[00:18] <wxl> TIL no backup codes with 2FA in phab. that means that if someone loses theirs, its on us to manually strip 2FA from their account. but how do we verify them? that's a nice security catch-22. https://secure.phabricator.com/T6549
[00:20] <wxl> that said, new phone, and sadly i just discovered there's no simple backup solution in freeotp, so looks like i'm going to at least do that to my own account.
[02:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfac98585adea: Fix extraneous text] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfac98585adea
 @tsimonq2 [So technically it's teward's fault], as I said before:
 it's actually Discourse's fault
 for using Apache under the hood
[02:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc6cec768b972: Remove extraneous backtick] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc6cec768b972
[02:29] <wxl> @teward001 it seems that general concept (discourse being weird because it's weird) escapes poor simon
 :P
[02:37] <wxl> case in point: backups
[04:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe25f7f29f46d: Add how to turn off line numbers] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe25f7f29f46d
[04:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL26dea088b641: Add inertial scrolling checkbox to featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL26dea088b641
[04:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL15d921282ad0: Reorder Files tab sentences to follow what shows on the prefrences window] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL15d921282ad0
 Wxl: you there?
[04:53] <wxl> yep
 I didn't understand the 2nd point of your "some quibbes" from the comment on D17
 And about "GoToDesktop directional", yeah, removed it from changelog
[04:55] <wxl> you have:
[04:55] <wxl>   * Some commented out items are removed
[04:55] <wxl>    - lxpanel menu
[04:55] <wxl>    - lxsession default lock
[04:55] <wxl>    - calculator
[04:55] <wxl>    - screenshot
[04:55] <wxl> - quit
[04:55] <wxl> i'm suggesting just chaging that to the first line only
 Okay.
[04:55] <wxl> no one really cares about things that weren't functional XD
 Do we actually keybind calculator to anything now?
 because with my new mechanical keyboard I have a calculator key for the first time
[04:56] <wxl> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 And about the 1st point there, "next panel" is what? Also switch desktop is in D18
 @wxl [<wxl> no one really cares about things that weren't functional XD], I thought changelog should be nice and verbose?
[04:57] <wxl> that's for switching between panels (weird)
[04:57] <wxl>   <keybind key="C-A-Tab">
[04:57] <wxl>     <action name="NextWindow">
[04:57] <wxl>       <panels>yes</panels><desktop>yes</desktop>
[04:57] <wxl>       <finalactions>
[04:57] <wxl>         <action name="Focus"/>
[04:57] <wxl>         <action name="Raise"/>
[04:57] <wxl>         <action name="Unshade"/>
[04:57] <wxl>       </finalactions>
[04:57] <wxl>     </action>

[04:58] <wxl> you should seek a careful balance between saying enough but not saying too much :)
 Ohh C+A+Tab ? Ah! That's actually weird only. Lite. Don't worry much.
[04:58] <wxl> if we were removing something that previously was functional, even if we said we don't care about it, i'd make note of it. but if it's useless, who cares?
 @wxl [<wxl> if we were removing something that previously was functional, even if we s …], Okay. I will write it in only one line.
 Check the diff now please.
 Also, why version no 19.10.4 ? Last one was 19.10.1 na? So shouldn't this be .2?
[05:02] <wxl> looks good
[05:02] <wxl> !info lubuntu-default-settings eoan
[05:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5ad257475610: Reword remember size on closing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5ad257475610
 @ubot93 [<ubot93> lubuntu-default-settings (19.10.3, eoan): default settings for Lubuntu. …], Ack
[05:02] <wxl> you might want to read the wiki page on versions
 Can't do it rn. But send link anyways. Will read when free.
 @TJ- [<TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker: sounds like you're doing it back-to-front. The way I do …], Noted. Will see what I can do.
[05:04] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging-versions/
 Thanks!
[05:05] <wxl> how's the xdg fix for globalkeys coming along?
 Did you see T59#1772 ?
[05:05] <wxl> full links might be more helpful here
[05:06] <wxl> right that's what i was asking about
 @wxl [<wxl> how's the xdg fix for globalkeys coming along?], Latest package builds nicely. Without patch that is. Currently downloading the patch of latest commit from 2 days ago. Which merged the required PR into master.
[05:10] <wxl> okie dokie
 It says patch doesnot apply
 I was applying it to latest upstream release.
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P23
[05:38] <TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker right, hunk #8 failed, so you examine the files where the >>>> and <<<< markers are and fix it up manually
[05:39] <TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker: patch is telling you the file is daemon/core.cpp so you can search that for all markers and figure out a fix then remove the 'old' code plus the markers
 thanks! will check.
 also, why am I unable to clone rLXQT-GLOBALKEYS with ssh? It says check access rights
[10:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc2b0f606aaca: Add hide search bar by default] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc2b0f606aaca
[10:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL727747d16081: Reword in quick launch to launch pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL727747d16081
[14:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1773
 wxl @tsimonq2 Ubuntu SSO login for Discourse is not going to happen any time soon
 see the RT you're copied on
 (E:Incompatible)
[14:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> !info lxqt-globalkeys eoan
 Ggwp lugito!
 what version no do I give it?
 @tsimonq2 wake up already nooblet
 Why do we use quilt push to push a patch and not git am < name.patch ?
[15:18] <apt-ghetto> Because lxqt-globalkeys is a non-native package
 Sorry I missed the last meeting since I had surgery last week. The progress I remember is that i was able to get the iso tester running as indicated by the web interface but I don't think it was necessarily recognizing the iso I provided. I would want to work with someone on this sometime this week if anyone gets a chance
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1775
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T59: fix keyboard shortcuts  3]   15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda …], anyone understands whats happening here?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [anyone understands whats happening here?], well it SOUNDS like the patches as written don't apply to the 'latest upstream version' you've gone and downloaded
 or there's revisions in the Lubuntu ones which make the patches not apply properly
 which can happen.
 i'd have to dig deeper, but my guess is that this is a case of patches being invalid for what's in Ubuntu due to reasons such as invalid 'surrounding' code lines, etc.
 might have to do your diff manually and then apply it manually
[17:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1776
 @teward001 [or there's revisions in the Lubuntu ones which make the patches not apply proper …], in lubuntu we are only appliying one patch by ourselves which just changes the conf file ref https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGINGc38d485eb9211ee4209058186658684a52cc5034 I don't think it should cause the patch to fa
 you do know you can just add '.patch' to the end of a github commit url to get the raw patch?
 ^ that
 @The_LoudSpeaker [https://phab.lubuntu.me/P23], ^
 @RikMills P23 is what happens when I do that.
 @The_LoudSpeaker maybe you need to apply other upstream patches first.
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker maybe you need to apply other upstream patches first.], If this patch was the last commit on the master branch and master branch builds correctly using their methods, then also?
 I get … Applying patch xdg-final.patch … patching file daemon/core.cpp … Hunk #8 FAILED at 732. … Hunk #9 succeeded at 770 (offset -1 lines). … 1 out of 9 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file daemon/core.cpp … patching file daemon/core.h … patching file daemon/main.cpp … Hunk #1 succeeded at 43 with fuzz 1. … Patch xdg-final.patch does no
 against the unpacked source from Eoan archive
 @RikMills [I get … Applying patch xdg-final.patch … patching file daemon/core.cpp … Hunk #8 FAIL …], That's exactly what I got. see P23
 you need to apply patches from where eoan sources is to the one you need.
 No, you got a lot more failed hunks
 also keep in mind fuzz is bad 😜
 @teward001 [also keep in mind fuzz is bad 😜], yep, refresh, once the failing hunk is fixed
 @HMollerCl [you need to apply patches from where eoan sources is to the one you need.], Yeah … ```pull-lp-source lxqt-globalkeys```
 @HMollerCl [you need to apply patches from where eoan sources is to the one you need.], check P24 that's what I get when I am applying the patch to release 0.14.1 which is the one from which eoan sources.
 eoan sources way ahead from github, last upstream was commited in march
 @The_LoudSpeaker [check P24 that's what I get when I am applying the patch to release 0.14.1 which …], I did. they are not the same
 @RikMills [No, you got a lot more failed hunks], more failed hunks are when I don't use raw patch.
