[12:43] <mrcreativity> Huffalump: ...how come?
[12:43] <Horscht> well, not directyl
[12:43] <shiv_j> atomiku: its samlinux
[12:43] <atomiku> ?
[12:43] <atomiku> what is it
[12:43] <Horscht> didn't have a setting to disable the siund in the BIOS
[12:43] <Huffalump> mrcreativity, everything works.
[12:43] <Jerichau> anyone know an easy way to get bash to spit out all currently set environmental variables?
[12:43] <mrcreativity> lol
[12:44] <mrcreativity> good point
[12:44] <shiv_j> atomiku: just google it, if u like xfce this is for u
[12:44] <mrcreativity> ive never used a mac extenssively
[12:44] <xq> tripppy: Read this one: http://kapsi.fi/~mcfrisk/linux_gprs.html#AEN322 ?
[12:44] <Horscht> but I disabled the sound using Fn + F8 on my keyboard
[12:44] <Horscht> and re-enabled it and now it works
[12:44] <Huffalump> Horscht, cool!
[12:44] <dave132356> Jerichau, type env
[12:44] <peteremc1> can someone help me with the gnome partition editor?
[12:44] <peteremc1> thanks
[12:44] <fortitUs> hey where do i go to get packages for ubuntu?
[12:44] <xq> tripppy: Near the end/middle (look for rfcomm). It tells you how to adjust the init.d script for bluetooth
[12:44] <Heroin> My computer has an AMD64 sticker on it.. does that mean i have a 64bit CPU?/
[12:44] <Horscht> thanks again, Huffalump
[12:44] <Huffalump> anarchris, so we're dvds on amd64, right?
[12:44] <vm> how do i unrar? anyone plz help?
[12:44] <Jerichau> Dave123, cheers :)
[12:44] <Hor|zon> anyone in here know css?
[12:44] <Huffalump> Heroin, it might mean that.  Or it means someone put a stick on your machine.
[12:44] <Heroin> vm u can unrar files with rar
[12:45] <xq> vm: unrar
[12:45] <Huffalump> hor|zon try #css
[12:45] <Heroin> Huffalump well its my friends computer..
[12:45] <vm> plz explain?
[12:45] <Hor|zon> lol there' a channel? thanks
[12:45] <Heroin> vm hold up let me find something for u
[12:45] <atomiku> Just installed ubuntu 7.04 and then xfce, any idea why some of the icons are missing in XFCE4?
[12:45] <fortitUs> is there any ubuntu package manager? =(
[12:45] <Hug1> anyone can help with problem related to net booting a computer with on board nvidia ethernet?
[12:46] <Heroin> vm http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
[12:46] <dave132356> Can anyone help me, when i try to remove dokuwiki using "apt-get remove dokuwiki" i get the following error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16770/
[12:46] <xq> http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/29/2031237&tid=13
[12:46] <xq> Either of those works, check them out vm
[12:46] <jrib> fortitUs: system > administration > synaptic,  add/remove programs, apt-get, aptitude
[12:46] <fortitUs> thanks
[12:46] <scot524> fortitUS: System >> Admin >> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:46] <tripppy> xq, sorry no idea. dont understand whats that got to do with it. im using a nokia phone and im trying to wake the PC with bluetooth. i think im pipe dreaming.
[12:46] <Heroin> vm or an easier way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1070
[12:46] <fortitUs> Synaptic hung when i opened it just now =(
[12:46] <Huffalump> Anarchris, strangely the documentation online seems missing for Feisty
[12:47] <peteremc1> can someone help me with the gnome partition editor?
[12:47] <anarchris> hmm..
[12:47] <anarchris> i'll have a good look on google
[12:48] <scot524> fortitUs: Did it ask for your password?
[12:48] <christine_> hello can somebody help me. mythtv run before the login prompt how do i remove this option?
[12:49] <fortitUs> scot: it works already... but guifications isnt on the list =(
[12:49] <vm> Heroin: i have added it, but i dnt know how to use the command properly
[12:49] <peteremc1> can someone help me with the gnome partition editor?
[12:50] <zark0> what do you need to do?
[12:50] <peteremc1> im currently in the live cd
[12:50] <vm> unrar
[12:50] <drago> How can i prevent gaim from parsing html and </> stuff? Really annoying when chatting about webdesign ..
[12:50] <peteremc1> trying to install ubuntu alongside vista
[12:50] <Huffalump> anarchris, I upgraded from Edgy.... so I haven't had to use the Feisty method for DVD playback, but I remember reading it was supposed to be super easy (hence, I was just going to look for the link)
[12:50] <Lordveda> peteremc1: What is the problem of being on the liveCD and use gparted?
[12:50] <peteremc1> but im not sure how to shrink my C: without destroying the vista install
[12:51] <scot524> fortitUs: search for gaim --- I'll see if I can find it
[12:51] <zark0> i recommend getting gParted peteremc1
[12:51] <[A] ndy80> hi
[12:51] <kerik> hey guys
[12:51] <Huffalump> peteremc1, it sounds like just a confidence issue for you.  you understand the tool.  trust all the people who say it works great :)
[12:51] <kerik> !Nautilus
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <PingunZ> !codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:51] <peteremc1> huffalump, it is showing my C: as 93GB of unallocated space
[12:52] <kerik> can anyone tell me what Nautilus does?
[12:52] <vm> Can someone help me with unrar'ing a file please?
[12:52] <peteremc1> even though its defiantely still there and even accessible from the shortcut on the desktop
[12:52] <[A] ndy80> I tried to upgrade to feisty from edgy. There was an error wth gmediastreamer-0.12 packages... an error in the installa script... now I've an unstable/hybrid system... I can boot but I cannot upgrade gmediaserver or remove it!!! :(
[12:52] <scot524> forticUS: It's gaim-guifications
[12:52] <scot524> forticUS: Sorry, I didn't know gaim that well
[12:52] <PingunZ> What is the easy way to install codecs in Feisty ?
[12:52] <kerik> I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and now Nautilus is calling an error...
[12:52] <Horscht> hm... now I got sound working, but I can't play Videos.
[12:52] <Lordveda> Where are the Release notes for Feisty Fawn?
[12:52] <peteremc1> it is only letting me select "New" which it says will delete any previous partitions
[12:52] <Blubloblu> how do I get nvidea driver to work in Feisty
[12:53] <jrib> [A] ndy80: pastebin the errors you get when you try to remove it
[12:53] <Blubloblu> All thats working is vesa, in a low resolustion
[12:53] <PingunZ> !feisty
[12:53] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[12:53] <Horscht> mplayer tells me "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"
[12:53] <vm> has anyone ever run warcraft 3 using wine?
[12:54] <magnetron> PingunZ: double click a media file, let it install codecs
[12:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> vm I do
[12:54] <xq> P-K: http://www.automatic.com or install the codecs using Synaptic when you need them (just search for them -- i.e. mpeg).
[12:54] <zunbeltz> Hi
[12:54] <fortitUs> vm: i died doing that on Fed core
[12:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> vm frzen throne
[12:54] <albert> when can i expect the wiki to be up again?
[12:54] <scot524> fortitUs: any luck?
[12:54] <zunbeltz> I need help with the sound configuration
[12:54] <magnetron> vm: a lot, i hear it works well in wine
[12:54] <fortitUs> scot: i got it already thanks alot
[12:54] <PingunZ> magnetron: k, cool
[12:54] <PingunZ> Lordveda: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
[12:54] <zunbeltz> after upgrading to feisty i can not login in gnome
[12:54] <zunbeltz> it freeze
[12:54] <magnetron> vm: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:54] <fortitUs> scot i used this: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/294659/gaim-guifications
[12:55] <kerik> is Nautilus important?
[12:55] <foxiness> zunbeltz: simple
[12:55] <fortitUs> Now. should i get beryl mm
[12:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> kerik yes
[12:55] <kpel> zunbeltz: sound is crippled for me as well. i suppose it's part of the process :P
[12:55] <foxiness> zunbeltz: just make sure to change the default session to gnome :)
[12:55] <magnetron> albert: the wiki is down?
[12:55] <zunbeltz> If found that if i delgroup from sound
[12:55] <scot524> fortitUs: Beryl is cool, but what kind of vid card do you have?
[12:55] <zunbeltz> I can login
[12:55] <AbasCatus> !nvidia
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <albert> magnetron, ye
[12:56] <albert> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/443/
[12:56] <dave132356> Can anyone help me, when i try to remove dokuwiki using "apt-get remove dokuwiki" i get the following error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16770/
[12:56] <albert> it's the german one. i don't know about the other wikis
[12:57] <peteremc1> anyone help me with the partitions?
[12:57] <foxiness> dave132356: did you start with alpah version of ubuntu ?
[12:57] <foug> is there a way to "dump" my memory?
[12:57] <foxiness> !ask
[12:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:57] <dave132356> foxiness, no i'm using 6.10
[12:58] <zunbeltz> but how do  i reconfigure the sound card
[12:58] <atomiku> Im using XFCE on ubuntu 7.04 but some of the icons are messed up, how can i fix this?
[12:58] <zark0> can anyone recommend any good news feed readers?
[12:59] <fortitUs> hmm what music player should i get =(
[12:59] <xq> xmms ;p
[12:59] <foxiness> dave132356: can you plz try this first sudo apt-get install , with output
[12:59] <peteremc1> why does it not see my current vista partition in GParted?
[12:59] <vm> Would i be able to run warcraft 3 through wine?
[12:59] <xq> yes
[01:00] <vm> xp can you help me set that up?
[01:00] <Stig> Hi. I am new to linux and have downloaded a clock which is a .deb.sha1sum file, how do I install it?
[01:00] <Horscht> can someone tell me how to set the video_out device
[01:00] <xq> vm, Did you get wine installed (wine, wine core, wine graphical interface)?
[01:01] <chowmeined> Stig: that is just a signature for the real package
[01:01] <xq> vm, Just go to Synaptic Package Manager and do a search for "wine" you will see those three, mark them for installation and hit apply.
[01:01] <xq> Then open it up, it's pretty self explanatory with file paths as long as the drive WC is on is mountable
[01:01] <Stig> this is what I want to install: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=34256&forumpage=1
[01:01] <zcat[1] > !orca
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about orca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <foug> !wine
[01:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:02] <cherva> i have a problem installing nvidia-glx on ubuntu 7.04 when i "apt-get install nvidia-glx" it selects the legasy drivers
[01:02] <Ravenheart> hey i wanna install ubuntu on my PC, problem is i've made 2 partitions, one is 30GB big and has my windows, and the other is i think 230GB and has my games and other stuff for windows, now is it possible to say get some space out of the second drive(230GB) and make a third drive without loosing all that i have on it?
[01:03] <peteremc1> why does it not see my current vista partition in GParted?
 use partition magic
[01:03] <zunbeltz> Anyone has problems with sound after upgrading to feisty
[01:03] <Horscht> i had
[01:03] <Ravenheart> is tehre a linux version of partition magic or should i use the windowso ne
[01:04] <chowmeined> how stable is the upgrade distro deal? Can I do that or should I expect problems?
[01:04] <Blubloblu> I click enable NVIDEA accelearted graphics driver, but when I reboot, the screen is black and I need to edit xorg.conf and use vesa
[01:04] <cherva> ravenheart: use the windows one
[01:04] <Ravenheart> k thanks
[01:04] <Horscht> fixed it by disabling sound (Fn + F8 on this laptop) and re-enabling it. zunbeltz
[01:04] <cherva> its more user friendly
[01:04] <zunbeltz> Horsch: I can not login in gnome if I am in the audio group, any idea
[01:04] <scapor> When installing Feisty, on the live CD all worked fine, but once in my installed system, both my mouse and keyboard (both USB) are very slow, both in X as on the terminals ... is there afix for this problem known ?
[01:04] <Wicks> is there a desktop effects channel?
[01:04] <LjL> !beryl > Wicks    (Wicks, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:04] <Horscht> #ubunt-effects
[01:05] <zunbeltz> my problem is that i can login in gnome
[01:05] <svu> is there a way to enable control center shell in feisty?
[01:05] <cherva> i have a problem installing nvidia-glx on ubuntu 7.04 when i "apt-get install nvidia-glx" it selects the legasy drivers
[01:05] <LjL> svu: i guess you can just type  gnome-control-center  in Alt+F2, or add that to the menu
[01:05] <Paul_UK> hey is foxiness here?
[01:05] <peteremc1> why does it not see my current vista partition in GParted?
[01:05] <LjL> cherva: uhm, could you pastebin the whole output of apt-get please?
[01:05] <christine_> hello can somebody help me. mythtv run before the login prompt how do i remove this option?
[01:06] <help_ubuntu704> hi guys! I am right now tring to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. I inserted the CD and i selected the option "Start or Install Ubuntu", but the follow error appear: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[01:06] <steinkill3r> /leave #ubuntu
[01:06] <LjL> christine_: if you type  ls /etc/init.d | grep myth , does anything show up?
[01:06] <help_ubuntu704> what i need to do??
[01:06] <dragons11> hey wt ver of ubuntu wld i use on a intel based mac ?
[01:06] <LjL> help_ubuntu704: i've seen that a lot these days. there's a bug report that's probably relevant, though i haven't got around to reading it yet. hold on for the URL
[01:06] <kasio> hi everyone
[01:06] <Blubloblu> ANYBODY want to help me??? I'm having trouble with video card drivers on my laptop!
[01:06] <dave132356> foxiness, sorry it took awhile but it told me i could autoremove some packages so i did that first, then the pastebin accused me of spamming it, here is the result of typing apt-get install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16776/
[01:07] <cherva> LjL : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16777/
[01:07] <LjL> !anybody | Blubloblu
[01:07] <ubotu> Blubloblu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:07] <Paul_UK> foxiness:  I have vmware workstation 6 (latest build), and now installing a virtual machine :)  so vm server should work fine :)
[01:07] <scapor> When installing Feisty, on the live CD all worked fine, but once in my installed system, both my mouse and keyboard (both USB) are very slow, both in X as on the terminals ... is there afix for this problem known ? Someone ?
[01:07] <Blubloblu> I click enable NVIDEA accelearted graphics driver, but when I reboot, the screen is black and I need to edit xorg.conf and use vesa
[01:07] <svu> LjL, so by default .desktop file is not installed, is it?
[01:07] <christine_> LjL : mythtv-backend
[01:07] <christine_> LjL : is the output.
[01:07] <Blubloblu> what driver should I use?
[01:07] <LjL> svu: it seems not. i don't know the details though (i, too, was under the impression that it would be there by default) - but i use KDE
[01:07] <dragons11> umm wt ver of ubuntu wld i use on a intel based mac?
[01:08] <dragons11> ppc?
[01:08] <kasio> anybody have help? i have  a grub error 18 after a feisty install alongside xp. I think it is because i am using an old bios
[01:08] <LjL> christine_: but it's the *frontend* that gets started up at boot, isn't it?
[01:08] <spikeb> no
[01:08] <foxiness> Paul_UK: nice :) i think i will do the same thing later
[01:08] <noob_> hi all i have installed itunes latest for windows on feisty should i be able to just go in the .wine folder and find the itunes.exe and open it?
