[17:47] <melter> does anyone know when libreoffice 3.4 will be available in the ppa?
[17:47] <KM0201> melter: i'd suggest asking the maintainer of the PPA?
[17:47] <pythonirc101> ikonia: should i be worried about killing my boot?
[17:47] <Paradox_b> pythonirc101 - is currently active, but it is not listed in mdadm.conf. if
[17:47] <Paradox_b> W: mdadm: it is needed for boot, then YOUR SYSTEM IS NOW UNBOOTABLE!
[17:47] <Paradox_b> W: mdadm: please inspect the output of /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf, compare
[17:47] <Paradox_b> W: mdadm: it to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, and make the necessary changes.
[17:48] <escott> pythonirc101, do you need it to boot
[17:48] <hgghjhgj> àË£¡´ó¼ÒºÃ£¡»¶ÓÎÒÂð£¿
[17:48] <ikonia> pythonirc101: in what respect ?
[17:48] <pythonirc101> escott: I need to boot from /dev/sde -- not from the raid 0 at /dev/md1
[17:49] <pythonirc101> but what i'm worried about is if the boot sequence will use some part of /dev/md1 -- does it?
[17:49] <Syniq> /30/3
[17:49] <Syniq> er...
[17:49] <escott> pythonirc101, then the warning is not relevant to your boot
[17:49] <pythonirc101> should i try to reboot
[17:50] <escott> pythonirc101, i wouldnt be surprised if the md array doesn't come back up (but you can rescan and reassemble it) if you want it to come up manually you have to add it to mdadm.conf
[17:50] <pythonirc101> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/423775/
[17:53] <lolmatic> how can i reset my gamma (intel) after some game set it to some weird value?
[17:53] <hgghjhgj> ´ó¼ÒºÃ£¬ÕâÀïÓÐÆ¯ÁÁµÄÃÃÃÃÂð£¿Çë¿ªÎÒÐ¡´°¡£
[17:54] <maco> hgghjhgj: stop
[17:55] <goltoof> how do i completely remove yakuake? it won't get rid of the profile, works fine as other user
[17:55] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  you delete the file from the users home dir...
[17:55] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  thing to rember.. apt-get will NOT touch files in the users home. (normaly)
[17:55] <hgghjhgj> ¶Ô´ó¼ÒËµ:¡º #help ¡»
[17:55] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  at least you are narrowing it down. :)
[17:56] <goltoof> dr_willis, did that
[17:56] <maco> hgghjhgj:  please stop pounding on the keyboard. if you have a question, ask it in english.
[17:56] <escott> lolmatic, xrandr does gamma correction
[17:56] <Slart> !cn  | hgghjhgj
[17:57] <maco> Slart: you see what hgghjhgj is saying as chinese? i just see accented latin characters
[17:57] <escott> lolmatic, so i think you could do xrandr --gamma 1:1:1 or some variant
[17:57] <TSG> Hello
[17:57] <Slart> maco: I probably see the same thing you're seeing.. but then I cheated using the whois info =)
[17:58] <maco> Slart: ooh haha
[17:58] <lolmatic> escott: thanks but i already found it out
[17:58] <acelte> Does anyone know when the sun-java package in the repository is going to be updated? It's been sitting at 24 for a while.
[17:58] <TSG> Just a quick question for anyone using gnome-3 on natty
[17:58] <Tekk_``> !ask | TSG
[17:59] <hgghjhgj> HI LOVE
[17:59] <deadowl> I'm trying to use find to find all non-hidden files in the present directory, but I don't have -path available
[17:59] <sbarcteam> hi guys. my college's maverick died after the latest kernel upgrade (2.6.35-30)
[17:59] <goltoof_> could the profile settings be in ram
[17:59] <goltoof_> ?
[17:59] <hgghjhgj> HI LOVE
[17:59] <sbarcteam> s/college/collegue/
[17:59] <hgghjhgj> HI ALL
[17:59] <goltoof_> there is no profile dir in home
[18:00] <dr_willis_> goltoof_,  look in the .kde dirs? you could just move them all to some other dir for safekeeping.
[18:00] <dr_willis_> if you logged out/back in. then they wouldent be in ram
[18:00] <TSG> Alright when I try to change my theme I try to place the theme file into /usr/share/gnome-shell/ but it says I am not authorized to do so. But when I login as root the download file is not there
[18:00] <dr_willis_> or at least i wouldent think so. :)
[18:01] <Almegor> #ubuntu
[18:01] <Almegor> ><"
[18:03] <escott> TSG, $HOME for root is /root not /home/username
[18:03] <Guest69362> where can i get help with ubuntu server 11.04?
[18:03] <jc__> whats the prob?
[18:03] <Corey> !ask | Guest26079
[18:03] <Phantom> can't upload a website
[18:04] <dr_willis_> -rw------- 1 willis willis   112 2011-06-29 13:03 yakuakerc
[18:06] <Snicers> how do you set a file to have rwx with umask? umask 000 only allows for rw
[18:06] <dr_willis_> what # is rwx anyway?
[18:07] <TSG> escott, how do I access $HOME?
[18:07] <Tekk_``> dr_willis_: 777 I think
[18:07] <Tekk_``> dr_willis_: though I always use the rwx syntax :p
[18:07] <TSG> It was much easier when I could right click --> open file as root
[18:08] <dr_willis_> n contrast, a umask of 000 will make newly created directories readable, writable and descendible for everyone (the permissions will be 777). Such a umask is highly insecure and you should never set the umask to 000
[18:08] <escott> TSG, it is /home/username/whatever
[18:08] <dr_willis_> from the URL i pasted a while back...
[18:08] <dr_willis_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/44542/what-is-umask-and-how-does-it-work
[18:08] <TSG> escott, yes but that is not root
[18:08] <dr_willis_> desendable dirs are executable...
[18:09] <TSG> I need to extract a file into /usr/share/gnome-shell/ and it is saying I need to be root
[18:09] <Guest98744> trying to create a server using ubuntu server. Have a domain name, 11.04 installed on an independant computer, and a website made ready to be uploaded. Can't connect to server using WinSCP or any other client software and if i search for it in firefox it connects me to our router requesting the loggin information. How can i fix or where can i get help?
[18:09] <escott> TSG, the point is that when you start that root shell your pwd is changed to /root because that is $HOME for root. you need to specify the full path to the file which is /home/username/whatever
[18:09] <dr_willis_> TSG,  that makes sence.
[18:09] <dr_willis_> TSG,  you need to do suich  tasks with 'root' priviliges.  via sudo normally
[18:10] <user_> who can help me?
[18:10] <graingert> heya
[18:10] <Tekk_``> !ask | user_
[18:11] <jimmy51_> i'm having trouble getting kerberos to work to connect to my AD domain controller.  i've installed kerberos, added my realm info, sync'd my servers with NTP, but i still get errors when i run kinit, or i get nothing at all.
[18:11] <Snicers> I am trying to set the umask as 00# where # is just read and execute.
[18:11] <user_> how i can put my Launcher panel active
[18:11] <user_> ?
[18:11] <venusto> hello
[18:11] <Snicers> but 00 doesn't allow file execution
[18:11] <jimmy51_> kinit: KDC reply did not match expectations while getting initial credentials
[18:11] <venusto> im here.
[18:11] <Snicers> which is needed for php scripts.
[18:11] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  umask of 000 would set the  modes to be 777
[18:12] <Odisha1> hello.. i m using ubuntu install through windows instraller. i m having problem with LCD backlight. plz help me.
[18:12] <Snicers> dr_willis_, it is not, 000 sets it to -rw-rw-rw-
[18:13] <TSG> What would be the sudo command to transfer a file from /home/nick/downloads/ to /usr/share/gnome-shell/  ??
[18:13] <jimmy51_> doh. thought i was in server
[18:13] <dr_willis_> try 0000 perhaps.. checking for excamples via google
[18:13] <kevin123> hey guys, I tried to boot ubuntu using a liveCD and it gets stuck in the prompt i can type.  the last thing that i see is stopping system v runlevel compatibility
[18:13] <graingert> TSG, sudo
[18:14] <Abhijit> is clamav no more for linux?
[18:14] <user> ubottu: Huh? I didn't ask a question
[18:14] <graingert> Abhijit, no
[18:14] <user> ubottu: I didn't I simply stated I didn't ask to ask.
[18:14] <Abhijit> graingert, any quality alternate?
[18:14] <dr_willis_> ahh files and dirs are treated differntly with umask it seems.
[18:14] <dr_willis_> Assuming the umask has the value 174, any new file will be created with the permissions 602 and any new directory will have permissions 603
[18:14] <graingert> apt://clamav
[18:15] <Abhijit> ubuntu wiki still contains info abour clamav.
[18:15] <Abhijit> graingert, amm?
[18:15] <TSG> I'm not new to linux, I am just having difficulties from the switch from mint11 ->>> natty gnome 3
[18:15] <graingert> Abhijit, I am on 11.04
[18:15] <Snicers> dr_willis_, correct, but is there no way to get x with umask on files?
[18:15] <graingert> Abhijit, and it works fine for me
[18:15] <graingert> Abhijit, just install it at apt://clamav
[18:15] <Odisha1> hello.. i m using ubuntu install through windows instraller. i m having problem with LCD backlight. plz help me..
[18:15] <graingert> Abhijit, or if you can't you have some issue with your repos
[18:16] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  all i am doing is googling and reading... You are doing this also in addation to sitting here in irc? :)
[18:16] <graingert> Odisha1, it's wubi, and can you tell us what device you are installing to
[18:16] <Abhijit> graingert, i currently have clamav installed. but its old version. not updated.
[18:16] <Abhijit> graingert, i am on lucid btw.
[18:16] <llutz> Snicers: umask can't do that
[18:16] <graingert> Abhijit, install apt://clamav-freshclam
[18:16] <user> Any good programs to record ubuntu screens?
[18:16] <KM0201> Odisha1: step 1. dump wubi
[18:16] <Snicers> dr_willis_, several tabs of reference, youtube videos, and an hour into it before I came here.
[18:16] <graingert> Abhijit, ah, update to 11.04 for latest packages
[18:17] <Abhijit> graingert, what is that? is it the orifinal clamav?
[18:17] <KM0201> user: desktop recorder
[18:17] <Pici> !screencast | user
[18:17] <KM0201> !info gtk-desktop-recorder
[18:17] <KM0201> hmm
[18:17] <graingert> Abhijit, that's the clam updater
[18:17] <kevin123> is there a way to force the gui to come up?
[18:17] <Abhijit> graingert, ok
[18:17] <graingert> kevin123, no
[18:17] <dr_willis_> so 000 does it for dirs.. but not files.
[18:17] <Abhijit> graingert, its already installed here
[18:17] <kevin123> so if it doesnt boot how do i troubleshoot it
[18:17] <Snicers> dr_willis_, yup, why the hell did they do that?
[18:17] <graingert> kevin123, it?
[18:17] <KM0201> user: are you wanting screenshots, or to record what happens on screen (for a video)
[18:17] <llutz> Snicers: why do you want executable files by default?
[18:17] <graingert> kevin123, what is it?
[18:18] <kevin123> tried to boot ubuntu livecd and the computer wont boot
[18:18] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  security and you normally DO want dirs executable..
[18:18] <dr_willis_> or else you cant cd into them
[18:18] <kevin123> it gets stuck at stopping system v rnlevel compatibility
[18:18] <escott> TSG, sounds like you are new to unix (or at least new to the command line -- which is fine just ask the question directly) sudo cp /home/nick/Downloads/theme-whatever.tgz /usr/share/gnome-shell. then sudo chown root:root /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme-whatever.tgz; cd /usr/share/gnome-shell; sudo tar -xzvf theme-whatever.tgz
[18:18] <user> KM0201: I want to record a webcam session
[18:18] <graingert> kevin123, odd, google the device or try the alternate install disk
[18:18] <KM0201> hmm, not sure on recording just the webcam session.
[18:18] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  your task of 'making every new file executable by default' is a much  'stranger' thing to be doing. :)
[18:18] <Tekk_``> oh!
[18:18] <Tekk_``> what's the updated kernel ppa?
[18:19] <KM0201> !info recordmydesktop
[18:19] <kevin123> should i try a 64 bit disk?
[18:19] <KM0201> i knew i wasn't crazy
[18:19] <Tekk_``> that's why I can't get it working, the official ubuntu kernel was too old
[18:19] <Tekk_``> memory is a great thing when it works..
[18:19] <graingert> kevin123, no idea what device are you using
[18:19] <dr_willis_> by default, a directory is created with 777 and a file 666.
[18:19] <Snicers> dr_willis_ that makes sense of course, but I need php scripts executable otherwise visitors to a site can't use them.
[18:20] <graingert> Odisha1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Hardware
[18:20] <escott> user, try cheese
[18:20] <graingert> Odisha1, okay
[18:20] <graingert> Odisha1, what model?
[18:20] <kevin123> i am just using an old demsnsion 5150 PC it has data that i need to recover, the processor is compatiable with 64 bit os ( i know because i have a 64 bit freeBSD system running on another pc that is the same)
[18:21] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  you have to do it some other way.. basicakky its a security feature..
[18:21] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/64956-umask-files.html
[18:21] <llutz> Snicers: php-scripts to be run by a webserver? they don't need to be executable
[18:21] <escott> kevin123, in the live cd run the following command "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo" it will list processor capabilities. see if "lm" is in that list
[18:21] <dr_willis_> llutz,  i was thinking that also.. but i dont do web servers. :)
[18:21] <graingert> escott, can you do that from the live cd boot loader?
[18:21] <Snicers> dr_willis_ I just came across that site myself lol
[18:21] <llutz> dr_willis_: at least none of my _working_ php-files are exec
[18:22] <kevin123> nothing happens
[18:22] <escott> graingert, no sorry didn't realize kevin123 was stuck at the bootloader
[18:22] <Odisha1> graingert, i m using Emachines E727
[18:22] <graingert> Odisha1, what is the problem you are having with the LCD?
[18:23] <Odisha1> whn i boot to ubuntu then backlight turns off
[18:23] <edgarpoe> Hi until today my Ubuntu was working fine. It's a Wubi installation with Ubuntu inside Win Vista. When I booted it now I get a Error cannot find GRLDR in all devices Press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[18:23] <Odisha1> & in windows it runs well
[18:23] <graingert> Odisha1, second hit on google: http://pointelement.blogspot.com/2010/09/installing-ubuntu-1004-on-acer-e.html
[18:24] <graingert> Odisha1, Change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux" in /etc/default/grub
[18:24] <graingert> Odisha1, you will need to have installed it first though
[18:24] <raven> hi
[18:24] <graingert> Odisha1, I don't know if you can change boot options in wubi - I assume one can hack it
[18:25] <graingert> anybody?
[18:25] <escott> Odisha1, check to see if anything exists in /sys/class/backlight. if there are no files there the kernel is not recognizing the backlight, in which case you need to try a newer or older kernel
[18:25] <kevin123> graingert: would you like my specs of the computer?
[18:26] <raven> mount gives me no-block-device-error...
[18:26] <raven> mount gives me no-block-device-error. what could be wrong?
[18:26] <graingert> kevin123, no just the serial number, but if you built it yourself...
[18:26] <graingert> kevin123, model number*
[18:27] <kevin123> i didnt build myself i can give you the model num
[18:27] <graingert> kevin123, basically anything other than "the live cd didn't work *cryface*"
[18:27] <llutz> raven: what do you try to mount?
[18:27] <graingert> kevin123, :P
[18:27] <Odisha1> escott, how can i check? i m new to linux
[18:27] <kevin123> its the dell Dimension 5150, lol
[18:28] <raven> mount gives me no-block-device-error. what could be wrong?
[18:28] <llutz> raven: what do you try to mount?
[18:28] <raven> llutz /dev/null
[18:28] <llutz> raven: why?
[18:28] <graingert> Odisha1, have you got it installed yet?
[18:28] <Snicers> How do you control FTP users permissions?
