[09:38] <varron> how does the packaging of ubuntu compared with debian? is fiesty fawn comparable to debian 'stable'? what would be comparable to debian 'testing'?
[09:38] <jombee> closer to testing
[09:38] <MajorPayne> I think Ubuntu is based off Debian unstable?
[09:39] <hexstar> but it's still damn stable
[09:39] <hexstar> :)
[09:39] <jombee> but my ubuntu box is just as stable as my debian ever was
[09:39] <PhysicX> How to change policy from 800Mhz to 2Ghz ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/
[09:39] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: not really
[09:39] <hexstar> physicx? are you looking to overclock?
[09:39] <varron> which is the released version of ubuntu?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: also, "unstable" in this case means "subject to change", not "unreliable"
[09:39] <MajorPayne> gordonjcp: I thought they based it off unstable but just chose core packages to make sure was stable before each releace.
[09:40] <jussi01> !debian
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:40] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: sometihng along those lines
[09:40] <MajorPayne> gordonjcp: I did not mean that Ubuntu is unstable.
[09:40] <PhysicX> hexstar: no, i just want that cpu step up then its starts using CPU more.
[09:41] <varron> fiesty fawn is a released version?
[09:41] <jerbull88> ubuntu is based of debian unstable(sid) which unstable means that it changes and thats causing an issue with compaitbility because ubuntu is constatnyl getting less compatible with debian stable(sarge)
[09:41] <Tixer> none of the things work
[09:41] <Tixer> man remote-desktop is fail
[09:41] <hexstar> tixer, can you paste the output when you do man remote-desktop please?
[09:41] <MajorPayne> Tixer: If it is a server you are running there is no real need to use VNC.  Use ssh.
[09:41] <jombee> physicx are you on a laptop with a variable proc?
[09:41] <Tixer> I prefer to use both
[09:42] <MajorPayne> Tixer: A X server will just slow down your server.
[09:42] <varron> how can something be call a software release if it is still changing?
[09:42] <Tixer> Not all apps on my server can use SSH
[09:42] <jussi01> !feisty | varron
[09:42] <ubotu> varron: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[09:42] <hexstar> tixer: use webmin as the "gui", much better
[09:42] <PhysicX> jombee: yeah
[09:42] <Tixer> linkplz?
[09:42] <MajorPayne> varron: Fiesty Fawn is not changing.
[09:42] <hexstar> webmin.com
[09:43] <Tixer> that doesn't help
[09:43] <jerbull88> ff is not changng just many of the packages
[09:43] <varron> but fiesty fawn is based on debian's 'unstable', which is changing.
[09:43] <MajorPayne> varron: But Fiesty Fawn is based off a snapshot of a changing distro (Debian stable0.
[09:43] <Tixer> I can already do that stuff over SSH
[09:43] <hexstar> well, I suggest it as a good not so cpu intensive alternative to x
[09:43] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: Isn't the updates just security related?
[09:43] <Tixer> it's other programs
[09:43] <jerbull88> no
[09:43] <hexstar> you shouldn't be running gui apps on a server
[09:43] <jombee> physicx I use k on my laptop let me find out what the name of the app is
[09:43] <varron> MajorPayne, debian stable is a release.
[09:43] <joeu__> hi
[09:44] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: Are you sure?  When Ubuntu makes a releace I thought they only include security, maybe some bug fixes
[09:44] <Tixer> hexstar: I also should be using a real cooling solution to cool a server, and not Q-Tips
[09:44] <PhysicX> jombee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/
[09:44] <jerbull88> they cover a broad range of packages to fix bugs
[09:44] <Tixer> >.<
[09:44] <PhysicX> soryr
[09:44] <MajorPayne> varron: So is FF.
[09:44] <hexstar> majorpayne: aren't some feature additions?
[09:44] <PhysicX> jombee: cpufrequtils
[09:44] <hexstar> tixer: lol
[09:44] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: What was that about the isp fraud?
[09:44] <Tixer> my thing doesn't get that much load
[09:44] <hexstar> soul: the threat I got from the cctalk admin after he banned me
[09:44] <MajorPayne> hexstar: I don't think.  Not between releaces.  But I could be wrong.
[09:44] <Tixer> so it doesn't matter
[09:44] <joeu__> some people have problem with the new version of firefox? (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[09:45] <varron> MajorPayne, so fiesty fawn is assumed not to change besides any secuirty updates?
[09:45] <jussi01> hexstar: MajorPayneis correct, the only fixes released are security ones on ff
[09:45] <MajorPayne> varron: And bug fixes, as far as I know.
[09:45] <hexstar> he said "fraud" because I did sign up under a different name to try and just continue getting posts...I slipped though and sent a post in and that tipped him off
[09:45] <Tixer> so how can I force the resolution to higher
[09:45] <jombee>  there is an app that you can dock to make it slow fast or dynamic
[09:45] <joeu__> since i update firefox, i cant access to the web
[09:45] <jerbull88> varron, the core of ff will not change until the next release
[09:45] <hexstar> jussi01: oh you're talking about ff
[09:46] <hexstar> thought you were talking about in general
[09:46] <bullgard4> How is a 'launcher' defined? Is it a function (see  http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/84973/0/print/)? Is it a data structure? Is it an executable file (see Ubuntu dialog 'Create Launcher')?
[09:46] <jussi01> hexstar: yes - ff - feisty fawn
[09:46] <hexstar> ok lol
[09:46] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: I have a site license for Enterprise, think I can do whatever I want with it =P
[09:46] <jussi01> hexstar: so the current release
[09:46] <hexstar> indeed
[09:46] <hexstar> what's the next release called?
[09:46] <varron> in that case, 'fiesty fawn' is stable. in that case which is  'testing' in ubuntu?
[09:47] <MajorPayne> varron: Gutsy Gibbon.
[09:48] <varron> ok, thks.
[09:48] <jerbull88> major, r u serious, thats the new release?
[09:48] <hexstar> ah gutsy is the next ubuntu release?
[09:48] <mwe> right
[09:48] <hexstar> cool
[09:48] <jussi01> hexstar: yes
[09:48] <jussi01> !release
[09:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:48] <jerbull88> whats a gibbon
[09:48] <hexstar> lol
[09:48] <jussi01> jerbull88: monkey
[09:48] <SoulPropagation> scotty: no problem btw
[09:48] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: That's the next one.
[09:48] <gordonjcp> hexstar: well not so much fraud, as the way you constantly advocated software piracy on the list
[09:48] <osfameron> a small ape in the family Hylobatidae
[09:48] <jerbull88> i like feistys name so much better
[09:49] <SoulPropagation> scotty: just try to help someone else with the problem someday =D
[09:49] <jombee> I can't find it
[09:49] <MajorPayne> I just call it 7.10.
[09:49] <hexstar> gordonjcp: see, the russian comment wasn't meant to advocate piracy but everyone took it as such
[09:49] <jerbull88> osfameron, way to go crocodile hunter
[09:49] <jussi01> anyway, we need to get back on topic here. who has support questions
[09:49] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: What was the comment anyway
[09:49] <scotty> SoulPropagation: Will do :D
[09:49] <jussi01> ?
[09:49] <MajorPayne> Etch is the only releace that I call by it's name.  And that's because it will not change for a long long time.
[09:49] <PhysicX> anyone use cpufrequtils to control CPU SPEED
[09:49] <gordonjcp> hexstar: a comment which boiled down to "let's upload lots of copyrighted material to a server in Russia"
[09:49] <hexstar> SoulPropagation: I said "Why not host in russia? That way we won't have to worry about copyrights?"
[09:50] <jussi01> !offtopic | hexstar SoulPropagation
[09:50] <ubotu> hexstar SoulPropagation: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:50] <NETWizz> Knock Knock
[09:50] <gordonjcp> hexstar: this is offtopic, anyway
[09:50] <hexstar> The discussion was about doing a vintage software archive, my comment was intended to be such that since some old software has copyrights still we could archive it all publicly without having to worry about the copyrights. I wouldn't think of it as pirating as the software is only used by a minority of people and is 99% of the time abandoned by the creator who may not even exist anymore
[09:50] <hexstar> It would merely be a safety measure to something that shouldn't be a issue anyways
[09:51] <osfameron> how do I get mutt to use my email address in From and Reply-To?
[09:51] <jussi01> hexstar: please go to off topic
[09:51] <hexstar> k
[09:51] <NETWizz> Knock Knock
[09:51] <osfameron> I've set "from", "envelope_from" and "hidden_host"...
[09:51] <osfameron> (cargo culted from someone else's muttrc, but I'm still seeing   osfameron@myhostname  as the from and reply-to address...)
[09:51] <MajorPayne> osfameron: try use_from="yes"
[09:52] <hexstar> are you in offtopic gordonjcp?
[09:52] <osfameron> MajorPayne: ah, ok - I wondered about that, but man muttrc suggested it was the default... I'll try!
[09:52] <MajorPayne> envelope_from should be set to yes and from should be your email.
[09:52] <nahema> enybudy konw if sony vaio laptops suport ubunut 7.04?
[09:52] <jussi01> nahema: some do
[09:52] <nahema> i am interesed in ar series
[09:52] <jerbull88> jussi, why wouldnt they?
[09:52] <jussi01> !hardware | nahema
[09:52] <ubotu> nahema: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <hexstar> gordonjcp?
[09:53] <MajorPayne> osfameron: I am just looking at my .muttrc.  I hope that works for you (That's what I have).
[09:53] <jerbull88> bios?
[09:53] <hexstar> !bios
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <nahema> thanks all
[09:53] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yes!  that seems to work
[09:53] <jussi01> jerbull88: somehardware just doesnt work, some is an absolute pain.
[09:53] <majorjrk> iam just wondering, why cant ndiswrapper work for other then wifi cards, like webcams etc ?
[09:53] <hexstar> because ndiswrapper is only for wifi drivers
[09:53] <jerbull88> just curious
[09:54] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Good.
[09:54] <osfameron> MajorPayne: I also had 'set envelope_from' instead of 'set envelope_from="yes"', maybe that was from a different version of config... seems fine with that change and the use_from
[09:54] <majorjrk> hexstar: thanks for stating the obvious
[09:54] <hexstar> huh?
[09:54] <hexstar> oh
[09:54] <hexstar> well that's the reason why
[09:54] <SoulPropagation> Why am I banned from #-offtopic? Never even been there
[09:54] <thebigham> i need help =(
[09:54] <majorjrk> thats not what i asked, and that not the reason why
[09:54] <hexstar> lol
[09:54] <MajorPayne> osfameron: If I remember corretly "set envelope_from="yes"" is the same as "set envelope_from".  The same as unset and no.
[09:54] <thebigham> it says i ahve broken dependencies
[09:55] <thebigham> and i cant install anything
[09:55] <jussi01> SoulPropagation: jump into #ubuntu-ops and ask
[09:55] <osfameron> now if only I could work out how to get offlineimap to talk to fastmail.fm without crashing out, then I could go through the "fun" of setting up different accounts with the same address..
[09:55] <majorjrk> i mean, is it impossible or to hard to develop something that can use window driver for webcam like ndiswrapper work for wifi...
[09:55] <jussi01> thebigham: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:55] <hexstar> SoulPropagation: you probably have a dhcp assigned ip and your ip was banned from abuse by some other user
[09:55] <krinns> any one works on 3ware utility
[09:55] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:55] <krinns> command line
[09:55] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Ahh, I can't help you there.  Maybe #mutt may help.
[09:55] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yeah, that's waht I'd guessed.  In which case it's only the "use_from" setting that was missing (and the manual is then maybe incorrect?  or perhaps a system wide config somewhere disabled it?)
[09:55] <ExiledSoldier> I have a HDD with Windows and a HDD with Ubuntu and want to know how to be able to choose which OS to boot on startup.
[09:56] <jussi01> !grub | ExiledSoldier
[09:56] <ubotu> ExiledSoldier: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:56] <osfameron> MajorPayne: oh, good idea, ta!
[09:56] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Not sure, you can check your /etc/Muttrc
[09:56] <thebigham> jussi01: it says unable to lock the download directory
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  someone there
[09:56] <hexstar> hi
[09:56] <thebigham> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:56] <MajorPayne> osfameron: I am not Mutt expert.  I got it to do what I wanted it to do and I didn't touch it since.
[09:56] <piti> Hi everyone. I'd like to know if video acceleration is enabled or not with the (official) java plugin for firefox (libjavaplugin_oji.so)
[09:57] <hexstar> thebigham, you have to do sudo
[09:57] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yeah, that's my philosophy too :-)
[09:57] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:57] <jerbull88> exiled, normally when i do a dual boot it is on the same hard drive with different partitions
[09:57] <ihavenoname>  f
[09:57] <jussi01> !adeptfix | thebigham
[09:57] <ubotu> thebigham: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:57] <hexstar> ihavenoname: what? I don't know how to help you with 'f'
[09:57] <hexstar> did you mean f***? that's not appropiate for here
[09:58] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:58] <hexstar> what's pre-up?
[09:58] <hexstar> !pre-up
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pre-up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <jussi01> thebigham: that fix should work for a crashe synaptic also
[09:58] <thebigham>  beryl-plugins-unsupported-data depends on beryl-plugins-unsupported; however:
[09:58] <thebigham>   Package beryl-plugins-unsupported is not installed.
