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[05:33] <m000gle> [Ubuntu 15.04 64-bit, i7-2700k CPU, 16GB DDR3, Dual GeForce GTX 760 /w nvidia- proprietary drivers]
[08:05] <oSoMoN> lpotter, I’m embedding the InputInfo code copied from unity8 in webbrowser-app to do mouse detection, and it works OK but the trackpoint on my bluetooth keyboard is not detected as a mouse/touchpad, is that expected, or a bug? note that the trackpoint actually works as a mouse, I can use it to move the cursor around and click on my arale
[08:06] <lpotter> hmm
[08:08] <lpotter> I suppose it should be detected as a mouse I think. need to check on my thinkpad
[08:17] <oSoMoN> lpotter, it seems to be registered as a mouse under /sys/class/input, however InputInfo doesn’t see it
[08:17] <oSoMoN> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat /sys/class/input/mouse1/device/name
[08:17] <oSoMoN> ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
[08:17] <oSoMoN> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat /sys/class/input/event6/device/name
[08:17] <oSoMoN> ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
[08:18] <oSoMoN> I’m guessing event6 is the keyboard, and mouse1 is the trackpoint
[08:29] <oSoMoN> lpotter, ok, the same keyboard/trackpoint combo works when paired to my laptop, so there must be something else
[08:29] <oSoMoN> maybe apparmor permissions
[08:30] <lpotter> ahh ya, part of it needs to be root ;/ libevdev
[08:32] <lpotter> but just for # buttons, switches, etc
[08:33] <lpotter> still doesnt mean apparmor isnt stopping something though
[08:33] <oSoMoN> I am seeing denials, let me see if they are related
[08:49] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ping
[08:51] <Mirv> pong
[08:53] <tsdgeos> Mirv: what would i do to propose a patch for the qtmultimedia we ship on the vivid overlay?
[09:05] <Mirv> tsdgeos: get a silo, give a patch to trainguard.
[09:06] <Mirv> tsdgeos: we'll dget the current overlay, add the patch, upload. that is, manually, there's no branches for the old Qt versions
[09:07] <Mirv> you can get the current one with dget https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+files/qtmultimedia-opensource-src_5.4.1-1ubuntu19~overlay2.dsc
[09:19] <lpotter> oSoMoN: on my thinkpad, the trackpoint comes up as a mouse
[09:23] <oSoMoN> lpotter, yes, same here, I’ve confirmed that it’s apparmor denying access to udev, if I add read permissions for /run/udev/data/** to the browser’s profile, my trackpoint is detected as a mouse too
[09:25] <lpotter> ok
[11:46] <pete-woods> mzanetti: hey. what was the name of that signal you mentioned that is fired when either the user hits return or changes focus from a TextField?
[11:46] <pete-woods> I've looked at onAccepted, but that is only fired on key enter
[11:47] <pete-woods> (maybe it behaves differently on the phone?)
[14:20] <Mirv> tsdgeos: did you get the silo for qtmultimedia like I asked? as I said, the way to get it into silo is via trainguards
[14:21] <tsdgeos> Mirv: no i didn't because there's a need for media-hub patch too
[14:21] <tsdgeos> so i was waiting for jim
[14:23] <Mirv> tsdgeos: it's useful to have a silo anyway, but I can create a ticket for you too (because I'm now online and could push the qtmultimedia test package)
[14:25] <Mirv> tsdgeos: however, the patch does not apply if replacing the old patch with your pastebin patch
[14:25] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it does here
[14:25] <tsdgeos> patch -p1 -R < oldpatch
[14:25] <tsdgeos> patch -p1 < newpath
[14:25] <tsdgeos> works
[14:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: quilt would probably be more strict, maybe it's about that. I'll put instructions on how to reproduce.
[14:28] <tsdgeos> Mirv: all the debian packaging strictness scapes my knownledge
[14:28] <Mirv> tsdgeos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1534776/comments/14
[14:29] <Mirv> tsdgeos: it's often simply about doing it from a clean room that reveals problems. the only additional strictness is that if patch says "with fuzz" then that's not allowed.
