[14:53] <tgpraveen> could some one take a look at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596601
[14:53] <tgpraveen> mac_v: ^^?
[15:43] <darkmatter> yes, please. give us all huge bloated icons that draw our attention to the panel when it needs to be elsewhere :)
[15:50] <tgpraveen> darkmatter: that bug is not about  the panel. and with other themes it looks ok. not bloated
[15:52] <darkmatter> ahh... so stretching the icon to the size of the panel is a 'good' thing.. gotcha.
[16:07] <mac_v> tgpraveen: dont know...
[16:08] <mac_v> tgpraveen: i dont see how it is a theme problem either... its a 16px icon
[16:08] <tgpraveen> try with clearlooks theme
[16:08] <tgpraveen> it looks ok.
[16:08] <mac_v> tgpraveen: so its a gtk theme problem?
[16:09] <darkmatter> thats probably a hack in clearlooks to compensate for the crappy code revisions in na-tray
[16:09] <darkmatter> because the notification area is crap now
[16:11] <mac_v> tgpraveen: bleh... dump totem and use vlc ;)
[16:15] <tgpraveen> mac_v: I use vlc too as a backup. but still gotta love GNOMEish simplicity
[16:15] <mac_v> tgpraveen: hmm , odd... totem uses the larger icons when using gnome theme but for humanity it uses the 16px icon :/
[16:16] <darkmatter> mac_v: and it *is* a tray issue regardless of dev excuses. there are plenty of apps that you can use to prove it. including some of the default gnome tray-huggers. I know, because I intentionally look for interface issues. and 3 icons taking up 100pixels of panel real estate on a 32 pixel panel *is* a gnome problem. not a theme problem
[16:16] <darkmatter> as long as the index.theme has the directories/sizes defined and the symlinks in place it is not a theme issue
[16:17] <_vish> darkmatter: we have all that right ... but totem is crazy :p
[16:17] <darkmatter> yes. yes it is
[16:20] <darkmatter> _vish: even more crazy is having to symlink app pixmaps for the tray because they pack sane sizes, but if you're 'in between' na-tray upscales to the next pixel size. have you ever seen an unscaled 48x78 icon on a 32 pixel panel? it ain't pretty :P
[16:20] <darkmatter> 48x48*
[16:21] <_vish> hehe...
[16:21] <_vish> darkmatter: well now that canonical is trying to fix the tray , it uses only 16px icons so i guess that it is kinda solved ;)
[16:22] <darkmatter> it's a gnome issue. I can reproduce it in the gnome theme by pulling out the 32x32 status icons and rebuilding the cache. scale 'down' my lovelies
[16:22] <_vish> but it will *only* use 16px , so if the panel is larger too it will only be 16px icons ;)
[16:23] <darkmatter> _vish: ahhh.. my long standing dream that I've bitched about endlessly is coming topass?
[16:23] <_vish> darkmatter: http://gould.cx/ted/blog/Having_a_tidy_systray
[16:24] <darkmatter> _vish: yes. it should be 16x16. no scaling up to fit the panel (I dun think anyone uses 120pix panels anymore. do they? ;o). that and please. 6 pix padding between them. split as clickable area between adjacent icons
[16:25] <darkmatter> becaus e otherwise the icons are crammed, and wasting usable space is sinful
[16:26] <_vish> darkmatter: yeah , actually in humanity all the tray icons are actually only 16px icons in 22/24px  ... all the padding is what make it more clean ;)
[16:26] <tgpraveen> darkmatter: then can you please reopen that bug with the relevant commetns as you seem to be better informed on this issue
[16:26] <darkmatter> :O padding!  I'm stealing them for my geeko! \o/
[18:20] <nigel_nb> hi, any of the artwork team around? I'm looking for some help :)
[18:21] <nigel_nb> after the UDS-L, there is a plan to have Ubuntu User Days with topics aimed towards users (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam).  Can anyone from the artwork team help us with a logo?
[18:30] <thorwil> hi nigel_nb
[18:30] <nigel_nb> hi thorwil :)
[18:31] <thorwil> nigel_nb: these last days of the year are likely not a good time to ask for something like that
[18:31] <nigel_nb> thorwil: ohhh
[18:31] <thorwil> nigel_nb: but now or later, i suggest you bring it up on the art mailing list
[18:31] <nigel_nb> thorwil: will do, thanks :)
[18:32] <thorwil> you can reach many more people that way
[18:32] <thorwil> nigel_nb: np
[18:33] <nigel_nb> do I need to join before I post?
[18:33] <thorwil> nigel_nb: i think yes. you should for questions, anyway
[18:34] <thorwil> nigel_nb: the list is rather low volume
[18:34] <nigel_nb> joined already, a few 100 mails a day dont make much difference anyway
[18:34] <nigel_nb> after bug squad, I'm game for anything
[18:34] <nigel_nb> ;)
[18:34] <thorwil> heh
[19:17] <thorwil> ouch ouch!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=UbuntuFreeCultureShowcaseLogo_white_100.png
[23:16] <kwwii> ouch indeed


[11:07] <schopin> @pilot in
[15:52] <schopin> @pilot out
[19:59] <vpa1977> Hi, I have a question about Debian merge. We have openjdk-lts package in Ubuntu which is openjdk-11 in Debian.
[19:59] <vpa1977> How should i go about merging it? Since there is no debian/sid branch, should I just pull latest Debian changes, make a branch and point it the MP to ubuntu/devel? Thank you!!!!
[21:14] <vpa1977> Hi, I am looking for review and sponsorship of https://code.launchpad.net/~vpa1977/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-21/+git/openjdk-21/+merge/444680. Merge of openjdk-21 preview from Debian.
[21:14] <vpa1977> Thank you!!!!
[21:34] <rbasak> vpa1977: you could add both git-ubuntu repositories as remotes. Then you'd have a debian/sid branch. That's only one option though.
[21:34] <rbasak> Ultimately what matters is that the final upload is what sponsors would expect. I'm not sure what that is though - why are the source packages named differently?
[21:36] <vpa1977> I think this some kind of historical thing
[21:37] <vpa1977> But when I push and open MP, I open md against debian/sid branch in ubuntu repostitory
[21:37] <vpa1977> *repository. I can not push to it so I will not have debian/sid
[21:51] <rbasak> we only use debian/sid as the MP target for convenience to make the preview diff useful. I think the important thing is to get the final answer right, and the next important thing is to make it reviewable by providing the rich history breakdowns.
[21:51] <rbasak> Given the complication I think it's fine if the MP target is wrong, with an explanation.
[21:51] <rbasak> "wrong"
[22:05] <vpa1977> rbasak: Thank you!!!!!!
[22:43] <vorlon> bryceh: thanks for the review; I don't know if you'll have been notified, but I replied and pushed various fixes
[22:47] <bryceh> vorlon, ah great, yeah I was just wondering about that :-)


[00:10] <Samizdatguy> I think I'm having some kernel issues. Random key will stick from time to time, and music will randomly drop out for a couple seconds every so often.
[00:10] <Samizdatguy> I'm running 13.10 beta, but have had this issue before on earlier builds.
[00:32] <leo_33>  in your opinion why would a headhunter continue sending you info about a job after a  job interview?
[00:34] <genii> leo_33: It's not really a Kubuntu support question, but my first inclination is to say the headhunter is an automated mass mailing system that doesn't know you went to the interview.
[00:35] <leo_33> sorry i know its not a kubuntu support. not it wasnt mass mail, the email was tailored to the job and to me.
[00:38] <Samizdatguy> leo_33: He really wants you to take the job so he gets paid.
[00:38] <genii> leo_33: They probably have zero contact with the place you were interviewed and don't know you went already. Or else the guy is horribly organized if you or the company told him your interview date.
[00:39] <leo_33> i think its waht Samizdatguy said.
[00:39] <leo_33> do these guys talk to people within the company?
[00:40] <Samizdatguy> Got me dude. Try #head-hunters
[00:40] <leo_33> nobody there
[00:40] <Samizdatguy> Though that might be a Herbie Hancock discussion channel.
[00:41] <genii> leo_33: Most headhunters don't have any contact with the companies they send you to. All they do is cull the job openings from newspapers, online ads, etc and try to find one which suits your qualifications so you can go there.
[00:41] <Samizdatguy> Full service here in #kubuntu
[00:41] <Samizdatguy> Except for my kernel question.
[00:42] <genii> Samizdatguy: Well, it's quiet and no support issues currently on the table.
[00:42]  * Samizdatguy clears his throat.
[00:42] <genii> Samizdatguy: Might want to try #ubuntu+1 since you're running 13.10
[00:42] <Samizdatguy> Whats the +1 all about?
[00:42] <genii> ( it's the same channel whether Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc)
[00:43] <Samizdatguy> Okay, will do.
[00:43] <Samizdatguy> Thanks.
[00:43] <genii> Samizdatguy: It's the channel for support on the upcoming not-yet-in-release-and-supported *buntu eg: Saucy
[00:44] <Samizdatguy> Yeah, it's an old issue, though.
[00:44] <jpbouza> hi! I'm trying to install 13.04 in an AMD phenom machine.... I've tried with all the boot parameters, nomodeset, no acpi, etc... there no way to avoid the blank screen when hitting the start kubuntu.... is there any other work around?
[00:45] <jpbouza> 10.04 installer works fine
[01:02] <chachan> jpbouza, did you try 13.10?
[01:03] <jpbouza> hi chachan , no I didn't, is there any fix about this?
[01:03] <jpbouza> cause I'm also trying with the 12.04 dvd and I get the same problem
[01:03] <chachan> jpbouza, I have no idea but you can test it
[01:03] <jpbouza> hehe, ok
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:31] <excognac> Hi all. Why my grub boot menu keys has suddenly changed from regular arrow keys to "p" for previous, "n" for next and "e" for last? I didn't change anything there. this a laptop with klubuntu 12.04 and grub 1.99
[08:34] <excognac> any ideas how to change it back?
[08:36] <lordievader> excognac: Do you also get this with an external keyboard?
[08:37] <lordievader> !pm
[08:37] <lordievader> !pm| excognac
[08:37] <lordievader> excognac: Would be a good test, it will tell you if the keyboard is at fault or grub.
[08:38] <excognac> lordievader: thanks. is there anything i an do without external keyboard
[08:38] <excognac> ?
[08:39] <lordievader> You can try updating grub, but I'm not sure if that will help: sudo update-grub
[08:40] <excognac> lordievader: otherwise my keyboard functions properly except that if i boot win7 i can't type my password in. does this help?
[08:40] <excognac> i just updated grub, no change
[08:40] <lordievader> Hmm, that kind of sounds like a keyboard error.
[08:41] <excognac> is there any test i can run for it to ensure?
[08:42] <excognac> in other words how is it possible that grub and win has problems with the keyboard but a loaded kubuntu not at all?
[08:43] <lordievader> The linux kernel probably loads it's own driver. Google your laptop model to see if there are more issues with the keyboard.
[08:54] <excognac> lordievader: thanks for your help, i'll try to get an external keyboard asap
[08:56] <lordievader> Good luck!
[09:13] <vurado> hi! anyone know how to set kubuntu to 1920x1080 res inside virtual box?
[11:53] <Canid> Hello - - I have what should be an easy problem
[11:53] <Canid> I am trying to downgrade a program
[11:53] <Canid> I tried using Muon
[11:54] <Canid> but the "force Version" button will not work
[11:54] <Canid> so I want to do it from the terminal
[11:54] <lordievader> Canid: Is the earlier version available in the repo?