[01:08] <zunbeltz> /exit
[01:08] <spikeb> dragons11, i386/regular pc
[01:08] <LjL> help_ubuntu704: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/96084
[01:08] <dragons11> kk ty
[01:08] <svu> LjL, I see. thanks:)
[01:08] <help_ubuntu704> LjL for when the URL containing the explanation to this problem???
[01:08] <christine_> LjL : yes its the front end. :(
[01:08] <scapor> dragons11: plain ubuntu for x86 I guess
[01:08] <help_ubuntu704> today?
[01:08] <scapor> noob_: didn't it create menu items ?
[01:08] <LjL> help_ubuntu704: read above. i just gave it to you. and if you notice, i'm trying to answer other 3 people. and i'm not paid for this. thanks.
[01:08] <Stig> How do I get into Compiz settings and add themes to compiz, etc?
[01:09] <noob_> scapor, where should it create it?
[01:09] <yagami> how do I reduce the text size in text terminals?
[01:09] <scapor> in the applications menuor on your desktop
[01:09] <vm> xq: what now?
[01:09] <yagami> i am trying to do that cause i can't fully see the details in rtorrent based on ncurses.
[01:09] <scapor> noob_: if it doesn't it should be in .wine/c_drive or something like that
[01:09] <christine_> LjL : anythere idea? :(
[01:09] <Heroin> yagami in a shell or in cli?
[01:09] <Ravenheart> using Gparted, if i re-size my bigger drive it would totally erase everything in it right?
[01:09] <xq> configure it and point it to the executable for WC
[01:09] <Horscht> oh, how awesome :/
[01:09] <scapor> noob_: then open "Program Files" etc ..you know?
[01:09] <dave132356> yagami, settings>font>shrink
[01:10] <Heroin> Ravenheart no i dont believe it removes
[01:10] <rambo3> Stig, #ubuntu-effects
[01:10] <vm> but how do i install WC?
[01:10] <Heroin> Ravenheart i rember it moved the empty space from one part. to another part.
[01:10] <yagami> Heroin: am not sure how to answer that- what do you get when you press Ctrl+Alt+F1...a tty?
[01:10] <Horscht> i got to decide between two different options: have desktop effects, or be able to watch Videos
[01:10] <LjL> cherva: what is the output of  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx ? and while you're at it, could could just paste your entire /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <LjL> mouse batteries have run out, hold on a second
[01:10] <noob_> scapor, it is located in that yes
[01:10] <Ravenheart> are you sure Geroin?
[01:10] <xq> it should already be installed on your windows partition/drive for WC to run it
[01:10] <Stig> thanka
[01:10] <Ravenheart> Heroin*
[01:10] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  how is it coming with Vista and Gparted?  You saw an unallocated space that concerned you?  What is that space supposed to be?  And does your Vista report it the same way gparted does?
[01:10] <scapor> noob_: open that folder and click the exe file
[01:10] <peteremc1> hey thanks Huffalump
[01:11] <peteremc1> im on the live cd
[01:11] <Heroin> yagami ctrl-alf-f1 is command line interface, dont know how to edit the size of that, but if ur running a shell from a gui u can edit the fonts and stuff
[01:11] <kerik> anybody had experience on updating from Edgy to Feisty?
[01:11] <peteremc1> and the link on the desktop allows me to browse my vista install (C:)
[01:11] <cherva> LjL : apt-cache - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16778/
[01:11] <Heroin> Ravenheart iam pretty sure.. u could check the website of gparted..
[01:11] <rambo3> kerik, that not a real question
[01:11] <scapor> noob_: you can create a "Starter" or menu item to it with as command "wine /path/to/itunes.exe" or I think "gnome-open /path/to/itunes.exe" would work too
[01:11] <foug> i just installed a program with wine and now it won't open. help eh?
[01:11] <peteremc1> but when i go to gparted, it says the whole C: is unallocated
[01:11] <Blubloblu> kerik: yes, a bad experience
[01:11] <yagami> Heroin: heh. i am tempted to say 'duh', but will resist :)
[01:11] <kerik> rambo3: true... :)
[01:11] <LjL> christine_: you need to know what is starting the frontend... if you type  ps aux | grep myth , what shows up?
[01:11] <peteremc1> and only allows me to choose "New" (which would wipe everything)
[01:11] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  so your Vista partition is 93G which Gparted is reporting as unallocated?
[01:11] <kpel> kerik: just make sure to back up your /etc and your /home . some packages don't seem to work in feisty
[01:11] <kerik> Blubloblu: ok...what happened?
[01:11] <peteremc1> yup
[01:12] <yagami> anywhos, thanks.
[01:12] <Heroin> yagami ^^ duh might be what u think, but for a lot of people there is no sense of what is what with linux
[01:12] <cherva> LjL : sources - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16779/
[01:12] <kerik> kpel: ok...ok...sounds like a good idea
[01:12] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  okay.  I don't know the initial answer as I've not seen that, but I'll help you find it.
[01:12] <Heroin> yagami there are a lot of new linux user since 7.04
[01:12] <Blubloblu> kerik, well first i had to rename device names, remount and stuff. Now the nvidea graphics driver doesnt work and if i use vesa, the resolution is too small
[01:12] <Ravenheart> what system should i use for a linix drive
[01:12] <foxiness> dave132356: k
[01:12] <Ravenheart> NTFS?
[01:12] <LjL> cherva: uhm, you have Milone's repositories enabled... must be somehow related to that.  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-legacy  as well please
[01:12] <fiery_cleric> !linix
[01:12] <scapor> When installing Feisty, on the live CD all worked fine, but once in my installed system, both my mouse and keyboard (both USB) are very slow, both in X as on the terminals ... is there afix for this problem known ? Someone ?
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <dj-fu> what the hell is linix?
[01:13] <noob_> scapor, it says when i try to open it, no application suitable for automatic installation of this file something along those lines
[01:13] <dj-fu> learn2englishnub
[01:13] <jrib> Ravenheart: for ubuntu linux, use ext3
[01:13] <secureT> jeaaaaaaaaaaah jeaaaaaaaaaaaah jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i can download as much as i want now i have a FLATRATE  no 5 gig limitation anymore jeeeeeeeeeah
[01:13] <kerik> Blubloblu: sounds like an annoying thing...
[01:13] <peteremc1> thanks, i have tried google and the ubuntu page but couldn't find anything relevent... it just kept bringing up options for if there wasn't already something there (eg: what to do when it SHOULD be unallocated)
[01:13] <alprr> hey guys can anyone tell me how to import a file.reg ????
[01:13] <yagami> Heroin: Yes, i can see that from the activity- this place is literally a tower of tux babel.
[01:13] <Ravenheart> linux sorry
[01:13] <scapor> noob_: sorry, I can't help you further
[01:13] <alprr> hey guys can anyone tell me how to import a file.reg ???? (its about whine)
[01:13] <cherva> LjL : i've just enabled it
[01:13] <LjL> cherva: i'd remove the Milone repository, it's for Edgy anyway not really for Feisty (though perhaps he's got a Feisty one now, not sure - but try with the plain repositories first)
[01:13] <Blubloblu> kerik: very annoying, i'm a bit lost too. I dont see how I can fix it
[01:13] <Ravenheart> first time i use it, its normal for me to be a newb :)
[01:13] <foug> how do i solve all the fixme's?
[01:13] <Wicks> every time i touch the touchpad on my laptop, it selects things all over the place. Can you turn that off?
[01:13] <fiery_cleric> Ravenheart: ext3 is the default isnt it?
[01:14] <noob_> scapor, do you use banshee?
[01:14] <Ravenheart> yeah
[01:14] <dave132356> Wicks yes
[01:14] <scapor> noob_: yes I do
[01:14] <jrib> alprr: if no one here knows at the moment, try #winehq
[01:14] <fiery_cleric> Ravenheart: use that then
[01:14] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16780/
[01:14] <alprr> ty
[01:14] <noob_> scapor, or amorak?
[01:14] <Xt3r> hi how can i fix it when grub returns with error 5
[01:14] <scapor> noob_: banshee
[01:14] <Paul_UK> how can i map drives with ubuntu?  i can mount them, but no application can seem to see them :(
[01:14] <noob_> because i have tried using that as an alternatice to itunes
[01:14] <dave132356> Wicks its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf always make a backup before editing it
[01:14] <Ravenheart> is it the best for linux
[01:14] <christine_> LjL : mythtv    6596  0.0  2.0<PHONE_NUMBER>4 ?        Ssl  18:45   0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --pidfile /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid
[01:14] <fiery_cleric> !ext3
[01:14] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:15] <scapor> noob_: I use banshee but I might change to rhythmbox
[01:15] <jrib> Paul_UK: how are you mounting them?  The applications don't see your mount point?
[01:15] <cherva> LjL: i removed albertoXXXX from software sources
[01:15] <christine_> LjL: this is what will show
[01:15] <noob_> does rythmbox have radio stations
[01:15] <noob_> ??
[01:15] <Pakalaka> has anyone got wireless with wpa working on feisty using WPA and ndiswrapper?
[01:15] <scapor> noob_: yes it does
[01:15] <LjL> cherva: do a  sudo apt-get update , and see what happens when you try installing nvidia-glx again
[01:15] <dave132356> Wicks scroll to the bit which is probably titled synaptics touchpad and its one of the options
[01:15] <jrib> noob_: yes
[01:15] <Afief> paul_uk: what do you mean no app can see them? for all the apps are concerned the drives are normal folders now
[01:15] <noob_> ok ill try installing that thanks
[01:15] <LjL> christine_: ok, but now the mythtv frontend isn't running, correct?
[01:15] <Paul_UK> jrib : places > connect to server > use windows share
[01:15] <scapor> When installing Feisty, on the live CD all worked fine, but once in my installed system, both my mouse and keyboard (both USB) are very slow, both in X as on the terminals ... is there afix for this problem known ? Someone ?
[01:15] <kerik> Blubloblu: guess there is no need to ask you if you have tried updating your nvidia drivers?
[01:15] <jrib> noob_: rhythmbox is installed by default
[01:15] <nielsm> wow, on my newly installed amd64 system (i have a number of ata and sata disks, winxp on hda1, installed feisty on hdc1) grub fails to boot. running grub from the livecd is useless, it doesn't seem to be able to do anything (find fails immediately, root fails for any parameters). i tried chroot'ing to my install and setting up lilo, which also fails to install itself
[01:15] <Wicks> davel132356 - I shall try it now, cheers buddy
[01:15] <Blubloblu> kerik: the problem is, i cant acces internet on it
[01:16] <kerik> Blubloblu: actually think I have heard quite a few complaints on the nvidia support in feisty...
[01:16] <LjL> !grub > nielsm    (nielsm, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <jrib> Paul_UK: ok, I have no idea how that works.  Nothing shows up in nautilus at all?
[01:16] <mesiah> Hello there!
[01:16] <kerik> Blubloblu: gee...that doesn't exactly make it any easier!
[01:16] <Lukemob> Guys, how to solve it? Read-only filesystem
[01:16] <Paul_UK> jrib: only desktop and home folders
[01:16] <jrib> Lukemob: what filesystem?
[01:16] <LjL> nielsm: grub shouldn't fail installing, if used from the live CD - however, you'll need to mount your (real) root partition somewhere, and then call grub-install with the approrpiate parameters
[01:16] <Blubloblu> kerik: so even if theres a driver, I cant install it
[01:16] <peteremc1> Huffalump, do you mind if i PM you?
[01:16] <christine_> LjL: yes its not running.
[01:16] <illJazz> err
[01:16] <kpel> kerik: also, if you need openoffice or curl it's better to stick with edgy
[01:16] <cherva> LjL: 10x MAN shoud i install also  nvidia-kernel-source it is on suggested packages
[01:16] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  yeah, I see much of the same.  While I'm poking around for something reliable, as a pragmatic issue... why were we not using the Vista Disk Manager? Just because?  I don't care really, but I was curious.
[01:16] <nielsm> LjL: that's not the problem, grub fails with error 17 or 18 (can't remember right now)
[01:16] <LjL> cherva: shouldn't be needed
[01:16] <Blubloblu> kerik: right now I'd be happy if I got vesa working in 1600x1200
[01:17] <jrib> Paul_UK: don't know then, maybe someone else can help, but be sure you mention it's a windows share when you repeat your question in a bit :)
[01:17] <kpel> those packages depend on ca-certificates and that package is somewhat broken for now
[01:17] <cherva> LjL: k thx
[01:17] <kerik> Blubloblu: is that due to a bad driver for your lan or?
[01:17] <illJazz> I downloaded VLC, tried Kaffeiene as well as the built-in movie player that comes with Feisty Fawn.. but nothing will play sound on my AVI video files :/
[01:17] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  you can do that, but we're more likely to pick up help from others if we keep the chatter here.
[01:17] <Pakalaka> lukemob: your system boots up in read only mode?
[01:17] <foug> !wine
[01:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:17] <fiery_cleric> nielsm what happens when u chroot ? ...
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> shoudl i get i386 version or 64bit version if i am using intel core 2 duo ?
[01:17] <illJazz> what good is Feisty to me if I can't even look at my porn with it?
[01:17] <LjL> nielsm: well, i don't know about that, but you've been trying to reinstall it using the Live CD and failing, or did i not understand?
[01:17] <illJazz> :)
[01:17] <mesiah> Is it possible to update a present Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 via apt-get update ? Thank you!
[01:17] <kerik> kpel: oo.org doesn't work on feisty?
[01:17] <Blubloblu> kerik: I have a usb adaptor "Belkin wireless G", it worked in edgy
[01:17] <jrib> !upgrade > mesiah    (mesiah, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:17] <Wicks> davel132356 - what option should I be looking for?
[01:17] <Paul_UK> jrib: shouldnt really matter, if i have a mounted share on my desktop, i expect every app to see it
[01:17] <kpel> kerik: not after i upgraded :(
[01:17] <kerik> Blubloblu: darn...
[01:17] <peteremc1> ok, no prob... i was having problems with the vista partitioner so it was suggested in here i use the one on the livecd :D
[01:17] <Lukemob> jrib: When I tried upgrade the packages, ... I got this error. ext3_reserve_inode_write: Readonly filesystem.
[01:18] <KenC> Can anyone help with restoring Xserver after upgrade to 7.04?
[01:18] <kpel> kerik: it won't even install. the installer throws an error
[01:18] <jrib> Paul_UK: if you type 'mount', does it show up?
[01:18] <kerik> kpel: that's just a beach
[01:18] <peteremc1> in vista, it was only letting me shrink the partition by 16MB...
[01:18] <nielsm> when i run grub from the livecd it seems to work, but there is no readline support, running "root" on any device fails, "find" fails immediately without even seeming to try
[01:18] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  I am hoping we might get you some help on Gparted and Vista from folks like LjL or jrib who have much more knowledge than I do.
[01:18] <peteremc1> i decided that wasn't enough for my new ubuntu installation :P
[01:18] <scot524> mesiah: change 'edgy' to 'feisty' in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:18] <LjL> christine_: i can't really install mythtv now to check, since it's huge... but do you know what the frontend filename is? (mythtv-frontend, mythfrontend, whatever)... it'd try a  grep myth /etc/init.d/*  to find out what is starting it
[01:18] <dave132356> Wicks i'm not sure google it
[01:18] <Ianman> hi everyone
[01:18] <Blubloblu> kerik: Do you think installing feisty from the cd and wiping my disk would be a good idea?
[01:18] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  16 megs would be a little short. heh.
