[17:06] <j2daosh> yeah the i810 driver, but thats the one i am already using and its incorrect
[17:06] <OberonKing> hi... somebody knows why mi dvd-rw asus 1608p2 not working any more after Feisty?....... I'm using Hardy right now and the issue persist
[17:06] <Lake> what's the difference between BSD and Linux ? I read some articles but the only thing that comes up is the rate of release
[17:06] <grims> LittleKiller, follow the instructions on the page I sent you -- it should work
[17:06] <j2daosh> i think i will try with the nv driver and see what happens
[17:06] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: how do you know it's incorrect?
[17:06] <deserteagle> thoreauputic: meh, i'm just going with vmware
[17:06] <deserteagle> thoreauputic: wasting too much time on this :P
[17:06] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings everyone.
[17:07] <incorrect> lies
[17:07] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: could it be the right driver with the wrong H and V frequencies for example?
[17:07] <d4t4min3r> can I install ubuntu HH from Flash drive?
[17:07] <LittleKiller> grims: I have php installed php5 came with the package I installed
[17:08] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: is this an nvidia card?
[17:08] <j2daosh> nope, its just a generic intel onboard
[17:08] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: nv is for nvidia
[17:08] <noodlesgc> j2daosh do you have the xserver-video-intel package installed?
[17:08] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: so it's certainly the wrong choice :)
[17:09] <j2daosh> i did a cache search for intel and that wasn't a package available so either yes, or not and its not available
[17:09] <noodlesgc> j2daosh ok, which release are you using? Gutsy?
[17:09] <thoreauputic> !info xserver-video-intel
[17:10] <grims> ikonia: Are you talking about http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[17:10] <geo___> hi
[17:10] <geo___> i have a problem
[17:10] <OberonKing> hi... somebody knows why mi dvd-rw asus 1608p2 not working any more after Feisty?....... I'm using Hardy right now and the issue persist.... sorry but I'm a little sad about this
[17:10] <geo___> how will i make install aircrack?
[17:10] <j2daosh> not sure which one, 7.10
[17:10] <Crashed> Hey guys, what's it mean when the kill command doesn't output anything?
[17:11] <thoreauputic> ah ubotu has quit :|
[17:11] <Stroganoff> Crashed: use killall
[17:11] <Crashed> killall
[17:11] <ubotu> Package xserver-video-intel does not exist in gutsy
[17:11] <Andycasss> how to uninstall bcm43xx drivers that came automatically?
[17:11] <Stroganoff> killall badprogram
[17:11] <noodlesgc> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:12] <Crashed> Hm.
[17:12] <thoreauputic> Crashed: it usually means it worked :)
[17:12] <esperegu> anyone experience with REALTEC ALC1200 audio chipset? (I get no sound)
[17:12] <Crashed> But it didn't work :(
[17:12] <Andycasss> how to uninstall bcm43xx drivers that came automatically? (I want to use ndiswrapper instead)
[17:12] <thoreauputic> Crashed: you checked the pid ? pidof baddapp ?
[17:12] <Crashed> Yeah.
[17:12] <Crashed> I'm trying to use kill through php.
[17:12] <thoreauputic> !repeat | Andycasss
[17:12] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9.1 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[17:13] <noodlesgc> j2daosh try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:13] <Crashed> shell_exec("kill -9 $pid");
[17:13] <ubotu> Andycasss: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:13] <j2daosh> cant find the package
[17:13] <_moro_bana_> i have ubuntu running, how can i add server packs from the ubuntu-server disc?
[17:14] <thoreauputic> hmmm  ubotu is lagging :|
[17:14] <noodlesgc> j2daosh ok just type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:14] <Jeruvy> Hmm when using VNC and rebooting the PC, how do I ensure X starts back at the correct display mode?  Having problem of it changing  and not allowing it to change back (says it is but is doing nothig)?
[17:14] <j2daosh> thats what i tried and it says couldn't find it
[17:15] <Samstone|Junior> hi all
[17:15] <noodlesgc> j2daosh odd. are you trying to fix resolution?
[17:15] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: try running  sudo apt-get update   first.
[17:15] <LittleKiller> I have problem with LAMP I can view HTML files but when I click PHP it downloads it rather than viewing it. and Yes I have php5 installed.
[17:15] <grims> btb
[17:15] <grims> brb
[17:15] <Crashed> kill isn't outputting anything, and it's not killing anything. And I verified the PID.
[17:15] <Crashed> :[
[17:15] <geo___> sorry
[17:15] <erUSUL> !lamp | LittleKiller
[17:15] <ubotu> LittleKiller: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:15] <sahak> if you go to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ in the "Standards" paragraph it says "The primary entrÃ©e to these discussions ...". What is "entrÃ©e"?
[17:15] <geo___> how may i crack wep keys?
[17:16] <j2daosh> did the update and still dont have the package available
[17:16] <thoreauputic> Crashed:  you might need the dreaded  kill -9 <pid number>
[17:16] <Boohbah> geo___: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+wep+crack
[17:16] <noodlesgc> j2daosh ok do you have all the repositories enabled?
[17:16] <Boohbah> geo___: google is great ain't it?
[17:16] <j2daosh> i believe so lemme double check
[17:16] <DJones> geo___: just key in the appropriate password/key
[17:17] <thoreauputic> Crashed: but that's a last resort as it doesn't clean up
[17:17] <strtok> anyone have a recommendation on how to update a bios from ubuntu? the freedos method won't work because my bios file size exceeds the freedos floppy size
[17:17] <Boohbah> DJones: i think he wants to brute force the key, without prior knowledge
[17:17] <blankboy> Is the a rss feed for downloading the torrent for ubuntu 8.04 went it comes out ?
[17:17] <spiniker> hello
[17:17] <mikefizz> hey everybody, i have a question about dell laptop partitions
[17:17] <erUSUL> strtok: you can create a bootable freedos iso i recall seying a how to about it
[17:17] <_moro_bana_> erUSUL: how can i add LAMP from the server disc, if its possible?
[17:17] <j2daosh> yeah, they are all enabled
[17:18] <Boohbah> !lamp
[17:18] <idealab_loco> The Ubuntu 8.04 is coming
[17:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:18] <DJones> Boohbah: Maybe, but that would most likely be illegal and offtopic
[17:18] <thoreauputic> _moro_bana_: fire up tasksel and select LAMP
[17:18] <spiniker> is it possible for someone who claims he could do a ddos to use it against a ubuntu pc?
[17:18] <Boohbah> DJones: not illegal or offtopic...
[17:18] <Scunizi> !ask | mikefizz
[17:18] <ubotu> mikefizz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:18] <noodlesgc> j2daosh try installing the 915resolution package
[17:18] <_moro_bana_> thoreauputic: aaaaaaa! what is taskel
[17:19] <Boohbah> spiniker: it is possible, but you can protect against most DDoS with a staeful packet filter
[17:19] <Boohbah> stateful*
[17:19] <_3mendo> re all
[17:19] <thoreauputic> _moro_bana_:  type  sudo tasksel  - it gives you a list of choices - LAMP is one of them
[17:19] <spiniker> so im still vulnerable using ubuntu
[17:19] <j2daosh> got the package name off hand?
[17:19] <fran> hi i seem to have a dodgy problem. []The following packages have unmet dependencies. []   libmp4v2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed []  libmp4v2-dev: Depends: libmp4v2-0 (= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3) but 1:1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[17:19] <fourthdimension> k guest
[17:19] <mikefizz> alright, I have a dell laptop with 3 partitions, the main one with xp on it, a dell restore partition, and a dell utility partition. Since i can only hvae 4 partitions max and also want to dual boot with ubuntu, is it safe to delete the dell restore and dell utility partitions
[17:19] <fran> how can i fix that ?
[17:19] <thoreauputic> _moro_bana_:  tasksel = "task select"
[17:20] <j2daosh> i already have that package installed
[17:20] <geo___> Djones : can u explain that to me please?
[17:20] <grims> ikonia, the sysrq didn't do anything
[17:21] <_moro_bana_> thoreauputic: i see, nice. that will be from the disc right?
[17:21] <Waffle> mikefizz, if you have a problem with your windows partition the restore and utility partitions are what you would use
[17:21] <Scunizi> mikefizz: what you might want to do is leave all those partitions in place and for the fourth partition create it as an extended partition.  That way you can make more partitions in the extended partition section.
[17:21] <shane2peru> anyone know why I can't go to my machine name instead of localhost in my web browser?
[17:21] <thoreauputic> _moro_bana_: I think LAMP is on the serer disk, yes
[17:21] <thoreauputic> *server
[17:21] <Waffle> mikefizz, if you call Dell and tell them you want to change your partitions around they might send you the recovery and utility discs
[17:22] <Boohbah> shane2peru: because you haven't mapped the ip address to the domain name
[17:22] <Crashed> How do you add a user with ftp and ssh access?
[17:22] <shane2peru> _moro_bana_, I had trouble installing with the server disk, it failed on package selection with the rc and 64bit
[17:22] <Crashed> useradd -d /home/crashed -s ?
[17:22] <shane2peru> Boohbah, how do I do that?
[17:22] <Bidget> hey how do I find out my ip again?
[17:22] <Marfi> mikefizz, you can have more than 4 partitions
[17:22] <Bidget> what do I type in a terminal so I can see my ip?
[17:22] <noodlesgc> j2daosh 915resolution
[17:22] <joe___> are we there yet? are we there yet?
[17:22] <linkinxp> :D
[17:22] <Stroganoff> Bidget: ifconfig
[17:22] <linkinxp> are we  ready!!
[17:22] <joe___> save
[17:22] <j2daosh> ok, i have to wait a sec, system updating on me
[17:22] <_moro_bana_> shane2peru: ooh!
[17:22] <Boohbah> Bidget: ifconfig
[17:22] <shane2peru> joe___, almost only another day.
[17:23] <Bidget> ah thanks Stroganoff I knew it was something like that
[17:23] <shane2peru> _moro_bana_, you can give it a try and see if they got it working. :)
[17:23] <shane2peru> _moro_bana_, I did file a bug on it.
[17:23] <Boohbah> shane2peru: edit /etc/hosts
[17:23] <joe___> shane2peru: cool
[17:23] <_moro_bana_> shane2peru: ok
[17:23]  * thoreauputic suggests that everyone type  /topic
[17:23] <LetterRip> hi can anyone recommend a good tool for managing cpuspeed, fan activity, etc.
[17:23] <blankboy_> Is the a rss feed for downloading the torrent for ubuntu 8.04 went it comes out ?
[17:23] <LetterRip> preferably that has a nice applet
[17:23] <shane2peru> Boohbah, ahh, ok, thanks!
[17:24] <thoreauputic> since no-one seems to read the /topic, especially concerning release times
[17:24] <noodlesgc> LetterRip try emifreq-applet
[17:24] <mikefizz> how do i install ubuntu on an extended partition?
[17:25] <Boohbah> thoreauputic: something you'll learn with irc support is that most questions have already been asked and answered, it is just a matter of finding the answers
[17:25] <Slart> mikefizz: just install it to an extended partition? I don't think you have to do something special
[17:25] <blankboy_> Im talking about a rss feed so i can add the rss to my torrent app to start the torrent went its made.
[17:25] <thoreauputic> mikearr: you don't - you make a partition in the extended partition to install on :)
[17:25] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: excuse me?
[17:26] <mikefizz> slart: thanks, i will try that
[17:26] <Boohbah> thoreauputic: your expectations that people will read the topic are futile :)
[17:26] <Slart> mikefizz: ah.. thoreauputic is right.. you install to a logical partition inside an extended partition
[17:26] <thoreauputic> Boohbah:  erm.... it is not an expectation :)
[17:26] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: and I agree
[17:27] <icehanger> whats the backup tool for ubuntu
[17:27] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: I guess I learnt that oh, about 6 years ago :)
[17:27] <mikefizz> slart: so basically, shrink my xp partition, make an extended partion in the space left over, then install ubuntu on that
[17:27] <Slart> icehanger: there are lots.. hang on.. let me try something
[17:27] <Slart> !backup | icehanger
[17:27] <ubotu> icehanger: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:28] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: doesn;t hurt to suggest it though ;p
[17:28] <Jeruvy> !vnc
[17:28] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[17:28] <icehanger> thanks
[17:28] <Slart> mikefizz: almost.. shrink the xp partition.. create an extended partition, create a logical parition in that extended partition, install to the logical parition
[17:28] <grims> !sysrq
[17:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:28] <Jeruvy> !x
[17:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:28] <LittleKiller> I just went throught that whole page and still php files downlaod
[17:29] <grims> Does anyone know why sysrq wont work for me :[. I think its mad at me hah
[17:29] <Slart> grims: what do you want to do?
[17:29] <mikefizz> slart: haha ok, i dont know why dell has to make things so complicated, you know they're shipping some of their new laptops with gutsy already installed
[17:29] <Slart> mikefizz: I guess they charge for support ? =)
[17:30] <grims> Slart, well I am getting crashes within 20 minutes of my computer running, the keyboard lights are flashing, and it locks up -- but no kernel panic message
[17:30] <Boohbah> mikefizz: because dell customers don't know how to install operating systems
[17:30] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: would you like to share any other pearls of wisdom with a grey bearded jaded geek ? *grin*
[17:30] <Slart> grims: checked your cpu temp?
[17:30] <Boohbah> grims: anything in dmesg?
[17:30] <Boohbah> thoreauputic: if you have a grey bear you are probably older than me :)
[17:31] <cycom> Bear?! WHERE?!
[17:31] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: almost certainly, yes :)
[17:31] <grims> Slart, cpu temp is fine -- the hardware is fine -- all tested and used before switching over to ubuntu -- even tested memory with memtest86
[17:31] <mikefizz> slart: dell support is really amazing, at least as far as hardware goes, i havent really had any problems i couldnt fix on my own with software
[17:31] <Boohbah> cycom: in the picnic basket! :)
[17:31] <grims> BoohBah, not sure, how would i check dmesg?
[17:31] <Boohbah> grims: just type 'dmesg'
[17:31] <cycom> hey Boohbah, how about a nice pickanic basket?!
[17:31] <cycom> k, I'm out.
[17:31] <grims> Boohbah, After I reboot?
[17:32] <Boohbah> cycom: :)
[17:32] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: cycom The ranger won't like it, Yogi!
