[04:24] <moonlite> zack: by reading around i found out that this envy thing isn't officially supported. hm. i really see no reason to even use it. i always prefer to use the OS the way its intended
[04:24] <balster_neb> 1600!
[04:24] <moDumass> hey all so once i have this cairo clock installed how do i make it go?
[04:24] <ingo> n1
[04:24] <linuxactivist> psst, what JVM are you using... what's your java version
[04:24] <versix> mc44: that worked, thanks a lot for the help
[04:24] <capiira> wtf happen to ubuntu+1?
[04:24] <capiira> clear users
[04:24] <capiira> hehe
[04:24] <_Neil> anyone see feisty in update manager?
[04:24] <_Neil> :/
[04:24] <Bene17> anyone who know how to update ubuntu 7.04 Beta to Final Release?!
[04:24] <_Neil> i dont
[04:24] <fami> virdiq: yes,
[04:25] <prower> Seveas: I guess you didn't want to ruin the release party? ;>
[04:25] <coNP> capiira: gibbon fans are @ #ubuntu+2 :)
[04:25] <mc44> versix: great, thanks for pointing it out
[04:25] <kuba_> i've got a question: when i copy file using 'cp' what option i have to type if i want to see a status of copying(how much time remaining)???
[04:25] <psst> linuxactivist: an IBM JVM (came with the apps)
[04:25] <larryone> capiira, ubuntu+1 == ubuntu
[04:25] <zack> moonlite: na it isn't. i probably won't even use it for feisty in a new install
[04:25] <zach382> join the party at #ubuntu-release-party
[04:25] <sabdfl> Bene17: it should update automatically
[04:25] <dgold> everyone went to #ubuntu-release-party
[04:25] <capiira> lol
[04:25] <dgold> everyone went to #ubuntu-release-party
[04:25] <fami> virdiq: their keyboard is hoting
[04:25] <sabdfl> just fire up your package manager when you're connected to the net
[04:25] <strikerdmx> dos anybody know why "grub" don't load my windows?
[04:25] <capiira> :) that picky
[04:25] <psst> kuba_: not sure - try -v for verbose
[04:25] <hoagie> join the party at #ubuntu-release-party
[04:25] <maard> hi, xorg question: (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for virtual size)
[04:25] <virdiq> fami: i increased my scrollback buffer to 50000
[04:25] <_Neil> sabdfl: Should that work for edgy too? i see nothing
[04:25] <zbrown> In gnome, there's the CPU Frequency Scaling monitor, I know that in another distro I was able to tell the processors what speed I wanted them running out or what profile (ie: usermode, performance, powersave). In Ubuntu Feisty it shows me the speeds but its permanently set to "ondemand" mode. What should I install to enable functionality of controlling the profile of my processor's speedstep capabilities?
[04:25] <virdiq> to record the party
[04:25] <strikerdmx> #server
[04:25] <fami> virdiq: hehe
[04:26] <virdiq> i think i may need to make the scrollback more like 10,000,000
[04:26] <MacSlow> Cheers to the people behind putting 7.04 into your hands!
[04:26] <cables> zbrown, there's a package that lets you do that.
[04:26] <treylsu> is anyone getting dbus error when running 7.04 beta update manager
[04:26] <variant> virdiq: trye 5,000,000, that might just get it all :)
[04:26] <cables> zbrown, but i forget it
[04:26] <Bene17> how do i find out that the final release has been set up? because I didn't recognized an update progress..
[04:26] <zbrown> cables: ya i just don't knjow the package, im not sure what to look for
[04:26] <gils> what speed are you guys getting from these mirrors
[04:26] <zbrown> !scaling
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scaling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <linuxactivist> psst, what do you see if you type update-alternatives --list java in a terminal
[04:26] <FlimFlamMan> hello.  if i DL fiesty through a torrent, what's the best way to upgrade my edgy system from it?
[04:26] <zbrown> !help
[04:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:26] <variant> hah, ubunut+1 is gone already
[04:27] <larryone> ubuntu+1 == ubuntu
[04:27] <djm62> /joi #ubuntu-release-party
[04:27] <bushwakko> update-manager wont let me upgrade yet? is it normal?
[04:27] <poningru> zbrown: whatsup?
[04:27] <zbrown> poningru: hey, just trying to figure out how to control the scaling of my cpu
[04:27] <Lbawinowns_> How Can I download feisty, I see nothing in updatemanager
[04:27] <disasm> I guess I can't tell feisty users to go to ubuntu+1 anymore ;-)
[04:27] <plb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413591
[04:27] <Sarge> http://www.ubuntu.com/ has been updated!!!
[04:27] <acuster> wow, they took their main site down!? that wierd
[04:27] <zach382> www.ubuntu.com - download fiesty
[04:27] <poningru> zbrown: that should have worked out of the box... what cpu are you using?
[04:28] <zbrown> poningru: its permanently set to ondemand, but i'd like to be able to control that :)
[04:28] <fabiim> i'm having problem's updating my  edgy , i receive this message linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>-11.37_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[04:28] <zbrown> !find frequency
[04:28] <zbrown> poningru: core 2 duo
[04:28] <zbrown> err core duo
[04:28] <zbrown> sorry
[04:28] <capiira> now i'm curious to where *ubuntu will be catapulted on distro watch
[04:28] <FlimFlamMan> yippee  :-)
[04:28] <psst> I have java-1.5.0-sun j2re1.4-sun gij-wrapper-4.1 and java-gcj
[04:28] <JebJoya> wow, ubuntu.com looks scary :)
[04:28] <zbrown> poningru: it worked out of box with Mandriva, but i can't control the cpu with the freqency monitor
[04:28] <plb> acuster, low bandwidth version
[04:28] <Seveas> acuster, it couldn't cop with the load I guess :)
[04:28] <ubotu> File frequency found in r-cran-zoo
[04:28] <zbrown> !find cpu
[04:28] <ubotu> Found: xfce4-cpugraph-plugin, ascpu, cpu, cpuburn, cpudyn (and 17 others)
[04:28] <psst> linuxactivist: but there are at least another 5 SDKs on my machine
[04:28] <variant> Could not connect to ie.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out :E
[04:28] <poningru> zbrown: what do you mean you want to control?
[04:28] <laichzeit> I don't get it... the .iso from the 15th of April is the official release iso?
[04:29] <poningru> you want to enable the scaling right? automagic scaling right
[04:29] <poningru> laichzeit: yes
[04:29] <Amaranth> laichzeit: yes
[04:29] <psst> linuxactivist: I develop SDKs for a living
[04:29] <PlasmaFox> holy crap
[04:29] <Lbawinowns_> If I want download feisty from one of the menioned mirrors. What do I do?
[04:29] <PlasmaFox> 1600 users
[04:29] <virdiq> get it off a torrent
[04:29] <zbrown> poningru: well in the past you could control the profile and clock speed
[04:29] <virdiq> 3000 people leeching now
[04:29] <virdiq> and 1000 seeding
[04:29] <Amaranth> PlasmaFox: The US hasn't even woken up all the way yet, expect 200 more
[04:29] <linuxactivist> psst, I see.  I was just wondering if there was a conflict of some sort?
[04:29] <poorenglish_> PlasmaFox: y, lol
[04:29] <plb> I took a screenshot of 1600 users http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413591
[04:29] <laichzeit> damnit, I've it's been available the whole day :(
[04:29] <LjL> !traffic
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[04:29] <virdiq> (that is i386 btw)
[04:29] <poningru> zbrown: you can do that with a config file
[04:29] <linuxactivist> psst, I don't know why the java vm would cause ubuntu to reboot.  Sounds bad
[04:29] <duanerb> when is gutsy being released?
[04:29] <PlasmaFox> Amaranth, I am the US :p
[04:29] <poningru> but ...
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> duanerb: october
[04:30] <dalton1976> Somebody can help me with the following problem?:  My mouse stop to click on rdesktop.
[04:30] <docMuerto> Help to Shared, P2P ed2k://|file|ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso|731797504|E239215147FA03E5DB3D6C816291BFCA|h=2ZG5NL5GESHFR5NYUXF2AUZDDNICP4CR|/  (aMule or eMule)
[04:30] <duanerb> so far waway...
[04:30] <Slart> feisty is now available using the update manager
[04:30] <Slart> =)
[04:30] <moDumass> hmm, when i start cairo-clock in term i get an xml error, and can only have the clock open whilst the term is open
[04:30] <duanerb> dalton1976: try rebooting the X-Server if you don't have anything to lose
[04:30] <duanerb> (ctrl-alt-delete)
[04:30] <psst> linuxactivist: pretty sure that something is issuing TERM signals to everything.  The eclipse apps have a native wrapper that just shows a dialog when the underlying JVM quits in an unexpected way
[04:30] <keisha_22f> hell pll :)
[04:30] <duanerb> NOT backspace
[04:30] <disasm> when will #ubuntu+1 allow people to join? I like idling in there ;-)
[04:30] <_Neil> no feisty displayed on update manager? How can I get it back?
[04:31] <_Neil> ooh
[04:31] <_Neil> nm
[04:31] <protocol1> can I upgrade from this beta?
[04:31] <_Neil> tis there
[04:31] <VincentMX> hi
[04:31] <Lbawinowns_> ok. Yay it worked :), How Come it got  downloaded so fast :)?
[04:31] <dalton1976> i know but it happens too often, is anybody have a permanent solution?
[04:31] <jrib> protocol1: yes, just do a dist-upgrade
[04:31] <maddler> hmmm... how am I supposed to access kmilo config?
[04:31] <zbrown> poningru: aha, i needed to install cpufreqd
[04:31] <protocol1> or do I need to get the iso?
[04:31] <linuxactivist> does anybody know how to increase the logging level of ubuntu?
[04:31] <megafauna> do i upgrade with the live dvd/cd?
[04:31] <flodine> what happen ubuntu+1 room
[04:31] <virdiq> [ERROR] 	Connection to irc://freenode/ (irc://irc.freenode.net/) reset.
[04:31] <virdiq> anyone else get kicked?
[04:31] <jrib> flodine: #ubuntu is now support for feisty
[04:31] <linuxactivist> maybe we can capture more of what is going on
[04:31] <disasm> flodine: it doesn't exist for the next few days
[04:31] <linuxactivist> for psst
[04:31] <IdleOne> flodine, feisty is supported in here now
[04:31] <Bene17> how do I know, if im using the beta or the final?!!
[04:32] <keisha_22f> i want to download to download the finale release of ubuntu.  when i go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso the date is april 15? why is this?
[04:32] <chowmeined> wooo
[04:32] <chowmeined> 1600 people
[04:32] <Slart> flodine: I think they moved in here.. ubunutu+1 would be gusty g-animal now.. =)
[04:32] <LjL> virdiq: you were the victim of an IRC exploit, please join #ubuntu-read-topic and read the instructions
[04:32] <jrib> keisha_22f: www.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <fami> @party they're talking more drinking
[04:32] <AlexC_> holy crap, 1602 users?
[04:32] <dav7> wow
[04:32] <PriceChild> keisha_22f, because that's when it was made
[04:32] <prower> keisha_22f: That's the right one, even though they said it wasn't before the official news
[04:32] <protocol1> jrib, done that
[04:32] <Amaranth> Bene17: if you had the beta and have no updates then you have the final
[04:32] <_Neil> is it worth using update manager? if its going to go really slow..
[04:32] <dav7> what alot of users
[04:32] <micahcowan> Bene17, if you've been keeping up-to-date with the update-manager, hyou're running final ^_^
[04:32] <protocol1> I have it then?
[04:32] <poningru> Bene17: if you have upgraded all the way through then you are running the final
[04:32] <jrib> protocol1: then you are up to date
[04:32] <rage> Hey, I'm way behind on the times, does anyone know where a change log of 7.04 is? I want to know whats changed
[04:32] <linuxactivist> psst, perhaps writing a short script to take a regular look (sleep 1 to 5) of the process tree might not be a bad idea.
[04:32] <micahcowan> 1600 users, yeah: WOW
[04:32] <laichzeit> someone should just "touch" that damn .iso to stop confusion
[04:32] <dav7> w00t
[04:32] <Amaranth> rage: Probably in the release announcement in the topic :)
[04:32] <AlexC_> rage: http://www-static.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
[04:32] <poningru> !ohmy | laichzeit
[04:32] <ubotu> laichzeit: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:32] <flodine> im down loading april 19 cd
[04:33] <alex-weej> linuxactivist: "man watch"
[04:33] <protocol1> jrib, you mean I had it this whole time since april 15th?
[04:33] <variant> linuxactivist: what, you mean what i sugested to him about 30 mins ago and was ignored..
[04:33] <Slart> laichzeit: perhaps it isn't the right one...
[04:33] <linuxactivist> laichzeit, i agree... people are in a tizzy
[04:33] <prower> laichzeit: There wouldn't be any confusion except for that the channel ops said that the ISO was the wrong one :>
[04:33] <psst> linuxactivist: ok - thanks for your help so far - you've given me lots to try
[04:33] <prower> protocol1: Yes
[04:33] <plb> Keisari, download the image from one of the servers off ubuntu.com right now...those are final and are all released on april 19
[04:33] <surface> released!
[04:33] <dav7> this is one of the most active channels I've ever seen
[04:33] <_Neil> maxed out downloading at 4mbit/s
[04:33] <protocol1> ok cool
[04:33] <_Neil> nice server
[04:33] <linuxactivist> variant, yes.  Sorry.
[04:33] <jrib> protocol1: pretty much, they aren't going to do radical changes a couple of days before release :)
[04:33] <oyvind> Anyone got a problem with black screen and live cd ? 7.04 dislikes my thinkpad z61m very much, think there are som ata-problems, at least everything hangs after progress bar has been running for a while, screen goes black, Alt+Fn no go, Ctrl+Alt+Del works ..
[04:33] <poningru> davgo check out #ubuntu-release-party
[04:33] <AlexC_> this is insanely busy, I hope it doesn't stay like this from now on,
[04:33] <dav7> a second won't pass before a new message is in view
[04:33] <rage> Thanks AlexC_, but those are just release notes :-(
[04:33] <keisha_22f> power: so you mean this ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (april 15) is the right one to download? even the date is april 15?
[04:33] <chowmeined> use the torrents
[04:33] <AlexC_> rage: is that not what you asked for?
[04:33] <prower> jrib: Still funny how the ops refused to acknowledge that was the fact until the official release though ;>
[04:33] <linuxactivist> Variant, it was a good idea.  I am sorry that I didn't recognize it.
[04:33] <tsp> wow this hcannel has a lot of people
[04:33] <Angeluz> oyvind: Try disabling acpi.
[04:33] <rage> AlexC_: it doesnt list changes
[04:33] <prower> keisha_22f: Yes, that's right
[04:33] <chowmeined> they go fast and dont stress ubunt's servers
[04:33] <AlexC_> rage: woops, sorry I didn't read it
[04:33] <linuxactivist> variant, my apologies
[04:34] <AlexC_> rage: thats not the link I was thinking of, hold on
[04:34] <variant> linuxactivist: one thing you can do is run this comman dinside screen while true; do ps aux > test.text ; sleep 1; done
[04:34] <variant> linuxactivist: no problem :P
[04:34] <rage> AlexC_: Np
[04:34] <linuxor> Hi, what software is used to modify pdf ? thx>>
[04:34] <prower> keisha_22f: The ops said it wasn't earlier but the 19th torrents linked directly to the iso's, so it was pretty obvious
[04:34] <poningru> oyvind: hmm go disable acpi and make sure that you have quite and splash removed
[04:34] <rage> AlexC_: I cant find a good list and Google has failed me
[04:34] <Slart> linuxor: adobe software, I think
[04:34] <fuzzy_logic> hello world!
[04:34] <AlexC_> rage: can you read html =Dhttp://www-static.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu704
[04:34] <oyvind> Angeluz: tried acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, safe graphics mode, none of those help ..
[04:34] <poningru> linuxor: you can just open it up in openoffice
[04:34] <Slart> linuxor: don't think there is a pdf editor available for free
[04:34] <linuxor> Slart : on linux?
[04:34] <linuxactivist> variant, we're all just trying to help, right.  You have good input.