[01:18] <Lukemob> jrib, any idea?
[01:19] <kerik> Blubloblu: I must admit that I have had the same idea....
[01:19] <Paul_UK> jrib: doesnt show my share to windows
[01:19] <kpel> kerik: tell me about it :) i found where the postinstall script exits but i don't know what's wrong: for some reason the script cannot execute successfuly the "db_version 2.0" line
[01:19] <webben> Hi I'm upgrading from Edgy to Feisty and the Distribution Upgrade window has gone blank gray
[01:19] <Blubloblu> kerik: but if it's a friver issue, im not sure if its worth it
[01:19] <webben> Does anyone know what that means?
[01:19] <Blubloblu> kerik: *driver
[01:19] <kerik> Blubloblu: I'm not at all an expert on linux, but in my logic that would clean out all old/bad drivers...
[01:19] <nielsm> fiery_cleric: i remount the install partition with exec, suid, dev permissions, chroot to it, install lilo with aptitude, sets up a standard /etc/lilo.conf, runs lilo, error: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[01:19] <fiery_cleric> nielsm: but can get a working shell when chroot to the installed filesystem?
[01:19] <Ianman> webben: never seen that before :(
[01:19] <kerik> Blubloblu: true
[01:20] <jinzo> i know there's a lot of buzz right now, but is there any other commands for fixing a broken system than apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a ?
[01:20] <LjL> nielsm: i'm afraid i'm not familiar enough with grub, but if lilo fails like that too, to my untrained nose it smells like a HD controller driving problem... no?
[01:20] <Blubloblu> kerik: do you know anything on getting usb wifi adaptors to work?
[01:20] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  the filesystem is NTFS, correct?
[01:20] <jrib> Paul_UK: k, does it show up when you visit "computer:///" in nautilus?
[01:20] <Lukemob> Pakalaka: I think so. I'm new in Linux.
[01:20] <LjL> jinzo, depends how it's broken
[01:20] <Ianman> I am having trouble getting my screenreoslution higher than 1024x768
[01:20] <kerik> Blubloblu: not very much...sorry...but do you know what chip is used?
[01:20] <fiery_cleric> nielsm: what happens when u run grub-install after chrooting?
[01:20] <Paul_UK> jrib: the windows share works fine, its just that when i am in an application, i cant seem to see the mounted share to be able to then access the files in it
[01:20] <Lukemob> Or can you just tell me, where could I find help?
[01:20] <mwe> !fixres | lanman
[01:20] <nielsm> hmm i'd be surprised if the controller is dying, the mobo is only a few months old, a dual socket 940 (opteron)
[01:20] <ubotu> lanman: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:20] <jinzo> LjL, some packages, dependencies problem :S
[01:20] <LjL> cherva: any luck?
[01:21] <Blubloblu> kerik: i thinks its something like FD7050
[01:21] <cherva> LjL: restarting X in a sec
[01:21] <peteremc1> yep NTFS
[01:21] <jrib> Paul_UK: does the application use the gtk file chooser?
[01:21] <Paul_UK> jrib: im using banshee
[01:21] <LjL> jinzo: well, let me see the dependency problems (i.e. all the apt-get output that you find relevant). pastebin the stuff
[01:21] <nielsm> hmm oh... maybe /dev/hda doesn't exist... i should create that first....
[01:21] <Ianman> thanks guys, I will look into it!
[01:21] <jinzo> LjL, and neither of those two commands can't handle it :S
[01:21] <scot524> Blobula: Is the FD5070 usb or PCMCIA?
[01:22] <scot524> Blobula: it's a belkin correct?
[01:22] <jinzo> LjL, ok, but it's ugly :P
[01:22] <jrib> Lukemob: if you google "ext3_reserve_inode_write: Readonly filesystem" there is a lot of discussion, but I don't know anything about it
[01:22] <mesiah> How do I know which version I have? Thank you?
[01:22] <jrib> !version > mesiah    (mesiah, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:22] <LjL> jinzo: paste it anyway :)
[01:22] <mwe> mesiah: of ubuntu?
[01:22] <scot524> mesiah: cat /etc/issue
[01:22] <tarelerulz> What is the best search program for gnome or kde ? on par with the search in windows?
[01:22] <omaaaar> mesiah: about ubuntu
[01:22] <pjesi> I have a package that is only in .rpm, .src.rpm, and .src formats, I have tried make on the src package with no luck, what is the recommended method to install this stuff on ubuntu?
[01:22] <mwe> mesiah: type lsb_release -a in a terminal
[01:22] <Paul_UK> jrib: actually never mind, i'll just cross this facility off the list.  i'll listen to my music with foobar player from my vmware machine.
[01:22] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, find ...
[01:23] <LjL> pjesi: what program is it?
[01:23] <jinzo> hmmz LjL i did apt-get clean, so cleaned the apt chace and now it is correcting them, will see if it would help
[01:23] <jrib> Paul_UK: rhythmbox should work
[01:23] <rambo3> Lukemob, your ext3 is fried
[01:23] <pjesi> LjL: it is Coral, http://crestwiki.abo.fi/confluence/display/CRL/Coral+0.9.3
[01:23] <light-kun> LjL: samba service keeps stopping whenever its idle for a while, how can i make it persistant even after long idle times?
[01:23] <claudiu> hello there
[01:23] <light-kun> is it configurable in smb.conf?
[01:23] <Paul_UK> jrib: i want something that interacts with my ipod as well, im not interested in getting a bunch of applications to do seperate things, i'd rather use windows and have 1 app do all
[01:23] <tarelerulz> find is good ,but I want something that is bit smart so if I don't spell it just right it can find it.
[01:23] <jinzo> light-kun, probably
[01:23] <mesiah> Thank you. I see have 6.06. So can't ugrade to 7.04:-(
[01:23] <tarelerulz> like windows I just had to know the basic name and I could find stuff
[01:24] <jrib> Paul_UK: you know, I am guessing it is possible to mount smb shares using the mount command right?
[01:24] <nielsm> ok, maybe i managed to install grub again now, i'll be booting (yay for remote irssi+screen)
[01:24] <claudiu> how can I enable  desktop sharing of feisty installation by using command line ?
[01:24] <LjL> light-kun: uhm, never happened to me
[01:24] <jinzo> mesiah, you can upgrade to 6.10 then 7.04 ( that's what i'm doing on my wannabe-server now :P )
[01:24] <Paul_UK> jrib: im staying as far away from the terminal as possible im not interested in learning CLI as that was 10 years ago
[01:24] <fiery_cleric> light-kun: your pc isnt going to sleep is it?
[01:24] <tarelerulz> The find program in gnome and on Konqueror don't seem to find anything
[01:24] <LjL> pjesi: can't find an Ubuntu package at first glance. get the .tar.gz, not the rpm/src files
[01:24] <jrib> Paul_UK: it would be a one time thing
[01:24] <mesiah> Oh thank you jinzo:-)
[01:24] <Paul_UK> jrib: should be 0 time thing to be honest
[01:25] <LjL> pjesi: then try compiling it. i'll give you a guide that should help you getting the basic dependencies right, then if it keeps failing to compile, ask
[01:25] <LjL> !compile > pjesi    (pjesi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:25] <pjesi> LjL: I got the tar.gz, but I cannot compile it so I thought perhaps I should give the rpm a try
[01:25] <mbudde> tarelerulz, have you checked out Beagle?
[01:25] <claudiu> how can I enable  desktop sharing in feisty without clicking on menus ?
[01:25] <LjL> pjesi: better not. rather, pastebin the errors that you get when compiling
[01:25] <pjesi> LjL: ok thanks
[01:25] <mesiah> and how will I do upgrade to 6.10 via shell command? Thank you!
[01:25] <sivaji> edgy to feisty upgrade error ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16781/ email add<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:25] <LjL> pjesi: (that is, pastebin the whole output from compiling)
[01:25] <Huffalump> Is there a gparted expert here?  Strangeness with a Vista partition being claimed as "unallocated"
[01:25] <jrib> Paul_UK: correct, banshee should be fixed.  I'm just suggesting this if you want it to work in the meantime
[01:25] <tarelerulz> Thanks mbudde
[01:25] <LjL> !upgrade > mesiah    (mesiah, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:25] <Erebus> Hi all - I have a question - how do I point Wine'd apps to a proxy?
[01:26] <kerik> Blubloblu: sorry mate...don't know what driver that one even uses...
[01:26] <jinzo> LjL, http://rafb.net/p/gJ4D2o38.html
[01:26] <Erebus> (Specifically WoW)
[01:26] <Paul_UK> jrib: its ok.  it seems for a few things, I will be using my Virtual Windows machine on my laptop
[01:26] <jinzo> ( i did a dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 )
[01:26] <jrib> Paul_UK: I believe this user had a similar problem if you would like to read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213824 .  Use what works best for you of course :)
[01:26] <Huffalump> peteremc1,  have you made an account on the forums yet?  It's a simple registration, no email checking necessary.    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2498870
[01:26] <Paul_UK> I have to use windows for pptp vpn, microsoft office and now listening to music.
[01:26] <LjL> jinzo: oh, courier-authdaemon... that's a known nasty bug, let me dig it out
[01:26] <kerik> how do I update my update-manager? - or see the version?
[01:26] <atomiku> Im using XFCE on ubuntu 7.04 but some of the icons are messed up, how can i fix this?
[01:26] <Paul_UK> seems linux isnt ready for primetime as a windows xp replacement
[01:27] <tarelerulz> I am so mad I can't see . I am trying to get my ssh working ,but I can't seem to find anything on my system about it
[01:27] <peteremc1> yeah i think i have one from a while ago
[01:27] <Caramba> Hiya folks. How do a force an external usb-drive to lways be associated with a certain device file? I have an external drive that is associated with sdb, but I'd like it to be sda. Thx in advance!
[01:27] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone,  have a good weekend   :-)
[01:27] <Erebus> Hi all - I have a question - how do I point Wine'd apps to a proxy? (Specifically WoW)
[01:27] <claudiu> does anyone know how can I enable "desktop sharing" without the mouse ?
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, ssh server or client ?
[01:27] <jinzo> tarelerulz, you would like a ssh-d or only client ?
[01:27] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, it replaced nearly all of my XP installs.  Everything from Photoshop to Warcraft.
[01:27] <LjL> jinzo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/64615
[01:27] <jinzo> Huffalump, did you got imageredy working ?
[01:27] <Paul_UK> Huffalump, office 2003?
[01:27] <atomiku> Hey Huffalump
[01:27] <tarelerulz> I would like both a client and sever ,but I would just like something
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> Paul_UK, openoffice ?
[01:27] <atomiku> Huffalump: Did you fix your problem?
[01:28] <Paul_UK> lol please not in the workplace
[01:28] <Erebus> Can anyone perhaps help me please?
[01:28] <Huffalump> jinzo, Photoshop CS3 (I don't use Image Ready)
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, then get both ?
[01:28] <kippi> has anyone used the caior-dock?
[01:28] <nielsm> yeah, it still fails to boot :(  grub loading stage 1.5 "error 17"
[01:28] <jrib> !helpme | Erebus
[01:28] <ubotu> Erebus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:28] <jinzo> Huffalump, ah yes, that works here too, but can't get imageredy to work :S
[01:28] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, I ditched MS Office 2003 for OpenOffice which is far better, for my needs.
[01:28] <Erebus> I did ask my question twice....
[01:28] <Erebus> I did ask my question twice....
[01:28] <Erebus> Hi all - I have a question - how do I point Wine'd apps to a proxy? (Specifically WoW)
[01:28] <fiery_cleric> nice
[01:28] <Huffalump> atomiku, no!  Made some progress but nvidia drivers still have an API mismatch
[01:28] <tarelerulz> I see ssh-agen on my computer when I look up the procese running
[01:28] <Paul_UK> Huffalump, when you are using Visio, Project, Outlook and Office, my needs are a bit more complex than yours ;) hence I need office
[01:28] <kippi> with cairo-dock I am getting a big black boder round it, does anyone know how to get rid off this?
[01:28] <eztk> anyone else had the "waiting for root file system..." issue after upgrading to Feisty?
[01:29] <claudiu> How can I do remote desktop in ubuntu ?
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, so you have the server running on your com ?
[01:29] <LjL> brandon^: please change your ident
[01:29] <Paul_UK> claudiu. use terminal services client
[01:29] <Erebus> Also, can someone recommend a decent mirc-like IRC client for ubuntu?
[01:29] <tarelerulz> It shows up in procces monitor
[01:29] <LjL> jinzo: you can see there's a few suggested workarounds - not sure how it's best to proceed. first thing anyway, make very sure you have the edgy-update and edgy-security repositories enabled for all components
[01:29] <rambo3> claudiu, you have rcp porgram in add/install internet section
[01:29] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, I use OpenOffice instead of Visio, OpenOffice instead of Office, and I use anything other than Outlook.  Granted, you've got me on Project, but I bet there's a compatible alternative... I just dont use it.
[01:29] <tarelerulz> I am so lost right now I don't really know anything other then what I told you
[01:29] <eztk> Jonah - did you get: "waiting for root file system..." issue after upgrading to Feisty?
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, pls do this sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start <--- thats to start the ssh server
[01:30] <brandon^> i have a question
[01:30] <jinzo> LjL, i think i have, will double check
[01:30] <Paul_UK> Huffalump, im sure there are certain things you cant do with openoffice, at work we tried to switch over to it, just couldnt do it.
[01:30] <Paul_UK> too many issues
[01:30] <Caramba> Hiya folks. How do a force an external usb-drive to lways be associated with a certain device file? I have an external drive that is associated with sdb, but I'd like it to be sda. Thx in advance!
[01:30] <eztk> huffalump: CrossLinux is perfect for running MS Project if need be. Even Office 2007 (which I can get for 20 quid under Home USer Programme)
[01:30] <atomiku> Huffalump: Mine is all working now
[01:30] <kerik> can anyone help me here.... I get this upon login: "The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly."
[01:30] <noob_> *has anybody used the add remove in feisty?
[01:30] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, no doubt.  There's some unhappiness with supercomplicated spreadsheet stuff... but I'm not into that.
[01:30] <brandon^> i have a question, reguarding dual booting linux/windows, pm me if you can help
[01:30] <atomiku> Huffalump: I completely reinstalled Ubuntu (since everything was f'd anyway)
[01:30] <brandon^> i have a question, reguarding dual booting linux/windows, pm me if you can help
[01:30] <Huffalump> atomiku, you like!
[01:30] <jonah> eztk: no, its a fresh install, GRUB was just very confused about which drive was which.. and im a n00b, so it took almost a day to figure it out..
[01:30] <Huffalump> atomiku, you lie!
[01:30] <rambo3> claudiu, gnome-rdp
[01:30] <LjL> jinzo: well then try  sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P courier-authdaemon , that seems to be the #1 proposed solution, though it's not reported to always work either
[01:30] <Ianman> noob_: yeah I have
[01:31] <eztk> jonah: ok
[01:31] <Huffalump> atomiku, ah... a reinstall.  Well, I'm still hoping to avoid that. :{
[01:31] <tarelerulz> it would seem I don't have that command is says
[01:31] <Paul_UK> eztk: you got office 2003 running with crosslinux?
[01:31] <kippi> with cairo-dock I am getting a big black boder round it, does anyone know how to get rid off this?
