[20:32] <soundray> shazzam: install Ubuntu on your internal drive first, so you know the basics of that. Allow the installer to do the partitioning for you, which will give you an initial idea of what it's about.
[20:32] <cgentry72> what does it mean unable to resolve host?
[20:32] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam easier.. yet
[20:32] <marx2k> yaxx: aptitude search <search term>
[20:33] <topgun17> I can't get the webmin packag via apt/
[20:33] <marx2k> cgentry72: DNS server not working
[20:33] <soundray> shazzam: even if you install Ubuntu to your external HD, it won't necessarily boot elsewhere.
[20:33] <stu> topgun17: download it from webmin website and then dpkg --install packagename
[20:33] <CShadowRun> Can someone please tell me how to install a gedit plugin?
[20:33] <Starnestommy> cgentry72: what's putting out that error?
[20:33] <robg_> shazzam: you must first check of Windows is not taking all the space on the harddrive.
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[20:33] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: yeah, I know ubuntu's wow factor after using gentoo for a couple years
[20:33] <shazzam> if ur telling me to get a feel of it then i shud just get the live cd thingy rite?
[20:33] <chn_boy> hello
[20:33] <soundray> shazzam: if you want a carry-around-Ubuntu, it's best to use the live CD for that.
[20:33] <cgentry72> Starnestommy: anytime i do a sudo
[20:34] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, we use gentoo at the ISP i work at
[20:34] <stu> has anyone got their iMac remote control working in hardy ??
[20:34] <chn_boy> I want to install web server for PHP.
[20:34] <chn_boy> what is the best one??
[20:34] <soundray> shazzam: you can use the live CD for an initial impression without installing, and you can use it to install.
[20:34] <stu> chn_boy: er apache obviously
[20:34] <shazzam> wat is the point of the live cd?
[20:34] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: I gave up on them when their focus went from stability to performance.
[20:34] <shazzam> its only temporary?
[20:34] <chn_boy> where can i get the apache??
[20:34] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i liked gentoo for learning purposes - i like ubunto for it's "just let me use it - i don;t have time to be under the hood right now"
[20:34] <Mattitude> well, it appears everyone's too busy, so I'll probably try again later - thanks anyway
[20:34] <cgentry72> Starnestommy: plus anytime it trys to load admin screen it fails. it takes like 3 times for it to finally load
[20:35] <_ale_> chn_boy: apt-get install apache2
[20:35] <chn_boy> can i get it from package manager??
[20:35] <chn_boy> ok
[20:35] <robg_> shazzam: sure just download an .iso image and start it up from your CD-ROM drive and check it out. If you decide to install then you must first make space for Linux by reducing the Windows partition size.
[20:35] <Starnestommy> cgentry72: go into recovery mode, then type this: echo "<IP_ADDRESS> `hostname`" >> /etc/hosts
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam a test drive for functionalilty without needing to install, but has the option to install
[20:35] <cgentry72> Starnestommy: ok thanks
[20:35] <dopievoli_> shazzam: it will be all in ram
[20:35] <Toznoshio> Q: How can I convert .wma files into mp3 in Ubuntu Hardy Heron?
[20:35] <soundray> shazzam: it lets you try out Ubuntu without making any changes to your system.
[20:35] <chn_boy> does apache 2 also include mysql??
[20:35] <CShadowRun> Hello? can anyone tell me how to install gedit plugins?
[20:35] <shazzam> so nothing i do can be saved because its a test run basicaly?
[20:35] <stu> chn_boy: yes via modules
[20:35] <cgentry72> Starnestommy: i assume 'hostname' is my hostname?
[20:35] <Starnestommy> chn_boy: no, but you can install the mysql package separately
[20:36] <ThreeFinity> Anybody know if having alsa kernel enabled and having normal alsa installed will cause a conflict?
[20:36] <_ale_> chn_boy: you have to install mysql-server
[20:36] <Starnestommy> cgentry72: it is
[20:36] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam there are ways to save changes to a usb drive in what is called persistent mode
[20:36] <soundray> shazzam: yes. Until such time as you decide to install it.
[20:36] <stu> and the mysql apache module
[20:36] <_ale_> and a couple of libraries for php apache mysql
[20:36] <CShadowRun> Hello...? Anyone going to answer me...i'm sure theres a bunch fo you in here that knows...
[20:36] <stu> whats the newest kernel number ?
[20:36] <shazzam> ok cool.. well i guess for now ill get the live cd... where do i get it?
[20:36] <stu> and is there a package for it ?
[20:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin | topgun17
[20:36] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?  La
[20:36] <ariqs> st call before I give up for a while
[20:36] <stu> !ebox
[20:36] <MrObvious> Toznoshio: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Convert_WMA_to_MP3
[20:37] <shazzam> how long will it take to learn to use?
[20:37] <soundray> !download | shazzam
[20:37] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: I'm here for another hour and would like to know if reinstalling gdm worked. Are you going to give it a shot?
[20:37] <unstable> Anyone have a guide, for building the 2.6.25 kernel on dapper drake?
[20:37] <soundray> shazzam: depends on your intelligence ;)
[20:37] <robg_> shazzam: you can download .iso images from //releases.ubuntu.com
[20:37] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: First of all, getting pushy isn't gonna get you help any faster..most likely will justget you shunned lol. Secodly click system > administration > Synaptic Package Manager, then search for gedit
[20:37] <shazzam> i c... wait about that persistent mode thingy.... wats that?
[20:38] <stu> seems being pushy does get things done
[20:38] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity actually, i come in here quite often, getting pushy is generally what gets the job done (See, it worked this time too.)
[20:38] <genii> robg_: direct iso download is discouraged, servers get hammered. Torrent is recommended
[20:38] <stu> someone help me with my godamn remote control now
[20:38] <Toznoshio> MrObvious: thanks, I'll look into that
[20:38] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity i'm trying to install an unofficial plugin, it's not in the repos.
[20:38] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i'm ssh'd home - so i'll hopefully know mostly by lack of errors when i reinstall =)
[20:38] <ThreeFinity> then extract and compile it ?
[20:38] <MrObvious> Toznoshio: You're welcome. I just did a Google for linux wma to mp3
[20:38] <chn_boy> after i install apache2, what should I configure first???
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam it lets you run livecd without touching your hard drive, but lets you save your changes and addl installed programs to a usb stick
[20:38] <Starnestommy> chn_boy: apache
[20:38] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity it doesn't appear to have a configure or a make.
[20:38] <stu> !lamp
[20:38] <MedO42> My X server just crashed for no apparent reason. Backtrace in the Xorg.0.log.old seems to indicate the problem was with the binary nvidia driver. Does that mean that I shouldn't file a bug since the driver is not maintained by the community anyway?
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> stu Watch the language
[20:39] <stu> chn_boy: read that ^^^
[20:39] <ThreeFinity> no documentation about it ?
[20:39] <minterior> I'm having problems with recent ubuntu-server upgrade (from 6.06 to 8.04). My system hangs on reboot after init-bottom init script. Anyone knows how to fix it?
[20:39] <chn_boy> ok
[20:39] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity nope
[20:39] <minterior> I've read that this is a bug, but I don't know how to fix it
[20:39] <stu> guys whats the new kernel version number ?
[20:39] <genii> minterior: Try hitting Enter key
[20:39] <Kamaze> how can i debootstrap a fresh Hardy out of debian etch?
[20:39] <kindofabuzz> yeah i'm back!
[20:39] <ariqs> boogers
[20:40] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins i'm trying to install Regex Search & Replace
[20:40] <minterior> genii now I am in busybox shell
[20:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ariqs Please dont do that
[20:40] <shazzam> wat the difference btween downloading it here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download or there by //reference...
[20:40] <Starnestommy> stu: 2.6.24-16
[20:40] <shezif> Hi everybody
[20:40] <stu> thnx
[20:40] <MrObvious> Hey shezif
[20:40] <shazzam> and which release do i get
[20:40] <kindofabuzz> i have -17
[20:40] <shazzam> ?
[20:40] <shezif> I have some question
[20:40] <shazzam> there are so many!
[20:40] <stu> Starnestommy: is there a package somewhere for it ?
[20:40] <MrObvious> !ask | shezif
[20:40] <sykopomp> what's the config file that contains the list of daemons that will run by default?
[20:40] <shezif> How I can to add software to ubuntu's sources ?
[20:40] <Starnestommy> stu: linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic
[20:41] <groove> --
[20:41] <ariqs> you can't ask to ask a question, but can you ask to ask to ask a question?
[20:41] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity, so...do you know how to install it?
[20:41] <stu> Starnestommy: thnx
[20:41] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, during the install process i see a lot of "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")."
[20:41] <stu> damn already running that
[20:41] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: reading atm
[20:41] <Jack_Sparrow> shezif What exactly are ou trying to do
[20:41] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity kk :)
[20:41] <Starnestommy> shezif: it's a set of directories in /etc including /etc/rcS.d, /etc/rc2.d, and /etc/init.d/
[20:41] <blackcoatman> byez
[20:41] <Starnestommy> er...
[20:41] <Ximal> does anyone here know a good version or prgram to use to convert vob files to divx files ?
[20:41] <MrObvious> ariqs: There are 1400 people in here and the channel is so busy that any attempts we can make to reduce the signal to noise ratio to something useful is helpful. lol
[20:41] <robg_> shazzam: I personally like ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso installed in LVM Encrypted mode.
[20:41] <Starnestommy> sykopomp: it's a set of directories in /etc including /etc/rcS.d, /etc/rc2.d, and /etc/init.d/
[20:42] <reenignEesreveR> am i the only being who gets a "apache2: could not reliably determine server's fully qualified domain name ..." error message on ubuntu box when starting apache?
[20:42] <soundray> shazzam: it doesn't make a difference, as long as you get 8.04 codenamed Hardy Heron
[20:42] <sykopomp> Starnestommy: why so many? -.-
[20:42]  * sykopomp mutters more debian-hate
[20:42] <MrObvious> shezif: What kind of software are you wanting to add to Ubuntu?
[20:42] <genii> Kamaze: The instructions here are very good, just ignore the crypto parts unless you want them and substitute Hardy for Feisty in the commands given. Also may want to manually do partitioning instead of the auto scheme he uses there. http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[20:42] <ajopaul> hi, upgraded to hardy when i connect to my nokia 6630 in nautilus , nothing shows up
[20:42] <soundray> shazzam: and don't take robg_ too seriously, he's talking about seriously advanced stuff
[20:42] <Starnestommy> sykopomp: blame the design of upstart and the SysV init system
[20:42] <dopievoli_> how to I tor in ubuntu
[20:42] <sykopomp> Starnestommy: I do, actually.
[20:42] <Starnestommy> dopievoli_: sudo apt-get install tor
[20:42] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: I don't pretend to understand perl (nor it me)
[20:42] <lukifer_etyrnal> =)
[20:42] <stu> Starnestommy: there's a 2.6.25
[20:42] <sykopomp> Starnestommy: Now, how do you add/remove default demons?
[20:43] <Kamaze> thanks genii, i'll take a look :)
[20:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[20:43] <robg_> Shazzam: disk encryption will protect you against viruses and hack attacks.
[20:43] <Andycas> Is there a deb package for flash player 10?
[20:43] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i'll probably try the same with perl
[20:43] <shazzam> @soundray i c... so i shud get that one? what version comes from the ubuntu .com? there is a live cd link there also
[20:43] <shezif> MrObvious, This software that can show video from many web sites
[20:43] <maxxism> anyone have an idea, why a samsung940bf monitor wont go into 1280x1024 in hardy?  I can get 1280x800, but it wont do anything else?  I used to have it hooked to a 1080p tv, so I think it is trying to still do widescreen.  I am very comfortable in xorg.conf
[20:43] <kindofabuzz> Andycas: it's just an .so, the download comes with a script
[20:43] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, not to worried about perl - Blender uses Python
[20:43] <MrObvious> shezif: What is it called?
[20:43] <shezif> MrObvious, Mazrim
[20:43] <Andycas> kindofabuzz: could you give me the link please?
[20:43] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: I don't think you need to touch perl, it's just a locale problem
[20:43] <kindofabuzz> Andycas: google adobe flash
[20:44] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, ok
[20:44] <shazzam> so i download the desktop cd?
[20:44] <Starnestommy> sykopomp: use the update-rc.d program.  When making a new script for a daemon, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/<new-daemon-name> then use update-rc.d to add it to the startup list
[20:44] <soundray> shazzam: the Desktop CD is the live CD that also contains an installer
[20:44] <MrObvious> shezif: Hmm. I've never heard of it. What kind of files are you trying to play?
[20:44] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: http://elias.hiex.at/gedit-plugins/ try that
[20:44] <shazzam> thanks
[20:44] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, here's the final lines of the install of gdm (after purge finished and i installed): " * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...                                                                                * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[20:44] <lukifer_etyrnal> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[20:44] <lukifer_etyrnal> "
[20:44] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: you're not going to know until you get there if it worked though?
[20:44] <MrObvious> !pastebin | lukifer_etyrnal
[20:44] <chn_boy> In which folder my apache is installed????
[20:44] <sykopomp> Starnestommy: and to remove it? remove it from init.d/, then update-rc.d?
[20:44] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity that folder doesn't exist.
[20:44] <xStandarshy> hey room
[20:44] <lukifer_etyrnal> MrObvious, sorry
[20:44] <shazzam> how do i get it as a torrent?
[20:44] <erUSUL> !torrent
[20:45] <sykopomp> but what if I want to keep the daemon in init.d so I can manually start it when I feel like it?
[20:45] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: extract your regex plugin and copy the contents from the folder into /ome/username/.gnome2/gedit/plugins
[20:45] <shezif> MrObvious, Mazrim can show media items from web sites that not suppot linux..
[20:45] <administrator> hi
[20:45] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: create it ?
[20:45] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14167/
[20:45] <No1CaNTeL> hey guys, seems I am having a rocky few days with ubuntu, sorry to keep bugging ya. I'm currently stuck trying to move a partition to the right, I keep getting an error input/output error during read on /dev/sda
[20:45] <xStandarshy> Could someone tellm eif there is any easy way to switch from the xfce system to gnome or kde?  I am running xubuntu
[20:45] <dopievoli_> so many people.....
[20:45] <administrator> hi
[20:45] <No1CaNTeL> tia :D
[20:45] <Starnestommy> sykopomp: no, sudo update-rc.d -f daemon-name remove, then optionally remove the /etc/init.d/ file, although the one with update-rc.d will just disable it
[20:45] <robg_> Shazzam: do you currently have a linux system to use for download ?
[20:45] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity now that folder definatly doesn't exist... /ome/ wtf?
[20:45] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i guess i won;t know until i get there
[20:45] <danbhfive> shazzam: if you are new to this, don't worry about getting the torrent too much.  It just helps the ubuntu.com servers and mirrors, but for now, go for the easiest
[20:45] <ThreeFinity> home* lol
[20:45] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, sorry
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> CShadowRun Please do not use wtf in here, we try to keep it family friendly
[20:46] <minterior> I'm having problems with recent ubuntu-server upgrade (from 6.06 to 8.04). My system hangs on reboot after init-bottom init script. Anyone knows how to fix it?
[20:46] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity gedit folder doesn't exist
[20:46] <ThreeFinity> I know
[20:46] <No1CaNTeL> I'm pretty sure that my problem is bad sector(s) but I am unsure of how to deal with them in Ubuntu
[20:46] <shazzam> alrite... cause i was about to go to mininova.org... and get it there...
