[12:54] <afief> is there a way to backup my data and flush it onto a new filesystem after the format?
[12:54] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:55] <apokryphos> afief: yes. Put the data on another partition
[12:55] <e-fonz> mwe: thanks found the starter!
[12:55] <apokryphos> needless to say, it totally depends on what FS you're talking about here
[12:56] <afief> apokryphos: I think i'll try Reiser3 or 4... not sure yet which
[12:56] <bob_4_a_day> e-fonz to answer your question yes several ways to find executables.  easiest might be type 'which <app.name> '   also   find /usr/ -name <app.name>    or even locate <app.name>  but locate uses a database that must be updated between the install and the locate   howto is 'sudo updatedb '
[12:56] <Nikusan> ubunt-new, in synaptic goto settings -> repositories -> settings and then tick "show disabled repositories". Then enable them
[12:56] <afief> will copying the operation system to another portatition and copying it back again work?:S
[12:56] <afief> (my experience with windows says no, but this isn't windows)
[12:57] <apokryphos> afief: I don't think it will, no.
[12:57] <twilight> afief, only ext2 to ext3 it's possible without format.
[12:57] <bob_4_a_day> afief sure it will work.
[12:57] <Draken> err afief
[12:57] <Draken> it will work with windows
[12:58] <e-fonz> bob_4_a_day: found the starter, put in on my desktop, works fine! Thanks guys!
[12:58] <afief> well, i have abandoned windows for good:)
[12:58] <Draken> and if it doesnt, i just pop windows cd in, go to repair console, type fixboot,fixmbr,bootcfg /scan
[12:58] <Draken> then it should work
[12:58] <Draken> but i got grub win32, easy edit it in windows :D
[12:59] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:59] <Saboo> Is anmyone able to help me?
[01:00] <afief> okay so i will have to format for a new filesystem... i'll leave that till Drapper is out
[01:00] <Saboo> anyone*
[01:00] <afief> Saboo: rule 1: ask question then see if anyone can help you
[01:00] <Saboo> I have..
[01:00] <Saboo> Morning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input
[01:00] <morphix> can you and how do u get ubuntu to scan for hardware changes?
[01:00] <dodgyville> I have one of my desktops displaying on my tv, but it is way to large for the screen. Do I need to restrict the resolution in xorg.conf, or is there a simplier way?
[01:01] <afief> maybe you should start the installer with noscsi?
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> afief ubuntu's installed ignores 'noscsi'  and  'nousb'  i haven't found any way to skip either of those.
[01:02] <athlon_> ubuntu or apt made some changes on grub's menu.lst and now I cant find the option to boot Windows on grub
[01:03] <athlon_> is there a configuration program that scans for OS-es that I have and change grub accordingly
[01:03] <afief> well, i'm a noob myself... but i tried:)
[01:03] <faboulouz_> hello
[01:03] <faboulouz_> in dapper gnome menu crash, why ?
[01:03] <visik7> athlon_: is quite simple to modify by yourself /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:03] <nicholas1520> hi =)
[01:04] <visik7> faboulouz_: 'couse it's a develop release ?
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> afief it was a logical approach, it just don't work on ubuntu....
[01:04] <faboulouz_> and now ?
[01:04] <athlon_> visik7, its weird sometimes. The first time I boot, I cant go to my ubuntu cos grub said it couldnt find root(0,5). I had to change it to root(1,5). So I changed menu.lst myself to make the change permanent.
[01:05] <afief> well, i guess someone else will have to help our new friend then
[01:05] <athlon_> the next time I boot, it said it couldnt find a partition at root(1,5)
[01:05] <athlon_> and I had to change it back to root(0,5)
[01:05] <beruic> Can anyone help me in #wine?
[01:05] <bob_4_a_day> cyphase yeah, hehhe i don't compile anything i write; it's all bash.
[01:05] <athlon_> so now I am just going to let ubuntu change menu.lst automatically and save myself the headache
[01:06] <morphix> is there a way to list all IRQ's?
[01:06] <cyphase> bob_4_a_day, python for me :D
[01:06] <Bobl> can ubuntu read ntfs partitions?
[01:07] <Seveas> yes
[01:07] <Seveas> and write too :)
[01:07] <Bobl> Seveas, not experimental?
[01:07] <Seveas> yes, but so far working for me
[01:07] <Bobl> Seveas, sounds good :)
[01:08] <Casanova> hi.. i have an issue with hdparm can some one help me?
[01:08] <Seveas> !tell Casanova about someone
[01:08] <Casanova> :-)
[01:08] <morphix> i have got inet6 addr
[01:08] <bob_4_a_day> Bobl it reads nativly but write access to ntfs is still alpha maybe bata
[01:08] <morphix> i want a normal inet addr
[01:08] <morphix> not v6
[01:08] <morphix> argh
[01:08] <Casanova> when i start vlc i get the error saying libgail.so and libatk-bridge.so are not found
[01:09] <Casanova> but they are available
[01:09] <mwe> Seveas: the ntfs write support, is it the standard experimental kernel support?
[01:09] <Casanova> sorry this is not with hdparm
[01:09] <Bobl> read is enough for me anyway
[01:09] <Bobl> for now
[01:09] <Seveas> mwe, dapper has a fuse module using libntfs, which does more than the standard kernel experimental support
[01:10] <bob_4_a_day> Bobl all i need is dd  :)
[01:10] <mwe> I see
[01:11] <beruic> Can anyone help me in #wine?????
[01:11] <globe> I have questions about configuring X for laptop, can someone help me?
[01:11] <Seveas> beruic, this is not #wine so probably no
[01:11] <Seveas> !tell globe about someone
[01:11] <Nikusan> beruic, try #winehq
[01:12] <bob_4_a_day> it works like this dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<disk_with_ntfs_on_it> count=1024   and then make a linux partition and go  :)
[01:13] <beruic> Nikusan: thx
[01:14] <globe> I just installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop. I cant start X because the config is wrong. In the forum somebody said to set VGA=771 , but I cant find where.
[01:15] <globe> I looked in the x config file and didnt see anything
[01:15] <Saboo> I've now unplugged everything out of the back of my PC except the mouse and keyboard, and it is now hanging on the line where it says PS/2 mouse...
[01:15] <bob_4_a_day> i really don't think i'll be leaving 'nome installed long enough to get sick of it.....    errr wrong too late.
[01:15] <hyakuhei> globe: whoever said that was just wrong
[01:16] <hyakuhei> globe: the VGA=771 reference would have been passed by grub at boot time to give a graphical boot, nothing to do with X
[01:16] <mwe> globe: vga= is usuallay a boot parameter
[01:16] <mwe> globe: and not related to X
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> vga=771 is not an sorg.conf arg it is a kernel arg line....
[01:16] <globe> okay. That is good to know.
[01:16] <hyakuhei> globe: what errors does X throw?
[01:16] <tristan> globe : what is your graphic card?
[01:17] <thegladiator> hwos the draper release doing ?
[01:17] <globe> hyakuhei: x says that it cant load the config file
[01:18] <bob_4_a_day> i use vga=788 here  hehhe
[01:18] <Pegasos989> How can I adjust the pthreads configuration to have higher max stack size
[01:18] <jose171181> hello, ubuntu users, could you please run two scripts for me?
[01:18] <globe> tristan: the graphics card is an intel 82852
[01:18] <mwe> thegladiator: I guess it's ok to install if you know how to fix your own problems
[01:19] <bob_4_a_day> globe maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[01:19] <jose171181> the only "requirement" is ffmpeg installed
[01:19] <hyakuhei> globe: this is bad practice in general, but try to run X as root
[01:19] <thegladiator> mwe, which one mwe ?
[01:19] <hyakuhei> globe: that will get round any permissions problems
[01:19] <thegladiator> mwe, hdd ?
[01:20] <mwe> thegladiator: I was commenting on dapper :)
[01:20] <xukun> when I was installing ubuntu I choose to dutch language. How can I change to english?
[01:20] <thegladiator> ah :)
[01:20] <jose171181> anyone ubuntu community?
[01:20] <mwe> xukun: /etc/environment, change LANG and LANGUAGE
[01:20] <Pygi> no, why running X as root :/
[01:20] <LoRe> xukun: $EDITOR /etc/environment
[01:20] <globe> hyakuhei: good idea. should I enable root account or use sudo?
[01:20] <bob_4_a_day> xukun sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale
[01:20] <Pygi> do not suggest root :/
[01:20] <Pygi> do not enable root :/
[01:21] <hyakuhei> just sudo should be fine
[01:21] <hyakuhei> Pygi: read before you post
[01:21] <xukun> thanks bob_4_a_day LoRe mwe
[01:21] <Pygi> hyakuhei: huh
[01:21] <hyakuhei> globe: we are only seeing if X runs as root, not going to use it in general
[01:21] <jose171181> oKtosiTe, last try: do you have ffmpeg installed and able to run two commands for me?
[01:22] <jose171181> dunno why it was not intended as private message
[01:22] <thais> han?
[01:22] <mwe> xukun: I guess it would be LANGUAGE="en_NL:en" LANG="en_NL"
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> pygi if you want to set the root password it's easy, just do 'sudo passwd '
[01:22] <globe> hyakuhei: right. unfortunately I have to reboot. I am in windows so I can use the internet.
[01:22] <xukun> mwe, true
[01:22] <Pygi> bob: yes, I know, but don't suggest puting root pass :P
[01:22] <hyakuhei> globe: wait
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> don't sujest ?
[01:23] <Pygi> bob: that's bad and the mighty penguin will smash you :P
[01:23] <hyakuhei> globe: do you not have any internet access in ubuntu?
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> Pygi you own linux do you ?
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm news to me.
[01:23] <globe> not unless I can get my wifi card online from the shell
[01:23] <Pygi> bob: own? heh :P
[01:23] <giggsey> When I try to load amarok I get SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0 (via terminal)
[01:23] <hyakuhei> globe, that isnt hard mate :)
[01:23] <jose171181> thanks for ignoring me, have a beautiful day
[01:24] <Draken> how do u enable root ?
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: what version?
[01:24] <Pygi> Draken: you don't need root...use sudo if you must
[01:24] <apokryphos> Draken: by setting a root pass
[01:24] <giggsey> of amarok? or ubuntu
[01:24] <hyakuhei> globe: is it a native card or does it use ncurses?
[01:24] <bob_4_a_day> oh you mean that this is your channel and you'll ban me for that Pygi ?
[01:24] <Draken> i want root
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: amaroK
[01:24] <mwe> setting a root password is ok. just opens a potential security hole. not too bad if you use a good password
[01:24] <Draken> u cant sudo when in a gui
[01:24] <thegladiator> giggsery , you may also want to try #amarok . it could have been acused if you modified fonts , themes or something . just a guess
[01:24] <giggsey> apokryphos, 1.3
[01:24] <apokryphos> Draken: huh?
[01:24] <Pygi> bob: lol, no ofcourse :) just suggesting not to advise people to use root :P especially the ones who don't know what they are doin' :P
[01:24] <apokryphos> giggsey: update to the latest -- there's a kubuntu repo with it
[01:25] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[01:25] <ubotu> amarok 1.3.7 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[01:25] <Draken> im using kubuntu, and anything i want to change, always says u need to be a admin
[01:25] <globe> hyakuhei: ummm, I dont know what that means. It is an external card that is listed in the ubuntu wifi supported list.
[01:25] <hyakuhei> Draken: thats just broken then
[01:25] <Draken> and yes i have tried my normal user password, doesnt work
[01:25] <Pygi> Draken: you can "gksudo" or "kdesu"
[01:25] <otep> gksudo?
[01:25] <apokryphos> Draken: yes..... so you put in your *user* pass
[01:25] <otep> i mean, use gksudo then
[01:25] <apokryphos> Draken: you *never* should need a root pass on Kubuntu
[01:25] <mwe> Draken: sounds broken. is the user in the admin group?
[01:26] <Pygi> apokryphos: agreed :)
[01:26] <Draken> mwe, i cant check, because only a admin can
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: what version of Kubuntu are you running
[01:26] <hyakuhei> globe: we can save the networking tutorial for another day ;) go see if you can get X working :)
[01:26] <Draken> latest
[01:26] <Draken> downloaded yesturday
[01:26] <Draken> kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: you  need to grab the updates from breezy-updates
[01:26] <mwe> Draken: no type groups as your own user in a terminal and it will show you what groups you're in
[01:26] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. Thanks!
[01:26] <hyakuhei> Draken: cat /etc/group
[01:26] <apokryphos> Draken: enable breezy-updates repository, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed, and then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:26] <hyakuhei> globe: np
[01:26] <mwe> Draken: the user created in the installer should be in the admin group if you didn't change it
[01:27] <Draken> ok apokryphos
[01:27] <Draken> will that fix it up ?
[01:27] <Seveas> Draken, did you perhaps do a server install?
[01:27] <globe> hyakuhei: do you happen to have a website or wiki that has that kind of nfo in it?
[01:27] <Draken> nope Seveas
[01:27] <apokryphos> Draken: it should. Is this the first user on the box?
[01:27] <Seveas> Draken, odd, are you in the admin group (the id command should tell)
[01:27] <hyakuhei> globe: I know the ubuntu pages have some good info
[01:27] <bob_4_a_day> chances are if he'd done a server install he'd have a root password
[01:27] <Draken> well i cant check atm Seveas
[01:27] <Draken> im in windows
[01:28] <Draken> just finishing a downloa
[01:28] <thegladiator> is ubuntu being used commercially ? in compamies ?
[01:28] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. I will look into that in abit. Thanks again
[01:28] <Draken> but i gave root a password anyways, but when i try login, it says root is disabled ?
[01:28] <Seveas> Draken, then check later, the user created when installing should be in the admin group
[01:28] <thegladiator> for official use with comemrcial support
[01:28] <Seveas> root cannot login in the gui, that's disabled in gdm/kdm config
[01:28] <MarcN> Draken: root is also disabled for login.
[01:28] <Draken> ok
[01:29] <bob_4_a_day> Draken when you try to login in X root is 'by default' disabled in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  "assuming gnome"
[01:30] <giggsey> in some cases, root is needed
[01:30] <Draken> MarcN, some of us are not linux pros
[01:30] <Draken> its easyer to use the gui
[01:30] <MarcN> giggsey: very rarely, and in that case sudo -s gets you there.
[01:30] <Draken> and u cant just sudo in the gui :P
[01:30] <Seveas> giggsey, no it isn't :)
[01:30] <Seveas> MarcN, sudo -i
[01:31] <giggsey> yeah, but you need root to install sudo :P
[01:31] <Yeahnude> It says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin
[01:31] <riccardo> ciao
[01:31] <Seveas> giggsey, hehe, that's why the installer is doing that :)
[01:31] <giggsey> (if you install it on a different distro)
[01:31] <MarcN> giggsey: sudo is installed by default. and the first account is added to sudousers
[01:31] <shad0w1e> how do I copy the mbr of one drive onto another? to check.. is it : dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=446 count=1   ???
[01:31] <Seveas> bs=512
[01:31] <shad0w1e> 512 will include the partition table as well, no?
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, you shouldn't
[01:32] <thegladiator> Yeahnude, perhaps in the boot menu , if you have one , there are 2 other modes , one for test and other for mem test . try the test mode
[01:32] <mcjerry> NEWBS: login as normal user then su root in terminal console then apt-get install sudo
[01:32] <Yeahnude> It says: Root admin cant login at this login (start) Were can i login as root? I want to login as admin - Anyone know? ( I only have the root account )
[01:32] <MarcN> Yeahnude: you don't need to login as root.  It is called 'best practice' not to.   Use sudo or gksudo when  you really need to do something as root.
[01:32] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: to what end are you doing that, as the dd approach is dangerous
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, login in terminal, create normal user, use that user to login
[01:32] <Yeahnude> MarcN i only have root account
[01:32] <Yeahnude> Seveas hey, how i login at terminal?
