[09:13] <jeff25> bob2: that won't work because ubuntu ships X with -nolisten
[09:13] <Llamabutcher> bob2: what difference does it make if i can ping www.google.com?
[09:14] <bob2> jeff25: yes, it will work
[09:14] <jeff25> bob2: I think I have to change /etc/gdm.conf
[09:14] <nate__> can't believe xmms won't play wma sound files
[09:14] <bob2> jeff25: no, you don't
[09:14] <nate__> can't believe i need lame mplayer
[09:14] <bob2> nate__: er, do the xmms authors have a patent license for that?
[09:14] <iceman> any one know how to shrink the icon size on a gnome desktop
[09:14] <bob2> nate__: no?
[09:14] <bob2> jeff25: the command I gave you should work
[09:14] <bob2> Llamabutcher: that means your network at least somewhat works
[09:14] <AvvY> bob2: http://www.linuxprinting.org/ doesnt list my printer - Canon MP390. the other drivers print, just not the right size
[09:14] <Highbie> so is ubuntu a mod linux os or something like that>?
[09:14] <jeff25> bob2: I don't want to do it that way.  nevermind I figured it out
[09:14] <Llamabutcher> well yeah, it works... my dns is up
[09:15] <nate__> bob2: got a recommendation for an all-around music player?  One that can play pretty much all formats?
[09:15] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok i got a checksum...
[09:15] <Llamabutcher> so i dunno why http wouldnt work
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ! restricted formats
[09:15] <ubotu> thoreauputic: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:15] <Llamabutcher> would it have anything to do w/ my sources list?
[09:15] <bob2> nate__: I just use cplay, but it's probably not what you want
[09:15] <bob2> Llamabutcher: could do
[09:15] <bob2> AvvY: ok
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stupid bot I just told you !
[09:15] <Llamabutcher> but it seems like it just let http work in general
[09:15] <Amaranth> abuse the bot and get silenced
[09:15] <Amaranth> just a warning
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: :P
[09:16] <imaek> Whoa.
[09:16] <imaek> I just restarted
[09:16] <bob2> Amaranth: thinking "trial period to see how it goes and how abused it gets"?
[09:16] <imaek> and now I have like... 57 updates
[09:16] <imaek> o_o
[09:16] <Amaranth> bob2: yeah
[09:16] <AvvY> bob2: im dl http://www.turboprint.de/ it looks like it could help
[09:16] <bob2> cool
[09:16] <Llamabutcher> i have 3 repositories in my /etc/apt/sources.list are there any good ftp's that i can do that update and find the linux-headers for my kernel so i can install captive
[09:17] <bob2> Llamabutcher: sudo apt-setup
[09:18] <iceman> anyone know a app like superkaramba for gnome ?
[09:18] <Llamabutcher> i dont have a hostname though, all the ones im finding on google are all https
[09:18] <bob2> iceman: gdesklets
[09:19] <[Spooky] > bob2: that i got the checksum means the burned cd is ok ?
[09:19] <iceman> bob2 can it be got with aptitude ? or gnomelook org ?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: OK I'm teaching it a couple of urls in /msg to avoid the wrath of the #ubuntu Gods ;)
[09:20] <bob2> [Spooky] : no, compare it to what's in http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/MD5SUMS
[09:20] <bob2> iceman: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's in universe
[09:20] <imaek> I am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?
[09:20] <Amaranth> bob2: I'm more worried about the bot not getting used at all than it getting abused though. Remember when I had one here?
[09:21] <Llamabutcher> bob2, what should i type into the ftp mirror in apt-setup? I can only find http ones
[09:21] <paulproteus> "Ew, FTP sucks." (-;
[09:21] <bob2> Amaranth: no :-)
[09:21] <[Spooky] > bob2: it didnt match...
[09:21] <bob2> Llamabutcher: you can't use http?
[09:21] <Amaranth> bob2: You had admin access to it and everything. UbuntuBot
[09:21] <[Spooky] > so my cd is f*cked up ? :)
[09:22] <bob2> Amaranth: oh, right
[09:22] <bob2> [Spooky] : or your download was
[09:22] <Amaranth> bob2: After a week of not getting used at all when it disconnected for no reason I just left it.
[09:22] <Highbie> so what does the ubuntu desktop look like?
[09:22] <bob2> Highbie: like gnome
[09:22] <imaek> magic
[09:23] <[Spooky] > bob2: hm ok, i quess i have to download it again and check the md5sum before burning this time...
[09:23] <Llamabutcher> bob2: i dunno... what else could this message mean? E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
[09:23] <Llamabutcher> when i run apt-get update
[09:23] <imaek> i really hope that these updates are not like KILL YOUR SYSTEM updates
[09:23] <hyphenated> Highbie: there's plenty of screenshots to see if you go to the main site and click "Screenshot"
[09:23] <Llamabutcher> becuase thats what it says when i try to install the kernel headers to install that captive program, but cant find them
[09:23] <iceman> bob2 cant find that link ..
[09:24] <[Spooky] > bob2: thanks fr the help btw :)
[09:24] <bob2> [Spooky] : you can just use rsync to save time
[09:24] <bob2> Llamabutcher: perhaps that the cd is broken, or the network connection or the apt config or ...
[09:25] <bob2> iceman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[09:25] <iceman> bob2 ty
[09:26] <Highbie> is idle rpg the most weird game ever?
[09:26] <[Spooky] > bob2: hm ok... i dunno what it is hehe
[09:26] <imaek> I am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?
[09:27] <bob2> imaek: have you asked on the list yet?
[09:27] <imaek> No
[09:27] <imaek> Should I?
[09:27] <imaek> I don't really know what to do with the list..
[09:28] <Seveas> imaek, yes, there are much more people there who can answer
[09:28] <imaek> Under what, sounder?
[09:28] <imaek> or where
[09:29] <nate__> anyone know how to play wma MUSIC files in linux?  Restricted formats only gives how to play wma VIDEO
[09:29] <jacquesmerde> is there any way to delete the gstreamer0.8-plugins metapackage if i was dumb enough to install it with synaptic instead of aptitude?
[09:29] <Seveas> imaek, ubuntu-users
[09:29] <crimmy> nate__: mplayer also works for that.
[09:29] <bob2> nate__: mplayer.
[09:29] <nate__> crimmy: really....it won't work for me
[09:29] <jacquesmerde> nate__, i thought wma WAS music...wmv???
[09:30] <nate__> jacquesmerde: ha, good point
[09:30] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, use debfoster to delete unneeded dependenies of uninstalled packages
[09:30] <iceman> bob2 humm lost in adding repository ?
[09:30] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, to use debfoster dont i have to know every package i want to keep?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> cafuego: is ubotu likely to be a permanent fixture? Or just when you are on ?
[09:32] <iceman> bob2 dont see how to add universe packages ..
[09:32] <bob2> iceman: that page explains how
[09:32] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, you can just skip the ones you're not sure about
[09:32] <bob2> iceman: what's your native language?
[09:33] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, but isnt the whole point of debfoster that you have packages you're not sure baout??
[09:33] <Vanlar-AFK> Hey everyone. I just downloaded Ubuntu yesterday, and I'm trying to get my Broadcom modem to work... What kernel version does the latest Ubuntu ship with?
[09:33] <cafuego__> thoreauputic: it runs on a hosted box, should be here 24/7
[09:33] <kagou> hi
[09:33] <paulproteus> Vanlar-AFK: Are you in Ubuntu now?
[09:33] <nate__> seriously, why isn't it playing these wma files
[09:33] <cafuego__> thoreauputic: ... if I can figure out how to send admin commands <heh>
[09:33] <nate__> i'm gonna freak
[09:33] <thoreauputic> cafuego: great :)
[09:33] <paulproteus> Vanlar-AFK: If so, you can type 'uname -r' to see yourself.
[09:33] <paulproteus> nate__: What program are you using?
[09:34] <nate__> paulproteus: mplayer
[09:34] <Vanlar-AFK> paulproteus - No, I have to boot back to windows to get my modem working
[09:34] <nate__> paulproteus: with all codecs installed
[09:34] <paulproteus> nate__: Can your mplayer play other sound files?
[09:34] <Vanlar-AFK> but thanks for the command
[09:34] <paulproteus> Vanlar-AFK: 2.6.10 with patches, then. :)
[09:34] <nate__> paulproteus: yes, mp3
[09:34] <nate__> paulproteus: and ogg
[09:34] <paulproteus> Look for the linux-image-* package.
[09:34] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, debfoster will create a keepers file in which you specify what you want to keep, running debfoster once in a while will help you regaining disk space :)
[09:35] <Vanlar-AFK> Ok, 2.6.10... I downloaded a Linux driver for my modem from Dell, but it was for Redhat 9. I RPM'd it per the instructions, but it didn't work.
[09:35] <paulproteus> Vanlar-AFK: What modem?
[09:35] <iceman>  aptitude install gdesklets does noe get it ..
[09:35] <paulproteus> Can you provide URLs with more technical info?
[09:35] <Vanlar-AFK> it's a Broadcom BCM v.92 56k modem
[09:35] <iceman> does not work ..
[09:35] <paulproteus> Vanlar-AFK: FYI, "BCM" is a shorthand for "Broadcom".
[09:36] <paulproteus> 4212 sounds probably.
[09:36] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, actually. i just installed ubuntu recently, and have only installed a couple of new packages. is there any way i can roll-back to the default packages?
[09:36] <Chrisrv> I think it's a 4212, yes
[09:36] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, yes, run debfoster and prune everything except ubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <nate__> its pastebin.com, right?
[09:37] <iceman> why does this have to suck so much trying to add a package ..
[09:37] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, and debfoster? can it prune itself? can it take itself out to dinner and a movie?
[09:37] <Chrisrv> Everything worked perfectly with Ubuntu except that modem. Unfortunately when Dialup is all you have. A modem is important =)
[09:37] <nate__> Chrisrv: ickie
[09:38] <bob2> iceman: it's not very hard
[09:38] <bob2> iceman: it even has screenshots to show you what to change
[09:38] <bob2> iceman: what is confusing you?
[09:38] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, yes, it can prune itself :)
[09:39] <iceman> bob2 screens completly different ... cant just add a checkbox ?
[09:39] <kisain> anyone good a reading wine output errors?
[09:40] <paulproteus> kisain: I'm afraid so.
[09:40] <paulproteus> Join me in #flood
[09:40] <Chrisrv> paulproteus - I'm looking for more details on the modem now
[09:40] <iceman> bob2 no menu to enable or disable
[09:40] <bob2> iceman: is the page translated into your native language?  that might be clearer.
[09:40] <kisain> if i paste the error in pastebin you think you can help?
[09:40] <nate__> oops, i see the problem now, its a liscensing issue
[09:41] <nate__> gotta burn it to audio then rip it under linux now
[09:41] <iceman> eanglish ...
[09:41] <iceman> english ..
[09:41] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, after i selected to keep ubuntu-desktop, it asked about language-pack-en, linux-386, and grub (do i want all three of them?)
[09:41] <paulproteus> kisain: Maybe.
[09:41] <paulproteus> kisain: Try. :)
[09:41] <iceman> complete different look
[09:41] <RUXSPINZ> h4x0rs?
[09:41] <radix> RUXSPINZ: everywhere!
[09:42] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, probably you want :)
[09:42] <RUXSPINZ> sweet i need help
[09:42] <RUXSPINZ> anyone know how to do shit with an open port 21?
[09:42] <bob2> RUXSPINZ: best to just ask your actual question
[09:42] <thoreauputic> RUXSPINZ: could you be a bit more vague?
[09:42] <bob2> if it is "How do I port-forward FTP?", the answer is, "you don't".
[09:42] <RUXSPINZ> lol
[09:42] <Aegir> RUXSPINZ, What are you trying to break?
[09:43] <RUXSPINZ> my schools web server
[09:43] <Aegir> :P
[09:43] <Aegir> Hah. A noble goal. But still, dont bother
[09:43] <iceman> bob2 my synaptic package manager shows a large type list on the lest side ... no option for universe pacakges ... i can ann repositories.. but is ask for a apt line ... then who knows what ?
[09:43] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, ooh, one last question before i become an aptitude convert, i've installed a few tetex packages recently, but debfoster didnt offer to prune them, any idea why?
[09:43] <RUXSPINZ> the 80 is also open
[09:43] <Seveas> RUXSPINZ, we do not support hacking and other illegal stuff in here...
[09:43] <cafuego> RUXSPINZ: So you have ftp and http
[09:43] <RUXSPINZ> yes
[09:43] <Aegir> RUXSPINZ, Dont bother.
[09:44] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, not really, did it only ack about the 3 afore-mentioned packages
[09:44] <kisain> paulproteus here it is
[09:44] <Seveas> paulproteus, same thing in *his* eyes
[09:44] <imaek> I am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?
[09:44] <kisain> http://pastebin.com/291575
[09:44] <jme> Hello everybody
[09:44] <bob2> imaek: I'd really try the list
[09:44] <imaek> I am
[09:44] <kisain> please tell me it's something i did wrong lol
[09:44] <imaek> I'm just still trying IRC...
[09:45] <jme> I've a problem with apache2, did someone can help me?
[09:46] <jme> I've installed PHP4, when i try to open a php fil i've a pop up asking me where to save the file :|
[09:46] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, it asked about ubuntu-desktop, the three aforementioned packages, everything i'd installed since main install, except those tetex packages....
[09:46] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, maybe you installed something that depends on tetex :)
[09:46] <Jimbob> jme: You need to get libapache2-mod-php, or treat PHP scripts as CGI.
[09:46] <kisain> paulproteus any idea>?
[09:46] <grahagre> kde on ubuntu fucking fules
[09:46] <Seveas> debfoster only asks about packages that nothing depends on
[09:47] <Tezkah> grahagre: Kubuntu?
[09:47] <paulproteus> grahagre: You mean, rucking fules.
[09:47] <Amaranth> grahagre: watch your fucking language ;)
[09:47] <grahagre> sorry ;-P
[09:47] <bob2> iceman: do you know how to use a text editor?
[09:48] <jme> Jimbob, I supose i've to restart apache befor test it ?
[09:48] <Jimbob> yeah
[09:48] <paulproteus> kisain: I'm afraid not.
[09:48] <grahagre> so kubuntu is basically a subset of ubuntu w/ just kde instead of gnome?
[09:48] <kisain> damnit
[09:49] <kisain> i can't figure it out lol
[09:49] <Seveas> grahagre, no
[09:49] <kisain> is there a wine channel?
[09:49] <paulproteus> kisain: I'd hit the mailing list.
[09:49] <grahagre> how is it different/similar?
[09:49] <paulproteus> Or check winehq.org to see if they use IRC.
[09:49] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, doubt it, it was the last thing i installed before gstreamer0.8-plugins, and even if playing mp3's require tetex-common, i can't imagine it needs all the utils too
[09:49] <Seveas> grahagre, ubuntu and kubuntu contain the same set of packages, the default install is just a bit different
[09:49] <thoreauputic> kisain: #winehq or something like that
[09:49] <grahagre> oh
[09:49] <Tezkah> I have this program that says it requires Windows 98 or better, why doesnt it work on ubuntu? ;)
[09:49] <kisain> ok thank you
[09:50] <paulproteus> kisain: I mean the wine mailing list in particular.
[09:50] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, try apt-cache rdepends tetex-bin
[09:50] <kisain> wine mailing list?/
[09:50] <bob2> iceman: that picture isn't of synaptic...
[09:50] <grahagre> how many people use kde and gnome?
[09:50] <bob2> iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager
[09:51] <grahagre> just curious
[09:51] <Aegir> grahagre, I use both
[09:51] <grahagre> yeah, i prefer that
[09:51] <Aegir> Not at the same time ofcourse
[09:51] <imaek> Alrght, bob2, I sent the email.
[09:51] <Tezkah> grahagre: there was a survery on what people used, and KDE seemed to be more popular
[09:51] <thoreauputic> grahagre: some use both - #kubuntu for the hard core Kubuntu users ;)
[09:51] <Tezkah> its really just personal preference
[09:51] <Aegir> Mostly just use Gnome apps inside a very minimal KDE setup
[09:51] <Aegir> I only use KDE for Kompos
[09:52] <Aegir> :)
[09:52] <imaek> Nice e.
[09:52] <grahagre> i tried out gentoo on a pII yestarday, it took 23 hrs to compile everything
[09:52] <Aegir> And use the KDE classic theme for some Debian Stable nostalgia.
