[09:17] <dr_willis> !info torrentflux
[09:18] <dr_willis> cant say that ive ever used that one
[09:19] <legendsohai> anybody can tell me why my ddclient will not be run in the memory even after i typed " sudo ddclient ", but the host ip addresses in dyndns will change. So how can I make it to run as daemon and will not stopped auto. Mine ddclient is get from dyndns website.
[09:20] <dr_willis> sounds to me like its a  'it runs does the changes and exts' kind of app.
[09:20] <dr_willis> legendsohai,  you could make it a cron job and have it run every 5 min or so
[09:22] <legendsohai> dr_willis, appreciate for your help. But can you teach me how i can use cron? Sry because im actually not so understand in cron's manual.
[09:23] <dr_willis> legendsohai,  cron has 1000's of guides/sites online that detail its ussage.. i havent used it much in ages
[09:23] <dr_willis> !cron
[09:23] <pc04_> hi
[09:23] <dr_willis> just rember to give the FULL PATH to commands ran  by cron and you shouldnet have too much of a problem
[09:23] <legendsohai> dr_willis, thx
[09:23] <pc04_> hi
[09:24] <dr_willis> !hi
[09:24] <mordof> if i do sudo vigr, how do i edit the file...
[09:24] <mordof> every time i try to type it gives odd characters
[09:24] <dr_willis>  sudo vigr ?
[09:24] <dr_willis> hmm
[09:24] <dr_willis> !info vigr
[09:24] <pc04_> hi
[09:25] <mordof> dr_willis: brings up a list of the groups, and the users in them
[09:25] <ziroday> pc04_: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:25] <mordof> i need to add myself to a group
[09:25] <dr_willis> mordof,  i just normally use those groupadd commands
[09:25] <Flannel> mordof: sudo adduser user group
[09:26] <dr_willis> sudo virg works here...
[09:26] <mordof> Flannel: that'd create a new user wouldn't it?
[09:26] <Morder> !info virg
[09:26] <Morder> oops
[09:26] <Flannel> mordof: nope. that adds the user to the group
[09:26] <Morder> !info vnc
[09:26] <pc04_> oops
[09:26] <mordof> Flannel: i just used that command to make a new user
[09:27] <Flannel> mordof: Correct.  It does both.
[09:27] <jim_p> haxxor question #2: how can i delete the first 10 characters of every line inside a text file? feel free to suggest the app yourself!
[09:27] <Flannel> mordof: `adduser user` creates a user, `adduser user group` adds user to group.  see man adduser for details, etc.
[09:27] <mordof> kk
[09:28] <dr_willis> jim_p,  sed is designed for that sort of work.
[09:28] <jim_p> dr_willis: and how will i do that?
[09:29] <dr_willis> jim_p,  i would start by reading the sed docs..  its a very powerfull tool.. deleteing 10 lines shoudl be fairly trivial.. then its  cat file | sed 'correct sed options
[09:30] <jim_p> dr_willis: its not 10 lines only. its the first 10 characters fromeach line of a ~50 line file
[09:30] <ViennaL> whats this autofs for / ubuntu is using? i cant update packages because its limiting my avail. space
[09:30] <dr_willis> jim_p,  sed can read a file, then do a edit on each line of that file..  thats  what it was designed to do.. it could do it to a 10 line file or a<PHONE_NUMBER>000000000000000 line file.
[09:31] <dr_willis> jim_p,  i also recall a 'cut/paste' command from years ago that could do a similer task.
[09:31] <rww> jim_p: sed 's/^.\{10\}//g' filename
[09:31] <dr_willis>  cut - remove sections from each line of files
[09:31] <rww> jim_p: I found that on google, but it looks right (and non-damaging)
[09:31] <dr_willis> rww,  i was thinking of 'd' for delete.. :) your fancier!
[09:32] <jim_p> ViennaL: autofs is the "daemon" that automounts your usb stick at a constant folder every time you plug it in. otherwise you would have to mount -t vfat ....
[09:32] <jim_p> rww, dr_willis thanks
[09:33] <rww> jim_p: short explanation: s/something/something else/g replaces something with something else (g is some option; case sensitive or something, I forget); ^.{10} matches 10 characters (.) at the start of the line (^). The random \ are to escape things so bash doesn't mess the command up.
[09:33] <alisoviy> hello!
[09:33] <jim_p> :O
[09:33] <dr_willis> rww,  your Regrexp-Fu is strong !
[09:34] <jim_p> lmao
[09:34] <roxan> !welcome | alisoviy
[09:34] <alisoviy> can anybody tell me how to boot Ubuntu Desktop Edition 8.04 with LEGACY IDE Support?
[09:34]  * rww laughs
[09:34] <dr_willis> !libata
[09:34] <dr_willis> Hmm theres a factoid on that
[09:35] <rocme_> hi
[09:35] <ViennaL> jim_p: okay but it was in the fstab this way ... wait ..
[09:35] <rocme_> i have a problem with an ubuntu vmware guest:
[09:35] <Orbixx-eee> How do I get special characters, like one would use "alt codes" to get in Windows?
[09:35] <jim_p> rocme_: tell us!
[09:35] <rocme_> I'm trying to set the keyboard layout to german (de-latin)
[09:36] <ViennaL> jim_p: ohh .. it got updated with the newest 8.10 updates okay ... sorry
[09:36] <jim_p> Orbixx-eee: gnome-character-map will tell you
[09:36] <jim_p> tomorrow is the big day?
[09:36] <rocme_> i have to say I use ubuntu 8.04 SERVER
[09:36] <rocme_> so there is no X to configure :)
[09:36] <Flannel> jim_p: #ubuntu-release-party, not here, thanks.
[09:36] <jim_p> rocme_: locales?
[09:37] <bimberi> rocme_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:37] <jim_p> Flannel: lol i didnt know there was a channel for this
[09:37] <rocme_> I installed console-data - it seemed to work - but after an reboot there was the same probs :(
[09:37] <rocme_> ok, thx ... I'll try that!
[09:38] <hotmonkeyluv> i'm so tired
[09:38] <hotmonkeyluv> need sleep
[09:38] <rww> !sleep
[09:38] <rww> ;-)
[09:38] <hackercompany> can any one help me !!!!
[09:38] <hotmonkeyluv> no
[09:39] <rww> !ask | hackercompany
[09:39] <Myrtti> !anyone | hackercompany
[09:39] <Myrtti> hotmonkeyluv: please keep offtopic and idle chatter somewhere else, this is the Ubuntu support channel
[09:39] <ViennaL> I'm having a real bad problem on a linux box of one of my clients... i installed ubuntu 8.10 which comes with kde 4.1 i guess. After logging in the screen flickers every 3 seonds on/off. but kdm login works great and everything else to ... but u can hardly work because screen goes on and
[09:40] <ViennaL>                  off (LCD)
[09:40] <hackercompany> how to install lost ubuntu boot loader
[09:40] <ViennaL> was it that bad that i installed 8.10 rc ?
[09:40] <Flannel> !grub | hackercompany, first link
[09:40] <rww> ViennaL: support for 8.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <bimberi> !grub | hackercompany
[09:40] <ViennaL> rww: thanks
[09:40] <rww> I feel sorry for hackercompany... keeps getting spammed by ubottu :(
[09:41] <roxan> ViennaL, you need to reconfigure x
[09:41] <ViennaL> roxan: okay but why is the login manager working
[09:41] <wartalker> in 8.10, my sound card has no sound, but the driver seem ok, why
[09:41] <ViennaL> roxan: with same resolution and freq i gues
[09:41] <rww> wartalker: support for 8.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <ViennaL> roxan: the xorg.conf is really plain ...
[09:42] <hackercompany> thanks all for the help
[09:42] <wartalker> rww: sorry, i forget
[09:42] <Ohmu> Can anyone help me? I don't have a DVD drive.  I want to install Vista.  I already have Ubuntu?  (I need Vista for a couple of things that I cant do in Ubuntu).  I've copied my VistaCD's contents into /home/me/vista.  How can I get grub to boot into it as if these files were on the DVD?  NOTE: It's NOT a CDROM image.  It's just the files that were on the DVD.  Surely it must be possible to fool the box into seeing a HDD partition as a boot-DVD?  Please help i
[09:42] <Ohmu> n #grub if you can?
[09:46] <adi> hi
[09:46] <maniheer> hi adi
[09:47] <adi> hi
[09:47] <Orbixx-eee> How do I get special characters, like one would use "alt codes" to get in Windows?
[09:48] <Glitch> !hello adi
[09:48] <Glitch> !hello | adi
[09:48] <roxan> ViennaL, becaule it uses differenet resolution
[09:48] <Glitch> !hello | ubottu
[09:48] <adi> hshasidfc
[09:48] <Glitch> !spam | adi
[09:48] <twizzled> Boooooooooom!
[09:48] <scientus_> how do i turn a auto-update on server like on desktop
[09:48] <maniheer> !hi | Glitch
[09:48] <Glitch> !hi | maniheer
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:48] <dr_willis> Ohmu,   grub just dosent boot arbitary code like that. The #windows guys may know a work around.. You might be able to create a bootable thumbdrive
[09:49] <roxan> !8.10 | wartalker
[09:49] <rww> roxan: I told wartalker that already. He has, in fact, since left the channel :P
[09:49] <maniheer> Orbixx-eee, there is a way by using the compose key
[09:50] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." "~$ lspci; 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)" Is snd_intel8x0 this ALSA driver? modinfo snd_intel8x0 does not answer this question.
[09:50] <maniheer> i dont remember how exactly
[09:50] <Orbixx-eee> maniheer: The compose key?
[09:50] <Bruners> Hi, I have dualbooted Ubuntu and Vista for some time, but I have now reinstalled Vista and it obviously removed grub from loading, anyone fancy helping me getting it back? I am now running from a livecd
[09:50] <Flannel> !grub | Bruners, first link
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601516
[09:51] <Bruners> Flannel: already did that, Vista booted up with no grub showing
[09:52] <Flannel> Bruners: then you didn't do that properly.
[09:52] <znh> Hello folks.
[09:52] <maniheer> Orbixx-eee, http://www.debianadmin.com/special-characters-made-easier-in-ubuntu.html
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Bruners: if you do it right then grub will load
[09:52] <Flannel> Bruners: did you put grub on the right harddrive? (the one where your BIOS boots to?)
[09:52] <znh> I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 but my resolution can't be set higher than 800x600, while I used to have 1024x786. I don't need propertiary drivers. I checked that, any ideas?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> znh: what graphics card does lspci say you ave?
[09:53] <dr_willis> znh,  what videocard, montitor, kind of connection, as ryou using a KVM switch?>
[09:53] <roxan> rww, i am having bad internet :(
[09:53] <znh> no kvm switch just laptop. It's a Toshiba Trident CyberBlade XP
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> znh: is that what lspci says it is?
[09:53] <Bruners> Flannel: going to check that
[09:53] <znh> ActionParsnip, yes
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> znh: can you paste me the line to speed up my search please
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> znh: seems decent enough
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-211937.html
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> znh: theres a decent xorg.conf you can pull bits out of there
[09:56] <Ors> Hi there, I have uninstalled Evolution since I prefer TB, but it still appears in Applications.  How can I get rid of it?
[09:56] <neeto> Is there something extra I might have to do to enable UPnP? I have several applications that use UPnP, my router has it enabled, but there are never any leases taken... is there something I am missing? Please help.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Ors: edit the menu ad remove the item
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !upnp
[09:56] <neeto> Sweet, thanks.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> np
[09:57] <Ors> ActionParsip: I do not have that option!
[09:57] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I cannot see how  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601516 solves my problem.
[09:57] <Ors> ActionParsnip: I do not have that option!
[09:57] <Glitch> does anyone know of a good pokemon save-file editor for ubuntu?
[09:57] <Bruners> Flannel: was the wrong harddrive :)
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: read the post, top entry contains alink to http://goesping.org/archives/2006/05/13/ubuntu-sound-on-gateway-laptop/
[09:58] <SpinachHead> does ubuntu have an official song?
[09:58] <dr_willis> Glitch,  if one exists for linux, it should work for ubuntu.
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: depends what system the games are running on
[09:59] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I read http://goesping.org/archives/2006/05/13/ubuntu-sound-on-gateway-laptop/ before I asked. What section there do you refer to?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Ors: try right clicking the item you want to remove
[09:59] <Glitch> I know of a pokemon save-file editor for windows but not linux
[09:59] <Glitch> i need one for ubuntu/linux
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: it seems to be a step by step guide, does it not fly?
[09:59] <erki> Glitch: You could try running it in Wine
[09:59] <erki> !wine | Glitch
[09:59] <rww> SpinachHead: nope, but there are ideas (of questionable quality) at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5389/
[10:00] <Ors> ActionParsnip: I only have the following options: add to panel, add to menu, and in full menu 2 options to add
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: if its for an emulator then there are some out there
[10:00] <Glitch> how much does wine cost?
[10:00] <rww> Glitch: it's free
[10:00] <erki> Glitch: It's free software
[10:00] <Glitch> oh ok
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Ors: i dont use metacity soim not hte best guys to ask
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: its open source just like ubuntu
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: therefore zero cash needed
[10:01] <Glitch> does anyone know how i can use ubuntu to find an apt?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> find an apt?
[10:01] <Glitch> yes
[10:01] <rww> Ors: You want to remove Evolution from your ubuntu Applications menu, right?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: what is an apt?
[10:01] <Glitch> im connected to the intrnet
[10:02] <Glitch> i need to be able to get an apt, but i dont know how to do it on ubuntu, there is no internet explorer
[10:02] <Ohmu> Can someone recommend which out of vmware, virtualbox, qemu I should use?  I want to create a virtual XP and a virtual Vista from my UbuntuBox.  ( need to use the speech recognition app )
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: what is an "apt"
[10:02] <Ors> rww: Yes indeed
[10:02] <Glitch> apartment
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: wrong channel
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Glitch
[10:03] <Glitch> i dont know how to find an apartment using the internet on ubunu
[10:03] <Glitch> how do i do that there is no internet explorer
[10:03] <rww> Ors: go to System -> Preferences -> Main Menu, then go to "Internet" on the left hand side, and click the checkbox by "Evolution Mail" on the right hand side
[10:03] <soreau> Glitch: Internet Explorer is one of the great downfalls of windoze
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: i use vmware but all are fine
[10:03] <riz0n> Glitch: open Firefox and then go to Google.com
[10:03] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I do not need a step-by-step guide. (Or at least not now.) My question was: " Is snd_intel8x0 this ALSA driver?"
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Glitch: you can use firefox, opera or the multitude of web browsers available in linux
[10:03] <rww> Ors: clearing the checkbox there will remove it from your main menu
[10:03] <soreau> riz0n: (speaking for everyone I think) Thanks ;)
[10:04] <rocme_> Ohmu, I'm running an XP with virtualbox at the moment - it runs perfectly :) but I can't tell anything about vista :(
[10:04] <rww> Ors: you should also be able to remove some package to remove it, but I forget which one, and this way is quicker :)
[10:04] <soreau> Er, Flannel :P
[10:04] <Glitch3> i need a web browser
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> rocme_: i can tell you its garbage
[10:04] <riz0n> lol no problem, can you say, "Please step away from the keyboard."
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Glitch3: try tping firefox in a terminal
[10:04] <soreau> Glitch3: Firefox
[10:04] <madmurx> hi! i want to do a remote desktop connection from PC1 to PC2. both connectet to the internet over a gateway.  i have a server with a static ip address. i think i have to  forward the ports over ssh connections. but i have no idea how to start the server part...  a tunnel with one know ip would be no problem.... can someone give me a hint?
[10:04] <Ors> rww: Thanks a lot, it worked as I wanted
[10:04] <rww> Glitch3: Applications -> Internet -> Firefox
[10:04] <rocme_> ActionParsnip, hehe
[10:05] <soreau> Glitch3: Internet Explorer is a virus port hole for windoze pc's
[10:05] <riz0n> I think its amazing
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> soreau: you can get viri via firefox
[10:05] <Glitch3> hi. what is the difference between gentoo and debian?
