[11:45] <frogzoo> bob_4_a_day: so dont run your daemons as root :)
[11:46] <Jerka^> Ok, here's a newbie question. If I type "program x" in a terminal, program x starts, but it occupies the terminal window so I can't use it again until I exit program x. I know there's some way to avoid this, but how?
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> yeah like 'dont install as root' isn't it ?
[11:46] <frogzoo> Jerka^: nohup program &
[11:47] <IRCMonkey999> why am i unable to see am, pm on my system tray clock? this happens only in my login
[11:47] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hi all what is this cannot determine eth dst addr possibly missing arp cache entry
[11:47] <bob_4_a_day> Jerka^ or 'openvt -- program x ' and let it have another controlling vt
[11:48] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: pls describe your network hardware configiration
[11:48] <Jerka^> OK, thanks guys.
[11:48] <matrix-ubuntu-c> my network is usin pppoe internet connection
[11:48] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: did you run pppoeconf    ?
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> yes i am surfin
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> but when i run a software i get that message
[11:49] <frogzoo> which program?
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nmap
[11:50] <dpupp> is there 1 media player that does it all and does it good? dvd playback and encoded media with dual audio tracks and subtitles? ....
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ arp -a
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why arp -a shows nothing
[11:51] <IRCMonkey999> dpupp: i think vlc + all plugins, or mplayer...
[11:52] <dpupp> the only thing i can think of is VLC. i got VLC... plugins? as in win32? or are there more than just that?
[11:52] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i just checked the tuning on this / fs and noticed it is one of the ones that i set the reserve = 0% on  :)    Reserved blocks uid:      0 (user root)
[11:52] <reign> frogzoo, sorry it's taking long, gotta put a damn flash disk in to get the file
[11:52] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: tell dpupp about media formats
[11:52] <frogzoo> reign: cool
[11:53] <soundray> I received my Ubuntu CDs today. Waited circa three weeks. Very nice: each install-live pair is in a cardboard sleeve.
[11:53] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: tell dpupp about restricted formats
[11:54] <IRCMonkey999> why cant i see AM, PM on my system clock? anyone have this problem?
[11:54] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: whats the command youe using to start nmap?
[11:54] <tyler_> how do i install video codecs in ubuntu?
[11:55] <frogzoo> !tell tyler_ about restricted mpeg dvd
[11:55] <tyler_> frogzoo, i didn't get a tell.
[11:55] <frogzoo> tyler_: you need to authenticate to nickserv
[11:55] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, set it to 24 hours. That way, there can be no mistake, and you're conforming to international open standards.
[11:55] <raphink> !codecs
[11:55] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:56] <tyler_> frogzoo, ok
[11:56] <raphink> !w32codecs
[11:56] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:56] <tyler_> frogzoo, how do i do that, im used to gamesurge
[11:56] <frogzoo> !restricted mpeg dvd
[11:56] <ubotu> frogzoo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:56] <raphink> hmm seems ubotu is in vacation
[11:56] <frogzoo> !dvd
[11:56] <ubotu> I heard dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[11:56] <frogzoo> !mpeg
[11:56] <ubotu> frogzoo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:56] <frogzoo> !restricted
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:56] <raphink> ubotu: hello
[11:56] <ubotu> what's up
[11:56] <aftertaf>  /msg ubotu
[11:56] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: but why cant i see AM or PM in 12 hour format. This is only in my login, in other logins its fine.... :(
[11:56] <tyler_> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[11:57] <tyler_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:57] <tyler_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:57] <tyler_>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> !paste
[11:57] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:57] <tyler_> ok, sry
[11:57] <frogzoo> tyler_: you need to download the file first
[11:57] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  w00t?
[11:57] <tyler_> frogzoo, im stupid, thanks
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf ?
[11:58] <frogzoo> tyler_: 1st time for everyone
[11:58] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  are you root?
[11:58] <tyler_> frogzoo,  :)
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> sometimes.....
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> no
[11:58] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  just considering your user id...
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> ircing as root is just asking someone to hack your box
[11:59] <frogzoo> Im root atm - please send me a dcc
[11:59] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf i know i set it.
[11:59] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[11:59] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, I think it's a bug then. Have you logged out and in again after changing to 12h format?
[12:00] <tyler_> what gnome website can alter the top and bottom bars?
[12:00] <reign> frogzoo http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5294
[12:00] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: yes... i even restarted... :-|
[12:00] <frogzoo> thx
[12:01] <topyli> tyler_: what do you mean. no website can alter my panels
[12:01] <bob_4_a_day> you can set the user mask to anything you like for most irc clients.   some networks balk at things like *  or .  but you can set it to anything.
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> i just perfer to set mine to 'root' it kinda has a nastalga(!sp)  about it.
[12:03] <reign> is that what you asked for frogzoo ?
[12:03] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf hehhe also that is a proxy  i'm not even in that state.
[12:07] <frogzoo> reign: getting closer "PCI:UnabletoreserveI/Oregion#1:100@de00fordevice0000:00:09.0"
[12:08] <jdky_> hi, im trying to put 5.10 in my new computer but I wasn't able to resize a ntfs partition with gparted using the live cd. i could select the options but nothing happens after I apply the action. any help??
[12:08] <matrix-ubuntu-c> anyone who can solve my little problem
[12:08] <frogzoo> reign: can you try changing the irq=11    ?
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: you can try using the partitioner in the installer, i don't know anythng about gpartd
[12:09] <frogzoo> jdky_: resize your ntfs partition from within windows
[12:09] <jdky_> Kamping_Kaiser: can i resize a ntfs partition with the instaler?
[12:09] <frogzoo> jdky_: no, absolutely not
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: i think so
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> you sure frogzoo?
[12:09] <reign> change irq to 11 ?
[12:09] <jdky_> is it possible to do it in windows?
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> and frogzoo Windows wont resize partitions, you have to get 3rd party software
[12:09] <reign> in that modprobe.d folder ?
[12:10] <frogzoo> reign: yep, & reboot - just to c
[12:10] <reign> kk
[12:10] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, I've worked it out: it is in fact a bug.
[12:10] <lig> Ok - did as crimsun suggested and editted the control file so that amd64 was added... still had an error saying " current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[12:10] <lig> ".  downloaded the amd64 driver for the wireless card, placed it in the windows_drivers directory under HOME and removed the originally downloaded driver.  Still the same error "current build arch...".  Current ouput when I try to build is located at - http://pastebin.com/445994.  Any other ideas or suggestions for what to do to get my wireless card up and working?
[12:10] <frogzoo> Kamping_Kaiser: to resize, youd have to rewrite the file system - & so far, linux cant do that
[12:10] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: wooooooo :-)
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> frogzoo: i heard it resizes fine, but desont write files
[12:11] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, if you set the clock format string in gconf, it ignores %p, which according to man strftime should be replaced with a.m. or p.m. appropriately.
[12:11] <jdky_> yes me too, has anyone used gparted to resize a ntfs partition?
[12:11] <reign> k rebooting
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: anything i can do to make it come back?
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: perhaps edit gconf?
[12:11] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, report a bug. Don't ask me how, though...
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: me am a noobie....
[12:12] <IRCMonkey999> lol
[12:12] <frogzoo> jdky_: well, half your luck - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
[12:12] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: thanks....
[12:12] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, no gconf is fine. It's the panel applet that's buggy, I think.
[12:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> cannot determine eth dst addr
[12:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> possibly missing arp cache entry  what does this mean folks
[12:12] <jdky_> frogzoo, sorry but i dont get what you just said
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: don't blame him, in short ;)
[12:13] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: whats the command you use to start nmap ?
[12:13] <jdky_> ok, ill find a way
[12:13] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo nmap -v slashdot.rg
[12:13] <jdky_> i saw something about this in the forums, ill check
[12:13] <jdky_> thanks a lot for the help
[12:15] <reign> k frogzoo, still no card in network settings list
[12:15] <bob_4_a_day> ah lunch time.  bbiab
[12:16] <frogzoo> reign: I have a cunning idea - mv /etc/modprobe.d/tulip xtulip  ; then move the nic to a different pci slot
[12:16] <frogzoo> and reboot
[12:16] <os2mac> is shipit offering Kubuntu now?
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: not untill dapper (i hear)
[12:17] <os2mac> ahhh
[12:17] <Orporg> If it's not too much trouble, I'd like a hand getting my network connection going, please.
[12:19] <darkelder> hey
[12:19] <soundray> I need xpdf to scroll faster when I roll the mouse wheel. How can I configure this please?
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 docs, crap
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was supposed to be leraning
[12:20] <reign> frogzoo, i have actually just moved the card
[12:20] <reign> to another slot
[12:21] <frogzoo> reign: oh, does lspci still show it as irq 10 ?
[12:21] <Orporg> I believe my card and stuff is running ok, but I can't seem to connect to the Internet
[12:22] <frogzoo> Orporg: do you use dsl? sudo pppoeconf
[12:22] <soundray> Orporg, what kind of internet connection?
[12:22] <reign> dec ill check
[12:23] <Orporg> I'm using wifi
[12:23] <reign> no as irq11
[12:23] <Orporg> I have both a Mac and Windows machine running off this access point at the moment without a hitch
[12:23] <frogzoo> Orporg: have you configd the if ?
[12:24] <Orporg> I went through the "Networking" thing under Administration.  I gave it the name of my network as well as the WEP key
[12:24] <Orporg> It says the connection is active.  Oh, and the access point hands out IPs with DHCP, so I told it that
[12:24] <soundray> Orporg, can you ping the Mac and the Windows box?
[12:24] <frogzoo> Orporg: so you should see an ip addy with ifconfig ?
[12:25] <termo> Hi there, I'm having problems with my mouse: I just installed (k)ubuntu and my problem is that after a while my mouse freezes. Which can be solved after switching to console.
[12:25] <termo> I have googled, and found that this might be a kernel bug
[12:26] <termo> Can anyone confirm this. So far I have found nog solution while STFW.
[12:26] <frogzoo> reign: what happens when you 'insmod tulip' now ?
[12:26] <Orporg> Nope.  I have it set to DHCP and those fields are grayed out
[12:27] <soundray> Orporg, who are you replying to?
[12:27] <frogzoo> Orporg: after you close the gui, open a terminal & type ifconfig
[12:27] <topyli> suppose i had a star wreck xvid file here. how would i go about making a VCD?
[12:27] <reign> insmod: can't read 'tulip': no such file or directory
[12:27] <Orporg> Command not found
[12:27] <Orporg> Wait
[12:27] <Orporg> Yes it is
[12:27] <Orporg> Sorry
[12:27] <sorush20> good Morning?
[12:27] <soundray> termo, possible workaround: configure X (xorg.conf) to use sw_cursor.
[12:27] <sorush20> Good Morning
[12:28] <vbgunz> how do I make another text editor the default text editor? I wish to trade out Gedit for SciTE... Anyone know how to do this?
[12:28] <sorush20> l
[12:28] <sorush20> Morning
[12:28] <topyli> there must be a two-click gnome tool for that. i'm surprised it's not in the nautilus context menu :)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> is there something i need extra to run chmod?
[12:28] <nandemonai> hi ppl
[12:28] <frogzoo> reign: can you paste 'lsmod'
[12:28] <Orporg> Ok, I have a screenfull of numbers.  No packets have been sent between the access point and the computer
[12:28] <topyli> vbgunz: set the EDITOR and VISUAL variables in your .bashrc
[12:29] <reign> not really, but tulip is listed in insmod
[12:29] <reign> soz
[12:29] <stock> vbgunz, export EDITOR to the editor you want
[12:29] <reign> lsmod
[12:29] <vbgunz> topyli: thanks
[12:29] <davix> how do I run openrpg on ubuntu?
[12:29] <sorush20> guys whawt is the battery status checking package, I'm running a PC without a battery but accidently installed the battery checking program, it just stops responding at boot and Kubuntu will not boot fully what is the package name so that I can apt-get remove it?
[12:29] <stock> d'oh
[12:29] <sorush20> !battery
[12:29] <ubotu> sorush20: Not a clue
[12:29] <stock> too slow
[12:29] <topyli> vbgunz: VISUAL controls only X editors, EDITOR means console too
[12:29] <sorush20> !batt
[12:29] <ubotu> sorush20: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:29] <vbgunz> topyli: thank you!
[12:30] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  the battery thing is for laptops it lets them know the status of battery
[12:30] <frogzoo> reign: rmmod tulip ; insmod tulip
[12:30] <nandemonai> one simply question for everyone, what media player do you use in ubuntu under gnome?
[12:30] <termo> soundray: thanks, I will have a look at that.
[12:30] <vbgunz> topyli: gedit was not found in .bashrc... Am I looking for something else in there?
[12:30] <topyli> nandemonai: depends on the media. :) rhythmbox, mplayer
[12:31] <topyli> vbgunz: gedit is the system-wide default, hence not defined in your .bashrc
[12:31] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I just need to know the package name and so that I can remove it from the computer, I have a pc not a laptop and it doesn't have a battery so it hangs on checking for the battery any help please?
[12:31] <nandemonai> I'm trying to pick one to stick with..
[12:31] <reign> rmmod removed the module
[12:31] <reign> but insmod says it cant find the file
[12:31] <reign> @ frogzoo
[12:31] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  you can remove it from synaptic
[12:31] <vbgunz> topyli: sorry I wasn't clear :( I meant to get rid of Gedit and replace it with SciTE... Is this possible?
[12:31] <topyli> vbgunz: just add a line like this: export VISUAL=favorite-editor
[12:31] <soundray> Is there any way to configure the wheel-scrolling speed?
[12:32] <topyli> vbgunz: you want to uninstall gedit altogether?
[12:32] <jsteidl> has anbody allready packaged banshee-0.9.12 for ubuntu?
[12:32] <vbgunz> topyli: export VISUAL=SciTE
[12:32] <nandemonai> I find rhythm box and banshee buggy.. xmms is ok but i generally like something more ituney..
[12:32] <vbgunz> topyli: no, Leaving Gedit in is fine
[12:33] <jsteidl> nandemonai: banshee is kinda itunee ;)
[12:33] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, if SciTE is really the filename of the binary, and it's in your path
[12:33] <sorush20> gnomefreak: you misunderstood, the boot up hangs at that batter stage can someone help please?
[12:33] <nandemonai> jsteidl, yeah I have probs with it crashing alot
[12:33] <sorush20> gnomefreak: all I need to find out is the package name so that I can remove it
[12:33] <vbgunz> topyli: yes, do I also add on the %U?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  if its hanging because of that program go into synaptic find it and remove it
[12:34] <topyli> vbgunz: i never did :)
[12:34] <xored> can someone help me with the proftpd conf : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste . I still cannot login with ftpnormal. Why ?
[12:34] <vbgunz> topyli: thanks, do I have to restart something or maybe log out once this is done?
[12:34] <jsteidl> yep, 0.9.7  is kinda strange to use, but thats the reason i was asking for 9.12, it is said (propagted by the maintainer :)) that it has improved alot.
[12:34] <topyli> vbgunz: just start a new shell, like a new gnome-terminal and test away
[12:35] <vbgunz> ok!
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorush20, thats the good thing about synaptic if you dont know the name of it you can still locate it there
[12:35] <topyli> vbgunz: gnome of course has its own idea about "defaults" :\
[12:35] <vbgunz> topyli: added the line but not sure how to "test away" :P
[12:35] <Orporg> I typed in "iwconfig" and it told me something interesting:  No wireless extensions.
[12:36] <topyli> vbgunz: well, EDITOR is usually started by scripts and such...
