[00:00] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Did that for all three keys, and get gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[00:00] <Bashing-om> Renodef: A040830F7FAC5991 , 40976EAF437D05B5 , 40976EAF437D05B5 , my mistake, 2 keys vice 3, ???
[00:01] <Renodef> Bashing-om: 16126D3A3E5C1192
[00:02] <Renodef> Bashing-om: The fingerprint shows these three keys btw.. but update still says invalid keys (BADSIG)
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Does not compute ! should be clean at this time. Let's reconfirm the "bad" keys, and go through that lat procedure again .. remove and (re-)add those 3 (3) keys.
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: " but update still says invalid keys (BADSIG)" same keys ?
[00:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: So.. here's what I'm going to do... 1) sudo apt-get update 2) Note the keys listed as invalid -- for BADSIG or whatever 3) Remove those keys from trusted.gpg 4) Re-add the keys from the keyserver 5) Run update again.
[00:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Yeah, same 3 keys.
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Makes me wonder why the .gpg files are messing up .. maybe getting deep !
[00:09] <Mike9863> GNOME terminal keeps outputting stuff about a hardware error along with a beep sound. How can I disable this?
[00:10] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I notice that 40976EAF437D05B5's uid -- Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is the same as the UID for another key in the fingerprint file - viz. 3B4F E6AC C0B2 1F32. You think this is confusing it? Even if it is, would it affect the other keys, and those packages?
[00:11] <demophobia> I just launched firefox by entering 'firefox' in the terminal, and now the terminal is waiting, presumably for firefox to quit. Is this not a good way to use the terminal? Or, is it standard practice to open multiple terminal windows for each program?
[00:12] <OerHeks> demophobia, "firefox & "would release the terminalprompt
[00:13] <olivierw> demophobia: Ctrl-z then bg will release but OerHeks is right
[00:13] <tonito> hola
[00:14] <demophobia> 'bg'?
[00:14] <OerHeks> Ctrlz z is a nice escape too  olivierw +1
[00:14] <olivierw> jobs will run in background --> bg
[00:14] <tonito> hi
[00:14] <demophobia> i think i just made firefox unresponsive 'cause i ctrl+z
[00:14] <olivierw> fg will recall in foreground
[00:14] <olivierw> type bg
[00:15] <demophobia> do i have to force quit now? i then 'firefox &' but notings' happening, except it printed what i guess is the uid number
[00:15] <demophobia> ah, i typed 'fg' and it became responsive again
[00:15] <academy> Does anyone know of a media player which allows two people to watch the same video and synchronise play/pause/ff/rw?  i.e. When one person pauses, the other does too.
[00:16] <tonito> i have a problem
[00:16] <olivierw> go on tonito
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Not real sure if a conflict would exist if the signing keys all come from "ubuntu".. Let's say not.
[00:17] <thom_r> what are you having problems with tonito?
[00:17] <demophobia> 'firefox &' output '[2] 4142' but I don't know what that means and nothing seemed to happen :(
[00:18] <demophobia> ohh like you said
[00:18] <demophobia> i typed 'fg' and it came up
[00:18] <bekks> demophobia: second process in the job queue, having the process id 4142
[00:18] <demophobia> but now the terminal is unresponsive again
[00:18] <demophobia> thank you bekks
[00:18] <tonito> i have ubuntu 13.10 and began to stick
[00:18] <bekks> demophobia: press ctrl z again, and type bg instead of fg.
[00:18] <thom_r> tonito stick where? how?
[00:19] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Right.. I deleted all three, re-added 16126D3A3E5C1192, and even used that export command (gpg --export --armor 16126D3A3E5C1192 | sudo apt-key add - ), and then ran sudo apt-get update. I got NO_PUBKEY for the other two keys (makes sense), but still getting a BADSIG for this one!
[00:19] <tonito> stick around, the videos, the folders, all
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Renodef: If the situation still exist, I got another thought in mind !
[00:19] <thom_r> tonito, is it just being slow?
[00:19] <demophobia> cool, thank you bekks :D lol ... i wonder if i amuse or annoy, with how complete beginner i am
[00:20] <tonito> si
[00:20] <tonito> yes
[00:20] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Sure.. let's have it.
[00:20] <thom_r> ok, what kind of hardware do you have? How old is the computer?
[00:21] <Pikaa> I'm running 2011 hardware here ;P
[00:21] <olivierw> btw thx OerHeks
[00:22] <tonito> do not think it affects because I did have another partition to test if it was ubuntu, but this new ubuntu install does not stick and I played fluid
[00:24] <thom_r> tonito, so you have two different Ubuntu versions installed, one is slow and the other is not/
[00:24] <thom_r> ?
[00:24] <tonito> exactly
[00:25] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Let's clear the system's data base and rebuild. sudo -i , apt-get clean , cd /var/lib/apt , mv lists lists.old , mkdir -p lists/partial , apt-get clean , Do the remove (re-)add routine and now what results -> apt-get update , exit ??
[00:25] <thom_r> ok, then just use the one that isn't slow
[00:25] <thom_r> what version is working properly
[00:25] <tonito> iI install another ubuntu to test if it was the PC that was giving me the joke or you
[00:25] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Yeah... literally read that on your link this second. Doing it now.
[00:27] <tonito> ok but the thing is that I want to know if there is a way to take the slowness is because there have already downloaded and installed my programs
[00:27] <tonito> the version that is working properly is ubuntu studio 12.04 lts
[00:27] <tonito> and the another version is la 13.10
[00:27] <Liam-> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10, and after browsing for awhile, it'll just lock up (the whole desktop) after a few hours, or a day of running. It's just teh desktop too, I can still access the ctrl+alt+f# login and everything, and I'm not sure what to look for in the system logs, or which logs to look into
[00:28] <Liam-> It's also more then one desktop software, cinnamon, unity, kde
[00:28] <maxh76> Hello
[00:29] <maxh76> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.3 on a 32-bit system. And I'm getting kernel errors. Can anyone help?
[00:29] <thom_r> tonito, just run 12.04, that is the long term support release.
[00:29] <thom_r> maxh76, are you trying to install a 64 bit version?
[00:30] <maxh76> Nope, I'm install a 32-bit version.
[00:30] <maxh76> installing*
[00:30] <thom_r> are you installing from a dvd or usb?
[00:30] <maxh76> From a USB
[00:30] <tonito> ok but
[00:30] <tonito> ok but then I install all over again: (
[00:30] <thom_r> what program did you use to make the usb?
[00:31] <thom_r> tonito, you said you had 12.04 installed. Just use your 12.04 install and leave it as that
[00:31] <maxh76> I used UNetbootin, I have ubuntu 12.04.3 64 on this system.
[00:31] <tonito> hey I'm kinda new to this chat, when you leave the letters in red is because you're talking to me like I do to respond to another?
[00:32] <thom_r> hmm, have you tried re-making the live usb?
[00:32] <maxh76> I actually think it just got fixed.
[00:32] <maxh76> I shall try that next, thanks.
[00:32] <OerHeks> maxh76, 32 bit system, do you get a PAE warning?
[00:32] <thom_r> sometimes Unetbootin can screw things up, some people have terrible luck with it and some never have a problem
[00:33] <thom_r> tonito, yes. If the letters are in red then it means someone is talking to you
[00:33] <maxh76> I don't think I got a PAE warning.
[00:33] <maxh76> What other program could I use to make a bootable USB?
[00:34] <tonito> i used this tonito, you said you had 12.04 installed. Just use your 12.04 install and leave it as that
[00:34] <tonito> i used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:35] <maxh76> I'm running ubuntu right now, that wouldn't work too well..
[00:35] <maxh76> Unless I used wine..
[00:35] <tonito> ok thom_r and how i do to answer you directly
[00:35] <thom_r> tonito, do you have 13.10 installed on your hard drive?
[00:35] <tonito> yes
[00:35] <tonito> i have two partitions
[00:36] <thom_r> ok, and you also have 12.04 installed on your hard drive. 12.04 is working fine, 13.10 is running very slowly. Why don't you just use 12.04 as it is working correctly. 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[00:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Dammit. The addition of the keys STILL says no ultimately trusted keys found!
[00:36] <tonito> but began to stick then update
[00:37] <tonito> ok ok i that'll do
[00:37] <tonito> xD
[00:37] <thom_r> ok
[00:37] <thom_r> no need to upgrade to 13.10
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Renodef: I am stuck, let me see what I can come up with. For now I am all out of idea ! I will be back.
[00:38] <Pikaa> No need to even upgrade to 14.04 when it is released.
[00:38] <maxh76> Does anyone know how to create a bootable USB drive on ubuntu without using UNetbootin?
[00:38] <tonito> but every time that out a new version
[00:38] <tonito> do not know why but I get the shrink and I have it
[00:39] <esde> I backed up my sources.list sources.list.d and my list of packages (dpkg --get-selections) from the old machine and copied them to the machine. Looking at the list of packages, there is kde-runtime and other kde packages, I am running ubuntu 12.04 on both machines, how can I tell which package depends on kde, and how can I safely get rid of all the kde packages?? I dont think I need or want them
[00:40] <tonito> -esde
[00:40] <tonito> how do I reply to someone here
[00:40] <tonito> ?
[00:42] <glitsj16> maxh76: use usb-creator-gtk, your 12.04 64bit ubuntu probably already has that
[00:42] <glitsj16> maxh76: if not you can simply install that from the repos
[00:42] <thom_r> tonito, just type their name
[00:43] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Argh. Thanks! So, I guess the current situation is: the key's being written, but not being trusted? I don't get how that works. If it's listed in the trusted.gpg file... (and it is, since the fingerprint shows it is listed) - what can be causing the BADSIG?
[00:44] <maxh76> glits16 I'm using "startup disk creator' comes with ubuntu. I just realized I'm creating ubuntu... Not making an install disk..
[00:45] <maxh76> Oh, usb-creator-gtk is the same thing as startup disk creator. Hmm.
[00:46] <Renodef> Bashing-om: 1) I've noticed that we've only been referring to keys by the last 16 characters. Should I run the commands with the whole length as shown in the fingerprint? 2) If you're on 12.04, would it be too much to ask you to remove/re-add the same key and check if your system remains unaffected? (To check if it's a specific problem with my installation, or if the Ubuntu keyserver is handing out BADSIG generating keys... unlikel
[00:47] <Iszak> Renodef why not create a login script that displays your key?
[00:48] <glitsj16> maxh76: creating ubuntu versus making an install disk .. i thought you wanted to install 12.04 32bit, misread the issue sorry
[00:49] <Renodef> Iszak: Don't know what you mean.. The issue I'm having is update-manager won't update its package list (Keeps saying package was last updated 6 days ago, and doesn't show new updates)
[00:50] <webhelp> hi, i wanne try wubi now to install the new lts instead of that 8.04 cd ... only thing is ubuntu is allready installed ... no windows ... can i somehow wubi it native from source ?
[00:50] <maxh76> It's okay. My issue is that I can't install ubuntu 12.04 32-bit on a 32-bit system from a USB. It installs, but after that it can't do much. It boots with a kernel bug and another issue..
[00:51] <maxh76> I think I'll just format one of my disks and use that, that seems to work much better.
[00:51] <webhelp> recompile kernel
[00:51] <bekks> webhelp: No. Wubi is for Windows.
[00:51] <webhelp> bekks what do i use netive then ?
[00:51] <bekks> webhelp: A virtual machine or a live cd.
[00:51] <webhelp> isomount jolliet says package files not found on iso in archivers and package mùanagers
[00:52] <webhelp> apt-cdrom add
[00:52] <webhelp> bekks it doesnt mount any iso or cd from fresh boot ... it only got 8.04 installed and i cant install or run newer somehow
[00:53] <webhelp> anybody some clues ?
[00:54] <donspaulding> If I'm using a PPA to get updates to a package, can I lock in a maximum version of the package that I want?
[00:54] <webhelp> wubo for ubuntu native ? wubi-native-x86 ? whers wubi sources ... but oh no thats right i dont got a sources.list for 8.04 so i cant install things anythings
[00:55] <webhelp> :/
[00:55] <donspaulding> i.e. I'm using redis-server from chris lea's PPA, and I just found a bug in 2.8.3, but the PPA has previous builds for 2.8.2.  How can I specify to not upgrade past 2.8.2 while still using the PPA?
[00:55] <bekks> webhelp: Forget about wubi unless you have a Windows.
[00:56] <webhelp> sudo apt-get install app-2.8.3 ?
[00:56] <bekks> !eolupgrades | webhelp
[00:56] <webhelp> so bekks whats the linux way of installing linux ?
[00:56] <webhelp> no cdrom no usb ...
[00:56] <bekks> webhelp: By using a recent installation medium or upgrading.
[00:57] <bekks> webhelp: So please read the links ubottu gave you.
[00:57] <webhelp> but recent kernel panics
[00:57] <webhelp> cant get past kernel panic
[00:58] <webhelp> upgrader almost always spits out errors
[00:58] <tonito> i do not understand that
[00:58] <webhelp> okey thats it for tonight thanks for all the webhelp :)
[00:59] <webhelp> tonito what dont u understand ?
[00:59] <tonito> this chat
[00:59] <webhelp> well i can install 8.04 but cant upgrade online or with installation media to newer
[00:59] <tonito> I'm not familiar
[01:00] <webhelp> i cant install newer cuz of kernel panics ... and so on ... im doomed
[01:00] <Bashing-om> HILIGHT Renodef
[01:00] <Ben64> webhelp: 8.04 is way out of date, you need to install 12.04 or 13.10 if you want support here
[01:00] <Ben64> tonito: this is the ubuntu support chat channel
[01:00] <webhelp> but thats just it .... how can i install it if i cant ?
[01:01] <Ben64> well then post the error you get
[01:01] <webhelp> Ben64 is north bridge
[01:01] <Ben64> that means nothing
[01:01] <tonito> ok but that is what I refer to irc as such is not well manage the program
[01:01] <glitsj16> donspaulding: downgrade to the 2.8.2 package and use "sudo apt-mark hold redis-server" to pin it .. some more context here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:01] <Renodef> Bashing-om: HILIGHT?