[10:06] <metaltux> hello. How long is the "lifespan" on ubuntu?
[10:06] <SpinachHead> does firefox crash for anyone when say using some flash content?
[10:06] <soreau> lol
[10:06] <Frogzoo> Glitch3: gentoo is a source distro - you have to compile _everything_ it sux
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Glitch3: gentoo is compiled from source using emerge and takes a god while to setup but makes a very honed system
[10:06] <SpinachHead> everytime I try to listen to ilike flash songs it crashes firefox
[10:06] <soreau> Flannel: Does this happen often in this channel? ugh
[10:06] <riz0n> You think someone that can figure out how to get on IRC and make it to Ubuntu's support channel could figure out how to surf the web.. :\
[10:06] <Flannel> metaltux: Each regular version is supported for 18 months, LTS versions (8.04) is supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: flah isnt installed right thn
[10:07] <Flannel> soreau: not really.  Release is coming up, it's like a full moon.
[10:07] <SpinachHead> i followed the wiki...
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: you on 64bit?
[10:07] <SpinachHead> 32
[10:07] <metaltux> thank's Flannel
[10:07] <soreau> Flannel: Gah, I almost completely forgot about the release .. tomorrow
[10:07] <SpinachHead> its just the ilike thingy in facebook that does it
[10:07] <SpinachHead> app
[10:07] <rww> SpinachHead: I think riz0nwas talking about Glitch, not you :)
[10:08] <darius12> anybody else having issues with nm-applet not showing?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: uninstall flash and hit up a site with flash like www.rathergood.com/blode2 and it will be offered to you
[10:08] <rthealien>  /msg iSLiFECORP invite dt30tzj4thj3iuze
[10:08] <darius12> it is running, the notification area is there, but still I can't see its icon
[10:09] <darius12> this is with latest intrepid
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | darius12
[10:10] <darius12> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[10:10] <SpinachHead> okay, just to make sure, checking synaptic i have flashpulgin-nonfree installed and not adobe-flashplugin. would that be the problem?
[10:11] <soreau> I guess it's a pretty fine line between here and #ubuntu+1.. It'll be like new years in here tomorrow ;)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: no idea, i only have flashplugin-nonfree and nspluginwrapper (64bit here) and flash works flawlessly
[10:11] <dr_willis> soreau,  yea - i make it a point to NOT come here for a few days  after a new release..
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> soreau: yeah i know, gonna grab it after release
[10:11] <dr_willis> soreau,  too hectic
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: snap ;)
[10:12] <SpinachHead> hmmm, okay Ill uninstall and see what the browser installs
[10:12] <rww> soreau: on the plus side, one less tab in pidgin, so I can follow conversations easier. On the minus side, it's crazy in here O_O
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: you can dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[10:13] <soreau> dr_willis: ActionParsnip: rww: The only time I come here is for release dates or new years, just to watch all the bumming spammers get kicked sad to say :P
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> soreau: new years im nursing my hangover
[10:13] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Ok, I meant new years eve
[10:13] <Glitch> lol bitch
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> oh new years eve im working on getting the hangover
[10:14] <madmurx> hi! i want to do a remote desktop connection from PC1 to PC2. both connectet to the internet over a gateway.  i have a server with a static ip address. i think i have to  forward the ports over ssh connections. but i have no idea how to start the server part...  a tunnel with one know ip would be no problem.... can someone give me a hint?
[10:14] <madmurx> hi! i want to do a remote desktop connection from PC1 to PC2. both connectet to the internet over a gateway.  i have a SERVER with a static ip address. something like PC1 - sshconnection -> SERVER (forwards from PC1 to PC2) <- sshconnection - PC2. i think i have to  forward the ports over ssh connections. but i have no idea how to start the server part...  a tunnel with one known ip would be no problem.... can someone give me a hint?
[10:14] <Glitch> you cant keep me out
[10:14] <soreau> Glitch: You're not making much progress
[10:14] <Glitch> i love how it's trendy on this network for the ops to 'hide'
[10:14] <Glitch> really cute
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> madmurx: port forward port 22 on the router to the internel ip of the ssh server and install openssh-server
[10:14] <Glitch> oh yeah, and to force part rather than kick
[10:15] <SpinachHead> yeah, it just reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree
[10:15] <soreau> SpinachHead: What's wrong?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> SpinachHead: does www.rathergood.com/blode2 work?
[10:16] <madmurx> ActionParnsip, i cant do any portforwarding on the gateways
[10:16] <Glitch> if you think you can keep me out, think again. i can always change my nick and ident and host.
[10:16] <Equiuma> kjk
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> madmurx: then you are stuck
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> madmurx: it may be called virtual server
[10:16] <danish> reaching on root command
[10:16] <danish> some1 tell me
[10:16] <Kate432> Hello , i need help please , when i press on "network" i can see the names of all the computers connected in my local network how i can find the ip of each computer ?
[10:16] <_coredump_> aloha
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> danish: please rephrase
[10:17] <madmurx> hi! i want to do a remote desktop connection from PC1 to PC2. both connectet to the internet over a gateway (without any possibility to do portforwarding there).  i have a SERVER with a static ip address. something like PC1 - sshconnection -> SERVER (forwards from PC1 to PC2) <- sshconnection - PC2. i think i have to  forward the ports over ssh connections. but i have no idea how to start the server part...  a tunnel with one known ip would be
[10:17] <madmurx> no problem.... can someone give me a hint?
[10:17] <Flannel> !repeat | madmurx
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> madmurx: please stop flooding
[10:17] <maniheer> Glitch is a bitch
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> madmurx: jump into the config of your router and grab your manual
[10:17] <danish> ActionParsnip:  i want to reach on root command in terminal wat i type
[10:17] <maniheer> Glitch is a BITCH
[10:17] <Flannel> maniheer: Don't
[10:17] <Glitch> lol
[10:17] <maniheer> alright
[10:17] <rww> !sudo | danish
[10:17] <Glitch> i like that maniheer
[10:17] <bazhang> maniheer, watch the language please
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> danish: sudo <whatever command you want>
[10:18] <Newbie_> dfd
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> danish: you dont need root, just sudo or gksudo (for gui apps) all you want
[10:18] <slwl> MPD,error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused,plase give me a hand!
[10:18] <maniheer> Flannel, hes gonna keep coming back
[10:19] <Myrtti> maniheer: we sorta know
[10:19] <Myrtti> maniheer: be quiet
[10:19] <hateball> Hmmm, is there some kind of applet for Vinagre?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> slwl: have you allowed the traffic in security for mpd and maybe your firewall
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !vinagre
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !info vinagre
[10:19] <crdlb> hateball: what would it do?
[10:20] <hateball> crdlb» Like a gnome-panel applet, like the TSClient applet for instance
[10:20] <hateball> So  that you could launch a "bookmarked" VNC session, from the panel
[10:20] <danish> i cannat reach on my root command in terminal
[10:21] <crdlb> hateball: ah, there is one, at least here on gentoo
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> hateball: you could make a bash script and add that
[10:21] <bazhang> danish, use sudo
[10:21] <danish> how
[10:21] <kenois> I'm having this weird issue with conky, when i start it with "sessions" it overlaps my top panel and it is always positioned above all other windows, when i start it from the terminal it functions as it should, any ideas as to what could be the issue here?
[10:21] <bazhang> !sudo | danish
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> danish: in terminal, type sudo then whatever command you like, it will be ran as root
[10:22] <rww> danish: type sudo yourcommandhere. So, if you wanted to run fdisk as root, you'd type sudo fdisk.
[10:22] <danish> ok thanxs
[10:22] <maniheer> danish, sudo xterm
[10:23] <crdlb> hateball: it's new in 2.24 it seems, which means intrepid
[10:23] <Gabriel> #ubuntu-es
[10:23] <parmis> سلام
[10:24] <bazhang> !en | parmis
[10:24] <maniheer> !danish
[10:24] <bazhang> parmis, use english here
[10:24] <parmis> ok
[10:24] <Flannel> !ir | parmis
[10:24] <danish> wat mr maniheer
[10:24] <parmis> hi
[10:24] <parmis> mersi
[10:24] <maniheer> !danish
[10:24] <bazhang> maniheer, /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[10:25] <hateball> ActionParsnip» Yeah I could, but I havent figured out how to use the gnome-panel drawers to also display text, rather than only icons
[10:25] <lionhwxm> hi
[10:25] <dian> priyo
[10:26] <hateball> crdlb» Ah... I'll just wait a day or upgrade now then.. Thanks :D
[10:26] <aperson> anyone have experience with psybnc and xchat?
[10:26] <Gabriel> /join #kubuntu-es
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> aperson: most do, ask your question
[10:27] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. My wireless stopped working on my Ubuntu 8.10 installation, and when I tried the Fedora 9 Live CD (which previously had support for my wireless card) it also did not work. The wireless card is still visible when I run lspci.
[10:27] <aperson> I can't seem to figure out how to connect to multiple servers
[10:27] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that tphilosopher
[10:27] <rww> tphilosopher: 8.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <tphilosopher> Does this mean it is a hardware problem?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> aperson: ive not used it in that fashion, i know pidgin can
[10:28] <jim_p> tphilosopher: is it inside lspci?
[10:28] <tphilosopher> jim_p: Yup.
[10:28] <jim_p> tphilosopher: ooops. ok then what is it?
[10:28] <aperson> ActionParsnip, but alas, I don't like pidgin for irc
[10:28] <tphilosopher> jim_p: It fails to detect any networks at all.
[10:29] <Gabriel> /join #kubuntu-es
[10:29] <humbolt> what is SCIM for, this thing annoys the hell out of me!
[10:29] <jim_p> tphilosopher: i mean, what is the line of the card in lspci?
[10:29] <bazhang> humbolt, asian languages
[10:29] <jim_p> !tz
[10:29] <jim_p> !tzdata
[10:29] <tphilosopher> jim_p: Realtek 8185. It worked out of the box on Ubuntu 8.10 beta and then stopped working. I tried Ndiswrapper but that also failed to work.
[10:29] <bazhang> !ibex | tphilosopher
[10:29] <bazhang> ubuntu+1 for that tphilosopher
[10:29] <jim_p> tphilosopher: give me some time to think. i guess its some module again
[10:30] <tphilosopher> bazhang: This is probably NOT a problem with Ubuntu as it does not work in Fedora 9 anymore. I think it's probably a hardware problem. If it is, can anyone suggest a cheap (and I mean really cheap) wireless card that Ubuntu has support for?
[10:31] <bazhang> tphilosopher, try the hardware channel or ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <jim_p> tphilosopher: in 8.04 were you using ndiswrapper to make it work?
[10:31] <lionhwxm> ubuntu8.04 cant reboot on my laptop,why
[10:31] <rww> tphilosopher: I have that wireless chipset too, and have had problems with it. Even when it did work, it'd randomly disconnect and have major slowdowns. Thankfully, I'm somewhere with wired ethernet now, so I don't need it. But yeah, it's a pain to get working.
[10:31] <tphilosopher> jim_p: Yes, I was. But that was unnecessary in 8.10 beta.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> tphilosopher: make sure you get the right xp driver
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> tphilosopher: try getting rstricted drivers and full updates over a wired connection
[10:32] <Serenella> ciao a tutti ho ubuntu 8.04 e come software per virtualizzare uso VIRTUALBOX <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:32] <tphilosopher> ActionParsnip: Tried that. Also tried a driver I know works with Ndiswrapper. It still fails to detect networks.
[10:32] <Serenella> vorrei sapere se con vbox è possibile virtualizzare MAC OS
[10:32] <legend2440> !it
[10:33] <soreau> Serenella: I don't think so, try the ubuntu support channel for your language
[10:34] <patryk_> hello why i can;t install this theme http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Reuben-GTK-52670621
[10:34] <tphilosopher> It has stopped detecting networks out of the box on Fedora 9, Ubuntu 8.10 and using the Ndiswrapper driver. I think it's beat. :(
[10:34] <jim_p> tphilosopher: please give me a sec
[10:35] <tphilosopher> jim_p: No problem.
[10:37] <tphilosopher> patryk_: "You will need the pixmap engine and mist engine." Do you have both of those?
[10:37] <hackercompany1> form where can I get vmware for ubuntu??????
[10:38] <dr_willis> hackercompany1,  vmware web site has some downloads or check the vmware wiki page
[10:38] <dr_willis> !vmware
[10:40] <BobB> Anyone have an apt repository for Java3d?
[10:43] <hackercompany1> yah tell it to me
[10:43] <hackercompany1> what is the problem
[10:43] <ikonia> hackercompany1: what's up
[10:43] <jim_p> tphilosopher: are you still there? they decided to make a kernel module finally!
[10:44] <tphilosopher> jim_p: And that means it should be supported?
[10:44] <ikonia> #/mode -b dafblackred!*@*
[10:44] <jim_p> tphilosopher: try      sudo modprobe rtl8185
[10:45] <jim_p> tphilosopher: yes, natively supported by the kernel
[10:45] <jim_p> tphilosopher: do you get any error?
[10:46] <floyd> please help
[10:46] <floyd> honestly i know im restarded
[10:46] <jim_p> tphilosopher: i am sure you will get because of the wrong name of the module
[10:46] <floyd> but i cant seem to remove torrent flux
[10:46] <floyd> its aparently running right now on my system
[10:46] <floyd> but i dont know where
[10:46] <dr_willis> floyd,  and what was the pacqkage name you installed?
[10:46] <floyd> i tryed to remove it in synaptic
[10:46] <jim_p> floyd: killall torrentflux
[10:46] <floyd> but it doesnt work
[10:47] <floyd> ummmm its called torrentflux
[10:47] <jim_p> floyd: is it a torrent client or sometjhing?
[10:47] <dr_willis> if its  a service.. you could kill  the service
[10:47] <alexandre> bonjour quil parle francais
[10:47] <floyd> but its running somewhere on my computer and i dont know where
[10:47] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove torrentflux   should remove it.
[10:47] <floyd> correct
[10:47] <floyd> no window appears
[10:47] <Svenswe> hey
[10:47] <dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/WHATEVER stop   should stop it if its a service
[10:47] <jim_p> Guest18074: tous dans #ubuntu-fr :P
[10:47] <floyd> it just shows up from time to time asking me to configure it and it never works
[10:47] <dr_willis> 'shows up where' ?
[10:48] <dustofdust> hi
[10:48] <floyd> so i should be able to go into synaptic and just click remove right
[10:48] <floyd> but it just shows a box with a x in it
[10:48] <Svenswe> can someone help me, i cant boot from my ubuntu CD
[10:48] <floyd> mark for complete removal?
[10:48] <dr_willis> floyd,  or use that command line I just gave you 'sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME'
[10:48] <dr_willis> complete removal is also good
[10:49] <dustofdust> can not install ubuntu because how do i mount a disk
[10:49] <floyd> thanks
[10:49] <jim_p> Svenswe: did you burn it properly? did the iso pass the md5sum?
[10:49] <Svenswe> yeah
[10:49] <Svenswe> well, i'm switching from windows
[10:49] <Noxx|tired> Hi, I have some questions about install ubuntu on my laptop
[10:49] <jim_p> tphilosopher: are you there?
[10:49] <floyd> package name i type in torrentflux???
[10:49] <Noxx|tired> On my desktop all OK
[10:50] <floyd> floyd@floyd-laptop:~$ 'sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME'
[10:50] <floyd> bash: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME: command not found
[10:50] <floyd> floyd@floyd-laptop:~$
[10:50] <Svenswe> I made the CD properly, quite sure of that
[10:50] <tphilosopher> jim_p: Just turned on the laptop... and the wireless is working. Without me actually doing anything at all!