[18:29] <escott> Odisha1, if you can open a terminal you can type "ls /sys/class/backlight" thats the easiest way. you could also just use the file browser to go to that folder
[18:29] <graingert> escott, the solution is here for Odisha1 http://pointelement.blogspot.com/2010/09/installing-ubuntu-1004-on-acer-e.html
[18:29] <kevin123> graingert: dell dimension 5150, wish there was a way to give you more like an error nuimber but it just hangs
[18:29] <llutz> Snicers: read documentation for your ftp-server
[18:29] <llutz> of*
[18:30] <raven> llutz, perhaps i could use a device whitch contains only "nothing" as mass-storage with neverending capacity .........
[18:30] <raven> llutz no its only a joke ;)
[18:30] <graingert> kevin123, try booting the livecd with nosplash and getting rid of quiet
[18:30] <graingert> kevin123, know how to do that?
[18:30] <kevin123> nope lol
[18:30] <Nisstyre> yes
[18:30] <graingert> kevin123, I believe it's F6 and then you press left
[18:31] <llutz> raven: do you want help or just to be funny?
[18:31] <graingert> kevin123, and you get a line of text with some options
[18:31] <kevin123> graingert: ok ill try. so as soon as it boots off the press f6
[18:31] <graingert> kevin123, and it should say quiet splash --
[18:31] <graingert> kevin123, remove quiet and change splash to nosplash
[18:31] <graingert> kevin123, removing both also works
[18:32] <raven> llutz, bit funny should be ok also here
[18:32] <kevin123> graingert: will try now
[18:32] <w30> raven, would a link to dev/null work for you? like: ln -s
[18:33] <scud> i'm using ubuntu 10.04. is there a cooler/better looking gdm then the default?
[18:33] <raven> w30 it was a joke
[18:34] <escott> scud, you can get gdm themes. google for gnome look and i think that will take you to the main theme website
[18:35] <Tekk_``> does anyone have a link to the .debs for the updated linux repo? I can't seem to find them
[18:35] <Abhijit> linux repo?
[18:35] <kirk> Anybody know how to add an LPD network printer using command line?  I want to make a script to deploy printers to computers remotely over ssh, and so I want to know how to do it CLI.
[18:37] <graingert> kevin123, good lucks
[18:38] <kevin123> graingert: i have a screen now that says shows ubuntu and it has several options 1)try ubuntu w/o install 2) install ubuntu 3)check disk for defects 4) test memory 5)boot from first hd... when i hit F6 i get another menu
[18:38] <w30> raven /me cat chuckle > /dev/null
[18:38] <Corey> k1rk: I'd do it via cups.
[18:38] <llutz> k1rk: man lpadmin          should help
[18:38] <Corey> !print | k1rk
[18:39] <kevin123> graingert: this menu contains 1)acpi=off 2)noapci 3)nolapci 4)edd=on 5)nodrmraid 6)nomodest 7)free software onl
[18:39] <graingert> kevin123, I think if you press left
[18:40] <graingert> kevin123, you get to the string you need to edit
[18:40] <dr_willis_> !nomodeset
[18:40] <kevin123> graingert: got it now i remove quite and splash?
[18:40] <dr_willis_> has how to enable nomodeset with screen shots.
[18:40] <PythonSnake> !edubuntu | pythonsnake
[18:40] <dr_willis_> not seen a site with a video of it yet.  :)
[18:41] <graingert> kevin123, yep
[18:41] <graingert> kevin123, that way you get to see what happens before a crash
[18:41] <graingert> kevin123, see/read
[18:41] <kevin123> graingert: sweet thanks!
[18:42] <Tekk_``> can someone link me to the current stable linux-image deb? not the one in natty, but the updated on
[18:42] <olskolirc> how do I make an inch space on each side of my pico page please - the same way you would see the indentation in an office writer?
[18:42] <graingert> kevin123, it should help you debug
[18:44] <ki__> How do I start developing i-phone apps and android apps?
[18:44] <kevin123> graingert: stuck in the same place stopping system v runleevel compatibilty
[18:44] <Zzarkc-20> ki__, I believe you have to be running a Mac OS with Developer tools.
[18:44] <llutz> ki__:  #android-dev
[18:44] <Tekk_``> ki__: iphone apps require a mac to develop, you can develop android ones with google's sdk
[18:44] <Zzarkc-20> ki__,  As far as the iPhone apps.
[18:45] <ki__> I can't develop iphone apps on linux?
[18:45] <trism> Tekk_``: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic (that's the one currently in proposed)
[18:45] <ki__> wtf mate
[18:45] <mobodo> anyone knows a channel to discuss PC hardware? I'm having trouble with a new motherboard and I don't want to pollute this channel...
[18:45] <k1rk> Sorry, did anyone answer my question about LDP printing?
[18:45] <k1rk> Can't scroll up on irssi and am at work so I had to step away.
[18:45] <dr_willis_> ki__,  thats not supriseing really.
[18:45] <kevin123> ki__: no you need a mac to develop iphone apps
[18:45] <llutz> k1rk: man lpadmin          should help
[18:45] <DasEi> mobodo: #hardware , gg
[18:45] <Tekk_``> k1rk: pgup/pgdn ;)
[18:45] <kevin123> ki__: xtools only runs on the mac os x
[18:46] <k1rk> Tekk_``: Doh.
[18:46] <Zzarkc-20> ki__, It's a bit annoying, I know. Not sure why Apple does that, but I've never known anyone to develop for iOS on another OS.
[18:46] <k1rk> Tekk_``: I normally use konversation but I had to hop on a server to get around websense to get on here. hah.
[18:46] <Tekk_``> Zzarkc-20: they do it because they're apple
[18:46] <mobodo> DasEi: thanks :)
[18:46] <Tekk_``> k1rk: ah
[18:46] <DasEi> mobodo: ##hardware , but the upper info brings you there
[18:46] <k1rk> llutz: Thanks I'll take a look.
[18:47] <kevin123> graingert: i have a feeling its the video driver, because my video is all messed up is there a way i can boot in safe video mode ?
[18:47] <Zzarkc-20> Tekk_``, lol. I still love Mac though. And if you like Linux, they both still run on a unix base.
[18:47] <graingert> kevin123, hmm - okay try using the alternate install cd
[18:47] <scud> escott: where is the login window so I may choose the gdm theme gz file?
[18:47] <Tekk_``> Zzarkc-20: I'd rather use a real bsd ;P
[18:47] <scud> or gdm theme chooser app
[18:48] <Zzarkc-20> Tekk_``, Haha. I'll just say "alright" to prevent a flame war.
[18:48] <escott> scud, that part i don't know. you might try sudo gdmsetup after logging in. otherwise during login look for a config button
[18:48] <Blah> hey guys, I have a raid 0 setup with 2 x 1TB drives, I had windows 7 installed and partioned the windows drive to leave free space to install ubuntu, chose the install side by side option, everything went ok until i restarted the pc, now i get a grub rescue screen with "error: no such device: e196......"
[18:49] <jimmy51_> is there a quick way to toggle iptables on/off for debugging purposes?
[18:49] <dr_willis_> GDM in 11.04 isent really themeable..  you can change the wallpaper and a few other tweaks.. but its not as thamable as the old gdm.
[18:49] <scud> n/m
[18:49] <dr_willis_> actually i think it lost the feature in  the release befor 11.04 :)
[18:49] <scud> escott: system > preferences > appearance
[18:49] <Tekk_``> Zzarkc-20: to be more on topic, I'd rather use hurd. it actually has the gnu tools(hurd is based on the mach microkernel, which NeXT hybridized for NeXTSTEP which became OSX ;P)
[18:49] <orchata> Hi guys, is there an alternative to windows "hosts" file in ubuntu? I need to redirect a program from going to domain of a site to its different ip adress
[18:49] <dr_willis_> orchata,  ubuntu has a hosts file
[18:49] <escott> orchata, /etc/hosts
[18:50] <orchata> OK. thanks guys
[18:50] <orchata> That was very fast :)
[18:50] <kevin123> orchata: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_%28file%29
[18:50] <Zzarkc-20> Tekk_``, oooh. I haven't heard of hurd before. I'll have to check it out. A little bit of history I didn't know about.
[18:50] <kevin123> orchata: good to have as a refrence its a fav of mine lol
[18:50] <Tekk_``> Zzarkc-20: it's the GNU kernel. not ready for daily use at all yet, but it'll be awesome when it is :D;
[18:51] <kevin123> graingert: its so strange though because i have off the spash screen and no errors
[18:51] <Blah> anybody? or is it more of a forum question?
[18:51] <orchata> kevin123:  thanks
[18:51] <kevin123> orchata: np
[18:52] <genii-around> Blah: As I understand, if you have a Windows RAID setup, Wubi cannot be installed onto it
[18:52] <escott> Blah, what kind of raid?
[18:52] <Blah> i didn't install wubi, i installed ubuntu from CD onto a partition
[18:52] <Blah> raid 0
[18:53] <escott> Blah, no i mean what kind of raid controller
[18:53] <Blah> im not using a third party controller, so mobo i guess :S
[18:54] <celestica_-> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble changing my sources.list to use rsync instead of http. I keep getting an error that rsync isnt showing up in /usr/lib/apt/methods/, any guesses guys? Here is the test sources.list that I used: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635215/
[18:54] <kevin123> graingert: new cd... new error: cannont mount dev/loop0
[18:55] <Blah> but ubuntu did pick it up as one drive, i didn't have any problem with it being detected as 2 seperate drives, it listed the windows MBR and the windows partition, i simply resized the windows partition and installed ubuntu onto that
[18:55] <graingert> kevin123, is that the alternate CD?
[18:55] <kevin123> graingert: yep fresh burned ... its 64bit though
[18:55] <Blah> onto the free space i mena
[18:55] <graingert> kevin123, not being able to mount loop is odd
[18:56] <kevin123> graingert:any suggestions or ways taht i can give you moreinfo?
[18:56] <stephanmg> mh ubuntu natty seems to lack "ri". how do i get ri?
[18:56] <Cerrdor> How can I generate RSA key for SSH?
[18:56] <graingert> kevin123, I am afraid I am out of my depth
[18:56] <celestica_-> Cerrdor, check out 'man ssh-keygen'
[18:56] <stephanmg> Cerrdor: that's really well documentated!
[18:56] <graingert> Cerrdor, ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 10000
[18:57] <escott> Blah, if you google for "soft-raid" you will see some of the comments. some "soft-raid" is supported through device mapper dmraid, but the preferred linux solution is pure software implementation known as mdadm. likely your grub or initrd is not loading the required dmraid modules and cant find the system. if you can put the boot partition outside of the raid that may help
[18:57] <kevin123> graingert: thanks for your help anyway
[18:57] <Cerrdor> there it is I missed the -b
[18:57] <link_> Can anyone tell what the memory feature on kubuntus' okular is called?
[18:57] <graingert> Cerrdor, ssh also defaults to RSA
[18:57] <oCean> !info ri | stephanmg
[18:58] <Blah> escott, by outside the raid you mean on a seperate drive?
[18:59] <stephanmg> oCean: ty
[18:59] <escott> Blah, or in a partition at the front of the disk that is not raided (you can do that with mdadm, may not be possible with "soft-raid")
[19:00] <escott> Blah, generally the boot partition is no included in the raid array, if it is then it is included only as part of a raid 1 mirror and is booted as if it were not in the raid.
[19:00] <stephanmg> oCean: mh do i need another PPA for that?
[19:00] <oCean> stephanmg: nope, it is in universe repository
[19:00] <Blah> escott, so how exactly should i go forward? is there any documentation? I'm utterly new to raid, I've installed ubuntu before but only on single HD systems
[19:01] <celestica_-> Is there anyone who can help configure apt to use rsync instead of http?
[19:01] <graingert> celestica_-, no
[19:01] <stephanmg> strange oCean aptitude search ruby-defaults, does not find it
[19:01] <adubzz> what is the best console based irc client
[19:02] <oCean> stephanmg: ruby-defaults? package is called 'ri'   sudo apt-get install ri
[19:02] <stephanmg> oCean: ouch thx
[19:02] <oCean> stephanmg: welcome
[19:03] <genii-around> adubzz: Most swear by irssi
[19:04] <ghostnik11> hi i am having problems with samba sharing when it comes to the password prompt
[19:04] <escott> Blah, if possible i would recommend disabling the raid in the bios. but that will screw up windows. since the installer was able to identify the raid array thats a good sign that dmraid should support it if you can get the kernel and initrd loaded
[19:04] <ghostnik11> is there a way i can get around the password promt and i put in the password but it doesn't work
[19:04] <stephanmg> mh strange, ri show various [ESC strings pretty ugly
[19:05] <Blah> escott, so what now? boot into linux off the disc and reinstall grub? or what?
[19:05] <escott> Blah, the big question mark here is "can grub bootloader see the raid array to load the boot partition" my guess is that may be unsurmountable, and you may need to get another disk for a boot sector at which point I would dispense with soft-raid on that disk and go direct for it
[19:06] <escott> Blah, figure out exactly what kind of bios soft-raid you have, and either ask here or in #grub if it is supported
[19:06] <Blah> escott, thanks :D much appreciated, I will investigate and return :P
[19:10] <wildbat> grub can boot soft-raid ~ but only in raid1
[19:11] <FishEee> no idea why the only version i can install is 9.10
[19:11] <Blah> escott, intel rst raid 0
[19:12] <dr_willis_> FishEee,  if you have video issues. try the nomodeset option for newer releases.
[19:12] <dr_willis_> !nomodeset
[19:12] <w30> My firefox home .mozilla directory got mangled with a power failue so I renamed it  it and started a new to make firefox work. What files do I need to move to the new one to get my bookmarks back? bookmarkbackups is not enough, *sigh*
[19:12] <Blah> escott, apparantely that's the type of softRaid it's using, I have been able to find guides describing raid 1 and raid 5 installation, I haven't been able to find anything about someone in the same situation as me, with the same error
[19:13] <olskolirc> how do I make an inch space on each side of my pico page please - the same way you would see the indentation in an office writer?
[19:14] <FishEee> dr_willis_, how do i do that.. i do have video issues
[19:14] <FishEee> i put the CD in and then what
[19:14] <dr_willis_> !nomodeset | FishEee
[19:14] <orchata> I want to divide my flash drive into 2 partitions and use second partion as a live usb/cd  (ubuntu). But I still want to be able to use it as flash drive and don't want the second partion to be affected anyhow by windows formating. I know there is a way to do, I just cannot find it
[19:15] <Slart> olskolirc: are we talking about the text editor pico or something else?
[19:15] <FishEee> i load into the ubuntu wallpaper and never get install wizard
[19:15] <olskolirc> yes pico Slart
[19:15] <gisli> fishee: you have to click the install icon on the desktop
[19:15] <Slart> olskolirc: and you want the margin to show up on the screen? or when you print it out?
[19:16] <fabiano> hi
[19:16] <gisli> oh sorry...I might be jumping into a conversation that was before I came
[19:16] <olskolirc> i want to set an inch margin on both sides Slart before I even start pico and write that to alias
[19:16] <dr_willis_> FishEee,  so the system does boot to the desktop then...  you have a normal desktop with icons and stuff?
[19:16] <TSG> Okay I got my theme installed, sorry I was too used to the #pacman. Had to learn ubuntu's language
[19:16] <TSG> Thank you for the help
[19:16] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  text editors normally dont work that way. unless you set up auto-tab/indenting features.
[19:17] <olskolirc> ty dr_willis_
[19:17] <FishEee> no.. i do not even have it installed yet.. i put the CD in.. it does the Ubuntu loading bar with dots.. ubuntu wallpaper appears... then nothing.. this is for 10.04+.. 9.10 works as its supposed to
[19:17] <trism> w30: instead of copying over anything, you may want to try going to Bookmarks/Show all bookmarks then Backup and Restore/Restore/Choose a file... and select the most recent backup to restore
[19:17] <FishEee> dr_willis_, i can install 9.10 and then upgrade to 10.04 and everything works fine
[19:17] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  why are you even wanting to do this?
[19:17] <TSG> But during the installation I have ran into a problem... The gnome-shell itself has the theme, but the windows borders do not...
[19:17] <gisli> fishee: no install icon on the desktop or anything?
[19:17] <dr_willis_> TSG,  using gnome-3 ?
