theine: thanks for all your help anyway, i'm off
[10:53] <theine> Battlestar, welcome
[10:53] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u find it?
[10:54] <misieq_> hi there! anyone installed ubuntu on mac?
[10:54] <JoeBlow> sorry, cant afford a mac
[10:54] <misieq_> i can't install yaboot bootloader
[10:54] <Bamm`laptop> Second odat checking
[10:54] <Bamm`laptop> Im using your repos and it's in there
[10:55] <yookoala> hello
[10:55] <odat> JoeBlow, want a mac?  use freebsd and gnome with a mac os x theme   basically the same thing :)
[10:55] <yookoala> I have some question on sound system on ubuntu and generally linux
[10:55] <robotgeek> misieq_: what do you need help with?
[10:55] <Bamm`laptop> When I ran fbsd w/ gnome it wasn't that great :[
[10:55] <JoeBlow> odat, I want a pc running ubuntu
[10:55] <robotgeek> misieq_: is it an older mac (old world?)
[10:56] <yookoala> as far as I know, there are many sound framework on linux
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, but i do want mac and cheese, but fucking germany doesnt have it
[10:56] <odat> JoeBlow, it was a joke    that is basically what mac os x is     sorta kinda lol
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, chedder doesnt exist here
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, Ive never even touched a modern mac
[10:56] <yookoala> We have ALSA, OSS.
[10:56] <Bamm`laptop> odat, you sure nmplayer isn't there? your repos worked fine for me
[10:56] <odat> Bamm`laptop, mplayer is there that is why i gave you the repos
[10:56] <misieq_> i think the problem is with apt system - on tty3 (log) it tells "couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 no such file or directroy)"
[10:57] <yookoala> How can I choose to use which?
[10:57] <misieq_> no, it's powerpcg4 with mirrored drive doors dual 1ghz
[10:57] <yookoala> (1) How can I choose to use which?
[10:57] <robotgeek> misieq_: oh okay, are j\you just installing?
[10:57] <Bamm`laptop> OH!, lapducky wanted it haha
[10:57] <sudharsh> yookoala: GOTO multimedia system selector
[10:57] <misieq_> yes
[10:57] <yookoala> (2) How can I disable gstreamer and just use OSS?
[10:57] <sudharsh> in preferences
[10:58] <yookoala> thanks sudharsh
[10:58] <sudharsh> no problem
[10:58] <odat> yookoala, you need gstreamer  besides gstreamer is not a replacement for oss or alsa
[10:58] <yookoala> seems my OSS got some problem since I installed gstreamer
[10:58] <robotgeek> misieq_: is it a ubuntu shipit cd, or one you burnt yourself?
[10:58] <misieq_> shipit 5.04 for ppc
[10:58] <sudharsh> i dont think so
[10:58] <sudharsh> yookoala: whatkinda prob do u hav
[10:59] <lapducky> grrr....,
[10:59] <odat> Bamm`laptop, oh lol oops
[10:59] <yookoala> odat, I know a bit of that. Actually my sound recording fails ever sinces I installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[10:59] <lapducky> *#^$ing apt must be broken!!
[10:59] <robotgeek> misieq_: did it detect your internet card?
[10:59] <misieq_> yes
[10:59] <sudharsh> lapducky what happended
[11:00] <yookoala> sudharsh, Actually my sound recording fails ever sinces I installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[11:00] <misieq_> brb
[11:00] <robotgeek> misieq_: kk
[11:00] <odat> yookoala, well is alsa doesn't work for you like it doesn't on some of my other machines i always use esd over oss  might wanna try that
[11:01] <misieq_> i'm back. network card is up and running, i can download things
[11:01] <yookoala> odat, I tried to set ALSA as default but seems it didn't fixed my Gnome Recorder nor my Skype
[11:01] <yookoala> they worked well before I installed gstreamer08.-plugins
[11:01] <Sigu> anyone know how to not show whats in your home directory using gnome, when youre looking at the desktop?
[11:02] <odat> Sigu, you mean hidden file?
[11:02] <Sigu> hmm maybe thats it
[11:02] <Sigu> nope
[11:02] <lapducky> sudharsh, its not getting packages from repositories that EVERYONE ELSE can see.
[11:02] <fretbuzz> will ubuntu install and run on my toshiba satellite p30 laptop ?
[11:02] <odat> fretbuzz, what are the specs of that machine?
[11:02] <lapducky> fretbuzz, how much RAM have you got?
[11:03] <fretbuzz> one sec
[11:03] <sudharsh> lapducky tried apt-get update?
[11:03] <ray_> really new at this linux stuff.........anyone help with installing a downloaded .package?
[11:03] <lapducky> Heh, I just wiped my sources.list cleans and started over -- problem solved!
[11:04] <sudharsh> hehe
[11:04] <yookoala> odat, I've got your source.list. Is there anything special I can use?
[11:04] <misieq_> ray_, dpkg -i package
[11:04] <sudharsh> guyz,,now with which software can i maintain a packages documentation
[11:04] <sudharsh> kinda like doxygen if i m correct
[11:04] <ray_> From Terminal?
[11:04] <odat> yookoala, i would just replace you list with that one
[11:04] <misieq_> ray_, yes. and as root
[11:05] <ray_> cheers :o)
[11:05] <sudharsh> .package is not a debian package
[11:05] <zdux0012> I have a question, I got an error message using "make",         "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."
[11:05] <misieq_> ray, "sudo dpkg -i package" (no qupotes)
[11:05] <sudharsh> isnt it a autopackage stuff
[11:05] <yookoala> odat, thanks for that. ^^ I'll try it
[11:05] <lapducky> I think I had a corrupted local cache.
[11:05] <odat> yookoala, np
[11:05] <sudharsh> ray_ what does the file end with
[11:05] <ray_> it doesn't seem to be auto package
[11:06] <sudharsh> .deb?
[11:06] <misieq_> zdux, are you sure you have kernel headers installed?
[11:06] <ray_> ends with ".package"
[11:06] <sudharsh> thats an autopackage
[11:06] <sudharsh> execute that in termina;
[11:06] <ray_> corrupt d/load??
[11:06] <zdux0012> misieq: I just preformed apt-get install linux-headers-386
[11:06] <sudharsh> then redownload
[11:06] <ray_> y.....thanks
[11:07] <zdux0012> misieq_: It seemed to install correctly
[11:07] <sudharsh> alright try 'sudo sh ./<name.package>
[11:07] <ray_> ok
[11:07] <misieq_> zdux, dunno, try to install some other kernel-connected packages..
[11:08] <misieq_> zdux and be sure to install 2.6.12-9-386 kernel!
[11:08] <fretbuzz> Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor 532 supporting Hyper-Threading Technology (3.06 GHz, 533MHz FSB, L1 Cache 12KB/8KB, L2 Cache 1MB)
[11:08] <yookoala> still want to ask: Does anyone know how to disable gstreamer?
[11:08] <misieq_> anyone has some experience with yaboot and macintosh?
[11:09] <odat> fretbuzz, then yes
[11:09] <joevi> help me!! my soundcard dosn't work!!
[11:10] <odat> yookoala, does your recording program have the option to choose how its going to record the audio?
[11:11] <_Rappy_> anyone got an obvious solution for getting sound on videos from video.google.com? Apps like xmms and totem plays like a charm...
[11:11] <zdux0012> misieq: I seem to have 2.6.12-10-386  not 2.6.12-9-386,,, is this wrong?
[11:11] <jouni__m> joevi give the data of soundcard manufacturer and type. is it pci or isa or integrated?
[11:12] <fretbuzz> odat it will install without to many problems i hope?
[11:12] <fretbuzz> like no problem with ATI mobility radeion video card
[11:12] <odat> fretbuzz, gonna have it connected to the internet?  preferably a cable connection or something
[11:12] <CarinArr> zdux0012, that probably means you're running the -9 kernel but have installed the -10 headers
[11:12] <fretbuzz> wireless i hope
[11:13] <misieq_> zdux, i'd think so. you may try doing symlink "2.6.12-10-386" to point to "2.6.12-10-386", but be careful
[11:13] <fretbuzz> atheros wireless adapter
[11:13] <odat> fretbuzz, wireless is still tough with linux
[11:13] <fretbuzz> yeah i am learning that
[11:13] <robotgeek> fretbuzz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:13] <CarinArr> zdux0012, just install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[11:13] <odat> fretbuzz, doable but a little tough although ubuntu might get it in the first shot
[11:13] <zdux0012> sorry I am a newbie,
[11:14] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: check that list, either madwifi/ndiswrapper should work for you. check that list
[11:14] <fretbuzz> i got mu wireless to work on fedora core 4 with a few hours work and some tweaking
[11:14] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: so you know if you used the madwifi drivers?
[11:14] <odat> fretbuzz, than your good to go   ubuntu will be much easier
[11:14] <fretbuzz> i have used madwifi in fedora core 4 it went ok and it works
[11:15] <fretbuzz> oh odat your a man after my own heart i love to hear that
[11:15] <CarinArr> zdux0012, basically you get the error because there is a version mismatch between your kernel and the header files for the kernel.. it's no big deal, there isn't a problem with your system or anything, you just need to install the 2.6.12-9 linux headers.. if you go to synaptic and search for "linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386" and install the one that comes up
[11:15] <odat> fretbuzz, seriously you might get lucky when installing ubuntu it might do it for you
[11:16] <zdux0012> should I delete the existing headers?
[11:16] <CarinArr> zdux0012, well.. they're not interfering so you can just leave them if you want
[11:16] <odat> fretbuzz, i tried many distros and i always came straight back to ubuntu and realized eventually that ubuntu is amazing plain and simple
[11:16] <odat> and my heart tells me gnome is too :)
[11:17] <zdux0012> CarinArr: thanks I did a apt-get install linux-headers...
[11:17] <robotgeek> zdux0012: install "linux-headers-386" if your kernel is 386
[11:17] <fretbuzz> Card: Atheros AR5001X+ 54mbps
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Chipset: Atheros
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * pciid: ?
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Driver: ?
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Other: Ndiswrapper 0.9. Works!!! Dmesg shows RTS, Powermode and fragmentation failures but it still works!!!
[11:18] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: no pasting here
[11:18] <zdux0012> robotgeek: I am not sure if my kernel is 386,, does this refer to the chipset? I am using a pentium so 386 is right right?
[11:18] <fretbuzz> it says it supports atheros adapters
[11:18] <fretbuzz> oh sorry
[11:18] <robotgeek> zdux0012: uname -a
[11:18] <misieq_> robotgeek, what about yaboot? any idea?
[11:18] <fretbuzz> please forgive
[11:18] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: no prob
[11:19] <robotgeek> misieq_: this is the installation stage, and it fails here?
[11:19] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks, it is version 9 and a 386
[11:19] <robotgeek> zdux0012: then install linux-headers-386
[11:20] <robotgeek> misieq_: can you try it with a 5.10 cd, ppc support is much better
[11:20] <zdux0012> robotgeek: I did this before,, the text after installation mentioned kernel-headers ... 10
[11:20] <misieq_> robotgeek, i have installation menu, and i'm past through partitioning, setting up users, installing base system and configuring apt
[11:20] <fretbuzz> thats all i want something plain not flashy like kanotix and simple not complicated like fedora but something with powerful command line
[11:20] <misieq_> robotgeek. it fails on "Install yaboot on a hard disk"
[11:21] <odat> i really have to stop harrassing the kde guys
[11:21] <zdux0012> CarinArr, robotgeek:  I think I'm good for now,, thanks
[11:21] <CarinArr> robotgeek, out of interest, if he has the 10 kernel installed as well, which headers will linux-headers-386 install?
[11:21] <robotgeek> misieq_: hmm, totally weird.
[11:21] <odat> geez i'm a goof sometimes
[11:21] <odat> sheesh
[11:21] <apokryphos> fretbuzz: do not paste in here :)
[11:21] <fretbuzz> i will be using it for writting software apps with python java perl and c++
[11:21] <apokryphos> oop, repetition; just saw note from robotgeek 8)
[11:22] <robotgeek> CarinArr: it's a metapackage, the next time it upgrades the kernel, it will install the headers as well
[11:22] <misieq_> robotgeek, can i order new shipit cd for me for same address?
[11:22] <fretbuzz> will ubuntu install right over fedora?
[11:22] <CarinArr> robotgeek, yeah but what i mean is its description says it installs the latest kernel headers available.. so if he hasn't upgraded his kernel yet (given -10 is available) will it install the -9 ones?
[11:22] <robotgeek> CarinArr: you can have all the versions installed at once (headers), one matching your current kernel will be used
[11:22] <odat> fretbuzz, will you be using gnome ?
[11:23] <CarinArr> robotgeek, yeah i know, but i'm wondering how he came to have the -10 headers installed when he was running the -9 kernel
[11:23] <fretbuzz> gnome yes at times but not alot
[11:23] <odat> fretbuzz, if you tell it to erase and use the entire disk
[11:23] <robotgeek> CarinArr: he probably has not rebooted or something
[11:23] <zdux0012> btw,, can I stop the computer beep when I press backspace in the terminal?
[11:23] <odat> fretbuzz, what is you desktop of choice?
[11:23] <robotgeek> zdux0012: also install linux-image-386
[11:24] <fretbuzz> i have a dual boot system with winxp and fedora all i want is to right on the fedora partition
[11:24] <CarinArr> oh yeah.. that's a point
[11:24] <fretbuzz> kde
[11:24] <robotgeek> zdux0012: yes, alsamixer in a console, and i think it's the last option.
[11:24] <leiyuleiyu> ??
[11:25] <thegladiator> my video files are not beig played well . there is a small pause in between
[11:25] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks, got it (linux-image-386)
[11:25] <odat> fretbuzz, then what you want is kubuntu  not just ubuntu
[11:25] <robotgeek> zdux0012: that will reduce the beep sound, if you want to turn off audible bells completely, i think it's in Preferences -> SOund
[11:25] <thegladiator> the cpu usage is shown as 100% when I play a video file
[11:25] <thegladiator> it was working well
[11:25] <CarinArr> zdux0012, what were you trying to "make" when you ran into problems?
[11:25] <fretbuzz> oh darn i just finished the ubuntu download
[11:25] <fretbuzz> whats the difference?
[11:26] <superante> hi to all  someone use gaim with icq protocol...works it??
[11:26] <martinex> hello all
[11:26] <ray_> hey guys, used "sudo dpkg -i package and d/loaded autopackage.tar.bz2 and it sorted it........thanks!  :o)
[11:26] <CarinArr> fretbuzz, you can install kde once you've got ubuntu installed, there's no need to redownload the entire thing
[11:26] <zdux0012> CarinArr: MythTV following directions here:  install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[11:26] <martinex> short question - how to _downgrade_ from dapper to breezy?
