[04:10] <FAJ> Batsmasher:  i would suggest putting it in home, just so you can keep the files there w/o it being ugly ;)  just my 2 cents...
[04:10] <Agent_bob> GreedyB add it to /etc/fstab
[04:10] <FAJ> Batsmasher:  then:    sudo make
[04:10] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: rebooted to older kernel. still same issue. destination host unreachable.. this doesnt make any sense!!
[04:10] <FAJ> Batsmasher: then:   sudo make install
[04:10] <FAJ> that's it
[04:10] <Agent_bob> FAJ sudo for make     yuch.
[04:10] <Batsmasher> FAJ: ok thanks
[04:10] <unop> xjohnthomasx, let's verify your IP configurations
[04:11] <xjohnthomasx2> ok..
[04:11] <FAJ> Agent_bob: i literally compiled madiwif 2 days ago, it wants sudo for make.
[04:11] <xjohnthomasx2> source computer: eth0  <IP_ADDRESS>... bcast <IP_ADDRESS>.... mask <IP_ADDRESS>.....
[04:11] <tritium> FAJ: why did you compile it?  (It's distributed with ubuntu by default.)
[04:11] <Agent_bob> FAJ then i wouldn't make it.
[04:11] <Hilikus_> how do i allow a connection from my lan to a specific port? if i nmap i see the port open but when trying to connect from another comp in the network it doesnt work. uwf is disabled and iptables are all empty. whats blocking the connection??
[04:12] <xjohnthomasx2> destination computer: ip <IP_ADDRESS>...bcast <IP_ADDRESS>... mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:12] <xjohnthomasx2> both up and broadcast running multicast...
[04:12] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: get all that?
[04:12] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ what's listening on that port ?
[04:12] <unop> xjohnthomasx, yea, does ifconfig report only those interfaces as up? are there any others?
[04:12] <chamunks> Installing acidbase and acidlab in ubuntu from the repositories doesent seem to set up virtual hosts automatically does anyone know anything about this?
[04:12] <FAJ> tritium:  because my d-link card requires that it is compiled, and installed in ndiswrapper (it is currently an unsupported card, i found a way to get around it)
[04:12] <Prose> hey, printer is acting up, keep getting "parallel port is busy ; retrying in 30 seconds" in CUPS
[04:12] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob a backup daemon
[04:13] <tritium> FAJ: I find that hard to believe.
[04:13] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: source comput::: eth0... and then lo....
[04:13] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ nothing has to block a port if nothing is listening on it.    that's all i was getting at
[04:13] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob it is listening, if i telnet to localhost to that port on that computer it works
[04:13] <FAJ> tritium: well all i know is that my card is working; and it wasn't working w/o the madwifi installed.
[04:13] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: destination:::: eth0... wlan0.... lo...
[04:14] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ then i'd say the client is malconfigured
[04:14] <unop> xjohnthomasx, take wlan0 down here for the time being
[04:14] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob its no client, im testing it with telnet to that port
[04:14] <FAJ> tritium:  if you would like to troubleshoot it with me to get it to work correctly; then i would love to too ;)
[04:14] <tritium> FAJ: did you start with the wiki documentation?
[04:14] <Hilikus_> also, telnet to port 80 works, so i know they can talk, but something on my ubuntu machine is blocking the lan connection to that specific port
[04:14] <tritium> !madwifi | FAJ
[04:15] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: done
[04:15] <abe3k> hi, I have an application that only runs from the terminal, so I created a launcher to start it, my little problem is that everytime I start the launcher I see my application and an empty terminal window, my question is: how do I automatically hide the terminal window when the application starts ?
[04:15] <unop> xjohnthomasx, on the source computer, does  route -n  report a route for <IP_ADDRESS> pointing down the right interface .. likewise on the dest
[04:15] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_  ok you totally lost me.   1 "what is blocking port #"   2 "nothing is blocking port # , vecause i can telnet to it"   3 "what is blocking port # ? i'm using telnet to test it."      what did i miss ?
[04:15] <Batsmasher> lol I'm really sucking, do I change the directory to the tar.gz cause if so I cant!?
[04:16] <unop> xjohnthomasx, ideally, you should only see one route
[04:16] <FAJ> tritium:  my wifi card's chip is not supported right now:  atheros ar5416
[04:16] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: what do you mean? route -n produces... <IP_ADDRESS>... gateway <IP_ADDRESS>.... genmask <IP_ADDRESS>... U... 0   0    0   eth0
[04:17] <unop> xjohnthomasx, is that the only route?
[04:17] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: i also see <IP_ADDRESS>.... gateway <IP_ADDRESS>... <IP_ADDRESS>... wlan0..
[04:17] <tritium> FAJ: you're certain?  You tried the modules under /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ ?
[04:17] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob 1) yes, 2) nothing I CAN SEE (i.e. iptables or ufw) is blocking it, 3) i can telnet to A DIFFERENT PORT ON THAT MACHINE (i.e. its not that the machines cant see each other)
[04:17] <Batsmasher> lol I'm already confused
[04:17] <FAJ> tritium:  i dunno what that does ;)
[04:18] <unop> xjohnthomasx, are you sure you took wlan0 down? because you shouldn't have that second route there
[04:18] <xjohnthomasx2> i did... sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[04:18] <tritium> FAJ: one minute, please
[04:18] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ telnet to the port locally.
[04:18] <FAJ> tritium:  k,  we can pm if you're ok w/ it
[04:18] <Prose> CUPS-obsessive people in here ?
[04:18] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob that works, thats why i told you that there IS a daemon listening on that port, the same port i can not connect from the other machine
[04:18] <unop> xjohnthomasx,  try this.  sudo ifdown wlan0  #then check the route table again
[04:18] <abe3k> anyone ?
[04:19] <Batsmasher> can anyone tell me the file directory for madwifi-0.9.4 if its in the home folder
[04:19] <xjohnthomasx2> unop:
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ ok what's between the two boxen ?
[04:19] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: says interf wlan0 not config
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ physical route ?
[04:19] <FAJ> tritium:  there is nothing in the dir you pointed me too.
[04:19] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob router
[04:19] <tovella> Prose: "CUPS-obsessive..."  What does that mean?
[04:19] <tiggers> how do I disable the touchpad on my laptop under ubuntu 8.04?
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ there's your answer
[04:19] <Prose> tovella: anyone that is obssesed with CUPS
[04:20] <unop> xjohnthomasx, ok, that means it's down - still have the route for it ??
[04:20] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob i already tried forwarding the port and it still doestn work
[04:20] <Prose> abe3k: did you tell it to start in terminal ?
[04:20] <bobertdos> !touchpad > tiggers
[04:20] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: yes
[04:20] <Prose> abe3k: as in "run in terminal" ?
[04:20] <abe3k> Prose: yes
[04:20] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob theres nothing extra that i dont know of in ubuntu that could be blocking ports??
[04:20] <unop> xjohnthomasx, ok, sudo route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:20] <tovella> Prose: I use CUPS every day, but I'm not obessesive about it.
[04:21] <Agent_bob> Hilikus_ if you can locally telnet to ip:port     but you can't remotely telnet to same_ip:same_port  and iptables is clean, obvious answer is whatever is between the two boxen is blocking the sig.
[04:21] <Hilikus_> Agent_bob ok
[04:21] <tiggers> thanks bobertdos
[04:22] <Prose> tovella: does "parallel port busy; retry in 30 seconds'' sound familiar ?
[04:22] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: something wrong with your syntax
[04:22] <Prose> abe3k: well then the app will start in terminal, as specified
[04:22] <unop> xjohnthomasx, what's it complaining about?
[04:22] <xjohnthomasx2> no idea.. it gives a huge list of inet_route..
[04:22] <tovella> Prose: Not to me...I use USB & Network Printers.
[04:22] <Prose> abe3k: right-click it and go to permissions and select the option where it can be executed
[04:22] <GreedyB> Agent_bob, I tried adding what I thought should be in fstab but it didnt work when I restarted
[04:22] <Prose> tovella: hum ok
[04:22] <tovella> Prose: ...ethernet, I mean.
[04:23] <Agent_bob> GreedyB show me the line
[04:23] <Prose> tovella: hum I get that message when my printer is plugged in the USB port
[04:23] <abe3k> Prose: isn't there any command that hides the terminal window ? or even minimize it ?
[04:23] <Prose> tovella: well there is a button on the terminal window
[04:23] <Batsmasher> If i'm in terminal and its at /home/batsmasher/ do i cd to /madwifi-0.9.4/ or /home/batsmasher/madwifi-0.9.4?
[04:23] <en1gma> i installed eclipse for C++ and it didnt add a menu entry
[04:23] <Agent_bob> abe3k yakuake   f12  :)))
[04:24] <en1gma> how do you start it
[04:24] <unop> xjohnthomasx, hmm, try changing mask to netmask --   sudo route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: looking at the route command? it said basically "usage"....
[04:24] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: ok, one route in route -n
[04:24] <tovella> Prose: Do you mean the gnome-terminal window?  I don't have such a button.
[04:24] <abe3k> Agent_bob: f12 opens up my cdrom door xD
[04:25] <unop> xjohnthomasx, ok, now, assuming the interface with the cable in is eth0.  sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[04:25] <Prose> tovella: sorry I addresses my message wrong :(
[04:25] <unop> xjohnthomasx, same thing on the other machine too
[04:25] <Prose> tovella: I mean  when you go to <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[04:25] <Agent_bob> abe3k not using yakauke ?
[04:25] <Prose> abe3k: there is a minimize button on the terminal window, in theory
[04:26] <unop> abe3k, you could use the window menu which is invoked by  alt+space
[04:26] <tovella> Prose: Do you mean under "Printer State"?
[04:26] <Prose> tovella: indeed :)
[04:26] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: sudo ifdown eth0 .............  rtnetlink answers no such process...
[04:26] <ubuntu-ir> hello , i need a os that use minimum of ram , and support deb file and have a xfce desktop, can you help me ?
[04:26] <xjohnthomasx2> so i did sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[04:26] <xjohnthomasx2> and then sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:26] <xjohnthomasx2> yeah?
[04:26] <FloodBot2> xjohnthomasx2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <unop> xjohnthomasx, is that the only line in the error message?
[04:27] <abe3k> I really appreciate your suggestions guys, but I want to know of any command line that'll hide the terminal window for me
[04:27] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: yeah
[04:27] <unop> xjohnthomasx, hmm, let's hope it's nothing - yea, your ifconfigs should be ok
[04:27] <tovella> Prose: All my printers say "Printer State: idle, accepting jobs,  published."  It sounds like your printer may be miss-configured.  What model is it?  What tool did you use to configure it?
[04:28] <unop> xjohnthomasx, cross your fingers, touch wood and try a ping now
[04:28] <Killer--Tux> lol
[04:28] <sledge> Ping of death?
[04:28] <onemorevoice> has anyone had a problem with the video screen doesn't fill up the entire monitor?
[04:28] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: ping of no use... "connect network is unreachable"
[04:29] <sledge> onemorevoice: sounds like your video drivers aren't correct
[04:29] <sledge> or unsupoorted
[04:29] <onemorevoice> yeah
[04:29] <Prose> tovella: yeah thats the thing, it worked yesterday, as all does before not working. Just today, out of the blue, it stopped.. I used 'lsusb' and it was seen so I'm guessing it's physically connected
[04:29] <onemorevoice> what is weird is i think it's only with the new version of xorg
[04:29] <onemorevoice> what is the command to rebuild xorg ?
[04:30] <unop> xjohnthomasx, hmm, unplug the cable and switch ends - making sure they fit in snugly
[04:30] <nick_> what file do I look in to manually assign IP address / subnets?
[04:30] <tovella> Prose: Do you have a good backup?
[04:30] <unop> xjohnthomasx, :) i'm out of ideas - plus it's 4.30 am - i have to sleep now
[04:30] <Prose> tovella: totally not, I have partial backup of important files but not of sys config
[04:30] <Agent_bob> nick_ /etc/network/interfaces
[04:31] <unop> Skky, /etc/network/interfaces  - the manpage is at  man 5 interfaces
[04:31] <Prose> tovella: you propose I nuke the OS ?
[04:31] <Skky> thanks!
[04:32]  * unop &
[04:32] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what kind of urls are loaded through the tor http proxy and what kind are loaded through the tor socks proxy?
[04:32] <tovella> Prose: Sounds like some file corruption may have occurred.  I would (from the gnome-panel) go to System>Administration>Printers, where you should find the Printer Configuration Utility.  From there you can delete and re-add the printer with the correct settings.
[04:33] <liuxg515> hello, everybody. I update my system to 8.10, and alsa could not work now, how should I do?
[04:33] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: i switched ends, and it still produces the same outcome!
[04:33] <hvgotcodes> can someone tell me how to configure ext3 to commit less often?
[04:33] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: who can you recommend here that is genius that can help?
[04:33] <Prose> tovella: so just re-add the printer ?
[04:33] <Agent_bob> !intrepid > liuxg515
[04:33] <Prose> tovella: I'm going to go through CUPS I think, it seems more simple to me :)
[04:33] <tovella> Prose: exactly, but delete it first.
[04:34] <Prose> tovella: delete the printer then add it again ?
[04:34] <tovella> Prose: yes, exactly.
[04:34] <xjohnthomasx2> unop: can you recommend anyone?
[04:36] <xjohnthomasx2> can anyone help me with my crossover cat5e cable/network setup??? i have the cable in. i set the ip's and same netmask. i had it working an hour ago. now it just says "ntwork unreachable", and i have no idea whyyyy?????
[04:36] <Prose> tovella: is  this supposed to happen on a regular basis ? I might as well make a script
[04:37] <Skky> question: im trying to open a virtual machine (that i've done before) but now i'm getting an error: "Cannot open the disk /media/My Passport/vmachines/ubuntu-804-RH5.vmdk or one of the snapshot disks it depends on.  Reason: read-only file system"
[04:37] <onemorevoice> hrm
[04:37] <Skky> why am I now getting this error?  I haven't changed anything
[04:37] <Agent_bob> xjohnthomasx2 i have setup several for my own use.  but never had the problems you are having.    sorry i couldn't be of more assistance.
[04:37] <tovella> Prose: It's NOT supposed to happen, but if some data/file corruption occurred, stuff like that can happen.
[04:37] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what kind of urls are loaded through the tor http proxy and what kind are loaded through the tor socks proxy?
[04:38] <Agent_bob> xjohnthomasx2 you and unop covered all i know.
[04:38] <Skky> Is it a problem with the virtual machine file or my external harddrive that hosts it?
[04:38] <upgrdman> hello. i installed mythtv and it's collection of dependencies, but i no longer need it. is there a way to remove mythtv and the packaged that only it depends upon?
[04:38] <onemorevoice> is there a seperate command from "sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg" to reconfigure the video drivers? All it seems to be doing is asking me about keyboard config.
[04:39] <Prose> tovella: ok we'll I'll do that and come back crying :) thanks for assistance
[04:39] <tovella> Prose: ...can happen on any operating system, where data corruption has occurred.
[04:39] <tovella> Prose: no problem...
[04:40] <andresj> "ffdemux_swf: Element doesn't implement handling of this stream. Please file a bug." appears on totem when its time to play the next item on my playlist. the item is a youtube video (using the YouTube plugin)
[04:41] <GreedyB> What would make transparency not work on my machine?
[04:41] <tictac232434> hey
[04:41] <Chwoka> Hey Killer--Tux!
[04:41] <pengo> why does audio in audacity only work sporadically?
[04:41] <Chwoka> How the heck did you leak into #wuw
[04:41] <Skky> My redhat vm won't open either
[04:41] <tictac232434> I had a quick question if anyone had some time on Codec's and Movieplayer.
[04:42] <pengo> WHY
[04:42] <Killer--Tux> Chwoka> hello
[04:42] <Chwoka> Hey
[04:42] <Chwoka> NOW TELL ME
[04:42] <Chwoka> WHY THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN
[04:42] <Chwoka> HOW DID YOU FIND YOUR WAY THERE
[04:42] <tictac232434> ?
