[12:09] <thybo> hello?
[12:09] <thybo> anybody?
[12:09] <Bearcat> foot: no prob. I'll be around
[12:10] <narvik86> thybo: hello
[12:10] <thybo> hello narvik
[12:10] <thybo> how are you?
[12:10] <narvik86> thybo: ok thx L(
[12:10] <thybo> :p
[12:11] <thybo> i have a problem with kafeine :'(
[12:11] <narvik86> thybo: o_O
[12:11] <thybo> i installed it
[12:11] <thybo> but
[12:11] <thybo> it wont play mp3
[12:11] <thybo> or avi :(
[12:11] <narvik86> !mp3
[12:11] <thybo> yeah
[12:12] <narvik86> installed codeck?
[12:12] <narvik86> installed codecs?
[12:12] <thybo> u have to install codecs to?
[12:12] <thybo> too?
[12:12] <thybo> when it installs xine it doesn't install the codecs along?
[12:12] <narvik86> not all
[12:13] <thybo> not mp3? 0_o
[12:13] <otaku-san> thybo: neither will it do it for amarok
[12:13] <otaku-san> thybo: mp3 is a restricted format
[12:14] <aliasfred> !restricted
[12:14] <otaku-san> thybo: it's not open source so normally you'll get !restricted format or what aliasfred just did
[12:14] <otaku-san> thybo: on this irc
[12:14] <aliasfred> the bot is down ?
[12:14] <narvik86> yes :/
[12:15] <aliasfred> today is hollyday then :)
[12:16] <macconline> hi... plugin flash in firefox 2.0 ???
[12:16] <otaku-san> aliasfred: what do you mean the bot is down? for irc?
[12:16] <aliasfred> otaku-san: well he produced no answer and usual he does
[12:16] <narvik86> ubotu bot :)
[12:16] <aliasfred> so i guess he is down
[12:16] <thybo> so what do i do? :'(
[12:16] <otaku-san> macconline: everytime I've tried to install the flash plugin it freaks
[12:17] <aliasfred> thybo: google 'restricted ubuntu'
[12:17] <otaku-san> macconline: I've heard you can wine firefox to use flash...I think I'll try that
[12:17] <thybo> coz i like to read avi and mp3
[12:17] <thybo> and wma
[12:18] <otaku-san> me too!  I'm so restricted!
[12:18] <thybo> i used to be able to do it with knoppix
[12:18] <thybo> how come not with ubuntu?:s
[12:18] <aliasfred> thybo: hehe :) no ubuntu is the only linux unable to do it ? well not is you google 'restricted format ubuntu' :)
[12:18] <macconline> otaku-san: with wina??
[12:19] <macconline> otaku-san: with wine??
[12:19] <thybo> but mms does read mp3!!!
[12:19] <thybo> this drives me craz
[12:19] <thybo> crrazy
[12:19] <aliasfred> hehe :)
[12:20] <thybo> aliasfred explain me that :d
[12:20] <otaku-san> macconline: yes google wine it allows Linux (and a few others) to be able to run Windoze apps
[12:22] <otaku-san> macconline: for example you could run Winamp, or Internet Explorer in Linux.  In your case Windows Firefox (which can use flash) will be used
[12:22] <macconline> otaku-san: but with wine install the plugin flash player in firefox???
[12:23] <narvik86> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:24] <macconline> otaku-san: ok, so firefox for windows with wine for to use in linux???
[12:24] <otaku-san> macconline: Yep!
[12:27] <klerfayt> how to open port 6337
[12:27] <macconline> otaku-san: why to use firefox for windows in linux, if have firefox for linux??
[12:27] <klerfayt> (udp)
[12:27] <macconline> otaku-san: do not understand
[12:28] <otaku-san> macconline: because the Linux version of firefox has a bug with Flash.  But Windoze version of Firefox is ok with Flash.
[12:28] <narvik86> macconline: to use windows flash plugin
[12:29] <macconline> otaku-san: ok, very thanks...
[12:29] <otaku-san> macconline: no prob
[12:29] <macconline> narvik86: thanks
[12:29] <otaku-san> narvik86: darn those restricted formats! ;)
[12:30] <narvik86> otaku-san: :)
[12:30] <otaku-san> got to get off for a bit
[12:30] <otaku-san> exit
[12:31] <klerfayt> flash over here freezes ffox sometimes...
[12:31] <macconline> wine or xwine ??
[12:37] <wildbat> anyone knows any good codec pack like (k-lite maga) in windows?
[12:45] <draik> wow... this is a very exciting channel... woohoo!
[12:46] <megmeister> Hey guys..
[12:46] <narvik86> hi
[12:47] <megmeister> i am new to this so i really don't even know what i clicked on to get in here.. What is this?
[12:47] <thybo> still cant play mp3:d
[12:47] <narvik86> thybo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it works, have to
[12:48] <thybo> i cant find the specified file in synaptic :|
[12:48] <narvik86> thybo: ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:49] <narvik86> thybo: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:49] <thybo> thx what is it
[12:49] <thybo> ?
[12:49] <draik> megmeister
[12:49] <narvik86> to create own sources.list
[12:50] <draik> you are in an IRC, Internet Relay Chat
[12:50] <draik> megmeister /topic
[12:50] <narvik86> i have to go, thybo create better sources.list and all of these (restricted) will be available
[12:50] <narvik86> good night all
[12:50] <thybo> lolo
[12:50] <thybo> ok
[12:50] <thybo> thx
[12:51] <pm> do you know any sites with screenshots of kde 4?
[12:51] <draik> google images
[12:52] <thybo> there should be some on Osdir.com
[12:52] <thybo> i guess
[12:52] <draik> osvids.com maybe
[12:54] <megmeister> i can't download anything from anywhere.. it won't let me
[12:58] <pm> thanks
[01:00] <thybo>  anyone got a healthy source i can add to get some codec packs
[01:06] <dek> how do I execute programs compiled by Free Pascal?
[01:07] <dek> I created some "hello world" to test it, it compiles correctly and i got my "executable file", but I double click, and try console, but it doesn't do anything
[01:07] <dek> I checked permissions and "executable file" is checked
[01:09] <unix_infidel> anyone know how many GB hard disk space macromedia mx takes?  The Recommended is only a couple hundered MB, but what's the real usage for the default suite install?
[01:11] <aliasfred> macromedia mx is on kubuntu ?!?!?
[01:11] <unix_infidel> aliasfred: cxoffice 5
[01:12] <aliasfred> ?
[01:12] <unix_infidel> wondering how much space it usually takes assuming you do the default install with a couple of needed plugins.
[01:12] <unix_infidel> aliasfred: short, answer, yes you can get it working in KUbuntu.
[01:13] <aliasfred> unix_infidel: any pointer on how ?
[01:13] <unix_infidel> cxoffice 5
[01:15] <megmeister> seriously i need help with this..
[01:15] <megmeister> hello?
[01:15] <megmeister> anyone?
[01:21] <actinic> hey is anyone finding KDE 3.5.4 a bit sluggish compared to previous versions?
[01:21] <klerfayt> where are located desktop menu entries?
[01:22] <otaku-san> okay gonna be n00b for a bit. For AmaroK 1.4 it says Apt Source than gives deb and a link to an index then dapper main I didn't want to post the link cuz' of flood kills
[01:22] <otaku-san> what do I do?
[01:24] <otaku-san> I'm installing Amarok...sorry tired
[01:30] <DFM> wvwning
[01:30] <DFM> evening
[01:30] <DFM> try it again
[01:31] <dako> I am using KMail and did a encypt test. When I tried to open I got an error "Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data."
[01:31] <DFM> I am in need of assistance. I am trying to install the driver for the ATI card on my ThinkPad a21m.
[01:32] <DFM> I am trying to run this command from the command prompt since I now have no X......gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:33] <DFM> I am using kubuntu 6.06 and I have read and followed instruction's from several sites and i always kill my X
[01:33] <DFM> Tell's me that gksudo isn't a valid command
[01:33] <DFM> neither is gedit so I tried kedit and got same response
[01:35] <djk_> try sudo nano /etc...
[01:36] <DFM> inplace of gedit ?
[01:36] <DFM> drop gksudo and gedit for sudo nano?
[01:36] <djk_> yes
[01:37] <DFM> Ok let me try that. Not familiar with how to edit from command line yet
[01:38] <djk_> er..wait, you used to use ubuntu, now freshly installed kubuntu (meaning, not ubuntu+then kubuntu-desktop) ?
[01:38] <DFM> no I done a fresh install of kubuntu
[01:38] <DFM> prefer ke
[01:38] <DFM> kde
[01:39] <djk_> gksudo and gedit is gnome-crap..try kdesu kate /etc/...
[01:39] <DFM> got my wifi going then done some update from the standard repository and resolution went to crap
[01:40] <DFM> figured which is why I thought to substitute k for the g
[01:42] <DFM> Problem I am having is very slow frame rate's due to wrong or basic driver for card. When I ran Linux on an old desktop with Nvidia I didn't have very much trouble installing the right driver.
[01:43] <DFM> Since this is an old laptop with Ati I don't want to change the vid card
[01:46] <djk_> DFM: i suppose you can just follow the wiki..
[01:46] <DFM> Tried numerous times
[01:46] <DFM> figured I had to be doing something wrong
[01:46] <DFM> probably still am
[01:47] <djk_> maybe ask in #ubuntu since there's more activity atm
[01:47] <DFM> first I couldn't download the fglrx kept telling me error that it might break the system
[01:48] <DFM> finally able to do that then when I follow the instructions and reboot it locks up and just shows the kubuntu splash
[01:49] <DFM> Somehow I got my resolution back to 1024 x 768 but still can run any app that needs more that 1 to 2 FPS
[01:50] <djk_> have you confirmed that the driver is working
[01:51] <actinic> DFM:  have you looked at EasyUbuntu to help with the ATI install?
[01:51] <actinic> It's http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[01:51] <djk_> reconfigured xserver-xorg so you are actually using fglrx instead of ati?
[01:51] <DFM> no I haven't didn't know of it yet. Thanks I will look now.
[01:51] <DFM> yes
[01:51] <foot> any sign of bearcat?
[01:51] <djk_> and..confirmed that fglrx is even supporting your card?
[01:52] <DFM> using command line from instructions on a page yet I don't believe that I changed everything properly
[01:52] <DFM> ah no I have not done that.
[01:52] <DFM> guess I took for granted a 5 year old laptop with rage would be supported or be made to work
[01:53] <DFM> I have read in forums where people have made this card work
[01:53] <actinic> wow that's getting a bit long in the tooth
[01:53] <DFM> well I picked up this thinkpad for $50
[01:53] <djk_> sure it's most likely supported, but not by fglrx..
[01:54] <DFM> really just wanted wifi and stability and a learning platform
[01:54] <djk_> use gentoo if you want a real learning platform ;)
[01:55] <DFM> if not supported by fglrx where should I look?
[01:55] <DFM> one day for sure but just getting a video card to work is kicking my arse............a littl
[01:56] <djk_> what's the name of the card anyway?
[01:56] <wildbat> anyone can PM a step by step info, that install kubuntu in WINXP ready system on second HD, which boot both OS in NTLDR ?
[01:57] <DFM> Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x rev 64
[01:57] <djk_> ntldr?
[01:57] <DFM> I believe with 16 megs
[01:57] <DFM> brb
[01:57] <Agios> wildbat: search the kubuntu forums. There's probably a how-to
 I didn't ~ but i get a GRUB error instead
[01:58] <wildbat> I did  i mean ~
[02:00] <djk_> why do you want to use the ntldr instead of grub?
[02:00] <actinic> DFM, here's another ATI reference:  http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[02:00] <DFM> thanks
[02:01] <wildbat> djk_: ntldr boot up faster ^^
[02:01] <IceSerpent> hello
[02:03] <IceSerpent> does anybody know how to enable PDO extension in php5?
[02:03] <foot> anyone familiar with tar?
[02:03] <IceSerpent> foot: yes, why?
[02:04] <foot> IceSerpent: I am trying to install ivtv drivers. I am at the stage where it says to untar my file, and I want to make sure I am not screing anything up.
[02:05] <foot> IceSerpent: to untar a file I would use tar -xf   ...
[02:05] <IceSerpent> foot: is the file compressed?
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent:  it is ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent: read I dont know.
[02:06] <IceSerpent> foot: 'tar zxvpf ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz'
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent: thx
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: z - to uncompress
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: x - to untar
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: v - to make tar chatty - safe to skip this one, if you want
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: p - to preserve permissions, if I recall correctly
[02:08] <foot> IceSerpent: i am folowing you up to the 'chatty'
[02:08] <IceSerpent> foot: v == verbose, causes tar to give some extra output to the terminal
[02:11] <[mX] > uhm.. is there a way to easily revert from edgy to dapper >:)
[02:11] <foot> IceSerpent: thx much
[02:11] <aarohi> i'm installig kubuntu-desktop. kdm configuration wants me to pick between kdm or gdm. i'm not sure as i've not tried them yet and not quite sure of the difference. please suggest what i should pick
[02:12] <Doodluv> really its preference to me...
[02:12] <DFM> djk since I am not registered I can't reply
[02:13] <DFM> how do I register. never really used irc before?
[02:14] <aarohi> DFM: type /nickserv help register
[02:14] <DFM> k
[02:14] <foot> IceSerpent: YES making headway again!!!! only been at this since tuesday noon
[02:16] <djk_> aarohi: it doesn't matter, they both do the same..
[02:16] <foot> does linux list all the errors at the end, before giving one back ones prompt?
[02:16] <aarohi> djk_: i choosed gdm
[02:18] <DFM> REGISTERMANDRAKE
[02:18] <djk_> close
[02:18] <DFM> well now that wasn't very smart
[02:20] <aarohi> DFM: indeed
[02:22] <DFM> thanks djk
[02:22] <djk_> you're welcome
[02:24] <claudio> Hi from Brasil !!
[02:25] <dek> how do I compile Beesoft Commander? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37435
[02:26] <soulrider> ive been trying to compile it too, but with no luck... anyone ?
[02:32] <neuraloverload> Can anyone tell me how to enable Mp3 support on Kubuntu, please?
[02:32] <neuraloverload> I googled and googled for hours... :(
[02:32] <draik> !restricted
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:33] <draik> neuraloverload > !restricted
[02:36] <neuraloverload> I looked at the restricted formats guide
[02:36] <neuraloverload> Cant get it to work
[02:36] <Hawkwind> Define *Can't get it to work*
[02:37] <Hawkwind> neuraloverload: Just install all the packages it lists and mp3 support will work
[02:37] <nejode> go to synaptic/adept and install evrything that says lame
[02:38] <Agios> I'm guessing he can't fiogure out how to add the restricted keyword to his sources
[02:38] <neuraloverload> You mean
[02:38] <neuraloverload> Umm...
[02:38] <Hawkwind> neuraloverload: What's the exact problem you're having ?
[02:38] <neuraloverload> libxine-extracodecs
[02:38] <actinic> neuraloverload, here's the easy way: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[02:39] <neuraloverload> Hmm
[02:39] <neuraloverload> Ill try it
[02:40] <nejode> how about automatix?
[02:40] <actinic> yeah that works too
[02:40] <actinic> but the purists around here disdain it
[02:41] <foot> gedit and vim basicly do the same thing right?
[02:41] <IceSerpent> can anybody tell me which package installs lex please?
[02:42] <nejode> gedit=gui  vim=cli
[02:42] <sonic> Hi there, I just upgraded a machine to dapper and went to log in (remotely). I'm getting a warning saying: 'WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!'. How can I fix this?
