[00:00] <Ominous> kelsin: my domain name is resolving to the old ip
[00:00] <sethk> lufis, nasty.
[00:00] <amp> my Gyachi-E 1.1.0 works great ...except I cant get sound in the yahoo room tho??
[00:00] <lufis> :P
[00:00] <kelsin> probably due to caching at your isp's nameserver?
[00:00] <sethk> Ominous, probably caching at the name server end.
[00:00] <kelsin> Ominous: dns changes take a while to propegate
[00:00] <sethk> Ominous, when did you change it?
[00:00] <amp>  I get this message saying
[00:00] <amp> “Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:
[00:00] <Ominous> about 1h ago
[00:01] <sethk> Ominous, it can take up to 36 hours to propagate
[00:01] <kelsin> Ominous: "dig your.web.address" to find out what your nameservers are responding with
[00:01] <amp> tsd32.dll and  tssoft.acm .... are missing or not in the right folder or place ??
[00:01] <operator011> ls
[00:01] <amp> but im in Ubuntu 7.10 gusty .... .deb
[00:01] <operator011> <sorry, wrong xterm>
[00:03] <carnelain> I get error message: could not connect to video device in camorama. But webcam works fine in cheese. Whats wrong?
[00:04] <gmonnerat> somebody use compiz and avant-window-navigator, the processing is very slow?
[00:05] <Dr_willis> i found avant-window-navigator a bit slow.. and well.. not very useable on my system. so i dident try it for more then 20 min.
[00:05] <eth01> would i be ok to uncomment this in sysctl.conf > net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter=1
[00:06] <echosystm> guys, swiftfox vs. netscape 9
[00:06] <echosystm> which would be quicker?
[00:07] <wsv123456> whats the link to video config
[00:07] <Dr_willis> echosystm,  ive never seen any decent info on how to even 'test/benchmark' how fast a browser is.
[00:07] <mellery> I'm having problems installing java, when I try to run a program i get an exception with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError, I think i'm missing PATHS but I dont know what I need
[00:07] <gmonnerat> Dr_willis: when i use compiz and i am using firefox the system lock few seconds. i am using gutsy
[00:07] <mellery> can anyone help?
[00:08] <Dr_willis> gmonnerat,   does it never lockup when you got compiz dissabled?
[00:08] <kelsin> mellery: you need your classpath env variable to contain whatever jar or file you need to run, what program are you trying to run?
[00:09] <wsv123456> how do I play a dvd in gutsy? What is the update or upgrade
[00:09] <mellery> kelsin, thanks for the reply, its reprap-host.sh
[00:09] <kelsin> mellery: you can also set the classpath on the java command line with the -cp flag, ussually java programs come with some sort of shell script to start them with the right classpath, where didyou install this from?
[00:09] <mellery> I got it from sourceforge
[00:10] <jrib> !dvd > wsv123456 (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:10] <Tim__> juano__, ok when I booted Ubuntu know it did ask me for the wpa, but it still didn't connect
[00:10] <mellery> kelsin: sourceforge
[00:10] <jgrout> whats the best desklets app?
[00:11] <juano__> Tim__ ok, check to see if you have TKIP , did you select it ?
[00:11] <kazol> jgrout: gdesklets
[00:11] <kelsin> mellery: are you running it from the folder where reprap.jar is>
[00:11] <kelsin> mellery: ?
[00:11] <mellery> kelsin, yes
[00:11] <juano__> Tim__ when it connects it should show some blue bars instead of the ordinary network manager icon
[00:11] <kazol> jgrout: Check out gdesklets.de for more desklets.
[00:11] <jgrout> thanks
[00:12] <kelsin> mellery: did you install java from the ubuntu package? sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre?
[00:12] <naelr> can anyone answer an ndiswrapper question for me
[00:12] <Tim__> juano__, no I selected WPA. yes I know how ir looks like when it works, but it only spins the balls on my install, except every tenth time or so, then it shows 1 blue bar but still doesn't work
[00:12] <kazol> jgrout: np; The GoodWeather desklet is very cool-you should check it out.
[00:12] <jrib> naelr: best to just ask the question and find out
[00:12] <jgrout> kazol: will do
[00:12] <mellery> kelsin, when I type java -cp I get -cp requires class path specification, and I'm using sun-java5-jre from the ubuntu repository
[00:13] <goldbond> which brand of graphics card should i chose for my linux box?
[00:13] <naelr> should i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.24
[00:13] <Tim__> juano__, under the livecd or when it used to work on my real install it alwys showed three bars after succesfully connecting
[00:13] <carnelain> I get error message: could not connect to video device in camorama. But webcam works fine in cheese. Whats wrong?
[00:13] <kelsin> mellery: well in this case the program is only one jar and it's specified in the sh script with -jar on the command line, so defining a classpath isn't your issue in this case
[00:13] <Tim__> juano__, so I should look whether I can select TKIP and try it with that?
[00:13] <gmonnerat> Dr_willis: Once or twice, but when it is with compiz and avant-window-navigator occurs more often . i don't believe that this occurs because of compiz or avant , but occurs more often
[00:13] <kazol> jgrout: http://www.gdesklets.de/index.php?q=desklet/view/171 <Highly recommend this
[00:14] <mellery> kelsin: the script has java -Xmx384M -jar Reprap.jar
[00:14] <juano__> Tim__ yes cause if your router is configured with WPA/WPA2 with TKIP there is an option in the same connect prompt window below the menu where you select wpa which lets you select TKIP
[00:15] <kelsin> mellery: I know, I just downloaded it, so the error is this javax/vecmath/Tuple3d error?
[00:15] <Tim__> juano__, ok I'll try it out, and report after rebootin...
[00:15] <mellery> kelsin, correct
[00:15] <tony_math> Still having a problem with Synaptic freezing when I try to save settings using the preferences dialog.
[00:16] <game> mellery: asl?
[00:17] <game> tony_math: what version do you have
[00:17] <john-mike> Hey there, I was wondering.  Is it safe to update Feisty's video driver to the new ATI one?  My computer has the ATI x1400 video card and I know that's always had issues with Ubuntu.
[00:17] <jgrout> kazol: is the location code my zip?
[00:17]  * Pelo wonders who gave FloodBot1 ops
[00:17] <game> fi you can do it go for it
[00:17] <Pelo> john-mike,  you can try , do you know how to recover if it doesn't work ?
[00:17] <naelr> should i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.24
[00:17] <john-mike> No :(
[00:17] <Q_Continuum> john-mike: back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and give it a try.  (backing up that file means you can restore to your existing setup)
[00:18] <Pelo> john-mike, boot the recovery mode and enter  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the vesa driver, then you will be able to boot gui and reinstall the driver you had before
[00:18] <KnickLighter> Hi everyone
[00:18] <KnickLighter> I got a little , big problem
[00:18] <Q_Continuum> john-mike, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backupYYYYMMDD
[00:18] <KnickLighter> I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10
[00:18] <Pelo> KnickLighter, don't make us beg, just tell us what it is
[00:19] <KnickLighter> ye i was starting
[00:19] <KnickLighter> so well
[00:19] <jrib> !enter | KnickLighter
[00:19] <ubotu> KnickLighter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:19] <KnickLighter> But I get errors, it wont start
[00:19] <john-mike> Ah, ok. thanks guys!
[00:19] <KnickLighter> Ok ok here i go:
[00:19] <CaptainMorgan> jgrout, probably.. i have the x1300 and it wouldn't work
[00:20] <game> %C8 hello
[00:20] <KnickLighter> I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, but I get errors, it won't start, like : Exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen - and Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 .. So it gets me to a shell called "busybox" which is useless to me.. I'd appreciate any help :)
[00:20] <Babble> how do i get a list of irc channels in pidgen
[00:20]  * Pelo has got to find a new way to spend his saturday evenings
[00:20] <linux88> knicklighter new install opr upgade
[00:20] <Pelo> KnickLighter,  do you have your /home folder on a seperate partition ?
[00:21] <KnickLighter> hmmm no
[00:21] <Babble> n/m
[00:21] <KnickLighter> On the main disk, where ubuntu is.
[00:21] <Pelo> Babble,  try /list or /channel in the server window if there is such a thing in pidgin
[00:22] <Pelo> KnickLighter, start by searching the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org , that might yeild some info
[00:22] <kelsin> mellery: yeah that vecmath library is not installed by default in ubuntu, trying to find out how to instlal it now, but I don't know
[00:22] <LOGAN> hello, are there ubuntu flash ads available to use?
[00:22] <Javid> Is it true that I can just swap my hard drive with ubuntu on it into a whole other computer and it will, more or less, work?
[00:22] <KnickLighter> I tried google, But thank's ill take a look and let you guys know if it helped me
[00:22] <Javid> people who advertise with flash should be beaten with shovels
[00:22] <mellery> kelsin, thanks, i can find it, I know what the real problem is now. thanks for the help!
[00:22] <Pelo> KnickLighter, but I am afraid you will need to reinstall,  making a seperate partiton and copying your /home folder to it will be of great help in the future for such cirucmstances
[00:22] <tuxthepenguin533> !source
[00:22] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Javid,  i like it - its easier to block their ads. :)
[00:23] <tuxthepenguin533> how can i get ubuntus source code
[00:23] <jrib> tuxthepenguin533: ubotu just told you
[00:23] <Pelo> Javid, it might , I will say no more
[00:23] <abcde_> I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?
[00:23] <Javid> Dr_willis, makes no difference to me, but I suppose that may be true
[00:23] <tony_math> game: the version is 0.60ubuntu5. I'm running Gutsy
[00:23] <Javid> Pelo, that's better than windows does, so it's good enough :]
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Javid,  i get so sick of those 'click the monkey' ads :)
[00:23] <kelsin> mellery: http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/RepRapLinuxSoftware this might help
[00:23] <Javid> Dr_willis, I have not seen an ad in years, firefox is my special love monkey
[00:24] <kazol> jgrout: Yes
[00:24] <Pelo> Javid,  windows isn't even garantied to work in the same computer if you do nothing to it
[00:24] <KnickLighter> Yea i thought of that too, Pelo
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Javid,  Shame! you are the reason the internet is going broke! :P
[00:24] <KnickLighter> I don't have much important things on my server.. Well, I might, but I don't think I will miss them.
[00:24] <tuxthepenguin533> how can i get ubuntus source code
[00:24] <Javid> Pelo, this is true, but no linux drivers exist for my video capture hardware, so I may need to switch, I plan to just swap out the drives as needed rather than dualbooting
[00:25] <Pelo> tuxthepenguin533, on the www.ubuntu.com site,  somewhere
[00:25] <kex> hey. is beryl in the respiratories? because i do not find it :(
[00:25] <Javid> kex, it was last I looked
[00:25] <Tim__> juano__, ok the apparantly the wpa was a one time thing, I rebooted a few times and it only asks me for wep again
[00:25] <Javid> kex, apt-cache search beryl
[00:25] <kelsin> tuxthepenguin533: if you have an ubuntu install you can also get the source for any package with "apt-get source <package>"
[00:25] <Tim__> this is driving me crazy :(
[00:25] <juano__> Tim__ me too
[00:25] <kex> Javid, i dont find it in the synaptic, ok ill try that
[00:25] <Pelo> Javid, you can use windows driver in ubuntu using ndiswrapper , not sure it will work for your videocapture hardware but it is worth exploring
[00:25] <LOGAN> just see on some website an ubuntu ad (a small movie, people pushing a chair with "you got better things to do at the office"
[00:25] <tuxthepenguin533> kelsin: where would the source code be placed
[00:26] <juano__> Tim__ so it appears randomly at boot-time
[00:26] <LOGAN> are these ads available somewhere?
[00:26] <kelsin> tuxthepenguin533: it will download the source code for the package into the current directory
[00:26] <Javid> Pelo, ndis is for wireless drivers
[00:26] <juano__> Tim__ you login as same user everytime ?
[00:26] <Pelo> Javid,  only ?
[00:26] <kex> Javid, that command gave me nothing
[00:26] <Tim__> juano__, yes
[00:26] <kelsin> tuxthepenguin533: it does now save where it downloaded, just gives you the files, you can remove when you want etc
[00:26] <Javid> Pelo, as far as I know, the 'n' means network
[00:26] <Javid> kex, where did you do that
[00:26] <juano__> Tim__ from windows you are able to connect to the wireless without and trouble ?
[00:26] <kex> Javid, terminal
[00:27] <Tim__> juano__, yes, and also from the ubuntu livecd
[00:27] <Javid> kex, you may not have the right repositories, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[00:27] <LOGAN> i tried searching the ubuntu sie but did not get any search results
[00:27] <Pelo> LOGAN, what were yo searching for ?
[00:27] <kex> Javid, ok thank you :)
[00:27] <Javid> I have about eight billion unofficial repositories added, so because I have it may mean nothing to others
[00:28] <Javid> I really need a script for this channel that will make my conversations with others go into PM-like windows so I can keep up with the spam x.x
[00:28] <juano__> Tim__ mm its amazing that you can connect from the livecd and not from your installed ubuntu...
[00:28] <juano__> Tim__ there is wpa_supplicant.conf file
[00:29] <Tim__> juano__, yep, it makes me believe that some config is broke in my home dir, but I have no idea what
[00:29] <Pelo> Javid, make one, pearl is good for that
[00:29] <kelsin> Javid: as long as you and others you are conversing with include the nicknames at the front, most clients highlight lines nicely
[00:29] <LOGAN> pelo I just seen an ubuntu advertisement on www.itbusinessedge.com some blog had a movie, Im looking for these movie ads for ubuntu
[00:29] <Javid> kelsin, I know this, I'm just feeling scripty
[00:29] <juano__> Tim__ yea that would be the most accurate... but still can't think of what
[00:29] <Javid> Pelo, see above :D
[00:29] <Pelo> LOGAN,  they may not be official
[00:29] <Javid> Pelo, I hate perl, I'm gonna do it in mirc, wish xchat had a plugin for that
[00:30] <_seanc_> Hi, quick question.  I have a dual core processor, someone mentioned that I'd need to recompile my applications for dual core support, true or false?
[00:30] <kelsin> Javid: these is also a script for irssi that makes a highlight window that gets any hightlighted messages in it, can help out too
[00:30] <Tim__> juano__, where is that wpa_supplicant.conf?
[00:30] <LOGAN> pelo but it was a great ad, does ubuntu have ads people can use?
[00:30] <Shyde> tuxthepenguin533: without having checked: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/source/
[00:30] <tritium> _seanc_: false
[00:30] <Pelo> Javid,  you can do python to , xchat handles it as well
[00:30] <john-mike> Ha ha, I'm back.  Ok, I updated the ATI driver.  How do I make sure that's what's being used by the computer right now?