 @RikMills [I did. they are not the same], Just so we don't get confused,  … P23 is when I use a patch which I create by adding .patch to commit url. … P24 is when I use a patch created using `git diff bd9cb26d217ef7633570c947e5e7e410564eafc1 bd9cb26d217ef7633570c947e5e7e410564eafc1^ > ~/xdg-final.patch`
 in earlier case, I get exactly what you got( 1 hunk fail) and in second case I have more hunks failing.
 @The_LoudSpeaker have you follow this?
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging-example/
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker have you follow this?], Yup! line to line. see https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1775
[18:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1775
 What I think is that there need to be applied previous patches. Don't know well how to check which of them.
[18:14] <kc2bez> paste a `quilt series` please
 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/e0b23717e2f2efe503d5b56936831d4f22aaf870#diff-ab80dc7dc08557f267fdbc304d93533f
 that commit since 0.14.1 is the big cause of the hunk #8 fail
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> paste a `quilt series` please], `raman@Aspire-ES1-132:~/opt/lxqt-globalkeys$ quilt series  … complete-config-file.patch … xdg-final.patch … raman@Aspire-ES1-132:~/opt/lxqt-globalkeys$`
 @RikMills [that commit since 0.14.1 is the big cause of the hunk #8 fail], so I will try patching that first and then applying raw patch of required commit.
 It might be all that is need. However, danger is, unless you quite well understand the code/changes and their intent, backportring more patches to make other patches to apply can in some cases just make bigger problem. i.e. patches might apply, but not work at runtime/compiletime with the rest of the code
 okay.
 btw a side shot,  …  - I checkedout the branch `releases-0.14.x` on the upstream code. …  - then ran `git am > ~/xdg-final.patch`  … (xdg-final.patch is the one I created using git diff command on master branch's latest commit)  … I am planning to see it the patch applies. But the problem is that the command is running since l
[19:04] <wxl> i'm putting this down for posterity: PHABRICATOR DOES NOT PROVIDE 2FA BACKUP CODES. if you have it enabled and have lost access to your 2FA device, you will have to have an admin remove your 2FA manually.
[19:04] <wxl> a related tangent: freeotp does not offer a backup option.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [btw a side shot,  …  - I checkedout the branch releases-0.14.x on the upstream cod …], You are redirecting the output of `git am` to the file `~/xdg-final.patch`. Before producing some output (if any), `git am` expects some input, so you can wait a long, long time. … You should redirect the content of the patch
 @aptghetto [You are redirecting the output of git am to the file ~/xdg-final.patch. Before p …], *face palms*
 `git checkout master; git diff releases-0.14.x > ../all.diff` is not really small. … There are a lot of unrelated changes like translations. There are some cmake changes, and a lot of C to C++1x related changes.
[19:15] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you should go play with this and see if we can't set it up on our github repos https://help.github.com/en/articles/displaying-a-sponsor-button-in-your-repository
 Maybe you can try to delete the unrelated hunks from 'all.diff' and try to apply and build it.
 And then find a C++ dev to review your patch
[19:21] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic 18.04.3] has been updated (20190805)
[19:21] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic 18.04.3] has been updated (20190805)
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you should go play with this and see if we can't set it up on o …], Seems to be pretty easy: `printf "%s\n%s\n%s\n" "patreon: lubuntu" "liberapay: lubuntu" "custom: ['https://teespring.com/stores/lubuntu', 'https://www.paypal.me/lubuntu']" > .github/FUNDING.yml`
 wxl: You checked this: phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1775 ?
[19:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1777
 wxl: I read your comment. I have few doubts: … 1. Is applying the patch to latest release necessary even if its already merged into master and latest master builds correctly? and aren't we applying the patch to latest release only when following packaging example ?
[19:49] <wxl> latest release != latest master
 yeah latest release is 0.14.1 I know but see this: … ```raman@Aspire-ES1-132:~/opt/lxqt-globalkeys$ uscan --download-current-version … uscan: Newest version of lxqt-globalkeys on remote site is 0.14.1, specified download version is 0.14.1 … gpgv: Signature made Monday 25 February 2019 01:38:53 AM IST … gpgv:                usi
[19:50] <wxl> second quilt introduces debian/ubuntu changes
[19:51] <wxl> if it works fine with the latest release, then the issue is those changes
 so I shouldn't apply patches under debian/patches ?
[19:53] <wxl> if we can determine that's the case, then we analyze the situation and figure out the appropriate solution
 okay. I will try that.
 which patch should I apply? one created by adding .patch at url's end or one created using git diff ?
[19:57] <wxl> they should be the same
[19:57] <wxl> if they're not , that's a problem
 @The_LoudSpeaker [so I shouldn't apply patches under debian/patches ?], This didn't work. patch didn't apply.
 now trying to patch to `releases-0.14.x` on github. That's the latest release.
[20:15] <RikMills> 18.04.3 RC ISOs to test --> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-August/004790.html
[20:15] <RikMills> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/405/builds
[20:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1779
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T59: fix keyboard shortcuts  3]   15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda …], wxl: ^
 also, should I ask upstream about when will the next release be available? If yes then how do I do that?
 @RikMills [https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/e0b23717e2f2efe503d5b56936831d4f2 …], wxl: any ideas?
[21:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1780
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: get rid of `$BROWSER`!] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#1781
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T53: get rid of `$BROWSER`!  3]   15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda …], wxl:
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, should I ask upstream about when will the next release be available? If ye …], just open an issue, I did that with nm-tray https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/issues/41
 @HMollerCl [just open an issue, I did that with nm-tray https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/i …], Ack. Thanks!
 created here: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/130
 also new 18.04.3 images are out
[22:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6344baeebfc9: Add application_chooser screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6344baeebfc9
[23:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: get rid of `$BROWSER`!] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#1782
[23:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1783
[23:19] <wxl> if anyone can try to confirm this and comment about their experience in 19.04, i'd appreciate it https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/ck31z4/no_windows_keyboard_shortcuts/evo5vwq/?st=jyz0ntdd&sh=d47bc2a6
 Which part would you like for me to confirm? The checkbox part or the upgrade part?
[23:23] <wxl> checkbox
[23:23] <wxl> more or less trying to eliminate ctrl-f4
[23:23] <wxl> seems to Just Work for me
 Yes, you need to double click. Weird.
[23:24] <wxl> i'm not really worried about that
 Oh, that is eoan.
[23:24] <wxl> but that you can disable it but then it's restored on reboot
 I will check that part too.
 Rebooted and still disabled.
[23:27] <wxl> could you comment there? you did do that in disco right?
 Eoan but I will check with Disco first.
[23:28] <wxl> yes please
[23:29] <wxl> supported only when dealing with support requests XD
 Yes. I know. I stopped myself. It was the closest machine I had.
[23:32] <wxl> i hear you
[23:32] <wxl> i almost do everything in it
 Same result in Disco. I will fire off a comment.
[23:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1785
[23:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T106: 18.04 SRUs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T106
[23:52] <wxl> sidebar in phab now has all our metatasks


[00:05] <jasoncwarner> TheMuso: acked
[05:25] <pitti> Bonjour
[05:55] <BigWhale> Good Morning ...
[06:46] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, comment vas-tu?
[07:05] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, mes muscles sont complètement endoloris après 3 jours où j'ai beaucoup marché pour la fête des lumières
[07:05] <pitti> hehe -- tu as marché dans la neige?
[07:05] <didrocks> il a neigé un peu, mais pas assez pour que ça tienne sur les couloirs :)
[07:07] <didrocks> et toi, tu as fais quoi pour le week-end?
[07:08] <pitti> didrocks: we went to the Christmas fair in Munich on Friday on my way back from the airport, that was very nice
[07:08] <didrocks> oh good ;)
[07:08] <pitti> weekend was rather quiet, we played badminton again + sauna, some house cleaning, etc.
[07:08] <pitti> it'll be our last "free" weekend for some time
[07:09] <didrocks> ah? busy ones ahead? :)
[07:09] <pitti> ma femme va aller à Suéde pour une semaine
[07:09] <didrocks> oh? conférence?