[17:32] <grims> Slart and Boohbah, I was trying to do alt sysrq REISUB
[17:32] <Boohbah> grims: yeah, there should be info about the previously running kernel in there
[17:32] <thoreauputic> :D
[17:32] <grims> Boohbah, okay one second -- I am rebooting it now
[17:33] <Slart> grims: try to find some kind of common link to these crashes.. is it exactly at the same time after a reboot? (20 minutes, 5 seconds for example).. or when you run a certain program.. or when cpu temp reaches a certain value.. look for messages in dmesg, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kernel
[17:33] <lunartear> how do i tell dpkg to believe a package installed correctly?
[17:33] <johnn1> hello, need help on DVD
[17:33] <grims> Slart -- Okay, I will check all of that.  It seems to be very random / sparatic
[17:33] <johnn1> i can't read original dvd on Heron
[17:34] <johnn1> restricted already installed
[17:34] <LittleKiller>
[17:34] <Slart> grims: huh? sysrq REISUB? Is that something I've totally missed after using linux for 2 years
[17:34] <Slart> according to google.. reisub = (Abbreviation) Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring
[17:34] <psymin> Anyone have advice on getting intel 3945 working under heron?
[17:35] <Boohbah> Slart: REISUB is just BUSIER backwards
[17:35] <thoreauputic> psymin:  /join #ubuntu+1
[17:36] <Slart> aha.. found it.. looks pretty neat.. never tried it myself.. http://flipsidereality.com/blog/nix/reisub/
[17:36] <Boohbah> http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/gently-restart-a-frozen-system-298891.php
[17:36] <esref> l
[17:36] <Zarvox> hi all
[17:36] <LittleKiller> cant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.
[17:37] <LittleKiller> it downloads the php files...
[17:37] <psymin> thank you thoreauputic
[17:37] <robf> I have two boxes,  one is serving NFS the other is the client,     if I reboot both boxes,  the server requires a longer boot time than the client.   If the server comes up AFTER the client,  NFS never mounts and requires a manual (mount -a etc.)  mount.
[17:37] <Zarvox> could you help me with hardy on a laptop
[17:37] <thoreauputic> psymin: np
[17:37] <robf> is there a way to force retry of initial mount when it fails (if the server goes down after its mounted once,  it will remount it when it comes back,  its only the initial mount that fails and won't retry)
[17:38] <thoreauputic> Zarvox: hardy questions in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <psymin> robf: here is a poor solution .. have a cron that does mount -a every so often :) .. and another poor solution .. have rc set up an at command to call mount -a X minutes after boot
[17:38] <goodhabit> Hello. I want to buy printer|scanner|copier for my pc. I have installed ubuntu only. How do I choose the model?
[17:38] <sgbirch> Oh dear,   librmagick-ruby1.8 isn't installable on hardy. See bug 220811.  How can I discover if anyone is working on this bug?
[17:38] <Zarvox> tx thoreauputic
[17:38] <robf> psymin: yeah we have a script to do it,  but it seems there should be an internal method
[17:38] <goodhabit> Because I am afraid of compability of devices.
[17:38] <robf> psymin: which is what I'm looking for,  to reduce convolution
[17:38] <psymin> robf: If you find a way, I'd love to hear it too :)
[17:39] <komputes> who here has an eeepc?
[17:39] <robf> psymin: heh... I'm wondering what differs from initial mount timeout/failure versus post mount loss of nfs server and then retrying when it comes back up....
[17:39] <robf> I mean what happens to that process...seems it hsould handle it the same both ways =\
[17:41] <koro> hi, i have a problem with two different drives, one is a partition of my hard disk and the other is a pendrive, both use fat32 filesystem. I copied a whole folder from the disk to the pendrive and now i'm looking at both from ubuntu. The folder in the pendrive shows ok, but in the disk it shows the filenames incorrectly (non-ascii characters like accented vowels are incorrectly displayed)
[17:41] <johnn1> i can't see original dvd's on heron, error says it can't access the resource. restricted meta package installed
[17:41] <koro> what confuses me is that in the pen drive they show up perfectly
[17:41] <koro> and the content of the pendrive is an exact copy of the folder in the other fat32 disk
[17:41] <koro> any ideas what could cause this?
[17:42] <thoreauputic> !libdvdcss
[17:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:42] <grims> Boohbah: http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf8 that is the dmesg -- it locked up before i could get the other logs :[
[17:42] <koro> btw i copied the folders using windows
[17:42] <LittleKiller> cant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.
[17:42] <LittleKiller> cant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.
[17:42] <geo___> who will i crack wep keys?
[17:43] <robf> geo___: we you will won't done so cracking.
[17:43] <robf> is true this not your?
[17:43] <robf> ...
[17:43] <ng0n> !#$@!$#
[17:43] <robf> anyhow anyone know a channel that would be supportive of NFS? #nfs is kinda empty
[17:43] <Scunizi> LittleKiller: if nobody here knows you might try /j #ubuntu-server .. sometimes takes a while for an answer.. depends on how many are actually watching the screen
[17:43] <geo___> its my wireless rooter and i wanna crack it?
[17:43] <geo___> can anyone help me?
[17:44] <grims> !rooter
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rooter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <Slart> !router
[17:44] <robf> geo___: google returns  literally thousands of howtos,
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <robf> it's not a difficult thing to do,  but definitely not supported in this channel
[17:44] <geo___> ok
[17:44] <geo___> thx
[17:44] <grims> Boohbah and Slart: http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf8 that is the dmesg -- it locked up before i could get the other logs :[
[17:44] <ng0n> where are the .Trash files for NTFS drives located ?
[17:44] <grims> and sysrq reisub did nothing lol
[17:45] <Bidget> can anyone tell me a good dock program so I can get a dock like in osx
[17:46] <Slart> grims: didn't see anything special in there.. do you have the same problems if you run a live cd?
[17:46] <grims> Slart, I will try that -- does it mean its a hardware problem if it does with the live cd?
[17:47] <thoreauputic> geo___: cracking is definitely off-topic ( we can't know which questions are genuine for one thing)
[17:47] <apex> Anyone have a dual monitor ATI set up?  I'm trying to get bigdesktop working.  Its working but wont display monitors max rez of 1680x1050
[17:47] <Andycasss> why doesnt ifconfig give me "wlan0", while iwconfig does?!
[17:47] <Samstone|Junior> hi all
[17:47] <Slart> grims: perhaps.. at least it will give us something more to work with
[17:47] <geo___> tell me a channel for cracking please
[17:47] <vorian> geo___: there is no such channel
[17:47] <Bidget> isnt cracking illegal...
[17:47] <grims> Geo -> join a new network
[17:48] <geo___> ok
[17:48] <thoreauputic> geo___: No-one here is going to tell you such stuff
[17:48] <jonph> freenode is for OSS, it is not a generic IRC network
[17:48] <geo___> ok
[17:48] <grims> geo___, don't even try 2600
[17:48] <DJones> Andycasss: As far as I'm aware, the "w" in iwconfig is for "wireless" which is why that list wlan0
[17:48] <grims> geo___, figured I would tell you that before you read anything
[17:49] <robf> Bidget: technically... no
[17:49] <Bidget> "technically" no?
[17:49] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> I'm annoyed
[17:49] <Bidget> lol
[17:49] <robf> Bidget: not if it's "your own"  or permissable by whomever owns it
[17:49] <Andycasss> DJones: This is not the case, i want it to show up in ifconfig
[17:49] <johnn1> thanks
[17:49] <Bidget> I see
[17:49] <geo___> ok
[17:49] <robf> but,  typically you won't find it discussed since the usual reasons are not acceptable
[17:49] <Bidget> but if its your own and you need to get into it why not just unplug it for a minute or two
[17:49] <grims> Slart, I will run the live CD now -- how long are you on for [it may take a little bit before it locks]
[17:49] <robf> Bidget: eh.. if its a router he doesn't need to do that,  theres a lil reset button ;p
[17:50] <Bidget> well yeah same thing
[17:50] <Bidget> haha
[17:50] <robf> Bidget: unplugging it doesn't work ,  (wrt~~ for example) lol ,  yeh
[17:50] <Bidget> hm
[17:50] <Slart> grims: I'll be here for severtal hours still
[17:50] <robf> just reset the settings... but it seems this isn't the case.. doesn't osund like he has physical access to the router
[17:50] <grims> Slart, Ok -- thanks, I will go do it
[17:50] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> I can't drag+click? All the default themes look worse than Windows 3.1. Now Windows Key + Shortcuts?
[17:50] <Bidget> has anyone installed and configured an osx-like dock for their ubuntu 7.10?
[17:50] <thoreauputic> Bidget: you can reset to factory defaults - but you lose your config unless you backed it up
[17:50] <robf> otherwise he'd just use his password,  or does he not know both password / wepkey
[17:50] <DJones> !awn | Bidget
[17:50] <ubotu> Bidget: Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy
[17:50] <Bidget> ah yeah I guess that makes sense thoreauputic
[17:51] <Bidget> oh thanks DJones
[17:51] <robf> thoreauputic: but if you can't modify said settings eg. lost password,   then the least of your worries is the unknown wep key + losing configs
[17:51] <jason_> bidget i use the mac osx dock bar
[17:51] <Bidget> ok
[17:51] <jason_> i love it
[17:51] <robf> geo___: seriously... google it,  or maybe #backtrack has some folks in it
[17:52] <thoreauputic> robf: yes - reconfiguring a router isn't rocket science :)
[17:52] <Bidget> yeah Ive just been looking around to try and find a dock program cause my gf tried to use my computer a while ago and "couldnt figure it out" lol
[17:52] <robf> thoreauputic: cracking wep is much much more time consuming ;p
[17:52] <jason_> that dock bar is pretty stable
[17:52] <robf> and doesn't give you access to fix the problems you may also have lol
[17:52] <jason_> the mac one anyways
[17:52] <Bidget> ok
[17:52] <jason_> has quite a few ad on;s too
[17:52] <Bidget> what is it called?
[17:53] <Bidget> just "mac osx dock" or something?
[17:53] <jason_> hmm... i think i found a guide on making the desktop look just like mac but the olny thing i used in the guide was the dock bar
[17:53] <Bidget> hm ok
[17:53] <jason_> yeah check that
[17:53] <Bidget> k
[17:53] <jason_> good luck
[17:54] <Bidget> thanks
[17:54] <thoreauputic> robf: of course, some people specialise in bricking routers by not following instructions ;p
[17:54] <jason_> oo you can brick routors wow
[17:54] <jason_> i bricked my psp onces
[17:54] <koro> any clue about my problem?
[17:54] <Bidget> apparently I can install linux on my router but I never tried cause I was scared to turn it into a paperweight lol
[17:55] <jason_>  thay have some web site called tomato somting  like that its linux for routors
[17:55] <obvio171> i'm having the classic "/dev/dsp resource busy" error but can't find the culprit and don't want to. is there a way i can just "sudo mow-over-audio-and-bring-it-back"?
[17:55] <Bidget> koro Im sure if you told everyone your problem someone might be able to help you with it
[17:55] <koro> Bidget: i did :(
[17:55] <Bidget> oh
[17:55] <kvaser> does ubuntu support eather 64 bit or 32 cpu or both, or are there seperate versions for it ?
[17:55] <Bidget> I scrolled up and didnt see anything haha
[17:55] <mariusp> Hi all, could someone with a little more experience help me with a small recipe. I am not sure Ive got the order of the recipes right.
[17:55] <blankboy_> obvio171: reboot
[17:55] <Bidget> kvaser, I have a 64-bit version
[17:55] <mcphail> obvio171: "killall esd" often works
[17:55] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> I'm really upset
[17:56] <nsandiman> Hi, I need to set up my sub infrared device on my ubuntu box...any help?
[17:56] <obvio171> blankboy_: short of that :)
[17:56] <nsandiman> *usb
[17:56] <obvio171> mcphail: it's not even up
[17:56] <koro> Bidget: I copied a folder from a fat32 drive to a (fat32) pendrive using windows, and now when i look at them from ubuntu the copied folder (in the pendrive) shows up correctly but the source one shows incorrect non-ascii characters (e.g. accented characters are displayed as weird symbols)
[17:56] <mariusp> any procmail experta around?
[17:56] <devin_> need some help. My usplash is set to 640x480 by default and it looks gigantic on my screen so when i try and change it either with startupmanager or manually though /boot/grub/menu.lst the color on the ubuntu logo gets all messed up. how can i fix this?
[17:56] <blankboy_> obvio171: sorry that the M$ guide :P
[17:56] <kvaser> bidget does it work better with the 64 bit ?
[17:56] <alex123> hi guys, what's a good flow chart / diagram creation tool for ubuntu/linux?
[17:56] <xjkx> where is the "what's new" on the website about the new ubuntu that is coming
[17:56] <Bidget> kvaser, Ive never used the 32-bit so I couldn't really tell you
[17:57] <Bidget> kvaser, I imagine it would work pretty much the same although 64-bit instead of 32-bit haha
[17:57] <thoreauputic> koro: sounds like a limitation of fat32 ( characters etc.)
[17:57] <xjkx> i mean, about what the new is bringing
[17:57] <napsy_> Hello. How often are the translations updated from launchpad?
[17:57] <obvio171> alex123: i've heard of Dia, but haven't used it myself
[17:57] <kvaser> i suppose that all new cpu today are 64 ?
[17:57] <alex123> obvio171, thanks i'll check it out
[17:57] <myIRC> hi, does anyone know if there is a working set of prc-tools for  64bits?
[17:57] <Bidget> kvaser, a high majority I think yeah
[17:57] <xjkx> kvaser, mine isn't
[17:58] <kvaser> so core2duo cpu are 64 bit ?
[17:58] <Bidget> yes
[17:58] <ng0n> ok ok.  i found .Trash-ng0n on the NTFS drive !  how do i empty it ?
[17:58] <mariusp> Bidget, are you  sure core2duo are 64 bit?
[17:59] <Bidget> mariusp, Im about 99% sure yeah... why, is there one specific model that isn't?
[17:59] <ng0n> do i just erase .Trash-ng0n , earse the file
[17:59] <Boohbah> ng0n: is it a file or directory?
[17:59] <Bidget> mariusp, all of the core2's I looked at buying were 64-bit
[17:59] <mariusp> Bidget, no. I was just convinced that they were 32 bit :) Wikipedia proved otherwise...
[17:59] <alex123> mariusp, core2duos are 64 bit
[17:59] <ng0n> Boo. it's a directory
[18:00] <Bidget> mariusp, ah ok
[18:00] <Boohbah> ng0n: rm .Trash-ng0n/*
[18:00] <ng0n> that contains file i want to get rid of.. i need the space for a backup.