[01:01] <webhelp> indeed but only old builds it supports without the kernel panic
[01:02] <Ben64> tonito: what? if you don't have an ubuntu support question, you're probably in the wrong channel here
[01:02] <tonito> wait wait
[01:02] <webhelp> Ben64 my actuall question was what is the linux way of installing linux ? ... since i cant install wubi or run wubi from windows ... i cant ... how do i run wubi native ?
[01:02] <Ben64> webhelp: you'll need to provide full details if you want any hope of fixing the problem
[01:03] <webhelp> Ben64 sorry if i dont recall the exact kernel panic irq
[01:03] <Ben64> webhelp: wubi is for windows, and is not recommended for anything more than testing. boot a cd or usb and install it that way
[01:03] <tonito> I have a problem with ubuntu but you guys helped me fix so to speak, the comment I made the chat was just that, a comment
[01:03] <webhelp> cant bootcd or usb somehow ... thats a picky bootloader booting only 2K builds
[01:04] <webhelp> some cd it does ... if its old stuff ... reallly odd since the newer just dont boot
[01:04] <Ben64> if you have a cd drive, you can boot a cd
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well I am presently on 13.10, I do as a matter of fact quadrruple boot, and I do have 12.04.1 installed. I will, for you, reboot into 12.04 and see what results !
[01:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Aww.. I'm feeling holiday season internet love. :D Thanks! I'll wait.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> Renodef: "hiligh" my error - learning IRC -- irssi client !
[01:05] <webhelp> Ben64 so with the iso whats the chroot or extracting way to install newer ubuntu ?
[01:06] <webhelp> remastersys .... needs a repdatrsys
[01:06] <Ben64> webhelp: chroot or extracting? just boot the cd and hit "install" ...
[01:06] <webhelp> i cant it wont boot somehow
[01:06] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I'm new too. I've been  googled "Hilight irc freenode" lol.
[01:06] <Ben64> webhelp: it will boot
[01:06] <Renodef> #googling. Sheesh.
[01:06] <webhelp> it didnt okey thanks
[01:07] <Ben64> webhelp: how is anyone supposed to help you when you just say everything wont work?
[01:07] <webhelp> it didnt cuz that intel mobo is just braindead
[01:07] <Ben64> no
[01:07] <idueppe> I managed to debootstrap ubuntu 12.04 lts into a vmware image... but after rebooting the network connector doesn't exist. It should be the ntel Corporation 82545EM. Do I just need to install this adapter? And How?
[01:07] <Ben64> webhelp: burn the cd properly, boot it, post any errors here
[01:07] <webhelp> it was real ... if i ejected usb ontop hdd (sata2) then it said no system disk and the cd was in it
[01:08] <Ben64> ejected usb ontop hdd?
[01:08] <webhelp> if the ontop disk was in it booted 8.04
[01:08] <tonito> you kno
[01:08] <Ben64> what the hell are you doing? just BOOT THE CD
[01:08] <webhelp> yea like xbox360 ontophdd
[01:08] <Ben64> i have no idea what that is. simply boot the 12.04 cd
[01:08] <tonito> you know what is serve's name irc wine?
[01:09] <Ben64> you're making it much more complicated than necessary
[01:09] <Renodef> Ben64, webhelp - The communication gap here is HILARIOUS. :D
[01:09] <webhelp> it wont boot the 12.04 or any temporarily ... seems i mseeed up somehow
[01:09] <Ben64> Renodef: your commentary isn't welcome
[01:09] <glitsj16> tonito: #winehq i think
[01:09] <tonito> thanks!
[01:09] <Ben64> webhelp: post the error here then, don't just say "won't"
[01:09] <webhelp> i tried all evening allready
[01:10] <Ben64> webhelp: then leave if you refuse to provide any details
[01:10] <webhelp> what i need is a way inside linux to update without any manager
[01:10] <Pikaa> Linux is very good for developing neurons.
[01:10] <webhelp> and i say without any manager cuz they all error on me inside 8.04
[01:10] <Renodef> Ben64 , webhelp : No offence intended!
[01:11] <MarGul> how can I get my Google Chrome icon in the Panel at xubuntu? I have tried so many different ways but just cant figure it out :/
[01:11] <webhelp> even with installation media iso and so on
[01:11] <Ben64> webhelp: stop talking about 8.04. do this or be ignored. 1. download 12.04 cd.  2. burn 12.04 cd. 3. boot 12.04 cd. 4. install 12.04 cd
[01:11] <webhelp> do u got a newest stage2 tarball ?
[01:11] <bekks> webhelp: then use a 10.04 livecd, which doesnt have PAE kernel yet.
[01:11] <webhelp> whats PAE ?
[01:12] <Ben64> bekks: 10.04 is not supported, don't recommend that
[01:12] <bekks> Ben64: I guess his computer isnt capable of PAE, which is the default on 12.04
[01:12] <bekks> Ben64: So his only chance is to update from 10.04 to 12.04-non-PAE.
[01:12] <webhelp> whers that ?
[01:13] <tonito> glistsj16 the servers's name is winehq ;)
[01:13] <Ben64> or download the 12.04 non-pae ? http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/
[01:13] <bekks> Ben64: Or that, yes.
[01:13] <Ben64> don't make him have to EOL upgrade if not necessary
[01:13] <Ben64> don't even know if pae is the problem, he's provided no details at all
[01:14] <glitsj16> tonito: thanks for confirming :)
[01:15] <tonito> youre welcome
[01:16] <webhelp> Ben64 u want my detail ? youre welcome ... but i thought of chroot upgrade allready
[01:17] <webhelp> or maybe install server ... are there any script to instalml ubuntu-some inside ubuntu-other ?
[01:17] <webhelp> and not virtual
[01:18] <Ben64> webhelp: no, stop asking
[01:20] <tonito> what another server's name you know
[01:21] <Rickardo1> How do I create ssh access to www-data ... I want to preserve the permission while running rsync
[01:23] <Iszak> Rickardo1 why would you want to do that?
[01:23] <Iszak> Rickardo1 rsync has an "a" mode also known as archive which should preserve the permissions.
[01:23] <Rickardo1> Iszak: So I don't have to change permissions after sync with another user.
[01:23] <idueppe> After booting my debootstraped ubuntu in vmware I have no ethernet adapter? What did I forgot?
[01:24] <Iszak> Rickardo1 if you're root and you're moving files, they should have the same permission, perhaps different ownership/group
[01:26] <Rickardo1> Iszak: I meant ownership... when using rsync the owner is replaced by my ssh user..
[01:26] <Iszak> Rickardo1 this is correct, this is how it behaves, you can easily change it though.
[01:27] <Iszak> I would imagine though it may be difficult to keep the same owner/group, perhaps possible. What if user "www-data" did not exist?
[01:27] <Rickardo1> is it a bad idea to use the www-data account as ssh user.
[01:27] <TJ-> idueppe: forgot? defining an interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:28] <Iszak> Rickardo1 I personally think so yes, I use a different user for each website I host for security reasons
[01:28] <qin> Rickardo1: add ssh user to www-data groups and make link in his home to www-data
[01:28] <Iszak> the idea of a system user having ssh access, cringe.
[01:28] <alexkrupp> My 12.04 isn't booting anymore after power cycling my computer... It now gives me the choice of whether I want to boot as normal, in recovery mode, etc... And then when I select to boot the OS as normal, it just hangs on a blank purple screen... Any ideas?
[01:28] <idueppe> TJ, no i configured it
[01:29] <qin> Rickardo1: and you would make sure that ssh user do not have any sudo rights
[01:30] <Rickardo1> qin: yes
[01:30] <qin> Rickardo1: "yes" what?
[01:30] <idueppe> while booting I receive piix4_smbus ...: Host SMBus controller not enabled
[01:30] <Rickardo1> qin: sorry, wrong chat.
[01:30] <qin> np
[01:31] <idueppe> I can blacklist i2c_piix4 but I guess there is something missing
[01:31] <idueppe> also I have to what 120 seconds for the network configruation... ??
[01:32] <glitsj16> alexkrupp: i'd try to drop into recovery mode and do a fsck first to make sure the filesystem is clean
[01:33] <alexkrupp> glitsj16: K I'll do that... What would I do in recovery mode?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: OK, My test per your request is a success, deleted and (re-)added key. Interesting enough I also get the "not ultimatrly trusted". Ok got another thought. Lets say your mirror has bad data. Change your Mirror site.
[01:34] <TJ-> idueppe: what network chipset does the vmware guest see? "lspci -nn | grep net|wire"
[01:34] <glitsj16> alexkrupp: just choose the option fsck in the menu offered and after that try to boot as normal
[01:34] <tonito> bye guys
[01:34] <alexkrupp> glitsj16: OK, thanks
[01:34] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Aah. Interesting. I did change the mirror yesterday
[01:35] <tonito> thanks a lot
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well, then It is back to uncle Google, I do have some other links in this respect in my tool box.
[01:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om: After having noted 5 days of no updates... I checked out a server I know to be in the same city, the closest server (letting it find the one it thought was closest -- which interestingly was not the same as the first), the main server and the UK server.
[01:37] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ha.. google it is then. Shoot away with the URLs
[01:38] <Sin> was good
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Stranger alla the time ! .. While I look, here is one for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890 .
[01:38] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I'll bookmark them and check up later... Been on the verge of buying a new computer for a while now. This issue only adds weight to that.
[01:40] <idueppe> TJ-: It says "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) [8086:100f] (rev 01)"
[01:44] <JonnehxD> Hello everyone.. I've got a question about shell scripts and navigating directories.. anyone available to help? :)
[01:45] <daftykins> just ask.
[01:45] <TJ-> Renodef: What does this show? "ls -l /var/lib/apt/keyrings/"
[01:46] <alex_fun> heya
[01:46] <alex_fun> :D
[01:46] <alex_fun> how i can see real memory usage?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Wow, This little thing ! Ain't no step bit a step for a stepper, And Hey, newer may not be better. Maybe better the evil you already know.   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html<- Have not seen the results of that 2nd sequence of commands, can not say.
[01:46] <TJ-> idueppe: Does "ifconfig -a" show an eth0? How about "egrep eth[[:digit:]] /var/log/dmesg"  ?
[01:49] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Well that's a non-starter. I don't have aptitude installed.
[01:49] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Terminal output-> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[01:51] <Renodef> Bashing-om: and... sudo apt-get aptitude results in -> Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[01:52] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Here is one that looks real promising !http://opensourceforgeeks.blogspot.in/2013/04/w-gpg-error-httpppalaunchpadnet-precise.html .// Yeah aptitude is no longer installed by default.; No biggy try, move to this reference site this post.
[01:53] <myndzi> i'm not entirely sure where to ask this, maybe someone can guide me
[01:53] <myndzi> i have some ubuntu servers that i set up with authorized_keys2 entries so that i can connect with rsa keys
[01:54] <myndzi> one of them just started prompting me for a password
[01:54] <myndzi> i checked and the public keys are still in .ssh/authorized_keys2
[01:54] <myndzi> it just doesn't seem to be trying to use them
[01:54] <myndzi> why might this be?
[01:54] <SPFINC> Hi
[01:55] <thom_r> SPFINC hi
[01:55] <TJ-> myndzi: On your local PC (the SSH client) have you recently added more private keys?
[01:55] <myndzi> no
[01:55] <myndzi> local is windows, using putty and pageant
[01:55] <myndzi> it hasn't restarted and it can connect to other ubuntu servers with the exact same file in place
[01:56] <myndzi> (i put it in a git repo for easy deployment :P)
[01:56] <myndzi> i'm not sure how to determine what's going on
[01:56] <myndzi> i even have a stale putty session that's connected via the public key method
[01:56] <TJ-> myndzi: The password-instead-of-certificate issue can occur when the client sends too many certificates for authentication and the server reaches a limit and switches to Password authentication
[01:57] <myndzi> the only thing i can think of that may have changed is that i had to remotely access this system from my laptop the other day, but it was via a different account (one with a long password)
[01:57] <myndzi> is there a way to kick it back into certificate mode?
[01:57] <myndzi> the account doesn't even have a password (it's locked)
[01:59] <TJ-> myndzi: On a linux client you can do "ssh -vvvv ..." to get a huge amount of debug output, which will help identify the cause. You can also look at the server's /var/log/auth.log for clues, but you'd probably have to increase the debug level of the sshd and restart it
[01:59] <myndzi> oh crap
[01:59] <myndzi> i think i worked it out
[01:59] <myndzi> (i just got at auth.log)
[01:59] <myndzi> i had a permission problem and for some reason thought it was a good idea to chmod -R my home dir D:
[01:59] <myndzi> bad ownership or modes for file /home/search/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[02:00] <TJ-> myndzi: *applause* :D
[02:00] <myndzi> it was because i was editing the files remotely but needed the other user (with the password) to be able to update them
[02:00] <myndzi> hmm, i wonder how i should do this
[02:01] <myndzi> ah it was probably g+w
[02:01] <idueppe> TJ-: sorry, I cannot cut&paste the output. But you can see snapshots of it here https://www.dropbox.com/sc/e1ifi9djitiurp8/rjmq6Zfjq5#/
[02:01] <myndzi> i can see why that would be a problem
[02:02] <myndzi> fixed! :D thanks for your help, it actually gave me the search terms that got me here :)
[02:03] <myndzi> are there any other items like this that might be lurking, you think?
[02:03] <TJ-> idueppe: I suspect you have either a routing issue ("ip route ls"), or firewall ("sudo iptables -nvL")
[02:03] <myndzi> i think i'll just g-w everything to be safe
[02:03] <TJ-> myndzi: You can never tell once a user has been allowed to play :)
[02:04] <myndzi> :(
[02:04] <TJ-> idueppe: otherwise, it's the VMware hypervisor configuration
[02:07] <Renodef> Bashing-om: The open-source for geeks blog post stuff is pretty much the same approach. I did change the gpg.conf in gedit (which shouldn't have made a difference given we were giving it the URL he sets in the conf. file; when we sent terminal commands)... and it didn't make any difference later.
[02:08] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I guess I'll have to hunt for the key files on the keyserver manually..
[02:08] <TJ-> Renodef: What does this show? "ls -l /var/lib/apt/keyrings/"
[02:09] <Speiros> Hello people.
