[15:01] <gartral> hey all, I have a newly build system here that's exhibiting some really strange behavior.. and it has me worried... the max temp for my CPU, which should be the shutdown temp, is 74c... my cpu just did 10 minutes at 80c with cpuburn, what's the possibility that the modules loaded for temp sensors are wrong/miscalibrated?
[15:01] <d0lph1n98> hi guys, any guide how to build a kernelspace driver for linux based os?
[15:01] <AEL-H> Thanks, this appears to have worked
[15:01] <tonyaldo> is there anything I can do to free my machine from locking up under heavy HD use?
[15:01] <tgm4883> AEL-H: gh0st2k is correct
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> d0lph1n98  how is your question ubuntu related?
[15:03] <d0lph1n98> perhaps anyone have some experience on building driver for ubuntu?
[15:04] <vooze> Is it possible to change unity launcher icon size from terminal?
[15:05] <gh0st2k> tonyaldo, Buy an SSD? :)
[15:06] <OerHeks> vooze, why the hard way, systemsettings > appearance has the setting for that
[15:06] <tonyaldo> gh0st2k, i know :( this laptop is a huge pain to replace parts on you literally have to pry off the keyboard and unscrew about 15 screws
[15:06] <vooze> OerHeks: I know, but my external monitor uses 48, and my laptop uses 38, so I want a quick way to change it, like writing an alias in .bashrc
[15:06] <Nokaji> Hi, I'm looking for a way to restore nautilus windows upon reboot (like how microsoft windows does). Apparently there used to be a 'gnome-session-properties' which did the trick but this was removed in 'gnome 3.12' - I can not find anything in gnome-tweak-tool either.
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> vooze  use dconf-editor to find the entry, then use that entry in a terminal
[15:07] <vooze> MonkeyDust: I cant find it, if so, its not possible?
[15:07] <OerHeks> vooze, it can be done, http://askubuntu.com/questions/519678/unity-14-04-set-launcher-icon-size-via-command-line
[15:09] <vooze> OerHeks: ah there it is, thank you :)
[15:10] <r00ter> anybody here ?
[15:10] <vooze> r00ter: no.
[15:11] <r00ter> how can i mount fat filesystem with dislocker
[15:11] <d0lph1n98> ok guys, my next questions that probably related to ubuntu is where can i get the source code for the driver for example ralink
[15:11] <daftykins> !source
[15:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu and disklocker ...
[15:12] <daftykins> r00ter: what's up with just mounting them directly?
[15:13] <OerHeks> r000t, you mean bitlocker?
[15:14] <dia> d0lph1n98, proably in the kernel source
[15:15] <d0lph1n98> dia: what do you means by kernel source?
[15:16] <dia> d0lph1n98, https://www.kernel.org/
[15:20] <d0lph1n98> hah! i got it. Thanks a lot dia.
[15:20] <dia> yup
[15:22] <Nokaji> anyone tried these hand-held remote controls for PCs? - for emails, web browsers, music players etc - any recommendations on best remote controllers?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> !hardware | Nokaji
[15:23] <Nokaji> Thanks cfhowlett. It's also a LIRC thing and I've seen (somewhere) LIRC compatible devices however non LIRC can be just as good or better, apparently
[15:27] <Knight80> Do you have any idea why I get this message from a python script when I press a button on my tablet to control Ardour?
[15:27] <Knight80> Exception TypeError: "'NoneType' object is not callable" in 'liblo._callback'
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Knight80, python questions?  #python channel
[15:29] <Knight80> cfhowlett Thank you, but I don't have my nickname registered, so I can't send any text to the channel...
[15:29] <daftykins> !register
[15:30] <Knight80> Thank you very much
[15:34] <cobbio> Ubuntu gets unresponsive when I run Spotify and Google Chrome with 8-10 tabs on my thinkpad X220 with 4gbs of ram. Ram usage is around 70%. is this chrome's fault?
[15:35] <OerHeks> depends what is in those tabs, cobbio
[15:36] <Jackevansevo> cobbio: I have the exact same laptop with Xubuntu and everything runs fine, check the system monitor (chrome extensions might be the issue)
[15:36] <cobbio> OerHeks, nothing heavy on resource like ebay pages and reddit etc.
[15:36] <cobbio> Jackevansevo, This problem still remains with Xfce as well.
[15:37] <cobbio> Wondering if I should get more rams
[15:37] <cfhowlett> cobbio, max out the ram.  more ram is never a bad idea.
[15:39] <Jackevansevo> cobbio: well I've got 8gb on my machine but It shouldn't be making that much of a noticeable difference
[15:48] <snowkidind> ok i am having issues getting rails to work on apache (passenger) with ubuntu on a production server (not really its my dev server, but it is serving webpages)
[15:49] <snowkidind> i am pretty sure it has to do with the virtual hosts config
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> snowkidind  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:49] <snowkidind> you think id be better off there?
[15:49] <snowkidind> sounds cool 428 ppl
[16:20] <amoka_s> hi everyone
[16:21] <r00ter> hiii
[16:25] <Idiot_> What the...  Problem with it is a 320*240 resolution. ubuntu forums claims {Alt + Enter = make game fullscreen} works but no joy here.
[16:27] <Idiot_> Are people who are switching from {anything-but-Ubuntu} to Ubuntu at the moment accepted?
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Idiot_, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat.  this channel is for technical support.
[16:27] <Nokaji> don't see why not, they have a newbie section on some forum i recently visited, too
[16:28] <Nokaji> yes, tech only here
[16:28] <Idiot_> That's nice, I guess. Anyway, I'm installing Ubuntu from USB right now, and when I choose the "Try Ubuntu without installing" option, it takes me to a black screen with a flashing underscore/caret.
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Idiot_
[16:29] <haye_> ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAACAQCcNprvogZlR/KF/qZl2xeHFlDG4FQukOHm5n4rrgVe9qJAKxOICDgE6MXmZvcDaIMJgpAfOKd4VUOSdLPXiXH0TG4mCX3+0Y4imWjPXw7Sxgq2iKVdb+IDfi5jr0qwlEyaZZ+8KALfp7zK3ZwgPlYZi44gDev/SHdgYgYrVDLb/0vIJU2t3x3Y5jvFZSEK4yE6IL0xiPjtBuj9NEaBYF5mTO83xFMRwkyKUZOF/XE3uDGf20qU+Pb/aZD5IHiaTQlM2zszonzAUIAWb0TFKjYcf4uJ4NyTLBFDBTziLCqH/KUEMa2zK66Ar+r/5ZSY61AaiD0dhlzOUzY1MX3mHOqZJfJWOcZs9y3S3BtAs4iKVAxg46lt74k
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[16:30] <martysia> I have simple question
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !ask | martinbjeldbak
[16:30] <cfhowlett> martysia, see above
[16:30] <Idiot_> I have Windows right now.
[16:31] <martysia> where can I find .deb files of the network manager?
[16:31] <martysia> for Xubuntu?
[16:31] <martysia> thanks cfhowlett
[16:32] <cfhowlett> martysia, packages.ubuntu.com
[16:35] <martysia> found it
[16:36] <martysia> but still I don't know how to do it
[16:37] <cfhowlett> martysia, what exactly are you attempting?
[16:37] <martysia> I want to download them and then using USb stick transfer them from LM to Xubuntu and install them there
[16:37] <cfhowlett> OK.  and you don't know how to ... what?
[16:38] <Guest45066> 哈喽
[16:39] <martysia> I found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/network-manager/filelist
[16:39] <cfhowlett> !cn | guest45066
[16:39] <martysia> cfhowlett: if I had internet connection on Xubuntu I would use sudo apt-get
[16:39] <cfhowlett> http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[16:40] <Guest45066> OK
[16:42] <Guest45066> I has installed Kali Linux 2.0 on VMwarelast day
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest45066  kali is not supported here
[16:43] <cfhowlett> Guest45066, kali is not ubuntu and is not supported or discussed here.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> !kali | Guest45066
[16:44] <Guest45066> so i also has installed Ubuntu
[16:44] <cfhowlett> Guest45066, lsb_release -a says what?
[16:45] <uio> Hello, would ubuntu run on an old non-PAE Pentium M ?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> uio, ubuntu?  probably not.  lubuntu or xubuntu?  probably.
[16:46] <cfhowlett> uio, note: lubuntu is optimized for older, slower hardware
[16:46] <surgy> hello i have a lubuntu 14.04 pc pentium dual core 3.2 ghz with 1gb ram. flash games on face book are real slow... do you think im running out of ram? or could it be my browser? (using chrome) or flashplugin? also i have the non free flash instaled the games work just slow sometimes
[16:46] <HackerII> uio, just have 2 g of ram and run xubuntu, itl run very nice
[16:46] <uio> cfhowlett: HackerII Thanks for the suggestions - would I run into PAE troubles though ?
[16:46] <cfhowlett> surgy, 1 gig of pretty low for gaming, isn't it?
[16:46] <HackerII> shouldnt
[16:46] <cfhowlett> uio, lubuntu should not have any hiccups
[16:47] <surgy> cfhowlett, its flash games..... they dont take much ram right?
[16:47] <cfhowlett> surgy, they have been known to
[16:48] <surgy> cfhowlett, so throw more at it?
[16:49] <cfhowlett> surgy, I suggest maximum amount of ram you can stuff into a machine but that's just me ...
[16:49] <OerHeks> 1 gb is bare minimum for chrome, and flashgame on top of that
[16:51] <nith1210> Does anyone know how to force ifup/ifdown to accept that an iface is up on boot (because initramfs sets it up)?
[16:51] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: I thought we didn't build non-PAE kernels anymore
[16:51] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is optimized for old/slow hardware tgm4883
[16:52] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[16:53] <cfhowlett> good find OerHeks !
[16:53] <tgm4883> OerHeks: yes, I'm reading that. Specifically "Lubuntu and Xubuntu offered a PAE and a non-PAE release up to and including 12.04, but from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained."
[16:53] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: ^
[16:53] <OerHeks> jups, 12.04
[16:53] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, 12.04 is still supported
[16:53] <steven__> can anyone help me with a technical problem concerning xubuntu?
[16:54] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: yes it is
[16:54] <nith1210> !ask | steven__
[16:54] <cfhowlett> !ask | Steven-,
[16:54] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: but only on xubuntui8
[16:54] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: xubuntu, not lubuntu
[16:55] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, so I see.
[16:55] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: actually, no, neither are supported
[16:55] <steven__> ok. problem is i installed xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  My firefox browser freezes.. when i use windows 7 it works fine.
[16:55] <ioria> Fake Pae
[16:56] <steven__> my mouse freezes and then horizontal lines come.