[02:44] <Hawkwind> sonic: It's just a warning, it should still let you in.  If not, remove the key from your local machiens ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and then ssh in again
[02:44] <bigbill52a> is there something wrong with the weather aplet...you put in the correct location..but you can select it in the first tab..and it doesnt do anything but show a question mark
[02:44] <bigbill52a> can't select it
[02:44] <Hawkwind> bigbill52a: Try adding a second one and see if the first one works then
[02:44] <bigbill52a> ok
[02:44] <sonic> There's a load of keys there and I can't find the one with the ip
[02:45] <sonic> I'll look again
[02:45] <ubuntu> How can I get kubuntu on my language, brazilian portuguese? Is there a lang_package for it?
[02:45] <Hawkwind> sonic: Well certainly you know the IP of the machine you are trying to ssh to.  Use an editor and use it's search function
[02:45] <ubuntu> On ubuntu I could install direct on my language...
[02:45] <neuraloverload> Hey actinic, i think this is gonna work, thanks man :D
[02:45] <bigbill52a> says unknown station in the first tab...
[02:46] <actinic> neuraloverload, no problem and remember, there's always an easy way :)
[02:46] <sonic> Hawkwind: The ip isn't there
[02:47] <sonic> Should I just add it?
[02:47] <bigbill52a> kweather error..station doesnt exist..even though it updates in the 2nd tab
[02:47] <neuraloverload> Yeap
[02:48] <Hawkwind> sonic: If it's not there then it should allow you to ssh in without warning.  That warning you can answer Yes to and it'll let you in
[02:48] <sonic> I don't get the option
[02:48] <sonic> RSA host key for <IP_ADDRESS> has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[02:48] <sonic> Host key verification failed.
[03:03] <IceSerpent> /quit
[03:15] <foot> Has anyone seen a bearcat roaming about?
[03:15] <crimsun> a ... what?
[03:16] <Hawkwind> foot: I haven't seen him here today
[03:17] <Hawkwind> crimsun: He's looking for someone by the nick of 'bearkat'
[03:17] <foot> Hawkwind: thanks, I rebooted and forgot to restart konversation ;/
[03:17] <otaku-san> foot: I saw him earlier today about 4ish but he got off
[03:18] <otaku-san> cmt time that is
[03:18] <Hawkwind> !seen bearkat
[03:18] <ubotu> I haven't seen bearkat recently
[03:18] <foot> thanks. I spoke to him a while ago, he will be back
[03:18] <otaku-san> cool
[03:19] <otaku-san> hey hey n00b question!
[03:20] <otaku-san> ok I'm trying to get amarok to play mp3's (!restricted I know) and I know I need the libxine-extracodecs
[03:21] <otaku-san> so I'm on packages.ubuntu.com and I found it but it's in 7 different packs...do I just down them all and compile?
[03:22] <otaku-san> or did I just scare you guys away?
[03:22] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: No.  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:24] <otaku-san> ahhhhh duh!  Ok I've been trying to get Kubuntu setup with what I want...and it's really really fun! *eye twitch*
[03:24] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: thanks ok time to try it
[03:27] <ryanakca> forward from #kubuntu-fr: For some reason (asker doesn't know why, or steps to reproduce), He can no longer add bookmarks to his bookmarks bar... it's empty... (Konqueror, Dapper)
[03:32] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hey it didn't work. it's pulling off the old "package is not available" bit and "E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate" whats up?
[03:32] <nalioth> ryanakca: you still working on the bookmarks thing?
[03:33] <ryanakca> nalioth: bookmarks thing? I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing as you are... but yes... it is a "bookmark" thing
[03:33] <ryanakca> nalioth: why... is it a bug??
[03:33] <nalioth> ryanakca: are you still helping the guy?
[03:34] <ryanakca> nalioth: among other things... like watching "the last of the mohicans" out of the corner of my eye... and doing that NUN stuff...
[03:35] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Then you need to enable universe and multiverse for *all* of your sources
[03:35] <nalioth> ryanakca: check and see if his .$browswer dir is writeable and further, if his bookmarks.htm file is writeable
[03:36] <ryanakca> nalioth: kk
[03:37] <ryanakca> nalioth: I had had him move all the konqueror folders from ~/.kde   to ~/ ... didn't work
[03:37] <nalioth> ah, konqueror.  he probably used sudo or something
[03:37] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: in Adept under manage repos...I tried that...tho' let me check it again to see if I missed a repo
[03:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: yep they're all enabled...maybe rebootin' will work?
[03:39] <ryanakca> nalioth: nope...
[03:39] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Rebooting is for Windows users, or after installing a new kernel
[03:39] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Did you do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <DaSkreech> AHhhhhh
[03:40] <foot> bearcat: Ahh just the feline ursine I was looking for
[03:40] <Bearcat> lol
[03:40] <djk_> Hawkwind: rebooting is for crappy windows users...
[03:41] <Bearcat> foot: actually, i'm just a feline, but i'll excuse the transgression....this time! <.<  >.>
[03:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Hahaha! yeah rebooting is for windoze. Yes, and I tried that update than install too.
[03:41] <ryanakca> djk_:  ever had fun with with new kernel modules?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ca please
[03:41] <djk_> ryanakca: why are you asking?
[03:42] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: sure hold on
[03:42] <Bearcat> foot: so what's up?
[03:42] <foot> Bearcat: so I got a bit farther on my brain, some fleas did loose their life in the overclock heat wave, now I am all they way down to seting up myth tv but the distructions are for gnome, and I am a foot!
[03:43] <DFM> Anyone able to tell me how long easyubuntu should take to install everything? The shell stopped at "setting up libqt-perl (3.008-1.4)
[03:43] <Bearcat> Bearcat is listening to "Ananamin" by Keita, Salif on Moffou with amaroK  <---- just for you foot
[03:44] <Bearcat> foot: cool! That's not to hard to figure out with me around. *struts*
[03:44] <DFM> just a flashing cursor and appears to be no activity on the HD
[03:44] <ryanakca> djk_: "rebooting is for crappy windows users..."       I remember having to reboot several times.... when messing around with kernel modules and stuff
[03:44] <DFM> should I just let it sit for awhile and see what happens?
[03:44] <Bearcat> foot: you need to find the menu editor in this distro
[03:45] <djk_> ryanakca: i was replying to Hawkwinds statement that 'rebooting is for windows'...
[03:45] <Bearcat> foot: actually, its just "kmenuedit" in a terminal
[03:45] <foot> Bearcat: any hints?)
[03:46] <foot> Bearcat: do I specify what I want to edit?
[03:46] <Bearcat> nope that command will just open it up
[03:47] <foot> Bearcat: O'Tay
[03:47] <Bearcat> foot: i donno if kubuntu installed a menu item for mythtv for you, but look under Multimedia first.
[03:47] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: my konqueror can't upload or download to my full bandwidth potential so it's a bit slow....Firefox can tho' so it loading hold on
[03:47] <foot> Bearcat: WARNING: Could not read /home/lovely/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[03:48] <c0rrupt> is there anyway to listen to sound on more then one application at the same time?
[03:48] <c0rrupt> my sound card is realtek ac'97
[03:48] <Hawkwind> c0rrupt: If your sound card supports it, sure
[03:48] <c0rrupt> well how do i know if it does
[03:48] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: here you go  http://pastebin.ca/127163
[03:48] <c0rrupt> do i have to install drivers for it or something?
[03:48] <Bearcat> foot: actually wait
[03:48] <Hawkwind> Majority of the onboard cards don't support dual channel
[03:48] <foot> Bearcat: kmenu editor
[03:48] <c0rrupt> is there any work arounds?
[03:49] <foot> Bearcat: would it be listed under multimeadia?
[03:49] <Bearcat> yess
[03:49] <Bearcat> if it's there at all
[03:49] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[03:49] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: That's my current sources.list
[03:50] <foot> Bearcat: no love Doctor Jon... err ahh cat
[03:50] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: If you want, replace yours with that one and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:50] <Hawkwind> c0rrupt: Go purchase a cheap $20 SBLive card from Walmart
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: ok, then we'll make one, but let me ask you a few things first
[03:50] <c0rrupt> why SBLive ?
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: nevermind. let's just do it.
[03:50] <foot> Bearcat: yes I respect you ;)
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: O.o  putz
[03:51] <foot> Bearcat: lol
[03:51] <Bearcat> foot: anyway, with Multimedia selected, click on the "new item" icon in your toolbar
[03:52] <msimmons> any thinkpad users?
[03:52] <foot> Bearcat: and the name is?
[03:52] <Bearcat> foot:  "MythTv Set-up" or something like that
[03:52] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: question....sad as it is  how do you work a editor program in root?  I've been wondering this
[03:52] <foot> Bearcat: I thought linux was specific?!?
[03:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Replace 'kwrite' with the editor of your choice
[03:53] <Bearcat> foot: it is, but your just telling it what you want the title to be in your K-menu
[03:53] <foot> Bearcat: and this is the setup file or the run file or both?
[03:54] <Bearcat> foot: in the "command:" field put "mythtv-setup"
[03:54] <Bearcat> foot: this is just the setup program
[03:54] <foot> Bearcat: done
[03:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: ahh and for gpg's you would put sudo gpg -keyserver.... to use them as root?
[03:55] <Bearcat> foot: click the checkbox for "Run as a different user" and "username" will become enabled. Put "mythtv" in that box. It is case specific
[03:55] <foot> Bearcat: next?
[03:56] <Bearcat> That;s it, but let's add an entry for the main program shall we?
[03:56] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I assume.  I've never really messed with gpg stuff to be honest
[03:56] <Bearcat> Select Multimedia and click on "New Item" again
[03:57] <foot> Bearcat:  btw, I didnt get an account with the zap2it page yet. I had a question or two
[03:58] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: cool okay time for some hackin'
[03:58] <Bearcat> foot: Name: MythTv, Command: myth-frontend. You might as well have it run as "mythtv" as well, we can always change that later.
[03:59] <Bearcat> foot: by the way, where this how-to tells you to restart, it's unnessesary for a few of them
[04:00] <Bearcat> foot: also, before you run mythtv-set up you'll want to make this chat window "keep above other windows. The mythtv apps are full screen. If you loose the window, you can always cycle to it with alt-tab. You might try an alt-tab now to see what it does.
[04:01] <foot> Bearcat: ok, so save the mythtv multimedia
[04:01] <foot> Bearcat: also by using the scroll bar on the mouse.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Bye yall
[04:02] <Bearcat> foot: oh, cool. i didn't realise that was the default kubutu set up. You can change what your mouse buttons do in the desktop settings
[04:02] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: should I have kept the original repos in the source list and added the extras or just take out the original and put the extras in it's place?
[04:02] <Bearcat> my mouse wheel switches desktops, because jaguarundi are just cool like that.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Keep the original
[04:02] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: That list on my forums has all of the originals, plus the new stuff
[04:03] <c0rrupt> Hawkwind is there any place to check if my card supports dual channel
[04:03] <c0rrupt> "7.1 channel out"
[04:04] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Yeah I saw that Forum list contained the original so I just replaced the original
[04:04] <c0rrupt`> djk_, you get my pms?
[04:04] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: If you read the entire post, at the top it tells you about moving your current list to a backup spot
[04:04] <otaku-san> yeah I did
[04:05] <otaku-san> and theres undo
[04:05] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find some cheap case fans?
[04:05] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: newegg.com is usually my first stop. Also you might check compugeeks.com
[04:06] <unix_infidel> newegg is a terrible place to shop imho.
[04:06] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: if you want cheap and fancy with a *awesome* return policy chekc out frozencpu.com *first*
[04:06] <unix_infidel> but i'll check out compugeeks, thanks.
[04:06] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: no problem
[04:06] <unix_infidel> Bearcat: i could care less if they were a nasty brown.
[04:07] <unix_infidel> as long as they were cheap, and they arrived sooner than lter.
[04:07] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: energency, huh?
[04:07] <foot> Bearcat: what am I doing?
[04:07] <unix_infidel> Bearcat: no, nothing like that...just impatience.
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: you're asking ME?
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: :P
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: you saved the menu changes right?
[04:07] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[04:08] <foot> Bearcat: so now the mythtv setup?
[04:09] <Bearcat> yes. Did you turn off the sound server in the control center? It's called arts?
[04:09] <foot> nope
[04:10] <Bearcat> let's do that first. let's go to "kcontrol"
[04:10] <Bearcat> foot: in kcontrol, under "Sound adn Multimedia" you should see "sound system". Select that.
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: got it
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: disable?
[04:11] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Order from anywhere and pay for overnight shipping if you can't be patient.  That, or order sooner and don't complain about the wait time
[04:11] <Bearcat> foot: make sure that "Enable the sound system" is NOT checked and hit Apply
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[04:12] <Bearcat> foot: did the "mythfilldatabase" run correctly?
[04:14] <foot> Bearcat: ok kitty, sorry Mr. Kitty, we left the page how to a bit ago and I am following your distructions now, since that page is no longer valid. no
[04:14] <Bearcat> foot: the page is still valid
[04:14] <Bearcat> so you got the ivtv drivers all loaded?
[04:15] <foot> Bearcat: now you tell me :P
[04:15] <Bearcat> i just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do
[04:15] <Bearcat> foot: i just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do
[04:15] <Bearcat> foot: have you rebooted since instaling the ivtv drivers?
[04:16] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[04:16] <Bearcat> foot: awesome!
[04:16] <foot> Bearcat: and I ran mythtv-install from the kmenu. nothing aparent happend
[04:16] <Bearcat> foot: now run "mythfilldatabase" it may complain about authorization, but ignore that
[04:17] <Bearcat> foot: oh..wait
[04:17] <Bearcat> foot: wait wait
[04:17] <obf213> ive asked this a few times but is there any c programmer that just works the same way windows c program builders work
[04:18] <foot> Bearcat:  database error,   password
[04:18] <Bearcat> foot: that's ok
[04:18] <foot> Bearcat: I was strutting earlierer too
[04:19] <foot> Bearcat: *waiting*
[04:19] <Bearcat> foot: before we getinto any of the mythtv apps, you should know that hitting "esc" will back you up one level. Hitting it repetedly will get you out of the app
[04:19] <foot> ok
[04:19] <foot> like the old commadore 64
[04:20] <foot> or was it the TI 99/4a?
[04:21] <Bearcat> foot: right
[04:21] <Bearcat> foot: what happends when you do "mythtv-setup" in the terminal?
[04:22] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Finished!
[04:25] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: and installed libxine-extracodecs perfectly!  Thanks man!  Now to try Amarok
[04:27] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Awesome.  Glad to hear it
[04:27] <wind> hey everyone
[04:28] <wind> hey Hawkwind, is there a package that allows you to manage your finances?
[04:28] <wind> like credit card bills, house bills, etc
[04:28] <Hawkwind> wind: I'm sure there is, maybe gnucash ?
[04:29] <robotgeek> kmymoney2!
[04:29] <wind> hm
[04:30] <robotgeek> even does qif imports well. (once you get past the date template)
[04:30] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: You are so great!  Oh man I am streaming my favorite radio right now and it's thanks to you...without these streams I don't know if I could of lasted for long!  (I'm so odd)
[04:32] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Hah.  I know all about streams.  I have my own that plays 24/7 that plays anything from country music, alternative, 80's, old-school rap, and other stuff
[04:32] <visik7> anyone know where I can find docs on how to get installation via ubiquity unattended ?