[01:32] <Yeahnude> :P
[01:32] <Seveas> Do NOT use root unless absolutely needed
[01:32] <yatesy> goto a console then
[01:32] <MarcN> Yeahnude: and how did you get only a root account and not a user account?
[01:32] <yatesy> control alt f1
[01:32] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe when i install ubuntu first command i type after it boots is 'apt-get remove sudo '   :)
[01:32] <Seveas> Yeahnude, <ctrl><alt><f1>
[01:33] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: why?
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> cause i don't like sudo
[01:33] <yatesy> why?
[01:33] <yatesy> its a huge timesaver
[01:33] <Yeahnude> Seveas yes so im in terminal. I want to creat a account so i can use the "admin" things in ubuntu
[01:33] <apokryphos> bob_4_a_day: it's the superior model
[01:33] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, just copying the mbr onto a new harddrive
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> yatesy bull roar
[01:33] <mcjerry> neither do i, su suits my needs in one open terminal
[01:33] <Seveas> Yeahnude, adduser some_name && adduser some_name admin
[01:33] <thegladiator> bob_4_a_day, perhaps you do want to give others an easy acess ?
[01:34] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: what?
[01:34] <bob_4_a_day> you are obviously not a console user
[01:34] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, -ETOPIC
[01:34] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: why?
[01:34] <Seveas> this is not a discussion for in here, please stop
[01:34] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, becase I dont have a Windows 2000 Professional CD handy
[01:34] <yatesy> bob_4_a_day: ... i've been using consoles for years frankly
[01:34] <Seveas> yatesy, -ETOPIC
[01:34] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas he asked
[01:34] <hyakuhei> I see
[01:34] <yatesy> Seveas: roger
[01:35] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas what should i do ignore and not answer ?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: Well, dd seems like the right route, just be aware that there are a lot of external factors involved so its not guarenteed to work
[01:35] <yatesy> Seveas: whats the -E supposed to symbolise?!
[01:35] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, is count=1 ?
[01:35] <afief> Why does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S
[01:35] <shad0w1e> thats what im checking
[01:35] <Yeahnude> Seveas In the last it says, after password i must fill in the account rate. What is the best?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: if the mbr on that disk is 512bytes then yes
[01:35] <Yeahnude> highest rate
[01:35] <Seveas> yatesy, it's a stupis geeky way of saying offtopic. Constants starting with E are errors :)
[01:35] <globe> How do I tell xwin where my screen is? Xwin wont start: the fatal error is that it cant find any screens.
[01:35] <Seveas> highest rate?
[01:35] <yatesy> Seveas: ah heh
[01:36] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, would it be anything else?
[01:36] <Athame> hello all
[01:36] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: I think it can be, not normally though
[01:36] <hyakuhei> hey globe, no luck?
[01:36] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, the target hard disk is > 132 GB. the source is not. will that make a difference?
[01:36] <hyakuhei> globe: X didnt start but the window manager did, couldnt find X and then died
[01:36] <steele> hi, can someone aide me? I want to start VICE with x64, but it seems there is the kernal missing: but cbm4linux cannot be installed, whyever, does someone know about this problem?
[01:36] <Yeahnude> Seveas i wrote add user, name: fredrik password: ******* and after that it says "vrde swedish, translate= rate" value.. something like that. It says that normal user have 1000, i want the best so i can change admin things in ubuntu
[01:36] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: I couldnt tell you, maybee google for the datasheet for that particular hdd
[01:37] <shad0w1e> hyakuhei, OK THANKS!
[01:37] <Seveas> Yeahnude, 1000
[01:37] <globe> hyakuhei: the window manager sort of started. I am starting to think that it is using the wrong character set because instead of displaying borders around the error box it had abunch of hex chars
[01:38] <afief> Why does 3D-Desktop need 110 MB ram?:S all it needs are 16 vertexis, 8 faces and 4 textures:S
[01:38] <hyakuhei> globe: that could have actually been a "ncurses" interface
[01:38] <Seveas> afief, shared or exclusive?
[01:38] <hyakuhei> afief: building a cached tree of future renderings perhaps?
[01:39] <Athame> I'm a complete linux noob, I just installed unbutu as a dual boot with xp pro. When I boot into ubuntu, I get to the 'flash' screen for ubuntu hear the music and the system freezes, does the same thing with the live CD. Any ideas what's happening and how to fix it?
[01:39] <hyakuhei> though that sounds stupid, I retract that and bow my head in shame
[01:39] <shad0w1e> Athame, hahaha n00b!
[01:39] <afief> Sevas: I don't know what that means^^
[01:39] <hyakuhei> shad0w1e: shut up
[01:39] <shad0w1e> btw, you're a newbie, not a n00b.
[01:40] <Athame> gotcha :P
[01:40] <Seveas> shad0w1e: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:40] <mcjerry> Athame: what cpu and what iso did you dload and install and what video card do you have?
[01:40] <afief> hyakuhei: would be a shame, since it could render it without hardware acceleration just in time
[01:40] <hyakuhei> afief: aye
[01:41] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. I'll believe that. Is X having trouble finding the hardware interface to my screen or is it having an internal problem?
[01:41] <Athame> pent 4 , breezy, nvidia g force
[01:41] <afief> hyakuhei: any idea how i can turn it off? i'm using 180 MB ram, of which 110 are 3ddesktop
[01:41] <Yeahnude> What is the command for user setup in terminal ? last quest:P
[01:41] <Seveas> Yeahnude, adduser is complete?
[01:41] <mcjerry> Athame: does it hang on the usplash or just go to a black screen and you here music?
[01:41] <apokryphos> Yeahnude: user setup? You mean add new user?
[01:41] <hyakuhei> afief: sorry, I have no experience with 3D-Desktop as such, more than likely its grabbing a pre-defined amount of ram though
[01:42] <hyakuhei> afief: so find the config file / modify the source
[01:42] <bob_4_a_day> Athame network issue maybe.
[01:42] <Athame> mcjerry - it hangs on upsplash
[01:42] <hyakuhei> globe: its really hard to tell from here, sorry
[01:42] <afief> hyakuhei: would love to start playing with sources, but my C/C++ knowledge is limited
[01:42] <hyakuhei> Athame: a lot of the time that error is to do with ESD blocking io, trying to access sound hardware.
[01:42] <globe> hyakuhei: n/p. Thanks for your help ;-)
[01:43] <hyakuhei> globe: np, if you can get more info on the problem I will be happy to take another look
[01:43] <Athame> can it be fixed from bios or xp? I can't get into ubuntu at all?
[01:43] <McJerry> Athamo: can you boot to recovery mode and get  to a console
[01:44] <Athame> no
[01:44] <giggsey> Right, I've upgraded to amaroK 1.3.7 and its still giving SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 0
[01:44] <Yeahnude> Seveas I have now logged in as the new account "fredrik" but i want to use the "adminstration - > Add Comp" So i can fix somethings in the network
[01:44] <globe> hyakuhei: thx. I am going to venture into getting my netgear wifi up ....
[01:44] <hyakuhei> globe: do you use WEP or WPA?
[01:44] <Seveas> Yeahnude, as root: adduser fredrik admin
[01:44] <Seveas> then frdrik can use his own password when doing this
[01:45] <globe> hyakuhei: nope. I turned that off to simplify things. I am MAC filtering for now.
[01:45] <hyakuhei> coolio
[01:45] <McJerry> Athame: which iso did you dload and install ?
[01:45] <hyakuhei> globe: should be easy to set up
[01:46] <Athame> MCJerry - breezy the newest version, d/l it last night
[01:46] <hyakuhei> you need to find the interface its been given, like "eth0"
[01:46] <hyakuhei> globe: what make was the card again
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> Athame but which ?
[01:46] <McJerry> Athamo for x86 or 64 bit?
[01:47] <redhook> or mac?
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> or ppc ?
[01:47] <Athame> 5.10 64 bit I think
[01:47] <globe> hyakuhei: its a netgear. the chart on the wifi card support list says it has the prism chipset.
[01:47] <hyakuhei> cool,
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> Athame and you do have a k7 ?
[01:47] <Athame> sorry, k7?
[01:48] <McJerry> Atamo: I'd recommend dloading and installing x86 iso for your first install to see if this resolves issue
[01:48] <bob_4_a_day> 64 bit processor
[01:48] <afief> Where can i find a good guide for programming under linux?(i already have a good windows experience)
[01:48] <hyakuhei> well in linux if you type "dmesg | less" it will give you a load of information generated by the kernel, you can use pageUp or pageDown to go through the info, and q to quit, look for a reference to the wireless card, something like "wlan0" or "eth0"
[01:49] <Athame> bob-for-a-day yes, MCJerry I can try that, tonight
[01:49] <hyakuhei> globe: on second thoughts, just type iwconfig, if you see an interface with lots of info, then it has seen your wifi card
[01:49] <gnomefreak> afief, what language you do you just want an ide or what?
[01:49] <hyakuhei> globe: then just try: "iwconfig <interface> ap any"
[01:50] <zamuro> afief: Depends on what language u wanna learn about
[01:50] <gnomefreak> you/or
[01:50] <Yeahnude> Seveas Failed to run network-admin Child terminated 1 status
[01:50] <afief> well, I am familiar with C, some C++, delphi, C# and another language that must not be named
[01:50] <globe> hyakuhei: I was just reading about that. I am thinking that it will not because when I installed I had an avaya card in the slot that went bad on me.
[01:50] <Seveas> Yeahnude, in the terminal: sudo echo foo
[01:50] <Seveas> (as user frederik)
[01:50] <afief> but i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide
[01:50] <McJerry> Athamo: otherwise since you cannot boot beyond usplash with cd, or recovery mode and get to console, no way i can help....maybe others can, but x86 install in 32bit would probably get you going then you can upgrade to k7 kernel later
[01:50] <hyakuhei> globe: if that card isnt there now then it shouldnt matter
[01:50] <cafuego> Hmm, tequila flavours on a 40C+ day are just good[tm]
[01:51] <zamuro> afief: It's pretty much the same under Linux. I mean, if you are a console freak, you won't notice the difference
[01:51] <Athame> MCJerry - OK I'll try that, thank you for the help
[01:51] <afief> zamuro: i would like to get some practical C++-under-linux guide
[01:51] <gnomefreak> afief, under linux is not much different than under windows just different editors
[01:51] <cafuego> Athame: Also, on 32bit a lot of stuff "just works" that doesn't on 64bit.
[01:51] <afief> well, the problem is i know neither the editors, nor was i ever good with C++
[01:51] <McJerry> agreed
[01:51] <globe> hyakuhei: does ubuntu do a pcmcia scan on every boot and compile the drivers?
[01:51] <cafuego> globe: no
[01:51] <zamuro> I'd recommend you to start using xemacs
[01:52] <globe> I thought not
[01:52] <Yeahnude> Seveas i added instead account admin "adduser admin admin" sudo echo foo admin" ? im logged in with root in terminal. What should i write? When i have fixed this i can do the rest i thought : )
[01:52] <gnomefreak> emacs for beginners :(
[01:53] <zamuro> gnomefreak: I started using Kwrite lol
[01:53] <gnomefreak> i was thinking more of kdevelop or anjuta for beginners
[01:53] <Seveas> Yeahnude, why didn't you follow a few simple directions?
[01:53] <Yeahnude> Seveas sorry, i miiss understood it :p
[01:53] <hyakuhei> globe: cardctl is run at boot, that should load into the kernel any modules pertaining to that card
[01:54] <cafuego> kyncani: Well, on Breezy anyway.
[01:54] <antix> is mysql going to be updated in breezy? I would like 4.1.x or higher
[01:54] <globe> hyakuhei: okay. whats the irc client command?
[01:54] <shreevatsa> Why do all GTK apps look crappy in KDE?
[01:54] <Seveas> !info mysql-server breezy
[01:54] <cafuego> antix: mysql-server-4.1 is already there
[01:54] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[01:54] <Seveas> !info mysql-server-4.1 breezy
[01:54] <ubotu> mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 16929 kB, Installed size: 37968 kB
[01:54] <Seveas> there :)
[01:54] <hyakuhei> globe: well, you would need one, I suggest irssi, sooo you would need to:
[01:54] <afief> zamuro: are the include libraries the same as under windows??
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: run "irssi" from the command line
[01:55] <bob_4_a_day> shreevatsa fonts ?
[01:55] <Yeahnude> Seveas how i do form step1. I promise to do right htis time. i promise to not ask more after i have fix this, i know its booring to answear me
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: in irssi type "/server irc.freenode.net"
[01:55] <antix> cafuego, aha there is a mysql-client-4.1 thanks =)
[01:55] <hyakuhei> globe: when it has connected to freenode type "/j #ubuntu"
[01:55] <Seveas> Yeahnude, first put /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/sudoers on the pastebin
[01:56] <cafuego> antix: Yes, but without mysql-server-4.1 that's a tad pointless.
[01:56] <hyakuhei> globe: then you should be here
[01:56] <antix> cafuego, ok thanks
[01:56] <Yeahnude> Seveas When im logged in as root in terminal?
[01:56] <globe> hyakuhei: I thought there was a basic irc client that shipped with the kernel.... oh well. I'll see what I can do. (after I get a piece of paper ....)
[01:56] <zamuro> afief: Not really... In fact, Linux is embed with its own c, c++ compiler
[01:57] <gnomefreak> globe, xchat
[01:57] <cafuego> afief: The standard libs are. The ones pertaining specifically to the UI are not.
[01:57] <bob_4_a_day> and after you have put all your secret system files on the paste bin run telnet server and sshd   lol
[01:57] <hyakuhei> globe: not that im aware of, though xchat ships with ubuntu
[01:57] <hyakuhei> that needs X
[01:57] <afief> where can i read more about that part?:s
[01:57] <cafuego> afief: So stuff like <iostream> or <stdio.h> do exist on Linux.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> zamuro, hes gonna have to install gcc/g++
[01:57] <globe> maybe thats what I was thinking of
[01:58] <afief> gnomefreak: i have
[01:58] <cafuego> globe: in-kernel irc... hmm... interesting idea
[01:58] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:58] <zamuro> gnomefreak: Forgot that! I had some issues related to gcc when i first installed ubuntu lol
[01:58] <afief> gnomefreak: though when i try ./configure it still can't guess my arch automaticly
[01:58] <cafuego> afief: You'll want 'build-essential'
[01:58] <iTune> Hello
[01:59] <zamuro> iTune: Hi
[01:59] <gnomefreak> zamuro,  me too took me forever to figure out i needed gcc not just gcc4.0 :(
[01:59] <iTune> I need help with BitchX
[01:59] <iTune> ?
[01:59] <zamuro> lol
[01:59] <bob_4_a_day> iTune ?
[01:59] <afief> shouldn't there be a category for this stuff or a meta header?
[01:59] <iTune> how can i run bitchx
[01:59] <iTune> ?
[01:59] <Seveas> !compiling
[01:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:59] <cafuego> There is no known cure except a bitchxerectomy.
[01:59] <zamuro> iTune: bitchx on a console
[01:59] <gnomefreak> iTune, in terminal type bitchx
[01:59] <Seveas> cafuego, hehe
[02:00] <cafuego> "alias bitchx='irssi-text': ; bitchx
[02:00] <iTune> zeah
[02:00] <iTune> and i can use it
[02:00] <iTune> in terminal mode
[02:00] <gnomefreak> or if you have bitchx-gtk type xbitchx
[02:00] <iTune> ?
[02:00] <globe> cafuego: :-)
[02:00] <Seveas> in terminal, type: apt-get remove --purge bitch && apt-get install irssi-text && irssi
[02:00] <zamuro> iTune: Actually, bitchx _is_ a terminal based client
[02:00] <bob_4_a_day> in a terminal/console type bitchx -n 'nickname' -c '#channel'  irc.server.ext iTune
[02:00] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:00] <cafuego> iTune: Althought it has an X in its name, BitchX is console-only.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> bitchx is a terminal only app
[02:00] <McJerry> would recomment installing both gcc-3.4 along with gcc-4.0 and create two scripts called switch-compiler-3.4 and switch-compler-4.0 and placing them in /usr/local/bin as some progs require one or the other
[02:00] <iTune> ok
[02:00] <iTune> can you tell me some good client
[02:00] <iTune> ?