[19:18] <FishEee> nope
[19:18] <chriswr> anyone know if there is a way to turn off the idle on a computer cause mine seems to crash 50% of the time when it goes into idle
[19:18] <TSG> yes
[19:18] <gwelymernan> does ayone else have problems using skype in 10.10?
[19:18] <gisli> chriswer: power settings
[19:18] <FishEee> gisli, on 10.* i get just wallpaper... on 11.04 i get wallpaper and top panel bar
[19:18] <TSG> @ dr_willis_
[19:18] <Cerrdor> so once the rsa key is loaded to the server how do I ssh to it?
[19:18] <dr_willis_> TSG,  with the new changes to gnome 3 stuff - you have to use a theme thats gtk2 and gtk3 compatiable. (or so i read at the webupd8 blog site)
[19:18] <dr_willis_> TSG,  or else you can get into some odd situatuiions.
[19:18] <chriswr> gisli, where would i find the power settings on ubuntu 11.04?
[19:19] <olskolirc> because I like pico/nano dr_willis_ i can't get the hang of vi/vim or have the patience for it
[19:19] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  why are you word processing in a text editor?
[19:19] <TSG> Ah.... Well i'm sure I can pull some edits to get it working. Ex: mess with the default colors of the windows
[19:19] <dr_willis_> learn vi/vim. its worth the effort. :)
[19:19] <dr_willis_> gvim helps you learn vim also. a little :)
[19:19] <olskolirc> ok :-( doing it now :-(
[19:20] <gisli> chris: power management in the system-preferences
[19:20] <rypervenche> vim is very good :)
[19:20] <olskolirc> which one should i learn dr_willis_ vi or vim
[19:20] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  i still wonder why you wanted margins in a text editor.
[19:20] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  vim is 'vi'
[19:20] <dr_willis_> !vim
[19:20] <dr_willis_> install the vim package also. if your system is using the vim-tiny, it will have color  and other features.
[19:20] <chriswr> gisli, alright i found it thnx
[19:20] <olskolirc> because i want an inch on each side of my nano - i can set the end column with -r 105 but that doesn't give me a left margin
[19:21] <dr_willis_> is vim-tiny the default on 11.04? i never noticed.
[19:21] <gisli> np
[19:21] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  a margin for what> just so you can see it better? or for printing?
[19:21] <escott> Blah, yeah i don't know enough to say if grub can handle intel rst. i think stripping was probably a bad choice here. if the personality were raid 1 mirrored then grub could load the boot partition on sda and start the initrd at which point the kernel modules for dmraid could take over and support the fs as mirrored once the partitions are mounted rw. but with stripping the bootloader may not even be able to find the initrd and kernel
[19:21] <olskolirc> so i can see it better dr_willis_
[19:21] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  so you are doing word processing in nano? what are you writeing?
[19:22] <olskolirc> im learning bash scripting in nano and its highlighted too :-)
[19:22] <Cerrdor> if I want to see the contents of a file in terminal whats the command? cat?
[19:22] <mneptok> Cerrdor: yes
[19:22] <Slart> Cerrdor: cat, more, most
[19:22] <dr_willis_> olskolirc,  check out Geany - if you want a really good editor to do scripting work in.  its also avail for windows.
[19:22] <rypervenche> olskolirc: You should do "cp /etc/vim/vimrc ~/.vimrc" then open it up and uncomment most of the lines so you'll have options that you want.
[19:22] <Blah> escott, what's the easiest way for me to setup the PC to boot into windows 7 again and ignore the ubuntu partition for now? so i can use the PC again and perhaps look for a solution on the forums and investigate more?
[19:22] <Cerrdor> ok so cat most will print the whole thing?
[19:23] <dr_willis_> cat 'concatcates' the data. :)  spits it out to stdout.
[19:23] <Zzarkc-20> Cerrdor, I believe it's just cat. $~ cat <file>
[19:23] <Slart> Cerrdor: yes, cat just prints out the entire file
[19:23] <dr_willis_> more/less/most are 'pagers' that help you read files easier.
[19:23] <Cerrdor> ohhh ok
[19:24] <dr_willis_> cat file1 file2 file3 > file123     :)
[19:24] <dr_willis_> is common ussage for cat also.
[19:24] <Cerrdor> right
[19:24] <Cerrdor> been way too long away from linux
[19:24] <Cerrdor> lol
[19:24] <Cerrdor> forgot most of it
[19:25] <escott> Blah, this link has various information but i cant really guide you in getting the existing system working. my recomendation would be either (a) get a disk exclusively for ubuntu, and if you want to strip some of your data you can selectively do so by mounting partitions on the stripped disks or (b) do away with the soft-raid bios raid config, reinstall windows and figure out a different raid solution for it, and use mdadm to raid only t
[19:25] <escott> he partitions you need raided on linux. but do ask the channel maybe someone knows more about intel soft-raid
[19:25] <escott> Blah, forgot the link http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-raid/2010/8/18/6885997
[19:25] <tuxlon> my systems always crashes when i watch video
[19:25] <rypervenche> run "vimtutor" to learn how to use vim.
[19:25] <gisli> tuxlon: dont watch flash videos ;D
[19:25] <tuxlon> would it be the videocard?
[19:26] <Blah> escott, thanks for the help, so there isn't any way to get the system to simply boot into windows and ignore grub and the ubuntu installation?
[19:26] <olskolirc> i just installed geany and started it with geany at the command and it seg faulted on me :-(
[19:26] <buzzkill> howdy all.. I have an issue I am trying to track down. Google did not provide a clear enough result for me. I am getting this in dmesg every 5 seconds... actually, 10 of these every 5 seconds.
[19:26] <buzzkill>  non-matching-uid symlink following attempted in sticky world-writable directory by sabnzbdplus (fsuid 1003 != 1000)
[19:26] <escott> tuxlon, full system crash or gui crash?
[19:26] <tuxlon> full system
[19:26] <tuxlon> after 5 minuts
[19:26] <tuxlon> i checked everything
[19:27] <usr13> tuxlon: What exactly does it do?  Just power off?
[19:27] <tuxlon> power off
[19:27] <usr13> tuxlon: Is it a laptop?
[19:27] <tuxlon> yes
[19:27] <escott> tuxlon, its most likely something with your video card, what exactly i don't know. you could try dropping to gnome-classic and disabling the gl effects to see if that makes it more stable
[19:27] <usr13> tuxlon: Does it need cleaning?
[19:27] <tuxlon> i cleaned it
[19:28] <escott> tuxlon, as usr13 suggested it might just be overheating. check the sensors output
[19:28] <usr13> tuxlon: Or do you need to set the temprature shut off point (in bios) to higher degree?
[19:28] <escott> tuxlon, and if its an acer throw it in the trash and get something else :)
[19:29] <tuxlon> unfortunately its an acer and i'm thinking of throwing it in the trash
[19:29] <youmee> i run Ubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox, but why I don't see unity?
[19:29] <Hans_Henrik> been desperately trying to install g++-3.4, they are not in the last LTS's distro (strangely g++-3.2 is tho o.0), managed to install gcc-3.4 (cus its in the default repos), but tried to install g++-3.4 from.. debian lenny? now whenever i run aptitude, or apt-get, or update-manager, it just says this, and exit. apt-get: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8)
[19:29] <youmee> and how to turn it on?
[19:29] <Hans_Henrik> how do i fix apt-get?
[19:30] <FishEee> youmee, you install guest addons?
[19:30] <youmee> yes
[19:30] <gisli> hans:what do you mean?
[19:30] <youmee> FishEee: yes
[19:30] <usr13> When you tax  your system with video or other processor/display-adapter intensive tasks, some systems will overheat.  Thermal greas may need replacing. etc..
[19:30] <escott> tuxlon, do whatever you can to keep the thermal load down, but you and i aren't alone in having had overheating problems with acer laptops
[19:30] <BluesKaj> tuxlon, my acer works fine on ubuntu ,and it's 3 yrs old and still working well
[19:30] <tuxlon> in xfce it also crahes and it doesn't get really hot
[19:30] <Cerrdor> sudo apt-get omfg I broked it
[19:30] <Cerrdor> jk
[19:30] <escott> tuxlon, you might play around with powertop to see if you can get it cooler that way
[19:30] <okokok> anyone ever run into openvpn starting twice on boot in 10.04? i'm not super sure where to start looking on why it is started twice; everything's pretty much stock onthis machine
[19:31] <xelister> so, http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com seems down
[19:31] <tuxlon> it's 4 years old
[19:32] <Soothsayer> I installed ubuntu without creating any swap partition
[19:32] <smckdwn> howto install skype on ubuntu 10.04
[19:32] <youmee> FishEee: oh now it works! I just set checkbox on 'Enable 3D acceleration' in virtualbox
[19:32] <Soothsayer> I want to create a swap partition now, do I need the live cd ?
[19:32] <Slart> !swap | Soothsayer
[19:32] <rypervenche> smckdwn: Go to www.skype.com and get it there. The one in the repos isn't up-to-date I don't think.
[19:32] <FishEee> yeah..  youmee make sure you give it enough video memory too
[19:33] <FishEee> close to the max would probably be a good idea
[19:33] <youmee> FishEee: yeah thanks
[19:33] <Slart> Soothsayer: you don't need a live cd.. you can do it on a live system.. unless you need to resize the root partition.. then you'll need a live cd
[19:33] <rypervenche> !info skype
[19:33] <Slart> Soothsayer: you can use a swap file too.. that might be easier
[19:33] <Soothsayer> Slart, so just install gparted and run it from the present system itself ?
[19:33] <Slart> !skype
[19:33] <Slart> Soothsayer: yup.. you need a swap partition and then you use the swapon command, iirc
[19:34] <Soothsayer> Slart, will this also allow me to hibernate ?
[19:34] <Slart> Soothsayer: but check the link ubottu sent you.. it has lots of good info
[19:34] <thegladiator> which is a good ipod manager for ubuntu
[19:34] <Soothsayer> ye ive been reading on that page itself.
[19:34] <Slart> Soothsayer: it should
[19:34] <escott> Blah, sorry didn't see your message. you can run fixmbr from a windows rescue disk to reinstall the windows bootloader. im not familiar with the process myself though
[19:34] <tuxlon> is there any program to check my videocard?
[19:34] <mneptok> Soothsayer: hibernate is hit-or-miss. but swap is definitely required, and in greater capacity than physical RAM
[19:35] <Soothsayer> ok, swap partition or swap file?
[19:35] <usr13> tuxlon: lspci |grep -i vga
[19:35] <Soothsayer> I can't seem to find any good articles on creating a swap file
[19:35] <w30> trism, U da man, trism, that worked just fine. Thank You.
[19:35] <mneptok> Soothsayer: i always recommend partition.
[19:35] <Blah> escott, i've just booted the live cd and opened gparted, it's not showing any linux partitions, in fact there's just the windows and the MBR
[19:35] <Slart> Soothsayer: I use a swap file myself
[19:35] <Cerrdor> Anyone here have success in configuring paros in Ubuntu running tor?
[19:35] <Cerrdor> or i2p?
[19:35] <thegladiator> which is a good ipod manager for ubuntu
[19:36] <usr13> Soothsayer: Do you have a swap partition?  sudo fdisk -l
[19:36]  * mneptok and Slart take it outside for a good old-fashioned geek preference duel
[19:36] <Slart> hehe
[19:36] <Soothsayer> usr13, No, i dont
[19:36] <mneptok> *muah*
[19:36] <escott> tuxlon, it could just be a function of your video card that isn't working correctly. so if for instance you have nvidia and installed the nvidia drivers you could drop back to the nv drivers. or you could disable the desktop effects and use !classic to avoid touching gl functions in case one of those is crashing the system. if it still crashes then its more likely just a thermal limit
[19:37] <usr13> Soothsayer: Having a swap partition is best.
[19:37] <tuxlon> usr13: thanks, but i'm looking for something to check if it's broken etc
[19:38] <escott> Blah, is it still showing the resized windows or is the windows partition now showing as using the full disk
[19:38] <usr13> Soothsayer: But if you really want to use a swap file.... you can...
[19:38] <Blah> escott, using the full disk, no unused space at all, i just resized it again and im going to install ubuntu again, perhaps it was just a glitch
[19:38] <tuxlon> escott: but it happened on xfce as well
[19:39] <escott> tuxlon, have you installed sensors? it could easily be thermal limits
[19:39] <Cerrdor> how do I configure a static IP?
[19:39] <Cerrdor> ifconfig down eth0
[19:39] <tuxlon> escott and how can i install gnome classic, i'm using gnome without compiz
[19:39] <escott> Blah, thats very worrying. i would be afraid your windows partitions is being trashed
[19:40] <Cerrdor> then ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:40] <escott> Blah, because if the partition table writes are not going through, but the disk writes are....
[19:40] <mneptok> Cerrdor: PM?
[19:40] <genii-around> Cerrdor: If it will be permanent, better to just edit the /etc/network/interfaces file for it
[19:40] <escott> tuxlon, gnome without compiz is what i mean by classic (ie not unity in 11.04)
[19:40] <Blah> escott, yeah this is weird, I'm just going to recover windows 7 and wait until i can properly sort this out, I've already posted to the ubuntu forums
[19:41] <Blah> escott, thanks for all the help :)
[19:41] <escott> Blah, no problem. goodluck
[19:41] <Cerrdor> genii-around, thanks
[19:42] <olskolirc> I tried vi and HOW ANNOYING!  geeze im trying to learn bash not learn how to manipulate a program before i can program - vi is STUPID
[19:42] <tuxlon> escott: but if it's the temperature normally you wouldn't be able to restart the laptop imediately?
[19:42] <dgags> olskolirc: gedit
[19:42] <escott> tuxlon, another thing you can do is use mplayer. it will allow you to specify the drawing path for video with the -vo option. so try mplayer -vo help to list output methods and mplayer -vo x11 filename to draw with straight x11
[19:42] <olskolirc> I just want to write and go within my pretty little format in nano
[19:42] <usr13> Soothsayer: Something like this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/635251/
[19:42] <maco> olskolirc: its just a text editor. use nano if you like. it's ubuntu's default terminal editor
[19:43] <escott> tuxlon, perhaps. if the thermal violation is on only a small segment of the cpu it could cool off enough to be able to boot within a few seconds
[19:45] <usr13> Soothsayer:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/635254/
[19:46] <knightrage> you smell
[19:46] <knightrage> :o
[19:46] <mipo> hi
[19:46] <knightrage> jk kj
[19:46] <tuxlon> escott: ok'll keep on checking and i'll try mplayer but as i've been struggling with this problem for half a year now i just think it could be the videocard, the laptop is 5 years old now
[19:46] <DannyButterman> Hi there. I can't connect to a vpn from an ubuntu client when using wireless, but it works when using ethernet. Does someone have any idea ?
[19:46] <Pici> knightrage: Lets try to stay on-topic here.
[19:46] <Slava1> hello
[19:47] <mipo> I want to change language of all parts in ubuntu
[19:47] <knightrage> wrong window
[19:47] <mipo> please help me
[19:47] <zeroedout> Dannybutterman, it might be your iptables settings....
[19:47] <usr13> DannyButterman:  Could be that the wireless and wired networks use two different subnets
[19:47] <zeroedout> You can try to use something like firestarted to config it easy... or just disable it completely
[19:48] <w30> olskolirc, you should be able to do some simple editing in vi because it is always "just there" on unix,bsd,solaris, recovery disks, etc. How ever it comes with a lot of baggage like being able to do it all with the keyboard and speed if and only if you have all 10,000 commands memorized.
[19:48] <Slava1> please tell me, where I may find non technical chat? only speaking, chat, etc
[19:48] <wildgoose> mipo, To what language?
[19:48] <zeroedout> usr13: if he's vpn'ing in somewhere, does the ip he connects from matter?
[19:48] <mipo> Persian
[19:48] <thegladiator> any goood user friendly ipod managing software like itunes
[19:48] <DannyButterman> zeroedot, usr13: It could be, but there are error in the log about eth9k which is the driver for the wireless interface
[19:48] <mipo> wildgoose , Persian
[19:48] <Pici> zeroedout: firestarter is deprecated, gufw is what we are recommending now.
