[12:50] <ubuntupaws> i personally feel sound cards are c......p
[12:51] <Fossilet> And I am stuck at test 5.
[12:51] <h00k> mario_: sudo do-release-upgrade <- that in a terminal
[12:51] <Joshmuffin> mario_, update-manager -d
[12:51] <vu1kan> yeah, what josh said
[12:51]  * ubutom_ thinks Joshmuffin should use a pencil, too much technology in a typewriter :P
[12:51] <h00k> !ot
[12:51]  * Joshmuffin agrees
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ddilinger:  i tend to listen with headphones 99% of the time.   I do have some 6.1 headphones. :) somewhere.
[12:51] <Joshmuffin> !ot | joshmuffin
[12:52] <Joshmuffin> Will do mr roboto
[12:52] <mario_> Joshmuffin, thanks!
[12:52] <Miiles> Hi, anyone active right now?
[12:52] <Joshmuffin> Miiles, no
[12:52] <Andrew9> Dr_Willis: i have very old crappy build and i hate running windows on that, i am using kubuntu and it is much much faster, poor audio is the only downside...
[12:52] <AAA> Dr_Willis  my point is; folks using linux 10 years ago _had_ to do funky things to make their hardware work. now, you don't, so much.
[12:52] <Fossilet> Any one can help me?
[12:52] <Joshmuffin> !anyone | Miiles
[12:52] <ubufool> wow ubustudio is much more responsive xD
[12:53] <Fossilet> !anyone
[12:53] <sunta> lol
[12:53] <ubuntupaws> thnx andrew for ur ubuntu support better run win98
[12:53] <ubuntupaws> ahhhhhhhh
[12:53] <mo> strawberries
[12:53] <ubutom_> AAA, talking about initializing, I think my dvb-t stick wasn't shut down properly in windows and doesn't work with ubuntu now, despite the fact that I diodn'T change anything and it worked for days before, but used win mediacenter to record some stuff and since then me-tv or tvtime or avlc can't get any channels, gonna boot up windows today to prove that theory :)
[12:53] <Miiles> ubufool: because I don't like to ask a question unless I'm granted..
[12:53] <vu1kan> mario_ if that doesn't work, try < update-manager --devel-release >
[12:53] <ddilinger> Miiles: its nice in theory, but doesn't work well on irc
[12:54] <ddilinger> Miles: its not like at a conference table where only one person can yell at a time :)
[12:54] <ubufool> miiles we are given permission upon entering to ask questions relateing to ubuntu
[12:54] <AAA> ubutom_  fsck.<your fs> /dev/yourdevnameX
[12:54] <sunta> Fossilet, what about your question? just ask
[12:55] <Andrew9> ubuntupaws: but i just noticed that win xp can playback 720p 7600kbsec hd quite smoothly and it makes me wanna run windows on it again..
[12:55] <Fossilet> I have asked it, sunta.
[12:55] <Joshmuffin> i think Miiles gets the idea
[12:55] <Fossilet> http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/diagnose-forwarding.phtml?cn=client&ctni=ppp0&ctnia=<IP_ADDRESS>&sn=server&stni=ppp0&stnia=<IP_ADDRESS>&seni=eth0&senia=<IP_ADDRESS>&tenia=<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:55] <ubufool> andrew maybe getting a gfx card would help?
[12:55] <Fossilet> I am stuck at test 5.
[12:55] <AAA> ubutom_  tab completion FTW!
[12:55] <ubutom_> AAA, hm, could be, but will do an fsck with grub
[12:56] <ubufool> but i did notice ubuntu severly lags the video latency settings....
[12:56]  * AAA <3 gnu-readline
[12:56] <ubufool> this can be corrected tho
[12:56] <sunta> Fossilet, had to scroll. though dont see a question. u say u are stuck
[12:56] <Joshmuffin> !women | Whyarenttheyinthekitchen
[12:56] <Miiles> But ok, I have a problem. I've just reinstalled ubuntu on my laptop and my wireless doesn't work (Like always I have to install the drivers ofc) but the problem is I don't have any internet access on it. I've downloaded the driver but it's a .rpm file and I can't seem to find any help with installing or converting the .rpm file to an .deb without an internet access. I tried to convert it on another laptop with ubuntu thru alien but i
[12:56] <Fossilet> See the link there?
[12:56] <ubufool> ahahahaha
[12:56] <ubuntupaws> which windows ur talking about
[12:56] <sunta> y
[12:56] <Fossilet> I have a pptp problem with my VPN.
[12:56] <ubuntupaws> xp or 98
[12:57] <Fossilet> sunta
[12:57] <bazhang> Joshmuffin, that is not appropriate.
[12:57] <ubufool> great idea xD^^^
[12:57] <ubuntupaws> well xp does pack a punch in general for mmedia support
[12:57] <Joshmuffin> sorry, tab completition you know
[12:57] <linxeh> has anyone got syncml working from egroupware in the repos?
[12:57] <xperia> hello to all. i have inserted new hard disks in to the free slots of the raid array in to my Computer and also added them to the existing ext4 raid array. In the BIOS Config this new disks are also a part of the exisiting array but when i boot into ubuntu i allways have the old disk size and disk usage. I dont see any new Disk Space. Sombody told me that i need to change the Partiton table...
[12:57] <xperia> ...and such things. Is this right ?
[12:57] <ubufool> yea once you unlock xp.. it does
[12:58] <Joshmuffin> Helo?
[12:58] <xperia> can sombody help me with this problem. i have new hard disk free space but i dont see it in ubuntu
[12:58] <bazhang> !guidelines > Joshmuffin
[12:58] <AAA> my linux doesn't support noatime. what do I do?
[12:58] <Fossilet> ?
[12:59] <Joshmuffin> bazhang, sorry i was only kidding around
[12:59] <bazhang> Joshmuffin, that was not funny in the slightest, and not appropriate in any Ubuntu channel.
[12:59] <Joshmuffin> I said sorry
[13:00] <smallfoot-> hey op guy
[13:00] <smallfoot-> can you remove ban from me from #ubuntu+1 ??
[13:00] <bazhang> smallfoot-, /join #ubuntu-ops
[13:00] <uwz-105> hi 2 all
[13:01] <smallfoot-> ok
[13:01] <erUSUL> smallfoot-: #ubuntu-ops
[13:01] <uwz-105> hi 2 all
[13:01] <livingdaylight> Hi, can someone help me with skype, which isn't working here
[13:01] <Miiles> Did anybody se my question?
[13:01] <vu1kan> !hi | uwz-105
[13:01] <ubufool> =c dam i hate this... i had a program called tweakd and now i can't find it...where would such things be installed? i'll have to load it from my old 8.04 install...
[13:01] <livingdaylight> I've looked under 'Options' but can't seem to tweak anything to advantage
[13:02] <erUSUL> ubufool: sudo updatedb && locate tweakd
[13:02] <uwz-105> wer hat erfahrung mit smb einstellungen wegen zugriff auf anderen rechner
[13:02] <ubuntupaws> ubufool ...........start from beginning
[13:02] <ubuntupaws> what os.....
[13:02] <ubuntupaws> what is the proble,
[13:02] <ubuntupaws> m*
[13:02] <rajeshsr_> vu1kan, there seems only a hot key, no global hot keys.
[13:03] <uwz-105> wer ist der ubunto experte hier
[13:03] <ubuntupaws> is superkaramba dead?
[13:03] <LjL> !de | uwz-105
[13:03] <vu1kan> rajeshsr_ you're in the tools>preferences>hotkeys?
[13:03] <dakota> Silly question, is there a way to have give a user an alias? Like I have a user called 'bob', and he has an alias of 'jim'. So he can either login as bob or as jim, where 'jim' will be a alias of 'bob'
[13:03] <dakota> I hope that makes sense
[13:03] <gentooxer> uwz-105: geh in den ubuntu-de channel
[13:04] <rajeshsr_> vu1kan, yes
[13:04] <vu1kan> rajeshsr_ using vlc version 1.0.6?
[13:04] <vu1kan> if not newer
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntupaws:  i think when kde4 came out with its own widgits - a lot of the desktop-gadgets lost a lot of their momentum. It may not be dead.. but i bet its not  as popular as it once was
[13:04] <rajeshsr_> vu1kan, VLC media player 0.8.6e Janus (wxWidgets interface)
[13:04] <rajeshsr_> is that what i have..
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> vlc 1.1.0 is out in the PPA's  :)
[13:05] <ubuntupaws> ya right but.....lot kde4 sstuff is only glittering but full of bugs
[13:05] <vu1kan> rajeshsr_ ah...that's your problem, i think the global hotkeys were implemented in 1.0
[13:05] <ubuntupaws> my kubuntu lucid experience was enough for me......also there are interestingly some bugs in dolphin too
[13:05] <rajeshsr_> vu1kan, oh, ok! thanks. Let me check out.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> ive had very few issues with the Latest KDE
[13:06] <ubuntupaws> when moving large files dolphin crashed....that was more than a gb of data
[13:06] <Miiles> Could someone who knows how to solve a converting .rpm to .deb och install a .rpm file in ubuntu without any internet access help me in a private chat?
[13:07] <ubuntupaws> i want stable os like gnome...although lot of eyecandy is missing
[13:07] <ubuntupaws> hope ubuntu brings some bling in future
[13:07] <dakota> never mind, I managed to figure something else out :)
[13:08] <Christopher> Is there anything like Adobe After Effects or Coldfusion for Ubuntu?
[13:08] <ubuntupaws> run them in wine
[13:08] <Christopher> What if I want FREE?
[13:08] <ubutom> AAA, as I thought, rebooted to win, shut it down normally and now it works again with linux, hehe
[13:09] <ubuntupaws> there is blender only for professionals in ubuntu in linux
[13:09] <Christopher> What does blender do exactly?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> 3d rendering
[13:09] <Jone> hi i just installed pam_fprint and it added a new network adapter called pam0 and renamed my wlan0 to eth1 how can i change this back?
[13:09] <taotetek> blender is a 3d modeling / rendering / animation program
[13:09] <Christopher> How good is it?
[13:09] <taotetek> very
[13:09] <Christopher> hmmm
[13:09] <ubuntupaws> there is no aftereffects and coldfusion... also they are old
[13:10] <ubutom> Christopher, depends very much on the user I guess
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Christopher:  no idea. :) it takes some learning
[13:10] <zhoujilong> 大家好。
[13:10] <ubuntupaws> now its FLEX time dude
[13:10] <taotetek> Christopher, http://www.blender.org/
[13:10] <livingdaylight> kann mir jemand helfen?
[13:10] <vu1kan> !cn | zhoujilong
[13:10] <Pici> !de | livingdaylight
[13:10] <zhoujilong> 有没有美国的朋友。
[13:10] <ubuntupaws> dobe flex does lot and mono is one project related to creating web stuff
[13:10] <bazhang> livingdaylight, in #ubuntu-de
[13:10] <taotetek> Christopher, http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/
[13:10] <bazhang> zhoujilong, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:10] <taotetek> Christopher, it's very powerful.  it has a rather steep learning curve, however.
[13:11] <livingdaylight> Pici: sorry, I don't speak german, what do you say?
[13:11] <Christopher> Thanks guys
[13:11] <Muzer> Bit of a problem - after updating my sound drivers to backports in order to fix a problem with snd-hda-intel, my TV card (PCI ID 1131:7133) now no longer gets noticed as a sound card
[13:11] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with skype which isn't working under ubuntu10.4
[13:11] <AAA> ubutom  your modules aren't loading properly then
[13:11] <Christopher> I picked up GIMP okay and love it.
[13:12] <ubutom> AAA, or is there a way to force a hardware-reset?
[13:12] <j800r> is there any command i can use to remove all kde packages in one go. sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop left practically everything behind :|
[13:12] <livingdaylight> Pici: yea, funny how one ask a million times a question and get ignored; say something in another language and suddenly half a dozen people are doing the !de thing
[13:12] <Christopher> It runs faster and anything complex is almost always faster.  Photoshop is SLOW
[13:12] <LjL> !puregnome | j800r
[13:12] <Muzer> hmm
[13:12]  * LjL blinks
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> j800r:  thats because that is a 'meta-package'
[13:12] <Muzer> modprobe'ing it manually gets:
[13:12] <Muzer> FATAL: Error inserting saa7134_alsa (/lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[13:12] <vu1kan> i always wonder if the ppl that aren't using a latin based character set are just cursing or what...is there some way to add translation to ubuntu?
[13:13] <livingdaylight> Pici: people love using the !command, eh?
[13:13] <AAA> ubottu  check the i2c-* commands
[13:13] <LjL> !puregnome
[13:13] <Christopher> !ubottuisaweirdo
[13:13] <Pici> LjL: That factoid was removed, the instructions were not working as intended.
[13:13] <Muzer> evidently someone forgot to update that as well as all the other sound drivers when they uploaded the backports
[13:13] <Christopher> Noone likes bots
[13:13] <abetterswordfish> I need some help cleaning up some old kernals so they don't show up in my burg
[13:14] <Christopher> What is a good program like Quicken for Ubuntu?
[13:14] <AAA> ubottu  I have no idea what I'm taling about. i need sleep
[13:14] <Muzer> that's a bug in the package itself - where would I report it?
[13:14] <ubutom> livingdaylight, this channel'S language is english, so everyone speaking something different will be directed to an according server, nothing wrong with that, is there?
[13:14] <j800r> so i'm gonna have to remove each package separately?
[13:15] <j800r> *sigh* ..this is gonna take a while
[13:15] <Muzer> OK, so, how would I go about fixing that? I've tried compiling single modules from the Ubuntu kernel in the past and always failed
[13:15] <smallfoot-> my friend on Windows have VLC 1.1 and Nvidia 256 drivers, but in Ubuntu you never have latest software, you only have old outdated software.
[13:15] <ubutom> AAA, ok, read it, i2c, will look into that :)
[13:15] <AAA> apt-get install last-beer
[13:15] <lucas-arg> hey guys, im getting an error saying something about ramzswap cant load this is my dmesg line... http://paste.ubuntu.com/454421/
[13:15] <bazhang> smallfoot-, stay on topic please
[13:15] <ubufool> i found all kinda diffrent tweaks but not what i'm looking for...can't even find it easily in google...i get a mess with that...it is software that lets you edit things like pci latency..what i want to change is my video latency...
[13:15] <ubufool> ??^^
[13:15] <Muzer> argh, this sucks so much!
[13:15] <lucas-arg> can someone help me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/454421/
[13:16] <bastid_raZor> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome   j800r .. if this is still valid?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Gee I have vlc 1.1 and the latest nvidia drivers...   on my ubuntu box..
[13:16] <AAA> ubottu  i2c is the 2 wire bus that monitors most modern computers. it is a a simple bus that just reports that facts
[13:17] <Muzer> hmm - so to fix an ALSA bug that's existed for a year you must break some other ALSA driver because someone forgot to include it in the backports package...
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> AAA:  why are you talking to the channel robot?
[13:17] <AAA> Dr_Willis  because I should be sleeping, I guess
[13:17] <Christopher> Is there a program like quicken for Ubuntu?
[13:17] <Zen> anybody know how to fix ubuntu 10.04 when it locks up on boot, and if you go to recovery console from the grub loader, it loads, but theres no keyboard?
[13:18] <LjL> j800r, bastid_raZor: it appears that those "puregnome" instructions actually risk making your system malfunction. i would suggest removing the "kdelibs5" package instead, since as far as i know that shouldn't cause any problems, but no guarrantees.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Christopher:  i recall some check books apps in the repos. use the package manager and search.
[13:18] <erUSUL> Christopher: gnucash
[13:18] <erUSUL> !info gnucash
[13:18] <loewi>  Christopher: gnucash
[13:18] <Christopher> Thanks
[13:18] <ubufool> what would enableing nice do in ubuntu studio controls?