[02:09] <Speiros> I have a problem
[02:09] <Renodef> TJ- : -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6713 Feb 14  2013 ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[02:10] <idueppe> TJ-: I'm using VMware Fusion for testing, so no hypervisor configuration. If I boot from the ubuntu cd it is fine but after debootstraping and reboot there is no ethernet.  You can see the iptables output here https://www.dropbox.com/sc/j7cn0arwtgtwp77/591so279Gh. And what I did with debootstraping here https://gist.github.com/idueppe/8173364
[02:10] <Speiros> I am trying to use 12.04.3 LTS on a removable hard disk so that I can try it, and I currently have 10.4, but there seems to be so many things I can't use with my own system.  So I want to try out this LTS version.  I don't want to remove nor replace this old one yet, as I have done this twice now with a big failure rate, so much that I punched my laptop in after going over the same madness over and over again too many times.  Can
[02:10] <Speiros> someone please help me.
[02:11] <Speiros> The 10.4 is on my main hard drive, whilst the 12.04 is on the removable one.
[02:11] <TJ-> Renodef: Is the "md5sum" of that file "2da9538bbb4eaec69e47de5b105217a8" ?
[02:11] <idueppe> TJ-: sorry wrong link https://www.dropbox.com/sc/j7cn0arwtgtwp77/591so279Gh
[02:12] <Speiros> Oh, the twice was using the laptop at the end of last year.  Not on this computer.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> Renodef: That last link pretty well covers all the bases. I will be here in the event of need - popping in and out.
[02:14] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. hash matches.
[02:15] <Renodef> Bashing-om : Sure, thanks! TJ- might have something.. otherwise, it's on to manual mode.
[02:16] <Ben64> Speiros: ok so what is the actual problem you are encountering
[02:17] <TJ-> Renodef: I only recently started paying attention to your issue; have you previously pastebinned the output of "apt-get update" or other commands that are reporting the problems?
[02:17] <Speiros> Thanks Ben64.  I don't seem to be able to open the hard drive, although I placed the ISO image on it (707MB), and I don't know why.  I'm pressing f9 to get into boot mode, but it won't open, just opens as a black screen after going through the prompts of the boot drive.
[02:18] <Renodef> TJ- : yeah..hang on.. in a moment of wisdom, I bookmarked them
[02:19] <Ben64> Speiros: uh, placing an iso on an external hard drive does not mean it is installed or bootable even
[02:19] <Speiros> Ben64, do I open it onto the hard drive, and then try again?
[02:19] <Renodef> TJ- : In order 1) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665195/ 2) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665296/ 3) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665421/ 4) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665513/ 5) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665592/
[02:19] <Ben64> Speiros: do you want to install it to the external?
[02:19] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes.
[02:20] <Speiros> The hard drive is empty apart from a lost/found file
[02:20] <Ben64> Speiros: then either burn the iso to a cd or dvd, or write it to a usb drive and boot it that way
[02:20] <Ben64> Speiros: then you can choose where to install it
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 I tried burning it to DVD (I have no CD's, and it is a DVD drive), but the DVD had some error too.  I have too many errors with the 10.4 that not many "normal" options are working.
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 I couldn't burn to DVD.
[02:21] <Ben64> why not?
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 give me a minute, and I'll burn another one, and tell you what the error is.
[02:23] <Renodef> Bashing-om, TJ- : by the way, is ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg supposed to have characters that gedit encoding doesn't display? I opened it, but got that "The file opened contains invalid characters, and if you continue to edit it, it may corrupt the file". Now what I'm thinking is.. if these characters can't be sent over the web, for whatever hashing algorithm that checks the signature of the keys... and if they're screwed up somehow
[02:23] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay, the first prompt is a choice of burning as file, or burning as contents.  I've tried both previously, but which one should it be?  Probably contents, yes?
[02:23] <Ben64> um... neither
[02:23] <Ben64> you burn it as an image, since it is an image
[02:23] <TJ-> Renodef: Have you moved the "/var/lib/apt/lists/" directory (to "lists.old") and replaced it with an empty directory, and then retried the "apt-get update" ?
[02:24] <TJ-> Renodef: Yes, it's a binary file containing the certificates
[02:24] <Speiros> Ben64 There are no other options for me except this box, which gives me these two options.
[02:24] <carandraug> hi! I remember there was something the bot could say that would basically tell the OP that he should explain what the problem really is, rather than ask for help for a very small but complicated thing that usually means he's trying to solve the original problem the wrong way
[02:24] <Speiros> Ben64 Sorry, I just closed it, and wrote to it..
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  Correct, no can edit a .gpg file .. Validation process !
[02:25] <Speiros> Ben64 It automatically ejected, and I've logged the error.
[02:25] <Ben64> Speiros: not sure what box you are referring to, but you need to write the image as an image. use a program that can do that
[02:25] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ah.. cool.
[02:25] <whatisthematrix> carandraug: you mean !ask ?
[02:25] <Speiros> Ben64 I thought that was Brasero
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> hi, can I, in theory, go offline after doing sudo do-release-upgrade, after he finished downloading?
[02:26] <whatisthematrix> Lunar_Lander: yes, i would think so
[02:26] <Ben64> Speiros: i
[02:26] <Ben64> 've never used brasero, but i'm sure it can burn images
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> thanks whatisthematrix
[02:27] <Renodef> TJ- : Yeah that method's been experimented with... hasn't solved the issue. (Btw, why can't Gedit display a binary file as a string of 1s and 0s?)
[02:27] <whatisthematrix> Lunar_Lander: yw
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Second thought .. what file are you looking at .. a sig file is openable and readable in a test editor ! Give me the path and file and I will test here on my system.
[02:27] <carandraug> !ask
[02:27] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes.  Also, it says it stopped because of an error, but the error is called "no message" and error =0
[02:27] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, so you've cleaned out the downloaded list files, you've rewritten the GPG keyring entries
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Renodef: test = *text
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> night!
[02:28] <carandraug> whatisthematrix, no. Kinda like when someone asks how to create variables named a1, a2, a3, a4, etc with eval when the right answer is "don't do this! You should be using an array/list/etc"
[02:28] <whatisthematrix> carandraug: ahh, sorry, i don't know then
[02:28] <TJ-> Renodef: Are you, by any chance, accessing the archives through a proxy, even a transparent proxy, that could be corrupting the incoming files?
[02:28] <Renodef> Bashing-om: File - /var/lib/apt/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg (and text editor was gedit)
[02:28] <Ben64> Speiros: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-burn-an-iso-to-a-cd-or-dvd-in-ubuntu#.UsIr0PixZv8
[02:28] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks, I'll have a look, and see how I go.
[02:29] <Renodef> TJ- : not AFAIK. But if it IS a transparent proxy... how would I know?
[02:31] <Bashing-om> Renodef: confirmed, that file no mess with .. editor gives same same warnings from my test as yours, and "strange" chearacters.
[02:31] <TJ-> Renodef: proxy headers in the HTTP stream
[02:31] <Renodef> TJ- : in any case, the hash matched... so it isn't corrupt.. which means the network's not messing it up. (If this file you told me to checksum isn't a local file, and is something that's written to at each update)
[02:31] <Sin> bbbb bonfire
[02:31] <Renodef> TJ- ah.. but where do I check for that? Wireshark?
[02:32] <TJ-> Renodef: No, that file is static and comes from the package "ubuntu-keyring"
[02:32] <TJ-> Renodef: You could use tcpdump or Wireshark
[02:33] <Speiros> Ben64 "Starting to record", and then "Ejecting medium", and it gives me the same message as before. "Error while burning", "unknown error"
[02:34] <Speiros> Ben64 This is why I was trying to use the external drive.
[02:35] <Ben64> well you can't install ubuntu from the external drive onto itself
[02:35] <Renodef> TJ- ok.. I just did a capture now.. and this IRC was the only traffic.. so click on a packet and check where exactly?
[02:35] <Speiros> Ben64 I formatted it, then partitioned it to Ext4 format, and (there were problems here too) when I finally got it right, put the ISO onto it.
[02:36] <Speiros> Ben64 So how do I do it?  I've had it on the hard drive, and tried to copy it onto it.
[02:36] <Ben64> if your computer can boot from usb, you can put the iso onto a flash drive and boot from that
[02:37] <Speiros> Ben64 My external hard drive is on USB.  Is that different?
[02:37] <Ben64> but you won't be able to install to the external drive if you boot the iso from it...
[02:37] <mobi323> Hello All. I'm a total newbie.
[02:38] <Speiros> Ben64 That's fair enough, but I have a copy of the iso on both the normal hard drive and the external one.  I don't know what step to take to make the program useable.
[02:38] <Bashing-om> mobi323: Hey, so were we all at one time !
[02:38] <Speiros> Ben64 I don't know where to open the files that are contained in the iso
[02:39] <Ben64> you never open the iso
[02:39] <Ben64> it is an image, and needs to be written as one
[02:39] <mobi323> Thank you Bashing.
[02:39] <Speiros> Ben64 See where my frustration is?  I can't use the computer to open it, and I can't write to the hard drive.
[02:40] <Ben64> i don't think you know what you want to do
[02:40] <Speiros> Ben64 and I can't write to the DVD either.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> mobi323: You here for a reason or kicking back and in a learning mode ?
[02:40] <TJ-> Renodef: You'd capture traffic whilst doing an "apt-get update" *after* emptying "/var/lib/apt/lists/" so that apt is forced to fetch the files once more, and then you'd filter on HTTP traffic to the archive host and look at the response headers received.
[02:40] <Speiros> Ben64 I know what I want.  I want to be able to use the 12.04.3 LTS on the external hard drive.
[02:40] <Ben64> what exactly do you mean by that
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 Then if it doesn't mess up my files, then I will remove all the stuff off my main drive, and install it there, and use my files.
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 The external harddrive I want as a stand-alone version of linux
[02:41] <Ben64> can your computer even boot from usb?
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 It is saved as a bootable hard drive
[02:42] <Speiros> Ben64 Apparently so.  I've done this before.
[02:42] <mobi323> Bashing. I'm just looking to see what goes on. I have replaced my computer and I am running totally on Ubuntu. So I may need help at times.
[02:42] <Ben64> do you just want the livecd booting from the external?
[02:42] <Speiros> Ben64 but that was an upgrade from the 08 or 09 to the 10.4
[02:43] <Speiros> Ben64 that would be helpful, yes.
[02:43] <Ben64> then use something like unetbootin to write the image to the external drive
[02:43] <Speiros> Ben64 Is that a program or a command in Terminal?
[02:44] <ObrienDave> unetbootin is a program
[02:44] <Speiros> Thanks ObrienDave
[02:44] <Ben64> looks like it exists in 10.04 too
[02:45] <Bashing-om> mobi323: Ubuntu, plenty of help is available in many many places and forms. Outstanding support. But this conversation best in #ubuntu-ot. This channel is dedicated to support.
[02:45] <Speiros> Ben64 I'll have a look at the program.  Thanks for your patience.  You might be seeing a fraction of the hell that I've gone through for the last year or so now...at least for the times when I attempted to deal with this issue.
[02:46] <Renodef> TJ- ok I'm in /var/lib/apt
[02:46] <Renodef> TJ- should I remove the whole lists directory? lists.old too?
[02:47] <Speiros> Ben64 "Package operation Failed"
[02:47] <TJ-> Renodef: Before you do that ... do this
[02:47] <TJ-> Renodef: "for r in /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release; do if ! gpgv --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg $r.gpg $r; then echo "error: $? Problem with $r"; fi; done"
[02:48] <Ben64> Speiros: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/unetbootin
[02:48] <TJ-> Renodef: That will check the gpg signatures of the Release files.... any errors it's say "error: X Problem with ...."
[02:48] <Speiros> Ben64 "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'Owner'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
[02:48] <jcrza> Do you guys know if the newest macbook air's hardware will work with ubuntu?
[02:48] <Ben64> Speiros: i have no idea what you're doing
[02:49] <Bashing-om> TJ: That's pretty slick !
[02:49] <Speiros> Ben64 I just went to Ubuntu Software Centre and clicked "install".  The irony is that it says it's installed, although I know it isn't.
[02:50] <Ben64> try running it then
[02:50] <thom_r> speiros, try using the terminal
[02:50] <thom_r> if you know the program is not installed, install it from the terminal
[02:50] <Renodef> TJ- , Bashing-om : Alright... another paste-bin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666332/
[02:50] <Speiros> Ben64 It won't open.  This problem's an extension of the other one.
[02:51] <Speiros> thom_r What command would I use to install it?
[02:51] <Ben64> define "won't open"
[02:51] <thom_r> sudo apt-get install (name of program)
[02:51] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, now we're making progress! Show us "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/"
[02:51] <TJ-> Renodef: And for good measure, do "df" and check that the device hosting /var/ has more than 5% free space!
[02:52] <thom_r> Speiros, for example to install Cmatrix it would be sudo apt-get install cmatrix
[02:53] <Speiros> Ben64 Sorry, it did open.  I will give it a go and see if it works.  I downloaded another program, and when it came to using it it gave me the same errors.  Still, I'll try it, as I hope I'm wrong.
[02:53] <Renodef> TJ- haha.. as you say: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666336/
[02:53] <feneco> any way to make unity dash faster to run?
[02:54] <Speiros> thom_r Thanks for that.  If this doesn't work, I'll try that.
[02:54] <feneco> here is so slow, like 5 FPS, im running i3/4gb ram/hd3000
[02:55] <TJ-> Renodef: does "df" show there's plenty of space?
[02:55] <TJ-> Renodef: We're seeing that the gpg files aren't being fetched for some reason
[02:56] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. None of my drives/partitions are 95% used.. Although.. how much space are you looking for? This laptop's pretty old.. so 5% as a rule of thumb may not be enough...especially with the partition.
[02:57] <Speiros> Ben64 So far so good, yet it only showed the 10.4 version, but I'll give it a go anyway, as I might be able to fix the other errors with a "disk"
[02:57] <Speiros> Ben64 thom_r Thanks guys.  I'll be back on in a few minutes after a reboot to see if it worked or not.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  TJ: Something stinks big time, I ran the code and all my keys; "gpgv: Good signature" none of that "could not open file" nonsense.
[02:59] <TJ-> Renodef: 'root' user can use 100% of a file-system but no-root users get stopped when the drive hits 95% full... in order for the admin to be able to log-in as 'root' and fix it.
