[06:16] <robbbie> I have installed moonlight but it appears i am out of luck when it comes to watching netflix, can anyone confirm?
[06:17] <Chipzzz> robbbie: confirmed... blockbuster online won't work either
[06:17] <Chipzzz> (afaik)
[06:17] <lalaland1125> DrPenguin: I don't think anything funny in going on in the log, but here it is: http://ideone.com/swMqb
[06:18] <lalaland1125> It might be that the fglrx driver is consuming alot of the ram. Xinerimera is not exactly the standard configuration.
[06:18] <DrPenguin> ohhhh hohoho this is fglrx
[06:18] <DrPenguin> my nemesis
[06:18] <DrPenguin> I can figure this out
[06:19] <DrPenguin> before I read too much into it.. its possible that fglrx is getting a TON of ram for the framebuffer
[06:19] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin ; do not use Enter as Punctuation!
[06:19] <DrPenguin> in some bios, you can assign that, upper values of 2gig, possibly more
[06:19] <lalaland1125> That might be. I was abusing firefox before this happened.
[06:19] <DrPenguin> karl-augustt: dont tell me what to do! anyway..
[06:20] <lalaland1125> Using an autopager so I got somewhere like 400 pages before it stared swapping.
[06:20] <Chipzzz> lalaland1125: according to htop, chrome is taking all the memory
[06:20] <pnorman> I just finished moving my ubuntu install to a new case and motherboard and it's not connecting to the network. ifconfig only shows the local loopback interface. ifconfig -a shows the local loopback as well as eth2 and rename3
[06:21] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!
[06:21] <lalaland1125> Chipzzz: Nah it's only using ~10-15% Xorg is eating it all.
[06:22] <lalaland1125> DrPenguin: I think you might be right, that's it caching it for some reason.
[06:22] <lalaland1125> So I only need to dig into the settings for how to flush the cache or something.
[06:22] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!
[06:22] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: can you see if theres an option in amdcccle, and if not, MAYBE (but doubtful) your bios, where it dictates the framebuffer size? also,you might need to look at other settings, if your using Xinerama, things like EnableTearFree desktop do consume a decent amount of Ram
[06:23] <Chipzzz> lalaland1125: sorry, you're right... chrome is taking a lot of virtual memory
[06:23] <szal> !attitude | DrPenguin, karl-augustt
[06:23] <DrPenguin> szal: I dont even use Ubuntu. I dont like Ubuntu. I just chill here to help people
[06:23] <szal> DrPenguin: thus stick to the !guidelines please
[06:24] <DrPenguin> szal: what guidelines? im talking to lalaland1125 helpign HIM.
[06:24] <Chipzzz><EMAIL_ADDRESS>you know an awful lot about ubuntu for someone who doesn't like it much... kudos to you, sir
[06:24] <pangolin> DrPenguin: We appreciate it but keep in mind while in here we ask that you follow the guidelines. karl-augustt please do not tell people to leave the channel and try wording your comments a little nicer.
[06:24] <pangolin> there we go. back to support :)
[06:25] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: it used to be my Distro of choice, and its what I work on at HP. I mainly use Arch Linux now
[06:26] <JoshuaP> I'm about to do a server reboot and will be right back. :)
[06:26] <Chipzzz> DrPenguin: Ah... thank you for dropping in to help us out!
[06:27] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: heh its nothing.. im just bored really, nothin better to do
[06:27] <karl-augustt> pangolin: do not worry, you can take for granted that i'll be correct when working on channel!
[06:27] <lalaland1125> Yay, the buffer seems to have cleared itself out, nows it's down to a puny 861 megabytes.
[06:27] <lalaland1125> Note to self: never load more than 400 pages in firefox.
[06:28] <szal> lol
[06:29] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: wait, X is back down to a cute level or is this something completely different ?
[06:29] <lalaland1125> It's back down to a cute level.
[06:29] <lalaland1125> I assume firefox tried doing something stupid like loading a million textures into the graphics card memory or something.
[06:30] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: good! im glad :). As a recommendation, try a browser like Chromium. Its much more friendly when it comes to CPU and Ram.. its weird that X was the owner of those memory allocations.. thats something to think about
[06:30] <dahlia> is there a way I can log in to my new kubuntu install without running X? I dont see an option for it on the login screen
[06:31] <DrPenguin> dahlia: well.. if you boot in single user mode that would do the trick.. what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:31] <dahlia> I want to install new nvidia driver but it wont let me if X is running
[06:31] <DrPenguin> dahlia: oh! thats simple.. just VT swtich (like ctrl alt F2), log in, sudo services gdm stop, install it, then sudo services gdm start
[06:31] <dahlia> I tried single user mode but it said read-only file syste,
[06:31] <dahlia> ty trying that...
[06:31] <DrPenguin> probably because the kernel was passed ro
[06:33] <dahlia> services: command not found
[06:33] <DrPenguin> um.. maybe its service then? try that.. I always get this one mixed up
[06:33] <dahlia> kk
[06:33] <Chipzzz> "service" is right
[06:34] <dahlia> gdm: unrecogniized service
[06:34] <dahlia> closer :)
[06:34] <dahlia> its kubuntu
[06:34] <pangolin> kdm
[06:34] <DrPenguin> OH!then its kdm
[06:34] <dahlia> ty that did something
[06:35] <DrPenguin> now X is dead, feel free to install the driver
[06:35] <chromaticwt> how do I disable gdm?
[06:35] <chromaticwt> in 11.10
[06:37] <pangolin> chromaticwt: sudo service gdm stop
[06:37] <pangolin> err 11.10 uses lightdm so  I think it is ldm now
[06:37] <chromaticwt> oh really? so I guess that's why I couldn't disable gdm.
[06:37] <pangolin> would make sense yeah
[06:39] <Tyther> ok
[06:39] <tensorpudding> if you upgrade i don't believe it changes it
[06:39] <karl-augustt> do someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?
[06:39] <tensorpudding> or it might give you a choose
[06:39] <tensorpudding> choice*
[06:39] <pangolin> karl-augustt: #arch
[06:39] <tensorpudding> karl-augustt, you mean debootstrapping ubuntu in arch?
[06:40] <tensorpudding> that'd not really be on-topic
[06:40] <ubluntu> I think it's #archlinux
[06:40] <DrPenguin> that is correct
[06:41] <karl-augustt> tensorpudding: exactly
[06:41] <tensorpudding> debootstrap is available outside of debian-based systems
[06:42] <atvr> hi, i need help people. i have an issue trying to instal ubuntu 11.10 with a bootable usb stick, since i am new to linux, and i am a windows user i dont really understand the linux thing, so my problem is im trying to instal, when i boot from the usb stick, i get to the first menu, wich you can choose to only try ubuntu or instal it, but after i have pressed my choice the screen whent black and there is nothing happening, but if a choo
[06:42] <atvr> the probleme is probably with my video card wich is a AMD radeon
[06:42] <atvr> my laptop is an toshiba satallite L745D
[06:42] <pnorman> atvr: Your first message cut off with but if a choo
[06:43] <edbian> atvr, does try or install work?
[06:43] <wookienz> team, just upgraded to 11.10. Having porblems with connecting to it remotely. Is there a VNC sevrer installed by default? I have remote desktop turned on in the settings, but netstat shows no listening ports for 5500 or 5900. ideas?
[06:43] <atvr> edbian: no my screen dosnt work
[06:43] <gulzar> any duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?
[06:43] <guest_> I am wondering for software engineers and programmers what their favorite IDE for developing their applications is? Mine is eclipse you can do everything in it from asm to perl , python , java , c/c++ ...etc
[06:43] <pnorman> wookienz: did you have vnc installed before?
[06:44] <mebigfatguy_> guest_,  and this has what to do with ubuntu?
[06:44] <Stanley00> !best | guest_
[06:44] <tensorpudding> guest_, that's not really a support question, this channel isn't for polls
[06:44] <edbian> atvr, does the USB stick boot on any other computer? (do you have any other computer to test it on?)
[06:44] <atvr> pnorman: but if a choose to only try it it can ear the ubuntu theme song in my speaker
[06:44] <szal> how do I select a USB drive to make a startup disk from in usb-creator?
[06:44] <atvr> edbian: yes i have tested on my desktop and it work
[06:45] <atvr> also i have tryied the alternative installation wich does not work ether
[06:45] <edbian> atvr, try booting with the nomodeset option:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[06:45] <karl-augustt> atvr, you have perhaps too problem, if you monitor have no problem , be convainced that you have an uninstable OS on your disk
[06:46] <szal> ah, needed a kick in the shizzles by un- and replugging the USB pen
[06:46] <atvr> karl-augustt: what do you mean i dont nunderstand
[06:46] <DrPenguin> karl-augustt: its not that.. ive seen this before.. X has issues automagically booting on newer machines
[06:46] <karl-augustt> ubuntu 11.10 presents again some bugs, so be patient!
[06:46] <atvr> DrPenguin: hi , if you remenber about 2days ago i have talked to you about that
[06:47] <DrPenguin> atvr: I thought I recognized your issue.. good.. im not any more crazy that I think I am
[06:47] <gulzar> any duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?
[06:47] <atvr> DrPenguin: XD
[06:48] <lalaland1125> Hmm it seems Xorg's dance with swap has messed up my sound, now all my songs sound like my mother singing them.
[06:48] <lalaland1125> Time to reboot.
[06:48] <Stanley00> gulzar: fdupes is also good, but it's command line only
[06:48] <leeprison> hi,everyone .  I have two os  win7 and ubuntu10.04   ,but  i want to update my ubuntu  and i'm afraid to destroy the grub ..how to update safety?
[06:48] <pr0ton_> how to switch tabs in terminal?
[06:49] <Stanley00> leeprison: how did you install your ubuntu? if you didnt use wubi, then upgrade is just fine,
[06:49] <gulzar> Stanley00: no prob.. I will try it
[06:49] <DrPenguin> leeprison: no need to be worried, Ive done updates before on a dualbooted machine and I havent had an issue (until I updated from Natty to Oneric, but it wasnt grub related)
[06:49] <wookienz> pnorman: maybe not then...is there a stock vnc se ubuntu?
[06:49] <Stanley00> leeprison: and better way is fresh install
[06:50] <wookienz> se/server
[06:50] <Chipzzz> leeprison: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a good option
[06:50] <saurabh_D> ls
[06:50] <leeprison> I did't use wubi
[06:51] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin: I 've just have a similar problem, I started ubuntu on my usb disk, after a few seconds, I did not have any luminosity
[06:51] <pnorman> on a server typically you wouldn't have a GUI.
[06:52] <hounchouts> Hi everyone. I've recently got a small VPS. It had CentOS 64 installed but after trying it I wasn't pleased and asked to install Ubuntu (as I originally asked they made a mistake with the CentOS). They installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 but now I can't run simple commands like apt-get and gedit, and constantly get Wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 errors. this is how it looks like when I log in: http://paste
[06:52] <hounchouts> bin.com/grE9yXN0
[06:52] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : I remained that in this conditions , my installation still worked!
[06:53] <gulzar> Stanley00: Thank You
[06:53] <wookienz> pnorman: it is to remote back to my main machine when overseas.
[06:53] <Stanley00> gulzar: you are welcome ;)
[06:56] <subcool> help with fixing avast-
[06:57] <szal> subcool: whole sentences-
[06:57] <karl-augustt> atvr: have you find a solution to your problem?
[06:57] <subcool> avast is erroring during ITS startup. Something about its engine error. Not getting much from google
[06:58] <subcool> aside from uninstall reinstall
[06:58] <hounchouts> does anyone know why I am getting these ELFCLASS64 errors?
[06:58] <chromaticwt> what is the best way to create a custom ubuntu cd?
[06:58] <subcool> I also have a killer virus on my friends laptop- which is NOT getting cleared by these virus scanners im using....
[06:58] <chromaticwt> which tutorial should I use?
[06:58] <Stanley00> !remastersys | chromaticwt
[06:58] <subcool> The virus has rendered the computer pretty useless. i would like to not have to resintall the OS- it is a windwos OS
[06:59] <subcool> XP
[07:00] <atvr> karl-augustt: no
[07:00] <clear`> subcool: backup the data and install ubuntu
[07:00] <forcemp> subcool did you check all the typical places virus' live?
[07:00] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: are you trying to compile and or run a program of one architecture on an incompatible one? like what are you doing
[07:01] <subcool> clear`: not my computer
[07:01] <clear`> then its not your problem...
[07:01] <subcool> forcemp: um- no?? i use scanners these days.
[07:01] <subcool> clear`: lol- it is if i plan to get laid.
[07:01] <DrPenguin> scanners suck
[07:01]  * subcool feels played
[07:02] <clear`> well tell her/him that the best solution is to backup and start fresh
[07:03] <forcemp> subcool i fyou dont like the manual method you can try microsoft system sweeper?
[07:03] <clear`> well, what virus is it?
[07:03] <subcool> forcemp: her computer is useless it is has locked out EVERYTHING that i can use to fix it. Which doesnt seem to matter, because even the scanners arent clearing it all up
[07:03] <clear`> boot in safe mode and do a scan
[07:03] <subcool> clear`: no clue- nothing is picking it up.
[07:04] <tensorpudding> !ot | subcool
[07:04] <subcool> clear`: way past that
[07:04] <lifestream> Is there another way to make a Windows XP USB (iso to usb) besides with unetbootin ? Because unetbootin does not work with XP (it only shows "Default" on the menu, and it doesn't boot XP)
[07:04] <subcool> cute tensorpudding
[07:04] <karl-augustt> do someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?
[07:04] <DrPenguin> subcool: hes right,, this is off topic
[07:04] <DrPenguin> !ot | karl-augustt
[07:04] <subcool> im looking for ubuntu help :p
[07:04] <DrPenguin> but.. this isnt an ubuntu problem
[07:05] <forcemp> subcool have you heard of system sweeper? its an offline av scanner that mounts the windows registry hives and searches the os for root kits more efficiently.
[07:05] <subcool> safemode has been destroyed- thus using ubuntu
[07:05] <subcool> the virus even destroyed the use of network options
[07:05] <tensorpudding> you can't fix windows from ubuntu
[07:06] <DrPenguin> tensorpudding: id disagree there, its possible
[07:06] <tensorpudding> even if you could, it is a windows question
[07:06] <clear`> subcool: time to backup and format
[07:06] <DrPenguin> but regardless, this ISNT an ubuntu issue
[07:06] <subcool> its very possible,
[07:06] <subcool> bah-
[07:06] <subcool> k, - imma try to fix these last two scanners and take it from there
[07:06] <subcool> i just cant believe nothing is picking this thing up.
[07:07] <ubluntu> subcool maybe its a rootkit
[07:08] <subcool> pm me- too much chatter
[07:09] <hounchouts> drpenguin: no i just started the server. I tried to open gedit or try apt-get but get the same corrupted library errors. I've put it on pastebin if you want to have a look :  http://pastebin.com/grE9yXN0
[07:10] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: oh man that looks ugly.. whats the output of uname -p?