[13:18] <j800r> LjL, eek...too late. if my system messes up i'll just reinstall. not the end of the world
[13:19] <j800r> i keep all my files on an external hd
[13:19] <LjL> j800r: sorry, i only found out now while inquiring why the !puregnome factoid wasn't there anymore.
[13:20] <ubutom> AAA, yeah, well, I suspected the stick wasn't correctly shut down and so it was it seems, I recall that that can also happen to pci-cards or modems
[13:20] <smallfoot-> why i get sata errors on my disk if my cd drive is plugged in?
[13:20] <doyle> Q: Is running 'make install' as sudo recommended? Why?
[13:20] <j800r> lol, no big. if i had a penny for every time i've reinstalled for one reason or another i'd be a trillionaire
[13:20] <Zen> anybody know how to fix ubuntu 10.04 when it locks up on boot, and if you go to recovery console from the grub loader, it loads, but theres no keyboard?
[13:20] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, I think because my name is too similar
[13:20] <erUSUL> smallfoot-: the disk is sata and the cd drive too ? both pata ? one sata the other (cd) pata?
[13:20] <LjL> doyle: well, "make install" generally must be run as root, or it won't be able to put files in place, unless you instructed 'configure' to use a directory inside your home
[13:20] <smallfoot-> erUSUL, both are SATA
[13:21] <LjL> doyle: you may want to consider using "checkinstall" instead though, which tracks which files were installed and creates a removable deb package
[13:21] <doyle> LjL: yea, I defined a install prefix inside my home dir
[13:21] <LjL> doyle: then running it as root shouldn't be necessary, i believe
[13:21] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with skype on Ubuntu 10.4 ?
[13:22] <j800r> livingdaylight, you can install it from the repos
[13:22] <vu1kan> livingdaylight what is your issue, specifically?
[13:22] <livingdaylight> vulkan, the test call shows that I only have audio and no mike
[13:23] <lucas-arg> FATAL: Error inserting ramzswap (/lib/modules/2.6.35-5-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/ramzswap/ramzswap.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) -- any ideas?
[13:23] <vu1kan> livingdaylight does your mic work in other applications?
[13:23] <doyle> LjL: Got an error 1, it couldn't create a folder. Running sudo
[13:23] <vu1kan> i have a perfectly working install of skype under 10.04, all i did was dl the package from skype.com
[13:23] <livingdaylight> vulkan good question
[13:24] <j800r> vu1kan, you don't need to. it's in the repos
[13:24] <livingdaylight> where /how do I ensure that my mike in 'on' ?
[13:24] <j800r> enable the lucid partner repos and install via apt-get
[13:24] <LjL> doyle: weird. you didn't run "make" as root, did you?
[13:24] <vu1kan> livingdaylight go into your sound prefs, there should be a tab for recording
[13:25] <livingdaylight> grrr.... sound preference from panel used to be handier than in 10.4
[13:26] <j800r> livingdaylight, i've found the sound prefs to be easier in 10.04 :\
[13:26] <j800r> must just be me
[13:26] <vu1kan> livingdaylight sorry i misspoke, the tab i was thinking of was 'input'
[13:27] <doyle> LjL: nope, no root used from cmake to make, Make install just isn't going. Even with sudo I get back error 1... file INSTALL cannot find "/home/doyle/koffice/lib/libkdchart.so.7.0.0".
[13:27] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: ahhh... it was muted...
[13:27] <vu1kan> j800r i dled the .deb because i hadn't enabled the partner repos
[13:27] <j800r> why not
[13:27] <j800r> simple enough to do and it's plenty safe
[13:27] <mijk> morning
[13:27] <vu1kan> didn't know how at the time
[13:27] <LjL> doyle: what is it you're compiling?
[13:27] <j800r> ahhh
[13:27] <vu1kan> i figured it out since then
[13:28] <j800r> well i still recommend using the repos version. i'd be better supported :P (updates etc)
[13:28] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: you genius!
[13:28] <doyle> LjL: koffice 2.2
[13:28] <vu1kan> ...it's the same version...
[13:28]  * livingdaylight gotz his skype running now - whoopa di doo Dey!
[13:28] <mijk> I've set up auto login on my Ubuntu Karmic and an app I set up to start on startup doesn't want to load
[13:28] <vu1kan> livingdaylight ...not really, just a geek amongst all the corn...glad to help :)
[13:29] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: you Star! I could've spent weeks hating Ubuntu... now I iz the happy bunny again
[13:29] <OpenSourcedNick> in bash, can I write dir = /var/www/ and then use a command with $dir ?
[13:29] <LjL> doyle: uhm you do know you can get koffice 2.2 from the backport repo in lucid?
[13:30] <vu1kan> livingdaylight always approach a problem from the ground up, start with the simple fix then move on to the more complex stuff
[13:30] <xtipobancaCA> #gaysardegna
[13:30] <doyle> LjL: it's a lie! A LIE! Couldn't get 2.1.2... just assumed Ubuntu didn't like new versions of Koffice
[13:30] <LjL> doyle :o
[13:30] <nmvictor_> what happened to just sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk?
[13:31] <LjL> nmvictor_: it's probably moved to the Partner repository like the jvm
[13:31] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: yea, because there have been skype issues running in Ubuntu in the past I was pre-conditioned to expect misshap... Before there were other things one had to do to eventually get it to work, so, didn't even think of mike. Why is it muted by default though, in the first place?
[13:31] <vu1kan> ...and never blame the machine, more often than not the problem exists between the chair and the keyboard...the IT guy at my work loves saying that
[13:32] <noric> good morning #ubuntu!!  now for a gnome/compiz/metacity question:  I would like to bind a hotkey that causes the first window of a specific class to be focused.  I.e. I want a hotkey to auto-focus emacs, I am sick of alt-tabbing.
[13:32] <vu1kan> livingdaylight i suspect it's to prevent a feedback loop when using speakers
[13:32] <doyle> LjL: there's no 2.2 even with the backport repos enabled
[13:32] <Phoksgeer> nmvictor_: Suns Java has been moved to the partner repositories. You can get it back by enabling the partner repositories en System > Administrate > Software Sources.
[13:32] <noric> I can't find any 'direct focus' hotkey in compiz
[13:33] <vdfg> Q: How can i prevent NFS kernel deamon from freezing my bootup?
[13:33] <LjL> doyle: i see. well, the kubuntu.org site says there is, i just went by that.
[13:33] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: is that what is going to happen now unless I re-mute my mike after using it? Should one always do this after one is done?
[13:34] <ubufool8> if i mounted an old install of ubuntu..will the filesystem use it's swap file too??
[13:34] <vu1kan> livingdaylight i think the mic is only 'on' when a program tells it to be, i play music at insane volumes and i've never had it happen-and i've never had to unmute the mic when i wanna skype someone
[13:34] <noric> livingdaylight, I have a really good setup for Gnome/Skype.  It took me awhile to get there, until I discovered padevchooser.
[13:34] <vu1kan> i did have to unmute the mic right after install tho
[13:35] <doyle> LjL: Ah, ok. I'm in Ubuntu
[13:35] <nmvictor_> thanks guys
[13:35] <noric> livingdaylight, padevchooser is a very poorly named package, but essentially it allows you to permanently select an audio device for each application
[13:35] <LjL> doyle: well, there's no difference, it's the same repositories for both.
[13:35] <noric> livingdaylight, my skype automatically uses my USB headset for calls, and all other audio comes out of my regular desktop speakers
[13:35] <vu1kan> noric ooo...that sounds handy
[13:35] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: yea, just don't get why mike is muted by default. Most people wont think to check their mike and will think skype or whatever is not working
[13:35] <ubufool8> apparantly yes??
[13:36] <noric> livingdaylight, I accomplished this by installing padevchooser, setting it to "run on startup", and opening the "Volume Control" tab
[13:36] <livingdaylight> noric: so, your install did not have mike automatically muted by default? because regardless of usb-headset or not you will need mike 'on'
[13:36] <noric> vu1kan, ya it is very handy : - P.  If girlfriend goes to sleep or whatever, can swap movie from speakers to headest
[13:36] <vdfg> sooo any ideas? ive googled the problem and nothin there worked :\
[13:36] <livingdaylight> padevchooser?
[13:36] <noric> livingdaylight, actually it did have it automatically muted.  The default audio input device was my "regular mic", that you plug into pink jack.
[13:36] <noric> padevchooser
[13:37] <vu1kan> !info padevchooser
[13:37] <livingdaylight> noric: yea
[13:37] <l0xar> question: i have a 26" viewsonic monitor that is being detected as a 25" monitor with the program called 'Monitor Perference'. this is causing the 1920x1200 resolution to not display properly and other resultions are shakey as if the refresh rate is wrong. are there any recommendations?
[13:37] <LjL> doyle: the pacakges must have been pulled or something. it seems they *were* there at some point, judging from google. /me investigates
[13:37] <doyle> LjL:  strange... Almost got this build though.
[13:37] <doyle> Thanks
[13:37] <Zahrada> Hello, wich one of you may I bother and bore for some help on installing Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:37] <noric> padevchooser can be a bit tricky.  Particularly, the most useful part, I found, is to select the audio sink (i.e. playback device) that each application uses, at runtime
[13:37] <livingdaylight> noric: | vu1kan sounds like I want to install padevchooser?
[13:37] <noric> yes
[13:37] <vu1kan> l0xar check your xorg.conf to see if it has your desired modes listed
[13:37] <noric> Check out  Volume Control -> Playback tab
[13:37] <noric> you will be able to select the audio device for each app
[13:38] <livingdaylight> is padevchooser something I need to launch or will it integrate into my Ubuntu os?
[13:38] <noric> absoutely everything that plays audio is registered there; youtube, games, skype, etc
[13:38] <l0xar> vu1kan: where is the file located?
[13:38] <noric> livingdaylight, integrate.
[13:38] <noric> livingdaylight, but you need to set it to auto-launch in preferences
[13:38] <vu1kan> l0xar /etc/X11/xorg.conf(note that is an uppercase X)
[13:38] <noric> livingdaylight, once you select an audio device for an application, padevchooser remembers that
[13:39] <l0xar> vu1kan: thank you!
[13:39] <noric> livingdaylight, it is pretty smart.  for example, the Skype startup sound comes out of my regular speakers.  But, during calls, input and output goes through my headset
[13:39] <livingdaylight> noric: kewl
[13:39] <vu1kan> l0xar if your desired mode isn't listed i'd suggest searching ubuntuforums.org, there's a pretty good howto over there on getting it set up
[13:39] <noric> the other cool thing you can do, more advanced, is set up a 'virtual sink' which will output audio to all devices simultaneously
[13:40] <noric> which can be cool if you're some kind of audio/linux nerd
[13:40] <l0xar> vu1kan: i am running 10.04 and that folder structure does not exist.  i have no X11 folder...
[13:40] <nmvictor_> why sudo mv ~/ubuntu-repos/sun-java6-* ~/partner-repos ?
[13:40] <noric> so uh.... anyone have any idea how I can   C-S-e  -> focus emacs
[13:40] <noric> I'm looking for a new plugin for compiz, or some other way, to cause a hotkey to auto-focus an existing emacs session
[13:40] <noric> (by window Class, most likely)
[13:42] <vu1kan> l0xar open a terminal and input <gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf> with out the <>, of course
[13:42] <vu1kan> that will open the file in read-only, so you can look without making changes
[13:43] <Zahrada> I've been trying to install Ubuntu. I got the alternate CD as I read online that it would be easier to get my RAID 0 working there. Well, the installer doesn't see those disks. It's a gigabyte ga-ma790fxt-ud5p motherboard with the southbridge as the RAID controller. Any ideas?
[13:43] <l0xar> vu1kan: the file has no text and in the X11 folder there is no 'xorg.conf' file.
[13:43] <vu1kan> noric have you tried setting up a custom keyboard shortcut?
[13:43] <noric> vu1kan, in gconf-editor ?
[13:43] <noric> (no )
[13:44] <vu1kan> noric in system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts
[13:44] <vu1kan> i'm not sure how you would set it for one specific window tho
[13:44] <ubufool> nooo mchystal is resigned!
[13:44] <noric> let me check it out
[13:45] <LjL> doyle: by the way, i assume you have run "sudo apt-get update" after enabling backports...? i have someone telling me koffice 2.2. *should* be there, despite what packages.ubuntu.com says
[13:46] <Pici> LjL, doyle: Yes, its in Lucid's backports: koffice | 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1 | lucid-backports/universe
[13:46] <vu1kan> l0xar weird...i know that the xorg.conf file is pretty much unused in 10.04, but i've been using it to force my display into 1024x768
[13:46] <LjL> Pici: did you just grep a sqlite package listing? :P
[13:46] <noric> yeah, keyboard shortcuts won't do it
[13:46] <noric> unless I write a script to focus my preferred window
[13:46] <noric> the correct solution is a new or existing compiz plugin
[13:46] <LjL> Pici: "grep" as a generic verb for "to search", that is.
[13:47] <l0xar> vu1kan: its been a while, how to i kick off the config to run through the script for xconfig to make the file?
[13:47] <vu1kan> l0xar i have no idea...i'm still pretty noobish, learning as i go, maybe there's a howto somewhere...i'll google it...
[13:48] <Zahrada> if anyone has an idea, let me know.
[13:48] <vu1kan> noric i'm running a voodoo 3 for my graphics...couldn't use compiz to save it's life
[13:49] <noric> heh, why not?
[13:49] <noric> lol
[13:49] <noric> old? new?
[13:49] <l0xar> vu1kan: i think this is my issue; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:49] <l0xar> let me run through this and see...
[13:51] <vu1kan> l0xar have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution that might get what you want done
[13:51] <pelmen> guys, when i switch to tty2 (alt+ctrl+f2) I am only able to see top 2 lines of the console. Basically the whole imgage, screen is not in the center of my lcd, but at the bottom, and I am only seeing top 2 lines. Changing resolution from 640x480 in grub.cfg to higher numbers, only worsen it and now I see absolutely nothing...
[13:51] <pelmen> any ideas ?
[13:51] <vu1kan> noric 16mb o' vram
[13:51] <noric> vu1kan, progress! apparently wmcntrl allows you to access window manager from cmd line
[13:51] <vu1kan> nifty
[13:51] <kvazebra> .дшые
[13:51] <LjL> pelmen: ehm, have you tried running your monitor's autoconfig?
[13:52] <pelmen> LjL: but, when I am in graphical console, everything is perfect.
[13:53] <LjL> pelmen: well, but it's likely a different screenmode
[13:53] <pelmen> LjL: also when it boots, I can see console absolutely finr
[13:53] <pelmen> hmm
[13:53] <LjL> hmm
[13:53] <Pici> LjL: No, I used rmadison.  Its in the devscripts package in Ubuntu.  Or use it via the web at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi
[13:53] <noric> behold, emacs!! wmctrl -l | grep emacs | cut -f1 -d " "
[13:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:54] <TaliaPhoenix> morn Bl
[13:55] <TaliaPhoenix> BluesKaj*
[13:55] <TaliaPhoenix> darned autocomplete
[13:55] <BluesKaj> hi TaliaPhoenix :)
[13:56] <vu1kan> yipe...that's a shortcut imma turn off...
[13:56] <ubufool> ah lets try tremolus in ubuntustudio hehe
[13:57] <noric> wmctrl -a emacs
[13:57] <noric> behold!!
[13:57] <noric> I can.. select emacs!!
[13:57] <noric> these #ubuntu sessions are always so invigorating  : - D
[13:59] <vu1kan> i learned more idling in this channel for four hours than i did in 3 months of using 8.04
[14:00] <clcto|work> vu1kan: nice, thats cause you don't need to learn to use ubuntu, which can be good
[14:02] <knxville> Do anyone know where I can change my skype tray icon?
[14:02] <vu1kan> knxville i think you'd have to recompile it to do that, but i'm not sure
[14:03] <knxville> Argh.. uger
[14:03] <knxville> bugger
[14:03] <Zeus^^> Hi ppl,  I need to copy some files from ntfs drive to my usb external disk on ubuntu live but usb disk mounted read-only  I also tryed to mount manually with rw but no luck  any clue ?