[04:34] <nabz_> how can u change your kde theme after installing one?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> nabz_: You can do it via kcontrol and Look & Feel
[04:34] <nabz_> kcontrol? lol, soz im kinda new to this
[04:35] <nabz_> ah nvm
[04:35] <nabz_> there is no look & feel :s
[04:36] <nabz_> nvm
[04:36] <wind> hey Hawkwind, where is gnucash after i do apt-get install
[04:36] <nabz_> lol
[04:37] <Hawkwind> nabz_: Just type 'kcontrol' into a terminal, then look around
[04:37] <Hawkwind> wind: Type: 'gnucash' from a terminal.  I don't use KDE so I don't know how the menus are setup
[04:37] <wind> k
[04:37] <wind> thanks
[04:38] <robotgeek> wind: if you use kde, i would recommend kmymoney
[04:38] <wind> oh alright
[04:38] <wind> wait, what's the diff?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Though gnucash works perfectly fine in KDE
[04:38] <soulrider_> otaku-san: hes allways answering questions
[04:38] <Hawkwind> wind: Run them both, see what *you* like, not what others like
[04:39] <wind> hm well what i used to use (with windows) is uh... notepad
[04:39] <robotgeek> wind: gnucash is written for gnome, kmymoney is written for kde. i've used both, i found kmymoney to work very nicely.
[04:39] <wind> so either i'm guessing is going to work fine
[04:39] <jaen> hi, somebodi want to help me to listen my dvd's in kubuntu, i can see them with kafeine but i can't hear anything
[04:39] <wind> i'll try both
[04:39] <Eeyore> ! dvd
[04:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:39] <robotgeek> i dont know what version of gnucash is in the repositories, the older one was gtk 1.0 == ugly
[04:39] <Hawkwind> But just because it's a gnome app doesn't mean it doesn't work in KDE.  And of course vice-versa
[04:39] <unix_infidel> wind: there are much better accounting apps for windows.  But honestly, if you use notepad gnucash or the kde equiv would work just fine.
[04:40] <jaen> thank ubotu
[04:40] <unix_infidel> your CPA might find some formats easier to play with than others though.  Just make sure the stuff is readable.
[04:40] <otaku-san> soulrider_: sorry for late reply!  Hehe yes I can see that!
[04:41] <archangel_> whatsup whatsup!!
[04:41] <archangel_> Hey what program do  you use with the ipod?
[04:41] <wind> wow, gnucash just opened up a big click-down list of stuff... :/
[04:42] <wind> lets see how kmymoney works out
[04:42] <visik7> bug 1
[04:42] <archangel_> anyone here use their ipod with linux?
[04:43] <robotgeek> archangel_: i suppose amarok manages it, i dont have an ipod though
[04:43] <archangel_> I'll try it
[04:43] <archangel_> thanx bro
[04:43] <Hawkwind> archangel_: gtkpod is one of if not the best appt o use
[04:44] <Hawkwind> s/appt o/app to
[04:44] <archangel_> I'll try it
[04:44] <archangel_> thanks
[04:45] <Eeyore> ! gtkpod
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about gtkpod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:45] <Hawkwind> !info gtkpod
[04:45] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[04:46] <wind> k.. i'm not exactly sure what half of this stuff means
[04:47] <wind> i just want to be able to put my cc spending limit and balance on here
[04:47] <wind> then when i make a payment or buy something i just add it as i go
[04:47] <robotgeek> wind: sure, you can do that.
[04:47] <wind> how
[04:48] <robotgeek> wind: have you looked at the handbook?
[04:49] <wind> getting on it
[04:52] <robotgeek> howdy seth
[04:52] <seth> heya robotgeek, I haven't seen you around in a while
[04:52] <robotgeek> seth: jump into kofftopic
[04:53] <Bearcat> how does one restart a service in kubuntu (my distro is diffrerent)
[04:53] <dragon-1> Hello
[04:54] <robotgeek> Bearcat: usually /etc/init.d/service restart
[04:54] <robotgeek> restart, err
[04:54] <dragon-1> Any one here Proficeint with Lap top touch pads an Kubuntu?  I'm trying to figure out how to disable the touch pad click feature.
[04:54] <Bearcat> thank
[04:54] <robotgeek> dragon-1: what hardware?
[04:55] <dragon-1> Compaq Prosario?  or do you need to touch pad information?
[04:55] <robotgeek> no, i know how to do it on a mac, so sorry
[04:55] <dragon-1> Crapola
[04:56] <dragon-1> How different can it realy be?  Were using the same software?
[04:56] <dragon-1> Maybe you'll be able to point me in the right direction and I can figure from there.
[04:57] <dragon-1> Is it a built in Kubuntu feature, or is it entirely hardware related?
[04:57] <Bearcat> foot: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restary
[04:57] <lozzzi> hi! how do I use locate to search only within some directories??
[04:58] <robotgeek> dragon-1: its a different mac software called pbbuttonsd, (powerbook buttons deamon)
[04:58] <dragon-1> Was that directed to me Bercat?
[04:58] <Bearcat> dragonkh: nope
[04:59] <dragon-1> Was this a software that you acquired from MAC, or a Linux software resource?
[04:59] <foot> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[05:00] <Bearcat> foot: got it
[05:00] <lozzzi> is there any way to search files but only within a directory? I'm using <locate -d /home/etc nameoffile> but not working
[05:01] <Bearcat> foot: su mythtv
[05:01] <Kr4t05> I can mount an ISO disk image, right?
[05:01] <robotgeek> Kr4t05: sure
[05:01] <Hawkwind> lozzzi: Look into using find instead
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[05:02] <robotgeek> Kr4t05: you might need a -loop or something
[05:02] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: what about a .dmg?
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Never dealt with a .dmg, but you could try it
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: You can mount an .img file the same
[05:03] <Kr4t05> ok
[05:04] <lozzzi> Hawkwind: do you mean <find /home/etc nameofArchive>?
[05:05] <Bearcat> foot: you did the section where it told you to "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin right?
[05:06] <xwolf--> please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here)
[05:06] <Hawkwind> lozzzi: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=383.0  Read that post on my forum.  Also, 'man find' for more details on how it works
[05:07] <lozzzi> ok
[05:08] <foot> Bearcat: I dont have that on the page I have been following  http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[05:09] <Bearcat> foot: it's in Step two- install apache. Did you do that section
[05:10] <wind> how do i put a total spending limit in institutions (for a cc) in kmymoney
[05:10] <foot> yes, and it went smothly
[05:10] <foot> Bearcat: yes, and it went smoothly
[05:11] <Bearcat> so when you're in a web browser adn you type in "localhost" for an address what do you get?
[05:11] <foot> Bearcat: did the password and everything
[05:12] <Bearcat> foot: was the password that you entered for the mythtv user's connection to the database the same as the password you made for the user?
[05:13] <Bearcat> foot: i know that's confusng
[05:13] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20344
[05:13] <foot> Bearcat: almost but not quite, I think
[05:14] <foot> Bearcat: btw can I turn my sound back on?
[05:14] <Bearcat> in the mythtv-setup when it is asking you for a password for the database, it means the password that you gave when you were setting up the database, not the one for the user
[05:15] <Bearcat> foot: you still have sound, it's just not through the soudn server. You do not' want the sound server on anyway. Arts is a bad program that has been unmaintained for years.
[05:15] <soulrider_> Hawkwind: linuxfordummies.org is your forum?
[05:15] <foot> Bearcat: ok, so do the setup again
[05:16] <xwolf--> please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here). i need to resize the partition before reinstalling kubuntu dapper. i`m in the livecd now
[05:16] <Bearcat> foot: yeah. Do you remember what the password was?
[05:17] <soulrider_> xwolf--: you should try resotring the grub first
[05:17] <soulrider_> thats what i would do
[05:17] <soulrider_> and then see if you can boot
[05:17] <soulrider_> can you see the partitions using hte liveCD?
[05:17] <foot> Bearcat:  dont you???????  ;P}
[05:17] <Bearcat> O.o
[05:17] <Hawkwind> soulrider_: Yes it is
[05:18] <foot> *ducks*
[05:18] <xwolf--> soulrider_ i can mount the partition windows is on, but can`t mount the rest of the hard disk
[05:18] <soulrider_> cool, im gonna reg :)
[05:19] <foot> Bearcat: I do not however remember how to get to the setup.
[05:19] <wind> i don't think i'm using this kmymoney thing right
[05:19] <djk_> xwolf--: try fsck (read the manpage) to repair the grub/linux partition/s, repair grub if needed, resize partitions with gparted..
[05:19] <Bearcat> foot: "mythtv-setup"
[05:19] <Bearcat> foot: i think proudfoot is trying to show off to you :)
[05:19] <soulrider_> i dont know much about partitons, but maybe it got fooked
[05:20] <soulrider_> what -> I <- would try would be restoring the grub
[05:20] <soulrider_> and if that doesnt work
[05:20] <soulrider_> maybe try to copy the contents of hte linux partition from windows onto another drive
[05:20] <foot> Bearcat: AHH pride.     I remember that but from lovely hermes or where?
[05:20] <soulrider_> and reformat the partition
[05:20] <xwolf--> yes. i want to restore it, but don`t know how
[05:20] <Knightlust> question, the grub menu at bootup, is there someway i could make it graphical
[05:21] <xwolf--> soulrider_ that`s exactly what i want to do
[05:21] <soulrider_> there is a very good link in the forum
[05:21] <soulrider_> i would say
[05:21] <soulrider_> go to win
[05:21] <soulrider_> and try to backup all the kubuntu drive files
[05:21] <Knightlust> e.g. Fedora or Mandriva (which uses LiLo)
[05:21] <xwolf--> i cant boot to win as grub is `corrupted`
[05:21] <soulrider_> then try to restore grub
[05:21] <djk_> Knightlust: by graphical you mean a shiny 4-color background?
[05:21] <soulrider_> if it foesnt work, start over
[05:21] <soulrider_> oh
[05:21] <soulrider_> :/
[05:21] <soulrider_> youre right...
[05:21] <xwolf--> soulrider_ how do i override grub?
[05:22] <soulrider_> let me get you the link
[05:22] <Knightlust> no, not color, but kinda like a wallpaper
[05:22] <djk_> xwolf--: did you even read what i said?
[05:22] <Knightlust> i've been trying to emulate fedora
[05:22] <xwolf--> soulrider_  delete it, whatever, just want it out, and get the windows bootloader working
[05:22] <Knightlust> but failed, don't know how, I already consulted google and some forums
[05:22] <djk_> Knightlust: that's pretty much what i meant..search for bootsplash /grubsplash
[05:22] <foot> Bearcat: exit
[05:23] <xwolf--> djk_: i did, but i think it wont work because partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one, before it crashed
[05:23] <Knightlust> hmmm, ok
[05:23] <djk_> Knightlust: btw, 14 colours, typo ^^
[05:24] <djk_> xwolf--: let's see, you ask for help, you get help, you don't try, you don't think it will work, .....
[05:24] <soulrider_> i think that you wont be able to get into win unless you restore it
[05:24] <soulrider_> but i may be wrong
[05:24] <soulrider_> !grub
[05:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:24] <xwolf--> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fsck /dev/hda5
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hda5
[05:24] <soulrider_> follow the first link
[05:24] <fidel> argghh...so i made an iso of a video dvd using mkisofs, then tried to burn in w/ k3b. it works in my desktop, it works in my laptop, but it won't work in my dvd player. any ideas? the files are vobs
[05:25] <djk_> Knightlust: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[05:25] <Knightlust> hey, hey, thanks djk_
[05:25] <djk_> Knightlust: you're welcome
[05:26] <Knightlust> my thanks djk_, very helpful
[05:26] <xwolf--> soulrider_: i was reading that before i came here. i'm sorry but i couldnt find what i need there
[05:27] <fidel> if it matters, i'm currently using vobcopy to make a copy on my hdd and then try k3b again.
[05:29] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20345
[05:30] <djk_> xwolf--: fsck doesn't fix ntfs. fsck is for unix filesystems
[05:30] <xwolf--> "partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one. between these two events, it crashed"
[05:31] <xwolf--> i'll put this hard disk as a slave in another computer and see what i can save
[05:32] <djk_> idiot..
[05:33] <Hawkwind> djk_: Hah
[05:34] <fidel> so I'm SOL on a little help w/ the dvd thing?
[05:35] <fidel> and yes, I read the forums. still doesn't seem to want to work.
[05:35] <djk_> Hawkwind: honestly, what did he come here for? If he wanted to repair the ntfs, he'd have had to use chkdsk
[05:37] <Hawkwind> djk_: Not sure myself.  I don't do anything Windows related, so I wasn't about to get into that conversation :)
[05:39] <djk_> Hawkwind: If he had read the fsck manpage, he'd have had at least a chance...
[05:40] <djk_> fidel: i haven't authored a video-dvd yet, did you double-check if you used the correct settings in mkisofs +k3b ?
[05:40] <fidel> took it right out of the forums
[05:40] <djk_> fidel: finalized it?
[05:40] <fidel> yep
[05:40] <djk_> dvdplayer should support it?
[05:41] <wind> it seems that kmymoney2 is a bit easier to use then gnucash, thanks though Hawkwind
[05:41] <fidel> it runs the original dvd
[05:41] <fidel> which is what i copied using mkisofs
[05:41] <Agios> k9copy, dvdshrink?
[05:41] <Agios> why reinvent the wheel
[05:42] <ShadowMan> anyone here can help me
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i am a completly newbie
[05:42] <fidel> cuz i don't have a repos with k9copy
[05:42] <djk_> fidel: well, my dvdplayer doesn't like some dvd-media..
[05:42] <Healot> !ask > ShadowMan
[05:42] <fidel> dvd-r?
[05:42] <djk_> fidel: yes
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i want to run a bashscript to convert redhat cds into a single dvd
[05:42] <dragon-1> Hello, Is anyone hear know how to disable the "tap to click" feature on PC Laptop touchpads, running Linux.  If it matters I am running a Compaq Presario.
[05:42] <Dark_Oppressor> is there a program to run that will help me to configure xorg.conf properly?
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i have found the bashscript called makedvd.sh
[05:42] <ShadowMan> but i dont kno whow to use it
[05:43] <wind> how do i force close something?
[05:43] <Healot> Dark_Oppressor, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:43] <djk_> wind: kill <PID> in a terminal
[05:43] <wind> pid?
[05:43] <djk_> the process number..
[05:43] <Healot> the output you get from "ps"
[05:44] <Bearcat> ok, folks foot and i need a little help. Has anyone in here ever setup mythtv on kubuntu?
[05:44] <wind> um
[05:44] <ShadowMan> noone has the answer to my question :(
[05:44] <wind> what if it's a program?
[05:44] <Agios> killall -9 <program>
[05:45] <Dark_Oppressor> Healot: thanks
[05:45] <Healot> ShadowMan, technically, we don't support such script, or we may not have knowledge about such script...
[05:45] <wind> thankie
[05:45] <foot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20347
[05:45] <ShadowMan> but you know how to run ANY .sh scriipt ?
