[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: OK, the command to do that would be: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq /data /backup
[12:01] <jrib> zOap: wherever you want.  What do you mean exactly?
[12:01] <Jowi> Tonren, that is strange. do you have a software firewall activated in linux?
[12:01] <i|D> ok got config
[12:01] <i|D> thx
[12:01] <frederific> Tonren: It sounds to me like the library's proxy is trying to run an activeX control or suchlike that is windows-only. I could be totally wrong though...
[12:01] <Tonren> Jowi: Not that I know of.
[12:01] <aoirthoir> Tonren: not much..came in to see if anyone knows how to get GRub to recognize an OS on another hard drive..not just another partition
[12:01] <purplemunkz> I am having a problem being able to access the internet on a fresh ubuntu install.   I have verified that my Ethernet card (eth0) is UP and is configured correctly.    I can ping my gateway, and can being intenet domains such as yahoo and google but can not access anything when attempting to open a website in firefox.  anyone seen anything similar?
[12:01] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: it has some large multimedia files so i would like no compression and to just overwrite the previous backup
[12:01] <Tonren> frederific: It kind of seems that way.
[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: that just copies over the new/changed stuff. To sync the directories: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data /backup
[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: OK, hold on...
[12:01] <maddash> purplemunkz: set your default network interface
[12:01] <Tonren> frederific: The really weird thing is that in Linux, once connected, I can't even get Gaim or XChat working - so it's not just a web browser thing.
[12:01] <purplemunkz> uhm, how?
[12:01] <frederific> tonren: bit of a long shot, but have you tried asking the library people?
[12:01] <maddash> purplemunkz: sudo network-manager
[12:02] <zOap> jrib, I have a user bin /home/user/bin. But the path is not loaded at startup. where do I put the path so that it's loaded each time I log in? it works in term, but not in gui...
[12:02] <i|D> 	from: <IP_ADDRESS>/0   to: .   via: <IP_ADDRESS> port = 1080
[12:02] <jrib> zOap: use ~/.gnomerc if you are using gnome
[12:02] <Tonren> frederific: I just can't deal with the "Linux...?" blank look right now.
[12:02] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: if there are large multimedia files, you'd want rsync to compress them while copying. They won't end up compressed in the backup directory
[12:02] <zOap> jrib, no I'm use xfce
[12:02] <odi3> purple: i use "iwlist scan" to find available networks then change essid to the network i would like to use
[12:02] <Jowi> Tonren, frederific might be right. it makes no sence that your connection is lost like that. can you verify that it disconnects or that the connection stays up but you can not browse?
[12:02] <frederific> tonren: Yeah, I figured it'd be like that
[12:02] <purplemunkz> ok, I'll give it a try...   so even if eth0 isn't currently set as the default, would I still be able to ping external hosts and ip's using the eth0 interface?
[12:02] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: but if you don't want rsync to compress them on the way, leave out the 'z' parameter
[12:03] <purplemunkz> because i can
[12:03] <frederific> tonren: have you tried turning off your pop-up blocker?
[12:03] <kcinna> how can i burn avi files to a dvd?
[12:03] <kcinna> as video
[12:03] <maddash> purplemunkz: if what I said works, then probably...
[12:03] <i|D> http://nopaste.biz/?11360
[12:03] <Tonren> Jowi: I'm pretty sure that, once my external ping stops working, I can still ping the router (wherever it is).  And what really is strange is that it DOES work!  For about 30 seconds.
[12:03] <i|D> i dont understand this config
[12:03] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: sounds good
[12:03] <h3xis> Tucky, okay i gotta head out but good luck. i'll be back later
[12:03] <Tonren> frederific: Funny you should ask that, because it did try to launch a pop-up when I was in Linux.  But when I booted into Windows and connected, it's been working with no popup.
[12:03] <kane77> h3xis, http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1197/untitledlh3.jpg here's the picture... it's abit of a mess...
[12:03] <Tonren> frederific: In Windows, I connected to AIM before I even opened my browser.
[12:04] <Moon_Rabbits> Can I run speakers on Ubuntu if I don't have a soundcard? I mean, if the sound card is integrated into the motherboard? Because ever since I installed ubuntu my computer has been using it's built in speaker instead.
[12:04] <kcinna> !xvid
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: if you decide you want to back a directory up to another machine on the lan, just add its name before the directory: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data pc:/backup
[12:04] <h3xis> kane77, alright i'll save it and check it out when i get back. im heading out, but i
[12:04] <maddash> purplemunkz: does ffox work now?
[12:04] <Jowi> Tonren, check if the connection is still there after the 30 secs. if it is still up, it's not your wireless connection you should investigate but how the connection is verified from the Access Point or Proxy.
[12:04] <h3xis> kane77, i will be back later ;)
[12:04] <purplemunkz> ugh.. I'm in windows atm.  I got to reboot into ubuntu to give it a shot..
[12:04] <kane77> h3xis, ok
[12:04] <castoff> i|D do you know the socks server IP and the version either 4 or 5?
[12:04] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: the advantage of using rsync is that it only copies over the bits that have changed
[12:04] <i|D> yes
[12:04] <frederific> tonren: it could be that it opens one, then immediatle closes it, juse to make sure its a real PC
[12:04] <Tonren> Jowi: I don't really understand what you mean.  How do I verify if the connection is "still there"?  I don't know enough about networking to investigate proxies and stuff.
[12:05] <i|D> i have ip port and its socks 5
[12:05] <Jowi> Tonren, simply ping the gateway
[12:05] <Tucky> h3xis that is set up now
[12:05] <Tonren> Jowi: Like I said - I'm pretty sure I was able to ping the gateway after the rest of my services stopped functioning.
[12:05] <kane77> h3xis, can you just look at it and tell me if it's possible?
[12:05] <castoff> i|D replace <IP_ADDRESS> with ip and 1080 with port
[12:05] <i|D> and then i have to remove all this # ?
[12:05] <Tonren> frederific: I don't think so.  Like I said - the first thing I did in Windows was open Gaim, not Firefox or even IE.
[12:05] <frederific> tonren: In that case, its not a conneciton problem
[12:05] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:05] <Jowi> Tonren, I suspect frederific is right
[12:06] <castoff> i|D need a username/password?
[12:06] <purplemunkz> it really doesn't make any sense though,  as I can ping yahoo.com and google.com and get responses from those domain names.     but I simply can't access them using ffox, or even the apt-get utility isn't working as well...  though i can succesfully ping the hostname that apt-get is trying to connect to in order to pull packages.
[12:06] <almir> a nice media player for my mp3 collection?
[12:06] <i|D> no
[12:06] <frederific> tonren: hmm, dont know then, sorry
[12:06] <i|D> not needed
[12:06] <jrib> !player | almir
[12:06] <Tonren> frederific: Jowi: I think you guys are right - it's probably something that the proxy is trying to verify that Linux doesn't have.
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <castoff> i|D yep remove the # on the entries you use
[12:06] <i|D> okay
[12:06] <kane77> almir, listen if you use gnome, amarok for kde
[12:06] <i|D> i have to remove everywhere #
[12:06] <BackPacker> almir: amarok is very good
[12:06] <i|D> i dont know what to use there;D
[12:06] <almir> using gnome
[12:06] <castoff> i|D and then copy the configuration to /etc
[12:07] <jrib> zOap: maybe .xsession then, though I'm note sure atm
[12:07] <JosefK> kane77: I throw caution to the wind and use amarok in Gnome too ^^
[12:07] <Jowi> Tonren, if you're using firefox now check it's settings or try with another browser to see if that works any better
[12:07] <Batmanuel> hey guys, I need some help with flash sound. I read the faq, the restricted formats page AND the flash troubleshooting page and it only managed to completely break my flash support.
[12:07] <i|D> yes:))
[12:07] <LameBMX> amarok just rocks ...
[12:07] <castoff> i|D lets go to private messages
[12:07] <LameBMX> gnome and im usin it lol
[12:07] <zOap> jrib, .xession doesnt exist, I'll have a look around. thanks :)
[12:07] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: cool! so the first one was just to get the files there. and then rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data /backup <--- is to only update the changed files
[12:07] <Tucky> h3xis you their?
[12:07] <Batmanuel> right now I cant even load flash videos... what should I do?
[12:07] <jrib> zOap: you create it
[12:07] <almir> ok
[12:07] <kane77> JosefK, I think amarok is a bit more mature... but I like to use gnome stuff for gnome :D
[12:08] <Toran> I'm having problems with mounting my iPod
[12:08] <jrib> zOap: or .xprofile
[12:08] <Tonren> Jowi: Well, Firefox works fine in Windows.  I'm sure other browsers wouldn't have any luck in Linux anyway.  Like I said - NOTHING worked, not even Gaim or XChat.
[12:08] <LameBMX> h3xis, did tirus ever show back up
[12:08] <odi3> batmanuel: i used automatix2 to install my flash support i think
[12:08] <frederific> Toran: What happens when you plug it in?
[12:08] <zOap> jrib, ok, thanks
[12:08] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[12:08] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[12:08] <Batmanuel> I'll give it a try...
[12:08] <Toran> Whenever I've just rebooted my computer it works fine, but after a while amarok no longer automounts it. Dmesg shows a lot of buffer i/o errors
[12:08] <purplemunkz> hmm something else that I did notice a little while ago, was that the eth0 interface (integrated on my mobo) is displaying all F's in the h/w address field in the ifconfig report..  is that common?
[12:08] <Jowi> Tonren, might be a cookie that keeps the connection up, that's why i suggested it
[12:08] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: no, they both update the changed files, but the one with --delete also deletes anything in the backup directory that doesn't exist in the source directory, i.e. anything that's been deleted from the source dir since the last backup. In other words, it syncs the two dirs
[12:09] <FaT32> Can anyone help please? I have a problem. I used command prompt to change my xorg.conf due to problems... After that I finally got Gnome... So, how to continue my installation from that Live CD?
[12:09] <frederific> Toran: are you in KDE or gnome?
[12:09] <Toran> fluxbox
[12:09] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: If you ever want to do this kind of thing manually, check out 'unison'
[12:09] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: I mean, in a GUI
[12:09] <Jowi> FaT32, click on "install" icon on the gnome desktop
[12:09] <Friggin> 'evening
[12:10] <Tonren> Jowi: Nope...Internet Explorer opened without a hitch.  I didn't think that was the case.  Like I've been saying - Gaim and Xchat were also affected.  How could a cookie mess with non-browser apps?
[12:10] <kane77> I got stuck somewhere... I want to create a link (or whatever it is) to firefox... how do I do this... i untarred it to /opt/firefox... when I run firefox from command line (/opt/firefox/firefox) it runs well, but I created a file called firefox in /usr/bin/ with contents /opt/firefox/firefox and thought that would run firefox, but it just runs MANY instances of sh or bash... :(
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: what makes you think it's evening? :-)
[12:10] <Friggin> well it s here ;)
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: exactly! :-)
[12:10] <odi3> purplemunkz: when u tried "iwlist scan" in terminal window, were the local wireless networks displayed?
[12:10] <Tonren> Jowi: frederific: Actually... it says here that the library's wi-fi is unfiltered.  That must mean it's not a proxy; there's something up with the router itself.  I wonder what the hell is going on...
[12:10] <Tucky> h3xis you their?????????
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: it's 23:10 here...
[12:10] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: again thanks :)
[12:10] <Friggin> I'm trying to get my wlan to work, but no luck so far
[12:10] <Jowi> Tonren, you mentioned that you have to click on something on a web-page to connect, true or false?
[12:10] <Toran> BackPacker: that counts
[12:11] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: you're very welcome
[12:11] <kane77> Tucky, I thouht he had to go somewhere...
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: True!
[12:11] <Jowi> Tonren, I rest my case :)
[12:11] <BackPacker> Toran: You have some long evenings...  :-)
[12:11] <frederific> Tonren: That is very very very very odd indeed
[12:11] <kane77> BackPacker, it's 00:11 here
[12:11] <castoff> kane77 look at the ln -s command
[12:11] <FaT32> Jowi: I only have Ubuntu 6.10 CD icon on desktop...
[12:11] <BackPacker> kane77: Evening kane77
[12:11] <n2diy> FaT32, what makes you think your install is incomplete?
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: But what you're suggesting seems impossible.  How could a browser cookie, or lack thereof, PREVENT Gaim and XChat and even PING from working?
[12:11] <noiesmo> kane77,  you need to do " sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox" that will create a symbolick link
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: The ping command doesn't care about browser cookies.
[12:12] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:12] <kane77> castoff, what does plain ln do? damn... i think that was wrong...
[12:12] <purplemunkz> hmm..   I do have a wireless card installed in the pc, but I'm not trying to use it.   I'm trying to use the integrated ethernet adapter..   I haven't configured my wireless card yet, because it's using the stupid broadcom chip, and I need to get the system connected to the intenet first so I can get the broadcom fw ripper tool...
[12:12] <Jowi> Tonren, true, but you said you could ping the gateway after that 30 secs. I just trust what you tell me.
[12:12] <kane77> castoff, (I mean without -s)
[12:12] <Tucky> kane do you know when hes gettin back?
[12:12] <Friggin> I'm with 6.06, updated, networkmanager installed and working, but no luck with wlan
[12:12] <castoff> kane77 look at noiesmo answer
[12:12] <timmae> !flash
[12:12] <aoirthoir> ubuntu is for girls
[12:12] <Tucky> cause he was gonna help me wwith my problem
[12:12] <i|D> :p
[12:12] <adaptr> Tonren: most timeouts are associated with DNS trouble
[12:12] <frederific> aoirthoir: and boys!
[12:13] <FaT32> n2diy: because I didn't get any installation screens like partition select, etc.
[12:13] <Tonren> adaptr: I have a feeling it's a DNS issue, but I don't know how to go about resolving it.
[12:13] <castoff> kane77 it makes a hard link
[12:13] <aoirthoir> frederific: yes
[12:13] <odi3> purplemunkz: oooo sry, thought u were trying to install wireless
[12:13] <Friggin> as far as I can tell there's no way to solve this using the gui, right? One has to get one's hand dirty?
[12:13] <Tonren> adaptr: I've had DNS issues on this laptop before.  In fact, for some reason, my /etc/resolv.conf constantly reconfigures itself to have the line: "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" !!!  Sometimes I have to manually remove it to make things work.
[12:13] <adaptr> Tonren: well, do you have access to another DNS server ? try you rISPs secondary as the first one instead, it sometimes helps
[12:13] <Acorp> can anybody help me with boot ? system won't load, i have only black screen
[12:13] <castoff> i|D you getting my pm's?
[12:13] <i|D> * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[12:14] <i|D> lols im soory
[12:14] <kane77> noiesmo, yay!! that works :D
[12:14] <adaptr> Tonren: then you have avahi or named installed, or possible a caching server
[12:14] <n2diy> FaT32, what version are you playing with?
[12:14] <i|D> im register now
[12:14] <break_> would anybody care to help me out?
[12:14] <purplemunkz> yeh, I will be once I get this network issue resolved...   it's just not making any sense, that I can ping virtually any host name and get resonses from the ip's associated with those hosts.. but when I try to open a website in firefox, or try to connect using the apt-get tool.. bam, nothing at all..