[09:58] <thebigham> dpkg: error processing beryl-plugins-unsupported-data (--configure):
[09:58] <thebigham>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:58] <thebigham> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:58] <thebigham>  beryl-plugins-unsupported-data
[09:58] <hexstar> use pastebin
[09:58] <Myrtti> thebigham: thank you for using pastebin the next time
[09:59] <Myrtti> !paste | thebigham
[09:59] <ubotu> thebigham: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:59] <jussi01> thebigham: #ubuntu-efffects for beryl stuff
[09:59] <thebigham> oh sorry =(
[09:59] <hexstar> -f
[09:59] <sniff_> my ubuntu network connection was down, how to up back, and my eth0: no link
[09:59] <jerbull88> sniff....in english?
[10:00] <hexstar> sniff: I think you do ifconfig eth0 up
[10:00] <MajorPayne> sniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up?
[10:00] <hexstar> ifconfig eth0 up
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> Do more people here use kde or gnome?
[10:01] <hexstar> kde :D
[10:01] <jerbull88> i use gnome
[10:01] <jerbull88> some kde apps tho
[10:01] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, why?
[10:01] <tsocks> Sulo_Seppa: KDE Rulezzz.. ;-)
[10:01] <togr> trying to stir up a religious war?
[10:01] <bullgard4> After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.
[10:01] <jerbull88> kde seems to be a little unstable
[10:01] <Myrtti> _Johny: thank you for the info. Please, turn that off.
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: It is very important
[10:01] <toogodoo> plz see a pastebin entry from toogodoo
[10:01] <hexstar> kde is more powerful
[10:01] <toogodoo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/
[10:02] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, why?
[10:02] <hexstar> he said it's very important
[10:02] <sniff_> hexstar: also cant, my result eth0: no link
[10:02] <jerbull88> kde= more features, less reliable gnome=less bells and whistles, more reliable
[10:02] <allan789> help
[10:02] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: Because we live in a post-9/11 world where even black people can get jobs. Understood?
[10:02] <allan789> help please
[10:02] <togr> hexstar, I saw that.  I was asking why it is important
[10:02] <hexstar> sniff: that means you have a cable connection loose somewhere, are you sure they're all solid and your router/hubs are up?
[10:02] <thebigham> noone would help me with my problem in ubuntu-effects
[10:02] <thebigham> =(
[10:03] <hexstar> sulo: are you racist?!
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> No
[10:03] <allan789> help 4 ubunto linux setup
[10:03] <hexstar> where even black people can get jobs ..
[10:03] <sauvin> I've had no trouble with KDE reliability, but I HAVE had gnome give me fits.
[10:03] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, will knowing the relative numbers of gnome and kde users in this channel help you or anyone else get a job?
[10:03] <jussi01> allan789: whats the problem?
[10:03] <Myrtti> please folks, take the offtopic someplace else
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: No, but we may face another terrorist attack
[10:03] <magnetron> !offtopic | Sulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar
[10:03] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:03] <Myrtti> this channel is for Ubuntu support
[10:03] <sniff_> MajorPayne: sniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up? <-- yes and how tu get normal back
[10:03] <hexstar> blacks aren't the terrorists, the iraqi's are
[10:04] <allan789> i have 2 computer
[10:04] <Myrtti> hexstar: please.
[10:04] <hexstar> kk
[10:04] <magnetron> !ops | Sulo_Seppa hexstar
[10:04] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa hexstar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:04] <allan789> ? is how can i connect the 2 of them
[10:04] <Myrtti> magnetron: too early
[10:04] <allan789> do i need server?
[10:04] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, you are very confused
[10:04] <sniff_> hexstar: switch are up
[10:04] <jussi01> !samba | allan789
[10:04] <ubotu> allan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:05] <MajorPayne> sniff_: I am not sure.  Been a long time sinse I done that.  I was just wondering if that is what your question was about.
[10:05] <Amaranth> Sulo_Seppa: #politics
[10:05] <hexstar> kicking isn't nice :P
[10:05] <jussi01> hexstar: well play by the rules then
[10:05] <hexstar> kk sorry, I said I was sorry
[10:05] <hexstar> and then stopped
[10:05] <allan789> no i mean ubunto to ubunto what is the proper installation to communicate my computer
[10:05] <sauvin> Allan, I'm on cable Internet, therefore cable modem. I bought a four-port router, and that's how I connect my computers.
[10:05] <Sulo_Seppa> Is awn in the repos?
[10:05] <allan789> i have 2 units
[10:05] <hexstar> allan789: install a nic, connect it to a hub or router
[10:06] <jussi01> !info awn
[10:06] <ubotu> Package awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:06] <thebigham> how can i unlock locked files
[10:06] <jerbull88> allan, crossover cable
[10:06] <hexstar> you can also use a crossover cable to connect them directly using two nics
[10:06] <magnetron> allan789: do you have network cards connected?
[10:06] <jussi01> Sulo_Seppa: I think it will be in gutsy
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Do you mean crossover?
[10:06] <allan789> i have router and hub
[10:06] <hexstar> but then you have to manually assign ips
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Like internet connection sharing.
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Then do you mean how can you trasfer files?
[10:07] <hexstar> allan789: ok use router, take modem with cable and put in wan port, put others in other ports...and you're done
[10:07] <toogodoo> lol
[10:07] <jerbull88> yay
[10:07] <hexstar> no need for a hub
[10:07] <allan789> k how can i share my files to another computer like in windows
[10:07] <sauvin> Configure the computers for DHCP for maximum hands-off convenience.
[10:07] <MajorPayne> allan789: If you want to know how how to transfer files try this: scp filenameToSend user@host:/directory/to/put/file
[10:07] <jerbull88> samba
[10:08] <jussi01> thebigham: did you try the command i gave you earlier?
[10:08] <hexstar> allan789: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
[10:08] <sauvin> Samba, I've heard isn't a no-brainer for configuring.
[10:08] <MajorPayne> NFS can be easy.
[10:08] <jussi01> !samba | allan789
[10:08] <ubotu> allan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:08] <MajorPayne> Don't use samba unless you have Windows.
[10:08] <jerbull88> theres a youtube video that will walk you through setting up samba
[10:09] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: No need to use Samba if he has no Windows install.
[10:09] <magnetron> allan789: you don't need samba
[10:09] <MajorPayne> I would suggest just using ssh or NFS.
[10:09] <hexstar> alan789: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[10:09] <allan789> jussi01 can i talk to u private pls.
[10:09] <MajorPayne> hexstar: Don't need samba, no Windows install.
[10:09] <kursed> i am an extremely new user to ubuntu (never used linux or any other OS apart from windows before) and need answers to a few basic questions. Would it be possible for anyone of you to help me out?
[10:09] <hexstar> oh
[10:09] <MajorPayne> !ask | kursed
[10:09] <ubotu> kursed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:09] <jussi01> allan789: no, I dont do private, ask here so everyone can benefit
[10:10] <allan789> k
[10:10] <sauvin> Kursed, it would be possible to ask.
[10:10] <hexstar> allan789: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4880
[10:10] <kursed> i wanted to know as to how can i log into my administrator account (/root)?
[10:10] <allan789> k this s wat im doing in my 2 computers
[10:10] <hexstar> ok this is a test of the emergency broadcast system
[10:10] <jerbull88> imn not touching root again
[10:10] <KaOS-bEat> hi all, when i booted my feisty this morning, it stopped after mountng the root disk and telling me there was no /sbin/init  :-(
[10:10] <MajorPayne> !sudo | kursed
[10:10] <ubotu> kursed: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:10] <magnetron> allan789: right click a folder and choose "share". when it ask for "samba" or "nfs", chooose nfs
[10:10] <jerbull88> i got in trouble last time
[10:10] <KaOS-bEat> I cannot even chroot into my old system
[10:10] <allan789> do i need setup or install my 1st units as server?
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> but the disk mounts fine
[10:11] <hexstar> kaos: sounds like you hosed your system
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> hextar: it does
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> but... can I fix it???
[10:11] <hexstar> backup your home directories and config files and do a reinstall
[10:11] <magnetron> allan789: any ubuntu pc can act as server, no need for the server cd
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> ok... you really think that's my only option
[10:12] <MajorPayne> KaOS-bEat: It doesn't sound good.
[10:12] <hexstar> well someone else might know of a way to replace the init script but I don't think that's easily doable
[10:12] <allan789> so i setup my 2 units just like an ordinary setup
[10:12] <hexstar> infact there probably is more then just the script that's broken
[10:12] <jussi01> allan789: yes
[10:12] <KaOS-bEat> can't I just copy /sbin and /bin from an feisty install CD?
[10:12] <magnetron> KaOS-bEat: there are the fsck command, it may be able to repair the disk
[10:13] <hexstar> KaOS-bEat: you could try, no garuntees though
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> magnetron: I already did that, it just says CLEAN
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> well, I'm downloading the iso right ow
[10:13] <hexstar> ok, keep us updated :)
[10:13] <magnetron> KaOS-bEat: did you remove any files last time? as root?
[10:13] <jerbull88> :)
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> it is great though that I can just pop in the dapper iso and ask for help on IRC!
[10:14] <allan789> magneton: in my another pc how can i browse the share folder
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> magnetron:  power outage
[10:14] <hexstar> I remember as a kid when my win 95 machine ran out of disk space...I deleted io.sys...XD
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> so te disk was prolly not ok
[10:14] <hexstar> that was fun :P
[10:14] <jerbull88> hahaha
[10:14] <kursed> thanks a lot for that link, how can i mount ISOs in ubunto? I've tried a couple of scripts but 1. my directory doesn't seem to have a scripts folder, 2. it doesnt let me copy scripts to bin folder saying that i do not enjoy sufficient privilidges
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> wel I have 9Gb free space left, W95 would crash on that fact alone (too much free space)
[10:15] <MajorPayne> kursed: Try ./scriptName
[10:15] <hexstar> kursed: http://steinsoft.net/index.php?site=Programming/Articles/linux-mountiso
[10:15] <berent>  there is a x64 vista dvd on bittorent.com as a beta release. does it have any problems
[10:15] <sauvin> Hexstar, I had a friend who'd bought and installed Stacker (bad old DOS days), and then went snooping around with Norton Commander, noticed a STACVOL.000 file that ate most of his disk, and deleted it. He had all KINDS of things to say about not being able to use his computer after that, none of it repeatable in polite company.
[10:15] <hexstar> berent: x64 linux support is not good
[10:15] <hexstar> use x86
[10:16] <furball> hello
[10:16] <hexstar> sauvin: LOL
[10:16] <Slart> berent: vista dvd?
[10:16] <furball> exit
[10:16] <kursed> thanks very much!
[10:16] <berent> Slart: yes . i just wanted to have dual boot for photoshop and things like that.
[10:16] <hexstar> I remember another 95 machine I had, I updated IE to something like 5 so the quick start icons in the left appeared...nothing opened anymore as explorer always faulted...
[10:16] <hexstar> kursed: np :)
[10:16] <Slart> berent: ah.. better ask some vista-people if it's any good then =)
[10:17] <MajorPayne> When I had Windows 95 I upgraded to Win 98 and borked my system.
[10:17] <KaOS-bEat> ok, so backing up my homedir...
[10:17] <berent> Slart: don't get offensive .
[10:17] <MajorPayne> Wasn't long after that I tried Linux.
[10:17] <hexstar> haha
[10:17] <hexstar> don't get me started on ME XD
[10:17] <jerbull88> NT
[10:18] <hexstar> my god they must've literally copied verbatum nt code right into 98 code and compiled it
[10:18] <Slart> berent: I'm not.. people in here usually don't like vista very much.. you might get better answers with.. ahem.. a more "vista friendly" crowd
[10:18] <jerbull88> i hated my old nt
[10:18] <hexstar> nt and 2k are the best os's M$ ever made imo
[10:18] <MajorPayne> !windows
[10:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:18] <magnetron> !offtopic | jerbull88 hexstar
[10:18] <hexstar> xp is me reborn, except it's done right
[10:18] <ubotu> jerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <kursed> when i open the terminal , does it matter if the prompt is ~$ or ~#?
[10:18] <berent> Slart: I am on ubuntu itself .but how do i run photoshop on it?
[10:19] <hexstar> oh oops...I went OT again sorry
[10:19] <MajorPayne> kursed: # means you have root privilages.  $ means norml user.
[10:19] <jerbull88> !windows
[10:19] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:19] <magnetron> hexstar: you are pushing it
[10:19] <kursed> got it!
[10:19] <hexstar> sorry
[10:19] <jerbull88> thats funny
[10:19] <Slart> berent: you can't.. not as far as I know.. I don't think gimp is a suitable replacement if you're going to use it in any advanced manner
[10:19] <magnetron> hexstar: don't be sorry, just stop it
[10:19] <hexstar> ok
[10:19] <bullgard4> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?
[10:20] <ari_stress> strange...., linus hasn't tried debian: http://www.oneopensource.it/interview-linus-torvalds/
[10:20] <hexstar> lol
[10:20] <jerbull88> why does my computer not physically power down after i go throught the shutdown process
[10:20] <Slart> berent: there is a "make gimp look like photoshop"-patch.. but I think it's just superficial.. haven't tried it myself though so don't take my word for it
[10:21] <jerbull88> i hear the hdd turn off but the power light stays on
[10:21] <hexstar> jerbull: bios is probably too old
[10:21] <jerbull88> i figured that
[10:21] <hexstar> try flashing a newer one
[10:21] <jerbull88> acpi
[10:21] <rohan> what is the name of hte program which is a GUI frontend to gconf ?