[07:11] <atvr> how can i put nomodeset when installing ubuntu 11.10
[07:11] <DrPenguin> atvr: thats a kernel boot parameter
[07:12] <atvr> DrPenguin: ?? can you explan what you said lol like i said i am new to linux
[07:12] <Chipzzz> atvr: press space while it is booting into grub and edit the record
[07:12] <hounchouts> drpenguin: uname -p = unknown
[07:12] <clear`> hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.10
[07:12] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: Whoa! seriously? ok… what about just straight uname -a? Im thinking your system for some reaosn has NO idea what architechture it is
[07:12] <Stanley00> atvr: you can add that via /etc/default/grub
[07:13] <DrPenguin> atvr: the Linux Kernel takes parameters when it boots to exec with different options, like single, ro, quiet, splash, etc. nomodeset is one of thos options
[07:13] <Stanley00> atvr: add that that the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=..." , I think, then run update-grub
[07:13] <atvr> DrPenguin: okay but how can i set that, im not able to get into the installation
[07:14] <Chipzzz> atvr: are you still trying to boot from the live cd?
[07:14] <hounchouts> drpenguin: uname -a = Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-33-server #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 22:28:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:14] <atvr> Stanley00: i am not even able to install ubuntu so i cant do that
[07:14] <DrPenguin> atvr: you can manipulate the kernel boot parameters when you go to boot for a one time deal
[07:14] <atvr> Chipzzz: no im from a udb stick
[07:14] <hounchouts> centOS 64 was installed first erronously, as I asked for Ubuntu 32, so they installed Ubuntu
[07:15] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, I see, you want to set that option for the liveCD right?
[07:15] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: ok.. I wonder why -p gave you an unknown when it sees that its an x64 arch.. I think you might just need to reinstall your server.. maybe you should md5 the iso to make sure its ok
[07:15] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: thats ubuntu 64
[07:15] <hounchouts> I asked them to install Ubuntu 32 and they confirmed that. Strange
[07:15] <atvr> DrPenguin: when i boot, i see that i can put some command or somthing, it says Boot: in the lower part of the screen so is it there that i have to put something
[07:16] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: according to uname its 64..unless they botched something TERRIBLY wrong
[07:16] <atvr> Stanley00: no i am from a usb boot stick
[07:17] <hounchouts> DrPenguin: thanks, I think I better contact them again, hope they get it right the third time
[07:17] <Orthebox> Hi
[07:17] <Stanley00> atvr: It's the same as liveCD IMO :), when you at the boot screen, high light the try ubuntu..., press F6 I think, the will popup some option, one of them is nomodeset
[07:17] <atvr> Stanley00: i am trying that right away :) sorry i am new to linux
[07:18] <Orthebox> Hello everyone I'm currently using MacBook Pro 7,1 and I intend to install Ubuntu as part of my triple-boot plan (OSX, WIN, UBUNTU). I just need to know - which edition should I use for my installation?
[07:18] <lifestream> I have Linux only. Does anyone know if I can run flashboot/WinToFlash inside a virtualbox Windows to put XP ISO on USB? I have no cd drive so I'm screwed.  Unetbootin does not work.
[07:18] <Stanley00> atvr: everyone is new at the first time ;)
[07:18] <Chipzzz> lol
[07:19] <szal> installing from USB is a very nice way of installing
[07:19] <atvr> Stanley00: when i press F6 i doesnt do anything
[07:19] <atvr> Stanley00: could it be the TAB button
[07:19] <Orthebox> @szal: I'm using dd.
[07:20] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, did you high light the "try ubuntu..." line at boot screen?
[07:20] <atvr> Stanley00: cuz i have pressed tab and now there is a command line in bottom of the screen
[07:20] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, just exit that command line, press F6 at the boot menu.
[07:21] <Chipzzz> atvr: didn't it used to give you a graphic screen with icons to click on for "try" or "install"?
[07:21] <atvr> Stanley00: yes it more like "Run Ubuntu From This USB"
[07:21] <Stanley00> atvr: ooops, did you use unetbootin to create that usb?
[07:21] <atvr> Chipzzz: no its like a dos menu, i can only us the keyboard to select
[07:21] <atvr> Stanley00: yes i did
[07:22] <szal> bleh..  "Selecting and installing software failed"
[07:22] <Orthebox> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso or ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[07:22] <Stanley00> atvr: I didnt use that tool for a long time... cant remember how to do with it... do you know how to edit a boot option? It's normally said at the bottom of screen
[07:23] <Stanley00> atvr: like "press xxx to edit..."?
[07:23] <Orthebox> Which edition is advised for MacBook Pro 7,1?
[07:23] <Stanley00> !ot | Orthebox
[07:24] <Stanley00> Orthebox: oop, sorry, miss your first post :(
[07:24] <Orthebox> Stanley00: It's fine :P
[07:24] <Orthebox> Stanley00: The Ubuntu wiki suggested Oneiric ... I dunno why
[07:24] <atvr> Stanley00: no i dont but, when ive pressed tab there is somthing written at the bottom that i can edit, its like" /casper/vm/linuz noprompt cdrom-detect.......
[07:25] <Stanley00> Orthebox: all of them is fine. just depend on your system's memory
[07:25] <Orthebox> Stanley00: K thanks a lot :)
[07:26] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, maybe it's tab key, you can go to the end of the line said "linux ..." or "kernel ..." then add nomodeset
[07:27] <miadbahrami> salam bache ha ki c++ khoob mitoone kar kone baram ye proje benevise
[07:28] <atvr> Stanley00: yes i just tryed that, then it when to a screen purple that says Ubuntu 11.10 and there was like loading progress bar with dots, then i t went into a black screen that i am able to input some command, the line is ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[07:29] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, can you try running "startx"
[07:29] <atvr> Stanley00: so i have put back the nomodeset there, then its says command not found then there was somthing says like loading firmware.... and there some command displaying one after one
[07:30] <Chipzzz> atvr: sounds like you have a server edition... if you install it, you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have a full desktop running in no time
[07:30] <atvr> Stanley00: do you want me to reboot and try to put your startx comand
[07:30] <wadkar> okay, I fudged up my partition table
[07:30] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, you run startx at the command screen, which said "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[07:31] <wadkar> now I am constrained by the primary partition limit of 4
[07:31] <atvr> Stanley00: no do you want me to try it ?
[07:31] <Stanley00> atvr: yes, you should run startx command
[07:31] <wadkar> and I think I will need to remove/resize my extended partition /dev/sda4 which hosts the logical partition /dev/sda5 : my root partition
[07:32] <wadkar> which is the best way to go about this ?
[07:32] <guest_> ,
[07:33] <wadkar> can gParted resize my root partition ?
[07:33] <Chipzzz> wadkar: do you have a desktop or are you working from the command line?
[07:33] <atvr> Stanley00: i just retried to put the nomodeset, and now it work i can vue the desktop to try it, so now i am trying to instal it with nomodeset
[07:33] <StepNjump> how can I unpack a .gz file please using tar?
[07:33] <wadkar> Chipzzz: I have Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 desktop installed on my laptop
[07:33] <Chipzzz> wadker: yes gparted is the tool to use
[07:34] <Stanley00> atvr: good luck then ;)
[07:34] <Stanley00> StepNjump: tar -xvf file.tar.gz?
[07:34] <StepNjump> ok let me try that Stanley00 tnx
[07:34] <wadkar> I have /dev/sda1 500mb /boot , /dev/sda2 4gb swap, /dev/sda3 100gb ntfs /windows and I hoped to created rest ~400gb space as /dev/sda4 extended, then create logical partitions there
[07:35] <Stanley00> StepNjump: np ;)
[07:35] <wadkar> s/hoped/thought/
[07:35] <StepNjump> Stanley00 it says: tar: This does not look like a tar archive. keep in mind it's not a tar.gz but just a .gz
[07:35] <wadkar> unfortunately the /dev/sda4 is a megre 50GB , which I thought I allocated to /dev/sda5 my ext4 /root partition
[07:36] <Stanley00> StepNjump: then try this  tar -zxvf file.tar.gz?
[07:36] <Humbedooh> gzip -d filename ?
[07:36] <StepNjump> no it's file.gz stanley00
[07:36] <Stanley00> StepNjump: if that is just gz, not tar, then try gunzip :D
[07:36] <wadkar> now I want to resize my /dev/sda4 so that it can occupy rest, but that means erasing /dev/sda5 , which hosts my OS !
[07:37] <wadkar> need some fdisk-foo badly :(
[07:37] <StepNjump> ok and what are the switches of the gunzip Stanley00
[07:37] <Humbedooh> ...
[07:37] <Stanley00> StepNjump: just gunzip file.gz :D
[07:37] <StepNjump> ok let me try
[07:37] <Chipzzz> wadkar: actually, you're in better shape than you think...
[07:38] <wadkar> Chipzzz: really? how so ?
[07:39] <Chipzzz> wadkar: if i'm reading this right, you have 50Gb for /dev/s4 and 350Gb unpartitioned, right?
[07:39] <wadkar> yes, sda4 is the extended one, which has logical sda5 hosting my Ubuntu
[07:40] <wadkar> Chipzzz: ^
[07:40] <Humbedooh> to think if Apache had developed the gz format...
[07:40] <Humbedooh> it'd be called apache gunzip :D
[07:40] <Stanley00> wadkar: I dont know, if it's like that you could just simple resize sda4 to that unallocate?
[07:41] <gulzar> Please help. Pidgin is showing "not authorised" with gmail. Any solution?
[07:41] <wadkar> Stanley00: hmm, I can resize sda4, without mutilating sda5 ? never resized anything till date, so not sure how it works
[07:42] <wadkar> I am only worried because of sda5 hosting my OS, otherwise I wouldnt mind experimenting/trying out whatever I feel right
[07:42] <Church> wadkar: whatever you do i'd say making backups prior that never hurts
[07:42] <Stanley00> wadkar: I think it would be fine, if you not sure, backup averything before you do that :D
[07:42] <Chipzzz> wadkar: so if you partition the 350Gb as ext4, you can reinstall the system with a 50Gb "/" volume and a 350Gb "/home" partition, which is a reasonable useage
[07:43] <Stanley00> wadkar: backup is alway good practice before you do anything :D
[07:43] <Chipzzz> (although the "/" is a bit large)
[07:43] <wadkar> Church: sure, I know that very well, and I have my own backups, but system config is a big task, and I dont want to repeat myself
[07:43] <Church> pitty default ubuntu installer doesn't do lvm. lvm provides great flexibility for allocating disk space.
[07:44]  * wadkar brb
[07:44] <Da|Mummy> im stuck with read only filesystem, how do i get out of it?
[07:44] <Church> Da|Mummy: remount rw?
[07:44] <Church> mount /dev/whateverdevice /mountpoint -o rw,remount
[07:46] <szal> Extras doesn't exist for Lucid?
[07:48] <wadkar> Chipzzz: I do not want to reinstall , that will take too much of my _energy_ (lot of custom installation of dev-tools)
[07:49] <JoshuaP> I AMSG'D
[07:49] <wadkar> anyways, enough talking, let me ask gParted and see how it goes
[07:49]  * wadkar fingers crossed *_*
[07:49] <Church> wadkar: then backup enough of things to enable restore of whatever that's important to you
[07:50] <Church> be it data in user home dir, or installed/configured OS
[07:50] <Church> for later, backup files/dirs of OS. bootloader probably can be reinstalled from eg. bootable install media
[07:51] <wadkar> Church: I will still have to recompile from source, and I forgot the custom flags and all, not worried about booloader, i know enough grub-foo to boot my sda5 off sdb1's grub :D
[07:52] <Church> if you restore those files, shouldn't you be left with state you are now with all that custom compiled stuff?
[07:52] <Church> as for future, i suggest to document. many admins forget that (important) step.
[07:53] <Church> might be as simple as copypasting entered commands to download/compile stuff into some .txt file. :)
[07:53] <wadkar> Church: yeah, agreed , completely. But I am not sure if I linked against custom libs, but yeah.   Is there a handy way to get a list of packages from the first machine so I can install them all on the second?
[07:54] <wadkar> s/will/till
[07:54] <Church> wadkar: try boot from other media?
[07:54] <wadkar> how about liveCD ?
[07:54] <wadkar> Church: bingo !
[07:56]  * wadkar slaps his forhead for forgetting that he can has only one extended partition?
[07:56] <Da|Mummy> Church, where do i specify the filesystem in that?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> wadkar: you could try copying sd5 into sd4, booting into sd4 and resizing sd5 to take up the rest of the disk
[07:57] <dbazuin_> I am a mac user who want to give ubuntu a go and i have a machine with xp and citrix on it. What is the easist way to clean that thing and install ubuntu?
[07:57] <langlang_> xchat  lost words.
[07:57] <Church> Da|Mummy: you can of course add -t fstype, but in most cases kernel should autodetect, or read entry from /etc/fstab, no?
[07:58] <wadkar> Chipzzz: perhaps you didnt get my " fdisk -l  /dev/sda " , the sda4 is the hosting extended partition, the logical sda5 is part of extended sda4, i can not have the latter without the former
[07:58] <Church> dbazuin: depends on what you need. eg. some dualboot setup, or linux only box. but in any case i'd backup first.
[07:59] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: you want to add to or remove what is on the machine and go ubuntu?
[07:59] <dbazuin_> Linux only
[07:59] <Orthebox> Hi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take the amd64 or i386 one?
[07:59] <Chipzzz> wadkar: you're right, i didn't...sorry
[07:59] <dbazuin_> Yes almoxarife
[07:59] <Da|Mummy> no go here...mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:59] <dbazuin_> It is a spare
[08:00] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: during the install you are asked something like 'use it all'??, do and the machine will be 100% ubuntu
[08:00] <dbazuin_> Ok so i download it and copy it to the pc
[08:00] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: no,
[08:00] <wadkar> dbazuin_: yes, look for 'use entire disk' or 'automatic partitioning'
[08:00] <Orthebox> Hi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take amd64 or i386?
[08:01] <wadkar> dbazuin_: you will need to burn a CD or figure out Mac way to create USB image
[08:01] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: you d/l the iso, burn to either disk or usb and then install
[08:01] <Church> dbazuin: i'd create install on usb disk for simplicity. and before overwriting everything double check if there isn't something you need that should be backed up
[08:01] <DrPenguin> Orthebox: if your mac has a 64bit proc use 64bit, otherwise use 32
[08:01] <langlang_> how to reslove that problem which is xchat lost words.
[08:01] <dbazuin_> How big need the usb
[08:01] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: 1gig
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Realy?
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Thats easy then
[08:02] <Church> oh. hmm, he has mac? ubuntu will have no problems with booting on that? (i have no experience with whatever custom apple might have put in their macs, even though x86 ones)
[08:02] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: the iso is about 698+-
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Cool
[08:02] <dbazuin_> I want also tomrun lamp
[08:02] <dbazuin_> On it
[08:03] <wadkar> dbazuin_: is the machine Mac or a generic PC with XP+citrix installed ?
[08:03] <dbazuin_> Just a dell
[08:03] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: btw, use the 'alternate' and be hardwired to the internet for the best outcome
[08:04] <Church> hmm, for server? i'd prefer centos to ubuntu probably.
[08:04] <dbazuin_> Ok that is a slide probelem
[08:04] <wadkar> dbazuin_: then you dont have to worry about anything, just go with standard tools, you can find tutorials/guides for LAMP'ing your OS
[08:04] <wadkar> Church: it may not be a production server, so don't have to push the RHEL stack right away
[08:04] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: don't sweat it, go with what you got
[08:04] <dbazuin_> Thanks guys
[08:05] <wadkar> yw
[08:06] <wadkar> ohhk guys, thanks from me too, I will have to figure out a way out on my own on a LiveCD it seems
[08:06] <wadkar> wish me luck -_-
[08:06] <dbazuin_> Somwhow i can only connect to the net with a citrix pc
[08:06] <Church> wadkar: it's just that centos is close enough to rhel. so as we use mostly rhel or oraclelinux for servers, centos often fills role for close enough thing for cheap development/test installs. Lesser the zoo of miscellaneous OSes/releases, less headache with supporting that.