[02:59] <sjd_zeus> feneco, mabe u can closed dash online search
[03:00] <TJ-> Renodef: So I think you're OK on space... so we can focus on why apt-get is fetching the .gpg files but they're not getting written to /var/lib/apt/lists/
[03:00] <Renodef> TJ- Aaj.. cool. #TIL
[03:00] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : So delete the entirety of lists and lists.old?
[03:01] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial"
[03:02] <TJ-> Renodef: Then "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | tee /tmp/update.log && pastebinit /tmp/update.log"
[03:03] <airtonix> why does npm install -g something require sudo?!?!
[03:04] <Speiros> Ben64 No mate.  It didn't work.
[03:04] <Renodef> TJ- wait.. pastebinit is a command? lol
[03:04] <TJ-> Renodef: It is if you've got it installed! Otherwise, you'll have to drop that bit and do it manually
[03:05] <Speiros> Ben64 I think the key to my problems might be the comment on terminal, which is ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'Owner'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[03:05] <Speiros> I think this is ALL my problems combined.
[03:09] <mariozx> Hello every body!
[03:09] <Renodef> TJ- Done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666377/
[03:09] <mariozx> I'm have a question at here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/397965/can-ubuntu-13-10-be-installed-on-toshiba-c840-wifi-realtek-rtl8723ae
[03:09] <mobi323> How do I stop all the "joined" and "left" messages?
[03:09] <Speiros> Yes, this is my problem, but I don't know how to fix.  I have two passwords, one for ring, and one for sudo.  Is this normal?  I know them both.
[03:09] <mariozx> please help me! Thank you!
[03:10] <Ben64> Speiros: how did it "not work"
[03:10] <Speiros> Ben64 It didn't boot from the external drive.
[03:10] <Speiros> Ben64 it defaulted back to the hard drive
[03:10] <Ben64> did you tell it to boot from the external?
[03:11] <Ben64> you have to set boot order in bios
[03:11] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om - The interesting bit is.. now one of the keys which was throwing up an error earlier (16126D3A3E5C1192) isn't doing so anymore.
[03:11] <Speiros> Ben64 it started off, but then a series of 000's (heaps of them) very quickly scrolled up the screen, then it reverted to the hard drive
[03:11] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, so it fetches the gpg keys... but later can't find them in "/var/lib/apt/lists/" ... which suggests it has a problem either writing to that directory, or is trying and failing to use a temporary location
[03:11] <TJ-> Renodef: Show us "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/" now
[03:12] <Speiros> Ben64 When I pressed f9, it gave me the option of which drive to open.  I chose the USB drive.  I also tried the "diskette", which I believe is my phone I tether off, just in case.
[03:12] <Ben64> Speiros: perhaps you didn't use unetbootin correctly, did you choose the 12.04 iso?
[03:12] <TJ-> Renodef: After this, I think we'll run apt-get under 'strace' and see what file operations it is doing
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Renodef: TJ : I have been scratching my head on this one, TJ I am in a learning mode ! .. Agree the key errors have changed from what was initially.
[03:13] <Speiros> Ben64 No, it only went from 6 through to the 10 series.
[03:13] <Ben64> thats why i said "choose" ...
[03:13] <Ben64> you need to use the 12.04 iso
[03:14] <Speiros> Ben64 I can't select an option that isn't available to me.  It goes from the 6 series only through the 10 series, in way of a drop-down list.
[03:14] <Ben64> CHOOSE the iso
[03:15] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : Pastebin Number <drumroll> NINE </drumroll> : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666390/
[03:15] <TJ-> Renodef: Bashing-om I think we're now close to fixing it... looking at the apt-get errors its now a problem with a 'dead' key-server in the key-server list, so we'll track that down... and that should be it
[03:16] <mariozx> I'm have a question at here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/397965/can-ubuntu-13-10-be-installed-on-toshiba-c840-wifi-realtek-rtl8723ae
[03:16] <mariozx> please help me!, Thank you!
[03:16] <Speiros> Ben64 It is like I have a version and the computer doesn't want me to change any settings on it.  I believe it is a command above sudo.  Is there such a command?
[03:17] <TJ-> Renodef: Do you have pastebinit installed?
[03:17] <Ben64> Speiros: i have no idea what you are referring to. unetbootin does let you choose your own iso, any iso. pick the 12.04 iso
[03:18] <acovrig> I am trying to get an openvpn instance working, I can ping the server *.1 from my client, but can't ping my client *.5 from the server, any ideas why?
[03:18] <Renodef> TJ- : nope.. Won't sudo apt-get install pastebinit prompt a "this package could not be authenticated... you still want to continue?" message?
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, do this: "wget http://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_1.3-2ubuntu2.1_all.deb"
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: Then do "sudo dpkg -i pastebinit_1.3-2ubuntu2.1_all.deb"
[03:18] <Speiros> Ben64 I just downloaded unetbootin, and the only options it offers me are between 6.06 and 10.04 Live
[03:18] <Ben64> Speiros: it does give you an option to provide your own iso.
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: Then test it with "echo "Boo!" | pastebinit
[03:19] <TJ-> Renodef: Then test it with "  echo "Boo!" | pastebinit "
[03:19] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay.  So I select Custom then?
[03:19] <TJ-> Renodef: You'll need to correct my typo in the wget URL ... too many "http://"
[03:20] <Ben64> Speiros: i cannot see your screen, you'll have to figure it out. unetbootin is not very complicated
[03:20] <gdi2k> hi, I need to copy an app's config directory to all user's home directories on a server. I thought I could use cp -r mydir /home/*/.config/ but it doesn't work, but also exits without error. Where am I going wrong?
[03:21] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. installing. It posts automatically to paste.ubuntu.com, and echoes a URL for me to share?
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: Yes
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: Will speed up our strace capture
[03:21] <Renodef> TJ- oh wait..error during installation.
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: oh drat!   I told you already mate that I don't have that option.  The "options" down the bottom aren't about the distro which I can install.  All I have for those options are the options of choosing which distro I'd like.  I have looked at Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and every other one, and the only options that are there as far as distros for Ubuntu go are between 6.06 and 10.04.  Thanks for your help
[03:22] <Speiros> anyway mate.  You are right, you can't see my screen.   I deleted multiple of them like that with rm so I figured I could copy multiple of them like that too...
[03:23] <TJ-> Renodef: "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/configobj/python-configobj_4.7.2+ds-3build1_all.deb"
[03:23] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo dpkg -i python-configobj_4.7.2+ds-3build1_all.deb"
[03:24] <Speiros> Ben64 I do genuinely appreciate your help.  Still, my only options are these ones.  Distro up top (no options other than the drop-down lists), Diskimage, Custom (gives Kernel, Initrd and Options), Show all Drives (gives Type, Drive).  That is all the options I have.
[03:24] <Dreamer3> how can i tell mysql not to start at boot?
[03:24] <Ben64> Speiros: disk image!
[03:24] <TJ-> Dreamer3: See "man update-rc.d"
[03:24] <Speiros> Ben64 Aaaahh, okay...
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 And from this I highlight the one on my drive?
[03:25] <Renodef> TJ- : haha.. beat me to the URL. OK.. pastebinit is installed now.
[03:25] <Ben64> Speiros: the 12.04 iso, yes
[03:25] <TJ-> Dreamer3: Or, if mysqld uses an Upstart job, you'll need to rename it "ls -l /etc/init/mysql*" to stop it running at boot time
[03:25] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, lets go for an strace then.
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks.  I see where you're coming from.  Thanks for your patience.
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay, I'll give it a go.
[03:26] <Dreamer3> TJ-: yep this is upstart
[03:26] <Dreamer3> TJ-: can i put it in /etc/init/disabled/ or is that upstart scanning recursive?
[03:26] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo strace -o /tmp/apt-get.strace.log -f -e trace=file apt-get update && pastebinit /tmp/apt-get.strace.log"
[03:27] <TJ-> Dreamer3: You could move it, yes
[03:27] <Dreamer3> ok :)
[03:27] <TJ-> Dreamer3: I forget whether 'init' will recurse directories, but I'm guessing not else someone would have been using that option
[03:27] <Dreamer3> lets give that a shot
[03:28] <Dreamer3> TJ-: the man page for upstart explicitly says init/*.conf not **
[03:28] <Dreamer3> if you can count on that
[03:28] <TJ-> Dreamer3: Yeah, I know they have to be ".conf" which is why I recommended a rename, but your plan is more elegant
[03:29] <dlfaial> Hey guys..
[03:29] <Renodef> TJ-: And here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666454/
[03:29] <lickalott> YO YO!!
[03:30] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay. I'll try again mate.  Thanks.
[03:30] <glitsj16> Dreamer3: sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/mysql.override" is the recommended upstart routine so it doesn't start automatically, just remove that file if you want to return to auto-starting again ... by renaming/relocating it you won't be able to start mysql manually if you need to
[03:31] <Dreamer3> oh nice
[03:31] <lickalott> hey guys, having an issue with vsftpd.  For some reason I can't get in from outside the local network.  the port is forwarded in my router (i changed it in the .conf) but it's not working.  I can do it all day long using the internal address.  Does vsftpd not like a non-default port setting?
[03:32] <harrisr> hi i installed pipelight in order to watch netflix but when i got to about:plugins in firefox under pipelight it says Pipelight Error (silverlight5.1)!
[03:32] <Dreamer3> guess i can resize the ram and disk while pastie is down :(
[03:32] <TJ-> glitsj16: Good point... I was reading about that a couple days ago but forgot entirely!
[03:32] <dlfaial> cedar trail gpu trouble here..
[03:32] <lickalott> I get this (from filezilla) Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[03:33] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, can you show me "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/partial | pastebinit"
[03:34] <daftykins> lickalott: FTP requires more than just port 21, it requires a data range too. are you sure you've done this?
[03:34] <glitsj16> TJ-: only picked that up from the upstart cookbook a few days ago myself, easy & nice
[03:34] <lickalott> forwarded in the router daftykins?
[03:35] <Renodef> TJ- : "OK" ??!! 4k+ lines lol. You realise...at this point you might as well be a witch doctor, and me a pre-allopathy man-with-a-malaise right? :D Anyway.. here's the ls -al http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666483/
[03:35] <daftykins> lickalott: yep
[03:35] <daftykins> lickalott: although are you sure it's confirmed as open?
[03:36] <lickalott> no I haven't done that....  what do i need to set (how many)?  like 2-3 ports?
[03:36] <lickalott> it's a non-standard port so i'm assuming so.  I set it in the .conf and set it in the forwarding portion of the router.
[03:37] <TJ-> Renodef: Bashing-om: haha, so we've found them in the partial directory... but they didn't get moved apparently
[03:37] <harrisr> hi i installed pipelight in order to watch netflix but when i got to about:plugins in firefox under pipelight it says Pipelight Error (silverlight5.1)!
[03:37] <Speiros> Hello again folks.
[03:38] <Speiros> Ben64  It didn't start once again.
[03:38] <Speiros> Ben64 Maybe I need to give up on installing it, and work on fixing this version first on my computer.
[03:39] <asdfgh> is there a gnome2 ppa for ubuntu 13.10?
[03:39] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : so manually move it to the lists folder? Or is there something else?
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> hey all. just a quick one.... there are 2 commands to add a user right?
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> useradd and adduser ???
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> which one gives you options after you create the account?
[03:40] <Speiros> Ben64 Seriously, my hands have been tied for way too long with this problem.  I've been getting to different stages only to get let down when it comes to the application of any of them, and I can't.  I believe it's my databases, and the passwords.
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> to set fodlers, etc??
[03:40] <TJ-> Renodef: No, we need to find out *why* it is failing... I'm still trawling through the strace log line by line
[03:40] <Ben64> Speiros: use a different computer to burn the iso to a disc
[03:40] <lickalott> heh... daftykins, looks like it IS being used by another process.
[03:41]  * lickalott facepalms
[03:41] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks anyway mate.  I can't keep on working on it.  I believe it's this version and the errors that are stopping everything else from working properly.
[03:42] <daftykins> lickalott: doh!
[03:42] <Ben64> Speiros: burning from a different computer is the simplest solution
[03:42] <TJ-> Renodef: I found this: looks like what we should expect for all '.gpg' files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666497/
[03:42] <lickalott> first time I've ever randomly picked numbers and they were used....  LOL
[03:42] <Pici> MartynKeigher: Neither of them. adduser will ask for some extra information, but iirc home directory is not one of them, you would need to use a separate argument to override the default.
[03:43] <hkr> Hi people!
[03:43] <eyesec> Hello!!
[03:43] <Speiros> Ben64 Since smashing the laptop for exactly the same reason, I don't have that option.  You'll have to take my word for it, that it didn't work.  The laptop no longer is a point of my frustration.  It is this version 10.4, and it's something that's happened that is stopping me from being able to fix or change important stuff.
[03:43] <hkr> Is there any way to use dolphin as the desktop file manager in xubuntu ?
[03:44] <wazer> Hello all!
[03:44] <Ben64> Speiros: i don't know how 10.04 is stopping you from using another computer to burn 12.04, but ok
[03:44] <wazer> I have an interesting linux question... I was wondering if anyone here might know the answer to.
[03:44] <Speiros> Ben64 I was using the lappy with THIS computer, and two others, back in 2010 trying to get things working, then again in 2012, just on a year ago.  After the laptop release of pent up madness and rage, I punched it, ripped it in half and threw it in the bin.  I felt great.
[03:45] <Renodef> TJ- Right. Don't get what the chmod system call is doing there. As in what 0644 corresponds to. And why is it renaming it in order to move it?
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hkr: have you tried it? have you tried typing dolphin on the command line?
[03:45] <wazer> Ok so very basic example.. we have a text file file.txt and that file contains the text 123.  If I cat file.txt I see 123.  Like I said very basic.
[03:45] <eyesec> hkr: have you read?? ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993795
[03:45] <hkr> yes.
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hkr: nad?
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hrk and?
[03:45] <TJ-> Renodef: "mv" is just a rename ... the chmod is ensuring it has rw-r--r-- permissions
[03:45] <hkr> the desktop still uses thunar
[03:46] <whatisthematrix> hkr: what happened?