[04:35] <Slart> linuxor: well.. perhaps using wine.. nothing native
[04:35] <linuxactivist> fuzzy_logic, hello, Fuzzy
[04:35] <fuzzy_logic> are there people that upgraded to feisty? is it worth upgrading?
[04:35] <variant> linuxactivist: I was not.. oh nm
[04:35] <_Neil> hey guys.. ubuntu wont run on my 7800gt by default, i had to go to vesa, install nvidia-glx, then reconfigure x.. with updating to feisty keep this?
[04:35] <PirateHead> Hello fuzzy_logic!
[04:35] <_Neil> ie.. will my stuff die mid upgrade?
[04:35] <plb> Any of the servers on Ubuntu.com right now are updated with the FINAL
[04:35] <prower> plb: Yes
[04:35] <linuxor> Slart : ok thx
[04:35] <laichzeit> fuzzy_logic, yeah apparantly it has the Aero interface
[04:35] <PriceChild> _Neil, should be fine
[04:35] <poningru> linuxboy: are you trying to make a pdf or edit an existing one?
[04:35] <linuxor> poningru : thx
[04:35] <AlexC_> laichzeit: huh? what does?
[04:35] <_Neil> PriceChild: Thanks :)
[04:35] <prower> plb: The final ISO has been there since the 15th, they're just "releasing" it now
[04:35] <sarastro_w_m> hi guya
[04:35] <fuzzy_logic> laichzeit: don't really get that one.. what do you mean?
[04:35] <sarastro_w_m> guys
[04:35] <prower> (Or at least was created on that date)
[04:35] <Angeluz> How can I supply another Mirror for the ubuntu.com-site?
[04:35] <sarastro_w_m>   i have a problem
[04:35] <linuxor> poningru : editing existing and modify it
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Party and release talk in #ubuntu-release-party, support here.
[04:36] <linuxactivist> sarastro_w_m, what's up?
[04:36] <Saelynh> big up to the ubuntu team, they rock \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/  ^^
[04:36] <AlexC_> laichzeit: Ubuntu does _not_ have Aero, though you can easily install/enable Compiz which you could say is *like* Aero, though it's far morepowerful
[04:36] <plb> Prower hrm I've seen some change from 15th -> 19th throughout the day
[04:36] <variant> Angeluz: if you have terabytes of bandwidth you mean?
[04:36] <linuxactivist> sarastro_w_m, how can we help?
[04:36] <fortitUs> Beryl o_O?
[04:36] <plb> I'm grabbing the one from today
[04:36] <sarastro_w_m> well i was beta tester
[04:36] <poningru> linuxboy: yeah open it up in OOo
[04:36] <Angeluz> variant: Not me, but the University in my city.
[04:36] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: whatsup?
[04:36] <prower> plb: I'm looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ right now, and the ISO is for the 15th
[04:36] <sarastro_w_m>  my last version was the one of april the15
[04:36] <sarastro_w_m>  ok
[04:36] <variant> Angeluz: better ask them if they want to then :)
[04:36] <richdurhm> anyone have nay probs with upgrade?
[04:36] <prower> I would consider that official :>
[04:36] <yanger> is the miniiso out yet?
[04:36] <linuxor> poningru : I'll do thx
[04:36] <sarastro_w_m>  now i want to upgrade to the official one
[04:36] <sarastro_w_m> but
[04:36] <plb> prower, guess it doesn't matter either way seeing as you can upgrade anyway =)
[04:37] <orbin> fuzzy_logic, AlexC_ :  methinks he/she is pulling your legs
[04:37] <PirateHead> Man, Africans have tons of mirrors to choose from.
[04:37] <antonym55> [   ]  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso            15-Apr-2007 08:52  698M  Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)
[04:37] <Slart> poningru: OOo can edit pdf's now??
[04:37] <bushwakko> help, I can't do anything because apt-get says I need to reinstall j2sdk, because something bad happened!
[04:37] <poningru> Slart: it always could
[04:37] <PirateHead> SA, Botswana, Mozambique, Lesotho, Zimbabwe, Bosnia.
[04:37] <bushwakko> and I cant remove it or anything
[04:37] <prower> plb: Yes, that's true :> The ops just decided that they didn't want to admit it was the right one until the whole release party thing went ahead I suppose
[04:37] <felixhummel_> Can you recommend a cd ripper (edgy, gnome)?
[04:37] <fuzzy_logic> orbin: ok lol
[04:37] <sarastro_w_m> if i do sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:37] <poningru> felixhummel_: ripper? for audio? or video? or data?
[04:37] <sarastro_w_m>  i get no new version
[04:37] <AlexC_> felixhummel_: Places->CD/DVD Creater
[04:37] <antonym55> 15-Apr-2007 08:52
[04:37] <keisha_22f> prower: i have tried this one?
[04:37] <Slart> poningru: not that last time I checked... I'll have to try again
[04:37] <Angel-SL> hey, can I use desktop for a server?
[04:38] <dystopianray> felixhummel_: cdparanoia
[04:38] <linuxactivist> felixhummel_, soundjuicer and bansee work pretty well
[04:38] <poningru> Angel-SL: ofcourse
[04:38] <sarastro_w_m>  does it meens that the version of april 15th is the last one?
[04:38] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: yes, but why?
[04:38] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: its just a home server in my NAT i like to fiddle with
[04:38] <felixhummel_> poningru, audio -> ogg (automatic was best)
[04:38] <felixhummel_> thanks, ppl
[04:38] <linuxactivist> felixhummel_, if you want a gui... follow the restricted formats page on the wiki to enable MP3 ripping
[04:38] <prower> I don't think people are getting this ;> The 15th ISO is the right one
[04:38] <prower> Repeat, the 15th ISO is the right one
[04:38] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: nah I mean why use Desktop for a Server?
[04:38] <poningru> felixhummel_: just go soundjuicer
[04:39] <felixhummel_> will do
[04:39] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: theres only 1 difference right?
[04:39] <outlier> felixhummel - depends on what you want to do.   Rip one CD or a whole collection?
[04:39] <xorg62> www.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <prower> Thanks very much to Seveas and the ops for creating the confusion in the first place ;>
[04:39] <sarastro_w_m> my question is how can i be sure to  upgrade my version?
[04:39] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: just it doesn't have the X window right?
[04:39] <Angel-SL> and gnome
[04:39] <xorg62> hi sarastro_w_m
[04:39] <sarastro_w_m> cos there is no clue about this on the site
[04:39] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: Server comes with no Gnome, no X, no GUI apps and is more server orientated,
[04:39] <linuxactivist> sarastro_w_m, not sure.  does anyone know?  From what they have said in #ubuntu-release-party, feisty isn't actually released yet
[04:39] <keisha_22f> prower:  have you tried the 15th ISO?
[04:39] <Seveas> prower, I suggest you behav instead of dissing people
[04:39] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: if you have been updating through updatemanager then you are good
[04:39] <sarastro_w_m> ok i see
[04:39] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: which you don't need for a server, so you may as well just install Server
[04:39] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: does it have a smaller size?
[04:39] <prower> Seveas: Ahh, now you finally answer
[04:39] <Tatey> is there a way to tell dpkg to ignore a package?
[04:39] <hans> linuxactivist: It is. check the topic
[04:40] <sarastro_w_m>  but what is the one in the bittorent link?
[04:40] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: smaller install size, yes afaik
[04:40] <zbrown> poningru: fixed it, needed to do a dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets to get the functionality i wanted
[04:40] <sarastro_w_m> cos the date is april 19th
[04:40] <poningru> ah gotcha
[04:40] <protocol1> so if I were to download the it...I would get the desktop one not the alternate?
[04:40] <psst> linuxactivist: FYI - this seems to be relevant - my ubuntu installation keeps shutting down - how can I debug this?
[04:40] <Seveas> prower, guess what, today is a busy day. I don't have time to immediately deal with all pm's
[04:40] <prower> Seveas: You did notice I sent one though, interesting
[04:40] <linuxactivist> hans, sorry... been in a while and it wasn't when I came in
[04:40] <_Neil> does running distribution update disable swap?
[04:40] <_Neil> mines suddenly gone
[04:40] <_Neil> lol
[04:40] <IdleOne> prower, why dont you just get over it download the new iso and install
[04:41] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: which mirror do you recommend for Singapore (the one listed on the mainpage currently)
[04:41] <linuxactivist> psst: new installation?
[04:41] <poningru> !upgrade | neil__
[04:41] <ubotu> neil__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:41] <poningru> err
[04:41] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: closest one do you
[04:41] <Jump86> great i just did a dist upgrade and now my pc wont start
[04:41] <poningru> !upgrade | _Neil
[04:41] <PovAddict> is there a metalink (www.metalinker.org) for the final Feisty Fawn .iso?
[04:41] <ubotu> _Neil: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:41] <sarastro_w_m> any idea poningru?
[04:41] <psst> linuxactivist: not very - upgraded to edgy about a week ago
[04:41] <jrib> Jump86: what happens?
[04:41] <prower> IdleOne: Because I run Debian :> I'm just calling Seveas on a lie, seeing as how his threats mean nothing
[04:41] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: hmm sorry didnt catch that?
[04:41] <prower> Enjoy your release everyone
[04:41] <AlexC_> s/do/to
[04:41] <Angel-SL> AlexC_: not always fast.. i got one in SG that was slower than one in China
[04:41] <_Neil> no i mean its not updated yet
[04:41] <_Neil> dist update is running now
[04:41] <protocol1> I want the desktop one right?
[04:41] <AlexC_> Angel-SL: I can't say ... just try any
[04:41] <Jump86> jrib; black screen after grub, never loads
[04:41] <AlexC_> if it's slow, don't use it - simple as
[04:41] <poningru> _Neil: dont use dist-upgrade, expect many things to break
[04:41] <Seveas> weak, the coward ran
[04:42] <_Neil> I mean I ran update manager
[04:42] <variant> indeed
[04:42] <sarastro_w_m> ok if u go on the website http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[04:42] <keisha_22f> linuxactivist : so you mean the april 15 ISO is not the right one? :(
[04:42] <poningru> _Neil: ah
[04:42] <Jump86> im working on a clean install now
[04:42] <Hairulfr> I want to seed, are there any official torrents?
[04:42] <_Neil> poningru: It started 'Distribution Upgrade' the gui
[04:42] <sarastro_w_m>  u have a  torent version that is of 2day
[04:42] <poningru> _Neil: you should be good
[04:42] <xorg62> martin@martin:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:42] <xorg62> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[04:42] <xorg62> No new release found
[04:42] <animimotus> Adri2000: +1 :p
[04:42] <Noodlesgc> i'm switching from windowsxp to ubuntu today and i need to know which copy i should download
[04:42] <sarastro_w_m> date april 19th
[04:42] <PovAddict> Hairulfr: yes there are, hold on I'll get you link
[04:42] <linuxactivist> keisha_22f, apparently I was misinformed earlier.. the release party channel says those are the correct ones
[04:42] <_Neil> poningru: Its running, but appears to have unmounted my swap
[04:43] <jrib> Jump86: tried an older kernel?  Get anything interesting if you boot into recovery mode?
[04:43] <linuxactivist> psst: before the 15th?
[04:43] <Hairulfr> PovAddict: Thanks :)
[04:43] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: well yeah its just for correct release date purposes
[04:43] <psst> linuxactivist: yes - before the 15th
[04:43] <linuxactivist> psst: if so, those discs weren't final (my new understanding).  It could be related
[04:43] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: its the same as the 15th
[04:43] <PovAddict> Hairulfr: http://ubuntu.mirrors.hamishlobb.com/feisty/ scroll down and you'll see .torrent's
[04:43] <psst> linuxactivist: edgy?!?
[04:43] <sarastro_w_m> but the version aint good  ok!
[04:43] <sarastro_w_m>  great!
[04:43] <sarastro_w_m> :(
[04:43] <richdurhm> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[04:43] <linuxactivist> psst, sorry... no
[04:44] <_Neil> ihave a problem - gparted shows /dev/sda6 as unreadable filesystem
[04:44] <jrib> Noodlesgc: get the desktop cd for i386
[04:44] <psst> linuxactivist: phew
[04:44] <sarastro_w_m> thx a lot poningru
[04:44] <linuxactivist> I have edgy on here... getty confused
[04:44] <_Neil> no wonder I have no swap mounted
[04:44] <Hairulfr> PovAddict: Thanks a lot
[04:44] <poningru> sarastro_w_m: yep
[04:44] <_Neil> can anyone help?
[04:44] <linuxactivist> s/getty/getting/
[04:44] <exs> Does the DVD version have more drivers?.. or is it just more software?
[04:44] <poningru> _Neil: thats the swap right?
[04:44] <variant> _Neil: what do you think it's supposed to be?
[04:44] <LjL> exs: more software
[04:44] <Noodlesgc> k, thanks jrib
[04:44] <_Neil> Yes it is the swap
[04:44] <_Neil> but free shows my swap as 0mb
[04:44] <sarastro_w_m> xorg62:  did u get it?
[04:44] <variant> _Neil: in that case it's not a problem
[04:44] <keisha_22f> can somebody confirm that the april 15 ISO is the right one. i dont want to download lots of update after i install :(
[04:44] <poningru> _Neil: just go sudo mkswap /dev/sda6
[04:44] <jrib> Noodlesgc: if you have trouble getting the desktop cd to load the desktop, then you can give the alternate cd a try
[04:44] <linuxactivist> psst: I'm honestly not sure what's going on with your system.  Does it shut down if those apps aren't running
[04:44] <poningru> keisha_22f: its the same
[04:45] <variant> _Neil: run mkswap /dev/sda6 && swapon /dev/sda6 (ONLY if you are sure it is supposed to be swap
[04:45] <_Neil> poningru: But why has it unmounted? It's defined as swap in /etc/fstab already
[04:45] <poningru> _Neil: no clue
[04:45] <protocol1> If I am going to be making a disk...I want the desktop one correct? not the alternate
[04:45] <Doug52392> Hi, should I upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04?
[04:45] <variant> _Neil: you don't mount swap
[04:45] <psst> linuxactivist: well - It didn't shut down yesterday *with* those apps running
[04:45] <variant> Doug52392: if you want
[04:45] <calvarez> we need more DVD torrent seeders! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[04:45] <poningru> _Neil: oh yeah forgot to swapon after you do mkswap
[04:45] <Doug52392> is it good?
[04:45] <poningru> what variant said
[04:45] <_Neil> variant: I mean my swap size is displayede as 0, so something is borked
[04:45] <keisha_22f> poningru: what do you mean?
[04:45] <jrib> protocol1: you can make a disk of each one.  The alternate is a text-based install, the desktop cd is a live cd and install cd in one
[04:45] <poningru> Doug52392: yes go ahead and upgrade
[04:45] <Bokeh> i can't seed unfortunately,i'm putting up a http mirror though
[04:45] <Doug52392> ok
[04:45] <variant> _Neil: yeah, untill lyou do swapon it will not pick it up
[04:45] <variant> _Neil: also, mkswap first of course
[04:45] <_Neil> ok
[04:45] <protocol1> jrib, thx
[04:45] <_Neil> thx
[04:46] <linuxactivist> Have you looked around your system to see if you have any core files dumped.  That would mean a bigger problem
[04:46] <exs> Does anyone know if it's wise (or even safe) to upgrade my 6.10 edgy ?... does anyone think it will be totally fine?... I have taken a long time to setup ubuntu the way I want.. I don't want to ruin it now.
[04:46] <poningru> keisha_22f: april 15th iso is the same as the final release
[04:46] <disasm> are the release notes still a work in progress? They don't state anything about the release except for problems you may come across in the upgrade
[04:46] <variant> exs: if it works fine then don't bother.. edgy is still supported
[04:46] <aimtrainer> hey I'm havin some trouble getting a newsgroup to work with thunderbird. Can anyone help me please? I can view it, but I cant write stuff. I played a round a bit with the smtp server .. but Im not quite sure what to do
[04:46] <variant> exs: unless there is somehting you really need from feisty
[04:46] <fami> exs: 6.06 is better
[04:46] <richdurhm> exs,  do u really need 7.04
[04:46] <_Neil> variant and poningru - ta, fixed it
[04:46] <richdurhm> ?