[05:45] <Healot> YES, ShadowMan
[05:45] <Healot> sh filename.sh
[05:45] <ShadowMan> can i have  alist of commands fo rthat :P
[05:45] <ShadowMan> that will directly RUN ? or some precompilation stuffs
[05:46] <Healot> it's script, no compilation needed
[05:46] <ShadowMan> ohhhh
[05:46] <ShadowMan> k, thanks :)
[05:46] <Healot> it's interpreted by the shell
[05:46] <ShadowMan> nice
[05:46] <ShadowMan> going back to linux and trying it :P
[05:46] <ShadowMan> ill brb if i cant seem to solve it :P
[05:46] <ShadowMan> seems simple
[05:46] <ShadowMan> thanks bro
[05:47] <chanson> hello everyone .. how to find more channels ?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: /msg chanserv list *search-term-here*
[05:47] <Bearcat> when doign a mythtv-set up, foot sees "Database not open while trying to load setting: Language
[05:47] <Bearcat>  2006-08-11 21:27:22.100 Unable to connect to database!
[05:47] <Bearcat>  2006-08-11 21:27:22.101 Driver error was [1/1045] :"
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: If you're using Xchat, then Windows -> Channel List
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: Or you can also just type: /list   but that's pretty nasty as it puts it into your IRC client directly
[05:48] <djk_> chanson: F5 in konversation
[05:48] <chanson> thanks !!!
[05:48] <beeli> hey!
[05:48] <chanson> i'm using Xwindow
[05:49] <earthsound> i am installing kubuntu on a new HD and I'd like to create an NTFS partition, but it isn't an option in the partition utility. is there a utility on the alternate install CD that can do this?
[05:49] <chanson> is it can be use at Commandline Mode ?
[05:49] <maltaethiron> guys, if i search in synaptic, should i be able to find .mpg, .wmv, and .avi plugins for kaffeine?
[05:50] <Healot> earthsound, the partitioner doesn't support creating NTFS partition, try fdisk instead, man fdisk for more options
[05:50] <farous> maltaethiron: nope.
[05:50] <farous> !restricted formats > maltaethiron
[05:50] <farous> read ubotu pm maltaethiron
[05:50] <farous> will tell you how to play those formats
[05:50] <maltaethiron> ty farous
[05:50] <Healot> the partitioner on the alternate CD can resize/delete ntfs partitions though, earthsound
[05:51] <farous> :)
[05:51] <earthsound> Healot: man isn't in the alt. install CD :(
[05:51] <wind> would it be wise to put my online banking info into kmymoney
[05:51] <Healot> yeah
[05:51] <Healot> use the online man, it's like everywhere on the net, try the one on Debian's site
[05:51] <earthsound> Healot: ah, perhaps I'll format it in winblows and then resize during the install...
[05:51] <wind> ?
[05:51] <djk_> earthsound: gparted can create NTFS..
[05:52] <Healot> it's Windows for Bill's sake
[05:52] <earthsound> which partition utility comes with the alt. install CD?
[05:52] <Healot> parted, yes and fdisk too...
[05:52] <farous> wind: i never put import infor on any pc
[05:52] <Hawkwind> wind: All depends on how secure your system is or how safe you feel the info is on your system
[05:52] <wind> k
[05:52] <djk_> earthsound: why would you have to resize after you created the ntfs? why not create it at the size you want right away and leave the rest alone?
[05:52] <wind> nevermind then
[05:52] <earthsound> djk_: good point
[05:53] <Healot> but the install CD doesn;t have parted... maybe you can get parted bootable CD from parted's sourceforge site
[05:53] <Nimwei> Is there a package available I can get to install a kubuntu theme? My KDM install didn't include any.
[05:53] <wind> anyway i think i got it all setup
[05:53] <wind> <3
[05:53] <nabz> hey. whats the move command on terminal?
[05:53] <djk_> gparted has a Live-CD
[05:53] <Nimwei> nabz - mv
[05:53] <djk_> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[05:53] <earthsound> yes, the install cd does have parted...I've never used it, but it doesn't appear to hard to understand
[05:53] <nabz> ty
[05:53] <Bearcat> foot: mysql --user=root --password
[05:54] <foot> foot: mysql --user=root --password
[05:54] <earthsound> parted version <IP_ADDRESS> is on the alt. install CD
[05:54] <earthsound> bbiab
[05:54] <Bearcat> foot: then type in lovey's assword
[05:55] <Bearcat> foot: er...password, not assword. If lovey has an "assword" i don't wnat to know.
[05:56] <djk_> parted doesn't support anything..why is it being used?
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> what does the standard Live CD have on it? qparted?
[05:56] <beeli> Hey!
[05:57] <beeli> You are sink!
[05:57] <Healot> Fur Kubuntu, it's qtparted
[05:57] <beeli> I feel goood for you, this site is really rapid!
[05:57] <earthsound> djk_: you are right...it doesn't seem to like the unformated 250GB SATA HD :(
[05:57] <Healot> Fur ubuntu it's Gparted
[05:57] <beeli> i mean channel
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> thx Healot
[05:57] <nabz> hey, i got gimp installed but i cant find it under the graphics bit on the menu :S any ideas?
[05:57] <earthsound> Healot: but I have the kubuntu install CD
[05:58] <earthsound> and gparted isn't on it
[05:58] <Sir_Brizz> qtparted
[05:58] <wind> if i put something in tmp how long does it take to delete itself
[05:58] <wind> or do i have to delete it myself?
[05:58] <Healot> yes, the desktop installer, or the alternate installed, btw, qtparted should be in it, earthsound
[05:58] <Healot> wind, everytime you restart the PC, /tmp will be cleared automagically
[05:59] <djk_> Healot: why does kubuntu use qtparted, it's crap compared to gparted
[05:59] <earthsound> Healot: there are no programs beginning with q on the alternate install CD (v 6.06.1)
[05:59] <Healot> it's the same thing with different UI toolkit, duh
[05:59] <wind> k coo
[06:00] <Healot> the mother back-end is parted << the same thing
[06:01] <djk_> Healot: qtparted hasn't been developed in almost 2 years.
[06:01] <djk_> Healot: why's the feature list on the gnu parted site then completely different compared to gparted?
[06:02] <djk_> Healot: and the gnu parted site has just been updated recently..
[06:02] <Healot> ask the qtparted coders?
[06:03] <tk> anyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it?
[06:04] <djk_> Healot: btw, parted isn't the backend
[06:04] <Healot> it is the backend
[06:04] <Healot> hence, (qt)/(g)parted
[06:05] <djk_> that's just the name
[06:05] <earthsound> gonna fire up knoppix and see what havoc I can wreak
[06:05] <djk_> the backend is the actual fs-progs, ie e2fsprogs
[06:05] <earthsound> I think I have an old knoppix 4.02 around somewhere...
[06:05] <pappua> need help with ubunti sound
[06:07] <crimsun> pappua: what sort of help?
[06:07] <pappua> i am running into this issue flash is not able to output any sound.  please advise
[06:08] <farous> pappua: are you running another program that is using your sound card
[06:08] <earthsound> Healot: the kubuntu alt install CD doesn't have qtparted, but knoppix does :D
[06:08] <pappua> not at the same time
[06:08] <farous> pappua: running form ? which browser
[06:08] <djk_> btw, does 6.06 support reiser4?
[06:09] <pappua> firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:09] <farous> pappua: close firefox
[06:09] <Bearcat> djk_: is it stable enough to use?
[06:09] <crimsun> pappua: purportedly installing esound-clients is sufficient
[06:09] <farous> then close all programs using the sound card
[06:09] <djk_> Bearcat: afaik, yes
[06:10] <earthsound> 5GB should be enough for a root partition for kubuntu, yes?
[06:10] <nabz> yeh
[06:10] <Bearcat> djk_: is performance better over 3?
[06:10] <nabz> i only got 4gb =]
[06:10] <pappua> ok installing
[06:10] <farous> crimsun: i thought the only way around it is through the wrapper alsa-oss
[06:11] <crimsun> farous: no, that's the way that I recommend doing it, but there are a few ways
[06:11] <pappua> is there any thing i should do after installing esound-clients
[06:11] <djk_> Bearcat: according to what I've read it's okay
[06:11] <crimsun> pappua: restart Firefox and test a Flash applet
[06:11] <farous> crimsun: ok thanx :)
[06:15] <pappua> not helping
[06:15] <pappua> i tried to open the cd( cd has software which requires flash) that is not working
[06:16] <pappua> read me says that the SW requires Flash <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:16] <farous> pappua: do you have flash installed
[06:16] <farous> it is not installed by default
[06:17] <pappua> yes I have flash installed
[06:17] <pappua> i downloaded from the website and I had installed in .mozilla/plugins directory
[06:17] <pappua> i can see the video but no sound
[06:18] <farous> pappua: lsof /dev/dsp
[06:19] <pappua> lsof /dev/dsp o/p is nothing
[06:19] <pappua> no putput on running lsof /dev/dsp
[06:21] <farous> pappua: did you close all firefox instances after installing the package crimsun told you about
[06:22] <pappua> yes I closed all fire fox instances.  i will do it again to confirm
[06:22] <farous> pappua: if nothing using your sound i do not know why flash won't work
[06:22] <farous> pappua: lsof /dev/snd/
[06:23] <earthsound> I partitioned the new SATA HD w/ qpparted. during the installation of kubuntu, I wanted to change the mount points of each partition, but it failed
[06:23] <pappua> yes i closed firefox again and it is not working still  lsof /dev/snd/ output is nothing
[06:24] <farous> pappua: you can test sound with flash on a net site just to make sure
[06:24] <farous> it might b that what you view is just not comp
[06:24] <earthsound> nm...there must be a bug in this text mode partition utility. it said that it failed, but it changed the mount points anyway :|
[06:25] <pappua> flash on the net works
[06:25] <farous> ah ok
[06:25] <farous> so it might be a new flash that you need. flash for linux is a little bit old
[06:26] <pappua> flash i have is Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63
[06:26] <djk_> iirc the latest macromedia flash is 9..and macromedia-linux-flash is 7
[06:26] <pappua> about:plugins confirmed this
[06:26] <earthsound> apparently the installer is in a loop, if I try to select "Install the base system" it takes me to "Partition disks"
[06:28] <pappua> i know for sure there is no issue with CD because it works great on WINDOZE
[06:28] <farous> pappua: ran out of ideas. perhaps others can help
[06:28] <nalpha> guys can i talk with other user in my network with microphone? what software i should use???
[06:28] <earthsound> when I try to select either undo changes to partitions or finish partitioning... it just refreshes the screen
[06:28] <farous> nalpha: skype is quite good
[06:28] <djk_> farous: skype is crap
[06:28] <farous> djk_: what are the alter?
[06:29] <djk_> farous: skype support for linux is the worst i've seen so far
[06:29] <pappua> ok thanks for helping.  is there any one else who can help
[06:29] <farous> djk_: the beta ver support alsa
[06:30] <pappua>  the beta ver support alsa.  I am not sure what it means
[06:30] <farous> djk_: yet again what are the alt. :)
[06:30] <farous> pappua: that you can run other programs that use the sound card without a prob
[06:32] <pappua> yes i can but with one problem.  let us say real player for the first time outpus no sound.  close it and open works great
[06:33] <nalpha> how to install it??? (skype)
[06:33] <farous> !skype > nalpha
[06:36] <pappua> any ideas
[06:37] <djk_> farous: for a lan i'd probably use teamspeak..for other uses i'd have to search a bit, there are better oss alternatives
[06:37] <farous> pappua: try asking in ubuntu channel
[06:37] <farous> djk_: i found qnext which is java based
[06:37] <farous> yet not a lot are willing to try it
[06:38] <farous> it support audio video. and is platform independent
[06:38] <pappua> ok thanks
[06:38] <farous> again lot of window users are just more comf with skype :(
[06:39] <Bearcat> does anyone happen to know if i can call someone on skype with an opensip client?
[06:39] <Bearcat> i realise skype is a proprietary sip
[06:40] <farous> djk_: i think our diff in view is cause you are most prob admin and i am just a regular user :)
[06:42] <djk_> farous: i'm not an admin. http://www.openwengo.org/ is a better alternative
[06:42] <farous> djk_: thanx will have a look at it :)
[06:44] <djk_> farous: you're welcome
[06:44] <farous> djk_: this is open source right. for i went to a page similar name but was closed source
[06:45] <farous> yah will def switch am always for opensource thanx again
[06:47] <djk_> yea openwengo is oss. :)
[06:49] <bioticpro> is the new 6.06 installer cd udated with kde 3.5.3?
[06:49] <bioticpro> updated
[07:03] <foot> Bearcat: thank for the help tonight. I will talk to you tomorrow night, if your on. I am going to bed
[07:13] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got twinview setup, but now the panel in KDE only hides when i place the cursor on the sides of the screen, as opposed to hiding whenever the cursor is taken off the panel
[07:13] <Dark_Oppressor> is there a way to fix this?
[07:15] <Cornellius> #kubuntu
[07:15] <Cornellius> err
[07:15] <Cornellius> Wrong window
[07:20] <tk> anyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it? Ii cant get the Simple XOSD to work for some reason despite loading what I thought it needed Python wise
[07:48] <c0rrupt> heello.. i think i broke my nvidia drivers need some help
[07:48] <c0rrupt> when i try to start normally..
[07:49] <c0rrupt> the x server wont start
[07:49] <c0rrupt> so i start in safe mode.. and when i try to startx its saying wrong version of the nvidia kernel module
[07:49] <c0rrupt> so basically i want to completly remove all traces of the module
[07:49] <c0rrupt> and reinstall
[07:49] <c0rrupt> but i dont know how
[07:50] <c0rrupt> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe
[07:50] <c0rrupt> and /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and some others
[07:52] <gekko`> c0rrupt: did you install the nvidia drivers through apt-get?
[07:53] <c0rrupt> um
[07:53] <c0rrupt> i sorta did
[07:53] <c0rrupt> ok the first thing i did
[07:53] <c0rrupt> was install it from the nvidia .run file
[07:53] <c0rrupt> and it seemed to work perfectly
[07:53] <c0rrupt> but i rebooted, and it wouldnt boot normally
[07:53] <bioticpro> Hello, I am tryin to use a crt TV as a monitor temporarily, what are the best kde font settings and xorg settings for this?
[07:54] <c0rrupt> so i tried to install it with apt-get install nvidia-glx and stuff
[07:54] <gekko`> c0rrupt: there's a nvidia package in the ubuntu repository which should be prefered
[07:54] <c0rrupt> which is what im on now
[07:54] <c0rrupt> ya
[07:54] <c0rrupt> so my question is
[07:54] <c0rrupt> can i remove the module that..
[07:54] <c0rrupt> the .run installed
[07:54] <c0rrupt> b/c i dont see a way of uninstalling it
[07:54] <randres1982> nadie habla spnanish
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: normally there will be an uninstall script
[07:55] <c0rrupt> i guess this isnt normal then huh?
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: but if there is not you have to remove them man
[07:55] <gekko`> randres1982: #ubuntu-es
[07:55] <c0rrupt> ya.. whats t3h command
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: that is what you pay when you do nto use deb
[07:55] <randres1982> alguien me puede colaborar con configuracion de kubuntu
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: and by normally i ment you have to search for it
[07:56] <c0rrupt> just delete the modules?
[07:56] <c0rrupt> like /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe
[07:56] <farous> c0rrupt: search first for the modules package you installed for nividia
[07:57] <c0rrupt> ..?
[07:57] <farous> c0rrupt: remove it and use an open source driver
[07:57] <c0rrupt> oh
[07:57] <farous> then you can remove man
[07:57] <c0rrupt> er.
[07:57] <c0rrupt> lost me
[07:57] <randres1982> good nihg
[07:57] <randres1982> bye
[07:57] <farous> c0rrupt: if you removed manually files the apt have installed you risk corrupting your package manager
[07:57] <c0rrupt> so
[07:58] <c0rrupt> apt-get remove nividia-glx
[07:58] <randres1982> not ingles
[07:58] <c0rrupt> nvidia*
[07:59] <c0rrupt> alright..