[14:03] <hoare> guys can I manually boot WUBI installation from GRUB?
[14:03] <lxsys> knxville: there may be an image hiding somewhere that it uses
[14:03] <Ddorda> is there a way to chat by blutooth?
[14:03] <ohir> Zeus^^: you have dirty ntfs system on that disk
[14:04] <knxville> lxsys: i've been looking under pixmaps and so on under /usr/share... Couldnt find any :(
[14:04] <hoare> any grub-ers here?
[14:04] <Zeus^^> ohir, usb disk is fat32
[14:04] <clcto|work> !ask | hoare
[14:04] <hoare> can I manually boot WUBI installation from GRUB?
[14:04] <hoare> clcto|work: already asked
[14:04] <ohir> Zeus^^: man ntfs-3g;  man ntfs-3g.probe
[14:04] <knxville> Anyone know how to change Konversation Tray icon then? :)
[14:04] <toader> Hi, I change my account type to "Administrator" with carelessness? but now I cannot change it back? is  administrator the root? thanks! Could anybody help me to change it back?  http://imagebin.ca/img/77X4SdGW.png
[14:04] <rek> hi do i need to shoutdown ppp to use a terminal emulator.. minicom to issue commands (if for an ipaq connected)
[14:05] <clcto|work> hoare: probably not ... that needs windows to work i belive
[14:05] <rek> how can i write commands in minicom....
[14:05] <Zeus^^> ohir, I can access ntfs partition without prblem the prblem is Usb-disk is fat32 and only mounted read-only mode cant copy something in
[14:05] <zkriesse> knxville: join #kubuntu
[14:05] <ohir> Zeus^^: if fat32 so it may have bad partition table. Look at /var/log/messages for the clue
[14:05] <knxville> zkriesse: ty
[14:05] <lxsys> does anybody know how I can get lynx to work properly at a "The Cloud" wifi hotspot without having to fire up X11 and firefox?
[14:06] <vu1kan> clcto|work wubi just lets you install ubuntu from within windows, without having to do the partitioning
[14:06] <vu1kan> i think
[14:06] <toader> Hi, could anybody help me http://imagebin.ca/img/77X4SdGW.png
[14:06] <hoare> clcto|work: it does not. it has disk file,vmlinuz and initrd
[14:06] <clcto|work> Zeus^^: what command did you use to manually mount it?
[14:06] <hoare> however I could not boot
[14:06] <Zeus^^> ohir, no there is no prblem in the disk when I first try I can copy files but now i cant I dunno why..I tryed auto mount and manual mount no luck
[14:06] <clcto|work> hoare: oh sorry then
[14:06] <vu1kan> hoare if you add the proper line to your menu.lst you should be able to
[14:06] <clcto|work> !errors
[14:07] <clcto|work> Zeus^^: what command did you use to manually mount it?
[14:07] <shashwatpns> How to add grub2 menuentry?
[14:07] <vu1kan> !grub2
[14:07] <Zeus^^> clctowork,  mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usb -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[14:08] <clcto|work> Zeus^^: hmm, that should work. try adding a gid=100 at the end of the options. others have had similar problems with the live cd
[14:09] <ohir> Zeus^^: look for errors in /var/log/messages. If partition table was good and disk was workable at other pc you may have problems with usb cable or usb controller at this box. Ie it can not give enough current to the disk
[14:09] <Zeus^^> clcto,  yea it should work but live system stick to read-only mode
[14:09] <hoare> vu1kan: it is not about menu.lst. I want to manually boot it on grub commandline
[14:09] <jmestrada> Hi... I can't access to Windows 7 shared folder from Ubuntu 10.04, system is asking me for a username and password to browse the Windows share but any of the valid users/pass I'm typing are working - it's a WORKGROUP, not a DOMAIN, any suggestion?
[14:09] <vu1kan> hoare that's a bit beyond my depth, sorry
[14:09] <hoare> vu1kan: np.
[14:09] <shashwatpns> how can I add a menu entry in grub
[14:10] <jmestrada> I can see all shares on Ubuntu, but can't access the Windows ones
[14:10] <toader> Hi, I change my account type to "Administrator" with carelessness? but now I cannot change it back? is  administrator the root? thanks! Could anybody help me to change it back?  http://imagebin.ca/img/77X4SdGW.png
[14:10] <rek> hei
[14:10] <vu1kan> shashwatpns i use startup-manager to edit my grub
[14:10] <vu1kan> !info startup-manager
[14:10] <vu1kan> yes it does...weird...
[14:10] <clcto|work> hoare: add it to menu.lst then you can see/memorize the commands and put them in at grub cmd line
[14:11] <FOREvERz> toader: why do you speak on english?
[14:11] <hoare> clcto|work: I have grub4dos installed. now I'm on grub commandline and I want to learn how to boot it from grub cLine
[14:11] <clcto|work> jmestrada: they need to be mounted
[14:11] <vu1kan> !info startupmanager
[14:12] <shashwatpns> vulkan : startupmanager is not working it is showing only 2 tabs nowhere to add a menu entry
[14:12] <clcto|work> hoare: you just enter the commands you would in the menu.lst
[14:12] <FOREvERz> if you can;s speak on russian we can try speak on #ubuntu
[14:12] <remu> hey folks. was wondering, is there a way to remote into a running X session? Like a linux RDP?
[14:12] <FOREvERz> can't*
[14:12] <clcto|work> hoare: go into windows and figure them out then go back
[14:12] <FOREvERz> ooops
[14:12] <ohir> toader: no, Administrator is not root. Administrator is user in adm group
[14:12] <hoare> clcto|work: where is that menu.lst? in c:\ ?
[14:12] <FOREvERz> sorry :(
[14:12] <FOREvERz> i'm stupid)
[14:13] <pelmen> guys, when i switch to tty2 (alt+ctrl+f2) I am only able to see top 2 lines of the console. Basically the whole imgage, screen is not in the center of my lcd, but at the bottom, and I am only seeing top 2 lines. Changing resolution from 640x480 in grub.cfg to higher numbers, only worsen it and now I see absolutely nothing...
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> remu:  gnome has a feature  that lets you do that using vnc. OR you can set up  the x11vncserver (i think)
[14:13] <jmestrada> clcto: yes, you're probably right, but before mounting the share, Ubuntu needs to get access to the share, which is not happening, that's the problem
[14:13] <Zeus^^> clcto,  gid=100 also dont work any other tip ?
[14:13] <jmestrada> clcto: Windows is not allowing the access from Ubuntu, no matter which username I use
[14:13] <clcto|work> Zeus^^: don't use the ubuntu live cd for that. it is slow bloated and not needed would be my only other tip.
[14:14] <ohir> toader: check Desktop user and OK
[14:14] <clcto|work> jmestrada: ntfs or fat?
[14:14] <jmestrada> clcto: NTFS
[14:14] <hoare> clcto|work: do you have wubi installed? I do not have menu.lst in c:\
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> clcto: uid/gid of 1000 I think is the default initial user. not 100
[14:14] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to check an encrypted home directory for errors?
[14:15] <coolstacy> hello to all.
[14:15] <clcto|work> hoare: no. it wouldnt be in c. it would be on the linux partition. look on google
[14:15] <Zeus^^> clcto,  what do u recommend?  we`ve crashed vista system need to copy files to usb disk
[14:15] <jmestrada> clcto: I think there's something else that has to be done in Windows, regarding users and groups, but not sure what is it?
[14:16] <clcto|work> jmestrada: ive never had to do that ... i assume you have ntfs3g
[14:17] <coolstacy> i am new to ubuntu can anyone tell me whats the differece between terminal commands and bash commands.[ i hope my question make sense].
[14:17] <Zeus^^> clcto,   hirens boot cd..etc also dont work for usb disk...
[14:17] <jmestrada> clcto: how do you currently work in a WORKGROUP with shares in both Ubuntu and Win 7? I may try to do it like that
[14:17] <TaliaPhoenix> coolstacy, I may be wrong, but I dont think there is?
[14:18] <TaliaPhoenix> if I am, someone will correct me
[14:18] <jmestrada> clcto: did u set a WG in Win? right?
[14:18] <coolstacy> taliaPhoenix:Can u plz explain me .
[14:19] <jmestrada> clcto: and then set a Samba share in Ubuntu, correct?
[14:19] <tucemiux> coolstacy, unless youre are not using the bash shell, they're basically the same,  the bash is just a shell, you have a terminal -- like a window GUI and on it you have the bash shell, you input commands on the "terminal" GUI window and the bash shell executes them
[14:19] <clcto|work> jmestrada: no i just accessed it
[14:20] <clcto|work> jmestrada: mounted and there was my c
[14:20] <jmestrada> clcto: both Win WG and Ubuntu Samba shared are the same name
[14:20] <isolat3dsh33p> !test
[14:21] <coolstacy> tucemiux: so u mean bash commands are different from the basic terminal commands where we use sudo.
[14:21] <jmestrada> clcto: ok, I understand, would you help to do it that way?
[14:21] <tleuser> nn
[14:22] <tucemiux> coolstacy,  no, the terminal is what you see, the bash shell is what executes the commands and shows you the result on the terminal, to do anything you have to get onto the terminal first, you could also use bourne shell instead of bash, there's a few others
[14:23] <ohir> nice evening spaam
[14:23] <hoare> clcto|work: do you have wubi installed? I do not have menu.lst in c:\
[14:23] <clcto|work> hoare: no. it wouldnt be in c. it would be on the linux partition. look on google
[14:23] <hoare> oh. is it in root.disk?
[14:23] <Agakonna> Hello
[14:24] <coolstacy> tucemiux: i am a bit confused, its like i have to start from ABC.
[14:24] <Agakonna> Ubuntu is very nice OS.
[14:24] <|backZSpwn|> hi all
[14:24] <jmestrada> clcto: if you know a URL where I can find the info, pls, send it
[14:24] <tucemiux> coolbhavi, what clilent are you using to chat?
[14:25] <tucemiux> coolstacy, what client are you using to chat?
[14:25] <tucemiux> coolbhavi, never mind
[14:25] <coolbhavi> tucemiux, xchat why?
[14:25] <TaliaPhoenix> coolbhavi, there was an issue with autocomplete :P
[14:25] <tucemiux> coolbhavi, never mind, the message is with autocomplete
[14:26] <tucemiux> coolbhavi, the **issue** is with autocomplete, meaning that question wasnt for you
[14:26] <|backZSpwn|> can anyone tell me how to stop xserver  in ubuntu 10.04? i no need start xserver ,, becouse pc is small server with small RAM /256MB-
[14:26] <|backZSpwn|> ?
[14:26] <|backZSpwn|> sry for my poor english
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> |backZSpwn|:  disablle gdm via the /etc/init/gdm.conf file. rename it or move it
[14:26] <tucemiux> |backZSpwn|,  install ubuntu server on your machine
[14:26] <coolstacy> tucemiux: i dont know but if i am right i am using empathy, channel #ubuntu.
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> |backZSpwn|:  sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.DONTSTART
[14:27] <Agakonna> Thanks! I will delete it too!
[14:27] <rumbert> Best ways to generate PDFs from modern HTML+CSS? OpenOffice does not work for me.
[14:27] <|backZSpwn|> Dr_Willis: thx i try it:D i have lubuntu :D
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> |backZSpwn|:  ask in #lubuntu  they may not use gdm.
[14:28] <|backZSpwn|> yes  lubuntu use xldm or something that..
[14:28] <|backZSpwn|> i look for xlmd configs
[14:29] <tucemiux> coolstacy, empathy is like bash, it is the application itself,  what you see is the GUI, like the terminal,   you use the "terminal" to type commands or the GUI in empathy,  in your chat application what happens in the background is taken care by empathy, the same with bash, the bash takes care of the command, similarly you can chat using another, instead of evolution you can use xchat, and instead of bash you can use bourne shell
[14:30] <lefantomedlopera> Hello, What happen? http://nsa15.casimages.com/img/2010/06/24/100624031455653731.png
[14:31] <lefantomedlopera> I had the warming by opening the disk utility palimpsest
[14:31] <lefantomedlopera> since it isn't automatic, How to disable automatic disk wake up?
[14:32] <tucemiux> ummm... i cant understand none of that stuff, its all in french
[14:32] <malikeye|123> for some reason I just lost my wlan0 :(
[14:32] <coolstacy> tucemiux: ya this one i got it thanks for that, it means everything that runs behind ur pc is done by bash or in other words bash is responsible, am i right.
[14:33] <malikeye|123> I had KVM and vmware installed, but removed both.... still no wlan
[14:33] <tucemiux> coolstacy, precisely, regardless you always use a terminal -- you can choose whatever shell you want
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:   theres really not a differance btween  the 'shell' and the 'gui'  in linux. the gui apps are still apps. they just happen to have a gui that uses X to display them.  :)
[14:33] <TheExplorer> Hello, does anyone speak script? I need to know how to say (command) && (regardless of success or failure) *go to* next command && (if keyword ____ = true then >) (if false then >) etc, anyone send me to a book?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  if you are looking for alternative 'shells' you may want to check out 'fish' it has some neat features
[14:34] <tucemiux> Dr_Willis, he wants to know the difference between terminal and the shell
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> !abs | TheExplorer
[14:34] <Pici> TheExplorer: If you're looking for a channel to ask in, #bash would be the best place.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> tucemiux:  show him a 'serial' terminal from years back :)  the 'terminal' application emulates that physical device. heh.
[14:34] <TheExplorer> thankyou Dr_Willis
[14:34] <Gwar> Hi Guys. I have put a script in etc/init.d and made a syslink to it in rc2.d and prefixed it with S71. Do I need to run anything to update something or will it work fine just as is?
[14:34] <coolstacy> tucemiux: do u know any nice tutorial for beginners for terminal commands.
[14:34] <malikeye|123> it sees the wireless controller, but there is nothing under ifconfig -a... nothing in the interfaces file.. wondering if there should be a definition there or something
[14:35] <TheExplorer> one more thing, Im trying to run Starcraft 2 and my screen went bonkers after loading. This a common ATI HD 4200 thing?
[14:35] <jmestrada> Hello again, I'm trying to access a Win 7 shared folder from Ubuntu Places > Network, but can't access it, Ubuntu keeps asking me for a user/password for accesing the Win 7 shared folder - Ubuntu 10.04 and Win 7 Ultimate, WORKGROUP
[14:35] <coolstacy> Dr_Willis: What is shell?
[14:36] <jmestrada> Someone else in here recommended me to mount the share, first, but I'm not specific a genius in Linux, so I'm not quite sure how to do that in a terminal
[14:36] <tucemiux> coolstacy, maybe Dr_Willis knows, the way I learned the commands is through tasks,  every time I had to do a task I had to learn the commands, like how to automatically mount a second hard drive, I searched, learned the commands and took notes, eventually I remembered the commands
[14:36] <Gwar> jmestrada, make sure you have turned off the password in windows 7
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  'bash,csh, dash, tsh'  the program taht handles you entering command lines
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> !shell | coolstacy
[14:36] <Gwar> Hi Guys. I have put a script in etc/init.d and made a syslink to it in rc2.d and prefixed it with S71. Do I need to run anything to update something or will it work fine just as is?
[14:36] <tucemiux> coolstacy, I also used this channel, instead of searching I just came in and asked what command would do whatever task, someone always helped me
[14:36] <jmestrada> Gwar: do you mean turning off all passwords for all usernames?
[14:36] <drizzt_> !dock
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  theres 10000's of bash help web sites and guides out there.
[14:37] <malikeye|123> wonder if wicd hosed it up
[14:38] <Gwar> jmestrada, when you go into the network settings for the shared folders, you have to disable password protected sharing. It's been ages since I used W7, so I can't remember the exact way to do it :9
[14:39] <coolstacy> Dr_Willis: i know there are but i what to know from experience person how did they started it, and which one they would recommend for beginners.