[04:46] <exs> variant:  ok thanks
[04:46] <vince419> /
[04:46] <_Neil> weird it unswapped itself
[04:46] <exs> Tami 6.06 is better!?
[04:47] <exs> richdurhm:  not really i guess
[04:47] <poningru> disasm: for that you need release walk through
[04:47] <Suurorca> bah... I see no reason to use older stable :p
[04:47] <poningru> disasm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC
[04:47] <fabiim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16405/   Can someone take a look at that?
[04:47] <josef59> part
[04:47] <ksyms> Last release my system identified automatically. This time, the new distro is not appearing in update manager, and I've done what http://www-static.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading says me to. Any idea?
[04:47] <poningru> or not
[04:47] <PovAddict> if you want to get the download REALLY fast, get "aria" or "aria2" download manager and use these http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[04:48] <tarzeau> it's out! it's out! but where's the powerpc images?
[04:48] <PovAddict> you'll automatically download from a lot of mirrors, and maybe also torrent, at the same time :]
[04:48] <RichEd> tarzeau: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ports/
[04:48] <variant> fabiim: run this: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>-11.37_i386.deb
[04:48] <variant> fabiim: then run the update again
[04:48] <ikaruga> hi all.... greatk work!
[04:48] <loudmouthman> and even the planet is feeling the strain.
[04:49] <loudmouthman> oops sorry wrong window
[04:49] <ikaruga> just wanted to know if in Fiesty, RoseGarden has been fixed. It was "broken" in Edgy...
[04:49] <Ragzouken> My upgrade to 7.04 'Fetching file 66 of 68', should I leave it, give up or do something?
[04:49] <Sarge> 100% d/l Fiesty FTW
[04:49] <PovAddict> loudmouthman: what you said applies to the HTTP mirrors hosting Feisty isos anyway
[04:49] <PovAddict> Sarge: seed the torrent! \o/
[04:49] <variant> Ragzouken: leave it and make a cup of tea
[04:49] <loudmouthman> PoVaddict what did I say ?
[04:50] <bef> Sarge: downloaded the 15/4 daily iso, no updates meaning no changes, ftw.
 and even the planet is feeling the strain.
[04:50] <dungodung> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download doesn't have 7.04 listed
[04:50] <_Neil> doh my download speed just halved :D
[04:50] <xq> Hmm, still getting a "your system is up to date" by Update Manager. Weird.
[04:50] <bef> dungodung: just do ubuntu.com >_>
[04:50] <variant> xq: were you running feisty beta?
[04:50] <dungodung> me too
[04:50] <omahn> xq: same here.
[04:50] <xq> aye, variant
[04:50] <bef> xq: same for me with 15/4 daily iso.
[04:50] <xq> The most current beta
[04:50] <variant> xq: tehn you are already using the final release
[04:51] <xq> oh
[04:51] <Bokeh> if you updated today you should be running final already
[04:51] <shmeelAway> beta = final release?
[04:51] <xq> They used RC from 15th?
[04:51] <dungodung> I'm running a 6.10 and still don't get the update notice
[04:51] <Belutz> have a happy feisty day everyone!
[04:51] <synthaxx> ffs, i go away for an hour and you guys release without me :/ does anyone have a torrent i can seed?
[04:51] <PovAddict> shmeelAway: nothing else needed changing since last beta maybe :)
[04:51] <variant> xq: if you kept the system up to date then you would have got hte last updates around the 15th
[04:51] <euxneks> quick question
[04:51] <Tomcat_> shmeelAway: Beta + Updates = Final
[04:51] <ZombiekE_> Belutz, and a happy summer day for those in Iceland :)
[04:51] <PovAddict> synthaxx: most HTTP mirrors have the .torrents
[04:51] <xq> ah, ok
[04:51] <xq> No problem
[04:51] <xq> Works great for me :0
[04:51] <shmeelAway> i didn't get any updates today tho tomcat
[04:51] <Whisperkiller> ok i hear the new version is out
[04:51] <synthaxx> PovAddict > you're a doll tnx.
[04:51] <variant> xq: they were the "testing" updates which are now decided to be a suitable final release
[04:51] <euxneks> can I upgrade from i386 to x64?
[04:51] <askar> When is it likely there will be a lot of updates?
[04:51] <Tomcat_> shmeelAway: Repos have been frozen yesterday, so no updates. :)
[04:52] <fortitUs> Where did the singapore sever go daammmmmmmmit T_T
[04:52] <shmeelAway> tomcat, then when will that be changed so can update?
[04:52] <umop> QQ
[04:52] <Whisperkiller> should i go with server or desktop?
[04:52] <variant> askar: there are only updates when somehitn needs to be updated with stable releases.. maybe 2 or 3 packages a week
[04:52] <tbender_> everybody complaining about not beeing able to upgrade with your update manager: go to softwaresources and change the mirror from local(==your countryside) to main
[04:52] <Tomcat_> shmeelAway: If you don't get any updates, you *are* final.
[04:52] <Whisperkiller> besides the obvious what are the differences?
[04:52] <PirateHead> Whisperkiller: if you want a graphical interface, go with desktop.
[04:52] <variant> Whisperkiller: are you planing to host a server or do you want to use it as a desktop?
[04:52] <dalton1976> My mouse stop to click on rdesktop. is there a permanent solution for that?
[04:52] <shmeelAway> tomcat_, alright thx
[04:52] <Tomcat_> tbender_: Bad idea. ;)
[04:52] <PovAddict> if you want to get the download REALLY fast, get "aria" or "aria2" download manager, or some other supporting metalinks,  and use these http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[04:52] <PovAddict> you'll automatically download from a lot of mirrors, and maybe also torrent, at the same time :]
[04:52] <treylsu> is update manager updating yet to 7.04
[04:53] <euxneks> treylsu: yes
[04:53] <askar> variant: but it isnt a stable release really? there is a lot of bugs.. they have only removed the critical ones?
[04:53] <PovAddict> tbender_: very bad idea, main will explode if everyone does that
[04:53] <Whisperkiller> i might use it as a server at some point
[04:53] <gubluntu> can someone teach me /step me through using parted on the command line to create a raid mirror for my two 500gb sata drives?
[04:53] <treylsu> im running 7.04 beta and im not getting anyupdates
[04:53] <ikaruga> sorry again, if anyone answered my query--- does rosegarden work in fiesty?
[04:53] <variant> askar: from my point of view there are no visible bugs (that i have seen) but of course, all software contains bugs..
[04:53] <Bokeh> treylsu: did you update this week?
[04:53] <PovAddict> treylsu: you're probably already using the latest version :)
[04:53] <Bokeh> if so, you most likely have the final already
[04:53] <variant> askar: it is the final, stable release
[04:53] <PirateHead> Can I use the downloaded ISO file to upgrade to Feisty?
[04:54] <kane77> oh, and I cant even install enemy territory :( it says something like: ./setup.sh: 278: /home/kane/.setup8661: not found. anyone knows why? (I'm running 64-bit feisty)
[04:54] <variant> PirateHead: yes
[04:54] <xevox> now can i download some iso called ubuntu 7.04 o.0? or i need kill ppl  0.0
[04:54] <fnf> treylsu: the last few days are used for stabilizing, that's normal.
[04:54] <PirateHead> That is, from Edgy to Feisty? Can I use the ISO as a repo?
[04:54] <LjL> PirateHead: not the desktop ISO
[04:54] <omaaaar> PirateHead: yes
[04:54] <LjL> PirateHead: the alternate - yes
[04:54] <variant> kane77: because  /home/kane/.setup8661 does not exist
[04:54] <PirateHead> LJL: darnit, I downloaded the desktop ISO. =D
[04:54] <askar> variant: ok.. good for you.. I have like at least 5 different bugs.. maybe its best to go back to edgy cause this is bad for a final release.. I mean im not even able to shutdown my computer :(
[04:54] <Hairulfr> I've been running the beta for a while now, do I need to upgrade anything, or has the last weeks of updates made "me" final?
[04:54] <mrigns> !loco
[04:54] <ZombiekE_> askar, you were beta testing, right?
[04:54] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[04:54] <kane77> variant, :/ the number varies each time I run installer
[04:55] <euxneks> anyone? alternate install from i386 to amd64?
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Hairulfr: today's updates will be all
[04:55] <askar> ZombiekE_:  yeaah
[04:55] <variant> askar: indeed, that sounds bad. file some bug reports or update existing ones before you do
[04:55] <euxneks> possible?
[04:55] <treylsu> Im running beta and i have not had updates for a few days
[04:55] <fnf> Hairulfr: nope
[04:55] <ZombiekE_> In my case I also ended up with some complicated things to fix :)
[04:55] <fnf> treylsu: the last few days are used for stabilizing, that's normal.
[04:55] <variant> kane77: is enemy territory supported in 64bit?
[04:55] <Angeluz> treylsu: Thats normal. There wasn't much new.
[04:55] <Noodlesgc> is there an aria for windows?
[04:55] <variant> kane77: i thought it was a 32bit app
[04:55] <Bokeh> askar: from what release did you upgrade mate?
[04:55] <dalton1976> My mouse stop to click on rdesktop. is 6.10 correct it?
[04:55] <ZombiekE_> but I have hope that a fresh install when it comes out officially will help :)
[04:55] <askar> variant: I have filed som bugs and the are rated as medium..
[04:55] <variant> kane77: if so then you will have to run it in a 32bit chroot
[04:55] <askar> Bokeh: from edgy
[04:55] <PovAddict> Noodlesgc: doubt it; but there are other download managers with metalink support
[04:55] <kane77> variant, I talked with people that runs it without problems
[04:55] <Bokeh> i'd recommend doing a clean install
[04:56] <tuskernini> HOW can i install text support for albanian letters in firefox?
[04:56] <Bokeh> upgrades between releases tend to be tricky sometimes.
[04:56] <variant> kane77: don't know then, sorry
[04:56] <PovAddict> Noodlesgc: I saw an "aria2" (commandline) for Windows, but tried it and it sucked
[04:56] <Hairulfr> fnf/ tonyyarusso: So what do I need to do? No updates popped up in update manager yet
[04:56] <kane77> variant, np
[04:56] <Bokeh> how did you upgrade? apt-get, aptitute or update-manager?
[04:56] <ksyms> I am using 6.04. What sources I need to have to upgrade smoothly, since my update manager haven't tell me 7.04 is available.
[04:56] <calvarez> we need more DVD torrent seeders! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[04:56] <fnf> Hairulfr: because there's no updates.
[04:56] <treylsu> I have been using the beta for a few months with no problems
[04:56] <umop> Mother fucker I didnt have enough disk space!
[04:56] <ZombiekE_> so today I will just download the new iso, burn it, delete my old instalation and install again :)
[04:56] <krabador> hey people, someone of you have an ati 9600 ?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Hairulfr: possibly nothing
[04:56] <PovAddict> Noodlesgc: bad port, still not very polished, doesn't work fine with files > 2GB
[04:56] <LjL> !language | umop
[04:56] <ubotu> umop: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:56] <kitche> ksyms: update to 6.10 then to 7.04
[04:56] <euxneks> wow
[04:56] <Huffalump> How can I lock a package version  via terminal?  For me, Synaptic is broken and does not allow me to lock package versions.
[04:56] <tezem> How does this update thing work exactly? When I look on archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool it seems that it is still the edgy stuff, so how does the update manager realize the feisty update?
[04:56] <f000bar> why does the download page not list 7.04?
[04:56] <Zorlin> KSyms: Its 6.06, not 6.04
[04:56] <euxneks> I'm doing more upload than download on a torrent
[04:57] <gils> where are are the 7.04 dvd iso links...
[04:57] <PovAddict> f000bar: go to www.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <fabiim> variant, tks
[04:57] <PovAddict> gils: go to www.ubuntu.com and choose a mirror
[04:57] <askar> :(
[04:57] <ksyms> sorry, I am using 6.06!
[04:57] <jrib> !pinning > Huffalump    (Huffalump, see the private message from ubotu)
[04:57] <treylsu> Thats the same with me i was uploading and 200KB/s and downloading at like 15KB/s
[04:57] <ksyms> I mean. I am using 6.10!
[04:57] <kitche> tezem: gksu update-manager -c should tell you that there is a new release
[04:57] <ksyms> I am using the latest before 7.04.
[04:57] <Hairulfr> tonyyarusso: So I should just shrug and think: Yej, I have the final, or do I need to do a clean install... Not bothered with that
[04:57] <docMuerto> gils https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000281.html
[04:57] <gils> PovAddict: there are no DVD isos there
[04:58] <Whisperkiller> whats the minimum specs for the new version?
[04:58] <Rkyraccoon55> connect #ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <f000bar> is there a simple way to grab and start seeding all torrents available for 7.04?
[04:58] <ksyms> Zorlin: I am using 6.10, any idea?
[04:58] <Hairulfr> /#ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <Rkyraccoon55> join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <PovAddict> gils: oh sorry... right, no DVD
[04:58] <PovAddict> :\
[04:58] <ksyms> kitche: I am using 6.10.
[04:58] <Huffalump> Thanks, jrib.  A little confusing at first glance, but that appears to be the answer so I'll read through it again.  Much appreciated!
[04:59] <jman_> help I've just upgraded to feisty and hae lost my sound
[04:59] <rocksouled> lads, any news on upgrading from 6.10 to Ubuntu Studio?
[04:59] <josef59> join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:59] <kitche> ksyms: gksu update-manager -c should tell you that there is a new release
[04:59] <brunoUT> when i try updating to 7.04 through update manager i get an error when downloading files....is that problem on my end?
[04:59] <tezem> kitche, I guess that the detection of the update heavily depends on the mirror I am using in /etc/sources.list
[04:59] <krabador> someone with ati9600 and compiz/beryl?
[04:59] <ksyms> kitche: it's not. that's the problem. any idea?
[05:00] <docMuerto> Help to Shared, P2P ed2k://|file|ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso|731797504|E239215147FA03E5DB3D6C816291BFCA|h=2ZG5NL5GESHFR5NYUXF2AUZDDNICP4CR|/  (aMule or eMule)
[05:00] <brunoUT> when i try updating to 7.04 through update manager i get an error when downloading files....is that problem on my end?
[05:00] <jman_> can you someone  please help I;ve upgraded to feisty and lost my sound
[05:00] <kishan> hi did any oe upgraded from edgy to ubuntu
[05:00] <Slart> poningru: I tried opening a pdf with open office.. didn't work
[05:01] <Slart> poningru: sure you didn't mean save as pdf?
[05:01] <firecrotch> brunoUT: Most likely it's because the server is getting pummeled
[05:01] <kishan> edgy to feisty
[05:01] <brunoUT> yeah i thought so man
[05:01] <brunoUT> thanks ill just try later
[05:01] <elkbuntu> brunoUT, you could try find a local server to
[05:01] <calvarez> Please help seed!! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/
[05:01] <PovAddict> calvarez: I'm giving my 10KB/s to the pool!
[05:02] <Bokeh> i'm putting up a http mirror any second now, 100Mbit so it should give a reasonable donwload speed as long as it doesn't get hammered
[05:02] <kishan> i have a query previously i upgraded from drapper to edgy it was running fine till now now can i upgrade to feisty or is it advisable to fresh install
[05:02] <brunoUT> where could i do that at?
[05:02] <PovAddict> also downloading it on another remote machine which can give 40KB/s more
[05:02] <treylsu> Im maxing my school lan out give 200KB/S
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Please keep release downloading talk in #ubuntu-release-party ; this channel is for support questions only.
[05:02] <rocksouled> where would I find documentation on upgrading to 7.04 without loosing my current files and having to re-install?
[05:02] <calvarez> PovAddict, thanks!
[05:02] <magnetron> jman_ : check sound settings in system menu
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | rocksouled
[05:02] <ubotu> rocksouled: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:02] <calvarez> i386 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:02] <ksyms> I am using 6.10, it says my system is up to date, but doesn't show the option to upgrade to 7.04. Any idea?