[20:46] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity i tried creating it and sticking the files in there, it didn't work.
[20:46] <stu> !2.6.25
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[20:46] <stu> !kernel
[20:46] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i think i'm going to bounce the machine and see if i get it back - it take AGES to reboot though...  there are SO many scsi controllers in it...  i need to disable the ones i do not use =)
[20:46] <Xsploit> how do i check how muce disk space i have left?
[20:47] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun: Go to Places > Search for Files.. and look for gedit or gedit-2
[20:47] <lukifer_etyrnal> Xsploit, df
[20:47] <Xsploit> and is there an easy way to increase my partition size if i used wubi ?
[20:47] <Xsploit> df -h ?
[20:47] <robg_> Shazzam: I got my first Ubuntu from a magazine in a bookstore and used that to upgrade to my current system
[20:47] <ThreeFinity> CShadowRun:  then check whatever directories it finds for a plugins directory
[20:47] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: that's true. If you get there and see a console display, try running gdm from it
[20:47] <Xsploit> yup im gonna have to remember that :)
[20:47] <soundray> shazzam: I'm logging off now. Good luck
[20:48] <Oggu> How can i make my mic work with my C-Media CMI9880?
[20:48] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, i guess i could check for it in top ?
[20:48] <shezif> MrObvious, It's can to play any media file that there in the web site...
[20:48] <oddar> is gParted on the ubuntu liveCD?
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> oddar yes
[20:48] <robg_> oddar: Gparted is NOT on the ubuntu distributions
[20:48] <No1CaNTeL> ty, looking it over now
[20:49] <CShadowRun> ThreeFinity there are 2 folders that have plugins dirs, one is /usr/lib/gedit-2 the other is /usr/share/gedit-2 which one?
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> robg_ since when
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[20:49] <danbhfive> robg_: I think its on the live cd
[20:49] <Myrtti> robg_: it is part of the distribution, but not on the livecd
[20:49] <yukonho> Hi - how do I set up a ~/.login file?
[20:49] <talntid> gparted livecd = awesome
[20:49] <Myrtti> robg_: difference exists
[20:49] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: you should be able to restart x and gdm without a full reboot
[20:49] <lukifer_etyrnal> too late =)
[20:49] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, too late
[20:49] <gwern> I has an installation problem which is making me sad. does anyone know what sort of error '(initramfs) [74.531898] ata7.00: revalidation failed (errno=-2)' indicates?
[20:50] <shezif> MrObvious, Lets talk private
[20:50] <shazzam> thanks u guys!
[20:50] <oddar> can I use partitioning tools from ubuntu live CD to repartition a drive?
[20:50] <lukifer_etyrnal> jimcooncat, but thanks for the info - i know my way around linux - just not a guru =)
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> oddar yes
[20:50] <robg_> Gparted: you need a liveCD besides and Install CD.
[20:50] <jimcooncat> lukifer_etyrnal: lol. I'm going downstairs a while, so , later
[20:50] <shazzam> ill be here when i get the live cd up and running... though i cant use mirc on ubuntu im guessing....
[20:50] <No1CaNTeL> Jack_Sparrow:
[20:50] <genii> gwern: Is this booting the livecd or the hard drive?
[20:50] <shazzam> is there an irc client on ubuntu
[20:50] <shazzam> ?
[20:50] <gwern> genii: livecd
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> oddar the gparted livecd is awesome
[20:51] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL YEs, may I help you
[20:51] <DJones> shazzam: Use xchat for irc on ubuntu
[20:51] <robg_> oddar: you can install Ubuntu withou a Gparted LiveCD, but it is better to have one.
[20:51] <No1CaNTeL> Jack_Sparrow: would you mind giving me some suggestions on usage with fsck? I am still quite new to ubuntu and I really dont want to play around with my filesystems without really knowing what I am doing :P
[20:51] <genii> gwern: It is basically saying that the ramdisk it is trying to load the casper image from (the livecd kernel) is bad
[20:51] <shazzam> is it good? like does it have all the functions of mirc or no?
[20:51] <No1CaNTeL> flag wise that is^
[20:51] <gwern> genii: it's a .04 livecd, which I had mailed to me. would they be broken?
[20:51] <Starnestommy> shazzam: it has most of them.  If you want to run mIRC, you could run it with wine
[20:51] <gwern> it doesn't *look* scratched or anything
[20:52] <shazzam> ive heard of that.. it lest u ruin windows apps rite?
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL I am about to call it a day, I would rather not drop you in the middle of a problem
[20:52] <Starnestommy> shazzam: yes
[20:52] <oddar> robg_ my ubuntu is already installed, I want to repartition so that i can install a second distro
[20:52] <shazzam> im getting ahead of myslef.... let me install it first
[20:52] <DJones> shazzam: its pretty good, fairly similar to mirc, its also available for windows as well
[20:52] <No1CaNTeL> all good :D
[20:52] <genii> gwern: Although it may be that the initramfs image in this case does not contain the proper driver to understand your hard drive controller and so fails
[20:52] <gwern> genii: if the image is bad, what sort of output could I expect from the test-cd option? iirc, it gives the same console output as trying to install or run ubuntu
[20:52] <shazzam> thaks a lot u guys are good..
[20:52] <robg_> oddar: same as Windows dual-boot. Reduce the size of Linux1 to make place for Linux2.
[20:53] <cgentry72> how can i get rid of tooltips in gnome
[20:53] <shazzam> stupid question: is ubuntu faster than windows or it varies depending on comp
[20:53] <genii> gwern: Is this a sata drive you are trying to install to?
[20:53] <_ale_> bye people!
[20:53] <zonem> is there a way to launch gnome-system-tools from the command line? and with sudo?
[20:53] <gwern> genii: yes, and an ide dvd drive
[20:53] <oddar> robg_, yeah but with wich tools do i reparition? and how?
[20:54] <Scarface> It acturally depend on how much Physical memory (ram) your have installed in the machine.
[20:54] <robg_> shazzam: I did not pick Ubuntu for speed but for safety and ease.
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam lots of variables there. if you have 512 meg of ram or more, it will probably be faster
[20:54] <No1CaNTeL> anyone else able to help me tackle finding/fixing a bad sector?? :D I am running into errors while trying to move one of my partitions to the right. it seems to be a sector issue but I am unsure of how to deal with this kind of problem in Ubuntu :( TIA
[20:54] <zonem> or of i sudo xfce4-panel why can i not access system->users and groups with elevated privileges?
[20:54] <ernijs> is there programm like deamon tools
[20:54] <gwern> I was looking in ubuntu fora, and oddly, it seems people have no trouble installing with my gigabyte pa35-dslr motherboard, but someone mentioned that they had heard about problems mixing ide and sata stuff
[20:54] <genii> gwern: OK. I *suspect* it is due to not knowing what driver to use then fo the hd/dvd controller. Do you have some external usb cd/dvd drive to boot from instead?
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL You are not trying to move a mounted partition are you
[20:54] <robg_> oddar: the tool is a Gparted LiveCD. The operations are either delete partition or reduce partition.
[20:54] <No1CaNTeL> no, I am on the live cd
[20:54] <No1CaNTeL> http://pastebin.ca/1027338
[20:55] <afaith> hello poeple. does eany of you have a clue what's the equivalent of monotype corsiva in linux?
[20:55] <No1CaNTeL> that is my error, it seems to be the same every time.
[20:55] <afaith> i urgently need this font
[20:55] <Scarface> http://pastebin.ca/1027338
[20:55] <shazzam> if im gonna ask that question i mite as well ask more.... wats better mac or ubuntu?
[20:55] <ihcus> hi ppl....can anybody help me ...how to compile a c++ program in ubuntu
[20:55] <oddar> robg_ crap, was hoping not to need gparted
[20:55] <ajopaul> am unable to browse my nokia phone via bluetooth on nautilus using obex-data-server
[20:55] <No1CaNTeL> I can take space away from sda3 and append unallocated space on the right, but I cannot move my filesystem to the right
[20:55] <gwern> genii: external? I don't think so; what I was trying was to swapping the old cd-rw drive for another computer's dvd drive (doesn't seem to've worked)
[20:55] <zonem> ihcus google gcc tutorial
[20:55] <martin78> My toolbars were missing on startup... have anyone else seen this?
[20:55] <No1CaNTeL> and I need to use the unallocated space on another filesystem, sda2
[20:55] <ihcus> thank you zonem:
[20:56] <zonem> martin78 what desktop?
[20:56] <ajopaul> how do i make obex-data-server use channel 12 instead of channel 10 while connecting to my bluetooth mobile phone ?
[20:56] <robg_> oddar: You can use Windows paritition tools to reduce Windows partitions but you will need Linux tools to reduce Linux partitions.
[20:56] <xst> Why isn't firefox 3 rc1 in hardy yet?
[20:56] <martin78> gnome
[20:56] <ihcus> one more thing...i messed up my gnome power manager ...there are no restart and shutdown buttons now ?
[20:56] <No1CaNTeL> It seems to be bad sector(s) but again, I am unsure of how to scan and/or repair them if it is and alot of the available info is not dumbed down enough for an uber like myself
[20:56] <zonem> sorry ihcus, idk about that :(
[20:56] <No1CaNTeL> :P
[20:56] <afaith> no one knows?
[20:57] <zonem> martin78 try relaunching gnome-panel
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL You are on live cd correct?
[20:57] <anvo> Is it possible for each one of two wireless NIC's to connect to different networks...?
[20:57] <ajopaul> ihcus, Add to Panel ?
[20:57] <DJones> !ff3rc | xst
[20:57] <ihcus> ajopaul : i couldnt get you
[20:57] <martin78> zonem: how would I do that?
[20:57] <pwolfe> I have a script I need to load at boot time.  it creates an ethernet bridge.  I have added the script to /etc/rc.local, but something appears to be running after it that messes it up.  How can I insure that my script is the final script run before x loads?
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL You are using the livecd's partition program  GParted 0.3.5
[20:57] <ihcus> ajopaul: i couldt restart or shutdown from the panel
[20:57] <xst> When will they return from the summit?
[20:57] <genii> gwern: If it's having issues with the controller of the cd or dvd it won't matter what drive you use, will still have same error. The installer knows automatically about external usb drives, that is why I am asking. I needed to insytall this way before on an Asus motherboard because it did not know the SATA/PATA controller
[20:57] <No1CaNTeL> yes
[20:57] <zonem> martin78 try alt+f2 (or maybe ctrl+f2) for a run prompt then type gnome-panel
[20:58] <zonem> i think its f2
[20:58] <ajopaul> ihcus, u mean the button is missing or the function is unavailable ?
[20:58] <alan_m> xst, shouldnt be too long from now I dont think.
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL Verify that you have umounted the partition(s) you want to work with
[20:58] <ihcus> ajopaul: the buttons are missing after i messed up removing somethin!
[20:58] <zonem> anyone know how to launch gnome-system-tools from command line or from xfce4 with root privs?
[20:58] <gwern> genii: would the 'controller' be in lspci? I see '00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)' in lspci output
[20:58] <genii> gwern: Another approach would be to use the Alternate CD to install from, it works with more hardware and has a text based installer.
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> robg_ No1CaNTeL Is running live cd atm and confirmed gparted is included  GParted 0.3.5
[20:59] <genii> gwern: Yes, that would likely be the culprit
[20:59] <pwolfe> I have a script I need to load at boot time.  it creates an ethernet bridge.  I have added the script to /etc/rc.local, but something appears to be running after it that messes it up.  How can I insure that my script is the final script run before x loads?
[20:59] <gwern> genii: my little packet came with only the one cd - 'ubuntu 8.04 lts desktop edition (64-bit)'
[20:59] <No1CaNTeL> nothing is mounted, and again I can resize but I cannot move
[21:00] <orudie> orudie
[21:00] <No1CaNTeL> been trying all night :(
[21:00] <robg_> Jack-Sparrow: may well be, but it is easier to work with two CDs.
[21:00] <alan_m> !alternate | gwern
[21:00] <martin78> zonem: I tried that (read some stuff from google before I got here) Nothing happens when I press the buttons. Mouseclick brings up the usual menu "create folder" etc...
[21:00] <ajopaul> ihcus, right click on your panel, select Add to Panel, the applet of log off is down there
[21:00] <maxxism> anyone have an idea, why a samsung monitor wont go into 1280x1024 in hardy?  I can get 1280x800, but it wont do 1280x1024.  I used to have this computer hooked to a 1080p tv, so I think it is trying to still do widescreen.  even after hardy upgrade from gutsy it still wont go...   xorg.conf looks correct,  I listed 1280x1024 in there but still nothing.
[21:00] <gwern> genii: being text mode, does that mean no gparted?
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> robg_ just pointing out that it was on there...  like I said earlier
[21:01] <katatsumuri> Hello all. I'm reading a guide on how to add japanese input to ubuntu and it asks me to install basic Japanese support from System -> Administration -> Language Support. However, I can only see "English" in the list. Does anyone know how I can add it?
[21:01] <robg_> Jack-Sparrow: OK no problem, I have 50 CDs.
[21:01] <No1CaNTeL> I've actually tried from both the 7.10 live cd and 8.04 live cd with the same error
[21:01] <sd_> katatsumuri: you're using kde or gnome?
[21:02] <zonem> martin78, did you try killall gnome-panel?
[21:02] <No1CaNTeL> I have a bootable partition magic but I dont really want to get into an outside app, if it will even make a diff, unless needs be
[21:02] <katatsumuri> sd_: Gnome :-)
[21:02] <ihcus> ajopaul: i have added the new one but still the buttons on it a re missing @
[21:02] <No1CaNTeL> I need to learn what I am doing here :P
[21:02] <robg_> No1Cantel: the way I am telling it is foolproof.
[21:02] <smev81> Hello, does anyone know a ressource (i googled with no results) on ubuntu studio not installing, where it complains about having found the wrong kernel version and can not supply modules, asking if i would want to continue anyway, but doesnt let you?
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL I do like partition magic...  but it should not be necessary, I cant help but think it is something simple you are doing wrong in the installer
[21:03] <martin78> zonem: No I cant get a prompt... I just see the desktop...
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> partitioner
[21:03] <flotishtu> how to auto run a command on system boot when kde starts ?
[21:03] <ron> hey does any one know how i can delete a specific file from a few different folds at once?
[21:03] <zonem> martin78 did you try pressing alt+f2 and typing bash?
[21:03] <flotishtu> how to auto run a command on system boot after kde starts ?
[21:03] <sd_> katatsumuri: install packages language-pack-gnome-ja and language-pack-ja
[21:03] <Odd-rationale> !autostart
[21:04] <katatsumuri> sd_: thank you!
[21:04] <sd_> katatsumuri: then there should be japanaese, for kanji/kana input you need an input server, there are several dunno which one you want to use
[21:04] <n3uromanc3r> has anybody installed hardy using netboot over the LAN.. there are little to no details about this method online
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> flotishtu after kde starts, but before login?
[21:04] <sd_> katatsumuri: *should see japanese in there
[21:04] <alexxx_> Hello Boys
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> flotishtu: join #kubuntu the bot will tell you how there...
[21:04] <ajopaul> ihcus, you are able to see the button, what happens when you click it, also do try killall gnome-panel
[21:04] <No1CaNTeL> robg_: I think I might of missed your post, or maybe you were speaking to someone else? I seel a convo regarding partitioning but it was not directed to me :P
[21:04] <alan_m> !boot > alan_m
[21:04] <flotishtu> Jack_Sparrow after loging
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[21:04] <alexandru> i have a problem configuring apache+php. it doesn't work... no php files are executed, but the php code is shown
[21:04] <katatsumuri> sd_: oh, neither had any installation candidate, though :(
[21:05] <martin78> zonem: Nothing happens when I press alt+F2. Im stuck with the desktop... wait.. I'll try that from remote...
