[12:15] <jhutchins> kruemel: They didn't all have the same options for key length either.
[12:15] <zimmo> maverick_ moment
[12:15] <kruemel> jhutchins: you dont understand me, my key is shorter then the one, the console whats to get.. but are there some paramater, which? i need it for wlan
[12:15] <nosredna> I thought those things needed a key of a certain length
[12:16] <nosredna> I thought there was a parameter to shorten the key legnth requred..
[12:16] <kruemel> well, i have a 13 charts key, how to change is into a larger one?!
[12:17] <jhutchins> kruemel: most keys have to be an exact number of digits when translated to binary.
[12:17] <kruemel> nosredna, yes i found something like: iwconfig wlan0 key 's:1234567890123'
[12:17] <kruemel> nosredna: but it doesnt work, perhaps another parameter?!
[12:17] <jhutchins> the hardware sometimes determines what it pads the key with to reach the right length.
[12:18] <fungos> hi, anybody solved the dsp busy problem with Enemy Territory ?
[12:18] <kruemel> jhutchins: well you can tell me something, but i cant do anything with your words, explain it to me..
[12:19] <nosredna> kruemel: hey... calm down, we are all volunteers here.
[12:19] <nosredna> you are not garunteed support.
[12:19] <jhutchins> kruemel: Trying to find examples, sorry.
[12:19] <maverick_> kruemel: I understand you...but are you sure you are using the right key encryption?
[12:19] <kruemel> nosredna: yeah im sorry ...
[12:20] <stdin> fungos: you can either try installing alsa-aoss and running the game with "aoss game" or do something like "killall artsd" before running the game
[12:20] <su-hoens> anyone here used mdadm?
[12:20] <kruemel> maverick: im sure, thats the right key, but im not sure, how to input the key...
[12:20] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.
[12:20] <maverick_> kruemel: am sure the key is right, am talking about the tyoe of the key is it WEP, WPA...you know
[12:20] <jhutchins> kruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.
[12:20] <maverick_> type*
[12:21] <fungos> stdin: I installed alsa-oss ... I cant find any alsa-aoss ...  what is that?
[12:21] <jhutchins> maverick_: iirc iwconfig can only set wep keys, you need wpa supplicant for wpa,
[12:21] <stdin> fungos: alsa-
[12:22] <kruemel> maverick: well i thought it is WEP, on Windwos it IS wep...
[12:22] <stdin> fungos: oops, it's alsa-oss yes
[12:22] <maverick_> jhutchins: Brilliant :D
[12:22] <fungos> stdin: ok, just tried aoss et  ...  doesnt worked...
[12:22] <nosredna> its WEP because WPA doesn't use something like that.
[12:22] <stdin> fungos: if it doesn't work with "aoss game" then you'll need to kill artsd before you run the game
[12:22] <nosredna> they use a real word or words that is generated into a passphrase
[12:23] <stdin> fungos: or at least get artsd to "suspend" (there is an arts control applet for kicker for that)
[12:23] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.
[12:23] <jhutchins> kruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.
[12:23] <maverick_> kruemel: where is you ssid
[12:23] <fungos> stdin: look this: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[12:24] <jhutchins> I could plug in my usb dongle and see, but a) I'd have to unplug my keyboard, and b) it usually locks the system when I take it back off agian.
[12:24] <jhutchins> You'd think it would be a no-brainer to make a USB keyboard also be a hub.
[12:24] <stdin> fungos: odd. I don't know why that happens
[12:24] <kruemel> jhutchins: that are 26 characters... i only need 13
[12:24] <fungos> ok, I will try some dcop command to arts
[12:25] <stdin> fungos: afaik arts doesn't have a dcop interface (or not one I can find)
[12:26] <kruemel> nosredna: the problem is, the iwconfig wants a key with the lengths of 26 characters, my key is only 13 charachters long... how to fix the problem?
[12:26] <fungos> stdin: I aways hated arts!
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: That's the problem.
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: Your hardware wants all 26 characters.
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try using fewer.
[12:27] <jhutchins> kruemel: see if it jumps to a smaller total if you set fewer of them.
[12:27] <kruemel> jhutchins: well i cant chankge the key...
[12:27] <cameron_> Is there anyway to get the kde desktop to look like ubuntu, like bringing the minimized windows down to the bottom?
[12:28] <nosredna> cameron_: yeah.
[12:28] <nosredna> kruemel: enter some cheesy samm key into iwconfig
[12:28] <nosredna> *small
[12:29] <cameron_> I already got the taskbar on the top, and shrunk, I just don't know how to get the minimized bar down, without taking the main taskbar down
[12:29] <jhutchins> kruemel: Why?
[12:29] <kruemel> jhutchins: somewhere you can read something about 108bit encryption and 64bit encryption oder something like that, but how to tell iwconfig it?
[12:29] <jhutchins> kruemel: That's just it, it's supposed to take it automatically from the length of the key, but some hardware doesn't allow short keys.
[12:29] <kruemel> nosredna: cheesy small key?! what do you mean
[12:30] <cameron_> 1234
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: Just to experiment with the hardware and see what it does.
[12:30] <nosredna> kruemel: we;re saying eneter some key about 5 characters instead of your 13 character code to see what iwconfig does
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: Also, are you using -s: or not?
[12:30] <kruemel> jhutchins: it must, i works with the pc lonng time on windwos, and it works...
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: ah, but you're not using the windows drivers, are you?  That's where the difference is.
[12:31] <jhutchins> kruemel: we know the short key won't work, we just want to see if you can have a smaller key.
[12:31] <kruemel> nosredna: sry but i cant change the key, so there is no aim..
[12:31] <kruemel> ahhh okay, wait
[12:31] <jhutchins> We also don't know if the key is in ascii or hex, because numerals are legal for both.
[12:32] <nosredna> hmm.. true... but its probably ascii becuase you WOULD see some letters in there if it were HEX
[12:33] <fungos> anybody knows what kind of error is this ?  ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[12:34] <matthew_> slow day today
[12:34] <kruemel> jhutchins | nosredna: so, when i save the key "1234" - he show following key "1234-0000-00" 12 charachters...
[12:34] <jhutchins> Wow!
[12:35] <kruemel> jhutchins: but now?!
[12:35] <underdog5004> I hate when I leave irc up on my home computer...
[12:35] <underdog5004> jhutchins: what?
[12:35] <jhutchins> kruemel: Ok, what's happening is that the key has to be a fixed number of characters.  We don't know for sure what the actual key is on the AP, because we don't know if it's hex or ascii, and we don't know if it's padded, or which end is padded.
[12:36] <kruemel> jhutchins: i think, he wants to have an integer, but "1234567890123" its a string...
[12:36] <jhutchins> kruemel: so when you set it with -s:, it doesn't work?
[12:36] <kruemel> where to put the -s? "iwconfig wlan0 key<PHONE_NUMBER>123 -s ?
[12:37] <jhutchins> no, iwconfig wlan0 key -s:1234567890123
[12:37] <kruemel> i check it
[12:38] <jhutchins> then iwconfig again to see if it picks up the ap.
[12:38] <nosredna> all the examples in "man iwconfig" have daskes speparating things...
[12:38] <jhutchins> nosredna: except -s
[12:39] <stdin> my iwconfig line, for reference "iwconfig ath0 essid linksys mode managed freq 2.437G channel 6 rate 54M key XXXXXXXXXX ap 00:18:39:XX:X:XX"
[12:39] <jhutchins> nosredna: -s means you are setting an ascii key, and to specify it you use a colon.
[12:39] <nosredna> ah, ok.
[12:40] <kruemel> jhutchins |nosredna: -s:123456789123 there is a error, but s:123456789123 worked, so he saved a key looking like 3325-3234-3523-3523-2356-4563-43 (26 characters, noe zeros) =)
[12:40] <jhutchins> kruemel: does it connect?
[12:41] <nosredna> kruemel: do you you still have your ESSID set correctly?
[12:41] <jhutchins> kruemel: that is the padded hex value converted from the numeric key.
[12:41] <kruemel> YEAH great, it works
[12:41] <kruemel> very big thanks to you two =)
[12:41] <jhutchins> Fantastiche!  Something we did must've worked!
[12:41] <nosredna> dhclient gives you a IP?
[12:42] <kruemel> dont know, but i open firefox - www.google.de - and it appeared
[12:42] <nosredna> ok!
[12:42] <kruemel> nosredna, do you have icq or so, for later problems? ;)
[12:43] <nosredna> kruemel: jabber.. or i'm on IRC in the mornings around 7-9 EST
[12:43] <nosredna> and later at night,like now
[12:43] <nosredna> kruemel: but there is ussually someone around to help.
[12:43] <hytleur> eiii
[12:43] <nosredna> like jhutchins :)
[12:43] <theverant> Anyone know if blue options in CompizConfig Settings Manager indicate a problem?
[12:43] <hytleur> ayudaaaaaaaaaa
[12:43] <jhutchins> I'm around intermittently from ~16:00 - ~22:00 GMT (I'm late!)
[12:44] <hytleur> helppppppppppppp
[12:44] <jhutchins> later dudes, I gotta go feed my horses.
[12:44] <kruemel> well what time is now by you?
[12:44] <nosredna> jhutchins: ok.
[12:44] <hytleur> ajutorrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:44] <jhutchins> !ask | hytleur
[12:44] <ubotu> hytleur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:44] <nosredna> kruemel: 6:45
[12:44] <kruemel> p.m. or a.m.?
[12:45] <hytleur> i whant to go in a chat and they tell me the jave is not installed on my computer
[12:45] <nosredna> kruemel: p.m.
[12:45] <hytleur> what i must to do !
[12:45] <jhutchins> hytleur: install it.
[12:45] <hytleur> how ?!
[12:45] <jhutchins> !es | hytleur
[12:45] <ubotu> hytleur: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:45] <Sanne> I might need to buy a lcd monitor for the first time sometime soon. Is there anything I need to be aware of regarding linux compatibility? I'm searching, but so far can't find any serious issues.
[12:45] <kruemel> nosredna, okay i will try it .. but icq would be better. never mind..
[12:45] <jhutchins> !java | hytleur
[12:45] <ubotu> hytleur: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:46] <nosredna> kruemel: don't have one.. sorry
[12:46] <kruemel> nosredna: msn? :P
[12:46] <nosredna> Sanne: not really... everything should work
[12:46] <nosredna> kruemel: nope... just gtalk
[12:46] <nosredna> or jabber in general
[12:46] <jhutchins> kruemel: If I'm not here, I'm not on chat either.
[12:46] <Sanne> nosredna: thanks for the confirmation :)
[12:46] <kruemel> nosredna: gtalk is that the googletalk?
[12:46] <kruemel> jhutchins: okay see you ;)
[12:47] <nosredna> Sanne: sometimes lage widscreen monitors don;t work
[12:48] <kruemel> well big thanks to you --> jhutchins --> nosredna, we will see again.. i go now, is late (00:48) ;)
[12:48] <serg> hi
[12:48] <nosredna> kruemel: you MAY have to run these commands again.. so remember them
[12:48] <Sanne> nosredna: ah, good to know. I'm looking at a 19 inch with 1280x1024, should be pretty common then, I think?
[12:48] <nosredna> hi
[12:48] <nosredna> oh yeah.. no problemo
[12:49] <kruemel> nosredna: well i typed them about 100times.. i know them ;)
[12:49] <nosredna> kruemel: ok:)
[12:49] <serg> somebody use nvidia drivers with 2.6.23-rc2 kernel ???
[12:49] <nosredna> oh man.. I LOVE the new KDE4 konsole
[12:49] <nosredna> serg: thats gutsy, no?
[12:50] <Sanne> thanks again nosredna :)
[12:50] <nosredna> kruemel: and yes, that i googletalk
[12:50] <kruemel> nosredna: but thanks, you were very freidnly, and im a big noob, so i like your patience
[12:51] <nosredna> kruemel: don't worry, you will learn :)
[12:51] <greywolf> hey guys
[12:51] <serg> i use manually build kernel
[12:51] <kruemel> nosredna: hehe i hope so ;)
[12:51] <serg> <IP_ADDRESS>-rt9
[12:51] <nosredna> kruemel: either you learn, or you stop using linux.. its that simple :)
[12:51] <greywolf> I've been having a horrible time with compiling from source as far as package dependencies go - right now I'm trying to compile Kino 1.1.1 from source (mostly because v.9 doesn't quite cut it ;]  ), and it keeps trying to tell me that I don't have the package "libdv," when I actually do - it's just that it's called "libdv4" in the package manager
[12:51] <serg> i know that
[12:52] <nosredna> serg: oh. maybe you should go over to # linux for general questions like that..
[12:52] <Sanne> greywolf: maybe you need the corresponding *-dev package also
[12:52] <nosredna> #linux
[12:52] <greywolf> Sanne:
[12:52] <serg> latesr nvidia module cannot build under 2.6.23-rc2 version
[12:52] <greywolf> Sanne: ok I'll try it
[12:52] <nosredna> serg: oh yeah, thats right... I hear d a report of that
[12:52] <serg> it build only under 2.6.22.x
[12:52] <nosredna> google it and you will find the solution.
[12:53] <Sanne> greywolf: as a rule, in ubuntu most packages are modular, you need to install the dev packages for compiling yourself.
[12:54] <kruemel> nosredna: i will learn1! ;)
[12:54] <greywolf> Sanne: :0
[12:54] <greywolf> it works!
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: cool, glad to hear that :)
[12:55] <zimmo> maverick_ are you there?
[12:55] <greywolf> wow I've wasted so much time >_<
[12:55] <nosredna> kruemel: ok. it will be fun learning too!
[12:55] <greywolf> Sanne: thanks a bunch
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: now you know :)
[12:55] <maverick_> zimmo: yep
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: you're welcome
[12:55] <greywolf> Sanne: heh, indeed
[12:55] <zimmo> maverick_ it is okay now, i burned my iso with the k3b itself
[12:55] <kruemel> nosredna: but you can say me your mail, for bigger problems, plzzzz :)
[12:57] <maverick_> zimmo: How did you solve the issue?
[12:57] <zimmo> well, kind of luck maybe
[12:58] <zimmo> i simply have tried again and it worked
[12:58] <maverick_> zimmo: you mean it wasn't burning for no reason?
[12:58] <zimmo> maverick_ virtually yes
[12:59] <underdog5004> zimmo: you may want to check the md5sum of the burned cd...
[12:59] <underdog5004> just in case
[12:59] <zimmo> underdog5004 it checks it before the burning but i will do it moment
[01:00] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone know of a gui for mounting iso's on linux? a friend just asked and I had no idea, its easy from the command line, but still...
[01:02] <elite101> urr kubuntu is not find my "D-link DWL-G510" PCI card or "ath1" and i can get it on the livecd?
[01:02] <elite101> finding*
[01:02] <maverick_> jussi01: there are many service menus that u can install from www.kde-apps.org
[01:03] <elite101> im on the livecd rite now but i did a re-install and it works for the first time? i restart the computer its not working?
[01:03] <jussi01> maverick_: any of those in our repo? (with out looking)
[01:03] <maverick_> no
[01:03] <elite101> there is a mac one i think
[01:03] <maverick_> jussi01: you have to dowwnload the source from there
[01:04] <maverick_> jussi01: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[01:04] <jussi01> maverick_: any reccomendations? good bad?
[01:04] <maverick_> yeah it doesn the job
[01:04] <maverick_> it mounts it in a folder in the media folder
[01:05] <kruemel> nosredna: are you there?