[10:21] <jerbull88> how do u flash the bios
[10:21] <tarzeau> jerbull88: using flashrom
[10:21] <magnetron> rohan: gconf-editor
[10:21] <rohan> magnetron: thanks :)
[10:21] <jerbull88> tarz, enlighten me
[10:21] <hexstar> your pc maker usually provides those tools for you jerbull88
[10:21] <tarzeau> jerbull88: packages.debian.org/flashrom
[10:22] <rohan> jerbull88: most pc manufacturers provide tools only for windows .. check it out
[10:22] <Ademan> what's the name of the default image viewer in GNOME?
[10:22] <Ademan> like the project name
[10:22] <Jordan_U> jerbull88, Eye of Gnome I think
[10:22] <hexstar> well, what it usually is is a flashing app and rom that runs in dos, just make a dos bootdisk and put the flash app and rom on the disk and go
[10:22] <Slart> jerbull88: I just updated my asus bios.. I had to get a freedos boot disk to do the upgrade from.. but it worked
[10:22] <Jordan_U> Ademan, , Eye of Gnome I think
[10:22] <hexstar> that's right
[10:23] <Jordan_U> jerbull88, Sorry, wrong nick on that last comment
[10:23] <Ademan> Jordan_U: thought so, but someone told me otherwise
[10:23] <hexstar> (slart)
[10:23] <Ademan> whoa, did someone ask the same question like right above me? lol
[10:23] <jerbull88> does it just read like a startup disk and flash from there
[10:23] <hexstar> well it boots to the A:\> prompt and then you type in the name of the flash executable, press enter and follow the prompts
[10:24] <jerbull88> keewl
[10:24] <Houdini_User> hello
[10:24] <hexstar> yep
[10:24] <hexstar> so find out who made your pc, go to their website...go to the support section and look for the drivers it should be there
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !hi | Houdini_User
[10:24] <ubotu> Houdini_User: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:24] <kursed> i am reading the link about getting root privildges but i just dont get it...isn't there like a simple command. entering which i can get root privilidges for a while?
[10:24] <Slart> switch "made your pc" for "made your motherboard"
[10:24] <Jordan_U> kursed, sudo
[10:25] <kursed> k
[10:25] <hexstar> well you could do that, most pc makers update the bios with their own splash screen and such tho
[10:25] <hexstar> and then release the updates through their website
[10:25] <Slart> kursed: sudo will only ask for the password the first time... then you can use it without password for some period of time.. 5 minutes perhaps?
[10:25] <hexstar> If you use the mobo's own bios you may void your warranty
[10:25] <Jordan_U> kursed, Just use sudo <command> or for GUI apps gksudo <command> and they will run as root
[10:25] <kursed> ok
[10:25] <Slart> hexstar: ah.. true.. disregard the motherboard thing
[10:25] <kursed> lemme try it :)
[10:25] <hexstar> Although the mobo makers bios usually is better because it isn't crippled
[10:26] <hexstar> but still, it's safer to go with the pc makers releases
[10:26] <berent> i have a 64 bit amd now and i have a generic and x86 versions of ubuntu . The generic runs properly but i want to know if x86 version runs also
[10:26] <orbisvicis> !et
[10:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:26] <hexstar> x86 should run fine
[10:27] <Houdini_User> anyone know if nero linux 3 will work with ubuntu?
[10:27] <jayde_drag0n> running ubuntu feisty live cd can someone please help me re-install grub?
[10:27] <hexstar> 64bit processors are x86 backwards compatible
[10:27] <Jordan_U> berent, You could try the liveCD, 64 bit can be hard if you use anything proprietary, either should work on your comp though
[10:27] <Jordan_U> !grub | jayde_drag0n
[10:27] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:28] <hexstar> [:)
[10:28] <JoshHendo> Does anyone know how to speed up FTP upload speeds? I am using gFTP at the moment and the speeds are extremely slow.
[10:28] <hexstar> you can't, your isp controls that
[10:28] <berent> Jordan_U : do u mean 64 bit supports 32 bit version also?
[10:29] <hexstar> JoshHendo: you can check with your isp to see if they have a higher bandwidth package though
[10:29] <Jordan_U> berent, I am not quite sure what you mean
[10:29] <kursed> ok the command is working now but the issue of mouting iso still remains, when i enter the command given in the link provided to me above, it says; no such file or directory?
[10:29] <ExiledSoldier> I just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  can anyone help me.
[10:29] <sauvin> I hear torrents are faster.
[10:29] <Jordan_U> berent, You can run 32 bit apps in 64 bit Ubuntu but it takes some work
[10:29] <hexstar> JoshHendo: see if you can get verizon fios, they offer the best upload speeds at very affordable prices
[10:30] <Slart> JoshHendo: how bad is extremely low? 2kb/s? worse?
[10:30] <JoshHendo> I am able to upload fine under Windows though, and anything else that requires uploading is fine
[10:30] <hexstar> kursed: I assume you're typing in the /mnt part exactly as the site says?
[10:30] <jayde_drag0n> i'm following the directions on ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351    and its not working for me...  the first step gave me an error.. the second step i get to the part of  sudo mount -t /dev/sda6 /mnt/root.... but sda6 is incorrect and i don't know what ii'm supposed to put there per my system
[10:30] <kursed> yep
[10:30] <hexstar> you need to make the dir first
[10:30] <hexstar> mkdir /dir/dir
[10:30] <JoshHendo> Slart, worse, if it does upload a file, it will have "Transfer Stalled" for ages
[10:30] <berent> Jordan_U : how do i know if i am running 32 bit of ubuntu or 64 bit since i am on generic
[10:30] <Slart> JoshHendo: doesn't sound like a ISP problem.. probably something else
[10:31] <Jordan_U> berent, the generic kernel is 32 bit
[10:31] <KaOS-bEat> berent: , I did that (32bit apps on my 64bit ubuntu, you need dchroot, and some scripts, and lots of hd-space, because you need to install 32bit libs as well
[10:31] <JoshHendo> I have heard that an encrypted wireless connection slows it down, which I do have, is that true?
[10:31] <hexstar> JoshHendo: that won't happen unless your computer is ancient
[10:31] <JoshHendo> ok
[10:31] <hexstar> e.g. 75mhz or slower
[10:31] <levander`> JoshHendo: the encrypted file might be a little bigger than the unencrypted file
[10:32] <KaOS-bEat> well about to leave reboot and reinstall bye all
[10:32] <berent> Jordan_U: is it? then it has some extensions to work as 64 bit. not a hardcore 64 kernel?
[10:32] <hexstar> ok later KaOS-bEat
[10:32] <JoshHendo> Ok
[10:32] <kursed> got it. hex can you tell me what does the following error mean? E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:32] <JoshHendo> Same problem as on this thread, though it doesn't seem to have a solution, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418165
[10:32] <BamBam> i'm looking for the answers to a study book called: wirelss communications & networks --- by william stallings second edition
[10:32] <BamBam> does anyone know where can i find it ?
[10:32] <hexstar> kursed: you got that when doing the mount command?
[10:32] <berent> KaOS:bEat: which version are you running. just tell me what u get when u do uname -r
[10:32] <kursed> nope, when installing a package
[10:32] <ExiledSoldier> I just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  anyone know whats wrong?
[10:32] <levander> BamBam: you tried Amazon?  Abebooks?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> berent, No there is a 32 bit and 64 bit version of Ubuntu, you are running the 32 bit version, the 64 bit version uses a 64 bit kernel and programs
[10:32] <levander> BamBam: Contact the publisher.
[10:32] <kursed> rather every package that i install i am getting this error.
[10:33] <hexstar> oh...try doing a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that package installs ok and then try again kursed
[10:33] <kursed> the install is just fine
[10:33] <kursed> the program works
[10:33] <kursed> but it does give me this error.
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: the publisher only gives it to lecturers
[10:33] <levander> ExiledSoldier: sounds like grub didn't recognize the disk's boot image it was supposed to load
[10:33] <kursed> at the time of installation
[10:33] <levander> BamBam: tell him you're a lecturer
[10:33] <Jordan_U> kursed, Can you pastebin the error it gives?
[10:33] <hexstar> yeah, do a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that installs ok
[10:33] <levander> BamBam: it's called social engineering
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: but there must be copies of it on the net
[10:33] <Houdini_User> someone said...to run windows app in ubuntu (like world of warcraft)...I need Wine...can anyone point me in the right direction for that?
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: :)
[10:33] <ExiledSoldier> levander: how can I fix it?
[10:33] <kursed> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[10:33] <kursed> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:33] <kursed> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:34] <berent> Jordan_U: yes .that's why the speed of booting kernel hasn't changed even when my ram and processor has gone 4 times higher
[10:34] <levander> BamBam: check piratesbay.org and emule (amule under Linux)
[10:34] <Jordan_U> !appdb | Houdini_User
[10:34] <ubotu> Houdini_User: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[10:34] <Houdini_User> cool..thanks
[10:34] <hexstar> kursed...hmm not sure
[10:34] <BamBam> levander: ok 10x , just thougth it may be easier to check here first
[10:34] <hexstar> never encountered that before
[10:34] <levander> ExiledSoldier: grub is one of those pains that people only look into once in a while, think you need to read the docs, easiest docs would probably be a step-by-step re-installing on Ubuntu.  Check wiki.ubuntu.com.
[10:34] <hexstar> sorry
[10:34] <kursed> np
[10:34] <kursed> :D
[10:35] <kursed> thanks a lot for the help though
[10:35] <Jordan_U> berent, I don't think that the reason for that is that you aren't using 64 bit, more likely the bottleneck at boot is IO
[10:35] <hexstar> kursed: np
[10:35] <Houdini_User> is wine something difficult to configure?
[10:35] <hexstar> kursed: try apt-get -f
[10:36] <berent> Jordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?
[10:36] <hexstar> oops I meant apt-get install -f
[10:36] <Jordan_U> Houdini_User, It depends, if the application you are trying to use works then there is no config needed, if not it can require a little or a lot of hacking depending
[10:36] <ExiledSoldier> levander: I didn't have my Windows HDD plugged in when I installed Ubuntu, could this be the problem?
[10:36] <amaina> ok just like this how can find the share folder
[10:37] <jayde_drag0n> look really... not helping me i don't knwo what i'm doing.. and what i'm typing is obviously not working.. its just giving me an informational output
[10:37] <levander> ExiledSoldier: Do you get that disk error after you select to boot Windows, or before any option is given on what to boot?
[10:37] <amaina> my os is ubunto
[10:37] <berkes> what tool or app is used to create the fstab file (and associcated hibernate storage places etc) on install of kubuntu?
[10:37] <amaina> then my client is ubunto to
[10:37] <levander> ExiledSoldier: is your computer recognizing both hard drives?  (can check in the BIOS)
[10:37] <hexstar> *ubuntu
[10:37] <hexstar> exiledsoldier: check hd jumpers
[10:37] <kursed> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <kursed> Building dependency tree
[10:37] <kursed> Reading state information... Done
[10:37] <kursed> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:37] <kursed> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[10:37] <kursed> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:37] <kursed> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:37] <Jordan_U> !paste | kursed
[10:37] <ubotu> kursed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <hexstar> you have to do su before
[10:37] <levander> berkes: fstab is pretty simple, they probably just have a very quickie app that generates it
[10:38] <amaina> help plesase
[10:38] <hexstar> su apt-get install -f
[10:38] <ExiledSoldier> levander: before grub loads.  I'll check BIOS to see if it recognizes.
[10:38] <kursed> sorry!
[10:38] <Houdini_User> sometimes...this chat is a little too fast to keep up with :)
[10:38] <berent> !pastebin > kursed
[10:38] <Jordan_U> kursed, Close synaptic
[10:38] <hexstar> kursed: su apt-get install -f
[10:38] <levander> kursed: that means you're doing something with apt somewhere else, you can't access the apt repositories twice at the same time
[10:38] <Jordan_U> hexstar, Ubuntu uses sudo
[10:38] <berkes> levander: it is *supposed* to be simple, yes. But these friggin UUIDs make it a hell to fix manually :)
[10:38] <amaina> help
[10:38] <berent> Jordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?
[10:38] <levander> hexstar: Why did you start using su instead of sudo?
[10:38] <amaina> i am new in ubunto
[10:39] <Jordan_U> berent, Reading from the drive
[10:39] <VSpike> What mechanism provides a drop down history of text in fields in firefox?  Is that part of firefox, or part of gnome?
[10:39] <berkes> somehow the last changes in (k)ubuntu switched between sda and hda (No hardware changed!)
[10:39] <amaina> my problem is how can i share my files
[10:39] <levander> berent: vol_id is the command that tells you the UUID of a drive
[10:39] <hexstar> I've always used su, sudo is fine too though either works
[10:39] <ExiledSoldier> hexstar: jumpers was what I thought, unfortunately I can't see them and need to wait till tomorrow to remove the HDD.
[10:39] <amaina> what im gonna do ples. help
[10:39] <hexstar> usually
[10:39] <VSpike> And more importantly, how do i clear it or disable it
[10:39] <Jordan_U> !uuid | berkes
[10:39] <ubotu> berkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:39] <hexstar> ExiledSoldier: ah
[10:39] <amaina> i have 2 units
[10:39] <jayde_drag0n> please i've been at this for over 30 hrs now.. with people ignoring me everytime i tell them.. sorry i don't understand you... can someone please just help me?? i know that this is simple to you.. but to me i'm ready to either cry or throw it out the window
[10:39] <amaina> d os of them is ubunto with gui
[10:39] <berent> Jordan_U:  so you mean i have to upgrade hard disk!