[18:00] <eedge> errr, how can I have vnc working before login?
[18:00] <grims> Slart, Got it to lock up on the live cd
[18:00] <ng0n> Boo.
[18:00] <eedge> normal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.
[18:01] <ng0n> Boo. ok. i understand the command.  but how do I invoke it.
[18:01] <ng0n> can i get to NTFS from terminal ?
[18:01] <Slart> grims: hmm.. also after 20 minutes? even if you leave the computer alone.. not using it?
[18:01] <pale-yaf1> hi, I have ubuntu installed on the whole hard drive which contains one partition, is there a way to make another partition by taking space of the one where ubuntu is installed?
[18:01] <Bidget> ok so I was asking about the osx dock thing and someone linked me to this AWN program... if I use it, will it replace compiz and take all my nice effects away?
[18:01] <fr500> meh
[18:01] <fr500> dcc doesn work on xhcat gnome
[18:01] <kvaser> so if i try and install the new ubuntu it will automaticly run in 64 bit mode on my cpu, i have never tried linux as installed, only on live cd
[18:01] <grims> Slart, Took about 5 minutes on the live CD and I was using firefox -- but normally if I let it just sit it will lockup on the HD after about 20 minutes to an hour.
[18:02] <RoAkSoAx> kvaser, yes... if you install the amd64 version
[18:02] <xjkx> what's new on the new ubuntu that is coming ?
[18:02] <koro> thoreauputic: both drives have fat32, one shows correct filenames, the other does not
[18:02] <koro> thoreauputic: so that doesn't make sense
[18:02] <kvaser> but i have intel cpu
[18:02] <RoAkSoAx> xjkx, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc
[18:03] <RoAkSoAx> kvaser, intel core 2 duo?
[18:03] <kvaser> yes
[18:03] <thoreauputic> koro: both viewd from linux?
[18:03] <Pici> !hardy
[18:03] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[18:03] <Speedy> news just in, ubuntu will no longer support intel in the next release
[18:03] <thoreauputic> *viewed
[18:03] <RoAkSoAx> kvaser, tha installer for 64bit version supports amd64, intel core 2 duo... so you wont have any prob
[18:03] <Bidget> oh what its april 24th now?? I thought it was supposed to be released today
[18:03] <Slart> grims: have you checked your memory?
[18:04] <grims> Slart, yes -- using memtest86+ and it passed all tests
[18:04] <Bidget> I find it odd that they call it amd64 if it also supports intel haha... you think they'd just call it 64bit
[18:04] <Andycasss> My wlan adapter doesnt see any nearby stations, why?
[18:04] <Bidget> ok so I was asking about the osx dock thing and someone linked me to this AWN program... if I use it, will it replace compiz and take all my nice effects away?
[18:04] <Speedy> Bidget,
[18:04] <Slart> grims: even if you leave the memtest running for 20+ minutes?
[18:04] <Boohbah> Speedy: do you get your news from the windows vista team?
[18:04] <Andycasss> I have enabled wlan restricted drivers (bcm4312)
[18:04] <Speedy> use cairo-dock instead
[18:04] <ng0n> Boo. OK. I got it.. /media/hdb1    rr
[18:04] <Bidget> oh?
[18:04] <eedge> How can I have vnc working before login? normal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.
[18:04] <grims> Slart, yes -- I left it on for 5 hours haha
[18:04] <grims> Slart, did not know that it kept retesting
[18:04] <kvaser> its not that i consider it to be that of a problem, its only that it would be nice to get some use of the full power of my cpu instead of just using it as if it was a 32 bit cpu ;-)
[18:04] <Speedy> Bidget,  look at the cairo-dock if you want osx style docking, personally i got annoyed with it after an hour
[18:04] <Speedy> dont get why mac fags like the dock
[18:05] <thoreauputic> Andycasss: have you read the bcm43xx wiki help?
[18:05] <Slart> grims: hang on.. I'll be right back
[18:05] <grims> Slart, okay.
[18:05] <robf> Speedy: come on man...
[18:05] <koro> thoreauputic: yes
[18:05] <thoreauputic> Speedy: watch the insults, pal
[18:05] <Bidget> well Im just getting a dock because my gf owns a mac and I think she'd be able to use my computer easier if there was one...
[18:05] <robf> Speedy: watch your words..
[18:05] <Speedy> thoreauputic, i didnt insult anyone
[18:05] <Bidget> you just said "mac fag"
[18:05] <Speedy> point?
[18:05] <DJones> xjkx: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc#head-1265c643d5763372826b64cae74ee8fe10634f1f
[18:05] <thoreauputic> Speedy: I don;t think "fags" is acceptable
[18:05] <Bidget> what exactly is that implying if it's not an insult?
[18:05] <RoAkSoAx> kvaser, install the 64bit version then... it supports amd64 and EMT64
[18:06] <Speedy> ah right, the word fag isnt allowed??? is that a little harsh especially when your making your own assumptions about what it means?
[18:06] <kvaser> thanks for the help
[18:06] <grims> =\
[18:06] <grims> efight!
[18:06] <robf> speedy either assumption finds a party to be insulted if you insist
[18:06] <thoreauputic> Speedy: I won't argue - if you argue about it you will be quietly removed
[18:06] <quittt> hey
[18:06] <Pici> !etiquette > Speedy (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:06] <quittt> is the new Ubuntu released?
[18:06] <Bidget> so speedy what exactly were you meaning when you said fag then?
[18:06] <Pici> Bidget: Drop it.
[18:06] <robf> Speedy: it's not a hard concept seriously...
[18:07] <robf> Bidget: people who smoke while using macs...
[18:07] <Phoop> Hello. When booting the RC of 8.04 it hangs while loading the Hardware Abstraction Layer hald. It is the same thing I had with Gutsy. Do I have some shitty hardware in my machine or..?
[18:07] <Bidget> well isn't that clever...
[18:07] <robf> apple branded cigs...
[18:07] <robf> *shrug*
[18:07] <Pici> Phoop: Watch the language, Hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <Phoop> Aaaah
[18:07] <thoreauputic> robf: drop it please
[18:07] <Speedy> macfag >  someone that likes and uses mac because they see it as a fashion statement rather than a tool
[18:07] <Shadowpillar> anyone here know of any good VOIP brokers?
[18:07] <Slart> grims: memtest just keeps running.. over and over and over again..
[18:07] <Phoop> Thanks, only read the first pieace of the topic Pici :)
[18:08] <Bidget> I think you're confusing the term mac fag with mac user
[18:08] <robf> thoreauputic: >:|
[18:08] <Bidget> but whatever
[18:08] <Bidget> I give up
[18:08] <grims> Slart, yes -- i figured it out haha
[18:08] <LittleKiller> Ok
[18:08] <Slart> grims: is this some kind of "weird computer" in some way? laptop? nuclear computer from old soviet?
[18:08] <xjkx> DJones, thanks
[18:08] <grims> Slart, nuclear from USSR
[18:08] <thoreauputic> !tell Speedy about etiquette
[18:08] <LittleKiller> I got it to where now i want to use a different folder for the local server say my /home/alabamahit/Projects folder...who do i go about making apache user that folder?
[18:08] <Bidget> anyway to my original question, will AWN replace compiz? It says that it is a window manager
[18:09] <Bidget> or should I just try out this cairo dock
[18:09] <xanax`> in console, how can I know which version of kubuntu I am running ?
[18:09] <Boohbah> grims: perhaps the ubuntu kernel is not compiled with SYSRQ support
[18:09] <grims> Slart, nah its a normal computer -- AMD 2800+, 512mb ddr1, onboard everything
[18:09] <grims> Boohbah, how would I change that?
[18:09] <Boohbah> i don't know where to get the .config of the ubuntu kernel though, to find out...
[18:09] <Boohbah> grims: compile your own kernel
[18:09] <grims> Boohbah, Ok
[18:09] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <grims> !compile kernel
[18:10] <FloodBot2> Speedy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <Speedy> I was only giving you the definition... faggots.
[18:10] <grims> someone kb him
[18:10] <Slart> grims: hmm.. odd.. it's hard to troubleshoot when there's no error messages
[18:10] <Bidget> yeah I was gonna suggest that
[18:10] <grims> Slart -- indeed. haha
[18:10] <grims> Slart, it happens on the live cd too though does that make a difference?
[18:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:10] <Slart> grims: 90% of these, "it just crashes after a while", has something to do with overheating.
[18:10] <alteregoa> hello mr. shuttleworth, i got a question, to put ubuntu to some wash machines?
[18:10] <Boohbah> Slart, grims: i guess sysrq happens at such a low level in the kernel that it isn't able to log it... after it's already oopsed
[18:11] <markf> sudo apt-get moo
[18:11] <Boohbah> grims: but did you get any info about why the kernel failed from dmesg?
[18:11] <grims> Slart, is there any app I can run to monitor CPU temp to watch it before it crashes?
[18:11] <danand> Boohbah - /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:11] <grims> Boohbah, found nothing
[18:11] <grims> Boohbah, http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf8
[18:11] <totorious> bonjour je cherche un utilitaire comme logmein qui fonctionne sur linux
[18:11] <Pici> !fr | totorious
[18:11] <ubotu> totorious: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:11] <Jahromeo> !grub
[18:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:11] <totorious> quelqu'un peut m'aider??
[18:11] <grims> bonjour, parlez vouz anglais?
[18:11] <Boohbah> grims: there you go, 'grep SYSRQ /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:11] <Slart> algul: I have no idea what you just said to me in private.. I don't speak whatever language that was
[18:11] <RoAkSoAx> grims, install sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[18:11] <alteregoa> parlez vouls bananarama?
[18:12] <SunRayCafe> I've added synergy to my session to autorun the program when the user logs in. But, I need it to run using sudo. Is that possible?
[18:12] <Pici> !en
[18:12] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[18:12] <Slart> !fr | totorious
[18:12] <ubotu> totorious: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:12] <markf> !windows
[18:12] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[18:12] <Koheleth> grims: try the cpu manufacturer, they release programs like that
[18:12] <alteregoa> heh
[18:12] <Slart> grims: sure.. there are lots of little applets for doing that.. probably even some console based stuff.. lm_sensors or something like that
[18:12] <grims> Boohbah, that printed: CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
[18:13] <Boohbah> grims: sudo apt-get install conky
[18:13] <alteregoa> someone tried to update the kernel to 2.6.25?
[18:13] <Boohbah> grims: that's an ice system monitor, it will show you temperature
[18:13] <Boohbah> *nice
[18:13] <danand> markf - mooooo!
[18:13] <grims> RoAkSoAx, thank you
[18:13] <quittt> how many hours do we have till the next Ubuntu?
[18:13] <iRelinquish> 0?
[18:13] <alteregoa> yeah temperature
[18:13] <briansvgs> networkmanager doesn't seem to be autoconnecting to networks like it did in previous versions of ubuntu. is this a bug (sometimes it autoconnects, but often you have to go in and connect to the network using the nm menu (click on icon-->click on wifi network)
[18:13] <alteregoa> why?
[18:13] <Koheleth> you can have the rc now
[18:13] <Bidget> I was linked to http://wiki.awn-project.org/ but I can't actually find a download link and I can't find it in the repository... anyone?
[18:13] <grims> Boohbah, do you suggest lm_sensors or conky
[18:14] <RoAkSoAx> grims, after install do: sensors-detect and then YES to ALL
[18:14] <alteregoa> tell torwalds to put the lm-sensors into the kernel
[18:14] <iRelinquish> bidget, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[18:14] <Boohbah> grims: i think conky uses lm_sensors for its backend... it depends if you want a gui or not
[18:14] <Bidget> oh ok hahaha I was looking for the acronym
[18:14] <Bidget> duhhh
[18:14] <Boohbah> alteregoa: why?
[18:15] <Slart> grims: start with lm_sensors.. conky is just pretty colors and bling bling =)
[18:15] <DJones> Bidget: You need to enable your Backports repository first, then use the sudo apt-get install command
[18:15] <Bidget> ok quick question, lets say I use the command line to install something with sudo apt-get install, does it automatically install the dependencies like if I use the gui?
[18:15] <Bidget> backports.... k
[18:15] <Boohbah> Bidget: yes
[18:15] <RoAkSoAx> grims, follow this: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[18:15] <Bidget> ok cool
[18:15] <SunRayCafe> Bidget, it's going to determine dependencies and ask you to approve installing them
[18:15] <grims> RoAkSoAx, Slart, Boohbah: thank you!
[18:15] <Bidget> gotcha
[18:16] <grims> Slart, after configuring lm_sensors, what do I do now?
[18:16] <Bidget> so about the backports repository is that included in universe or multiverse or whatever?
[18:16] <DJones> !backports | Bidget
[18:16] <ubotu> Bidget: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[18:16] <grims> !lm_sensors
[18:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm_sensors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:16] <pen> anyone know the most complete icon set ever in ubuntu?
[18:16] <pen>  most consistent
[18:16] <erUSUL> !sensors
[18:16] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:16] <Boohbah> Bidget: it's a separate repo called backports
[18:16] <RoAkSoAx> grims, follow check this out, all the things you should do after are here ... http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[18:16] <yggwork> hello, i have what i think is a data corruption problem. ihave fscked and its all clean... http://pastebin.com/m4ced4ee9
[18:16] <Bidget> I see
[18:16] <alteregoa> meowbuntu, the catOS
[18:16] <grims> Thanks
[18:16] <Slart> grims: I think there's a console command to get the temperatures
[18:16] <alteregoa> PetBuntu, the OS for Zoophiles
[18:17] <Slart> !info sensors
[18:17] <jack__> bye
[18:17] <Bidget> ah just gotta add a line to a sources.list I see
[18:17] <Bidget> thanks
[18:17] <ubotu> Package sensors does not exist in gutsy
[18:17] <Pici> alteregoa: Do you have a support question?
[18:17] <alteregoa> yeah
[18:17] <Pici> !offtopic | alteregoa
[18:17] <ubotu> alteregoa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:17] <j2daosh_> anyone know of a room where i can get info on shrinking home movies from 100 megs down to like 5?
[18:17] <alteregoa> i tried to ask something about the Kernel in hardy
[18:17] <Koheleth> is it me or does kde4 look naff!
[18:17] <Boohbah> yggwork: user eagle is in the wheel group?