[07:09] <pitti> non, vacances
[07:10] <pitti> and after she returns, we'll go to Dresden for Christmas/new year and seeing lots of family and friends
[07:10]  * jalcine loves how the convo went from French to English and he still (slightly) understands
[07:10] <didrocks> excellent :)
[07:10] <didrocks> (this is both French and English ^) :)
[07:10] <pitti> jalcine: mon français est très mal, j'ai apprendre un peut français seullement
[07:11] <pitti> je parle franglemand!
[07:11]  * jalcine can't reply in French sadly
[07:11] <didrocks> :)
[07:11] <jalcine> haha!
[07:11] <jalcine> :D
[07:11] <pitti> (I am German, and learn French with an English program)
[07:11] <jalcine> It looks good to me, but I speak Haitian Creole largely
[07:11] <jalcine> French looks very similar and I understand it like 70% of the time
[07:14] <pitti> jalcine: wow, how did a Latin based language make it all the way to Haiti?
[07:14] <pitti> through colonization, I guess, hardly a "native" one?
[07:14] <jalcine> Well, I live in New York now lol
[07:14] <jalcine> and Creole is based heavily on French so yeah, colonization was a big factor
[07:27] <jibel> good morning
[07:32] <didrocks> hey jibel! bon week-end?
[07:33] <jibel> salut didrocks, we calme. Ma fille ainée n'était pas très bien, on n'a donc pas fait grand-chose
[07:33] <jibel> didrocks, et toi ?
[07:34] <didrocks> jibel: tout cassé! muscles endoloris car on a beaucoup marché les 3 soirs de la fête des lumières
[09:05] <Laney> hey
[09:11] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:12] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:12] <Laney> considering how it feels to be back from holiday ;-)
[09:13] <Laney> how's it going pitti?
[09:13] <pitti> Laney: oh, where were you?
[09:13] <Laney> Lake District
[09:13] <pitti> Laney: quite fine! we had a great error db sprint last week in the office
[09:13] <Laney> I posted some pics on G+
[09:13] <Laney> oh yeah, I remember hearing about that! Did it achieve good results?
[09:15] <pitti> yes, it did indeed; ev will write a summary about it soon
[09:16] <Laney> great
[09:44] <bdrung> does ubuntu-archive have an IRC channel?
[09:45] <Laney> no, use -release
[09:45] <bdrung> k, thx
[10:08] <seb128> Laney, pitti, desktopers: hey, how are you?
[10:09] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[10:09] <pitti> I'm great, thanks!
[10:09] <seb128> pitti, how was your trip back? no snow issue?
[10:09] <pitti> seb128: just 40 mins delay, no biggie
[10:09] <pitti> seb128: my wife met me in Munich main station, and we went to the Christmas fair, they have a nice one in Munich
[10:10] <seb128> pitti, nice!
[10:11] <Laney> yeah, getting back into it ;-)
[11:34] <didrocks> ok, the daily .po* file generation in the webapp stack that I was blocking manually from now for daily landing is automatically ignored now :)
[12:04] <Sweetshark> seb128: _rene_ reported multiple problems with his new packages, so I wont prepare a upload for raring just yet, but do a release on the prereleases-ppa.
[12:05] <Sweetshark> seb128: I still hope to have a upload by the end of the week, as that would allow a default raring install to take part in http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/12/08/the-libreoffice-community-organises-a-6-day-test-marathon-to-help-preparing-the-new-4-0-version-of-libreoffice/
[12:32] <Sweetshark> seb128: also on the MIRs for reportbuilder have met resistance on bug 1034560. Esp. the additional deps would open a can of worms. I will consider building LO with internal jfreereport as that removes a lot of the deps. does that sound sane?
[12:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1034560 in libfonts-java (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libloader-java, libformula-java, librepository-java, libfonts-java, libserializer-java " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034560
[12:55] <seb128> Sweetshark, ok for end of week
[12:55] <seb128> Sweetshark, building with the copy ... seems fine to me, not ideal but better than the alternatuve
[12:56] <Sweetshark> seb128: k, I will give it a try an see if it pops up other surprises..
[13:15] <didrocks> seb128: any objection to merge ubuntu-artwork into ubuntu-settings? (at least for the gsettings overrides)
[13:15]  * mpt wonders what PolicyKit authentication looks like for someone who has no password
[13:16] <didrocks> I don't know about the distributor logo, we can maybe move it to ubuntu-wallpapers providing its ubuntu-artwork binary package
[13:19] <BigWhale> Greetings... so, is there any decent way to deal with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-distutils-extra/+bug/692142
[13:19] <BigWhale> ?
[13:19] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 692142 in python-distutils-extra "build_icons only installs icons to share/icons/hicolor" [Undecided,New]
[13:30] <seb128> didrocks, no objection
[13:30] <didrocks> thanks seb128 :) I'll move that then, yeah for cleaning \o/
[13:31] <seb128> didrocks, thanks ;-)
[13:31] <didrocks> yw!
[14:17] <Laney> oh cool beans, new webkit doesn't need hax to make any more
[14:19] <seb128> Laney, the debian guys fixed it ;-)
[14:20] <Laney> too kind of them :P
[14:41] <Laney> hum, my compose key stopped working
[14:42] <Laney> means i can't type my gpg passphrase
[14:43] <seb128> Laney, use gucharmap and copy the char? ;-)
[14:46] <Laney> bah!
[14:48] <soren_> Laney: Use unicode input?
[14:48] <seb128> or fix compose... ;-)
[14:48] <Laney> don't have that either
[14:48] <soren_> Laney: How do you not have unicode input?
[14:49] <seb128> Laney, ctrl-shift-u
[14:49] <Laney> yeah, it does nothing
[14:49] <seb128> hum, it should display a u with underscore and let you type your numbe
[14:49] <seb128> r
[14:49] <seb128> Laney, right click, input method ... which one is selected?
[14:50] <Laney> it works on this here quantal machine: ô
[14:50] <seb128> Laney, select "simple"?
[14:50] <Laney> System (X Input Method)
[14:50] <Laney> yeah simple works
[14:50] <Laney> GTK_IM_MODULE is set to xim, guess that is the same thing
[14:50] <Laney> where does that come from?
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, could be the im-switch to im-config change
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, try asking GunnarHj
[14:52] <seb128> Laney, one issue is that /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80im-switch should be cleared and is not, not sure if that can create your issue
[14:53]  * Laney nods
[14:53] <Laney> let me try purging im-switch
[14:54] <Laney> sadly not
[14:55] <Laney> ah, ibus, it'll be that
[15:01] <Laney> nope - it is im-config
[15:04] <cyphermox> seb128:  Laney: that change got reverted friday
[15:04] <cyphermox> im-switch vs. im-config
[15:04] <Laney> it got put back
[15:04] <cyphermox> oh ok ;)
[15:04] <Laney> I think I must have had a stray .xinputrc
[15:06] <Laney> but I would have overwritten it by running im-config so can't know for sure :(
[15:06] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, what Laney said, infinity found the old approved MIR from oneiric time
[15:06] <cyphermox> sure, sorry
[15:06] <cyphermox> hey ;) how are you?
[15:06] <seb128> good, how are you?
[15:46] <blami> hi, is the System Settings panel monolithic or it has some plugin architecture so other installed packages can drop its own settings there?
[15:52] <mpt> blami, the former
[15:54] <blami> mpt: is that intentional or just same as upstream?
[15:55] <mpt> blami, https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00096.html
[15:57] <blami> mpt: ... :( I think it is a good idea to have it modular. It simplifies users life a lot when all various settings can be found in single place
[15:57] <mpt> blami, there are external packages that provide panels, but afaik, g-c-c needs to know about them. One of those is activity-log-manager, which provides the "Privacy" panel.
[15:57] <mpt> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/activity-log-manager
[15:57] <Laney> We revert that change
[15:58] <mpt> blami, jbicha is probably a good person to ask about this. :-) What I'm telling you may be out of date.
[16:01] <Laney> grep Settings-Panel /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[16:03] <blami> Laney: awesome, thanks
[16:04] <blami> Laney: so just putting similar line as those have will make application launcher appear in settings panel?