[10:51] <jim_p> floyd: lmao              sudo apt-get remove torrentflux
[10:51] <floyd> lol thanks
[10:51] <Svenswe> someone help?
[10:51] <Noxx|tired> How can I install ubuntu on my laptop with ATI radeon HD3470
[10:51] <floyd> floyd@floyd-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove torrentflux
[10:51] <floyd> [sudo] password for floyd:
[10:51] <floyd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:51] <floyd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:51] <floyd> floyd@floyd-laptop:~$
[10:51] <dustofdust> how do i mount a disk while i use the ubuntu bootdisk, so i can save my data from c. than to install ubuntu on c and import the data of d
[10:51] <FloodBot2> floyd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <floyd> sorry to bother u again
[10:51] <jim_p> tphilosopher: can you please tell me the module it uses?
[10:51] <jim_p> floyd: close synaptic first doh
[10:51] <tphilosopher> In saying that - sudo modprobe rtl8185 - returns a "FATAL: Module rtl8185 not found"
[10:52] <floyd> thank you
[10:52] <jim_p> Svenswe: the cd has some option "check cd for defects"
[10:52] <Svenswe> how do I do that?
[10:52] <dustofdust> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /etc/mtab
[10:52] <dustofdust> mount: only root can do that
[10:52] <Svenswe> I burned it myself
[10:52] <Noxx|tired> WHo can help - please PM.
[10:52] <jim_p> Svenswe: do you get to the cd menu?
[10:52] <benny1> can i install ubuntu on my 2g usb drive ?
[10:52] <Noxx|tired> I can not install any video driver
[10:52] <Noxx|tired> Any Xsever
[10:53] <Svenswe> No, when I reboot my computer it just goes to windows
[10:53] <jim_p> Noxx|tired: me! pm me!
[10:53] <tphilosopher> jim_p: How do I find out what module it uses?
[10:53] <bazhang> !usb | benny1
[10:53] <jim_p> Svenswe: then the pc is not configured to boot from the cd!!!!
[10:53] <bob1> I need some help as well, i have installed an ati driver for my ati card, but when i adjust the settings for it in the ati catalyst and reboot the settings do not stay and revert back on boot
[10:53] <jim_p> tphilosopher: lsmod | grep rtl                                    pm me the output because its loads of lins
[10:53] <Svenswe> jim_p: but i changed the boot order so that the CD was 1st priority
[10:53] <dian> priyo
[10:54] <ay^> Svenswe: did you change boot priority in the bios?
[10:54] <ay^> d'oh
[10:54] <Svenswe> jim_p: i think so
[10:54] <tphilosopher> Brb.
[10:54] <compton> what's the quickest way to share files between windows and ubuntu over the network (without making copies)?
[10:54] <jim_p> Svenswe: please check. if it says "Booting from cdrom...." waits there and continues to xp, then its a cd disk problem
[10:54] <Svenswe> yeah
[10:54] <iyk_iri> hi evryone, who is running virtual box successfully on ubuntu
[10:55] <compton> !filesharing
[10:55] <jim_p> compton: samba
[10:55] <compton> !samba
[10:55] <ay^> iyk_iri: me
[10:55] <tphilosopher1> jim_p: lsmod | grep "rtl"
[10:55] <tphilosopher1> rtl8180                36352  0
[10:55] <tphilosopher1> mac80211              216820  1 rtl8180
[10:55] <tphilosopher1> eeprom_93cx6           10240  1 rtl8180
[10:55] <tphilosopher1> cfg80211               32392  2 rtl8180,mac80211
[10:55] <FloodBot2> tphilosopher1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <Svenswe> jim_p: it never says booting from CD, I tried telling it manually to boot from CD but it said it wasn't found
[10:55] <iyk_iri> i cant start the virtual pc i created, it kept demanding for some modules and i have installed they already
[10:55] <jim_p> tphilosopher1: thanks a lot!!!
[10:56] <tphilosopher1> jim_p: No problem. :)
[10:56] <ay^> iyk_iri: I'm afraid I can't help you tho, try some virtualbox channel och forum or google
[10:56] <jim_p> Svenswe: can you please verify that cd rom is the 1st boot device?
[10:56] <jim_p> iyk_iri: can you repeat the question?
[10:56] <compton> jim_p, I'd rather use something that doesn't use windows filesharing
[10:57] <ay^> Svenswe: some manufacturers have wicked evil settings in bios, that overrides the settings you make inthe bios
[10:57] <iyk_iri> ay: hw did u get urs to work, i actually installed mine via the add remove program
[10:57] <Svenswe> ay^: well how do i fix that?
[10:57] <ay^> iyk_iri: I installed the modules from aptitude
[10:57] <jim_p> compton: nfs but you will need extra programs on xp for it
[10:57] <ay^> Svenswe: there should be another way of setting boot priority, like a second after the screen that tells you to press del for bios
[10:58] <Svenswe> ay^:my computers a dell, on XP btw
[10:58] <znh> Hello folks.
[10:58] <znh> I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 but my resolution can't be set higher than 800x600, while I used to have 1024x786. I don't need propertiary drivers. I checked that, any ideas?
[10:58] <ay^> at least thats how it works on my fathers acer-something It dosn't care what I put in the bios, I have to choose from a second menu something like "F12 for boot order"
[10:58] <madmurx> hi! i want to do a remote desktop connection from PC1 to PC2. both connectet to the internet over a gateway (without any possibility to do portforwarding there).  i have a SERVER with a static ip address. something like PC1 - sshconnection -> SERVER (forwards from PC1 to PC2) <- sshconnection - PC2. i think i have to  forward the ports over ssh connections. but i have no idea how to start the server part...  a tunnel with one known ip would be
[10:58] <madmurx> no problem.... can someone give me a hint?
[10:58] <Svenswe> ay^: after the screen for bios it just goes to a blank screen with a dashing line, then to windows
[10:59] <jim_p> brb
[10:59] <ay^> hum, whats you model.no?
[10:59] <jim_p> Svenswe: verify booting thing
[10:59] <compton> jim_p, can I treat files on an ftp server as standard files?
[10:59] <cdavis> intrepid won't be a LTS release will it?
[10:59] <legend2440> znh: try  gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[10:59] <Svenswe> jim_p: it should be at the top, with a "1" beside it right?
[10:59] <ay^> cdavis: noo
[11:00] <compton> jim_p, mount the ftp server  somehow
[11:00] <jim_p> Svenswe: depending on the mobo and its bios, but generally yes
[11:00] <jim_p> compton: you cant mount an ftp share!
[11:00] <Gabriel> /join #kubuntu-es
[11:01] <Svenswe> jim_p: IF I have two CD drives, which  one should it be in? (i have tried both but does it make a difference?)
[11:01] <tphilosopher1> Thanks guys. See ya!
[11:01] <mtozses_> hello
[11:02] <bob1> hi i could use some help with ati catalyst, when i adjust settings in it and save them, if i reboot the settings are lost..how can i fix this?
[11:02] <jim_p> Svenswe: well... change the drive then. or place the order like    cd1, cd2, hdd
[11:02] <mtozses_> my OS never recognizes USB devices. why?
[11:02] <Svenswe> jim_p: but only one CD drive shows up in the boot order
[11:02] <rski> broken usb ports?
[11:02] <megazocker> Hello i want to check an nfs share because i have problems that the mountpoint has lost sometimes, so is there a way to check this in a logfile or so ?
[11:02] <legend2440> bob1: what settings you trying to set?
[11:03] <bob1> Im trying to set the resolution and refresh rate settings, i click apply, then ok to close it out
[11:03] <jim_p> Svenswe: what bout the other ? is it broken? i am sure there will be some option about their order
[11:03] <bob1> it works for the time being, but as soon as i reboot the settings go to default
[11:03] <Svenswe> jim_p: Only one shows up on the boot order but normally they both work
[11:04] <legend2440> bob1: use   gksudo displayconfig-gtk in terminal instead
[11:04] <Svenswe> jim_p: I set the one that shows up as the first priority
[11:05] <bob1> ok, i entered that in terminal what does it do?
[11:05] <Svenswe> jim_p: is there any way to check what BIOS I have?
[11:05] <skringla> hello I am having some trouble with proftpd any one good with init.d scripts?
[11:05] <jim_p> Svenswe: put the disk in the other drive. and yes, if you get inside the bios
[11:05] <panmeng> new user
[11:05] <panmeng> hello
[11:06] <legend2440> bob1: a program didnt pop up?
[11:06] <panmeng> who is chinese
[11:06] <bob1> No it asked for my password and that was it
[11:06] <Flannel> !cn | panmeng
[11:06] <legend2440> bob1: are you using intrepid?
[11:06] <Svenswe> jim_p: I tried booting with the CD in both drives, but neither worked, is there a way to check which drive the BIOS refers to?
[11:06] <bob1> Yes
[11:06] <bazhang> !cn | panmeng
[11:07] <jim_p> Svenswe: well... if you could tell me the model of the mobo, i can look its manual
[11:07] <Svenswe> jim_p: ones a Dvd drive and the other a DVD-RW
[11:07] <Svenswe> jim_p: wait, "mobo"?
[11:07] <legend2440> bob1: oh  they discontinued that package in intrepid
[11:07] <Svenswe> jim_p: what does that mean?
[11:07] <jim_p> Svenswe: motherboard
[11:07] <bob1> oh, is there something else i could do
[11:07] <Svenswe> ah ok
[11:07] <bob1> It works fine, i just dont understand why it doesnt stay saved lol
[11:07] <kebab> At the login screen you can chose different GTK themes, but the theme resets to the default next time you see it. How can I make the theme change persist?
[11:07] <Svenswe> jim_p: ok how do i check that
[11:08] <jim_p> Svenswe: tell me about the manifacturer of the laptop
[11:08] <legend2440> bob1:  the reason catalyst doesnt save settings is that it doesnt have permissins to save them.  for example xorg.cong requires root permissions to be written to
[11:08] <Svenswe> jim_p: its a desktop
[11:09] <bob1> how would i give the catalyst permissions to save the settings?
[11:09] <iyk_iri> pls how do i install a download .tar.gz pacakage from terminal
[11:09] <Svenswe> jim_p: sec
[11:09] <legend2440> !fixres | bob1  support for intrepid is channel  #ubuntu+1
[11:09] <Svenswe> jim_p: its a dell
[11:10] <bob1> Thanks for all your help
[11:10] <Svenswe> jim_p: pentium processor
[11:10] <Svenswe> jim_p: uuuh#
[11:10] <jim_p> Svenswe: model of it? it is written under the laptop
[11:10] <perforate> summor
[11:10] <Svenswe> jim_p: its a desktop
[11:10] <Svenswe> jim_p: but dimension 8400
[11:10] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[11:10] <Svenswe> jim_p: is the model
[11:11] <luismi> uhh
[11:11] <piasdom> what's the new ubuntu...i have 8.04
[11:11] <Svenswe> jim_p: wait, nder "hardware" it lists 4 cd-rom drives
[11:11] <Svenswe> jim_p: but I only have 2
[11:11] <rski> piasdom: not released yet
[11:11] <rski> !release
[11:12] <piasdom> rski:thanks
[11:12] <jim_p> Svenswe: are you on windows now?
[11:12] <Svenswe> sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision))yeah
[11:12] <piasdom> thanks the one that will be released on the 30th ?
[11:12] <Svenswe> i mean
[11:12] <Svenswe> jim_p:yeah
[11:12] <jim_p> Svenswe: are you using daemon tools or a similar app?
[11:13] <Svenswe> jim_p:yes
[11:13] <Svenswe> jim_p:I should close that, shouldn't I
[11:13] <jim_p> Svenswe: dont close it, disable the drives!
[11:14] <Svenswe> jim_p:how do I disable them?
[11:14] <Svenswe> jim_p:wait, maybe it's not open
[11:14] <badfish69> is there a way to recursively chown?
[11:14] <Svenswe> jim_p:I cant see daemontolls in the system tray
[11:15] <jim_p> Svenswe: i dont know i dont use it
[11:15] <badfish69> nvm
[11:15] <badfish69> capital R
[11:15] <dr_willis> Deamontrolls?   IT is haloween allready :)
[11:15] <murtaza> hey
[11:15] <murtaza> hello
[11:16] <Svenswe> jim_p: ok I dont think it's open
[11:16] <Svenswe> jim_p: i checked the proccess list and its not there
[11:17] <floyd> can i make avant start with ubuntu when i logon
[11:17] <Svenswe> jim_p: my first IRC chat, sorry
[11:18] <Vinnonet> Anyone using awesome window manager 3?
[11:18] <dr_willis> floyd,  gnome has some session manager settings/tools you can make it auto start things.
[11:18] <Svenswe> jim_p:so should I go into BIOS and check which one it is?
[11:18] <dr_willis> !sessions
[11:18] <dr_willis> !autostart
[11:18] <floyd> thank u
[11:18] <floyd> ummm can u give me a example of one specifically by name
[11:19] <fiyawerx> Vinnonet, a lot of people in #archlinux do I know of
[11:20] <tARrAScH> Why is the automatic update icon, sometime a red arrow pointing down, and sometimes a orange edge-bubble ?
[11:22] <TheFuzzball> Does anyone else get a BusyBox terminal when booting 8.10 RC1?
[11:22] <milo> buon dì!
[11:22] <jrib> TheFuzzball: #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid
[11:22] <TheFuzzball> k
[11:22] <milo> c'è nessuno???
[11:23] <tARrAScH> milo, what Language do you speak ?
[11:23] <legend2440> tARrAScH: red arrow means security updates are available  round orange means regular package updates
[11:23] <tARrAScH> legend2440: Thanks :D
[11:23] <milo> I speack italian
[11:24] <TANATHOS> milo try ubuntu-it instead
[11:24] <tARrAScH> !it
[11:24] <milo> grazie
[11:25] <shani> .part bye friends
[11:25] <compton> jim_p, you're wrong, it was easy to mount my ftp server :)
[11:25] <tanto_> my laptop failed to hibernate, how to check.
[11:25] <bullgard4> Wie heißt die zu dem Quelltext 'GNOME-CD player' ../gnome/gnome-media-2.22.0/gnome-cd/gnome-cd.c zugehörige ausführbare Datei?
[11:26] <Lead[Work]> !de
[11:26] <jrib> bullgard4: english?
[11:26] <jim_p> compton: how did you mount it :| ?
[11:26] <RUMMY> I can't send mails via evolution, error is not supported STARTTLS
[11:26] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know where i can pick up some cool visual effects for my desktop
[11:26] <jrib> !ccsm | Dorobo18jp
[11:26] <bullgard4> jrib: What is the filename of the executable file associated to 'GNOME-CD player' ../gnome/gnome-media-2.22.0/gnome-cd/gnome-cd.c?
[11:27] <shani> `part wrong chan
[11:27] <aoeuoeuoeu> @Dorobo18jp I'd recommend: http://ubuntusatanic.org/installation.php
[11:27] <jrib> bullgard4: I don't know what 'GNOME-CD player' is.  If it is an item in your menu, right click on the ubuntu menu icon, then go to the properties of the item
[11:27] <dr_willis> Ick. :P
[11:28] <rdz> hi all. i am on nvidia and used nvidia-settings to configure internal and external screen to be cloned. however, with the new configuration, it only see one mode: 1680x1050. how can i switch to a lower resolution? or how can i add more modes?
[11:28] <Dorobo18jp> what is the command in terminal to download simple-ccsm ?
[11:28] <jrib> !apt > Dorobo18jp
[11:29] <bullgard4> jrib: 'GNOME-CD player' is its own description of the source code ../gnome/gnome-media-2.22.0/gnome-cd/gnome-cd.c
[11:31] <belkinhelp2> hey, this isnt exactly an Ubuntu question
[11:31] <belkinhelp2> but where can i find IRC help with wireless networking with dd-wrt
[11:31] <belkinhelp2> virtual interfaces
[11:32] <jrib> belkinhelp2: ##dd-wrt
[11:33] <nitin> how to upgrade ubuntu if i have an internet connection that restarts every hour and download in one 1 hr is not even an option
[11:33] <belkinhelp2> jrib...thanks
[11:33] <jrib> nitin: the upgrade should just resume where it left off
[11:33] <belkinhelp2> jrib...what about a channel that works with wireless networking in general?