[08:07] <dbazuin_> But we get a seperate line
[08:07] <Church> i don't wish to introduce more OSes to our supported zoo :)
[08:07] <dbazuin_> So better wait for that?
[08:07] <wadkar> Church: agreed , but the OP may not even be considering a production server, he might want to try out LAMP and see whats what
[08:08] <wadkar> Church: I myself installed CentOS 5.7 few weeks ago (with only IUS for PHP-MySQL), works great !
[08:08] <wadkar> dbazuin_: why do you need LAMP stack ? to run a production quality server ?
[08:09] <dbazuin_> No development
[08:09] <dbazuin_> Drupal
[08:09] <wadkar> dbazuin_: will you be managing deployment/production server ?
[08:09] <dbazuin_> I want to se if ubuntu is a good alternative
[08:09] <dbazuin_> No
[08:10] <dbazuin_> The site go to a host when the done
[08:10] <dbazuin_> I hate windows
[08:10] <dbazuin_> Love mac
[08:10] <wadkar> then Ubuntu might be best suited for you (assuming no prior linux experience) , the SysAd of your host will take the burden/headache of configuring your code-base for live production server
[08:10] <wadkar> you go with what feels right for you as a dev
[08:11] <wadkar> let the Ops/SysAd worry about deployment issue
[08:11]  * Church hates 6th release of redhat/centos and alikes though. Less fit for running in xen, and that freaking new upstart init. I had big pile of headache with trying to replicate what i need and had in normal inittab to work in upstart. And from what i heard, in next releases upstart gonna be replaced once again to something else :/
[08:11] <dbazuin_> Or bussiness is pc only
[08:12] <dbazuin_> So when I can not get mac in it i can get ubuntu
[08:13] <dbazuin_> Plus i heard a lot about it lately
[08:14] <dbazuin_> My compliment to you all you a relaxed bunch here love that
[08:14] <Guisepe> hello
[08:16] <Guisepe> aircrack ubuntu 11.10 instaling
[08:17] <lake> How can I list all installed packages?
[08:18] <Church> dpkg --list
[08:19] <atvr> Stanley00: hey, now ive been able to instal it, but i cant boot lol i need to put back the nomodeset command but i dont know how
[08:20] <Church> atvr: at bootloader go to entry of os, type 'e', edit booting line with adding needed options
[08:20] <Stanley00> atvr: dose it show up a menu to choose OS when you power up your PC?
[08:20] <eFfeM> hi, anyone an idea on how to install ruby-sinatra on ubuntu 11.10? It fails because it cannot meet a dependency on ruby-rack (known issue, ubuntu Bug #843734   ) ; seems the package in 11.10 is called libruby-rack
[08:20] <atvr> Stanley00: yes, and i have tryed pressing shift while boot to enter the grub menu
[08:20] <atvr> Stanley00: i have pressed e to edit the command line
[08:21] <atvr> Stanley00: and i think a have to replace something but i dont now what
[08:21] <Stanley00> atvr: then, there a line says linux ... , just add monoset at the end of that line
[08:21] <Stanley00> s/monoset/nomodeset/
[08:22] <atvr> so it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt.
[08:23] <atvr> so it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 s/monoset/nomodeset/
[08:23] <Chipzzz> eFfeM: is the lib in the repo?
[08:23] <atvr> Stanley00: is this correct
[08:24] <Stanley00> atvr: just "linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 nomodeset" :D
[08:25] <eFfeM> Chipzzz: according to Bug #905304   yes (but the name is librack-ruby, not libruby-rack as I wrote before)
[08:26] <eFfeM> no idea how to apt-get install a deb with modifying or ignoring the deps
[08:27] <Stanley00> atvr: and remember to edit the /etc/default/grub or you have to add nomdeset every system startup
[08:29] <Syria> Hi! i was trying to change the sound output device so i can use HDMI but not i have no sound at all!! how can i get the original settings please?
[08:29] <atvr> Stanley00: sorry it didnt work, i think it made my network wifi drop
[08:29] <badboy_jonathan> /dev/audio
[08:30] <almoxarife> Syria: what did you use to change it ?
[08:30] <atvr> Stanley00: do you have an idea about what can i do, the edit didnt work
[08:30] <Syria> almoxarife:  I have changed the hardware from sound preferences and did something with alsamixer!
[08:31] <Stanley00> !nomodeset | atvr , I dont know, you could try this
[08:31] <almoxarife> Syria: something? remember what you did? perhaps mute? look for 'MM' in alsmixer
[08:32] <Chipzzz> eFfeM: aptitude is better at resolving problems like that than apt-get... you might try that
[08:32] <eFfeM> Chipzzz: will try that, thanks
[08:33] <Syria> almoxarife:  master volume and speaker are at 97% but some other values can not be changed, like S/PDIF
[08:33] <almoxarife> Syria: ok, close alsamixer and go to 'sound' preferences
[08:34] <Syria> almoxarife: Done.
[08:34] <almoxarife> Syria: look at 'hardware', what's picked?
[08:34] <Syria> almoxarife: Analog stereo dublex.
[08:34] <Syria> Duplex*
[08:35] <almoxarife> Syria: you looking at hardware tab?
[08:35] <Syria> almoxarife: Yes.
[08:35] <atvr> Stanley00: i cant find anything with that link, but if i try ereasing all what is after quiet splash ans then put nomodeset, do you think it will work
[08:36] <almoxarife> Syria: the first text line is "Analog stereo duplex' ???
[08:37] <Syria> almoxarife: Nope, it is the last one.
[08:37] <Stanley00> atvr: I last think I can think of now if clear "qiuet splash", add "nomodeset" to see what happen, then search for that info in the internet
[08:37] <almoxarife> Syria: how about the first?
[08:37] <Syria> almoxarife: The first one is analog stereo input.
[08:38] <almoxarife> Syria: those are the 'profile' choices?
[08:39] <Syria> almoxarife: I am at the hardware tab and I have >> settings for the selected device>> its a drop down menu.
[08:40] <antipragmatist> Hi.
[08:40] <antipragmatist> Your version is: java version "1.6.0_23".
[08:40] <antipragmatist> The correct version is: Java SE 1.6.
[08:41] <almoxarife> Syria: above that, 'device to configure' what is highlited?
[08:41] <atvr> Stanley00: so i did that, and now i have this written on the screen, ``vincent"vincent-Satellite-L745D:
[08:41] <antipragmatist> how do I force it to think it is 1.6
[08:41] <atvr> Stanley00: and it scrap my wifi conection every time im trying to boot :S
[08:42] <Syria> almoxarife: I can control which device to configure from the drop down menu below. anyway i have analog stereo duplex.
[08:42] <Stanley00> atvr: anything else? that line doesnt look like an error message.
[08:42] <almoxarife> Syria: I am looking at the screen from 11.10, and you?
[08:42] <Stanley00> atvr: can you disable the wifi interface when booting? looks like it's not the video card issue
[08:42] <Eartaker> anyone know how to setup dual monitors so that it wont split a fullscreen game onto both monitors but also when not in game to be able to drag applications from one monitor to another.. I have tried seterate X screen and twin view...
[08:43] <Syria> almoxarife:  11.04
[08:43] <massrevivalist> Does anyone want to be my friend?
[08:43] <Syria> almoxarife: I will show you a screenshot.
[08:43] <atvr> Stanley00: at the end of the line i can put some command
[08:43] <ubluntu> massrevivalist: I do
[08:43] <atvr> Stanley00: i cant disable the wifi
[08:43] <massrevivalist> Nice
[08:44] <Syria> almoxarife: Please: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321032882.png
[08:44] <almoxarife> Syria: lets see the 'output' tab
[08:45] <Syria> almoxarife: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321130638.png
[08:46] <dahlia> I see a little message come up that says updates are available for my freshly installed kubuntu but I dont see any way to tell it to install them
[08:46] <Stanley00> atvr: I think it's out of my ability  now, sorry, you should ask someone else. sorry. I have never met this kind of issue.
[08:46] <dahlia> is there an update manager thing somewhere?
[08:46] <almoxarife> Syria: alrighty, dummy-output came from ??
[08:47] <Syria> almoxarife: analog stereo duplex.
[08:47] <almoxarife> Syria: nope
[08:47] <Syria> almoxarife: where did it come from?
[08:48] <almoxarife> Syria: where is the hdmi hardware you brought up before?
[08:48] <Syria> almoxarife: I have an HDMI port in my laptop.
[08:52] <atvr> Stanley00: Stanley00: not it says, to run a command as administrator (user ``root``), use ``sudo (command)``
[08:53] <atvr> Stanley00: and i just dont know why its fuckking my wifi
[08:53] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, looks like some thing it says on the live USB. how did you install this, and what iso image did you use
[08:53] <almoxarife> Syria: I have hdmi and analog, I see both on my setup, I only see one piece of 'hardware' , 'internal audio analog' on yours, and where I would expect to see the same 'internal..................' in 'output' I see 'dummy....' , that does not just happen by virgin birth, something was done to cause that,
[08:54] <atvr> Stanley00: ive installed by a usb boot stick and ive use the alternative .iso from ubuntu
[08:55] <Stanley00> atvr: did you install a full desktop or just the command system only?
[08:55] <almoxarife> Syria: try to logout/in and look for a default setup, you can hope
[08:55] <atvr> Stanley00: full desktop
[08:56] <Syria> almoxarife: I will, Thank you for your time. :)
[08:58] <atvr> Stanley00: would it be easyier if i would download the not alternative iso, and burn it on a cd and to instal it put the nomodeset command
[08:59] <Stanley00> atvr: I dont get it, if you use an alternate cd to install, it will not need the nomodeset parameter, since it wont boot in GUI.
[09:00] <antipragmatist> how to kill package manager build?
[09:00] <antipragmatist> it is stalled
[09:00] <antipragmatist> how to kill package manager install ?
[09:00] <Stanley00> atvr: if you could boot into the command line interface, you may run "startx" to start GUI, and then find for some wifi issue in the internet.
[09:00] <almoxarife> Stanley00: have you used the 'alternate' install?
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[09:00] <Stanley00> atvr: I'm not good at hardware problem.
[09:01] <Stanley00> almoxarife: I use that once, with 9.10 :D
[09:01] <almoxarife> Stanley00: that's all I ever use, and it will take you to a gui after install
[09:02] <almoxarife> Stanley00: the 'alternate' is for quirky setups, and if you read up something written after 9.10 you will find that it is recommended for just that!
[09:05] <almoxarife> anyone else getting the ssl handshake error? got a fix?
[09:05] <Stanley00> almoxarife: and... what are you trying to point out? I dont get it.
[09:07] <almoxarife> Stanley00: I was pointing out that you were offering opinion on something you have no experience with, as you made clear when you brought up '............. 9.10 smily'
[09:08] <Stanley00> almoxarife: I didnt said anything about alternate cd with him, and also alternate cd has option to install CLI, and he said he cant boot into gui, so I just make sure he installed a full desktop.
[09:09] <atvr> Stanley00: i have a cd with ubuntu 9.04 on it, do you want me to instal this version to see if it will work, and if it work i will update to 11.10
[09:10] <sweb> my wireless card disappear !!!
[09:11] <Stanley00> atvr: I dont think that's a good idea.
[09:11] <beyondcr> hello could you point me to the 12.04 channel?
[09:11] <Stanley00> !pangolin | beyondcr
[09:11] <beyondcr> thanks
[09:11] <sweb> WTF dlink-dwa-525
[09:11] <atvr> Stanley00: i know but for now i just dont know what to do
[09:11] <sweb> on ubuntu
[09:11] <sweb> how can i debuging that ?
[09:12] <beyondcr> #ubuntu+1
[09:12] <Stanley00> almoxarife: can you suggest something, atvr's wifi not working, and freeze his system
[09:12] <JackDacks> Hello everyone. Sorry to bother you but I'm wondering if you know any Backtrack IRC channel/server ?
[09:12] <almoxarife> Stanley00: that's my point, 'alternate' IS a full desktop install, the bonus is that it was made for QUIRKY hardware, so as to facilitate in getting the install done 100% , it does ask that you be connected to the internet via hardwire
[09:13] <Stanley00> !alis | JackDacks I dont know, but try this
[09:13] <JackDacks> thank you
[09:13] <atvr> almoxarife: so it would be better for my to install with the non-alternative version
[09:13] <atvr> me**
[09:14] <almoxarife> atvr: no, it would be best if you use the 'alternate'  and be connected to the internet via ethernet. can you do that?
[09:14] <meco> Where do I find Google Chrome on my system?
[09:15] <atvr> almoxarife: no i am on a laptop i would prefer using wi-fi
[09:15] <ChefBaggins> almoxarife, atvr, sorry to jump into your conversation but wouldn't it be better to start with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS if it's the first use?
[09:15] <atvr> Stanley00: if my windows running un 64bit, can i download ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[09:15] <ChefBaggins> meco: you must download it wia google
[09:15] <meco> ChefBaggins: I have it, just need to locate it
[09:15] <JackDacks> Thank you for your help. Have a good day. Bye
[09:15] <almoxarife> atvr: good luck
[09:16] <Stanley00> atvr: yes, you can
[09:16] <atvr> Stanley00: okep i will try to install it via a burnt cd and with the non alternative ios, maybe it will work
[09:17] <ChefBaggins> meco: have you installed it? if not it would be in your download folder, if you did in internet section of application (I do thing you've been there therefore, check "edit menus" if it's not present)
[09:17] <meco> ChefBaggins: I need to find it in terminal...
[09:17] <ChefBaggins> meco, we're getting there! :D google-chrome
[09:18] <Stanley00> atvr: good luck, but you can use the USB to install, it's just the same as the liveCD, there's a tool on the homepage to make liveUSB from window
[09:18] <almoxarife> ChefBaggins: I noticed that I was able to get hdmi to work out of the box with the 11.04 install, using 'alternate' , but not 11.10, not sure about 10.04 , if he upgrades those things always screw something up (my experience)
[09:18] <meco> ChefBaggins: google-chrome: command not found
[09:19] <almoxarife> !chromium-browser
[09:19] <almoxarife> !info chromium-browser
[09:19] <meco> almoxarife: found it :-)
[09:20] <almoxarife> meco: chromium is not chrome, just in case
[09:20] <quiescens> i sense people are misinterpreting the question
[09:21] <almoxarife> quiescens: my god? here? I can't believe that
[09:21] <almoxarife> smily face
[09:21] <meco> almoxarife: Does Google have more than one browser?
[09:23] <Eartaker> anyone know wht no matter what disk i put in my drive it askes me to insert disk when I try to bun an iso?
[09:23] <Eartaker> why*
[09:23] <almoxarife> meco: depends I guess, chrome is the store model, and chromium is their testbed, sort of the same thing but not, I use chromium and accept that things might go wrong
[09:23] <atvr> does anyone haved an issue installing ubuntu 11.10 with a amd radeon graphic card
[09:24] <meco> almoxarife: OK, I just need it for temporary use until I can get firefox back up...
