[15:45] <scrads> hi guys im having trouble installing off of a live cd. first time was really slow, next time it nearly finished but crashed. did the same again but sooner, on retry
[16:00] <superm1> scrads, do you have a crash report or logs or anything?
[16:04] <scrads> the only thing i visibly get is "installation has crashed" i have read that you need root access to install, does the live cd give this automaticly.
[16:04] <scrads> sorry if im asking obvioys questions, im complely new to linux
[16:11] <superm1> scrads, the live cd is supposed to be pretty straightforward, no special access or anything
[16:12] <superm1> so to debug, do this: once you get to the first page of installation where it gives you an option to try or install, choose "try"
[16:12] <superm1> then you can invoke the installer from the desktop that comes up
[16:12] <superm1> when it crashes, you just need to right click the desktop and choose "Terminal" and type "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" (no quotes) and it will file a bug for you
[16:14] <scrads> cheers i'll give that a go later then.
[16:16] <scrads> as an aside. ive loaded the cd image on my removeable hdd. can i run the install off that, using livecd to boot into desktop. I can see the files but dont know which/how to run it


[10:16] <vibhav> !locoteams
[10:16] <ubot4`> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[10:17] <vibhav> The Leader Of the Indian LoCo Team is not active , the team was invited to be an approved team , BUt because of him , the team is not approved , can anything be done?
[10:21] <YoBoY> vibhav: he's not responding to emails ? the first step is always to ask him to step down and choose another leader
[10:22] <vibhav> YoBoY: I just did that
[10:24] <vibhav> HE has an @ubuntu.com email address , but his membership has expired
[10:25] <YoBoY> @ubuntu.com are just aliases, you don't have his true email ?
[10:26] <vibhav> All other email address are also aliases
[10:26] <vibhav> Even www.ubuntu-in.org is a non functional website
[10:29] <YoBoY> vibhav: are we talking about this locoteam http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team ?
[10:29] <vibhav> yes YoBoY
[10:30] <YoBoY> this team have more than one contact
[10:31] <vibhav> They all too are inactive
[10:31] <vibhav> https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-approved
[10:31] <vibhav> Look at latest invited
[10:36] <YoBoY> vibhav: ok, try to contact every loco contacts of this team, you can found a list here : http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team if after sometime (more than one week) nobody have responded to your questions, come back here
[10:37] <vibhav> thanks YoBoY
[10:45] <czajkowski> salut
[10:46] <vibhav> hi
[10:53] <YoBoY> hi czajkowski, how are you ?
[10:53] <bkerensa> hi YoBoY
[10:54] <YoBoY> hi bkerensa, fine ? :)
[10:54] <czajkowski> YoBoY:  good thanks, how are things your end these days? you going to fosdem?
[10:54] <bkerensa> YoBoY: Good good... Tired... Its 3am waiting on IRCC meeting
[10:56] <YoBoY> czajkowski: things are going slowly, and I'm sick (a cold) since the 1st january ^^". I'm not going to fosdem no, not really attracted to this event :p
[10:57] <YoBoY> but some french members are goind, and they will help for the booth :)
[10:59] <kinouchou> hello
[11:00] <YoBoY> kinouchou is going to fosdem for example :) she's in charge
[11:01] <YoBoY> d'ailleurs kinouchou je dois te donner les CD officiels que j'ai en trop
[11:01] <kinouchou> tu veux que j'en fasse quoi?
[11:01] <YoBoY> pour le fosdem
[11:01] <kinouchou> on amèrea cd, stickers et badges pour le fosdem*
[11:01] <czajkowski> YoBoY: great
[11:02] <kinouchou> je suis en train tu sais
[11:02] <czajkowski> I love FOSDEM been going now for 4 years
[11:02] <kinouchou> czajkowski: I love fosdem too
[11:04] <bkerensa> we have a french guy who idles in our channel :) I asked if he was apart of the France LoCo but apparently not
[11:06] <kinouchou> bkerensa: what is his name?
[11:07] <bkerensa> I cant remember but I said hello once and he responded in french so we had someone join who spoke french and he told her he likes to idle and learn about Ubuntu
[11:07] <bkerensa> I thin jhmextern maybe
[11:07] <bkerensa> I will see next time his .fr hostname joins :)
[11:09] <kinouchou> ok
[19:32] <bkerensa> Do we know how many LoCo teams there are in the world both approved and unapproved?
[19:34] <paultag> bkerensa: sorry, what?
[19:34] <paultag> if you're unapproved, that means (just in terms) that you're not in the approved set
[19:34] <nigelb> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[19:35] <nigelb> you can catched the approved ones here. unapproved ones are harder.
[19:35] <paultag> you can be a part of both teams on LP
[19:35] <paultag> but by being in approved, you're approved
[19:41] <cprofitt> hello all
[19:42] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, hi bro
[19:42] <cprofitt> hey SergioMeneses
[19:43] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, UbuntuUserDay
[19:43] <cprofitt> what about them SergioMeneses ?
[19:44] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu
[19:44] <SergioMeneses> don't worry
[19:45] <cprofitt> no worries
[19:52] <akgraner> hey paultag how's life these days - haven't talked to you in ages
[19:53] <akgraner> cprofitt, do you have 5-10 mis for a call? Nothing serious just a heads up for ya :-)
[19:54] <akgraner> cprofitt, or skype if that's easier?
[20:05] <cprofitt> akgraner: sure
[20:05] <bkerensa> :)
[20:06] <paultag> akgraner: howdy doodie!
[20:06] <paultag> akgraner: dude, outstaning
[20:06] <paultag> akgraner: started a new job, I'm loving it like crazy
[20:06] <paultag> doing some of the best work of my life
[20:07] <paultag> akgraner: and I've got a weding to run to today (not mine)
[20:07] <paultag> akgraner: how's you?
[20:07] <akgraner> NICE :-)
[20:07] <akgraner> great
[20:07] <paultag> http://sunlightfoundation.com/ ps :)
[20:07] <paultag> they sponsor ubuntu dc events
[20:08]  * akgraner looks
[20:08] <paultag> https://github.com/sunlightlabs/ :)
[21:52] <cjohnston> howdy
[22:49] <mhall119> good evening
[22:50] <nigelb> Hey mhall119
[22:50] <mhall119> hey nigelb


[08:44] <daffy951> Have run into a problem booting. Getting a white screen with a flashing dot. Unable to see any grub output (holding shift during boot also goes to white screen). Tried boot-repair with auto mode, results in same white screen. Problem started when trying to get 5.3.0-23 working (got kernel panic, VFS: Unable to mount root fs), updating initramfs.. Getting out of ideas how to attack the problem.. Any ideas how to figure out whats causing the problem?
[10:52] <gnrp> daffy951: This white screen is already Linux, or still grub?
[10:53] <daffy951> I can't tell. I would guess grub, but not sure. It's the only thing I see after bios stuff
[10:59] <daffy951> ..But the time it takes for it to pop up indicates it might be around the time for the normal login screen to show
[11:02] <daffy951> This is how it looks: https://youtu.be/qfVln6HK5b4
[11:02] <daffy951> (lunch here, bbl)
[11:04] <gnrp> daffy951: Cannot be played, private video
[11:04] <gnrp> ah, ok, then you are past grub
[11:05] <gnrp> did you try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[11:14] <daffy951> ctrl+alt+f1 no response
[11:18] <daffy951> think the video should work now (never used youtube before)
[11:31] <daffy951> managed to get into grub now by constantly hitting shift during boot instead of holding it
[11:32] <daffy951> and could boot 5.3.0-19 without problems
[11:42] <daffy951> so the question now turned to.. What's wrong with 5.3.0-23 in my computer?
[13:08] <gnrp> daffy951: Can you check the logs from the previous boot?
[13:08] <gnrp> did the system actually freeze or was it e.g. reacting to magic sysrq?
[13:32] <daffy951> I didn't get any response from it, don't know about "magic sysrq"
[13:33] <daffy951> Is the previous boot log available by default somewhere?
[23:51] <FoxBook> So, currently using a liveUSB of 18.04.3 i386 in a panasonic toughbook CF-18
[23:52] <FoxBook> things seem to mostly be working, except fot the touch screen
[23:53] <FoxBook> Is there a calibration procedure for it, as it is only correct at a single point- and as you move from that point, it scales incorrectly


[00:14] <doctormo> hey duanedesign
[00:42] <doctormo> Got a test suite for dbus event signals in python, Mwhahaha, now I can take over the world!
[00:44] <doctormo> Amendment: this was quite tricky, you should see the includes for the base module: os, sys, threading, subprocess, signal, atexit, gobject, time and logging. heh all the cool kids modules.
[00:52] <duanedesign> hey doctormo !
[00:53] <duanedesign> i started playing around with designing some stuff.
[00:54] <doctormo> duanedesign: oh? want to show it to me?
[00:54] <duanedesign> let me see, i think i have somme here
[00:58] <duanedesign> doctormo: here is one. http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/peopleAll-small.jpg
[00:59] <doctormo> duanedesign: I like it, I think you need to increase the brightness and contrast between the orange and purple elements, and make the text stronger somehow.
[01:00] <doctormo> also, jpeg is a bad format for any design/production, it's lossy compression will give you nasty artifacts with printing and transmition.
[01:20] <duanedesign> doctormo: /5
[01:20] <duanedesign> oops P
[02:21] <JanC> doctormo: your description of JPEG makes me think about Google's new fantastic unique space-saving "we can make files smaller by losing quality" WebP format...  ;)
[02:21] <doctormo> JanC: It's not that bad!
[03:02] <doctormo> http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/24290476#/d2zsebq
[03:11] <JanC> doctormo: that reminds me, I have to see when Sintel will be ready  ;)
[03:12] <doctormo> JanC: yesterday
[03:12] <JanC> oh, so I can expect a DVD soon...  :-)
[03:13] <JanC> I actually saw a peview at Libre Graphics Meeting
[03:13] <JanC> preview
[03:14] <JanC> hm, I get errors when trying to access their site  :P
[03:15] <JanC> so I saw part of it before the official première, including some of the problems they had, errors they made, how they work, etc.
[03:16] <JanC> that was really interesting to see
[03:16] <JanC> I wonder if they will free the recording that was made of that talk now
[03:26] <doctormo> JanC: Did the news not reacht he planet?
[03:26] <JanC> I don't read the planet every day  ;)
[03:27] <JanC> actually, there are so many news sources in open source that I don't know what to read first anymore  ;)
[08:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:40] <nigelb> morning
[10:13] <vish> doctormo: hey, any news on that ip ban ? or is that something i should be resolving at my end? seems like yours is the only site i might not have access to.. :(
[10:14] <nigelb> vish: did you wait for like 1 minute?
[10:14] <vish> heh, but i do read your blog via liferea! ;p
[10:14] <nigelb> it took some time to load up
[10:14] <vish> nigelb: yea, no luck here..
[10:14] <nigelb> ugh
[11:58] <nigelb> jussi: Its so beautiful!
[11:59] <jussi> :D
[11:59] <nigelb> Interesting suit though
[12:00] <nigelb> strangely it reminded me of dracula cartoons :p
[12:00]  * nigelb runs.  Fast.
[12:01] <nigelb> jussi: the ones were you both stand on rocks => who chose that setting?
[12:02] <nigelb> That made me think like you were in the sky :)
[12:11] <jussi> nigelb: the photographer suggested and we approved.
[12:26] <nigelb> jussi: It was a very good idea :)
[12:59] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:00] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[13:11] <Pendulum> hiya
[13:12] <nigelb> hey :)
[13:38] <akgraner> Woo Hoo - it's the weekend :-)
[13:38] <nigelb> gosh, its saturday evening already
[13:39] <akgraner> nigelb, :-)
[13:40] <akgraner> I am acknowledging west coast time today so I get 3 more hours of weekend :-)
[13:41] <nigelb> you're on the west coast?
[13:41] <akgraner> nope
[13:41] <akgraner> that is just the time zone I am executing today with
[13:41] <nigelb> but your body probably thinks it is :p
[13:41] <nigelb> aah :)
[13:47] <AlanBell> I would love to do the xkcd 28 hour day thing
[13:47] <nigelb> I tried.  Painful.
[14:35] <vish> popey: in UK english its "Open Trash" and "Empty Trash" …
[14:35] <vish> maybe 'the' british need to many 'the'  ;p
[14:36] <vish> err! in US english
[14:36] <vish> too...
[14:36]  * vish sleeps!