[16:56] <OerHeks> hmm 9W .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w
[16:56] <Steven-> lol
[16:56] <Steven-> ok
[16:56] <steven__> it happens on linux mint, ubuntu, and xubuntu.. but not with chrome
[16:57] <Limberian> 'sup fellas?
[16:57] <chrisss123456> Limberian: nm u?
[16:57] <chrisss123456> anyone here use calendar-app?
[16:57] <Limberian> chrisss123456, Nm, too.
[16:57] <Limberian> Does anyone know any plugin for any browser that deletes history automatically by every hour?
[17:00] <OerHeks> !info rednotebook
[17:00] <chrisss123456> Limberian: there's "No History" in chrome, which is apparently inspired from a feature in Firefox, if that helps. Don't think it allows a 1 hour "cache" though...
[17:00] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: is that a reply to my question?
[17:00] <OerHeks> " there's "No History" in chrome"  ????
[17:00] <pauljw> Limberian, why not use firefox's private tab function and not have any history kept to begin with
[17:00] <OerHeks> LoLz
[17:01] <cfhowlett> Limberian, you could always set a cron job to delete your .cache on the hour
[17:01] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/no-history/ljamgkbcojbnmcaonjokopmcblmmpfch?hl=en
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Limberian  in firefox: settings > privacy > remember history ... guess that comes close to what you want
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> Limberian  or what cfhowlett says
[17:02] <chrisss123456> MonkeyDust: that's probably what No History is referring to
[17:02] <OerHeks> oh, there is a  no-history-plugin ..
[17:02] <OerHeks> chrisss123456, yes, rednotebook is a nice calanderapp
[17:02] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: oh yea haha thought it was implied, sorry
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> didnt know no-history either
[17:03] <OerHeks> grinn you almost made me happy
[17:03] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: ok i'll check it out! thanks!
[17:07] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: Rednotebook looks great, especially for making a journal, however I'm looking for something more for events management, that can sync with accounts like gmail and the sort.... I thought calendar-app was a saving grace, but it just bugs on startup....
[17:10] <Taint> when I first installed linux, a friend helped me
[17:10] <Taint> first thing he did was make a new account because the default was root
[17:10] <Taint> and gave it priveleges or something so I can still update and upgrade things
[17:11] <Taint> can someone give me a link on exactly how to do that if anyone understands?
[17:11] <Taint> I remember chmod being used iirc
[17:13] <tgm4883> Taint: that doesn't sound like ubuntu at all
[17:13] <chrisss123456> OerHeks: you there?
[17:13] <Taint> why not? tgm4883
[17:13] <ioria> sounds slackware :þ
[17:13] <tgm4883> Taint: well for starters, the default isn't root
[17:14] <Taint> come to think of it he was helping me with another distro as well
[17:14] <LambdaComplex> Taint: Using useradd and usermod
[17:14] <Taint> so ubuntu isnt root by default?
[17:14] <LambdaComplex> Nope
[17:14] <Taint> whats the default?
[17:14] <LambdaComplex> Whatever you create during installation
[17:15] <Taint> ah I see
[17:15] <Limberian> MonkeyDust, Hey, I saw it now. Thanks for the answer.
[17:15] <Taint> and that user has the ability to update and upgrade?
[17:15] <Limberian> cfhowlett, And thanks to you too.
[17:15] <tgm4883> Taint: yes
[17:15] <Taint> hmmm
[17:16] <Taint> maybe it was changing the default root password?
[17:16] <Taint> does that sound plausible?
[17:17] <Taint> ^ last question
[17:18] <tgm4883> Taint: well you can do that, it's not recommended though
[17:19] <Taint> ok ty
[17:19] <tgm4883> Taint: by default, the root account has no password. It's not available to login
[17:19] <Taint> sorry for the confusion
[17:19] <Taint> oh
[17:19] <Taint> I thought it was toor or something
[17:19] <Taint> by default
[17:19] <Taint> oh well
[17:19] <tgm4883> nope
[17:20] <martysia> is there any simpler way to fix (install) my network manager than downloading all the files one by one on the system that has the internet connection and then installing them on the system that need the NM?
[17:20] <Taint> thanks though. I appreciate it
[17:20] <Taint> tgm4883,
[17:21] <tgm4883> !aptoncd
[17:22] <martysia> great, but I don't have a cd/dvd drive
[17:27] <simon1764> Has anyone an idea what could be wrong if I don't get a dropdown menu like it's described in this manual: https://www.maketecheasier.com/add-multiple-timezone-ubuntu/ when I try to add some timezones? I only have the UTC entry, if I type in some city names manually it doesn't recognize them.
[17:28] <AEL-H> How can I restrict the commands a user can use?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> AEL-H  sudo visudo   <-- careful!
[17:30] <oats> MonkeyDust: A better idea might be "sudo EDITOR=nano visudo" so they don't have to use vim :)
[17:30] <oats> *vi
[17:40] <tgm4883> oats: except visudo validates the syntax
[17:40] <oats> tgm4883: and makes sure permissions don't get messed up
[17:41] <tgm4883> oats: would it still do that if you forced nano?
[17:41] <oats> tgm4883: I'm not entirely sure, I haven't read the source. I've always used "sudo EDITOR=nvim visudo" myself without trouble
[17:41] <oats> so
[17:41] <oats> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:46] <geekwani> Hi, I want to reduce the minimum password length for an Ubuntu user from 5 to 1. I went through the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/user-management.html#password-policy , but that doesn't seem to work... can anyone help ?
[17:48] <steven__> Hello
[17:48] <geekwani> hi
[17:49] <flux242> hi, I need a simple systray icon that shows network iface throughput as bars, any hints?
[17:49] <Guest79798> plz som one me speed my internet
[17:49] <steven__> I'm having some trouble with the amd driver, my vtty are blank.
[17:50] <steven__> I've been able to get the console boot screens, but ctrl-f1-6 are blank
[17:50] <ioria> geekwani, check this file  /etc/pam.d/common-password
[17:51] <steven__> im running ubuntu 15.04
[17:51] <geekwani> @steven__ which display driver are you using ? i washaving a similar issue.. I used X.org drivers instead of proprietary drivers
[17:52] <steven__> i'm using the proprietary drivers
[17:53] <steven__> the only thing I haven't tried yet is nomodeset in the /etc/default/grub
[17:53] <geekwani> @ioria it now has "password [success=1 default=ignore] pam_unix.so sha512 minlen=1" , then i ran pam-auth-update.. still there is issue
[17:54] <geekwani> @steven__ you'll have to experiment a bit.. Let me check on my computer
[17:54] <ioria> geekwani, did you set minlen=1 after sha512 ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/180402/how-to-set-a-short-password-on-ubuntu
[17:55] <martysia> jest tu ktoś kto mówi po polsku moze?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[17:57] <spm_draget> How do I show the original version AND new verison of a package for which I added a ppa?
[17:58] <steven__> lol thats what I get for playing :) ....booted
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> spm_draget  better ask the maintainer of the ppa
[17:58] <geekwani> awesome
[17:59] <geekwani> @steven__ what setting did you change ?
[17:59] <steven__> I tried the nomodeset and it made no difference
[18:00] <steven__> i'm suspecting it might be something with console-setup
[18:00] <geekwani> i see.. cool :)
[18:01] <Kabuum> hello
[18:02] <mush2> hi. i'm new to linux. what are the pros and cons of starting with ubuntu 15 vs 14?
[18:02] <geekwani> @iora thanks for help.. the problem was with the GUI client (which demands a password lof length >5).. on command line everything seems to work properly :)
[18:03] <ioria> good
[18:03] <OerHeks> mush2, 14.04 lts is more stabe.
[18:03] <nith1210> mush2: 14.04 is the current LTS which means you won't have to upgrade for much longer.
[18:04] <nith1210> mush2: but 15 will have newer software in general (not enough to matter most of the time).
[18:04] <nith1210> atleast not to a new user :)
[18:04] <mush2> i don't mind upgrading. are there compatibility issues with using 15 vs 14?
[18:04] <mush2> i would be upgrading to 16 next year regardless
[18:05] <geekwani> @mush2 depending on your requirement.. if you want to play around with the latest stuff, use 15, but if you want to learn linux, u may use either..
[18:05] <Kabuum> i use 14.04 LTS
[18:06] <mush2> is 15 going to be buggier?
[18:06] <linuxholic> Hello, i have dual GPU laptop. Is there any way i can shift my GPU in ubuntu. Like in linux mint all i have to do is right-click on the settings and change my GPU to nVidia and logout and login. But in Ubuntu when i install nVidia driver and restart my laptop it doesn't boot up :D
[18:06] <mush2> also, other than systemd, are there any significant differences that i would be able to perceive?
[18:07] <nith1210> mush2: They tend to go with more stable versions for LTS's so hypothetically yes, it'll be buggier but it is unlikely you'll notice.
[18:08] <nith1210> mush2: I don't know of any perceivable differences besides simply getting the newer UI.
[18:08] <linuxholic> Hello, i have dual GPU laptop. Is there any way i can use the selected  GPU in ubuntu. Like in linux mint all i have to do is right-click on the settings and change my GPU to nVidia and logout and login. But in Ubuntu when i install nVidia driver and restart my laptop it doesn't boot up :D
[18:08] <nith1210> mush2: As for compatibility...  if you mean problems like when you have someting that works on win7 and you update to win10, there are typicall far far far fewer of those issues.
[18:09] <mush2> thanks nith1210
[18:09] <nith1210> np, welcome to Ubuntu :)
[18:09] <mush2> is the newer ui much different?
[18:09] <mush2> also, is the 15 ui close to what we will see in 16?
[18:09] <nith1210> I personally use Kubuntu which is a different UI. I know they've made improvements to Unity (the Ubuntu default) but I haven't seen them.
[18:09] <jim__> trying to update my video for opengl, downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-355.00.05.run but not sure how to continue
[18:09] <selite_> I changed variable in bashrc but when i do echo $variablename, it still hasn't updated please help?
[18:10] <Kabuum> on my old netbook i use 12.4
[18:10] <nith1210> mush2: To the best of my knowledge, they will be sticking with Unity but they will be doing a major update on it to make it work with Mira instead of X11.
[18:10] <OerHeks> jim__, don't use the run from their website. use the driver tool provided.
[18:11] <jim__> driver tool?
[18:11] <nith1210> mush2: My understanding is that all the same concepts/look and feel should be VERY similar.
[18:11] <OerHeks> jim__, if you *really* need that 355 latest driver,
[18:11] <OerHeks> there is an official ppa comming for nvidiadrivers  still in testing, but nice ... http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:11] <jim__> i'm new to this & not sure what the driver tool is
[18:12] <OerHeks> type driver in dash search, and the additional driver tool will show up
[18:12] <nith1210> mush2: The only warning I'll give you with Ubuntu is that if you try to install manufacturer graphics drivers, it can get fairly difficult and the payoff is minimal. It sounds like a good idea but there be dragons.