[05:02] <Bokeh> !upgrade | rocksouled
[05:02] <Bokeh> bah tony
[05:02] <calvarez> AMD64 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[05:03] <PovAddict> tonyyarusso: #ubuntu-release-party is full of people showing YAY ITS RELEASED kind of crap
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> PovAddict: Yeah, but there's useful links too.
[05:03] <richdurhm> im d/l ing at 800 kb took me 10 min to d/l  here :  http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[05:03] <Runithad> is there a command out there to move from the beta to the new release?
[05:04] <Bokeh> richdurhm: don't hammer the main release servers at this time
[05:04] <richdurhm> oh sorry
[05:04] <calvarez> i386 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:04] <calvarez> AMD64 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[05:04] <Bokeh> get secondary mirrors if possible, and torrents are even better :)
[05:04] <SuperQ> woo!
[05:04] <richdurhm> boken sorry
[05:04] <calvarez> please help seed!
[05:04] <Bokeh> nps mate
[05:04] <LjL> Runithad: not really, just  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . you won't see many changes
[05:04] <Tomcat_> calvarez: I wish I could get anything to seed ;P
[05:04] <Slart> what's on the dvd?
[05:04] <PovAddict> calvarez: is there a metalink for the DVDs?
[05:04] <SuperQ> now if only I could get the torrent file
[05:04] <LjL> Runithad: or *any* changes, if you updated regularly..
[05:04] <Slart> that isn't on the cd
[05:05] <Tomcat_> Slart: main + universe afaik
[05:05] <calvarez> PovAddict, metalink?
[05:05] <disasm> poningru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC doesn't exist, I'm just looking for a list of all changes (I'm already using feisty, just was curious as to major under the hood changes, like progress with upstart that has been done and the like)
[05:05] <PovAddict> calvarez: www.metalinker.org
[05:05] <Slart> Tomcat_: ah.. that might be useful
[05:05] <hdxx> helo, does someone have feisty and its happy with it?:D
[05:05] <rocksouled> thanks uboto
[05:05] <LjL> hdxx: nobody
[05:05] <rocksouled> exit
[05:05] <Bokeh> i've had feisty for months
[05:05] <disasm> hdxx: been running feisty for a month now, no problems
[05:05] <jlintz> hdxx: whats feisty?
[05:05] <Bokeh> and definetely happy with it :)
[05:05] <Runithad> LjL: thanks no changes
[05:05] <LjL> disaasm: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/
[05:05] <krabador> someone with ati9600 and compiz/beryl?
[05:05] <disasm> jlintz: latest releast that came out today
[05:05] <gemidjy> krabador: I am on my lappie
[05:05] <jlintz> im joking ;)
[05:05] <hdxx> jleedev,  new version ubuntu
[05:06] <disasm> jlintz: ah, wasn't sure ;-)
[05:06] <jlintz> hehe
[05:06] <JebJoya> here's hoping that feisty fixes my wireless card
[05:06] <Hairulfr> I've uploadede 1.4 gb ubuntu feisty so far. Yej
[05:06] <gemidjy> krabador: I mean, I have Beryl Streep on my laptop but I am not working on it right now
[05:06] <JebJoya> 7h remaining...
[05:06] <Kaloz> cdimage is overloaded...
[05:06] <Kaloz> Hairulfr: got a torrent link?
[05:06] <Runithad> Boy this Beryl extension is great in gnome
[05:06] <Draconicus> So... is it safe to do a massive update?
[05:06] <Draconicus> I'm afraid.
[05:06] <jcaceres> hello guys i have  troubles trying to use ssh without password, i have copied id_rsa.pub to the .ssh/ directory in the server and added the lline to autorizhed.keys
[05:06] <Runithad> Draconicus, my X didn't die :-)
[05:07] <Draconicus> Runithad: I'm more concerned about Beryl.
[05:07] <Hairulfr> Kaloz: http://ubuntu.mirrors.hamishlobb.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:07] <jcaceres> but i the servser still asking for password
[05:07] <ksyms> I am using 6.10, it says my system is up to date, but doesn't show the option to upgrade to 7.04. Any idea?
[05:07] <LjL> Draconicus: if you want to wait until things (including things in this channel) have settled down a bit, it sure won't hurt
[05:07] <Runithad> jman_ i lost my sound to
[05:07] <jcaceres> i have even make a ling of autorizhed.keys to autorizhed.keys2
[05:07] <Kaloz> Hairulfr: thanks.. got the others as well? :)
[05:07] <JebJoya> beryl is fun - my gf is using it on her old pc with an intel gfx chipset, and it works surprisingly well
[05:07] <jcaceres> any idea?
[05:07] <Draconicus> LjL: Okay... but I still need support for my vanishing spca5xx driver. D:
[05:07] <LjL> ksyms: upgrade instructions right at http://www.ubuntu.com, first link
[05:07] <JebJoya> (at least a lot better than vista would :) )
[05:07] <Runithad> jman_ to fix my sound I had to reboot and play with GNOME alsa mixer
[05:07] <firecrotch> jcaceres: The file permissions on authorized.keys need to be set properly
[05:08] <ksyms> LjL: I've read all documents. Now help, that's why I am here.
[05:08] <PhilK> jcaceres: is your client sending the right key?
[05:08] <buziaczek> hej
[05:08] <jcaceres> yes i asume that it's doing it
[05:08] <jcaceres> PhilK,  yes i asume that it's doing it
[05:08] <delire> jcaceres: try 'ssh-agent bash' and then 'ssh-add' and then try to ssh.
[05:08] <jcaceres> firecrotch, whitch permision are needed?
[05:09] <jash> How to upgrade to feisty official from the beta? Adept_updater states that my system is up to date.
[05:09] <jcaceres> delire,  in the server or in the client?
[05:09] <ikkebr> mmm, i burnt ubuntu 7.04 to a cd and ran it in my windows machine
[05:09] <bokey> oh good lord!
[05:09] <jrib> jash: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:09] <firecrotch> jcaceres: If I recall correctly, 644
[05:09] <Huffalump> Here goes nothin' :)
[05:09] <Dorkstyle> Is anyone having an issue getting "update-manager-core" for Edgy Server?
[05:09] <delire> jcaceres: try in a terminal on the client machine
[05:09] <LjL> jash: that's because it is. if you updated regularly, then you have Feisty final.
[05:09] <bokey> 1500+ people here
[05:09] <ikkebr> after that I rebooted and for some reason windows won't boot anymore
[05:09] <ikkebr> any chance 7.04 killed my windows?
[05:09] <ravi_> having trouble connecting to anything but PORT 3389, changed it to 60 in regedit, and can't connect now with rdesktop command or tsclient.
[05:10] <mgedmin> the very first link on http://www.ubuntu.com/ points to a nonexistent page (http:/www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading)
[05:10] <ravi_> please help
[05:10] <gils> can someone point to an actual DVD iso that hast todays release....or are they all from the 15th
[05:10] <jlintz> ikkebr: what part wont boot, will it not find the partition its on, or is windows spewing errors?
[05:10] <firecrotch> ikkebr: that's always a possibility.
[05:10] <bokey> oh good lord!
[05:10] <bokey> 1500+ people here
[05:10] <Hairulfr> Kaloz: http://ubuntu.mirrors.hamishlobb.com/feisty/ There's a  list in the bottom of the page
[05:10] <ikkebr> jlintz it won't even enter windows boot screen
[05:10] <Xore|work> apt-get install bandwagon
[05:10] <firecrotch> bokey: I expected at least 2000 :P
[05:11] <jlintz> ikkebr: errors?
[05:11] <Draconicus> spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx spca5xx is missing missing missing missing missing missing missing missing missing
[05:11] <capiira> 1549 to be exactly
[05:11] <Draconicus> D:
[05:11] <bokey> firecrotch: yey! Ubuntu is famous!!!! :)
[05:11] <PhilK> ravi_: did you reboot?  the change doesn't take effect until you restart the remote desktop service
[05:11] <ikkebr> jlintz no errors, black screen with a _
[05:11] <ikkebr> *black screen
[05:11] <ravi_> PhilK: Positive, rebooted
[05:11] <capiira> i hope it kicks vista in the ass
[05:11] <asdfjkloe> which file system should i use?
[05:11] <capiira> heh
[05:11] <LjL> !offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:11] <calvarez> i386 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:11] <ravi_> I put in rdesktop -5 -a 24 -f -g 1024x768 <IP_ADDRESS>:60 and that just doesn't go anywhere after saying Autoselected keymap
[05:11] <LjL> asdfjkloe: ext3
[05:12] <delire> asdfjkloe: ext3 is good
[05:12] <slackern_> To wrap it up i will say ext3 also
[05:12] <ravi_> PhilK: I also tried <IP_ADDRESS>:60 on the tsclient
[05:12] <Dorkstyle> Has anyone successfuly installed the "update-manager-core" on Edgy Server to Update to Feisty?
[05:12] <jrib> jcaceres: when I use keys, I need to have a file called ~/.ssh/authorized_keys that has the contents of my id_rsa.pub.  I noticed that your referred to the file with a '.' instead of a '_', I am not sure if that works
[05:12] <CapaH> How can I see whether or not I am using Ubuntu 64 bit or 32 bit ?
[05:12] <aa^way> hey
[05:12] <delire> CapaH: uname -a
[05:12] <aa^way> people are telling me that i should fix my charset, like they see wrong chars in window
[05:12] <jcaceres> jrib,
[05:13] <jcaceres> thanks
[05:13] <aa^way> im from estonia and i use "p" can you see them?
[05:13] <jcaceres> i 'll try it now
[05:13] <delire> aa^way: yes, they are fine
[05:13] <calvarez> aa^way, yes
[05:13] <calvarez> i386 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:13] <delire> aa^way: for me at least
[05:13] <calvarez> please get the DVD torrent and help seed
[05:13] <jrib> CapaH: uname -a   will list x86_64 in the second last field if you are using amd64
[05:13] <ravi_> philk: is there a way to install mstsc (windows terminal server client) in ubuntu with WINE?
[05:13] <aa^way> hm some ppl are telling me that they dont see and some are, why so?
[05:13] <capiira> hmm does win32codecs exist for feisty?
[05:13] <delire> aa^way: i use a standard british english charset
[05:13] <LjL> aa^way: the former people are probably using a different encoding than UTF-8
[05:13] <slackern_> I saw p aa^way
[05:14] <jrib> capiira: they are available through medibuntu repos
[05:14] <gubluntu> ravi_: is there a reason you do not want to use a linux based rdp program?
[05:14] <PhilK> ravi_: are you crossing a firewall?  can you use a higher port? (I think I remember something about low ports being disallowed)
[05:14] <aa^way> hm but where you change charset?
[05:14] <capiira> ahh thanks
[05:14] <kitche> calvarez: that link does not work
[05:14] <Hoxxin> aa^way:  maybe u should u se this one? ISO-8859-15 (Western Europe)
[05:14] <ravi_> gubluntu: see my above comments, changed port in Windows to 60 and none of the linux programs work now
[05:14] <capiira> this one http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ ?
[05:14] <LjL> aa^way: i don't know, and i don't think you should
[05:14] <ravi_> Philk: nope, within the network
[05:14] <delire> aa^way: it's not your problem, it's theirs isn't it?
[05:14] <calvarez> kitche, it works for me
[05:14] <fwtest> hello, which pacakge can provide ftps both implicit and explicit?
[05:14] <Alan> how good is ubuntu at automatically configuring for dual montiors?
[05:14] <Alan> *monitors?
[05:14] <Daverocks> ravi_: rdesktop works great
[05:14] <calvarez> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:14] <kitche> calvarez: I just treid I get webpage can not be found
[05:14] <LjL> Alan: it doesn't
[05:15] <gubluntu> ravi_: just swa.. sry.. i would also recommend going higher
[05:15] <LjL> !dualhead > Alan    (Alan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <calvarez> try again: i386 DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:15] <ravi_> Daverocks: with changed ports too?
[05:15] <PhilK> ravi_: does netstat -a show anything listening on 60?
[05:15] <aa^way> delire im not sure.. they dont have problems with otehrs and they didnt have problem with me while i was window user
[05:15] <calvarez> I just tried
[05:15] <delire> Alan: not very at this stage. it's a priority for the next rlease AFAIK.
[05:15] <Alan> thanks LjL
[05:15] <Alan> delire, sounds good :)
[05:15] <calvarez> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[05:15] <Daverocks> ravi_: yes, you can specify a port to rdesktop
[05:15] <psusi> has only the dvd image been released or something?  where's the cd image?
[05:15] <jcaceres> jrib,
[05:15] <PhilK> ravi_: try port 3390 and up
[05:15] <Hoxxin> aa^way:  are there the o a  with the dots on top in estonian? :P
[05:15] <jrib> psusi: www.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <PovAddict> psusi: for the CD, go to ubuntu.com and choose a mirror
[05:15] <LjL> aa^way: that is because Windows doesn't use UTF-8 by default. Ubuntu does. other OS's do. whatever charset you choose, you won't make everyone happy.
[05:15] <PovAddict> psusi: there's torrents there too
[05:15] <jcaceres> thankyou so much for notice that
[05:15] <Siman> hey, can anyone tell me why my wireless works in ubuntu but not xubuntu?
[05:15] <dalton1976> Somebody can help me with the following problem?:  My mouse stop to click on rdesktop very often.
[05:15] <Runithad> I dont have a "GNOME CONTROL CENTER" under system? wasnt that supposed to come in feisty?
[05:15] <psusi> jrib: doesn't list feisty yet
[05:16] <Nergar> when does xubuntu comes out???
[05:16] <psusi> pov: yea, but only for the dvd appearntly
[05:16] <Dorkstyle> HELP: Has anyone successfully installed the "update-manager-core" on Edgy Server to Update to Feisty?
[05:16] <Daverocks> dalton1976: you mean sometimes clicking in rdeskop doesn't work?
[05:16] <aa^way> Hoxxin yes
[05:16] <Alan> LjL, i already have a working Xinerama dual-monitor config under Gentoo anyway, so i guess i'll just copy that if i switch
[05:16] <jrib> psusi: hmm, try clearing your cache of the page.   Might as well exploit the upload
[05:17] <jrib> psusi: what country are you in?
[05:17] <dalton1976> Daverocks: no, anything in rdesktop and after anywhere in xwindows, i need to restart
[05:17] <psusi> jrib: US
[05:17] <PhilK> ravi_: for the love of god disable that thing :(
[05:17] <Kaloz> Hairulfr: 100Mb/s should do fine :)
[05:17] <aa^way> Hoxxin yes
[05:17] <Daverocks> dalton1976: does this problem happen at random?
[05:17] <jrib> psusi: I sent you a pm with a mirror
[05:17] <dalton1976> daverocks: yes
[05:18] <Daverocks> dalton1976: but rdesktop is involved somehow?
[05:18] <dalton1976> daverocks: on 3 of my conputers
[05:18] <ravi_> PhillK: assumed my normal firewall disabled that stupid thing
[05:18] <psusi> finally, got the torrent started... heh
[05:18] <Hairulfr> Kaloz: We're far behind here... 100/100 is avail. a few places, but the still sell 256/64 lines...usch. I have a 20/2 (what a joke)
[05:18] <Hoxxin> aa^way:  go to network list -> choose the server -> edit -> character set and then choose ISO-8859-15 (Western Europe)
[05:18] <PhilK> ravi_: nope, Windows XP's firewall is very eager to help...unfortunately
[05:18] <ravi_> PhilK: thanks... shoulda known it was something on windows
[05:18] <Kaloz> Hairulfr: that's my server.. at home i have 10/1 only
[05:18] <PhilK> ravi_: no problem
[05:18] <dalton1976> daverocks: this is the software i used each time it happend
[05:18] <ravi_> PhilK: Yeah, this is on Windows x64 Pro
[05:19] <davehimself> any links for torrents for ubuntu 7.04?
[05:19] <PhilK> davehimself: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ bottom of page
[05:19] <Hairulfr> davehimself: http://ubuntu.mirrors.hamishlobb.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:19] <esmebo> maria
[05:19] <davehimself> thanks guys
[05:19] <LjL> !es | esmebo
[05:19] <ubotu> esmebo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:19] <esmebo> maria
[05:20] <KillerBunny> Do i still need to do that alternative trick when installing ubuntu on a x800 ?