[16:05] <Laney> Should do - copy the ubuntuone-installer.desktop and mess around with it to test
[16:06] <blami> Laney: thanks
[16:06] <Laney> np
[16:07] <kenvandine> Laney, can you look at bug 1087669
[16:07] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1087669 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Audio Call fails due to linking both gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087669
[16:07] <kenvandine> sounds like it is from the gst-1.0 transition
[16:07] <kenvandine> so probably will get fixed as you finish that up
[16:07] <Laney> kenvandine: that's likely; IIRC empathy is held back due to farstream
[16:08] <Laney> which is the part that's waiting for Kubuntu
[16:08] <kenvandine> ok, thx
[16:09] <Laney> people can use the PPA in the meantime
[16:15]  * Laney replied
[16:18] <desrt> attente: update?
[16:19] <kenvandine> Laney, thx
[16:19] <Laney> no problemo
[16:19] <desrt> attente: i've noticed that you're doing some scary-looking stuff with references
[16:19] <attente> desrt: trying to figure out the xprop/GtkApplication problem
[16:20] <desrt> ah.  nice.
[16:21] <attente> not that i'm closed to advice...
[16:23] <attente> desrt: what's the problem with the references?
[16:23] <desrt> attente: i think you can probably safely assume that either a menubar exists as a GMenuModel or as a GtkMenu
[16:23] <desrt> not both
[16:23] <desrt> so if you see that the X property for the menubar is already set to something, just disable your code for that window?
[16:23] <desrt> the question of which actiongroup to use is a bit more interesting, of course
[16:24] <attente> so basically don't do anything if it's already done?
[16:24] <desrt> you could just use the GActionMap interface on the GtkApplicationWindow to add to the existing actiongroup
[16:24] <desrt> and not worry about publishing your own
[16:26] <attente> um. why do i need to use the existing actiongroup if they're already using GMenuModel?
[16:27] <desrt> so first thing first: all GtkApplicationWindow instances are action groups
[16:27] <desrt> and you should never override them
[16:27] <desrt> ie: rule #1: if you have a GtkApplicationWindow then do not publish your own actions
[16:28] <attente> ok
[16:29] <desrt> the reason there is because lots of things can hit those actions
[16:29] <attente> but when would i ever need to publish actions without menus?
[16:29] <desrt> the most obvious example is an app menu
[16:29] <desrt> there are a few apps out there that are using GMenuModel for the app menu but still GtkMenu for menubars
[16:30] <desrt> and of course the app menu may hit actions on the window...
[16:30] <desrt> so you need to add to the group rather than replacing it outright
[16:34] <attente> hmm
[16:34] <mdeslaur> wow, is nautilus in raring ever confusing
[16:34] <mdeslaur> what's with the arbitrary split of what's in the menu vs. what's in the gear button
[16:37] <seb128> mdeslaur, welcome to gnome-shell design, the most common actions are supposed to be in the menu, the less common ones in the gear menu
[16:37] <seb128> mdeslaur, we have a workitem to restore traditional menus for nautilus this cycle for unity
[16:38] <mdeslaur> seb128: oh, thank $DEITY
[16:38] <desrt> seb128: not quite right
[16:38] <desrt> app menu gets 'global' actions
[16:38] <desrt> gear menu gets actions affecting that one window
[16:39] <mdeslaur> desrt: how is a user supposed to know what that means?
[16:39] <desrt> mdeslaur: it's a pretty natural idea...
[16:39] <mdeslaur> desrt: i disagree
[16:39] <seb128> desrt, the difference is not that obvious
[16:39] <desrt> do i want to do something with nautilus in general or with the directory that i'm currently viewing?
[16:39] <seb128> desrt, like "enter location" which opens an url bar in the win is in the shell menu
[16:40] <desrt> ya... that's a bit failish
[16:40] <desrt> i'd expect a dialog to pop up for that
[16:40] <mdeslaur> desrt: how do I know that creating a folder in my home directory isn't in general? that doesn't really apply to a single window, etc.
[16:40] <mdeslaur> it's pretty confusing if you ask me
[16:40] <desrt> mdeslaur: it applies to the current location
[16:40] <desrt> seb's example is an annoying one, though
[16:40] <seb128> "new tab" vs "enter location"
[16:41] <seb128> they are both similar actions and yet at different places
[16:41] <mdeslaur> desrt: I don't think regular users are able to understand that concept. I'm sorry.
[16:41] <mdeslaur> sounds like something that only makes sense to someone technical
[16:42] <seb128> desrt, it's a bit buggy, like "undo" is in the by-win menu but it undo actions from any context
[16:42] <desrt> there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything here
[16:42] <seb128> desrt, so the undo list is for the app but yet it's not in the shell menu...
[16:42] <desrt> http://imgur.com/0ymHm
[16:42] <larsu> desrt, hi, aren't you supposed to be on vacation?
[16:42] <mdeslaur> well, having a reasonable explanation doesn't mean it's usable.
[16:43] <mdeslaur> I believe some user testing of this concept is in order
[16:43] <desrt> larsu: didn't get it cleared :(
[16:43] <larsu> mdeslaur, what makes you believe that there wasn't any user testing?
[16:43] <larsu> desrt, ugh, sorry
[16:44] <mdeslaur> larsu: because even I can't grasp the concept, or make an informed decision on where stuff should be...but if it's been user tested with Ubuntu's target audience, then I guess it's ok
[16:45] <seb128> mdeslaur, I doubt it got any "Ubuntu's target audience" testing and as said we decided to keep using normal menus for Ubuntu
[16:47] <mdeslaur> ok
[16:49] <desrt> okay.  i'm officially on vacation now :p
[16:49] <desrt> somehow i didn't get the memo...
[16:50] <larsu> mdeslaur, right. I don't know whether it's been tested or not, I just dislike these general stabs towards gnome -- as if they aren't thinking about what they are doing
[16:50] <larsu> mdeslaur, I very much agree with you on nautilus' menus, though :)
[16:50] <larsu> desrt, awesome, enjoy!
[16:50] <Laney> mterry: thanks for fixing the music lens landing
[16:51] <Laney> I'm actually back now but somehow thought it got done :P
[16:54] <Laney> that awkward moment where you stare at a watch file for 5 minutes before seeing that you wrote 'downloads' instead of 'releases'
[17:03] <mterry> Laney, oh ok
[17:03] <mterry> Laney, :)
[17:03] <Laney> so you shouldn't bother with changelogs for these things?
[17:04] <Laney> debian changelogs
[17:13] <Sweetshark> libreoffice-4.0~beta1 for raring uploaded for testbuilding btw.
[17:17] <GunnarHj> seb128: Hi Sebastien!
[17:17] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, how are you?
[17:18] <seb128> Sweetshark, great, let me know how the testing goes
[17:18] <GunnarHj> seb128: Fine, hope you are as well.
[17:18] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[17:19] <GunnarHj> seb128: Do you have time to finalise bug 1076975? The im-config MP needs to be merged, and there is a tiny additional l-s MP.
[17:19] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1076975 in im-config (Ubuntu) "Please port input method function to use im-config" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076975
[17:19] <seb128> GunnarHj, let me check that
[17:23] <Laney> GunnarHj: you bumped im-config to 0.19ubuntu1 but that doesn't exist
[17:24] <GunnarHj> Laney: It will soon, if seb128 merge it. ;-)
[17:25] <Laney> In any event you should add a ~ to the end, so that backports satisfy the dep
[17:27] <GunnarHj> Laney: Do you mean possible backports of im-config 0.19ubuntu1?
[17:27] <Laney> right
[17:28] <GunnarHj> Laney: Ok. seb128 ^
[17:28] <seb128> GunnarHj, the quilt changes are wrong, I'm fixing and uploading
[17:29] <seb128> GunnarHj, the source is format v3 so it handles quilt without need to build-depends on it or use --with quilt
[17:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok. Did you see Laney's comment on the bump in l-s?
[17:30] <seb128> GunnarHj, yes, I'm starting with im-config
[17:30] <seb128> will get to l-s in a minute ;-)
[17:30] <Laney> just push another rev to the branch, should be fine
[17:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok.
[17:31] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm not sure the postinst change is right...
[17:32] <GunnarHj> seb128: In that case you question the whole postinst code, not just the change, right?