[10:40] <hexstar> lol...jayde_drag0n if you don't want it just mail it to me :D
[10:40] <amaina> hey help me pls.
[10:40] <Bane> Hello I am new to ubuntu, I have Windows XP installed on C: and all the rest of my files installed on D:   how can I install ubuntu without formatting a new partition?
[10:40] <berkes> Jordan_U: I know the rationale. Have followed all this closely. Still. All I need is a way to easily fix both my ubuntu systems so that they have swap and hibernate when booting :)
[10:40] <berent> levander : for what is that required?
[10:40] <Jordan_U> berent, Why is boot speed so important, you should hardly ever need to reboot
[10:40] <hexstar> bane: you'll need to use something like partition magic to make freespace for ubuntu
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> hexsar... i am to take that as... no you'd rather laugh at me than just help me reinstall grub?
[10:40] <VSpike> jayde_drag0n: what's the quesiton?
[10:40] <levander> berent: To tell fstab about drives you need the UUID's.  But, I'd really read that link ubotu put out there if I were you.
[10:40] <berent> Jordan_U:  for my own knowledge
[10:40] <Jordan_U> berkes, You don't have to use UUID's, you can configure it manually with /dev/whatever
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> Vspike... i just need to reinstall grub
[10:41] <kursed> !ipastebin
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipastebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> and i don't understand these commands to figure out what to type where
[10:41] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: no, not laughing at you just trying to have some fun...get rid of the stress :)
[10:41] <berkes> Jordan_U: thats what I did. Being stubborn and all.
[10:41] <kursed> !paste
[10:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:41] <VSpike> jayde_drag0n: reinstall in what sense... what is the problem?
[10:41] <berkes> however, ubuntu would break my disks on upgrade then.
[10:41] <berent> levander: i think you were answering berkes . not me
[10:41] <Bane> hexstar: does partition magic come with magic iso? i know ive seen it somewhere before
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> i'm sorry hexsar.. i really am about to cry i'm so frustrated... irts really none of you guyss fault... i'm just upset
[10:41] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  gives you (complete) step by step instructions
[10:41] <levander> berkes: see my last answer to berent
[10:41] <hexstar> no, it's a seperate product
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> flannel
[10:41] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: unlike the hit and miss of the forums
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> i know.. i'm rthere
[10:41] <hexstar> bane: no it's a seperate product
[10:42] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: do you have a specific question then?  What are you having trouble figuring out?
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> but i domn'?t know wjhat hda hdf hdg to type!!!
[10:42] <levander> jayde_drag0n: if you're that upset, forget about it, take a break, it's too detailed of work to do when you're ticked
[10:42] <Bane> thanks hexstar
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> \iu can;'t fighure it out\
[10:42] <berkes> levander: is blkid used to create the data in fstab on install?
[10:42] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, Have you tried following the instructions on the wiki?
[10:42] <hexstar> bane: np
[10:42] <Bane> when i update drivers on ubuntu, and im booting from the cd.. it doesnt save it does it
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> i am following the instructions
[10:42] <levander> berkes: I haven't seen the code, but I'd bet it is.
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> but i can't figure out my output to know which ... hda.. hdg.. hdf.. hd1
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> to type
[10:42] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: The first instruction you see on that page explains/walks you through determining it.
[10:42] <levander> berkes: Oh, not all the data probably.  But, it's probably used as part of the data gathering process.
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> i got it wrong
[10:43] <Jordan_U> Bane, No, but you can chroot into your system if you need to update it from the liveCD
[10:43] <kursed> hex - su didn't work so had to use sudo... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30417/
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> i'm obviously that stupid.. i thought it was hda
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> but that says ntfs
[10:43] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: you can use pdisk
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> not my linux install
[10:43] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: Right.  Which one is ext3?
[10:43] <hexstar> or kfredisk
[10:43] <berkes> levander: yea. investigating this now. I would loooove some sort of apt-get reinstall fstab or so
[10:43] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, The instructions on the wiki tell you how to find what (hd,X) you need
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> okay its being laggy gimme a minute to read
[10:43] <berent> Jordan_U:  for my own knowledge
[10:44] <Bane> well i try to go to desktop effects, and it says update nvidia driver.. then i restart and it says it again..  i just assumed it didnt save it, is that correct?
[10:44] <levander> berkes: it's not a complicated file, it's pretty basic as far as UNIX config files go
[10:44] <Flannel> Bane: restart X, (ctrl-alt-backspace) not the whole system
[10:44] <berkes> levander: yea. however, the issue is mainly the associated hibernate and wakeup settings.
[10:44] <jayde_drag0n> whats the ubuntu paste thingy i'll paste what i'm looking at
[10:44] <Flannel> !paste | jayde_drag0n
[10:44] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:44] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: pastebin.com
[10:44] <Bane> thanks flannel
[10:45] <levander> berkes: There are lots of problems with power management in Linux.  I just turned it off and said screw it.  Good luck if you decide to brave that.
[10:45] <thebigham> i have just reinstalled beryl and along with emerald, but for some reason when i click on a theme on emerald, it doesnt work.
[10:45] <thebigham> can anyone help?
[10:45] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[10:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Bane, Note that if you run the installer from the LiveCD while using the nvidia drivers it won't configure X correctly on the install
[10:45] <levander> berkes: I'd be doing some bug searches on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu to get that working
[10:45] <hexstar> thebigham: I never got themes to work either :(
[10:45] <thebigham> i have asked this question on beryl and the ubuntu-effects channel, but noone would help =(
[10:45] <berkes> levander: well, it works fine for me. (IBM to the maxxx) but the problem was fsked UUIDs during hte last two upgrades.
[10:46] <Jordan_U> thebigham, Try reloading emerald?
[10:46] <amaina> hey wats up here
[10:46] <levander> berkes: Cool, if it's worked on your hardware before, you've got much better chance than most.
[10:46] <thebigham> i think i might have missed something
[10:46] <hexstar> nothing much amaina, just some geeks :)
[10:46] <amaina> ? s d procedure by copying files
[10:46] <berkes> after that I manually added my swap /dev/sda5 to several files. But I't prefer to bring this back in step w. ubuntus uuids
[10:46] <thebigham> cause the samething happens at the first time, and someone at ubuntu-effects helped me out
[10:46] <hexstar> amaina: man cp
[10:46] <thebigham> but he wasnt there this time =(
[10:46] <Flannel> !uuid | berkes
[10:47] <ubotu> berkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:47] <amaina> man cp wats that? im new in ubunto
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: bot?
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Jordan_U> Oooops, Yes
[10:47] <berkes> Flannel: thanks, already got that from levander :9
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: google bot
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <hexstar> amaina: it tells you how to use cp which is the command used to copy files
[10:47] <amaina> hexstar ilove u pls. help
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: help cp
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Oooops> ubotu: weather
[10:48] <berkes> obuto should learn to not tell the same factoid twice to one user.
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Flannel> !botabuse | Oooops
[10:48] <ubotu> Oooops: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:48] <Jordan_U> !msgthebot ?
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Ayabara> what can I use to push files via bluetooth to my cellphone?
[10:48] <Oooops> how to operate on this bot? Flannel
[10:48] <hexstar> !dancewithbot
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dancewithbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <berkes> Oooops: could you please message the bot in private. this is annoying
[10:48] <berent> how do we mount an iso with an emulator ?
[10:48] <Flannel> Oooops: maybe you should check out the webpage it's giving you.  And take it to #ubuntu-bots
[10:48] <berent> iso
[10:48] <Oooops> oo
[10:48] <berent> !iso
[10:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:49] <Oooops> ok
[10:49] <levander> What are those funny A char's in ubotu's output?     This is only channel where people are assuming you've got Unicode.
[10:52] <Oooops> if anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?
[10:52] <MajorPayne> Amaranth: Huh?
[10:52] <bain> levander: yes I know that .. but for instance .. postfix .. I need to do the install and setup the server as sattilite with settings in a script .. witghout user input ...
[10:52] <PriceChild> Oooops, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:52] <hexstar> maybe she likes you MajorPayne :)
[10:52] <kurse1> i can't seem to use the direct copy command (even with sudo)... so .... what should i be doing?
[10:53] <PriceChild> MajorPayne, your tab completion went wrong
[10:53] <Oooops> something about ubuntu. PriceChild
[10:53] <togr> MajorPayne, you asked Amaranth to be family friendly.  I think you meant amaina
[10:53] <levander> bain: Look at the Ubuntu "alternate" install CD.  I think that's what you're looking for.  Not sure.
[10:53] <thebigham> can someone please help me get emerald theme working please
[10:53] <Jordan_U> kurse1, What is the exact command you are running and what is the error?
[10:53] <hexstar> what are you trying to copy kurse1?
[10:53] <MajorPayne> PriceChild: Ohh, Amaranth: yea, sorry, lol.
[10:53] <levander> bain: Oh wait, you're not setting up the whole server, just a package.
[10:53] <kurse1> i want to copy two scripts from my home folder to a root folder /scripts
[10:54] <kurse1> i made the folder
[10:54] <bain> lancetw: yes ...
[10:54] <hexstar> ok, what does it say when you try the cp?
[10:54] <berent> why doen't amd give linux drivers for it's card?
[10:54] <kurse1> now i need to transfer the scripts there
[10:54] <levander> bain: Do you want to keep the configuration of the whole machines similar, or just package by package?
[10:54] <Oooops> if anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?  some trouble here under ubuntu.
[10:54] <levander> Oooops: just ask
[10:54] <zenum> hey, does anyone here have an nvidia 8500 or 8600 graphics card? I am thinking of getting one and just want to know if I can expect to get full 3d support with it in ubuntu?
[10:54] <bain> lancetw: I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..
[10:54] <amonkey> firefox locks up on me (about half of hte time) when i close a tab that has flash on it, what direction should i look in to find out why?
[10:54] <Flannel> Oooops: you might check the forums (ubuntuforums.org) there's a lot of stuff on ET
[10:54] <Oooops> but seems no one knows.
[10:54] <zenum> Or is there somewhere on the net which has a list of currently supported graphic cards?
[10:54] <kurse1> manually (graphically!) it says that i dont enjoy sufficient priviliges so i wanted to know the exact command to transfer files from one folder to another
[10:55] <hexstar> kurse1: ok whatdoes it say when you try the cp operation?
[10:55] <Oooops> ok.
[10:55] <hexstar> oh
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: Do you have flash installed?
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: I meant Flash 9 installed?
[10:55] <hexstar> try "su cp /soruce /dest"
[10:55] <kurse1> hex  - i dont know the copy command in linux... i guess that's my issue :)
[10:55] <Jordan_U> zenum, Nvidia provides great drivers ( though intel's are better... )
[10:55] <kurse1> ok
[10:55] <hexstar> cp is the command to copy
[10:55] <amonkey> levander, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[10:55] <Jordan_U> !bash | kurse1
[10:55] <ubotu> kurse1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: From the Ubuntu repositories you installed that one?
[10:55] <berent> why doen't amd give linux drivers for it's inbuilt nvidia card?
[10:56] <bain> levander : I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..
[10:56] <hexstar> berent: why not try nvidia's drivers?
[10:56] <levander> berent: Because they don't feel like they'll make enough money doing that.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> kurse1, That should be a good guide if you want to learn more about how to use the terminal
[10:56] <amonkey> levander, it's from the repos yeah
[10:56] <zenum> Jordan_U: so pretty much any nvidia card should work fine with propriety drivers?
[10:56] <KaOS-bEat> hi all, overwrinting /bin/ sbin didn't work... -> reinstalling
[10:56] <hexstar> I would assume so zenum
[10:56] <reed026> I have lost sound in ubuntu, I tried turning up the mic from alsamixer. That didn't work. Then I tried the System -> preferences -> sound to correct that problem, and it did not work neither.
[10:56] <levander> bain: I don't know of a way to do that.  Why don't you try asking in #debian.  It's less of a basic end-user community in there.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> zenum, AFIK yes
[10:56] <PriceChild> zenum, 8***'s won't work well with the drivers in ubuntu
[10:56] <yinghao_> hi
[10:57] <kurse1> ok i'll read more into it, thanks for the help folks
[10:57] <kurse1> thanks alot!
[10:57] <levander> bain: Don't tell them you're using Ubuntu.
[10:57] <PriceChild> zenum, but will if you get the drivers from nvidia itself
[10:57] <hexstar> kurse1: np, glad to help :)
[10:57] <kurse1> yep, the command worked as well :)
[10:57] <zenum> Excellent :) I don't mind getting my hands dirty, as long as the end result includes pretty 3d shapes :)
[10:57] <hexstar> glad to her that :)
[10:57] <hexstar> kurse1
[10:57] <hexstar> *hear
[10:58] <hexstar> zenum: lol...never! All you'll ever get are blocky figures! :P
[10:58] <Jordan_U> bain, They really don't like Ubuntu users asking questions in #debian, I don't know how good that advice is...
[10:58] <yinghao_> can is ask you guys something?
[10:58] <hexstar> yes
[10:58] <yinghao_> is=i
[10:58] <bain> levander: thanks
[10:58] <levander> Jordan_U: what they don't know won't hurt them
[10:58] <berent> levander hexstar : anyways our ubuntu restricted drivers have  got it running . but it's restricted. i don't know why . all these mobos processors and graphic cards always have a deal with windows . well is there any linux oriented vendors.