[12:14] <break_> first of all, i dont know what to do with a run.gz files
[12:14] <castoff> i|d ok
[12:14] <Jowi> Tonren, adaptr: that's easy to check. open a browser and type in <IP_ADDRESS> (that's google) and see if it works
[12:14] <noiesmo> kane77, :)
[12:14] <kane77> noiesmo, thanx a lot pal!
[12:14] <break_> and when i try extracting it, it errors
[12:14] <FaT32> n2diy: Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD
[12:14] <LameBMX> !anyone | break_
[12:14] <adaptr> Jowi: truem he should check that - but form what he says about resolv.conf, it looks like DNS
[12:14] <Tonren> adaptr: Unfortunately, I don't remember the IP addresses of my ISP's DNS.  I'm at the library, anyway.
[12:14] <eXistenZ> Hello, how can I override ls to ls -la?
[12:14] <Tonren> Jowi: I'm going to do that when I boot back into Linux.
[12:14] <kane77> why there isnt firefox 2 in dapper??
[12:14] <Otacon22> Hi all, I need to use a phone connected by a modem card as a skype speaker, how can i do it?
[12:14] <castoff> i|D you flooded me...lol
[12:14] <adaptr> Tonren: you can always see them
[12:15] <n2diy> FaT32, can you boot without the CD?
[12:15] <Tonren> adaptr: How?
[12:15] <eXistenZ> I tried writing an alias but it still doesn't work =/
[12:15] <i|D> lol im sorry castoff
[12:15] <Jowi> Tonren, if that IP address works in a browser then it's a DNS problem, if not, something else
[12:15] <Slart> eXistenZ:  you could check the man page for ls.. I think it's in the .bashrc file
[12:15] <frederific> kane77: Because when dapper came out, firefox 2 wasnt out
[12:15] <noiesmo> kane77, because most people have moved to edgy i would say
[12:15] <adaptr> Tonren: well, cat /etc/resolv.conf for one
[12:15] <i|D> i only posted what i have written and u not seen castoff
[12:15] <Acorp> Hi, can anyone help me with boot ? when i am trying to boot into gnome, only black screen appears
[12:15] <i|D> im sorry:p
[12:15] <break_> shouldnt your computer/router automatically detect your DNS settings?
[12:15] <odi3> Purplemunkz:to activate my wire connection, i just went to administration->networking-> then clicked on wired connection
[12:15] <Tonren> adaptr: When I do that, I only have 2 lines: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and search (hostname corresponding to my current network)
[12:15] <adaptr> Tonren: if it hasn't screwed that up - but a static (i.e. wired) install really shouldn't mess with that
[12:15] <break_> if you're behind a router, just set your DNS server to the IP address of your router?
[12:15] <FaT32> n2diy: I have Win 98 :) on my drive C I really want Ubuntu
[12:15] <kane77> eXistenZ, alias "ls"="ls -la"
[12:15] <n2diy> eXistenZ: did you log out, and back in?
[12:15] <castoff> i|D  hang on a sec
[12:15] <adaptr> !avahi | tonren
[12:15] <i|D> okie sure:)
[12:16] <eXistenZ> n2diy, ja
[12:16] <break_> anyway
[12:16] <kane77> eXistenZ, but its gone after restart
[12:16] <Tonren> break_: There's been something odd going on with my laptop's DNS.
[12:16] <Jowi> Acorp, does this happen if you create a new user and log in with that one as well?
[12:16] <break_> seriously, i want to install a .run.gz
[12:16] <odi3> purplemunkz: does it say dhcp then inside says enable this connection and auto configuration?
[12:16] <Tonren> !avahi > me
[12:16] <Tonren> ...
[12:16] <break_> and i dont have any idea what to do with it
[12:16] <Tonren> !avahi
[12:16] <adaptr> ubotu is broken !
[12:16] <Slart> break_: fir gunzip it
[12:16] <n2diy> FaT32, hmmm, reboot, and try the install again?
[12:16] <Tonren> Ubotu is dead!
[12:16] <adaptr> !ubotu
[12:16] <kane77> frederific, noiesmo and is it going to be backported?
[12:16] <break_> i tried gunzipping it
[12:16] <Slart> break_: then do a "sh thefilename.run"
[12:16] <break_> and it errored
[12:16] <frederific> !es
[12:16] <Jowi> ubotu quit half an hour ago
[12:16] <break_> it errors
[12:17] <noiesmo> kane77, not sure :(
[12:17] <Moon_Rabbits> I have two questions I'd like some help with, maybe? :}
[12:17] <castoff> i|D you get my pm?
[12:17] <i|D> yes
[12:17] <Acorp> Jowi: it has happen, when i tryied install from CD, it happens, when i installed from alternate CD and now trying to boot from HDD
[12:17] <Jowi> Moon_Rabbits, ask your questions and be precise
[12:17] <castoff> ok i'll send you what you need then
[12:17] <kane77> noiesmo, anyway, how can you backport a package?
[12:17] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have two usb Wlan adopters ... how do i install them when i do lsusb one says  0ace:1215 ZyDAS other one says 18e8:6201  i dont know their brands etc ... i have searched google alot but oculdn't find any solution to it
[12:17] <Slart> break_: then I think you're... in a bad place =)... try downloading the file again? check it with "file filename" to see that it really is a zipped file
[12:17] <Tonren> frederific: Jowi: adaptr: I'm going to boot back into Linux and do some debugging.  If I can see Google after the 30 seconds, I'll know it's DNS.  I'm also gonna sudo aptitude remove avahi named.
[12:17] <odi3> purplemunkz: and is the green light on, where the ethernet cable plugs into the laptop?
[12:17] <purplemunkz> yeh, i did that already, lol.  still nothing..    it just doesn't make any sense at all..   I mean, from everything I am seeing, DNS resolution is working fine, and I can ping my gateway...    but, come to think of it I can't even access my wireless gateway's web page using ffox in ubuntu, although I can hit it fine in windows...   I'm using STATIC ip configuration instead of DHCP.  I've got the ip config set correcty (including dn
[12:17] <JiggleButt> \/\/00+!
[12:17] <JiggleButt> JiggleButt in da house!
[12:17] <JiggleButt> YaY
[12:17] <break_> ive redownloaded the 700mb file 3 times
[12:17] <JiggleButt> WoW
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Wee hee hee hee!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Yeah!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Woohoo!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Yeppers!
[12:18] <break_> 70mb*
[12:18] <Slart> break_: it might just be broken at the source.. what is it you're trying to download?
[12:18] <kane77> JiggleButt, ehm...
[12:18] <break_> UT2004 demo
[12:18] <frederific> tonren: ok
[12:18] <break_> http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004/downloads.html
[12:18] <Slart> break_: got an url? I could try it too
[12:18] <BackPacker> JiggleButt: Pass that bottle over here... :-)
[12:18] <break_> beat ya to it :p
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Here ya go, buddy!
[12:18] <LameBMX> purplemunkz, does your router do the dhcp? and if so you may want to use it ... ive noticed letting things work that way keeps stuff from breaking
[12:18] <Moon_Rabbits> Firstly, my speakers are plugged directly into my motherboard, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to have detected them. When I try and play with the volume settings it says that no sound card is detected. Do I have to have a soundcard or does ubuntu support ones that are integrated into the motherboard?
[12:18] <Slart> break_:  =).. I'll get right on it.. I'll report back when done
[12:18] <Jowi> Acorp, so you get to the login screen at least?
[12:19] <Batmanuel> alright, I tried automatix2 and nothing. Still no flash support -_-
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Slart: May the force be with you!
[12:19] <break_> does that give me 20 minutes to run to the store Slart?
[12:19] <Batmanuel> little help here guys
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Yes?
[12:19] <frederific> kane77: have a look at <http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324956>
[12:19] <FaT32> n2diy: I had a problem while installing... Got black screen with "sync" message... So, I manually changed xorg.conf (added VertRefresh) and after that - startx..... But I got _runned_ Ubuntu not installed
[12:19] <Slart> break_: sure.. I'll be right here
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Batmanuel, what is your Ubuntu problem?
[12:19] <LameBMX> break_, have you tried extracting it first
[12:19] <break_> haha, alright
[12:19] <break_> yes i've tried
[12:19] <Acorp> Jowi: no, only logo and progress bar appears, after that only black screen, without anything
[12:19] <purplemunkz> it does use DHCP, but I have 5 PC's connected to my router and 2 of them are servers, which i don't need pulling IP's via DHCP..   oh, and one of the PC's is my neighbor's PC (connecting to my wireless) and I don't feel like having to reconfigure all of their shiz...
[12:19] <Batmanuel> right now, I have no flash support
[12:19] <seanj> Batmanuel: add multiverse to your apt repositories and install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:19] <n2diy> Moon_Rabbits: You'll have to figure out what the chipset for sound is, on the mom board.
[12:20] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: alsa and oss support integrated ac97 soundcards, don't know about esound
[12:20] <Batmanuel> seanj, trying that, hold on
[12:20] <Slart> break, you tried opening it with that archiver in gnome?
[12:20] <break_> what a nice neighbor you are purplemunkz
[12:20] <purplemunkz> haha yeah...
[12:20] <purplemunkz> she's hot.. what can I say :P
[12:20] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: KDE supports alsa and oss, Gnome uses esound, I believe (dont use Gnome myself)
[12:20] <Acorp> Jowi: i am trying to solve it with some ppl on cz channel, so i left at this time for test something
[12:20] <n2diy> FaT32, hmmm, reboot, and try the install again?
[12:20] <pike_> thats not so bad im using circuit city ap right now..
[12:20] <break_> gunzip...
[12:21] <Slart> Gnome uses alsa too.. or esound.. or arts.. or bah.. there's just to many of them
[12:21] <seanj> gunzip file.run.gz ?
[12:21] <odi3> batmanuel, after installing automatix2, did you go run it, click on multimedia and have automatix2 install "Flash Player"?
[12:21] <break_> yep
[12:21] <seanj> then sh file.run
[12:21] <Jowi> Acorp, ok. you've got some framebuffer problem most likely. boot into recovery mode. type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select vesa as the video driver and go for the default options for the rest and then reboot and see if you still see nothing.
[12:21] <break_> it errors
[12:21] <seanj> break_: what's the error ?
[12:21] <break_> gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[12:21] <Moon_Rabbits> Alright, thanks BackPacker+n2diy
[12:21] <purplemunkz> ah, well I'm going to go bang my head on the wall some more ... wish me luck.
[12:21] <Dimensions> any one got solution for installing Wlan usb Adopters ? in ubuntu .... ???
[12:21] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: If you open a console and enter 'lspci | grep -i audio' you  might see the card listed
[12:21] <seanj> break_: try renaming it to file.run
[12:21] <FaT32> n2diy: thanks, but I will get the same thing... :(
[12:21] <odi3> purplemunkz: gl:)
[12:21] <kane77> frederific, it's a notch harder as I run 64 bit version.. but thanx
[12:21] <purplemunkz> thanks
[12:21] <break_> ahh
[12:21] <seanj> break_: then do: sh file.run
[12:21] <break_> alright
[12:21] <Batmanuel> seanj, still not working.... what the hell
[12:22] <break_> bb in a minute
[12:22] <seanj> break_: if that doesn't work... their own local copy is corrupted
[12:22] <odi3> batmanuel, after installing automatix2, did you go run it, click on multimedia and have automatix2 install "Flash Player"?
[12:22] <frederific> ubotus back...
[12:22] <seanj> Batmanuel: :( did you restart mozilla/firefox
[12:22] <n2diy> FaT32,  ok, so you already tried that?
[12:22] <Batmanuel> ofcourse I did odi3
[12:22] <francalier> has anyone here used loobuntu?
[12:22] <castoff> i|D get all that?
[12:22] <Jowi> Acorp, either you have the wrong video driver or wrong monitor settings. "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should fix that for you.
[12:22] <Batmanuel> yes, seanj, I did
[12:22] <odi3> kk
[12:22] <i|D> yes castoff
[12:22] <break_> UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run: cannot execute binary file
[12:22] <seanj> Batmanuel: in that case I have no idea what's wrong.. sorry :(
[12:22] <Jowi> Acorp, use the "vesa" driver to be safe
[12:22] <Slart> break_: do a md5 on the file.. just to see that we get the same file
[12:22] <castoff> i|D ok let me know
[12:22] <Jowi> brb
[12:23] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: When I input 'lspci | grep -i audio' in the terminal, nothing seems to happen.
[12:23] <kuzmaster> !glgears
[12:23] <break_> tell me how and i will :x
[12:23] <i|D> yes i have got castoff
[12:23] <FaT32> n2diy: yes. I did whole process that I mentioned twice already...
[12:23] <perko> g'day!  is anyone here familiar with HAL?  I get a rather annoying error message each boot: "Failed to Initialize HAL!" .. as a result, USB does not automount.  I have read bug #24029; this is the closest i've found to my prob, but in my case dbus is running.  Any suggestions? I'm running Edgy 64bit (gnome)
[12:23] <n2diy> FaT32,  I've had trouble installing on drives with Win 98, can you low level format the drive?
[12:23] <Slart> break_: type "md5 myawsomelinuxgamefile.run.gz"
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glgears - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <break_> haha
[12:23] <castoff> i|D by the way the man page is man dante.conf
[12:23] <Batmanuel> urge to kill is rising.... I was only missing sound until your fancy faq broke everything. I'm gonna go uninstall everything
[12:23] <frederific> francalier: wow
[12:23] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: OK, just do 'lspci' and look through the output. If it goes by too fast, do 'lspci | less' so you can page up and down, then press 'Q' to quit
[12:24] <break_> command not found?!
[12:24] <i|D> Thanks castoff
[12:24] <Slart> break_: oops, sorry.. md5sum
[12:24] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:24] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: Okay, I used the lspci command, but what exactly am I looking for in the output?
[12:24] <Slart> I get ...     f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857  UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[12:24] <break_> haha, alright here it is
[12:24] <break_> f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857  UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[12:24] <Slart> looks the same..
[12:24] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: Anything that says 'sound' or 'audio' or 'multimedia'
[12:24] <i|D> re
[12:24] <i|D> castoff i readed
 U can read this?
[12:25] <frederific> francalier: loobuntu looks great, how can I install it?
[12:25] <break_> yeah, its the same
[12:25] <break_> yours works?
[12:25] <castoff> i|D huh?
[12:25] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: Nope, nothing there. Hold on a minute.
[12:25] <Slart> break_: same thing here.. someone made a mistake..
[12:25] <break_> ahh, its corrupt?
[12:25] <computrius> ive hit my snag again with linux
[12:25] <computrius> ive run out of problems to fix to get the install working correctly
[12:25] <computrius> im bored
[12:25] <computrius> lol
[12:26] <Jowi> computrius, install beryl with aiglx :)
[12:26] <computrius> already did :)
[12:26] <break_> Slart: so the file is corrupt from the source?
[12:26] <LameBMX> well computrius can you figure out how to make amorak hit the system bell in type with the music ...
[12:26] <Slart> break_: it would seem so... there's nothing on the forums about this? you can't be the first to download this
[12:27] <computrius> hehe
[12:27] <LameBMX> so desktop water will go to the music :)
[12:27] <odi3> computrius: u know how to mount NAS drives?