[04:42] <RickZilla> How can I move a file from my desktop to my etc folder via terminal?
[04:42] <Agent_bob> well. if no body has a clue*four to bat me around with.   i'll take my silent box and leave.    the !sound trouble shooting page fails me with the first command...  and doesn't get any better.
[04:42] <tictac232434> !Terminal
[04:43] <pengo> !sound
[04:43] <Agent_bob> yes that one.
[04:43] <Palace_Chan> what option do i give to kill in my terminal to see the signal numbers ?
[04:43] <hvgotcodes> how do i change how often an ext3 file system writes to its journal?
[04:43] <Palace_Chan> i want to know what signal 112
[04:44] <dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  the tune2fs command can do that I Think... it can tune most everytying else.
[04:44] <Storrgie> I have installed the alpha of 8.10... will it update to the beta and to the final when they are released?
[04:44] <tictac232434> When any of the tech support has time lemme know.
[04:44] <sifunk> Palace_Chan: you might need to look that up in the kernel source
[04:44] <Agent_bob> dr_willis i thought that was a sysctl thang ?
[04:44] <dr_willis> hvgotcodes,  if that command cant do it..  You may want to check its man page. it may suggest other tools.
[04:45] <dr_willis> Agent_bob,  may be.. ive never wanted to tweak that specific setting.. Not sure why you would want to.
[04:45] <sifunk> .. it is likely something #define'd in the signals header file
[04:45] <PovAddict> I'm in Argentina, and my clock jumped an hour forwards (changed timezone to DST); however, it's supposed to start on the 19th (according to the Intertubes)
[04:45] <Agent_bob> dr_willis so a lappy drive don't spin up every ?? seconds.
[04:45] <hvgotcodes> dr_willis: i htought it was a configuration option...
[04:45] <Prose> tovella: yeah you were right
[04:45] <Prose> tovella: reinstalling it did the trick
[04:45] <Storrgie> I have installed the alpha of 8.10... will it update to the beta and to the final when they are released?
[04:46] <dr_willis> Agent_bob,  never noticed it being an issue.. of course if you actually are USing the laptop... :) i guess it dont matter.
[04:46] <Agent_bob> dr_willis on slackware i set mine to not sync at all automaticly.  the hd would power down and set there until i issued a "sync" command.
[04:46] <Prose> tovella: I think what broke it was that some point, I tried to print a "FlashPaper" wanna-be PDF file that said it weighted 170MB for 15 pages :S
[04:46] <dr_willis> Hmm... I thought the journel got updated as it was used.. it wouldent just wait a while then update it...
[04:46] <tovella> Prose: Ahh, OK.
[04:47] <dr_willis> or else we are confusing several related 'things' again.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> dr_willis prolly.
[04:47] <onemorevoice> anyone know the specific command to change my video card drivers? tried reconfig xorg and it just appears to affect my keyboard config.
[04:47] <headcheese> is there a partitioning tool that I can use in gdm to make use of some unused space?
[04:47] <Prose> tovella: so thanks :)
[04:47] <neftune> ll PovAddict
[04:47] <Storrgie> is there a place i can go to ask questions about 8.10?
[04:47] <tovella> Prose: in any case, I would still do something to improve you backups, just in case you're hard drive is starting to have problems.  All hard drives fail, eventually.
[04:47] <Prose> tovella: yeah I figure also
[04:48] <neftune> PovAddict: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:48] <Agent_bob> dr_willis actually i don't think it was ext3 on that setup.   ext2   but anyway.  it let the hdd power off until actually needed.
[04:48] <PovAddict> neftune: hardy
[04:48] <Prose> tovella: not sure how o proceed though... RAID is too complicated for me at this point
[04:48] <Agent_bob> actually
[04:48] <Prose> tovella: so something like Clonezilla ?
[04:48] <jeeves__> how do I set up the VNC server if it's on a headless system?
[04:48] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  i ssh in, and install vnc4server, then run 'vncserver' as needed
[04:48] <PovAddict> neftune: I just posted to the tzdata mailing list
[04:48] <Agent_bob> headcheese not in gdm.   gdm is the login manager.
[04:49] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  vnc shareing the 'current' desktop is just one limited way it can be used. :)
[04:49] <Storrgie> is anyone running ubuntu 8.10?
[04:49] <Prose> Storrgie: whats the problem?
[04:49] <neftune> PovAddict: what time are you getting? I get 01:49
[04:49] <headcheese> Agent_bob: Awesome, thanks for the clarification.  How can I make a partition for extra data, if I have unused space?
[04:49] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I just need to configure MythTV, but for some reason, no one ever thought that you might want to set it up on a headless system
[04:49] <Agent_bob> headcheese gparted
[04:49] <PovAddict> neftune: exactly... http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=51 says 0:49
[04:49] <Prose> neftune: do you live in the Atlantic ocea?
[04:50] <PovAddict> neftune: and so does my clock on the wall
[04:50] <Storrgie> Prose: I just want to know if the release i installed will keep itself up to day... as in I installed the alpha release 3 days ago and i want to know if it is up to date with the beta release
[04:50] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  thanks.
[04:50] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[04:50] <tovella> If you have an external USB or similar drive you could install something like sbackup.  You could even do backups to another drive on a network, it you have that kind of setup, and access to some space on a networked-drive.
[04:50] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  ive sssh'd to my mythtv server, and ran mythsetup befor. it appeared locally. :) just dont expect to watch tv  that way.. but i could configure it
[04:50] <tovella> Prose: If you have an external USB or similar drive you could install something like sbackup.  You could even do backups to another drive on a network, it you have that kind of setup, and access to some space on a networked-drive.
[04:50] <Prose> tovella: I have both of those, I can even connect a second IDE drive
[04:51] <Agent_bob> headcheese cli tools like   cfdisk   and  mkfs.<type>   are installed by default too.
[04:51] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I have 2 sat tuners and a coax tuner.  I just can't figure out how to configure it.
[04:51] <ricgomez> hi, is there any way to make a filesystem or directory that store files in compress mode?
[04:51] <Prose> tovella: the question is how do I backup my server so if it fails, I just do a couple of commands and it copies the backed up one on a new disk ?
[04:51] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  more then i had on mine.. there is the #mythbuntu channel
[04:51] <Prose> tovella: hmm and I guess I better make sure the backup hdd doesn't fail and I don't notice or something
[04:51] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I asked there, and they wern't much help.
[04:51] <Storrgie> Prose: any help?
[04:52] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  I am not familure with those, is gparted gui based?
[04:52] <Agent_bob> headcheese yes
[04:52] <tictac232434> Anyone know anything about Mediaplayer or Codec's errors?
[04:52] <tovella> Prose: the IDE drive might work out even better (unless you have and E-SATA drive and connection)
[04:52] <clayg> anyone gotten gmailfs to work and if so is it pretty sweet?
[04:52] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  You rock!
[04:52] <Agent_bob> headcheese i know.
[04:52] <tictac232434> lol
[04:52] <PovAddict> clayg: I just know it's against GMail terms of use
[04:52] <Agent_bob> pfft   heheh.   anyway.   youre welcome.
[04:53] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  didnt let me finish.... you rock!  less the modesty :P
[04:53] <tovella> Prose: I use backuppc to backup all the machines on my network.  It's not as easy to setup as sbackup, but it's much more robust.
[04:53] <tictac232434> hmm
[04:53] <tictac232434> Agent Bob could you help meh please?
[04:53] <Prose> Storrgie: sorry I was thinking, not sure, but the release candidate is coming out in one month, not sure why you trouble yourself
[04:53] <PovAddict> neftune?
[04:53] <danielson> What kernel is ubuntu 8.04 based off of?
[04:53] <Prose> tovella: robust ? as in reliable ?
[04:54] <Prose> tovella: is it a little bit GUI ? can it Livecd?
[04:54] <Agent_bob> tictac232434 not on that issue.  file systems and devices    sub system cli is my strong suit and it's kinda weak.
[04:54] <Storrgie> i would like to use 8.10 now
[04:54] <PovAddict> danielson: ask "uname -r"
[04:54] <tictac232434> oic ty though
[04:54] <neftune> PovAddict: that's definitely a bug
[04:54] <Agent_bob> tictac232434 welcome.
[04:54] <danielson> in terminal
[04:54] <tictac232434> Do you know of anyone who might be able to help me Agent Bob?
[04:54] <sether52> who would be able to help me with an internet problem?
[04:55] <Prose> Storrgie: hum I see, well, you're supposed to be able to update kernel and stuff but I'm not sure it's as good as getting the real one when it comes out..... ask your question again in this channel in a couple of minutes I guess
[04:55] <tictac232434> Danielson: I u trying to learn terminal?
[04:55] <Agent_bob> tictac232434 for the record, now you see the irony in "me rocking"  :)
[04:55] <tictac232434> Are*
[04:55] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  In gparted it only shows my software raid and nothing else.  Even the option to make a new partition is greyed out.  Any suggestions?
[04:55] <tictac232434> yea lol but still worth a shot
[04:55] <tovella> Prose: no as in flexibility.  It allows for all sorts of different configurations.  Take a look some information about it at http://backuppc.sourceforge.net
[04:55] <tictac232434> I am almost absolutely new to Ubuntu....
[04:55] <tictac232434> I am a huge Windows person
[04:55] <PovAddict> neftune: confused me for a moment... "damn it's that late already?!" then saw my physical clock differed
[04:55] <headcheese> Agent_bob:  Never mind, figured it out.
[04:55] <amenado> sether52-> clarify your problems be specific
[04:55] <Agent_bob> headcheese ummm start it with gksudo ?
[04:56] <Prose> tictac232434: you were the dude who the gpu.. how did that turn out ?
[04:56] <jeeves__> dr_willis, ok, I'm lost, how do I configure this?
[04:56] <ziroday> tictac232434: do you have a question?
[04:56] <tictac232434> Yes I do
[04:56] <tictac232434> And Prose: it turned out fine
[04:56] <ziroday> tictac232434: great, what is it? also see !address
[04:56] <Prose> tictac232434: cool :)
[04:56] <tovella> Prose: I've got food on the stove...gotta go.
[04:56] <tictac232434> Ok Zirodday: I am getting an error message when i try to play a regular MP3
[04:56] <tictac232434> and the error message is
[04:57] <sether52> well - - when I have dual booted using wubi - when I use vista my net is fast - when I use ubuntu it takes forever for firefox or chromium to pull up a page
[04:57] <tictac232434> 1 second please
[04:57] <GreedyB> any idea why screen resolution area says my max refresh rate is 52hz when I run 75 in windows?
[04:57] <tictac232434> "Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument"
[04:58] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Can anyone recommend a good Window Decorator (lightweight would be nice)? Emerald crashes a lot for me, and compiz-decorator is way too buggy
[04:58] <Agent_bob> sether52 may not be the issue,  but you could try disabling ipv6  that was an issue a release or two ago,  there should be doc's on howto.
[04:58] <ziroday> tictac232434: Do you have the codecs installed and what music player are you using?
[04:58] <Prose> tovella: cool html gui
[04:58] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  luckly for you i JUST installed the stuff on my other machine.. Install vnc4server package, as the user , run 'vncserver',  make a password.
[04:58] <tictac232434> Ziro: I tried installing both but it did not work out for some reason...
[04:58] <sether52> ok - i'll try that
[04:59] <ziroday> tictac232434: which media player are you using?
[04:59] <tictac232434> Ziro: In privious installs of Ubuntu it normally works.
[04:59] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  then i edited the .vnc/xstartup file to run the window manager i wanted to run. (i use jwm, it defaults to twm, which is NOT installed)
[04:59] <tictac232434> The Standard "MoviePlayer"
[04:59] <tictac232434> Ziro: I have tried others and Mplayer works but gives me same error and its quite annoying...
[04:59] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  i then was sure i killed the running (with no widnow manager ) vncsession,  with 'vncserver -kill :1'  then i restarted it with 'vncserver', then i connected to the vnc session with any vncclient you like.
[04:59] <Fiz> ok so i have a unique deal i need to setup some type of remote administrator remotely on a machine i have root ssh access todo
[05:00] <ziroday> tictac232434: okay thats called totem, if other players give you that error it probably means you have not installed the correct codecs
[05:00] <Fiz> im on a windows box how would i do this only using ssh to set it up
[05:00] <ziroday> !mp3 | tictac232434 you need to install these
[05:00] <Fiz> some type of free vnc i suppose?
[05:00] <tictac232434> Ziro: Ok I will try then report back... if I need further assistance thank you
[05:01] <PovAddict> Fiz: I don't know of any non-free vnc
[05:01] <dr_willis> Fiz,  vnc is handy, freenx is also similer and handy.
[05:01] <ziroday> tictac232434: good luck
[05:01] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Can anyone recommend a good Window Decorator (lightweight would be nice)? Emerald crashes a lot for me, and compiz-decorator is way too buggy
[05:01] <dr_willis> FreshUbuntuNoob,  theres only like 4 of them.. :) guess you use the gtk, or kde ones..
[05:01] <ziroday> FreshUbuntuNoob: you can use metacity (default gnome one) or xfwm (xfce one)
[05:01] <PovAddict> dr_willis: there are dozens
[05:01] <FreshUbuntuNoob> dr_willis, I am on Gnome, that filters out the KDE ones
[05:02] <Naomarik> can soemone check out this error whenever i run apt-get
[05:02] <FreshUbuntuNoob> dr_willis, ziroday, the compiz-decorator is metacity right?
[05:02] <Naomarik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54105/
[05:02] <sifunk> FreshUbuntuNoob: you can try out wmii if you don't mind something new... i've never looked back since i first tried it
[05:02] <PovAddict> FreshUbuntuNoob: you want just a different *decorator* without changing your window manager (compiz)?
[05:02] <ziroday> FreshUbuntuNoob: not sure
[05:02] <neftune> PovAddict: well, maybe not. is clarin.com a big/respected news site in argentina?
[05:02] <dr_willis> PovAddict,  perhaps we are confusing what we mean then..     http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Decoration       only lists 3
[05:02] <PovAddict> neftune: yes
[05:03] <FreshUbuntuNoob> PovAddict, Yes. Emerald crashes every 2 hours and compiz-decorator has a weird refresh problem
[05:03] <jeeves__> dr_willis, what am I connecting to it with?
[05:03] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I've tried a VNC client, but it didn't work
[05:03] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  any vncclient app you want. I use ultravnc for windows..
[05:03] <reyrey> anybody else already trying out 8.10beta on xubuntu? if so is anybody else having issues with firefox crashing much more frequent than before?
[05:03] <FreshUbuntuNoob> sifunk, As long as it doesn't get on my nerves
[05:03] <FreshUbuntuNoob> sifunk, Is it available in the repos?
[05:03] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  be sure to give it the ip and port # of 1
[05:03] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  ip#:1
[05:03] <jeeves__> dr_willis, syntax?
[05:03] <ziroday> Naomarik: restart your machine and try again
[05:04] <dr_willis> vncserver ip#:1
[05:04] <Naomarik> ziroday: this occrus after restarts
[05:04] <Naomarik> i've actually had this problem several restarts ago
[05:04] <Fiz> dr_willis, whats it called in apt-get?
[05:04] <PovAddict> hmm I can only find full window managers
[05:04] <tictac232434> Ziro: Did not work....
[05:05] <tictac232434> Ziro: Installed and reinstalled Gstreamer which is the correct one
[05:05] <dr_willis> Fiz,  'vnc4server' is what i use
[05:05] <tictac232434> Ziro: brb
[05:05] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  oops..i think i got the wrong name for the vncviewer
[05:05] <pk1122> hi
[05:05] <jeeves__> dr_willis, lol.  that might make a diff
[05:06] <pk1122> how to put the password on a folder ?
[05:06] <regeya> HI!