[07:59] <c0rrupt> thats removed
[07:59] <c0rrupt> what else o.0
[07:59] <farous> search for the modules you suspect the script installed
[07:59] <c0rrupt> how do i remove them
[07:59] <c0rrupt> with modprobe?
[07:59] <farous> and hope for the best for it might have diverted some packages
[08:00] <c0rrupt> modprobe yes or n
[08:00] <c0rrupt> o
[08:01] <farous> c0rrupt: you got the idea remove and reinstall. sorry got to go have bad cold here
[08:01] <c0rrupt> modprobE!?
[08:01] <farous> c0rrupt: you have to phyically remove the files for they might be loaded later
[08:01] <c0rrupt> k thanks
[08:01] <c0rrupt> get betta s00n
[08:01] <bioticpro> night
[08:02] <farous> night here too
[08:07] <patrick_> Hey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.
[08:08] <patrick_> I just installed the i686 because i thought it was easier to find packages
[08:08] <patrick_> #linux
[08:09] <superman007> Can anyone help with my wireless? I cant seem to get it to work
[08:11] <superman007> 0000:06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:11] <link_36p> Hey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.
[08:11] <superman007> thats what I get rrom lspci
[08:12] <superman007> from*
[08:12] <superman007> link_36p, I'm sure its not too big, if any
[08:14] <link_36p> oh
[08:17] <tk> link_36p: I didnt notice a big difference... but others say they do
[08:17] <tk> i went back to 32bit for the ease of using flash and other non 64bit software
[08:52] <zered> Hi everybody
[08:53] <zered> I've just changed my mandriva for a kubuntu. I guess my problems came from my home rights
[08:53] <zered> I have no formatted my /home
[08:53] <zered> do you think it's the beginning of the solution ?
[08:54] <SpAwN> has anyone used truecrypt?...im trying to find out if i can take a partion im not curently using(its like 5 gigs) and somehow make it all encrytped and if i add files to it..they to will be encrytped...
[09:08] <bigbill52a> i have used true crypt in windows...
[09:20] <superman007> How come there are only 2.4 kernels in my repos?
[09:21] <superman007> nvm I see
[09:37] <rikioh> i cant figure out why but nothing will save to my pc from the internet
[09:37] <rikioh> it says it downloads and stores
[09:37] <rikioh> but its not there
[09:37] <rikioh> and ive even tried downloading and using the open option isntead of save and when its done it dont open
[09:43] <Bbetto> Hi
[09:43] <Bbetto> how can i view the cd icon in the desk?
[09:46] <Philip5> Bbetto: yes
[09:46] <wweasel> Hello. I'm here not regarding KDE persay, but a KDE App, and the people in #ubuntu told me it's more likely someone here could help. I use regular Ubuntu with KMess for MSN and Swiftfox as a browser.  Swiftfox is set to my default browser, but KMess still launches Firefox. Help appreciated.
[09:46] <Philip5> it will autoshow when a cd is mounted
[09:47] <Bbetto> i put a cd inside the pc, buy i can't see the icon in the desk
[09:47] <Bbetto> why?
[09:47] <bioticpro> how do I play video files (avi) over samba share?  (video is one windows machine, want to play it with  kaffeine)
[09:49] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:49] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:49] <Healot> !samba
[09:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:50] <wweasel> Does anyone here know how KMess decides what browser to launch
[09:50] <bioticpro> I have all the codecs, and I have samba installed, as well as samba-xine
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: I get the following errors from kaffeine:
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: No plugin found to handle this resource
[09:51] <Healot> configured the samba share yet?
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: yes, I can see the movies, but the don't play
[09:52] <bioticpro> xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[09:52] <Healot> btw media format?
[09:52] <bioticpro> xine: found input plugin : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient
[09:52] <bioticpro> Healot: the movie is *.avi
[09:53] <glen_> bioticpro: try kmplayer maybe?
[09:54] <Healot> what's the codec used?
[09:54] <Healot> OpenAVI can use any codecs nowadays
[09:54] <bioticpro> Healot: xine: found demuxer plugin: AVI/RIFF demux plugin
[09:54] <Healot> ms-avi?
[09:55] <Healot> wmv/asf avi maybe
[09:56] <bioticpro> I get same errors playing mpgs
[09:56] <intelikey> without alsatools how would one save sound settings ?
[09:56] <bioticpro> these videos play fine if I copy them over to my linux HD
[09:56] <bioticpro> intelikey: kamix
[09:57] <intelikey> without alsatools how would one save sound settings ?
[09:57] <intelikey> i think kmix uses alsactl  no?
[09:57] <bioticpro> intelikey: kamix, not kmix
[09:58] <intelikey> E: Couldn't find package kamix
[09:58] <bioticpro> hmm, maybe in universe/multiverse?
[09:59] <intelikey> maybe not
[09:59] <intelikey> !info kamix
[09:59] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in dapper
[10:00] <intelikey> !info kamix breezy
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in breezy
[10:00] <bioticpro> hmmm, well, thats lame
[10:00] <bioticpro> Im using PCLinuxOS at the moment :)
[10:00] <intelikey> !info kamix edgy
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in edgy
[10:00] <bioticpro> figured ubnut would have to have it
[10:01] <bioticpro> !info aumix dapper
[10:01] <ubotu> aumix: Simple text-based mixer control program. In repository universe, is extra. Version 2.8-17 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 440 kB
[10:01] <Jack1> does anyone know sth about sunychronization works with sony ericsson k800 and kontact?
[10:01] <intelikey> i have aumix installed, and use it.  but it doesn't store the settings.
[10:01] <bioticpro> intelikey: my bad, kamix is great... guess ya gotta settle for kmix
[10:09] <bioticpro> can someone please help with playing avi video from a samba share?
[10:12] <Philip5> bioticpro: add the extra codecs to xine
[10:13] <link_36p> where are kernel headers kept in ubuntu?
[10:13] <Philip5> but you can't play wmv3 files yet... as far as i know
[10:13] <bioticpro> Philip5: I have the right codecs, the movie plays fine if I play it from linux HD, doesn't play from samba location though
[10:13] <Philip5> link_36p: you fetch the headers with apt
[10:14] <Philip5> bioticpro: try to open it from location
[10:14] <Philip5> haven't tried it... maybe it need some streaming and that depends on the media format
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> link_36p: are you after build-essential ?
[10:16] <link_36p> No im installing vmware player
[10:16] <link_36p> and it says it needs to compile a kernel module and wants to know where the header directory is.
[10:17] <bioticpro> how do you mount a samba share locally?
[10:18] <intelikey> install   linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686
[10:19] <link_36p> Whats the difference between i386 and i686?
[10:24] <Healot> i686 kernels are optimized for Pentium 3 and above (the 80686s)
[10:25] <link_36p> so it doesnt matter if you have AMD?
[10:25] <Healot> i386 is compiled to run on any 80386 processor... 386 until the recent duel-core CPUs
[10:26] <Healot> the question is does it matter to your needs
[10:26] <link_36p> oh
[10:26] <Healot> if you are thinking of optimized kernel, you should use the appropriate kernel, not the generic i386 kernel
[10:27] <Healot> of course there are slight performance in using optimized kernels
[10:37] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[10:39] <Silence79> thats bettter
[10:40] <Healot> I wanna push around, and I will, and I will, I wanna take you for granted..
[10:40] <Silence79> just another spoke in the wheel
[10:40] <klerfayt> Healot: I don't notice performance drop then using i386 kernel instead of i686 on pentium m
[10:41] <Bbetto> Hi do you know a program to ripe cd's?
[10:42] <Healot> bcause P m has speedstep enabled by default... and yeah i686 kernel have speedstep, thus it slows down the cpu speed accordingly -
[10:42] <intelikey> ripperx - a GTK-based audio CD ripper/encoder
[10:42] <Bbetto> another one?
[10:43] <Silence79> so what advantages do i get by running linux?
[10:43] <Silence79> I'm a newb
[10:43] <adnan> many
[10:43] <Healot> Silence79, what kind of advantages that you want?
[10:44] <intelikey> grabcd-rip - rip and encode audio CDs - ripper
[10:44] <intelikey> grip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder
[10:44] <Silence79> just wondering what I can do with linux....for instance can I get better performance outta my PC?
[10:45] <Silence79> if so how?
[10:45] <Bbetto> thanks, what is the best in kde?
[10:45] <adnan> security, stability, easy of use, free... what kind of performance?
[10:45] <intelikey> crip - terminal-based ripper/encoder/tagger tool
[10:45] <aliasfred> Silence79: this question is not really answerable, you may want to simply try it, there are livecd to make it easy to try
[10:46] <aliasfred> not answerable as it is not specific enougth
[10:46] <Silence79> I'm using the kumuntu free live cd
[10:46] <Bbetto> crip? but isn't graphic
[10:47] <Silence79> and I realize it is a very generalized question
[10:47] <intelikey> Bbetto two things;  1. best is subjective, it's based solely on opinion and not on fact.    2, apt-cache search/show  has more information about packages than you ever want to know.
[10:47] <adnan> bye
[10:51] <aliasfred> Bbetto: k3b does it i think
[10:53] <Bbetto> in the kubuntu-es chanel all are sleep, alguien habla espaol aqui?
[10:54] <[nige] > hi all
[10:56] <kosh> Bbetto: sorry I don't speak spanish
[10:56] <Healot> Bbetto, listen to mamito, hablen ingles :)
[10:57] <[nige] > Hi all
[10:58] <[nige] > I am having a problem with my ati card and dual monitors
[10:58] <[nige] > :(
[10:58] <[nige] > !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <kosh> hello
[10:58] <kosh> I have two ati cards and 4 monitors but I don't use the binary ati driver
[10:59] <Healot> I have one ATi card but now I found out ATi no longer exist :)
[10:59] <intelikey> hmmmm did you know that you can't cat a file in irc that only has one line.....
[11:00] <Healot> I can dog a file instead :0
[11:00] <kosh> I don't think I have ever tried to cat a file in irc
[11:01] <kosh> I use a terminal program for that not irc :)
[11:01] <intelikey> /exec cat blah
[11:01] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache show $* \n' > S ;chmod 755 S
[11:01] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache search $* \n' > Q ;chmod 755 Q
[11:02] <intelikey> /exec -o cat blah   ^ outputs to the channel
[11:02] <kosh> I still don't see why I would want to do that
[11:03] <intelikey> you wouldn't     that's simple enough
[11:04] <intelikey> kill -9 -1      kills every thing that can be killed    but you wouldn't want to do that either.    i guess that means that that function is obsoleet and should be removed....
[11:04] <intelikey> or maybe not....
[11:05] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:06] <intelikey> tra bon chance
[11:06] <kosh> kill -9 -1 is for when you are on a shared server and one of your processes has just gone nuts and you need to kill it now and hte system is so lagged that getting the pid will take too long since the admin will have executed you long before that point :)
[11:07] <intelikey> kosh no that's what killall   is for
[11:07] <Healot> killall! kill all!
[11:08] <aliasfred> be carefull in thinking you are smarter that unix designer :)
[11:08] <kosh> killall takes a pid or name as an argument
[11:08] <klerfayt> Healot: where did you get that info? pentium m freq. scaling works with i383kernel also
[11:08] <intelikey> killall blah    kills blah + all blah's children    genicide for the process tree.
[11:10] <kosh> kill -9 -1   works if you don't know the name of the process which just went nuts but you know that you own it
[11:10] <kosh> I remember that was used a few times by students on the shared cs unix servers
[11:10] <kosh> it would kill the compile no matter what it was that was causing the problem
[11:11] <intelikey> oh you mean without root perms    yeah it don't do much there really.
[11:11] <kosh> root woudl not run that command
[11:11] <kosh> a user would run it
[11:11] <kosh> it makes some sense for a user
[11:12] <intelikey> root would run it   or a veriant called killall5  which only omits $PID & $PPID
[11:13] <intelikey> does every time you shut down in fact
[11:13] <aliasfred> in anycase to remove it require authorization on the kernel, and im convinced none of the kernel dev will accept those arguements :)
[11:13] <kosh> root has not reason to run it, if the box is that hosed you better reboot it
[11:14] <kosh> since you will be killing critical processes even if they are not your parent
[11:14] <intelikey> kosh  this is not M$ reboot.   sorry
[11:14] <aliasfred> hehe you guys are amazing :)
[11:14] <intelikey> critical ?    like ?
[11:15] <kosh> intelikey: if you have killed init, the logd and all the other stuff you might as well have rebooted given how much time it will take to try and get the services back up and running again
[11:16] <intelikey> init can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.
[11:16] <thomas__> my gcc-compiler seems not to work. anyways the ./configure says "checking if c-compiler (gcc ) works ...... no". I have tried removing the gcc and installing again. what can be wrong? where to look?
[11:16] <kosh> you can kill it but it will try to auto restart
[11:16] <intelikey> init can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.
[11:17] <aliasfred> thomas__: do 'gcc --version' in a terminal and see the reply
[11:18] <thomas__> it says "gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)" along with some copyright-things
[11:18] <thomas__> looks right to me
[11:18] <aliasfred> thomas__: ok so you got gcc installed and 'findable', now you have to find out why the ./configure fails to find it
[11:18] <intelikey> kosh   just for your pece of mind.   if at any time init is killed, kernel panic     no if's and's or but's about it.
[11:18] <aliasfred> but it is pretty weird
[11:19] <aliasfred> configure and gcc version were launched under the same user ?
[11:19] <aliasfred> maybe a diff in the PATH conf
[11:19] <thomas__> yes
[11:20] <thomas__> I just tried compiling a hello-world program. says it can't find stdio.h - something's pretty wrong!
[11:20] <aliasfred> oh maybe you simple dont have the libc header
[11:20] <thomas__> it doesn't seem as the configure is flawed in any way (btw, it's php5)
[11:20] <aliasfred> !build
[11:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:21] <aliasfred> look at that
[11:21] <aliasfred> if after that helloworld fails to compile, there is an issue :)
[11:21] <thomas__> I'll check it out, thanks :)
[11:26] <elvstone> hello.
[11:26] <elvstone> the link at http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php to http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ar01s01.html is a 404..
[11:27] <elvstone> who do i bug about it?
[11:27] <elvstone> also; is there any kubuntu specific release notes for 6.06.1?
[11:27] <aliasfred> see #kubuntu-devel
[11:27] <intelikey> maybe someone in #ubuntu  about the 404
[11:28] <elvstone> alright.
[11:29] <glen_> hi - where should xine-lib be installed for use by amarok?
[11:31] <intelikey> !info xine-lib
[11:31] <ubotu> Package xine-lib does not exist in dapper
[11:31] <intelikey> hmmm
[11:31] <intelikey> glen_ where got you that ?
[11:32] <Healot> it's libxine
[11:33] <intelikey> !info libxine
[11:33] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in dapper
[11:33] <intelikey> ?
[11:33] <glen_> intelikey: well, the folder's xine-lib
[11:33] <tk> !info amarok-xine-lib
[11:33] <ubotu> Package amarok-xine-lib does not exist in dapper
[11:33] <jarska> I have a problem with Installing java, Im a beginner so could u help me a bit?