[11:33] <belkinhelp2> seems no one is at home in dd-wrt
[11:33] <anita_> with cd alternate cd
[11:33] <jrib> belkinhelp2: there are 91 people there
[11:33] <dr_willis> nitin,  you can tell the  package manager to 'just download' the updates also.. and do it a few times till they are all done
[11:34] <belkinhelp2> jrib...im one of the 91
[11:34] <legend2440> belkinhelp2: #wireless
[11:34] <belkinhelp2> legend...thanks
[11:34] <nitin> ok
[11:35] <nitin> so i open synaptic and do it from there?
[11:37] <Ubuntwo>  I am an #shellhell service BOT (advanced seen, statistics & protection). In order to execute 100 percent of my potentiality I must have OP status on channel (add me, please, to your bnc autoop /addautoop #ubuntu :*!i=shani@unaffiliated/unafilliate) - otherwise, conforming to #shellhell rules & terms - I will part the chan in less than 24 hours http://starbots.info.
[11:37] <jrib> what the...
[11:37] <DarkSpirit> errr ill ask again it cant hurt anyone know any programs to help u start programs automatically with ubuntu
[11:37] <jrib> Ubuntwo: no public speaking bots in this channel
[11:38] <DarkSpirit> i know im a pain in the ass
[11:38] <jrib> DarkSpirit: start automatically when you login?
[11:38] <DarkSpirit> correct
[11:38] <jrib> !startup > DarkSpirit
[11:38] <DarkSpirit> like i want avant
[11:38] <rdz> hi all. how to add more modes to xorg.conf? or: why are they ignored, when i added them?
[11:39] <DarkSpirit> thanks
[11:39] <DarkSpirit> guys
[11:40] <Grimreaper85> zomg ubuntu soon!
[11:40] <Grimreaper85> whos excited
[11:41] <jim_p> i am not! ati did nothing to make fglrx match xorg1.5 so...
[11:42] <legend2440> rdz: if you are using hardy   try  gksudo displayconfig-gtk and see if rez you need it there
[11:42] <tomatpureeee> hello
[11:42] <rdz> legend2440, thanks
[11:43] <rdz> legend2440, i did not completely understand you: what do you mean by 'if rez you need it there?
[11:43] <rdz> '
[11:43] <rdz> ah.. you mean: if it _is_ there
[11:44] <legend2440> is
[11:45] <alanbshepard77> I recently installed Ubuntu using LUKS so I could encrypt my Linux partitions. I've now been able to do away with my windows partition and would like to be able to use the extra storage within linux. How can I use the storage for/within my home dir and securely encrypt it?
[11:45] <rdz> displayconfig-gtk seems to reliably screw up xorg.conf
[11:47] <stever> i re-install gedit, but it still very slowly, how can i do?
[11:47] <jim_p> stever, use leafpad perhaps?
[11:48] <lfs> how can I monitor a directory or file to check if anyone accesses it?
[11:50] <dr_willis> !info fam
[11:50] <BOTSSL> dr_willis FAILED: you specified an invalid command/option - fam
[11:50] <FOSSL> dr_willis FAILED: you specified an invalid command/option - fam
[11:50] <shani> bitches
[11:50]  * dr_willis stares at the 2 bots that have snuck in
[11:51] <jrib> BOTSSL, FOSSL: no public speaking bots
[11:51] <dr_willis> lfs,  there may be other ways todo it. then by fam also...
[11:51] <shani> dr_willis : dont worry i am handling them they incidently got  in here
[11:51] <dr_willis> :)
[11:51] <jrib> ...
[11:51] <dr_willis> Stalker Bots!
[11:51] <shani> thanx jrib
[11:51] <Dorobo18jp> dr wills how do oyu get the 3 d cube desktop to work ?
[11:51] <Ethos> anyone installed ubuntu server in virtual pc?
[11:51] <Ethos> if so how :D
[11:52] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  very simple.. I dont.. i find it useless.. :)  to get it going you get compiz going, and enable the cube suff wiht the ccsm tool. and enable 4 desktops also.
[11:52] <root> haha
[11:52] <root> 有人没
[11:53] <Guest76515> ？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
[11:53] <Guest76515> 同志们好
[11:53] <flam> wtf?
[11:53] <basti> english only
[11:53] <jrib> !cn | Guest76515
[11:53] <Guest76515> enslish
[11:54] <Dorobo18jp> how can i type in a different language ?
[11:54] <Guest76515> english
[11:54] <dr_willis> engrish?
[11:54] <jim_p> Dorobo18jp: do you want to know in greek for instance?
[11:55] <strummula> !it
[11:55] <Dorobo18jp> i have friends that can only understand japanese so i would like to type messages to them in japanese
[11:55] <stever> anybody have ever used Tecent RTX under ubuntu?
[11:56] <jrib> Dorobo18jp: you might try the japanese channel if no one here knows.  I'm sure they can give you the details
[11:56] <jrib> !jp | Dorobo18jp
[11:57] <stever> nobody ?
[11:58] <legend2440> stever: what is Tecent RTX?
[11:58] <tanto_> my laptop failed to hibernate, how to solve.
[11:59] <stever> it's a chat tool, just like QQ
[12:00] <floyd> okay so i got avant to startup with ubuntu can u make it start so that the programs you added to it start with it aswell or is that not possible
[12:01] <zooopiehyd> Hello.....is there any software that can write on failed DVD's
[12:01] <ikonia> zooopiehyd: not really
[12:01] <ikonia> zooopiehyd: failed = damaged media
[12:02] <DarkSpirit> hmmm i didnt know that either
[12:02] <DarkSpirit> okay im going to restate the questoin for the hell of it i got avant starting with ubuntu can i have it start with the programs i added to it aswell
[12:02] <basti> DarkSpirit, just add a symlink to the autostart folder
[12:03] <DarkSpirit> hmmmmmmmm
[12:03] <zooopiehyd> ohh..i have some 6 DVD's that failed below 10% of the burn percent
[12:03] <bullgard4> Where has /usr/bin/gnome-cd from the DEB program package gnome-media in Gutsy gone in Hardy?
[12:03] <Guest76515> how to install wine?
[12:03] <jim_p> DarkSpirit: in System > Preferences > Sessions too?
[12:03] <zooopiehyd> actually the DVD came out suddenly out of the DVD R/RW drive
[12:03] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install wine Guest76515
[12:03] <DarkSpirit> okay so whats a symlink look like
[12:03] <DarkSpirit> right i did that already
[12:03] <DarkSpirit> it looks like this
[12:03] <jim_p> Guest76515: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:04] <DarkSpirit> avant-window-navigator
[12:04] <bazhang> !enter | DarkSpirit
[12:04] <basti> DarkSpirit, man ln
[12:04] <bullgard4> zooopiehyd: What do you mean by 'faied DVD's'?
[12:04] <DarkSpirit> lol okay sorry
[12:04] <bullgard4> zooopiehyd: What do you mean by 'failed DVD's'?
[12:04] <Guest76515> thankyou
[12:04] <jrib> DarkSpirit: why aren't you using Sessions to autostart programs?
[12:04] <bazhang> np
[12:04] <batcoder-7> what version of open office is in the repos ?
[12:04] <DarkSpirit> i am
[12:04] <zooopiehyd> those DVD's are written below 10% of the total burn...my LG writer suddenly opened during burning
[12:05] <DarkSpirit> i added it there but when it starts it doesnt start the apps
[12:05] <DarkSpirit> the apps that i have added to it
[12:05] <stever> maybe rtx really a bad tool, i can't find any resource in the network, here neither.
[12:05] <jrib> DarkSpirit: if by "it" you mean "after you login", then it should work
[12:05] <DarkSpirit> hmmmm okay
[12:05] <DarkSpirit> thanks
[12:05] <jrib> DarkSpirit: you need to add the apps you want to autostart, not just awn
[12:06] <zooopiehyd> bullgard4: My LG writer suddenly opened during burning..and all those dvd's are written less than 10% of their capacity
[12:06] <scientus_> how do i turn a auto-update on server like on desktop/j #xchat
[12:06] <floyd>  did work
[12:06] <floyd> it did work
[12:07] <floyd> thanks guys
[12:07] <jim_p> scientus_: you can use cron with a script that does the update
[12:07] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[12:07] <bazhang> 10/30 pawan
[12:08] <tanto_> my laptop failed to hibernate, how to check.
[12:08] <scientus_> 12 hours
[12:08] <runpain2> God Day All
[12:08] <scientus_> i want it now
[12:08] <scientus_> im on windows cause i didnt want to install the rc 2 days before
[12:08] <vi> hello
[12:09] <vi> where am i?
[12:09] <runpain2> I need help
[12:09] <Guest76515> how to deploy wine?
[12:09] <Guest76515> how to deploy wine?
[12:09] <Guest76515> how to deploy wine?
[12:09] <FloodBot2> Guest76515: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <runpain2> with this problem
[12:10] <bazhang> Guest76515, wine help in #winehq
[12:10] <jim_p> Guest76515: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:10] <clogged> im running ubuntu on vmware. it has worked fine for a long time but all the sudden internet stopped working and it installed a driver for my wireless card after that. ubuntu works fine besides that and internet worked fine for the 2-3 other times before that i used it with ubuntu.
[12:12] <mrichman> How can I make a static route persistent across reboots?
[12:13] <runpain2> When ever i go to a web site that has a radio player it shows it loading up yet it will not play sound of the web site "http://stream.nwrnetwork.com/KGLY"
[12:14] <runpain2> What can i use to play the link
[12:14] <rski> well
[12:14] <mrichman> runpain2: windows or a mac lol
[12:14] <mrichman> runpain2: thats WMA9
[12:14] <runpain2> I am using Ubuntu CE 8.04
[12:14] <rski> runpain2: if works right of the bat here
[12:14] <rski> with ubuntu 8.10
[12:15] <runpain2> Firefox is the browser
[12:15] <rski> with totem in firefox
[12:15] <miSS_bLUE> hgjg
[12:15] <Grimreaper85> ubuntu CE (Collectors edition) ???
[12:15] <runpain2> Christian Edition
[12:16] <web_knows> hi :)
[12:16] <runpain2> mrichman: please explain
[12:17] <mrichman> runpain2: that's windows media 9 ... you need the proper codec
[12:17] <miSS_bLUE> ffhg
[12:17] <|f|> when you click "install/remove programs" do you have to enter a super user password?
[12:18] <runpain2> How to get the proper codec
[12:18] <|f|> I'm asking because I'm helping this guy out and I dont remember :P
[12:18] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[12:18] <runpain2> thanks doc
[12:18] <dr_willis> runpain2,  :)
[12:18] <Grimreaper85> christian edition ? we all bow to the linux gods dont we ? :P
[12:18] <|f|> anyone?
[12:18] <clogged> im running ubuntu on vmware. it has worked fine for a long time but all the sudden internet stopped working and it installed a driver for my wireless card after that. ubuntu works fine besides that and internet worked fine for the 2-3 other times before that i used it with ubuntu.
[12:18] <dr_willis> runpain2,  you may want to inmstall the ubuntu-restricted-extras package also
[12:19] <dr_willis> |f|,  system wide tasks like that.. would requier the sudo users password.. yes
[12:19] <vi> apa kabar
[12:19] <runpain2> gona try that too
[12:19] <torgrim> clogged: are you briding the wireless for vmware? that dosent work very well
[12:19] <runpain2> Thanks again
[12:19] <|f|> dr_willis, always? so it is not package dependent?
[12:19] <clogged> briding?
[12:19] <dr_willis> |f|,  the tools are the same,  so it would require sudo acccess
[12:19] <|f|> dr_willis, ok thanks
[12:20] <clogged> im now uninstalling and reinstalling. in ubuntu on vmware not very stable? while i love it sofar for everything else this is the 2nd time in 3 days, very annoying. the first time it just stopped working. sad if i cant trust it.
[12:20] <dr_willis> |f|,  if a user wanted to install somthing just for themeslfs. they would not be using .deb packages.
[12:20] <dr_willis> clogged,  been running ubuntu on virtualbox just fine here over the last few weeks
[12:21] <mick02> Afternoon folks
[12:21] <predator363> anyone in?
[12:21] <mick02> Aye, I've just arrived
[12:21] <mick02> Seems pretty quiet in here
[12:22] <runpain2> How would i find  ubuntu-restricted-extras package and should i install all
[12:22] <dr_willis> runpain2,  its in the packages in the package manager
[12:22] <dr_willis> runpain2,  i always install it.. it grabs a lot of other pakcages you proberly want, java, flash, ms fonts,
[12:22] <runpain2> ok will look  i am new around here
[12:23] <bullgard4> Where has /usr/bin/gnome-cd from the DEB program package gnome-media in Gutsy gone in Hardy?
[12:23] <mick02> runpain2 Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:23] <MrNaz> if you've disabled hal polling on a device with hal-disable-polling how do you reenable it ?
[12:23] <MaxMala> clear
[12:23] <MaxMala> shit
[12:23] <igors> hi all..anybody knows how can i install subversion headers in ubuntu? is there any -dev package? because i can't find any in repos...
[12:23] <predator363> hiya wine chat is empty any one versed well with wine an wanna help me solve a problem with soulstorm saying im missing dlls?
[12:24] <spirit3> Hey all, does the daily build and latest RC of 8.10 have a serious USB issue?
[12:24] <nachi_> hello all! hey , i have a dilma about installing ubuntu. my ubuntu currpeted, and i want to install it, what do u think? wait till tommorw and install ubuntu 8.10 final (and hope it will work well without bugs), or install 7.10 and wait like 30 days and then upgrade to 8.10 final? ... thanks!
[12:24] <dr_willis> !8.10
[12:24] <damemay> helo i m french it s my first day in ubuntu comunauty
[12:24] <damemay> please can you give me a french adres
[12:25] <Dregin> damemay: http://www.ubuntu.fr/
[12:25] <bullgard4> damemay: #ubuntu-fr
[12:25] <DistroJockey> nachi_, I'd wait and install a nice fresh 8.10
[12:25] <cara> is it safe to upgrade from hardy to intrepid via apt?
[12:25] <damemay> thank you a lot
[12:25] <runpain2> Its already checked
[12:26] <Dregin> fresh install ftw
[12:26] <bullgard4> !fr damemay
[12:26] <Dregin> any messing ya did with configs in the previous install might not work so well in the new one
[12:26]  * DistroJockey agrees with Dregin
[12:26] <runpain2> the package is all ready checked
[12:26] <damemay> degrin bullgrad4
[12:26] <damemay> my problem it smy levelin english
[12:27] <tanto_> my pc failed to hibernate, how to check.
[12:27] <Pici> !fr | damemay
[12:27] <runpain2> mick02 the package is all ready checked
[12:27] <cara> tanto_: how to check what?
[12:27] <bullgard4> tanto_: Check the maessages in dmesg.
[12:27] <joel`> I'm having a little problem with the dig command, I have changed the zone records in my dns server,
[12:27] <joel`> but when I run dig, it shows me old data..
[12:27] <joel`> anyone know what could be the reason?
[12:27] <tanto_> cara: check the trouble maker
[12:28] <mick02> runpain2 did you run sudo apt-get update
[12:28] <gibbyg> I have a question if somebody is able to help(also never used IRC before so:P)
[12:28] <damemay> have a nice day
[12:28] <RUMMY> I have enabled remote desktop connection, but I don't want remote clients send me their keyboard and pointer events
[12:28] <runpain2> no mick02
[12:29] <runpain2> doing it now
[12:29] <mick02> Run that from the command line then once that is finished then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:29] <bullgard4> Wohin ist /usr/bin/gnome-cd aus dem DEB-Programmpaket gnome-media in Gutsy gegangen in Hardy?