[11:54] <Canid> Yes
[11:55] <Canid> it is Thunderbird I'm trying to downgrade
[11:55] <Canid> there's a 24 and a 17.05
[11:55] <Canid> but I can't find the actual name of the package to use with sudo apt-get install
[11:55] <lordievader> Canid: Downgrading/pinning I usually do through Synaptic. Not sure how to do so with apt.
[11:56] <Canid> Really? It's easier with synaptic?
[11:56] <Canid> I don't mind uninstalling it first
[11:56] <Canid> I did that yesterday, when I was trying to get muon to work
[11:57] <Canid> I was under the impressing I could just install it fresh with sudo apt-get install and specify the package I wanted
[11:58] <Canid> but I get this:
[11:58] <Canid> E: Unable to locate package thunderbird 17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1
[11:58] <Canid> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'thunderbird 17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1'
[11:58] <Canid> (I've tried a few different combos, because the name I expected to work didn't
[11:59] <Canid> I tried " apt-cache showpkg "thunderbird" "
[12:00] <Canid> but that lists all the thunderbird addons from the repository
[12:00] <Canid> and I can't see one that looks like JUST thunderbird
[12:01] <Canid> other than "17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1 - mail-reader"
[12:01] <Canid> which it can't find
[12:02] <Canid> E: Unable to locate package 17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1 - mail-reader
[12:02] <Canid> E: Couldn't find any package by regex '17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1 - mail-reader'
[12:04] <lordievader> Canid: This might help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[12:08] <Canid> I'm not sure that helps
[12:08] <Canid> I might use it to "pin" the version before I even install it
[12:09] <Canid> but just to do that, I'd still need to know the proper name to use
[12:09] <lordievader> Canid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[12:15] <Canid> okay... it's not finding a version 17 , 17.0 or 17.05
[12:16] <Canid> so maybe I'm wrong about a previous version being there
[12:16] <Canid> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird
[12:16] <Canid> shows              1:24.0+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>                                        updates, security           (main)
[12:17] <Canid> which is version 24
[12:17] <Canid> and 17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1                                        release           (main)
[12:17] <Canid> which I thought was version 17
[12:17] <Canid> they have different release dates
[12:17] <lordievader> Canid: You can check with "apt-cache policy thunderbird"
[12:19] <Canid> for version table it shows
[12:20] <Canid>  *** 1:24.0+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 0
[12:20] <Canid>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates/main amd64 Packages
[12:20] <Canid>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security/main amd64 Packages
[12:20] <Canid>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:20] <Canid>      17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1 0
[12:20] <Canid>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[12:20] <FloodBotK1> Canid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <Canid> (ah, that's where paste-bin is)
[12:20] <Canid> (I was trying to find it)
[12:21] <lordievader> !paste
[12:21] <Canid> I just want to install the 17.0.5 build without the 1:24.0 update
[12:22] <lordievader> Canid: This doesn't work: apt-get install thunderbird=17.0.5+build1-0ubuntu1
[12:23] <Canid> Yes, that did it!
[12:23] <Canid> Thank-you!
[12:27] <lordievader> No problem.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:46] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:57] <Mind-less> Strider
[13:09] <Gargoyle1976> Just had to change out my video card.  Video memory went bad.  New video card fine, but mouse is very jerky.  Any thoughts?
[13:09] <excognac> lordievader: hi again, I'm the guy with the keyboard issue: i tried it with external usb keyboard, it gives the exact same result: I can't use arrow keys in grub boot menu and can't type my pwd in for win.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Gargoyle1976, which video card ?
[13:17] <lordievader> excognac: Huh, well that is annoying. I'm kind of at a loss for a solution. Perhaps someone else knows?
[13:20] <ovidiu-florin> please add to the community page of kubuntu.org the link to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RomanianTeam
[13:21] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell ^
[13:21] <excognac> lordievader: still thanks a lot, Problem is the next: i have a laptop with kubuntu 12.04 grub 1.99 multiboot. upon having the bootmenu I canát use arrow keys to select OS but "p" and "n" keys move the highlight, "e" jumps to last option, win7. Win7 boots, then keyboard doesn't work. External keyboard gives the same result
[13:21] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: or directly to the ro.kubuntu.org site
[13:22] <excognac> grub has been updated recently, no malwares found.
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> oh, sorry, wrong channel
[15:06] <Gargoyle1976> Had a nVidia 9600gt.  got a gt610 to replace it.
[15:07] <Gargoyle1976> BluesKaj, Had a nVidia 9600gt. got a gt610 to replace it.
[15:31] <Gargoyle1976> Just had to change out my video card. Video memory went bad. New video card fine, but mouse is very jerky. Any thoughts?
[15:31] <Gargoyle1976> Had a nVidia 9600gt. got a gt610 to replace it.
[15:31] <Gargoyle1976> Mouse seems slow to react
[16:01] <rosco_y> Does anyone know why my HP Device Manager - Plug-in installer reinstalls the Plug-in every time I restart to my computer?
[16:11] <Gargoyle1976> ne1?
[16:14] <Gargoyle1976> any help on a unresponsive mouse?
[16:14] <Gargoyle1976> everything else seems fine
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Gargoyle1976: what release of Kubuntu?
[17:46] <miguel____> hi
[17:46] <miguel____> LWKADMLCDC
[17:59] <Gargoyle1976> Sry for delay...13.04
[17:59] <Gargoyle1976> shdeslayer: Sry for delay...13.04
[17:59] <Gargoyle1976> shadeslayer: Sry for delay...13.04
[18:31] <calcmandan> LOL for gnome disabling middle click paste.
[18:37] <BluesKaj> calcmandan:  ask in #ubuntu
[18:52] <Gargoyle1976> shadeslayer: put a ps2 mouse on and the jerky mouse stopped....usb driver?
[19:37] <arne_> hi zoiss
[20:20] <grdn> hi
[20:23] <grdn> hi i'm new to this, can somebody help me, "how to connect to another irc" !?
[20:23] <sithlord48> file
[20:23] <grdn> file?
[20:23] <sithlord48> configure networks..
[20:23] <Pici> Depends on your IRC client of course.
[20:23] <grdn> im using konversation
[20:24] <grdn> and wanna connect to "#5on5.css" for example
[20:24] <sithlord48> oh well i was assuming quassel since its the kubuntu default. for konversataion check settings.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> grdn:  depends on which irc server #5on5.css. is listed on
[20:26] <BluesKaj> sithlord48:  that's a default that i fail to understand
[20:26] <grdn> in the internet i found "irc.lc/quakenet/5on5.css/" but i think thats the "lifechat" address
[20:27] <sithlord48> BluesKaj:  why you don't like quassel?  or because its not the kde defalut?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> quassel part of that remote server metality that KDE seems to have acquired over the last few yrs , but not all of us use remote servers
[20:27] <BluesKaj> mentality
[20:28] <grdn> so the problem is, what do i have to put in at F2 ->serverlist "server" ???
[20:28] <grdn> what address and which port do i need
[20:29] <sithlord48> grdn that depends on teh irc server.. you need the address.
[20:29] <grdn> for example for the quakenet 5on5.css channel
[20:29] <grdn> and where can i find that address?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> konversation is an easy to use and effective irc client , and why it's replaced by something as clunky and ugly as quassel is beyond me.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> that's my rant for today:)
[20:30] <sithlord48> https://www.quakenet.org/servers
[20:30] <sithlord48> BluesKaj:  but i like quassel.. althought i =ve not used konversation in a long time..
[20:31] <BluesKaj> sithlord48:  well to each his own , i certainly won't use qussel unless i absolutely have to.
[20:32] <sithlord48> BluesKaj:  ill have to install konverstion check it out its been a long time like kde 3.0 days. lol
[20:33] <BluesKaj> really sithlord48 , konversation hasn't really chnged very much, sasl is available , maybe some scripting , but I don't pay much attn to that stuff
[20:34] <sithlord48> BluesKaj: my irc needs are very basic i just sign on here help and maybe a few other rooms.
[20:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , same here , sithlord48
[20:57] <harolddong> are metacontacts enabled in the kubuntu builds of kde-telepathy 0.6.80? I updated but none of my contacts are grouped as metacontacts and I see no way to manually group them. What am I missing?
[22:02] <kristal> I'm having a little panic attack - microsoft owns nokia, nokia owns Qt...
[22:03] <kristal> Ohh it changes hands from Nokia to digia and Qt Project, phew.
[22:11] <LukX84> Hi I'am new user Kubuntu...
[22:20] <bootkiller> kristal, http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php
[22:22] <Roey> hey all
[22:23] <Roey> hey why does Firefox not respect the shortcut keys for Panorama?  And even when I choose "Tab Groups" explicitly, nothing happens.  What's mis-set here??
[23:47] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit


 Is that enough or is there something else that needs to be done ?
[04:02] <G__81> any one here?
[04:02] <bazhang> G__81, log out once it is installed then login choosing the kde desktop
[04:03] <G__81> bazhang, ok thanks but as far as the packages are concerned just installing kubuntu-desktop would bring everything right ?
[04:04] <bazhang> G__81, yes, a large number of packages; it's a meta-package
[04:04] <bazhang> !meta-package
[04:04] <G__81> oh ok thanks a lot. I hope i am satisfied with Ubuntu's KDE. I had problems with Fedora's 16 KDE
[04:43] <G__81> i am thoroughly impressed with Kubuntu 11.10 installed it on top of xubuntu and i should say this is the best KDE distro i have ever used
[04:43] <G__81> its just truly awesome
[04:44] <shoopdewoop> hi all, im new to kubuntu and linux as a whole, hoping for a little guidance...
[04:44] <G__81> one small thing i would like to know is that when my system boots up, it still says Xubuntu. How do i change it
[04:45] <Sentynel> G__81: I think uninstalling plymouth-theme-xubuntu-* and making sure plymouth-theme-kubuntu-* are installed should do it
[04:46] <shoopdewoop> does anyone know how kubuntu performs on a netbook? looking for a good distro to put on a dell mini 1010
[04:47] <Sentynel> shoopdewoop: it's tolerable on my netbook (samsung nc10), but a bit laggy in places
[04:48] <shoopdewoop> is there a distro that isnt too laggy?
[04:48] <Sentynel> shoopdewoop: I use lubuntu mostly
[04:49] <shoopdewoop> i tried lubuntu once, but i couldnt get it running on my dell. dont remember why. perhaps i ought to try again
[04:53] <shoopdewoop> worked beautifully on my desktop though; might be worth giving another shot on the netbook
[04:58] <vlad__> Hey guys I was afk, Hi room
[04:59] <shoopdewoop> here goes, installing 11.10 onto usb key, then we'll see if it likes my netbook...
[05:00] <shoopdewoop> fun fact: this is my first time on IRC :P
[05:01] <vlad__> good luck shoop!
[05:02] <vlad__> Hope your lovingi the IRC, oldie but goodie
[05:03] <shoopdewoop> thanks! and yes, nice and simple, just the way i like it
[05:04] <shoopdewoop> usb key's done, off i go!
[05:17] <shoopdewoop> booted the 11.10 usb key, all i got was a terminal prompt. lovely.
[05:17] <lucho> Hola
[05:18] <shoopdewoop> aloha
[05:18] <lucho> Como hago para montar particiones ntfs en kubuntu 11.10 ya que la herramienta de conf. ntfs (ntfs.config) ya no funciona en esta distro?
[05:21] <shoopdewoop> anyone know why my 11.10 usb key is booting to a terminal prompt on my netbook (dell mini 1010)? this happened to me once before with lubuntu 11.10
[05:24] <lucho> Como hago para montar particiones ntfs en kubuntu 11.10 ya que la herramienta de conf. ntfs (ntfs.config) ya no funciona en esta distro?