[09:52] <jme> jimbob, I've restart apache2 but i've the same problem
[09:52] <Aegir> And a mac-style tob-bar
[09:52] <grahagre> so i put ubuntu on my t42 instead ;-P
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Aegir: kteatime is a must ;-)
[09:52] <Aegir> kteatime? Bah...
[09:52] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[09:53] <iceman> bob2 yes it is ... dang how to send yu my screen ...
[09:53] <Tezkah> ksnapshot
[09:53] <Aegir> Heheheh. My KDE setup acts like a Mac, but looks like the back end of a bus
[09:53] <Aegir> *g*
[09:53] <Aegir> And I *like* it
[09:53] <bob2> iceman: no, the program on the page you pointed me at is not synaptic
[09:54] <bob2> iceman: a) please stop /msg'ing me, b) be WAY MORE SPECIFIC if you want help
[09:54] <bob2> iceman: the first pictue on that page is not synaptic
[09:54] <Jimbob> jme: Umm, in mods-enabled, are there symlinks for php4.conf and php4.load?
[09:54] <bob2> iceman: if you mean something other than the first picture, please say so
[09:54] <iceman> bob2 thats the repository manager i have ,,
[09:55] <bob2> iceman: you ran the exact program I told you to?
[09:55] <bob2> 17:50:57 @         bob2 | iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager
[09:55] <iceman> bob2 on my screen ...
[09:55] <Jimbob> jme: Sorry, in "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled"
[09:56] <Jimbob> jme: There should be php4.conf, which points to "../mods-available/php4.conf" and php4.load, which points to "../mods-available/php4.load"
[09:56] <bob2> iceman: you need to run the program I told you to run
[09:57] <bob2> iceman: when I run it, I do not get the program you showed me in the screen shot, I get the one on the SynapticHowto page
[09:57] <grahagre> is there some way to cloak your ip address from whois on this server?
[09:57] <grahagre> i didnt see any
[09:57] <bob2> grahagre: /msg nickserv helpo
[09:57] <grahagre> sorry ;-P
[09:58] <Chrisrv> Anyone willing to help me get a Broadcom 4112 Softmodem working in Ubuntu? I have a Redhat driver source, and need to know how to make it work in Ubuntu =)
[09:58] <cafuego> .me arrghs
[09:58] <bob2> is it too late to exchange it for a proper hardware modem?
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> hello \o
[09:59] <Chrisrv> hehe, yes. Although I'm thinking that going and buying a $15 'real' modem would be a much easier option =)
[09:59] <iceman> this sucks ... my screen shows the package manager open .. looks way different .. no checkboxs on left side of screen ..
[10:00] <bob2> iceman: dude
[10:00] <bob2> iceman: 17:55:12 @         bob2 | 17:50:57 @         bob2 | iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager
[10:00] <bob2> iceman: did you do that or not?
[10:00] <iceman> open the package  manager program
[10:00] <bob2> nno
[10:00] <bob2> stop
[10:00] <bob2> I gave you explicit instructions
[10:00] <bob2> did you follow them or not?
[10:01] <p88> hi, how do I load all the needed modules and mknods of vmware without rebuilding them every time I reboot?
[10:01] <bob2> you never need to rebuild them for a reboot
[10:02] <bob2> did you just not add them to /etc/modules?
[10:02] <iceman> bob2 opened synaptic package manager ...
[10:02] <bob2> Chrisrv: please don't /msg people
[10:02] <bob2> if they're random unpackaged sources, they will probably work
[10:02] <bob2> but you will need to rebuild them everytime your kernel gets upgraded
[10:03] <p88> bob2: even if I load them, the device nodes won't be created
[10:03] <bob2> iceman: so, the title of the window is "Synaptic Package Manager"?
[10:03] <bob2> p88: vmware still doesn't do udev?
[10:03] <bob2> haha
[10:03] <iceman> bob2 yes
[10:03] <Chrisrv> sorry, thought that would be easier to keep track of.
[10:03] <bob2> Chrisrv: no, in here everyone can help
[10:03] <bob2> iceman: but it looks like the firsst screenshot in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504?
[10:05] <iceman> bob2 ... no .. ?
[10:05] <bob2> iceman: dude
[10:05] <bob2> you're not explaining things very well
[10:06] <bob2> you told me you were using the tool that looked like the one in that picture
[10:06] <iceman> bob2 now i have that one open
[10:06] <iceman> thats the update manager ..
[10:06] <bob2> yes, I know
[10:07] <iceman> dont see how to add the universe packages ...
[10:07] <bob2> so
[10:07] <bob2> you're reading the wiki page I pointed you at
[10:07] <bob2> and you get to the bit that says "In Synaptic, bring up the repositories window: Settings -> Repositories".
[10:07] <bob2> which part of that doesn't work?
[10:07] <iceman> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504? that one
[10:07] <bob2> dude
[10:07] <bob2> no
[10:08] <bob2> 17:25:30           bob2 | iceman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[10:08] <Chrisrv> I'm not familiar with different linux distros. Can someone look at the Softmodem Instructions here (http://www.jhrose.dial.pipex.com/tools/) and tell me if I'll need to change anything to rebuild the driver it's talking about for Ubuntu? The instructions given on this page are for SuSE
[10:09] <iceman> my screen to add repositories is completly different
[10:09] <iceman> not even close to that one ...
[10:09] <bob2> iceman: in what way?
[10:09] <bob2> being vague is really really really annoying
[10:09] <bob2> and means people will not bother trying to help you
[10:09] <iceman> hard to describe the way mine looks ..
[10:10] <bob2> not really
[10:10] <bob2> it's simple
[10:10] <iceman> bob2 my package manager look like the one on that page ...
[10:10] <bob2> is it the same, but with a different list of available repositories?
[10:10] <iceman> not even close to the same ...
[10:11] <Seveas> iceman, [prtscr] ,gimp,ftp->put on webpage :)
[10:11] <thoreauputic> bob2: I think the repositories screenshot on that page is from warty? Mine also looks different
[10:11] <iceman> exactly ..
[10:11] <bob2> it does too
[10:11] <bob2> iceman: my apologies
[10:11] <Seveas> correct
[10:12] <iceman> np ... i found the problem ...
[10:12] <iceman> i'll explain what i had to do .. to make the universe packages available ..
[10:12] <bob2> Chrisrv: get the rpm from dell, convert it to a .deb with "alien", then install it.
[10:12] <jme> jimbob, In php4.con i only have this 2 lines : AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[10:12] <jme> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[10:13] <jme> gedit php4.load
[10:13] <bob2> Chrisrv: run: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:13] <GNAM> how can I restart a service as sshd?
[10:13] <bob2> Chrisrv: continue on from the "After extracting the RPM files," paragraph, but do not edit the header file
[10:13] <jme> in php4.load i've this line : LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so
[10:13] <iceman> once i opened the package manager repository selection ..
[10:13] <bob2> GNAM: you mean restart sshd?
[10:13] <Hajuu> Hey
[10:13] <Seveas> GNAM, /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:13] <iceman> click settings ..
[10:13] <bob2> GNAM: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[10:13] <Hajuu> I just apt-get'd enlightenment window manager.. how can I switch over to using that?
[10:14] <iceman> add a check beside disabled software sources option
[10:14] <GNAM> auaua nothing work
[10:14] <iceman> then universe pacages appear ... in the new list ...
[10:14] <GNAM> my sshd is is /usr/sbin
[10:14] <Seveas> Hajuu, log out and choose enlightenment from the login screen
[10:14] <Chrisrv> Thanks bob. I'm going to try that. Then I'll fireup my laptop and come back here on it, with Linux on my home PC, that way I can try stuff on it and talk here at the same time.
[10:14] <bob2> Chrisrv: you'll need to copy the script to /etc/init.d/ manually
[10:15] <iceman> bob2 you tried ... np ... he caught the screen difference ..
[10:15] <Seveas> GNAM, have you manually installed sshd or from the repositories?
[10:15] <bob2> Chrisrv: the ppp config files can be generated using "sudo pppconfig"
[10:15] <GNAM> from repo
[10:15] <Chrisrv> bob2 ok
[10:15] <iceman> bob2 thanks ... think i got it now ..
[10:15] <Hajuu> Seveas:  did.. I couldnt see it there...
[10:15] <GNAM> it works
[10:15] <GNAM> but I need to reboot to restart the service?
[10:15] <Hajuu> ill try again
[10:15] <Seveas> GNAM, no
[10:15] <bob2> GNAM: no, not at all
[10:15] <GNAM> ok, what's command ? :P
[10:15] <Chrisrv> will the Gnome dial-up connection manager thing work for me after /dev/modem is properly linked? or will I need the PPP scripts anyway?
[10:15] <Seveas> GNAM, /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:16] <Seveas> GNAM, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:16] <Seveas> you need to do it as rot
[10:16] <Seveas> root*
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Seveas: erm - ssh not sshd I think
[10:16] <GNAM> /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:16] <Seveas> hmm, indeed
[10:16] <GNAM> ok
[10:16] <GNAM> thanks
[10:16] <GNAM> no sshd
[10:16] <GNAM> ;)
[10:16] <iceman> got gdesklets ... thanks
[10:16] <Seveas> weird, calling sshd ssh :)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Chrisrv: I strongly suggest using pppconfig instead
[10:18] <thoreauputic> oh, too late
[10:20] <Hajuu> Ok uhm
[10:20] <Hajuu> I restarted
[10:20] <Hajuu> No sign of enlightenment on my login menu
[10:20] <Hajuu> No sign of any choice of window managers at all
[10:20] <Hajuu> I could chose gnome or failsafe
[10:20] <bob2> yup
[10:21] <Hajuu> So.. Any ideas on how to change my window manager then?
[10:21] <Hajuu> heh
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: have a look at the entry for gnome.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions and make a similar file for enlightenment (I suspect it's missing)
[10:22] <ubuntu> hallo
[10:23] <ubuntu> Hallo bob2
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: the Exec=  line would say /usr/bin/enlightenment I would think
[10:23] <Hajuu> doesnt seem to have anything in there about a window manager
[10:23] <Hajuu> Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-session
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: there should be a gnome.desktop file
[10:24] <Hajuu> yeah thats what that line is from
[10:24] <bob2> gnome-session starts your window manager
[10:24] <jme> ls
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: you will need a new file in there called enlightenment.desktop
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: with the same format
[10:24] <Hajuu> righto
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: I think the enlightenment package fails to set it up
[10:25] <Hajuu> and just point the exec line to the enlightenment exec?
[10:25] <Hajuu> nah it didnt fail
[10:25] <Hajuu> heh
[10:25] <lunitik> Is it true that Thunar is due to replace Nautilus in Ubuntu?  :o
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: try it and see if it works ( it should if you use the same format I think)
[10:26] <Seveas> lunitik, where did you hear that?
[10:26] <Hajuu> cool
[10:26] <Hajuu> will do
[10:26] <Hajuu> thanks
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: if not you will need a ~/.xsession file for it
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: but try this first
[10:26] <lunitik> Seveas, Nat Freidmans latest blog...  " Jeff seemed pretty excited about this; I got the feeling Ubuntu would be switching to Thunar pretty shortly!"
[10:27] <lunitik> Just him guessing? or valid?
[10:27] <Seveas> lunitik, hmm, never heard of such a thing from ubuntu-devs, can you give me the url to that blog please
[10:27] <lunitik> Seveas, umm... just go to planet.g.o and search for friedman  :/
[10:29] <Seveas> lunitik, it's just guessing on his side
[10:32] <kakalto> anyone here played criticalmass?
[10:33] <jyrki007> Hi, does anyone idea to unzip RAR-files? apt-get install "what"?
[10:33] <Burgundavia> jyrki007, unrar-nonfree
[10:33] <lexxan> Hey bob2.. go fuck yourself.
[10:33] <jyrki007> thanks, I am newbie on Ubuntu
[10:34] <snac> unrar
[10:34] <jeff25>  I think automake is broken
[10:35] <jeff25> if I have 3 versions of automake installed... how do I choose which one I want to use?
[10:35] <snac> hello guys , there is someone use ipodder
[10:36] <jeff25> all the symlinks point to /etc/alternatives
[10:36] <bob2> jeff25: right...
[10:36] <bob2> jeff25: update-alternatives --config automake
[10:36] <jeff25> ah
[10:37] <kakalto> anyone used tuxtype?
[10:37] <kakalto> sounds like fun
[10:38] <lesshaste> how do I tell which card   nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0281 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] ) is ?
[10:39] <jeff25> bob2: btw update-alternatives doesn't update stuff in /usr/share.  I updated to automake-1.9 which means that there should be a symlink going to /usr/share/automake-1.9 but it didn't install it
[10:39] <orangerd> does anyone know what i should get in order to get boot splash to work (like gentoo's gensplash or fedora's rhgb)?
[10:39] <cagdas> hi
[10:39] <orangerd> i've seen docs about usplash, but is that anywhere near done?
[10:39] <bob2> jeff25: er, why should there be a symlink pointing there?
[10:40] <jeff25> bob2: because automake-1.9 is using stuff from the old /usr/share/automake dir
[10:40] <jeff25> and it's screwing up my autogen.sh script
[10:40] <cagdas> the ilisp package installation fails while dpkg tries to configure it
[10:40] <cagdas> is this a known bug?
[10:40] <cagdas> how can I handle it?
[10:40] <bob2> jeff25: how sure are you?
[10:41] <jeff25> bob2: well I'm going to test it right now... one sec
[10:41] <Hajuu> Anyone know of a good screen manager other than enlightenment?
[10:41] <cagdas> the error is as follows:
[10:41] <cagdas> emacs-package-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ilisp emacs21 emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 2.
[10:41] <jeff25> bob2: heh even after installing the symlink my autogen.sh still doesn't work right.  I don't know what is up
[10:41] <xun> lesshaste, look at http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=606
[10:42] <jeff25> bob2: so I don't think the symlink is the only problem
[10:42] <orangerd> does ubuntu have a boot splash like thing?
[10:42] <bob2> orangerd: no
[10:43] <orangerd> bob2: ahh..  any plans on getting a boot splash for ubuntu tho?
[10:43] <bob2> yes
[10:43] <orangerd> bob2: usplash?
[10:43] <Seveas> orangerd, usplash is a breezy goal
[10:43] <jeff25> bob2: haha!
[10:43] <lesshaste> xun, thx! :)
[10:43] <jeff25> bob2: the symlinks were the problem
[10:44] <jeff25> bob2: you have to update /usr/share for both aclocal and automake
[10:44] <imaek> I am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?
[10:44] <orangerd> Seveas: ahh, got it ;)  when's breezy gonna be "stable" tho?
[10:44] <jeff25> now my autogen.sh is working fine
[10:44] <bob2> jeff25: I'm pretty sure that's not true
[10:44] <Seveas> orangerd, october
[10:44] <jeff25> bob2: well I just did it
[10:44] <jeff25> bob2: and it's working now
[10:44] <bob2> jeff25: automake in Debian has been like this for years, but I haven't heard of anyone having problems
[10:44] <orangerd> Seveas: cool, thnx for the info :D
[10:45] <jeff25> bob2: I don't know what to tell you... all I did was install a new automake and it didn't work.  I changed the symlinks and it's working now
[10:45] <bob2> jeff25: automake-1.4 and automake-1.9 both use /usr/share/automake-X.Y explicitly
[10:45] <jeff25> bob2: then why do I get errors complaining about blah.m4 in /usr/share/automake ?
[10:46] <bob2> jeff25: what version of automake where you trying to use?
[10:46] <jeff25> automake-1.9
[10:47] <jeff25> bob2: to be honest I don't know if I'm correct or not
[10:47] <jeff25> bob2: all I know is without those symlinks it doesn't work at all
[10:49] <Dsx> anyone able to help with a guidedog/net sharing problem?
[10:50] <yahalom> anyone here use desklets?
[10:51] <yahalom> i have that i cant get rid of and its driving me insane
[10:51] <yahalom> it follows my cursor everywhere so i cant click on it to remove it
[10:51] <Fator_Dee> alt+f2 & xkill?
[10:52] <Chrisrv> bob2: Hello bob, I'm back. I've converted the modem driver using alien into a .deb, installed it, and now I need to edit the makefile. Only one problem...  I've aleady gone to Preferences->Keyboard. Now i have Dvorak and US ENglish. But how do i switch from one to the other?