[03:46] <eyesec> there seem to be a few people trying, I haven't read the entire thread. hopefully there's something useful in there
[03:46] <TJ-> Renodef: Can you "pastebinit /etc/apt/trusted.gpg"
[03:46] <wazer> What if I want to dynamically generate what is in the file?  So instead of the text file containing 123 I want to do something like cat file.txt and when this happens I want file.txt to come back with the result of a command such as echo 123 instead of the static text.
[03:46] <hkr> I can set dolphin as default but I need thunar to do stuff in the desktop. Its xubuntu saucy
[03:46] <wazer> similar to what we get if we run echo 123 | cat
[03:47] <Renodef> TJ- Yup.. here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666506/
[03:47] <glitsj16> Speiros: you posted something earlier about an error 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: yes) .. which smells like a mysql error afaik .. no clue how that intervenes with trying to make a bootable usb or using unetbootin, but it might suggest a starting point to get working on your other issues ... just a thought, and goodluck
[03:47] <whatisthematrix> hkr: okay. so you're saying that dolphin did not start up from the command line?
[03:47] <jeffrey_f> wazer: What do you need to know.  Yes, that is what you should see.  What are you trying to do?
[03:47] <hkr> no
[03:47] <hkr> it did
[03:48] <wazer> so I want to do something like the following
[03:48] <hkr> but my desktop uses thunar
[03:48] <wazer> cat file.txt <--- I want this to return the output of a command instead of an actual flat file
[03:48] <hkr> suppose I create a new folder, it says it needs thunar to do so
[03:48] <whatisthematrix> hkr: oh.. okay. yeah, you'll want to leave thunar as the desktop file manager. but since dolphin did start from the command line, could you not use it?
[03:49] <Speiros> glitsj16 Thanks.  Yes, it might be.  Do you have any idea how I can fix it?  I tried the command to change the password, but it didn't work either.
[03:49] <wazer> reason being... I need to pass a "text file" into another program as an argument... I don't really want to store that as a text file... I want it to run a command
[03:49] <MartynKeigher> thank you Pici !
[03:49] <wazer> but I need the program to think it is just getting it from a text file
[03:49] <hkr> eyesec
[03:49] <hkr> that didnt help me at all
[03:49] <eyesec> umm okay, sorry?
[03:49] <TJ-> Renodef: ahhh darn, I forgot it isn't text... try this instead "hexdump -C /etc/apt/trusted.gpg | pastebinit"
[03:49] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks for your time and energy mate.  I know it's frustrating.  Very frustrating.  So thanks for your part with MY problem.:)
[03:50] <glitsj16> Speiros: not exactly no, better seek help from a mysql helper on that, been years since i've touched sql databases sorry
[03:50] <jeffrey_f> wazer: So you want the ouput of a command to be the input to another program?
[03:50] <whatisthematrix> hkr: yeah, i really don't think you'll want to use dolphin as the default/desktop file manager in xfce. sorry, for some reason i didn't catch that in your original post. i just thought you wanted to use dolphin in xubuntu
[03:51] <wazer> correct but I need the other program who is receiving the output to think it is just getting it from a text file
[03:51] <hkr> okay ._.
[03:51] <wazer> example: myprogram --username wazer --password file.txt
[03:51] <Speiros> glitsj16 Is this the right page to be asking for help with that on?
[03:51] <jeffrey_f> wazer: how do you input to your program now?
[03:51] <wazer> but file.txt (doesn't actually have to be .txt)
[03:51] <wazer> so now it would be
[03:51] <whatisthematrix> hkr: i should say that i don't think you'll want to set it, as the default in xfce. maybe someone else would know if that's possible.
[03:51] <wazer> just as my example above you can pass in a filename
[03:52] <Renodef> TJ - here you go :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/
[03:52] <wazer> and it will load the password out of that file
[03:52] <hkr> Its not possible. only thing i hate about xfce
[03:52] <wazer> obviously I don't really want to store the password in the file
[03:52] <glitsj16> Speiros: try, people will point to other channels if they think it to be inappropriate :)
[03:52] <wazer> so I would prefer to execute a command that will get the password
[03:52] <whatisthematrix> hkr: to handle the desktop i mean
[03:52] <Speiros> glitsj16 Thanks
[03:52] <hkr> everything else is almost perfect... i get it
[03:52] <Speiros> Okay, how do I word this...
[03:53] <jeffrey_f> wazer:  CommandOrProgramOutputting | CommandOrProgramInput
[03:53] <whatisthematrix> hkr: ask the original question again and see if anyone know. good luck
[03:53] <wazer> hrrmm so you think it would work something like my example above?... piping it over?
[03:54] <hkr> nah ... ill try other DEs
[03:54] <wazer> example: ./decrypt_my_pass | myprogram --username wazer --password ?? what goes here
[03:54] <whatisthematrix> hkr: okay, roger that. good idea i think
[03:54] <Speiros> I have a problem with my computer giving me access to add/remove or edit programs.  I have sudo permissions, and I have the ring password too.  They are different.  The sudo password was changed.  Also there is another factor that I don't know is related, but might be, in that my home file isn't called home, but the path shows it as a file above the one that comes up when I go to "home"
[03:55] <wazer> jeffrey_f: I apprecaite your input on this..!
[03:55] <wazer> appreciate rather*
[03:56] <jeffrey_f> wazer: Unless you want to do something with the sedondary output, you could just capture it to a file:  CommandOrProgramOutputting | CommandOrProgramInput > CaptureFile.txt
[03:56] <wazer> hmmm it isn't that though
[03:56] <wazer> I want to avoid storing the password in a file
[03:57] <jeffrey_f> wazer:  you can grep for keywords in the output and store that too
[03:57] <Renodef> dammit... I typoed your irc name... here's the pastebin you asked for TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/ (hexdump)
[03:59] <TJ-> Renodef: I got it earlier; thanks. It confirms that the contents of the file look OK but I'm cross-checking it right now
[03:59] <davidrsmorris> Hey, I'm trying to set my arrow keys so that with some other key pressed down they'll send pgup/pgdown/home/end.  That won't get sent with shift+arrow when I apply a .xmodmap with the appropriate keysym in the second field.  Does anyone have experience with this?
[04:02] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo apt-key list | pastebinit"
[04:02] <Guest16082> kj
[04:04] <Guest16082> s
[04:07] <peyam> Hej
[04:07] <nightdemon666> Can any one guide me to a channel here on the freenode server that supports wireless network 802.11 pentesting?
[04:07] <peyam> ##hardware
[04:08] <nightdemon666> Is that answer for me?
[04:08] <peyam> Does anybody know if the values here are normal. isn't conkt too high? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666557/
[04:08] <peyam> yes
[04:09] <Renodef> TJ- here's sudo apt-key list | pastebinit - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/
[04:09] <nightdemon666> What does the '##' mean before channels? Most just have one '#'
[04:09] <peyam> the same
[04:09] <peyam> just try it
[04:09] <Renodef> TJ- sorry.. that was the earlier link. here..http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666565/
[04:10] <SeanJohn85> Hello
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> I bought a new Toshiba Satellite With Win 8.1 and touch screen.. Was very hard to get the installer to run.. kept getting a black screen when X started no matter wht mode I set at boot. But the minimal net installer seemed to work.
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> Now I just have no WiFi
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> Thinking its a friver issue
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> I have no wy to wire the laptop
[04:13] <peyam> SeanJohn85, Update the distro with wired and then it will apear in Software source
[04:13] <peyam> Then use the USB stick
[04:13] <SeanJohn85> I can't wire it
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> peyam.. what will appear?
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> The wireless driver?
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> or wrapper?
[04:14] <peyam> when you update the distro it will apear a " drivers" in ur software source> additional drivers
[04:14] <peyam> the driver. you dont have the drive installed
[04:14] <TJ-> Renodef: I just lost connection so if you posted anything, can you resend?
[04:15] <SeanJohn85> Can I download it in windows and transfer it to the partition.. I have setup EXT3 r/w from windows
[04:15] <MrJerome> I keep getting "system problem detected" after logging in. How can I diagnose the problem?
[04:15] <SeanJohn85> Cause I have no way to get a wired connection right now
[04:15] <Renodef> yeah.. my last was this pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666565/  (they keys)
[04:15] <Renodef> (@ TJ-)
[04:15] <peyam> wouldnt be so good. never tried it
[04:16] <nightdemon666> Whoa whoa whoa seanjohn... hold up here, FIRST, what wireless chipset is in that thing?
[04:16] <peyam> SeanJohn85, Use the usb stick. you can choose to install drivers from that
[04:16] <TJ-> Renodef: I think you missed my last 2 messages then...:
[04:16] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, try this: "sudo apt-key update 2>&1 | tee /tmp/apt-key-update.log && pastebinit /tmp/apt-key-update.log"
[04:16] <TJ-> Renode, then redo the earlier command to see if any keys have changed: "sudo apt-key list | pastebinit"
[04:17] <nightdemon666> You need to do an lspci command and you may even grep out the "wireless" word to output just the wireless card in your laptop.
[04:18] <ZestyFT> SeanJohn, are you having trouble with Broadcomm drivers?
[04:18] <nightdemon666> Thats what im trying to figure out too...
[04:18] <nightdemon666> We need to find out whats under the hood first zesty
[04:19] <ryoungs66> Anyone on familiar with setting up samba?
[04:19] <Renodef> TJ- In order, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666600/, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666606/
[04:19] <nightdemon666> I sure am :-)
[04:19] <stewieY> Anyone know how to make it stop spamming whenever anyone connects or leaves the channel?
[04:19] <nightdemon666> Ryoung
[04:20] <peyam> I used the cd /usb sitck for getting the drives ones! it worked very good
[04:20] <nightdemon666> What do you want to know about it ryoungs
[04:20] <nightdemon666> Peyem what usb stick are you using with drivers on it?
[04:21] <ryoungs66> I setup a brand new ubuntu install, I installed samba and samba-common.  I have a windows 7 server that I can connect to via another windows 7 and via smb on my wii.
[04:21] <ryoungs66> However, when I try to connect from ubuntu, it doesn't ask for a username/password and just automatically declines access
[04:22] <nightdemon666> Um,are you just trying to access a smb share on your windows 7 machine from an ubuntu machine? Or are you trying to set up another smb share on ubuntu for other machines to connect to via smb?
[04:22] <ryoungs66> The first one
[04:23] <ryoungs66> I can see the shared folders when I open the ip address, but no dice on accessing them
[04:25] <TJ-> Renodef: server dropped again; if you messaged me in the last 2 minutes, repeat :)
[04:25] <Ben64> ryoungs66: you probably have to enter your windows username and password to access the shares
[04:25] <nightdemon666> Then what you do when you connect to the smb share on your windows 7 machine (first of all, you dont need samba to do this) is to specify the user name and password to the smb share and path to the smb share via ubuntu. The "connect to server" option should be available in ubuntu, and give you such options. If you were using kde, you would just type<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the dolphin file browser, but in nautilus i d
[04:27] <Bashing-om> TJ; Renodef's last :  In order, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666600/, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666606/
[04:27] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Thanks, I have those ... waiting for Renodef to confirm if the Google key is there now
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Yes and what ben64 said is also true. You must access the share via the credentials allowed to access the share, likely the admin account for the windows 7 machine,and possibly any other user you allowed access from the windows 7 machine.
[04:28] <ryoungs66> "Connect to server" doesn't give me any options for entering usernames or passwords
[04:28] <ejaun> hey bros i have a 3TB hard drive, so i have it in GPT, but grub wont install. from googing i see i need a partition at the beginning of the drive marked as bios_grub/EF02 is this possible to do from the net install?
[04:28] <Renodef> Bashing-om TJ- in the key list? That's the 606 paste..
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Select windows share
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Ryoungs
[04:28] <ryoungs66> doesn't seem to have that either.
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: nope, I think you missed my last request. I assumed it had got through...
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: We're almost there I think ... one more key to restore
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A040830F7FAC5991"  ... that should import the "Google Inc. Linux Package Signing Key" ... check afterwards with "apt-key list | grep Google" and tell me it if is there, or not
[04:29] <nightdemon666> That option should be available in a drop down menu ryoungs
[04:30] <nightdemon666> Youhave more than ine option. Windows share, ssh, etc...
[04:31] <nightdemon666> And what version on ubuntu are you running ryoungs?
[04:31] <ryoungs66> I'm using the default "files" icon, should I be using something else? Also, when I hit connect to server it shows a recent list, in there it says windows share
[04:31] <ryoungs66> The latest
[04:31] <tonito> FRIENDS
[04:31] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : the key's there
[04:31] <tonito> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WINE
[04:32] <Renodef> TJ- Bashin-om : but during the key request.. it STILL says no ultimately trusted keys found
[04:32] <athene_noctua> Me too . . .
[04:32]  * athene_noctua glug glug glug
[04:33] <jeffrey_f> tonito?  what is the problem?  (My bottle is empty here...Just sayin)
[04:33] <TJ-> Renodef: OK... let's try an update then "sudo apt-get update"
[04:34] <cppmaniac> tonito: your problem IS WINE!
[04:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: TJ has the ball. let's await him to advise to "update" and what the "untrusted" means .. NM .. TJ got it !
[04:35] <nightdemon666> Well, i believe, i remember that you connect to servers from the desktop on the top bar. You should be able to select more than one server when you select the "connect to server" option. You should be able to select windows share as an option, and enter your user name and password and path to share to connect.
[04:35] <Renodef> Bashing-om Well well TJ- DID get it!
[04:35] <nightdemon666> But remember that the user name MUST be an applicable user to the share, and the password for that user.
[04:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om TJ- sudo apt-get update didn't return any errors this time! But..but.. HOW?
[04:37] <Bashing-om> TJ: Renodef: Yeah, inquirung minds want to know.
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tonito: Just ask the question.
[04:38] <ryoungs66> nightdemon666 - http://askubuntu.com/questions/289705/ubuntu-13-04-any-way-to-restore-connect-to-windows-share-as-a-different-user
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tonito: You may get better help in #winehq
[04:38] <ryoungs66> Apparentely I'm not the only one :)
[04:39] <tonito> nothing responsed :(
[04:39] <TJ-> Renodef: grrr, the IRC server lost it again . So... your system is OK again now?
[04:39] <cppmaniac> tonito: what's your problem?
[04:39] <tonito> no one answers
[04:39] <Renodef> TJ- yeah! But both Bashing-om and I want to know HOW?