[14:36] <nigelb> its too early
[14:38] <vish> yea, just a short nap :D
[14:39] <nigelb> hah
[15:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: ping, around?
[15:27] <nigelb> AlanBell: who runs the bot that publishes the rss feeds from ubuntu-uk planet in the #ubuntu-uk channel?
[15:34] <AlanBell> daviey I think
[15:34] <AlanBell> popey would know for sure
[15:35] <nigelb> popey: ^^
[15:36] <nigelb> AlanBell: I realized that cia bot for bzr can only do client side, so if you want to do actual server side, you neeed rss feed from launchpad
[15:36] <nigelb> planning on writing something for that to use in #pollka :)
[16:46] <AlanBell> is bug 585940 assigned to the right person?
[16:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 585940 in ubuntu-website-content "Text reads "not recommended" for 64-bit (affects: 74) (heat: 367)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585940
[16:49] <AlanBell> actually it looks like it is Gerry's thing
[16:53] <popey> AlanBell / nigelb yes, daviey set it up
[18:55] <nigelb> popey: ok! thanks, I'll talk to Daviey :)
[20:41] <sense> good evening
[20:43] <duanedesign> hey there sense
[20:43] <sense> hi duanedesign
[20:49] <duanedesign> sense: up to anything interesting this evening?
[20:50] <sense> duanedesign: Not much, I'm recovering from today's hard work in preparation of our move to Dokkum.
[20:50] <sense> :)
[20:53] <sense> duanedesign: What about you?
[21:25] <duanedesign> sense: been doing skthches for a webdte I am going to make
[21:25] <sense> duanedesign: Is it going good?
[21:28] <duanedesign> sense: i think so
[21:28] <sense> good
[21:28] <duanedesign> sense: i am using a CSS Framework
[21:28] <sense> duanedesign: How does such a thing work?
[21:29] <duanedesign> this my first time to use one. I am using the 960 grid system
[21:30]  * AlanBell would like to burn 960gs and all that use it
[21:31] <AlanBell> such an insanely bad idea
[21:31] <nigelb> fluid is way better
[21:32] <AlanBell> yup
[21:32] <duanedesign> AlanBell: why is that
[21:32] <nigelb> people who tend to be desingers love 960
[21:32] <AlanBell> *I* choose how wide I want my browser
[21:32] <nigelb> +1
[21:32] <AlanBell> which could be quite narrow, sitting alongside other windows
[21:33] <doctormo> AlanBell: No, your browser width is my choice, remember when you sold me that right?
[21:33] <AlanBell> or it could be the full width of my 2048 wide monitor
[21:33] <AlanBell> and I could be randomly choosing bigger or smaller text sizes
[21:36] <AlanBell> I have been picking apart the web team's wordpress theme to fluidise it
[21:36] <AlanBell> http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/
[21:37] <AlanBell> now fluid, it works fine
[21:37] <nigelb> ok, bed time.  Later all.
[21:37] <AlanBell> bye nigelb
[21:41]  * popey hugs AlanBell
[21:42] <AlanBell> http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/09/29/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org/ same thing with a fixed width right sidebar
[21:49] <popey> we need to give you the new uupc logo :)
[21:49] <popey> i dont think we'll put it on the uupc site until next season though
[21:49] <popey> so probably best to leave it as is for now
[21:49] <popey> would be lovely to revamp both sites at once :D
[21:50]  * popey drops a massive hint to AlanBell
[21:51] <AlanBell> :)
[22:05] <AlanBell> that is probably something to discuss over beer popey
[22:12] <popey> yes!
[22:14] <vish> popey: from nautilus menu File » Create Folder / Create Document is what i have here,  what is it in UK english..  ?
[22:15] <vish> popey: iirc, gnome HIG specifies against excessive use of "the" … i need to find the line..
[22:16] <popey> probably written by americans
[22:16] <vish> hehe!
[22:16] <vish> pcutler? isnt british?
[22:16] <vish> oh wait it was Calum, irsh or living in ireland..
[22:17] <vish> popey: well if it is "create the document" then its consistent, else it brings in a new inconsistency ;)
[22:17] <vish> and more bugs \0/
[22:20] <popey> hmm
[22:21] <AlanBell> it would be "create a document"
[22:21] <AlanBell> and create a folder
[22:21] <vish> heh yea
[22:21] <AlanBell> and connect to a server for that matter
[23:00] <popey> :( vish
[23:01] <vish> popey: hehe, that was just a joke ;)
[23:02] <popey> didnt come across that way
[23:02] <vish> popey: oops! :(
[23:02] <popey> where is the specific section in that very long document about 'the'?
[23:03] <popey> searching for the word 'the' isnt fruitful or efficient
[23:03] <vish> adjectives use
[23:04] <popey> specifically?
[23:04] <vish> there is a section about it and mentions to not overuse it.. also » http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en
[23:05] <popey> yes, I'm trying to find the section you mention, can you quote it?
[23:05] <popey> so I can find it
[23:06] <vish> Use adjectives with caution. If an adjective is necessary to differentiate between items, then use adjectives. In all cases, test whether the phrase can stand alone without the adjective.
[23:07] <AlanBell> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/grammar.html.en
[23:07] <AlanBell> "the" is not an adjective
[23:08]  * czajkowski is having flash backs to her junior cert English
[23:08] <vish> grr!
[23:08]  * vish bad at grammar :D
[23:10] <czajkowski> vish: tis fine, just sometimes as it's not your 1st language you may be too literal
[23:11] <AlanBell> the rules on the definite article "the" don't appear to apply to this context as it is not at the beginning of the string
[23:11] <vish> czajkowski: heh, actually i was good at it at one point :) , but lost touch recently :(
[23:12] <AlanBell> and we should always remember that software does not want to be anthropomorhisised
[23:13] <vish> well, sometimes they can be adjectives? http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/adjectives.htm
[23:16] <popey> it really does feel like the grammatical rules of one nation are being used to dictate what other nations/locales/languages do
[23:16] <popey> which is frustrating
[23:16] <AlanBell> I think that is wrong
[23:17]  * AlanBell is cautious of grammar rules found on .edu websites
[23:17]  * popey blames webster for much of this
[23:17] <AlanBell> the article isn't part of the adjective
[23:18] <AlanBell> in the colourful paragraph with the pink and blue they didn't highlight the articles
[23:18] <vish> gah! articles!
[23:19] <popey> especially when people outside the UK and who are _not_ US citizens or US educated dictate the policy in the UK!
[23:19]  * popey says "bah" once more and goes to bed
[23:19] <AlanBell> From The Oxford Dictionary of American Usage and Styleby Bryan Garner. Copyright 1995 by Bryan A. Garner. Published by Oxford University Press, Inc., www.oup-usa.org, and used with the gracious consent of Oxford University Press.
[23:20] <AlanBell> so there is a dictionary from Oxford to tell Americans how to get it wrong!
[23:22] <AlanBell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjective interestingly wikipedia talks about articles used as adjectives


[00:00] <mrcognitive_> sevis , when you have the chance before leaving . i would like to ask one last question , please ?
[00:00] <alid> Sevis: It doesn't have any configs with respect to volume for me.
[00:01] <Sevis> Mrcognitive_: I may not be going for another hour or two - feel free to ask whenever :)
[00:01] <mrcognitive_> sweet !
[00:01] <Sevis> Alid: Scroll down ;)
[00:02] <Sevis> Alid: Hmm... Dunno, actually. Let me see a little more.
[00:03] <mrcognitive_> i think this question maybe very simple . i have currently found wireshark in my programs and added it . i think i am using a wifi considering i am connected to linksys and all .when i try to do a capture of packets it asks for a specific capture comand but when i go to the capture comands there are no options .
[00:03] <alid> Sevis: Aha! I found it in in System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts.
[00:04] <Sevis> Alid: Aha, hopes that fixes it :)
[00:04] <Sevis> Mrcognitive: I've never used wireshark, nor ever tried to capture packets.
[00:05] <alid> Sevis: Yeah, exactly! I changed the shortcuts to Master, and it fixed all the problems! Thank you very much! :-*
[00:05] <mrcognitive_> same here , i am trying out all the programs to get a better feel for this new OS . just wanted to know what it could do
[00:07] <Sevis> Erm... It could capture packets.
[00:08] <Sevis> Basically, when you contact the internet, you send packets of information. That program seems to be used to get those packets and display them.
[00:09] <Sevis> There's quite many uses, but most are pretty malicious.
[00:12] <Sevis> Can't say much more, really - only ones I can come up with on the spot are bugtracking and password stealing.
[00:12] <mrcognitive_> no , no , no . i am not trying to do anything that hasty
[00:13] <Sevis> Personally, unless I had a strong need for it, I wouldn't delve into all that stuff.
[00:14] <mrcognitive_> alright , at the moment i have like no internet security . i have done research and have come across that ubuntu needs no firewalls do to the fact of how it operates
[00:15] <Sevis> No-no, that's very wrong.
[00:15] <oobe> yay kde 4.3 is out and it installed real easy with no bugs and no hitches
[00:15] <mrcognitive_> really ?
[00:15] <Fanfare> mrcognitive_: linux is just like any other OS . it needs a human that thinks about security...
[00:16] <Sevis> Ubuntu needs no anti-virus, due to the lack of risk of infection.
[00:16] <Sevis> However, staying without a firewall may not be a great idea. Are you behind a router?
[00:16] <mrcognitive_> not on this computer , i use it for school and ect
[00:17] <Sevis> A router generally has a built-in firewall.
[00:17] <humha> Ola moçada hello everyon
[00:18] <Sevis> Sorry, no, that's sorta wrong - but, in any case, a router will make a firewall (mostly) unnecessary.
[00:18] <mrcognitive_> well , ubuntu has firestarter i know but is it any good . and how come some tech dude told me having a firewall with this system was pointless ?
[00:19] <Sevis> Hullo, Humha
[00:19] <Sevis> Mrcognitive_, there are some risks of absolutely no firewall. Less than with a Windows machine, but in the end, ddos is ddos.
[00:20] <mrcognitive_> sevis , you how windows has certain commands such as ipconfig ...ect...ect why do they not work in ubuntu ?
[00:21] <Sevis> Mrcognitive_, because Ubuntu is a principally different system.
[00:21] <mrcognitive_> i am trying access my list of drives but i can not figure out how to do so
[00:21] <Sevis> Errr... List of drives. Very good question.
[00:21] <Sevis> One second, checking if I remember correctly.
[00:21] <humha> Algum usuario no Portugues,
[00:21] <Fanfare> mrcognitive_: its ifconfig in linux
[00:22] <Sevis> mrcognitive_: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[00:22] <mrcognitive_> thanks , fanfare
[00:22] <richie_> Hi, can anyone tell me how to remove things from the Dolphin "Open With >" contextual menu? Thank you!
[00:22] <Sevis> And yes, it is indeed ifconfig, but it's not quite the same.
[00:22] <mrcognitive_> thanks sevis
[00:24] <humha> Não estou conseguindo rodaar filmes em dvd. Que faço?
[00:25] <Sevis> Humha, I'm pretty sure this channel is English-only. Please ask questions in English.
[00:25] <Fanfare> richie_: u mean the list of apps to open a file with?
[00:26] <mrcognitive_> sevis , is warcraft capable of running on , ubuntu ?
[00:26] <humha> Ok. Thank you.
[00:26] <Sevis> mrcognitive_: Which Warcraft?
[00:26] <mrcognitive_> 3 and wow ?
[00:27] <richie_> I do, fanfare, yeah. I installed some stuff through wine, and now it keeps wanting to open my Python scripts with notepad... No thanks!
[00:27] <Fanfare> mrcognitive_: i used to run WOW via wine months ago...
[00:27] <Sevis> One second.
[00:27] <richie_> mrcognitive_: I still run WoW now - and get much better FPS on Ubuntu
[00:27] <Sevis> Warcraft 3: TFT is gold.
[00:28] <mrcognitive_> <<<<< noob with computers , sevis .
[00:28] <Fanfare> richie_: hm, rightklick file select propertys, click on the tiny icon right to Typ:
[00:28] <Sevis> So is WoW.
[00:29] <Sevis> Mrcognitive_: You need to 'sudo apt-get install wine', then run winecfg, then you have a chance of getting it to run.
[00:29] <richie_> Fanfare, I could kiss you.  But I won't coz I smell. Thank you!