[18:12] <jim__> dash search? the terminal?
[18:13] <Guest22443> hello
[18:13] <jim__> ok, thanks
[18:13] <jim__> got it
[18:14] <jim__> comes with five choices, not sure what will run opengl
[18:14] <OerHeks> use the one that says 'recommended'
[18:14] <SpeakFreely> Can someone tell me a good application for note taking on linux?  I can't find any that are well organized and support mathematical equations. Onenote on windows is so easy to use and has such a wide range of features...unfortunately their web version does not support math :\
[18:15] <jim__> it doesn't that's why i'm asking or definately would use that
[18:15] <OerHeks> jim__, for what nvidia card ?
[18:15] <jim__> geforce 8500 gt
[18:16] <OerHeks> oh oke, use the 304 ( the 355 is no use for that older card)
[18:16] <Halfwit> SpeakFreely: Orgs mode in Emacs is wonderful for taking notes. Personally, I use Google Keep for any arbitrary notes I wish to takep
[18:16] <jim__> ok thanks
[18:17] <Novice201y> What's the best way of installing Ubuntu inside Windows (on virtual machine) to make it as much as possible independent from MS system? Dual boot is not an option here :/
[18:18] <SpeakFreely> Halfwit, well this is for notetaking in class
[18:18] <Halfwit> SpeakFreely: Orgs mode in Emacs is worth a look, hten.
[18:19] <SpeakFreely> Halfwit, alright thanks, it supports mathematical notation?
[18:19] <SpeakFreely> Halfwit, such as super/scubscripts, summation symbols etc?
[18:19] <OerHeks> Novice201y, LXC, VMware, VirtualBox, Xen ..
[18:19] <Halfwit> SpeakFreely: Emacs can be extended to support it, I haven't done so yet; but I'm almost certain that it can.
[18:19] <drkjstr> SpeakFreely: If you use any google tools, Drive has equation capability in Docs.
[18:19] <apple__> just test
[18:20] <Halfwit> SpeakFreely: I found a latex extension already, so likely
[18:20] <SpeakFreely> drkjstr, maybe I'll look into that...I just hate the idea of all my notes being stored for google to read
[18:20] <jonathan_> hi I heared it is a bad idea to put mysql into a kvm vm, is it the case ?
[18:20] <apple__> who
[18:20] <Halfwit> That's a common misconception that Google really cares about your specific data :p
[18:20] <OerHeks> jonathan_, ask in #ubuntu-server plz
[18:20] <drkjstr> SpeakFreely: I used it when I used it when I was making equations for a Comp Sci class. I can understand that, but you can also make them available offline on your computer, and/or phone/tablet.
[18:20] <SpeakFreely> I know they don't care about mine specifically lol
[18:21] <SpeakFreely> drkjstr, yeah and I guess it would make things easier when transferring notes. Maybe I'll start using it
[18:21] <jonathan_> OerHeks  ok sure
[18:23] <xubuntu> hello
[18:24] <apple__> test
[18:24] <m000gle> Is there any way to get the hex colour code currently in use by the Unity Dash, the one automatically determined by the wallpaper in use?
[18:25] <OerHeks> !test | apple__
[18:25] <Felix0100101> ik spreek geen engels
[18:25] <AEL-H> What is to stop a normal user on a system to download so many files until the harddrive is capped?
[18:26] <ioria> !info zim          maybe take a look SpeakFreely
[18:26] <ioria> !info zim
[18:27] <Felix0100101> geen nederlander ?
[18:28] <Halfwit> AEL-H: Quotas come to mind
[18:29] <SpeakFreely> iroria, from my experience zim is one of the ones I was talking about when I said it sucks
[18:29] <SpeakFreely> good for general note taking, not good for math
[18:30] <ioria> SpeakFreely, ok ...  just reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/63464/note-taking-software-that-can-support-advanced-math-notation
[18:34] <drkjstr> SpeakFreely: I really enjoy the Google Drive suite of tools in school. Especially the collaborative side of it.
[18:34] <Halfwit> drkjstr: You can easily and securely share with peopel, chat, etc. And then there's so many connected apps
[18:35] <mush2> also, is the 15 ui close to what we will see in 16?
[18:35] <Halfwit> People
[18:35] <Halfwit> Wow. Keyboarding is really hard!
[18:36] <farshid_> hi
[18:37] <Kardos> Halfwit, if you consider google having a copy of everything you do "secure", then perhaps
[18:37] <OerHeks> mush2, 16 is not even in development
[18:38]  * tgm4883 wonders when we decided to drop off the end of the version numbers
[18:38] <OerHeks> unity8 is unity-next, but you can try that out in a LXC container or liveiso.
[18:38] <Halfwit> Kardos: I think you misunderstand how much they have riding on the platform being secure.
[18:39] <tgm4883> Halfwit: Kardos lets keep this on topic shall we
[18:39] <Halfwit> Kardos: But yes, I'm aware that my data is theirs in this case.
[18:39] <mush2> Google having a copy of everything you do is madness. They are getting hacked to death
[18:39] <Halfwit> Luckily I'm not insane enough to think I matter with what I'm putting on there
[18:41] <Knight80> I'm back
[18:41] <Novice201y> OerHeks - Thanks. I know vm software, but how to configure it to give Ubuntu as much independence from Windows as possible?
[18:41] <Knight80> tom- Are you still here?
[18:42] <mush2> tom is still on myspace
[18:43] <tgm4883> Novice201y: not entirely sure what you mean with that question
[18:44] <OerHeks> Novice201y, VMware does that automaticly, no?
[18:44] <mush2> tgm4883: i think he wants his vm to be as walled off from windows as possible
[18:44] <Novice201y> tgm4883: Windows 10 sends information to MS, even when all options about this are disables in system configuration.
[18:44] <mush2> ^this
[18:44] <Novice201y> mush2: Exactly, thanks.
[18:44] <tgm4883> Novice201y: what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[18:45] <mush2> Novice201y: first, you need to remove Windows 10 from your system and wipe the drive thoroughly
[18:45] <mush2> seriously
[18:45]  * tgm4883 feels like he's taking crazy pills
[18:45] <mush2> if you must use Windows, then use 7
[18:45] <Novice201y> mush2: Touching this Windos 10 is not an option :/
[18:46] <OerHeks> i am not even going to answer these trolling questions.
[18:46] <tgm4883> mush2: well that just seems like a silly and off topic thing to say in this channel
[18:46] <mush2> then I would recommend not touching it
[18:46] <mush2> use a different device
[18:47] <Novice201y> mush2: You mean live-USB?
[18:47] <AEL-H> I am having issues with authenticating on wget. I am trying to mirror an entire website whilst logged in using wget. The authentication works fine when I do https://login.xxxxx.ac.uk however when I try to access other parts of that site such as https://online.xxxxx.ac.uk I run into problems, does anyone know what might be going on?
[18:48] <Halfwit> You can basically addle what WinX has the power to do within Ubuntu, but aside from that it's a fully-fledged OS. You can limit it's ports externally, but you aren't going to, say, give it networking and stop it's reporting from within a VM. (I'm almost certain that if you attempt to block the reporting through a firewall, they'll throw an error-addled hissy fit)
[18:48] <OerHeks> AEL-H, server does not want you to crawl, likely
[18:49] <Halfwit> error-laden *, sorry.
[18:49] <pokergod> chattr +i /etc/hosts.  When I connect to openconnect, it still edits my /etc/hosts file.  How can I prevent this
[18:52] <AEL-H> OerHeks: I am not convinced that is the issue, I think it is simply I am missing something with respects to how to save a session or something similar. I am imitating what I would do on my browser exactly to my knowledge
[18:53] <Halfwit> There's a few sites that note what you can get away with blocking/turning off, though. Worth a quick Google.
[18:55] <ioria> pokergod, /etc/hosts or resolv.conf ?
[18:55] <pokergod> yeah i meant /etc/resolv.conf
[18:56] <pokergod> chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[18:57] <Felix0100101> me &2
[18:58] <ioria> pokergod, why did you made it immutable ?
[18:58] <ioria> *make
[18:59] <pokergod> ioria, when I connect to openconnect, it ends up putting the 10.* resolvers in there
[18:59] <pokergod> I don't want them.
[18:59] <pokergod> I added the entries i need via /etc/hsots
[18:59] <ioria> i see
[19:01] <AHemlocksLie> I know none of the Ubuntu Touch phones are sold in the US, but if I could get one imported somehow, would it function on American networks? Preferably T-Mobile?
[19:01] <mush2> AHemlocksLie
[19:01] <mush2> very slowly
[19:01] <AHemlocksLie> So ther is "sort of"?
[19:01] <mush2> next gen Ubuntu phones will support LTE in US
[19:01] <AHemlocksLie> *the answer.
[19:02] <mush2> current ones will support 2G
[19:02] <AHemlocksLie> I dunno how I skipped 90% of a word
[19:02] <mush2> good luck with that
[19:02] <nith1210> AHemlocksLie: Assuming it's compatible with the network yes.
[19:02] <AHemlocksLie> Ah. Do we have an ETA on the next gen?
[19:02] <mush2> i'm hearing late 2015 or early 2016
[19:02] <AHemlocksLie> I would really like one, and I"m in the market for a new phone right now
[19:02] <mush2> worth the wait
[19:03] <AHemlocksLie> That might be manageable... Mine has some issues and battle scars that are starting to get frustrateing
[19:03] <AHemlocksLie> Are these new ones gonna be sold in the states?
[19:03] <daftykins> AHemlocksLie: i saw an article just the other day about a handset being launched in the US, but that the hardware doesn't support the local bands for data, so only 2G (EDGE) was possible - kinda makes it useless :)
[19:03] <rocklobster> PLEASE HELP! My webcam does not work on HP Pavilion g6 running xubuntu.
[19:03] <daftykins> !touch | AHemlocksLie please bear in mind this is the wrong channel though i think
[19:04] <AHemlocksLie> Oh, nice, there's a channel. Thanks.
[19:04] <daftykins> no problemo
[19:06] <rocklobster> PLEASE HELP! My webcam does not work on HP Pavilion g6 running xubuntu.
[19:06] <daftykins> rocklobster: yep, no need to repeat so quickly :) can you at least provide the webcam model in your question?
[19:07] <Jackevansevo> rocklobster: does it appear when you run lsusb in your terminal?
[19:08] <ioria> pokergod, sorry... cn't help you... bt take a look here https://stomp.colorado.edu/blog/blog/category/openconnect/
[19:08] <linuxholic> Is it necessary to install CUDA Toolkit in order to use hardware acceleration for playing heavy video files in ubuntu?