[21:05] <dandel> anyone else here having a lot of issues with the latest ATI driver that came out? ( like massive rendering problems when compiz is disabled. )
[21:05] <zonem> !lamp
[21:05] <ihcus> ajopaul: i am unable to see the buttons shutdown and reboot on the logoff panel
[21:05] <erUSUL> !lamp | alexandru
[21:05] <robg_> No1CanTel: My advise is to install Linux1. Then load Gparted LiveCD and reduce the Linux1 partition. Then Install Linux2.
[21:05] <ajopaul> ihcus, what are all the buttons visible then ?
[21:05] <dandel> oh and also issues with the compiz when using 1600x1200.
[21:06] <sd_> katatsumuri: hmm, then its already in there ... so all you need is an input server ... try to pick something from: apt-cache search "japanese input"
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dandel try /join #compiz
[21:06] <sd_> katatsumuri: im not exactly sure since i'm not using gnome :/
[21:06] <dandel> Jack_Sparrow, it's not a compiz issue, it's completely driver based.
[21:06] <zonem> why i try to run system -> users and groups every button is grey anyone know why or how to fix it?
[21:06] <ruben> I have a problem with udev. It fails to start, causing my hard drives to be unmounted. This is on ubuntu hardy
[21:07] <ru_> zonem, click admin mode
[21:07] <ihcus> ajopaul: the buttonsvisible are logout,suspend,hibernate,lock screen,switch user
[21:07] <zonem> ru_ where can i find admin mode button?
[21:07] <dandel> i went back to the april release of fglrx because of how many issues i spotted.
[21:07] <zonem> xfce
[21:07] <Jack_Sparrow> dandel np, I just know they are good with working on those drivers and issues
[21:07] <ru_> zonem, it's called "unlock" in that dialog
[21:07] <No1CaNTeL> robg_: you are losing me on this linux1 linux2 thing,  linux is installed, windows is also installed, I am trying to just resize one of my larger partitions and them move the partition over so I can then add the extra space to my windows partition
[21:07] <ruben> I tried starting it from syssettings-services, but fails starting the kernel event manager
[21:07] <ajopaul> ihcus, killall gnome-panel ?
[21:07] <zonem> ru_ unlock is grey
[21:07] <katatsumuri> sd_: ah I see. I remember having no problems with this in 7.04/7.10, it's first now in 8.04 it gives me problem
[21:07] <anirudh0> ihcus: this happens when gdm is not the display manager
[21:07] <dandel> it involves a lot of problems, Jack_Sparrow.
[21:07] <ru_> zonem, that's bad :|
[21:07] <No1CaNTeL> I will try the gparted live disc though, is there much difference between that and the one included on the live cd?
[21:08] <anirudh0> ihcus: are you sure you are using gdm...and not kdm or some other?
[21:08] <zonem> ru_ i know lol
[21:08] <I440r> ok, im having some problems with ubuntu. ive installed it on an external USB drive with grub installed on the EXTERNAL drive, NOT on my main boot device. when i tell the computer to boot to the external drive i get the grub menu
[21:08] <lars_bauer> how do i open a <name>.acu file ?
[21:08] <genii> gwern: Apologies for lag, work required me. The text installer will use parted and not gparted. But same back-end to both
[21:08] <I440r> but when i select a drive it tells me "cannot mount selected partition"
[21:08] <ihcus> ajopaul: yes i did that but nothing happened all the applets on the panel disappeared and appeared again thats it
[21:08] <sd_> katatsumuri: also, i'm using 7.10 .. 8.x was far too much experimental, not just in matters of language inputs :)
[21:08] <ajopaul> ihcus, beats me
[21:08] <dandel> i've already got it figured out for the most part... 1600x1200 is a broken resolution with gnome and the latest fglrx driver.
[21:08] <robg_> No1CanTel: Gparted LiveCD can safely perform two operations: delete a partition and reduce a partition in size. Advise against any other operations.
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL Different, but clean and easy to work with.. If you have partition magic, I would just use it
[21:08] <zonem> ru_ running sudo xfce-panel doesn't help, any ideas as to what I can do to run in admin mode?
[21:08] <ihcus> anirudh0: hi man...u look india..i dont know what i am using
[21:09] <anirudh0> I440r: go to the normal ubuntu install and post the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:09] <No1CaNTeL> I do, it's a bit older but should be able to do the trick
[21:09] <I440r> anirudh0, i cant
[21:09] <ihcus> anirudh: can u tell me how do we check if i am running it or not ?
[21:09] <genii> gwern: Alternate CD also has advantage that you can switch to Console4 with ctrl-alt-f4 to see what errors are being generated which is helpful
[21:09] <I440r> but its root is (hd1,1)
[21:09] <anirudh0> I440r: ?
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL #7 or#8
[21:09] <zonem> ru_ any other IRC channels might be able to help you can recommend?
[21:09] <I440r> im in windows.
[21:09] <I440r> i cannot get online on this machine from linux
[21:09] <anirudh0> ihcus: in terminal type ps -A|grep gdm
[21:09] <No1CaNTeL> has to be partition magic 7 or 8 eh?
[21:09] <ihcus> ajopaul : anyway thanks for your help man..
[21:09] <No1CaNTeL> kk
[21:09] <ru_> zonem, there's no "admin mode", i was talking about the unlock button. you could try "sudo users-admin", but when i do that, everything is greyed out for me
[21:10] <anirudh0> I440r: is your partition type reiserfs?
[21:10] <I440r> no
[21:10] <No1CaNTeL> now if I still run into this bad sector issue, do you have any other suggestions (other then drive replacement?? :P )
[21:10] <I440r> ext3
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL The cutoff for ext3 is in there somewhere
[21:10] <ajopaul> ihcus, let me check ..
[21:10] <anirudh0> I440r: there are ext3 drivers for windows
[21:10] <I440r> there are?
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL Partition around the error, or try hirens cd...  google to find that
[21:10] <I440r> !
[21:10] <I440r> brb lol
[21:10] <katatsumuri> sd_: hehe, i guess so. was just too lazy to mess around with webcam/sound drivers and such again ;)
[21:11] <I440r> omg wt*$^(* lol
[21:11] <ihcus> 5562 ?        00:00:00 gdm
[21:11] <ihcus>  5565 ?        00:00:00 gdm
[21:11] <ihcus> this is what i get!
[21:11] <No1CaNTeL> will do, just wish there was a way to mount the nix partitions in my windows install so I can just do a chkdsk /f/r
[21:11] <No1CaNTeL> :P
[21:11] <martin78> zonem: It says "gnome-panel: no process killed" It's Not running from the beginning?
[21:11] <zonem> ru_ i know, still unlock button is grey...not sure how to graphically edit user information otherwise.
[21:11] <ajopaul> ihcus, in any case u can shutdown using sudo poweroff :)
[21:11] <anirudh0> ihcus: hmm...then gdm is running.
[21:11] <zonem> martin78 that is likely
[21:12] <anirudh0> ajopaul: that way...you can do everything from the terminal :)
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL not sure that would be a good idea even if it worked
[21:12] <zonem> try starting gnome-panel &
[21:12] <No1CaNTeL> :P yeah, fgured as much, but it would still be nice :P
[21:12] <martin78> zonem: Ok, you know how to start it?
[21:12] <leo_> hi
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL ext2fs to read ext3 in windows
[21:12] <ihcus> ajopaul: i am using shutdown now and it  isn't shutting down and all it does is logs out and logs in again ...
[21:12] <robg_> No1CanTeL: strongly advise against easy fixes and shortcuts.
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL Wife is here with lunch, good luck...
[21:13] <gwern> genii: ok, that's good to hear. I'm wgetting the alternate 8.04 x86_64 installer now
[21:13] <anirudh0> ihcus: sudo /sbin/poweroff
[21:13] <zonem> martin78, in your bash window type "gnome-panel &"
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> No1CaNTeL I can agree with robg_ on that point
[21:13] <gwern> then hopefully I will be able to burn it or something
[21:13] <alexandru> i've tried ubottu suggestion. i still cannot correctly execute php files
[21:13] <smev81> I want to install ubuntustudio. It says kernel version does not match kernel modules on mirrors and that was it.
[21:13] <No1CaNTeL> ty :P and no I will not do the chkdsk on them, that was more a joke then anything. but I did want to know how to mount them so I can move files back and forth, should that be ok to do?
[21:13] <ihcus> anirudh: this thing may power off the system...now and i dont want to do it now...
[21:13] <I440r> ok i installed the ext2 driver in windows but during the install i get one of those STUPID "the system cannot find the specified file" which fails to specify which specified file it was unable to locate
[21:13] <I440r> ugh
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 What version of ubuntu are you running
[21:13] <smev81> i try to install 8.04
[21:13] <genii> gwern: If it still doesn't install, then at least the error output may tell us why. Also on Consoles 2 and 3 you can obtain a command prompt from which to insert modules or so forth if needed
[21:14] <n3uromanc3r> !ati
[21:14] <ihcus> anirudh: any point in putting it in the applet ...
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 Also note, they have a channel of their own too.
[21:14] <n3uromanc3r> !netboot
[21:14] <r00723r0> Does Ubuntu have DNSPython?
[21:14] <anirudh0> No..: there is an ext3 driver for win....and _maybe__ a reiserfs one...but why do you want to do that anyway?
[21:14] <smev81> no response there. it might be a problem related to minimal install, since it bases on it
[21:14] <MrKeuner> hi, what does apt-ceche do every once in a while, causing a lot of system load?
[21:14] <No1CaNTeL> anirudh0: you talking to me?
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 What version of ubuntu are you running, you are trying to install 8.04, but what are you currently running for a distro or release
[21:14] <anirudh0> yes
[21:14] <martin78> zonem: It says its not installed .... weird...   Installing...
[21:15] <ajopaul> r00723r0, yes python-dnspython
[21:15] <r00723r0> ajopaul, what's preferred - python-dnspython, python-dns, or python-adns?
[21:15] <anirudh0> No..,: your name is too long to type...and there is no tab completion in irc :(
[21:15] <zonem> martin78, erueka!
[21:15] <smev81> currently mandriva
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !tab
[21:15] <No1CaNTeL> well, I go back and forth between the two, and when I am writing a program I am consistently swapping back and forth to test compatibility, it is easier to access the same folder from whichever I am running at the time
[21:15] <I440r> ok i have access to the grub.conf what do you wnat me to do ?
[21:15] <No1CaNTeL> I normally use a v-box install for windows
[21:15] <No1CaNTeL> but I miss my games :P
[21:16] <anirudh0> ihcus: did'nt get you...what do you mean by putting in applet?
[21:16] <ajopaul> r00723r0, each package are for its diff purposes
[21:16] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow: thnx
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 You cant do studio on ubuntu from mandriva..   /join #mandriva
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[21:16] <gwern> anirudh0: tab completion is handled by the irc client. if your irc client doesn't do tab completion, get a decent one (which will)
[21:16] <martin78> zonem: ....But I saw the toolbars just an hour ago.... Now on restart they where gone...
[21:16] <r00723r0> ajopaul, which one is used most often, and which one is able to check whether or not a domain is registered?
[21:16] <No1CaNTeL> anirudh0: was just checking, although I think it is your client that does not have the tab function, mine works ok :P
[21:16] <smev81> i will overvrite the partition with mandriva anyways
[21:16] <zonem> martin78 did you install ubuntu-desktop meta package
[21:16] <zonem> ?
[21:17] <No1CaNTeL> using pigdin off of the live cd
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> martin78 I need to run. but try    compiz --replace
[21:17] <anirudh0> gwern: using pidgin...just did'nt know it worked
[21:17] <ajopaul> r00723r0, python-dnspython try this if its useful
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 You are in the wrong channel for the help you need
[21:17] <ihcus> anirudh: i want to use it as a button in the logoff panel ....i want to use reboot and shutdown as buttons in the panel
[21:17] <leo_> hi
[21:17] <I440r> anirudh0, where do you want me to post menu.lst to?
[21:17] <No1CaNTeL> k, time to find my partition magic
[21:18] <anirudh0> I440r: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[21:18] <martin78> zonem: Naaa... I removed evolution and some syuff that evolution used + installed vlc
[21:18] <leo_> jack?
[21:18] <anirudh0> ihcus: did you update gdm during the current user session?
[21:18] <smev81> you think the ubuntu-studio channel is my last hope?
[21:18] <ihcus> anirudh: how do we update gdm?
[21:18] <I440r> anirudh0,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14172/
[21:19] <leo_> what is the last version of ubuntu ?
[21:19] <zonem> !synaptic
[21:19] <ihcus> anirudh: i removed somethin from the add remove programs and after that it had gone ...
[21:19] <Starnestommy> leo_: 8.04
[21:19] <leo_> okay thank you
[21:19] <ihcus> anirudh: tum kaha rehte ho india mein ?
[21:20] <anirudh0> ihcus: what exactly did you remove.
[21:20] <leo_> could you give me a link?
[21:20] <anirudh0> ihcus: PM..main chat is not meant for this
[21:20] <anirudh0> I440r: hmm..your menu.lst points to hd1,1
[21:20] <ihcus> anirudh: i didnt know what i removed :( ...gud u r professional ...
[21:20] <I440r> correct
[21:20] <Starnestommy> leo_: wait, I think the previous version was 7.10.  The current one is 8.04
[21:20] <I440r> i do NOT want the ubuntu grub installed on hd0,0
[21:20] <anirudh0> ihcus: cant help you without that info
[21:21] <I440r> i want it installed on the EXTERNAL drive
[21:21] <TehMongoose> leo_: did you want a link to the download page?
[21:21] <zonem> ru_ trying ked-guidance...see if it works better. based on forum policykit is bugged...
[21:21] <I440r> im telling my machine to boot directly from the MBR of the external drive.
[21:21] <shelby> Can someone please tell me how to get the universal repos?
[21:21] <anirudh0> I440r: I meant ...was linux installed in the first partition in the external drive or the second one?
[21:21] <martin78> zonem: It works now! Thanks! If you are ever in Mariestad, Sweden I've got a few beers with your name on them :)
[21:21] <leo_> yes
[21:21] <joooj> how can you check your hardware from command line?
[21:21] <I440r> the grub on said external drive is "not able to mount the selected partition"
[21:21] <TehMongoose> leo_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[21:21] <ihcus> anirudh: how do i restore ubuntu .....like restore to newly installed
[21:21] <sd_> joooj: lspci
[21:21] <I440r> first partition is swap. second partition is ext3
[21:21] <I440r> sorry
[21:22] <Starnestommy> leo_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 for 7.10, or http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download for 8.04
[21:22] <anirudh0> ihcus: install it again from a livecd...you'll use your settings though
[21:22] <joooj> how can I see how much ram and processor speed from command line?
[21:23] <anirudh0> I440r: strange then....try booting from the recovery kernel
[21:23] <ihcus> anirudh: but what about my files? in the system
[21:23] <anirudh0> joooj: top
[21:23] <I440r> did that, same error
[21:23] <Barnabas> hi all
[21:23] <anirudh0> I440r: it is a verbose version of the same kernel...so if anything works at all, you should see some output
[21:24] <I440r> "unable to mount selected partition"
[21:24] <I440r> same error
[21:24] <asathoor> anyone here with an fujitsu siemens esprimo v5535? How can I configure the graphic driver?