[09:24] <Eartaker> atvr: install 10.04
[09:25] <almoxarife> meco: dude/ette, chromium is steak to firefox
[09:25] <atvr> Eartaker: do you think it will be working fine cuz its a 1month old laptop
[09:25] <Eartaker> atvr: what issues are you havving
[09:25] <Eartaker> having
[09:25] <meco> almoxarife: steak? better or worse?
[09:25] <almoxarife> atvr: you must have a ethernet connection on that beast, why not connect it while installing
[09:26] <man_man_top_cool> bonjour à tous
[09:26] <almoxarife> meco: better :)
[09:26] <cockmaster> Is it possible to dual-boot Ubuntu with Mac OS X Lion on a Macintosh computer?
[09:26] <meco> almoxarife: Is that everyone's opinion?
[09:26] <atvr> Eartaker: black screen, it does not detect my screen, and it fuck up my wifi
[09:26] <Hordeking> Hey, is there a known issue with the Wifi Broadcom drivers for the 4312 LP-PHY? I'm having major issues, with fresh installations.
[09:26] <man_man_top_cool> sorry, l have only windows
[09:27] <man_man_top_cool> my english is not good
[09:27] <atvr> almoxarife: i could plug into ethernet while installing but after could i use my wifi
[09:27] <almoxarife> meco: sort of, according to the polling people, its getting ahead of firefox and IE, ie??? yeah, hard to believe
[09:27] <Hordeking> I'm getting ready to roll back to the 10.10 LTS version.
[09:27] <almoxarife> atvr: yes, that will work
[09:27] <man_man_top_cool> nobody is french here ?
[09:27] <almoxarife> Hordeking: from where?
[09:27] <meco> almoxarife: Yeah.. I might have to switch then...
[09:28] <atvr> almoxarife: okep then do you suggest me to instal 10.04 instead of 11.10
[09:28] <ChefBaggins> cockmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[09:28] <Hordeking> almoxarife: From where? From the official ubuntu website,
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> almostroot, france
[09:28] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: oui, moi
[09:28] <Hordeking> It "just worked" before 11.10
[09:28] <almoxarife> atvr: nope, be strong, do ittttttttttttttttt
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> ah
[09:28] <Hordeking> I skipped 11.04
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> ouf
[09:28] <cockmaster> ChefBaggins: Thank you kindly.
[09:29] <almoxarife> Hordeking: no, I mean from what version are you downgrading?
[09:29] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: vient sur #ubuntu-fr ce sera plus simple
[09:29] <man_man_top_cool> ChefBaggins, je cherche un site pour vuze
[09:29] <Hordeking> almoxarife: 11.10
[09:29] <Ben64> how can you downgrade
[09:29] <Hordeking> Ben64: Easy. Blow away the OS, install an earlier version.
[09:30] <Ben64> thats reinstalling
[09:30] <almoxarife> Hordeking: may I suggest not, try plasma-desktop, its 10.04 with the 3.0 kernel
[09:30] <atvr> almoxarife: XD so will instal a fresh copy of 11.10 and plug into the ethernet, but i will have the black screen issue do you, so does the nomodeset is ok, becaus that the way i was able to instal it earlyier today
[09:30] <Hordeking> Ben64: Call it what you want, but the current version is BADly broken.
[09:30] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: que veux-tu dire par un site pour Vuze?
[09:30] <Ben64> Hordeking: i 'upgraded' from 10.04 to 12.04... big mistake
[09:30] <kerryb> first time I've tried ubuntu.... i tried 11.10, didn't like it.....tried 10.04, it's much better
[09:30] <Hordeking> almoxarife: What does plasma-desktop do?
[09:30] <The_Phoenix> Which one is the 64bit torrent? AMD64? Isn't it AMD only?
[09:30] <almoxarife> atvr: and you will use the 'alternate' iso, too
[09:30] <pp7> kerryb: LOL y?
[09:31] <atvr> almoxarife: and my pc work on 64bit do you recomend me to use ubuntu 64bit, and the non alternative or the alternative
[09:31] <Ben64> i haven't seen such a broken ubuntu since Gutsy Gibbon
[09:31] <pp7> Ben64: upgrades never work
[09:31] <almoxarife> Hordeking: gives you all that config you had with 10.04
[09:31] <Ben64> pp7: sure they do
[09:31] <quiescens> downgrading the distribution as a whole is not recommended and unlikely to have anyone support it
[09:31] <pp7> Ben64: always failed for me, something always breaks
[09:31] <quiescens> of course you made backups before trying to upgrade to an in development release
[09:31] <kerryb> pp7:  probably because i'm still using windows classic which is more similar to windows 98 LOL
[09:31] <almoxarife> atvr: use the alternate 64 install
[09:32] <Ben64> pp7: on this computer, i went Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy with no problems
[09:32] <quiescens> which isn't due out for 4 or so months
[09:32] <atvr> almoxarife: but after i have installed the 11.10 with nomodeset i was not able to boot again even if i had edit the grub comand
[09:32] <almoxarife> atvr: use the alternate 64 install and you promised to be hardwired to the internet
[09:32] <Hordeking> almoxarife: I don't need a special config. I just want working wifi. Right now, I have to do constant ifconfig <interface> down; ifconfig <interface> up
[09:32] <pp7> Ben64: oh, i started at hardy
[09:32] <The_Phoenix> Anybody? Am looking for Ubuntu 64 bit torrent for Intel. Which is the right one?
[09:33] <Ben64> I had really bad experiences with Gutsy, going to stick with LTS versions now
[09:33] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: the amd64 version
[09:33] <libnotify> I am looking into building a small shell account server. any way i can configure the server so that users are able to download what they need but not change system settings?
[09:33] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: Isn't AMD64 for AMD only?
[09:33] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: nope
[09:33] <jpds> The_Phoenix: No.
[09:33] <Church> Phoenix: as most cpus from amd and intel know support 64bit, i'd probably choose depending on ram ammount. upto 2-3GB - i386 version, 4 and more - amd64.
[09:33] <Ben64> amd was first with 64 bit, so they win
[09:33] <almoxarife> atvr: screw all that terminal stuff till it comes up, for the love of god, just get the install out of the way, btw, those install options are pretty generic, don't get carried away with exotics during the install, straight forward put system on machine
[09:34] <Hordeking> I really didn't think wireless was going to regress with a fresh install up to 11.10.
[09:34] <Ben64> Hordeking: wait, what happened with your wireless?
[09:34] <fidel> libnotify: what do you mean by "downloading what they need"?
[09:34] <The_Phoenix> I have 4GB. But, the AMD64 and Intel64 have slight differences.
[09:34] <NimeshNeema> !man ubottu
[09:34] <Hordeking> Ben64: Hardware is probably fine. OS seems to have major issues with it now.
[09:35] <NimeshNeema> !man
[09:35] <The_Phoenix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_64
[09:35] <NimeshNeema> !apt
[09:35] <Ben64> Hordeking: on 10.04 my laptop was doing fine with wireless, on 12.04 i'm getting ~10% of the throughput as 10.04 did
[09:35] <atvr> almoxarife: okay i will try to install it right away i will download the alternative installation, and if i have issue regarding the black screen can i ask you some help
[09:35] <quiescens> The_Phoenix: the biggest difference being that nothing actually uses intel's IA64 these days
[09:35] <almoxarife> Hordeking: during an install ubuntu calls back to mama, well it would unless you got wifi and its secured
[09:35] <jpds> The_Phoenix: Intel 64 is something completely different.
[09:35] <Hordeking> Ben64: My wireless was flawless with 10.10, but cam barely stay up.
[09:35] <libnotify> fidel: mean if they like want to install console apps
[09:35] <jpds> The_Phoenix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium
[09:35] <Ben64> Hordeking: intel wireless chip perchance?
[09:36] <almoxarife> atvr: sure
[09:36] <Hordeking> Ben64: broadcom. Was working fine for 9.04 through 10.10
[09:36] <The_Phoenix> Anyway, thanks for the clarification Ben64, jpds and quiescens. Am just trying to get the 64 bit version for a Sandy Bridge i3.
[09:36] <cockmaster> Can I somehow hack a way to port Ubuntu's apt-get to Mac OS X?
[09:36] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: the amd64 version is what you want then
[09:36] <fidel> libnotify: i doubt you are willing to give shell-users access to apt
[09:36] <atvr> almoxarife: my hardware is a amd vision a6 so does i have to download the 64bit-pc amd64
[09:36] <The_Phoenix> thanks Ben64.
[09:37] <libnotify> yes exactly
[09:37] <Hordeking> I'm very surprised my wifi hasn't needed a reset yet...
[09:37] <almoxarife> atvr: you want the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'
[09:37] <Ben64> i wonder what changed for wireless to break
[09:37] <Hordeking> Ben64: Possibly the kernel itself?
[09:38] <almoxarife> Hordeking: are you using wifi(n)?
[09:38] <Hordeking> Ben64: I saw something like that.
[09:38] <libnotify> so there is no way to give them access to apt but they are unable to make system changes?
[09:38] <fidel> libnotify: how about adding a custom welcome message including a mailadress a la<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and handle that part manually in case someone really needs something?
[09:38] <Ben64> Hordeking: i guess it could be...
[09:38] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Not that I know of.
[09:38] <atvr> almoxarife: okep, and one last thing lol would it be possible for you to give me a direct link for the download only to make sure i really have the good thing
[09:38] <Ben64> I should try compiling an older kernel
[09:38] <Hordeking> almoxarife: My router is a WRT54GL
[09:38] <cockmaster> Is it possbile to install some version of Ubuntu on an iPad?
[09:39] <Hordeking> almoxarife: It was certainly working before I took the OS up to 11.10
[09:39] <almoxarife> atvr: nope, I would be doing the same thing you need to do, I will be glad to verify your link though
[09:40] <atvr> almoxarife: http://ubuntu-cd.mirror.iweb.ca/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[09:40] <Hordeking> almoxarife: There do seem to be major wifi issues with Ubuntu 11+
[09:40] <almoxarife> Hordeking: I don't use wifi at home, wife does though, so I use her as a test-bed (she don't know it) , and the router has a lot to do with the quality of the wifi
[09:41] <Ben64> almoxarife: my wireless has gotten very bad after upgrading too
[09:41] <almoxarife> atvr: looks good, torrent would be faster but good
[09:41] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection.  Like some Android tablet but Ubuntu instead?
[09:42] <pp7> cockmaster: refine your language please
[09:42] <almoxarife> atvr: d/l it regular method
[09:42] <atvr> almoxarife: okep
[09:42] <kerryb> my only internet acces is dialup....do i need to download a package to use dialup? which package do i use?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/comm/
[09:43] <almoxarife> !ops
[09:43] <atvr> almoxarife: thanks alot for your time
[09:43] <ngochoan> co ai ngyuo
[09:43] <ngochoan> nguoi vietnam ko////////////
[09:43] <almoxarife> cockmaster: you need to go
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <FloodBot1> ngochoan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <cockmaster> almoxarife: Why?
[09:43] <pp7> cockmaster: racial remarks are not welcome
[09:44] <cockmaster> Ok, sorry. Where are the #ubuntu rules to read?
[09:44] <elky> cockmaster, in the /topic
[09:44] <ChefBaggins> cockmaster: yes there is a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet, the best for you is to google that...
[09:45] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection. I get a downright intermittent one, and it's only solved by resetting the interface with ifconfig.  The wifi issue is with a laptop computer, where ethernet isn't a very viable option.
[09:49] <quiescens> ..
[09:49] <Eartaker> its not seeing my disk drive
[09:49] <Eartaker> but im I insert a disk it pops up and mounts
[09:50] <Eartaker> not for a blank disk though
[09:50] <Humbedooh> how would you mount a blank disk anywho :<
[09:50] <Eartaker> i guess you woulding but im trying to burn a iso
[09:50] <jonsaint> hi all. i got pidgin messenger which i just set up. problem i got is i got one single box telling me no accounts set up and to go to accounts to add one. problem is, i cant find out how to get there as i only got this single box telling me that
[09:50] <Hordeking> I'll probably just blow the current OS away and roll back to 11.10. I didn't care for the fact that I had to go to so much trouble to get gnome back anyway.
[09:51] <Hordeking> Roll back to 10.10
[09:51] <almoxarife> Eartaker: nevermind seeing it, what are you trying to do with your blank?
[09:51] <Eartaker> almoxarife: trying to burn a iso
[09:51] <Humbedooh> k3b is your friend :>
[09:51] <Humbedooh> or gnomebaker
[09:51] <almoxarife> Eartaker: brasero?
[09:51] <Humbedooh> or brasero
[09:51] <Eartaker> I have tried K3b but it dosnt see it
[09:51] <Eartaker> and brasero
[09:52] <Eartaker> K3b says this:
[09:52] <Eartaker> K3b did not find any optical device in your system.
[09:52] <Eartaker> Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices.
[09:52] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: are you that much in love with gnome?
[09:52] <almoxarife> Eartaker: brasero does not see the drive with the blank in it?
[09:52] <Eartaker> almoxarife: nope
[09:53] <Hordeking>  mysteriousdarren: I like my desktop real estate, and I kind of like having the taskbars :) But wifi is the killer here.
[09:53] <almoxarife> Hordeking: join #kubuntu for a sec
[09:53] <Hordeking> almoxarife: #kubuntu
[09:54] <Eartaker> my disk drive is also not in "computer"
[09:55] <NimeshNeema> apt
[09:55] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: well switch to a different de and then there is no reason to roll back
[09:56] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, It may be a "+RW, -RW", issue; I have two 'burners (a +RW and a -RW) and sometimes a blank will only work (be seen) by one.
[09:56] <Eartaker> Sidewinder1: its a cd-r
[09:56] <Eartaker> not dvdv
[09:56] <Eartaker> dvd
[09:56] <NimeshNeema> how to install java on 11.10
[09:58] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, R stands fro 'read' W stands for 'write', those designations are used on both CDs and DVDs.
[09:58] <pooja> NimeshNeema: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[09:58] <Sidewinder1> for, even; 'tis early here. :-)
[09:58] <Eartaker> Sidewinder1: i know this... its not hardware it works fine in windows
[09:59] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: what are you problems with wifi?
[09:59] <Hordeking> I can't even figure that out. It just goes down a lot, for no reason. I have to do an ifconfig down on it, then an ifconfig up to get it back.
[10:00] <Hordeking> It seems to do it more when I'm actually using the connection, though
[10:00] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, Actually I think I made a mistake (fancy that), the W means re-writable, sorry.
[10:01] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: It wasn't having this problem on 10.10, so I highly doubt it's a hardware problem.
[10:03] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: I don't recall dmesg giving any illumination
[10:03] <mysteriousdarren> reinstall the driver?
[10:04] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: I've tried. I've tried just reinstalling the OS itself. I've tried the b43-fwcutter and stuff, etc
[10:04] <ciphersson> suck my balls unity
[10:06] <mysteriousdarren> ciphersson: even though I do agree with that statement better watch it
[10:07] <kerryb> does ubuntu support a dialup connection?
[10:08] <mrhanky> i have a ubuntu net-install with xorg and xbmc. since xbmc crashed one time ubuntu wont boot, it will hang with the message "mountall: disconnected from plymouth"
[10:08] <mrhanky> that's the second time this is happening and i have no idea how to fix it
[10:09] <Sidewinder1> !modem | kerryb
[10:09] <kerryb> ubottu thanks!