[11:26] <CarinArr> zdux0012, ah
[11:26] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: make sure you go for server install
[11:26] <odat> fretbuzz, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome
[11:26] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: and later install kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <fretbuzz> oh thats good
[11:26] <andi5> superante: yes, it works, file transfer not fully implemented (next version)
[11:27] <odat> fretbuzz, it will save you space
[11:27] <robotgeek> martinex: that will be a good experiment, lol
[11:27] <superante> ok thanks...because my gaim doesn't work!!! ;)
[11:27] <Blippe> martinex, change to breezy sources.list and then force everything to the versions in the repos
[11:27] <CarinArr> i installed some kde stuff a few weeks ago on my desktop, did some updates, rebooted and i got a kubuntu logo instead.. amused me
[11:27] <robotgeek> misieq_: you can order another shipit
[11:27] <fretbuzz> do i have to install gnome on first install?
[11:27] <odat> fretbuzz, if you really don't use both desktops like i don't use kde than i would rather have the space than two desktops when i only use one
[11:27] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks that music to my ears
[11:27] <fretbuzz> and then later remove it and install kde?
[11:27] <Blippe> Yeah, how do i change the startup-logo?
[11:27] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: server install doesn't install gui stuff
[11:28] <odat> fretbuzz, just get kubuntu its the brother to ubuntu its on ubuntu's website
[11:28] <Blippe> I started with a ubuntu, went over to xubuntu, and then to kubuntu, and my startup still says xubuntu
[11:28] <AdTheRat> xubuntu?
[11:28] <zdux0012> CarinArr: I read about GNU,, I really like the ideas behind it (not free, but freedom) so I decided to jump on the linux train. I'm a computer programmer, but I know little of linux
[11:28] <odat> AdTheRat, xfce
[11:28] <AdTheRat> I've not heard of xubuntu..
[11:28] <andi5> hi. easy faq type question (lack of time). i am used to "apt-get source / dpkg-source -x" to get a fully patched debian package src tree, but in ubuntu i see some strange dir hierarchy... how to easily extract and patch that easily (without building of course)
[11:28] <AdTheRat> oouu!
[11:28] <Blippe> xubuntu is with xfce instead of gnome
[11:29] <Blippe> not a cd (yet)
[11:29] <CarinArr> zdux0012, you'll probably love it when you get used to the system, i'm much happier programming in linux than in windows
[11:29] <Blippe> install server and then add xubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <AdTheRat> I use kubuntu at the moment
[11:29] <odat> which i don't see enough of a performance difference between the two to warrant the lack of features
[11:29] <CarinArr> i don't use gnome or kde.. but i use kdevelop and a few other things
[11:29] <fretbuzz> kubuntu is more of a full featured os?
[11:29] <zdux0012> CarinArr,, it seems to have potential. one thing I miss though is the keyboard shortcuts, I never used a mouse in windows,
[11:30] <odat> fretbuzz, what do you mean by that?
[11:30] <misieq_> is (k)ubuntu dapper drake flight-2 for ppc already worth downloading?
[11:30] <martinex> Blippe, how can I _force_ ?
[11:30] <Blippe> I actually get worse performance in gnome, must have done something wrong somewere...
[11:30] <CarinArr> zdux0012, i use fluxbox (a different window manager) and i've got loads of keyboard shortcuts.. never touch my mouse really
[11:30] <fretbuzz> well i dont need or want all the bells and whistles
[11:30] <CarinArr> but you can set up shortcuts in most window managers anyway, it's just getting used to them
[11:31] <odat> fretbuzz, all kubuntu is   is ubuntu with the kde desktop instead of the gnome desktop
[11:31] <Blippe> martinex option in synaptic, in the menu at top-left...
[11:31] <fretbuzz> i need it to print to my lexmark and hp photosmart printers
[11:31] <zdux0012> CarinArr, for instance to right click the taskbar icon, Ctrl+Esc , Shift+Tab, Shift + Tab, Left and right to select icon, context menu key
[11:31] <fretbuzz> i need it to have a powerful command line
[11:31] <martinex> robotgeek, unfortunately there's nothing funny - I have to downgrade because dapper is broken - I lost access to internet - it hangs on "detecting hardware' and doesn't install NIC's drivers
[11:31] <odat> fretbuzz, hp is well support and it depends what type of lexmark you have
[11:31] <thegladiator> does anyone know why is this video pausing for a split secodn when I play divx ?
[11:31] <martinex> Blippe, ok thanks
[11:31] <thegladiator> second*
[11:31] <thomas_> !ntfs
[11:31] <fretbuzz> elinks python c++ java and perl support
[11:31] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[11:31] <zdux0012> CarinArr, I'll look into it, I was thinking about the xfce before, just because I heard it was small
[11:31] <thegladiator> it wasnt hppening before
[11:31] <CarinArr> zdux0012, well if those are the keys your used to you can set up your desktop like that in linux too if you're using a decent window manager
[11:32] <Blippe> martinex, I don't know if it will make your system workable though...
[11:32] <CarinArr> zdux0012, fluxbox is very small too, very lightweight and you can customise almost anything
[11:32] <fretbuzz> and pine for email
[11:32] <martinex> Blippe, well I'll just try - it'll be propably faster option than installing fresh breezy
[11:32] <thegladiator> i removed superKaram and its working fine!
[11:33] <fretbuzz> i will use gui only if ubuntu has good digital photo editors
[11:33] <fretbuzz> otherwise i dont need gui at all
[11:33] <zdux0012> now I'm using Gnome, I used KDE before. I didn't really like KDE, one problem I had was that I (somehow) reduced the zoom on the icons and never got the full size back
[11:33] <odat> fretbuzz, i am partial to gnome which i believe is much lighter weight than kde   i also don't like how kde insist on their programs   gnome really doesn't do that    that kind of stuff make me feel like i'm using windows in a way
[11:33] <CarinArr> even if i only do text based stuff i use a gui.. you can fit more information on your screen
[11:33] <fretbuzz> ok gnome then
[11:33] <fretbuzz> to save space
[11:34] <zdux0012> I used dos a lot in windows
[11:34] <Blippe> fretbuzz you could always try openbox out... or something of the like :D
[11:34] <fretbuzz> does ubuntu have good digital photo editors?
[11:34] <odat> fretbuzz, i don't direct anyone that i have converted to kde ever lol
[11:34] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, gimp
[11:34] <zdux0012> I tell ya,, linux is really getting good,, I think windows is going to get run over in a few years
[11:34] <fretbuzz> gimp i have used in fedora its ok
[11:34] <thegladiator> zdux0012, i tell you the same
[11:35] <zdux0012> I haven't had the situation of "you can't do that in linux"
[11:35] <odat> And i feel the best theme for gnome is NUVOLA  by far   makes gnome sexy lol
[11:35] <Blippe> fretbuzz gimp is in the repos...
[11:35] <fretbuzz> gimp comes with ubuntu?
[11:35] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, gimp is my choice althought I dont any heavy photo editing works
[11:35] <CarinArr> i dunno.. linux is great if you have time to devote to it.. but there're so many different linux factions
[11:35] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, yes it does
[11:35] <odat> and you don't have to play around with what icon or theme border and all of that fit
[11:35] <odat> its the whole thing all setup already
[11:36] <Blippe> fretbuzz will work with any windowmanager. (it sets up properly all by itself)
[11:36] <thegladiator> fun of linux is in fixing the problems  ,leaves you fresh with a clear logical mind
[11:36] <CarinArr> lol thegladiator
[11:36] <CarinArr> i wish
[11:36] <odat> fretbuzz, and open office and firefox
[11:36] <nyj> softwares for 64-bit are not abundant
[11:36] <odat> CarinArr, ?
[11:37] <fretbuzz> open office firefox gimp
[11:37] <odat> nyj, 64bit is not really needed yet on the desktop
[11:37] <CarinArr> odat?
[11:37] <Blippe> what is abundant is kde-media apps which crash... :D
[11:37] <fretbuzz> what about laTEX?
[11:37] <odat> CarinArr, didn't understand your comment earlier about linux
[11:37] <odat> Blippe, lol
[11:37] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, take a look at http://distrowatch.com and hit ubuntu : see packages for ubuntu
[11:37] <Blippe> i don't think you can find a linux distro witout latex fretbuzz
[11:37] <fretbuzz> thankyou gladiator
[11:38] <odat> fretbuzz, its all about the repositories    lol
[11:38] <thegladiator> 64-bit is not for homputers as of now
[11:38] <CarinArr> odat, well windows is just windows, but there are so many different linux versions it's difficult to get a standard way of doing things between all of them, which means a great many users just can't be bothered trying to understand it. I personally think linux is fantastic and prefer it over windows anyday, but I don't think microsoft will loose that great an amount of users to linux anytime soon.. still too fiddly to fix when things go wrong for most people.
[11:38] <theine> fretbuzz, you can also search for packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, there are many gladiators , I am the gladiator - maximus :) just kidding
[11:39] <thegladiator> CarinArr, perfectly I agree
[11:40] <thegladiator> if linux coes down to a stage where once installation and you are done , then I bet a bijillion users wud throw XP
[11:40] <Blippe> CArinArr, well easier and easier distros is shipping. Today it is ubuntu, and ubuntu is a long way from redhat in 1998
[11:40] <CarinArr> odat, for example, i know a great many people who gave up on linux after trying to get nvidia drivers installed correctly. If package managers install them correctly and all is fine, it's all good, but when they don't, most people are intimidated and give up
[11:40] <odat> CarinArr, where linux and what i feel will be ubuntu   will gain ground and lots of it fast are on older machines that aren't worthless but don't warrant spending 120 dollars for an OS for them  this is where linux and ubuntu will be huge
[11:40] <thegladiator> Blippe, yes . but I think Xandros is a bit ahead of ubuntu as far as noobs are concerbed
[11:41] <thegladiator> odat, there are many who wish to part with 120 bucks to get a stupid good looking thing
[11:41] <Blippe> thegladiator, i don't really agree, i think linux, will always have to fight (against to pirated software)
[11:41] <thegladiator> called Windows
[11:41] <Carl> Hey, are there any programs such as ffdshow for ubuntu?
[11:41] <odat> CarinArr, that responsibility falls on people like us where those people can say how do i fix or do this.  That is our part
[11:41] <CarinArr> blippe, yeah, definitely.. but i've been using linux for years and years, and i still have problems installing nvidia drivers. I would class myself as an average user in that i dont dig too deep into things and i probably don't quite understand what actually goes on particularly well..
[11:41] <thegladiator> Blippe, yes , as of now the standards are set , once it changes , yes linux shud takeover
[11:42] <odat> thegladiator, not so much on older computers
[11:42] <CarinArr> odat, yeah, i totally agree.. but these little things i think will keep users with windows for quite a while longer
[11:42] <Blippe> I didn't like xandros last time i looked at it, (which was quite some time ago,though).
[11:42] <thegladiator> its a diff perspective , but I can perfectly understand the point you guys are driving home
[11:42] <xfred> hi there
[11:42] <odat> CarinArr, microsoft will never be gone but at least with our help software get better all together
[11:43] <orfeu> how can i install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:43] <Blippe> CarinArr, never had nvidea, can't part from my matrox-dualhead :D
[11:43] <CarinArr> i mean, as an example, i upgraded my kernel using the update-manager, and kapoof went my nvidia drivers.
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about !irefox
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about !firefox
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about firefox
[11:43] <xfred> in open office calc, is there a shortcut to edit the current cell value ?
[11:43] <thegladiator> sorry  for the spams
[11:43] <odat> CarinArr, it took microsoft 6 years to come out with a better internet explorer because they had no competition until firefox    that is what we are doing    forcing better software
[11:44] <zuverink> What is better the blackhawk java or suns java?
[11:44] <Ng> zuverink: Sun's Java
[11:44] <Blippe> zuverink, i like suns!
[11:44] <robotgeek> zuverink: define your criteria for better :)
[11:44] <Ng> (and it's blackdown ;)
[11:44] <thegladiator> suns java wud be preffered since many still use sun's java
[11:44] <CarinArr> odat, yeah, i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm just saying people generally go for "easy" and linux is only easy as long as things work as expected, as soon as you run into problems it gets very intimidating
[11:45] <thegladiator> I think CarinArr's point is very clear
[11:45] <Blippe> CarinArr, and that's why ms won't ever apply to strict ways to stop pirated software :P
[11:45] <zuverink> It was my nvidia card that was causing me install failure, took it out and it installed perfect
[11:45] <Ng> you guys should be talking about microsoft/whateverelse in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[11:45] <Blippe> Ng sorry!
[11:45] <thegladiator> a perfect example of great thing going down the guts was Apple
[11:46] <robotgeek> thegladiator: ^^^ offtopic :)
[11:46] <thegladiator> such a nice OS it was , but didnt have the support , and lost to MS
[11:46] <odat> CarinArr, i certainly know that i converted five people to linux and i am their personal tech guy lol and i had to solve some problems for them that if i didn't or couldn't it may have drove them back to windows but the more they use linux the more they understand what they are really doing and actually they love it now
[11:46] <odat> change is scary
[11:46] <thegladiator> yes! sorry :) could resist you see :D
[11:47] <thegladiator> robotgeek, did you work on dekorator ?
[11:47] <odat> come on somebody try nuvola for me
[11:48] <thegladiator> anyone here running ubuntu from the office ?
[11:48] <geokker> from the office? What mean you?
[11:48] <Ng> yes
[11:48] <CarinArr> what office would that be?
[11:48] <CarinArr> heh
[11:48] <thegladiator> just to see the penetration
[11:49] <thegladiator> office = place where you get ur salary :)
[11:49] <geokker> Yes, Ubuntu is my work machine
[11:49] <geokker> 5.10
[11:49] <Blippe> I use unix at "work"
[11:49] <thegladiator> good good! nice penetration
[11:49] <CarinArr> still running suse in the office, we only recently got permission to install our weapon of choice and i have been working from home since
[11:49] <geokker> currently getting depressed about open office impress and it's 1982 jagged shapes
[11:50] <thegladiator> he he :)
[11:50] <ejofee> if i installed kubuntu in another language, can i switch language to english and how?
[11:50] <thegladiator> just tweak it mate !
[11:50] <theine> geokker, I'm getting depressed about the embedded video ``support''...
[11:51] <odat> theine, what are you having trouble with?
[11:51] <theine> I'd be curious to know a piece of software that is worse than JMF
[11:51] <bubuntu> hi, i have a problem with Nail, mail user agent. Somebody know that software?
[11:51] <CarinArr> geokker, ah.. like maya and it's motif interface.. really inspires your creativity
[11:51] <theine> odat, well I didn't manage to setup JMF so far
[11:52] <geokker> nope, you're speaking Greek
[11:52] <CarinArr> bubuntu, not me, sorry
[11:52] <odat> theine, jmf?