[00:29] <mrcognitive_> i have wine already installed , thats why i asked you the question about imvu before
[00:30] <pascal_> hey :)
[00:30] <Sevis> Never heard of IMVU, sorry. I think WoWWiki has a tutorial for installing WoW on Wine.
[00:30] <Sevis> Greets, Pascal_
[00:30] <pascal_> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers  < which of this cards would you recommend ? :)
[00:31] <pascal_> usb or pcmcia :D
[00:32] <mrcognitive_> sevis for wine , what resolution are you using ?
[00:33] <Sevis> mrcognitive_: I'm not running WoW under wine at the moment. At the moment, my old motherboard died, so I'm on my netbook.
[00:33] <Sevis> (and never ran under wine, always used XP for it)
[00:33] <mrcognitive_> my problem with wine is that when i am using a game that is mainly windows based , it does not show the picture
[00:33] <Sevis> pascal_ looking
[00:33] <richie_> mrcognitive_: IIRC the best way to install WoW is either from CD/Setup file (use wine setup.exe or whatever) or if you can access your windows partition, you can just use 'wine WoW.exe' or 'wine launcher.exe' i think it is
[00:34] <mrcognitive_> see , i had xp home but i reset my cpu and lost it so i switched to ubuntu
[00:35] <richie_> not a problem, mrcognitive_, you can install and patch exactly like you did on windows! if you put the CD in, it might even autorun the same as XP!
[00:35] <mrcognitive_> you mean the factory disk ?
[00:36] <Sevis> mrcognitive_: Wouldn't advise confusing CPU and computer. What you reset was your hard drive :)
[00:36] <richie_> OK, next question... I love Kate (the text editor, obviously) but she annoys me by opening every file in a new session! How do I make it so that files I double click appear in my already existing Kat session?
[00:37] <mrcognitive_> yeah .... i tried to eliminate some un needed programs and bombed the whole computer clean
[00:37] <richie_> Yeah, the factory disk - all 5 or one DVD
[00:38] <mrcognitive_> dont have it ..... is it possible to download my home version without it ?
[00:38] <Sevis> Richie_: Kate -> Configure Kate -> Sessions -> Behaviour on Application Startup -> Load Last-used session?
[00:38] <mrcognitive_> when i bought the cpu while back everything was as is
[00:39] <richie_> Nope, still opens a new session :(
[00:40] <Sevis> O.o
[00:40] <Sevis> Sorry, Richie_, can't really help you then.
[00:41] <richie_> No probs, Sevis, I'm trawling the documentation. I've just had an idea...
[00:41] <Sevis> Ah, wait a sec, just realised.
[00:41] <Sevis> Open with the -u option
[00:42] <Sevis> Right click -> Open with -> Other -> 'kate -u' -> remember settings.
[00:45] <richie_> Nice one, thank you! We're halfway there now, though, since it opens in the same window, but pops up an error message "KDEInit could not launch /usr/bin/kate"
[00:47] <Sevis> Works fine for me from terminal O.o Test that?
[00:50] <richie_> Yup, works fine from the terminal for me, too - it's just through Dolphin (Man, I hate dolphin. First moving stuff to trash takes a week and/or fails, now this!)
[00:50] <amason_> richie_: moving to trash in 4.3 is quick
[00:51] <amason_> richie_: also you don't have to use dolphin
[00:51] <amason_> you can still use konq
[00:51] <Sevis> Richie_: Check the run in terminal thing?
[00:51] <richie_> Sevis: I checked, works fine from there
[00:52] <Sevis> Rechie_: I mean in the Run As -> Other check the "run in terminal" option?
[00:52] <richie_> amason_: How can I check what version KDE version I'm on?
[00:53] <Sevis> Richie: 'kde4-config -v'
[00:55] <richie_> When I try run in terminal and go to open the second file, I get "KDEInit could not launch konsole"! 0.o indeed...
[00:55] <Sevis> O.o
[00:55] <Sevis> Erm....
[00:55] <Sevis> Are you sure you've not got some very serious issues with KDEInit?
[00:56] <richie_> I'm on KDE 4.2.2... can I apt-get an upgrade and see if that fixes all of my dolphin related issues?
[00:56] <richie_> And I might have, how do you fix KDEInit?
[00:57] <Sevis> No idea.
[00:58] <amason_> richie_: sounds like something has hosed on your system.
[00:58] <richie_> Ha haa! No worries, Sevis, I appreciate your help anyway!
[00:58] <Sevis> Indeed. Richie_, you're very welcome, but I advise you do a very full checkup.
[00:58] <richie_> Ok... let's play a little game. What would you do if you were me?
[00:59] <Sevis> Things with init failing, even just KDEInit, generally end bad.
[00:59] <richie_> Bugger
[00:59] <Sevis> Erm. First of all, I'd probably reboot.
[00:59] <richie_> See, even reboot doesn't work sometimes...
[00:59] <amason_> Sevis: can just drop back run levels
[00:59] <Sevis> If that succeeds, you at least know you can reboot.
[01:00] <Sevis> If it doesn't, it generally yells the problem in your face.
[01:00] <richie_> it hangs after I click the "Restart" button
[01:00] <Sevis> (and then fails to the end)
[01:00] <Sevis> Erm....  That can be fixed I suppose - will try that during the reboot
[01:04] <_gtt_> i really love X11 forwarding... so I'd just use my windows box to open konversation.
[01:04] <Sevis> Hopefully, it'll all work...
[01:04] <Sevis> Hehe, _gtt_, we're talking about if his box dies.
[01:04] <iamherman> is it worth all the effort to get mIRC for Ubuntu?
[01:05] <Sevis> Iamherman: No... Probably not.
[01:05] <wangyuan> how can I reboot my GUI?
[01:06] <Sevis> Ctrl+Alt+backspace
[01:06] <Sevis> If that fails, first 'sudo dontzap -e'
[01:06] <Sevis> sorry, -d
[01:07] <iamherman> but I'm using Konversation (and I just deleted xChat) and neither is very good. ... for example, If I /list channels I can't cancel it so I'm forced to wait forever or close the program.. hoping mIRC is more user friendly
[01:08] <richie> OK, so... given that i just shutdown 3 times quicker that when I use KDE buttons, my KDEInit seems to be borked, and all the other weird stuff that keeps happening I have come to a conclusion
[01:09] <richie> KDE hates me and I should go back to blackbox
[01:10] <oem> richie i proof blackbox and i prefer fluxbox
[01:10] <Sevis> You can generally reinstall a linux system keeping it on :) I remember when I accidentally did 'sudo apt-get purge linux* -y'...
[01:10] <oem> but, is difficult put all as kde
[01:10] <Sevis> You could reinstall KDE. Can't really think of a more subtle way to fix  this. Google first.
[01:10] <richie> Suppose I get a nice new version that way, yoo
[01:11] <amason_> you can just remove the kde packages
[01:11] <oem> how is possible install kde 3 on kde 4
[01:11] <oem> ??
[01:11] <amason_> oem: what do you mean kde3 on kde4 ?
[01:11] <Sevis> You need a special repositry.
[01:11] <iamherman> can someone ping me
[01:11] <Sevis> iamherman... Why? O.o
[01:11] <oem> i install intrepid, but i want put kde3
[01:12] <Sevis> You're automatically pinging the IRC server.
[01:12] <Sevis> OEM, there's a repositry set up somewhere.
[01:12] <oem> well, i seek it, thanks
[01:15] <richie> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[01:15] <richie> anyone want to recommend i don't do that?
[01:16] <Sevis> Erm.
[01:16] <Sevis> I recommend you get out of X before you do that.
[01:17] <richie_2> that would be a good start...
[01:17] <Sevis> Oh, and personally, I'd halt kdm, too.
[01:18] <Sevis> that's 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[01:19] <richie_2> OK, done and done
[01:19] <Sevis> Well...  Is it going to wipe ~
[01:22] <Sevis> No, shouldn't.
[01:22] <richie_2> Then I'll not cry
[01:23] <Sevis> Personally, I keep all my data on a separate disk, then use binds to get them into ~/
[01:23] <richie_2> binds? like ln -s?
[01:24] <Sevis> No, in fstab
[01:24] <richie_2> Ah, ok
[01:25] <richie_2> That's clever!
[01:26] <Sevis> Hehe, thanks. It's a little more transparent than links.
[01:28] <richie_2> now, if i do this reinstall will i get the same version? or should i --purge remove then install?
[01:28] <oem> what's is  the dsl navigator
[01:29] <Sevis> Errr... Could be a config error.
[01:29] <Sevis> If you don't midn losing your config, go ahead and purge.
[01:29] <Sevis> Oem - no idea, sorry.
[01:29] <richie_2> Cool, lets see how this goes...
[01:30]  * Sevis gives a nervous chuckle.
[01:32] <richie_2> yeah, so i dont think it was kubuntu-desktop i should have purged; 49.2kB disk space freed
[01:32] <Sevis> Errr... One second.
[01:33] <richie_2> kde-desktop
[01:33] <richie_2> that's going next
[01:33] <richie_2> this is fun
[01:33] <richie_2> it's like spring cleaning
[01:34] <oem> kde3-desktop
[01:34] <Sevis> Erm, Richie_2, I know that purging one thing after another is good.
[01:34] <Sevis> No, Oem, kde3-desktop is obsolete
[01:34] <Sevis> But please don't do things like 'sudo apt-get purge kde* -y'
[01:34] <Sevis> Actually, that would pretty much clear off what's left of kde...
[01:35] <richie_2> you do realise that's like saying please don't walk on the grass, or please don't think about a big pink elephant
[01:36] <richie_2> Why not go for it? Worst case scenario, I wake up tomorrow wishing I had backed up more frequently (or ever)
[01:36] <pikohn> can someone tell me how to get xbmc to display in full screen when you have two monitors?
[01:36] <Sevis> How many physical hard drives do you have?
[01:36] <Sevis> pikohn - dunno, sorry.
[01:36] <pikohn> okay
[01:36] <richie_2> 2 in this box, 3 laptops, one 180Gb portable... and a 30Gb MP3 player :)
[01:37] <Sevis> Throw everything except your system somewhere.
[01:37] <richie_2> Huh?
[01:37] <richie_2> Like, out of the window?
[01:38] <Sevis> Like... To a hard drive.
[01:38] <Sevis> Then disconnecting that (while the computer is off, of course).
[01:39] <Sevis> Generally, making sure that the only thing you have on the machine is the system itself.
[01:40] <kub1> How do I quickly get all/most of the documentation files for KDE aps installed?
[01:40] <richie_2> probably have enough space on the spare in here... if i can find it in terminal!
[01:40] <Sevis> man man
[01:42] <Novice> Accidently deleted system tray how do I get it back?
[01:43] <Sevis> Novice, sorry, I was sure you had fixed that.
[01:43] <Novice> nope
[01:43] <Watson516> does anyone here use dual monitors with kubuntu?
[01:43] <Sevis> Have you done 'mkdir ~/Desktop/test'
[01:43] <Novice> Sevis: just took a break
[01:43] <Sevis> ?
[01:44] <Sevis> Heh, no problem, I'm willing to go on.
[01:44] <Sevis> Watson516 - yes, but it runs without a problem.
[01:45] <Watson516> Sevis: ok, any ideas how I would go about extending mine instead of mirror?
[01:45] <Sevis> Watson516 - oh, wait, sorry, it doesn't run perfectly, just realised :\ Indeed, shows the same thing on both monitors?
[01:46] <Watson516> Sevis: yea, it works just fine on Ubuntu but I can't seem to get it working on Kubuntu
[01:46] <Novice> Sevis: what exactly does that do?
[01:46] <Sevis> Watson516: Yep, I've been trying to fix that... No idea, sorry.
[01:47] <Sevis> Novice: That makes a file on your desktop called "test"
[01:47] <Sevis> folder*
[01:47] <Novice> Sevis: what does it test?
[01:47] <Sevis> That's just the name :)
[01:49] <Sevis> Does it show up on your desktop?
[01:49] <Novice> Sevis: how do i get to terminal again?
[01:50] <Sevis> ctrl+alt+f1
[01:50] <Sevis> Ctrl+Alt+F7 gets you back to X.
[01:50]  * richie_2 is waving goodbye to lots of things... just waiting for "Removing girlfriend... Removing life..."
[01:50] <richie_2> GONE!
[01:51] <richie_2> now, which package do I need to install? kde4?
[01:52] <Sevis> Errr...
[01:52] <Sevis> Ah!
[01:52] <Novice> Sevis: ok did that and it put test folder on desktop
[01:53] <Sevis> Richie_2 try kdebase
[01:53] <richie_2> Note to self... autoremove after purge kde* was not a good thing.