[10:59] <Chrisrv> bob2: /usr/share/doc/bcmsm/ is the deepest dir, but there is no Makefile in that dir
[11:00] <yahalom> bigfoot, choose sticky switching in the same palce u chose dvorak
[11:01] <yahalom> bigfoot, nevermind, just press both alt keys together it should switch
[11:01] <bob2> Chrisrv: root dir? haha.  copy them to yur home dir and unpack them
[11:02] <navreet> I have a 32bit gentoo partition, how can I run a program from my 32 bit environment? like firefox e.g.
[11:02] <bigfoot> yahalom, l don't see sticky swithching. also, when i press both alt keys, nothing happens.
[11:02] <yahalom> bigfoot, u have a us symbol on ur panel?
[11:03] <Chrisrv> bob2: Sorry, I'm a linux noob. I copied the .spec file and the .tar.gz file to my home dir. How do I unpack them?
[11:03] <bigfoot> no
[11:04] <yahalom> bigfoot, ok so go to preferences>keyboard ok?
[11:04] <bigfoot> ok
[11:04] <Dalkus> Chrisrv, 'tar xvzf filename.tar.gz'  to unpack tar.gz
[11:04] <bigfoot> yahalom, a strange thing. in xchat, it is qwerty. in firefox it is dvorak.
[11:04] <yahalom> bigfoot, layout options
[11:05] <bigfoot> yahalom, ok
[11:05] <yahalom> bigfoot, group shift/lock behavior
[11:05] <Chrisrv> bob2: Thanks! I think i'm getting closer.
[11:06] <yahalom> bigfoot, and choose one
[11:06] <Ubuntian> guys look at this: a laptop with linux pre-installed at 549$ !http://www.microtelpc.com/
[11:06] <Ubuntian> (i'm not working for them buy the way)
[11:06] <Dalkus> Ubuntian, sure... Linux is starting to be pre-installed on desktop pc's too
[11:06] <bigfoot> yahalom, what is currently selected is both alt keys, but it is not working
[11:07] <Ubuntian> desktop yes, a long time ago, but linux on laptop it's rare
[11:07] <yahalom> bigfoot, umm...so sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <Akrame> e
[11:07] <Hajuu> hey
[11:08] <Hajuu> can anyone tell me where I put window manager themes?
[11:08] <Dalkus> Depends on the window manager
[11:08] <lesshaste> is there something faster than tightvnc these days
[11:09] <yahalom> Ubuntian, xandros
[11:12] <joker71> hi
[11:12] <r0d> how can I see what .deb packages i've installed?
[11:13] <joker71> r0d, i dont know sorry
[11:13] <Hajuu> tar -x "/home/hajuu/downloads/fluxbox_themes/eon01-default.tar.gz" -- How come that just sits there not doing anything?
[11:13] <thoreauputic> dpkg -l | less
[11:14] <Hajuu> errr
[11:14] <Hajuu> tar -x "/home/hajuu/downloads/fluxbox_themes/eon01-default.tar.gz" "/usr/share/fluxbox/styles/eon01/
[11:14] <Hajuu> That sorry
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: tar xvzf <file.tar.gz>
[11:14] <jeff25> bob2: if I install development library from one of the repositories and it's out of date... what are my options?  build my own?
[11:14] <Chrisrv> bob2: I looked in the Makefile, and I didn't see any entries where KERNEL_SRC were set, so I just tried to make the package. It didn't give any errors, but also didn't seem to do much. said "BCM V.92 56 Modem Install" and gave a copyright msg and went back to prompt.
[11:15] <bob2> jeff25: "out of date"? e.g.?
[11:15] <bob2> Chrisrv: ok
[11:16] <jeff25> bob2: yeah like say the api changed... and I need a newer version
[11:16] <bob2> jeff25: for example?
[11:16] <joker71> heh
[11:16] <bob2> that doesn't happen much
[11:16] <Hajuu> thoreauputic:  how do I tell it where I want to extract it to?
[11:16] <Chrisrv> bob2: ignore for a sec. I think I see waht I missed.
[11:16] <bob2> if it does, then you need to think carefully
[11:16] <bob2> if it's not in ubuntu, it means it came out very recently
[11:16] <jeff25> bob2: libx264 had one of it's struct members changed in the API
[11:16] <bob2> do you really want to insist your users install that?
[11:17] <jeff25> bob2: me?
[11:17] <bob2> jeff25: lordy
[11:17] <bob2> jeff25: if you depend on a newer version of something than is in ubuntu unstable, you're cutting out a lot of users
[11:17] <bob2> think carefully if that is really good idea
[11:17] <bob2> if so, yes, you have to install it yourself
[11:17] <jeff25> bob2: heh
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: I don't know offhand - i just extract then move, or move first
[11:18] <bob2> or, better still, package it
[11:18] <jeff25> bob2: with all due respect, I could give a rip what other users have.  I just want to install this for a project of mine
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: man tar would know ;)
[11:18] <bob2> okiedokie
[11:18] <jeff25> bob2: libx264 is very developmental and they change the api often
[11:18] <jeff25> bob2: what are my options
[11:18] <Hajuu> just reading now
[11:18] <Hajuu> heh
[11:19] <bob2> 19:17:54           bob2 | if so, yes, you have to install it yourself
[11:19] <bob2> 19:18:01           bob2 | or, better still, package it
[11:19] <jeff25> ah ok
[11:19] <bob2> depending on unstable libraries is a bad idea, tho
[11:19] <jeff25> sorry didn't see
[11:19] <jeff25> bob2: yeah :/
[11:19] <bob2> you should probably be statically linking
[11:19] <jeff25> yeah
[11:19] <bob2> unless you're sure upstream is clueful enough to bump the SONAME when they change the ABI
[11:19] <bob2> (seem most library authors aren't that careful)
[11:19] <Chrisrv> bob2: one last question (i hope) - when sending params to Make, what should I set KERNEL_DIR to?
[11:20] <Hajuu> heh it would seem man tar wouldn't know
[11:20] <bob2> Chrisrv: what it says on that page
[11:20] <jeff25> bob2: well this project I'm working on won't go public for awhile... it's just for testing and to learn a new api for work
[11:20] <bob2> Hajuu: cd wherever ; tar -jxf blah.tar.bz2
[11:20] <bob2> jeff25: ah
[11:20] <Chrisrv> bob2: It says use that for the KERNEL_SRC var. Same thing?
[11:20] <bob2> Chrisrv: I have no idea, I've never looked at the driver
[11:21] <jacquesmerde> the wiki page on adding java support says to add hoary AND warty repos...is that right???
[11:21] <jeff25> bob2: thanks for the help
[11:21] <Chrisrv> bob2: ok, i'll try it and see what happens =)
[11:21] <bob2> Chrisrv: does it really have both those in the makefile?
[11:21] <bob2> jeff25: np
[11:21] <joker71> on a lappy no less
[11:21] <bob2> jacquesmerde: no
[11:21] <jeff25> bob2: I'm quite new to ubuntu and to .deb's in general
[11:21] <bob2> jeff25: ah
[11:21] <joker71> jeff25, welcome to the Dark Side
[11:21] <jeff25> joker71: hehe
[11:21] <jacquesmerde> bob2, which wiki page should i be looking at then?
[11:21] <bob2> jeff25: ubuntu/debian unstable tends to track new upstream libraries pretty quickly
[11:21] <bob2> jeff25: like, quickly enough that you don't bother building it yourself
[11:22] <pwn3r> whenever i start my computer i have to manually run dhclient :(
[11:22] <bob2> pwn3r: configure /etc/network/interfaces properly
[11:22] <jeff25> bob2: I'll have to check those out
[11:22] <bob2> pwn3r: ie:
[11:22] <bob2> auto eth0
[11:22] <bob2> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:22] <joker71> i have suse on my desktop and i have no choice and i hate it, i love debian
[11:23] <pwn3r> thanks bob, i wan missing the auto eth0 line
[11:23] <cyphase> joker71, why do you have no choice?
[11:23] <cyphase> worc computer?
[11:23] <cyphase> work*
[11:23] <Chrisrv> bob2: Doh. Shot down. Make tells me that GCC is not found on my system.  Does that matter?
[11:24] <glick> why does my custom kernel work flawlessly in debian and not in ubuntu?
[11:24] <bob2> Chrisrv: yes
[11:24] <Hajuu> is there a way I can have more than one login running X?
[11:24] <bob2> Chrisrv: also, bear in mind you'll have to do this all over again when you install ubuntu
[11:24] <bob2> glick: you're being too vague for anyone to help you
[11:24] <bob2> Hajuu: sure
[11:24] <joker71> ive actually smoked two MBR's on 2 hard drives
[11:25] <Hajuu> howso?
[11:25] <bob2> Hajuu: login on a terminal, run "startx -- :1", enjoy
[11:25] <Hajuu> cheers
[11:25] <bob2> Hajuu: there's a gnome applet to automate it, too
[11:25] <joker71> howso at me?
[11:25] <Chrisrv> bob2: Yeah, i realize that. I was trying to see if I could get the modem to work before doing a real install. So.. If it does matter. how do I do the install off the live-cd for the build tools?
[11:25] <bob2> Chrisrv: you almost certainly need network connectivity for that
[11:25] <HappyFool> how about Applications -> System tools -> New Login ?
[11:25] <glick> bob2, when i compiled and installed this kernel in ubuntu my dns kept breaking at random times, resulting in gnome take 10+ minutes to start, and my ethernet card would not be activated during boot
[11:26] <Chrisrv> bob2: And thanks a TON for all this help. You're way too busy for this early in the morning/late at night.
[11:26] <glick> id have to manuall do ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient
[11:26] <joker71> anyway on this machine my IBM celery 700 imin Icewm and its a nice gooey
[11:26] <joker71> gotta love think pads
[11:26] <bob2> glick: and rebooting with the ubuntu default kernel works perfectly?
[11:26] <glick> bob2, yes
[11:26] <bob2> glick: why did you build a custom kernel, anyway?
[11:26] <bob2> glick: that just means your kernel is broken
[11:26] <yahalom> desklets help please!
[11:27] <bob2> Chrisrv: np...it's 1930 sunday here.
[11:27] <Hajuu> ok uhm.. I did that.. its all logged in etc etc... but It wont let me do anything... nothing runs
[11:27] <bob2> yahalom: beer please!
[11:27] <glick> bob2, my external firewire drive is not supported properly by stock kernels
[11:27] <bob2> glick: is it supported in 2.6.12?
[11:27] <joker71> Sun May 29 03:27:49 MDT 2005
[11:27] <yahalom> bob2, cheers :)
[11:27] <glick> bob2, lol how can you say my kernel is broken it works perfectly on my deb box
[11:27] <Chrisrv> bob2: You know... I think I'm going to go to bed. Get up tomorrow. Go to walmart. and buy a supported modem =)
[11:27] <glick> on the same hardware
[11:27] <bob2> Chrisrv: hah
[11:27] <glick> bob2, its supported in 2.6.11-9
[11:27] <bob2> Chrisrv: at least you learnt a lot
[11:27] <glick> thats what i have runnin
[11:27] <bob2> glick: it's broken in that it doesn't work
[11:28] <bob2> glick: how do you suppose ubuntu could differ from Debian such that dns breaks only with your kernel?
[11:28] <glick> bob2, its not broken on debian
[11:28] <Chrisrv> bub2: True. and to think. all this work is just so I can get a mud-server up and running for fun. hehe
[11:28] <Chrisrv> bub2? = bob2 =)
[11:28] <bob2> Chrisrv: external serial modems will work out of the box, even with the livecd
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: you are in fluxbox?
[11:28] <Chrisrv> bob2: Thanks
[11:28] <Chrisrv> Well I need sleep. Night all
[11:28] <glick> bob2, i dont know its a mystery, i got dns working my re doing my host file and dnsdomainame file and restarting dns
[11:29] <glick> then it worked for 10 mintues
[11:29] <glick> then it went down again
[11:29] <hunger> Hi... Just installed ubuntu-desktop. It feels rather sluggish... what am I doing wrong?
[11:29] <bob2> glick: "restarting dns"?
[11:29] <bob2> hunger: what sort of computer is it?
[11:29] <glick> the name resolution services
[11:29] <bob2> glick: there is no "name resolution services"
[11:29] <Yoshimitsu> hunger did you do your own partitioning or did you let the installer do it for you
[11:29] <Yoshimitsu> it could be that you havent allowed for enough Swap mem
[11:30] <Hajuu> thoreauputic:  not yet.. trying to get another simultanious logon to run it heh
[11:30] <Hajuu> Cause I cant be bothered logging out
[11:30] <bob2> if you don't have swap, things get randomly killed
[11:30] <glick> bob2, dns
[11:30] <bob2> it doesn't make things slow
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: gdmflexiserver
[11:30] <bob2> glick: and how do you "restart dns"?  what command do you run?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: type that in a terminal
[11:30] <Yoshimitsu> roger roger
[11:31] <glick> bob2 I did it by rebooting
[11:31] <Hajuu> that returns
[11:31] <Hajuu> Gtk warning: cannot open display.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: hmm
[11:31] <bob2> HappyFool: that is awesome
[11:31] <bob2> thanks for pointing it out
[11:31] <jacquesmerde> which repo is sun-j2re1.5 in?
[11:31] <bob2> glick: er
[11:31] <bob2> glick: so your complaint is that you have to reboot your custom kernel every ten minutes?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: it's in the menu under system as "login as another user " or something
[11:31] <glick> bob2, whatever its called gnome needs a valid fqhn
[11:32] <glick> and for some reason whatever looks up your hostname in the hostfile when a the connect() system call is made
[11:32] <glick> broke
[11:32] <glick> bind
[11:32] <glick> or whatever its called
[11:32] <bob2> I can't even imagine how to compile a kernel that would do that
[11:32] <glick> anyway as a result it stopped working
[11:32] <glick> bob2, it doesnt do it on my debian machine
[11:33] <bob2> just get the ubuntu source
[11:33] <Hajuu> hmmm
[11:33] <augul> jaquesmerde: u can download tar from java and install it yourself - really easy
[11:33] <bob2> kernel source
[11:33] <Hajuu> okee dokee
[11:33] <bob2> use the ubuntu config
[11:33] <jacquesmerde> augul, tar not bin?
[11:33] <hondje> Hi.  Where is the transcode package in the repositories?
[11:33] <bob2> add whatever patch it is you say you need
[11:33] <bob2> then compile
[11:33] <bob2> hondje: it's not
[11:33] <bob2> hondje: it doesn't build on ubuntu
[11:33] <r0d> whats a good cd burning tool. mostly for .iso images?
[11:33] <hondje> oh, that sucks...so no point making my own package
[11:33] <Hajuu> Its the same deal though.. when I log in as hajuu twice.. nothing works.. I cant open anything.. nothing on my menus work etc etc
[11:33] <jacquesmerde> augul, there seem to be a million different instructions to install java on the wiki and forums...
[11:33] <bob2> r0d: nautilus.  right click on the .iso file in the file manager, click write to cd
[11:33] <Yoshimitsu> r0d try GnomeBaker
[11:34] <augul> jaquesmerde - its packed, so you gotta unpack it first and than install it
[11:34] <bob2> Hajuu: er, gnome doesn't like you logging in twice
[11:34] <bob2> Hajuu: why do you want to do that?
[11:34] <bob2> ilbahr: please turn that off
[11:34] <bob2> hondje: you could fix the package for it
[11:34] <jacquesmerde> augul, is there a page describing your method somewhere?
[11:34] <Hajuu> I was trying to have one running gnome.. one running fluxbox
[11:34] <Yoshimitsu> anyone got Mplayer running right
[11:34] <hondje> oh, then I shall carry on :)
[11:34] <bob2> Hajuu: did fluxbox start on the other one ok?
[11:34] <JohnnyRotten> how do you switch users in gnome without logging out
[11:34] <bob2> Yoshimitsu: yes
[11:34] <bob2> JohnnyRotten: application menu -> system tools -> new login
[11:35] <augul> go to www.java.com - got to jre doenload, there is a doco which tells You how to install it (step by step)
[11:35] <Yoshimitsu> bob2 i got it running on Ubuntu PPC using Mplayer-g4. however when i run it i get an error
[11:35] <Hajuu> bob2:  no.. it decided it would rather just run gnome instead for some reason :/
[11:35] <bob2> Yoshimitsu: you'd need to tell us the error...
[11:35] <bob2> Hajuu: how did you indicate to GDM that you wanted to run fluxbox?
[11:35] <jeff25> I compiled transcode on ubuntu
[11:35] <Yoshimitsu> im working on that now bob2
[11:36] <JohnnyRotten> i just want to switch to xcfe but dont want to log out
[11:36] <JohnnyRotten> thanks
[11:36] <bob2> jeff25: yes, it compiles fine
[11:36] <hondje> jeff25: ah cool, can you make a deb of that?