[05:06] <tictac232434> Ziro: you there?
[05:06] <pk1122> i want to make a folder password protected
[05:06] <regeya> oy vey
[05:06] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I'm getting a "conneciton refused"
[05:06] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  look at apt-cache search vncviewer :) thers a few neat tools in there. Ive not noticed some of those befor
[05:06] <PovAddict> pk1122: you can't
[05:06] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  be sure to use the right ip and port.
[05:06] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  also bne sure the vncserver IS running.
[05:07] <Fiz> dr_willis, small problem with vnc4server the config is all gui based
[05:07] <dr_willis> jeeves__,  do NOT just use the hostname. Unless you can ping it..
[05:07] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Ok, then let me tackle the base problem. With Envy, I get weird issues, when some items on my screen, like a GUI update of e.g. new text coming up somewhere, isn't refreshed properly. It only refreshes about 1/5. Is this a known issue with Nvidia?
[05:07] <Fiz> i only have ssh to the server
[05:07] <neftune> PovAddict: because clarin.com is showing 02:07
[05:07] <pk1122> how to change the password of the user
[05:07] <dr_willis> Fiz,  Huh? I can configure vnc4server with out any gui.. i dont even know of  a gui to confogure it.
[05:07] <PovAddict> pk1122: remove permissions for other users (chmod 600) and rely on your user account password to protect you
[05:07] <Fiz> dr_willis, how?
[05:07] <Fiz> digitalfiz@digitalfiz-desktop:~$ sudo vncconfig
[05:07] <Fiz> vncconfig: unable to open display ""
[05:07] <dr_willis> Fiz,  you ssh in, run vncserver,  edit the .vnc/xstartup as your need for your user first.
[05:07] <jeeves__> dr_willis, I can see the server
[05:07] <pk1122> PovAddict, how should i change the password ?
[05:08] <dr_willis> Fiz,  ive never ran vncconfig. :)  Not sure what there is to confiogure it.. i just tweak the xstartup file
[05:08] <reyrey> i say again lol anybody have trouble with firefox 3 crashing more recently after xubuntu 8.10beta installed?
[05:09] <PovAddict> neftune: wonder what OS they run ;)
[05:09] <dr_willis> Fiz,  vncconfig - does very little actual configuration.. Its just a utility for clipbpard and other features. it seems
[05:09] <Fiz> ah
[05:09] <tictac232434> reyrey: you might not wanan go beta if your not ready for possible problems...
[05:09] <Agent_bob> reyrey i'll say again  #ubuntu+1  for the beta software.
[05:09] <Fiz> ok well i started vnc4server so now im installing ultravnc to connect
[05:10] <pk1122> PovAddict, how should i change the password ?
[05:10] <reyrey> agent_bob true but like everything in beta you can't just say oh there is no fix cause its beta.. its beta cause we looking for fixes and in this case am simply askng if anybody has found a fix yet being its going to be stable in 20 or so days
[05:10] <neftune> PovAddict: I have no idea about this site, but http://www.tn.com.ar/ too
[05:11] <dr_willis> Fiz,  a common issie people have with 'vncserver' is that if you run it several times.. you WILL have several instances going,  be sure to kill any you dont need with' vncserver -kill :#'   in case things seem weird
[05:11] <PovAddict> pk1122: given your questions, I'll guess you don't know enough to use the terminal; and *I* don't know how to change it from the GUI
[05:11] <supra_boyz> supra
[05:12] <RickZilla> ok, here's my next question...I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, so how do I get mp3's to play?
[05:12] <reyrey> has anybody managed to get handbrake/rippedwire to install on xubuntu?
[05:13] <badfish> rickzilla: should work in rhythmbox
[05:13] <FreshUbuntuNoob> With Envy, I get weird issues, when some items on my screen, like a GUI update of e.g. new text coming up somewhere, isn't refreshed properly. It only refreshes about 1/5. Is this a known issue with Nvidia? Example Screenshot from Firefox on Wiki: http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrh3.png
[05:13] <badfish> or just about anything
[05:13] <PovAddict> neftune: it's from the same group, sort of
[05:13] <onemorevoice> anyone know the specific command to change your video drivers? reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't appear to show an option to change video card
[05:14] <Fiz> dr_willis, what do i need to do in the xstartup or whatever cuz when i start the server it starts but i cant connect to it
[05:14] <niccholaspage> E: Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.27-4-generic
[05:15] <niccholaspage> Any help....
[05:15] <niccholaspage> Need this package.
[05:15] <dr_willis> Fiz,  edit the file. and make it load a window manager thats actually installed.. it defaults to 'twm' which isent even installed.
[05:15] <FreshUbuntuNoob> niccholaspage, Isn't that the latest unstable build of the kernel?
[05:16] <dr_willis> Fiz,  i perfer icewm, or jwm, for my vnc sessions
[05:16] <Fiz> whats installed in ubuntu gnome right?
[05:16] <Fiz> i like fluxbox
[05:16] <niccholaspage> FreshUbuntuNoob: I run Ubuntu Intrepid
[05:16] <dr_willis> Fiz,  then install and use fluxbox.
[05:16] <FreshUbuntuNoob> niccholaspage, Please try the beta channel, I forgot the name of that channel
[05:17] <niccholaspage> FreshUbuntuNoob: I have no idea what the name of it is.
[05:17] <Fiz> !intrepid
[05:17] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Fiz, Thank you :)
[05:17] <onemorevoice> Anyone /join #ubuntu+!
[05:17] <reyrey> handbrakegtk installation and installing mono on xubuntu anybody?
[05:18] <niccholaspage> Ugh
[05:18] <niccholaspage> I wish there was a package
[05:18] <niccholaspage> I have my own distro and I need to release the new version on the same day as Intrepid
[05:19] <afallenhope> hey how can I add apache, mysql, and snort to my start/boot up?
[05:19] <salamandyr> i managed to get my usb wireless stick showing as a wlan0 on ifconfig, but not sure how to set my wireless network or login ?
[05:19] <afallenhope> aka startup scripts
[05:19] <Fiz> dr_willis, does it run on a certain port? do i have to specify it in ultrvnc?
[05:20] <upgrdman> is there anyway to have synaptic or apt look for unneeded packages? i have removed some packages that i didnt need, but i know they had some dependencies that are no longer needed.
[05:20] <Agent_bob> ok i'm went.
[05:21] <reyrey> no help on handbrakegtk installation? welli i ask a differ question? anybody can help me see why my sd cards are not being recognized on two different usb readers adn two seperate usb inputs on xubuntu? my other memory cards seem to work though and i confirmed the sd cards work and they can be read on windows
[05:21] <xjohnthomasx> IntuitiveNipple: had to switch to this nick... you there? pm me??
[05:21] <dr_willis> Fiz,  ip#:#      where the 2nd # is the vnc 'port' the vncserver tool tells you, starts at 1, and works up , one for each vncserver instance going.
[05:21] <dr_willis>  willis@black:~/.vnc(.001 Mb)$ vncserver
[05:21] <dr_willis>   ---> New 'black:1 (willis)' desktop is black:1
[05:21] <FreshUbuntuNoob> upgrdman, You want apt-get or aptitude?
[05:22] <upgrdman> i dont think i have  aptitude, so apt-get
[05:22] <dr_willis> Fiz,  be carefull to NOT use the hostname - unless your hosts file is correct, or othersize you can  access the machines by hostname.. use ip# if in doubt.
[05:22] <FreshUbuntuNoob> upgrdman, sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:22] <Fiz> i got in dr_willis tyvm
[05:22] <upgrdman> FreshUbuntuNoob: thanks
[05:22] <headcheese> whats the command to delete a folder?
[05:23] <DBurke> Would people be opposed to me linking to a forum post I made for a problem I'm having?
[05:23] <DBurke> rmdir if I'm not mistaken.
[05:23] <FreshUbuntuNoob> headcheese, rmdir if the directory is empty
[05:24] <Naomarik> need help with touchepad, it's jumping around randomly and acting reallly weird when I touch it
[05:24] <headcheese> Freshubuntunoob:  it isnt an empty dir.
[05:24] <Hew> headcheese: rm -r
[05:25] <headcheese> thanks
[05:25] <afallenhope> hey how can I add apache, mysql, and snort to my start/boot up?
[05:25] <afallenhope> aka startup scripts
[05:26] <DBurke> I've been wondering the same.
[05:27] <DBurke> If anyone would be so kind as to add some suggestions to this forum.  I could greatly use some help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938298
[05:27] <arquebus> !restricted
[05:27] <Sonja> how do i open System > Admin > Screens and Graphics ? it's not there anymore
[05:28] <dr_willis> DBurke,  you may want to summarize what the problem is about.
[05:29] <FreshUbuntuNoob> DBurke, You have vesa driver inuse
[05:29] <FreshUbuntuNoob> DBurke, It doesn't support Compiz
[05:29] <Sonja> i'm trying to change the screen resolution, but my option is not even listed
[05:29] <Sonja> it only has crappy ones listed
[05:29] <DBurke> Fresh:  I know that, but the only reason why that driver is in use is because I had ubuntu tried to configure itself.
[05:29] <Sonja> maybe i have to tell ubuntu which graphics card i has
[05:30] <DBurke> I have an intel card.
[05:30] <DBurke> I don't know how to tell it to use that driver again.
[05:32] <FreshUbuntuNoob> DBurke, Sorry, I have no experience with Intel Graphic cards. My old PC has it, but I don't even know/care what it runs :)
[05:33] <Fiz> dr_willis, ty for all your help :)
[05:33] <DBurke> Fresh: Do you know how I might specify to ubuntu what card I'm running?
[05:33] <dr_willis> Fiz,  ive twiddled with vnc for years. :)  its an amazing tool
[05:34] <dr_willis> Fiz,  read the 'vncserver' script (its what you run, but its just a large script for the most part) - it has some neat info
[05:34] <DBurke> If I enter it in xorg will it have what it needs to use that information?  aka Will it know what drivers to use if I just enter the name of the card in?
[05:34] <Fiz> dr_willis, will do :)
[05:34] <headcheese> I am trying to sudo cp -a /home/* /mnt  basically copy all of my /home to a new /home partition that I made and it errors out saying that I dont have permissions to copy .gvfs
[05:35] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: you should use rsync -aS instead of cp
[05:35] <reyrey> quit
[05:35] <reyrey> leaving
[05:35] <Fiz> dr_willis, can i attach it to an already running wm?
[05:35] <FreshUbuntuNoob> DBurke, the xorg.conf has a Section with your Video Card, and driver used for that Video Card. If you do mess enough with xorg, your GUI might not even boot
[05:35] <headcheese> danbh_intrepid:  thanks I will try that, what does rsync do?
[05:36] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: its a backup command, that has allot of features
[05:36] <headcheese> danbh_intrepid:  Still getting "rsync: readlink "/home/headcheese/.gvfs" failed: Permission denied (13)"
[05:36] <dr_willis> Fiz,  not really. Theres some ways to do it. but its always  been sort of  flakey to try to do that.
[05:37] <dr_willis> Fiz,  gnome and kde both CAN do it. since they have their own vncserver feature built in.
[05:37] <Fiz> guess i should look into gnomes vnc stuff eh
[05:37] <Fiz> this works but id like to see whats on the desktop
[05:38] <dr_willis> Fiz,  but  thenyou have to login to gnome first,, and start the service... and if you cant login to gnome on the remote box... well...
[05:38] <kenalex> does linux have apps like Dream weaver to aid in website design ?
[05:38] <dr_willis> Fiz,  you could just run gnome-session from the xstartup file
[05:38] <danbh_intrepid> !html > kenalex
[05:38] <dr_willis> Fiz,  or you can make vncserver spawn as needed, and show the GDM login screen
[05:38] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: you could pastebin the whole command you are using
[05:39] <kenalex> danbh_intrepid:i know html. i just want to know if there are any tools aid in the desigining of websites ?
[05:39] <headcheese> danbh_intrepid:  really no need, just sudo rsync -aS /home/* /mnt
[05:40] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: try sudo rsync -aS /home/. /mnt/.
[05:40] <danbh_intrepid> kenalex: did you look at the message that ubottu sent you?
[05:40] <kenalex> yes i have been to that site
[05:40] <vasilisa> ok im at wits end trying to make this ATI driver work right in feisty
[05:40] <kenalex> so there no tools like dreamweaver ?
[05:40] <Geoffrey2> i seem to have lost wireless on my laptop....
[05:41] <headcheese> danbh_intrepid:  same error "rsync: readlink "/home/headcheese/.gvfs" failed: Permission denied (13)"
[05:41] <Dusty_> what seems to be the problem vasilisa
[05:41] <vasilisa> now i have crazy colors everywhere
[05:41] <en1gma> how do i remove a enviromental path that i have a duplicate of
[05:41] <en1gma> en1gma@en1gma-desktop:~$ export $PATH
[05:41] <en1gma> bash: export: `/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/cuda/bin::/usr/local/cuda/bin': not a valid identifier
[05:41] <vasilisa> Dusty_: No matter what i do, it fails me. I used the latest driver for my card off their site, followed all the tutorials, and now ogre3d's samples are all messed up in color
[05:41] <Dusty_> @vasilia, first you need to find out if it's actually your driver
[05:42] <vasilisa> Dusty_: I turned compositing off, i ran aticonfig....
[05:42] <danbh_intrepid> kenalex: did you see the list of tools?
[05:42] <Dusty_> @vasilia, take a screenshot and see if your screenshot shows the funky colors
[05:42] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Well, i donwloaded the one for my card
[05:42] <vasilisa> ok
[05:42] <Geoffrey2> it was working fine earlier, now I can't hit my router at all
[05:42] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, if the screenshot shows the funky colors, it's your drivers, otherwise it's your monitor
[05:43] <dr_willis> en1gma,  its 'export PATH'  using $PATH subsututed the value for the variable in your command.
[05:43] <kenalex> no
[05:43] <en1gma> ok let me try
[05:43] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Funky colors in screenshot: check
[05:44] <Dusty_> ok so it's your video card(which is actually a good thing in this case)
[05:44] <enaner> hi i need help
[05:44] <dr_willis> en1gma,  its not really going to hurt anything, but you should see whats setting that extra dir in there.. and fix it.
[05:44] <en1gma> dr_willis, 'export PATH' returns zero results
[05:44] <enaner> i need help following the instructions on this site : http://www.jamminnet.com/rockbandguitarandlinux ...
[05:44] <enaner> first example tells me to make something
[05:44] <vasilisa> Dusty_: www.vasilisagames.com/shotz.png
[05:44] <enaner> how do i do this?
[05:44] <dr_willis> en1gma,  you should read up on bash a little...  and how PATHS and enviromental variables work
[05:44] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, what video card are you using ?
[05:44] <vasilisa> Dusty_: ATI X700
[05:45] <en1gma> dr_willis, i was just following a guide
[05:45] <dr_willis> en1gma,  export PATH  - exports the PATH variable to all child processes..
[05:45] <en1gma> but i agree with you
[05:45] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Unfortunately
[05:45] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, is that a benchmark utility you have running ?
[05:45] <dr_willis> en1gma,  if you want to set the PATH, then set it.. export PATH='set/the/new/path/here'
[05:45] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: have you checked permissions on that file?  maybe even root does not have read permissions or something
[05:45] <vasilisa> Dusty_: A what?
[05:45] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Its one of the Ogre samples. they all do that
[05:45] <en1gma> ohhh
[05:45] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, onr your screen, you have a FPS counter and other such things
[05:46] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Yeah they put those in there
[05:46] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, was wondering if that was some kind of benchmark utility
[05:46] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Thats part of the program.
[05:46] <en1gma> dr_willis, and it will create a new "PATH" that will be added to $PATH?
[05:46] <dr_willis> en1gma,  and to see the current path use . echo $PATH
[05:46] <Distort1> I have 1500~ files that I need to compress into .zip files seperately, anyone have a solution?