[01:53] <Sevis> Ouch, Richie... Ouch.
[01:53] <Sevis> Novice...
[01:53] <richie_2> yeah, lots of pretty things disappeared
[01:53] <Novice> Sevis: yes
[01:54] <Sevis> Let me check a few more settings, please.
[01:54] <Novice> Sevis: have test folder on desktop now
[01:54] <Novice> Sevis: kk
[01:54] <Sevis> Ah! Novice, I know!
[01:55] <Sevis> Desktop Settings -> Desktop Activity -> Type: Desktop
[01:56] <richie_2> Still installed 4.2.2... boooo
[01:56] <Sevis> Then right-click and unlock widgets.
[01:56] <Sevis> Richie, of course O.o
[01:56] <Sevis> 4.2.2 is fine.
[01:56] <Sevis> Your KDEInit seemed to have been slowly dying.
[01:56] <Novice> Sevis: how do i get to desktop settings
[01:56] <richie_2> Aren't we all
[01:57] <Sevis> Right-click, then, sorry, Appearance Settings.
[01:57] <Sevis> I'm perfectly fine.
[01:57] <Sevis> Just need to get more tea every time my cup runs out.
[01:59] <richie_2> OK, so I tried startx, which gave me blackbox. startkde gave me "not installed, get kdebase-workspace-bin". I did, tried startkde again, and now? $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server
[01:59] <richie_2> sigh
[01:59] <Sevis> Did you turn KDM back on?
[01:59] <richie_2> ah ha, 2 secs
[02:00] <richie_2> kdm not installed. will just get it
[02:00] <Novice> Sevis: have something called appearence but not appearance settings?
[02:01] <Sevis> Novice - try that, what does it show?
[02:01] <richie_2> KDM is back, aaaaand...
[02:01] <Sevis> I predict it won't work.
[02:02] <Novice> Sevis: nothing called desktop activity
[02:02] <richie_2> you predict wrong!
[02:03] <richie_2> Not only worked BUT... my awesome boston bruins wallpaper is still there!
[02:03] <Sevis> Oh? Sweet O.o
[02:03] <Sevis> Novice...  Just options in the drop-down menu.
[02:06] <Novice> Sevis: is no appearance settings
[02:06] <Sevis> I have kubuntu 9.04, KDE 4.2.2
[02:06] <Novice> Sevis: there is system settings/appearance
[02:06] <Novice> Sevis: yes that exactly what i have
[02:07] <Sevis> You don't need to be in System Settings
[02:07] <Sevis> Just go to your desktop, please.
[02:07] <Novice> Sevis: lol thats all i have is a desktop
[02:09] <Sevis> Ehm, let me see, please...
[02:09] <jp1> hello, could someone help me get my sound working?
[02:09] <jp1> hp dv6500t
[02:10] <Sevis> Drat. I think I've been quite a fool.
[02:10] <Novice> jp1: sound on the internet or system sounds not working?
[02:10] <trapa> hello i speack french
[02:10] <jp1> system sounds not working.
[02:10] <trapa> some one speck french here?
[02:10] <jp1> It is alsa problem I'm sure..I just can't get it fixed
[02:10] <rafael> !fr | trapa
[02:11] <Sevis> Erm. Okay, 'killall plasma' isn't what I'm supposed to do.
[02:11] <trapa> thank you
[02:11] <Sevis> Novice: What happens when you press alt+F2?
[02:12] <Novice> jp1: do you hear kubuntu when system boots?>
[02:12] <Novice> Sevis: nothing
[02:12] <jp1> I used to, now since I used the "fix" I found on google I get nothing.
[02:13] <jp1> I did have limited sound, basically just the kubuntu sound, now there is nothing.
[02:14] <Sevis> Novice, care to repeat what options you have when you right-click again?
[02:15] <jp1> I used an alsa_1 and alsa_2 scripts...those didn't work. So I installed alsa 1.0.19 from ppa repository
[02:18] <jp1> is this the right place to ask about this?
[02:18] <Sevis> Yes, sorry Jp1, I'll try to solve your problem asap.
[02:18] <Novice> Sevis: create new/paste clipboard contents/icons/ refresh desktop/apperance settings and folder view settings
[02:19] <jp1> Thank you.
[02:19]  * Sevis points at Appearance Settings
[02:20] <DrScience> quick question: How to get audio working on Acer Aspire 5315 LT?
[02:21] <Sevis> Press that, please, Novice
[02:21] <Sevis> DrScience, welcome to #kubuntu. Thank you for submitting your query, you shall be helped as soon as possible.
[02:21] <DrScience> thank you guys!
[02:22] <Novice> Sevis: OK
[02:23] <Sevis> Do you now see Desktop Activity, with the drop-down set to FOlder View? Change that to "Desktop", please.
[02:23] <Novice> Sevis: OK
[02:23] <Sevis> Done?
[02:23] <Novice> Sevis: YES
[02:24] <Sevis> Then Apply and Ok, then right-click on your desktop.
[02:24] <Novice> Sevis: dang your genious
[02:25] <Novice> Sevis: thnx so much i knew it had to be something simple
[02:26] <Sevis> Not a problem.
[02:26] <Sevis> Jp1, your problem, please? :)
[02:26] <jp1> I can't get my sound driver working
[02:27] <Sevis> ALSA?
[02:27] <jp1> Yes
[02:27] <DrScience> I am also waiting for help on my sound for Acer Aspire 5315
[02:27] <jp1> It had limited functionality until I used some guides from google. now I get nothing
[02:27] <Sevis> DrScience - Jp1 has been waiting for a while. I suggest you read up, though, it may work for both of you.
[02:28] <DrScience> ok...thanx
[02:29] <jp1> I have installed version 1.0.19
[02:29] <Sevis> Well, my experience with alsa is that it needs a tonne of packages, and then it suddenly works.
[02:30] <Sevis> This seems to be an automated test: 'wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh'
[02:30] <jp1> I also added this to the end of alsa-base.conf
[02:30] <jp1> options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[02:31] <jp1> running it now.
[02:31] <Sevis> Latest stable release is 1.0.20
[02:31] <jp1> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=075548e5ccbdc8153f5316a2022256e49e49f7af
[02:32] <Sevis> jp1 - what does 'esd' return?
[02:32] <jp1> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
[02:32] <jp1> I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges.
[02:32] <jp1> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
[02:32] <Sevis> Aha.
[02:32] <Sevis> Well.
[02:32] <Sevis> You have a soundcard installed, I can see that.
[02:33] <Sevis> However, it doesn't look like it's being recognised.
[02:34] <Sevis> This seems to be a long-fixed issue...
[02:34] <jp1> It was recognizing it before..but sound wasn't working then either. I think it showed as a??286
[02:34] <jp1> or a??268
[02:34] <Sevis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4871189&postcount=30
[02:34] <Sevis> Errr... You had some sound?
[02:35] <jp1> it was just the kubuntu log in sound..nothing else worked..now however I have nothing.
[02:35] <Sevis> Even just that was quite a bit.
[02:35] <Sevis> I suggest you rollback, then test what exactly fails.
[02:35] <Sevis> As far as I remember, the log in sound is a .wav
[02:36] <jp1> How can I rollback?
[02:36] <jp1> I used an alsa script to update.
[02:36] <Sevis> It may very well be you had codec and pulseaudio problems, and you were simply fixing the wrong thing.
[02:36] <Sevis> Hm... One second.
[02:37] <Sevis> A simple purge of alsa, and then a reinstall could do the trick.
[02:37] <Sevis> 'sudo apt-get purge alsa && sudo apt-get install alsa'
[02:37] <Sevis> Not quite certain, though.
[02:37] <Sevis> Be right back...
[02:38] <jp1> ok, I'm purging it now.
[02:41] <Sevis> Okay, back, please tell me the result once it's done.
[02:42] <jp1> It has finished and I also followed the directions from the link you posted. So I have added the patched drivers and the line in alsa-base.conf
[02:43] <jp1> No change as of yet..not sure if I need a reboot or something though.
[02:43] <Sevis> (just a note - I'm eating dinner as we talk, so may be slow to answer)
[02:43] <Sevis> Yeah, go ahead and reboot, please.
[02:43] <jp1> ok, thanks. I'll be right back.
[02:46] <jp1> Hello again.
[02:46] <Sevis> Greetings
[02:47] <Sevis> Working any better now?
[02:47] <jp1> It still isn't working. It looks the same.
[02:47] <jp1> HDA Intel is gray
[02:47] <jp1> Pulseaudio shows up, but no sound when I test.
[02:47] <Sevis> Er... Please try without that extra instruction I posted.
[02:47] <Sevis> Seeing as it's pretty old, it could very well be included by default.
[02:48] <jp1> so just purge and reinstall?
[02:48] <jp1> ALC 268 Analog is the card info also..
[02:48] <Sevis> Yeah. Sorry for not mentioning to not do that instruction last time.
[02:49] <Sevis> It's pretty clearly a config problem, I would say, so I'm hoping it'll autodetect.
[02:49] <jp1> It is only purging alsa-base...is that OK?
[02:49] <Sevis> Err... Probably?
[02:50] <jp1> Ok, should I reboot again?
[02:50] <Sevis> Is a good idea, yes.
[02:51] <jp1> BRB
[02:51] <nositelicense> if you are to reboot systray will ...
[02:52] <nositelicense> bah!
[02:52] <Sevis> Hm? You mean that just restarting X would be enough?
[02:52] <Sevis> Perhaps, likely enough.
[02:52] <nositelicense> dunno I did not hear anything other than restart
[02:53] <Sevis> Alsa config issues.
[02:53] <nositelicense> should not require a restart
[02:54] <jp1> Ok, it still seems to be the same.
[02:54] <Sevis> Ehm. O.o
[02:54] <jp1> It keeps asking to remove HDA Intel on reboot.
[02:54] <nositelicense> ha
[02:54] <Sevis> I'm going to go keep reading up on it. I don't quite see what the problem could be, if it autodetected on first install.
[02:55] <Sevis> Quick summary of the situation - Jp1 installed Kubuntu, sound worked minimally, he did something to alsa, it stopped working completely.
[02:55] <jp1> The HDA Intel was functional after first install..since I ran the alsa scripts though it has been non functional.
[02:56] <jp1> I used a script that was meant to update to the latest version I believe.
[02:56] <nositelicense> use sysnaptic to completely remove reboot reinstall  :/
[02:56] <jp1> scripts found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4298894&postcount=24
[02:57] <Sevis> Yeah, maybe an extra reboot between purging and installing would do it... Hm
[02:58]  * nositelicense shugs
[02:59] <jp1> trying to find all packages to remove.
[02:59] <Sevis> 'sudo apt-get purge alsa*'
[02:59] <Sevis> Use at very much your own risk.
[03:00] <jp1> E: Couldn't find package alsa-info.sh
[03:01] <Sevis> O.o
[03:01] <Sevis> Ah!
[03:01] <Sevis> Of course.
[03:01] <Sevis> rm ./alsa-info.sh first
[03:02] <jp1> removing 415mb...hopefully this will help.
[03:02] <jp1> I think it might be removing kde though, now that I look at it.
[03:02] <nositelicense> it should
[03:03] <Sevis> Erm.
[03:03] <Sevis> No...
[03:03] <Sevis> Hm,
[03:03]  * Sevis reminds himself that -s is to be used.
[03:03] <jp1> too late...can I fix it?
[03:04] <jp1> sudo apt-get install kde...475mb
[03:04] <Sevis> "Note, selecting kernel-internals-guide for regex 'alsa*'"
[03:04] <jp1> more than got removed..lol
[03:04] <Sevis> This is just one line of what my simulation showed.
[03:05] <Sevis> Erm.
[03:05] <Sevis> Ctrl+C.
[03:05] <jp1> That isn't doing anything. Do it in konsole?
[03:06] <Guest56144> hello!
[03:06] <pikohn> anyone know if vdpau is enabled automatically
[03:06] <Sevis> Errr... Where did you type the command I gave you?
[03:06] <jp1> konsole
[03:07] <jp1> it has already long since completed though.
[03:07] <jp1> kde is half way reinstalled now.
[03:07] <Sevis> Erm.
[03:07] <Sevis> Jp1, save your data.
[03:08] <jp1> It's a new install anyway...no big deal.
[03:08] <brandon_> cannot get firefox to work on jaunty any advice?
[03:08] <jp1> I suppose worse case is I have to reinstall.