[21:24] <joooj> top didn't show the memory amount in my computer - any other command?
[21:24] <anirudh0> I440r: no output at all before the "cannot mount...." ?
[21:24] <I440r> nope
[21:24] <anirudh0> joooj: top has a memort section
[21:24] <anirudh0> joooj: man top
[21:24] <joooj> o.k.
[21:24] <zonem> asathoor, which graphic chipset?
[21:24] <shadowvice1> Ubuntu/Apache Question ... Im trying a ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse ... for the life of me I cant get this working on Ubuntu 8.04... is there something Im missing?
[21:25] <zonem> !proxypass
[21:25] <Sonja> is there a good flowchart program (or web-based) where it prompts me with questions and then tells me what to do based on my answers?
[21:25] <zonem> heh just thought i would check
[21:25] <killaz> hi #ubuntu. How can I find out what filesystem I have on a disk or partition?
[21:25] <shadowvice1> thanks zonem :D
[21:25] <anirudh0> anyone...any ideas on why an ext3 partition may get refused to get mounted by the kernel?
[21:25] <killaz> which tool on command line can I use for this
[21:25] <blindmelon>  #ubuntu.it
[21:25] <anirudh0> I440r;s problem
[21:25] <blindmelon>  #ubuntu-it
[21:26] <sriramoman> clear
[21:26] <anirudh0> blindmelon: i think you are looking for /join #ubuntu-it
[21:26] <asathoor> zonem >> sis
[21:26] <ThreeFinity> Would everything work normally on a ubuntu 64bit distro if 32bit emulation was enabled in the kernel ?
[21:26] <MrKeuner> hi, what does apt-ceche do every once in a while, causing a lot of system load?
[21:27] <anirudh0> ThreeFinity: everything ...possibly except flash
[21:27] <robg_> anirudh0: the drive is formatted before the OS is writen on it.
[21:27] <asathoor> Graphics Controller SiS Mirage 3+ 256MB DDR2 SDRAM Shared ...
[21:27] <ThreeFinity> I'd like to get more juice outta my cpu, but I don't wanna be restricted to using like 3 programs that support 64bit lol
[21:27] <ru_> ThreeFinity, no, but there are workarounds
[21:27] <glennvd> does annyone know why my brand new XPS hangs when booting ubuntu (7.10) from disk ( hangs at loading boot script 9 out of 10 times) while it runs smoothly on my 5 year old pc?
[21:27] <anirudh0> robg_: agreed...but what about that?
[21:27] <ru_> ThreeFinity, check the 64bit forum at ubuntuforums.org
[21:27] <I440r> :/
[21:27] <whogotsomo>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[21:27] <marathe25> ThreeFinity: Java works on 64bit, I can confirm
[21:28] <ThreeFinity> glennvd: linux is all about having gfood support for older hardware, but as new stuff comes out the support has to be created by people who don't get paid or anything lol so it could take a while
[21:28] <robg_> anirudh0: if the formatting is correct and the install is correct then everything should work.
[21:28] <ThreeFinity> glennvd: either that or it's just setup wrong
[21:28] <zonem> asathoor http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-450176.html ?
[21:28] <asathoor> zonem >> thanx
[21:28] <ThreeFinity> cool marathe25
[21:28] <I440r> erm. i just learned in #gentoo that the powers that be have MODIFIED the definition of the ext3 file system
[21:28] <whogotsomo> does anyone know where the error log is for boot errors?
[21:28] <zonem> asathoor, GL
[21:28] <I440r> I440r: new ext3 filesystems have 256 byte inodes... .. .
[21:29] <I440r> could THAT be my problem?
[21:29] <glennvd> Meh anyway, hope this latest version (64 bit this time) does any better
[21:29] <ru_> ThreeFinity, in general, everything works under 64 bit
[21:29] <zonem> whogotsomo, /var/log
[21:29] <zonem> ?
[21:30] <gwern> genii: I'm going to reboot now to reattach my cd burner; hoepfully the alternate will work
[21:32] <DarkSideMoon> haloo
[21:32] <movedx> If you install something with 'apt-get source <app> --compile', does it download the source, compile it AND install the app, or just compile it in the local directory?
[21:32] <whogotsomo> does anyone know how to retrieve the boot error logs?
[21:33] <Starnestommy> whogotsomo: dmesg?
[21:33] <DarkSideMoon> jest tu ktos???
[21:33] <MrObvious> movedx: I'm not sure. :\
[21:33] <MrObvious> DarkSideMoon: Welcome.
[21:33] <zonem> tail /var/log/boot?
[21:33] <whogotsomo> ill try now one sec
[21:34] <DarkSideMoon> haloo :) nice too meet you
[21:34] <amrik> Hi, I am having trouble getting my sound to work in Ubuntu. Where can I start to troubleshoot?
[21:34] <zonem> !alsa
[21:34] <movedx> MrObvious: I think '--compile' compiles the source to a binary .deb file - so... what goes is that exactly? Heh! Does it compile it to a binary .deb, therefore optimizing the .deb to your system?
[21:34] <anirudh0> robg_: i meant...it dose'nt explain why the partition should refuse to get mounted.
[21:34] <anirudh0> if the problem was incomplete writing of the partition, then I440r would have seen something like "/bin/bash: no such file or directort"
[21:34] <anirudh0> *directory
[21:34] <amrik> err, its more under the lines of "hda-intel: no codec found". ubuntu sees the device on the pci bus but isn't getting the driver module loaded into the kernel
[21:34] <Chousuke> movedx: question: why are you compiling packages that are in apt?
[21:35] <robg_> amrik: you may want to download the medibuntu.org multimedia repository.
[21:35] <movedx> Chousuke: I never said I was, I merely asking the question; because I want to.
[21:35] <hexoroid>  whats ipp service ?
[21:35] <zonem> !policykit
[21:35] <zonem> grr
[21:35] <I440r> anirudh0, when i boot the external drives grub and select "boot the windows parition" entry i get "unsupported executable format"
[21:35] <Chousuke> movedx: Well, I would assume it builds a .deb
[21:35] <a514> Hi There, How do i install kubuntu cdrom in ubuntu without a internet connection?
[21:35] <amrik> robg_: OK I already have that enabled. Is there a particular package you had in mind?
[21:35] <movedx> Chousuke: That *IS* what it does - I just said that.
[21:36] <Fishscene> I just reformatted my external USB drive with ext3. I don't have write-access to it anymore and 7.5 GB is used. Any idea how to rectify this?
[21:36] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[21:36] <I440r> but booting ANY linux partition including my gentoo on hte internal drive gives me "unable to mount selected partition "
[21:36] <robg_> amrik: for sound Pulse Audio, for graphics delete Open
[21:36] <robg_> OpenJDK and install Sun Java
[21:36] <anirudh0> I440r: I am not sure what the problem is...but if even windows does'nt boot , then grub might be at fault
[21:36] <I440r> i currently do not have a grub installed on the internal drive because of an upgrade to grub in gentoo STOMPING on my stage files
[21:36] <amrik> robg_: If it helps I have Intel ICH7 and sigmatel STAC9227 codec. The issue seems to not be pulse but the hda-intel kernel module
[21:36] <shelby> My Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB black screens on startup with the drivers that Ubuntu comes with.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[21:36] <zonem> ru_ i have dbus now
[21:36] <a514> Hi There, How do i install Kubuntu cdrom with synpatic repositories offline?
[21:36] <amrik> robg_: this is evidenced by the fact that pulse works fine with my usb audio device
[21:37] <anirudh0> I440r: you could try restoring from a live cd
[21:37] <robg_> amirk: if you go the medibuntu.org they will give 2 two codecs: w32codecs and libdvdcss2
[21:37] <I440r> this is an older install cd that i just reinstalled to the external drive... when i first installed i did it on a different machine and ubuntu installed the grub to that machines internal drive.
[21:37] <Chousuke> Fishscene: I would assume you need to change the permissions on the drive.
[21:37] <anirudh0> I440r: did'nt get you...gentoo lives in another partition...right
[21:37] <dandel> shelby, it happens to even me... install the fglrx driver from the ubuntu repository and that should fix it... i had the same issue.
[21:37] <Chousuke> Fishscene: it might be owned by roo
[21:37] <ru_> zonem, does that help with the buttons?
[21:37] <Chousuke> Fishscene: root*
[21:37] <Fishscene> Chousuke, any idea how to do that?
[21:37] <I440r> i had to FIX that with a windows disk. reinstalled to external drive telling ubunto to put ITS boot sector on the external drive
[21:37] <Fishscene> I just can't figure out why 7.5 GB is used on a blank drive =\
[21:38] <amrik> robg_: I really don't think its a software codec problem. I think it is a hardware issue
[21:38] <whogotsomo> cd /var/log/boot/ says othign has been logged yet, but i turned on logging
[21:38] <whogotsomo> is there anyway else to see the error message?
[21:38] <zonem> ru_ no change after install of dbus...is there something else I should do?
[21:38] <I440r> gentoo lives on /dev/sda4
[21:38] <Chousuke> Fishscene: not with a GUI. It's possible, but i have no idea how to use the gui tools :P
[21:38] <dandel> shelby, just make sure that you don't get the 8.5 driver, since the card you have might not work well with it ( my Radeon X1900 does not like the 8.5 driver)
[21:38] <I440r> ubuntu lives on /dev/sdb2
[21:38] <Fishscene> lol
[21:38] <Chousuke> Fishscene: on the terminal, chown username:groupname /path/to/drive
[21:38] <zonem> whogotsomo sudo find / |grep boot.log
[21:38] <shelby> Thanks, dandel.  I tried to fglrx driver, if you mean the one from the synaptic package manager, and had the same results.  Any other ideas?
[21:39] <zonem> or if you are adventerious sudo find / |grep *.log
[21:39] <anirudh0> I440r: then install a grub on the internal drive first..from a live cd that is
[21:39] <zonem> err just .log
[21:39] <robg_> amrik: you can also consider players like VLC, Mplayer, Audacious, gxine
[21:39] <I440r> no
[21:39] <I440r> definately NOT
[21:39] <Chousuke> zonem: whogotsomo: sudo find / -name "*.log" is better
[21:39] <dandel> shelby, did you try this command by any chance? aticonfig --initial
[21:39] <I440r> this drive HAS to have its own boot sector and grub.conf
[21:39] <a514> Hi I have the offical 8.04 Kubuntu cdrom, how do i add it to Ubuntu with synaptic offline, without a connection and share a partition?
[21:39] <zonem> ahh -name...always forget about that
[21:39] <Fishscene> Chousuke: The command went through, but permissions did not change
[21:39] <Chousuke> Fishscene: hmm
[21:39] <I440r> it will be booted from different locations.
[21:39] <ru_> zonem, i'm sorry, i'm out of ideas for now. in your case i would search ubuntuforums.org for any hints.
[21:40] <zonem> ru_ ok thanks
[21:40] <Chousuke> Fishscene: can you run ls -ld /path/to/drive and tell me what it says?
[21:40] <anirudh0> I440r: i meant get something working first on you main hdd
[21:40] <amrik> robg_: dude, nevermind. I've confirmed its a hardware bug.
[21:40] <Killthrill> hello all
[21:40] <Fishscene> brw-rw---- 1 administrator disk 8, 17 2008-05-23 13:34 /dev/sdb1
[21:40] <anirudh0> amrik: if its a hardware issue then all sound must fail..right?
[21:41] <Chousuke> Fishscene: ah
[21:41] <I440r> anirudh0, it WAS working in that manner, its pointless getting it working thusly on THIS machine as this drive is never going to be USED here
[21:41] <shelby> dandel, I followed the instructions on the ATI wiki, so I did the sudo aticonfig --initial -f command.
[21:41] <Chousuke> Fishscene: that's wrong
[21:41] <I440r> im just doing the install here
[21:41] <amrik> anirudh0: no that's not necessarily true. It is just a particular module isn't loading into the kernel.
[21:41] <tichou> hi everyone
[21:41] <Chousuke> Fishscene: I meant the *mount point* of the disk, not the device file
[21:41] <sedra> hello
[21:41] <tichou> i need some help for installing Football manager 2008 with wine. am i on the right channel?
[21:41] <amrik> anirudh0: I have other sound cards as well, which is why I can still hear sound. It is just this particular one is not working.
[21:41] <anirudh0> amrik: i faced a problem like this during one of hardy-devel cycles
[21:41] <Chousuke> Fishscene: in which directory is the drive mounted? (run "mount" without parameters to find out)
[21:41] <Starnestommy> tichou: try #winehq
[21:42] <tichou> thx dude
[21:42] <Fishscene> just a sec..
[21:42] <Killthrill> can anyone suggest a good bittorrent client for ubuntu? the transmission version that comes with 8.04 is kinda old
[21:42] <anirudh0> amrik: turned out the kernel team had forgotten to compile some modules into the newer kernel
[21:42] <Fishscene> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[21:42] <dandel> killthrill, i recommend using deluge.
[21:42] <anirudh0> amrik: regressing to a older kernel solved it
[21:42] <Sonja> is there an easy programming language for Ubuntu that lets me display windows with questions, clicky buttons and display images?
[21:42] <Sonja> i guess i could just use html
[21:42] <Chousuke> Fishscene: okay, so you need to check the permissions on /media/disk/
[21:42] <Fishscene> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[21:42] <anirudh0> Sonja: python
[21:42] <sedra> sonja: python
[21:43] <Fishscene> sorry, "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-05-23 11:28 /media/disk"
[21:43] <Killthrill> is deluge in the standard repository?
[21:43] <amrik> anirudh0: hmm. I think I've tried to compile 2.6.25 from kernel.org and that didn't really seem to help, it just broke sound worse (although I might have been noobing it up)
[21:43] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open?
[21:43] <fxfitz> Can someone help me set up a samba server (or point me to a GOOD tutorial)?
[21:43] <zonem> !python > sonja
[21:43] <anirudh0> hey...could I440r's problem be a permissions issue?
[21:43] <shelby> dandel, I followed the instructions on the ATI wiki, so I did the sudo aticonfig --initial -f command.
[21:43] <Sonja> thanks i'll take it to #python
[21:43] <zonem> !samba
[21:43] <anirudh0> but do permissions come into play so soon into the boot process?
[21:43] <I440r> how can it be a permissions issue?
[21:43] <Chousuke> Fishscene: right. as you can see, it's owned by root
[21:43] <Rat409> soneil: zenity's a part of gnome
[21:43] <Fishscene> ...brb
[21:43] <jagggy> is it posible to do 'gnome-terminal -x ls' and let the terminal stay open?
[21:44] <tichou> nobody response on #winehq :(
[21:44] <zonem> jagggy, try it and find out
[21:44] <amrik> anirudh0: also the hda-intel module is *there*, it just isn't *working*. Note that before it would sometimes randomly work, maybe 1/100 of the time.
[21:44] <Chousuke> Fishscene: run "sudo chown youruser:youruser /media/disk/" to change it to your user.
[21:44] <jagggy> zonem ye, but it closes terminal, but how to let it stay open
[21:44] <anirudh0> it makes no sense for an ext3 drive not to be mounted...so i am trying out all unlikely theories :)
[21:44] <anirudh0> amrik: whats the kernel version
[21:44] <Fishscene> Chousuke, Fixed now. I changed the ownership
[21:44] <Fishscene> Thanks :)
[21:45] <zonem> jagggy what does -x switch to?
[21:45] <zonem> do?
[21:45] <jagggy> execute
[21:45] <Chousuke> I think ubuntu could use a simple tool for managing ownership on external drives.