[12:27] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me how to find out the frame rate that glxgears is running at?
[12:27] <Balsamic_Chicken> does anyone know how to set profile images for gaim? like the one picture that's displayed as u when ur in chat
[12:27] <n2diy> computrius: how do I change my keyboard layout while in terminal? :)
[12:27] <computrius> dont know what an NAS drive is, therefore probably dont have one
[12:27] <Valmarko> Could someone tell how to request the default configuration of my firewall. I would like to undo all the changes I made with guarddog
[12:27] <LameBMX> odi3 look up nfs
[12:27] <break_> i've been out of mountain dew for a couple hours now, i need more. so i'll be back later
[12:27] <bazsl> Newbie question: I am trying to run a program and I get errors of the form "error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open file: No such file or directory". I get the same message for libc.so.6, librt.so.1 and others. What do I need to install to correct this problem?
[12:27] <jrib> !glxgears | kuzmaster
[12:27] <ubotu> kuzmaster: To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[12:27] <phrozen77_> hi all - i've got some problems installing perl-modules using the perl MCPAN shell for modules that are NOT available with apt-get.. seemingly they all failing to make... anyone has an idea what might be wrong?
[12:27] <Jowi> computrius, configure .xsession to start only beryl and gdesklets (you should have NO basic taskbars/docks since that is cheating)
[12:27] <kuzmaster> thanx
[12:27] <break_> when i get back, i'll bring up my other problem. the main reason why i want to try the UT2004 demo
[12:27] <BackPacker> Valmarko: you can use 'iptables -F' but it might not do what you think...
[12:28] <computrius> maybe I could code up a bbs software
[12:28] <computrius> that uses telnet
[12:28] <Slart> break_: another one, http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=559854
[12:28] <break_> i asked the guys in the wine channel, but i think its a driver problem
[12:28] <red_> anybody here a samba guru?
[12:28] <BackPacker> Valmarko: You might need to set up specific rules to allow everything in our out, depending on what you think the 'default configuation' should be
[12:28] <Slart> break_: ah.. well.. go get those drinks then
[12:29] <Valmarko> ummm... there's no simple way
[12:29] <BackPacker> Valmarko: Hold on a minute...
[12:29] <break_> lets hope they have a 2 liter bottle for under $2
[12:29] <computrius> I never have made any real app for linux
[12:29] <break_> :(
[12:29] <Batmanuel> alright, I have flash working. I'm still missing sound though.
[12:29] <Valmarko> ok
[12:29] <Jowi> computrius, should look like this when you're done: http://burninghands.eu/pics/Screenshot.png
[12:29] <break_> i hate living so close to washington dc, prices for everything are higher
[12:29] <phrozen77_> hi all - i've got some problems installing perl-modules using the perl MCPAN shell for modules that are NOT available with apt-get.. seemingly they all failing to make... anyone has an idea what might be wrong?
[12:29] <Batmanuel> I have a hunch its trying to use the OSS mixer but my card uses the ALSA mixer... how do I tell firefox that?
[12:30] <computrius> thats pretty sweet looking :)
[12:30] <jbroome> Jowi: nice scrn schot
[12:30] <red_> anybody here a samba guru? have some questions
[12:30] <jbroome> err, shot
[12:30] <odi3> lamebmx:I have the drives mounted on startup, but after about 30 seconds of use they stop working.....
[12:30] <computrius> I will take that challenge, as I want my desktop to look like that :)
[12:30] <Batmanuel> (vlc media player always gets it wrong too and I have to configure it so it uses the right sound card (I have 2))
[12:31] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: On my mobo I see what appears to be my sound chipset. It says "ESS: AudioDrive", is this of any help to solving my problem?
[12:31] <Jowi> jbroome, luckily Beryl make it possible. don't need anything else :)
[12:31] <computrius> where did you get the dock?
[12:31] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: It was a DNS thing.  I manually set my DNS in /etc/resolv.conf to the IP address of the gateway, and it's working fine now.
[12:31] <Batmanuel> nobody? come on
[12:31] <BackPacker> Valmarko: Here's a 4-line script to take the firewall out (the | indicates the end of each line): #!/bin/bash | iptables-P INPUT ACCEPT | iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT | iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[12:31] <FaT32> n2diy: Ok. I probably found the way. System > Administration > Install... I already got first "installation screen"
[12:31] <LameBMX> computrius, what kinda vid card and how is your aiglx experience ... i went to glx cuz water and everything else works a lot better .. none of the video probs n junk
[12:31] <Pie-rate> if i install kubuntu-desktop, i'll get to chose between gnome and kde when i log in right?
[12:31] <odi3> lamebmx: now they only time out, if i restart my comp i can use them for about 30 seconds, then they time out again
[12:31] <Jowi> Tonren, I'm happy it was that simple :)
[12:31] <jrib> Pie-rate: yes
[12:31] <LameBMX> it totem and it have to be constantly resized to see the video lol
[12:31] <computrius> I installed beryl via ubuntu repositories
[12:31] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: However, the packages "avahi" and "named" aren't installed, but my resolv.conf is still setting itself as nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>.  How do I stop this and tell it to get the nameserver automatically from the wifi router?
[12:31] <jakub_> how can i edit a PDF? are there any tools on gentoo that allow for that? i tried apt-cache search pdf | grep -i write
[12:32] <jrib> computrius: beryl isn't in ubuntu repositories
[12:32] <n2diy> FaT32,  Cool, good luck.
[12:32] <Valmarko> tanks BackPacker
[12:32] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: It'd be an awful hassle to do this every time I want to use the web.
[12:32] <computrius> well.. not ubuntu ones.. I had to add a 3rd party repo
[12:32] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: I recognise the soundcard. I used to have one of those a long time ago. Don't know if Ubuntu can use it or not. Try entering "ESS: Audiodrive Linux" in http://www.google.com/linux and see what comes up
[12:32] <Tonren> jakub_: Can't The GIMP?  I know Photoshop ca.
[12:32] <Tonren> *can
[12:32] <BackPacker> Valmarko: You're welcome
[12:32] <LameBMX> odi3 i dont know i was just tryin to help point you in the right direction
[12:32] <BackPacker> jakub_: You can load PDF files into OpenOffice
[12:32] <jrib> jakub_: you're in #ubuntu, but the GIMP can
[12:33] <Jowi> Tonren, in network-admin create a "location" with a different DNS and switch the locations when you need
[12:33] <odi3> lamebmx: ah ok, thanks anyway:)
[12:33] <Cheese> What's OpenOffice?
[12:33] <Tonren> Jowi: What's "network-admin"?
[12:33] <BackPacker> !openoffice > Cheese
[12:33] <jakub_> BackPacker: how? i tried with openoffice
[12:33] <computrius> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[12:33] <odi3> cheese: openoffice = microsoft office for linux
[12:33] <Slart> !openoffice
[12:33] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:33] <LameBMX> np .. 2x250GB drives for stoarge on this box :/ ... not much need for nas
[12:33] <Tonren> Jowi: Also, if it automatically gets the DNS from the router, I shouldn't have to manually set anything.
[12:33] <Slart> !openoffice | Cheese
[12:33] <ubotu> Cheese: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:33] <Jowi> Tonren, "sudo network-admin" will let you know :)
[12:33] <Pie-rate> !spam
[12:33] <Valmarko> ummm... but... isnt it dangerous? I'm allowing everything.   This thing.   In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[12:34] <perko> :/
[12:34] <Valmarko> Ohhh... ok :)
[12:34] <Valmarko> tanks
[12:34] <Jowi> Tonren, the automatic DNS is from /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and if you want to set it manyally you will have to do that each time. network-admin will let you have different profiles for different connections so that's *one* way of solving it
[12:34] <perko> anyone ever had/solved the "HAL failed to initialize!" error?
[12:34] <Tonren> Jowi: adaptr: Also, "ifconfig" shows the *broadcast* but not the *gateway*.  How do you view the gateway IP address?
[12:35] <mnoir> jrib: what version of the gimp can edit pdfs??
[12:35] <apodictus> @anyone: just installed a fresh unbuntu 6.10 started Totem and tried playing mp3/mpg files but it's complaining about not having the right codecs. If it cant play those what can it play?
[12:35] <|Sora|> how do i make the window tabs trangparent?
[12:35] <ikonia> Tonren: netstat -rn
[12:35] <Tonren> Jowi: I"m convinced that there's something set somewhere preventing networking from automatically setting the DNS based on each router it connects to via DHCP.
[12:35] <adaptr> Tonren: route -n
[12:35] <ikonia> |Sora|: you need to used an advanced window manager settings
[12:36] <|Sora|> where is that found ikaya_
[12:36] <computrius> LameBMX: geforce 7900 GT
[12:36] <jrib> mnoir: all I've tried since dapper
[12:36] <adaptr> Tonren: but start by just running dhclient -v -l
[12:36] <|Sora|> ikonia
[12:36] <Slart> mnoir: gimp? edit pdfs?? since when?
[12:36] <ikonia> yes
[12:36] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have Two usb Wlan adopter ... thers no brand for it ... how do i install it and configure it ??? lsusb gives me this info 0ace:1215 ZyDAS and 18e8:6201
[12:36] <BackPacker> jakub_: I was wrong, it isn't OpenOffice that can edit PDFs, it's KOffice
[12:36] <adaptr> !gimp | mnoir
[12:36] <bulmer> Tonren: per adaptr..those will tell you what the DHCP doles out to your client
[12:36] <ubotu> mnoir: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[12:36] <guru> does anyone here use a usb kvm switch?
[12:36] <Tonren> adaptr: My DHclient doesn't have a -v switch.
[12:36] <|Sora|> where is that found ikonia
[12:36] <mnoir> Slart: i agree - i'm askin him to prove it since i do not beleive it
[12:36] <adaptr> Tonren: well, then leave it off :)
[12:36] <jakub_> BackPacker: okay, i'll try with that, but i'm fairly certain i'll get the same issue
[12:36] <Tonren> adaptr: XD
[12:37] <ikonia> |Sora|: use a form of xgl with beryl
[12:37] <adaptr> Tonren: you do want the -l, or else it will start a second daemon
[12:37] <|Sora|> yikes
[12:37] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: quick question again.  to setup rsync to run every friday @ 7:45pm I would add this to /etc/cron.d/anacron       45 19 * * 5 sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /home/samba /backup ?
[12:37] <jrib> mnoir: it just opens it as an image that you can add stuff too, it doesn't extract text into text layers for example
[12:37] <Jowi> good catch adaptr
[12:37] <adaptr> Tonren: and a third, and afourth.. I've doe it :)
[12:37] <mnoir> adaptr: thanks - i have been using the gimp for quite some time :)
[12:37] <|Sora|> there is no simpler way? ikonia
[12:37] <ikonia> no
[12:37] <Azabe> im trying to remotely log into my ubuntu server, what do i need to enable in order to login remotely?
[12:37] <Tonren> adaptr: man dhclient says that -l just causes it to "try only once".  I don't understand what you mean... I've used dhclient to connect before.
[12:37] <ikonia> Azabe: depends how you want to login
[12:37] <Azabe> ssh
[12:37] <ikonia> via a terminal or an X session
[12:37] <Tonren> Azabe: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[12:37] <bulmer> Azabe: use sshd
[12:37] <javaJake> How do I mount something when it isn't in /etc/fstab?
[12:37] <ikonia> Azabe: just install openssh-server package
[12:37] <javaJake> Say, /dev/sdc1?
[12:37] <frederific> Azabe: do you want jsut a terminal, or a GUI?
[12:37] <BackPacker> BackPacker: Looks right to me, but I don't remember the parameters to cron offhand. You've checked with 'man crontab'?
[12:37] <ikonia> javaJake: mount command
[12:37] <mnoir> jrib: in other words it does not edit pdfs, it converts them to images...
[12:38] <adaptr> mnoir: long enough to grasp the conceptual difference between IMG editing and presentation ? :)
[12:38] <Azabe> just terminal
[12:38] <Slart> mnoir: well.. how about that.. it opened the pdf.. showed me the first page as an image.. wouldn't call it editing though
[12:38] <whileimhere> Im using a IC Power AMD Mobile Sempron laptop with a built in SD card reader. The SD card reader works fine under WinXP with no additional software but under no version of Linux have I gotten it to work. The SD cards work fine with the USB Scandisk peripheral I bought but I would prefer to get the internal SD card reader to work. I have been all over the web including Google and Yahoo and Ubuntu's websites. Can anyone help
[12:38] <mnoir> adaptr: yes
[12:38] <javaJake> ikonia, no, because I do not have /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab
[12:38] <ikonia> so ?
[12:38] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: Sorry, that was meant to be addressed to you:
[12:38] <adaptr> Tonren: if you want to know, just read all of the man page.. else just trust me... you want -l
[12:38] <francalier> mount /dev/sdc1 /mount/point
[12:38] <ikonia> you don't need it in fstab
[12:38] <Jowi> Azabe, ssh is very basic and nice (text only), you can use vnc or freenx for a graphical login that works even in windows
[12:38] <javaJake> ikonia, mount /dev/sdc1 WILL give me an error
[12:38] <mnoir> Slart: I AGREE - SEE MY LAST MESSAGE TO YOU
[12:38] <adaptr> mnoir: and you're sure it can ?
[12:38] <javaJake> francalier, thanks
[12:38] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: You might want to add something like >~/backup.log
[12:38] <bulmer> whileimhere: maybe you can exchange your laptop to a new one? ..just kidding
[12:38] <ikonia> javaJake: thats because thats not the command
[12:38] <Tonren> adaptr: I really do want to know, but all the man page says is that -l causes it to "try once or exit with Error Code 2".
[12:38] <frederific> wmileimhere: sorry, most laptops built in card readers dont work under ubuntu
[12:38] <whileimhere> Bulmer its about a month old.
[12:39] <mnoir> adaptr: can what - edit PDFs - no - of course not
[12:39] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: np, only thing is how is the cron daemon able to sudo?
[12:39] <Jowi> !ssh | Azabe
[12:39] <ubotu> Azabe: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:39] <frederific> whileimhere: sorry, most laptops built in card readers dont work under ubuntu
[12:39] <computrius> anyone know if the tv wonder elite works with linux... ive read various places that said it did, but ive had no luck with it
[12:39] <Slart> mnoir: ah, didn't see that.. I concur.. importing pdf's is more correct
[12:39] <javaJake> OK, last Q, what does GNOME use to make that fancy mount/unmount status bar pop up?
[12:39] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: the cron daemon runs as root
[12:39] <ikonia> !hcl >Computrius
[12:39] <swami> what is the mono developer chanell?
[12:39] <ikonia> #mono
[12:39] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: it doesn't need to use 'su' or 'sudo'
[12:39] <swami> what's it's name
[12:39] <mnoir> Slart: especially when somebody asks how to edit PDFs :)
[12:39] <Azabe> Jowi  i know how to use putty
[12:39] <ikonia> #mono
[12:39] <mohshami> hey guys, whenever I try to watch a movie on xine, the screensaver isn't stopped like it's supposed to, any idea where I should look? I'm using beryl with xfce btw
[12:39] <vinnybinny> so i should remove the sudo
[12:39] <Azabe> i keep getting remote connection refused
[12:40] <Slart> mnoir: =).. well.. it did open it...