[17:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm failing to understand why it's there for
[17:32] <seb128> it deletes a file shipped by the package in the configure) case
[17:33] <seb128> that seems it would be about right if the package stopped shipping that file, but what's the point to ship something to delete it in the postinst?
[17:33] <GunnarHj> seb128: It's there for the same purpose as my previous postinst file in l-s, i.e. to remove 80im-switch.
[17:33] <seb128> well, you want to remove it when im-config is uninstalled right?
[17:33]  * didrocks waves good evening
[17:33] <seb128> didrocks, bye
[17:33] <didrocks> seb128: have a nice one :)
[17:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: No... It needs to be there for quite a while.
[17:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, well, if you remove it in the postinst it's not going to be there even if the package is installed...
[17:34] <micahg> Laney: welcome back, would you mind verifying your webkit SRU at some point this week?  I think I might end up needing to SRU 1.10.1 after all
[17:35] <seb128> Laney, do you understand the im-config's postinst and what it's trying to do?
[17:35] <Laney> seb128: no I haven't looked, just the diff
[17:35] <GunnarHj> seb128: It's two different packages. 80im-switch is a left-over from im-switch
[17:35] <seb128> shrug
[17:35] <Laney> I thought that packages weren't allowed to monkey with conffiles of other packages
[17:35] <Laney> what's the problem with it?
[17:35] <seb128> GunnarHj, Laney: sorry I got confused between im-config and switch
[17:36] <seb128> that looks wrong to rm the conffile from another package
[17:36] <Laney> micahg: I was hop
[17:36] <Laney> ing ogra would look at it
[17:36] <Laney> but I will if he doesn't
[17:36] <Laney> brb
[17:36] <micahg> thanks
[17:36] <seb128> but well it's not really a conffile and Debian is doing it so I think I will wave my hands and merge the md5 addition
[17:36] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, that's what you said about my proposed postinst file too.
[17:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: Great. Think it has to be done that way.
[17:38] <seb128> GunnarHj, it's the wrong way to do it but I don't care enough to change it ;-)
[17:39] <seb128> im-switch should clean its conffile when being uninstalled
[17:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: That wouldn't have been easy to fix; see my comment on the bug.
[17:41] <GunnarHj> seb128: I don't think it's a co-incidence that Osamu did it that way. He even defended it in a Debian bug.
[17:42] <seb128> GunnarHj, ok, I see, thanks for the details
[17:44] <Laney> micahg: I'm uploading .2 to raring probably tomorrow morning FYI
[17:44] <Laney> it has some CVE fixes too, didn't check if we are affected
[17:44] <micahg> Laney: oh, it was released, that's even better :)
[17:45] <Laney> then we can revert make \o/
[17:45] <micahg> Laney: thanks, that'll save me the trouble, so, if someone can get the quantal SRU verified in the next 24 hours, I"ll include it in the security update for quantal
[17:45] <micahg> otherwise, I'll have to revert it
[17:45] <Laney> mmm
[18:20] <micahg> Laney: ogra_ : any chance of the webkit SRU being verified tonight, I'd like to get it uploaded later today (my time) so I can get it into -proposed tomorrow
[18:29] <Sweetshark> lol: https://lists.launchpad.net/libreoffice/msg00020.html
[18:30] <Sweetshark> launchpad managed to get access to a port 25 somewhere, take cover!
[18:30] <xnox> micahg: do you have a bug number?
[18:40] <Laney> micahg: not really tonight
[18:40] <Laney> I'm in the middle of getting ready to go out to a Christmas meal
[18:42] <Laney> not that my suit is anywhere to be found
[18:42] <Laney> xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066046
[18:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1066046 in pvr-omap4 (Ubuntu Quantal) "pvr driver crashes when ubiquity-slideshow starts" [High,Confirmed]
[18:42] <Laney> I posted the test case in the description there
[18:48]  * Laney wonders how one can lose an entire suit
[19:18] <GunnarHj> seb128: You surprised me by saying that quilt isn't needed in im-config, but I saw that you left it there, after all.
[19:19] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks for helping with those somewhat tricky uploads!
[19:29] <seb128> GunnarHj, yeah, sorry about that, I'm used to source version 3 (quilt), that one was (native) which doesn't behave the same way
[19:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: Right, that's what I thought.
[19:41] <Sweetshark> yeeha, now that the baseline is set and the ccache is primed (and I disabled xz-compression for packages), buildtime for the libreoffice package is down to 49 minutes again.
[19:42] <Sweetshark> (on the trusty old notebook)
[20:01] <chrisccoulson> well, some vacation this is turning out to be!
[20:18] <bryce> chrisccoulson?
[20:19] <chrisccoulson> bryce, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/125257657/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.firefox-trunk_20.0~a1~hg20121208r115330-0ubuntu1~umd1~lucid_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:19] <chrisccoulson> and i'm ill ;)
[20:19] <chrisccoulson> i think i should just accept that i can never do vacation ;)
[20:19] <bryce> chrisccoulson, aw I hate it when that happens
[20:20] <chrisccoulson> yeah, on the first day too :(
[20:21] <bryce> chrisccoulson, I have vacation coming up in a couple days, so pardon if I scoot away from you a bit...  ;-)
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> heh, no worries ;)
[20:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if it's any conciliation, 20 is the last Firefox release for lucid :)
[20:46] <Sweetshark> pitti: can I add libreoffice to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests#run_upstream_test_suite_against_system_installed_packages ? I would give a helping had there too ...
[20:48] <pitti> Sweetshark: bien sûr!
[20:48] <pitti> Sweetshark: want to hack on that on Thursday?
[20:48]  * pitti back in 12 mins for TB meeting
[20:50] <Sweetshark> pitti: well, I already hacked a bit for that, e.g. at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/2803189/+listing-archive-extra
[20:54] <Sweetshark> pitti: there is already a libreoffice-subsequentcheckbase package which contains lots of the testing code. I was thinking maybe I could write a blogpost outlining how to use that and hoped for some volunteer to finish it off, sparing me to dig into the details of the auto-pkg-test boilerplate and redtape. ;)
[20:57] <micahg> xnox: any chance you feel like verifying the webkit SRU?
[21:01] <xnox> micahg: i am installing quantal. it is taking time.
[21:02] <xnox> micahg: you will have it verified in ~40minutes
[21:02] <micahg> xnox: ah, ok, sorry, must have missed what you said before
[21:02] <micahg> xnox: oh, doesn't have to be that fast, next few hours would be great though, thanks
[21:02] <xnox> micahg: well I did mention on #release that i will be popping out. Now I am back =)
[21:02] <xnox> and doing it
[21:03] <xnox> micahg: is the new webkit built yet?
[21:03] <micahg> xnox: which new one>
[21:03] <ricotz> seb128, hi :), do you know if there are harfbuzz packages?
[21:04] <seb128> ricotz, hey, not that I know
[21:04] <xnox> micahg: do you just want webkit out the door in general, or do you have a new round of sru/security for webkit out of the door soonish?
[21:04] <micahg> ricotz: I just saw an upload to experimental
[21:04] <ricotz> seb128, hmm, i see, if there is still the plan to get gtk+3.0 update then it needs pango 1.32.4 from now on :\
[21:04] <micahg> xnox: I want the SRU verified so I can build a security update that'll go to proposed sometime tomrrow
[21:04] <ricotz> micahg, oh, that would be nice
[21:05] <xnox> micahg: i see.
[21:05] <seb128> ricotz, no plan to get the gtk update
[21:06] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, i meant "option" as maybe glib
[21:06] <ricotz> micahg, ah found it :)
[21:08] <seb128> ricotz, you are welcome to package harfbuzz if you are interested in the gtk update ;-)
[21:09] <seb128> ricotz, we will update, if not this cycle next one
[21:09] <ricotz> seb128, there is a harfbuzz package in debian incoming :)
[21:09] <seb128> cool
[21:09] <seb128> it might get out of there if debian releases one day
[21:10] <ricotz> seb128, this could/should be synced to raring
[21:11] <seb128> ricotz, thanks
[21:51] <jbicha> micahg: do you think we'll build webkit2 for raring?