[12:36] <topyli> hmm
[12:36] <gnomefreak> sorush20, there is more than one battery status program so its gonna be hard for anyone to say its this one or that one ccause it would all be guesse
[12:37] <topyli> vbgunz: try "$VISUAL file.txt" :)
[12:37] <vbgunz> ok
[12:37] <_max_> Iv just installed Kubuntu 5.10, i configured proxy's and i can use konqueror to browse the web, however i uncommented the sources in /etc/apt/source.list and ran apt-get update, and it left me with allot of (111 connection refused)
[12:37] <_max_> anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> sorush20, im assuming you installed it through synaptic if not when you get to command line hit the arrow up button to togle through your commands that you have used and find it
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: neither $VISUAL file.txt OR VISUAL file.txt does anything when tried in the console...
[12:38] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: do u have any proxies installed?
[12:38] <vbgunz> hold up
[12:38] <topyli> vbgunz: hrm. what does "echo $VISUAL" print?
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: one sec
[12:38] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i've had that problem because of the proxies
[12:39] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: especially some annoying little anonymous proxy
[12:39] <reign> frogzoo: modprobe tulip says : unknown param 'io'
[12:39] <sorush20> gnomefreak: is there a way that I could list the packages and find out what it is ?
[12:39] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i removed that and then it was fine
[12:39] <Orporg> And when I used "iwscan" there were no scan results
[12:39] <vbgunz> topyli: it echos nothing...
[12:39] <frogzoo> reign: k, remove the io spec & try again
[12:39] <frogzoo> reign: wierd modprobe can find tulip, not insmod
[12:40] <_max_> im running through the company proxy.
[12:40] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I'm using kubuntu so I think its one of the kubuntu packages
[12:40] <_max_> i have to enter the proxy to get online :)
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: then the variable is not set. try "which SciTE"
[12:40] <vbgunz> it works
[12:40] <_max_> it worked fine through the proxy running Debian 3.1 though
[12:40] <vbgunz> I had to restart the terminal
[12:40] <reign> lol now it says unknown 'irq'
[12:40] <vbgunz> topyli: it now says scite
[12:40] <reign> AHA
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, .bashrc is sourced only on a new shell
[12:40] <frogzoo> yes?
[12:40] <reign> dmesg says
[12:41] <vbgunz> I just don't like gedit because it doesn't open up some files in which scite can
[12:41] <topyli> vbgunz: or explicitly with "source .bashrc"
[12:41] <reign> linux tulip driver v ....
[12:41] <vbgunz> topyli: gotcha, thanks for that tip!
[12:41] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i'm a noobie to linux.... it happened 2 days back to me
[12:41] <reign> acpi : pci interrupt blah blah -> irq 11
[12:41] <aftertaf> !start an editor war
[12:41] <ubotu> nano is better than xemacs.
[12:41] <xored> why does a USER have to has a shell to login into proftpd ?
[12:41] <reign> pci: unable to reserve i/o reguin blah blah
[12:42] <vbgunz> maybe I should log out topyli?
[12:42] <reign> region
[12:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  im not really sure of the command i know ls lists files but thinking only file in home dir.
[12:42] <frogzoo> yep, thats the problem
[12:42] <aftertaf> xored:  cos it uses a unix user account to let you log in?
[12:42] <reign> do io available
[12:42] <reign> ?
[12:42] <reign> no*
[12:42] <xored> aftertaf: but than, this user could login with ssh too, isnt it that way ?=
[12:42] <aftertaf> xored:  yes...
[12:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20, seeing is you dont know where it is is just making it that much harder on you do you have something against synaptic?
[12:42] <xored> aftertaf: and that should be OK ?
[12:43] <topyli> vbgunz: naah. VISUAL and EDITOR are used much less often than you'd think
[12:43] <frogzoo> reign: couple of things - remove the lines we added in /etc/modules
[12:43] <xored> aftertaf: sorry, is there a other way, is this server jsut trash ?
[12:43] <aftertaf> xored:  strong passwords.....   and make it to only members of the ssh group can login via ssh.
[12:43] <frogzoo> reign: then we need to work on getting the options passed in /etc/modprobe.d/tulip
[12:43] <topyli> vbgunz: you'll see that for example when you click a text file in nautilus, it will probably open in gedit
[12:43] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what?
[12:43] <vbgunz> topyli: oh? :( It seems when I try opening text files, they open in Gedit instead of Scite....
[12:44] <xored> aftertaf: or better choose another server ? what would you do. How can i restrict only users which are in SSH to connect to SSH ?
[12:44] <topyli> vbgunz: gnome doesn't care much about shell defaults
[12:44] <vbgunz> topyli: you use KDE/
[12:44] <aftertaf> its in sshconfig file i think
[12:44] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  do you know what directory the application you are trying to get rid of is?
[12:44] <topyli> vbgunz: not since KDE 1.2 :)
[12:45] <vbgunz> topyli: I hear that...
[12:45] <aftertaf> xored:  or run the ftp server in a chroot
[12:45] <vbgunz> topyli: :)
[12:45] <soundray> sorush20, could the package you want to remove be klaptopdaemon?
[12:45] <xored> aftertaf:  i just dont want the suer to have login with SSHl, thats just stupid
[12:45] <aftertaf> xored:  look in the sshconfig file for the server then.....
[12:45] <gnomefreak> soundray, it could very well be but he doesnt know what its called :(
[12:46] <topyli> vbgunz: try to find a key in gconf-editor that sets the defaults for different mime types
[12:46] <vbgunz> topyli: ok
[12:46] <soundray> sorush20, try 'sudo apt-get remove klaptopdaemon'. If it's not installed, it'll tell you.
[12:46] <reign> frogzoo : modprobe.d/tulip too ?
[12:47] <vbgunz> topyli: file-roller, mail and evolution mime types only :(
[12:47] <twilight> hi. I'm on dapper, kernel 2.6.15. Now system in without hotplug, (it's ok, i've read something about this in HarwareDetection Page on wiki). but...now...my wlan0 (depending by ndiswrapper) is down.."ndiswrapper -l" give me the "driver present, hardware present"..any ideas?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> him not knowing the name i gave him synaptic to try and find it and get rid of it but hes dead set agianst it :(
[12:47] <frogzoo> reign: sent you an im
[12:47] <reign> oh soz
[12:48] <vbgunz> topyli: am looking into gedit in gconf
[12:48] <vbgunz> topyli: maybe something there...
[12:48] <frogzoo> reign: the thing now is to get the options in /etc/modprobe.d/tulip correct
[12:48] <xored> aftertaf: cannot find anything to configure the "group" permission for login in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf . What whould there be ?
[12:48] <Mabus06> How do I make a shortcut with "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shortcut? I tried putting it in the "command" part of the shortcut with smeg, but it only works if I type it in manually at terminal. Any ideas?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i dont need to be cded to the dir.  to use dpkg. i can use dpkg from anywhere and it should work right?
[12:49] <vbgunz> topyli: :( no gedit default options and no scite either in gconf...
[12:50] <tim_work> hi
[12:50] <_max_> asd
[12:50] <tim_work> does anyone know how to get ffox 1.5 installed via apt? Is there a repo somewhere with it?
[12:51] <Mabus06> read topic tim_work
[12:51] <Mabus06> "no firefox 1.5 in breezy until after it appears in dapper"
[12:51] <soundray> Mabus06, sudo echo -e \#\!/bin/sh \n doom3 +set s_driver oss >/usr/local/bin/doom ; sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom
[12:51] <tim_work> Mabus06: ah thanks
[12:52] <_max_> hmm... i switched network to one that doesn't use a proxy and apt works fine... i mean i can browse the internet with the proxy network.. doesn't apt use the same proxy config?
[12:52] <_max_> since apt seems to use http?
[12:52] <soundray> Mabus06, you should then be able to call 'doom' from anywhere.
[12:53] <aftertaf> twilight:  what page is that hardware dapper on?
[12:53] <aftertaf> xored:  i did it with webmin, i cant remember what the option is in the config file....
[12:54] <IRCMonkey999> Mabus06: what does "until after it appears in dapper" mean? wont it be out until april 2006?
[12:54] <Natsuki> Hello
[12:54] <balor> Whats the Ubuntu dev channel?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> why doesnt dpkg work on a deb :(
[12:54] <aftertaf> _max_:  you need to set apt up for proxy
[12:54] <aftertaf> !aptproxy
[12:54] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue
[12:54] <Mabus06> IRCMonkey999, I don't know, I just know how to read the topic. *shrugs*
[12:54] <Mabus06> soundray,  bash: /usr/local/bin/doom: Permission denied
[12:54] <soundray> Mabus06, you forgot to sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom
[12:54] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: it probably means there will not be a backport before dapper has sources from which to backport :)
[12:55] <Mabus06> soundray, you told me to do the first command first though... okay
[12:55] <aftertaf> _max_:  make a new file called apt.conf in /etc/apt
[12:55] <gnomefreak> this is about to piss me off. ok to install .deb you dpkg -i <file>.deb?
[12:55] <Mabus06> soundray,  chmod: cannot access `/usr/local/bin/doom': No such file or directory
[12:55] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: and how soon will that be.... approx. ;)
[12:55] <tjackoman> hey! what xorg driver do you recommend for laptop with ati radeon mobility graphics?
[12:55] <YukiIkyuta|awy> _max_, APT can also use FTP.
[12:55] <aftertaf> _max_:  and put this in it : Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8090";
[12:55] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: it's possible there will never be a backport because firefox easily causes a dependency hell and you'll end up backporting half the system
[12:56] <aftertaf> _max_:  change addr & port ;)
[12:56] <YukiIkyuta|awy> _max_, you can also set the proxy up in Synaptic.
[12:56] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: :-o
[12:56] <twilight> aftertaf, i've read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDetection
[12:57] <aftertaf> twilight:  thx
[12:57] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: RC3 seems to be in dapper, so the final should arrive there soon. we'll see then if backporting is feasible
[12:57] <GNAM> APACHE 2.2.0 OUT!
[12:57] <GNAM> incredible
[12:58] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: oh ok...
[12:58] <GNAM> New features include Smart Filtering, Improved Caching, AJP Proxy, Proxy Load Balancing, Graceful Shutdown support, Large File Support, the Event MPM, and refactored Authentication/Authorization
[12:59] <IRCMonkey999> anyone knows a good common lisp IDE for ubuntu linux gnome ?
[12:59] <soundray> Mabus06, slight modification, watch the double backslash: 'sudo -i ; echo -e \#\!/bin/sh \\n doom3 +set s_driver oss >/usr/local/bin/doom ; chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom'
[12:59] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: here's how i installed 1.5: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283&highlight=firefox+1.5
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !tell IRCMonkey999 about firefox1.5
[01:00] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: sorry, here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <Mabus06> soundray, doom is in /usr/local/games/doom
[01:00] <_eliphas> !wiki mp3
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ok anyone how do i get linux yo use java 1.5 instead of defaul for ubuntu 1.4?
[01:00] <Mabus06> soundray, rather, /usr/local/games/doom3
[01:01] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: dance for me... ;)
[01:01] <soundray> Mabus06, don't worry about that.
[01:01] <ColdWind> gnomefreak, you can download it from PLF repostories
[01:01] <topyli> gnomefreak: update-alternatives --config java
[01:01] <balor> gnomefreak, The ununtu default is gcj not the Sun JVM an is only at 1.4
[01:01] <IRCMonkey999> thanx topyli , Hobbsee
[01:01] <soundray> Mabus06, you just want a shortcut, don't you? The script /usr/local/bin/doom that we're creating fulfils that function.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ColdWind,  its down loaded and installed but when i java -version it still gives me the 1.4
[01:01] <Mabus06> yes
[01:01] <Hobbsee> IRCMonkey999: no problems
[01:02] <Mabus06> soundray,  when I type in the command you give me it has a > thing on the line, looks like it's awaiting input for something...
[01:02] <ColdWind> #deb ftp://antesis.freecontrib.org/freecontrib/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[01:02] <ColdWind> #deb-src ftp://antesis.freecontrib.org/freecontrib/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[01:02] <_max_> aftertaf : that worked :) thanks!!!!
[01:02] <IRCMonkey999> any suggestions for a good common lisp IDE for ubuntu linux gnome ? i'm noobs to both linux and lisp
[01:02] <aftertaf> !apt_proxy
[01:02] <ubotu> [apt_proxy]  for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt;conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";
[01:02] <ColdWind> Java 1.5 is on these repos
[01:02] <_max_> now for the next question... Somehow on every machine iv installed Kubuntu on the konsole puts a small "pipe" like symbol to the far left.
[01:02] <aftertaf> :)
[01:03] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: emacs is probably best for that
[01:03] <_max_> on each and every line.. anyone know what does this? aterm and xterm work fine..
[01:03] <IRCMonkey999> oh ok...
[01:03] <soundray> Mabus06, you probably pasted one of the quotes. Just copy the stuff between the quotes. Make sure you don't introduce any linebreaks.
[01:03] <brenner> _max_: that's an applet for the open windows iirc
[01:03] <soundray> Mabus06, Ctrl-C to get away from the > prompt
[01:03] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: since emacs basically is nothing but a lisp interpreter :)
[01:03] <xored> aftertaf: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1204 . What is wrong. Why i cannot override the LOGIN option later, whats wrong ?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ColdWind,  even with my java repo 1.5 still isnt on there its 1.4
[01:03] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: :)
[01:04] <_max_> free~brenner: it seems more like a artifact or bug since it doesn't _always_ appear and it looks ... wierd..
[01:04] <ColdWind> gnomefreak you need to change the simbolic links on /usr/bin, it should be made with dpkg-divert
[01:04] <_max_> it looks like its screwd up teh font since some letters are really hard to read.
[01:04] <ColdWind> the simbolic links are pointing to gcj (I think)
[01:04] <mwe> gnomefreak: topyli told you what to do.  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:04] <brenner> _max_: oh, probably not that then ... screenie?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> they are
[01:05] <vbgunz> topyli: it is official... logging out won't help anything...
[01:05] <sorush20> guys I need to fix the apt-get get I type in sudo apt-get install or remove -f but I keep getting temprary failure resolving archive.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <aftertaf> xored:  argh, for the ftp access, i dunno
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mwe,  i know i have it typed wait for update to finish
[01:05] <ColdWind> mwe, I didn't know that way, it seem a good alternative ;)
[01:05] <sorush20> this is because i'm not connecte to the internet yet but if I can't connect how can I fix the problem?
[01:05] <_max_> brenner : changing theme from "black and white" to "vim" fixed it..
[01:05] <mwe> it should take about half a second
[01:05] <gnomefreak> once i dpkged it it had an update than i will run the command
[01:06] <_max_> seems its just rendering the font thats used in "black and white" theme thats being renderd wierd.
[01:06] <soundray> sorush20, are you still trying to remove that battery thing?
[01:06] <Mabus06> soundray right, I got past that problem but now when I type "doom" it still dosen't work (the sound doesn't work, and I have to reboot for it to work even if I type it in the prompt"
[01:06] <brenner> _max_: oh, sorry. must've missed the start of your thread.  i didn't know you were talking about terminals :)
[01:07] <redguy> anyone knows of a good movie subtitling program for linux?
[01:07] <_max_> :)
[01:07] <redguy> all I could find is some sourceforge projects... :/
[01:08] <_max_> and last but not least.. Does anyone know a mail client that can work as a replacement for Outlook, being able to add meatings that are sent via the server? so if someone calls me to a meeting at 15.00 it will add the meeting to my calendar and warn me 15 minutes ahead?
[01:08] <_max_> Mozillas thunderbird was supposed to get a beta for that in sunfire in november but doesn't seem to have happend.
[01:08] <sorush20> soundray: yes, but there seemes to be a problem with apt-get , I need to fix it using -f but I can't access the internet since ubuntu hasn't loaded yet
[01:08] <balor> _max_, Evolution
[01:08] <soundray> Mabus06, I can't help you with doom3, but if you find a working way to call it from the commandline, you can edit /usr/local/bin/doom accordingly afterwards.