[11:52] <theine> JMF might actually be not that bad but its setup truly sucks
[11:52] <adrian_> im new, i need help about mysql
[11:52] <theine> odat, java media framework
[11:52] <geokker> JMF?
[11:52] <geokker> ah
[11:53] <theine> geokker, how do you guys embed videos? with mplayer's mozilla plugin?
[11:53] <geokker> whenever I get delayed by Java, a little bit of me dies inside
[11:53] <adrian_> _join #mysql
[11:53] <odat> theine, mplayer is by far the best
[11:53] <Ng> theine: the firefox MediaPlayerConnectivity extension is quite useful, it shows a little square instead of the embedded video and when you click on it, opens it in the media player of your choice, so I use mplayer or totem
[11:53] <Blippe> does anybody know about xubuntu? is all going according to plan? the webpage haven't been updated in quite a while...
[11:54] <theine> Ng, still not as nice as embedded
[11:54] <adrian_> join mysql
[11:54] <odat> theine, the mplayer plugin works great for me
[11:54] <zuverink> is there a web site with additional repositories, aside from the ones the add applications program will add automatically for you?
[11:54] <Ng> theine: I think it's better :)
[11:54] <theine> Ng, well that's a matter of taste I guess
[11:54] <Ng> theine: indeed. the totem plugin in dapper ought to be pretty useful
[11:54] <CarinArr> er ww
[11:54] <Blippe> zuverink, if you add repos to your sources you get more programs in synaptic...
[11:55] <CarinArr> ng, where do you get that from? i'd much rather open it in an external player
[11:55] <Ng> CarinArr: in Firefox go Tools->Extensions and pick Get More Extensions - it's available from that site
[11:55] <theine> odat, do you have any trouble with beamers, etc.?
[11:55] <CarinArr> cool, thanks
[11:55] <odat> zuverink, just replace your sources.list with that one
[11:55] <geokker> I used automatix
[11:55] <odat> theine, what is beamers
[11:55] <geokker> it automagically installed all the plugins for firefox
[11:56] <orfeu> thank you ubuntu i just buy an USB mouse in windows i have many problems with hem but in ubuntu works perfectly ! :)
[11:56] <zuverink> odat: thanks
[11:56] <odat> zuverink, np
[11:56] <Ng> geokker: there's nothing magic about automatix, just a fair potential for problems ;)
[11:56] <geokker> it worked for me
[11:56] <geokker> ish
[11:56] <Ng> what a ringing endorsement ;)
[11:56] <theine> odat, projectors, the things you use when making a presentation... They seem to be called differently in every country in the world...
[11:56] <zuverink> odat: where is the file located?
[11:57] <geokker> best install recently: Real 10 media player - now can listen to Radio 5 on net
[11:57] <odat> zuverink, etc /  apt i think
[11:57] <zuverink> odat: thanks again
[11:57] <Blippe> shouldn't automatix be removed from the forums, hasn't it been superseeded by a toll that doesn't add root?
[11:57] <odat> geokker, mplayer won't do it?
[11:58] <geokker> odat: no, it never worked. Don't know why.
[11:58] <Ng> Blippe: you'd have to ask the forum people that
[11:58] <odat> geokker, huh no kiddin
[11:58] <Blippe> so much work, so much time...
[11:58] <Blippe> er..
[11:58] <theine> geokker, mplayer didn't manage to play your videos?
[11:59] <theine> geokker, or what exactly didn't work?
[11:59] <geokker> yes, it works mostly, but not with radio
[11:59] <geokker> streams
[11:59] <zuverink> odat: those look to be all irc servers????
[11:59] <geokker> does anyone know how to cycle program windows in Gnome?
[11:59] <theine> geokker, ah, ok
[11:59] <geokker> it's been bugging me
[11:59] <odat> zuverink, ????
[12:00] <psypher246> hey all, can anybody help me quick to understand the boot splash system that is used on breezy. I thought it's usplash but that package is not installed on my system
[12:00] <geokker> like alt + tab, but for a single programs multiple windows e.g. terminal
[12:00] <zuverink> that server list you sent
[12:00] <Blippe> geokker, isn't alt-tab setup when it is installed?
[12:00] <guillem101> I've used soundJuicer to rip some audio CDs, but I forgot to specify the genre. How can I edit that (Rythimbox only lets me show the data, no modify it).
[12:00] <zuverink> odat: that server list is all irc servers
[12:00] <geokker> alt + tab just cycles programs
[12:00] <Ng> geokker: I don't think there is such a thing, although you can set the window list panel applet to group windows like that into a single button, which is quite nice
[12:00] <geokker> I want to cycle windows
[12:00] <odat> zuverink, its not a server list is a repositories list   for synaptic
[12:01] <robotgeek> Blippe: after much quibbling, the author finally got rid of the root thing
[12:01] <Blippe> ic
[12:01] <robotgeek> Blippe: he's just not open to suggestion about his code
[12:01] <onkarshinde> Is ALSA anyway related to linmodems (inter modems)?
[12:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Blippe about easyubuntu
[12:02] <zuverink> odat: look at that file you sent, its all irc servers
[12:02] <onkarshinde> !easyubuntu
[12:02] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[12:02] <psypher246> hey all, can anybody help me quick to understand the boot splash system that is used on breezy. I thought it's usplash but that package is not installed on my system
[12:03] <odat> zuverink, no its not  i have sent that file a hundred times to people no one has ever had a problem with them  its a repositories list  not an irc servers list
[12:03] <odat> sheesh
[12:05] <gimmulf> how do i change my host, have no idea where to start and im also behind a router
[12:06] <gimmulf> also i would like to use another host when im using irc
[12:06] <psypher246> can anyone help me please, i just need to know which bootsplash system breezy uses by default, PLEASE!
[12:07] <onkarshinde> psypher246: It is usplash
[12:08] <psypher246> thanks, but then how come that package is not installed on my system?
[12:08] <bimberi> psypher246: i think it does use usplash - it's a depency of ubuntu-desktop (so should normally be installed) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:08] <gimmulf> !host
[12:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gimmulf
[12:09] <psypher246> thanks I've found that howto already, so is that it then?
[12:09] <bimberi> psypher246: afaik
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, go to system admin. than networking on the tab named general you will see your host name change it to what you want
[12:10] <Thorondor> hi everyone
[12:10] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them anyways?
[12:11] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  system admin?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, are you using gnome?
[12:11] <gimmulf> nope
[12:11] <gimmulf> fluxbox
[12:11] <psypher246> bimberi: that howto says I should apt-get install libbogl-dev, what repo is that on? cos it don't find it
[12:11] <gnomefreak> does fluxbox have a networking tool?
[12:11] <gimmulf> dont know :)
[12:11] <Ng> fluxbox is a window manager
[12:12] <CarinArr> i was going to say..
[12:12] <CarinArr> heh
[12:12] <Pome> how do I make the panel pretty?
[12:12] <Pome> it lets down other eye candy
[12:12] <bimberi> !info libbogl-dev
[12:12] <ubotu> libbogl-dev: (Ben's Own Graphics Library - development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 0.1.18-1.1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 340 kB
[12:12] <odat> Pome, i use nuvola theme
[12:12] <bimberi> psypher246: it's in main
[12:13] <Blippe> how do you add a busy-cursor o fluxbox?
[12:13] <CarinArr> gimmulf, you can run "gnome-network-preferences" from a terminal
[12:13] <CarinArr> blippe, my fluxbox is never busy..
[12:13] <CarinArr> ;)
[12:13] <Blippe> good answer
[12:14] <Blippe> But it is unnerving using it... "is it opening my document?"
[12:14] <gimmulf> CarinArr:  ahh ok im there, but if im behind a router will my host still change at irc?
[12:14] <CarinArr> anyway.. it has the default ubuntu busy cursor
[12:14] <CarinArr> doens't it?
[12:14] <psypher246> bimberi: and main should be activated on a server install right? doesn't find it I tell you
[12:14] <Ng> Blippe: I believe fluxbox doesn't support that
[12:14] <CarinArr> oh you mean if you're opening an application?
[12:14] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them anyways?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, what host are you changing? i dont remember the host name of pc has anything to do with irc:(
[12:15] <gimmulf> ahha ok
[12:15] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  just want another host at irc
[12:15] <Pome> Stuff is read-only when I use Nautilus with SFTP - what gives?
[12:15] <bimberi> psypher246: hm, you might only have the CD repository enabled - pastebin your sources.list
[12:15] <CarinArr> gimmulf, you can't change that.. some people use other servers to "bounce" through which gives them some other hostname.. but who could be bothered with that:)
[12:15] <Ng> Pome: the user you are connecting to the sftp server with probably doesn't have permission to write to the files?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> dont mind me im gonna sit in the corner nad stay lost :(
[12:17] <psypher246> bimberi: sorry explain pastebin to me, I asked last time but nobody did, thanks
[12:18] <thegladiator> !paste
[12:18] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:18] <bimberi> psypher246: that post from ubotu (above) :)
[12:18] <flax> question, how do i make a directory and it's files and subdirectories readable by other users, without giving everything a execute bit ? i tried "chmod -R 755 %directoryname%", but this makes all the files also executable.
[12:19] <thegladiator> psypher246, paste bin is a palce where you dump ur output , cod etc, so that other can help you fix bugs and yet avoid spams in channels like this
[12:19] <Pome> that paste bin is cool!
[12:19] <psypher246> cool, thanks. by the way, just checked, yr right main is not activated, I will check it out and let u know, thanks
[12:20] <Bamm`laptop> +r
[12:20] <bimberi> psypher246: np
[12:21] <bimberi> flax: chmod -R a+r %dirname%
[12:21] <onkarshinde> flax: you can simple do 'chmod o+are filenames' this means give read permissions to others. Similarlu g+r for group.
[12:22] <flax> hmmz, thanks, i thought that i also needed to give others execute rights on the directories
[12:23] <guillem101> hmm, easytag does it all ;-) nice piece of software.
[12:24] <guillem101> id3ed did not work for me ???
[12:24] <Blippe> guillem101 wait until somebody gets Picard-(musicbrainz) working on ubuntu
[12:25] <Blippe> not literally
[12:25] <guillem101> gnomefreak, no, easytag is a tool to tag ogg/mp3 files...
[12:26] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, tell us your issues and if someone knows they will answer you
[12:26] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty guillem101
[12:26] <_Otaku_> that's great, erm.. ok first problem is thunderbird
[12:26] <_Otaku_> it wouldn't open a window to compose message
[12:26] <netstar> Anyone want to check out a wallpaper I've doctored for ubuntu?
[12:26] <thegladiator> yes netstar me
[12:26] <Sigu> argh
[12:26] <netstar> http://alastair.gatheringofgray.com/ubuntuman.jpg
[12:26] <_Otaku_> so i uninstalled it and tried to reinstall it
[12:26] <_Otaku_> but now it seems the package server is down
[12:27] <Sigu> I hate newsgroups when people post long files and completely ruin the formatting
[12:27] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, what ubuntu version are you running?
[12:27] <thegladiator> g r e  a t -  o ne  netstar
[12:27] <_Otaku_> breezy badger 5.10 thingy
[12:27] <netstar> cheers th
[12:27] <netstar> thegladiator,
[12:27] <thegladiator> why dont have a real life fella ?
[12:28] <thegladiator> a real person wud be better no ?
[12:28] <netstar> possibly
[12:28] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, honestly i use thunderbird and the only issue ive had with it lately is not being able to send emails :(
[12:28] <_Otaku_> ha!
[12:28] <_Otaku_> i had the same problem
[12:29] <gnomefreak> very very annoying ill tell ya
[12:29] <_Otaku_> but since i uninstalled it i can't even receive mails :-S
[12:29] <_Otaku_> i managed to import all my mails from XP profile
[12:29] <_Otaku_> without a problem
[12:29] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird wont work?
[12:29] <_Otaku_> oh thanks, i'll try that
[12:29] <Bamm`laptop> make sure to run sudo apt-get update first
[12:30] <_Otaku_> update, okies
[12:30] <_Otaku_> thanks Bamm`laptop
[12:30] <CarinArr> weds 25th 9 am
[12:30] <gnomefreak> he just had synaptic open that will automaticlly run update
[12:30] <CarinArr> er wrong window..
[12:30] <_Otaku_> synaptic couldn't connect to package servers
[12:30] <_Otaku_> apt-get seems to work
[12:30] <Bamm`laptop> I didn't read much of the convo gnomefreak :P
[12:31] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, ahhhhh
[12:31] <_Otaku_> :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> my frigging backspace key died :(
[12:31] <_Otaku_> i have seeeeeveral other problems, i couldn't really find newbie-friendly help online
[12:31] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, next issue?
[12:31] <_Otaku_> and the only one i know who is a linux freak told me to go fuck myself :)
[12:32] <Bamm`laptop> Haha, just ask questions and someone will probably help you
[12:32] <Manifold> Can I convert an existing ext2 partition to ext3?
[12:32] <Manifold> Or do I have to format and start again?
[12:32] <_Otaku_> okydoky ;-)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> if it makes you feel at home im sure someone could acomadate you on that lol j/k
[12:32] <onkarshinde> Manifold: I suppose you can. Not sure though
[12:32] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, jai hind
[12:32] <flax> bimberi: the user cannot enter the directories, i gave readrights
[12:33] <HoHoHo> Hi guys, May I know how can I use Wine correctly?
[12:33] <Bamm`laptop> wine program name
[12:33] <Manifold> You have an idea how, onkarshinde?
[12:33] <Manifold> !wine
[12:33] <Bamm`laptop> !info wine
[12:33] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[12:33] <pome> with cheese
[12:33] <Manifold> ubotu tell HoHoHo about wine
[12:33] <flax> i did this chmod -R a+r %dirname%
[12:33] <bimberi> flax: yes, they will need execute rights on the directories
[12:34] <flax> bimberi: i know that, but how should i do this recursive?
[12:34] <chrisx1> hey
[12:34] <flax> do do i really have to use find?
[12:34] <HoHoHo> I see Thanks :) But I got a program. It gave me this error while doing wine program name
[12:34] <chrisx1> how do i start sshd
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/limguohong91', starting in the Windows directory.