[19:08] <pokergod> okay thanks
[19:08] <ikonia> linuxholic: no
[19:09] <linuxholic> ikonia, have you ever used hardware acceleration on nVidia?
[19:09] <ikonia> yes
[19:09] <linuxholic> I can play video files with linux GPU using VAAPI
[19:09] <daftykins> linuxholic: all that's necessary is the proprietary video driver (probably, probably not) and a capable video player
[19:09] <daftykins> nvidia is more so VDPAU than VAAPI
[19:10] <linuxholic> daftykins, so i hvae to install VDPAU =?
[19:10] <linuxholic> in order to use hardware acceleration?
[19:10] <bl0ck1es> Hey everyone, i removed unity shell and started using Gnome but i want to reinstall Unity Shell again. Anyone can help?
[19:10] <linuxholic> on VLC for example
[19:10] <daftykins> linuxholic: no VDPAU support comes in the driver. what card and driver are you using?
[19:11] <linuxholic> I am using nVidia 8400M
[19:11] <linuxholic> daftykins,
[19:11] <linuxholic> daftykins, Dual-GPU
[19:11] <daftykins> linuxholic: nvidia optimus?
[19:11] <daftykins> i.e. intel + nvidia hybrid?
[19:11] <linuxholic> daftykins, yes
[19:12] <daftykins> there's no real need to even use the nvidia chip then
[19:12] <linuxholic> daftykins, you're saying that it's useless? :D
[19:12] <ikonia> thats not what he said
[19:12] <linuxholic> I can completely change my GPU using nVidia Primus
[19:12] <linuxholic> ikonia, i know :P
[19:13] <OerHeks> linuxholic, only the GeForce 8400M G is supported.
[19:13] <daftykins> your player will tell you what it's using
[19:14] <linuxholic> OerHeks, ok, thanks
[19:14] <linuxholic> daftykins, i can't see the option of VDPAU in VLC settings
[19:14] <linuxholic> Does it mean that my card is not supported?
[19:15] <daftykins> i suspect you may need to investigate the menus a bit more - and that it may only be using the intel
[19:15] <daftykins> i've never used VLC so i can't help you there
[19:15] <linuxholic> daftykins, ok
[19:15] <linuxholic> Thanks
[19:16] <blue_dog> Hi all, how can link alethzero with my private cluster? Is it with the option "connect to peer"? If yes, which direccion do I have to put as peer?
[19:17] <daftykins> blue_dog: what is any of that? how's it ubuntu related? :)
[19:17] <blue_dog> ups, sorry, wrong forum :-D
[19:18] <daftykins> hehe, all good.
[19:20] <daftykins> rocklobster: did you identify it yet? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" would be a good start
[19:26] <pokergod> ioria, i edited the vpnc-script to not call the MODIFYRESOLVCONF on connect/disconnect.  Works
[19:27] <ioria> pokergod, very happy to hear that. good job
[19:30] <tokam> http://pastebin.com/XHEPExgu
[19:30] <tokam> can I somehow increase swap and decrease root?
[19:31] <daftykins> tokam: hmm, ideally you'd want another disk to backup to first
[19:31] <daftykins> tokam: what's up, too small to sleep/hibernate properly?
[19:31] <tokam> ok. let's assume I did this...
[19:31] <bekks> tokam: Whats the output of "free -m"?
[19:31] <tokam> yes
[19:32] <tokam> http://pastebin.com/ukW4j1KR
[19:32] <tokam> I have 8GB ram and 2GB Swap
[19:32] <tokam> but I need 8GB swap
[19:32] <daftykins> ouch
[19:32] <daftykins> well even more with that RAM usage
[19:32] <bekks> tokam: you have 3.9G swap.
[19:33] <bekks> tokam: What do you need that swap for - suspend to disk?
[19:33] <tokam> ok
[19:33] <tokam> yes
[19:33] <tokam> hibernate
[19:33] <tokam> did you calculate that in your mind?
[19:33] <tokam> ahh no it sais 3,8
[19:33] <tokam> ok
[19:33] <bekks> :P
[19:34]  * daftykins bows to bekks
[19:34] <daftykins> :D
[19:34] <bekks> daftykins: :D
[19:34] <agosh> hello
[19:35] <tokam> bekks: can I shrink down my partition with gparted?
[19:35] <bekks> tokam: After creating a valid backup, sure.
[19:35] <tokam> bekks: so often thing go wrong?
[19:36] <m1zkov> greetings..  do i need to compile my own wordlist to use with the aircrack suite, or is there one out there i can easily download that is actually practical for WPA2?
[19:36] <tokam> should I backup only sda2 or must i backup sda3 too?
[19:36] <daftykins> m1zkov: sorry, that suite isn't a topic welcome here.
[19:36] <bekks> tokam: Things need to go wrong for only you, and YOUR data will be lost.
[19:36] <daftykins> m1zkov: i think they have their own channel(s)
[19:36] <bekks> tokam: Backup the entire disk.
[19:37] <tokam> I do not own a disk with enough space for sda3
[19:37] <bekks> tokam: So you dont have data worth to be kept.
[19:37] <tokam> bekks: :D
[19:37] <m1zkov> can you direct me to a resource that will make me more fluent in the use of IRC chat then?  so i can direct myself to the proper chatroom?
[19:37] <tokam> bekks: I do have backups I assume created with the ubuntu backup manager
[19:37] <tokam> but somestimes I get I/O errors.
[19:38] <tokam> I have latest commits on my svn server of my current project
[19:38] <daftykins> m1zkov: well the websites of the software you speak of may often list an IRC network and channel to visit
[19:38] <bekks> tokam: You said you dont have enough space for creating a backup of all of your data.
[19:38] <tokam> not enough space to make an additional backup with dd
[19:38] <bekks> tokam: No one even mentioned dd.
[19:38] <tokam> I will backup the entire disk somewhere, don't know yet where with dd
[19:39] <tokam> and than I will use gparted to reduce size of root on a gparted live disk
[19:39] <bekks> tokam: in most cases, dd is the wrong approach for creating a backup.
[19:39] <daftykins> my vote would be clonezilla \o/
[19:39] <tokam> bekks: why?
[19:39] <tokam> bekks: why not backing up in my case sda with dd
[19:39] <daftykins> backups with a tonne of zeroes aren't very efficient
[19:39] <tokam> and in case something wents wrong I restore sda
[19:40] <bekks> tokam: Do you have enough space for keeping 2 entire dd backups? No. As most people.
[19:40] <Bashing-om> m1zkov: ^^ , There is also ' /msg alis help list '
[19:40] <tokam> why 2?
[19:40] <bekks> tokam: Because one backup may fail.
[19:40] <tokam> dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/some_large_hdd/my_backup
[19:40] <bekks> tokam: Forget dd.
[19:40] <bekks> tokam: Instead, backup your data.
[19:40] <m1zkov> i am using XChat-GNOME IRC Chat.  It has been about 12 years since I have really familiarized myself with this stuff because I smoked way too much weed during that period, so I am a total neophyte at using this..app?
[19:41] <daftykins> m1zkov: #freenode can help you out then, "/join #freenode"
[19:43] <tokam> have you once been in the situation too to be a person who owns almost nothing but the whole something which is in your head
[19:43] <tokam> your personal wikipedia called brain
[19:43] <bekks> tokam: Thats irrelevant for the task you are faced with: create a backup of your data, dont image entire disks.
[19:43] <Halfwit> What
[19:44] <tokam> bekks: yes! irrelevant for #ubuntu
[19:44] <daftykins> Halfwit: my thoughts exactly
[19:44] <bekks> tokam: So concentrate on your task, in #ubuntu. :)
[19:44] <Halfwit> tokam: You're trying really hard to express something deep, but I think you need to read over what you're saying, or if this isn't your native tongue; use your native tongue.
[19:44] <moreno> ciao
[19:44] <daftykins> well no not here, since it's english only :)
[19:46] <l0p3n> What the heck. I have the folders /home/FileSystem and /home/ISO. Are these folders created upon installing Ubuntu?
[19:47] <bekks> l0p3n: No.
[19:47] <DJones> l0p3n: I've never seen those on a standard ubuntu install
[19:48] <ioria> l0p3n, did you do a persistent usb ?
[19:48] <l0p3n> ioria: Yes I did
[19:49] <ioria> l0p3n, well, for a normal installation it's not required
[19:49] <l0p3n> aha
[19:50] <l0p3n> thanks
[19:50] <ioria> l0p3n, just do a normal usb ... linupendrive from win or disk creator from  ubuntu
[19:50] <l0p3n> ok I understand :)
[19:51] <ioria> l0p3n,  *pendrivelinux
[19:54] <AEL-H> How could I test the download speeds of an ubuntu server? --just looking for a generic answer
[19:58] <wileee> AEL-H, You might consider #ubuntu-server
[19:59] <daftykins> AEL-H: wget an ubuntu ISO from a nearby mirror
[20:00] <tgm4883> AEL-H: you could use speedtest.net
[20:00] <tgm4883> I would say that is the best answer :)
[20:00] <daftykins> speedtest-cli :D
[20:01] <tgm4883> daftykins: yep
[20:01] <tgm4883> IIRC, it's written in python
[20:01] <daftykins> tgm4883: well, i find it doesn't work well everywhere in the world
[20:01] <tgm4883> ah
[20:01] <daftykins> often a real world download will outperform it
[20:01] <tgm4883> daftykins: it also doesn't work well if you hit it super often
[20:01] <tgm4883> as in you will get blocked
[20:02] <daftykins> ah didn't know they did that
[20:02] <tgm4883> daftykins: yep, I was adding it to some monitoring I was doing at home and got blocked for a bit
[20:02] <AEL-H> sorry, I am quite bad when it comes to doing things like this entirely from the command line, how exactly could I use speedtest.net? just ping it?
[20:03] <zproc1> hello, should i use "pip" for Python 2 or 3 on 15.04? i would guess it's up to me, but two pip install i tried failed
[20:03] <tgm4883> !info speedtest-cli
[20:05] <moreno> ciao a tutti
[20:06] <rocklobster> PLEASE HELP! xUbuntu does not recognize my laptop - HP Pavilion g6
[20:06] <jbreeding28> I could use some help with my Ubuntu bootable flash drive. It refuses to even start Ubuntu.
[20:06] <SoundAxis> rocklobster, is this like a 50 first dates situation?
[20:07] <rocklobster> No.
[20:07] <daftykins> rocklobster: it was just the webcam before, has it lost the entire machine now?
[20:07] <kairo> hello, i tested speedtest-cli right now but it gives me a lot errors
[20:07] <rocklobster> Nah, I just want to cam with sexy ladies =[
[20:07] <daftykins> jbreeding28: blank screen when selecting 'try' ?