[12:29] <mick02> runpain2 Run that from the command line then once that is finished then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:30] <cara> lol @ german (I think?)
[12:30] <mick02> RUMMY what do you mean?
[12:30] <Oprtz> hello there, i  just attach HP 845c printer with ubuntu 8.04, how to install it and work under ubuntu? thanks
[12:30] <tanto_> bullgard: just dmesg, which line?
[12:30] <dr_willis> RUMMY,  uncheck the 'allow others to controll' check box then
[12:30] <runpain2> done
[12:30] <mick02> RUMMY You want people to see your desktop without being able to control it?
[12:30] <RUMMY> thanks
[12:31] <gibbyg> I have set my graphics settings to nothing special(some effects) on Ubuntu 8.04 and when I restarted(as instructed) I log on and then when it usually goes to the desktop, my monitor goes black and tells me the it does not support the Mode Ubuntu wants to display. Is there a way to changing back to the old default settings?
[12:31] <mick02> runpain2 now you should be able to install packages that are listed in the restricted repositories
[12:31] <mrichman> How do I make ssh server start on bootup?
[12:31] <dr_willis> mrichman,  if you install the ssh service, it should do so.
[12:31] <runpain2> done
[12:31] <mrichman> dr_willis: i had to start it manually...how can i make sure?
[12:31] <cara> dpkg-reconfigure x11 ?
[12:32] <runpain2> still no sound with player
[12:32] <dr_willis> mrichman,  on the last 100+ ubuntu installs ive done - its alwas added itself to startup as a service.. check your  sysv configs//etc/init.d and /etc/rc.## links  i guess.. or one of the sysv config tools
[12:32] <runpain2> mick02 still on sound
[12:33] <mrichman> dr_willis: ok thank you
[12:33] <cara> hehe its been a while
[12:33] <tanto_> ubuntu application for electronic circuit simulator.
[12:33] <bobbob1016> Anyone try this?  http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/  EEEControl, improves eeepc battery and things, but I'm not a fan of installing things that aren't from the repos.
[12:34] <runpain2> dr _willis
[12:34] <ziroday> bobbob1016: you can try in #ubuntu-eeepc and #eeepc, however that can break your hardware
[12:34] <ziroday> bobbob1016: they EEEControl software that is, not the channels
[12:35] <legend2440> runpain2: when i enter that url you posted it plays on mine using firefox with the gecko-mediaplayer plugin. do you have that installed?
[12:35] <krissam> is there any way to link folders like you can link files with the ln command? ln seems to have a folder option, but even when running it as SU i get access denied
[12:35] <runpain2> NO legend2440
[12:35] <jrib> krissam: folders are files
[12:35] <gibbyg> haha ok I see my problem is a bit tricky. as its a recent intallation, would I be better off just re-installing?
[12:35] <runpain2> sorry wasent yelling
[12:36] <legend2440> runpain2: install gecko-mediaplayer and restart firefox
[12:36] <cara> gibbyg: did I miss something
[12:36] <bobbob1016> ziroday, Oh, ok, I was just looking at it since I get 3.5 hours with the 6 cell, and someone on the forums said they get 7.5 with this.  XP gets 7.5 to 8, so I wanted battery life like that.  I'll ask there, thanks.
[12:36] <cara> ?
[12:36] <jrib> krissam: are you talking about hard links or symbolic links?
[12:36] <cara> gibbyg: use  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  to reconfigure X
[12:37] <cara> I think your refresh rates may be wrong
[12:37] <gnychis> since the newest 2 kernels in Hardy, my sound has stopped working which is an Intel 82801H ... alsamixer now only shows 2 channels and finds a "Analog Devices ID 194a" card... any ideas?
[12:37] <gibbyg> cara: was that dpkg-reconfigure x11 thing for me?
[12:37] <cara> yes
[12:37] <gibbyg> ah ok :D
[12:38] <diese1> how do i make amarok the default player for music files?
[12:38] <gibbyg> The problem is, my screen isn't displaying with the new settings so I can't access the terminal or anything
[12:39] <marekt> hi is it possibl to change keyboard shortcuts for firefox in ubuntu?
[12:39] <runpain2> cant find it
[12:40] <ubuntakias> can anyone help me ? how can i change my icons at ubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:40] <DistroJockey> gibbyg, use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to a terminal (or F1, F3-F6)
[12:40] <legend2440> runpain2: are you using hardy?
[12:40] <gibbyg> Ok will try that, thanks
[12:41] <DistroJockey> gibbyg, F7 is the X display
[12:41] <blahdeblah-lap> Hi.  Is there an audio player in Ubuntu that can change the tempo of a song and keep it in the same key (i.e. by frequency multiplication)?
[12:42] <legend2440> blahdeblah-lap: i think audacity has a Tempo option
[12:43] <eugene_> hi
[12:43] <ubuntakias> can anyone tell me how can i change the icons ????
[12:43] <runpain2> this all a bunch of pain to get packages
[12:43] <blahdeblah-lap> legend2440: thanks
[12:43] <gibbyg> Ok thanks will try those when I reboot :)
[12:44] <runpain2> i am tring to download it it and cant
[12:44] <Ethos> libmysqlclient12-dev < alternative to that?
[12:44] <ubuntakias> i have the icons... now do what?
[12:44] <domas> 12! thats ancient
[12:44] <legend2440> runpain2: are you using synaptic?
[12:45] <runpain2> S T O P Access to the page has been denied. URL: http://gecko-mediaplayer.googlecode.com/files/gecko-mediaplayer-0.8.0.tar.gz Banned MIME Type: application/x-gzip Please contact the Network Administrator if you think there has been an error.
[12:45] <myst> hi this is some ot, but I dont know where to discuss... I want to know, how can I register a domain name and not register with any hosting service right now. I just want domain name and full control. please let me know the appropriate channel
[12:45] <runpain2> cant find it in synaptic
[12:45] <extor> Whats a good app with which I can take an mpg or avi video and superimpose my own subtitles on it?
[12:45] <legend2440> runpain2: its in synaptic no need to download it
[12:45] <md22> for someone interested in learning programming and also learning about how an Operating System works do you guys think that Ubuntu offers more advantages in this area over Windows Vista (which i current have installed)?
[12:45] <extor> md22, hell yeahhhhhh
[12:45] <jrib> myst: #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic questions please
[12:46] <extor> md22, unix has always been a programmers OS rather than an office workers OS
[12:46] <legend2440> runpain2: can i PM?
[12:46] <Slart> md22: I would say having an pretty open system with access to source would help a lot in understanding an os.. go with a linux variant
[12:46] <gregge> Am I the only one annoyed everyone's talking about some sort of election in the USA when Ubuntu 8.10 is to be released tomorrow?
[12:46] <extor> Slart, not to mention having a command shell which is a scripting language
[12:46] <myst> md22: I never could learn the practical internals of OS while i was working with Windows. Whatever i know came wortking with Linux
[12:46] <myst> jrib: ok sure
[12:46] <Slart> md22: but just using linux won't make you an OS guru.. I would think getting a book on operating system would be more useful
[12:46] <extor> gregge, its all these damn Europeans obsessed with elections
[12:47] <runpain2> yes legend2440
[12:47] <bimberi> gregge: yes :)
[12:47] <erUSUL> !ot
[12:47] <Oohoh> hey
[12:47] <Oohoh> The 'grub' package failed to install into /target/. Without the Grub boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[12:47] <Slart> extor: well.. I don't think having a scriptable shell has some kind of magic +5 to os -knowledge perk.. but sure =)
[12:47] <Oohoh> someone can help me to resolve this issue?
[12:47] <gregge> It think it shows Ubuntu has WAY too little respect
[12:47] <extor> Slart, it sort of babies you into the coding world
[12:47] <gregge> :D
[12:47] <plagerism> Hello, I am having an issue with one of my boxes at  home in intrepid.  I saw a couple of bug reports that seem similar, but not exact, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272926.  Basically after a certain amount of time in X, the computer locks up.  Same effect with nvidia-177 nvidia-173 and nv drivers.  I dont have a synaptic touchpad on that system
[12:48] <plagerism> Anyone have hardlocking in intrepid due to Xorg?
[12:48] <Slart> extor: mm.. you could have a point there.. but this is getting offtopic
[12:48] <Slart> plagerism: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <Slart> !intrepid | plagerism
[12:49] <rano> fhghf
[12:49] <bimberi> !grub | Oohoh, try the first link:
[12:49] <stever1983> how can i find file named "xxx" in the directory as well as it's subdirectory?
[12:49] <ikonia> stever1983 find . -name xxx -print
[12:49] <bimberi> stever1983: find -name "xxx"
[12:49] <Slart> stever1983: "man find".. I can never remember the exact syntax
[12:50] <joel`> md22:
[12:50] <Slart> stever1983: there is also a gnome-panel applet for that gui feel =)
[12:51] <stever1983> thanks
[12:52] <Gweeetszorano> Does anyone know what to do about loss of sound with Ibex?
[12:52] <md22> Slart:so far i have doing some reasearch on th enext and most people recommend these books. what do you think of them: "The C programming Language "by Kernighan and Ritchie ,"Advanced Programming in the UNIX Enviroment" by Richard Stevens and "Modern Operating Systems" by Tanenbaum
[12:52] <ikonia> !ibex > Gweeetszorano
[12:52] <Gweeetszorano> k
[12:53] <eugene_> hihi
[12:53] <Slart> md22: I'm not the right person to ask.. but the first book is pretty well known.. I'm not sure about the second one.
[12:53] <md22> ok
[12:53] <Slart> md22: can't really say anything about the third one either
[12:54] <jrib> md22: you should try ##c for recommended books to learn about C
[12:54] <md22> ok thanks jrib
[12:54] <mac_vr> hi all... is it possible to have different wallpapers in different workspaces?
[12:54] <Slart> mac_vr: possible, yes... easy, no
[12:54] <mac_vr> Slart: i dont mind if its hard... how?
[12:55] <Slart> mac_vr: I've seen some movies on youtube with different wallpapers but I think that was hardcoded in a custom compiz-binary
[12:55] <jrib> mac_vr: what window manager are you using?
[12:55] <Slart> mac_vr: hard in this case means "rewrite parts of the compiz engine".
[12:55] <jarussi> hi, anyone know a good design editor, to replace Macromedia Dreamweaver?
[12:55] <ikonia> jarussi: the options are really limited I'm afraid
[12:55] <mac_vr> jrib: compiz
[12:55] <Oprt1> my HP printer 845c is detected by ubuntu 8.04, but print strange characters, how to resolve this problem? thanks
[12:56] <tux_> Escsun yt pkbcm
[12:56] <mac_vr> Slart: any how-to's for that?
[12:56] <Gredik> you could join the two wallpaper images together
[12:56] <jrib> mac_vr: you can setup different wallpapers for each side of the cube in ccsm, but you need to stop nautilus from showing your desktop (ie you get no desktop icons)
[12:56] <tux_> Escsun не злись
[12:56] <Slart> mac_vr: this thread is a year old.. but it might be worth reading, http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=4279
[12:56] <bimberi> !html | jarussi
[12:56] <mac_vr> jrib: oh...
[12:57] <jarussi> ikonia: i'm installing ubuntu on my company, and need to try to find a replacement for the design area ..
[12:57] <jarussi> bimberi: tkz ... i'll try some of those! =)
[12:57] <elvis123> hi, I downloaded ubuntu-8.04.1-server-amd64.iso but when I do a installation it tells me i am running 7.10 is this just a general thing or is my download source talking %$@#?
[12:57] <mac_vr> jrib: would conky work then?
[12:57] <ikonia> jarussi: the options are very limited and basic I'm afraid, quanta/screem etc
[12:57] <Gredik> would wine/crossover rune dreamweaver?  which version jarussi?
[12:58] <bimberi> jarussi: np, but yeah, I would agree with ikonia
[12:58] <gnychis> since the newest 2 kernels in Hardy, my sound has stopped working which is an Intel 82801H ... alsamixer now only shows 2 channels and finds a "Analog Devices ID 194a" card... any ideas?
[12:58] <jrib> mac_vr: my guess is yes
[12:58] <Slart> elvis123: after the install you can run "lsb_release -a" to get info on what version you're running
[12:58] <jarussi> ok! tkz
[12:58] <mac_vr> jrib: ok... will try n see...
[12:58] <mac_vr> Slart  , jrib : thanx
[12:59] <Oprt1> my HP printer 845c is detected by ubuntu 8.04, but print strange characters, how to resolve this problem? thanks
[12:59] <roktangent> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server with the encrypted LVM option?  I booted a bunch of ISO's I have, but it doesn't seem to be in any of the installers...is it strictly on the alternative CD?
[12:59] <elvis123> that is what i did and it is telling me ubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[12:59] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: check whether you selected a PS driver for a non-ps printer and vice-vers
[12:59] <sluimers> hello, I have a little problem with tomcat, I don't know how to set the JAVA_HOME classpath correctly. Whatever I try it keeps complaining that it's not set.
[13:00] <Oprt1> outbackwifi:  PS driver? its installed by default, ubuntu know the printer
[13:00] <outbackwifi> sluimers: for system-wide specify the PATH variable in /etc/profile
[13:00] <Slart> elvis123: well.. try downloading a new iso from the ubuntu site
[13:01] <freshman> hello,anyone here?
[13:01] <Slart> elvis123: or wait until tomorrow and get the brand new version
[13:01] <freshman> i'm a freshman
[13:01] <ikonia> freshman hello, welcome to ubuntu support
[13:01] <bimberi> you don't asay!
[13:01] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: it wouldnt hurt to check what driver Ubuntu has selected :) also fire the printer test page to be absolutely sure
[13:01] <bimberi> *say
[13:01] <freshman> ubuntu is so good,i use it first
[13:01] <outbackwifi> !ask | freshman
[13:01] <elvis123> i downloaded this iso -> http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:01] <InfoNutz> has anyone tested the exchange connector for evolution in the new version yet?
[13:02] <Oprt1> outbackwifi:  :), i dontknow how to cheke printer driver in ubuntu, can u give me a hint ? thanks
[13:02] <bimberi> InfoNutz: new version of which?
[13:02] <sluimers> outbackwifi, what do I add there?
[13:02] <sluimers> JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>"?
[13:02] <elvis123> could it be because it is africa (you know we a bit slow)
[13:02] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: System->Administration->Printers
[13:02] <InfoNutz> ubuntu.
[13:02] <Oprt1> outbackwifi:  ok
[13:02] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: sorry Printing
[13:02] <Slart> elvis123: just to get rid of the little evil voice in the back of my head.. did you make sure you used the right cd for the install? burned the right iso?
[13:02] <freshman> soory,i will cry
[13:02] <sluimers> well... it's not working
[13:03] <elvis123> only iso i have
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> in ubuntu's firefox 3.03,
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> if you enable autoscrolling,
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> and middle click your mouse on the web page,
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> what about the mouse icon now?
[13:03] <outbackwifi> sluimers: it should be PATH=/path/to/java and the next line should be export PATH
[13:03] <Oprt1> outbackwifi: the test page characters are still computer language,
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> is it a perfect, clean circle
[13:03] <bimberi> InfoNutz: ah.  No.  The connector in Hardy doesn't work with the latest version of Exchange.  Not sure if things have moved on since.
[13:03] <yao_ziyuan> or with nasty shadows around?
[13:03] <elvis123> only had one cd to burn and one iso
[13:03] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: did you check the driver uri?
[13:04] <Slart> elvis123: well.. then I have no idea.. unless the persons running the mirror did something seriously wrong
[13:04] <InfoNutz> bimberi: hmmm i heard from people that they are comming out with a connector for exchange 2007 because of its web front en
[13:04] <elvis123> well it is africa nothing is impossible
[13:04] <ziroday> yao_ziyuan: perfect, clean circle. Why?