[01:08] <soundray> Mabus06, you've got the shortcut that you asked for :)
[01:08] <_max_> balor : is that an addon for thunderbird or a seperate mail client?
[01:09] <Mabus06> soundray, not really..
[01:09] <Mabus06> soundray, worked the same way if I put it in the "command" part of the shortcut
[01:09] <balor> _max_, it's a mail client for Linux.  It's pretty good, sponsored by Novell
[01:10] <Mabus06> soundray, doom3 is a SH file that calls another file which is probably the game (doomx86 or something)
[01:10] <balor> _max_, http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html
[01:10] <soundray> sorush20, do a 'dpkg --remove klaptopdaemon', if that's the package you want to get rid of.
[01:10] <soundray> Mabus06, so?
[01:10] <balor> _max_, this is more useful http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
[01:11] <Mabus06> soundray, so is the way I could change that file to make it run with those commands maybe? I find it strange that my command works in the command line but not in a shortcut.
[01:11] <_max_> using KDE though so hope it works with kde aswell ;p
[01:12] <_eliphas> !wiki mp3 codec
[01:12] <soundray> Mabus06, are you saying that if you run 'doom3 +set s_driver oss' from a terminal, everything works okay?
[01:12] <Mabus06> soundray, yes
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _eliphas  about mp3
[01:12] <tristan> Mabus06 : then  modify with smeg the command that launch your doom3
[01:12] <gnomefreak> _eliphas,  read what ubotu sent you
[01:12] <soundray> Mabus06, and when you run 'doom', it doesn't?
[01:13] <Mabus06> yes soundray
[01:13] <Mabus06> tristan, tried that before I came here.
[01:13] <tristan> run smeg, choose the doom3 shortcut and click to edit the command that is launched when you click on it
[01:13] <soundray> Mabus06, what does 'which doom' give you?
[01:13] <Mabus06> soundray, same thing that putting "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shortcut does. Doom 3 with no sound.
[01:14] <Mabus06> oh, which doom
[01:14] <Mabus06> ones econd
[01:14] <intelikey> Mabus06 if you can't seem to affect the point and click shortcut in a way that pleases you.  put your command line options in a script and shortcut the script.     'echo "runthis  -withthese options " > script.sh ;chmod 7 script.sh '   and make a short cut to script.sh
[01:14] <Mabus06> /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:14] <soundray> intelikey, that's what we've been trying.
[01:14] <mwe> Mabus06: did you type the full path in the shortcut?
[01:14] <mwe> Mabus06: or just doom?
[01:14] <Mabus06> in what shortcut?
[01:15] <Mabus06> When I type "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in the terminal everything works fine
[01:15] <sorush20> I'm still having the same problem
[01:15] <soundray> sorush20, what have you tried?
[01:15] <Mabus06> if I type "doom" it runs, but with no sound
[01:16] <derek_> HI
[01:16] <Mabus06> Same if I put "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in the command part of the shortcut (same thing as editing through smeg, tristan).
[01:16] <derek_> If Grub fails to install on the MBR and the floppy, which other option should I go for?
[01:17] <balor> derek_, your disk is fecked then or you're on a Mac
[01:17] <Mabus06> intelikey, didn't soundray say we already tried that?
[01:18] <derek_> balor: I'm running windoze on this disk
[01:18] <intelikey> humor me
[01:18] <Mabus06> intelikey, try msging me the contents and I can save it
[01:18] <_eliphas> gnomefreak, thanks mate
[01:19] <_eliphas> sorry was ready the wik about it
[01:19] <gnomefreak> _eliphas,  no problem
[01:19] <_eliphas> I had a memory blank
[01:19] <Mabus06> somebody told me that gnome != linux. What IS linux then?
[01:19] <_eliphas> setting up a new pc at work
[01:19] <_eliphas> and suddenly black hole .... how to enable mp3 already
[01:19] <soundray> Mabus06, strictly Linux is just the kernel.
[01:19] <djk_> Mabus06: linux is the kernel ;)
[01:19] <intelikey> linux is the os    gnome is the desktop environment
[01:20] <intelikey> xorg is the gui
[01:20] <Mabus06> so how do you "use" linux then? like tty1 and stuff?
[01:20] <mt_holden_ss> can some one help me, i want to access my linux partition from windows, i can access my windows partitipn right now
[01:21] <soundray> Mabus06, mostly it's the programs you are running that 'use' Linux.
[01:21] <intelikey> if you boot ubuntu you use linux for everything that you do in ub\
[01:21] <Mabus06> intelikey, the transfer failed, can you message me the contents so I can save it myself?
[01:22] <intelikey> #!/bin/bash
[01:22] <soundray> Mabus06, show intelikey the contents of /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:22] <intelikey> doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:22] <intelikey> be sure to chmod it to 755
[01:22] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:22] <soundray> intelikey, that is precisely what we've created on Mabus06's machine already.
[01:22] <sorush20> how can I find out what are being loaded up at start up and how can I enable and disable them from loading at start up?
[01:22] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: last time i used it though, copying directories was rather tedious
[01:23] <intelikey> and it runs from the commandline but not from the click methood ?
[01:23] <EtnaRosso> firefox1.5 hot to?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ok now if i can set robocode up :(
[01:23] <soundray> intelikey, exactly.
[01:23] <Mabus06> intelikey, /usr/local/bin/doom = #!/bin/sh
[01:23] <Mabus06>  doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:23] <soundray> intelikey, it's as if it ignored the parameters when called from a script.
[01:23] <intelikey> in a browser dubble click the file
[01:24] <intelikey> that file /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:24] <gnomefreak> anyone ever use robocode on ubuntu?
[01:25] <Mabus06> yes intelikey
[01:25] <mt_holden_ss> wat about putting files from linux to my xp partition, it wont let me
[01:25] <mt_holden_ss> u all from australia?
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> mt_holden_ss: no writing to ntfs
[01:25] <intelikey> and is works or not Mabus06 ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> its a .jar file and i try to run it java robocode-setup-1.0.7.jar  not run it install it
[01:25] <Mabus06> intelikey, not... that's my problem
[01:25] <derek_> balor: sorry, accidently closed the window
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> mt_holden_ss: qute a few are, but lots from the states
[01:26] <soundray> intelikey, it runs doom3, but without sound, right Mabus06?
[01:26] <derek_> balor: so why do you think the disk is not right?
[01:26] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: open explore2fs, then open windows explorer, then drag and drop
[01:26] <tristan> Yes. OK, for those who remember my trouble using smeg, I found what was the trouble
[01:26] <Mabus06> yes soundray, intelikey
[01:26] <intelikey> from the command line you can type  '/usr/local/bin/doom'  and it does work ?
[01:26] <intelikey> something smells fishy
[01:26] <tristan> My .config in my /home/myname was only in root permission so it seems that smeg couldn't update my menus
[01:27] <Mabus06> intelikey, haven't tried that, but "doom3 +set s_driver oss" does work
[01:27] <soundray> intelikey, no, what works from the command line is doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:27] <gnomefreak> even the bot dont know jar :(
[01:27] <Mabus06> which is the contents of /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:27] <mt_holden_ss> oh so i didnt have to delete wat i just did
[01:27] <intelikey> Mabus06  '/usr/local/bin/doom '
[01:27] <mt_holden_ss> doesnt matter i am gunna re-boot into windows and re-download
[01:28] <intelikey> and make sure the script will start it correctly.      'always exec a script before you call it finished....'
[01:28] <Mabus06> intelikey, once the game launches without sound, even if I close the program again I have to reboot in order to get it to work by typing "doom3 +set s_driver oss" again.
[01:28] <Mabus06> else even that command will make it run with no sound
[01:29] <vbgunz> soundray: you played doom3 on Linux and on Windows?
[01:29] <soundray> vbgunz, no, neither.
[01:29] <intelikey> so test the script from the command line.   by typing  '/usr/local/bin/doom '   and if it works then it should work from the 'point and click'  thingy
[01:29] <vbgunz> soundray: oh
[01:29] <Mabus06> intelikey, "should work"... what good is that? :D
[01:30] <vbgunz> intelikey: you played doom3 on Win and Lin?
[01:30] <Mabus06> I played it on both, and on xbox
[01:30] <intelikey> if it wont work from the command line it should not work from the point and click thingy either....
[01:30] <Mabus06> well it doesn't work from the point and click thingy, doesn't that say something already?
[01:31] <raz879> I-N-T-E-L-I-K-E-Y: hi
[01:31] <Mabus06> ok brb, I'll try it intelikey, but if it doesn't work I have to reboot probably
[01:31] <intelikey> yeah says you are tired of messing with it.
[01:31] <soundray> Mabus06, I suspect doom3 is messing with your sound devices or something.
[01:32] <soundray> sorush20, how are you getting on?
[01:33] <Mabus06> soundray, yes it is working from the command line
[01:33] <intelikey> Mabus06 you typed it in terminal and it works ?
[01:33] <soundray> Mabus06, does it work if you enter doom after Alt-F2?
[01:33] <intelikey> or console ?
[01:34] <intelikey> there is a differance in terminal and console
[01:35] <Mabus06> intelikey, the script works if I type it in the terminal, but not from a shortcut. Same with the command itself that the script runs.
[01:35] <intelikey> terminal or console ?
[01:35] <Mabus06> Although, neither work after trying it from a shortcut. I have to reboot in order for the command to work.
[01:35] <Mabus06> So should I reboot before trying it from alt-f2 (is that console?)
[01:35] <intelikey> that is console
[01:35] <soundray> Mabus06, instead of rebooting, try killall doom3
[01:36] <Mabus06> soundray, I tried killall doom3 -v and it said no doom3 process killed
[01:36] <intelikey> sudo that
[01:36] <Mabus06> same
[01:36] <soundray> Mabus06, since doom3 is just a shell script, you might have to kill Doom 3 by another name.
[01:36] <Mabus06> oh ok
[01:36] <soundray> Mabus06, find out with ps ax
[01:37] <intelikey> i bet its leaving some sound app running......
[01:37] <soundray> intelikey, isn't there some trick with lsof?
[01:37] <marky> mahlzeit
[01:38] <marky> its all in english here?
[01:38] <Mabus06> soundray, doom 3 is a shell that calls doom.x86
[01:38] <Mabus06> killall doom.x86 kills nothing
[01:38] <Mabus06> same with killall doom
[01:38] <soundray> Yeah, marky, for German, /join #ubuntu-de
[01:38] <intelikey> yeah lsof would probably find it if you had a clue what to look for
[01:39] <marky> how do i make this?
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, killall doom.x86 ?
[01:39] <Mabus06> killall doom.x86 kills nothing
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, sudo killall doom.x86 ?
[01:39] <Mabus06> same
[01:39] <intelikey> Mabus06 'ps ax |grep doom'
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, 'doom' in terminal - sound?
[01:40] <intelikey> or better yet paste you ps ax
[01:40] <Mabus06>  8788 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep doom
[01:40] <Mabus06> that's all that's outputted
[01:40] <Mabus06> haven't tried, soundray... I'd have to reboot to try it anyway
[01:41] <soundray> Mabus06, I think you've managed to kill it.
[01:41] <Mabus06> or if I did I can't remember
[01:41] <Mabus06> soundray, I haven't killed anything
[01:41] <soundray> Mabus06, there might still be a process hogging the sound device.
[01:41] <Mabus06> I already tried all this before
[01:41] <Mabus06> it seems to be the shortcut that has the problem
[01:41] <intelikey> that's what i said/   paste your     ps ax
[01:42] <Mabus06> paste my ax
[01:43] <soundray> intelikey, not here.
[01:43] <intelikey> no    ps ax
[01:43] <mbn18> where i can set the locale ?
[01:43] <mbn18> i mean not thrugh the shell
[01:43] <raz879> hi, sorry to bother u guys, im new to linux and i've tried playing with it.. is there any possible way to upgrade from  one version to the other without reinstalling everyting?
[01:43] <raz879> and not loosing all the custom things u've done?
[01:43] <intelikey> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:43] <intelikey> oooops
[01:43] <soundray> mbn18, when you login via gdm.
[01:43] <Mabus06> not in here I take it
[01:43] <Mabus06> oh right, pastebin
[01:43] <Mabus06> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:44] <Mabus06> that was px ax intelikey
[01:44] <Mabus06> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296
[01:44] <intelikey> i see three linst of it.
[01:44] <brenner> raz879: i assume you mean hoary to breezy?
[01:44] <intelikey>  BitchX: Auto-ignoring Mabus06 for 10 minutes [MSG flood]
[01:45] <Mabus06> oh...
[01:45] <Mabus06> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296
[01:45] <Mabus06> read that
[01:45] <Mabus06> if auto-ignore means he can't hear me right now, can someone else tell him "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296"
[01:45] <intelikey> looking
[01:45] <Mabus06> ok
[01:46] <intelikey> it only ignored your /msg
[01:47] <derek_> Can GRUB be installation be left during the base installation and installed sometime else?
[01:47] <intelikey> have you tried killing esd
[01:47] <Mabus06> yes
[01:47] <derek_> ok. If I don't install any bootloader, how can I boot into Linux?
[01:47] <intelikey> derek_ if you can boot ub from another boot loader you don't need grub at all
[01:48] <derek_> will booting from the installl-cd boot the installed linux??
[01:48] <gnomefreak> derek_, bootlader doesnt get installed it gets placed
[01:48] <raz879> hi, brenner, umm didn't get what u mean.. i mean every distribution releases new versions of their software from time to time, how
[01:48] <raz879> or would it be possible to install linux as an upgrade?
[01:48] <raz879> im just starting to learn linux..
[01:48] <reign> anyone know how to give a network card a specific io ?
[01:48] <intelikey> derek_ no it will boot the installer
[01:48] <derek_> gnomefreak: during the installation it said "installation"
[01:48] <derek_> hm
[01:48] <derek_> damn
[01:49] <soundray> reign, depends on the driver.
[01:49] <intelikey> Mabus06 'sudo killall esd '   and run  '/usr/local/games/doom'  from the terminal.   not the console.
[01:49] <brenner> raz879: well, i'm not sure if you mean upgrading your entire distribution, or just individual applications
[01:49] <soundray> reign, if the driver supports it, it's usually insmod io=0x300 or similar.
[01:50] <soundray> reign, sorry, insmod drivername io=0x300
[01:50] <Mabus06> no such file or directory soundray
[01:50] <derek_> so how will I run linux if I don't install a bootloader?
[01:50] <soundray> Mabus06, when you do what?
[01:50] <Mabus06> soundray, "/usr/local/games/doom"
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, /usr/local/bin/doom is where you saved it.
[01:51] <raz879> brenner: i mean upgrading from one version to another.. lets say version 4 to version 5..? if i run version 5 setup again, would it overwrite all the things i've done in version 4?
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, should be in your path, so just 'doom' is enough.
[01:51] <Mabus06> soundray, that's what he told me to run
[01:51] <intelikey> derek_ you can boot the installer and when it gets to the setting up partitions step    alt+f2  and  run mount /dev/yourubpartition.. /media ' and chroot /media grub-install   if needed.
[01:51] <Mabus06> intelikey, that is
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, sorry confuse, who is he?
[01:52] <intelikey> well where ever that script you made is....
[01:52] <Mabus06> soundray, intelikey.... join #doom3
[01:52] <Mabus06> please
[01:52] <Mabus06> okay, will do intelikey
[01:52] <derek_> intelikey: /dev/yourubpartition ..you mean "/" ?
[01:53] <intelikey> no
[01:53] <intelikey> the device node.
[01:53] <derek_> yea, where "/" will be mounted?
[01:53] <derek_> cuz I'll be creating a separate partition for /home
[01:53] <intelikey> fdisk -l  will tell you which partition number / is on.