[10:58] <yinghao_> i was wondering what's the best way to get latex up and running with ubuntu
[10:58] <hexstar> apt-get install latex
[10:59] <yinghao_> deosnt work
[10:59] <levander> Jordan_U: It would be different if he weren't asking the type of questions they talk about all the time.
[10:59] <Jordan_U> levander, But if they ask for output...
[10:59] <amonkey> levander, any idea?
[10:59] <hexstar> yinghao_: paste output to pastebin.com please
[10:59] <yinghao_> and i also like to get i working including a lot of latex packages
[10:59] <levander> Jordan_U: If they find out, they find out, it's not a big deal getting caught.  They may bitch, they may not.
[10:59] <yinghao_> hextar: how?
[10:59] <yeniklasor> Hi. How can I open ubuntu server edition's desktop?
[10:59] <hexstar> !paste | yinghao_
[10:59] <ubotu> yinghao_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <Weiss> yinghao_: apt-cache search tetex and install some of those packages (can't remember which ones you need)
[11:00] <hexstar> I think apt-get install tetex* might work too
[11:00] <magnetron> yinghao_: install texmaker or winefish
[11:00] <sauvin> Berent, you are dealing with one of the few downsides of using Linux: hardware support can lag quite a bit behind Windows because most major manufacturers either fear giving away proprietary information or not garnering enough bottom-line profits.
[11:00] <yinghao_> ok
[11:00] <reed026> yeniklasor: Ubuntu Server does not have a GUI desktop
[11:00] <hexstar> lol
[11:00] <yinghao_> it seems i already have tetex
[11:01] <hexstar> that's good :)
[11:01] <reed026> You will need to install Xfce, GNOME or KDE
[11:01] <berent> sauvin : but we are paying the same money right?
[11:01] <yinghao_> but wich packages do i need to get it running
[11:01] <hexstar> I've gotta head to bed, later guys.
[11:01] <corevette> how do you find out the command to your router....to edit a firewall
[11:01] <sauvin> No. The major manufacturers would indeed appear to be in bed with MS.
[11:01] <berent> hexstar : to meet amaina :-))
[11:02] <hexstar> corevette: you can't unless your router can support ssh
[11:02] <hexstar> later
[11:02] <yinghao_> i think tetex extra and tetex base?
[11:02] <berent> sauvin : he he
[11:02] <magnetron> corevette: usually it's http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ or http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[11:02] <corevette> but on windows
[11:02] <yeniklasor> reed026 : sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop ?
[11:02] <corevette> you can do ipconfig
[11:02] <corevette> why cant you do somehting like that on linux
[11:02] <sauvin> It may amuse you somewhat to learn that Vista apparently has horrendous hardware compatibility problems :D
[11:02] <Thursley> corevette, ifconfig
[11:02] <corevette> where does it say the router in ifconfig?
[11:03] <Thursley> corevette, aah, good point. Try <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <berent> sauvin : it is obvious if they try overdoing profits. they are going to get ripped off left and right.
[11:03] <PriceChild> corevette, from: Bcast:<ip here>
[11:03] <PriceChild> corevette, on the interface you're using
[11:03] <sauvin> Berent, no, it isn't.
[11:04] <PriceChild> oh wait
[11:04] <PriceChild> no
[11:04] <sauvin> How do you rip off a graphics card?
[11:04] <berent> sauvin : i was talking about windows vista
[11:04] <magnetron> corevette: it's called route
[11:04] <Tarsinion> Hi all ... ive just installed beryl and everything is working perfectly. Now i would like to change the theme but i can not start emerald via console: root@richard-laptop:/home/richard# emerald
[11:04] <Tarsinion> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[11:04] <sauvin> Oh, THAT. If its rep is at all deserved, it simply won't be popular for quite a while.
[11:04] <magnetron> corevette: type route in a terminal
[11:04] <Tarsinion> Any Idear ?
[11:05] <PriceChild> Tarsinion, #ubuntu-effects please
[11:05] <Tarsinion> :PrinceChild sorry! .. :-)
[11:06] <berent> sauvin : i changed proc mobo and ubuntu generic got everything running in seconds. i had to reconfigure vga and it was done.
[11:06] <tuna-fish> What was the bash command that told what kind of kernel is running?
[11:06] <sauvin> Congratulations. Do the same for Vista, please.
[11:06] <magnetron> tuna-fish: lsb_release -a
[11:06] <orbisvicis> !find sauerbraten
[11:06] <PriceChild> tuna-fish, uname -r
[11:06] <HEP85> Tarsinion: I think you shouldn't run it as root. Furthermore use --replace option, in case there is already a decorator running
[11:07] <ubotu> Package/file sauerbraten does not exist in feisty
[11:07] <bullgard4> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?
[11:07] <PriceChild> tuna-fish, uname -a gives more actually...
[11:07] <Tarsinion> HEP85: let me try, thanks!
[11:07] <tuna-fish> Thanks
[11:07] <berent> sauvin : but i don't want to buy vista for so much money. it simply doesn't deserve
[11:08] <sauvin> And so you deal with linux' lagging hardware support, as do I. Is it worth it? I think so. YMMV.
[11:08] <magnetron> !support
[11:08] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:09] <sauvin> Right now I'm busy downloading what would be several tens of thousands of dollars' worth of software from a site no DoJ weenie can ever shut down because none of it is commercial.
[11:09] <magnetron> !piracy
[11:09] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:10] <berent> sauvin : what is that? pm me . he he
[11:10] <sauvin> It's not piracy. I'm grabbing it from synaptics package manager.
[11:10] <sauvin> No special repositories.
[11:10] <magnetron> sauvin: nice
[11:10] <berent> magnetron : are you a capitalist?
[11:11] <magnetron> !o4o | berent
[11:11] <ubotu> berent: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[11:11] <Panic> I want to do some C programming on Ubuntu 7.04 with gcc, but it seems like the libraries are missing like stdio.h. Anyone know what I should do??
[11:11] <orbisvicis> !info sauerbraten
[11:11] <ubotu> Package sauerbraten does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> mmm
[11:11] <Houdini_User> what is a good torrent client...to run in ubuntu?  im very comfortable with utorrent under windows
[11:11] <orbisvicis> explain : http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/games/sauerbraten
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> !openarena
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <orbisvicis> oh, gutsy
[11:11] <Wiseguy> hey guys, has anyone ever used ViaVoice?
[11:11] <magnetron> Houdini_User: deluge
[11:11] <orbisvicis> !et
[11:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:11] <magnetron> !deluge | Houdini_User
[11:11] <ubotu> Houdini_User: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[11:11] <sauvin> Panic, in a terminal window, do this: gcc -dumpver
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> very cool game in synaptic or add/remove
[11:12] <Houdini_User> cool..thanks  magnetron
[11:12] <Tarsinion> HEP85: thanks thats working .. but i'm not sure why it is working ;-)
[11:12] <berent> magentron : capitalism is related to software licensing. that's why i asked.
[11:12] <PriceChild> berent, You are offtopic for this channel. Please stop.
[11:12] <berent> ok
[11:13] <Panic> it says "gcc: no input files"
[11:13] <elTigre> Hi
[11:14] <elTigre> I'd like to have 3D acceleration on my external monitor that I have connected to a laptop (i810)
[11:14] <reed026> wow I figured out my sound problem. I'm so dumb. hahaha. I had it muted. Had to add volume control to my panel and unmute it :D
[11:14] <Panic> it is gcc 4.1, when I write --help
[11:15] <marmer> hy
[11:15] <elTigre> so far I haven't succeeded.... I set the resolution to 16 bit (although I have no way to figure out if it really is 16 bit)
[11:15] <sauvin> Panic, if you get that far, you have gcc installed, and therefore you DO have stdio.h.
[11:15] <Panic> ohh
[11:15] <marmer> in a terminal how can I see if i'm using ALSA or other. please
[11:16] <Tarsinion> HEP85: okay, you helped me a lot futher ... thanks and cu !
[11:16] <Panic> so how come when I do a "hallo world" program the compiler complains about stdio.h unknown?
[11:17] <magnetron> Panic: did you install the package build-essential?
[11:17] <marmer>   ?
[11:17] <RELO> OMG
[11:17] <Panic> I will check
[11:18] <bullgard4> After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.
[11:20] <RELO> FUCK FUCK FUCK why cant this program WORK?
[11:21] <PriceChild> !ohmy | RELO
[11:21] <ubotu> RELO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Feisty 32-bit & gnome: after suspend or hibernate, many times there is no keyboard input to unlock gnome-screensaver, but there is if I switch to a new session, or switch to a terminal... any ideas how to solve it?
[11:23] <Jordan_U_> IntuitiveNipple, Do you have mouse input?
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Jordan_U: Yes
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> I've checked a few launchpad bugs but none of them address this issue, it seems
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Its intermittent too - about 7 times out of 10 it does this, the others, it works fine. So far the only work-around is to disable screen-locking on resume
[11:25] <ubutom> hi. i have a second x-server for playing videos, etc on my tv. xinerama is activated. can someone point me to the syntax i have to use to start a program on the second x-server, without dragging it over?
[11:27] <NetJackal> Hi all
[11:27] <gordonjcp> how do I find what package provides a particular file?
[11:27] <magnetron> ubutom: some apps accept the -display option
[11:28] <ubutom> ty magnetron
[11:28] <ubutom> will look into that :)
[11:28] <kagemaro> Anyone - I'm using an Intel HDA chipset (Realtek, Toshiba laptop) and the sound is really quiet - I have the newest ALSA driver and have set the type to intel-snd-hda; model to toshiba. PCM is on 100% in alsa mix, physical volume is 100% and volume on my program is 100%. I can't change the master volume (it just comes up at 00 on alsamix). The sound is PLAYING but less than 20% of the volume I get on Windows.
[11:29] <gsuveg> i cant install ispconfig to ubuntu, somone installed it ?
[11:30] <kursed> hey again, i am back with a new issue :)
[11:30] <marmer>     how can I turn off consoles tt3 tt4 tt5, in inittab
[11:30] <marmer> ?
[11:30] <kursed> i've just added a usb hdd to my computer and i am not being allowed to write on it, citing insufficient privelidges ...
[11:31] <stefg> !upstart | marmer, no inittab any more
[11:31] <ubotu> marmer, no inittab any more: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:31] <kursed> i can read from the hdd, but can't write on it, how can i correct that?
[11:31] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Not sure if this will lead to any useful info but how load is it when you run this ( *warning could be very loud* ): cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[11:31] <marmer> !upstart
[11:31] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:32] <sauvin> Kursed, I can't remember precisely how to do that just now; I used to edit fstab, but that may be a mistake in modern flavours of linux :\
[11:32] <marmer> thank
[11:32] <kursed> sauvin, ah ok - it's just that i am newbie, never have used an OS other than Windows.
[11:32] <kursed> so i am having a hard time setting it up :)
[11:33] <kagemaro>  /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, Jordan_U
[11:33] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, ?
[11:33] <sauvin> The command you want to look at is mount. At a terminal window, do an "info mount" (without the quotes)
[11:33] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Close any programs that are playing anything
[11:34] <kismet> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3389/phpsysinfo/ < could someone tell if that memory usage is normal
[11:34] <kagemaro> Jordan_U: Still the same message
[11:35] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Basically what we are doing is sending a random stream of bits directly to your sound card, this won't work if anything else is trying to use it
[11:35] <kursed> sauvin, using the mount command with my hdd , it gives me the following error, can't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:35] <kursed> can't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:35] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?
[11:35] <majorjrk> I got this digital cam, can copy every execept 2 movies at 20 and 60mb, everything else goes down, is this probably a limitation of my cam, or usb or something else wrong ?
[11:35] <stefg> kismet: see the value for Cache: 69% . this is healthy, the kernel takes your ram to good use
[11:36] <kismet> stefg, okay thankyou :)
[11:36] <kismet> its just scary seeing 98% being used :/
[11:36] <marmer> which is command line for upstart?
[11:36] <jayde_drag0n> okay i completely froze
[11:36] <kagemaro> Jordan_U, nothing else is using the sound card
[11:36] <jayde_drag0n> and finally after cleaning the disk.. now my computer is responsive
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: What is the output from the command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep 'Default Amp-Out'
[11:36] <stefg> kismet: /unused/ ram is wasted ram :-) so the kernel is employing it for something useful
[11:37] <jayde_drag0n> can someone please paste the link to the ububtu paste thingy again?
[11:37] <CheesyMonkey> !paste | jayde_drag0n
[11:37] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Something is, whether it is making sounds currently or not
[11:37] <jayde_drag0n> i will  thanks i'll be back in a minute
[11:37] <marmer> do you know
[11:38] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?
[11:38] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
[11:38] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: haha! Houston, you have a problem :p
[11:39] <HEP85> kagemaro: type "fuser /dev/dsp" and you will be shown what is using the sound card
[11:39] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: I don't understand how it can be muted, but the sound still plays?
[11:39] <kagemaro> HEP85 - fuser /dev/dsp returns nothing
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: It isn't, thats the capability, but, all those zero's mean the default amp-out is the *wrong* one
[11:39] <runescaper> hi
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: So, we need to work out which is the correct one and how to select it
[11:39] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: Right... so how do I sort that out? x.x
[11:40] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: I'm on a Toshiba Satellite A100-225 laptop
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: You ask all the easy questions :D
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: you've used flash (youtube)?