[21:51] <micahg> jbicha: doubtful, unless we need it for something
[21:58] <xnox> micahg: verfied. Now only the publishing is required =)
[21:58] <micahg> xnox: thanks, I just needed it verified, so I can move forward with my own uploads (it'll be ~15-20 hrs before I can copy to proposed anyways)
[22:05] <micahg> jbicha: do you have a specific need for the webkit 2 packages?
[22:06] <micahg> FWIW, they're not enabled in debian/experimental either
[22:07] <jbicha> micahg: no, not for GNOME 3.6, supposedly webkit2 will be usable in Epiphany 3.8
[22:30] <Sweetshark> Shall we play a game?
[22:30] <Sweetshark> I propose the game "Who has the biggest stripped shared object in one of his/her packages?"
[22:30]  * micahg bets on qengho
[22:30] <qengho> Hah.
[22:31]  * qengho always has a bigger one.
[22:34] <Sweetshark> qengho: how big?
[22:35] <Sweetshark> (stripped amd64 lib)
[22:35] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: chromium? :P
[22:36] <micahg> >70MB
[22:37]  * micahg guesses Firefox would come in second
[22:38] <micahg> actually, Thunderbird...then Firefox
[22:40] <Sweetshark> ls -lh debian/libreoffice-core/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so
[22:40] <Sweetshark> -rw-r--r-- 1 bjoern users 49M Dec 10 20:27 debian/libreoffice-core/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so
[22:41] <Sweetshark> unstripped
[22:41] <Sweetshark> ls -lh solver/unxlngx6.pro/lib/libmergedlo.so
[22:41] <Sweetshark> -rwxr-xr-x 2 bjoern users 664M Dec 10 19:56 solver/unxlngx6.pro/lib/libmergedlo.so
[22:42] <micahg> ok, that's #2 for the moment then :)
[22:42] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: that's not how you pick up someone from the gender of your choice!
[22:42]  * micahg is curious if there's anything between that and Chromium or larger...
[22:42] <mlankhorst> well chromium's static libs are massive
[22:43] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: I know. from experience.
[22:45] <Sweetshark> micahg: and the next 4 runner-ups in libreoffice are also all over 100MB unstripped.
[22:45] <micahg> stable Firefox is 36MB stripped and Thunderbird is 38MB, not sure about unstripped, but I think >200M
[22:46] <Sweetshark> micahg: Merging them in would make LibreOffice even more monolithic tough.
[22:46] <mlankhorst> you can do shared chromium builds..
[22:47] <micahg> mlankhorst: not in a stable release reliably :)
[22:47] <micahg> or without great effort
[22:47] <micahg> and we still use quite a few distro components...
[22:48] <Sweetshark> 254M libsclo.so (Calc), 247M libswlo.so (Writer), 119M libsdlo.so (Draw), 107M libooxlo.so (MS Office 2007 import)
[22:48] <mlankhorst> but looks like that's less in size, still
[23:11] <Sweetshark> hmmm, one could for example merge all the writer libraries too -- that would make one ~418MB unstripped so. but thats not worth it, I guess. You dont _want_ to load e.g. wordperfect filters everytime you use writer. the separation between libswlo.so  and libswuilo.so is pretty useless though.


[00:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL35c990c1fc69:  add useage for LXQt configuration center] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL35c990c1fc69
[00:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc9dcd28d264e: Add cursor theme to appearance] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc9dcd28d264e
[00:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6b068293033a: Add open in terminal and search for files for pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6b068293033a
[00:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALabe3e6c2d49d: Add undo/redo to Featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALabe3e6c2d49d
[01:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdd2aa52d1886: Add how to delete a slide in loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdd2aa52d1886
 @tsimonq2 I might get a Chromebook. Do you know if you can easily install 8 gig ram on it and if it runs Lubuntu easily?
[03:06] <docEbrown> Hey all, I saw on mastadon that you are looking for contributors from Australia.  I like in Sydney and am happy to help where I can.
[03:47] <docEbrown> *I live in Sydney
[04:43] <lynorian> hello docEbrown what do you want to help with
[04:51] <docEbrown> hey, I dont really mind to be honest.  I have experience in C++, Python but an happy to write documentation etc whatever is of need really
[04:56] <lynorian> I have been mostly writing the documentation really have you had a look at the manual yet?
[04:59] <docEbrown> not yet, but I'll get onto it. I literally saw the request on mastadon, clicked the link which sent me to the IRC.
[05:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: Lugito should do diffs] doc-E-brown (Ben Johnston) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88#2996
[14:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: Lugito should do diffs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88#2997
 Dailies are up!
 Go get 'em!
 https://lubuntu.me/downloads
[18:08] <apt-ghetto> maybe it is better to move the 19.04 download link at the end of the page?
[18:17] <wxl> @tsimonq2: this is an interesting thing i just stumbled across https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1011
 dang, I thought you people already knew about that
 What's the point?
 @tsimonq2 [What's the point?], I'd say it makes a difference for the "maybe we'll port Openbox to Wayland" thing -  might be hard to get help from the LXQt devs if many of them don't even use Openbox anymore.
 https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1058067593544773632?s=19
 @marneu [I'd say it makes a difference for the "maybe we'll port Openbox to Wayland" thin …], I thought wxl already knew about this. I'm banking on the fact that LXQt will be nowhere near finished to using KWin-specific code for Wayland and finishing the port before we finish porting Openbox.
 Thus making us the first LXQt distro with Wayland.
 Sounds like a plan. It appears you're way ahead of us, yet again :D
 Me, I'm probably going to use Sway, though.
 it's way cooler >; ]
 #wmpuns
[19:10] <lynorian> I honestly like being able to not have desktop effects as I find them annoying
 @lynorian [<lynorian> I honestly like being able to not have desktop effects as I find them …], +1
 Except some transparencies in a dock
[19:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: This is the most important part, make it count!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3016
[19:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3017
[19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] Wolfenprey (Tony Cuesta Escobar) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3019
[19:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T153: Modernize the release upgrade process?] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T153
[19:58] <wxl> @tsimonq2: we doing regular team meetings still? if so, in 1hr
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: we doing regular team meetings still? if so, in 1hr], Sure
 Let's do it
[20:00] <wxl> might want to send out notifications or whatever
 @Wolfenprey @HMollerCl @kc2bez @marneu @TheWendyPower
 Who am I forgetting?
[20:01] <wxl> i meant to the wider public but ok XD
 Oh @Wafficus
 wxl: I *am* the wider public.
 XD
 Nah, you're now our Reddit Masochist XD
 dammit!
 Sorry, I can't today. I'm in the country with very bad signal. Today is free day here
 I will be in the workplace, so...
 @HMollerCl [Sorry, I can't today. I'm in the country with very bad signal. Today is free day …], No worries, have fun :)
 yeah, @HMollerCl have fun... ME NOT.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/YAHchXLZ/file_4543.png
 Is the meeting at 5 pm?
 @Wafficus [Is the meeting at 5 pm?], Yeah, your time
[20:45] <wxl> in some time zone yes XD
 Thanks
 Sweet I'll try to answer what I can during my audits cause I work during 6pm
[20:45] <wxl> theoretically it's at ANY time... in some time zone
 Ping me when I'm up
 In Walter's time zone it's like 5 AM right? It's sooo far behind XD
[21:12] <lynorian> is it meeting time?
[21:12] <kc2bez> or a little past ;)
[21:12] <wxl> yep. lead us @tsimonq2
 Haii
 Ok
 Sec
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Meeting time!
[21:23] <tsimonq2> $ echo $(shuf -e tsimonq2 wxl @Wafficus lynorian kc2bez @Wolfenprey @marneu)
[21:24] <tsimonq2> lynorian wxl @Wafficus tsimonq2 @marneu kc2bez @Wolfenprey
[21:24] <tsimonq2> lynorian: You're up.
[21:24] <tsimonq2> How's the manual coming?
[21:24] <lynorian> I have been writing the manual a lot more I have added way more screenshots last week added code directives for things to be run in the command line
[21:24] <lynorian> I also have been working on libreoffice writer calc and impress
[21:25] <lynorian> while also working on the prefrences
[21:25] <lynorian> I have had some thankful other contributions on chapter 1 in good shape and other helping with appendix D for upgrading
[21:25] <lynorian> I think I have more than half of all screenshots done
[21:26] <tsimonq2> \o/
[21:26] <lynorian> some chapters still need to be fleshed out for useage
[21:26] <lynorian> also contributing guide is pretty much up to date
[21:27] <wxl> fantastic
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Sweet.