[21:45] <amrik> anirudh0: uname -r => 2.6.24-17-generic
[21:45] <zonem> jagggy execute then return?
[21:45] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[21:45] <dandel> shelby, ok, so you did the ubuntu method right? well do the manual method now and download the 8.4 driver... http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/previous/linux-rf-cat84.html
[21:45] <jagggy> yes zonem
[21:45] <Sonja> also is python able to somehow lock down my Ubuntu to force me to go through this questions program before being able to open or tab to any other program? i want to design a "to do" list prompter that forces me to answer the questions and accompilsh tasks before i'm allowed to play on my computer
[21:45] <jagggy> but i  need it to stay open
[21:45] <Chousuke> it's very confusing for the average user, especially because the filesystem makes a big difference to how it works :/
[21:45] <Fishscene> Chousuke, Now for the hard part. :P How do I reclaim my "used" 7.6 GB of data?
[21:45] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: they do, it's called the command line
[21:45] <kllj> irc://irc.freenode.net/Chousuke,isnick
[21:45] <homeofpoe> I installed Mayanna via configuring/make install/etc... but I don't know how to remove it. It's not in the package manager. Do I just delete the folder?
[21:46] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: that's not a simple tool by far.
[21:46] <Fishscene> I have a "Lost+found" directory on the drive that appears everytime I reformat
[21:46] <anirudh0> I440r: as you said..the kernel module is there...but i had a similar problem with this kernel version ...i am now running <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:46] <dandel> shelby, although you will need to remove the fglrx packages you have installed right now to fix the issue though.
[21:46] <anirudh0> *<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:46] <Sonja> i have extreme ADHD and need a tool to tell me what to do, and stop me from doing other things. maybe it could simply disconnect me from the internet as a way to lock the computer.
[21:46] <Chousuke> Fishscene: it might be "reserved" by root
[21:46] <zonem> jagggy -x is for scripting, why not just run gnome-terminal by itself it should stay open
[21:46] <I440r> this error occurrs BEFORE the kernel is loaded
[21:46] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: yes it is, once you do it once, it's easy, i'm sure there are plenty of guides on how to do it
[21:46] <shelby> All right, dandel.  Thanks a lot.
[21:46] <ariqs> sonja: write the tool for yourself ;P
[21:46] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: that's the non-simple part right there.
[21:46] <jagggy> zonem, because it needs to execute a line ...
[21:46] <anirudh0> I440r: sorry...last post not to you
[21:46] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: "once you do it"
[21:46] <I440r> oh lol ok :)
[21:47] <anirudh0> amrik: as you said..the kernel module is there...but i had a similar problem with this kernel version ...i am now running <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:47] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: google is your buddie
[21:47] <anirudh0> *<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:47] <a514> Hi how do i add kubuntu cdrom packages into ubuntu offline with synaptic? Thanks
[21:47] <zonem> jagggy idk, sorry
[21:47] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: the cli is simple and easy and powerful if you're used to it, but it's not attractive to most users
[21:47] <jagggy> k, ty zonem
[21:47] <amrik> anirudh0: well I have 2.6.24-16 linux-image installed as well in parallel with -17, booting into it doesn't help.
[21:47] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open?
[21:48] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: command line is part of linux, if you don't wanna use it, they should stay with windows
[21:48] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: that's not the point.
[21:48] <insomnia> i want to burn an .avi to a cd.... im running ubuntu 8.04... what do i need to be able to burn a disc? the built in one, only lets me burn cd images if im not mistaken...?
[21:48] <amrik> anirudh0: I know I'm not being very helpful, but the only reason I went to hardy-proposed kernel was to see if it would fix my sound
[21:48] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: having to use the command line for something as simple as getting an external drive configured is asking too much
[21:48] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: there's not gonna be a gui for everything
[21:48] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: I know that.
[21:48] <zonem> brb
[21:48] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?
[21:48] <insomnia> i want to burn an .avi to a cd.... im running ubuntu 8.04... what do i need to be able to burn a disc? the built in one, only lets me burn cd images if im not mistaken...?
[21:48] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: but this is something that could use a GUI
[21:48] <kindofabuzz> Chousuke: what are you exactly trying to do?
[21:49] <Fishscene> Chousuke, I agree that my situation was (and still is) rediculous =(
[21:49] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: I'm not trying to do anything
[21:49] <jagggy> anyone??? please?
[21:49] <anirudh0> amrik: i joined in a bit late(only after you told about the module)..what is the exact error message that you said you were getting?
[21:49] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: I just helped Fishscene fix his permissions and thought about the GUI.
[21:49] <kindofabuzz> oh ok
[21:49] <anirudh0> insomnia: brasero has a data disc option
[21:49] <amrik> anirudh0: dmesg | grep intel =>  hda-intel: no codecs found!
[21:50] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?
[21:50] <Fishscene> Ok folks. My external USB drive is completely empty in both the GUI and the terminal. However, the GUI reports 7.6GB is used on the drive. How do I reclaim this?
[21:50] <insomnia> anirudh0: thnx
[21:50] <amrik> anirudh0: here is a pastebin of my alsa-info if you want it, http://pastebin.ca/1027393
[21:50] <Chousuke> Fishscene: anyway, I was saying, a part of ext3 filesystems are usually reserved for root
[21:50] <Chousuke> Fishscene: so that root has space to work with when stuff gets filled up
[21:50] <Chousuke> Fishscene: it's tunable, though.
[21:50] <kindofabuzz> Fishscene: format it? or you wanna save what's on there?
[21:50] <Chousuke> Fishscene: I just don't remember how...
[21:50] <fserve> by using ubuntu 64 there is any problem?
[21:50] <fserve> like dont have flash or java?
[21:50] <Chousuke> kindofabuzz: it's a new filesystem
[21:51] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?
[21:51] <anirudh0> amrik: one sec
[21:51] <revengervn> hi
[21:51] <zon> jagggy try googling for bash scripting
[21:51] <revengervn> does anyone know about ASTERISK
[21:51] <Fishscene> kindofabuzz, I would like ALL space available to me. 7.6GB missing is kind of a lot
[21:51] <revengervn> i'm writing AGI scripting for ASTERISK
[21:51] <Chousuke> Fishscene: it was /dev/sdb1, right?
[21:51] <kindofabuzz> Fishscene: what fs is it?  i know ext3 uses some of the filesystem, but should'nt be 7.6G, unless it's like a 2000G hd lol
[21:51] <a514> !kubuntu
[21:51] <Fishscene> Chousuke, yes. Mount point is /media/drive
[21:52] <anirudh0> amrik: the problem appears to be this : "04:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Unknown device 8880 (rev 0f)" ...line 49 on the pastebin
[21:52] <Fishscene> kindofabuzz: ext3
[21:52] <Fishscene> I have a 160GB drive
[21:52] <el1te> sup all
[21:52] <Sonja> ariqs is there a way for python to disconnect and reconnect Ubuntu's internet connection?
[21:52] <kindofabuzz> Fishscene: are you sure it's not 7.6M?
[21:52] <Chousuke> Fishscene: unmount it, and run "sudo tune2fs -m 0"
[21:52] <amrik> anirudh0: that looks like a modem codec to me
[21:52] <Chousuke> Fishscene: er
[21:52] <Fishscene> 7.5GB used, 140.2GB free
[21:52] <revengervn> hi
[21:52] <revengervn> HELLO
[21:52] <Chousuke> Fishscene: "sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdb1"
[21:52] <jagggy> zon, how would i do it then?
[21:52] <jagggy> it needs to open AND a terminal, AND do ls
[21:52] <jagggy> AND stay open*
[21:52] <revengervn> Does anyone know ASTERISK
[21:52] <Chousuke> Fishscene: then remount
[21:53] <unstable> revengervn:
[21:53] <unstable> revengervn: #asterisk
[21:53] <revengervn> :(
[21:53] <revengervn> i cannot connect to that channel
[21:53] <amrik> Sonja: if your script is running as root, you can do import os; os.system('/etc/init.d/networking restart')
[21:53] <revengervn> it requires authentication or somethin
[21:53] <userone> jagggy: the answer is Yes. try gnome-terminal --help for details.
[21:53] <eddieftw> !sound
[21:53] <el1te> i have an older nforce2 mb....its the abit nf7-s ver2.0....(with soundstorm apu)....i have 2 systems we will call that system "2"....my system 1 is my gaming rig....i used its ANALOG-OUT to goto system "2" ANALOG-IN and from their i used the soundstorm OPTICAL-OUT to got my reciever
[21:53] <kindofabuzz> well like i said ext3 uses some of the files system for journaling i guess, like my 60G hard drive, ext3 used up about 400M, so on a 140G drive, 7.6G may be right
[21:54] <el1te> how do i do this with linux...it worked fine in winxp
[21:54] <unstable> revengervn: /msg nickserv register ldkjlksj<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:54] <bigsexy> hey everyone
[21:54] <unstable> revengervn: then /join #asterisk
[21:54] <bigsexy> i got a question
[21:54] <revengervn> thanks so much
[21:54] <anirudh0> amrik: i meant the "Multimedia video controller: Unknown device " part...i'm no expert on kernel modules, but that does'nt look right
[21:54] <Hernan> hola
[21:54] <bigsexy> has anyone here ever used zenwalk?
[21:54] <tony_> Mukanya
[21:54] <revengervn> THANKS UNSTABLE
[21:54] <zon> jagggy I know i'm saying that the bash scripting might talk about how to keep it open...
[21:54] <bigsexy> i'm thinking about installing zenwalk but never tried it before, is it a good one?
[21:55] <el1te> i tried kubuntu 8.04 kde remix but with no luck
[21:55] <Sonja> amrik does "import os; os.system('/etc/init.d/networking restart')" disconnect the Internet access? or restore it?
[21:55] <el1te> can someone help me here
[21:55] <amrik> Sonja: it will disconnect and restart it
[21:55] <bigsexy> is zenwalk a good os?
[21:55] <Fishscene> sweet. Everything looks hunky-dory now. Thanks a lot guys :D
[21:55] <ipx> Can I somehow, with SSH Xforwarding open a graphical window from my laptop here then close the window and the process shall still be on even though I disconnect this computer?
[21:55] <Chousuke> Fishscene: did you try it+
[21:55] <kumarphilly> Steven_Office, are you steve cal?
[21:55] <Sonja> amrik I want to disable it completely. and then restore it to normal as a separate command.
[21:56] <Chousuke> ipx: not really. you need VNC for that.
[21:56] <bigsexy> vnc for what?
[21:56] <el1te> basically the only thing i want on the linux box to work is the sound..just use the machine to relay sound through optical out
[21:56] <el1te> i dont even care if it has X
[21:56] <Chousuke> binarydigit: remote X that can be detached
[21:56] <Fishscene> yes, I have all space available to me and I can write to it. :) Although I am kind of miffed about having to type in my password to mount it. But it's liveable
[21:56] <anirudh0> jagggy: maybe gnome terminal -x "ls&&cat" will help
[21:56] <Sonja> amrik or use the typing break functionality
[21:56] <el1te> whatever i need to do i will
[21:56] <Chousuke> er
[21:56] <el1te> can someone help me
[21:56] <anirudh0> jagggy: the "&&cat" will keep the terminal open
[21:56] <amrik> Sonja: err you can do networking stop, and networking start
[21:57] <Chousuke> Fishscene: does it have an fstab entry?
[21:57] <Sonja> amrik cool! that would turn off or on internet access? what is the exact command? thanks
[21:57] <Chousuke> Fishscene: if it does, add the "user" option, that means any user can mount it.
[21:57] <Fishscene> oo
[21:57] <Fishscene> ok
[21:57] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[21:57] <ariqs> I see ltmodem.o files in lib/linux-restricted/ltmodem
[21:58] <amrik> /etc/init.d/networking stop turns off internet access, /etc/init.d/networking start will reenable it (this will actually disable all networking, but you can figure out yourself how to do it on only 1 interface)
[21:58] <Sonja> amrik sweet!!
[21:59] <CyD> i'd like to script copying an ntfs partition with parted, but afaik ntfs is only support in gparted. anyone know of ways to do this?
[21:59] <balleyne> In Gutsy, there was a Hardware Device Information type entry in Preferences or Administration, but it's not there in Hardy anymore... is there an equivalent? or has it moved?
[21:59] <jagggy> it doesn't anirudh0
[21:59] <anirudh0> amrik: would'nt the result of /etc/init.d/networking depend on what he uses to connect to the net...pppoe or dhcp?
[21:59] <angelo> oi
[22:00] <amrik> anirudh0: well its more of a sledgehammer approach
[22:00] <ihcus> hi ppl ...how to use virtual box ose ?????
[22:00] <ihcus> i want to install xp sp2 inside ubuntu
[22:00] <sothe> Hey.. I got this problem, uhm, sound works in Music / Movie players, and it works in Firefox (Youtube etc), but it does not work in WoW running on WINE. It is set to ALSA
[22:00] <emma> balleyne: I see something for hardware drivers. Is that what you had in mind?
[22:01] <anirudh0> amrik: for dhcp /etc/init.d/dhcpd stop does the job
[22:01] <anirudh0> amrik: should be something similar for pppoe
[22:01] <jagggy> userone, it doesn't say it in the man
[22:01] <balleyne> emma: no, it's the equivalent of the MS Windows Device Manager in the Control Panel... it listed all connected devices with information about them
[22:01] <tichou> i  m on feisty, wnt to go to hardy
[22:01] <el1te> does anyone know pulseaudio pretty good
[22:01] <CyD> sothe: try a fresh config.wtf if it isn't new already. has worked for me
[22:02] <emma> balleyne: try opening a terminal and typing lspci | less
[22:02] <amrik> anirudh0: I don't even have that so I didn't know about it :)
[22:02] <anirudh0> jagggy: dunno about gnome-terminal...but it does work with xterm
[22:02] <anirudh0> amrik: same with me here...only dhcp :)
[22:02] <emma> balleyne: i'm not sure that's what you want either but at least that won't hurt anything.
[22:02] <balleyne> emma: Thanks, looks like that's my only option... ah well
[22:03] <amrik> anirudh0: unfortunately this doesnt fix my sound :(
[22:03] <emma> balleyne: was that the kind of information that is helpful for you?
[22:03] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[22:03] <ariqs> I see ltmodem.o files in lib/linux-restricted/ltmodem
[22:03] <anirudh0> amrik: yes...sorry about that...cant help much
[22:03] <fxfitz> Can anyone please help me set up my smb.conf file for samba? I only want to share ONE directory to ONE user.
[22:03] <anirudh0> amrik: k then...have to sleep now..its 2:30 am here in mumbai..hope you find your fix!
[22:03] <Sonja> what's the easiest python gui for linux?
[22:04] <movedx> How come, despite having an nVidia 8800GTS 320mB with the nVidia drivers installed and being able to play Nexuiz at 1680x1050 in Ultimate mode and maintain 80+ FPS, I can't move layers around in Gimp without the app. having a sluggish redraw rate, as though I don't have a graphics driver installed? I've tried with and without the visual.
[22:04] <balleyne> emma: a bit (lsusb in this case though). The GUI in Gutsy had more information too though, such as device serial numbers and manufacturers and all that sort of stuff
[22:04] <anirudh0> Sonja: i hate using caps, but GOOGLE
[22:04] <hitcher> Hey guys
[22:04] <kumarphilly> anyone here know how i can instlal ubuntu from a flash drive... cds arent afree and i dotn feel like waisting an cd
[22:04] <danbhfive> Sonja: whats a python gui for linux?
