[00:01] <stdin> acemo: give this a go "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)'|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"
[00:02] <stdin> and also well done acemo, yours is the very first support question for RC1 ;)
[00:02] <acemo> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d384a0760 theres the result of ur command
[00:02] <acemo> cool, im the first to screw up RC1
[00:03] <jackuess> am i the only one getting errors when trying to install kde4rc1?
[00:03] <vit_> hi
[00:03] <acemo> jackuess: i hope you didnt do what i did..
[00:03] <stdin> acemo: add "kdebase-workspace-bin libplasma1" to the end of the command
[00:03] <jackuess> i get errors conserning the kwin package
[00:03] <jackuess> my error messages is in swedish
[00:04] <stdin> jackuess: you did remove all the old kde4 beta package before installing the RC1 packages?
[00:04] <acemo> stdin: that seems to work, atleast its removing something :)
[00:04] <jackuess> yes
[00:04] <jackuess> at least i think so
[00:04] <stdin> jackuess: is it an apt-get error?
[00:04] <jackuess> yes
[00:04] <jackuess> dpkg: fel vid hantering av /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu2~gutsy2~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[00:04] <jackuess>  försöker skriva över "/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kcmkwm.png" som också finns i paketet kde4artwork-data
[00:05] <jackuess> the last line would be something like "trying to overwrite <the file>"
[00:05] <stdin> you didn't remove everything :p
[00:05] <acemo> stdin: were getting there :) Package kdelibs5 is not installed, so not removed
[00:05] <NickPresta> :wq
[00:05] <stdin> jackuess: give this a go "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)'|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"
[00:05] <NickPresta> damnit, wrong window with focus :)
[00:06] <stdin> acemo: that's ok, as long as there are no other errors
[00:06] <acemo> stdin: nope, it lets me install the new packages now
[00:06] <StFS> crap... my setup just stopped showing me the login screen when I start my computer up... I just get a console screen... but if I log into that and run "startx" then everything loads up great... I've tried looking at the logs but I can't find anything there (but I also don't quite know what logs I should be looking at... I've looked at the Xorg log, the kdm log, messages and syslog)
[00:06] <jackuess> that gives me an "unfullfilled dependencies error"
[00:06] <acemo> stdin: or atleast lets me download them
[00:06] <stdin> acemo: good, best way to install is "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[00:07] <acemo> stdni: im running that command atm
[00:07] <stdin> jackuess: put LANG=C before the apt-get command and post to pastebin
[00:08] <StFS> anybody got an idea of how I can figure out what's going on when my computer doesn't start X at startup?
[00:09] <jackuess> stdin: i managed to run the previous command you recomended
[00:09] <stdin> ok, if that gives no errors then run this
[00:09] <stdin> "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[00:09] <jackuess> should i try to install kde4 again?
[00:09] <jackuess> okay
[00:10] <jackuess> thx
[00:10] <acemo> stdin: at the step where u install kdm-kde4 it asks wich to use as default, u suggest to use kdm as default? only other option is kdm-kde4
[00:10] <jackuess> stdin: many thanks, now it worked
[00:10] <stdin> yeah, it doesn't matter as you'll be using the kde3 kdm
[00:11] <acemo> stdin: k
[00:11] <stdin> hopefully we'll have the rest of the RC1 up tomorrow, I'm uploading kdepim-kde4 now
[00:15] <acemo> okay.. should be installed now.. lets try it out ^.^
[00:15] <FroggyTheGreat> hmm
[00:16] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone here got Amarok to work with a Creative Zen Touch?
[00:17] <FroggyTheGreat> All I can find are tutorials for Edgy.
[00:20] <NickPresta> FroggyTheGreat, I assume the CZT uses the MTP protocol. If so, you should be able to use Amarok by setting up a new MTP device and then hitting "Connect" in Amarok when the ZT is connected
[00:21] <modjo> !libmysql-java
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmysql-java - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <modjo> im having troubles with my java-mysql connector. any ideas?
[00:22] <acemo> stdin: seems to work :) am in kde4 now
[00:22] <modjo> im having troubles with my libmysql-java JDBC connector. any ideas?
[00:23] <stdin> acemo: good to know :)
[00:23] <acemo> theres no K button tho.. (the start button thingy)
[00:23] <FroggyTheGreat> NickPresta - It doesn't find the device.
[00:24] <stdin> acemo: you have to add it, it's an applet
[00:24] <stdin> it may be a RC1, but it's still buggy
[00:24] <acemo> stdin: ahh alright
[00:25] <stdin> s/applet/plasmoid/ :)
[00:25] <sirina> hey yay! RC1 is in Kubuntu reps! :-)
[00:25] <stdin> sirina: almost
[00:25] <acemo> can u also add it to the task bar yet?
[00:25] <stdin> acemo: try it and see
[00:26] <stdin> sirina: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[00:26] <[ka]killer> hey
[00:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Hmm.  Gnomad2 worked, apparently.  Let's see if I can populate it.
[00:26] <NickPresta> FroggyTheGreat, is the CZT a MTP device or is it set to UMS? If it is indeed MTP, make sure you have libmtp installed and then make sure mtp-tools is installed. Then try connecting the device from the command line (mtp-connect). if that doesn't work, perhaps the CZT isn't supported
[00:26] <acemo> stdin: thingy is... right clicking on task bar does nothing
[00:26] <[ka]killer> bah nvm cant deal with this tonight
[00:26] <sirina> thx stdin. :-)
[00:27] <stdin> acemo: the task bar is a plasmoid too, some bits work others don't. right click the desktop to open the plasmoid adder (or use the little icon in the top right)
[00:27] <FroggyTheGreat> Lemme make sure about mtp-tools.
[00:28] <modjo> im having troubles with my libmysql-java JDBC connector. any ideas?
[00:28] <FroggyTheGreat> mtp-tools wasn't installed, adding now.
[00:28] <acemo> stdin: i got the K button on the desktop now, just cant seem to put it in the task bar
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> stdin- you know if KDE4 will make it over to the standard repositories before 8.04, or will it stay in a special repository you have to add manually?
[00:29] <stdin> acemo: like i said, it's still a bit buggy on the desktop side. you'll find some help in #kde4-devel
[00:29] <mot_> anybody know if there are libgpod 0.6.0 binaries out there?
[00:29] <mot_> i can't seem to compile from source. i'm getting very strange errors.
[00:29] <mot_> Making all in po
[00:29] <mot_> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mot/Desktop/libgpod-0.6.0/po'
[00:29] <mot_> file=`echo de | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
[00:29] <mot_>           && rm -f $file &&  -o $file de.po
[00:29] <mot_> /bin/sh: line 1: -o: command not found
[00:29] <mot_> make[2]: *** [de.gmo] Error 127
[00:30] <stdin> Dragnslcr: it'll be in gutsy-backports/universe sometime soon, and it'll be in universe in 8.04
[00:30] <stdin> !paste | mot_
[00:30] <ubotu> mot_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:30] <acemo> stdin: thanks, its great so far, just a few things left to fix but its no final yet :)
[00:31] <Dragnslcr> Is backports "pre-release" in Adept?
[00:31] <acemo> lol okay i shoudl not have done that... brb hehe
[00:32] <stdin> Dragnslcr: no, it's "Unsupported Packages"
[00:33] <stdin> Dragnslcr: RC1 isn't in there yet, you'll have to wait or use the repository from the announcement for now
[00:36] <stdin> for those that are stuck with installing the KDE4 RC1 see !brokenkde4
[00:36] <stdin> !brokenkde4
[00:36] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[00:36] <stdin> (all one line)
[00:37] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, Gnomad2 is what I needed, then.  Cool.
[00:37] <acemo> stdin: thats a nice one.
[00:37] <stdin> acemo: I have to sleep sometime so people can pester ubotu now :p
[00:37] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[00:37] <acemo> stdin: hehe =)
[00:38] <Dragnslcr> Will having KDE3 and KDE4 installed at the same time be a bit more idiot-proofed for the release?
[00:39] <stdin> well, probably not :p
[00:39] <Dragnslcr> I may try RC1 if I have free time in the next couple weeks. I'm asking about release stuff more for my girlfriend's laptop
[00:39] <stdin> that's why we say to remove all old kde4 package
[00:40] <stdin> if you have no kde4 package is just one apt-get install, if you have old package, it's my hacky command ^
[00:40] <stdin> then apt-get
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> So we'll be stuck manually setting the environment variables?
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> Or will the last "To run it as a full session install kdm-kde4..." step be the only thing required?
[00:41] <stdin> we may have a more elegant system in place by then
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> Heh, alright
[00:42] <stdin> but this is all pre-release and changing all the time, so having any system is impossible
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, understandable
[00:42] <acemo> think kubuntu 8.04 will have kde4 as default?
[00:43] <stdin> and we install it in it's own separate directory, so it doesn't interfere. thats why you need the exports, so the system knows where to look
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> It took me long enough to convince my girlfriend to accept Kubuntu for her new laptop. I'd be a bit worried about installing KDE4 for her if there isn't an easy way to get back to KDE3
[00:43] <stdin> acemo: not a chance in hell :)
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> acemo- definitely not
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> acemo- 8.04 is an LTS version
[00:43] <stdin> there will be special KDE4 (non-LTS) CDs  (or that's the plan)
[00:43] <acemo> hmm yeah.. for LTS it would be kinda really dared..
[00:44] <acemo> stdin: thats great =)
[00:44] <Dragnslcr> So even now, all that would be required to switch would be to copy the kde4.desktop file and add the export lines to startkde?
[00:45] <stdin> basically
[00:45] <stdin> that and a few sacrifices to the gods of KDE
[00:46] <stdin> oh, and I hope you all enjoy the svn konversation that will be installed when you update :)
[00:47] <stdin> I forgot to remove some old package from the archive and it's too late now :p
[00:47] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I'll wait a bit before switching from XChat then
[00:48] <NickPresta> How can I find out how many installed applications I have (not including libraries, etc)?
[00:48] <acemo> ohh crap, i knew it was a bad idea to try out rc1 in the evening.. 5 hours till my alarm goes off ;/
[00:49] <stdin> acemo: what? I haven't slept in two days getting these packages out and you're complaining about a few hours? :P
[00:50] <stdin> and it's already tomorrow
[00:50]  * tekteen has awakened from the grave
[00:51] <acemo> stdin: its just.. that always when i think of going to bed early.. i end up in bed late
[00:51] <stdin> when ever I think of going to bed...
[00:51] <stdin> I drink coffee
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> You have a coffee fund we should donate a few bucks to?
[00:52] <stdin> I could probably live off it (have been the last couple days)
[00:53] <stdin> I'll probably sleep until next year after I get these last few packages built
[00:54] <juacom99> hi
[00:54] <juacom99> someon here use kdetv??
[00:55] <Max-P> Hi all, can someone tell me how to disable the Power Manager?
[00:55] <stdin> right click > Quit
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> Hm, KControl doesn't have a power management section
[00:57] <Max-P> It starts each time a start my computer
[00:57] <Max-P> I want to completely disable it
[00:57] <stdin> remove kde-guidance-powermanager ?
[00:58] <Max-P> I will try
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> Are you talking about just the monitor turning off?
[00:58] <intRandom> how do you go about changing the size of your Xephyr session?
[00:58] <sven_> With what program can communicate over the serial port?
[00:58] <Max-P> I want to disable it because I get 2 betteries icons (The PowerManager and KLaptop)
[00:58] <Max-P> I want to keep the KLaptop one only
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[00:59] <sven_> I need to communicate with a sun server over a serial port
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> If you close it and it starts every time you log in, did you check to make sure you don't have it in your Autostart directory?
[01:00] <Max-P> Already checked
[01:00] <Max-P> It starts only on battery
[01:00] <stdin> Dragnslcr: it's in the system-wide autostart dir
[01:00] <Max-P> I will check
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[01:00] <Max-P> Where is the system-wide autostart dir?
[01:00] <stdin> /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Well, since I don't have a laptop, I'll just shut up now
[01:01] <Max-P> I have it!
[01:01] <biovore> sven_: minicom
[01:02] <stdin> you could remove kde-guidance-powermanager to uninstall it, if you just delete the file then it'll come back when kde-guidance-powermanager get's an update
[01:02] <biovore> sven_:  But you probably will need to know what your doing to use it..
[01:02] <Max-P> so I can remove the kde-guidance-powermanager package?
[01:03] <intRandom> stdin: how do you go about changing the screen size of your Xephyr session?
[01:04] <sFEARs> hello
[01:04] <stdin> intRandom: Xephyr -screen WIDTHxHEIGHT :1
[01:04] <stdin> also see $ Xephyr --help
[01:06] <Max-P> Thanks stdin, it works
[01:10] <randorfer> has anyone install the kde4 release canidate?
[01:11] <jalbert> I'm having some trouble mounting my NTFS partition from Feisty
[01:11] <randorfer> jalbert:  is ntfs-3g installed?
[01:11] <jalbert> one sec
[01:11] <jalbert> lemme make sure
[01:11] <biovore> mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /media/<dir>
[01:13] <randorfer> so no one has tried to install the kde4 release canidate yet??
[01:14] <geos> Hi
[01:14] <stdin> several have
[01:14] <gribelu> i tried.. but failed
[01:14] <biovore> It has a lot of bugs still..
[01:14] <gribelu> some dependancy problems
[01:14] <geos> I tried installing kde4 rc1 --- no success
[01:14] <geos> same here
[01:14] <randorfer> ahh, alight then ill stay away ;-)
[01:14] <biovore> I build it from SVN here...
[01:14] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | gribelu
[01:14] <ubotu> gribelu: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[01:15]  * stdin is glad he added that now
[01:15] <gribelu> i never had any kde4 packages
[01:15] <gribelu> so nothing to remove :)
[01:15] <biovore> yes.. kde4 bot thing..
[01:15] <gribelu>  kdebase-dev-kde4: Depends: kdebase-kde4 (= 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:15] <gribelu> and so on
[01:15] <stdin> gribelu: what was the command you used
[01:15] <gribelu> sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime
[01:16] <gribelu> after adding the repo on the rc1 page
[01:16] <biovore> what ubuntu version..
[01:16] <gribelu> gutsy + hardy repos
[01:16] <biovore> might explain it..