[18:17] <Slart> grims: try running "sensors" in a terminal.. I think it's included in lm_sensors
[18:17] <Bidget> I like how someone asks a question and nobody answers and as soon as he says one thing offtopic 10 people jump on him
[18:17] <Bidget> =\
[18:17] <yggwork> boohbah yes
[18:17] <Pici> alteregoa: Hardy support is in #ubuntu+1 not in #ubuntu
[18:17] <alteregoa> i need 2.6.25
[18:17] <Bidget> alteregoa, hardy support is #ubuntu+1
[18:17] <briansvgs> the bluetooth on my dell vostro 1400 still isn't working (didn't work in gutsy either). it is the dell 355. I have heard that this can be fixed by installing xp, but I really don't want to install it. is there another way?
[18:18] <yggwork> boohbah how do i check ?
[18:18] <alteregoa> pici, until tomorrow?
[18:18] <Pici> alteregoa: Until tomorrow, correct.
[18:18] <grims> Slart, I just ran it -- its at:              +28°C
[18:18] <alteregoa> ok then i wait another 20 hours
[18:19] <grims> Slart, is there a way to have it monitor actively?
[18:19] <sploby> does anyone know how to set dual-head on ati driver?
[18:19] <Bazoo> I'm having trouble getting rsync working with rssh - did anyone get it working in here?
[18:19] <Boohbah> !smartmontools
[18:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartmontools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:19] <Bazoo> sftp and scp are working just fine, it's just the rsync
[18:19] <Slart> grims: try running "watch sensors".. it will refresh every 2 secs by default
[18:19] <Boohbah> yggwork: smartmontools
[18:19] <alteregoa> the sucessor of hardy? laurel?
[18:19] <Boohbah> yggwork: hd diagnostic tools
[18:19] <Bidget> so.... how do I add the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to the end of my sources.list file??
[18:20] <Bidget> if I click on it it just opens up the window, its not a text file
[18:20] <Boohbah> alteregoa: i'm going for 'Inconsiderate Ibis'
[18:20] <Bidget> wait, never mind, Im retarded
[18:20] <grims> Slart, Ok, I am watching -- what is a "crashable" temp for the cpu?
[18:20] <pir> 80/90 degrees
[18:20] <pir> celcuis
[18:20] <Boohbah> grims: above 70C i'd say
[18:20] <Slart> grims: btw.. that watch command works with almost everything console based.. you could run "watch ls" to get a file listing every 2 secs.. if you want that =)
[18:20] <brosen> IDENTIFY Lythinia
[18:20] <Slart> grims: 70-ish..Celsius or so
[18:21] <grims> its at a steady 27-30C
[18:21] <Boohbah> brosen: nice, now everyone knows your password!
[18:21] <sploby> Please.... i really try every thing
[18:21] <Pici> brosen: Please change your nickserv password
[18:21] <brosen> Boobsh: Nah, It's the wrong one. I can never remember it ;-)
[18:21] <Slart> grims: ok.. sounds like we can rule out temperature then..
[18:22] <Koheleth> hehe
[18:22] <grims> Slart: :\
[18:22] <Boohbah> sploby: i don't use ATi but you may have better results with newer drivers installed through envyng. 'sudo apt-get install envyng'
[18:22] <Koheleth> brosen: whod ya bank with mayey
[18:23] <Teo-> i have changed the terminal icon.. how can i restore it to its default ?
[18:23] <Raff7> !peak
[18:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:23] <goamind> hi guys
[18:23] <Raff7> oh lol there is no peak here
[18:23] <goamind> i am using ubuntu for 3 years
[18:23] <Baby_Shambl3s> 'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other apps like that available to me?
[18:23] <Bidget> so I enabled the backports repository, but when i tried sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator it told me it couldn't find the package
[18:23] <goamind> but never cam to this problem
[18:23] <goamind> I want to buy a dell laptop
[18:23] <goamind> but it is designed for vista
[18:23] <Seveas> goamind, which model?
[18:23] <goamind> and I do not want to buy it
[18:23] <goamind> and then find out that I cant install ubuntu on it
[18:23] <sploby> boohbah:  couldn't find package
[18:23] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:23] <goamind> 1720 lets say
[18:24] <Boohbah> goamind: better check for linux hardware support then...
[18:24] <Seveas> goamind, dell sometimes sells without OS, but it's not cheaper. Better buy one with ubuntu preinstalled :)
[18:24] <goamind> i dont find one
[18:24] <goamind> in Romania
[18:24] <goamind> all are with vista
[18:24] <Bidget> you can buy a dell laptop with ubuntu pre-installed?
[18:24] <brosen> Koheleth: ?
[18:24] <goamind> cant I just install ubuntu over it?
[18:24] <goamind> yes u can bidget
[18:24] <Bidget> oh what
[18:24] <goamind> but from dell themselves
[18:24] <Slart> grims: is there some way you can make it crash? try running fsck to start with.. then try somethnig cpu intensive.. something that plays with graphics.. etc
[18:24] <FloodBot2> goamind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <goamind> me personally I dont find in romania
[18:24] <Boohbah> sploby: enable the universe repo. !universe
[18:25] <Boohbah> !universe | sploby
[18:25] <ubotu> sploby: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:25] <Bidget> I guess you'll have to install it yourself then
[18:25] <Bidget> so I enabled the backports repository, but when i tried sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator it told me it couldn't find the package
[18:25] <Slart> grims: just to try to isolate what is going wrong
[18:25] <goamind> but can i?
[18:25] <grims> Slart, just run fsck from terminal and see if it does it?
[18:25] <Rajec> HI I need to run on server Tomcat 6 (or if this isn't possible some other java web application server ) and
[18:25] <goamind> will it find all those drivers?
[18:25] <Slart> grims: sure..
[18:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> 'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other apps like that available to me?
[18:25] <goamind> many tryed to install xp and couldnt for example
[18:25] <Boohbah> Bidget: did you make sure to update after adding the repo?
[18:25] <Bidget> goamind, I'm not really an expert or anything you'd have to ask someone else, but I dont really see why you wouldn't be able to install ubuntu on it
[18:25] <Bidget> Boohbah, update... ah
[18:26] <Bidget> Boohbah, when you said refresh I just hit f5 lol
[18:26] <goamind> because of all the drivers cooked for vista
[18:26] <goamind> and maybe only for vista
[18:26] <DJones> Bidget: sudo apt-get update first
[18:26] <Slart> grims: there are special software that does these things.. burn-in-tests.. but fsck on a drive should work
[18:26] <Boohbah> Bidget: there will probably be hardware issues with the dell laptop
[18:26] <Bidget> ah
[18:26] <grims> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[18:26] <grims> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[18:26] <Bidget> thats too bad
[18:26] <Boohbah> goamind: so you will have to research every piece of hardware...
[18:26] <Slart> grims: do not run fsck on your root drive!!
[18:26] <grims> Ohhhhhhhhh
[18:26] <grims> Phew
[18:26] <Bidget> cause dell laptops are pretty cheap for the amount of hardware that you get
[18:26] <clarjon1> Hi there.
[18:26] <grims> Crisis averted
[18:26] <Slart> grims: do it on some kind of empty usb drive first.. or create a partition to play with, if you've got the space
[18:27] <sploby> ubotu: i can see that my video card is a restrict drive, but when i enable the drive it ask for restart and when i do ubuntu can't load (just a black screen)
[18:27] <CarlFK> firefox page says "you need flash 9" - what package do I install ?
[18:27] <clarjon1> Fresh install of lynx web browser insists on opening google homepage in Abiword, anyone know why, and/or how to fix?
[18:27] <Boohbah> grims: why are you fscking?
[18:27] <Bidget> sploby, what card do you have and what version of ubuntu?
[18:27] <thoreauputic> !flash
[18:27] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:27] <grims> Boohbah, trying to do something intensive to see if it will crash
[18:27] <Baby_Shambl3s> 'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other docking stations that i could use?
[18:27] <Bidget> sploby, I had to get a program called envy to install my video drivers
[18:27] <Slart> Boohbah: just trying to provoke a crash from his computer
[18:27] <CarlFK> thoreauputic: thanks
[18:28] <_3mendo> does any one had a problem with finger print (Uspash) ??
[18:28] <Pici> !envy | Bidget sploby
[18:28] <ubotu> Bidget sploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:28] <Boohbah> grims: my guess is your kernel crash is probably cause by some binary driver, like graphics or wireless... do you use any of those binary drivers?
[18:28] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[18:28] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:28] <sploby> but "sudo" can't find the package
[18:28] <grims> Boohbah, no wireless -- but I have onboard graphics
[18:28] <CarlFK> thoreauputic: even better
[18:28] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: :)
[18:28] <Bidget> well sudo is actually just a command that gives you administrator privileges
[18:28] <Boohbah> envyng | sploby
[18:28] <clarjon1> sploby: sudo apt-cache search <package name>
[18:29] <Boohbah> !envyng | sploby
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envyng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <noodlesgc> does anyone know if the intel 965 will be unblacklisted in Hardy?
[18:29] <thoreauputic> sudo is not needed for apt-cache search, by the way
[18:29] <Boohbah> !envy | sploby
[18:29] <ubotu> sploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:29]  * Boohbah fails ubotu
[18:29] <Boohbah> grims: ati or nvidia binary drivers?
[18:30] <grims> Boohbah, no idea -- pretty sure nvidia, how would I check from term?
[18:30] <Boohbah> grims: lsmod |grep nvidia
[18:30] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[18:30] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:30] <clarjon1> Any ideas?
[18:30] <sploby> no nothing
[18:30] <goamind> I am totally confused
[18:30] <grims> Boohbah, that returned nothing
[18:30] <goamind> is this a general thing for laptops?
[18:30] <Teo-> i have changed the terminal icon.. how can i restore it to its default ?
[18:31] <Boohbah> lspci | grep VGA
[18:31] <grims> Ati returned: cpufreq_conservative     8072  0
[18:31] <Boohbah> grims:  ^
[18:31] <grims> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[18:31] <Pici> goamind: Its a general thing for all computers
[18:31] <rwycuff> goamind:waht issue you having withlaptop
[18:31] <Boohbah> goamind: laptops especially because they use more specialized hardware..
[18:31] <clarjon1> Any ideas why the lynx text web browser wants to open google.com in AbiWord?
[18:31] <Baby_Shambl3s> so im guessing i cant use docking apps like AWN without conky or beryl... but their must be other apps that do the same but dont rely on conky/beryl, can someone suggets soemthing :(?
[18:31] <Siftin-Com> when I install some rpms using yum, do they actually get downloaded at some place on my local machine, I guess yes, if yes, than where
[18:31] <sploby> is there other way besides re-writing the xorg.conf?

[18:32] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: that's a weird one...
 I want to buy a dell with vista pre-installed
[18:32] <clarjon1> I know
[18:32] <goamind> and I am not sure I can properly install ubuntu after
[18:32] <GuySoft> hey all, a question - when 8.04 will be out. would the upgrade packages be out too? will i be able to apt-get upgrade?
[18:32] <Pici> Baby_Shambl3s: Conky has nothing to do with awn or beryl or compositing.
[18:32] <Boohbah> Baby_Shambl3s: superkaramba if you like kde :)
[18:32] <goamind> without driver problems
[18:32] <BobSapp> Guys i deleted my /tmp directory can you show me the access rights i should set on it please?
[18:32] <bicz> goamind: i did it
[18:32] <BobSapp> also user/group
[18:32] <clarjon1> The package was installed not long ago, and, of course, my first try was lynx google.com...
[18:32] <rwycuff> goamind:VIsta BAd idea to begin with just buy it with ubuntu installed
[18:32] <balgarath> Any web developers in here? Was wondering what you all use to see what a design looks like in IE?
[18:32] <goamind> I am all ears
[18:32] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: look in /etc/mailcap - I think lynx is confused and using something for html that it shouldn't
[18:32] <bicz> compaq 6720s
[18:32] <goamind> i cant buy it
[18:32] <clarjon1> Want me to get a screenshot of what happens?
[18:32] <goamind> with ubuntu
[18:33] <BobSapp> ls -lg / | grep tmp
[18:33] <goamind> out of the question
[18:33] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: I expect lynx uses /etc/mailcap for mime associations
[18:33]  * Siftin-Com question: when I install some rpms using yum, do they actually get downloaded at some place on my local machine, I guess yes, if yes, than where
[18:33] <rwycuff> goamind:why not??
[18:33] <eeeandrew> anyone help me install a .tar.bz2 file?
[18:33] <goamind> because i am in romania
[18:33] <clarjon1> ok.
[18:33] <grims> Boohbah, do you think it is the driver?
[18:33] <goamind> and I need to buy it from a store
[18:33] <Pici> Siftin-Com: Ubuntu does not use yum or rpms for package management
[18:33] <goamind> and i dont think i can find what i want and also with ubuntu
[18:33] <clarjon1> i'll still grab the screenshot, however :P
[18:33] <Pici> !enter
[18:33] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:33] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: but why it should make an exception for rendering google I have no idea :)
[18:34] <sploby> i'm on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy, my video card is ATI radeon x1650proAGP
[18:34] <rwycuff> goamind:buy apple MBP then you can put every OS on there and have nice shinny laptop
[18:34] <Boohbah> grims: an ATi driver? that could be the trouble.
[18:34] <clarjon1> I haven't dared to try other sites, to be honest, as I don't want to clog up the ssh connection I'm on :P
[18:34] <grims> Boohbah, no Ati -- it was VGA
[18:34] <grims> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[18:34] <Boohbah> oh, VIA S3
[18:34] <clarjon1> but, brb, gonna get a screenshot of it.
[18:34] <goamind> u say on an apple I can have ubuntu??
[18:34] <ng0n> Boo: Thanks man. Saved my butt !!
[18:34] <BobSapp> CAN SOMEONE RUN THIS COMMAND AND PM ME THE RESULT PLEASE?  ls -lh / | grep tmp
[18:34] <Pici> goamind: Take a look here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/  I used this site to help me figure out what laptop to buy when I was looking for one.
[18:34] <Pici> !caps | BobSapp
[18:34] <ubotu> BobSapp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[18:35] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: heh A browser that tries to send html to a helper app - very strange :)
[18:35] <Boohbah> grims: i believe that card is well supported by the kernel... with an open source driver
[18:35] <BobSapp> -__________-
[18:35] <goamind> tks pici
[18:35] <Bidget> I've been reading around on the forums and I see a lot of threads like "problem after upgrading to 7.xx, it worked before and now it doesn't" when I upgrade to 8.04 tomorrow or friday, will I probably be in a similar situation? I would hate to think that after finally getting my computer the way I want it I'd have to do it all over again... :(
[18:35] <Boohbah> grims: so now i am stumped..