[05:46] <danielson> Trying to copy a folder to /usr/src in GNOME, permissions denied
[05:46] <danielson> What's the workaround?
[05:46] <en1gma> wait
[05:46] <en1gma> wait
[05:46] <dr_willis> en1gma,  No.. it will set it exactlyu to what you tell it to.
[05:46] <en1gma> i think i told you wrong
[05:46] <Dusty_> @vasilisa, does that program using direct x to render those images or openGL ?
[05:46] <FloodBot2> en1gma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <jim_p> Distort1: batch script
[05:46] <Distort1> jim_p: English please :x
[05:47] <vasilisa> Dusty_: Im in linux, so openGL naturally
[05:47] <en1gma> en1gma@en1gma-desktop:~$ echo $PATH
[05:47] <en1gma> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/cuda/bin::/usr/local/cuda/bin
[05:47] <dr_willis> en1gma,  theres common 'tricks' to append a new directory to the path.. but its not as easy to remove one.
[05:47] <danielson> How can I copy to /usr/src/ in GNOME... I didn't login as root at startup
[05:47] <en1gma> do you see how there is a duplicate
[05:47] <hacked_kernel> #struts
[05:47] <headcheese> danbh_intrepid:  yes, I have tried taking ownership and everything, I dont think I can change the permissions to that file.
[05:47] <dr_willis> en1gma,  yes. so cut/paste/edit the whole line.. and correct it.. then re-export it
[05:47] <danbh_intrepid> headcheese: what are the permissions?
[05:47] <enaner> headcheese,  how do i edit my /etc/modules file?
[05:47] <danielson> What's the copy command in terminal?
[05:47] <en1gma> god im stupid
[05:47] <bobertdos> danielson: cp
[05:48] <jim_p> Distort1: you must make a script that does that procedure one by one on every file
[05:48] <en1gma> thanks
[05:48] <dr_willis> en1gma,  export PATH='/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/cuda/bin'
[05:48] <enaner> dr_willis, ,  how do i edit my /etc/modules file?
[05:48] <dr_willis> en1gma,  :) and even having the dupes.. isent going to hurt anything
[05:48] <dr_willis> enaner,  i would use 'sudo vi /etc/modules' :) use whatever editor you perfer.
[05:48] <jim_p> Distort1: i am no script expert, but i can give you some guidance. its all about "for this - do that" concept
[05:49] <en1gma> i thinking
[05:49] <Distort1> jim_p: The most I've scripted is a "Hello world!" app, which I can't even remember how to do. ><
[05:50] <FreshUbuntuNoob> danbh_intrepid, headcheese, Please read this, it might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=791693
[05:50] <enaner> dr_willis, now how do i add lines to that
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> i need help getting my notebook wireless working again....
[05:50] <dr_willis> enaner,  using whatever editor you kniow how to use.. just append the new lines..
[05:50] <jim_p> Distort1: see, you have done a script in your life. i have done none. anyway can i tell my idea?
[05:50] <danielson> Lame, I cant even copy properly
[05:51] <enaner> dr_willis, can you name me another editor besides vi
[05:51] <enaner> a one thats simpler
[05:51] <dr_willis> enaner,  the trick to rember is you MUST edit the file as root, thus the need for 'sudo' or 'gksu gedit /etc/modules'
[05:51] <dr_willis> enaner,  try nano
[05:51] <danielson> Trying to copy a folder from \home\brad\dev to \usr\src using cp in a root terminal
[05:51] <danielson> But, doing something wrong...
[05:51] <danbh_intrepid> FreshUbuntuNoob: nice!!  thanks for the link
[05:51] <FreshUbuntuNoob> danbh_intrepid, No problem
[05:51] <danielson> Say the file name is 'a', how can I copy 'a' from \home\brad\dev to \usr\src, saying that \home\brad\dev is my current terminal directory
[05:51] <FreshUbuntuNoob> danielson, You have your slashes the wrong way
[05:52] <danielson> cp: omitting directory `linux-<IP_ADDRESS>'
[05:52] <danielson> wtf does that mean
[05:52] <jim_p> danielson: sudo cp a.txt /usr/src
[05:52] <danielson> That's exactly what I want to copy
[05:52] <davemlinux76> windowse way \\\\:-D
[05:52] <danielson> Yeah, sry... habit
[05:52] <dr_willis> copyin dirctories often needs the -r for recursive option.
[05:53] <dr_willis> or cheat like i do  and install 'mc' and use 'sudo mc' for a simple gui/root file manager. :)
[05:53] <en1gma> dr_willis, im really messing this up
[05:53] <pengo> i reinstalled alsa and now i have no sound visible at all. and i am sad.
[05:53] <sifunk> pengo: i've never been able to see sound
[05:53] <danielson> There we go, thanks
[05:54] <en1gma> dr_willis, http://pastebin.ca/1219569
[05:54] <chuiloveying> =.=?
[05:54] <pengo> sifunk: thanks for the help. maybe you can try sticking your eyes in a blender.
[05:54] <en1gma> dr_willis, i have 3 of the same ones now
[05:55] <CorbinFo1> pengo: i bet he could hear it then, instead of see it
[05:55] <dr_willis> en1gma,   You may want to clarify excatly what it is you are trying to do...
[05:55] <sifunk> pengo: tried checking your config for alsa?
[05:55] <pengo> sifunk: not really. no.
[05:55] <danielson> I've got a linux source tree in \usr\src, anyon know how to build it in debug and release?
[05:56] <windwhinny> ./config ./make ./makeinstall
[05:56] <dr_willis> en1gma,  its doing what you are telling it to do.. if you ran  PATH=$PATH:usr/local/cuda/bin    100 times you would have 100 duplicates at the end..
[05:56] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, i have mailing server which runs with Postfix and Dovecot, i accidently deleted MBOX file in my home directory
[05:56] <jim_p> danielson: go to that folder you want and /configure ...
[05:56] <dr_willis> en1gma,  its like... x=x+1 :)
[05:56] <SaEeDIRHA> and now when i am trying to connect to my mail server with Thunderbird , it gives me an error: Mailbox isnt valid MBOX
[05:56] <en1gma> ok you see that pastebin http://pastebin.ca/1219569? i want it to look like this pastebin http://pastebin.ca/1219570
[05:56] <SaEeDIRHA> what can i do now ?
[05:56] <SaEeDIRHA> :(
[05:57] <Gigacore> hi guys
[05:57] <danielson> jim_, by /configure, you really mean ./configure right?
[05:57] <Gigacore> How to enable global keyboard hotkeys in Audacious ?
[05:57] <jim_p> danielson: yea
[05:57] <dr_willis> en1gma,  so use 'export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/cuda/bin'
[05:57] <shocker> I'm trying to do some basic command line file browsing but I keep getting told that I can't open etc/apt/sources.list
[05:57] <danielson> jim_, there is no configure
[05:57] <en1gma> ok 1 sec
[05:58] <danielson> This is a kernel source tree, btw
[05:58] <danielson> There's kbuild
[05:58] <dr_willis> en1gma,  or if you  have a PATH without the extra bin at the end.. use what you did earlier.. ONCE.. and only once..
[05:58] <SaEeDIRHA> ?
[05:58] <jim_p> SaEeDIRHA: can you delete that email account and remake it?
[05:59] <en1gma> oh i see how export works now....if you use 'export PATH' it adds and if you use 'export PATH=' it changes it
[05:59] <dr_willis> en1gma,  Err.. NO......  you are failing to understand whats going on. :)
[05:59] <en1gma> yea i think so
[06:00] <SaEeDIRHA> jim_p: i cannot even check my Emails now!
[06:00] <dr_willis> en1gma,   Nothing adds, unless you export it with addational stuff on the end.
[06:00] <dr_willis> en1gma,  export PATH=$PATH:THIS/GETS/ADDED
[06:00] <dr_willis> en1gma,  note the use of $PATH
[06:00] <jim_p> SaEeDIRHA: :( you can use some undlete program then. how did you delete that folder?
[06:00] <en1gma> ohh
[06:01] <en1gma> well then wait
[06:01] <dr_willis> en1gma,  $PATH just gets expanded to the current PATH
[06:01] <shocker> I'm trying to do some basic command line file browsing but I keep getting told that I can't open etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <SaEeDIRHA> jim_p: it is not a folder
[06:01] <SaEeDIRHA> it is just a MBOX file
[06:01] <dr_willis>  'export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/cuda/bin'
[06:01] <dr_willis> en1gma,  if PATH= 'export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games'
[06:01] <SaEeDIRHA> which keeps incoming emails, and when u check them it passes them to ~/mailbox/ folder
[06:01] <dr_willis> then export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/cuda/bin
[06:02] <jim_p> SaEeDIRHA: ok then, how did you delete it?
[06:02] <en1gma> dr_willis, http://pastebin.ca/1219572 look at that
[06:02] <SaEeDIRHA> accidently as i mentioned before
[06:02] <dr_willis> en1gma,  is the same as     as what we did earlier..
[06:02] <sputnick> hi there
[06:02] <shocker> I'm trying to do some basic command line file browsing but I keep getting told that I can't open etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <jerry_> have you tried sudo
[06:02] <jerry_> ?
[06:02] <FreshUbuntuNoob> SaEeDIRHA, Is MBOX client side or server side?
[06:03] <shocker> yes and then I get an error about my theme in Firefox
[06:03] <sputnick> I don't figure out, why atd takes 90% of CPU on my laptop, 2 cores 1600mhz, 1GO RAM
[06:03] <jim_p> shocker:  /etc/apt/sources.list      note the 1st slash
[06:03] <sputnick> ubuntu hardy
[06:03] <dr_willis> en1gma,  so? :)    its saying the same as ive been saying...   You dont have to 'export PATH' on the same line as you set PATH..
[06:03] <SaEeDIRHA> FreshUbuntuNood: what do u mean? it is my mail server
[06:03] <jerry_> try using sudo nautilus
[06:03] <SaEeDIRHA> and i use Thunderbird to access my mailes
[06:03] <dr_willis> en1gma,  PATH=$PATH:NEW/PATH/GETS/Added/To/The/End
[06:03] <shocker> /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: Invalid symbolic color 'tooltip_bg_color'
[06:04] <dr_willis> en1gma,  export PATH
[06:04] <shocker> /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: error: invalid identifier `tooltip_bg_color', expected valid identifier
[06:04] <FreshUbuntuNoob> SaEeDIRHA, Is the mbox file stored on server, or on client?
[06:04] <dr_willis> is the same as export PATH=$PATH:NEW/PATH/GETS/Added/To/The/End
[06:04] <SaEeDIRHA> on a server
[06:04] <shocker> is what I get when I type sudo cd..
[06:04] <en1gma> yea i get it i think
[06:04] <dr_willis> en1gma,  pay close attention to the use of the $ :) and when its not used.
[06:04] <SaEeDIRHA> FreshUbuntuNood: i didnt even know that it is possible to save it in client side
[06:04] <en1gma> yep yep
[06:04] <shocker> is what I get when I type just could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:04] <shocker> bash: cd..: command not found
[06:05] <dr_willis> shocker,  use spaces where needed. his isent dos.
[06:05] <dr_willis> cd ..
[06:05] <dr_willis> Or --->   alias cd..='cd ..'
[06:05] <dr_willis> but thats a bad habbit. :)
[06:06] <dr_willis> or just use '..' :)
[06:06] <FreshUbuntuNoob> SaEeDIRHA, http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#export
[06:06] <shocker> oh shoot! thanks guys
[06:06] <jim_p> shocker: actually cd is used for changing FOLDERS, it wony open you sources.list
[06:07] <shocker> I know, but I keep a sources.list error for some reason
[06:07]  * dr_willis uses cd to change 'directories' :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> othereise it would be 'cf'  wouldent it heh...
[06:07] <en1gma> dr_willis, thanks for the help
[06:07] <en1gma> i just tried it a couple time and that $ is the key...you are right
[06:07] <dr_willis> en1gma,  time to track down some bash tutorials/basics books. :)
[06:08] <dr_willis> en1gma,  yep.
[06:08] <dr_willis> Bash Basics.. well.. sort of.
[06:08] <en1gma> its really gonna be bad cause i have to track down some C++ and some CUDA too
[06:08] <vasilisa> who was helping me, lol
[06:08] <Dusty_> me
[06:08] <en1gma> i think i need to upload google to my brain
[06:08] <dr_willis> en1gma,  i have no idea whta cuda even is
[06:08] <en1gma> cuda is for running C++ on a GPU instead of CPU
[06:09] <en1gma> parallel computing
[06:09] <dr_willis> en1gma,  sounds like somthing i will never need. :)
[06:09] <en1gma> me either probably
[06:09] <shocker> now I'm unable to get into my apt dir
[06:09] <FreshUbuntuNoob> dr_willis, never say never. It comes back to haunt you :p
[06:09] <Myke5161> Hey Everyone
[06:10] <en1gma> i have 2 vcards that are 8800gts g92s and i just want to see them do some real work besides gaming
[06:10] <dr_willis> FreshUbuntuNoob,  i am 40 yrs old. and i can honestly say.. im never going to get into 'programing' as anything other then a light hobby. :)
[06:10] <dr_willis> FreshUbuntuNoob,  Its more fun to do tech support in irc!
[06:11] <shocker> when I try sudo cd apt I get "sudo: cd: command not found
[06:11] <shocker> :
[06:11] <FreshUbuntuNoob> dr_willis, Until you start tearing off your hair, b/c people don't know the Gnome doesn't have a Start Menu :p
[06:11] <DBurke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938298
[06:11] <dr_willis> shocker,  i cant think of any need to do 'sudo cd'
[06:11] <FreshUbuntuNoob> shocker, you don't need to do a sudo cd
[06:11] <dr_willis> FreshUbuntuNoob,  im allready 'training' people at work on linux.
[06:12] <shocker> if I do just sudo apt I get "bash: cd: apt: Permission denied
[06:12] <shocker> "
[06:12] <dr_willis> FreshUbuntuNoob,  im hard-core to them :)
[06:12] <Geoffrey2> ok, one last time....today my wireless stopped connecting, and I can't get the connection back...can anyone help?
[06:12] <shocker> sorry cd apt
[06:12] <bobertdos> shocker: apt-get
[06:12] <wolfe> yikes, lots of people here
[06:12] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Geoffrey2, Could be a little more specific?
[06:12] <dr_willis> shocker,  why are you typing commands that dont exist? and stuff? what are yoyu trying to do exactly?
[06:12] <wolfe> I asked this a lnog time ago and did get a commit submittsed in proposed and release
[06:12] <wolfe> *released
[06:12] <shocker> I'm trying to access the dir where my sources.list file resides
[06:13] <dr_willis> shocker,  then you go to /etc/apt/
[06:13] <wolfe> how does one get a patch whichis released from proposed to a main branch?
[06:13] <dr_willis> shocker,  cd /etc/apt/
[06:13] <dr_willis> shocker,  then you use 'sudo  WHATEVER'  to alter the files IN that directory.
[06:13] <shocker> I get "bash: cd: /etc/apt/: Permission denied
[06:14] <shocker> " when I type that
[06:14] <dr_willis> shocker,  you got some odd permissions set up then
[06:14] <jim_p> wolfe: you dl the .patch file and patch the source code with it
[06:14] <shocker> any ideas dr willis?
[06:14] <dr_willis> shocker,  if you want to edit the sources.list youc an do it without being in that directory... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <Geoffrey2> FreshUbuntuNoob, I changed to a different login theme to try and fix a bug, restarted and found that was worse...somehow I got logged in and switched back, when I restarted and logged in I could no longer get my laptop to establish a connection or get an ip address from the router
[06:15] <wolfe> jim_p: well, this has to do with the fucked up Xen package with Hardy
[06:15] <wolfe> #218126
[06:15] <wolfe> err... no url bot in here I guess
[06:15] <wolfe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218126
[06:15] <DrPepper> hello
[06:16] <wolfe> hiranotaka's packaged worked, ubuntu needs to release it mainstream, not just let it sit in -proposed
[06:16] <DBurke> When I type in 'displayconfig-gtk' and try to test my resolution settings I get a screen that is full of a dot pattern with a window asking if I want to keep the resolution.  The window looks okay, but I want to make sure that if I accept the resolution it isn't going to screw anything up.  It displaying the dot pattern rather than my desktop is a little scary...