[01:16] <biovore> gusty only.. hardy will break things..
[01:16] <gribelu> hmm
[01:16] <stdin> if you have gutsy then the'll be in universe
[01:16] <stdin> soon
[01:16] <randorfer> what repo is the kde4 stuff located in?
[01:16] <gribelu> would it help if i just change the repos back to the gutsy ones?
[01:16] <stdin> randorfer: see the topic
[01:17] <randorfer> answered even before i answer
[01:17] <biovore> www.kubuntu.org has some links for kde4
[01:17] <stdin> gribelu: no, if you have hardy you need hardy packages
[01:17] <biovore> else just build it from source..
[01:17] <gribelu> damn
[01:18] <stdin> hardy packages are being made, the ones in the gutsy PPA repo are backports of them
[01:18] <gribelu> i knew it was dumb to use hardy at this point... still did it
[01:18] <stdin> and there will eventually go in gutsy-backports
[01:19] <gribelu> ah
[01:19] <gribelu> so i'll just wait
[01:19] <gribelu> beats compiling
[01:19] <stdin> make sure to remove any kde4 package that may have installed (if any)
[01:19] <gribelu> i'll probably hit dependency stuff there as well
[01:19] <MilitantPotato> !iptables
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:21] <gribelu> stdin: as in packages that start with kde4*? or also libqt4*?
[01:21] <stdin> gribelu: not libqt4*
[01:21] <gribelu> cool, thanks
[01:21] <stdin> "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime" should catch them all
[01:22] <gribelu> nothing to remove here.. so i'll just wait for the hardy packages :D
[01:22] <stdin> yep
[01:23] <gribelu> does kde4 work kinda?
[01:23] <stdin> it works sorta yeag
[01:23] <stdin> still has plenty of bugs
[01:24] <stdin> but it's better than the betas'
[01:24] <stdin> and if kdegraphics-kde4 and kdeedu-kde4 start building I can actually sleep
[01:24] <gribelu> i recently installed ubuntu.. and i remembered why i was using kde for the last few years.. so i thought i'd use this box to test kde4
[01:25] <fer> ?
[01:25] <bfl> can someone tell me how i can get emerald working on kubuntu? I have an emerald themer and compiz installed and working. I just can't emerald themes working.
[01:25] <geos> sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime works here too! Thanks
[01:26] <stdin> it should do, it's of my own design ;)
[01:26] <stdin> bfl: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-3f62aec4d410bb7d9a17dc47f6b04f73638dc368
[01:28] <bfl> is it obligated to install the other emerald thems?
[01:28] <bfl> stdin: i've found some emerald them on kde-look and just want to use that
[01:29] <stdin> bfl: then you should open them with the emerald theme manager
[01:29] <bfl> yes and it imports perfect
[01:29] <bfl> but how do i activate it?
[01:29] <stdin> click on it
[01:29] <bfl> nothing changes then
[01:29] <stdin> that's how it's supposed to work
[01:30] <stdin> you just click it and it should activeate
[01:30] <stdin> *activate
[01:30] <bfl> is there something icould have forget?
[01:30] <stdin> try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:30] <stdin> see if they know
[01:30] <bfl> k, thanks for the help
[01:31] <MilitantPotato> Where are the IP tables stored?
[01:31] <bmk789__> can someone recommend a good podcast downloading program for KDE?
[01:31] <stdin> in memory afaik
[01:32] <stdin> bmk789__: amarok ?
[01:32] <bmk789__> stdin: do i need a plugin?
[01:32] <stdin> no
[01:32] <stdin> built-in
[01:32] <MilitantPotato> Firestarter keeps blocking samba while open, it doesn't give any errors though.
[01:33] <Zombocom> if I want to reconfigure my xserver
[01:33] <PeterPan^> http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/916/snapshot1du0.jpg              how to stop
[01:33] <sFEARs> i have a link to my windows partition that shows up on my desktop when i boot.. how do i disable that?
[01:33] <Zombocom> because I know the drivers/video card can handle higher resolutions
[01:34] <biovore> !aptfix
[01:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:34] <stdin> biovore: wrong error
[01:34] <stdin> that happens when adept isn't opened with kdesu
[01:34] <biovore> that too
[01:35] <PeterPan^> ?
[01:37] <gribelu> stdin: any clue when the kde4 hardy packages will be up? thanks
[01:37] <PeterPan^>  can any one hear me
[01:37] <Zombocom> yes
[01:37] <Zombocom> they're debating your problem
[01:37] <PeterPan^> k
[01:37] <Zombocom> apparently the program isn't being run in administrative mode
[01:38] <Zombocom> so you can't do anything with i
[01:38] <Zombocom> t
[01:38] <stdin> gribelu: not sure, depends on what other packages are building and how long they take
[01:38] <PeterPan^> it is
[01:38] <Zombocom> check the kicker's shortcut
[01:38] <PeterPan^> what?
[01:39] <stdin> PeterPan^: try Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu adept_manager      if that works then it wasn't being run as roto
[01:39] <stdin> *root
[01:39] <gribelu> i guess i may have to sleep
[01:39] <Zombocom> I gotta eat dinner, I'll be back later with my problems everyone
[01:40] <sFEARs> i have a link to my windows partition that shows up on my desktop when i boot.. how do i disable that?
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj:  SHE'S ALIVE!
[01:40] <PeterPan^> what will Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu adept_manager        do
[01:40] <stdin> gribelu: should be by tomorrow hopefully, we spent 2 days uploading the packages yesterday and today
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj: I figured it out.
[01:40] <draik> stdin: You too.
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj: stdin: He's how you get a Dell to work... CLEAR CMOS
[01:41] <stdin> PeterPan^: run adept manager as root
[01:41] <PeterPan^> k
[01:41] <PeterPan^> ill try
[01:41] <gribelu> stdin: good luck with that then
[01:41] <PeterPan^> whats alt f2 for ?
[01:42] <stdin> PeterPan^: the run command dialog
[01:42] <PeterPan^> k
[01:42] <stdin> gribelu: after I've uploaded the last package today, I'll get to seep too :p
[01:42] <crazy_bus>  I'm trying to backup a dvd with k9copy.  But while it is set to 4400mb,  k3b tells me the created file is 4.5gb's and excedes the capacity of a dvd by 101.9mb's.  Why is this
[01:43] <stdin> because it only tried to make a file that big, it's not guaranteed to be exactly that
[01:44] <geos> does anyone know how to move widgets?
[01:45] <crazy_bus> stdin: so should I set the file size smaller?
[01:45] <stdin> yeah, give it a go
[01:45] <stdin> geos: you mean plasmoids, and they should move by click and dragging. if not then it's probably a bug, still plenty of those about
[01:46] <geos> ok, though the behavour might be changed from beta3 to rc1
[01:47] <stdin> it has in svn, but building in a closed system isn't the same so different bugs arrise
[01:47] <loguser1> no use with kdesu
[01:47] <stdin> loguser1: try opening konsole and running "sudo apt-get update", then try adept again
[01:48] <stdin> loguser1: if there are any errors then post them to pastebin
[01:48] <stdin> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:49] <loguser1>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:49] <stdin> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:51] <stdin> loguser1: use the pastebin rather than flooding me with /msgs
[01:52] <loguser1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45320/
[01:53] <stdin> loguser1: ok now do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:53] <stdin> or "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" if that wan's to remove packages
[01:55] <loguser1> st http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45321/
[01:55] <loguser1> whats -f install for?
[01:56] <stdin> loguser1: trys to fix
[01:57] <loguser1> k
[01:57] <stdin> loguser1: adept should work now
[01:57] <loguser1> now its fine
[01:57] <loguser1> thx!
[01:57] <stdin> :)
[01:58] <loguser1> stdin:  can you tell a good p2p app
[01:59] <stdin> !p2p
[01:59] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[01:59] <stdin> several there
[02:00] <loguser1> any best
[02:00] <loguser1> ?
[02:00] <stdin> I don't know, never use any
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[02:00] <stdin> try them, see what you like
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> !samba
[02:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:01] <BluesKaj> the donkeys are clunky on linux
[02:01] <loguser1> and i dont knw why.        limewire and kazaa (in windows) and not searching any thing for me. and lime wire doesnet even connects....................
[02:01] <stdin> just keep discussion of P2P legal and you ask for support
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ktorrent has legal sites
[02:03] <stdin> BluesKaj: all P2P apps are legal, it's how you use them that may or may not be ;)
[02:03] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:03] <loguser1> what could be the reason
[02:04] <Greenery> try emule
[02:04] <Greenery> or amule
[02:05] <loguser1> why its not connecting
[02:05] <loguser1> or some not searching if connected
[02:05] <Greenery> maybe ur behind firewall
[02:06] <stdin> !limewire
[02:06] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:07] <loguser1> Greenery:  ya. i have cable internet.. do you think they have stop it?
[02:08] <loguser1> i have not firewall on my pc
[02:08] <Greenery> not even router?
[02:09] <loguser1> i dont know these things. i  have cable net . by lan card
[02:10] <loguser1> so can they restrict it?         and how can i use it?
[02:11] <Greenery> it could be caused by ur ISP, they might block it. So u might as well ask ur ISP abt it
[02:11] <loguser1> ok
[02:11] <loguser1> how can an isp block such a things. they block the ports that it uses?
[02:12] <Greenery> yeah most likely
[02:12] <loguser1> if i chant the ports. that will do..?
[02:12] <Greenery> chant?
[02:13] <loguser1> if i chant the ports used in limewire*. that will do..?
[02:13] <loguser1> chant.?
[02:13] <loguser1> what?
[02:14] <Greenery> i really dont understand u, sorry
[02:14] <sledge> loguser1: You mean 'shut?'
[02:14] <loguser1> sledge:  what?
[02:14] <loguser1> Greenery:  whats chant?
[02:15] <loguser1> Greenery:  if i change the ports number that limewire uses. then it will work?
[02:15] <Greenery> oh change
[02:15] <Zombocom_away> hey everyone
[02:15] <Zombocom_away> if I want to reconfigure my xserver to run in a higher res
[02:16] <Zombocom_away> because I know that the card can take it
[02:16] <Greenery> well it can if ur not behind any firewall
[02:16] <Zombocom_away> how do I do that
[02:17] <loguser1> k
[02:17] <stdin> !resolution | Zombocom
[02:17] <ubotu> Zombocom: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Zombocom, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode...set your res on the slider
[02:17] <stdin> Zombocom: and dont' change nick on away
[02:18] <loguser1> how to upgrade kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 ?       and maintaiiining the same apps and settings. ?
[02:18] <stdin> loguser1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[02:21] <loguser1> thx
[02:22] <jeff____> .
[02:22] <jagcorvair> Ok. DVD plays, but it's "scrambled"
[02:23] <jagcorvair> DVD plays in Kaffeine
[02:24] <jeff____> silly question... why can't I find "advanced desktop effects settings" in my install?
[02:25] <jalbert> hmmm I installed the ntfs-3g packages but it still won't see any NTFS filesystems
[02:25] <jalbert> I have an NTFS partition on my hdd, an NTFS DVD-ROM and an external NTFS hdd
[02:26] <loguser1>  last thing. if i pluge that hardrive to an other pc. with different hardware. like from p3 to p4. will kubuntu work
[02:27] <jalbert> it's teling me I need root access to unmount my CDROM drive
[02:28] <stdin> jeff____: because kubuntu doesn't come pre-installed with compiz
[02:29] <stdin> loguser1: should work fine
[02:29] <loguser1> windows do not work with sligh hardware change.............
[02:29] <stdin> loguser1: you may have to reconfigure the graphics and network, but that's about it
[02:30] <loguser1> k
[02:30] <stdin> loguser1: I know, but linux is not windows :)
[02:30] <loguser1> :) ya
[02:30] <loguser1> so i can use any hardware..........
[02:30] <jeff____> stdin: I thought 7.10 did?  Adept shows compiz installed
[02:30] <stdin> yeah
[02:30] <stdin> jeff____: Ubuntu does, not Kubuntu
[02:30] <stdin> !compiz | jeff____
[02:30] <ubotu> jeff____: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:32] <jeff____> stdin: thanks. I'm off to read!
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> jeff__- also make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installe
[02:33] <stdin> Dragnslcr: the guide says to install it
[02:34] <Greenery> what's the equivalent of compiz in KDE 4?
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !kaffeine
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !info kaffeine
[02:34] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2180 kB, installed size 6128 kB
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !dvd
[02:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:35] <stdin> Greenery: kwin composite
[02:35] <Greenery> still underdevelop?
[02:36] <stdin> yeah, kde4 is at the Release Candidate 1 now
[02:36] <stdin> still got a while to go
[02:37] <Greenery> i'm waiting when KDE4 is very stable enough
[02:37] <gribelu> january then :)
[02:38] <stdin> that's not "very stable", that's "barely out the door"
[02:38] <gribelu> will rock though
[02:38] <gribelu> nothing is 'very stable' anyway
[02:38] <stdin> KDE always rocKs
[02:38] <gribelu> i'll take 'stable'
[02:39] <Greenery> lol
[02:39] <gribelu> stdin: after using ubuntu (gnome) for 2 weeks after a few years of kde.. i looooooooooooooove kde
[02:40] <gribelu> everything crashes and i can configure nothing
[02:40] <stdin> I've been a "kde guy" for >10years
[02:40] <gribelu> keep it up
[02:40] <stdin> never did like gnome
[02:40] <gribelu> i think it's the future
[02:40] <gribelu> in linux anyway
[02:41] <stdin> kde4 will make gome look like a child's toy
[02:41] <gribelu> used to be somewhat ugly
[02:41] <stdin> which gnome actually is
[02:41] <gribelu> kde4 will fix it
[02:42] <gribelu> gnome is like a dev's toy
[02:42] <stdin> how can kde be ugly when it's look is entirely configurable? if you don't like it, change it :)
[02:42] <gribelu> something to use... but not to live with
[02:42] <Greenery> sweet they got videos of Kwin Composite on youtube
[02:42] <gribelu> stdin: out of the box though..