[05:20] <PovAddict> esmebo: wtf?
[05:20] <KillerBunny> Radeon that is
[05:20] <aa^way> thanks Hoxxin <3
[05:20] <magnetron> davehimself: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:20] <Hoxxin> aa^way:  no problem :D
[05:20] <ravi_> PhilK: btw, do you know how to ensure that I am running Feisty and not Feisty beta?
[05:20] <dalton1976> daverocks: Any ideas?
[05:21] <disasm> ravi_: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade - if it doesn't install anything, it's not the beta
[05:21] <Daverocks> dalton1976: did you get rdesktop from the repositories?
[05:21] <PhilK> ravi_: feisty is feisty AFAIK, as long as you're up to date you're fine
[05:21] <lungan> wine: creating configuration directory '/root/.wine'...  what is the problem if nothing happens after this in terminal :S
[05:21] <virdiq> ubuntu torrents are downloading at 4gbps a second now overall :)
[05:21] <ravi_> disasm: PhilK: ok, thanks, did that upd/grade already
[05:21] <lungan> wine: creating configuration directory '/root/.wine'...  what is the problem if nothing happens after this in terminal :S
[05:22] <imc_> I had installed fuse and encfs; now whenever I run ANY sudo command, it attempts to mount encfs, which I have uninstalled. Any ideas?
[05:22] <dalton1976> daverocks: excuse-me repositories? what is this word, i'm canadian-french?
[05:22] <Daverocks> virdiq: crazy
[05:22] <LjL> !repositories > dalton1976    (dalton1976, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:22] <KillerBunny> Anyone thougs on the ubuntu radeon x800 ?
[05:22] <PhilK> lungan: don't run wine as root...it's bad
[05:22] <Daverocks> dalton1976: did you use synaptic or apt-get or something similar to get it?
[05:22] <virdiq> yes, and that doesn't include http mirrors :)
[05:22] <PirateHead> What is the command to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?
[05:23] <crdlb> !upgrade | PirateHead
[05:23] <ubotu> PirateHead: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:23] <asdfjkloe> i have windows installed on another partition, what type of partition should i take for the ubuntu partition? primary?
[05:23] <asdfjkloe> and what type for the swap drive?
[05:24] <imc_> asdfjkloe WIndows wants the primary partition
[05:24] <slackern_> asdfjkloe, just 'swap'
[05:24] <imc_> swap is sawp
[05:24] <imc_> s/sawp/swap ;)
[05:24] <dalton1976> daverocks: to get rdesktop? i'm sorry, i don't understand well
[05:24] <PovAddict> imc_: you swapped letters there
[05:24] <dalton1976> daverocks: thanks for the link
[05:24] <imc_> PovAddict, yes then corrected it
[05:24] <Dorkstyle> What repository is "update-manager-core" in? I am trying to update Edgy Server and it says "Couldn't find package" from apt-get
[05:24] <Daverocks> dalton1976: yes, to get rdesktop. was that causing your problem?
[05:24] <rambo3> How do i downgrade to edgy?? one!!
[05:24] <lungan> Philk: I got same msg just diffrent directory :S
[05:24] <imc_> Anyone on this bizarre fuse/encfs/ sudo problem
[05:25] <asdfjkloe> if i choose swap i also got the options primary/logical
[05:25] <LjL> !downgrade | rambo3
[05:25] <ubotu> rambo3: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:25] <steven_> Hello all. I"m having a feisty download problem I can't seem to resolve. When I run update manager to get the new distro, i receive the following: Error during update
[05:25] <steven_> A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry. It then proceeds to say: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[05:25] <steven_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Any ideas?
[05:25] <Daverocks> dalton1976: i didn't give you the link, LjL did ;)
[05:25] <jrib> !paste | steven_
[05:25] <ubotu> steven_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <chewed-on> I bet everyone's going crazy about Fiesta Fawn.
[05:25] <magnetron> asdfjkloe: there is a maximum of 4 primary partitions on a hard drive
[05:25] <slackern_> asdfjkloe, You can have max 4 primary partitons on a harddrive as far as i know, but you can have more logical partitions inside of an extended partition
[05:25] <PhilK> lungan: ok, it's a step in the right direction anyway :)  you're not getting any error messages at all?
[05:25] <Zorlin> yeah we are
[05:25] <Zorlin> ;P
[05:25] <LjL> chewed-on: yes, in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:25] <dalton1976> daverocks: I used the rdesktop from the 6.06 distribution, i did not download it!
[05:26] <Zorlin> mine's 83% done
[05:26] <chewed-on> If I try to install Ubuntu, will it overwrite Fedora Core 6 ?
[05:26] <Daverocks> dalton1976: oh right, it comes with ubuntu
[05:26] <LjL> chewed-on: not unless you instruct it to
[05:26] <Daverocks> chewed-on: depends how you install it
[05:26] <Dorkstyle> What repository is "update-manager-core" in? I am trying to update Edgy Server and it says "Couldn't find package" from apt-get
[05:26] <chewed-on> Well, Fedora Core 6 uses Logical Volume Management, and that doesn't allow me to partition my hard drive I think. . .
[05:26] <LjL> !info update-manager-core edgy
[05:26] <ubotu> Package update-manager-core does not exist in edgy
[05:26] <steven_> jrib: thanks!
[05:27] <Daverocks> chewed-on: you can
[05:27] <lungan> Philk: wine: creating configuration directory '/home/user/.wine' i got that instead but i never got any error msg but nothing happens and i have waited fr like 10 minutes now :S
[05:27] <drfoz> anybody know of any good how-to's for getting lirc to work on feisty?
[05:27] <chewed-on> Daverocks: oh hell yes, please do explain.
[05:27] <steven_> I'm having a feisty download problem. I have it posted @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16406/
[05:27] <dalton1976> daverocks: i will try those other version on the link LjL gave me.  Thanks
[05:27] <asdfjkloe> so first i create the swap, 300 mb, type logical, afterward the "root"-pratition mit the mount point "/", also logical, any mistakes?
[05:27] <psusi> weird.... more seeds in the amd64 torrent than the i386...
[05:27] <ror> does anyone have a torrent for feisty from a reasonably reputable vendor? (not saying I don't *trust* torrentspy, just I'd feel safer grabbing one from a recognised mirror)
[05:27] <NewbieBaba> Feisty <3 xD
[05:27] <PovAddict> psusi: wow
[05:27] <Daverocks> chewed-on: you could always get the gparted live cd
[05:27] <LjL> ror:  http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:27] <chewed-on> Daverocks: how do I make it so I can have both Ubuntu and Fedora Core 6 co-exist without formating my hard drive ?
[05:27] <firecrotch> ror: As long as the md5sum is the same, whats's the worry?
[05:27] <ror> ta
[05:28] <PhilK> lungan: does it look like it's doing anything or just returned you to a prompt?
[05:28] <lollolbg> guys, can someone paste me /etc/environment
[05:28] <Whisperkiller> what is feistey?
[05:28] <KoZi> how about an amd one
[05:28] <Dorkstyle> ubotu: The upgrade instructions on ubuntu.com are incorrect then, it says to install that package on Edgy to upgrade to Feisty
[05:28] <Hamppari> I have a question.. Does upgrading to Feisty break my 3D acceleration and corrupt my drivers.. I have ATI Radeon Xpress 200M on my laptop
[05:28] <chewed-on> Daverocks: that's the problem, gparted couldn't partition my hard drive because Fedora Core 6 uses Logical Volume Management.
[05:28] <LjL> Whisperkiller: the codename for the latest version of Ubuntu
[05:28] <Daverocks> chewed-on: make room for another ext3 partition, and tell the ubuntu installer to install to that one. you can use the same swap partition for FC6 and ubuntu, because they won't be running at the same time
[05:28] <LjL> Whisperkiller: and it's Feisty
[05:28] <Daverocks> chewed-on: really?
[05:28] <ror> whoah I just got systemdoctor2006 (spyware) popups in firefox, dang they're getting pervasive D:
[05:28] <Angeluz> Hamppari: fglrx or radeon?
[05:28] <chewed-on> Daverocks: yeah. . .
[05:28] <Hamppari> fglrx
[05:29] <Whisperkiller> oh so if im downloading 7.04 then im getting feistey?
[05:29] <Whisperkiller> feisty
[05:29] <PovAddict> Whisperkiller: yep
[05:29] <capiira> yeah
[05:29] <lollolbg> guys, can someone paste me /etc/environment :/?
[05:29] <Whisperkiller> cool
[05:29] <slackern_> lollolbg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16407/
[05:29] <lollolbg> aa slackern_  10x
[05:29] <Hamppari> Angeluz FGLRX
[05:29] <magnetron> Whisperkiller: feisty is the new release of ubuntu, released today
[05:29] <slackern_> lollolbg, site was a bit slow so took me some time to get it there :)
[05:29] <DanaG> Hmm, xfce breaks my keyboard when I try to use it.
[05:30] <DanaG> I end up with arrow keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown being japanese input method keys.
[05:30] <_Neil> fiesty made my terminal font go huuuge
[05:30] <piedoggie> having a problem with sudo and running commands as another user without password
[05:30] <lungan> tried restart but still "locks" when creating
[05:30] <chewed-on> Crap, there's only 250+ people in Fedora, yet 1500+ in Ubuntu!
[05:30] <aubade> piedoggie: Add the user to /etc/sudoers.
[05:30] <magnetron> Feisty ate my hamster
[05:30] <dorka> hello everybody
[05:30] <flodine> can some tell me how to get e17 in fiesty or a link
[05:31] <Hooloovoo> Umm... my X server wont start up when i try to boot from the CD.
[05:31] <Skyhook> does anyone have a nvidia 6600LE
[05:31] <jrib> piedoggie: what problem?
[05:31] <fuzzy_logic> dorka: hi
[05:31] <mjunx> lol nice number of people in here >_>
[05:31] <aubade> Should be something like 'username     ALL=(ALL) ALL'.
[05:31] <stefg> !test | stefg
[05:31] <piedoggie> all ALL = (www-data) NOPASSWD: /var/akasha/python/test.py
[05:31] <Stickymaddness> woah....the chan finally made 1500+
[05:31] <sebastianffx> hi guys
[05:31] <saxin> \o/
[05:31] <mjunx> hey, why did #ubuntu+1 disappear?
[05:31] <fuzzy_logic> sebastianffx: hi
[05:31] <mg___> chewed-on, 1k gentoo :-P
[05:32] <LjL> mjunx: because there is no Ubuntu+1. Feisty is released.
[05:32] <mjunx> how dare you artificially inflate the user count hehe
[05:32] <piedoggie> trying to give all users the ability to execute the command test.py as www-data
[05:32] <mjunx> yeah there is; gutsy gibon or something like that
[05:32] <xtknight2> !gutsy
[05:32] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[05:32] <mjunx> I don't know what a gibbon is, so I can't spell :)
[05:32] <xtknight2> nothing really done on it yet though
[05:32] <LjL> mjunx: yes, it doesn't exist though. nothing to talk about. anyway, there's nothing inflated - look at the topic
[05:32] <xtknight2> gibbon=an ape ;)
[05:32] <ror> firecrotch: I dind't have the md5sum :/
[05:32] <chewed-on> Any torrents for Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:32] <mjunx> I know that it's out
[05:32] <lungan> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/lungan/.wine'...
[05:32] <chewed-on> (download faster)
[05:32] <xtknight2> chewed-on absolutely
[05:32] <LjL> chewed-on:  http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:33] <jhaig> mjunx: I know you are joking, but the user count here already inflated long before #ubuntu+1 disappeared.
[05:33] <mjunx> chewed-on, thepiratebay has one
[05:33] <maxb_> Is there documentation about what weird magic goes on inside update-manager?
[05:33] <dorka> I have a problem of can help
[05:33] <chewed-on> :)
[05:33] <lungan> whats wrong if nothing happens after that? wine: creating configuration directory '/home/lungan/.wine'...
[05:33] <chewed-on> Aren't you guys fast :-P
[05:33] <chewed-on> with links
[05:33] <Ferrixman> sorry guys... do you know if ATI Mobility Xxxx are already supported in feisty?
[05:33] <piedoggie> jrib: see what i was trying to do?
[05:33] <_Neil> the menus have disappeared from terminal... want to edit my profile to get the font to normal size, any ideas?
[05:33] <xtknight2> maxb_ you mean the changing of sources.list from edgy to feisty and apt-get dist-upgrade? :P
[05:33] <mjunx> jhaig, well, I got the news about the inflation on /., so I opened up konversation to check
[05:33] <aubade> There should be a torrent for on just about every mirror.
[05:33] <maxb_> I'd rather like to know what it's going to do, other than "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:33] <Daverocks> chewed-on: looks like the alternate ubuntu CD has support for LVM partitioning
[05:33] <FunnyLookinHat> Ferrixman, they are, especially with proprietary drivers.  see !ati
[05:33] <xtknight2> maxb_nothing else.
[05:33] <jrib> maxb_: not that I know of, except for the source code itself (it's python)
[05:33] <aubade> Check on linuxtracker.org if not.
[05:33] <xtknight2> maxb_ the packages themselves help the migration
[05:33] <mjunx> maxb_, I believe it updates your sources.list and does a dist-upgrade basically
[05:33] <chewed-on> Daverocks: hey ?
[05:33] <Ferrixman> FunnyLookinHat, i mean... will i have to install drivers again?
[05:33] <maxb_> Given that it just downloaded a mysterious python program, I'd really like some more info
[05:34] <mjunx> maxb_, and automates some of the tasks needed after the upgrade (like updating /etc/kernel-img.conf I hope)
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Ferrixman, if you are upgrading to Feisty, you should not have to.
[05:34] <magnetron> lungan: the first time it's run it have to create the .wine directory
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Ferrixman, as long as they are already installed on your current system.
[05:34] <_Neil> network montiro is now unreadable in fiesty, any ideas? all the text shows as blocks :/
[05:34] <Zorlin> Welcome
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Ferrixman, if for some reason they don't install, go to System - Admin - Restricted Manager and just check the box that says "Enable" next to your video card    : )
[05:34] <lungan> magnetron: therefore it takes over 10 minutes to create it??
[05:34] <Daverocks> chewed-on: the alternate, text-based install CD
[05:34] <gumpish> So, is it possible to search packages descriptions for more than one keyword using packages.ubuntu.com ?
[05:35] <Ferrixman> FunnyLookinHat, unfortunately, i've not enough space... i need 70 Mb of free disk and i don't know how to get them
[05:35] <chewed-on> Daverocks: will it be able to partition my Fedora so I can install Ubuntu ?
[05:35] <lungan> magnetron: have waited like 15 min now
[05:35] <Zorlin> Chewed-on: Its possible
[05:35] <Daverocks> chewed-on: possibly :P
[05:35] <PovAddict> gumpish: that never worked for me; maybe they fixed it
[05:35] <delire> chewed-on: likely
[05:35] <chewed-on> O.o
[05:35] <chewed-on> How sure are you ?
[05:35] <DanaG> yay, gusty gibbon
[05:35] <Zorlin> Chewed-on: Boot from the livecd, and then use GParted to edit the partitions
[05:35] <delire> chewed-on: quite
[05:35] <DanaG> (heh, I know it's gutsy)
[05:35] <chewed-on> Any of you done it before ?
[05:35] <gumpish> PovAddict:  I was hoping there was some magic syntax, like I had to use AND or something, but nothing works. =p
[05:35] <Zorlin> Chewed-on: Make sure to back up your GRUB or LILO settings
[05:35] <Mitsuo> can i go from nfts to linux filysystem without losing data?
[05:36] <PovAddict> gumpish: plain broken imho
[05:36] <magnetron> lungan: maybe the you are running isn't supported in wine yet?
[05:36] <gumpish> thanks
[05:36] <Betzefer> how can i upgrade from the beta version to the full version
[05:36] <Betzefer> ?