[14:39] <jmestrada> Gwar, ok, you mean to disable password protected for the specific shared folders... I will check it out
[14:40] <jmestrada> Gwar, thanks
[14:40] <Gwar> jmestrada, did it work?
[14:40] <tcl> hello
[14:40] <Agakonna> hi
[14:40] <jmestrada> Gwar, working on it
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  go read bash guides.. pick one any one.. move to next... keep going... when using bash.. refer back to guides.. theres no magical  doc to learn all the stuff at one time
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  google for some 'bash quick referance' cheet sheets also. i saw a dozen or so a month ago when i looked.  they are worth printing out and keepong handy
[14:41] <malikeye|123> nope.. still no wlan configuration.... ugh
[14:42] <malikeye|123> lspci shows the device as well as lshw
[14:42] <malikeye|123> but it's just not getting recognized as configured in anyway
[14:42] <malikeye|123> unfortunately I'm not familiar with the debian ways of configuring networking :(
[14:42] <coolstacy> tucemiux: i have just passed a week using ubuntu , i have installed themes ,games app,etc but only through software centre or just by clicking. i want to lear how to install every thing using terminal. i liked some themes from other sites but they say u have to make file ,compile it using termianl and all that stuff which i find difficult.
[14:43] <bazhang> !manual | coolstacy start here
[14:44] <malikeye|123> somebody with wireless pastebin a default interfaces file for me?
[14:44] <h00k> coolstacy: also, check out #ubuntu-beginners if you'd like: /join #ubuntu-beginners
[14:44] <coolstacy> ubottu: its for 10.04 i am using 9.10
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  most of it will apply. but you may want to upgrade.
[14:45] <rmrfslash> I don't see an option to encrypt your hard drive during ubuntu installation... am I missing this or is it simply not a feature at this time?
[14:45] <vu1kan> malikeye|123 where would i find the file you want? i'll pb it for ya
[14:45] <malikeye|123> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[14:45] <hoare> guys what is the point of squashfs
[14:46] <rmrfslash> I think Fedora installer does have this
[14:46] <bazhang> rmrfslash, with the alternate?
[14:46] <rmrfslash> this is the LiveCD (but skipping the live part and went right to install)
[14:46] <malikeye|123> my interfaces file hasn't been touched in a week, so I'm thinking that might not be the problem
[14:46] <coolstacy> Dr_Willis: no i dont want to upgrade because 10.04 i installed 3 times and i dont know it was not working properly, i will stick to 9.10
[14:46] <vu1kan> auto lo
[14:46] <vu1kan> iface lo inet loopback
[14:46] <vu1kan>  is all that's in there
[14:47] <vu1kan> ...sorry about the flood, didn't mean to
[14:47] <bazhang> http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/ hoare
[14:47] <hoare> bazhang: lol
[14:47] <malikeye|123> yeah, that's all that is in mine as well
[14:47] <rmrfslash> bazhang: sorry, didn't address u... I burned the livecd but I just kind of skipped the live part in the initial menu and went right to "Install"
[14:47] <Martijnvdc> i have an usb surround sound headset, but pulseaudio doesn't detect all channels. How can i make those channels work please?
[14:47] <malikeye|123> so the dmesg doesn't mention the intel wireless adapter at all, but lspci and lshw do
[14:47] <bazhang> rmrfslash, ah, I meant the alternate installer
[14:47] <rmrfslash> bazhang: from there I don't see an option for encrypting the hdd.... I do see encypt my home folder
[14:48] <jiason> hi
[14:48] <rmrfslash> bazhang: so are you saying I need the alternate CD or that I need a different CD or something?
[14:48] <jiason> can you help me
[14:48] <vu1kan> !ask
[14:48] <jiason> my tvtime dont work in ubuntu 10.04
[14:48] <malikeye|123> I did add an option to the module to mess with the LED, wonder if that's the culprit... another reboot, ugh
[14:49] <coolstacy> h00k: is it useful
[14:49] <jiason> who can help me
[14:49] <coolstacy> h00k: i mean here max no. are experienced.
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> wow - such patience some peopel have..
[14:50] <h00k> coolstacy: I'm not sure what you meant by your last message
[14:50] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to test the touchpad? My touchpad aren't working. Thanks in advance
[14:50] <Gwar> Hi Guys. I have put a script in etc/init.d and made a syslink to it in rc2.d and prefixed it with S71. Do I need to run anything to update something or will it work fine just as is?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Gwar:  why not reboot and see if it works?
[14:51] <bazhang> rmrfslash, yep the alternate installer can do it
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> I always put fast and dirty scripts to run at boot time in /etc/rc.local  but im lazy
[14:52] <coolstacy> h00k: i mean many of u here in this channel are using ubuntu past many years.
[14:53] <tcl> failed due to unknow user id(0)    what up?
[14:53] <malikeye|123> think my Fn-F5 got tripped somehow
[14:53] <malikeye|123> which disables / enables the wireless adapter o_O
[14:54] <malikeye|123> I didn't touch it... so.. weird
[14:54] <Martijnvdc> i have an usb surround sound headset, but pulseaudio doesn't detect all channels. How can i make those channels work please?
[14:54] <malikeye|123> vu1kan, thanks for the paste :)
[14:54] <ziro`> how can i install packages ignoring dependency problems?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> malikeye|123:  ive seen on a few laptops  where wireless is turned off by default untill i hit the on/off switch for the wireless once.
[14:54] <malikeye|123> Dr_Willis, this is the first time it's done this in like 2 weeks though, so... it's weird
[14:54] <vaul> Can someone explain me why keyboard indicator was included in the notification area in Lucid? Google seems to be completely unaware of the reasons behind this decision.
[14:55] <coolstacy> ubottu: i have downloaded the manual 10.04 , the terminal commands must be same for all versions.
[14:55] <bazhang> coolstacy, sure they are
[14:56] <coolstacy> bazhang:thnxs , i will start  from now.
[14:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto coolstacy check this too
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  90% of the command line commands are the same as what i used 15+ yrs ago. :)
[14:56] <shivy> Hya everyone !
[14:56] <nenn3> How would i go about configuring what ips nfs server listens to? I have limited to local net in exports but that doesnt stop it from listening on my internet nic
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> coolstacy:  at least the majority of the ones i use are still the same. :)
[14:57] <isolat3dsh33p> guess nobody could help with the touchpad :(
[14:57] <vu1kan> vaul i'm running lucid and I don't have a keyboard indicator...are you maybe using a non-standard layout?
[14:57] <shivy> whats wrong with it  ?
[14:57] <Muzer> ARGH
[14:57] <Muzer> BLOODY LAUNCHPAD
[14:57] <shivy> ':)
[14:57] <Muzer> just timed me out and lost a whole wall of text I had typed because of it using bloody AJAX instead of being sensible
[14:57] <coolstacy> Dr_willis:thnks and bye ,time for tutorials.
[14:58]  * Muzer murders whoever made launchpad use AJAX
[14:58] <coolstacy> bazhang: thnks bye ,time for tutorial.
[14:58] <livingdaylight> does a soundcard have to have a mike socket?
[14:58] <vaul> vu1kan: It's all okay with you and your system. I think you just have only one layout, so there is no need for indicator to be displayed.
[14:58] <coolstacy> bye to all.:-)
[14:58] <vaul> vu1kan: And it seems I just picked a wrong place to ask the question.
[14:59] <antonio_> hi where i can find the bgi library?
[14:59] <erUSUL> !find bgi
[15:00] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: hey, my friend is also got issues with his skype. If a soundcard doesn't have a mike socket does that mean the computer has no mike and hence no skype?
[15:00] <Baribal> Hi. I got an Adobe Illustrator file today. Is there any OSS with which to view and/or modify it?
[15:00] <TaliaPhoenix> livingdaylight, erm lack of mic shouldnt stop skype working
[15:00] <TaliaPhoenix> it just means no voice call
[15:01] <erUSUL> Baribal: try scribus ?
[15:01] <vu1kan> livingdaylight i would guess that if the card doesn't have an input port, it doesn't support a mic...your friend might wanna look into a usb mic or headset
[15:01] <livingdaylight> TaliaPhoenix: yea, that's what I mean. we can chat via IM but I mean voice call
[15:01] <Baribal> erUSUL, thanks, installing now...
[15:02] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: usb would work around that? ok, thx I'll pass it along
[15:03] <erUSUL> Baribal: or inkscape http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Export/Import_capabilities_of_Scribus,_OpenOffice.org,_Inkscape,_GIMP,_and_Krita
[15:03] <jmestrada> Gwar, still here?
[15:03] <Martijnvdc> i have an usb surround sound headset, but pulseaudio doesn't detect all channels. How can i make those channels work please?
[15:03] <isolat3dsh33p> what's the latest vesion of linux kernel?
[15:04] <bazhang> !info linux | isolat3dsh33p
[15:04] <jmestrada> Gwar, to disable the password protection for shared folders in Win 7 didn't work
[15:04]  * Dr_Willis wonders if usb surround sound headsets just 'fake' surround sound in drivers.. or if they actually have 5+ speakers
[15:04] <klaxian> i am trying to set up a dual boot windows 7/ubuntu fakeraid 0.  i have windows up and running, ubuntu is installed, but i can't seem to get grub installed on the MBR.  any ideas?
[15:04] <malikeye|123> rsyslogd is taking a whole cpu :(
[15:05] <erUSUL> !fakeraid
[15:05] <klaxian> i have read and followed the fakeraid howto
[15:05] <klaxian> it didn't get grub installed in the MBR
[15:05] <klaxian> so i tried manually and it won't work either
[15:06] <aguitel> klaxian, do you use live cd?
[15:06] <isolat3dsh33p> bazhang, I got this from `uname -a` --> Linux sora-aoi 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:06] <klaxian> aguitel: yes
[15:06] <elb0w`> I cannot get ubuntu to run 4 monitors nicely
[15:06] <elb0w`> I have a nvidia quadro 440
[15:06] <Martijnvdc> the G35 surround sound headset is 7.1 and actually has those speakers, but my question is how to get them to work :p
[15:06] <isolat3dsh33p> bazhang, why am I still in *32-21??
[15:06] <private_meta> When I try to view flash videos in firefox (ubuntu 10.04), for a lot of flash video players (e.g. engadget video, old youtube player) I cannot click any button on/in the flash video, so I can't start, stop, ... them. Any Idea what I can do there?
[15:07] <bazhang> isolat3dsh33p, are they held back?
[15:07]  * Dr_Willis wonders how hedsets do '7.1' is there some speaker in the middle sitting on your forehead? :)
[15:07] <aguitel> klaxian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> I got some suround sound headsets they actually have like 5 plugs I have to plug into my sound card..
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> I never can get them in the right plugs :)
[15:07] <Martijnvdc> indeed, but mine is usb :)
[15:07] <klaxian> aguitel: thanks for the link, but it's not much help
[15:07] <elb0w`> IF I wanted to run 4 monitors on linux. What graphics card is recommended?
[15:08] <klaxian> i have ubuntu 9.10 and windows 7 installed
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> You are lucky it even works as stero really.. You ARE playing some actual  7.1 sounds/sources?
[15:08] <isolat3dsh33p> bazhang, I'm not sure, but apt-cache policy gives me the version for linux is <IP_ADDRESS>.23
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  some nvidia ones.
[15:08] <klaxian> i just cna't get grub installed on the MBR
[15:08] <elb0w`> Dr_Willis, thats a little broad
[15:08] <aguitel> klaxian,grub2 o grb legacy?
[15:08] <Martijnvdc> it works, but only front left and front right!
[15:08] <klaxian> aguitel: whatever the default on 9.10 is
[15:08] <klaxian> aguitel: let me double-check
[15:08] <Martijnvdc> and they work as stereo
[15:09] <Martijnvdc> but i don't have the option to chose 7.1 surround sound
[15:09] <isolat3dsh33p> bazhang, grub listed *32.21. Any idea why this happen? or how to solve it?
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:   so is your question. :)  I dont keep up with new cards..  there may be some out now that can do 4 on one card.. or use 2 identical cards.. its also a matter of cost/ and what your pc acn fit.
[15:09] <klaxian> aguitel: grub 0.97
[15:09] <willwork4foo> Hi! Anyone here used miro on Ubuntu netbook (lucid)>
[15:09] <willwork4foo> ?
[15:09] <aguitel> klaxian,To install GRUB 2 to the MBR, next you need to run grub-install /dev/sdx
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  there IS some new usb->video adaptors out. but ive never tried them
[15:09] <klaxian> aguitel: i have done that many times
[15:09] <Baribal> erUSUL, Inkscape did the trick, scribus didn't. Now I have to figure out how to actually use it, but, to quote Dexter, there's always a sacrifice. :)
[15:10] <elb0w`> Dr_Willis, I cant imagine those being good, it must be bottle necked by the bus
[15:10] <erUSUL> Baribal: good luck
[15:10] <willwork4foo> I have a bit of a problem with miro on UNE (lucid) where it sometimes doesn't draw the whole window and also won't let me enter my details into the login window
[15:10] <klaxian> aguitel: it says grub-probe cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[15:10] <ubutom> elb0w, matrox is pretty famous for multiple screens
[15:10] <klaxian> should i remove grub and install grub2?
[15:10] <ijse> my ubuntu can't make a sound...that's why?
[15:10] <thalib> is there any download program like internet download manager that works on ubuntu
[15:11] <aguitel> klaxian, do you have separate boot partition?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  they are not for gaming.. they are for  when you need 10+ monitors  :)  i think they can do up to 200.
[15:11] <elb0w`> ah
[15:11] <klaxian> aguitel: no, i am not using a separate boot partition.
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  i forget the name of the product. they were really neat. and i think below $100
[15:11] <ijse> e..
[15:11] <klaxian> aguitel: i am trying to install the boot loader on a fakeraid partition /dev/mapper/blah
[15:11] <elb0w`> we are using a Quadro nvs 440 right now. The problem isnt getting the monitors to work. Its getting them to act as a single desktop
[15:11] <aguitel> klaxian, are you in ubuntu now?
[15:11] <klaxian> aguitel: i have booted from the 9.10 live cd
[15:11] <chadi> When I compile and install compat-wireless, it works; when I install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic-pae, it does not work. Aren't these supposed to be the same?
[15:11] <klaxian> aguitel: i can mount my installation and chroot
[15:11] <thalib> is there any download program like internet download manager that works on ubuntu
[15:12] <klaxian> aguitel: if i reboot the computer, it uses the windows loader by default
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  'displaylink' is the name of the gizmo/company it seems -> http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/displaylink-release-three-new-usb-graphics-processors-and-linux-source-20090521/
[15:12] <thalib> is there any download program like internet download manager that works on ubuntu
[15:12] <malikeye|123> anybody ever see rsyslogd spin out of control?
[15:13] <sebsebseb> thalib: Firefox shows what you downloaded in downloads, also using wget to download stuff via the terminal, is quite cool really I guess :)
[15:13] <aguitel> klaxian, in the botton of the link there are some issue from karmic
[15:13] <isw> When sharing a ubuntu box to a windows network with samba do I have to open up any ports in iptables to access the ubuntu machine from windows machines?
[15:14] <thalib> i like a good application which can download and resume via rapidshare and hot file
[15:14] <thalib> any help
[15:14] <vu1kan> thalib d4x uget kget...go into synaptic and search 'download'
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> elb0w`:  i may be missreading the artical. it may be usb 'monitors' :)  rereading it now
[15:14] <sebsebseb> !info kget
[15:14] <vu1kan> !patience | thalib
[15:14] <klaxian> aguitel: i will read further
[15:14] <fist> thalib: jdownloader
[15:14] <sebsebseb> thalib: I think you can do that stuff with standard wget as well
[15:14] <sebsebseb> !wget
[15:15] <gothenburg> is there any fast keyboard layout switch? Like in winXP shift-alt?