[02:43] <stdin> out of the box it has the "windows" interface, just because it's the simplest interface and the one new uses expect
[02:43] <stdin> low learning-curve to start with
[02:43] <Greenery> yeah easy for windows user to get use to
[02:43] <stdin> then you click Settings and your mind blows :p
[02:44] <gribelu> i hope kde4 will still be somewhat compatible with compiz-fusion because i don't think their own 3dee stuff will live too long
[02:44] <stdin> I remember spending weeks configuring every conceivable options in kde2
[02:44] <stdin> was a fun few weeks too
[02:45] <gribelu> stdin: the widgets still look like they are bolted on the apps though... till i install something better that is.
[02:45] <gribelu> not trying to trash it just saying
[02:45] <stdin> gribelu: that's because they really are bolted to the apps :p
[02:45] <stdin> (in 3x)
[02:46] <gribelu> in gnome i configured everything i could but it still sucks and nothing looks like i wanted it to... in kde i managed to do it and it was stable too
[02:47] <gribelu> the good thing is that linux is becoming usable and that's what matters ;)
[02:47] <stdin> Qt4 is a great tool too, it makes generating a fully interactive and nice looking GUI app really easy
[02:47] <stdin> I made my 1st working Qt4 app after 3 days of reading
[02:48] <stdin> and that's with me being a C++ noob too
[02:48] <gribelu> and i'll be able to share Basket notes with people that use windows and macs
[02:48] <gribelu> :D
[02:49] <gribelu> how will the windows compatibility work btw? is it like installing the .net framework or something?
[02:50] <stdin> well Qt just works on windows mac and *nix
[02:50] <stdin> same source code for all
[02:51] <stdin> if it works on one, it should (if not using platform specific features) work on all
[02:51] <gribelu> so the windows user just installs the app without any other (big) libs and stuff?
[02:51] <biovore> if you build static yes..
[02:52] <stdin> they install Qt, but that's not a big deal. they already install Qt if they have google earth or skype
[02:52] <biovore> alot of things use QT
[02:52] <gribelu> i always hated installing .net/mono apps simply because i had to install a big framework..
[02:52] <stdin> and they seem fine with using firefox (which uses static GTK+)
[02:52] <stdin> which us HUGE
[02:53] <stdin> they probably already have Qt, if not, they get an .exe to install it, or go to trollteck and  download it
[02:53] <gribelu> but for example BasKet is one app that i'd like to share with some people in my team.. would be cool if it would just work (if the devs make it compatible that is)
[02:54] <stdin> getting kdelibs to compile on windows is the hardest part
[02:54] <stdin> and the most important
[02:54] <gribelu> duh :D\
[02:54] <stdin> it's been *nix only for so long it needed a complete rewrire
[02:55] <stdin> as with the rest of the kde core componants
[02:55] <stdin> if you can get kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase to compile and install in windows, then you can get pretty much any kde app on it
[02:56] <gribelu> well.. if you say it's so easy to use QT as a framework it should become a standard in no time
[02:56] <stdin> Qt, not QT :p
[02:56] <gribelu> my bad
[02:56] <gribelu> :))
[02:56] <stdin> and it must be easy if I did it :p
[02:57] <gribelu> i wouldn't know... when is build UI's it's in html and css
[02:57] <stdin> learnt some basic C++ (ie: finished my beginners book) last month and spent a few days reading the Qt guides and tutorials
[02:58] <stdin> I didn't use any html/css, just pure C++
[02:58] <stdin> that's what was so cool
[02:58] <stdin> I don't even have to be a good designer :p
[02:58] <gribelu> i'm a web developer.. but i always wanted to try some C stuff
[02:59] <gribelu> tried it too but only as a toy
[02:59] <Zombocom> hey
[02:59] <Zombocom> what's the command for configuring xorg.conf
[02:59] <Zombocom> the program that does it based upon Q&A
[02:59] <stdin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <Zombocom> thank you
[02:59] <gribelu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <gribelu> yeah
[02:59] <stdin> heh
[03:00] <gribelu> hey you're not sleeping.. so i guess no hardy packages yet? :))
[03:01] <stdin> ok, kdeartwork-kde4 failed to build (should be a small fix), kdepim-kde build depends on a non existent package, now that's going to be a pain
[03:01] <crazy_bus> I set k9copy to 4300mb and it's still making files too big for a dvd5
[03:01] <stdin> this is is my ppa, I don't have any control over the ubuntu main buildds
[03:02] <gribelu> hmm
[03:02] <gribelu> any chance to install your packages on hardy?
[03:03] <stdin> well, it took 2 days to get to this point for gutst
[03:03] <stdin> gutsy*
[03:03] <gribelu> i'm in a hurry because if i don't, i'll just erase this ubuntu and install a clean kubuntu... and i probably won't risk it's health with kde4
[03:03] <stdin> and the source packages are in the hardy repos, just need to be built
[03:04] <stdin> you can't damage the kubuntu install by installing kde4 packages
[03:04] <gribelu> i can't take any more gnome :|
[03:05] <stdin> why are you using hardy anyway?
[03:05] <gribelu> so your ppa is no good for me?
[03:06] <stdin> no, my packages are build against the gutsy version of libraries. even if you installed the package they wouldn't work
[03:06] <gribelu> what if i changed my repos back to the gutsy ones?
[03:07] <stdin> wouldn't work either
[03:07] <gribelu> damn it... i still don't know why i changed the repos to hardy
[03:07] <stdin> you'd have newer package that are available, so no change
[03:08] <stdin> looks like kde4libs debs should be moving in to universe soon
[03:09] <stdin> anyway, I'll come back to the packages tomorrow (or 4 hours, which ever comes first) :P
[03:09] <gribelu> sleep well
[03:10]  * stdin heads to bed, to sleep per chance to dream... about something other then C++ classes for a change
[03:12] <jagcorvair> Why would I get this error message...
[03:12] <jagcorvair> Sound server fatal error:
[03:12] <jagcorvair> cpu overload, aborting
[03:37] <vit_> epa que tal
[03:37] <vit_> rtyw4yw4yw4wyw45y
[03:38] <vit_> hola
[03:39] <vit_> chao
[03:40] <jagcorvair> !dma
[03:40] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:43] <lachlan> can somebody tell me what im supposed to do in the last instruction on this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[03:44] <lachlan> i am not quite understanding what it wants me to do
[03:45] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey has anyone tried installing kde 4 on their machine yet?
[03:46] <jagcorvair> Does anyone know how to enable DMA in Kubuntu?
[03:47] <lachlan> im trying to install it but i dont understand the final instruction on this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php DrUnKnMuNkY
[03:47] <jagcorvair> I get this error:   HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:48] <DaSkreech> lachlan: What don't you get?
[03:48] <lachlan> it talks about moving files and the like but i dont know if they mean the text inside the files or the files themselves
[03:49] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: i believe that it's just the text inside the file
[03:50] <munk__> my knetworkmanager acts weird at random times.....sometimes it says that there is no device detected and sometimes just doesnt connect to a wireless network..
[03:50] <DaSkreech> lachlan: it says copy in which case it doesn't matter :)
[03:50] <munk__> please help
[03:50] <DaSkreech> munk__: Knetworkmanager is weird
[03:50] <DaSkreech> What card?
[03:51] <lachlan> well yes it kinda does. do they want the text from /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop put in  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop coz  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop doesnt exist
[03:51] <DaSkreech> lachlan: So make it
[03:52] <lachlan> ok
[03:52] <munk__> DaSkreech, its broadcom bcm4401-B0 100Base-TX thats what i get when i do lspci
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> Creating a file and copying text into it would be exactly the same as just copying the file
[03:53] <lachlan> except the file names are different dragnslcr
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo cat /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop > /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop should work
[03:53] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: this is so that you don't overwrite the existing kde boot file. it allows you to choose between kde4 and kde
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop works just as well
[03:53] <DaSkreech> lachlan: ^^
[03:53] <DaSkreech> same thing
[03:54] <DaSkreech> one copies the file one copies the contents of the file
[03:55] <DrUnKnMuNkY> so i've managed to install kde 4 but the system tray as well as a good number of the visual items are totally screwed up
[03:56] <DrUnKnMuNkY> would i be better asking in #kde4-devel?
[03:56] <munk__> DaSkreech, what should i do?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> munk__: You could stop using knetworkmanager until hardy
[03:57] <DaSkreech>  the new one is loads better
[03:57] <DaSkreech> DrUnKnMuNkY: #kde will do nicely
[03:57] <lachlan> thanks guys im gonna see if KDE4 works in just a moment
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Unless yo uare offering to fix the problems
[03:57] <munk__> DaSkreech, and what do i do then cuz i dunno how to make it work without that lol...
[03:57] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[03:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <munk__> thanks
[03:57] <DaSkreech> I think that has a doc on raw wireless
[03:58] <DaSkreech> once you get it working once jsut make it into a script
[03:58] <munk__> but sometimes i use wired:-s
[03:58] <munk__> what do i do then?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Wired should work fine
[03:58] <DaSkreech>  just shut off knetworkmanger and wired will pick up
[03:58] <munk__> but it doesnt..
[03:58] <munk__> :-s
[03:59] <DaSkreech> munk__: oh run sudo dhclient
[03:59] <DaSkreech> assuming you have DHCP
[03:59] <munk__> i do and what did that do?
[03:59] <munk__> made my internet work
[03:59] <munk__> thanks:D
[04:01] <DaSkreech> munk__: yeah it prompts the network card to ask for an ip address
[04:01] <jsubl2> I just install kubuntu today.  my ipw3945 and knetworkmanager have been doing great so far :-)
[04:02] <munk__> DaSkreech,thanks a lot man this is the 3rd time u helped me..
[04:02] <lachlan> thanks guys im using KDE4 now
[04:02] <DaSkreech> munk__: Ah I remember two
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I'm getting old :)
[04:02] <DaSkreech> lachlan: enojy :)
[04:02] <lachlan> thx
[04:02] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: how does your system tray look? and you taskbar in general
[04:02] <DaSkreech> lachlan: give us a review in 30 minutes
[04:02] <munk__> jsubl2, thats great man they worked fine for me the first 3 times i installed it...but i keep playing around and messing up stuff and now it started acting funny
[04:02] <lachlan> i shall post on my blog for sure
[04:03] <lachlan> its nice and blue
[04:03] <jsubl2> munk__: hang in there you will get the hang of it.
[04:03] <munk__> DaSkreech,  you helped me before a while back...
[04:03] <DaSkreech> lachlan: Ha ha :)
[04:03] <DaSkreech> lachlan: have you seen the default wallpaper?
[04:03] <lachlan> the new kmenu is fantastic imo much more modern
[04:03]  * DaSkreech thumbs up munk__
[04:03] <lachlan> im using the defult flower wallpaper
[04:03] <munk__> jsubl2,  hehe i know...funny thing is i have 4 computer 3 linux boxes and a winblows(my brothers) and i have gentoo on my main one and i find gentoo a bit easier sometimes..less confusing so to say
[04:04] <DaSkreech> lachlan: great! I like the command line thingy
[04:04] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[04:04] <DaSkreech> hey CPrgmSwR2
[04:04] <munk__> DaSkreech, do you know about the system tray compiz problem with kubuntu? maybe how to fix it too?:P
[04:04] <jesse> Help please: My graphics card is only working for certain parts of the computer.  When moving a window, it's as if it is software rendered (in kwin).  But if I switch to compiz, I can do a cube rotatation just fine.  Moving a window in either is slow.  Thank you.
[04:04] <jsubl2> munk__: yeah i just quit gentoo a couple of months ago
[04:04] <munk__> jsubl2, how so?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> >_<
[04:04] <DaSkreech> I avoid compiz
[04:04] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: going to research the new ati drivers that was released today
[04:04] <DaSkreech>  #compiz-fusion guys don't though :)
[04:04] <jesse> DaSkreech: But even kwin is screwed up.
[04:04] <jsubl2> munk__: just tired of it.  wanted a change
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> jesse: not kwin3
[04:05] <munk__> DaSkreech,  hehe ok...thanks..
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[04:05] <munk__> jsubl2, i see
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> I mean kwin4 is pretty nice
[04:05] <jesse> Haha
[04:05] <DaSkreech> jesse: You unloaded kwin and loaded compiz ?
[04:05] <jesse> DaSkreech: compiz --replace
[04:05] <jesse> kwin --replace
[04:05] <jesse> etc
[04:06] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:06] <DrUnKnMuNkY> jesse: i've found kwin to be pretty buggy on my machine at least. i was using emerald instead
[04:06] <jesse> DrUnKnMuNkY: That's screwed up too.
[04:06] <jesse> But at least I can make my computer look like Vista.
[04:06] <lachlan> i think this laptop shouldnt be running 4. its not fast enough lol
[04:06] <jesse> At least then it looks like it's supposed to screw up
[04:07] <DaSkreech> DrUnKnMuNkY: kwin was buggy?
[04:08] <jesse> I guess I'll go to compiz, thanks for your guys' help
[04:08] <DrUnKnMuNkY> DaSkreech: for me it gave me lots of issues. windows wouldn't display properly.. usually it was just that their titlebars weren't displaying properly. i think it was a problem with compiz though. emerald+compiz has worked fine
[04:09] <jesse> DrUnKnMuNkY: DaSkreech: I am using e+c
[04:09] <DaSkreech> I'm really out of the compiz loop
[04:09] <jagcorvair> !purekde
[04:09] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[04:10] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: you can /msg ubotu too
[04:10] <lachlan> DaSkreech how does the quick access command line work?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> lachlan: open the menu if you know waht you want to run (marble for instance) just type it and it will open
[04:11] <killermach_> I have libdvdcss installed, but when I put my dvd movie in to watch it, I get a message about it being encrypted
[04:11] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Sorry. Thank you.
[04:11] <killermach_> anyone know how to solve this, I've watched this movie on previous installs of kubuntu
[04:11] <lachlan> nice
[04:11] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Would you know about DMA in Kubuntu? I keep getting an error message.
[04:11] <killermach_> currently kubuntu 7.04 Fiesty
[04:12] <jagcorvair> I followed the instructions per !dma, but it didn't work for me
[04:12] <DrUnKnMuNkY> !dvd
[04:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:12] <jagcorvair> Kaffeine is choppy
[04:12] <jagcorvair> I followed those, too, DrUnKnMuNkY
[04:12] <killermach_> thanks. check link now
[04:12] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: depends on what errors
[04:12] <DrUnKnMuNkY> killermach_: have you tried vlc?