[02:01] <zamuro> No1Viking: Try using your own username and password.
[02:01] <cafuego> McJerry: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas whats better about irrsi?
[02:01] <bob_4_a_day> xchat iTune
[02:01] <zamuro> iTune: irssi... No doubt bout that
[02:01] <Yeahnude> Seveas pastebin what is that?
[02:01] <Seveas> gnomefreak, everything :)
[02:01] <Yeahnude> !info pastebin
[02:01] <Seveas> !tell Yeahnude about pastebin
[02:01] <cafuego> iTune: for X windows, try x-chat (or even gaim)
[02:01] <No1Viking> zamuro, did but no luck
[02:01] <zygis> hi, where do I have specify required kernel module options to be loaded on boot?
[02:01] <iTune> aha
[02:01] <iTune> thx a lot friends
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i might have to try it
[02:02] <McJerry> cafuego: yes, can do that, i have a tendency to forget so i created the scripts and mainly leave 3.4 as default
[02:02] <zygis> I see that /etc/modules.conf doesn't exist
[02:02] <zamuro> Hmmm... Never had that issue before... Is that other computer a windows machine?
[02:02] <cafuego> zygis: in any file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[02:02] <No1Viking> zamuro, nope, it's a ubuntu box
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro depends on what you do with irc if you like bx or irssi better.
[02:02] <BjornW> can somebody tell how I can add folders to the sidebar in Nautilus....ie the place where the Desktop and Home folder reside
[02:03] <cafuego> gnomefreak: dapper like a 'vga=791' boot parm to help it along ;-)
[02:03] <cafuego> BjornW: start gedit, choose File -> Open, navigate to the folder you want to add, click the 'Add' button.
[02:03] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: For someone who just chats and wants to use a console client, I'd rather have recommend irssi.
[02:04] <zygis> cafuego, ah.. will try :)
[02:04] <BjornW> cafuego: thanks...btw thats some screwed interaction design
[02:04] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW what folders you have in mind ?
[02:04] <zamuro> Guys... Have you tried use the debian repositories on /etc/apt/sources.list and tried apt-get dist-update?
[02:05] <BjornW> bob_4_a_day: I'm having a mac for work and I kinda like to have a music and movies folder  in the sidebar
[02:05] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro sure but for a chan op bx has some advantages
[02:05] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:05] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: LOL... Like /fuckem
[02:05] <bob_4_a_day> zamuro if you want to break every thing that dist upgrade will do it.
[02:05] <zamuro> There's an script on irssi which does that exactly
[02:06] <Yeahnude> Seveas Cant we take it from the begginging. I read it the ubotu told me.  What should i do after? When i take /etc/passwd in root terminal i get no legitimacy "
[02:06] <zamuro> bob_4_a_day: That's what I'm affraid of.
[02:07] <Draken> guys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository
[02:07] <Kindred> hm, anyone know of a gnome based ftp client that's better than gftp?.. mmm gnome.
[02:07] <Seveas> Yeahnude, yes we can start from the beginning, but I need to see the state of these 3 files to determine what to do next
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW if the music and movies directories are in your $HOME thet should appear there auto.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i know i really shouldnt ask this but are vim commands any easier to learn than emacs?
[02:08] <giggsey> Whats the best music player?
[02:08] <Draken> guys, how do i enable breezy-updates repository
[02:08] <Seveas> gnomefreak, they're both not too easy to grasp, but I find the vim commands more intuitive
[02:08] <Seveas> !tell Draken about repos
[02:08] <zamuro> giggsey: Depends on what you want to do and prior experience.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Draken,  in your sources.list take the # away from the begining of the line you want enabled
[02:09] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW you can make symlinks in $HOME to other locations and have them appear in the side bar too
[02:09] <Draken> ok ta gnomefreak
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Seveas, ty i will look for a guide on vim :)
[02:09] <Seveas> gnomefreak, vimtutor :)
[02:09] <Seveas> (it's a command)
[02:10] <Yeahnude> Seveas hos i show you those states?
[02:10] <Draken> where can i find source.list ?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ty lol almost too easy
[02:10] <zygis> ghm.. cafuego, I've added my 'options snd-hda-intel model=z71v' to the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, but it doesn't work
[02:10] <zamuro> giggsey: There's amrok, xmms... I'd rather use xmms cuz looks like Winamp a lot and I really didn't felt the difference once I started using Linux
[02:10] <cafuego> Draken: /etc/apt
[02:10] <Draken> ta
[02:10] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[02:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:10] <Seveas> Yeahnude, by putting those files on the pastebin...
[02:10] <cafuego> zygis: After a reboot it will.
[02:10] <giggsey> thanks zamuro
[02:10] <zamuro> giggsey: No problem
[02:11] <zygis> cafuego, no, it doesn't :)
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> cafuego i figured one of had to hit it :)
[02:11] <tuskernini> hi there all
[02:11] <zamuro> tuskernini: Hi
[02:11] <rigmor> I assume that most of you are experienced users of ubuntu. I'm having minor problems with a install script for a radeon driver. If any of you can help, I'll be more than grateful.
[02:11] <tuskernini> does anyone have experience with a via vt8235 onboard soundcard?
[02:11] <zamuro> rigmor: What spescific problem u have?
[02:12] <zamuro> Specific**
[02:12] <rigmor> I don't know how to install the driver.
[02:12] <Yeahnude> Seveas so i send it to you? the pastebin
[02:12] <Seveas> Yeahnude, what do you mean?
[02:12] <rigmor> I downloaded a driver package, with a install script. I don't know how to run the script.
[02:13] <Seveas> rigmor, from ati.com?
[02:13] <zamuro> rigmor: Hmmm...
[02:13] <Yeahnude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ at that:S ? Im not sitting with the linux computer right now so u know :p i have it here next to my windows ocmputer
[02:13] <Loader> Hello everyoone ..
[02:13] <Seveas> Yeahnude, yes, paste the contents of these files at that site
[02:13] <tuskernini> Loader: hi
[02:13] <Loader> I`m new to ubuntu :)
[02:13] <McJerry> rigmor: ./name-of-scrip.ext
[02:14] <Yeahnude> and then your name ?
[02:14] <Seveas> yours :)
[02:14] <rigmor> install.sh
[02:14] <zamuro> then you should do sh install.sh
[02:14] <rigmor> in the terminal, that is?
[02:15] <McJerry> rigmor: ./name-of-script.ext = ./install.sh or as zamuo said sh install.sh
[02:15] <bob_4_a_day> BjornW maybe i told you wrong about that in gnome symlinks don't seem to show up in the side bar like they do in kde.... sorry.
[02:15] <Loader> I was wondering how to save my settings to a usb stick since im using the livecd version of ubuntu :P
[02:16] <Yeahnude> Seveas i have paste it now
[02:16] <Yeahnude> with a picture
[02:16] <rigmor> Can't locate the pkginfo file.
[02:16] <Seveas> Yeahnude, that's unreadable...
[02:17] <vrln> a friend of mine is writing a certain script (e17 installation), but there is one problem: how could the script check if the distro in question is ubuntu breezy?
[02:17] <Seveas> does the Ubuntu machine have an internet connection?
[02:17] <rigmor> Yes.
[02:17] <vrln> I haven't seem to find a /etc/ubuntu-version
[02:17] <vrln> is there something similar somewhere?
[02:17] <Seveas> vrln, /etc/lsb-release
[02:17] <Seveas> source /etc/lsb-release
[02:17] <Loader> Anyone ?
[02:17] <Yeahnude> Seveas not right now, i will setup "sharing internet" with this computer to ( the ubuntu machine av 2 networkcards u know)
[02:17] <vrln> awesome, thank you
[02:17] <Yeahnude> thats why i need to setup the network
[02:17] <Seveas> if [[ x"$DISTRIB_RELEASE" > x"5.04" ] ] ; then echo "Breezy or higher"; fi
[02:18] <zamuro> Loader: Hmm... isn't there a ./configure?
[02:18] <bob_4_a_day> well that's another thing i've found that i don't like about nautilus that i do like about konqueror  the side bar in 'nome's nautilus is crap....
[02:18] <Syche> I am getting a Fatal: Module Reiserfs not found when I boot up. Custom kernel. / is Reiserfs
[02:18] <Seveas> Yeahnude, ok, then it'll be a bit harder, meet me in a private chat
[02:18] <hyakuhei> Syche: you need to compile reiser into the kernel
[02:18] <hyakuhei> rather than as a module
[02:19] <Syche> Its compiled in
[02:19] <Syche> and it boots ok too
[02:19] <hyakuhei> no its not, if its complaining like that
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> Syche you have root on reiser and didn't compile in reiserfs support  lol
[02:19] <vrln> also, I'm on Breezy, and found something odd on my system: in /etc/, there is both a passwd and passwd- (same for shadow)
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> oh ok you did compile it in....
[02:19] <vrln> is this normal? (and passwd is readable to my user account, while passwd- is not)
[02:19] <Loader> zamuro, I have no idea, i had used other livecds from other distros and they had a script called configsave that would save all ur settings, files and changes you made the desktop and what not
[02:19] <coz> morning all
[02:19] <Syche> yes. and everything as such works fine
[02:19] <hyakuhei> vrln: backup from some admin program no doubt
[02:20] <No1Viking> I try to connect to a shared folder on another computer. When I do it I get a login question to login to my own machine!! Any ideas would be apprecciated?
[02:20] <Kindred> rigmor, which driver exactly are you trying to install?
[02:20] <vrln> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1240 2005-12-17 01:18 passwd
[02:20] <vrln> vrln@core:/etc$ ls -l passwd-
[02:20] <vrln> -rw-------  1 root root 1240 2005-09-17 01:48 passwd-
[02:20] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: what do you mean by shared?
[02:20] <Syche> the splash screen too. But when i skip the splash by ALT F1, there are a few errors
[02:20] <zamuro> Sorry.. got confused... In you case, there's an script or even a x menu option to save your config.
[02:20] <hyakuhei> vrln: looks safe
[02:21] <rigmor> The install.sh-file is placed in a folder, in the same folder, there's three other folders. Radeon, Extras and Drm. There's no readme here, so I don't know what to do.
[02:21] <Loader> where is it ?
[02:21] <No1Viking> hyakuhei, In Gnome, System ---Administration you have Shared folders
[02:21] <zamuro> rigmor: Try looking for a configure file
[02:21] <Loader> i cant seem to find it.
[02:21] <bob_4_a_day> vrin world readable passwd    tisk tisk...
[02:21] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: samba or nfs?
[02:21] <No1Viking> samba
[02:21] <danny> hey anyone know how i check that mysql server is installed and mysql-client is installed and working
[02:21] <zamuro> Loader: Never used ubuntu livecd. But i seem to remember that knoppix had one of that kind.
[02:22] <No1Viking> hyakuhei, samba
[02:22] <zamuro> danny: Try mysql -uroot
[02:22] <Loader> :/
[02:22] <rigmor> It's a ATI mobility radeon 7500c driver.
[02:23] <Syche> can anyone explain how usplash works?
[02:23] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: no idea why it is doing that, try mounting the remote share using the command line
[02:23] <coz> Syche hold on I will find the url for you
[02:23] <Syche> or the requiremets in a kernel
[02:24] <danny> Zamuro, it says error 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[02:24] <Syche> ok cgz
[02:24] <No1Viking> OK
[02:24] <Loader> Anyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?
[02:24] <hyakuhei> No1Viking: ie: #mount -t smbfs -o -username=<user>,-password=<foo> <IP_ADDRESS>:/<share>
[02:24] <zamuro> Oh... you have to create the socket file
[02:24] <danny> zamuro, and how do i do that
[02:24] <[nige] > hey alll
[02:24] <No1Viking> Thanks hyakuhei
[02:24] <coz> Syche what do you need to know about it?
[02:25] <zamuro> go to you mysql install dir and in bin folder execute mysql_create_system_tables
[02:26] <Syche> coz: I compiled my own kernel. It cant seem to access vesa fb drivers . It gives the Fatal module reiserfs not found. Thugh usplash works
[02:26] <[nige] > g'day all
[02:26] <zamuro> [nige] : G'day, mate
[02:26] <Syche> but since / is Reiserfs, I cant compile it as a module
[02:26] <[nige] > anyone configued newest ATI drivers with Breezy yet?
[02:26] <Yeahnude> anyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?
[02:27] <rigmor> I installed ubuntu last night. I can't install the ati driver.  Do i need some sort of xfree86-program, or something?
[02:27] <zamuro> Yeahnude: hmmm... there's an account manager
[02:27] <Syche> [nige]  : 8.20.10?
[02:27] <[nige] > yer
[02:27] <coz> I see well there are many threads on the forums I can look but I think you wqwold have moreluck looking yourself
[02:28] <Yeahnude> zamuro but i cant go in at that in the "ubuntu" it says child 1 termintaed"
[02:28] <[nige] > i had it working with 8.16 without using the mesa 3d drivers
[02:28] <[nige] > but since i updated it...
[02:28] <[nige] > its back to mesa
[02:28] <Yeahnude> zamuro cant i do it in the terminal
[02:28] <Syche> [nige]  : I've done it
[02:28] <zamuro> Yeahnude: Yeah... lemme check
[02:28] <[nige] > Syche, how did youget it to work
[02:28] <coz> since your needs are more specific than most who do not ocmpile
[02:28] <Syche> [nige]  : hang on let me give you a link
[02:28] <[nige] > okay
[02:28] <[nige] > :>
[02:28] <[nige] > cheers
[02:28] <zamuro> Yeahnude: try as root users-admin
[02:29] <Loader> Anyone here use the livecd version of ubuntu ?
[02:29] <[nige] > Loader, i have used it a few times
[02:29] <bob_4_a_day> have yea
[02:29] <coz> Loader I have used it also
[02:29] <Yeahnude> zamuro i got GTK WaRNING cant open display
[02:30] <bob_4_a_day> is this just a pole ?
[02:30] <Loader> Nige : how do i go about saving my settings
[02:30] <danny> Zamuro, how do i goto tht
[02:30] <Syche> [nige]  : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide          works fine and is he proper Debian way
[02:30] <zamuro> Gee...
[02:30] <zamuro> danny: tht?
[02:30] <mhchai45> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:30] <[nige] > cheers Syche looking now
[02:30] <[nige] > Loader, as in after a reboot?
[02:30] <Loader> yes
[02:30] <Yeahnude> zamuro do u know more?
[02:30] <[nige] > i dont think you can without creating an entirely new live cd
[02:31] <Loader> oh man
[02:31] <danny> zamuro, ?? me confused im new to the whole linux , i no a little terminal but not much
[02:31] <m14> hello
[02:31] <[nige] > it loads everything into ram I understand and doesnt write back to the disk :)
[02:31] <agung> hai boleh knln g?
[02:31] <zamuro> danny: What do you mean with tht?
[02:31] <Loader> that kinda sucks
[02:31] <zamuro> That?
[02:31] <globe> making wifi "ready": iwconfig displays device not ready and it wont connect with iwconfig ... ap any
[02:31] <[nige] > Loader, whys that?
[02:31] <m14> I would just like to ask you something peculiar.... in english would you write "nicoz's trip" or "nicoz' trip" ?
[02:32] <zamuro> Oh, ok... Locate in a console: locate mysql_create_system_tables
[02:32] <m14> sorry if its not in the topic :)
[02:32] <redhook> m14: nicoz's
[02:32] <Loader> cuz its going to suck to have to configure my network, settings and files everytime i reboot.