[19:48] <wildgoose> !persian > mipo
[19:49] <mipo> wildgoose , Persian(Farsi)
[19:49] <mipo> yes
[19:49] <zeroedout> pici: i'll have to check that out, thanks! I prefer shorewall on my server, but something gui is always sweet
[19:49] <usr13> DannyButterman: It also could be the way you have the vpn tunnel setup.   As zeroedout points out, the IP address difference could be very well the issue, (even if both wired and wireless are on same subnet).
[19:49] <Pici> zeroedout: ufw is the cli equivalent, they both interface with iptables though.
[19:49] <olskolirc> wow w30
[19:50] <Slava1> how show all channels on this irc-server?
[19:50] <w30> olskolirc, worst of all backspace doesn't delete what you just typed *sigh*
[19:50] <DannyButterman> usr13, zeroedout: I'm about to post the log, you'll see what I mean
[19:51] <aiwe> hi
[19:51] <guntbert> Slava1: you don't, they are too many, but ask in #freenode for further assistance please
[19:51] <tuxlon> mipo: language-pack-gnome-fa - GNOME translation updates for language Persian
[19:51] <usr13> DannyButterman: Okey dokey
[19:51] <aiwe> help pls how install .bin file
[19:51] <usr13> aiwe: What exactly is it?
[19:52] <aiwe> googleearth. bin
[19:52] <usr13> aiwe: chmod +x file-name.bin ; ./file-name.bin  or  sh file-name.bin
[19:52] <poshisfat> im new to xubuntu...how do i start a source tree to  install something
[19:52] <thegladiator> any one knows any good ipod software other than gtkpod ?
[19:52] <mipo> tuxlon , s
[19:52] <aiwe> usr13: thanks
[19:53] <DannyButterman> unbelievable. it works now. This makes no sense at all
[19:53] <mipo> tuxlon , and then
[19:53] <usr13> aiwe: NP
[19:53] <Pici> poshisfat: a 'source tree'?
[19:53] <Polah> aiwe: There's a .deb package of Google Earth?
[19:53] <usr13> DannyButterman: What did you do?
[19:53] <poshisfat> yeah....im trying to install a program
[19:53] <mneptok> aiwe: you'll want to use "sudo ./googleearth.bin" so the installer has rights to write stuff
[19:53] <guntbert> aiwe: no need to install it this way, it is in the repos
[19:53] <usr13> aiwe: Yes, as Pici says, you should use Ubuntu's package manager when ever possible.
[19:53] <guntbert> !googleearth | aiwe
[19:54] <poshisfat> ok thank you
[19:54] <Pici> usr13: I didn't say that, but it would be something that I would say.
[19:54] <thrillERboy> Hi, I cannot uninstall anything from Ubuntu. I get this error everytime :( http://pastebin.com/bF53xxgB
[19:54] <Pici> !apt | poshisfat
[19:54] <usr13> Pici: Sorry, that was Polah
[19:55] <usr13> !googlearth | aiwe
[19:55] <civixier> Hi! One of the first things I do when I install ubuntu is to get rid of all of the gnome-panels. Usually I fire up gconf-editor, goes to desktop > gnome > session > required_components and delete the panel key. However, this doesn't seem to work in 11.04 because it isn't there. How do I get rid of the last gnome-panel now? (Note that I still want to be able to start it by simply enter gnome-panel in a terminal).
[19:55] <DannyButterman> usr13: the only thing I did is to try a vpn connection in ethernet, which worked flawlessly. And now, some days after that, I boot up this netbook, try the vpn connection in wifi, and bam, it works....
[19:55] <poshisfat> well i cant find the files i want in there.im trying to install pysoulseek its a p2p client that allows you to share with the windows program called soulseek
[19:55] <mipo> Thanks so much
[19:55] <usr13> DannyButterman: Shazam!
[19:55] <thrillERboy> Even If I try to install from Terminal I get an error like crossplatformui failed.
[19:56] <tuxlon> mipo: check ist in controlcenter there you can easily change the language
[19:56] <penlats> How do you import an Openvpn config file into Network Manager
[19:56] <poshisfat> what does this mean 'To install pysoulseek from the source tree run the following:
[19:56] <poshisfat> python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>
[19:56] <poshisfat> '
[19:56] <tuxlon> mipo: and for the console with dpgk-reconfigure locales
[19:56] <poshisfat> where do i type this?...terminal?
[19:57] <DannyButterman> usr13: yes, I wish sometimes there could a little less magic in computer science :s
[19:57] <thrillERboy> Hi, I cannot uninstall anything from Ubuntu. I get this error everytime :( http://pastebin.com/bF53xxgB
[19:58]  * PythonSnake is away: Gone away for now
[19:58] <Pici> PythonSnake: disable that.
[19:58] <civixier> maybe if i create a panel key and leave it empty...
[19:58] <Pici> !away > PythonSnake
[19:58]  * PythonSnake is back.
[19:58] <BBop> Plop
[19:58] <BBop> Est-ce que quelqu'un connaîtrait Ekiga ?
[19:59] <Pici> !fr | BBop
[19:59] <BBop> Et m'expliquerait pourquoi mon inscription ne marche pas
[19:59] <BBop> le message : "l'inscription a échoué"
[19:59] <PythonSnake> Pici: It was automatic. Sorry.
[19:59] <BBop> Ok sorry, :)
[19:59] <mneptok> BBop: Anglais seulement ici, STP.
[19:59] <PythonSnake> Salut BBop
[20:00] <usr13> thrillERboy: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:00] <chris_99> hi, is there anyway to stop ubuntu moving the selected window to the next workspace
[20:00] <peepsalot> how does commercial software get listed in ubuntu software center?  is there some application process or a contact to get software in there?
[20:00] <Slart> chris_99: you mean if you drag it to an edge?
[20:00] <usr13> thrillERboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1641387.html
[20:01] <chris_99> Slart, i mean whenever i change workspace
[20:01] <DannyButterman> usr13: by the way, how can I set up the client vpn so that I can reach www.google.com and a distant network like 192.168.0.x ?
[20:01] <Pici> peepsalot: See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/programme
[20:01] <jpds> peepsalot: http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/isv-services
[20:01] <Slart> chris_99: oh.. then I don't really know.. it doesn't do that for me
[20:01] <usr13> !nonfree | peepsalot
[20:02] <Grav> can anyone help me with sed for removing text between <!--[if gte mso 9]>  and <![endif]-->  with those tags?
[20:02] <chris_99> this is on ubuntu 11, seems to have just started doing it
[20:02] <peepsalot> usr13, i know what nonfree is, and i didn't ask you
[20:03] <jpds> peepsalot: https://forms.canonical.com/partners/
[20:03] <Slart> chris_99: I'm running 11.04 on my laptop and I haven't seen that behaviour there either
[20:03] <thrillERboy> thanks usr13 -f is for force install??
[20:03] <usr13> peepsalot: See Enabling Multiverse Repository https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[20:04] <chris_99> i'm really confused why its doing it, as 'only on this workspace'
[20:04] <chris_99> is selected
[20:04] <jpds> usr13: That's not what he wants.
[20:04] <peepsalot> thanks Pici, jpds
[20:04] <mipo> tuxlon : yes, that's worked! Thank you
[20:04] <usr13> jpds: peepsalot Ok. sorry.
[20:06] <usr13> chris_99: Do you know what "workspace" means?
[20:06] <usr13> chris_99: You porbably have at least 2 workspaces.  You can have a GUI window showing on one or more workspaces.
[20:06] <chris_99> usr13, i hope so
[20:07] <chris_99> yeah, what i don't want is the currently selected application
[20:07] <chris_99> to move to the next workspace
[20:07] <mranima> is there a PPA for gnome 3 for ubuntu 10.10?
[20:07] <usr13> chris_99: To move to the next workspace is what it says.  If it is on workspace1 and you move to next workspace, it will go to workspace2
[20:07] <chris_99> it never used to do that
[20:08] <Polah> mranima: Yes, but it's unsupported and may not work very well.
[20:08] <chris_99> is there no way to stop it from doing that, usr13
[20:08] <usr13> chris_99: Well, it is just an option.  You don't have to use it.
[20:08] <mranima> polah: is it the testing one? right.
[20:08] <chris_99> what i'm saying is, it always moves that window usr13
[20:08] <jpds> peepsalot: Welcome.
[20:08] <chris_99> there doesn't seem to be an option to stop it
[20:08] <chris_99> from doing that
[20:09] <usr13> chris_99: Well, I don't know about that. Sorry.
[20:10] <usr13> chris_99: I suppose if you were using workspace2 during your last session, you'll start out on workspace2 on next one.
[20:10] <danharibo> hi
[20:10] <danharibo> I'm trying to instal mongodb, but aptitude wants to install a whole load of unrelated packages
[20:10] <chris_99> thats not the issue though, usr13, its the fact the selected application is moving with me, when i move workspace
[20:10] <danharibo> like parts of X11 and gtk
[20:10] <usr13> chris_99: But does it really matter?  (Does it matter which workspace you use for any particular GUI application?)
[20:11] <chris_99> yes, its very annoying
[20:11] <aiwe> #ubuntu-lt
[20:11] <usr13> chris_99: Then just use one workspace
[20:11] <jpds> chris_99: Try asking in #ayatana, that's where the developers are.
[20:11] <chris_99> i need to use many workspaces though
[20:11] <mranima> how many?
[20:11] <mranima> sheesh.
[20:12] <jpds> mranima: I use 9.
[20:12] <chris_99> 4 at least mranima
[20:12] <chris_99> thanks jpds
[20:12] <chris_99> will try that
[20:12] <mranima> i only use 2.
[20:12] <usr13> jpds: I use 1.  I have 2 enabled but rarely use second one.
[20:12] <mranima> same usr13
[20:12] <jpds> One for IRC, one for Firefox, one for Thunderbird, and the rest for whatever.
[20:13] <noaki> hi, my keyboard layout always switches back to us, but i want the german one. i deinstalled the us, but after every reboot it is back again :Q also i only have the german system locale
[20:13] <usr13> I almost always use Alt-Tab to switch between GUI windows.
[20:14] <TannerH> i installed ubuntu 10 but when i tried to start it i got a _ blinking in the top right corner of my screen. i have had this happen before and i have fixed it before but i dont remember how
[20:15] <DasEi> noaki: sudo dpgk-reconfigure console-setup
[20:17] <brylie> TannerH, see if this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484694
[20:18] <noaki> DasEi thx i try to reboot and see if it worked
[20:18] <Soothsayer> asd
[20:20] <Soothsayer> I got disconnected earlier.
[20:20] <Soothsayer> Is it recommended that I make my swap partition on the a hard drive that does not run the operating system?
[20:20] <Soothsayer> in my case, I have two hard disks sd0 (OS) and s1( mounts /var and /home )
[20:20] <Soothsayer> sda and sdb* i meant
[20:20] <guntbert> !enter | Soothsayer
[20:21] <Slek> NickServ identify poephooft
[20:21] <Slek> ouch
[20:21] <sindile> wired network is greyed even though i am on a network
[20:21] <guntbert> Soothsayer: in my opinion it doesn't matter on what disk you create it
[20:21] <Dbl_Tap> slek: lol
[20:21] <Kog|Work> Slek: don't worry, only 1500 people know it...
[20:22] <Slek> Yea
[20:22] <Soothsayer> excuse that.
[20:22] <Dynamit> http://pastebin.com/Y6gGzr4F but when try install virtualmin base i get http://pastebin.com/vv1b0RNL
[20:24] <Slek> And how do I change my password?
[20:25] <TannerH> brylie, no matter what i do i can not get the grub menu to be pulled up. the only os i have on my machine is linux but pressing shift during boot has not brought up anything.
[20:25] <guntbert> Slek: /msg nickserv help set passord
[20:25] <Slek> guntbert: Thx
[20:25] <guntbert> *password
[20:25] <Kog|Work> TannerH: you perchance having an issue with Ubuntu providing a blank screen after boot?
[20:26] <pythonirc101> I created a /dev/md1 -- raid 0 -- 4 drives...when i rebooted, it showed me a warning and now it mounted it on /dev/md127 instead of /dev/md1 -- anyone knows what i'm doing wrong and how to fix this?
[20:26] <TannerH> yes i do.
[20:26] <pythonirc101> if i now reboot, it mounts automatically on /dev/md127 instead of /dev/md1
[20:26] <guntbert> Slek: you're welcome :-) next time better identify in a private window with nickserv - or still better configure your client to do it automatically
[20:26] <ikonia> pythonirc101: is this your root file system ?
[20:26] <Kog|Work> TannerH: ah, me too... very annoying
[20:26] <pythonirc101> ikonia: nope
[20:26] <ikonia> pythonirc101: have you configured it in the mdadm.conf ?
[20:26] <Kog|Work> Slek: you can get your client to pass your nick/pass as part of the connection... you should do that
[20:27] <Finw3> Hi, will be possible to make a gnome classic desktop installation in future releases of ubuntu for people that don't like Unity?
[20:27] <ikonia> Finw3: it's being removed
[20:27] <pythonirc101> ikonia: I did ... used mkconf output in mdadm.conf
[20:27] <Slek> ok
[20:27] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I don't know what mkconf does, manually look at /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf check if it looks sane
[20:27] <Slek> Kog|Work: I'll look it up
[20:27] <Finw3> ikonia thank you. I know but I mean some way to make a manual installation of gnome classic
[20:27] <[THC]AcidRain> i am not understanding at all why cron is not working properly...
[20:27] <Kog|Work> TannerH: so far I've been messing with /etc/default/grub, but I don't seem to have any progress... what's even more strange is I can't grab a TTY via ctl+alt+f1
[20:28] <[THC]AcidRain> * * * * * php -q /var/www/AcidShower/420/420ToCell.php
[20:28] <[THC]AcidRain> this is my cron job
[20:28] <ikonia> Finw3: depends if there is a package available in the repos
[20:28] <[THC]AcidRain> is there something wrong with that?
[20:28] <pythonirc101> ikonia: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/423940/
[20:28] <pythonirc101> These are the definitions i had
[20:28] <Kog|Work> [THC]AcidRain: uh, yeah...
[20:28] <Finw3> ikonia ok, thank you
[20:28] <skutr34> i heard that Ubuntu 11.04 had a lot of problems..... can anyone confirm this?
[20:28] <guntbert> [THC]AcidRain: put the full path to php in there
[20:28] <dom_> whats the easiest way to run a bash script every time you login
[20:28] <Kog|Work> [THC]AcidRain: you might try writing a valid cron expression
[20:28] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I don't need to see it, I asked if it looks sane for your config
[20:28] <Soothsayer> I created a swapspace partition using gedit but in /etc/fstab, there is no entry for it ?
[20:28] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[20:29] <pythonirc101> it still goes automatically to /dev/md127 -- but i do remember entering /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 instead of /dev/md/0 -- is taht sane?
[20:29] <Kog|Work> guntbert: or the * * * * *...
[20:29] <[THC]AcidRain> the full path? cron documentation said i didnt have to
[20:29] <[THC]AcidRain> but ill try it
[20:29] <pythonirc101> ikonia: except for that, it does look ok
[20:29] <okokok> bleh openvpn starts twice on ubuntu server 10.04 i can't figure out why; killing the two, and starting via init results in only one running
[20:29] <ikonia> pythonirc101: no, that won't be sane
[20:29] <ikonia> pythonirc101: if you look at that config it looks like it's creating /dev/md/1
[20:29] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: the manpage for php leads me to believe  that you need php -f -q /path/to/file
[20:29] <Kog|Work> [THC]AcidRain: you might also read syslog
[20:30] <TannerH> Kog|Work: i dont have alot of linux experience with linux so i have no idea what that is. i have had it boot up perfect once or twice on different installs but i also have a graphics card that is unsupported out of the box.  that doesnt help much
[20:30] <pythonirc101> ikonia: then why is it that in my /etc/fstab, I've to refer to /dev/md127 and mount it at /raid1
[20:30] <guntbert> Kog|Work: I was wrong anyway :-/
[20:30] <Kog|Work> TannerH: I have experience with linux, but I haven't a clue what would cause you not to get a TTY
[20:30] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yeah, but what the hell would * * * * * evaluate to heh
[20:30] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I don't know why it's in your fstab, just remove it if it's wrong
[20:30] <pythonirc101> ikonia: for the other raid, i can just do : /dev/md0 -- mount it on /raid0 -- no problems there
[20:30] <Pici> Kog|Work: That runs every minute
[20:30] <guntbert> Kog|Work: every minute, all the time ?