[20:07] <jbreeding28> Yes. There's no signal going to my monitor and the screen goes completely blank.
[20:07] <daftykins> rocklobster: well two of us replied to you earlier on how to proceed but you didn't reply...
[20:08] <daftykins> !nomodeset | jbreeding28 try this
[20:08] <kairo> last error: urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.
[20:08] <jbreeding28> oh, okay.
[20:08] <daftykins> rocklobster: so if you would bolster your query with the link created by "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" that'd be a great start
[20:08] <rocklobster> daftykins, I PMed one guy who replied but unfortunately he was unable to help
[20:08] <Gerowen> On the desktop PC in the living room, my wife tried hooking up our Playstation eye webcam, and lost all audio on her name.  Volume levels are set properly, device output is set to the correct device, and audio works on other usernames.  Running Ubuntu 15.04.  Suggestions?
[20:09] <kairo> i think speedtest have some bugs
[20:09] <daftykins> rocklobster: yeah, PMing people in a help channel is very bad netiquette.
[20:09] <daftykins> !pm
[20:09] <jbreeding28> It's fixed. Thank you.
[20:10] <jbreeding28> I was able to run Linux Mint without that, so I thought Ubuntu would be the same way.
[20:10] <kairo> urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.
[20:10] <daftykins> jbreeding28: they might bundle a proprietary graphics driver perhaps, once you install you'll need to seek out a proper driver for your system to have things perform properly
[20:11] <kairo> i will just remove it, thk's for no response
[20:12] <daftykins> rocklobster: funny, i just told you about not private messaging helpers and you did it immediately. good luck with your problem, you'll get no assistance from me :)
[20:12] <moreno> ciao!
[20:15] <OerHeks> kairo, maybe there is an update for impatience
[20:18] <DzAirmaX> hi guyz
[20:18] <daftykins> hi
[20:19] <DzAirmaX> what is the best way to create an user with a disabled password ?
[20:19] <daftykins> what do you mean by disabled password?
[20:19] <OerHeks> = guest user
[20:19] <DzAirmaX> I want the user only able to login using a key
[20:20] <daftykins> are you talking about SSH keys?
[20:20] <DzAirmaX> yeah
[20:20] <DzAirmaX> adduser --disabled-password user1
[20:21] <DzAirmaX> this command doesn't work anymore
[20:21] <daftykins> i would've thought just set a long password and not tell the user, then configure SSHd to restrict that user to key auth only - but that's a guess with no deep experience with key auth
[20:21] <Ben64> DzAirmaX: you don't want to disable the password, you want to force ssh logins to use a key, totally different
[20:22] <DzAirmaX> Ben64 :  I thought diabling password will force the use of a key too ...
[20:22] <DzAirmaX> daftykins : could be a solution too
[20:23] <DzAirmaX> Ben64 : I dont want a empty password, I want to diable it ...
[20:23] <Ben64> why do you want to disable the password
[20:23] <DzAirmaX> forcing the ssh key auth
[20:23] <Ben64> so just force ssh key auth!
[20:23] <DzAirmaX> which is already force in sshd_conf
[20:24] <DzAirmaX> Ben64 : so what happend when I create an user and dont set a password using the command adduser ?
[20:24] <DzAirmaX> useradd* sorry
[20:25] <Ben64> then it has no password
[20:27] <DzAirmaX> ok thank you guyz fir the info
[20:27] <DzAirmaX> for
[20:28] <changnesia> Hey guys. I'm unable to boot a live usb on my preinstalled windows laptop, which I'd like to dualboot. However, I can boot a ubuntu dvd in legacy mode. Theoretically, if I run it, installed in  legacy mode, ignored the BIOS partition error and then run  boot repair, would  this lead me to a functioning double booting machine?
[20:29] <daftykins> changnesia: nope, you might be able to convert that install to EFI from legacy, but i wouldn't recommend that approach at all
[20:29] <daftykins> changnesia: have you been shown the EFI guide?
[20:29] <daftykins> !efi
[20:29] <ooossiee> Hi all. Im wonderin how cumulative updares work on ubuntu. Does updating once in a while (every 2 or 3  or more mo ths) will not break the system?
[20:30] <changnesia> daftkins: yes and I've been trying to make my usb work for three  days. Nothing I've tried or been advised to try worked.
[20:30] <bekks> ooossiee: There are no cumulative updates in Ubuntu. Nothing like Service Packs, etc.
[20:30] <tgm4883> ooossiee: also, I wouldn't wait that long to update
[20:31] <Flannel> ooossiee: It'll update just fine (of course, there are reasons you wouldn't want to wait that long between updates, but from a purely functional point of view, it'll work fine)
[20:31] <tgm4883> changnesia: out of curiosity, what laptop?
[20:31] <zproc1> i want to test the hibernate feature like https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html said here but there is no "pm-hibernate" on my system
[20:31] <daftykins> changnesia: that's a pain, what kind of system isit?
[20:32] <changnesia> tgm4883: Lenovo G500
[20:32] <changnesia> daftykins: Windows 10.
[20:32] <daftykins> yeah i meant make and model too
[20:32] <daftykins> hrmm.
[20:32] <daftykins> any BIOS updates listed for the system online?
[20:33] <Forums|27133> hey guys, whats a good irc client for ubuntu based distro?
[20:33] <changnesia> daftykins: I'll check.
[20:33] <Forums|27133> I'm using Elementary OS
[20:33] <XD4rker> xchat is a good one
[20:34] <daftykins> !elementary | Forums|27133 Sorry, but regardless of your query being multi-distro...
[20:34] <daftykins> Forums|27133: hexchat might be a good bet though.
[20:34] <Gerowen> Anybody have any idea why sound would go out and not come back, even after a reboot, on one specific username, but not others on the same system?  Ubuntu 15.04.  All she did was plug in my Playstation Eye camera and the audio quit, but sound still works just fine on my son's username, guest account, etc.
[20:34] <XD4rker> i meant hexchat*
[20:34] <Forums|27133> thanks
[20:34] <Forums|27133> will try it out
[20:34] <zproc1> can i install and use pm-utils safely on my system? (ubuntu gnome 15.04)
[20:35] <changnesia> daftykins: There is an update from '14. Do you think it would help?
[20:35] <daftykins> changnesia: well they usually publisha text file with the full change log
[20:35] <OerHeks> maybe that update unlocks your bios > license.
[20:36] <daftykins> :D
[20:36] <changnesia> daftykins: https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/78CN25WW_Readme.txt
[20:37] <ooossiee> Thank you guys. Im.currently using manjaro. The thing is that since i travel some times im offline a long time
[20:37] <ooossiee> I dont want to get online and an update break my system
[20:38] <daftykins> ooossiee: manjaro isn't supported here?
[20:38] <daftykins> ah i see your question now, nevermind
[20:39] <daftykins> changnesia: hmm, well it's not without risk, there doesn't appear to be any detail in that specific document that would suggest it'd be of any help.
[20:39] <Forums|27133> hee
[20:40] <wileee> ooossiee, Don't do a partial upgrade, carry a HD with an image/clone and you will be basically safe have your bases covered if your fix skills are limited.
[20:40] <daftykins> changnesia: do you have just the one flash drive to work with, or multiple? (for trying to boot)
[20:41] <changnesia> daftykins: I've tried two. One never gets past the lenovo sccreen and the other was ignored.
[20:41] <daftykins> changnesia: oh and you also mentioned DVD, does your Lenovo's BIOS boot menu (F12 key typically) list the DVD drive twice - once for legacy and once for EFI?
[20:41] <changnesia> daftykins: In efi there is no dvd, only in legacy.
[20:41] <daftykins> bear in mind that a lot of the time you need to use FN+F12 due to the way Lenovo's like to handle function keys too
[20:41] <daftykins> ah well that's very odd.
[20:41] <OerHeks> changnesia, disabled Fastboot? that could prevent booting from usb too.
[20:42] <changnesia> oerheks: yes, I followed all the usual advice.
[20:42] <daftykins> changnesia: i think the easiest way to proceed in these situations, is if you have any way to provide pictures of every screen of the system's EFI.
[20:42] <OerHeks> then upgrade the EFIbios i guess
[20:42] <daftykins> or yeah ^ you could risk it.
[20:42] <daftykins> up to you really
[20:43] <changnesia> daftykins: How big a risk is it?
[20:43] <OerHeks> how would we know..
[20:43] <daftykins> well power failure is less relevant for a laptop, so just boot into Windows and make doubly, triply and nthly sure it's the exact model the download is for :)
[20:44] <daftykins> changnesia: downloading any number of system information utilities (easiest example being CPU-ID from cpuid.org) can show the current BIOS version
[20:44] <daftykins> (from Windows)
[20:44] <changnesia> daftykins: I'll try that.
[20:45] <daftykins> well, as well as just entering it directly and checking of course :D
[20:46] <Remoboth> Does anyone remember the name of that app that has all the selectable recommended programs for a new Ubuntu INstall?
[20:47] <wileee> Remoboth, Never seen that from the ubuntu repos, you sure this is not a third party app?
[20:47] <ooossiee> Wileee, thanks. So i clone my system before any upgrade right? I will download all updates/upgrades before installing. So i can make sure i will install everything i stead of downloading and installing since in the process i can lose my connection
[20:47] <Remoboth> wileee - It is a third party app. I just remembered... Called "Ubuntu AFter INstall".
[20:48] <wileee> ooossiee, Not what I suggest, but if you want to be really sure your covered an image/clone or home backed up in another partition would help. You are more worried than I would be, but I've used ubuntu a long time.
[20:48] <xangua> Remoboth: there are several of sites and several of guides called "10 things to do after installing Ubuntu"written every six months, pick your favorite?
[20:49] <moreno> ciao
[20:49] <Remoboth> xangua - Thanks.
[20:49] <moreno> !list
[20:49] <wileee> Remoboth, I would do it yourself, as suggested, a 3rd party will not be supported here if your bricked.
[20:50] <Remoboth> Aye.
[20:50] <daftykins> for what it's worth we had someone in here just the other day who had trashed their install from following one of those "10 things" guides
[20:51] <daftykins> they should be renamed "10 untrustworthy PPAs to contaminate your system with" for accuracy :)
[20:51] <wileee> a whole lotta ppa's
[20:51] <wileee> lol
[20:51] <ooossiee> Thanks wileee
[20:52] <wileee> ooossiee, No prob, I suspect you will be okay.
[20:52] <ooossiee> Thank you
[20:52] <changnesia> daftykins: I've just acquired another usb stick, is it possible that it's not booting because of the one I've been using so far?
[20:53] <changnesia> so maybe I could try that one before flashing the bios
[20:53] <daftykins> changnesia: sounds like a plan, how are you preparing it?