[02:32] <bob_4_a_day> Loader try saving /home/ubuntu   to the usb
[02:32] <Kindred> [nige] , if you are running 64 bit the ati install is a little different to that page btw
[02:32] <m14> redhook, sure ? and if it was nicos ? nicos' trip ?
[02:32] <zamuro> Or, you simply use mysql_create_system_tables on a console
[02:32] <redhook> m14: yep
[02:33] <danny> zamuro, well earlier u sed i need to go to mysql install dir and then in bin folder ecute..........how do i do that
[02:33] <tuskernini> help... how do i test if my onboard soundcard is working? when i play a mp3 file, it plays, but nosound. looks like the modules are loaded
[02:33] <[nige] > Kindred, thats fine I am only on K7 :)
[02:33] <coz> Loader is there a reason you do not want to install ubuntu?
[02:33] <danny> zamuro, kkk
[02:33] <m14> ok redhook thx !!
[02:33] <[nige] > Loader, why dont you just install it?
[02:33] <vrln> bob_4_a_day: /etc/passwd is world readable on every breezy system
[02:33] <vrln> by default
[02:33] <Loader> coz, im testing before i actually detached from winblows!
[02:33] <vrln> passwd- is not though
[02:34] <coz> I see well I have xp, BeOs , mac os and ubuntu
[02:34] <redhook> Loader: get a USB pen drive and install it on there
[02:34] <coz> Inever go onto mac or BeOs anymore but I do go onto windows occasionally
[02:34] <redguy||work> does anybody know which network has a support channel for Mozilla Thunderbird
[02:34] <coz> so If you only have one machine either continue with the live cd which is essentially useless or dual boot
[02:35] <coz> Loader, what type of things do you do on your windows machine?
[02:35] <Badm4n> what the packaged that i need to install mrtg ?
[02:35] <danny> zamuro, wot is it i need to locate
[02:35] <Badm4n> what the packaged that i need to install mrtg ? FYI: im using ubuntu 5.10
[02:35] <dooglus> is it a known problem with dapper that 'locate' causes a segmentation violation?  or is it just me?
[02:35] <redguy|work> !info mrtg
[02:35] <ubotu> mrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB
[02:36] <redguy|work> Badm4n: viola
[02:36] <FHX> Hi
[02:36] <zamuro> danny: Nothing... If you use mysl_create_system_tables, nothing need to be located. Didn't remember theres a symlink on /usr/bin
[02:36] <FHX> was wondering if you guys could help, the kubuntu channel is dead.
[02:36] <Badm4n> what else except snmp cause it already installed
[02:36] <redhook> Badm4n: you need to enable the extra repository
[02:36] <tuskernini> any soundcard experts in the room?
[02:36] <Badm4n> where is it
[02:36] <danny> zamuro, sorry but i dont get wot u want me to do exactly
[02:36] <Yeahnude> anyone know how i setup my account to (admin) i want to change admin things in ubuntu=?
[02:36] <redguy|work> !tell Badm4n about repos
[02:37] <redhook> Yeahnude: sudo su
[02:37] <zamuro> danny: On a console, type mysql_create_system_tables
[02:37] <FHX> I'm trying to install a Kubuntu theme, and it tells me I need to move a folder here: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but when I enter that in konsole nothing comes up and it won't let me move the folder there. Help?
[02:37] <BullFire> hello
[02:37] <danny> zamuro, kk now i understand
[02:37] <zamuro> danny: That should create mysql table on your database, and so the socket file.
[02:37] <BullFire> can't install initrd-tools
[02:37] <BullFire> can someone help me?
[02:38] <danny> zamuro, i put tht and it says command not found
[02:38] <zamuro> BullFire: Tried apt-get install initrd-tools?
[02:38] <redguy|work> FHX: *directories* (windows tend to call them *folders*) beginning with a . (a dot) are hidden. Files as well. You have to enable viewing hidden files in konquereor
[02:38] <zamuro> danny: the use locate mysql_create_system_tables
[02:38] <BullFire> yes, but it can't find
[02:38] <BullFire> ir
[02:38] <BullFire> it
[02:39] <redguy|work> !info initrd-tools
[02:39] <ubotu> initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.78ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[02:39] <ompaul> FHX, you could try #kubuntu and >> mkdir -p .kde/share/apps/kdm/themes <<
[02:39] <Yeahnude> redhook sudo su in terminal?
[02:39] <redhook> Yeahnude: yes
[02:39] <Yeahnude> redhook like sudo su fredrik
[02:39] <Yeahnude> ?
[02:39] <tuskernini> if i use aplay -l i do not get 4/4 subdevices but 3/4, how do i fix it?
[02:39] <[nige] > bbs
[02:39] <[nige] > needing a rebooot
[02:39] <redhook> Yeahnude: no, sudo su, switches you to root
[02:40] <danny> zamuro, nothign happened just went bk to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:40] <redguy|work> BullFire: hrm, you have a problem with your repos propably
[02:40] <Yeahnude> so in terminal i login as root and write sudo su ?
[02:40] <FHX> ompaul: I did, they're dead in there, noa ctivity for the past half an hour. Hm..do i type that in konsole? or in konqueror?
[02:40] <zamuro> Damn...
[02:40] <ompaul> !tell Yeahnude about sudpo
[02:40] <ompaul> konsole
[02:40] <alexisis> slt
[02:40] <MrSkalman> Get a real OS.. like DOS 6,22
[02:40] <zamuro> danny: Did you install from sources?
[02:40] <ompaul> !tell Yeahnude about sudo
[02:40] <alexisis> y as des fr
[02:40] <redhook> Yeahnude: no, doing sudo su as your regular user will switch you to root, root is the super user
[02:40] <BullFire> I have ubuntu 5.10 and server install
[02:40] <redguy|work> BullFire: since according to what ubotu said initrd-tools are in the main repository
[02:41] <ompaul> guys and gals using sudo is the way to do stuff in ubuntu - I hate to rain on your parade but you really don't need root
[02:41] <Yeahnude> redhook so i login as fredrik in terminal and write sodu su?
[02:41] <Yeahnude> :)
[02:41] <danny> zamuro, nope
[02:41] <redhook> Yeahnude: yes, sudo == Super User DO
[02:41] <zamuro> ompaul: That's rite
[02:42] <ompaul> zamuro, that may have had something to do with why I went to the bother of typing it :-)
[02:42] <lotusleaf> ompaul, unless you're compiling wine from source, then a root password is required
[02:42] <zamuro> danny: Hmmm... Try synaptic and reinstall mysql. That should fix it.
[02:42] <alexisis> wera a ubuntus french serveur
[02:42] <Yeahnude> redhook but do it saves if i login to my account fredrik in the ordinary ubuntu then?
[02:42] <ompaul> lotusleaf, wine - apt-get should sort that out
[02:43] <lotusleaf> ompaul, unless you have to compile from source to get the latest version (not always available in .deb) or cvs
[02:43] <BullFire> redguy: what is the main repository
[02:43] <BullFire> ?
[02:43] <Yeahnude> redhook i want to change the network things in ubuntu (Graphic) so i can set up my network.
[02:43] <redguy|work> !tell BullFire about nicktab
[02:43] <redguy|work> BullFire: initrd-tools of course
[02:43] <alexisis> are you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom
[02:44] <Yeahnude> how i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic?=
[02:44] <bob_4_a_day> it is a good idea to have a "root" password set, if and only if it is a strong password.  then it is a good idea.
[02:44] <alexisis> are you frenc ? i scretch a french ubuntus irc livingroom
[02:44] <ompaul> lotusleaf, well then it would be my contention that wine has a serious problem if it wants an actual password not access to uid0 that is like something you would get on a Microsoft box [/grin]
[02:45] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: still, its a worse idea that having the root password disabled, isn't it?
[02:45] <lotusleaf> ompaul, my point remains ;)
[02:45] <Yeahnude> how i go from terminal to ubuntu graphic? Or i must reboot?
[02:45] <bob_4_a_day> redguy|work no you are wrong.
[02:46] <ompaul> Yeahnude, if you have only installed server >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<  if your having graphics problems >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[02:46] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: why?
[02:46] <danny> zamuro, by tht yr saying reinstall mysql-common, u no the exact name i gotta reinstal
[02:46] <Yeahnude> ompaul i installed expert mode
[02:46] <bob_4_a_day> if you have logs from this very night you can read all about it.
[02:46] <ompaul> Yeahnude, that would indicate to me that the first one is what you want
[02:47] <BullFire> has anyone used i
[02:47] <Goshawk_> is there a command that get a source package from arepo and compile it (so i can run dupload to add to the repo)
[02:47] <Goshawk_> ?
[02:47] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: erm, don't know what to think about what you've just said
[02:48] <ompaul> !tell Goshawk_ about compile
[02:48] <ompaul> Goshawk_, read the message from the bot
[02:48] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: if it was me you were talking to of course
[02:48] <danny> zamuro, ??? u still there
[02:48] <BullFire> has anyone used a highpiont rocketraid 2220 controller in ubuntu ?
[02:49] <s1gnAl> can someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.
[02:49] <Goshawk_> ompaul, thanks
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> in short redguy|work linux systems some times get broken. if you can not login as the user you must use root account.  having a root password makes this easy, while not having one set can force a boot from a live cd to correct the problem.   and for those not familear with linux that can be quite a chore.
[02:49] <ompaul> Goshawk_, your welcome
[02:49] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, wrong!
[02:49] <zamuro> danny: U should look for mysql-server
[02:49] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive ?
[02:49] <Badm4n> ahhh i dont get it
[02:49] <Badm4n> i want to install mrtg from remote
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> ompaul read the logs.
[02:49] <ompaul> !tell draken about ntfs
[02:50] <danny> zamuro, kk
[02:50] <zamuro> danny: Then, maybe synaptic will tell you to reinstall mysql-common as well... Then do so.
[02:50] <s1gnAl> can someone tell me if there is a way to enable root on the desktop temporarily? I know you can sudo passwd root, but I wanted to avoid that if possible. What I am finding out is that if I am in file browser or gedit for example, I can't change any files due to permissions.
[02:50] <[nige] > hello
[02:50] <[nige] > still working through that wiki
[02:50] <[nige] > Syche, did some of the removal things but it has corrupted my Xorg config
[02:51] <zamuro> s1gnAl: Hmmm... There's a simple solution for that: You enable the root password and then you start using gedit as root. That'll solve the permission issue
[02:51] <[nige] > i dont have X at the moment, using the lapto now....which is okay stiil :)
[02:51] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, you do not need root - booting a box in single usermode is easy in ubuntu you stop the boot with esc at the grub menu and choose rescue - now you can reset the user password
[02:51] <zamuro> I mean... In console.
[02:51] <Yeahnude> ompaul I want to use the "system - > admin - > network" or the account manager. But it says that i dont have permission to it. Thats why i want to set Admin to my Fredrik account.
[02:51] <Syche> [nige]  : what did you remove?
[02:51] <[nige] > well i was following the wiki you address you gave me
[02:51] <[nige] > :)
[02:52] <bob_4_a_day> ompaul sulogin can be easily disabled in the gui,  what then ?   and that was the case last night.
[02:52] <[nige] > i removed the restricted Modules
[02:52] <Syche> ok
[02:52] <shreevatsa> How can I find out what soundcard I have?
[02:52] <foxiness> hi, is there tool to help me to orgnize my file and folder like i have two folder with the same name ebook and diff contents ,is there tool help on this filed?
[02:52] <Yeahnude> Can i eneble to login with root?
[02:52] <Syche> thats fine
[02:52] <ompaul> Yeahnude, in a terminal type this: gksudo network-admin << as the "first user on the box"
[02:52] <s1gnAl> zamuro: I had thought about that, but I like the idea of the root account being disabled. They really should include an option in some of these apps to run as sudo, that is my only gripe about this distro so far, other than that I love it!
[02:52] <danny> zamuro, right i done that now wot do i do?
[02:52] <Syche> it will only affect madwifi etc
[02:53] <garrut> s1gnAl why don't you just start gedit etc with sudo?
[02:53] <zamuro> danny: Did you install both packages?
[02:53] <Syche> so did you do the  module-assistant
[02:53] <bob_4_a_day> and if sulogin is disabled booting in single puts you at a login prompt....
[02:53] <[nige] > hmmm
[02:53] <[nige] > it killed something in x for me
[02:53] <[nige] > i might go look at the xorg log
[02:53] <danny> zamuro, common and server if so yes
[02:53] <s1gnAl> garrut: how would I do that? applications->system tools->run as different user?
[02:54] <Goshawk_> ompaul, i'm the one about compiling, my problem is different, i've set up a ubuntu like repo, now i uploaded one package and i want to build tha same package for another arch, is there a command to allow this?
[02:54] <draken> how do i mount a ntfs drive, simple, not auto or any of that junk
[02:54] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, that is the first case of that which  have come across
[02:54] <zamuro> danny: Didn't asked you for anything else?
[02:54] <Gaain> Hi all, newb to tis do I need to start a thread or just chat?
[02:54] <ompaul> bob_4_a_day, I have
[02:54] <raphink> just chat Gaain
[02:54] <Gaain> have problem with ubuntu and web
[02:54] <danny> zamuro, well i just typed in mysql into console and it didnt come up with the socket error
[02:55] <Syche> [nige]  : all you have to make sure in X.org is that ati is there in place of fglrx
[02:55] <Syche> that means you use the open source ati driver
[02:55] <garrut> s1gnAl: yes, or just type 'sudo <command> from a console'
[02:55] <[nige] > well like mesa drivers?
[02:55] <Syche> yes
[02:55] <zamuro> danny: Did it appear in a console some like mysql>?
[02:55] <redguy|work> bob_4_a_day: hrm, you are talking about an extreme situation, and, at least in ubuntu, you always have the rescue boot mode, so still you can boot and be root without having the root's password enabled. And also always you can boot with init=/bin/bash, so the live cd is not the only option
[02:55] <s1gnAl> ahh ok crap I didnt even think about that
[02:55] <[nige] > well it has been using the mesa drivers
[02:55] <s1gnAl> Thanks!
[02:55] <danny> zamuro, yea
[02:55] <[nige] > i want the ati ones to be installed
[02:55] <[nige] > :)
[02:55] <ompaul> Goshawk_, the right place to ask that is #ubuntu-motu there are different switches in gcc for each arch
[02:55] <garrut> np :)
[02:55] <zamuro> danny: Then you're done
[02:56] <danny> zamuro, thanks
[02:56] <foxiness> s1gnAl, i agree with your idea on many area like browser /var/backup it must be root i think this will confuse the user new to linux or ubuntu
[02:56] <zamuro> No problem
[02:56] <Syche> Then continue with the steps
[02:56] <draken> cn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something
[02:56] <Syche> yyou can do it on the command line itself
[02:57] <Yeahnude> For using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write?
[02:57] <Gaain> Question: Am trying to get into Linux as Ive has enough of the other side, the IT dude at work pointed me towards Ubuntu. I have installed it onto a spare machine but it wont connect to web. I have set the "network settings" to direct internet connection, If I type in my routers ip it will allow me to enter it and it also spots my windows network and I can share files across it. It just will not connect to web. When its "lan'd" it shows up in my router with
[02:58] <s1gnAl> foxiness: I like the idea of root being disabled, BUT, they really should include a menu or something to enable root permissions temporarily for applications that need them(editing files for example)
[02:58] <draken> cn someone tell me a simple way to mount ntfs, maybe through samba or something
[02:58] <shreevatsa> I know this sounds stupid, but is it possible to find out what soundcard I have?