[12:35] <flax> chrisx1: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start (after installing it, using apt-get install sshd) (or something like that)
[12:35] <Bamm`laptop> openssh-server
[12:35] <chrisx1> ty
[12:35] <bimberi> flax: i think you will :/ (unfortunately i don't know the syntax)
[12:35] <flax> bimberi: well that was my question ;)
[12:36] <_Otaku_> damn i use german language linux, i guess i can't post my questions in here properly... current problem is thunderbird doesn't start; in system surveillance program thingy it says "run-mozilla.sh sleeping"
[12:36] <bimberi> flax: yeah, i thought i'd cut you off before you asked :P
[12:36] <flax> and since im lazy,.. and i wanted to know this now foresure i thought, lets see here :D
[12:36] <chrisx1> flax, Bamm`laptop, sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[12:36] <Bamm`laptop> try /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:36] <gnomefreak> <<<<: x
[12:36] <thegladiator> _Otaku_, change to english till you get the full help ?
[12:36] <flax> chrisx1: do you dont have it installed?
[12:36] <_Otaku_> i would love to, but.. how? :-)
[12:36] <thegladiator> or it is not possible ?
[12:36] <chrisx1> flax, yep
[12:37] <thegladiator> ah
[12:37] <Bamm`laptop> did you try ssh instead of sshd?
[12:37] <chrisx1> kk it started
[12:37] <chrisx1> ty
[12:37] <flax> chrisx1: and how do you know  it aint running yet?
[12:37] <Bamm`laptop> np
[12:37] <flax> chrisx1: never mind
[12:37] <vbgunz> I remember once I got rid of the Alt key behavior... Currently if I hold down the Alt key in one of my applications and then click inside the app with the mouse and drag it, the window gets dragged... I do not want this behavior... How do I kill the alt behavior?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ill brb me and ubuntu are about to have it out
[12:37] <thegladiator> lol gnomefreak
[12:38] <flax> anyone here, who can help me with my "chmod -R a+r %dirname%" question? how do i also add execute rights on the directories?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> chmod -rx file
[12:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:38] <flax> gnomefreak: recursive ;)
[12:38] <thegladiator> flax as in #linux also if you dont get help here..its a genreal question
[12:39] <flax> thegladiator:  okay,... well maybe i can help a few others, i will hang around for a while
[12:39] <flax> thanx iig
[12:39] <thegladiator> good
[12:40] <_Otaku_> thunderbird doesn't start up :( if i use thunderbird profile manager it says default profile is already in use, but i am sure i stopped all thunderbird processes :S
[12:40] <Bamm`laptop> killall -v thunderbird ?
[12:41] <winograd> !ps2
[12:41] <ubotu> winograd: Not a clue
[12:41] <_Otaku_> *tries*
[12:41] <winograd> helllo peeps
[12:41] <winograd> please helpme setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:41] <_Otaku_>  killall -v thunderbird
[12:41] <_Otaku_> thunderbird: Kein Prozess abgebrochen
[12:41] <_Otaku_> means no process was killed
[12:41] <Thorondor> _Otaku_: i hat the same problem with firefox. apparantely they create a file calles ``LOCK'' in the config dir
[12:41] <_Otaku_> do i have to delete that? @ Thorondor
[12:42] <Thorondor> it worked for me in firefox
[12:42] <winograd> please help me setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:42] <Thorondor> i don't use thunderbird, but you could give it a try
[12:42] <_Otaku_> deleting it? *just asking to make sure*
[12:42] <Carl> Hello, do you guys know how do update the gcc to gcc-3.x?
[12:42] <winograd> use synaptic
[12:42] <winograd> please help me setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:43] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, find the profile file and get rid of it i cant remember how i did it tho :(
[12:43] <Carl> ive looked in synaptic but I cant find it
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Carl, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:44] <_Otaku_> i found it
[12:44] <_Otaku_> but
[12:44] <winograd> will anybody help?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> that will give you 4.0
[12:44] <_Otaku_> erm lol.. when i try to delete it nautilus crashes
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> wompgrad, look at gnomefreaks comment
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> use command line otaku
[12:44] <Thorondor> _Otaku_ : then try it via terminal
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> rm -i FILENAME
[12:44] <onkarshinde> winograd: what is problem with mouse?
[12:44] <winograd> well, it won't, work
[12:45] <_Otaku_> thank you! (i am not familiar with linux terminal and command line ..commands)
[12:45] <redguy|work> gnomefreak: update-alternatives perhaps?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> redguy|work, if he doesnt have it installed that command isnt gonna do much help :(
[12:46] <gnomefreak> but it is a fun command to run :))
[12:46] <andrei> hello. i have an sapphire radeon 9600 vc. downloaded the ati driver from their site, ran graphical installer then ran fglrxconfig. i have chosen the default stuff untill the agpgart stuff and kept my nvidia2 agpgart module already installed. at the end it said that did not find a BUSId, and the line in the xorg.conf sais "# no device found at config time". what the problem should be? thanks
[12:46] <vell> alloha
[12:46] <redguy|work> gnomefreak: erm, sorry. thought it was you who wanted help
[12:46] <winograd> huh, my mouse refuses to work :/ gnomefreak, help :/
[12:46] <Carl> Ive been trying for hours to install mplayer, all I get is that I have wrong version of the gcc
[12:46] <redguy|work> !info gcc-3.4
[12:46] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[12:47] <onkarshinde> winograd: did you add the mouse after you installed Ubuntu?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> winograd, lol @ gnomefreak help
[12:47] <winograd> onkarshide: huh, where?
[12:47] <winograd> gnomefreak: whats funny?
[12:47] <redguy|work> Carl: install gcc-3.4, and then run update-alternatives gcc
[12:47] <gnomefreak> winograd, ok open terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through the process and change your mouse settings to be what you need it to be
[12:47] <_Otaku_> ok, got to delete the lock file (was a symbolic link it seems) now thunderbird-bin thing appears in system surveillance program, but still no thunderbird gui :(
[12:48] <Carl> okey, but where do I find gcc-3.4?
[12:48] <Bamm`laptop> You've re-installed it right otaku?
[12:48] <bimberi> flax: still here?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-thunderbird?
[12:48] <_Otaku_> yeap, via sudo apt-get command
[12:48] <_Otaku_> oh
[12:48] <_Otaku_> no @ gnomefreak
[12:48] <vell> ghg
[12:49] <_Otaku_> what does that command do? @ gnomefreak
[12:49] <CarinArr> carl, search for gcc in synaptic, it should come up there
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Removed thunderbird and the files
[12:49] <_Rappy_> Errormessage: "No symbols found" when trying to run X. Anyone have an idea?
[12:49] <redguy|work> Carl: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 doesn't work?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, it will remove thunderbird and files having  to do with thunderbird
[12:49] <redguy|work> !tell Carl about nicktab
[12:49] <_Otaku_> but will it also remove my profile? :S all my mails? :S
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Try that or sudo dpkg -r mozilla-thunderbird and then sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird again
[12:49] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, can only hope so
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Yea :x
[12:50] <Carl> it installed something with sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4, ill try to compile mplayer again
[12:50] <_Otaku_> but.. but, i don't want to lose my mails, i'll just rename the profile-folder :S
[12:50] <_Otaku_> will that help?
[12:50] <robotgeek> _Otaku_: i dont think it removes your mails
[12:51] <_Otaku_> ok :) *tries*
[12:51] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, the server will still hold your mail if you have it set to
[12:51] <gnomefreak> server being hotmail/gmail/whatevermail
[12:51] <robotgeek> _Otaku_: just back it up, don't move your profiles directory though
[12:51] <_Otaku_> i have, the backup mails should be on winXP (i hope)
[12:51] <Bamm`laptop> If your really paranoid just copy them?
[12:51] <_Otaku_> *copies them*
[12:52] <gnomefreak> i have mine set to archive automaticlly in gmail if i use thunderbird to open them :)
[12:52] <Bamm`laptop> Same
[12:52] <_Otaku_> i don't have a gmail account ^^
[12:52] <gnomefreak> that way if i lose thunderbird i still have addresses and emails
[12:52] <Bamm`laptop> But my personalized google home w/ 6-7 rss feeds surpasses my need for checking it using thunderbird :D
[12:52] <gnomefreak> i have 4 :(
[12:53] <_Otaku_> lol
[12:53] <_Otaku_> i backup my mails regularly with mozilla backup application (a windows app)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> last count i think i had 16 working emails :((
[12:53] <_Otaku_> email accounts?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, yes :(
[12:53] <_Otaku_> sheesh
[12:53] <_Otaku_> i have "only" 5
[12:54] <Bamm`laptop> Hehe otaku, shouldn't be hard to backup e-mails daily, weekly, etc with a cron and simple script :]
[12:54] <_Otaku_> i don't know how to make one or even how to use one :)
[12:54] <_Otaku_> not yet, that is
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Bamm`laptop, psssst dont say script so loud please i had to write one for someone yesterday :(
[12:55] <joda_> hey all - simple question. I know that I can rerun the config that is done during install, but I don't remember the command to do so - can anyone help?
[12:55] <Set> base-config ?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> xserver?
[12:55] <joda_> set: that's the one :) thanks
[12:56] <Set> No, thank you! I was able to help someone ^^
[12:56] <_Otaku_> Updating mozilla-thunderbird chrome registry...find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
[12:56] <_Otaku_> find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
[12:56] <_Otaku_> done.
[12:57] <_Otaku_> :S
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Set, your not done helping joda_ yet :(
[12:57] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, please dont paste in here and btw it worked ignore those warnings i do :))
[12:58] <_Otaku_> sorry :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> im tried of this -f install command im gonna dream about it :(
[12:58] <Set> gnomefreak, I aint?
[12:58] <_Otaku_> gnahh, it still doesn't work
[12:59] <flax> bimberi: i am again here,..  was running for a cup of soup
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Set, didnt joda_ need the command?
[12:59] <Set> gnomefreak, I gave it to him
[12:59] <gnomefreak> oh ok sorry
[12:59] <Set> :p
[12:59] <joda_> hmm - well, it didn't do what I thought it'd do :/ I was hoping I'd be able to change the available screen resolutions...
[01:00] <joda_> but It was the one I was thinking of
[01:00] <meepy> How do I install "Writing Aid" for danish language?
[01:00] <meepy> I fpossible, it says "broken package, fix first"
[01:00] <_Otaku_> ah it starts again :) but now i'm back where i was before, it still isn't allowing me to compose new messages
[01:01] <redguy|work> joda_: to change screen resolutions you might want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <_Rappy_> A friend of mine gets this error when X is starting up (right after a fresh installation): "No symbols found" Anyone know what's wrong?
[01:02] <Bamm`laptop> Otaku, you did 100% fresh install earlier ?
[01:03] <_Otaku_> Bamm`laptop: yeap
[01:03] <_Otaku_> well i did the commands you told me to do
[01:03] <_Otaku_> and it appears they worked fine
[01:03] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr ill bbl
[01:03] <joda_> redguy: that gave me the options I needed to change -thanks
[01:04] <pome> expose for Gnome?
[01:04] <joda_> gonna restart gnome - If I don't return it's either because my xserver got nuked, or because it worked =)
[01:04] <_Otaku_> wb :) are you german?
[01:05] <wb> yes
[01:05] <_Otaku_> are you using thunderbird? :D
[01:05] <Bamm`laptop> Haha
[01:05] <wb> so far
[01:05] <_Otaku_> aslkdjfskldj
[01:06] <_Otaku_> can i pm you?
[01:06] <redguy|work> interesting _Otaku_
[01:06] <wb> ok
[01:07] <Bamm`laptop> Otaku PM me too (need registered nickname)
[01:07] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:08] <cyriL__> hello
[01:08] <cyriL__> need help
[01:09] <cyriL__> for AMD64bits with ubuntu32bits: do i have to install linux-image-686 or linux-image-k7 ???
[01:09] <thegladiator> hola
[01:10] <thegladiator> i am on 512 MB RAM
[01:10] <cyriL__> hello
[01:10] <cyriL__> someone can help me?
[01:10] <thegladiator> my previous mem was bothering me very much ! now ubuntu is working fine ...thanks to memtest86+
[01:10] <meepy> How do I install "Writing Aid" for danish language?
[01:11] <thegladiator> open office is coming in a jiffy . i like it
[01:12] <visik7> why some apps are compiled with --disable-gnome-vfs ?
[01:12] <Ng> visik7: such as?
[01:12] <visik7> beep media player
[01:12] <visik7> and it's compiled static
[01:12] <flax> cyriL__:  no i dont your guestion
[01:13] <flax> cyriL__:  ;)
[01:13] <flax> cyriL__: what is your question
[01:13] <bimberi> flax: find %dir% -type d -exec chmod a+x {} \;
[01:13] <Ng> visik7: not sure, perhaps its gnome-vfs support isn't stable?
[01:13] <robotgeek_temp>  /j #kubuntu
[01:13] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:13] <flax> bimberi: Thanx...
[01:14] <bimberi> flax: np - i learnt something too :)
[01:14] <visik7> Ng: I hope isthe only apps that has this setting
[01:14] <Ng> visik7: I don't think it's compiled statically though, I just installed it and it's linked against a bunch of libraries
[01:14] <visik7> Ng: apt-get source beep-media-player and look in debian/rules
[01:14] <flax> bimberi: still i find it ugly that it cannot be done in 1 command,... well we can life  with this ;)
[01:14] <_Otaku_> wah, where did bamm go? :(
[01:15] <bimberi> flax: make a script - then it's 1 command ;)
[01:16] <Ng> visik7: --enable-static builds its libraries statically, so libbeep, but the main beep program is dynamic
[01:16] <visik7> Ng oh ok
[01:16] <cyriL__> flax, with an AMD64bits proc + ubuntu32bits; do i have to install linux-image-686 or linux-image-k7 ??
[01:16] <Ng> k7
[01:16] <flax> bimberi:  on my desktop i would do this,.. but we are talkign about servers here ;)
[01:16] <visik7> btw I would like to enable gstreamer for bmp is there any way ?
[01:17] <Ng> visik7: I don't think so, it's still listed in their TODO file
[01:18] <HCl> can someone help me? whenever i start xscreensaver, and i press a key to get to the locked screen to input my password, the text on the lock screen is completely garbled, it's that i know i have to fill in my password, otherwise i wouldn't have a clue to what it's trying to say
[01:18] <HCl> does anyone know how to fix xscreensaver's fonts?
[01:18] <visik7> Ng: on the wiki says to use --enable-gst --disable-xine but that options in ./configure are missed
[01:18] <_jacob> you probably need to install 100 dpi & 75 dpi fonts
[01:18] <flax> cyriL__: i think that the k7 should run,.. but im not sure about this
[01:18] <HCl> _jacob: how do i do that?
[01:19] <Ng> visik7: well the version in ubuntu is from august, so maybe the gst support is newer than that
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__: maybe you should ask the question to everyone, instead of asking  me ;)
[01:19] <visik7> Ng: ok maybe I can get source from dapper
[01:19] <_jacob> apt-get install xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__: but you can always try,.. grub will let you also boot from your older kernel's if im not mistaken
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__:  ;)
[01:20] <Ng> visik7: possibly, although dapper is on gstreamer0.10. Not sure if that will prevent it working with 0.8 in breezy
[01:20] <cyriL__> flax, right. thanks ! ;-)
[01:20] <HCl> hmm...