[01:05] <jussi01> maverick_: ok, sounds good:)
[01:05] <maverick_> jussi01: just by right clicking on the iso file and mounting it...everything would be done
[01:06] <jussi01> excellent, maybe someone should package something like this for the repos... ( I would if I wasnt being so lazy...)
[01:06] <kruemel> nosredna: well you can write me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i have to go now..
[01:06] <jussi01> hmmm
[01:07] <jussi01> !info gmountiso
[01:07] <ubotu> gmountiso: This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 116 kB
[01:07] <jussi01> bingo
[01:07] <jussi01> not native, but who cares right now
[01:07] <maverick_> jussi01: seems you found something useful
[01:07] <jussi01> :)
[01:08] <maverick_> feisty keeps surprising me
[01:08] <maverick_> :D
[01:10] <su-hoens> is there a way to install pidgin through adept?
[01:11] <maverick_> i guess by adding the right repos addres in sources.list
[01:11] <maverick_> i guess i have it
[01:11] <maverick_> wait a sec
[01:12] <su-hoens> thx
[01:12] <maverick_> su-hoens: http://www.google.com/search?q=pidgin+install+from+repos+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[01:12] <maverick_> sorry :s
[01:13] <maverick_> su-hoens: here it is http://www.kalpiknigam.com/blog/2007/05/12/install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-all-plugins/
[01:13] <fungos> where should I put commands to run on boot?
[01:13] <su-hoens> i add that to my source.list?
[01:14] <tapsin> 256 ADSL kullaniyorum suandaki download hizim 112 Kbit :D
[01:14] <tapsin> Arkadaslar ubuntu icin bi ag destek yazilimi buldum..
[01:14] <tapsin> hizinizi 3 katina cikariyor
[01:14] <tapsin> normal de windows da 25 kbit ile download yapacagim yerde suan da 112 ile yapiyorum
[01:14] <tapsin> :d
[01:15] <maav> hola
[01:16] <su-hoens> maverick_?
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: type this in your konsole
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: then           sudo aptitude update
[01:17] <maav> no soy maverick
[01:17] <su-hoens> er
[01:17] <su-hoens> maverick_ it says permission denied :X
[01:17] <maverick_> maybe you are opening adept
[01:17] <maverick_> close it
[01:18] <maverick_> maav: i guess it needs permission to edit sources.list
[01:18] <maav> no se que problema tengan, no me importa
[01:18] <su-hoens> maverick_ i added that to my list in adept
[01:18] <su-hoens> i'llt ry closing it and doing it by command line i guess
[01:18] <maav> chmod 777 sources.list
[01:19] <maav> ? bye
[01:19] <maverick_> su-hoens: i gave you a command line thta would add it automatically , it should work provided you close adpet just run this command: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <maverick_> then sudo aptitude update
[01:20] <maverick_> the install
[01:21] <su-hoens> maverick_ it says can't find package pidgin ?
[01:21] <maverick_> type this : aptitude search piding
[01:21] <maverick_> see if there are results
[01:22] <su-hoens> piding?
[01:22] <maverick_> pidgin*
[01:22] <su-hoens> doesn't come back with anything
[01:22] <maverick_> did you sudo aptitude update?
[01:22] <su-hoens> yes
[01:23] <maverick_> su-hoens: sorry here is the trick
[01:23] <maverick_> su-hoens: sudo apt-get install -y --allow-unauthenticated pidgin
[01:24] <wers> how do I know what my video card is?
[01:25] <maverick_> su-hoens: any luck?
[01:25] <su-hoens> http://pastebin.se/27683
[01:26] <su-hoens> maverick_
[01:27] <maverick_> su-hoens: to tell you the truth i compiled it from source...was just trying to help you in your request if this doesn;t work then i really recommend that you compile it from source too...though it should have worked
[01:28] <su-hoens> maverick_ ok
[01:28] <su-hoens> thought stuff was supposed to be done through apt-get in kubuntu... that's what i was about to do anyway
[01:29] <maverick_> apt-get or aptitude
[01:29] <maverick_> both do the job
[01:29] <cameron_> what do you people reccomend for creating iso's, burning them?
[01:29] <Soutane> I use k3b.
[01:29] <maverick_> su-hoens: anyway, give this thing a final shot http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[01:30] <cameron_> any video making/editing software?
[01:30] <`Xera`> Hey :)
[01:30] <`Xera`> How easy is it to get the ATI 1900XT running in Kubuntu?
[01:31] <Stranger1231> guys, why do i get an impression that english-speaking community is friendlier than the russian?
[01:31] <maverick_> su-hoens: run this command after adding the required repos before executing sudo apt-get update  ...................   : wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:31] <wonko__> ^^
[01:31] <cameron_> because it probibly is... ;)
[01:31] <Stranger1231> :)
[01:32] <tank> anyone know why when I connect to server > FTP to my website > I cant edit files? its all read only?
[01:32] <cameron_> log in as admin
[01:32] <Soutane> Stranger1231: we haven't had as much vodka as they.
[01:32] <tank> its not my server....
[01:32] <Soutane> If it's not yours, why do you want to edit files on it?
[01:33] <cameron_> Warez! 0_0
[01:33] <cameron_> lol
[01:33] <tank> well it is mine...but I cant login as admin...
[01:33] <tank> no lol
[01:33] <cameron_> lol
[01:33] <Stranger1231> Soutane: i probably had enough, but still it didn't afeect the way i communicate with people )
[01:33] <tank> so any ideas?
[01:33] <su-hoens> how do i get XML::Parser the perl module?
[01:34] <cameron_> um, are you hosting it yourself?
[01:34] <tank> it seems like some of the time I can edit the files...some of the time my password that I know is correct doesnt work...and 1\8 everything works fine
[01:34] <tank> nope
[01:34] <tank> all I want to do is FTP into my webhosts server lol
[01:34] <cameron_> It may just be the server
[01:34] <tank> seems simple :P
[01:34] <tank> ya thats true...
[01:35] <cameron_> what ftp program do u use, or do u access it from a browser?
[01:35] <Soutane> Are you able to download the files to your local box, edit them locally, and upload them to the server, overwriting what was already there?
[01:35] <tank> I used went to places > connect to server
[01:35] <Soutane> Cause that's what I have to do with mine.
[01:36] <tank> ya I think that what I have to do too
[01:36] <cameron_> o
[01:36] <tank> it would be nice if I could just open - edit and than save
[01:36] <cameron_> ya, probibly, I think it's the server, or, uim, the server... lol
[01:36] <tank> ok
[01:36] <tank> thanks
[01:36] <cameron_> are they text files?
[01:37] <cameron_> I don't think you can use ftp like a local hard-drive
[01:37] <Stranger1231> guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?
[01:39] <tank> I see I was trying to use the server connect thing locally like a hard-drive
[01:39] <tank> doesnt work that why...
[01:39] <tank> it should :P
[01:40] <tank> this room is way to hot...
[01:40] <tank> uhh as in the room I'm in...that the channel lol
[01:41] <tank> its like 90 in here
[01:41] <moody> dlaczego jak wpisuj w powoce polecenia rpm albo make to mi zwraca - polecenie nieznane ?? ;/
[01:42] <boris_> do anyone knows any good page for torrents
[01:42] <moody> mininova.org
[01:43] <boris_> moody
[01:43] <boris_> is there good music
[01:43] <moody> wassup boris ?
[01:43] <moody> ya , i think so
[01:43] <boris_> like old rock
[01:44] <moody> yes ,
[01:44] <boris_> lynard skyinards
[01:44] <moody> i don't know
[01:44] <moody> look there
[01:44] <boris_> ok, thanks
[01:45] <su-hoens> has anyone here installed XML::Parser?
[01:45] <greywolf> su-hoens: yeah, I have
[01:46] <aguitel> anyone know how install firefox in kubuntu ?
[01:46] <Stranger1231> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:47] <AstroGirl> Can anyone tell me how to create a symlink between two places, please? My efforts so far "ls -s /home/me/Media /mnt/linux/me/Media" doesn't seem to work. :(
[01:47] <aguitel> can enable this with  Adept ?
[01:47] <Stranger1231> i guess
[01:47] <greywolf> aguitel: yeah, just search for firefox
[01:47] <boris_> do anyione haves Lyinard skyinards
[01:47] <boris_> cd
[01:47] <boris_> Lynard Skynards
[01:47] <Stranger1231> adept sucks, install synaptic
[01:47] <boris_> or video
[01:48] <aguitel> how install synaptic?
[01:48] <Stranger1231> same way) apt-get install synaptic
[01:48] <AstroGirl> Oops, I mean't ln -s
[01:48] <AstroGirl> Either way, it doesn't work for me.
[01:48] <Stranger1231> what does it say&
[01:48] <Stranger1231> ?
[01:48] <moody> does anybody know where is polish ubiuntu channel ?
[01:49] <AstroGirl> one tic
[01:49] <aguitel> thankz
[01:49] <fkm> Stranger1231: Why does Adept suck?
[01:50] <moody> hallooo
[01:50] <moody> where is poland :P
[01:50] <Stranger1231> synaptic is just better
[01:51] <AstroGirl> I answered my own question. I wrote ls -s.. :p :p thanks anyways. :)
[01:51] <fkm> I agree that the search in Synaptic might be an advantage for slow computers
[01:51] <greywolf> moody: #ubuntu-pl
[01:52] <aguitel> one question ,how i know if my  wireless network is working ?
[01:52] <moody> thx greywolf
[01:52] <greywolf> moody: sure
[01:52] <moody> [01:52]  [Informacje]  Szukanie serwera #ubuntu-pl:6667...
[01:52] <moody> [01:52]  [Bd]  Connection to Server #ubuntu-pl lost: wyszukiwanie nazwy nie powiodo si. Trying to reconnect.
[01:52] <fkm> aguitel: If you're still online when you unplug your ethernet cable ;)
[01:52] <moody> wattafak ?
[01:52] <greywolf> moody: it's a channel ;)
[01:53] <moody> ok , it's on :P
[01:53] <greywolf> moody: not another server
[01:53] <greywolf> heh
[01:53] <moody> sure
[01:53] <Stranger1231> guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?
[01:54] <aguitel> fkm,windows have network light below in the bar
[01:55] <Angelus> hello i just saw a site, does ubuntusatanic really exist?
[01:55] <navets> does anyone here know of good VoIP software for linux?
[01:55] <moody> omg
[01:56] <Stranger1231> Angelus: i've seen it too
[01:56] <Stranger1231> somewhere)
[01:56] <fkm> aguitel: What windows? And do you use KNetworkManager or something else?
[01:56] <Angelus> did you try it?
[01:57] <Stranger1231> no, i never got it
[01:57] <wers> with kpackage and rpm installed, does that mean that I can install rpms without using alien?
[01:57] <Stranger1231> seen screenshots too, nothing special
[01:57] <Angelus> no, you must use alien
[01:57] <Angelus> yeah
[01:57] <Angelus> i saw the screen shots
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> wers: where did you get rpm for debian?
[01:57] <Angelus> they look nice
[01:57] <Stranger1231> ^)
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> screenshots of what?
[01:58] <Stranger1231> satanic and all?=)
[01:58] <wers> rpm from the official repositories I gues
[01:58] <Theory> wers: you may be able to install packages. It is possible (but very unlikely) the things you install will even work. it will certainly result in breaking your system somewhere down the line when you try to update
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> wow.. I didn't know it was in there. I would think using it would be dangerous to say in the least
[01:59] <Angelus> nosrednaekim: ubuntu satanic edition
[01:59] <Angelus> :|
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> oh!.... I LOVE the login screen for that!
[01:59] <wers> Theory, I guess, I wouldn't bother installing rpms with KPackage
[02:00] <wers> has anyone here tried kpackage? It looks good to me.. I wonder why Adept is the default gui installer instead of kpackage
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> because adept is better for apt.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> I think kpackage is more of a general-use thing.
[02:01] <wers> oooh.. and it seems that it is dangerous for non-debs
[02:01] <Stranger1231> what's the default installe in debian? adept?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> synaptic I believe, maybe aptitude
[02:02] <wers> I don't know with debian, but for Sidux (debian sid), it's kpackage
[02:02] <lufthanza> Stranger1231: apt-get no doubt
[02:02] <Stranger1231> :)
[02:02] <Theory> kubuntu seems to favour adept
[02:02] <AstroGirl> I'm having trouble with the symlink again. I'm trying to use it with Ktorrent, but Ktorrent doesn't seem to know how much of the files have been downloaded through the symlink.
[02:02] <AstroGirl> Should I have done something else?
[02:03] <wers> If i'm not mistaken, Adept is sponsored by canonical
[02:03] <wers> I seem to read about it somewhere
[02:03] <lufthanza> Theory: thats because adept is kde/qt based, while synaptic requires gnome and gtk libs
[02:03] <lufthanza> gnome libs*
[02:05] <wers> Adept Manager is a GUI to the Advanced Packaging Tool for KDE. Adept is developed by Peter Rokai and is sponsored by Canonical Ltd. through the Kubuntu project. Current release is 2.1.-Wikipedia
[02:06] <boris_> lynard skynards
[02:07] <fkm> Stranger1231: Kubuntu changed from Synaptic to Adept. Debian in general doesn't have a default GUI as far as I know. So I guess yoou could say APT-GET is the default. But I think that's not what you wanted to know
[02:07] <Sanne> wers: everything in kubuntu's kde is sponsored by canonical through the kubuntu project. So is everything that is in ubuntu's gnome.
[02:07] <navets> hey if somebody here wouldnt mind taking a look at my website and telling me how I could improve on things website is http://navetz.com
[02:07] <boris_> i need good download page
[02:07] <Stranger1231> fkm, thanks)
[02:08] <fkm> You're welcome :)
[02:08] <fkm> navets: Take out the background pictures :P
[02:09] <Stranger1231> does anyone know how to change the types of documents, which u can create by right-clicking either on the desktop or in any folder?
[02:09] <Stranger1231> cause i have options there like "kword document", though i don't even have it installed )
[02:09] <navets> fkm: awww i thought the background was cool
[02:10] <fkm> Well, let's say it's a question of taste. And I'm one of those over idealistic webdeveloppers ;)
[02:11] <Sanne> navets: try to get rid of validation errors, and I would really recommend to use the strict doctype for new websites. Also check out #web and #css for specific help. Validation result: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fnavetz.com%2F
[02:11] <boris_> here is no rock fans
[02:11] <boris_> ;(
[02:13] <aguitel> wers,if i will install synaptic ,can i  manage my update with it?
[02:13] <wers> of course, aguitel
[02:13] <navets> Sanne: i have only been doing this for about a month, so im not even to sure what the doctype does but I will definatly look into it
[02:13] <wers> but what's the point?