[20:53] <AEL-H> If I want a user to be able to execute certain server files but nothing else what is the best way to do that? At the moment I am encountering issues in that the user does not have sufficient priveleges to access the files the server files are dependent on
[20:53] <daftykins> s/it/them/
[20:54] <daftykins> AEL-H: add that user to a group, then modify the permissions of the files they should be able to change to be owned by that group
[20:54] <AEL-H> Thankyou
[20:54] <changnesia> daftykins: I've tried many utilities. Is UUI reliable? It's the most comfortable one. I also tried win32diskimager
[20:55] <changnesia> and some more, but I don't remember their names
[20:55] <daftykins> changnesia: yep i've always had good success with UUI, YUMI... etc.
[20:55] <daftykins> rufus i believe is another
[20:55] <daftykins> of course for EFI boot, you only need the contents of the ISO extracted onto a FAT32 partition on the flash drive
[20:56] <daftykins> no need for boot sector shenanigans at all
[20:56] <changnesia> I see. I also tried unebootin and linux live usb creator
[20:56] <daftykins> a long time ago unetbootin was said to have EFI issues, probably fine now but i avoid it just for historic reasons
[20:56] <kairo> thank you OerHeks
[20:57] <changnesia> daftykins: I've tried all I could find, to no avail sadly
[20:57] <daftykins> changnesia: well something useful might be to nuke the drives before you even begin, using the windows utility 'diskpart' inside a command prompt window you can totally wipe the disks before starting which might give a different result
[20:58] <daftykins> also hashing the downloaded ISOs is presumably something you've done?
[20:58] <wileee> changnesia, Have you checked for any local ubuntu groups for advice as an option, somebody physically there?
[20:58] <Butterkeks> Hey I turned on KDE Accessible by accident it won't turn off even after restarting D: I click close but it comes right  back
[20:58] <changnesia> daftykins: Done that multiple times. And by that you mean the md5 string?
[20:58] <daftykins> changnesia: yep that's the one.
[20:59] <jbreeding28> upon loading ubuntu, I get an "ACIP PCC Proble Fail". What is this?
[20:59] <changnesia> wileee: I live in the middle of nowhere
[20:59] <changnesia> daftykins: yes checked that
[20:59] <daftykins> jbreeding28: if things work i wouldn't worry necessarily
[20:59] <Sedna> I´m running Mate on a
[20:59] <wileee> changnesia, Ah, you have excellent help now, it was just a thought.
[20:59] <jbreeding28> well, I can't log in
[20:59] <Butterkeks> how to turn this off i am using KDE nobody answered in #kubuntu :( http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=13159841
[21:00] <Sedna> Pentium 4?
[21:00] <Sedna> Well.
[21:00] <daftykins> jbreeding28: but you get to the login screen? this is after installing?
[21:00] <jbreeding28> yes. i get to the login screen, type in my password, and then a big screen comes up with a bunch of "failedtoapply"
[21:00] <changnesia> wileee: I do! I asked my friend, who is quite knowledgeable but he didn't know.
[21:01] <daftykins> jbreeding28: this could be part of what i'd mentioned regarding needing to install graphics drivers. try the guest session too
[21:01] <jbreeding28> alright. I'm just having trouble installing the driver
[21:02] <jbreeding28> and I can't log into guest either
[21:02] <daftykins> jbreeding28: what kind of system and what graphics hardware?
[21:03] <jbreeding28> NVIDIA Geforce GTX 970 is the card. I'm aware it has problems
[21:03] <daftykins> and you installed what, 14.04?
[21:03] <basedblue> hey
[21:03] <jbreeding28> I have the driver file on the comnputer, but whenever I go to install it, it says I'm running an X server
[21:04] <daftykins> jbreeding28: yes, you don't download nvidia drivers ideally with Ubuntu. they can be installed from packages with a command
[21:04] <jbreeding28> and what's that package?
[21:05] <daftykins> jbreeding28: can i take this to mean you are comfortable with switching to the TTY and logging in there for CLI tasks?
[21:05] <Butterkeks> thx I removed it with apt-get remove kaccessible --purge dammit
[21:05] <jbreeding28> a TTY?
[21:05] <daftykins> jbreeding28: like ctrl+alt+F1
[21:05] <jbreeding28> oh, that. yes, I'm comfortable with doing that
[21:06] <daftykins> jbreeding28: do you have a working wired network connection on that system?
[21:06] <jbreeding28> yes
[21:06] <daftykins> jbreeding28: ok, login at the TTY and use "sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-346" then reboot
[21:06] <jbreeding28> nvidia 346? everywhere I've looked says 343 is the latest for my card
[21:07] <greenride> Is it possible to have workspace switching operate independently on each monitor?
[21:07] <daftykins> trust me.
[21:07] <daftykins> hrmm seems they may've removed it actually
[21:08] <grifferro> hello is there where I can come to get some help with ubuntu?
[21:08] <jbreeding28> grifferro: you are in the right place
[21:08] <daftykins> grifferro: yes, ask away
[21:09] <daftykins> jbreeding28: you might have to add the xorg-edgers PPA in order to get the package.
[21:09] <jbreeding28> well, it's going well so far. if an error pops up i'll try that
[21:09] <OerHeks> that gt970 is supported by the 343.22 driver and up. so that 346 will do.
[21:09] <grifferro> I'm tryin to get hulu working in firefox on ubuntu 14.04 but flash doesn't load. It works fine on google-chrome and flash works elsewhere in firefox
[21:09] <ablest1980> hey
[21:09] <jbreeding28> DerHeks: Thanks for the clarification
[21:09] <daftykins> jbreeding28: was it 14.04 or 15.04 you threw on?
[21:09] <grifferro> 14.04
[21:09] <OerHeks> grifferro, known issue, only chrome works fine with flsh / DRM
[21:09] <jbreeding28> 14.04
[21:10] <grifferro> dammit oh well
[21:10] <OerHeks> please don't swear
[21:10] <grifferro> thanks though that probably spared me some fruitless searching
[21:10] <grifferro> and sorry
[21:10] <ablest1980> hello
[21:10] <ablest1980> i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091612/
[21:10] <ablest1980> in icedtea
[21:11] <jbreeding28> daftykinds: Thank you so much. I'm successfully in the desktop
[21:11] <daftykins> wahey \o/
[21:11] <jbreeding28> now, that ACPI PCC Probe failing, is that anything to worry about?
[21:11] <slyrus> howdy. I have an m.2 SATA card installed via a PCI card. I can see the card with, e.g., lspci, but can't see the m.2 card. do I need to map the card/device to scsi numbers somehow or should this happen automagically?
[21:11] <daftykins> no idea, i'd only be googling
[21:11] <jbreeding28> alright. well, I guess i'll leave it since it's booting up fine
[21:12] <bekks> slyrus: Maybe you need some driver for that m.2 card.
[21:12] <jbreeding28> and while I'm guessing not, is there any way to automatically keep up to date nvidia drivers? where the updates download automatically?
[21:12] <daftykins> not yet - is the answer there
[21:12] <ablest1980> anyone understand this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091612/ ?
[21:13] <daftykins> jbreeding28: someday soon this will be useful though - http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/
[21:13] <daftykins> ablest1980: yep, it means "seek help in a java channel"
[21:13] <ablest1980> ok
[21:14] <jbreeding28> so the hope is that this'll allow automatic updates of stable NVIDIA drivers?
[21:14] <daftykins> pretty much yep.
[21:14] <daftykins> and access to more up to date versions quicker
[21:14] <jbreeding28> can't wait for it, even though I'm not going to be using Ubuntu much
[21:15] <ablest1980> javabot> ablest1980's title: Ubuntu Pastebin
 ~~ ablest1980 tech support
 ablest1980, Hello, ##java is not a technical support channel for your Java apps or virtual machines; it's a development channel for enthusiasts to discuss programming with the Java language.  Please ask the vendor of your software for support if you're having trouble with it.
[21:15] <daftykins> jbreeding28: chasing version numbers really isn't all it's cracked up to be
[21:15] <daftykins> when i grab the latest drivers nobody hands me a beer and does the laundry
[21:15] <jbreeding28> just so long as it works?
[21:16] <daftykins> :)
[21:16] <basedblue> anyone here do javascript
[21:16] <jbreeding28> before I go, any packages for Ubuntu I should definitely get?
[21:16] <basedblue> dont go
[21:16] <basedblue> yes
[21:17] <basedblue> npm and node... makes javascript mmore useful
[21:17] <basedblue> also normal java is so 20 years ago
[21:17] <jbreeding28> basedblue: Hey, I like Java!
[21:18] <daftykins> basedblue: this is an OS support channel, not a dev channel.
[21:18] <daftykins> !alis | basedblue use this to find more relevant places for discussion
[21:18] <changnesia> Hello, so the other flash drive works! Now I cleared space for the partitions, do I choose alongside windows or something else?
[21:19] <daftykins> \o/
[21:19] <daftykins> changnesia: depends whether you want to partition manually and do anything besides the default really (which is to have one partition with everything in, then swap beside it)
[21:19] <basedblue> 09daftykins on ubuntu do u know how to get around sudo fakesu fakechoot
[21:19] <daftykins> basedblue: get around it? you mean you don't want to type it every time you run something?
[21:20] <basedblue> i am using cozycloud
[21:20] <basedblue> they prevent sudo
[21:20] <basedblue> but i was able to get some privleages with fakechoot
[21:20] <daftykins> i don't have a clue what that is so can't comment
[21:21] <basedblue> i show u screen cap
[21:21] <daftykins> nah that's ok
[21:21] <daftykins> i must be off
[21:21] <changnesia> Daftykins: well if choose something else and create root, home and swap, will that be fine? Will it still dual boot?
[21:22] <basedblue> http://vgy.me/B0zAf0.png
[21:23] <daftykins> changnesia: you can safely choose 'something else', then if it puts a mention of 'EFI' besides the high up partition then it should be good. you can share a screenshot of that page if you like so we can see if it looks ok
[21:25] <changnesia> It put the efi to a partition that says windows boot manager
[21:26] <daftykins> can you throw an image up on imgur.com or similar?
[21:26] <daftykins> alt+print-screen to share only the active window for ease
[21:26] <changnesia> Ithink it's the right one, the size checks with what I saw in widows. Sure
[21:27] <changnesia> I'll upload a photo, I'm not connected to Wi-Fi
[21:27] <changnesia> Onthelaptop
[21:27] <daftykins> ok
[21:30] <changnesia> http://i.imgur.com/Mxzjgzl.jpg
[21:31] <daftykins> changnesia: looks good, so obviously remember to make your swap file equal to/larger than your system RAM if you want to use sleep/hibernate and you'll be set
[21:32] <changnesia> Ok, great. Thank you very much guys! But if it won't work, you will hear from me again :-)
[21:32] <intelikey> is recover from sleep/hibernate any faster that normal boot ?