[11:36] <jacquesmerde> augul, thanks
[11:36] <jeff25> it was a pita
[11:36] <Hajuu> ohhh
[11:36] <Hajuu> I found it
[11:36] <bob2> jeff25: but the ubuntu source package is broken
[11:36] <Hajuu> s'ok
[11:36] <bob2> hondje: it compiles fine
[11:36] <Hajuu> dont stress
[11:36] <jeff25> bob2: yeah
[11:36] <Hajuu> all is well
[11:36] <Hajuu> hehe
[11:36] <jeff25> bob2: I compiled from tar.gz
[11:36] <bob2> hondje: the problem is just with the build-dependencies
[11:36] <hondje> oh, that's no biggie
[11:36] <Yoshimitsu> this is the error i get @ bob2. Failed to open /home/acidwolf/<
[11:36] <hondje> Need an excuse to download a bunch of libs anyways, better sooner than later
[11:36] <jeff25> hondje: just compile from tar.gz and use checkinstall
[11:36] <bob2> Yoshimitsu: I really doubt that is the entire error
[11:37] <Yoshimitsu> yeah it is
[11:37] <Logi> RifRaf: ekki g ig?
[11:37] <bob2> Yoshimitsu: then show us the command line you tried to run
[11:37] <Yoshimitsu> a littlw window pops up and gives me that error
[11:37] <Yoshimitsu> ok
[11:37] <augul> jaquesmerde: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[11:37] <hondje> jeff25: did you use the stable or 1.0 beta?
[11:37] <Yoshimitsu> from the commandline i get no error when i run it
[11:37] <Logi> I just saw a story about HP offering Ubuntu in selected areas in Europe and certian models.
[11:38] <augul> jaquesmerde: hope that helps
[11:38] <jeff25> hondje: stable
[11:38] <bob2> Logi: yes
[11:38] <Logi> Does anyone know *which* areas are selected?
[11:38] <Hajuu> ok.. in fluxbox.. why is it when I open nautilus, it screws with all my settings and changes my background to the gnome ubuntu one?
[11:38] <hondje> okay, then away I shall go
[11:38] <bob2> Logi: their website doesn't mention it?
[11:38] <Logi> are these upcoming models or could I buy one now/soon if I happened to be in a selected area?
[11:38] <Yoshimitsu> however when i try to play something from either gui or commandline it freezes and then doesnt respond for ages . and i dont even get a force quit option when it goes unresponsive
[11:38] <bob2> Hajuu: because that's what nautilus does
[11:38] <Logi> bob2: hmm.. I suppose I should have checked, shouldn't I :)
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: run nautilus --no-desktop
[11:38] <bob2> Hajuu: if you don't want it to setup the background, configure it not to (in gconf-editor)
[11:38] <Logi> bob2: I saw a news article elsewhere
[11:39] <Hajuu> will do
[11:39] <bob2> Hajuu: also, nautilus will be unhappy if you run it twice, once from gnome, once from fluxbox
[11:39] <Hajuu> yeah?
[11:39] <Hajuu> whys that?
[11:39] <grahagre> you should use xnest
[11:39] <JohnnyRotten> are there any programs to edit themes in linux like stylebuilder on windows?
[11:39] <Logi> browsing is a bit cumbersome at the moment, since my thinkpad is basically dead and launching X crashes it
[11:39] <bob2> JohnnyRotten: linux doesn't have themes, things like gnome and kde and xmms do
[11:41] <JohnnyRotten> well something that edits kde/gnome ones in the same way style builder on windows does
[11:41] <othernoob> hi, how do i uninstall gnome ?
[11:42] <Hajuu> how can I force another login to logout from this central one?
[11:42] <bob2> othernoob: why?
[11:42] <bob2> Hajuu: you can't
[11:42] <bob2> Hajuu: or you can, by switching back
[11:42] <Hajuu> I cant?? But some of the logins are screwed up and wont logout or allow me to do anything..
[11:43] <bob2> then kill them
[11:43] <Hajuu> how?
[11:43] <augul> You can kill it | run ps -eaf |grep username after that kill pid
[11:43] <othernoob> bob2: i use kubuntu, last night i installed gnome because of a prog that requires gnome, i just tested it, it's not worth it..so )
[11:43] <othernoob> ;)
[11:43] <Hajuu> cheers augul
[11:43] <bob2> othernoob: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgtk2.0
[11:43] <augul> Hajuu: no probs
[11:43] <Yoshimitsu> bob2 i get no errors when i run mplayer from the commandline however im still unable to play things with it , it crashes
[11:43] <bob2> othernoob: that will get rid of all of it, tho, so be very very very careful
[11:43] <Hajuu> uhm.. theres like... 100 things there..
[11:43] <Hajuu> which ones do I kill?
[11:44] <bob2> Hajuu: you need to be more specific before you break something
[11:44] <othernoob> bob2: but it will only get rid of all the gnome related progs which were installed last ngiht, right ?
[11:44] <bob2> Hajuu: do you want to kill an entire user?
[11:44] <Hajuu> heh yeah
[11:44] <Hajuu> no
[11:44] <bob2> othernoob: nope
[11:44] <Hajuu> just certian logins of that user
[11:44] <bob2> othernoob: if you want that, use aptitude in future
[11:44] <lifeless> bob2: I believe that is illegal ;)
[11:44] <bob2> Hajuu: yes, exactly, so you need to look at the output of augul's command very carefully
[11:44] <bob2> lifeless: not on the isle of man!
[11:45] <othernoob> bob2: what else would it delete ?
[11:45] <bob2> othernoob: anything using gtk
[11:45] <bob2> othernoob: you said you wanted to get rid of gnome, remember
[11:45] <othernoob> bob2: yea. so, since i have a standard kubuntu installation, nothing requires gtk i assume ?
[11:45] <bob2> othernoob: I don't know
[11:46] <bob2> openoffic might
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> =[ trackers down?  How am I gonna make an install-live DVD?
[11:46] <Yoshimitsu> brb im gonna go break mplayer quick
[11:46] <Hajuu> screw it.. im just going to restart
[11:46] <Hajuu> heh
[11:47] <tiglionabbit> can I get it from jigdo?
[11:47] <Yoshimitsu> isnt there anything else that plays Divx besides Mplayer
[11:47] <bob2> Yoshimitsu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:47] <Yoshimitsu> yeah tried that and Mplayer is the only thing listed there for divx
[11:47] <tiglionabbit> you mean http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:48] <hondje> oh this is nice, all the deps are in the install page
[11:48] <othernoob> Yoshimitsu: vlc
[11:48] <Yoshimitsu> i tried vlc
[11:48] <Fator_Dee> Yoshimitsu: xine
[11:48] <Yoshimitsu> doesnt work
[11:48] <Yoshimitsu> neither does Xine
[11:48] <othernoob> Kaffeine ?
[11:48] <Yoshimitsu> not on kde
[11:49] <Fator_Dee> do you have installed the pack for codecs? it says what to install on the wiki-page
[11:49] <Yoshimitsu> yes i have them installed
[11:49] <Yoshimitsu> they were on the repo i added to sources
[11:50] <Yoshimitsu> apparently this is what i need to find libavcodec
[11:51] <augul> tried raid 1 on two different (size,make) scsi drives, raid array shows 18,2 GB (first drive 18.2 second 73.6 GB) why is that, i was hoping i will get 91.8 GB array ?
[11:52] <bob2> isn't raid-0 spanning?
[11:53] <augul> i though 0 is mirror ?
[11:53] <bob2> I don't know, you're the one using it ;)
[11:53] <JohnnyRotten> bob2, are there any programs like stylebuild to make themes for gnome or kde
[11:53] <bob2> JohnnyRotten: I don't know what stylebuild is
[11:53] <bob2> and I don't know of any gtk or qt gui thee editors
[11:56] <augul> bob2 - such stupid mistake wasted an hour of my time - of course I should have done 0
[11:56] <augul> bob2: thanks for pointing out the obvious - silly me ; (
[11:56] <bob2> augul: heh, np
[11:57] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the admnis have been notified, they'll get to it when they can
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> alright.  I hope it happens before monday
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> say, unrelated to ubuntu, can I ask about nickserv?
[11:58] <hondje> jeff25: good lord, you weren't kidding about the number of libs
[11:58] <luisje> hola nadie habla castellano aaqui?
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> it says if I put in "access" hostnames, I'll be able to login without having to use identify all the time.  But I have put in hostnames, and it still asks me to identify.  what gives?
[11:59] <bob2> this is pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel
[11:59] <bob2> lifeless: #ubuntu-es
[11:59] <luisje> bueno pues hasta luego. gracias
[12:00] <lifeless> bob2: ?
[12:00] <bob2> bah
[12:00] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: not sure what client you're using, but maybe you can set it up to automatically send your nick when you connect to the server
[12:01] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: x-chat has an option for that, and i'm sure other clients would too
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> I mainly use irssi.  I tried adding the command to it, but it..  still didn't work
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> so I tried gaim, which asks for a password with your account, but that didn't work either
[12:01] <bob2> it does work in irssi
[12:01] <cgc> Hi...
[12:01] <bob2> you need to identify everytime you connect
[12:02] <cgc> Somebody can help with a wireless configuration problem???
[12:02] <nevyn> maybe
[12:02] <nevyn> if you ask the actual question it's more likely
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> if you say so, bob, but I tried adding the command to my /ircnet list and it.. didn't change anything
[12:03] <bob2> works for me
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> so you can't get it to recognize you by the hostnames you use?
[12:03] <jeff25> hondje: yeah it's a pain
[12:03] <bob2> nope
[12:03] <bob2> I'd hope it would never do that
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> brb
[12:04] <hondje> couple aren't aptable as far as I see, but they don't seem too important to my purposes
[12:04] <jeff25> hondje: use the stable version because the untable version uses libs that are also unstable
[12:04] <jeff25> hondje: meaning that some of the libs have changed apis
[12:05] <hondje> yeah, I'm using stable...I'm a stable kinda guy :)
[12:05] <jeff25> heh
[12:05] <augul> time for me, bye everyone !
[12:09] <ABRAXAS77> somebody know channel in spanish of ubuntu?
[12:09] <HappyFool> tried #ubuntu-es ?
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> #ubuntu-es I believe
[12:09] <n3C> yes
[12:10] <Flav> si
[12:10] <ABRAXAS77> thank you
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> hmm, is there any way to get gaim to tell nickserv my password?  I get paranoid typing passwords in when people could be standing behind me
[12:11] <ABRAXAS77> tiglionabbit, use script
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> for gaim?
[12:11] <ABRAXAS77> ah,for gaim
[12:11] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i just installed vanilla warty - if i update my sources.list for hoary will it install additional packages, or just update the ones already on the system?
[12:11] <ABRAXAS77> but in gaim u can put remember the password tiglionabbit
[12:12] <hondje> oh, this just isn't fair...gtk libs, too? :(
[12:12] <JohnnyRotten> anyone know why when logging out there is a black strip across the top of the screen that looks like it has red japennese text or chinise
[12:12] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: i don't know, but i imagine you'd get a 'vanilla' hoary
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> abraxas77: I do that, but nickserv still asks
[12:12] <bob2> johnnybezak: it will install new ones as needed
[12:12] <bob2> johnnybezak: asusming you use aptitude/synaptic or apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <ABRAXAS77> is impossible tiglionabbit...i use gaim,i have this option and never ask me
[12:13] <HappyFool> JohnnyRotten: just video card driver crap, i think.
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> well it does.  I don't know what to tell ya
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> I just did it now
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> I type my password into the password box, yes?  I have nothing under alias.
[12:15] <JohnnyRotten> Is there anyway to get rid of it? or am I stuck with it :)
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> johnnyrotten: That sounds weird.  I haven't seen that.  Is it in GDM?
[12:17] <johnnybezak> bob2: roger
[12:17] <JohnnyRotten> its right before the gdm when loging out
[12:17] <Simira> firefox-help?   What's different?
[12:19] <johnnybezak> my new laptop has a 4mb ati card in it, is it worth getting ati drivers?
[12:19] <JohnnyRotten> haha
[12:19] <abraxas> ah,is freenode!
[12:20] <bob2> johnnybezak: it is probably supportd (with 3d acceleration) byu the Free drivers anyway
[12:20] <johnnybezak> bob2: awesome
[12:20] <johnnybezak> bob2: do ati open their old cards
[12:20] <hondje> jeff25: Did you get liblve?
[12:20] <bob2> johnnybezak: I think it's partly that they document it and partly people eventually figure it out
[12:21] <johnnybezak> bob2: cool
[12:22] <jenskristian> Have anyone tried to install XD-skippy?
[12:22] <JohnnyRotten> 117 megs of updates on dialup :(
[12:22] <Fator_Dee> JohnnyRotten: happy downloading
[12:22] <johnnybezak> i hope that getting pppoe running is easier than last time i installed ubuntu
[12:23] <bob2> sudo pppoeconf
[12:23] <bob2> enjoy!
[12:23] <johnnybezak> yeah last time i had routing issues (i didnt know what i was doing hehe)
[12:24] <bob2> that's probably because you setup a NIC with a default route
[12:24] <bob2> and pppd said "oh, this person must know what they're doing, I won't break it"
[12:24] <johnnybezak> bob2: yeah youre right
[12:24] <johnnybezak> hope i don't do it this time
[12:24] <bob2> just disable that route and it'll work
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> darn, guess I've gotta wait for people to get on the bittorrent.  It says it'll take over a day to complete
[12:25] <bob2> it's seeded by a machine on gigabit ethernet to the internet
[12:25] <djsixto> hi
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> dude, if I run a graphical application using screen, and then log out of xserver, will it continue to run?
[12:26] <johnnybezak> bob2: yeah thats what i did last time
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: no
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: use bittornado
[12:26] <djsixto> holas
[12:26] <JohnnyRotten> Does anyone know if a Microsoft usb wifi adapter will working in linux? I am guessing the answer is no but just checking
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> don't use the gnome bittorrent client installed by default?
[12:26] <djsixto> holas
[12:26] <djsixto> comoestan
[12:27] <jenskristian> A NETWM or GNOME WM Specs compliant window-manager.    Is ubuntus window manager this?
[12:27] <vulcanoo> bonjour  tous
[12:27] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: isn't it under applications -> internet -> gnome bittorrent ?
[12:27] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: i don't *think* i installed it deliberately
[12:27] <bob2> tiglionabbit: not if you wnaant to run it in screen
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> what?  There were funky characters in that, bob2
[12:27] <pluffsy> hi
[12:27] <bob2> johnnybezak: yes, metacity is
[12:28] <bob2> tiglionabbit: if you want to run a bittorent client in screen, don't use the default one
[12:28] <pluffsy> sorry if this is dumb, but I can't find it. what is the password for the root on the ubuntu livecd? I tried to su and just type enter as password, didn't work.
[12:28] <bob2> use bittornado's btdownloadcurses
[12:28] <johnnybezak> bob2: sorry
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> *gets bittornado ncurses from synaptic
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> will bittornado run faster than gnome bittorrent, just like it runs faster than the usual bittorrent client?
[12:29] <HappyFool> pluffsy: try 'sudo -i' with no password ?
[12:29] <r0d> whats a good gui interface for iptables in gnome?
[12:29] <bob2> jenskristian: yes, metacity is
[12:29] <Fator_Dee> r0d: firestarter
[12:29] <pluffsy> HappyFool: Oh, didn't know you could do that. Thanks :)
[12:30] <HappyFool> pluffsy: neither did i for the live cd ;) but i know su doesn't work in normal ubuntu
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> uhh, installed the bittornado client, but, how do I call it?  I can't find a command
[12:32] <Zaratustra> somebody can install gcc 4 in ubuntu?
[12:32] <Hajuu> How can I completely remove something I installed using apt-get ?
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> apt-get remove
[12:32] <Aegir> Ding
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> or does that leave configuration?
[12:32] <Zaratustra> ubuntu will kill me
[12:32] <lifeless> that leaves config
[12:33] <lifeless> Zaratustra: gcc 4 is in universe for hoary
[12:33] <Hajuu> how do I remove EVERYTHING then?
[12:33] <lifeless> Zaratustra: sudo aptitude install gcc4
[12:33] <wezzer> rm -rf /
[12:33] <Zaratustra> lifeless, what is sudo?