[18:35] <eedge> How can I have vnc working before login? normal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.
[18:35] <goamind> so its true that not any laptop is ubuntu friendly
[18:35] <d4t4min3r> can anyone help me
[18:35] <eeeandrew> can anyone tell me what argument to use with the tar command when extracting a .tar.bz2 file?
[18:35] <kitche> Boohbah: unichrome drivers are tricky just like the ati ones are
[18:35] <rwycuff> goamind : if you use thier boot campsoftware you can setup OSX/ubuntu/Vista partitoins an 3x boot the mac
[18:35] <Boohbah> eeeandrew: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2
[18:35] <Pici> BobSapp: drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 4.0K 2008-04-23 07:41 tmp
[18:35] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: so how come i cant use AWN, it doesnt show on my desktop and im sure i read it needs compiz but could be mistaken?
[18:35] <sipior> Bidget: wait two weeks, most of the flagrant bugs will be gone.
[18:35] <Bidget> sipior, phew
[18:35] <Bidget> hahaha
[18:35] <BobSapp> thanks Pici
[18:35] <goamind> sounds cool
[18:36] <Pici> Baby_Shambl3s: Yes, AWN requires compiz, but not conky
[18:36] <BobSapp> deleted my /tmp dir
[18:36] <bicz> Baby_Shambl3s: run it in a terminal and see the output
[18:36] <goamind> so u recommend apple
[18:36] <Bidget> Pici, I've just installed AWN, but I can't find it to configure or anything...
[18:36] <sploby> So is any way?
[18:36] <rwycuff> goamind: and personally would rather support apple myself over dell
[18:36] <goamind> didnt take this into consideration
[18:36] <clarjon1> Ooh, this time lynx gave an output...
[18:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> Boohbah: nah superkaramba is kde and im trying to stay away from widgets, messing with screenlets and gdeskltes was enough for me
[18:36] <clarjon1> screenshot, and a pastebin :P
[18:36] <goamind> how about the drivers on it?
[18:36] <goamind> dont I also need drivers?
[18:36] <Pici> Bidget: I really dont use awn, so I'm not sure how to configure it
[18:36] <Boohbah> !envy | sploby
[18:36] <goamind> how does ubuntu work on it?
[18:36] <ubotu> sploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:36] <Bidget> Pici, ah ok np
[18:37] <grims> !unichrome
[18:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unichrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:37] <eeeandrew> boohbah: thanks that works. for my knowledge could u give me a rough idea of what the xjvf does?
[18:37] <rwycuff> goamind ,yes let me look around i know there is a guide for the drivers and such
[18:37] <Boohbah> sploby: 'sudo apt-get install envyng'
[18:37] <Ace2016> Hi all
[18:37] <goamind> tks!
[18:37] <kitche> eeeandrew: it's all in man tar but with tar you do not need the j or the z anymore really
[18:37] <Ace2016> anyone here use wicd?
[18:37] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: isnt that what i stated in my question... what other apps available like AWN are available that dont require the use of compix or beryl?
[18:37] <oholiks> hi, is there an "incoming web" like incoming.debian.org for ubuntu?
[18:37] <Ace2016> I can't connect to my hidden network
[18:38] <Boohbah> eeeandrew: x - extract, j- bz2, v- verbose, f- file
[18:38] <Baby_Shambl3s> bicz: no point its a compiz thing my SiS card cant handle
[18:38] <rwycuff> goamind, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[18:38] <Pici> Baby_Shambl3s: You said conky, but I guess it was a typo
[18:38] <Boohbah> Baby_Shambl3s: superkaramba
[18:38] <Pici> Boohbah: envyng is only in Hardy.
[18:38] <Boohbah> Baby_Shambl3s: and the kde 4 equivalent!
[18:39] <Boohbah> Pici: i wasn't aware, thanks :)
[18:39] <gogeta> 1 day left :)
[18:39] <eeeandrew> boohbah thanks again. Although I@m now having trouble with the install. I've got it extracted but when I changed into the folder and tried "make" it said no make file found
[18:39] <rwycuff> goamind, the only  thing they got wrong there was the vid card isnt ati its nvidia in the mbp but the normal nvidia linux driver should work for it
[18:39] <elventear> Hello. I am migrating a  IPSEC connection from an old OpenBSD box to Ubuntu. OpenBSD uses isakmpd for IPSEC while, it seems to me, on Linux the KAME implementation is more popular. But there is isakmpd on Linux. So I was wondering if any of you guys might have a suggestion why I should use one or the other? For now I suppose that by using isampd on Linux would allow me to transfer everything verbatim from the OpenBSD box
[18:39] <kitche> eeeandrew: ./configure maybe?
[18:39] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: did i? geez spelling is guetting worse by the minute, but yeah I meant AWN isnt there anything i can use that acts similar to AWN?
[18:40] <Boohbah> eeeandrew: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[18:40] <sipior> elventear: that's a pretty good reason
[18:40] <gogeta> elventear i would assume yes
[18:40] <Bidget> has anyone configured AWN before?
[18:40] <Boohbah> eeeandrew: what are you compiling?
[18:40] <Bidget> sorry dumb question, can anyone help me configure AWN?
[18:40] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: URL for the screenshot? This is intriguing...
[18:40] <Baby_Shambl3s> Boohbah: no no KDE stuff for me just want to remain gnome or semi cli if i can but yeah ive seen it and its not what i'm looking for
[18:40] <Pici> Baby_Shambl3s: I think that cairo-dock does not require compiz
[18:40] <Rajec> Hi is possible to install on Ubuntu server 1, Tomcat 6.0 2, Postgre(there is already right?!) and cron ?
[18:40] <sploby> boohbah: E: Couldn't find package envyn
[18:40] <eeeandrew> the ./ configure got another error says its not a tcl-dev package
[18:40] <Pici> Bidget: You can try asking in #awn
[18:41] <Bidget> oh right on
[18:41] <Bidget> thanks again haha
[18:41] <kitche> eeeandrew: youneed to get the tcl-dev package most likely
[18:41] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: will check it out, is that the only one?
[18:41] <Boohbah> sploby: how about 'sudo apt-get install envy' ?
[18:41] <thoreauputic> Rajec: I guess so - cron is already there, and I think you need Java for tomcat, right?
[18:41] <eeeandrew> kitche: that mean I downloaded the wrong thing?
[18:41] <clarjon1> alright
[18:41] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: I guess all the kl apps all depends on compiz geez so one sided
[18:41] <Boohbah> Rajec: yes
[18:41] <Pici> Baby_Shambl3s: I think theres one other, but I dont remember the name
[18:42] <clarjon1> screenshot: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8508/screenshot5ef8.png  pastebin: http://clarjon1.pastebin.com/m3133a072
[18:42] <sploby> boohbah: E: Couldn't find package envy
[18:42] <Rajec> thoreauputic: I need tomcat for Java ;)
[18:42] <Dim__> Hey there, guys (and girls).  Does anyone know what the direct download link to 8.04 will be once it's released @6hrs from now?  The reason I'm asking is so I can instruct my DL manager to download at a certain time, so when I step in the office tomorrow I'll have the .iso on my desktop.  Thanks.
[18:42] <kitche> eeeandrew: no you need to install the tcl-dev package that is in the repo most likely
[18:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pici: np at least I gt something to try out
[18:42] <Boohbah> sploby: what release of ubuntu are you using?
[18:42] <thoreauputic> Rajec: whatever :)
[18:42] <sploby> boohbah: Gutsy 7.10
[18:42] <gogeta> eeeandrew http://www.ipsec-howto.org/x496.html
[18:42] <eeeandrew> kitche: so do sudo apt-get install tcl-dev?
[18:43] <Rajec> OK thanks guys. I would like to ask if anybody has experience making backup Postgree database on external disk  by cron
[18:43] <gaucho> What is the best program to edit images in ubuntu? How can I install it?
[18:43] <gogeta> :)
[18:43] <clarjon1> gaucho: I like the gimp
[18:43] <kitche> eeeandrew: I do not know the name of the package have to look for the correct name
[18:43] <sipior> Dim__: you could probably infer the new download link from the one for Gutsy.
[18:43] <Boohbah> sploby: enable the universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:43] <Boohbah> !universe | sploby
[18:43] <ubotu> sploby: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:43] <seamus7> Dim__ better to just download now the RC and update .. once the official is released downloads are often extremely slow
[18:43] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: wow, lynx is really confused!
[18:43] <gaucho> clarjon1, thank you man! I will try it !
[18:43] <unop> Dim__, you can download 8.04 now, install it and do your updates .. your system will be no different to someone downloading 8.04 tomorrow and installing it
[18:43] <clarjon1> thoreauputic: i know
[18:43] <Boohbah> sploby: after that, 'sudo apt-get update' then try to install envyng again
[18:43] <gogeta> elventear that was for you oops
[18:44] <kaur> hi
[18:44] <elventear> gogeta: Thanks
[18:44] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: did you check /etc/mailcap ? But even then, this Shouldn't Happen (tm)
[18:44] <grims> Boohbah, any more tricks up your sleeve? ;]
[18:44] <clarjon1> thoreauputic: I know, it's definatly a Bad Thing.
[18:44] <clarjon1> Lemme see
[18:44] <clarjon1> What should i be looking for?
[18:44] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: indeed :)
[18:45] <jagggy> where do i find proxy's that work with ubuntu?
[18:45] <kaur> I am trying to compile device:usb module for perl and get an error: A problem was encountered while attempting to compile and install your Inline C code. The command that failed was: make What can be the problem?
[18:45] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: I suspect there's a bogus entry fro text/html or similar in /etc/mailcap
[18:45] <powertool08> i have 7.04, does anyone know if i can skip gutsy and go straight to hardy or will i have to upgrade twice?
[18:46] <clarjon1> hmm...
[18:46] <Boohbah> grims: do you get any useful information when your system locks? like a kernel oops? anything printed on the console?
[18:46] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: maybe grep for  abiword :)
[18:46] <clarjon1> reference to firefox in there...
[18:46]  * clarjon1 is using eye-grep
[18:46] <Sinnerman> can i have two different versions of a package side by side?
[18:46] <LinuxGuy1234> powertool08: upgrade to Gusty then Hardy, it's safer
[18:46] <Spydon> install one in opt Sinnerman
[18:46] <powertool08> LinuxGuy1234: ok, thanks
[18:47] <jagggy> where do i find proxy's that work with ubuntu?
[18:47] <gogeta> LinuxGuy1234 smoking pile of runes!!!(joke)
[18:47] <Boohbah> jagggy: privoxy works
[18:47] <grims> Boohbah, nothing at all :(
[18:47] <Sinnerman> Spydon: how do i do that? say i got a .deb file from the repos, and downloaded a more recent one i want to try out without having to uninstall the previous one that i know works pretty much how i want it to?
[18:47] <jagggy> Boohbah, on ubuntu? :s
[18:47] <clarjon1> hmm...
[18:47] <Spydon> Sinnerman, I actually dont know ^^
[18:47] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: what is your designated alternative for www-browser?
[18:47] <thoreauputic> clarjon1:  sudo update-alternatives www-browser
[18:47] <thoreauputic> oops
[18:47] <FloodBot2> thoreauputic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <thoreauputic> that should be sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser
[18:47] <sploby> boohbah: Universe was already enable
[18:48] <grims> Boohbah, how can I view syslog/kernal log from terminal?
[18:48] <grims> It says command not found
[18:48] <thoreauputic> huh? How was that a flood ??
[18:48] <clarjon1> text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html
[18:48] <gogeta> firefox is the one and only
[18:48] <Spydon> Sinnerman, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231130
[18:48]  * thoreauputic larts FloodBot2
[18:48] <clarjon1> oops, pasted into wrong window...
[18:48] <kitche> thoreauputic: since you posted three lines in a row most likely same timestamp
[18:49] <kitche> thoreauputic: it only goes off on three lines it seems :)
[18:49] <thoreauputic> kitche: pedantic bot
[18:49] <eTiger13> how can i completely remove firefox and all traces of it? removing it via synaptic leaves parts of it. firefox will not ever think it has been restarted so i cant add/remove add-ons
[18:49] <NeoGeo64> where can i find a list of games ported to linux
[18:49] <Sinnerman> Spydon: thanks. let me have a look at that link of yours.
[18:49] <gogeta> eTiger13 why would you do that
[18:49] <clarjon1> What does copoiusoutput inthe mailcap file mean?
[18:50] <gogeta> NeoGeo64  http://www.happypenguin.org/
[18:50] <clarjon1> eTiger13: remvoe your .mozilla/firefox directory in your home directory
[18:50] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: it usually means to use a pager ( less for example)
[18:50]  * Randocal just googled for how to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy and is amazed at how simple it is.
[18:50]  * clarjon1 nods
[18:50] <sipior> eTiger13: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[18:50] <sploby> boohbah: main, universe, restriccted, multiverse is enable
[18:50] <gogeta> eTiger13 apt-get --purge remove package
[18:50] <cgentry72> has anyone used DOSBox emulator. I'm having troubles telling it what to mount.
[18:50] <clarjon1> i'll pastebin the mailcap file.
[18:50] <sipior> eTiger13: although, i suspect that will remove more than you want...
[18:50] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: for example, translating html in mail and piping it to  "less"
[18:50] <spowers> is anyone else having trouble with the binary nvidia driver in hardy after an upgrade from gutsy? i cannot get the kernel module to load.
[18:51] <sploby> boohbah: Download from: Main Server
[18:51] <clarjon1> cgentry72: You do the mounting inside the emulator...
[18:51] <clarjon1> cgentry72: It gives help inside the emulator, on how to do it.
[18:51] <cgentry72> clarjon1, right. it's not letting me mount anything
[18:51] <eTiger13> sipior, how so?
[18:51] <clarjon1> cgentry72: You do have access to what you are trying to mount?
[18:51] <cgentry72> clarjon1, i've done it before in windows but i think i have the path wrong or something
[18:51] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: what was the designation in  sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser ?
[18:51] <cgentry72> clarjon1, yes
[18:52] <Boohbah> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[18:52] <sipior> eTiger13: there may be dependencies on firefox. ubuntu-desktop, for example. best to leave it where it is, frankly.
[18:52] <Boohbah> sploby: try getting it directly from the site
[18:52] <cgentry72> clarjon1, if the directory is c:\oldgames isn't it mount c c:\oldgames?