[20:30] <Kog|Work> Pici: interesting
[20:31] <Kog|Work> Pici: fair enough, my dumb mistake
[20:31] <TannerH> Kog|Work: and neither do i which is probably part of the problem...
[20:31] <pythonirc101> ikonia: if i try /dev/md1 - /raid1, it doesnt detect it and the raid is invisible...it automatically creates /dev/md127!?
[20:32] <Battlepope> I am trying to use some of the texlive-fonts-extra fonts in latex, but i am getting a file not find error: '! LaTeX Error: File `emerald.sty' not found.'
[20:32] <Kog|Work> TannerH: so all of the stuff I could find via google suggested modifying /etc/default/grub and changing what it passes as the options
[20:32] <ikonia> pythonirc101: possible because your raid config is not sane, so it's creating a meta device (127) out of what it thinks is correct, look at the blkid's does it match up to whats in the mdadm.conf
[20:32] <Kog|Work> TannerH: then running update-grub and rebooting ... (which I obviously am doing over SSH)
[20:32] <pythonirc101> ikonia: ok this time i didnt mount /dev/md127 and rebooted have an error lemme read it to you
[20:32] <Kog|Work> TannerH: but seriously weird, how the hell can it not give you a TTY on ctl+alt+f1...
[20:33] <pythonirc101> ikonia: the disk drive for /dev/ssd is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip
[20:33] <pythonirc101> this is fsck
[20:33] <Battlepope> any ideas regarding the mystery of the missing font gentlemen?
[20:33] <TannerH> Kog|Work: it may be a stupid question but what is a TTY?
[20:34] <tom719co> hello
[20:34] <tom719co> i am trying to update with apt-get on a ubuntu 9.04 box
[20:34] <Kog|Work> TannerH: you're supposed to be running 6 virtual teleterms you can hit from f1->f6
[20:34] <ikonia> pythonirc101: that device is missing - but not important at this moment. Does the block id of the 127 meta device , match the block id of the device in the mdadm.conf
[20:34] <Kog|Work> TannerH: f7 will shunt you back to X
[20:35] <tom719co> and i had to change the links to "old-releases" because "archives" woudln't work
[20:35] <tom719co> but still having a lot of trouble with it
[20:35] <slek> Kog|Work, lucky it was the wrong password
[20:35] <tom719co> does anyone have a working sources.list file or know where I can find one for ubuntu 9.04?
[20:35] <ikonia> tom719co: 9.04 is dead - so no config is working
[20:36] <ikonia> tom719co: take up to 10.04
[20:36] <tom719co> k not sure if i can do that atm.. no way to work around it?
[20:36] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici: i have the full path, which is what was written down before
[20:36] <ikonia> tom719co: why can't you do that ?
[20:36] <tom719co> i'm just trying to install webmin but dependancies are failing
[20:36] <[THC]AcidRain> i added the -f
[20:36] <[THC]AcidRain> but i thought that was only for 'more information'
[20:36] <TannerH> Kog|Work:  okay. it may be that i have a bad install or something?? i can reinstall off another source and see if it fixes
[20:36] <ikonia> tom719co: webmin is not in the ubuntu repos or supported, so you've messed up your sources.list and possibly your system with 3rd party software
[20:37] <Kog|Work> TannerH: honestly, I don't know... I was considering upgrading the box to 10.04
[20:37] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: Thats not what the manpage says.
[20:37] <Kog|Work> TannerH: erm, 11
[20:37] <[THC]AcidRain> grrr let me check it out again
[20:37] <tom719co> i know.. i added their respositories.. but there are dependancy problems
[20:37] <tom719co> also tried the dpkg method
[20:37] <ikonia> tom719co: yes, because it's "not supported"
[20:37] <Kog|Work> TannerH: I'm not so sure what the root cause is yet - and I've never encountered this on any of the Ubuntu installs I've had
[20:37] <Kog|Work> apparently it's quite common though
[20:38] <tom719co> ok thanks
[20:38] <TannerH> Kog|Work:  i have tried that but i got the longest list of errors i have ever seen. it went on for over 10 minutes before stopping
[20:38] <TannerH> Kog|Work:  installing 11 i mean
[20:38] <Kog|Work> haha, awesome
[20:38] <Kog|Work> TannerH: I'm sure someone in here actually knows the answer... like I said it seems to be a fairly common occurance
[20:39] <dravekx> 11.04 is weird
[20:39] <Kog|Work> TannerH: I know my hardware is supported because it was displaying gnome yesterday
[20:39] <Kog|Work> TannerH: (it's a work computer... my second day using it) - guessing some sort of update was run
[20:39] <pythonirc101> ikonia: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/423952/ -- is that the problem?
[20:39] <pythonirc101> are these the uuid's from /dev/disk/by-uuid i should put in mdaadm.conf?
[20:40] <TannerH> Kog|Work: yes i have been given several different answers none of them seem to work. im using a dell 1537 and one of my freinds has put it on his using the same exact machine but i dont know what it is
[20:40] <JoshOvki> yay finally got my name back
[20:40] <ikonia> pythonirc101: look at the output - the device you created as md1 no longer exists, the blockid is missing, which suggests something has changed (disk size/partition/missing disk/etc)
[20:40] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici: * * * * * php -f -q /var/www/AcidShower/420/420ToCell.php this is currently what i have. it appears its still not running
[20:40] <[THC]AcidRain> let me check the logs
[20:40] <Kog|Work> TannerH: is he fairly adept?
[20:40] <Kog|Work> [THC]AcidRain: syslog is your friend
[20:41] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: What if you run that command manually? Does it work?
[20:41] <pythonirc101> ikonia: when i boot, fsck tells me that /dev/sdd is missing, but fdisk -l tells me that /dev/sdd is there
[20:41] <pythonirc101> i'm confused what is missing
[20:41] <TannerH> Kog|Work: yes but he is unfortunately not in the same country as me anymore.
[20:41] <Kog|Work> TannerH: and that's what skype is for
[20:41] <ikonia> pythonirc101: stop doing fsck - that's not going to magically change anything
[20:41] <brahmana> Hi all
[20:41] <pythonirc101> ikonia: i don't -- ubuntu does it automatically when i reboot
[20:41] <brahmana> Is there a way to find out if a particular group already exists?
[20:41] <[THC]AcidRain> how exactlly do i run this command manually?
[20:42] <pythonirc101> ikonia: how can i figure out what is going wrong?
[20:42] <ikonia> pythonirc101: listen to what I'm saying, you've built an array called md1 - you've put that devices id into mdadm.conf - that device has changed, you need to find out what has changed or re-create the array
[20:42] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: Open a terminal and type it there.
[20:42] <[THC]AcidRain> and im looking at the logs.... no cron
[20:42] <ikonia> pythonirc101: the problem you have is you've made raid0 so the slightest change will corrupt the array's id
[20:42] <[THC]AcidRain> when i ran that manually i get: bash: Android_Development: command not found
[20:42] <TannerH> Kog|Work: yes it is. he is doing some research on why my machine is so special but he said it will probably take a while
[20:42] <brahmana> Basically a command similar to *id* - which can tell me if a user group exists.
[20:42] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: so... what did you expect it to do?
[20:42] <ikonia> brahmana: id will do that
[20:42] <pythonirc101> ikonia: can i do mdadm --assemble?
[20:43] <llutz> brahmana: getent groups
[20:43] <ikonia> pythonirc101: if you want to
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> well.... i kinda expected it to execute the php code...
[20:43] <Pici> brahmana: getent groups $groupname
[20:43] <llutz> brahmana: getent group
[20:43] <pythonirc101> ikonia: the funny part is that the /dev/md127 works perfectly!
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> what does android development have anything to do with what im doing is my next question
[20:43] <ikonia> pythonirc101: that is possible, it depends on what's change
[20:43] <ikonia> changed
[20:43] <genii-around> pythonirc101: posts 6 onwards at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1764861 might be relevant for your situation
[20:43]  * brahmana looks up the manpage for getent
[20:44] <brahmana> thank you llutz and Pici
[20:44] <ikonia> pythonirc101: examine the 127 array, see if it's as you expect in terms of disk layout and config
[20:44] <Kog|Work> TannerH: yeah, honestly I don't know enough about what's going on to even help myself
[20:44] <TannerH> Kog|Work: i am actually trying to liveboot 11 right now but it just stays on the purple screen with the 4 dots and does nothing for a while and then gives me a ton of errors
[20:44] <[THC]AcidRain> well i found syslog
[20:44] <Kog|Work> TannerH: but the symptoms I see seem to be that it hits grub, displays the Ubuntu splash screen and then bam... blank screen
[20:45] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: I don't know what android has to do with that, but I don't know what that file is, or why you'd want to run it in your crontab.
[20:45] <Kog|Work> TannerH: oh, nevermind then... thought you were getting a blank screen heh
[20:45] <[THC]AcidRain> its a file that will send information to cell phones locally. its a personal thing that a small business is wanting to do
[20:46] <[THC]AcidRain> it will just send the numbers over
[20:46] <Soothsayer> I created a swap partition
[20:46] <TannerH> Kog|Work: the errors on 11 remind me of the matrix... but i am getting black screen on anything i install. but liveboot works fine on 10
[20:46] <Soothsayer> but it does not appear in my /etc/fstab file
[20:46] <Soothsayer> do I have to manually add it there?
[20:46] <Kog|Work> TannerH: heh
[20:46] <ikonia> Soothsayer: yes
[20:46] <ikonia> Soothsayer: fstab is not automatic
[20:46] <brahmana> ikonia: How would id help me determine if a given group exists or not?
[20:46] <teja> hey guys
[20:47] <ikonia> brahmana: sorry, I thought you where asking if a user belonged to a group
[20:47] <Soothsayer> ikonia, I just separate the columns with spaces (any number) right?
[20:47] <Pici> brahmana: getent will tell you that, check for the return code after you run it
[20:47] <brahmana> ikonia: Ok. :)
[20:47] <[THC]AcidRain> Jun 29 07:35:41 acidrain-desktop anacron[18043]: Job `cron.daily' terminated
[20:47] <ikonia> Soothsayer: yes, use what's there as an example
[20:47] <brahmana> Pici: Yup. Just read the manpage. It is precisely what I want. Thanks again
[20:47] <Pici> brahmana: getent group doesntexist ; echo $?
[20:48] <ubuntu_noob> can anybody help me regarding python?. im still a noob and my questions are so easy
[20:48] <brahmana> Got it.. :)
[20:48] <TannerH> Kog|Work: really fast i want to know if i am trying to get to grub right. i turn on machine and the press shift madly and then get the black screen with blinking cursor
[20:48] <pythonirc101> genii-around: that link was the solution to my problem!
[20:48] <Pici> ubuntu_noob: For programming, you'll want to ask in #python .  You'll need to be registered and identified to join though.
[20:48] <Pici> !register | ubuntu_noob
[20:48] <pythonirc101> ikonia: sudo update-initramfs -u -> This is what fixed it!
[20:48] <Kog|Work> TannerH: honestly, I prefer lilo
[20:48] <pythonirc101> how am i supposed to guess this!
[20:48] <Kog|Work> TannerH: because GRUB is such an annoying pain in the ass
[20:49] <ikonia> pythonirc101: does the block id now match up ?
[20:49] <guntbert> !language | Kog|Work
[20:49] <pythonirc101> ikonia: it does show md0 and md1
[20:49] <Kog|Work> guntbert: I don't really see how that qualifies as un family-friendly, impolite or unprofessional
[20:49] <pythonirc101> ikonia: but the numbers in the uuid are different than the ones in mdaadm.conf
[20:49] <ikonia> pythonirc101: no - please listen to the questions I'm asking and answer them rather than making up your own question
[20:49] <Kog|Work> guntbert: unless you work/live/breathe in the vatican or KSA
[20:49] <ikonia> pythonirc101: where is the mdadm.conf file
[20:49] <pythonirc101> ikonia: what is a block id and how do i get it?
[20:50] <Soothsayer> This is the example format given, # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:50] <Soothsayer> UUID=17c371ff-b12c-43a4-93e7-9072d347d36f none swap sw 0 0
[20:50] <TannerH> Kog|Work: would there be a way for me to get lilo without being able to boot?
[20:50] <Soothsayer> and that is my line, is it correct?
[20:50] <pythonirc101> ikonia: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[20:50] <ubuntu_noob> !register
[20:50] <Kog|Work> TannerH: erm, no, you're not going to be using lilo... you're using grub
[20:50] <ubuntu_noob> !register
[20:50] <ikonia> pythonirc101: ok - so if you do "sudo blkid" you need to see if those blkid's match what's in the config
[20:50] <ubuntu_noob> lol :)
[20:50] <Kog|Work> TannerH: I just mentioned it because I don't really ever use GRUB if I can avoid it, so I'm probably the wrong guy to ask
[20:50] <Kog|Work> holding shift should bring up the menu, even in "quiet" mode
[20:51] <guntbert> !guidelines | Kog|Work  look for "Language and Subject"
[20:52] <shockrates> hey
[20:52] <TannerH> Kog|Work: oh. well it still doesnt work so im just going to keep sifting through infromation off google until i find something helpful
[20:52] <shockrates> i want to upgrade just one package (kmess) to that in the next ubuntu. how do i do it?
[20:52] <ikonia> shockrates: you don't do that
[20:52] <pythonirc101> ikonia: the blkid command gives me the same output as the ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid output, but that does not match the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf UUIDs of /dev/md?
[20:52] <Kog|Work> guntbert: no thanks
[20:52] <ikonia> pythonirc101: ok, so your config is no longer sane
[20:52] <richardjprice> hello, is it possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows 7, if i install windows after ubuntu
[20:53] <ikonia> richardjprice: sure
[20:53] <pythonirc101> ikonia: how do i make it sane?
[20:53] <Kog|Work> guntbert: I used to argue with lilo about the stupidity of censorship daily
[20:53] <ikonia> pythonirc101: you need to find out why the block id has changed
[20:53] <Kog|Work> guntbert: nothing new
[20:53] <DannyButterman> Kog|Work: yep this emphasis on bad words is annoying at best ridiculous at worst. you're not alone...
[20:53] <guntbert> Kog|Work: lets drop it please
[20:53] <pythonirc101> ikonia: what does /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf do? It outputs the uuid's that are there in my mdadm.conf file
[20:54] <Kog|Work> guntbert: fine be me, you're the one linking me things ;)
[20:54] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I have no idea, I've never used that command
[20:54] <Kog|Work> DannyButterman: yeah... you never win that argument ;)
[20:54] <pythonirc101> is there anyone who understanda mdadm/mkconf here by any chance?
[20:54] <Kog|Work> guntbert: on the other hand, if you know why on earth I'm in runlevel3 and I can't grab a TTY that'd be good to know
[20:54] <ikonia> Kog|Work: you're not at run level 3
[20:55] <Kog|Work> ikonia: 4?
[20:55] <ikonia> Kog|Work: run level 3 is no longer used on ubuntu machines
[20:55] <Kog|Work> oh
[20:55] <shockrates> ikonia: ok the thing is the version of kmess in 11.04 doesnt work. i need to get the next one in ubuntu oneiric
[20:55] <Slart> !runlevels
[20:55] <ikonia> Kog|Work: no, you're at run level 2
[20:55] <Kog|Work> ikonia: wow, awesome.. ok, well I can ssh to the machine, but not grab a tty
[20:55] <pythonirc101> ikonia: as far as i understand the output of mkconf's uuid should match the uuid in mdadm.conf
[20:55] <Kog|Work> Slart: ah, thanks
[20:55] <ikonia> shockrates: then upgrade to the OS you need
[20:55] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I'm sure it should, but I don't use that command so don't know
[20:55] <shockrates> ikonia: i dont get what you mean
[20:55] <guntbert> Kog|Work: the machine is remote?