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> sudo is super do
[12:33] <Hajuu> weazle_:  : what.. and track down each and every dir? :/
[12:33] <lifeless> Zaratustra: a command that gets root privileges for one action
[12:33] <Hajuu> sudo is Super User Do
[12:34] <Zaratustra> im root lifeless
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> don't be root
[12:34] <Hajuu> well you shouldnt be
[12:34] <Hajuu> heh
[12:34] <johnnybezak> in ubuntu you don't use root
[12:34] <olly-bh> Hajuu: apt-get remove --purge
[12:34] <Zaratustra> why?
[12:34] <johnnybezak> you use sudo
[12:34] <Zaratustra> aaaaahhhhhhhhh
[12:34] <johnnybezak> read the faq
[12:34] <Zaratustra> now i understand
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> because people can hax0r j00
[12:34] <Hajuu> heh
[12:34] <johnnybezak> so instead of su - / command
[12:35] <lifeless> Hajuu: dpkg -P package
[12:35] <johnnybezak> just sudo commandname
[12:35] <Zaratustra> so te command is "sudo make"?
[12:35] <lifeless> Zaratustra: you should not build software as root
[12:35] <lifeless> Zaratustra: so you should only use sudo to do an adminstrative task
[12:35] <pluffsy> I have another problem if anyone has time. I can't get vlc to function from the livecd. It plays a small bit of video, then stops, etc, etc. and the sound doesn't work (in vlc).
[12:35] <pluffsy> I'm running the Ubuntu Live CD PPC
[12:36] <Zaratustra> lifeless, but still i have the error
[12:36] <Hajuu> Yeah my sound in VLC doesn't work either
[12:37] <Zaratustra> abraxas@ABRAXAS:~/Desktop/gcc-4.0.0$ sudo make
[12:37] <Zaratustra> Configuring in fastjar
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure: loading cache ./config.cache
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure: error: `CFLAGS' has changed since the previous run:
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure:   former value:  -g -O2
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure:   current value: -g -O2
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure: error: changes in the environment can compromise the build
[12:37] <Zaratustra> configure: error: run `make distclean' and/or `rm ./config.cache' and start over
[12:37] <Zaratustra> make: *** [configure-fastjar]  Error 1
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> don't paste here..
[12:37] <Zaratustra> sorry
[12:39] <Zaratustra> those errors are normal?
[12:39] <Zaratustra> i did full installation
[12:39] <johnnybezak> anyone here know a good acpi guide?
[12:41] <hayden> how do i change the computer name of an ubuntu machine?
[12:41] <Seveas> hayden, edit /etc/hostname and restart
[12:41] <Seveas> hayden, edit /etc/hosts to
[12:41] <Seveas> too*
[12:41] <hayden> ok thanks
[12:42] <hayden> how do i check the computer name?
[12:42] <ompaul> hostname
[12:42] <hayden> thanks omalley ;)
[12:42] <ompaul> 'sudo hostname newname' also works
[12:43] <Fator_Dee> Stick of Sudo +2
[12:44] <ompaul> hostname - show or set the system's host name
[12:44] <Hajuu> whats the command to restart apache2?
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> oh no, ubuntu left.  Now how can we have a channel about him?
[12:44] <hayden> 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[12:45] <zubuntu> hi :)
[12:45] <ompaul> lo :)
[12:46] <Hajuu> how can I make a new alias to run the restart command?
[12:46] <zubuntu> how are you doing?
[12:47] <ompaul> we are all doing ubuntu :)
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> hajuu: alias thing="the command to make it restart"
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> assuming you're in bash
[12:47] <jenskristian> Argh... installed skippy, but it does show the wrong text over the windows :S
[12:47] <Hajuu> bash: alias: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart: not found
[12:48] <Hajuu> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache2 # alias apache2-restart= "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[12:48] <Hajuu> Thats the line I run
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> no spaces
[12:48] <Hajuu> whoops
[12:48] <jenskristian> hm, try a restart
[12:48] <Hajuu> nice
[12:48] <Hajuu> thanks
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[12:49] <rickard> how can I tell the mixer to record only from the microphone and not record "what u hear" ?
[12:50] <johnnybezak> what do i type to update the distro/?
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> jonnybezak: You mean upgrade from warty to hoary, or to just upgrade all packages?
[12:51] <HappyFool> i think there's a wiki page on upgrading from warty to hoary
[12:55] <HappyFool> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[12:56] <christos> hello
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> wow, so you can upgrade your distro just by saying apt-get upgrade?
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> oh, dist-upgrade
[12:57] <christos> i just installed hoary on a sony vaio and i have problems with volume
[12:57] <christos> it's too low
[12:57] <m4lc0m> Hi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance
[12:57] <goo> Hello. Anyone knows where I can get the synce-gnome-vfs package ?
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> christos: how can volume be slow?  You mean the application that handles volume?
[12:57] <liable> christos: alsamixer
[12:57] <goo> It's very hard to find.. :/
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> I don't get it
[12:58] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: low, not slow
[12:58] <competenCe> can anyone help me with this error when im compiling, http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6218
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> oh cripes, I must be tired...
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> so sorry
[12:58] <Fator_Dee> :-)
[12:59] <thoreauputic> competenCe: umm... visual basic? This is a linux channel...
[12:59] <herpes> competenCe, you are asking for help on something that doesnt compile on a windows platform....
[01:00] <competenCe> ...
[01:00] <christos> alsamixer improved the headphone level - i just noticed i hear nothing from speakers
[01:00] <herpes> competenCe, no one cares about windows
[01:00] <m4lc0m> :)
[01:00] <podge> competenCe : Do you mean Visual C++?
[01:00] <competenCe> ...
[01:00] <competenCe> yes podge
[01:00] <thoreauputic> competenCe: I think you are... a bit off-topic here
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> visual basic c++, that's funny
[01:00] <competenCe> i use both fedora and windows
[01:01] <liable> hahaha
[01:01] <tito> lol
[01:01] <liable> competenCe: go away please
[01:01] <m4lc0m> Yes but here the topic is Ubuntu help
[01:01] <HappyFool> maybe ask in #c or #c++ ;-)
[01:01] <christos> alsamixer improved the headphone level - i just noticed i hear nothing from speakers
[01:01] <m4lc0m> try to type /j #visualc++ or something similar
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> we can't debug your code if we can't see your code anyway.  The errors are on line numbers
[01:02] <liable> christos: nothing at all from the speakers?
[01:02] <m4lc0m> Hi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance
[01:02] <christos> nothing at all
[01:03] <HappyFool> what is pptp? (excuse my ignorance)
[01:03] <podge> competenCe : You are missing some includes.. check this link.. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mib/mib/mib_icmp_ex.asp
[01:03] <m4lc0m> HappyFool: is a tool for using VPN under linux
[01:03] <herpes> HappyFool, point to point tunneling protocol
[01:03] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[01:03] <zubuntu> winsuck32.dll
[01:03] <thoreauputic> podge: don't encourage him, please: he should ask in the appropriate place
[01:04] <liable> christos: does lsmod show a pcspkr module loaded?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> w3schools says PPTP is Point to Point Tunneling Protocol
[01:04] <podge> thoreauputic : no worries..
[01:05] <podge> thoreauputic : Not even an attempt to convert to Linux? Just tell him to rack off?
[01:05] <thoreauputic> podge: no, don't tell him to rack off - just that he should ask windows questions in windows forums
[01:06] <Fator_Dee> maybe he should go to #windows :-<
[01:06] <podge> Who here is using X-Chat?
[01:06] <novaflare> me
[01:06] <christos> i run lsmod and i don't see pcspkr - the headphones are low compares to win
[01:06] <HappyFool> podge: me
[01:07] <goo> gah. So many old Gnome VFS modules does not work in 2.10 anymore.. why the f*** couldn't they just retain som esort of backwards compability :(
[01:07] <podge> I want to be able to click on a name in the main window and have it come up in my message bar..
[01:07] <m4lc0m> christos: try to doubleclick on the volume icon in the system tray, may be then you can set the PCM volume
[01:07] <liable> christos: sudo modprobe -l |grep pc*
[01:08] <podge> I am finding it difficult to type "thoreauputic" over and over.. *grin*
[01:08] <zubuntu> well got go, just passed by to tell you good morning :)
[01:08] <thoreauputic> podge: type thor <tab>
[01:08] <podge> thoreauputic : NICE!!
[01:08] <m4lc0m> so? nobdy know nothing about net and VPN under linux?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> podge: :)
[01:08] <herpes> i know this is off topic, but does anyone know what happend to the tetris clone extension for firefox, its not listed under entertaiment any more
[01:08] <zubuntu> zubuntu@zubuntu: make -all love
[01:09] <HappyFool> m4lc0m: try again later
[01:09] <podge> thoreauputic : Feels like bash now..
[01:09] <zubuntu> zubuntu@zubuntu: cd /irc/ubuntu ls alive.*
[01:10] <christos> i get many lines maybe you're looking for that : /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko
[01:10] <HappyFool> herpes: i know this is not an answer ;) but searching for 'tetris' in synaptic gives me about 20 hits. Maybe you can find a suitable substitute there.
[01:10] <liable> christos: yah, modprobe it
[01:11] <zubuntu> modprobe -life -ubuntu
[01:11] <herpes> HappyFool, true, have you tried barstard tetris?
[01:11] <Hajuu> anyone here set up apache2?
[01:12] <HappyFool> herpes: heh. no. just read the description.
[01:12] <herpes> HappyFool, its fun :)
[01:12] <zubuntu> ./set mode -shut_this_f**ing_mouth off
[01:12] <christos> i get pcspkr.ko not found
[01:12] <podge> tetris for firefox? Is it called blockfall? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=12803
[01:12] <liable> zubuntu: anyhing actually worthwile saying?
[01:12] <HappyFool> herpes: whenever i play tetris i get the feeling that's happening *anyway*
[01:12] <zubuntu> actually -no
[01:13] <zubuntu> and i'm feeling ashamed
[01:13] <liable> christos: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[01:13] <zubuntu> ./make zubuntu happy -now
[01:13] <christos> same
[01:14] <podge> The link to Tetris is broken.. :(
[01:14] <HappyFool> Hajuu: i have done some very simple apache2 setups
[01:14] <zubuntu> zubuntu@ubuntu: logout
[01:14] <liable> christos: what sound card?
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> grr, I can't get kde to open links in firefox instead of konqueror
[01:14] <zubuntu> have a nice day folks and sorry i was a little bit sad... don't know why :(
[01:15] <Hajuu> HappyFool:  wtf is the deal with this sites-available/ and sites-enabled/ stuff?
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> I set firefox as my default browser, and I even associated html and xml files with firefox
[01:15] <HappyFool> Hajuu: if i recall correctly, the first (-available) is a list of mods which are available for use
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> perhaps I have to close gaim first..
[01:15] <HappyFool> Hajuu: and the other (-enabled) consists of symbolic links to stuff in -available which you actually want to run
[01:16] <HappyFool> Hajuu: i don't have apache2 installed here; i'm working from memory
[01:16] <zubuntu> bye.
[01:16] <podge> But here is the working link.. http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/blockfall
[01:16] <Hajuu> I have my -available set up ok
[01:16] <Slackware77> somebody use gnome?
[01:16] <hondje> jeff25: You still around?
[01:16] <Hajuu> but I dont understand what to put in -enabled
[01:17] <podge> slackware : Running dropline gnome on slackware 10.1 here..
[01:17] <HappyFool> Hajuu: didn't the install create symlinks in there ?
[01:17] <hondje> freerock gnome > *
[01:17] <Slackware77> podge, do u know how to install icons?
[01:17] <liable> christos: paste the command and output
[01:17] <Hajuu> HappyFool:  Yeah.. it created the default ones...
[01:18] <liable> christos: do you have speakers? :)
[01:18] <Hajuu> but I changed the -available/default file and it screwed up
[01:18] <christos> it 's a laptop it has built in speakers
[01:18] <HappyFool> Hajuu: erk
[01:18] <christos> what command?
[01:18] <liable> christos: the modprobe one
[01:18] <HappyFool> Hajuu: ok, sorry, not really sure about that
[01:18] <Hajuu> heh s'ok
[01:18] <Hajuu> ill get there
[01:18] <Slackware77> so?
[01:19] <christos> chris@christos:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc$ ls
[01:19] <christos> pcspkr.ko  uinput.ko
[01:19] <christos> chris@christos:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc$ sudo modprobe pcspkr.ko
[01:19] <christos> FATAL: Module pcspkr.ko not found.
[01:19] <Seveas> modprobe pcspkr
[01:19] <christos> ok
[01:19] <Slackware77> somebody know install icons in gnome?
[01:19] <Seveas> Slackware77, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[01:19] <christos> i m coming back in ten
[01:19] <podge> Slackware77, Checking.. hang 5..
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Slackware77: dump them in ~/.icons or use the theme manager
[01:20] <Slackware77> thank u theD3viL
[01:20] <Slackware77> thank u thoreauputic
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> thank the devil, hallelujah!  (irssi user?)
[01:21] <Hajuu>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)...                            [fail]
[01:21] <liable> @help
[01:21] <Hajuu> I like how descriptive that is
[01:21] <Hajuu> really
[01:21] <Hajuu> so helpful
[01:21] <Hajuu> hehe
[01:21] <HappyFool> Hajuu: look in the apache logs
[01:21] <HappyFool> Hajuu: oh, i was going to say ask in #apache
[01:22] <Hajuu> nobody seems to be around in #apache
[01:22] <HappyFool> Hajuu: regarding the mysteries you were inquiring after earlier
[01:22] <HappyFool> ah
[01:23] <Hajuu> haha
[01:23] <Hajuu> idea failed
[01:24] <novaflare> brb
[01:24] <johnnybezak> hey guys what do i type to do a full distro upgrade from wartyto hoary (my sources.list is updated)
[01:24] <phanter> hello, I get this error: [CGIREG]  (10523) cgi reply not valid .What can I do about this?
[01:24] <podge> Slackware77, apparently you can also update the gtkrc for the theme you want to add icons to..
[01:24] <hondje> anyone here ever build transcode?
[01:24] <admx> apt-get uprade
[01:25] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[01:25] <johnnybezak> thnx happy fool
[01:25] <admx> apt-get upgrade
[01:26] <phanter> admx, johnnybezak, actually it is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:26] <admx> thz
[01:26] <liable> phanter: after sudo apt-get update
[01:27] <Slackware77> which is the default terminal of ubuntu?,gnome terminal?
[01:27] <phanter> liable, i know but johnyboy just told that he updates his listings
[01:27] <hondje> Slackware77: yes
[01:27] <Slackware77> hodgman,  can i make it transparent like aterm or xterm?
[01:27] <we2by> any one knows how to open a .ple file?
[01:27] <Slackware77> hondje, sorry
[01:27] <thoreauputic> slackd00d: yes
[01:27] <hondje> Yes, but you can't get crazy like with eterm :)
[01:27] <thoreauputic> oops
[01:28] <phanter> he, i do not have any experience with CGI. I want to help in the THINK project (finding a good drug), but when doing ./fadsetup it returns: [CGIREG]  (10523) cgi reply not valid
[01:28] <phanter> what is that
[01:28] <hondje> anyone know what ubuntu calls libz?
[01:28] <christos> i m back
[01:28] <christos> i modprobed the pcspkr
[01:29] <thoreauputic> hondje: zlib ?
[01:29] <hondje> hey :D
[01:29] <lonewolff> afternoon all
[01:29] <hondje> thanks thoreauputic
[01:29] <thoreauputic> np
[01:34] <HappyFool> off to see ROTS! *light-sabre noise*
[01:34] <audiovoodoo> anybody having trouble adding the key for the marillat repository?
[01:35] <liable> audiovoodoo: times out?
[01:35] <audiovoodoo> just hangs..
[01:36] <audiovoodoo> I followed the instructions on the quick start guide
[01:36] <liable> audiovoodoo: I have had that previously, maybe the keyserver is down
[01:36] <audiovoodoo> could be...
[01:36] <liable> audiovoodoo: try tommorrow
[01:36] <audiovoodoo> pain if it is I want to get Azures running
[01:37] <audiovoodoo> maybe time to read up on how to use rpm's...
[01:38] <maxy_noob> Ubuntu doesn't seem to have installed my printer. How do I go about checking?
[01:39] <danko123456> System>Admin>Printing.
[01:39] <AvvY> where does Azureus install to in Ubutnu when u install via apt-get?
[01:39] <Ubuntian> i'm using pan: using 1 giga of ram ! :-/
[01:39] <danko123456> Hey, which programs can you use for streaming audio?