[05:36] <FunnyLookinHat> Ferrixman, you don't have 70 free megabytes??  ouch...  um...   dang, try to free some up, that's all i can suggest
[05:36] <Daverocks> Zorlin: that's the thing, it's LVM so regular partitioning doesn't work very well
[05:36] <Zorlin> Mitsuo: Back it up and copy it to a network location, external hard drive, or across some DVD's in multiple parts
[05:36] <FunnyLookinHat> Betzefer, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <Ferrixman> when i first created partitions, i created a partition of 5 GB with / folder and 25 GB with /home/
[05:36] <Zorlin> Mitsuo: Format it and then copy the data back after an install
[05:36] <KoZi> does this latest version have better support for broadcom wireless cards?
[05:37] <magnetron> lungan: maybe the APP you are tryin to run isn't supported in Wine? check http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:37] <Mitsuo> what should i use? ext2,3 or reiserfs?
[05:37] <Zorlin> Daverocks: I don't know what LVM is, I'll look it up and get back to you
[05:37] <Betzefer> how can i upgrade from the beta version to the full version ?
[05:37] <Shaffox> can you upload to feisty from edgy ?
[05:37] <Ferrixman> so now i have 20 GB free, but Feisty needs 70 MB free in /etc/ and i don't know how to do
[05:37] <jrib> Betzefer: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:37] <Shaffox> are there any problems or not ?
[05:37] <delire> Mitsuo: ext3
[05:37] <Ferrixman> Shaffox, yes, go to upload manager
[05:37] <andy_> how can I get my digital out working on my soundcard?
[05:37] <magnetron> Betzefer: run update-manager and you are fine
[05:37] <Zorlin> Daverocks: You mean like a RAID configuration?
[05:37] <Shaffox> but there were problems from dapper to edgy so ..
[05:37] <Daverocks> Zorlin: kind of
[05:37] <Betzefer> it dosent upper there
[05:37] <delire> Zorlin: logical volume manager
[05:38] <Nicke> KoZi: The recent kernels has better support for bcm43xx atleast.. don't know about other models
[05:38] <bluefox83> hey the ubuntu update manager says that 7.04 is out, does that mean it's stable enough to upgrade to without any serious bugs?
[05:38] <KoZi> ok thanks
[05:38] <rubbs> Failed to Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.geole.info/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found <--is this a server problem or mine?
[05:38] <xtknight2> bluefox83 yes
[05:38] <Zorlin> Daverocks: Have you tried searching the forum?
[05:38] <KoZi> guess ill find out lol
[05:38] <Ferrixman> FunnyLookinHat, is it possible to move a folder from one partition of the disk to another?
[05:38] <Mitsuo> and final one, will 64 bit edition support my pentium d 2.8?
[05:38] <_Neil> anyone? network manager isnt readable
[05:38] <Betzefer> it dosent upper there
[05:38] <_Neil> all the letters are boxes
[05:38] <mg___> Ferrixman, sure y not?
[05:38] <Daverocks> Zorlin: heh, it's not my problem, it's chewed-on's :P
[05:38] <delire> rubbs: server likely. never heard of that repo
[05:38] <pollyo> Hello
[05:38] <firecrotch> rubbs: Could be either, really.
[05:38] <Ferrixman> dunno how to do
[05:38] <bluefox83> Ferrixman, as easy as drag and drop O.o
[05:38] <PovAddict> ok, lunch time
[05:39] <pollyo> Anyone here familiar with the ubuntu-live-support package?
[05:39] <Woody_> how can i update to 7.04 without downloading the .iso?
[05:39] <mg___> Ferrixman, the command you search is mv
[05:39] <Zorlin> Daverocks: Oh cr*wp, I wasnt paying attention very well then :P
[05:39] <Ferrixman> but mv copy one folder to the other
[05:39] <mg___> Ferrixman, mv old_location new_location
[05:39] <xtknight2> !upgrade | Woody_
[05:39] <ubotu> Woody_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:39] <Mitsuo> and final one, will 64 bit edition support my pentium d 2.8?
[05:39] <Ferrixman> don't know anything about partitions
[05:39] <Daverocks> Zorlin: lol no probs
[05:39] <mg___> Ferrixman, no mv moves, cp copies
[05:39] <xtknight2> Mitsuo uh is that CPU a 64bit?
[05:39] <FunnyLookinHat> It's not that easy mg___ ...  his root partition is full, so moving it to another partition will effectively put /etc/ in something like /home/etc/
[05:39] <chewed-on> *.*
[05:39] <Mitsuo> yea
[05:39] <delire> Ferrixman: no it doesn't. that's cp. mv renames (eg moves)
[05:39] <nick58b> Mitsuo, yeah, i think all pentium D chips are 64-bit
[05:39] <larryone> have things started to calm down in here yet?
[05:39] <Daverocks> Woody_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[05:39] <chewed-on> I want to try Ubuntu
[05:40] <andy_> I'm using a nforce motherboard and would like to enable the digital out of my soundcard. Anyone got a hint?
[05:40] <rubbs> I tried to upgrade using the update manager method and got the above error
[05:40] <mg___> Ferrixman, what exactly do you want to do?
[05:40] <Ferrixman> i have two different partitions; one has / (root) and the other has /home/
[05:40] <Mitsuo> it is 64bit, but last time i asked, i was told that only amd chips are supported
[05:40] <andy_> I checked the alsamixer but there, I can't find a digital out-out
[05:40] <rubbs> Failed to Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.geole.info/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found <--is this a server problem or mine?
[05:40] <rubbs> I tried to upgrade using the update manager method and got the above error
[05:40] <Ferrixman> the disk with /home is much bigger
[05:40] <Angeluz> rubbs: Try pinging the server directly.
[05:40] <xtknight2> yes all Pentium Ds are 64 bit
[05:40] <Pici> Mitsuo: AMD64 isos are EMT64 (intel) compatible
[05:40] <Ferrixman> while the one with root is only 5 GB
[05:40] <mg___> Ferrixman, as it should ok and what do you want to du?
[05:40] <Angeluz> If it doesn't respond, it's a server-problem.
[05:40] <rubbs> Angeluz: Ok I'll try that
[05:40] <mg___> -du +do
[05:41] <delire> Ferrixman: that's a good thing isn't it?
[05:41] <delire> Ferrixman: /home is where user data is which is the most important and generally larger part of a system.
[05:41] <Ferrixman> of course, but now i have no space on root, so i can't update to feisty
[05:41] <uh> o fuck! how many people!
[05:41] <Mitsuo> Pici: the simple answer is yes, right, i fear to get too confused.
[05:41] <capiira> does already exist a source with newest compiz ?
[05:41] <nbogdanoff> anyone else have issues with rdesktop with the display gettings blurry, or lines repeating when scrolling.  or if i drag a window the contents of that window becomes unreadable. -- the window displays part of the actual contents, but repeated throughout.  its all distorted basically.  ive got X running just fine with the proper drivers on dual monitor.  any ideas?
[05:41] <Zorlin> Everyone: Well guys, I'm out
[05:41] <Zorlin> !ohmy > uh
[05:41] <tukker> even kijken of het werkt
[05:41] <DanaG> Any idea why XFCE would break keyboard?
[05:41] <PriceChild> !ohmy | uh
[05:41] <ubotu> uh: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:41] <Zorlin> !ohmy
[05:41] <Pici> Mitsuo: Correct, the simple answer is yes.
[05:41] <DanaG> Oh, and my scroll pad doesn't work when I first log into gnome,
[05:41] <delire> uh ;)
[05:41] <Mitsuo> Pici: Thank You! ^^
[05:42] <DanaG> but then about 10 minutes later it randomly starts working.
[05:42] <rubbs> Angeluz: I'm not getting anything
[05:42] <Doug52392> I just tried to upgrade to Ubuntu 7.02, but had a download speed of 50kb/sec.
[05:42] <Zorlin> 7.04*
[05:42] <Zorlin> Try using a mirror close to you
[05:42] <kitche> Doug52392: your point being hte servers are being hammered
[05:42] <Ferrixman> delire, when i upload from edgy to feisty, it says it needs 70 MB in /etc/
[05:42] <Doug52392> it was going to take over 4 hours.
[05:43] <delire> rubbs: try changing your repos to more common ones? the repo that is having problems sounds very uncommon.
[05:43] <jrib> Doug52392: you can continue to use your system while it upgrades
[05:43] <Ferrixman> i'm new to linux, i don't know what to do to clean space
[05:43] <mg___> Ferrixman, so you want to move your root to another partition?
[05:43] <stefg> yeah... forget about configuring your fresh feisty install at the moments... the mirrors are overloaded
[05:43] <aaroncampbell> I have a strange problem with Kubuntu Feisty.  Sometimes when I boot, sda and sdb are switched.  sda is my main drive, and sdb is a RAID running on a 3WARE card, and mounting in /home ...In fstab, the main device has a UUID (whatever that is), and it seems to mount properly no matter whether it is hda or hdb.  However, the other doesn't...can I set up a UUID for it too?  And if so, how?
[05:43] <Ferrixman> or maybe just to free some space
[05:43] <mg___> Ferrixman, is /home another physical hard drive or just a partition?
[05:43] <xtknight2> aaroncampbell try the "blkid" command
[05:43] <Ferrixman> partition
[05:43] <guillem101> Is it possible to tell the update-manager just to donwload the packages required for the upgrade to Feisty and do not install?
[05:43] <Whisperkiller> will feisty run on older machines?
[05:43] <delire> Ferrixman: the fact you don't have enough in /etc is an issue yes.
[05:43] <Zorlin> First thing i'm going to do with my feisty install...
[05:44] <Zorlin> Flash 9 :)
[05:44] <mg___> download the gparted live cd and increase your root partition size while decreasing your home partiton
[05:44] <chewed-on> :( no one is helping me in Fedora channel.
[05:44] <aaroncampbell> mg___: physical hard drive (a RAID actually)
[05:44] <mandel> hi, can I copy the content of an ubuntu installation disk over to a usb stick and boot it from there?
[05:44] <aaroncampbell> oops...that wasn't directed to me
[05:44] <Ferrixman> mg___, does it do it maintaining files untouched?
[05:44] <xtknight2> guillem101 i believe so, take a look at "man update-manager" perhaps?
[05:44] <xtknight2> !boot
[05:44] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:44] <xtknight2> !install
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:44] <delire> Ferrixman: don't take my advice just yet, but it may be possible to simply move the contents of /etc into / and remove the /etc/ mount manually from /etc/fstab
[05:44] <Kitagua> i have a question regarding video playback. iam trying to play a divx vid with different players (totem,vlc) they both have the same effect. i can hear the sound but i do not see the picture. when i am resizing the window of totem or vlc i get the picture but only for a second. after resizing the picture is black again.
[05:45] <DanaG> oh, anybody who is on "Internet2"
[05:45] <andy_> Is there a katapult alternative for gnome?
[05:45] <Zorlin> Hey guys
[05:45] <DanaG> there's http://san1.csc.calpoly.edu/ubuntu
[05:45] <delire> mg___: didn't he say he has a partition for /etc itself?
[05:45] <Zorlin> DanaG, you mean Web 2.0?
[05:45] <joeljkp> congratulations all
[05:45] <xtknight2> internet2?
[05:45] <beijing> :)
[05:45] <xtknight2> that exists yet? :p
[05:45] <Ferrixman> delire, no...
[05:45] <mg___> delire, i don't know ^^ everyone tells another story *g*
[05:45] <DanaG> It's a lame name for a network of colleges.
[05:45] <tukker> test
[05:45] <leagris> Kitagua, look like you could try mplayer or vlc with different video outputs. try xv, gl, gl2 ...
[05:45] <Ferrixman> i have a partition for / and one for /home/
[05:45] <Ferrixman> so /etc/ is where / is
[05:45] <magnetron> andy_ : katapult
[05:46] <magnetron> andy_ : ?
[05:46] <mg___> Ferrixman, so two partitions on one physical hard drive?
[05:46] <Ferrixman> yes
[05:46] <delire> Ferrixman: ahah ok.. well do as mg___ suggests. i read the "needs 70mb me space in /etc" as /etc being a separate partition.
[05:46] <beijing> Ferr so you have / and swap only
[05:46] <Zorlin> Everyone who has the ISO, please seed! :)
[05:46] <whitehawk> hi
[05:46] <andy_> magnetron, doesn't that use alot of resources then when I have to start all the KDE stuff too?
[05:46] <Ferrixman> mg___, gparted is a bootable program?
[05:46] <Woody_> im not getting anything in the Update Manager
[05:46] <mg___> Ferrixman, yes it is. very straight forward to use, too
[05:47] <magnetron> andy_ : sorry, i don't understand your question.
[05:47] <chewed-on> Guys, this was the problem with Gparted: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/Ryu_Kaiser/gparted_warning.png
[05:47] <leagris> Zorlin, already seeded twice the CD amount
[05:47] <mg___> Ferrixman, quite like partition magic but with more functionality and more supported file systems
[05:47] <whitehawk> I set up a wifi connection manually, I set it up for WPA but I want to change it to WPA2, how can I dod that in ubuntu?
[05:47] <zaggynl> Why was I removed from ubuntu+1?
[05:47] <Ferrixman> yes, looking on the site rite now
[05:47] <andy_> magnetron, doesn't katapult then have to load some kde libraries?
[05:47] <acuster> how does one get the name of the release one is running?
[05:47] <mg___> zaggynl, because ubuntu+1 is now ubuntu
[05:47] <Ferrixman> tnx mg___ and tnx delire
[05:47] <zaggynl> ah okay
[05:47] <Ferrixman> ^_^
[05:47] <mg___> since 7.04 is realeased
[05:47] <bododo> Hi folks!
[05:47] <stefg> ipv6 > stefg
[05:47] <whitehawk> besides removing the settings from .gconf
[05:47] <zaggynl> I have this usb issue
[05:47] <stefg> !ipv6 > stefg
[05:47] <zaggynl> it won't mount my usb case anymore
[05:47] <addam1> if I had the beta version of Feisty, how do I upgrade to the real version ?
[05:47] <Zorlin> Leagris: Already *Downloaded* twice the CD amount =O I accidentally D\Led from BitTorrent without realising
[05:47] <zaggynl> says the mountpoint doesn't excist
[05:48] <bododo> got a stupid question, why have I to switch to ubuntu?
[05:48] <bododo> I'm using FC6
[05:48] <chewed-on> Any ideas ?
[05:48] <zaggynl> bododo, don't have to, you have the choice
[05:48] <beijing> acuster: cat /etc/issue :)
[05:48] <acuster> thanks
[05:48] <fuzzy_logic> addaml: that happens automatically :)
[05:48] <whitehawk> bododo you don't have to
[05:48] <chewed-on> bododo: hey, we're in the same boat :)
[05:48] <bododo> zaggynl: sorry my english is somehow poor for it's my 4th lge, I meant how can you convince me :)
[05:48] <zaggynl> dang it's getting crowded in here
[05:49] <andy_> magnetron, I found gnome launch box :)
[05:49] <magnetron> andy_ : i never tried katapult, ask some of the KDE fans here
[05:49] <rambo3> bododo, there is nothing wrong with fc
[05:49] <Doug52392> how do you specify a different mirror for the Ubuntu 7.04 upgrade using the Update Manager?
[05:49] <bododo> I'm not saying that folks :)
[05:49] <magnetron> andy_ : great
[05:49] <bododo> just that I want to try it out and I'm thinking...
[05:49] <kitche> bododo: no one can convince you you must convince yourself
[05:49] <xavickson> Yeyy Ubuntu 7.04 is released :D... but I can't download it now because I'm near my bandwidth limit and I don't want to pay extra... I'll download in the happy ours, that are 4 hours from now... But in the mean time, anyone of you knows where can I find a review of the final release ?
[05:49] <bododo> I wonder
[05:49] <Rynoo> Is there an option to upgrade from 6.10 on the 7.04 CD?
[05:49] <bododo> you see?
[05:49] <zaggynl> bododo, improved hardware support, video drivers and beryl without much effort
[05:49] <chewed-on> Hey I have the option to "format to > ext3" will that kill Fedora ?
[05:49] <kitche> bododo: grab hte desktop cd and go it's a livecd
[05:49] <diablo_> hello
[05:49] <Daverocks> chewed-on: yes
[05:50] <diablo_> can somebody help me in how can i start my photoshopCS2?