[05:30] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: english?
[05:30] <lucho> ok,
[05:31] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: do you want to mount your ntfs drivers automatically on startup everytime?
[05:31] <lucho> how to mount automatically, my ntfs partitions on kubuntu 11.10
[05:31] <lucho> yes
[05:31] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: goto system settings
[05:32] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: then goto removable drives
[05:32] <lucho> LOL thanks a lot bro
[05:32] <lucho> ow emmm :$ how to unlok dkpg
[05:33] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: so you know what to do next?
[05:33] <lucho> yes :) but how to unlock my dpkg :( ?
[05:33] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: end any process named apt
[05:33] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: something like aptworker
[05:33] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: also end any process like dpkg
[05:34] <lucho> ok please wait
[05:34] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: ok
[05:34] <lucho> task manager on kubuntu?
[05:34] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: ya
[05:35] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: ctrl+esc
[05:36] <shoopdewoop> nyone know why my 11.10 usb key is booting to a terminal prompt on my netbook (dell mini 1010)? this happened to me once before with lubuntu 11.10
[05:37] <lucho> Thx a lot bro, now installing Guitar pro 6 I'm Musician :D
[05:38] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: nice, enjoy :)
[05:38] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: do you get any error messages?
[05:39] <shoopdewoop> i got one at the splash screen, but it went by too fast to catch what it said. then black screen and a terminal prompt
[05:40] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: do you get the boot menu?
[05:40] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: the one with boot options?
[05:41] <shoopdewoop> yes, i selected live from the boot menu and it started to boot up, then when it got to the blue kubuntu splash screen, it loaded for awhile, flashed an error, and brought me to the prompt
[05:43] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: can you select the nolapic option in the boot menu and then try booting?
[05:43] <shoopdewoop> i dont remember having that option in the menu
[05:44] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: it should me
[05:47] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: In the following picture you can see the menu called "other options" from there select the nolapic http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Boot-Menu.png
[05:47] <shoopdewoop> ahh alright thanks, ill try that
[05:49] <phoenix_firebrd> shoopdewoop: ok
[05:50] <lucho> :( how to execute guitar pro 6 for linux :( im using a 64bit os, (kubutu) and install kibraries etc... but, i try open gp6, no open :(
[05:53] <jmut> hi. got new SSD. what is best linux tool to use to create partition table for it...slice it etc
[05:53] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho:from where did you get the gp6?
[05:53] <lucho> official page
[05:56] <Guest75199> Sup guys, I have a quick question - I am using Kubuntu 9.1, and everytime I do 'sudo apt-get update' it seems to fail at some urls and whatnot, with 404 errors.  Anyone know how I can change my sources to properly update?  I believe this is what is keeping me from upgrading to Lucid.
[05:59] <Guest75199> http://pastebin.com/CQ6U8M18   This is the pastebin to error
[06:00] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Guest75199
[06:00] <bazhang> !9.10
[06:01] <Guest75199> So, does that mean I cannot update/upgrade?
[06:01] <Guest75199> The upgrade fails, I'm not certain why.
[06:01] <bazhang> Guest75199, did you check the link?
[06:01] <lucho> how to uninstall app on kubuntu 11.10
[06:05] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: hi
[06:05] <lucho> Hi phoenix :D
[06:05] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: you have the downloaded gp6 deb file?
[06:06] <Guest75199> Distribution upgrade was canceled with error 127
[06:06] <lucho> official page, but is nesesary uninstall it, moun fails :(
[06:06] <lucho> muon
[06:07] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: did you install it already?
[06:07] <lucho> and konsole show error by gp6
[06:07] <lucho> yes !
[06:07] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: what is the error?
[06:08] <lucho> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[06:08] <lucho>  guitarpro6:i386 : Depende de: libc6:i386 (>= 2.1.3) pero no va a instalarse
[06:08] <lucho>                    Depende de: libstdc++6:i386 pero no va a instalarse
[06:08] <lucho>                    Depende de: libasound2:i386 pero no va a instalarse
[06:08] <lucho>                    Depende de: libxml2:i386 pero no va a instalarse
[06:08] <lucho>                    Depende de: libxslt1.1:i386 pero no va a instalarse
[06:08] <FloodBotK1> lucho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: use pastebin
[06:09] <phoenix_firebrd> lucho: use paste.kde.org
[06:27] <lucho> dependecy error :(
[06:27] <lucho> conflict
[06:30] <lucho> kubuntu-es
[06:30] <lucho> #kubuntu-es
[07:00] <Num83rGuy> Kubuntu 12.04, new install, nVidia driver installs but refuses to run, nouveau is used instead, graphics card is 8600gt.
[07:01] <Num83rGuy> Restarting X brb.
[07:17] <Num83rGuy> xorg.conf looks right.
[07:42] <Num83rGuy> Sitll doesn't work.
[07:43] <Num83rGuy> This is the most hassle I have had with nvidia drivers.
[07:46] <szal> what do you expect?  12.04 isn't released yet, so proprietary software might not be adjusted yet
[07:47] <szal> other than that, the right channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[07:52] <Num83rGuy> Ah +1 gotchya
[08:04] <jameslord> hi all
[08:05] <jameslord> what is kdewallet?
[08:05] <Avihay> It's an encrypted password storage service
[08:06] <jameslord> Avihay dude, why i should type password to kdewallet every time i log into my system:( i hate that。。。
[08:14] <almoxarife> jameslord: you can bypass the password in kwallet by changing the password to blank
[08:15] <almoxarife> as in no password
[08:15] <jameslord> almoxarife dude, why there is password for kdewallet?
[08:15] <almoxarife> security
[08:15] <almoxarife> what else
[08:24] <Avihay> if iy's at startup, then it's probably your network manager or something trying to get a password from the wallet. web browsers (rekonq/chromium) also try to get in my wallet (though I don't use themwith it)
[09:32] <jmut> I have kubuntu usb installer. but it does not see my SSD drive..already formatted to ext4 and all
[09:33] <jmut> installer only sees my old hdd ....at the same time  partition manager that comes with the installer sees the drive...all seems fine
[09:34] <jmut> where might be the problem? I wan to tinstall fresh kubuntu on the ssd but it won't let me use it
[09:38] <vincenzo> ciao
[09:38] <vincenzo> link!
[12:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:58] <Daskreech> Morning BluesKaj
[13:00] <Daskreech> jameslord, kdewallet is a place to keep all your passwords behind one password. So instead of remembering dozens or hundreds of passwords you only need to remember one
[13:01] <Daskreech> jameslord, If you make that one password a blank password then you don't even need to remember that :) of course then anyone who uses your computer can easily get into everything
[13:02] <Daskreech> You can tell kdewallet to always remember for some instances and then it won't ask for the password at all for those applications
[13:02] <Daskreech> I presume that you have a password for something in your plasma desktop if it's asking at startup
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey Daskreech
[13:07] <Daskreech> Hi ho BluesKaj
[13:18] <navlelo> is anyone familiar with the phenomenon where plasma freezes in short intervals?
[13:27] <Daskreech> maybe?
[13:32] <AlexPH> hi
[13:45] <navlelo> Daskreech: it just freezes at random times, i really dont know what the source of the problem is
[13:46] <Daskreech> one second freezes or extended freeze ups?
[13:46] <navlelo> 10-20 seconds or so
[13:49] <navlelo> also seems like nothing goes through dbus when it hangs
[13:49] <navlelo> i guess thats a consequence of plasma being freezed, not the other way around
[13:51] <navlelo> i'm using the latest kde from the ppa btw, but this problem existed in 4.6 as well
[13:54] <Daskreech> navlelo, nothing goes through dbus?
[13:54] <Daskreech> you can't send a dbus command to none plasma processes?
[13:54] <navlelo> havent tried that
[13:55] <navlelo> i used dbus-monitor
[13:55] <navlelo> and when its hanging, nothing goes through
[13:55] <navlelo> after the hanging stops, a bunch of backed up commands goes through
[14:01] <alucard47> heeey
[14:04] <Daskreech> hi
[14:05] <Daskreech> navlelo, can you pastebin that backup flood?
[14:05] <navlelo> yep
[14:07] <navlelo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/868255/
[14:10] <navlelo> actually, there is not a complete halt with the dbus commands
[14:11] <navlelo> when i run dbus-monitor --session when its hanging i do get something
[14:11] <navlelo> ill paste it
[14:11] <Daskreech> you have a lot of kwin dbus calls in there :-/
[14:12] <navlelo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/868262/
[14:12] <navlelo> that contains some of the backed up commands as well
[14:12] <navlelo> so that is bad?
[14:13] <Daskreech> well that's not Plasma at all
[14:13] <Daskreech> so it may be that dbus is pausing and that pauses plasma
[14:14] <navlelo> hmmm
[14:14] <Daskreech> I presume that when plasma freezes you can still move around windows etc ?
[14:14] <navlelo> yeah, everything works fine
[14:14] <Daskreech> but plasma doesn't respond?
[14:14] <navlelo> nope
[14:15] <Daskreech> ppose
[14:15] <Daskreech> hrrm
[14:15] <navlelo> and every command i perform, like pressing a program in the task bar, does not happen until the freeze is over
[14:16] <navlelo> i reckon thats some of the backed up dbus commands
[14:18] <Daskreech> I would guess ask in #plasma if there is a way you can track down the reasons for the freezes
[14:20] <navlelo> all right, thank you for your help :)
[14:43] <niit> hi
[14:43] <niit> is there anyone??
[14:45] <Daskreech> niit: yes
[14:56] <tonyyy> hii
[15:01] <Daskreech> hi
[15:02]  * BluesKaj thinks the mobo on theother linuxbox is cooked ...frozen at the options page , did all remove battery and clear cmos "fixes" , but can't past the Compaq options page , even the bios won't load
[15:04] <Daskreech> how  did you clear CMOs?
[15:04] <Daskreech> jumpers?
[15:05] <tonyyy> in KDE is it possible to have two bars (top and bottom of the screen) like in gnome ?
[15:06] <Daskreech> tonyyy, yes
[15:06] <Daskreech> add a panel then setup as you like
[15:07] <Daskreech> it's also possible to have no panels
[15:09] <tonyyy> Daskreech, excellent, thank you :)
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Daskreech,  yes i cleared the cmos by removing the jumper and pressing the power button as described in various fixes
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Daskreech,  any other methods that come to mind ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> I tried the removal of all peripharals such as usb devices, etherent etc. Then removed the battery , and held the power button for a few secs.
[16:14] <shoopdewoop> anyone put 11.10 on a netbook? trying to boot it live on mine (dell mini 1010) but i keep getting an error at the splash screen (too fast to read) and then it brings me to a terminal prompt
[16:17] <DarthFrog> shoopdewoop:  You can see if there's anything relevant in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.log.0.  Also, try running the command 'dmesg | less'.
[16:18] <shoopdewoop> where are those directories? ive never really used linux before :P
[16:19] <DarthFrog> I'm not sure what you mean by that.  I gave you the paths.
[16:20] <DarthFrog> The path is /var/log and the files are messages and Xorg.log.0 in that directory.
[16:20] <shoopdewoop> is that assuming im running linux already? im running windows right now, and trying to boot 11.10 off a usb key
[16:21] <DarthFrog> Well, they don't exist if you're not running Linux, right? :-)
[16:21] <shoopdewoop> thats why i was confused :)
[16:22] <shoopdewoop> so now what...