[03:09] <Sevis> JP1, sorry, but that seems to be quite likely. It can often be easier than fixing up a mess.
[03:09] <jp1> Ok, well if this doesn't work I will just reinstall. Thanks for the help.
[03:10] <jp1> I might be back to try and get it from the limited functionality I get on install to actually working properly though.
[03:10] <Sevis> Did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:11] <jp1> I did apt-get install kde
[03:11] <GSF1200S> using a laptop as a router/tether to a desktop is such a pain
[03:11] <jp1> I'm guessing I didn't do restricted-extras on initial install if that is what you mean.
[03:11] <GSF1200S> is there any easy tools for sharing a connection? because shorewall/iptables/dnsmasq/ipmasq is kicking my ***
[03:12] <Sevis> That's the problem, then, Jp1 - without that, you can't play MP3s.
[03:12] <jp1> I'm going to try  quick reboot. Thanks. I'll install that package as well.
[03:13] <pikohn> anyone know if vdpau is enabled automatically??
[03:13] <hackerx> anyone know how to activate blue tooth in kde?
[03:28] <thehacker> hi
[03:28] <thehacker> merhaba lan salaklar duymuyormusunuz
[03:31] <WebbB> i installed ubuntu gnome and then add'd kde4 onjn top of it  but when im running in kde  and i open system monnitor  it says im running gnome 2.26
[03:31] <WebbB> shouldnt it say kde4 not gnome
[03:32] <Sevis> Does it look like gnome, or KDE?
[03:32] <WebbB> kde i picked kde in sessions but in system monitor it says gnome
[03:33] <WebbB> under kernal linux it says gnome
[03:34] <WebbB> oh  i think i figured it out  i had opened the gnome system monitor  thats why it said gnome
[03:34] <oobe> lol
[03:34] <WebbB> i didnt think it would matter
[03:35] <WebbB> i was starting to wonder because when i install gnome then kde on top i always wondered if gnome was still running in the background
[03:39] <WebbB> whats a good theme manager for kde4
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> WebbB- no, Gnome isn't running in the background. KDE can run GTK programs (Gnome can run KDE programs too)
[03:53] <crweb> WebbB: at the end of the day when looking at the big picture, both are actually x11 applications.
[03:54] <WebbB> good point
[03:54] <crweb> though, one's toolkit rocks my world a little more than the other ;)
[03:56] <WebbB> in the appearence window  whats the differance between folder view and desktop
[03:56] <crweb> WebbB: one of them actually displays the contents of a folder on the desktop like a classic desktop
[03:57] <crweb> WebbB: the other doesn't.  both will let you make other folder view widgets
[03:57] <WebbB> thanks
[04:00] <ipwnu> join #linhes
[04:05] <WebbB> i keep getting this everyonce and a while anyone have a idea why
[04:05] <WebbB> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[04:33] <asobi> where do i find the xchat folder?
[04:34] <wuzei> find -iname *xchat* /
[04:34] <wuzei> asobi: find -iname *xchat* /
[04:34] <asobi> from konsole?
[04:44] <oobe> asobi, ~/.xchat2
[04:46] <asobi> yea, found it in home
[05:07] <zorael_> Are dead keys working for anyone in Jaunty? Alternatively Jaunty + 4.3. (like ^´`¨~)
[05:09] <amason_> is knetworkmanager in karmic allowing people to connect to WPA2 networks ?
[05:18] <corinth> How do I get Kopete to spill long items like url links onto a new line instead of adding a vertical scroll bar?
[05:38] <jp1> Hello
[05:38] <jp1> I was here earlier having sound problems. Is anyone available to help?
[05:42] <iloveyou> jp1: did you unmute things and install that package, etc?
[05:42] <jp1> yes
[05:42] <jp1> I have limited sound now.
[05:43] <jp1> Nothing in games/video/etc.. but kde has some sounds.
[05:43] <iloveyou> jp1: I fixed my sound problems by rearranging things in system settings > multimedia > audio output
[05:44] <jp1> rearranging how?
[05:44] <iloveyou> jp1: I suspect it may be to do with kde trying to use one backend, games/video trying to use another, and the backends trying to compete over exclusive access to the sound card. But I'm not really sure.
[05:45] <jp1> PulseAudio does not work for me..it falls back on HDA Intel
[05:46] <iloveyou> jp1: did you install the required packages for pulseaudio? or try restarting?
[05:47] <jp1> It looks to be installed..let me check.
[05:48] <jp1> apparently it wasn't. rebooting now.
[05:57] <dhuv> hello all
[05:57] <dhuv> I was wondering if anyone is aware of the problem in Digikam where the thumbnails do not show, (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/305332)
[05:57] <dhuv> if anyone knows of a workaround
[06:55] <nacho__> how do i kill compiz? i dont know how does it apear at ps aux
[07:23] <chal`away> how can i make my computer's screen saver not go dark so quickly? ubuntu 9.04
[07:53] <jeka_> Всем привет! :)
[07:54] <jeka_> Я второй день юзаю Linux...хочу новый KDE поставить
[07:55] <jeka_> есть только одна прблема - сеть неработает =( ADSL не могу настроить
[07:59] <jeka_> согласен. сейчу через Ubuntu выхожу в сеть и обновы качаю для KDE. вообщ много лет отдал Windows, но Linux оказался куда более стабильным и дружелюбным. тока жалко что игры под него проблематично запустить. Но дерекс вроде поставил.
[07:59] <chal`away> hi jeka_ (i speak english)
[08:00] <jeka_> 50 на 50 % =)
[08:03] <jeka_> hi ChaosR - yes 50% ))
[08:04] <yoga> I want to install the kde 4.3, How the relase say to do a full upgrade, how?
[08:06] <jeka_> yoga_It is necessary to add repezatoree the new.
[08:06] <Mamarok> yoga: see the topic :)
[08:06] <jeka_> "yoga" - deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:06] <jeka_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:07] <Mamarok> and don't forget to add the gpg key for the PPA repository
[08:07] <jeka_> =)) http://kde.ru/content/kde-43-dostupen-dlya-polzovatelei-kubuntu
[08:08] <jeka_> and http://kde.org/download/#v4.3
[08:09] <yoga> jeka_: after I add there repository, what is the command to do the full upgrade?
[08:09] <Mamarok> jeka_: please keep it english here, also the links :)
[08:10] <Mamarok> yoga: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[08:10] <Mamarok> yoga but you need to update first
[08:10] <jeka_> Mamarok http://kde.org/download/#v4.3
[08:10] <Mamarok> jeka_: no need to give it to me, I wrote the topic :)
[08:11] <jeka_> Mamarok aaaa )))
[08:11] <Mamarok> jeka_: you do know that there is a channel for russian, do you?
[08:12] <Mamarok> as this channel is for English only
[08:13] <Letharion> I installed kubuntu-desktop. I log out, get a kdm prompt instead of gdm, I log in, and I get back to kdm. Nothing that looks like an error in Xorg logs. I get back in by running startx from cli, gets me into gnome. Not sure how to proceed.
[08:13] <jeka_> Mamarok Yes I know :)
[08:14] <Mamarok> ok :)
[08:14] <Mamarok> Letharion: did you install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[08:14] <Letharion> Yes
[08:15] <Mamarok> and did you use KDE previously on that computer?
[08:15] <Letharion> No
[08:15] <Mamarok> hm, try erasing ~/.kde/ and try again
[08:15] <Letharion> (Yes, but not with this install)
[08:15] <Letharion> try again as in "log in again", or "install again"
[08:16] <jeka_> Mamarok ==> Я из Казахстана :)
[08:16] <Mamarok> Letharion: and running startx from cli will open Gnome because it is set to default
[08:16] <Mamarok> jeka_: English, please! I will not say it again!
[08:16] <jeka_> Mamarok ==>I from Kazakhstan:)
[08:16] <Mamarok> jeka_: also, this is a support channel only, for discussions there is #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <Letharion> Mamarok: I'm glad it does, or I'd be stuck without a GUI
[08:17] <Mamarok> Letharion: once you are in kdm, you need to change the session you want to start (one of the buttons at the bottom)
[08:18] <Letharion> To?
[08:18] <Mamarok> well, to KDE if you want KDE :)
[08:18] <Letharion> Oh, I would assume that it was, coming from kdm. I'll try in a minute.
[08:20] <jeka_> Mamarok ==>I have understood already =) If the network there earns from ASDL - I from will write there, for now only Ubuntu. The modem at me "ZyXEL Prestige 600 series".
[08:20] <Mamarok> jeka_: was that a question?
[08:21] <Letharion> For the record, it worked :) Maybe it was just that I hadn't selected a session in the first place?
[08:22] <Mamarok> Letharion: exactly, as your default session was not set yet :)
[08:22] <Mamarok> or set to Gnome
[08:22] <Mamarok> Letharion: for KDE 4.3 see the topic
[08:22] <Mamarok> as kubuntu comes with 4.2.2 by default
[08:23] <Letharion> Doh. Might be nice of kdm to let me know that, instead of kicking me back to login with 0 information.
[08:23] <Mamarok> Letharion: indeed
[08:23] <jeka_> Mamarok ==> It was my problem :( Ubuntu the network has defined, and I have simply created ADSL connection. In Kubuntu - the network is not defined.
[08:23] <Letharion> Mamarok: U use 4.3? I found 4.2.4 less bugged at my other computer (Not kubuntu)
[08:23] <Mamarok> Letharion: but you are the first to mention it here AFAIK
[08:24] <Mamarok> Letharion: yes, it has been released about a week ago and is really good!
[08:24] <Letharion> Oh well.
[08:24] <Letharion> Mamarok: I think it looks pretty, with the new plasma theme, but I started having graphic glitches. Might wait a month for a 4.3.1 :)
[08:25] <Mamarok> Letharion: did you already install it? If you only just installed the kubuntu-desktop you have 4.2.2
[08:26] <Letharion> If I have a java-packaging question, which channel would be appropriate?
[08:26] <Mamarok> and 4.3 is far less bugged than 4.2.x
[08:26] <Letharion> Mamarok: I did on another (non-ubuntu) computer
[08:26] <jeka_> Letharion ==> Yes in general the remarkable interface! "Vista" even nearby did not stand!
[08:26] <Letharion> jeka: Yeah; i like it :)
[08:26] <Mamarok> Letharion: I don't know, maybe #java? or is it a packaging problem in Ubuntu?
[08:27] <Mamarok> !motu | Letharion
[08:28] <jeka_> Letharion And I about that!:)) even the girl remains aside. (Joke):)
[08:28] <Mamarok> that would be the packaging introduction for Ubuntu (and its derivatives)
[08:28] <Letharion> Not so much a problem as a question. I have installed a certain package but still don't find the library that I expect to show up
[08:28] <Mamarok> guys, pleas, discussion goes to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is support only here
[08:28] <Mamarok> jeka_: I already told you previously
[08:28] <Mamarok> please*
[08:29] <Letharion> Mamarok: Thanks, I'll have a look
[08:29] <Mamarok> Letharion: did you check with aptitude search libraryname?
[08:30] <Letharion> Not until now that you asked me. No answer. in-casesensitivity option?
[08:30] <Mamarok> no
[08:31] <Mamarok> else google for the library, it should tell you where it is
[08:31] <Mamarok> what library is it?
[08:32] <Letharion> libmysql-java
[08:32] <jeka_> Mamarok ==> I already have understood it also to you have explained, even named a problem in Kubuntu, instead of in Ubuntu. =) Has written on английски that in принцепи it is not difficult for me.)) I something to you disturb???? P.S: the novice user.
[08:32] <Mamarok> Letharion: try sudo apt-get install libmysql-java :)
[08:34] <Letharion> Mamarok: Yeah, I have installed it with synaptic, and apt-get agrees that it's installed, but the java-program I'm trying to run can't seem to find it.
[08:34] <Mamarok> jeka_: the problem is that it makes it difficult to distinguish support related lines from discussion, sometimes there is a lot going on here, so there is no room for discussion
[08:34] <Mamarok> Letharion: both installed with apt-get?
[08:34] <Mamarok> Letharion: could be a path problem
[08:34] <Letharion> Mamarok: No, one is my own :)
[08:34] <Mamarok> well, then check your PATH settings :)
[08:34] <Letharion> Mamarok: Could definitely be
[08:35] <rsync> hi, how I can enable kdm remote control?
[08:35] <Mamarok> rsync: I don't know, sorry
[08:36] <Mamarok> a remote control for KDM?