[01:40] <maxy_noob> hahahaha ... duh! What a noob!
[01:40] <danko123456> well, you would have found it yuourself.
[01:40] <maxy_noob> I looked in that menu list but didn't see it.
[01:40] <maxy_noob> What a moron!
[01:40] <danko123456> haha:) its ok:)
[01:41] <audiovoodoo> LOL.. easier than u think to do
[01:41] <danko123456> AvvY: locate azureus?
[01:41] <AvvY> dankol123456: huh?
[01:41] <AvvY> dankol123456: i have done searches for it, but it doesnt find the directory
[01:42] <AvvY> dankol123456: it only finds one file, but that isnt it
[01:42] <danko123456> in bin, hey?
[01:42] <danko123456> usr/bin...
[01:42] <AvvY> ill have a look
[01:42] <maxy_noob> Can someone tell me how I can get gaim to logon at startup?
[01:42] <danko123456> no, no, I mean, that is where the file is...
[01:43] <danko123456> maxy_noob: System>Prefs>Session>Startup? tab...
[01:43] <AvvY> na, its the applications menu entre xml file
[01:43] <bigfoot> using GAIM, is there a way to search for users (meet new people)?
[01:43] <maxy_noob> danko123456, thanks
[01:43] <danko123456> bigfoot: gaim uses several protocols. I dont know if any of them support that option...
[01:43] <danko123456> welcom.
[01:44] <AvvY> dankol123456: im running version <IP_ADDRESS>, and the latest is <IP_ADDRESS>, but it wont upgrade auto, so im trying to do it manually
[01:44] <danko123456> you can check out their website to learn more about the protocols,. they have a section on that...  gaim.sourceforge.net
[01:44] <audiovoodoo> you can always go on MSN.. read the profiles and then add them as contacts
[01:44] <danko123456> AvvY: your issue seems trivial, wy even uipgrade?
[01:44] <audiovoodoo> not linked together like in messenger but it works
[01:44] <AvvY> dankol123456: coz it keeps pestering me to!
[01:45] <danko123456> ah...:)
[01:45] <maxy_noob> danko123456, what would be the startup command for gaim?
[01:45] <danko123456> gaim
[01:45] <danko123456> stupid programs like that.:) I hate that...like, there is a .2 new version, must get new version:)
[01:45] <maxy_noob> that's it?
[01:45] <danko123456> yup.
[01:45] <maxy_noob> hahahahahaha
[01:45] <danko123456> try it in a terminal.
[01:45] <ompaul> danko123456, is that your final word on that :)
[01:46] <bigfoot> i'm getting wierd symbols (). how can i decipher it?
[01:46] <danko123456> ompaul: on what??
[01:46] <christos_13> its me again - i modprobed pcspkr.ko and still nothing
[01:46] <ompaul> danko123456, on doing stuff in a terminal - pun final word :)
[01:46] <AvvY> dankol123456: yeah i know, the stupid part is, that it should do it auto, but it keeps messing up
[01:46] <danko123456> bigfoot: where are you getting them?
[01:46] <Seveas> bigfoot, set your locale to a UTF-8 one :)
[01:46] <audiovoodoo> bigfoot: it might be people sending you winks and thinks that GAIM can not handle
[01:46] <danko123456> oh, ompaul, the try it in a terminal was for maxy.
[01:46] <bigfoot> i'm communicating to someone who is not speaking english.
[01:47] <bigfoot> supposing it's not winks, how can i decipher the non-english text?
[01:47] <danko123456> AvvY: so doing it with apt-get doesnt do it?
[01:47] <AvvY> dankol123456: nope, it hasnt been added yet
[01:47] <ompaul> danko123456, okay
[01:48] <Slackware77> when i want install one program and i do make i receive errors...somebody have this problem in ubuntu?
[01:48] <AvvY> what errors?
[01:48] <christos_13> when i lsmod i get pcspkr on the list but it is used by 0
[01:48] <Slackware77> main.c:2244: warning: `setup_signal_handler' defined but not used
[01:48] <Slackware77> make[1] : *** [main.o]  Error 1
[01:48] <Slackware77> for example
[01:48] <novaflare> gona go out on a lim and guess your missing some libraies
[01:48] <Slackware77> but a lot of lines
[01:48] <novaflare> or not lol
[01:49] <danko123456> Slackware77: I would paste the whole error to pastebin.com, and post the URL.
[01:49] <bigfoot> i think that if i get some fonts, then my problem of seeing stuff like  will be gone.
[01:49] <podge> Slackware77, don't worry about the warnings.. they won't stop the compile from working..
[01:49] <bigfoot> but, how do i know which font i need?
[01:49] <Slackware77> podge,but says error 1
[01:49] <danko123456> bigfoot: check out what seveas said up there.
[01:49] <Slackware77> and in slacware never i receive those errores
[01:49] <podge> Slackware77, Do what danko said..
[01:50] <bigfoot> how do i change locales?
[01:50] <danko123456> hey, does anyone have an idea why streaming audio would not work
[01:50] <danko123456> Ive tried several programs.
[01:50] <AvvY> streaming from where?
[01:50] <danko123456> some guys site.
[01:50] <danko123456> xmms, music player, totem movie player.
[01:51] <AvvY> are u sure its on ur end?
[01:51] <Daylighthater> Question: where are the kernel sources of ubuntu
[01:51] <Daylighthater> ??
[01:51] <danko123456> I am not, no.
[01:51] <AvvY> post the url, ill check it
[01:51] <Raskall> Daylighthater: in apt
[01:51] <Shuddertrix> danko123456: I'm able to listen to streams from bmp and xmms, so it might be his end
[01:51] <Daylighthater> I want to install a bootsplash
[01:51] <Shuddertrix> in, i mean
[01:51] <danko123456> thank you: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/xenonproject_music.htm . one of those, any pretty much, you can try Only way to fly ...
[01:51] <Slackware77> podge,  danko123456  ,http://pastebin.com/291637
[01:52] <Daylighthater> Raskall: Are you sure??
[01:52] <bigfoot> Seveas, how do i change locales?
[01:52] <Daylighthater> those are the apt-sources... but the kernel sources??
[01:52] <kent> Shuddertrix, cant you use realplayer? Its not free (sadly) but it works great for me.
[01:52] <Shuddertrix> kent: I'm not the one with the problem, and I do use realplayer on occasion.
[01:52] <Daylighthater> the website www.bootsplash.org says it has to be in /user/src/linux
[01:53] <Daylighthater> but it isn't there
[01:53] <Slackware77> podge,  danko123456  ,http://pastebin.com/291637
[01:53] <liable> Daylighthater: install it
[01:53] <Raskall> Daylighthater: package linux-source-2.6.10
[01:53] <danko123456> Slackware77: dunno myself, to me it always looks like the person that wrote the code didnt do a great job by the errors...
[01:53] <liable> Daylighthater: then cd /usr/src
[01:53] <kent> Shuddertrix, ok, sorry. I stumbled over your comment and id looked like you had problems, sorry :)
[01:53] <Daylighthater> ok
[01:53] <Raskall> Daylighthater: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 and unpack it from /usr/src
[01:53] <liable> Daylighthater: then ln -a /usr/src/blah linux
[01:53] <Slackware77> danko123456,  but i have the same gkrellm in my slackware and works good
[01:53] <Daylighthater> sorry, I'm a real noob at this :d
[01:54] <bigfoot> danko123456, how do i change locales?
[01:54] <Slackware77> and with a lot of programs i want install i receive errors now
[01:54] <liable> s/-a/-s
[01:54] <danko123456> kent, thanks, but no:)
[01:54] <Shuddertrix> danko123456: I get an Internal Server Error 500. It is soundclick's end
[01:54] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:54] <danko123456> ah, thanks, same here.
[01:54] <danko123456> I would not use realplayer in linux...I would go into windows and use it, if I had to use that program...:)
[01:54] <Shuddertrix> danko123456: To see if it might be your end, go to shoutcast's site and pick out a stream..
[01:55] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, thanks. is there no GUI way of doing it?
[01:55] <danko123456> I will, thanks.
[01:55] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: I don't know
[01:55] <Shuddertrix> I'd plug one but i'm not awake yet..
[01:55] <danko123456> Slackware77: I am not really knowledgeable with make and what not...just a few things from everyday usage...:)
[01:55] <liable> hah
[01:56] <danko123456> It is on my end:(
[01:56] <danko123456> thoreauputic: which program does one use to stream audio??
[01:56] <danko123456> ah, maybe I know what it is..
[01:56] <danko123456> just a sec.
[01:56] <bigfoot> Seveas, "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" _is_ currently selected.
[01:56] <danko123456> please, just a sec, I know you want me to be here all the time, but just a sec...
[01:56] <danko123456> :-p
[01:57] <thoreauputic> danko123456: to listen? beep-media-player, rhythmbox, xmms, amarok... lots of them
[01:57] <danko123456> lsof /dev/what?? for sound...
[01:57] <podge> Slackware77, What OS are you compiling under?
[01:58] <Slackware77> podge, ubuntu
[01:58] <podge> Slackware77, 5.04?
[01:59] <Slackware77> ys
[01:59] <Slackware77> yes
[01:59] <podge> Shuddertrix, What about muine?
[01:59] <danko123456> I have all those installed...
[01:59] <danko123456> not that one, tho..
[01:59] <Shuddertrix> podge: Never heard of it, let me grab it.
[01:59] <thoreauputic> lsof /dev/dsp ?
[01:59] <Slackware77> I think there is problem and the computer have problem with c language
[01:59] <podge> Shuddertrix, It gets the album covers off amazon etc..
[02:00] <danko123456> thanks,.
[02:00] <danko123456> I hate linux:)
[02:00] <danko123456> too much stress, and frustration:)
[02:00] <Slackware77> im starting to hate ubuntu
[02:00] <danko123456> :)
[02:00] <podge> Slackware77, Isn't gkrellm available via Synaptics?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> of course it is
[02:00] <timeless> does anyone here have a current ubuntu live cd and time to test to see if something crashes?
[02:01] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: There is gkrellm in apt and a ton of modules too
[02:01] <thoreauputic> enable universe and sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[02:01] <Slackware77> how Shuddertrix  apt-get gkrellm?
[02:01] <Shuddertrix> well, actually about 15 modules, but probably the 15 good ones :P
[02:01] <Slackware77> what is universe?
[02:01] <Shuddertrix> sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[02:02] <Slackware77> E: Couldn't find package gkrellm
[02:02] <danko123456> the reason you got that message...
[02:02] <thoreauputic> Slackware77: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:02] <pluffsy> is it possible to create users which require no password? I'm switching my parents over to linux (their idea!) and in windows xp they have different users (so they have unique settings) but windows doesn't ask for a password on login.
[02:03] <danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToAccessTheUniverseRepository as well.
[02:03] <hondje> That's really a very bad idea. If they actually WANT to use linux, then they're probably willing to accept passwd
[02:03] <danko123456> pluffsy: I dont even think there is such an option.
[02:03] <Slackware77> synaptic dont include gkrellm,i have full installation and i havent gkrellm
[02:03] <m4lc0m> does anyone knows if under linux the laptop embedded smart card reader are usable?
[02:03] <danko123456> Slackware77: try the URL from above.
[02:04] <pluffsy> hondje: why is it? I can see it's good to have a password on the network, but why local passwords? they don't have anything really important and it's only them who use the computer.
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Slackware77: you sources are wrong
[02:04] <danko123456> m4lc0m: try it...:)
[02:04] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:04] <m4lc0m> :)
[02:04] <m4lc0m> yes how?
[02:04] <danko123456> pluffsy: I donjt think it is possible.
[02:04] <timeless> could someone drag me through using bug buddy?
[02:04] <danko123456> adduser wont even allow you to set the password to "password"
[02:04] <rixth> Is hardware support available for the "VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)" RAID chip? (Onboard, my chipset is a KT600)
[02:04] <Shuddertrix> Ubuntu takes an hour or two of time to get it set up, but it's well worth it in my opinion :D
[02:04] <timeless> sudo passwd victim
[02:05] <novaflare> took 45 minutes give or take on my comp
[02:05] <danko123456> m4lc0m: what I mean is...try using the card reader..
[02:05] <pluffsy> danko123456: damn...
[02:05] <novaflare> realy its about the same as windows xp install time wise
[02:05] <bigfoot> hi can someone help me install some non-english fonts into my computer?
[02:05] <danko123456> pluffsy: I think they should be fine, it is not that hard, they can have a post it with the passwords...
[02:05] <Shuddertrix> rixth: I have no conflicts with it, so I think the module it loaded for it (I have the same RAID chip, too)
[02:06] <m4lc0m> danko123456: i've tried but nothing happens, it's normal i've nerver hoped that they are native supported and plug and play... (for a while i hoped...)
[02:06] <rixth> Shuddertrix, so your using it for RAID? 0 or 1
[02:06] <Slackware77> i did abraxas@ABRAXAS:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:06] <Slackware77> deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:06] <Slackware77> abraxas@ABRAXAS:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:06] <Slackware77> deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs etc...
[02:06] <Slackware77> sorry
[02:06] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automaticlogingnome
[02:06] <podge> pluffsy, http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/05-2004/10149.html
[02:06] <Slackware77> :( sorry!
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> rixth: I used it for raid0 once before
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> Can't use it now, hardware problems
[02:07] <danko123456> thoreauputic: nice... Slackware77, I think you are on the wrong path. AM i wrong?
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> err, hard drive problems
[02:07] <Slackware77> i dont understand danko123456
[02:07] <danko123456> I think you want to do a sudo gedit/nano/... /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:08] <Slackware77> shit,this continue with errors
[02:08] <rixth> Shuddertrix, okay, good to know, thanks.
[02:08] <Shuddertrix> At that time, i was triplebooting slackware/windows XP/freebsd
[02:08] <danko123456> then, edit that file, uncomment the universe, there is comments on how to do it in the file.
[02:08] <Slackware77> all people have the same problem with ubuntu?
[02:08] <danko123456> Slackware77: please edit that file, and enable universe.
[02:08] <danko123456>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <podge> pluffsy, I think that is what you want.. it's not autologin stuff.. it simply lets a user (who you put in a file) to login without a password..
[02:09] <Slackware77> which file danko123456 ?
[02:09] <Slackware77> ok
[02:09] <Shuddertrix> danko123456: What about multiverse? ;)
[02:09] <danko123456> nice, good stuff.
[02:09] <danko123456> well, he can make his sources into nickruds, I would do it...
[02:09] <Slackware77> danko123456,  i uncomment the 2 lines?
[02:10] <danko123456> yes, something along those lines.
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Slackware77: for heaven's sake - just read what it says in the file
[02:10] <danko123456> hey, if you wanted to know why I was getting the error while streaming audio...it was cause I had killed esd at some [point so I can get an OSS aopp to worl.
[02:10] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: once that is saved, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[02:10] <danko123456> yeah^
[02:11] <danko123456> Its not really playing now, netiher, but, I dont get errors, and the program is pretending it is playing music, so...
[02:12] <pluffsy> podge: great. thanks :)
[02:12] <thoreauputic> danko123456: try changing the output plugin to esd in xmms or beep
[02:12] <danko123456> cramp:)
[02:12] <podge> pluffsy, Does it work?
[02:13] <we2by> any one installed webmin before?
[02:13] <we2by> I ahve problem logging into it
[02:13] <danko123456> nah, its working, that site might actually be down...
[02:13] <danko123456> shoutcast works now...
[02:13] <danko123456> thanks, tho.:)
[02:14] <thoreauputic> In Soviet Russia, RPMs alienate *you*
[02:14] <thoreauputic> sorry, /. ref
[02:15] <Shuddertrix> Sigh. I must be the only one getting tired of that.
[02:15] <toresbe> you are :P
[02:15] <toresbe> In Soviet Russia, bad jokes tire of YOU!
[02:15] <danko123456> of what?
[02:15] <danko123456> :)
[02:15] <Shuddertrix> toresbe: It might be because everything I say always usually gets twisted like that.
[02:17] <munki> what apt-source can I get firefox 1.0.4 ?
[02:17] <theD3viL> munki, why you need firefox 1.0.4 ?
[02:18] <munki> theD3vil , that is not the question .
[02:18] <toresbe> munki: just tell us why
[02:18] <theD3viL> yes :)
[02:18] <Fator_Dee> well, you could get it from debians repositories, but that is not recommended
[02:18] <pluffsy> podge: haven't tried yet. but it looks right...
[02:18] <munki> because I wan't the newest ver.