[04:12] <jagcorvair> Tm_T:  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:13] <Tm_T> interesting
[04:13] <jagcorvair> It's choppy as all heck
[04:13] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: maybe for you
[04:13] <DrUnKnMuNkY> jagcorvair: sorry those dvd instructions were for killermach_
[04:13] <CPrgmSwR2> I didn't want to believe it :( ATI sucks at releases drivers
[04:14] <jagcorvair> DrUnKnMuNkY: NP
[04:14] <CPrgmSwR2> ATI released a driver with a watermark left in it
[04:14] <jesse> CPrgmSwR2: Ew
[04:15] <DaSkreech> AMD still needs to step up some way
[04:15] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: I bet they are. Initially, it was that Kaffeine would not let me play DVDs because of "insufficient rights" and "missing plug-ins". Ran into a guy at the bar yesterday and he told me to clear the CMOS on the Dell machine. Sure enough, it works. Now, it's choppy. I read that you need DMA to avoid choppy DVD playback.
[04:15] <DaSkreech> but open specs make all good
[04:15] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: yup, issue in your system
[04:16] <jesse> Can someone help me with resetting my configuration files regarding X and my videocard?
[04:16] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Any clue?
[04:16] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Heard of this in the past?
[04:17] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: I'd say, find what is usable ioctl to your device(s) and set DMA on
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !resolution | jjesse
[04:17] <ubotu> jjesse: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: doublecheck your bios settings etc etc
[04:17] <jesse> DaSkreech: ty
[04:18] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: What is ioctl?
[04:19] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioctl
[04:25] <apparle> series problem here SOS SOS SOS
[04:25] <Tm_T> !helpme | apparle
[04:25] <ubotu> apparle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <apparle> the installer of gutsy crashes at 94% (installing grub) unable to boot
[04:28] <apparle> tell me what to do I get GRUB error 15 on booting
[04:28] <Tm_T> apparle: you have some virus protection set on for boot sectors in BIOS ?
[04:29] <apparle> Tm_T: what do you mean
[04:30] <Tm_T> apparle: in BIOS there should be option to "writeprotect boot sectors" or similar
[04:31] <Tm_T> some systems call it virus protection
[04:31] <Tm_T> if it's on, it could mess your GRUB install
[04:31] <Tm_T> so you might like to turn it off while installing system
[04:31] <apparle> Tm_T: do you ean BIOS protect in BIOS setup
[04:32] <Tm_T> apparle: mmm, shouldn't be that, but, erm, who knows how it is called there
[04:32] <Tm_T> so try that too
[04:32] <Malkavoru> i noticed i had a hard time installing grub with my schools old desktops, they had some old gateways or somthing i believe. Probably unrelated so ill keep quiet
[04:33] <Tm_T> gateway?
[04:33] <zaraki> evening.. whats up
[04:33] <apparle> is there any method by which I only have to install grub and not the whole setup aain
[04:34] <zaraki> you can boot up a live distro and do a repair on the mbr
[04:34] <Malkavoru> yes, the school had the old cheepo desktops, they were the old gateway brand machines. Wont install ubuntu or any other grub OS.
[04:35] <apparle> I have repaired the MBR in such a way that only windows bootloader starts
[04:35] <apparle> I can boot from windows right now
[04:35] <zaraki> you did a fixboot in windows recovery?
[04:37] <apparle> zaraki: Yes I have done that from Win XP but what to do about linux. now only WIn starts
[04:38] <zaraki> you need to reinsert grub into the mbr this should get you in the right direction
[04:38] <zaraki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:38] <Dr_willis> there is the  !fixgrub wiki page that  details how to restore the grub boot loader
[04:38] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:38] <Dr_willis> read it carefully. :) you need to use ONE method to reinstall grub.  someone in here the other day missunderstood and tried to do them all.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Oh lord
[04:39] <zaraki> Dr_willis: do you have a link to configure and start/stop artsd for kde?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> spdos
[04:39] <Dr_willis>  if its a service  it would be 'sudo /etc/init.d/artsd stop'
[04:40] <Dr_willis> It dont seem to be a service. :0
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !arts
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !artsd
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <noobie> !artsd
[04:40] <noobie> ??
[04:40] <noobie> ohh well
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  the alsa page may have some info on it
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[04:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:41] <zaraki> danke.. i'll read over these and try to fix my stuff
[04:41] <noobie> can someone give me link or somewhere that tell me how to install beryl on Gutsy ?
[04:41] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[04:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:42] <noobie> thanks mann
[04:42] <noobie> i just got my CDs from Shipi
[04:42] <noobie> shiptit
[04:42] <noobie> and i just finish installing it
[04:43] <noobie> thanks a lot for the link though
[04:43] <echo> how to find a song?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> echo: Sorry?
[04:44] <noobie> !compiz
[04:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:44] <echo> thk
[04:45] <echo> !compiz
[04:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:46] <apparle> does the installer doanything after installing grub
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Grub is one of the last things it does.. Not sure if its the last or not..
[04:47] <apparle> Dr_willis: my setup crashes at 94%(installing grub) . Will it do if I repair the MBR
[04:48] <Dr_willis> apparle,  no idea - You using the live cd ? or alternative install cd?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> try it and see is about all i can say.
[04:49] <apparle> live CD
[04:50] <apparle> Anybody here wo actually knows what all the installer in live CD works
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I always install with the Alternative Install cd. Sorry. only used the live cd installer a few times
[04:56] <apparle> Dr_willis: I don't have any choice as shipit ships the live CD
[04:56] <DaSkreech> apparle: Wait what?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> they don't ship both any more?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Or maybe they only did that for LTS
[04:58] <apparle> DaSkreech: do you know if live cd installer does anything else after grub install
[04:59] <DaSkreech> I can find out
[05:01] <DaSkreech> apparle: It is the last step the only thing run after that is a script to ask you if you would like to reboot
[05:10] <DaSkreech> So reinstall grub and reboot You should be good
[05:15] <Airforce55555> has anybody here seen pans labyrinth?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Airforce55555,  i saw how they advertised the *@(@#*#@ out of it. :) and figured if they had to market it that hard... it must be about as good as that Godzilla movie was. (not)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <mordaunt> is there some way to disable unresponsible application greying?
[05:17] <Airforce55555> from what i can get from youtube. its freakin amazing movie
[05:17] <mordaunt> if you use compiz that is
[05:17] <Airforce55555> im interested becausse i just say L.D. Bell high school marching band do a show on it
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Airforce55555,  try stage6.com
[05:17] <Airforce55555> full movie/
[05:17] <Airforce55555> ?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> wont know untill ya look. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> they got a trailer i see on the fast search i just did
[05:18] <Airforce55555> i cant find the movie there :P
[05:19] <Dr_willis> way it normally works for me.. they will have the full movie.. in spanish..
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:19] <apparle> DaSkreech: thank GOD. just tell me which method should I use to repair the GRUB by Super GRUB disk or by live CD method
[05:19] <Airforce55555> nvm wrong search XD
[05:19] <DaSkreech> apparle: Live CD works fine
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Airforce55555: It's a ok Movie. Nice Story.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> just no one has done anything like it in a long time
[05:21] <Airforce55555> I want to see it. that marching show was good and it sounds like a good movie
[05:25]  * Dr_willis marches to the beat of a drummer with no rythm.
[05:26] <apparle> DaSkreech: I am unable to understand how to repair GRUB using live CD. Could you please explain in more detail
[05:26] <flaccid> !grubfix
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[05:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:26] <DaSkreech> apparle: ^^^
[05:27] <apparle> I have read it and not able to understand it
[05:28] <DaSkreech> apparle: you have windows?
[05:28] <apparle> yes
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Vista?
[05:28] <apparle> XP
[05:29] <apparle> DaSkreech: Windows XP
[05:30] <DaSkreech> OK
[05:30] <apparle> what next
[05:30] <DaSkreech> apparle: the quick start section should work for you
[05:31] <apparle> tell me step by step I am unable to understand it. I am a new user to linux
[05:32] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: I have played with all the options in the BIOS. Nothing that dealt with DMA. What am I doing wrong?
[05:32] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: noo idea to be honest
[05:33] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Ok. Thanks.
[05:33] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: You trying to add dma to your dvd drive?
[05:33] <apparle> jagcorvair:what is your problem??
[05:33] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Yes
[05:33] <DaSkreech> apparle: booted into the live cd?
[05:33] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: I just did that, I can help
[05:34] <jagcorvair> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:34] <apparle> DaSkreech: next
[05:34] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Please do tell.
[05:34] <jagcorvair> That was my error message, btw.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> apparle: open konsole
[05:34] <apparle> next
[05:34] <apparle> sudo grub done
[05:34] <apparle> next
[05:34] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Open a terminal and I will show you what I did
[05:34] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I'm ready when you are.
[05:35] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: First, we'll make a copy of your hdparm file just in case: sudo cp /etc/hdparm.conf /etc/hdparm.conf.backup
[05:35] <DaSkreech> apparle: type root and press tab
[05:35] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: done
[05:36] <apparle> I acanot do it now as I am not sitting on the computer. I will try when I am home. You tell me the steps
[05:36] <DaSkreech> apparle: you have your partition with grub on it?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ah
[05:36] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: kdesudo kate /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:36] <apparle> DaSkreech: i don't know
[05:37] <DaSkreech> well root and your grub partition
[05:37] <DaSkreech> if you don't know type find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:37] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Got it.
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Which will give you the right entry
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:37] <DaSkreech> then root (partition)
[05:37] <DaSkreech> setup (hard drive)
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:38] <DaSkreech> quit
[05:38] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Look at this and add it to the bottom of your hdparm.conf file in kate: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/
[05:38] <DaSkreech> then reboot the machine
[05:38] <apparle> DaSkreech: I love you thanks
[05:38] <apparle> bye
[05:38] <apparle> bye everyone
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Bye
[05:39] <clown> hello every one
[05:39] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Ummm... it's blank
[05:39] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Oops, sorry: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m6df8e1ae
[05:40] <clown> i have a problem about my kmix
[05:40] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Did that.
[05:40] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Save the file and you're done
[05:40] <clown> what file?
[05:41] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m2c91b3f1
[05:41] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I already had the file saved as such.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> clown: What file for what?
[05:41] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Then you should have dma enabled for that drive
[05:42] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Right. Keyword = should
[05:42] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: I do this after every initial install and usually reboot at this point. I'm not sure if you actually need to reboot.
[05:42] <clown> no what i mean is
[05:42] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I did a reboot and did a reboot into BIOS. Nothing
[05:43] <jagcorvair> Kaffeine plays my DVDs really choppy
[05:43] <clown> im using kubuntu in my dell 1520
[05:43] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: :(
[05:43] <jagcorvair> MPlayer is good, but everything else bails
[05:43] <clown> but the sound is not work
[05:43] <DaSkreech> !sound
[05:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:44] <earl> so my ksysguard processlist lists "apache2" several times. as far as i know, i don't run a webserver. any idea why this is?
[05:44] <earl> when i kill them, they come right back too.
[05:45] <earl> it also lists "getty" like 6 times.
[05:46] <ardchoille> earl: open a terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 status
[05:46] <ardchoille> earl: The getty lines are normal
[05:47] <earl> * Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean}
[05:48] <ardchoille> earl: And you haven't installed apache web server or don't want it running?
[05:48] <earl> dont wnat it
[05:48] <earl> and certainly don't awnt 6 instances of it
[05:48] <ardchoille> earl: open a terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[05:49] <ardchoille> earl: At this point I'd take the system offline and try to determine how a web server got installed. Sounds to me like a security breach has taken place.
[05:49] <earl> okay. sounds like it's gone.
[05:49] <earl> no i don't think it's anything that serious.
[05:49] <ardchoille> earl: Did you perhaps install lamp?
[05:50] <earl> i don't think so;
[05:50] <earl> i've been fooling around with a lot of different programs. kiba-dock, compiz, stuff like that.
[05:50] <ardchoille> earl: Well, if you didn't install a web server, then someone else did and it's running.. serving something
[05:50] <earl> its possible something installed apache as a dependency
[05:51] <munk__> where are the acpi settings in kde? i cant find them again and i need to change something...i forgot where they were
[05:51] <earl> next question: how do you disable kicker?
[05:52] <ardchoille> earl: You don't want the kde panel at all?
[05:52] <earl> now that i have kiba-dock, having the panel is redundant
[05:52] <ardchoille> True
[05:53] <munk__> where are the acpi settings in kde? i cant find them again and i need to change something...i forgot where they were
[05:54] <ardchoille> earl: I'm not sure how to keep it from restarting when you log into kde, but to stop it for now: dcop kicker kicker quit
[05:54] <earl> well i just generally kill it from ksysguard
[05:54] <snowdonkey> munk__: I'm not really sure myself but try "locate acpi"
[05:55] <munk__> snowdonkey, lol finds many things but i rmbr somewhere i activted something with hibernate sleep and all those and i cant rmbr where..:(
[05:56] <ardchoille> earl: Or you could just set it to hide
[05:56] <earl> i'd like to have it both out of sight and out of memory, but also there's no way to permanently hide it i dont think
[05:56] <snowdonkey> munk__: hibernate.sh?
[05:57] <munk__> no it was some gui somewhere i didnt edit the file myself..
[05:59] <clown> hello
[05:59] <earl> next question: have you been having trouble with getting your lappy to sleep?
[05:59] <earl> mine refuses to go to sleep correctly
[06:00] <clown> this the first time using the linux
[06:00] <jagcorvair> How can I add VLC as the player option when I put a DVD in the drive?
[06:00] <clown> so i dont now
[06:00] <clown> what im going to do
[06:00] <clown> i install kubuntu 7.10
[06:01] <snowdonkey> munk__: For simple start/stop go to KControl->System Services->Administration Mode->acpid
[06:01] <clown> in my laptop
[06:01] <earl> mine goes to a black screen and the processor stays hot. and then it won't wake up, i have to hold the power button to shut it off.
[06:02] <clown> when i install
[06:02] <clown> i dont hear any sounds
[06:03] <clown> kmix is not running
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !sound | clown
[06:03] <ubotu> clown: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:03] <clown>  thank you verymuch
[06:08] <Dr_willis> thers some newer laptop audio chipsets that dont have linux support yet. (well alsa may need to be updated)
[06:08] <surgy> whats the package name of the gtk developement kit?