[00:30] <Javid> Pelo, I know xchat does everything imaginable, but it doesn't do mirc ^^
[00:30] <Pelo> LOGAN,  not realy sure , I don't know that part of it , I'm just your basic helpfull home user
[00:30] <LOGAN> I now see another ad of ubuntu with coffee mugs
[00:31] <Javid> logan, on what page
[00:31] <SwitchCase> hi, ive just started using ubuntu... can someone help me? im running ms xp atm because im having trouble connecting to my wireles router using ubuntu... any help would be very much appreciated
[00:31]  * Pelo woudn'T do mIRC if you paid him
[00:31] <tritium> !wireless | SwitchCase
[00:31] <ubotu> SwitchCase: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:31] <Tim__> juano__, I will set up a new user account and test if it works with that one
[00:31] <Javid> Pelo, I spent years with it, I have it doing things it really isn't supposed to, I love it
[00:31] <SwitchCase> thanks ubotu
[00:31] <Pelo> LOGAN, check in the fridge section I think it is called, loads of user made stuff in there
[00:31] <Javid> Pelo, I'm weird like that
[00:32] <juano__> Tim__ sure try that... i thought it was in the /etc/  there is a dir in /etc/ called wpa_supplicant but that file doesn't show up
[00:32] <LOGAN> http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/osb/index.php/blogs/osb/index.php it shows sometimes inhere
[00:32] <naelr> should i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.24
[00:32] <Pelo> Javid,  complian to markham ( I think that's his name) get him to port to linux
[00:32] <_seanc_> tritium: sweet, so the applications will automatically utilize the dual core?
[00:32] <LOGAN> I already seen 2 different ones
[00:32] <kelsin> LOGAN: you can find these videos on youtube also
[00:32] <Javid> Pelo, it runs in wine, but a lot of the add-ons don't, no way around this
[00:33] <Pelo> LOGAN, I assume if I have ad block plus I won't see it ?
[00:33] <hellsdark> hi
[00:33] <pablin> hi
[00:33] <Pelo> !hi | hellsdark
[00:33] <ubotu> hellsdark: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:33] <hellsdark> Is Somebody using rtorrent ?
[00:33] <Javid> Pelo, I think we can generally rage against closed source software in general and call it good
[00:33] <pablin> how to install soundblaster xi fi in ubuntu 7.04
[00:34] <LOGAN> Pelo : I dont know. I dont use adblocks :)
[00:34] <tritium> _seanc_: yes
[00:34] <Javid> pelo, logan, I don't see it either
[00:34] <LOGAN> kelsin : aah thanks Ill check there. hope they are downloadable
[00:34] <kelsin> hellsdark: just ask your question
[00:34] <deal_> I've just installed all the extra effects with cube and such. But have not figured out yet how to wright with fire, anyone can help me ?
[00:34] <Pelo> Javid,  I don't rage against close source, I have no problem with close source  I just tried ubuntu after years of bitching about windows and found it to be a pleasurable computing experience, so I stuck with it
[00:34] <LOGAN> they are mixed between IBM adds and other adds that rotate
[00:34] <hellsdark> i would like to use rtorrent via ssh but just in order to see the download status
[00:35] <Javid> Pelo, me too, minus the bitching. I run about 50/50 ubuntu/xp on my computers
[00:35] <kelsin> hellsdark: I would use screen
[00:35]  * Pelo 's got adblock+ and that thing that stops java and flash from starting automaticaly,  browsing is now very enjoyable
[00:35] <kelsin> hellsdark: you type screen, then once inside screen you run rtorrant and start your downloads, then you "disconnect" from this session by typing Ctrl-A D.
[00:35] <hellsdark> kelsin: yes, but what about the rtorrent running ?
[00:35] <Javid> pelo, me too, plus user agent switcher, so people can't block me for that either
[00:35] <deal_> I'm still in rehab!! Windows get you hooked! Now I'm in rehab! And gonna stay (windows)clean from now on :-D
[00:35] <kelsin> hellsdark: later when you ssh in, you type "screen -r" and reconnect to that session
[00:36] <hellsdark> kelsin: can i have several rtorrent running ?
[00:36] <_seanc_> tritium: you sir, are my hero.
[00:36] <deal_> I've just installed all the extra effects with cube and such. But have not figured out yet how to wright with fire, anyone can help me ?
[00:36] <_seanc_> thanks!
[00:36] <riotkittie> hmm. i wonder if my flash probs tie in with ab+
[00:36] <kelsin> hellsdark: why would you want to? :) but you could I guess
[00:36] <john-mike> Does anyone know how I can check what driver I'm using for my video card?
[00:36] <riotkittie> deal_: err. fire/flame whatever plugin?
[00:36] <crimsun> non-free Flash 9 is a PITA.
[00:36] <Pelo> Javid,  I almost never boot xp anymore,  I just need to find a decent autocad alternative and i'll never boot windows again
[00:36] <deal_> riotkittie: Gimme 2 sec, I'll check.
[00:36] <hellsdark> kelsin: in order to not disturb the rtorrent that is running, i don't want to close it :p
[00:36] <riotkittie> john-mike: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver
[00:36] <kelsin> hellsdark: rtorrent handles multiple torrent files simulatneously as it is
[00:36] <danbhfive> john-mike: i think you cant check your xorg.conf
[00:36] <kelsin> hellsdark: you mean the one that's running right now?
[00:36] <hellsdark> kelsin: i know
[00:36] <hellsdark> kelsin: yes
[00:37] <HoboPrimate> Hey! anyone ever had problems with a broadcom wireless chip, which connects to the router but says in /var/log/messages "no IPv6 routers found" (no wonder, my router doesn't support ipv6, but my computer should then revert to ipv4, right?)
[00:37] <kelsin> hellsdark: just stop it with ctrl-q quickly, and then restart, it takes a second to get back up to speed, but it doesn't download anyhthing twice
[00:37] <Javid> pelo, hmm, my cad stuff runs in wine pretty well (better than on vista actually)
[00:37] <deal_> riotkittie: Directly translated from norwegian would be 'paint fire on screen' =)
[00:37] <Pelo> Javid, acad does not run well on wine at all , what cad stuff ar you using ?
[00:37] <brianski> howdy - it seems trackerd isn't indexing my emails. my tracker config has enablethunderbird set, tho - do i need to change the session so that it runs trackerd --enable-thunderbird too or somesuch?
[00:37] <hellsdark> kelsin: kelsin hum i think i'll kill it and use screen as you said
[00:38] <Javid> Pelo, a much simpler program built for the machines I use, it will run on just about anything win95+
[00:38] <kelsin> hellsdark: screen is a great great tool, look up some of the tutorials about it, it will help in MANY situations esp if you ssh alot, this irssi session is in screen for me, so when I go to work I just connect to it
[00:38] <john-mike> Hmmm...says 'fglrx'.  That's not the new ATI driver, is it?
[00:38] <HoboPrimate> I'm googling trying to find a workaround my problem, but just guessed someone here might have come across it before.
[00:38] <Jan-Rippl> Good night
[00:38] <hellsdark> kelsin: yep, i read about it. It just would be easier to launch another rtorrent to see my torrents
[00:38] <riotkittie> john-mike: errr. are you looking for actual version number?
[00:38] <brianski> john-mike: fglrx could be either the new ati driver or the old one, they are both called fglrx
[00:38] <Pelo> Javid,  ah well,  I kind of have to keep up to date,  acad 2006 was a complete bust, acad 14 was very clunky,  I won'T even try 13 , it ran like crap on windows to begin with
[00:39] <Jan-Rippl> Are You want listen my ubuntu radio?
[00:39] <kelsin> hellsdark: then you'd have to program rtorrant to find another version of itself on startup to just report status, since it doesn't have those features by default
[00:39] <Javid> Pelo, I use a lot of older programs, like photoshop 7 and winamp2
[00:39] <john-mike> Ah....well, I'm sure I'm probably running the new one then.  The system update doesn't show it as needing updating anymore.
[00:39] <brianski> you want to see 8.42.3 in the version string
[00:39] <hellsdark> kelsin: yep ^^
[00:39] <brianski> but i'll warn you you're still gonna be disappointed, amd has made a vast improvement but they have a long way to go to even come close to nvidia
[00:39] <Jan-Rippl> http://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg
[00:40] <mellery> kelsin: I found the java3d.jar file the reprap page links to is really an html file not the real java3d.jar, that will fix my problem
[00:40] <hellsdark> kelsin: it would be nice to have some commands to see the status
[00:40] <spydon> I can't ssh into my computer from outside my network. I have portforwarding on my router. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[00:40] <Pelo> Javid,  I don't realy do raster and for what little knowledge of photoshop I had to begin with,  using gimp instead doesn'T make much of a difference for me
[00:40] <riotkittie> ugh. back to X i go. brb
[00:40] <sirbob> I have having a problem with resolution
[00:40] <kelsin> spydon: you need to portforward port 22 to your internal ip, then just "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>from your outside location
[00:40] <Javid> Pelo, everyone I know in graphics would line up to defecate on the gimp's headstone, were it a person and not a program
[00:40] <SwitchCase> Ive read through the guide on wireless networking but the problem im having does not seem to be covered... can someone please help?
[00:41] <sirbob> I am at the right resolution, 1280x720, but the edges of the screen are cut off
[00:41] <lars03> hi. is ubuntu a good linux distribution for a beginner?
[00:41] <spydon> already done that kelsin
[00:41] <riotkittie> weee. reason 317 that i love screen.
[00:41] <Javid> lars03, yes it is
[00:41]  * Pelo 's got a torrent stuck at 99.9% and the swarm is stuck at 0.999,  damit
[00:41] <riotkittie> lars03: yes.
[00:41] <kelsin> lars03: compared to other linux's yes
[00:41] <sirbob> I am using a 42inch samsung tv
[00:41] <spydon> port start 22 port stop 22 server ip <IP_ADDRESS>, kelsin
[00:41] <Pelo> lars03,  yes it is , very freindly, use ubuntu not kubuntu to start with , you'll be very pleasantly surprised
[00:41] <kelsin> spydon: what msg are you getting when you try to ssh from outside?
[00:41] <blackvd> Hi, I'm running VirtualBox w/ XP and every time before I can boot XP I have to change permissions to /dev/vboxdrv by running sudo nautilus in terminal then locating the file and change the permissions every time after reboot? is there an easier way to permanently change permission to files?
[00:42] <riotkittie> sirbob: wow, that has to suck. i'll trade you a 15" CRT.  because i'm kind.   <whistles innocently>
[00:42] <digitalsky> hi people
[00:42] <spydon> Connection refused
[00:42] <spydon> Connection refused
[00:42] <spydon> kelsin: connection refused
[00:42] <Jan-Rippl> http://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg please
[00:42] <riotkittie> blackvd: did you add yourself to the virtualbox/vbox/whatever group?
[00:42] <lars03> should I get the latest version, 7.10?
[00:42] <Pelo> blackvd,  that would be a question for the vbox ppl,  in #vbox or in #vb , not sure which
[00:42] <SwitchCase> can someone help me with connecting to a wireless router?? please?
[00:42] <Pelo> lars03,  we like it , go for it
[00:42] <spydon> oops sorry
[00:42] <blackvd> its not really about vbox tho
[00:43] <kelsin> spydon: some stupid questions: are you sure you have the external ip correct? and secondly do you have a cable modem or other device between your router and modem?
[00:43] <x_> what's the command line forget , install ATI driversor settings?!
[00:43] <blackvd> its about how i can permanently change file permissions
[00:43] <Pelo> blackvd,  but they are more likely to know about the issue and how to fix it
[00:43] <scorch> is there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?
[00:43] <deal_> How can I activate more desktops to distribute my work on? I've set it to two, but want four!
[00:43] <kelsin> blackvd: you can probably do that with a udev rule, it's not a permission on a normal file, it's a /dev file
[00:43] <Pelo> blackvd,  sudo chmod .....
[00:43] <juano__> lars03: it is recommended to stick to the newer versions always, because it has the lastest fixes of bugs
[00:43] <blackvd> chmod a+x?
[00:43]  * Pelo buts out
[00:43] <riotkittie> did you add yourself to the virtualbox group?
[00:44] <juano__> lars03: and it is recommended to update every once in a while
[00:44] <blackvd> how do i add to that group?
[00:44] <x_> what's command line for ATI setting?!
[00:44] <Pelo> blackvd,  read what kelsin  said
[00:44] <digitalsky> hi i'm thinking about trying ubuntu on my notebook, but i want duel boot with my windows.
[00:44] <sirbob> Could it be do to it having a low resoluton for its size versus a normal monitor?
[00:44] <digitalsky> can anyone suggest how much disk space i need on each partition?
[00:44] <sirbob> due*
[00:44] <Dextorion> hi
[00:44] <riotkittie> blackvd: go to users/groups under System > Admin
[00:44] <spydon> Yes im sure I have the external IP correct because if I write it in an browser I get to my router like I would do with my internal router IP too and no I just have broadband modem and router, kelsin
[00:44] <kelsin> blackvd: but also check about that group, that might solve the problem more elegantly, if there is a group you can add yourself to to give permissions on that file
[00:44] <phasegen> digitalsky: duel is right
[00:44] <lars03> should I get 64 bit version? I have 64 bit cpu (c2d)
[00:44] <danbhfive> digitalsky: how much space so you have?
[00:45] <riotkittie> blackvd: then Manage Groups. make sure you're in vboxusers group.
[00:45] <juano__> lars03: yes, if you have a 64 bit cpu
[00:45] <deal_> How can I activate more desktops to distribute my work on? I've set it to two, but want four!
[00:45] <attickid> lars03: sometimes it's harder to find software for 64
[00:45] <digitalsky> yea i'm trying to migrate to linux but need to use some xp apps still... 40GB
[00:45] <Pelo> digitalsky, 10 gig at least if you do one, I have 3 gig used for / right now, 2xram for swap, /home at your discretion
[00:45] <digitalsky> my data can reside on another netowrk drive,
[00:45] <kelsin> spydon: can you ssh to localhost? just "ssh localhost"
[00:45] <blackvd> yeah i'm in the vboxusers group
[00:45] <danbhfive> how much ram?
[00:45] <attickid> lars03: I got a 64b also..but I use x86 just because of that
[00:45] <tim1__> juano__: ok a new user didn't work either
[00:45] <digitalsky> hm 10 GBs
[00:45] <danbhfive> how much ram do you have?
[00:45] <spydon> yes I can, kelsin
[00:46] <juano__> tim1__: i was gonna suggest before you rebooted that you might wanna try loading nm-applet with sudo permissions
[00:46] <x_> !ati |x
[00:46] <ubotu> x: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:46] <lars03> dana_bad me? 4GB
[00:46] <Pelo> digitalsky,  you can install ubuntu on 10 gig , but if you do multiple partitons I recommend 5-10 gig for /
[00:46] <lars03> danbhfive*
[00:46] <juano__> tim1__: gksudo nm-applet
[00:46] <digitalsky> 768MB
[00:46] <SwitchCase> does anybody know why i can connect to my wireless router but nothing happens... its seems my network car has found an connected to it but im not sending or recieving anything... im prompted for a wpa pass but when i enter the correct pass nothing happens... any help would be very much appreciated
[00:46] <danbhfive> no, digitalsky, sorry
[00:46] <juano__> tim1__: but i think the problem is a little far off this
[00:46] <digitalsky> 768MB RAM i mean
[00:46] <Pelo> !wifi | SwitchCase
[00:46] <ubotu> SwitchCase: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:46] <kelsin> spydon: are you able to ssh to an outside network then try to ssh into yours to make sure it's not some wierd issue about sshing to an external ip from your internal box?