[02:19] <munki> off cause .
[02:19] <podge> pluffsy, Google is our friend.. :)
[02:19] <Fator_Dee> munki: get it from firefox's site and make it a .deb
[02:19] <danko123456> munki, no...
[02:19] <Shuddertrix> munki: with just a bit of configuring of about:config, ubuntu's so-called 1.0.2 is really 1.0.4. Just look at the about screen.. ;)
[02:19] <danko123456> well, maybe.
[02:19] <munki> Fator_Dee , thanks for an answer I can use .
[02:20] <pluffsy> btw is it possible to start from a ubuntu livecd and have the users on a editable media like a usb key?
[02:20] <pluffsy> or my ipod
[02:20] <Shuddertrix> Besides, it's saying that I have a ubuntu package of 1.0.4. Which is odd, but whatever works..
[02:20] <munki> Shuddertrix , the about screen calls it 1.0.2 .
[02:20] <danko123456> about:config , then vendorSub, and change the entry to 1.0.4 and that works for teh extensions siet, if that is what you are after.
[02:20] <Fator_Dee> munki: it's really a 1.0.2 with the newest security updates
[02:20] <sebastian> I don't get sound when I play .avi movies in totem or VLC  can anyone help?
[02:20] <munki> Fator_Dee , oh okay . wierd :) I will get it from Mozilla Website, and make a deb . :)
[02:21] <Scorpinf> need help: i have set DMA on the cdrom but still only get 2.5X on 8X dvdr media in k3b, whats the problem?
[02:21] <pluffsy> why is totem usually the default media player on linux when vlc and mplayer seems to be sooo much better?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> munki: the date on mine is 25 May - i think you can assume that's up to date
[02:21] <danko123456> munki: I dunno, maybe you can try what I said, if you are after the extensions.
[02:21] <Shuddertrix> I have 1.0.4~5.04ubp1+1.0.2-0ubuntu1
[02:21] <danko123456> munki: there is a reason why they asked why you need it.
[02:21] <Shuddertrix> That's my ubuntu version..
[02:21] <podge> sebastian, Check your mixer levels.. Are they all okay?
[02:21] <Shuddertrix> I did, however, preform an upgrade before doing anything.
[02:21] <danko123456> pluffsy: in Ubuntu, it is because it is a gnu program./
[02:22] <munki> dankol123456 , uhm . people could just answer me :) that's easy . I am going to update my Firefox, so it's the real 1.0.4 .
[02:22] <Hajuu> I typed "apt-get remove apache2 --purge" but it only removed 81kb of data that seemed non-crucial to apache2 running.. and I was trying to COMPLETELY remove it.. So I then did a "rm -r '/etc/apache2/'" and then did another "apt-get install apache2" but it didn't install that directory again...
[02:22] <sebastian> humm? how do I do that?
[02:22] <Hajuu> whats goin on?
[02:22] <pluffsy> danko123456: oooh. I thought vlc was gpl:ed. silly me.
[02:22] <podge> sebastian, Right click on your volume control and Open Volume Control.
[02:23] <danko123456> munki, the thing is that, if you just need it for teh extensions, you can do what I said, and, I dont even kno if getting the file from their site will work, good luck!:)
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: it assumed you knew wtf you were doing - hence it didn't overwrite your changes
[02:23] <danko123456> pluffsy: maybe it is...but it is not gnu...
[02:23] <danko123456> maybe, who knows, that is why  would think it is so.
[02:23] <Hajuu> heh that was it's first mistake :P
[02:24] <sebastian> still no sound
[02:24] <Slackware77> how can I move files (a lot of files) to other directory?
[02:24] <podge> sebastian, Are all the levels at 100%..?
[02:24] <danko123456> mv
[02:24] <Hajuu> Well its ubuntu's fault for deciding that they wanted to completely change the apache2 configuration in the apt-get package to some abstract system they've setup...
[02:24] <Slackware77> yes danko123456  but for much files?
[02:24] <danko123456> sure/..
[02:24] <podge> sebastian, Do you sound when you login to Ubuntu?
[02:24] <pluffsy> danko123456: it was gpl:ed. why should it be gnu and why is not gpl fine? I mean firefox isn't gnu neither.
[02:24] <danko123456> I mean, tell me exactly, Ill tell you the exact command.
[02:24] <Slackware77> mv /..?
[02:24] <sebastian> yes, I have sound in the os but not when I try to play movies
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: AFAIK it's a pretty standard apache2 setup
[02:24] <Slackware77> i want to move 50 files to other directory
[02:24] <Fator_Dee> Slackware77: mv "whattomove" "wheretomove"
[02:25] <danko123456> I wouldnt personally use that, I would make epiphany the default browser.
[02:25] <Hajuu> Not compared to any one i've ever setup before.
[02:25] <Fator_Dee> Slackware77: man mv
[02:25] <danko123456> pluffsy: I have no relation to Ubuntu, other than using it..
[02:25] <bpuccio> pluffsy: as far as I can tell, it is indeed GPL'd https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/file/trunk/COPYING
[02:25] <munki> dankol123456 , I have just installed it from the website .
[02:25] <danko123456> Slackware77: are they the only files?
[02:25] <danko123456> munki, good stuff:)
[02:25] <Slackware77> what?
[02:25] <podge> sebastian, So MP3 etc works?
[02:25] <danko123456> Slackware77: can you use nautilus, and drag and drop/cut and paste?
[02:26] <Slackware77> danko,u r right
[02:26] <Hajuu> See.. What shits me right off.. Is I do my "apt-get remove apache2 --purge" BUT IT DOESNT REMOVE ANYTHING AT ALL
[02:26] <danko123456> dpkg --purge apache2
[02:26] <Hajuu> Straight afterwards I can restart the apache2 server like nothing ever happened
[02:26] <sebastian> podge: well I haven't tried mp3 yet, I just installed ubuntu for the first time yesterday =)
[02:26] <Slackware77> danko123456,  no because the files are in hided folder
[02:26] <danko123456> sebastian: your post is misleading then.
[02:27] <danko123456> you can view>show hidden files.
[02:27] <Hajuu> dpkg says apache2 isnt installed.. but apt-get recognises it :/
[02:27] <danko123456> Hajuu: not sure, I use apache1.
[02:27] <sebastian> what do you meen?
[02:27] <podge> sebastian, Can you listen to CDs? Give it a go..
[02:27] <Hajuu> Yeah I want to take apache2 off so I can put apache1 on heh
[02:27] <sebastian> ok, one sec
[02:27] <danko123456> sebastian: I mean yopu said that playing avis dont work for sound...which kinda sounds like other file types do work...
[02:28] <danko123456> whereas you really meant that sound dont work at all.
[02:28] <sebastian> aha, ok
[02:28] <podge> danko123456 : Yep.. :)
[02:28] <sebastian> CDs work
[02:29] <danko123456> :) well, anyhow, I love how the Linux books always cover that topic on how to ask questions.
[02:29] <danko123456> sebastian, what program again?
[02:29] <danko123456> for movies?
[02:29] <we2by> how do I force apt-get to reinstall a software completely?
[02:29] <danko123456> VLC?
[02:29] <podge> sebastian, Totem has a volume control.. Is that at 100%
[02:29] <sebastian> VLC and Totem
[02:29] <sebastian> yes it is
[02:30] <we2by> how do I force apt-get to reinstall a software completely?
[02:30] <danko123456> we2by: I would first look into synaptic b4 asking that.
[02:30] <danko123456> but, I am not sure.
[02:30] <sebastian> could it be that I dont have the right codecs or something like that?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> we2by: sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>
[02:30] <yonil> Bhaa: I'm trying to open firefox in default and it says i cant since its already open. but its not open X_X
[02:30] <danko123456> perhaps, what did you install so far?
[02:30] <Hajuu> so.. how am I going to get apache2 uninstalled now?
[02:30] <danko123456> yonil: had that happen b4, create a new profile.
[02:31] <danko123456> isnt it uninstalled now?
[02:31] <Fator_Dee> yonil: you don't have to create a new profile
[02:31] <Hajuu> no.
[02:31] <sebastian> nothing really
[02:31] <yonil> Fator_Dee, what then?
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: have you tried just installing apache1 ?
[02:31] <Fator_Dee> yonil: delete ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock
[02:31] <Hajuu> thoreauputic:  but apache2 will be taking port 80
[02:31] <danko123456> sebastian: check this out then: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .
[02:31] <podge> sebastian, maybe.. Do you have a mp3 lying around.. ? Try playing mp3 on totem..
[02:32] <yonil> Fator_Dee, will that delete any of my stuff ? (bookmarks, cookies etc.)
[02:32] <Hajuu> And I can't stop the service because when I try.. it complains about missing files.
[02:32] <danko123456> thoreauputic: yeah, wehn you install apache1 if apache 2 is already there, it remvoes it.
[02:32] <Fator_Dee> yonil: no, just delete that "lock" file in that directory
[02:32] <podge> sebastian, or an ogg or wav...
[02:32] <Hajuu> danko123456:  really!
[02:32] <Hajuu> Wow
[02:32] <yonil> Fator_Dee, ok sec
[02:32] <danko123456> I think so..
[02:32] <Hajuu> I will have to try this
[02:32] <thoreauputic> danko123456: that was my theory too
[02:32] <sebastian> ok, off to find mp3s
[02:32] <danko123456> ya, I kno...it does that with ftpds...
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: I would think apache1 would conflict with apache2, thus apt would remove "2"
[02:33] <danko123456> podge, well, if he never installed any codecs, tehy cant m,agically b there.
[02:33] <Hajuu> hrm
[02:33] <Slackware77> if I have in folder 50 files .tar.gz ,can I extract all in one step?
[02:33] <Hajuu> I dont think it will be able to though
[02:33] <Hajuu> because apache2 is running
[02:33] <Hajuu> I think thats why it failed to remove it before..
[02:33] <podge> danko123456, Does ubuntu play mp3 out of the box?
[02:33] <danko123456> well, using a regex you could.
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: assuming of course you use apt to install it and don't play silly buggers with the packaging system ;)
[02:33] <Hajuu> Cause I forgot to shut it down before removing it
[02:33] <danko123456> podge, no, I dont think so.
[02:34] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: it shouldn't matter
[02:34] <danko123456> Slackware77: I dont kno, try tar xzvf *
[02:34] <danko123456> or something.
[02:34] <danko123456> like that.
[02:34] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: it would shut it down anyway
[02:34] <danko123456> that should do them.
[02:34] <podge> danko123456, okay.. so an ogg would be better..
[02:34] <Hajuu> well then it doesnt work propperly heh
[02:34] <Hajuu> cause I ran the remove command fine
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: well, it would shut it down when it started apache 1, I assume
[02:35] <danko123456> podge, well, sound does play, so setting up the codecs was what I recomended:) recommended, sounds like I know what I am talking about...
[02:35] <Slackware77> no danko123456
[02:35] <Hajuu> just started apache2
[02:35] <Hajuu> err
[02:35] <Hajuu> apache1
[02:35] <Hajuu> no good
[02:35] <Hajuu> apache2 still running.. still functioning
[02:35] <sebastian> podge: mp3s also work
[02:35] <danko123456> wow, nice:)
[02:35] <danko123456> you have to have installed some codecs, then.
[02:35] <Scorpinf> need help: i have set DMA on the cdrom but still only get 2.5X on 8X dvdr media in k3b, whats the problem?
[02:36] <danko123456> Slackware77: I dont know, you need to be more specific. paste some ls command outputs onto pastebin
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: did you tell k3b in somewhere to burn it at a greater speed?
[02:36] <Hajuu> ooh I know what to do
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: you've stuffed up apt/dpkg with your directory removal, I guess: try apt-get -f install without any packages and see if it heals itself
[02:36] <Hajuu> If I restart..
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: options, preferences?
[02:36] <podge> sebastian, Download the rest of the codecs by following the instructions that dankoposted earlier..
[02:36] <sebastian> well, maybe, I downloaded totem-xine from synaptic
[02:36] <Hajuu> ok
[02:36] <herpes> Scorpinf, maybe the media can only be burnt at 2.5 speed
[02:36] <sebastian> ok, will do, thanks alot
[02:36] <danko123456> welcome:)_
[02:36] <Hajuu> heh nah that didnt work
[02:37] <Hajuu> but if I restart.. apache2 should fail to start, just as it fails to stop
[02:37] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: or your dvd-drive can't burn at those speeds
[02:37] <podge> sebastian, Sound is working.. So you are halfway there..
[02:37] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: worth a try I guess
[02:37] <Hajuu> be back
[02:37] <danko123456> some files dont have sound anyhow:)
[02:38] <danko123456> Im sick:(
[02:38] <danko123456> feel sorry for me...
[02:38] <danko123456> :)
[02:38] <podge> danko123456, Got a bug?
[02:38] <danko123456> I got a cold, end of May...
[02:39] <danko123456> high fever, too, I think.
[02:39] <danko123456> I should buy a thermometer/whateveritscalled.
[02:39] <danko123456> thank you, whats OP?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> over proof :)
[02:39] <danko123456> I have some rum here. Should  I drink that, 'that good for colds?
[02:39] <danko123456> well..:)
[02:39] <thoreauputic> explosive alcohol in other words ;)
[02:40] <podge> danko123456, Shouldn't you be in bed?
[02:40] <Fator_Dee> danko123456: don't drink too much though :-)
[02:40] <danko123456> I guess, maybe I should, it is bad for the fever...tghe screen is...I have a laptop, I could do that in bed...
[02:40] <Scorpinf> Fator_Dee, my dvddriva can burn at 16x on dvdr, the media is 8x
[02:40] <danko123456> Im not a bed type person:)
[02:41] <Hajuu> well that more or less worked
[02:41] <podge> hajuu : I see you are on westnet.. where are you based?
[02:41] <Hajuu> WA
[02:41] <Hajuu> and yourself?
[02:41] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: then, did you specify k3b to burn your dvd at a greater speed than 2.5X?
[02:42] <podge> Hajuu, Swiftdsl in Geelong/VIC..
[02:42] <Scorpinf> speed is auto, or is there another option to consider?
[02:42] <liwen>
[02:42] <borner> hello
[02:42] <linukso> Hi! I wonder if ubuntu overwrites /ets/hosts on boot? I tried adding some hosts to it, but after I rebooted it was gone.
[02:42] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: you can tell it a speed in which to burn somewhere, I'm not sure though where that option could be
[02:42] <borner> does any one experiencing errors in backports.ubuntuforums.org ?\
[02:43] <thoreauputic> linukso: no , of course not
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: just browse through configurations, options, etc
[02:43] <borner> anyone ?
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: I think that's the reason
[02:43] <danko123456> liwen:
[02:43] <thoreauputic> linukso: are you sure you saved to the right file?
[02:43] <danko123456> lol
[02:43] <linukso> thoreauputic: yes :
[02:43] <danko123456> borner: what errors?
[02:44] <borner> Could not connect to backports.ubuntuforums.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:44] <danko123456> open it in a browser.
[02:44] <liwen> hi
[02:44] <danko123456> hey.
[02:44] <borner> danko can you check it at your end ?
[02:44] <linukso> thoreauputic: I'll just add it again, hope it sticks this time...
[02:44] <difficult> Hi all, how do I change my default application for videos from totem to something else?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> linukso: I have a hosts file here with hundreds of entries, and it stays on renoot
[02:44] <thoreauputic> *reboot
[02:44] <danko123456> ya, its donw, borner.
[02:45] <liwen> i use linux just the first one week
[02:45] <borner> damn
[02:45] <liwen> week
[02:45] <borner> right when i need it @work
[02:45] <borner> blah
[02:45] <danko123456> difficult: right click on the file you are opening, properties, then open with.
[02:45] <Hajuu> "whereis apache2" apache2:
[02:45] <Scorpinf> hmm how do i set dma on hdc
[02:45] <Hajuu> Clean
[02:45] <Hajuu> hehe
[02:45] <danko123456> liwen, I have been using it since around october last year...
[02:45] <thoreauputic> difficult: right click a file in nautilus, choose properties, open with > and check your new default
[02:45] <podge> liwen, Check the file before you reboot.. to make sure you saves the file out correctly..
[02:45] <Fator_Dee> Scorpinf: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[02:46] <Scorpinf> ok tnx
[02:46] <danko123456> podge: you got it mixed up, is that for linukso?
[02:46] <Scorpinf> just saw that my dvd device was called hdc in k3b
[02:46] <thoreauputic> danko123456: oops didn't see yours , sorry :)
[02:46] <difficult> I can't see anywhere for the check for default
[02:46] <podge> danko123456, apologies..