[01:53] <Mabus06> intelikey, /usr/local/bin/doom is where the script is, and it works if typed in the terminal
[01:53] <brenner> raz879: ok, you mean individual apps i guess ... depends how you upgrade, but yes, files will usually get overwritten, *but* your old config files may still be servicable
[01:54] <brenner> at least, in my experience they mostly have been
[01:54] <derek_> intelikey: /dev/yourubpartition -- by this you mean mount "/" ?
[01:54] <derek_> intelikey: /media -- ?
[01:55] <intelikey> Mabus06 are you sure that if you open nautilus and up arrow to / and enter that /usr folder and then the /local folder and then the /bin folder and dubble click the file doom that it does not work ?
[01:56] <sorush20> is there any way that I can enable or disable boot up daemons from the command line?
[01:56] <Mabus06> intelikey, am I "sure"? no, never tried it
[01:57] <intelikey> derek_    the mount command works like this.   ' mount /dev/hda5 /media '   where  hda is the first hard disk on ide and #5 is a partition number    /media is a mount point  "folder or direstory"
[01:57] <soundray> sorush20, I'd like to help, but you don't respond when I ask you questions.
[01:57] <Mabus06> intelikey, it does work
[01:57] <intelikey> Mabus06 that was what i asked you to do when we first started this.
[01:57] <intelikey> ok
[01:58] <Mabus06> intelikey, oh well I don't remember what I tried, but pretty much anything works except the shortcut
[01:58] <MartySkitch> I'm having problems with tightvnc and fluxbox - when I open a xterm in then vncviewer the host computer's memory is completely used up.  Using Breezy but same setup works great on Hoary
[01:58] <sorush20> soundray: I'm ready to resopodn
[01:58] <nat> hi
[01:58] <intelikey> Mabus06 it doesnt to click on the script in nautilus  you say ?
[01:58] <nat> i've a pb with my network interface
[01:59] <Mabus06> intelikey, it does I said
[01:59] <nat> http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/32099
[01:59] <soundray> sorush20, have you booted your machine now?
[01:59] <raz879> brenner: ic.. thanks! :)
[01:59] <intelikey> then drag and drop that thing to your desktop and be done with it.
[01:59] <nat> why i don't have a defalut ip of <IP_ADDRESS> in my lo
[01:59] <nat> and how can i add it ?
[01:59] <sorush20> yes Ive loaded the recovery kernel and I'm at the terminal command line as root..
[01:59] <intelikey> that was where i started an hour ago.
[02:00] <nat> because for the moment i ve to put it every time i switch on my pc
[02:00] <derek_> alt+f2 takes to the shell?
[02:00] <brenner> raz879: yw
[02:00] <soundray> intelikey, are you referring to sorush?
[02:01] <intelikey> no Mabus06 soundray
[02:01] <sorush20> soundray: I keep trying to fix the apt-get install -f but I get the message that the linux image has to be removed, which is not recommmended so I'm not going to remove the information.
[02:01] <soundray> sorush20, leave apt-get aside for now.
[02:01] <soundray> sorush20, do you know which package you want to remove?
[02:02] <intelikey> derek_ yes
[02:02] <derek_> ok
[02:02] <derek_> If I want to use only the Partitioner of Ubuntu Install
[02:02] <derek_> Can I?
[02:02] <sorush20> soundray: no I don't I do know that the daemon fails to load fully or even just fail since it hangs and computer freezes ..
[02:02] <derek_> (I got the live cd)
[02:02] <Mabus06> got it working now. thanks intelikey, soundray
[02:03] <intelikey> derek_ then use the live cd my all means it will make it easier on you.
[02:03] <soundray> sorush20, do you know which daemon that is?
[02:03] <intelikey> Mabus06 your'e welcome.  sorry if i chewed on ya.
[02:04] <ZoZo-> Hello, how can you change access on a mounted ntfs disk from root to another user? =)
[02:04] <Mabus06> intelikey, nope, no bite marks
[02:04] <intelikey> :)
[02:04] <dorto> i get this error when ubuntu starts: "GDM could not write to your authorization file. This could mean that your home directory could not be opened..."
[02:04] <dorto> how do i fix that?
[02:05] <derek_> intelikey: how can I use the "partitioner" ?
[02:05] <intelikey> but i do get edgy when someone says 'no it didn't work'   'no that don't work'   and then an hour later i find out they never tried it.
[02:05] <intelikey> gkparted  i think it's called derek_
[02:05] <derek_> ok
[02:05] <derek_> let me reboot using the live cd
[02:06] <intelikey> i hope he knows what he's doing.
[02:06] <soundray> sorush20, sorry, were you saying something while I popped out for a minute?
[02:06] <sorush20> soundray: yes I think I don , and also it hing I know what your saying.. however all i can see is that *Checking battery state... OK, then the system freezes.. I think its another daemon that is failing
[02:07] <soundray> sorush20, can you find any error messages in /var/log/syslog around the time of the freeze?
[02:08] <seb__> tach
[02:09] <sorush20> soundray: I'll check now
[02:10] <intelikey> sorush20 can you boot that box to safemode/recovery/single or something like that so you can access the files and use grep ?      if so  'grep -Hie"Checking battery state" /etc/rcS.d/* '  and tell us what is posting that message then we will see about skipping the folling process.
[02:11] <ZoZo-> How do you edit /etc/fstab so that any user can mount and umount a hdd?
[02:11] <R0bNyc> Hello , how can i get kde 3.5 on ubuntu/kubuntu breezy?
[02:11] <intelikey> ZoZo-  add  user  to the line
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> R0bNyc, kubuntu comes with kde
[02:11] <soundray> intelikey, he has booted the recovery option and that works.
[02:11] <R0bNyc> wickedpuppy, yes i know
[02:11] <ZoZo-> intelikey, How? ;D
[02:11] <R0bNyc> but not kde 3.5
[02:11] <soundray> intelikey, he is checking /var/log/syslog right now.
[02:11] <intelikey> example; /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto defaults,users,noauto,ro,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
[02:11] <quacker> R0bNyc, I believe you'd have to deinstall kde-base, etc., and compile it from src.  =(
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, can I leave sorush20 to you? I have to go.
[02:12] <intelikey> errrr that should be user not users
[02:12] <R0bNyc> quacker, i already did that on gentoo .. emerge -uD world lol
[02:12] <quacker> man apt-get
[02:12] <quacker> man dpkg
[02:12] <quacker> man debconf
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, please :)
[02:12] <intelikey> soundray yeah not sure i can fix him but i'll try
[02:12] <quacker> Those are your tools.
[02:12] <sorush20> intelikey: soundraythanks,
[02:12] <sorush20> intelikey: Iam in the recovery mode I will be going what you just said.
[02:12] <intelikey> k
[02:13] <soundray> intelikey, thanks. sorush20, good luck...
[02:13] <quacker> No emerge, rpm, or yam on Ubuntu, AFAIK.
[02:13] <BigKahuna> Does anybody have a TV tuner card working with breezy? I'm not looking to set up MythTV but would like to be able to watch TV with my TV tuner card. I have a hauppauge PVR150 which apparently is not compatible with TvTime.  Any suggestions as to what else I can use?
[02:14] <eeaaxx> is it possible to upgrade hoary to breezy using only the installation CD?
[02:14] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I have a Hauppauge card, works well with mplayer
[02:14] <intelikey> eeaaxx no
[02:14] <quacker> Bigfrans, check out the V4L website (Video for Linux) -- I'm afraid you'll hvae to search the web for it as I don't have the site memorized (you might try v4l.com |~.org)
[02:14] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, You just became my new best friend.
[02:14] <intelikey> !upgrade to breezy
[02:14] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:15] <eeaaxx> intelikey: just reinstall it?
[02:15] <quacker> Also the DRI project and Gatos have thirdpaarty capture drivers from some cards (like my Radeon All-In-WOnder)
[02:15] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, What hauppauge card do you have?
[02:15] <intelikey> yes or if you have fast inet upgrade via apt-get
[02:15] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I think xawtv and zapping do also work, but since I can watch and record with mplayer (and mencoder) I stay with them
[02:15] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[02:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:15] <v9> hi
[02:15] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I am not sure, a pretty old one, maybe 5 years old
[02:15] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, you are using the IVTV driver I presume?
[02:16] <eeaaxx> ubotu: ok
[02:16] <ubotu> eeaaxx: Wish i knew
[02:16] <sorush20> intelikey: how can I get out of vim?
[02:16] <quacker> Errr, sorry BigKahuna, I called you Bigfrans
[02:16] <gnomefreak> exit
[02:16] <intelikey> sorush20 :q
[02:17] <BigKahuna> quacker, No worries, thanks for the tip.
[02:17] <intelikey> or [esc]  :!q
[02:17] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I am not sure about driver. I have not choosen anything explicitely. Just installed mplayer and using mplayer... can give you the (long) command line private...
[02:17] <gnomefreak> #java=no help they never heard of their own programs :(
[02:17] <BigKahuna> quacker, You have a hauppauge card installed?
[02:17] <dorto> what do i need to do to fix this error:  "GDM could not write to your authorization file. This could mean that your home directory could not be opened..."
[02:17] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, Did the ubuntu installation automatically config the card for you?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> dorto,  what was the command you used?
[02:18] <dorto> can i edit /etc/inittab to boot into console and then create a new user? can i boot into console when home directory is not writable?
[02:18] <dorto> gnomefreak: i got that error when ubuntu started
[02:18] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: yes, it must have... I am just using the same command line as I did in Fedore Core 4... so it must have worked directly...
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:18] <quacker> BigKahuna, I've got an original ATI Radeon AIW
[02:19] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning
[02:19] <intelikey> dorto you can boot to console by adding single to the grub boot command
[02:19] <quacker> And, no, it's not installed on Ubuntu (yet) -- on my todo list for before the holidays.
[02:19] <sorush20> m
[02:20] <intelikey> dorto you can remove the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc2.d if you always want to boot to console
[02:20] <quacker> I found a good howto writeen by a user that claims to have done it using the DRI Project's capture driver and bookmarked it though.
[02:20] <sorush20> get out of vim
[02:21] <dorto> intelikey: when grub bootloader comes, i need to press e and type 'boot single'?
[02:21] <intelikey> dorto yes
[02:21] <dorto> intelikey: will it be able to boot even if my home directory is unwriteable as the error above says?
[02:21] <intelikey> or edit the boot line then just boot
[02:22] <intelikey> yes single is root not your home user
[02:22] <dorto> oh, good
[02:22] <dorto> thx intelikey :)
[02:22] <dorto> will reboot now
[02:22] <sorush20> hi
[02:23] <svaksha> hi all
[02:23] <intelikey> methinks sorush20 rebooted to get out of vim
[02:24] <svaksha> the resolv.conf file gets rewritten ever half hour, can some one help with this
[02:24] <ZoZo-> How come I cant copy files from a windows ntfs disk to my linux disk ? =(
[02:24] <gnomefreak> lol intelikey
[02:24] <sorush20> intelikey: how did you know I rebooted?
[02:24] <quacker> svaksha, install a cacheing DNS proxy if you want more control of name resolution
[02:24] <neurocyte> svaksha, are you using dhcp?
[02:24] <sorush20> also In the error log I get the message that kdm fireup is failing
[02:25] <quacker> what is kdm fireup?
[02:25] <derek_> hola
[02:25] <svaksha> yes, dhcp.. the problem persists even after editing /etc/network/interfaces address, netmask and gw
[02:25] <sorush20> intelikey: what was the last thing you said I should do?
[02:25] <derek_> intelikey, can you help with partitioning now? I'm running ubuntu live
[02:25] <intelikey> sorush20 can you boot that box to safemode/recovery/single or something like that so you can access the files and use grep ?      if so  'grep -Hie"Checking battery state" /etc/rcS.d/* '  and tell us what is posting that message then we will see about skipping the folling process.
[02:25] <quacker> you can use shorewall or firestarter if you're looking for an easy to use 'personal firewall' UI.
[02:25] <intelikey> that ^
[02:26] <quacker> Bastille if you want something more 'concise'.
[02:26] <intelikey> derek_ sure  what are you wanting to do ?
[02:26] <allison_1984> I need some help with the format type ? anyone :)
[02:26] <brenner> ZoZo-: where are you trying to copy to?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> quacker,  last i heard shorewall was no where near easy :(
[02:26] <intelikey> tell me the desired end and we'll see if we cant find a way to get there
[02:26] <ZoZo-> brenner, From a mounted ntfs disk to /home/zozo/desktop
[02:26] <quacker> svaksha, what exactly is the problem -- what is it that is not working?  Are webpages not resolving,
[02:27] <derek_> intelikey, I would like to set up the partitions for ubuntu install here
[02:27] <neurocyte> svaksha, you need to tweak your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:27] <quacker> gnomefreak, I have it and you know how lame I am!
[02:27] <testmachine> tweak?
[02:27] <testmachine> just edit
[02:27] <testmachine> :P
[02:27] <gnomefreak> firestarter is a good gui for the iptables
[02:27] <testmachine> its not tweaking its just edditing
[02:27] <testmachine> *grin*
[02:27] <quacker> (I prefer Bastille-interactive though)
[02:27] <intelikey> ok derek_ to you have any unallocated disk space ?
[02:27] <quacker> All these things are just iptables wrappers anyhow.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> hell im still trying to figure out sendmail :(
[02:27] <svaksha> neuro: what entries do i put there
[02:27] <ttf> hi all - can anybody tell me what kind of boot loader ubuntu is using on their livecd's?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:27] <intelikey> gkparted  i think is the partitioner
[02:28] <brenner> ZoZo-: my guess is you need to tweak the mounting settings for the ntfs partition
[02:28] <Toma-> can you make metacity windows snap to edges?
[02:28] <derek_> intelikey, yes.. plus I'd like to drop some partitions and used the total free to create appropriate partitions
[02:28] <frogzoo> hey reign any luck ?
[02:28] <ZoZo-> brenner, Even if I just want the information from the disk?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> quacker, i though shorewall was its own firewall it didnt use the iptables in kernel
[02:28] <intelikey> ok derek_ is it ide drive ?
[02:28] <allison_1984> which format is the best to retrieve a partiton that is ntfs....extended 2/ extended 3/ reiserfs / swap ?
[02:28] <sorush20> intelikey: I've just typed that command in  I don't know what to read there are log success messages and other messages.
[02:28] <willii> hello all trying to use command sudo alien --to-deb driver-ipn2220-<IP_ADDRESS>4-lark.i586.rpm in breezy badger the driver is there I know here is what I get andy108@heis:~$ cd /etc/dffd
[02:28] <willii> andy108@heis:/etc/dffd$ sudo alien --to-deb driver-ipn2220-<IP_ADDRESS>4-lark.i586.rpm
[02:28] <willii> Password:
[02:28] <willii> Sorry, try again.
[02:28] <willii> Password:
[02:28] <derek_> yes intelikey
[02:28] <willii> File "driver-ipn2220-<IP_ADDRESS>4-lark.i586.rpm" not found.
[02:28] <willii> andy108@heis:/etc/dffd$
[02:28] <frogzoo> will nuff with the spam already
[02:29] <gnomefreak> willii,  dont paste in here
[02:29] <spola> what are some of the better p2p clients i need if i want to download stuff ?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell willii about paste
[02:29] <willii> sorry about that
[02:29] <frogzoo> spola: azureus is excellent - emule v good
[02:29] <intelikey> sorush20 we are looking for the filename in /etc/rcS.d/ that spits out that message.
[02:29] <spola> frogzoo, thx
[02:29] <brenner> ZoZo-: *nod* think so.  someone told  another guy to do that when he couldn't copy stuff over. i could be wrong though
[02:29] <allison_1984> I want to grab back a partition that has been assigned for windows to ubuntu !