[13:04] <elvis123> thanks Slart
[13:04] <yao_ziyuan> ziroday, in kde it's with nasty shadows
[13:04] <Oprt1> outbackwifi: in setting tab, it is written " HP DeskJet 845C Foomatic/cdj670 "
[13:04] <jrib> elvis123: check the md5sum of your iso
[13:05] <Slart> elvis123: you're welcome.. hope you get your new install sorted out
[13:05] <yao_ziyuan> actually, i use fedora 10 now
[13:05] <ziroday> yao_ziyuan: then ask in #kubuntu
[13:05] <elvis123> did that as well
[13:05] <elvis123> checksum was 100
[13:05] <bimberi> InfoNutz: I'm one of a few at my workplace who would welcome it
[13:05] <jrib> elvis123: and was it the md5sum for 7.10?
[13:05] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: can you click on "change" ?
[13:05] <elvis123> did not check that hold a sec...
[13:06] <ziroday> yao_ziyuan: thats great, do you have a question or just want to chat which you can do in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:06] <mkartic> hey, how do i check for errors in partitions of my hdd?
[13:06] <Ethos> whguys when I try and do a sudo mysql -u root it says invalid password? Shouldn't it prompt me?
[13:06] <InfoNutz> bimberi: same here... i have to use the web app untile the release.. i hope it holds all the functionallity of the calender and appointments
[13:06] <outbackwifi> mkartic: sudo fsck /dev/hdd
[13:06] <mkartic> use sudo mysql -u root -p
[13:06] <Slart> Ethos: try adding a -p switch
[13:06] <mkartic> it'll ask for pwd, enter it there
[13:06] <Ethos> Thanks
[13:06] <Ethos> :)
[13:06] <mkartic> outbackwifi: thanks
[13:07] <sluimers> outbackwifi, it's still not working
[13:07] <outbackwifi> mkartic: make sure that drive is not mounted and hdd should translate to your actual diskname like sda1 etc
[13:07] <bljr> Hi, anyone can open this page: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/moodle
[13:07] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to log out and in again
[13:07] <mkartic> yeah, got it! [some prior exp with mount :) ]
[13:07] <bljr> Hi, can anyone open this page: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/moodle ?
[13:07] <InfoNutz> bljr: yes but it asks to download a phtml file
[13:08] <outbackwifi> sluimers: scrub that; i wasnt thinking!! in /etc/profile enter JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java and export JAVA_HOME after that
[13:08] <BadRobot> Hi there Jussi
[13:08] <sluimers> okay
[13:08] <bljr> InfoNutz, do you know why? i used to be able to browse the page..
[13:08] <sluimers> and then login/logout?
[13:08] <BadRobot> hi everyone
[13:08] <outbackwifi> sluimers: yes
[13:08] <InfoNutz> bljr: don't know dude
[13:08] <BadRobot> is there any EEE PC Ubuntu room?
[13:09] <BadRobot> or support for EEE PC
[13:09] <ziroday> BadRobot: #ubuntu-eeepc
[13:09] <BadRobot> thx
[13:09] <outbackwifi> BadRobot: there is #eeepc also ; i can also help you since i am on an eeepc :)
[13:09] <sluimers> outbackwifi, brb, I don
[13:09] <sluimers> 't think it's gonna work though
[13:10] <outbackwifi> sluimers: once you do that open up a terminal and type echo $JAVA_HOME; it should print out the path to java
[13:11] <plonk> internet used to work for me and ubuntu but suddenly stopped. i reinstalled and it still doesnt work. running ubuntu on vmware
[13:12] <sluimers> outbackwifi, that didn't work
[13:12] <InfoNutz> anyone here a guru with .xorg configs and xrandr?  i can fiddle with it to get dual screens at the right resolution but its really quirky with compiz and on initial start up and shut down
[13:12] <outbackwifi> sluimers: what was the output of the echo command?
[13:12] <dream> ubuntu 8.10 will can be downloaded !!!
[13:12] <dr_willis> WHen its done. :)
[13:12] <sluimers> outbackwifi, oh the output of the echo command is okay
[13:12] <outbackwifi> sluimers: also can you pastebin what you wrote in /etc/profile pls
[13:12] <outbackwifi> sluimers: if thats ok then your JAVA_HOME is set
[13:13] <sluimers> outbackwifi, yeah, I already got that far, it's that tomcat doesn't see this
[13:13] <outbackwifi> sluimers: it will see it too
[13:13] <pronoy> my max screen resolution is stuck on 800 * 600 how do i increase it ?!
[13:13] <GleepGlop> I have 2 separate X screens working, but when I enable compiz-fusion a black bar is visible down the side of one of the screens, it goes away when compiz is off.
[13:14] <ConstantineXVI> is xchat-gnome the best graphical client available, or are there others?
[13:14] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to ensure that you have the JDK and not the JRE installed; tomcat needs JDK
[13:14] <stage3> pronoy, what video card have you got?
[13:14] <sluimers> outbackwifi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64078/
[13:14] <outbackwifi> ConstantineXVI: im on chatzilla and quite pleased with it
[13:14] <pronoy> stage3: nvidia 8600 gt
[13:15] <stage3> pronoy did you install propetary driver?
[13:15] <noob-dau> how do i update apps in ubuntu?
[13:15] <ziroday> noob-dau: using the update manager
[13:15] <pronoy> stage3: yes all done
[13:16] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to start tomcat from init.d like so --> sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start
[13:16] <pronoy> stage3: the restricted drivers are installed
[13:16] <outbackwifi> sluimers: if you installed from the repos
[13:16] <pronoy> stage3: but it shows not in use
[13:16] <stage3> pronoy system->preferences->screen resolution
[13:16] <sluimers> outbackwifi, ohhh... than if I start it that way... what can I do then?
[13:16] <asz> есть русский народ?
[13:17] <roktangent> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server with the encrypted LVM option?  I booted a bunch of ISO's I have, but it doesn't seem to be in any of the installers...is it strictly on the alternative CD?
[13:17] <pronoy_> stage3: i am on KDE 4.1
[13:17] <ziroday> !ru | asz
[13:17] <GleepGlop> I have 2 separate X screens working, but when I enable compiz-fusion a black bar is visible down the side of one of the screens, it goes away when compiz is off. compiz works and effects are working though
[13:17] <outbackwifi> sluimers: sorry that was /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start (also use update-rc.d to make it start at boot)
[13:17] <ziroday> roktangent: ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:17] <wam> hi, I want to boot ubuntu from iscsi. I'm using gpxe and grub and the kernel are already loading fine. Now I need to tell the kernel to load its iscsi root. Therefore I read on the iscsi-init readme, to append a kernel paramter "iscsi-if=eth0". This has no effect. Do I need to create my own initrd or should anything be included in ubuntu hardy?
[13:17] <roktangent> thanks ziroday
[13:17] <ziroday> GleepGlop: you can ask in #compiz-fusion
[13:17] <stage3> pronoy, did you install kUbuntu?
[13:17] <GleepGlop> ziroday: hahaha nice one
[13:17] <theBishop> is there a Moonlight plugin for Firefox?
[13:17] <outbackwifi> sluimers: did you install the package?
[13:18] <noob-dau> im using vlc but i know its not the newest version. the update manager does not update my vlc
[13:18] <pronoy_> stage3: i had hardy and i installed kde 4.1 on it through the internet
[13:18] <noob-dau> why
[13:18] <sluimers> outbackwifi, once I have started it, how do I get to the administration and management pages?
[13:18] <outbackwifi> sluimers: the same way you would have done otherwise http://yourhost:8080
[13:18] <sluimers> outbackwifi, localhost:8080 gives me nothing
[13:19] <outbackwifi> sluimers: does ps -fe | grep tomcat show anything at all?
[13:19] <pronoy_> stage3: ?
[13:19] <ziroday> noob-dau: due to ubuntu update policy, unless there is a serious regression or security issue the version will not be updated until the next six months
[13:19] <stage3> pronoy, wait me a moment
[13:19] <sluimers> outbackwifi, it shows a lot yes
[13:20] <noob-dau> can i update them manualy?
[13:20] <outbackwifi> sluimers: does netstat -l | grep 8080 show something?
[13:20] <ziroday> noob-dau: yes from externel repos or ppa
[13:21] <sluimers> outbackwifi, no
[13:21] <noob-dau> im new to ubuntu :) :(
[13:21] <dude> some bodz knows how i istall the E169 on Linux???
[13:21] <outbackwifi> sluimers: can you do a telnet localhost 8080?
[13:21] <Preet> hey all
[13:21] <outbackwifi> !hi | Preet
[13:21] <ziroday> noob-dau: then its recommended you wait until intrepid which will have the new vlc player in it
[13:21] <Preet> i've got an issue with rdesktop on ubuntu, can I ask in here
[13:21] <sluimers> outbackwifi, connection refused
[13:22] <eMyller> hello there
[13:22] <ziroday> Preet: whats your issue?
[13:22] <dude> I have the new VLC plazer
[13:22] <outbackwifi> sluimers: time to get to tomcat logs; look in /r
[13:23] <eMyller> someone could tell me how do i redirect the port 8080 from the main portal pc to the my port 80?
[13:23] <eMyller> i'm in an internal network
[13:23] <noob-dau> but i want to update other apps as well
[13:23] <sluimers> outbackwifi, /r? what is /r?
[13:23] <outbackwifi> sluimers: sorry hit enter key too soon
[13:23] <RUMMY> by clicking alt+button1 I can drug windows, but how set in terminal windows drugging without alt?
[13:23] <Preet> i am using seamlessrdp, and it works a charm! :) but it doesnt work with just on application (Crystal Reports XI).  It works, but the screen goes to full screen/not full screen.  It's diffuclt ot describe.  The window covers my gnome panels but i can still alt+tab to switch applications
[13:23] <ziroday> noob-dau: they will all be updated in intrepid
[13:24] <noob-dau> meh
[13:24] <eMyller> anyone?
[13:24] <cara> omg
[13:24] <cara> too much scroll
[13:24] <ziroday> noob-dau: anything else?
[13:25] <cara> can't...follow...text...
[13:25] <noob-dau> no but i need the updates now
[13:25] <piasdom> what do i need to check to connect to localhost:902 for vmware ?
[13:25] <ziroday> noob-dau: then perhaps ubuntu is not for you, maybe another distro that does rolling releases instead of time based ones
[13:25] <cara> eMyller: what's on your main portal PC?
[13:25] <eMyller> cara: linux...?
[13:25] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to look in /usr/share/tomcat5.5/logs/catalina_2008-10-29.log and see if it throws up errors
[13:26] <stage3> pronoy_, look at the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:26] <eMyller> cara: i'm on an organization
[13:26] <outbackwifi> sluimers: thats assuming that today is 29 Oct in your part of the world :)
[13:26] <eMyller> our IP goes to that PC
[13:26] <pronoy_> stage3: one sec
[13:26] <noob-dau> madness, i just need to figure out how to update them manually
[13:26] <eMyller> and that pc shares internet connection with us, cara
[13:26] <stage3> pronoy_,  see at Device secction
[13:26] <sluimers> outbackwifi, it throws errors alright
[13:27] <stage3> pronoy_,  tell me what driver it use
[13:27] <Preet> ziroday: did you get my issue? it's scrolling like a cow in here
[13:27] <pronoy_> stage3: nvidia
[13:27] <ziroday> noob-dau: you can do that, however if you are new or unsure of ubuntu it is recommended that you wait as you can very easily break your computer
[13:27] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to debug them; mostly they are errors in your config file server.xml (read the documentation)
[13:27] <ziroday> Preet: yep, but I have no idea how to help you sorry
[13:27] <Preet> ziroday: no worries, any idea who can
[13:28] <outbackwifi> Preet: what was your issue again?
[13:28] <ziroday> Preet: unfortunatly no, I am really not familiar with RDP at all
[13:28] <elTigre> hey, my ubuntu is horribly slow compared to vista
[13:28] <stage3> pronoy_, coud you paste bin  the screen section?
[13:28] <outbackwifi> elTigre: stick to vista
[13:28] <noob-dau> i i where that kind of person i had bought me a mac
[13:28] <elTigre> it takes like 15-20 minutes to use firefox
[13:28] <elTigre> where usable means no 20-30 second hangups
[13:29] <ziroday> elTigre: what are your system specs?
[13:29] <pronoy_> stage3: hang on....
[13:29] <ogzy> is there anyone here know where can i set the gnome-volume-manager's volume levels by default, any gconf settings or files for that?
[13:29] <outbackwifi> ogzy: alsamixer
[13:29] <Tyrath> if you install a file using build, how do you make it so it isn't installed in a random directory but is installed properly?
[13:29] <elTigre> ziroday: fairly old.... core duo 2400, 2 gb ram
[13:29] <Tyrath> for example I wanted the latest lynx
[13:29] <jrib> Tyrath: what does "using build" mean?
[13:29] <pronoy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64083/
[13:30] <Tyrath> jrib: ./configure , make , make install
[13:30] <ogzy> outbackwifi, alsamixer with some parameters or not? i want to adjust it from a script without any gui
[13:30] <pronoy_> stage3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64083/
[13:30] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: if you use ./configure; make  and sudo make install; most FOSS software install in /usr/local/bin
[13:30] <ziroday> elTigre: that should be fine to run ubuntu, is there the same slowdowns on a livecd?
[13:30] <jrib> Tyrath: ./configure --help    pay attention to the --prefix option
[13:30] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: I did, but this app didn't
[13:30] <stage3> pronoy_, ok
[13:30] <elTigre> don't know, I'd think yes
[13:30] <elTigre> uh no I mean
[13:30] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: you can also issue a ---prefix like jrib says
[13:30] <elTigre> there is nothing on the harddrive in a live cd, and the swap isn't used
[13:31] <outbackwifi> elTigre: isnt that why its called a liveCD?
[13:31] <elTigre> or better the swap on my harddrive installation isn't used
[13:31] <Tyrath> jrib: well it gives a lot of prefixes, but I couldn't see one that installed the app like normal apps are installed
[13:31] <cara> eMyller: you need to do some port forwarding
[13:31] <jrib> Tyrath: huh?
[13:31] <ph8> hi all, i'm trying to get onto an ftp with nautilus (so i can use it like a filesystem) - when i login it shows me nothing but one file, if i login with ftp on the cmd line, or filezilla i see the full contents - it's a windows ftp server - anything sound familiar?
[13:31] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: --prefix
[13:31] <thiebaude> eltigre:it doesn't run off the HD
[13:31] <elTigre> swapping isn't the slow down, because it's not used
[13:32] <Tyrath> jrib: well if you install a debian package it shoots the files into multiple directors yeah? and adds an alias to the prog
[13:32] <cara> ph8: yeah, windows ftp == BAD
[13:32] <elTigre> and the cpu spends 70% in "Waiting"
[13:32] <stage3> pronoy_,  you have to do a backup of xorg.conf file, copy it with another name
[13:32] <jrib> Tyrath: yes?
[13:32] <ph8> cara:  1and1's fault unfortunately
[13:32] <elTigre> whereas the "us" portion usually is below 10%
[13:32] <ziroday> elTigre: no but it could be due to you installing a whole bunch of applications and not sure what theyre doing
[13:32] <stage3> pronoy_, then execute this command:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[13:32] <elTigre> ziroday: probably yes, like gnome...
[13:32] <outbackwifi> elTigre: is the prob only with FF or generally with Ubuntu?
[13:32] <Tyrath> jrib: but when i do the tarbalz extraction, then make and make install it shoots the files into a random directory
[13:32] <ziroday> el
[13:32] <pronoy_> stage3: gotcha
[13:32] <piasdom> how do i check port excess in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[13:33] <elTigre> FF in particular, epiphany is a little quicker
[13:33] <outbackwifi> piasdom: whats that?