[08:36] <Mamarok> or accessing the desktop remotely?
[08:36] <Letharion> rsync: Elaborate on what you want to do. There's NX-server which allows graphic login through kdm
[08:39] <rsync> Mamarok: yes, if we're seeing login window we could choose another with ip-address. but, I seems it disabled on my host and I can't communicate with neighbor pc
[08:40] <Jack8899> I Want to encrypt my System. I already tried the whole precedure on a virtual machine and ther alternate CD. But because I have two harddisks the cryptsetup at boot wants me to twice put in the password. Is there a way to only use one pw for both disks?
[08:40] <jeka_> Here somebody on русски understands? I apologise in advance.
[08:41] <Mamarok> jeka_: you should ask in a russian speaking channel:
[08:41] <rsync> Letharion: ok, if it's allowed, it must be customized somewhere
[08:41] <Mamarok> !ru | jeka_
[08:41] <Mamarok> I don't understand what you mean, sorry
[08:42] <jeka_> =(
[08:42] <Letharion> rsync: Not sure I get it, sorry
[08:42] <Letharion> rsync: Or rather, I'm quite sure I don't get it.
[08:43] <Letharion> Are my "other partitions" automounted somewhere? Or how can I otherwise list them? I tried fdisk -l, which didn't return anything.
[08:43] <rsync> Letharion: switch user-> start new session -> menu -> remote login put here the ip addres
[08:46] <Letharion1> rsync: I had a "secure remote connection" option, but I'm not sure how it works.
[08:46] <Letharion1> Except the obvious that remote login must be enabled on the remote side
[08:47] <rsync> Letharion1: where its?
[08:48] <Letharion> rsync: Well, I'd assume that you need the sshd running, other than that, I'm not sure. X is normally executed as root, which makes it quite sensitive to allow remote login to it.
[08:51] <matt2154> Can anyone tell me where to find the "URW Bookman L" font file?  It appears in OOo and Inkscape.
[08:51] <rsync> Letharion: no, it use xdmcp protocol so as to communicate
[08:54] <Letharion> So what you want is to run a X client on one machine, and connect to an X server on another?
[08:54] <Letharion> The only way I've done that is with an NX-server.
[08:54] <rsync> yes via kdm
[08:56] <raphink> there's at least 3 ways to do what you're trying to do
[08:56] <raphink> well more
[08:56] <raphink> XDMCP is one
[08:56] <raphink> not encrypted, very heavy on the network, but easy to use (just use remote login in KDM)
[08:57] <raphink> NX/nomachine is another one, much faster, encrypted through SSH (optionally), but harder to set up
[08:57] <raphink> you can also use ssh with the -X flag which exports the X session (provided the server conf allows it)
[08:57] <raphink> and then launch your programs in the console, and they will be exported localy
[08:57] <raphink> localy
[08:57] <raphink> locally
[08:57] <raphink> it's even slower than using XDMCP, but it's very easy to use, and it's secured through SSH
[08:58] <Letharion> How can I list all partitions on my computer?
[08:58] <raphink> Letharion: mount
[08:58] <raphink> Letharion: or df -h if you want usage info
[08:58] <rsync> but easy to use - yes
[08:58] <raphink> and then there's VNC
[08:58] <raphink> slower than NX, less secure, and not easier to configure ;)
[08:58] <rsync> I want to use it xdmcp, because I want touse it not too much
[08:58] <Letharion> raphink: I'm trying to find the device-name of an un-mounted part so I can mount it
[08:59] <raphink> Letharion: df
[08:59] <raphink> oooh
[08:59] <raphink> an un-mounted part sorry
[08:59] <raphink> Letharion: look for it in /etc/fstab
[08:59] <rsync> I know about any other vnc and so on, but want use it
[08:59] <rsync> where enable it?
[09:00] <raphink> you have to install a vnc server
[09:00] <Letharion> raphink: Not there either. How come I can't list with "fdisk -l"
[09:00] <raphink> but honestly, setting up NX is not harder and it's much better
[09:00] <raphink> Letharion: wait, what do you want exactly?
[09:01] <rsync> I want not istalling anymore
[09:01] <Letharion> raphink: I want a list of all harddrives, partitions, and preferably their filesystems, so I can mount a part from my other linux install and copy files-
[09:01] <rsync> because i want use it into my home net
[09:02] <raphink> Letharion: you can see a list of all partitions in /proc/partitions
[09:02] <raphink> cat /proc/partitions
[09:02] <raphink> Letharion: for fdisk -l, you need to be root
[09:02] <raphink> so
[09:02] <raphink> sudo fdisk -l
[09:02] <raphink> rsync: I don't understand
[09:02] <Letharion> raphink: Doh, ofc, it was that easy. sudo made it work as I wanted.
[09:03] <raphink> sudo make me a sandwich
[09:04] <rsync> [Xdmcp]
[09:04] <rsync> Enable=enable
[09:05] <rsync> but still not work
[09:05] <Letharion> I manually installed a package that wasn't found with apt. How do I add it to the path so I don't need to provide full path
[09:19] <yoga`> What are the development packages for kde4? I tried to compile kchmviewer, but missing a file.
[09:32] <alfons> hi there anyone
[09:40] <mulder_> Hello All.
[09:42] <Guest30233> I click on Software Updates in KPackageKit to update, but an error message comes up saying: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) - not sure what this is. Please help a newcomer.
[10:44] <giellamo> Hi All
[10:45] <Guest61818> how are you doing this morning?
[11:12] <richie> Hello. Anyone know how to restore KDE file associations to their defaults? I broke them :(
[11:13] <Mamarok> richie: how did you do that?
[11:13] <Mamarok> you can't have broken all of them
[11:15] <richie> 'Accidently' installed the windows version of Python through wine, and know anything that's a text file (.txt, .ini, .py, .html etc) thinks it's a Python file. It's playing havok with kwrite/kate/wine notepad
[11:15] <Mamarok> ok, system settins -> advanced tab -> file associations, then set to defaults
[11:15] <Mamarok> settings* even
[11:18] <richie> hmmm... defaults button is grayed out, even when I sudo systemsettings
[11:19] <Mamarok> richie: is the "Remove" button activated?
[11:19] <Mamarok> then click on that
[11:20] <richie> remove is grayed out too... very odd
[11:20] <Sevis> Same here.
[11:20] <richie> can only click add or help
[11:20] <Sevis> Except mine isn't broken... Let me see.
[11:21] <richie> and you're all the help i need
[11:21] <Sevis> System Settings -> Default Applications, correct?
[11:24] <homy> Hm. With me, the Defaults and Reset buttons in the File associatios are also greyed out.
[11:25] <richie> Sevis: Default Applications is the same
[11:25] <richie> I want my Defaults button now!
[11:25] <Sevis> So is Help, over here ^^
[11:28] <richie> KDE hates me
[11:28] <richie> It's refusing to let me restore my file associations
[11:29] <Sevis> I'd suggest doing it by hand.
[11:30] <homy> richie: reinstall kubuntu!
[11:30] <homy> then they will be at their defaults.
[11:30] <homy> :)
[11:30] <richie> Did that last night, homy! And normally I'd agree with Sevis. But it's the principle of the thing, now. KDE is tempting me with buttons I can't use! I want to use them!
[11:31] <homy> No honestly, where are the file associations saved? That has to be a text file somewhere you can replace.
[11:31] <Sevis> Richie, I actually think you'd prefer not to press that Defaults button.
[11:31] <Sevis> If it completely resets associations, it may clear ALL your custom ones.
[11:32] <richie> Is that opening up a whole world of pain, Sevis? Do I even have custom ones?! Tell you what, see if we can find how to get that button activated, and I *might* not click it ;)
[11:33] <raphink> homy: in mimeapps.list
[11:33] <Sevis> Oh? Well... I have the feeling it may remove everything...
[11:33] <Sevis> Thanks, Raphink
[11:33] <raphink> iirc
[11:33] <raphink> as in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list does it
[11:33] <Sevis> ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[11:34] <raphink> yep, exactly
[11:34] <homy> Ok, so if somebody having default file associations would be willing to share his ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, the problems seems to be solved-.
[11:34] <Sevis> There's no need for that.
[11:34] <homy> (Well, not the problem with the buttons greyed out...)
[11:34] <raphink> homy: if you want defaults, you'd have to remove this file
[11:34] <Sevis> It only has custom associations.
[11:35] <raphink> the system defaults are not stored there
[11:36] <richie> Why thank you, raphink!
[11:36] <raphink> funny
[11:36]  * richie is deleting ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[11:36] <raphink> I see homy ask a question and it's Sevis and richie that thank for the answer
[11:36] <raphink> I'm not sure who needed that in the first place ;)
[11:39] <homy> oh! Where are the default associations saved then? I can see loads of .desktop files in /usr/share/mime/, but they don't seem to contain any applications?
[11:39] <homy> raphink: ok, I'll thank you too, as it also solved my problem of reverting file associations to their defaults.
[11:40] <raphink> ah, good that it solved your issue
[11:40] <raphink> I don't know where the defaults are stored really
[11:40] <richie> Just cleaned out ~./local/share/mime and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list... and all my problems have gone! raphink, you're a genius.
[11:40] <Sevis> You deleted all the .desktop files in ~/.local/share/mime ?
[11:41] <raphink> no, that wouldn't be fair... I just happened to write a script some time ago that needed to recognize some mime that the system did not know, so I had to search that for a few hours
[11:41] <richie> Only the ones I knew were causing probelms, Sevis
[11:41] <Sevis> Ah, okay then, you worried me there :P
[11:43] <raphink> richie: I don't think there are defaults for the sytem actually
[11:43] <raphink> each program declares which mime types they support
[11:43] <raphink> in their .desktop
[11:43] <raphink> like
[11:43] <raphink> grep MimeType /usr/share/applications/kde4/gwenview.desktop
[11:43] <raphink> then KDE just takes them in whatever order
[11:43] <richie> cool - you live and learn!
[11:43] <raphink> unless you specified defaults in your ~/.local/share/mime
[11:43] <homy> whatever oder -> random?
[11:44] <raphink> homy: no idea, maybe alphabetical ;)
[11:44] <homy> s/oder/order/
[11:44] <raphink> I don't think the KDE dev would have a random algorithm for that ;)
[11:44] <homy> maybe sorted by ascending inodes.
[11:44] <raphink> lol
[11:45] <raphink> when I open an image, I have
[11:45] <raphink> gwenview -> Opera -> Gimp -> Mozilla -> Firefox -> showFoto -> Arora -> Okular -> Minefield
[11:45] <raphink> there doesn't seem to be an obvious logic in the order
[11:46] <raphink> maybe order of installation...
[11:46] <raphink> I _think_ the system builds a mime.cache database when new programs are installed
[11:46] <homy> Uhm, I have GwenView Kolourpaint Gimp Okular Shiretoko
[11:47] <raphink> so we have the same order
[11:47] <raphink> for the programs we have in common that is
[11:47] <homy> how can I write something beginning with /?
[11:48] <homy> I get "Unknown command." :)
[11:48] <raphink> what are you trying to do ?
[11:49] <homy> write something beginning with / in irc
[11:49] <raphink> ah
[11:49] <raphink> put a space before it
[11:50] <homy>  /usr/bin/update-mime-database, that is
[11:51] <raphink> well /usr/bin/update-mime-database.real is the real program that does it
[11:51] <raphink> update-mime-database is a dpkg hook
[11:52] <homy> ah, ok.
[12:20] <ace> Can someone help? I installed Ubuntu 9.04 on an Acer Aspire 3641wxmi laptop and I'm not getting any sound. I do get sound out of headphones but not internal speakers
[12:27] <resno> when virtualizing windows, can windows use devices linux does not have working drivers for?
[12:30] <Sevis> Resno - only in some very rare cases.
[12:31] <resno> Sevis: i would like to be able to use a tuner card that i have windows drivers for and linux doesnt have.
[12:32] <Sevis> Sorry, no idea how you'd be doing that.
[13:41] <liitu> I really need some help with this! I have a compaq 6715s laptop with ATI x1250 Graphics Card, and today when i turned the computer on, when i'm about to login the screen just gets blurry and I cant see or do anything
[13:41] <ace>  I'm trying to load Ubuntu 9.04 on an HP laptop that has Vista. I'm trying to install side by side but when it comes to the partition manager it doesn't give the option. It only has use entire disk, this will delete Vista partition.. Is there any other way to make it run side by side?