[18:52] <Boohbah> sploby: choose envy legacy, download the .deb, install it
[18:52] <clarjon1> thoreauputic: Don't have sudo privs on this account
[18:52] <NeoGeo64> The connection has timed out
[18:52] <NeoGeo64> The server at www.happypenguin.org is taking too long to respond.
[18:52] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: ah
[18:52] <thoreauputic> ok
[18:53] <eTiger13> sipior, not really. its all screwed up so i cant add anything to it
[18:53] <clarjon1> What file will hold that configuration, however?
[18:53] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: run www-browser and see what starts
[18:53] <gogeta> odd site must be down atm
[18:54] <gogeta> try later
[18:54] <sploby> boohbah: Error - Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central
[18:55] <clarjon1> hmm, man www-browser takes me to the lynx manpage....
[18:55] <grims> Boohbah, i think i found something in the syslog
[18:55] <grims> Boohbah, http://pastebin.com/m3e063590
[18:55] <Boohbah> sploby: sudo apt-get install python-central
[18:55] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: something is screwed in the config on that system - complain to root :)
[18:55] <JPS> will Hardy beta automatically upgrade to full release version tommorrow?
[18:56] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: oh, you ran man ?
[18:56] <Pici> !final > JPS (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:56] <jerico2day> hey all, i've a quick question about 8.04 desktop edition coming out soon, will it support raid natively during the install? (couldn't find the answer at ubuntu.com)
[18:56] <thoreauputic> then lynx is www-browser
[18:56] <Boohbah> grims: ahh great! kernel oops due to null pointer dereference
[18:56] <alteregoa> is there a gnome-theme to get scientologists out of my computer?
[18:56] <Pici> jerico2day: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:56] <jerico2day> thanks
[18:56] <grims> Boohbah, is that the culprit?
[18:56] <thoreauputic> alteregoa: we can all wish...
[18:56] <susanoo> JPS, not automatically
[18:56] <Boohbah> grims: defintely
[18:56] <susanoo> you type it in
[18:56] <sploby> boohbah: python-central is already the newest version
[18:57] <Pici> !offtopic > alteregoa (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:57] <sploby> boohbah: It is allways tricking us ^_^
[18:57] <clarjon1> thoreauputic: root doesn't really know what to do, either :P
[18:57] <Boohbah> sploby: did you get envy legacy and not envyng??
[18:57] <Pici> !guidelines > alteregoa (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:57] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: heheh - so root != $DEITY   ;p
[18:57] <Boohbah> sploby: now read here to find out what it means: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking :-)
[18:58] <clarjon1> lol
[18:58] <clarjon1> Want me to pastebin the mailcap, to see if there's any errors in it?
[18:59] <Rajec> is there any big differences between server ubuntu and classical ubuntu? I am asking if I can study about using server ubuntu from desktop sources
[18:59] <thoreauputic> clarjon1: you can pastebin it, but I have to go so someone else will have to look
[18:59] <clarjon1> ok
[18:59] <koro> um, i have a fat32 partition which is not showing up when i go to places -> computer in gnome, why could this be and how could i add it?
[18:59] <Boohbah> Rajec: the server edition lacks X and the graphical environments
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Rajec, You could always install the server edition and add a desktop to it
[19:00] <spowers> Rajec: gui tools won't apply to the server environment.. instead of update-manager, you would use apt-get and so on
[19:00] <Boohbah> Rajec: and you can install a server from a desktop CD, and vice versa
[19:00] <grims> Boohbah, so what do you think I should do (besides googling Kernel oops) ;]
[19:00] <blue|palm> hi, ive installed my ati driver but xvinfo reports that xv isnt working  (no adaptors present it says) what can I do?
[19:01] <Boohbah> grims: try an older kernel
[19:01] <blue|palm> the driver is fgrlx 8.3...
[19:01] <Juanux> hello
[19:01] <Boohbah> grims: have you always had this issue?
[19:01] <grims> Boohbah, I just installed ubuntu 2 days ago and have had it since the installation
[19:02] <Boohbah> grims: this link is for you:  http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking
[19:02] <blue|palm> !xvinfo
[19:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:02] <blue|palm> !xv
[19:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:02] <Boohbah> grims: ok, still, try an older kernel
[19:02] <Pici> !msgthebot
[19:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:02] <clarjon1> xiv?
[19:03] <armadill0> question: I added my user to the www-data group in /etc/group.  But `groups` doesn't show me as a member of that group... whats going on?  Do I need to refresh group membership or something?  thanks
[19:03] <blue|palm> sorry
[19:03] <Blice> I just upgraded to 8.04, and I have a problem. Only my active window has a border around it. I.E, if I click on another window, it gets borders and the other window's borders dissapear. Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:03] <Pici> Blice: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:03] <grims> Boohbah, Which kernel do you recommend I try?
[19:03] <Boohbah> armadill0: you need to logout and login to read /etc/group
[19:03] <eeeandrew> Boohbah, kitche: thanks a lot for your help earlier. I've been learning the apt-get stuff so this ended up being a useful exercise
[19:03] <Boohbah> grims: 2.6.22-14
[19:03] <armadill0> Boohbah: thank you!
[19:04] <grims> Boohbah, I am using 2.6.22-14 i believe
[19:04] <Rajec> wow so no gui in server edition ?
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> correct
[19:04] <Juanux> hola alguien puede ayudarme !
[19:04] <Boohbah> Rajec: gui's waste valuable ram that could hold more database tables :)
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > Juanux
[19:04] <Flare183> !es | Juanux
[19:04] <ubotu> Juanux: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:04] <giesen> is there any way to have gnome execute a command when the screensaver is activated?
[19:05] <Juanux> necesito ayuda !
[19:05] <ubuntucool123> Rajec: You can install gui by entering in terminal "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[19:05] <Juanux> i need help !
[19:05] <Boohbah> Rajec: really, a gui just gets in the way when managing a server
[19:05] <Boohbah> Juanux: hablas ingles?
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Juanux, Ask.. in english.. all on one line as complete as possible
[19:06] <Pici> Juanux: You need to ask a question in english or join #ubuntu-es
[19:06] <Juanux> si tambien !
[19:06] <Juanux> ok thank you
[19:06] <grims> !es | Juanux
[19:06] <Creationist> I've plugged in my mp3 player via usb and dmesg reports it has connected (as a high speed USB device), but I can't mount it.
[19:06] <Juanux> im from argentina !
[19:06] <ubotu> Juanux: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:07] <Juanux> chau see you !
[19:08] <christopher> i have flash installed for mozilla but i still can't play videos on youtube.com
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> christopher, how did you install flash and what version of firefox and 32 or 64 bit
[19:09] <christopher> Jack_Sparrow, 64 bit latest firefox, flash already installed
[19:09] <ba5e> hi I have a wierd problem with certain video - te colour layers are aligned lower giving a strage image
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> christopher, HOw did you install flash
[19:10] <Boohbah> ba5e: what kind of video card, which driver?
[19:10] <sente> fuse came installed on the VPS i'm using, but i couldn't get it to work, i kept getting "the device is not ready" errors (when trying to use truecrypt), so i built fuse2.7.3 from scratch. I was warned Fuse is already intalled so it it couldn't build it in Kernel mode.  Now when I try and use truecrypt I get a diff error: "Error: No loopback device available" ... how can i uninstall or roll-back my fuse build?
[19:10] <Dusk_> hi i've just installed ubunt 8.04rc..how can i have hoe and system icons on my desktop???
[19:10] <finalbeta> I'm going to buy a new server board, onboard graphics. Not sure If I wanna do an intel motherboard. I'm thinking of an asus one. But it seems to feature a XGI® Z9s onboard graphics controller. Anyone knows how supported this is?
[19:10] <Rajec> Boohbah: hh :) this will be VERY VERY interesting :D
[19:10] <koro> can someone help me bring back my partition to places->computer?
[19:11] <ba5e> Boohbah: ATI x1950 Pro, driver: xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:11] <gribouille> hi
[19:11] <Dusk_> hi i've just installed ubuntu 8.04rc..how can i have home and system icons on my desktop???
[19:11] <koro> it's a fat32 partition and it's not showing up there
[19:11] <Pici> Dusk_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:11] <finalbeta> Or where would I go with this? don't wanna spend that much money and end up with another badly supported board
[19:11] <koro> (it's automounted tho because i added it to my fstab)
[19:11] <gribouille> will hardy heron differ from the rc ?
[19:11] <doxid> Hey guys, is there a way to mount a HDD into a directory allready containing files and folders without putting the new HDD "ontop" of all the files/folders.
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64 > christopher
[19:11] <Boohbah> ba5e: so that is the open source ati driver? have you tried any of the binary ati drivers?
[19:12] <mkultras> i have an hp dv1000 laptop and i want to send a fax with my modem i cant see any modem in my dmesg do you think its a winmodem ?
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mkultras, probably
[19:12] <Boohbah> doxid: yeah, just make a new folder and mount it there
[19:12] <gribouille> doxid, what do you mean with "ontop" of all the files/folders ?
[19:12] <melter> i just installed 8.04, does anyone know if firefox 3.0b5 has all the security fixes from 2.0.14?
[19:12] <ba5e> Boohbah: nope, have shyed away from them because of poor compiz performance withouth XGL
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[19:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[19:13] <Boohbah> ba5e: can't you use fglrx?
[19:13] <doxid> Boohbah, point is i whant the HDD to be mounted in a folder together with all other folders.   like /home/doxid
[19:13] <koro> please?
[19:13] <doxid> gribouille, well say i #mount /dev/sda1 /home/doxid
[19:13] <Boohbah> melter: you could find out in the firefox release notes on their site
[19:14] <frawfraw> FUCK!
[19:14] <mut80r> drives must be mounted on an empty folder.
[19:14] <doxid> gribouille, my desktop and other things will be "hidden" :P
[19:14] <melter> Boohbah: ok, thanks
[19:14] <Boohbah> doxid: hmm, i think you might want to look into LVM for that... allows more than one drive to be combined logically to appear as one
[19:14] <Pici> !language
[19:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:14] <ba5e> Boohbah: oops, sorry for my last post, I am using xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:15] <gribouille> will hardy heron differ from the rc ?
[19:15] <melter> Boohbah: do you have a link?
[19:15] <Boohbah> ba5e: i wish i could help more, but i've never used ati or their drivers :(
[19:15] <doxid> Boohbah, will check it out : ) thx.
[19:15] <ba5e> Boohbah: I will try the ATI one then and see what happens
[19:15] <Boohbah> melter: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/3.0b5/releasenotes/
[19:15] <xanax`> in consolde, how can I know if a package is installed ? like the fedora command : rpm -qa | grep packagename
[19:15] <Eli_> Hi i ran into strange bugs after upgrading to hardy today. It looks like it is PolicyKit/Dbus related. Anyone here who can help ?
[19:16] <Boohbah> gribouille: yes
[19:16] <Pici> xanax`: dpkg -l packagename
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Eli_, /join #Ubuntu+1
[19:16] <Pici> Eli_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:16] <doxid> Boohbah, "root on LV should be used by advanced users only".. heh a challenge :D
[19:16] <xanax`> thanks Pici
[19:16] <Eli_> thx
[19:16] <gribouille> Boohbah, what's the diff ?
[19:16] <melter> Boohbah: 2.0.14 was released after 3.0b5, so that doesn't really answer my question
[19:17] <andriijas> is it possible to update gutsy to hardy with apt-get yet?
[19:17] <Pici> andriijas: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:17] <gribouille> doxid, check the --bind option
[19:17] <Boohbah> gribouille: probably just fixes, but you can find out at official release read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/
[19:17] <andriijas> Pici: thx
[19:17] <robd> Has anyone had trouble updating today? I'm stuck on "Waiting for headers"
[19:17] <Boohbah> melter: how could an older release contain fixes from a newer release?
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, updating or upgrading
[19:18] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Updating
[19:18] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Just getting the latest patch lists, not all the packages
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, gutsy?
[19:18] <gribouille> Boohbah, I don't see anything about the diffs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/
[19:18] <melter> Boohbah: if ubuntu applied the security fixes to it's 3.0b5 build
[19:18] <Boohbah> melter: anyways, i believe the 2.x and 3.x code bases are being developed independently
[19:18] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I basically hang on security.ubuntu.com...
[19:18] <Boohbah> gribouille: no, just wait a few hours until the release
[19:18] <gribouille> will hardy heron contain firefox 2 ?
[19:19] <robd> gribouille: Firefox 3 I believe
[19:19] <eTiger13> beta has 3 beta
[19:19] <eTiger13> and switching it back to 2 doesnt work
[19:19] <gribouille> robd, I can contain both
[19:19] <mrakos> hello
[19:19] <Pici> eTiger13: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, I just ran update and went throguh fine
[19:19] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Hrm, maybe my internet is weird
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, any changes to the sourcelist
[19:20] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Nope, all default
[19:20] <Boohbah> melter: hmm, i am poking around here for answers... http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/firefox-3.0
[19:20] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Just curious, would the HardyHeron list have issues?
[19:20] <Boohbah> melter: there is a diff from 3.0
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, I just ran it with us repos and came up with no problems
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, yes
[19:20] <mrakos> how can i burn cd if i boot from live cd ... i can eject cd but i cant burn another ... any ideas how can i do it ?
[19:21] <mkultras> lspci says i have an ac'97 modem controller can i send a fax with this you guys think ?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, Which is why I asked if you were running hardy
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mrakos, do you have a usb stick around..
[19:22] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: I'm running Gutsy, but I was just curious if updates would kill the list
[19:22] <mrakos> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but this computer hasnt boot from usb :/
[19:22] <robd> Jack_Sparrow: Ahh... I've got 6000ms ping times, something is wrong
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> robd, if you are running gutsy you should not have any problems with updates..
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mrakos, there are lots of ways to get around your hardware issue
[19:24] <dmsuperma1> Hi alll
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome
[19:24] <mrakos> Jack_Sparrow: hmm and thats right way is wich?
[19:25] <gribouille> are there any problems installing the rc ?
[19:25] <blackvd> I just upgraded to hardy and now emerald isn't running on boot. I have to run emerald --replace from alt+f2 does anyone know how I can have it start on login?
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mrakos, install your live to the hard drive, borrow a friends pc, copy the iso to the usb and burn it fgrom another os
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > blackvd
[19:26] <blackvd> thanks
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:26] <mrakos> Jack_Sparrow: hmm that isnt so easy way
[19:27] <Boohbah> what file contains the setting for the default display manager?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mrakos, Order a free cd.. it can be mailed to you...  in any case, it is not a support issue..