[06:16] <shocker> I've already edited it using gedit, now I'm just trying to get to the dir to delete the backup that I created and no longer need
[06:16] <wolfe> the default xen package does in fact cause the specific issue listed in the bug report, even when all pacakges are updated
[06:16] <wolfe> it needs to be fixed
[06:16] <Shak-> I'm having some issues with my touchpad, this just started today - after 30mins or so of using my laptop the touchpad becomes erratic and I need to reboot.. is this a xorg conf issue?
[06:16] <jim_p> wolfe: cant you upgrade from proposed??
[06:16] <wolfe> err, I mean released to main
[06:17] <wolfe> jim_p: I don't like to use packages in proposed
[06:17] <wolfe> I like to install stuff on a system and have it automatically work.
[06:17] <bobertdos> shocker: Try typing ls -l /etc/apt
[06:17] <wolfe> if the package works, then it needs to get pushed
[06:17] <jim_p> wolfe: upgrade just that one and disable the repo after
[06:17] <wolfe> jim_p: I downloaded it manually with wget ;)
[06:17] <wolfe> though its kind of a burden, I thought I was causing xen to mess up
[06:18] <shocker> I get "ls: cannot open directory /etc/apt: Permission denied
[06:18] <shocker> " when I type ls -l /etc/apt/
[06:18] <Dusty_> use sudo
[06:18] <Dusty_> xD
[06:18] <dr_willis> shocker,  sudo rm /etc/apt/whateverthefilenameis   - but theres no need to worry about an extra archive copy laying about
[06:19] <jim_p> wolfe: doesnt it install with depk -i?
[06:19] <jim_p> wolfe: *dpkg -i
[06:19] <dr_willis> shocker,  you could drop into a rooot shell with 'sudo -s' but that CAN BE DANGEROUS.. :) use with care.. and 'exit' out of it asap.
[06:19] <jerry_> i need help with the proxy configuration with the x-chat i cant acces to settings, im new to this
[06:20] <vdv> hi all
[06:20]  * Geoffrey2 sighs
[06:20] <zoddan> good morning :)
[06:20] <_haywire_> what's good about it?
[06:20] <vdv> can anybody look at http://pastebin.com/m6c10bdfb
[06:21] <danielson> I'm currently 'make'ing a 2.6.24 kernel
[06:21] <shocker> perfect! thanks dr willis
[06:21] <danielson> I dont think I need to make install, I just need kernel libraries to link against for custom driver development
[06:21] <vdv> on line 444 dpi is calculated correctly based on provided DisplaySize
[06:21] <danielson> Sound good, what will 'make install' do?
[06:21] <vdv> but then on line 633 seems that screen size is setted to value different from provided DisplaySize
[06:21] <EvanCarroll> is there a supported downgrade method for ubuntu? as in keep just data files in /home that are non-specific to Apps
[06:21] <vdv> why? how can i tell xorg not to do that?
[06:21] <shocker> I did it using the rm command wo dropping into sudo -s, just FYI
[06:21] <dr_willis> shocker,  i do have to wonder what changed the permission of your /etc/apt directory      its normally        drwxr-xr-x  4 root root    4.0K 2008-09-28 00:31 apt/
[06:21] <vdv> as a result i got dpi 96x96 after X is started and ugly narrow and tall fonts
[06:22] <shocker> here's the ls -l of the files: total 40
[06:22] <shocker> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-11 22:15 apt.conf.d
[06:22] <shocker> -rw------- 1 root root    0 2008-10-04 22:37 secring.gpg
[06:22] <shocker> -rwx------ 1 root root 3055 2008-10-05 00:53 sources.list
[06:22] <shocker> -rw------- 1 root root 3329 2008-10-05 00:52 sources.list~
[06:22] <shocker> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-11 22:15 sources.list.d
[06:22] <FloodBot2> shocker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <zoddan> im trying to get my picture system to work but i seems that imagemagick wont work :/
[06:23] <Geoffrey2> no ideas on how to get wireless up and running again?
[06:23] <bobertdos> shocker: Try that again, but with pastebin, please.
[06:23] <shocker> how do I use pastebin?
[06:24] <bobertdos> !paste
[06:24] <shocker> paste total 40
[06:24] <shocker> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-11 22:15 apt.conf.d
[06:24] <shocker> -rw------- 1 root root    0 2008-10-04 22:37 secring.gpg
[06:24] <shocker> -rwx------ 1 root root 3055 2008-10-05 00:53 sources.list
[06:24] <shocker> -rw------- 1 root root 3329 2008-10-05 00:52 sources.list~
[06:24] <shocker> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-11 22:15 sources.list.d
[06:24] <FloodBot2> shocker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <Shak-> after 30mins or so of using my laptop the touchpad becomes erratic and I need to reboot.. is this a xorg conf issue? this just started happening today
[06:24] <bobertdos> shocker: No!
[06:24] <Dusty_> welcome back
[06:25] <vdv> hi prekrasnaya
[06:25] <bobertdos> shocker: Go to http://paste.ubuntu.com, paste all of that output in there, and give us the url, please.
[06:25] <wolfe> someone needs to teach shocker how to use ctrl-c :P
[06:26] <shocker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54128/plain/
[06:26] <kevinmark> I'm completely stumped on trying to get any version of suspend or hibernate to work. No matter what I do, when the system starts up it boots as if it was shut down normally. I don't even know how to start debugging this.
[06:26] <shocker> is that better?
[06:26] <bobertdos> shocker: much, thank you
[06:27] <shocker> sorry
[06:27] <Hilikus> does anyone know of an app that sends a MSN message from the command line? i want to do something like app "hello" or something and the app would login with a configured user, send the msg and log out
[06:27] <wolfe> Hilikus: you mean you want to make a spam bot? ^_^
[06:27] <DrPepper> lol
[06:27] <Hilikus> wolfe no, of course it can only send msgs to people in its contact list
[06:27] <bobertdos> shocker: Actually, could you ls -l /etc, please?
[06:28] <wolfe> . /exec -o ls -l /etc ;)
[06:28] <wolfe> j/k
[06:29] <DrPepper> how would i format an external hard drive with a fat32 and an ntfs partition?
[06:29] <shocker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54129/plain/
[06:29] <shocker> there she be
[06:29] <dr_willis> DrPepper,  use a fdisk tool, like fdisk, or gparted to make the partitions, 2 in this case.. one thats fat32, then one thats ntfs. and use the mkfs.XXX tools to format them. or let gparted format them
[06:30] <dr_willis> DrPepper,  linux can read/write ntfs very well these days.. theres proberly not a lot of need for fat32
[06:30] <DrPepper> alright, i'll give gparted a chance next chance i get, thanks
[06:30] <DrPepper> well
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> ok....i guess the answer is give up for the night
[06:30] <DrPepper> i have windows xp and mac os x on my computer
[06:30] <dr_willis> Some extra packages may be needed to do the ntfs formating.
[06:30] <paul68> Hi I have a little question about bash scripting, what is the correct syntax to print "done" at the end off the script?
[06:30] <swuboo> Are there any working arounds for flash intermittently refusing to play video in 64-bit hardy?
[06:31] <kevinmark> I thought NTFS write was still very limited.
[06:31] <DrPepper> and i have some addon that allows ntfs read/write for mac os x, but the write speeds are horrendous
[06:31] <DrPepper> but then i also need to store files larger than 4GB, so yeah...
[06:31] <kevinmark> E.g., I seem to recall creating directories was not supported.
[06:31] <dr_willis> DrPepper,  i thought osx can read/write ext2/3
[06:32] <dr_willis> kevinmark,  i make dirs all the time...
[06:32] <DrPepper> not natively unfortunately  :/
[06:32] <bobertdos> shocker: Type the following: chmod -R 755 apt
[06:32] <DrPepper> i had to get an addon for that too
[06:32] <dr_willis> DrPepper,  such a friendly OS eh. :)
[06:32] <DrPepper> haha, i know
[06:33] <DrPepper> in another year i'm gonna give this damn laptop to my sister for college
[06:33] <DrPepper> mac os x is way more trouble than it's worth for me
[06:33] <shocker> I get chmod: cannot access `apt': No such file or directory
[06:33] <regeya> holy moly I like downthemall but what a massive memory leak it has...
[06:34] <bobertdos> shocker: Are you in /etc?
[06:34] <paul68> DrPepper itl's a nice OS however can cause you from time to time a serious headache
[06:34] <paul68> Hi I have a little question about bash scripting, what is the correct syntax to print "done" at the end off the script?
[06:35] <shocker> Im in shocker@shocker-desktop:/$
[06:35] <orly_owl> How can I get PAL TV output from an intel graphics card using a VGA to Composite adapter?
[06:35] <bobertdos> shocker: cd /etc
[06:36] <orly_owl> paul68: 'echo "done"'
[06:36] <orly_owl> without '
[06:36] <paul68> ok thanks
[06:36] <shocker> shocker@shocker-desktop:/etc$ chmod -R 755 apt
[06:36] <shocker> chmod: changing permissions of `apt': Operation not permitted
[06:36] <shocker> chmod: cannot read directory `apt': Permission denied
[06:36] <shocker> sudo?
[06:36] <FloodBot2> shocker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <bobertdos> shocker: yes
[06:37] <shocker> k, it did it. Now what?
[06:37] <dr_willis> shocker,  rember.. 'potentially system destroying commands need sudo' :)
[06:37] <shocker> oh, I'm aware of that much lol
[06:37] <bobertdos> shocker: did the command work (not give you any errors)?
[06:38] <DrPepper> dr_willis or as i like to put it it "all the fun stuff needs sudo"
[06:38] <shocker> k, I can get into it now. Was it just a matter of permissions?
[06:38] <Geoffrey2> and if ubuntu asks "Are you really sure you want to do this?", the answer is most likely NO....
[06:38] <bobertdos> shocker: yes, somehow group and user had no permissions for that directory whatsoever.
[06:39] <shocker> so, that's not normal, I assume?
[06:39] <Eruaran> Does anyone know if Intrepid will feature 'dust' as the default look/theme ?
[06:39] <bobertdos> shocker: nope, not normal
[06:39] <DrPepper> Geoffrey2 aw, but it's no fun when they say "NO"   :D
[06:39] <Eruaran> Cause I've just been looking at screenies of dust and I must say, its the first time I've looked at an Ubuntu desktop and thought, "now THAT looks good !"
[06:40] <shocker> hmm, I've been having a lot of 'that's not normal" stuff go on for some reason. am I in for a re-install?
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> DrPepper, unless you're the fool (like me), who said "Sure, do it anyway"....
[06:41] <DrPepper> hahahaha
[06:41] <bobertdos> shocker: Well, with Intrepid not even a month away, I'd just wait at this point if you can tolerate the way things are now.
[06:42] <arbeck77> I'm having trouble mounting a USB flash drive... it shows up in my list of drives under my computer, there are no obvious errors in dmesg, but I can't browse to it
[06:42] <shocker> speaking of which, am I gonna have to re-do all my pkgs and settings with the Intrepid?
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> DrPepper, that's when you're glad you have the iso burned to a cd
[06:43] <lakitu> is there any risk of doing testdisk? have a "unrecoverable" harddrive, & am trying to get it working again
[06:43] <lakitu> "unrecoverable" according to chkdsk
[06:44] <bobertdos> shocker: Well, if you want, you can save your personal data from your home directory. I suppose you could use aptoncd if you really wanted to preserve your packages, but I think Intrepid may have some new versions. It's up to you. If you're interested ->
[06:44] <bobertdos> !aptoncd | shocker
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> I would, however, like my wireless back before intrepid ships....
[06:45] <bobertdos> shocker: You could also do a direct upgrade if you wanted, but with your current install in such a weird state, that's probably a bad idea.
[06:45] <shocker> well I want the updated versions, but will I have to go hunt them all down again?
[06:45] <_haywire_> cya shocker
[06:46] <shocker> later haywire
[06:46] <bobertdos> shocker: Yeah, pretty much, but really not EVERYTHING is going to be new.
[06:47] <shocker> ah, screw it. who am I kidding? I need the practice
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> ok, i'm off...i'll stop in tomorrow and try to find someone who knows wireless....
[06:47] <shocker> if I wanted to change my partitions, would it be wise to do it when Intrepid comes out or is that way more in-depth?
[06:48] <slipp3d> anyone have some help for this?
[06:48] <slipp3d> http://pastebin.com/m55fa0ee6
[06:48] <haydnc> is there a particular brand / model of webcam that anyone would recommend as extremely likely to work 'plug and play' with 8.04.1?
[06:48] <peterhunt> hi, i set up nginx via apt-get, and it installed fine except it hung at the end of the install so i had to kill the process. now i am trying to install proftpd, and it is insisting on trying to complete the installation of nginx and hanging. what do i do?
[06:48] <bobertdos> shocker: Nah, that'd be as good a time as any. Just back stuff up so you don't risk losing what's important to you.
[06:49] <danbh_intrepid> haydnc: check the fsf.org website
[06:49] <hackintosh411> Hey guys I just got ubuntu 8.10 and im glad to say it supports broadcom!
[06:49] <shocker> that's what I was thinking. how would I go about doing that without having an OS on the tower?
[06:50] <bobertdos> shocker: You should make yourself a Live CD or order one :p
[06:50] <rebel_kid> whats the terminal cmd for cpu information
[06:50] <haydnc> thanks danbh_intrepid, I'll take a look
[06:50] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Where are you getting that error?
[06:51] <hackintosh411> So if you have broadcom wireless problems switch to 8.1o
[06:51] <shocker> how much diff will there be between my livecd and one I order? any?
[06:51] <vasilisa> Dusty left :<
[06:51] <hackintosh411> shocker: I found the cd i ordered ran much smoother...
[06:51] <bobertdos> shocker: None, but the mailed ones tend to take quite a while to come.
[06:52] <hackintosh411> actually the ones i ordered ran much more smoother than the ones i made.
[06:52] <shocker> hmm, thanks guys. any idea how long?
[06:52] <hackintosh411> It may because of cd quality
[06:52] <al2xi> yeah probably
[06:52] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: true, there can be a lot of variables there
[06:53] <hackintosh411> bobertdos:
[06:53] <rebel_kid> anyone know the terminal command to get cpu specs?
[06:53] <hackintosh411> bobertdos: yes the more expensive the higher quality
[06:54] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: So answer me this, do the ordered ones come on metal CD's as opposed to dye?
[06:55] <hackintosh411> bobertdos: excuse me? I don't know what you are saying
[06:55] <shocker> well, thank you for all ur help bobertdos and dr willis. I plan on coming back w all sorts of questions. U were all a great help
[06:55] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: I mean do they come on "official" CD's as opposed to recordables?
[06:56] <slipp3d> bobertdos, I get this error when I log in...
[06:56] <hackintosh411> borbertdos: I think. I'm not quite sure. It may be official they do put a sticker label on the frotn.
[06:57] <salamandyr> ok, i bought a usb wireless, but haven't been able to get it working more than intermittently.  it supposedly works out of the box with ubuntu.  not so, i guess.  can anyone tell me for sure one that will?
[06:57] <vasilisa> All you ubuntuers, please be aware.... for ATI cards, not using Envy to set up your system is madness!
[06:57] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: Okay, in layman's terms, do they come on silver CD's?
[06:58] <d0htem> anyone good with virtual machines and ubuntu?
[06:58] <hackintosh411> bobertdos: They come in silver cd's with a label on the front that says UBUNTU 7.04 or what ever you ordered.
[06:58] <slipp3d> d0htem, what are you doing?