[11:40] <kagemaro> Myrtti - yes, it was quiet
[11:40] <runescaper> does anyone here know any yogurt making recipes?
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: restart your browser
[11:40] <snowblink> 6.06 just got kernel updates?
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: the flash is probably still using the sound device
[11:41] <Myrtti> !offtopic | runescaper
[11:41] <ubotu> runescaper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:41] <magnetron> runescaper: maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic does. please join us there
[11:41] <runescaper> ok where ?
[11:41] <marmer> does someone knows how i can turn-off tty1 tty2 etc..
[11:41] <marmer> virtualconsole i don't use often
[11:41] <jayde_drag0n> okay here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/   here is what i THOUGHT was my primary drive  /dev/hdg1    here is what occurs when i type the other stuff...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/   which is the stuff i'm following from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Capture the output from the following command and put in in a pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for me: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0"
[11:42] <kagemaro> Myrtti - did the random bits, wasnt loud
[11:42] <Rosskouk> hi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?
[11:43] <stefg> marmer: first hit in *google* is https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart/+question/1984
[11:43] <sauvin> Oh, wow, I just noticed... ubuntu's virtual consoles WORK!
[11:43] <Myrtti> kagemaro: it doesn't matter if it was loud or not. If you've used flash with for example firefox, the flash process is probably still running and it uses your sounddevice, blocking it from other applications
[11:43] <jayde_drag0n> the 2 drives which are 80g.. are not the primary install,.... it should be my former c drive the 30gig drive... i installed windows on my G drive
[11:43] <Myrtti> kagemaro: actually it's firefox that's keeping the sound busy
[11:44] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - brb
[11:44] <jayde_drag0n> i'm trying to be as thurough and as telling as i can be to help you help me
[11:44] <stefg> sauvin: indeed, ubuntu is (more or less) working OS :-)
[11:45] <sauvin> stefg, so is Fedora Core 6, but one of the few places it really stank on this machine was in wiping out virtual console capability because of some kind of graphics card driver issue.
[11:45] <jayde_drag0n> anyone?
[11:46] <stefg> sauvin: don't mention anything RPM based in here :-)
[11:46] <Myrtti> *blink*
[11:46] <lamechick> hi
[11:46] <sauvin> I'll buy that. I'm discovering there's a whole world out there in .deb format which makes it unnecessary for me to have to build any of my favourite stuff.
[11:47] <wib> hi, sometimes some devices won't work on start up. either, the sound card works fine but the usb wlan doesn't or the other way round. how can i fix that? (i'm new to linux and i'm excited that i got the usb wlan to work! but why not every time?)
[11:47] <lamechick> hi everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <lamechick> do u play runescape ? if yes type 555
[11:48] <lamechick> lol
[11:48] <snowblink> Does anyone have a link to the security notice for the 6.06 kernel security update?
[11:48] <PriceChild> lamechick, that's not the way this channel works, and you are offtopic. #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:48] <stefg> wib, you might be suffering from acpi or irq issues with your motherboard. Have a look at the output of 'dmesg' (or put it !pastebin, if you want others to have alook)
[11:48] <stefg> !paste | wib
[11:48] <ubotu> wib: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:48] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - Sorry about that, pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30422
[11:50] <wib> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30423/
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: give me a couple of minutes to analyse it
[11:51] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - Sure
[11:51] <dissection> Are ports opened using Firestarter only temporary? What I mean to ask is if I close Firestarter, are those ports closed again as it were before?
[11:53] <jayde_drag0n> how do i unmount in ubuntu
[11:54] <Rosskouk> hi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?
[11:54] <HEP85> dissection: I don't think so. It does not open ports. It is just a filter
[11:54] <stefg> wib: given the amount of peripherals, my guess is you are running out of irq, or you ISDN adaptor is misbehaving. Fist step would be to go to the bios and disable all the stuff you don't need. Often , for example, there are still LPT chips on the board,eating an IRQ, but no connector is on the outside. Same goes for floppy drives
[11:56] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: See this bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93859 and then check out the link in comment #6 to the HdaIntelSoundHowTo
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> okay some people were helping me before... and since i feel the need to say this.. i have been working on this issue for over 30 hrs... i'm pretty frustrated... i just need someone to help me with some simple commands... when someone does talk to me i'm quick to respond and do what yu ask of me... i just need some help... because at 30hrs i'm obviously not good enough to do this on my own
[11:56] <Jordan_U> !pin | Rosskouk
[11:56] <ubotu> Rosskouk: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:56] <wib> stefg, i see. i don't even need the isdn adapter... i'll try to turn some things off, bye
[11:56] <stefg> wib: rip it out then
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> i am trying ... very unsuccessfully to reinstall grub
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> i am trying to follow what people have sent me in links
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> its not working
[11:56] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, Do you have only one hard drive?
[11:56] <brrrt> hi all, is there a way to check via commandline if the cd-tray is open or closed ? something like cat /proc/blabla ??
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> thank you
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> no i have several
[11:57] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: "this is the entry that I appended to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to get the sound to work properly: options snd-hda-intel model=auto"
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> but i know which drive ubuntu is on
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> i think
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> let me give you the url of my pasted outputs
[11:57] <sx66|PDA> hi
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/
[11:57] <kagemaro> Thanks IntuitiveNipple - will I need to restart after?
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/
[11:58] <Rosskouk> ubotu: Thanks i'll have a look at that
[11:58] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: If you stop things using sound (e.g. close firefox) you can unload the snd-hda-intel module and reload it after setting the option
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> i thought it was hdg1.. and i've apparantly sucessfully mounted that... but now i think i was supposed to mount just hdg
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> and i can't figure out how to unmount
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> it told me "unmount was not a command it recognized"
[11:58] <kamaci>  dont speak english more than :(   am sorry mm   need source turkish python  help :(
[11:58] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, "umount"
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> so no n
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> umount not unmount
[11:59] <Jordan_U> Yes
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> okay let me try that brb
[11:59] <sx66|PDA> 10min install xfce
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: After stopping any apps using audio, try this from a console: "sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel" - if it comes back *without* reporting an error, you've managed to unload the module, then you can try "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto" before making changes to the config files
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> and am i correct that i should have mounted hdg and not hdg1?
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: What I have just detailed is the *manual* way of doing things... if that works, then make the change to the configuration files so it is done every time your PC starts
[12:01] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, No, you can not mount a drive ( hdg ) only a partition ( hdg1 ), and from the pastebin hdg1 is correct
[12:01] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: are you on Live CD now?
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> okay
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> yes on livecd now
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> so then it is hdg1 that i should mount
[12:01] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ope a terminal and enter sudo grub
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> stefg i was told to mount the drives before i did just the grub command
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> and mount the boot
[12:02] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: grub doesn't care if the drives are mounted, grub is a micro os, with its own ways
[12:02] <brrrt> i need a shell-command to read the cdrom's tray status, open/close , how can i do that?
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> well i tried just going thru grub.. then i did the find command and got error 15
[12:03] <mattfletcher> is there an easy way of getting apt to tell you what packages you have installed since you installed the machine (ie, not the stock packages)?
[12:03] <Jordan_U> stefg, But having it mounted and using find from grub is the easiest way to be sure of the correct partition ( /dev/whatever != (hdx,x) )
[12:03] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok... so are are the grub-prompt, and enter 'find /boot/grub/stage1' what do you get?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> stefg, Oh, you don't even need it mounted to do that?
[12:04] <stefg> Jordan_U: no, as said earlier. grub lives in its own universe
[12:04] <jayde_drag0n> okay hang on
[12:05] <mattfletcher> i've seen dpkg --get-selections but that tells you even the base install packages too
[12:05] <TheRiddler> Hey All, I just Installed Linux, it Auto-Updated, then I installed some more stuff, can I still upgrade?  If so, how?
[12:05] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: You can look in the history of Synaptics, it lists by date, but I'm not sure how to do that from a console
[12:06] <jayde_drag0n> "probing devices"
[12:06] <jayde_drag0n> waiting\
[12:06] <TheRiddler> Hmm, Ubuntu 6.06 to be more specific
[12:06] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: GUI is an option here, where would I find that
[12:06] <nztxqhpd> Do
[12:06] <zhvfbfae> Do
[12:06] <xwcmlofj> Do
[12:06] <zhvfbfae> Do
[12:06] <nztxqhpd> Do
[12:06] <xwcmlofj> Do
[12:06] <Jordan_U> TheRiddler, And you want to upgrade to Feisty?
[12:06] <CheesyMonkey> !ops
[12:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:07] <CheesyMonkey> Never mind :) They stopped sorry guys
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: I seem to recall its on the first menu in Synaptics
[12:07] <TheRiddler> If possible, or if it's recomended
[12:07] <CheesyMonkey> PriceChild, Sorry mate :)
[12:07] <Amaranth_> !staff
[12:07] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[12:07] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: thanks, i will take a look when i have gui access then
[12:07] <jayde_drag0n> still waiting
[12:08] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so you don't have a separate /boot partition, do you?
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: lemme just see if I can find where it gets its list from... probably somewhere live /var/cache/apt or similar
[12:08] <jayde_drag0n> i don't know... what did my pasted output say?
[12:08] <TheRiddler> Sorry, I am way too use to mIRC
[12:08] <jayde_drag0n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/
[12:08] <ubuntu__> helooo
[12:08] <cxslwlmz> j00
[12:08] <cxslwlmz> j00
[12:08] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: nothing of dignostic value, to be honest. but never mind, we'll find out
[12:09] <jayde_drag0n> okee dokee
[12:09] <TiMiDo> !java
[12:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:09] <ubuntu__> geerg
[12:09] <PriceChild> Thankyou CheesyMonkey
[12:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu__, Yes?
[12:09] <TheRiddler> So should I upgrade from 6.06?
[12:09] <rolfen> I have a problem with my DVD, can anyone help?
[12:10] <rolfen> Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> how loong does it take to probe these lovely devices.
[12:10] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so you've installed ubuntu to a removable drive and now need that drive to be present to be able to boot your machine?
[12:10] <CheesyMonkey> PriceChild, I actually thought I overreacted, cause they stopped XD
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> no my problems are longer but simpler than that
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> let me break it down
[12:10] <ubuntu__> full game music mininova.org
[12:10] <rolfen> AFAIK i have them pludings installed unless i missed something
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> gimme a minute to type
[12:10] <PriceChild> !piracy | ubuntu__
[12:10] <ubotu> ubuntu__: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:11] <dissection> !o4o
[12:11] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[12:11] <ubuntu__> linux cool
[12:11] <ubuntu__> no
[12:11] <dissection> lol @ space travel
[12:11] <Jordan_U> TheRiddler, I would, but if it's a new install it might be faster to just install Feisty rather than update to edgy then feisty
[12:11] <ubuntu__> thanks
[12:11] <Gasten> Hey, how do I delete a podcast-sream from rhythmbox?
[12:12] <skollie> rolfen: appears to be a codecs problem
[12:12] <dissection> !apache
[12:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:12] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: It seems the history is specific to Synaptic
[12:12] <TheRiddler> Okay, and can you tell me the way to add KDE to Ubuntu, or what package is required
[12:13] <jayde_drag0n> i decided .. yesterday to screwq it all and i wanted ubuntu... so i popped in my live cd and installed ubuntu ... i have 4 drives ZIM: C formerly windows... internal  DIB: video storage 80g internal   ARMADA: music storage internal  GAZ: now has windows.. i'll get to that in a minute.. internal 40g   GIR: backup storage 300g external
[12:13] <nos> linux ubuntu cool
[12:13] <dissection> !ftp
[12:13] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:13] <TheRiddler> I had it so both Gnome and KDE were on here before
[12:13] <stefg> !kde | TheRiddler
[12:13] <ubotu> TheRiddler: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:13] <Amaranth> Gasten: right click on the feed
[12:13] <nos> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com
[12:13] <nos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:13] <dissection> What is a good application to setup an FTP server?
[12:13] <stefg> !ftp
[12:13] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:13] <TheRiddler> Alright everyone
[12:13] <dissection> No, not clients
[12:13] <Amaranth> !fp
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <TheRiddler> Thanks for your time
[12:13] <nos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[12:13] <stefg> !ftpd
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[12:14] <dissection> Cool
[12:14] <dissection> :D
[12:14] <Amaranth> !ftp
[12:14] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:14] <Gasten> Amaranth: What's supposed to happen? I'm using Edgy, so I'm not totally up to date.
[12:14] <TiMiDo> !flash
[12:14] <rolfen> skollie: i have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed
[12:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:14] <Amaranth> Gasten: should give you some options
[12:14] <skollie> !codecs | rolfen
[12:14] <ubotu> rolfen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <tuna-fish> does anyone know a system tray for gtk that can have multiple rows?
[12:14] <jayde_drag0n> after installing i wanted read write permissions on armada and dib... so after searching.. i installed ntfsconfig.... and followed instructions... then it unmounted the drive and told me i no longer had anuy permissions... great.. figured out how to loginto root... couldn't mount them... it said i needed to reboot into windows because it was shut down improperly... didn't have that and in my search to do this ntfsfix..was told to un
[12:14] <Amaranth> Gasten: "Delete Podcast Feed"
[12:14] <Gasten> Amaranth: Yes, but none of them is "delete this feed"
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> soooo after crying
[12:15] <Amaranth> Gasten: but i'm using gutsy so i don't know when that was added
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> i installed windows onto the former GAZ drive
[12:15] <Seoke> Anyone know of any good RPGs for Linux?