[16:23] <DarthFrog> Boot into Linux and read those files, see if anything looks relevant.  Then come back here and ask.  Use pastebin to post clips from the files that you want to show us.
[16:23] <DarthFrog> !pastebin | shoopdewoop
[16:24] <shoopdewoop> i cant boot into linux, thats my problem
[16:24] <DarthFrog> In /var/log/Xorg.log.0, look for lines starting with "EE", which indicates an error.
[16:25] <DarthFrog> I thought you said you were booted into a terminal?  All that I told you can be run in the terminal.
[16:25] <shoopdewoop> ahhhhh okay
[16:26] <DarthFrog> To read the messages and Xorg.log.0 files, use the "less" utility.  At the terminal, type: cd /var/log
[16:26] <DarthFrog> Then "less messages" and "less  Xorg.log.0".  And "dmesg | less".
[16:27] <DarthFrog> In less, use "q" to quit.
[16:27] <shoopdewoop> okay thank you!
[16:27] <shoopdewoop> off i go!
[16:28] <Daskreech> crap :)
[16:28] <DarthFrog> Well, thank you for that.  Now clean up your mess, Daskreech.
[16:29] <DarthFrog> :-)
[16:29] <Daskreech> DarthFrog, Should have gotten him (assuming him) to login here from the terminal
[16:29] <Daskreech> Course there is no way for us to know if networking is up
[16:29] <DarthFrog> He'll be back.
[16:30] <DarthFrog> He probably has a problem with X.
[16:31] <Daskreech> it could have been an initramfs terminal which is I think much more likely
[16:31] <DarthFrog> Could be.  He's booting from a USB key.  I'd next get him to try with a proper CD.
[16:33] <DarthFrog> On the other hand, if it's a problem with live media, there's not much we can do, anyway.
[16:33] <DarthFrog> err, booting from live media. that is.
[16:33] <Daskreech> well there is the usual have you checked the checksum etc
[16:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , I think my other pc's mobo is kaput ...tried everything to get past the options page at boot
[16:34] <DarthFrog> Right.  Have him run the "Check this disk for errors" at the GRUB screen.
[16:40] <Daskreech> This is one of the larger barriers to Linux use
[16:40] <Daskreech> BluesKaj, Compaq is quite an old brand.
[16:40] <DarthFrog> that, and the fact that the kid next door isn't available for Linux support generally.
[16:42] <BluesKaj> yeah , Daskreech , I bought that pc on sale in jan 2006..was impressed by the 64bit arch
[16:42] <Daskreech> elvenfighter, I loved you in Wesnoth!
[16:42] <Daskreech> hi shoopdewoop . Guess it didn't boot?
[16:43] <shoopdewoop> so: /var/log did not have 'messages' or 'Xorg.log.0' files. also, 'dmesg | less' produced a lot of stuff i couldnt decipher, but i didnt find anything with 'EE'
[16:45] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, was the terminal one that asked you to login or did it just allow you to start typing command?
[16:47] <shoopdewoop> commands. i chose 'live' from the boot menu, and it started to boot, and after it got to the kubuntu splash screen (blue with loading dots) it loaded for awhile, flashed an error, then the screen went black and a terminal came up
[16:48] <shoopdewoop> the same thing happened awhile back when i tried a live boot of lubuntu 11.10 on the same machine
[16:49] <Daskreech> sounds like you have a terminal (ha ha it's Punny!) error
[16:49] <Daskreech> That's a emergency shell that you got into
[16:49] <shoopdewoop> lovely :P thoughts?
[16:50] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, welllll I would say the easiest thing to do would be to boot linux and jump in here to get help but lets eliminate some other issues first
[16:50] <Daskreech>  did you checksum the ISO?
[16:51] <shoopdewoop> excuse my noobishness, but i have no idea how to do that :P
[16:52] <Daskreech> !md5sum
[16:53] <shoopdewoop> okay thanks
[16:57] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop: If you need help poke me
[16:57] <Daskreech> Shoot thought I had enter on that a long time ago
[17:16] <elvenfighter> Anyone had issues while using Opera on 64-bit kubuntu ?
[18:18] <jameslord> Daskreech hi
[18:19] <Daskreech> hi
[18:45] <augustus> how to enable and activate compiz ?
[18:45] <jameslord> Daskreech everytime i open my kubuntu, i should first login kubuntu, then type password to kwallet, only after this, my wifi can automically connected to my router:(
[18:46] <Daskreech> !compiz
[18:46] <jameslord> Daskreech what i want is that, i don't need to login kubuntu gui and not need to type password to kwallet , and my wifi is connect without manually operation, is that possible?
[18:47] <Daskreech> jameslord, tell Kwin to always remember your password for wifi and tell kdm to autologin
[19:12] <augustus> Anyone who implemented compiz?
[19:17] <augustus> Nobody
[19:19] <BluesKaj> augustus,   compiz isn't really necessary
[19:19] <augustus> BluesKaj: Why is that? I want cool effects
[19:19] <augustus> I wanna try it on Kubuntu
[19:19] <BluesKaj> system settings>desktop effects
[19:20] <augustus> It doesn't work
[19:20] <augustus> Do I need to install some special video driver?
[19:20] <augustus> This is ATI card
[19:23] <Daskreech> augustus, Doesn't work means what?
[19:24] <augustus> Daskreech: I think I need to reconfig X server
[19:24] <augustus> Daskreech: Do you agree?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> augustus,  which ati card , lspci | grep VGA in the terminal
[19:28] <Daskreech> augustus, don't think so
[19:28] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, Hello :)
[19:29] <augustus> Daskreech: Hold on
[19:30] <shoopdewoop> hello again :) still no luck im afraid :/ this time i was able to read some of the error message on the splash screen. it said something about a firmware driver being missing, and to visit http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware. i went to the link, and the page doesnt exist...
[19:31] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, ok did you try the checksum on the ISO?
[19:32] <shoopdewoop> i havent been able to figure that out yet...
[19:32] <Daskreech> ok you are on windows I presume?
[19:32] <shoopdewoop> yes, xp
[19:33] <Daskreech> search for md5sum for windows
[19:33] <tonyyy> just a question, in KDE is there a software like Super-Copier on Windows ?
[19:33] <Daskreech> you should find a download for a md5sum.exe
[19:34] <tonyyy> a software a little bit more evolved than the usual copy manager
[19:34] <tonyyy> (i use gnome for the moment)
[19:37] <shoopdewoop> okay i got the .exe
[19:37] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, this is probably going to require the command prompt
[19:38] <shoopdewoop> okie dokie
[19:38] <Daskreech> tonyyy, What would you like it to do?
[19:39] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, The easiest way would be to copy the md5sum exe to C:\windows\system32
[19:39] <shoopdewoop> okay got it
[19:39] <Daskreech> then youcan just cd to the ISO and type md5sum name-of-kubuntu.iso
[19:40] <shoopdewoop> ohh alright got it
[19:41] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, you know how to check the checksum ?
[19:41] <tonyyy> DarkriftX, ability pause and resume copy, manage several copy in one windows
[19:41] <tonyyy> Daskreech, ability pause and resume copy, manage several copy in one windows
[19:42] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: no i do not
[19:44] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, ok When You run md5sum against a file it produces a long string
[19:44] <Daskreech> If anything as in anything at all changes in the file it will make a different string
[19:44] <Daskreech>  so what you do is run md5sum on your ISO file then you look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS to see if it matches the string there
[19:45] <Daskreech> that makes sure that the ISO you got is not corrupted
[19:45] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: okay I'll do that
[19:45] <Daskreech> tonyyy, You can pause and resume copies with the normal KDE copy dialog
[19:47] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: does the md5sum usually take awhile to run?
[19:48] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, Yep
[19:51] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: is the checksum you sent me the same as Kubuntu? because it says Ubuntu
[19:52] <Daskreech> Ahhh
[19:52] <Daskreech> No?
[19:52] <Daskreech> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[19:53] <Daskreech> Sorry :)
[19:53] <Daskreech> 1/2 asleep
[19:54] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: thanks! they do match up
[19:54] <Daskreech> great :)
[19:54] <Daskreech> when you boot the USB there is an option to check it there as well
[19:54] <Daskreech> Lets go with that's correct and try to figure out your issue
[19:55] <Daskreech> This is a laptop you are working from I presume?
[19:55] <mohsen> in libre office calc , i want to calculate diffrence between two time , what can i do?
[19:55] <Daskreech> mohsen, make the cells be formatted for time
[19:56] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: yes it is a netbook (Dell mini 1010)
[19:56] <Daskreech> >_<
[19:57] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: my thoughts exactly :P
[19:58] <Daskreech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell_Mini_10_.28Inspiron_1010.29
[19:59] <mohsen> it's o0k Daskreech . now another question. i have speed of an object , and the distance between A & B . i want calculate the time (in time format ) recieving . what can i do?
[20:00] <Daskreech> mohsen, ask in #physics ?
[20:00] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: Well that's just peachy :P
[20:01] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, isn't it? And Dell is one of the manufacturers who have support lines for Ubuntu as well
[20:01] <Daskreech> Looks like it's a kinda difficult struggle to get it installed on that machine
[20:03] <mohsen> Daskreech , does libre office have a channel?
[20:03] <Daskreech> #libreoffice
[20:03] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, That's your only machine?
[20:09] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: i have another but im looking to put linux on this one, not the other
[20:10] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, ok want to try work on it then? It's a little challenge :)
[20:10] <Daskreech> On the downside you'll probably be disappointed when you install linux on other computers
[20:13] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: i have to go right now, but i should be back on around 3.45 EST. i would like to work on it, yes! im up for a little challenge :) yeah i understand it wont be as amazing as on another machine but im willing to give it a shot
[20:14] <Daskreech> ok :)
[20:14] <Daskreech> shoopdewoop, can You type sudo lspci and pastebin that
[20:14] <Daskreech> Curses!!!
[20:41] <meduser> hello, how is everyone today?
[20:41] <meduser> looking for a little help if someone is willing to help
[20:43] <meduser> in windows 7 I used to use Dameon Lite for mounting and running a copy of Network + software. Any ideas how to do that in Kubutu?
[20:44] <meduser> *kubuntu
[20:44] <DarthFrog> What specifically are you trying to do?  i.e. what does that program do for you?
[20:45] <meduser> DarthFrog: I am using the software for learning, it's part of my University course. Daemon lite would mount the iso, and the software would be open
[20:46] <Daskreech> meduser, If you want to mount an ISO just make a directory and mount it
[20:46] <DarthFrog> Sorry, I mean what are you eventually trying to get?  What does the software in the ISO do?
[20:46] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: It's going to be a Windows program.
[20:47] <meduser> DarthFrog: it is a simulation software that is used when learning network wireing, connections, etc.
[20:47] <Daskreech> DarthFrog, Ah well you help with that I'm off to work
[20:47] <Daskreech> Vbox
[20:47] <DarthFrog> meduser:  What is the name of ISO file?
[20:47] <meduser> DarthFrog: Testout.iso
[20:49] <DarthFrog> meduser:  Type these commands at a terminal session (i.e. Konsole): "sudo -i" "mkdir /mnt/disk" "mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro Testout.iso /mnt/disk"
[20:49] <DarthFrog> Then type "exit".
[20:51] <DarthFrog> Use the file manager (Dolphin) to browse to /mnt/disk and find your program.  If the wine package is installed, clicking on the exe should (well, might) launch it.  If you have your fingers crossed and click your heels.
[20:52] <DarthFrog> If wine isn't installed, use the Muon Package Manager (in the System menu) and install it.
[20:53] <DarthFrog> You could also just use AcetoneISO to mount the ISO image.