[12:40] <ikonia> Azabe: show me the command your using to ssh in
[12:40] <DanglyBits> are there any more current linux kernels available for ubuntu..more current then 2.6.17 ?
[12:40] <jrib> mnoir: well you could edit it :)  But yes, importing would be more correct
[12:40] <Azabe> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:40] <mnoir> Slart: :)
[12:40] <ikonia> DanglyBits: no
[12:40] <javaJake> Does anyone know what GNOME does to mount stuff automagically? I'd like to do the same in a script.
[12:40] <adaptr> Tonren: since the man page is about 5 screens long, I somehow doubt that that's all it says...
[12:40] <ikonia> Azabe: what user name
[12:40] <Azabe> i know how to ssh :)
[12:40] <Azabe> ive been using linux for a while just new to ubuntu
[12:40] <adaptr> !automounter | javaJake
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Tonren> adaptr: I'll take a closer look, but I think that's it, really.  Anyway, I gotta run for now.  Thanks for all your help, guys! A dios!
[12:40] <adaptr> bleh
[12:40] <ikonia> javaJake: gome just does a mount when it gets an event from dbus
[12:41] <javaJake> Oh...
[12:41] <javaJake> OK
[12:41] <mnoir> jrib: i am not trying to be a pita - words are sometimes very loosely used here and it will almost always cause issues...
[12:41] <frederific> Azabe: do you have a firewall installed?
[12:41] <javaJake> ikonia, Then I assume GNOME itself creates the window that pops up when you eject a disk?
[12:41] <ikonia> javaJake: yes
[12:41] <aoirthoir> ok I got grub workin
[12:41] <aoirthoir> brb
[12:41] <javaJake> ikonia, rats... I was hoping it was a program
[12:41] <ikonia> no
[12:42] <Azabe> um, is there some sort of a firewall that comes default wiht the ubuntu-server install?
[12:42] <mnoir> jrib: seems to me that 'how can i edit hippos?' means changing the file within the framework of the structure of the file.
[12:42] <ikonia> no
[12:42] <kram_> hello guys, i have a problem with ubuntu(latest stable) on my laptop, when i boot it up powernowd wasnt working, so i switched to powersave, unfortunaly at boot time only the governor performance gets loaded, but i want the govenor on demand
[12:42] <Azabe> if so im not aware of it
[12:42] <frederific> Azabe, nope, don't think so
[12:42] <ikonia> Azabe: no ther eisn't
[12:42] <ikonia> isn't
[12:42] <BackPacker> Azabe: the firewall is built in to the Linux kernel. It's called iptables
[12:42] <Slart> Azabe: iptables... or whatever it's called now.. but I don't think it's filtering anything
[12:42] <BackPacker> Azabe: also called netfilter
[12:42] <ikonia> no rules are installed by default
[12:42] <mnoir> kram_: latest stable is not good enough a definition any more now that we have LTS - 6.06 or 6.10?
[12:43] <BackPacker> Azabe: If you want to set up firewalling, you could try Firestarter or Guarddog
[12:43] <ikonia> BackPacker: he doesn't
[12:43] <adaptr> does anybody have a suggestion for an IRC client that does decent thread highlighting ? and I mean somehting that's actually usable, like: right-click on a nick and select Add to thread.. then all selected nicks wil be highlighted, or better yet, spliced off to a new window, so I can at least attempt to follow a conversation
[12:43] <ikonia> he's trying to use ssh
[12:43] <Jowi> Azabe, no, the firewall is open. but you might want to add "sshd: ALL" to  /etc/hosts.allow
[12:43] <kram_> mnoir: sry for that, i am using 6.10
[12:43] <ikonia> Jowi: what command did you do to install the ssh server
[12:43] <BackPacker> ikonia: OK, thanks, I wasn't following the conversation from the start...
[12:44] <ikonia> BackPacker: no problem, just didn't want you to waste your tme
[12:44] <ikonia> time
[12:44] <mnoir> kram_: sry not needed :)
[12:44] <Slart> adaptr: I've never seen one that does that.. but let me know if you find one.. I want it too
[12:44] <ikonia> Azabe: what command did you use to install ssh server
[12:44] <mnoir> adaptr: me too!
[12:44] <Jowi> ikonia, apt-get install openssh-server
[12:44] <ikonia> Jowi: sorry - that was the wrong person. I was meant to ask someone else
[12:44] <eXistenZ> what's the difference between fakeroot and sudo?
[12:44] <adaptr> Slart: if I could program I'd build one, because this has irritated me from the first ime I've used IRC.. it is sooo obvious
[12:45] <ikonia> eXistenZ: fakeroot is not a command, sudo is
[12:45] <Slart> adaptr: indeed.. I'm using gnome xchat at the moment.. it's ok.. but it could be better
[12:45] <ikonia> fake root is an environment
[12:45] <ikonia> sudo is a command use to assume root permissions
[12:45] <francalier> fakeroot is also a command.
[12:45] <ikonia> really ?
[12:45] <adaptr> slart, mnoir: there are probably a lot of hangovers from the days when IRC was all text and no GUI.. but I mean come ON! grow up people ! :)
[12:45] <ikonia> I've never used that
[12:45] <Jowi> Azabe, "connection refused" is probably a firewall issue *or* a blocked port.
[12:45] <francalier> the command you use to run something in the fakeroot environment.
[12:46] <ikonia> Azabe: what command did you do to install ssh server
[12:46] <Slart> adaptr: hmm.. I still think irc is pretty much all text =)
[12:46] <adaptr> Slart, mnoir: you know of an IRC client that's at least decently scriptable, like mIRC is ?
[12:46] <Slart> adaptr: I think xchat is among the better..
[12:46] <Pie-rate> mirc?
[12:46] <Azabe> ikonia: nevermind, my bad. didn't know that default install doesn't bother installing sshd :)
[12:46] <ikonia> exactly
[12:46] <Azabe> i was assuming that it was installed
[12:46] <eXistenZ> what is a chroot environment?
[12:46] <ikonia> thats why I was asking
[12:46] <ikonia> eXistenZ: read the wiki
[12:47] <Azabe> thanks :)
[12:47] <Slart> !irc
[12:47] <mnoir> fakeroot man page:  http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/man1/fakeroot.1.html
[12:47] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[12:47] <adaptr> Slart: true, in its essence, yes  - but one of the advantages of a GUI is that it lets me manipulate text outside of the restrictions associated with a text-only screen... a very, very simple and obvious concept that a lot of OSS programmers still fail to grasp
[12:47] <Pie-rate> gaim pwnz j00
[12:47] <sleepy475> isn't bitchx a good client?
[12:47] <ikonia> sleepy475: I like it
[12:47] <mnoir> Slart: better than konversation and why?
[12:47] <adaptr> sleepy475: is it scriptable ?
[12:47] <ikonia> yes
[12:47] <Slart> mnoir: because I'm running gnome? =).. I haven't tried konversation so I wouldn't know
[12:47] <adaptr> !chroot | eXistenZ
[12:47] <ubotu> eXistenZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:48] <adaptr> hmm.. not that useful as an explanation
[12:48] <sleepy475> I forget how to get it, whats the apt get command for it?
[12:48] <mnoir> Slart: oic - a purist :)
[12:48] <sleepy475> to install
[12:48] <sleepy475> been a long time
[12:48] <ikonia> apt-get install BitchX
[12:48] <sleepy475> thanks
[12:48] <adaptr> and to think people call Linux difficult... :)
[12:48] <BlueDevil> adaptr: bitchx is scriptable
[12:49] <Slart> mnoir: hehe.. nah.. I think I have half of kde installed already.. there are so many nice small programs for kde that doesn't exist for gnome
[12:49] <Pie-rate> Slart: like?
[12:49] <mnoir> ikonia: no caps in that command to install
[12:49] <adaptr> BlueDevil: in what ?
[12:49] <ikonia> mnoir: don't think it matters to be honest, but no
[12:49] <ikonia> I was typing it as its said
[12:49] <Slart> Pie-rate: hmm.. what was the last one.. a vnc client that supports scaling..
[12:49] <ikonia> my bad
[12:49] <mnoir> ikonia: i promise it does
[12:49] <ikonia> mnoir: I blelieve yo
[12:49] <ikonia> you
[12:50] <BlueDevil> adaptr: its own scripting language, i guess
[12:50] <mnoir> .me just installed bitchx.....
[12:50] <BlueDevil> adaptr: i believe you can write plugins in tcl
[12:50] <mnoir> uuh - you know what i meant :)
[12:50] <ikonia> we do
[12:50] <adaptr> Slart: I used to think so too. .until I started ripping all the superfluous KDE stuff out again, because I could not get shit to work anymore.. think artsd (iiiew!) the dcop framework, kdm, and a lot of smaller things that can generously break your system, or at least make it less stable
[12:50] <adaptr> BlueDevil: Tcl it is, then - thanks
[12:51] <Otacon22> I need to use the telephone as a speaker and microphone for skype , I have connected it by a modemd card, how i can do it?
[12:51] <Slart> adaptr: oh? I haven't had any problems yet.. perhaps I'm just lucky.. I think i have artsd installed.. but it just sits there.. =)
[12:51] <jamesbrose> How can I completely format a old harddisk?
[12:52] <ikonia> jamesbrose: partition it and put a new file system on it
[12:52] <ikonia> or dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/$harddisk bs=512k
[12:52] <mag_> how can I see all the computers conected in the la with console ?
[12:52] <adaptr> Slart: do you use JACK, or anything else that would like to share your audio ? small tip : KDE ...won't
[12:53] <kitche> ikonia: why not just use /dev/zero? instead of /dev/random
[12:53] <ikonia> mag_: you can't
[12:53] <ikonia> kitche: so it write data, zero is fine though
[12:53] <adaptr> mag_: define "see"
[12:53] <castoff> jamesbrose if you are looking for DoD wipe look at bcwipe
[12:53] <mag_> ikonia: hummmm... ok ! so how can I know the name of the computer and the name of network that the machine is connected ?
[12:53] <jamesbrose> castoff while trying to use fdisk i get this: k
 using fdisk: ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir
[12:53] <Slart> adaptr: I've been fighting with getting sound to work so I think I have pretty much everything installed.. jackd, esd, arts.. probably something else too.. yes.. Alsa of course.. and OSS.. and OSS through ALSA..
[12:53] <ikonia> mag_: you can't
[12:54] <frederific> otacon22: I don't think you can to be honest, modem drivers in linux are decidedly dodgy. You'd be better off getting a USB telephone (google for "skype handset" or similar)
[12:54] <andy> slart, i'vve got same problem
[12:54] <mag_> ikonia: mm ok ! thank's
[12:54] <Slart> andy: ok, what kind of problem?
[12:54] <Slart> andy: sound?
[12:54] <andy> with my tecra8000
[12:54] <Otacon22> francalier, I am an hacker , I want to try, i know that is possibile( with windows I know howto do)
[12:54] <Slart> andy: tecra8000?? what is that?
[12:54] <andy> i tried te find out what is wrong, but i'm a newbie
[12:54] <castoff> jamesbrose not a clue...tried googling it?
[12:54] <mag_> adaptr: juts I want to know if I can use a command like net view on MS-dos but in linux of course !
[12:54] <ikonia> hacker - oooh my lord
[12:55] <andy> tecra800 = toshiba laptop
[12:55] <Slart> andy: hehe.. so am I.. ah.. laptops.. the behorned one lives in laptops.. =)
[12:55] <adaptr> mag_: sure, but you'll get the same kind of info back, i.e. for Windows networking
[12:55] <andy> grinn
[12:55] <adaptr> mag_: you probably need to have a local samba server running though
[12:55] <mag_> adaptr: ok... thank's ! :D
[12:55] <ikonia> adaptr: he would so its in the same work group  / domain
[12:55] <Slart> andy: no tutorials on the net?
[12:56] <andy> but i'm okay, sound is not nessasery
[12:56] <ikonia> but that will only show windows machines - not any other unix machines
[12:56] <Jowi> Slart, try "killall esd" and see if that solves it
[12:56] <mag_> adaptr: probably... this is my problem I'm tryn to make a data server with samba but I got some problems... can you help me ?
[12:56] <Slart> Jowi: solves what? my sound is working alright
[12:56] <andy> yeah, i'll look it up, tomorrow, it's 01:00 over here ( netherlands)
[12:56] <frederific> otacon22: I really don't think it is possible, almost all modem cards are "winmodems", almost all of the processing and what-not is done in a proprietry driver which is only available for windows
[12:56] <Jowi> Slart, oh I thought you said that you were fighting for sound to work :)
[12:57] <Slart> andy: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-November/009979.html
[12:57] <Slart> Jowi: hehe.. I have been fighting.. apparently I won =)
[12:57] <Otacon22> mmm
[12:57] <andy> thnx slart
[12:57] <Jowi> good for you Slart!
[12:57] <frederific> otacon22: if you do manage it though, I'd be very interested, I've often thought about doing it myself
[12:57] <Slart> andy: you're welcome.. hope you get it to work
[12:57] <Otacon22> frederific, I have in my hand now 8 modem cards, I can start to try
[12:58] <spinynorm> anyone know what a zillion "rx invalid nwid" errors means in iwconfig?
[12:58] <b_e_n_z> i have a core 2 duo laptop with windows xp home on it... is it okay to install the amd64 desktop iso and dual boot?
[12:58] <andy> :) yess, and if i can, i'll format my windows machine
[12:58] <ikonia> yes
[12:58] <frederific> otacon22: the very best of luck to you, I look forward to hearing how you get on
[12:58] <kram_> i need help with my powersaved pls, i wnat to load govenor ondemand at boot time, instead it always loads performace govenor, when ir estart the daemon later wit works, i am using ubuntu 6.10
[12:58] <shreeve> what's the "correct" way to see "what's been added" to a new package, such as the kernel? for example, how would I tell what's new between kernel 2.6.20-3 and 2.6.20-4???
[12:59] <ikonia> shreeve: change log
[12:59] <shreeve> ikonia, where do i *find* the changelog?
[01:00] <LaptopZZ> is there a way to get the text installer instead of using the new graphical one?
[01:00] <ikonia> for an ubuntu kernel - or kernels in general
[01:00] <shreeve> ikonia, for ubuntu
[01:00] <enyc> LaptopZZ: get the 'alternate' cd
[01:00] <frederific> LaptopZZ- you need to d/l the alternate CD
[01:00] <ikonia> not sure where they are on ubuntu
[01:00] <LaptopZZ> thanks...
[01:00] <Simka>
[01:00] <shreeve> enyc, can the server cd also do a text install?
[01:00] <Simka>       ???
[01:00] <ewook> ?
[01:00] <ikonia> Simka: english channel
[01:00] <Nvening> hi, in terminal what does -a do??
[01:01] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[01:01] <ikonia> Nvening: just typing -a ?
[01:01] <ewook> Nvening, -a on what?
[01:01] <frederific> Nvening, depends on the command you use it with
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> is there a way using the graphical installer to choose a different video driver?
[01:01] <Nvening> i see
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> I have a nvidia geforce 6800 and it refuses to work
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> it gives me bizarre lines
[01:01] <ewook> Simka, dude, english.