[15:15] <malikeye|123> rsyslogd is logging like crazy about xhci, weird
[15:15] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: yes I think so,  also you can just add the keyboard layout switcher to the panel
[15:15] <gothenburg> sebsebseb: hmm
[15:16] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: set up for English and Swedish ( Göteborg )  and do that
[15:16] <malikeye|123> removed the module and it's fine... wow, that was weird
[15:16] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: thats what I do,  when I want öäå ÖÄÅ since I got a English keyboard
[15:16] <hemza> how to resolve this "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[15:16] <abhi_nav> gothenburg, ctrl + space
[15:17] <gothenburg> abhi_nav: okay
[15:17] <gothenburg> in gnome?
[15:17] <gentooxer> isw: http://troy.jdmz.net/samba/fw/
[15:17] <Varazir> Hello I'm looking for a consol mail client that I can use in script OR and program that can send out a e-mail when I have a pkg to update, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 server
[15:17] <isw> gentooxer: thanks
[15:17] <gothenburg> Varazir: mail ?
[15:17] <abhi_nav> gothenburg, and in the setting menu move the language you want to apper after pressing ctrl + space. and move down all other languagles.
[15:17] <Varazir> e-mail
[15:17] <abhi_nav> gothenburg, yes in gnome
[15:17] <Varazir> gothenburg: e-mail
 just ' sudo apt-get install package_name' in console, replacing package_name with the package you need installed
[15:17] <abhi_nav> gothenburg, in ibus
[15:18] <gentooxer> isw: you are welcome
[15:18] <abhi_nav> !ibus | gothenburg
[15:18] <gothenburg> okay
[15:18] <gothenburg> im from swe
[15:18] <hemza> thnx
[15:18] <erUSUL> Varazir: ssmtp or msmtp ?
[15:18] <gothenburg> thanx
[15:18] <drizzt_> is there some dock-like GTK ap[plication?
[15:19] <cesc> Hi. When I go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers I got the message "No proprietary drivers are in use in this system". My question is ... how can I allow proprietary drivers to be installed?
[15:19] <Varazir> erUSUL: smtp, I tried ssmtp but I couldn't get it to work..
[15:19] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: yes I know your Swedish since the name :D altough calling yourself Göteborg would have been better really, but then only Sweeds and such would know what it meant hrm
[15:19] <drizzt_> cesc, it means your hardware is not recognized
[15:20] <aguitel> drizzt_, what hardware are you talking about?
[15:20] <abhi_nav> sebsebseb, what is 'hrm'?
[15:20] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: Swedish keyboards have the letters öäå  no need to change layouts then I guess, in your case, if you got one of those
[15:20] <sebsebseb> abhi_nav: I meant like thinking
[15:20] <abhi_nav> sebsebseb, ok
[15:21] <cesc> I think it means  when I first installed ubuntu I said that I would not allow proprietary drivers to be installed on my machine... Am I correct? And how can I change this?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> cesc: which card you got_
[15:21] <sebsebseb> ??
[15:21] <cesc> I've an Nvidia Gforce 7600 GS
[15:22] <sebsebseb> cesc: right uhmm
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> cesc:  system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[15:22] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: yes, but he said none is there
[15:22] <Varazir> erUSUL: I tried ssmtp ( sendmail -au <username> -ap <passwrd> -am LOGIN smtp.server.com
[15:22] <sebsebseb> cesc: thats not a really new card is it?
[15:22] <fist> hey, i got a problem with my network printer (lexmark c530dn) with ubuntu 10.04. the installation was without errors and i can ping the printer+see the webinterface. but if i print something, the job does not reach the printer. but the popup says, that the job was completed and the cups-interface says the same
[15:23] <erUSUL> Varazir: well i'm nor myself user of such software so i dunno what went wrong ...
[15:23] <sebsebseb> fist: is that a pretty old Lexmark?
[15:23] <fist> no
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> cesc:   so theres not a listing showing that card? or is there a List and its saying they  are not in use?
[15:23] <sebsebseb> fist: how old is it?
[15:23] <fist> not two years
[15:23] <sebsebseb> fist: right, but is it over a year?
[15:23] <fist> yes
[15:23] <gothenburg> sebsebseb: but I want to learn Español so that's why. :p
[15:23] <Varazir> erUSUL: ok
[15:23] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: ah right
[15:23] <sebsebseb> gothenburg: ok
[15:23] <vodl> does anyone know how to set up programs so that they minimize after launch on startup? the trick to it must be the command
[15:23] <drizzt_> is there some dock-like GTK application?
[15:23] <cesc> yes Dr_Willis when I go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers I got the message "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system" and the list is empty
[15:24] <gothenburg> vodl: it should be a gear
[15:24] <sebsebseb> fist: ok well the bad news is,  Lexmark are known for their lack of Linux support, the good news is, that with their rather recent printers, they support Linux properly
[15:24] <sebsebseb> fist: even Tux the Linux mascot penguin on their boxes I read
[15:24] <fist> sebsebseb: with 9.10 the printer worked fine
 come again?
[15:24] <sebsebseb> fist: ah right
[15:24] <isolat3dsh33p> hal is not used in 10.04 right?
[15:24] <doyle> Q: how can I increase the line history for terminal?
[15:24] <sebsebseb> fist: well what sometimes happens with Ubuntu as well is that,   hardware worked fine in a previous version, but then not the later one
[15:25] <h00k> !dock | drizzt_
[15:25] <sebsebseb> isolat3dsh33p: indeed
[15:25] <drizzt_> cesc, you may need to installl nvidia-modprobe or something like this
 come again ?
[15:25] <sebsebseb> doyle: theres a setting so it can show more lines
[15:25] <h00k> drizzt_: there is Docky, AWN, etc, check in the Software Center for 'dock'
[15:25] <isolat3dsh33p> sebisebseb, then how do you configure touchpad in 10.04?
[15:25] <doyle> sebsebseb: Thanks! Found it
[15:25] <sebsebseb> doyle: ok :)
[15:26] <fist> sebsebseb: do you know a workaround or something? in the forums etc. is noone with my problem
[15:26] <cesc> when I go to System > Preferences > Appearance then Visual Effects I cannot select Extra (for the effects). Does that means I sould install the latest proprietary drivers for my Nvidia card?
[15:26] <sebsebseb> fist: nope and 10.04 isn't that great anyway  compared to previous releases
[15:26] <antonio_> how to list only links?
[15:26] <fist> :D
[15:26] <fist> good to know
[15:26] <sebsebseb> fist: 9.10 is also still supported untill the end of April next year
[15:27] <BluesKaj> hey folks how does one enable a wifi network that's listed as unclaimed http://pastebin.org/356344
[15:27] <Pici> sebsebseb, fist: That is only one person's opinion.  Many people are happy with 10.04.
[15:27] <vodl> does anyone know how to set up programs so that they minimize after launch on startup? the trick to it must be the command..
[15:27] <Pici> sebsebseb: Please do not spread FUD in this channel.
[15:27] <fist> sebsebseb: so i will have the same problem in one year .. if i downgrade to 9.10
[15:27] <sebsebseb> Pici: What I was trying to say is that its still ok for fist to go back to 9.10, if he wants to
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  if using compiz - I belive you set up a rule for that  also.
[15:28] <fist> a solution for 10.04 would be better
[15:28] <Pici> sebsebseb: okay.
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  ages ago i recall some 'start' program you could use to tweak that a little also. but that may of been a kde spefific command
[15:28] <vu1kan> vodl some programs have an option within them to do that, like pidgin, skype
[15:28] <TaliaPhoenix> Pici whats "FUD" I dont recognise the term?
[15:28] <sebsebseb> fist: well 10.10 will come out on Sunday 10th October (instead of Thursday 28th)
[15:29] <fist> :D
[15:29] <Pici> !fud | TaliaPhoenix
 yea but not all
[15:29] <elb0w`> How do I change default runlevel in ubuntu I see no /etc/inittab
[15:29] <sebsebseb> Pici: Oh theres a factoid for that, is it new?
[15:29] <Pici> sebsebseb: nope.
 what's the console command for minimizing a window?
[15:29] <sebsebseb> Pici: well first time I seen it
[15:29] <h00k> !runlevel | elb0w`
[15:29] <vu1kan> vodl i have no idea...i'm pretty noobish
[15:29] <Pici> sebsebseb: Yep, we don't use it that much.
[15:30] <nichos> hi all, is there a window manager that works well with a remote? I'm looking for something nice to switch between boxee and myth when I exit either one with the remote
[15:30] <nichos> basically when I exit let's say myth, i'd like a window manager with 2 icons, 1 for myth, the other for boxee
[15:31] <elb0w`> h00k, I have no idea what that means
[15:31] <vodl> anyone else know the command to minimize a window?
[15:32] <h00k> !upstart | elb0w`
[15:32] <abys> somebody who knows how to fix permission denied(publickey) when using ssh
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  i dont think there is such a command. at least not one thats 'standard'
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  there may be some x macro type tools that can sort of do it.
 oh alright
[15:33] <vodl> don't want it that much :D
[15:33] <joobong> hey guys how can we run virtual box
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  theres also proberly some compiz features that can fake it.
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> joobong:  instazll  virtualbox... run it..
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | joobong
[15:34] <abys> joobong: just google virtualbox :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, how does one enable a wifi network that's listed as unclaimed ?
[15:34] <soreau> vodl: You might want to look into xdotool
[15:34] <joobong> thank you ubottu
[15:34] <sebsebseb> abys: thats not a very helpful answer, but i'll give joobong one :)
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  No idea. ive never heard of that term used befor with wireless.
[15:34] <sebsebseb> !thanks | ubottu
[15:35] <sebsebseb> uh
[15:35] <h00k> ubottu: tell abys about google
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> !info xdotool
[15:35] <sebsebseb> !thanks | joobong
[15:35] <abys> sebsebseb: sry im just frustrated
[15:35] <sebsebseb> joobong: right both versions are free as in price
thanks but just wanted it to start transmission and xchat minimized since I have them wired to load on start-up
[15:35] <sebsebseb> ledge: the one in repo lacks USB support, the other version has it
[15:36] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.org/356344
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  compiz can do that.. but it may minimuize them EVERY time you start them up.. even if you close, then restart them
[15:36] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I dont think compiz has a feature to minimize windows right after they are open
[15:36] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I dont think minimize is a rule choice
 can't use compfiz..have 2 monitors running and if I try to start it up it freezes the entire screen
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  Hmm.. I would have to double check.. but i thought it did. I set up some things to be always on top, on specific desktops and mazamized.,. cant recall ever using
 done trying but thanks for the tip :)
[15:37] <abys> Need some help with ssh , i did everything to prevent getting "Permission denied (publickey)"
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> one for minimize
[15:37] <rmrfslash> bazhang: So during the alternate install CD I was prompted to encrypt my home directory... is this the only level of encryption in ubuntu during installation?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  odd.. compiz works great on my 2 monitor setup.
[15:38] <xshyamx> !wget
[15:38] <xshyamx> !info wget
[15:38] <xshyamx> !info curl
[15:38] <drizzt_> iis there some lightweight "dock" application, not bloat like awn, docky or ciro-dock?
 have an radeon 9550 vc, very buggy on ubuntu, could barely get it up and running, that might be the reason why
[15:40] <xshyamx> hi, having a strange wget proxy problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/454486/
[15:40] <drizzt_> second question, which package is responcible for keybiard indicator in notification area?
[15:41] <xshyamx> I'm able to use curl but, wget fails to use the proxy
[15:41] <xshyamx> any ideas?
[15:42] <rmrfslash> xshyamx: what's the problem?
[15:42] <datacrusher> what is the command that i set random white noise to my audio output?
[15:43] <xshyamx> rmrfslash: I get connection refused if I use wget but, the same proxy works for curl
[15:43] <rmrfslash> what's the http_proxy setting?
[15:43] <rmrfslash> s/the/your
[15:43] <wawawawa> xhshymax: and if you leave the --proxy=on out?
[15:43] <xshyamx> rmrfslash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454486/
[15:43] <xshyamx> same thing
[15:43] <indus> a
[15:43] <wawawawa> ok
[15:43] <maya_21> is it possible to get an information about the network topology which my computer use ?
[15:43] <Baribal> datacrusher, once upon the time, it was cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[15:44] <rmrfslash> you don't need to use --proxy=on
[15:44] <wawawawa> my thinking exactly
[15:44] <datacrusher> Baribal, hmm thanks.. it dont work anymore?
[15:45] <wawawawa> xshymax: use --debug and post the output
[15:45] <rmrfslash> does case matter in http_proxy env var?
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> rmrfslash:  for a variable name - yes.
[15:45] <rmrfslash> export http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080
[15:45] <has_> nick HebertSilva
[15:45] <has_> nick HebertSilva
[15:45] <rmrfslash> xshyamx: try that ^^
[15:45] <Baribal> datacrusher, I have no idea. I never had the inclination to listen to white noise for extended time, and even if I did, I'd probably whip up a sample using audacity.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> rmrfslash:  try 'echo $http_proxy'
[15:45] <rmrfslash> Dr_Willis: this isn't for me
[15:46] <xshyamx> rmrfslash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454490/
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> rmrfslash:  that exporting  i was just thinking MAY be incorrect and need quotes :)
[15:46] <xshyamx> wawawawa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454490/
[15:46] <thalib> does ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SETUP winfast pxtv1200 in linux
[15:46] <has_> nick HebertSilva
[15:47] <peppermint> hi i am in the rc.xml file i need add the command that does the ctrl+alt+backspace restart x command
[15:47] <bastid_raZor> !dontzap | peppermint
[15:47] <maya_21>  is it possible to get an information about the network topology which my computer use ? the information can be which computers (with computer name , ip or mac) are using the same network, or which computers are using the same router with me...
[15:47] <xshyamx> Dr_Willis: I'm able to set the same proxy in a older Intrepid machine and wget works there
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> xshyamx:  I never use proxys with wget. but im pretty sure the variable Caswe does matter. and it may need some quotes in the export line if it has special cahracters
[15:48] <bastid_raZor> peppermint: /etc/init.d/gdm restart     but it needs sudo
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo service gdm restart'  is the 'upstart' way :0
[15:49] <erUSUL> maya_21: network map nmap and its gui zenmap
[15:49] <erUSUL> !info zenmap | maya_21
[15:49] <jim> so when is Uppity Upstart coming out?
[15:49] <indus> thalib, hi
[15:49] <malikeye|123> ubutom, you remember my slow VM performance from the other day?
[15:49] <peppermint> basicer, i need to put that command in the ubuntu-rc.xml file
[15:49] <elb0w`> Im trying to get into grub when I reboot
[15:50] <elb0w`> but I do not see them
[15:50] <malikeye|123> ubutom, turns out, there is a sysctl tweak you can make with the scheduler that increases performance a whole ton
[15:50] <erUSUL> elb0w`: press shift to make grub2 show menu
[15:50] <elb0w`> from boot?
[15:50] <xshyamx> Dr_Willis: actually I did not put any export statement I merely set the proxy in System>Preferences>Network Proxy
[15:50] <malikeye|123> this guy : /proc/sys/kernel/sched_compat_yield
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> xshyamx:  never tried that. it proberly sets some ENV variables.
[15:50] <xshyamx> Dr_Willis: yes it sets it in /etc/environment
[15:51] <elb0w`> erUSUL, when its posting I press shift? and it will load grub?
[15:51] <peppermint> Dr_Willis, is that the exact command i add in rc.xml file
[15:51] <xshyamx> Dr_Willis: if it echoes right then it is set properly right?
[15:51] <bluntu> Hello
[15:51] <erUSUL> elb0w`: it will show the menu if it is hidden by default
[15:51] <isw> how do I configure iptables firewall under ubuntu to allow access to the Samba server?
[15:51] <elb0w`> erUSUL, didnt work
[15:51] <jim> elb0w`: you don't think you're even getting to grub at all?