[00:46] <tim1__> I will now completely reinstall ubuntu (new /home aswell) and if that doesn't work I'll just stop trying
[00:46] <Pelo> digitalsky,  about 1.5 gig swap them
[00:46] <Pelo> then
[00:47] <Pelo> tim1__,  don'T get discouraged
[00:47] <digitalsky> Ok. DOes ubuntu even let me create/install partitions? I've never tried to duel boot
[00:47] <danbhfive> digitalsky: well, the 10g partitions isnt bad advice, you should have a swap space too
[00:47] <SwitchCase> pelo: yes.. i read the docs but cant find any info on this particualr problem
[00:47] <scguy318> digitalsky: yes
[00:47] <juano__> tim1__: first you should boot with livecd and check what settings are configured
[00:47] <spydon> yes im able to do that kelsin, because i accidentelly typed ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:47] <juano__> tim1__: if it works with livecd, then see what makes it work
[00:48] <tim1__> Pelo: I'm struggling now for days with gutsy and whenever I solve a problem two new pop up, the whole process is very discouraging
[00:48] <spydon> kelsin: and it worked, but i didn't know the password ofc
[00:48] <danbhfive> anyone know why ubuntu uses so much memory?  it didn't used to use this much
[00:48] <scorch> is there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?
[00:48] <Pelo> digitalsky,  the instaler will let you do it when you get to that step , youcan just select to manualy partion or select the partiton,  not sure how it is worded,  as far as the dual booting geos,  the isntaller will make a boot menu with all the oses it sees automaticaly
[00:48] <tim1__> I would really like to continue using Ubuntu (I us it since warty) but it just doesn#t seem to work anymore
[00:48] <scguy318> danbhfive: if you've got effects on could be it
[00:48] <Pelo> tim1__,  what was the latest one ?
[00:48] <kelsin> spydon so if that worked, what is the problem?
[00:48] <[KEMANUSIAN][INS> linux for a free humanity
[00:48] <kelsin> spydon: if the only problem is you can't ssh to your external ip from the internal network, that's probably not a big problem
[00:48] <spydon> I can't connect to my own computer from another network... kelsin
[00:49] <SwitchCase> pelo: any idea?
[00:49] <Pelo> tim1__,  you can always go back to feisty if that worked better for you you will get updates for another year or so
[00:49] <chester_martins> hi there
[00:49] <kelsin> spydon: ok sorry, I must have misunderstood, I thouht I asked if you checked from an external ip and you just said it worked
[00:49] <khatahn> are there ubuntu packages for the latest flash 9 release somewhere?
[00:49] <tim1__> Pelo: my system randomly froze and I had to do a hard reboot, then I completely reinstalled Ubuntu ebcause nobody could help me with that and now wireless doesn't work
[00:49] <chester_martins> can anybody knows a good download manager to ubuntu?? i love dap for windows...
[00:49] <Pelo> SwitchCase,  try searching the forum I'm not very good with wifi stuff , www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:49] <attickid> tim1__: I had also that problem
[00:49] <SwitchCase> ok thanks
[00:49] <spydon> oh sorry I missunderstood you I think, kelsin :P
[00:49] <attickid> tim1__: while using ubuntu 7.10
[00:49] <chester_martins> i can't find a really good for linux
[00:50] <digitalsky> so on my 40GB drive, 20GB Windows, 15GB linux, 2 GB swap, 3 GB data would be ok?
[00:50] <tim1__> attickid: what did you do, downgrade?
[00:50] <Pelo> tim1__, make your /home on a seperate partiton , that way you wonT' loose your data if/when you need to clean install
[00:50] <attickid> tim1__: I fix it..installing the newest nvidia driver directly from nvidia website..
[00:50] <kelsin> spydon: have you tried ssh'ing to some other box somewhere on the internet (maybe a school lab or work machine, anything) then trying to ssh to your computer?
[00:50] <danbhfive> scguy318: interesting, but its not it, i just checked, and they are off
[00:50] <Pelo> chester_martins, didyou check in the add/remove applet ?
[00:51] <tim1__> attickid: it also crashed when I used the vesa driver...
[00:51] <danbhfive> what is the 3g data for?
[00:51] <digitalsky> well docs that i need... like doc, xls, etc
[00:51] <spydon> kelsin: nope I haven't, but i have been at my school trying to SSH to my homecomp and it didn't work, connection refused there too
[00:51] <juano__> chester_martins: from firefox you have downthemall!
[00:51] <digitalsky> currently i'm using about 1.5 GB.
[00:52] <ryan_77> Hi, I'm trying to dual boot XP and Ubuntu. Have XP already installed. Trying to add Ubuntu 7.10 to the 3rd HD (XP is on #1 HD). Each install I try ends with an eventual Grub Error 21.  Any suggestions?
[00:52] <tim1__> Pelo: I have /home on a different partition, but when I downgrade to feisty I will miss applications like miro and some configuration files won't be read by the older applications (like rhythmbox databse)
[00:52] <tritium> spydon: did you install the ssh server on yoru home machine?
[00:52] <abcde_> I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?
[00:52] <juano__> chester_martins: an add-on that resumes.. etc
[00:52] <tim1__> Pelo: before I downgrade I rather switch distributions
[00:52] <digitalsky> if 10GB for linux is enough, 15 should be pretty good then right?
[00:52] <spydon> tritium: Yes :P
[00:52] <attickid> tim1__: when I googled ..I read some people fixing it jsut by installing all the updates..
[00:52] <danbhfive> yeah, 15 is more than enough
[00:52] <Pelo> digitalsky, the / in ubuntu will isntall at about 2.5 gig you won't realy need 15 gig
[00:52] <scorch> is there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?
[00:52] <digitalsky> oh really
[00:52] <digitalsky> hm what about apps?
[00:52] <attickid> tim1__: do u have a nvidia card?
[00:52] <Rafabe> wondering the same thing as Scorch
[00:53] <digitalsky> i mainly want just open office, web browsing, email
[00:53] <chester_martins> ..
[00:53] <blackvd> Ok cool I got it! had to add myself to the group then restartx >_>
[00:53] <kelsin> spydon: Then I'm at a loss, the port forward of port 22 is all you should need. I would double check that the external ip address is actually hitting your router, can you bring up your router's page from your school on that ip etc
[00:53] <tim1__> attickid: yes, but I did a clean install anyway, now it's wireless that isn't working
[00:53] <Pelo> tim1__, did you try installing with the alternate install cd,  it usualy does a better job
[00:53] <digitalsky> i don't know why I'm using 15 GB in my xp now... don't know where the space has gone
[00:53] <Tester> hello
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: you probably gave it to ubuntu on accident
[00:53] <DG19075> there is also an i386 DVD you can use
[00:53] <Slue_Gniffer> hmph.
[00:53] <digitalsky> ok Pelo
[00:53] <spydon> I know ive already tried that, it so weird! Thx for your help anyway, kelsin :)
[00:53] <Creationist> Having a problem with Bluetooth - every time I try to connect to my mobil phone I get this error: "obex://[00:1b:59:b8:4a:03]" is not a valid location."   Blue tooth is on on my phone and my phone appears in the list of devices... What gives?
[00:54] <digitalsky> IndyGunFreak: I don't have ubuntu on it yet
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: then youv'e wonked something up...lol, how big is your hard drive?
[00:54] <kelsin> spydon: it's also possible that your isp blocks port 22, you can try to port forward some higher port to 22 internal
[00:54] <Creationist> I would hate to have to use Windows just to get files off my phone.
[00:54] <Pelo> digitalsky,  depends on the app,  ubuntu already comes with a butload fo defaults like OOo and others, tha's part of the 2.5,  I'm up to 3 gig atm and I have a lot of aps,  not as much as some mind you ,  5-10 gig is what I recommend,  i fyou install windows apps on your system running on wine they will isntall in your /home folder anyway ( what you call data _
[00:54] <kelsin> so then you'd connect with "ssh -p 5897<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and reach your box on 22
[00:54] <tim1__> Pelo: no I didn't test the alternate, but I will try that, thanks for the tip
[00:54] <pablin> how to install soundblaster xi fi in ubuntu 7.04
[00:55] <kelsin> spydon: obviously where 5897 is whatever high port you chose, that will get past it if your ISP blocks port 22
[00:55] <digitalsky> 40GB. XP Pro + MS Office + Matlab + OO + a bunch of smaller softwares = 15GB
[00:55] <ryan_77> Hi, I'm trying to dual boot XP and Ubuntu. Have XP already installed. Trying to add Ubuntu 7.10 to the 3rd HD (XP is on #1 HD). Each install I try ends with an eventual Grub Error 21.  Any suggestions?
[00:55]  * Pelo will be distracted for about 43 minuts
[00:55] <digitalsky> hmm
[00:55] <spydon> Okay I will try that kelsin thx
[00:55] <Rafabe> if i have the .iso downloaded on the target computer, can I install Ubuntu by extracting it, booting into DOS, and running the setup file? I don't have an optical drive on the computer, so I can't burn/read CD.
[00:56] <DG19075> has OO save stuff in .doc format
[00:56] <Marfi> hey yall. whenever i load up compiz, my borders are missing, so i can't click and drag, x out of my windows, etc. anyone have a link to the code that i have to edit to fix it?
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: to the 3rd what?.. hard drive or partition?
[00:56] <ryan_77> hard drive
[00:56] <kelsin> !install | Rafabe
[00:56] <ubotu> Rafabe: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:56] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: up to 3gigs?..lol, i have 12..lol
[00:56] <Marfi> DG19075, yes, OO can save in .doc
[00:56] <Pelo> digitalsky,  well , xp takes about 4-6 gig to start with , incl;uding all the updates,  mso takes a lot of room as well ,  OOo is already part of the default install in ubuntu , don'T know what matlab is but I can guess and no idea how much room it takes
[00:56] <Rafabe> thanks kelsin
[00:57] <Dukke> my ubuntu is 7.04  he don't start if i try to use the last version of ubuntu i have to del all?
[00:57] <kelsin> Rafabe: that first link does have many ways to install without a cd
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: are you in Windows right now, or on the live cd?
[00:57] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  3 gig on my / ,  I have about 40 gig for stuff in my /home
[00:57] <IamReck> Anyone have any clue why using Compiz Config would break VLC Media Player?
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: oh ok...lol,
[00:57] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, I'm in my ubuntu install atm why ?
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: that wasn't for you, it was for ryan_77 sorry
[00:57] <spydon> connection refused there too. kelsin :(
[00:57] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: from what I have read, theinstaller should be fine with separate dual boot Hard drive installs of XP and Ubuntu
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: are you on the live CD, or in windows right now?
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: yes, it should be, thats how i learned linux, windows on one drivef, Linux on the other.
[00:58] <Micheru> hey IndyGunFreak i am running plain ubuntu now, just gotta wait for the disks to arrive
[00:58] <kelsin> spydon: are you sure your broadband modem doesn't take up an ip and form a firewall between your router and the internet?
[00:58]  * Pelo ' s windows install is 3 gig, no upgrades,  no mso, just autocad
[00:58] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: i'm on a separate computer.. i have tried the Live CD install and the Alternate install
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: lol, i figured thats what you'd end up doing.
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: when you get your XP disks, i'll help you sort out that mess you had going on...
[00:58] <digitalsky> ok then 20GB xp 10 GB ubuntu 2GB swap 8GB data
[00:58] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak, hehe
[00:59] <Smegzor> How soon will Wine 0.9.50 be available in the repos?
[00:59] <Micheru> oh i fixed that
[00:59] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: i'm on a windows box now, over my shoulder is the error screen
[00:59] <IamReck> Anyone have any clue why using Compiz Config would break VLC Media Player?
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: but i wouldn't do to much, usually, the best thing to do, is let Windows take over the whole drive, install, etc, then use the ubuntu installer to partition the drive.
[00:59] <digitalsky> Pelo: did your 10GB recommendation include the 2GB swap?
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: ok.
[00:59] <Micheru> i used the livecd to wipe all the partitions and installed ubuntu on one big partition
[00:59] <kriel> Hello everybody. I'm trying to follow a forum topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 and I got to the part where I'm supposed to 'make depend && make' in the installation, however make pukes up with an error shown at http://pastebin.com/m3ff648ac . Any ideas on what I should try and do to let make go on?
[00:59] <spydon> I don't think so because then I wouldn't come to my router when I write my external IP in a browser, would I, kelsin?
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: try changing your BIOS, to boot one of your slave drives first, maybe grub got installed on the wrong drive.
[00:59] <Micheru> then i will do what you just said lol
[00:59] <kelsin> spydon: from school?
[01:00] <Pelo> digitalsky, sounds about right,  make the /home right after the / , so you can resize the / and use the room on /home if you need to , I think you will want to do that after a little while
[01:00] <spydon> both, kelsin
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: thats the easiest thing to do... use this time with Ubuntu only to do some learning.
[01:00] <Pelo> digitalsky,  I actualy recommended 1.5 gig of swap in your case but swap is seperate from /
[01:00] <digitalsky> would too much swap affect performance?
[01:00] <kazol> Can someone help me setup samba access to a server that will require the passwd to the server to be typed each time the system is started?
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: did you understand what i was talking about?
[01:01] <ArthurArchnix> Is is possible to launch an windows app on a vbox machine, without first starting inntek vbox, choosing the machine, starting the machine, then launching the app? At the very least setting a default machine that launches automatically?
[01:01] <Pelo> digitalsky,  the rule of thumb is 2x RAM , you don't realy need more unless you have very little memory
[01:01] <digitalsky> I actually wouldnt' need much of a /home I think, because I'm the only user and I'll mount the data and save everything there so I can share them with XP (that's possible right?)
[01:01] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak, i have had ubuntu for a month, on another machine and it was a completly different setup, thats why i screwed this one up
[01:01] <Pelo> ArthurArchnix,  you'll have to ask in a virtualbox chanel
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: it happens, if i told you i never screwed up my system trying to install Linux, i'd be struck by lightening.
[01:02] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak, hehe
[01:02] <Pelo> digitalsky,  /home not only contains your data but also all your user settings,  , and you can share with a windows network using samba
[01:03] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: thanks, i do understand, but the bios does look at the mbr of hd0 and grub does start (where as XP used to), then goes to a Grub Loading stage 1.5, grub loading please wait... , error 21
[01:03] <kelsin> spydon: yeah that probably wouldn't happen, yeah I'm at a loss from here :-( good luck with it.
[01:03] <Smegzor> I followed the instructions to install Wine 0.9.50 here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but when I apt-get install wine, it always installs 0.9.49  How do I get 0.9.50 installed?