[01:31] <jrib> Erebus: try #winehq
[01:31] <LjL> !pm > brandon^    (brandon^, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:31] <atomiku> Huffalump: Hard to avoid I guess
[01:31] <jinzo> LjL, did it, didn't work
[01:31] <noob_> lanman i find it often stops responding
[01:31] <Erebus> Hi all - I have a question - how do I point Wine'd apps to a proxy? (Specifically WoW)
[01:31] <chowmeined> If I want to raid 1 two partitions do they have to be exactly the same size?
[01:31] <atomiku> Huffalump: Unless you want to spend hours trying to fix it: :P
[01:31] <Erebus> Also, can someone recommend a decent mirc-like IRC client for ubuntu?
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, then you do not have ssh server installed ...
[01:31] <atomiku> Erebus: xchat.
[01:31] <jrib> Erebus: xchat
[01:31] <Ianman> Er
[01:31] <chowmeined> I am trying to but I can't seem to make them have the same amount of sectors exactly
[01:31] <Huffalump> eztk, you mean CrossLinux like a Wine-ish thing?
[01:31] <atomiku> jrib: High five! o/
[01:31] <Ianman> Erebus: Gaim...
[01:31] <jinzo> LjL, i'll go with removing it from status
[01:31] <Itchy> Paul_UK: OO.o is not as good as MS office, but the biggest issue honestly is the fact the MS office doesnt support open document format, and that .doc is not supported very very well by Open Office, since .doc is prprietary.
[01:31] <atomiku> Eww
[01:31] <claudiu> rambo3: desktop sharing is not enabled , how can i activate it by CLI ?
[01:31] <atomiku> Ianman: gaim is horrible for IRC
[01:31] <eztk> Paul_UK: I haven't tried, but I believe it will work. I might get Office 2007 as its only 20 quid, and see if I can get it to work with CrossLinux
[01:31] <Erebus> Thanks - and wine/WoW through a proxy
[01:31] <Ianman> using it right now...no worries
[01:31] <atomiku> Ianman: ugh
[01:32] <tarelerulz> could it be the ex is named something else ?
[01:32] <eztk> huffalump: I believe its like Wine, but far more user friendly apparently
[01:32] <atomiku> Im using XFCE on ubuntu 7.04 but some of the icons are messed up, how can i fix this?
[01:32] <Ianman> oh
[01:32] <Ianman> mkay
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, whats ex ?
[01:32] <alvaro> anyone knows if i can installl shockwave pulg-in for firefox in ubuntu ?
[01:32] <LjL> jinzo: then i'd try the solution by Fedearne next
[01:32] <chowmeined> OO.o is very slow too
[01:32] <Huffalump> eztk, I've heard distant rumblings about it, I think. Cedega and something (CrossLinux).
[01:32] <claudiu> desktop sharing is not enabled , how can i activate it by CLI ?
[01:32] <Paul_UK> eztk: ok, well i couldnt get it to work and apparently crossover 6.0.1  only rated to office 2000 LOL!!!!!
[01:32] <wolfspirit> question for the room.. is it sage to hit the upgrade button or am I going to have some issues upgrading to fiesty that way?  I've read stories about previous upgrades failing.
[01:32] <tarelerulz> exaqcutble or  how ever you spell it
[01:32] <kerik> POVaddct: hey
[01:32] <eztk> there must be someone here who knows how to fix the buggered up kernal problem which leads to feisty leaving my machine unbootable?? "waiting for root file system" -- hangs then drops to busy box :(
[01:32] <pjesi> LjL: there is no ./configure, is this a problem?
[01:32] <atomiku> wolfspirit: Well, my upgrade f'd everything up
[01:32] <omaaaar> who has a sagem f@st 800 modem?
[01:32] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, what's different between Office 2K and 2K3 that you need?  "need!"
[01:33] <eztk> paul_UK: interesting
[01:33] <atomiku> wolfspirit: So... If you wanna risk it, hit the upgrade button
[01:33] <Itchy> Paul_UK dont use crossover. use wine directly; The wine documentation is good enough.
[01:33] <LjL> jinzo: uhm, i'm not particularly fond of the idea of removing it from status... but then i don't really know anything to say for sure
[01:33] <Paul_UK> Huffalump: Simple, I have a licence for 2003
[01:33] <Azureday> alvaro:It can be installed automaticly when you browsing a page with flash.
[01:33] <wolfspirit> atomiku: great.. so did you have to do a fresh install after that I suppose?
[01:33] <atomiku> wolfspirit: yup
[01:33] <jinzo> LjL, then i'll first try the Fedearne, then we will see
[01:33] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, I found that WINE worked pretty good for things I needed.  It was not *easy* in every case, but it did work.
[01:33] <LjL> pjesi: yes and no... there doesn't *have* to be a configure, but most programs do have one. read the INSTALL file (there is one, right?), if it just tells you to type "make" straight away, try that
[01:33] <eztk> wolfspirit: the lovely upgrade button has killed my system. that's why im here :(
[01:33] <atomiku> wolfspirit: I spent a whole day trying to fix everything that had broken, until I finaly realized it was time to start again
[01:33] <Paul_UK> Huffalump:  plus its just better, more stable, more functions, etc, etc.....
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, have you installed this package 'ssh' ?? btw pls search in synaptic for ssh server
[01:33] <eztk> wolfspirit: the damn kernel cant even mount my root file system
[01:34] <atomiku> eztk: yeah, it couldnt mount mine either
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: how did you fix it?
[01:34] <atomiku> eztk: did ubuntu stop booting?
[01:34] <atomiku> I ment
[01:34] <atomiku> did it freeze at about 1%?
[01:34] <tarelerulz> ok wickedpuppy
[01:34] <xq> SSH Server will be OpenSSH
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, and pls put my nick in front if you are talking to me :P it get confusing
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: yeah!
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: eventually throws me into busybox
[01:34] <alvaro> Azureday, i already have flash installed but i need shockwave and did not find it :(
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, true ... openssh-server is the package name
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: apparently its a duff kernel ?!
[01:34] <atomiku> eztk: I had the same problem. All I can suggest is that you get 7.04 on acd, and start again
[01:34] <LjL> pjesi: oh, fine, no install instructions.
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: or bad mapping ?
[01:34] <pjesi> LjL: yes I know
[01:34] <atomiku> eztk: I spent a whole day trying to fix it, with no luck
[01:34] <jinzo> LjL, tried, but can't install courier-authlib because of dependencies problems :S
[01:34] <eztk> atomiku: reinstall ???
[01:34] <brandon^>  Can i install ubuntu on a different hard drive rather than a different partition on the same hard drive i run windows on.
[01:34] <nielsm> hah! i managed to install lilo, now to see if it'll boot :D
 ,  well I will try to do that
[01:35] <atomiku> eztk: Yup, reinstall.
[01:35] <xq> Yes, brandon
[01:35] <Ianman> atomiku: yeah I guess xchat is better ;)
[01:35] <Itchy> Paul_UK: you wont get "more" anything by running things in any "emulator". and damn if wine is not an emulator i dunno.
[01:35] <atomiku> Ianman: :)
[01:35] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, well I think this thread started when you made the assertion that Ubuntu was ready to replace XP and I asserted that it was ;)  It may not be ready for primetime running of Microsoft's "We only work on Windows" Office which is purposefully designed to be OS-specific.  But you can hardly blame ubuntu for that.  Anyway, I say it is ready for primetime and there are many compatible solutions for many people's needs.  Apparently, your needs may
[01:35] <Huffalump> not be met at this time and I can totally empathize with that.
[01:35] <xq> Then just modify your MBR using the utility included to dual boot
[01:35] <eztk> atomiku: ohh no.. NOT again :((((( i had to do similar when I did dapper > edgy
[01:35] <Blubloblu> kerik: dont you find it ironic, that to get a driver for a internet device, you need to download it off the internet?
[01:35] <xq> lol
[01:35] <wolfspirit> question for the whole room:  Has anyone successfully upgraded to fiesty and I'm not talking about a fresh install.  If so, do you have a link to the instructions you followed?
[01:35] <nielsm> i installed ubuntu on a different drive and now i'm having these huge problems making anything boot at all :( (i don't know if it's a general problem though)
[01:35] <Ianman> lol
[01:35] <LjL> jinzo: give me the output of it all
[01:35] <eztk> atomiku: good job i moved /home to a separate partition... given what happened last time
[01:36] <jinzo> LjL, it's borked, how do i change the msgs it outputs to english ?
[01:36] <Itchy> Huffalump: i thought the Mac people had Office as well ?!
[01:36] <compwiz18> I'm having trouble with fglrx on Feisty... can someone give me a hand?
[01:36] <eztk> atomiku: why cant they make this damn upgrade work properly??? they might as well rename the button [REINSTALL]
[01:36] <rambo3> nielsm, make /boot/ on first disk and / on second drive
[01:36] <nielsm> and now to boot again.... (and i just got rhythbox working again! damn)
[01:36] <Paul_UK> Huffalump, i disagree with your statement that its ready to replace windows..  where is the replacement for winamp or foobar player, for starters.
[01:36] <mwe> nielsm: I don't think it's related to the fact that's it's installed on a different hdd
[01:36] <jinzo> LjL, i think i got it fixed
[01:36] <tarelerulz>  Well, wackedpuppy I am going to install open-ssh-sever
[01:36] <LjL> pjesi: did you already do  sudo apt-get install swig ? that's the first thing it complains about here
[01:36] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this?
[01:36] <jinzo> executed dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P courier-authdaemon
[01:36] <brandon^> does ubuntu support 2560x1600 resolution?
[01:36] <mwe> nielsm: do you know the linux names of the drives?
[01:36] <Itchy> Paul_UK: there are more replacements for winamp than you know !
[01:36] <Itchy> and winamp sucks !
[01:36] <omaaaar> nobody tried speedtouch with feisty?
[01:36] <eztk> atomiku: is it not possible to upgrade the install through live CD?
[01:36] <xq> Paul_UK: There are better replacements for audio products (on the gui) in Linux. But, when it comes down to it, it's up to taste.
[01:37] <Huffalump> Itchy - Microsoft dropped Mac support like a hot potato.  They abandoned both IE and Office and some other cruft.  Windows Media Player, if memory serves.  They only launch Mac stuff for a very short while and then leave everyone hanging on purpose to push changeover to Windows.  Think like a drug dealer; the first hit is free.
[01:37] <Paul_UK> Itchy. hence why i said foobar player lol
[01:37] <LjL> jinzo: good (anyway what's the language, if it's not too weird i should be able to guess the messages)
[01:37] <eztk> does everyone agree that I need to reinstall?!?
[01:37] <mwe> nielsm: if it's ide they're probably hda and hdb or something like that
[01:37] <atomiku> eztk: Yup
[01:37] <wolfspirit> brandon^: as long as your hardware supports it
[01:37] <xq> Paul_UK: There are a -ton- of WinAMP-like (+better functioning) in Linux.
[01:37] <eztk> atomiku: and do you know what caused this problem?
[01:37] <pjesi> LjL: yeah I got pretty far

[01:37] <benhetfield> salut tout le monde
[01:37] <brandon^>  it does :D
[01:37] <jinzo> LjL, so with a combination of Fedearne "fix" and udo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P courier-authdaemon
[01:37] <eztk> paul_uk: xmms
[01:37] <kerik> Blubloblu: I have had the very same thought a lot of times :)
[01:37] <joeri> i just updated my update-manager on edgy, and now i doesnt propose me anymore the update to feisty... any hints?
[01:37] <atomiku> eztk: Yup, the kernel is completely screwed
[01:37] <xq> Paul_UK: I favor XMMS though.
[01:37] <jinzo> LjL, nah msgs get cluttered, so i suspect it's because of the lang :S
[01:37] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this?
[01:37] <Paul_UK> eztk: so does that allow me to sync up my ipod tho?
[01:37] <atomiku> brb guys
[01:37] <LjL> pjesi: then please give me the output of how far you've got, so i can try to see what's next
[01:37] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, I love VLC over any other media player.  However, most others like Rhythmbox and other iTunes-like stuff.
[01:37] <eztk> atomiku: is there no way of upgrading the kernel?
[01:37] <atomiku> eztk: good luck with the reinstall ;)
[01:38] <Paul_UK> I use VLC player, for both wxp and linux
[01:38] <eztk> paul_uk: i dont have one, so i cant comment
[01:38] <brandon^>  does anyone like my pink?
[01:38] <nielsm> IT'S BOOTING yay :D lilo worked :)
[01:38] <cherva> LjL: no luck  problem with   "glx" i deleted it and still cant boot with nvidia driver
[01:38] <pjesi> LjL: yes I am compiling atm
[01:38] <claudiu> Paul_UK: I want to connect by remote login to a feisty machine but the screen is black
[01:38] <Paul_UK> eztk: i've read that it doesnt
[01:38] <xq> VLC is also up there with a nice piece of multimedia software
[01:38] <Blubloblu> kerik: man, feisty is a pain in the ass!
[01:38] <Itchy> Huffalump:yep, but if Mac people can run Windows on their Mac, then they gain something i beleive. Especially since apple is a more evil corp. than MS
[01:38] <Huffalump> Paul_UK, yeah I use VLC on linux, Mac, and XP
[01:38] <eztk> atomiku : *CRIES* :((((((( GRRRR
[01:38] <brandon^> !users
[01:38] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[01:38] <LjL> jinzo: well, i'm taking note, hope they fix this soon anyway, it seems pretty serious
[01:38] <brandon^> !info
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <Paul_UK> claudi, if you are connecting to a fiesty machine use VNC
[01:38] <brandon^> !topic
[01:38] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:38] <tarelerulz> I like gnome ok ,but I find that I like KDE packed app better
[01:38] <compwiz18> no one has any brilliant words of wisdom on fglrx problems?
[01:38] <Huffalump> Itchy, I can run XP in a virtual machine on my Ubuntu... so :D
[01:38] <claudiu> Paul_UK: it seems that it isn't enabled by default
[01:38] <LjL> cherva: well but, contrary to last time, it installed, didn't install legacy, right?
[01:38] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this? - I am using a radeon X1600 graphics card
[01:38] <eztk> until these upgrade problems are resolved, ubuntu will have to remain  in the backseat.. this is so not ready for prime time.. and I'm a Linux fan
[01:38] <sixth> hey, is beryl intergrated in 7.04?
[01:39] <Paul_UK> Guys to be honest, I think im more of a SUPER user.. i really do use alot of things for my laptop.  hell, I havent ever talked about video editing yet LOL
[01:39] <kerik> Blubloblu: sounds like a good thing to know just before I am about to update :)
[01:39] <hobojohn3> is there a way i can download the specific drivers for my cards
[01:39] <xq> no, sixth
[01:39] <xq> Just compiz
[01:39] <joeri> i just updated my update-manager on edgy, and now i doesnt propose me anymore the update to feisty... any hints?
[01:39] <break_> hey guys, i havea  quick question
[01:39] <hobojohn3> i run on a stock toshiba laptop
[01:39] <LjL> sixth: no - compiz is available, though not by default. System / Preferences / Desktop effects
[01:39] <sixth> xq, though, i can run it?