[15:51] <bluntu> Is there someone who can help me with an ubuntu install?
[15:51] <maya_21> erUSUL i will try it thank you! :)
[15:52] <elb0w`> jim its posting then hangs on ubuntu screen
[15:52] <elb0w`> hitting shift while it posts is not loading grub
[15:52] <jim> so it sounds like grub is loading
[15:52] <xshyamx> isw: what port are u running samba?
[15:53] <elb0w`> jim, I want to swap to run level 3
[15:53] <vu1kan> elb0w` mine's set to go into the grub menu if i press esc
[15:53] <isw> xshyamx: default let me get you the ports
[15:53] <bluntu> I am trying to install 10.04, but I can't get passed step 4.
[15:53] <jim> hold the shift key down for longer while it posts and see
[15:53] <bluntu> There are no partitions showing up in the window
[15:54] <wawawawa> xshymax: what is you 'wget --version'? I tested this and with my wget proxy works fine (Lucid)
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> xshyamx:  yep. shoudl be
[15:54] <isw> xshyamx: I need to learn how to open up UDP 137, 138 & TCP 139, 445
[15:54] <bluntu> I am using unetbootin to install
[15:54] <xshyamx> isw: the usual synatx is iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport <port-no> -s 0/0 -j ACCEPT
[15:54] <bluntu> from my HD
[15:54] <isw> xshyamx: k thanks
[15:55] <xshyamx> wawawawa: I'm using the the wget 1.12 from the ubuntu repos
[15:55] <wawawawa> xhymax: me too.. and it works fine
[15:55] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[15:55] <bluntu> can anyone help me here with this install?
[15:55] <ljsoftnet> bluntu: what do u need installed?
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  using unetbootin to install to a hard drive? that wont do a 'normal' install it will be a live-cd-type install that may not save changes
[15:56] <bluntu> 10.04
[15:56] <xshyamx> wawawawa: I'm puzzled by that too, here is the version info http://paste.ubuntu.com/454492/
[15:56] <bluntu> I don;t need to save changes
[15:56] <bluntu> I want my HD wiped and have 10.4
[15:56] <bluntu> 10.04
[15:56] <marine1> When launching x-sane it only sees my web cam not scanner, but in lsusb it list it
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  somthing seems odd about yoru statements..  you want to install 10.04 to the hd?
[15:56] <ljsoftnet> bluntu: just follow the install screen and select "Use Entire disk"
[15:56] <xshyamx> wawawawa: another strange thing is that I have another 10.04 lubuntu running inside a virtual box...and wget works there its maddening
[15:57] <jim> bluntu: do you have ubuntu now?
[15:57] <bluntu> but no disks show up in step four of the install
[15:57] <bluntu> yes
[15:57] <jim> why not just upgrade
[15:57] <xshyamx> and I have not changed any of the config files /etc/wgetrc or ~/.wgetrc
[15:57] <ljsoftnet> bluntu: thats a problem
[15:57] <bluntu> @jim: sorry, no I don;t have ubuntu now
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  You did a unetbootin install to the  hard drive.. and bootted that THEN ran the ubuntu installer from the unetbootin-installed-to-hd-setup ?
[15:57] <jim> oh ok
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  you mean step 4 of the ubuntu installer right? not unetbootins dialogs?
[15:58] <wawawawa> xshyamx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454494/
[15:58] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[15:58] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: this is what I did: I had Windows XP and downloaded an ISO for Ubuntu and try to install that now using Unetbootin
[15:58] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: indeed
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  so you are at step4 of the Unetbootin installer then?
[15:58] <bluntu> step 4 of the installer
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> Be more clear in your answers :)
[15:59] <bluntu> step 4 of the ubuntu installer
[15:59] <bluntu> I am booted into ubuntu
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  so you used unetbootin - to put the iso on the HD.. booted the HD?
[15:59] <bluntu> yes
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  and youa re trying to install to the SAME hard drive as the unetbootin booted  from?
[15:59] <bluntu> yes
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> thats proberly the issue then.
[15:59] <bluntu> not possible?
[15:59] <xshyamx> wawawawa: atleast for you it is trying the proxy first...for me it just does not recognize th eproxy
[15:59] <bluntu> damn
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> Unless you had the hd partuitined beforhand.. im not sure its going to resize where it booted from
[16:00] <ljsoftnet> bluntu: its possible but you have a hard disk problem
[16:00] <Alien_FX_Fiend> can someone help me register at a simple machines forum?
[16:00] <killfill> hi
[16:00] <Pici> !ot | Alien_FX_Fiend
[16:00] <ljsoftnet> bluntu: is it a laptop or desktop?
[16:00] <killfill> i have an ubuntu 8.10, and need postgres-client 8.4
[16:00] <Alien_FX_Fiend> okay sorry
[16:00] <killfill> how do i get it?
[16:00] <bluntu> problem is that this machine has a broken cd-drive and does't allow booting from USB
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  if you had the HD allready parttioned you Might be able to install to the OTHEr partitions..  but unetbootin proberly made a single partition on the HD.
[16:00] <killfill> i see in the repos are only packages for 8.3 :S
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  best would been to use a USB flash drive as an installer medium
[16:00] <Guest37279> hi i am using Bluefish on Ubuntu. since i am using SVN my files get updated quite often by other people when i run 'svn update'. how can i automatically update my WC files in Bluefish while I'm editing them?
[16:01] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: the computer doesn;t allow startup from USB
[16:01] <wawawawa> xshyamx: yes. I'm not sure what to suggest next! Completely remove / purge and re-install?  Make sure there are no other "*_proxy" variables set? can you open a shell and pastebin the output of "set"?
[16:01] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  You MIGHT be able to use gparted to resize the partitions.
[16:01] <marine1> x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner what uo wit dat???
[16:01] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: but Gparted requires me to boot from cd right?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  then install to a 2nd partion other then the one you used unetbootin on.
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  No it does not. Your unetbootin 'setup' IS basically the same as booting from cd also.
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  well.. it might  in this case.. actually I think there IS a new 'toram' option for 10.04
[16:02] <Pici> killfill: 8.10 is no longer supported.  postgres-client-8.4 is only in jaunty (9.04) and higher.
[16:02] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: but to use gparted I need to stat up from cd
[16:02] <hotfloppy> bluntu: cd drive is broken and cant boot from usb.. i think the last resort is install via network..
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  how much ram ya got?
[16:02] <jim> so potentially he could boot any cd that way
[16:02] <bluntu> 512
[16:02] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: 512 mb
[16:02] <killfill> Pici: 8.10 is intrepid right?
[16:02] <killfill> i found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/es/intrepid-backports/postgresql-8.4
[16:03] <killfill> how do i install a backport?
[16:03] <helpme> hello ,please help me with installation of xen in lucid not xen 3.3
[16:03] <helpme> and debian pub key
[16:03] <bluntu> hotfloppy: ah yeah, and the computer doesn't have a floppydrive :)
[16:04] <jim> killfill: is 8.4 what you want?
[16:04] <xshyamx> wawawawa: that solved it :D...the problem turned out to be all_proxy=socks://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080
[16:04] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: I am using basically a Harddrive with a CPU and Ethernetport...
[16:04] <marine1> need help installing scanner portion of hp 4500 wireless print, scan copy and fax
[16:04] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | killfill
[16:04] <killfill> jim, yup, the client.
[16:04] <wawawawa> xshymax: yay!
[16:04] <xshyamx> wawawawa: once I unset all_proxy it worked like a charm....thx a lot :)
[16:04] <jim> not the server?
[16:04] <fishcooker> how to make automated cd.installer of ubuntu server without any interactive session
[16:05] <fishcooker> ?
[16:05] <fishcooker> anyone
[16:05] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: isn;t it possible to install Ubuntu whilest starting up? Without going into the 'Live' mode?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> fishcooker: #ubuntu-server
[16:05] <ruiwen> hi has anyone using lucid run into the issue where 'gem install sprockets' did not give the 'sprocketize' executable?
[16:05] <jim> you're going to contact a 8.4 server running elsewhere?
[16:05] <Pici> killfill: If you absolutely-positively cannot migrate off of 8.10 then you may be able to use old-releases.ubuntu.com as your package repository to install that package.
[16:05] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[16:05] <helpme> hello any link for latest xen installaionin lucid?
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  the installcd and that boot setup you got should hagve a 'test' and 'install' item at one of the first dialogs..
[16:05] <Pici> killfill: I highly suggest that you migrate off of that version of Ubuntu as we cannot provide further support for it.
[16:05] <fishcooker> i'll tried seb3
[16:06] <killfill> Aah there is the instrepid-backports directory.
[16:06] <killfill> Pici: thanks!
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  it used to be a grub item  int he last release. its a little dialog in 10.04
[16:06] <bluntu> Dr_Willis nah, it boots straight into live
[16:06] <chowlala> hi
[16:06] <thune3> fishcooker: is this what you are talking about: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD
[16:06] <chowlala> i'm new to ubuntu
[16:06] <chowlala> lol
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  unetbootin may be giving it some options when it boots.
[16:06] <ibm> ?
[16:06] <ibm> ?
[16:06] <sebsebseb> chowlala: ok hi
[16:06] <ibm> ?
[16:06] <FloodBot3> ibm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <chowlala> is this a good place to get help if i need it anytime? :)
[16:06] <bluntu> it Dr_Willis: it only gives Ubuntu or Help
[16:06] <sebsebseb> chowlala: yes
[16:06] <sebsebseb> chowlala: depending on who is active at the time
[16:06] <chowlala> sebsebseb: thanks =) sounds good
[16:06] <ibm> 6+h8jk6jk
[16:06] <ibm> 5h
[16:07] <ibm> hgj5h54gh
[16:07] <FloodBot3> ibm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> !ops | ibm
[16:07] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[16:07] <helpme> dr willis any link to install latest xen in ubuntu lucid??
[16:07] <chowlala> i could really use help learning ubuntu, fresh new for 3 days
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  examine the boot configs unetbootin is using thats on the hard drive.
[16:07] <Varazir> Hello again, when you login you see a msg that there is programs that has a update how can you access that with a script ?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> helpme:  no idea. I never use xen
[16:07] <fishcooker> arigatou thune3
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> !xen | helpme
[16:07] <bluntu> Dr_Willis where do I find the configs?
[16:07] <Zirts> how can i get my sound working=?  I have the latest ubuntu version atm
[16:07] <helpme> and debian pub key ?
[16:07] <marine1> scanner not being recognized  after install what up wit dat???
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  on the hard drive you installed to. unetbootin may be using syslinux, so will be some syslinux.cfg or suimiler config
[16:08] <killfill> Hm..
[16:08] <helpme> yes but it install old xen ,which will not work wih latest kernel
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  one of the MANY reasions i dont do unetbootin installs to 'hard drives' :)  i end up debugging unetbootins setup to much
[16:08] <sebsebseb> chowlala: also
[16:08] <killfill> Pici: the intrepid-backports directory doesnt have packages for i386.. :S
[16:08] <sebsebseb> chowlala: well this is a good download to get
[16:08] <helpme> thanks ubottu
[16:08] <sebsebseb> !manual | chowlala
[16:08] <joobong> how do we do it
[16:08] <sebsebseb> chowlala: There also Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[16:09] <bluntu> Dr_Willis: I am willing to try anything else to get this installed asap. If you can provide me with a better idea, I'll do that in a heartbeat
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  if you scres up  a config.. and system wont boot.. well.. you are stuck arent you.
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  put hd in a 2nd machine..  install to it there.
[16:09] <bluntu> no option...
[16:09] <wawawawa> bluntu: can you salvage a CDROM drive from anywhere? it would make this much easier....
[16:09] <bluntu> yeah... I guess you are right
[16:09]  * Dr_Willis must have 10 cd'rom drives in the garrage for the trash
[16:09] <bluntu> I am gonan try that...
[16:09] <chowlala> sebsebseb: oh... ok
[16:10] <wawawawa> at some point you have to withdraw, re-plan...
[16:10] <wawawawa> ;-)
[16:10] <bluntu> how about installing from the net?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> !new | chowlala
[16:10] <Pici> killfill: Well. As much as it should be there, you aren't garunteed anything since you are on an unsupported release.  I'll file a bug anyway though.
[16:10] <sebsebseb> chowlala: Enjoy Ubuntu!
[16:10] <chowlala> thanks lots sebsebseb :) gonna try my best haha
[16:10] <marine1> Need help installing the scan portion of the hp 4500 wireless. I have successfully completed the print,fax and copy part of it.
[16:11] <bluntu> Dr_Willis how about installing from the net?
[16:11] <marine1> has anyone here have any set up experience with scanners
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> bluntu:  never tried. I got plenty of cd/dvd/flash drives.
[16:11] <killfill> greate.
[16:11] <killfill> thx
[16:11] <marine1> scanner not being recognized  after install what up wit dat???
[16:11] <sebsebseb> chowlala: Then when you are more experienced their are other Linux distros you could try as well, if you want to.  http://www.distrowatch.com
[16:12] <abys> Can somebody tell me how to fix : Permission denied (publickey) with SSH
[16:12] <ruiwen> anyone issues with the 'sprockets' gem?
[16:13] <thalib> does ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SETUP winfast pxtv1200 in linux
[16:13] <sebsebseb> !caps | thalib
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  you checked the forums yet?
[16:13]  * Dr_Willis wonders what a pxtv even is.
[16:13] <oli> u usin x chat
[16:13] <oli> me too
[16:14] <Matisse> hi
[16:14] <oli> :D
[16:14] <Matisse> can somebody help me with claws mail? If i want to download mails via imap it doesnt do anything, no protocol entry, no crash, no nothing
[16:14] <oli> is evryone usin ubnbuntu
[16:14] <thalib> @dr_willis which ones
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  the ubuntu forums..
[16:14] <thalib> its bt leadtek
[16:14] <thalib> analogue tv tuner card
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  the mythbuntu forums are also good for tvtuner card info
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> for my tuner.. i plugged it in.. saw it was seen in dmesg.. fired up a tv tuner card.. and sat and watched bugs bunny all day.
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> tuner program. :)
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  what hage you DONE to actuyally use the card so far?
[16:16] <Varazir> How do I read the info that I have pkg's to update that you see when you login (console) ?
[16:16] <thalib> not much
[16:16] <oli> why are ppl saying " example has left " and " example has joined unbuntu "
[16:16] <thalib> installed tv time but it wont run
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> oli:  your irc client is saying that.
[16:16] <root> algumm brasileiro?
[16:16] <oli> wow lots of ppl on here
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !tvtuner
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> oli: 1502 to be exact
[16:17] <oli> ?
[16:17] <oli> ??????????????????
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> 1502 people..  are in here
[16:17] <thalib> yes i used it on xp and w7 to watch tv
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> - the bots..
[16:17] <Pici> oli: Do you have a support question?  This is a support channel, if you'd like to chat, you are free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:17] <Guest92817> someone can help me?
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  theres other tuner apps. even vlc and mplayer can  be used.. but ive not done so in years
[16:17] <Varazir> I tried to search for ubuntu console login screen but what I find is the GNU login screen :(
[16:17] <oli> i will
[16:17] <indus> thalib, hi
[16:17] <Pici> !br | Guest92817
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Varazir:  huh? clarify the whole problem.
[16:18] <Shinhan> I have problems setting up dnsmasq. What would be the best channel to ask for help with it?
[16:18] <oli> can anyone help me i pooed my pants :D
[16:19] <vu1kan> !ot | oli
[16:19] <sebsebseb> !troll | oli
[16:19] <Pici> oli: Please stop.  That is not welcome in this or any other Ubuntu channel.
[16:19] <oli> wait ill be back but named Unbuntu boss
[16:19] <vu1kan> ooo...didn't know about that command
[16:20] <Guest92817> I need to get in on network of me collegi
[16:20] <Guest92817> can help
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest92817:  clarify the question and how its related to ubuntu.