[11:33] <tk> its something like that in adept
[11:34] <fdoving> !java > jarska
[11:34] <tk> i just rebooted to windows for some stuff, otherwise I'd tellya exactly
[11:34] <glen_> tk: the repo version won't play flac
[11:34] <Healot> !find libxine
[11:34] <ubotu> Found: libxinerama-dev, libxinerama1, libxinerama1-dbg, libxine-extracodecs, libxine1c2 (and 2 others)
[11:34] <intelikey> amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[11:34] <intelikey> that ^  ?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> you usually want libxine-extracodecs
[11:35] <Hobbsee> glen_: ^
[11:35] <Hobbsee> ohh...that..
[11:35] <intelikey> i'm not sure what glen_ has got or what glen_ is trying to do with it....
[11:36] <glen_> intelikey: won't play flac -:( i'm trying to install a patched xine-lib
[11:36] <thomas__> aliasfred:  thanks for the help, it seems I was missing the build-essential package
[11:36] <aliasfred> thomas__: cool :)
[11:36] <thomas__> but a very nice site to refer to. very easily understandable for beginners :)
[11:36] <tk> glen_: ohh if you are going for flac, yah it doesnt, the latest version of amarok does I believe though
[11:37] <Hobbsee> for edgy, at least
[11:37] <glen_> tk: which version?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> glen_: 1.4.2beta1
[11:37] <tk> glen_: let me reboot and see, I'm done with what I needed win for
[11:37] <glen_> i have 1.4.1
[11:38] <intelikey> _root you faker.  you're not root
[11:38] <jarska> Hey all! What have i done wrong while installing sun java, when it says that "Please free up the required disc space and try again."
[11:38] <_root> hello
[11:39] <Shan_> better?
[11:39] <intelikey> :)
[11:39] <Shan_> i had to boot in the recovery mode
[11:39] <Shan_> so I am root right now
[11:39] <Shan_> lol
[11:39] <Shan_> can someone tell me how i can add repositories to adept?
[11:39] <intelikey> oh then you are root....    don't irc as root if there is any way to keep form it.
[11:40] <Healot> can I run xchat by being Administrator hohoho?
[11:41] <BoSJo> Hi all. fairly new linux user tryuing to settle down with a distro, but wonders what the diffs. are on Ubuntu and Kubuntu? any good links to describe this?
[11:41] <intelikey> Shan_ copy that to /etc/apt  and get out of root before some script kiddy sees you.
[11:41] <Shan_> i know... but i havent used Kubuntu in ages and it wont boot normally
[11:41] <Shan_> lemme try again
[11:41] <Shan_> thanx mate
[11:41] <aliasfred> BoSJo: ubuntu run gnome desktop by default, while kubuntu run kde-desktop by default
[11:41] <intelikey> np
[11:42] <aliasfred> BoSJo: it is very simply to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, or viceversa, once you installed one
[11:42] <BoSJo> aliasfred: is that basically all the diffs. to it?
[11:42] <aliasfred> simple=simple
[11:42] <aliasfred> yes
[11:42] <Shan_> damn.. where does the file get saved?
[11:42] <harmental> hi...does anybody know wich repo should be added in kubuntu to keep R up to date?
[11:43] <intelikey> kde-desktop ?    kde==kay desktop enviornment        so  kde-desktop == kay desktop enviroment desktop  ???
[11:43] <BoSJo> aliasfred: Ok thanks. ill go for Kubuntu as a start.
[11:43] <Shan_> done
[11:43] <Shan_> brb
[11:43] <aliasfred> harmental: the ones by default are the one for that
[11:43] <jarska> hei, what should i do if konsole reports a problem like "please free up disc space and try again." while installing java?
[11:43] <aliasfred> jarska: you should add space or free space :)
[11:43] <Healot> free some space?
[11:44] <jarska> how to?
[11:44] <aliasfred> aka delete unnecessary files
[11:44] <jarska> I have free disc space
[11:44] <tk> i guess it doesnt play flac for me
[11:44] <aliasfred> or install on a larger partition
[11:44] <aliasfred> jarska: how much ?
[11:44] <jarska> i have just installed linux
[11:44] <tk> ahh wait, im not on the beta verison
[11:44] <intelikey> jarska probably install it as root
[11:44] <jarska> i do
[11:44] <intelikey> !sudo
[11:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:44] <harmental> aliasfred:  they are not updated
[11:45] <BoSJo> What is the default version number for Evolution in Ubuntu? (Dont wanne compile from cvs yet), and does it run just as well in Kubuntu (KDE)?
[11:45] <aliasfred> harmental: ?
[11:45] <glen_> tk: how should xine-lib (patched) be configured so that amarok will use it?
[11:45] <aliasfred> !info evolution
[11:45] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[11:46] <tk> glen: I thought I had it working, but I guess I dont, so I dunno
[11:46] <aliasfred> BoSJo: i dunno about it running on kde, it will run but the 'aspect' of it is unknown to me
[11:46] <glen_> tk: ./configure --prefix=?
[11:46] <BoSJo> aliasfred: thanks, now i also know the Boot in here :-)
[11:46] <niels> lo everybody
[11:46] <tk> i only have a 1 CD that I ripped with FLAC to see the  difference, and i cant play, my guess would be to reconfig amarok with a path to the newer xine
[11:47] <aliasfred> BoSJo: :)
[11:47] <harmental> aliasfred: the R version in the repos are2.2.1 from december 2005...the latest version of R is 2.3.1 from july 2006...
[11:47] <niels> can sb tell me which version of the kubuntu kernel they use? cos i first had 2.6.15-23 and it updated to 2.6.15-26 but that doesn't work... it blocks while loading...
[11:47] <glen_> tk: thanks for your suggestion
[11:47] <niels> does sb else has that same problem
[11:47] <tk> niels: I use -26,....
[11:47] <aliasfred> harmental: ah ok you have a software called R and the version packaged for ubuntu it not the last one
[11:48] <niels> tk have you got problems with that?
[11:48] <aliasfred> harmental: ok in this case you likely have to compile it yourself
[11:48] <tk> niels: nah works great
[11:48] <intelikey> niels rebuild the initramfs for the new version
[11:49] <tk> tk@electron:~$ uname -a
[11:49] <tk> Linux electron 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:49] <niels> i have that same version
[11:49] <niels> tk, do you have experience with updating kernels and deleting kernels and thing like that?
[11:49] <tk> niels
[11:49] <harmental> aliasfred: thats it...but actually my problem is that im quite a newbie...so i have the repo address: http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ but i dont know which lines should i add to my sources.list...
[11:49] <niels> yes?
[11:49] <tk> niels: I 've dont it by hand before... but I just did a full upgrade from Adept
[11:49] <tk> sorry, tapped enter on accident
[11:49] <niels> np:)
[11:49] <intelikey> sudo initramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26-386  (assumes 386 kernel)
[11:50] <intelikey> and make sure that grub points to the new one.
[11:50] <niels> k just forget that about the kernels but tk, can you help me another time(now i have problems with my music)
[11:50] <tk> lol
[11:50] <aliasfred> harmental: oh good it is already packaged
[11:51] <tk> niels: whats your music problem?
[11:51] <tk> ohh crap, glen_ my music might work, I forgot to remount my USB drive
[11:51] <Shan_> ahh
[11:51] <Shan_> better
[11:51] <harmental> aliasfred: yep...but not updated in ubuntu original repos
[11:51] <Shan_> intelikey: so now what
[11:51] <Shan_> lol
[11:51] <intelikey> now what?  which what?
[11:52] <Shan_> i copied the file
[11:52] <intelikey> oh sudo apt-get update       close adept first.
[11:52] <aliasfred> harmental: so yes it is possible to add that directly in sources.list but i dunno the exact format
[11:52] <niels> tk, when I want to play some music (located on my hd so that isn't the problem) it just doesn't play
[11:52] <intelikey> Shan_ when that finishes  you're set.
[11:53] <niels> amarok opens and when I push play then another time it doesn't play at all:(
[11:53] <harmental> i dont quite understand the use of deb, main, stable....and all those prefixes...
[11:53] <harmental> anybody?
[11:53] <aliasfred> harmental: your next step is to ask 'i have an url of a apt repository and i would like to add it in the sources.list, what is the format of the line to add'
[11:53] <kraut> moin
[11:54] <jarska> how can i manage where to install a program?
[11:55] <intelikey> harmental and the answer will be something like "deb http://<your.url> dapper <title of the repo> "
[11:55] <harmental> intelikey: title of my repo??
[11:56] <intelikey> harmental yep
[11:56] <tk> niels: have you installed any codecs since you setup kubuntu?
[11:56] <intelikey> harmental like  main    universe   backports   ...
[11:56] <tk> hmm why wont my ntfs mount now....
[11:57] <intelikey> jarska ???   "<jarska> how can i manage where to install a program?"  what you talking about willis ?
[11:57] <harmental> intelikey: where do i find that?
[11:57] <aliasfred> harmental: it is the url you shown me
[11:57] <intelikey> harmental what's the url ?
[11:57] <niels> jes i did tk but i think that doesn't work
[11:57] <niels> can you tell me what codecs especially i have to install
[11:57] <tk> niels: what did you installed?
[11:58] <niels> (with adept, or synaptic, or konsole,...
[11:58] <jarska> intelikey , I have no idea how to add programs or do anything. :D
[11:58] <niels> i installed in konsolesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:58] <intelikey> !adept
[11:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:58] <intelikey> jarska ^   read that
[11:59] <jarska> intelikey , ok ill try ^^
[11:59] <tk> niels: the package you need is from universe/multiverse
[12:01] <tk> niels: i msg'd you a link that explains what you need to do
[12:01] <niels> k
[12:01] <niels> but i think i have the link...
[12:02] <niels> when i try to download those packages (ugly-multiverse and bad-multiverse i think) they say that it isn't available
[12:02] <niels> neither in konsole, neither in adept
[12:03] <harmental> intelikey: maybe this will help....this is what iv efound in a release file:
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> niels: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[12:03] <harmental> Label: CTS's R backport for Ubuntu/dapper
[12:03] <jarska> intelikey , what if the programlist doesn't include programs that im looking for?
[12:03] <harmental> Suite: stable
[12:03] <harmental> Codename: dapper
[12:03] <harmental> Version: 6.06
[12:04] <harmental> Components: main
[12:04] <intelikey> jarska you enable other repos
[12:04] <intelikey> !repos
[12:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:05] <protec> hi!
[12:06] <intelikey> harmental looks like all standard stuff there    what is your issue exactly ?     you do know that you can copy and paste that don't you?
[12:06] <intelikey> i don't mean paste into irc....  i mean paste into kate   then save as  sources.list
[12:08] <harmental> intelikey: i dont know which title should i add...i've tried dapper main; main; every possible combination but either it is malformed or doesnt find the package...
[12:09] <aliasfred> harmental: be sure to do 'apt-get update' after you modified the sources.list, it will tell apt to load the package list from the repositories
[12:10] <harmental> aliasfred: I know that...
[12:10] <apu> how can i save a webpage, with all of that links
[12:10] <harmental> that is when it fails...
[12:10] <apu> ?
[12:11] <aliasfred> ok
[12:11] <tk> glen_: yah after remounting my drives my version doesnt work with the right xine engine either
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:12] <intelikey> harmental and anyone else updating their sources.list  ^
[12:13] <harmental> intelikey: i know how to add standard repos from ubuntu.com....what i want to do is add a particular repo that has a precompiled version for ubuntu of the soft im interested in ...(http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/)...take a look and you'll see...
[12:15] <intelikey> harmental looks like a dapper-backports main    to me
[12:16] <glen_> tk: yeah, this bug is documented
[12:16] <harmental> intelikey: ill try that and let you know thx!
[12:16] <edylie> anyone installed flash8 on konquerer?
[12:16] <intelikey> harmental http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dapper/Release
[12:18] <niels> the problems still exists, my music won't play
[12:18] <harmental> intelikey: using this line deb http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main
[12:18] <harmental> i get this error: Failed to fetch http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:19] <harmental> intelikey: the problem is that the package is directly under the ubuntu folder...
[12:19] <aliasfred> harmental: if you have toomuch trouble setting this up, you could download all the package by hand and install them from your local disk
[12:20] <harmental> aliasfred: i know but i would like to keep it automatically updated along with the rest of my packages....(one of the things i love about linux!)
[12:20] <aliasfred> so keep trying :)
[12:21] <harmental> and it shouldnt be that hard....:o(
[12:21] <aliasfred> another possibility is to ask the people who have setup this repository for the line to add
[12:22] <aliasfred> if they are setup the repository they surely know how to include it in the soruces.list
[12:22] <aliasfred> maybe there is a wiki or a mailing list
[12:23] <Shan_> whew
[12:25] <Shan_> ok.. how do I get my Kubuntu to see my sata hdd?
[12:26] <intelikey> harmental that repository is not usable with a standard *bunt apt configuration.   the database files are not in a standard location.
[12:26] <Shan_> anyone?
[12:26] <intelikey> and yes i agree with your former complaint.
[12:27] <intelikey> Shan_ maybe sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah ?
[12:27] <glen_> Shan_: is your controller card supported?
[12:28] <harmental> intelikey: that i understood...so there is no way to add that repo to my sources.list?
[12:28] <Shan_> glen_: how do I check?
[12:28] <Shan_> intelikey: when I do a mount command it doesnt even show me my sata hdd
[12:28] <intelikey> Shan_ what did mount say ?
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: maybe because it is not mounted :)
[12:29] <Shan_> lol aliasfred possible
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: you can try qparted to see if linux does find the harddisk first
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: then to mount it ? :)
[12:29] <Shan_> i'm having serious trouble here.. cause it wont even show me the other directories on THIS hdd
[12:30] <Shan_> whats the command to see all the storage media?
[12:30] <glen_> Shan_: try qtparted
[12:30] <intelikey> yeah if you ran mount alone  i don't expect it to show.   but if you did what i said ^ up there i expect either an error message or you need to look in /media/blah
[12:31] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[12:31] <Shan_> ahh yes
[12:31] <Shan_> fdisk
[12:31] <Shan_> *doh*
[12:31] <Shan_> still wont show me sda
[12:31] <Shan_> just shows hda
[12:31] <Shan_> erm
[12:31] <Shan_> hdd
[12:31] <intelikey> oh i'mm lagging....   i'll step out.
[12:31] <intelikey> no not fdisk     sudo fdisk -l
[12:32] <glen_> Shan_: try lspci and see if the controller shows up
[12:32] <Shan_> hehe yeah i just had a blonde moment there
[12:33] <Horn37> bonjour tout le monde, y a t'il des gens qui connaisse bien xine?
[12:33] <aliasfred> !fr
[12:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:33] <Shan_> glen_: ISA bridge?
[12:34] <glen_> no, should say serial ata storage controllers i think
[12:34] <glen_> Shan_: i take it it's an onboard controller?
[12:34] <Shan_> yeah
[12:35] <glen_> Shan_: which mobo?
[12:35] <Shan_> as in I plug the data cable directly on the mo bo
[12:35] <opsidao> hip
[12:35] <Shan_> A8V-MX ASUS
[12:36] <glen_> Shan_: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=A8V-MX+ASUS+linux+compatible+sata&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[12:37] <Shan_> :/
[12:38] <glen_> Shan_: i had aproblem with the sata controller on an ECS mobo. got sick of it and just bought a pci sata controller and every linux distro works with it. only cost 25
[12:39] <glen_> Shan_: well 29 : http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=118181
[12:39] <Shan_> oh
[12:40] <Shan_> sounds like the only solution then
[12:40] <Shan_> thats pathetic tho
[12:41] <glen_> Shan_: it's annoying, but sometimes the onboard controllers have flaky/non-compliant chipsets
[12:41] <intelikey> probably not the only solution.  linux supports more hardware than any other OS in the world.