[01:01] <shreeve> anyone know where the ubuntu kernel changelog files are? (so I can tell the difference between kernels?)
[01:01] <frederific> for example, ls -a shows hidden files as well
[01:01] <ikonia> Simka: this is an english channel
[01:01] <enyc> shreeve: i think the server cd is normally text install but it may vary somewhere between dapper and edgg ... again not sure
[01:01] <Nvening> is there a page abput the -letter commands cause i would like to know what they mean lol
[01:02] <shreeve> enyc, ok
[01:02] <ikonia> Nvening: its different for EVERY command
[01:02] <Simka>
[01:02] <Nvening> ok
[01:02] <ikonia> Simka: speak english
[01:02] <Simka> no speack english
[01:02] <SilentDis> I'm looking for a bit of software, and hoping someone here can point me in the right direction.  I need a way to send messages over a LAN without a server in place.  Basically, a LAN-only serverless IM proggie that's fairly easy to use.  Something like Winpopup on Windows would be ideal.
[01:02] <ewook> Simka, your lines ends up looking :
[01:02] <Simka> no speak english
[01:02] <enyc> shreeve: for a true server you will likely want dapper LTS rather than edgy at this time...
[01:02] <frederific> Nvening, to find out what they do for a command, type man <COMMAND> and scroll down to options
[01:02] <ewook> Simka, well, you did just now.
[01:02] <mnoir> Simka: what language?
[01:02] <frederific> SilentDIS: Take a look at linpopup
[01:02] <Simka> ewook what ?
[01:02] <Simka> RUSSIAN
[01:02] <mnoir> !ru
[01:02] <SilentDis> frederific, thanks :)
[01:02] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:03] <ewook> Nvening, or command --help
[01:03] <enyc> SilentDis: I think there is or was a Linpopup program actually... i.e. speaks winpopup over the network
[01:03] <Nvening> thanks
[01:03] <ewook> mnoir, wow. that's a bunch of weird chars ;P
[01:03] <Simka> Sencs
[01:03] <Wakeskater> ubuntu keeps locking up on me for no reason. is there a certain log that can help me find out the problem?
[01:03] <mnoir> ewook: thank the bot...
[01:04] <frederific> !linpopup
[01:04] <ubotu> linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:04] <RichW> Does my xorg.conf look ok?  Dri wont load and it has two device sections? http://pastebin.ca/308769
[01:04] <SilentDis> enyc, cool.  i was looking into gui versions of talk, but that just seemed WAY too complex :P
[01:04] <mnoir> ewook: i got perfectly good cyrillic message
[01:04] <shreeve> anyone out there using kvm virtualization with ubuntu?
[01:04] <frederific> !linpopup | silentdis
[01:04] <adaptr> mag_: what are you trying to do ? I've done samba
[01:04] <ewook> mnoir, oh, so thats what it was :)
[01:04] <SilentDis> frederific, thank you :)
[01:04] <enyc> SilentDis: well ytalk does work... on the same host... over the nnetwork can be problematic...
[01:04] <Slart> mnoir: so.. how was bitchx?
[01:04] <ikonia> RichW: your loading the dri module on ati
[01:04] <frederific> you're welcome
[01:04] <RichW> yeh?
[01:04] <ikonia> I don't believe you do that with ati
[01:04] <mnoir> Slart: i do not like it - i am gui spoiled....
[01:04] <RichW> ikonia: i have a 9800 pro
[01:05] <mag_> adaptr: I eanto to do a data server here in my job all the people use windows xp but I wnat to do a linux server...
[01:05] <ikonia> I don't believe you load the dri modules with the ati drivers
[01:05] <Slart> mnoir: hehe.. so the search for the perfect IRC-client goes on
[01:05] <Wakeskater> ubuntu keeps locking up on me for no reason. is there a certain log that can help me find out the problem?
[01:05] <mnoir> Slart: i guess i like konversation but i would like an easier way to set highlights
[01:05] <SilentDis> enyc, yeah, that's what I was finding.  way too much work for my neophyte house-mate to figure out.  I needed something very easy for them to figure out, and preferrably serverless (the server box has a mere 64mb ram, and it does the whole LAMP thing) :P
[01:05] <RichW> ikonia: nvidia only?
[01:05] <seanj> what about xchat-gnome ?
[01:05] <XXX> hey
[01:05] <rogue780> is there a virtual machine type program out there freely available besides bochs?
[01:05] <ikonia> RichW: no you don't load dri with nvidia - you let the driver do it
[01:05] <XXX> can anyone help me with something?
[01:06] <Slart> seanj: I'm using that at the mo ment... I think it's just a pretty shell around xchat
[01:06] <n2diy> Wakeskater: /var/log/messages
[01:06] <ikonia> XXX: you have to ask
[01:06] <Slart> !ask | XXX
[01:06] <ubotu> XXX: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You could try booting with the Live CD, mounting your main drive in /mnt, then checking out /var/log/messages
[01:06] <seanj> Slart: yeah, I prefer the original interface
[01:06] <mnoir> !anyone | XXX
[01:06] <ubotu> XXX: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:06] <XXX> when i dl something from a ftp server, where does it go?
[01:06] <adaptr> mag_: any particular reason ? :) if you company has Windows server licenses (or the money for them) that would be much simpler
[01:06] <RichW> ikonia: shall i remove refrences to dri from xorg.conf?
[01:06] <ikonia> XXX: you tell it where to go
[01:06] <mnoir> XXX: current dir usually
[01:06] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: come to think of it, you probably don't need the Live CD. Just grep through the file for the time it went down
[01:06] <Slart> XXX: ehh.. probably to some default dir.. have you checked you home?
[01:06] <XXX> o ok ty
[01:06] <ikonia> RichW: I'd check the wiki for the requirements
[01:06] <seitan> i have to ati drivers install and working for my radeon 9600xt, how do i configure the tv out?
[01:07] <SilentDis> rogue780, there's Xen (linux on linux, sort of), qemu (very decent)
[01:07] <seanj> you're welcome XXX ;P
[01:07] <Wakeskater> i have messages open. what am i looking for?
[01:07] <LaptopZZ> thanks
[01:08] <n2diy> Wakeskater: What time was your last freeze?
[01:08] <Simka> what translate the server for on russian language?
[01:08] <mag_> adaptr: 3 months ago the windows server was disturbed and all the information disappear :(
[01:08] <SilentDis> !ru | simka
[01:08] <ubotu> simka:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:08] <n2diy> ! ru
[01:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:08] <rogue780> SilentDis, thanks
[01:08] <Simka> write in  please
[01:08] <Wakeskater> just a few minutes ago
[01:08] <andrew_> anyone: Is there a way to make sure direct rendering in OpenGL is working correctly?
[01:08] <SilentDis> rogue780, are you looking to do WinXP under Ubuntu?
[01:08] <mag_> adaptr:  that is the reason that now I bought a dell server and now I want to use linux !
[01:08] <Simka> write in privat please
[01:08] <ikonia> Simka: we don't speak russion
[01:08] <sjust1216> When I download a kernel from kernel.org and try to untar it it goes so far and then gives me an error that the file is corrupt
[01:08] <SilentDis> !ru > Simka
[01:09] <enyc> SilentDis: heh I used to have a few user accounts that would login and then run talk to enyc
[01:09] <n2diy> Simka, that was Russian, what language are you looking for ?
[01:09] <adaptr> mag_: what do you mean, "disturbed" ? any decent server (windows or otherwise) has redundant storage and a backup strategy
[01:09] <ikonia> sjust1216: why are you doing that ?
[01:09] <enyc> SilentDis: on the old 'junk' slackware box
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Look near the end of the file. See what was happening just before you rebooted. You did reboot, didn't you?
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <adaptr> mag_: the very first step towards data security is making daily backups of your data - you can do that in any OS
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <sjust1216> to see if I can compile my own kernel
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <Simka>
[01:09] <rogue780> SilentDis, no, I'm looking to find a better way to test an OS I'm developing other than constantly rebooting
[01:09] <Slart> Simka: noone here speaks russian.. I think.. try the russian channel
[01:09] <ikonia> sjust1216: why - it will probably break your ubuntu bo
[01:09] <Simka>      ?
[01:09] <SilentDis> simka, this is the english-only support channel.  you said you spoke russian before, is that not correct?
[01:09] <ikonia> box
[01:10] <mnoir> Simka: is not understandable!
[01:10] <Wakeskater> I was just in firefox, browsing the web when it hung...
[01:10] <Wakeskater> but it happened while in vmware
[01:10] <SilentDis> rogue780, qemu is probably your best bet then
[01:10] <andrew_> anyone: Is there a way to make sure direct rendering in OpenGL is working correctly?
[01:10] <Wakeskater> it just locks up randomly, its happened quite a few times today
[01:10] <SilentDis> !qemu | rogue780
[01:10] <sjust1216> it might but I just want ot see
[01:10] <ubotu> rogue780: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:10] <ikonia> andrew_: glxgears
[01:10] <sjust1216> to see
[01:10] <Jowi> andrew_, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:10] <mag_> adaptr: Yes I know but the windows server some day didn't work and all the information or almost all disappear
[01:10] <SilentDis> andrew_, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:10] <spinynorm> anyone else using a wg311t? i cant get mine to work in edgy
[01:10] <SilentDis> Jowi, you beat me to it :P
[01:10] <ikonia> sjust1216: then you should know how to untar a file if your trying to build a kernel
[01:10] <archie> how to view all disks path
[01:10] <andrew_> ikonia: yeah cedega runs glxgears, they show, but are messed up
[01:11] <Jowi> sorry for that SilentDis :)
[01:11] <SilentDis> archie, more info please.  could you describe what you're trying to do?
[01:11] <ikonia> andrew_: why ar eyou using cedega
[01:11] <SilentDis> Jowi, lol
[01:11] <mnoir> !elaborate | archie
[01:11] <ubotu> archie: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:11] <BackPacker> archie: Do you mean you want to see where all drives are mounted?
[01:11] <PORDO> i'm about to reinstall edgy eft, and i'm considering dumping my reiser partitions for something that might work better with edgy.  is this a particularly important issue?  any suggestions on which FS to use folks?
[01:11] <enyc> SilentDis: hrrm on edgy you can compile and install kqemu without then needing te recompile qemu so far as I can seee
[01:11] <sjust1216> yes tar -xvjf the file
[01:11] <andrew_> ikonia: just testing it out, but i would like to fix my opengl problem
[01:11] <ikonia> PORDO: personal choice for your needs
[01:11] <archie> ok i formated one of my disk to ext
[01:11] <ikonia> only you can asnwer that
[01:11] <riotkittie> anyone know offhand if there's any difference between the Dapper live disc dl, the Dapper alt install download and the uhh uhh Dapper CDs sent via shippit in terms of the software initially included?
[01:11] <Jowi> PORDO, ext3 is a favourite
[01:11] <jakob> Can someone help me with modprobe?
[01:11] <archie> i cant see it
[01:11] <PORDO> ikonia i'm just using it as a home desktop OS, doing some music production in Ardour and what not..
[01:11] <BackPacker> archie: you won't see it until you mount it
[01:11] <SilentDis> enyc, yeah, it's in the package list, nice and simple to use, there's even gui managers of VMs out there (saw one up at gnomefiles.org)
[01:11] <andrew_> ikonia: glxinfo | grep direct gives me a "yes"
[01:11] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, can i show you the end of my loge.maybe you can help me out
[01:12] <Wakeskater> *log
[01:12] <archie> i even cant see it in kdisk
[01:12] <pale_horse> has anyone done a good install of "feisty" ?
[01:12] <ikonia> PORDO: its personal taste, all have pro's and cons
[01:12] <SilentDis> andrew_, then you're set, direct rendering is working properly :)
[01:12] <Jowi> andrew_, so DRI is set up properly.
[01:12] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Not sure I can, but stick it in a pastebin then others can see it too
[01:12] <Wakeskater> not sure what that is
[01:12] <PORDO> ikonia well, sure it's personal taste.  but i've described what my needs are, so doesn't that help narrow it down?  i don't need a web server setup for instance.
[01:12] <SilentDis> pale_horse, since feisty is... what, 4 months out still... I can't see it as being all that 'together' yet ;)
[01:12] <BackPacker> !pastebin > Wakeskater
[01:12] <mnoir> !feisty | pale_horse
[01:12] <ubotu> pale_horse: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <oredownik> siema
[01:13] <andrew_> Then I wonder why cedega is lying to me
[01:13] <archie> when i try to mount it says no fstab or mstab entry or somethin like dat
[01:13] <ikonia> not really, eg: ext3 would be fine but performance suffers a little with journaling, xfs is faster but has no journaling, reiser is good but has other drawbacks
[01:13] <ikonia> all the file systems are aceptable
[01:13] <riotkittie> feisty is fine if you like to watch your OS break
[01:13] <pale_horse> SilentDis I got the iso but the installer fails
[01:13] <ikonia> its what you want in your trade off
[01:13] <SilentDis> andrew_, I can help a bit with cedega, i use it myself
[01:13] <riotkittie> dont use it as your main OS and you'll be fine
[01:13] <jakob> How do I monitor which modules gets added with modprobe?
[01:13] <pale_horse> I am used to breaking my OS :)
[01:13] <red_> need help setting up user and passwords in samba
[01:13] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste the last dozen or so lines of your /var/log/messages
[01:13] <SilentDis> pale_horse, I bet it does!  lol.  it's still very alpha.  you can hit up the ubuntu+1 room, and see if they want your bug reports though :)
[01:13] <pale_horse> I was a gentoo / sourcemage user a long time
[01:13] <ikonia> red_: smbpasswd
[01:13] <daviey> PORDO, music production, have you looked into http://www.jokosher.org/
[01:14] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: then come back and give us the URL
[01:14] <n2diy> jakob: lsmod
[01:14] <enyc> ikonia: ext3 seems like a good choice with its rock_solid reliability and good performance in 'typical' situations so far as I can see
[01:14] <archie> i dont know what disk exactly to mount coz i cant see it name
[01:14] <archie> dont remember path
[01:14] <pale_horse> thanks SilentDis  I'll visit
[01:14] <SilentDis> pale_horse, check out the !feisty info bit :)
[01:14] <mnoir> archie: well what disk did you format?
[01:14] <jakob> n2diy is there a way to keep it running so I can see what gets added?
[01:14] <ikonia> enyc: I have no problem with ext3 - but for real time encoding you may benifit from a faster file system, depends what your doing
[01:14] <bulmer> archie: do you remember which other hd you have?
[01:14] <andy> bye bye ... AND DON'T GO BACK TO MICROSOFT !!!!
[01:14] <andy> grinn
[01:14] <archie> yes
[01:14] <kaoz> can someone tell me how to get cc1plus?
[01:14] <crimsun> kaoz: install build-essential
[01:14] <BackPacker> archie: It won't have a path until you mount it. It will have a device name in /dev - possibly something like /dev/hdc
[01:14] <enyc> ikonia: makes sense
[01:15] <n2diy> jakob: I don't know?
[01:15] <red_> join #/samba
[01:15] <SilentDis> !cclplus
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cclplus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <kaoz> build essential is installed
[01:15] <SilentDis> kaoz, I know as much as ubotu knows on that one, sorry :(
[01:15] <n2diy> jakob: take a look at man lsmod.