[01:03] <digitalsky> yea but I expect the user settings won't take much room
[01:03] <Micheru> i gotta restart
[01:03] <Rockbuddy> Hey everyone.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: i know that, but when i used to use two drives, i'd usually get grub installed on both drives..(why i don't know)...
[01:03] <scguy318> ryan_77: if you're desperate to boot to something, burn yourself a Super GRUB CD
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: thats why i suggested that, or as scguy318 suggested, get supergrub.
[01:04] <ArthurArchnix> Pelo: I did... no response. I found a message on the forum from a developer saying no though, while I was waiting. But I'm not sure if the "no" meant can't create shortcuts to autolaunch programs, or "no you can't hide the windows taskbar when in seamless mode.
[01:04] <Pelo> Smegzor,  there is not 0.9.50 package for ubuntu yet you'll have to wait a few days,  ifyou instal 0.9.49 now it will upgrade automaticaly when it is out
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> !sgd | ryan_77
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> !supergrub
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <spydon> kelsin: thx for all your help!   If I want to duel boot, do I install linux or xp first?
[01:04] <digitalsky> my guess is linux right?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: always xp first
[01:04] <scguy318> ryan_77: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[01:04] <Pelo> digitalsky,  install xp first
[01:04] <kelsin> digitalsky: always xp
[01:04] <digitalsky> really?
[01:04] <cec> Can someone tell me if gtkpod is the best program for managing an ipod on ubuntu?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: yes,
[01:05] <digitalsky> so i have to use the xp to partition my drive?
[01:05] <kelsin> digitalsky: windows doesn't care about other os's and will overright the bootmanager only allowing you to boot windows
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: xp will piss and moan if its not master of everything.
[01:05] <Pelo> digitalsky, yes, that way ubujntu will detect it during hte install and make the appropriate entry int eh boot menu
[01:05] <Smegzor> Pelo: but don't I get it right now if I do what it says here?  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:05] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: and scguy318: thanks.. I feel Super Grub might be the way to go.
[01:05] <kelsin> digitalsky: you can resize windows partitions after, or just tell the windows isntaller not to use the whole drive
[01:05] <juano__> digitalsky: no, its a matter of GRUB bootloader, its best if you install xp first
[01:05] <x_> how i can install or active ATI drivers?!
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: no, use XP, take over the entire disk,
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: then install ubuntu, and use it to partition the drive, and install ubuntu
[01:05] <digitalsky> oooooook..............
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: i meant then use the ubuntu cd, to partition, then install ubuntu
[01:06] <Rockbuddy> I have a uestion about Ubuntu 7.10... It doesn't start at all I can't even install it. I get the error message "find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz   |   Error 17: File not found."
[01:06] <kriel> I'm trying to follow a forum topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 and I got to the part where I'm supposed to 'make depend && make' in the installation, however make pukes up with an error shown at http://pastebin.com/m3ff648ac . Any ideas on what I should try and do to let make go on?
[01:06] <ryan_77> scguy318: I'm not desperate, I can fix XP.. just want to dual boot
[01:06] <juano__> digitalsky: you can partition your disk without any OS if you download the gparted live CD
[01:06] <Pelo> Smegzor,  what is out now is the 0.9.50 source,  distro specific packages are made by volunteers,  they need a few days to make them , give it a few days , be patient
[01:06] <x_> anyone can help me about ati drivers ?!
[01:06] <kelsin> kriel: that's from 2005
[01:06]  * IndyGunFreak <3's gparted live
[01:06] <juano__> !ati | x_
[01:06] <ubotu> x_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:06] <Pelo> Rockbuddy, did it install ? or are you not able to install it ?
[01:06] <kelsin> krel: use the wine from the ubuntu repos, it works with WoW fine
[01:06] <Rockbuddy> I have a question about Ubuntu 7.10... It doesn't start at all I can't even install it. I get the error message "find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz | Error 17: File not found." can someone please help me?
[01:06] <Rockbuddy> no pelo
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | Rockbuddy
[01:07] <ubotu> Rockbuddy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:07] <kriel> kelsin: I... so forgot to check the date... Thank you.
[01:07] <digitalsky> so in my case, if I want 20 GB xp + 8.5 GB linux + 1.5 GB swap + 10 GB (/home + windows data), then I install xp first and use up the whole drive?
[01:07]  * Pelo already knew IndyGun was a freak but he had no idea how far it went
[01:07] <kelsin> kriel: once you install wine from the repos start at the "winecfg" line in that tutorial
[01:07] <kazol> For some reason .bash_history doesn't get updated. It is probably due to the fact that I shredded the file, rm'd it, and created a blank one. Any suggestions?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol, you have no idea.
[01:07] <Rockbuddy> i no i just forgot to finish my sentence sorry..
[01:07] <Pelo> Rockbuddy,  try using the alternate install cd,   you can get it from the ubuntu.com site just check the box under the download now button
[01:07] <digitalsky> actually i might just be wasting you guys' time here. it's probably somewhere in the web
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: what is?
[01:07] <Gate> Anyone used Ubuntu on the newest macbooks? I am having alot of trouble getting *any* functionality out of the fn key and I can't get sound
[01:08] <Rockbuddy> Pelo: will it most likely work or are you unsure?
[01:08] <kelsin> kriel: cause from slightly looking at it, the instructions after that (the few) are what I do when trying to get wow working, it's worked really easily for me recently at least :) good luck
[01:08] <digitalsky> instructions to do duel boot
[01:08] <Pelo> digitalsky,  you are not wsting your time , but please use our nick in each line so we know you are talking to us
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> digitalsky: oh yeah.
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | digitalsky
[01:08] <ubotu> digitalsky: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:08] <kelsin> kazol: bash only writes to bash_history on exit
[01:08] <digitalsky> Pelo: ok
[01:08] <ryan_77> IndyGunFreak: scguy318: thanks
[01:08] <Pelo> Rockbuddy, it usualy does,  the alternate install cd is more leanient about hardware during the installation process
[01:08] <digitalsky> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[01:08] <kelsin> kazol: does it not write to it on exit?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> ryan_77: np, good luck, iv'e not had much luck with supergrub.... but if you can figure it out, it might work
[01:08] <kazol> kelsin: I have exited the terminal and rebooted several times already.
[01:09] <kriel> kelsin: Thank you, very much.
[01:09] <imbecile> lets geek out on IRC
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> nigggo: lol
[01:09] <kelsin> kazol: ahhh, wierd, if you rm the file it should just create it again when exiting, unless there is an odd setting to turn it off in your .bash_profile, .profile or .bashrc files
[01:09] <kazol> ok
[01:09] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, since when do you speak french ?
[01:09] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  nvm
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol...
[01:10] <kriel> Oh. How do I un-make the wine that i've already installed? If i just do apt-get install, does it overwrite the old wine?
[01:10] <kelsin> kriel: you've already run a "make install" command>
[01:10] <kelsin> ?
[01:10] <DM|> anyone have a synaptics touchpad working properly with verticle scroll ?
[01:10] <_DT> kriel: yes
[01:10] <kriel> kelsin: oh. No. Duh, I was just compiling it. -slaps face- Thank you...
[01:10] <kelsin> kriel: then you should be good :)
[01:11] <operator011> Can an anyone please advise how I change the size of my terminal (1024x768 pixels, but ubuntu is defalted to 640x480), where is the config file for this setting?>
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> where can i get a list of IRC commands, like msg, notify, etc..
[01:11] <Captain_Linux_> Anyone know of a good IDE for mips?
[01:11] <kriel> Linux needs to level out the learning curve abit. I've spent like 3 years on and off trying to conquer it, and I'm still lost...
[01:12] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, try asking in #xchat , they probably have a link for that, I just leaned as I went over the years
[01:12] <hwilde> i've got no sound on lenovo r60 laptop?
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: oh ok.
[01:12] <slliness> hey my g/f managed to get my top panel in gnome to right of the screen and I can't get it back. I have a crt 15" monitor and a TV on the graphics card svideo out running xinearama (I thnk) plus compiz-fusion installed
[01:12] <Pelo> !sound | hwilde
[01:12] <ubotu> hwilde: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:12] <Pelo> hwilde,  also check your model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport there might be some advice
[01:12] <kriel> operator011: well, for starters, you can hit the maximize button. (the one next to the x.) I'm not sure how to make it permanent, though. Try poking around the terminal options.
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: you probably have intel hda.
[01:12] <LOGAN> bah I begin to feel the restrictions of open source software more and more
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> all those lenovo's do.
[01:13] <kelsin> LOGAN: then edit them to your liking
[01:13] <hwilde> Pelo, alsa is selected and my hardware is supported
[01:13] <hwilde> IndyGunFreak, yep that is it
[01:13] <kriel> IndyGunFreak: my lenovo works perfectly with the latest ubuntu. literally ootb, perfectly supported.
[01:13] <slliness> how do I get my panel back to top of screen is it like xfce and moving panels?
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: yeah, some do, some don't
[01:13] <Pelo> slliness,   right click the botom pannel  on an empty place, select add a pannel, or new panel,  move it to the top, right click add to pannel and add the stuff you want to it
[01:13] <hwilde> everything works it's just like the sound isn't playing
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: youc an try to compile a new alsa driver.
[01:13] <LOGAN> kelsin : for example, I cannot use open source game engine to make commercial game
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: ya.
[01:13] <Pelo> hwilde, mute button on the lappy ?
[01:13] <LOGAN> forces game into open source
[01:14] <quentin> Hi, has anyone managed to get the slmodem source to compile on the generic ubuntu kernel?
[01:14] <kelsin> LOGAN: well you can if you want to make it open source, or find an engine that's a BSD license
[01:14] <Lupin> does anyone know how i make xchat 2.8.4 go to tray on "X" (close windows) instead of shutting down?
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: open a terminal and type lspci  and see how it identifies your sound device.
[01:14] <hwilde> Pelo, that doesn't seem to be doing anything but yeah there is volume up down and mute
[01:14] <kelsin> LOGAN: also most game engines have a dual license policy so you can buy a commercial license
[01:14] <slliness> Pelo, how do I move my already existing panel back to top cause it is already pack with aplets
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> hwilde: there's a volume because it recognizes the device, but the way its being controlled is wonked up
[01:14] <slliness> s/aplets/applets
[01:15] <LOGAN> kelsin : Im unemployed atm. no money for licenses anyway
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> its an alsa issue.
[01:15] <Pelo> hwilde, I'm just trying for the obvious stuff,   check in menu > system > prefs > sound , see that hte right card is selected or put it on automatic
[01:15] <hwilde> IndyGunFreak, lspci   00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> damn i'm good.
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:15] <Pelo> slliness,  just drag it
[01:15] <hwilde> if it were obvious I wouldn't be asking in irc
[01:15] <hwilde> it is just muted somewhere i know it
[01:15] <hwilde> alsamixer will save me
[01:15] <kelsin> LOGAN: but "restrive" is also relative, compared to closed-source engines, I would say most open source ones are much less restrictive
[01:15] <slliness> Pelo, so i have to remove some stuff to grab it then cause have so much on it
[01:16]  * Pelo thinks hwilde  is doomed
[01:16] <slliness> pelo just launches stuff
[01:16] <kelsin> LOGAN: but yes compared to, "I want to use this free software to make a closed source game for money" it is restrictive
[01:16] <DG19075> silliness: In the panel menu you can select properties and then change the position of the panel
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> well, i was gonna try to talk him through compiling new alsadrivers..lol
[01:16] <LOGAN> kelsin : im unemployed atm... thats my biggest restriction already
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> i got it setup on my laptop really easy
[01:17] <Pelo> slliness,  you can make a new pannel you don'T have to use the one you have already and be stuck with just one,  you can make as many pannels as you want, with almost anything you want on them ,just play around with the right click options
[01:18] <Gate> anyone know how to get the fn key working in the most recent MacBook?
[01:18] <vonehle> I'm trying to install 7.1.  I think I'm not able to view the entire screen.  For instance, I'm currently on the "Where Are You" screen.  I have selected my region, but cannot see a "next" or "continue" button, so I'm stuck on this screen.
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: can you change your screen resolution?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like the "next" button is hanging off screen
[01:20] <vonehle> How do I get to the resolution changes?  Right clicking the desktop doesn't seem to work.
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: system/preferences, i do believe
[01:20] <letha1> I changed my xorg.conf file, to allow me to use my quad display, now it won't allow for Desktop Effects
[01:21] <letha1> how do i renable desktop effects with multiple monitors?
[01:21] <vonehle> 800 x 600 is the best it offers me.
[01:21] <Pelo> vonehle, menu > system > prefs > screen resolution,  if he resolotuion you want isn'T available you have to add it manualy to the xorg.conf file then it will be available
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> letha1: quad displays?.. wow.
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> i thought dual rocked.
[01:21] <Pelo> letha1, ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:21] <letha1> do you guys have Desktop Effects?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: problem is, he's on the live CD, trying to install, can he modify xorg.conf on the live cd?
[01:21] <vonehle> how do I get to the xorg.conf file?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: try this...
[01:21] <Pelo> vonehle,   open a terminal and type  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down a bit, it is quite obvious where you need to add
[01:22] <gojita> vonehle, I had a messed up resolution setting, after I installed Envy, then picked the appropriate driver.  It installed everything and configured the xorg.conf for me automagically!
[01:22] <Pelo> vonehle, IndyGunFreak,  he can, but he'll have to restart X and not reboot,  and the changes won't hold when he reboots
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: oh i see, just restart X, that makes sense
[01:23] <Jannita> necudeco, :*
[01:23] <slliness> anyone here know anything about the weather applet in xfce, keepin mind I have a good working install of compiz-fusion and do not want to jeopardize it. the xfce weather applet in really good
[01:23]  * Pelo beats FloodBot1 to within an inch of it's life
[01:23] <vonehle> sorry guys, I don't know anything at all about Ubuntu.  How do I open a terminal?
[01:24] <gojita> ...
[01:24] <slliness> the gnome weather applet is bunk
[01:24] <wladek> heya.. if i write a simple shell script that takes a paramater (start|stop) and stick it in my /etc/init.d directory.. will the 'start' paramater automatically be passed to it on boot?
[01:24] <gojita> upperleft - accessories - terminal
[01:24] <wallsp> how to get all DVD / decss and other shit?
[01:24] <Pelo> slliness,  if you are using xcfe you might want to ask your quesitons in #xubuntu
[01:24] <matt__> there is gdesklets for gnome, is there an equivalent for kde?
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: just for grins, try this... drag your panel at the top, to the side.. then try to move the window up a little bit, and se if you can see "Next"
[01:24] <dmitrig01> I have an old powerpc mac.  I want to install ubuntu
[01:24] <dmitrig01> where do I start
[01:24] <Pelo> slliness,  also consider gdesktlets I think they work on xcfe,  there is a nice weather desktop app in there
[01:25] <dmitrig01> I've never user or installed linux before
[01:25] <Pelo> dmitrig01, dl the mack version of ubuntu first
[01:25] <Pelo> mac
[01:25] <matt__> there is gdesklets for gnome, is there an equivalent for kde?
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: your'e in for a treat, you picked hte best version right off the bat, most of us distro hop for a year.