[14:30] <Mirv> tsdgeos: and indeed if you do quilt push instead of debuild in those instructions, it shows that it guesses the applying of the patch in two places
[14:30] <Mirv> tsdgeos: also, I wonder how you get dos lineendings in linux o_O
[14:32] <Mirv> tsdgeos: there's at least some additional qDebug in your patch that is not there
[14:34] <Mirv> tsdgeos: the second is that your patch claims upstream would have "Q_REVISION(1) void playlistChanged();" while it has "void sourceChanged();" in a _p.h. that might be worth a look
[14:35] <tsdgeos> there = where?
[14:36] <Mirv> tsdgeos: in the Hunk #4 FAILED at 209.
[14:36] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ↑
[14:36] <tsdgeos> i don't know what hunk #4 failed is
[14:37] <Mirv> tsdgeos: after that is fixes then the add_qdeclarative_playlist.patch would need fixing since it doesn't apply anymore after the role patch changed
[14:37] <tsdgeos> as said if i start with qtmultimedia-opensource-src-5.4.1 and remove one patch and apply the other it works fine
[14:37] <tsdgeos> it's not replacing the patches
[14:37] <Mirv> tsdgeos: it's the part 4 of that qdeclarativeaudio_p.h diff in your patch
[14:38] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes, I simply moved the new patch over to the old one, essentially removing one patch and applying another
[14:38] <tsdgeos> so you replaced the patches
[14:38] <Mirv> tsdgeos: maybe you meant adding the new patch to the end of the queue?
[14:38] <tsdgeos> that's not what i did/said
[14:38] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yes that would be probably closed to what i did
[14:38] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok let's see
[14:39] <tsdgeos> but i guess the subsequent patches may fail to apply
[14:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok, that solved it, only dos2unix was required then. there's a ticket and a silo now from where you and jhodapp can continue on it
[14:43] <tsdgeos> yeah no idea where the dos endings came from
[15:12] <Saviq> Mirv, thanks for picking this up!
[15:15] <Mirv> np


[05:12] <s123> hi all, I am getting segmentation fault on mozilla firefox,chromium everything
[05:13] <s123> does anybody know how can I debug this and report it on launchpad?
[05:15] <micahg> s123: did you get any updates recently?
[05:16] <s123> micahg: nope, I added firefox-daily and tried having firefox 3.7 trunk
[05:16] <micahg> s123: which version of Ubuntu?
[05:16] <s123> micahg: ubuntu 9.10
[05:17] <micahg> do other apps work?  openoffice? toteam?
[05:17] <micahg> *totem?
[05:17] <s123> micahg: totem is also showing segmentation fault
[05:17] <micahg> s123: I'd run a memory check if I were you
[05:18] <micahg> do you still have a memtest option in grub?
[05:19] <s123> micahg: this is in an NTFS partition on Windows
[05:19] <s123> micahg: when I boot up within ubuntu, it just shows up the kernel, nothing about memtest there in grub
[05:20] <micahg> you have ubuntu installed in an ntfs partition?
[05:20] <s123> micahg: correct
[05:20] <micahg> ah, ok
[05:20] <s123> micahg: through wubi
[05:20] <micahg> is your windows installation ok
[05:20] <micahg> ?
[05:20] <s123> that has its own share of issues
[05:21] <s123> that's why booted up in ubuntu
[05:21] <s123> luckily installed few command-line tools as well.
[05:21] <s123> hence able to chat with you.
[05:21] <micahg> well, do you get a lot of application crashes on windows?
[05:22] <s123> micahg: no, not application crashes, sometimes windows freezes/stalls while booting up.
[05:22] <s123> once I'm on the desktop, then very rarely it crashes.
[05:23] <micahg> what video drivers?