[06:09] <surgy> the one with the gtk-devel packages
[06:09] <surgy> !gtk
[06:09] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[06:09] <keaton> I accidently closed the volume control in the taskbar, anyone know the command to start it again?
[06:10] <snowdonkey> keaton: kmix
[06:10] <keaton> thanks.
[06:14] <bigtrouble> ok, i need bigggg help here: can't start *any* of my linux distros on the other drive...can't even use the livecd!!! lol
[06:15] <bigtrouble> <----coming to u live from *gulp* my winblows drive
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:16] <bigtrouble> has anyone ever heard of someone *not* being able to get the livecd to load all of a sudden?
[06:18] <bigtrouble> could anyone pls help me with this filesystems disaster?
[06:19] <bigtrouble> grub loads fine, just nothing else...always freezes/hangs at the 'mounting local filesystems' phase
[06:20] <Nyle> what about the live cd?
[06:20] <bigtrouble> it hangs too...will not complete being loaded
[06:20] <Nyle> did you recently mess with hw
[06:21] <TillUnn> Hello guys. Can abybody advise me any software (it will be better if it is free and open) for solving this kind of task: I have a predefined table where information is stored. For example there are 15 columns. There are a lot of people who have to manage that information, but some of them can have access only to 5 columns and others can read all but change nothing. Also I need to setup predefined values for each column os people couldn't paste their data
[06:21] <TillUnn> into that columns. Is there any open and free solution for my problem?
[06:21] <bigtrouble> nope, not at all...this happened tonight after a simple system total-freeze and cold boot
[06:21] <Nyle> TillUnn: sql?
[06:22] <TillUnn>  Nyle: yes. it would be great if it uses MySQL for example
[06:22] <nite613_> Tillunn: Sounds like you're looking for a generic table front-end with column level access control.
[06:22] <bigtrouble> Nyle, sorry...thought u might be talking to me...guess not
[06:22] <Nyle> TillUnn: no idea
[06:22] <Nyle> bigtrouble: i was
[06:23] <NickPresta> TillUnn, sounds like a 30 minute job if you have any knowledge of Python and/or Django :)
[06:23] <TillUnn> nite613_: yes. it is exactly what i mean. so is there any solution?
[06:23] <nite613_> I don't know of anything, that's the type of thing you usualy pay a couple hundred $ to a freelancer to whip up for you in php
[06:23] <bigtrouble> oh, thx :)
[06:23] <Nyle> bigtrouble: unfortunately I just worked 16 hours
[06:23] <TillUnn> NickPresta: yes maybe...
[06:23] <Nyle> Im laying down in bed about to enjoy a well earned smoke
[06:23] <Nyle> i have no energy to help anyone
[06:23] <nite613_> Don't smoke in bed!
[06:23] <Nyle> im just chatting cuz im bored
[06:24] <bigtrouble> Nyle, that's ok...thx anyway
[06:24] <Nyle>  but i can say this
[06:24] <Nyle> you should maybe check your bios settings
[06:24] <TillUnn> But the time is limited. And in addition there MUST be versioning support with rollback to any of previous conditions
[06:24] <Nyle> did you by any chance save any settings regarding ide/raid setup or anything
[06:25] <NickPresta> TillUnn, your task seems pretty specific. Perhaps a custom solution is required. I can't think of any premade models off hand...
[06:25] <nite613_> Yeah, that's really a custom software job. Sounds like it could be pretty cheap, though
[06:26] <nite613_> If this were 2001 I'd offer to write it for you for $400 ;)
[06:26] <Nyle> nite613_: would ou do it for 18.99?
[06:26] <nite613_> Nope!
[06:26] <Nyle> i would
[06:26] <NickPresta> I'll do it for $18.99 and hour and I promise this will take no less than 40 hours ;)
[06:26] <Nyle> what?
[06:26] <Nyle> is that supposed to make sense?
[06:26] <Nyle> ;)
[06:27] <nite613_> TillUnn: Hire Nyle, he says he can do it for $20
[06:27] <Nyle> no
[06:27] <Nyle> not for 20
[06:27] <nite613_> Nyle, I want my $1.01 finders fee
[06:27] <Nyle> for 18.99
[06:27] <Lynoure> hmm
[06:27] <NickPresta> Well gentlemen (and ladies), I'm off to bed for the night.
[06:27] <Nyle> hmm
[06:27] <Nyle> ok bye
[06:28] <Nyle> bigtrouble: before you boot the live cd, hit f4 or f6 i think to modify boot options.  in the kernel parameters line, take out the boosplash option and see at which step the live cd fails to start
[06:29] <Lynoure> TillUnn: you could try Rentacoder.com or somesuch, though the skills of the programmers there vary wildly.
[06:29] <snowdonkey> Nyle: that or Alt + F1 to get to tty
[06:30] <Nyle> snowdonkey: that doesn't show whats going on
[06:30] <Nyle> it just gives you a login prompt
[06:30] <snowdonkey> nyle: Ah, my mistake
[06:32] <Nyle> I am going to go watch XXX
[06:32] <Nyle> i have both of em
[06:33] <Nyle> vin deisel or ice cube?
[06:36] <TillUnn> Nyle: can i pm you?
[06:37] <Nyle> why?
[06:37] <Nyle> unless you wanna have cyber *** don't bother ;)
[06:37] <Nyle> for all support, just ask in the channel
[06:37] <TillUnn> i want to ask you some specific questions about the task i explained above. may be i could hire you? ;)
[06:37] <TillUnn> So can I? :)
[06:37] <Nyle> you may not
[06:38] <Nyle> I am not willing to take any jobs
[06:38] <TillUnn> O.K.
[06:38] <Nyle> thanks for considering me though, :)
[06:38] <Nyle> hope you find someone
[06:41] <Creationist> Is there a way to extract a WinZip archive that is password protected without having the password?
[06:46] <Lynoure> Creationist: most likely. Why do you need such a way?
[06:47] <Creationist> Lynoure: I don't really NEED it.    Yeah, not about doing that lol
[06:49] <Lynoure> Creationist: oh, sounds like the stuff you downloaded would not be safe to install anyway :)
[06:49] <Creationist> Lynoure: They're mobile games for my cell phone.
[06:50] <Creationist> Lynoure: But I should be able to find the same ones from a not-so-shady source. :P
[06:51] <Lynoure> Creationist: If you have never heard about compromised phones, today is a good day to find out. But google probably has something on the matter of opening those.
[06:51] <Creationist> Lynoure: See, my logic is, if they wanted to hijack a cell phone, why make a person jump through hoops to do it?  Perhaps to prove they're incredibly stupid? ;)
[06:53] <surgy> i need a way to translate joystick events into keypress events, and joy2key doesnt seam to do the job i keep getting errors about my joystick input, askingme if im sure my kernal supports it.can anyone help me?
[06:53] <surgy> !joy
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <surgy> !joy2key
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joy2key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <Lynoure> Creationist: because in the same go you can also get your contact info to sell to spammers
[06:55] <bazhang> !info joy2key
[06:55] <ubotu> joy2key: Translate joystick movements into equivalent keystrokes. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-5 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 88 kB
[06:57] <surgy> can you help plz?
[06:57] <surgy> !info joymouse
[06:57] <ubotu> Package joymouse does not exist in gutsy
[06:59] <Creationist> Another question... is it possible to play mobile .jar files in Kubuntu?
[07:01] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[07:17] <DjDarkman> does someone know why doesn`t the php sessions work properly with an ubuntu apahce2+php install?
[07:18] <emilsedgh> DjDarkman: What?!
[07:19] <DjDarkman> for example <? session_start(); print_r($_SESSION); $_SESSION['x']++;?> wouldn`t work for me
[07:19] <DjDarkman> it would return an empty array at second access
[07:19] <emilsedgh> DjDarkman: hm, something is wrong from your side, get a phpinfo() and take a look at session stuff
[07:21] <DjDarkman> session autostart is off but that shouldn`t be the problem
[07:22] <emilsedgh> right, you ran session_start()
[07:31] <notv> is linux written mostly in C?
[07:31] <notv> or is it C++?
[07:31] <bazhang> the kernel?
[07:31] <notv> yea
[07:31] <bazhang> isn't c++ windows?
[07:31] <notv> i dont know
[07:31] <bazhang> I'd guess C
[07:32] <bazhang> wikipedia would have the final say though :}
[07:34] <ardchoille> bazhang: C/C++ isn't OS-specific
[07:35] <notv> where do i go to get my feet wet on writing drivers
[07:35] <bazhang> ardchoille: no need for a trip to wikipedia then :}
[07:35] <notv> theres always trips to wikipedia
[07:36] <bazhang> true
[07:37] <HackAvatar> you gotta give it to the bloke who thought up wikipedia
[07:37] <ardchoille> Indeed
[07:39] <Black_Monkey> !aptfix
[07:39] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:41] <pechan> ayuda
[07:41] <pechan> necesito librerias para mi amule 2.1.3
[07:41] <pechan> ehey
[07:41] <bazhang> !es | pechan
[07:41] <ubotu> pechan: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[07:49] <plontaj> hello !
[07:49] <plontaj> I have a problem
[07:50] <acemo> !brokenkde4
[07:50] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[08:05] <knights> I'm new to ssh. When I've ssh'd into a remote box, is it possible for me to open files on the remote machine using apps installed on my local box? Also, how do I go about accessing my local drive from within ssh to copy files from one to the other?
[08:05] <knights> Is either possible using ssh?
[08:09] <ardchoille> knights: scp - secure copy
[08:22] <anushantha> hi
[08:23] <Bux__> hi alles iO
[08:28] <god_> hello
[08:28] <Tm_T> god_: interesting nick you have
[08:29] <god_> thank you
[08:46] <Savior> hello! does somebody know how to downgrade a package?
[08:49] <Tm_T> Savior: unless you have older package somewhere safe, there's none
[08:50] <Savior> so there is only one version for a package in a repo?
[08:50] <girrig> HELP! My kubuntu feisty asked me last night to upgrade to Gutsy, so I did. But, about 4 package upgrades failed, but the progress bar continued growing. However, it stalled at 54%... I let it ran for over 6 hours but the upgrade stalled, so I rebooted... now I'm using it but there are several errors ocurring... no dhcp client, some commands crashing... what should I do to fix it?
[09:01] <Logi> Does "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/konsole: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeprint.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ring any bells? It's supposed to be in kdelibs5 but isn't
[09:06] <Logi> I just re-installed kdelibs5, kdelibs5-data and kdelibs5-dev but to no avail. And yet packages.ubuntu.com claims that libs/kdelibs5 contains usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5
[09:06] <Logi> something is messed up and I'm hoping it's me...
[09:08] <Logi> but... of course... I'm installing rc from another repository, so what packages.debian.org says has nothing to do with it.
[09:11] <Dresken> My sound doesn't seem to be working now even tho it was working just fine before I restarted
[09:11] <Dresken> Any idea what might have caused this?
[09:13] <mous16> hi to all..  i see here http://kubuntu.org/packages/  that there are many programs available on the server. is possible to ad the server to apt source list? what i've to do?
[09:15] <stephan_> Hi, I just downloaded a GDM theme, how do I install it?  In the login window preferences window, the themes tab has an add button, but I can't get it to 'see' the theme file?
[09:16] <mous16> stephan_: you can't see the file because it's a theme for gnome, and not for kde
[09:16] <stephan_> I know, I already installed GDM, and have used several gdm themes successfully, but only those that an be installed through adept.
[09:18] <mous16> stephan_: o... i'm sorry, but i've no ideas!
[09:20] <stephan_> Don't worry about it, I should be studying anyway
[09:27] <WildeSehnsucht> hello. i have a small problem using nvclock_(qt|gtk). if i set value of "GPU clock" or "Memory clock" the system freezes and only "Reset" button helps. Is there any minimal settings for GeForce FX 5700 (AGP)?
[09:31] <Dresken> How the heck do I save the changes to a file once I've run it in terminal?
[09:31] <Dresken> sudo nano /etc/modules for example
[09:32] <hangthedj> Dresken, i think Control+O
[09:32] <hangthedj> also if you hit Control+X it will ask if you want to save
[09:32] <WildeSehnsucht> In pico (nano) it''s Ctrl + O
[09:32] <Jucato> in nano, Ctrl+O is write Out (save)
[09:32] <Jucato> Ctrl+X is eXit
[09:33] <hangthedj> but if you have unsaved stuff it asks
[09:33] <hangthedj> but ctrl+o is probably the better way to go
[09:33] <Jucato> Ctrl+O, Ctrl+X usually...
[09:33] <Jucato> (or :wq for vim)
[09:33] <Jucato> :D
[09:34] <Dresken> Well I've rechecked the file and the entry I added is not there even after pressing ctrl+o
[09:34] <hangthedj> it should prompt for a file name and then hit enter
[09:34] <Dresken> nvm
[09:35] <Dresken> done, thanks for the help
[09:35] <Dresken> restart :x
[09:35] <hangthedj> personally i like Joe the best out of all the cli editors
[09:35] <hangthedj> but i'm just used to it.
[09:37] <emilsedgh> Jucato: are the rc1 packages out?
[09:37] <ardchoille> emilsedgh: Did you check the channel topic?
[09:37] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yep. see the topic
[09:37] <Dresken> Bleh
[09:38] <Dresken> sound still won't work
[09:38] <Jucato> don't ask me about them though... I almost never use the packages :)
[09:38] <Dresken> I don't get it, it was working just fine before I restarted
[09:40] <emilsedgh> thanks, sorry
[09:40] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so what do you use?
[09:40] <Jucato> svn :)
[09:43] <hangthedj> ok this question is half kde, does anyone know if macports has kate?
[09:44] <hangthedj> i use a mac at work, and i hate the mac alternatives.
[09:44] <Jucato> #kde-darwin
[09:44] <hangthedj> :)
[09:44] <hangthedj> wow they have a channel for everything
[09:49] <sdlnxgk> anyone have a Motorola A1200 Ming that they change themes and ringtones on??? what program are you using if you do???
[10:05] <antoine_> salut tout le modne
[10:07] <_Shade_> hi
[10:07] <bazhang> hi!