[01:25] <Pici> !dvd | wallsp
[01:25] <Pelo> dmitrig01,  then just burn image to the cd and boot from it
[01:25] <ubotu> wallsp: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:25] <revx> i got Gyache, but seem my webcam a4tech 635m dont work in it.any idea.
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: did that work?
[01:25] <slliness> Pelo,  sorry I am not using xfce use it on other machine
[01:25] <dmitrig01> IndyGunFreak: wha?
[01:25] <dmitrig01> Pelo: how do I do that?
[01:26] <slliness> I am running gnome
[01:26] <gojita> how can I have ubuntu gutsy download from the latest repo's like cutting edge Fedora type distro?
[01:26] <Pelo> dmitrig01, goto www.ubuntu.com,  get the cd and burn it first,  not sure how you boot from the cd on mac, I think you hold the C key while booting or something like that
[01:26] <vonehle> when I typed in the sudo... I got a notepad type screen, but it is blank.  Is this because I'm running off the CD right now?
[01:26] <mic21> good evening, i am using NFS on ubuntu gusty to share homes directories and I have the following error that i can't fix... lockd server <IP_ADDRESS> not responding timeout, couldn't create RPC handle for <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:26] <Pelo> slliness,  sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:26] <dmitrig01> well, I dunno how to make a bootable dv
[01:26] <dmitrig01> d
[01:26] <digitalsky> Pelo: one thing came to mind. In XP i have files that have spaces + english + chinese/japanese in them. Will ubuntu be able to read them?
[01:27] <Pelo> slliness,  sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-extra
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: you didn't type the entire command in correctly then
[01:27] <Pelo> digitalsky,  yes
[01:27] <dmitrig01> what kind of computer do I have?
[01:27] <dmitrig01> " Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)"
[01:27] <dmitrig01> ?
[01:27] <digitalsky> Pelo: nice!
[01:27] <dmitrig01> or "64bit AMD and Intel computers"?
[01:27] <gojita> I think mac computers are 'ppc' architecture... not sure though
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: just try this, at the top, where your clock, applications menu, etc, is, try dragging it to the right side of the screen, then try moving that window up a little bit, and see if you can see "next" at the bottom
[01:27] <jrib> gojita: not recent ones
[01:27] <Pelo> dmitrig01, I think there is a button or a link for mirrors in that page, click on it
[01:27] <digitalsky> Pelo: I mean filesnames.... eg. english + chinese in the same file/folder name
[01:28] <bulmer> mic21-> is that an error from your log file?
[01:28] <gojita> ...what are recent ones?  ppc64?
[01:28] <LjL> gojita: plain intels.
[01:28] <Pelo> digitalsky,  I know what you meant,  my answer stands
[01:28] <dmitrig01> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors?
[01:28] <mic21> bulmer: it's the error on the client with dmesg.
[01:28] <gojita> NICE
[01:28] <vonehle> I cannot drag it
[01:28] <digitalsky> Pelo: Great! Thanks.
[01:28]  * Pelo is pretty sure anyway
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: yes you can...
[01:28] <bulmer> mic21-> can you ping the server okay from client?
[01:29] <gojita> what repos in Ubuntu have to be enabled to get the latest and greatest?
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: then do this, right click an open area of the panel, choose properties, where it says "orientation" choose "right"
[01:29] <LjL> !backports > gojita    (gojita, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:29] <mic21> bulmer: yes and the home dir is mounted; but i can't login because of the timeout
[01:29] <dmitrig01> Pelo: so what sholud I download
[01:29] <Pelo> dmitrig01, where are you located ?
[01:29] <gojita> LjL, THanks
[01:29] <dmitrig01> nearest portland in the US
[01:29]  * IndyGunFreak thinks everyone should start off w/ 32bit.. hardware be damned
[01:30] <dmitrig01> specifically, SF Bay area
[01:30] <dmitrig01> in CA
[01:30] <mic21> bulmer: i mean with gnome; a simple login on the terminal is ok.
[01:30] <branden> Hey everyone how are ya
[01:30] <viper550> Help, problem! I installed Gutsy, and when I booted in, the bootscreen worked, but then when it was supposed to go to the login screen, the monitor turned off.
[01:30] <Pelo> dmitrig01,  region is not so imporatnt
[01:30] <gojita> I thought backports meant things from the past that had been made compatible with newr stuff in case its broken :p
[01:30] <bulmer> mic21-> is the portmap running on your client?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> viper550: did moving your mouse bring it back up?
[01:30] <dmitrig01> North america
[01:30] <abcde_> I am unable to get Tracker to search my computer.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?
[01:30] <branden> viper check your xorg.conf
[01:30] <viper550> no
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, usually it does
[01:30] <mic21> bulmer: yes
[01:30] <viper550> how can
[01:30] <branden> could be a resolution issue
[01:30] <gojita> viper550, I had the same issue, still do.  Moving the cursor makes the monitor come out of standby
[01:31] <viper550> It didn't ask for resolution in the installer
[01:31] <gojita> *only on install
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: did what i suggested work?
[01:31] <lastk> how to install a application  from apt-get in /home ?
[01:31] <bulmer> mic21-> is rpc.statd running?
[01:31] <LjL> lastk: can't.
[01:31] <jrib> lastk: why do you want to?
[01:31] <mic21> bulmer: on the clients ?
[01:31] <bulmer> mic21-> yes
[01:31] <lastk> jrib : without space in partition... just space free in /home =/
[01:32] <dmitrig01> Pelo: could you find a link to the mac download?
[01:32] <scguy318> lastk: resize / then
[01:32] <viper550> I'm getting out my Slax disc
[01:32] <Pelo> dmitrig01, me neither,  I think you might have to settle for 6.06, hold on
[01:32] <dmitrig01> that's ok
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: its an unsupported project now, but Ubuntu Gutsy is available for Mac hardware
[01:33] <Pelo> dmitrig01, do you prefer torrent or direct ?
[01:33] <branden> SO who is willing to help me with a vsftpd issue with trying to connect through a browesr instead of term
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: have you considered pure debian?...
[01:33] <dmitrig01> IndyGunFreak: I want ubntu
[01:33] <kelsin> lastk: apps don't go all in one directory, they go all over, and depend on those locations
[01:33] <dmitrig01> Pelo: torrent
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: ok.
[01:33] <Pelo> dmitrig01, http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso.torrent
[01:33] <lastk> scguy318 : what is this make?
[01:33] <dmitrig01> well give me both pls and I'll see which one is faster
[01:33] <dmitrig01> Pelo: thanks
[01:33] <Pelo> dmitrig01, http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso
[01:33] <dmitrig01> Pelo: thanks
[01:33] <vonehle> OK, finally got to the sudo gedit screen.  Under Modes in the Screen section, there are 6 choices listed, but those choices are not all listed in the drop box when I want to change screen resolutions
[01:33] <viper550> got out my Slax live cd
[01:33] <siccness_> Anyone ever built freeradius from source under ubuntu?
[01:34] <Pelo> dmitrig01,  for future use http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/
[01:34] <branden> dimitrig01: ARe you running windows as we speak?
[01:34] <dmitrig01> Pelo: thanks so much
[01:34] <dmitrig01> branden: mac
[01:34] <viper550> so, where do I check?
[01:34] <dmitrig01> branden: I have two macs, one new and the other very old
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: you can find gutsy for mac hardware, dapper is gettin old.
[01:35] <Pelo> dmitrig01,  I noticed I gave you the alternate cd links,  you can find the live cd ( desktop) ones on the last link if you prefer
[01:35] <branden> dimitri: just download ubuntu and burn it to a medium
[01:35] <foo> audacity records/plays back audio twice as fast. any ideas? i can't find anything, been all over preferences and google
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> branden: he needs it for mac hardware
[01:35] <branden> AH
[01:35] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, dapper will be supported for years yet, I'd rather have him on dapper then try to trouble shoot an unstable gutsy
[01:35] <branden> Ah*
[01:35] <kelsin> foo: if it's twice as fast it might be playing sound at 44.1 when your sound card only supports 22hz or something
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol
[01:35] <Pelo> on hardware I don'T know no less
[01:35] <IamReck> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8cS1AkqiI awesome first comment.
[01:36] <kelsin> foo: make sure all audio settings are correct
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: but when Dapper gets dropped, he'll have no optionsm, since Ubuntu no longer supports mac
[01:36] <dmitrig01> branden: I have two Macs.  I am operating normal mac stuff on the newer one.  I'd like to try linux for the second
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> thats why i suggest debian, as it seems it will have a mac version forever.
[01:36] <dav1> hello guys, i deinstalled compiz and domino and esemerald and now i cannot change my resolution, does anybody know why?
[01:36] <foo> kelsin: they are
[01:36] <foo> kelsin: what settings?
[01:36] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: "forever" is a long time...
[01:37] <DM|> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server --- for reconfiguring xserver right? i always forget
[01:37] <LjL> DM|: xserver-xorg
[01:37] <vonehle> In windows you can press the tab key to move between controls.  This doesn't seem to work for Ubuntu.  Is there a different way?
[01:37] <DM|> thanks
[01:37] <kelsin> foo: I just said, some sort of setting might be set to the wrong hz value, you'd have to play with them, I don't know your system or soundcard, or audacity off hand
[01:37] <kelsin> foo: but normally sound 1/2 as fast or 2x as fast is due to wrong Hz settings
[01:37] <Pelo> vonehle, try the arrow keys
[01:37] <dmitrig01> I'm fine with using something unsupported
[01:37] <abcde_> IndyGunFreak, dmitrig01, you mean a PPC version.  The new mac I'd assume to be intel, the older one is PowerPC.
[01:37] <dmitrig01> it's not going to become my main compter
[01:37] <dmitrig01> abcde_: yes
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> abcde_: yes,
[01:37] <dmitrig01> abcde_: I want linux on ppc
[01:37] <viper550> on gutsy, where is xorg.conf?
[01:38] <dmitrig01> it's a g4
 yellow dog linux
[01:38] <dmitrig01> viper550: what's that?
[01:38] <abcde_> dmitrig01, There is a PPC version, not sure if you'd want to do Ubuntu.  I was just going to say YDL.
[01:38] <viper550> Linux distro made specifically for Apple platform
[01:38] <hellsdark> viper550: /ETC/x11/
[01:38] <mic21> bulmer: I can't check now because I am not in the office but I know that I have installed nfs-common and portmap on the clients. The problem is appeared when we have change the address from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>. We have restarted the server but we can see some old entries in /var/lib/nfs/rmtab.
[01:38] <viper550> But it's Fedora based
[01:38] <abcde_> dmitrig01, Redhat for PPC more or less.
[01:38] <Dr_willis>  -/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <kelsin> viper550: same place as always /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <Pelo> dmitrig01, you'll have to ask IndyGunFreak for a link to gutsy for ppc I have no idea where t get it from
[01:38] <dmitrig01> ah
[01:38] <branden> dimitri: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/release.1/ has mac iso's its a bit older but once its installed you can dist-upgrade
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol
[01:38] <dmitrig01> I want ubuntu!
[01:38] <foo> kelsin: oh, I've played with everything.  I cant change resolutions to anything above 800x600, anyone help?
[01:40] <mic21> bulmer: some client address with old address 10.0.0.*
[01:40] <Pelo> dmj what driver are you running atm ?
[01:40] <abcde_> dmitrig01, Just for future reference, if you need to install Ubuntu somewhere, you can usually do Debian -> Ubuntu, since Debian is more versatile on what it can install on.  Then you get Ubuntu with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:40] <dmitrig01> ok
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: did you get that link i sent?
[01:41] <branden> Hey did ya get that thing I sent ya?
[01:41] <minimec> dav1: Have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Check the "Screen" Section. There You find the actual resolution of your graphical module.
[01:41] <dmitrig01> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:41] <LjL> abcde_: that's kind of... very... unsupported, though :)
[01:41] <kelsin> abcde_: it might be possible, but definately not supported
[01:41] <kelsin> abcde_: lots of things could break
[01:41] <dmitrig01> IndyGunFreak: now I need to download it and then figure out how to make a bootable CD
[01:41] <bulmer> mic21-> on your server side, you also tell which host or network can connect
[01:41] <DM|> Pelo Nvidia
[01:41] <Gate> anyonw help with fixing a dead function key?(works in other OSes)
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> dmitrig01: now that i can't help you with, mac's are foriegn to me
[01:41] <vonehle> My xorg.conf Screen settings list 6 different resolutions, but my System>Preferences>Screen Resolution only offers 2.  What can I do?
[01:41] <dmitrig01> IndyGunFreak: darn
[01:41] <viper550> I have an hp f1503 monitor if that helps
[01:41] <dmitrig01> any macies here?
[01:41] <Pelo> dmitrig01,  you just need to "burn an image" using your cd burning prog
[01:41] <dmitrig01> ok
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> vonehle: i've told yuou 4x what to try, and you've not said once wether it worked
[01:42] <mic21> bulmer: my entry in the exports file is /home/ldap  <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[01:42] <abcde_> LjL, kelsin I know, I just mean if you HAVE to.  I have one machine I need netbooting to install on, and I find it easier to get Debian then Ubuntu on it to upgrade.
[01:42] <vonehle> You told me to try to drag the screen
[01:42] <vonehle> I told you that didn't work
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> no i didn't
[01:42] <Pelo> dmj there is an nvidia setting  package in the repos
[01:42] <branden> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is the command to change your res
[01:42] <DM|> brb
[01:42] <abcde_> dmitrig01, Open Disk Utility, and drag the iso under your HD's, then put a blank in
[01:42] <abcde_> dmitrig01, and click Burn
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> usually when this has happened to me before, movin the top panel, and moving the window up just a hair, allows me to see the buttons at the bottom.
[01:42] <dmitrig01> abcde_: thanks
[01:42] <bulmer> mic21-> you have to add your 10.x.x.x users too
[01:43] <kelsin> abcde_: if ubuntu won't run, and debian does then you're better off sticking with debian, installing ubuntu packages on debian is risky, and completely overwriting all debian packages with ubuntu will have the same problems as the original ubuntu install
[01:43] <Dukke> my ubuntu is 7.04  he don't start if i try to use the last version of ubuntu i have to del all?
[01:43]  * Pelo is on his second attempt trying to watch  Robin Hood 2x09, and is still getting distracted by the stuff in the channel
[01:44] <abcde_> kelsin, Oh, works on the laptop, but I guess it's because the only reason Ubuntu has issues is the install, not the Hardware.
[01:44] <vonehle> that did not move it enough
[01:44] <mic21> bulmer: but they don't exist anymore, is it a "trick" to clean the table ?
[01:44] <Pelo> Dukke,  are you getting an error msg ?
[01:44] <ubuntu_sucks> hello
[01:44] <Pelo> !br | Dukke
[01:44] <ubotu> Dukke: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:44] <ubuntu_sucks> does ubuntu support mouse?