[05:23] <s123> that I'm not sure, its an Intel 845G chipset (P4 vintage)
[05:24] <micahg> hmm
[05:24] <s123> micahg: that I'm not sure, its an Intel 845G chipset (P4 vintage)
[05:24] <micahg> that should be ok
[05:24] <s123> micahg: I'm on the GUI interface, just the applications are giving segmentation fault stuff.
[05:26] <micahg> s123: bug 425251 seems to be your answer
[05:26] <s123> I need a browser which can show it
[05:26] <micahg> hmm that was for jaunty
[05:27] <s123> micahg: and it works with karmic, although I wish there was a KISS way of knowing which video drivers are there and stuff like that.
[05:27] <micahg> s123: have you tried epipahny?
[05:28] <micahg> s123: maybe check in #ubuntu-bugs...I don't have much experience troubleshooting segfaults
[05:28] <micahg> although I don't know if anyone's around
[05:29] <s123> micahg: thank you. it would be nice if you are able to point out the debugging page to me
[05:29] <micahg> s123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind
[05:31] <s123> micahg: thanx, starting to install the same as well.
[18:06] <micahg> fta: you around?
[18:54] <fta> hi
[18:54] <fta> micahg, yes?
[19:01] <fta> micahg, ??
[19:04] <micahg2> fta: your bot seems to be broke
[19:04] <fta> no, my branches are
[19:04] <micahg2> ah, ok, as long as you know
[19:04] <fta> last friday, my server had a power failure while the bot was running, now, 3 bzr branches are corrupted
[19:05] <fta> no hope of repair
[19:05] <micahg2> ugh
[19:05] <micahg2> can you start with clean branches?
[19:05] <dtchen> please tell me you weren't using ext4 on the FS on which those bzr branches were hosted
[19:06] <dtchen> and, I hate Linux audio. That is all.
[19:07] <fta> dtchen, i hate weak audio, weak bzr and weak fs
[19:08] <dtchen> aye
[19:09] <fta> dtchen, btw, sdl?
[19:09] <dtchen> fta: sidelined, will look in a bit
[19:09] <dtchen> I'm having connectivity issues
[19:10] <dtchen> also, I need to ask bddebian if he plans to work on it in Debian
[19:19] <fta> micahg, fixed
[19:19] <micahg> yay
[19:19] <micahg> now I can see if the dailies work
[19:32] <fta> ohoh, lots of ppa builders, nice
[19:33] <micahg> yeah, but they have a new algorithm that won't let one ppa monopolize them
[19:38] <fta> hm, right, so it means it will still take forever even if most builders are idle, bad :(
[19:52] <fta> micahg, <fta> hm, right, so it means it will still take forever even if most builders are idle, bad :(
[19:53] <fta> micahg, your cnx is not very stable :P
[20:35] <cyphermox> fta, can I bug you to setup the daily builds for NM's -vpnc and -pptp plugins? :)
[20:36] <micahg> fta: yeah, it's ath9k on karmic
[20:37] <micahg> fta: I can bug them to tweak the algortihm
[20:42] <fta> cyphermox, is the package ready? (i mean, get-orig-source, local branch, etc..)
[20:45] <cyphermox> fta, I believe so -- it's setup exactly the same as network-manager and network-manager-applet
[20:45] <cyphermox> give me a second and i'll double-check, just to be safe.
[20:46] <fta> micahg, yeah, umd will probably never complete in 1 day
[20:46] <fta> cyphermox, i need the branch url to setup the bot: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/annotate/head%3A/ppabot-pkgs-nmt.conf
[20:49] <cyphermox> fta, sure -- lp:~network-manager/network-manager/vpnc-ubuntu.head, and lp:~network-manager/network-manager/pptp-ubuntu.head
[20:51] <cyphermox> fta, is that the url you needed?
[20:51] <fta> yes
[20:51] <fta> cyphermox, is there a specific order to build those?