[06:59] <bobertdos> slipp3d: I see, well we should probably do what the error suggests. In a terminal, type stat -c %a .dmrc
[06:59] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: Oh, so they are metal, I'll be darned..........:)
[06:59] <gustavo> Hello. I have a Panasonic KX-P1150 printer which I can't get to work under Hardy. It's not detected automatically and I can't install it manually via System -> Administration -> Printers; it's not shown in the list (although the printer makes a sounds when the list is being generated).
[06:59] <slipp3d> bobertdos, it says 777
[07:00] <d0htem> just experimenting, i tried qtemu and it was decent, i dont have support for kvm , and i havent tried virtualbox yet
[07:00] <slipp3d> d0htem, I know that I use virtualbox ... both at home and at work
[07:00] <d0htem> ill take a go at it
[07:00] <gustavo> Accroding to this http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Panasonic-KX-P1150 , the  eps9high driver should work, which seems to be provided by foomatic. But I can't get foomatic to work either: http://pastebin.com/m53d08960
[07:01] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Alright, type chmod 644 .dmrc
[07:01] <hackintosh411> So far in the short time of using ubuntu 8.10 I have found 0 glitches
[07:01] <slipp3d> ok
[07:02] <hackintosh411> How do I install flash player using the terminal?
[07:02] <Edder_> how it
[07:02] <Edder_> how it's the performance?
[07:02] <hackintosh411> What is the Code for it.
[07:03] <rebel_kid> i am trying to run sudo /proc/cpuinfo and i get command not found
[07:03] <node357> sorry gustavo, guess no one is around who knows printer stuff
[07:03] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Then, just to be thorough, type chown $USERNAME:$USERNAME .dmrc
[07:03] <node357> rebel_kid, sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:03] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Then see if you get that error again.
[07:03] <slipp3d> k
[07:04] <slipp3d> brb
[07:04] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:04] <hackintosh411> bobertdos: Thank You
[07:05] <bobertdos> hackintosh411: Technically speaking, we shouldn't help you with Intrepid, but since you're not really having problems yet and know what you're doing, well........;)
[07:07] <hackintosh411> bobertdos: lol, I was really bad with gusty and got a little bit better with hardy. I am using intrepid to see if every one of my drivers would work and yes it did. Now im free from windows vista!
[07:07] <slipp3d> bobertdos, nope same error
[07:08] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Did chown give you any errors when you tried it?
[07:08] <slipp3d> nope no errors
[07:08] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Okay, now a little more info: type ls -l | grep .dmrc
[07:09] <hackintosh411> I gotta head out its 2 am and i need some sleep.
[07:09] <slipp3d> nothing bobertdos
[07:09] <hackintosh411> See you guys later.
[07:10] <bobertdos> slipp3d: okay, then just pastebin ls -l, pretty please :)
[07:10] <scientus_> how can i view voltages and power stuf from comnd line
[07:10] <scientus_> and other diagnostics?
[07:11] <slipp3d> what folder do you want the ls done on?
[07:11] <bobertdos> slipp3d: home
[07:11] <elliottte> Hello, I picked up an LG Chocolate which is registered by lsusb as "ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone". It is not showing up in the fdisk list though. I'm not sure if it is even compatible with Linux; I'm simply trying to access its memory as a disk but I don't know how to mount it.
[07:12] <elliottte> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
[07:12] <scientus_> ???
[07:12] <benthebug> what>
[07:12] <benthebug> ?
[07:12] <slipp3d> drwxrwxrwx for that folder
[07:12] <scientus_> how to view voltages and such?
[07:12] <bobertdos> scientus_: Well, the /proc directory contains a lot of files containing system info. lm-sensors would be a good package to use for that kind of stuff too.
[07:12] <scientus_> ok i havnt tested ethernet but unike windows its likely to work
[07:12] <scientus_> brb
[07:13] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Your home directory is 777?? Are you the owner?
[07:13] <Sonja> i can't figure out what my /dev/sdd1 is! how do i figure out which device is this 1 gig of storage?
[07:13] <Sonja> !device
[07:13] <slipp3d> yes
[07:14] <Sonja> maybe my mouse has 1 gig of storage or something bizarre like that
[07:14] <TeslaTony> Sonja: Try unplugging the mouse and see what happens
[07:14] <scientus_> is 450 W enough for Dual vid, quad phenom 4 HDs and a CD drive?
[07:14] <dr_willis> Sonja,  'sudo fdisk -l' might give a clue
[07:14] <dr_willis> a Mouse/usb thumbdrive.. that would be neat. :)
[07:15] <bobertdos> slipp3d: Is your username folder 777??
[07:15] <dr_willis> a Mouse with a little usb hub built in under the hood.. for a thumbdrive.. thatd be cool
[07:15] <slipp3d> drwxrwxrwx 62 slipp3d slipp3d 4096 2008-10-05 00:06 slipp3d
[07:15] <TeslaTony> dr_willis: They exist. Check out Razer and one of the MS notebook mice
[07:15] <Cool-Nick> how can i search inside the contents of the files??
[07:16] <dr_willis> TeslaTony,  i recall a mouse ages ago that had a 'numpad' under its shell. :)
[07:16] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: grep
[07:16] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: what grep?
[07:16] <dr_willis> TeslaTony,  i had a 'force feedback' mouse that could wiggle/vibrate also :P
[07:16] <Cool-Nick> !grep
[07:16] <Sonja> dr_willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/54138/
[07:16] <dr_willis> Sonja,  and that is?
[07:16] <Sonja> dr_willis /dev/sdd1 doesn't seem listed
[07:16] <dr_willis> Sonja,  odd....
[07:16] <Sonja> it's the command you told me
[07:17] <Sonja> maybe if i reboot it wil disappear?
[07:18] <Sonja> i'll try rebooting brb <3
[07:18] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: can you give me an example of how i can search inside the contents of files in a folder using greb?
[07:18] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: *grep
[07:20] <Omeil> hi peeps, i am getting 10-13 FPS outside in wow and it sucks lol
[07:21] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Type man grep in the terminal. That will give you all the syntax you need to know. The simplest example would be something like: grep hello myfile
[07:21] <Omeil> If i stare at one direction i get higher FPS but when i turn camera fps just instantly drops
[07:22] <Omeil> !WoW
[07:22] <SteckelBud> silly question--is there an easy way to run/cron security updates/patches on server...there must be, but unsure of the process with ubuntu/debian
[07:23] <bobertdos> SteckelBud: You mean just installing updates?
[07:23] <Cool-Nick> The sound doesn't work with some applications
[07:24] <jim_p> SteckelBud: like run update daily?
[07:24] <Cool-Nick> like Rythimbox, Pidgin
[07:24] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Are you running Hardy?
[07:24] <Cool-Nick> when i reboot the sound works, but after some times it stops in some applications. What to do?
[07:24] <tmapj> can anyone tell me where to find the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:24] <SteckelBud> jim_p: yeah- daily/weekly--just intalling only the security junk automatically
[07:25] <Shak-> I'm having some issues with my touchpad, this just started today - after 30mins or so of using my laptop the touchpad becomes erratic and I need to reboot.. is this a xorg conf issue?
[07:25] <bobertdos> tmapj: under the Filesystem, or just get there via the terminal.
[07:25] <tmapj> thanks
[07:25] <bobertdos> !touchpad | Shak-
[07:25] <SteckelBud> didn't know if I still had to execute following, restar daemons, etc...especially if it's a php/apache update or something of that sort.
[07:25] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: yeah
[07:25] <jim_p> SteckelBud: add a bash script that does the updateds in /etc/cron.daily
[07:26] <Shak-> thanks bobertdos
[07:27] <SteckelBud> jim_p:  would something like this do it: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or would it have to be more specific?
[07:27] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: so...?
[07:27] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: When that happens, you can type: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart to try and restart the sound. Otherwise, try switching System->Preferences->Sound and gstreamer-properties to ALSA.
[07:27] <scientus_> if it says ALARM after lines in 'sensors' is that bad?
[07:27] <bobertdos> scientus_: probably...
[07:27] <jim_p> SteckelBud: inside the script you need to put "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:28] <scientus_> cause it says that after like every line
[07:28] <SteckelBud> jim_p:  great--thanks, I will do that!
[07:28] <dr_willis> I thought i saw somewhere to  auto update/install updates... but i cant rember where now.
[07:28] <jim_p> SteckelBud: wrong. without sudos, it will ran with root privileges anyhow
[07:28] <SteckelBud> oohh gotcha!
[07:30] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: I have in Sound capture: ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, and in Device: HDA Intel (Alsa mixer). Please check if this is correct. And how can i switch gsteramer-porperties to ALSA?
[07:31] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: type gstreamer-properties into the terminal
[07:31] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: are my settings correct first?
[07:32] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: yes
[07:32] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i did write that in terminal and i got a window
[07:32] <New2ubuntu808> Hi Guys
[07:32] <New2ubuntu808> I m new to ubuntu
[07:32] <New2ubuntu808> Need help
[07:33] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Okay, is Playback set to ALSA?
[07:33] <Flannel> New2ubuntu808: best way to get help is to ask questions!
[07:33] <New2ubuntu808> need help
[07:33] <New2ubuntu808> guys
[07:33] <bobertdos> New2ubuntu808: Don't ask to ask, just start your questions.
[07:33] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: do you mean Default Output?
[07:33] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: er, yeah :)
[07:34] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: no, Autodetect
[07:34] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Okay, well set to Alsa then.
[07:34] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i did
[07:34] <New2ubuntu808> My  wireless connection is not working. I am unable to connect to my wireless router, I m useing HP laptop dv6755ee
[07:35] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Okay, see if that helps, and if you need to restart your sound now, use sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:35] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: what about the Device?
[07:35] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: can you show us the output of lspci?
[07:35] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: it's Default
[07:35] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: is it okey?
[07:35] <New2ubuntu808> how to show that
[07:35] <New2ubuntu808> ?
[07:35] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: What are the other options?
[07:35] <New2ubuntu808> what is LSPCI
[07:35] <Tatewaki> Can you see the connection New2ubuntu808 ?
[07:35] <New2ubuntu808> Jim_p I am windows user
[07:36] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: ALC662 Digital
[07:36] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: you are on windows now?
[07:36] <New2ubuntu808> no
[07:36] <jim_p> so?
[07:36] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Oh yea, just keep it default.
[07:36] <Tatewaki> Is the wireless working when you use windows?
[07:36] <New2ubuntu808> right now I am on  ubuntu , i was telling u i m windows  user and its hard for me to understand ubuntu
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> yeah my wireless is working when i use windows
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> bebertdos
[07:37] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: yeah, it works
[07:37] <bobertdos> New2ubuntu808: lspci is a terminal command listing internal hardware
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> but when i use  ubuntu   I can find any wireless network
[07:37] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: open a terminal and type lspci
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> Even I  enter the router  name also
[07:37] <dr_willis> New2ubuntu808,  yep - wireless is often a BIG stumbling point.  due to the varity of often nonstandard wireless cards/chipsets and lack of company support for linux.
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> ok jimp
[07:37] <New2ubuntu808> wait I am opening ispci
[07:38] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: good
[07:38] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i changes everything in Preferences > Sound into ALSA
[07:38] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: *changed
[07:38] <en1gma> there is no adobe reader for ubuntu 8.04?
[07:38] <bobertdos> !medibuntu | en1gma
[07:38] <New2ubuntu808> jim
[07:38] <en1gma> i tried to use alien to convert to deb but didnt work.
[07:38] <New2ubuntu808> have open ispci
[07:38] <dr_willis> en1gma,   there is...   its in the mediubuntu repos :) like the bot said.
[07:38] <dr_willis> !acrobat
[07:38] <en1gma> thanks
[07:39] <New2ubuntu808> JIM@  what information is usefull in Ispci?
[07:40] <New2ubuntu808> jim_p @ I have open the Ispci
[07:40] <outbackwifi> hello
[07:40] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: a) its Lpsci, capitalization matters b) it lists all the internal hardware on the pc (and the wireless adapter)
[07:40] <Cool-Nick> I can't open Kaffeine normally. i.e when i double click it to open, it doesn't open. I must run it from the terminal with sudo. Any ideas?
[07:40] <New2ubuntu808> yeah it listed my wireless adapter   JIM_P
[07:41] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: can i see the line thet says about the adapter :P
[07:41] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Well that's not good. Can you open all other programs normally?
[07:42] <New2ubuntu808> jim_P @ My  wireless adoptor name is there  "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Conne"
[07:42] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: let me think for its driver
[07:42] <Flannel> en1gma: Theres a few FOSS alternatives, many people prefer them.
[07:42] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: yeah
[07:42] <New2ubuntu808> okey Jim_P
[07:42] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: what does sudo iwconfig tell you?
[07:42] <en1gma> adobe reader dont want to install
[07:43] <New2ubuntu808> wait let me check outbackwifi
[07:43] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: just kaffeine makes problems, and sometimes it gets frozen!
[07:43] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Did you install it from the repos?
[07:43] <dr_willis> en1gma,  give more info other then 'it dont work'
[07:43] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: yeah
[07:43] <tmapj> bobertos what do i do once ive edited that file? do i restart ubuntu?
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @  outbackwifi says this  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808>           Tx-Power=27 dBm
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808>           Encryption key:off
[07:44] <New2ubuntu808>           Power Management:off
[07:44] <FloodBot2> New2ubuntu808: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <salamandyr> how does one exit X and drop to a console in HH?
[07:44] <dr_willis> salamandyr,  you could stop the gdm service.. is one way
[07:44] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: what is the adapter name? can you pastebin that?
[07:44] <Khisanth> you don't have to exit X for that
[07:44] <Flannel> salamandyr: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a TTY (F1-F6 is a tty, F7 is X again)
[07:44] <dr_willis> salamandyr,  or just alt-ctrl-f1 to get to the console, leaving X running
[07:44] <outbackwifi> salamandyr: ctl+alt+f1
[07:45] <salamandyr> awesome
[07:45] <bobertdos> tmapj: No, that file is meant to change the places from which packages are drawn. If you go into Synaptic and reload the mirrors, your changes will take effect.
[07:45] <salamandyr> thanks
[07:45] <salamandyr> i forgot about that!
[07:45] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:45] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: at the same terminal type this:    sudo modprobe iwl3945
[07:45] <jim_p> New2ubuntu808: and check for any leds that turn on
[07:45] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: not the hardware, the interface name like wlan0, eth1 or something similar
[07:46] <outbackwifi> jim_p: his module is up, iwconfig reports the interface
[07:46] <salamandyr> oh - i DO need to exit X - i'm trying to install an Nvidia driver
[07:46] <Flannel> salamandyr: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:46] <ziroday> How do I change the apps which xdg-open uses?
[07:46] <jim_p> outbackwifi: ok so i delayed a bit :P
[07:46] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: I'd reinstall it to see if it helps. It almost sounds like you don't have executable permissions for the program, which would be strange indeed.
[07:46] <n00bier> if i install a beta of 8.10.. how do i upgrade to the final version when its released?
[07:46] <salamandyr> Flannel: tanks!
[07:46] <ackbahr> Hi there! Linux doesn't offer me duplex and multi-sheet (or even booklet) functions for my HL4040cn. Is there a way to tweak it into the driver?
[07:47]  * bobertdos is finding the problems tonight very strange
[07:47] <Flannel> n00bier: Yes, through regular updates
[07:47] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwif@ it  show WAN1
[07:47] <n00bier> hmm
[07:47] <n00bier> Flannel, so theres no point in waiting till the 30th of october before installing ubuntu?
[07:47] <n00bier> i want it on my netbook
[07:48] <n00bier> currently running win xp
[07:48] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi@  opps its  show wlam0
[07:48] <Flannel> n00bier: If you don't mind beta software.  You can also install 8.04 now, and upgrade to Intrepid as well.