[10:10] <Sidewinder1> :D
[10:12] <Sidewinder1> Finally, someone who's spelling is worse than mine. ;-)
[10:19] <mikeru> hey, how can I recompile the alsa drivers?
[10:19] <mikeru> (I only want to recompile the snd-hda-codec-cirrus one)
[10:20] <chromaticwt> will the next release of ubuntu use python 3 by default instead of python 2?
[10:20] <oCean> chromaticwt: you can discuss the next release in #ubuntu+1 channel
[10:21] <mikeru> I'm on 11.10. I tried apt-get source alsa-drivers, patched the patch_cirrus.c file (a minor tweak, changing the GPIO1 to 2 for the iMac's headphone jack to work) and when I debuild'd and installed the packages it told me to install m-a to compile the drivers
[10:21] <mikeru> I did
[10:21] <mikeru> but
[10:21] <chromaticwt> ok
[10:21] <ariefage> i have blackbuntu
[10:21] <ariefage> i'm from indonesia
[10:21] <ariefage> hi all
[10:21] <mikeru> compile fails with <linux/smp_lock.h> not found (which is no longer needed)
[10:22] <oCean> ariefage: please not that blackbuntu is not a supported ubuntu derivative, and offtopic here
[10:22] <oCean> please note*
[10:22] <mikeru> I can't help but wonder -- with what sources do the ubuntu maintaners build packages? aren't the source packages supposed to be the same as the one used by them?
[10:23] <atotclic> !voice es
[10:23] <linxeh> mikeru: you could grep the source to find where else that file is referenced
[10:23] <mikeru> it does include patches in the debian dir but most of them actually break compilation even more (and some actually add the <linux/smp_lock.h> to the sources)
[10:24] <mikeru> linxeh: yes I did. then I had to edit some @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELSRC@ to @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELDIR@
[10:24] <mikeru> and then, I stumbled upon some #include "imgs/cssomethng.h" which can't be found
[10:24] <mikeru> and indeed, there's no imgs folder.
[10:24] <mikeru> (and there are like 4 includes to files in that dir)
[10:25] <oCean> mikeru: you could ask in #ubuntu-devel channel
[10:25] <mikeru> oCean: ok, will do. thanks
[10:26] <hrolf> Why is the difference between the normal Firefox and the one installed in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <atotclic> !voice <voice name>
[10:29] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, I would assume that "normal" FF is windows based and the latter linux based; different directory structure, different plug-ins, etc..
[10:30] <atotclic> !voice spanish
[10:30] <oCean> atotclic: what are you looking for?
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> !es | atotclic
[10:30] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: By 'windows based' do you mean MS Windows OS?
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Yes.
[10:31] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, I'm assuming that's what you meant by 'normal.'
[10:32] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: If the other one is for Linux, then why is it Ubuntu only. Shouldn't it be like Firefox for Linux rather than Firefox for Ubuntu
[10:33] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: I think it is mostly like something with Ubuntu
[10:34] <flux242> hi, i'm trying the following diff <$(grep some strings myFile) <$(grep some string myFile2)
[10:34] <flux242> what is the right syntax for this?
[10:34] <flux242> or how it is called correctlry so i google for it
[10:35] <samba35> how to add mod_proxy_html in apache
[10:35] <flux242> that a command output is interpreted as a file descriptor
[10:36] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Perhaps have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox  It states that it's linux compatible as well as other OSs.. Most certainly not an exclusive ubuntu browser regarding it's *nix varient.
[10:37] <atvr> i need to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop with a usb boot stick, how do i format my hdd
[10:37] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: I know that. I think you didn't understand the problem (or I failed to explain it.)
[10:38] <iceroot> atvr: why not using the recommend layout ubuntu will suggest?
[10:38] <acer_> arif
[10:38] <acer_> heloo
[10:39] <hrolf> atvr: Get Ubuntu on your USB stick and then, during installation you will be able to format your HDD as you desire.
[10:39] <ekakela> atvr: the installer lets you partition and format your drive during the installation
[10:39] <atvr> iceroot: cuz i am installing with the alternative version and the only thing i can do is rescue the previos version
[10:39] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Perhaps you're correct; it's early, here and I need my second cup-o-coffee. Please feel free to restate your question.. BRB.
[10:39] <oCean> flux242: I'm not sure how to do that in a oneliner. You could do a  grep strings file1 > grep1.out  and same for file2, then run  diff grep1.out grep2.out
[10:39] <sl1ck> I've fallen in love with LXDE! I regret not trying it any sooner.
[10:39] <atvr> i am new to linux
[10:39] <nixmaniack> i have USB Mouse attached which I can see in `lsusb`, how can identify which file from this "/sys/bus/usb/devices" directory belongs to mouse?
[10:39] <atvr> could you exlaine me step by step the how to, it would be very apreciated
[10:40] <hrolf> atvr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:40] <iceroot> atvr: the alternate should offer "kill all data on the hdd and make a new install"
[10:41] <flux242> ok, I've found the correct syntax
[10:41] <sl1ck> How do I switch keyboard layouts in LXDE?
[10:41] <almoxarife> atvr: you don't need to format a thing, if the usb is ready then start the install
[10:41] <jbuchanan> sl1ck: xmodmap would probably be easiest.
[10:41]  * WiLd_TuRkeY dies from to much technology
[10:42] <atvr> when i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing
[10:42] <sl1ck> thanks jbuchanan, now how do I add a second keyboard layout?
[10:42] <szal> hmm..  how do I browse network shares w/ Thunar (XFCE; Lucid)?
[10:43] <almoxarife> atvr: you are using the live cd?
[10:43] <ariefage> www.blackbuntu.com
[10:43] <atvr> almoxarife: yes with a usb
[10:43] <ariefage> download it!
[10:43] <oCean> ariefage: don't post that here
[10:43] <ariefage> this great
[10:43] <ariefage> upss.
[10:43] <ariefage> sorry
[10:43] <ariefage> im new here
[10:44] <atvr> almoxarife: i am at the installer boot menu
[10:44] <ariefage> sorry sorry
[10:44] <almoxarife> atvr: ok, so that's the live cd on usb
[10:45] <atvr> almoxarife: yes it is
[10:45] <linkux> how i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:45] <atvr> almoxarife: you suggest me to put it on my usb to instal it do you remember lol and you suggest me too plus into the ethernet for the installation too
[10:46] <atvr> plug**
[10:46] <linkux> need help how i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:47] <linkux> need help how i can install themes from http://art.gnome.org/ on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:47] <Church> linkux: you could simply google for that instead of repeating question
[10:47] <theadmin> !repeat | linkux
[10:47] <almoxarife> atvr: I remember suggesting the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'
[10:47] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[10:47] <oCean> Church: please don't refer to google here, thanks
[10:47] <Church> hmm, why? :/
[10:47] <theadmin> !google | Church
[10:48] <linkux> ok thanks
[10:48] <atvr> almoxarife: so how do i instal it
[10:49] <almoxarife> atvr: no idea, you have the livecd install according to what you just said earlier
[10:50] <silus> !ops ClubHOuSe fucker!!
[10:50] <silus> :)))
[10:50] <FloodBot1> silus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <atvr> almoxarife: i dont know if its the live cd instal, my screen is in black and white and to choose the option i have to use the keyboard
[10:51] <Sidewinder1> !ru | silus
[10:51] <silus> no need
[10:51] <bazhang> silus, why do you call that
[10:52] <troydm> what's the best way to connect to host using ssh when you have a bunch of keys in keychain that are getting offered and server hits too many authentication errors?
[10:52] <silus> i`m new here just want to see iff it works
[10:52] <troydm> is it possible to explicitly specify with-password option ?
[10:52] <atvr> almoxarife: i will try somthing, i have a cd here that make me able to format the hdd so i will format and then try to instal it, does that sound good
[10:52] <troydm> instead of offerening all those keys
[10:52] <pnorman> troydm: It's possible to set up ssh to only offer a specified key or use a password
[10:52] <almoxarife> atvr: (02:42:19) atvr: when i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing <-- I don't believe 'try' is an option of alternate
[10:52] <Sidewinder1> silus, Guess you got your answer. :)
[10:53] <troydm> pnorman: yes, using -I  iguess?
[10:53] <bazhang> silus, it's only for channel emergencies, don't do that again
[10:53] <atvr> almoxarife: but i have downloaded the alternat version, and in the .iso it says alternat
[10:53] <troydm> pnorman: but what if i want password authentication
[10:53] <pnorman> troydm: You can either do it in ~/.ssh/config or with a command line option. The exact syntax escapes me
[10:53] <silus> ok bazhang :_)
[10:56] <atvr> almoxarife: it dont says try it but run it on this usb, sorry for that
[10:56] <WiLd_TuRkeY> got my first mention on twitter from the homenaway :D
[10:56] <oCean> WiLd_TuRkeY: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[10:56] <troydm> found it
[10:56] <troydm> alias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"
[10:56] <WiLd_TuRkeY> sorry oCean thort i was in another general chat-room
[10:57] <pnorman> troydm: Ah, there you go. You might want to look at setting up your ssh config to not offer so many keys up to unspecified hosts
[10:57] <almoxarife> atvr: what did you use to place the iso on the usb?
[10:58] <troydm> pnorman: yeah that might be another way
[10:58] <nigelb> Hi, what's the right way to get rid of this dpkg error for this package? I don't care about the package, I'm happy to remove it http://paste.ubuntu.com/788733/
[10:58] <atvr> almoxarife: uneversal usb installer, ive download it on ubuntu web site
[11:01] <silus> what is that line ?
[11:01] <silus> alias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"
[11:01] <pnorman> silus: that was what troydm used for his ssh problem
[11:02] <silus> what was his ssh problem?
[11:02] <troydm> silus: it's an alias (basicly shortcut) to a full command
[11:02] <pnorman> silus: too many keys
[11:03] <troydm> silus: of ssh password only authentication
[11:03] <silus> to many keys so what?
[11:03] <pnorman> silus: ssh can authenticate with keys instead of passwords
[11:03] <silus> .ssh is login telenet and all the passwords?
[11:03] <silus> and can`t go wild?
[11:03] <troydm> silus: when i try to use ssh to connect to host instead of offering me to type password it rejects my connections
[11:04] <troydm> silus: because my ssh is offerening him a lot of keys
[11:04] <troydm> silus: before offerening password
[11:04] <silus> is a ubuntu problem?
[11:05] <silus> yes i found this problem to.
[11:05] <troydm> silus: no sorry, it's general type of problem
[11:05] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone here familiar in reading S.M.A.R.T data?
[11:05] <pnorman> silus: it's an odd problem to have. using key based authentication isn't too uncommon, but having too many keys isn't too frequent
[11:05] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: what's your question
[11:05] <idaix> bonjour
[11:06] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: i will paste my smart data here, can you tell be what is the status of my harddisk?
[11:06] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: use pastebin or something, smart data can be fairly long.
[11:06] <Thorne> How do I fix this long wait for network configuration..  Waiting upto 60 seconds  etc... .
[11:06] <silus> pnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:06] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya sure
[11:07] <pnorman> silus: Not sure what you're asking. It's unlikely you have the same problem troydm had.
[11:07] <silus> pnorman i have this problem on 2 servers
[11:07] <Thorne> hmm
[11:07] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788738/
[11:07] <troydm> silus: can you ask your question again
[11:08] <troydm> silus: cause i can't find it in chat history
[11:09] <silus> pnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:09] <silus> troydm.. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:09] <pnorman> silus: What is the this you talk about?
[11:09] <blinky> hello
[11:09] <silus> you can`t insert the password.
[11:09] <troydm> silus: by "get's you out" you mean it just rejects connection using ssh ?
[11:09] <blinky> i got a question for you guys
[11:10] <silus> the system after you inserted the usernames get`s you out.
[11:10] <troydm> silus: ohh, you are trying to use root password or simple user?
[11:10] <troydm> s/root password/root i mean
[11:10] <silus> bouth
[11:10] <pnorman> silus: what's the command you're using to try to connect?
[11:11] <silus> I use putty
[11:11] <Sidewinder1> !ask | blinky
[11:11] <troydm> silus: simple vanilla ubuntu installation without any tinkering of ssh?
[11:11] <silus> on win xp..
[11:11] <silus> dunou man
[11:11] <blinky> sure, thank you sidewinder and ubottu
[11:11] <silus> i don`t really install them
[11:11] <troydm> can you do ssh -v yourssh@yourip
[11:11] <silus> only update them.
[11:11] <troydm> and copy paste the output to pastebin
[11:12] <blinky> my question is
[11:12] <pnorman> silus: exactly what are you putting into the Host Name field in putty?
[11:12] <blinky> is the ssh links (https) traced by the isp?
[11:12] <atvr> in rescue mode can i format or delet partition
[11:12] <troydm> silus: you are using putty? then get it's log and see what the error is?
[11:12] <silus> I have things to do right now. not really for searching the 2 servers of the 1000 i have. se ya next year with this problem.
[11:12] <silus> have a good night.
[11:13] <silus> let the party starting@!! :_)
[11:13] <pnorman> blinky: an ISP could track where you're SSHing to, but that wouldn't enable them to sniff the connection
[11:13] <oCean> blinky: https is ssl, not ssh. And I think the ##security channel would be more appropriate to ask
[11:13] <blinky> pnorman, then how do i block the isp from tracking me?
[11:14] <[transcoders]man> is it true that ubuntu 12.04 is coming to smartphone devices too???
[11:14] <oCean> [transcoders]man: channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion on 12.04
[11:14] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: what about my harddisk?
[11:14] <pnorman> blinky: not really on topic for here, you'd be better off with a different chan
[11:15] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: not seeing anything wrong with the smart info. keep in mind, a drive can fail with no warnings and smart only catches some errors
[11:16] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, I took a quick look too, and didn't see anything 'outta-wack'.
[11:16] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: one small doubt, the column type says prefailure and oldage, can you tell me what does it mean?
[11:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: what is the column which says the expected value ?
[11:17] <pnorman> it tells you what kind of indicator it is. pre-fail indicators are likely to change when something goes wrong. old_age will change as the drive gets old
[11:18] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: generally when a drive starts going, the VALUE of all sorts of attributes decrease to under TRESH
[11:19] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, I'm not sure and wouldn't want to tell you the wrong thing. "Power-On" time appears to be a little over a year, correct?
[11:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: ya
[11:19] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: so is my drive failing
[11:20] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: I don't see any VALUEs under their THRESH
[11:20] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: can a faulty smps falsify a smart test?
[11:21] <pnorman> smps?
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya
[11:21] <munzxttt> merry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!
[11:21] <pnorman> I'm asking what smps is.
[11:21] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, Other than 'Smart-Data' are there any other symptoms that you're experiencing or does it appear to be running fine? Regardless of your answer, Back-Ups are your friend. :-)
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: 2 of the power terminals of the smps wont work
[11:22] <pnorman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/788745/ is an example of a smart status from a drive that exhibited a problem (bad cable)
[11:22] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: What is a smps?
[11:22] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman:  switch mode power supply
[11:23] <pnorman> Oh. A bad power supply wouldn't cause smart to be wrong, it would cause errors that smart isn't designed to detect
[11:24] <munzxttt> merry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!
[11:24] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: when i use a power socket from smsps which is faulty  with the dvd writer, the drive keeps on seeking and its ok whn i use a good terminal
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, There's no software, that I'm aware of that'll diagnose a potential PSU problem.