[02:13] <aguitel> thanks
[02:13] <wers> adept works and it's QT
[02:14] <Stranger1231> i guess it's just a matter of taste
[02:15] <boris_> linard
[02:15] <wers> aguitel, it's just that, I don't think synaptic will come out of your system tray to notify you about updates
[02:15] <Sanne> navets: ok, then your HTML is not bad for a beginner :) I find this site a nice reference if you're starting out: http://www.htmldog.com/ And now we're definitely getting offtopic :)
[02:16] <aguitel> ok
[02:16] <aguitel> Adept yes
[02:16] <stdin> wers: well, actually it will
[02:17] <navets> Sanne: haha thanks alot for the help, I will look into this
[02:17] <boris_> RGISTER linard
[02:17] <Sanne> navets: you're welcome :)
[02:17] <wers> !linard
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <boris_> REGISTER linard
[02:17] <wers> I guess ubotu does not know music
[02:17] <wers> haha
[02:17] <boris_> ahahha
[02:18] <level1> Hi, when I installed with the alternate install cd, it asked for my wireless password and somehow found my wireless network.  Now knetworkmanager doesn't have any options availiable, but somehow I'm able to be on the internet
[02:18] <boris_> but it will
[02:18] <wers> !Megadeth
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about megadeth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <level1> anyway, I want to fix that so I can choose which networks I connect to
[02:18] <Sanne> !botabuse
[02:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:18] <boris_> hahah
[02:18] <level1> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <boris_> i need to register somewer
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> level1: knetworkmanager is quite buggy... you can use wlassistant
[02:18] <wers> sorry
[02:20] <boris_> i will pay 100 yero
[02:20] <boris_> for lynard skynards
[02:20] <boris_> old cocertz
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> !register | boris_
[02:20] <ubotu> boris_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:21] <level1> nosrednaekim: can wlassist be run as a panel applet?
[02:21] <wers> level1, I don't think so
[02:22] <aguitel> one question,is kubuntu stable like ubuntu gnome?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> level1: hmm.. no
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: certainly
[02:23] <boris_> !register | boris_
[02:23] <wers> level1, if you want dock wlassistant with kdocker ;)
[02:23] <byteshack> how can I set kdm to be the default? gdm is taking over right now?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> byteshack "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[02:24] <aguitel> root_ ,hola
[02:24] <level1> wers: how do you use kdocker?
[02:24] <byteshack> nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> byteshack: NP.
[02:25] <wers> level1, install it, then when you run it, your mouse cursor will change. With that cursor, select the app to dock
[02:26] <stdin> boris_: to register your nickname look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:26] <wers> level1, if you want to monitor your network, I guess knetworkmonitor will do.. I am just not sure if that is the name of the app
[02:26] <alex__> NamShub: evo3
[02:27] <alex__> ngon vaken ?
[02:27] <alex__> anybody awake ?
[02:27] <boris_> stdin,, what do i do now
[02:27] <stdin> boris_: follow those instructions
[02:27] <level1> why is it almost half the time programs run with kdesu just don't run?
[02:28] <Soutane> level1: try using sudo instead.
[02:28] <stdin> level1: NO don't
[02:28] <stdin> sudo is for command line apps, not GUIs
[02:29] <level1> Soutane: wow, you should know that
[02:29] <Soutane> Well, it would explain why kdesu isn't working for him if he's trying to run command line apps, wouldn't it?
[02:29] <boris_> it says thet my pasword is incorect
[02:30] <boris_> stdin
[02:30] <stdin> no, kdesu can run command line apps too, with no trouble. just sudo shouldn't be uses to run GUIs
[02:30] <stdin> boris_: have you registered ?
[02:30] <level1> Soutane: anyway, I'm talking about gui apps
[02:30] <boris_> no
[02:31] <level1> stdin: basically, the program just doesn't start.  I get the launch feedback but it doesn't actually work
[02:31] <stdin> boris_: you need to register before you identify
[02:31] <Sanne> level1: sometimes kdesu won't run if you just used sudo before. It has to do with the sudo timestamp that confuses kdesu. 'sudo -k' resets the timestamp and lets kdesu run again.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> level1: yeah, I know what you are saying.... ussually its TK apps for me though
[02:31] <stdin> level1: I think it just happens sometimes with kdesu
[02:31] <level1> hmmm... you'd think that this would be worthy of a bug report
[02:32] <stdin> level1: there may be a bug report on it, if not then defiantly report it
[02:32] <Sanne> level1: IIRC it is already reported... I think I have the worjaround from a bug at launchapd.
[02:32] <klobster> stdin: defiantly is the _only_ way to log bugs ^.^
[02:33] <wers> why is that, when I was to apt-get remove bittorrent, it wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?
[02:33] <boris_> i tipe register pasword, but it would not work
[02:33] <boris_> stdin
[02:33] <Theory> wers: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, allowing people to easily install all the packages needed to have a featureful desktop
[02:34] <Theory> it does this by depending on lots of other packages, include bittorrent
[02:34] <stdin> wers: because gnome-btdownload depends on bittorrent and ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-btdownload
[02:34] <wers> yep, so how do I uninstalll bottorrent without removin ubuntu-desktop?
[02:34] <level1> thats weird... why does the launchpad timeout error page  recomend that I tell them about the error?   Why don't they just have the server register the error and look at the reports?
[02:34] <stdin> boris_: you type "/msg NickServ REGISTER PutYourPasswordHere"
[02:35] <stdin> wers: you can't
[02:35] <Sanne> level1: kdesu bug is reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kdebase/+bug/50971
[02:35] <boris_> NickServ- The nickname [boris_]  is already registered
[02:35] <boris_> stdin
[02:35] <wers> isn't it ironic that the metapackage, ubuntu-desktop, depends on a package such as gnome-bitdownload?
[02:35] <jhutchins> wers: ubuntu-desktop isn't really a package, it's a meta package that lists as dependencies all of the packages that make up the ubuntu desktop.
[02:35] <stdin> boris_: then you have to pick another name
[02:36] <boris_> how
[02:36] <Theory> installing ubuntu-desktop will not take away your desktop
[02:36] <Theory> *uninstalling
[02:36] <jhutchins> wers: So if you remove a package that it "requires", you remove it too.  All of your other packages stay though.
[02:36] <jhutchins> wers: Since they're in the apt database, they'll get normal upgrades and such.
[02:36] <wers> so that means that even if I uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, my gnome packages will stay?
[02:37] <Theory> yes
[02:37] <Theory> (you might want to avoid doing autoremove afterwards though)
[02:37] <stdin> wers: you will need to reinstall it when you upgrade to the next version of ubuntu though
[02:37] <jhutchins> wers: I'm not absolutely positive that if you explicitly remove ubuntu-desktop, but I know that if it's removed because you remove something else it doesn't do anything.
[02:37] <stdin> (or it is HIGHLY reccommended)
[02:37] <wers> okay.. do you know how I set Ktorrent as my default bottorrent client instead of bittorrent?
[02:38] <jhutchins> wers: get a torrent file or create one on your local machine.  Right-click on that file and choose "Open With".  There will be a checkbox to remember the file association.
[02:38] <jhutchins> wers: That's the easy way.
[02:38] <aguitel> what about Beryl in kubuntu desktop?
[02:39] <wers> Yeah, i know that, but I want to change the default client
[02:39] <wers> i guess, i will just remove bittorrent
[02:39] <stdin> wers: right click the torrent file, Open With -> Other > Remember application association for this type of file
[02:39] <wers> thanks, stdin! :)
[02:40] <wers> has anyone here successfully synced a pocket pc with Kubuntu Feisty?
[02:40] <wers> there is a known bug that synce-kde does not work with feisty and it has been about three months since I started trying to find a workaround
[02:41] <jhutchins> wers: That will change the default, or you can go in through the settings and change the file association there.
[02:41] <wers> what settings jhutchins? in kcontrol?
[02:42] <raymond> how do i make it so clicking the middle button on my mouse in firefox opens links in a new tab?
[02:42] <wers> all along,  it's in file associations! haha.. I have done this for dolphin before
[02:43] <klobster> so my system randomly locked up last night, and then today locked up at the kde login prompt, and when it rebooted showed several fsck errors ( inodes multiply attatched, lost chains, etc), and this time it did boot, but it it took a long time to get to the login screen.  Anyone know how I can diagnose this?
[02:43] <jhutchins> wers: I think it's something like helper applications in konqueror.
[02:43] <wers> I managed to do it in kcontrol
[02:44] <wers> it's also much faster their because of the search feature
[02:44] <aguitel> where is kcontrol?
[02:44] <jhutchins> wers: settings/file associations.
[02:44] <wers> alt+f2 then enter kcontrol
[02:45] <wers> jhutchins, I just used the search feature in kcontrol. that's why I prefer it over system settings
[02:45] <Sanne> klobster: I would start with a memory test, there's one on the desktop cd (memtest). Let it run for a few hours.
[02:45] <jhutchins> The right-click method is easier when it's something like a sound file and you want to change a whole range of associated extensions.
[02:46] <klobster> sanne: there is one at the bootup screen in grub as well, no?
[02:47] <Sanne> klobster: there is, but I would think it better to use an external test... since something in your system might be broken. Just to eliminate that possibility.
[02:48] <klobster> it was strange.  at one point I could switch to a tty screen,but after I entered my username it would hang before it even asked for a password
[02:48] <klobster> Sanne: ok, I will try the disc.
[02:48] <wers> wow.. I just found a katapult-like open source app for windows--> http://www.launchy.net/
[02:48] <wers> wonderful
[02:48] <Sanne> klobster: I also had some weird issues once that turned out to be bad memory.
[02:49] <Sanne> klobster: good luck!
[02:49] <MVBox2> hi all
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:49] <cameron_> where do I get mp3, wma, flac decoders for Amorak?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> cameron_: "libxine-extracodecs"
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> for mp3 at least
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> wma might also be in there... but i'm not sure
[02:50] <cameron_> checking...
[02:51] <MVBox2> i can't save any new configrtion's , can i do that using command line or ssh ?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> cameron_: thats a package BTW, not a site
[02:52] <MVBox2> any advice ?
[02:52] <cameron_> IU know, I'm getting it's then going to tell u if it works
[02:53] <saki_knin>  /msg NickServ REGISTER forticaknin
[02:53] <wers> has anyone her successfully installed katapult fast track? it looks like a good app but is hard to install
[02:54] <saki_knin>  /msg NickServ REGISTER forticaknin
[02:55] <rodrigo> any one of you can tell me how to installl a spanish dictionary to check the sepelling in that language with open office?
[02:56] <rodrigo> or kword?
[02:56] <Aranel> saki_knin: hey, i think u must change your password :)
[02:56] <saki_knin> yea
[02:57] <saki_knin> i will go locko
[02:57] <saki_knin> ili popizdi cu
[02:57] <saki_knin> :9
[02:57] <saki_knin> :)
[02:58] <saki_knin> stdin, i have register
[02:58] <saki_knin> evryone knows my pasword :9
[02:58] <saki_knin> stdin:
[02:58] <stdin> saki_knin: you can change it
[02:58] <saki_knin> how
[02:59] <saki_knin> but i need Lynard skynards
[02:59] <saki_knin> fuck the pasword
[03:00] <stdin> saki_knin: watch the language!
[03:00] <saki_knin> ok
[03:00] <saki_knin> sorry
[03:00] <stdin> saki_knin: to reset your pass /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD NewPass
[03:01] <saki_knin> cool
[03:01] <saki_knin> and now wath
[03:02] <cameron_> it didn't work
[03:02] <stdin> you are registered
[03:02] <cameron_> :(
[03:02] <saki_knin> how thet help me
[03:03] <stdin> you wanted to register, now you are
[03:03] <moody> on http://www.nvidia.pl/page/drivers.html i must take a x64 or x86
[03:03] <moody> wtf ?
[03:03] <saki_knin> and i want Lynard Skynards
[03:03] <moody> how to check ?
[03:04] <saki_knin> download it
[03:04] <moody> x64 ?
[03:04] <moody> x86 ?
[03:04] <cameron_> I re-installed Amarok and it worked..., W00t
[03:05] <stdin> moody: which did you install, amd64 or x86?
[03:05] <moody> i don't know
[03:05] <moody> i've got kubuntu
[03:05] <moody> but i don't know anything more
[03:05] <saki_knin>  Lynard Skynards
[03:05] <saki_knin> plz
[03:06] <saki_knin> i wont to lisen
[03:06] <moody> mininova.org
[03:06] <moody> youtube.com
[03:06] <stdin> moody: ok, run "dpkg --print-architecture"
[03:06] <saki_knin> there is no on minova
[03:06] <saki_knin>  Lynard Skynards
[03:06] <saki_knin> and youtube
[03:06] <stdin> saki_knin: if it has nothing to do with Kubuntu support, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <moody> i386
[03:07] <saki_knin> ok
[03:07] <moody> so 86 ?
[03:07] <stdin> moody: then you get the x86 version, but why not install the package from ubuntu?
[03:08] <wolferine> can someone help, when I vnc into my other box, I see no desktop
[03:09] <moody> display can't see good sterowniki :P
[03:09] <jhutchins> wolferine: What do you see?
[03:09] <wolferine> jhutchins, blank background, and maybe a shell
[03:10] <wolferine> shell in a window
[03:10] <moody> and my resolution max is 1024
[03:11] <wolferine> what the hell
[03:11] <jhutchins> wolferine: You were hoping to see the active desktop, right?
[03:11] <wolferine> it was because I wasnt logged into the system yet
[03:11] <jhutchins> Mmmhmm.
[03:11] <wolferine> thats retarded
[03:11] <jhutchins> Yeah, all the VNC clients are a little wierd about what they're trying to do.
[03:12] <jhutchins> wolferine: It sould be obvious that if you wanted your own login, you'd just use X forwarding.
[03:12] <wolferine> obvious?
[03:12] <wolferine> what do you mean?
[03:13] <aguitel> when Adapt is finish installing updates and upgrades is neccesary to restart?
[03:13] <Soutane> aguitel: nope.  Linux is not like Windows in that regard.
[03:13] <aguitel> ok
[03:14] <stdin> aguitel: only if it tells you, in the system tray, otherwise not
[03:14] <aguitel> ok
[03:17] <cameron_> How do I install Java?
[03:17] <cameron_> 6
[03:18] <stdin> cameron_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:18] <wolferine> cameron_, consult the ubuntu guide
[03:18] <wolferine> cameron_, google, 'ubuntu guide'
[03:20] <saki_knin> way
[03:20] <cameron_> I already installed the runtime files from adept maneger
[03:20] <cameron_> but it's not working on firefox, but the website just gives me  Sun Java6: sun-java6-plugin
[03:20] <saki_knin> stdin:
[03:21] <aguitel> could i install Beryl with :apt-get install beryl ?
[03:21] <stdin> cameron_: you need to install the plugin, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:21] <stdin> saki_knin: yes?
[03:21] <saki_knin> they have kick me
[03:21] <stdin> yes, I saw
[03:21] <cameron_> should I go ahead and uninstall the runtime files?
[03:21] <saki_knin> from thet irc
[03:22] <stdin> cameron_: no, the plugin needs that
[03:22] <cameron_> kk
[03:25] <sparr> I have a locale archive file (I think) that my localedef cant or wont read.  Any ideas on getting data out of it?  I would like to remove some locales.
[03:33] <specialbuddy> what program should I use if In want to shorten up a song so that I can make it a ringtone
[03:35] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: audacity
[03:35] <specialbuddy> I tried that and it doesn't work
[03:35] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: define "doesn't work"
[03:35] <specialbuddy> I keep getting an error and don't know how to fix it so I thought I would try something else
[03:36] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: what error are you getting?
[03:37] <specialbuddy> well it works now
[03:37] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: :)
[03:37] <specialbuddy> weird
[03:37] <specialbuddy> I was reading that some people had the same problem
[03:37] <robotgeek> we are all miracle workers here!