[07:48] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: just pastebin the entire output of iwconfig (pastebin means you paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <outbackwifi> n00bier: i wouldnt install 8.10
[07:48] <New2ubuntu808> okey outbackwifi
[07:48] <New2ubuntu808> i will do it wait
[07:48] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i did reinstall it! but same problems. I checked the executing permission and found that there is no permission. I put a tick for the permission but the it still doesn't start.
[07:48] <n00bier> outbackwifi, why not?
[07:48] <bobertdos> n00bier: You can actually keep Hardy installed for quite a while if you want, since it's the second LTS release.
[07:48] <outbackwifi> n00bier: cos its not stable yet? your netboot might go up in smoke?
[07:49] <outbackwifi> n00bier: netbook
[07:49] <TeslaTony> n00bier:  You may only install intrepid if you agree to have "I am a guinea pig" tattooed on some part of your body
[07:49] <n00bier> :p
[07:49] <odracir34> wher is the firre
[07:49] <n00bier> if i install 8.04 and then upgrade to 8.10.. will there be old files stored or will it be just like a fresh 8.10 installation?
[07:49] <Flannel> outbackwifi, n00bier: it won't go up in smoke.  But it is beta software.  *actual* beta software, not what google defines "beta" as.
[07:49] <Flannel> n00bier: No
[07:49] <Flannel> n00bier: It'll be just like a fresh install.
[07:49] <n00bier> i cant get my head to believe that
[07:49] <n00bier> hehe
[07:49] <outbackwifi> Flannel: i wouldnt run anything on beta
[07:50] <Flannel> n00bier: That's the wonder of package management.
[07:50] <n00bier> Flannel, probably the windows part of my brain
[07:50] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @ i paste it
[07:50] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: ok so whats the url?
[07:50] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi  @ link http://paste.ubuntu.com/54145/
[07:51] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: ok now type sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[07:51] <outbackwifi> and paste that too
[07:51] <n00bier> whats a good guide to installing ubuntu from usb stick?
[07:51] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Let's do it from the terminal. The executable for amarok is in..........um..../usr/bin?
[07:51] <Flannel> !install | n00bier
[07:51] <Flannel> n00bier: Theres instructions on that page
[07:51] <n00bier> ty
[07:51] <aliases123_> hi i think ibix is too brown + the background atm is not good.
[07:51]  * aliases123_ files bug.
[07:51] <dr_willis> n00bier,  i use that netbootin tool to make a bootable thumbdrive. and it works just like the live cd.
[07:51] <grendal_prime> this is just so damn frustrating, i cannot send a file to my laptop via bluetooth,  I can send one from my laptop to the phone, but not the other way around?
[07:52] <Flannel> aliases123_: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid discussion, thanks.
[07:52] <aliases123_> ok will do :)
[07:52] <n00bier> dr_willis, can i have other files on the usb stick at the same time as the image?
[07:52] <dr_willis> n00bier,  proberly can. Its a vfat filesystem I belive
[07:52] <outbackwifi> n00bier: yes
[07:52] <odracir34> ask dokter phill
[07:52] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: it's not amarok, it's kaffeine
[07:52] <n00bier> so i dont need to format it
[07:52] <grendal_prime> unless you want 2 gig files
[07:53] <outbackwifi> n00bier: when you create the usb stick it will WIPE your stick and then you can have any other files also along with liveCD
[07:53] <odracir34> onlu jump for joy n00bier
[07:53] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Yeah, amarokapp. In a terminal, type stat -c %a /usr/bin/amarokapp
[07:53] <n00bier> outbackwifi, i see.. then ill backup the files first, heh
[07:53] <grendal_prime> !bluetooth
[07:53] <n00bier> ty
[07:53] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: and yes the executable of kaffeine is in usr/bin
[07:53] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi@ here is the link  http://paste.ubuntu.com/54146/
[07:53] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: err, yeah, kaffeine should be in there too :p
[07:54] <n00bier> how big is a standard ubuntu install?
[07:54] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Okay, stat -c %a <that executable>
[07:54] <outbackwifi> n00bier: ive had it on a 4G ssd with 1.5G to spare
[07:55] <n00bier> so did I :p
[07:55] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @ this is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/54146/
[07:55] <n00bier> on my 701
[07:55] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos:<that executable> == kaffeine?
[07:55] <Finnish> I use hdparm successfully in Ubuntu. Is there a way to make same adjustments in windows? I use win only for making audio, so I kinda need that tool
[07:55] <n00bier> sold now
[07:55] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: is that a laptop you're trying to troubleshoot?
[07:55] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: yeah
[07:55] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @  yes its laptop
[07:55] <Tybear241083> hello people.... bit of a noob here. just got UBUNTU on mu PC but really struggling to find information on how to sort out my Graphics and sound drivers
[07:55] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: is there a wireless router/ap close by?
[07:55] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi@ I got hp dv6755ee laptop
[07:56] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i got 755
[07:56] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @  i got linksys  wireless router
[07:56] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: and who owns that file?
[07:56] <Tybear241083> anyone able to shed some light? I have NVIDIA 7050/nforce 610i with intel core2 duo
[07:57] <remoteCTRL> outbackwifi: don't you ever sleep man?
[07:57] <Fargh> is there a way to keep more history when using 'screen' ?
[07:57] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: root
[07:57] <Flannel> Fargh: more history?
[07:57] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Eureka!!! There's the problem
[07:57] <Fargh> yes so i can scroll back
[07:57] <outbackwifi> remoteCTRL: :O
[07:58] <Flannel> Fargh: What do you mean?  in bash?
[07:58] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @ please help me out
[07:58] <Fargh> yes
[07:58] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: so...
[07:58] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: hang on, im figuring out
[07:58] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @ okey
[07:59] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: sudo chown $USERNAME:$USERNAME <kaffeine>
[07:59] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: I mean, that executable
[07:59] <Flannel> Fargh: You want a single command's output or what?
[07:59] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: what do you mean by $USERNAME:$USERNAME?? write it like this?
[08:00] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: was the wireless card working with any other OS?
[08:00] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Yes, exactly like that
[08:00] <Fargh> im running in screen simple sh scripts.  they generate a lot of output
[08:00] <Fargh> if I detach and reattach, I can only see last 40 lines of output
[08:00] <outbackwifi> Fargh: pipe them to less
[08:00] <bobertdos> Geez, weird things going on tonight with permissions and ownership......
[08:00] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi :  yes I am its  working perfectly on  windows vista
[08:00] <n00bier> i wish my dell mini 9 could boot from SD card
[08:00] <salamandyr> anyone using 64-bit HH and having a working usb wireless dongle?
[08:00] <n00bier> then i wouldve put in ubuntu right now
[08:00] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi : yes its working perfectly on windows vista
[08:00] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: i did that
[08:00] <remoteCTRL> bobertdos: and with mounting disks
[08:00] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: ok
[08:01] <Fargh> then they wont be visible anymore at all in the screen, but I have to tail the log file ?
[08:01] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi : I m useing dual  boot
[08:01] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Okay, see if you can open Kaffeine now
[08:01] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: negative!
[08:02] <bobertdos> ......
[08:02] <Theaxiom> whatsup people, I am screwed, when I try to login I get a box that tells me my session lasted less than 10 seconds blah blah, and permission denied to my home directory, what do I do??!!!
[08:02] <Tybear241083> Is a lack of options for screen resolution an indication that graphics drivers have to be installed
[08:02] <Tybear241083> ??
[08:03] <[timux]> Tybear241083: you probably need to activate proprietary drivers
[08:03] <grendal_prime> lgrrrrrrrrrr none of this is working...beotch.
[08:03] <jaspion> hay guyz!
[08:03] <bobertdos> Flannel: I don't suppose you could think of a quick way to check ownership on all of kaffeine's relevant files, could you? :p
[08:03] <Flannel> grendal_prime: Please watch your language.
[08:03] <Tybear241083> I thought so but I downloaded the drivers and tried to install and all I get is can't install or nothing
[08:03] <Flannel> bobertdos: um, besides ls?
[08:04] <jaspion> since thursday im using linux, and i wouldnt like to come back to xp....
[08:04] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: can you pastebin the output of this --> dmesg | grep iwl3945
[08:04] <jaspion> linux > xp
[08:04] <jaspion> maybe linux > all
[08:04] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Try logging in to "safe gnome" under sessions on gdm
[08:04] <scuser> hi all,how can I install sasl support with ldap?
[08:04] <[timux]> Tybear241083: check under system -> administration -> hardware drivers, you should be able to just check off the drivers.
[08:04] <en1gma> i added the mediubuntu repos and tried to install adobe reader and it wont install
[08:05] <en1gma> is this normal
[08:05] <Theaxiom> Flannel: What do I need to do to fix permissions on my home folder? I tried chown travis:travis -R /home/travis
[08:05] <Theaxiom> Flannel: And that still did not fix it.
[08:05] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: look what i get when i open kaffeine using terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54150/
[08:05] <Tybear241083> [timux] is there something that I would likely need to configure to run the nvidia linux drivers?
[08:05] <Flannel> Theaxiom: You'd have to use sudo for that.
[08:05] <n00bier> if i install ubuntu from a usb stick.. can i install it TO the same usb stick? :o
[08:05] <outbackwifi> en1gma: if you need adobe reader, download it from their site and install (the deb, not the rpm)
[08:05] <Tybear241083> yeah I tried that but it doesn't work
[08:05] <en1gma> oh ok
[08:06] <outbackwifi> n00bier: like harakiri ?
[08:06] <Theaxiom> Flannel: I already did that from root command prompt which I booted to from Grub.
[08:06] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: okay, so I'm thinking that somehow the ownership on Kaffeine's entire file structure is root. You might have to track down the relevant directories and check them all. A painfully tedious undertaiking, but I can't think of anything better.
[08:06] <n00bier> ?
[08:06] <Theaxiom> Flannel: I can't login failsafe either
[08:06] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Who said anything about it being a permissions issue anyway?
[08:06] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Create a new user, try and log in, does it work?
[08:06] <[timux]> Tybear241083: try googling for whatever graphics card you have and see if anyone else had similar problems?
[08:06] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: chown -R user. kaffeine
[08:06] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: that will recurse
[08:06] <Theaxiom> Flannel: How do I create a new user?
[08:07] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi @  here is the link  http://paste.ubuntu.com/54151/
[08:07] <Flannel> Theaxiom: adduser username
[08:07] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: write it like this?? with user. kaffeine?
[08:07] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: yes
[08:07] <jack333f> how do you encode ogg vorbis format from /dev/dsp?
[08:07] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: if the username is 'user' :)
[08:08] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: my user name is rockyrock
[08:08] <outbackwifi> jack333f: oggenc should help
[08:08] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: then replace user with rockyrock
[08:08] <Tybear241083> anyone else know anything about NVIDIA 7050/nforce 610i driver installation?
[08:08] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi :  ????
[08:08] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i did that
[08:08] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i'll try
[08:08] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Yes I was able to login to the new user just fine
[08:09] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: negative! Didn't open!
[08:09] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi : please reply fast  i have to go somewhere
[08:09]  * bobertdos beats head on desk
[08:09] <_haywire_> cya New2ubuntu808
[08:09] <New2ubuntu808> cya new2ubuntu808
[08:10] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Alright, so, its something in your profile causing you to not be able to log in, but *not* something in your startup.  I'd start by moving all of your gnome specific dotfiles (rename them.  We're removing them from use, but keeping them around to put back later).
[08:10]  * Cool-Nick wants to kill him self
[08:10] <jmod> Yeah that's why I'm hear can't get it to work right on my hp pavilion dv9230us it has a GeForce Go 7600
[08:10] <outbackwifi> New2ubuntu808: i suggest you go somewhere and come back when you have the time and the patience
[08:10] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi : I am going  somwhere  , my laptop is  switch on .  when i will be back i will   check your reply . please  solve my problem
[08:11] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Okay so how do I change this new account to an administrator?
[08:11] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: now tell me what it is that you are trying to achieve
[08:11] <Flannel> Theaxiom: adduser username admin
[08:11] <New2ubuntu808> outbackwifi :  okey i will come back in 30 min  please dont go anywhere i need your help
[08:11] <Flannel> Theaxiom: that'll add it to the admin group, which is what gives it admin rights.
[08:11] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Well, we do not condone that. I'm just trying to figure out how this would happen.
[08:12] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: Were you ever able to open it normally at all?
[08:12] <Cool-Nick> bobertdos: no i couldn't open it since i install it!
[08:12] <Cool-Nick> *installed
[08:12] <geremy> this is going to sound stupid- I seem to have managed to set my permissions in such a way as to have locked myself out of my home directory. any advice?
[08:13] <Flannel> geremy: Fix them!
[08:13] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i'm trying to open kaffeine normally. It opens just in terminal with sudo
[08:13] <Flannel> geremy: If you don't have another user with admin rights, choose the "recovery console" at the GRUB menu, that'll allow you to do so.
[08:13] <geremy> flannel: yeah, well, that's the problem- I though I knew permissions pretty well, but everything I try seems to fail.
[08:13] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: what happens when you try to open it in terminal as the user rockyrock?
[08:14] <geremy> Flannel: I have admin rights, it just doesn't work anyway
[08:14] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: That's another thing. Graphical programs should never never be opened with sudo, especially in a weird situation like this. Use gksudo
[08:14] <geremy> Flannel: as root, I can cd in, but seemingly no matter what I try, I can't set the permissions to get in as my normal user
[08:14] <Flannel> Cool-Nick: or kdesu, if on KDE
[08:14] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54153/
[08:15] <newprog> hi
[08:15] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: chown -R rockyrock. .kde
[08:15] <newprog> assalamu'alaikum
[08:16] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: chown -R rockyrock. .ICEauthority
[08:16] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: inside your home folder
[08:16] <en1gma> what is the mozilla adobe reader plugin
[08:16] <outbackwifi> en1gma: when you install acrobat reader it will also install the plugin
[08:16] <geremy> flannel: any ideas?
[08:17] <en1gma> i installed the acrobat reader (the .deb) version
[08:17] <en1gma> will it still install it
[08:17] <Flannel> geremy: Can you give us the current permissions/etc?
[08:17] <outbackwifi> en1gma: yes
[08:17] <en1gma> ok cool
[08:17] <en1gma> it didnt create a menu item for acrobat though
[08:17] <geremy> flannel: ~ is dr--r--rw
[08:17] <outbackwifi> en1gma: check in office
[08:18] <en1gma> damn make a liar out of me :)
[08:18] <geremy> flannel: I've set it all  the way up to 777 with no effect
[08:18] <jmod> I need some help with Nvidia set up any takers?
[08:18] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Try to login after moving those files?
[08:18] <Flannel> geremy: Is it mounted read only?
[08:18] <fenerli7> jmod: shoot
[08:18] <Flannel> Theaxiom: Yep
[08:18] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: any joy?
[08:18] <fenerli7> jmod: you may be better off in #nvidia though
[08:18] <Naomarik> how do I start compiz/emerald by default?
[08:18] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Didn't work
[08:18] <Asuka> good Morning
[08:18] <newprog> hey
[08:18] <_haywire_> what's good about it?
[08:18] <Flannel> Theaxiom: If it works, you know its one of those, move them back one-by-one, etc, find the offending file.  If its not, you know you didn't find it, so its somewhere else.
[08:18] <geremy> flannel: I have no idea how that could be, I'm able to touch, etc as root
[08:19] <Asuka> Guten Morgen
[08:19] <fenerli7> Naomarik: system > prefs > appearance > visual effects > normal
[08:19] <newprog> i can't booting to login ubuntu 8
[08:19] <fenerli7> that change should be persistent
[08:19] <Flannel> geremy: Alright.  And what command are you using to chmod them?
[08:19] <fenerli7> newprog: come again?
[08:19] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: wait plz
[08:19] <fenerli7> does anyone know why apps suddenly use the GTK1 theme?