[01:39] <mwe> break_: ask it ;)
[01:39] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this? - I am using a radeon X1600 graphics card
[01:39] <sixth> neverheard of compiz :p
[01:39] <hobojohn3> intell stuff basic
[01:39] <Itchy> Paul_UK you might want to see the ubuntustudio prject
[01:39] <xq> sixth: Yes, it is available
[01:39] <LjL> sixth: it's in the repositories. #ubuntu-effects for help
[01:39] <LjL> !compiz > sixth    (sixth, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:39] <mwe> break_: soon or it wont be quick ;)
[01:39] <Horscht> hrm....
[01:39] <Itchy> !ubuntustudio
[01:39] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[01:39] <xq> sixth: Give Compiz a try :)
[01:39] <Paul_UK> Itchy, well its gonna take alot to tear me away from Adobe
[01:39] <sixth> thanks :)
[01:39] <sixth> sure will!
[01:39] <xq> I'll think you'll find it worthwhile. Also check out EmeraldThemes for it and grab some theme packs.
[01:40] <xq> Good luck! :)
[01:40] <cherva> LjL: it installed nvidia-glx but when i run nvidia-xconfig and reboot the gdm the f*****g blue screen apears
[01:40] <Erebus> Hi all, thanks for the tip on xchat
[01:40] <brandon^> Can i have windows installed b4 i install ubuntu and it will dual boot?
[01:40] <Erebus> Although gnome xchat blows
[01:40] <break_> id like to install feisty on my 250gb hard drive...but windows is installed on this drive. if i partition it, should it work alright?
[01:40] <xq> Yeah
[01:40] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this? - I am using a radeon X1600 graphics card
[01:40] <xq> I hate gnome xchat
[01:40] <mwe> brandon^: yes
[01:40] <Paul_UK> xhcat does blow!!!
[01:40] <Horscht> i can watch videos with the official ati driver, but i can't use desktop effects. If I use the Open source driver, i can use effects, but can't watch videos
[01:40] <mwe> brandon^: the installer will setup a dual boot for you
[01:40] <Paul_UK> hence why I use gaims internal one
[01:40] <Horscht> can someone help me?
[01:40] <Erebus> Now can anyone help me make WoW on wine work through a proxy?
[01:40] <fiery_cleric> brandon^: yeah ...
[01:40] <joeri> i just updated my update-manager on edgy, and now i doesnt propose me anymore the update to feisty... any hints?
[01:40] <AlbertoP> hello
[01:40] <sivaji> dpkg is not working it cant accept "dpkg --configure -a" help me ple
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> brandon^, not that you can or you cannot ... you MUST.. if you install linux then windows .. forget about booting to linux
[01:40] <BlackDesign> So, anyone who can recommend me to make the step from Dapper to Feisty?
[01:40] <wolfspirit> Erebus: works fine for me using cedega
[01:41] <jinzo> cherva, sounds like a BSOD :P checked logs ?
[01:41] <mwe> sivaji: sudo dpkg ...
[01:41] <xq> Cedega costs $$$ ;p
[01:41] <Itchy> Paul_UK: i do not support evil corporations, hence i use non evil corporations products only, making me non-adobe dependant. Those idiots created Flash, first thing i do when i find it is uninstalling it.
[01:41] <brandon^> :D
[01:41] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this?  I run linux from scratch :D
[01:41] <eztk> no one upgrade until these bugs are sorted out
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, ssh to yourself then ... ssh localhost
[01:41] <Huffalump> Itchy, easy enough when you don't get paid for it.  They can pry Adobe from my cold dead fingers (or in 5 years, when there's finally a decent alternative for some apps like Photoshop or Flash)
[01:42] <jrib> !language | Itchy
[01:42] <ubotu> Itchy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:42] <Hor|zon> wickedpuppy: you can easily install windows after linux...just restore grub afterwards
[01:42] <Paul_UK> Itchy: LOL definately.......!
[01:42] <pjesi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16783/
[01:42] <brandon^>  What version of ubuntu should i go with?
[01:42] <noob_> oh a family affair?
[01:42] <tarelerulz> That is one thing I have all ways been lost on . How do you find out what your localhost is?
[01:42] <jrib> brandon^: what do you want to use it for?
[01:42] <claudiu> how can I enable desktop sharing on ubuntu fresh install ? by using CLI
[01:42] <fiery_cleric> 6.06 LTS
[01:42] <mwe> brandon^: the latest, probably
[01:42] <Huffalump> brandon^ are you a new user without any previous experience?
[01:42] <sivaji> no
[01:42] <sivaji> dpkg: error processing xfonts-scalable (--configure):
[01:42] <sivaji>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:42] <sivaji> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:42] <wolfspirit> Erebus: make sure you have internet explorer installed as well.. there is some kind of DLL's I believe that packaged with that.. cedega works out of the box though
[01:42] <sivaji>  xfonts-scalable
[01:42] <compwiz18> the restricted-manager in Feisty is telling me I don't need any restricted drivers, even though I know for a fact that I have an ATI 200M inside my computer, and it _used_ to work, but now the drivers (fglrx) are messed up...any advice?
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> Hor|zon, wouldnt that make newbies go nut ? why go extra step ?
[01:42] <pmMike> so, um. any help for me?
[01:42] <brandon^>  i am a new user
[01:42] <jrib> sivaji: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste
[01:43] <xq> Just ask the question(s)! hehe
[01:43] <Erebus> wolfspirit: so i install IE through wine?
[01:43] <mwe> !info xfonts-scalable
[01:43] <tarelerulz> wickedpuppy Do you mean my ip or my computer namd
[01:43] <xq> Easier on the eyes and scrolling
[01:43] <pmMike> hi, my login screen is showing up at a stupidly high resolution (but zoomed on one corner) and i can just about log into my account where te resolution goes back down to normal. I've had a look in the xorg.conf file and it's only got my native resolutions in there. What should I do to fix this? - I am using a radeon X1600 graphics card
[01:43] <wolfspirit> Erebus: yeah
[01:43] <ubotu> xfonts-scalable: scalable fonts for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-6 (feisty), package size 333 kB, installed size 620 kB
[01:43] <Huffalump> brandon^ do you want a home desktop?  a server?  laptop?  do you have reasonable new hardware or an older machine?
[01:43] <jrib> brandon^: I would recommend the latest, feisty fawn 7.04
[01:43] <Afief> brandon^: if you're willing to get your hands a bit dirty, Feisty Fawn, if you want something proven to work, Dapper Drake
[01:43] <atomiku> hmm
[01:43] <Erebus> wolfspirit, thanks will give it a bash!
[01:43] <atomiku> OpenBox seems alright
[01:43] <atomiku> im using OpenBox with xfce4-panel
[01:43] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16781/
[01:43] <Caramba> Hiya folks. How do a force an external usb-drive to lways be associated with a certain device file? I have an external drive that is associated with sdb, but I'd like it to be sda. Thx in advance!
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, localhost is your own computer... nvm 'ssh <IP_ADDRESS>' <--- this command
[01:43] <mikeconcepts> I have to ask this question, since it seem odd, there have been no updates for 4 days, I'm on Feisty beta for paste few months and assumed nothing was needed after release
[01:43] <eztk> atomiku: will I lose settings by installing? what i mean is, will my /home in the other partition help??
[01:44] <brandon^> I just downloaded the 7.04 x64 version, any negatives by going with 64 bit?
[01:44] <Hor|zon> wickedpuppy: it's ridiculously easy after the first time I could remember the commands off of the top of my head
[01:44] <eztk> im not going to feel so bad about reinstalling if my /home settings are useful and picked up
[01:44] <eztk> like firefox for example
[01:44] <eztk> with all the bookmarks and settings
[01:44] <LjL> pjesi: that looks like a nice tell-nothing error, granted :) let me fiddle
[01:44] <jrib> brandon^: yes, you will have headaches gettings multimedia stuff like flash and java plugin to work
[01:44] <xq> mike00: maybe an unofficial weekend for developers? ;)
[01:44] <Huffalump> eztk, come back and let us know how it went?  I may have to follow in your footsteps at this point
[01:44] <fiery_cleric> !resolution | pmMike
[01:44] <ubotu> pmMike: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> Hor|zon, ok ...
[01:44] <mikeconcepts> have there been any updates on Feisty in th epast few days?
[01:44] <eztk> huffalump: i can stay logged in here easily as this is on my old xp boxen
[01:44] <brandon^> So sack up and use 32 huh?
[01:44] <cherva> LjL: i thing there is a problem with nvidia's version of the driver and the xorg's version maybe expecting something other i don't know what am I talking about
[01:44] <xq> not for what I have installed at least, mikeconcepts
[01:44] <Huffalump> brandon^, I run AMD64 and there are small annoyances as mentioned, but I do not find it a major problem.
[01:45] <dor> I created a new user, with the name "guest". Somehow I'm able to access my home folder (/home/dor) from within the "guest" user. How can I create a user with virtually no privileges at all?
[01:45] <eztk> huffalump: happy to help. atomiku has already been down this road tho.
[01:45] <mikeconcepts> xq, thanks
[01:45] <chowmeined> what on earth
[01:45] <break_> nobody has answered my question
[01:45] <chowmeined> the feisty alternate cd is broken
[01:45] <jinzo> dor, you need to chroot it afaik
[01:45] <zzz_> Hello, what does feisty fawn mean? I know that it is the code name for 7.04 but would like to learn what it means for a native English speaker.
[01:45] <sivaji> jrib:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16781/
[01:45] <eztk> i hope im not contributing to the destruction of peoples boxes
[01:45] <jrib> brandon^: if you use your computer to view alot of media and you are relatively new, 32bit is better.  64bit isn't worth it in that case
[01:45] <BlackDesign> chowmeined: download it again :=p
[01:45] <chowmeined> i cant make logical volumes on lvm
[01:45] <Paul_UK> isnt a fawn a under deer?
[01:46] <xq> A deer that is energetic ;p
[01:46] <chowmeined> no it has the correct md5.. and the cd verified itself
[01:46] <jinzo> dor, so you completly cut him off
[01:46] <Huffalump> brandon^ basically, what happens for Flash & Java... is you end up installing FireFox twice  (default install is Fx64 and that's already there.... you add the second Fx32 which you can then use Flash and Java with).  Follow me?  Small annoyance but easily worked around.
[01:46] <Paul_UK> *young not under lol
[01:46] <eztk> hmmm, so it looks as though no ones managed to fix it without reinstalling it... as you can see, im trying to delay this.. lol
[01:46] <chowmeined> the installer freaked out
[01:46] <zzz_> xq and Paul_UK: thanks
[01:46] <xq> Young deer that is energetic? lol
[01:46] <xq> :) no problemo
[01:46] <brandon^> Im simply testing it out. So go with x64.
[01:46] <dor> jinzo, ah?
[01:46] <Paul_UK> personally, its still born LOL
[01:46] <tarelerulz> I did ssh my ip and I got in I think
[01:46] <LjL> cherva, it's possible that you have stuff from milone's repository left enabled... though i have a hard time knowing how to check
[01:46] <atomiku> /quit
[01:46] <eztk> guys, if i install feisty on top of edgy, will my settings be intact??
[01:46] <eztk> i got /home on a sep partition
[01:46] <pjesi> LjL: yeah that is why I considered the RPM package
[01:46] <dor> jinzo, I didn't understand you answer
[01:46] <eztk> i'd like to keep firefox bookmarks, settings, tabs, etc
[01:46] <xq> yes, eztk, through the upgrade
[01:47] <brandon^> Any good games for Linux?
[01:47] <chowmeined> thats what it is
[01:47] <tarelerulz> wickedpuppy I did the command you post and I don't have it.
[01:47] <eztk> xq: unfortunately the upgrade killed the ability to boot :(
[01:47] <xq> eztk: using the upgrade manager
[01:47] <chowmeined> the installer just segfaulted
[01:47] <jinzo> dor, i anwsered wrong anyway, gimmi a sec
[01:47] <xq> ah
[01:47] <xq> well
[01:47] <christine_> please help me. :)i want to remove the upper and lower panel of my gnome? what is the command?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, don't have what ?
[01:47] <Huffalump> brandon^ I don't disagree with jrib.  It is correct that if you want the easiest environment, go with 32 because you won't have the few extra hassles.  But if you've got any interest in getting your fingers dirty then 64 isn't too tough.
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> tarelerulz, which command ?
[01:47] <tarelerulz>  nvm 'ssh <IP_ADDRESS> I don't have this
[01:47] <xq> It might be able to keep most of your files in tact, perhaps not the programs exactly.
[01:47] <Lorvija> Hey.. is there a way to ban a ip address for x mins after he has x failed login attempts in  ssh/ftp... noticing some ppl trying to brute force my machine.. :/
[01:47] <eztk> xq: hangs on "waitinf for root file system" or something
[01:47] <break_> fbi?
[01:48] <brandon^> Huffalump: Im a CS major, just never dealt with linux, i can probably figure it out?
[01:48] <dor> Ubuntu needs to have a parental control feature if it wants to control the low-end family market
[01:48] <Huffalump> brandon^ like Savage?  or Warcraft?  Thos work... what other games?  There's a bunch of old-school games, too, if you're down with that.
[01:48] <jinzo> dor, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot , there is something simmilar you can do with an user
[01:48] <jrib> sivaji: what is the context here?  What version of ubuntu?  Is this botched upgrade?
[01:48] <chowmeined> how am i supposed to create lvm partitions?
[01:48] <LjL> pjesi: installing rpms on ubuntu is *so* nasty... let me try some more before you go with that
[01:48] <slimaq> hi everybody can anybody help me?
[01:48] <cherva> LjL: i'll try to install nvidia's drivers from their site comming in a sec
[01:48] <chowmeined> the installer just segfaulted when I tried to make a logical volume under lvm
[01:49] <pjesi> LjL: ok thank you
[01:49] <Huffalump> brandon^ Ah, then you'll probably like the 64 bit.  Look, it works great!  There's just a few annoyances (Flash player, Java) that have known and well-working work arounds.   I say: get into it!
[01:49] <LjL> cherva: that's often not a good idea, especially when you start getting kernel updates
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> dor, parental control ? pls don't let computers be responsible for parents ... let the parents do the control
[01:49] <jrib> !helpme | slimaq
[01:49] <ubotu> slimaq: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:49] <dor> jinzo, thanks, I'll check it out
[01:49] <tarelerulz> I have this to ask if I ssh into other computer on my net work and it as me for password is the password the same on what it would be local when I login to that computer
[01:49] <LjL> cherva: i'm trying to find a way to single out any packages that may come from milone
[01:49] <xq> Lorvija: /etc/hosts.allow & /etc/hosts.deny are your friends
[01:49] <cherva> LjL: why?
[01:49] <brandon^> Does ubuntu supprot Quad SLI?
[01:49] <break_> I'd like to install Feisty on my 250gb hard drive...but Windows is installed on this drive. How do you all think I should do this?
[01:49] <th3e> how do i add applications to the open with dialog?
[01:49] <cherva> LjL: waithing
[01:49] <LjL> cherva: because each time the kernel is updated, you'll be left with no graphical interface
[01:49] <xq> Lorvija: Do a quick google search for hosts.deny :)
[01:49] <clouder`grr> I added the trash applet to my top panel, but the icon doesn't show trash when there clearly is trash in there.  It also doesn't enable the empty trash menu item.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:49] <Lorvija> xq well i'm searching for automated script.. so i do not need to be checking auth.log all the time (:
[01:49] <slimaq> i install compiz and i don't heve title bar when i maximalize the window i have open graphick drivers
[01:50] <fiery_cleric> tarelerulz: ???