[11:25] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: sounds like a bad voltage rail that one is on but the other isn't. smart isn't designed to detect that kind of problem
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: thats right :)
[11:25] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: lm_sensors can sometimes
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya
[11:25] <Unirgy> hi, was anyone able to compile dazukofs successfully? thanks
[11:26] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: mine was a warranty replace one ,  they gave me a certified repaired one
[11:26] <angela> what should I do if xubunto does not recognice the wireless device of a netbook
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, The good news is that refurbished/reconditioned PSUs are relatively inexpensive; even if you need a 1000 watt, server PSU.
[11:27] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: owfs could also be used to read PSU voltages
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> owfs?
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> Like DVM?
[11:27] <pnorman> one wire file system, for reading one-wire sensors. you'd have to have the appropriate hardware
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> Digital Volt Meter?
[11:28] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: in the Raw_Read_Error_Rate higher is better or lower is better?
[11:28] <pnorman> higher is good
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> Well, thanks guys, I just learned two things.. :-)
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: so that means if it reaches less than 6 , then something is wrong
[11:29] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: smartctl will then return a non-zero exit status, indicating something is wrong.
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> oh
[11:30] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: in my server i monitor the smart statuses so I can tell if something starts changing
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: is there a frontend for smartctl?
[11:30] <Sidewinder1> pnorman, Sounds like a mis-nomer, I would've thought that any 'error rate' lower would be better than higher..
[11:30] <pnorman> smartctl is a frontend :)
[11:30] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: higher=good with SMART
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: no i mean a gui front end
[11:31] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: Not sure. I don't use a GUI. I graph my smart stuff with munin. Anyways, off to bed
[11:32] <Sidewinder1> pnorman, Nighty- night..
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: tahnk you
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: thank you
[11:33] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: thank you
[11:33] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, My pleasure; just wish I could've helped more. :D
[11:34] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: you helped me enough
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> Kewl.
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> OT, but I used to own a 1978 Firebird, Formula. ;-)
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> And lived in Phoenix, for a bit..
[11:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: you mean a pontiac?
[11:36] <Unirgy> is there a real time anti-malware solution for linux to monitor file system? i've tried avira and avg, but they require dazukofs module, which doesn't compile, tried maldetect, but inotify process works only on immediate directory and crashes
[11:37] <phoenix_firebrd> wish you all a happy new year
[11:37] <tapas> hi, i'm using the xmonad window manager and still like to use nautilus to manage files sometimes
[11:37] <tapas> sadly it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/hxwKe.png
[11:37] <tapas> [left side of the screen]
[11:38] <tapas> i wonder how i can make nautilus use the right icons again..
[11:38] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: bitdefender?
[11:38] <tapas> this is a fresh 11.10 install from yesterday
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> Unirgy, I'm not sure but I don't think there's much demand for that sort of thing in *nix. You might be interested to read this, if you haven't already: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[11:39] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: did you use it?
[11:39] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: yes the other one I have tried is ahh....looking for it
[11:40] <Myr> Greetings, I have a question about Wubi and the windows (XP) Boot.ini ... How do I get my wubi install to boot again?
[11:40] <Myr> Couldn't find anything useful with google
[11:41] <Adrian_> Hi guys I have had ubuntu dual booting some years ago and just took a look at the new live distro and thought it looks amazing! Went to install on my brand new rig and I can't install ubuntu to the ssd I bought?
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> Myr, It's just my opinion but WUBI is simply to try ubuntu, in a win environment; if you like ubuntu, install it and dual boot. This link will help w/WUBI and installation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[11:43] <zsol> tapas, there's a gnome howto on the xmonad site
[11:44] <smile4ever> When trying to compile Gnash..
[11:44] <smile4ever> WARNING: NPAPI (mozilla) plugin is enabled, but your compiler
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  does not support symbol visibility. This may cause
[11:44] <Adrian_> Has anybody had trouble installing ubuntu to ssd, there is some talk of issues in google but no definitive you can't?
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  the plugin to malfunction and may result in small
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  children being eaten. You have been warned!
[11:44] <FloodBot1> smile4ever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <smile4ever> O.O
[11:44] <Okocha> when i want to visit a web-site I have to wait for 20second. I think it's for DNS. anybody there?
[11:44] <Myr> Sidewinder1: Okay... but how is that helping me to get back into ubuntu?
[11:44] <tapas> zsol: yeah, i used to use xmonad as wm in gnome, but this is not a gnome session...
[11:45] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: ESET has a linux client too
[11:45] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: thanks
[11:45] <smile4ever> Myr: what's the problem? :)
[11:46] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: nvm about ESET, use bitdefender it works awesome and the other one was crap
[11:46] <Sidewinder1> Myr, As I sated, that link has some info on WUBI; I can't answer your question as I've never used WUBI (I wouldn't touch WUBI, with your keyboard).. ;-) Sorry I have no definitive answer for you. :-(
[11:47] <Myr> smile4ever: Reinstalled Windows XP after getting my kernel rewritten by a hacker after getting in with a backdoor, Forgot to save the settings of my Boot.ini ... :(
[11:47] <smile4ever> and now you want to fix ubuntu? :)
[11:47] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: plus its a free license for home users
[11:47] <Myr> Well, I need the line that links my boot menu to my grub menu
[11:47] <mysteriousdarren> http://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Technology
[11:48] <Myr> But I have no idea about windows Boot.ini xD
[11:48] <smile4ever> xD
[11:48] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: trying to find the download link, http://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Overview - only to purchase
[11:48] <smile4ever> now you are in XP? :)
[11:48] <Myr> Aye :(
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Couldn't you simply re-install WUBI?
[11:48] <Myr> Aye, I could
[11:48] <Okocha> #dns
[11:48] <smile4ever> Myr: or install Ubuntu directly :)
[11:48] <smile4ever> With GParted fixed in one hour :)
[11:49] <smile4ever> ^^
[11:49] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: look at the little tab on the upper lefthand side
[11:49] <mysteriousdarren> near realted links
[11:49] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: oh got it
[11:49] <Myr> Could do ubuntu directly, but it always goes wrong with dualboot installing
[11:49] <smile4ever> Myr: with me it doesn't :)
[11:50] <Adrian_> Myr: I have dual booted before always found very straightforard.
[11:50] <manners> hey guys was wondering if someone
[11:50] <manners> could help
[11:50] <smile4ever> yeah, we'll try if you explain your problem :)
[11:50] <mysteriousdarren> manners: what is the problem?
[11:50] <Sidewinder1> Myr, The beauty of dual-boot is that you can do all of your 'Net' stuff in ubuntu and be almost totally secure; save the win os for games, Auto-Cad, etc..
[11:50] <auronandace> manners: that would depend on the problem
[11:50] <Adrian_> smile4ever: have you ever tried dual booting win7 and ubuntu to ssd
[11:50] <manners> iv got an old netbook with ubuntu on and its basically just gonna be a media server using ushare and a nas controller for the usb hdd
[11:51] <Sidewinder1> Myr, What error do you get when trying to install dual boot?
[11:51] <smile4ever> Adrian_: I'm dualbooting Windows 7 and Lubuntu (on a hard disk drive)
[11:51] <manners> iv got the hdd showing up on it but when using samba i can see the share but cannot access it
[11:51] <manners> on my windows 7 machine i mean
[11:52] <smile4ever> manners: samba is crap :|
[11:52] <manners> now i have changed the settings in windows 7 as i used to have this drive on a openwrt box
[11:52] <smile4ever> manners: use dropbox :)
[11:52] <manners> lol what can i use
[11:52] <manners> ahh kk
[11:52] <Myr> Well, my grub dies... It boots directly to the grub prompt
[11:52] <manners> can it handle ntfs file systems
[11:52] <Adrian_> smile4ever: I have done xp and ubuntu some time back but love the 11.10 look, just rebuilt a beutiful rig on a shoestring and was only planning on using the ssd as nice and quiet
[11:52] <smile4ever> yes ;) dropbox can
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Live CD or USB stick?
[11:52] <Myr> Live CD
[11:53] <manners> kk will install that now
[11:53] <manners> also whilst on the subject
[11:53] <Adrian_> smile4ever: gparted or any ubuntu I have tried can't see the ssd?
[11:53] <manners> i tried changing the permissions on the drive to give everyone access to read and write but it keeps changing them back again
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> Myr, OK, did you Md5sum the ISO image prior to burning, at the slowest speed to the CD?
[11:53] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: looks like the free download is only scanner, without real-time protection
[11:54] <Myr> Yes
[11:54] <smile4ever> Adrian_: hmm, problem :(
[11:54] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: my apologies
[11:54] <Adrian_> big tried running a live session in win 7 but is no good live iso usb can see it but not size format anything?
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> Myr, What version of ubuntu?
[11:55] <Myr> 10.10
[11:55] <Unirgy> :( thanks
[11:55] <d4nt3> can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?
[11:55] <Myr> Or atleast 10.X
[11:55] <Guest4399> hi
[11:55] <Guest4399> want some help on ubuntu
[11:55] <d4nt3> can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?
[11:56] <Adrian_> d4nt3: can try recover my files it on torrent I have always had some results, just install and select drive and run.
[11:56] <auronandace> d4nt3: you want to recover a file that was on the external hd before it was formatted as ntfs?
[11:56] <manners> doo dropbox
[11:56] <smile4ever> d4nt3: go to a pc shop and let help you :)
[11:56] <smile4ever> i don't know any tools for linux
[11:56] <manners> do i really need dropbox seems like a comlex way of doing things
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Dang! I'm using 10.04 with Grub Legacy, not Grub2.. Not really sure what the problem might be. I'd read through the link that I gave you and see if anything 'pops-out' at you..
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  you accidentally deleted files? if yes, use scalpel to recover the files
[11:57] <Adrian_> smile4ever, d4nt3: pc repair shop is much easier!
[11:57] <smile4ever> manners: you could also install a vpn :)
[11:57] <Guest4399> exit
[11:57] <d4nt3> but how to recover .iso file?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  you deledet it?
[11:57] <atvr> does the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd
[11:57] <Adrian_> has anybody succesfully installed any linux distro to a ssd?
[11:57] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, Have you looked into "Testdisk?"
[11:57] <d4nt3> i have already use testdisk and photorec
[11:58] <manners> i just want to share the files on the home network though
[11:58] <auronandace> Adrian_: plenty of people have installed ubuntu to ssd
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  try scalpel
[11:58] <atvr> does the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> !info scalpel| d4nt3
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> hm
[11:59] <auronandace> Adrian_: perhaps somebody has the same model ssd as you, try searching the ubuntu forums
[11:59] <d4nt3> foremost can recover .iso file?
[11:59] <smile4ever> manners: i really hate samba because it fails very much :S
[11:59] <Adrian_> auronandace: help me I have just built a new tower on a budget treated myself to an ssd, so quiet and quick, win 7 is great, ubuntu can't see the ssd details ie size format?
[11:59] <d4nt3> i format the HD in windows...then can i get back all the file including .iso file?
[11:59] <smile4ever> Every time i tried to use it, it didn't work
[12:00] <manners> the strange thing is if i share the root
[12:00] <oCean> smile4ever: don't blame smb then
[12:00] <d4nt3> i use photorec but photorec recover file that i don't own
[12:00] <auronandace> Adrian_: how new is the ssd, what model is it?
[12:00] <manners> i can get into everything on there except the usb hdd
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, If both of those were totally unsuccessful it may be gone.. :-(
[12:00] <manners> its as if the permissions are whats stopping me
[12:00] <Adrian_> auronandace: corsair force 90, christmas present but not a new release I don't think!
[12:01] <auronandace> Adrian_: try searching the ubuntu forums for that model
[12:01] <d4nt3> if its gone...then im going to kill myself...for using my thumbdrive as swap
[12:01] <Ben64> you can make publicly writable directories with samba
[12:01] <auronandace> Adrian_: sorry i can't help more but i have never used ssds
[12:01] <d4nt3> thats affect my HD...
[12:01] <Adrian_> auronandace: will have a look now.
[12:02] <manners> yes if the permissions would change
[12:02] <manners> i have samba running and its working doing what it should do anyways
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, Not to sound totally goofy, but I feel your pain; that's why I'm a back-up, nut.
[12:02] <wafer> wow ;)
[12:02] <wafer> hi ;)
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> wafer, Hey!
[12:02] <manners> other than the fact the usb hdd cannot be accessed
[12:03] <manners> but as i said im unable to change the permissions on that drive
[12:03] <d4nt3> im thinking of getting my linux mint.iso file...but now its gone...and it take hours to download it...again
[12:03] <wafer> i'm new user ubuntu ;P nice OS :D
[12:03] <wafer> where is firefox???
[12:04] <iceroot> wafer: installed by default
[12:04] <Gentoo64> wafer, should be on the bar on the left
[12:04] <manners> if i right click the actual drive and go to permissions it says the permissions of elements could not be determined
[12:04] <iceroot> wafer: if you are not using lubuntu firefox is installed by default
[12:04] <wafer> ah, is ;)
[12:04] <wafer> i have conntact with world :D
[12:05] <iceroot> wafer: almost everything you need should be installed by default (libreoffice and flash are not installed by default)
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> manners, Open it with a file mgr. click on a dir or file and click 'properties'; that should give you the permissions, at least for that dir/file on the ext.
[12:05] <wafer> btw. sorry  with my language ;)
[12:05] <manners> is there something i have to do to take ownership of this drive
[12:05] <wafer> i from poland ;p
[12:05] <iceroot> wafer: there are also country-specific channels
[12:05] <iceroot> !pl | wafer
[12:06] <wafer> XChat i have in polish version; )
[12:06] <wafer> ok, thanks
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> manners, sudo chown -R usernamr:username /media/disk-name..
[12:07] <maxagaz> hi
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> username, even. :-(
[12:07] <idaix> bonjour
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> !fre
[12:07] <maxagaz> when doing grub-update, I get this error : /etc/default/grub: 11: i8042.nopnp: not found
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> !fr
[12:07] <irl> jk
[12:07] <maxagaz> how to repair this problem ?
[12:08] <irl> happy christmas
[12:08] <Gentoo64> irl, christmas is over :)
[12:09] <auronandace> !cookie | Gentoo64
[12:09] <Gentoo64> aw :)
[12:10] <Gentoo64> i hope its triple choc
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> Christmas Spirit should be present all year. OT, Side hits himself..
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack
[12:10] <Gamoder> Hi everyone, what is the minimum connection speed where it does not make sense to compress ssh -X any longer?
[12:10] <manners> hmm that didnt work
[12:10] <Gentoo64> maxagaz, what problem are you having? is it with a touchpad or ps2 key/mouse?
[12:11] <iceroot> Gamoder: ssh -X is always a bad idea and very slow
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> manners, It always worked on my 5 external eSATA/USB drives.
[12:11] <Gamoder> ok, so is there an alternative for getting single applications displayed over a network?
[12:11] <iceroot> Gamoder: and what does the connection-speed have to do with compression?
[12:11] <lalagirl> Hi everyone. I'm installing Ubunti
[12:11] <manners> lol well it didnt say it failed
[12:12] <manners> just if i goto /media
[12:12] <iceroot> Gamoder: nx is a good alternative but its a complete session and not only one application
[12:12] <Gamoder> Well - the slower the connection, the more useful should compression be because de/compressing takes time but transferring data takes time as well
[12:12] <Gamoder> yeah, I only want one or two applications
[12:12] <manners> right click elements then look at permissions there still as defaults and if i change any and press close they dont actually change
[12:12] <lalagirl> How long does it take to install Ubuntu?