[08:19] <newprog> the screen is blank when i login
[08:19] <fenerli7> synaptic and text editor
[08:19] <geremy> flannel: to chmod which? I've been doing a lot of chmodding
[08:20] <fenerli7> newprog: forgot solution but "ubuntu blank screen after login" in google finds plenty of stuff IIRC
[08:20] <fenerli7> (without the quotes)
[08:20] <Naomarik> fenerli7: that will make emerald the default window theme upon loading?
[08:20] <Naomarik> or windows decorator i should say
[08:20] <fenerli7> emerald is done separately
[08:20] <Naomarik> how is it done
[08:20] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: rockyrock@rockyrock-desktop:~$ chown -R rockyrock. .ICEauthority
[08:20] <Cool-Nick> chown: changing ownership of `.ICEauthority': Operation not permitted
[08:20] <newprog> no i don't login
[08:20] <newprog> before login
[08:20] <Flannel> geremy: chmod 755 -R /home/username
[08:21] <fenerli7> Naomarik: go to system > prefs> adv desktop effects > options > command > change it to "emerald --replace"
[08:21] <fenerli7> (without the quotes)
[08:21] <safeman> hi
[08:21] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: sudo before both
[08:21] <Flannel> Cool-Nick, outbackwifi: just delete that file.
[08:21] <newprog> screen to input username and password blank
[08:21] <geremy> flannel: yeah, did that a few times
[08:21] <geremy> flannel: just did it again, no effect
[08:21] <jmod> well last time i tried to update the driver I get this screen that all jumbeled and I have to revert it back to the default driver to get it back
[08:21] <geremy> flannel: cd errors out, permission denied
[08:21] <Naomarik> hmm there's no adv desktop effects under preferences on my end
[08:22] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i did that, i'll try to open kaffeine
[08:22] <fenerli7> Naomarik: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:22] <Flannel> geremy: Did it give you errors? Can you pastebin the output of this?  ls -l /home && sudo chmod -R 755 /home/username && ls -l /home
[08:22] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: heheheh it works!
[08:22] <fenerli7> Naomarik:  ubuntu doesn't include that for some stupid reason
[08:22] <geremy> yeah give me a second
[08:22] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: yw
[08:22] <Theaxiom> Flannel: I fixed it by opening a nautilus window as root, and then going to the home directory, right clicking on my home directory, and changing the permissions to full, and apply to enclosing files and voila
[08:22] <Cool-Nick> coooool
[08:22] <Naomarik> fenerli7: I have ccsm ;)
[08:22] <fenerli7> ok then, open that up
[08:22] <fenerli7> it's the same thing
[08:23] <scuser> hi all,how can I install sasl support with ldap?
[08:23] <Theaxiom> Flannel: For some reason my user had no access to my own home directory although I was the owner
[08:23] <safeman> I tried a three boot config winxp ubuntu and winxp ultimate
[08:23] <Naomarik> it's open, not seeing any of the steps you listed in here
[08:23] <fenerli7> Naomarik: the option is in "window decorations"
[08:23] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i have another problem now. My card reader sometimes works and sometimes not! Any ideas?
[08:23] <safeman> but le third won't boot
[08:23] <geremy> flannel: the output is pretty minimal, but quite disturbing in its own way, actually
[08:23] <Naomarik> oh n/m i see it
[08:23] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Thanks for shoving me in the right direction :)
[08:23] <Flannel> geremy: It ought to be minimal, just a few lines.
[08:23] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: thats prolly got to do with the cards themselves
[08:24] <bobertdos> outbackwifi: So what was it? Changing ownership of xauthority?
[08:24] <geremy> flannel: should those few lines consist almost entirely of permission denieds and question marks?
[08:24] <fenerli7> does anyone know why some apps suddenly start using the GTK1 theme?
[08:24] <outbackwifi> bobertdos: and .kde
[08:24] <Flannel> geremy: Er,
[08:24] <bobertdos> outbackwifi: geez
[08:24] <Flannel> geremy: Pastebin the output
[08:25] <outbackwifi> !repeat | fenerli7
[08:25] <Naomarik> fenerli7: seems that option had already been set like that
[08:25] <bobertdos> outbackwifi: Wow, how would those have gotten screwed up??
[08:25] <outbackwifi> bobertdos: can't say unless he sudo'ed himself to death
[08:25] <pvl1> fenerli7, bc they are coded with gtk1
[08:25] <fenerli7> pvl1: no, they just changed all of a sudden. synaptic is an example
[08:26] <jmod> join/ #nvidia
[08:26] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: i have another problem :) My external hard doesn't work. I got a message when i plug it
[08:26] <pvl1> fenerli7, do u still have gtk2 installed?
[08:26] <fenerli7> yes, all other apps are using it
[08:26] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: you havent thanked me yet for the first one
[08:26] <bobertdos> outbackwifi: Well he probably was, because he said he had been constantly using sudo to open Kaffeine, so I'm assuming he was doing that with other things too.
[08:26] <fenerli7> pvl1: I think I got it, it seems to happen when I open programs as root
[08:27] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: hehehe thanks so so so so much, is it okay now?
[08:27] <Cool-Nick> hehehehe
[08:27] <geremy> flannel: http://pastebin.ca/1219639
[08:27] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: yeah ok
[08:27] <pvl1> fenerli7, oh u mean just synaptic. oh well, it could be in the settings or what not
[08:27] <geremy> flannel: I had to recreate it, some of the spacing may be off
[08:27] <fenerli7> pvl1: some apps, synaptic being an example
[08:27] <pvl1> fenerli7, only as root tho
[08:27] <outbackwifi> geremy: looks like your fs is screwed
[08:27] <Flannel> geremy: What are your permissions on /home itself?  ls -l / | grep home
[08:28] <Flannel> geremy: Also, these question marks are usually a bad thing.
[08:28] <fenerli7> Naomarik: so it is set to emerald --replace? is it not using emerald?
[08:28] <JDigital> Say, has anyone run an apache webserver?
[08:28] <geremy> ls -l / | grep home
[08:28] <geremy> whoops lol
[08:28] <Cool-Nick> outbackwifi: when i plug any external hard i get a message says: Cant mount volume
[08:28] <fenerli7> pvl1: yes, it's only as root, just tried with gedit
[08:28] <outbackwifi> geremy: can you pastebin dmesg
[08:28] <Naomarik> aye fenerli7
[08:28] <Flannel> geremy: or ls -l /  and then just read the perms on the homedi
[08:28] <JDigital> I'm wondering how you might run two at once using init.d
[08:28] <Naomarik> fenerli7: I'm guessing i need to load compiz upon boot
[08:28] <Naomarik> instead of metacity
[08:28] <Flannel> JDigital: Why do you want to run two at once?
[08:28] <bobertdos> Cool-Nick: One final comment, I believe your first problem arose because of some overzealous use of sudo. For future reference, remember what Flannel and I said about gksudo and kdesu.
[08:28] <fenerli7> Naomarik: can you try running emerald --replace manually, e.g. through alt-F2
[08:28] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: easy way is to install pmount and make an entry for the hard disk in /etc/pmount.allow
[08:29] <pvl1> fenerli7, must be the settings for root then. dunno how to fix that. there should be a config file for it
[08:29] <JDigital> Flannel: Security; run each as its own user.
[08:29] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: sudo aptt-get install pmount
[08:29] <geremy> outbackwifi: I'm recreating this, it can't boot into gnome due to permissions on /home
[08:29] <outbackwifi> Cool-Nick: sudo apt-get install pmount
[08:29] <Naomarik> fenerli7:  yah it lets me do that
[08:29] <fenerli7> pvl1: figured so, I have no idea either, currently looking
[08:29] <geremy> flannel: its dr--r--rw
[08:29] <outbackwifi> geremy: what are those ??? marks doing there
[08:29] <Ayabara> how can I delete all history in my network manager?
[08:29] <zachera> How do I CHMOD all files AND folders within a foldeR?
[08:29] <Flannel> JDigital: You might want to ask in #apache if its even doable.
[08:29] <fenerli7> Naomarik: you can manage this with fusion-icon
[08:29] <geremy> outbackwifi: not trying to be rude, but if I knew I wouldn't be asking
[08:29] <Flannel> zachera: Why do you want to do that?
[08:30] <fenerli7> Naomarik: still, there should be no need
[08:30] <Naomarik> fenerli7: yeah but how do I make compiz automatically boot?
[08:30] <zachera> Flannel: Because I do?
[08:30] <JDigital> #apache recommended it to me. They won't tell me how it's done
[08:30] <geremy> outbackwifi: and here
[08:30] <safeman> can anynone tell me where i can find some help about triple boot with grub, pliz?
[08:30] <outbackwifi> geremy: boot into single and fsck that partition
[08:30] <Flannel> geremy: well, theres some of the issue.  That ought to be 755
[08:30] <geremy> outbackwifi: I thought I knew something
[08:30] <JDigital> I'm hoping someone here might have a nidea
[08:30] <fenerli7> Naomarik: add fusion-icon to your startup apps
[08:30] <JDigital> also, an idea
[08:30] <davidryder> JDigital: what's up?
[08:30] <fenerli7> safeman: triple booting what OS's?
[08:30] <Flannel> geremy: but I agree, fsck first. (shutdown -F -r now)
[08:30] <geremy> flannel: worked
[08:30] <Flannel> JDigital: you'd have to give them separate PIDs and stuff.
[08:31] <outbackwifi> geremy: the 755 worked?
[08:31] <geremy> flannel: I wonder why i could cd into /home though
[08:31] <geremy> flannel: yeah
[08:31] <safeman> winxp ubuntu xp ultimate
[08:31] <Flannel> geremy: I'd take a timeout now and fsck.  You're not really sure why thats the way it is, and best to be safe.
[08:31] <JDigital> davidryder: I can run two apaches at once, I think, but I don't know how to configure init.d
[08:31] <JDigital> er, to make two apaches
[08:31] <Flannel> JDigital: you'd have to give them separate PIDs and stuff.  Copy the apache one, and modify it a little.
[08:31] <JDigital> /etc/init.d/apache2 is 172 lines long
[08:31]  * bobertdos bids all goodnight and drops dead
[08:31] <JDigital> I don't know what of the init.d to modify or how.
[08:31] <outbackwifi> JDigital: you dont have to run two apaches; you can run manny vhosts with one
[08:32] <geremy> flannel: yeah... pretty strange stuff...
[08:32] <JDigital> outbackwifi: No, I need to run each as its own user, for security.
[08:32] <Flannel> JDigital: remember, you'll have to make separate apache configuration directories and stuff too, or do some fancy other stuff..  I'm honestly not sure it'd be worth it.
[08:32] <vocx> Anybody knows why Ubuntu DVD releases are relatively hidden?  I found the DVD edition by using google, but not through the main Getubuntu page. I'm just curious to know not really having a problem with it.
[08:33] <outbackwifi> JDigital: security has got nothing to do with running multiple instances; you can just suid the scripts for that particular user
[08:33] <davidryder> i'm getting apache now
[08:33] <JDigital> outbackwifi: mod_php isn't cgi
[08:33] <JDigital> PHP can run as CGI but it's slow. It's faster with mod_fastcgi but that's unmaintained. It's maintained with mod_fcgid but that's arcane
[08:33] <geremy> flannel: hmm so, fsck terminating with a core dump, thats bad. backup and start fresh?
[08:34] <outbackwifi> JDigital: and the point of all this is ...
[08:34] <JDigital> I would need an Intelligence score of 19 to use suexec
[08:34] <Flannel> geremy: Uh...  maybe.  Even if you get a good fsck out of this, there's no telling what other issues there are laying in wait for you.  So, I'd say a backup and reinstall will probably be the least time consuming.
[08:35] <geremy> flannel: alright. thanks a ton for your help
[08:35] <outbackwifi> JDigital: :o
[08:35] <JDigital> There are several tutorials online, all of which say that they couldn't get the other tutorials to work
[08:35] <JDigital> It's black magic
[08:36] <Bill> Hi how do i make a beep sound on localhost through a ssh connection?
[08:37] <paul68> I'm running a dual boot and under windows I have a lot of mails in outlook is there a simple way to transfer these to thunderbird using the import function or is this impossible
[08:37] <outbackwifi> bill: beep
[08:37] <JDigital> paul68: what I did was switch to gmail :)
[08:38] <Ayabara> Where is the wireless network profiles stored?
[08:38] <paul68> Jdigital I have that to but more to filter out junkmails to keep my home email as clean as possible from junk mail
[08:38] <outbackwifi> Ayabara: right click on network manager, click on 'edit wireless networks'
[08:38] <JDigital> gmail does a good job of spamfiltering
[08:39] <dr_willis> bill there is a 'beep'  command that can play all sorts of customizable beeps
[08:39] <JDigital> and also of keeping your e-mail stored in case the FBI ever needs to investigate you
[08:39] <dr_willis> !info beep
[08:39] <paul68> I know that it's that email that I use to register to fora ect
[08:39] <Ayabara> outbackwifi: did that and deleted my network, but still all except mine show up in the list of available networks
[08:39] <outbackwifi> Ayabara: are you broadcasting SSID?
[08:40] <fenerli7> !patience
[08:40] <Ayabara> outbackwifi: I'm on intrepid, so I really shouldn't get any support in here. Was just wondering how I can delete the history :-)
[08:40] <paul68> I'm in europe so the chance of investigate me is rather slim :-)
[08:40] <outbackwifi> Ayabara: #ubuntu+1 please
[08:40] <outbackwifi> paul68: easier way is to export from outlook and then import these into thunderbird
[08:41] <Ayabara> outbackwifi: that's what I meant. just figured someone here could tell me what directory the network profiles are stored in so I could delete them
[08:41] <outbackwifi> Ayabara: hows that possible cos we dont run intrepid
[08:41] <paul68> or install the english thunderbird under windows and then export these from there to linux?
[08:42] <outbackwifi> paul68: once its inside thunderbird, just copy the profile folder into linux. (normally in /home/user/.thunderbird)
[08:42] <scuser> hi all, does anyone know how to fix the error "ldapsearch: not compiled with SASL support" ?
[08:42] <paul68> ok wil give it a try
[08:42] <outbackwifi> paul68: in Windoze it is in Documents and Settings, User, Application Data, Thunderbird
[08:42] <Ayabara> outbackwifi: I thought it could be the same folder thats all. for instance ~/.gnome is in the same place on both 8.04 and 8.10 ;)
[08:42] <vocx> scuser, dude, seems like you need to get the source and compile the program yourself
[08:43] <fenerli7> scuser: re-compile it with SASL, or try and avoid the need for it
[08:43] <paul68> under vista it's different
[08:43] <d0htem> thx for the help with virtualbox whoever u were
[08:43] <outbackwifi> paul68: never heard of that :P
[08:43] <paul68> lucky you :-)
[08:43] <Sa[i]nT> What's the 8.10 beta like. I'm getting it. Go ahead and jump ahead.
[08:44] <fenerli7> nice, has a few things I've been waiting far too long for too
[08:44] <scuser> vocx, fenerli7: I'm using ubuntu 8.04, so I've installed ldap and kerberos from the repository, I didn't needed to use the sources to compile
[08:44] <Sa[i]nT> I looking at the features, and I'm liking what I'm seeing.
[08:44] <sachi> ？
[08:44] <fenerli7> scuser: I know, it was pre-compiled, but if you want that component, you have to compile it yourself
[08:45] <Chris_Foster> I have ubuntu server running a webserver, and I heard of a way to set it up so I can access it remotely from outside my LAN, without entering my IP address everytime, since it changes. What was this called again?
[08:45] <fenerli7> Sa[i]nT: yes, both ubuntu 8.10 and fedora 10 have a lot of nice features
[08:45] <vocx> scuser, well, according to your warning message, you need to get the sources to compile with SASL support
[08:45] <Sa[i]nT> The update is huge tho. It's going to kill the ubuntu servers on release day.
[08:45] <JDigital> Chris_Foster: no-ip?
[08:45] <outbackwifi> scuser you need to install libsasl2-modules-ldap
[08:46] <Chris_Foster> JDigital: well, its letters rather than numbers. And the letters dont change.