[10:07] <_Shade_> is there anyone familiar to kde4?
[10:07] <bytems> hiho
[10:07] <bazhang> a bit..
[10:08] <BB83> Hi all ! I'm trying to figure out why apt-get wants to remove the kde metapackage when i remove superkaramba ? Is it a problem, will it brake the kde desktop ?
[10:09] <_Shade_> i have just built the recent version and i am a bit amazed about the progress here in just two weeks. It's becoming usable!
[10:09] <pag> BB83, kde is just a meta-package.. it contains only depencies. you won't lose anything even if it's removed.
[10:09] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: Yeah, all the pieces are beginning to come together very rapidly!
[10:09] <bazhang> it is looking nice _Shade_
[10:11] <bazhang> nice story about it at osnews.com
[10:11] <BB83> thaks pag !
[10:11] <BB83> *thanks
[10:11] <pag> np :)
[10:11] <_Shade_> one thing i'm wondering is when i right click on the desktop, i haven't got some usual actions like create new file or configure the desktop. Will it be implemented?
[10:12] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: I'd suggest asking in #plasma, but I think everyone is asleep atm :)
[10:12] <bazhang> not sure about the final form--the link above leads to one of the devs blog posts--a bit more meat there
[10:12] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: "Configure" should be there, but I think it missed the RC1 inclusion cut-off.
[10:14] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: well it is some kind of configure but it allows only the slideshow mode, nothing else
[10:14] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: do you know how can i enable the kwin compositing>
[10:15] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: I think configuration via the UI is still very primitive.  The panel, as far as I'm aware, currently has no available config options - you have to actually change the source code itself! :)
[10:15] <apparle> anybody tried the new KDE
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: Right-click on a window border -> Configure Window Behaviour(?) -> Desktop Effects
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: That's purely from memory, so probably wrong :)
[10:16] <bazhang> haha
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> apparle: Yes, we're talking about it now ;)
[10:16] <mzolisi> sup e'rybody
[10:17] <Logi> apparle: I did. didn't work.
[10:17] <mzolisi> what the problem is?
[10:17] <Logi> apparle: missing /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5 so nothing interesting will run, not even konsole
[10:17] <przem__> Hello I've got problem with my kde. When I open Konqueror, all anything else I get error: could not find mime type application/octet-stream, Please can you tell me what can I do to avoid this problem?
[10:18] <mzolisi> have you got a desktop icon linking to konqueror?
[10:18] <Logi> mzolisi: in the version that packages.ubuntu.com knows about, that library is in kdelibs5 which I've got installed from the 4-RC1 package, but I get no such library
[10:19] <Logi> is there anyone here with /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5 installes who could tell me what package it's from?
[10:19] <mzolisi> have the same problem , is messing up my upgrade to Gutsy
[10:19] <przem__> mzolisi: no I don't have
[10:19] <mzolisi> przem: so you click on the system tray to get to conqueror?
[10:20] <Logi> oh, and the usual having to --ignore-overwrite to get kde packages to install. There is a slightly broken script somewhere.
[10:20] <przem__> mzolisi: no I usualy press alt+F2 and enter ~ fo instance
[10:21] <przem__> mzolisi: to get to my home folder
[10:21] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: ok got it... nice but a bit slow
[10:21] <BB83> przem_, try to look in your filetypes settings in kde. You probably have something wrong like a generic entry for all extensions (I had that same problem)
[10:21] <Logi> could someone with a working kde4 tell me what 'dpkg --search /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5' returns?
[10:21] <przem__> mzolisi: but this error shows almost all the time
[10:22] <mzolisi> sorry Logi: did'nt give much time to that issue, but im pretty sure our problems are related and are linked to kdelibs5 : in short, im stumped...for now
[10:22] <mzolisi> BB83 is probably right
[10:22] <Logi> ok, let's hope there is a fix soon after thepackager wakes up :)
[10:22] <przem__> BB83: how can I get there ?
[10:23] <mzolisi> It's probably a change in the filetypes settings for files of type 'bin' ?
[10:23] <BB83> Can you still have konqueror to start ?
[10:23] <przem__> BB83: Yes
[10:24] <BB83> in the konqueror window (kde 3.5?) you should have configuration -> file types
[10:24] <BB83> or something similar
[10:25] <BB83> przem, Sorry, it's configuration -> Configure konqueror -> file types
[10:26] <BB83> or "file associations"
[10:27] <mzolisi> similarly, put a shortcut to , say 'kate' on the desktop and dont associate with any filetypes . then click and you will be explicitly asked what application to associate with the 'bin' file
[10:27] <BB83> You have the first file type "all", I think you should have no applications associated to this (przem_)
[10:27] <mzolisi> if that makes sense
[10:27] <inzi1985> hi..
[10:27] <inzi1985> i need some help..
[10:27] <przem__> BB83: Yes I have, all
[10:27] <Savior> hi! is there someone here who is familiar with video drivers and xine? I do not mean ati, nvidia, etc., but xv, xshm, ...
[10:27] <Savior> xine doesn't seem to find them!
[10:28] <inzi1985> does anyone here use satgate internet service on kubuntu
[10:28] <BB83> so normally you have all, and when you open it, there's "all" and "allfiles", they should have no applications associated
[10:29] <przem__> BB83: Yes, they don't have any application association
[10:29] <BB83> ok, so it must be another one...
[10:30] <mzolisi> associate with BASH?
[10:30] <BB83> przem_ you have to search a bit in these filetypes, maybe remember the last you changed...
[10:30] <mzolisi> Or try 'Run in Terminal'?
[10:31] <mzolisi> IF ALL ELSE FAILS: 'locate konquerorrc'  Remove that file
[10:31] <mzolisi> Start Konqueror again and you'll default to original settings
[10:31] <BB83> mzolisi, the allfiles wildcard should be associated to nothing, so when you open an unknown file type it will ask you wich application you want
[10:32] <BB83> (I think)
[10:32] <przem__> I installed vlc, yesterday and associated flv with that application
[10:32] <BB83> ok
[10:32] <przem__> maybe this is the problem?
[10:32] <inzi1985> has anyone configured skystar2 on ubuntu
[10:32] <mzolisi> IT IS
[10:32] <BB83> przem_ ok then go to the flv, and verify the wildcard
[10:33] <mzolisi> przem: konqueror is now associated with octet-stream (a video media related format)
[10:33] <mzolisi> so that makes sense
[10:33] <BB83> przem_ it's in the right pane (general tab) that you must specify the file names (*.flv) not, in the list
[10:34] <przem__> so I have to remove association with vlc right?
[10:35] <DR_wolf> which is the best video player for Kubuntu
[10:36] <BB83> yes
[10:36] <przem__> ok
[10:36] <BB83> przem: yes, but only for the filetype that has the wrong wildcard
[10:36] <BB83> if the wildcard in the general tab is "*.flv" and no other, then this is not your problem
[10:37] <przem__> I've got two wild cards *.flv and *.FLV
[10:37] <przem__> and type application x-kdeuser2
[10:38] <przem__> but I removed vlc
[10:41] <przem__> Do I have to restart KDE to see chcnges?
[10:41] <przem__> changes
[10:41] <BB83> przem_ I don't think so for filetypes
[10:43] <BB83> przem_ what was your message again ? About "octet-stream" ?
[10:43] <przem__> yes: cannot find mime type application/octet-stream
[10:44] <BB83> If this is the case, try to go into the file associations menu, then "application" + "octet-stream", then in the right panel where you choose the application, you should have only konqueror
[10:46] <poison--> morning
[10:46] <jealma> hi
[10:46] <poison--> :D
[10:47] <jealma> I run kubuntu 7.10 and I'd like to try out KDE4 RC1
[10:47] <przem__> I'm afraid I've got no octet-stream type in the known file types tree
[10:47] <jealma> after installing kdebase-dev-kde4 and kdebase-workspace-dev and kdebase-runtime, how should I proceed ?
[10:48] <Tm_T> dius: root?
[10:50] <dius> hy guys
[10:51] <dius> how can i tgransfer the settings of konversation
[10:51] <ScorpKing> when i run sudo apt-get upgrade on feisty i get this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/ - how can i fix it?
[10:51] <dius> from normal user
[10:51] <dius> to super user.....?
[10:52] <ScorpKing> dius: the settings are kept in .kde/share/apps/konversation/
[10:52] <ScorpKing> as far as i know
[10:53] <dius> ando so....
[10:53] <dius> ops
[10:53] <dius> and so...
[10:53] <dius> ther'snt a settings for normal user...
[10:53] <dius> and another one for root?
[10:53] <dius> is the same?
[10:54] <Tm_T> root is root
[10:54] <dius> or they are totally different?
[10:54] <dius> sure...
[10:54] <BB83> przem__: solved ?
[10:54] <ScorpKing> copy that directory to the one for the other user. /root/.kde/share/apps/konversation/ for the root user
[10:54] <Tm_T> also I think I should note that you shouldn't run anything root unless really really needed
[10:54] <dius> Tim_t
[10:54] <dius> ops
[10:54] <dius> Tm_T:
[10:55] <dius> i need to download something
[10:55]  * ScorpKing agrees with Tm_T
[10:55] <dius> with  konversation
[10:55] <dius> but if in normal mode
[10:55] <dius> it doesn't open sda2 partition
[10:55] <dius> if in root
[10:55] <dius> like now i tried
[10:55] <dius> yes
[10:55] <ScorpKing> dius: fix the permissions on the sda2 partition
[10:55] <dius> help me
[10:55] <dius> if u can
[10:56] <ScorpKing> sure
[10:56] <dius> step by step....
[10:56] <ScorpKing> run kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:56] <dius> i opened mass astirage
[10:56] <dius> ah...
[10:56] <dius> wait
[10:57] <ScorpKing> !paste | dius: paste the file here and give us the link
[10:57] <BB83> przem__ ?
[10:57] <dius> sure
[10:57] <ubotu> dius: paste the file here and give us the link: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45346/
[11:00] <BB83> Is there an apt command to see which packages where specified which version to install
[11:00] <ScorpKing> make the sda2 entry look like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45347/
[11:00] <dius> i 've to unomunt the partition?
[11:01] <ScorpKing> you can
[11:01] <dius> i can do all...
[11:01] <dius> while partition is mounted
[11:01] <dius> ?
[11:01] <dius> i do a back before....
[11:02] <dius> ?
[11:02] <ScorpKing> yes.
[11:02] <ScorpKing> when you saved the file run sudo umount /dev/sda2
[11:02] <dius> i prefer su
[11:02] <dius> eheheh
[11:02] <BB83> Does someone know a command to list packages that where installed with another version as the default one ?
[11:03] <ScorpKing> BB83: not me :(
[11:04] <dius> umount ....
[11:04] <dius> and then
[11:04] <dius> mount?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> BB83: ask in #ubuntu and ##linux as well
[11:04] <ScorpKing> as normal user
[11:04] <ScorpKing> mount /dev/sda2
[11:05] <ScorpKing> the users option enable normal users to mount it but you can take it out coz it will be mounted at boot.
[11:05] <ScorpKing> sorry about that one. ;)
[11:05] <dius> waz?
[11:05] <dius> i have to do this
[11:05] <dius> from normal user...
[11:05] <dius> or root?
[11:05] <ScorpKing> any
[11:06] <dius> is the same?
[11:06] <ScorpKing> no but it will work
[11:06] <blendtux> i was wondering what kind of gtk theme is used on the new gimp screenshots on the gimp website
[11:06] <Gedwey> !php
[11:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:07] <dius> well..
[11:07] <dius> done
[11:07] <ScorpKing> is it working now?
[11:07] <dius> i have to start konversation to normal one?
[11:07] <ScorpKing> wait
[11:07] <dius> so i can tell u...
[11:07] <dius> yeap
[11:07] <dius> how can i see if work or not?
[11:07] <Gedwey> What program is best to open php.image.file?
[11:07] <ScorpKing> run ls -l /media/sda2/ and see the permissions
[11:07] <Gedwey> or photo
[11:08] <ScorpKing> Gedwey: in konsole run file <filename> to see what file that is. never seen a php image file
[11:08] <dius> ehmm
[11:08] <dius> i doesn't understand
[11:08] <dius> eheheheh
[11:09] <dius> can i paste on paste bin?
[11:09] <ScorpKing> paste one line here
[11:09] <dius> it's too much long...
[11:09] <ScorpKing> ah. pastebin then
[11:09] <dius> link?
[11:10] <ScorpKing> !permissions | dius: look at this sometime -
[11:10] <ubotu> dius: look at this sometime -: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[11:10] <ScorpKing> dius: please. lol
[11:10] <dius> thanx....
[11:10] <dius> eheheh
[11:10] <ScorpKing> !paste > dius
[11:11] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45349/
[11:12] <ScorpKing> ah.
[11:12] <ScorpKing> run sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/sda2/
[11:12] <dius> waz wrong?
[11:12] <Gedwey> ehh.. the file is a php script.. but its a photo
[11:13] <BB83> non duality ?
[11:13] <ScorpKing> dius: root owns the files thats why you can't read them.
[11:13] <BB83> this file isn't good or bad just bexause it doesn't open
[11:13] <ScorpKing> weird..
[11:13] <dius> it's working
[11:13] <BB83> Gedwey, you mean it has php extension but is a photo ?
[11:14] <ScorpKing> dius: run kdesu kate /etc/fstab again
[11:14] <dius> but he tells me
[11:14] <dius> function not permitted....
[11:14] <ScorpKing> hmm. right, it's vfat
[11:15] <dius> ok...
[11:15] <dius> i opened...
[11:15] <dius> i have to paste?
[11:15] <ScorpKing> dius: remove the users, option
[11:15] <ScorpKing> no paste
[11:16] <dius> eheheh
[11:16] <ScorpKing> no need for the users option there
[11:16] <dius> scorpion...
[11:16] <dius> tell me which is?
[11:16] <ScorpKing> ok one sec
[11:16] <Gedwey> yes.. its opening at gimp..