[04:40] <TJ-> Renodef: First we cleared out corrupt files from "/var/lib/apt/lists" then we identified which keys were missing from "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg" and we updated it from the ubuntu-keyrings file, and then added the Google key
[04:40] <tonito> the problem is with the install gameranger as indicated on the website of wine but the cursor does not create anything puiedo host or enter the halls
[04:41] <cppmaniac> tonito: do you try playonlinux?
[04:41] <cr4p> aloha
[04:42] <tonito> nou
[04:42] <tonito> i go try
[04:42] <Renodef> TJ- but I thought you wanted to figure out why they weren't getting moved from lists/partial to /lists ? Did you? cc Bashing-om
[04:42] <cppmaniac> tonito: just a tip.  Use a VM and be happy!
[04:42] <nightdemon666> Yeah... it appears ubuntu programmers broke what they werent suppose to, and was working just fine. I assume you upgraded. If you could, may you please attempt to connect to smb share via nautilus by typing smb://user@ipaddress/share
[04:42] <nightdemon666> Thanks :-)
[04:42] <Ben64> !appdb | tonito
[04:43] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om After all this, update manager now says the package info was just updated..and there are no updates. lol. 6 days without updates is a first.
[04:43] <TJ-> Renodef: They couldn't be verified because the most senior key of all was missing
[04:43] <TJ-> Renodef: Being Precise LTS that isn't too surprising especially over the winter holiday break
[04:45] <Bashing-om> TJ; As I live and learn, did know know there WAS a hierarchy !
[04:45] <tonito> as I can install games from a virtual machine?
[04:45] <cppmaniac> tonito: the same way you install on windows xp
[04:45] <ryoungs66> nightdemon666, thank you so much, I figured it out now
[04:46] <tonito> a ok thanks a lot guys (y)
[04:46] <cppmaniac> tonito: install VirtualBox on Ubuntu Software Center
[04:46] <tonito> thanks! (Y)
[04:46] <Renodef> TJ- ah. I still don't understand the last part of what you did though. i.e. 1) Downloaded the A040... (Google Linux Package signing key) using the recv-leys command 2) THIS still told me that no ultimately trusted keys were found 3) Yet somehow running update manager after this worked.
[04:46] <cppmaniac> tonito: you're welcome
[04:46] <asl35mca> hi
[04:47] <TJ-> Renodef: "The Warning: "no ultimately trusted keys found" means that gpg was not configured to ultimately trust a specific key. Trust settings are part of OpenPGPs Web-of-Trust which does not apply here. So there is no problem with this warning."
[04:47] <asl35mca> does ubuntu support touch screens?
[04:48] <TJ-> Renodef: The critical step was "sudo apt-key update" which fixed the missing Ubuntu key. The Google key was a side-show really.
[04:48] <cppmaniac> asl35mca: yep
[04:48] <nightdemon666> ryoungs66 what did you do to figure it out? Just curious?
[04:49] <Renodef> TJ- oh wait..yeah.. I assumed you'd asked me to run sudo apt-get update after the google sideshow (as you put it). but it was actually sudo apt-KEY update.
[04:49] <ryoungs66> Not only do you have to put "username@servername" but you also have to include the share name, ie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:51] <Guest93315> i m getting "qemu: Unsupported system call:184" lines after running almost every command on chroot using qemu-arm-static emulator. What does that mean?
[04:53] <Renodef> TJ- ok..now going back through bash history I realise when it was done. Cool. :) So you also said something about the most senior key not being available... does that mean that once this seniormost key is added to trusted.gpg -> the subsequent keys will end up being identified as ultimately trusted?
[04:55] <TJ-> Renodef: No, as I said, web-of-trust isn't used so that warning can be safely ignored. The missing Ubuntu key (437D05B5) is the original Ubuntu signing key and that was the one that most Release files were missing... the only other missing was the Google key for its own repo
[04:56]  * zh1 http://youtu.be/7vaVtvpaDoQ
[04:57] <Renodef> TJ- ok..so if I (finally get it) each package's key needs both its specific package key as well as the ubuntu signing key in order to get a good signature? (and Google... needs a google products wide key for its own repo, I assume the ubuntu key, as well as the individual google product key)
[04:59] <nightdemon666> ryoungs right, or what ever your share name is. If it happens to be "users" thats just the way you named the share or "directory" which is essentially what you are "sharing" in the future, please understand that SAMBA is a server application for unix like systems to basically emulate an smb protocol file system access. Like ftp. Just smb instead. You ONLY would need SAMBA if you plan on hosting an smb protocol filesyste
[05:03] <TJ-> Renodef: The "*Releases" file for each archive pocket contain MD5sums of other files. To guarantee the MD5sums have not be compromised, the Release file is cryptographically signed using the archive private key and a detached signature (the *Release.gpg files) generated. "apt-get update" fetches the Releases and Releases.gpg files, and then verifies the Releases file against the Releases.gpg signature, from the public half of the signing key stored in /etc/apt/tru
[05:03] <TJ-> sted.gpg
[05:03] <ryoungs66> Ok, thanks mate
[05:03] <nightdemon666> :-)
[05:04] <jimmy__> Need some boot help for 12.04.03
[05:07] <Bashing-om> TJ: You have added to my store of knowledge, thanks !
[05:08] <nightdemon666> ryoungs, but now that you have samba installed, you may now host an smb share from your ubuntu machine :-) i do that to host my movies and tv shows, and other access needs to windows pc's and works great. I can control access and users and all :-) my wife and child can access what they want, given they have the appropriate rights privileges to access. All day long :-) and of course i control all of this via ssh from my
[05:10] <Renodef> TJ- concur with Bashing-om... Thanks for all the help guys!
[05:10] <ryoungs66> Yea, I'm going to setup a samba sharing machine
[05:10] <lickalott> okay, next question...  has anyone successfully gotten ssh AND sftp to work with the same user?
[05:10] <ryoungs66> I looked into a nas, but they are ridiculously expensive
[05:11] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Sure pur a smile on my face !
[05:11] <xomrk> Is site http://ogame.sub.cat/ works to you ?
[05:16] <nightdemon666> ryoungs, ill make sure i pass on the knowledge that what is mostly expensive is convenience, not product. I went to costco today and saw a chromebook. You think im gonna spend money on a chromebook when i can download the open source version over the net? No. What about expensive routers?  Ill get in eventually :-D watch! Now ill get kicked for that one :-D
[05:20] <analyser0013> wuld eclipse be able to run java programs for ubuntu 12.04
[05:21] <ryoungs66> lol
[05:21] <analyser0013> :(
[05:21] <ryoungs66> cracking mine is probably not that hard, but I've got nothing you can't get from netflix :)
[05:24] <nightdemon666> ryoungs66 i agree with you. Nas is as good as you make it. And with protocol and port restrictions, you can make it pretty damn difficult to crack. Could take life times. So host your shares via sftp, NOT samba to what ever you please, and make it difficult as shit for whom ever attempts to break in. >:-D
[05:24] <tbo> morning, I have a little problem with Ubuntu 13.10 and a eeePC with an intel 5300 wifi card, it loses contact or can't connect to any host after a while or high load
[05:25] <ryoungs66> will sftp allow me to play media without transferring it first?
[05:26] <elmalafacha> can someone  help me to install ubuntu 13.10 with an ssd and hdd, how can I do the partition, PLEASE!
[05:26] <nightdemon666> Yes ryoungs66 but it seems to be slower. Likely cuz the encryption. Inside network its not bad, but over internet, worst ever :-(
[05:29] <ryoungs66> Gotcha, I'll check it out.  Biggest problem I face is making it easy enough that my wife can access it too.
[05:31] <him-cesjf> Hey! If Im logged in as user suki and pwd returns /home/suki, should running command - sudo chown -Rv suki:suki . - do any harm?
[05:31] <SetiAmon> Hey is there a way to increase the  button size.like close/minimize/maximize buttons.they look awefully small on my display\
[05:33] <saruman_> hi
[05:33] <sun> sun
[05:33] <saruman_> my headphones have mysteriously stopped working, could someone help me find the issue ?
[05:33] <saruman_> the driver in the gui updates when i plug them in
[05:34] <saruman_> but the sound goes away, the internal speakers still work however
[05:34] <saruman_> oh and the headphones are good they work on another device
[05:34] <nightdemon666> ryoung66 the easiest way to make your media shares accessible and easy for your wife is via smb. Just make a windows share as easily as possible via windows, and she can double click what media she wants. If its movies, i strongly suggest vlc media player :-)
[05:35] <ryoungs66> I love vlc
[05:35] <saruman_> nightdemon666: now THAT is a good geeky nick :)
[05:35] <ryoungs66> So much better then WMP
[05:35] <ryoungs66> Just wondering, if I want to share between two linux's, what's the best way?
[05:35] <nightdemon666> Lol, saruman, i just l
[05:36] <saruman_> ryoungs66: ya given the new interface for wmp sucks ass and vlc has alot more features and plays more audio formats
[05:36] <saruman_> nightdemon666: what about you btw, ever seen this issue ? it doesn't make sense that between boots they'd suddenly stop working yet my internal speaker works
[05:36] <nightdemon666> Picked it for this irc server so i could access it.  But i did access irc chats wat back in the 90's ;-)
[05:36] <Guest37367> new play
[05:36] <saruman_> wait a sec lemme check something
[05:36] <ryoungs66> I love that vlc has the ability to increase the sound level so high.  I can't hear my laptop with wmp, but vlc is loud
[05:37] <MrSun> ello
[05:39] <nightdemon666> Yes, ryoungs66 vlc is awesome for that, but i actually really like totem for its simplicity, and the fact that it just works with all the plug-ins and just fine. I actually use totem as my main player :-)
[05:39] <MrSun> what distros are most people using?
[05:40] <Ben64> MrSun: this is #ubuntu, so Ubuntu.
[05:40] <MrSun> Ben64, not necessarily true. im here but on bodhi.
[05:41] <saruman_> grrrrrr
[05:41] <saruman_> still f's up
[05:41] <nightdemon666> Well,i was going to try helping saruman  :-/
[05:41] <Ben64> MrSun: either way polling for distros isn't on topic here. and bodhi isn't supported here either
[05:41] <ryoungs66> I want to write a web service program where the code is the same in windows and linux, what's my best choice for a language?
[05:42] <saruman_> nightdemon666,: please do :(
[05:42] <saruman_> nightdemon666: i tried rebooting without my headphones plugged in, for some reason that seemed worth a try, same symptom
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> ryoungs66: off topic. but pythons pretty OS agnostic
[05:42] <LastArms> I have an ubuntu server running webmin acting as a DHCP server. The clients are able to ping out. I can't ping the clients from the router. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong?
[05:43] <LastArms> route has "<IP_ADDRESS>      *       <IP_ADDRESS>      U      0      0      0     eth1"
[05:43] <saruman_> as beautiful as ubuntu has become,  given the disparity of file locations and options i hope they start adding better configurators for things like sound and modelines soon
[05:43] <nightdemon666> Um, ryoungs66, try html + java + php + css lol!
[05:43] <hitsujiTMO> !webmin
[05:43] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I know it's not supported
[05:43] <saruman_> nightdemon666: so what would you need to help me out ?
[05:44] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I'm sure there's something with the routing that's not passing the ping
[05:44] <LastArms> Webmin is not supported, but it's working. It's basically just a GUI on top of iptables etc
[05:44] <nightdemon666> Saruman
[05:44] <nightdemon666> saruman, is this an hp machine?
[05:44] <Ben64> LastArms: if you know its not supported, why come asking about it here?
[05:44] <LastArms> actually I'm just wondering about the routing table
[05:45] <Ben64> "...is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system."
[05:45] <LastArms> DHCP clients can ping to each other and to the main core router
[05:45] <LastArms> however, the DHCP server can't ping the clients
[05:45] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: webmin makes configs that are incompatable with ubuntu. most likely its caused by some conflict
[05:46] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: sorry, forget about webmin for a second. For my server to ping to a DHCP client connected to my server, do I need the packet to be routed in the routing table?
[05:46] <nightdemon666> LastArms, mare sure that your server excepts pings (imcp)
[05:46] <LastArms> nightdemon666: looking at IP tables, no packets are dropped. I feel that the packet is just going to the wrong place
[05:46] <saruman_> nightdemon666: sorry
[05:47] <saruman_> nightdemon666: oddly enough its an asus lol
[05:47] <LastArms> I have "<IP_ADDRESS>        *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1"
[05:47] <john_doe_jr1> how do I know what devices are associated w/ devices listed in /dev/disk…. ?
[05:48] <LastArms> I would think that that will allow all packets that is going to 10.0.2.* to be routed via eth1
[05:48] <Ben64> john_doe_jr1: try "sudo blkid"
[05:48] <LastArms> but it seems that it's not going there
[05:49] <saruman_> nightdemon666: so nope not an hp
[05:49] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: what ip is the ping coming from?
[05:50] <LastArms> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <LastArms> which is my DHCP server
[05:50] <LastArms> and I want to ping to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <LastArms> which is my DHCP client
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: so looks like it has nothing to do with you routing table then.
[05:50] <nightdemon666> Saruman, it may be sharing the same hardware as an asus though. If had issues with hp computers not liking the built-in speakers but adding external speakers works. Please try that, and see if it works. It could be a hardware compatibility issue, and that can only be fixed via driver software :-)
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: have you setup iptables/ufw?
[05:51] <LastArms> yes
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: what did you set?
[05:51] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I have iptables running. I have logging runing as well
[05:52] <nightdemon666> la
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: does you iptables config allow icmp through?
[05:52] <saruman_> nightdemon666: i'm having the opposite issue, the speakers work, but the headphone jack is muted, however it worked fine this morning, after a few reboots and an ubuntu update they stopped
[05:52] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: in Input all ICMP is allowed
[05:52] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: Forwarding, is allowed in general
[05:53] <nightdemon666> Lastarms, you need to know some of the answers to your own questions. You should NOT be asking what ip address ping are coming from!
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you disable iptables and test the ping then
[05:54] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I tried setting all to accept and it wasn't working... I'll try disabling the whole thing
[05:54] <LastArms> nightdemon666: sorry, did I ask that? I'm pinging from the server which has an address of <IP_ADDRESS> to the client which has an address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:54] <saruman_> nightdemon666: question the file.../usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz does that contain all the modules the kernel can use for sound ?