[02:29] <neurocyte> svaksha, depends on what you want it to do (or not do)
[02:29] <Toma-> spola: what network do you want to connect to?
[02:29] <quacker> SHOREWALL(8)                                                                                SHOREWALL(8)
[02:29] <quacker> NAME
[02:29] <quacker>  shorewall - the Shoreline firewall, an iptables based firewall
[02:30] <allison_1984> which format is the best to retrieve a partiton that is ntfs....extended 2/ extended 3/ reiserfs / swap ?
[02:30] <quacker> grrr -- stupid klipboard
[02:30] <ZoZo-> brenner, If I dont have any clue at all how to tweak the mounting settings.. What should I do then ? ^
[02:30] <gnomefreak> quacker,  ok maybe it does use the kernels iptables than
[02:30] <frogzoo> oooh.. rude words in kanji
[02:30] <intelikey> derek_ ok then in a terminal type 'sudo gkparted /dev/hda '    and see what it does.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> or has its own set i dont know scared to use it
[02:30] <spola> Toma-, well i have nicotine now which basically has everything i want, but my gf wants to listen to mainstream stuff so i need something popular :p
[02:31] <allison_1984> I need some help with the format type ? anyone :)
[02:31] <Toma-> spola: gtk-gnutella or limewire is an exellent option
[02:31] <allison_1984> spola > love nicotine ...  :)
[02:31] <intelikey> sorush20 did you find it ?
[02:31] <claes> A little question. Anyone tried Fedora Directory Server on ubuntu?
[02:31] <brenner> ZoZo-: i'm no expert on it myself :-/ chuck your /etc/fstab output onto the pastebin i guess as a start
[02:31] <derek_> sudo: gkparted: command not found
[02:31] <sorush20> intelikey: I think its the hotplug subsytem that is failing not the battery cecking status, because the battery check gets and OK at the end of it..
[02:31] <quacker> allison_1984, I highly recommend you use Ext3 and nothign else unless you have a special purpose in mind
[02:32] <sorush20> intelikey: I think I need to fix the hotplug system
[02:32] <spola> d i need some extra repositories for azureus, gtk-gnutella and limewire  ?
[02:32] <frogzoo> allison_1984: quacker ditto - - ext3
[02:32] <ZoZo-> brenner, Okay.. Ill see if I can do anything :p Another thing though.. To get access to /home/zozo/D, that is mounted with root, with my ordinary user.. How should I do then..? A friend told me to do chmod 777 /home/zozo/D but that did not work neither =/
[02:32] <quacker> And stay away from ReiserFS like the plague in any case -- it's still significantly unstable.  I and several people I know have lost entire partitions because of it.
[02:32] <allison_1984> quacker > I want that partition to be able to store media files..instead of the /home file ......
[02:33] <intelikey> ok you can comment out that section sorush20 if it is in the same file,  else  "rm /etc/rcS.d/*hotplug "   and boot and see what happens.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> who lost a partion and how?
[02:33] <derek_> intelikey, sudo: gkparted: command not found
[02:33] <quacker> allison_1984, you can put anything you want on most filesytsems.  What are you trying to do -- change the mount point (what it's root directory is called in the filesystem)?
[02:33] <brenner> ZoZo-: hang on, you can't even get access to the dirs in /home/zozo?  maybe that's causing the ntfs copy failure
[02:33] <allison_1984> frogzoo > well I am getiing it back to Ubuntu !
[02:33] <frogzoo> allison_1984: unless you have very special needs - ext3 (and you're not running a server, so ext3 it is)
[02:34] <ZoZo-> brenner, Cant get access to it with zozo.. Only with root..
[02:34] <willii> how to make breezy badger 5.10 more secure on a unsecure wireless network?
[02:34] <intelikey> derek_ ok do  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '   it should be on the live cd.
[02:34] <allison_1984> quacker > /dev/hda5
[02:34] <quacker> allison_1984, there are several optimizations you can make if you intend to write very large files
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell willii about wpa
[02:34] <allison_1984> quacker > what's the best according to you ?
[02:34] <quacker> allison_1984, that is not your mount point -- that is the name of the device as seen in Linux.
[02:34] <frogzoo> willii: install firestarter install tripwire turn off unneeded services
[02:35] <brenner> ZoZo-: then yeah, something to do with chmod or chown.  i don't really know. :-/  time to defer to other people.  sorry
[02:35] <allison_1984> quacker > so what should I be doing ?
[02:35] <derek_> intelikey,
[02:35] <quacker> allison_1984, You can choose anything (directory name) you want and mount it anywhere underneath root
[02:35] <derek_> FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive
[02:35] <derek_>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:35] <ZoZo-> brenner, Thanks alot with the help anyway :)
[02:35] <allison_1984> quacker > should I also indicate a mount point to /boot ?
[02:35] <cyhatch> spola: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76700 ?
[02:35] <intelikey> allison_1984 what is in   /dev  is the device node    the mount point is listed in /etc/fstab
[02:35] <derek_> intelikey, a moment ago I was running windows on the same disk
[02:35] <ZoZo-> How do I "chown" so I get access with my normal user on a root mounted hdd/map please?
[02:36] <sorush20> intelikey: could you give me the command line again please?
[02:36] <allison_1984> quacker > mount point is the point of access..if I understood correctly ?
[02:36] <willii> thanks frogzoo I take a look at that
[02:36] <quacker> allison_1984, you don't have to, but you can -- again it's up to you.  Will you be installing GRUB, LILO, ELILO, SILO, or MBR in the master boot record?
[02:36] <quacker> allison_1984, yes
[02:36] <intelikey> derek_ yes  hda is the disk with all the partitions on it.
[02:36] <derek_> intelikey, why that fatal error?
[02:36] <intelikey> "rm /etc/rcS.d/*hotplug "
[02:36] <frogzoo> quacker: lilo? the pain... the pain....
[02:37] <intelikey> fatal error ?
[02:37] <derek_> FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive
[02:37] <derek_>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:37] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[02:37] <quacker> i.e. $ mount -loop -iso9660 /dev/sdb /media/cdrom -ro
[02:37] <willii> general point here I was in a new internet cafe in central london uk and they had breezy badger on all computers  wow
[02:37] <intelikey> derek_ 'sudo fdisk -l '   and find out what the address is.
[02:37] <allison_1984> quacker > the thing is I have a dual boot and I had formatted this partition with ntfs on windows....now I want to utilise it with the Ubuntu OS .....
[02:38] <quacker> mounts your second SCSI device using the ISO 9660 filesystem at the  _MOUNT_POINT_ /media/cdrom
[02:38] <derek_> intelikey,
[02:38] <derek_> sudo fdisk -l
[02:38] <derek_> Unable to seek on /dev/hda
[02:38] <allison_1984> quacker > I have grub in the mbr
[02:38] <quacker> allison_1984, GRUB is a really good bet then
[02:39] <allison_1984> quacker > I run ubuntu almost exclusively now !!
[02:39] <brenner> willii: awesome
[02:39] <quacker> The Debian Sarge (Ubuntu Breezy) installer script for GRUB will scan all the storage devices it can find for other OSes and add them to a bootstarp menu which it will create in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[02:40] <jdky_> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to uninstall gnome bittorrent without uninstalling gnome-desktop?? it seems that its not possible
[02:40] <intelikey> wow derek_ that looks like the kernel on the live cd is not reading your hdd correctly.          derek_ you can do the partition work from the installer cd.  (assuming it works correctly)   just boot it and select "manuel partitioning"
[02:40] <allison_1984> quacker > I am in the disks manager menu
[02:40] <derek_> intelikey, select where?
[02:41] <intelikey> sorush20 progress ?
[02:41] <Toma-> jdky_: gnome-desktop is just a meta-package. wont remove gnome or anything else at all
[02:41] <spola> thank you cyhatch
[02:41] <FontPolice> quick question : where do the init scripts log to?
[02:41] <snorks> How come Ubuntu doesn't have make?
[02:41] <intelikey> derek_ when it askes about partitioning ?    it will ask erase entire disk , or manuel partitionling
[02:41] <jdky_> Toma, ok, that sounds good, could you explain me more of  this please
[02:41] <ZoZo-> How do you give access on a partition to another user from root? chown something ? :S
[02:41] <quacker> You can edit it with a text editor, and before doing that you can edit the arguments it passes by escaping the GRUB boot sequence by pressing 'p' (if you have a password) or 'e' to edit and following the instructions thereafter.  This is done to test boot arguments without changing the file GRUB reads them into memory from (menu.1st) to make sure they won't *#^$ your machine.
[02:42] <Toma-> jdky_: just use synaptic to remove it
[02:42] <podge> Oh, I would also like to know how to do that...
[02:42] <derek_> intelikey, okay.. but after finishing that step.. (that is after writing the changes to disk), it starts copying the files , which I don't want at the moment
[02:42] <intelikey> FontPolice /var/log/dmesg i think.    type 'dmesg'
[02:42] <jdky_> yes, i mean can you explain me the meta package thing
[02:42] <quacker> allison_1984, are you using he installer partitioner, or qparted from the Live CD?
[02:42] <intelikey> derek_  can i ask why ?
[02:43] <allison_1984> quacker > can I send you a screen shot ?
[02:43] <sorush20> intelikey: no progress I don't know how to stop hotplug subsystem from loading
[02:43] <derek_> intelikey, cuz I have to do something on it then in windows before installing linux
[02:43] <intelikey> derek_ see i'm not getting a clear picture of what you are trying to do.
[02:43] <Neo^> i need help with winetools
[02:43] <quacker> jpg or png okay -- no bmps please
[02:43] <jdky_> Toma, could you what a metapackage is?
[02:43] <allison_1984> quacker > I am in the disks manager/ partitions
[02:43] <quacker> DCC is fine
[02:43] <allison_1984> png
[02:43] <Juhaz> jdky_, meta package is a package that doesn't contain anything, but depends on bunch of other packages as an easy way of installing them all
[02:43] <Toma-> jdky_: well, the meta package 'says' it depends on a whole bunch of other packages, like gnome-applets, gnome-file-manager, but they dont depend on it.
[02:43] <derek_> intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first
[02:43] <FontPolice> how about when you run them after you boot?
[02:43] <Neo^> apt-get cant find it and i have enable all repositories
[02:43] <FontPolice> to restart a service or something.
[02:44] <afd_> hi! I'm looking for cdemu ubuntu package, or a tool that does something similar (mount bin/cue cd images)
[02:44] <quacker> (TYVM for asking first -- you might noit believe how lame some people can be when asking for help -- hehehe)
[02:44] <jdky_> Juhaz and Toma, thank you for the help
[02:44] <intelikey> sorush20 i told you to remove the symlink in /etc/rcS.d/
[02:44] <aftertaf> Neo^:  apt-cache search wine
[02:44] <Toma-> firefox 1.7?
[02:44] <intelikey> derek_ you can do that from the setup disk like i said
[02:44] <quacker> allison_1984, what do you intend to do with the new Ubuntu install?  (video editing?)
[02:45] <intelikey> it will give you free reign over all partition work derek_
[02:45] <derek_> intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:45] <allison_1984> quacker > I am already on it...just loving it.....
[02:45] <sorush20> intelikey: what is the command for it sudo rm /etc/rc5.d/*hotplug
[02:45] <snorks> If you issue an install with ./install blabla, how do I uninstall it?
[02:45] <intelikey> sorush20 yes
[02:45] <snorks> Let's say the vmware player
[02:45] <allison_1984> quacker > been 5 days...and not looking back
[02:45] <allison_1984> :)
[02:46] <Neo^> aftertaf,  this is what i was using .. sudo apt-get install wine winetools  winetools
[02:46] <Toma-> snorks: dont. use 'checkinstall' instead of make install
[02:46] <frogzoo> ok I'm stupid - how do I get gtkwifi to run in my gnome taskbar?
[02:46] <allison_1984> quacker > in fact switched from Suse....got so many headaches there !!
[02:46] <factotum> what does checkinstall do? create a package?
[02:46] <quacker> ZoZo-, chown :<groupname> -R /* then add then the  user to the group (dirty solution)
[02:47] <aftertaf> Neo^:  what does the search show you?
[02:47] <snorks> Toma-: I never used "make install" only "./install".
[02:47] <Toma-> snorks: or, see if the make file contains a make uninstall option
 intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first <---- <intelikey> derek_ you can do that from the setup disk like i said <--- and i asked you why you didn't want it to install after the partition work was done....  but now you say --><derek_> intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:47] <spola> hmmm i still can't find azureus in synaptic even after following the guidelines from the wiki. i uploaded my sources.list here: can someone please take a look to see whats missing ? (i did "select" sun's java instead of gjc's)
[02:47] <sorush20> intelikey: I keep getting no such file or directory
[02:47] <spola> whoops :-) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5303
[02:47] <podge> Hi folks. Just wondering, how do I change permissions on my ntfs partations permissions so that non-root users can access it?
[02:47] <quacker> allison_1984, I'm asking why you want optimization for large media files.
[02:47] <Toma-> well snorks, ./install is a program specific install. read the readme for that program
[02:47] <Neo^> aftertaf,  .. lots lol
[02:47] <snorks> Toma-: ok
[02:47] <intelikey> sorush20 you can check /etc/rc2.d also  it may be in there too
[02:47] <frogzoo> !tell spola about azureus
[02:47] <Neo^> <---kinda new to this stuff
[02:47] <snorks> A lot of your braincells
[02:47] <aftertaf> ahh. try grp tool on the end with a pipe ;)
[02:47] <quacker> You might consider making a RAID if you actually intend to do video editing.
[02:48] <snorks> wrong channel
[02:48] <freemanen> what is udev?
[02:48] <frogzoo> also, you need the multiverse repo
[02:48] <aftertaf> Neo^:  apt-cache search wine |grep tools
[02:48] <SirKillalot> hi, I cannot mount my CDrom drive anymore, there is an error, and if I "dmesg | tail" I get this:
[02:48] <aftertaf> freemanen:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDetection
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.703000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.703000]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.983000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[02:48] <ZoZo-> quacker, Thank you.. I'll see if it works after it changed ownership on every file :p
[02:48] <intelikey> if there is no S##hotplug then hotplug shouldn't be starting at boot. sorush20
[02:48] <sorush20> intelikey: its no where rec1 2 3 4 5 .d
[02:48] <frogzoo> SirKillalot: pls don't spam here - usse pastebin
[02:48] <aftertaf> intelikey:  sorush20   dapper or breezy?
[02:49] <intelikey> sorush20 you did a 'ls /etc/rcS.d/ '  ?
[02:49] <Neo^> that done nuffin
[02:49] <pulver> anyone know where to find cool ubuntu bootsplash screens?
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  then you dont have the package available......
[02:49] <frogzoo> SirKillalot: have you tried rebooting?
[02:49] <intelikey> iirr breezy aftertaf
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  do you have uni/multiverse?
[02:49] <Toma-> pulver: the default one is cool enough :D
[02:49] <Neo^> yes
[02:49] <aftertaf> intelikey:  ah. with 2.6.15 ?
[02:49] <snorks> Which gcc to get?
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  weird.... firget wine then it sux ;P
[02:49] <Neo^> and enabled backports
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: what are you compiling?
[02:50] <aftertaf> !wine
[02:50] <quacker> ZoZo-, understand that chowning entire partitions is not recommended if you are running executeables off of them that need their own groups (like the 'media', 'printers' or 'cdrom' groups taht are made by some implementations of gnome)
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: I got asked for gcc during vmware player install
[02:50] <derek_> intelikey, "and i asked you why you didn't want it to install after the partition work was done.." - derek_ intelikey, cuz I have to do something on it then in windows before installing linux - derek_ intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first
[02:50] <frogzoo> snorks: the stock synaptic one probly unless u have special needs
[02:50] <quacker> But you can 'chain' groups by using groupedit
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: gcc-3.4
[02:50] <pulver> Toma-: lol yea its cool enough just would try something else
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: First I didn't have make, and now I don't have gcc
[02:50] <frogzoo> !build_essentials
[02:50] <ubotu> frogzoo: Are you on ritalin?