[16:20] <Varazir> Dr_Willis: what I like is a app that can e-mail me if I have a update on my server, I can't finde any so I thought of create a bash script, but I need su to run apt-get and can it be done in a cronjob ?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> Guest92817: so get the connection details from them and connect?
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> Varazir:  there sproberly some tools out that can notify you of updates. check package manager.. or just set up auto updateing perhaps?
[16:21] <Unbuntu> im unbintu
[16:21] <Unbuntu> i am unbunu boss
[16:22] <wawawawa> Varazir: I use monit
[16:22] <Varazir> wawawawa: it's console ?
[16:23] <wawawawa> Varazir: A very lightweight mgmt application with a web frontend... there's a plugin that alerts (email, snmp trap etc) if your packages are out of date. You need to set apt-get update to run regularly though
[16:23] <Unbuntu> ARE PPL LISTENG TO ME
[16:23] <sebsebseb> !ot | Unbuntu
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> Unbuntu:  I imagione most of us have you on ignore
[16:23] <wawawawa> !troll | Unbuntu
[16:23] <l3> Hello: I am trying to use ifdown to take down eth1, but I believe Ubuntu manages the network differently since that is not working.  Googling has now produced a way for me to do this from the command line.  I was wondering: how do I restart a wired connection from command line?
[16:23] <Unbuntu> FUCKERIAH
[16:23] <Unbuntu> FUCK
[16:23] <Unbuntu> PISS OF
[16:23] <FloodBot3> Unbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <Guest92817> ds
[16:26] <Guest92817> I`m in the connection of my school
[16:29] <pac`s> alguem fala portgues
[16:29] <pac`s> ??
[16:29] <user01> what is the difference between tzsetup, tzselect, and tzconfig?
[16:29] <jpds> !pt | pac`s
[16:29] <pac`s> I can help me
[16:33] <Matterco> I need a little help getting Apache2 to start on my Ubuntu 10 Server machine. I am getting this error:
[16:33] <Matterco> " * Starting web server apache2
[16:33] <Matterco> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[16:33] <Matterco> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[16:33] <Matterco> Unable to open logs
[16:33] <FloodBot3> Matterco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Matterco>    ...fail!"
[16:33] <Matterco> When I run netstat -lnp | grep '<IP_ADDRESS>:80'
[16:34] <sebsebseb> Matterco: Server edition support in #ubuntu-server
[16:34] <zus> so i tried to installrunes of magic, and no matter where i clicked it says there is not room left on the disc,... i went to the file system and it shows i have 15.5gigs free.  how can i find out how much space i have used and have left is there a cli?
[16:35] <LjL> Matterco: uhm, that sounds like you have another webserver already running.
[16:35] <yoyoned> zus: df -h
[16:35] <mbeierl> I lose
[16:36] <zus> yoyoned,  is that with sudo  or no?
[16:36] <yuanjin> My first time to use irssi to join #ubuntu. Hello
[16:36] <Pici> killfill: The i386 stuff should be on old-releases for intrepid now.
[16:36] <Matterco> LjL I installed phpmyadmin, do think that installed apache2 for itself?
[16:37] <yoyoned> sudo not required
[16:37] <zus> thank you
[16:37] <yoyoned> zus: np
[16:37] <LjL> Matterco: it might have, but then if it were apache it should simply tell you it's already running, rather than erroring out. try doing "netstat -l -p -n | grep 80" to see what might be using port 80
[16:38] <Matterco> LjL http://paste.ubuntu.com/454509/
[16:38] <Matterco> Says apache
[16:39] <Matterco> I installed Postfix yesterday, but that does not require apache
[16:41] <elb0w`> why is the package xserver-xgl not available in 10.04
[16:41] <elb0w`> ?
[16:41] <LjL> Matterco: well then it's already running, i don't know why, but it is. try killing it with "sudo service apache2 stop; kill 1137" and restarting it with "sudo service apache2 start"
[16:42] <Pici> Matterco: you'll need a sudo for that kill command LjL gave you.
[16:42] <Daekdroom> elb0w`, it was deprecated
[16:42] <LjL> elb0w`: ehm, i think it's been deprecated like ages ago
[16:43] <elb0w`> what is the new version?
[16:43] <Daekdroom> It's not necessary and there are plenty ways to replace it.
[16:43] <elb0w`> Daekdroom, I am trying to get 4 monitors to run
[16:43] <elb0w`> with one x session
[16:43] <yuanjin> I have a problem that every time when I reboot my 10.04, and log back to the Gnome, the GDE seems not to work normally. There is no operation ico on the window I launch. I have to change the display mode in "system>preference>appearance" to load my driver for my Graphics card. Could someone just tell me why?
[16:43] <abys> hurray first problem solved , time = 2DAYS :)
[16:44] <Matterco> LjL the kill and start commands worked. how do I find out why that process started and why it is interrupting my version of Apache? Thank you
[16:44] <jim> abys, I'd say you got off cheap...
[16:44] <LjL> Matterco, i don't really know, but i guess you could look at the logs in /var/log to see *when* it started.
[16:44] <Matterco> k, thanks again
[16:44] <abys> jim: but it was not that difficult :) but im learning and i like it
[16:45] <benlieb> Question: I have a file with 8,000 lines of small float numbers. Is there a command I can run the file trough that will add them up and output the total? Of course I could     write my own, but just not wanting to reinvent the wheel if not needed.
[16:46] <jim> benlieb: spreadsheet?
[16:46] <yoyoned> benlieb: easy in python
[16:47] <benlieb> i know it's easy to write a program to do it, i'm just wondering if there's a native linux command that already does it. Like wc operateson text, I wondered if something operates on numbers
[16:47] <daniel__> I installed Ubuntu and then the nvidia drivers for my computer and now all I can do is reslutions of 32x240 or 640x480.  My monitor can handle up to 2048.1536.  How can I fix this?
[16:47] <shomon> hi, I'm sure you get this all the time here but...
[16:47] <jim> why do you think there are so many scripting and compiled languages available? any problem ought to be easy in one of them...
[16:47] <shomon> how do I get rid of the keyring password prompt every time I log in to lucid?
[16:47] <yoyoned> benlieb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707356
[16:48] <shomon> it only wants access to the wireless so it's completely useless password prompt
[16:48] <daniel__> If anyone can assist me, please message me.
[16:49] <jim> daniel__: try posting a specific, informative, concise, complete question to the channel
[16:49] <daniel__> I thought I did.
[16:49] <CkhiKuzad> is there a CLI frontend program thats similar to xsensors?
[16:49] <elb0w`> How do I change the default runlevel?
[16:50] <daniel__> I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed, I also installed the hardware nvidia drivers and now all I get is 640x480 max resolution.  How can I get higher resolutions?
[16:50] <daniel__> Is there a way to tell Linux my Monitor name and let it fix it?
[16:50] <CkhiKuzad> Daniel__: go to system>preferences>monitor and there should be an option to make the resolution higher
[16:51] <jim> see what happens if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:51] <shomon> I have recently upgraded to lucid lynx from hoary so this problem comes from 8.06. It has always asked me for a login keyring
[16:51] <shomon> how do I get rid of this useless prompt?
[16:51] <daniel__> That sends me to the nvidia drivers.
[16:51] <daniel__> Let me try saying no and see what happens.
[16:51] <xshyamx> benlieb: perl -e 'while ( <> ) { $s += <>; } print $s' <file>
[16:52]  * jim used to know a pair of twin shomons
[16:52] <CkhiKuzad> wait a minute, xsyamx... that kinda looks forkbomb ish
[16:52] <daniel__> Even there all I get is 640x480 or 320x240 for resolutions
[16:52] <xshyamx> CkhiKuzad: nope i just tried it
[16:52] <thune3> benlieb: to riff on xshymax: perl -ne '$a += $_; END { print "$a\n";}' numbers.file
[16:52] <CkhiKuzad> alright, i googled it too.
[16:52] <CkhiKuzad> its not a forkbomb.
[16:53] <shomon> can I just remove my login keyring?
[16:54] <jim> I think one of the shomon twins was rosalie
[16:54] <daniel__> Ho0w do I get better resolutions with the nvidia drivers installed?
[16:54] <zus> yoyoned,  thanks i just now  ran the cli,  ( i never seem to have room ) :)
[16:54] <CkhiKuzad> shomon, if it isnt making it impossible to log in, and its just a very minor inconvenience, i would recommend keeping it. because your login keyring is used to decrypt things, if you dont have it, your data might be permanently encrypted.
[16:55] <zus> how does Partitions work? i thought the more crap i would want to install, the more root id need now i have too much root and not enough home,...
[16:55] <shomon> no
[16:55] <shomon> I need to remove this
[16:56] <gogu> HI, am beginner. Ibus is not working properly, it prompts to add some commands to  "$HOME/.bashrc". how to do ?
[16:56] <shomon> sorry CkhiKuzad - it's a family computer and I don't want them to use it for the wireless
[16:56] <shomon> I mean I don't want them to get prompted for this for the wireless access. It should just be available
[16:56] <CkhiKuzad> gogu: sudo gedit ~/.bashrc
[16:56] <Matisse> can somebody help me with claws mail? If i want to download mails via imap it doesnt do anything, no protocol entry, no crash, no nothing
[16:56] <daniel__> Does anyone know how to fix the nvidia drivers only letting me have 320x240 or 640x480 resolutions?
[16:56] <shomon> or at least change it
[16:57] <Pici> gogu, CkhiKuzad: You don't need, and should not use, sudo to modify files that your user owns, such as that file.
[16:57] <CkhiKuzad> pici: oh. my mistake ^^;
[16:57] <kay_> hey, i need a driver for my nvidia geforce 7600gt...what to do?
[16:57] <daniel__> Hardware drivers
[16:58] <jim> kay_: get the driver!
[16:58] <kay_> does not list em
[16:58] <CkhiKuzad> gogu: gedit ~/.bashrc (alternatively you could use nano ~/.bashrc
[16:58] <daniel__> But using them I can't get more than 640x480 resolutions on here.
[16:58] <daniel__> what are you running kay?
[16:58] <kay_> ubuntu 9.04
[16:58] <gogu> CkhiKuzad, i could open the file. where should I paste the commands and save the file?
[16:59] <CkhiKuzad> the end of the file
[16:59] <daniel__> kay go to System, Admin, Hardware drivers
[16:59] <gogu> CkhiKuzad, ok. will get back
[16:59] <CkhiKuzad> dont put them at the beginning, or anywhere "in" the file. put them at the end.
[16:59] <CkhiKuzad> ("in" meaning within other text)
[16:59] <daniel__> Does anyone know how to fix the nvidia drivers only letting me have 320x240 or 640x480 resolutions?
[16:59] <kay_> "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[17:00] <daniel__> Yes, install them.
[17:00] <kay_> there is no driver listed
[17:00] <daniel__> I am running nvidia geforce 8400 here.
[17:00] <kay_> is there a termial code?
[17:00] <Pici> !who
[17:00] <yoyoned> daniel__: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[17:00] <daniel__> apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:01] <daniel__> I think so yoyoned
[17:01] <CkhiKuzad> hm..
[17:01] <CkhiKuzad> !tab
[17:01] <gogu> CkhiKuzad, i pasted the lines and saved and closed the file. should i restart? because the IBus app is still prompting to add the lines
[17:01] <kay_> @daniel dont kow
[17:01] <daniel__> Going to the nvidia settings or the monitor only shows 2 resolutions available.
[17:02] <CkhiKuzad> gogu, i'm not sure, but restarting should work
[17:02] <kh_maxim> How to install InnoDB in Ubuntu?
[17:02] <daniel__> This monitor, in WIndows can go as high as 2048x1536
[17:02] <gogu> CkhiKuzad, ok. will get back 2 u after restarting. thanks a lot
[17:02] <CkhiKuzad> no problem
[17:03] <daniel__> I am running a KVM.  Could that be a problem?
[17:03] <howdoi> i have a number of plasmoids running (i can see then 'ticked' when i filter 'running' in the widget adder) and I cant see them on the daskboard nor any workspace nor desktop... whats the best way to kill them off?
[17:04] <CkhiKuzad> daniel__ KVM meaning that your login manager is KDM, or that your desktop environment is KDE?
[17:04] <daniel__> Oh.  SOrry.
[17:04] <daniel__> I am running a switcher called a KVM
[17:04] <Pici> howdoi: #kubuntu would be the best place to ask that question.
[17:05] <Pici> CkhiKuzad: He means a keyboard/video/mouse input switcher.
[17:05] <re182> ffs, why is it so hard to dualboot lucid and xp on two seperate harddrives?]
[17:05] <daniel__> Yes
[17:05] <howdoi> pici thanks
[17:05] <Nastya> hi there!
[17:05] <daniel__> Thank you Pici
[17:05] <Nastya> please advise an MSN client
[17:06] <re182> I have xp as the master drive, and ubuntu as the secondary. during setup ubuntu asked me if i wanted to install grub...i said yes, and now on startup i get this error: fd0 cannot get c/h/s values
[17:06] <daniel__> brb
[17:06] <CkhiKuzad> Nastya: Empathy if you are in 10.04 or Pidgin in anything below it.
[17:06] <kh_maxim> How to install InnoDB in Ubuntu?
[17:06] <Daekdroom> Where can I find a compatibility list of netbooks/laptops?
[17:06] <Daekdroom> I been searching the wiki and couldn't find it
[17:06] <Pici> !hcl | would be a good place to start Daekdroom
[17:07] <BluesKaj> re182, open the console and do , sudo update-grub
[17:07] <re182> open the console where
[17:07] <re182> it says unknown command "sudo"
[17:07] <re182> all i see is grub rescue, then a prompt
[17:08] <arand> re182: Boot a liveCD.
[17:08] <r000t> My machine just locked up
[17:08] <BluesKaj> re182, look for console in applications
[17:08] <r000t> Just locked..... It rebooted OK but unexpectedly the whole thing froze
[17:09] <re182> do i need internet for the livecd grub update? because i don't have it on the computer i am trying to dualboot.
[17:09] <arand> re182: YOu don't
[17:09] <cschamber> have slight problem i cant shutdown because im getting mirrior images of my time date and name on top right of screen, some one told me how to clear it up before but i just reinstalled and need help clearing it up again
[17:09] <arand> !grub | re182
[17:09] <r000t> Eliotn: PLEASE tell me the NWS is switching to Linux
[17:10] <dahud_> I have switched from Gnome to KDE on my 10.04 Ubuntu installation.  What do I need to remove to eradicate gnome from my system?
[17:10] <LLLLL> Problem with Nero Linux. I converted the avi to ISO with Devede, than used Nero Linux DVD-Video format to burn. It will not succeed without using a Audio_TS ... Video_TS
[17:10] <redballoon> heya guys, can anyone recommend a good linux alternative to flash?
[17:10] <LLLLL> Why is this?
[17:10] <dahud_> nope
[17:10] <BluesKaj> !pure kde | dahud_,
[17:11] <redballoon> I mean, the web developing thing, not the player
[17:11] <re182> okay, so updating grub should fix it?
[17:11] <r000t> redballon: There are many flash packages for Ubuntu
[17:11] <dahud_> BluesKaj: Is that a command?
[17:11] <re182> I have two drives, sda1 is XP and sdb1 is ubuntu. I installed XP first, and then ubuntu. updating grub will fix the MBR and let me boot both?
[17:11] <redballoon> dahud_, that's the bot
[17:11] <cschamber> need help clearing up my time/date and name in top right corner of my gnome screen, i am running ubuntu 10.04
[17:11] <BluesKaj> !purekde | dahud_,
[17:11] <redballoon> r000t, for flash development?
[17:12] <Pici> cschamber: You mean getting rid of it?
[17:12] <r000t> redballon: oooohhhhh... Have you tried running Flash in WINE?