[20:54] <DarthFrog> That should be available in Muon, too, I should think.
[20:56] <meduser> DarthFrog: ok, I have it mounted..checking things out..
[20:56] <meduser> DarthFrog: installing wine through terminal
[20:58] <DarthFrog> meduser: If the Windows program won't run under wine (WINE Is Not an Emulator), then install Virtualbox and install Windows in a virtual machine to run your program.
[20:59] <meduser> Ok, I already have Virtualbox and vmware installed, so that might just be quicker..lol
[21:00] <shoopdewoop> Daskreech: I'm back now :)
[21:00] <DarthFrog> shoopdewoop: He's left for work.
[21:00] <shoopdewoop> ahh rats
[21:01] <meduser> DarthFrog: so there is no program in Linux that is like Damean Lite?
[21:01] <ikonia> meduser: you don't need it you can mount iso images
[21:03] <DarthFrog> meduser:  Yes, acetoneiso.
[21:04] <meduser> DarthFrog: thanks, I'll try that too. Looking through the folders in the mounted image, there appears to be linux in the iso
[21:04] <DarthFrog> meduser:  Well then, perhaps you don't need to use wine.
[21:05] <meduser> DarthFrog: that would be cool...wine is almost finished installing, so I'll see soon enough
[21:06] <shoopdewoop> in terms of performance on a netbook, is kubuntu or lubuntu a better option?
[21:07] <DarthFrog> Lubuntu uses less resources.
[21:07] <DarthFrog> Kubuntu is more full-featured.
[21:07] <shoopdewoop> full-featured meaning what?
[21:07] <DarthFrog> Also, check out Xubuntu.
[21:08] <DarthFrog> !xubuntu
[21:09] <shoopdewoop> hmm alright ill check it out
[21:10] <DarthFrog> BTW, you can have all the various desktops installed at the same time and switch between them at will (by logging out of one and logging back in another).
[21:11] <meduser> DarthFrog: no, just errors right left and down the middle..going to try acetone
[21:11] <DarthFrog> And every desktop environment (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu) can run programs from the others.
[21:11] <DarthFrog> meduser: You don't need Acetone if you've got the ISO mounted.
[21:12] <shoopdewoop> so basically, the only difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and lubuntu is the desktop environment?
[21:13] <DarthFrog> Correct.
[21:13] <DarthFrog> And they can all be installed at the same time.
[21:14] <DarthFrog> sudo apt-get install <ubuntu|kubuntu|lubuntu|xubuntu>-desktop
[21:14] <DarthFrog> Pick one. :-)
[21:14] <shoopdewoop> okay. so what did you mean when you said that kubuntu was more full-featured? (sorry for all the questions, just eager to learn :P)
[21:15] <DarthFrog> shoopdewoop: I've not fully explored the other environments but XfCE (Xubuntu) for instance is not as integrated or as many tools as KDE (Kubuntu).
[21:15] <DarthFrog> I suggest you try them all out and see which one you like best.
[21:16] <shoopdewoop> okay; ill give them a try and see what happens!
[21:16] <shoopdewoop> thanks for the info
[21:19] <krise> I need some advaice here.Im running kubuntu 12.04. Im useing 2 desktops, one is regular desktop and other search and launch.With 11.04 there was no panels shown on search and launch desktop. How can i hidem now
[21:19] <DarthFrog> 12.04 suppor t is in #Ubuntu+1
[21:25] <markus_> moin
[21:31] <icedtea> is there a package to change gtk theme settings/fonts?
[22:40] <dwdz> hi! I installed KDE 4.8 from the backports PPA repo, and also gtk3-engines-oxygen. But the icons in pavucontrol for "lock channels" and "set as fallback" are not there, as in this nice screenshot from K 12.04 beta 1 http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/blog2/pavu.png What should I install/config to have those icons?
[22:45] <Riddell> dwdz: precise
[22:45] <dwdz> Riddell: yes
[22:50] <dwdz> Riddell: ah, you mean I should install precise? It is to much beta, hehe. What did you in precise to have there icons? Because I would like to try to fix that in my oneiric install.
[22:51] <Riddell> I'm afraid I don't know
[22:52] <dwdz> Riddell: ah, ok, thank you anyway!
[23:18] <george_> Hello. I'm running Kubuntu 11.10 on Dell Inspiron. After the 27/02/2012 update, strangely, system sounds don't work anymore. I do have sound with apps and browsers, and at system setting config and notifications, things are properly config.  However, when I press to kubuntu plays the sound for an event such as log in, it's muted. Any ideas?
[23:23] <Riddell> george_: it's a known bug
[23:24] <george_> Riddell: really? Is there any workaround or should we just wait a fix?
[23:25] <Riddell> george_: just wait
[23:26] <george_> Riddell: sight..... ok, thank you.


[11:28] <cjwatson> Could somebody have a look at python-libnacl and pymacaroons in xenial-proposed NEW for me, please?
[13:25] <Laney> bah, thought that worked for channel notices
[13:25] <Laney> stgraber: ^-
[13:51] <stgraber> Laney: looking
[13:51] <stgraber> Laney: why the +b though, just kicking it would have been enough
[13:51] <stgraber> Laney: now I've got to unban it and restart it again
[13:52] <Laney> I thought that +b was enough to mute it
[13:52] <Laney> should have removed it when that didn't work
[13:52] <Laney> soz
[13:52] <stgraber> nah, +b only applies at join time I think
[13:53] <Laney> I think it applies to real messages
[13:53] <Laney> at least on some ircds it does
[13:54] <Laney> testy mctestface
[13:55] <cyphermox> nah, b just means you can't get back in
[13:56] <cyphermox> you want +q
[13:56] <cyphermox> (to mute someone)
[14:01] <Laney> :)
[14:02] <Laney> Depends what other modes are in effect; by default +b stops you from speaking but it's overridden by various things
[14:02]  * Laney just wasted time checking
[17:06] <apw> stgraber, Laney ^
[17:09] <stgraber> gah
[17:10] <stgraber> it's lplib blowing up by the looks of it but I'm not sure why exactly
[17:11] <stgraber> restarted with added logging, so if it happens again I should be able to track exactly what's making it unhappy
[17:11] <stgraber> that bit of code hasn't changed in over a year, so my guess is that there's something slightly different on LP which is confusing it
[18:55] <slangasek> hmm. why was cgmanager demoted in yakkety?
[18:58]  * slangasek undoes the demotion
[19:04] <seb128> would be nice to have launchpad records of who is doing those
[19:07] <slangasek> certainly would
[19:08] <slangasek> would also be nice to know why a package is being demoted in contradiction with component-mismatches
[19:10] <slangasek> And did something change recently to put the ubuntu-touch seed in main?  It's good to have that fixed, but I remember there actually being quite a bit more delta of ubuntu-touch packages not yet in main than what I'm seeing now
[19:11] <seb128> there is probably quite a stack still
[19:12] <slangasek> seb128: not according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches
[19:12] <seb128> weird
[19:12] <slangasek> so I wonder if someone has batch-promoted things
[19:13] <seb128> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16735785/ is the list of packages used by the unity8 desktop session (not including recommends) that needs to be promoted
[19:13] <slangasek> hmm
[19:13] <seb128> the touch seed for sure needs a good part of those
[19:13] <seb128> that list is from friday
[19:18] <slangasek> ok, so I'm not sure why ubuntu-app-launch is in main at all then; unless c-m is just confused because it /is/ in main, and therefore thinking gir1.2-ubuntu-app-launch-2 is a reason to keep it in main?  (Because Extra-Include: gir1.2-*)
[19:28] <seb128> slangasek, I promoted u-a-l earlier because indicator-datetime depends on its lib and that was blocking the libical transition, and u-a-l was in main in wily
[19:28] <slangasek> ah
[19:29] <seb128> seems that has worked, libical migrated ;-)
[19:29] <seb128> though I'm not sure I understand your comment, is that on the demotion list?
[19:30] <slangasek> makes perfect sense, but somehow 'reverse-depends' and 'seeded-in-ubuntu' aren't telling me this... guess it's a timing issue
[19:30] <slangasek> seb128: no, the other binaries were in the promotion list and I couldn't figure out why
[19:30] <seb128> k
[19:30] <seb128> I just promoted the binary that was needed
[19:30] <slangasek> now it makes sense, but it's still an MIR issue because ubuntu-app-launch has new dependencies since the last time it was in main
[19:31] <seb128> oh :-/
[19:31] <seb128> which ones?
[19:31] <slangasek> ust, liburcu, libertine
[19:31] <seb128> sorry I overlooked that
[19:33] <slangasek> so this probably breaks image builds until it's resolved?
[19:33] <seb128> :-/
[19:34] <seb128> so britney just look at direct depends?
[19:34] <seb128> indicator-datetime was not installable because of libubuntu-app-launcher missing
[19:34] <seb128> but promoting it unblocked the transition even if it's un-installable in main
[19:35] <slangasek> yes, britney probably doesn't try to figure out recursive installability in main, just whether the direct deps are satisfied
[19:35] <slangasek> xnox: ^^ is that true?
[19:35] <seb128> well, those eventually needed to be MIRed, so we just need to push people to file those requests now
[19:35] <seb128> sorry about that
[19:37] <slangasek> ust, liburcu were previously in main also, so we can repromote
[19:37] <slangasek> libertine is new, I think
[19:37] <slangasek> I'll do the repromotion of ust,liburcu
[19:42] <seb128> thanks
[19:42] <seb128> tedg, ^ can you MIR the new depends?
[19:43] <tedg> Ah, sure, I may harass people to do them for me :-)
[19:47] <tedg> So reading the back log? Do I need a MIR for UAL?
[19:47] <tedg> It was next on my TODO, but if I can avoid that one, I'd be happy :-)
[19:52] <slangasek> tedg: only for libertine; with some urgency because the desktop image now has unsatisfiable-in-main deps
[19:55] <tedg> slangasek: Yeah, talking with ChrisTownsend about it now
[19:55] <tedg> slangasek: We have a question about splitting up a package between main and universe
[19:55] <tedg> slangasek: Libertine has a module it builds that has a lot of chroot deps that is a Suggests in the end for the main package.
[19:55] <tedg> slangasek: Can the source be in main and a binary in universe?
[19:56] <tedg> (one of the binaries)
[19:59] <doko> tedg, yes
[20:00] <ChrisTownsend> Ok, afaict, only python3-libertine-chroot has dependencies in universe all other binary packages have dependencies in main.
[20:04] <ChrisTownsend> doko: Do I make a note in the MIR for libertine that python3-libertine-chroot will stay in universe and all other binary packages are eligible for main?
[20:04] <slangasek> tedg, ChrisTownsend: no need to mention it at all; http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches already directs us to DTRT
[20:04] <slangasek> (and shows that python3-libertine-chroot is not a candidate for promotion)
[20:04] <ChrisTownsend> slangasek: Ah, cool, ok
[20:17] <ginggs> infinity (or anyone else), what can be done about LP: #1562480 ?  Can fpc powerpc be removed in xenial and yakkety?  it is not installable anyway
[20:18] <ChrisTownsend> slangasek: tedg: I believe this is what is needed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libertine/+bug/1588050
[20:19] <tedg> Thanks ChrisTownsend !
[20:19] <ChrisTownsend> tedg: You're welcome


[08:39] <nikolam> seems that catfish can't refresh updatedb search database,
[08:39] <nikolam> not even with sudo
[08:39] <nikolam> there is updatedb and updatedb.plocate
[08:44] <nikolam> so how to make catfish work?