[01:44] <Pelo> ubuntu_sucks, try changing your nick please
[01:44] <branden> Dukke try installing a different build like xubuntu or kubuntu and reinstall ubuntu in term sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol
[01:44] <ubuntu_sucks> Pelo: but it is so true, ubuntu failed to show me a mouse cursor
[01:44] <LjL> does ubuntu support trolls? no, see you in some other channel ubuntu_sucks
[01:44] <ubuntu_sucks> I loaded 7.10 amd64 lcd
[01:45] <ubuntu_sucks> cd
[01:45] <bulmer> mic21-> i dont know, you can try cleaning up that rmtab file
[01:45] <dmitrig01> suckage = !ubuntu_sucks
[01:45] <mic21> bulmer: do you think that the time out could come from those old entries ?
[01:45] <Dukke> Pelo really stranger say like this "apt-get no found" try apt-get install apt apt-get command not found "
[01:46] <Dukke> Pelo after my memory ram crash
[01:46] <branden> DUkke try "aptitude"
[01:46] <H264_laptop> well, I'm going to shower... if anybody needs me then too bad
[01:46] <bulmer> mic21-> i think the time out is because you set sync instead of async, if network is faulty it can hang the connectivity
[01:46] <PirateHead> branden: Why would aptitude not crash if apt-get did?
[01:46] <PirateHead> branden: They both use apt...
[01:46] <Pelo> Dukke, your install got borked, for some reason,  you will need to reinstall , use the live cd to back up your /home fiolder so yo don't loose your data
[01:46] <branden> PirateHead it was a suggestion dont be noob
[01:46] <Sturm> how do I install the alternate gimp icons?
[01:47]  * Pelo is happy H264_laptop  is going to shower, it was getting a bit rank in here
[01:47] <mic21> bulmer: the network is good, everything else works "fine" (1Gbps, cat 6 RJ45 cable).
[01:47] <Dukke> ok gonna download the last version..
[01:47] <PirateHead> Sturm: You might want to ask in #gimp if you don't find somebody what that info here.
[01:47] <Pelo> Sturm,  do you mean the tool icons in gimp itself or the app icon ?
[01:47] <Pelo> Dukke, best of luck
[01:48] <Dukke> thank you
[01:48] <Dukke> :D
[01:48] <Sturm> I meant the grayscale icons I downloaded off the gimp site
[01:48] <Sturm> since I dont really like the colorful icons
[01:48] <Sturm> no one is on #gimp
[01:48] <Pelo> Sturm,  ask in #gimp,  but I think there is a place in preferences where you can specify a path
[01:48] <PirateHead> Sturm: Ah. What you do is rename or delete the old ones and replace them with the new ones.
[01:49] <bulmer> mic21-> how do you make sure none of the bits ever flipped? at 1Gbps ..i would not trust it myself
[01:49] <Pelo> Sturm, #gimp-users
[01:49] <PirateHead> Sturm: As Pelo suggests, there might be a config file or preferences panel where you could specify a new path. If not, you'll just have to mess with the innards.
[01:49] <kriel> ... zombie processes are bad, aren't they?
[01:50] <PirateHead> kriel: Not bad as in freak out, but they aren't helpful.
[01:50] <Pelo> kriel, not bad persay
[01:50] <bulmer> mic21-> try it other than sync and see if it makes a difference
[01:50] <Sturm> gimp users is dead too
[01:50] <mic21> bulmer: because before the change to <IP_ADDRESS> it was working well, we never had had timeout.
[01:50] <PirateHead> Sturm: Pose your question and wait awhile. Somebody will probably come check it out at some point.
[01:50] <Pelo> Sturm, start the gimp , click the help menu , do a search
[01:50] <kriel> ... Okay, then how would I go about killing zombies? I know, aim for the head and use shotguns. How about something a little more peaceful (and probably effective)
[01:50] <PirateHead> kriel: are you okay with using the command line?
[01:51] <kelsin> kriel: do you mean zombie processes that list as "Z" in a ps command?
[01:51] <kriel> PirateHead: yup.
[01:51] <bulmer> mic21-> i dont know then, you have to troubleshoot more
[01:51] <kriel> kelsin: as in system>admin>system monitor lists them as zombie
[01:51] <Pelo> kriel, kill the parent process if it is a dependency,  check the dependency box in the menu , if you re using the system monitor
[01:51] <branden> WHere art thou Pelo!?
[01:51] <PirateHead> kriel: Run ps (or ps aux or ps auxwww) and filter the output with grep to find your zombies
[01:51]  * Pelo art barely here
[01:51] <branden> AYe
[01:51] <PirateHead> kriel: Then use awk to find the process IDs, then use xargs kill to kill them al
[01:51] <PirateHead> all*
[01:52] <branden> hey you familiar with vsftpd?
[01:52] <Pelo> branden, why do you ask ?
[01:52] <Pelo> branden, no I am not
[01:52] <Sturm> help doesn't work
[01:52] <branden> argen
[01:52] <branden> argh*
[01:53]  * Pelo makes a note, turn off xchat while watching vids
[01:53] <branden> I dont know, I set up a vsftpd last night and it worked fine, I was trying to connect through a browser and it worked once with the login after that it just went kuput on me, so I snarled and raged and pillaged
[01:53] <branden>  /sigh
[01:53] <mic21> bulmer: ok, i will try the clear the table and to change sync to async. thank you for you help ;)
[01:53] <kriel> PirateHead: mind PM's?
[01:54] <bulmer> mic21-> okay, you're welcome
[01:54] <PirateHead> !pm | kriel
[01:54] <ubotu> kriel: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:54] <Pelo> branden, look for a forum for the app or a channel for it
[01:54] <DM|> So anyone have any ideas why My compy refuses to let me change to the correct resolution
[01:54] <ehc> I am installing zope and ran 	nc -z -v -w2 localhost 1-65535 to scan for ports. I choose one of the open ports from the scan but it just loads and loads in my browser forever. Do I need to restart the port or something?
[01:54] <PirateHead> kriel: You get points for asking though. :-)
[01:54] <branden> I did, I left at hread on the ubuntu forums and its been 3 days unanswered
[01:55] <Pelo> DM|, check in the forum there is away to do it , it is realted to yoru nvidia card,  search for nvidia resolution you'll find it, you are not the first one with this issue,  I'm pretty sure the otehrs have solved it
[01:55] <kriel> PirateHead: hehe. Thanks. Okay, okay... you said to use some utilities that i've never dealt with before. what's ps, what's aux, and... -reads up- what am i filtering for with grep (I've actually used that one!)
[01:55] <Pelo> branden, did you search the forum ? usualy more helpfull then posting
[01:55] <gojita> hey I want to compile wine... How can I make it check deps?
[01:55] <DM|> Pelo whats funny is its been working for every release till bullet proof X was introduced.
[01:56] <branden> Yeah but thosse peoples posts werent relevant to the issue I was having
[01:56] <bit0> gojita: use "Debian-way"
[01:56] <Pelo> gojita, wait a few days,  there will be a .deb package for the latest one
[01:56] <kelsin> kriel: ps will list processes, once you see the zombie one you can just type "kill <pid>" to kill it, if that doesn't work you can try "kill -9 <pid>" or "sudo kill <pid>" and "sudo kill -9 <pid"
[01:56] <PirateHead> kriel: ps is a program that lists running processes.
[01:56] <operator011> Does anyone know what configuration file in Ubuntu-server 7.10 controls the size of the stdout terminal buffer (currently it's 80x25=640x480), but my screen size is 1024x768
[01:56] <Pelo> DM|, I'm out of suggestion then
[01:56] <PirateHead> kriel: "ps auxwww" is a command that lists out all the data about all the processes that are running
[01:56] <kelsin> kriel: if it's an actual zombie process according to the kernel (with a Z flag in the ps output) you might not be able to kill it
[01:56] <lastk> hi, how to make for to show the spaces used and  avaibles in my partitions?
[01:57] <branden> I mean when I started the server I ran "netstat -a | grep ftp" and it says its listening so I know its working, but when it comes to trying to log into it through the browser using an external IP all hell breaks loose
[01:57] <Pelo> lastk, menu > system > admin > system monitor  last tab
[01:57] <gojita> the compile one says that opengl libraries are needed, if I do it the debain way and "WAIT", will those deps be installed as well?
[01:57] <LjL> lastk: df
[01:57] <Pelo> gojita, yes it will
[01:58] <branden> I can ftp://localhost and it goes through, as in logs in, but if I try ftp://<my ip> nothing
[01:58] <PirateHead> kriel: Once you run ps auxwww, you should be able to find the process IDs of the zombie processes. However, you can automate that by finding them using grep.
[01:58] <gojita> *rather: ./configure --verbose
[01:58] <branden> farts on that I guess
[01:58] <kriel> ooh, here's a fun one. ps dosen't spit out the name of my zombie processes. it only lists ps and bash.
[01:58] <Pelo> gojita,  you are doing this because you want the very latest right ? you are not jsut trying out wine for the first time right ?
[01:58] <bit0> gojita: get sources (apt-src) and build it (look debian.org documentation)
[01:58] <gojita> I want this because I want the very latest, yes
[01:58] <branden> Pelo im so glad you mentions wine, I have to instal cs
[01:58] <branden> =P
[01:59] <kelsin> kriel: "ps aux" or "ps -ef"
[01:59] <PirateHead> kriel: That is probably because you aren't passing the right command to ps. Try typing the command "ps auxwww"
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gojita: Bleeding edge comes at a price.. What feature in particular are you trying to add..
[01:59] <PirateHead> kelsin, kriel: the problem with ps aux is that it limits its output to your terminal size to make things "prettier". It isn't suitable for parsing.
[01:59] <Pelo> gojita, just wait a couple of days,  they guy that makes the deb is usualy pretty quick , I woudlnt, be surprised if it was out tomorow
[01:59] <neur1> how do I get conky to run in openbox-gnome?
[01:59] <kriel> kelsin: the first time i did that it just spit out a help file mabob...
[02:00] <DM|> pelo do you have an nvidia card?
[02:00] <lastk> LjL : thanks
[02:00] <runlevel> ok i keep having this gnome issue. just reinstalled with arch64 and when i try to start gnome-terminal.. it wont load...i had this problem in a few other 64bit distros.. anyone know whats up?
[02:00] <krammer> which program do I user for burning dvds?
[02:00] <Pelo> DM|,  no I don'T just a plain old , working , intel 856 g
[02:00] <DM|> haha
[02:00] <DM|> working, yeah..
[02:00] <gojita> I want to see what they've done new, I want to check if there is a new interface, and new functionality to aid in perhaps making wine programs (like mIRC) more like the theme in Gnome
[02:00] <DM|> brb
[02:01] <gojita> bit0, thanks for advice
[02:01] <bit0> gojita: download wine sources  (apt-src install wine) ...
[02:01] <darkmatter> gojita: wine supports .msstyles. just not fully. some widgets don't skin
[02:02] <bit0> gojita: and try to rebuild it
[02:02] <gojita> bit0, thanks again, 5 minutes of research saved
[02:02] <LjL> darkmatter: and it's sloooow
[02:02] <bit0> gojita: :)
[02:02] <kriel> okay. I cheated and found the pid using system monitor (2015) and kill 2015 dosen't do anything. All the rest are sleeping. (cept the monitor itself_
[02:02] <darkmatter> LjL depends on the theme, but yeah
[02:02] <krammer> which program do I user for burning dvds?
[02:02] <mic21> bulmer: I forget to say about an error (on ther server) when we restart the NFS server (with dmesg) : lockd_down: lockd failed to exit, clearing pid - nfsd: last server has exited - nfsd: unexporting all filesystems
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> k3b
[02:02] <kelsin> kriel: does ps list it as a zombie? Z in the status columb?
[02:02] <kelsin> column*
[02:03] <racarter> is w32codecs still in the medibuntu repository?
[02:03] <eltux> I can't get wine to reinstall right, I had tried to upgrade to 9.50 and it went batty so I tried to remove it and now when I reinstall it, It doesn't run at all
[02:03] <kSid> #offtopic
[02:03] <LjL> racarter: i think so
[02:03] <bulmer> mic21-> if there was a lockfile remove it and restart nfs-server
[02:04] <kelsin> eltux: make sure to clear out your .wine folder also when changing wine versions
[02:04] <eltux> :\
[02:04] <kriel> kelsin: 2015 status: Zl+
[02:04] <kelsin> kriel: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html you can probably log out and log back in to clear it, but kill and sudo kill and sudo kill -9 might not do it
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gojita: just looking at eltux and thinking that might be you tomorrow
[02:04] <eltux> kelsin: should I just delete it?
[02:04] <manduski> hey guys, i'm trying to install the new ubuntu on my desktop and i'm stuck on the "Preparing Partitions" part. I have a windows partition and i'm trying to join two others that are labeled "free space" but i can't seem to do that
[02:04] <gojita> Lol!
[02:04] <kelsin> eltux: if you don't have any programs installed that you NEED to keep in there yes
[02:04] <viper550> Got it
[02:05] <kelsin> gojita: you're giving away a lot of usefullness just to learn something that is in the changelog on the wine website
[02:05] <viper550> I set my display driver to use VESA instead of ATI, and it works now
[02:05] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, they say its the new release but when you download the package and install it, it says that its beta software yet
[02:05] <mic21> bulmer: which lockfile ? in the /var/lib/nfs directory ?
[02:05] <manduski> i want to leave the windows partition alone and create one partition for the filesystem and another one for the swap but i can't seem to be able to combine them
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:05] <kSid> manduski: Goodluck with that ^o)
[02:05] <kelsin> eltux: wine has been in beta forever, it hasn't had a "stable" release yet
[02:05] <manduski> kSid: why, is taht impossible?
[02:06] <Pelo> manduski, what do you want to combine ?
[02:06] <bulmer> mic21-> i would think it is in /var/lock not in /var/lib/nfs
[02:06] <gojita> kelsin, I can't understand alot of the terminology they use in the changelog (like... whats Completed I/O completion. or More Valgrinding. mean)
[02:06] <kriel> erf. Thank you kelsin and PirateHead.
[02:06] <kelsin> gojita: then it probably doesn't have new features like you want
[02:06] <manduski> pelo: i have these"
[02:06] <eltux> kelsin: yeah no kiddin. 0.9.50 still has some major problems though. Steam doesn't work right with it yet
[02:06] <kSid> manduski: Last time I tried that it corrupted my windows partition because it got stuck half way and then when I rebooted into vista, it said the drive is full
[02:06] <kelsin> eltux: hence the continuous term of "beta"
[02:06] <manduski> pelo: i have these two "free space" partitions that i want to combine
[02:06] <PirateHead> kriel: No problem, kriel.
[02:06] <kSid> manduski: But then I used the Vista partition manager to save my computer :)
[02:07] <Pelo> manduski,  you need to delete the aprtitons first
[02:07] <Pelo> manduski,  you can'T combine them
[02:07] <manduski> pelo: i did delete them, that's why they say free space
[02:07]  * IndyGunFreak thinks, "There's an oxymoron, using Vista to save a computer"
[02:07] <bit0> manduski: partitions is no "easy", be patient
[02:07] <manduski> pelo: why can't you combine them
[02:07] <kelsin> eltux: it's an extremely ambitious program, that also depends on how well written the program you're trying to run is programmed. It's incredible enough as it is, I can run wow and warIII with no issues, I love it :)
[02:07] <gojita> kelsin, good point, BUT I have to say this, I am aimless right now, and am looking to learn and be amused at the latest and greatest.  Just as long as it doesn't break my system
[02:07] <eltux> kelsin: I just did what you said, and now the program that i choose to install it with (wine doors) is crapping out on me
[02:07] <scguy318> gojita: Completed I/O completion = they finished the code to support Windows I/O completion
[02:07] <Pelo> manduski, so apply the change and tghen you can make a new partition in the free space
[02:07] <Pelo> manduski,  not the same FS
[02:08] <scguy318> gojita: More Valgrinding = they fixed more memory leaks they found through Valgrind
[02:08] <petr4> hello. In "vi" editor in 7.10 undo (U command) does not work. It just switches between two last version of the file
[02:08] <kelsin> eltux: you're installing wine with winedoors?
[02:08] <kSid> IndyGunFreak: I'm sorry, but Vista > ubuntu on this laptop.
[02:08] <mic21> bulmer: in /var/lock, I just have two empty directories "apache2" and "lvm"; I found an other lock file called /proc/lock, but I don't think it is that.
[02:08] <kelsin> eltux: or wine doors is crapping out with the wine from the ubuntu repos?
[02:08] <eltux> kelsin: yeah, it was just easier at the time
[02:08] <gojita> scguy318,  Thanks! ^_^
[02:08] <Pelo> ATTENTION PPL WHO WANT TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THE LATEST WINE RELEASE THERE IS A #winehq
[02:08] <kSid> Indygunfreak: Ubuntu doesn't even support half of my drivers, I've tried Ubuntu, Suse, and Fedora
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> kSid: i guess we all have uses for something windows makes.
[02:08] <eltux> kelsin: yeah I have the package on my computer and its going batty when it tries to configure it
[02:09] <kSid> IndyGunFreak: :)
[02:09] <bulmer> mic21-> lock files are normally in /var/lock
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> kSid: thats not a lack of Ubuntu support, thats the hardware manufacturers not making linux drivers
[02:09] <kelsin> eltux: if you're dealing with a wine from winedoors or ANYWHERE other than the ubuntu repos you need to go to them and ask, even if you are it's probably good to ask the wine people
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> kelsin: if hardware manufacturers didn't make windows drivers, they wouldn't work in Windows Vista either
[02:09] <gojita> scguy318, kelsin then I likely dont need the latest and greatest, since wait... memory leaks?  thats nifty
[02:09] <kelsin> kSid: you should make better choices in laptop purchases then
[02:09] <eltux> kelsin: it still grabs wine from the ubuntu repos
[02:09] <scguy318> gojita: of course not, better to stick with a Wine version that works for you
[02:09] <mic21> bulmer: when I stop the NFS server, the lockd process are still alive.
[02:10] <kelsin> eltux: and does other stuff
[02:10] <eltux> kelsin: all it does is prompts the install of wine and comes with the configuration tool (wine doors)
[02:10] <atouk> where is teh default fonts folder
[02:10] <eltux> kelsin: it just makes it easier to install stuff
[02:10] <kelsin> eltux: well passed clearing your home dir I don't have any ideas why you're app isn't working
[02:10] <bulmer> mic21-> so it means its got the lock file stored somewhere else
[02:10]  * Pelo starts makeing a list of ppl to kick forward to #winehq
[02:10] <kelsin> eltux: *and by that I mean clearing the .wine folder of course, not your whole home dir
[02:10]  * gojita raises hand
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:11] <eltux> kelsin: well, sudo apt-get remove wine again right? and I'll try deleting .wine again
[02:12] <jrib> Pelo: ?
[02:12] <Pelo> no idea what just happend
[02:12] <btard> a game I am trying to run is performing very poorly. do any of you have any tips for making it run better (drivers, optimizations, etc). it is called frets on fire
[02:13]  * IndyGunFreak wonders if Pelo is trying to crash #ubuntu
[02:13] <kelsin> btard: what video card?
[02:13] <btard> radeon 9200
[02:13] <viper550> I ended up getting it to work
[02:13] <eltux> kelsin: i tried to reinstall steam from my installer and its giving me a wierd cryptic error
[02:13] <kelsin> btard: make sure you have accelerated rending working, past that I don't have any ideas :-(
[02:14] <cabroni_> how can i install and run Crystal Space????
[02:14] <kelsin> eltux: I already said I don't have any more ideas for you, esp with steam as I have never used it (or ever will)
[02:14] <btard> kelsin: how would I check that? and thanks for helping :]
[02:14] <scguy318> eltux: check the AppDb
[02:14] <cabroni_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                                          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:14] <scguy318> eltux: you really should install Steam with a clean Wine directory
[02:14] <Pelo> cabroni_,  what is crystal space ?
[02:14] <eltux> scguy318: oh its clean alright
[02:14] <Pelo> and cabroni_  dont do that again
[02:14] <denisbr> Hello All
[02:14] <kelsin> btard: "glxinfo | grep -i direct"
[02:15] <cabroni_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Space  i have some problems with install it
[02:15] <denisbr> Have any method of the to install packages without internet conection, for example, using others CDs ?
[02:15] <grampa> Does Wine run .msi files?
[02:15] <btard> glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:15] <kelsin> cabroni_: "sudo apt-get install crystalspace" is a good start, after that you should read their docs and instructions
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !info crystalspace
[02:15] <ubotu> crystalspace: Multiplatform 3D Game Development Kit. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 38139 kB, installed size 94956 kB
[02:16] <kelsin> grampa: you have to install the windows installer program, I dno't know where to get it, and newer versions don't always work
[02:16] <racarter> it looks like i have medibuntu repository set up, but i keep getting the error that w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:16] <Pelo> cabroni_, first check in the repos  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[02:16] <grampa> kelsin: Ok, thanks
[02:16] <Pici> racarter: Are you on 32bits or 64bits?
[02:16] <jrib> denisbr: aptoncd or apt-zip for example
[02:16] <scguy318> grampa: yes, wine start msifile
[02:16] <scguy318> kelsin: no
[02:16] <jrib> !aptoncd > denisbr (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:16] <scguy318> kelsin: Wine has support for executing MSIs
[02:16] <cabroni_> thanks
[02:16] <kelsin> btard: yeah you def don't have any type of 3d acceleration working, look into installing good ati drivers, I have NO experience with ATI though, so good luck
[02:16] <kelsin> scguy318: learn something new everyday :)
[02:16] <scguy318> kelsin: AppDb is your friend :)
[02:17] <mic21> bulmer: ok I will search for it; if I can't solve the problem, do you think using NFS4 may solve it ? it is as stable as NFSv3 on gusty ?
[02:17] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:17] <DM|> Pelo every single post online tells me to do the same thing,
[02:17] <scguy318> night
[02:17] <kelsin> scguy318: well if I was trying to run an msi file I would be looking there not asking people with old info in this channel ;-)
[02:18] <denisbr> jrib: thanks ... but, then I need do the download of the packages, ubuntu not offer cds with packages, how eg. the mandriva and slackware
[02:18] <DM|> pelo and every single one of those people respond that it doesnt work
[02:18] <scguy318> kelsin: lol :)
[02:18] <jrib> denisbr: the dvd has the main and restricted repositories, but not universe and multiverse
[02:18] <Pelo> DM|, I suggest you review the instructions and try to figure out what is wrong with them , I can't help anymore
[02:18] <Xdange1> guys i dont know but my trackerd process is causing my cpu usage to be at 70-90%
[02:18] <Pelo> g'night all
[02:19] <scguy318> Xdange1: its indexing, it'll do that for a bit intially, then wont bug again
[02:19] <DM|> Anyone here have Nvidia that refuses to change to default resolution on bootup , but I can change it with Nvidia settings, but not with GNOME management
[02:19] <denisbr> jrib: very good, then, the DVD is more complete. Where I found a list of the packages in the DVD ?
[02:19] <Xdange1> Xdange1: its been doing that for a while now
[02:19] <jrib> denisbr: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <bulmer> mic21-> i dont know ..umm gutsy is stable?
[02:20] <Xdange1> its slowing up everyting else
[02:20] <denisbr> jrib: thaniks
[02:20] <jrib> denisbr: anything from main or restricted afaik
[02:20] <racarter> Pici, i think i am on 64 bits
[02:20] <scguy318> Xdange1: you can go into indexing prefs if you want to stop it
[02:20] <racarter> how can i verify that?
[02:20] <EdwardXP> can someone help me out with a terminal color issue
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: well if you can change it w/ nvidia settings, does it really mjatter that you can't change it w/ gnome?
[02:20] <Pici> racarter: whats the output of uname -a
[02:21] <DM|> IndyGunFreak do you really want to change yhe resolution EVERY single time you boot up ?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: ok, i see now.. good point.
[02:21] <racarter>  2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:21] <kelsin> EdwardXP: you should just ask your question, if someone can, they will help
[02:21] <racarter> would it be w64codecs for me?
[02:21] <DM|> IndyGunFreak this is a ubuntu problem unfortunately, nothing wrong with my video card or its driver, they borked something bad
[02:21] <scguy318> racarter: yep
[02:21] <racarter> thanks
[02:21] <kazol> What's the file with .bash_history logging exceptions? For example, so I could specify to not log commands with the string "cd".
[02:21] <EdwardXP> edward@Laptopxp:~/Desktop/MISC MUSIC$ /usr/games/fortune
[02:21] <EdwardXP> Your love life will be happy and harmonious.
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: you could try messing with xorg, but i know little about that.., you could try reconfiguring xorg, and when it asks about the resolution you want, set it to use the one you want.
[02:22] <RAdams> Does anyone know how to use a key created in Seahorse with Evolution?
[02:22] <DM|> IndyGunFreak did that
[02:22] <Xdange1> i noticed that with my laptop charger pluged in trackerd process is causing cpu usage to be high, around 70-90%
[02:22] <soberon> Good night... I have a digital camera that when is pluged via USB is mounted; but if I insert a memorycard to the camera an plug via USB it is not mounted. I read some about a bug... Please Can you help me?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: don't know then
[02:22] <EdwardXP> there both white in the terminal, i want to my sh bang i think its caled to be white and the output to be a different color like green
[02:22] <kelsin> DM|: doesn't nvidia-settings have a button to save it's config to xorg.conf?
[02:22] <EdwardXP> so i can define the two
[02:22] <DM|> kelsin not properly
[02:22] <EdwardXP> anyone know how to do that?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: it works fine for me.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> DM|:  are you using sudo?
[02:23] <RAdams> EdwardXP: are you using gnome-terminal?
[02:23] <kelsin> EdwardXP: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[02:23] <Xdange1> i noticed that with my laptop charger pluged in trackerd process is causing cpu usage to be high, around 70-90%
[02:23] <mic21> bulmer: I will try if it doesn't work ... I have an other problem : with PAM, i am not able to use the pam_group.so plugin to attach local group to my ldap users ...
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> thats probably the issue right there.
[02:23] <DM|> IndyGunFreak yep
[02:23] <racarter> can i use opera on 64 bits?
[02:23] <scguy318> Xdange1: as I said before, if you want to stop the indexing, go to Indexing Preferences
[02:23] <EdwardXP> RAdams,  yah
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: hmm, well if you used sudo nvidia-settings  then set the resolution you wanted, and saved it, then it should work finem
[02:23] <kelsin> EdwardXP: that doc will let you know how to color the bash prompt, but yeah gnome terminal settings like RAdams is getting at will set the default colors
[02:23] <RAdams> EdwardXP: Edit --> Current Profile
[02:24] <kelsin> DM|: how not?
[02:24] <bulmer> mic21-> am not familiar with using ldap's as authentication system
[02:24] <RAdams> But as kelsin said, you can do it with your bash configs as well
[02:24] <EdwardXP> im in there :(
[02:24] <EdwardXP> i guess i have to tinker with it still
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> DM|: you're sure you used sudo nvidia-settings?
[02:24] <kelsin> EdwardXP: that will let you set the main color to green, to change the color of the prompt and other stuff you might need to edit your bash prompt
[02:24] <RAdams> Anyone know how to use a key created in Seahorse with Evolution?
[02:24] <mic21> bulmer: okey, btw thanks a lot for all the details and idea you found ;)
[02:25] <kelsin> RAdams: ssh or gpg?
[02:25] <DM|> IndyGunFreak yes, its something with ubuntu , alot of people are having this problem
[02:25] <bulmer> mic21->  no problem
[02:25] <DM|> Indygunfreak brb
[02:25] <EdwardXP> lete see
[02:25] <Highlife> Hey guys I'm not getting any audio out of vlc or mplayer
[02:25] <kelsin> RAdams: ahhh didn't read your whole line, you said with evolution :) don't use evolution so I don't know, good luck
[02:26] <invitado_> hola
[02:26] <Chris_2k> good morning^^
[02:26] <invitado_> helo
[02:27] <kelsin> Highlife: it's a stupid question but is the volume up on everything needed? (Right click on the speaker in the system tray and click "Open Volume Control") and make sure stuff isn't muted, low volume
[02:27] <invitado_> hola me llamo mariano al alguien??
[02:27] <invitado_> hola
[02:27] <Highlife> kelsin: yes it is
[02:27] <scguy318> !es | invitado_
[02:27] <ubotu> invitado_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:27] <proqesi> !nvidia
[02:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:27] <invitado_> holo
[02:28] <kelsin> Highlife: sound works in most other programs?
[02:28] <scguy318> invitado: para ayudar en espanol, type /join #ubuntu-es
[02:28] <invitado_> mi name is mariano
[02:28] <Highlife> I have a dell 1520 and I had to use the sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic to get it to work
[02:28] <scguy318> invitado: ya comprendo :) type /join #ubuntu-es para ayudar en espanol
[02:28] <Highlife> but the sound works fine in xine
[02:29] <Highlife> and rythmbox
[02:29] <Highlife> is this even and alsa problem?
[02:29] <kelsin> Highlife: did you install the vlc-plugin-alsa package?
[02:29] <Highlife> kelsin: let me check
[02:30] <bloony> software for mounting cue/bin files anyone?
[02:30] <scguy318> bloony: fuseiso kinda comes to mind, might be able to
[02:30] <doctorzongo> i dont think so
[02:30] <bloony> scguy318: k
[02:30] <doctorzongo> it wont work
[02:31] <DM|> Ok... well I backed up my XORG file to my previous working xorg file and my resolution still refuses to change in gnome
[02:31] <bloony> doctorzongo: aah
[02:31] <bloony> k
[02:31] <doctorzongo> no you didnt
[02:31] <bloony> anyone else?
[02:31] <doctorzongo> and yes it does
[02:31] <doctorzongo> no one else
[02:31] <Highlife> kelsin: its installed now but I'm still not getting sound
[02:31] <doctorzongo> its not installed
[02:31] <clanmac10> Hey all
[02:31] <stiki> is there some gui tool to assist in mounting partitions .. i seem to recall seeing it a couple years ago but I can't seem to find it in the latest release?