[01:20] <HCl> xfonts-100dpi is installed..
[01:20] <_jacob> how bout 75
[01:20] <HCl> so is 75dpi
[01:20] <HCl> so that wasn't it :/
[01:20] <cyriL__> flax, take a look on board... not clear http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/kernel_optimise
[01:20] <_jacob> hmmm
[01:20] <Set> How can I setup proftpd to function as a ftp server with support for sftp, and have only anonymous access, with upload rights to /home/ftp/upload ?
[01:20] <HCl> i use enlightenment as window manager, can that have any influence?
[01:21] <_jacob> i don't know...i use fluxbox...but i remember that problem once....what are you running dapper or breezy?
[01:21] <flax> cyriL__:  french, not my best language :D
[01:21] <flax> cyriL__: did you try google?
[01:22] <HCl> breezy
[01:22] <HCl> what's dapper?
[01:22] <mwe> HCl: the next ubuntu release
[01:22] <_jacob> dapper = latest & greatest = dev version
[01:22] <HCl> ahh.
[01:22] <_jacob> i use dapper
[01:22] <HCl> maybe i should dist-upgrade then?
[01:22] <_jacob> have no issues
[01:22] <Ng> HCl: no
[01:23] <cyriL__> help: for AMD64bits proc + ubuntu32bits: do i have to install kernel linux-image-686 OR linux-image-k7???
[01:23] <mwe> _jacob: I wouldn't use it on a production machine though
[01:23] <Ng> if you need to ask, you shouldn't be running dapper
[01:23] <HCl> mk.
[01:23] <Ng> cyriL__: k7
[01:23] <_jacob> definetly true
[01:23] <_jacob> no production!!!!
[01:23] <HCl> okay.
[01:23] <_jacob> my personal play machine
[01:23] <HCl> so.. any ideas about what causes xscreensaver to mess up? :/
[01:23] <cyriL__> flax, on irc french canal i did not have same ansxers from users...
[01:23] <mwe> _jacob: it's great for that purpose
[01:23] <_Otaku_> ! ! THUNDERBIRD WORKS ! !
[01:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, _Otaku_
[01:23] <_Otaku_> :D
[01:23] <HCl> it's not a horrid problem, it's mostly just an eyesore..
[01:24] <_jacob> you know what you can do...you can try "apt-get install kscreensaver -s" see the deps on that and maybe see what you are missing
[01:24] <mwe> _Otaku_: great news. I've used it for a couple of years already though
[01:24] <flax> cyriL__: grub is your best friend ;)
[01:24] <HCl> hm.
[01:24] <_jacob> has anyone got bmpx to work?
[01:24] <flax> cyriL__: i soemtimes screw up,..
[01:24] <_jacob> i am really struggling
[01:24] <_Otaku_> lol mwe, i had a little problem with it, it wouldn't send mails
[01:24] <_Otaku_> but problem solved, was something with the extensions it seems
[01:24] <flax> but if ng says k7 i also say k7
[01:25] <_jacob> i can't get the thing to even run
[01:25] <mwe> _Otaku_: ok
[01:25] <_jacob> some libdbus crap
[01:25] <cyriL__> Ng, ok linux-image-k7 is better than linux-image-k7-2-6-12-...... ?
[01:25] <HCl> shouldn't xscreensaver refuse to run though, if it's missing libraries?
[01:25] <cyriL__> flax, right but i m noob
[01:25] <_jacob> i don't think its libs i think its fonts
[01:25] <HCl> *nods*
[01:25] <HCl> yea
[01:26] <HCl>  kdebase-bin kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2 kscreensaver libarts1c2
[01:26] <HCl> libnetpbm10 libopenexr2c2 libpcre3 libqt3-mt menu-xdg netpbm
[01:26] <mwe> cyriL__: it's the same. linux-image-k7 just installs the latest real k7 kernel
[01:26] <Ng> cyriL__: linux-image-k7 is a virtual package that depends on linux-image-k7-2.6.12-... - if you want you can just install "linux-k7" and it will automatically depend on the latest k7 kernel packages
[01:26] <HCl> are the things kscreensaver would need
[01:26] <_jacob> hmm
[01:27] <HCl> i wonder what xscreensaver uses for the locked dialog anyways.. gtk or qt..?
[01:27] <Ng> gtk I believe
[01:27] <HCl> hm..
[01:27] <_jacob> i think these guys are worth install...can't do harm i think...libqt3-mt  libarts1c2 libopenexr2c2 libpcre3 menu-xdg
[01:27] <Ng> although it might just be hacked to look a bit like it, it used to use raw athena widgets
[01:27] <_jacob> but -s
[01:27] <cyriL__> automatic updates will run with linux-image ?
[01:28] <_jacob> so ANYONE bmpx ?!? i am desperate
[01:28] <HCl> okay, i'll try..
[01:28] <Ng> hehe, yeah, it is still using raw widgets
[01:28] <HCl> i'll skip arts cause thats just sound, right?
[01:28] <mwe> _jacob: do you mean if they will update the image?
[01:28] <crimsun> _jacob: the deb linked from BMPx's wiki should work just fine
[01:28] <_jacob> no...bmpx is the latest thing from the house of xmms
[01:28] <drcode> any one mybe know open source server for streaming
[01:28] <Ng> cyriL__: it'll just tell you when there is a new kernel through the normal update-notifier (the little red circle that appears on the panel when updates are available)
[01:28] <drcode> like windows media player?
[01:29] <_jacob> crimsum...doesn't work
[01:29] <crimsun> _jacob: what does it break on?
[01:29] <_jacob> blows windows media player away
[01:29] <_jacob> Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <_jacob>         Depends: libdbus-glib-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <_jacob>         Depends: libtag1c2 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
[01:29] <HCl> didn't help...
[01:29] <cyriL__> if i choose linux-image = last kernel but without auto updates?
[01:30] <crimsun> _jacob: it just needs to be recompiled against the newer libdbus-1-dev
[01:30] <cyriL__> linux-k7 = last kernel and auto updates?
[01:30] <_jacob> tried that
[01:30] <crimsun> _jacob: (and of course the corresponding libdbus-glib-1-dev)
[01:30] <mwe> cyriL__: I think you can choose hold back for packages you don't want to update
[01:30] <dzinas> hello
[01:30] <dzinas> maby someone can help me?
[01:30] <mwe> !helpme
[01:30] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:31] <dzinas> !helpme
[01:31] <cyriL__> mwe, sorry don't understand...
[01:31] <_jacob> crimson...installing now
[01:31] <flax> dzinas: Welcome to #ubuntu, Please ask your question
[01:31] <flax> ;)
[01:31] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:31] <dzinas> maby someone could tell me how to shere internet frow ubuntu?
[01:32] <dzinas> i have 2 lan cards
[01:32] <cyriL__> mwe, see my previous post. right?
[01:33] <_jacob> ok trying to recomplile bmpx
[01:33] <_Otaku_> !wine
[01:33] <Ng> cyriL__: just install linux-k7 - it will then work like the rest of the system with respect to upgrades
[01:33] <flax> dzinas: /etc/network/options => ip_forward = yes (assuming that you want to share the same network)
[01:34] <Sux> hello niggaz
[01:34] <flax> dzinas: when you want to let the server to connect your lan to the internet, it becomes another story,.. you have to run nat and dhcp and stuff like that
[01:34] <mwe> cyriL__: at least in aptitude you can choose to hold package
[01:34] <flax> dzinas: i assume you want the last?
[01:34] <Sux> hello noobs
[01:35] <Sux>
[01:35] <flax> hello sux ;)
[01:35] <dzinas> i want to shere internet to another computer
[01:35] <flax> dzinas: maybe you should have a look at  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[01:35] <Sux>
[01:35] <g0dz1`> hi all
[01:35] <mwe> Sux: don't be lame
[01:35] <dzinas> ok
[01:35] <HCl> still no luck... hrm...
[01:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey g0dz1`
[01:35] <Sux> mwe
[01:36] <g0dz1`> rofl
[01:36] <_jacob> HCI: maybe you should check the xorg channel
[01:36] <HCl> k..
[01:36] <g0dz1`> PuMpErNiCkLe, How are you doing?
[01:36] <Sux> hmmm
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g0dz1`: Not bad, not bad... you?
[01:36] <g0dz1`> Sux,
[01:36] <Sux> it is really noobs
[01:36] <dzinas> flax,  thaks ]
[01:36] <Sux> g0dz1`
[01:37] <Sux> yo nugopacbI
[01:37] <_jacob> HCI: another thing ....you mite have to restart x after those installs
[01:37] <g0dz1`> PuMpErNiCkLe, Perfectly =
[01:37] <_jacob> and force-reload
[01:37] <g0dz1`> =)
[01:37] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500679
[01:37] <g0dz1`> Sux,
[01:37] <Sux>
[01:37] <Sux> g0dz1` nme
[01:38] <dzinas> flax, tomas@Juodas:~$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:38] <dzinas> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[01:38] <dzinas>   what it meens?;]
[01:38] <Ng> Badm4n: you'd be more likely to get answers on a htb channel/forum/mailinglist, it's unlikely to have many users here
[01:38] <g0dz1`> Sux, ?
[01:38] <Sux>
[01:38] <g0dz1`> Sux,
[01:38] <mwe> dzinas: you can't sudo echo >
[01:38] <g0dz1`>
[01:38] <HCl> hmmm..
[01:38] <g0dz1`>
[01:38] <crimsun> dzinas: incorrect syntax.    You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:46] <_jason> GhostFreeman, then join me in #flood
[01:47] <GhostFreeman> and I have to be at school in about 20 minutes
[01:47] <kemik> Seveas:  maybe make topic more clear ?
[01:47] <_jacob> crimsun: any other ideas?
[01:47] <kemik> and not swamped with stuff
[01:47] <chmod775> come later after school
[01:47] <crimsun> _jacob: I'm sorry, but I don't have to debug the compilation currently. I have a faculty meeting in a few minutes.
[01:47] <crimsun> have time to^
[01:48] <Badm4n> i need bandwidth limiter for client... what is the name of the packaged ( UBUNTU 5.10 )
[01:48] <_jacob> thats ok...man good luck!
[01:48] <_jacob> thanks anyhow
[01:48] <cmot> Yo all!
[01:48] <crimsun> _jacob: I'll do a build after I return, ETA 2hrs.
[01:49] <_jacob> does that mean that i will just apt-get install bmpx and thats it?
[01:49] <cmot> DHCP Q: dhcp.$if.lease is in /var/run and apparently gets cleared after reboot.  Where do I change this? (Preferably by moving the lease file to /var/lib/dhcp3 or so)
[01:49] <crimsun> _jacob: no, we're not going to have BMPx in Dapper.
[01:50] <_jacob> ah ok....then i'll cya l8r...good luck
[01:50] <cmot> (dhcp should remember the lease and should ask for the same IP after reboot)
[01:51] <fcastelo> Hi everyone
[01:51] <_jacob> crimson: btw...if you reccommend a different MP than i am willing to here...this all started because i couldn't put xmms in the dock tray without hiding it in the panel at startup :)
[01:51] <_jacob> here=hear
[01:51] <_jacob> soem bug in xmms
[01:51] <fcastelo> I new on Ubuntu community and I need help to use MS Visio in Breezy. Someone can help me?
[01:52] <_jacob> so anyone else besides crimsun that experimented with BMPx?
[01:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Badm4n: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25911.html
[01:52] <_jacob> fcastelo...look into cxoffice
[01:52] <zoka> hi ubuntus! Where I can find "promo" material? I would like to put ubuntu logo on my blog. Something like "spread the word firefox project"
[01:52] <_jacob> cxoffice=crossover
[01:53] <fcastelo> Yes. Ie already done it. However it's just compatible with Visio 2000 Std.
[01:53] <_jacob> fcastelo...no...the new cxoffice works with 2003
[01:53] <fcastelo> You mean v.5?
[01:54] <_jacob> yeh i think thats it
[01:54] <fcastelo> I've done that too.
[01:54] <_jacob> you have to change your default "whats it called"...to 2000
[01:55] <_jacob> fscastelo: cxoffice/bin/cxsetup
[01:55] <Badm4n> i need bandwidth limiter for client... what is the name of the packaged ( UBUNTU 5.10 ) i need to limit my client that have ip <IP_ADDRESS>-10 and no need limit my client ip <IP_ADDRESS>-30 what is the packaged that suitable for me ? ( not base on eth )
[01:56] <_jacob> Badm4n: look into trickle
[01:56] <Badm4n> trickle ?
[01:56] <fcastelo> Ok. I gona try this. Thanks.
[01:56] <_jacob> yup
[01:56] <cmot> Anybody?
[01:56] <cmot> DHCP Q: dhcp.$if.lease is in /var/run and apparently gets cleared after reboot.  Where do I change this? (Preferably by moving the lease file to /var/lib/dhcp3 or so)
[01:56] <Rocco83> hi.
[01:56] <Badm4n> what is that trickle ?
[01:57] <_jacob> it is a bandwidth limiter
[01:57] <fcastelo> Is that possible to use Visio with the new wine version on Breezy? 0.95?
[01:57] <Rocco83> where "System->Preferences->Removable Drives & Media" point out? i have to disable automount, but i am using kubuntu... or else, where should i go to do it manually?
[01:57] <Badm4n> allrite i'll apt-get install trickle then
[01:57] <_jacob> i use dapper
[01:58] <_jacob> badm4n...i like trickle cause its simple, configurable and to the point
[01:58] <Badm4n> can you tell me where is the .conf ?
[01:58] <junior> ol
[01:58] <Badm4n> /etc/trickled.conf found it
[01:58] <Badm4n> :D
[01:58] <_jacob> man trickle
[01:58] <Badm4n> i forgot to update db
[01:58] <Badm4n> lolz
[01:59] <junior> estou tendo problemas para com wine ser4 que alguem pode me ajudar?
[01:59] <_jacob> "vatos locos forever"
[01:59] <_jacob> ;-)
[01:59] <Badm4n> _jacob, is trickle can set for each client ? i mean like i told b4 .. <IP_ADDRESS>-15 <-- limited ,,,, <IP_ADDRESS>-30 <--- no limited
[01:59] <kemik> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:00] <_jacob> can be done aswell
[02:00] <perceptor> Hello
[02:00] <selinium> Any radeon card users about?
[02:01] <_jacob> bad4mn: you also have this "apt-cache search traffic |grep shaper"
[02:01] <selinium> My Radeon Graphics card appears to be working well. But I don't know how to test is it is? :) Any ideas greatfully received!