[13:18] <Rich30> Good afternoon. I am not a specialist but I would like to use Xubuntu and I have uploaded the release from 04/2022 but do not know how to start it...May I have some help in this forum ?


[22:41] <Pendulum> jbicha: hey, are you around?
[22:41] <jbicha> Pendulum: hi
[22:42] <Pendulum> jbicha: you were the person who came into the Accessibility team channel to mention the high contrast theme (or maybe it was inverse contrast) problems, right?
[22:42] <jbicha> yes, I need to check if those bugs had been reported already and follow up on it
[22:44] <Pendulum> I was wondering if you'd be willing to write up your experience trying to install, etc. either for your own blog (if you have one) or for the Accessibility Team's blog?
[22:45] <Pendulum> We seem to have the best time getting people's awareness up when we have stories and the high contrast/inverse contrast themes aren't a place we get much feedback
[22:49] <jbicha> ok, feel free to ping me if I haven't posted about it on my blog by the end of the week
[22:49] <Pendulum> thank you so much!


[06:40] <bazhang> * [_2_Hershey] (~10700005@<IP_ADDRESS>): PircBot 1.5.0 Java IRC Bot -
[06:40] <bazhang> bot?
[06:42] <rww> who knows!
[06:42] <rww> (probably yes)
[06:43] <jussi> does it say anything?
[06:43] <rww> it said hi
[06:43] <rww> i said hi back but it hates me :(
[06:43] <jussi> err, rephrase, does it say anything it shouldnt say....?
[06:44] <bazhang> not yet
[06:51] <bazhang> * [Osama] (~alumno@183.Red-83-43-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net): Alumno
[06:51] <bazhang> at least 4 on that address
[07:00] <elky> junka might be involved too
 bazhang: yeah usually #debian dont answer any questions nfortunately
[08:29] <bazhang> right after he got three answers there
[08:31] <valorie> #debian on OFTC, or here on Freenode?
[08:31] <bazhang> here
[08:36] <valorie> perhaps they don't know that Debian has it's own irc server
[08:36] <valorie> and the chan here is not much used
[08:37] <bazhang> the chan here is huge and very active
[08:37] <bazhang> they were crossposting and had zero patience
[08:39] <valorie> I'm misinformed then
[08:40] <bazhang> zetheroo was doing the same
[08:53] <Pricey> Where's this?
[09:11] <DJones>  ubuntuser13> ubuntu 14.04 64bit  boot is slow  sometimes shows black screen for few seconds....... A few seconds counts as slow nowadays?
 may i ask questions even if use a different debian OS?
[09:40] <k1l> somebody can have an eye on him? i need to ride to the university
[09:42]  * DJones hands k1l the reins to his horse
[09:47] <DJones> They left without asking anything else
 tuakshay: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:14] <bazhang> and more nonsense
[16:14] <Pici> netyire supposedly sent me a gift card for flowers because I was complaining in -ot this morning.
[16:15] <bazhang> he's giving yoda advice in #u
[16:16] <Pici> blehhh
 hi everyone, I added too much salt to an opossum and it dried out :-( Is there anything I can do about it?
[16:16] <bazhang> wth
[16:19] <bazhang> I just PM'd netyire and asked him to stp
[16:19] <bazhang> +o
[16:19] <bazhang> he agreed
[16:20] <knome> don't they always agree when asked
[16:22] <bazhang> netyire has been around -ot at least for ages, and knows me fairly well
[17:12] <bazhang> heh esr on #x
 I can't find any direct download link for blackubuntu x86, the torrentsites are down =(
[17:41] <bazhang> is that real?
[17:42] <IdleOne> even if it is...
[18:35] <BeachBall> I'd like to report a stabbing
[18:36] <IdleOne> This channel is not for playing. How can I help you?
[18:36] <IdleOne> I guess I helped.
[18:59] <rww> bazhang: I ran across esr on #freenode once, when he got confused because I was talking about Firefox Extended Support Releases
[19:04] <Pici> I helped him with an Ubuntu issue in #ubuntu once
[21:35] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo
[21:37] <Jordan_U> !no !bootinfo is <reply> Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).
[21:37] <Jordan_U> !no bootinfo is <reply> Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).
[21:38] <knome> s/usefull/useful/
[21:42] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo ~= s/usefull/useful/
[21:42] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo
[23:50] <bazhang> just hard to imagine someone famous having config issues like that (ie esr)


[06:08] <Christoffer[m]> Thing @rjcole45 was actually looking for I think is like playonlinux, proton and virtualization like that.
[06:09] <Christoffer[m]> But virtualizing a whole desktop experience works too though.
[06:11] <Christoffer[m]> Thing @rjcole45 cpuld try looking intro is like playonlinux, proton and virtualization like that.
[06:11] <Christoffer[m]> <Christoffer[m] "Thing @rjcole45 cpuld try lookin"> Then they'd be able to use like photoshop as part of their ubuntu experience.
[06:12] <Christoffer[m]> Then they'd be able to use like photoshop as part of their ubuntu experience.
[06:12] <Christoffer[m]> For example.
[19:44] <mgrp[m]> Hi this is my first time using Ubuntu, I downloaded the software from online and now I am not sure how to install it. Can anyone help me?
[19:55] <OvenWerks> what is the name of the file you downloaded?
[19:55] <OvenWerks> What OS are you currently using?
[19:59] <OvenWerks> @mgrp: ^^^


[09:06] <mgz> morning!
[09:14] <jelmer> mgz!
[11:34] <quicksilver> it's a shame that bound offline commits *always* come through as a merge
[11:35] <quicksilver> if there have been no intervening commits to the bound branch they could just be pushed up.
[11:43] <jelmer> quicksilver: indeed
[11:44] <quicksilver> doesn't matter much but makes the log slightly fiddlier to read than perhaps it needs to me
[11:44] <quicksilver> and makes me choose between using "offline merge" as the commit message and forcing people to read the sub logs, or copying out the salient details.
[16:46] <delinquentme> Ok so I've got a project I've started locally ...  I want to *create* a remote repo which has this code with the  --no-trees option
[16:48] <mgz> delinquentme: what transports can you access remote with?
[16:48] <jelmer> delinquentme: you can just use the same command you would use locally
[16:49] <mgz> pretty much what jelmer said, unless you've only got http :)
[16:49] <mgz> jelmer: are you in our green and pleasant land yet?
[16:49] <delinquentme> jelmer, but bzr init-repo --no-trees /some/remote/server
[16:50] <delinquentme> how does bzr know whether im making a empty repo ... or whether i've got code that belongs in it?
[16:50] <jelmer> mgz: are you quoting "Jerusalem"?
[16:50] <mgz> delinquentme: right, but sftp://some/remote/server etc
[16:50] <mgz> always been a fan of blake.
[16:51] <jelmer> delinquentme: you would create the repo first, then push code into it
[16:51] <jelmer> mgz: :)
[16:52] <jelmer> mgz: I'm sitting in the train in Brussels, waiting for it to leave
[16:53] <mgz> ...and have been all day? :/
[16:53] <mgz> at least belgian trains are well connected I guess
[16:53] <mgz> or for the benefit of vila, in france, even the wifi would be on strike!
[16:54] <delinquentme> jelmer, does that automatically make the remote repo the parent?  IE will I have the expected   $ bzr push :parent and $ bzr pull :parent operations  ... that Im familiar with in projects that I've branched instead of initiated ?
[16:55] <jelmer> delinquentme: :parent is simply an alias setup in .bzr/branch/branch.conf, by default it gets set to the URL you cloned from
[16:56] <delinquentme> jelmer, so since im not cloning then I'll need to set that up right?
[16:56] <jelmer> delinquentme: well, if you want the local branch to consider the remote one as parent
[16:57] <jelmer> but, yes
[16:58] <delinquentme> jelmer, check!
[17:10] <delinquentme> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(file:///home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock): Permission denied: "/home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock/pncf1lmgu4.tmp": [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock/pncf1lmgu4.tmp'
[17:10] <delinquentme> this a permissions error?
[17:10] <delinquentme> i guess bzr needs write permissions?  .. and is there a bzr user?
[17:21] <delinquentme> jelmer, I think this is a really simple chmod issue no?
[23:15] <JPeterson> how do i disable tbzrcache?


[01:19] <maxb> Something weird seems to have happened to update-manager in karmic
[01:19] <maxb> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.124.8
[01:19] <maxb> The i386 build hasn't published
[01:20] <maxb> cprov: ^ Don't suppose you're around?
[01:26] <cprov> maxb: I am
[01:26] <wgrant> It doesn't look like it should have landed in NEW, although the queue page erroneously indicates that most of the binaries are NEW.
[01:26] <wgrant> It did for the previous upload as well.
[01:27] <maxb> Is something interestingly broken? :-)
[01:28] <cprov> the NEW binaries look weird -> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue?queue_state=2&queue_text=update
[01:29] <wgrant> cprov: Yes, but they do in the previous i386 binary upload too.
[01:29] <maxb> that sort of matches with the fact that aptitude is calling update-manager "Obsolete or locally created" here - so I guess their previous publishing has evaporated somehow
[01:30] <wgrant> Um.
[01:30] <wgrant> Indeed.
[01:30] <wgrant> Those binaries are superseded.
[01:30] <wgrant> Oh.
[01:30] <lifeless> \o/ epochs
[01:31] <wgrant> I think that's fine, actually.
[01:31] <wgrant> Oh.
[01:31] <wgrant> Crap.
[01:31] <wgrant> It's that bug again.
[01:31] <wgrant> cprov: Look how many BPPHs there are...
[01:31] <wgrant> There's a problem in the custom upload.
[01:32] <cprov> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/i386/update-manager-core/
[01:32] <wgrant> Yep.
[01:33] <wgrant> Next question... what is wrong with the dist-upgrader upload?
[01:34] <cprov> wgrant: it was already published on disk, during the p-a failures this morning
[01:35] <wgrant> cprov: Ah, so p-a was dying for reasons other than this upload?
[01:35] <cprov> I will wait the current publisher to finish and remove it from the archive.
[01:36] <cprov> wgrant: not really, p-a failed due to a open-fd leak.
[01:36] <lifeless> BjornT: around?
[01:36]  * lifeless is wondering whether we could delete bug status 'New'
[01:36] <lifeless> it seems unnecessary now
[01:36] <wgrant> cprov: Duh. Of course, I should have remembered that.
[01:37] <wgrant> lifeless: What do new bugs start as?
[01:37] <wgrant> (killing "Confirmed", sure. "New"? Not so much.)
[01:37] <lifeless> wgrant: they should start Incomplete ;)
[01:38] <lifeless> incomplete + last comment is not a triager-or-developer == triager-or-developer needs to look at it
[01:38] <wgrant> Mmm. Maybe.
[01:38] <cprov> wgrant: fixed, 0.128.4 published, the i386 bin will show up in the next pub cycle
[01:38] <lifeless> what workflow sets bugs *to* New
[01:39] <lifeless> and what workflow takes bugs out of New
[01:39] <lifeless> now, consider the workflow that takes bugs out of Incomplete.
[01:39] <lifeless> I assert that the last two are the same
[01:39] <lifeless> and the first is the empty set
[01:41] <wgrant> lifeless: The first set is not empty.
[01:41] <lifeless> The answer, AFAICT, is that lp doesn't use roleof(last-toucher) at the moment
[01:41] <wgrant> It is useful if the information has been provided, but it is unclear whether the bug should be Won't Fix or Triaged.
[01:41] <lifeless> wgrant: its used to reopen bugs in ubuntu (which the submitter just commenting and the bug auto-going-to-incomplete would be sufficient)
[01:42] <wgrant> If I fling the bug back to New, it's clear that it needs looking at.