[12:12] <iceroot> Gamoder: the level of compression has more to do with cpu speed then connection-speed
[12:12] <coagula> if im running a command line build, but want to use a web browser with flash (gui), would setting up a chroot jail and building an instance of X maintain the integrity of my system?
[12:12] <iceroot> lalagirl: depening on the hardware 15-60 minutes
[12:13] <Sidewinder1> manners, Perhaps sudo chown -R username:username /media/what-ever the mount-point and or UUID?
[12:13] <almoxarife> maxagaz: could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub
[12:14] <Entvex> hello how do i add a launchpad PPA key to my apt keyring?
[12:14] <lalagirl> While its installing Ubuntu, it says "Retrieving file 59 of 69 (30s remaining)" why?
[12:14] <Gamoder> iceroot: Well - but if I got a slow connection then, if I transfer more data (no compression) it will take more time than if I transfer less data (with compression) - on the other hand, if I got a slow cpu it will take more time if there is more to do (compression) than if there is less to do (no compression)
[12:14] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, its downloading stuff
[12:15] <Gamoder> I got a 2,3 Ghz i5 processor and about 700 kb/s speed
[12:15] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 what is it downloading?
[12:15] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, idk, maybe language packs
[12:15] <manners> odd thing is i can read and write files on the ubuntu machine
[12:15] <Gentoo64> did you choose to download updates while installling?
[12:15] <manners> to the  external hdd
[12:15] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 Do I need them? I will only run in English?
[12:16] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, probably not, i dont even know if it is language packs
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> manners, To determine the UUID of the drives, including the external, try: ls -l dev/disk/by-uuid
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  maybe there's a skip button, if not, you can delete them after installation
[12:16] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 it says "Downloading language packs (5:03 remaining)..."
[12:16] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, ok well thats it then :)
[12:16] <lalagirl> MonkeyDust I pressed the skip button
[12:17] <Entvex> ahh found it
[12:17] <iceroot> Gamoder: and what does higher compression has to do with lower connection speed?
[12:17] <iceroot> Gamoder: i dont get what you want
[12:17] <lalagirl> Okay it is done installing Ubuntu… that took a long time
[12:17] <Entvex> it was apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key id>
[12:17] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, id just leave it i doubt they take much space
[12:17] <manners> Sidewinder1 if i can access it via ubuntu and edit files should i need to change permissions, also if with samba i share the route i can access it from my windows 7 machine but if i navigate to the usb hdd it wont let me have access to the directory
[12:17] <Gamoder> I think that higher compression = less data = less time to transfer the data
[12:17] <Entvex> thanks man pages :D
[12:17] <manners> sorry root
[12:17] <lalagirl> it took 6 minutes to install Ubuntu?
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> manners, And the external can't be written to because it's owned by 'root', correct?
[12:18] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, you said a long time?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  that's possible, modifications may take longer
[12:18] <Gamoder> and if I got less connection speed this "less time" matters more than the "more time" due to the CPU-time used for compression
[12:18] <illic1t> in webmin which shell option do u choose to give a user full access to my server?
[12:18] <jolson_> I wish to report a bug, but ubuntu-bug wants me to name the package at fault and I have no idea. It's about fonts not being drawn correctly and it affects many applications at once.
[12:18] <manners> well by the user max
[12:18] <atvr> lalagirl: the way you speak i think you have never installed windows XD you would think that ubuntu install fast as hell ;p
[12:18] <illic1t> bin/bash?
[12:18] <iceroot> illic1t: dont use webmin
[12:18] <lalagirl> atvr I have a mac
[12:18] <iceroot> !webmin | illic1t
[12:18] <manners> which is my son used to be his netbook
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> !webmin | illic1t
[12:18] <illic1t> sorry
[12:19] <lalagirl> atvr I bought Windows 7 and will install it later… first let me install Ubuntu
[12:19] <iceroot> lalagirl: its better to install windows first
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  if you install windows after ubuntu, you'll have to repair grub
[12:19] <iceroot> lalagirl: because windows will kill grub and you have to reinstall grub
[12:20] <lalagirl> atvr by the way, how long does Windows take to install?
[12:20] <iceroot> lalagirl: ##windows
[12:20] <atvr> lalagirl: this is off-topic but you cant instal windows on a mac machine
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  at least 1 hour
[12:20] <iceroot> atvr: of course you can
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:20] <ShadowE9899> it takes me about 15 mins here with windows 7
[12:20] <Gentoo64> all depends on the pc
[12:20] <iceroot> atvr: if it is not ppc
[12:20] <Gentoo64> some can take 4-5 mins some 2 hours
[12:20] <lalagirl> okay
[12:21] <lalagirl> it says "If possible, eject the CD-ROM from inside the guest before disconnecting.
[12:21] <lalagirl> Disconnect anyway and override the lock?" What should I do?
[12:21] <atvr> lalagirl: depends on your hardware performance, it may take 10min or 1hour
[12:21] <soee> how can i remove (terminal) all files with specific extension ?
[12:21] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, just reboot
[12:21] <iceroot> soee: rm *.txt
[12:21] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, or choose device/cdrom then eject from vboc
[12:21] <Gentoo64> x
[12:21] <Gentoo64> or remove device / whatever
[12:21] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 whats vboc?
[12:21] <Gentoo64> vbox (if thats what youre using)
[12:22] <iceroot> !vbox | lalagirl
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> soee  with find and rm {}
[12:22] <Gamoder> ok, I cannot watch videos - but otherwise, speed seems to be quite ok
[12:22] <soee> iceroot, Monarquista thank you
[12:22] <iceroot> Gamoder: what videos?
[12:22] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 oh I bought VMware Fusion 4, is that okay to run Ubuntu?
[12:22] <iceroot> Gamoder: flash? or others?
[12:22] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, yeah
[12:22] <Gamoder> neither nor - ssh seems to be too slow for that
[12:23] <iceroot> Gamoder: watching videos over ssh -X.....
[12:23] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, before you buy stuff, there are free alternatives :) vbox is fine
[12:23] <iceroot> Gamoder: as i already said, ssh -X is bad and very slow
[12:23] <Ben64> vmware has a free version too
[12:23] <Gentoo64>  Ben64 yeah but only player afaik
[12:23] <Gamoder> well - maybe, but I don't want a complete session - and it is sufficent for lowriter, firefox etc.
[12:23] <Ben64> yeah, and?
[12:24] <Ben64> it works perfectly
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, which means youd need existing vm
[12:24] <iceroot> Gamoder: you can mount the filesystem with sshfs
[12:24] <Ben64> nope, you can make them
[12:24] <ShadowE9899> I agree vbox works great here. I do all my dev in it to keep my work isolated.
[12:24] <iceroot> Gamoder: then it should be possible to watch videos over that
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, you might as well use full on vbox
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> so far, i havent been able to install vmware in ubuntu, i now use vbox
[12:24] <Ben64> vbox isn't as full featured
[12:24] <Gamoder> ah, nice, could try out that too :-)
[12:24] <lalagirl> wait I am on mac so i bought vmware fusion 4 so i can run ubuntu on mac
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, most people prefer it for normal use
[12:25] <ShadowE9899> Ben64: It has enough features for a home user. Now a datacenter is a different story
[12:25] <lalagirl> it seems like ubuntu is compatible with vmware fusion 4
[12:25] <iceroot> lalagirl: you bought expensiv mac-hardware to use windows and linux? isnt the only reason to buy mac hardware to run mac osx?
[12:25] <Ben64> vmware is free and better : /
[12:25] <Gentoo64> Ben64, argue all you like lol
[12:25] <iceroot> Ben64: vmware is not "free" (as in free speech)
[12:25] <Gamoder> Thanks, iceroot - nautilus has ssh-support. Now I don't need samba any longer
[12:25] <Gentoo64> vbox is also faster
[12:25] <maxagaz> almoxarife: I have just tried the /etc/default/grub which is here http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-18941526-ubuntu-erreur-de-sortie-d-etat-127
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  OT: link to vmware installer pls?
[12:26] <lalagirl> iceroot some programs are not on mac for some dumb reason so i have to use ubuntu and windows alongside mac
[12:26] <iceroot> lalagirl: ok
[12:26] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: you can't google? :(
[12:26] <lalagirl> iceroot i'm getting tired spending so much money on software so i think ubuntu will help because its free
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  fun-spoiler :p
[12:26] <maxagaz> almoxarife: it's now upgrading, but I get similar errors...
[12:27] <Ben64> well it'll take a bit to get you a link, maxing out my connection atm
[12:27] <iceroot> lalagirl: its free (as in free beer) and (very important) its free as in free speech
[12:27] <iceroot> !free | lalagirl
[12:27] <lalagirl> iceroot beer isn't free
[12:28] <ShadowE9899> If it wasn't for open source I probably wouldn't know how to program =/
[12:28] <iceroot> lalagirl: free beer is of course free :)
[12:28] <Seveas> free as in freezing
[12:28] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: www.vmware.com/go/get-player
[12:28] <Ben64> you need to register
[12:28] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, i thought id seen you in this channel for a long time, how come all the questions? :s
[12:28] <almoxarife> maxagaz: I can't read french, ><>......
[12:28] <iceroot> lalagirl: hm maybe not if apple would sell beer, even it is free beer because you need an adapter matching your mouth which will cost 29,95€
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  tnx
[12:29] <Seveas> iceroot, it'll be iBeer, taste like crap, but it'll be shiny
[12:29] <maxagaz> almoxarife: well, the file is not in french
[12:29] <Seveas> and people will love it for the shine
[12:29] <iceroot> Seveas: and pink
[12:29] <Seveas> no, white
[12:29] <Ben64> white beer :S
[12:29] <iceroot> Seveas: with round corners
[12:29] <ShadowE9899> lol
[12:30] <atvr> as you talk about crap lol is it possible to put linux on iphone
[12:30] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 i'm lalagirl's friend
[12:30] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, ah ok
[12:30] <iceroot> atvr: yes
[12:30] <Seveas> atvr, google for rockbox.
[12:30] <ShadowE9899> really?
[12:30] <oCean> let's move back on topic please
[12:30] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 she told me to use this chat thing incase if i need help installing ubuntu
[12:30] <iceroot> atvr: but not GNU/Linux
[12:30] <iceroot> oCean: we are not offtopic when we are speaking about freedom
[12:31] <atvr> iceroot: what is gnu linux
[12:31] <Seveas> iceroot, well, this channel is really about support
[12:31] <rokia> hi everybody, i have a question about java and linux. how can i know which charset is used when i call a write method on OutputStreamWriter . because i think write use a jvm 's charset and jvm depends on the operating system
[12:31] <oCean> atvr: please note that this channel is not for general linux support, just ubuntu
[12:31] <iceroot> atvr: have a look at gnu.org what GNU/Linux is, also debian.org
[12:32] <Seveas> atvr, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/io/OutputStreamWriter.html
[12:32] <ShadowE9899> you guys wasn't joking about ubuntu on the iphone... does it work well with other iOS devices?
[12:32] <Seveas> OutputStreamWriters have a getEncoding method
[12:32] <lalagirl> okay now i installed ubuntu… how can i update it?
[12:32] <iceroot> atvr: the short story is Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux system, Android is a Linux system
[12:32] <iceroot> lalagirl: update like sec-updates or update like release-update?
[12:33] <ShadowE9899> or am i misreading these results from google lmao
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot all updates
[12:33] <iceroot> lalagirl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hasufell> help!! i cant see this video in my ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
[12:33] <iceroot> lalagirl: also the software-center should offer an option about available updates
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot sudo what?
[12:33] <Seveas> lalagirl, open the update manager and click 'check' and 'install updates'
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot what's sudo
[12:33] <Seveas> no need for termminal commands :)
[12:33] <iceroot> !sudo | lalagirl
[12:33] <Ben64> lalagirl: do what Seveas said
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, What version of ubuntu did you install?
[12:34] <Ben64> its way easier
[12:34] <lalagirl> iceroot i feel dumb… sorry if i'm asking dumb questions, i'm new to this!
[12:34] <Seveas> lalagirl, no need to feel dumb :)
[12:34] <lalagirl> Sidewinder1 it Ubuntu 11.10
[12:34] <iceroot> lalagirl: there are no dump questions, its great you are using ubuntu and you are welcome to this channel to ask all your ubuntu releated questions
[12:35] <Ben64> nobody instantly knew how to work linux their first time
[12:35] <manners> ok got that fixed now
[12:35] <manners> next issue
[12:35] <manners> is there a gui for ushare in ubuntu
[12:36] <owenll1> !flash | hasufell
[12:36] <lalagirl> are "pre-released updates (oneiric-proposed)" safe to install??
[12:36] <iceroot> lalagirl: no
[12:36] <iceroot> lalagirl: dont use them
[12:36] <hasufell> can i watch porn then too?!
[12:36] <ShadowE9899> lol
[12:36] <hasufell> i cant see porn
[12:36] <oCean> hasufell: wrong channel for that
[12:36] <Gentoo64> hasufell, stop troling please
[12:36] <n3rV3> :)
[12:36] <hasufell> PLEASE
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, Then you can't do a dist-upgrade; at least not yet..
[12:36] <oCean> hasufell: this channel is for ubuntu tech support only, stop the offtopic talk
[12:36] <hasufell> i need FAP FAP FAP
[12:36] <Seveas> hasufell, Ubuntu can play almost all videos. just some DRM-encumbered ones don't play.
[12:37] <Gentoo64> i think someones been on the shandies
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, 12.04's not due to be released for a few months.
[12:37] <darkowlzz> Can I use Oracle in Ubuntu?
[12:37] <Seveas> darkowlzz, yes you can.
[12:37] <Romance> pffft, i can't open terminal suddenly! what happened
[12:37] <Romance> dang
[12:37] <iceroot> lalagirl: proposed updates are updates which are not tested or tested at the moment so they can break things
[12:37] <oCean> darkowlzz:  however oracle did not certify ubuntu/debian
[12:37] <Seveas> Romance, it's rebelling!
[12:37] <n3rV3> darkowlzz, yes you can
[12:37] <darkowlzz> Seveas, which package to download
[12:37] <lalagirl> Sidewinder1 so how do i get Ubuntu 12.04 beta?
[12:37] <iceroot> darkowlzz: yes
[12:37] <Ben64> lalagirl: you don't want it
[12:38] <iceroot> darkowlzz: ask oracle what you should use
[12:38] <oCean> lalagirl: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[12:38] <Seveas> darkowlzz, you'll need to contact oracle sales and pay them a lot of money :)
[12:38] <Ben64> I put 12.04 on my laptop and I regret it
[12:38] <lalagirl> Ben64 i don't want anything, but my friend wants the latest ubuntu stuff
[12:38] <Ben64> it's unstable
[12:38] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, if you just managed to install ubuntu, why do you want the beta already
[12:38] <Ben64> nobody wants that yet
[12:38] <darkowlzz> Seveas, no free way
[12:38] <iceroot> lalagirl: please dont use 12.04, use 11.10 if you want the latest stable release
[12:38] <Seveas> Ben64, 11.10 was less stable for me than 12.04 alpha though. unity kept crashing in 11.10
[12:38] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 it's not me, its my friend… i don't know anything...
[12:38] <iceroot> darkowlzz: oracle is not free
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, What Ben64 said.