[02:02] <Badm4n> i have apt-get install shapecfg too
[02:02] <Badm4n> but it's look using devices
[02:02] <Badm4n> not ip's
[02:02] <selinium> Badm4n, I have an article at home on how to set up trickle. But not here. Have you looked for a trickle tutorial?
[02:02] <_jacob> there are many tricks out there to do it by ip's
[02:03] <_jacob> i am pretty sure trickle can to
[02:03] <BradM> whoa
[02:03] <kitty_> hi.. can someone tell me if its possible to add a second hard drive from a windows computor to a linux computor and still retain the data on the disk..?
[02:03] <Badm4n> selinium, i have read man trickle ... and trickle.conf too.. but it looks like not limited the ip bandwidth but the services/the packets
[02:04] <Badm4n> selinium, do you have anything to help me ?
[02:04] <_jacob> kitty_: what file format?
[02:04] <kitty_> fat32
[02:04] <selinium> Badm4n, I'll see what I can find...
[02:04] <Badm4n> selinium, thx b4
[02:04] <_jacob> kitty_: shouldn't be a problem
[02:04] <_jacob> plug, mount, and play
[02:05] <kitty_> cool... ive pluged it in and it recognises the disk but i dunno how to access it...
[02:05] <_jacob> how many disks in total? and are they ide or what?
[02:05] <Badm4n> _jacob i am pretty sure trickle can to <-- how ? can you give me the example .conf ?
[02:05] <kitty_> 2 the new one is deffinatly ide
[02:06] <_jacob> Badm4n: let me see if i can find a conf hold on
[02:06] <Badm4n> _jacob, thx b4
[02:06] <kitty_> but i dont have a clue how to set it up....
[02:08] <_jacob> kitty_: take a look at the disk partitions using fdisk -l /dev/hdb or hda
[02:08] <_jacob> whichever is the disk
[02:08] <_jacob> then:
[02:08] <fcastelo> _jacob...Is that possible to use visio with the latest version of wine? 0.95?
[02:08] <_jacob> kitty_: you should create a dir like /disk2 or something...then mount /dev/hdb1 /disk2
[02:08] <kitty_> ok.. hang on
[02:09] <Badm4n> nvm
[02:09] <C-O-L-T> how to have quick time plugin for firefox ?
[02:09] <_jacob> i use Wine 0.9.4 with cxoffice v5 - visio 2003 no issues !
[02:09] <kitty_> how do i create a directory?
[02:09] <selinium> kitty_,  mkdir
[02:09] <kitty_> thanks
[02:10] <_jason> C-O-L-T, use mplayerplug-in
[02:10] <C-O-L-T> ok
[02:10] <fcastelo> _jacob...Breezy version didn't come with Wine, is that?
[02:10] <C-O-L-T> thanks
[02:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell C-O-L-T about mplayer
[02:10] <_jacob> badm4n...sorry bro...can't find my old conf with that stuff...you are going to have to search google for trickle configuration help
[02:10] <_jason> C-O-L-T, the packageg name is 'mozilla-mplayer' but you'll need to install mplayer first.  Ubotu sent you some info on how to do that.
[02:11] <darkbit> hi
[02:11] <kitty_> ive done all that and its not sed anythin to me... does that mean it didnt work ?
[02:11] <_jacob> fcastelo....apt-get install wine (like i said i am on dapper not breezy)
[02:11] <darkbit> i have a problem with g_object_get
[02:11] <_jacob> kitty_: no looks good
[02:11] <_jacob> cd /disk2
[02:12] <kitty_> cool..
[02:12] <_jacob> ls
[02:12] <_jacob> do you see the files
[02:12] <darkbit> can someone tell me in which package g_object_get is located?
[02:12] <_jacob> kitty ?
[02:13] <kitty_> it says command not found... ive tried it with sudo infront aswell?...
[02:13] <administrador> hello
[02:13] <_jacob> kitty what command?
[02:13] <kitty_> cd /disk2
[02:13] <Badm4n> selinium, any thing ?
[02:13] <_jacob> what did you call the directory were you mounted the hd
[02:13] <_jacob> ?
[02:14] <kitty_> disk2
[02:14] <_jacob> in / ?
[02:14] <selinium> Badm4n, NOt on ip shaping. Can you not run trickle on all the boxes?
[02:14] <kitty_> yeh
[02:14] <_jacob> cd /
[02:14] <_jacob> ls
[02:14] <_jacob> do you see it?
[02:15] <kitty_> iyeh
[02:15] <_jacob> cd disk2
[02:15] <Badm4n> no.. i mean i controll the bandwidth limiter from my gateway server
[02:15] <kitty_> it ses permision denied
[02:16] <_jacob> chmod 775 disk2
[02:16] <_jacob> sudo chmod 775 disk2
[02:16] <mwe> permissions of mount points have no effect
[02:17] <kitty_> it ses.... hmod: changing permissions of `disk2': Read-only file system
[02:17] <mwe> only options to mount do
[02:17] <selinium> Badm4n, I can't help you. Sorry. I need the magazine I have at home.
[02:17] <ejofee> how do i detect an external (usb) hdd in ubuntu?
[02:17] <Robin13> hiya.
[02:17] <Robin13> how to install the Xorg-libraries?
[02:17] <_jacob> kitty can you cd disk2 as root?
[02:17] <mwe> ejofee: check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[02:17] <selinium> DOes it not automatically?
[02:18] <kitty_> hang on
[02:19] <kitty_> i dunno... do i type that into it...
[02:19] <_jacob> kitty_: su -
[02:19] <_jacob> then type in the root passwd
[02:19] <_jacob> the cd /disk2
[02:19] <_jacob> the=then
[02:19] <mwe> _jacob: root doesn't have password in ubuntu
[02:19] <mwe> _jacob: you're supposed to use sudo
[02:20] <mwe> _jacob: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[02:20] <Badm4n> #acl x1 url_regex "/etc/streaming"
[02:20] <Badm4n> #acl x2 urlpath_regex -i "/etc/download"
[02:20] <_jacob> mwest: i always change that :)
[02:20] <Badm4n> what is the different ?
[02:20] <_jacob> sorry :)
[02:20] <Badm4n>  and what is the command to make my squid.conf read /etc/download/ext.acl ? that my ext.acl are the exe zip tar.gz
[02:20] <mwe> _jacob: that defeats basic ubuntu security policy though
[02:21] <kitty_> AFTER TYPING SU- i get a password prompt then i get this msg after enterin my passwrd.. su: Authentication failure
[02:21] <kitty_> Sorry.
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: use sudo -i
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: root does not have a password in ubuntu
[02:21] <_jacob> mwest: i know....its my specific purposes
[02:21] <_jacob> mwest: sorry bout that
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: sudo -i gives you a root prompt
[02:21] <kitty_> ok
[02:21] <Hoxzer> what I can do if I lost system tray cons?
[02:22] <ZiX> guys?
[02:22] <mwe> kitty_: you need to mount disks differently to access it as user
[02:22] <ZiX> how to install the xorg-x11 libs?
[02:22] <kresten> I lost sound in mplayer, after i tryed to upgrade my codecs... Can anyone help?
[02:22] <_jason> Hoxzer, by lost do you mean you removed them or they just magically disappeared?
[02:22] <mwe> kresten: install the old codecs which worked again maybe
[02:22] <_jacob> magically heh
[02:23] <Hoxzer> _jason: I haven't removed them but I don't see them
[02:23] <_jacob> brb
[02:23] <kitty_> when i type sudo -i i get a ROOT pasword promt... wht do i do with it..
[02:23] <ZiX> anyone?
[02:23] <_jason> Hoxzer, you can try 'killall gnome-panle'.  That will refresh the panel
[02:23] <Katie^> mm
[02:23] <kresten> mwe, yeah, well I can't remember where I found it...
[02:23] <Katie^> apple
[02:23] <_jason> Hoxzer, typo, 'killall gnome-panel'
[02:23] <mwe> kitty_: he wanted you to try cd /disk2 as root
[02:23] <Hoxzer> still dont see them
[02:24] <mwe> kresten: pc and breezy?
[02:24] <foresight> Problem: I get "No Symbols Found" when I try to run startx after install. Anyone have a clue?
[02:24] <_jason> Hoxzer, strange, have you restarted X?
[02:24] <pfarmer> ZiX, what are you trying to do?
[02:24] <kitty_> it ses.. /disk2#
[02:24] <selinium> kitty_, put your password in
[02:24] <ZiX> install a KDE style
[02:24] <kresten> mwe, yeah
[02:24] <mwe> kitty_: yeah because root can access anything
[02:24] <kitty_> it dint ask for one
[02:24] <_jason> Hoxzer, if that doesn't work, I would just manually add them back.
[02:24] <mwe> !tell kresten about w32codecs
[02:25] <mwe> kresten: read /msg from ubotu
[02:25] <kitty_> ahh... so does that mean i can see it now.. or do i stil have to set it up to see it on my desktop.
[02:25] <mwe> kitty_: sudo remembers your password for 15 minutes
[02:25] <pfarmer> ZiX, I don't understand why you're needing to install xorg libs for a kde style
[02:25] <mwe> kitty_: mount it properly then
[02:25] <ZiX> hecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <ZiX> cuz of that
[02:26] <kitty_> how...
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: what kind of disk is it what file system I mean
[02:26] <kitty_> FAT32
[02:26] <kitty_> its IDE
[02:26] <_jacob> kitty_: can you see the files if you type: ls
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: yeah
[02:26] <pfarmer> ZiX: ok so you need the devel packages
[02:26] <ZiX> yup
[02:26] <_jacob> wonderful...mount as mwe explained then shortcut on your desktop
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: did you edit fstab or just mount from the command line?
[02:27] <_jacob> she mounted from command line
[02:27] <nathan__> i need help getting my wifi to work with this
[02:27] <pfarmer> ZiX: ok try libx11-dev
[02:27] <foresight> Problem: I get "No Symbols Found" when I try to run startx after install. Anyone have a clue?
[02:27] <ZiX> thanks
[02:27] <ZiX> :)
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: did you edit fstab or just mount from the command line?
[02:28] <kitty_> i havent done a thing.. all ive done is shoved it into the pc.. and pluged it in.. oh and sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /disk2
[02:28] <alexissoft> coucou
[02:28] <lowman62> g'morn room :)
[02:28] <alexissoft> s/coucou/hi/
[02:28] <Robin13> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: ok
[02:28] <Robin13> damn..
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: edit fstab
[02:28] <_jacob> guys....i gotta run...catch ya'll later! be healthy, wealthy, & peaceful
[02:28] <kitty_> ok
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: what name do you want for the disk?
[02:29] <Robin13> pfarmer: doesnt work
[02:29] <kitty_> at the moment my command line ses...root@ubuntu:/disk2# is this ok .. i think its allready named disk2
[02:30] <pfarmer> Robin13: ok - hang on a sec
[02:30] <gnomefreak> foresight, did you just install X or did you install a desktop enviornment?
[02:30] <foresight> gnomefreak, installed ubuntu to a desktop
[02:31] <mwe> kitty_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:31] <mwe> kitty_: read that it has all you need to know
[02:31] <gnomefreak> foresight, did you do a server install or default install?
[02:31] <foresight> gnomefreak, default install
[02:31] <Secreth`X> I plugged in a new cd player in my computer.. but it doesnt show up in "Computer" nor in fstab, what should I do?
[02:31] <kitty_> thanks... before i go ... is it possible to have a different background picture on each of the 4 desktops in gnome
[02:32] <gnomefreak> foresight, and you only have command line?
[02:32] <mwe> Secreth`X: you should check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[02:32] <pfarmer> Robin13: what does the configure error log say?
[02:32] <mwe> Secreth`X: then edit fstab appropiately
[02:32] <Robin13> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:32] <mwe> kitty_: I don't know. I kde it is though
[02:32] <foresight> gnomefreak, correct...tried to do the dpgk-reconfigure thing, but didnt help
[02:32] <Secreth`X> mwe, k ill try
[02:33] <gnomefreak> foresight, are you getting any errors when X trys to load?
[02:33] <kitty_> yeh i know.. i have both i just wondered.. thanks anyways... thats the most help ive been able to get for ages..cheers
[02:33] <kitty_> oh yeh.. is it safe to have gnome and kde
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ofcourse kitty
[02:34] <mwe> kitty_: sure
[02:34] <hawking> anyone who has tried 2.6.15 on ubuntu?
[02:34] <foresight> gnomefreak, only thing I get is Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions7libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o" No symbols found
[02:34] <foresight> 3 of those
[02:34] <kitty_> though so.. KDE isnt as good i dont think though.. but its not a big deal
[02:35] <Secreth`X> mwe, they both show up on dmesg.. but both on hdc
[02:35] <afonit> why when the guys at novell take screenshots of their work, they always have ubuntu running, instead of suse?
[02:35] <mwe> Secreth`X: can you pastebin the relevant parts of dmesg please?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> foresight, that error im not sure about im sorry :(
[02:36] <Secreth`X> mwe, of course.. hold on please
[02:36] <foresight> gnomefreak, it seems no-one is :p havent found anything on the ubuntu help sites, or through google =(
[02:36] <Thorondor> .join #movix
[02:36] <Thorondor> arg :)
[02:37] <odat> foresight, something went silly i would just reinstall
[02:37] <gnomefreak> foresight, i would try just to see if it works running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :(
[02:37] <Secreth`X> mwe, I hope it is enough, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6959
[02:37] <foresight> odat, I've reinstalled 3 times now :p
[02:37] <gnomefreak> afonit, more than likely they are using suse
[02:38] <odat> foresight, same error everytime?
[02:38] <foresight> odat, yupp
[02:38] <gnomefreak> foresight, it sounds like something isnt installing from cd or loading from cd
[02:38] <afonit> gnomefreak:  they have the ubuntu logo next to 'applications' on the menu
[02:38] <foresight> and I've tried different install options
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: that's really odd
[02:39] <gnomefreak> afonit, ok than maybe they are :) now you know ubuntu is better than suse if suse users are using ubuntu :))
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: I've never seen that before
[02:39] <lowman62> foresight: check in your home directory for .xinitrc do you have this and does it have "exec <somewindowsessiontype>" in it?
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: are the drives setup correctly?
[02:39] <Secreth`X> mwe, that doesnt sound well :s
[02:39] <odat> foresight, what you should do is remove the cd repository from the sources.list then do a sudo apt-get update   then a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <Secreth`X> mwe, yes
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: one is master, the other one slave?
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: on second ide?
[02:40] <Secreth`X> mwe,  iirc yes
[02:40] <takedown> hi
[02:40] <mwe> Secreth`X: please double check the jumpers on the drives
[02:40] <Secreth`X> mwe, jumpers?