[03:37] <specialbuddy> sometimes it doesn't work
[03:37] <specialbuddy> it kept saying something about output
[03:39] <rodrigo> hello
[03:39] <tank> hey :P
[03:40] <TimK65> Hi, is anyone here familiar with the soundKonverter application? It's giving me trouble.
[03:40] <tank> everyone is having sound problems today...sorry I cant help ya
[03:42] <rodrigo> I can't access to  adept installer
[03:43] <rodrigo> how can I close all the programs that may don't let it work?
[03:43] <stdin> rodrigo: what happens when you try to open adept?
[03:43] <rodrigo> it says this Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one
[03:44] <stdin> rodrigo: open konsole and run " sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[03:44] <stdin> rodrigo: all one line, including the " ; "
[03:44] <rodrigo> stdin: thanks let me try it
[03:45] <rodrigo> ok now?
[03:45] <MVBox2> stdin, what these command doing ?
[03:45] <rodrigo> stdin: ok now what do i do?
[03:45] <tank> is it possible to save ssh information so I dont have to re-type it every time?
[03:46] <stdin> rodrigo: adept should work now
[03:46] <rodrigo> ok let me see
[03:46] <stdin> MVBox2: the 1st one kill any process using dpkg and the 2nd one tells adept to complete anything it was doing before
[03:46] <rodrigo> stdin: hey thanks what was the problem?
[03:47] <stdin> MVBox2: erm, tells dpkg, not adept
[03:47] <stdin> rodrigo: sometimes, when adept crashes or is interupted it doesn't clean up properly
[03:47] <MVBox2> stdin,mmm thanx alot
[03:48] <stdin> np :)
[03:48] <Sergiu1> tt
[03:48] <Sergiu1> rr
[03:48] <stdin> any other letters you want to test?
[03:49] <Sergiu1> no
[03:49] <Sergiu1> why?
[03:49] <stdin> ;)
[03:49] <Sergiu1> ;)
[03:49] <MVBox2> my must proplem on kubuntu that i can't save my new configrtion's r there any way to do that cli ?
[03:49] <robotgeek> MVBox2: what configurations?
[03:50] <MVBox2> network configrtion: wlan,gateway ip ..etc
[03:50] <robotgeek> MVBox2: well, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager
[03:50] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: click apply twice
[03:51] <stdin> did you press the administer mode button ?
[03:51] <MVBox2> no becus ther's error in the medule :(
[03:51] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: what you natal language?
[03:51] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:52] <Sergiu1> what is*
[03:52] <MVBox2> and knetworkmanager dosn't save any new changes
[03:52] <MVBox2> Sergiu1,Arabic
[03:52] <Sergiu1> your*
[03:52] <stdin> !ar
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <stdin> hmm
[03:53] <stdin> !arabic
[03:53] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[03:53] <MVBox2> stdin,!?
[03:53] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: try again , i also experience the same error ...
[03:54] <stdin> !bot
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:54] <Sergiu1> try again to change the value
[03:54] <stdin> MVBox2: it's a cue fot ubotu
[03:54] <MVBox2> okay
[03:54] <Sergiu1> i don't think it's an error
[03:54] <Sergiu1> :D
[03:55] <ioioioioiiiio> hi, will kubuntu gutsy have kde 4?
[03:55] <Lopin> Okay...  I'm trying to boot a cd version, off of my hard disk, and it's hanging, and doing some odd things...
[03:55] <MVBox2> i donno but i don't care about GUI so that why i'm asking how it's don using CLI :)
[03:55] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: no, not by default
[03:56] <stdin> MVBox2: like robotgeek said, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager
[03:56] <elite101> hello
[03:56] <Sergiu1> hi
[03:56] <elite101> hey lol
[03:56] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:56] <robotgeek> MVBox2: "man 5 interfaces" is also useful
[03:57] <Lopin> Anyone know how to use a kernel off of a cd, on a hard disk, and how I put it in grub to get it working right...
[03:57] <elite101> uhhh i cant get why i install from the livecd that when im running it off the HDD it doesnt show the install option?
[03:57] <elite101> :P jk
[03:57] <elite101> obv
[03:58] <elite101> but my "ath" pci wireless card does not work in kubuntu when installed on the HD? only on the livecd? why is this?
[03:58] <Lopin> Is anyone listening?
[03:58] <Lopin> To any of us?...
[03:58] <robotgeek> sure we are
[03:58] <Sergiu1> elite101: maybe you need to configure it?
[03:59] <Sergiu1> :D
[03:59] <Lopin> Okay...  Can anyone help me with configuring my kernel so it doesn't get stuck in a loop...
[03:59] <elite101> i know that
[03:59] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:59] <Aondo> Sergiu1  it's you? :D
[03:59] <elite101> but its not showing up in the network option
[03:59] <elite101> its shows ETH
[03:59] <Sergiu1> Aondo: yea :)
[03:59] <elite101> but not ath
[04:00] <robotgeek> Lopin: you would need to put entries in /boot , add entries in menu.lst (for grub) and put modules in the correct places
[04:00] <Aondo> :P
[04:00] <robotgeek> Lopin: plus, i am not sure if that would even work
[04:01] <Lopin> I'm just to the point where I'm trying to figure out what options to send to the kernel...  It's locking up after a momment, talking about starting kjournaled, and trying to mount the floppy as an ext3 file system...
[04:01] <Lopin> And, it'll just sit there and read the floppy forever if I'd let it...
[04:02] <ioioioioiiiio> just read the ars technica review of it and it looked really cool
[04:02] <Lopin> I have the contents of the kubuntu live disk in a folder called kubuntu on my hd...  I have an entry in the grub list pointing to the vmlinuz, and initrd.gz in the casper folder...
[04:02] <ioioioioiiiio> how stable is the current gutsy kubuntu
[04:03] <Biovore> it isn't yet..
[04:03] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: it's a development version, it's stability changes, but the place to ask is #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <specialbuddy> how do I find a file with beagle
[04:05] <specialbuddy> I can't find anything
[04:06] <malcolmb> Do you have the beagled service running?
[04:06] <specialbuddy> I think so
[04:06] <specialbuddy> yeah it's started
[04:06] <specialbuddy> and I downloaded Kerry
[04:08] <Lopin> What does the preseed file do?
[04:09] <Lopin> Okay...  I'll be back...  I'm gonna try this again...
[04:10] <Lopin> root (hd0,0)
[04:10] <Lopin> kernel (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/vmlinuz append file=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/preseed/kubuntu.seed  boot=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper initrd=(hd0,0)kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz root=(hd0,0) rw --
[04:10] <Lopin> initrd (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz
[04:10] <Lopin> boot
[04:10] <specialbuddy> does it take a long time to index everything with beagle
[04:10] <specialbuddy> because I'm not finding much
[04:13] <tank> does anyone happen to know the location that TCL installs when you apt-get tcl8.4
[04:14] <Littleboots> tank: have you tried "whereis TCL"
[04:14] <tank> no brb thanks
[04:15] <tank> tank@Server:~$ whereis TCL
[04:15] <tank> TCL:
[04:15] <Littleboots> =(
[04:15] <tank> nothing?
[04:15] <stdin> tank: dpkg -L tcl8.4
[04:16] <tank> hmm that seems to have worked
[04:16] <tank> thanks
[04:16] <Littleboots> whereis worked too, just needed to lowercase the tcl =/
[04:17] <sparr> I --force'd a package to install despite broken dependencies.  How can I tell apt to ignore those broken dependencies as I do other things?
[04:17] <tank> ahh I see thanks Littleboots
[04:17] <mimik> i have a second hard drive i mounted, it keeps crashing every time i access data from it
[04:18] <mimik> what's wrong?
[04:19] <fester> I have samba and nfs. My object files are set for sharing. How do I make these  shared files available on my local network?
[04:23] <tank> ok...so if a program says my tcl version is way to old and apt-get upgrade doesnt work should I download it from the website and do what?
[04:23] <tank> sorry bad question I know
[04:24] <stdin> what program??
[04:25] <miles> is Biovre in here?
[04:26] <elite101> nope?
[04:26] <miles> o
[04:26] <elite101> well he is but
[04:26] <elite101> not responding
[04:26] <elite101> lol
[04:26] <elite101> ;)
[04:26] <elite101> u mean Xchat
[04:26] <elite101> im using Konversation?
[04:26] <miles> is that what it is called?
[04:27] <elite101> why not u that
[04:27] <elite101> use*
[04:27] <stdin> miles: use tab
[04:27] <tank> I'm trying to install an eggdrop bot on a server
[04:27] <elite101> are u running kubuntu?
[04:27] <miles> ooooooo thanks
[04:27] <tank> yes
[04:27] <miles> ya
[04:27] <elite101> lol
[04:27] <elite101> well its good i guess looks way better than Xchat
[04:28] <miles> so anyways, does anyone here program in C?
[04:28] <miles> or c++?
[04:28] <elite101> yeah biovore does
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Python....
[04:28] <elite101> :P
[04:28] <stdin> but that's -ot
[04:28] <ardchoille> stdin: I'm sorry ;)
[04:28] <miles> people at work were clownin me today because i am studying C
[04:29] <miles> but im the only true linux user there...they just dont get it
[04:29] <ioioioioiiiio> eew c++ :(
[04:29] <elite101> whats wrong with C++?
[04:29] <miles> yea or C?
[04:29] <stdin> C++ is better than C, just look at it's name
[04:29] <elite101> lol
[04:29] <elite101> lol haha
[04:29] <miles> yea, im studying C as a precursor to C++
[04:30] <miles> since C++ is pretty much C OOP
[04:30] <elite101> well if study instead of being a A student why not a A++
[04:30] <miles> pun?
[04:30] <elite101> lol yeah
[04:30] <ioioioioiiiio> interpreted languages are vastly quicker and easier to program in, and produce less bugs usually
[04:30] <elite101> :P a very bad one
[04:30] <elite101> i meant to say
[04:30] <miles> haha
[04:30] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: and have a ton of overhead/bloat
[04:30] <navets> how do you create a gradient with gimp
[04:31] <elite101> If u study and become good u can be a A student or even a A++ student
[04:31] <jmancine> bcm43xx
[04:31] <elite101> ;)
[04:31] <miles> C has given me nothing but a greater understanding of programming in general
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> ioioioioiiiio: faster? haha yeah right.I like python and all, but you are WRONG
[04:31] <ioioioioiiiio> well some are getting much better, haskell for instance
[04:31] <elite101> whats python?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> elite101: programming language
[04:31] <elite101> a programing program?
[04:31] <elite101> ic
[04:31] <ioioioioiiiio> nosrednaekim, quicker to PROGRAM in
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> oh, yeah, I agree with you there
[04:31] <elite101> any one here heard of DEFCON15?
[04:32] <elite101> ;) its may favv. thing
[04:32] <miles> elite101: ya
[04:32] <elite101> i wish i can go there thou
[04:32] <stdin> erm, this is too offtopic
[04:32] <elite101> sorry
[04:32] <miles> if you go there, the feds track u
[04:32] <elite101> lol
[04:32] <ioioioioiiiio> c is awesome for things like the kernel, graphics, etc
[04:32] <stdin> continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <elite101> okay
[04:32] <miles> they might be trackin me right now
[04:33] <elite101> ;)
[04:33] <miles> uh oh
[04:33] <jmancine> i cant get wireless on kubuntu, i dont know how to install the driver,anyone know?
[04:33] <miles> C helped me understand what "System.exit(0)" does in java
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> jmancine: sure.... what chipset do you have?
[04:34] <stdin> jmancine: you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> jmancine: are you on wired riht now?
[04:34] <Sergiu1> KDE4 will not be in the next realize of kubuntu ?
[04:34] <Sergiu1> )
[04:34] <miles> sergiul, no it will not
[04:34] <jmancine> its installed through adept
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> Sergiu1: nope
[04:35] <miles> admiral ackbar says, "its a trap!"
[04:35] <Sergiu1> miles: why so
[04:35] <ioioioioiiiio> does kubuntu come with the same drivers etc as ubuntu?
[04:35] <jmancine> yes im on wired
[04:35] <elite101> lol i still got KDE 3.5.2
[04:35] <stdin> jmancine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[04:35] <stdin> Sergiu1: no
[04:36] <stdin> Sergiu1: kde4 won't be ready for 1
[04:36] <Sergiu1> ioioioioiiiio: yes
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> ioioioioiiiio: yes
[04:36] <miles> sergiul: why so what?
[04:36] <miles> admiral ackbar or kde4?
[04:37] <Sergiu1> miles: kde4 won't be read for 1
[04:37] <Sergiu1> now i it's clear
[04:37] <miles> o, sorry, i was googling for a pic of admiral ackbar saying "its a trap!"
[04:37] <elite101> who program's for kubuntu distro? any of u ppl in here?
[04:37] <elite101> can u put my name in the start up? lol :P
[04:37] <stdin> elite101: no
[04:37] <elite101> Welcome to ELITE101 KDE4
[04:37] <elite101> :P
[04:37] <elite101> jk
[04:38] <ardchoille> Does the flash plugin not owrk on some sites?
[04:38] <elite101> ohh
[04:38] <elite101> well who does program for kubuntu?
[04:38] <stdin> ardchoille: the flash plugin version 9 should work
[04:39] <elite101> u guys are rele smart? i bet u program things after but i mean like acutally be apart of the team :)
[04:39] <ardchoille> stdin: It doesn't seem to work on sopme sites, have a look at http://www.johnnycash.com/  it asks me to download and install it
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> elite101: lots of people, why?
[04:39] <elite101> ohh well none of uguys?
[04:39] <miles> elite101, kubuntu.org has the developers names on it
[04:39] <elite101> i was wondering since its free and all do they get paid? or is it something they do for other ppl
[04:39] <miles> the main ones
[04:40] <elite101> ic
[04:40] <stdin> ardchoille: works fine, just click on that guys face :p
[04:40] <stdin> elite101: that don't get paid
[04:40] <Sergiu1> ardchoille: works fine
[04:40] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:40] <elite101> they* or that*?
[04:40] <stdin> elite101: *they don't get paid
[04:41] <elite101> ic
[04:41] <elite101> well who funds the kubuntu and the livecd shipment? i would really like to get Xubuntu...if its any good?
[04:41] <elite101> last question^ ;)
[04:41] <stdin> !offtopic | elite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <ubotu> elite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:52] <holycow> lets see how clever you are now
[04:52] <holycow> -_-
[04:53] <holycow> appearently not very
[04:53] <holycow> >_>
[04:53] <miles> i dont get it
[04:53] <holycow> i kid i kid
[04:53] <miles> can u explain it at least?
[04:53] <holycow> which part
[04:53] <holycow> the part about where you aren't clever
[04:53] <holycow> or
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[04:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:54] <holycow> the part where you are copying from bash.org?
[04:54] <holycow> :)
[04:54] <atrocity> is there a reason my sound sounds...crappy...in linux but crisp in windows?
[04:54] <miles> o.....
[04:54] <holycow> i'm buggin ya miles :)
[04:54] <holycow> no biggie, post away
[04:54] <holycow> spend some time on it, its a fun site :)
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: do you have an HD audio card?
[04:55] <master_> nick Uli
[04:55] <atrocity> no
[04:55] <miles> i am using a cli irc client, and my shell is bash, i was wondering how you knew that?
[04:55] <atrocity> it sounds like it's getting bass'ed out or something
[04:55] <elite101> anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?
[04:55] <elite101> if so what is the brand and model #
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: what are you using to play the audio with?