[11:17] <Gedwey> so no problem
[11:17] <Gedwey> :)
[11:17] <ScorpKing> dius: in this line - /media/sda2     vfat    users,defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000
[11:17] <ScorpKing> dius: remove users,
[11:17] <dius> ah
[11:17] <dius> eheheh
[11:17] <dius> okiz
[11:18] <ScorpKing> !vfat | dius
[11:18] <ubotu> dius: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:18] <ScorpKing> look at that sometime
[11:18] <dius> but there'snt
[11:18] <dius> thersn't
[11:18] <ScorpKing> pastebin the file
[11:18] <dius> i'm italian sorry....
[11:18] <ScorpKing> np
[11:20] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45352/
[11:20] <ScorpKing> hehe. you never saved the file. :P
[11:20] <dius> what...?
[11:21] <dius> sh..!!!
[11:21] <dius> eheheh
[11:21] <ScorpKing> lol. one sec.
[11:21] <dius> but i clicked on save button...
[11:21] <dius> -.-
[11:21] <dius> okiz
[11:22] <ScorpKing> make the /dev/sda2 line look like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45353/
[11:22] <ScorpKing> and plz save :P
[11:23] <dius> i overwrited...
[11:23] <dius> -.-
[11:23] <dius> try now?
[11:24] <ScorpKing> yes. unmount and remount as root
[11:24] <dius> done
[11:25] <ScorpKing> run ls -l /media/sda2/ again and see the permissions
[11:25] <dius> yeap
[11:25] <dius> my name
[11:25] <dius> is instead of root
[11:25] <ScorpKing> nice
[11:25] <dius> eheheheh
[11:26] <dius> Scorpion
[11:26] <dius> i try with konversation
[11:26] <dius> i normal one?
[11:26] <ScorpKing> the options uid=1000,gid=1000 made it your name. ;)
[11:26] <dius> instead of root
[11:26] <dius> thanx
[11:26] <dius> i've to study the permission
[11:26] <ScorpKing> you have to mount as root.
[11:26] <ScorpKing> you're welcome :D
[11:26] <dius> but now...
[11:26] <dius> it mounts
[11:27] <ScorpKing> have work to to. will be back in a sec.
[11:27] <dius> by itself
[11:27] <dius> ?
[11:29] <ScorpKing> yes
[11:30] <ScorpKing> hey dius come back! lol
[11:30] <ScorpKing> sda1 has the same problem. hehe
[11:31] <ScorpKing> i have a problem - ubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:31] <ScorpKing> here is the full error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/
[11:32] <niko_> ScorpKing:
[11:33] <niko_> wprks perferctly
[11:33] <niko_> THNX!!!
[11:33] <niko_> i love this community!!!
[11:33] <ScorpKing> you're welcome
[11:33] <niko_> eheheh
[11:33] <ScorpKing> stay here
[11:33] <niko_> yeap for sure....
[11:33] <niko_> even if i'm italian
[11:34] <niko_> i know some words in english
[11:34] <plontaj> hello :D
[11:34] <niko_> so i can ask for help   ;-)))
[11:34] <loguser1> can i upgrade my kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 by live cd?
[11:34] <tung> Hi
[11:34] <plontaj> yes U can
[11:35] <loguser1> plontaj:  me?
[11:35] <plontaj> but I prefer upgrade with console
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: by dvd yes or by alternate cd, not by desktop/live cd
[11:35] <plontaj> wrtie in console
[11:35] <ScorpKing> niko_: sda1 have the same problem
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: a non recommended way is to change feisty to gutsy in your sources.list then update and dist-upgrade with aptitude
[11:35] <loguser1> WaltzingAlong:  ok.    is the dvd a live dvd?
[11:35] <tung> I have a problem with usplash
[11:35] <plontaj> sudo apt-get upgrade :D
[11:35] <ScorpKing> tung: ask away.. :P
[11:36] <tung> it doesn't load after I choose kubuntu in grub
[11:36] <loguser1> plontaj:  how to do that by adept manager
[11:36] <ScorpKing> tung: check the resolution in /etc/usplash.conf
[11:36] <ScorpKing> !usplash
[11:36] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:36] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: ye
[11:37] <loguser1> where can i get details. more......
[11:37] <tung> it's okay 1024:768
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: yes; the dvd can be used live or installed from terminal ... or used as a source for the a dist-upgrade
[11:37] <ScorpKing> tung: i saw the same problem in the forums. look on google, they have a solution there
[11:38] <plontaj> Whobody know how I can install macromedia splash in amd64?
[11:38] <tung> ScorpKing: can you send me the address
[11:38] <loguser1> and whats the difference in live cd and unlive cd
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: flash or shockwave? shockwave has to be used through firefox in wine
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> !flash | plontaj
[11:39] <ubotu> plontaj: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> !gnash | plontaj
[11:40] <ubotu> plontaj: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:40] <plontaj> thank's U
[11:41] <ScorpKing> tung: read through that - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584205&page=2
[11:41] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: for flash on 64bit one way is through a 32bit chroot; another is the nspluginwrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[11:41]  * ScorpKing goes away for a few minutes.. bbl
[11:41] <tung> thanks
[11:43] <seezer> has anyone successfully installed the kde4 rc1 packages incl. kdm-kde4?
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: where are you getting stuck?
[11:45] <seezer> WaltzingAlong: dpkg reports "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[11:45] <seezer> but i can't find the reason in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: had you removed kdelibs5
[11:46] <seezer> yes, removed everything
[11:46] <loguser1> what will sudo apt-get upgrade do ?
[11:46] <seezer> but i could try that again. perhaps i missed something..
[11:46] <tung> how can I upgrade to KDE 4RC
[11:46] <seezer> loguser1: talking to me?
[11:47] <ScorpKing> seezer: looks like i have the same problem - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> tung: www.kubuntu.org
[11:47] <ScorpKing> but with an update
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: man apt-get
[11:47] <sahin_w> tung: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[11:47] <loguser1> plontaj:  apt-get upgrade tell you download 1 37 mb . but when i full upgrade iin adept manager . it says to download 250mb. why ?
[11:47] <loguser1> seezer talking to al
[11:48] <seezer> ScorpKing: related - but not exactly the same. i get no error beside "postinst script failed."
[11:48] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[11:48] <seezer> WaltzingAlong: did it work for you?
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: doing so now
[11:49] <plontaj> loguser1: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:49] <seezer> ok. tell me when you hit the kdm-kde4 package ;)
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: ok ;D
[11:49] <plontaj> maybe this way
[11:51] <plontaj> the flash on youtube is running but not is downloading :/
[11:51] <plontaj> wtf?
[11:51] <Riddell> seezer: kdm-kde4 postinst seems to break a lot, just rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; apt-get -f install
[11:52] <loguser1> k
[11:52] <seezer> Riddell: hmkay. that did work. thanks ;)
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> Riddell: seezer, yeah broke here too
[11:55] <seezer> gonna try the switch now
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> and as suggested sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install  took care of it
[11:56] <seezer> re
[11:57] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[11:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:10] <Gedwey> What java is the best install?
[12:10] <bytems> depends on the java applications you're running
[12:10] <Gedwey> Online games
[12:11] <rasmus> i've just formated everything and reinstalled gutsy. How do i replace the new home-folder with my old packup?
[12:11] <Gedwey> backup??
[12:11] <bytems> hmmm then any installation should be fine for you
[12:11] <Gedwey> ohh :s
[12:12] <BB83> Does someone have an idea ? I'm running gutsy with compiz, when I go into system params->desktop, X11 restarts, if I access this config window from a right click on a panel it works but display no options for a second panel even if I have two
[12:12] <rasmus> well, i have ah back up of my old home-folder and just wan't to replace the new one with this
[12:12] <bytems> classpath and any free implementation make sense when you've got some heavy load programm running like chatserver/p2p software etc..
[12:14] <Gedwey> what about using the backup service and use that program to use what you backed up?
[12:15] <rasmus> well, i just copied the home folder to my external harddrive
[12:16] <rasmus> haven't used any programs, maybe not so bright
[12:16] <Gedwey> I dont know if this work but try to copy it back on the root folder then.. but it can crash the computer:S
[12:17] <Gedwey> if you had it would have backed up everything :P and just a button click when you had the reinstall :P
[12:17] <Gedwey> I dont know if this work but try to copy it back on the root folder then.. but it can crash the computer:S
[12:18] <rasmus> no problem with a crash
[12:18] <Gedwey> this should only add the rest that arent there
[12:18] <rasmus> yes, well, i tried something like it, but i realize that maybe i made a misstake, i'll try again
[12:18] <Gedwey> make sure to COPY only
[12:18] <Gedwey> choose overwrite
[12:25] <rasmus> thanx, i'll restart and se what will happen
[12:30] <Stilo> hi!
[12:30] <pag> hey Stilo :)
[12:31] <Stilo> i dont want superkaramba start when i log in to a session. There is no link in the folder Autostart. How can i change this
[12:31] <tomaz> just close superkaramba
[12:32] <tomaz> and after you log out, things will be saved without superkaramba opened
[12:33] <Stilo> but so i have to do this all time when i shut down my pc. And thats annoying
[12:34]  * timri wonders why libxine in gutsy backports depends on a lot of gnome stuff
[12:35] <timri> Stilo: Perhaps this will help: Go into the session manager, add superkaramba in the "Applications to be excluded from sessions"
[12:36] <Stilo> trimri: i tried it but it doesnt work. I dont know why..
[12:36] <zorg_the_false> q. what is the name of the voice over IP alternative to skype. something in opensource
[12:36] <zorg_the_false> i know it exists, i just dont remember the name :)
[12:38] <timri> Stilo: Ah, sorry to hear that. In that case I can't help you I'am afraid (I know next to nothing about superkaramba)
[12:38] <zorg_the_false> !skype
[12:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:39] <Stilo> ok..np. i have to go! cya
[12:40] <timri> zorg_the_false: Wengophone, ekiga, and, to a lesser degree kopete
[12:40] <zorg_the_false> timri: ok thanks. kopete support voip now ? which protocol ?
[12:41] <timri> zorg_the_false: Through wengo IIRC (that's SIP btw)
[12:41] <timri> Abbrev man strikes again!
[12:41] <zorg_the_false> timri: ok nice :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> timri: erm?
[12:42] <Gedwey> how the hell do i uninstall wine?
[12:42] <Tm_T> zorg_the_false: no, there's no direct support to any VOIP in Kopete
[12:42] <timri> Tm_T: Abbreviation as in IIRC, SIP and btw :)
[12:42] <Tm_T> I know
[12:42] <zorg_the_false> Tm_T: i notice the "direct" in your sentence. does this mean that "kopete->wengo" is working or not ?
[12:43] <timri> Tm_T: Hence my "to a lesser degree". I have seen someone kludge it with kcall and dcop though
[12:43] <zorg_the_false> well i dont think kopete should do voip :)
[12:43] <Tm_T> zorg_the_false: though it can use Skype with Skype plugin AND there's buggy broken Jabber Jingle support "hidden"
[12:43] <zorg_the_false> so i think it is good to rely on other tool :)
[12:43] <Tm_T> timri: doable yes
[12:44] <zorg_the_false> Tm_T: ok
[12:44]  * zorg_the_false is way too much duplication in opensource :)
[12:44] <Tm_T> well Skype for instance isn
[12:44] <Tm_T> 't opensource :)
[12:45] <timri> Gedwey: Eh, sudo aptitude purge wine ?
[12:46] <erik__> How do i change the keyboard layout _
[12:47] <erik__> after i installed some stuff my keymap has change to us i think and i need norwegian
[12:48] <Gedwey> ty timri
[12:48] <Gedwey> hmm
[12:49] <erik__> nvm found it out
[12:49] <loguser1> how can i check my kernel versioon by terminal?
[12:49] <erik__> loguser1:  uname -a
[12:50] <loguser1> how to create a desktop shortcut to a drive
[12:50] <loguser1>  or partittion
[12:51] <erik__> just right click on your desktop
[12:52] <loguser1> that gives shortcut for whole drive. not a single partition
[12:52] <erik__> then you have to create a shortcut to a directory not a whole drive
[12:53] <loguser1> how exactly
[12:54] <erik__> kinda despends where that partition is mounted
[12:56] <zorg_the_false> wengophone really try to make a good software... this is nice
[12:57] <desio> hello
[12:57] <loguser1> n           /media/sda6Work
[13:01] <erik__> from terminal cd to your Desktop then write "ln -s /media/sda6Work NameOnShotcut"
[13:06] <patricio> hmpf, I delete 20 contacts in my kadressbook(kontacts) but they reappear on every open! wth?
[13:07] <jaguilera> hi all
[13:08] <jaguilera> i'm using feisty, and since recently adept updater notifies me of a new distribution upgrade availbable (gutsy oc), but I'm not sure if there are any known issues with that upgrade ... hints?
[13:09] <Tm_T> jaguilera: known
[13:09] <Lynoure> jaguilera: if you are a laptop user and need hibernation, check launchpad first to see if it is likely to be broken for you.
[13:10] <timri> Lynoure: ??
[13:10] <Lynoure> timri: please rephrase
[13:10] <jaguilera> it's a desktop, and hibernation never worked with him, so I just don't use it ;)
[13:11] <Tm_T> jaguilera: if it's not "production system" then give it a try :-P
[13:11] <Lynoure> jaguilera: then there is a known issues page somewhere, too, I cannot remember the url, though
[13:11] <timri> Lynoure: I think jaguilera's problem has little to do with hibernation. He/she is  experiencing a known bug (can't recall the #)
[13:11] <Tm_T> timri: nah
[13:11] <Lynoure> timri: I only saw those comments he wrote after just joining a channel
[13:11] <jaguilera> i'm not experiencing any bug yet, I just want to be sure of any known one before hand
[13:12] <timri> jalbert: , Tm: Ah, ok. I need some coffee :)
[13:12] <Lynoure> timri: I wish someone had warned me about the hibernation before I upgraded. Downgrading is too much hassle, so I have not done it yet
[13:12] <jaguilera> i guess it can't go tooo wrong so I'll just go on, and cross mu fingers
[13:12] <jaguilera> (famous last phrase)
[13:12] <timri> Lynoure: I feel your pain. My laptop is completely disfunctional in the suspend/resume/hibernate/thaw department :(
[13:13] <jaguilera> thx ppl
[13:13] <ubuntu> For Gutsy, can someone advise which desktop is advisable for a new be, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[13:13]  * timri ducks
[13:14] <Tm_T> ubuntu: both have pros and cons
[13:14] <Tm_T> ubuntu: I'd say: try them both
[13:14] <ubuntu> Which one I install
[13:14] <Tm_T> Kubuntu ofcourse ;)
[13:14] <timri> ubuntu: Try the two livecd's
[13:14] <Tm_T> timri: or install both etc
[13:15] <ubuntu> Yes I tried, right now I want features of both, but what should be my base
[13:15] <timri> Tm_T: I wouldn't. I have seen too many problems from people installing kubuntu_desktop over an ubuntu install
[13:16] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Kubuntu if you ask from me
[13:16] <Tm_T> timri: I have had all 4 -desktops installed
[13:16] <timri> ubuntu: Since this is a kubuntu support channel, we are all more or less partial to kubuntu :)
[13:16] <Tm_T> actually, still is
[13:16] <timri> Tm_T: You are not an average user :)
[13:17] <ubuntu> Its okay I too liked Kubuntu, and want to make it default with an additional desktop of ubuntu
[13:17] <Tm_T> ubuntu: please do then, if any problems, we are here
[13:17] <ubuntu> Okay thanks see you after half an hour!