[02:40] <mwe> Secreth`X: yes
[02:40] <foresight> odat, where would I find the sources.list file ?
[02:40] <takedown> guys who know how i can downgrade from 64 ubuntu to 32 ubuntu?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> the lil tiny things that go on pins on back of disk
[02:41] <odat> etc/apt
[02:41] <foresight> k
[02:41] <ejofee> is there any menu item which helps me set ubuntu to start kde instead of gnome next time? ubuntu / gnome *menu item*, not gdm or kdm menu item!
[02:41] <mwe> Secreth`X: they should have a little metal thing you can move on the backside
[02:41] <odat> ejofee, in the login screen
[02:41] <Secreth`X> mwe, k ill check, hold on
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ejofee, on the log-in screen choose kde and it will ask if you want it to be default click yes
[02:42] <mwe> Secreth`X: and a drawing showing where it should sit to be slave or master
[02:42] <takedown> i try add binary-i386 to sources.list but apt cant find needed files...
[02:42] <Secreth`X> mwe, ill check it
[02:43] <lowman62> foresight: what happens when you ... startx  <--??
[02:43] <ejofee> odat, gnomefreak: thank you, bu is there's no way to do it from *within* gnome, rather than from the outside (kdm, gdm)?
[02:43] <ejofee> s/bu/but/
[02:43] <foresight> lowman62, it just errors with the "No symbols found" error..
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ejofee, when you installed kde it should have asked you
[02:43] <lowman62> foresight: check in your home directory for .xinitrc do you have this? and does it have "exec <somewindowsessiontype>" in it?
[02:44] <ejofee> gnomefreak: how do i run the kde post-install apt-get script again?
[02:44] <foresight> lowman62, it aint there
[02:44] <takedown> Can some1 help me with my problem?
[02:44] <purplefeltangel> how do i set it so that in firefox, when a link is supposed to open in a new window, it opens in a new tab instead?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ejofee, not sure are you in gnome now?
[02:45] <pfarmer> takedown: just ask....
[02:45] <lowman62> foresight: that is the problem...apparently you are not the only one I found a discussion thread on that
[02:45] <ejofee> gnomefreak: i chose kdm instead of gdm. does this necessarily mean ubuntu now is using kde?
[02:45] <takedown> guys who know how i can downgrade from 64 ubuntu to 32 ubuntu?
[02:45] <ejofee> gnomefreak: yes, in gnome
[02:45] <odat> purplefeltangel, preferences within firefox
[02:45] <mwe> takedown: reinstalling is probably easiest
[02:45] <takedown> nope
[02:45] <mwe> takedown: then tell me how
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ejofee, log out and log back in changing it to kde instead of gnome
[02:45] <takedown> i want do it only with apt
[02:45] <lowman62> foresight: I am looking at mine to see what you need to do
[02:45] <lowman62> one sec
[02:46] <foresight> k, thanks
[02:46] <mwe> takedown: I'm afraid you can't as changing to 32bit would make your current kernel break
[02:47] <aggressor> hey
[02:47] <odat> sup
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mwe, isnt 32bit kernel installed by default?
[02:47] <aggressor> can u tell me where i can find FAQ for gnome look
[02:47] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't know
[02:47] <aggressor> themes and
[02:47] <aggressor> shit
[02:47] <lowman62> foresight: did you install breezy ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:47] <aggressor> ubuntu
[02:48] <takedown> mwe: why i cant do apt-get dist-upgrade and reinstall all packages for 32 bit?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> aggressor, www.gnome-look.org  i think is the site
[02:48] <odat> aggressor, the best damn theme out there for gnome is nuvola   its in synaptic
[02:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: he want't to downgrade from 64bit to 32bit. I don't know how to do that with apt. I doubt it's feasable
[02:48] <foresight> lowman62, breezy ubunty 5.10
[02:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: I you know a way that wont break, please tell takedown
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mwe, even if it is i would go with your first thought as it would be dangerous or atleast could be
[02:48] <lowman62> okay one sec
[02:49] <Set> isn't that like, impossible?
[02:49] <aggressor> i need just hit search in synaptic ?
[02:49] <aggressor> im noob on linux
[02:49] <odat> right
[02:49] <Johnny0> Morning all
[02:49] <mwe> takedown: back up important stuff and reinstall or be doomed
[02:49] <Ribs> Why not just set up a chroot?
[02:50] <Toma-> aggressor: looks for "gnome-art" in synaptic
[02:50] <Johnny0> Heya odat - thanks for all your help the other night
[02:50] <takedown> chroot sucks
[02:50] <gnomefreak> mwe, im sure there is a way but i dont know it and i would prolly stick with 64bit or reinstall ubuntu might be safer that way :(
[02:50] <odat> Johnny0, ???? with
[02:50] <aggressor> Thx
[02:50] <andrei> is there a way to know if my ISP blocks some ports ?
[02:50] <B[u] ZzY> what's better: kde or gnome??
[02:50] <Johnny0> with setting up mediaplayer for my WMA formats
[02:50] <gnomefreak> xfce
[02:51] <takedown> Ribs: did u know how fglrx drivers work on chroot?
[02:51] <odat> Johnny0, ohhh yea thats right no prob
[02:51] <Johnny0> lol
[02:51] <andrei> B[u] ZzY,  gnome is easier and nice looking
[02:51] <Johnny0> anyone in here use the radiomobile software under linux ?
[02:51] <odat> Johnny0, did i get you to switch you theme to nuvola?
[02:51] <ejofee> gnomefreak: thank you
[02:51] <gnomefreak> yw ejofee
[02:51] <anton_> anyone here know how to fix or add video resolutions?
[02:51] <Johnny0> no odat - you didn't
[02:52] <Toma-> B[u] ZzY: try them, both. form your own opinion :)
[02:52] <odat> Johnny0, ohhh kk i had a night of different themes and i realized i had the best one before i started so i'm promoting it lol
[02:52] <Johnny0> lol
[02:52] <B[u] ZzY> ok
[02:52] <takedown> mwe: so i dont want to reinstall :( if i cant downgrade to 32 with apt, i stay on 64...
[02:52] <thegladiator> my memory is up and running , i'd like to get back to gnome . how can I configure my gdm/kdm ?
[02:53] <odat> Johnny0, check it out   its called nuvola   its in synaptic
[02:53] <thegladiator> i'd like to remoe my kubuntu splash and
[02:53] <thegladiator> restore as usual
[02:53] <mwe> takedown: maybe you can. I doub't it can be done safely though
[02:53] <thegladiator> can nyone help me ?
[02:53] <mwe> takedown: hang around and wait for someone who might know how, if it really is possible
[02:54] <Toma-> thegladiator: you need to select GDM as your default display man?
[02:54] <thegladiator> yes Toma-
[02:54] <thegladiator> and not kubuntu, its splash is coming up
[02:54] <Toma-> thegladiator: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[02:55] <Toma-> thegladiator: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-usplash
[02:55] <Toma-> ahhhh
[02:55] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-usplash
[02:55] <Toma-> thegladiator: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[02:55] <anton_> hey guys, does anyone know how to install new resolutions? I tried editting xorg.conf but nothing is working still
[02:56] <Seveas> !fixres
[02:56] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:56] <odat> anton_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <Toma-> anton_: can you paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin plz?
[02:56] <fischi> hi i have a question.. is it possible to execute automatic a command in xchat in the beginning? like mode +x in quakenet
[02:56] <anton_> I'm actually there right now, but none of the solutions work
[02:56] <kitty_> hi...thank to everyone for directing me to the rite place..that got my drive full of music loaded on to the pc...yey S**T loads of music....the trouble now is.. i still absolutely zero playback... i have all the mp3 codecs ect.. but no sound what-so-ever will come from this pc.... i realy need this to work cos its not worked since i started and its all i realy wanted.. please, if someone can offewr some help i need it.
[02:56] <Toma-> fischi: yep
[02:56] <lowman62> foresight: I keep finding threads about the same problem but not one of them has successfully resolved the issue :(
[02:56] <andrei> vreun roman pe aici ?
[02:56] <thegladiator> brb let me restart and see
[02:57] <foresight> lowman62, so I could just lay down and die basicly ? ;p
[02:57] <Toma-> kitty_: are your volume levels up?
[02:57] <foresight> or find another distro ^^
[02:57] <fischi> Toma-, can u please explain it to me?
[02:57] <anton_> Toma: what is a pastebin?
[02:57] <lowman62> foresight: I would try the install again from scratch...if same prob...another distro like debian maybe LOL
[02:58] <Toma-> !pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:58] <B[u] ZzY> i have kubuntu: how do i switch to ubuntu?
[02:58] <odat> anton_, you have to restart after reconfiguring
[02:58] <foresight> lowman62, already reinstalled 3 times now...so I might as well try something else....Debian or Fedora ?
[02:58] <Toma-> fischi: you want it on connect to a server? or on startup of xchat?
[02:58] <kitty_> yeh.. ive tried all the simple stupind stuff. its gotta be software cos my card works fine and stuff and it shows as playing the music but nothin comes out.. (and yes ive tried the different audio sockets... but thats not to say i wont try again)
[02:58] <fischi> on connect to server
[02:58] <lowman62> foresight: try Debian ;)
[02:58] <odat> B[u] ZzY, i personally would go download ubuntu and reinstall to save space if you not gonna use kde stuff
[02:59] <foresight> lowman62, heh..k..thanks for the help anyway :)
[02:59] <odat> foresight, did you do what i said?
[02:59] <lowman62> foresight: sorry man! bums me out to that I cannot help you :(
[02:59] <foresight> odat, yeah...didnt work
[02:59] <foresight> was up to date
[03:00] <odat> foresight, sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <Toma-> fischi: open up Xchat > Server List > Highlight the server you want, then click Edit... > Then Input it into Connect Command. BUTTTTT, dont put a / in there.
[03:00] <odat> Johnny0, still there?
[03:00] <foresight> odat, got the message it was up to date, then tried startx again,...same problem
[03:00] <Toma-> anton_: pasted your xorg.conf yet?
[03:00] <odat> did you try to install it again or did you reinstall it?
[03:01] <B[u] ZzY> fischi: sei italiano?
[03:01] <lowman62> foresight: yw
[03:01] <foresight> odat, I've tried to reinstall the entire thing 3 times
[03:01] <fischi> Toma-, thx thats right but in really i want to execute two commands...and there is only one possible.. i read that i have to put other commands in a file ..but dunno how and where
[03:01] <takedown> odat: wrong line, need sudo apt-get install --resintall ubuntu-desktop
[03:01] <fischi> no sorry B[u] ZzY :)
[03:01] <odat> takedown, ahhh thanx man
[03:01] <takedown> s/resintall/reinstall
[03:02] <lowman62> foresight: one thing I did see discussed updating the bios...have updated your bios lately?
[03:02] <B[u] ZzY> ragazzi esiste un programma che mi mostra quali cartelle su linux sono piu grandi e quali piu piccole?
[03:02] <foresight> lowman62, not really..tho its a fairly new laptop
[03:02] <lowman62> although that still miffed me
[03:02] <odat> foresight, did you try to reconfigure you xserver?
[03:02] <foresight> odat, the xorg.conf file yeah
[03:02] <Toma-> fischi: you need to set the Connect Command to "LOAD -e /home/fischi/xchatcommands" and put those command in the file
[03:02] <foresight> but I dont see any problems in it
[03:03] <odat> foresight, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:03] <fischi> ok many tanks Toma-
[03:03] <foresight> odat, tried, didnt work :p
[03:03] <lowman62> foresight: what is your laptop...toshiba?? or??
[03:03] <foresight> lowman62, HP Pavilion
[03:03] <Toma-> np ;)
[03:03] <odat> did you get any errors when it was installing??
[03:03] <lowman62> foresight you are not try to dual boot are you?
[03:04] <foresight> lowman62, nope..pure ubuntu..
[03:04] <foresight> odat, no errors while installing...the errors came first when I tried to run X
[03:04] <takedown> foresight: what problem u have?
[03:04] <lowman62> foresight: let me check based on hp pavilion to see if there is something else that can be done...I hate giving up :P
[03:05] <foresight> takedown, "No symbols found" when i try to run x
[03:05] <odat> no one wants to give up because ubuntu is so bad ass
[03:05] <odat> lol
[03:05] <foresight> lowman62, thanks for trying :)
[03:05] <CarinArr> foresight, what sort of problem are you having?
[03:05] <takedown> foresight: can u past here error line?
[03:05] <CarinArr> heh
[03:06] <foresight> takedown; Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions7libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o" No symbols found
[03:06] <lowman62> foresight: is it a HP Pavilion 6630?
[03:06] <foresight> takedown, I get 4 of those
[03:06] <Johnny0> Anyone using wine / visual basic runtime - and a windows application ?
[03:06] <foresight> lowman62, no, 8162
[03:06] <a401> bb
[03:06] <lowman62> ok one sec
[03:07] <takedown> foresight: u have installed video dirvers?
[03:07] <_Otaku_> how can i see which displaydriver is currently used?
[03:07] <vega-> wonder how i'm supposed to report a bug on eclipse when the whole package is not even in the bug tracking system
[03:07] <foresight> takedown, the install found the ATI drivers automaticly
[03:07] <takedown> _Otaku_: glxinfo i think
[03:07] <a401_> hye
[03:07] <a401> hey
[03:07] <_Otaku_> thanks takedown
[03:07] <gnomefreak> vega-, for what ubuntu version?
[03:08] <a401_> thanks man
[03:08] <lowman62> foresight: I found someone with same laptop same prob...they had to turn plugnpray off in the bios and it installed flawlessy
[03:08] <a401_> it was a great pleisure for me
[03:08] <lowman62> might be worth a try
[03:09] <foresight> lowman62, so disable plug'n'play then reinstall ?
[03:09] <takedown> foresight: u configure xorg.conf for drivers?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> vega-, if you are on dapper and trying to install eclipse you can stop its not going to install :(
[03:09] <takedown> foresight: past fglrxinfo here plz
[03:09] <_jason> vega-, https://launchpad.net/malone
[03:09] <vega-> gnomefreak: breezy
[03:09] <lowman62> foresight: yes that resolved it for someone else...but I am still miffed myself by that ...what the heck try it *shrugs*
[03:09] <vega-> gnomefreak: i'm trying to get subclipse working
[03:09] <foresight> lowman62, do you have the link to that thread ?
[03:09] <_Otaku_> oh my.. a huge list comes up when i try glxinfo. where exactly can i see which driver is used :S i'm using an ati mobility radeon 9700
[03:10] <odat> foresight, its probably detecting the wrong graphics card i'm guessing
[03:10] <lowman62> foresight: oops! hold on let me see if I have it in my history
[03:10] <star07> hello...