[20:55] <cmnajs> Hi, I am unable to boot windows 7 after installing ubuntu 11.04, can I get help
[20:56] <Kog|Work> guntbert: naw, physically sitting next to me
[20:56] <Krabbe> sorry for any incovience regarding nick change spam, BNC had to be restarted. Some BUG I guess.
[20:56] <ikonia> shockrates: if you need to use a package that's in the next version of ubuntu - you need to upgrade your ubuntu version to the correct version
[20:56] <shockrates> ikonia: i told you in need the version of that package in oneiric ubuntu (the dev-next version)\\
[20:56] <Pici> Krabbe: Thanks for fixing it.
[20:56] <Slart> cmnajs: you've installed ubuntu after windows 7?
[20:56] <Kog|Work> guntbert: new work machine that I moved into the new office... boots to a lovely blank screen, can't ctl+alt+fn for a tty
[20:56] <Krabbe> dunno what suddenly happened over there
[20:56] <Kog|Work> guntbert: very bizarre
[20:56] <ikonia> shockrates: you can't have that
[20:56] <guntbert> Kog|Work: ok, try to boot in into text only mode
[20:56] <Kog|Work> guntbert: nothing in the x logs or dmesg or syslog
[20:56] <cmnajs> Slart:yes
[20:56] <guntbert> !nox | Kog|Work
[20:57] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yes, but how on earth would I not be able to grab a TTY
[20:57] <Slart> cmnajs: and there's nothing in the grub menu when you reboot? or you don't get a menu at all?
[20:57] <guntbert> Kog|Work: thats what I want to test
[20:57] <Kog|Work> guntbert: it's 10.04.2 LTS, if it matters... and it looks like grub/plymouth were just installed yesterday
[20:57] <Kog|Work> guntbert: musta been the systems guy
[20:58] <Soothsayer> in my /etc/default/'grub' file, what does GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" vga=792" mean ?
[20:58] <cmnajs> Slart: i get Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[20:58] <Slart> cmnajs: ok, and that doesn't work?
[20:58] <cmnajs> Slart: yes
[20:58] <guntbert> Kog|Work: so try what I suggested please, then you should have a terminal and be able to investigate further
[20:58] <Kog|Work> yeah, working on it
[20:58] <shockrates> !skype
[20:59] <Slart> cmnajs: was that a "yes, it works" or "yes, it doesn't work" ? =)
[20:59] <Soothsayer> presently it is that and I'm expected to change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=41e86209-3802-424b-9a9d-d7683142dab7" for hibernation to work.  Will removing the vga=792 affect anything ?
[20:59] <Kog|Work> guntbert: like I said, I can ssh to the mahine just fine heh
[20:59] <cmnajs> Slart: it does not work
[20:59] <Slart> cmnajs: any error messages? or just a blank screen?
[20:59] <ikonia> shockrates: it's a display line
[20:59] <cmnajs> Slart: just blank screen
[20:59] <guntbert> Kog|Work: my idea was that you have a problem with the video drivers
[21:00] <bsg_kwolf> I'm trying to make a repo accessible over http that I created with dpkg-scanpackages.  What's the correct format for adding that to sources.list?
[21:00] <bsg_kwolf> if that's possible.
[21:00] <bsg_kwolf> does there need to be a specific dir structure for it to be in sources as http:// and not file://?
[21:01] <Slart> cmnajs: hmm.. but ubuntu works?
[21:01] <cmnajs> Slart: yes ubuntu works fine
[21:01] <maco> bsg_kwolf: you'd need a webserver and then put it under the webserver's root directory (wherever you've configured that to be)
[21:01] <Pici> bsg_kwolf: Take a look at  man 5 sources.list
[21:02] <Slart> cmnajs: you haven't moved any hard drives around? changed boot order or such?
[21:02] <bsg_kwolf> I have it being served fine,but I'm getting an error when I do aptitude update.
[21:02] <cmnajs> Slart: no, everything in place and order
[21:02] <pgavin> anyone have any idea why my natty machine might be resuming immediately after suspending?
[21:02] <pythonirc101> ikonia: should i just hand edit mdadm.conf with the new uuids and then run update-initramfs -u?
[21:02] <bsg_kwolf> E: Malformed line 67 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[21:02] <pythonirc101> still cant find why that mismatch happens and how to fix  it -- /dev/disk/by-uuid mdadm.conf mismatch
[21:03] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I have no idea why you are running update-initramfs -u
[21:03] <Slart> cmnajs: odd.. never had grub fail to boot windows.. or rather.. it always manages to spit out some kind of error messages when it fails
[21:03] <shockrates> ikonia: i am gonna get kmess <IP_ADDRESS> source and compile it myself. just to inform you though kmess <IP_ADDRESS> that you have in ubuntu 11.04, doesnt work AT ALL because it cant connect to the ms server, which is fixed in the next version. Please do something for the ubuntu community, not me.
[21:03] <cmnajs> Slart: :(
[21:03] <pythonirc101> ikonia: what do you do when there is a mismatch between mdadm.conf and /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[21:03] <ikonia> shockrates: no need to
[21:03] <shockrates> ikonia: why not?
[21:04] <ikonia> pythonirc101: if you do "sudo mdadm --examine --scan" you should get a real time config that you can use to re-create your mdadm.conf
[21:04] <ikonia> shockrates: I don't need to do anything
[21:04] <shockrates> ikonia: upgrade the version you have in ubuntu 11.04. YOU DELIVER BROKEN SOFTWARE FOR GOTS SAKE
[21:04] <shockrates> GODS^
[21:04] <bsg_kwolf> Pici:  The tutorial I found had me at it to sources.list as "deb http://slam.backstoptest/local/ ." which is wrong, I believe.
[21:04] <ikonia> shockrates: "I" don't do anything
[21:04] <cmnajs> Slart: is there any error log maintained, that i can check
[21:04] <ikonia> shockrates: if there is a bug - log it and it will be addressed if possible,
[21:04] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  What is a better (prettier) way to send a message notification to a gnome workstation through ssh (other than xmessage)?
[21:04] <pythonirc101> ikonia: it gives me the same uuid's that are currently there in my mdadm.conf?
[21:04] <shockrates> ikonia: *you* suck mister
[21:04] <ikonia> shockrates: I am not responsible for ubuntu's software repos
[21:04] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[21:05] <ikonia> shockrates: if you believe there is a bug - log it
[21:05] <Kog|Work> shockrates: he's the reason we can't have nice things
[21:05] <ikonia> Kog|Work: stop it please.
[21:05] <Kog|Work> ikonia: touchy touchy... only meant to be a joke
[21:05] <diki> i'd like to ask how to increase the buffer size of the terminal in 11.04
[21:05] <chaddy> TheRedOctober: ytalk, gtalk and xphone
[21:05] <ikonia> pythonirc101: ok - so there is a problem  with your raid array
[21:05] <pythonirc101> ikonia: both of them?
[21:05] <ikonia> pythonirc101: you can either try to debug it, or rebuild your array/mdadm.conf
[21:05] <shockrates> ikonia: to be honest i dont care, i use mostly arch. i just wanted to inform ubuntu mainteners, i am not reporting any bug
[21:05] <ikonia> pythonirc101: are both of them different ?
[21:05] <shockrates> have a nice day
[21:06] <ikonia> shockrates: ok - byue
[21:06] <pythonirc101> ikonia: and both of them are different raid's (5 and 0) working ... wierd...
[21:06] <TheRedOctober> chaddy: not a messaging client, a message, notification...im guessing notify-send
[21:06] <Kog|Work> guntbert: sorry, it's really hard to catch the grub menu in silet mode
[21:06] <Pici> shockrates: you haven't informated any Ubuntu maintainers
[21:06] <Slart> cmnajs: not that I know of.. you're sure windows is still in sd**  (whatever the drive letters were in grub) ?
[21:06] <nerdshell> how to boot directly to a terminal, but only for on boot, not every time ?
[21:06] <Pici> shockrates: thats what the bug reporting system is for.
[21:06] <shockrates> Pici: are they on the irc?
[21:06] <pythonirc101> ikonia: i can reboot without any problems...work on them without any problems...just the uuids wont match
[21:06] <Kog|Work> guntbert: especailly when I can't see the POST heh
[21:06] <MoL0ToV> someone that can help me with software raid ?
[21:06] <shockrates> Pici: i am informing you know. i am not familiar with ubuntu bug reporting system
[21:06] <ikonia> pythonirc101: that's a pretty major issue, but it's up to you how you want to progress
[21:07] <Pici> shockrates: Its rather easy.
[21:07] <Pici> shockrates: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:07] <diki> i'd like to ask how to increase the buffer size of the terminal in 11.04
[21:07] <cmnajs> Slart: yes it is.. the situation is little complex, i got two drives
[21:07] <pythonirc101> ikonia: how do i rebuild the raid? --assemble? or --create?
[21:07] <ikonia> pythonirc101: assemble will re-assemble an existing array, -create will create a new array
[21:07] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yeah, that works as expected: get a TTY
[21:07] <Slart> cmnajs: and windows is still installed to the .. first partition on the first drive, right?
[21:08] <Kog|Work> guntbert: that doesn't surprise me, what surprises me is I can't get a term from GDMm or whatever is running
[21:08] <pythonirc101> ikonia: so i should try reassembling first?
[21:08] <Kog|Work> guntbert: or, that killing GDM has absolutely 0 effect heh
[21:08] <ikonia> pythonirc101: if it was me - I'd re-create it and get a sane config, your call though
[21:08] <cmnajs> Slart: I installed windows xp at sda1 and then installed windows 7 on sdb1 whos loader override xp's loader at sda1
[21:08] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yup, and as soon as I startx I'm back to exactly the same spot... but again, nothing in the Xorg logs
[21:09] <pythonirc101> ikonia: can you tell me the commands i need to execute? help me with one of the  raids (raid 0), and i'll do the other one myself?
[21:09] <ikonia> pythonirc101: I can't tell you the command as the config is specific to your system
[21:09] <nerdshell> how to boot directly to a terminal, but only for on boot, not every time ?
[21:09] <pythonirc101> its on /dev/sd[abcd] -- 40GB each -- /dev/md1
[21:09] <sindile> how do i enable wired network in 11.04
[21:09] <Slart> cmnajs: ahh.. that might be why grub is having problems.. try restarting the machine and when you're at the grub menu you edit the windows boot line (press 'e', I think) and make it boot to sdb1 instead.. perhaps that'll work
[21:09] <ikonia> pythonirc101: back shortly
[21:09] <pythonirc101> ikonia: this is what i used to create it the first time -- mdadm --verbose --create /dev/md1 --level raid0 --raid-devices 4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd
[21:09] <adnc> hello, I'm looking for an application which I can use to construct some woodwork. specially giving measures  would be interesting for me.
[21:10] <adnc> is there something for ubuntu?
[21:10] <Slart> cmnajs: note that I'm basically guessing now.. I've never had a situation like yours
[21:10] <cmnajs> Slart: i tried that .. but no luck
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> !text > nerdshell
[21:10] <Kog|Work> adnc: is there a woodworking application for windows/osx?
[21:10] <Kog|Work> adnc: if so, I'd go google to see if there's a linux alternative
[21:11] <cmnajs> Slart: going to try it again... will get back
[21:11] <adnc> Kog|Work, not woodworking app. an app to construct!
[21:11] <Slart> cmnajs: do that
[21:11] <cmnajs> Slart: thanks for your help
[21:11] <MoL0ToV> someone here that can help me with software raid ? one disk is damaged and now the system don't boot
[21:11] <Slart> cmnajs: you're welcome
[21:11] <Kog|Work> adnc: whatever, the advice still applies
[21:12] <nerdshell> ZykoticK9: thanks :)
[21:12] <adnc> Kog|Work, good that you told me this. good advice is expensive
[21:12] <guntbert> Kog|Work: sorry, was away. I seem to remember some issue with certain graphic cards, but only faintly. Does /var/log/syslog have anything to say? or dmesg?
[21:12] <Kog|Work> guntbert: I didn't see anything
[21:13]  * diki will ask for the last time
[21:13] <diki> i'd like to ask how to increase the buffer size of the terminal in 11.04??
[21:13] <Kog|Work> guntbert: so, the machine was running X just fine yesterday, moved it into a nother room in the office... looking at the dpkg logs I see plymouth and grub were both updated yesterday
[21:14] <guntbert> Kog|Work: did you se http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html ?
[21:14] <Kog|Work> guntbert: did a fair amount of googling about it, and none of the suggestions seem to do anything beneficial... and I of course can't grab the old .list out of /boot/grub
[21:14] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yeah, tried that with /etc/default/grub
[21:15] <guntbert> Kog|Work: then I'm sorry to say I have no idea :-(
[21:15] <Kog|Work> guntbert: I think that the guy who had the box before me probably did something to get it running... I have to find him, and ask him
[21:16] <guntbert> Kog|Work: might be a sensible idea ... Good luck :-)
[21:16] <confoocious> Laptop overheats on Ubuntu (not so on Win7). The comparison is something like 40C (on Win) as to 60+ cotinuously on Ubuntu. I run suepr lightweight stuff (ratpoison, mutt, mcabber) excepting Firefox.
[21:16] <confoocious> Suggestions?
[21:16] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yeah... woulda done it already if he was easier to find. also, second week on the job heh
[21:17] <Jasonn> My comp fails to connect to a VPN, this is the error: Failed to connect to VPN connection "(null)" because the VPN service failed to start
[21:19] <bsg_kwolf>   I'm trying to host a couple packages in a local repo, and I'm having trouble adding the repo to sources.list (via http).  Apache is configured and serving up the files fine, but I'm not sure if I can do this over http w/o some type of structure in the directory.
[21:19] <bsg_kwolf>   I added to sources.list with "deb http://slam.backstoptest/local  /.", but I'm getting an error when when I run aptitude update of "E: Malformed line 67 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)"
[21:19] <bsg_kwolf>   Do I need a specific directory structure to host it over http?
[21:19] <FloodBot1> bsg_kwolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <Jasonn> bsg_kwolf: Dont you think this is more of a #ubuntu-server question?
[21:20] <cmnajs> Slart: no luck
[21:20] <Jasonn> My comp fails to connect to a VPN, this is the error: Failed to connect to VPN connection "(null)" because the VPN service failed to start
[21:21] <guntbert> !repeat | Jasonn
[21:21] <Slart> cmnajs: hmm.. not really sure where to go from here.. I suspect that your windows 7 install might need to boot from the windows xp boot area in some way.. perhaps grub can't handle that.. I just don't know what to try
[21:22] <io> !info network-manager-pptp
[21:22] <io> Jasonn: try that
[21:22] <cmnajs> Slart: i have the output of "Boot Info Script 0.60" can that help
[21:23] <Slart> cmnajs: I don't recognize that.. but why not.. can you pastebin it?
[21:24] <pythonirc101> how do i add a user to sudoers group -- commandline?
[21:25] <llutz> pythonirc101: sudo adduser youruser admin
[21:25] <cmnajs> Slart: dont know whats patebin? how to do it
[21:25] <Slart> !pastebin | cmnajs
[21:25] <Doff3n> how do you deploy a web project with git, any tips? I try using hooks in gitosis
[21:25] <io> Jasonn: did that help?
[21:25] <pythonirc101> llutz: thanks
[21:26] <llutz> pythonirc101: "youruser" needs to relogin after that
[21:26] <escott> Doff3n, depends on what your deployment process is, but i would say that deployment is somewhat distinct from committing. i would just have an external script you use to deploy and call that
[21:26] <pythonirc101> llutz: it worked, thanks
[21:27] <Wantstolearn> Hi.I have dual monitor, is there any way to att an "OFF" label in the monitor applet.Ubuntu 11.04
[21:27] <Wantstolearn> add
[21:27] <cmnajs> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635321/
[21:29] <escott> cmnajs, i would recommend installing grub to both sda and sdb. having different versions in the mbr could be confusing things
[21:30] <Doff3n> escott, thanks for your reply
[21:30] <cmnajs>  escott: how can i do that..