[13:43] <thisismyname> @ace shure there is a way
[13:43] <thisismyname> try the "expert" installation, or manual partition...
[13:44] <thisismyname> u can identify the vista partition by looking @ the filesystem...
[13:52] <Sevis> Ace, try making your Vista partition smaller beforehand.
[13:54] <ace> sevis: Ok
[13:55] <ace> thisismyname: I will try that
[14:08] <epqr> Hi im converting a file with terminal
[14:08] <epqr> when it's like this picture does that mean it's working ?
[14:08] <epqr> http://twitpic.com/ddz9e
[14:10] <epqr> like is it still working on converting if it's like that
[14:10] <epqr> http://twitpic.com/ddz9e
[14:13] <raphink> epqr: it means it's doing something
[14:14] <raphink> epqr: whenever you get the prompt again (the $), it means it's finished
[14:14] <raphink> and if it says nothing, it means it worked
[14:14] <epqr> Ok, thank you :)
[14:14] <khaije|amalt> anyone else's amarok song tags borked in kde 4.3 ?
[14:39] <Parfet> does anyone know what it means when i try to connect to a wifi hotspot and get this back from dmesg?  :: [  603.855329] wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3) ::
[14:46] <BluesKaj> heyas all
[14:52] <theseus2> Can anybody help me? My Strigi search doesn't work. Strigi and Nepomuk in systemsettings are activated but ther are no results under "nepomuksearch:/ " in dolphin. Also the hastag search doesnt work with Alt + F2
[14:53] <shadeslayer> theseus2: thyre broken afaik
[14:54] <theseus2> oh! Good to know. Thanks shadeslayer
[14:55] <shadeslayer> theseus2: no probs
[14:59] <epqr> M y mouse wheel is way to sensitive and it scrolls way too fast
[14:59] <epqr> even after i chagne the mouse settings in systems settings
[15:00] <epqr> I set the lines to scroll to 1, but its still way way to fasst.
[15:04] <Caliostro> Hello, guys
[15:05] <Caliostro> I've a native bug with kubuntu :)
[15:08] <Caliostro> The point is that when plasma is trying to open some files (wallpapers, widgets, etc) on my local computer there's no files in browser. But dolphin has access to FS. Where could be the problem?
[15:10] <Caliostro> And when I'm opening plasma browser from "Desktop settings" it takes about two minutes before browser appears.
[15:11] <Caliostro> Any thoughts?
[15:14] <ajavid> hi
[15:15] <Caliostro> Hi, ajavid
[15:15] <ajavid> I installed from cd, and then aptitude full-upgrade
[15:15] <ajavid> however I do not have kde4.3
[15:15] <ajavid> what must I do?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> ajavid: see the topic
[15:15] <ajavid> hmm, read topic for one
[15:15] <ajavid> shadeslayer, already there
[15:15] <shadeslayer> ajavid: ok then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:15] <ajavid> which repository should I add, hang on
[15:16] <ajavid> fantastic
[15:16] <ajavid> I click link and it opens in kate
[15:16] <ajavid> lol
[15:16] <Caliostro> Hmm, I've KDE 4.3. It's strange :)
[15:16] <ajavid> is this a bug? (I just intalled kubuntu)
[15:17] <ajavid> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:17] <ajavid> i got it, thanks
[15:17] <ajavid> also
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ajavid: after adding that line,you need to sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:17] <ajavid> what is the repo for ww32codecs and such? do you know off hand or do I have to go through 3 websites to find the url (medibuntu to wiki to blah)
[15:18] <ajavid> shadeslayer, got ya
[15:18] <shadeslayer> ajavid: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:18] <Caliostro> I've 4.2 a few days ago and I didn't do upgrade )
[15:18] <Caliostro> Does anyone has ideas how to solve my problem?
[15:19] <ajavid> argh, now ih ave to use gui's to update my key?
[15:19] <shadeslayer> Caliostro: do you want KDE 4.3?
[15:19] <Caliostro> (with plasma)
[15:19] <shadeslayer> ajavid: not necessary
[15:19] <Caliostro> The point is that when plasma is trying to open some files (wallpapers, widgets, etc) on my local computer there's no files in browser. But dolphin has access to FS. Where could be the problem?
[15:19] <Caliostro> shadeslayer, I already have KDE 4.3 but it works with bugs :)
[15:19] <shadeslayer> ajavid: hold on
[15:20] <ajavid> holding on
[15:20] <ajavid> also when you get back
[15:20] <ajavid> I'd like x86 with PAE, which kernel should I install?
[15:20] <ajavid> I can't find a bigmem kernel
[15:21]  * ajavid has 8gb ram but don't want amd64
[15:21] <ajavid> please advise
[15:21] <Caliostro>  :)
[15:22] <ajavid> Caliostro, how is your hand?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ajavid: no idea on that..
[15:22] <ajavid> 8min till 400~ish mb is downloaded
[15:23] <Caliostro> ajavid, sorry for my english, but I don't understand.
[15:23] <shadeslayer> ajavid: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A : in a termina
[15:24] <ajavid> shadeslayer, thank you very much
[15:24] <ajavid> Caliostro, where is your nickname come from?
[15:25] <Caliostro> Oh, it's from dark places of my mind ;)
[15:26] <Caliostro> So, am I the one with such a big bug in kubuntu?
[15:29] <ajavid> For 32-bit systems the Server Edition is configured to use PAE which allows addressing up to 64GB of memory while the Desktop Edition is configured for 4GB.
[15:29] <ajavid> I need the server kernel it seems
[15:29] <ajavid> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel
[15:29] <ajavid> it seems the server kernel has more stuff than I want
[15:29] <ajavid> I'm not sure how do these things make a diff?
[15:29] <ajavid> the features on this page compared to the desktop edition
[15:30] <Caliostro> ajavid, good luck with server edition and those stuff ;)
[15:30] <ajavid> or should I rebuild the desktop kernel and enable  bigmem ?
[15:30] <ajavid> Caliostro, afaik, Caliostro was the guy who had a sword for a hand
[15:30] <ajavid> he was Spawn's trainer :)
[15:31] <ajavid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogliostro
[15:31] <ajavid> nm, it was cogliostro
[15:34] <Caliostro> Oh, I saw that page )
[15:35] <Caliostro> I think I can can hold a sword, but now more effectively are guns :)
[15:38] <Caliostro> rifles, submachine guns, cannons )))
[15:41] <ajavid> a cannon? you can hold a cannon?
[15:41] <ajavid> wow.
[15:46] <Caliostro> Also I can hold many different stuff with console of crane in my hand ;)
[15:59] <ajavid> hi
[16:00] <ajavid> im back
[16:00] <ajavid> how do I make konqueror the default file manager
[16:00] <ajavid> I do not like dolphin
[16:01] <ajavid> system settings - file asco.
[16:01] <ajavid> I moved konqueor up in order for inode directory
[16:04] <canen> since sometime last week openoffice stopped working. anyone else having a similar issue?
[16:09] <sazdajt4> 1
[16:11] <Caliostro> ajavid, System Settings -> Default applications (something like it)
[16:13] <ajavid> thanks
[16:19] <Caliostro> ajavid, you are welcome ;)
[16:26] <jack8899> I am trying to install kubuntu 9.04 x64,but after installation with thealternae cdand rebooting thePC won't boot, it says I shall put in the boot device.
[16:28] <jack8899> it seems the computer doesnt recognize the installed kubuntu
[16:39] <kekeke> hi, im running the latest version of ubuntu server and was wondering how i could go about installing kubuntu... i'm trying apt-get install kubuntu-desktop however i get the message 'couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop'. can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[16:39] <genii-around> kekeke: Did you do first: sudo apt-get update
[16:40] <kekeke> thanks genii-around, doing it right now
[16:40] <kekeke> hmm
[16:40] <kekeke> now i get
[16:40] <kekeke> E: Broken packages
[16:41] <kekeke> sorry i'll paste it
[16:41] <kekeke> 2 sec
[16:42] <kekeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/250892/
[16:42] <kekeke> do i have to install each of those dependancies individually?
[16:49] <yovan> Hi everybody
[16:50] <yovan> i have a question  : katapult no longer exists on kubuntu jaunty?
[16:51] <yovan> The 9.04 has no katapult??? Is there any program laucher like that in this last version
[16:51] <phh> krunner isn't enough for you ?
[16:51] <phh> it's less eye-candy, but way more usable
[16:52] <yovan> it has shortcuts...keybord shortcts
[16:52] <phh> what sort of shortcuts ?
[16:52] <yovan> for lauching an application
[16:52] <phh> yeah... as alt-f2 you mean ?
[16:53] <yovan> i haven't used it before
[16:53] <phh> -_-
[16:53] <yovan> so the alt F2 is krunner
[16:53] <phh> it has always been the default shortcut for krunner and its ancestors
[16:53] <oem> . |
[16:53] <yovan> lol
[16:54] <phh> I think even other DE uses the same shortcuts
[16:55] <yovan> thanks man  i hoped to find something like katapult
[16:55] <phh> and it's even better.
[16:55] <yovan> caused you didn't have to completely know the whole apps name
[16:56] <phh> well you could have looked at default global shortcuts
[16:56] <kekeke> can someone help me out, i'm trying to install kubuntu and i'm getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/250892/
[16:56] <kekeke> do i have to install those dependancies individually?
[16:56] <yovan> Thanks for your help phh
[16:56] <phh> kekeke: you're not running stable ubuntu, are you ?
[16:58] <kekeke> phh nope
[16:58] <kekeke> is that a problem?
[16:58] <phh> kekeke: well... the packages are marked as broken
[16:58] <phh> so as long as they are marked so, you won't be able to install it automaticly
[16:58] <phh> maybe individual install may work
[16:58] <kekeke> hm kk
[16:58] <kekeke> thanks
[17:02] <admin7> i have a bizarre display issue in ubuntu. anyone willing to take a crack at it?
[17:04] <rulo> hello
[17:04] <admin7> hello
[17:04] <rulo> anyone can help me?
[17:04] <admin7> with what
[17:05] <rulo> i am searching a spanich channel for konversation
[17:05] <genii-around> !es
[17:06] <admin7> i am serching for why my display has 2 pixelated lines going horizontally down the screen?
[17:06] <fcambria_> Hi
[17:06] <rulo> pero hay canales españoles no?
[17:06] <fcambria_> irc.freenode.net.
[17:07] <fcambria_> #ubuntu-ar
[17:07] <fcambria_> ahí tenés un canal de Ubuntu en castellano
[17:08] <Mamarok> !es | fcambria_
[17:08] <rulo> donde se puede ver la lista de canales existentes?
[17:09] <Mamarok> rulo: English, please!
[17:09] <rulo> ok sorry
[17:10] <Mamarok> rulo: you can check here for most of the channels, but I don't know if this list is up to date: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels
[17:10] <rulo> where is the channel list?
[17:10] <Mamarok> also:
[17:11] <Mamarok> !list | rulo
[17:14] <rulo> thanks mamarok
[17:16] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:23] <alinux> hi I am using kontakt however I want to minimize it on close to the icons in the tray bar and not keep it in the task bar is this possible ?
[17:27] <epqr> My mouse scrolls too fast
[17:28] <epqr> and it doesn't cahgne by editing the mouse settings in system settings
[17:38] <Parfet> anyone know where to get the development packages under kubuntu? in my docs for the app i'm trying to compile, it suggests 'foo-dev' or 'foo-devel'... i find no such thing...
[17:39] <Parfet> or is there an easy way to wrap a tarball into a .deb installer?
[17:46] <EagleScreen> Parf: what are u trying to compile?
[17:47] <bellsan> #ubuntu
[17:47] <Parf> program a friend recommended for netstumbling, kismet
[17:48] <Parf> the config ends with : configure: error: Neither uclibc uClibc++ or standard gcc stdc++ libraries found.
[17:49] <rav> hello. i updated to intrepid and now i have something called akonadi, and it's preventing from syncing my PDA
[17:49] <rav> it says i need an akonadi collection. how do i create one?
[17:50]  * rulo he marchado a trabajar: Gone away for now
[17:51] <EagleScreen> Parf: did you install build-essential?
[17:51] <Parf> no idea, but i can try it
[17:52] <epqr> Im gonna ask again
[17:52] <EagleScreen> rav Kubuntu intrepid is as bad as Hell
[17:52] <epqr> my mouse scrolls too fast
[17:52] <epqr> and the settings in system settings doesnt fix it
[17:52] <rav> EagleScreen: is jaunty any better?