[05:50] <chewed-on> Daverocks: bah, sucky
[05:50] <whitehawk> bododo I'm using gentoo, but I have ubuntu too. It's getting real nice. Ofcourse it's only a birary distro, but one of the best
[05:50] <Doug52392> How do you download the Ubuntu 7.04 upgrade from a different mirror?
[05:50] <kitche> diablo_: wine /path/to/photoshop
[05:50] <crdlb> Rynoo, you need the alternate cd for an offline upgrade
[05:50] <chewed-on> Dammit why did they design Fedora Core 6 like this ?
[05:50] <diablo_> thanks a lot
[05:50] <slackern_> xavickson, http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn.html here is a little review
[05:50] <mg___> Daverocks, shouldn't fedora be able to deal with ext3?
[05:50] <bododo> kitche: well, fc7 will be a live cd too, I mean is the ubuntu cd well packaged without a lot of hassle
[05:50] <Rynoo> crdlb: ah.
[05:50] <xavickson> thanks slackern_ :D
[05:50] <Paul_UK> does wine work with office 2003?
[05:50] <magnetron> see you, will install feisty now
[05:51] <Daverocks> mg___: yes but formatting to ext3 erases it
[05:51] <kitche> bododo: umm you just boot it thats how livecd's work
[05:51] <PhilK> is it possible to make do-release-upgrade use the cd image?  I hate to waste Ubuntu's bandwidth if I can avoid it
[05:51] <delire> whitehawk: it's not "only a binary distro" at all. you can use apt to download and compile from source as you wish.
[05:51] <bododo> zaggynl: beryl isn't a concern, I'm building it from svn
[05:51] <asdfjkloe> mh :\ error occurred - failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox-locale-all/mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu-1.all.deb konnte nicht mit de.archive.ubuntu.com:80 vebinden - connect (110 connection timed out) - is it fatal for the whole installation??
[05:51] <bododo> (I used to)
[05:51] <chewed-on> Dammit, upload faster guys!
[05:51] <chewed-on> :)
[05:51] <cables> chewed-on, I'm trying! :)
[05:51] <andy_> when I press Alt+Space, I always get a gnome menu, where can I disable that shortcut? I already looked under System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts and that shortcut isn't listed there.
[05:51] <chewed-on> I'm only downloading at 200KB +
[05:51] <mg___> Daverocks,chewed-on, ah formatting ok. but you can migrate as far as i know
[05:51] <Ferrixman> mg___, gparted is the one which usually starts when installing ubuntu, isn't it?
[05:51] <bododo> kitche: I know! got forgives! :) FC7 will be a live one too
[05:51] <bluefox83> Paul_UK, you could probably get office 2003 to work in wine, they have done a lot of work to get office apps working in it. but you should try OpenOffice!
[05:51] <aubade> Paul_UK: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3214
[05:51] <chewed-on> mg___: hey ?
[05:51] <Skyhook> does anyone know where I can find the Md5sums for desktop amd64?
[05:52] <kitche> bododo: well they have a live cd but there is prime that they have also
[05:52] <mg___> Ferrixman, i don't know
[05:52] <`sam`> i guess i've had feisty final for a few days now
[05:52] <mg___> i downloaded it and use it on a live cd
[05:52] <Raeth> Hello, are the Ubuntu servers down?
[05:52] <JimTB> Is there any chance to get the ATI drivers working in Feisty? Or I will just have to wait until they update them to support xorg 7.2?
[05:52] <bododo> let's be clearer, I'm wondering if ubuntu will bring the essential packages I want since it's on ONE cd
[05:52] <Paul_UK> aubade: thanks, cos i couldnt get office 2003 to work with crossover
[05:52] <mg___> Ferrixman, i'm using this one http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-livecd-0.2.5-1.iso?download
[05:52] <bododo> that's my real concern, having a very "shity" connexion
[05:52] <fuzzy>  i have 60 giga in C: in windows. i want to resize the partition but i don't know if resizing will destroy the windows installation. partition manager would handle the free space and won't let me resize over the existing files.
[05:53] <Ferrixman> i'm downloading the last release
[05:53] <fuzzy> in gparted i don't see anything like this. it lets me resize that partitions to 0. if i have 40 giga free on that partition and i'll create a 13 giga partition, will gparted hurt my system?
[05:53] <virdiq> ubuntuforums.org is holding up very well... with 6000 users on the site!
[05:53] <Raeth> My Feisty is using gb.archive.ubuntu.com and it's not connecting
[05:53] <zaggynl> I installed feisty beta, can I just keep ugrading?
[05:53] <Pici> zaggynl: Yes.
[05:53] <zaggynl> cool
[05:53] <dave_> Hey I'm having a problem with upgrading.  I start the software update thing, and it has a "New distrobution release 7.04 is available" with upgrade button... When I click upgrade, it downloads 2 packages then gives an error: "Authentication Failed.. there may be a problem with the network or with the server"  Is there a problem?
[05:53] <chewed-on> What you lazy buggers doing ? Upload FASTER! :-p
[05:53] <beijing> fuzzy: backup, backup
[05:53] <psst> I want to use my ubuntu machine as a gateway, but only to a subnet it can reach via a VPN client
[05:54] <fuzzy> hmm
[05:54] <Pici> zaggynl: Just run the update-manager like you're just getting updates, no need to use the upgrade CD.
[05:54] <kitche> dave_: the servers are being hammered
[05:54] <fuzzy> oki
[05:54] <psusi> fuzzy: gparted can resize ntfs partitions, but it shouldn't let you make it smaller than the used space
[05:54] <psst> can anyone suggest how I get started?
[05:54] <bluefox83> i think i am in need of a new server to get mine to connect to as well, i have a 5mb connection and it wants to download at 11k :X
[05:54] <mg___> fuzzy, gparted shouldn't let you resize your partition to such a tiny amount
[05:54] <beijing> chewed-on: 200KB not enough ? :)
[05:54] <leagris> chewed-on, ul speed: 1354.1 KB/s
[05:54] <mg___> fuzzy, which file system are you using?
[05:54] <dave_> kitche: So it should eventually work?
[05:54] <Tomcat_> psst: Google for "arno iptables firewall" and read the stuff there. It's a good script.
[05:54] <Scunizi> I'm running Fiesty and trying to match my ipod mod #A1136 to one of the models listed in Amarok.  I'm not sure which gen this ipod is.  White, video, 30gig.. Any ideas or does it really matter?
[05:54] <bododo> is there any list on the web of the shipped software in ubuntu cd, is there python in the cd? for example?
[05:54] <baha-d> hey where can i find 7.04's torrent ?
[05:54] <kitche> dave_: yeah probably in a week or so it should eb good
[05:54] <kitche> baha-d: from ubuntu.com
[05:54] <psst> Tomcat_: thanks
[05:54] <ubuntu> Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting
[05:54] <dave_> lol
[05:54] <ubuntu> Anyone know what that means_
[05:54] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi.  Dumb question.  Do I need to do anything to go 7.04 Beta -> 7.04 Final?
[05:55] <jaras> is it possible to get more plugins for the desktop effects?
[05:55] <Daviey> nerdygirl_ellie, no
[05:55] <bluefox83> Scunizi, video is 5th gen i think...
[05:55] <TuTuFF> psst: exactly as you would normally except instead of having a default route out the external interface, just route to the subnet the other end of the vpn has
[05:55] <holycow> guys i'm running ubuntu on core duo cpus and feisty is freezing all machines for 15 seconds intermittently.  because the entire system locks top really isn't usefull but i can tell that what its doing is making random apps that i'm using and throwing them into uninterruptible state while the cpu spikes to 100%
[05:55] <Agrajag> nerdygirl_ellie: yeah, update from the update manager
[05:55] <psusi> ubuntu: means the program crashed
[05:55] <Tomcat_> jaras: Yes, through manually adding them.
[05:55] <holycow> any tips on tracking down this issue?
[05:55] <Pici> nerdygirl_ellie: Nope, just use the update-manager to grab the latest updates.
[05:55] <virdiq> torrents are listed here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[05:55] <Doug52392> How do you download the Ubuntu 7.04 upgrade from a different mirror?
[05:55] <`sam`> nerdygirl_ellie, if there are no updates available then you probably already have it
[05:55] <fuzzy> ntf
[05:55] <chewed-on> leagris: why can't I download at 300KB/s then ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> psusi: Well... can you tell why from that error message?
[05:55] <chewed-on> That's my max.
[05:55] <fuzzy> mg___
[05:55] <mg___> fuzzy ^^
[05:55] <fuzzy> in gparted
[05:55] <psusi> ubuntu: no... figuring out why is up to a developer using a debugger
[05:55] <chewed-on> Oh right, now we're talking  :-P
[05:55] <fuzzy> near /dev/sda1
[05:56] <jaras> tomcat_ it's using compiz right?
[05:56] <leagris> chewed-on, because you have to share bandwidth overall with every downloaders
[05:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> TY all.
[05:56] <fuzzy> i see an exclamation sign in a triangle
[05:56] <zaggynl> my usb stick doesn't get mounted anymore
[05:56] <Dimensions> Hiya ... how can i check on my ubuntu machine from which ips i have got ssh (remote log in into my machine)
[05:56] <Scunizi> bluefox83: I'll give it a go but there is also a listing in the 6th gen catagory as well. Thanks..
[05:56] <fuzzy> and it doesn't show me how much used space is there
[05:56] <fuzzy> what can i do?
[05:56] <Paul_UK> bluefox83 : open office is gay sorry to say
[05:56] <fuzzy> what does that mean
[05:56] <ubuntu> psusi: Pff... i cant get X started when i boot from the CD.
[05:56] <Tomcat_> jaras: Usually... but you can use beryl as well.
[05:56] <psusi> fuzzy: means it can't access that filesystem
[05:56] <mg___> fuzzy, usb stick broken? i don't know
[05:56] <mg___> can you mount it?
[05:56] <fuzzy> nope
[05:56] <kitche> Dimensions: chech /var/log/messages and look for all ssh connections in it
[05:56] <fuzzy> it's a laptop hdd
[05:57] <poningru> holycow: ok so what I would do is look in klog
[05:57] <zaggynl> !usb
[05:57] <kitche> bluefox83: your correct
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <fuzzy> windows is installed on c
[05:57] <psusi> ubuntu: try the safe graphics boot option?
[05:57] <Rebecca> is it possible to setup software raid0 during the normal install process?
[05:57] <poningru> or holycow and dmesg and other logs
[05:57] <poningru> Rebecca: sure
[05:57] <poningru> !raid
[05:57] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:57] <IdleOne> !gutsy
[05:57] <psst> TuTuFF: I don't know how to do the 'normal' gateway either
[05:57] <mg___> fuzzy, you can start windows but you can't mount the partition?
[05:57] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[05:57] <ubuntu> psusi: Tried...
[05:57] <leagris> chewed-on, I'm doing that on a didacted server with enough bandwidth to upload. Bear in mind, most residential broadband users hav very limmited upload capabilities and most do have amount restrictions.
[05:57] <psusi> Rebecca: from the alternate install cd, yes
[05:57] <lungan> What is the default windows manager in 7.04?
[05:57] <Paul_UK> gnome
[05:57] <sioux> !sioux
[05:57] <Rebecca> psusi: okay :)
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sioux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <Ferrixman> mg___, do i have to start the autoconfiguration?
[05:58] <slackern> bah i want gibbon now, how long do we have to wait for it? :)
[05:58] <sioux> aridateme la paternit del nik
[05:58] <holycow> poningru, danke
[05:58] <`sam`> slackern, 6 months
[05:58] <psusi> Rebecca: you don't have one of those sata fake hardware raids do you?
[05:58] <mg___> ferrixman, autoconfiguration?
[05:58] <Ferrixman> at startup
[05:58] <chewed-on> leagris: :-)
[05:58] <mg___> ferrixman, you mean for choosing your xorg settings in gparted?
[05:58] <chewed-on> I'm just joking with you guys.
[05:58] <cramm> doh, .jigdo files for the i386 and amd64 files for the desktop CD are the only missing in the servers
[05:58] <Ferrixman> yes
[05:58] <bluefox83> lungan, to my knowledge all of the default window managers for ubuntu will be gnome...
[05:58] <mg___> how much disk space will 7.04 need? is a 10GiB partition enough (/home will be mouted seperatly)
[05:59] <Rebecca> psusi: no, it will be 2 x 8gb CF drives on an IDE bus.
[05:59] <kitche> cramm: umm there is jigdo files on the servers
[05:59] <mg___> ferrixman, if it works yes just let it auto configure
[05:59] <piksi> hmm. 7.04 is running pretty nice
[05:59] <boubbin> !lamp
[05:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:59] <piksi> way better than edgy was
[05:59] <Ferrixman> tnx
[05:59] <mg___> if it doesn't then setup manually
[05:59] <Ferrixman> cya later, i hope
[05:59] <Ferrixman> ^_^
[05:59] <mg___> ^^
[05:59] <piksi> especially the laptop extras seem to work better than they used in edgy
[05:59] <`sam`> is anybody trying the torrents? might be quicker with so many people downloading
[05:59] <mg___> good luck ferrixman
[05:59] <pollyo> I'm trying to use the "ubuntu-live-support" package and it isn't putting a menu in the System menu and if I attempt to start it in a terminal I get: usr/share/doc/ubuntu-live-support/README
[05:59] <kleftisx> how can i remove automatix?
[05:59] <bluefox83> mg___, depends on how many packages you already have installed, mine needs just shy of a gig because i have tons of stuff installed
[05:59] <pollyo> Opp...wrong thing
[05:59] <kitche> 'sam': they are as slow also
[05:59] <Stoffer> I instalelled the fiesty beta yesterday (the version from april 15th).  What do I need to do to update to the version that was released today?
[06:00] <pollyo> Syntax error: redirection unexpected
[06:00] <piksi> kitche: how so? i got 500kB/s
[06:00] <kitche> Stoffer: that is the final disc
[06:00] <Angeluz> Stoffer: Nothing.
[06:00] <fuzzy> mg___ it can be mounted
[06:00] <psusi> Stoffer: start up synaptic and update
[06:00] <piksi> Stoffer: nothing, the repositories are the same
[06:00] <kitche> piksi: I tried and only got 5 k/bs
[06:00] <fuzzy> it has the boot flag too
[06:00] <neil__> piksi, which laptop extras in particular? i just installed feisty on my new laptop
[06:00] <pollyo> Stoffer: Did you update it with adept?
[06:00] <cramm> kitche: do you mean in a separate directory? Because they are missing here http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/feisty/  (the other CDs have they .jigdo files there)
[06:00] <pollyo> Stofter: I mean the auto updater?
[06:00] <Stoffer> pollyo, no
[06:00] <kitche> cramm: it's on other mirrors
[06:00] <Rkyraccoon55> !network
[06:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:00] <mg___> bluefox83, new installtion for my sister's pc. it needs firefox, openoffice, gimp, some media players + codecs
[06:01] <pollyo> Stoffer: Did it tell you there were updates?
[06:01] <Stoffer> pollyo, oh, the auto one, yeah, the updated updater...I think
[06:01] <piksi> neil__: well, the wifi on intel 2200 works without fighting, also battery acpi monitoring *FINALLY* is not broken
[06:01] <neil__> ah
[06:01] <piksi> kitche: perhaps you got problems in your ports or connection
[06:01] <pollyo> Stoffer: You should be good to go until the next batch of updates.
[06:01] <mg___> ferrix, hmm i don't know then. perhaps you should go ask in a gparted support channel
[06:01] <Stoffer> pollyo, ok good, thanks
[06:01] <bluefox83> mg___, probably half a gig? maybe less...
[06:01] <kitche> piksi: nope it's the dvd torrent
[06:01] <neil__> have had mine plugged in all day so havent checked out the battery monitoring yet
[06:01] <delire> disasm: Debian developers can be proud of Ubuntu. Ubuntu entirely depends on them.
[06:01] <phx669> pocoto pocoto
[06:01] <ed_> are the 15th april feisty isos the final?
[06:01] <Zorlin> Has anyone installed VNC on Feisty yet?