[21:30] <escott> follow the !grub instructions but do it twice once for /dev/sda and once for /dev/sdb
[21:31] <Kog|Work> guntbert: yeah... booting the last kernel also doesn't seem to help... awesome heh
[21:31] <escott> !grub | cmnajs
[21:31] <wildbat> cmnajs: your sda1 boot sector is overwritten with grub ~ you need to do bootsec  from windows CD to fix it
[21:31] <Wantstolearn> Anyone. :/
[21:32] <rawfodog> I installed a wifi manager for fluxbox. When I log into gnome classic that wifi manager by default is in the indicator. What file do I need to edit to make sure it doesnt appear on start u p
[21:32] <rawfodog> ?
[21:32] <Jasonn> io: It was already installed...
[21:32] <escott> cmnajs, the other thing that is strange is the first bit of the boot info summary. why is grub 1.99 using sda7 as the boot partition and grub 1.97 using sdb5.
[21:32] <Jasonn> io: Sorry, was afk for a min
[21:32] <aod> hi
[21:32] <wildbat> Wantstolearn:  your best bet is write the applet yourself ;p ~
[21:32] <io> Jasonn: ok, no idea then sorry :-)
[21:32] <Slart> cmnajs: well.. that was an impressive amount of information.. I still don't know how to fix it though, didn't see anything obvious in grub settings etc
[21:33] <Jasonn> io: thanks :)
[21:33] <Jasonn> io: What if the problem is server side?
[21:33] <Slart> cmnajs: but keep asking around and hand out that pastebin-link.. it was very good info. I'm sure someone cleverer than me will come around =)
[21:34] <io> Jasonn: is that the whole of the error message? there used to be another line below it
[21:34] <cmnajs> Slart: thanks, i got couple of inputs ..
[21:35] <io> Jasonn: is MPPE enabled?
[21:36] <cmnajs> Can I access chat log at any web url
[21:37] <io> !logs | cmnajs
[21:38] <sivang> hi all
[21:38] <sivang> has right click on ideapad been fixed?
[21:38] <sivang> (a kernel patch, actually)
[21:39] <Kartagis> hello
[21:39] <shire> hi
[21:40] <Kartagis> I have upgraded to 11.04 a while ago, and I can't view .avi files since. any ideas?
[21:40] <cmnajs> !grub | cmnajs
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> sivang: which model?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras   may help
[21:41] <shellclear> I'm having problems with the networkmanager pptp vpn connection, the vpn server and microsoft
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: or good bad and ugly gstreamer packages
[21:41] <io> shellclear: explain your problems
[21:42] <shellclear> I'm having trouble connecting to the PPTP VPN NetworkManager, VPN Server Microsoft
[21:42] <jpds> !repeat | shellclear
[21:42] <io> shellclear: when I said explain your problems, I meant "explain your problems" not repeat them
[21:42] <io> ie. error messages etc.
[21:42] <Kog|Work> hah, apparently copying the default xorg.conf worked... oh man, not so awesome
[21:45] <em> Does anyone have any medium-easy questions?
[21:46] <io> em: #ubuntu-meta is a good place to look for unanswered questions :-)
[21:49] <HydrogenWS> How do i remove trash from panel unity?
[21:49] <n20> Hello, a friend of mine has an http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?prodNameId=1839154&taskId=135&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=1839146 and I've gotten him to install wicd. He can't however *find* any wireless networks, leaving me thinking that his drivers need to be installed.
[21:49] <duckx0r> i just installed ubuntu 11.04. how do you view the open windows?
[21:50] <LjL> duckx0r: the panel on the left. open windows have a tick near them
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: you can enable the expose plugin
[21:51] <n20> He's using 11.04 :-)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: it shows all windows like in mac os
[21:51] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, I'm not familiar with mac os, unfortunately
[21:52] <duckx0r> LjL, it doesn't work for all windows. For example chromium.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: sorry, scale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHesPRMTTSg&feature=related
[21:52] <LjL> duckx0r: that sounds like a bug, it should work
[21:52] <TrueColors> When you install ubuntu after windows, it uses grub to boot, right?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip>  TrueColors yes
[21:52] <LjL> duckx0r: can you provide a screenshot with chromium visible but no icon for it in the panel? then you can append it to a bug report
[21:52] <duckx0r> LjL, It's a fresh install. Chromium is there, but clicking on it opens up a new window
[21:53] <okokok> duckx0r: that's not my experience currently
[21:53] <haxx0r> is it a bad practice to install multiple programs simultaneously  ?
[21:53] <LjL> duckx0r: oh it opens a new window, hmm. that's weird as what people usually complain about is the opposite, i.e. that they can't open new windows. i'm not using Unity at the moment, but maybe try right-clicking and see if there is an option to show
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> haxx0r: not at all
[21:53] <LjL> haxx0r: you simply can't, APT won't let you
[21:53] <TrueColors> Ok, basically ubuntu shows up first on the boot menu - I'm needing to show Windows 7 first.
[21:53] <haxx0r> im installing ruby gems .. and id like to install a few MYsql items along while i wait
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> haxx0r: you can install loads at once
[21:53] <TrueColors> I found instructions for windows xp but it sounded quite technical. So I need someone to noob talk to me through it.
[21:54] <TrueColors> I can't use Ubuntu exactly because it's not liking my belkin wireless adapter.
[21:54] <LjL> duckx0r: i can't receive DCC, please upload it to imageshack.us or your favorite image host
[21:54] <TrueColors> but later on, i will end up ethernet connecting, so it should be alright after that.
[21:54] <duckx0r> LjL, ok
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> TrueColors: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[21:55] <frank__> hi
[21:56] <duckx0r> LjL, http://img51.imageshack.us/i/screenshotvqv.png/
[21:56] <frank__> i installed kernel 2.6.39 on ubuntu 11.04, now my update manager wants to install kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:56] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: Perhaps you can help me...
[21:56] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: My comp fails to connect to a VPN, this is the error: Failed to connect to VPN connection "(null)" because the VPN service failed to start
[21:56] <frank__> anybody knows how to fix this?
[21:56] <LjL> duckx0r: well it doesn't show up as open. but it should. let me see if i can find an existing bug report about it, otherwise you should file one
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: I don't use vpn, sorry
[21:57] <penlats> Whats a good email client for exchange with calendar?
[21:57] <penlats> thats not zimbra desktop
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> frank__: let it install, should be fine
[21:57] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: But do you know why it thinks that the client is not started, when in fact it is, and it cant connect?
[21:58] <duckx0r> LjL, I clicked on the ubuntu logo, searched for chrome, then dragged it to the "panel" or whatever that thing is called now and clicked on it to open it.
[21:58] <frank__> ActionParsnip: Wouldnt it overwrite the newer kernel?
[21:58] <LjL> duckx0r: that sounds correct
[21:58] <duckx0r> oops, sorry for white space.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: check your logs. not sure otherwise
[21:58] <LjL> duckx0r: maybe you could just try removing it and doing it again, though
[21:58] <Jasonn> thanks :)
[21:58] <duckx0r> LjL, good idea
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> frank__: no, you can have multiple kernels installed. You probably have a tonne of kernels installed doing nothing and takig space
[21:59] <frank__> ActionParsnip: Ah thanks
[21:59] <duckx0r> LjL, lol, removed it. chromium is open and no icon is in the launcher
[21:59] <duckx0r> LjL, i closed chromium and reopened it too
[21:59] <LjL> duckx0r: close chromium, add the icon again, then launch chromium and see
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: if you kill chromium off then rerun it, is it ok then?
[22:00] <frank__> ActionParsnip: Im going to reboot now, wish me luck:P
[22:00] <LjL> duckx0r: i didn't seem to find an existing report on this by the way
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> frank__: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2
[22:00] <sivang> ActionParsnip: hmm the ST101 ?
[22:00] <sivang> ActionParsnip: makes sense?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> frank__: you can see the installed kernels, you can remove the old ones to get the space back
[22:00] <duckx0r> LjL, ActionParsnip let me try relogging
[22:00] <sivang> ActionParsnip: ST 10-3t
[22:00] <LjL> duckx0r: ok
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> sivang: let me search
[22:02] <TannerH> Kog|Work: you wouldnt happen to still be on would you?
[22:02] <sivang> ActionParsnip: sure, thanks
[22:02] <sivang> ActionParsnip: I just need to know right click has been fixed and I can install 11.04 on it
[22:03] <Truecolor> Ok, how do I change boot order again. I'm on mobile so can't use google or anything.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> sivang: add the boot option: acpi_sleep=nonvs     may help
[22:04] <stefan_> franTruecolor use the Startup manager
[22:04] <duckx0r> LjL, ActionParsnip it's working now. Must have been a computer fart.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> sivang: you may also want to add the boot option: nohpet
[22:04] <Truecolor> How do I get to that. I'm in ubuntu
[22:05] <Mathieu_Du_> anyone ?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: do you want windows to be the first option?
[22:05] <stefan_> Truecolor, it is in system administration Startup-manager
[22:06] <gbcvccvgg> .
[22:06] <stefan_> Or something like this. My Ubuntu is in German...
[22:06] <EDinNY> need to make audio CD from mp3's.  Brasero says it can't do it from an mp3...suggestions?
[22:07] <em> Truecolor: try: grep "menuentry" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:07] <em> Truecolor: does that give you a list of choices?
[22:07] <Mathieu_Du_> Hi sorry for this classical question,but I have a problem with an ubuntu 10.10, want to downgrade it to 10.04 and can't find a satisfying answer with google (one of the problems is that Internet is pretty erratic so it's quite difficult to search)
[22:08] <maco> Mathieu_Du_: reinstall
[22:08] <LjL> Mathieu_Du_: you can't, you need to reinstall
[22:08] <stefan_> EDiNY Sound Converter?
[22:08] <eoeas> Greetings everyone, my problem (Ubuntu 10.04): Every time I start Empathy, or get a notification from Empathy, my top gnome-panel freezes .. any ideas why?
[22:08] <Mathieu_Du_> OK tnx
[22:08] <EDinNY> stefan_: is there an easy one to use?  or which gstreamer can I install?
[22:08] <Truecolor> Sorry. I'm on mobile. Getting spam. There is no startup manager or whatever. Just startup disk creator
[22:08] <phlux> I've been using Arch for quite some time now, but recently I put Ubuntu on my wife's laptop, and despite all of my griping about it in the past, I actually like it. I migrated to Linux from FreeBSD several years ago, so I've always refrained from the "easier," distributions. Would it make me a traitor if I threw Ubuntu on our desktop as well? :P
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Mathieu_Du_: you will need to reinstall
[22:09] <Truecolor> Pm me to help, it'll be easier.
[22:09] <sivang> ActionParsnip: this will enable right click?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: do you want windows to be default in grub2?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> sivang: maybe
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> sivang: its easy to reverse
[22:09] <Corey> phlux: It's an OS, not a political movement.
[22:09] <Truecolor> Yeah. I want it to be first on boot menu.
[22:09] <sivang> ActionParsnip: I was sure it got fixed already
[22:10] <sivang> ActionParsnip: but how an acpi kernel arg would affect right click?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> sivang: not sure, hardware can be weird if its wired up in some dumb way
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/06_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: please address whom you are talking to, the room is busy and text gets lost
[22:11] <sivang> ActionParsnip: okay thanks
[22:12] <stefan_> EDiNY, you need soundconverter and.... gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[22:13] <EDinNY> stefan_: which program will actually do the burning and will it find the others?
[22:14] <codex84> how u add the theme
[22:14] <codex84> to usr/theme
[22:14] <codex84> in command prompt
[22:14] <Truecolor> Ok. It generates it, then says found windys 7- linux image, initrd image them memtest. @ whoever suggested sudo mv.
[22:15] <Truecolor> Should be done now, right?
[22:15] <em> that sounds pretty good
[22:15] <em> it was ActionParsnip who suggested sudo mv
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: the update grub applys the change
[22:15] <stefan_> EDinNY, soundconverter only converts. You can convert to waves
[22:15] <stefan_> Brasero should be able to handle these.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: the order is governed by the numbers at the beginning of the filename
[22:16] <Truecolor> So, restart and see, actionparsnip
[22:16] <stefan_> EDinNY, Do you have the normal mp3 Codecs installed?
[22:16] <em> Truecolor: starting with 0
[22:16] <EDinNY> stefan_: not sure.  what do I apt-get?
[22:16] <intlkleinblue> How do I set http://lpthw to point to a specific html file on my computer? Like how http://localhost points to /var/www/ ? I know I have to edit my /etc/hosts file but not sure after that.
[22:16] <Truecolor> 0? What for
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Truecolor: yes, reboot to test
[22:17] <em> Truecolor: oh never mind I thought you were looking at the menu list.
[22:17] <Truecolor> Ok lol, em
[22:17] <Truecolor> Nice, it worked. Thanks :)
[22:18] <Truecolor> Be back on in a sec
[22:18] <em> If all you wanted to do was make windows the default you could go: sudo grub-set-default X  where X is the number of the windows choice in the list, starting from 0
[22:19] <delinquentme> nom?
[22:19] <delinquentme> YAR!
[22:19] <edbian> om nom nom
[22:19] <stefan_> EDinNY: You have two choices 1) apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly (let brasero do all the stuff) or apt-get install soundconverter gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and convert first and burn the wave files
[22:19] <delinquentme> >_<
[22:19] <nixbox> hi all
[22:19] <em> Hello
[22:19] <stefan_> EDinNY, so with gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse brasero should be able to do it alone
[22:20] <edbian> hello
[22:20] <EDinNY> stefan_: thanks
[22:20] <nixbox> i have two monitors and want to do a vertical twin monitor configuration in ubuntu, how do i do that, i cannot find any option to rotate the display
[22:20] <em> Hi EDinNY
[22:20] <em> oops edbian
[22:20] <edgy> Hi, my page up key is not working, how can I solve this? even xev doesn't show any key code
[22:20] <edbian> ha
[22:20] <TrueColors> thanks actionparsnip.
[22:20] <Osmodivs> Hello. I do not even have any removable media in my PC, but my system detects some of them. How can I acces them? I can't acces them in the GUI, EOS_DIGITAL I can, but it has nothing, since there is no memory card in my PC, but wwhat about the others?  root@Djiin:/media# ls
[22:20] <Osmodivs> Ȕ  Data disc (12 May 11)  EOS_DIGITAL
[22:20] <Osmodivs> root@Djiin:/media# cd Data\ disc\ (12\ May\ 11)
[22:20] <Osmodivs> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[22:20] <TrueColors> I have another issue, uhm
[22:21] <TrueColors> Any idea how to get my Belkin F7D1102 weireless adapter to work? There are no linux drivers and it does't recognise the device.
[22:21] <TrueColors> put it this way, it can't find it.
[22:21] <edbian> TrueColors: does it show up in sudo lspci  ?
[22:21] <em> nixbox: what is your video card?
[22:21] <TrueColors> uh.
[22:21] <TrueColors> i got to restart again to boot in.
[22:22] <TrueColors> ill be back on my mobile.
[22:22] <edbian> TrueColors: wait
[22:22] <TrueColors> okay.
[22:22] <edbian> TrueColors: Can you get the target machine on LAN internet?
[22:22] <EDinNY> stefan_: works.  thanks
[22:22] <TrueColors> What do you mean?
[22:22] <stefan_> EDinNY nice
[22:22] <sam_> hi
[22:22] <em> hi sam
[22:23] <rxgod> argh, Natty is some frustrating stuff
[22:23] <edbian> TrueColors: The machine with the belkin dongle.  CAn you get it online using a wire?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> TrueColors: glad it worked dude :0
[22:23] <edbian> TrueColors: please use my name when talking to me :)
[22:23] <stefan_> EDinNY You are my first supported users
[22:23] <TrueColors> I'm not sure, I don't have a long enough cable ebdian, I'm guessing yes o.O
[22:23] <edbian> ActionParsnip: ?  His wifi isn't working/
[22:23] <Osmodivs> How can I acces this memory stick?  root@Djiin:/media# ls
[22:23] <Osmodivs> Ȕ  Data disc (12 May 11)  EOS_DIGITAL
[22:23] <Osmodivs> root@Djiin:/media# cd Data\ disc\ (12\ May\ 11)
[22:23] <Osmodivs> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[22:23] <stefan_> EDinNY -s
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> edbian: i was on about the boot order shizzle
[22:23] <rxgod> off to read more on the web
[22:24] <edbian> TrueColors: You should get that machine online using the wire.  Get on IRC on there on Ubuntu
[22:24] <edbian> ActionParsnip: oh :)
[22:24] <edbian> the shizzle
[22:24] <edbian> of course
[22:24] <rhin0> I think you have to change the directory after doing ls /media Osmodivs
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs:
[22:24] <TrueColors> that would be nice, uhm... I'll do that tomorrow. it's a little late here. It's apparentlyt 22:24 or 00:24 depending on if my mobile or windows is correct.