[21:32] <daftykins> i don't doubt it :)
[21:32] <daftykins> intelikey: depends on hardware, your mileage may vary.
[21:33] <intelikey> ah yeah like fast system with lots of ram might boot faster than it recovered from sleep  and slower system with little ram would recover from sleep faster than a boot up       ?
[21:34] <intelikey> would
[21:34] <wileee> intelikey, Do you have a u ubuntu install?
[21:34] <intelikey> wileee not at present,
[21:35] <intelikey> i have used ubuntu a lot.   but not lately.
[21:35] <JackShadowFirez> Can someone explain what XChat is?
[21:35] <daftykins> an old IRC client, JackShadowFirez
[21:36] <JackShadowFirez> oh
[21:36] <daftykins> !info xchat
[21:36] <wileee> intelikey, Your going to have to test this out in the end, sleep should be an instantaneous return, hibernate takes longer, test it till you know.
[21:36] <JackShadowFirez> thx
[21:36] <intelikey> jackshadowfirez  I,nternet R,elay C,hat   cilent
[21:36] <intelikey> wileee ok.
[21:36] <JavaNunes> hi, my server is very powerfull ,
[21:36] <mycookie> Hello everyone, I was hoping to get some quick help on making an upstart script
[21:38] <JavaNunes> my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> , enter using ssh, user is admin , pass is admin
[21:38] <JavaNunes> i no use firewall, my system is very secure
[21:38] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | JavaNunes
[21:39] <basedblue> u may think ur system is secure
[21:39] <x-Rage> Hi there
[21:39] <basedblue> make sure ur openssl is updated
[21:39] <intelikey> javanunes or "go hack your self"  ;/
[21:39] <wileee> basedblue, you see th OT right?
[21:39] <JavaNunes> my system is powerfull basedblue
[21:39] <bekks> JavaNunes: And offtopic in here.
[21:39] <basedblue> yet my old powermac can be rooted with 1 line of code in ssh...
[21:40] <changnesia> Is /home necessary? I have a partition for data so I wouldn't need it.
[21:40] <wileee> not relevant
[21:40] <JavaNunes> bekks fuck you now
[21:40] <r00ter> hi
[21:40] <wileee> changnesia, Your choice, some have it for upgrades
[21:40] <intelikey> changnesia  "necessary"  no    "default" yes
[21:40] <mycookie> Can anyone give me some quick help in upstart?
[21:40] <r00ter> is someone using ubuntu mate here?
[21:40] <basedblue> ur system is not secure
[21:41] <basedblue> its mac
[21:41] <basedblue> with old version of openssl
[21:41] <basedblue> this could be exploited with out admin pass
[21:41] <changnesia> Wileee: what use does it have for upgrades?
[21:41] <mcphail> JavaNunes: please troll elsewhere
[21:41] <bekks> basedblue: Thats offtopic in here.
[21:41] <r00ter> I need help with ubuntu mate
[21:41] <xangua> !ask | r00ter
[21:42] <r00ter> haha nice one :D
[21:42] <oats> What kind of a bot is ubottu?
[21:42] <wileee> changnesia, A separate home is great for a fresh install, everything there stays the same. I use backups myself and just one partition.
[21:42] <r00ter> ok the NoDisplay:true command seems not working on my u mate
[21:42] <r00ter> what should I do
[21:42] <Madelyn> olaaaaaaaaaa
[21:42] <Isterico> sera
[21:42] <JavaNunes> basedblue: go ubuntu-offtopic
[21:42] <Madelyn> o q?
[21:43] <x-Rage> www.zip.er.cz/WakeUP
[21:43] <changnesia> Wileee: thank you! I'll create it then, I have space to spare
[21:43] <mycookie> r00ter: I always forget to mark my *.desktop files as executable
[21:43] <basedblue> did u make me just sudo su in to a goverment box
[21:43] <mycookie> r00ter: maybe that's the case?
[21:43] <intelikey> !ubottu
[21:43] <basedblue> http://vgy.me/YijSYc.png
[21:44] <wileee> changnesia, Good, your doing a manual install which is great, now you will know how. ;)
[21:44] <r00ter> my cookie
[21:44] <mycookie> I'm trying to make an upstart script for powertop --auto-tune, however initctl cannot see it in my /etc/init, what am I doing wrong?
[21:45] <Gerowen> Does EXT4 support expanded file permissions besides the basic "user group other" model?  For example can I add multiple groups with different permission levels to a single folder?
[21:45] <bekks> Gerowen: ext4 supports ACL.
[21:45] <changnesia> Wileee: I prefer to set it up myself as much as I can. :-)
[21:45] <bekks> Gerowen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[21:45] <wileee> ;)
[21:46] <Gerowen> bekks: Thanks, :-)
[21:46] <mycookie> Here is my powetop.conf for upstart, file name is /etc/init/powertop.conf. initctl cannot see it! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091915/
[21:47] <r00ter> cookie
[21:47] <basedblue> is this some area51 ssh box
[21:47] <basedblue> http://vgy.me/LDN3U1.png
[21:48] <r00ter> This is this error I get sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `�'
[21:48] <bekks> !ot | basedblue
[21:55] <shabonix_> Quick Question for anyone here at the moment...Currently not happy with windows 10 and all the tracking, etc that they are doing. Want to switch to ubuntu...I have two drives in my system. Boot Drive is an ssd with windows install and the other is a 500gb storage drive. Would moving files over to the storage drive, erasing boot drive, installing ubuntu, then mounting the storage drive into ubuntu be a good way of installing? Thanks.
[21:56] <bekks> shabonix_: You dont need to erase a drive, you can just repartition it during install.
[21:56] <shabonix_> Even if I wanted to encrypt it?
[21:56] <bekks> Sure.
[21:57] <bekks> shabonix_: But you cannot encrypt your storage drive during installation.
[21:58] <shabonix_> Appreciate the help bekks!
[22:04] <intelikey> how can root get this error   mkdir: cannot create directory '/mnt/sdc2_10g_mini-sd': Input/output error
[22:04] <bekks> intelikey: Most likely by a corrupted filesystem or damaged hardware.
[22:05] <intelikey> nothing mounted on /mnt   and  / is mounted ... sort of normally ...  da1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[22:06] <bekks> intelikey: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" please?
[22:06] <bekks> !pastebinit | intelikey
[22:08] <AEL-H> I am having some problems with skype picking up the microphone and speakers, I am not very well versed in the realms of audio in linux -- does anyone know what the problem might be?
[22:09] <intelikey> bekks umm you wouldnt want all of that.  maybe pipe it though tail    but there is nothing about that or sda*   it ends with errors on sdb1  a fat issue...   but not related, and i don't see anything above it that looks interesting.      i'll reboot and fsck the hd
[22:10] <bekks> intelikey: I am sure I want the entire output.
[22:10] <intelikey> hehhhe   no  you dont'
[22:10] <bekks> I do. It's just you who dont want to give the information request.
[22:10] <bekks> *requested.
[22:14] <derek01> hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there
[22:15] <derek01> Oh I just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10
[22:15] <Limberian> It's not an ubuntu question but if anyone has any opinion I'd love to hear it: My graphic card's fan doesn't work so I bought a desk fan for a 5$ and put it in front of the graphic card. Will it prevent shutdowns caused by heat? :P
[22:19] <hoechts> hi, i reinstalled ubuntu, and now my raid cant be found via mdadm --assemble --scan
[22:19] <hoechts> what could be the problem?
[22:20] <bekks> hoechts: The disks can still be found?
[22:20] <hoechts> bekks, yes via gparted and/or disks
[22:20] <FourFire> Hi, I did a dumbdumb with this system and am wondering how to fix it
[22:21] <derek01> hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there
[22:21] <FourFire> I attempted to install the 4.1.0 kernel on my (installed as) 15.04
[22:21] <derek01> just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04
[22:22] <wileee> FourFire, boot the previous kernel from ubuntu and remove it.
[22:22] <hoechts> bekks, any hints?
[22:22] <daftykins> Limberian: it's unlikely to be too effective, often you can get compatible heatsink + fan combo replacements to fit to a matching card, often with 'arctic cooling' branding, but you may even be ok just screwing a small appropriately sized fan on top. But yeah, ##hardware would be more apt
[22:22] <FourFire> however what I actually installed was the linux_headers[...]_all.deb and linux_headers[...]_i386.deb
[22:22] <bekks> hoechts: using sudo fdisk -l, do the disks have correct labels?
[22:23] <FourFire> now the system on the latest kernel's session freezes whenever I try to do apt anything
[22:23] <FourFire> I am booted into 3.19 now
[22:23] <FourFire> how to remove it?
[22:23] <hoechts> bekks, "the tool fdisk doesnt support GPT"
[22:23] <bekks> FourFire: How did you install it?
[22:24] <bekks> hoechts: So use gdisk
[22:24]  * FourFire should have just followed the guide instead of doing a dist-upgrade from memory
[22:24] <wileee> FourFire, Did it get installed no errors, and you see it in a update-grub
[22:24] <FourFire> bekks, got the three (i thought correct) files from kernel.ubuntu and opened them in order with software center
[22:24] <FourFire> no
[22:25] <FourFire> the seesion froze durng installation'
[22:25] <FourFire> and i had to force reboot the system
[22:25] <FourFire> it's been ... unusable since (well the last kernel version)
[22:25] <Guest61317> kj l,m.,
[22:25] <Limberian> Where can I find any tutorial or good customization stuff for ubuntu?
[22:25] <FourFire> 3.19 works fine but it has that terrible SSD problem, and my system is on Samsung 850s
[22:25] <jjavaholic> how can I tell if I have a uefi enabled ubuntu disc or not?
[22:26] <daftykins> jjavaholic: it'll be 12.04.2+
[22:27] <jjavaholic> there isn't a 15.04 uefi disc?
[22:27] <bekks> jjavaholic: yes, there is.
[22:27] <daftykins> jjavaholic: i'm saying any version newer than 12.04.2 will be fine
[22:27] <hoechts> bekks, what do you actually mean with "correct labels"?
[22:28] <wileee> jjavaholic, the wiki address uefi on dvd's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:28] <bekks> hoechts: did you use partitions or the entire disks for your raid?
[22:28] <hoechts> bekks, i guess i used the whole disk, but im not sure
[22:29] <FourFire> bekks, is there any more information i can provide to help?
[22:30] <bekks> just open your package manager and uninstall the packages you installed formerly.