[22:04] <ariqs> sonja: Use Idle
[22:04] <zon> !samba >fxfitz
[22:04] <Sonja> I googled "python gui linux" but found unrelated throads
[22:04] <movedx> Sonja wants a Python IDE.
[22:04] <danbhfive> Sonja: what are you trying to do?
[22:04] <fxfitz> zon, I've looked at those results already. :(
[22:04] <jagggy> Can't ANYONE help me pleaseeeee?
[22:05] <Sonja> !IDE
[22:05] <Sonja> what's ide?
[22:05] <tony_> Try Komodo python IDE
[22:05] <movedx> Sonja: Intregrated Development Environment
[22:05] <tichou> one question : feisty to hardy, better to download a new iso or the update?
[22:05] <hexoroid> hah
[22:05] <hexoroid> my gnome is so laggy
[22:05] <jagggy> is it posible to do gnome-terminal -x ls and let the terminal stay open (please example...)
[22:05] <tichou> give him some coke
[22:05] <milosz> tichou, upgrade broke printing for me
[22:05] <danbhfive> tichou: well, its a matter of opinion, but I say new isa
[22:05] <zon> fxfitz, did you search the wiki thats how I set mine up
[22:06] <danbhfive> *iso
[22:06] <tichou> yep?
[22:06] <hitcher> Wow, is anyone not complaining about what's wrong with their computer lol
[22:06] <tichou> ok
[22:06] <hexoroid> whats better kde or gnome ?
[22:06] <Fishscene> I hate to ask, but I can't mount my drive through terminal. I'm using "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /dev/drive" and the error is "mount point /dev/drive does not exist".
[22:06] <milosz> i was only able to print again with a reinstall after trying a lot to fix it
[22:06] <tichou> with new iso, how to do for keep all my home stuffs?
[22:06] <Sonja> i want to make a simple program that pops up a window with a question, i click on one of the answers, and then it promts the next question, like a flowchart, etc. It will also do commands like /etc/init.d/networking to block my Internet during certain questions. it will also display a picture or sound in the window with the question.
[22:06] <zon> hexoroid, xfce
[22:06] <gordonjcp> since switching to Hardy, I can't type accented characters any more - where should I be looking to fix this?
[22:06] <hitcher> Ok.. Well yall complain, I'ma go install my printer...
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Fishscene you need to create the mount point in order to mount a drvie to it
[22:06] <milosz> tichou, i think there is an option now to keep everything that's not the system
[22:06] <theneb_eeepc> Is there any ubuntu eee channel?
[22:06] <tichou> oki milos__
[22:07] <ali_> can someone give me a link to the windows irc i gt a serious ubuntu windows **** up lol
[22:07] <hexoroid> zon i ment lag wise.. kde or gnome ?
[22:07] <fxfitz> zon, Yeah, I think so. I thought i had it set up right and then I can't access it. :(
[22:07] <Sonja> danbhfive i was told i could do that in python
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> hexoroid this is the support rom for ubuntu, you will not get an unbiased answer in here
[22:07] <Fishscene> Jack_Sparrow, pardon my misunderstanding, but I thought that's what I was trying to do... create a mount point for the drive to live in. >.> How would I go about creating the mount point?
[22:07] <theghost> hi can anyone tell me how i can change my default character encoding (i'm using GNOME and ubuntu 8.04)
[22:07] <danbhfive> Sonja: what?  what can you do in python?
[22:07] <hexoroid> jack ubutnu runs gnome.
[22:07] <milosz> Fishscene, mkdir
[22:07] <zon> hexoroid, if you want a fast x desktop xfce is faster then kde or gnome. gnome is better supported... so maybe you want to do that
[22:08] <userone> jagggy: i cant get it to stay open either but 'gnome-terminal -x ls > ls' will open/execute/ make the file of 'ls' output and close. backgrounding doesnt help. try a gnome-terminal and cron or at.
[22:08] <zon> fxfitz, you getting errors?
[22:08] <ali_> anyone know how to restore xp without the disks?
[22:08] <Sonja> danbhfive i want to make a simple program that pops up a window with a question, i click on one of the answers, and then it promts the next question, like a flowchart, etc. It will also do commands like /etc/init.d/networking to block my Internet during certain questions. it will also display a picture or sound in the window with the question.
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Fishscene sudo mkdir /dev/drive then sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[22:08] <ali_> or how to speed up ubuntu downloads lol
[22:08] <theghost> hi can anyone tell me how i can change my default character encoding (i'm using GNOME and ubuntu 8.04)
[22:08] <revengervn> does anyone have crack or serial of WINGWARE python IDE ?
[22:08] <revengervn> :(
[22:08] <hexoroid> zon you run xfce ?
[22:09] <fxfitz> zon, Actually, I tried changing my share to browsable and now I see it when I do "smbclient -L localhost -U"
[22:09] <zon> hexaroid, yep
[22:09] <danbhfive> Sonja: maybe start with glade and python
[22:09] <daftpunk> hi
[22:09] <zon> fxfitz, so fixed?
[22:09] <hexoroid> are you able to run apps like xhcat and so on on it ?
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Fishscene sudo mkdir /dev/drive then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /dev/drive         sorry, copy paste got me
[22:09] <tichou> i m a fooooool..tryin the update feisty to hardy!
[22:09] <Fishscene> Just a sec..
[22:09] <Sonja> danbhfive I type sudo apt-get install glade ?
[22:09] <fxfitz> zon, however, when I'm an another computer I will do "smbclient -L <server ip> -U" and it keeps giving me a timeout
[22:09] <jagggy> k, userone do you got any decent terminal where it does work in then?
[22:09] <zon> hexoroid, well I an't chatting with telepathy now
[22:09] <Chousuke> Fishscene: you don't usually mount drives in /dev/
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tichou you need to go to gutsy then hardy
[22:09] <theghost> hi can anyone tell me how i can change my default character encoding to windows-1251 (i'm using GNOME and ubuntu 8.04)
[22:09] <Chousuke> Fishscene: you put them in /media or /mnt
[22:09] <tichou> i m on gutsy
[22:09] <daftpunk> Is there any antivirus for Linux?
[22:09] <tichou> oups=)
[22:09] <wy> Is there a accurate way to find out the number of heads in a harddisk? fdisk, parted, testdisk... they seem to report different numbers
[22:10] <tichou> daftpunk,  try windoze
[22:10] <Chousuke> Fishscene: and you can create the mount point by simply mkdir:ing it :)
[22:10] <revengervn> does anyone have crack or serial of WINGWARE python IDE ?
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Fishscene I agree that you are selecting an odd mount point
[22:10] <tichou> if u want some virus =D
[22:10] <jagggy> daftpunk, yes, but why would you run it? you don't get viruses :p
[22:10] <Chousuke> Fishscene: it's just a directory, nothing more.
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> revengervn Not in here.. thanks
[22:10] <userone> wy- hdparm i think
[22:10] <revengervn> :(
[22:10] <danbhfive> Sonja: well, that would install it, but you should google for the documentation
[22:10] <revengervn> sorry
[22:10] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[22:10] <ariqs> I see ltmodem.o files in lib/linux-restricted/ltmodem
[22:10] <whm__> Anti-virus for linux.  Try sophos.  I don't think you can buy just one though.
[22:10] <Sonja> ok thanks danbhfive
[22:10] <mannytu> !virus
[22:10] <robg_> daftpunkt: I was also amazed that you need so little defensive software on Linux.
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !antivirus
[22:10] <fxfitz> zon, So then, no, it wouldn't be fixed. :(
[22:11] <theghost> hi can anyone tell me how i can change my default character encoding to windows-1251 (i'm using GNOME and ubuntu 8.04)
[22:11] <daftpunk> jagggy I just read about it somewhere that spyware and viruses are not an issue on linux, I just wasn't sure how old was that ste
[22:11] <zon> fxfitz, sorry all i cat help you with is stuff on the wiki :(
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> daftpunk They are not a problem
[22:11] <jagggy> daftpunk, never been, doubt it ever will :p
[22:11] <fxfitz> zon, Alright. Thanks though!
[22:11] <daftpunk> so no trojans, keyloggers stuff like that?
[22:11] <Jeruvy> daftpunk: rootkits are the big problem on linux
[22:11] <jagggy> daftpunk, nope
[22:12] <userone> daftpunk: install chkrootkit to be safe.
[22:12] <daftpunk> I read about that, free rootkit scanner was AVG but they discontinued it
[22:12] <robg_> daftpunkt: Rootkit Hunter is a good disinfective.
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> daftpunk rootkit is only a problem if you are using programs from unsafe sources outside official repos
[22:12] <theghost> hi can anyone tell me how i can change my default character encoding to windows-1251 (i'm using GNOME and ubuntu 8.04)
[22:12] <jagggy> k, userone do you got any decent terminal where it does work in then? ( the stay open thing )
[22:12] <zon> !lang
[22:12] <daftpunk> aha ok thanks
[22:12] <Flare183> !language
[22:12] <freewilly> hehe
[22:12] <zon> lol
[22:12] <Flare183> !lol
[22:13] <robg_> theghost: Gnome is an easy desktop. You should be able to find your way around it.
[22:13] <Sonja> danbhfive i'll try easygui too
[22:13] <userone> jagggy: gnome-terminal alone will open a xterm an stay open, using gnome.
[22:13] <zon> nice one!
[22:13] <daftpunk> !omg
[22:13] <Flare183> ...
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jagggy what are you trying to do in a term and keep it open?
[22:13] <theghost> ok i'll try again
[22:13] <zon> sigh
[22:13] <ali_> anyone know how to speed up ubuntus downloads
[22:13] <MrObvious> daftpunk: Don't play with the bot or incur moderator wrath.
[22:14] <zon> ali_ get a fatter pipe
[22:14] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow, just run 1 command, and let it stay open
[22:14] <tichou> C ya
[22:14] <MrObvious> ali_: From the Internet or for downloading packages?
[22:14] <Anyday> is there a key i can press during the ubuntu install to see whats going on in?  it keeps hanging on the splash screen
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jagggy give me your example again please
[22:14] <Xore|work> how do i turn off apport?
[22:14] <daftpunk> Now I wanted to use LOL :d
[22:14] <gordonjcp> daftpunk: there are no practical viruses in Linux
[22:14] <MrObvious> Anyday: Try Escape.
[22:14] <gordonjcp> daftpunk: and furthermore, there never will be
[22:14] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow: gnome-terminal -x ls and it needs to stay open (other terminals may)
[22:14] <emma> theghost: -- try this -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30803&highlight=change+character+encoding
[22:14] <robg_> ali_: I have downloaded .iso's that took 12 hours to download. I swithc on the computer and go to bed.
[22:15] <ali_> MrObvious: Internet my downloads were much quicker on windows
[22:15] <danbhfive> Sonja: I just googled easygui, I would say go with that.  It looks easier than GLADE.  Use GLADE is you wanted it to look really good or something
[22:15] <Flare183> daftpunk: Sorry we don't play around
[22:15] <daftpunk> SO if I use package manager for updates and software I should be ok
[22:15] <Xore|work> anyone know how to turn apport off?
[22:15] <Sonja> thanks for all yoru help danbhfive!!!
[22:15] <Flare183> !repeat | Xore|work
[22:15] <MrObvious> daftpunk: Any viruses have been made in labs and require root access to begin with. Also any patches have already been made to the kernel much quicker than Microsoft can roll out fixes for Windows because of open source software.
[22:15] <MrObvious> !ipv6 | ali_
[22:15] <fxfitz> zon, Do you think I can't access it because I'm not on the same workgroup? I'm trying to connect to the samba server from a different location
[22:15] <ali_> robg_:good point lol
[22:16] <Flare183> ...
[22:16] <daftpunk> mmm thats pretty cool
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> jagggy I want to say add && to the end of the command you type in a term to keep it open..  But I may be misunderstandiong what you want to do
[22:16] <zon> fxfitz, no i think it is because of the user account trying to access it, if it asks for authentication try root and your user password
[22:16] <MrObvious> ali_: Disable ipv6 and it should speed up.
[22:16] <daftpunk> Is there any downside of linux btw?
[22:16] <emma> daftpunk: no.
[22:16] <zon> fxfitz, you need to make sure you have set up your windows account username in the smb server properly
[22:16] <zon> daftpunk, games
[22:16] <emma> daftpunk: but that is off topic for this channel. :)
[22:17] <freewilly> its not always plug&play
[22:17] <Xore|work> Flare183: thanks, i'm well aware of that. which is why i refined my question from, "how do i do this" to "does anyone know how to do this"
[22:17] <fxfitz> zon, Well i'm not even trying to connect with Windows. I want to connect with my ubuntu computer
[22:17] <daftpunk> I started to use it about week or 2 ago and I love it more every day
[22:17] <stroyan> Xore|work:  Put enabled=0 in /etc/default/apport
[22:17] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow, that won't work, it just closes the terminal
[22:17] <MrObvious> daftpunk: Some software and hardware that drivers exist for on Windows may not work on Linux...like tethering smartphones based off of Windows Mobile, or Quickbooks.
[22:17] <Xore|work> stroyan: thanks
[22:17] <MrObvious> daftpunk: But most software can run either in a VM or there are alternatives that are quite workable.
[22:17] <zon> fxfitz, you want to go from ubuntu to ubuntu smb?
[22:17] <Flare183> ....ok
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> daftpunk #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussions, this is support for specific problems
[22:17] <freewilly> but my asus xonar works good
[22:17] <daftpunk> ok thanks
[22:17] <fxfitz> zon, I want to set up a fileserver that I can access from anywhere, whether it be with ubuntu or windows.
[22:17] <zon> i usually use smb for going from windows to ubuntu
[22:18] <leftbas> how do i reset my password?
[22:18] <Xore|work> it's not so much that i really need it off, i'm doing python development, and it's driving me crazy whenever a script fails it tries to report it
[22:18] <zon> fxfitz, its calld ftp
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[22:18] <minterior> I'm having problems with recent ubuntu-server upgrade (from 6.06 to 8.04). My system hangs on reboot after init-bottom init script. Anyone knows how to fix it?
[22:18] <fxfitz> zon, But I want to be able to mount the server like it's a disk.
[22:18] <userone> leftbas: passwd
[22:18] <minterior> I've found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/116727
[22:18] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow, that won't work, it just closes the terminal
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jagggy k
[22:18] <leftbas> userone: i don't mean on my machine, i mean for freenode
[22:18] <catunda> I've been having a problem at iptables set up. Does anybody knows a good email list do discuss iptables issues?
[22:18] <leftbas> userone: sorry i wasn't specific
[22:19] <ali_> anyone know how to get my ubuntu partition bigger?
[22:19] <Xore|work> better yet, is there an easy way to tell apport to ignore certain scripts entirely?
[22:19] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow: the perfect example is backtrack, you got nmap in their menu, and when you click on it, it spawns a terminal and run nmap, and stay open...
[22:19] <daftpunk> How can I get rid of default keyring password? Is there any danger in doing that?
[22:19] <fxfitz> zon, Any ideas?
[22:19] <userone> leftbas: i used the website for that.
[22:19] <Sonja> how do i change my pythonpath in .bashrc ? "sudo gedit... something??"
[22:19] <smev81> can it happen that you join a channel but you dont join, so that you cant be seen by other members?
[22:19] <robg_> ali_ if anything can do it it will be Gparted.
[22:20] <leftbas> userone: i've been there, but there's no info on resetting a freenode password
[22:20] <fxfitz> Sonja, sudo gedit ~/.bashrc
[22:20] <Sonja> thanks
[22:20] <zon> for windows you need smb and to mount from linux you need mount
[22:20] <suriro> jagggy: create a profile that holds the terminal open when command exits, and use that profile as argument while invoking gnome-terminal..