[01:15] <Melissa|X> I'm using Edgy and I just got my usb headset working, with mic, but I can't figure out how to get it to work with teamspeak. it auto-mutes me when I join a server
[01:15] <Slart> kaoz: what is cc1plus?
[01:15] <archie> where can i see the name i gave i.e linux_disk
[01:15] <crimsun> kaoz: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[01:15] <kaoz> i am trying to get my nostromo n52 game pad to work with dapper
[01:15] <bulmer> archie: on which controller is it attached on?
[01:15] <jakob> n2diy do you know how I can prevent a module from being loaded?
[01:16] <ikonia> jakob: black list it
[01:16] <archie> no controller
[01:16] <kaoz> 2.6.15-23-386
[01:16] <Scrocko> hi people.. i've just installed ubuntu from a cd afriend of mine gave me... now, this is version 5. something... can I upgrade to 6.10 or do I have to install it from scratch??
[01:16] <kaoz> dapper release
[01:16] <red_> i received this error when trying to get my samba password setup Could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Failed to change password for red
[01:16] <BackPacker> archie: You must have put it on a controller, oryou couldn't format it
[01:16] <jakob> ikonia, I tried that. Which blacklist file should I use?
[01:16] <riotkittie> anyone know offhand if there's any difference between the Dapper live disc dl, the Dapper alt install download and the uhh uhh Dapper CDs sent via ship-it in terms of the software initially included?
[01:16] <ikonia> red_: samaba is not allowing you to connect on local host
[01:16] <adaptr> mag_: Still, this is not directly a consequence of running Windows.. I am merely trying to figure out whether you want to "do Linux" because you were disappointed with Windows, or because of some other reason... although disappointment is a good enough reason in general, your vague descriptions of it giving you problems lead me to believe it is more a gut reaction than a considered move to a different server platfoprm.. which is not without its challenges
[01:16] <Snide> exit
[01:16] <archie> what do u mean controller ?
[01:16] <crimsun> kaoz: then --reinstall g++-4.0
[01:16] <archie> i dont understand u
[01:16] <ikonia> !blacklist
[01:16] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[01:17] <BackPacker> archie: If it's the master on IDE channel 1, it will be hda, the slave on channel 1 is hdb, the master on IDE channel 2 is hdc and the slave on channel 2 is hdd
[01:17] <seanj> riotkittie: they're all the same once installed
[01:17] <SilentDis> Scrocko, you have to upgrade one version at a time.  I assume you have 5.10, so you'd have to step to 6.06, then 6.10 if you wanted the latest.  bit of a pain.  I'd recommend just pulling 6.10, burning the CD, and going from there
[01:17] <Simka> Say please you have ICQ?
[01:17] <kaoz> yes i have installed gcc-3.4 right now
[01:17] <archie> i have one disk
[01:17] <mnoir> Scrocko: you will need to do 2 dist upgrades.  you might want to d/l a more recent iso instead
[01:17] <riotkittie> seanj, hm. odd.
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simk
[01:17] <archie> its partition
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:17] <crimsun> kaoz: it's not part of that package; it's part of g++-3.4 and g++-4.0
[01:17] <bulmer> archie: use  fdisk -l
[01:17] <Simka> i dont understand u
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:17] <Simka> Say please you have ICQ?
[01:17] <jakob> ikonia, nvm I think I figured it out. Is there a way to monitor which modules gets loaded?
[01:17] <BackPacker> archie: If you haveone disk, it's called hda if it's an IDE disk, and sda if it's SCSI
[01:17] <seanj> ikonia: use
[01:17] <ikonia> lsmod
[01:17] <ikonia> as you've just been told
[01:17] <crimsun> kaoz: it's not needed for a C compiler, but it is needed for preprocessing for the C++ frontend
[01:17] <seanj> use | not >
[01:17] <Scrocko> ok, that's what i feared :( thanks fro the help...
[01:18] <frederific> !kvm | frederific
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <archie> ide
[01:18] <ikonia> seanj:  no problem but why
[01:18] <seanj> !ru | Simka
[01:18] <ubotu> Simka:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:18] <bulmer> archie: use  fdisk -l
[01:18] <riotkittie> i have been reading books and tutorials and such and when they include images of whats supposed to be a default install, they have things i dont
[01:18] <ikonia> seanj: he asked for it in a pm
[01:18] <ewook> Simka, settle down, and go to a russian channel.
[01:18] <crimsun> Simka: don't spam, please
[01:18] <archie> L or I
[01:18] <seanj> ikonia: oh sorry
[01:18] <mnoir> riotkittie: that is not uncommon
[01:18] <SilentDis> Simka, we're happy to help if you have a problem, and can relate it in english.  if that's tough (understandably), there's language specific chat rooms available.  we prefer NOT to take chat outside these rooms, simply for the sake of 'best support' and so others can learn :)
[01:18] <bulmer> el
[01:18] <seanj> ikonia: thought i had it all figured out lol
[01:18] <ikonia> he's had  the message in channel about 10 times
[01:18] <kaoz> ok so i have gcc 3.4 and 40 installed... however to compile another prog i had to make a link to gcc 3.4
[01:18] <Scrocko> hehe, "go to a russian channel"
[01:18] <BackPacker> archie: fdisk -l (that's a lower-case L)
[01:18] <kaoz> should i redo that link to 4.0?
[01:19] <mag_> adaptr: /clear
[01:19] <ewook> Scrocko, what's the funny part? =)
[01:19] <archie> its do nothing
[01:19] <SilentDis> Scrocko, exactly what I said, but I prefer the confusing long explinations *giggle*
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <Scrocko> both worked..
[01:19] <BackPacker> archie: try it as root: sudo fdisk -l
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <archie> ok ok sorry i forgot bout root again
[01:19] <SilentDis> !ru | simka READ THIS
[01:19] <ubotu> simka READ THIS:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:20] <Simka> !ru
[01:20] <mnoir> SilentDis: i thik she can't
[01:20] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:20] <Scrocko> ewook: ok, I didn't see she(?) was russian... just thought you tried to insult her :)
[01:20] <SilentDis> Simka, language?
[01:20] <superkirbyartist>  How can I get the Nexxtech USB to Ethernet cable to work?
[01:20] <Simka> SilentDis RUSSIAN
[01:20] <mnoir> SilentDis: i suspect she may have a locale problem
[01:21] <ewook> Scrocko, her? well, no. someone said he/she was a while ago :) how many different layouts is there for russian anyway?
[01:21] <godtvisken> What is a good program to remind me of things? Like the typing break, but more powerful
[01:21] <mnoir> SilentDis: and cannot see the cyrillic char
[01:21] <SilentDis> Simka, go to #ubuntu-ru
[01:21] <ewook> perhaps that's the reason for the person to return all the time
[01:21] <SilentDis> mnior ahhhh
[01:21] <archie> backPacker how to get more info i see only blocks
[01:21] <BackPacker> superkirbyartist: If you're trying to connect to a USB socket on a cable modem, it would be much better to get a CAT-5 crossover cable
[01:21] <BackPacker> archie: what do you mean 'blocks'?
[01:21] <mnoir> SilentDis: just a guess from the conversation - but may be a troll :)
[01:21] <archie> i mean sectors
[01:22] <Slart> godtvisken: there's something installed by default in ubuntu.. can't remember the name though
[01:22] <superkirbyartist> BackPacker: I am trying to connect my laptop (USB port) to the modem/router.
[01:22] <MooUK> godtvisken: Do you mean like some sort of calendar/todo program?
[01:22] <BackPacker> archie: what does it say immediately under 'Device'?
[01:22] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, everytime i hit the paste button on that website my computer freezes
[01:22] <archie> i need detail names size etc
[01:22] <SilentDis> godtvisken, the calendar app in evolution ties itself into the desktop well, and will send notifications even if it's not running :)
[01:22] <Wakeskater> happened 3 times in a row
[01:22] <riotkittie> why is cat 5 better than usb ?
[01:22] <kaoz> ok i had to remove GCC symlink and make a new one for gcc-4.0
[01:22] <archie> /dev/hdc1
[01:22] <kaoz> it was pointed at 3.4
[01:22] <BackPacker> superkirbyartist: Oh, OK. I don't think that will work, but maybe someone else knows different
[01:22] <crimsun> kaoz: don't do that manually
[01:22] <kaoz> i am the one who created the symlink
[01:22] <crimsun> kaoz: reinstalling gcc, gcc-4.0, and g++-4.0 will do that for you.
[01:22] <kaoz> initially i mean
[01:23] <BackPacker> riotkittie: I used to get lots of drop-outs when using
[01:23] <kaoz> oh hehe
[01:23] <kaoz> oh well its done now
[01:23] <BackPacker> riotkittie: ethernet to USB
[01:23] <Scrocko> ewook: well, now I'm aware HE is russian... but admit it's a good insult... "don't spam, go to a russian server" :)
[01:23] <kaoz> all i did was remove the symlink and make a new one
[01:23] <godtvisken> MooUK: yes
[01:23] <riotkittie> i have my laptop connected to the modem via crossover. the desktop's connected to the modem via usb.  i havent noticed any differenre
[01:23] <riotkittie> or difference, either
[01:23] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Is there anywhere else you can paste it?
[01:23] <ewook> Scrocko, perhaps a bit ;) but patience for someone that repeatedly spammed doesn't go on my good side all the time :)
[01:24] <jakob> where are programs being run from if you type their name in the console?
[01:24] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Do you have a website you could put it on?
[01:24] <riotkittie> then again, the desktop is my husband's XP box of horror. i try to steer clear when i can :P
[01:24] <ewook> Scrocko, and especially when he's on a different locale :)
[01:24] <Wakeskater> yeah ill figure something out
[01:24] <kitche> riotkittie: some modem can't work that way anyways mine can't I can't use usb and ethernet together
[01:24] <BackPacker> jakob: What do you mean, "where are they being run from"?
[01:24] <Scrocko> yeah, a bit annoying perhaps..
[01:24] <ewook> jakob, from the console :)
[01:24] <riotkittie> kitche: i was surprised to find out that it could actually be done
[01:25] <kaoz> does anyone know how to install fltk?
[01:25] <BackPacker> jakob: Do you mean "In which directory is the executable for the command I'm running"?
[01:25] <ewook> kaoz: tried sudo apt-get install fltk ?
[01:25] <jakob> ewook, backpacker, I have three lirc executables. When I write lirc, which of the file is it running?
[01:25] <ewook> oh
[01:25] <kaoz> says cant find package
[01:25] <BackPacker> jakob: Enter 'which lirc' in a console to find out
[01:25] <ewook> *points to BackPacker * =)
[01:25] <jakob> backpacker, thanks :D
[01:25] <ikonia> Simka: don't pm please
[01:26] <BackPacker> jakob: You're welcome
[01:26] <Ben^> Hey, I am having a problem getting my Edgy install to work. There is a well known problem with ATI Radeon X1600 cards not working on initial install, you have to install a specific driver, which is fine. I have installed from an Edgy Alternate cd, and now I need to boot up and get into the console to do some driver configuring. The problem is I cannot access any virtual consoles using CTRL-ALT-F1 to F5, although X.org is loaded into F6 (w
[01:26] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/8I8J8i97.html
[01:26] <Alex> Is there a lunix command to flush out your dns cache?
[01:26] <archie> sorry but is there normal disk tool app like in windows acronis for linux ?
[01:26] <Scrocko> ok, now I'll be off for a while... try to update to 6.10...
[01:26] <BackPacker> ewook: Why?
[01:26] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Hold on while I have a look...
[01:26] <ewook> BackPacker, you had the answer for jakob :)
[01:26] <ikonia> alex no - dns isn't stored on your PC - its on a server
[01:26] <Alex> ikonia: Isn't there a cache kept?
[01:26] <ikonia> its the server that caches it
[01:26] <BackPacker> ewook: Oh, I see... :-)
[01:26] <Ben^> can you tell edgy to boot into single user mode, similar to booting knoppix with "knoppix 2" for runlevel 2 ?
[01:26] <seanj> unless you're running a DNS server yourself..
[01:27] <Alex> ikonia: Ah - righto! :0
[01:27] <ikonia> seanj: then its still a dns server
[01:27] <Wakeskater> BackPacker,  Ok thanks
[01:27] <seanj> ikonia: that's true
[01:27] <ikonia> ;)
[01:27] <seanj> I need to keep my mouth shut lol
[01:27] <kitche> Ben^: yes it's called rescue mode
[01:27] <ikonia> ha ha, no -your right
[01:27] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: As I thought, it doesn't give any clues...
[01:27] <SilentDis> Alex, I don't think linux caches DNS the same way windows does, if that answers your question
[01:27] <seanj> thanks :)
[01:27] <jakob> backpacker is there a way to monitor which modules gets loaded when I run a make install?
[01:27] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, is there anywhere else i can look
[01:27] <Ben^> kitchie do you have to use the CD for that ? or is it a boot option on the hard disk install ?
[01:28] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: I can see the reboot at 19:19:16 and the startup entries from 19:21:03, but there's no clue what's causing the freeze
[01:28] <SilentDis> jakob, you know... I JUST saw something that'll monitor install proggies, and log file changes.... give me a moment to poke around.
[01:28] <BackPacker> jakob: No idea, sorry.
[01:28] <ikonia> jakob: no modules get loaded if you do a make install
[01:28] <ikonia> make install installs software
[01:28] <ikonia> doesn't load modules
[01:28] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You could try ~/.xsession-errrors
[01:28] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, What can i do?
[01:28] <Wakeskater> ok
[01:28] <kitche> Ben^: it's part of the hard drive install
[01:28] <Ben^> kitchie thanks
[01:28] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me why VMWare will not recognize my CD or CDRom ?
[01:28] <jakob> ikonia, what should I look for then? Whenever I restart I have to do a make install of lirc in order to get it working again.
[01:29] <Ben^> kitchie its wierd tho, I've never known virtual consoles to not work. :/
[01:29] <ikonia> jakob: why did you install it from source ?
[01:29] <Simka> I you explain if you will say me its ICQ
[01:29] <kitche> Ben^: you just have to get to the grub menu and I don't know the key since I don't use splash screens with grub
[01:29] <BackPacker> ikonia: it's remotely possible that a 'make install' could run a modprobe command, but it's unlikely
[01:29] <jakob> ikonia, I followed the "how to" on the ubuntu forum.
[01:29] <ikonia> BackPacker: VERY unlikley
[01:30] <BackPacker> ikonia: unless he was installing a module from source. Extreeeeeeemely unlikely
[01:30] <ikonia> I think we can assume from his question - he's not doing that
[01:30] <Ben^> kitchie yeah I can get to grub no problem. But I have no idea how to fix the vconsole problem once I get there. I can install graphics drivers to get X working, but virtual consoles use standard text modes on any video card - they should just *work*
[01:30] <SilentDis> time for me to WoW for a bit.  take care all :)
[01:30] <Simka> !ru>Simka
[01:30] <ikonia> jakob: what makes you think its a module loading problem
[01:30] <toM|vendettA> hi, I downloaded a movie and I need help figuring out what codec it needs?