[02:58] <garrut> Gaain try going to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:58] <redhook> shreevatsa: lspci
[02:59] <foxiness> s1gnAl, indeed, not every one know about nautilus
[02:59] <foxiness>  than how he will do this on easy way
[02:59] <Syche> lspci |gp audio
[02:59] <[nige] > okay
[02:59] <Syche> oops
[02:59] <[nige] > i have X running again
[02:59] <Yeahnude> For using System Tools. Login as root in terminal and write??  "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller"
[03:00] <s1gnAl> draken: I believe you can mount an NTFS share by using mount -t ntfs /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/path, check the man pages
[03:00] <redguy|work> !ntfs
[03:00] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:01] <foxiness> s1gnAl, sure it good to disable but must be something around this like create vm or virtual filesystem on space of user i dont know but must have an idea for this
[03:01] <s1gnAl> foxiness: lol, I just got a crash course in nautilus myself, I am a longtime Gentoo user and things are a little different here
[03:01] <Syche> [nige]  : And once you get to sudo module-assistant a-i fglrx, dont follow the next step. Instead change ati to fglrx in your xorg.conf
[03:01] <s1gnAl> afk, coffee time
[03:02] <draken> how do i check all my hdds again
[03:02] <draken> like there space and names
[03:02] <[nige] > hmm okay
[03:02] <[nige] > i will do that
[03:02] <[nige] > :)
[03:02] <[nige] > running through a few things now
[03:02] <foxiness> draken, df -h
[03:02] <draken> how do i check all my hdds again, like there info
[03:02] <[nige] > Syche, do i need to recopile the kernel for this
[03:02] <Syche> no
[03:02] <[nige] > i have never before done that
[03:03] <foxiness> draken, or form menu system mintor
[03:03] <Syche> don't worry about that
[03:03] <draken> err fox, it doesnt have my ntfs drive there ?
[03:03] <CodyDH> Hi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?
[03:03] <Gaain> garrut: It the browser title bar read "Canonical Ltd" , loading bar gets to about 1/3 across and thats it. No other software running but XP, Mirc and Ubuntu and Mozilla. Strating to point towards DNS settings is it?
[03:04] <foxiness> draken, fdisk -l
[03:04] <[nige] > oh
[03:04] <redguy|work> Gaain: seems so
[03:04] <rod> hi
[03:04] <[nige] > you might know this, how do I set the resolution to be used in my shell screen?
[03:04] <Syche> [nige]  : I'll be gone for an hour or so. Send me a PM about what hapened ;)
[03:04] <[nige] > no worries
[03:04] <[nige] > :)
[03:04] <rod> using dapper i  get this error
[03:04] <rod> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/openoffice.org2-core_2.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:04] <rod> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:04] <[nige] > cheers for ththat
[03:05] <rod> how to get around this, please?
[03:05] <Gaain> My other concern is why is the Unbuntu machine spoof my other machines host name althoug it has a different IP and mac
[03:05] <redguy|work> !tell rod about pastebin
[03:05] <draken> omfg
[03:05] <[nige] > rod you do and apt-get -f package...that will force the install
[03:05] <draken> i cant take this no root shit
[03:05] <CodyDH> draken: so enable the root account
[03:05] <[nige] > but you probably dont want to do that, if there is mismatch with the md # it could be a damaged package
[03:05] <draken> how ?
[03:05] <shreevatsa> draken: sudo passwd
[03:05] <CodyDH> draken: sudo passwd
[03:05] <s1gnAl> draken: it takes some getting used to
[03:05] <draken> no, i want to login with root
[03:05] <Seveas> draken, then enable the root account and let sudo ask for the root password...
[03:05] <draken> not sudo
[03:05] <s1gnAl> I had the same gripes
[03:06] <Seveas> !tell draken about root
[03:06] <shreevatsa> draken: Do it once
[03:06] <draken> no
[03:06] <Seveas> read that wikipage, it tells it all
[03:06] <s1gnAl> but I think it is actually better without it
[03:06] <draken> i cant do anything in the gui
[03:06] <draken> everywhere i go, no root
[03:06] <shreevatsa> draken: You only have to do "sudo passwd" once to enable a root account
[03:06] <draken> shreevatsa: , i want to LOGIN with root
[03:06] <s1gnAl> draken: there is a simple solution to that, I just ran into that same issue
[03:06] <draken> wat slgn?
[03:06] <redguy|work> draken: login with root and use a gui? eek!
[03:06] <shreevatsa> *shudder*
[03:07] <rod> [nige] , no - while usign -f it will still check the md5 sum which is incorrect and so the install fails
[03:07] <rod> How to install ubuntu-desktop, but without openoffice then?
[03:07] <Gaain> Whats the LINUX cmd for ipconfig please?
[03:07] <[nige] > hmmm
[03:07] <Seveas> Gaain, ifconfig
[03:07] <mjr> ifconfig
[03:07] <[nige] > i am not sure
[03:07] <[nige] > try the man page on apt-get
[03:07] <[nige] > :)
[03:07] <s1gnAl> draken: open a console, and sudo the app you want to run from there, for example, for file browser with root permissions, type sudo nautilus&
[03:07] <Gaain> ta
[03:07] <draken> wtf
[03:08] <s1gnAl> or you can go to applications->system tools->run as different user
[03:08] <Seveas> foxiness, because you are configuring interfaces, not the IP protocol...
[03:08] <redguy|work> rod: maybe it was downloaded incorrectly, look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the openoffice .deb, delete it and apt-get it again
[03:08] <[nige] > try apt-get install --force-yes package i guess
[03:09] <Yeahnude> Seveas have u time to help my problem. I want to use system tools with my account admin
[03:09] <foxiness> Seveas, thank you to let me know about it
[03:09] <redguy|work> rod: or you could do an apt-get clean perhaps, but this will wipe all archives from /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:09] <[nige] > sorry its apt-get install package --force-yes
[03:09] <draken> s1gnAl:
[03:09] <CodyDH> How do I disable mouse gestures in FireFox?
[03:09] <[nige] > although it could render your system useless
[03:09] <redguy|work> Yeahnude: is the user in the 'admin' group?
[03:09] <shreevatsa> Why is it so impossible to get sound to work properly on Linux?
[03:09] <draken> now it tunes i cant take shit off my ntfs drive
[03:09] <draken> access denied
[03:09] <rod> ok redguy|work ill try... but i must say it downloads the package everytime, is doesnt seem to use the cached one... Will try though, gimme a sec ;)
[03:09] <CodyDH> draken: The best solution is to copy the stuff to your Linux partition
[03:10] <ompaul> shreevatsa, is it not, as a matter of interest what kind of sound card are you using
[03:10] <CodyDH> draken: So your applications can work with the files properly.
[03:10] <redguy|work> draken: why won't you rad the stuff we ask you to read?
[03:10] <redguy|work> !tell draken about ntfs
[03:10] <s1gnAl> draken: is it a protected volume? i.e., are you trying to copy from an unshared folder?
[03:10] <shreevatsa> ompaul: lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[03:10] <draken> no
[03:10] <draken> its fine i got that working
[03:10] <gunfus> I managed to install ubuntu but all I ahve is the console login
[03:10] <draken> but dont u find it fucking dumb if u cant do anything ?
[03:10] <draken> without sudo
[03:10] <draken> i mean god
[03:10] <gunfus> no graphical interface.
[03:11] <CodyDH> draken: So enable su!
[03:11] <CodyDH> draken: There is a solution, if you're yelling you wont' find it.
[03:11] <Malachi> draken: Please, refrain from the language.
[03:11] <s1gnAl> draken: I agree, but I also like the idea of root being disabled, just a different way of doing things
[03:11] <Yeahnude> Best way to use system tools s1gnAl
[03:11] <Yeahnude> ?
[03:11] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Should I use esd, alsa, arts, oss, .... what?
[03:11] <s1gnAl> this is undoubtedly the best distro I have used by far, and I have been linuxing since '97
[03:12] <nandro> how do I get folders on the network to show up in apps like bit torrent?  I can only see local folders when it asks me where I want to save
[03:12] <redguy|work> draken: I can do lot's of things without sudo, maybe there's something wrong with your install
[03:12] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: what are you trying to do?
[03:12] <gunfus> hwo do I get the graph interfance
[03:12] <gunfus> and where all my applications?
[03:12] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl use all of my system tools
[03:12] <Syche> shreevatsa: my laptop has the same chipset and sound works fine here
[03:12] <gunfus> I don't get ubuntus
[03:12] <ompaul> shreevatsa, alsa is always good, that card uses the i810_audio and ac97_codec -modules
[03:12] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl its said child 1 terminated
[03:12] <Syche> bothe out of the box and my compiled kernel too
[03:13] <shreevatsa> ompaul: what does that mean? Do I have to do something and get i810_audio and ac97_codec modules?
[03:13] <draken> how do i get into network settings via sudo ?
[03:13] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: not sure, what command are you attempting to run?
[03:13] <redguy|work> gunfus: any error messages during the install?
[03:13] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl in the ubuuntu i want to run everything in system_tool
[03:13] <Yeahnude> s
[03:13] <redguy|work> gunfus: you have to give us some information if you want to get help
[03:13] <s1gnAl> draken: it should prompt you
[03:13] <Yeahnude> but it saids i have no permission to htat
[03:13] <ompaul> shreevatsa, the problem with audio is the closed nature of the cards, both of those modules need to be loaded it appears for that card to be happy
[03:13] <draken> s1gnAl: , it asks fr root passowrd, i give it,  nothing unlocks
[03:14] <redguy|work> gunfus: something more informative than 'hwo do I get the graph interfance'
[03:14] <s1gnAl> draken: it will be your normal user password
[03:14] <draken> i know
[03:14] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I didn't know that... how do I load those modules? (or check if they are loaded already)?
[03:14] <draken> it accepts the passwor
[03:14] <draken> but it doesnt work
[03:14] <draken> ffs
[03:14] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl do u know?
[03:14] <Yeahnude> draken we have same problem
[03:14] <gunfus> redguy|work, well I had to skip some steps of the install because it will always hang installing GRUB, so I skipped that and install LILO
[03:15] <draken> i know Yeahnude , and they not listening to us
[03:15] <draken> its like root isnt evne admin
[03:15] <ompaul> shreevatsa, lsmod
[03:15] <s1gnAl> draken/yeahnude: did you guys enable the root account by using sudo passwd root?
[03:15] <Syche> shreevatsa: lsmod |grep snd
[03:15] <gunfus> redguy|work, it is possible that I didn't install all the rest of the apps but I didn't know how to install them and install LILO instead of GRUB
[03:16] <draken> s1gnAl: , i tried, didnt change passwd
[03:16] <draken> its still my user password
[03:16] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl in terminal (logged as root) i have changed my password TWICE
[03:16] <gunfus> redguy|work, the install process would always go automaticly into isntalling GRUB after installing the other apps
[03:16] <shreevatsa> ompaul: There are some lines that say "snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x0", etc.  I read in the wiki yesterday that if you DO enable the root account, it will break many of the gui tools. Let me find the command to disable the root account, brb.
[03:17] <draken> ok thanks
[03:17] <ompaul> shreevatsa, well the second one might do the same job, try loading >>alsamixer<< and see if any of the channels are muted
[03:17] <Yeahnude> Thx
[03:17] <Yeahnude> :D
[03:18] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Actually, sound *is* working for me, except that I sometimes have to ask mplayer to use a different -ao... The problem I'm having right now is that it's not "recognizing" my Line In
[03:18] <hyakuhei> whats the quick way to auto-configure X ?
[03:18] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i love you if u find it
[03:18] <hyakuhei> ie, i want to set up some defaults for a graphics card im swapping in
[03:19] <shreevatsa> That is, I've connected a cassette player to my computer's Line In, and it plays through the speakers, but I can't record it in Audacity
[03:19] <rod> ohhh pls... how to install Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[03:19] <rod>     installed.
[03:19] <nandro> is there a way to make programs see a network folder the same as a local folder?
[03:19] <s1gnAl> draken/yeahnude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f80594
[03:19] <s1gnAl> that whole page is about the use of sudo under ubuntu
[03:20] <ompaul> shreevatsa, well looka to see if it is muted
[03:20] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, are you logged in?
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: And I know I've connected it to Line In, not "Mic" or something, because muting "Line" in alsamixer mutes it
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: No, it plays through the speakers fine
[03:20] <gunfus> redguy|work, yes I am logged into a normal console
[03:20] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I can hear it, change the volume (it's called just "Line" in alsamixer), but I can't record it
[03:20] <Gaain> Does anyone know the sudo password for ubuntu please "passwd" doesnt seem to work?
[03:21] <Gaain> im trying to access netwrok admin
[03:21] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, what does dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop say?
[03:21] <ompaul> shreevatsa, I have no other thoughts on it
[03:21] <hyakuhei> Gaain: the userpassword
[03:21] <gunfus> let em check
[03:21] <delmonico> hi. what packages contains the system configuration applications that Ubuntus GNOME desktop uses? I would like to have them on a kde-ubuntu...
[03:21] <s1gnAl> Gaain: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:21] <giggsey> Gaain: isn't it your password (the user)
[03:21] <hyakuhei> Gaain: for the user calling sudo
[03:21] <redguy|work> gunfus: don't paste it in here, just see if it says that i's installed
[03:21] <Gaain> hang on ill try it
[03:22] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Ok, thanks for being helpful, then.... Do you know any programs for recording audio, BTW?
[03:22] <s1gnAl> afk, more coffee
[03:22] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. thanks for the reminder.. I keep forgeting there is paste.bin
[03:22] <redguy|work> gunfus: I'm assuming that you were installing ubuntu, not kubuntu, xubuntu
[03:22] <gunfus> right.. it was ubuntu
[03:22] <Gaain> hyak. giggsey and signal thanks
[03:23] <redguy|work> gunfus: well? did it say that ubuntu-desktop is not installed?
[03:23] <_draken> err
[03:23] <_draken> can i get that link again
[03:23] <gunfus> sorry the PC was booting
[03:23] <redguy|work> gunfus: or did it display lots of stuff
[03:23] <_draken> my other linux program just cut in, where the screen starts corrupting and them it freezes sig
[03:23] <gunfus>  dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop3
[03:23] <ompaul> shreevatsa, I use my mic in audacity when I want to send complete messages to people like "ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu" and such like :-) if the volume was turned right down on the player would it work with the mic? just another idea - though the power might be too much but hey you never know
[03:24] <s1gnAl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f80594
[03:24] <ompaul> shreevatsa, it could blow the card but that is a chance you have to consider
[03:24] <redguy|work> gunfus: dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <gunfus> redguy|work, the package is not installed and there is no information
[03:24] <shreevatsa> ompaul: OMG, I just realised I'm the most stupid person ever... The input volume was turned down!
[03:24] <s1gnAl> DOH!
[03:24] <shreevatsa> ompaul: I've spent more than three hours trying to "fix" it :(
[03:25] <s1gnAl> shree: lol, it happens man
[03:25] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Stupid me... thanks!
[03:25] <redguy|work> gunfus: ok, we're getting somewhere
[03:25] <gunfus> okay
[03:25] <redguy|work> gunfus: what about dpkg -s ubuntu-base ?
[03:25] <ompaul> shreevatsa, don't be so hard on yourself, leave that job for me }:->
[03:25] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i typed in terminal (logged as root) sudo passwd root
[03:25] <Yeahnude> but when i log in the begininng of ubutu its said. u cant login with root
[03:25] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Ok, go ahead then :) I've wasted enough of your time to justify that ;)
[03:26] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: are you trying to login to the desktop via root?
[03:26] <[nige] > Syche, it has updated it
[03:26] <gunfus> redguy|work, same thing
[03:26] <[nige] > Syche, it seems to be okay now, just have to reconfigure my monitors :)
[03:26] <ompaul> Yeahnude, question have you actually got any worthwhile data on that box, would you consider backing it up reinstalling and working from there?
[03:26] <|Lestat|> is thee any way i can diable modules from starting at boot up? and will that eat less ram if i do remove some? :)
[03:26] <ompaul> Yeahnude, with no messing with root passwords :-)
[03:26] <|Lestat|> er disable modules
[03:26] <shreevatsa> ompaul: Anyway, you're saying that alsa has no problems at all?