[22:20] <Xore|work> aha. apport blacklist.
[22:20] <zon> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-52368.html
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> fxfitz please suggest gksudo gedit and not sudo for gui apps
[22:20] <jagggy> suriro, how? :s
[22:20] <newair> How do you unlock network manager? I do not know the password. I am able to login to the system.  I clicked on a link under details at the "unlock" dialog box. It led me to an authorization dialog box which looked like it was for changing policies. Can anyone help me get to my network manager?
[22:20] <CShadowRun> Jack_Sparrow whats the diffrence?
[22:20] <ali_> robg_: yeh but its got loads of stuff on it im not sure whats what
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[22:20] <fxfitz> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, sir! Any reason why? gksudo is definitely two letters longer than sudo, therefore longer to type :-P
[22:20] <smev81> hello? can u read my post? Am i connected?
[22:21] <Sonja> how do I add a command like "sudo gedit ~/.bashrc" as a clickable icon on the panel?
[22:21] <CShadowRun> Jack_Sparrow i see :p
[22:21] <zon> newair, it wants your password to unlock if you can do sudo
[22:21] <tyler_2> I cannot get restricted or other drivers to work with my nvidia series 7 card, could someone walk me through it please?
[22:21] <suriro> jagggy: just have a look at the menus of gome-terminal..
[22:21] <Sonja> for easy future access
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> fxfitz Not a big deal if you dont mind being locked out of your system due to permissions issues
[22:21] <daftpunk> Does anybody know pls, how to remove the default keyring password so my system connects to Wifi automatically on startup?
[22:21] <smev81> ubuntu is silly
[22:21] <robg_> ali_ There are two safe Gparted operations. 1. paritition delete. 2. partition resize. It depends on what is on your drive.
[22:21] <zcat[1]> What programs exist that will let me record from /dev/video0, composite1. I can view it perfectly with tvtime, but none of the recording programs seem capable of recording anything other than 'Tuner"
[22:21] <CShadowRun> smev81 your silly
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> smev81 dont be disrespectful...
[22:21] <fxfitz> Jack_Sparrow, I've never had that problem before. When does that happen/
[22:21] <smev81> i just tested if i am connected
[22:22] <suriro> jagggy: also 'man gnome-terminal' for commandline options
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> just testing to see if I am still an op
[22:22] <fxfitz> zon, So, my ubuntu server doesn't need to use samba to mount a networked drive on Windows?
[22:22] <ihcus> hi ppl ....i have a prob..i cant increase my number of desktops to more than 1 ?
[22:22] <zcat[1]> at this point it looks like the best solution is to watch it in tvtime and then record that with xrecordmydesktop. Surely there's a better solution?!!
[22:22] <ali_> robg_: thats the problem theres 2 partitions saying linuxs swap so i presume there my ubuntu 8.04 and the 7.10 i cant get rid off
[22:22] <MrObvious> Jack_Sparrow: Feel better? ;\
[22:23] <fxfitz> zon, I was under the impression that I need to use Samba if I want my windows machine to be able to mount a ubuntu directory
[22:23] <zon> fxfitz, if you want to support network drives like normal windows servers from windows machines you need samba
[22:23] <theghost> emma thanks
[22:23] <zon> but to do it from linux to linux you don't need samba
[22:23] <ali_> robg_:cause it says cant delete under nuber 6 or somethin
[22:23] <smev81> i have a bad feeling
[22:23] <emma> theghost: you are very welcome. :)
[22:23] <robg_> ali_ swap partitions are empty parititions. They contain no data. You cannot delete a swap partition but you can reduce it in size.
[22:23] <emma> PriceChild ^
[22:23] <theghost> :)
[22:23] <zcat[1]> and yes I have tried everything in synaptic that claims to record video, none of them seem capable of changing the input source even when they have a dialog for it... they still record ant-racing off the tuner
[22:23] <wy> Is there a way to remove grub under linux?
[22:24] <ali_> robg_: so how do i know which one is ubuntu im using and which one im not?
[22:24] <MrObvious> wy: You COULD go to LILO.
[22:24] <fxfitz> zon, Right. Okay. Now how would I go about mounting that samba share with my ubuntu machine if whenever I try to access it keeps giving me a timeout?
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> emma may I have a quick pm
[22:24] <ihcus> can anybody help me .....i cant increase my desktops to more than 1 .....pls ???
[22:24] <psykroll> Hi, can someone help me update VirtualBox on Ubuntu Hardy?
[22:24] <zon> !smbclient
[22:24] <wy> MrObvious: I just want to remove all bootloaders tempararily
[22:24] <emma> Jack_Sparrow: yes you are always welcome. Of course.
[22:24] <MrObvious> wy: You have to have some kind of bootloader otherwise your computer will never get past the BIOS.
[22:24] <ryanakca> I'm running an upgrade from the command line. I made my terminal smaller while it was running. However, I've put it back to it's original size, and debconf doesn't seem to want to resize. Is there a way to make in redraw itself?
[22:24] <robg_> ali_ If you have 2 linuxes installed they will each have created their own swap partition.
[22:25] <ali_> so how do i delete 7.10
[22:25] <zon> grrr
[22:25] <robg_> ali_ If you want to delete Ubuntu 7.10 then you can use Gparted and simply delete the partition in which 7.10 resides.
[22:26] <ali_> so how do i know in which one it resides tho?
[22:26] <zcat[1]> wy: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1  should do it, although this is probably a really, really bad idea.
[22:26] <carol> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu on my MacBook. In OS X there is this key stroke (ctrl+alt+cmd+F8) that changes all colors of the screen to their complements. This is very nice to have a 'dark view' quickly. Is their such a thing in Ubuntu?
[22:26] <ryanakca> zon: what are you looking for, the linux to linux equivalent of samba? look for sshfs
[22:26] <zon> !sshfs
[22:26] <zon> well it was worth a shot lol
[22:26] <ryanakca> !info sshfs | zon
[22:26] <arno-t> hi all do you know of any good command-line mp3 tag extractors?
[22:26] <zon> ahh info...
[22:27] <zcat[1]> Is the bootloader the first 512 bytes on the drive? I think that's correct
[22:27] <robg_> ali_ Get Gparted from Sourceforge.net on a LiveCD and load it from CD-ROM. Gparted will tell you what is on your drive.
[22:27] <fxfitz> ryanakca, No no, I want to use samba because i want to share a filesystem between linux and windows users.
[22:27] <zon> fxfitz ok checkout sshfs like they are saying and also smbclient
[22:27] <fxfitz> ryanakca, However, I want this share to be accessible to people outside the network/workgroup thing.
[22:27] <ryanakca> zon: !info is for the package... just plain !foo is the factoid
[22:27] <userone> zcat[1]: it's the mbr, master boot record
[22:27] <psykroll> Can someone help me update VirtualBox on Ubuntu Hardy?
[22:27] <ali_> robg_: i gt gparted on ubuntu wont tht work?
[22:27] <newair> zon: for some reason, that works now, but did not work a couple days ago.  I have no clue, but thank you.  I don't think I would have tried it again.  I hope I just typed the wrong thing before.  Yes thank you
[22:27] <fxfitz> zon, Hmm. Alright. Does smbclient work with sshfs?
[22:27] <zon> tks rayanakca
[22:27] <smev81> ubuntu is not silly
[22:28] <ihcus> guys help me out...i cant increase my number of desktops from 1
[22:28] <zcat[1]> userone: so that nasty line of 'dd' should zero out the MBR right.. and hopefully not the partition table as well.
[22:28] <zon> fxfitz they are different.
[22:28] <xeugene> how about ubuntu to ubuntu filesharing can samba is right package
[22:28] <userone> zcat[1]: it'll reset the mbr to nothing.
[22:28] <zon> does the bot send links to man pages?
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] what line for dd?
[22:28] <zon> !man
[22:28] <zon> ooh nevermind...
[22:28] <psykroll> does anyone know the command to update an installed program?
[22:28] <zcat[1]> Jack_Sparrow: the one that dumps 512 bytes of /dev/zero over the mbr
[22:29] <robg_> ali_ I never use an operating system to organise that operating system. That OS is only active in its own partition.
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] that WILL erase your partition table
[22:29] <zcat[1]> someone asked how to 'remove' GRUB.. that ought to do it.
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> psykroll: sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade all packages on your system
[22:29] <seracht> Hi, can someone recommend me a good chat application (specifically for msn)
[22:29] <fxfitz> zon, So far samba is working perfectly. The only thing I need is to be able for clients OUTSIDE the network/workgroup to interact with the fileshare
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> !msn | seracht
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] 442 I think is just the mbr.. one sec while I check
[22:30] <smev81> !banned
[22:30] <zon> fxfitz...windows clients can use already installed windows stuff, ubuntu clients can use smbclient
[22:30] <newair> Got to go. Bye
[22:30] <zcat[1]> Jack_Sparrow: cool, I wouldn't want anyone to do more damage than they asked for :)
[22:30] <ryanakca> fxfitz: they don't work together I don't think... however, if you really want to use sshfs for both windows and linux and any combination there of, see the inefficient http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/using-sshfs-to-access-remote-directories-in-windows/
[22:30] <manoff> i have a problem; when i create .bash_profile file (which did not exist before) and write "export PAHT=$PATH:/home/myname/bin" there, suddenly the colors dissappear from 'ls' command, why?
[22:30] <psykroll> Odd-rationale: No, that didn't work. It says everything is good, but VirtualBox isn't the current version
[22:30] <smev81> !blocked
[22:30] <seracht> Odd-rationale is pidgin the best one though or are there better options
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1]  Note: 512 includes the partition info 446 first partition is 16 bytes and gets to 462 Would just be the boot info... use hda if needed on your system             copy mbr.backup to a USB Drive or other media
[22:30] <fxfitz> zon, Then how come I can connect to the share with computers inside the local network, but not with computers outside?
[22:31] <zon> fxfitz, firewall?
[22:31] <ryanakca> fxfitz: I don't really know the whole question, I'm just guessing. Firewall?
[22:31] <manoff> i have a problem; when i create .bash_profile file (which did not exist before) and write "export PAHT=$PATH:/home/myname/bin" there, suddenly the colors dissappear from 'ls' command, why?
[22:31] <zon> !iptables
[22:31] <fxfitz> zon, Nope. I have all my ports forwarded correctly. :(
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> seracht: pidgin is quite good. kopete might be better as i heard that it supports webcam. and there is amsn...
[22:31] <ryanakca> fxfitz: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba ? hmm... If you created an SSH tunnel and connected to the remote shares and from the remote shares through it?
[22:31] <tristan_> join #gstreamer
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> manoff: did you delete the line containing the ls alias?
[22:31] <PedanticSteve> does anyone know of a Linux utility in Ubuntu that can convert all line breaks in a text file to another character like ";' or something?
[22:32] <zon> fxfitz, i can't help you with networking issues...they are impossible to troubleshoot unless you know the complete network topology
[22:32] <zcat[1]> wy: (only because you asked) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1  should do it, although this is probably a really, really bad idea. Not having an MBR makes your system unable to boot.. you most likely want to -replace- the MBR with some other bootloader
[22:32] <psykroll> Ok, another problem: I've screwed up my permissions. can someone help me?
[22:32] <manoff> Odd-rationale: there was no .bash_profile file before, when i rename it into something else, ls colors work again
[22:32] <j_> PedenticSteve: vi, emacs, nedit
[22:32] <manoff> Odd-rationale: i mean, when i logout and login again
[22:32] <ryanakca> PedanticSteve: sed, ex: sed -e 's/$/;/g'    should do that.
[22:32] <robg_> Firewall: to activate the firewall go to Terminal, type sudo su <pw> ufw enable <enter> ufw logging on <enter> ufw default deny <enter>
[22:32] <PedanticSteve> thanks ryanakca
[22:32] <MrObvious> ryanakca: Hmm I'm gonna need to learn sed. lol
[22:32] <ryanakca> PedanticSteve: CLI only though...
[22:32] <zon> !chmod > psykrool
[22:33] <seracht> Another thing. I installed CompizConfig Settings Manager, but I don't think it's working
[22:33] <zon> !chmod > psykroll
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, but time for me to call it a day...  and just lurk while I work
[22:33] <PedanticSteve> I need CLI so I can use it in a script
[22:33] <PedanticSteve> thanks
[22:33] <seracht> do I have to set something to make the effects take into effect?
[22:33] <manoff> Odd-rationale: my reasoning is that there must be some sort of default .bash_profile somewhere that gets overriden when i write my own into home dir
[22:33] <ali_> robg_: but how will i know whts on each partition?
[22:33] <Odd-rationale> manoff: so colors are not working now? or you have to logout to get coloors?
[22:33] <robg_> ali_ Gparted will tell you. It recognizes all known filesystems.
[22:33] <userone> manoff: you over-wrote your environment aliases and variables in ~/.bashrc
[22:33] <psykroll> zon: bash: !chmod: event not found
[22:34] <seracht> never mind, fixed it
[22:34] <zon> psykroll, no just chmod
[22:34] <ali_> robg_: so it should say ubuntu 7.10
[22:34] <psykroll> o
[22:34] <ali_> ??
[22:34] <manoff> Odd-rationale: when i have my own .bash_profile and i logout / login again, colors dont work. when i remove the file or rename it into something else and logout/login, colors work again
[22:34] <zon> !chmod
[22:34] <zon> the ! is for the bot
[22:34] <manoff> Odd-rationale: that is, when i have .bash_profile in home dir and login, colors dont work
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> manoff: the .bash_profile is probably overwriting what you have in .bashrc
[22:34] <shazzam> hey people i downloaded the live cd and burnt the iso to a cd
[22:35] <manoff> Odd-rationale: aha
[22:35] <shazzam> when i pop in the cd it just comes uso?p as an
[22:35] <shazzam> when i pop in the cd it just comes up as an iso?
[22:35] <Odd-rationale> manoff: consider adding the path line to your .bashrc file instead
[22:35] <manoff> Odd-rationale: so should i / can i include .bashrc from .bash_profile
[22:35] <shazzam> how do i play it?
[22:35] <manoff> Odd-rationale: man bash says that .bashrc is for non-login shells only
[22:35] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[22:35] <ariqs> I see ltmodem.o files in lib/linux-restricted/ltmodem
[22:35] <fxfitz> ryanakca, Would you mind if I paste you a few things in a private message?
[22:35] <robg_> ali_ Just get the Gparted Live 0.3.6-7.iso from Sourceforge.net. Link in via Wikipedia: Gparted.
[22:36] <manoff> Odd-rationale: while .bash_profile is for login shells, but i try to do that
[22:36] <zon> shzzaam, did you burn the iso image or burn the actual iso to your disk?
[22:36] <manoff> hold on
[22:36] <PedanticSteve> ryanakca I tried that sed command and it added a ";" to the end of each line, but did not replace the line breaks with them... what I am looking for is something to replace the line breaks so I end up with one really long line
[22:36] <psykroll> zon:   chmod: missing operand
[22:36] <zon> psykroll try man chmod
[22:36] <zon> read up
[22:36] <jrib> ariqs: iirc the messages I read yesterday suggested either lt_serial or ltserial
[22:36] <shazzam> ...i think... i...i
[22:36] <shazzam> i dunno
[22:37] <shazzam> i double clicked the iso and it ning softwareopened up sonic bu
[22:37] <MadSurfer> Google Eart 4.3.7204.0836 (beta) running only a root with hardy, any idea =
[22:37] <shazzam> grrr
[22:37] <zon> shazzam, might want to double check
[22:37] <shazzam> i double clicked the iso and it opened sonic burning software
[22:37] <manoff> Odd-rationale: by the way, do i must use "export" keyword in front of "export PATH=$PATH...."?