[20:55] <cyphermox> fta, no, as long as they are built after network-manager itself
[20:55] <fta> ok; after n-m it is
[21:01] <fta> cyphermox, do you want to receive the bot summary by email? see watchers in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/annotate/head%3A/ppabot-nmt.conf
[21:02] <cyphermox> fta, what more does it say compared to the PPA build results?
[21:03] <cyphermox> fta, I guess you could add me :)
[21:04] <fta> i need an email
[21:05] <cyphermox> yup, did you get my msg?
[21:05] <fta> ok, done
[21:05] <cyphermox> thanks
[21:05] <fta> do you want me to respin now?
[21:06] <fta> i guess i should anyway, just to see if it works as expected
[21:06] <cyphermox> alright
[21:07] <micahg> fta: bug 478691
[21:11] <fta> cyphermox, you should have a new email
[21:16] <fta> cyphermox, as long as the subject doesn't say FAIL, it should be fine. it will list packaging changes, tarball size changes, etc.. so you can see what has been sent to the ppa at any given time
[21:16] <cyphermox> awesome
[21:19] <cyphermox> fta, yup, some are already done and built successfully.
[21:20] <fta> the bot is smart enough to detect that
[21:20] <fta> or at least, it should in most cases
[22:13] <fta> micahg, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35386231/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-lpia.firefox-3.7_3.7~a1~hg20091108r34671%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:25] <EruditeHermit> has anyone got gnash-vaapi working?
[22:28] <micahg> ugh
[22:28] <micahg> fta: I'll take care of it a little later
[22:31] <EruditeHermit> dtchen, is this what you have? http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-RangeMax-WNDA3100-Wireless-N-Adapter/dp/B001498LIO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1257719217&sr=8-1
[22:38] <fta> micahg, do you still plan to take over songbird, or should i just delete the ppa?
[22:39] <micahg> no, I plan on getting to it
[22:39] <fta> ok
[22:39] <micahg> I was not feeling well this past week


[18:01] <AlanBell> hi all
[18:02] <AlanBell> #startmeeting IRC team
[18:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Aug 25 18:02:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:02] <AlanBell> hi, who is here for the IRC team meeting?
[18:03] <Flannel> o/
[18:03] <ikonia> I'm certainly watching
[18:04] <AlanBell> Pici: Tm_T: funkyHat: o/
[18:05] <Tm_T> hi
[18:06] <Tm_T> only partially available, sorry
[18:06] <AlanBell> ok
[18:06] <AlanBell> again, not a heap of stuff on the agenda
[18:06] <AlanBell> #topic Review last meetings action items
[18:07] <IdleOne> o/
[18:07] <AlanBell> last meeting was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/IRCC/20130630 and no actions recorded
[18:08] <AlanBell> but I never got round to doing a list of things the bots say
[18:09] <AlanBell> anyhow, lets move on and come back to new actions because I can think of a few things we need to do
[18:09] <AlanBell> #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker
[18:09] <AlanBell> none in the tracker, there have been no recent formal appeals
[18:09] <AlanBell> #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council
[18:09] <AlanBell> no new bugs filed
[18:10] <AlanBell> #topic Membership applications
[18:10] <AlanBell> we have no new membership applications
[18:10] <AlanBell> #topic Any Other Business
[18:10] <AlanBell> gosh that was quick :)
[18:10] <bazhang> not m4v ?
[18:10] <IdleOne> m4v was finnaly approved
[18:10] <AlanBell> m4v is a member now, was approved a few months ago
[18:10] <bazhang> alright
[18:10] <IdleOne> little while ago
[18:10] <AlanBell> cloak and everything :)
[18:11] <IdleOne>  there have been no recent formal appeals ?
[18:11] <AlanBell> indeed, there have not
[18:11] <IdleOne> This confuses me
[18:11] <IdleOne> what exactly constitutes a formal appeal?
[18:12] <AlanBell> someone sending us an email with the details of what they want to appeal about
[18:12] <IdleOne> I see
[18:13] <IdleOne> So joining the council channel and making a complaint does not count?