[03:27] <s1gnAl> I agree with ompaul
[03:27] <redguy|work> gunfus, ok then. Do you have the install CD in your CDROM drive?
[03:27] <sunsun> hi
[03:27] <s1gnAl> may solve a lot of your problems
[03:27] <sunsun> nalioth, are you here?
[03:27] <gunfus> redguy|work, no.. but I am putting in right now
[03:27] <gunfus> redguy|work, done
[03:27] <redguy|work> gunfus: if not, put it in, and run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <sunsun> i have reinstalled my win  partition and its overidden grubloader 1.5, how do i get the grubloader to go??>
[03:28] <redguy|work> gunfus: it will ask for your password and should install the missing stuff
[03:28] <visik7> sunsun: livecd->grub
[03:28] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. let me try that
[03:28] <ompaul> shreevatsa, no, it is not that alsa is without fault, it is that it is good, and what is even more fun sound will always be a pain as long as sound card makers insist on making their work closed
[03:28] <napstar567> hey guys, can any one tell me why my: sudo cvs is not responding right
[03:28] <sunsun> viskik7, there is an installer?
[03:28] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[03:28] <sunsun> visik7, or do i do a command on the shell?
[03:28] <ompaul> Susana, the man is ZZZZZ
[03:28] <s1gnAl> napstar: what command are you trying to execute and what is the error message you are getting?
[03:29] <visik7> sunsun: run grub from a shell
[03:29] <sunsun> visik7, what is the command??
[03:29] <napstar567> cvs: command not found
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. well it is trying to install it.. ohh by the way.. I didn't need the CD I configure it to get it from FTP
[03:29] <sunsun> visik7, just run grubloader 1.5???
[03:29] <MarcN> napstar567: seems like you need to install cvs...
[03:29] <s1gnAl> napstar: dumb question, but is it installed?
[03:29] <binarydigit> napstar567: you need to install it before you can use it
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, that shouldn't matter
[03:29] <gunfus> redguy|work, either way it should work
[03:29] <napstar567> yea
[03:30] <redguy|work> gunfus: but some of the stuff is on the CD, why waste the bandwidth?
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl yes:P
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl how i login via root?
[03:30] <gunfus> redguy|work, true.. but I want to get the latest stuff
[03:30] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl i want to use system tools
[03:30] <s1gnAl> napstar: check your $PATH variable and make sure the directory CVS is located in is there
[03:30] <napstar567> yea i did install it
[03:30] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: read the wiki, it's in there
[03:30] <napstar567> i will try to reinstall it
[03:30] <napstar567> thanks
[03:31] <binarydigit> napstar567: how did you install it
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: run grub
[03:31] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl whats its call?
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: fron a shell
[03:31] <sunsun> visik7, thanks this will make it permanent?
[03:31] <sunsun> hmm...
[03:31] <s1gnAl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, make note of it, that is the last time I am pasting it
[03:31] <thoeger> Any linux-ppc users in here?
[03:31] <visik7> sunsun: run grub - it will open a shell
[03:32] <visik7> then install grub telling the boot partition and other parameters
[03:32] <sunsun> visik7, now i am loading into the live cd... and going through the process
[03:32] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl im in there, and i have eneble it , but how i login to the desktop ? is the last qauest
[03:32] <redguy|work> gunfus: sure, but most of the stuff in the repositories is the same than the stuff on the CD, ubuntu people put newerversions only if there is a security issue with the older versions
[03:32] <visik7> sunsun: run the command "grub" from the live cd
[03:32] <napstar567> sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:32] <sunsun> i think there is a command to get the shell straight away, do you know what that could be>
[03:32] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: read the page! it's at the bottom on how to enable it
[03:32] <thoeger> Been trying to make firefox or opera running java but with no luck
[03:32] <sunsun> visik7, thks
[03:33] <thoeger> Anyone got in working?
[03:33] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay.. well should I cancel it?
[03:33] <s1gnAl> thoeger: did you install the JVM?
[03:33] <thoeger> Yup
[03:33] <redguy|work> gunfus: no, /me just being informative today :-)
[03:33] <binarydigit> thoeger: did you follow the instructions on the wiki
[03:33] <thoeger> s1gnAl : IBM java 1.4.2 and 1.5 beta
[03:34] <s1gnAl> thoeger: any reason why you didn't use Sun's JVM?
[03:34] <sunsun> visik7, it does not work... what is the command?
[03:34] <thoeger> binarydigit:  Yeah, running java -showversion runs fine
[03:34] <Zambba> I downloaded Ubuntu for PPC and it doesn't boot in my PowerMac. What's wrong?
[03:34] <thoeger> I'm on ppc
[03:34] <sunsun> hey guys, what is the command to get grubloader 1.5 again?
[03:34] <s1gnAl> ahh ok
[03:34] <gunfus> redguy|work, okay thanks
[03:34] <binarydigit> thoeger: did you copy the plugins into the firefox plugin folder
[03:34] <binarydigit> like the wiki said
[03:34] <visik7> sunsun: the command is grub and a grub-shell should open
[03:35] <draken> im using KDE ppl, and sometimes out of no where, the screen starts to corrupt and go green,yellow,brown and then everything freezes but mouse
[03:35] <draken> then i got to reboot, but that be video drivers ?
[03:35] <thoeger> binarydigit: Yup. Makes firefox crash everytime I try testing it on javatester.org and sun's test page.
[03:35] <Yeahnude> !tell kubuntu
[03:35] <s1gnAl> draken: did you have any previous hardware issues?
[03:35] <redguy|work> draken: or the video hardware?
[03:35] <draken> nope
[03:35] <draken> working all fine in windows
[03:36] <sunsun> visik7, i am in terminal... on ubuntulive and the grub shell isnt opening
[03:36] <s1gnAl> draken: what card do you have?
[03:36] <sunsun> visik7, so what should i do
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: oh
[03:36] <draken> geforce 6600gt
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: mount the partition
[03:36] <thoeger> s1gnAl & binarydigit: Might it be a problem that I run a home-compiled FF 1.5 instead of the 1.0.7 in the breezy repos?
[03:36] <s1gnAl> draken: pci-e or AGP?
[03:36] <visik7> sunsun: and chroot in it
[03:36] <draken> agp
[03:37] <Yeahnude> What is kubuntu?`
[03:37] <s1gnAl> thoeger: could be, try a ubuntu built binary
[03:37] <binarydigit> thoeger: i feel like it may have something to do with you not using suns JVM
[03:37] <Yeahnude> !tell kubuntu
[03:37] <Mabus06> how do I get two monitos to work with m radeon x700 pro
[03:37] <binarydigit> but i dont know
[03:37] <draken> so s1gnAl , could it be drivers? im downloading latest atm
[03:37] <Riddell> !kubuntu
[03:37] <ubotu> methinks kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:37] <s1gnAl> drakenL: you can try that, if it ends up not being that, Im not sure really
[03:37] <visik7> sunsun: do you got it ?
[03:38] <sunsun> visik7, what is the command to mount the partition?
[03:38] <draken> k s1gnAl
[03:38] <thoeger> binartydigit: there are reports on a working ibm/firefox thingie... Just hoped it would work.
[03:38] <visik7> sunsun:  -.-
[03:38] <visik7> sunsun: mount ???
[03:38] <sunsun> then >
[03:38] <sunsun> ??
[03:38] <sunsun> how to schroot>
[03:38] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl Enabling graphical root login - THen i must USE the Adminstration BUT i CANT if I dont are logged as ROOT
[03:39] <visik7> sunsun: mount -t <filesystem> <partition> <mountpoint>
[03:39] <visik7> sunsun: for a better explaination man mount
[03:39] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: I am out of options, I would say your best bet would be to re-install at this point
[03:39] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) < How CAN i do that without be logged root
[03:39] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl why reinstall+
[03:40] <thoeger> s1gnAl, binarydigit : thanx for the support anyway :-)
[03:40] <s1gnAl> because it will solve your problems unless you are willing to dig into it and fix it
[03:40] <binarydigit> no prob
[03:40] <s1gnAl> anytime thoeger
[03:40] <sunsun> visik7, i dont know the filesystem's name..
[03:40] <sunsun> yikes
[03:40] <visik7> sunsun: the filesystem type
[03:40] <sunsun> how do i find that
[03:40] <visik7> ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs, and so on
[03:40] <Kindred> 4.10?..
[03:41] <sunsun> ohh... yes. hmm, i think its ext3
[03:41] <sunsun> i dont know the partition name...  for hoary
[03:41] <thoeger> another thing to the house, I've been asking this before... Anyone got an idea why gdesklets and stellarium crash my Xorg? It's not like it's one single desklet; just wiped my .gdesklets dir and it still kills it running gdesklets from the main menu
[03:41] <Yeahnude> s1gnAl but cant you only say HOW i log in via root to dekstop ..? Or how i Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup (Actions --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup in Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)) do that without permission in dekstop?
[03:41] <omfg> arg
[03:42] <omfg> draken here, it crashed again
[03:42] <s1gnAl> yeahnude: search the forums, I don't know
[03:42] <omfg> u see s1gnAl, draken here, it crashed again
[03:42] <dsp2> who can help me with just a little problem here?
[03:42] <omfg> i thought linux was ment to be stable erf
[03:43] <thoeger> whatta ya mean omfg ?
[03:43] <s1gnAl> omfg: not sure man
[03:43] <omfg> thoeger, ill be sitting in the GUI, then shit for start corrupting, thene verything freezes
[03:44] <omfg> mouse can move, but everything is stuck
[03:44] <Gaain> can any one through me a random ip address for a website please not the name (bbc or something) if trying to sus wether it is a dns setting not allowing my www.google.com homepage to connect. Thanks
[03:44] <thoeger> omfg, that's even *very* stable I'd say... ;-)
[03:44] <[nige] > omfg,  have you checked your messages
[03:44] <s1gnAl> omfg: are you overclocking?
[03:44] <[nige] > omfg, as in /var/log/messages?
[03:45] <omfg> err let me look
[03:45] <omfg> s1gnAl no
[03:45] <[nige] > that should give you some clue as whats going on :)
[03:45] <kestas> what do you mean shit for start corrupting?
[03:45] <kestas> and does it crash on windows?
[03:46] <s1gnAl> I want to beautify my gnome desktop, anyone got any theme/wallpaper suggestions?
[03:46] <omfg> my windows is 1005
[03:46] <omfg> my windows is 100%
[03:46] <omfg> [nige]
[03:46] <omfg> Dec 30 16:38:03 Draken kernel: [  777.667153]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.
[03:46] <thoeger> s1gnAl, What kinda themes du you like?
[03:46] <omfg> is last thing
[03:46] <[nige] > hmm
[03:46] <[nige] > okay
[03:46] <[nige] > so it locks up
[03:46] <s1gnAl> thoeger: just looking for something cool, I like sci-fi, nature, and computer stuff
[03:46] <[nige] > you restart and it seems okay
[03:46] <[nige] > ?
[03:46] <omfg> ya
[03:47] <omfg> then it might work for 20mins no prob then mess up
[03:47] <omfg> might mess up as i get in
[03:47] <[nige] > hmm
[03:47] <[nige] > check your cpu temp
[03:47] <[nige] > or even your hdd
[03:47] <thoeger> s1gnAl, my fav icon theme is nuoveXT, dunno if thats anything for you
[03:47] <[nige] > sounds more like a hardware error to me than a linux on
[03:47] <[nige] > e
[03:47] <omfg> all that stuff is fine
[03:47] <omfg> i been running windows for months on this pc
[03:47] <s1gnAl> thoeger: where can I find it?
[03:47] <[nige] > so what are you been doing on the pc?
[03:47] <thoeger> that and digital-perfaction GTK and Met makes my evolution look like...
[03:47] <[nige] > do you have any weird usb devices attached to it
[03:47] <CodyDH> Hi! What does ubuntu use, when you're on a laptop, to automatically scale the CPU speed to what is best for what you're doing (Intense activity = 2GHz, web browsing = 600MHz)?
[03:47] <[nige] > like usb network cables?
[03:48] <omfg> i have psp usb cable
[03:48] <omfg> but its not plugged into psp
[03:48] <Seveas> CodyDH, powernowd or cpufreq
[03:48] <thoeger> s1gnAl, gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org are your friends... :)
[03:48] <[nige] > CodyDH,  sounds like its wants to save power longer batteries
[03:48] <[nige] > hmm
[03:48] <s1gnAl> Im there now ;)
[03:48] <[nige] > weird psp thin aye...
[03:48] <CodyDH> Seveas: Which does it use by default?
[03:48] <Seveas> depends on the cpu :)
[03:48] <[nige] > does did it crash last time it was plugged in
[03:49] <[nige] > or was it crashing prior it being plugged in
[03:49] <CodyDH> Seveas: Pentium M 2nd gen
[03:49] <st3f> what wm do u guys use?
[03:49] <omfg> its always been plugged in
[03:49] <CodyDH> st3f: gnome
[03:49] <gunfus> redguy|work, after downlading everything
[03:49] <[nige] > okay
[03:49] <Seveas> CodyDH, cpufreq it is
[03:49] <omfg> im downloading my motherboard+gfx card drivers for linux now
[03:49] <omfg> maybe that will fix
[03:49] <[nige] > plug it in now
[03:49] <gunfus> redguy|work, will it change my init to 5
[03:49] <gunfus> ?
[03:49] <kane77> hi, can anyone help me to set up program so it would start automatically on system startup....
[03:49] <[nige] > if it does i would say its probably the usb thingo
[03:49] <CodyDH> Seveas: OK... Thanks (I'm now using Fedora and want to implement that as well :))
[03:49] <[nige] > i know it  dided on a few of my usb devices
[03:49] <[nige] > like usb network cards etc.
[03:50] <Yeahnude> Seveas do u know how i login or change so i can login to the desktiop with root.. i have (sudo passwd root) already
[03:50] <thoeger> kane77, go to desktop preferences -> sessions
[03:50] <erUSUL> kane77, whaen you log in gnome or during init
[03:50] <kane77> thoeger: thanx...
[03:50] <thoeger> kane77, anytime ...
[03:51] <cdtbud> if i've got mysql4.1 what the apt-get command to upgrade it to 5?
[03:51] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, not a wise idea. use root only when indispensable. login as root is not a good idea
[03:51] <kane77> thoeger: I think I can go on from here...
[03:51] <thoeger> kane77, yup, it's pretty self-explaining from there
[03:52] <Gaain> Right. My Ubuntu connection will resolve IP addresses such as <IP_ADDRESS> (bbc.co.uk), but not www.bbc.co.uk. I can browse my windows network and access my router (DLINK_) through the network . ANyone nknow what I need to change to get Ubuntu to resolve the typed addresses at the moment everything is set to AUTO, DHCP and such??????
[03:52] <kestas> cdtbud, well if the current version of ubuntu doesn't have that version then you'll have to wait, or compile it yourself
[03:52] <Falstius> is there a tool for adding and removing scripts from runlevels?  The admin->services app is pretty worthless.
[03:52] <cdtbud> ah thanks hadnt thought of that
[03:52] <gaz> Hang on mu IRC has juct connected
[03:53] <kestas> Falstius, you could always do it manually
[03:53] <Yeahnude> erUSUL i want to login as root
[03:53] <gaz> and im now reading my other login as gaain
[03:53] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, why?
[03:53] <CodyDH> Seveas: another question... what would be a command or program I could run that would produce enough activity to full throttle the CPU?
[03:53] <Yeahnude> erUSUL change system tools
[03:53] <redguy|work> Falstius: update-rc.d
[03:53] <Falstius> kestas: yes, but then I have to manually check dependencies too.  And check each run level, yada yada.  I'd like a chkconfig analog.
[03:53] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, ??
[03:53] <kestas> CodyDH, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null
[03:54] <Seveas> kestas, you read my mind :)
[03:54] <CodyDH> And would a Control-C stop that?