[21:27] <wxl> and you've been picking stuff off the mailing list, too, which is nice
[21:27] <tsimonq2> And #lubuntu
[21:27] <tsimonq2> And like, everywhere else :)
[21:27] <wxl> yep
[21:28] <lynorian> yeah pay attention to user questions and make sure the manual answers them
[21:28] <tsimonq2> Can I go next? Dinner is soonish
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Of course, when lynorian is done :)
[21:29] <lynorian> I am done now
[21:29] <tsimonq2> *cough*
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Fun Discoey things.
[21:29] <tsimonq2> My goal in the next week is the work on getting our infrastructure all good to go for the Disco thing. This'll involve tackling https://phab.lubuntu.me/T150 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T93
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Set up Disco Dingo branches: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T150
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Clean up server side branch handling: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T93
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Otherwise I want to tinker with OEM stuff to get Pi images working: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] Configure OEM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Plus, https://phab.lubuntu.me/T125 seems cool.
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] The return of Desktop icons: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T125
[21:30] <tsimonq2> I pushed this out: https://lubuntu.me/disco-start/ and @Wolfenprey has been doing great work with doing Spanish tweets as well as English.
[21:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL97d4cd776cc6: Add alternatives configurator stub with version and how to launch] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL97d4cd776cc6
[21:30] <tsimonq2> I want to get the ball rolling on all of that in the next week or so.
[21:30] <tsimonq2> So, yeah, any questions? :)
[21:31] <wxl> nope
[21:31] <kc2bez> I'm good.
 If you ever need help testing Pi images, I've got one lying around that wants to get some use.
[21:31] <kc2bez> ^same
[21:32] <wxl> i've got some too
 Cool
[21:33] <lynorian> I actually don't have a pi oddly enough
[21:33] <wxl> who's next?
[21:34] <kc2bez> I'll go
 I'm here
[21:34] <kc2bez> Excellent work lynorian on the manual
[21:35] <kc2bez> I have been trying to keep up with proofing
[21:35] <kc2bez> I sent one small edi
[21:35] <kc2bez> t
[21:36] <lynorian> kc2bez: thanks for that
[21:36] <wxl> proofing is huge
[21:36] <wxl> i mean content is huge, too
[21:36] <kc2bez> YW I will keep plugging away, running through it.
[21:36] <wxl> you two together are just awesome :)
[21:37] <kc2bez> I did some testing on EFI and encryption, didn't really figure our anything that you didn't alredy know wxl
[21:38] <kc2bez> I will pick your brain later
[21:38] <wxl> okie dokie
[21:38] <kc2bez> That is it from me.
[21:38] <wxl> fwiw @tsimonq2's the assignee on ultimately resolving that bug
 I'm here now. Sorry that I'm late.
[21:39] <wxl> i know next to nothing except that it doesn't work and i kind of don't know where to start. the bootloader and all that is a bit of a mystery, especially in the age of efi.
[21:39] <kc2bez> thanks wxl
[21:39] <wxl> any other takers for next spot?
 I'll go next
[21:39] <wxl> go for it
 So I've been working on the welcome center and provided the initial commit. It works with QMake but I tried adapting it to CMake using a Stack Overflow ex.
 The problem is that i don't think it works with that revision
 I might scrap it and just redo it again since I got CMake working on my laptop.
 I need someone to check that code tbh.
[21:41] <wxl> you're waiting on @tsimonq2 for that no?
 Yes but he's busy with school
 Not his fault tbh
[21:42] <wxl> he's probably waiting on you to fix it for CMake XD
 Otherwise I would like to get the team's opinion to maybe apply principles from six sigma and lean to our work flow
 True
[21:43] <wxl> i think with that it might be more appropriate to make some specific proposals
 I'm trying to learn qt and c++ with stroustrups book on c++ and void realm tutorials as well.
 I'm trying to learn every day after work though I might have to apply for related tech jobs cause my one coworker is leaving at work.
 Anyway that's my bit just wanted to give my update
[21:44] <wxl> sounds good. keep at it. you're doing fantastic.
 I'll definitely think about specific workflows that could be more lean
 Thanks
[21:45] <wxl> neexxt?
 I'll go.
 We have had a lot of sickness in our house the last 3 weeks. So progress has been very slow. I created a to-do/wish list of tasks for myself. I did a poll of some distro hoppers to see what they look for in a Welcome center and have started the on the mockup for the Welcome Center and the Lubuntu-Devel site.
 Sweet I'd love to see that Wendy  when you get the chance
 Sounds awesome
[21:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf87d9bc41f9: Add users and groups screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf87d9bc41f9
[21:47] <wxl> can you link to that?
 I hop to have it done this week. It will help to guide the code, which I want to help with as well.
 Now that I feel more comfortable with qt creator we can make your vision a reality and make it look pretty with your button design work.
 @wxl link to what? the Welcome Mockup?
 Sounds good Wendy. Check out the void realms qt c++ tutorials btw. It's been more solidifying to me than qt's beginner guide docs
 Thanks @Wafficus
[21:50] <wxl> yes wendy
 I don't have the mockup on the internet anywhere. Howver I  can save what I have to a jpg file and shae it.
 That'd be great.
[21:52] <wxl> yeah i want to see that! :)
 You can make an images folder called "Mockups Folder" on the R/Welcome Center distro
 YEs I can do that!
[21:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154
[21:55] <wxl> anything else?
 This user is using Alt-3 and Alt-4 for one-handed window tiling. If you're already changing the defaults, might as well consider this!
 Fwd from white_magic: <white_magic> marneu: mostly these: https://pastebin.com/q7EfLA4a
 (this is re: the new phab task)
[21:57] <lynorian> not sure if any of our applicatoins use alt 3 or alt 4
 It might lead to some weirdness in webbrowser.
[21:58] <wxl> yeah well i'm not redefining EVERYTHING
[21:58] <wxl> renamed: Fix shortcuts related to Super key
 yeah that would be way too much if it really conflicts
[21:58] <wxl> anyways ok i'm gonna go
[21:59] <wxl> I've been generally taking my Release Manager-required post-release break
[21:59] <wxl> been busy with the kid, too
[21:59] <wxl> added some tasks, found some new bugs, made a catch-all for 18.10 stuff that needs to be cleaned up
[22:00] <wxl> answered a bunch of questions on the mailing list and in #lubuntu
[22:01] <wxl> filed a bug about the confusing view settings in pcmanfm-qt which was kind of shot down to some degree so any comments there might go a long way https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/799
[22:01] <wxl> now that halloweeen is over i'll have more time and can get started on those 18.10 things
[22:02] <wxl> but hey if anyone is bored, they can start with the trojitá sru
[22:02] <wxl> (testing)
[22:02] <wxl> as that willl be number one
[22:02] <kc2bez> I can help with that ^
[22:02] <wxl> that'd be great
[22:03] <wxl> and that's about all :)
 the issues that are blocking it were with some obscure cpu architecture, right?
[22:03] <wxl> i believe that's resolved now
 Well then! It already works in Disco, it's probably time I figured out how to test SRUs
[22:04] <wxl> !info libqt5webkit5 cosmic
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALefa08444d372: Screenshot for file associations and fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALefa08444d372
[22:04] <wxl> !info libqt5webkit5 cosmic-proposed
[22:04] <wxl> there we go
[22:04] <wxl> that's the one
[22:05] <wxl> so you could add the proposed repo, then install libqt5webkit5=5.212.0~alpha2-12ubuntu1.1
[22:05] <wxl> then disabled proposed so you don't get in trouble :)
[22:06] <kc2bez> :)
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/bQfv474G/file_4547.png
 according to this, you can set a preference for it in apt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
 (might be outdated, because it's the ubuntu wiki)
 @TheWendyPower [<reply to image>], WOW. That looks amazing.
[22:08] <wxl> ^^^ that
[22:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa0f5aa4ef92: Add monitor settings screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa0f5aa4ef92
 By the way, fish and chips is great :)
 Thanks. The goal was to make it look like it belongs.
[22:08] <kc2bez> Very nice Wendy!