[17:12] <r000t> I did that with the old macromedia Trial and it worked OK
[17:12] <arand> re182: If you need to do the "update-grub" command, the "3 - Chroot" instructions from here would be neccessary: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[17:12] <r000t> Not sure how the adobe products would fare
[17:12] <cschamber> well its mirrioring its self
[17:12] <BluesKaj> dahud_, you should be asking about kde at #kubuntu
[17:12] <cschamber> and cant get to the shut down menu becasue of it
[17:13] <arand> re182: Otherwise, Method 1 there should suffice (grub-install --root-directory=...)
[17:13] <luist_> hey i need help... i cant update my system i get this error: The upgrade needs a total of 19.9M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 2,449k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[17:13] <cschamber> Pici, some one gave me a command before and it cleared it up, it was somthing i needed to shut down for some reason
[17:14] <cannonfodder> hey you guys....everytime i edit something in my www directory, i have to use sudo  ...how do i remove this? id like to be able to edit things without having to always use sudo
[17:14] <r000t> So when I log in (logging is fine, once I get to my desktop, this is a problem) any keyboards attached to the system stop working. The only way to get a key to show up is if I hold it down for half a second. Unplugging and plugging in a keyboard makes it work again. Where do I report this?
[17:14] <cannonfodder> hey you guys....everytime i edit something in my www directory, i have to use sudo  ...how do i remove this? id like to be able to edit things without having to always use sudo
[17:14] <Pici> cschamber: Was it something to reset your panels to default?
[17:14] <redballoon> r000t, well I'll give it a try. my dad stole my desktop with windows. so linux is where I'm stuck :p
[17:14] <r000t> canonfodder sudo chown -R (your username) (directory)
[17:14] <redballoon> not that I mind too much
[17:14] <cannonfodder> thanks
[17:14] <arand> luist_: if you run "df -h" how much is missing on your /boot ?
[17:14] <r000t> That command was my best friend last year when making WoW work in WINE
[17:15] <cschamber> i really dont rember, but we can try that pici
[17:15] <luist_> arand, 17M free... 81% used
[17:15] <Pici> !resetpanels | cschamber
[17:15] <luist_> arand, can i just delete the files from older boot options?
[17:15] <arand> luist_: Do you have a lot of old kernel versions installed?
[17:15] <luist_> arand, yes
[17:15] <arand> luist_: Do it via the package manager instead
[17:16] <luist_> arand, ok
[17:16] <arand> luist_: Or possibly computer-janitor, but be careful there to only remove things that are safe.
[17:17] <r000t> I think the keyboard drivers have a regression. Recently, after logging in, keyboards stop working (keys aren't recognized until they are held down for half a second) until they are unplugged and plugged back in.
[17:17] <luist_> arand, how can i do it via package manger?
[17:17] <private_meta> When I try to view flash videos in firefox (ubuntu 10.04), for a lot of flash video players (e.g. engadget video, old youtube player) I cannot click any button on/in the flash video, so I can't start, stop, ... them. Any Idea what I can do there?
[17:18] <r000t> What Flash package are you using?
[17:18] <abhi_nav> private_meta, same problem. here. tell me when you solved it. ;)
[17:18] <re182> with the grub chroot thing
[17:18] <Matrice64> yeah I had that problem before
[17:18] <re182> do i mount the ubuntu (secondary) drive? or the windows (primary) drive?
[17:19] <r000t> re182: LiveCD?
[17:19] <private_meta> abhi_nav: Thanks, at least it's not the usual "Well, it's me, so of course it breaks"
[17:19] <r000t> re182: or WUBI?
[17:19] <arand> luist_: as far as packages gi you'll likely want to remove linux-image-<version number>-generic, linux-headers-<version number> AND linux-headers-<version number>-generic.
[17:19] <abhi_nav> private_meta, ok
[17:20] <private_meta> abhi_nav: (meaning: good that at least someone else has the problem too ;))
[17:20] <arand> luist_: If you have linux-backports-modules-something installed you might want to remove the version-specific of that one to.
[17:20] <cschamber> no that didnt work pici
[17:20] <abhi_nav> private_meta, :)
[17:20] <arand> luist_: Make Sure you don't remove the kernel currently being used!
[17:20] <re182> what do you mean
[17:20] <re182> i'm using a livecd to access linux right now
[17:20] <Matrice64> private_meta:  you can try uninstalling and reinstalling the flashplugin
[17:20] <re182> because ubuntu has fucked my computer royally
[17:20] <arand> luist_: (you can find that using "uname -a")
[17:20] <luist_> arand, i know -.-
[17:21] <Pici> !language | re182
[17:21] <r000t> re182: Can you see it under My Computer?
[17:21] <re182> my apologies
[17:21] <re182> see what?
[17:21] <ubutom> hey malikeye|123 ,no, I don'T really remember, it was about the cpu tray applet wasn'T it? glad it's faster now :)
[17:21] <r000t> The drike
[17:21] <r000t> drive*
[17:21] <Pici> cschamber: Hmm.. let me check one thing.
[17:21] <private_meta> Matrice64: Last time I tried that didn't really work
[17:21] <re182> *what* drive?
[17:21] <re182> I can see all drives
[17:21] <r000t> You wanted to mount your windows partition
[17:21] <elb0w`> IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE UBUNTU RUNLEVEL IN A FILE
[17:21] <cschamber> no prob ill be here
[17:21] <re182> No, I want to dualboot. with two seperate HDDs.
[17:21] <re182> it sounds easy enough
[17:22] <re182> but it proving to be impossible
[17:22] <r000t> With GRUB, it is
[17:22] <re182> WINDOWS is my MAIN, Ubuntu is my seconary
[17:22] <re182> do i need grub on the windows drive? or the ubuntu drive?
[17:22] <skeeter101> re182:  do u have two seperate drives?
[17:22] <r000t> Then you still need to use GRUB.
[17:22] <eddy> hello
[17:22] <abhi_nav> private_meta, do you have noscript installed?
[17:22] <re182> when i follow the chroot instructions, do i mount the drive with UBUNTU on it, or WINDOWS
[17:22] <r000t> You use GRUB on your master drive and tell it to point at x partition on the secondary
[17:22] <skeeter101> r000t is correct
[17:22] <r000t> that will chainload it to Windows bootloader which will proceed to boot to windows
[17:22] <daniel__> Back
[17:23] <davide_> ciao
[17:23] <re182> do i need to make a seperate partiton on the ubuntu drive then?
[17:23] <Pici> elb0w`: I believe  that you were already told that ubuntu's runelevels are all treated the same, so we don't use runlevels to determine which services should start at boot. What are you trying to do exactly?
[17:23] <re182> or can i use the existing partitions
[17:23] <daniel__> How do I fix the resolution problem with the nvidia drivers installed?
[17:23] <r000t> re182: hang for a second... imma find you the GRUB guide
[17:23] <re182> i have sdb1, sdb2, sdb5.
[17:23] <re182> I've been following the grub guide, it's vague.
[17:23] <daniel__> If anyone can help please message me.
[17:23] <skeeter101> re182:  do u have two seperate drives?
[17:23] <jiason> tvtime-scanner
[17:23] <re182> skeeter101: yes.
[17:23] <jiason> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:23] <jiason> Reading configuration from /home/jiason/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:23] <jiason> Scanning using TV standard PAL.
[17:23] <jiason> videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: 无效的参数
[17:23] <FloodBot3> jiason: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <jiason>     Your capture card driver: em28xx [Gadmei UTV310//1]
[17:24] <r000t> it sounds like you need to do is make sure the primary (what the computer boots to) is running Ubuntu so you don't futz with the Windows bootloader
[17:24] <Pici> cschamber: Hm.. Sorry, I don't know what to suggest.  Perhaps someone else has a soltuon.
[17:24] <elb0w`> Pici, I want to reboot into just a terminal. No xserver
[17:24] <cschamber> no prob ill ask around
[17:24] <elb0w`> I can only edit files as xserver is causing my machine to stop loading
[17:24] <elb0w`> I am using a live cd
[17:24] <r000t> So if it's not, you either need to switch them around on the boot order or in the case.
[17:24] <jiason> tvtime-scanner
[17:24] <jiason> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:24] <jiason> Reading configuration from /home/jiason/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:24] <jiason> Scanning using TV standard PAL.
[17:24] <jiason> videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: 无效的参数
[17:24] <jiason>     Your capture card driver: em28xx [Gadmei UTV310//1]
[17:24] <FloodBot3> jiason: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <r000t> I thought +q was channel owner
[17:25] <abhi_nav> private_meta, you there?
[17:25] <Pici> !modes | r000t
[17:25] <daniel__> Does anyone use nvidia drivers?
[17:26] <r000t> huh.
[17:26] <parth_> has anybody used python-keyring module before i have been having an issue with it?
[17:26] <Pici> elb0w`: You should be able to   chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm   to stop gdm from loading.
[17:26] <cschamber> can some one help me please, i have an overlapping mirror image of my date and name on the top right side of my gnome screen, and cant access my shutdown menu,
[17:26] <Pici> jiason: Please use a pastebin if you are trying to share an error with us.
[17:26] <elb0w`> Pici, or I can create a /etc/inittab and no have ubuntu act so different
[17:26] <r000t> re182 you still here?
[17:26] <elb0w`> as stated in rc-sysinit.conf
[17:27] <at3560k> Is there a way to use DHCP, continue to use the provided DNS, but configure openDNS as an alternate/failover DNS server if the DHCP provided DNS seems a bit flakey?
[17:27] <re182> r000t: yes....
[17:27] <re182> last night i had ubuntu has my primary
[17:27] <daniel__> My resolution with the nvidia drivers installed is 640x480.  Can I fix that or do I need to avoid the drivers?
[17:27] <at3560k> without...appending to resolv.conf every time my network scripts run?
[17:27] <re182> then i was told dualbooting was impossible without windows as the master
[17:27] <Pici> elb0w`: I haven't done that myself so I'm unsure if it will work.
[17:27] <re182> people are telling me different things, it's really bugging me
[17:27] <jiason> tvtime-scanner
[17:27] <jiason> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:27] <jiason> Reading configuration from
[17:28] <jiason> tvtime-scanner
[17:28] <jiason> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:28] <jiason> Reading configuration from /home/jiason/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[17:28] <jiason> Scanning using TV standard PAL.
[17:28] <jiason> videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: 无效的参数
[17:28] <FloodBot3> jiason: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <re182> i ran update grub on sdb1.... it found my linux image, and my windows image on sda1
[17:28] <r000t> Well then I'll explain each change before we go through with this...
[17:28] <re182> jiason: USE PASTEBIN
[17:28] <RyanP> at3560k, is it sufficient to have the provided DNS as the first entry, then openDNS as the second?
[17:28] <thalib> hey man i lost u
[17:28] <daniel__> Where can I go to get this problem fixed?
[17:29] <r000t> First we will make sure Ubuntu is the primary boot drive, so that your computer boots to it first. Next we will figure out what GRUB you are using. Last, we will figure out what partition your Windows is on and tell GRUB to add an entry for that drive and partition.
[17:29] <at3560k> RyanP: that's in fact--preferred.  The local DNS server has a few entries in the LAN that I would like to use from time to time...but...as it's not stable or always responsive...if it fails into openDNS... oh well :D
[17:29] <cbam> i need some help regarding openvpn ipconfig-pool
[17:29] <r000t> On the boot side, GRUB will boot first, and if you select Windows, it will "pass the torch" onto the Windows bootloader.
[17:30] <r000t> It won't boot to Windows per se, that's Windows' bootloader's job.
[17:30] <r000t> With me so far?
[17:30] <re182> yes
[17:30] <r000t> Okay
[17:30] <cschamber> can someone help me please, i have an overlapping mirrior image of my date and my name on the top right side of my gnome screen, and due to the over lapping mirror image i cant access my shutdown options, ummm kinda got to hurry cause i have to go some place
[17:30] <r000t> So which hard drive does your computer boot to first?
[17:30] <r000t> Also, and this is important, do you have a second computer you can be on in case something bad happens?
[17:30] <daniel__> Does anyone know how to fix the nvidia drivers only letting me have 320x240 or 640x480 resolutions?
[17:30] <r000t> GRUB is awesome but sometimes it gets moody
[17:31] <re182> Yes, i am on the second one.
[17:31] <r000t> OK
[17:31] <re182> GRUB is awesome, but i'm really really irritated at this point.
[17:31] <r000t> What state is the main machine in?
[17:31] <binarious> Hi there! Why can't I see notifications from Gwibber?  I was in your EXACT situation last august
[17:31] <RyanP> at3560k, Oh, wait, you're wanting to configure this on the specific machine, not the dhcp server, right?
[17:31] <at3560k> Yeah...don't control the dhcp server
[17:31] <r000t> I still believe I use Ubuntu due to the stockholm effect
[17:31] <cbam> can anyone help me on openvpn configs?
[17:31] <thalib> i updated the kerner and updated the grub but it doesnt show
[17:31] <thalib> where am i going wrong
[17:31] <at3560k> (Or the nameserver in question that doesn't like to reply all the time)
[17:32] <r000t> Well... there are two paths, Windows and GRUB, and I've found that it's just easier to deal with GRUB instead of finding the right tool edit your boot.ini
[17:32] <ubutom> r000t, re182 another way to dualboot, not that comfortable, but still working would be to leave each os as it is and choose the hdd at bootup, many mainboards have a feature to boot from a specific drive, I cloned my win7 installation and left my ubuntu on another hdd and can boot them seperately via boot menu on startup :D well, gonna reorganize the new hd anyway, only a temporary thing
[17:32] <trism> binarious: by default, gwibber in lucid will only display notifications for mentions (unlike previous versions), if that is what you mean. You can disable that in the preferences and get notifications for everything
[17:33] <daniel__> I am shutting down Crudbuntu and try again later to see if anyone can help.
[17:33] <ubutom> r000t, agreed, editing win menu is a pain, even with bcdedit
[17:33] <thune3> cschamber: can you post a screenshot, to make it clearer what is happening?
[17:33] <sunrise> hello, is it possible to test a windows file.exe with ubuntu with bfbtester ? ty
[17:33] <grifo74> i cant run screenlets in ubuntu 10.04?????
[17:33] <r000t> That works too, and if your comptuer does not have an optionf or that, you cna always request a boot menu every time
[17:33] <LLLLL> Problem with Nero Linux. I converted the avi to ISO with Devede, than used Nero Linux DVD-Video format to burn. It will not succeed without using a Audio_TS ... Video_TS. Why is this???
[17:33] <binarious> trism: Where can I disable this Restriction
[17:33] <at3560k> RyanP, correct.  Want to set it on the host.  I Don't control the dhcp/dns system
[17:34] <binarious> trism: just found it
[17:34] <binarious> thanks!
[17:34] <r000t> Even better, decide what your main OS will be, set it to default boot, and only have to request a boot menu when you want ot use the other.
[17:34] <grifo74> sorry is gdesklets
[17:34] <RyanP> at3560k, Well, if you edit /etc/resolv.conf and have the dhcp provided nameserver first and the openDNS one second, it'll check them in order. Except that resolv.conf will get overwritten when you reboot. The package resolveconf might do what you want.
[17:35] <r000t> Now if you want to go the GRUB way, we need to make sure that the computer default boots to the Ubuntu drive
[17:35] <re182> well let me open my computer up and switch the drives
[17:36] <ziro`> how do i add this to my sources.list
[17:36] <ziro`> ppa:brianmercer/php
[17:36] <tucemiux> anybody uses KVM? I'm trying to find out what host OS people use to run KVM
[17:36] <Pici> at3560k, RyanP: Modifiying /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf with the 'prepend domain-name-servers' option (there should be an example commented out) with your dns servers will make sure that it will always be added to resolve.conf when you get a dhcp address.
[17:36] <Runar> Hey, does anyone want a trip to Norway? Cause I really need some help with installing Java :/
[17:36] <JackLinux> Hey, could anyone help me with installing Asus USB-N13 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:37] <vu1kan> !java