[02:50] <quacker> and you can define aliases in yoiur sudoers list too
[02:50] <joachim-n> hi
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: you actually baught vmware?
[02:50] <ZoZo-> quacker, Just trying to get access on them so I can copy them from the ntfs partition to the linux partition..
[02:50] <Toma-> bought
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: No
[02:50] <joachim-n> is there a way to use shred recusively on directories?
[02:50] <pulver> something more blue
[02:51] <frogzoo> snorks: just install build-essential
[02:51] <intelikey> derek_ yeah looks like an impass
[02:51] <ZoZo-> quacker, But.. What if that did'nt work?
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: that's the exact word to apt-get?
[02:51] <quacker> ZoZo-, jsut use dd (or parted | gparted  |qparted) as root
[02:51] <frogzoo> yup
 intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:51] <derek_> intelikey, sorry, "impass"?
[02:51] <intelikey> oooops
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: was that yup for me
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: ?
[02:51] <frogzoo> yup yup
[02:51] <intelikey> that was a bump of the mouse.... sorry.
[02:51] <sorush20> intelikey: aftertaf i'm using breezy
[02:51] <derek_> np
[02:52] <quacker> dd if=targetpath/file of=destination
[02:52] <derek_> anyway, I think I'll try the install cd again
[02:52] <derek_> salut nico
[02:52] <Neo^> !wine
[02:52] <derek_> nico, est-ce que tu es le dessinateur?
[02:52] <sorush20> intelikey: shoudl I do a ls /etc/rc5.d/ now?
[02:52] <snorks> frogzoo: thank you
[02:52] <reign> frogzoo, you back ?
[02:52] <allison_1984> quacker > file transfer is taking eons !
[02:52] <frogzoo> hi reign how's it going?
[02:52] <derek_> nico_, est-ce que tu es le dessinateur?
[02:52] <intelikey> sorush20 yeah look for anything with hot in it's name   :)
[02:52] <frogzoo> !fr
[02:52] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:53] <quacker> ANd ZoZo- you will need FUSE (Files under uSerspacE) as well as NTFSTOOLS
[02:53] <quacker> ubotu, tell ZoZo- about ntfstools
[02:53] <quacker> (I wrote that entry -- heh)
[02:53] <quacker> fusermount ++
[02:54] <quacker> allison_1984, do hdparm
[02:54] <snorks> frogzoo: How come I could use ./install xxxxxx before, but not after I installed build-essential?
[02:54] <quacker> If everything looks normal,then it's just a large file relative to your controller I/O rate
[02:55] <frogzoo> snorks: permission prob? do you need root access?
[02:55] <intelikey> snorks does ./install exist ?
[02:55] <BigKahuna> anyone know when firefox 1.5 will be added to the repos?
[02:55] <reign> good thanks frogzoo
[02:55] <reign> yourself ?
[02:55] <Toma-> BigKahuna: it wont
[02:55] <allison_1984> quacker > what next ?
[02:55] <Toma-> for a while
[02:55] <snorks> intelikey: I just used it, but the installer asked for GCC, so I apt-get build-essential
[02:55] <frogzoo> reign: let's take this off channel - it will go easier methinks
[02:55] <quacker> ZoZo-, ntfstools is available by installing ntfprogs (i.e. $ apt-get install ntfsprogs)
[02:56] <snorks> frogzoo: It worked first. The second time, issuing the exact same command, doesn't work
[02:56] <quacker> allison_1984, I dunno -- where are you?
[02:56] <quacker> (now)
[02:56] <ZoZo-> quacker, Ahh so I dont need to compile it myself... Perfect as I dont have a clue howto :D
[02:56] <frogzoo> snorks: maybe it's already installed?
[02:56] <allison_1984> quacker > right here ! :)
[02:56] <Toma-> snorks: read the official documentation for it
[02:57] <snorks> frogzoo: Not when I had to cancel it because it didn't find gcc
[02:57] <frogzoo> reign: did you fix your problem?
[02:57] <intelikey> snorks all i was asking that for is to point out that ./ means the present working dir.   if the file is not in ./ then ./file wont work.   but you would get a BASH: ./file does not exist message.
[02:57] <frogzoo> snorks: you'll need to redo make config etc - because probly the old makefiles are looking for a diff version gcc
[02:57] <snorks> intelikey: Yep. I'm in the directory, and vmware-install.pl is the file I used ./install on. It worked the first time
[02:58] <quacker> ZoZo-, I gave tyou the package installer command (in the parentheses "("; ")", respectively )
[02:58] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea, thank you :)
[02:58] <Toma-> snorks: youre ment to run ./vmware-install.pl
[02:58] <intelikey> snorks what error you get ?
[02:58] <Toma-> not install
[02:58] <quacker> ZoZo-, you might have to sudo it if you don't have a root shell or login console
[02:59] <snorks> Toma-: Thanks. Lol
[02:59] <snorks> intelikey: It's fixed
[02:59] <Toma-> snorks: log into your account on vmware.com and read the offical documentation :)
[02:59] <snorks> Toma-: Don't need account for vmware player :/ But I'll consider making one. Thanks for the tip
[03:00] <intelikey> now fess up and tell us about 'pebcak'
[03:00] <quacker> ZoZo-, 'ntfsprog' not ntfsprogs -- sorry
[03:00] <Toma-> oic..
[03:00] <quacker> (troglodyte)
[03:00] <frogzoo> reign: I'm wondering how you fixed your problem?
[03:00] <esculapius> hi
[03:01] <esculapius> do you know how to configure
[03:01] <snorks> Toma-: If an install gets interrupted, has it installed whatever prior to point of interrupt?
[03:01] <esculapius> ethernet modem
[03:01] <frogzoo> ethernet modem????
[03:01] <ZoZo-> quacker, ntfsprog did not work but ntfsprogs did.. But now I cant find it :D
[03:01] <frogzoo> esculapius: I think you want pppoeconf
[03:01] <intelikey> cable modem ?
[03:02] <Toma-> snorks: depends. afaik, if the vmware-install script stops, nothing gets installed
[03:02] <quacker> oops -- I better change the wiki
[03:02] <quacker> LOL
[03:02] <Toma-> its all done at the end
[03:02] <snorks> Toma-: Ok, it has :/ There's a /vmware in /etc now
[03:02] <frogzoo> anyone know the procedure to install gtkwifi ?
[03:03] <snorks> Toma-: Is there a way to uninstall it again? After that I'll read and not bug you again
[03:03] <Toma-> run it again with all the right gcc options
[03:03] <intelikey> ok it's all yours.
[03:03] <Lunz> Hi, has anyone successfully installed skype on their Ubuntu system???
[03:03] <Toma-> snorks: dont bother uninstalling, just install it again over the top but with the proper gcc
[03:03] <Toma-> Lunz: yep
[03:03] <quacker> ubotu, forget ntfstools
[03:03] <ubotu> quacker: i forgot ntfstools
[03:04] <Lunz> I've tried and failed Toma
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:04] <ubotu> okay, quacker
[03:04] <Lunz> I've got it going, but my contacts wont load
[03:04] <quacker> oops sawwy
[03:04] <Toma-> Lunz: whats so hard about "sudo apt-get install skype"?
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: Do you know a keyword I can google to read up on that or?
[03:04] <quacker> one more time
[03:04] <Lunz> I'll give that a go.
[03:04] <Lunz> thanx
[03:04] <Toma-> snorks: "vmware player ubuntu host"
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support for Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprogs and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:04] <ubotu> ...but ntfstools is already something else...
[03:04] <frogzoo> !tell snorks about skype
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, forget ntfstools
[03:04] <ubotu> i forgot ntfstools, quacker
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: Since I have no idea how to point to a correct cgg
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: gcc
[03:05] <Toma-> Lunz: you are using the ubuntu package from the repos right?
[03:05] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support for Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprogs and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:05] <Toma-> snorks: "export CC=gcc3.4"
[03:05] <roberto_> hola
[03:05] <roberto_> ho
[03:05] <roberto_> hi
[03:05] <_jason> !ntfstools
[03:05] <ubotu> _jason: Not a clue
[03:06] <_jason> quacker, use "is" not "are"
[03:06] <roberto_> anyone can give me a list of repository ??Thanks :-)
[03:06] <roberto_> apt
[03:06] <quacker> _jason, 'ntfstools' are plural
[03:06] <frogzoo> roberto_: -> synaptic
[03:06] <Lunz> Hey Toma..
[03:06] <Toma-> !universe
[03:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:06] <_jason> ubotu tell roberto_ about easysource
[03:07] <Lunz> the error message that I get is " skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable"
[03:07] <Toma-> hmm
[03:07] <roberto_> thans...
[03:07] <Lunz> that's what I don't understand.
[03:07] <_jason> quacker, i know but ubotu didn't remember it.  Wasn't sure if it accpeted "are" but I guess it does.  Try starting it with a "no".  ubotu, no ntfstools are...
[03:08] <Lunz> it is this set of library files which are preventing me to install skype on my ubuntu
[03:08] <Lunz> could there be any way around it?
[03:08] <quacker> _jason, NM, I just did it in #ubuntu-offtopic, and it worked  =>
[03:08] <Toma-> !info libqt3c102-mt
[03:08] <Toma-> hmm
[03:08] <_jason> quacker, yep seems to be working now
[03:09] <Lunz> event not found is the response when typing in that
[03:09] <Toma-> Lunz: try getting libqt3-mt instead
[03:09] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i remove one nic card that i have eth0 and let my eth1 be there
[03:10] <Toma-> !info libqt3-mt
[03:10] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[03:10] <Lunz> ok
[03:10] <allison_1984> quacker > thanks for the info
[03:11] <Lunz> I've typed in "!info libqt3-mt" and it hasn't found the event... though I'm going to install the file in synaptic pacakge manager.
[03:11] <greatjones> hello, how do i update ubuntu? do i have to burn a cd with the .iso image and then reinstall the OS?
[03:11] <Toma-> Lunz: yeh... the !info thing was just for the irc channel.... not a command
[03:11] <Toma-> greatjones: it'll be the easiest way
[03:11] <osfameron> hi, anyone know how I can get Sound Juicer to rip at full speed?
[03:12] <osfameron> It only goes 1.2x, the drive can handle 10x or more
[03:12] <Lunz> ooh whoops.. ok didn't know that!
[03:12] <Toma-> osfameron: you may need to enable dma
[03:12] <greatjones> thank you toma - will i lose the data i created on my hd?
[03:12] <snorks> Toma-: Where do I define which GCC to use? I have found the documents for the installation
[03:12] <osfameron> Toma-: ooo, cool
[03:12] <osfameron> !dma
[03:12] <Toma-> greatjones: did you make a seperate /home partition when you first installed?
[03:12] <Lunz> yeah Toma those libraries have already been installed.
[03:12] !lilo:*! A small regional server has lost connectivity; affected users, 195
[03:13] <greatjones> i'm not sure, toma - i used the default Ubuntu settings
[03:13] <Jowi> hello all
[03:13] <Toma-> snorks: "export GCC=gcc-3.4
[03:13] <Toma-> arrr woops
[03:13] <Toma-> snorks: "export CC=gcc-3.4"
[03:13] <snorks> Toma-: It doesn't say anything after that + it doesn't work :/
[03:13] <Toma-> greatjones: id say you would loose it all :S unless you back it up to cd or something
[03:14] <Neo^> how can i test my repsitories ?
[03:14] <Toma-> snorks: it wont. just compile it again
[03:14] <Lunz> hmm
[03:14] <Neo^> +o
[03:14] <quacker> allison_1984, did you set your clustersize with the 'useage' option in the Installer's partitioner?
[03:14] <greatjones> ok thank you toma. i wish ubuntu had an automatic update function like windows has
[03:14] <quacker> set it to 'large files'
[03:14] <deltron> greatjones: it does
[03:14] <Lunz> I thought it did greatjones.
[03:14] <Toma-> greatjones: oh, you can. its just a little messy
[03:14] <quacker> You might also try setting it to 'synchronous' i/o transfer mode
[03:14] <quacker> ;-)
[03:15] <deltron> there's auto-apt
[03:15] <greatjones> how do i perform an automatic update?
[03:15] <allison_1984> quacker > no...I am gonna look up some forums.......
[03:15] <deltron> or cron-apt
[03:15] <quacker> allison_1984, you were going to send a screenshot too...
[03:15] <allison_1984> quacker > lol...it ain't going......
[03:16] <allison_1984> quacker > stuck at 0%
[03:16] <quacker> allison_1984, in general, if you have contiguosus files over 1GB, you want to use the largest cluster size possible.
[03:16] <Jowi> greatjones: In theory, you can add "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade)" as a cron-job for root
[03:17] <quacker> I don't believe that Ext3 FS supports 64K clusters yet, but I'm sure it does 4K at least,
[03:17] <allison_1984> quacker > are you talking about the installation ?
[03:17] <greatjones> Jowi - so there is no simple way to do it? i.e., there is no "button to push"?
[03:17] <deltron> 64K clusters seem like a waste of space
[03:17] <osfameron> Toma-: when I make those changes to hdparm.conf to enable DMA, do I have to reboot or is there a way to stop/restart just one service?
[03:17] <quacker> allison_1984, I'm talking about the partition where you will write large media files
[03:18] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: probly just 'ifconfig eth0 down' - or disable the i/f in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:18] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: or just disable the nic from the network panel
[03:18] <reign> frogzoo
[03:18] <Toma-> osfameron: run "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/harddrive_dev_entry
[03:18] <Toma-> "
[03:18] <osfameron> greatjones: I have a button in my status bar in top right
[03:18] <reign> soz, dude can you still help me ?
[03:18] <greatjones> Jowi - i am looking for the easiest way to update ubuntu, hopefully retaining my data.
[03:18] <osfameron> greatjones: it-s a red circle, it comes up when there are pending updates
[03:18] <frogzoo> reign: yes, you keep disappearing - would you mind if we take this off channel?
[03:18] <reign> yea sure
[03:19] <reign> sorry, im just at work, keep getting a bit busy
[03:19] <quacker> Also, you have more than one hard disk drive of the same speed and on separate ATA controllers (three or more would be optimal), I would seriously consider using RAID level 0
[03:19] <allison_1984> quacker > its about 15G....windows ntfs filesystem....I want to be able to access the disk..
[03:19] <osfameron> Toma-: sure, it was already set to on, the wikipage on DMA suggests then checking that it's enabled in hdparm.conf (which it wasn't)
[03:19] <Toma-> osfameron: i see...
[03:20] <greatjones> osfameron: i don't have a red button here. i'm trying to update ubuntu to the latest version, which I think is 5.10 (??) mine is, if i'm not mistaken, version 5.04
[03:20] <quacker> If you opt to do this, you will need to identical partitions... uh, ntfs?!?  I thought you said you wanted to read/wrie large media files, not access ntfs.
[03:20] <snorks> Toma-: build-essential didn't give me gcc-3.4. That's why the export thing didn't work. Anyway, now it worked, but I get asked for this: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:20] <snorks> kernel?
[03:20] <snorks> Toma-: Where does Linux store that?
[03:21] <Toma-> snorks: now you need to install the kernel headers. :S
[03:21] <quacker> NTFS support in Linux is best provided by an emulator which uses the original (M$'s) ntfs drivers together with VFS.
[03:21] <snorks> Toma-: ugh
[03:21] <osfameron> greatjones: oh, I see.  That's the general system updater, not the Hoary->Breezy upgrade.