[04:56] <atrocity> flash player in a browser and xmms
[04:56] <atrocity> both sound the same
[04:56] <master_> i'm spanish, i have a problem. I stole menu bar in kopete. How i can add? thanks
[04:56] <master_> nickname ulises
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: hmm, ok. if you use amarok, you can modify the equalizer to get rid of bass. but for flash..IDK
[04:56] <stdin> master_: Ctrl-M (and there is a #kubuntu-es)
[04:56] <master_> thanks
[04:57] <elite101> ^^^
[04:57] <pepe_> kubuntu.es is fall
[04:57] <atrocity> yeah
[04:57] <atrocity> the bass is all the way down
[04:57] <atrocity> but it's like..muffled
[04:57] <elite101> anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?
[04:57] <atrocity> like in a shitty sound system when bass cracks because the speakers are too loud
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: hmmm.... yeah....
[04:57] <stdin> !language
[04:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <atrocity> eep, sorry
[04:58] <stdin> pepe_: #kubuntu-es not #kubuntu.es
[04:58] <Sergiu1> hey
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: I've never debugged audio quality before ;) maybe go over to #alsa
[04:59] <elite101> well then does anyone have a USB doggle that worked without using any ndiswrapper or something?
[04:59] <master_> how change my nickname?
[05:00] <dom> elite101,  any of them.  i've used "Sandisk Cruzer", "Lexar Jumpdrive", etc
[05:00] <elite101> what?
[05:00] <atrocity> kk, thanks :)
[05:00] <elite101> lol SD makes an wi-fi doggle?
[05:00] <elite101> :s
[05:00] <nosrednaekim> I think he means a wifi dongle
[05:00] <elite101> yeah sorry
[05:00] <elite101> i should of said that
[05:01] <elite101> but is anyone useing a USB WIFI Doggle rite now that didnt have to go threw anything like ndiswrapper?
[05:02] <elite101> im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)
[05:04] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:04] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:04] <moody> whatthefak ?
[05:04] <holycow> install gedit
[05:04] <holycow> then do gksudo gedit instead
[05:04] <moody> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee aha
[05:04] <holycow> don't use sudo with gui apps
[05:05] <stdin> moody: no, use kdesu kate
[05:05] <moody> can i replace the gedit with kate ?
[05:05] <atrocity> lol, why not?
[05:05] <stdin> yes
[05:05] <stdin> !kdesu | atrocity
[05:05] <ubotu> atrocity: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:05] <holycow> you aren't replacing anything
[05:05] <holycow> your just installing another text editor
[05:05] <moody> so ...
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:05] <moody> so ....
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:05] <stdin> !paste | moody
[05:05] <ubotu> moody: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <moody> fakk
[05:05] <moody> sorry guys
[05:05] <holycow> just remember for gnome apps you use gksudo, for kde apps you use kdesu
[05:05] <atrocity> ubotu: eep, kk, lol
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eep, kk, lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <atrocity> i'll have to remember to stop doing that then
[05:06] <stdin> moody: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <atrocity> ...did i just talk to a bot?
[05:07] <Sergiu1> atrocity: you did
[05:07] <ardchoille> atrocity: Yes
[05:07] <atrocity> :D
[05:07] <Sergiu1> :D
[05:07] <Sergiu1> ups
[05:07] <moody> thx
[05:07] <Sergiu1> sorry for offtopic
[05:07] <ardchoille> moody: Don't use sudo for gui apps, use kdesu or gksudo
[05:08] <ardchoille> !gksudo
[05:08] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[05:08] <Sergiu1> i forget that this is kubuntu official support channel
[05:08] <stdin> Sergiu1: just look at the /topic
[05:08] <Sergiu1> stdin :P
[05:08] <Sergiu1> ok, sorry again
[05:09] <nosrednaekim> actuallly, you use gksudo while in gnome,and kdesu while in kde
[05:09] <holycow> not entirely correct
[05:10] <holycow> you use gksudo FOR gnome apps and kdesu FOR kde apps
[05:10] <elite101> im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> really? kdesu synaptic works fine
[05:10] <holycow> you can run anyone one you want at any tim ehowever, regardless of environment
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[05:10] <holycow> so does sudo synaptic
[05:10] <holycow> lol :)
[05:11] <ardchoille> holycow: Actually, I just use kdesu for all gui admin tasks in kde
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> well yeah...
[05:11] <elite101> everytime i use my microwave my dog barks and the tv burns out? someone said its because i didnt port-forward
[05:11] <elite101> is this so?
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:12] <stdin> elite101: again, that's ok in -offtopic, but not here
[05:12] <elite101> sorry lol
[05:12] <elite101> its was a funny but i do have a prob
[05:12] <moody> i'm installed drivers for graphic card , should i reboot for use it ?
[05:12] <elite101> my wireless
[05:12] <stdin> moody: just restart X
[05:12] <moody> ok
[05:12] <elite101> crtl alt backspace?
[05:13] <moody> how to restart x with command ?
[05:13] <stdin> moody: logout, and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[05:13] <moody> ok
[05:13] <stdin> you'll want to logout first
[05:13] <ardchoille> moody: logout, then:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:14] <nosrednaekim> or log out-> sessions menu->restart x server
[05:14] <stdin> almost the same as logout and c-a-bs
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah, but I hread once that ctrl+alt+bkspce did n't restart SOMETHING. I forget what...
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> *heard
[05:15] <Littleboots> x
[05:15] <Littleboots> it restarts x
[05:15] <stdin> it restarts KDM, all KDM does is start X
[05:16] <stdin> once X exit's KDM just restarts it
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> ahh... i'm tired..... c ya'll
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> :)
[05:16] <stdin> tired? ha, it's 4:16am here
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> you POOR creature.
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> 11 pm here
[05:17] <stdin> I'll just connect a coffee IV tomorrow
[05:18] <Sergiu1> :)
[05:19] <ubuntu__> hello
[05:19] <moody> #ubuntu-pl ?
[05:19] <Wiggles> ?
[05:19] <moody> ok it's on :P
[05:19] <moody> i try to connect :P
[05:19] <moody> and it's ok
[05:19] <Wiggles> I have a problem
[05:20] <stdin> if you don't ask no one can answer
[05:20] <Wiggles> does anyone know how I can move files from a Vista installation on to my usb drive via a live cd?
[05:21] <stdin> mount the ntfs partition and copy over
[05:21] <Wiggles> i'm not sure what you mean
[05:21] <Wiggles> i'm new to linux altogether
[05:21] <Sergiu1> does he know hot to mount the ntfs parition ?>L)
[05:21] <stdin> !ntfs
[05:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:22] <miles> Wiggles: admiral ackbar says "its a trap!!1"
[05:22] <stdin> Wiggles: that link tells you how to
[05:25] <banjooie> Okay, so, I'm running a program that hasn't been updated for some time. Like, a couple years
[05:25] <banjooie> Or, rather, trying to install it. It's asking for 'xlib6g'
[05:25] <banjooie> If I'm to understand, this no longer exists. What do I do?
[05:25] <moody> sudo gedit in kde i can replace with ?
[05:25] <banjooie> I use nano.
[05:25] <moody> kdesu kate ?
[05:25] <stdin> moody: kdesu kate
[05:26] <banjooie> So, since xlib6g has been removed entirely, is there anything I can do to get this program to work?
[05:27] <moody> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:27] <banjooie> Ooh, the 'KDE thinks you have a tablet' problem
[05:27] <stdin> moody: ignore that
[05:27] <stdin> banjooie: only if you find an old source package for it and compile it
[05:28] <banjooie> ...So if I compile it from source, it won't need it
[05:28] <stdin> banjooie: and it's nothing to do with KDE
[05:28] <banjooie> No, I mean the bad device thing was KDe.
[05:28] <banjooie> Not the xlib thing, it's obviously a debian thing from my attempts at googling.
[05:28] <stdin> banjooie: no, if you compile that xlib6g thing from source
[05:29] <banjooie> The problem here is: I cannot /find/ xlib6g. I am to understand it conflicts with some other thing which is why it was removed.
[05:29] <stdin> banjooie: no, the bad device error is nothing to do with KDE
[05:29] <banjooie> Well, the xorg.conf thing.
[05:29] <stdin> you're kinda stuck then
[05:29] <banjooie> argh.
[05:32] <Wiggles> Ahhh, Thanks everyone!  (sorry for late reply, I was afk)
[05:33] <jhutchins> !bad device
[05:33] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:34] <banjooie> Okay, another question, then. Maybe I'll be lucky this time.
[05:34] <banjooie> How do I make Print Screen stop opening ksnapshot?
[05:34] <banjooie> !ksnapshot
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <jhutchins> !info ksnapshot
[05:34] <ubotu> ksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:34] <jhutchins> banjooie: Your answer lies either in a local man ksnapshot, /usr/share/docs,  or the help within ksnapshot.
[05:35] <jhutchins> banjooie: Or you could just uninstall the dang thing.  I got a new keyboard and I end up with about six per day.
[05:35] <elite101> hey is there a screen capture program for kubuntu instead of using Hypercam2 like an open-source free on that doesnt have to be paid for?
[05:35] <elite101> lol @ jhutchines
[05:35] <jhutchins> >ZOT<
[05:35] <jhutchins> elite101: ksnapshot
[05:36] <elite101> no its doesnt make movies
[05:36] <jhutchins> By default, bound to the printscreen key.
[05:36] <elite101> i mean record the whole screen and what i do
[05:36] <jhutchins> Hrmn.  Yes, but I don't know what it's called.
[05:36] <elite101> lol hold down the printscreen button and then it will record 30 pics per secound ;)
[05:36] <banjooie> Well, see, I /have/ uninstalled it.
[05:36] <banjooie> I've tried that.
[05:36] <elite101> :P
[05:36] <elite101> lmao
[05:36] <banjooie> All that does is make it so when you hit ksnapshot
[05:36] <elite101> does it work
[05:36] <banjooie> It gives an error message, 'can't find ksnapshot'
[05:36] <banjooie> this is equally as irritating
[05:37] <jhutchins> HAH!
[05:37] <elite101> lol 30gb been wasted on that snap shot thing i had the button stuck came back i was 2gb short of 500gb :P
[05:37] <jhutchins> Gonna have to go into kcontrol and fix keyboard shortcuts.
[05:37] <elite101> lol jk
[05:37] <banjooie> And I've googled it to no end
[05:37] <banjooie> all I see is 'We should make print screen start ksnapshot'
[05:37] <banjooie> It's like the very idea of not wanting this to occur is so baffling as to destroy /minds/.
[05:37] <elite101> lol hypercam2.exe works good with wine and records in .avi
[05:37] <stdin> elite101: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[05:38] <erenko> n.a.
[05:39] <elite101> thanx stdin,
[05:39] <banjooie> What the
[05:39] <banjooie> why the sweet hell was it under /regional and accessibility/.
[05:39] <elite101> !laguage
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <elite101> lol
[05:39] <elite101> i suck
[05:39] <banjooie> YAY
[05:39] <elite101> !language
[05:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:39] <elite101> :P
[05:39] <elite101> !anything
[05:39] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[05:39] <elite101> :P
[05:40] <banjooie> !everything
[05:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:40] <banjooie> !nothing
[05:40] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[05:40] <stdin> !botabuse | elite101, banjooie
[05:40] <ubotu> elite101, banjooie: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:40] <elite101> sorry
[05:40] <banjooie> D:
[05:40] <miles> pwn
[05:40] <elite101> by the bot"
[05:40] <miles> u scared him
[05:40] <elite101> night
[05:40] <elite101> i gotta go go go
[05:41] <miles> go where?
[05:41] <elite101> lol to bed bed bed
[05:41] <elite101> good night all
[05:41] <elite101> nighty night
[05:41] <stdin> I was hoping you'd say "to pee pee pee"
[05:42] <miles> how do you get rid of the bouncy icons in kde?
[05:42] <miles> i hate them!
[05:42] <holycow> install gnome
[05:42] <holycow> *cough*
[05:42] <stdin> turn off launch feedback
[05:42] <holycow> i'm kidden
[05:42] <ubuntu_> hey people
[05:43] <miles> kde > gnome last time i checked
[05:43] <zimmo> is there any way of letting my cd-driver working normal?
[05:43] <miles> cli > kde > xfce > gnome
[05:43] <zimmo> it can bear the whole install
[05:43] <zimmo> it can not bear the whole install time... the cd-drive fails!
[05:44] <gost87> who this?
[05:44] <gost87> bay
[05:50] <jhutchins> miles: xfce > kde for certan cases.
[05:50] <ubuntu_> hello its rele elite101 i have to keep IRC chat open because ppl constantly chat and it wont dis connect me off the wireless since im on the live cd too
[05:51] <juancamilo> hi all
[05:51] <juancamilo> i need help burning a cd, Im using k3b
[05:52] <miles> jhutchins, xfce > kde on my work laptop
[05:52] <elite101> wow livecd runs faster than windows
[05:52] <elite101> :P
[05:52] <miles> kde > xfce on my pc at home (using right now)
[05:53] <jhutchins> Yeah, since about 2003 Linux GUI has surpassed windows.
[05:53] <elite101> :P
[05:53] <juancamilo> I want to burn an .iso image on a cd with k3b and it says "Cdreocrd has no permission to open the devie"
[05:53] <juancamilo> anyone?
[05:53] <jhutchins> juancamilo: Tell us the problem is.  Do not tell us what doesn't happen, tell us what does happen and what you thing should happen instead.
[05:54] <elite101> think*
[05:54] <miles> juancamilo: i would open up konsole, type "sudo k3b" and then try
[05:54] <jhutchins> juancamilo: Ok, that's good.
[05:54] <elite101> tell us what the problem is *
[05:54] <stdin> make sure you're in the cdrom group
[05:54] <elite101> lol u sayed thing? the letter G is not even by the letter K
[05:54] <jhutchins> actually, under k3b's options should be a k3b setup that sets things to run with the correct permissions.
[05:54] <elite101> :P
[05:55] <juancamilo> thanks let me try that
[05:56] <stdin> miles: if you did sudo k3b, you'd be wrong
[05:56] <miles> just a guess
[05:56] <stdin> !kdesu | miles
[05:56] <ubotu> miles: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:56] <miles> whenever i get an error about permission, i try same operation under sudo
[05:56] <miles> o
[05:56] <miles> see i didnt know that
[05:56] <miles> but that sure does help
[05:56] <jhutchins> Yeah, I'm must be nodding off, kdesu k3b at best.
[05:57] <jhutchins> miles: You can end up pretty much having to reinstall from running certain stuff as sudo instead of kdesu.
[05:57] <stdin> or just deleting your $HOME
[05:58] <miles> where is kdesu?
[05:58] <miles> do i need to apt-get?
[05:58] <stdin> miles: read what ubotu said
[05:58] <jhutchins> There is definitely something not working with the ubuntu scheme to force sudo on people.  We end up with a LOT of people running way too much stuff under sudo.
[05:58] <stdin> jhutchins: better than having them login as root
[05:58] <nomad111> in ubuntu my external NTFS hard drive used to auto mount when plugged in how can i make this happen in kubuntu? is there a way that does not involve editing /etc/fstab?
[05:59] <jhutchins> I guesss part of it is the Windows mentality where sooner or later you give up and run everything with admin privileges.
[05:59] <jhutchins> stdin: Yeah, well some of the just unlock root and start running that way full time.