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Boohbah, xorg.conf
[19:27] <enneth> Does anyone know a way of setting a maximum connections limit in rTorrent?
[19:28] <Bazoo> I got rssh working with sftp and scp, but rsync won't work. Gives me "error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(359)"
[19:28] <Boohbah> Jack_Sparrow: no, that's wrong, but i did figure it out
[19:28] <Bazoo> Anyone have experience with rsync and rssh?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Boohbah, in gutsy .. xorg.conf has your settings.. what is wrong.?
[19:28] <C_Kode> Anyone use bitchx?
[19:29] <bicz> C_Kode: sure
[19:29] <Boohbah> Jack_Sparrow: xorg.conf does not contain a setting for which display manager is started... that is controlled by system boot scripts
[19:29] <psych> No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released.
[19:29] <psych> still true?
[19:29] <Boohbah> psych: i hear it's UTC
[19:30] <psych> utc?
[19:30] <Boohbah> gmt
[19:30] <psych> Boohbah, so it will happen tomorrow?
[19:30] <enneth> Yes.
[19:30] <NukeSkyjumper> how do you tell udev to rescan devices? just created a new partition, but there's no device for it in /dev
[19:31] <Pici> psych, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[19:31] <Boohbah> psych: as soon as 5 hours from now...
[19:31] <psych> oic
[19:31] <__max_> i killed firefox (it locked up) and now xmms wont play since it says something is allocating the sound driver.
[19:31] <psych> just asked that coz i downloaded xubuntu to install
[19:31] <Boohbah> psych: but there is no reason to wait for the official release to install
[19:32] <__max_> what would be the steps to check what is alocating it?
[19:32] <psych> so its then to wait
[19:32] <psych> and get the new one
[19:32] <Whitor> join #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <Whitor> sry
[19:32] <psych> Boohbah, why not?
[19:32] <Boohbah> psych: no just install it and update packages and it will be identical to the release
[19:32] <Boohbah> psych: because you will get current packages from the repos
[19:33] <Bidget> hey can anyone give me a hand Im just editing a png in gimp and Im wanting to know how to delete something so that its transparent
[19:33] <psych> Boohbah, will i need to apt-get update?
[19:33] <Bravewolf> Hello all! How can I access to the menu (the upper part of the window) in Gnome using the keyboard and not the mouse?
[19:33] <sploby> boohah: Me again, just install envy and envyng, but still nothing
[19:33] <Boohbah> psych: yes
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[19:33] <Boohbah> sploby: you got envy installed?
[19:33] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:33] <sploby> boohbah: yes
[19:33] <kostas2505> hello to everybody!
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome
[19:33] <Boohbah> sploby: did you try to install your driver with it?
[19:34] <sploby> boohbah: yeah, and when restart just appear a black screen. and i have to cp xorg.conf to run normally
[19:35] <kostas2505> it is possible to help regarding youtube video down?
[19:35] <gnubie> Bravewolf, I believe it's the alt key plus whatever character is underlined in the menu you want
[19:35] <eedge> is there a way to login gdm from ssh?
[19:35] <C_Kode> bicz: how do you switch windows if you are in split screen?  It always complains saying it's not hidden.  Well, I know that, but I want the other window to have focus/
[19:35] <eedge> just realised I can't remote desktop to my server after a reboot without logging it in.
[19:35] <Boohbah> sploby: cp xorg.conf? to where?
[19:35] <bato_rio> hi all
[19:35] <eedge> and I can't log in, because I can't vnc
[19:35] <DanikarPN> kostas2505: You mean the videos arn't playing for you?
[19:35] <eedge> :(
[19:36] <bicz> C_Kode: u can try with irssi is more simple than bitchx
[19:36] <Rajec> btw guus I want to install Ubuntu server On one of the particions of my disk. I have two disk one is system only and second is for dat I want to instal Ubuntu server on Data only disk. COuld I somehow delete othere data on other particions ?:)
[19:36] <sploby> boohbah: cp xorg.conf-backup to xorg.conf
[19:36] <bicz> so i remember i use /j #chan and bitchx switch chan's
[19:36] <Bravewolf> gnubie: thanks! It works well. And to access to the Gnome menù (Applications, Resources, System)?
[19:36] <kostas2505> are playing ok but is possible to store in hd?
[19:36] <C_Kode> bicz: Thats what someone else just told me.  I guess I will be looking into it.  Thanks.
[19:36] <gnubie> Bravewolf, alt+f1
[19:37] <Boohbah> sploby: you have to edit xorg.conf depending on which driver you use
[19:37] <C_Kode> bicz: Thats what someone else just told me.  I guess I will be looking into it.  Thanks.
[19:37] <DanikarPN> kostas2505: There are websites that are dedicated to downloading youtube videos. Search google for Download Youtube Video.  Then you need to find a FLV player to play the videos. Or you can convert them using a video converter.
[19:37] <C_Kode> Whoops
[19:37] <Bravewolf> gnubie: again, thanks a lot! It works perfectly!
[19:38] <Ergo^> hey guys
[19:38] <Ergo^> i think we can talk about hardy here
[19:38] <rwycuff> Ergo^:hi
[19:38] <doxid> if i'm using LVM and trying to add the / partition (hdb1) i get this error message:   "/dev/hdb1 not identified as an existing physical volum"
[19:38] <kostas2505> DanikarPN:thank you very much for your quick response!
[19:38] <mut80r> Hardy:  #ubuntu+1
[19:38] <gnubie> Bravewolf, yw
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Ergo^, Ubuntu+1 thanks
[19:38] <sploby> boohbah: after all envy stuff, i thought that envy was a atternative to not edit xorg
[19:38] <jeffimperial> hello everyone.. how do i get hardy?
[19:39] <DanikarPN> jeffimperial: If you go to Ubuntu.com there is a link to where you can obtain it
[19:39] <Boohbah> sploby: no, envy is a script to install drivers
[19:39] <Fawzib> question: anyone knows if dovecot 1.0.10 in Hardy comes with the managesieve patch? is there a way to check?
[19:40] <kostas2505> DanikarPN: one last thing because i am new in this way of communication,how am i shown in ? because i think i am shown as :#ubuntu-gr on irc.ubuntu.com
[19:40] <sploby> boohbah: now i have to edit xorg.conf, do you have a link HowTo
[19:40] <Boohbah> !xorg
[19:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:40] <jeffimperial> Danika: yeah.. i meant final release...
[19:40] <Boohbah> !xorg.conf
[19:40] <agibby5> i'm having a great deal of issues in hardy.  when i launch firefox, and press the control key, it crashes, when i press any key in a new terminal it crashes... any ideas/
[19:40] <jeffimperial> Danika: is it available yet?
[19:40] <peppe40> ciao
[19:40] <agibby5> also, my shift, windows, and contrl keys dont work as expected
[19:40] <lazarus__> were do i get themes for mandreva
[19:41] <DanikarPN> kostas2505: Sorry not sure what your question is. I just looking at your nick(kostas2505)
[19:41] <Boohbah> agibby5: do you see any useful error messages running firefox from a terminal?
[19:41] <agibby5> Boohbah: when i start the terminal, and try to type the 'f', the terminal crashes....
[19:41] <lazarus__> ??
[19:41] <kostas2505> ok ,ok thanks!!
[19:41] <mikefizz> hi, i just put ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop, and i have another computer that has 7.10 also, how can i transfer the settings from my computer to my laptop
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> agibby5, /join #Ubuntu+1
[19:42] <DanikarPN> jeffimperial: It is a release canidate untill sometime tommarow when it is offically released.
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > DanikarPN
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > mikefizz
[19:42] <lazarus__> were do i get themes for mandrevia
[19:42] <technow__> where is grub located
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[19:42] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:42] <DanikarPN> Jack_Sparrow: I was like, ok thanks?
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:43] <jeffimperial> Danika: a few hours more of waiting, i guess.. i'm in the Ph so i mistook timezone factors.. sorry
[19:43] <eedge> how would I install VNC so that it works with GDM from term?
[19:43] <sculework> is there a way of adjusting how wide an area the scroll function on a touch-pad covers?
[19:43] <sculework> its a synaptics
[19:43] <DanikarPN> jeffimperial: yeah I am not sure if it is released at a specific time, so within the next 24 hours or so probably.
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !touchpad
[19:43] <agibby5> Jack_Sparrow: joined, thanks
[19:43] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:44] <peppe40> #15 loggia011
[19:44] <sculework> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, is it doable?
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sculework, Honestly dont kow.
[19:44] <Fawzib> Anyone knows if dovecot 1.0.10 in Hardy comes with the managesieve patch? Is there a way to check?
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Fawzib, /join #Ubuntu+1
[19:44] <Robert125> can i update ubuntu with the desktop (not alternate) CD?
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Robert125, no
[19:45] <sculework> Jack_Sparrow: OK, I just get that annoying unwanted cube spin when using it a little too often :)
[19:45] <cgentry72> i'm trying to run frostwire but everytime i click on the icon nothing happens and I have java installed
[19:45] <Fawzib> ok, thanks
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72, try running from a terminal and looking for an error message
[19:46] <^root^> is ubuntu gonna release at GMT?
[19:46] <^root^> coz its already 12 here... :(
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ^root^, no time has been determined
[19:46] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, sorry what command would that be
[19:46] <vicentecarro> Hi
[19:46] <vicentecarro> in 8.04, where is the .trash folder?
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72, open a terminal and type frostwire
[19:46] <^root^> Jack_Sparrow: but i can find download link for 8.04 :(
[19:47] <jesus_> BARÇA VS MANCHESTER
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[19:47] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[19:47] <anirudhbsg> i used the live cd but it did not work properly then i used the alternate cd through which i could install ubuntu but again the same problem -the system goes into the hang state
[19:47] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, thinks it's using the wrong version of java
[19:47] <anirudhbsg> can any one help
[19:47] <freezey> whats a good frontend web client for ftp..
[19:47] <blivori> Is there a ctrl + alt + delete shortcut for ubuntu?
[19:47] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'm using 1.6 as in the repos
[19:47] <blivori> I can't close this window/application
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudhbsg, run live cd... At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:48] <sileni> blivori, i think there is a kill command
[19:48] <SkinnYPupp> blivori: System monitor in the system menu
[19:48] <HymnToLife> blivori: killall <name of app>
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72, what version of frostwire are you using
[19:48] <blivori> HymnToLife: isn't there a hotkey or something?
[19:48] <sileni> Jack_Sparrow, doesnt stopping acpi cause problems like overheating
[19:49] <bitraiser> blivori, CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to restart X window
[19:49] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, 4.13.5
[19:49] <balgarath> Any web developers in here? Was wondering what you all use to see what a design looks like in IE?
[19:49] <anirudhbsg> is it because of some gui  problem
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sileni, It hasnt for me... on several installs..  if that is what is hanging the system it wont work anyway
[19:49] <bitraiser> balgarath, google for  IES4Linux
[19:49] <sileni> is ubuntu i386 same as i686?
[19:49] <Disgruntldtote> What is the possibility of someone helping me with my Ubuntu/webcam issue?
[19:49] <sileni> like is there ubuntu i686 ?
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72, where did you get it.. not from the repos.. so I suggest you go there and read their faq.
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[19:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:50] <balgarath> bitraiser, thanks :)
[19:50] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, no it's not in the repos nor is limewire :(
[19:50] <Disgruntldtote> I have been there
[19:50] <blivori> bitraiser: i dont wantt orestart xwindow
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !frostwire
[19:50] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[19:50] <Disgruntldtote> My camera IS working, but everything has a blue hue to it
[19:50] <SkinnYPupp> blivori: system, administration, system monitor is what you are after
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> balgarath, before using ies4linux I would ask that you /join #Winehq and see how they feel about it.
[19:51] <blivori> SkinnYPupp: thx babe
[19:51] <SkinnYPupp> sure
[19:51] <blivori> :)
[19:51] <SkinnYPupp> there is  a ctl+alt+del installable but I think it only launches the systemmonitor
[19:51] <bitraiser> blivori, then switch to your TTY2 for example ( CTRL + ALT + F2 ) and kill the PID of the application and switch back to your GUI via CTRL + ALT +F7
[19:51] <balgarath> Jack_Sparrow, how would they feel?
[19:52] <doxid> ohoh : ) how do i shrink a partition that i'm currently using :P i wanna shrink down the /  (root) from 200GB to say 50 : )
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> balgarath, The topic of WIne says they wont help you if you have used it
[19:52] <DanikarPN> doxid: Use gparted
[19:52] <Disgruntldtote> Do you have any other places I should check to try and resolve my blue hue webcam problem?
[19:52] <doxid> thx DanikarPN :) will check it out
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> balgarath, they consider it on the same level we used to feel about automatix before that script was abandoned
[19:53] <balgarath> Jack_Sparrow, does it mess things up with wine? Or they dislike using a linux port of a windows app when people should use wine to install the real IE?
[19:53] <DanikarPN> doxid: Yeah it is super simple, so should be good
[19:53] <balgarath> Jack_Sparrow, what did automatix do?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> balgarath, Ask them
[19:53] <SkinnYPupp> nothing you want
[19:53] <balgarath> Jack_Sparrow, will do
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> balgarath, automatix broke thousands of systems
[19:54] <SkinnYPupp> yep I learned the hard way
[19:54] <doxid> aah gparted :D thats a lovely tool! it's avalible for a boot-cd with only gparted and X too i'f i'm not mistaken
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[19:55] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program.  Ksynaptics, adjust borders, was a little tricky at first but I got it
[19:56] <arooni_> Jack_Sparrow, so you are pretty sure this is a battery problem?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[19:56] <arooni_> Jack_Sparrow, i mean hardware problem
[19:56] <diogo> hi speak some one ducht?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni_, not a battery problem.. charger or connection issue
[19:56] <Disgruntldtote> OK, IM STILL HAVING MY WEBCAM PROBLEM, ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni_, the os should not have anything to do with the charging circuit...
[19:57] <balgarath> Disgruntldtote, lay off the caps
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps > Disgruntldtote
[19:57] <bitraiser> arooni, easy to find out, boot into BIOS, see if your battery charges up in there, if it ain't, most definitely hardware related (whether it be a connection, PSU or any other related type of issue)
[19:57] <Disgruntldtote> give me a break, I have been in here 10 minutes and you people have been ignoring me. I already tried polite
[19:57] <Disgruntldtote> Laptop charging issues dont sound like an Ubuntu problem to me
[19:58] <Frijolie> how do remove OOo as the default .pdf viewer? I've checked "preferred applications" and can't see anything in there
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni_, your battery should charge without the laptop even turned on or running
[19:58] <z0d> hello
[19:58] <Dusk_> Boohbah: it restarted again now :(
[19:58] <Frijolie> everytime I try to open a .pdf file OOo tries to view it and can't...I want to set "Document Viewer" as the default .pdf viewer
[19:58] <balgarath> Disgruntldtote, Nobody in here is getting paid to help anyone, your best bet is to give them a break
[19:58] <bitraiser> balgarath, amen
[19:58] <cabrioleur> Frijolie, right click on pdf file, properties, and open with.