[22:08] <wxl> love the colors
[22:10] <tsimonq2> So
[22:10] <tsimonq2> wxl: Anything else?
[22:10] <wxl> @kc2bez you can respond here if it looks good/bad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-opensource-src/+bug/1799026 as well as on the internal task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135
[22:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] patch qtwebkit so Trojitá emails display correctly: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135
[22:10] <wxl> nope i'm done
[22:11] <tsimonq2> Alright.
[22:11] <kc2bez> Will do wxl
[22:11] <tsimonq2> So, @marneu is our new Reddit Masochist. New title names welcome. :P
[22:11] <tsimonq2> How's r/Lubuntu been looking?
 Well, it's quiet except for the occasional support request.
 Looks awesome @TheWendyPower
 Might need to lower the spam filter settings, there are still too many legit posts that get caught in it.
 Now I know you prefer a left and right panel format and not vertically good to know
 @marneu [Might need to lower the spam filter settings, there are still too many legit pos …], Got it.
[22:13] <wxl> @marneau any of those that need us to fix/improve things or require manual entries?
 I've set up an RPI-powered display to alert me of new modqueue items, so that works for now.
 But when I'm asleep, submitters will obviously have to wait :D
 Sweeet \o/
 Other than that, I submitted a new ascii-logo for Lubuntu to neofetch last week (or something).
[22:15] <wxl> that was you? rad!
 Needs some cleaning up maybe, I used a webservice to generate it. ... wxl: Yeah, 'marneu' was already taken on Github :D
 We ship neofetch by default, maybe we should enable that logo by default >_>
 Yeah, you'd probably need to alias neofetch.
[22:16] <wxl> does it not Just Work?
[22:16] <wxl> i haven't looked at the code
[22:16] <wxl> i assume it uses lsb
 no, because of Ubuntu flavors
[22:16] <tsimonq2> ^
 Coulda sworn some flavors had it working by default at some point, though.
[22:17] <wxl> does it have a config file?
[22:17] <wxl> we could ship one of those if so
 It does, but I think you can't specify this.
[22:18] <wxl> there is a config file
 Didn't think lubuntu could run in a raspberry pi tbh
 You could alias 'neofetch' with 'neofetch --ascii_distro lubuntu', but idk if that's good form.
 Nuts thought the new lowest gig ram requirement is 1 gig min
 @Wafficus [Didn't think lubuntu could run in a raspberry pi tbh], Oh it can
[22:19] <wxl> see if you can figure that out, @marneu. assuming the neofetch package had the new logo, it would be a simple fix in lubuntu-default-settings
[22:19] <wxl> @marneau that would involve likely shipping a .bashrc which is not ideal
[22:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: But it's how agaida would do it XD
[22:19] <tsimonq2> "Oh just put it in /etc/skel"
[22:19] <wxl> @Wafficus not the original pi
[22:19]  * wxl sighs
 Pi3 right?
[22:19] <tsimonq2> And 2
 I usually throw aliases into ~/bin, but yeah I'll take a look at the config.
[22:20] <wxl> we don't have a ~/bin by default admittedly
[22:20] <wxl> yep @Wafficus
 Oh, yeah
 I want one!
 Sick good to know tbh. Always debated it
[22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf48eb2869c5c: Fix link and use .. code:: for command line] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf48eb2869c5c
 I thought only raspian and retro pi could be run on it and other super low requirement os's
 Lubuntu 16.04 *is* a super low requirement OS :D
 Even uses Raspbian's DE.
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Uh, Raspbian uses *our* DE XD
 LXQt works as well, I've tested it on Raspbian 9
 uuh, yeah
 How much ram does raspberry pi 3 have anyway
[22:22] <tsimonq2> Anyway, anything else to mention @marneu? :)
 1GB
 nope!
 Good to know
[22:23] <tsimonq2> I guess kc2bez is next.
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Or wait... did you go or not? :)
[22:23] <wxl> did
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Cool.
 I did.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> And I don't think @Wolfenprey is around, but I'd like to congratulate him on his good work lately with the Spanish group :)
[22:24] <tsimonq2> We're up to 164 members on Telegram.
 WOW!
 Pretty sick
[22:24] <tsimonq2> ikr :D
 Muy bueno
 😄
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Keep on chugging away, y'all! I think next week I want to resume the weekly newsletters, immediately after the meeting to get content from everyone in there.
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Speaking of that...
[22:25] <tsimonq2> It would be great to get people to RSVP for these things on Phab. :P
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Next one: https://phab.lubuntu.me/E12
[22:26] <tsimonq2> And if for some reason I forget your name in the invitations list, let me know and I'll gladly add you.
[22:26] <tsimonq2> That way I can prepare the List Of Doom, AKA who goes first, beforehand. :P
[22:27] <tsimonq2> I don't know if we should do separate announcements for the team meetings anyway, but people who read the newsletter are usually also interested in what we're working on (thus the meetings).
[22:27] <tsimonq2> So
[22:27] <tsimonq2> AOB?
[22:27] <wxl> bioe
[22:27] <tsimonq2> (Any Other Business?)
[22:27] <wxl> wow
[22:27] <wxl> nope
[22:27] <lynorian> nope
 Nope
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Cool cool.
 nope!
[22:28] <tsimonq2> OH
[22:28] <tsimonq2> One more thing.
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Before y'all go, please do subscribe to this thing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 19.04 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts related to Super key] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#3041
[22:28] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117 not https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154 XD
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 19.04 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Fix shortcuts related to Super key: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154
[22:29] <tsimonq2> That way we can all keep in touch on qool 19.04 things.
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Anyway, so if that's everything, I guess this meeting's done with :)
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Keep up the great work, folks!
[22:30] <wxl> yay thx
 same!
[22:30] <wxl> oh
[22:30] <wxl> i guess i'll say one more thing
[22:31] <wxl> if you feel down, go here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152
[22:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Disco Dingo Wallpaper: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152
[22:32] <wxl> in particular, don't miss the misterbubz link. he is reason alone to get an instagram account
[22:33] <tsimonq2> hahahahahahaha
[22:33] <kc2bez> Saw that earlier it was pretty great. :)
[22:33] <wxl> there's one where they set the video to some black metal and it's so hilarious. god i love that dog.
 Thanks for the Internet rabbit hole wxl LoL
[22:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2b98fdb2f862: Add screenshotception and clarify interactive screenshots] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2b98fdb2f862
[22:35] <wxl> np :)
[22:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Your dog is totally better though
[22:40] <wxl> i put a pic of her, too :)
[22:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGb5cdd08cc5dc: Reorganize release posts a bit.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGb5cdd08cc5dc
[22:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGcb5a05fe0569: Import the Disco post so it can be translated.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGcb5a05fe0569
[22:41] <tsimonq2> :D
 I found the option in neofetch's config file, on line 619: ... ascii_distro="auto" ... To display the Lubuntu logo, change it to  ... ascii_distro="Lubuntu"
[22:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: hurry pull down the latest neofetch in debian :)
 It already works with the newest github neofetch version.
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Latest upload:  [2018-06-20] Accepted neofetch 5.0.0-1 (source all) into unstable (Nobuhiro Iwamatsu)
[22:44] <tsimonq2> baaaaaaah
[22:44] <tsimonq2> @marneu: Go nag them to do a release. XD
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Otherwise I'll cherry-pick it in Ubuntu.
[22:44] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:44] <wxl> or just pull the patch down but jeez
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Can we do XDG settings?
[22:45] <wxl> that's what i was thinking we could do
 Damn, that's old. Who's maintaining that package, anyway?
 ah, the source actually doesn't have a proper release that's newer than 5.0.0
[22:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGf755b7a16289: Substitute : as well, because it's a YAML keyword.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGf755b7a16289
[23:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts related to Super key] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#3044
[23:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts related to Super key] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#3045
[23:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts related to Super key] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#3046
[23:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T135: patch qtwebkit so Trojitá emails display correctly] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135#3048
[23:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T135: patch qtwebkit so Trojitá emails display correctly] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135#3049
[23:54] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1768961 is the bane of my existence
[23:55] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you confirmed that. don't ask me how. i can't repeat the behavior for whatever reason.