[05:55] <nightdemon666> Saruman, its probably an config issue then. Did yoy make sure and test with other live systems to make sure they worked as expected
[05:55] <nightdemon666> *expected
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: you mean like a windows installation ? yes.
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: if you mean ubuntu live, then yes and it worked
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: funny thing is i did nothing to the configuration
[05:56] <nightdemon666> No! Absolutely not! We are testing a *nix system, nit a windows system!
[05:59] <nightdemon666> See, theres is a good chance that the code changed and your configuration does not work now. The unfortunate of bleeding edge :-(
[05:59] <samiralajaad> nice name. nightdemon666...
[06:00] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I couldn't find a way to stop iptables, so I reset the whole thing and set it to default (accept all) and it's still not working
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: this is the point where i pull out wireshark to see whats happing with the traffic
[06:02] <LastArms> well... I did logging with iptables, and I saw no traffic...
[06:02] <LastArms> thats why I thought it was the routing table...
[06:03] <pikaren> will ubuntu ever defeat windows in the casual user realm?
[06:03] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: but have you checked from the dhcp server to see if its actually sending out a ping? thats why i use wireshark
[06:04] <LastArms> it pings google just fine...
[06:05] <hypercube32> LastArms, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-start-stop-iptables-service/
[06:06] <LastArms> hypercube32: I did that
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you pastebin the output of: iptables -L
[06:08] <LastArms> http://pastebin.com/fvjCEqWz
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> yup its disabled
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: pastebin output of: ifconfig
[06:09] <LastArms> http://pastebin.com/Vza9R8Tb
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: hmm, dropped looks suspicious:  RX packets:1430001 errors:0 dropped:4294967291 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:12] <LastArms> hrmmmm
[06:13] <LastArms> is there iptables for multiple interfaces?
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: no, its the 1 iptables
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: whats output of: arp
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> may take a while
[06:14] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/WWFjrnZy
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: you dont by anychance have something like a large MTU on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:17] <LastArms> what;s MTU?
[06:17] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: sorry, I just started playing around with networking....
[06:17] <hitsujiTMO> Maximum Transmission Unit ... if you don't know what it is, then most likely you haven't set it
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you pastebin from <IP_ADDRESS>: arp
[06:18] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: yup. Didn't play around with MTU..
[06:19] <LastArms> that was the pastebin from <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:19] <LastArms> <IP_ADDRESS> the one I'm trying to ping is a wireless ap so I can't do arp from there...
[06:20] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: wait ... ok ... then all the testsshould have been performed on <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:21] <LastArms> is a client connected to that be ok?
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: is the accesspoint configured to allow icmp?
[06:21] <LastArms> I can ping it from the client...
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> wait.  which is the dhcp again so?
[06:22] <LastArms> the DHCP server is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:23] <LastArms> I want to ping from <IP_ADDRESS> to the wireless ap <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:24] <olf-folks> is this right? i want ot share that dir to the whole network with read/write http://pastebin.com/whwMKrtt
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: hmm. ok. so ... the issue is most likely with the AP since thats whats not seemingly replying. You should use wireshark to see if you are getting a reply or not, and if you are actually sending out a request or not
[06:28] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:28] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I will try that then
[06:29] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: thanx for all your help
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[06:30] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: should i keep the subnet bit?
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yups
[06:31] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: looks odd      <IP_ADDRESS>/24/255.255.25
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ahh no. i mean /24 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:32] <olf-folks> cidr...
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: /home/superuser/Desktop/Homenet/ <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_subtree_check,sync)
[06:37] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: hey
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: yo
[06:38] <olf-folks> how do i know if its working?
[06:38] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: figured out what I did exactly with the external drive…the external drive was an external hard drive…I for some reason thought it was a USB device…I formatted it as exFAT….now it's not working at all
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:40] <Cheryl_c> Cant find sotware that I installed on Ubuntu. Is there one common place for programs that I install?
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: anything showing up for it in gparted?
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what software so
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what software?
[06:41] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: it would seem to be working, is there something special for mounting it on one of the clients?
[06:42] <aarcane> Does anybody know how to force DKMS to rebuild a module it says is already built?
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: nope: sudo mount ip_of_server:/home/superuser/Desktop/Homenet /path/to/mount/point
[06:43] <Cheryl_c> hitsujiTMO:  Some astrology software that was pinned to the shortcut bar until I made another install and then the icon disappeared. Google play says that it is installed
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !dkms | aarcane maybe something usefull here?
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what has google play got to do with ubuntu?
[06:44] <Cheryl_c> I mean the sofware center, sorry
[06:45] <Neytiri> this is sort of a odd question, but how woud i use box A as ddos protection for box B
[06:45] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: i'm using an ubuntu server…I can't figure out how to use gparted just from the command line
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Cheryl_c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Astrology
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: lol. might just be the .desktop file is missing. search in dash or failing that find the packagename and run: dpkg -L packagename
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: you can setup iptables to anti-ddos
[06:46] <Neytiri>  ok, but how do i route the traffic?
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: not sure how they config it correct, maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[06:47] <Name141> anyone know how to get Alt + Tab to alt+tabbing (like in windows/cycling through the programs opeN0
[06:47] <Neytiri> kk
[06:48] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: here is the output of sudo fdisk -l => http://pastebin.com/0GXASQ5S
[06:49] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667078/
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: look around on iptables+ anti ddos: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/prevent-dos-with-iptables/
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: and thats with the device connected?
[06:49] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: yes
[06:50] <Neytiri> will give it a look thanks
[06:51] <firmware000>  < = olf-folks in the room upstairs
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: add "-t nfs" after mount then. have you installed nfs-common on the client?
[06:53] <kelvinella> hello
[06:53] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: never mind it wasn't connected
[06:53] <ben8877755> Hi all. i have a problem with fresh installation 12.04. can anybody help me? in this forum i writed problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2196642 . problem about drivers amd 7850
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> kelvinella: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[06:54] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: ok i installed nfs-common and now i got an error i think its on the server side http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667102/
[06:54] <hopkins83> Hi, can someone help me do `npm install seedrandom` on Ubuntu 13.10? I'm getting this error: https://gist.github.com/frankie-loves-jesus/8193484
[06:54] <hopkins83> I also tried upgrading to the latest version of Node using https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager
[06:55] <samm_> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/18/%23ubuntu-ops.html
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> samm_: ?
[06:55] <samm_> bazhang	irc.geekpanties.com? does that ring a bell?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: try disable the graphics drivers and reboot, see what it does
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:57] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: i've verified that it is connected using the lsusb command, I don't see any change thought => http://pastebin.com/m9aZhzRR
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !info npm | hopkins83
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: ls -l /dev/sd*
[06:58] <vadi01> hi does ubutu 13.10 support ssd automatically or i still need to edit fstab?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> vadi01: automatic trim support comes on 14.04, so you have to edit yes
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> vadi01: yes and yes
[06:58] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: What do you mean?
[06:58] <Cheryl_c> lotuspsychje: got the program downloaded just cant acceess it
[06:58] <vadi01> thanks.
[06:59] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: this is what I get => http://pastebin.com/tJDHS2XD
[06:59] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: whats output of: lsusb        an what entry of that is the hdd?
[07:00] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: lsusb => http://pastebin.com/WuMKLTwE ….it is the cypress device
[07:00] <hipitihop> do changes made by xrandr stick across reboots ?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | hipitihop
[07:01] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: apt-get install npm: "npm is already the newest version."
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> hopkins83: ok you installed it, but cant config right?
[07:02] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure. Could you have a quick look at https://gist.github.com/frankie-loves-jesus/8193484 for me please?
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: what type of device is this exactly? just a hdd?
[07:03] <duhamel> hello all. I am trying to write a script to help my friend put a new kernel on his machine. i want the script to: cd /media/*home*/thumbdrive then run the dpkg command. how do i determine the *home* folder name with script?
[07:03] <hipitihop> lotuspsychje, thanks since I always drive pc from hdmi on single monitor, why does this refer to dual screens and if I use the nvidia config, it has the twin screen disabled
[07:04] <hipitihop> duhamel, you can refer to the home folder with ~/
[07:04] <Cheryl_c> what is an executable file extension for ubuntu programs. I am thinking of launching the software manually
[07:04] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: Disable in System settings>Additional Drivers ?
[07:05] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667130/ , im thinking it could be my firewall, i blocked port 111, should that be open? :S
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: yes try to untick the green button, to disable and try a reboot
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:34 AM) funky2: gheraint: he cant
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:38 AM) funky2: its him roomie
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:44 AM) Brian666: He is physically touching my tv
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:51 AM) Brian666: do i threaten him ?
[07:05] <funky2> :P
[07:05] <FloodBot1> funky2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <firmware000> whut?
[07:06] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: here is a picture of it exactly=> http://www.seagate.com/support/external-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/ ….it is the "External SATA (eSATA) Hard Drive"
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> hopkins83: not sure how its done mate, you sure you got right version? says uncompatible?
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: from the pci id 04b4:8613 it would look like the enclosure has died.
[07:07] <duhamel> hipitihop: so it could be something like /media/~/thumbdrive if that was the thumbdrive label?
[07:07] <Jay__> Hey I'm getting incredibly low internet speeds on Ubuntu, both on wireless and wired - it's working fine on windows. I searched around a bit on the forums and someone asked a person in a similar situation to run 'dmesg | grep -e eth0 -e 00:0e' and when I ran it I noticed a lot of these messages: 'eth0: Detected Hardware Unit Hang:'
[07:08] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: Dunno dawg. appreciate the help though!
[07:08] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: thank you. i go to try
[07:08] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: enclosure has died?…what does that mean and how did u come to that conclusion exactly?
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: yup. eeprom data is corrupt, http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=39831
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: network card chip and ubuntu version please?
[07:09] <hipitihop> duhamel, I don't think it can be used that way, sorry I didn't see you were trying to substitute in a a composite path
[07:10] <SuperLag> Is there a way to disable the downloading of the language packs, when you're doing an Ubuntu install?
[07:10] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Intel 7260AC, Ubuntu 12.04
[07:10] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: so it's dead?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: can you define 'slow' internet?
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: the enclosure is the case and the board that translates the device from sata -> usb.   since the eeprom has become corrupt its showing up as a development/testing device
[07:11] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667130/ , im thinking it could be my firewall, i blocked port 111, should that be open? :S
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: whats happening when you browse the web?
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: the enclosure is dead, but not the hard drive. you can open it up, take out the hard drive and put it in a new enclosure or connect it directly to the motherboard/power supply
[07:12] <hipitihop> duhamel, I don't know exact syntax in a script, but you can refer to session environment variables e.g. if you do "echo $HOME" in your terminal
[07:12] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: 2.51Mbps down and 1.09Mbps up (wireless), on wired I was getting like 6 down and 3 up. Though on windows on wireless I get ~30 down and 10 up, and on wired I get around 50 down and 15 up
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: posiibly, disable your firewall temporarily
[07:12] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: alright..is that enclosure never going to work again
[07:12] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Just browsing the web is okay at times but at other times nothing will load at all
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: never
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you check your additional driver section, see if anything comes in list?
[07:13] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: alright thank you so much for helping me troubleshoot this…guess I'll be cracking the enclosure then
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: take a look at /var/log/syslog for any network errors aswell plz
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: you can buy replacemem
[07:14] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: you can buy replacements quite cheap http://www.ebay.ie/itm/CiT-2-5-USB-SATA-and-IDE-HDD-Enclosure-External-Case-Hard-Drive-Caddy-/231100316992?pt=UK_Collectables_HardDriveEnclosures_RL&hash=item35cea6fd40
[07:14] <hipitihop> duhamel, however you are not actually interested in the users home by the looks of it
[07:15] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah nothing comes up when looking at additional drivers. Anything I should grep for when looking at the syslog?
[07:15] <kevin_> When I check System Settings ==> Details it reports my Ubuntu Version is 13.10.  When I use lsb_release -a it reports different "Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0 Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[07:16] <kevin_> and when I'm booting up the Ubuntu Purple boot screen display 12.04 also.  Any suggestions? thnx
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: take a quick view on syslog plain, anything related to wifi/eth could be usefull
[07:16] <ben8877755> I need to see: i removed driver. what I need to see? http://s10.postimg.org/5m02mtc6h/Screenshot_from_2013_12_31_11_15_34.png
[07:17] <kevin_> even calling cat /etc/issue reports Ubuntu 12.04.2 \n \l
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe your card needs a firmware from intel, not sure
[07:17] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: it is really hard to get this enclosure off
[07:17] <kevin_> Is this another case of Multiple Inheritance not being implemented correctly? lol
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: does your graphics work better now?
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: some can be more awkward than others. especially when they dont want you to take them apart
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: what OS did you actually install?
[07:19] <kevin_> The OS is Ubuntu 13.10
[07:19] <kevin_> Upgraded from Ubuntu 13.04
[07:19] <duhamel> hipitihop: yeah i just want to change to the directory the thumb drive is in but obiously not through /dev/ because it will be different on every machine. i want a simple universtal command.
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: did you download from here? http://www.bodhilinux.com/
[07:19] <duhamel> i might just have to give a detailed readme.
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_:  --> Bodhi 2.3.0 Release <--    seems you didn't install ubuntu
[07:20] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: there are a couple of things like that
[07:20] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Dec 30 09:41:38 NetworkManager[882]: <error> [1388425298.606932] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:393] update(): dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Jay__
[07:20] <kevin_> Ubuntu 13.10 is installed I have installed Enlightment Desktop, and GDM 3.9.90 also
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: where di you download the ubuntu iso from?
[07:21] <duhamel> might be a python job.
[07:21] <kevin_> Ubuntu Website Official
[07:21] <kevin_> Using different bash calls the system reports a different OS
[07:21] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: graphics work worse.
[07:21] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: looks like one of your PPAs screwed things up then. i suggest a reinstall
[07:21] <hipitihop> duhamel, fair enough. But is there not a way to correctly install the kernel from the command line on the users machine ? as opposed to providing it on a thumb drive, a script, and instructions
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: you got an nvidia card right?