[03:54] <kestas> Seveas, :)
[03:54] <Seveas> CodyDH, yes
[03:54] <gaz> Still wont connect to any www.XXXX>com though
[03:54] <CodyDH> Strange
[03:54] <CodyDH> I have a little gnome applet that tells me what speed my CPU is at... it says 600MHz... and I can't get that to change. And as far as I can tell I'm running cpufreqd.
[03:54] <Yeahnude> erUSUL adminstrativ tools
[03:54] <thoeger> btw; at gnome login i get a warning that my $HOME/.dmrc has wrong permission and ownership... I changed it once but changed it back to 644.
[03:54] <CodyDH> But then again, it's not really your guys' job to support Fedora, is it :)
[03:55] <Seveas> gaz, the built-in porn filter will not allow xxx.com ;)
[03:55] <gaz> lol,
[03:55] <thoeger> Cant get rid of the warning though... Any idea how I can ?
[03:55] <Seveas> CodyDH, correct, try #fedora :)
[03:55] <gaz> www.anything.com
[03:55] <jk-> does anyone have a file: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gdk-pixbuf-2.0.pc ??
[03:55] <CodyDH> Thanks for the help, guys!
[03:55] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, you can do this with sudo (sudo -i)
[03:55] <omfg> wats a text editor in linux called ?
[03:55] <thoeger> omfg: a text editor....
[03:56] <[nige] > vi
[03:56] <[nige] > vim
[03:56] <omfg> gedit doesnt work
[03:56] <[nige] > nano
[03:56] <erUSUL> omfg, emacs ;)
[03:56] <omfg> ta
[03:56] <[nige] > pico
[03:56] <[nige] > :)
[03:56] <Belutz> lol
[03:56] <Stew_Lappy> joe is a good one
[03:56] <thoeger> nano
[03:56] <thoeger> nedit
[03:56] <thoeger> omfg: whats the prob w gedit?
[03:56] <Belutz> notepad.exe with wine :p
[03:56] <Belutz> j/k
[03:57] <Falstius> redguy|work: thanks.  That is what I was looking for.
[03:57] <thoeger> omfg: Gobby for collaborative editing
[03:57] <omfg> thoeger, i type gedit, nothing happens
[03:57] <omfg> :
[03:57] <thoeger> omfg: strange
[03:58] <Seveas> !editor
[03:58] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Seveas
[03:58] <visik7> is there a backport of kde 3.5 for breezy somewhere ?
[03:58] <Seveas> !you broken
[03:58] <ubotu> Eep! *crash*
[03:58] <Seveas> !kde35
[03:58] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:58] <thoeger> !editor
[03:58] <Seveas> dang
[03:58] <Seveas> visik7, see kubuntu.org
[03:58] <redguy|work> visik7: http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9
[03:59] <redguy|work> visik7: see the topic in #kubuntu
[03:59] <visik7> ook
[03:59] <visik7> thanks
[04:00] <gunfus> redguy|work, will it change my init to 5
[04:00] <gunfus> redguy|work, after downlading everything
[04:00] <redguy|work> gunfus: hrm, the best bet would be a reboot
[04:00] <oddflux> I'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?
[04:00] <thoeger> s1gnAl: still there?
[04:01] <redguy|work> gunfus: you should be in runlevel 5 anyway
[04:01] <rev> can someone tell me how to setup sata disks? I do not get any block device
[04:02] <Kindred> sometimes my programs just close without warning or error, happens maybe two or three times a day (12 hrs use though.. :) is this just me?
[04:02] <Yeahnude> erUSUL what can i do with sudo -i then?
[04:02] <Joe444444444> hey guys, does anyone know how i can read a windows partition through ubuntu?
[04:02] <gunfus> okay
[04:03] <erUSUL> Yeahnude, you get a root shell
[04:03] <oddflux> Joe444444444 uh what?
[04:03] <oddflux> I'm trying to make a prxy server in ubuntu... any docs that could hlep with that?
[04:03] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowdrives
[04:03] <thoeger> Joe444444444: you should be able to just mount it and read it I think...
[04:03] <Gaain> No one able to help with DNS issue then! :-(
[04:03] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell Joe444444444 about windowsdrives
[04:03] <erUSUL> rev, what controler and disk?
[04:04] <thoeger> Kindred: No it's not just you....
[04:04] <oddflux> ubotu,tell oddflux about proxyservers
[04:04] <rev> erUSUL: one maxtor disk and SiI 3112
[04:04] <oddflux> ubotu,tell oddflux about proxy servers
[04:04] <Joe444444444> ok, im running 5.10 64 bit, but it isnt automatically set , like it tells me i dont have premission or something
[04:04] <oddflux> grr.'
[04:05] <erUSUL> rev, do not you get /dev/sda block device?
[04:05] <Joe444444444> and ubuntu can read ntfs?
[04:05] <Kindred> thoeger, yeah, hmm.. oh well.
[04:05] <redguy|work> !tell Joe444444444 about ntfs
[04:05] <rev> erUSUL: yup, not device ...but i've got /dev/dm/0 1 and 2... but I dont know what that is
[04:06] <mjr> read sure, write no
[04:06] <Joe4> ty, and fat 32?
[04:06] <rob_p> oddflux:  What purpose do you have in mind for running a proxy server?
[04:06] <erUSUL> rev, this are block devices handled with lvm. i do not use lvm so i do not know...
[04:06] <rev> erUSUL: me neither, but they are there :)
[04:07] <oddflux> rob_p, does that matter? is it in someway relevant?
[04:07] <visik7> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings is enough to get kubuntu on ubuntu ?
[04:08] <rob_p> oddflux:  Yes.  Depending on what you are trying to accomplish will determine what advice one offers you...
[04:08] <rev> erUSUL: sata_sil and libata are loaded http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376
[04:08] <[nige] > fnite all
[04:08] <[nige] > gnite rather
[04:09] <rob_p> oddflux:  For instance, if you're looking for an anonymizing proxy, privoxy is good.  If you need a full-blown caching proxy to serve multiple clients, you might want to use squid... stuff like that.
[04:09] <oddflux> i see, proxys are used for anonmity and this is for aasmall network
[04:10] <erUSUL> rev, use /dev/dm/* if /dev/sd* are not aviable
[04:10] <guillaume> hey guys
[04:10] <oddflux> forgive me.. BitchX sucks.
[04:10] <rob_p> oddflux:  Is caching important to you?
[04:10] <oddflux> fbsd.
[04:10] <oddflux> brb
[04:10] <guillaume> gotta prob wit firefox 1.5
[04:10] <oddflux> yeah, i'll get squid..
[04:10] <guillaume> doesn't launch
[04:11] <Epsilon> I need some help!
[04:11] <rev> erUSUL: I get 3 devices in /dev/dm ...that disk is unformatted...which one should I use? and why do I not get /dev/sd* ?
[04:11] <greenpenguin13> Epsilon: this is the right place
[04:11] <rob_p> oddflux:  For squid, the trickiest part is setting up the ACL(s).  Other than that, it comes up running pretty easily.
[04:12] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[04:12] <Epsilon> Yes I know
[04:12] <oddflux> There is documentation on it isnt there
[04:12] <Epsilon> My mp3 player is wierd
[04:12] <Epsilon> I used to have Windows
[04:12] <Epsilon> and I put music on
[04:12] <Epsilon> now when I plug it into linux
[04:12] <Epsilon> the music doesn't show up
[04:12] <erUSUL> rev, i do not know :(. You should get the /dev/sd* devices. do you see something in the dmesg?
[04:13] <rob_p> oddflux:  Yes.  Google will turn up numerous how-to type docs.  However, the config file for squid is documented quit will (maybe too well) :-)
[04:13] <erUSUL> Epsilon, creative?
[04:13] <rev> erUSUL: only these lines http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376
[04:13] <rob_p> oddflux:  Man, I can't type today!
[04:13] <Epsilon> no
[04:13] <Epsilon> SanDisc
[04:13] <foxiness> is there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch type
[04:14] <Epsilon> SanDisk*
[04:14] <oddflux> There is documentation on it isnt the:)
[04:14] <oddflux> uh
[04:14] <oddflux> i hate bitchx
[04:14] <oddflux> i can't type ether
[04:14] <thoeger> can't type ether... :-D
[04:14] <redguy|work> rev: you sure you got everything connected ?
[04:14] <thoeger> Any powerpc users in here? ibook...
[04:15] <chieftain> hi guys ... is it just me and my computer or did the extra repository gone walk about and dissapear??
[04:15] <jdier> Epsilon - are you browsing with a graphical browser or from the command line?  If command line, make sure you are doing an ls -a
[04:15] <rev> redguy|work: controller bios reports the drive correctly
[04:15] <erUSUL> rev, i do not have sata myself so i can not know for sure. do you have any /dev/scsi0 or something?
[04:15] <Gaain> k, got Ubuntu browsing now. Do I need to worry about firewalls, and stuff like adaware etc? Basic stuff but im learning
[04:15] <Epsilon> Graphical browser.
[04:15] <jdier> Epsilen, and if you are using a graphical, make sure you have show hidden files checked.
[04:15] <Epsilon> Yup
[04:15] <Epsilon> I do
[04:15] <Epsilon> and it shows
[04:15] <rev> erUSUL: nope nothing beside that dm thingy
[04:15] <Epsilon> .Trash-henry folder
[04:15] <rob_p> oddflux:  Here's one of many that turned up with a simple search:  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm
[04:15] <Epsilon> and in there
[04:15] <space> windows partitions are not accessible?
[04:15] <Epsilon> is a Media Folder
[04:15] <thoeger> Gaain: what exactly do you thinkof?
[04:16] <Epsilon> where my music used to be.
[04:16] <Gaain> ???
[04:16] <rev> erUSUL: and I cannot unload dm_mod ...it's in use
[04:16] <Epsilon> but nothing is in t here
[04:16] <oddflux> thanks.
[04:16] <oddflux> there are quite a few vulns....
[04:16] <thoeger> Gaain: you asked about adaware and firewalls and so, but I didn't really get what you mean....
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gaain, use firestarter if you feel you need a firewall
[04:16] <jdier> Epsilon - have you tried using a terminal and looking via ls -la or ls -a?
[04:17] <Gaain> Ive read that as Ubuntu has no services (in a windows way) that you do not need to woory about such things
[04:17] <oddflux> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/squid.htm
[04:17] <Epsilon> No, I am very new to Linux, got it yesterday so I have no idea how to work anything.
[04:17] <thoeger> Gaain: True as for adware/spyware
[04:17] <erUSUL> rev, i do not know. sata support in linux is a little bit beta http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[04:17] <ubuntu> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[04:17] <Epsilon> Can one of you PM me and explain how to use termnal to look at my music?
[04:17] <chieftain> is backport and universe repository working for u guys...??
[04:17] <oddflux> bitchx sucks balls.
[04:18] <binarydigit> Epsilon: google basic unix commands
[04:18] <jared2> am I crazy or is nis no longer in the repositories?
[04:19] <chieftain> backport and universe repository is not working for me .. is it working for you?
[04:19] <foxiness> is there a nice applications to use on ubuntu for touch typing ? i see one with kde interface and one on CLI is there one for gnome ?
[04:19] <oddflux> binarydigit, have we met?
[04:19] <rev> erUSUL: I think dm_mod is resposible for this but I dont know how to unload it... well thanks so far :)
[04:19] <binarydigit> oddflux: not that i'm aware of
[04:19] <anir> ./join #ubuntu
[04:19] <erUSUL> rev, np
[04:19] <jared2> chieftain:no
[04:19] <thoeger> Is there a way to tweak the frames around picture previews on my gnome desktop?
[04:19] <chieftain> oh ok .. so it's not me
[04:20] <chieftain> any reason why it's not working
[04:20] <chieftain> do we have to look for different repository?
[04:20] <oddflux> you got o oftc binarydigit?
[04:20] <binarydigit> huh
[04:20] <Gaain> Thanks ill look for firestarter and maybe google for antivirus stuff. This may be unecessary but coming from windows you cant help but worry. Im also looking for CAD stuff and dont mind buying it if any one can point me towards a good piece of software. Thank youall
[04:20] <oddflux> yes, I'm sure we've met.
[04:21] <oddflux> I have an acct on your site.
[04:21] <binarydigit> oftc?
[04:21] <binarydigit> wtf
[04:21] <oddflux> do you go to oftc?
[04:21] <binarydigit> i dont know what that means
[04:21] <oddflux> irc.oftc.org
[04:21] <binarydigit> no
[04:21] <mahangu_> Gaain, you can have it run services (called jobs)
[04:21] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell Gaain about CLI
[04:21] <oddflux> linuxcult..
[04:21] <oddflux> ugh nevermind
[04:22] <binarydigit> oddflux: like i said, we havent met
[04:22] <thoeger> Gaain: the only reason to worry about virus is if you accidentally pass them on to your windows friends
[04:22] <jared2> Gaain: check out System>Help>Ubuntu Starter Guide>Networking> AntiVirus
[04:22] <thoeger> Gaain: well not the only one but...
[04:22] <Gaain> thoeger<< That sound good
[04:23] <oddflux> binarydigit yes... my apologies.
[04:23] <Gaain> Thanks all im learning quickly
[04:23] <jdier> Epsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/  This is a good starting point.  Basically you need to go to the ubuntu menu -> accessories -> then open terminal.  Everything is text from here on out.  You will use commands like cd to change directories and ls to list the directories.  the website I pasted is a good help for getting started.  I am also brand new to linux.  If you want it to all work you are going to have to find some si
[04:23] <jdier> tes were people have posted info and idea on how to do stuff.  forums like these often times assume that you have search places like www.linuxquestions.org to find out if you have a machine/software problem, or if it is just that you do not know how linux works.
[04:23] <thoeger> Gaain: one of the main advantages of linux (Or OS X)...
[04:23] <jared2> Gaain: I just discovered that Starter Guide, It's great.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Gaain: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus#virus
[04:24] <Epsilon> jdier do you have MSN Messenger?
[04:24] <oddflux> Hm.... LinuxLuser still come around
[04:24] <oddflux> or arbshct
[04:25] <thoeger> Epsilon: You better sign u for Jabber soon and never admit using a Microsoft product again ;-)
[04:25] <Gaain> Right im off to read up on some of the basic. Again thank you all
[04:25] <oddflux> How abou tPUtz
[04:25] <thoeger> Gaain: Have fun!
[04:25] <Gaain> Luckily its snowing and ive got nothing better to do
[04:25] <jdier> jdierrandcom is my yahoo id
[04:25] <oddflux> putz
[04:25] <thoeger> Its snowing and I've got a lot better to do but still I'm here...
[04:26] <veriz> anyone know what could be wrong? im in mysql-5.0.16 folder and typing make -> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[04:26] <jdier> epsilon - and jdierrandcom works in gaim.
[04:26] <Epsilon> thoeger why?
[04:26] <sloncho> cheers all. I have installed thin server install of 5.10. Now I want to install and run X server, no gnome, no kde. Just X for one app I need. Which packages I need to install, and how to invoke the "installation" mode so Ubunto helps me to config the X? When I installed full gnome system, I saw in the package list (in synaptic) package named x-server-minimal, which description was that this...
[04:26] <sloncho> ...is the real minimum to run X (which I need). But I can not find this package now through apt-get.
[04:26] <thoeger> Epsilon: Just joking...
[04:26] <jared2> Gaain: where are you
[04:26] <binarydigit> veriz: run ./configure
[04:26] <veriz> i did
[04:26] <thoeger> Epsilon: Microsoft isn't exactly popular among Linux geeks
[04:27] <binarydigit> did it complete succesfully
[04:27] <Gaain> south east UK
[04:27] <binarydigit> without any errors
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: but still cant do make
[04:27] <Epsilon> how dO i go back in terminal?
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: any other ideas?