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> and now i need to reinstall grub so i can get into ubuntu so i can see my dang drives
[12:15] <rolfen> skollie: thanks...
[12:16] <Gasten> Amaranth: You know where the config is ?
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> but... i think i just reinstalled grub sucessfully.... soooo gimme 10 minutes to pop the cdout and reboot and see if i have it
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> and either way.. i'll be back to tell you results
[12:16] <Gasten> Amaranth: so I can dlete it manually.
[12:16] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: no worries, i'll check tonight
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: Good luck... I'm not sure if it captures history if Synaptics wasn't used
[12:17] <Amaranth> Gasten: you have to manually remove it from ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml
[12:17] <Amaranth> Gasten: not a fun task
[12:17] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok, 1.) Don't Panic! 2.) let's get an intermixed bunch of issues nicely sorted aout. 3.) solve one by one. We'll start at fixing grub
[12:17] <dsl1248> yeah
[12:17] <dissection> !GProftpd
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: There is a sneaky way... all new installed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - you could just list those :)
[12:17] <dissection> !vsftpd
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Amaranth> stefg: he left :/
[12:18] <Amaranth> sleepy time for me
[12:18] <stefg> Amaranth: yeh, noticed... better he gets some sleep before fixing his box :-)
[12:18] <Gasten> Amaranth: know. But he feed is faulty. I have to do it.
[12:19] <Amaranth> Gasten: if you're not too worried about your song ratings and playlists you could just remove the whole file
[12:19] <dsl1248> what's better than audacity
[12:19] <stefg> !jokosher
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jokosher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <wib> stefg, thank you! it kind of works now. (but it seems to me, that i have to have the usb-wlan plus another usb-device that has to be turned off on start up, weird)
[12:19] <Gasten> Amaranth: We'll see what I do.l
[12:19] <skollie> dsl1248: to do what?
[12:20] <rolfen> my dvd is mounted and this is the mount entry:
[12:20] <Gasten> dsl1248: depends on what you want.
[12:20] <rolfen> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=rolf)
[12:20] <rolfen> is everything normal?
[12:20] <rolfen> shouldnt the dvd be mounted as something else then iso9660?
[12:20] <Gasten> dsl1248: jokosher is good for garage band-stuff, ardour for professional stuff, rosegarden for lots of midi etc.
[12:20] <kagemaro> Thanks guys, sound's working :D
[12:20] <stefg> wib: sometimes device names change, depending on which interface comes up first. look at /etc/iftab
[12:20] <dsl1248> I want something like adobe audition
[12:21] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Was it the model=auto option?
[12:21] <Gasten> dsl1248: dont know what audition is like.
[12:21] <kagemaro> Yes
[12:21] <Gasten> dsl1248: but audacity is very good.
[12:21] <skollie> !ubuntu-studio | dsl1248
[12:21] <ubotu> dsl1248: ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[12:21] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: cool... nice when a bug report has a solution too
[12:21] <kagemaro> Anyone - does Cakewalk Sonar work with wine?
[12:21] <dsl1248> not sure
[12:21] <dsl1248> does wine work with wine?!
[12:21] <stefg> kagemaro: #winehq and check wine app database
[12:22] <dsl1248> it's "experimental"
[12:22] <dsl1248> audacity is good, but it's a little slow
[12:22] <wib> stefg, iftab: eth0 mac 00:0b:6a:3c:fe:d1 arp 1, i don't know what that means. i'm using wlan over usb, that's not the mac address of the usb device.
[12:23] <dhilip89> hello
[12:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Any ideas on how to fix Feisty 32-bit where when doing a suspend, it resumes immediately? (no clues so far in the logs or monitoring /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, or unloading various 'known' modules)
[12:24] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - yeah it's good, because it's a great soundcard for onboard/laptop
[12:24] <Seoke> Can anyone tell me how to install the Unreal Tournament .run file on my computer?
[12:24] <stefg> wib: iftab makes sure that every network adapter (identified by his mac address) gets always the same inetrface name (like eth0 or ra0 or whatever)
[12:24] <wib> stefg, so shouldn't wlan0 be in there?
[12:24] <wib> i'm using ndiswrapper, maybe it's different?
[12:25] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Yeah... I just fixed another bug with it and Feisty that causes looping of sound after resume from suspend... turned out to be a bug in the mainline kernel with late boot of non-boot CPUs
[12:25] <HEP85> Seoke: open a terminal and type the name of the .run file to run it
[12:25] <Gasten> Amaranth: seemed to be pretty easy to strip it out. open in gedit --> search for a keyword in the title and stripped out the entry typed "podcast-feed" I'm pretty sure it'll work.
[12:25] <mtappenden> Hi all
[12:26] <dsl1248> do yall ever /off
[12:26] <mtappenden> Can anyone recommend a decent ADSL wireless modem router?
[12:26] <Seoke> HEP85: Dont I need to chmod it for exec then sh run it?
[12:26] <younghacker> where would something downloaded using wget be found at?
[12:26] <mtappenden> We've been using Netgear DG834Ts, but they die after 6-9 months and we have to get a new one
[12:26] <stefg> wib: not sure, i was just a rough gist that your issues are related to floating interface names. http://everflux.de/ubuntu-reihenfolge-der-netzwerkkarten-140/
[12:26] <HEP85> Seoke: Why are you asking when you already know how it works?
[12:26] <kagemaro> mtappenden - try Belkin
[12:26] <IntuitiveNipple> younghacker: whatever directory you were in when running wget
[12:26] <Seoke> HEP85: Because I just saw it on the forum xD a
[12:27] <rolfen> what do you call a fully working ubuntu install
[12:27] <HEP85> Seoke: the forum is right
[12:27] <Seoke> HEP85: Thanks
[12:27] <dsl1248> can anyone vouch for the Ubuntu Powerpc version?
[12:27] <mtappenden> kagemaro: What experience do you have with them? We had their 802.11g PCI cards , in about 10 computers, and they all packed up after 3 months, which put us off their networking stuff.
[12:27] <HEP85> Seoke: np
[12:27] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: Is it the power-brick that fails, or the entire unit? We used to have a stock of power-bricks
[12:27] <younghacker> oh
[12:27] <younghacker> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks I'll check there
[12:27] <stefg> !ppc | dsl1248
[12:27] <ubotu> dsl1248: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:27] <kagemaro> mtappenden - I have had my Belkin router for 2 years, and been using their network cards for the same time period
[12:28] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: On one of the ones we've had it was the power brick, but generally they just start dropping out and have to be unplugged and plougged in again every hour or two
[12:28] <dsl1248> ubotu, what is the tempurature outside?
[12:28] <kagemaro> !computers
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about computers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <younghacker> cool found it,, whats the command to unzip a tar.gz file?
[12:28] <stefg> dsl1248: please stop the useless chatter
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: When it does that have you tried a new power-brick with it? We often found power starvation was the issue, *especially* with dropouts
[12:29] <mtappenden> Ah, my Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is downloaded, time to see if it looks legit, last one I tried was most definitely fake.
[12:29] <mc44> !piracy | mtappenden
[12:29] <ubotu> mtappenden: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:29] <kagemaro> mtappenden - if its legit, PM me the URL?
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> NetGear used to send us a box of replacement bricks so we always had some good to go :)
[12:29] <dsl1248> useless bot chatter?
[12:30] <T-Connect> Brb
[12:30] <dsl1248> com on people
[12:30] <`Over`> Bonjour
[12:30] <jrib> younghacker: right click -> extract, or 'tar xf file.tar.gz'
[12:30] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: Well, we have been using the same power brick with all the ones we've had, over the last few years (too lazy to move all the cabling) and whenever we replace it, it's fine for 9 months or so, so I don't think that's the issue.
[12:30] <mtappenden> kagemaro: Sure, I'll have a look
[12:30] <simone> hi , I have a strange issue.. I can't empty the Trash
[12:30] <kagemaro> !fr | `Over`
[12:30] <ubotu> `Over`: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:30] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: interesting you say 9 months - thats about the lifetime we had for our bricks before replacement :)
[12:30] <simone> I've also tried with ... sudo rm -rv ~/.Trash/*
[12:30] <`Over`> Thank you ubotu i'm new
[12:30] <dsl1248> why are you guys so sensitive! relax!!!!
[12:31] <HEP85> simone: what error did it give?
[12:31] <stefg> !traffic | dsl1248
[12:31] <ubotu> dsl1248: NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[12:31] <mtappenden> When it drops out, the lights are still on, it just doesn't work, and we just pull the cord out the back and shove it straight back in.
[12:31] <CheesyMonkey> dsl1248, Most people will say...theres alot of chatter going on in here, and they really dont need useless rubbish being typed
[12:31] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: The other thing, have you talked to NetGear about this? We found them really responsive on sorting things out, sending replacement kit on approval, etc.
[12:31] <dsl1248> you are a doucher
[12:31] <simone> HEP85 : no such file or directory
[12:32] <CheesyMonkey> !attitude | dsl1248
[12:32] <ubotu> dsl1248: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:32] <wib> stefg, why is eth0 even in iftab? i have no network devices in my pc anymore. i don't think there is a device with the mac address specified, can i find out?
[12:32] <mc44> dsl1248: please don't start insulting people
[12:32] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: No... We just want something that's gonna work.
[12:32] <jrib> dsl1248: please be respectful of others here and stay on-topic
[12:32] <dsl1248> get a bigger monitor
[12:32] <kagemaro> Anyone - what gnutella client would you recommend?
[12:32] <dsl1248> i am being respectful
[12:32] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: That sounds like what we experienced... unexplained dropouts, everything looks fine, web interface works, etc, but cycling power would restart it...  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:33] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: That's really weird. As I said, we never change the brick when we buy a new router...
[12:33] <T-Connect> How I get 7-zip to work?
[12:34] <HEP85> simone: I mean the .Trash folder. Maybe the whole folder got deleted instead of its contents
[12:34] <dhilip89> hello, i had a problem with firefox browser on ubuntu
[12:34] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: We've used all the common and not-so-common manufacturers and they all suffer from these issues from time to time... its rather like the hard disk issues of a few years ago... first one manufacturer then another, you didn't know where to turn!
[12:34] <jrib> !7zip > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:34] <younghacker> how do i unzip the tar.gz file
[12:34] <jrib> younghacker: I told you
[12:34] <younghacker> really
[12:34] <younghacker> let me back track sorry
[12:34] <PriceChild> younghacker, btw you don't unzip tars
[12:34] <younghacker> well sorry
[12:34] <younghacker> decompress
[12:34] <str0> i have 1 AGP and 1 PCI video card in my system but it is making the PCI default and using it in feisty to drive both monitors ...can anyone here help me set the BIOS IRQ options so that the APG is the default card ?
[12:34] <younghacker> ?
[12:34] <wib> stefg, oh well, it works now... thanks for that. i'll try to fix it on my own. bye!
[12:34] <younghacker> is that the correct way
[12:35] <mtappenden> Yeah, it's a right pain, it costs an absolute fortune to keep replacing them
[12:35] <IntuitiveNipple> if it's a gz, he gunzips it !
[12:35] <younghacker> oh
[12:35] <younghacker> lol
[12:35] <dsl1248> don't you mean g-unzips it
[12:35] <IntuitiveNipple> if it's a tar.gz you do tar -xzf <filename>
[12:35] <mtappenden> We were looking at maybe buying an industrial grade one, and over 5 years it'd easily pay for itself the amount we're spending, but they're all huge and complicated
[12:35] <younghacker> IntuitiveNipple: thanX
[12:35] <dhilip89> my firefox browser couldn't render properly for some pages
[12:36] <younghacker> thanX again everyone
[12:36] <PriceChild> IntuitiveNipple, you unzip zips... you untar tars
[12:36] <dhilip89> this is the screenshot: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot.png
[12:36] <younghacker> ill probably be asking more questions, i had to reinstall and i had all my notes on commands saved in tomboy notes
[12:36] <younghacker> they were my backup
[12:36] <younghacker> =)
[12:36] <mc44> PriceChild: theres a song in there somewhere :)
[12:36] <dhilip89> and another is: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot-1.png
[12:36] <PriceChild> mc44, doop de doo
[12:36] <IntuitiveNipple> PriceChild: I gunzip gz's, which was what younghacker asked
[12:37] <dsl1248> stop wasting space witbh your :)
[12:37] <dimebar> PriceChild: if I stare at it for ages will I see a rude picture?
[12:37] <mc44> PriceChild: to the tune of the hokey pokey
[12:37] <dsl1248> not related to this chatroom
[12:37] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[12:37] <T-Connect> The problem is that I can't use 7-zip. :(
[12:37] <PriceChild> dsl1248, please move on
[12:37] <CheesyMonkey> Thank you PriceChild
[12:38] <dsl1248> worry about yo' selves
[12:38] <younghacker> is tar.gz the same as .tgz?
[12:38] <Myrtti> younghacker: yes
[12:38] <younghacker> thanX
[12:38] <dhilip89> nobody can answer me ?
[12:38] <SS2> oberchecker: hey oberchecker, this is the wrong room ;)
[12:38] <jrib> !please > dhilip89 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <mattfletcher> dsl1248, i think we can allow the occasional pun when directly related to an ongoing thread
[12:38] <dsl1248> you are so on the ball! wow!
[12:38] <mrigns> who's responsible for the qt4 backport in feisty? It seems to have broken the systray icons of qt4 apps like last.fm player and skype
[12:39] <mrigns> I want a duel!