[07:22] <kevin_> i.e cat/etc or lsb_release or just viewing system details through the GUI each reports a different OS
[07:22] <Cheryl_c> i have version 13.10 and cannot locate the sytstem preferences menu
[07:22] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: amd hd 7850
[07:22] <kevin_> The system is operating fine its just reporting different versions lol
[07:23] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: ok, sorry that takes so long but here is an update http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667164/
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: did you lsb release from enlightment desktop?
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: if its reporting different version then the core of the system has been corrupt and can lead to who knows what kind of damage
[07:23] <duhamel> hipitihop: that's the issue im hoping the kernel will fix. he can't even get on with a wired connection.
[07:23] <Jay__> lotuspsycheje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667167/
[07:23] <kevin_> I just think its a Inheritance conflict
[07:23] <kevin_> an*
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: can you lsb release from unity? just to test
[07:24] <kevin_> and elements of the OS are reporting different versions
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: lshw -C video to pastebin plz?
[07:25] <Ben64> kevin_: so you're running bodhi?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: can you paste the whole syslog?
[07:25] <kevin_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0 Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[07:25] <GEEGEEGEE> im getting "unable to find package ubunt-desktop" im running Ubuntu desktop 12.04
[07:25] <GEEGEEGEE> what do
[07:25] <Ben64> kevin_: then you'll want the bodhi support channel, this is for ubuntu only
[07:25] <kevin_> No i'm not runnning Bodhi I just have Enlightenment Desktop installed as an option
[07:25] <duhamel> hipitihop: if i could it would just be wget the ppa to the home directory and then unpack it right there.
[07:26] <kevin_> This is the correct channel to inquire
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: could it be that enlightment desktop shows bodhi lsb ?
[07:26] <kevin_> as I am using Ubuntu 13.10
[07:26] <Ben64> kevin_: not for bodhi, no
[07:26] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: no
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: simply put, the ppa you are using is screwing up your system. you shouldn't use it
[07:26] <kevin_> I'm not using bodhi it is reporting a mix ofBodhi and Ubuntu 12.04 Precise lol
[07:27] <kevin_> Its ok you cant help no problems
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: maybe you should reinstall clean like hitsujiTMO suggested
[07:27] <Ben64> whatever it is, its not supported here
[07:27] <Ben64> you should be more careful of what packages you install
[07:27] <kevin_> No i dont need to its only a reporting error from the system
[07:27] <duhamel> it seems telling the computer to do it should be easier than telling him to though.
[07:28] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Anything else I can check before I do that?
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: ok, on the server lets try something different: mkdir /home/exports
[07:28] <kevin_> Like someone has written down the wrong info into a file that deals only with tell me what Version it is
[07:28] <kevin_> and i'm looking at the file
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe check the intel site for you device, to see if any recent drivers/firmware show?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you have your card working on any other ubuntu version?
[07:28] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO:  its not going to hurt if i just ssh into the server right? im starting to get tired of walking all the way back to the server lol
[07:28] <kevin_> For example The entire system is 13.10 but, someone has gone and sent a memo to someone else and told them that it is Bodhi installed.
[07:29] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: ssh is good :P
[07:29] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: No this is a brand new laptop
[07:29] <adminewb> hi all - question about ubuntu kernel modules, built from source: is it necessary to pull in packages for kernel source, or only kernel headers? make is giving faults indicating something's missing to build ndiswrapper's module, and I can't quite tell what
[07:30] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: as i've explained you're using a crappy ppa to install enlightenment. it will prevent you from installing other software from the ubuntu repo
[07:30] <firmware000> ok i did mkdir /home/exports
[07:31] <kevin_> Not true everything is running fine accept the false reporting
[07:31] <Neytiri> how would i send traffic coming form the public Internet to server A <IP_ADDRESS>  to server B <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:31] <samiralajaad> wait, did you install opera @kevin__
[07:31] <kevin_> I can log into any of them and they work fine
[07:31] <kevin_> So its definetly a reporting bug
[07:31] <duhamel> hipitihop: the fact that what i want to do isn't easy is why linux is pretty much virus-free, i guess.
[07:32] <forlink> hi
[07:32] <Jay__> lotuspsycheje:  https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Wireless+Networking&ProductLine=Intel%C2%AE+Wi-Fi+Products&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Dual+Band+Wireless-AC+7260
[07:33] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: if you want to ignore our warning then that's fine. but know that you will not be able to get any support from anyone with such a setup
[07:33] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: oops got your name wrong for that link. Doesn't look like they have any linux downloads though
[07:34] <firmware000> i made the directory exports now i am suppose to do something
[07:34] <kevin_> Thats fine you are unable to help anyway I'll report the bug the old fashioned way
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe here also: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: its not a bug. you've replaced core components with that of another operating system
[07:35] <kevin_> Its a bug thanks very much
[07:35] <kevin_> 100% certainty
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | kevin_
[07:35] <kevin_> Poor engineering and bug
[07:35] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah that's where I got my drivers from to begin with :)
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did it not work by default?
[07:35] <kevin_> an example of Multiple Inheritance falling flat on its back
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: no it did not
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you connect to internet to install your ubuntu?
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: yep
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: err no I didn't sorry
[07:37] <faisal_> got a problem with software center.
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> Mr-Torvalds: can you pastebin your /etc/exports again please
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i would try with eth0 cable on (if you can)
[07:37] <faisal_> quits and relaunches every time
[07:37] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: what do you mean
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: install ubuntu 12.04 with an ethernet cable in, and check third party software at setup
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: and update system during setup
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe your wifi card will install by default then
[07:38] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Aww, reinstall? :(
[07:39] <duhamel> faisal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get - y remove --purge
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: wouldn't it just install the same thing?
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: I mean, they have Intel 7260 listed in the iwlwifi link you sent me
[07:40] <duhamel> faisal: not positive but give it a try.
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: you can try mate
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: No i mean that's what I did download to get my wifi working in the first place
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: yes but we are not sure those drivers are the best for your card right
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i would go for the ubuntu default ones
[07:41] <adminewb> kernel module build anyone?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: if its possible, its always best to setup with an internet connection
[07:42] <kevin_> I mean for an "Open" System its extremely sensitive to additions lol
[07:42] <chovy> is it possible to bootup unbuntu so I just get the shell and not the full desktop?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | adminewb
[07:42] <adminewb> thanks
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> chovy: server?
[07:43] <adminewb> mostly i'm looking to confirm that I need not kernel sources but kernel headers, to build a module
[07:43] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Gotcha. It doesn't seem to work by default though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/322511/no-wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-7260
[07:43] <Jay__> lotuspsychje:granted that is the N version and not the AC version
[07:44] <adminewb> in which case the make error messages don't seem sensible to me
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: it's not "sensistive" the ppa you install replaced a core package in the system.   its like going into windows 8 and replacing some random lib from windows 2000
[07:44] <kevin_> No its didnt lol
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: hmmm, i remember users having trouble with that N on wifi cards...not sure what they did to solve..think firmware
[07:44] <kevin_> Like I said the system runs fine its reports are conflicting
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: what ppa did you use?
[07:44] <kevin_> using different calls
[07:45] <kevin_> All I have Done and by the way I installed Enlightenment through packages and scripting
[07:45] <kevin_> not through PPA
[07:45] <udaychaitanya> HI
[07:45] <Ben64> kevin_: its not a bug, don't report it
[07:45] <kevin_> already have
[07:46] <Ben64> you messed with system files, and wonder why system files are messed up
[07:46] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: so ... wait ... what???
[07:46] <kevin_> huh?
[07:46] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah the second highest answer on that is a guy linking to the firmware in his dropbox. It's the same one listed on the iwlwifi page though. Also when you install Ubuntu with an internet connection, does it do anything more than just running sudo apt-get update?

[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: not sure of that mate, maybe try ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:47] <adminewb> must say it mystifies me no end why building kernel modules is forced on any mere mortal; i.e. why would ndiswrapper's module be in source form and not be distributed as binary?
[07:48] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? Is that in response to updating?
[07:48] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: where did you get these packages from? and these scripts?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: yes
[07:49] <chovy> lotuspsychje: well i want to run the desktop, but i plan on leaving my machine on. I don't want to have the desktop on all the time. just the basic server.
[07:49] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: What are restricted extras and how do I add them? Also is there an easier way to reply to you without having to use the up arrow and deleting my previous comment
[07:50] <kevin_> I went to school one day and realised that this was not one day but one day of many days too come, of which I will be going to school.  I then discovered that if I wanted to Program well I had to go one day to University and study for many more days.  So I did and guess what, I got a degree in Software Engineering!
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Jay__
[07:50] <adminewb> kevin_ good luck with your piece of paper
[07:50] <kevin_> After that I was able to do all kinds of things with computers like, make all the directories and files show up in this tiny transparent screen called a terminal.  It was really really cool.
[07:51] <hopkins83> How do I list my apt-get packages?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: this is an ubuntu support channel mate, go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss your experiences
[07:51] <hopkins83> apt-get list doesnt work
[07:52] <kevin_> if I concatenated two strings together at the right time and maybe .trim() it after I could make things appear alittle better
[07:52] <kevin_> Anyway thats my answer to where I got the scripts from
[07:52] <hopkins83> How do I downgrade from Python 2.7 to Python 2.6?
[07:53] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, hi
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: anmd the packages? did you just pull them directly from bodhi?
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: yo
[07:53] <adminewb> kernel module build, anyone? headers not kernel source?
[07:53] <hopkins83> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[07:53] <kevin_> The packages are available if you look around
[07:53] <hopkins83> really??
[07:53] <hopkins83> jesus christ
[07:53] <ghinzu> hi! I run a program through a ssh connection and got disconnected. I've reconnected but lost the output of the process – is it possible to intercept its output anyhow now?
[07:53] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've tried the tests
[07:53] <olf-folks> test
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> !details | adminewb
[07:54] <hopkins83> man ubuntu is MESSED UP
[07:54] <kevin_> It works great just calls used to report info are not agreeing lol
[07:54] <hopkins83> everything is so ass backwards
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !language | hopkins83
[07:54] <hopkins83> oops sorry
[07:54] <kevin_> Like they are referencing different sources
[07:54] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you please remind me what the issue was
[07:54] <kevin_> that have been updated with the right or wrong info
[07:54] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/whwMKrtt
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've added a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d
[07:55] <adminewb> in order to install ndiswrapper, one component of it is a kernel module/driver, all right? kernel module building is not for the faint of heart
[07:55] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: ohhh are the restricted extras just the third [party software packages that you have the option of adding during instalation?
[07:55] <kevin_> lsb_release reports differently to cat /etc/
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i think so yes
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've changed the script
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ahh yes. what errors you getting now?
[07:55] <adminewb> my question is, does building the module require kernel source or just headers?
[07:55] <kevin_> I guess which report is the more reliable lsb or cat/etc/
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, same errors, or exactly two of three errors
[07:55] <kevin_> or the System Details GUI
[07:56] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: sorry that was the old paste
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: just need the right exports now
[07:56] <cristian_c> stdin: is not a tty
[07:56] <cristian_c> Failed to connect to X Server.
[07:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to follow the second point?
[07:57] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: yup. you need the env vars now
[07:57] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: current /etc/exports file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667276/
[07:57] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Also I'm pretty confident that I installed the firmware correctly now.http://askubuntu.com/questions/394165/ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-after-install I did the same thing as this guy. Oh and about replying without deleting my previous comment?
[07:57] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Thanks for all the help by the way :)
[07:58] <hopkins83> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 with Python 2.7, but this thing I'm working on needs Python 2.6. Should I downgrade from 2.7 or install 2.6 separately?
[07:58] <adminewb> ahem
[07:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, '2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[07:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, how can I apply exactly this point? with the first point too?
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: in terminal now run: export -p > ~/envvars
[07:59] <adminewb> one might have guessed that a simple answer would lead to more well targeted questions
[07:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: not sure mate never played with such firmware, but you can tryout until your speed runs smooth again
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: now. you want to trim out exports that are ireelevant. such as LS_COLORS
[08:01] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to delete the two lines?
[08:01] <cristian_c> declare -x
[08:01] <cristian_c> and:
[08:02] <cristian_c> LS_COLORS="rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;
[08:02] <cristian_c> 31:*.jar=01;31:*.war=01;31:*.ear=01;31:*.sar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.webm=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp
[08:02] <cristian_c> 4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.axv=01;35:*.anx=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav
[08:02] <FloodBot1> cristian_c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: pastebin the full file
[08:03] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: current /etc/exports file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667276/
[08:03] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, sorry , I didn't know that this line was so long
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: pastebin ~/envvars
[08:04] <cristian_c> ok
[08:04] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Hell I'll just try restating
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks change /etc/exports to: /home/exports <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_subtree_check,sync)
[08:04] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: restarting*
[08:06] <paulus68> j/##ssd
[08:06] <olf-folks> got it hitsujiTMO
[08:06] <paulus68> hitsujiTMO: can you give me the link to the ssd please
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: restart the nfs kernel server and try mounting that export
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> paulus68: to which exactly?
[08:08] <paulus68> the one that lotuspsyche created
[08:08] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/PiqdseGi
[08:08] <ghinzu> hi! I run a program through a ssh connection and got disconnected. I've reconnected but lost the output of the process – is it possible to intercept its output anyhow now?
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> paulus68: you mean ##linux-ssd ?
[08:09] <paulus68> hitsujiTMO: that's the one
[08:09] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Lol, yay for restarting. Back to getting 45 down and 10 up. Not sure how restarting helped
[08:13] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: its there i just cant seem to mount the thing :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667299/
[08:13] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, then, does it need only that envvars file is present in my home because synclient script is working?
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: you forgot the mountpoint
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you pastebin the wake script you have again?
[08:15] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: hey, I totally took the whole thing apart but I don't see any special way to directly connect to the hard drive
[08:15] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: can you take a pic of the hdd? connector end
[08:16] <john_doe_jr1> it's just the eSata
[08:16] <helmut_> hi
[08:17] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: well it would seem to be working now, how would i make it do what i want lol or is that possible?
[08:17] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/e4EXLAXB
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: what you prob need is a sata cable. and a free sata power cable coming from the power supply. with those you should be able to connect it in
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: what do you want the export for exactly?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: i'm guessing the issue with the other export was the permission trail. some services requite all parent dirs to be owned by root
[08:19] <willbradley> has anyone bought a high-end laptop recently and had good success with ubuntu compatibility?
[08:19] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: so I took this apart for nothing?