[17:53] <EagleScreen> yes rav, a lot
[17:54] <rav> EagleScreen: if i just replace jaunty for intrepid in sources.list and update, will that do it?
[17:54] <EagleScreen> yes rav, but there is a suposed better way
[17:54] <EagleScreen> rav, run kdesudo update-notifier-kde -d
[17:56] <rav> EagleScreen: thanks, upgrading now
[18:01] <shadeslayer> whats the package name for glib dev packages?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> found it!
[18:11] <trampel> epqr;  this sounds nuts, but have you tried unplugging the (usb) mouse plug and plugging it back in?
[18:47] <pteague_work> what package do i need in order to set up font size & such?  i know it used to be kcontrol
[18:48] <epqr> IM on kde 4.3 and i have this temprature montioring applet, but it doesn show anything
[18:48] <epqr> is there somethings i have to isntall to make it work ?
[18:54] <Freddy2> hi
[18:55] <Freddy2> why some scripts that i launch at rc2.d/rc3.d/rc5.d are not running after booting while other do?
[18:56] <Sevis> Freddy - are you sure they don't complete?
[18:56] <Freddy2> for example i've tested with one having a loop forever in the background, but nothing happens.. if i run it manually (with sudo) after booting then it remains there forever
[18:56] <Sevis> What is the script supposed to do?
[18:57] <Freddy2> it launches djbdns in a loop, trying to be a respawn-like launcher
[18:57] <Sevis> Does it run at least once?
[18:57] <Freddy2> other scripts do, and i can try to echo something to check it, but it should
[18:58] <Freddy2> (other similar scripts, same directory...)
[18:58] <Sevis> Try echoing something, please, to see if it has at least one itteration.
[18:58] <Freddy2> ok
[19:00] <theadmin> KGPG keeps crashing after sending key to a keyserver. What the?
[19:03] <Sevis> Freddy2, where do you put scripts when you want them to run on every boot, again?
[19:04] <theadmin> Sevis: /home/yourname/.autostart
[19:04] <Freddy2> re
[19:04] <Freddy2> http://pastebin.com/m6f386988
[19:04] <Freddy2> this script is launched from /etc/rcX.d/S99another, where it calls /path/to/theOtherScript &
[19:05] <Sevis> Thanks
[19:05] <Freddy2> i can see "p3" at output, but nor p4 neither any process running
[19:06] <Freddy2> the while condition is a stupid one, i know hehe
[19:08] <trampel> Freddy2: how does the while loop ever break to do the "p4"?  (i'm probably missing something obvious)
[19:09] <Freddy2> it musn't, but then the inside process should be running (djbdns), and it doesn't
[19:09] <trampel> Freddy2: then your problem is narrowed.  isn't it?
[19:09] <Freddy2> it does
[19:10] <pteague_work> anybody know what package i need to install in order to change font sizes?
[19:10] <Freddy2> i'm starting to think about parent's death to cause script process death too
[19:10] <Freddy2> afaik children should become a new son from init, but..
[19:11] <Freddy2> *children/child process
[19:13] <Freddy2> let me try somehting
[19:17] <Freddy2> well, the "Starting" echo just appears once (i've redirected to the output file too)
[19:39] <szenek> Привет всем!! кто поможет с монитором??
[19:41] <genii-around> !ru
[19:54] <Freddy2> well, it finally works hehe
[19:55] <Freddy2> it seems you can not launch the script directly.. it works fine calling it from start-stop-daemon
[20:26] <Specialist> I just upgraded my Jaunty installation to KDE 4.3 and Kontakt seems to no longer remember my shortcut customizations. Does somebody know in which config file KMail / Kontact store those customizations?
[20:28] <noquinho> may i have another program to replace amsn? its not working
[20:28] <Sevis> Noquinho: Kopete, Pidgin
[20:28] <noquinho> but what happens with my contacts from msn ?
[20:29] <noquinho> may i talk with video ?
[20:31] <Guest10896> Hola a todos!!!!!!!!
[20:33] <Sevis> No, Noquinho. No video or audiochat, but you'll have the contacts.
[20:39] <zayx> does anyone know what the command kde 4.3 issues for a reboot/shutdown is?
[20:40] <Pici> zayx: sudo reboot or sudo poweroff
[20:41] <noquinho> how do i unistall pulse audio ?
[20:42] <zayx> Pici: no i mean the command issued when selecting reboot/shutdown from the kmenu which saves sessions and all
[20:42] <bdgraue> noquinho: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[20:42] <zayx> i wish it were as simple as reboot/halt
[20:43] <Pici> zayx: I'm sorry, I don't know. I don't actually use KDE myself.
[20:43] <zayx> oh lol ok then
[20:43] <noquinho> thx
[20:45] <trampel> zayx: what does running "locate shutdown | egrep -i 'kubun|kde'" return on your machine ..maybe?
[20:46] <zayx> trampel: hmm that led to two possabilities i hadnt thought about
[20:46] <zayx> brb if it works
[20:48] <zayx> lol ok so kdeinit4_shutdown logged me out and segfaulted ksmserver
[20:49] <zayx> not exactly what i was going for but still getting somewhere
[20:51] <zayx> to be specific the problem im having is that when i select reboot/shutdown/logout from the kmenu it closes opera and then sits at the desktop while failing to reboot/shutdown/logout
[20:54] <trampel> zayx: this is among 'the old knowledge' but are you running an ATI video card?
[20:55] <zayx> yes but it also happens on an nvidia desktop i have
[20:58] <zayx> trampel: this is driving me crazy because there is no way i can easily track down what its failing to do
[20:59] <jimmy51_home> i'm trying to use kmail for the first time.  i've got it setup using IMAP.  it seems to be SUPER slow.  it just alerted me that i have a new message, but it's taking over 3 minutes to let me view the message.  I can see the subject, but clicking on it does nothing.
[21:00] <jimmy51_home> i checked using webmail, it's it's a 5 sentence email.  is this common?
[21:01] <trampel> zayx:  my burnt and frayed memory recalls that there were two approaches to this problem.  one involving adjusting 'atieventsd' and the other some nasty acpi option.  i can't hold out much hope for either being your problem ...i'm sorry.
[21:02] <zayx> trampel: well i do get an error on init for acpi so it is a possability
[21:02] <trampel> zayx: oh... and there was something about samba getting in an endless loop.
[21:02] <trampel> ...i gotta keep better notes...
[21:03] <zayx> lol
[21:04] <zayx> well i think whats left to do is check if a nightly live image will reboot properly and if so install :/
[21:05] <zayx> ubuntus got me going all -.- lately
[21:06] <zayx> trampel: thanks for the help anyways though
[21:10] <eggy_> Hello, using kubuntu jaunty the python-qscintilla2 package is broken again
[21:10] <eggy_> How do I fix this? I can't use any python qscintilla applications this way
[21:12] <eggy_> I'm getting incredably annoyed with the retarded maintainer of this package, this is like the third time I experience it breaking
[21:19] <eggy_> After a reinstall of a different version it seems to work, thanks
[21:20] <kroson> hi people
[21:20] <kroson> ive just upgraded my Oo installation to 3.1 from 3.01 that came by default
[21:20] <kroson> in kubuntu 9.04
[21:20] <kroson> but ive noticed that i lost the openoffice.org-kde packages, giving the software a little uglier look
[21:21] <kroson> is there any packages that makes it look better, GTK or QT?
[21:22] <kroson> plz
[21:22] <kroson> anyone
[21:24] <trampel> kroson: what specifically has what sort of uglier look?
[21:25] <kroson> all the openoffice packages, they have a different look, not the Qt integrated that they had before
[21:25] <kroson> the windows themselves
[21:30] <trampel> kroson: does putting the line "export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde" in your .bashrc help or change anything? (and obviously logging out and back in or some-such)
[21:38] <marcreichelt> hi there
[21:39] <marcreichelt> does anybody know where I can modify the startup order of the Kicker applets (KDE 3.5.10, Kubuntu 8.04)?
[21:40] <marcreichelt> my goal is to get the knetworkmanager to start before all other applets so that the internet connection is ready before the other applets start
[22:02] <Third3ye> Ey folks. I'm having a bit of trouble. Everytime I boot ubuntu or the livecd (I managed to install using the alternative install cd) it freezes. At first I thought it was X but turns it it's a "kernel panic" (I think (it had a lot of strange non explanatory debug info and an "end trace ac09j2ndsomething")
[22:04] <Third3ye> A question better suited for #ubuntu?
[22:06] <Sevis> Third3ye, are you installing Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[22:10] <maco> Sevis: kubuntu. he saidi n #ubuntu that he can only see the kernel panic message if he turns off kdm
[22:11] <Sevis> Aha, okay, thanks.
[22:19] <ajavid> hey
[22:19] <ajavid> I installed firefox3.-5 package and I got a Shiretoko
[22:19] <ajavid> what gives?
[22:19] <ajavid> its only 3.5.2 and not 3.5.3 and its not called firefox
[22:19] <ajavid> its called preview browser in kde menu
[22:21] <ajavid> hello..?
[22:22] <chal`away> ajavid, just wait patiently and perhaps try google while you wait.
[22:23] <BluesKaj> ajavid, all the above you just said is true , so what's your question
[22:24] <stetzen> Hello! Sorry for the question... But does ayone use mplayer under KDE4? I have some problems with sound if KDE4 app and mplayer are producing sound together...
[22:24] <BluesKaj> ff i3.5 and 3.6 aren't fully dev'd yet
[22:24] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:26] <da1l6> stetzen: works fine for me (tested juk + smplayer). What audio output does mplayer use?
[22:26] <stetzen> alsa
[22:27] <da1l6> same here
[22:27] <da1l6> can you describe the problem in a little more detail?
[22:29] <da1l6> stetzen: i am using kde 4.3 here, btw.
[22:30] <stetzen> KDE media configured to use analod sound card. When I'm trying to play a file with mplayer, I'm getting following: http://pastebin.com/m7be810cc
[22:30] <stetzen> Yes, KDE 4.3 here as well
[22:32] <da1l6> stetzen: sounds like the sound device is blocked. does KDE use alsa or OSS?
[22:33] <stetzen> It should be alsa. The top device in the list in sound settings is HDA Intel (Analog). Is there a way to check specifically, is it alsa or OSS
[22:33] <stetzen> *?
[22:35] <da1l6> the tooltip on that item should at least list the order of configurations it tries.
[22:37] <da1l6> you could try moving the hw0,0 entry to the top of the list. (warning: i am now guessing here)
[22:40] <stetzen> The top item in the tooltip is ALSA, the second one is alsa as well.  And there is no entry for hw0,0 neither in the tooltop nor in the list of devices
[22:40] <i00nsu> hi all
[22:40] <da1l6> stetzen, sorry i am out of ideas
[22:41] <stetzen> OK than... Thanks!
[22:54] <yoga> I try to install the renewly release KDE 4.3.  When I sudo apt-get upgrade, it says that some packages are keep back such as kdebase-workspace kdm etc.  Is that ok?  How do I upgrade to KDE 4.3?
[22:55] <Sevis> Yoga - tried dist-upgrade ?
[22:58] <rav> hello. how do you configure an akonadi collection on jaunty?
[23:17] <rav> can akonadi be removed?
[23:17] <phh> i'd say no.
[23:17] <phh> raindog: you've got problems with it ?
[23:18] <rav> phh: so i can't get PIM without akonadi?
[23:19] <phh> It's heavily linked mmm
[23:19] <phh> it should be able to work without it, but i don't thing packages are able to work without it
[23:19] <rav> phh: but it doesn't work. i get 'Unknown error: could not create collection'
[23:20] <raindog> phh:  regarding?
[23:20] <phh> raindog: ?
[23:20] <phh> rav: you made an upgrade from 4.2 ?
[23:20] <phh> maybe try the goold old rm -Rf ~/.config/akonadi
[23:20] <rav> phh: just upgraded to jaunty
[23:20] <phh> oO
[23:21] <phh> that's weir
[23:21] <phh> d
[23:21] <phh> well try the rm -Rf first anyway
[23:21] <rav> phh: and then?
[23:21] <raindog> phh:  you asked me "you've got problems with it?"  perhaps an autocompete error?
[23:21] <phh> raindog: erf sorry ...
[23:22] <raindog> phh:  No problem.  :)
[23:22] <phh> rav: logout/login
[23:24] <rav> i shall return
[23:48] <Planetary> ahh, kpackagekit isnt working for me. where is adapt or synaptic?


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