[12:39] <Ben64> 10.04 is solid as a rock
[12:39] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, i would use 12.04 in a vm
[12:39] <Gentoo64> but not proper pc
[12:39] <Seveas> darkowlzz, dunno, oracle is not really supported by the community but by oracle. So I'd ask them
[12:39] <Gentoo64> unless you wana test it, not use it properly
[12:39] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I had the same problem with 11.10 Unity. I ended up installing GNOME Shell just because it kept crashing.
[12:39] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I didn't upgrade to 12.04 though. lol
[12:39] <iceroot> Seveas: darkowlzz imo ubuntu is not a supported plattform from oracle
[12:39] <Seveas> cypher-neo, I went for 12.04 instead :)
[12:39] <Seveas> iceroot, hmm, that may be true.
[12:40] <cypher-neo> Seveas, My first issue with 12.04 was that the Alpha image wouldn't fit on a CD. lol
[12:40] <Ben64> I don't like any of the desktop choices now :(
[12:40] <iceroot> darkowlzz: but why you need oracle? mostly its an overkill for common tasks
[12:40] <cypher-neo> Seveas, It was 20Mb too big
[12:40] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, afaik its supposed to be liek that now
[12:40] <darkowlzz> iceroot, any emulator for Oracle
[12:40] <Gentoo64> you need a dvd even for the cd
[12:40] <Seveas> cypher-neo, heh, I just upgraded :)
[12:40] <iceroot> darkowlzz: ask oracle we dont support that here
[12:41] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Well, i don
[12:41] <Seveas> and I install from usb anyway these days.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> yes
[12:41] <lalagirl> it says it has 301 updates to install… holy cow pancakes batman mobile how long will that take? is it necessary?
[12:41] <n3rV3> Gentoo64, or use unetbootin and make pen drive bootable
[12:41] <Gentoo64> n3rV3, yeah ofc
[12:41] <Seveas> lalagirl, not too long. Most updates are small
[12:41] <Gentoo64> but in terms of actual discs :)
[12:41] <iceroot> lalagirl: it is necessary for the latest security updates and bug-fixes
[12:41] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Well, i don't mind as long as they put enough packages into 12.04 to FILL UP a DVD. I don't want to waste a DVD on an image that is just slightly larger than a CD.
[12:41] <n3rV3> yes u r right
[12:41] <lalagirl> i'm guessing ubuntu has a lot of bugs?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  that's what i said, modifications take longer
[12:42] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Though i suppose I could just put it on a flash drive.
[12:42] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, they should still have cd and dvd versions, "cd" is just more minimal
[12:42] <cypher-neo> lalagirl, Depends on which version you are using
[12:42] <iceroot> lalagirl: not more then other systems
[12:42] <manners> hey guys whats the best upnp server to use in ubuntu
[12:42] <Ben64> lalagirl: there are a lot of updates, not all are bugfixes
[12:42] <Seveas> lalagirl, software is made of bugs. Be it windows, mac or ubuntu. It's bugs all the way down :)
[12:42] <darkowlzz> has anyone tried running Oracle using Wine?
[12:42] <iceroot> manners: ushare - lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server
[12:42] <Seveas> manners, I use mediatomb for my dlna needs
[12:42] <Ben64> i used mediatomb as well
[12:42] <haylo> if they fill up a dvd then it will be a really heavy iso
[12:42] <oCean> darkowlzz: that would be even more silly. Please use #oracle channel for further support
[12:43] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, That's what I figure too. The CD version just needs a little more time to be culled, and become CD-compatiable.
[12:43] <iceroot> darkowlzz: again, why you need oracle?
[12:43] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, it used to be, they must have changed it
[12:43] <manners> is there a gui for ushare in ubunti like in luci
[12:43] <lalagirl> okay i decided to install all 301 updates… hopefully Ubuntu doesn't crash like last time
[12:43] <cypher-neo> haylo, They have DVD versions which do fill up a DVD. Mostly just language packs though... for the Ubuntu world traveler.
[12:43] <manners> its for xbox360 so dlna isnt an issue
[12:43] <lalagirl> i don't even know why i'm helping her install Ubuntu in the first place….
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: maybe have a look at "xbmc"
[12:44] <manners> isnt that a complete os
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: no
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: its just a media-solution for ubuntu
[12:44] <manners> hmm ok ill have a look around
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: a normal program
[12:44] <haylo> ah yeah, well i like it that ubuntu has stayed under 1gig mostly
[12:44] <stephenh> what are we talking about?
[12:44] <stephenh> i saw dlna, looks interesting
[12:45] <stephenh> :)
[12:45] <darkowlzz> iceroot, it's part of my college syllabus :(
[12:45] <Seveas> stephenh, about how short this year is
[12:45]  * stephenh is looking for media server that does transcoding too...
[12:45] <Seveas> stephenh, mediatomb
[12:45] <darkowlzz> what is better, mysql or Oracle?
[12:45] <stephenh> found mediatomb, but haven't installed it yet
[12:45] <baaaac> happy new year...
[12:45] <Seveas> !better | darkowlzz
[12:45] <iceroot> darkowlzz: you cant compare mysql and oracle
[12:45] <stephenh> Seveas: cool.. also a bit null and void atm as i bought an apple tv and put xbmc on it
[12:46] <atvr> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu
[12:46] <iceroot> darkowlzz: but if you just need a sql database use mysql or postgresql
[12:46] <haylo> whats the risk of running without doing the updates say 11.04 or 10.04 or 12.04 maybe after it is revised?
[12:46] <stephenh> but was still curious what i could use to transcode to other dlna devices
[12:46] <darkowlzz> iceroot, Seveas , thanks :D
[12:46] <iceroot> haylo: no security updates
[12:46] <Seveas> haylo, you'll be vulmerable to security bugs
[12:46] <iceroot> darkowlzz: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[12:46] <atvr> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu
[12:46] <haylo> i have done install this way- ah security mostly then i see
[12:46] <stephenh> atvr: just keep repeating yourself, sure to get an answer....
[12:47] <darkowlzz> iceroot, thanks, but I know mysql very well :D
[12:47] <iceroot> !nox | atvr
[12:47] <iceroot> atvr: thats the method how to put kernel parameters
[12:47] <iceroot> !nomodeset
[12:47] <iceroot> atvr: see above
[12:48] <atvr> iceroot: i have already seen that, in wich form do i have to put nomodeset the command that i have here is looking like that linux..... quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[12:48] <lalagirl> hiiiiii I'm back sorry for the inconvenience
[12:49] <iceroot> atvr: the text about "nox" is showing you how
[12:49] <shadaloo> you are not in the kitchen?
[12:49]  * shadaloo looks confused
[12:49] <iceroot> atvr: also the forum link will show it
[12:49] <iceroot> shadaloo: stop that!!
[12:49] <lalagirl> shadaloo who?
[12:50] <shadaloo> lalagirl: just playing :p
[12:50] <devid19> devid19 saluta tutti
[12:50] <Seveas> shadaloo, I suggest you play nicely. Or I'll send *you* to the kitchen. To cook you in the oven.
[12:50] <Seveas> hello devid19
[12:51] <shadaloo> Seveas: watch it nazi
[12:51] <cypher-neo> lol
[12:51] <bullgard4> I have attached an electronic device to my LAN. I can access it through its Web interface. How can I access it through Nautilus? I know the IP address of the electronic device. '~$ mount' does not list this electronic device.
[12:51] <loicdu81> Bonjour
[12:51] <Seveas> bullgard4, try this in nautilus: smb://ip.addresss.here
[12:52] <Seveas> hello loicdu81
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  can you ping the device, if yes, try ssh
[12:52] <Gentoo64> loicdu81, #ubuntu-fr is for french
[12:52] <loicdu81> yes
[12:53] <wildc4rd> I am about to install Debian on my main PC, but want to keep this old Ubuntu install, as there is so much stuff on here, can I just plug this HDD into an older hardware setup?
[12:53] <sanku> i find that Ubuntu desktop 11.10 install on my Samsung Satellite bringing up the wireless icon top left ( with or without turning on a red light that the machine has ) -- but  debian 6.0.3 server and ubuntu 11.03 server are unable to show wireless.  How to tweak files to enable ?
[12:53] <Seveas> wildc4rd, yeah, that usually works
[12:53] <Gentoo64> wildc4rd, should be able to
[12:53] <Gentoo64> wildc4rd, id look out for  gpu drivers though
[12:54] <wildc4rd> ideal, cheers (yes, it will have the same brand of GPU)
[12:54] <atvr> iceroot: i just dont found how to make it work, i am new to linux and i would really apreciat if you would help resolving this issue
[12:56] <cypher-neo> sanku, You know i had the same problem on my Satellite Pro. There is a method which I refer to as "kickstarting the modem" which seemed to work 100% of the time for me.
[12:56] <bullgard4> Seveas: '~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5998ms.' --  But why do I obtain '~$ smb://<IP_ADDRESS>; bash: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>: No such file or directory'?
[12:56] <sanku> So i have this desktop Ubuntu 11.10 installed on the Samsung Satellite, and connecting to the Internet.  Is there a way to upgrade to server install ( from Ubuntu, Debian or other sites, ) ?
[12:57] <Seveas> bullgard4, I said in nautilus, not in bash :)
[12:57] <Seveas> sanku, server install is not an "upgrade", it's the same but without gui
[12:57] <sanku> cyher-neo: " kickstarting the mode " turns on wireless ?
[12:57] <n3rV3> bullgard4, not on the bash prompt you have to type it in the Nautilus window. One which lists all your folders and files
[12:57] <cypher-neo> sanku, You'll need to have an ethernet cable and have the computer connected to the router via a hardline for this to work. Turn the modem on (red light on) then enable the proprietary drivers. Restart the computer and then disable the proprietary drivers (you really don't need them). Then restart the computer, and as it is restarting disconnect the ethernet cable.
[12:58] <cypher-neo> sanku, I do not know why, but it always seems to kick the modem and make it work!
[12:58] <maxagaz> is it possible to use the apple super drive on any pc under ubuntu ?
[12:58] <yeehaw> I smell a dirty hack :P
[12:58] <Ben64> maxagaz: probably. is it just a hard drive?
[12:59] <sanku> Seveas, ah, that is what i see, no gui -- was amaze a server would not have one.  Thanx
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz I believe so
[12:59] <maxagaz> Ben64: no, it's a cd-rom drive
[12:59] <lalagirl> Ben64 it's a CD/DVD drive
[12:59] <Ben64> oh
[12:59] <cypher-neo> sanku, Oh, wait!! Server?
[12:59] <n3rV3> yeehaw, what are you talking about?
[12:59] <Ben64> usb connected... probably
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz yes, you can use it
[12:59] <maxagaz> I'm not sure it works actually
[12:59] <maxagaz> lalagirl: how ?
[12:59] <Seveas> maxagaz, I believe it should work. If nobody knows, try googling :)
[12:59] <yeehaw> n3rV3: About Cypher-neo's trick
[12:59] <maxagaz> I tried...
[12:59] <cypher-neo> sanku, I've never done that on a server before!
[12:59] <maxagaz> I found nothing
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz just connect it...
[13:00] <Ben64> yeah it should "just work" on ubuntu
[13:00] <maxagaz> Ben64: it should but it doesn't
[13:00] <Ben64> have you connected it?
[13:00] <cypher-neo> yeehaw, Dirty tricks sometimes work. I only discovered it because... let me think... 8.04 suggested I enable proprietary drivers (and when that didn't work) I disabled them.
[13:00] <n3rV3> yeehaw, oh ok
[13:00] <cypher-neo> yeehaw, And all of the sudden it worked!!
[13:00] <lalagirl> maxagaz i think you have to install it
[13:01] <atvr> i need help setting nomodeset in grub2 please help me i am new to this and i cant find info about that
[13:01] <maxagaz> lalagirl: what do you mean ?
[13:01] <Seveas> cypher-neo, that smells like the proprietary driver is setting some flags in the hardware that persist. Ugly.
[13:01] <lalagirl> maxagaz wait it says that it should be able to work without installation
[13:01] <n3rV3> yeah i had issues with one gbe card on ubuntu once
[13:02] <lalagirl> maxagaz when you connect it, it doesnt do anything, you have to put a disc inside
[13:02] <cypher-neo> Seveas, It's been fixed since 10.10 AFAIK...
[13:02] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I haven't had to do anything like that recently at least.
[13:02] <sanku> So now i have a server with NO gui or wireless connect, and a desktop with a sweet gui and wireless connect -- two machines -- wondering how to make the desktop ( with gui ) become server, and the server (without gui ) to have one ?
[13:02] <Seveas> sanku, to install a gui: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:02] <Jmgjamj> Hi
[13:03] <lalagirl> Jmgjamj hi
[13:03] <sanku> Hi Jmgjam
[13:03] <owenll1> atvr: Have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[13:03] <Seveas> to become a server: install whichever service it should perform, like apache, vsftpd or exom
[13:03] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Can you install a desktop on a server and preserve all the server functions?
[13:03] <bullgard4> Seveas: My apologies. --  Nautilus lists 5 Directory names of that electronic device: admin, music, photo, public, video. But no Size, Data Modified or Owner of them. What is the reason for these missing data displayed?
[13:03] <Seveas> cypher-neo, of course. There's no difference between a server and a desktop when it comes to 'server functionality'. All you need are the correct packages.
[13:03] <manners> anyone tried tvmobili
[13:03] <n3rV3> cypher-neo, yes definitely, performance would be hit though
[13:04] <atvr> owenll1: yes but i just dont understand
[13:04] <Seveas> bullgard4, click the button that makes it display this
[13:05] <sanku> Seveas: So, for a server, where are these packages hiding, say OpenSSH, LAMP, mail that i can then download, install somehow onto my desktop config ?
[13:05] <Romance> ok i think i just crashed my ubuntu :)
[13:05] <Seveas> sanku, sudo apt-get install openssh-server apache2 exim mysql php-mysql
[13:06] <maxagaz> lalagirl: the disc doesn't go inside, it's not powered on when I plug it
[13:06] <cypher-neo> n3rV3, I haven't worked much with servers. My last server attempt was with, uhhh... 8.10, or 9.04 and it failed miserably because i wasn't used to the server interface.
[13:06] <Seveas> cypher-neo, the terminal is your friend. Learn to love it :)
[13:07] <sanku> Saveas, true, if i had the dvd's.  But i have to do this over the internet.  Even discover pkg names, that you reeled off.  i have only the ONE install dvd.
[13:07] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I love the terminal!! In fact, I learned to love it more after my fail-server.
[13:07] <atvr> owenll: can you help me please
[13:07] <lalagirl> maxagaz okay here is the solution, reboot with the superdrive plugged in
[13:07] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I did that...
[13:08] <n3rV3> cypher-neo, yes start using and learning terminal
[13:08] <atvr> where do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``
[13:08] <cypher-neo> n3rV3, Been there. That's practically all I use now.
[13:08] <n3rV3> :)
[13:09] <atvr> almoxarife: are you there my friend :)
[13:09] <sanku> Saveas, yes, may be i can use ' https://torrent.ubuntu.com ' which i see on the top of my screen on this channel -- and download those other dvd's.  Thanx for the ideas.
[13:09] <Seveas> atvr, in /etc/default/grub on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line after quiet splash
[13:09] <Seveas> atvr, and then run update-grub
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:10] <atvr> where do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``