[13:33] <Tyrath> jrib: how could i make it install the files in multiple directories and add the alias like what happens with debian packages?
[13:33] <jrib> Tyrath: it shoots the files off into the directory you specify with --prefix
[13:33] <elTigre> I also tried to disable extensions... didn't help much
[13:33] <sluimers> outbackwifi, the errors I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64084/
[13:33] <jrib> Tyrath: you usually just want to use --prefix /usr/local/
[13:33] <piasdom> outbackwifi: i need to check to see if port 902 is blocked
[13:33] <outbackwifi> elTigre: there used to be a known bug in FF; turn off security checking or something
[13:33] <elTigre> there seem to be background processes that strain the harddrive or something
[13:34] <outbackwifi> piasdom: install nmap and do a portscan
[13:34] <Tyrath> jrib: ah k. and then or the alias?
[13:34] <Tyrath> or = for
[13:34] <piasdom> outbackwifi: thanks
[13:34] <Tyrath> jrib: or do i have to bind that manually
[13:34] <jrib> Tyrath: it will install binaries to /usr/local/bin/ which is already in your path
[13:34] <elTigre> but I can't really figure out what they are, the "top" command doesn't give me anything specific to kill
[13:34] <elTigre> except maybe trackerd
[13:34] <pronoy_> stage3: done
[13:35] <Tyrath> jrib: hmm... see the thing is I installed a deb package that was an earlier version. I basically just wanted to upgrade
[13:35] <mxweas> So I just got my wifi driver working and I can see all of the wifi networks in range but when I try to connect to one it just sits there trying to connect.
[13:35] <stage3> pronoy_, did it change anything?
[13:35] <mxweas> I'm using the gui to connect and it doesn't seem to wor
[13:35] <mxweas> work** any ideas?
[13:35] <outbackwifi> mxweas: is the network open or encrypted?
[13:35] <debmukh50> I am trying to open  to open a windows media file using audbuntu.
[13:35] <Tyrath> jrib: if I don't write it to the same directory won't I have to lynx progs installed?
[13:35] <jrib> Tyrath: install it to /usr/local/.  Even if you have something from debs in /usr/, /usr/local/ comes first in your path, so that will get used when you run the command
[13:35] <pronoy_> stage3: nope
[13:36] <mxweas> wep 128
[13:36] <mxweas> encrypted
[13:36] <Tyrath> jrib: cool ty
[13:36] <varun> got the really odd problem, sudo causes Segementation falut.
[13:36] <Tyrath> jrib: just one last thing. are deb packages installed in /usr/local/?
[13:36] <mxweas> outbackwifi: can I not connect to encrypted networks?
[13:36] <cara> mxweas: did you change your passcode input to hex before entering it?
[13:36] <outbackwifi> mxweas: most people normally enter a 128 bit passphrase instead of hex key because this option shows up first; try selecting correctly in the combo box
[13:36] <mxweas> no
[13:36] <pronoy_> stage3: i however did install nvidia settings and i can increase resolution to 1280 * 800 but the screen goes haywire..
[13:36] <jrib> Tyrath: no, proper deb packages are not supposed to touch /usr/local/
[13:36] <stage3> pronoy_, look at the section Device again. tell me the driver name
[13:37] <Tyrath> jrib: but still, given I instal it in /usr/local/ it will erase the previous version of the app?
[13:37] <mxweas> so the passphrase box just opened
[13:37] <stage3> pronoy_,  did you restart xserver?
[13:37] <mxweas> how do I enter my 26 digit key?
[13:37] <Mal3ko> omg..final built is finally out
[13:37] <pronoy_> stage3: now there is no driver in the device section
[13:37] <mxweas> nvm
[13:37] <mxweas> found it
[13:37] <mxweas> thanks
[13:38] <jrib> Tyrath: no, it won't erase it.  But when you call 'app' (or whatever the binary is called, your system will run /usr/local/bin/app, not /usr/bin/app
[13:38] <overkordbaever> anyone here who has run multiple instances of mysql on the same machine with mysqld_multi?
[13:38] <eMyller> cara: exactly
[13:38] <outbackwifi> sluimers: you need to check  and correct the file access error on line 7 of that pastebin
[13:38] <thiebaude> Mal3ko:where?
[13:38] <stever1983> Unable to open 'mms://live.cctv.com/live15'  who can help me?
[13:38] <Tyrath> jrib: ah k. i'll uninstall it then and do what you said. thanks
[13:38] <ConstantineXVI> is there a way in gnome to have a vertical taskbar, but horizontal buttons?
[13:38] <stage3> pronoy_ don't use nv nor nvidia driver?
[13:38] <jim_p> stever1983: where is that displayed?
[13:38] <outbackwifi> !enter | mxweas
[13:39] <varun> guys, sudo dosnt work, it spits out a segmentation fault? any ideas?
[13:39] <ConstantineXVI> or better, something more or less like the mac OS9 window switcher
[13:39] <mxweas> what is the difference between open system and shared key authentication?
[13:39] <cara> mxweas: used the open system
[13:39] <pronoy_> stage3: there is no value ! the whole section just comprises of identifier value only now
[13:39] <jim_p> varun: broken update?
[13:39] <mxweas> cara: whats the difference though?
[13:39] <outbackwifi> ConstantineXVI: you can install kiba dock or avantgo window navigator (awn)
[13:40] <pronoy_> stage3: here check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/64087/
[13:40] <stage3> pronoy_,  you have to use the backup file and retore it
[13:40] <outbackwifi> varun: does it spit it out on everything?
[13:40] <pronoy_> stage3: yah...doing that
[13:40] <varun> yeha everything
[13:40] <prodigel> hi all. I'm having an old problem with firefox and ubuntu(not sure there's a connection, but still). It moves terribliy slow when loading images, and seems to block all interactions until it's done. anyone had similar problems?
[13:41] <mxweas> outbackwifi: it still doesn't appear to be connecting...
[13:41] <stever1983> when i played the list, and it .....
[13:41] <outbackwifi> varun: what does ldd /usr/bin/sudo say?
[13:41] <pronoy_> stage3: done
[13:41] <mxweas> outbackwifi: it just brings up the passphrase required box again and again.
[13:41] <piasdom> what's he command to check my ip ?
[13:41] <stever1983> when i used the vcl player.
[13:41] <outbackwifi> piasdom: ifconfig
[13:41] <piasdom> outbackwifi: thanks
[13:42] <stage3> pronoy_, wait me a moment, I will look at the nvidia website
[13:42] <outbackwifi> mxweas: is the router on dhcp?
[13:42] <mxweas> yes
[13:42] <znh> the next ubuntu will be released tomorrow, is there a specific time known?
[13:42] <sebastianp> part
[13:42] <jrib> znh: no
[13:43] <pronoy_> stage3: check this out...about nvida-glx-new package
[13:44] <sisif> Hello guys. I`m trying to use Amarok to transfer some mp3s/oggs to an iriver clix (MTP). After I buil my que list and click on "transfer" some files are being tranfered and some don`t. And Amarok seems to hang. Also, it seems that my uriver is geting disconected so I have to re-peer it. Any sugestion on what might cause all this problems ?
[13:44] <mxweas> outbackwifi: Is there something I can run to see where the problem is occurring?
[13:44] <sluimers> outbackwifi, how?
[13:44] <outbackwifi> mxweas: what wireless card are you using?
[13:45] <mxweas> broadcom4322
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:45] <tvakah> how do I go about setting up a cross compilation environment so that I can build an amd64 package on intel hardware?
[13:45] <sluimers> outbackwifi, I don't have a clue how to fix an error like that
[13:45] <outbackwifi> sluimers: dont know, you need to read tomcat documentation; we support only ubuntu
[13:45] <mxweas> I downloaded their driver from their site. my wireless card shows in iwconfig and in ifconfig now.
[13:45] <debmukh50> I queried a few minutes ago regarding the use of audacity for wma file.   My apology if I haven't done this correctly.   I shall find more about using the online chat and come back.   Thanks to anyone who may have answered already.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> tvakah: if the intel is 64bit then its the same
[13:45] <mxweas> outbackwifi: I've heard things like ssb can get in the way?
[13:45] <outbackwifi> mxweas: whats ssb?
[13:46] <mxweas> no idea
[13:46] <mxweas> I just saw people turn it off
[13:46] <mxweas> then do
[13:46] <mxweas> modprobe wl
[13:46] <mxweas> and modprobe ssb
[13:46] <FloodBot2> mxweas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <mxweas> or something similar
[13:46] <tvakah> ActionParsnip, no... I am on a "normal" intel platform and want to build a .deb for installation on an amd64 server
[13:46] <outbackwifi> !enter| mxweas
[13:46] <mxweas> as in it was interfering with the broadcom driver
[13:46] <tvakah> ActionParsnip, so waht is the "ubuntu way" to setup cross compilation of packages
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> tvakah: ive never done that, try #ubuntu-dev maybe
[13:47] <outbackwifi> mxweas: i dont have any idea about that
[13:47] <outbackwifi> !wifi| mxweas
[13:47] <RUMMY> I deleted packet with apt-get remove vsftpd but some files of that program is on system, how can  I delete fully?
[13:47] <outbackwifi> RUMMY: rm -fr
[13:47] <tvakah> ActionParsnip, the short story and why is that I need to apply the hpn patch to openssh server since this box is replacing a freebsd box and the slow standard openssh server will draw bad attention
[13:47] <stage3> pronoy_, could you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[13:48] <thiebaude> yo yo yo
[13:48] <outbackwifi> RUMMY: use this command with caution (if you run it in the top level, you might end up with a wiped out hd)
[13:48] <pronoy_> stage3: sure           http://paste.ubuntu.com/64088/
[13:48] <RUMMY> I don't want that command
[13:48] <RUMMY> I need delete packet fully
[13:49] <adh> my laptop seems to be getting overheated. Can anyone suggest ways to increase fan speed?
[13:49] <jrib> RUMMY: aptitude purge PACKAGE
[13:49] <RUMMY> with that files which created by it
[13:49] <berriop> Hiii mukerjee!!! are you ther? its Pedro :)
[13:49] <overkordbaever> Is there anyone who has run mysql in multiple instances with mysqld_multi?
[13:49] <saml> how can I make   example.com  and www.example.com  go to an html page while   beta.example.com goes to my /var/www (htdoc root) ?
[13:50] <stage3> pronoy_, did you install nvidia-settings ?
[13:50] <saml> is it possible with DNS configuration?
[13:50] <pronoy_> stage3: yeah
[13:50] <overkordbaever> For some reason, it doesn't want to start the instance added to /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[13:50] <savid> Hi all.  I have a macbook w/ ubuntu installed on it.  Is there a way to have OSX running inside a virtual machine in linux?   I hate having to dual-boot...
[13:50] <overkordbaever> And it does neither give any output nor log anything
[13:50] <thiebaude> !vm
[13:50] <stage3> pronoy_ try to use it?
[13:50] <elvis123> does /boot require its own partition?
[13:50] <berriop> Hiii mukerjee!!! are you ther? its Pedro :)
[13:50] <outbackwifi> elvis123: not really
[13:51] <mxweas> outbackwifi: hmm, my driver doesn't show in System > Administration > Hardware Devices
[13:51] <pronoy_> stage3: i tried but the screen sorta blows up on high resolution...its really disgusting :)
[13:51] <mxweas> could that mean the module is installed incorrectly?
[13:51] <elvis123> so 2 partitions one for / and one for swap is fine?
[13:51] <outbackwifi> mxweas: could be
[13:52] <piasdom> how do i check if the port :8333 or :902 is open in nmap ?
[13:52] <outbackwifi> elvis123: 1 for / 1 for swap and 1 for /home is good
[13:52] <ne2k__> is it possible to install an i386 package on x86_64?
[13:52] <cara> lol
[13:52] <elvis123> beautiful thanks outbackwifi
[13:53] <cara> I thought I posted my comment for mxweas before I left and its still here
[13:53] <outbackwifi> piasdom: by default nmap shows up open ports; if those ports are not shown, then they are not open
[13:53] <outbackwifi> elvis123: yw
[13:53] <mxweas> cara: ?
[13:53] <piasdom> outbackwifi: thanks...how do i open them ?
[13:53] <Slart> ne2k__: sometimes.. it's not guaranted to work though
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> can someone please tell me what command the  from System -> Desktop Effects icon runs please
[13:53] <outbackwifi> piasdom: open them where?
[13:53] <ne2k__> Slart: I'll compile from source
[13:53] <cara> mxweas: you asked me what about the difference between shared and open keys
[13:53] <Slart> ne2k__: some things are designed to be 32bit.. wine for example
[13:54] <mxweas> cara: ah, what is the difference?
[13:54] <piasdom> outbackwifi: i need to open one of them to excess vmware
[13:55] <KaiForce> is there a known issue with Nautilus soaking up RAM?
[13:55] <stage3> pronoy_,  what resolution do you want?
[13:55] <outbackwifi> piasdom: applications listen on ports; these ports are deemed open; a firewall can prevent access to these open ports; so what is it that you want to do?
[13:55] <ne2k__> Slart: hmmm. lots of dependencies. how to try installing the binary package, and how to know if it has worked?
[13:55] <znh> KaiForce, it's a resource hog, ya
[13:55] <blip-> hi, i've got a long pdf document to read.   Is there a tool that lets me highlight certain parts of a PDF as if i'm highlighting a book ?   Thanks
[13:55] <spree> KaiForce do you have a bunch of plugins on it?
[13:55] <spree> KaiForce You can switch to Thunar as default file manager if you want
[13:55] <KaiForce> I don't even know what it does. I doubt I added any plugins
[13:55] <overkordbaever> seems like I got multiple mysql instances working
[13:56] <KaiForce> spree - any downside?
[13:56] <ConstantineXVI> how do you change your leave message in pidgin again?
[13:56] <piasdom> outbackwifi: excess vmware thru seamonkey.....
[13:56] <pronoy_> stage3: right now 1280 * 900 upgradable to 1440 * 900...because i am getting an LCD
[13:56] <Slart> ne2k__: you can download the deb file and run "dpkg -i --force-architecture yourdebfile.deb"
[13:56] <spree> KaiForce less built-in tools
[13:56] <Slart> ne2k__: and you just try running it, see if it works
[13:56] <debmukh50> berriop, yes I'm still there.
[13:56] <outbackwifi> piasdom: are they both on the same machine?
[13:56] <piasdom> outbackwifi: but on port 8333 it can't connect and port 902 just sits there
[13:56] <KaiForce> probably not a problem for me the way I use Ubuntu.  Thanks spree.
[13:56] <Slart> ne2k__: you might be able to use gdebi as well.. it might even be better
[13:57] <spree> KaiForce I also THINK it doesn't do stuff like thumbnails and music previews
[13:57] <Psp> Can I trust getdeb?
[13:57] <KaiForce> not a problem for me.
[13:57] <berriop> debmkh05: hiii, so did you get any answer?
[13:57] <KaiForce> spree:  sounds like an upgrade to me ;)
[13:57] <piasdom> outbackwifi: don't know what you mean....i only have this machine
[13:57] <Bozza1> hello
[13:57] <ne2k__> Slart: hmmm, it says "sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[13:57] <spree> KaiForce well thunar is definitely faster feel free to try it out its already built in by default
[13:57] <KaiForce> Nautilus doesn't do this to me all the time, but occasionally it just runs my system out of RAM
[13:58] <spree> KaiForce how much RAM do you have though
[13:58] <ne2k__> Slart: there doesn't appear to be a libcurl4 runtime -- only gnutls-dev, etc.
[13:58] <KaiForce> BRB, switching
[13:58] <Bozza> has anyone seen the vlc under ubuntu recently
[13:58] <Bozza> its ugly
[13:58] <KaiForce> spree:  512.