[01:42] <lifeless> wgrant: by whom - you aren't routing it usefully.
[01:42] <wgrant> If I just comment on the Incomplete bug, it will disappear from the radar.
[01:42] <wgrant> Perhaps.
[01:42] <lifeless> if you can't make the asssesment and it needs a dev to do it, Triaged would be the right state.
[01:43] <lifeless> for Ubuntu at least, cause Ubuntu documents that value as 'ready for a dev to look at'
[02:28] <juju2143> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. <== ...
[02:30] <wgrant> juju2143: Which URL gave you that?
[02:30] <juju2143> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/ubuntu-bots/ubotufr/files
[02:30] <wgrant> Ah.
[02:31] <wgrant> Since it's bazaar.launchpad.net, just try again a couple of times. It will probably work.
[02:31] <juju2143> its dont work since someminutes, so...
[02:44] <juju2143> it's work now
[07:28] <daishadar> i've deleted a package from my ppa, and although i don't see it in my package listing anymore, it appears that files are still there (had an upload rejected recently because of it).  how long does it take for the files to disappear?
[07:31] <wgrant> daishadar: You cannot upload the same version again.
[07:31] <wgrant> daishadar: You must change the version number.
[07:32] <maxb> Does LP let me ask to receive copies of mails I send to a mailing list, like other mailman installations do?
[07:33] <wgrant> maxb: No -- you always get copies.
[07:33] <maxb> oh, so I do, they just took a loooooong time to appear
[07:33] <wgrant> (unless you use GMail, but, well, that's GMail)
[07:34] <maxb> and one of them still hasn't
[07:35] <wgrant> maxb: On one of my recent emails, there was 4 minutes of lag between the two forster hops, and 16 minutes inside forster before the first hop out of it.
[07:35] <wgrant> I presume one of those was waiting for moderation.
[07:35] <maxb> I'm talking days :-/
[07:36] <maxb> despite that fact it shows in mhonarc
[07:36] <wgrant> Huh.
[07:36] <wgrant> Nothing crazy like GMail in the equation?
[07:36] <wgrant> What does the trace say?
[07:36] <maxb> trace?
[07:37] <wgrant> maxb: The Received headers.
[07:37] <maxb> uh... well I haven't received it so it would be challenging to inspect the headers :-)
[07:38] <maxb> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg00561.html <-- I never got a copy of this
[07:38] <wgrant> maxb: You have at least one, though.
[07:38] <wgrant> Or were the others not delayed?
[07:39]  * wgrant twitches at the age of the user-agent...
[07:39] <maxb> apologies, looks like my email provider being pathetic and sitting on the mail for 3 days
[07:40] <daishadar> wgrant: really? even after i completely delete the package?
[07:40] <maxb> haha, that's spectacular. I sent it from Thunderbird in Karmic
[07:40] <daishadar> so i can never perform a rebuild?
[07:40] <wgrant> daishadar: It's clearly not the same version of the package, so why would it have the same version number?
[07:41] <daishadar> no, see, the package version changed, but the upstream source did not
[07:41] <daishadar> that's what's getting rejected
[07:41] <daishadar> the pristine source
[07:42] <wgrant> daishadar: Oh. Then the source is obviously not pristine.
[07:42] <wgrant> if it changes, you have violated the definition of the file.
[07:42] <daishadar> it changed because the gzip header changed
[07:42] <wgrant> why did it change?
[07:42] <daishadar> i redownloaded it
[07:42] <daishadar> because i accidentally deleted it
[07:43] <wgrant> Downloading it again will not change a single bit in the file, unless upstream uploaded a new tarball.
[07:43] <daishadar> but more fundamentally, i'm confused why files don't disappaer when i delete them
[07:43] <wgrant> daishadar: They do disappear.
[07:43] <wgrant> But you can't upload one with the same name.
[07:43] <daishadar> really? why is this file still here: https://launchpad.net/~nikil.mehta/+archive/emulators/+files/bsnes_0.049.orig.tar.gz
[07:43] <wgrant> Because that confuses clients, confuses index generators, makes no sense, and probably other things.
[07:44] <daishadar> it's not listed on my ppa anywhere
[07:44] <wgrant> daishadar: Because you requested that file.
[07:44] <wgrant> It is listed, if you look at superseded packages.
[07:44] <daishadar> ohhh
[07:44] <daishadar> how do i do that?
[07:44] <wgrant> On the PPA page, change the Published selector to Superseded or Any Status.
[07:44] <maxb> daishadar: Fundamentally, no versioned filename may ever be reused with different content, within an archive.
[07:44] <daishadar> it says there are 0 superseded packages
[07:45] <wgrant> daishadar: It shows me one...
[07:45] <daishadar> i think the gzip header changed somewhere in the packaged process after i downloaded it (via uscan or uupdate or something)
[07:45] <wgrant> https://edge.launchpad.net/~nikil.mehta/+archive/emulators/?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=any
[07:45] <wgrant> daishadar: Why was it being recompressed? Does upstream not provide a .tar.gz?
[07:46] <daishadar> it's a tar.bz2
[07:46] <wgrant> Anyway, the easy fix is to just grab the .orig.tar.gz from Launchpad and use that instead.
[07:46] <daishadar> uscan doesn't like that apparently
[07:46] <daishadar> or maybe launchpad needs a gz, i dunno
[07:46] <daishadar> i see
[07:46] <wgrant> Right, .tar.bz2 is not a widely supported original tarball format for Debian source packages just yet.
[07:47] <daishadar> sorry i was looking the 0 next to superseded in teh build status
[07:47] <daishadar> i see now
[07:47] <daishadar> i think i get it
[07:47] <daishadar> thanks a lot for your help!
[07:47] <wgrant> np
[07:48] <jml> g'night all
[07:58] <maxb> Could someone kick gold? It appears to be sitting permanently idle
[08:10]  * wgrant wonders if the term 'Enablement' was chosen to be deliberately ironic.
[08:11] <wgrant> maxb: Why is your mail client still spoofing an ancient Windows XP Thunderbird?
[08:12] <maxb> An excellent and somewhat amusing question
[08:12] <maxb> user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050923 Thunderbird/1.0.7");
[08:12] <wgrant> I see.
[08:12] <maxb> no idea whatsoever where that came from
[08:13] <wgrant> I was a bit surprised when I first saw "Windows NT 5.1", but I thought I'd let that slide. Then I saw the rest.
[08:31] <maxb> I wonder if that's possibly the first ever version of Thunderbird I used, and it somehow stuck
[09:45] <TNorris> When using a shared repo, do you have to be in each individual folder (branch) to push?
[10:47] <sluimers> Hi there, I'm trying to upload something to the ppa but I get a failed to build message. I'm pretty sure it's due to a dependency, but I do not know how to handle that. Can someone help me with this?
[10:47] <wgrant> sluimers: Sure. Link to the build log?
[10:49] <sluimers> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30804944/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[10:49] <sluimers> It's obvious to me it needs corona
[10:50] <sluimers> http://corona.sourceforge.net/
[10:51] <wgrant> sluimers: I can't see a package for that, so you'll need to package it first.
[10:51] <wgrant> sluimers: At this point, #ubuntu-motu might be more help.
[10:52] <sluimers> okay thanks
[11:02] <sluimers> wgrant, are you suggesting I should put corona in the Ubuntu archive?
[11:02] <wgrant> sluimers: Or at least your PPA, yes.
[11:03] <wgrant> sluimers: #ubuntu-motu is also useful for general packaging questions.
[11:53] <sluimers> Okay, I have the same problem with corona now as it depends on libpng
[11:53] <sluimers> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30809648/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.corona_1.0.2~0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:54] <sluimers> how do I tell the PPA to use this dependency?
[12:08] <maxb> sluimers: Looks like you haven't declared the relevant packages in Build-Depends:
[13:10] <geser> how reliable is the mirroring from Debian packages into LP?
[13:16] <wgrant> geser: Normally it's good, unless the mirror stops updating. But it doesn't catch removals.
[13:16] <wgrant> And a package I just looked at has been missed.
[13:16] <wgrant> Hmmmm.
[13:18] <geser> so why is inotifyx (uploaded to Debian on 2009-08-23) already there but e.g. vboxgtk (2009-08-22) not yet. and ssvnc (new in Debian since 2009-08-23) is also missing
[13:19] <geser> I planned to use it as a replacement for rmadison
[13:19] <ogra> geser, wasnt vboxgtk a manual merge ?
[13:19] <wgrant> geser: lives (NEW) was published in Debian three days ago, and the SPN exists but it's not listed as being in Debian.
[13:20] <wgrant> So something is wrong.
[13:20] <wgrant> ogra: This is the LP import of Debian. Nothing to do with merges.
[13:20] <ogra> oh, k
[13:20] <wgrant> cprov: Any ideas on what gina is playing at?
[13:21] <wgrant> Hm.
[13:21] <cprov> wgrant: just failed with EmailAddressAlreadyTaken
[13:21] <wgrant> I can think of one possibility.
[13:21] <wgrant> Yepo.
[13:21] <wgrant> That's the one.
[13:23] <wgrant> That is plaguing a few things, now...
[13:30] <addikt1ve> hi
[13:31] <addikt1ve> maybe you folks can help me :)
[13:31] <addikt1ve> i have a permissions-related problem
[13:31] <addikt1ve> i'd like to give users the rights to upload things on a bzr branch
[13:32] <spiv> addikt1ve: create a team
[13:32] <spiv> addikt1ve: and make the branch be owned by that team
[13:32] <addikt1ve> spiv: how can I do that?
[13:32] <addikt1ve> i'm not the projet head, i just own a branch
[13:33] <spiv> Or you can use an already existing team, of course.
[13:33] <addikt1ve> piero_: o/
[13:33] <piero_> yo addikt1ve
[13:34] <addikt1ve> yoyo gangsta geek
[13:34] <spiv> addikt1ve: there's a "create a new team" link on the front page of https://launchpad.net/
[13:34] <addikt1ve> spiv: <3
[13:35] <spiv> basically, if a branch is owned by a team, then any member of that team can write to it.
[13:37] <addikt1ve> nice spiv, i created the team
[13:37] <addikt1ve> now how can i give it full control over my branch,
[13:37] <addikt1ve> ?
[13:38] <spiv> addikt1ve: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/TeamBranches
[13:38] <spiv> addikt1ve: that's the proper docs on this topic
[13:39] <spiv> addikt1ve: anyway, to give the team control over your branch, change the owner by clicking the yellow edit icon next to where it lists the owner on that branch's page.
[13:39] <addikt1ve> spiv: great, got it
[13:39] <addikt1ve> thanks!
[13:41] <spiv> addikt1ve: next time, if the team already exists, you can just push the branch directly to ~teamname/... rather than ~yourself/... to create it. :)
[13:45] <addikt1ve> spiv: yeah i just realized :)
[13:49] <epsy> there really needs to be a filter fixed bugs option on launchpad :<
[13:52] <epsy> and a "milestone" column :<
[14:28] <addikt1ve> me again
[14:28] <addikt1ve> i've got a problem with bzr
[14:28] <addikt1ve> i want to get a copy of my branch (translation) and start working on it
[14:28] <addikt1ve> so i bzr branch lp:~inx-translation/inx/translation
[14:28] <addikt1ve> then cd translation
[14:28] <addikt1ve> and when i start creating files in it etc and bzr commit
[14:28] <addikt1ve> it tells me there are no changes to commit
[14:28] <addikt1ve> wtf?