[12:39] <PriceChild> dsl1248, please stop...
[12:39] <PriceChild> mrigns, you too
[12:39] <PriceChild> mrigns, oh sorry ignore me :)
[12:39] <mrigns> lol
[12:39] <rolfen> ubuntu=half baked
[12:39] <mc44> mrigns: file a bug ;)
[12:39] <dhilip89> !repeat
[12:39] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:39] <jrib> dhilip89: weird, does it happen on other pages?
[12:39] <mc44> rolfen: please don't troll
[12:39] <rolfen> okay then
[12:39] <dsl1248> i guess im not smart enough for you, fine. i'll never say anything ever again.
[12:40] <stefg> jrib, dhilip89 : this seems to be the router admin page, look at the ip
[12:40] <dhilip89> yes
[12:40] <T-Connect> Cannot open RPGM_XP.rar
[12:40] <dhilip89> it appear on some website too
[12:40] <mrigns> the problem is I'm not 100% percent sure about the backport being the source of the bug
[12:41] <jrib> T-Connect: did you install 'unrar' from multiverse?
[12:41] <mattfletcher> dsl1248, lurking in a room moaning whenever the subject strays even slightly off course doesn't help anyone. as a thriving community we need to be able to have a laugh. a one-line joke "there's a song in there somewhere" isn't the end of the world
[12:41] <dhilip89> it has no problem on my windows machine with firefox or other browser
[12:41] <T-Connect> Nope just 7-zip
[12:41] <mattfletcher> oh. after all that rant, he's gone
[12:41] <jrib> T-Connect: I think you need 'unrar' for rar files.  Give it a try
[12:42] <stefg> dhilip89: check in firefox' options which default charset it uses. try utf-8 or iso 8859-1
[12:42] <T-Connect> 7-zip should work. It seem broken
[12:42] <jayde_drag0n> nope
[12:42] <jayde_drag0n> both times.. just went back into windows
[12:42] <eBoxNet> hello..
[12:43] <T-Connect> unrar isn't free?
[12:43] <defrysk> T-Connect, nope
[12:43] <Myrtti> T-Connect: free as in beer, yes.
[12:43] <mtappenden_> Who was interested in Harry Potter? It's legit, but it's photos of the pages, hard to read.
[12:43] <jrib> T-Connect: the description for p7zip just mentions 7z and 7za compression.  unrar isn't free in the sense that it is proprietary
[12:43] <jayde_drag0n> and weirdly find /boot/grub/stage1  gave the output of hd3,0  not on hd0
[12:43] <jrib> !offtopic | mtappenden_
[12:43] <ubotu> mtappenden_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:44] <mtappenden_> Yeah man
[12:44] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: that's logical, if your root is on /dev/sdg
[12:44] <T-Connect> Can I use wine with 7-zip?
[12:44] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: lead the way obe-wan... help me fix this so i can finally goto sleep
[12:44] <jrib> T-Connect: why... just use unrar to open rar files
[12:45] <T-Connect> 7-zip is free.
[12:45] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: lol... open terminal, sudo grub,
[12:45] <HEP85> T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.0
[12:45] <jrib> T-Connect: rar is a proprietary format anyway
[12:45] <jayde_drag0n> okay
[12:45] <jayde_drag0n> alien probe... commencing
[12:45] <mrigns> people who encountered the same problem with qt4 systray icon transparency broken by the recent qt4 backportto feisty can confirm the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/125757
[12:45] <HEP85> T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.0
[12:45] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: enter find /boot/grub/stage1 again
[12:46] <aleksanteri> anyone got repositories to newer versions of software? for example would need gcc 4.2 which isn't in the standard repositoy
[12:46] <T-Connect> Which ones? http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> (hd3,0)
[12:46] <HEP85> T-Connect: Sorry for double post. Did you install p7zip?
[12:46] <dhilip89> the encoding is depend on the page
[12:46] <T-Connect> Yep
[12:46] <T-Connect> It broken
[12:46] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: root (hd3,0)
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> i just did that
[12:46] <jrib> T-Connect: nah, use synaptic to install the "unrar" package
[12:46] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: setup  (hd3)
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> before i came back
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> it just went to windows
[12:47] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ah, wait!
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> exactly how your telling me
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> i missed a step?
[12:47] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: grub needs to be in the MBR of hd0, regardless where ubuntu is installed
[12:47] <leo|term> Problem: I want to make /web/scripts/fix_stuff available from anywhere. Someone told me to PATH="$PATH:/web/scripts"; export PATH, is this correct and i will be able to type fix_stuff anywhere to run the script?
[12:47] <stefg> so it's setup (hd0)
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> yes exactly.. so why are we setting it to hd3?
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> oh
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> got it
[12:48] <linux_user400354> what is feisty backports? does anyone know what a backport is?
[12:48] <jayde_drag0n> okay so root (hd3,0)    then setup (hd0)
[12:48] <T-Connect> unrar-free?
[12:48] <jayde_drag0n> yes?
[12:48] <jrib> T-Connect: unrar-free is useless.  Use "unrar".  It doesn't cost anything
[12:48] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so it's root(hd3,0) telling grub where its menu.lst is. then setup (hd0) to actually write grub with this pointer to the MBR of the first hd
[12:49] <jayde_drag0n> okay it said succeded
[12:49] <jayde_drag0n> reboot now?
[12:49] <stefg> jayde, type quit. reboot and check
[12:49] <jrib> leo|term: yes, put that in /etc/environment if it's for everyone or in the appropriate file in your HOME directory if it's just for your user
[12:50] <jayde_drag0n> okee dokee *holds breath* i'll be back with results no matter what
[12:50] <aricz> Humm, both my CD-rom and DVD-rom stopped working.. anyone know how to try fixing this?
[12:50] <T-Connect> Damn it. I can't use that ether?
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: can't use what?
[12:51] <dhilip89> maybe the problem is caused by after I installed various types of font
[12:51] <T-Connect> unrar
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: you can, why do you say you can't?
[12:51] <HEP85> T-Connect: What about p7zip-full? The program supports 7z (that implements LZMA compression
[12:51] <HEP85> algorithm), ZIP, Zip64, CAB, RAR, ARJ, GZIP, BZIP2, TAR, CPIO, RPM, ISO
[12:51] <HEP85> and DEB formats
[12:51] <T-Connect> I don't know what to do.
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: have you enabled multiverse?
[12:52] <T-Connect> ???
[12:52] <jrib> !multiverse > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <adzmanizam> hi all
[12:53] <golam> hi guys
[12:53] <T-Connect> That not going to help me.
[12:53] <daya> how to identify which video card is installed in my pcd
[12:53] <daya> pc,
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> daya: lspci
[12:53] <jrib> T-Connect: why not?  You need to enable multiverse to install "unrar"
[12:53] <stefg> daya: lspci | grep VGA
[12:53] <leo|term> ok thx jrib  :)
[12:53] <ikonia> jrib ?
[12:53] <T-Connect> What is multiverse?
[12:53] <ikonia> what are you doing in here
[12:54] <adzmanizam> hi all
[12:54] <golam> anybody know what is the command to write data into a blank CD
[12:54] <stefg> golam: cdrecord
[12:54] <jrib> T-Connect: it's a repository.  The page ubotu linked you to explains in detail
[12:54] <jrib> ikonia: hi
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> golam: cdrecord but you'll need to build an iso first IIRC
[12:54] <dhilip89> multiverse is non-free packages
[12:54] <ikonia> jrib he, I'll catup with you in #gold later
[12:54] <T-Connect> I'm not going to read all that.
[12:54] <golam> hmm thanks let me try
[12:54] <stefg> golam: so it's a combo of mkisofs and cdrecord, to be more precise
[12:55] <T-Connect> Headace
[12:55] <daya> stefg, thanks
[12:55] <g[r] eek> hi ive logged into my ubuntu box via putty. i want to change the font colours (permanently, so that when i reload putty the colour changes persist). ideas?
[12:55] <golam> sorry I did not understand
[12:55] <g[r] eek> i'm looking for some kind of file where i set font colours. for example, links in my file system, executable files, folders, all have different colours.
[12:56] <stefg> !k3b | golm
[12:56] <ubotu> golm: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:56] <g[r] eek> i want to change these
[12:56] <stefg> !k3b | golam
[12:56] <ubotu> golam: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:56] <jrib> T-Connect: ok, well those two pages tell you how to enable multiverse
[12:56] <pacoloco> I need you help with amarok, don't reproduce mp3
[12:56] <SlimeyPete> golam: you're better off using a grphical program such as k3b
[12:56] <golam> I am usung gnome
[12:56] <T-Connect> It should be enabled on default settings
[12:56] <Dusk_> how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???
[12:56] <T-Connect> Why mess with it?
[12:56] <jrib> T-Connect: no, it can't be because it's non-free
[12:56] <SlimeyPete> golam: you can run k3b on gnome.
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> it works fine
[12:58] <asc> Out of curiosity, under what circumstances would part of a partition be in the MBR area?
[12:58] <T-Connect> Why are the words small on the snapshots?
[12:58] <T-Connect> I can't read those.
[12:58] <stefg> asc: under the condition of a foobar'd partition table
[12:58] <golam> I have just installed k3b ... let me try it
[12:58] <Dusk_> how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???
[12:59] <T-Connect> I give up.
[12:59] <jrib> !icons > Dusk_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:59] <geoaxis> hello people
[12:59] <jrib> Dusk_: either don't mount them to /media or change the gconf key ubotu told you about with gconf-editor
[12:59] <geoaxis> my mic still aint working
[12:59] <dhilip89> i had a problem again, my max screen resolution only has 800x600 after i installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:59] <Dusk_> !icons
[12:59] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:59] <jrib> T-Connect: system -> administration -> software sources is all the page says...
[01:00] <asc> stefg: Hmm. No way it should happen under normal circumstances, then?
[01:00] <DarKnesS_WolF> if i have ht prcoc. i should use linux-image-server but in proc i can see only one cpu is that normal ??
[01:00] <g[r] eek> hi can anyone help me change the font colours in my terminal?
[01:00] <jrib> g[r] eek: right click -> edit current profile
[01:00] <stefg> asc: no, that's an indication of seroius trouble
[01:00] <dhilip89> the card is Geforce2 Ti
[01:00] <Dusk_> jrib, there should be another way...just a click
[01:00] <g[r] eek> jrib: server edition- looking for some kind of config file
[01:00] <jrib> Dusk_: I don't know of one, file a bug
[01:01] <T-Connect> Heh it not for 7.04
[01:01] <g[r] eek> jrib: when i log into my ubuntu server with putty, folders, executables, links, all different colours. i want to edit these.
[01:01] <T-Connect> Different setup
[01:01] <stefg> !fixres | dhilip89
[01:01] <jrib> g[r] eek: edit the LS_COLORS variable
[01:01] <asc> stefg: Interesting, thanks. I'm having a discussion with a guy who says overwriting his MBR broke a partition. :p
[01:01] <jayde_drag0n> no such luck
[01:01] <Dusk_> !desktop
[01:01] <ubotu> dhilip89: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:01] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[01:01] <Dusk_> !nautilus
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> it brought up grub... but it did what it did when i messed up the install the very first time
[01:02] <g[r] eek> jrib: not sure what you mean?
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> it hung forever... then ent to a grub prompt... no choices
[01:02] <dhilip89> thanks
[01:02] <Jjohn> geaxis, look in your gui sound settings and make sure is is not muted
[01:02] <g[r] eek> jrib: is that an env variable like PATH?
[01:02] <Dusk_> !nautilus
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <asc> stefg: Well, thanks. Now I don't know what the heck happened, but I'm still right. ;p
[01:02] <bullgard4> What program produced the + and - signs in the email  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/12900/ that I received?
[01:02] <stefg> asc: if e.g. partiton magic f*cked his part-table before, that might be possible. but that's a consequence, not a cause
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> sooo i'm just going to do a complete reinstall.... again
[01:02] <T-Connect> Anyway it wrong faq for 7.04. I give up.
[01:03] <jrib> g[r] eek: yeah, in your .bashrc you should have something like eval `dir-colors -b` that does it
[01:03] <jayde_drag0n> but before i do that... i want to take my 2 drives... dib and armada and format them to the linux filesystem... how do i do that?
[01:03] <g[r] eek> jrib: thanks
[01:03] <T-Connect> Ubuntu 6.10 only
[01:03] <jrib> T-Connect: it's the same.
[01:03] <dhilip89> the compiz went wrong for my card too
[01:03] <T-Connect> No it is not.
[01:03] <dhilip89> it hangs the whole desktop
[01:03] <jrib> T-Connect: you don't have system -> administration -> software sources in your menu?
[01:04] <T-Connect> Yes I do. But the faq made for Ubuntu 6.10 only
[01:04] <jrib> T-Connect: click on that and add multiverse
[01:04] <T-Connect>  software sources is different
[01:04] <misstajah> Question: http://intellinuxwireless.org/tar.php?p=iwlwifi&a=iwlwifi-0.1.1.tgz&f=INSTALL <- it doesn't seem to work, how can I solve this?
[01:04] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: how do i format my 2 external drives from ntfs or whatever they are to ubuntu?
[01:05] <jrib> T-Connect: it should be easy for you to figure out.  Click on "multiverse"
[01:05] <jayde_drag0n> just lead me thru 1 i should be able to do the other by myself after that
[01:05] <soc> hi
[01:05] <T-Connect> Where? It not listed