[12:42] <glen_> intelikey: true, but cold comfort to him
[12:43] <Shan_> didnt have any trouble using the sata on XP
[12:43] <Shan_> :/
[12:43] <Shan_> anyways forget the sata.. i alreayd dual boot but how come I dont see the other drives on this HDD>
[12:43] <glen_> Shan_: have you mounted them?
[12:44] <niels> guys, i'm really turning crazy
[12:44] <niels> my music won't play:(
[12:44] <Shan_> i'm trying
[12:44] <Shan_> but it gives me errors
[12:44] <intelikey> other drives on this hdd ???
[12:44] <intelikey> partitions
[12:44] <Shan_> sorry yeah partitions
[12:44] <intelikey> what error?
[12:44] <Shan_> /dev/hdd5            1252        1309      465853+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:45] <Shan_> thats what I see
[12:45] <glen_> Shan_: can't mount swap partition
[12:45] <Shan_> so when I try to mount hdd5 it says
[12:45] <Shan_> hmm
[12:45] <Shan_> how bout this one?
[12:45] <Shan_> /dev/hdd2            1252        1309      465885    5  Extended
[12:46] <intelikey> that's mounted as swap
[12:46] <intelikey> that's swap
[12:46] <Shan_> hmmm
[12:46] <Shan_> so then i dont see anyting else
[12:46] <Shan_> which is weird
[12:47] <glen_> Shan_: mkdir test      then mount -t <filesystem type>  /dev/hdd2 test
[12:48] <intelikey> Shan_ hda2 is the extended partition hda5 is the logical dirve in the extended partition   and it's formated as swap     free    will confirm it's being used.
[12:48] <Shan_> oh
[12:49] <harmental> intelikey and aliasfred: i got it running! the line should have been deb http://cran.cict.fr/bin/linux/ubuntu dapper/
[12:49] <Shan_> hda or hdd?
[12:49] <harmental> using the standard debian format
[12:49] <aliasfred> harmental: excelent :)
[12:49] <intelikey> glen_ that won't mount unless the partition tabel is screwed and there is a filesystem writen dirrectly to an extenede partition    (not likely)
[12:50] <glen_> intelikey: i just noticed that it was extended
[12:50] <intelikey> harmental interesting i tested that ....   err without the trailing /
[12:50] <Shan_> intelikey: says wrong fs type for all vfat ntfs ext2 and ext3
[12:50] <Shan_> the thing is why cant I see the partitions?
[12:51] <harmental> intelikey: ya see..it was not that "trivial".... ;op
[12:51] <intelikey> Shan_ see it where ?
[12:51] <Shan_> in fdisk
[12:52] <Shan_> sudo fdisk -l i.e.
[12:53] <intelikey> Shan_ pastebin the output of  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:53] <Shan_> k
[12:53] <intelikey> or is that  hdd
[12:53] <Shan_> hdd
[12:54] <Shan_> Cannot open /dev/hdd
[12:54] <Shan_> lol
[12:54] <Shan_> wtf
[12:54] <glen_> Shan_: pastebin the output of 'mount' while you're at it
[12:54] <Shan_> k
[12:54] <glen_> Shan_: put sudo before fdisk
[12:55] <Shan_> k
[12:55] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20372
[12:56] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20374
[12:56] <Shan_> :/
[12:59] <Shan_> well?
[12:59] <glen_> Shan_: there's nothing else to see: you have your root partition on /dev/hdd1 and a swap partition
[12:59] <Shan_> this is a 40 gb hdd
[12:59] <Shan_> i just see 10 gb
[12:59] <Shan_> so the other 30 gb is unformatted is what you are saying?
[01:00] <intelikey> there is nothing special about that Shan_  you have one usable partition on hdd and it's mounted as /   the system root   the other partition is the swap space.
[01:00] <glen_> Shan_: paste df -T -h
[01:01] <Shan_> ok
[01:02] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20375
[01:03] <Shan_> grrr
[01:04] <Shan_> strange
[01:04] <Shan_> :/
[01:05] <intelikey> Shan_ you have free space on the disk...   sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[01:05] <intelikey> see if it shows free space ?
[01:07] <Shan_> yup
[01:07] <Shan_> shows bout 30 gb free space
[01:07] <Shan_> how do I put it to use/
[01:07] <intelikey> Shan_ you are in the partition too
[01:07] <intelikey> use it.
[01:08] <intelikey> i think i'm finished here for the day.
[01:08] <mondo> n
[01:09] <Shan_> ok..
[01:09] <Shan_> sweet
[01:10] <Shan_> need to reboot
[01:10] <Shan_> brb
[01:12] <ninHer> hola a tod@s
[01:12] <zealot> hey
[01:13] <zealot_> hey
[01:13] <zealot_> :)
[01:13] <Philip5> zealot_: hehe, did it help?
[01:13] <Ash-Fox> klipper appears to be broken, even though I have 'synchronise contents of the clipboard and selection' selected, it still doesn't.
[01:13] <zealot_> Philip5: tryingen the client Konvensation! so just trying :)
[01:14] <mondo> hi to all - ciao a tutti
[01:14] <zealot_> but i dont like it! bye
[01:14] <Philip5> zealot_: aha
[01:22] <_kalm> Wow... Its quiet
[01:24] <Jack1> hi
[01:24] <Jack1> how can i get an leo -dictionary plugin for konqueror?
[01:24] <Jack1> like google search?
[01:26] <_kalm> Id love to help but im not using my comp.
[01:27] <Shan_> whew
[01:27] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how reliable resizing hfsplus partitions with gparted is? i want to install kubuntu on my powerbook g4, though im notsure if thats safe
[01:27] <ninHer> Jack1: leo ?
[01:27] <ubuntu> Jack1: you can edit the search shortcuts
[01:28] <ubuntu> ninHer: dict.leo.org
[01:28] <CVirus> how can I manage the startup services ?
[01:28] <ubuntu> Jack1: settings - configure konqueror - web shortcuts
[01:28] <Shan_> ok.. what fs type is a Linux partition?
[01:28] <Jucato> CVirus: startup services or startup programs? (services are the daemons/process running in the background)
[01:28] <ubuntu> Shan_: could be anything
[01:29] <Shan_> i tried ext2 and ext3
[01:29] <Shan_> says wrong fs type
[01:29] <ninHer> Jack1: i prefer use a console, and dict whatever
[01:29] <ubuntu> Shan_: ext3 most likely, but xfs, reiserfs, etc. could all be possible
[01:29] <CVirus> Jucato: services
[01:29] <ubuntu> Shan_: -t auto ?
[01:29] <Jucato> System Settings > System Services (in the Administration group)
[01:29] <Shan_> says I must specif
[01:29] <Shan_> specify
[01:29] <CVirus> Jucato: a command line tool
[01:29] <Jucato> oh...
whats the konsole command then?
[01:30] <Jucato> that I wouldn't know. you didn't mention it :-D
[01:30] <Shan_> i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk
[01:30] <Jack1> sometimes graphical is easier <ninHer>
[01:30] <Shan_> ubuntu: i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk
[01:30] <ninHer> Jack1: i don't think so
[01:30] <ubuntu> Shan_: you need to create a filesystem on them first
[01:30] <Jucato> to each, his own. different strokes for different folks...
[01:31] <Shan_> ubuntu:  how?
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: the logcal volumes (i assume you mean partitions and not LVM volumes) are just the partitions
[01:31] <ninHer> Jack1: open a console and then you write: dict wordtofindout
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: well make sure you know what you're doing first =)
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: know the device names
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: then mke2fs -j /dev/foo will create an ext3 filesystem on it (and most likely annihilate every bit of fs data on it)
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: ext3 = ext2 + journaling, that's why you use mke2fs (and add -j for journaling)
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: if you do this on the wrong device, you may not like the results though =)
[01:33] <Shan_> ubuntu hehe i know.. i know the device names
[01:33] <Shan_> aight its doing it lol
[01:34] <Shan_> is it waiting for an input from me when it says "Creating Journal"?
[01:35] <Shan_> ok its done
[01:35] <Shan_> lol
[01:35] <ubuntu> Shan_: now you should be able to mount it
[01:35] <Electrolyte> Time to try out installing Kubuntu once more, hopefully I have everything set.
[01:36] <Shan_> ok
[01:36] <pituka> Hi there! I'm sitting on a Dell Laptop and I'm searching for a way to auto connect my Wireless Internet connection. Couldn't find a way to do it with the "Wireless Assistant". Establishing manually works fine (with root pass). Any Ideas?
[01:36] <Electrolyte> trappist you there?
[01:37] <Shan_> hmm
[01:37] <pituka> I'm not sittin "on" it btw :P
[01:39] <itachi> @pituka
[01:39] <itachi> what's your distro?
[01:39] <mray> Kubuntu of course :)
[01:39] <itachi> ah sorry wrong question
[01:39] <mray> and i updated yesterday
[01:40] <itachi> I've read the issue reg: ras
[01:40] <itachi> in the ubuntu forums
[01:40] <itachi> i mean 803.11
[01:40] <mray> what do you mean with "reg: ras" ?
[01:41] <itachi> 803.11
[01:41] <itachi> I manually configured mine there
[01:41] <itachi> try typing lspci
[01:41] <mray> well, isn't that more a KDE issue?
[01:41] <itachi> ah no
[01:41] <itachi> the wireless thingy?
[01:41] <itachi> I guess not
[01:41] <mray> the wireless assistant thingy
[01:42] <itachi> not pretty sure
[01:42] <grothesk> Switching to fullscreen in kaffeine completely crashes my machine running 'via' drivers. What can I do about it?
[01:42] <itachi> did it work in gnome?
[01:42] <mray> it is the laptop of my girlfriend - and i want to avoid messing with stuff i don't know.
[01:42] <itachi> try typing lspci
[01:42] <itachi> if the wireless device shows in there
[01:42] <mray> @grotesk: use mplayer or VLC i made better experience with them.
[01:42] <itachi> then there's no problem
[01:43] <itachi> if it shows Unknown Device
[01:43] <itachi> shucks
[01:43] <itachi> that's the problem
[01:44] <mray> no unknown devices.
[01:44] <mray> as i said: it works pretty fine if i just KLICK once manually on the connection in the wireless assistant!
[01:45] <mray> i fire up the assustant, and there appears a list of available networks - i choose the right one - click -wait -all is ok.
[01:45] <mray> so i'm already _almost_ happy :)
[01:46] <mray> but it is inconvenient - because i need to enter the sudo pass every time - and my girlfriend will prefer windows as long as that annoyance is there.
[01:46] <itachi> ah that's the problem
[01:46] <itachi> =)
[01:47] <mray> so i believe very strongly kubuntu made a great job in making work all the hardware.
[01:48] <mray> but there is nowhere any button that says something like : "please try to connect to that connection on startup"
[01:48] <mray> at least i didn't find any :(
[01:48] <ubuntu> hello
[01:49] <joako> hola..........im trying to install d new kde but it say will also need the dapper-updates reponsitory enabled. how can i do this??
[01:51] <mray> @joako: start adept.
[01:52] <mray> then go to view -> manage repositories.
[01:52] <mray> i'm not a kubuntu or linux guru btw.
[01:52] <joako> ok thanx
[01:52] <mray> the grayed out lines are deactivated.
[01:53] <grothesk> Neither mplayer nor vlc will play a DVD.
[01:53] <mray> rightklick on them to activate them
[01:53] <joako> thanx i
[01:54] <mray> @grotesk: that is a problem of the proprietary codec.
[01:54] <asimon> joako: What mray told you is also illustrated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <mray> you will have to download an ILLEGAL package of the DVD codec afaik.
[01:55] <mray> the DVD consortium is a group of $-addicted commercialists. you are forced to pay for the codec to watch a DVD. unbelievable but that's the way it is.
[01:58] <grothesk> mray: No. It does play DVD. But X keeps crashing when switching to fullscreen.
[01:58] <grothesk> That is in kaffeine/xine, vlc and mplayer.
[01:59] <grothesk> So there is a problem with X, not with codecs.
[01:59] <asimon> grothesk: X crashed when going fullscreen with all of these players? Then I would suppose that the bug lies not in the players but maybe in the X driver for your graphics card.
[02:01] <mray> is there a way to establish an auto-connection to a wireless connection in kubuntu?
[02:02] <thor> hello there all
[02:02] <mray> hi
[02:02] <grothesk> asimon: That's what I think too.
[02:02] <thor> I would like some help if thats posable
[02:02] <grothesk> But how can I narrow it down?
[02:02] <mray> grotesk: did you install your ati or nvidia drivers or something like that?
[02:02] <thor> my kubuntu system at work has stoped my keyboard from working
[02:02] <asimon> grothesk: You don't use Xgl, do you? If yes, that could be the cause, it's known to be a little bit unstable.
[02:03] <grothesk> No. no XGL here.
[02:03] <thor> I can log into kdm but after I log in my keyboard is history
[02:03] <grothesk> asimon: I even can't ssh into the box when it crashed. Completely frozen.
[02:03] <Electrolyte> Anyone able to help me get my sound card working? I've got 2 but Kubuntu is using my Yamaha DS-XG card by default not my Audigy 2 ZS.
[02:04] <Electrolyte> I have no idea how to get kubuntu to switch cards.
[02:04] <thor> i did install my nvidia drivers yes and I have twin view on but I dont knkow if thats the problim becouse if I log in as root it works fine
[02:04] <asimon> grothesk: you could have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old, maybe there are some error messages at the end.
[02:04] <grothesk> No. nothing in there. Did already check that.
[02:05] <mray> thor: i have no idea. but akeyboard shouldn't be such a har component to detect and use.
[02:05] <grothesk> So I'll switch back to 'vesa' driver. :-(
[02:05] <mray> thor: what i want to say is: "strange..."
[02:06] <alterato> thor: I had the same problem this week when installing kubuntu for the first time
[02:06] <mray> grotesk: maybe re-install your drivers?
[02:06] <alterato> in the end getting rid of kwallet solved it for me
[02:07] <Electrolyte> Nobody knows how to get Kubuntu to switch sound cards then?
[02:07] <mray> Electrolyte: where did you look so far?
[02:07] <Electrolyte> Er, only the audio system settings and the volume control - I don't know where else to look.
[02:09] <Electrolyte> I need to use the Audigy 2 ZS since it supports hardware buffers (and I got that to work in SuSE 10)
[02:09] <mray> that's where i would have looked, too - but i'm not a linux specialist anyway :P
[02:09] <grothesk> mray: It is a fresh installation.
[02:09] <Electrolyte> lol okay
[02:10] <mray> Electrolyte: you _could_ de-activate one in the bios right?
[02:10] <Electrolyte> No, they're both PCI cards.
[02:10] <mray> grotesk: so you use the drivers that come with kubuntu?
[02:10] <Electrolyte> I'd have to end up removing it, but I use the Yamaha DS-XG's MIDI Synthesizer in Windows.
[02:10] <mray> grothesk: maybe you should try some official drivers from the manufacturer
[02:11] <mray> Electrolyte: that is a problem ^^
[02:12] <mray> Electrolyte: i wonder wether kde or kubuntu is able to handle two cards at all.
[02:13] <mray> Electrolyte: did you try different soundsystems?
[02:13] <Electrolyte> No, I have to use ALSA for hardware buffers on the Audigy.
[02:13] <Electrolyte> And I think KDE does support multiple cards as I see them in the volume control.
[02:13] <Electrolyte> As a little pop-down menu.