[14:30] <beuno> addikt1ve, have you added the new files?
[14:30] <beuno> "bzr status" will tell you
[14:30] <beuno> if you haven't
[14:30] <beuno> "bzr add" will be your friend
[14:31] <addikt1ve> i need to manually add each file i'm working on?
[14:31] <addikt1ve> look, i just touched pouet
[14:31] <addikt1ve> [addikt1ve@arch translation]$ bzr status
[14:31] <addikt1ve> unknown:
[14:31] <addikt1ve>   pouet
[14:31] <beuno> there you go
[14:32] <beuno> it hasn't been added
[14:32] <beuno> you need to tell bzr when you want to version new files, yes
[14:32] <addikt1ve> ok...
[14:32] <addikt1ve> can i bzr add * ?
[14:33] <wgrant> Plain 'bzr add' will add all unknown files.
[14:33] <addikt1ve> wgrant: thanks :) love you
[14:34] <addikt1ve> it works
[14:34] <addikt1ve> thanks :)
[15:27] <EtienneG> hey guys!
[15:28] <EtienneG> who would be responsible for "janitoring" on LP, like deleting projects, etc
[15:32] <intellectronica> EtienneG: any admin. what is this about?
[15:33] <EtienneG> intellectronica, a friend of mine poked me about https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/80152
[15:34] <EtienneG> intellectronica, he is not super-comfortable in English, hence why he is going through me
[15:34] <EtienneG> intellectronica, they are just wondering the status on that on, it's blocking them from migrating their project from SF
[15:35] <intellectronica> EtienneG: iirc project groups need to be approved by kiko or francis. once approved, any of our sysadmins can do it for you
[15:36] <EtienneG> intellectronica, ok then, I will poke Francis in time
[15:40] <EtienneG> intellectronica, thx a lot, btw!   (I am so rude)
[15:41] <intellectronica> EtienneG: np
[15:48] <happyaron> why my translation download requests don't send me email?
[16:46] <MagicFab> Hi all
[16:46] <MagicFab> I'd like to know how to create a new FAQ in LP. I can't seem to find an easy link to that.
[16:46] <hunal1> Hi there ! I would like to know if it's possible to get help for this: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/80152
[16:47] <MagicFab> Or maybe I have to be an answer contact for a given project to do that ?
[16:47] <hunal1> We are currently migrating and it would be cool to know if we can do something to speed up the process
[16:47] <hunal1> (from sf.net)
[16:48] <MagicFab> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/19146 indicates "it's a bug" without referring to it..
[17:12]  * kfogel is away: lunch + an errand
[17:39] <lbieber> On https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-benchmark, I sometimes get email saying i need to approve an email to this list, but don't see anything that shows the mailing list is configured to require approvals.  Any ideas?
[18:34] <didrocks> hey LP guys, do you have currently an issue with token authentification in launchpadlib?
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> LP admin - an apology.
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> I asked for a package to be removed from my ppa earlier, but hit submit before giving a reason.
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> bad form, many apologies.
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> (package has been removed - ta)
[19:04] <nxvl> hi
[19:05] <nxvl> i'm writing a script to report bugs to an LP project, and i'm not fully getting the bug_target concept
[19:05] <nxvl> and i can't find documentation on the topic
[19:13] <salgado> nxvl, what is it that you don't understand about bug targets?
[19:16] <nxvl> salgado: how do i create one
[19:16] <nxvl> salgado: i have found a lot of examples for ubuntu specifics, but not for other projects
[19:17] <salgado> nxvl, a bug target is what's affected by a given bug. could be a sourcepackage, a distro, a project, etc
[19:18] <nxvl> salgado: so i can use Launchpad.bugs.createBug(target="project") and will work?
[19:18] <salgado> yes
[19:18] <nxvl> awesome, thank you!
[19:25] <kamalnandan> yesterday..i created a OpenID on my ubuntu machine...and also registered the fingerprint with lauchpad..today..when i started tha machine i dont see the keys on my machine anymore..
[19:25] <kamalnandan> wondering what happened to them..?
[19:26] <kamalnandan> any clue folks..what would have happened..?
[19:29] <kamalnandan> this OpenPGP key has been creating problems with me since the last 5 days..
[19:30] <kamalnandan> something or the lese goes wrong and/or gets stuck if I am not having the keys..making me sick..
[19:40] <kamalnandan> no takers for my query..
[21:17] <statik>  hi launchpad people, i have a questions about stacking. i desperately need to push a 2a format branch to a project where the dev focus branch is in an older format. is there a way I can force a branch not to stack?
[21:17] <james_w> statik: you can push to +junk and then move the branch to the project in its edit page I believe
[21:18] <statik> james_w, thanks! i'll try that
[21:22] <statik> james_w, looks like i can change the owner but not the project on the branch edit page
[21:23] <james_w> ah
[21:23] <james_w> I think that might be indirectly my fault, sorry :-)
[21:24] <statik> np :) mwhudson gave me a way to do it
[21:26] <lbieber> Trying again - On https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-benchmark, I sometimes get email saying i need to approve an email to this list, but don't see anything that shows the mailing list is configured to require approvals.  Any ideas?
[21:41] <lifeless> how does one decline a bug nomination these days?
[21:51] <sluimers> Hi, I have PPA issue, the program named ika I'm trying to build depends on corona which I succesfully build in PPA, but it cannot find corona
[21:51] <sluimers> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30830132/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:51] <sluimers> I have an PPA issue
[21:51] <sluimers> problem
[21:58] <kfogel> do merged branches ever disappear or something?  I'm looking in code.launchpad.net/~kfogel for some old branches that I *know* were there once upon a time -- they even had merge proposals (this is to use one of the MPs as an example in the dev wiki).  But even with filter set to "any status" I can't see those branches now.
[21:58] <kfogel> npm
[21:58] <kfogel> nm
[21:58] <kfogel> ignore my question above please; it's because I was somehow logged out of LP, and they were private branches
[22:44] <cyberix> the milestone visual looks odd at https://edge.launchpad.net/indicator-applet


[01:35] <sponix> New Ubuntu 17.10 Mate is very nice
[01:54] <mate|46906> Hola Gente
[01:58] <Lengsdorfer> sponix, is it very different from 16.04?
[02:01] <sponix> Lengsdorfer: Can't say I did a whole lot with 16.04  .. New software center, a lot better 3rd party app support (OBS, steam, skype, etc)
[02:06] <Lengsdorfer> Well, i think that after 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate' and update etc. the 16.04 should have an 'up to date' Mate Version too. Or is this wrong? (sorry for speech, i'm no native english speaker):))
[03:27] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[08:14] <sixwheeledbeast> I would also agree the boutique just needed upgrading
[08:15] <sixwheeledbeast> Pretty sure you can do that in the boutique too, without installing the ppa manually.
[08:18] <Pungent> Hi there
[08:19] <Pungent> A quick dumb question, does anyone knows how to turn off the countdown to automatically reboot-shutdown system?
[08:31] <Astro7467> @Lengsdorfer: note that MATE in 16.04.x is a GTK2 (or is it written GTK+2) app, and MATE in 17.10 is GTK3 - so there is a limit to what will get into 16.04 (eg no Brisk Menu) - think the change happened in UM 17.04
[10:06] <mate|85796> hello
[10:07] <alkisg> Hello
[11:12] <Lengsdorfer> Astro7467, thx. I Didn't know.
[11:13] <Lengsdorfer> but i think i will wait till 18.04 :)
[14:39] <gints> yo
[14:39] <arturs> yo
[14:40] <gints> kaa i ko
[14:40] <arturs> kas ir ficuk?
[14:40] <gints> :D:D
[14:40] <artis_> hacker chat
[14:40] <gints> spotted hacker
[14:40] <gints> ban
[14:40] <arturs> HexChat= Sexchat
[14:40] <arturs> hello spoonix
[14:45] <gordonjcp> hello
[14:52] <profP> Hello.
[15:00] <profP> I am running MATE 17.10 on one desktop with two monitors. my main monitor is the right one. so all my desktop icons are placed on this one right one).
[15:00] <profP> my problem: after very log-on ALL the icons are moved to the left monitor.
[15:00] <profP> it was working well with MATE 17.04. (just recently did the distr-upgrade).
[15:00] <profP> Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:29] <profP> any ideas?
[15:29] <alkisg> profP: the icons go to the "primary monitor"
[15:29] <alkisg> You can select the primary monitor with the displays dialog, with xrandr, or with xorg.conf
[15:29] <alkisg> Just go to the displays dialog and select your primary monitor
[15:30] <alkisg> Ah sorry misread
[15:30] <profP> alkisg: thank you, but already did that.
[15:30] <alkisg> What's the output of `xrandr` now?
[15:30] <profP> at least did this with the displays dialog.
[15:30] <alkisg> !pastebin
[15:31] <profP> and AFAICS it is stored correctly.
[15:31] <alkisg> (05:30:34 μμ) alkisg: What's the output of `xrandr` now?
[15:31] <profP> currently I am not on the MATE machine. can u please tell me whole syntax so I will try later at home.
[15:31] <alkisg> The syntax is "xrandr"
[15:32] <alkisg> This displays what you have, so that we can continue with other advice
[15:32] <profP> Alirght, thans
[15:32] <alkisg> kk
[18:26] <gonzalez> Hello everybody, i'm looking for a terminal command to put my unbuntu mate on hibernate mode ?
[18:53] <marosg> gonzales, not sure how valid it is, first gogole hit   https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-command-to-suspend-hibernate-laptop-netbook-pc/
[19:02]  * MastaAce waves.
[19:09] <_ProfP> hej alksig
[19:09] <_ProfP> !pastebin
[19:12] <_ProfP> Running MATE 17.10 on one desktop with two monitors. my main monitor is the right one. so all my desktop icons are placed here.
[19:12] <_ProfP> 0 Antworten 0 Retweets 0 Gefällt mir
[19:13] <_ProfP> My problem: after very log-on ALL the icons are moved to the left monitor.
[19:13] <_ProfP> Any ideas on how to overcome this?
[19:13] <_ProfP> this is what XRANDR says: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25867236/
[19:33] <lucieng> yo
[19:33] <lucieng> hello mates
[19:33] <lucieng> i need you
[19:34] <lucieng> i just migrate from ubuntu(unity?) to ubuntu-mate-desktop with apt
[19:34] <lucieng> but my old profile can't log in mate-desktop
[19:36] <alkisg> try moving aside the .config or .local folders
[19:36] <alkisg> One of them might be to blame
[21:27] <scootergrisen> flexiondotorg: hi are you able to change translation codes on transifex if needed?
[21:28] <scootergrisen> flexiondotorg: I was thinking about only using "da" for danish. Instead of now where the translation is in "da_DK" but there is also the empty "da".
[21:28] <scootergrisen> flexiondotorg: i have asked the other members in the team to se if they mind the change and is waiting the their answer.
[21:32] <cjibo> ok where did the launcher settings go in 17.10? They used to be under MATE Tweaks but don't seem to be there.
[21:33] <cjibo> Not showing up under Panel Features.
[21:36] <yugo_> hello !


[00:10] <Flakeparadigm> I upgraded from lucid and openoffice won't open. I've cleared the ~/.openoffice.org directory, along with uninstalling, and re installing.
[00:10] <Flakeparadigm> When run from the ternimal, it just goes to a new prompt, no feedback.
[00:14] <Flakeparadigm> (However, this happes after the loading dialogue comes up, "loads" and then goes away)
[20:33] <charlie-tca> ubiquity testing - Xubuntu guided resize still shows the Ubuntu/Xubuntu side-by-side partitions