[04:27] <Gaain> We panic at the first sign of snow
[04:27] <binarydigit> yea, did it complete successfully
[04:27] <thoeger> Epsilon: Its still my main protocol though - only use Jabber to speak to other linux geeks
[04:27] <mahangu_> sloncho, tried apt-cache search?
[04:27] <binarydigit> cause i bet it didnt
[04:27] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain - am in the south east too, not a sign of snow here
[04:27] <thoeger> Gaain: Denmark. We don't panic, but the trains stop instantly....
[04:27] <veriz> binarydigit: checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found
[04:27] <sloncho> mahangu: I did. apt-get search min - no joy
[04:28] <jdier> Epsilon - thoeger is saying that you should get an IM login that is not tied to microsoft.  Yahoo has a great free one and it works well with gaim which is a linux IM program
[04:28] <sloncho> apt-cache ...
[04:28] <binarydigit> veriz: ok so you need that library before you can continue, search for it in synaptic
[04:28] <rod> how to install ubuntu-desktop except for one specific package?
[04:28] <oddflux> rob_p?
[04:28] <veriz> binarydigit: i cant :S im on console only
[04:28] <jdier> Epsilon - http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/#toc6
[04:28] <Gaain> Lappy , each of the country in Kent
[04:28] <Gaain> edge even
[04:28] <thoeger> Jdier & Epsilon : Thanx - sorry
[04:28] <binarydigit> veriz: apt-cache search
[04:28] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain East Sussex
[04:29] <Gaain> Raining though i bet down there
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> yup
[04:29] <Gaain> Eastbourne way
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> closer to Brighton
[04:29] <chieftain> binary:  backport / universe repository's not working .....    any other one that i can add to my list?
[04:29] <Gaain> Hopefully youll get it later, its pretty cool
[04:29] <Stew_Lappy> best thing I did all week was install this distro
[04:29] <kanchana> automatix sucks
[04:30] <kanchana> i tried using it..
[04:30] <kanchana> it installed everything w/o a single error
[04:30] <thoeger> Kancha - anything special or just a statement? :)
[04:30] <rob_p> oddflux:  Sorry... I stepped away for a minute...
[04:30] <Stew_Lappy> I used automatix, worked great for me.
[04:30] <kanchana> now my system is up and running
[04:30] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[04:30] <Gaain> Good xmas then, ive had it for a few weeks but been struggeling to get in on the web, Have finally managed it one I get to grips im  gonna put it on all my machines and bin Micro$oft
[04:30] <oddflux> tis cool... just checkin gif you're still around
[04:31] <kanchana> thoeger.. the maker of automatix shd be knighted for his work and u shd be banned for life from this forum
[04:31] <jared2> Gaain: New York, it's unusual that we don't have snow.
[04:31] <Seveas> automatix should NOT be used, it's crap
[04:31] <Seveas> !automatic
[04:31] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:31] <Seveas> !automatix
[04:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:31] <kanchana> seveas.. u are whats crap..
[04:31] <Remmy> Perhaps a silly question, but where can I find the exact .config for one of the kubuntu supplied kernels?
[04:31] <thoeger> kanchana: ????
[04:31] <Epsilon> I have last question.
[04:31] <Stew_Lappy> Gaain thinking the same, I just grabbed the 64bit live cd to test out my main pc.
[04:31] <veriz> binarydigit: still cant find :S maybe you can help me a bit?
[04:31] <jared2> Stew_Lappy: I live in Brighton -- Brighton Beach, Brooklyn   ;)
[04:31] <Epsilon> I am in a folder
[04:32] <Epsilon> and i said
[04:32] <Epsilon> cd Sansa m250
[04:32] <|Lestat|> can anyone tell me how to stop so many modules from loading when i boot up? (using the default ununtu kernel)
[04:32] <Epsilon> and it said that it wasn't a directory
[04:32] <Epsilon> how do
[04:32] <Epsilon> I cd into the player
[04:32] <Gaain> Yeah I like the fact that the boot cd's including knoppix (soz) appear to ride rough over all Micro$oft security
[04:32] <jared2> Has anyone used NIS on ubuntu?
[04:32] <Stew_Lappy> jared2 hope you are having better weather
[04:32] <thoeger> |Lestat|: sorry...
[04:32] <Gaain> And they generally pick up networks straight away
[04:33] <jdier> Epsilon - you will have to do a cd /
[04:33] <binarydigit> veriz: check the README for the requirements
[04:33] <binarydigit> and install them
[04:33] <Stew_Lappy> this is the first distro that I haven't had to leave to do something in windows with
[04:33] <jdier> Epislon - then a cd /mnt
[04:33] <oddflux> Stew_Lappy  nice
[04:33] <jared2> Gaain: That's because Micro$oft doesn't have security -- Contradiction in terms :)
[04:34] <visik7> why in gnome-terminal ctrl+c doesn't work properly ?
[04:34] <binarydigit> define proper
[04:34] <thoeger> visik7: what do you mean by not properly?
[04:34] <jdier> Epsilon then do an ls to see if your player is there.  when the player is plugged in it will be recognized as a mounted device which means you will find it under /mnt/*something*
[04:34] <visik7> thoeger: when I ping something and then I press ctrl+c doesn't stop
[04:34] <jared2> visik7: It cancels a command that's running, not copy. just different, not broken.
[04:34] <|Lestat|> thoeger: for? :P
[04:34] <jared2> visik7: try right-click
[04:35] <oddflux> ctrl+x
[04:35] <jared2> visik7: That gets me all the time too.
[04:35] <Gaain> Right I must go nice chatting, speak again Gaai
[04:35] <Happuf> Hey can someone tell me how to mount NTFS partition in ubuntu breezy?
[04:35] <thoeger> |Lestat|: For not knowing how to disable your kernel modules.....
[04:35] <Happuf> It didnt auto mount for some reason.
[04:35] <space> I cant mount it either.
[04:35] <visik7> jared2: I want to cancel a program that's running
[04:35] <visik7> jared2: but it copy instead
[04:36] <visik7> I think
[04:36] <jared2> visik7: which terminal prog are you using?
[04:36] <visik7> I don't want to copy btw
[04:36] <thoeger> visik7: you're not holding shift?
[04:36] <space> ah I got it.
[04:36] <space> you have to go into drive manager.
[04:36] <space> Disk manager I mean.
[04:37] <ubuntu> hey, when installing, what exactly does the "linux archive-copier/copy=false" option do?  does it still install everything?
[04:38] <thoeger> Nah.... Bye....
[04:39] <mevvis> http://www.arh.ru/~alexhot/urb/8.htm
[04:40] <rev> erUSUL: I've found the problem... http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Dec/1935.html
[04:40] <visik7> jared2: ping
[04:41] <Hericus> Ladies.
[04:41] <Hericus> Seveas..
[04:41] <Joe4> why cant i run .exe files from  a cd?
[04:42] <Hericus> Joe4, ?
[04:42] <space> lol
[04:42] <Seveas> Joe4, because exe files are for windows
[04:42] <sloncho> if someone have missed or a newcommer can answer: what minimal set of packages I have to install over minimal server instalation in order to have Xserver configured and running. nothing fancy, just X.
[04:42] <Hericus> Joe4, with software such as cedega and wine you may be able to.
[04:43] <Joe4> man, setting all this stuff up for my everything onboard mobo is a pin
[04:43] <Joe4> pain*
[04:43] <Seveas> sloncho, x-windows-system-core
[04:43] <Joe4> i really wich ppl would release more linux drivers
[04:43] <Hericus> Not all of course..
[04:43] <cratel1> how do I set up Breezy so the monitor goes into a power save mode after a certain number of minutes of inactivity? It's not in "screensaver."
[04:43] <Seveas> sloncho, and ubuntu-base is recommended
[04:43] <pashaw> sloncho,   id recommend    server install  then susod apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <Hericus> Seveas, how've you been?
[04:44] <pashaw> sloncho,    xubuntu  is what im using now  its small and rather nice
[04:44] <rod> how to install a meta-package except for one package which is included in that meta package?
[04:44] <Kindred> cratel1, I think it is in the advanced tab in there
[04:44] <Seveas> rod, install all other packages :)
[04:44] <sloncho> Seveas: just dis does not start X. complains for missing drivers, etc.
[04:44] <pjssilva> My desktop becomes very unresposive when I am ripping a DVD or a CD. Is this expected?
[04:44] <Joe4> I have to go through this dsl box, and i have to use the drivers for it, and their all exe
[04:44] <Seveas> sloncho, xorg-driver-*
[04:44] <cratel1> Kindred: not that I can find...
[04:44] <Seveas> find what you need...
[04:44] <pjssilva> rod: install the metapackage and then uninstall the un-wanted package.
[04:45] <sloncho> pashaw: do I have to add additional repository for this? or it is part of the normall install?
[04:45] <flogiston> Where do i install xfce themes?
[04:45] <rod> Seveas, I tried to copy the whole list with packages, exclude that one and then past it back.... But the pasting back - i can't get it in 1 single line, they contain more lines so pasting is not possible
[04:45] <Kindred> cratel1, you have display modes & advanced right?
[04:45] <jono> hi all
[04:45] <sloncho> pashaw: it does not load OO, etc., right?
[04:45] <Seveas> rod, what is the metapackage?
[04:45] <rod> pjssilva, well, that one package won't install (md5 sum error) and that halts the rest of the installation
[04:45] <pashaw> sloncho,   server install  is cd    then xubuntu   uses cd also  but might grab some stuff off  normal repos
[04:46] <rod> the meta package is ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <rod> quite a big one i can say
[04:46] <sloncho> Seveas: thanks, I'll try
[04:46] <jono> has a recent update to breezy made /dev/dsp go away?
[04:46] <Seveas> and which package don't you want?
[04:46] <cratel1> Kindred: I don't think I do. Where is display modes?
[04:46] <sloncho> pashaw: thanks.
[04:46] <Kindred> cratel1, at the top of the screensaver preferences dialog
[04:46] <pjssilva> rod: Try deleting it in /var/cache/apt/archives and download it again.
[04:46] <cratel1> Kindred: it's missing on mine. Is this a separate package that I am missing?
[04:46] <pashaw> sloncho,   not sure   as i changed to xubuntu after gnome made this lappy  crawl
[04:46] <rod> Seveas, I dont want openoffice2-core because after the download that packages gives me a md5 download error  and that halts the installation of the rest of the system
[04:47] <Seveas> rod, that will disable all of openoffice...
[04:47] <rod> Seveas, thats fine
[04:47] <jono> my /dev/dsp has disappeared but when I play something with mplayer it still seems to emit sound - what is wrong?
[04:47] <Seveas> rod, delete the openoffice.org-core .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:47] <Seveas> and retry installing ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <sloncho> pashaw: I need something really thin, as I just want to run MythTV on it. Actually maybe I'll end-up to run it over framebuffer w/o any X. But still think that with X it'll be better.
[04:48] <rod> Seveas, ok they are deleted and then?
[04:48] <pashaw> sloncho,   try xubuntu   if you dont like it  start over
[04:48] <Seveas> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <pjssilva> rod, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <rod> pjssilva, that will download openoffice again and give me that error also again
[04:49] <sloncho> pashaw: ok, I'll  give it a try when I get home
[04:49] <pashaw> sloncho,   this is linux  your not paying to try diff versions like windows :P
[04:49] <rod> pjssilva, i did a apt clean and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop 20 minutes ago
[04:49] <sloncho> :))))
[04:49] <sloncho> yeah, this is 4-th distro to try for MythTV, but looks like it'll fit best :)
[04:50] <jdier> Epsilon - once you get a yahoo or jabber IM login, enter me into your gaim contact list and feel free to ask me questions off line.  I am a newbie too, but when available and able, I am happy to help.
[04:50] <Remmy> jono: All I can say is that mine seemsto have disappeared overnight too
[04:50] <jono> Remmy, oh really?
[04:50] <pjssilva> rod, but the file for openoffice.org-core was corrupted during download. You need to download it again.
[04:50] <flogiston> Where do i extract the xfce themes to use them?
[04:50] <jono> anyone else lose /dev/dsp too?
[04:50] <Kindred> cratel1, http://brandify.com/temp/advanced.jpg - you are missing this?
[04:50] <nix4me> is there an iso of dapper that is after flight 2?  like a nightly build that can be installed?
[04:51] <Remmy> jono: Yes... but I've been messing too much with other things to attribute it to anything in specific, but I didn't do anything consciously to make it go away
[04:51] <rod> pjssilva, well i downloaded it over 10 times already
[04:51] <jono> Remmy, yeah, neither did I
[04:51] <rod> im using Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB]
[04:51] <pjssilva> rod, what repository are you using?
[04:51] <rod> pjssilva, i say you thinking lol
[04:51] <rod> *saw
[04:52] <rod> pjssilva, this is not the specific package giving the error (because that is the core package) but you get the idea
[04:52] <pjssilva> rod, Try the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:52] <cratel1> Kindred: yes. Mine looks completely different. I don't have that "advanced" tab. And I only have 1 screensaver. I also just noticed that ubuntu-desktop is not installed on my system. Perhaps this is part of the problem...
[04:52] <rod> pjssilva, alright, does it go like this then? Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openoffice.org2-common 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 [24.9MB]
[04:52] <rod> the link then i mean...
[04:53] <Kindred> cratel1, hm..
[04:53] <pjssilva> rod, I am not sure what you mean by "link".
[04:53] <cratel1> Kindred: I think I'll install ubuntu-desktop, which includes the xscreensaver, and see if this solves the problem...
[04:54] <rod> pjssilva, nevermind... if apt-get update gives me errors i know ^^
[04:54] <pjssilva> rod, The line in /etc/apt/sources.list should be something like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[04:55] <rod> pjssilva, yeah i had that
[04:55] <rod> pjssilva, i need to re-login because i get an error that says :) Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un
[04:55] <pjssilva> rod, Good luck.
[04:55] <rod> thanks, ill be right back
[04:55] <jared2> How do I type in the Location Bar like System>Help>Starter Guide>Tips&Tricks> #9 says?
[04:56] <Sunn_T> I have been having trouble with my Ubuntu install. I've made 5 copies of the .ISO file.
[04:56] <jared2> can anyone else do that?
[04:56] <pashaw> jared2,    click those menus
[04:56] <pashaw> jared2,   opps your gunna make me that
[04:56] <Sunn_T> When I check the integrity of the CD it says that a file has a checksum error.
[04:57] <jared2> pashaw: ??? did you try it?
[04:57] <trappist> Sunn_T: that's a failed test
[04:57] <Kindred> jared2, Ctrl+L
[04:57] <trappist> Sunn_T: how are you burning it?
[04:57] <Sunn_T> Right. How is it that in 4 out of the 5 CDs that I've made that the same file is corrupted?
[04:58] <jared2> Kindred: Ohhhhhh! They should have mentioned that!
[04:58] <gunfus> how can I modify teh max resolution that gnome uses..?
[04:58] <jared2> Kindred:Thanks.
[04:58] <Kindred> jared2, agreed. :)
[04:58] <teprrr> hmm, looks like X is broken in dapper atm? am I right?
[04:58] <trappist> Sunn_T: could be a hardware problem, but it could also have something to do with the way you're burning
[04:58] <gunfus> The max resolution that I can select is 1024 by 724
[04:58] <gunfus> I want more
[04:58] <gunfus> but is not shown
[04:58] <Sunn_T> I've burned it with NTI CD-Maker Gold, Alcohol 120, and Nero 6.6 .
[04:58] <trappist> Sunn_T: make sure you burn with in dao mode
[04:59] <Seveas> Sunn_T, is the iso ok? Did you burn at low speed?
[04:59] <Sunn_T> I did notice that DAO/TAO was selected... Would DAO alone work better?
[04:59] <jared2> Kindred: can I make it stick that way? It keeps going back.
[04:59] <Sunn_T> I burned at 8x. I think that's the lowest it goes.
[04:59] <trappist> Sunn_T: dao=disc at once and tao=track at once.  you definitely want dao.