[02:14] <mray> Electrolyte: hm. that's odd. i'm running out of ideas, too. :) i came here to search for help myself :P i think this channel lacks some gurus!
[02:14] <administrador> Anybody know's to modify a file: menu.Ist, to put WindowsXP default booting
[02:14] <asimon> Electrolyte: there are some short instructions for "Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching" at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 , maybe they will help. But you have to edit files with an editor, no gui for that.
[02:15] <alterato> Electrolyte: are you having no system sounds at all and no sounds in apps also? Things like mplayer and xine can be configured to use a specific device
[02:15] <glen_> administrador: just move it to the top of the list
[02:15] <Electrolyte> No system sounds, not tried a program that can use mutliple cards yet.
[02:15] <administrador> How?? :|
[02:16] <administrador> I dont understand
[02:17] <Electrolyte> Can't test audio files either on Xine since Kubuntu can't read my NTFS drives :(
[02:17] <mray> administrador: i think you will have to edit some text files manually. inside that textfiles you will have to write some entries just _above_ others
[02:17] <thor> help please
[02:17] <glen_> administrador: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   then move the xp entry to the top of the list
[02:17] <aliasfred> administrador: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default use the 'default' command in menu.lst
[02:18] <mray> thor: i believe you have to repeat yourself in a channel if you want to have luck.
[02:18] <mray> :P
[02:19] <mray> i bet nobody in here remembers why i came in here.
[02:19] <mray> i won't get any help if i _just_ ask for it.
[02:19] <mray> just a hint ;)
[02:20] <administrador> but i already try to edit /boot/grub/menu.Ist and next I can't save
[02:20] <glen_> administrador: did you open with sudo?
[02:20] <DHGE> administrador: do it as admi... -> root
[02:20] <administrador> I Use Kubuntu
[02:20] <aliasfred> Admistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:20] <administrador> last version
[02:21] <mray> administrador: you know what "root" means?
[02:21] <administrador> yes
[02:21] <administrador> but i can't enter by root
[02:21] <aliasfred> Admistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:21] <mray> if you can't save - it is because you have no root rights.
[02:22] <administrador> yes
[02:22] <administrador> e knoe
[02:22] <administrador> waht sudo
[02:22] <mray> administrador: you need to start an application with root rights. no need to log in extra as root.
[02:22] <administrador> Ok
[02:23] <glen_> administrador: use aliasfred's command above
[02:23] <administrador> but, when i installed Kubuntu I configuring to Admin
[02:23] <mray> administrador: starting an application with "sudo" infront of its konsole -line will try to start that very application as root.
[02:23] <aliasfred> sometime it is hard to see somebody keeping asking the same question, when you already gave him the answer :)
[02:23] <XVampireX> I need help installing ktorrent on kubuntu
[02:23] <Electrolyte> How do I writeout a file that I'm editing in console?
[02:23] <Electrolyte> I forgot the keyboard command :E
[02:23] <XVampireX> serge@serge-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb
[02:23] <DHGE> XVampireX: what does not work?
[02:23] <administrador> but I can't save, but I'm Admin
[02:23] <XVampireX> (Reading database ... 163468 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:23] <XVampireX> Unpacking ktorrent-2.0 (from ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb) ...
[02:23] <XVampireX> dpkg: error processing ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb (--install):
[02:23] <XVampireX>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[02:23] <XVampireX> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:23] <XVampireX>  ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb
[02:24] <aubergine> Is Kubuntu based on Debian?
[02:24] <XVampireX> Yes
[02:24] <mray> administrador: i doubt that.
[02:24] <aliasfred> aubergine: yes
[02:24] <aubergine> nice
[02:24] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: ack.  current edgy?
[02:24] <DHGE> XVampireX: If U want it badly look at the "force" options man dpkg
[02:24] <mray> administrador: maybe you just named your user "Administrador" ? ;)
[02:24] <aliasfred> XVampireX: it is a bug in the packaging, you may try some --force option in dpkg as a workaround
[02:24] <XVampireX> Hobbsee: Nope, dapper
[02:24] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: user --force-overwrite
[02:24] <XVampireX> oh
[02:25] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: how did ktorrent-2.0 make it to dapper?
[02:25] <XVampireX> No
[02:25] <XVampireX> Manually installing it
[02:25] <administrador> How to enter in root mode
[02:25] <Hobbsee> oh, well.  it's not my problem then :P
[02:25] <XVampireX> Check the first package
[02:25] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ktorrent*.deb
[02:25] <aliasfred> administrador: man i gave you the command twice already :)
[02:25] <XVampireX> Thanks
[02:26] <mray> Administrator: you know what a console is?
[02:26] <Electrolyte> Brb, need to login & logout for this to take effect.
[02:26] <XVampireX> that worked
[02:26] <glen_> administrador: enter this command now: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:26] <mray> administrador: you know what a console is?
[02:26] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: just be careful what you force overwrite though.  and of course it worked :P
[02:26] <XVampireX> yup
[02:26] <administrador> I know!!
[02:26] <administrador> but appears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found
[02:26] <administrador> in my console
[02:27] <mray> ok then try to enter what the people in here are suggesting you to enter. if something does not work - let us know what kubuntu is saying.
[02:27] <aliasfred> administrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?
[02:28] <administrador> When I put this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:28] <administrador> appears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found
[02:28] <aliasfred> man :)
[02:28] <aliasfred> administrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?
[02:28] <administrador> 3 times
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: there is no gedit in Kubuntu by default. Just use Kate.
[02:29] <mray> administrador: enter this in caonsole: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: K Menu -> Run Command...
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:29] <glen_> that's 4 times now -:)
[02:29] <aliasfred> 5 by my count :)
[02:29] <djclue917> glen_: make that 5. :)
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <glen_> we won't quibble
[02:30] <mray> then how could you type that? :)
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <alterato> thor: I suggested eariler that the same problem for me was solved by disabling kdewallet
[02:30] <thor> my moouse works
[02:30] <thor> I dont have kwallet at work
[02:30] <DHGE> thor: unhook the last 3 keyboards ;-)
[02:30] <mray> are you SHURE it is not hardware defect?
[02:30] <administrador> I already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save itg
[02:30] <administrador> I already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save it
[02:31] <glen_> definitely wasn't 3
[02:31] <thor> I an chatting from how where my kubuntu is grafting niclyu
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: that's why you need kdesu or sudo.
[02:31] <aliasfred> thor: well it works enought for you to flood :) please stop. try to reboot to reenable your keyboard
[02:31] <thor> I did reboot
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: just input this command: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:31] <thor> it worked in the kdm then after login no keyboard
[02:31] <thor> so I loged into console and that worked fine
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: put it in the Run dialog.
[02:31] <aliasfred> thor, you type quite a lot for a non working keyboard :)
[02:32] <thor> this confused me
[02:32] <aliasfred> thor: and please dont flood anymore
[02:32] <djclue917> administrador: or just input this in the terminal: "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:32] <thor> so I loged in su +password and did a startx
[02:32] <mray> thor: honestly ihave no idea what to do other than trying to re-install.
[02:32] <thor> so I could get kde in root mode
[02:32] <aliasfred> djclue917: he has to use kdesu and not sudo
[02:32] <djclue917> aliasfred: he can use sudo.
[02:32] <djclue917> aliasfred: from the terminal that is...
[02:32] <DHGE> thor: there might be something wrong in your xorg.conf then
[02:33] <aliasfred> djclue917: nope as X wont allow it. xhaost reight managmeent
[02:33] <thor> I restored form a working backup and it didn't change anything
[02:33] <Electrolyte> This is getting rediculous.
[02:33] <djclue917> aliasfred: X would allow it AFAIK. i wouldn't have said it if it won't work.
[02:33] <Electrolyte> Still no sound, and now my mouse doesn't work.
[02:33] <DHGE> look at the log-files in /var/log
[02:33] <djclue917> aliasfred: it works in my machine.
[02:33] <administrador> Ok, now I can save it, Thanks: djclue917
[02:34] <aliasfred> djclue917: in this case it is a big security hole in your configuration :)
[02:34] <aliasfred> hue ?
[02:34] <thor> why does my keyboard work in root
[02:34] <aliasfred> sudo does X right now ?
[02:34] <djclue917> administrador: that command was like given to you 6 times already.
[02:34] <thor> I realy am getting totaly and utterly fustrated
[02:34] <Electrolyte> Now KDE thinks I have only one soundcard when I have 2, I even made sure 2 were written to the sodding file.
[02:34] <administrador> yes
[02:34] <Electrolyte> And my mouse doesn't work either.
[02:35] <administrador> now
[02:35] <djclue917> aliasfred: then there's a big security hole in the default X config?
[02:35] <administrador> What I edit in this file
[02:35] <administrador> to put WindowsXP to default boot
[02:36] <bohdy> Zdravicko, je tu nekdo schopny a ochotny poradit, jak nastavit touchpad? :)
[02:36] <thor> there are so many admins
[02:36] <aliasfred> djclue917: well this may means 2 things, either your sudo have been recently modified to handle the xhost right, or your default xhost allow any user connected to your box to read/write anything as if it was you. (aka a big security hol)
[02:36] <Electrolyte> Who was the one who gave me that link to sorting out multiple sound cards?
[02:36] <aliasfred> djclue917: so i hope it is the first :)
[02:36] <playtime3> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:37] <mray> thor: i'm feeling with you. i hate that. if something does not work so badly - i chose to try a plain re-install - if i still need to try out 10000 and it still does not work - i waited a year and had a look at another distribution :P
[02:37] <DHGE> playtime3: k
[02:37] <XVampireX> playtime3: Gnome and KDE
[02:37] <XVampireX> And their relative packages
[02:37] <aliasfred> Electrolyte: on those very specific questions, you may have more chances to get help on #alsa
[02:37] <mray> playtime3: ubuntu uses GNOME kubuntu uses KDE as desktop environment.
[02:37] <playtime3> which one is better?
[02:37] <thor> does any one know of a channel that can actualy help me
[02:37] <playtime3> GNOME or KDE?
[02:38] <DHGE> kubuntu! ask in the OTHER channel...
[02:38] <mray> playtime3: you are in a KUBUNTU channel ;)
[02:38] <djclue917> aliasfred: well, the thing is that I haven't modified sudo nor X.
[02:38] <aliasfred> playtime3: and it is very easy to switch between them, e.g. you install ubuntu you can trivially transform it in kubuntu, and vice versa
[02:38] <playtime3> i dont know, i connected and it takes me to this channel
[02:38] <archangel_> I need some help folks
[02:39] <administrador> What I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot
[02:39] <aliasfred> djclue917: so this mean the behaviour on your box is the default one, so i REALLY hopes this is the first possibilities :)
[02:39] <aliasfred> djclue917: my surprise is that this behaviour is not the one on my kubuntu which is a 6.06
[02:40] <djclue917> aliasfred: i doubt that it's a security hole. this was the default behavior of kubuntu since hoary. if that behavior was caused by a security hole, then that would've been fixed a long time ago...
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, ask then
[02:40] <archangel_> I need help with a laptop that wont boot
[02:40] <aliasfred> djclue917: you mean that you did 'sudo kate' and it works since a long time ?
[02:40] <archangel_> gives errors
[02:41] <aliasfred> djclue917: well i havent modified X or sudo either and it doesnt here :)
[02:41] <djclue917> aliasfred: yeah. i've tried that since hoary.
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, what kind of errors, what do they say?
[02:41] <mray> archangel_: if you start giving usable information about your problem your chances will be bigger that anybody can help.
[02:42] <archangel_> My bro-in-law was upgrading the kernal and when 98% done he quit the process and shut down the pc. Now it wont boot
[02:42] <administrador> What I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot!! anybody say me?????
[02:42] <archangel_> ok
[02:42] <archangel_> 3 errors........
[02:42] <glen_> administrador: just put the xp entry to the top of the list i.e before the ubuntu kernel entries
[02:42] <DHGE> archangel_: why no boot the old, working kernel?
[02:43] <archangel_> that would be great, but I'm a newbie
[02:43] <mray> Is there a way to establish a wireless internet connection on startup on Kubuntu?
[02:43] <DHGE> archangel_: I get a menu (for 5 secs) on boot ...
[02:43] <archangel_> its giving me "ramdisk: ran out of compressed data"
[02:44] <djclue917> archangel_: may you have a problem with your initrd...
[02:44] <administrador> glen: How I doing that???
[02:44] <archangel_> "invalid compressed format (err=1)"
[02:44] <aliasfred> mray: yes, just configure the network interface, and click the option 'init on startup' or something close
[02:44] <djclue917> archangel_: try to edit the grub menu on real-time
[02:44] <archangel_> ok, how?
[02:45] <DHGE> djclue917: newbi-stance??
[02:45] <administrador> glen: How I doing that???
[02:46] <archangel_> the next error isa kernal panic error
[02:46] <DHGE> archangel_: no old kernel anymore???
[02:46] <aliasfred> archangel_: looks like a corrupted storage. like corruypted cd or disk
[02:46] <archangel_> I dont know
[02:46] <glen_> administrador:  cut and paste
[02:46] <archangel_> how do you check?
[02:47] <aliasfred> archangel_: are you booting from cd ?
[02:47] <archangel_> ""unable to mount root fs on unknown block"
[02:47] <archangel_> no HD
[02:47] <archangel_> installed dapper drake
[02:48] <archangel_> am I screwed?
[02:49] <archangel_> this laptop is going to youth camp with one of the leaders tomorrow
[02:49] <archangel_> its GOT to be fixed
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, did you try booting in recovery mode?
[02:49] <thor> mray I have setup my development box with kubuntu and I am running windows development tools in vmware if
[02:50] <archangel_> how?
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> in the grub.
[02:50] <thor> I re install it will mean that I have lost a hole days work and that is not acceptable
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> does it turn on and list kubuntu and old kernels
[02:50] <mray> thor:no way to save it somehow?
[02:51] <archangel_> how do I get there? I dont ever see the option
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> when you first boot, its a black screen with white text
[02:52] <DHGE> archangel_: get professional help and charge your bro-in-law ...
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> no offense, but that won't help him...
[02:52] <archangel_> dude, he doesnt have a dime
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, try posting in the ubuntu forums.
[02:53] <archangel_> I dont get but a few lines during boot up
[02:53] <mray> archangel_: a installation of Kubuntu is a quick thing. if you need JUSt a working installation.
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> and those are the lines of error
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[02:54] <archangel_> I am a very experienced pc user/modder/windows user(over 13 years), but linux is new to me
[02:55] <Electrolyte> Ah crap, 2 fatal errors loading a sound module :/
[02:55] <mray> your brother seems to know at least how to totally screw things.
[02:55] <archangel_> yeah, I was thinking on reinstalling, however, the video driver and all that crap. its nothing like windows
[02:55] <mray> so installing Kubuntu should be easy
[02:55] <Electrolyte> So far my install of Kubuntu has been hell =/
[02:55] <archangel_> I have to ask for help for everything
[02:55] <mray> true. silly question: don't you have windows around there?
[02:56] <edwin> nalioth,
[02:56] <edwin> you here
[02:56] <edwin> oh
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, try posting in the forums and give a detailed description
[02:56] <archangel_> ok
[02:56] <edwin> nalioth,  code blue
[02:56] <mray> forums are reacting rather slow i think.
[02:56] <Electrolyte> Anyone know what this error means: FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:56] <archangel_> same here
[02:56] <edwin> mray help me
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, i was the same way when i started, I was a total newbie even though i'm good with computer