[01:50] <sivaji> jrib:i got kubuntu 7.04 partially installed my dpkg crashed when i upgrade from kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04
[01:50] <cherva> LjL: well that's my second time i left with no gui :)
[01:50] <compwiz18> I'm having trouble with fglrx on Feisty and I've been working on it for a couple of hours.  Does anyone have any idea why restricted-manager suddenly thinks I don't need restricted drivers?
[01:50] <Jeepster[] > LsBlend !
[01:50] <LsBlend> can anybody help me?
[01:50] <break_> is it possible to get an answer in here or what?????
[01:50] <LjL> cherva: well, if you enjoy it... :P
[01:50] <Jeepster[] > ddwagnz !
[01:50] <ompaul> !help
[01:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:50] <Caramba> And hi again: For those who were interested in my question, but didn't know the answer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=511917
[01:50] <jinzo> break_, get a Feisty cd, burn it, put it in the cd-rom, reboot, and there it will be, a nice gui install program
[01:50] <dor> wickedpuppy, that's what I mean... A feature to let super-users control HTTP, so they can disable certain websites
[01:50] <christine_> please help me. :)i want to remove the upper and lower panel of my gnome? what is the command?
[01:50] <jrib> !patience | break_
[01:50] <Huffalump> brandon^ Here's a round-up of games (old, new, good, crud) -> http://happypenguin.org/
[01:50] <ubotu> break_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:50] <brandon^> Does ubuntu supprot Quad SLI?
[01:50] <LjL> break_: just follow the clear instructions in the installer. it's *made* to dual boot
[01:50] <cherva> LjL: I want to delete bite by bite my ubuntu when it hapens
[01:50] <LjL> !dualboot > break_    (break_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:50] <jinzo> it'll detect your windows installation, it'll even make room for ubuntu if you wish
[01:50] <cherva> pahhenes*
[01:50] <cherva> happenes*
[01:50] <xq> How simple does it need be (usability) and does it need to have a GUI?
[01:50] <break_> I know that, last time i tried it formatted my drive
[01:51] <LsBlend> Im having problems partitioning my drive
[01:51] <break_> are you sure it wont delete all my crap
 , when I log on to the computer locally I do my user name and pass word and when ssh my own computer I put in my normal use pass when when i was asked for password
[01:51] <PirateHead> I am constantly getting the message "hdc: drive not ready for command" in all of my text-only TTY interfaces. What could cause that? It's a new problem - did not happen yesterday.
[01:51] <jrib> sivaji: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:51] <LsBlend> I try to partition, but i cant
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> dor, if my parents block a certain website ... i go to my friend house to see it ... won't you do the same ?
[01:51] <Lorvija> xq very simple... just script or something
[01:51] <th3e> how do i add applications to the open with dialog?
[01:51] <cherva> LjL: I used envy on my last kernel update but it is not working in feisty :(
[01:51] <LsBlend> anybody?
[01:52] <fiery_cleric> tarelerulz: ok i what happens when u ssh in with your user/pass ?
[01:52] <Lorvija> xq i really dont care as long as it works (: so anything's good... though can't be X prog... only ssh access...
[01:52] <slimaq> i don't have titlebar in cpompiz what i have to do ?????????
[01:52] <Huffalump> brandon^ I believe that depends on the driver you install for your video, but there *is* some support for Quad SLI.  I am not an expert, but it does exist.
[01:52] <chowmeined> The feisty alternate cd's installer just segfaulted while I was trying to make lvm volumes...
[01:52] <dor> wickedpuppy, of course, but you can't go to your friend's house 24/7
 I seem to get in
[01:52] <fiery_cleric> tarelerulz: so it works :) whats the problem
[01:52] <slimaq> anybody can help me?
[01:52] <PirateHead> brandon^: Ubuntu does not support Quad SLI because the drivers for such a setup have not been worked out. You could set up a Quad SLI, but it would not give you the same performance boost. Huffalump says that there might be some support, and that's nice... I just haven't heard of it before.
[01:52] <ompaul> Lorvija, ssh -X user@box /usr/bin/programname works
[01:52] <chowmeined> i am not pleased
[01:52] <Ianman> this is driving me insane. I can't get my resolution sorted :( I am using open source ati drivers with aiglx and beryl and I am stuck at 1024x768. already looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 to no avail. anyone got any other ideas?
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> dor, no but you can view it the next day... a day won't make a difference ...
[01:53] <PirateHead> I am constantly getting the message "hdc: drive not ready for command" in all of my text-only TTY interfaces. What could cause that? It's a new problem - did not happen yesterday.
[01:53] <jrib> sivaji: your may be interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-scalable/+bug/107687 as well
[01:53] <Huffalump> PirateHead, there is 9629 via Envy which has Quad SLI
[01:53] <Lorvija> ompaul.. humm for what? =) don't really understand what that does (:
[01:53] <Huffalump> PirateHead and brandon^, again, I am no expert.
[01:53] <brandon^> Im just hoping my 4 video cards will run in Ubuntu without problems
[01:53] <LjL> cherva: ok, i cannot find a decent way, so please do  dpkg --get-selections | grep "nvidia\|restricted" | awk ' { print $1 } ' | xargs -n 1 apt-cache policy , and pastebin everything
[01:53] <tarelerulz> I was just wondering if that would be the same for the other computer on my network who I am trying to actess
[01:53] <th3e> how do i add applications to the open with dialog?
[01:53] <th3e> how do i add applications to the open with dialog?
[01:53] <xq> ld: I've never used it but have you just tried the commandline tool "denyhosts" ?
[01:53] <compwiz18> anyone got any ideas on why Feisty hates me and my fglrx?  restricted-manager thinks I don't need to use any restricted drivers (the little sticker on the front of my lappy tells me otherwise, however) and it used to let me easily install fglrx...  my attempts to compile fglrx like I used to do in Edgy have failed miserably as well.  It refuses to use fglrx in favor of Mesa.
[01:54] <sivaji> jrib:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16786/
[01:54] <xq> Or does it have no automation?
[01:54] <ompaul> Lorvija, run X program from box you ssh to on the one you are on
[01:54] <fiery_cleric> PirateHead: what is hdc a hard drive or a cdrom/writer/dvd ?
[01:54] <CrazyPanic> is there a friendly soul out there willing to give a little advice on apache log parsing?
[01:54] <Shaffox> !wireless
[01:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <Huffalump> brandon^ http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=42
[01:54] <cherva> LjL: LOL nice command and short too :) sec
[01:54] <Lorvija> ompaul... hmm with putty? (:
[01:54] <ompaul> Lorvija, as long as you are running X locally
[01:54] <Lorvija> ompaul well no x running.. (:
[01:54] <xq> I do know it DOES AUTOMATICALLY watch ssh for brute force entering and when these happen they get added to hosts.deny
[01:54] <PirateHead> fiery_cleric: how do I tell?
[01:54] <xq> So it does work well for that if you need that
[01:54] <jrib> sivaji: grep chassis /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.*
[01:54] <Huffalump> eztk still with us?
[01:54] <Lorvija> xq okay thanks, i'll check it out
[01:55] <tarelerulz> Well, that everyone that helped me with my ssh trouble . I seem go have it working and all it took was the right program
[01:55] <xq> The good thing is it doesn't need much support from other software for packet filtering
[01:55] <xq> Aye, give it a shot
[01:55] <xq> If not, come back ;)
[01:55] <Lorvija> sure =)
[01:55] <eztk> huffalump: just about!! im asking around elsewhere to find out if its possible to somehow change the kernel without having to reinstall
[01:55] <xq> I was looking for another I used on a network a while back that worked but it was pretty bloated and had way too many modules and dependencies
[01:55] <ulti2001> hey guys
[01:55] <Ianman> hi ulti2001
[01:55] <Horscht> how can I make my system support beryl and watching videos at the same time?
[01:55] <fiery_cleric> PirateHead:  cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
[01:55] <chrismir> any known issues with Firefox and floating point exceptions?
[01:56] <ulti2001> i have a question
[01:56] <Huffalump> eztk, why not get a kernel through Synaptic?
[01:56] <beatrice> hi, I am in the plugdev group, and I have write access to everything on my windows partition except my "My Documents" folder. Any ideas how to make that writeable?
[01:56] <ompaul> Lorvija, I have used cygwin-x when I needed to use a computer that did not have the good stuff installed on it and then run "X :0 -query servername" and logged in to have a real o/s on the machine
[01:56] <Ianman> Horscht: ??that doesn't work already?
[01:56] <Lorvija> xq or well i could just add like nearly all countries to deny.hosts.. :P except my home country (:
[01:56] <ulti2001> gij-4.1 takes up too much memory
[01:56] <brandon^> Looks like NVIDIA finally updated there video card drivers, and now support Quad sli in vista. I think i am gunna head that direction, thanks for your help everyone
[01:56] <Horscht> nope
[01:56] <ulti2001> i can't find out what it is used for
[01:56] <fiery_cleric> PirateHead: or look in the device manager
[01:56] <xq> true!
[01:56] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16787/
[01:56] <Huffalump> eztk, for example, I've got 3 kernels (2 from Edgy, 1 from Feisty)
[01:56] <koaL``> can someone explain to me what 'nohup' does please
[01:56] <PirateHead> fiery_cleric: TSSTcorpCDW/DVD TS-L462C
[01:56] <Ianman> Horscht: u using fglx and xgl?
[01:56] <xq> Or just add EVERYTHING and just add selected hosts to your hosts.allow :)
[01:56] <Horscht> when I use the official ati driver i can wathc videos, but can#t use beryl
[01:56] <cypher1> ulti2001, man gij ?
[01:56] <reiki> Feisty is automounting some partitions which is fine, but on my desktop they have generic names like "disk" and "disk-1" ... I am having trouble figuring out how to change those names. Any help?
[01:56] <henk1> hi everyone, I'm in running into  very strange problem when trying a clean destop install of feisty
[01:56] <PirateHead> fiery_cleric: it's my CDR/DVD drive I guess. Why is it outputting text over and over to my TTY?
[01:56] <sivaji> jrib: grep chassis /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.*  nothing happens when i run this command
[01:56] <Lorvija> ompaul okay.. but currently i dont really need X... (: just little server crunching in a corner of my room.. (:
[01:56] <fiery_cleric> PirateHead: ok so its a cdrom ... something is trying to access the drive when its not ready...
[01:57] <beatrice> koaL``, it prevents SIGHUP from killing your program, so it will keep running even after its parent process is killed
[01:57] <Horscht> when i use the open source one i can use beryl, but videos will be a blck rectangle only
[01:57] <koaL``> ok thanks
[01:57] <LjL> pjesi: install "pyqt-tools" and try again, that will probably give you *other* errors, but that part goes ok
[01:57] <PirateHead> fiery_cleric: There is nothing in my CD drive, yet a CD shows up in the Places -> Computer folder.
[01:57] <Ianman> Horscht: ok let me check what happens when I run a video here...
[01:57] <ompaul> Lorvija, add deny all and allow only the box you are coming from or - turn on and change config of security to allow more flexibity
[01:57] <Huffalump> Horscht, in all players?  VLC?  Just asking.
[01:57] <th3e> how do i add applications to the open with dialog?
[01:57] <Horscht> all players
[01:58] <Horscht> mplayer tells me that it couldn't initialize zhr video_out device, though
[01:58] <Lorvija> ompaul... well would work well but i do have to access from several ip addresses of which i do not know before.. (:
[01:58] <fiery_cleric> PirateHead: ok yeah thats probably something to do with it i am not sure how to fix tho :(
[01:58] <Blubloblu> How do i install a driver for a wireless networking adapter, if im not connected to internet?
[01:58] <jrib> th3e: right click> properties > open with
[01:58] <Erebus> Still no luck  - WoW doesn't see the proxy
[01:59] <fiery_cleric> Blubloblu: no wired connection? ... laptop?
[01:59] <Erebus> I imagine wine isn't seeting the gnome proxy settings
[01:59] <pjesi> LjL: you are right, now it is down to a syntax error :)
[01:59] <cypher1> reiki, is your partitions are labeled data, data-1 etc ?
[01:59] <ulti2001> cypherl, i found out it was for azureus it name is gij-4.1
[01:59] <Erebus> But I can't find proxy settings for wine...
[01:59] <Horscht> the problem is: i have an old ATI gaphics card, which isn't supported by the official driver
[01:59] <th3e> jrib: yes how do i add extra applications from which to choose from?
[01:59] <Blubloblu> fiery_cleric: of course, how stupid of me!
[01:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! After upgrading to Feisty no mpg / avi videos will play correctly.... i can hear the sound but theres no video...
[01:59] <jrib> th3e: on the bottom, there should be a button to add a custom command
[01:59] <reiki> cypher: I did not label the partitions. And e2label and tune2fs don't seem to work in Feisty
[01:59] <Erebus> Anyone got any ideas?
[01:59] <LjL> cherva: you seem to have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic installed, and that's not normal, it's edgy stuff... try removing it. remove also linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 and install inux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic instead
[01:59] <ulti2001> cypherl, it takes up 54 percent of my cpu
[02:00] <jrib> th3e: "add"
[02:00] <LjL> cherva: pastebin what apt-get says *before* hitting Yes, in each case
[02:00] <henk1> the live cd fails when starting X, with in /var/log/xorg.0.log  as final error "could not open default font fixed"
[02:00] <cherva> LjL: my os is upgraded from egy
[02:00] <pjesi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16791/
[02:00] <LjL> pjesi: a syntax error with traceback, that repeats like 10 times?
[02:00] <eztk> huffalump: not sure how that would help. i think i'd need to somehow boot from liveCD and fix the kernel from there
[02:00] <beerockxs> I just updated to Feisty, and now my screen in gdm is wrong, large parts of the screen are not visible, and the username/password prompt is not in the physical center of the screen
[02:00] <cypher1> reiki, is those windows partitions ?
[02:00] <henk1> anyone got any ideas?
[02:01] <beerockxs> I use the fglrx BigDesktop option
[02:01] <beerockxs> any idea how to fix that?
[02:01] <th3e> jrib: i want the icon application to appear too. just adding doesn't do that.
[02:01] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16792/
[02:01] <LjL> cherva: i imagined, but still i don't think you should have especially the latter package installed (and have -generic instead). what does "uname -r" give you btw?
[02:01] <pjesi> LjL: yes it is very strange
[02:01] <reiki> cypher1, no, they are ext3. If I boot to Edgy I can label them using e2label but I can not seem to change labels in Feisty
[02:01] <christine_> how do i remove gnome-panel.? when i tried to killall gnome-panel. it will go back.
[02:01] <jrib> th3e: what application?  what extension?
[02:02] <cherva> LjL: 2.6.20-15-386
[02:02] <LjL> pjesi: uhm actually, it's slightly different from the errors i get, though they still involve kernel.py
[02:02] <jrib> sivaji_2009: I'm googling the error now, see if you can find out what program it is trying to call with that wrong option
[02:02] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[02:02] <fiery_cleric> christine_: look at system->preferences->session ....