[03:21] <Toma-> snorks: /lib/modules/kernel-number/kernel ...iirc.
[03:21] <osfameron> eeek!  101 pending updates, I have been rather naughty
[03:21] <allison_1984> quacker > sorry...I lost you......O...o......
[03:21] <Jowi> greatjones: well, to add a cron job is not hard. "sudo su" to get a root prompt. Then "crontab -e" to add a scheduled job. "man crontab" for help. it is pretty straightforward. That is for automatic updates. But it seems to me as if you wish to update your ubuntu version. I advise you to follow the guide for that. Remember that it is not possible to update windows from 2000 to XP in an easy way either.
[03:22] <Jowi> !breezyupdate
[03:22] <greatjones> osfameron: is that's what's called the "ubuntu update manager"?
[03:22] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:22] <Jowi> !breezyupgrade
[03:22] <ubotu> somebody said breezyupgrade was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:22] <quacker> ntfstools is good for copying, resizing, shrinking and moving ntfs partitions but accessing individual files is still a reall big PAIN.
[03:22] <quacker> allison_1984, you never said anything about NTFS -- ALL you asked about was 'large media'.
[03:22] <quacker> =P
[03:23] <greatjones> jowi: i'm not so much worried about what version of ubunui i have as i am worried about having my software up to date. so that's the easiest way to do it?
[03:23] <allison_1984> quacker > I have the option thru disks manger in Ubuntu to format the partition......to either extended2/3/reiserfs/xfs/swap........
[03:24] <osfameron> greatjones: yeah, you can open it from System->Administration as well
[03:25] <Jowi> greatjones: yeah, if you don't plan to upgrade to breezy (hoary still have some months left in it and will recieve plenty of updates) make a crontab job out of it. For example, make the upgrade command run once per week or something like that.
[03:25] <greatjones> osfameron: thank you
[03:25] <allison_1984> quacker > just wanted to know.....what format was the best...sorry...my mistake....tho I thought I did mention ntfs.........
[03:25] <greatjones> jowi: thank you
[03:26] <ZoZo-> quacker, chown nor chmod works to get rights on /home/zozo/D what can I do then ? =/
[03:27] <quacker> ZoZo-, are you root?
[03:27] <ZoZo-> quacker, "zozo" aint root, I mounted it with root and cannot change rights =/
[03:28] <quacker> uhhh....  I mean are LOGGED IN as root
[03:28] <quacker> su
[03:28] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea
[03:28] <quacker> Then you should be able to do anything unless you mounted -ro
[03:28] <ZoZo-> But not with zozo ?
[03:28] <ZoZo-> I mounted -t ntfs
[03:29] <quacker> what, 'zozo' the directory, or 'zozo't he user account?
[03:29] <ZoZo-> zozo the user account
[03:30] <snorks> Toma-: But you gotta agree with me though? How does a noob know about the directory of C header files that matches his running kernel, or how does a noob google/man it?
[03:30] <quacker> ZoZo-, it depends if you have administrative priveleges.  In Ubuntu, the default user is automatically added to the sudoers file.
[03:30] <allison_1984> quacker > ntfs day for you today !
[03:30] <Toma-> snorks: vmware isnt for noobs snorks
[03:30] <Toma-> snorks: vmware is basically a developers tool for debugging systems. not emulating windows to play counterstrike
[03:31] <ZoZo-> quacker, Can I make the user zozo "root" or give him the same priveleges ?
[03:31] <snorks> Toma-: I disagree. Installing software without apt-get/emerge isn't for noobs
[03:31] <quacker> heh -- I struggle with it myself quite a bit since I'm and IT &* T consultatnt; and people are ALWAYS asking about it here.  (It's always NTFS day here.)
[03:31] <snorks> Toma-: I know about vmware in Windows
[03:31] <quacker> I consider it worth the trouble for every windows luser I can help to emancipate from the Evil Empire...
[03:31] <quacker> ;-D
[03:31] <allison_1984> quacker > lol....
[03:31] <ZoZo-> Haha :D
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: I use it on a daily basis
[03:32] <allison_1984> quacker > well....I am gonna format it to extended 3 then .......and just start dumping my music files there.....
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: And the counter-strike thing was offending
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: Thanks for all your help thus far
[03:32] <ZoZo-> Maybe I really should install windows again.. :p
[03:33] <allison_1984> ZoZo > nice try !
[03:33] <Toma-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare
[03:33] <ZoZo-> I just feel like a pain in the ass for everyone with my alltime newbie questions allover :D
[03:33] <Toma-> itll be mostly the same process
[03:34] <allison_1984> ZoZo > I am a nOOb too....
[03:34] <butcherbird> Seveas, unbann me man, Im getting tired of using proxy servers
[03:34] <Siph0n> newbs unite :)
[03:34] <ZoZo-> ^
[03:34] <allison_1984> SiphOn > you make us sound like zombies.... ;-)
[03:35] <Siph0n> allison_1984, lol.... nah......
[03:35] <ZoZo-> Argh.. This is stupid.. Why doesnt it work =(
[03:35] <ZoZo-> quacker, Cant you like connect to my computer ? ;D
[03:36] <MickMcMack> quacker, the Evil Empire, eh? :)
[03:36] <jvai> hey every1.. gm, i use squid proxy servr, & firestarter, why i dl'ed squid, i have no idea, do i really need it?
[03:37] <allison_1984> ZoZo > hit your question again...
[03:38] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, I try to give the user zozo rights to /home/zozo/D with "chown zozo:zozo /home/zozo/D" and "chmod 777 /home/zozo/D" but none of those works.. Tried with -R too but that didnt work neither =(
[03:38] <jvai> what r the benefits of using a proxy?
[03:38] <IRCMonkey_> Wow, IRC worked this time
[03:38] <BooZee> how can I read the local mail (like root@local)
[03:39] <quacker> MickMcMack, CanEHjun, eh?
[03:39] <Jowi> ZoZo-: try to use "sudo chown -R zozo:zozo /home/zozo/D"
[03:39] <allison_1984> ZoZo > r u on a network / or r u talking about a new partition ?
[03:39] <matrix-ubuntu-c> does ppp got arp
[03:39] <ZoZo-> Jowi, Doint now
[03:39] <Mabus06> If I set the videoram higher, would it make games run better? I have 1gig of ram and I think I can spare some.
[03:39] <allison_1984> ZoZo > there you go ....
[03:39] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, A new partition that I mounted with root
[03:40] <allison_1984> ZoZo > I was just on the verge of mounting a new partition too......
[03:40] <quacker> ZoZo-, I charge $24-35/hour for remote assistance (unless it's something technically sexy taht I;ve never done before and want to test on someone else's boxen first) -- heh
[03:40] <quacker> =oD
[03:40] <ZoZo-> Damn ;D
[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  whereis arp
[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> arp: /usr/sbin/arp /usr/share/man/man8/arp.8.gz /usr/share/man/man7/arp.7.gz

[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hwo do i install arp
[03:41] <brenner> Mabus06: an onboard card? a laptop i assume?
[03:41] <Mabus06> brenner, an onboard card yes. Nope, not a laptop.
[03:41] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: I don't see the need for arp for ppp
[03:41] <ZoZo-> Jowi, And that did not work neither =(
[03:41] <quacker> After all, opens source developers and their downstream technicianen must manger too.
[03:41] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, I mounted my with "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /home/zozo/D
[03:41] <BooZee> question - how can I read the local mail (like root@local) ?
[03:41] <ZoZo-> quacker, What if I buy you dinner then ? ;D
[03:42] <brenner> Mabus06: it's not worth it imo, just buy a seperate card, upgrading the mboard if necessary.  but i guess it depends on what sort of games
[03:42] <Jowi> ZoZo-: NTFS can not put user flags like that
[03:42] <allison_1984> ZoZo > and you have files already on that partition ?
[03:42] <frogzoo> BooZee: probly 'sudo mail' will do it
[03:42] <quacker> ZoZo-, you'd save money if you jsut paid my fees (min. 1/2 hour)
[03:42] <BooZee> frogzoo: is that the only way?
[03:42] <ZoZo-> Jowi, It worked yesterday.. :S
[03:42] <frogzoo> whaaat??? there's no 'mail' in ubuntu
[03:42] <Mabus06> brenner, what do you mean "not worth it, buy a separate card"... I don't want to buy any new hardware, that costs money where I'm from..
[03:43] <BooZee> frogzoo: and what if I want to check another user's mail ?
[03:43] <MB|Can0n> Any idea why CC=gcc-3.4; export CC doesnt work ?  It doesnt change it to 3.4, just keeps it on 4. I have installed the right packages
[03:43] <ZoZo-> quacker, I wonder.. It's soooo much to fix here ;D Like my sound drivers too :p And to get mplayer and make that work :p
[03:43] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, Yea, had that partition on a windows install
[03:43] <frogzoo> BooZee: su
[03:43] <quacker> ZoZo-, you will learn much, young padawan, before you are through.
[03:43] <Jowi> shopping time. bbl
[03:43] <mahangu> isnt cedega int he repos?
[03:43] <frogzoo> BooZee: but if you're the mail admin - you can go straight to /var/spool/mail ;)
[03:43] <allison_1984> rotfl
[03:44] <quacker> hint: crimsun is the ALSA guru here.
[03:44] <djk_> mahangu: cedega costs money..
[03:44] <MickMcMack> I thought you could get the Cedega source free?
[03:44] <djk_> MickMcMack: no.
[03:44] <MickMcMack> It's just the prepackaged binaries that they charge for? :s
[03:44] <MB|Can0n> There is a cvs-cedega and wine can handle games almost aswell as cedega =)
[03:44] <MickMcMack> Hmmz, my bad.
[03:44] <brenner> Mabus06: well, most onboard cards are to put it simply: crap for games
[03:44] <mahangu> djk_, oh right, so there is no other FOSS way to play directx games under Linux?
[03:44] <quacker> ZoZo-, diners enroute probably takes credit card payments over the telephone -- hah!
[03:45] <djk_> MB|Can0n: wine doesn't have directx9 support does it?
[03:45] <brenner> Mabus06: but like i said, depends on the game
[03:45] <rlangly> hey guys -- so is Ubuntu like the up and coming distro folks are moving to now?  I'm normally a Slackware guy, but I ordered the CD's from ubuntu yesterday.  I'm anxious to try it out, but what does it offer that other distros don't have?
[03:45] <jvai> hey, is having squid proxy & firestartr, beneficial? do i even need squid?
[03:45] <MB|Can0n> djk_: Dont know
[03:45] <quacker> ZoZo-, are you trying to change the permission on an NTFS filesystem?!
[03:45] <mjr> djk_, it does have some support, not fully functional yet
[03:45] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea..
[03:45] <quacker> chown WILL NOT work on ntfs
[03:45] <allison_1984> rlangly > get ready  to wait.....
[03:45] <ZoZo-> Damnit.. Why dont I have any irl friends that knows linux ? .p
[03:45] <djk_> mahangu: FOSS? i don't speak abbreviation..
[03:46] <rlangly> allison_1984, how do you mean?
[03:46] <quacker> sorry, I didn't connect the two
[03:46] <ZoZo-> What works on ntfs ? :p
[03:46] <mahangu> rlangly, there are lots. id download the iso
[03:46] <frogzoo> rlangly: mostly it's the ease of install - most recent h/w just works - & the packages are reasonably stable
[03:46] <mahangu> djk_, Free and Open Source Software
[03:46] <quacker> man ntfstools
[03:46] <allison_1984> rlangly > just download it from a mirror
[03:46] <oKtosiTe_> No1Viking: you're welcome!
[03:46] <quacker> !restricted
[03:46] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:46] <djk_> mahangu: wine.
[03:46] <ZoZo-> quacker, When I do apt-get install ntfstools it stands it's already installed.. But I cant find it :S
[03:46] <allison_1984> rlangly > I ordered mine...but someone told me...prolly three months to get it mailed to me
[03:46] <jvai> so, having a proxy, has no security enefits
[03:47] <rlangly> It'll be probably after Christmas before I  can mess with it anyway, but I'll download it if the CD's haven't arrived by the time I want to work with it.  Myconnection is fast, so would only take an hour or so to get it.
[03:47] <mahangu> djk_, wine and directx?
[03:47] <frogzoo> allison_1984: 3 weeks is more typical, i believe
[03:47] <rlangly> allison_1984, ahh, I'll download it then.  Just heard the CD's are really groovy lookin'.
[03:47] <frogzoo> allison_1984: actually, depends on what you have ordered
[03:47] <MB|Can0n> Any idea why CC=gcc-3.4; export CC doesnt work ?  It doesnt change it to 3.4, just keeps it on 4. I have installed the right packages
[03:47] <allison_1984> rlangly > I downloaded mine..and its running like a dream
[03:47] <rlangly> does Ubuntu support rpm, apt-get, or all the above?  Just curious.
[03:47] <quacker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:48] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: will only work if the makefiles use CC
[03:48] <allison_1984> Frogzoo ? I ordered the 3 cds pack...minimal
[03:48] <quacker> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[03:48] <djk_> mahangu: like mjr just said, it has some support, not fully functional yet. i know it works with older games.
[03:48] <jvai> >:(
[03:48] <frogzoo> allison_1984: 3 weeks & x fingers
[03:48] <MB|Can0n> It does, I get [4389888.711000]  osslinux: version magic '2.6.12 386 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12-10-386 386 gcc-3.4'
[03:48] <djk_> mahangu: but i doubt something like civ4 would work in wine, albeit.. civ4 doesnt seem to work on windows either :p
[03:48] <allison_1984> Frogzoo >  like maybe four weeks ago and no news as yet
[03:49] <frogzoo> :(
[03:49] <mahangu> djk_, Counter Strike? :)
[03:49] <quacker> "This compatibility was achieved in the Wine way by using the original Microsoft Windows ntfs.sys driver. It emulates the required subsystems of the Microsoft Windows kernel by reusing one of the original ntoskrnl.exe, ReactOS parts,...."
[03:50] <quacker> ZoZo-, ntfstools are called by parted and directly at the command line -- id you *read* the Wiki that ubotu sent youi?
[03:50] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: which gcc-3.4
[03:50] <jvai> i cant keep my firewall up while on the company's network, i get mail thru pop
[03:50] <djk_> mahangu: never played that :) apparently seems to work according to http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=871
[03:51] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:51] <brenner> rlangly: it's deb based
[03:51] <jvai> & all the xp workstations here have sp1, only
[03:51] <jvai> do i need squid also?
[03:51] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: did you remake 'make config' after the install  ?
[03:51] <MB|Can0n> After I installed gcc-3.4 ?
[03:51] <quacker> rlangly, yes, and rpm is supported through the apt-get 'translation' package for Debian, 'alien'.
[03:52] <frogzoo> or ./configure or whatever
[03:52] <MB|Can0n> Uhm.. I just run ./oss-install
[03:52] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: nope, I'd start from square 1
[03:52] <aftertaf> weekend :)
[03:52] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: Explain a little, what square 1 ?
[03:53] <rob_p> jvai:  What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:53] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: what are you building?
[03:53] <MB|Can0n> OSS
[03:53] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: kernel ?
[03:53] <quacker> jvai, you shouldn't have to take your whole firewall down just to let POP (TCP port 110) through
[03:53] <jvai> i want a fastr browsing experience, on my p3/486mhz/thinkpad
[03:53] <jvai> tho it's mad fast now
[03:53] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: 2.6.12-10-386
[03:54] <frogzoo> jvai: ff 1.0.7 is nice
[03:54] <jvai> do i ned squid proxy?
[03:54] <jonathon> hey anyone got any experience with samba? i can see other samba shares on the network but even tho i shared a file i cant see it anywhere
[03:54] <quacker> just add your POP3 server to your firewall's ACL on port 110.