[18:13] <AlanBell> there have been some discussions with users where we have advised them of how to appeal and we let them talk if they want to say their piece
[18:14] <AlanBell> anyone can pop in to the #ubuntu-irc-council for a chat at any time, but an appeal is by email
[18:14] <Tm_T> AlanBell: does appeal process say that?
[18:15] <IdleOne> it should if not
[18:15] <ikonia> if you follow the process it says you should email the council on the list after discussing it with the ops
[18:16] <IdleOne> I haven't read it recently but I recall it saying they can also join the ircc channel. It should be made clear if not
[18:16] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess
[18:16] <AlanBell> there is a bit of an OR in there
[18:17] <IdleOne> there is an either or
[18:17] <IdleOne> I suggest it be cleared up
[18:18] <DJones> On the basis that the purpose of #ubuntu-irc-council has never been explained to me since I was accepted as an op in #ubuntu, what is its purpose? is it a a private channel with no idling or something that #ubuntu* ops should be aware of?
[18:18] <AlanBell> so yes, if people pop in to the channel we do try and sort out what the problem is, but I was generally counting emails as formal appeals
[18:19] <AlanBell> the channel is very rarely used, it is handy if we want to discuss something with someone so that all the council can see discussions rather than having private messages with us as individuals
[18:19] <IdleOne> I am fine with making it email if you want this to be a formal complaint OR join the channel if you want to alert the council to something without it being a huge deal type thing
[18:23] <AlanBell> yeah, that might be good to clarify in the documentation
[18:24] <IdleOne> AlanBell: only because some of us were under the impression there had been a formal complaint made against some of the ops.
[18:25] <IdleOne> least that is what we were told.
[18:25] <IdleOne> Good to know we can continue to abuse our powers without consequence :)
[18:26] <IdleOne> that was a joke, just in case nobody got it.
[18:26] <AlanBell>  /kick IdleOne
[18:28] <Tm_T> IdleOne: this is serious business, we don't understand humout
[18:28] <Tm_T> r
[18:28] <bazhang> hummus is welcome though
[18:28] <AlanBell> hmm, something weird going on with my connection :(
[18:29] <IdleOne> Tm_T: plz2email for formal complaint. kthx
[18:29] <bazhang> falafel not included
[18:29] <Tm_T> done
[18:31] <AlanBell> ok, so from that
[18:31] <AlanBell> #action ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint
[18:31] <meetingology> ACTION: ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint
[18:31] <AlanBell> is there any other other business?
[18:32] <Flannel> AlanBell: You said you had things earlier (at :09)
[18:33] <AlanBell> yup, just we need to do a round of cloak audits for people who are expired or whatever
[18:34] <Flannel> Well, that's not very exciting at all.  What are we paying you for?
[18:34] <AlanBell> #action AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[18:34] <meetingology> ACTION: AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[18:36] <AlanBell> and the other thing to mention is that we had a catchup meeting with the CC about a month ago, I will try and find the logs to link
[18:36] <AlanBell> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-01-17.00.log.html#l-81
[18:37] <AlanBell> ok, anything else to add?
[18:37] <AlanBell> lets wrap it up there then
[18:37] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[18:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Aug 25 18:38:18 2013 UTC.
[18:37] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-25-18.02.moin.txt
[18:37] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-25-18.02.html
[18:38] <AlanBell> thanks everyone
[18:38] <ikonia> AlanBell: anything of note we should look at in the CC review ?
[18:38] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:39] <cjohnston> /26
[18:39] <AlanBell> ikonia: not really, it was fairly brief
[18:39] <AlanBell> just wanted to point to those logs in these logs really
[18:40] <IdleOne> BINGO
[18:40] <IdleOne> slowly getting BINGO in all my channels
[19:12] <funkyHat> what!
[19:18] <funkyHat> Which timezone am I in? I thought 20:00 UTC was 40 minutes from now!
[19:18] <bazhang> @now UTC
[19:18] <meetingology> bazhang: Error: "now" is not a valid command.