[03:10] <lowman62> didn't think you were able to browse at the moment sorry
[03:10] <takedown> _Otaku_: if u have ati drivers use fglrxinfo
[03:11] <foresight> odat, as far as I can see from xorg.conf its the right one
[03:11] <_Otaku_> takedown: command not found :(
[03:11] <foresight> odat, and its loaded the right drivers from ATI
[03:11] <takedown> _Otaku_: or glxinfo|grep OpenGL
[03:11] <geone> # join ubuntu-ph
[03:11] <_Otaku_> who?
[03:12] <_Otaku_> ok i did that and it says something about mesa
[03:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I found a way to install eclipse...I will tell you about it in a minute
[03:12] <_Otaku_> is that good enough to play games later on?
[03:12] <_Otaku_> i want to get wine installed in the evening and test a few games ^^
[03:12] <gnomefreak> cool ty lowman62
[03:12] <_Otaku_> but i am afraid i need newer drivers
[03:13] <takedown> _Otaku_: if u need a 3D support install fglrx drivers
[03:13] <ccooke> _Otaku_: you need to use fglrx for ATI acceleration
[03:13] <_Otaku_> oh :(
[03:13] <aggressor> hey can some one help me
[03:13] <_Otaku_> how do i do that?
[03:13] <aggressor> ?
[03:14] <ccooke> _Otaku_: the mesa drivers aren't good enough for games - they're software only. No acceleration.
[03:14] <takedown> _Otaku_: u can use instruction for ati drivers on ubuntuforums.org
[03:14] <lowman62> foresight: I closed my browser and I have it set to dump my cache..but I searched it like this in www.google.com/linux using this search string "I am having problems installing ubuntu on my HP Pavilion laptop" was 3 pages in if I remember right
[03:14] <idris> hello
[03:14] <ccooke> !ATI
[03:14] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:14] <gnomefreak> aggressor, we dont know whats wrong :(
[03:14] <ccooke> _Otaku_: check the link ubotu just gave
[03:14] <_Otaku_> ccooke: takedown: alright thanks for the help :)
[03:14] <lowman62> brb phone
[03:14] <takedown> np
[03:14] <aggressor> i can\t change my menubar look
[03:14] <gnomefreak> hb lockhead
[03:14] <aggressor> if i install new theme
[03:15] <gnomefreak> lowman62,  even :(
[03:15] <aggressor> i only can change icons and bars
[03:15] <aggressor> but ni menu
[03:15] <foresight> lowman62, k, thanks..I'll go look :)
[03:16] <takedown> some1 know here how i can downgrade from 64 to 32 ubuntu with apt(without full reinstall 32 bit version)?
[03:16] <thegladiator> i have asked this before as well , how can I remove the preview of pdf files from nautilus ?
[03:16] <Ng> takedown: afaik that isn't possible
[03:16] <takedown> Ng: why not?
[03:16] <Seveas> takedown, because it's not two versions of the same thing
[03:16] <Ng> takedown: because they are different architectures and apt doesn't support migrating architecture.
[03:16] <Seveas> it's completely different
[03:17] <takedown> :(
[03:17] <takedown> ok
[03:17] <thegladiator> someone knows how I could remove the pdf preview feature ? from nautilus ? it looks bad
[03:17] <thegladiator> since many pdf files are of varying sizes
[03:17] <odat> foresight, you there?
[03:17] <Seveas> thegladiator, -EIMPOSSIBLE
[03:17] <foresight> odat, yeah
[03:17] <thegladiator> impossible ?
[03:18] <thegladiator> darn
[03:18] <thegladiator> so you guys coping with that ?
[03:18] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yt?
[03:18] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them?
[03:18] <Ng> Seveas: you could nuke the wickle evince tool that does it ;)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ok lowman62
[03:18] <Seveas> hehe
[03:18] <gnomefreak> wb btw
[03:18] <odat> foresight, did you actually do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   or did you just play around with xorg.conf   file
[03:18] <foresight> odat, I did the reconfigure
[03:19] <lowman62> gnomefreak: what I did was this...I installed the jdk into /opt then
[03:19] <odat> foresight, do it again and take dri off the list
[03:19] <thegladiator> thats really crazy :))
[03:19] <thegladiator> kde permitted me all such stufs
[03:19] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I put a line pointing to it in my path in my local .bashrc
[03:19] <foresight> odat, k..I'll try
[03:20] <gnomefreak> lowman62,  thats it? what about the mozilla depends?
[03:20] <lowman62> gnomefreak: after I finished installing eclipse I created a custom icon link with this line in it like this
[03:20] <thegladiator> kde konqueror  was like do anything , i am competing with windows explorer :) nautilus is no where near
[03:20] <Seveas> thegladiator, AH
[03:20] <Seveas> found it :)
[03:20] <lowman62> /opt/sun/jdk/bin/java -jar /opt/eclipse/startup.jar
[03:20] <thegladiator> wow temme
[03:21] <kitty_> hi again.. when i type  /etc/apt/sources.list: (with or without sudo) it ses  /etc/apt/sources.list:: command not found
[03:21] <kitty_>     . im pretty woried about that... what can i do
[03:21] <nadia007> morning everyone...  wondering if anyone has install vdr on their ubuntu using apt-get?
[03:21] <Seveas> thegladiator, in gconf-editor: /desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/application@pdf
[03:21] <gnomefreak> i can do that :))
[03:21] <Seveas> just unset 'enable'
[03:21] <MrManu> hello, is the acx111 driver in dapper still present? cant find it :/
[03:21] <Thorondor> kitty_: that is a file, you have to open with an editor. you can't execute it ;)
[03:21] <foresight> kitty_, CD to /etc/apt then pico or vim the file
[03:21] <wezzer-> hello, I found newest version of f-spot in debian site - is it good idea to install it to ubuntu?
[03:21] <Ng> nadia007: the vdr packages are pretty old, I ended up rebuilding the ones at http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.sid.html
[03:21] <wezzer-> it's .deb file
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ty lowman62 when im done with updates i will try it and let you know :) ty again
[03:22] <lowman62> now the mozilla thing ...just change the paths to mozilla in the configuration within eclipse...download the html versions of the help files and manually add them in the configuration...because none of that worked for me
[03:22] <_Otaku_> can someone help me a little in PM? i don't get the instructions on that page since my english is not that good
[03:22] <Ng> wezzer-: that's not a good idea, no
[03:22] <lowman62> but now it works flawlessly
[03:22] <aggressor> If I Cant Download Art Manager, That Means I can-t Change My Gnome ?
[03:22] <wezzer-> Ng: luckily I asked first :)
[03:22] <lowman62> ;)
[03:22] <Ng> wezzer-: generally it's not a good idea to mix binary packages from other distros. rebuilding the package from source is more likely to be ok though
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:22] <kitty_> sorry.. i dont understand......(simpletun)
[03:23] <thegladiator> Seveas, is that for dektop only or extends to nautilus ? shud I restart nautilus now ?
[03:23] <Toma-> aggressor: no, it just makes it trickier.
[03:23] <wezzer-> Ng: I have problems with newest f-spot, after compiling it, there is some strange error. Do you have any idea how to get newest f-spot to ubuntu?
[03:23] <nadia007> ng, how did you do that?  I see that packages at the site, can I use those?
[03:23] <thegladiator> killall -9 nautilus ?
[03:23] <lowman62> gnomefreak: let me know how it went ;)
[03:23] <wezzer-> Ng: It has been requested in backports already
[03:23] <gnomefreak> aggressor, no it doesnt mean that you can go right to the site and do it
[03:23] <gnomefreak> i will lowman62 it will prolly be tonight but ill let you know
[03:23] <Ng> nadia007: I doubt they'll work as-is, I downloaded the source packages and rebuilt them. It's not especially straightforward though, unfortuntaely
[03:23] <Seveas> I don't know whether it extends to nautilus
[03:23] <Toma-> whats the colour code for black? #000000?
[03:24] <thegladiator> Seveas, i just did that , bot no marking dif
[03:24] <Seveas> but a restart/or logout+login may help
[03:24] <thegladiator> yes toma
[03:24] <Toma-> rad.
[03:24] <lowman62> gnomefreak: cool! :)
[03:24] <thegladiator> Toma-, white =fffffff
[03:24] <Seveas> thegladiator, existing thumbnails aren't removed perhaps
[03:24] <Toma-> yeh i know that :D
[03:24] <thegladiator> ah
[03:24] <nadia007> ng, so you got the files from www.cadsoft.de/vdr
[03:24] <thegladiator> restartin XXX brb
[03:25] <B[u] ZzY> come visualizzo lo spazio libero su disco?
[03:25] <frans-th> hande/// where r u
[03:25] <fischi> Toma-, strange its not working the commands in the file without the "/"? but tryed both...and get no error message
[03:25] <MrManu> could someone please help me with my acx111 wlan crad on dapper? ^^
[03:25] <Ng> nadia007: no, I used the source debian packages from that youmustbejoking site and built them into .debs
[03:25] <kitty_> Ahh.. i understand now... its a file name not a comand... THANX
[03:25] <_Otaku_> how do i check if i have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[03:25] <Ng> _Otaku_: dpkg -l *restricted*
[03:26] <Ng> _Otaku_: lines that start "ii" are installed packages
[03:26] <Toma-> fischi: hmmm. well im not sure. thats what the xchat doc said
[03:26] <aggressor> gnomefreak- 2 i need 2 pay 2 get art manager ?
[03:26] <_Otaku_> Ng: thank you very much
[03:26] <Toma-> fischi: try asking in #xchat
[03:26] <fischi> ok thx :)
[03:26] <nadia007> ng, any suggestions on how I can go about doing the same thing?  A guide that you might of picked up on a site?  I'm not that good at this linux thing yet.. but I'm getting there!
[03:26] <foresight> odat, err...when I try to run the reconfigure now I just get the errormessage that the X server is disabled
[03:26] <probe45> aggressor, nope its free
[03:26] <gnomefreak> aggressor, no its free go to art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.org
[03:26] <aggressor> but than i need some plugins or what
[03:27] <aggressor> like
[03:27] <kitty_> Does anyone know why my source list wont let me paste into it... ??
[03:27] <probe45> aggressor,  no just install
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, did you open it with sudo?
[03:27] <Ng> nadia007: unfortuntely there isn't an easy guide for the way I did it (although I am thinking about writing one). There is a site that has a bunch of scripts that download from cadsoft.de and compile for you - I think the site is called VDR Hooch (try googling)
[03:27] <kitty_> no
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, that's why :)
[03:27] <Toma-> kitty_: you need sudo
[03:27] <kitty_> i coulndt remember how...
[03:27] <aggressor> lol, its difficult 2 install thing
[03:27] <aggressor> s
[03:27] <aggressor> im noob:D
[03:27] <thegladiator> Seveas, guess that was not it:(
[03:27] <Ng> I should really MOTU myself up and make some decent vdr packages for ubuntu, but I'm really short on time atm
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <probe45> aggressor, you could do it with synaptic (make sure you have backports in your apt)
[03:27] <Toma-> !ipod
[03:28] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[03:28] <thegladiator> i killed nautilus and restarted X
[03:28] <thegladiator> still its showing pdf preview!
[03:28] <kitty_> thanx.. is it possible to save a list of source codes in the terminal that i can access when i need them
[03:28] <_jason> thegladiator, maybe it just won't generate new ones, test that out
[03:28] <aggressor> probe45
[03:28] <thegladiator> ah yep _jason
[03:28] <probe45> aggressor, ?? if .deb just dpkg -i file.deb
[03:28] <probe45> aggressor, yes?
[03:28] <aggressor> can u tell me your msn
[03:28] <_jason> kitty_, not sure what you mean
[03:29] <Toma-> aggressor: read this....
[03:29] <Toma-> !info gnome-art
[03:29] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:29] <aggressor> !info gnome-art
[03:29] <aggressor> lol
[03:30] <Toma-> aggressor: see where it says "universe"??? it means you need to expand the amount of packages synaptic is looking at. you can enable universe by reading this...
[03:30] <Toma-> !universe
[03:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:30] <probe45> Toma-, tell him also how to setup univers in source.list because I think he doesn't undersatnd that ;)
[03:30] <probe45> lol beat me to itt :)
[03:30] <Toma-> ;)
[03:30] <kitty_> If im using my terminal.. Can i set a command, that would bring up a list of possible comands and what they do.. (i understand that i would have to create such a list my self) but is it possible cos theres a list of comands if you press esc a few times?
[03:30] <thegladiator> Seveas, did you get the desired effect or ?
[03:30] <nadia007> ng, vdr packages would be nice...  perhaps someday.  Meanwhile I think I will wrestle with this...  Gonna do some reading on hoochVDR site.  Thanks!
[03:30] <thegladiator> does it work only for fresh ones?
[03:31] <Toma-> kitty_: hit TAB 3 times
[03:31] <Ng> nadia007: no probs, hope it all works :)
[03:31] <aggressor> :S
[03:31] <aggressor> it closed
[03:31] <Toma-> kitty_: you dont need all 2000-3000 commands...
[03:31] <aggressor> :S
[03:31] <_jason> kitty_, you can type the beginning of a command and then press tab twice to show the possibilities.  I think your best bet is to have a web page open with the commands.  Once you sue them for a few days you won't need any list.
[03:31] <aggressor> !infognome
[03:31] <ubotu> aggressor: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:31] <Toma-> aggressor: what closed?
[03:32] <probe45> kitty_, first cap of a command + tab
[03:32] <_Otaku_> "Please enter the card's bus identifier" :S
[03:32] <probe45> his chat programm :P
[03:32] <aggressor> irc
[03:32] <Toma-> oic
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Toma-, thats one long script she would be writing for 3000 commands :(
[03:32] <Toma-> !universe
[03:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:32] <aggressor> im 2 stupyt for irc 2 :D
[03:32] <kitty_> cool... thats a big list.... ill do that then... nice
[03:32] <Toma-> kitty_: what are u trying to do?
[03:32] <probe45> lol I hope you have a fast computer kitty_
[03:32] <aggressor> ak
[03:33] <_jason> kitty_, you can take a look at the 'apropos' command (read 'man apropos'), but generally searching the web will give you better/clearer results.
[03:33] <lowman62> kitty_: you can also ask ... whatis <commandname> or better yet... man <commandname> and read the man pages on that command
[03:33] <gnomefreak> i like that tab trick :) hit y it jumps a page hit enter goes one by one :))
[03:33] <lowman62> gnomefreak: ya it pipes through more
[03:34] <gnomefreak> <<gonna spend all day playing with that now ty
[03:34] <lowman62> lol
[03:34] <probe45> lol
[03:34] <stjepan> hello
[03:34] <probe45> hi[
[03:34] <gnomefreak> :)