[03:54] <jvai> i have ff 1.07
[03:54] <frogzoo> jvai: so what's the prob?
[03:54] <quacker> jvai,  do you even read the answers people are giving you?!
[03:54] <quacker> =P
[03:54] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: no, start again, what are you trying to compile?
[03:54] <jvai> i have squid on here, if i dont need it.. i'll ghost it
[03:55] <BlueDevil> does anyone know of a voice conferencing program for linux similar to TeamSpeak?
[03:55] <jvai> i want to knw if it's beneficial
[03:55] <snorks> BlueDevil: maybe ventrilo?
[03:55] <trappist> jvai: if you didn't set it up on purpose you don't need it
[03:55] <djk_> BlueDevil: isn't there a Linux-TeamSpeak2-client?
[03:55] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: Im trying to compile OSS so I can have music and hopefully, hardware mixing
[03:55] <jvai> no1 answer earlier
[03:55] <quacker> jonathon, check the permissions on the fileshare
[03:55] <BlueDevil> djk_: yes, but it uses OSS, not ALSA
[03:55] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: OSS = open source software?
[03:56] <rob_p> jvai:  A local caching proxy would have the ability to speed some things up (like frequently requested data from same site, etc.) significantly if configured properly.
[03:56] <quacker> jvai, any proixy is abig waste of time unless you *need* a proxy
[03:56] <thenuke> frogzoo: maybe like open source sound or somthing :)
[03:56] <frogzoo> ah
[03:56] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: http://www.opensound.com/ =)
[03:56] <snorks> open sound systems
[03:56] <thenuke> open sound system to be exact..
[03:57] <quacker> if you just want to cache pages so they load faster (as rob_p suggest) then get wwwoffle or something lightweight -- squid is a monster of the deep,not to mention as big security hole if not confed properly
[03:57] <BlueDevil> snorks: ventrilo doesn't have a linux client :(
[03:57] <som1> guys.. when i use bash and try to cvs checkout and it asks me for a password and its wrong and i ctrl+c to get outta there i cant see what im writing and when i click enter or something it doesnt write on another line.. and it works fine with csh
[03:57] <som1> :)
[03:57] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, there is teamspeak2
[03:58] <eeaaxx> when i tried to upgrade hoary to breezy, the firefox browser does not have fonts?
[03:58] <jvai> ok.. *uninstalling squid*
[03:58] <jvai> i also set ff's cache to 0
[03:58] <quacker> wwwoffle can be set to accept remote connections as well or using tcpwrapper or inetd
[03:58] <BlueDevil> theD3viL: i know, but it uses OSS and doesn't work with aoss; even with OSS doesn't work sometimes
[03:58] <som1> i use cvs 1.12.9 and bash-3.00.16(1)-release
[03:58] <jvai> ok.. i was on the assumption that proxy = security
[03:59] <frogzoo> eeaaxx: I'm guessing you didn't preinstall the metapackages? ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:59] <quacker> jvai no
[03:59] <som1> who should i report this stuff to ? :)
[03:59] <jonathon> quacker what permissions where?
[03:59] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, buy a soundblaster soundcard for 10-20$
[03:59] <BlueDevil> ?!
[04:00] <BlueDevil> for what?
[04:00] <Moiana> Hi there! Does anybody know of a way to install tetex 3.0 on ubuntu?
[04:00] <BlueDevil> this works just fine
[04:00] <quacker> That is one reason they are set up, but you the understand what you are doing.  A proxy server is *not* the same as a firewall, althoughit can provide *some* of the same functions.
[04:00] <jvai> *squid* is ghost, on my box
[04:00] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, that you can play oss and oss
[04:00] <jvai> ok
[04:00] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, without any aoss
[04:00] <quacker> jvai, are you <shudder>) running an Internet node?
[04:01] <BlueDevil> theD3viL: oss apps lock /dev/dsp; another soundcard would behave the same
[04:01] <quacker> jonathon, what question, where?
[04:01] <BlueDevil> besides, the soundcard does hardware mixing
[04:02] <jonathon> quacker my smb isnt working so well
[04:02] <jvai> lol.. noo, but when i'm @ work. i use this notebook as a workstation, but i cant function w/ my firestartr on!, so, using the proxy @ work*automaticly* we have a rh server facing the outside
[04:02] <frogzoo> any hints on how I get the gtkwifi applet into the menu bar?
[04:03] <quacker> jonathon, are you on two connected machines RN?
[04:03] <frogzoo> jvai: you just need to reconfigure firestarter to allow your mail through
[04:03] <jvai> i had proxy set to *automatic* on ff & network settings
[04:03] <jonathon> two computers on a router
[04:03] <jvai> oooo ok @ frog
[04:04] <brenner> Moiana: any specific reason why you need t3?
[04:04] <quacker> jonathon, what UI for the Samba host (the machine with the files on it)?
[04:04] <jonathon> whats UI mean?
[04:04] <frogzoo> UI= user interface
[04:04] <jonathon> im using gnome
[04:05] <quacker> (U)ser (I)interface (i.e. KDE, Gnome, Xcfe, virtual terminal...)
[04:05] <contradictoryben> what controls the look of the menu fonts in VLC?
[04:05] <jonathon> before i start bothering u im going to restart and try one thing first
[04:05] <contradictoryben> e.g. many menu entries have !D after them (presumably instead of an ellipse)
[04:06] <Ng> BlueDevil: not true, a soundblaster live supports many applications opening /dev/dsp :)
[04:06] <Ng> as do some other cards
[04:06] <Ng> such hardware mixing is like golddust in soundcards though, *still* :(
[04:06] <jvai> i have my fonts set to *best contrast/RGB/greyscale* it looks nice, & clear
[04:07] <strider_> I'm getting a failed to construct test pipeline for 'XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)' error while starting totem
[04:07] <strider_> which is the default sink
[04:07] <strider_> Any ideas?
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu, UI is (U)ser (I)interface (i.e.X-windows  KDE, Gnome, Xcfe (GUIs--(G)raphical (U)ser (I)nterface(s)) console, virtual terminal (CLIs--(C)ommand (L)ine (I)nterface(s))...)
[04:07] <ubotu> quacker: okay
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu GUI is see 'UI'
[04:07] <ubotu> okay, quacker
[04:07] <jvai> resolution on fonts set @ 96 d.p.i
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu CLI is see 'UI'
[04:07] <ubotu> ...but cli is already something else...
[04:07] <jvai> on gnome
[04:08] <quacker> !cli
[04:08] <ubotu> I guess cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:08] <brenner> strider_: mine's set to xwindows (no sv)
[04:08] <Ng> strider_: generally that one is. Try the No Xv one though, it might be that your graphics card drivers can't do xv
[04:08] <brenner> *xv
[04:08] <quacker> righto
[04:08] <quacker> !smb
[04:08] <ubotu> No idea, quacker
[04:08] <quacker> !samba
[04:08] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:08] <strider_> ah just got the ati 8.19.10 drivers.
[04:08] <contradictoryben> so e.g. the first VLC menu item is "Quick Open File!D" ... why is this?
[04:09] <strider_> I'll try the ati one
[04:09] <Howie> Question: I am trying to setup Plugger on Ubuntu Linux V-5.04 couild someone help me please. I find the Plugger websight confusing to a new Linux user.
[04:09] <strider_> and no xv and simple sdl works fine
[04:09] <frogzoo> what's the difference between xv & simple sdl ?
[04:09] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how to solve my problem in firefox?
[04:10] <frogzoo> eeaaxx: maybe try installing ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <eeaaxx> frogzoo: i'll try
[04:12] <brenner> eeaaxx: or tell us exactly what you mean by "no fonts"
[04:14] <eeaaxx> brenner: it means, there are no fonts only underscore is viewed
[04:15] <brenner> eeaaxx: where? in the menus? in the webpages themselves?  see what i mean?
[04:15] <johnny> hello evreyone
[04:15] <Howie> Is there a howto script somewhere that explains in detail how to setup Plugger on Ubuntu V-5.04.
[04:16] <eeaaxx> brenner: menus, webpages
[04:17] <occy> crimsun, hey... is there a default char limit on the topic of a channel?
[04:18] <brenner> eeaaxx: do as frogzoo suggested first...do other apps act the same way?
[04:18] <deltron> occy: yeah
[04:18] <occy> deltron, hmm
[04:18] <occy> k thanks
[04:18] <deltron> not sure what it is here
[04:19] <deltron> each irc server is different
[04:19] <deltron> err network
[04:19] <Cityismine> Hey I just installed firefox, but it doesn't show up under system tools, I'm kinda new to ubuntu, can someone help me out
[04:19] <Cityismine> *firestarter
[04:19] <frogzoo> Cityismine: it's under internet
[04:19] <eeaaxx> brenner: ill try. thanks
[04:19] <contradictoryben> does no-one know how to make vlc look nice with ubuntu?
[04:19] <Cityismine> I meant firestarter, not firefox, sorry
[04:20] <brenner> contradictoryben: it's gtk1 based isn't it?
[04:20] <kana01> bonjour
[04:20] <occy> So there is no way to get Firefox 1.5 without messing up your system?  as I see FF is dependant upon ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <frogzoo> Cityismine: logout & back in
[04:20] <kana01> hello
[04:20] <kana01> i need help
[04:20] <deltron> guten tag
[04:20] <deltron> hehe
[04:20] <erUSUL> kana01, ask
[04:21] <kana01> english or french plz
[04:21] <frogzoo> occy: what you going to do about all the  plugins that will break? or just keep ff1.5 in your local dir
[04:21] <contradictoryben> brenner: i'm using the ubuntu package ... it seems to have multiple interfaces (e.g. wxwidgets) but I _assume_ it's basically gtk
[04:21] <kana01> im new in ubuntu and in linux
[04:21] <occy> frogzoo, all the plugins?  what else is there besides flash?  heh
[04:21] <deltron> english
[04:21] <kana01> i wouldl ike install winex
[04:21] <occy> frogzoo, and flash doesn't work?
[04:21] <brenner> contradictoryben: yes, but gtk1 is butt-ugly (e.g. xmms), while gtk2 is purdier (e.g. bmp)
[04:21] <kana01> but
[04:21] <frogzoo> occy: gxine, realaudio for starters
[04:21] <kana01> how to do that?
[04:22] <kana01> plz help me
[04:22] <vapor> hey guys.. i've installed upower.. (similar to splashy) and tests with $ upower startup | shutdown worked fine. but on booting oder shutting down, i'm just in verbose mode. i can't see any bootsplashpicture. anybody an idea how to fix it?
[04:22] <contradictoryben> brenner: there must be ways to make gtk look nice... or at least output the correct characters
[04:22] <erUSUL> kana01, use synaptic. search for it and mark for instalation. finally press aply
[04:22] <brenner> contradictoryben: and if it *is* gtk1, you just have to wait till they port it to gtk2
[04:22] <Cityismine> Is there any other way to update the menus, maybe through command line??
[04:22] <frogzoo> kana01: open synaptic & install pkgs wine & xwine
[04:22] <occy> frogzoo, heh, have never used those.
[04:22] <vapor> *or shutting down
[04:23] <brenner> contradictoryben: you were getting !D characters right?
[04:23] <blanky> can i fsck the drive im running on
[04:23] <kana01> ok i teste thanks erUSUL and FROGZOO
[04:23] <rob_p> Cityismine:  killall gnome-panel
[04:23] <deltron> kana01: install xwine
[04:23] <blanky> I keep getting CRC errors when un-rarring a file (cylic redundancy check)
[04:23] <frogzoo> blanky: no - file systems have to be unmounted to fsck
[04:23] <blanky> so i should do it from a live cd, got it
[04:23] <djk_> frogzoo: xwine is just a GUI for wine
[04:23] <erUSUL> Cityismine, smeg
[04:24] <frogzoo> djk_: yup, that's why you need wine as well
[04:24] <djk_> frogzoo: she asked for wineX
[04:24] <kana01> i don't have wine and xwine
[04:24] <johnny> hi
[04:24] <djk_> or he
[04:24] <kana01> when i search i can't find
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell kana01 about repos
[04:24] <johnny> can some one give me a name of a good linux firewall
[04:24] <djk_> kana01: you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list ..
[04:24] <johnny> plz?
[04:24] <kana01> !tell erusul
[04:24] <djk_> johnny: iptables
[04:24] <BooZee> I got a problam with flash!!
[04:24] <kana01> djk
[04:25] <johnny> iptables?
[04:25] <kana01> im noob in ubuntu
[04:25] <erUSUL> kana01, you need to add all repositories see the msg ubotu send you
[04:25] <frogzoo> djk_: you are right, hmm.. time to turn in
[04:25] <djk_> johnny: yes
[04:25] <luis_> hi everybody
[04:25] <djk_> frogzoo: hehe :)
[04:25] <deltron> hi dr. nick
[04:25] <luis_> any dapper user around?
[04:25] <johnny> djk_: is that the name of the firewall or isit the actualy iptables?
[04:25] <twilight> luis_, yes
[04:25] <kana01> erusul
[04:25] <kana01> have you got msn?
[04:25] <erUSUL> johnny, firestarter i personally use firehol both are "front-ends" to iptables
[04:25] <kana01> for explain me plz ?
[04:25] <djk_> johnny: it's the actual iptables... firestarter and bla are just frontends ;)
[04:25] <deltron> luis_: you're a brave man if you wanna use dapper ;)
[04:26] <BooZee> I can't see text inside flash! (for an example - when right clicking on a movie, and going to the settings - I can see only the pics and no text!!)
[04:26] <luis_> twilight, got problems with HAL?
[04:26] <djk_> kana01: are you interested in wine or winex?
[04:26] <erUSUL> kana01, have you read what ubotu told you?
[04:26] <twilight> luis_, no. I've problems with udev
[04:26] <trappist> johnny: I use ipkungfu
[04:26] <brenner> dapper = next release?
[04:26] <kana01> im french
[04:26] <Oceansblue> hello
[04:26] <trappist> !fr
[04:26] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:26] <kana01> and i wan't test ubuntu
[04:26] <luis_> i've trying, but to no avail
[04:27] <johnny> thx
[04:27] <johnny> yall
[04:27] <johnny> brb
[04:27] <luis_> no soundcard, but it shows in the device manager
[04:27] <erUSUL> kana01, i'm spanish... ;)
[04:27] <kana01> and erUSUL have you got msn?
[04:27] <kana01> hola :)
[04:27] <twilight> luis_, kernel?
[04:27] <twilight> try with the 2.6.12-6
[04:27] <twilight> ops
[04:28] <twilight> luis_, 2.6.15-6, sorry
[04:28] <Cityismine> Do I need a firewall??  Cause my router crashed, and now I'm plugged directly into my dsl modem
[04:28] <luis_> latest newest shinest twilight
[04:28] <kana01> im in synaptic
[04:28] <kana01> what i have to do?
[04:29] <deltron> edit the sources to add universal
[04:29] <luis_> twilight, 2.6.12-9-686
[04:29] <courtney_> :)
[04:29] <kana01> kerusul
[04:29] <twilight> luis_, many things are changed..hotplug will be replaced by coldplug/udev/kernel features
[04:29] <luis_> twilight, that is what apt-get gives me
[04:29] <erUSUL> kana01, open Configuration-->Repositories
[04:30] <luis_> yeah, i've been reading so
[04:30] <erUSUL> kana01, mark all the repositories
[04:30] <kana01> where is configuration??
[04:30] <twilight> luis_, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-6, and try it
[04:30] <luis_> twilight, what bothers me is that dapper sees the card
[04:31] <kana01> erusul im in private chat with you
[04:31] <twilight> luis_, less /etc/sndstat . is all ok?