[01:30] <SilentDis> !codec | toM|vendettA
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <SilentDis> !avi | toM|vendettA
[01:31] <ubotu> toM|vendettA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <jakob> ikonia, I'm a newbie, so it was just a wild shot. I just can't figure out what it is that makes lirc work after each make install.
[01:31] <ikonia> what happens when you start lirc
[01:31] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, how do i type that command in?
[01:31] <tommason> I am unable to edit my apache.conf file or anything in the /etc directory.. I have tried  chmoding it to 777 and I still can't access it..
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: You know about the LIRC daemon, right?
[01:32] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Which command? To check ~/.xsession-errors?
[01:32] <ikonia> tommason: never chmod it to 777
[01:32] <ikonia> tommason: what command are you doing to edit the file
[01:32] <jakob> groggy, sorry no.
[01:32] <jrib> tommason: don't chmod things outside of HOME unless you understand what you are doing, many users have been forced to reinstall as a result.  Use sudo to edit your file
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: You need to start lircd in the background.
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: What kind of remote control are you using?
[01:32] <troy_s> anyone have information regarding eSATA here?  as in how to make it automount under Ubuntu?
[01:32] <tommason> sudo.. I was trying to use Qunta
[01:32] <jrib> !sudo | tommason
[01:32] <ubotu> tommason: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:32] <ewook> Anyone got a readable (or more understandable) site regarding chmod ?
[01:33] <jakob> groggy a realmagic remote control
[01:33] <Stormx2> tommason: gksudo gedit /path/to/apache.conf
[01:33] <ewook> !chmod
[01:33] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:33] <troy_s> eSATA - anyone?
[01:33] <juan_> does anyone know how to install a usb wireless mouse?
[01:33] <groggy> jakob: Have you configured LIRC to find it?
[01:33] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You still there?
[01:33] <Tucky> is h3xis back yet??
[01:33] <jrib> ewook: more understandable when compared to what?
[01:33] <kitche> troy_s: what is eSATA?
[01:33] <troy_s> juan_ should be plug and pray
[01:33] <troy_s> erk.
[01:33] <ikonia> groggy: he said he read the ubuntu how to - it should all be done
[01:33] <Wakeskater> Yes
[01:34] <Wakeskater> yes that command
[01:34] <groggy> ikonia: OK, assuming that the device is recognized.
[01:34] <juan_> pray.....ain't working
[01:34] <ewook> jrib, regular documentation :)
[01:34] <ikonia> I'm still waiting for him to tell me the error
[01:34] <troy_s> eSATA is external sata -- if you have an external drive with sata support, it offers eSATA output on it, which you plug into an eSATA port (adapted from SATA)
[01:34] <troy_s> fastest throughput.
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: Actually, I'm a little confused.  I don't have a 'lirc' executable on my machine.
[01:34] <jrib> ewook: do you include the ubuntu wiki in "regular documentation"?
[01:34] <troy_s> juan_ chip / make / model / vendor?
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: ... and certainly not three.
[01:34] <jakob> ikonia, groggy, if I run lircd after a reboot the log returns this "readlink() failed for "/dev/lirc" "no such file or directory". But if I run a make install first it works perfectly.
[01:34] <Tucky> h3xis you their newere?
[01:34] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: OK. Open a console and enter 'less ~/.xsession-errors' (without the quotes). Page down to near the end and look for anything drastic. Press Q to quit
[01:34] <ewook> jrib, no, I meant man chmod :) !chmod did the trick :)
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: Ah.
[01:35] <ikonia> jakob: the device isn't present as you've not set a udev device to be created at boot time
[01:35] <jrib> ewook: ah ok
[01:35] <ewook> jrib, I tend to easily forget about ubuntu's acctually great way of describing things ;)
[01:35] <juan_> wireless optival mouse-rechargable by ONE
[01:35] <kitche> troy_s: ok  I just never heard the term eSATA before that's why I asked I always heard them called external sata
[01:35] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, says command not found
[01:35] <kitche> troy_s: what's your problem exactly?
[01:35] <troy_s> well eSATA is a different port
[01:35] <ikonia> kitche: I thought that was what esata was
[01:35] <Wakeskater> nm that
[01:35] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: you haven't got the 'less' command?
[01:35] <ikonia> external sata
[01:36] <jakob> ikonia, groggy, all the "how to's" mention a module which should be loaded on boot, but I don't have the module.
[01:36] <troy_s> basically you convert a sata cable to eSATA
[01:36] <kaoz> does anyone here have  a nostromo gamepad? onlinux?
[01:36] <ikonia> jakob: is it talking about a kernel or lirc module ?
[01:36] <troy_s> but the problem is that when you insert into the eSATA port, the drive is basically invisible... even via mount.
[01:36] <groggy> jakob: Clearly you have something if you can get it to run at all.
[01:36] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You should be able to install it with apt-get install less
[01:36] <Malagmyr> How can I enable users to connect with VNC to the login screen? It's kind of silly to have to walk over to the actual computer, log on, enable vnc, walk back and use it..
[01:37] <jakob> groggy, I can easily get it to run, it just annoys me I have to do a make install every time I've rebooted.
[01:37] <rogue780> how do I make cron jobs run as root?
[01:37] <mnoir> scary - i almost understand it
[01:37] <troy_s> Malachi: why not just use ssh -X or -Y?
[01:37] <jakob> ikonia, "it"?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: Anyway, I haven't had LIRC running on Ubuntu, so maybe there's soemthing special there.
[01:37] <jrib> ewook: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html is a friendly one too
[01:37] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:37] <Malagmyr> rogue780: edit the crontab as root?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: I don't have any problems on Debian, though.
[01:37] <troy_s> eSATA knowledge -- anyone?
[01:37] <ikonia> do the docs refer to a kernel module or a lirc module loading
[01:37] <mnoir> rogue780: either add to root's crontab or use the crontabes in /etc
 !avi | toM|vendettA <-- Hi, I have the proper codec installed and all, but I want to play the movie on a windows computer, and I need to figure out what codec it requires
[01:37] <kitche> troy_s: I m not sure if Linux supports external sata yet
[01:37] <Eulogy> can anyone running the latest ubuntu run the command 'ld --verbose' and put the output on pastebin.ca ?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: Is it running right now?
[01:37] <ewook> jrib, I salute you, thank you :)
[01:37] <jakob> groggy no. Want me to run a make install?
[01:37] <rogue780> mnoir, Malagmyr, crontab? I've just been using kcron...
[01:38] <mnoir> rogue780: the ctontabs in /etc are prolly a better choice
[01:38] <Jowi> Malagmyr, I think you need to use x11vnc and use the -auth option to point to the auth file for gdm. it's a bit messy using vnc for that. another (and probably better) option is to use freenx
[01:38] <groggy> jakob: No, don't.
[01:38] <Jowi> !freenx
[01:38] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:38] <troy_s> kitche:  that rather is silly considering it is basically SATA -- the drive works fine when plugged directly into the SATA port, but you put the eSATA adapter on and it doesn't see it after boot.
[01:38] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:38] <carlos> hi all, does anybody else get randomly disconnected when using the terminal server client from ubuntu to windows
[01:38] <groggy> jakob: Try this:
[01:38] <groggy> As root,
[01:38] <juan_> well, another question, how do i setup wifi
[01:38] <gninommus> hello!
[01:38] <xon_xoff> Hello, could someone please help me with a shell command
[01:38] <groggy> mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0
[01:39] <jrib> !ask | xon_xoff
[01:39] <ubotu> xon_xoff: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:39] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, my computer froze when i typed that command
[01:39] <groggy> jakob: Then try rynning lircd again.
[01:39] <xon_xoff> OKay
[01:39] <Wakeskat> is there anywayt o pull up a log of that?
[01:39] <xon_xoff> I want to copy a bunch of files in a directory over another bunch of files in another directory
[01:39] <gninommus> does anyone know of a tutorial for getting tv out working in ubuntu with a radeon 9600xt?
[01:39] <xon_xoff> and I don't want to be prompted if I want to overwrite each one
[01:39] <PurpleMunk> w00t...  got my network issues resolved :)
[01:40] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: well, again there might be something in /var/log/messages... You've really got problems with that box, haven't you? I can see you reinstalling soon...
[01:40] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:40] <Amadeo> I got my Nvidia drivers installed, but the correct resolutions and refresh rates don't show up for me
[01:40] <Malachi> troy_s: Huh?
[01:40] <jrib> xon_xoff: cp won't prompt you unless you ask it to
[01:40] <Wakeskat> i think its a problem with my nvidia drive. beryl, or my wifi BackPacker
[01:40] <Wakeskat> *driver
[01:40] <xon_xoff> oh wait never mind
[01:40] <di||itante> xon_xoff, "rm -f" the files to remove if they are different names than the source files
[01:40] <Jowi> xon_xoff, the -i option will prompt
[01:41] <PurpleMunk> anyone else ever have an issue with ubuntu reporting the MAC address of an ethernet adapter as FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF?
[01:41] <xon_xoff> It turns out if you have a * after what you want to copy it prompts you
[01:41] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Have you tried turning beryl off? (if that's possible)
[01:41] <xon_xoff> thanks guys
[01:41] <jakob> groggy I still get the same, except this gets added to the log "pixelview_init(): no such device or address"
[01:41] <Wakeskat> what was that command again?
[01:41] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: maybe the last one ever made?? :))
[01:41] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: you mean the 'less' command? 'less /var/log/messages' or 'less ~/.xsession-errors'
[01:41] <groggy> jakob: OK, looks like we have the wrong major number.
[01:42] <Wakeskat> 2nd one
[01:42] <carlos> does anybody have disconnect problems with terminal server client (RDP)
[01:42] <groggy> Listen to what ikonia said.
[01:42] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: but you said you didn't have the 'less' command installed
[01:42] <PurpleMunk> yeh, lol..   don't ask me why, but that's what ubuntu was doing with my ethernet card that is integrated on my mobo..  had to install an external pci ethernet card in order to access the network...
[01:42] <Wakeskat> i do it was a mistake
[01:42] <Wakeskat> it froze the compute when i typed that though
[01:42] <cappicard> hmm... i'm getting no sound from flash in firefox. Is there any changes I need to make? Im running edgy
[01:42] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: oh well, one less mistake  :-)
[01:42] <ewook> carlos, what program are you running it with?
[01:42] <juan_> wifi on a thinkpad, anyone?
[01:42] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: did you research whether there is a driver issue?
[01:42] <Wakeskat> ok i typed it again and didnt freeze
[01:42] <jrib> xon_xoff: make sure it isn't aliased to  cp -i  , that's not what happens here
[01:43] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: that'd be my guess
[01:43] <Wakeskat> ill copy it to that site BackPacker
[01:43] <PurpleMunk> and also, I am now having a problem with ubuntu not booting when I have usb devices plugged into my PC.   it doesn't matter which device (mouse, external cd recorder, printer, etc)..  it happens every time..
[01:43] <kitche> troy_s: ok I read that the neer kernel has better support for eSATA the article was written 12-21-2006
[01:43] <BackPacker> juan_: you're asking a very big question. Depends on which card you've got, whether a driver is available,  whether you want Managed or Ad-hoc mode...
[01:43] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: OK
[01:43] <PurpleMunk> nah, I haven't looked into it too much at this point..  I'm up and running on the network, thas all I care about at this point.
[01:43] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/nwRo9297.html
[01:44] <red_> im banging my head against the wall trying to configure samba. please help im ready to trow my pcs out the window
[01:44] <jakob> ikonia, sorry I didn't see your last reply, let me see.
[01:44] <troy_s> kitche wow kitche good googling.
[01:44] <jrib> !samba | red_
[01:44] <ubotu> red_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:44] <eyalw> hey!
[01:44] <troy_s> kitche: when you say neer you mean newer not some dutch thing right?
[01:44] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Is that all of it? Just 22 lines?
[01:44] <juan_> backpacker,  what do i have to look for?
[01:44] <tommason> so is it better to use sudo -i then gksudo gedit /path/to/whatever
[01:44] <kitche> troy_s: yes newer so I would actually say update your kernel then it should work
[01:45] <red_> i can mount files but cant do anything with the files. asks for a user name and pass but i cant figure out how to set it up
[01:45] <PurpleMunk> i'll be going wireless here shortly if everything works out with the broadcom driver firmware rip ..
[01:45] <Eulogy> can anyone running the latest ubuntu run the command 'ld --verbose' and put the output on pastebin.ca ?
[01:45] <BackPacker> juan_: If you said which WiFi card you've got and how you want to set it up, maybe someone can help you
[01:45] <eyalw> I tried $ sudo apt-get install thunderbird , and got: Package thunderbird is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:45] <Wakeskat> BackPacker,  i cant get it to go up anymore
[01:45] <eyalw> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:45] <Wakeskat> so for now yes
[01:45] <eyalw> is only available from another source
[01:45] <ikonia> red_: the username/password is meant for a user on the place your mounting from
[01:45] <jrib> !info thunderbird
[01:45] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: What you posted shows that the machine went down, but doesn't give any indication as to why
[01:45] <ikonia> eg: from server a mount /tmp from server b - the username and password is an account from server b
[01:45] <di||itante> red_,  you need to add a sambuser and sambapasswd for that user on the xserver side
[01:45] <juan_> ok
[01:45] <enyc> ikonia: eyalw I think the package is 'mozilla-thunderbuird'
[01:45] <jakob> ikonia, this is what the how to says "echo "alias char-major-61-* lirc_gpio" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/lirc"
[01:46] <Jowi> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB
[01:46] <eyalw> !info thunderbird
[01:46] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in any distro I know
[01:46] <eyalw> ?
[01:46] <red_> how do i do that??
[01:46] <ikonia> jakob: ok
[01:46] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, how do i scroll up in the terminal. page up wont work and theres nothing to slide
[01:46] <di||itante> red_, man smbpasswd
[01:46] <eyalw> so how can i download it?
[01:46] <BackPacker> juan_: For example, I've got a Belkin PCMCIA card in my Thinkpad R40 and Ubuntu just recognised it
[01:46] <red_> look for mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <ikonia> red_: told you 2 times - smbpassword
[01:46] <red_> wont work
[01:46] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: hold down the shift key and use the up/down arrows and PageUP, PageDn
[01:46] <gdb> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <eyalw> pk
[01:46] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB
[01:46] <eyalw> ok
[01:46] <gdb> ;-)
[01:47] <Amadeo> How can I fix the resolutions/refresh rates in Gnome? I'm stuck at 75Hz without all of my resolutions showing
[01:47] <ikonia> red_: what authentication database have you setup to use
[01:47] <toM|vendettA> Eulogy: http://rafb.net/p/tD1MT268.html
[01:47] <jrib> eyalw: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird   that's what it is called (as someone above said)
[01:47] <BackPacker> juan_: And I just set up the card using the Networking dialog on the System menu
[01:47] <Wakeskat> then i guess that is it BackPacker
[01:47] <red_> ikonia i know you dig this is my outputred@red-desktop:~$ smbpasswd
[01:47] <red_> Old SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> New SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> Retype new SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> Could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[01:47] <eyalw> thanks!
[01:47] <red_> Failed to change password for red
[01:47] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Unless anyone else has any ideas...