[02:02] <Notchnick> Good afternoon Spee_Der
[02:02] <tarelerulz> I have to say in the last week or so I have been have great fun getting Ubuntu up and running
[02:02] <LjL> cherva: uhm, ok hit Yes, and install also "linux-generic"
[02:03] <sivaji_2009> jrib: i cant get u
[02:03] <th3e> jrib: for eg if I add azureus to torrent(which i did not install from repo) just the word "azureus" appears in open with option and not "Azureus".
[02:03] <tarelerulz> So any of you  use hurd and if so what do you think of it as a kernel ?
[02:03] <LjL> cherva: using the 386 kernel is generally not a good idea, and that's what you're using. i can't be sure, but i quite think it's related to the nvidia problem.
[02:03] <cherva> LJL: removeing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386
[02:03] <jrib> sivaji_2009: you are "sivaji" right?
[02:03] <HYPOCRISY> hello
[02:03] <pjesi> LjL: must be some some package mismatch on our systems
[02:03] <Huffalump> Anyone able to help with Gparted?  Trying to resize an existing Vista partition, but gparted is reporting it as "unallocated" space.
[02:03] <LjL> pjesi: you on feisty?
[02:04] <sivaji_2009> yes
[02:04] <LjL> cherva: that is when doing what?
[02:04] <pjesi> LjL: no, edgy
[02:04] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16793/
[02:04] <jrib> th3e: because you're azureus doesn't have a proper .desktop file installed, why not use the repo version?
[02:04] <sivaji_2009> jrib yes
[02:04] <fiery_cleric> Huffalump: what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda give u?
[02:04] <HYPOCRISY> tell me
[02:04] <compwiz18> Anyone able to help with fglrx on Feisty?
[02:04] <cherva> LjL: in grub there also is the generic kernel should i use it instead of 386 ?
[02:04] <Erebus> Anyone know how I can set wine up to use a proxy?
[02:05] <eztk> http://www.ralree.info/2007/3/22/huge-mistake-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-herd-5
[02:05] <christine_> i want to do is i want to hide the gnome-panel every time i run mythtv frontend. can somebody give me an idea how to this?
[02:05] <th3e> jrib: it crashes all the time and also there is no updating possible.
[02:05] <LjL> cherva: correct
[02:05] <tarelerulz> The repo version my not be the newest version of azureus . That is why I don't all ways go with the repo myself
[02:05] <jrib> th3e: did you file bugs?
[02:05] <henk1> Hi, does anyone ecountered a strange problem with the desktop cd not starting X with the error "could not open default font fixed"
[02:05] <LjL> cherva: don't remove the other kernel yet though - you never know
[02:05] <Horscht> brb, gotta make me something to eat
[02:05] <cypher1> reiki, what does your fstab says
[02:05] <LjL> pjesi: well i'm on feisty, maybe some python differences
[02:05] <pjesi> perhaps
[02:05] <ajehuk> henk1 - yes but only ever with an installed X server not with a live CD
[02:05] <Huffalump> fiery_cleric just a moment!
[02:05] <cherva> LjL: ok before i reboot showld i install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[02:06] <Erebus> Anyone know how I can set wine up to use a proxy?
[02:06] <th3e> th3e: no but there are a lot of similar complains in the forums
[02:06] <Boffin> Hello. I cannot connect to the internet from kubuntu pc through windows machine :( Can anybody help please!
[02:06] <ch1ll4> .xs4all.nl
[02:06] <LjL> cherva: it didn't get installed by default when installing linux-generic? yes, install it
[02:06] <ajehuk> Erebus - for all tcp traffic?
[02:06] <LjL> cherva: do also a  dpkg --get-selections | grep linux  and paste it before rebooting
[02:06] <jrib> th3e: the easiest way is for you to either grab .desktop from the repo version or create your own .desktop file
[02:06] <Huffalump> petermc1
[02:06] <Huffalump> peteremc1
[02:06] <th3e> jrib: ok will try that.
[02:07] <th3e> jrib: thnaks. see you later.
[02:07] <Erebus> ajehuk, yes - but specifically, i am running World of Warcraft ... on windows I used sockscap
[02:07] <delire> beerockxs: i read of another person having the same problem but can't find the article, or how he/she fixed it.
[02:07] <cherva> LjL: ok installing linux-generic now paste bin will come in a sec
[02:07] <beerockxs> delire: hmm.
[02:07] <beerockxs> google to the rescue, I guess
[02:07] <n00bie> !XGl
[02:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:07] <ytsestef> hello! i have troubles getting amarok to work in ubuntu feisty (x86), flac is not supported while, when i load an mp3 file it just hangs
[02:07] <rellik> my sound is somewhat broken since the update. I have a playlist in amarok, but (literally) every other file fails to play.  the equalizer bars dance around, as if the song were playing, but there is no sound
[02:08] <chowmeined> aha i figured out
[02:08] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16795/
[02:08] <henk1> ajehuk: Well I don't get it shouldn't be happening
[02:08] <cherva> LjL: reboot now ?
[02:08] <sivaji_2009> jrib ple help me
[02:08] <LjL> pjesi: yikes btw hold on a second... not that this will likely solve anything, but i didn't pay attention to the fact that there's a "debian" directory in there. that means it's ready (or being made ready) to be packaged
[02:08] <jrib> sivaji_2009: I am searching, patience :)
[02:08] <Erebus> Anyone know how I can set wine up to use a proxy?
[02:08] <chowmeined> has anybody else experienced this problem? On the ubuntu 7.04 alternate cd when making lvm logical volumes the installer hangs for about 2 minutes for each volume being created?
[02:09] <sivaji_2009> jrib ok
[02:09] <chowmeined> its a really serious problem
[02:09] <ytsestef> chowmeined, this is a known issue you're talking about. see the release notes
[02:09] <chowmeined> ytsestef: ah, thank you
[02:09] <LjL> cherva: i'd say it looks look, boot linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic and if you're left without a GUI for some reason, remember you can install irssi to get on IRC
[02:09] <ubunt1> hi
[02:09] <ubunt1> i have ubuntu 7
[02:10] <RandomizeR> my nvidia card is acting weird, xorg.0.log says something about "too many errors, falling back to legacy driver" and anything with hardware acceleration closes right after opening :-/
[02:10] <Lukemob> Do I need to do something, if I want to add HDD?
[02:10] <RandomizeR> nvidia 5200, using feisty but had the problem since edgy
[02:10] <ubunt1> RandomizeR what model is your video card
[02:10] <pjesi> LjL: it doesn't look like much in that directory
[02:10] <roberto-7> hi all
[02:10] <RandomizeR> at first i thought it was a problem with my system, but i just did a clean install and it's still there
[02:10] <Stormx2> Is there a gtk based database management system? Like Microsoft Access of Kexi?
[02:10] <trol0s> anyone know how to change the port used by the integrated BitTorrent client?
[02:11] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: hmmm,did you install it correct.
[02:11] <rellik> my sound is somewhat broken since the update. I have a playlist in amarok, but (literally) every other file fails to play.  the equalizer bars dance around, as if the song were playing, but there is no sound
[02:11] <ajehuk> Erebus - I'm not all that familiar with how wine handles its networking, but I assume it simply passes everything off to the host, in which case I would look at configuring it within linux using an application-level proxy - thats about as much as I can suggest though - I have no other ideas...
[02:11] <RandomizeR> followed the guide
[02:11] <ytsestef> ello! i have troubles getting amarok to work in ubuntu feisty (x86), flac is not supported while, when i load an mp3 file it just hangs
[02:11] <ubunt1> rellik did you try vlc
[02:11] <yannick_> nick nikkie13
[02:11] <delire> beerockxs: yes, i'm afraid that will be the case.
[02:11] <trol0s> lot's of ppl repeating themselves here :P
[02:11] <roberto-7> i have a number of problems on desktop- effects on ubuntu7.4. is this the right place to ask questions?
[02:11] <jrib> sivaji_2009: do you understand bash?
[02:11] <delire> beerockxs: is this a laptop?
[02:12] <ytsestef> in short: i can't play back any mp3 or flac or wav file in amarok!
[02:12] <Huffalump> trol0s, just go to the advance settings of your BitTornado
[02:12] <ubunt1> roberto-7: what happend
[02:12] <delire> ytsestef: can you play them in other applications?
[02:12] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: i followed the guide from the "!nvidia" link, so yeah i suppose it was installed correctly
[02:13] <yagami> Hi, folks. I have shared a directory on my smb server and i want users on another computer running Windows to login with user and password set on the smb server
[02:13] <ubunt1> roberto-7: i too have problems with effect in ubuntu 7,and i disable it,do you know that they are in beta.
[02:13] <leejohn> good day guys, i have a acer aspire 5570 with Intel ALC883 audio, i have a problem with sound anyone care to assist me, thanks a lot
[02:13] <roberto-7> i enable them.. sometine the desktop freezes completely!! no chanche to enter in any console on ctrl-alt bksp
[02:13] <yagami> but when i double click the link, it gives the permission denied error
[02:13] <reiki> anyone know how to change the label on a volume in Feisty?
[02:13] <trol0s> Huffalump: but I don't use that.. but the simple integrated one.. don't know if I have BitTornado
[02:13] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: hmmm,sometime the guide from nvidia are incorrect
[02:13] <ytsestef> delire: yes! amarok says there are no flac codecs. as for mp3, it pops up a message which asks me to install mp3 codecs and before i am able to click "yes" the application hangs
[02:13] <RandomizeR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16796/
[02:13] <Erebus> ajehuk: Thanks
[02:14] <Huffalump> trol0s, ubuntu default is BitTornado.  it pops up a window per torrent, right?
[02:14] <RandomizeR> that's the xorg.0.log file
[02:14] <beerockxs> delire: no, not a laptop. a desktop with a CRT and an LCD connected at the same time
[02:14] <beatrice> I have an AVI that VLC stops playing a few minutes in, even though I downloaded the whole thing. Is there a program to fix "broken" AVIs?
[02:14] <delire> ytsestef: right, that isn't good. is your system updated?
[02:14] <cherva> LjL: back online with gui
[02:14] <LjL> cherva: and nvidia-glx based gui?
[02:14] <ubunt1> beatrice: hmm i know to repair for windows
[02:14] <delire> beerockxs: ahah.. that's different. is it an ati card?
[02:14] <Huffalump> trol0s along the top of that small window is some blue, underlined links (I think 4).  One them is Settings/Preferences and it's in there you can set the ports (I stopped using it because I liked another one better)
[02:14] <cherva> LjL: i'll try in a sec
[02:14] <trol0s> Huffalump: yeah.. guess I'll look for BitTornado then =)
[02:14] <ytsestef> i have just installed ubuntu 7.04 (clean install) it is upadated, i mean it was released 2 days ago!!
[02:14] <ubunt1> beatrice: but i don't remember the program.
[02:15] <beerockxs> delire: yes, using the fglrx driver and the bigdesktop option
[02:15] <ubunt1> ytsestef: yes,and is it work,or not work.
[02:15] <jonah> hi guys having a bit of trouble, i deleted my default user to make a new one but now sudo and any admininstrative stuff not working
[02:15] <jonah> messed up somewhere
[02:15] <cherva> LjL: u got skype ?
[02:15] <jonah> the new user i made can't takeover as the main one it seems
[02:15] <LjL> cherva: no - and honestly i refuse to install that evil proprietary stuff :)
[02:15] <SoftIce> hi, anyone know of a vserver kernel for ubuntu feisty ? or should I still continue to use the edgy vserver kernel ?
[02:15] <ytsestef> ubunt1: what do you mean?
[02:15] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: right now, the login screen starts with white rectangles all over, and as i said, hardware acceleration doesn't work
[02:16] <Huffalump> trol0s, in case I wasn't clear.  You must have a torrent open at the time you want to modify the ports.  Counterintuitive for me, but that's how it works.
[02:16] <cherva> LjL : :)
[02:16] <delire> beerockxs: you'll need to look at support for TV out. can you paste you /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a pastebin?
[02:16] <cherva> LjL: restarting now
[02:16] <trol0s> Huffalump: yeah on the BitTornado client I guess? Cause this small simplistic client doesn't have any settings option
[02:16] <ubunt1> ytsestef: some  times after update is not working.
[02:16] <Huffalump> trol0s just a moment and I'll verify
[02:16] <trol0s> thanks mate
[02:16] <beerockxs> delire: uh, why tv out? In gnome, everything works fine, it's just gdm that's messed up. But yeah, I can pastebin it, give me second
[02:16] <delire> ytsestef: i don't know what to suggest here other than trying to install support for these codecs manually. look at the RestrictedFormats section of the help wiki
[02:16] <sivaji_2009> jrib yes
[02:16] <LjL> pjesi: i've been able to build a Debian source package
[02:16] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: did you try to see is there are disabled the options
[02:16] <xukun_> hi all
[02:16] <LjL> pjesi: probably won't compile just like it didn't compile manually, but
[02:16] <delire> beerockxs: how are you getting signal to the second monitor?
[02:17] <ubunt1> RandomizeR:  try nvidia-settings
[02:17] <pjesi> LjL: well it is a start
[02:17] <pjesi> LjL:  can you give my the command you used?
[02:17] <Huffalump> trol0s, the link says Prefs.  click it and it's in there.
[02:17] <chowmeined> ytsestef: are there any workarounds for it?
[02:17] <ytsestef> delire: i have the restricted package installed :(
[02:17] <ubunt1> nvidia for UBuntu or Linux they make it like windows,now you can see the temp of the video,agp how you can put and something more.;
[02:17] <velko> jonah, start from a live cd, edit /etc/passwd and change the user id and the group id for your new user to 1000 (default for your first user)
[02:17] <delire> beerockxs: does it have two VGA outs?
[02:17] <beerockxs> delire: I'm using the Mode2, HSync2, VSync2 and Pairmodes options of fglrx
[02:18] <delire> ytsestef: right
[02:18] <xukun_> when I boot from de feisty cd so I can install I get green/yellow screen en then it freezes, any suggestions please?
[02:18] <ataylor> hi. I just upgraded to 7.04, and my hard drives are a bit messed up... my ntfs partition (hda1) can no longer be mounted using "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" and I keep on getting the error "[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab"
[02:18] <LjL> pjesi: i went into debian/, edited changelog.in, and put 0.9.3 instead of @versionwhatever@, and saved it as changelog. (without the .in). then did the same with files.in.  then, *out* of the coral directory (i.e. in the parent), i did "dpkg-source -b coral-0.9.3"
[02:18] <beerockxs> it's dual dvi, and the CRT is connected via a dvi-vga adapter
[02:18] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: what am i looking for in nvidia-settings? nothing looks out of the ordinary
[02:18] <RandomizeR> everything looks like it's supposed to work, but it doesn't
[02:18] <LjL> pjesi: i somehow suspect that editing those files manually wasn't what they had in mind, but i don't know what tool is supposed to be used :)
[02:18] <trol0s> Huffalump: I don't think we're looking at the same client.. this small one only has three tabs, Download, Upload and Events
[02:18] <delire> beerockxs: ahah, i've experienced problems with this on a projector once.
[02:18] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: open terminal and write nvidia-settings
[02:18] <delire> beerockxs: paste your xorg.conf
[02:18] <ytsestef> chowmeined: workarounds for what?
[02:18] <Dave123> our install fest will be fun today....  we burned 30 copies of ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04 was just released and the servers are getting hit hard
[02:18] <SoftIce> hello? nobody use vservers, what is the story with vserver + ubuntu feisty?