[02:46] <liwen> danko123456: hi so well
[02:46] <danko123456> you guys are all apologizing, you are lucky Im not there....
[02:46] <danko123456> :)
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> I want to make a live/install ubuntu dvd.  Will k3b be able to do it?
[02:47] <danko123456> I guess Ill forgive you guys...
[02:47] <tiglionabbit> or what software do you recommend?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> difficult: properties, open with, add
[02:47] <borner> THERE ARE MIRRORS !
[02:47] <borner> :P
[02:47] <podge> danko123456, I'm watching the Open Solaris User Group video in the background..
[02:47] <liwen> danko123456:i meet so much question
[02:47] <Hajuu> tiglionabbit:  Why not download one?
[02:47] <Shuddertrix> tiglionabbit: I've had DVD's burn correctly in k3b, so it should work ;)
[02:47] <tiglionabbit> burn from iso though
[02:47] <Shuddertrix> Yes
[02:47] <danko123456> liwen: I meet questions too, do you have one we could answer perhaps?
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> because it just has a "New Data DVD" button, and a Format DVD button, but all the rest say CD
[02:48] <Fator_Dee> borner: you have a disturbing nick, I misread it :-|
[02:48] <liwen> danko123456:i just come here for help,thanks
[02:48] <liwen> thanks
[02:48] <podge> Anyone here running Sun Rays on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <difficult> thanks for the help with that one
[02:49] <borner> hehe
[02:49] <borner> its not my nick
[02:49] <borner> its the domain comapny
[02:49] <borner> company's domain
[02:49] <borner> *
[02:49] <difficult> does anyone know why when I use mplayer I can't use full screen properly
[02:49] <Fator_Dee> borner: even worse then
[02:49] <difficult> it is just a box in the middle of the screen
[02:49] <borner> btw why when i try to apt-get i get : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[02:49] <borner> java -version
[02:49] <difficult> and the outside is black
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> oh, there is a burn dvd iso image option in the menus.  I see
[02:49] <borner> err
[02:49] <borner> sec
[02:49] <borner> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:49] <lonewolff> difficult: change the output to xv in the options
[02:49] <danko123456> borner: I have a clue, cause your graphics card does not play with it nicely.
[02:50] <borner> what should i do to make them authenticated.
[02:50] <danko123456> no, not borner, difficult,.
[02:50] <liwen> when i use root login .sound ok. when use another user no sound?
[02:50] <liwen> why?
[02:50] <Aurax> k
[02:50] <Aurax> better?
[02:50] <Aurax> ;)
[02:50] <lonewolff> liwen: maybee permissions on sound device?
[02:51] <Shuddertrix> tiglionabbit: Tools > DVD > Burn DVD ISO Image...
[02:51] <thoreauputic> liwen: check that the user is in the audio group
[02:51] <liwen> errr?
[02:51] <Aurax> so what is the reason apt-get asks for autherntication
[02:51] <Slackware77> I decided unistall ubuntu
[02:51] <Slackware77> :(
[02:51] <Aurax> its never did
[02:51] <tiglionabbit> liwen: Add the user to the audio group?
[02:51] <lonewolff> Slackware777: why?
[02:51] <lonewolff> Slackware777: having problems?
[02:51] <Slackware77> is difficult for me lonewolff
[02:51] <liwen> ok thx .i do it now
[02:51] <Slackware77> i preffer slackware
[02:52] <lonewolff> Slackware777: if you take some time at it it will become natural tho
[02:52] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: Too scared to configure linux?
[02:52] <Aurax> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:52] <Aurax>   sun-j2re1.5
[02:52] <Aurax> why is this happening
[02:52] <Slackware77> Shuddertrix, i cant install programs normally
[02:52] <Shuddertrix> Sorry, to me it just seems you didn't give ubuntu a chance.
[02:52] <podge> Slackware77, Ubuntu is easy compared to Slackware..
[02:52] <herpes> isnt slackware a pain to configure?
[02:52] <Kpjas> Hi I've got some problems with synaptic
[02:52] <Slackware77> no,Slackware havent problems
[02:52] <yonil> Fator_Dee, dont know if you saw my last question, i got disconnected ..
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Aurax: because you lack the gpg key for taht repository
[02:52] <thoreauputic> *that
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> slackware77: what didn't you like about ubuntu?
[02:53] <Aurax> how can i get it ?
[02:53] <lonewolff> Slackware777: why cant you install programs, its very simple
[02:53] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: Here, you can take baby steps into apt, download and install slapt-get ;)
[02:53] <Slackware77> tiglionabbit, i cant install programs...i dont know why,
[02:53] <Kpjas> while updating (synaptic) I got several warnings and errors
[02:53] <Aurax> ok
[02:53] <Aurax> installing
[02:53] <Aurax> \gees
[02:53] <Slackware77> Shuddertrix, i like compile,because with apt-get there are things i cant get
[02:53] <podge> swaret isn't too bad on Slackware..
[02:53] <yonil> Fator_Dee, nvm i got it working, thanks
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> slackware: Try running synaptic, selecting a package, and hitting Apply
[02:53] <danko123456> Kpjas: your sources are likely weird.
[02:54] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: All you needed to do was add the universe and multiverse and run apt-get install gkrellm.
[02:54] <Slackware77> tiglionabbit, just i want install with make
[02:54] <Kpjas> danko123456: why do you say that ?
[02:54] <Slackware77> Shuddertrix, i have gkrellm now
[02:54] <danko123456> Kpjas: cause you got errors.
[02:54] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: Ok, live with your slackware then..
[02:54] <danko123456> kpjas, you know about the sources.list file?
[02:54] <Shuddertrix> Slackware77: This is #ubuntu, not #slackware.
[02:54] <Slackware77> but for example,i want put plugins,and i cant install one pplugin...
[02:54] <tiglionabbit> install with make?  You mean you want to compile your programs.  Okay
[02:54] <thoreauputic> Slackware77: if you prefer slackware then use it :) No one minds...
[02:55] <Shuddertrix> Which reminds me, I should be in there too :P
[02:55] <danko123456> Kpjas: cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and paste that to pastebin.com, please.
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> yonil: no I didn't see it
[02:55] <tiglionabbit> here in debian land we use apt
[02:55] <Slackware77> but thank u for ur help today
[02:55] <Kpjas> danko123456: OK
[02:55] <Slackware77> good luck
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> yonil: but you got the file deleted?
[02:55] <yonil> Fator_Dee, yeah it works now ;)
[02:55] <danko123456> debian landL:)
[02:55] <yonil> Fator_Dee, should i report that as a bug in bugzilla or something?
[02:56] <Fator_Dee> yonil: I think that's not a bug
[02:56] <yonil> Fackamato, how come?
[02:56] <yonil> Fator_Dee*
[02:56] <Fator_Dee> yonil: well, I'm not sure :-)
[02:56] <yonil> ok, thanks anywayz
[02:56] <tiglionabbit> heh, it's funny.  Have you seen the poll on the tux magazine site for "Which distro is good for newbies" ?  They're all debian!
[02:56] <Fator_Dee> np
[02:56] <Kpjas> danko123456: http://pastebin.com/291646
[02:57] <sebastian> danko12345 & podge: THANKS ALOT! it worked!
[02:57] <we2by> How do I add use quoate support?
[02:57] <danko123456> sebastian: the page with codecs worked?
[02:57] <sebastian> yes
[02:57] <danko123456> excellent.
[02:57] <danko123456> :)
[02:57] <podge> sebastian: danko123456 did all of the hard work..!! :)
[02:57] <danko123456> Kpjas: yeah, you have all these weird repos there.
[02:57] <danko123456> haha, I posted a link.
[02:58] <danko123456> kpjas, do you need any particular repos there?
[02:58] <sebastian> thats why I typed his name first ; )
[02:58] <podge> sebastian, So what CD did you use to test your audio?
[02:58] <danko123456> I posted a link:) anyhow, Kpjas, would you like to make your sources.list into what will work, and is the recommended one, or at least should be recommended...
[02:59] <sebastian> podge: Tiamat  - Judas Christ
[02:59] <tiglionabbit> Judas?
[02:59] <Kpjas> danko123456: OK thnx what do U think about advice in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ?
[02:59] <sebastian> yes
[03:00] <danko123456> Kpjas: many think its crap, its ok, I think, but it is kinda half ass, in that it doesnt tell you what it means to have all those enabled.
[03:00] <stein> are there any updates for hoary (5.04) ?
[03:00] <danko123456> Kpjas: this is the one that will work, for sure: http://pastebin.com/291647 .
[03:00] <podge> sebastian, Cool.. What about Metallica? :)
[03:00] <we2by> how do I install named?
[03:00] <danko123456> you need to: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and make the file look like that pastebin.
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> well that entire guide is like that.  It just tells you to do things, without explaining what they really are
[03:01] <novaflare> your talking about bind we2by im guessing
[03:01] <sebastian> podge: oh yea, got all of their albums exept for the latest one
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> danko: Why don't you just instruct them to run synaptic and check all the boxes in repositories?
[03:01] <danko123456> tiglionabbit: yeah, its ok tho, if you know what you are doing, and props to jiyuu0 for making it.
[03:01] <novaflare> open synaptic and edit search bind
[03:01] <danko123456> tiglionabbit: I dont know how to do it.
[03:01] <danko123456> :) plus its a gui way, I like cli.
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> well gui is easier for noobs
[03:02] <Kpjas> danko123456: thnx g2g
[03:02] <danko123456> Likely, please go ahead and tell me how to do it that way,
[03:02] <danko123456> k, kpjas.
[03:03] <danko123456> tiglionabbit: gui is prone to mistakes:) I like cli:) but, please tell me how to check those you said.
[03:03] <novaflare> tiglionabbit, i dont know some times its easyer to tell some one to do start run cmd and a command than to tell them to go through the gui on windows same for linux
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> Run synaptic, select settings->Repositories.  Click settings, and check "Show Disabled Repositories".  Now you can see all of them.  Check all the boxes, and hit okay.  It will uncomment all the repositories, and update apt itself
[03:03] <danko123456> for me that only reloads.
[03:04] <danko123456> as soon as I hit repos.
[03:04] <danko123456> And dont let me do anythuing.
[03:04] <tiglionabbit> it just reloads?
[03:04] <tiglionabbit> it should open a window
[03:04] <danko123456> yup
[03:04] <danko123456> it does for a sec, and I have seen the window b4..
[03:04] <thoreauputic> danko123456: you probably don't have any disabled repos :)
[03:04] <frank> goodafternoon frfrom the netherlands
[03:04] <podge> Talk later people..
[03:04] <tiglionabbit> um, it's settings->repositories, on the top menu there...
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> not the Reload button
[03:05] <danko123456> :))
[03:05] <danko123456> funny.
[03:05] <danko123456> hi, frank.
[03:05] <frank> hi danko
[03:05] <frank> testing ubuntus right now
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> h'lo liwen.  Did that work for you?
[03:05] <liwen> yes.go great
[03:05] <danko123456> tiglionabbit: well, I know that much...Im telling you, GUI is prone to errors.
[03:05] <liwen> so great
[03:05] <johnnybe1ak> hi guys
[03:05] <danko123456> nice.
[03:05] <danko123456> hi.
[03:07] <PhotonX> quick question, if you guys dont mind. what package management does ubuntu have?
[03:07] <danko123456> I poured boiling tea into a glass...and the glass just cracked:) I am such a newb...
[03:07] <danko123456> I mind, sorry.
[03:07] <danko123456> apt-get
[03:07] <PhotonX> ohh yeah
[03:07] <PhotonX> debian based
[03:08] <danko123456> yup.
[03:08] <PhotonX> forgot, thanks!
[03:08] <tiglionabbit> photonX: it uses debian's apt-get, but includes various frontends
[03:08] <liwen> danko123456.i installed  the gstreamer .but still cant open some avi
[03:08] <danko123456> welcome
[03:08] <danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is the best I can do, liwen.
[03:08] <johnnybe1ak> anyone know a good low ram using alternative to firefox
[03:08] <we2by> How do I add use quoate support?
[03:08] <liwen> ok
[03:08] <PhotonX> anyone have ubuntu on a 500mhz machine?
[03:09] <cyber23> hi
[03:09] <cablefish> i have on a 100mhz
[03:09] <tiglionabbit> photonx: a friend of mine is attempting to install it on his 233mhz machine..   but hasn't succeeded yet
[03:09] <cablefish> i have on a 1000mhz*
[03:09] <thoreauputic> we2by: do you mean "quota" ?
[03:09] <PhotonX> oh haha
[03:09] <cyber23> does anyone know if you can install windows media player in ubuntu with cedega
[03:09] <PhotonX> i have a spare 500mhz, 128ram machine sitting, thats why i was considering ubuntu
[03:09] <danko123456> PhotonX: well, I used it on a 500-ish machine.
[03:09] <tiglionabbit> cyber23: why not just install win32codecs?
[03:09] <PhotonX> i tried archlinux but it was such a pain in the ass
[03:09] <danko123456> not veryu fast, remove gnome.
[03:09] <danko123456> use a minimal wm.
[03:10] <PhotonX> danko, i think im gonna keep it minimal
[03:10] <PhotonX> yeah
[03:10] <Hajuu> how do I restart apache1?
[03:10] <PhotonX> 200 megs till i install ubuntu :]
[03:10] <PhotonX> i hope im not let down
[03:10] <danko123456> apache restart, or httpd restart
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: apachectl I think
[03:10] <danko123456> as sudo, maybe
[03:10] <ompaul> cyber23, you can consider trying wine as long as you have a licence for wmp but to be honest there are so many players for ubuntu and linux in general that using a none native app seems to be a step backwards
[03:10] <cablefish> damn theres  a lot of questions flying around
[03:11] <cablefish> i got one too
[03:11] <johnnybe1ak> PhotonX: i just installed ubuntu (warty) on my new 500 mhz compaq armada
[03:11] <cyber23> ok
[03:11] <ompaul> cablefish, why did you say that ? :)
[03:11] <Hajuu> hmm.. for some reason its giving me a forbidden error
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> ask us, cabelfish
[03:11] <johnnybe1ak> whilst its not snappy, its running fine
[03:11] <Hajuu> "I dont have permission"
[03:11] <johnnybe1ak> i just need more ram
[03:11] <cyber23> how do I install the win32codec
[03:11] <cablefish> how can i play mp3 files
[03:11] <danko123456> Man, I am listening to some stream...lame...
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> cyber: search synaptic for it
[03:11] <cablefish> with gnome?
[03:11] <johnnybe1ak> cablefish: you need to install the mp3 libarayies
[03:11] <danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats cablefish.
[03:11] <cablefish> thanks guys
[03:11] <johnnybe1ak> np
[03:12] <danko123456> cyber23: link for you too^
[03:13] <liwen> arz
[03:13] <cyber23> thanks
[03:13] <danko123456> welcome:)
[03:14] <danko123456> bitchx is only cli? right?
[03:14] <liwen> my realplayer 10 dont  work. just 5 min ago it is normal used
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> what is cli?
[03:14] <danko123456> command line interface.
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> oh
[03:14] <Hajuu> yeah
[03:15] <danko123456> k.
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> heh I always called that textmode
[03:15] <liwen> realplay -k?
[03:15] <adam_> helllo all
[03:15] <adam_> who can help me?
[03:15] <cablefish> I remember when i first encountered CLI on my old amige
[03:15] <danko123456> textUI, yes.
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> depends on the question, adam_
[03:15] <cablefish> *amiga
[03:15] <adam_> the subject is the animation
[03:15] <adam_> for my site
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> what format?
[03:16] <adam_> (sorry i'm french so my english...)
[03:16] <PhotonX> if its flash, i can help
[03:16] <adam_> i want to do one
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> is there a french ubuntu channel?
[03:16] <adam_> i want to do an anim
[03:16] <danko123456> yeah. ubuntu-fr
[03:16] <danko123456> I think
[03:16] <adam_> yes there one but....
[03:16] <we2by> How do I add use quoate support?
[03:16] <adam_> ?
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> adam_: I believe the gimp can do animated gifs if you install the animation package for it
[03:16] <adam_> really?
[03:17] <reka> hmm, i seem to have broken my system when i upgraded to the latest binutils package.
[03:17] <reka> i now get this error when compiling programs:
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> Yes.  It can also export mpeg.  It has quite a few animation options
[03:17] <danko123456> thats me in bitchx, dabaSlon
[03:17] <reka> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized