[02:06] <lorddelta> ...so I think kubuntu is screwing up in a big way...can I get any help diagnosing the problem? The...bug reporter...crashed...and then the reporter which was trying to report the crashed reporter crashed.
[02:06] <lorddelta> Oh, and btw, I think KWallet is completely zonked.
[02:06] <lorddelta> I didn't touch it.
[02:06] <lorddelta> KDE appears to be shooting itself in the foot?
[02:07] <lorddelta> Help?
[02:07] <lorddelta> I couldn't even save the report from the crash reporter.
[02:19] <VirtualBlackness> Can you give more details as to what is happening?
[02:21] <VirtualBlackness> Can you look at /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg for errors to get a sense of where the crash begins lorddelta?
[02:23] <lorddelta> VirtualBlackness: yeah on sec
[03:09] <lorddelta> VirtualBlackness: sorry for the delay
[03:09] <lorddelta> I'm not seeing much, just a bunch of ext4_inode cleanups, and failures to connect to the network.
[03:15] <VirtualBlackness> lorddelta: sudo touch /forcefsck; sudo reboot       this will run a file system check on reinstall. I expect it will find and correct errors.
[03:15] <VirtualBlackness> s/reinstall/reboot/
[03:18] <VirtualBlackness> If the integrity of the drive medium itself is compromised it will need to be replaced.
[08:29] <kroonrs> I just upgraded from 10.04 (kubuntu netbook edition) to 12.04.  The upgrade said "too many errors" were reported, but the upgrade was completed.  However, now my machine no longer shows eth0, wlan0 or my network manager...  How can I try to fix it?
[08:36] <bigbrovar> Hi guys, There is this annoying bug I am experiencing with dolphin (Kubuntu 12.04) where it doesnt auto refresh and if say I add or remove a directory..  such changes are not reflected until I hit F5, anyone else experience this?
[08:55] <kroonrs> Anyone with a suggestion as to how I can try get my eth0/wlan0 back?  (Disappeared after upgrade)
[08:56] <AikiLinux> any one remember how to fix the error in amarok : No suitable demux plugin ?
[09:12] <jesse2_> Does anyone know how to the aurorae theme engine for KDE? ie is there a kubuntu package for 12.04? I cant find it anywhere
[09:26] <jesse2_> I've concluded that Aurorae is some kind of taboo and no one is allowed to speak of it anymore :)
[09:38] <achille> hi guys !!!
[09:40] <Wizard> Hi achille.
[09:40] <jesse2_> Hi Wizard
[09:40] <Wizard> Hi jesse2_
[09:40] <jesse2_> Hi Achille
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:01] <Wizard> Hi BluesKaj
[11:02] <BluesKaj> hey Wizard
[11:13] <WindBuntu> good morning kubuntu community
[11:14] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey there WindBuntu
[12:17] <BCMM> is there a list somewhere of all packages available on the kubuntu live cd?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> BCMM,http://www.linuceum.com/Distros/osDesktopKubuntuKDE.php
[12:35] <BCMM> BluesKaj: thanks
[12:36] <BluesKaj> BCMM, not sure if it shows all packages ..depends on what repositories you decide to include
[12:36] <BCMM> BluesKaj: i'm not sure if i'm missing something - isn't that just a list of the basic default applications?
[12:36] <BCMM> no, i don't mean all kubuntu packages
[12:36] <BCMM> i mean packages that are actually installed on the live cd
[12:37] <BCMM> as in, when you are running hte live cd, you can run rekonq (i think), but not gimp
[12:40] <Wizard> BCMM: You can easily generate such list by yourself.
[12:40] <BCMM> Wizard: yeah, i just haven't got a running liveCD to hand right now
[12:40] <Wizard> Ah.
[12:41] <Wizard> Hmm, check FTP mirrors than, maybe some of them include something like packages.list.
[12:42] <BluesKaj> BCMM, odd. seems a list doesn't exist :/  google sucks since they dropped the linux libraries
[12:56] <paulsscott_>  /msg NickServ identify H0riz123
[12:56] <BluesKaj> paulsscott_, type that in the server textbox
[12:57] <BluesKaj> BCMM, the only way I know to find the packages on the live cd is to burn it and then when running it open a terminal and do , sudo dpkg -l
[12:58] <BCMM> dpkg -l will run fine as a normal user
[12:58] <BCMM> but thanks
[12:58] <BCMM> thing is, i don't have a copy of hte latest disk around; i'm trying to talk somebody through using it
[12:58] <Wizard> I don't have it here at work.
[12:59] <Wizard> I had 10.04 somewhere :P
[13:03] <BluesKaj> BCMM, well , whatever is missing can always be installed later , unless there's no internet connection , and unneeded apps can be removed
[13:03]  * Wizard nods.
[13:04] <Wizard> It is alsa quite easy to customize the install disc.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Wizard, yes what's the name of that app that one use to mirror an install ?
[13:04] <amgarching> Hi, how do I fix scrollbars in GTK apps?
[13:05] <Wizard> BluesKaj: I don't know any.
[13:05] <Wizard> amgarching: ?
[13:05] <Wizard> You want to disable scrollbar overlays? These are not installed by default.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> !install
[13:05] <amgarching> scrollbars are not shown unless you find a tiny bar and click on it
[13:06] <BluesKaj> !automate
[13:06] <BluesKaj> bah
[13:06] <Wizard> amgarching: Uninstall liboverlay-scrollbar and restart your GTK apps.
[13:06] <amgarching> This is kubuntu with gnome-desktop installed in addition.
[13:07] <Wizard> amgarching: It doesn't matter.
[13:08] <Wizard> amgarching: Ah, sorry, package name is overlay-scrollbar.
[13:08] <Wizard> Remove it.
[13:09] <amgarching> Wizard: thanks, did that and purged two liboverlay-* pkg. Scrollbars are back.
[13:10] <Wizard> You're welcome.
[13:11] <paulsscott> BluesKaj, thanks. Easy mistake. Pw changed...!
[13:21] <wolf_raven> im having some problems with pulseaudio and kubuntu 12.04 x64, pulseaudio doesnt show up in phonon as an option? so i cant choose to use pulseaudio?
[13:22] <wolf_raven> im using KDE 4.8.3
[13:25] <betterfan> holly
[13:25] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, and you're sure pulse is installed
[13:26] <betterfan> I got a question
[13:26] <wolf_raven> BluesKaj, yes
[13:26] <wolf_raven> it is installed
[13:27] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, did you check the audio hardware setup tab in phonon
[13:27] <lordievader> !ask | yeahman
[13:28] <yeahman> 可是ANDY ，活着是不需道理，谁都可能暂时的失去勇气
[13:29] <Wizard> !cn | yeahman
[13:30] <wolf_raven> on soundcard i have:  Built-in Audio and Barts HDMI Audio (Radeon HD 6800 Series) but no pulseaudio?
[13:30] <Wizard> yeahman: I can only understand this two characters: 中文 :P
[13:32] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, it doesn't mention pulseaudio on the hardware tab , only what pulseaudio is controlling
[13:33] <wolf_raven> well there is 2 tabs in phonon in the configure of soundhardware
[13:34] <wolf_raven> soundcard and profile and there is no pulseaudio option in any of them
[13:41] <wolf_raven> if i go soundcard or profile options under Hardware in phonon there is no pulseaudio option at all
[13:41] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, i have pulse installed , and my soundcard uses it but doesn't show pulseaudio output either , test the options thay you have there ..also pavucontrol is a good accessory for pulseaudio to help direct the audio input and output audio signals
[13:42] <wolf_raven> ok i will try to install pavucontrol
[13:44] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, in phonon , have you "tested" the options in the "Device Preference" list ?
[13:47] <wolf_raven> there i have Built-in Audio Analog stereo) on Soundunit option
[13:48] <wolf_raven> so no pulseaudio...
[13:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , but do you get sound when you choose it and click the test button?
[13:49] <wolf_raven> yes i get sound
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok , pulseaudio doesn't need to do the final output ,but  it's still directing the output from the soundcard
[13:51] <wolf_raven> so pulseaudio works then?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> wok do yo have sound on youtube etc ?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, ^
[13:53] <wolf_raven> i havent check sound on youtube yet? btw, why check sound on youtube?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> because pulseaudio is required by some soundcards for webaudio
[13:55] <wolf_raven> sound works on youtube
[13:55] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is not a reqirement if you have sound on all players and networks ...it's installed by default since 10.10 or so
[13:56] <wolf_raven> i just did a sound check on youtube  the sound works on youtube too
[13:57] <BluesKaj> one way to find out , look in your package manager or run pulseaudio in the terminal
[13:57] <wolf_raven> [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running and [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[13:58] <wolf_raven> what was it that has failed?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> it's installed
[13:58] <BluesKaj> nothing , you didn't give an argument
[13:59] <wolf_raven> ok
[14:03] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, I ran fine for yrs without pulseaudio , it's only been the last yr or so since installing a pci soundcard that I need pulse and that's only for webaudio , otherwise I wouidn't use it at all.
[14:04] <wolf_raven> but i saw in whats it called? pavucontrol?  Settings for: Network Acess, Network Server, Multicast/RTP and Simultaneous Output is it something there to config?
[14:05] <Smurphy> re ...
[14:06] <wolf_raven> i want the pulseaudio equalizer to run and in order to have pulseaudio equalizer to run i must run pulseaudio.  if i dont the sound doesnt sound good :) sounds better with and equalizer
[14:07] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, only if you plan on streaming audio over the internet from a server or some such
[14:09] <BluesKaj> there is an alsa eq app that you can install , wolf_raven
[14:10] <lordievader> BluesKaj: There is also a pulseaudio eq, just that it is made for 10.04... and not very stable...
[14:10] <lordievader> But it does work!
[14:10] <BluesKaj> the fewer pulseaudio apps and options , the better , IMO
[14:11] <BluesKaj> lordievader, ^
[14:11] <wolf_raven> i already have the pulseaudio equalizer installed :)
[14:12] <wolf_raven> btw, i saw in phonon what is RTP Multicast?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> wolf_raven, it's your sound system , do what you want :) ...the fewer layers of processing the happier I am
[14:13] <BluesKaj> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/rtp.htm , wolf_raven
[14:18] <yossarianlives> #redis
[14:28] <uuser> hi all. since it seems that the kubuntu-desktop meta-package retrieves almost the same packages as kde-minimal does (am i wrong?) what is its purpose exactly? thanks all!
[14:30] <BluesKaj> uuser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !minimal | uuser
[14:32] <uuser> BluesKaj: already read it... but it is not so verbose and, above all, out of date
[14:34] <uuser> ...and i was not referring to minimal cds :)
[14:34]  * BluesKaj shrugs  ..
[14:35] <uuser> i tried to simulate an install on my gnome ubuntu... and "sudo apt-get -s install kde-minimal" will download 47 new packages, while "sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop" 51.
[14:35] <uuser> i'm wondering the purpose of an ubuntu meta-package...
[14:36] <uuser> when it seems it does quite the same thing as the kde-minimal one
[14:38] <lordievader> uuser: From what I believe is that the kubuntu package is the kde-minimal package with a few adjustements to it. Or in other words, if you install a base system you can choose to install the kde base, or the kubuntu branded kde base.
[14:39] <uuser> lordievader: yes, i think so too... but, since i'm new to kde, i don't know which one fits better for me...
[14:40] <uuser> for example... do i need kappfinder or kmix, kwrite or ksystemlog...
[14:41] <BluesKaj> uuser, why are you running a 4G HDD or something :)
[14:41] <lordievader> uuser: Those kind of packages you will probably find in both.
[14:42] <uuser> well... apt-get says that kde-minimal would not install kappfinder and kwrite... and kubuntu-desktop would not install kmix and ksystemlog
[14:44] <uuser> so it seems i would not have a mixer with kubuntu-desktop... :(
[14:45] <uuser> 8actually it is the opposite :P but the question remain)
[14:48] <uuser> you can see yourself: http://pastebin.com/vhHyFYHZ
[14:49] <BluesKaj> uuser, what kind of mixer ?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> if you need a mixer , just install one
[14:53] <uuser> BluesKaj: sorry but... what answer is that?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> NM .. uuser , it's not important
[14:55] <uuser> i know how to install a mixer, i'm just wondering the conceptual difference between two slightly different meta packages...
[14:58] <rethus> need libkgapi 0.4.1 for google-calendar + akonadi connection
[14:58] <rethus> how can i get it for 12.04
[14:58] <BluesKaj> uuser, go ask the kubuntu developers ... we'rte here to help with problems , not to conceptualize
[15:01] <uuser> BluesKaj: understand before is better than fix later ;)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> uuser, what's to fix
[15:03] <BluesKaj> if you need some thing , you install ..very simple
[15:04] <uuser> well... i'don't understand which one is better to install...
[15:04] <uuser> but probably i have to test it myself...
[15:04] <BluesKaj> there's no better or woese , just different , that's all
[15:04] <BluesKaj> worse
[15:05] <cuit> Volume control doesn't work for me, I see the bar change but the output stays the same. Kubuntu12.04, built-in Realtek audio in my ASUS M5A99Xevo Mobo; common? help?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> cuit, did you turn up the volume in alsamixer and your speaker system ?
[15:06] <uuser> BluesKaj: ok, differences... so, which one would you suggest me and why?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> uuser, dunno
[15:07] <uuser> BluesKaj: :D
[15:07] <djbello> Hi all. I just switched from Debian with Gnome/Compiz to Kubuntu 12.04. Love it so far minus a few issues. But how do I zoom in the desktop?
[15:07] <cuit> BluesKaj: I can change the volume in the program that has Playback Streams but the keyboard shortcut causes the onscreen feedback but doesn't do anything to the sound
[15:08] <BluesKaj> cuit, like I said , turn up the volume on your speakers
[15:09] <djbello> Does anybody know how to zoom in? On Compiz I just used the Windows key + the scroll wheel on the mouse. But how about KDE?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> djbello, ctrl + f11
[15:10] <cuit> BlueKaj: your solution is "loldunno use manual solution"? I woulda never thought of that :P
[15:11] <djbello> BluesKaj: Hm. That activates the desktop switcher as a cube here. Not what I meant. I mean zooming (like magnifying) the desktop.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> cuit, I have to mention it no matter how trivial it is to you
[15:14] <BluesKaj> djbello, look in systemsettings>dekstop effects>all effects
[15:15] <djbello> BluesKaj: Ahhhhh I see said the blind man! This, of course, makes a lot of sense now that I see it. Thanks a lot.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> cuit, you'd be surprised how many ppl forget about their speaker volume ctrl , or alsamixer muted ctrls etc
[15:20] <djbello> BluesKaj: So, ok, aside from the zooming effect being "ugly", is there a way to make this work using the scroll wheel?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> djbello,  dunno , sorry
[15:47] <kish> the kde terminal is nasty
[15:51] <djbello> kish: how so?
[15:52] <cuit> Wat? Why can't I see git in Muon?
[15:53] <kish> djbello, its nothing like the gnome-terminal
[15:53] <kish> but the gnome terminal is crap in kde
[15:53] <kish> it doesnt work right
[15:53] <L3top> kish... it is a terminal... what is the issue?
[15:53] <kish> when you resize the text size the terminal screws up
[15:54] <djbello> kish: You have to tweak the KDE terminal and it will be like gnome-terminal. Been there, done that. Hated it too... But I'm fine now.
[15:55] <L3top> cuit: right click on kmix speaker icon and choose "select master channel". open a terminal and type alsamixer  and figure out which one affects your volume and use it. If this is a digital output (like hdmi) there is no volume control... it is digital. It is either on or off.
[15:55] <djbello> kish: Under Settings->Configure Current Profile on General tab, uncheck "Save window size and position on exit. Before you do that make sure you have your window set to the size you want. I usually go with 80x24 'cuz we run legacy telnet apps on an AIX box
[15:56] <cuit> L3top: Thaaaaank you, thanks twice for responding to such an old message; that was right, it had selected my GPU's HDMI output not my 3.5mm audio that I'm using
[15:56] <L3top> :)
[15:56] <djbello> kish: under Appearance tab, switch to Monospace font and set it to size 10 or 12. I believe 10 is default under gnome-terminal
[15:57] <kish> ah, djbello thanks
[15:57] <kish> that helped a lot
[15:57] <kish> ;)
[15:57] <djbello> kish: I know. It really irritated me too.
[15:59] <kish> i dont like how there is only one wallpaper either ;)
[16:00] <kish> but im fixing that right now
[16:01] <djbello> kish: Yep. Another thing you'd think "what?"! You can get click on Get more and grab some from online.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> cuit, muon doesn't seem to have some important packages , that's why I still use synaptic , and I also have mention to make sure you have all our repos  enabled
[16:02] <djbello> kish: There's also a package called kde-wallpapers-default. Not sure but it might now be installed
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ok , stuff to do .. BBL
[16:08] <djbello> Is it just me or does rekonq crash a lot? It crashes for me very frequently, usually when I close the window.
[16:10]  * L3top is not fond of rekonq... yes it crashes a lot
[16:59] <skreech_> kroonrs: hi
[16:59] <aj__> hi
[17:09] <skreech_> uuser: The minimal packages will install just what is needed for a KDE workspace environment and very basic tools
[17:10] <skreech_> Kubuntu desktop will pull in more packages and have some customization. It also includes what has been decided on by the Kubuntu Desktop team as "best of class" applications
[17:11] <skreech_> The reason that you see such a small difference in the number of packages is that KDE shares a lot of code further down in the stack so there are a lot of libraries but each application can then be smaller with a lot of functionality built in and shared amongst them
[17:13] <skreech_> !info kdewallpapers
[17:14] <skreech_> djbello: Yeah Rekonq is progressing pretty rapidly considerign but it' still an immature application
[17:16] <djbello> skreech_: I just like how it is integrated into KDE. I have a Bookmarks widget on the desktop which works really nice. But, I'd rather use Google Chrome with the same level of Bookmark integration.
[17:16] <skreech_> djbello: Chrome is really strange so .... maybe?
[17:17] <skreech_> It supports some parts of KDE infrastructure and doesn't support others
[17:17] <skreech_> I'd guess you can throw in the code if you like Google isn't very picky about efficiency for the code base
[17:17] <djbello> skreech_: Or Firefox. That would be fine, too. Do you know if Firefox has a KDE plugin for the Bookmarks?
[17:17] <skreech_> It did
[17:17] <skreech_> Then they went pyscho
[17:19] <djbello> My boxx hates Firefox. Says it has too big of a memory footprint. I agree. Several Macs here at work ran up their memory because users had like 10-15 Firefox windows open. Chrome doesn't exibit that behavior.
[17:19] <djbello> (boss, not boxx)
[17:20] <skreech_> Really? Chrome uses more memory than Firefox
[17:20] <skreech_> if you discount Extensions
[17:20] <djbello> maybe it's the Macs... I'm on Linux (yeah!)
[17:21] <skreech_> Extensions are like applications within a virtual machine so they can eat a lot
[17:21] <skreech_> Oh maybe. Macs are horrible for memory management
[17:21] <djbello> Agreed.
[17:21] <skreech_> well not RAM management they have a BSD core so that's really good but they have awful use of swap
[17:23] <djbello> So back to rekonq. Is that a fork of Konqueror? Is Konqueror still being developed?
[17:26] <skreech_> It's not a fork It's a browser
[17:27] <skreech_> Konqueror isn't a browser But as mentioned KDE has a lot of functionality pushed way down the stack
[17:27] <skreech_> Konqueror is still being developed and it does what konqueror does
[17:30] <skreech_> The major thing is that it's a fairly functional webkit browser which is why people like rekonq
[17:31] <djbello> I just remember Konqueror as a browser. But I never used KDE, only always briefy tried KDE (older versions of course) and went back to Gnome-based distros, Ubuntu and more recently the more conservative Debian.
[17:31] <djbello> Anyway, looks like Rekonq is going to stay on my desktop. Hopefully they will fix some of those issues, the crashes in particular
[17:31] <skreech_> Well you can double up and have chromium and rekonq
[17:32] <skreech_> That's normally how I get things done
[17:32] <skreech_> Konqueror isn't really a web browser it's more of a viewer.
[17:32] <skreech_> Anything you thrown at Konqueror as long as some part of KDE can show it Konqueror will allow you to view it
[17:33] <skreech_> Just that it can do HTML and so they built a special mode in it to split between dangerous files and non dangerous
[17:33] <djbello> Possibly. Although I'd like to stick with one. unless, again, they can share each others bookmarks. I have to do some more digging
[17:34] <skreech_> Well locations really. So things coming from the net can be sandboxed and not mess with your Stuph (tm)
[17:34] <skreech_> again you probably can but it would require submitting code to chromium
[17:35] <skreech_> which as far as I can see as long as it doesn't screw the chromium build (mid range difficulty) and doesn't screw up the rendering (pretty impossible) it will get accepted
[17:36] <djbello> skreech_: do you know where rekonq keeps it's bookmarks? Are they stored in flat files/directories or are they using a database os sorts?
[17:37] <skreech_> Ahmm I can check I would suspect it's a flat file
[17:38] <X0153R> Any here to help me with a compiled Wine Version?
[17:39] <skreech_> X0153R: try #winehq
[17:39] <skreech_> djbello: try ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[17:40] <X0153R> already checked, my packet is created and installed but i cant work with wine
[17:41] <skreech_> djbello: you can also alt+F2 -> bookmarks:/
[17:41] <djbello> Yep. there it is.
[17:41] <djbello> Well, thanks for your help.
[17:42] <skreech_> sure
[17:42] <djbello> I wanna take a look at how Chrome/Chromium stores bookmarks. Heck, if they use the same format I might just create a symbolic link to the konqueror bookmark file
[17:43] <skreech_> X0153R: Right but #wniehq is going to be far more knowledgeable
[17:43] <skreech_> djbello: hmm interesting idea
[17:43] <X0153R> Okay thank you, i try my luck :) good evening all
[17:43] <skreech_> or a script to watch one file and translate it to the other
[17:47] <djbello> Yeah, Chromium (just installed it) keeps a file calle $HOME/.config/chromium/Default/Bookmarks (no file extension). It is not in XML format like Konqueror's version.
[17:48] <djbello> I gue one could parse through either the Chromium or the Konqueror file and use XSLT to translate the format
[17:51] <djbello> skreech_: huh. I guess I should always Google foo se Internet before opening my mouth in a chat room. Check this out: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=137685
[17:51] <djbello> I'm going to check that out.
[17:52] <skreech_> \o/
[17:53] <weter> (_|_)
[17:55] <weter> С украины люд есь?
[17:57] <skreech_> !ru
[17:57] <skreech_> weter: ^^
[17:58] <weter> :)
[18:52] <nicola> Hi!
[18:55] <Wizard> Hi!
[18:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> HIGH
[18:56] <Wizard> mydogsnameisrudy: :P
[19:05] <Wizard> Problem: I use my favourite non standard Icon theme, it uses svg and png icons. Icons are blured in some places, whcih makes me a bit angry. Is it possible to delete png dirs from icon theme?
[19:05] <Wizard> (Delete without breaking the theme)
[19:08] <nick____> ciao
[19:08] <nick____> hi!
[19:09] <Wizard> Hi nick____
[19:09] <Wizard> Something has sticked to your as^H^Hback.
[19:10] <Wizard> :P
[19:10] <nick____> yeah yeah XD
[19:11] <nick____> Do you know why compiz doesn't run well in kde 3.5?
[19:11] <Wizard> Whoa :D
[19:12] <nick____> Wizard, do you have kde 3.5?
[19:12] <Wizard> I don't know, I used beryl with KDE3.
[19:12] <Wizard> No, I finally managed to get used to 4.
[19:13] <nick____> so Compiz run well with KDE3?
[19:13] <Wizard> Hmm, I used last KDE3.5 based Kubuntu, and yes, everything was fine.
[19:14] <Wizard> But it was few years ago and I'm not really sure if it was before or after merging beryl back.
[19:14] <Wizard> Hey :(
[19:15] <Idestem> hi!
[19:15] <mydogsnameisrudy> HIGh LOw
[19:18] <Idestem> Does everyone in this channel use Kubuntu?
[19:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> i would have to guess and say no
[19:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> ;)
[19:19] <Idestem> thanks
[19:23] <Wizard> Well, I do. My wife does.
[19:26] <lordievader> Depends on how you see it, if you mean only kubuntu and only from the kubuntu-live-cd then no, if kubuntu in anysense of the word, then yes.
[19:26] <X0153R> Why sudo make install dont install?
[19:27] <X0153R> I cant saw any errors
[19:27] <lordievader> X0153R: You are trying to compile wine right?
[19:27] <X0153R> yes, and nobody write in winehq
[19:28] <lordievader> X0153R: Isn't the repo an option? Or are you trying to be bleeding edge?
[19:30] <X0153R> i dont understand the question
[19:31] <lordievader> X0153R: You can install wine quite simply with: sudo apt-get install wine. Unless you want the newest of the newest, this is the best option.
[19:33] <Wizard> Ubuntu has quite fresh wine version.
[19:33] <Wizard> Tested, at least.
[19:33] <Wizard> X0153R: try sudo apt-get update first.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> compiling bleeding edge apps usually ends up with a wounded and crippled app ...very few work properly IME ...it can be fun but beware of the consequences
[19:34] <X0153R> yeah that i do, i compiled a new version but this still dont work
[19:34] <lordievader> X0153R: Install it from the repo, that saves a lot of touble and usually works.
[19:36]  * Wizard nods.
[19:36] <X0153R> Okay i try thank you
[19:37] <lordievader> Yayy Wizard is approving ;)
[19:37]  * mydogsnameisrudy blinks ?
[19:38] <Wizard> Hey :<
[19:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> how much do you use wine anyway?
[19:39] <lordievader> Whom?
[19:39] <Wizard> Only for launching Europa Universalis yearly,
[19:39] <mydogsnameisrudy> anyone i guess ;)
[19:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> i have one old game i dont play anymore ;)
[19:40] <Wizard> :]
[19:40] <Wizard> Prince of Persia?
[19:40] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: Rarely, I tried it today with an application that would crash when it made a connection with the server.
[19:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> its called netstorm
[19:41]  * mydogsnameisrudy wonders why there is windows xp loaded on this computer also
[19:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> never use that eather
[19:41] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, are you on satellite internet?
[19:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya
[19:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> sucks
[19:42] <ShortStackSteven> Hey all
[19:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> i have no phone line , cable ect
[19:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey ShortStackSteven
[19:42] <BluesKaj> yeah mydogsnameisrudy , I figured from your IP
[19:42] <ShortStackSteven> I need some help configuring the resolution on my laptop
[19:42] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: How is the latency on such a connection?
[19:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> latency =?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> delay
[19:43] <ShortStackSteven> When I go to chose my resolution, I can only pick 1024x768. BUt i know it can go a lot higher than that (when I'm in Windows)
[19:43] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: Ping, delay, speed. That kind of stuff.
[19:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> ah lag   it sucks lol
[19:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> but its all that i can get here in the woods
[19:44] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: You might want to take a look at this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[19:44] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: Something is better than nothing, eh?
[19:44] <ShortStackSteven> already tried dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[19:44] <BluesKaj> ShortStackSteven, have you configured your graphics driver yet or are you using the install default?
[19:44] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya
[19:45] <ShortStackSteven> BluesKaj: reading...
[19:47] <mydogsnameisrudy> BluesKaj:  how are you using a secrue connection?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> in the freenode server options choose SSL , usually port 7000
[19:49] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, ^
[19:50] <mydogsnameisrudy> are you still using konversation?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:51] <mydogsnameisrudy> so is that in the settings
[19:54] <BluesKaj> server list >freenode>edit>the irc server>edit
[19:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> yea just found it
[19:55] <BluesKaj> quassel's ok ,but not my cuppa tea
[19:56] <Wizard> Quassel doesn't work well with znc.
[19:57] <Wizard> I prefer Konversation, it's more like irssi :]
[19:58] <lordievader> Never really got into those gui irc clients.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> are there any free znc servers?  eagles mentioned his friend was hosting some
[19:58] <Wizard> I use my friend's server.
[19:58] <Wizard> Actually, I have shell, ftp, www, even tomcat there :P
[19:59] <Wizard> But that's OT.
[20:00] <BluesKaj> yeah well that's what i meant Wizard ..was doing some research , but most znc shells cost money just keep an irc connection open in my case
[20:00] <BluesKaj> just to keep
[20:01] <Wizard> I'll ask him.
[20:01] <Wizard> I bet he won't have anything against one more account.
[20:04] <ShortStackSteven> Bluskaj: I got all the way down to the line "xrandr --output..." and then get error "Configure crtc 0 failed"
[20:05] <ShortStackSteven> Bluskaj: googling
[20:05] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: What is the exact command you are entering?
[20:06] <ShortStackSteven> blueskaj: exactly as it s in the writeup
[20:06] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: You know the variable after --output is dependend on your setup right?
[20:06] <ShortStackSteven> I can't copy and pste here because I'm not using IRC on that comp
[20:07] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: Yes. When I do xrandr it says "default attached..."
[20:07] <ShortStackSteven> sorry "connected"
[20:08] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: Ok, so you need xrandr --output default --<whatever>
[20:08] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: which is what I did. Typed it in exactly as the wrticle has it
[20:09] <ShortStackSteven> How do I make sure the intel driver is installed?
[20:09] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: As I said a lot of the article is system configuration dependend, so just copy-pasting will not work.
[20:11] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: how do I see if the intel driver is installed or not?
[20:11] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: Look in muon/synaptic/<what-have-you> for the intel drivers, it is probably installed.
[20:14] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: But again, what was the exact command you entered when it gave you an error?
[20:15] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: xrandr --output default --mode 1280x1024_60.00
[20:16] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: Btw, if you've succesfully completed the --newmode and the --addmode commands, it should also be available in the kde System Settings.
[20:19] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: Yes, you're right. It is there. But when I apply it the setting reverts back to 1024x768
[20:20] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: Is it even supported?
[20:21] <shan> L3top: hey, how are you doing? :)
[20:21] <shan> lordievader: hi :)
[20:22] <shan> once i was told about a command like 'lsgpu' but it's not working now?
[20:22] <lordievader> shan: Good evening.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ShortStackSteven, lets see which driver in use ,  sudo lshw -C video| grep driver
[20:24] <L3top> lspci | grep VGA
[20:24] <shan> lordievader: tnx
[20:24] <lordievader> shan: ?
[20:24] <shan> L3top: so there is no command using these alpha's 'GPU'?
[20:25] <shan> L3top: ah, typo error.... :) how are you doing today :)
[20:25] <L3top> I am not sure I understand the question, but lspci/lshw will give you the hw output.
[20:28] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: it lists intel corporation 2nd generation core porcessor family integrated graphics controller (rev 09)
[20:30] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: I asked whether or not the display supports the resolution...
[20:30] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: checking
[20:34] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: looks like maybe not...
[20:34] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: that was an easy one :)
[20:34] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: There you go.
[20:35] <shan> L3top: what does this tell. this is responce to lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] (rev a3)
[20:35] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: THanks for the article though (blueskaj I think it was). That was the big piece. And you pointing out that I'm trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
[20:36] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: I did sent you the article :P
[20:36] <shan> L3top: nvidia current will work for those.
[20:36] <lordievader> ShortStackSteven: But no problem :)
[20:36] <L3top> shan: lspci -nn | grep vga
[20:37] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: indeed you did :)
[20:37] <L3top> shan=user name cancer I presume?
[20:37] <ShortStackSteven> lordievader: checking on the possible resolutions because the highest is too small for me I think. I'll let you knw if it works
[20:40] <L3top> ShortStackSteven: if you are referring to the size of the text/images, you can change those in system settings.
[20:40] <cancer> L3top: :)
[20:41] <BluesKaj> ShortStackSteven, the credit goes to lordievader for pointing you to the article :)
[20:41] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep vga
[20:43] <cancer> L3top: what this command do?
[20:44] <L3top> It will give the output of lspci with numerical assignments (including the pci id I need), and the grep finds the GPU quickly
[20:45] <cancer> L3top: empty
[20:45] <L3top> sorry
[20:45] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:46] <cancer> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] [10de:0309] (rev a2)
[20:46] <L3top> nvidia-173
[20:47] <L3top> that is not the same card.
[20:47] <L3top> that is the old card
[20:48] <L3top> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] [10de:0309] (rev a2) != 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] (rev a3)
[20:48] <cancer> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] [10de:0253] (rev a3)
[20:49] <cancer> nvidia-96?
[20:49] <cancer> or other?
[20:49] <L3top> thats more like it.
[20:49] <L3top> thats even worse... yes the 96
[20:49] <cancer> you mean fx1000 was even better.
[20:50] <cancer> L3top: what if i install drivers with sudo apt-get nvidia-current. after this do i need to run other commands....?
[20:52] <L3top> it will not work
[20:52] <L3top> nvidia-current will not run either of those
[20:52] <L3top> you are shoving  a square peg in a round hole
[20:53] <L3top> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130789&cm_sp=Cat_Video_Cards_%26%2338%3b_Video_Devices-_-Featured_Merchant-_-14-130-789
[20:53] <L3top> drop the hammer.
[20:55] <cancer> L3top: that is a fine prod. already got 1gb inno 3d ddr 5. :)
[20:57] <soee> anyone using KDE 4.9beta ?
[21:02] <Wizard> soee: KDE developers? :P
[21:02] <soee> ;]
[21:06] <cancer> Wizard: is it safe to install Lamp on ubuntu?
[21:07] <Wizard> apache, mysql, php?
[21:07] <lordievader> cancer: Yes, but if you are going to run a server, add a firewall too.
[21:07] <Wizard> All packages are supported by cannonical, so if you use packages from repo - definitely yes.
[21:11] <cancer> Wizard: i don't have exact knowledge about apache, mysql, php, but once running a site and used myphpadmin.... blah blah sort :D. yes to run webpage/site.... and is that possible to use it as a server for hiding or makin my ip more anonymous. any way for that. and how to put firewall too.
[21:11] <cancer> lordievader: ^
[21:12] <Wizard> DON'T even think about phpmyadmin.
[21:12] <lordievader> cancer: A website is not anonymous, else no one could reach it (unless that is what you want).
[21:12] <lordievader> Wizard: What is wrong with phpmyadmin?
[21:12] <Wizard> It sucks.
[21:12] <Wizard> And does it badly.
[21:12] <lordievader> Wizard: Nah it's allright, for a MySQL noob (like myself) it is usefull.
[21:13] <Wizard> Better use tool like SquirrelSQL.
[21:13] <Wizard> And VPN.
[21:14] <lordievader> cancer: Check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046738
[21:14] <Solak> Hello.
[21:15] <lordievader> cancer: Some stuff is kind of outdated, but overall a good read.
[21:15] <cancer> lordievader: i mean i can get sasl or tor like security from that server.
[21:15] <Solak> lordievader: xubuntu 12.04 it is now, and runs fine :)
[21:16] <Solak> lordievader: except one thing: I used the upgrade option, but wonder how to reactivate a user...
[21:16] <lordievader> Solak: You where the one with 10.04 and the pae thing right?
[21:16] <Solak> lordievader: the map is there, but I can't login...
[21:16] <Galvatron> L3top: If you have a card thet old, you most likely also have the AGP slot, and this EVGA is a PCI-E one.
[21:16] <Solak> lordievader: yes.
[21:17] <Galvatron> L3top: In this case some GF7 (i.e. 7300/7600) is the best you can get.
[21:17] <lordievader> Solak: What do you mean with reactivating a user?
[21:18] <Solak> lordievader: the username as dir is still in /home , but loging in doesn't work.
[21:18] <Solak> +g
[21:18] <lordievader> Solak: Do you get an error?
[21:18] <Solak> lordievader: and adding the user might destroy what's inside (though I have backups of important files)
[21:19] <lordievader> Solak: Moving the files to another user isn't an option>
[21:19] <Solak> lordievader: login failed. and it isn't in the xfce userlist.
[21:19] <lordievader> >=?
[21:19] <Galvatron> soee: I tried the 4.9 b1 today, but currently it's neither faster, nor as stable as the 4.8.3. Trying it at this point only makes sense if you want to actively participate in the development.
[21:19] <Solak> yes, but then I need access to the files first :)
[21:20] <Solak> which requires a working login :)
[21:20] <lordievader> Solak: Is it encrypted?
[21:20] <Solak> no.
[21:20] <lordievader> Solak: Make a new user, and copy the files to that new user.
[21:21] <Solak> it would require root login, but that's not sudo.
[21:21] <lordievader> Solak: Can you login from a tty to the usr?
[21:21] <Solak> no. same problem.
[21:21] <Solak> I think the user formally doesn't exist anymore.
[21:22] <lordievader> Solak: Really? It complains that the user is not in the xfce dir?
[21:22] <Solak> the conversion-install only asked one user.
[21:22] <Solak> lordievader: no, it fails (login failed).
[21:22] <lordievader> Solak: Correct, that is normal.
[21:23] <lordievader> Solak: Since you have just installed it (a reinstall I presume) you could do it again, and this time making sure the username does not match what is already in /home.
[21:25] <Solak> lordievader: well, I just want to add the user, but what happens next? Will it keep the files?
[21:27] <lordievader> Solak: Kind of difficult to add a user without any access to the system. Anyhow, as long as /home is on a separate partition and you do not format the partition you should be safe. But it is allways a good idea to make a backup, you can do this from the live-cd.
[21:30] <lordievader> I'm going to bed, have a good evening/night everyone.
[21:31] <mydogsnameisrudy> nite
[21:48] <skreech_> Night
[21:49] <Galvatron> Night
[21:49] <skreech_> Wizard: If something sucks and it sucks badly does that mean that it's very bad or relatively good?
[21:51] <asfyxia> skreech: are you talking about a machine or something else ?
[22:07] <skreech_> asfyxia: No Wizard made the comment that phpmyadmin sucks and it does that badly.
[23:51] <L3top> phpmyadmin is an indespensible tool that just should be much smarter.
[23:52] <L3top> It's not like it randomly blows up tables or anything... it just doesn't do things one would expect in the way one would expect it to. It is, however, very useful being only what it is. IMO.


[17:03] <ikonia> ro: if you run the following command, what is the output "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: wb
[17:03] <deskwizard> :) ty
[17:03] <axwhy> hi all
[17:04] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, reboot - plug CP2101 - dmesg
[17:04] <deskwizard> http://pastebin.com/4ALAYkyM
[17:04] <ro> ikonia: its in an interactive mode. http://pastebin.com/BaTCNDjY
[17:04] <axwhy> im using ubuntu 15.10, my laptop using processor amd fx-7600p. my problem is my fan is too noise, how to slove this problem?
[17:05] <ikonia> ro: so if you do "d" then "1" what happens
[17:05] <mircx1> Hola
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: dmesg shows no issues, device connects and recognizes
[17:05] <mircx1> please help
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you try the tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/plugin again?
[17:05] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:05] <ikonia> what do you mean reload ?
[17:05] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, of course
[17:06] <mircx1> i try to do something like it
[17:06] <mircx1> service php5 reload
[17:06] <ikonia> mircx1: you need to stop/start apache
[17:06] <ikonia> php is a module thats part of apache
[17:06] <mircx1> how?
[17:06] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/cYjim0ac
[17:07] <ikonia> ro: choose 5
[17:07] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, its not working... :| lol
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: did you have this on other ubuntu versions?
[17:07] <deskwizard> i mean, the tail ... whats the full command again ?
[17:07] <ikonia> mircx1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[17:07] <deskwizard> ok got it
[17:07] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WCbpzTtn
[17:08] <ikonia> ro: now do "w"
[17:08] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:08] <profall> Is this the Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS support channel?
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:08] <mircx1> 10
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: that's not a version
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> profall: #ubuntu-server might help
[17:08] <mircx1> 10.0.4
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: are you sure you're not using centos ?
[17:08] <mircx1> no
[17:08] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/6BPRUx3w
[17:08] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: previously im using 14.04, i slove the problem using indicator-freq. but this version doesn't work.
[17:09] <mircx1> i use with ubuntu 10.0.4
[17:09] <ikonia> can I see the output of uname -a please mircx1
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: we keep getting that mtp issue
[17:09] <ro> ikonia: It says 'Device or resource busy'. How can I free the drive?
[17:09] <ikonia> ro: thats fine, did it exit the fdisk shell ?
[17:09] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, yes, but as I mentionned, I get the same error with the FTDI and ACM drivers and those work
[17:09] <mircx1> Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-74-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 28 10:02:35 UTC 2015 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:09] <deskwizard> I think the ID isnt in the driver list or soemthing
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: maybe check lspci -nn
[17:10] <ro> ikonia: yes http://pastebin.com/V4h3wiNM
[17:10] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, pci? not usb ?
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: yeah sorry
[17:10] <ikonia> ro: ok, so if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" now, do you see partition 5 as gone ?
[17:10] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, hey im getting good at this :P
[17:10] <ro> ikonia: yes, http://pastebin.com/KdFfjunE
[17:11] <ikonia> ro: ok, do the same with partition 2 and partition 1
[17:11] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, so if its listed there, its detected by the driver ... I wonder why the device doesnt get created :|
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: file a bug against 15.10 or go back to LTS?
[17:12] <ro> ikonia: done, http://pastebin.com/mjc4asPH
[17:12] <mircx1> ikonia
[17:12] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:13] <ikonia> ro: ok, next time you reboot, your partitions will be gone
[17:13] <ikonia> mircx1: you need to stop and start apache
[17:13] <ikonia> mircx1: what's the actual problem
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: you can try ubuntu-drivers devices from terminal maybe
[17:13] <ro> ikonia: will do. be back in 5. Thanks so much for the help! :)
[17:14] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, no result (null return)
[17:15] <deskwizard> same thing if I run it as root
[17:15] <Kartagis> !info avconv
[17:15] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: hmm i cannot going back. i love this version, all my hardware work in this version. except fan is too noise and multi touch on touchpad.
[17:15] <Kartagis> !info avconv trusty
[17:15] <Kartagis> !find avconv
[17:15] <deskwizard> axwhy, what does the CPU load look like at idle ?
[17:16] <Kartagis> heh
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: try file a new bug against indicator-freq?
[17:17] <deskwizard> are you f.. kidding me
[17:17] <deskwizard> # sec
[17:17] <deskwizard> 1 sec
[17:17] <ikonia> deskwizard: no need for language
[17:17] <ikonia> if you can't communicate without trying to swear, don'e
[17:17] <ikonia> don't
[17:18] <axwhy> deskwizard: fan still noise
[17:18] <ro> ikona: no luck. i ran 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' and I see the old partitions. But the partitions were gone before i rebooted
[17:18] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you check the silabs website, seems like it has linux firmware/drivers
[17:18] <ikonia> ro: really,
[17:18] <ikonia> ro: what type of disk is this ?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: maybe you find something usefull?
[17:19] <ro> ikona: MX100 SSD 512 gb. I just got it from amazon a week ago
[17:19] <ikonia> crucial SSD, interesting
[17:19] <ikonia> ro: can I take a look at the output of "mount" again from your current system please
[17:19] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, I'll look into it. thanks for your help
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: hope you get it working
[17:20] <mhoney> Does anyone know of an open source rdp/vnc connection broker like logmein?  I found Guacamole, but that is limited to one-site per instance.  I'd like to find something that is cloud based
[17:20] <ro> ikona: should I do 'sudo mount' or just 'mount'? Does it make a difference?
[17:20] <ikonia> ro: just mount is fine
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> mhoney: be carefull with remote software, try ssh instead
[17:20] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/RzZXYN7X
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> ro: did you check if your ssd has firmware updates?
[17:21] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, likely not, would have been more practical, but I'll just use another one for now, I don't feel like compiling drivers and stuff on a sunday morning
[17:21] <ikonia> ro: what do you see in "ls -la /run/user/1000/gvfs"
[17:21] <deskwizard> but then again, I hate it when machines win on me so...
[17:21] <deskwizard> game on.
[17:22] <deskwizard> well, I guess not.
[17:22] <deskwizard> *Note: The Linux 3.x.x version of the driver is maintained in the current Linux 3.x.x tree at www.kernel.org.
[17:22] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/nf2GgH5p
[17:23] <deskwizard> lets see what happens if I try a PL2030...
[17:23] <ro> lotuspsychje: the firmware of the ssd? or the computer?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> ro: yeah ssd website mostly have recent firmware upgrades, might be worth checking it also
[17:24] <ikonia> ro: ok, so "sudo fuser -fuc /dev/sdb5"
[17:25] <deskwizard> damn, another FTDI, well so much for the PL test
[17:25] <deskwizard> how does one file a bug report for such an issue lotuspsychje ?
[17:25] <ro> ikona: it says '/dev/sdb5 does not exist'
[17:25] <ikonia> ro: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" again please
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !bug | deskwizard
[17:25] <Redblue> Hi. How many commands does the average Ubuntu user know from memory?
[17:26] <ikonia> Redblue: not really a relevent question
[17:26] <deskwizard> Redblue, depends on the amount of issues he/she had :P
[17:26] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/LvXnpJbz
[17:26] <Redblue> ikonia, just a curiosity quetion
[17:27] <ikonia> ro: "ls -la /dev/sdb*"
[17:28] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/qxg9zSpf
[17:28] <ikonia> ro: intersting, 5 is gone, but still showing on the partition table
[17:29] <jtreminio> Hello! Does anyone know under what user the cron-apt program installs its cron?
[17:29] <ikonia> ro: lets go back and try your original idea
[17:29] <ikonia> ro: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc
[17:30] <ikonia> ro: oops, sorry ignore that
[17:30] <ikonia> gave you the wrong sectors
[17:30] <blb31750> Redblue: 42
[17:30] <ro> ikona: could this be a firmware thing? as someone else suggested?
[17:30] <ikonia> ro: I don't think so
[17:31] <ikonia> ro: run the dd command I gave you, lets see what it does first
[17:31] <ikonia> ro: don't forget sudo
[17:31] <Redblue> blb31750, that's a lot, I think I know 10 at the most, and only understand 3 of them if any
[17:31] <blb31750> does ubu use systemd in 15.10?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: under the user who's using it?
[17:31] <ro> ikona: alright. http://pastebin.com/pAPJEMUh
[17:31] <k1l_> blb31750: ubuntu uses systemd since 15.04
[17:32] <blb31750> ok, thanks
[17:32] <ro> ikona: fdisk -l shows me part 1,2 and 5. Maybe a reboot will help?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: is the tool meant for creating a cron to get automatic updates on the user right?
[17:32] <ikonia> ro: try it, it shouldn't matter though, unless it's mounted
[17:33] <ro> ikona: sure. when in doubt reboot haha. be back in 5
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Redblue maybe memorize some here?
[17:34] <jtreminio> lotuspsychje: its cron job wasn't showing up when I listed them by user; however, I've decided to use anacron instead. Thanks though!
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: ok good luck
[17:34] <Redblue> lotuspsychje, will check it out, thanks
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> ro: can you tell us how your ssd is connected to pc, changed anything in bios?
[17:36] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, sorry to be a pain about this but, how would one file a kernel panic for example? I can't do ubuntu-bug since its panicked... will it detect the panic if I run it after I rebooted without the troublesome hardware?
[17:36] <deskwizard> nevermind
[17:36] <Li> what's the name of files browser application if I wanted to run from command line?
[17:36] <deskwizard> lets make ubuntu-bug work first...
[17:36] <ro> ikona: fdisk -l shows part 1,2,5
[17:37] <ikonia> ro: it's almost as if it's not being written to, you could have a duff drive
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Li: gksu nautilus
[17:37] <Li> lotuspsychje: what is that?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Li: the file browser you asked
[17:38] <ro> ikona: I had a sneaking suspicion that drive was broken. Anyway we can confirm with a test? I know you can do memtest for ram. is there something similar for hdds?
[17:38] <ikonia> ro: can you do a more agressive test, how big is this disk, 500mb ?
[17:38] <ro> ikona: 512 gb
[17:38] <Li> lotuspsychje: The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[17:38] <Li> sudo apt-get install gksu
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> Li: you can just start nautilus from terminal without gksu also
[17:39] <Li> lotuspsychje: however it ran when I typed nautilus alone
[17:39] <ikonia> ro: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=25m
[17:39] <ikonia> ro: that will put zeros across the whole drive
[17:39] <ikonia> if that doesn't work, your drive is not being written to, it will take some time though, so be patient
[17:40] <ro> ikona: 'invalid number 25m' i think m needs to be 'M'?
[17:40] <ikonia> sorry, M yes
[17:41] <ro> ikona: got it.
[17:41] <thepad> for some reason kodi or xbmc wont run on my system
[17:41] <thepad> i tried installing of manager and site
[17:41] <ro> ikona: the cursor went to the next line with no output. Should it be giving me output?
[17:41] <thepad> any ideas
[17:42] <thepad> kodi problems
[17:43] <ikonia> ro: silent
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> hi :) i've been told to come here for help. apparently my graphics setup is broken:
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760 OEM] [10de:118e] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8477] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46 Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e8000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at e000 [size=1
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> ] [size=512K] Capabilities: <acces
[17:46] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: who told you to come here for help ?
[17:46] <ikonia> please don't paste big lines into the channel, use a pastebin TheGlobefish
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> sircmpwn from #truecraft on esper
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> s denied> Kernel driver in use: nouveau  01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e0a] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8477]
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: so this channel is an ubuntu technical support channel,
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> thats my graphics setup
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> i was confused at first
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> because i'm on debian
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: please stop pasting long lines into this channel, use pastebin.ubuntu.com to share info
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: ok, then the channel you want is #debian
[17:47] <ikonia> not #ubuntu
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> ok, thanks :)
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: if you do "/join #debian" you'll be fine
[17:55] <motaka2> TJ- wont come here tonight ?
[17:56] <welle_> hi all
[17:56] <ikonia> motaka2: who knows,
[17:56] <motaka2> ikonia: :)
[17:57] <blb31750> TheGlobefish: yeah, paste your lines there...
[17:57] <motaka2> ikonia: Something happened to my ubuntu 12.04, everyone told me to install a clean version but TJ- was trying to find out what the problem was.
[17:57] <ikonia> ok ?
[17:58] <niklas> hey
[17:58] <welle_> what do you guys think of ubuntu 15.10
[17:58] <niklas> its cool
[17:58] <k1l_> welle_: it works
[17:58] <blb31750> welle_: it's newer as 15.04
[17:58] <welle_> you dont say
[17:58] <niklas> the next lts version 16.04
[17:59] <k1l_> welle_: we stick to precise support issues in here. so is there a question?
[17:59] <welle_> no sorry.. didnt mean to interrupt anything
[17:59] <k1l_> welle_: for general talk there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:59] <welle_> ok thanks
[18:02] <blb31750> there are 3 ubuntu releases left including 16.04. After that all names are used
[18:02] <k1l_> blb31750: and then it starts from the beginning again. so no need to worry
[18:06] <blb31750> hope it'll be called aaron aaronson then
[18:07] <k1l_> blb31750: thats more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic and not a technical issue for this channel
[18:08] <blb31750> ok ok, i'll go then
[18:11] <arno> cd
[18:12] <arno> ls -l
[18:14] <AbuDhar> how to check which graphics card is used when I game e.g.?
[18:14] <AbuDhar> in terminal
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: sudo lshw -C video
[18:18] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i'm trying to install mono-develop not from the marketplace, because the marketplace gives me version 2.8.X.X. and I want the latest version of MonoDevelop. I followed the original manual of monodevelop add a repo, but it's not working when I try apt-get install mono-complete. Can anyone help me?
[18:18] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10589809 so the GeForce is being used lotuspsychje?
[18:19] <nitrodriver> Hi
[18:19] <nitrodriver> Who is french ?
[18:20] <Guest33780> after i install vsftpd and create user and pass, i can not login to ftp what im doing wrong ?
[18:20] <zykotick9> !fr | nitrodriver
[18:21] <Martijn-NL> Why is the Ubuntu Marketplace not giving me the latest version of MonoDevelop? :-(
[18:23] <istanbul> slm
[18:23] <istanbul> herkese
[18:23] <istanbul> selam
[18:24] <AbuDhar> wa alaykum salaam :)
[18:30] <ilyass> hello
[18:30] <AbuDhar> anyone who wants to answer me?
[18:31] <ilyass> how are you ?
[18:31] <nootan> anyone there is a problem with my vidalia.
[18:31] <ikonia> fine ilyass, welcome to #ubuntu technical support channel
[18:32] <AbuDhar> ikonia: http://pastie.org/10589809
[18:32] <nootan> setup
[18:32] <AbuDhar> which one is currently used?
[18:32] <ikonia> AbuDhar: why are you giving me that paste ?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: have you installed nvidia-prime?
[18:32] <ilyass> ohh thank's ikonia
[18:32] <AbuDhar> let me check
[18:33] <AbuDhar> yeah it is installed lotuspsychje
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: ubuntu version and driver loaded?
[18:33] <nootan> anyone there is a problem with my vidalia setup.tor is not running.
[18:33] <AbuDhar> Ubuntu version 14.04
[18:33] <AbuDhar> not sure about the driver is loaded..
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you can check active driver in additional drivers
[18:33] <ilyass> what do you do her in #ubuntu technical support channel ???
[18:33] <AbuDhar> checking
[18:34] <ikonia> ilyass: support people with ubuntu technical problems
[18:34] <AbuDhar> Using Nvidia binary driver lotuspsychje
[18:34] <ilyass> oh cool :D
[18:34] <AbuDhar> 355
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: try 304 or 346 perhaps
[18:34] <AbuDhar> version 355.06 from nvidia-355
[18:35] <zykotick9> nootan: note vidalia is discontinued!  see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidalia_%28software%29
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: did you enable performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[18:35] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: no..
[18:35] <AbuDhar> let me try that
[18:35] <AbuDhar> I did
[18:35] <AbuDhar> it doesn't allow me lotuspsychje
[18:35] <AbuDhar> I just get a warning sign when I try that
[18:36] <AbuDhar> and switches back to Intel saving mode
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: hmmm, try another driver in your list
[18:36] <liber> i removed some pkgs including xorg mesa and gpu driver and installed them again a little after that but now x wont start. only error it gives is /usr/bin/openbox error wile loading shared libraries: libEGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no suck file or directory, any idea what this is?
[18:36] <AbuDhar> trying the 304
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: ok reboot after + performance mode try
[18:37] <AbuDhar> sure. thanks! :)
[18:37] <AbuDhar> I have lags in CSS so I thought it was so weird lol
[18:37] <ikonia> be aware you'll not get good support/performance via wine
[18:37] <AbuDhar> not that my graphics card is anything special... just that it should be able to handle that game.
[18:37] <ikonia> it's a lottery depending on card/wine version/game
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: if your nvidia card isnt enabled on nvidia-settings to performance mode nothing will work on high video
[18:38] <AbuDhar> ah ok lotuspsychje :) but thanks for helping me anyway
[18:38] <AbuDhar> I will try after a reboot to see if I can change that.
[18:41] <Ricky_Rat5005> I'm running Ubuntu Server 14, trying to install vsftpd, it gets to the line removing tftpd and just hangs for hours. Any suggestions? I've tried to remove tftpd on it's own and it just hangs as well.
[18:42] <daftykins> i would not recommend using standard ancient FTP on a server in 2015 regardless, Ricky_Rat5005
[18:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> daftykins - I need either tftp or ftp for Freepbx. What would you recommend for that?
[18:45] <daftykins> never used any phone systems.
[18:45] <daftykins> so it's solely for the software and config update provision via trivial FTP?
[18:45] <daftykins> Ricky_Rat5005: oh your removal fail could be down to not stopping the service beforehand?
[18:46] <Ricky_Rat5005> Yes, either tftp or ftp, but polycom phones use ftp by default I believe.
[18:47] <AbuDhar> Error: alternatives are not set up properly
[18:47] <AbuDhar> Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[18:47] <AbuDhar> when I try this: sudo prime-select nvidia
[18:47] <AbuDhar> lotharn:
[18:47] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje:
[18:47] <AbuDhar> sorry lotharn :D
[18:47] <Ricky_Rat5005> daftykins ok, I will check that. But need one of the two.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: wich driver your on now?
[18:48] <AbuDhar> 304.131
[18:49] <AbuDhar> I don't need bumblebee btw?
[18:49] <AbuDhar> since it is intel + nvidia
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: no, bumblebee is outdated
[18:49] <AbuDhar> oh
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: nvidia-prime replaces it
[18:49] <AbuDhar> should I try the 352.63 version ?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you just had that version active no?
[18:50] <AbuDhar> no I think that was 355
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: try 346 perhaps
[18:50] <dbugger> Hey guys. Can someone help me? I cant connect through SSH to my server, even though trough my provider, which offers a "Console view" mode I can do it without problem! I am using in both same user and password... I dont understand!
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> if that shows
[18:50] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: it's not listed.
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: and you cant enable performance mode on 340?
[18:51] <daftykins> dbugger: VPS from who?
[18:51] <AbuDhar> nope not on 304.. it gives me Error: alternatives are not set up properly
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: weird
[18:51] <AbuDhar> should I try 340?
[18:51] <AbuDhar> this 304 is a legacy driver
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you can try
[18:52] <dbugger> daftykins, DigitalOcean
[18:52] <AbuDhar> trying.. also have to check BIOS this time :D
[18:52] <daftykins> dbugger: ah same here. so you still receive the login prompt when you SSH in?
[18:53] <dbugger> daftykins, I get a "Permission denied"
[18:53] <dbugger> but on the console of the website, I can log without a problem
[18:53] <daftykins> dbugger: yep, is this the root user+pass they email you with on setup?
[18:54] <dbugger> daftykins, I reset the root password. I logged into the "Console View", logged in, and changed it
[18:54] <dbugger> daftykins, Now I can keep logging in on the website, but not in my local terminal
[18:54] <daftykins> right, but it's root you're using via SSH?
[18:54] <dbugger> yes, Im doing "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:54] <bekks> !root | dbugger
[18:55] <dbugger> what is even weirder, my public SSH is stored on authenticated_keys, so I should even get the password prompt
[18:55] <daftykins> dbugger: ok, restart sshd from the website console login to start
[18:55] <bekks> dbugger: I guess you are awawre of that, already?
[18:55] <dbugger> daftykins, ok...
[18:55] <daftykins> bekks: DO VPS' unfortunately come with root login as default
[18:55] <dbugger> bekks, please, im confused enough :)
[18:55] <bekks> dbugger: "authenticated_keys" is wrong: authorized_keys is correct.
[18:55] <dbugger> bekks, yeah, that. Typing mistak
[18:56] <dbugger> daftykins, Im gonna try restart sshd
[18:56] <assasin9000> hola soy nuevo
[18:56] <daftykins> dbugger: also for completeness, try just 'ssh IP'
[18:57] <daftykins> actually that'll try your current user; maybe 'ssh IP -u root'
[18:57] <dbugger> daftykins, Ok, Ill try
[18:57] <dbugger> daftykins, -u does not exist
[18:57] <daftykins> er make that -l root
[18:57] <daftykins> heh ;)
[18:58] <anon123> I uninstalled makedev and now unity, networking and many core applications are missing. How do I reinstall it from a livecd?
[18:58] <daftykins> anon123: with a chroot
[18:58] <anon123> I tried chroot
[18:58] <anon123> apt-get is broken
[18:58] <EriC^^> anon123: did you mount --bind /run ?
[18:58] <dbugger> daftykins, -l gives the same result
[18:59] <daftykins> you probably didn't apply a working resolv.conf for networking to work
[18:59] <dbugger> daftykins, and I completely restarted the machine. Same result
[18:59] <daftykins> try it again ;)
[18:59] <dbugger> daftykins, what do you want me to try?
[18:59] <Noxx_> Hello ^^ can i ask help with ubuntu here?
[18:59] <daftykins> dw the above was to anon123
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> Noxx_: yes
[18:59] <daftykins> dbugger: ok, try doing it from another user on your home system so rule out your existing user config
[19:00] <Noxx_> ahh great ty :)
[19:00] <anon123> I used http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html as a guide
[19:00] <dbugger> daftykins, I have no other user in my server
[19:00] <daftykins> so make one
[19:00] <dbugger> oh, on the local one
[19:00] <daftykins> or test from the guest session
[19:00] <anon123> for i in /sys /proc /run /dev /dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind "$i" "/mnt$i"; done
[19:00] <dbugger> Is my root ok?
[19:00] <AbuDhar> still not working lotuspsychje. tried with 340
[19:00] <daftykins> dbugger: check logs at both ends too, remember you can ssh with more debug output by adding '-vv'
[19:01] <daftykins> dbugger: yeah would't hurt for a test
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: thats weird mate
[19:01] <anon123> EricC^^: for i in /sys /proc /run /dev /dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind "$i" "/mnt$i"; done
[19:01] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451335/cant-switch-anymore-from-intel-to-nvidia-gpu
[19:01] <AbuDhar> looking at this
[19:01] <EriC^^> anon123: ok
[19:01] <daftykins> most optimus implementations don't offer switching ;)
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, this happened: http://pastebin.com/nn2PuHdS
[19:02] <AbuDhar> I remember getting it to work with bumblebee back then.
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, I tried from my local root, and it did not work neither
[19:02] <daftykins> dbugger: i bet you've got remote login via password disabled in sshd_config
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, how can I check that?
[19:03] <daftykins> /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the console web login
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: did you install bumblebee before?
[19:03] <Ricky_Rat5005> I've tried installing either/both tftpd and vsftpd... both hang during install when it says "Setting up (vsftpd or tftpd). I let them sit for hours but they just sit there.
[19:03] <AbuDhar> yeah long time ago.. not on this ubuntu install
[19:03] <AbuDhar> but on this machine.
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: or any drivers from nvidia site?
[19:04] <Noxx_> uhm how does one register on ubuntu forums lol?
[19:04] <Ricky_Rat5005> No other programs have issues with apt-get that I have installed.
[19:04] <AbuDhar> hmm I don't remember if I tried from their site
[19:04] <game0> guys, is there any program that can help me in browsing folders in ubuntu server easily, I'm facing a problem that I had to write each time command for moving folders inside the server
[19:04] <game0> is there any solution that can make it easily for me
[19:04] <minitrue> game0: ranger
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: maybe try that 352 then?
[19:04] <game0> UI
[19:04] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: trying.
[19:05] <bekks> game0: How about stating the actual problem?
[19:05] <dbugger> daftykins, what am I looking on that file?
[19:05] <daftykins> game0: learning to use CLI is a very useful skill, alternatively, you can mess around with sftp.
[19:05] <k1l_> game0: use tab completion
[19:05] <daftykins> dbugger: pastebin it
[19:05] <k1l_> game0: or use mc (midnight commander)
[19:05] <minitrue> game0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_%28file_manager%29
[19:05]  * Noxx_ slaps Noxx_ around a bit with a large fishbot
[19:06] <game0> my pc is windows version
[19:06] <daftykins> the easier you try and make computing tasks for yourself, the easier it'll be for you to forget how to do it properly when the time comes :)
[19:06] <dbugger> daftykins, Good I hate this console view...
[19:06] <game0> and I want to browse files in my ubuntu server easily
[19:06] <dbugger> daftykins, I think I saw "permitrootlogin no"
[19:06] <daftykins> dbugger: "cat file | nc termbin.com 9999" would be ace
[19:06] <daftykins> dbugger: heh that might have had a # in front though right?
[19:07] <k1l_> game0: stop asking. read the answers first
[19:08] <dbugger> daftykins, it has no comment. Im going to change it to "Yes"
[19:09] <daftykins> dbugger: i'd actually advise you create a standard user instead, with sudo rights
[19:09] <daftykins> for security purposes remote root login = a no no
[19:10] <dbugger> daftykins, indeed, but for the time being, Ill leave that on the todo list. I need to get something done..
[19:10] <k1l_> dbugger: on ubuntu dont use root. login as user and use sudo where needed
[19:10] <daftykins> ok, it's two commands though ;)
[19:10] <k1l_> !sudo | dbugger
[19:10] <daftykins> he knows, this is a digitalocean VPS where it's standard to be email'd a root password
[19:11] <dbugger> daftykins, it worked!
[19:12] <dbugger> daftykins, now Id like to know, why it asked me the password, when my public key was inside "authorized keys" ... =P
[19:12] <AbuDhar> not working.
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> !details | AbuDhar
[19:14] <Noxx_> how do i register on the ubuntu forums :P the register thingy's arent as normal on the site there lol
[19:15] <k1l_> Noxx_: #ubuntuforums for questions regarding the forums. that is where the admins and mods hang out
[19:16] <Noxx_> oh ok thx i thought i could post questions for me understanding buntu im a noob at linux Oo
[19:17] <k1l_> well, registering at a forums is not really an ubuntu issue :) running the browser on windows would have the same issue, i guess
[19:18] <daftykins> dbugger: you're on your own there, i don't do key auth
[19:18] <Noxx_> teh problem i have is i got me a 160g pata disk and i cant get it formated like normal it gives me 2 partitions while i want to completly whipe the disk then i get errors that the disk doesnt exist
[19:18] <k1l_> dbugger: reloaded the ssh service after including the key?
[19:19] <heypaleblue> exit
[19:19] <k1l_> Noxx_: with what program?
[19:19] <heypaleblue> exit
[19:19] <bekks> Noxx_: can you rephrase it, using interpunctuation?
[19:19] <Noxx_> just a sec im checking i tryed to do this with disks
[19:20] <k1l_> Noxx_: well, try "gparted"
[19:20] <AbuDhar> where did lotus go? :D
[19:20] <daftykins> to watch the boxing
[19:21] <Noxx_> yea that one i just got
[19:21] <AbuDhar> daftykins: aah ok
[19:21] <Noxx_> brb trying something
[19:21] <dbugger> k1l_, the key is there since months
[19:22] <k1l_> dbugger: doesnt matter if the ssh was not restart since then
[19:22] <AbuDhar> daftykins: I am able to switch to nvidia now but when I try to logout and login again it keeps blinking. Trying to restart now
[19:22] <akik> you don't need to restart sshd for adding public keys
[19:22] <mloza> Hi guys, I'm using mate as DE and I replaced the default mate-screensaver with xscreensaver and now the Lock Screen button in the System menu is not functioning. How do I edit the command of the Lock Screen in the System menu?
[19:22] <dbugger> k1l_, I just repowered the whole server. Isnt that the same?
[19:22] <Ricky_Rat5005> Can anyone tell me the difference btwn tftp and tftp-hpa?
[19:22] <k1l_> dbugger: yes
[19:23] <dbugger> k1l_, ignore what I just said... now it does not ask me for password...!
[19:23] <dbugger> I understand nothing o.O
[19:26] <AbuDhar> not working.. It keeps switching back to Intel after restart
[19:29] <AbuDhar> I am trying something drastic now :D
[19:33] <logglog> Hi ppl, is there a command or software that can shutdown my computer in couple hours or any time given
[19:34] <bekks> logglog: "shutdown".
[19:34] <logglog> xD
[19:34] <logglog> and how to make it shutdown in 1h?
[19:34] <logglog> i am new to linux
[19:34] <Canon> hello all I have a lvm that was in another laptop and I would like to mount it on another pc to take the data off. Using all the tricks tht are on different sites and nothing is working ... any ideas
[19:34] <isReKT2000> bekks, he's looking for a scheduling sort
[19:35] <bekks> isReKT2000: And thats what "shutdown" provides.
[19:35] <Canon> man shutdown
[19:35] <bekks> isReKT2000: "man shutdown", find the -h option.
[19:35] <k1l_> logglog: you really want to get used to manpages. they are the documentation from the commands. there you can seen what the command is able to do
[19:35] <Ricky_Rat5005> logglog take a look at the -t option
[19:35] <daftykins> Canon: that's unlikely, really you just want a hand? ;)
[19:36] <Canon> hand ?
[19:38] <SchrodingersScat> Ricky_Rat5005: that's not an option in my version, it would just be shutdown 60
[19:38] <daftykins> Canon: help.
[19:38] <daftykins> Canon: so did you identify the volume name on this other disk?
[19:40] <Canon> yes...  do you mean /dev or using vgscan
[19:43] <daftykins> Canon: i think you can spot them with 'blkid' too
[19:45] <guite> Hi everyone, my mouse is horribly fast and the speed cursor is at the lowest (in the mouse configuration screen)… Is there anything I can do to permanently slow down my mouse ?
[19:47] <l0p3n> Hey! Is there any backup tool to backup older files with longer intervals between the backups and newer files with shorter intervals between the backups?
[19:47] <sethj> is there a way I can force Unity to reload it's cache/db/whatever of .desktop files/launchers?
[19:47] <guite> OK… xinput made it
[19:47] <daftykins> !backup
[19:47] <Canon> found the volume name ...just cant mount it
[19:47] <guite> thanks anyway :D
[19:47] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Like a smark backup policy?
[19:48] <sethj> I put two new launchers in /usr/share/applications but even after 3 reboots Unity refuses to show them.
[19:48] <daftykins> Canon: ok so what file system does it use, what command are you entering and what error do you get?
[19:48] <l0p3n> flan_suse: I'm not sure what that is but maybe you could explain :)
[19:49] <AbuDhar> anyone who can try to help me solve this issue I have? I cannot switch to Nvidia in nvidia-settings
[19:49] <daftykins> optimus setups mostly don't work that way IME
[19:49] <Canon> ext4      sudo mount -ro /dev/sda3 /mnt/mount/
[19:50] <daftykins> Canon: that's not standard syntax - and you can't use sda3 like i'm sure i've told you before :)
[19:50] <daftykins> Canon: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:50] <flan_suse> l0p3n: How you described. Old files will be archived in more spaced out intervals (months, then years), but new backups will keep archives more frequently, like days, weeks, etc.
[19:50] <AbuDhar> daftykins: was that for me?
[19:51] <daftykins> yep
[19:51] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Yes that's exactly what I'm looking for!
[19:51] <flan_suse> l0p3n: BackInTime works in that sort of fasion.
[19:52] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Aha I will give it a try. Thanks!
[19:52] <AbuDhar> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_conf
[19:52] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Do you know how to add PPAs?
[19:54] <daftykins> Canon: so any luck on that command output?
[19:54] <AbuDhar> daftykins: let me show you my grub file ok ?
[19:54] <daftykins> no i'm good
[19:54] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Yes, how come?
[19:54] <AbuDhar> yes daftykins
[19:54] <AbuDhar> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i915.enable_rc6=0 i915.enable_fbc=0 i915.lvds_downc$
[19:54] <AbuDhar> I will remove those i915
[19:54] <AbuDhar> those are intels
[19:54] <AbuDhar> right?
[19:54] <flan_suse> l0p3n: The BackInTime PPA has the most recent versions and updates.
[19:55] <daftykins> yes
[19:55] <flan_suse> l0p3n: https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[19:55] <AbuDhar> ok... that's maybe why it doesn't work.
[19:55] <Canon> what do i use if not /dev/sda3
[19:55] <daftykins> Canon: we'd find that out if you gave me the output of the command i asked you to run in a timely fashion
[19:55] <Ricky_Rat5005> I have googled the 'snot' out this. I am trying to install tftp server on Ubuntu 14. I am following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201505/how-do-i-install-and-run-a-tftp-server but when I do an apt-get install xinetd tftpd tftp it gets to setting up xinetd and just hangs.
[19:55] <flan_suse> l0p3n: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bit-team/stable && sudo apt update
[19:56] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Great! I forgot to ask, can BackInTime make backups over the internet or a network?
[19:56] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I haven't used it in a long time.
[19:57] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I think over a local network, maybe? Not sure about over the internet. Unless it's a remote directory mounted to look like a local folder?
[19:57] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I know BackInTime will not work (or work "efficiently") if the file system does not support hard links.
[19:57] <Canon> the other thing that happens is that after a period of time the computer that i have the harddrive pluded into goes in sleep mode... screen turn blak and there is nothing i can do other then turn the system off
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> Ricky_Rat5005  running a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <Ricky_Rat5005> Thanks. I'll try there.
[19:59] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Thank you!
[19:59] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Welcome. :)
[20:02] <guite> OK, I think I have one more question: Is there a way to launch an xinput command when logging. I read about the .xsession files and it doesn’t seem to work anymore, lightdm uses *.desktop files which I don’t understand…
[20:02] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10590050 this is my current error
[20:02] <EriC^^> guite: startup apps
[20:03] <guite> hmmmm…
[20:03] <guite> EriC^^: thanks, I’ll try :)
[20:05] <EriC^^> guite: sure, np :)
[20:05] <Canon> any ideas
[20:07] <guite> EriC^^: …aaaaaaand it works ! \o/
[20:08] <guite> EriC^^: thanks again :)
[20:20] <hexabit> Hi
[20:21] <gt8ost4l> i need help i accidently deleted documents and all my files are gone can someone help me recover this file
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[20:22] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: on the terminal?
[20:23] <gt8ost4l> k1l: what
[20:23] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: how did you delete that documents? on the terminal? on the desktop? did you look into the trash?
[20:24] <gt8ost4l> yes itwas a mistake cause i thought mega nz upload it so i peremently deleted it
[20:24] <gt8ost4l> can i somehow get it back?
[20:25] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: see the bots message
[20:25] <ioria> gt8ost4l, in addition you can try with photorec in the testdisk package , but it will recover a lot of files
[20:26] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: in short: not without massive work, and not with a 100% chance.
[20:27] <Dredd|> UH
[20:27] <Dredd|> Why am I banned on ##Linux?
[20:27] <gt8ost4l> so what can get back my documenrts
[20:28] <Dredd|> I've never even chatted there.
[20:28] <Dredd|> Hello?
[20:28] <k1l_> Dredd|: ask in #freenode
[20:29] <SlidingHorn> Dredd|, You can ask in either #freenode or ##linux-ops.  Not really a topic for here though
[20:29] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: there is not a "click here and get all files back" button. so you need a lot of work
[20:29] <gt8ost4l> im not saying it would be easy
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> a gui to do it would be nice, unfortunately, i lack the skills to create one
[20:31] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: so see the answers you already got.
[20:33] <ioria> gt8ost4l, lets say that you removed mp3 files, you install testdisk, run sudo photorec , look for filters in Files Options,  and select only mp3, then it'll ask you where to save the files. but they are recovered under anoymous name  and you don't know if they are the files that you lost or files that you voluntary deleted
[20:37] <motaka2> ioria: Do you know if TJ comes today ?
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, really not ! how are you doing ?
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, linux-generic didn't work ?
[20:38] <motaka2> ioria: I am fine, Thank you. How are you ?
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, so and so, thanks
[20:39] <motaka2> ioria: no it didnt
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, how comes ?
[20:40] <motaka2> In the morning people said I have to install a clean ubuntu. I stayed for TJ- to come and confirms this. Do you think I should do that ?
[20:40] <motaka2> ioria: It is 00:10AM here
[20:40] <motaka2> I am still in the office
[20:41] <motaka2> ioria: ^^
[20:41] <motaka2> ioria: ^
[20:41] <ioria> motaka2, oh... sorry to hear that. well, a fresh install, is the quicker  solution ....
[20:42] <ioria> motaka2, can you paste uname -r ?
[20:42] <motaka2> ioria: I dont have harddrive to backup. but I will do that
[20:42] <motaka2> ioria: wait so I start the machine
[20:42] <ioria> motaka2,  ok
[20:44] <motaka2> ioria: do you want to see the content of /etc/ something in which grub configs are held ? akik told to modify it the other day
[20:44] <ioria> motaka2, uname -r
[20:48] <motaka2> ioria: 3.13.0-68-generic
[20:49] <ioria> motaka2, ok.... and the system boots normally ?
[20:49] <motaka2> ioria: define normally
[20:49] <motaka2> please
[20:50] <magmr> how to see the sha sum of a file from it's .sig ?
[20:50] <ioria> motaka2, are you still booting in text mode ?
[20:51] <motaka2> ioria: right now yes
[20:51] <ioria> motaka2, can you login ?
[20:51] <motaka2> ioria: I ran the last command from putty
[20:52] <motaka2> ioria: if you mean logging in from the greeter no, cause I dont see the GU, but I can login with putty or the text mode
[20:53] <ioria> motaka2, ok, if you run sudo service lightdm start , what you got ?
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ sudo service lightdm start
[20:54] <motaka2> [sudo] password for donkarlo:
[20:54] <motaka2> lightdm start/running, process 3132
[20:54] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[20:54] <daftykins> usually it auto switches to the GUI when that works
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: on the ubuntu PC i see the blank page that blinks some times
[20:55] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: It was just for lines
[20:55] <motaka2> four
[20:55] <ioria> motaka2, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[20:55] <motaka2> ioria: -rw------- 1 donkarlo donkarlo 0 Nov 22 18:23 /home/donkarlo/.Xauthority
[20:55] <daftykins> motaka2: just use the paste site next time please :)
[20:56] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:58] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565517/
[20:59] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:00] <daftykins> pesky google PPA ruining the day :)
[21:00] <kodis4piracy> hey guys how do i turn off the adds and spying in ubuntu
[21:01] <kodis4piracy> ads
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> kodis4piracy  define ads and spying
[21:01] <bekks> But not believing in rumors.
[21:01] <daftykins> !ops | kodis4piracy
[21:01] <bekks> *By
[21:01] <daftykins> regular troll, sort him out
[21:01] <bekks> ah.
[21:01] <kodis4piracy> MonkeyDust, when i search it shows me stuff from amazon and sends my searches to canonical
[21:02] <kodis4piracy> daftykins, i'm not here to troll just asking a question
[21:02] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565571/
[21:03] <ioria> motaka2, comment with a # the cdrom entries
[21:03] <motaka2> ioria: how ?
[21:04] <ioria> motaka2, the first two , i mean .... with this :  #
[21:04] <ioria> motaka2, should look like that   #  deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386
[21:05] <ioria> motaka2, both
[21:06] <motaka2> ioria: vim says it is read only
[21:06] <ioria> motaka2, with sudo
[21:07] <motaka2> ioria: done
[21:07] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:08] <ablegreen> Alright guys, need some help. I have a linux laptop. It's got wifi. It has no problem connecting to two of my wifi networks (each has a diff wifi brand router). However, for one of them, I have to reboot the dhcp server on the laptop to get an ip address every time I connect. Any ideas?
[21:08] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565651/
[21:08] <ioria> motaka2, ok, sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: It sounds pretty pointless to have a dhcp server running on your laptop when trying to connect to a wifi network.
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: your laptop needs a dhcp client, not a server.
[21:09] <ablegreen> bekks: Sorry, I meant dhcp client
[21:09] <ablegreen> not server, correct.
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: So what do you mean by "reboot the dhcp client"?
[21:10] <ablegreen> dhclient -r
[21:10] <ablegreen> Not exactly "reboot"
[21:10] <ablegreen> but forcing it to get a new ip address
[21:10] <ablegreen> then dhclient
[21:10] <bekks> Which is totally different from "rebooting".
[21:10] <ablegreen> Yes.
[21:10] <nmatrix9> Hey all just did a xubuntu update and for some reason my audio is now borked - I no longer can get sound and my audio card is no longer detected.
[21:11] <daftykins> so you open a terminal and run "dhclient <interface_name>" ?
[21:11] <bekks> ablegreen: So which IP does your laptop have prior and after connecting to that particular network?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> nmatrix9  in a terminal, type    alsamixer    see anything unusual?
[21:11] <ablegreen> bekks: None.
[21:11] <daftykins> i bet the first is APIPA :>
[21:11] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, cannot find file or directory
[21:12] <bekks> ablegreen: "none" for which part of my question?
[21:12] <ablegreen> bekks: No ip address before attempting to connect to the network
[21:12] <bekks> ablegreen: And after?
[21:13] <ablegreen> bekks: wpa_cli status says it's "Connected" but there's no ip address in ifconfig. Just says "BROADCASTING" or something.
[21:13] <bekks> ablegreen: That doesnt answer my question.
[21:13] <ablegreen> bekks: : No ip address before nor after.
[21:13] <bekks> ablegreen: then your wifi is not providing a DHCP server.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> nmatrix9  install alsa-utils, then try alsamixer
[21:14] <daftykins> i reckon the timing is just off
[21:14] <ablegreen> bekks: Works fine with my Macbook though?
[21:14] <daftykins> *other laptop
[21:14] <bekks> ablegreen: then how do you get a valid IP on that network?
[21:15] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, Hey FYI, I reinstalled my alsa-base, just recently not sure if I should reboot though.
[21:15] <ablegreen> bekks: I just told you earlier. By doing dhclient -r and then dhclient.
[21:15] <ablegreen> On my Macbook, I don't have to do that.
[21:15] <bekks> So name the IP you get after that.
[21:15] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, I have alsa-utils installed but I'm reinstalling again.
[21:15] <bekks> Thats what I asked you to do, earlier.
[21:15] <ablegreen> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:16] <bekks> ablegreen: arent you using NetworkManager for your wifi connection management?
[21:16] <ablegreen> bekks: No this is ubuntu server
[21:17] <bekks> Which is not a valid argument against using NetworkManager.
[21:17] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, I'm gonna reboot
[21:18] <ablegreen> bekks: Maybe there is something wrong with the router being configured wrong, idk
[21:19] <daftykins> ablegreen: are you using a hardcoded config in your interfaces file which calls wpa_supplicant to connect from this host?
[21:20] <ablegreen> daftykins: Yes but I use wpa_cli for controlling pa_supplicant to disconnect and connect from certain networks  as well
[21:21] <gasfor> hello
[21:22] <AbuDhar> anyone who has a tutorial on how I can get primusrun?
[21:22] <daftykins> ablegreen: try nm-cli
[21:23] <ablegreen> daftykins: Typo? I don't have that command
[21:24] <daftykins> no it wasn't
[21:24] <daftykins> oh no hyphen
[21:24] <ablegreen> daftykins: Looks like it uses network manager, which I'm not using
[21:25] <daftykins> right, which is the basis of my suggestion
[21:25] <daftykins> ...of trying something new!
[21:25] <daftykins> also, servers on wireless make me chuckle
[21:25] <ablegreen> daftykins: Ah okay.
[21:25] <ablegreen> daftykins: If it works, maybe I can look into its source to figure out why I can't get wpa_cli to connect & give me an ip address
[21:26] <ablegreen> Thanks dudes
[21:26] <daftykins> i reckon it's timing
[21:28] <ablegreen> daftykins: Timing between what?
[21:28] <ablegreen> I wonder if nmcli uses wpa_cli
[21:28] <daftykins> network association and DHCP query firing off
[21:29] <daftykins> i'd write a script to associate manually then run dhclient; if it fails and yet works with a brief delay between, you know you're onto something
[21:29] <bekks> I'd just use nm-cli
[21:30] <daftykins> i said that XD
[21:30] <bekks> daftykins: :)
[21:31]  * daftykins pats his box of cat6 UTP
[21:31] <ablegreen> daftykins: It already works with manually associating and then using dhclient. The problem is that why do I have to use dhclient?  I had been doing it manually via the terminal. Sorry.
[21:33] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: fdisk isnt even able to format something. fdisk partitions things.
[21:33] <ubuntu_noob> okay
[21:33] <daftykins> ablegreen: yeah, obviously you doing it manually takes long enough to work fine
[21:33] <ubuntu_noob> i deleted the three linux entries
[21:33] <ablegreen> ubuntu_noob: Hilarious name.
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> and now the pc doesnt boot ofc
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> grub rescue ...
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> and the ubuntu usb stick doesnt work either
[21:34] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: because you messed with the partitions.
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> i select install but nothing happens
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> yeah
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> i figured
[21:35] <daftykins> select 'try'
[21:35] <ablegreen> daftykins: What is your hypothesis?  How are we supposed to know what you did with it?
[21:39] <OerHeks> check or make a new bootable usb on the pc you work on, and try again
[21:39] <ubuntu_noob> yes i repeatedly used unetbootin
[21:39] <ubuntu_noob> the first ubuntu installation was succeful
[21:40] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: repeatedly using unetbootin is different from messing around with fdisk, as you meantioned before.
[21:40] <Bray90820> I am getting this error when I try to partition a 4TB drive with disk utility
[21:40] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KrhMWt46
[21:41] <daftykins> Bray90820: use GPT on a 4TB
[21:41] <ubuntu_noob> okay sure
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> 4TB? *drool*
[21:41] <daftykins> pssh, tiny spinning rust :P
[21:41] <Bray90820> MonkeyDust: I have 8TB in the computer
[21:41] <ubuntu_noob> fdisk displayed three partitions
[21:41] <daftykins> no reason for ext2 today imo too
[21:42] <ubuntu_noob> linux extended ...
[21:42] <ubuntu_noob> i deleted all of them
[21:42] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: now you know whats wrong.
[21:42] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: you deleted everything needed for a system to boot.
[21:43] <ubuntu_noob> i see
[21:43] <daftykins> or are we being told that was what was done prior to the second installation?
[21:43] <ubuntu_noob> doesnt the ubuntu installation create a new partition thingy?
[21:44] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: only if you tell it to do so.
[21:44] <ubuntu_noob> there is no second installation yet
[21:44] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10590329
[21:44] <AbuDhar> guys
[21:44] <AbuDhar> when I try to run optirun glxspheres64
[21:44] <AbuDhar> I get that error
[21:44] <daftykins> type on one line, don't keep dancing on the enter key.
[21:44] <Bray90820> daftykins: Thanks you it works now
[21:45] <daftykins> Bray90820: ^_^
[21:45] <daftykins> Bray90820: for reference, i believe MBR has a limit of 3.xTB
[21:45] <ubuntu_noob> bekks how do i tell it to do so?
[21:45] <AbuDhar> daftykins: you don't read it anyway.
[21:46] <Bray90820> daftykins: Well the drive is technically 3.64TB
[21:46] <daftykins> AbuDhar: i do, then i keep thinking to myself again "optimus setups mostly don't let you switch permanently like that" which you ignored earlier, so then i don't reply :)
[21:48] <AbuDhar> lol
[21:59] <AbuDhar> ://///////////
[21:59] <AbuDhar> I hate optimus
[21:59] <AbuDhar> and Nvidia
[21:59] <daftykins> AbuDhar: you know that prime works by using the nvidia chip on a per application basis, right?
[22:00] <daftykins> so you don't need to 'switch'
[22:01] <hubbunny> Hey guys, A question for anyone using ubuntu and snort. I'm trying to pull down rules using pulledpork for my snort installed but I keep getting: but keep getting a "you need to define an oinkcode" error. however as far as I'm aware I've declared my oinkcode in the pulledpork.conf file
[22:01] <AbuDhar> what's the difference betweehn nvidia-352 and nvidia-352-updates?
[22:01] <AbuDhar> between**
[22:01] <AbuDhar> daftykins: I know that. :)
[22:01] <AbuDhar> I don't want to switch.. Right now I just need optirun to work
[22:01] <daftykins> so then why do you fight it?
[22:02] <AbuDhar> I am not fighting man.. I need to get optirun to work so I can start steam with optirun
[22:02] <AbuDhar> or css for that matter
[22:03] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet they'll pick the right chip auto
[22:04] <AbuDhar> optirun glxspheres
[22:04] <AbuDhar> this gives me errors
[22:04] <AbuDhar> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0.  Please [  881.442580] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[22:05] <daftykins> and without trying to call optirun?
[22:06] <vicius> ciaoo
[22:06] <AbuDhar> glxspheres: command not found
[22:06] <AbuDhar> oh that worked
[22:06] <vicius> \list
[22:07] <AbuDhar> glxspheres64 worked
[22:07] <AbuDhar> so optirun works or not?
[22:07] <AbuDhar> I don't think it does
[22:07] <AbuDhar> I am so stressed by this. I have tried to fix it all day long.....
[22:07] <daftykins> a framerate should be indicative of that, plus temperature in nvidia-settings
 glxspheres: command not found  << what about you try it with a command that is installed?
[22:08] <daftykins> glxgears <--- common one provided by mesa-utils
[22:09] <AbuDhar> OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile
[22:09] <AbuDhar> So it's not nvidia as you see
[22:09] <AbuDhar> it's the freaking Intel card
[22:12] <AbuDhar> brb
[22:12] <AbuDhar> restarting for 20000th time
[22:24] <OerHeks> thank you for flying #freenode ✈
[22:30] <AbuDhar> daftykins: it still doesn't work ... I cannot do optirun glxgears
[22:31] <daftykins> ah well
[22:32] <AbuDhar> 2 sec. Let me try something else.
[22:35] <OpenSorce> I've been trying all day... can someone tell me how to set the default screen resolution for lightdm?
[22:43] <AbuDhar> daftykins: getting another error now :)
[22:43] <AbuDhar> [  309.152367] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU, secondary X is not active.
[22:56] <wyoung> hi, I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed on a HP Proliant DL320e.  When I upgrade kernel to 3.13.0-32 (from 3.13.0-24) my NIC and USB do not work.
[22:57] <daftykins> wyoung: we're already in the -60's so there's no point considering only 32
[22:59] <wyoung> daftykins: 3.13.0-32 is the latest version the RAID drivers support
[22:59] <bekks> wyoung: which driver exactly?
[23:00] <wyoung> bekks: hpvsa
[23:01] <wyoung> (HP Smart Array L120i)
[23:01] <wootehfoot> Hello! Tell me an easy way to acces Chromium's tmp files to copy a cached .flv file.
[23:02] <bekks> There is none.
[23:02] <daftykins> i would doubt changes are great enough to be of concern trying to apply them to newer kernels
[23:02] <goddard> the ubuntu sdk has a memory leak
[23:03] <bekks> daftykins: yes, because its a B320i controller - which is quite ancient.
[23:03] <wyoung> daftykins: I guess I could try although won't that taint the kernel further?
[23:03] <daftykins> either you run up to date or you don't, simples
[23:04] <MWM> do simlinks dissapear after a reboot?  can they be made permanent
[23:04] <wyoung> ok I have figured it out!  Ineeded to install the extra's package
[23:04] <bekks> MWM: symlinks are permanent.
[23:04] <wyoung> MWM: no, unless they are generated by an application that manages them, like udev for example
[23:05] <daftykins> wyoung: yeah that's where the firmware tends to come from, you should have linux-generic installed so that you aren't playing around with these manual installations
[23:05] <MWM> I made a symlink and observed it to work in xbmc.  when I try to view the same directory in a network share from windows, the directory is empty
[23:05] <daftykins> MWM: i bet you're either creating them on an unsupported file system, or you haven't configured samba properly to share them as so - they won't be supported by a Windows host viewing them though i should think.
[23:07] <MWM> windows (7) can see the parent directory but none of the sub directories... does this rule out an improper file syste,?  it is ext4 btw
[23:07] <daftykins> example evidence would be a lot better to explain this
[23:09] <MWM> as a matter of fact it can see sub-directories in a non symlinked directory..... Ill bet I have to add the symlinked directory to samba as well.... ill be back if it downst work :D
[23:12] <k1l> !bug | goddard
[23:15] <MWM> hah.  somehow the symlinked directories became unmounted.  thank you for the help guys
[23:30] <AbuDhar>  /usr/bin/vglrun: 246: exec: Counter-Strike Source/: Permission denied
[23:30] <AbuDhar> optirun works now btw
[23:46] <tachys> I have a problem. I copied over my home directory "/home/my_username" from an external hard drive onto my existing Ubuntu installation's home directory. Now for some reason I can't open Firefox nor the terminal, even when I search for it or use ctrl + alt + t.
[23:47] <tachys> It looks like if I click any of the icons on the left, none of them open anything.
[23:47] <tachys> except for files.
[23:47] <k1l> tachys: what is "ls -al" in that homefolder? does it name your username on the owner and group?
[23:47] <compdoc> ubuntu update broke my virt-manager :(
[23:47] <daftykins> i'd bet the files are still owned as root, "ls -al /home/username/" to confirm
[23:48] <tachys> I don't have a terminal, so I can't check that.
[23:48] <Sonderblade> is it just me or dae have trouble connecting to the chat.freenode.net server?
[23:48] <k1l> tachys: another user on that system besides guest account?
[23:48] <[n0mad]> Sonderblade: there's currently some issues
[23:48] <k1l> Sonderblade: they are under ddos. more infos in #freenode
[23:48] <inteus> Sonderblade: freenode has been getting DDoS'd lately
[23:49] <daftykins> tachys: can from TTY1, ctrl+alt+F1
[23:49] <tachys> No, I just reinstalled ubuntu, then spent half the day copying files over from the external HDD to my new ubuntu isntallation's drive at /home/my_username
[23:49] <daftykins> where there's a will, there's a way.
[23:49] <tachys> daftykins: yes that works!
[23:49] <daftykins> right so run the above.
[23:49] <Sonderblade> inteus, no0mad: so it's not just me, you also have the problem?
[23:50] <tachys> daftykins: nope, they are all owned my my_username
[23:50] <daftykins> Sonderblade: ask in #freenode - nothing to do with ubuntu.
[23:50] <k1l> tachys: "sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/"  replace user with your exact username
[23:50] <daftykins> tachys: how are the perms?
[23:51] <tachys> k1l: I've already done that. owner and group are user:user
[23:52] <tachys> daftykins: there are several different files permissions, but those all look as expected.
[23:53] <tachys> How do I get out of the tty mode?
[23:53] <tachys> back to desktop.
[23:53] <daftykins> F7
[23:53] <daftykins> so you ran it before you actually checked?
[23:54] <tachys> daftykins: no, i ran it when I copied over the files to the external HDD.
[23:54] <daftykins> that's not relevant
[23:54] <tachys> daftkins: ok I will do it
[23:55] <daftykins> do what, i didn't suggest anything...
[23:55] <rypervenche> k1l did.
[23:55]  * daftykins slow claps
[23:55] <tachys> daftykins: sorry, I thought you suggested the ""sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/"  replace user with your exact username"
[23:56] <alonso> hello
[23:56] <tachys> OK so that doesn't do anything, none of the programs (firefox, terminal, gedit) work.
[23:56] <tachys> OK I gtg thanks for the help.
[23:56] <rypervenche> tachys: Did you try...nvm...