[13:18]  * Tm_T hides
[13:19]  * timri wonders why libxine in gutsy backports depends on a lot of gnome stuff
[13:28] <Arelis> Hi all. I've recently installed the core of KDE and installed some applications for various tasks, but i might've missed some. What are some good applications for tasks i might be doing on the computer?
[13:32] <timri> Arelis: Given your vague description it is difficult for us to give you pointers. You might try installing kubuntu-desktop and get a feel for the various applications. That way you can decide what you like/need.
[13:34] <Arelis> no, i really don't want that.  But i'll list my tasks, then: I need my computer for schoolwork, searching guitar tabs, listening to music, taking notes, downloading (from bittorrent AND http), managing my files, watching movies and video's, Animation (i'm an animator by hobby), drawing, painting, gaming, managing my photo's, managing my website... and i think more, but i can't think of more right now
[13:34] <Arelis> timri: ping
[13:35] <fregl> are there debug packages for adept available?
[13:35] <Lynoure> Arelis: amarok, ktorrent, basket, kate, konqueror, dolphin, kaffeine, gimp, kflickr, digikam
[13:39] <Lynoure> Arelis: I don't know anything for animation apart from Blender
[13:39] <timri> Arelis: An alternative to gimp: krita
[13:39] <Arelis> Lynoure: 2d animation, i meant. Somewhat like macromedia flash
[13:39] <Lynoure> Arelis: ok, I don't know anything for 2d animation, unless you'd mean animated gifs...
[13:39] <Lynoure> Which you probably don't
[13:40] <Arelis> Lynoure: nope, i don't.
[13:40] <livingdaylight> anyone know about Avant Window Manager?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> what the pre-requisites are? i see nothing related to that on the Awn website
[13:42] <timri> Arelis: For animation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synfig
[13:42] <livingdaylight> anyone here?
[13:42] <timri> Arelis: Disclaimer: I have NO experience with the application, nor any in the animation field :)
[13:42] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: last I checked Avant, their pages said it's probably never doing to become usable, so not much I can say...
[13:43] <DaSkreech> !find avant
[13:43] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: if it is packaged correctly, it should take care of it's own dependencies
[13:44] <ubotu> File avant found in wims-modules
[13:44] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: my concern is that i don't have a 3-D enabled Desktop
[13:45] <livingdaylight> anyone know whether (y)AWN works with an old or non-3-D enabled Desktop?
[13:46] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: why not just try?
[13:48] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: coz i wouldn't wanna break my system...
[13:48] <livingdaylight> or slow it down
[13:49] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: you can probably uninstall from cli if you need to.
[13:50] <Arelis> timri: wow synfig looks awesome, if not better than flash
[13:51] <timri> :)
[13:51] <Arelis> timri: is it better than flash?
[13:52] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: its not so straightforward. its not in repos and so needs more investment setting it up; hence i just wondered if someone knew
[13:52] <timri> Arelis: As I said: I have no experience with it whatsoever. In fact, I just googled for "kde vector animation". Never heard of it before ;)
[13:52] <Arelis> timri: well, look at the demo video's
[13:52] <timri> Arelis: Later perhaps, got to go now.
[13:52]  * timri waves. Bye all
[13:52] <bryan> libdvdcss where can i get it?
[13:52] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: does not seem to. you could try to contact the devs of avant?
[13:53] <Jucato> !libdvdcss | bryan
[13:53] <ubotu> bryan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:53] <bryan> sweet
[13:53] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: yesh
[13:54] <bryan> so it's libdvdread?
[14:11] <snake> bonjour tout le monde!
[14:15] <loguser1> where can i find drivers and softwares for alpha tv tuner ?
[14:17] <bryan_> how can i set up my trackpad?
[14:17] <DaSkreech> !trackpad
[14:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:17] <DaSkreech> Dang
[14:17] <DaSkreech>  :)
[14:18] <ubuntu_> русский
[14:18] <ubuntu_> русский
[14:18] <DaSkreech> !ru
[14:18] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:25] <patricio> how to install freetype/truetype fonts?(kubuntu gutsy gibbon)
[14:25] <loguser1> where can i find drivers and softwares for alpha tv tuner ?
[14:26] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[14:26] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:27] <patricio> thx
[14:27] <stdin> !tv | loguser1
[14:27] <ubotu> loguser1: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[14:39] <loguser1> iam unable to use my tv card. (alpha tv tuner)
[14:40] <loguser1> its pci
[14:43] <loguser1> helo..........
[14:44] <[ifr0g]> how do i watch avi in tty mode ?
[14:45] <loguser1> i never.
[14:46] <loguser1> just installed linux
[14:48] <waylandbill> loguser1: welcome to the growing community. :)
[14:49] <waylandbill> stdin sent you a link to look at.
[14:49] <loguser1> yes
[14:49] <loguser1> just asking. will i need any driver besides the tv app.
[14:49] <loguser1> if yes. which one
[14:50] <loguser1> waylandbill:  thx
[14:50] <loguser1> :)
[14:51] <nchung> !compiz
[14:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <loguser1> is there a place where i can find most famous , "catagorised" apps for linux.
[14:54] <[ifr0g]> anyone ?
[14:56] <loguser1> can one recommend a very good , dictionary. (better if multimedia) for my pc?
[14:56] <[ifr0g]> i belive by using some video buffer, any idea ?
[14:56] <oupa> !kde4
[14:56] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[14:57] <stdin> needs updating ^
[14:57]  * stdin prods Jucato
[14:57] <Jucato> let me actually finish it?
[14:58] <stdin> heh
[14:58] <Jucato> !kde4
[14:58] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[14:59] <stdin> much better
[14:59] <Jucato> at your service
[14:59]  * Jucato segfaults
[15:02] <surgy> hello i need help getting my gamepad mapped to my keyboard, i tryed several peices of sofware but for some reason or another i cant seam to get these to work, anyone around that might give me a hand?
[15:09] <loguser1> iam in the middle of apt-get download.       can i stop it and download an other app and then again resume the previous downloadings ?
[15:11] <surgy> no
[15:12] <onishidato> hello
[15:12] <onishidato> is some one can help me with Kubuntu
[15:13] <onishidato> i don't know what to do
[15:13] <B4S3M> where can i get the Xglpackage,deb ?
[15:13] <surgy> !info Xglpackage.deb
[15:13] <ubotu> Package xglpackage.deb does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <surgy> !ask || onishidato
[15:14] <ubotu> | onishidato: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:14] <stdin> loguser1: you can as long as it hasn't started installing
[15:14] <B4S3M> !info Verilogger
[15:14] <ubotu> Package verilogger does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <onishidato> how can i update kubuntu
[15:14] <stdin> B4S3M: xserver-xgl is xgl
[15:14] <B4S3M> !info Xgl
[15:14] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <stdin> onishidato: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[15:15] <surgy> stdin: can you help me  with a gamepad problem please?
[15:16] <stdin> surgy: I've never tried to use a gamepad, so I don't know
[15:16] <korex> зкеукевапвап
[15:16] <stdin> !ru | korex
[15:16] <ubotu> korex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[15:16] <surgy> ok
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> Logi: yes
[15:16] <B4S3M> how can i know my linux version ?
[15:16] <stdin> !version
[15:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> B4S3M: uname -a
[15:17] <DR_wolf> how to install PCtel HSP56 micomodem
[15:17] <B4S3M> ok any ideas where i can find the Xgl
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> !info xserver-xgl | B4S3M
[15:17] <ubotu> b4s3m: xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB
[15:18] <onishidato> i can't update my kubuntu
[15:18] <stdin> B4S3M: i already told you
[15:18] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: explain
[15:19] <onishidato> when i try to set the upates in the Adept, they don't give me the options Recommended updates and pre released updates
[15:20] <stdin> in the "Updates" tab
[15:20] <onishidato> yes
[15:20] <stdin> what version of kubuntu do you have?
[15:20] <apparle> this site says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/PcTel I will have to change the kernel. I have gutsy. Do I need to change the kernel
[15:22] <stdin> apparle: it needs a really old kernel version (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[15:22] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[15:22] <loguser1> Password:
[15:22] <loguser1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <loguser1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:22] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:22] <loguser1> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[15:22] <stdin> Gutsy is running 2.6.22
[15:22] <B4S3M> !info WinFOSS
[15:22] <ubotu> Package winfoss does not exist in gutsy
[15:22] <stdin> !paste | loguser1
[15:22] <ubotu> loguser1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:23] <loguser1> k
[15:23] <stdin> loguser1: close adept if you have it open
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | loguser1; apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, adept, synaptic, and so on ... only one can have exclusive access to the dpkg db
[15:23] <ubotu> loguser1; apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, adept, synaptic, and so on ... only one can have exclusive access to the dpkg db: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:23] <stdin> !aptfix | loguser1, if adept isn't open try this
[15:23] <ubotu> loguser1, if adept isn't open try this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:23] <apparle> stdin: do I need to change my kernel to install PCTel HSP56 mode
[15:23] <stdin> apparle: yes
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: it seems so
[15:24] <apparle> what if I just install the driver tar file
[15:24] <loguser1> k
[15:24] <onishidato> my versoin is 7.10 gusty
[15:24] <onishidato> how can i fix it now
[15:24] <stdin> onishidato: then you are already up to date
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: 7.10 gutsy gibbon is the most recent k/x/ubuntu
[15:25] <apparle> Also I tried installing kubuntu 7
[15:25] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade           would get updates and upgrades to packages presently installed but you have kubuntu 7.10 already
[15:25] <apparle> .10 and crashed at 94% thrice
[15:26] <apparle> Also I tried installing kubuntu 7.10 and crashed at 94% thrice. Anybody here gone through GRUB Error 15
[15:26] <onishidato> how can i use Amarok to play Mp3?
[15:27] <stdin> onishidato: install the package called "kubuntu-restricted-extras" from adept
[15:27] <stdin> then restart amarok
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: on a roll ;D
[15:27] <onishidato> i search but i don't have it
[15:28] <stdin> if you have gutsy you do
[15:28] <stdin> make sure all the boxes in the "Manage Repositories" window are checked
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | onishidato
[15:28] <ubotu> onishidato: kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[15:28] <stdin> then click "Fetch Updates"
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all !
[15:29] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[15:29] <onishidato> oh y got
[15:29] <onishidato> i still can't find it
[15:30] <onishidato> my got
[15:30] <onishidato> my god
[15:30] <B4S3M> ok silly question .... i can i install the xgl package after downloading it :D ?
[15:30] <stdin> B4S3M: you open adept and install xserver-xgl, that's it
[15:30] <apparle> somebody please tell me what to do about GRUB error 15 ...SOS .....I canot boot my PC
[15:30] <Eyeless> only one app at the time can use my soundcard which is pretty annoying, anyone have any pointers on what i should do (card is a Realtek ALC888)?
[15:31] <stdin> onishidato: try closing adept, open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:31] <[ifr0g]> how do i watch avi in tty mode ?
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: ask all knowing google?
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: try #grub ?
[15:32] <stdin> apparle: you could just try reinstalling grub too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:32] <onishidato> onishidato@Annie:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:32] <onishidato> Reading package lists... Done
[15:32] <onishidato> Building dependency tree
[15:32] <onishidato> Reading state information... Done
[15:32] <onishidato> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | Eyeless: get alsa working if it is not
[15:32] <ubotu> Eyeless: get alsa working if it is not: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:32] <B4S3M> and how can i have the 3D Desktop thing ?
[15:32] <onishidato> that is what i got
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/  | B4S3M
[15:33] <stdin> !compiz | B4S3M
[15:33] <ubotu> B4S3M: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:33] <apparle> stdin: tried it and failed , Also tried Super Grub Disk
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: you would have to 1) have gutsy and 2) enable multiverse
[15:34] <andycr> Hi, I'm trying to use Compiz Fusion with KDE, but how do I get KWin to work with Compiz?
[15:34] <onishidato> how can i enable multiverse?
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> !multiverse | onishidato
[15:34] <ubotu> onishidato: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: adept manager / adept menu / manage repositories / then enable them there
[15:35] <Eyeless> WaltzingAlong: ill have a look ty
[15:35] <stdin> gutsy should have all repositories enabled by default
[15:35] <surgy> ok i need this package, becuase i deb that i want to install relies on it, libqt3c102-mt and i allready have libqt3-mt installed, can anyone help?
[15:35] <stdin> surgy: why do you need to install that ?
[15:35] <surgy> for qjoypad
[15:36] <B4S3M> where can i get a Verilogger for linux .... its a sofware for digital desing .... and i cant run i through wine :S
[15:36] <surgy> stdin: can you help?
[15:36] <Logi> WaltzingAlong: um, what was the question again, I've been doing other (more profitable) things for hours now
[15:37] <Logi> WaltzingAlong: or your nick-completion mis-fired when aiming at loguser1?
[15:37] <xeross> My adept manager wont install packages anymore every time it errors out
[15:37] <xeross> i tried nvidia-glx and firefox
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> Logi: yes as apt-get or the others (adept or aptitude) is downloading packages, they are saved in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial then moved to /var/cache/apt/archives/ when completed. stopping then starting again the upgrade will not need download what is already in the cache