[02:18] <Saelynh> bonjour
[02:19] <chowmeined> ytsestef: not having to wait 3 minutes for every lvm partition i make
[02:19] <ubunt1> chowmeined: try gparted
[02:19] <RandomizeR> yeah, that works, and i get the nvidia settings dialog, and i checked all the options, nothing out of the ordinary
[02:19] <ytsestef> chowmeined: the release notes suggest that you just wait and everthing will be alright ;)
[02:19] <beerockxs> delire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16797/
[02:19] <Huffalump> trol0s, sorry, I see that now. Must be new in Feisty, I never saw it in Edgy.  Yeah, I don't see any config options there... probably a line command thing.
[02:19] <ajehuk> ataylor - the error about the final newline is fairly self explanitory - just add a new line to the bottom of /etc/fstab.  your first issue we can resolve too - if you could post the output of 'sudo fstab -l'  and thecontents of /etc/fstab into a pastebin
[02:19] <delire> ytsestef: i don't know what to suggest. can you try to play an mp3 on the commandline with 'play file.mp3'?
[02:19] <chowmeined> ubunt1: there is no gparted in text mode installer
[02:19] <jonah> velko, am i ok doing that from DSL?
[02:19] <chowmeined> ytsestef: yes but.. im impatient...
[02:19] <ubunt1> chowmeined try gui mode
[02:20] <beerockxs> delire: the 2nd head device is just there to get rid of a warning, it doesn't actually do anything
[02:20] <chowmeined> ytsestef: and i generally make 8-10 partitions
[02:20] <barravince> hi how i can upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[02:20] <chowmeined> ytsestef: oh well..
[02:20] <[Jonne] > i want to upgrade to feisty, but the button to upgrade to feisty is gone in upgrade-manager. How do i get it back?
[02:20] <pjesi> LjL: ok I will try
[02:20] <chowmeined> ubunt1: gui mode doesnt support lvm
[02:20] <trol0s> Huffalump: hehe yeah that's what I was thinking as well.. thanks anyways tho ; )
[02:20] <velko> jonah, yes. every live cd will do it. the point is to get write access to /etc/passwd
[02:20] <cherva> LjL: no luck
[02:20] <Huffalump> trol0s, so I'd have to recommend using a new client.  There's qTorrent (which I don't use), BitTornado (which was the Edgy default) and kTorrent (which I use even though It requires using the KDE libraries).
[02:20] <ytsestef> chowmeined: heh, guess you have to be patient for once!
[02:20] <JoeUK> I'm having problems getting desktop effects working. I'm using Feisty and an ATI graphics card. Desktop fx hasnt worked since i enabled restricted drivers.
[02:20] <chowmeined> ytsestef: guess so
[02:20] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: in what version of UBuntu are you
[02:20] <jonah> velko, thanks i'll give it a go
[02:20] <RandomizeR> feisty, clean install
[02:20] <trol0s> Huffalump: someone should port over uTorrent : )
[02:21] <ubunt1> chowmeined: then that is bad.
[02:21] <thirdalbum> I have a question: There's a script that I want to add to my startup sequence on Edgy, so it will run before Xorg attempts to start. How might I do this? Thanks in advance if anyone knows :-)
[02:21] <Huffalump> trol0s, yes they should.  ktorrent is the closest, which is why I use it.
[02:21] <chowmeined> ubunt1: what is bad?
[02:21] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: it worked out of the box, but when i tried installing the nvidia drivers to get hardware acceleration, this happened
[02:21] <Kohlgarten> hello everybody. Is is possible to use network-manager with feisty and a RaLink 2500 wireless card?
[02:21] <ytsestef> delire: this is unfortunately an amarok related problem, mp3 and flac are playing without a hitch in any other app
[02:21] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: and the same problem was there on edgy, but i thought it was messed up that's why i did a clean install
[02:21] <cherva> LjL: same GLX error
[02:21] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: hmmm,go to systems then administration and restricted drivers manager
[02:21] <scanf> so, can I use a 'unitialized' symbol from another module to resolve the driDispatchRemapTable symbol in /usr/X11R6/lib/libOSMesa.so.4?
[02:21] <trol0s> Huffalump: I saw it was meant for the KDE desktop.. is it much work installing those libraries? worth it for just kTorrent?
[02:22] <LjL> cherva: what was the error there precisely?
[02:22] <ubunt1> chowmeined: that it don't supprt gui
[02:22] <delire> beerockxs: are you sure that the second monitor does 1152x864? also you might want to look into the Dont Zoom option.
[02:22] <JoeUK> RandomizeR: what problem are you having?
[02:22] <delire> ytsestef: right. perhaps there's an amarok channel?
[02:22] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: it has one entry, NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver
[02:22] <cherva> LjL not shure whait i'll make it again :)
[02:22] <beerockxs> delire: as I said, the setup is working fine at the correct resolutions in gnome, only in gdm is it messed up
[02:22] <ytsestef> yep, there is. a channel that no-one answers , hahaah
[02:23] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: and is it enabled
[02:23] <ytsestef> delire: that's a pity because i tried kubuntu and amarok is working great. the thing is i dont like kubuntu (or KDE in general)
[02:23] <LjL> pjesi, i hate to do this but
[02:23] <RandomizeR> JoeUK: nvidia driver doesn't work.. GeForece 5200, feisty; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16796/ <- xorg.0.log
[02:23] <LjL> !alien > pjesi    (pjesi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:23] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: yep, enabled
[02:23] <JoeUK> ah. im having problems with ATI drivers
[02:23] <JoeUK> its not letting me do desktop effects
[02:24] <Patric2> hey guys I have fresh installed feisty last night and I now have a few issues I would like to fix, when I log out my screen hangs? it just stays blank I then have to hold down the power button to turn the laptop off?? I hate that
[02:24] <InFlux> Hi guys, I need a bit of help, I install Windows Vista first, and then 7.04. Grub did not install correctly. I have edited the menu.lst and got Windows to load OK. However, when I try to load Linux it gives error 22. The question is how to I know which drive and partition 7.04 installed itself on?
[02:24] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: and glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled too
[02:24] <pjesi> LjL: I tried alien before I joined the channel
[02:24] <xukun_> I cant seem to install feisty, I get green/yellow screen at the last stage when it should start X. I have nvidia 5200 card with dual video and all this while using the boot cd
[02:24] <ytsestef> JoeUK: do you have the opensource drivers installed or the proprietary ones?
[02:24] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: and restricted driver is enabled and status "in use"
[02:24] <JoeUK> proprietary i belive
[02:24] <JoeUK> the ones from restricted drivers
[02:24] <jrib> sivaji_2009: ok, it seems that one of /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.*inst is calling update-fonts-dir incorrectly right?  I can't find the line that tries to use it incorrectly
[02:25] <ytsestef> JoeUK: these drivers do not work with AIGLX, you have to either install XGL, or the opensource drivers
[02:25] <InFlux> Vista is installed on (hd0,0)
[02:25] <JoeUK> how do i install the opensource drivers?
[02:25] <RandomizeR> ubunt1: if u look at the end of the xorg log file (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16796/), u'll see the line saying that it encountered too many errors
[02:25] <delire> beerockxs: ahah yikes, i didn't read that distinction. i have no idea why gdm is doing this. are there some gdm session files that contain screen geometry state that could be cleaned out.
[02:25] <RandomizeR> (WW) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA X driver has encountered too many errors.  Falling
[02:26] <RandomizeR> (WW) NVIDIA(0):     back to legacy PCI mode.
[02:26] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: i see it
[02:26] <velko> InFlux, instead of guessing look this information up using something like partition magic or the ubuntu partitioning tool
[02:26] <ytsestef> joeUK: they're copied when you install ubuntu, which means you just have to switch to them, by tweaking /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:26] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: but it encouter 8 agp
[02:26] <kbrooks> velko, there is a good alt to part magic
[02:26] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: moment.
[02:26] <mwe> RandomizeR: paste xorg.conf
[02:26] <delire> ytsestef: i don't use amarok so can't help there sorry. good luck. it sounds to me like amarok expects a kde related sound service to exist that doesn't, or is being overridden by another..
[02:26] <RandomizeR> mwe: ok
[02:26] <sivaji_2009> jrib : u r correct it is /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postinst just now i removed this corrupted file now  dpkg is alright thank you
[02:27] <Patric2> hey guys I have fresh installed feisty last night and I now have a few issues I would like to fix, when I log out my screen hangs? it just stays blank I then have to hold down the power button to turn the laptop off?? I hate that...
[02:27] <Huffalump> trol0s, unless your system is ancient, yes its worth it (I end up using a few other K-apps too, but ktorrent was the first and well worth it)
[02:27] <kbrooks> velko, gnome partition editor - aka gparted
[02:27] <kbrooks> !gparted
[02:27] <JoeUK> ytsestef: could you guide me through it? pvt so not to flood?
[02:27] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:27] <cherva> LjL: there is the xorg.0.log
[02:27] <ajehuk> InFlux - when you edited your menu.lst to get windows working I assume you did it with a live CD, if so can you use the live CD again, grab the output of fdisk -l and the content of menu.list and paste bin them? - also it would bee good if you could mount your / or /boot filesystems and add the output of /s (of /boot) to that pastebin...
[02:27] <ytsestef> delire: thanks for the try!
[02:27] <cherva> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16799/
[02:27] <bderwent> What's the best way to salvage a botched update? In the middle of a network distro update when installing packages update manager crashed and now I can't boot
[02:27] <velko> kbrooks, thank you. could you point InFlux in this direction please?
[02:27] <pjesi> LjL: did it build a .deb in your case? I just have a .dsc and an tar.gz archive
[02:27] <kbrooks> !gparted | InFlux
[02:27] <ubotu> InFlux: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:27] <rnd_> hi
[02:27] <trol0s> Huffalump: hehe I see :) thanks for the help!
[02:27] <mwe> bderwent: can't boot to safe mode either?
[02:27] <RandomizeR> (WW) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA X driver has encountered too many errors.  Falling
[02:27] <RandomizeR> (WW) NVIDIA(0):     back to legacy PCI mode.
[02:27] <kbrooks> InFlux, see message from ubotu
[02:27] <RandomizeR> oops, sry
[02:27] <LjL> pjesi: no, it did the same. building a .deb involves more steps, i'm trying, but honestly i'm mostly going by trial and failure (and half-following !packaging)
[02:28] <InFlux> velko, will gparted tell me what partition 7.04 is on? I can mount the the partition off the live CD, but I looked everywhere and I can find the parition info. like ie: hd2,4
[02:28] <jrib> sivaji_2009: wait, but that file probably needs to do something to correctly configure the package
[02:28] <Huffalump> trol0s - after ktorrent, the psychological barrier was broken.  frankly the KDE libs aren't resource heavy, so.... I ended up with some little games and other misc. rift raft.
[02:28] <bderwent> mwe: nope, I had to boot from the livecd
[02:28] <delire> ytsestef: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410511
[02:28] <RandomizeR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16800/
[02:28] <ubunt1> RandomizeR: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=4973&start=0
[02:28] <ajehuk> InFlux -- see my previous
[02:28] <mwe> bderwent: hmm
[02:28] <LjL> cherva: hm paste xorg.conf
[02:28] <mcscruff_> :O
[02:28] <mwe> bderwent: can you get internet access from the live-cd?
[02:28] <rnd_> Can anybody explain how to install feisty into another partition? I have tried but installation process exited and I do not know how to boot ubuntu
[02:28] <LjL> cherva: or rather, not
[02:28] <cherva> LjL : the only change is in the driver "nvidia"
[02:28] <bderwent> mwe: it's what I'm using now
[02:28] <sivaji_2009> jrib : what it is no more in my disk
[02:29] <mwe> bderwent: good
[02:29] <mwe> bderwent: then maybe you can chroot and finish the update
[02:29] <velko> InFlux, hd0 means the first hard disk, hd1 - the second. the number after the , is the partition number. for example hd0,0 means first hard disk, first partition (/dev/hda1)
[02:29] <LjL> cherva: i know, but i thought you might not have the GLX module enabled, but that was my mistake in reading the log
[02:29] <JoeUK> ytsestef: can you help me?
[02:29] <trol0s> Huffalump: maby I'll try the extremly bloated Azureus for a while first ^
[02:29] <Hess> Morning All.
[02:29] <SFA_AOK> hey, I have an Edgy install, with /home on its own partition. I want to install Feisty from the CD but am nervous that when the installer asks for a user's details and passwords, if i enter the username i have on my edgy system that it'll overwrite my home directory - can anyone advise me if this will/won't happen?
[02:29] <cherva> LjL: I tryed even without it no luck
[02:29] <mwe> bderwent: is the ubuntu partition mounted and mounted read/write?
[02:29] <McScruff> i want to try mandriva with mettise on kde, do i need the full 4gb dvd or can i just get the kde cdrom?
[02:29] <Steil> my cpu isn't really under any load....but its stuck at its highest clock speed (I have an AMD Athlon XP-M) under edgy it would only goto the highest clock speed under load and otherwise it'd be at half speed
[02:29] <Steil> any ideas?
[02:30] <Huffalump> trol0s, yuck.  I've had that on Ubuntu, Mac, and Windows.  uTorrent taught me to avoid Azureus whenever possible.
[02:30] <linoleum> I would like to know : is there a fixed package of nvidia-glx-new to work withe the 8800GTX now, or do we still need to do the wfb.so symlink workaround ?
[02:30] <rnd_> SAF_AOK: I have similar concern
[02:30] <bderwent> mwe: yes, the partition is mounted
[02:30] <rampmike> Hey guys. installed feisty yesterday. was fine. booted this morning and my window manager is not working. all apps have no frame around them....
[02:30] <cherva> LjL: i have to go out when i come back i'll see if you are here to continue thank for the help man
[02:30] <BeBraw> i managed to install feisty (amd64 version) but when i boot, it gives just blank screen. what could be the reason?
[02:30] <mwe> bderwent: I have to go for a few minutes but chroot is the keyword. I'll help you when I get back ...
[02:30] <LjL> cherva: anyway the key there is dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000043gl
[02:30] <jrib> sivaji_2009: at least keep an eye on bug 107687 for a proper fix
[02:30] <delire> McScruff: see #mandriva
[02:30] <LjL> cherva: find out what package is offending, and try reinstalling it
[02:30] <bderwent> mwe: alright I'll see what I can figure out
[02:30] <InFlux> velko, good info! I'll boot of gparted and see if it helps. Thanks :)
[02:30] <yachi> hello
[02:31] <cherva> LjL: how apt-get install libGLcore ?
[02:31] <ytsestef> JoeUK: unfortunately I am no linux expert... sorry. the only thing i can tell you is open the xorg.conf file as root (sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and go to the device section and change the line "driver" from "fglrx" to "ati", then save the file and restart X by pressing control+alt+backspace. when you login again you have the opensource drivers running, which should enable you to use aiglx
[02:31] <LjL> cherva: no - well unsurprisingly, the package containing that file is nvidia-glx
[02:31] <trol0s> Huffalump: hehe I know, I don't really like it.. but at least it's familiar and don't require major operations :)
[02:31] <Hess> Anyone know off the top of there heads how to get sound to come out on the usb headset instead of the speakers?