[05:59] <nomad111> it doesnt auto mount
[05:59] <miles> stdin: i read it twice, i dont get it
[05:59] <nomad111> and i have to run mount command every time
[05:59] <nomad111> which is getting annoying
[05:59] <jhutchins> nomad111: Why wouldn't you want to edit fstab?
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: I don't think that's the soluition here, but why?
[06:00] <nomad111> well did ubuntu do that behind the seens?
[06:00] <stdin> miles: "use  kdesu  to run graphical applications", apt-get is not a graphical application
[06:00] <nomad111> because it worked in ubuntu
[06:00] <miles> no no, i mean, i cant find kdesu, should i DL it via apt-get?
[06:00] <nomad111> i dont want to go in and play around with files when there may be a simpler solution
[06:00] <miles> or is it installed by default?
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: Ah, so you don't want to change a fundimental part of the system...
[06:00] <nomad111> miles: its installed by default
[06:00] <stdin> miles: kdesu is installed with kubuntu
[06:00] <nomad111> jhutchins: precisely!
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: dude, playin' around with conf files is what linux is all about!
[06:01] <Wiggles> How can I directly delete files without moving them to trash?
[06:01] <jhutchins> nomad111: Keep backups, and hack on!
[06:01] <stdin> Wiggles: hold down shift
[06:01] <enzo_> What is the install for vmware-workstation?
[06:01] <nomad111> ye but it will give me an error (although not catastrophic) every startup if the drive is not plugged in
[06:01] <Wiggles> thanks again
[06:01] <jhutchins> nomad111: Ok, the problem is that those very system fundamentals are being moved into being handled by the gui (which is WRONG).
[06:01] <stdin> enzo_: you go to vmware.com, download it and install it
[06:01] <enzo_> stdin: Isn't it in the repos?
[06:02] <jhutchins> nomad111: Anyway, it has to do with the way that the system handles detecting the device, and i will leave you to soberer, better rested heads than mine.
[06:02] <stdin> enzo_: no, it would be illegal. vmware-player is in the repos, not vmware-workstation
[06:02] <enzo_> Hmm
[06:02] <enzo_> Ok
[06:02] <nomad111> jhutchins: you're more enthusiastic than me when it comes to play around in the OS
[06:02] <enzo_> Thank you stdin
[06:02] <nomad111> jhutchins: hehe im a noob at that stuff
[06:03] <jhutchins> nomad111: Exerience is proportional to data destroyed - go out there and get some!
[06:03] <greywolf> hmm
[06:04] <nomad111> jhutchins: im currently doing a subject at university that involves playing around with an operating system
[06:04] <greywolf> I want to install libgtk2.0-dev, but it says that it's conflicting with libgtk1.3-dev...
[06:04] <nomad111> have to put uCLinux on a microchip and write a program to run on it
[06:04] <jhutchins> Hm.  Significant atmospheric phenomena here, i think we'll go listen-only for a while
[06:04] <greywolf> but I just did sudo apt-get remove libgtk1.3-dev and adept still thinks the package is going to break
[06:05] <miles> ok
[06:05] <greywolf> and libgtk1.3 isn't even showing up in adept at all :\
[06:06] <juancamilo> so i try that way but it didn't work propertly, first time I got an "input/output error. Not necessarily serious." at 5% and k3b recomended to use tao to solve the problem, but i got the same result...??
[06:06] <greywolf> any ideas on what's going on?
[06:07] <juancamilo> this is the first time i try this on kubuntu and i don't know what to do next? anyone?
[06:08] <underdog5004> juancamilo, try ignoring it the error
[06:08] <yukino> hola
[06:08] <underdog5004> or try popping in another burner...maybe you have a bad one
[06:08] <yukino> alguien sabe como instalar
[06:08] <underdog5004> !es | yukino
[06:08] <ubotu> yukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:09] <juancamilo> ?? how? there is no option to do that...
[06:12] <titanix88> hello?
[06:16] <edoba> hola
[06:16] <se7en^Of^9> what do i do if i have unmet dependencis
[06:16] <titanix88> everyone silent?
[06:16] <se7en^Of^9> python-qt3: Depends: python-sip4 (>= 4.7) but 4.6-1ubuntu3 is installed
[06:18] <titanix88> se7 it should not happen when installing from repo
[06:18] <titanix88> se7 it should not happen when installing from repo
[06:19] <moody> anybody here smoke ?
[06:19] <moody> now
[06:19] <titanix88> moody i hate.
[06:19] <se7en^Of^9> titanix88: i know but it did any idea how to fix it
[06:20] <vzduch> se7en^Of^9: you're probably not installing from a repo, my (installed) python-qt3 shows python-sip4 4.5 as a dependency
[06:21] <moody> i smoke from four months , it's stupid bleeee
[06:21] <titanix88> se7 sudo apt-get install -f
[06:21] <moody> i begin because a girl :P:P:P
[06:21] <moody> so anyone is smoking now ?
[06:21] <miles> titanix88: what does the -f param do?
[06:21] <moody> i don';t like to smoke alone :P
[06:22] <se7en^Of^9> i have done apt-get -f install and fix-missing doesn't work
[06:22] <titanix88> miles fixes broken dependencies
[06:22] <miles> ok thx
[06:24] <titanix88> moody rejected by a girl?i remember myself being a linux geek for same reason.:)
[06:24] <titanix88> se7 trying from a repo?
[06:24] <titanix88> se7 trying from a repo?
[06:25] <moody> titanix88:  great lolc :D
[06:25] <moody> ok , where is flame , there is - cheers :C
[06:26] <TooEarly> jhutchins: are you around?
[06:27] <TooEarly> or does anyone in here use tovid GUI? or another dvd video burning program
[06:29] <titanix88> se7en^of^9 trying from a repo?
[06:30] <titanix88> hi tooearly
[06:30] <TooEarly> hi titanix88
[06:31] <nagahama> hello?
[06:33] <nagahama> hello?
[06:33] <titanix88> hello!
[06:33] <nagahama> yes hi
[06:34] <nagahama> is this for ubuntu?
[06:34] <titanix88> more preciously for kubuntu
[06:34] <nagahama> hi..
[06:34] <nagahama> oh
[06:34] <nagahama> do u know
[06:34] <nagahama> the channel
[06:34] <nagahama> for ubuntu?
[06:34] <jsabo> I'm having issues with file sharing from my windows machines connecting to kubuntu.
[06:34] <nagahama> i need help installing beryl :S
[06:35] <nagahama> titanix u know any of the administrators?
[06:35] <titanix88> nagahama #ubuntu
[06:35] <miles> well if #kubuntu is the channel for kubuntu...i wonder what ubuntus irc is
[06:35] <WaltzingAlong> miles pick me!!! i know !!! #ubuntu !!
[06:35] <jsabo> it's asking for a username on my windows machince
[06:36] <jsabo> what do i put in as the user to connect to my share on kubuntu
[06:36] <WaltzingAlong> jsabo: which type of share?
[06:36] <jsabo> smb
[06:36] <titanix88> nagahama go to ubuntu forams for compiz fusion
[06:37] <bobby123> um
[06:37] <bobby123> on the net?
[06:37] <bobby123> boby = nagahama
[06:37] <WaltzingAlong> tis all on the net
[06:37] <bobby123> ok i'm very new to this lopl
[06:37] <WaltzingAlong> well or #beryl
[06:37] <vzduch> WaltzingAlong: how about #ubuntu-effects?
[06:38] <bobby123> waltiz
[06:38] <bobby123> can i ask you something
[06:38] <WaltzingAlong> yes?
[06:38] <WaltzingAlong> vzduch: or that
[06:39] <titanix88> compiz fusion is built on top of beryl and faster
[06:39] <miles> titanix88: i originally used beryl, switched to compiz could i heard they were remerging, and compiz kinda blows compared to beryl
[06:39] <miles> so i switched back
[06:39] <miles> it ran like crap for me
[06:39] <titanix88> bobby u can google to find a lot of good tuto
[06:41] <titanix88> miles compiz{shit}+beryl{juicy}=compiz fusion{great}
[06:42] <stdin> !language
[06:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:42] <miles> o.........
[06:42] <miles> i wonder, maybe i got compiz, and not compiz-fusion
[06:42] <miles> !find compiz-fusion
[06:42] <ubotu> Package/file compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty
[06:42] <titanix88> stdin sorry!!!!
[06:43] <miles> the only thing i liked about compiz that beryl didnt have was the os x show desktop
[06:44] <titanix88> miles compiz fusion actually means compiz+compiz-extra-plugins
[06:44] <miles> o.......yea, the compiz i got seemed kinda scarce
[06:45] <miles> i guess that is where the fusion comes in,no?
[06:45] <titanix88> miles yes beryl=compiz extra
[06:46] <miles> beryl still runs better than compiz tho...
[06:47] <unclephreak> whats up peoples?
[06:47] <stdin> miles: you mean #ubuntu-effects ?
[06:48] <miles> yea whatd i say?
[06:48] <miles> ive never been in there, only seen it flash by
[06:48] <titanix88> miles i have a nv mx4000 and both of them but cf seems more reliable,smooth and faster.
[06:48] <jsabo> should I do simple sharing or advance sharing?
[06:48] <miles> 7900gt <--
[06:49] <stdin> general channels are always ubuntu ones (the exceptions being #ubuntu and #ubuntu-devel)
[06:49] <unclephreak> anyone seen the new version of devede? and any bugs? (3.1)
[06:49] <TheCreationist> Anyone know how to get full ANSI support for telnet?  I've tried using the console ("telnet"), QTerm, and a few others, but none of them display properly.
[06:49] <miles> compiz seemed to look smoother as i rotated the cube...but it craps out if i got more than 2 windows open, beryl can handle more windows easily
[06:50] <robotgeek> TheCreationist: try rxvt-unicode
[06:51] <titanix88> thecreationist u mean unicode right?(cause ansi is what most app in the world supports!)
[06:51] <TheCreationist> titanix88: I just mean that when I telnet into a BBS, most of the ANSI graphics are displayed crazily.
[06:52] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: That will work with any app I use after installing that?
[06:52] <robotgeek> TheCreationist: its just a console, so i guess so
[06:53] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: Oh, okay.
[06:53] <titanix88> miles try compiz fusion. it's better.
[06:53] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: Well, that still didn't work.
[06:54] <miles> yea, im about to reformat, i guess if you install 32bit kubuntu on AMD64, you can run flash
[06:54] <miles> big mistake on my part
[06:54] <stdin> miles: you can run flash on amd64
[06:54] <robotgeek> miles: why not try gnash?
[06:54] <stdin> !flash64 | miles
[06:54] <ubotu> miles: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:56] <miles> robotgeek, i got gnash, it blows
[06:57] <titanix88> i wonder does all apps in duel core linux uses both of them simutaneously? xp can't do that
[06:57] <miles> stdin, i think read that tutorial before, im just gonna reformat...
[06:57] <stdin> miles: up to you, but that works
[06:57] <miles> i dont feel like doing a work around...64bit processors are nothin but hype anyways
[06:57] <vzduch> titanix88: well, the apps only ask the kernel for CPU resources, it's the kernel that distributes them
[06:57] <miles> titanix88, linux will handle as many cores as you can throw at it
[06:57] <stdin> titanix88: I'd think the kernel would decide what goes where
[06:58] <miles> i know when you compile stuff, you can specify how many cores you want to use
[06:58] <stdin> miles: you can choose how many threads, not cores
[06:59] <titanix88> that's the advantage.in xp to use duel core, the app must do it by itself.
[06:59] <miles> stdin, pretty sure you can specify number of cores
[06:59] <stdin> I doubt it
[06:59] <miles> i think its "-j <<# of cores>>"
[06:59] <stdin> miles: no, that's threads -j
[07:00] <carlos> Alguin sabe como se llama el .iso en donde estan los paquetes de complementacion del buntu 7.04
[07:00] <unclephreak> wha?
[07:00] <unclephreak> que?
[07:01] <titanix88> miles why not use 64bit version of ubuntu?
[07:01] <miles> i am using the 64bit
[07:01] <miles> stdin, u pulled a fast one on me
[07:01] <TheCreationist> How do I enable IBM extended ASCII in telnet clients?
[07:01] <miles> linux kernel in a nutshell says "-jx" is used to make compilation multithreaded, where x = number of processors to use
[07:02] <miles> so its 1 thread/core...i guess u could say we were both right, u more so than i
[07:02] <titanix88> read man telnet
[07:02] <stdin> :)
[07:02] <miles> touchette
[07:05] <titanix88> most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...
[07:06] <underdog5004> vista doesn't use more than one core if the license isn't for more than one core...
[07:06] <miles> titanix88, not that im tits at computers, but most people wouldnt know what to do with more than 1 core
[07:08] <vzduch> [07:05:51]  < titanix88> most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...  most ppl of the world cannot take advantage of dual core as they don't have a dual core CPU ;)
[07:08] <titanix88> i know what they do.they say"i have dual core!!"
[07:08] <carlos> como puedo conseguir el resto de paquetes de ubunto que no bienen con el cd
[07:08] <robotgeek> !es
[07:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <miles> !es | carlos
[07:08] <ubotu> carlos: please see above
[07:08] <carlos> ubuntu perdon
[07:08] <titanix88> vzduch lol :)
[07:08] <miles> does anyone think its funny his name is carlos and he speaks spanish?
[07:08] <unclephreak> most people dont take advantage of having a 1Ghz processor running xp
[07:08] <kalorin`> I just want to overlock my opteron
[07:09] <kalorin`> it's a wee bit overclocked now but I want to put it up like 2.66hz
[07:09] <kalorin`> ghz rather
[07:09] <kalorin`> it's not like the good ol' days anymore
[07:09] <kalorin`> too much frustration trying to oc' them
[07:10] <patrick_> hey folks. how does one enable 'show hidden files and folders' in Konq in KDE4?
[07:10] <atrocity> anybody know how to make a webpage viewed in firefox for windows look the same under linux?
[07:10] <atrocity> as in...font differences
[07:10] <atrocity> using just standard web-fonts
[07:11] <underdog5004> patrick_, View -> Hidden Files and Folders
[07:11] <stdin> don't use proprietary fonts and they'll look the same
[07:11] <patrick_> underdog5004: i don't have that option
[07:11] <patrick_> oh boy...
[07:11] <underdog5004> patrick_, h/o
[07:11] <Carnage\> Don't put any html between <body> and </body> *scnr* :)
[07:11] <Carnage\> atrocity: You may try setting the same default fonts
[07:11] <titanix88> kalorin` there is a processor freq controler in "ubuntu"
[07:12] <patrick_> underdog5004: dont see that
[07:12] <rodrigo> hi any one can help me with adept installer
[07:12] <kalorin`> atrocity: render it as a .pdf :)
[07:12] <kalorin`> titanix88?
[07:12] <atrocity> lol
[07:12] <atrocity> OK :P
[07:12] <underdog5004> patrick_, View -> Show Hidden Files
[07:12] <kalorin`> freq controller?
[07:12] <patrick_> underdog i followed the instructions on the web page to install KDE4. i rebooted
[07:12] <patrick_> it's .. missing things
[07:12] <patrick_> my konversation is missing my identity and settings
[07:13] <underdog5004> patrick_, try asking in the kde channel...kde4 is still very beta
[07:13] <patrick_> did i do something wrong perhaps?