[22:24] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Yes?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: cd Data\ disc\ \(12\ May\ 11\)
[22:24] <edbian> TrueColors: :)
[22:24] <TrueColors> I'll be back here tomorrow edbian :)
[22:24] <edbian> TrueColors: ok
[22:25] <llutz> Osmodivs: cd "Data disc (12 May 11)"
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: you needed to escape the brackets too
[22:25] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Thank you
[22:25] <sam_> I want to know where is the x1186config  exactly located in ubuntu the latest version
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: easier just to press TAB
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: doesit all for you
[22:26] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, How do I unmount this folders?
[22:27] <Psydoll> oh gawd not ActionParsnip !
[22:27] <sam_>  I want to know where is the x1186config  exactly located in ubuntu the latest version
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: cd; sudo umount /media       then press TAB
[22:28] <sam_> no body knows?
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> sam_, x1186config - i think your a couple years too late.  Do you mean xorg.conf?  It's not there by default.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> sam_: try waiting more than 60 seconds for a reply
[22:28] <edbian> sam_: I think you're asking about etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:28] <sam_> yes
[22:29] <sam_> this is what i mean thanks
[22:29] <Psydoll> edbian: i would take his advice he knows what he is talking about!
[22:29] <em> what if he did sudo find / x1186*
[22:29] <edbian> Psydoll: :P
[22:29] <em> would that find it, if it existed?
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> sam_, it's not there by default - but you can create one.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> sam_: http://pastebin.com/JrSjmErY   it doesn't exist in a default install
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> em: see my pastebin ;)
[22:30] <sam_> many thanks man
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sam_: do you mean xorg.conf like edbian said?
[22:30] <sam_> yeb
[22:30] <em> ActionParsnip: kind of on the right track then.
[22:31] <em> What does the -inname do?
[22:31] <em> -iname
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> em, case insentive name search
[22:32] <em> okay
[22:32] <Osmodivs> I just do not know whatś wrong with my SONY usb Walkman. Ubuntu does not detect it
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> s/insentive/insensitive/
[22:33] <em> does sudo find . -iname   do the same thing as sudo find / -iname   if you hadn't already cd / ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> em: its like name but case (i)nsensitive
[22:33] <sivang> is there a way to install proper gnome instead of unity ?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> !classic | sivang
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> em: exactly,.   '.' means from pwd, I changed to /
[22:33] <yaaar> sivang: you can just choose the classic session type from the login screen
[22:33] <edbian> sivang: It already is installed.  log out, click your name, change the session to ubuntu classic, log in
[22:34] <em> ActionParsnip: okay cool so pretty much i had the right idea.
[22:34] <sivang> cool folks, thank yo
[22:35] <cet> Anyone here using natty with a Radeon HD 5860, and have -great- performance? I'm having serious trouble performance-wise, and proprietary drivers does not do the trick.. :( PM me please if you have a solution..
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> em: you were right on the money
[22:35] <duffo_> im trying to install a ubuntu live usb
[22:36] <duffo_> i cant get further than identify cdrom and mount part
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:36] <delinquentme> sooo my brand spanking new installation of ubuntu just froze ... what should i look to as the culprit ?
[22:36] <bazhang> duffo_, using unetbootin?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: how did you put the ISO on the USB stick?
[22:36] <duffo_> i used unetbootin
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: reboot and use memtest in grub2 to make sure the RAM is healthy
[22:37] <duffo_> im using usb why is does it want cdrom drivers
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[22:37] <aleprovencio> hello everyone, is there a command to access directly  the 'open with other application' dialog ?
[22:37] <duffo_> there was no md5
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | duffo_
[22:38] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, can that be run from the grub boot manager .. or do i need an additional disk?
[22:38] <duffo_> yeah but there was no md5 provided
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: its an option in grub. memtest is part of a default install
[22:38] <duffo_> its ubuntu 10.10 with xbmc compiled with vaapi enabled
[22:38] <Psydoll> can i ask why compiz is such a hard program to get working especially with the box feature?
[22:38] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Is there a way to see hidden files in the terminal?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | duffo_
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: la   instead of ls
[22:39] <vlt> Hello. Is there a lightweight tool to view an OpenOffice presentation?
[22:39] <duffo_> ActionParsnip: i didnt get it from ubuntu
[22:39] <duffo_> its a custom
[22:39] <yaaar> Osmodivs: ls -a
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: not sure how support works for custom ISOs
[22:40] <yaaar> Osmodivs: oh...or what ActionParsnip said...didn't see that, but it's an alias to the same thing
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> yaaar: ls -a    gets aliased to la in ~/.bashc ;)
[22:40] <yaaar> yeah, just didn't see you had said it
[22:40] <duffo_> ActionParsnip: i understand :)
[22:40] <cyperbg> guys I have 4 video cards. Can you tell me how the machine gives them numbers?
[22:41] <Psydoll> cyperbg: just open a terminal and type ls pci
[22:41] <sivang> is libraoffice open office?
[22:41] <v12> hi, i'm having trouble using the alternate installer from USB.  i have grub installed and launch the installer from USB via loopback.  it fails with "searching for Ubuntu installation", and more specifically "cdrom mount failed".
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: gimme a sec :)
[22:41] <valadares> how i can make ubuntu11.04 initialize with 3D effects and unity?
[22:41] <d1g1t4l_nrg> Hey all
[22:41] <Osmodivs> yaar The thing is, I have these file names in /media, I do not even have any memory sticks in the USB or CF media slot, but they are there, and they have nothing, I can't even unmount them. root@Djiin:/media/Ȕ# ls -a
[22:41] <Psydoll> cyperbg: lspci
[22:41] <sivang> or better in M$ format support?
[22:41] <Osmodivs> .  ..
[22:41] <Osmodivs>
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> duffo_: unfortunately not
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> sivang: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice
[22:41] <d1g1t4l_nrg> I have win 7 64 bit and was trying to install from live cd/dvd
[22:41] <gisli> sivang: libreoffice is a open office fork
[22:42] <d1g1t4l_nrg> I have NIS 2010 installed.
[22:42] <yaaar> sivang: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice created in response to oracle's purchase of sun. now that oracle is giving OO to apache, hard telling what the real separation will be
[22:42] <gisli> damn you actionparsnip
[22:42] <cyperbg> Psydoll I meant how can I find out if Adapter 0 is the one closer to the processor or farther?
[22:42] <d1g1t4l_nrg> the Ubuntu 11.04 would not install.
[22:42] <bazhang> gisli, stop that
[22:42] <gisli> what?
[22:42] <Osmodivs> yaaar, Might be the reason Ubuntu won't read my Sony WNZ USB Walkman,
[22:42] <d1g1t4l_nrg> would not bring up option to install along side existing install.
[22:42] <plandoll12> I'm having problems with internet.. I get random "invalid URL" messages for websites. Help?
[22:42] <Psydoll> I dont cyperbg easiest way is to look inside the case
[22:42] <bazhang> gisli, that language and tone is not acceptable
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> gisli: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
[22:43] <gisli> excuse me...didn't know that was a bad thing to say
[22:43] <d1g1t4l_nrg> reduced partition then restarted since ubuntu would not install no new unused space.
[22:43] <cyperbg> Psydoll, I can look inside the case, but how would I know which one corresponds to Adapter 0
[22:43] <Osmodivs> !help | plandoll12
[22:43] <gisli> what's your point ActionPar...?
[22:43] <d1g1t4l_nrg> any ideas ?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> gisli: "is a free software office suite developed by The Document Foundation as a fork of OpenOffice.orgis a free software office suite developed by The Document Foundation as a fork of OpenOffice.org"
[22:43] <gisli> yeah that's what I said
[22:43] <Osmodivs> ¡help | plandoll12
[22:43] <d1g1t4l_nrg> i even went back into win7 and formated to ntfs so ubuntu would see this.
[22:43] <yaaar> Osmodivs: not sure i completely understand. are you saying you have a bunch of empty directories under /media?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> gisli: oh, I misread, thought you said it WASN'T
[22:43] <Psydoll> cyperbg: the closet one to the processor is 0, then the next closest 1 etc etc
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> gisli: sorry
[22:44] <Psydoll> cyperbg: normally
[22:44] <Cheri703> just did a fresh installation on an hp computer (installed 10.10) and after boot, it gives a whole bunch of text and boots to a command line, then gives an error about initializing intel_agp something. If we type startx, it just hangs on a black screen. we have installed twice with the same result. Any thoughts on what is going on? or suggestions on things to try?
[22:44] <gisli> hehe no problem
[22:44] <cyperbg> Psydoll, thank you :)
[22:44] <d1g1t4l_nrg> boot back to ubuntu and it does not read partitions correctly now.
[22:44] <Osmodivs> yaaar, Yep
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Cheri703:what model HP?
[22:44] <Osmodivs> yaaar, Did you see the output of ls- a?
[22:44] <Cheri703> g42 (laptop)
[22:44] <d1g1t4l_nrg> So anyone here an expert at this?
[22:44] <d1g1t4l_nrg> hp g62
[22:44] <gisli> at what exactly?
[22:44] <d1g1t4l_nrg> ubuntu
[22:45] <d1g1t4l_nrg> installs
[22:45] <gisli> not an expert but I know my way araound the system...
[22:45] <bazhang> !enter | d1g1t4l_nrg
[22:45] <d1g1t4l_nrg> this 1104 does not seem to have the same inteligence as past installs.
[22:45] <Cheri703> ActionParsnip: g42 laptop
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Cheri703: try adding the boot option: nomodeset
[22:45] <gisli> intelligence?
[22:45] <Cheri703> ok
[22:45] <yaaar> Osmodivs: oh are you just talking about the two files "." and ".." that show up from ls -a ? because those "files" will show up in *every* directory. the "." file refers to the current directory, and the ".." file refers to its parent
[22:45] <Cheri703> when do we add that ActionParsnip?
[22:45] <gisli> *inteligence?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Cheri703: you may want to connect to a wired connection and get fully updated
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Cheri703
[22:46] <Cheri703> awesome, thanks :)
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> gisli: i thought the same
[22:46] <d1g1t4l_nrg> when i reboot to live cd/dvd it only has 2 options
[22:46] <Osmodivs> yaaar, I thought that was only on DOS systems, but anyway... So, there is no way to delete those ghost folders?
[22:47] <SpAc> can someone point me in the direction of where I can find out the specific difference between a regular server install and "minimal" server install?
[22:47] <gisli> what options do you have?
[22:47] <yaaar> Osmodivs: what ghost folders?
[22:47] <Osmodivs> yaaar, Ȕ  Data disc (12 May 11)  EOS_DIGITAL
[22:47] <yaaar> oh
[22:48] <Osmodivs> yaaar, I mean, look at that "U", it looks like a BUG
[22:48] <yaaar> so that's at   /media/Ȕ   ??
[22:48] <westz> UPDATES!
[22:48] <sohrab> Testing
[22:48] <Osmodivs> yaaar, And Datadisc, I dont remember having a memory stick called like that
[22:48] <yaaar> Osmodivs: how many directories do you have within /media ?
[22:49] <Osmodivs> yaaar, EOS_DIGITAL, well yes, I have a CF card for a SLR camera
[22:49] <yaaar> Osmodivs: and do they correspond with anything in the output of 'mount' and or 'cat /proc/mounts'
[22:49] <Osmodivs> yaaar, Just one
[22:49] <yaaar> ok
[22:49] <SpAc> I can't seem to find any documentation on specifics between the install modes
[22:49] <Guest16907> i have a thinkpad thats been updated to the latest 11.04 when turned on all I get is a purple screen with the ubuntu progress dots. Any suggestions?
[22:49] <yaaar> then you should be able to type 'rmdir <tab>' and it should complete it for you
[22:49] <szal> Guest16907: press Esc & observe error msgs, if any
[22:49] <d1g1t4l_nrg> replace windows and the something else option
[22:50] <Guest16907> ok trying now
[22:50] <d1g1t4l_nrg> I just want to dual boot
[22:50] <Loneclock> how do i update grub and remove old versions or linux?
[22:50] <yaaar> Osmodivs: otherwise my recommendation would be trying cut/paste and/or the AltGr key if you have one
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Guest16907
[22:50] <Osmodivs> yaaar, I tried to umount them, but i got a "not mounted" messsage, I have not tried any of those optios you are telling me right now
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Loneclock: if you run:  uname -a   you can see the CURRENT kernel
[22:50] <yaaar> Osmodivs: but the first thing i'd try is the 'rmdir /media/<tab>'
[22:50] <Osmodivs> yaaar, The thing is, they are root only, I cant just send them to the trash bin
[22:50] <d1g1t4l_nrg> problem is the installer does not give you any options that are of any use in the something else option
[22:51] <gisli> digital: huh sorry...I've never dualbooted so someone else has tro help you
[22:51] <Psydoll> My n00b question for the day, what is the difference between a dependency and a repository, i understand that a repos is where programs are stored
[22:51] <gisli> are you using the Wubi installer?
[22:51] <d1g1t4l_nrg> hmm i have always dual booted
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Loneclock: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2    you will see the INSTALLED kernels. you can remove installed kernels but NOT the running kernel. It will clean up grub for you
[22:51] <yaaar> Osmodivs: ok, try 'sudo rmdir /media/<tab>' and see if it completes that directory name. otherwise you could use 'sudo rmdir /media/*'
[22:51] <d1g1t4l_nrg> any one had any experience with dual boot  on HPg62 64bit with NIS 2010 installed ?
[22:52] <FergusonTG_> d1g1t4l_nrg: have you looked for the alternative install CD instead of the live CD? Gives much better options gnerally
[22:52] <d1g1t4l_nrg> nope but i will now.
[22:52] <aleprovencio> hello everyone, is there a command to access directly  the 'open with other application' dialog ?
[22:53] <Osmodivs> yaaar, No, that's cool, I deleted them, i'm root. But i thought that was gonna be the solution so Ubuntu could see my Sony-nwz USB mp3 player, but still, it does not detected
[22:53] <Loneclock> how do i check the grub menu without rebooting?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> d1g1t4l_nrg: could use the minimal install if your NIC works out of the box
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> d1g1t4l_nrg: your NIS 2010 is of no interest to us :)
[22:53] <Osmodivs> yaaar, I belive it was because I unplugged the player when it did not was fully ready,
[22:53] <szal> Osmodivs: does that thing work as USB mass storage anyway?
[22:54] <SpAc> Is there a way I can find the difference between the install modes? Perhaps at a package level?
[22:54] <[THC]AcidRain> i need a little help with crontab.
[22:54] <szal> SpAc: "install modes"?
[22:54] <Loneclock> Can I pm someone about grub?
[22:54] <yaaar> Osmodivs: have you looked at dmesg and/or /var/log/messages for what happens when you plug it in? one of my favorite tricks for unknown usb devices is to start with it not plugged into the computer, run 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and then plug it in and watch the messages roll by
[22:54] <Guest16907> szal   the error is:  process 373 failed dur to unknown user id
[22:54] <[THC]AcidRain> but my issue i dont believe has anything to do with crontab
[22:54] <[THC]AcidRain> when i type a command, i get this error: bash: Android_Development: command not found
[22:54] <d1g1t4l_nrg> found the location of the alternative cd install location on other pc.
[22:55] <d1g1t4l_nrg> will download that version now.
[22:55] <SpAc> szal: yeah, when booting from the install CD and hitting F4
[22:55] <d1g1t4l_nrg> thanks for the help.
[22:55] <vlt> !here | Loneclock
[22:55] <d1g1t4l_nrg> laterz
[22:55] <d1g1t4l_nrg> laterz
[22:55] <FergusonTG_> d1g1t4l_nrg: good luck!