[02:31] <EdwardXP> this sucks..
[02:31] <kelsin> Highlife: make sure to check in the vlc preferences and try all of the output modules to see if any work
[02:31] <doctorzongo> no there is not
[02:32] <kelsin> Highlife: ( and to make sure sound is enabled in the audio general settings)
[02:32] <doctorzongo> it wont work -- that was outdated in version 1.1
[02:32] <EdwardXP> My Terminal background is a different color,but  not the the text its white... or whatever i want it to be; --
[02:33] <doctorzongo> the text is no white
[02:33] <doctorzongo> your lying
[02:33] <clanmac10> I got two questions for you all today; 1.) Is there a reason why the RT61 chipset does not work out the box as RaLink do provide a GPL driver
[02:33] <DM|> kelson ?
[02:33] <doctorzongo> no and no
[02:33] <kelsin> EdwardXP: on the Colors tab in the profile editor you can set the text color and background color, you can set them however you want if you uncheck "Use colors from system theme"
[02:33] <DM|> kelsin Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:33] <doctorzongo> outdated in version 1.3
[02:33] <EdwardXP> its like this -/>  hi..    <- this is white.. and the outsource is white too.. which is what i want changed... i can't change the output
[02:33] <doctorzongo> sorry kelsin
[02:34] <DM|> meh
[02:34] <DM|> this is frustrating
[02:34] <kelsin> DM|: then I would try moving it out of the way, "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.saved" then running nvidia settings and have it save
[02:34] <doctorzongo> no its not DM|
[02:34] <Highlife> kelsin: nun of the modules are working
[02:34] <EdwardXP> bah
[02:34] <DM|> doctorzongo lies!
[02:34] <doctorzongo> they're all working highlife
[02:35] <kelsin> Highlife: if you run vlc from the command line do any errors come up when trying to play movies related to the sound?
[02:35] <doctorzongo> no
[02:35] <Highlife> well I'm not getting sound is what im saying
[02:35] <Highlife> yes
[02:35] <Highlife> [00000347] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[02:35] <Highlife> [00000347] main audio output error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion
[02:35] <Highlife> [00000347] main audio output error: couldn't create audio output pipeline
[02:35] <doctorzongo> fetuccini alfredo
[02:35] <kelsin> do you get that same error if you use the Alsa module?
[02:35] <mrmondaynight> hello room
[02:35] <Highlife> yes
[02:35] <kelsin> Highlife: pastebin any errors you get
[02:36] <doctorzongo> kelsin: no he doesnt
[02:36] <kelsin> !pastebin | Highlife
[02:36] <ubotu> Highlife: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:36] <coolbhavi> hi
[02:36] <btard> does anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux
[02:36] <clanmac10> The second question is, whem compiz-fusion is enabled, when windows are opened up there wigets are above the top panel so you have to hold down Alt+left mouse to move them down. Is there a way to stop them from defaulting in this location ?
[02:36] <bloony> scguy318: fuseiso worked, thx :)
[02:36] <Highlife> im srry i thought about it right after i pasted XP
[02:36] <doctorzongo> clanmac10: none
[02:36] <althetuxman> clanmac10:what card?
[02:36] <clanmac10> doctorzongo:Was that for question one ?
[02:37] <kelsin> Highlife: sorry, lost the convo for a sec, with the alsa module selected do you get that same error? The "oss audio output error"?
[02:37] <doctorzongo> clanmac10: the last question you posted
[02:37] <Highlife> kelsin: yes i do
[02:37] <btard> "does anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux" for radeon 9200 cards, which are graphics cards made by ati (not flooding question but adding on mising detail)
[02:37] <ubuntu> anyone have a good how-to fix xorg from the livecd for a hard install?
[02:37] <Highlife> one sec
[02:38] <Highlife> i forgot to refresh the list
[02:38] <kelsin> Highlife: can you try selecting differen devices under Audio / Output / Alsa (might have to click the refresh list to make them appear)
[02:38] <Highlife> that may be my prob
[02:38] <doctorzongo> ubuntu: nope -- its impossible
[02:38] <clanmac10> doctorzongo:Was that for the first question
[02:38] <juano__> ubuntu you have a messed up xorg ?
[02:38] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make psp work with ubuntu?
[02:38] <ubuntu> all I need is to edit a couple of lines in my xorg.conf file from the livecd
[02:38] <doctorzongo> clanmac10: yes
[02:39] <kelsin> Highlife: also on the "Output modules" screen, amke sure to click Advanced Options and set the audio output module to "Alsa"
[02:39] <doctorzongo> ubuntu: i know -- but if you do that it messes up your computer and cuts off internet access -- sorry
[02:39] <juano__> ubuntu well by mounting your root partition you can access your xorg.conf file through there
[02:39] <tritium> ubuntu: you _could_ remaster it if you really wanted to
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu:  why not just reconfigure your xorg.conf?
[02:39] <EdwardXP> :( arggh its not working...
[02:39] <clanmac10> Sorry I pinged out
[02:39] <LOGAN> is it true you might not make your own version of firefox deluxe and give it away for free? Has firefox copyright issues?
[02:39] <clanmac10> doctorzongo:please repeate
[02:39] <juano__> ubuntu but i would do what IndyGunFreak suggests
[02:39] <doctorzongo> clanmac10: yes
[02:40] <kelsin> EdwardXP: your color settings in gnome terminal are not working? How?
[02:40] <ubuntu> juano__,  I think that is the problem, when I turn my computer on grub loads fine then it continues to load until all of the sudden it goes into a strange text loop
[02:40] <EdwardXP> its like this  C:> time   <--------- this is all white and the output is white too... " i want to change the output colors "
[02:40] <clanmac10> I did put a RFI for it
[02:40] <EdwardXP> kelsin, it woks
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu: what has led you to believe this is a xorg issue?
[02:40] <juano__> ubuntu ran ubuntu in safe mode from grub ?
[02:40] <doctorzongo> UBUNTU: I THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT
[02:40] <ubuntu> IndyGunFreak,  juano__  It wont let me log in the scrolling text moves too fast for me to even login
[02:40] <doctorzongo> I THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT
[02:40] <doctorzongo> I THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT
[02:40] <doctorzongo> I THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu:  you would boot safe mode, which would send you to a cli
[02:41] <kelsin> LOGAN: firefox has a complicated license, you can take the code and change it and distribute it for free, but somet things like the icons and art are not free to distribute
[02:41] <clanmac10> Just seems like in less then a year opensolaris works out the box with more wifi chipsets then ubuntu has ever done
[02:41] <althetuxman> clanmac10: fglrx drivers from ati
[02:41] <kelsin> LOGAN: (I'm generalizing here a lot, you should read the license for more details)
[02:41] <EdwardXP> you know what i mean kelsin
[02:41] <r3n0c> hi, i'm having a problem when ubuntu loads, no splash screen. and i can't get it fixed given the tutorial in the forum
[02:41] <clanmac10> althetuxman:what! I don't have a ATi chipset, its a nv
[02:41] <ubuntu> at one point I was able to alt-f2 and enter my login befopre the errors started rolling by and edit xorg to stopp using the new nvidia drivers and use nv instead and I was able to startx
[02:41] <juano__> ubuntu try booting safe mode and if you cant , well you can always boot from livecd and mount your root partition
[02:42] <LOGAN> kelsin: : The code for the program is Open Source, the Name and graphics are not . you can change anything you want, but you can't call it FF and distribute after you have made those changes without Mozilla's permission.
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu:  choose safe mode from your grub menu, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and take generic settings for everything.
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> that should get you back to a GUI
[02:42] <ubuntu> my grub menu auto load into ubuntu
[02:42] <coolbhavi> ubuntu,sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[02:42] <lazarus_lupine> for example Flock is based on FF
[02:42] <scguy318> ubuntu: if you're on the LiveCD try Safe Graphics mode
[02:42] <Highlife> kelsin: Alright I have the Advance options box checked and ALSA audio output selected I also have the HDa Intel: STAC92xx Digital device selected in AlSA Device name
[02:42] <kelsin> EdwardXP: if you want the "time" part to change you jsut set it in the profile editor for gnome terminal, if you want to change the "C:" part you need to learn how to edit the bash prompt
[02:42] <kelsin> LOGAN: yes that's basically what I just said
[02:42] <ubuntu> whats the command for loading the hda1 where ubuntu is installed
[02:42] <LOGAN> Im no legal expers and most times licenses confuse me because they are written in laywer talk
[02:43] <ubuntu> livecd works fine
[02:43] <juano__> ubuntu you mean how to mount your partition ?
[02:43] <r3n0c> how do i fix the problem where the splash screen never loads.. it is making it take forever for ubuntu 7.10 to load
[02:43] <Dark-Dx> any eprom expert here?
[02:43] <ubuntu> juano__,  yes
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> chmod something... i do believe.
[02:43] <kelsin> Highlife: if you still get the /dev/dsp error when you try to play sound that's very odd, since that's a oss error
[02:43] <LOGAN> kelsin : just means you cannot make your own version of FF then :(
[02:43] <scguy318> r3n0c: you can choose to boot without splash
[02:43] <btard> "does anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux" for radeon 9200 cards, which are graphics cards made by ati.
[02:43] <r3n0c> scguy318,  where
[02:43] <holzmodem> hi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)
[02:43] <kelsin> LOGAN: if you don't call if FF and don't use it's icons you can
[02:43] <juano__> ubuntu: it should mount automatically if it detects installation, but if not try sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/somedir
[02:43] <scguy318> r3n0c: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, its in defoptions
[02:43] <EdwardXP> i must learn
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | btard
[02:44] <ubotu> btard: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <scguy318> r3n0c: this line # defoptions=
[02:44] <scguy318> r3n0c: make it look like what I have written
[02:44] <juano__> ubuntu: first mkdir /media/rootpart  , then mount /dev/hda1 /media/rootpart
[02:44] <LOGAN> kelsin : it seems its not even allowed to spread a version with a few preferences changed
[02:44] <scguy318> r3n0c: then do sudo update-grub
[02:44] <Highlife> kelsin: I'm not getting any errors any mroe
[02:44] <Highlife> but i still don't have sound
[02:44] <r3n0c> scguy318,  ok one sec
[02:44] <kSid> Anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't know what Monitor my Compaq V3633AU is using?
[02:44] <ufo-radio> I am just here
[02:44] <kelsin> LOGAN: not if you use their name and icons.
[02:44] <clanmac10> Were does MS L@@KOut cache emails ?
[02:45] <juano__> ubuntu: from there then just cd /media/rootpart and youll be inside your ubuntu HDD installation
[02:45] <coolbhavi> hey root partitions are detected by default  first do mkdir /media/rootpart  , then mount /dev/hda1 /media/rootpart
[02:45] <r3n0c> scguy318,  so if after deftoptions it says default splash
[02:45] <kelsin> Highlife: any messages in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog?
[02:45] <r3n0c> scguy318,  i just take out splash?
[02:45] <EdwardXP> i found it :)
[02:45] <coolbhavi> if it isnt working mate
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> i still don't understand why he just doesn't reconfigure X, cuz i'm betting he's just gonna hose xorg.conf doing whatever he's gonna do.
[02:45] <juano__> coolbhavi: yep i told him that first, but just incase it didnt he would need to do that
[02:45] <scguy318> r3n0c: sure, take out quiet if you want to see kernel messages
[02:45] <DIL> i tried to install vmware and it continually attempts to install each time i update i tried to remove completely from using Synaptic but still ......
[02:45] <EdwardXP> $ export PS1="\e[0;31m[\u@\h \W]\$ \e[m "      My Reference!!!!  is here [ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-change-the-color-of-my-shell-prompt-under-linux-or-unix/ ]
[02:46] <EdwardXP> it works without the $ sign though
[02:46] <Highlife> kelsin: no
[02:46] <r3n0c> scguy318,  what about lower down, in kernel:
[02:46] <IamReck> Does anyone know of any applications or methods used to achieve Dual Monitors for ATI Radeon graphics card?  Other then the ones here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174?
[02:46] <r3n0c> should i take splash out of that too?
[02:46] <coolbhavi> yep mate
[02:46] <scguy318> r3n0c: change that line only
[02:46] <scguy318> r3n0c: then sudo update-grub
[02:46] <althetuxman> clanmac10: sorry ithough u said ati, in that case you need the nvidia drivers, you install them using the restricted drivers application under System -> Administration. Thats how I installed mine.
[02:46] <r3n0c> kk
[02:46] <LOGAN> kelsin : well that dissapointed me a bit. Dont worry I get over it
[02:46] <Dark-Dx> I assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> IamReck: dualscreens are pretty hard with ATI(i never got it to work)...
[02:46] <LOGAN> looking for an alternative right now
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> !twinview | IamReck you can try this
[02:46] <clanmac10> althetuxman:Mate I know.. I got the driver setup, thats not the question
[02:46] <ubotu> IamReck you can try this: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:46] <r3n0c> scguy318,  ok i'll try reboot'n now
[02:46] <EdwardXP> crap i wanted the output file to change!!!
[02:47] <punkgy> Does anybody know of a way to transfer a file from a ubuntu box to a windows pc, perferrbly with a quick installation
[02:47] <DIL> !vmware
[02:47] <IamReck> !DualHead
[02:47] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:47] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:47] <kelsin> LOGAN: are you just browsing open source projects looking for something that's fully free in what you can do with it? Starting looking for BSD licensed software
[02:47] <Dark-Dx> I assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?
[02:47] <IamReck> thanks ubotu
[02:47] <althetuxman> clanmac10: whats the prob?
[02:47] <kelsin> punkgy: ssh, using putty on windows and the ssh server on ubuntu
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> !yourwelcome
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yourwelcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <clanmac10> When a window opens, the top wigets on the tool bar of that window keep getting stuck under the top panel
[02:48] <Dark-Dx> I assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?
[02:48] <LOGAN> kelsin : thanks for the tip
[02:48] <clanmac10> So you have to press Alt+left mouse to move it down the screen
[02:48] <althetuxman> clanmac10: strange. I have nerver seen that happen. I have a 7600 GT
[02:49] <clanmac10> in other words, how do you default were a window start in the screen on gnaome
[02:49] <clanmac10> s/in/on
[02:49] <jrib> !devilspie > clanmac10 (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:49] <kelsin> clanmac10: you need to look into the "devilspie" app
[02:50] <DIL> i cannot uninstall vmware it attempts installs each time i update-How can i get rid of it
[02:50] <ubuntu> I have five xorg.conf with a bunch of numbers behind them in /etc/x11 is that normal/?
[02:50] <jrib> ubuntu: those are backups
[02:51] <scguy318> ubuntu: yes
[02:51] <scguy318> ubuntu: what jrib said
[02:51] <r3n0c> scguy318,  new question, it loaded just find, and i also did sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[02:51] <kSid> Terminal < Dos