[07:13] <patrick_> ok i think i'll go back to 3.x
[07:13] <underdog5004> you installed kde4
[07:13] <patrick_> thanks
[07:13] <underdog5004> lol
[07:13] <underdog5004> np
[07:13] <patrick_> :D
[07:13] <stdin> rodrigo: ask your question
[07:13] <titanix88> it is an applet.
[07:13] <kalorin`> oh yeah for laptops
[07:13] <kalorin`> this is a desktop
[07:13] <kalorin`> with an opteron 165
[07:13] <rodrigo> stdin: it looks that the software doesn't upload the new packages
[07:13] <stdin> titanix88: that's not for overclocking either
[07:14] <stdin> rodrigo: what do you mean?
[07:14] <kalorin`> it's stock at 1.86ghz but it will run solid at nearly 3ghz if you can get the ram and everything worked out and cooperating
[07:14] <kalorin`> but it's a ton of trial and error :(
[07:14] <rodrigo> stdin: iI fetch updates
[07:15] <titanix88> stdin apolizes for not knowing that
[07:15] <miles> !es | rodrigo
[07:15] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:15] <rodrigo> stdin: I press full upgrade
[07:15] <Scorpaen> ahhhh
[07:15] <Scorpaen> much better
[07:15] <Scorpaen> KDE4 is too beta for this patrick_
[07:15] <Scorpaen> heh
[07:15] <rodrigo> stdin: and it doesn't do anything
[07:15] <rodrigo> lol my english is so bad???
[07:16] <stdin> rodrigo: that means that there are no updates for you right now
[07:16] <kalorin`> !jive
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <stdin> rodrigo: your english is fine
[07:16] <kalorin`> ;)
[07:16] <unclephreak> are your universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[07:16] <rodrigo> stdin: ok thanks!
[07:18] <Tokal> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[07:18] <stdin> !ops | titanix88
[07:18] <ubotu> titanix88: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[07:18] <vzduch> stdin: too late :P
[07:18] <robotgeek> stdin: what?
[07:18] <underdog5004> what the heck was that?
[07:19] <underdog5004> whoa...it was a bot command...
[07:19] <underdog5004> I feel smarter already...
[07:19] <stdin> robotgeek: ug, too late, was half way between channels then
[07:19] <unclephreak> hey stdin i just got a dvd burner and converted a few avi files to dvd format and burned them.  my dvd player recognizes that it's a dvd but keeps giving the message "wrong disk" any idea of why this is oging on?
[07:19] <unclephreak> going on too
[07:20] <titanix88> stdin: my apologies isn't from fear,just genuine.
[07:21] <unclephreak> is it something with the authoring, or do i need to make a dvd menu  so my player knows where to start playing or something?
[07:21] <WaltzingAlong> ubotu: we should really change the name from factoids
[07:21] <titanix88> lol
[07:22] <vzduch> *omfg* the Pope has been nominated 'accessory wearer of the year 2007' for wearing red shoes under his garment..
[07:22] <hasan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:22] <hasan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:22] <hasan> bot: help me
[07:22] <stdin> unclephreak: i wouldn't know, it would depend on the player
[07:22] <WaltzingAlong> ruby red, of course!
[07:22] <vzduch> !aptfix | hasan
[07:22] <ubotu> hasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:23] <unclephreak> no worries.  i just installed devede 3.1..  im gonna give that a shot.  cos i know my dvd player plays burned dvds.  i can copy them just fine, but i think theres something going on wiht the authoring
[07:24] <WaltzingAlong> unclephreak: i have had lots of success on conversions with devede, feel free to post the results
[07:26] <unclephreak> yea, i love devede, i mean it worked awesome for making vcds and svcds just fine and they all played...  im converting a file right now, i'll let you know how it goes.  im gonna try putting in menus this time tho.  devede 3.1 has menus and a couple extras i saw
[07:29] <titanix88> oooopsss...how does it sound?:)
[07:33] <dvm> How can I enable the GTK Text Entry widget to accept Unicode Charaters?
[07:34] <titanix88> anyone there?
[07:34] <vzduch> the westher is cr*p and I gotta go.. l8ter :)
[07:35] <titanix88> dvm it does by default.
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> what is westher?
[07:36] <titanix88> ??
[07:37] <dvm> titanix88, But, i can't type in local language in gtk text entry, i can able to type other places like gedit etc.
[07:37] <titanix88> dvm are u a developer?
[07:38] <dvm> titanix88, ya
[07:39] <titanix88> outof my scope dude.consult a gtk developer manual or irc or mailing list.
[07:39] <dvm> titanix88, is their any property, i need to enable?
[07:41] <titanix88> dvm: maybe wide character support(from my little programming knowledge)
[07:42] <dvm> titanix88, I couldn't type, but, i can able to copy and paste unicode(tamil) chars
[07:43] <sirjoshimus> anyone here know how to get wine to work right on 64-bit amd?
[07:44] <stdin> sirjoshimus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 ?
[07:45] <sirjoshimus> thanks
[07:47] <titanix88> dvm: i use bagla everywhere on my ubuntu.no problem
[07:47] <dvm> titanix88, thnx man, let me try
[07:48] <titanix88> dvm: what for:?
[07:51] <purpleposeidon> !zork
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <titanix88> dvm: i guess ur thnx means "no thnx,u already doubled my comfusion" lol :D
[08:07] <miles> ok
[08:08] <mecannotread> guys i need shockwave plugin where can i get it
[08:08] <stdin> you can't
[08:09] <mecannotread> stdin  : you meant icant get it
[08:09] <stdin> mecannotread: adobe don't make shockwave for linux
[08:09] <stdin> mecannotread: only flash
[08:10] <mecannotread> stdin: ok i want to play flashgames on the www.miniclip.com  but i need flash
[08:10] <stdin> flash you can get from the package flashplugin-nonfree, but not shockwave
[08:10] <mecannotread> stdin: is there a replacement  for that
[08:11] <mecannotread> stdin: should i do it by apt-get
[08:11] <stdin> yeah
[08:11] <stdin> it's in multiverse
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:11] <mecannotread> stdin ok thanks  for info...
[08:13] <hasan> hi gusy
[08:13] <hasan> how can i make stardict stay on top of other windows ?
[08:14] <stdin> hasan: right click the window title (or press Alt-F3) > advance > keep above others
[08:15] <hasan> stdin:thx
[08:19] <pierre__> anyone know of a way to make the kde clock match my taskbar_
[08:19] <pierre__> ?|
[08:29] <hasan> find /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print
[08:30] <hasan> why that does not files starting with star and with tar.bz2 extension in my home directory ?
[08:30] <hasan> hasan@truefx:~/downloads$ find /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print
[08:30] <hasan> find: paths must precede expression
[08:30] <hasan> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression]
[08:30] <gsevil> after run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my screen refresh rate only 60Hz, I restore the old xorg.conf file, but it didn't return to normal. Windows is running well
[08:32] <stdin> hasan: put it in quotes -name "star*.tar.bz2"
[08:34] <pierre__> adept broke my system
[08:34] <pierre__> :(
[08:35] <Daisuke_Ido> how so?
[08:37] <pierre__> it asked me to update and i said yes
[08:37] <pierre__> then it crashed and now i cant use apt-get
[08:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !aptfix
[08:37] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:39] <pierre__> it just spits out /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/N: failed to write cache
[08:45] <persen> Hi, just removed my soundcard and try to use my usb-soundcard instead. But the mixers (alsagui and kmix) cant find any sound devices it looks like.. The USB soundcard is recognized in "lsusb" as "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0582:0011 Roland Corp. Edirol UA-5 Sound Capture".
[08:45] <persen> Any tips on how to "enable" this soundcard? it should work out-of-the-box with the usb-snd driver i think
[08:47] <zero1328> um, does anyone here know about the kde sound system? I checked and it was called "aRTs" or something
[08:47] <underdog5004> !arts
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <underdog5004> !alsa
[08:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:48] <zero1328> um.. It's not that I have a problem with it, i'm wondering what the command is to use it from something like the terminal
[08:48] <stdin> yes , aRts the "analog real time sound" system
[08:48] <stdin> artsd
[08:48] <stdin> the arts daemon
[08:49] <zero1328> I want to play this ogg file on my gmail notification program, but I don't know what to put in
[08:49] <zero1328> aplay churns out static for an ogg, but it's fine for a wav
[08:50] <stdin> that's because aplay is for wavs
[08:50] <zero1328> I've realised that through trial and error
[08:50] <stdin> try "oggdec filename.ogg -o - | aplay - "
[08:51] <stdin> or just install sox and use "play filename.ogg"
[08:52] <zero1328> hm.. being a newb I don't understand half of the first command you gave me, but I'll try sox instead
[08:54] <persen> Doesnt XMMS support OGG ?
[08:54] <stdin> zero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )
[08:54] <persen> or amarok
[08:54] <stdin> persen: from the command line?
[08:55] <persen> Dont think so
[08:55] <pan> Question- how do I change KDE's default filemanager to Dolphin?
[08:55] <stdin> then that's not what he wants
[08:55] <persen> ok
[08:55] <zero1328> if you look up a little, I'm trying to set my gmail notifier to play a sound, and that requires putting in a command
[08:56] <stdin> pan: (in konqueror), settings > configure konqueror > File Associations > inode > directory
[08:59] <persen> Hm, under Sound in KInfoCenter my USB sound card is listed in the "Audio devices:" section. And it is the only device that is listed.  Under "Mixers:" i see a USB Mixer listing. But i get no sound output. Anyone know of what i might do to enable this sound device ?
[09:00] <jmdwyer> evening kubuntu peeples
[09:01] <jmdwyer> evening kubuntu people
[09:01] <jmdwyer> question.....rockwell isa modem, can it be done?
[09:02] <robotgeek> jmdwyer: i would recommend you look on the wiki, i am not sure offhand
[09:02] <jmdwyer> I'm wikified
[09:02] <jmdwyer> I got a conexant to do the trick but I beat my head against rockwells for about 3 days with the wiki
[09:02] <persen> nice ! it works now.. needed to asoundconf set-default-card UA5 !
[09:03] <jmdwyer> btw fyi 233 pentium ibm thinkpad 770 running kubuntu here
[09:03] <jmdwyer> and doing fairly well
[09:04] <jmdwyer> good job persen
[09:04] <pierre__> i think adept broke my system
[09:04] <jmdwyer> no, adept did not break your system
[09:04] <pierre__> i tried to do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:04] <jmdwyer> and?
[09:04] <pierre__> ./usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[09:05] <jmdwyer> apt-get -f install
[09:05] <jmdwyer> maybe?
[09:05] <zero1328> thanks for the help stdin, both work equally well. hm, gotta write it down somewhere...
[09:05] <stdin> zero1328: the command line is all powerful :p
[09:05] <jmdwyer> woohoo command line is king
[09:06] <pierre__> jmdwyer: getting the same errors
[09:06] <jmdwyer> unomomento
[09:06] <pag> pierre__, which errors? (sorry, just joined)
[09:06] <jmdwyer> dernit I dont know the clear-all for dpkg right off the top of my head
[09:07] <jmdwyer> its something to the order of dpkg --clear something, someone help me I'm fuzzy
[09:07] <pierre__> pag i\ll upload it to bash... sec
[09:08] <pierre__> i mean pastebin :P
[09:08] <pierre__> http://pastebin.com/m2c0369cf
[09:08] <Daisuke_Ido> why is apt throwing out font errors?
[09:09] <pierre__> dont know, im new
[09:09] <pag> jmdwyer, sudo apt-get clean  ?
[09:09] <Daisuke_Ido> weird...
[09:09] <pierre__> maybe i need a reboot?
[09:10] <pag> pierre__, try reinstalling OOo (or just remove it, if you don't need it)
[09:10] <pierre__> ok here goes
[09:11] <ben__> hey, can someone help me? My floppy won't mount, the light glows continulously
[09:11] <pag> !floppy | ben__
[09:11] <ubotu> ben__: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:11] <jmdwyer> is the cable on backward ben?
[09:11] <pierre__> pag:
[09:11] <pierre__> Updating fontconfig cache...
[09:11] <pierre__> /usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[09:12] <jmdwyer> red line away from power on floppies
[09:12] <pag> pierre__, so still the same?
[09:12] <pierre__> pag:  yup..
[09:12] <pierre__> that horrible adept program should be removed from kubuntu
[09:12] <jmdwyer> adept is evil, use apt-get
[09:13] <pierre__> well if its in the OS it should be stable
[09:13] <pierre__> imo
[09:13] <pag> pierre__, " find /usr/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d -type d -print0 | xargs --null touch "  (from the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/122976 I hope it also works)
[09:14] <persen> how do i check my CPU speed from the command line?
[09:14] <jbrouhard> type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:14] <jmdwyer> pierre have you tried dpkg --clear-avail then apt-get update?
[09:15] <jmdwyer> then apt-get -f install
[09:16] <jmdwyer> ben you with us?
[09:16] <ben__> im back now sorry
[09:16] <jmdwyer> was the cable backerds?
[09:17] <ben__> I edited my /etc/fstab file and that made no difference
[09:17] <zero1328> argh, clumsy, clumsy me. I forgot to copy what stdin said, describing what that command did.. could someone copy paste that for me? I was gonna write it down
[09:17] <jmdwyer> solid light from power on till the cows come home right?
[09:18] <jmdwyer> ben?
[09:18] <ben__> no, just when i run the mount command jmdwyer
[09:18] <jmdwyer> oic
[09:19] <ben__> I type the command in (sudo mount /media/floppy0/) and command line gives no respose, it prety much freezes
[09:19] <stdin> zero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )
[09:20] <zero1328> phew, thank you very much again
[09:20] <stdin> :)
[09:21] <jmdwyer> ben what distro?
[09:21] <ben__> kubuntu
[09:21] <ben__> 7.04
[09:21] <jmdwyer> feisty ok
[09:21] <jmdwyer> lemme see breezy had an issue
[09:21] <ben__> yea hmmm, I tryed various commands to get it to go
[09:22] <ben__> mount /dev/fp0/
[09:22] <ben__> I tells me when there is no disk in there
[09:22] <jmdwyer> "/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto,umsdos,vfat,ext2 rw,user,noauto 0 0" in the fstab?
[09:23] <ben__> no I have only been using auto
[09:24] <ben__> which should work :s but i will try your way
[09:25] <ben__> jmdwyer: unfortunatly it's still doing the same old bs
[09:27] <ben__> What would I type into terminal to get the ls -l output for the floppy?
[09:27] <ben__> cd into /media/floppy0/ then use ls -l??
[09:29] <pag> ben__, either thet or  ls -l /media/floppy0/
[09:29] <Daisuke_Ido> what's this "floppy" thing you're talking about?
[09:30] <Daisuke_Ido> do i jhave to use !language ?
[09:30] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry.  the later it gets the worse the jokes get.  i'm going to bed
[09:31] <jmdwyer> after a reboot?
[09:31] <jmdwyer> I know reboots are for windows users but.....
[09:31] <ben__> I'm trying to mount my floppy disk Dai, atmitantly only so I can install xp sata drivers on install
[09:31] <ben__> Ofcorse I won't be removing linux ;)
[09:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ben__: installing xp in vmware?
[09:32] <ben__> no on the hdd
[09:32] <jmdwyer> so you are attempting to install xp drivers in your froppy dlive?
[09:32] <ben__> I want to play games, and linux has shit games
[09:32] <jmdwyer> point
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> unreal tournament?
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> doom 3?  quake 4?  enemy territory?  MINESWEEPER?