[01:47] <red_> red@red-desktop:~$
[01:47] <jrib> !paste | red_
[01:47] <ubotu> red_: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[01:47] <troy_s> kitche: thanks for the tip.  i'll give it a try.
[01:47] <juan_> let me look for the wifi card
[01:47] <Eulogy> toM|vendettA: thank you very much :)
[01:47] <di||itante> red_,  do is as root
[01:48] <gninommus> how do i access fglrx-control?
[01:48] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Whatever is causing it isn't putting any helpful messages anywhere
[01:48] <carlos> who's using a audigy 2 zs notebook? my mic port is not working
[01:48] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/TxQ2dy77.html
[01:48] <red_> duh- that was obvious!
[01:49] <ikonia> red_: do you have an account on the server the shared drive is on ?
[01:49] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Again, line 12 shows that the machine went down, but again there's no indication as to why
[01:49] <Wakeskat> It has some lines after that about beryl
[01:49] <red_> ikonia: this is gonna sound stupid but an account?
[01:50] <ikonia> yes, a username
[01:50] <ikonia> and password
[01:50] <ikonia> a login account
[01:50] <red_> ikonia: no i don't how do i set that up
[01:50] <ikonia> then thats why its not working
[01:50] <ikonia> the account needs to be on the server - not th eclient
[01:50] <ikonia> the client
[01:51] <di||itante> ikonia, samba server doen not require a unix user be setup on the server
[01:51] <ikonia> di||itante: I know
[01:51] <ikonia> he's not running a samba server
[01:51] <ikonia> he's trying to mount from a remote server
[01:52] <n2diy> BackPacker: have you looked at his kernel log?
[01:52] <Jowi> red_, sudo smbpasswd -a username
[01:52] <di||itante> ikonia, sorry, he been talking samba for a while
[01:53] <kaoz> anyone here have a nostromo n52 gamepad?
[01:53] <ikonia> di||itante: don't I know it, thats why I've decided to try to sort it
[01:53] <BackPacker> n2diy: didn't think of that
[01:53] <kaoz> workin with ubuntu?
[01:53] <lifepositive> how can I install python on ubuntu please?
[01:53] <jrib> lifepositive: it is installed by default
[01:53] <n2diy> BackPacker: a million eyes.
[01:53] <jakob> groggy, it hit me that it's now able to find the /dev/lirc it's just not able to open it. Is there something I can do in that case?
[01:53] <red_> Jowi: Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[01:53] <red_> Failed to modify password entry for user username
[01:54] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Try checking out /var/log/kernel/errors using the less command
[01:54] <BackPacker> n2diy: Thanks!
[01:54] <n2diy> BackPacker: nada
[01:54] <user01> how do you get multiple language keyboards mapped correctly?
[01:54] <Jowi> red_, the user must 1. exist on the linux machine and 2. be added with smbpasswd -a command
[01:54] <Jowi> red_, need some sleep. almost 2am here. I wish you luck :)
[01:55] <Wakeskat> says no such file or directory
[01:55] <red_> Jowi: no problem thanks for you help i tired of this too.
[01:55] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Forgot to say, you need to use sudo: sudo less /var/log/kernel/errors
[01:55] <Wakeskat> I did that
[01:56] <Wakeskat> not there
[01:56] <juan_> intel  PRO/wireless LAN 2100 3b mini pci
[01:56] <arrenlex> How would I do echo "foo" >> /var/bar with sudo?
[01:56] <jrib> arrenlex: sudo -i   first, then   echo "foo" >> /var/bar
[01:56] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: you don't have a /var/log/kernel/errors file?
[01:56] <lifepositive> jrib: how do I run python? :P
[01:56] <crimsun> arrenlex: echo foo |sudo tee -a /var/bar
[01:56] <arrenlex> jrib: Any ways without new shells?
[01:57] <Wakeskat> i typed it in
[01:57] <Wakeskat> let me look manually
[01:57] <kuzmaster> hello all
[01:57] <arrenlex> crimsun: I'll try, thanks.
[01:57] <user01> juan i have that same card :)
[01:57] <jrib> arrenlex: echo "foo" | sudo tee -a /var/bar  I think
[01:57] <juan_> ok
[01:57] <juan_> how do i configure that card?
[01:57] <n2diy> BackPacker: Wakeskat, here on Dapper it looks like it should be /var/log/kern.log
[01:57] <kuzmaster> so, im trying to install RaConfig, using these intructions
[01:57] <kuzmaster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#Raconfig
[01:57] <jrib> lifepositive: you can run the interpreter by typing 'python' in a shell.  What are you trying to do with python?
[01:58] <user01> juan: i just got it working are you on a t40?
[01:58] <arrenlex> crimsun, jrib: that works, thanks!
[01:58] <jrib> oh crimsun said it first :)
[01:58] <capixaba> can someone help me?
[01:58] <kuzmaster> but when i get up to the make steps, i dont think it works.... here what i did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700/
[01:58] <Wakeskat> I dont have a Kernel folder in var/log/
[01:58] <i|D> offline - good night
[01:58] <capixaba> I got a problem
[01:58] <Wakeskat> im using 6.10
[01:58] <BackPacker> n2diy: Might have known it. That's what I get for running Mandriva 2007 while on #ubuntu...
[01:58] <user01> juan: im using edgy and it detected it right away
[01:58] <kuzmaster> now, is that supposed to happen?
[01:58] <Wakeskat> i have a kern.log
[01:58] <capixaba> I have a laptop HP zv6000 with ubuntu and I would like to run my wireless
[01:59] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: that's the one. But I have to say right now, I'm not sure I'd know what to look for
[01:59] <n2diy> BackPacker: ahhh. :)
[01:59] <capixaba> but is broadcom... can someone help please?
[01:59] <kitche> capixaba: which broadcom chipset?
[01:59] <BackPacker> n2diy: And it's what I get for hanging out in #mandriva and moonlighting in here...  :-)
[02:00] <juan_> it doesnt say, i just got it from a friend
[02:00] <lifepositive> jrib: learning about it
[02:00] <capixaba> kitche: broadcom BCM4318
[02:00] <capixaba> I am trying to 6 months
[02:00] <Gumby> can anyone tell me where network manager stores its encrypted network keys
[02:00] <capixaba> and I coudn't do nothing
[02:00] <jrib> lifepositive: you might like using  ipython  to play in
[02:00] <n2diy> BackPacker: Now I'll have to remember to ask my helper what they are running!
[02:00] <Wakeskat> what was that site that you can paste something to BackPacker? im gonna see if i can freeze it again
[02:00] <capixaba> it's very hard man....
[02:00] <user01> juan_: did you put in your wireless setting already?  system admin networking?
[02:00] <juan_> it just says ibm thinkpad
[02:00] <BackPacker> !paste | Wakeskat
[02:00] <ubotu> Wakeskat: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:01] <capixaba> kitche: can u help me?
[02:01] <kitche> capixaba: open up a terminal and type sudo ndiswrapper -l and see what it says
[02:01] <juan_> no i havent, i've never worked wireless, firts time
[02:01] <capixaba> kitche: ok... give me a second
[02:01] <lifepositive> jrib: ipython?
[02:01] <lifepositive> jrib: bash: ipython: command not found
[02:02] <jrib> lifepositive: you have to install that one
[02:02] <capixaba> kitche: hey man... this information: roanbrasil@roanbrasil-laptop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -l
[02:02] <capixaba> No drivers installed
[02:02] <lifepositive> jrib: ok brb
[02:02] <user01> juan_: go to command screen and type in lspci
[02:02] <user01> juan_: if you see that card it is there and ready
[02:02] <kuzmaster> so any way. i was using make to install RaConfig, and i got up to the part where i do "make" but, i dont think it worked, it came up with heaps of stuff..... here what happend http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700/
[02:03] <juan_> lets see
[02:03] <user01> juan_: then make sure that your wireless router is B
[02:03] <kitche> capixaba: ok you need to install the drivers then you don't happen to have the driver install cd around do you?
[02:03] <juan_> ok
[02:03] <juan_> yes, here it is in the last line
[02:03] <user01> juan_: and ask whoever set up the wireless router about any security settings
[02:03] <Stormx2> kuzmaster: Looks fine to me.
[02:04] <capixaba> kitche: I tried to emule the windows driver... but I can't ... I dont understand the problem... do u have a solution?
[02:04] <capixaba> some solution?
[02:04] <jakob> what is the point of the 0byte files in the dev library?
[02:04] <kuzmaster> Stormx2: so thats perfectlly fine/normal?
[02:04] <kitche> capixaba: well you have to extract the bcml5.inf file and the .sy file from the .exe
[02:04] <juan_> what os the wirless router to 8?
[02:04] <Malagmyr> Where can I get an explanation on the difference between the bigiron, generic and server kernels?
[02:04] <Stormx2> kuzmaster: I'd assume so. Sure you don't need to ./configure first anyway?
[02:04] <puff> Every now and then I get this weird thing where gnome appears  to freeze up on me.  I'm running gnome metacity under ubuntu dapper. The app  that's currently on top works fine (at the moment, emacs) but I can't alt-tab and I can't get the gnome toolbar dropdowns to work.  I'm about to ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, but I'm looking for a) less drastic remedies and b) clues as to why this is happening and how to prevent it.
[02:04] <capixaba> kitche: I think that I did it.
[02:04] <|Sora|> there is no these for ubuntu that can make window titles transparent, right?
[02:05] <|Sora|> these = themes
[02:05] <MagicFab_> hi - where can I d/l Edgy DVD ISOs ? Can't seem to find them
[02:05] <kuzmaster> Stormx2: ummmm...i have no idea, i am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#Raconfig
[02:05] <nvez> I'm looking to migrate to Ubuntu (once again!) -- However, I only have 15 GB of free space on my ONLY hard (all NTFS), is it possible to convert 10 GB of the free NTFS space to a linux FS & then move over my files and extend the parition? If you understand what I'm trying to stay? :p
[02:05] <Stormx2> |Sora|: You'd need compiz, beryl or xgl
[02:05] <nvez> -t
[02:05] <capixaba> kitche: first... What must I do first?
[02:05] <Stormx2> well no
[02:05] <kitche> capixaba: get the .exe file
[02:05] <user01> juan_: go to network under system and administration
[02:05] <Stormx2> just compiz i think... bleh
[02:05] <MagicFab_> nvez, yes, but risky
[02:06] <MagicFab_> nvez you have backups, eh :) ?
[02:06] <capixaba> kitche: yeah... I got it...
[02:06] <Stormx2> puff: No idea... You can't run commands can you? Try killall gnome-panel
[02:06] <capixaba> kitche: and now?
[02:06] <dm> Anyone know of a way to powersave an NVIDIA card?
[02:06] <user01> juan_: you should see a wireless device
[02:06] <juan_> yes, i see it
[02:06] <kitche> capixaba: then do unzip name.exe replace the name with the name of the .exe file
[02:06] <nvez> MagicFab_: I know it is, but with only an extra 80GB external and 40 empty on it..
[02:06] <|Sora|> Stormx2, is that compiz in repository?
[02:06] <nvez> Oops, sorry, wrong highlight, I meant that for MagicFab_
[02:06] <rogue780> anyone know why I'm getting a test.c:1:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory error?
[02:06] <Stormx2> !compiz
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:06] <user01> juan_: and then you click on configure and enter your settings
[02:06] <n2diy> BackPacker: Wakeskat, ?
[02:06] <juan_> it says active
[02:06] <dvheumen> could someone give me a hand. I've been having unexplained shutdowns of Ubuntu Dapper for a few months now, very sporadic, but it happened twice in a few hours now (the last just minutes ago). How can I see if Ubuntu has shut down properly or if it was a sudden power loss?
[02:07] <BackPacker> n2diy: I'm here, but Wakeskat's box went down 4 minutes ago.
[02:07] <Stormx2> |Sora|: You may be more interested in beryl tho, thats more supported I think...
[02:07] <capixaba> kitche: yeah... I did ... and now?
[02:07] <MagicFab_> nvez, you can reduce your NTFS partition size to free those 10GB (after defrag'ing), then use LVM to install U on those 10GB, then extend the partition/ combine with other LVM modules.
[02:07] <|Sora|> ok
[02:07] <|Sora|> !beryl
[02:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:07] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have a zd1211 usb Wlan adopter .... i have downloaded a firmware for it ... which says copy files to /lib/firmware/zd1211 which i did ... but wat else i have to do i donno ... i still dont get it working ....
[02:07] <kitche> capixaba: ok you should have couple of folders now one of them should say Driver in the name
[02:07] <n2diy> BackPacker: Roger that, waiting to get a peek at his log.
[02:08] <|Sora|> Stormx2, only one is needed right?
[02:08] <capixaba> kitche: how can I do it?
[02:08] <user01> juan_: you put in the name of the network the ssid
[02:08] <BackPacker> n2diy: I guess his machine froze when he tried pastebinning it
[02:08] <Malagmyr> !bigiron
[02:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu's "bigiron" server kernel (linux-image-server-bigiron) is geared towards systems with more than 8 CPUs.
[02:08] <gop> !pacman
[02:08] <ubotu> pacman: Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth. In component universe, is optional. Version 10-16ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 140 kB
[02:08] <MagicFab_> nvez, read a bit about LVMs and if possible, practice by using a vrtual machine / emulator (like qemu)
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: I'm not too familiar with any of it
[02:08] <user01> juan_: and then the password if there is one
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: But I think beryl is the best way to go
[02:08] <kitche> dvheumen: if dapper doesn't do a e2fsck then it shutdown probably most likely
[02:08] <nvez> MagicFab_: Know of any newbie-friendly tutorials out there or I'll have to go through the hard way? :p
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: Just follow instructions.
[02:08] <|Sora|> ok
[02:08] <user01> juan_: and make sure the box next to the wireless card is checked to enable it
[02:09] <juan_> ok
[02:09] <dvheumen> kitche: well, I haven't got a monitor connected at the moment, so I missed the possible check, can I find this in some log?
[02:09] <Heed> So I just did a fresh install of Edgy and got the first batch of updates, now everything that's downloaded from a repository is moving at 5-10 KB/s instead of the normal 160-180; anyone have an idea of why? The rest of my downloads are working fine..
[02:09] <user01> juan_: i uncheck the other box for the ethernet one so there isnt any confusion
[02:09] <MagicFab_> nvez, how much time you willing to dedicate to this ?
[02:09] <puff> Stormx2: yeah, I'm logged in via a console window, so I can run commands. Kill gnome-panel?
[02:09] <nvez> MagicFab_: As much as it takes, I'm a patient guy I guess. :p
[02:10] <n2diy> BackPacker: That would not be good.
[02:10] <nvez> I do have a fair big lot of Linux experience but not in FS (mainly servers, etc)
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Heed: You may just have a slow mirror
[02:10] <kitche> dvheumen: you might
[02:10] <juan_> but what about if i use mi wifi at cafes where they offer this service but there is no way of knowig all this data?
[02:10] <capixaba> kitche: how?
[02:10] <MagicFab_> nvez: if you want to practice on qemu, you'll need a couple hours, plus then doing the install another 2-3.
[02:10] <BackPacker> n2diy: Very true. My bet is that he'll reinstall some time soon
[02:10] <n2diy> BackPacker: Reinstall!?