[22:30] <FourFire> ok, trying now
[22:30] <FourFire> ok it says configuribng headers
[22:30] <FourFire> for 4.1
[22:31] <FourFire> and I got a bug wearning
[22:31] <FourFire> reported it as i might crash momentarily
[22:32] <FourFire> ah bug is related to nvidia-driver something
[22:32] <FourFire> ah, I think i suspect what might be the problem with the session freeze
[22:33] <FourFire> I have the very new Intel 5th gen desktop i5 with the silly graphics, there might be a problem with the graphics stack in the 4.1 kernel and it's less of a problem with the nvidia driver
[22:33] <FourFire> last when i had these problems I didn't have my card in
[22:36] <FourFire> Thanks for the help, I'll attempt to boot into my new kernel now
[22:48] <AbuDhar> libreoffice is not launching.
[22:48] <AbuDhar> :s
[22:51] <AbuDhar> with no errors
[22:51] <AbuDhar> killed the process and relaunched.. works now lol
[22:51] <yesimon> Anybody know why the pip package in python-pip is so old?
[22:55] <tnkhanh> hi
[22:58] <erkan^> which retricited extra is for Ubuntu Mate?
[22:58] <wileee> erkan^, it is a codec package..etc for all de.
[22:59] <wileee> ubuntu-restricted-extras   sorry
[22:59] <erkan^> I see: Ubuntu - Kubuntu - Lubuntu - Xubuntu, but Mate?
[22:59] <wileee> erkan^, They are basically the same
[22:59] <erkan^> ah ok thx wil
[22:59] <erkan^> wileee
[23:00] <wileee> no prob, you will see an ok for ms fonts as well
[23:00] <erkan^> hihi, I like "Verdana" :)
[23:00] <wileee> ;) yoh comic sans
[23:01] <erkan^> haha
[23:07] <kiwiirc09324> I am trying to install wifi on my Asus x205ta, and when i enter the following line it says that the nvram-74xxxxxxx file can not be found.  cp /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/nvram-74b00bd9-805a-4d61-b51f-43268123d113 /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.txt
[23:07] <jbreeding28> Does anyone have any idea why/how restarting a computer from Ubuntu into Windows would screw up the Windows clock?
[23:10] <OerHeks> windows uses localtime, ubuntu utc LoLz
[23:10] <OerHeks> solution is here on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[23:10] <daftykins> jbreeding28: ^ UTC and non-UTC
[23:10] <OerHeks> change ubutnu to utc ..
[23:10] <jbreeding28> I just did some research on that myself.
[23:10] <daftykins> i guess you're ending 1hr out
[23:11] <OerHeks> err windows to utc
[23:11] <jbreeding28> also, after restarting ubuntu, it tosses up an error where the computer doesn't recognize the mouse. Power cycling solves it, but do you have any general solution for it?
[23:12] <OerHeks> so you asked about time, got the answer already ...
[23:12] <OerHeks> jbreeding28, before i answer your question, did you have the answer already too ?
[23:12] <daftykins> jbreeding28: as in a shutdown and cold boot of the system - or replugging the rodent?
[23:13] <mlnee> Hello, I'm trying to install Lubuntu 12.04 on a PowerMac G5. Would the "nv" or the "fbdev" driver be the best option (speed-wise).
[23:13] <jbreeding28> shutdown and cold boot still leaves the error. I have to turn off the power supply and restart it to make it work
[23:17] <OerHeks> mlnee, not sure if nv nouveau works better https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#fbdev
[23:17] <daftykins> jbreeding28: and this doesn't happen to Windows?
[23:19] <jbreeding28> correct. When I boot into Ubuntu, it tosses up some errors about not recognizing USB devices
[23:19] <daftykins> jbreeding28: a pastebin of "dmesg" might be handy to chase that one
[23:19] <daftykins> what kind of machine was this again? brand wise
[23:19] <mlnee> I have read that I should try fbdev as a last resort, thats why I am unsure
[23:20] <jbreeding28> it says "couldn't allocate usb_device"
[23:20] <jbreeding28> this is a custom computer
[23:20] <daftykins> sorry but piecemeal pastes won't really be of any use
[23:20] <daftykins> mlnee: what's that thing got? nvidia?
[23:21] <mlnee> Maybe I should try to get "nouveau" to work ,then try compiling "nv" and if that fails "fbdev"
[23:21] <mlnee> yes
[23:21] <mlnee> A gforce fx 5200
[23:21] <jbreeding28> alright. well, for some reason it seems to have stopped now. Once it didn't even throw up the error, and even when it did, I was able to restart no problem
[23:21] <daftykins> mlnee: the nvidia module hasn't been called 'nv' for a long time, if ever (i don't even remember)
[23:21] <jbreeding28> so it appears to have fixed itself somehow
[23:22] <daftykins> jbreeding28: latest BIOS i take it?
[23:22] <OerHeks> there are no prop drivers for PPC, according to the manual.
[23:22] <mlnee> well, its supposed to be the old driver
[23:23] <daftykins> yeah PPC's pretty museum status now, community only support i think
[23:23] <jbreeding28> yep. and this computer is brand new. I only got the componenets about a month ago
[23:24] <daftykins> doesn't mean there aren't often day one updates :)
[23:24] <jbreeding28> I'm aware of that. I've updated everything, I'm sure of it.
[23:24] <jbreeding28> it's probably a case of correlation not implying causation, but once I fixed the clock issue, it suddenly resolved.
[23:25] <mlnee> daftykins: Man, this machine weights a ton and sounds like a jet turbine :)
[23:25] <daftykins> mlnee: :)
[23:25] <daftykins> is that down to bad temps o0 surely something Apple would be whisper quiet
[23:26] <jbreeding28> scratch that. device descriptor errors just popped up.
[23:27] <jbreeding28> daftykins: My keyboard and mouse are made by Razer, and they currently have no official Linux support. Is that possibly the reason?
[23:28] <daftykins> well for what it's worth, i own a razer deathadder mouse and i run it on the latest (last) firmware they released
[23:28] <daftykins> so as long as you're in a USB 2.0 port that's all i can really think of.
[23:28] <jbreeding28> I could be in a USB 3.0 port. let me check
[23:30] <jbreeding28> yeah they're plugged into usb 3.0 SS. Do I need some drivers for that?
[23:30] <daftykins> no you need to avoid that :)
[23:30] <daftykins> 2.0 only i'd say for peripherals
[23:30] <jbreeding28> alright. it does have two 2.0 ports.
[23:31] <jbreeding28> does ubuntu have issues with 3.0?
[23:31] <daftykins> no, peripherals in general have issues with USB 3 controllers
[23:31] <jbreeding28> alright. well, i've had no issues with windows
[23:31] <daftykins> more mature drivers
[23:31] <jbreeding28> I can't wait until we scratch USB as it is now and just get to USB-C
[23:32] <daftykins> it's been a horrible interface since its' inception :)
[23:32] <jbreeding28> although it has done a lot for standardization
[23:33] <jbreeding28> daftykins: Could have been worse. We could have been stuck with FireWire
[23:33] <daftykins> nah that'd never have happened
[23:34] <jbreeding28> so why is it peripherals still have problems with USB 3 when it was released in 2010?
[23:35] <derek01> hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there
[23:35] <derek01> just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04
[23:36] <jbreeding28> daftykins: Regardless, switching them to 2.0 seems to have resolved the issue.
[23:36] <derek01> it also seems all other users work, just not mine
[23:37] <daftykins> a discussion on the ins and outs of USB on Linux would be off topic i'm afraid - and i'd not be able to answer :)
[23:37] <jbreeding28> alright. I wasn't really epecting an answer. Just food for thought.
[23:37] <mlnee> Hello again. There is no need for 3d acceleration when running Lubuntu (basic stuff, no games no nothing), right?
[23:37] <daftykins> derek01: ah yes - #1 i'd check for any files in your ~ not owned by your user
[23:38] <daftykins> mlnee: nope, though if you went near anything web like pepperflash plugin things or HTML5 in chrome or firefox you might run into slowdown, i'd just see how you go
[23:38] <mlnee> daftykins: thanks once again!
[23:38] <daftykins> ^_^
[23:39] <jbreeding28> mlnee: I had a similar issue with Linux Mint, because it had no drivers for my card. Basic stuff is fine, but firefox or anything like that, it'll be really slow
[23:39] <derek01> daftykins: that did it. why didnt I think of that lol Thanks man!
[23:40] <daftykins> derek01: :) no problemo
[23:40] <daftykins> i feel bad for not answering earlier now
[23:41] <AbuDhar> does ubuntu have spyware?
[23:42] <mlnee> AbuDhar: not really
[23:43] <jbreeding28> AbuDhar: Let me guess, freaked out by the new privacy stuff in Windows 10?
[23:43] <daftykins> that would be off topic.
[23:43] <AbuDhar> mlnee, I heard some guys in #linux say that
[23:44] <AbuDhar> Ubuntu has spyware
[23:44] <daftykins> probably just some tinfoil hat wearing folk.
[23:44] <AbuDhar> I know about the amazon thing.. :/
[23:44] <jbreeding28> AbuDhar: What daftykins said.
[23:44] <xangua> !fud
[23:45] <jbreeding28> AbuDhar: Google does more data mining from you than Ubuntu ever has or ever will.
[23:46] <daftykins> again, lets try and keep the focus on Ubuntu please :)
[23:46] <AbuDhar> I see.
[23:46] <jbreeding28> daftykins: It was just an analogy!
[23:47] <AbuDhar> what's up with the win 10 privacy issues ?
[23:47] <jbreeding28> AbuDhar: Not appropriate for here. Just google it and find out all about it.
[23:47] <daftykins> AbuDhar: Windows chat is not permitted here
[23:48] <AbuDhar> but amazon does not have a keylogger right? I was told to turn it off when I installed Ubuntu the first time.
[23:48] <AbuDhar> just confirm that it's not true
[23:48] <jbreeding28> AbuDhar: Are you planning on using the Amazon program at all?
[23:48] <AbuDhar> No
[23:49] <jbreeding28> Then what's the problem?
[23:49] <AbuDhar> but they are installed by default.
[23:49] <daftykins> !privacy
[23:49] <daftykins> damn.
[23:49] <xangua> !adlens
[23:50] <daftykins> that's the one, ty xangua :)
[23:50] <AbuDhar> I don't use Unity. :)
[23:50] <yeats> AbuDhar: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html is probably what they're referring to, but calling it "spyware" is pretty inflamatory
[23:50] <AbuDhar> I am using Gnome 3
[23:50] <daftykins> AbuDhar: even less relevant then
[23:50] <yeats> AbuDhar: and this channel is more for technical support than this kind of discussion
[23:51] <yeats> AbuDhar: yeah, if you're not using Unity, there's not an issue at all
[23:51] <AbuDhar> fine then!
[23:51] <AbuDhar> as long as I can remain calm.
[23:58] <alexander64> join #ubuntu-offtopic