[06:01] <saturn04> Congratulations with 7.04
[06:02] <mg___> bluefox83, half a gig? openoffice alone needs about 7GiB to build on gentoo
[06:02] <kitche> delire: well from the news I found debian depends on ubuntu now
[06:02] <bluefox83> mg___, you aren't building from source, you're installing binaries that have already been compiled
[06:02] <ed_> are the 15th april feisty isos the final?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> kitche: It's a two-way street
[06:02] <Zorlin> Kitche: Really? Debian *depends* on ubuntu!?
[06:02] <Stoffer> ed_, that's what they're telling me
[06:02] <piksi> neil__: yeah, there has been a big fight with some users on the acpi issues and suspend/hibernate, now they seem finally to be history
[06:02] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[06:02] <ed_> ok
[06:02] <foutrelis> ed_: Yes :)
[06:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:02] <surviver> zorlin, jup its true
[06:02] <ed_> thanks
[06:02] <mg___> bluefox83, oh, then thx :-) i'll make it 5GiB to be sure
[06:02] <bluefox83> Zorlin, ubuntu depends on debian...
[06:03] <ed_> so I should have downloaded ages ago
[06:03] <Whisperkiller> ok im done...sorry i just needed a laugh
[06:03] <ed_> :(
[06:03] <delire> kitche: not really.
[06:03] <hackle577> is anyone else unable to ugrade because the GUI hangs on package 62 of 65?
[06:03] <loconet> this isn't mentioned on the website installation notes and I don't remember but is there a option to upgrade a 6.10 installation using the 7.04 desktop cd?
[06:03] <delire> kitche: explain that.
[06:04] <PriceChild> loconet, no, only alternate disc
[06:04] <park13> I am passed 130 packages
[06:04] <jimwin> hey guys, just about to download 7.04, just wondering if there is any 64bit version for the intel architecture
[06:04] <LjL> jimwin: sure there is
[06:04] <IdleOne> !upgrade | loconet scroll down a little
[06:04] <ubotu> loconet scroll down a little: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:04] <Pici> jimwin: AMD64 supports EMT64 (intel)
[06:04] <jimwin> nice
[06:04] <jimwin> thanks guys
[06:04] <Zorlin> bluefox83: yeah, I knew that
[06:05] <JosefK> brilliant, Netbeans 5.5 in multiverse ^^
[06:05] <park13> is there a disadvantage doing an upgrade or a new install
[06:05] <m4st3r> on feisty , I am looking for KVM and KVM what's that?
[06:05] <phx669> pocoto pocoto
[06:05] <pollyo> Isn't there a way to add a CD as a repository?
[06:05] <Zorlin> bluefox83: but someone just said that debian now depends on ubuntu, which doesnt make sense, lol
[06:05] <delire> kitche: this is OT, but if Debian were to drop it's 16000 odd packages overnight then Ubuntu would not be able to exist. Ubuntu however could disappear, but this would have little immediate impact on Debian.
[06:05] <piksi> park13: sure there is if you've misconfigured your system, the upgrade might be problematic
[06:05] <LjL> pollyo: not the Desktop CD at least as far as I know. it's possible with the Alternate CD
[06:05] <Zorlin> M4st3r, do you mean VNC, or KDE?
[06:05] <hackle577> trying tio upgrade via GUI, I get this error message: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[06:05] <USMarine> park13 you can always try to upgrade
[06:05] <loconet> Interesting so the "alternate" CD is an "upgrade" only version?
[06:05] <PriceChild> loconet, no.
[06:05] <piksi> loconet: no it's not
[06:05] <psusi> no, the alternate cd is the install version
[06:05] <loconet> oh?
[06:05] <piksi> i installed from the alternate cd
[06:05] <surviver> zorlin, debian was there first, ubuntu made a kind of copie of debian so they have more (and better) packages install files ...
[06:05] <USMarine> what's the differece?
[06:05] <psusi> the desktop one is a livecd that can copy itself to your hard drive
[06:06] <LjL> !alternate > loconet    (loconet, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:06] <Pici> loconet: But is also supports upgrade
[06:06] <surviver> zorlin, but the idea came from debian
[06:06] <PriceChild> loconet, it allows upgrades whilst in the installed system. It also gives you a text based install
[06:06] <psusi> or just run normally
[06:06] <park13> USMarine: i did an new install on 6.10 yesterday :( so i was wondering if i should just do new install or just upgrade
[06:06] <kerik> hey guys!
[06:06] <Zorlin> surviver: *I KNOW* DARN IT
[06:06] <bluefox83> Zorlin, they had it backwards, the people who do the debian stuff are far more rigid about what goes into debian than the ubuntu folks are. takes almost a year sometimes between releases
[06:06] <m4st3r> zorlin//I thank it is virtual....I don't know well
[06:06] <piksi> park13: just upgrade
[06:06] <delire> kitche: Ubuntu is one of Debian's greatest complements. Debian's founding charter, as "a universal operating system"  was to provide for distributions like Ubuntu. Ubuntu has no such charter.
[06:06] <Styles> copy of debian = Fork of debian
[06:06] <USMarine> surviver i doubt ubuntu has more packages than debian
[06:06] <surviver> Zorlin, thought u didnt understand :p
[06:06] <kerik> anyone in here who knows a good torrent client?
[06:06] <park13> piksi: thanks
[06:06] <Zorlin> surviver: Yes, thats what I *thought*.
[06:06] <piksi> park13: should work perfectly
[06:06] <Pici> !offtopic
[06:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:06] <cramm> kitche: well they aren't inthe 4 mirrors I could enter (wow they are being hammered hard)
[06:06] <Dimensions> thanks kitche ... but when i checked my var/log/messages it doesn't say any thing except restarting other entries are empty ... is there any other log file i can check for it ?
[06:06] <surviver> USmarine, think it has ..
[06:06] <park13> does 7.10 have the new nvidia drivers?
[06:06] <holycow> debian is also of a FAR FAR FAR HIGHER quality than ubuntu with each release
[06:06] <Zorlin> surviver: They had it backwards :P
[06:06] <surviver> usmarine, i readed it somewhere
[06:06] <holycow> for its ENTIRE repository
[06:06] <LjL> !offtopic
[06:07] <Zorlin> Park13: the new release is called 7.04, not 7.10
[06:07] <loconet> so it's basically just an alternative way of installing . makes sense given its name ;)
[06:07] <USMarine> surviver debian supports more archs
[06:07] <surviver> zorlin, :)
[06:07] <loconet> Thank you for the info guys
[06:07] <piksi> park13: just get the binary linux drivers form nvidia, they are very easy to install
[06:07] <USMarine> so they must have more
[06:07] <surviver> USmarine, thats true
[06:07] <hackle577> trying to upgrade via GUI, I get this error message: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[06:07] <park13> piksi: ok
[06:07] <IdleOne> LjL, may I msg you?
[06:07] <LjL> IdleOne: yes
[06:07] <holycow> whereas ubuntu only has support for a few thousand apps ubuntu ships at current count something like 16 to 18k apps at a very high qu ality level
[06:07] <lolman> Hmm BitTorrent clients are killing my net connection
[06:07] <zaggynl> Anyone knows why feisty won't automount my usbstick?
[06:07] <disasm> ok, lets end the offtopicness I didn't mean to start a war by saying I asked about ubuntu in the wrong channel
[06:07] <LjL> will you move the Debian discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[06:07] <Styles> whoa man the repos are hammered right now
[06:07] <zaggynl> works fine manuall :(
[06:07] <kunwon1> Hooray for Feisty!
[06:07] <USMarine> zaggynl works fine in kubuntu
[06:08] <moktod> kunwon1: cept i'm finding all the mirrors are unreachable
[06:08] <zaggynl> some info on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2483310#post2483310
[06:08] <slackern> 9755,9631,7184 are the nvidia drivers available in feisty
[06:08] <disasm> zaggynl: days like today, I'm glad penn state has the carroll repository on campus ;-)
[06:08] <etank> does anyone have a good download link to get the final release?
[06:08] <Hairulfr> slackern: yeS
[06:08] <bluefox83> zaggynl, feisty was just officially released, maybe you should give everyone a chance to upgrade and play with it first before asking how to get stuff workin
[06:08] <sharingos> hi
[06:08] <sharingos>   I'm using ncurses on linux and System V objects. It seems that getch is under the effect of timeout(0) but I don't use this function ever. The program works properly using pipes or threads but with this system V not. Does anyone knows a possible motive of this situation? THANKS
[06:08] <Angeluz> stank, yes.
[06:08] <Angeluz> Wait a second.
[06:08] <kerik> Styles: so not only my reposes that act a little weird?
[06:08] <etank> all the ones that i see are from 4/15
[06:08] <Angeluz> ftp://ftp.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/7.04/
[06:09] <disasm> bluefox83: that seems like an odd response ;-)
[06:09] <_Neil> updated seems perfect
[06:09] <_Neil> thanks all :)
[06:09] <kerik> nobody in here knows how to download torrentz?
[06:09] <_Neil> update*
[06:09] <zaggynl> bluefox83, I can still ask :P, there are people like me who installed it _before_ it was removed from dev version
[06:09] <umop> Can I resize partiton while in ubuntu?  I dont have space to install apps, and have lots of spare room in /hom
[06:09] <kerik> I don't buy it ;)
[06:09] <defrysk> zaggynl, to get nvidia installed in panel System > administartion >restricted drivers manager (Feisty)
[06:09] <disasm> zaggynl: are you in the plugdev group?
[06:09] <Dimensions> Guys ... i have a remote machine i sshed into it from another machine a week ago i need ip that ip i did ssh from ..im loging to this machine now ... where can i check to see which ip has ssh into that machine ?
[06:09] <crdlb> umop, not while you're using it
[06:09] <zaggynl> defrysk, nvidia works fine
[06:09] <USMarine> etank http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[06:09] <PriceChild> umop, you can't resize a partition in use. boot up the live cd and use system>admin>gparted to resize it
[06:09] <zaggynl> disasm, how should I check?
[06:09] <pollyo> umop: Do you have a live CD or are you doing it on a partion that you can unmount?
[06:09] <Gankutsuou> Dimensions, `netstat -t | grep ssh`
[06:10] <etank> USMarine: ports are blocked for torrents here where i work
[06:10] <USMarine> remove .torrent
[06:10] <Angeluz> Anyone knows if there's a VMWare-Player-image for NexentaOS?
[06:10] <etank> USMarine: i am looking for a good http link
[06:10] <Davey> Did I imagine a story about a "Made for Ubuntu" piece of software? something that had been verified as working with Ubuntu and ratified as such?
[06:10] <zaggynl> disasm, 'groups' right? well that claims I'm in the group
[06:10] <Gankutsuou> etank, your location?
[06:10] <disasm> zaggynl: vi /etc/group, go to line with plugdev, look for your username, if it's not in there adduser username plugdev
[06:10] <umop> crdlb, PriceChild : thanks, damn :)
[06:10] <zaggynl> My usb case gets mounted just fine, it's just my stick that doesn't
[06:10] <etank> Gankutsuou: USA Kentucky
[06:10] <disasm> zaggynl: errr, Use an editor, not necessarily vi, just kneejerk reaction
[06:10] <kerik> USMarine: which torrent app do you use?
[06:10] <ikaruga> hi all, just wanted to know if the kernel in fiesty was fixed so that midi sequencers work (again)
[06:11] <USMarine> AZUREUS ofc
[06:11] <Dimensions> Thanks Gankutsuou
[06:11] <zaggynl> disasm, 'plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,zaggynl'
[06:11] <kerik> USMarine: azureus is a good one?
[06:11] <USMarine> da best there is out there
[06:11] <disasm> zaggynl: looks good
[06:11] <kerik> USMarine: thanks man
[06:11] <Angeluz> BitTornado. :)
[06:11] <Palantor> following links in the 7.04 announce email goes to download page with only 6.10. Has 7.04 been put on hold?
[06:11] <disasm> zaggynl: tail -f /var/log/syslog (you may need root) unplug/plug usb stick
[06:12] <KalleDK> would love to see utorrent in linux :D
[06:12] <lolman> Any BitTorrent client I use is killing my net connection on Feisty :(
[06:12] <Angeluz> Palantor: No.
[06:12] <peter78> I'm using fiesty beta, supposedly when the final release is in the repos I'll just update as usual and don't need to upgrade the distro?
[06:12] <Angeluz> Its officially released.
[06:12] <disasm> Palantor: ubuntu.com
[06:12] <mneptok> KalleDK: what's wrong with BitTornado?
[06:12] <gkelly> lolman : try turning down your max upload, or even your max download speed
[06:12] <kitche> peter78: the final release packages are iin the repo
[06:12] <disasm> Palantor: the official pages are not updated yet
[06:12] <Palantor> ok ..  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[06:13] <lolman> gkelly, any other machine on my network is perfectly fine :)
[06:13] <robinlinth> !feisty
[06:13] <robinlinth> has feisty been released? :D
[06:13] <peter78> Angeluz, ok so I've already got the packages?
[06:13] <Pici> robinlinth: yes.
[06:13] <lolman> kerik, any at all, tried Azureus, KTorrent and Gnome-bt
[06:13] <Angeluz> peter78: If there are none left in the update manager, then yes.
[06:13] <Angeluz> robinlinth: ubuntu.com
[06:13] <zaggynl> disasm, http://www.pastebin.ca/448335 <= that's the output which I get
[06:14] <tecta> isn't there a new theme for ubuntu that's purple?
[06:14] <cBau> I use BitTornado with Feisty beta.... 4 torrents at one time, 50kB upload max per file, no additional lag on my other computer running WoW, no skyrocketing pings. I prefer BitTornado over all the other clients I have used.
[06:14] <nbogdanoff> anyone else have issues with rdesktop distorting the contents of individual windows -- say if they are moved (dragged) or using the scroll on the mouse ... or say new mail comes in, the lines get all blurry and mangled.
[06:14] <robinlinth> I'll go upgrade then.
[06:14] <kneeki> !upgrade > kneeki
[06:14] <Angeluz> cBau: Yes, it's nice, but it seems to slow down your gnome-environment a lot, if you have multiple downloads.
[06:14] <Angeluz> I'm still hoping for a uTorrent-port.
[06:14] <delire> kerik: some people really like this: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/ i use btdownloadcurses however.
[06:15] <slackern> Angeluz, you could try out deluge torrent client
[06:15] <sumimasen> DCC CHAT "thisexploithasownedyouall
[06:15] <kneeki> Hmm, is it worth reformat + install new released 7.04 if you are already using beta?
[06:15] <KalleDK> mneptok.. utorrent uses 4mb ram at my computer
[06:15] <mneptok> delire: install BitTornado without the GUI
[06:15] <IdleOne> thank you nalioth
[06:15] <delire> kerik: without doubt azureus is the most famous torrent client
[06:15] <disasm> zaggynl: hmmm... appears to be something with gnomevfs then, your kernel is pulling it up fine, can you do sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/?
[06:15] <rowdog> I really like ktorrent, azureus is good but a resource hog
[06:15] <slackern> Angeluz, http://deluge-torrent.org/ they even got feisty .deb's out for the release
[06:15] <peter78> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release.gpg: Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:15] <delire> mneptok: i don't use the gui. it's all ncurses
[06:15] <mneptok> KalleDK: same to you, then. use BitTornado from the shell.
[06:15] <disasm> peter78: it's hammerd, get a different repo
[06:16] <teb> whoa it went live already?  crazy
[06:16] <Angeluz> slackern: Is it in in the repos?
[06:16] <mneptok> KalleDK: but i like the GUI feedback.
[06:16] <KalleDK> Now we're talking have looked for a cmdline
[06:16] <zaggynl> disasm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413689 <= manual mount works fine, automount doesn't
[06:16] <Angeluz> slackern: Ah, alright, thank you.
[06:16] <anku> It's in the repos now
[06:16] <KalleDK> ... have a ubuntu server ;)
[06:16] <Angeluz> I'll give it a try.
[06:16] <delire> mneptok: eg 'btdownloadcurses.bittornado file.torrent'
[06:16] <slackern> Angeluz, only an older version, they never got time to update to latest version and the one in repos blows
[06:16] <foka> is feisty out already?
[06:16] <zaggynl> wine+utorrent works fine as well
[06:16] <Pici> foka: Yes.