[09:33] <ben__> Well my motherboard does not emulate IDE, and xp has no sata drivers, so I press F6 and insert a floppy before its installing
[09:33] <jloden> I had a power outage last night, and the UPS totally failed to keep my kubuntu machine from losing power and shutting down, and it seems to have royally screwed up my partitions
[09:33] <jmdwyer> what exactly do you need other than whats in the repository for quake2?
[09:33] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: the game
[09:33] <Daisuke_Ido> all the data files
[09:33] <jmdwyer> aso, I see the rub
[09:33] <jloden> I am just interested at this point in salvaging as much of my /home as I can, and I am not sure how to proceed
[09:33] <ben__> I play fear, unfortunatly cedega does not support it
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> just because it's not supported doesn't mean it won't run
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i play S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> not supported
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but it works like a charm
[09:34] <jloden> I ran fsck on the drive which took most of the entire day, then gave up on that and reinstalled kubuntu on top of the original / partition (/dev/sda1)
[09:34] <ben__> but won't performance suffer?
[09:34] <ben__> I really need high fps
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> a lot of games actually run BETTER under wine or cedega than they do in windows
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and if not better, the performance is pretty close
[09:35] <ben__> vista or xp
[09:35] <jloden> so now I'm trying to restore any data I can from /dev/sda3 but I can't seem to mount the partition or do anything else with it...anyone have any tips or pointers?
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> because it's not an emulator
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> xp
[09:35] <ben__> cool
[09:35] <ben__> yea it's a library I know
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> jloden: can you use dd?
[09:35] <solid_liq> jloden: try to dd it,then play with the dd image
[09:36] <jloden> well, I have a full working system installed, so I have access to dd
[09:36] <ben__> Anyway looks like I'll have to use someone elses computer for floppies :p
[09:36] <jloden> but I'm not sure how I would go about copying my files off of a damaged partition using it
[09:36] <ben__> jmdwyer: Thanks for trying to help me though, I really apreciate it
[09:36] <jloden> I've only ever used dd for creating sparse files and stuff like that
[09:36] <jmdwyer> quite welcome ben
[09:37] <jmdwyer> I'm kinda new to ubuntu ben, so my help is limited but I try
[09:37] <Daisuke_Ido> can one create another partition and use dd to image the bad partition to the new one?
[09:37] <jmdwyer> been around since breezy
[09:38] <jmdwyer> can one possibly rsync the stuff out?
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> new != been around since the second release :D
[09:38] <jmdwyer> well....yes
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been an on and off user since hoary
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> every six months or so i would dual boot, install ubuntu, not use it, and trash the partiton
[09:39] <jmdwyer> I went to the dark side for a while got an mcse and came back in time for dapper
[09:39] <jloden> dd's not a bad suggestion, since it can do raw copy it doesn't need to mount the drive to copy
[09:39] <jloden> I'll try googling and see what I can find
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> then edgy came out and i said to myself, "self, you're going to get rid of windows"
[09:39] <jmdwyer> google is your freyund
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> so i did.
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that was 10 months ago
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> and i haven't looked back
[09:40] <jmdwyer> I said self, I'm going to make a living off that rotten bug ridden piece of trash called windows and populate my house with ubuntu boxes
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: essentially what i did
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> except for making a living.  i have to use it for school.  in vmware.
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i won't install it on my lappy
[09:41] <jmdwyer> my lappy wont DO windows
[09:41] <jmdwyer> well 98 maybe
[09:41] <Daisuke_Ido> bought an ubuntu dell :D
[09:41] <Ayabara> does kmail have any support for microsoft exchange?
[09:41] <jmdwyer> I got a circa (note the use of the word circa here) 1997 Pentium 233 IBM Thinkpad 770
[09:41] <jmdwyer> with kubuntu full blown on it
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: that's a hot machine :)
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> all i have to say is: old games :D
[09:42] <jmdwyer> 233 256 megs of ram, 20gb hdd 13.3 1024x768
[09:43] <jmdwyer> for 20 bux, it rock
[09:43] <jmdwyer> s
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> oh wow
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd love to get my hands on one like that
[09:43] <jmdwyer> lemme talk to my guy, he's got a pile of em
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> heh
[09:43] <jmdwyer> literally
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm off to bed now, but i'm always around
[09:43] <jmdwyer> g-nite
[09:44] <jmdwyer> I'll be on this channel more frequently now that I decided to irc again
[09:48] <saman> anybody knows how one can run 2 kde at the same time by using ctrl+alt+(one of the Fbuttons)
[09:49] <saman> ???
[09:50] <thatguy42> nope
[09:52] <jloden> saman: can you just start a new KDE session and switch between them using Switch User ?
[09:52] <DjDarkman> hy, how can I access a shared printer on the network from a windows system?
[09:53] <saman> hmm... but the thing is... I need to start the other kde with the same user...
[09:53] <saman> ... from the terminal
[09:58] <solid_liq> saman: why don't you just use xnest?
[10:04] <saman> xnest?
[10:04] <saman> whats that? is it to complicated to start kde from a terminal?
[10:04] <stdin> xnest is old, use Xepher
[10:04] <stdin> !info xserver-xepher
[10:04] <ubotu> Package xserver-xepher does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:05] <stdin> uhh
[10:05] <stdin> !info xserver-xephyr
[10:05] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Next Generation Nested X Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 1523 kB, installed size 3844 kB
[10:07] <harmental> hey guys...is there any way to beautify the logoff screen??
[10:07] <stdin> close your eyes and think of a meadow?
[10:19] <Assid> close your eyes and think of a meadow ?!?!?
[10:20] <stdin> it took you 12 mins to reply :p
[10:20] <Assid> i was reading the article about con leaving the kernel hackers
[10:21] <Assid> and basically how his patches helped the cpu scheduler improve for desktop users
[10:21] <persen> Who is con ?
[10:21] <stdin> well anyway, I'm not sure how to change the logoff screen, but I'd bet the #kde people do
[10:23] <llutz> persen:  Con Kolivas
[10:23] <Assid> his patches are marked as -ck
[10:28] <Assid> they shouldnt have mocked his beliefs..
[10:30] <Assid> if they atleast thought the user interface should have higher cpu schedule control.. that would make it on par with the macs
[10:31] <Assid> like if i copy a file across.. would be nice that the scheduler still gives my ui more preferances than the actual copy process.. just slow the copying instead
[10:37] <filipe_> Is there a way to change the priority with which spamassassin runs from kmail?
[10:38] <RivaeAerya> How do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?
[10:40] <adenicio> !python
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <stdin> RivaeAerya: erm "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.smc" "
[10:41] <RivaeAerya> stdin: quite a complicated one..
[10:41] <stdin> yeah, but it works :)
[10:41] <RivaeAerya> i'll try it
[10:42] <RivaeAerya> [10:41]  <sauvin> RivaeAerya, ls | grep -v \.smc
[10:42] <RivaeAerya> hmm
[10:42] <sauvin> I'm here, too.
[10:42] <sauvin> What's the problem?
[10:43] <RivaeAerya> [10:42]  <RivaeAerya> sauvin: how would i make it rename things?\
[10:43] <stdin> RivaeAerya: the . means the current directory, -maxdepth 1 means only in that dir (not any lower), -type f means files, "-not -name "*.smc" " means thing that aren't called *.smc
[10:43] <filipe_> stdin doesn't that just catches all the files that do not end in smc?
[10:43] <llutz> filipe_: ^^ it does
[10:43] <stdin> RivaeAerya: you can add -exec to it to make it run command
[10:43] <filipe_> but that was not the question i think
[10:43] <llutz> it will also find foo.bar, urgend.txt ...
[10:44] <stdin> filipe_: [09:38]  <RivaeAerya> How do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> llutz: no problem, in that directory only .smc files are.
[10:44] <llutz> RivaeAerya: you are searching for files without any extension to rename them?
[10:44] <mecannotread> how do i activate the choosen theme in emeral themer
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> llutz: yes
[10:44] <filipe_> "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc ; i think is what you want
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> i'll try
[10:45] <filipe_> although i liked screwed up escapes and such
[10:45] <stdin> filipe_: no, that will work
[10:45] <stdin> filipe_: opps, no you need \;
[10:45] <RivaeAerya> find: ontbrekend argument van '-exec'
[10:45] <RivaeAerya> translation: "Missing parameter from -exec"
[10:45] <llutz> "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;
[10:46] <llutz>   find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;
[10:46] <filipe_> yea i knew i screwed up some escaping :)
[10:46] <RivaeAerya> llutz: that works :)
[10:46] <RivaeAerya> llutz: thanks :)
[10:46] <sauvin> llutz, you've just told me I need to spend some quality time with the man pages for find.
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> yep, really worked :)
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> thanks llutz
[10:47] <llutz> RivaeAerya: thank sauvin . his cmd
[10:47] <adenicio> help!how do i get back my desktop it gone black
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> thanks sauvin
[10:47] <llutz> err filipe_:
[10:48] <llutz> <- time for a coffee
[10:48] <RivaeAerya> lol, thanks filipe_
[10:48] <sauvin> I didn't give that command. All I gave was a way for filtering out smc files in the current directory WITHOUT renaiming.
[10:49] <adenicio> help!how do i get back my desktop it gone black
[10:49] <adenicio> how do i get it back?
[10:49] <filipe_> You're welcome :). And thanks the others for the valuable \ :)
[10:49] <persen> What program do i need to check my cpu temp ?
[10:50] <filipe_> persen lmsensors
[10:50] <persen> tnx
[10:50] <stdin> there are a few, ksensors may be good (uses lmsensors)
[10:50] <dhq> which is the best typing tutor in kubuntu
[10:50] <stdin> IRC
[10:51] <stdin> you learn how to type by doing :p
[10:51] <llutz> lol
[10:51] <dhq> stdin, ???
[10:51] <dhq> stdin, no for me for my nephew
[10:52] <playa> hallo kann mir jemand helfen ???
[10:52] <stdin> dhq: I'd think the people in #edubuntu would know better than me
[10:52] <stdin> !de | playa
[10:52] <ubotu> playa: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:52] <playa> thx
[10:53] <persen> Just read the con-kernelhacker article, to my surprise the linux scheduler is not targeted for responsive desktop use. I read somewhere in 2004 that the 2.6 version of linux should do just that.
[10:55] <emilsedgh> Could someone tell me how could I enabled the other Plasmoids of the Plasma in kde4 packages of Beta 1? Currently there is jyst the Clock..., and one more thing, The ExtraGear isnt packaged?
[10:56] <dhq> emilsedgh, howz kde4 whats new
[10:57] <emilsedgh> dhq: if you want to know whats new, you should read 'Road to KDE4' articles on the dot...
[10:58] <dhq> emilsedgh, link me
[10:58] <stdin> emilsedgh: there are no other packaged plasmoids right now
[10:58] <emilsedgh> dhq: ok wait a minute
[10:58] <dhq> ok
[10:59] <emilsedgh> stdin: and Extragear isnt packaged?
[10:59] <pag> dhq, http://dot.kde.org/ ;)
[10:59] <stdin> emilsedgh: nope
[11:00] <emilsedgh> stdin: Thanks very much...
[11:00] <stdin> emilsedgh: if you want a real kde4 experience you need to be running the svn version :)
[11:00] <emilsedgh> dhq: http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/dot?as_q=Road+To+KDE4&as_epq=&as_oq=dept.&as_eq=&num=100
[11:01] <emilsedgh> stdin: yes I know, but im on a damn Dialup connection, downloading Trunk is really hard...
[11:02] <adenicio_> stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?
[11:02] <Martiini> hei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)
[11:02] <emilsedgh> dhq: thats not all, they are just some of big steps, if you want to know all, read past 2-3 years Commit-Digest's (http://commit-digest.org)
[11:02] <stdin> adenicio_: sudo is the way
[11:02] <adenicio_> stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision to copy to it how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?
[11:03] <emilsedgh> mark__: run kpersonalizer
[11:03] <Martiini> emilsedgh: hei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)
[11:03] <stdin> emilsedgh: even if extragear was packaged, there would be no plasmoids in there :P they are all in svn right now (in the "playground")
[11:03] <pag> Martiini, install and run kpersonalizer
[11:03] <Martiini> :)
[11:03] <emilsedgh> Martiini: run kpersonalizer ..
[11:03] <Martiini> Danke
[11:03] <Martiini> thanks , bye
[11:04] <filipe_> adenicio use sudo -i to become root
[11:04] <emilsedgh> stdin: hey! I didnt download whole this only to test Plasmoids! millions of new things are here!
[11:04] <emilsedgh> stdin: I just wanted to test AmaroK, and Kaffeine, but it seems that Kaffeine4 is in playground too
[11:04] <Martiini>  .... I looked for that kpersonalizer setup window 5 hours last night :)
[11:05] <Martiini> should have come here straight :)
[11:05] <twosouls82> kpersonalizer is it called
[11:05] <stdin> emilsedgh: I guess that's what the kde4 beta1 live CD is for
[11:05] <twosouls82> safes time in the future
[11:05] <twosouls82> :)
[11:06] <emilsedgh> wihi, KDE Team did a really nice job! at last Bidi problems are solved in Kate and Konsole supports utf8 encoding and Bidi.It didnt work in Konsole of 3.x
[11:07] <emilsedgh> stdin: if i was able to download an Iso, then I was downloading svn Trunk! but yeah, thanks...
[11:07] <dromer> !bidi
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bidi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <dromer> anyone here with experience in running ubuntu (or other distro) on iMacs ?
[11:08] <emilsedgh> ubotu: Thats for who use a RTL language...
[11:08] <dromer> my youthcenter has a ton of iMacs htat everybody get's pissed on fer being 1) slow 2) retarded
[11:09] <stdin> emilsedgh: it would only take about 34 hours on 56k dialup :p
[11:09] <emilsedgh> fool me!
[11:09] <sito> who play it m4p in kubuntu
[11:09] <stdin> 600MB@5KB/s = ~34hours
[11:10] <emilsedgh> stdin: lol
[11:11] <emilsedgh> stdin: and then...that LiveCD doesnt support my Modem..., I cannot use it! :P
[11:12] <stdin> emilsedgh: you don't need the internet to test amarok :)
[11:13] <Martiini> Sorry, offtopic, Where is the biggest kde development community? Are there more KDE developers in Germany or USA or UK ?
[11:13] <emilsedgh> stdin: yes, but 1)It was unable to access my harddrive 2)I want to try things while I do other things, like now, I mean these Kubuntu packages where better experience that KDE 4 Live, I tried them on last Alpha's, Unusable...
[11:14] <emilsedgh> Martiini: AFAIK most of them are in north Europe, there is a map on Commit-digest.org that shows you this...
[11:15] <stdin> emilsedgh: the beta cd is better than the alpha1 or 2, but running kde4 in a little window in nice :)
[11:17] <emilsedgh> thats the point stdin, having both of them...testing dolphin while talking to you at here and listening to music..
[11:18] <tezza> anyone have problems with streaming videos off mounted smbfs shares?
[11:18] <tezza> every second or so it freezes for a split second
[11:24] <johannesNeu> hi guys! can someone help me - got my kubuntu gutsy with kd4-development snapshot3 - want to develop for kde4 now ... don't now which directories & stuff i should use
[11:24] <stdin> johannesNeu: #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <johannesNeu> stdin: thx
[11:50] <t> hola
[11:50] <t> hallo
[11:51] <t> Q es esto?????????
[11:52] <stdin> !es