[22:37] <shazzam> then i just pressed burn?
[22:37] <Doodluv> I used the update-manger to go from 7.04 to 7.10 and the update-manger pretty much bombed out on me during the upgrade process. I am not able to login as a regular user. I could kill gdm and startx as root and gain access to gnome desktop....until I rebooted the machine...now it hangs on boot. My question is: can I run the install from the 7.10 disk and reinstall ubuntu w/o destroying my /home partition?
[22:37] <MrBashir> In the newest ubuntu 8.x where can I find the screen and Graphics menu?
[22:37] <manoff> or is "PATH=$PATH..." just enought?
[22:37] <shazzam> how was i suppose to burn it?
[22:38] <[chr0n0s]> is there any way to have resumable downloads over ssh ?
[22:38] <zon> shazzam, maybe, you need to burn the "image" to the disk no the actual ISO
[22:38] <userone> manoff: read the /etc/environment  file
[22:38] <[Ely]> Hello guys I just downloaded and installed the Nvidia Linux drivers from their website but after rebooting I always get a message saying I do not appear to be using the NVidia drivers and asks me to configure X my display is running on very low resolution too.
[22:38] <shazzam> how do i get to the image?
[22:38] <manoff> userone: will do
[22:38] <manoff> userone: it only contains "PATH=...."
[22:38] <zon> shazzam, you will have to read the documentation on your burning software
[22:38] <amenado> manoff-> also man export  so you get an idea what it does
[22:38] <[Ely]> I did what it asks me under root but I keep getting the same error, anyone can help me please?
[22:38] <manoff> ok
[22:38] <Odd-rationale> manoff: I use export PATH:...
[22:38] <MrBashir> In the newest ubuntu 8.x where can I find the screen and Graphics menu?
[22:39] <psykroll> not everyone wants or should have to learn a bunch of commands
[22:39] <zon> [ely] did you change or xorg config files to use the new driver?
[22:39] <manoff> ok thanks for your help, i have to logout/login to see if it works now
[22:39] <manoff> see you later
[22:39] <[Ely]> zon I dont have a clue how to
[22:39] <userone> manoff: insert this. PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[22:39] <[Ely]> if you could help me Zon I would so much appreciate it
[22:40] <zon> [ely] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[22:40] <zon> !wiki
[22:40] <wolfdart> people, on rythmbox I activated the lyrics plugin, but I dont know what I need to do to the lyrics show up on screen! O_o
[22:40] <[Ely]> alright Zon I ll check it out
[22:40] <[Ely]> thanks
[22:40] <ariqs> jrib: ltserial and lt_serial doesn't work either
[22:40] <zon> [ely] np
[22:41] <manoff> ok it works now when i put the PATH into .bashrc instead of .bash_profile
[22:41] <l2s> Hi, When trying to mount an external usb drive, I want it to always mount at the same point when that particular drive is plugged in, anyone know how to make this work?
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> manoff: good
[22:41] <manoff> btw there is no man entry for export
[22:41] <ringer> does anyone know how i can change the notifications of my bottom panel to make updated windows more noticable/
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> l2s: try adding a disk label
[22:41] <userone> manoff: yeah, that'll be user-specific and just peachy also :)
[22:41] <manoff> somebody suggested be to check "man export"
[22:41] <l2s> How would the label help
[22:41] <manoff> there is no such thing
[22:42] <l2s> I want to mount it to a particular directory
[22:42] <zon> !wiki nvidia
[22:42] <xiambax> Hello how do i install xfce in ubuntu
[22:42] <zon> thought it would maybe give me a linky
[22:42] <xiambax> im trying to do apt-get install xfce but it doesnt work
[22:42] <zon> xiambax sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <manoff> xiambax: i think you have to have xubuntu
[22:42] <manoff> yeah
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> l2s: hal would use /media/<disk_label> instead of /media/disk-1
[22:42] <userone> manoff: you can change path on the fly, but you must 'export PATH' too.
[22:42] <Templarian> i need to edit a file i don't have permissions to and i can't access it from root
[22:42] <Templarian> its in my usernames folder
[22:43] <manoff> userone: ok
[22:43] <MrBashir> Anyone: Where do I find the Screen and Graphics tool in Hardy Heron?!
[22:43] <manoff> userone: im learning about shell scripting and have lot to learn
[22:43] <Templarian> puff: how do i save a file that i do not have access to?
[22:43] <xiambax> ok thanks its downloading
[22:43] <l2s> ah
[22:43] <MrObvious> MrBashir: What did it do before?
[22:43] <Bizzeh> is there any way of reducing the sensitivity of the scroll wheel on my mouse?
[22:44] <jAk> hello everybody ;)
[22:44] <userone> Templarian: you can copy it
[22:44] <ariqs> hah, i want to do the exact opposite of that, bizzeh
[22:44] <Odd-rationale> manoff: also, you don't have to logout to use your new .bashrc configuration. just run it with ". ~/.bashrc"
[22:44] <zon> you guys should trade mice then
[22:44] <MrBashir> MrObvious: select a different monitor other that Plug and Play. I need it for a headless server
[22:44] <robg_> MrBashir: are you referring to the top quality multimedia software in de Medibuntu Repositories ?
[22:44] <Templarian> userone: and i do this how?
[22:44] <seracht> hey is there a site out there that kinda shows some good ubuntu desktops and good compizconfig settings to set?
[22:44] <manoff> Odd-rationale: cool i didnt know that
[22:44] <Bizzeh> mine is a ms laser mouse 5000, has bearings in the scrollwheel, and no click, so its ultra sensitive
[22:44] <Odd-rationale> seracht: yes, hold on. let me get the link...
[22:44] <seracht> Compiz is so big and it wil take forever to try to customize it. Would like to see what's out there and copy some other styles
[22:44] <zon> anyone experiencing  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-gnome/+bug/183673 or know how to fix it?
[22:45] <userone> Templarian: a hidden file in your home folder?
[22:45] <Templarian> no its completely visible
[22:45] <MrBashir> robg_: No i'm not
[22:45] <seracht> Thank you Odd-rationale
[22:45] <Templarian> if i edit it and try to save it says i can't
[22:45] <Templarian> userone:
[22:45] <seracht> specifically looking for the compiz settings
[22:45] <MrObvious> MrBashir: Maybe System -> Preferences -> Appearance or Screen Resolution?
[22:45] <userone> Templarian: cp /home/user/file  /home/user/file.backup
[22:45] <jAk> Anybody know OR is it possible to get outlook 2007 on ubuntu using either Wine or crossover?
[22:45] <Templarian> userone: i'll try
[22:45] <seme> hi guys... I'm trying to join my ubuntu workstation to my active directory... I tried the likewiseopen program and it said I was joined to the domain but ssh doesn't allow me to log in... kinit works though
[22:46] <j_> seracht: there really aren't THAT many compiz settings... why don't you just use the graphical config tools and play around?
[22:46] <MrBashir> MrObvious: screen resolution mentions only 800x640 because its headless...
[22:46] <seme> and samba isn't set up to use ad... does likewise do that?
[22:46] <MrObvious> MrBashir: Well I tried. lol
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> seracht: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2008/4/26/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion-074
[22:46] <kindofabuzz> j_: there are ALOT of compix setings
[22:46] <j_> seracht: the "advanced desktop settings" tool is quite good ...
[22:46] <MrBashir> and 640x480, but nothing else
[22:46] <kindofabuzz> compiz
[22:46] <j_> kindofabuzz: not really dude ...
[22:46] <emma> !info simple-ccsm > emma
[22:46] <seracht> thanks
[22:46] <robg_> MrBashir; My screen resolution is 1440 x 900
[22:47] <manoff> ok gotta run now see ya
[22:47] <MrObvious> MrBashir: Sometimes you have to manually add resolutions to xorg.conf
[22:47] <MrObvious> .
[22:47]  * Bizzeh licks 1680x1050 screen
[22:47] <takyoji> Is Compiz or Compiz-Fusion packaged with Ubuntu 8.04?
[22:47] <emma> seracht: I suggest you try installing simple-ccsm You do that by opening a terminal and typing: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[22:47] <emma> takyoji: it is Compiz-Fusion now.
[22:47] <ariqs> I downloaded http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 and the linux-image and installed them by double clicking on them from the flash drive. The packages were said to be installed successfully. However, ltmodem, the reason I got the package, doesn't show up anywhere, and sudo modprobe ltmodem (what soundray suggested) does nothing. What might be wrong, what might I need to try at this point?
[22:47] <ariqs> I see ltmodem.o files in lib/linux-restricted/ltmodem
[22:47] <j_> takyoji: compiz comes with 8.04
[22:47] <l2s> I think i found a bug in hardy when you boot up and it automounts a usb drive, when you manually try to set the volume mount point and do it wrong, there is no way to get back in to change it
[22:47] <takyoji> j_ and emma: thank you
[22:47] <emma> j_ oh I thought the whole thing is called compiz-fusion now.
[22:47] <MrObvious> Bizzeh: 1920x1280 here :D
[22:48] <l2s> gui errors out says cant mount and then stops
[22:48] <emma> takyoji: no problem. Good luck.
[22:48] <j_> emma: yeah compiz-fusion .. compiz + beryl .. which is basically just compiz with a couple neat-o beryl plugins ..
[22:48] <j_> same thing :)
[22:48] <Bizzeh> MrObvious: if i could be bothered, i would hook my tv in via hdmi also, and go for 1080p + 1680x1050 :D
[22:48] <emma> j_ right. :)
[22:48] <takyoji> Then where's the settings for Beryl? :P
[22:48] <MrObvious> Bizzeh: Lucky son of a cat. :p
[22:48] <j_> takyoji: are you sure you aren't using compiz?
[22:48] <legend2440> MrBashir: screens and graphics is  gksu displayconfig-gtk
[22:49] <j_> takyoji: beryl is now defunct
[22:49] <emma> Bizzeh: this is not quite related but since you are talking about Ubuntu and hooking up your TV, you might also want to look into mythbuntu
[22:49] <takyoji> ahh
[22:49] <MrBashir> legend2440: Ok, thanks,ill try that
[22:49] <Bizzeh> emma: i would be looking to hook my tv into ubuntu as simply a 2nd monitor, not a media viewer
[22:49] <j_> takyoji: the best config tool I've found for compiz is ccsm
[22:49] <emma> Bizzeh: sure.
[22:49] <MrObvious> Bizzeh: My resolution is 80 pixels bigg
[22:50] <takyoji> j_: ahh k, thanks
[22:50] <docta_v> is there a tool to check for weak ssl certificates
[22:50] <j_> takyoji: anytime
[22:50] <jrib> ariqs: are you sure you aren't affected by the bug I linked yesterday?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent suggests you can use the martian_modem driver as an alternative
[22:50] <docta_v> that is, not ssh keys but ssl certs for apache
[22:50] <MrObvious> Bizzeh: Err 80 pixels bigger than 1080P.;
[22:50] <jAk> Anybody know OR is it possible to get outlook 2007 on ubuntu using either Wine or crossover?
[22:50] <l2s> odd-rationale your way worked to mount it under the /media/drivename
[22:50] <psykroll> will ubuntu ever be user-friendly? I don't have time to learn how the commands work. I just need help.
[22:50] <MrObvious> jAk: Why?
[22:50] <docta_v> jAk: wine/crossover definitely works with outlook
[22:50] <suriro> ariqs: that package is for i386 kernels. It wont work on i686 kernel
[22:50] <docta_v> i don't know about 2007 though
[22:50] <docta_v> check the crossover office website
[22:50] <Bizzeh> psykroll: what are you on about, there is no need to know pretty much, any commands at all
[22:50] <danbhfive> !appdb > jAk
[22:50] <j_> psykroll: what do you need help with?
[22:50] <MrObvious> psykroll: I think most of the stuff can be done through the GUI from the system menu.
[22:50] <Nevermind> testasdg
[22:50] <Bizzeh> unless your customising in someway
[22:51] <robg_> psykroll: the nice thing about Ubuntu is that you do not really have to know the commands.
[22:51] <Nevermind> 0_o last message was lost.. hm
[22:51] <amenado> psykroll-> are you willing to pay cold cash?
[22:51] <Nevermind> hi guys
[22:51] <jAk> MrObvious : Work related quesion, was asked the question.. ;)
[22:51] <MrObvious> psykroll: The help here is so wonderful you will learn fine and eventually love CLI.
[22:51] <Broadcom> !hi | Nevermind
[22:51] <MrObvious> jAk: It's probably possible.
[22:51] <Nevermind> have a problev - can some1 help? )
[22:51] <Nevermind> problem* )
[22:51] <Broadcom> !anyone | Nevermind
[22:51] <MrBashir> legend2440: Any idea why they removed it from the usual place?
[22:51] <MrObvious> jAk: Is it for e-mail or becacuse of Exchange?
[22:51] <emma> Nevermind: It's possible. The best course of action is to ask your question and see if someone has any ideas.
[22:51] <j_> although I like MrObviouses enthusiasm, you should hopefully never really have to learn the CLI... that's the point of ubuntu..
[22:51] <Bizzeh> thing is, the option to use the commands is there... so ubuntu suites me perfectly, im more of a gentoo user, but im to lazy to use commands now... but when i really want them, they are there
[22:52] <psykroll> amenado: I thought ubuntu meant community
[22:52] <Acorn> why when using the ubuntu livecd am i limited to 800*600 screen resolution?
[22:52] <zon> !lol > zon
[22:52] <j_> it literally means "I am who I am because of all of you"
[22:52] <jAk> http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/03/office-2007-on-linux-with-wine-install.html < i found this but outlook 07 doesn't load, LOL
[22:52] <MrObvious> Bizzeh: lol
[22:52] <amenado> psykroll-> and it meant your participation in learning
[22:52] <l2s> one other question after i gparted a disk to ext3 it is showing this: dev/sdb1               1       60802   488386583+  ee  EFI GPT
[22:52] <j_> that's the most direct translation of ubuntu
[22:52] <Bizzeh> Acorn: your gfx isnt supported properly in the livecd
[22:52] <MrObvious> Acorn: The video driver might not be set up right.
[22:52] <l2s> what is ee EFI GPT rather than the normal 83 linux
[22:53] <legend2440> MrBashir: no in order to see launcher in menu i had to edit menus and enable it. it is under Other on mine
[22:53] <psykroll> so I'm limited to windows until I have the time to become a programmer
[22:53] <psykroll> nice
[22:53] <ariqs> suriro: that may very well be my problem.
[22:53] <Nevermind> ok... so. SOUND problems. sound card - Terratek Aurion 7.1. have sound in Totem player(deafult for 8.04) and pidgin. anywhere else... just silence )
[22:53] <Acorn> how do i find out how to set up my gfx?
[22:53] <maxxism> this monitor hates ubuntu.  I just did a reinstall to try to get the monitor to do 1280x1024,  ubuntu still doesnt see anything bigger than 1280x800, winblows does 1280x1024.  I tried manually adding 1280x1024 to xorg.conf already too.
[22:53] <j_> psykroll: not at all sir. nearly everything in ubuntu has a GUI
[22:53] <MrBashir> legend2440: Ah, ok thanks again :)
[22:53] <emma> I am not sure what just happened there.
[22:53] <j_> psykroll: ubuntu is AIMED at non-technical people :)