[19:59] <Disgruntldtote> I understand this, but it is just polite to answer someone when they ask a question. If you dont know, say "Sorry, I do not know"
[19:59] <lixomancem> Hello, I'm doing some tests with "tc" so I can use it later to implement QoS. My most basic test is basically limiting any and all access to 15kB/s. This is being done on a computer that is correctly configure as a gateway with NAT. The problem is, I've run these commands: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but nothing is happening, the download speeds are still exceeding the imposed limit....
[19:59] <lixomancem> ...Am I forgetting something?
[19:59] <Frijolie> cabrioleur: I'm aware of that one, as I have to do that everytime. Is there a way to make it permanent?
[19:59] <Disgruntldtote> Or perhaps, "Try here, this may be of some help"
[19:59] <Flannel> Disgruntldtote: do you really want 1400 people telling you they don't know?
[19:59] <z0d> do we know the exact time when Hardy will come out?
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Disgruntldtote, 1439 people do not need to tell you they do not know.
[19:59]  * Ruairidh sighs
[19:59] <Disgruntldtote> No, just 1
[19:59] <cabrioleur> Frijolie, it should be permanent if you do it in properties.
[19:59] <Flannel> z0d: no.
[19:59] <susanoo> Jack_Sparrow ?
[19:59] <bitraiser> Disgruntldtote, nope, you ask a question, if anyone knows the answer you're seeking, they will contact you or address their message at you, otherwise you've just have to keep trying while probably utilizing your searching powers with google
[19:59] <z0d> Flannel: Ok, thanks
[19:59] <Frijolie> cabrioleur: "properties"?
[19:59] <arcsky> When does ubuntu version coming ?
[19:59] <susanoo> do you use xchat or M.irc ?
[20:00] <cabrioleur> Frijolie, yes, the last option in the menu.
[20:00] <Pici> arcsky, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:00] <rwycuff> arcsky:when its out tomorrwo sometime
[20:00] <bitraiser> arcsky, when it's ready (TM)
[20:00] <adi112358> sorry if this may be a wrong question... what do you call the premature corn seeds that are made into corn flakes?
[20:00] <Flannel> arcsky: sometime within the next 40 hours or so.
[20:00] <Boohbah> Dusk_: is there anything useful from 'dmesg' ?
[20:00] <Flannel> adi112358: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for that
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> adi112358, offtopic
[20:00] <Boohbah> adi112358: what?
[20:00] <Frijolie> cabrioleur: ah, I noticed what you meant as soon as I typed the last question.
[20:00] <Frijolie> cabrioleur: thanks, that's what I was looking for!
[20:00] <Disgruntldtote> Ok then, does anyone know how to remove all webcam drivers and mods so that I can make sure mine is using the one I want it to use?
[20:01] <Frijolie> cabrioleur: silly me, I didn't think to look there...
[20:01] <SkinnYPupp> 24th ?
[20:01] <bitraiser> Disgruntldtote, what manufacturer/model of webcam?
[20:01] <Pici> SkinnYPupp: tomorrow depending on your timezone
[20:01] <SkinnYPupp> wrong channel sorry
[20:01] <SkinnYPupp>  thx
[20:01] <Disgruntldtote> Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX
[20:02] <pjoul> Disgruntldtote: does dmesg say something when you plug your webcamera in?
[20:02] <Disgruntldtote> Thanks for your help, I appreciage
[20:02] <d4t4min3r> hey
[20:02] <Dusk_> Boohbah: http://pastebin.com/m6807addb this is the dmesg output
[20:02] <Disgruntldtote> pjoul, Ubuntu sees it, and it will work, yet every program EXCEPT for Camorama has a blue hue to it
[20:02] <ivze> Good day! Which time UTC Hardy Heron is going to be released?=)
[20:02] <Pici> ivze, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:03] <Disgruntldtote> It comes up in lsusb no prob
[20:03] <lixomancem> I have run the following commands for the "tc" tool http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but they seem to be completely ignored. What gives?
[20:03] <Boohbah> Dusk_: aha! see line 418 and 419 says that compiz is segfaulting
[20:03] <Disgruntldtote> Also im running Hardy right now
[20:03] <Boohbah> ivze: anywhere from 0 to 24 hours :)
[20:03] <pjoul> Disgruntldtote: that's bad. have you got any idea how to solve it?
[20:03] <Dusk_> Boohbah: how can i get pass it?? i don't use compiz
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Disgruntldtote, then you should be asking in #Ubuntu+1
[20:03] <doxid> DanikarPN, you can't resize / while running the OS :/
[20:03] <Boohbah> Disgruntldtote: you better join #ubuntu+1 or these people will murder you
[20:04] <Disgruntldtote> Then to Ubuntu+1 I shall go. Thanks
[20:04] <unenough> Hi, how do I control which video driver X uses? in xorg.conf there is no "DRIVER" line for the video device
[20:04] <unenough> how does Xorg know which driver to use?
[20:04] <Boohbah> Dusk_: turn off compiz
[20:04] <cabrioleur> unenough, it's in the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file.
[20:04] <Boohbah> unenough: the Driver line
[20:04] <Dusk_> Boohbah: how?? i don't use compiz anyway
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> unenough, You must be running hardy
[20:05] <atob> Has anybody had problems with grub in hardy recently?
[20:05] <unenough> Jack_Sparrow: correct, sorry i'll go to +1 (until tomorrow : )
[20:05] <Frijolie> word to the wise: don't click on external links in IRC. lest you risk gettin' "Rick Rolled"
[20:06] <Lardarse> Frijolie: that + consider using noscript
[20:06] <Pici> atob: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[20:06] <Boohbah> !compiz
[20:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> msg Disgruntldtote, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563617
[20:06] <Lardarse> !ubuntustudio
[20:06] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[20:06] <Boohbah> Dusk_: your log says compiz is running
[20:06] <Frijolie> Lardarse: even if they claim to be "dmsg output debugging tools"
[20:07] <Dusk_> Boohbah: ok ok i disabled it
[20:07] <Lardarse> Frijolie: ouch
[20:07] <Dusk_> Boohbah: thanks a lot
[20:07] <Boohbah> Lardarse: ubuntu studio? i never knew! thanks!
[20:07] <caleb_> when i upgrade to hardy heron, will my home folder stay safe?
[20:07] <Lardarse> Boohbah: i looked that up for my benefit, not yours :-P
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> caleb_, yes
[20:08] <mnemo> caleb_: yes, but it might overwrite some config files
[20:08] <Sake> So as far as security goes, is it safer to put ubuntu 6.04 in production because it's had a longer run or am I smarter to use the late release coming out tomorrow? What's the philosophy on that? doesn't apt-get update 6.04 to the latest release anyways?
[20:08] <Frijolie> "you're no stranger to love. You know the rules...and so do i..."
[20:08] <caleb_> thank you, also will i have to reinstall and configure ndiswrapper, because it's a pain in the but to do it
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Sake, read up on updates....  I would wait for another day
[20:08] <dts> what's the difference between Gnome Safe mode and regular mode, I can log in with safe mode but regular does not work
[20:08] <dts> how do i debug?
[20:09] <cabrioleur> Sake, until tomorrow 6.06 is LTS, so it is still supported :-)
[20:09] <Flannel> Sake: 6.06 will not automatically upgrade to anything, once 8.04 comes out, it will offer, but you won't be forced
[20:09] <lixomancem> Sake: I think that tomorrow's release is a good bet, since it is a LTS that is going to be supported officially for 3 years. But yeah, wait a week or so before installing it.
[20:09] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> What is compiz.real?
[20:09] <Boohbah> Sake: i don't think 6.04 is supported anymore, so i wouldn't use it
[20:09] <Flannel> cabrioleur, Sake, After tomorrow 6.06 is still LTS, and still supported for another year.
[20:09] <SkinnYPupp> 6.06 is
[20:09] <Pici> cabrioleur, Sake: even after tomorrow 6.06 will still be supported for quite a while
[20:09] <Boohbah> oh
[20:09] <tannewt> mechanism is used for suspend in Hardy?
[20:09] <lixomancem> 1 more year, actually
[20:09] <Pici> tannewt: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[20:09] <stefg> !lts
[20:09] <Lardarse> yeah, for another year or so
[20:09] <Frijolie> Sake: Hardy 8.04 is going to be LTS
[20:09] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > tannewt
[20:09] <lixomancem> I have run the following commands for the "tc" tool http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but they seem to be completely ignored. What gives?
[20:09] <stefg> !DAPPER
[20:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[20:10] <Frijolie> !hardy
[20:10] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[20:11] <tannewt> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, I got it, I just accidently hit this channel with the palm of my hand
[20:11] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> What is compiz.real?
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:11] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> Can I remove it?
[20:11] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> It is hogging resources
[20:11] <mmm4m5m> How to batch convert size of few photos (resize)?
[20:11] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> imagemagick
[20:11] <Pici> Kcaj[UBuntu]: compiz.real is the real version that compiz (a helper script) calls
[20:11] <Sake> so what does LTS mean anyways? That it will have to the minute updates of security fixes by the ubuntu team?
[20:11] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> What does the compiz do?
[20:12] <Pici> Sake: Yep
[20:12] <Boohbah> !lts
[20:12] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[20:12] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> It seems to at up the most when I move windows around
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !eyecandy
[20:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:12] <tonyyarusso> Kcaj[UBuntu]: just stop using compiz - System > Prefs > Appearance > Effects > None
[20:12] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, you need some filtering
[20:12] <Pici> !compiz | Kcaj[UBuntu]
[20:12] <ubotu> Kcaj[UBuntu]: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:12] <Sake> !lts
[20:12] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> nevermind
[20:12] <jeffMASTERflex> Kcaj[UBuntu]: compiz is a window manager. it does all the pretty desktop effects
[20:12] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> having my window warble around is definitely worth the 4% cpu usag eoccasionally
[20:12] <Sake> what does "Supported" mean? I thought support came from the community
[20:12] <Pici> Kcaj[UBuntu]: :)
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol > Sake
[20:13] <tonyyarusso> Sake: 1) You can buy support from Canonical and other vendors, 2) security updates
[20:13] <Pici> Sake: Ubuntu is completely community supported, but the community also are the ones who upload the security updates and whatnot.
[20:13] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, as in, you've set up the queue discipline... but you haven't done any filters to send traffic to the relevant traffic class. anyway, considered using the "shaper" package?
[20:13] <lixomancem> pvh_sa: but I wanted the limit to be applied globally. Shouldn`t the default rule do that for me?
[20:13] <stefg> Sake: security updates in ubuntu are always quick. But the LTS versions receive them for 3 years (on desktop) so if running dapper you still get your Firefox 1.5 fixed
[20:13] <LMJ> hello the chan
[20:13] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, not as far as i know
[20:13] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, you'd have to make a very broad filter for that
[20:14] <Sake> hrmm, ok. So why wait the week before installing HH?
[20:14] <lixomancem> pvh_sa: that is strange. then why does a default discipline even exist?
[20:14] <tonyyarusso> Sake: because if you don't know how to deal with pre-release software, you don't want to :)  It's only a day anyway, not a week.
[20:15] <DanikarPN> doxid: U still in here? gparted has a livecd, you can use that to do it.
[20:15] <Sake> yea, so basically I want to set up a machine with nothing but vmware server running on it. I have to decide whether to run the latest ubuntu or an older LTS like 6.04
[20:16] <gajan> hi
[20:16] <Sake> from what I'm hearing here, I should go for the latest
[20:16] <doxid> DanikarPN, i don't have any more CD's to burn :P
[20:16]  * izinucs is away: I'm having...... a break
[20:16] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, look at the example at http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.classful.html#AEN883
[20:16] <DanikarPN> doxid: oh noes, isnt that like a sin or something. lol
[20:16] <doxid> DanikarPN, so i'm planning on running the live-cd (install CD) and install LVM2 into the ram :P
[20:16] <blivori_> Whenever I try to install something it shows the URL of the repo and says connection refused
[20:16] <doxid> haha
[20:16] <blivori_> help plz
[20:16] <debasys> will there be a much difference between currect RC4 and final 8.04 ? want to download now to avoid rush
[20:16] <Pici> !away > izinucs (you're having... a private message from ubotu)
[20:17] <Nicekiwi9[zZz]> THEMES!!!
[20:17] <lixomancem> pvh_sa: yea I have been looking thru examples for a while... I tried creating a filter for port 80, and it still does not affect http file downloads
[20:17] <DanikarPN> doxid: I bet you could get it running from a USB drive if you had one.
[20:17] <doxid> off to try gparted install-cd style :P
[20:17] <doxid> haha ^^ i got pleny DanikarPN :P
[20:17] <tomd123> debasys: just dl tomarrow, everything will be working tomarrow ;P
[20:17] <doxid> well brb :)
[20:17] <dreamer_> guys. i know how to read mbr with dd command. But can i read the some other sector. Just one sector in the middle of HD? ty
[20:17] <gajan> i am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found
[20:17] <unop> debasys, not really, just make sure you get all the updates when you have finished installing
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> All Hardy testing questions in #ubuntu+1.  Release anticipation in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:17] <pvh_sa> lixomancem, yeah, its dark magic. try the "shaper" package? its a much more friendly frontend to this stuff
[20:17] <debasys> tomd123, he he right :)
[20:17] <Nicekiwi9[zZz]> more like release depression...
[20:17] <blivori_> So any help ?
[20:18] <caleb_> just out of curiosity, why does firefox make all the ! (exclamation points) bold?
[20:18] <mattperry> I'm new to ubuntu and wondered where to find the settings for 'single-click' as opposed to 'double-click' file opening etc?
[20:18] <habernet> is it possible to move AWN to the top of the screen?
[20:18] <lixomancem> pvh_sa: yeah, I have tried some frontends, one of them I gave a full go was tcng, but the rules are still being ignored for some reason
[20:18] <debasys> tomd123, cant stop the excitment ;)
[20:18] <Ximal> hey guys , how do I adjust my gamma /