[13:58] <outbackwifi> piasdom: netstat -l should show all ports that apps are listening on, if those two ports show up then you should be able to connect
[13:58] <spree> KaiForce yeah you should be fine
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: use somethig else, mplayer is decent
[13:58] <Slart> ne2k__: hmm.. have you installed curl?
[13:58] <KaiForce> i don't do much though, just RDP session, and VLC for streaming tunes
[13:58] <piasdom> outbackwifi: thanks again
[13:58] <Bozza> yes i use mplayer as well
[13:58] <ne2k__> Slart: hmm, I do have /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> i love mplayer
[13:59] <Bozza> but anyway to make vlc look like it used to do
[13:59] <stage3> pronoy_, what is the max monitor resolution?
[13:59] <Bozza> same :)
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: is it skinnable
[13:59] <spree> KaiForce going all out with bigger capacity hardware is fun to do in ubuntu though just fyi
[13:59] <Slart> ne2k__: could be that it's looking for a 32-bit libcurl
[13:59] <ne2k__> Slart: it's a symlink to /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1
[13:59] <Slart> ne2k__: what program is it?
[13:59] <Bozza> well , vlc always used to have a classic look . but now they made it look retarded for linux
[13:59] <Bozza> yes it is
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: thenoff you go to skin
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: do you avedesktop effects?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> *have desktop
[14:00] <ne2k__> Slart: yes, probably. I'll have to compile from source. the program is sonic-visualiser, from www.sonicvisualiser.org
[14:00] <spree> Bozza: there's like 5 different VLC clients to choose from available for linux
[14:00] <pronoy_> stage3: using nvidia settings its 1280 * 800 but using the kde application just 800* 600
[14:00] <spree> bozza: one is even web based
[14:00] <Bozza> spree i chose the one from synaptic update i think
[14:01] <stage3> pronoy_, could you use gnome for a moment?
[14:01] <spree> Bozza: i like xine
[14:01] <Bozza> i dont .. i just use vlc and mplayer :)
[14:01] <stage3> pronoy_, when you use gnome, the screen resolution can be canged?
[14:02] <Bozza> but i think its retarded that they screwed the skin up
[14:02] <spree> i use VLC plenty but i also use xine and mplayer i depends on the codec
[14:03] <spree> the matroska files .mkv's tank on vlc and mplayer for me i play that on xine
[14:03] <Bozza> spree do you know what stupid vlc skin i am talking about
[14:03] <compton> how can I tell ubuntu to connect to wifi from the terminal?
[14:03] <spree> bozza: a screenshot is worth a thousand words
[14:03] <Bozza> the one which has the rainbow coloured volume thing
[14:03] <pronoy_> stage3: nope same problem
[14:03] <Bozza> ok 1 sec
[14:03] <spree> no i dont
[14:03] <slobad23> how do i boot from a hdd install with acpi=off?
[14:04] <Lier-1> Hi! How can I write down ports into Evolution? I mean e.g. 463 for smtp...
[14:04] <debmukh50> berriop.  I  may have.   I am leaving now.
[14:05] <Bozza> spree one sec i am uploading
[14:05] <spree> i don't like using unusual ports for SMTP because you'll get blocked by most ISP spam filters if you do that. the filters try to connect to your port 25 and 587 and if it cant it tags you
[14:05] <stage3> pronoy_,   in conclusion you have installed the nvidia driver and  it seen don't be activate?
[14:05] <erUSUL> slobad23: add the option to the kernel lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst (after splash or the quiet options)
[14:05] <berriop> debmurkh50: ok, i hope u resolved d problem, anyway i see u tomorrow
[14:05] <pingviller25> hey, I've got to know how to check if the swap space is properly set up so it's actually working as intended.. any tips on how to do this? I'm quite new with ubuntu. assistance is appreciated
[14:06] <slobad23> i cant boot it in the first place so how do i get to that directory?
[14:06] <erUSUL> pingviller25: "free" should tell you your current swap space
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: if you used the default install then its fine
[14:06] <erUSUL> slobad23: from a livecd? mounting the filesystem and edtitng the file
[14:07] <cara> mxweas: with open key the client has to supply the correct password in order to connect to the ap; if the password is wrong, the client will not be able to connect to the access point.  with shared key the access point sends a challenge packet to the client which must reply with the correct password.  sorry for the slow response.  I'm at work (shouldn't be here lol)
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> slobad23 hit esc on boot for grub menu then E for edit and e again I think then make the change he suggested
[14:07] <pingviller25> erUSUL: looks like it's using swap as intended yup :)
[14:07] <dr_willis> slobad23,  you can edit the grub lines from the grub menu also. for a one time boot/options
[14:07] <slobad23> i cant boot the live cd without passing the acpi=off to it... it is a samsung q45
[14:07] <slobad23> ah ok - i will do this while grub is loading
[14:07] <slobad23> thanks
[14:07] <pronoy_> stage3: its installed....the effects are all running...the only problem is the resolution
[14:07] <cara> s/which/who
[14:08] <pingviller25> ActionParsnip: installed with livecd, and used 11.3 GB for swap :P so if it's working like it should, it's another issue I got.. but that's Wine-related in that case
[14:08] <Bozza> spree
[14:08] <spree> pingviller25 you don't need that much swap
[14:08] <pingviller25> what's the wine-hq channel name? :P I forgot
[14:08] <Bozza> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AM7BDY9H
[14:08] <Slart> pingviller25: #winehq
[14:08] <Bozza> spree check that link
[14:08] <thiebaude> spree:i was about to say thats alot
[14:09] <thiebaude> !swap
[14:09] <Bozza> shit i should have used flickr
[14:09] <thiebaude> !language
[14:09] <legend2440> !sound
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: yikes, thats crazy
[14:09] <Bozza> spree did you get the link
[14:10] <pronoy_> stage3: i am rebooting....i'll get back to you in a sec
[14:10] <stage3> pronoy_, ok
[14:10] <pingviller25> ActionParsnip: have a 750 gb hdd so I'd rather over-do it than the other way around ;)
[14:10] <spree> Bozza: oh yuck is that the newest version of VLC? cant be
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: if you have ample ram you will never use it
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: then its a waste of 11Gb
[14:11] <Bozza> spree yes it is :(
[14:11] <thiebaude> pingviller25:how much ram do you have?
[14:11] <Bozza> its ugly
[14:11] <Bozza> is there anyway to make it back to normal
[14:12] <pingviller25> 4GB
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: http://www.kabatology.com/02/20/install-vlc-media-player-in-ubuntu-and-skin-to-look-like-windows-media-player/
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: whats the system used for?
[14:12] <pingviller25> ya it's overkill, but it shouldn't hurt at least?
[14:13] <Bozza> ok 1 sec actionparsnip
[14:13] <pingviller25> ActionParsnip: games, apps, apache, developing, and alot other things :P
[14:13] <mdmkolbe> Is there an IRC channel appropriate for asking X11 programming questions?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: you'll need about 4Gb tops
[14:13] <Preet_> i am using seamlessrdp, and it works a charm! :) but it doesnt work with just on application (Crystal Reports XI).  It works, but the screen goes to full screen/not full screen.  It's diffuclt ot describe.  The window covers my gnome panels but i can still alt+tab to switch applications
[14:13] <thiebaude> !x11
[14:13] <sap> question how long until ubuntu releases i mean in hours
[14:13] <Pici> sap: when its done.
[14:13] <thiebaude> sap:thursday
[14:13] <Pici> !party
[14:13] <Bozza> hmm thats not quite what i want .. it makes vlc look like windows media player 11
[14:14] <Bozza> but i guess its still better then now
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Bozza: just show you it can be changed
[14:14] <pingviller25> ActionParsnip: probably yup, but I wasn't sure, and usually the RAM * 2 = swap should work, but for some reason I went with 11.3 GB swap :P
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> pingviller25: its only needed if you are going to use more than 4Gb ram
[14:15] <mdmkolbe> thiebaude: I know what X11 is, I just have some questions about writting X11 programs (specifically how apps like games implement *per window* key repeat ignoring, global setting is fragile)
[14:15] <pingviller25> I prefer to be on the safe side, and if it's not harmful (which I doubt) it's just some space wastage
[14:15] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:i thought swap was for when you run out of memory?
[14:16] <thiebaude> kewl,mdmkolbe
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: exactly so if you dont use more than 4gb ram its wasted space
[14:16] <Bozza> anyone who has vlc .. can someone send me their skin
[14:16] <thiebaude> i need 4gb instead of 512m but i got fluxbox,:)
[14:16] <Bozza> the normal one
[14:16] <Bozza> it ends in .vlt
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> its 1.5% of the drive
[14:16] <thiebaude> yup
[14:16] <Bozza> /usr/share/vlc/skins2/default.vlt
[14:18] <Guiri> Can someone tell me how to burn an .img to a hard disk? I'm trying to install FreeNAS on another disk for another computer. It's an .img file.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: ive seen people use poweriso with wine to get success with img
[14:19] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive just done: Places > Connect to Server  which worked fine. Where is the link for that saved in the file system?
[14:19] <outbackwifi> Guiri: how do you burn something to hard disk?
[14:20] <matrix> bozza hit alt f2 and typ vlc -I skins2
[14:20] <matrix> then you can ad skins
[14:20] <diese1> i was told that ubuntu is not suceptible ti viruses.  this morning i encountered one of those ativirus 2008 spyware/malware pop ups.  how do i check for spyware/malware files?
[14:20] <outbackwifi> Guiri: a .img is normally a raw disk image; it can be dumped to a harddisk using zcat and dd
[14:20] <matrix> also check this web site bozza  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/make-vlc-player-look-like-windows-media-player-10/
[14:20] <dr_willis> diese1,  most likely it was some lame javascript that just Looked like a malware warning
[14:21] <Bozza> thanks matrix
[14:21] <matrix> you welcome
[14:21] <Bozza> oh its to make it look like windows media player .. i dont want that
[14:21] <diese1> dr_willis: so it's true?  no need to worry about viruses/spyware?
[14:21] <dr_willis> diese1,  they try to make them look like a 'windows dialog/warning'  nothing to do with linux really   nothign to do with windows really.. jyust trying to scare people into buying their stuff.
[14:21] <Bozza> i just want to make it look like the normal vlc
[14:21] <mini-man> 'ello, mainly a cosmetic question but it's annoying enough that I'll ask... with some GNOME icon themes, icons for folders in the gedit file-browser pane are just rendered as 1px dots, probably because GTK can't find the folder icon for them. I do see the custom folder icons in nautilus, and everywhere else... any ideas which particular pixmap it's looking for?
[14:21] <Guiri> outbackwifi: thanks I'll read up on zcat and dd
[14:21] <matrix> well u can ad any skin
[14:22] <dr_willis> diese1,  theres no real viruses for linux.   Go get adblock for firefox, and perhaps noscript extensions.. and wave those  popups bye...
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: theres a few
[14:22] <matrix> here is skins page for you http://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins.php
[14:22] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  the few ive seen either use some rare service exploit.. or still rely on user stupidity. :)  got a list?
[14:22] <diese1> dr_willis:  sweet.  thanks.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: ive got lists of lists ;)
[14:23] <matrix> download one u like and apply to vlc same way
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: most viri are sent by stupidity
[14:23] <dr_willis> I find their definiution of 'virus' to be a bit  'over broad' :)
[14:23] <hackercompany1> how to install apache on ubuntu
[14:24] <matrix> that should work for you i hope
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> hackercompany1: sudo apt-get install apache2
[14:24] <dr_willis> a OpenOffice exploit isent really a virus in my book. :) but its virus-like.. heh
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: a virus that spreads itself from system to system
[14:24] <outbackwifi> hackercompany1: sudo apt-get install apache2
[14:24] <hackercompany1> is there any way to get the deb file of apache
[14:25] <outbackwifi> !lamp | hackercompany1
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> thats the iso definition of a virus (replace virus with piece of software)
[14:25] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  its scary that we HAVE an iso definition... :)
[14:25] <dr_willis> Is there a RFC on virii standards also?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: theres a definition for the word defintion
[14:25] <outbackwifi> dr_willis: there used to be but got wiped out by a virus
[14:26] <matrix> how did that work bozza
[14:26] <i-unknown> hey, would someone point out the perl version that comes with hardy, please? v5.8?
[14:26]  * dr_willis wonders how they define 'redundancy'
[14:26] <Dnumgis> hi, does ubuntu have any equivalent to gentoo's rc-status? (basically a command that shows which init scripts has successfully started and not)
[14:26] <outbackwifi> i-unknown: perl -v
[14:27] <i-unknown> outbackwifi i don't have ubuntu, that's why i'm asking here
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Dnumgis: you can check dmesg | less
[14:27] <Dnumgis> i-unknown: v5.8.8
[14:27] <outbackwifi> i-unknown: usually you ask here if you have ubuntu; its 5.8.8
[14:28] <i-unknown> outbackwifi lol
[14:28] <i-unknown> thank you anyway
[14:28] <Dnumgis> ActionParsnip: dmesg has nothing about init scripts
[14:28] <outbackwifi> i-unknown: YW
[14:29] <i-unknown> yup definitely i should ask on #gentoo which version of perl is shipped with ubuntu, shame on me
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Dnumgis: i thought itd have the startup gubbins in
[14:29] <Dnumgis> ActionParsnip: dmesg is only kernel messages
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Dnumgis: duly noted
[14:30] <AdvoWork> are there any programs out there to help me share a drive?
[14:30] <AdvoWork> im struggling by using /etc/fstab
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Dnumgis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[14:30] <outbackwifi> i-unknown: if you are trying to make a point, its lost on me
[14:30] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  share to what other os?
[14:30] <callkalpa1> I have got a problem in installing deb files manually in hardy, anyone to help ?
[14:30] <farfadet> hello how to go to the french serveur??
[14:31] <cara> what?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !fr | farfadet
[14:31] <scunizi> !fr | farfadet
[14:31] <Pici> farfadet: /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:31] <zamba> i want to build stuff that uses alsa.. what package do i have to install for the alsa development files?
[14:31] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  the fstab normally is used to mount 'shares' not share them. also. :)
[14:31] <cara> o
[14:31] <cara> lol
[14:31] <zamba> i find no "alsa*-dev" package
[14:31] <cara> I was lost for a second there
[14:31] <callkalpa1> I have got a problem in installing deb files manually in hardy, anyone to help ?
[14:31] <dr_willis> callkalpa1,  tell the channel a little more details.. would be benificial to all.
[14:31] <jrib> callkalpa1: why are you installing deb files manually?
[14:31] <AdvoWork> dr_willis,  basically, if i type \\server\FILES i can view the files, im trying to link that to /home/mydir which wont work. tried with smbfs,cifs.. getting nowhere, im using ubuntu and this is like a terastation
[14:31] <outbackwifi> callkalpa1: fire away
[14:32] <callkalpa1> k
[14:32] <Ionna> good evening
[14:32] <callkalpa1> I have got the deb files for compiz configuration
[14:32] <scunizi> callkalpa1, double click and install. if there are dependance problems it will tell you.. in that case your trying to install a deb that hasn't been vetted by ubuntu and might harm your system
[14:32] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  root user should be to mount that there...  or you can use that fusesmb (or was it smbfuse) tool to have the whole network mounted under user controll.
[14:32] <i-unknown> outbackwifi: nevermind =]
[14:33] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  or  theres smb4k, or perhaps some other tools to browse/mount shares also.
[14:33]  * cara points zamba to libasound2-dev
[14:33] <jrib> callkalpa1: why are you not using the repositories?
[14:33] <callkalpa1> will it work if I copy them to "/var/cache/apt/archives" and install compiz configuration through Add/Remove applications ?
[14:33] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[14:34] <callkalpa1> this is one of my friends problems, he doesn't have internet connection. so can't make use of repositories :-(
[14:34] <AdvoWork> dr_willis,  actually i just did: Places > Connect to Server > Windows Share > put the name in, then FILES and its worked...  so where can i find FILES? ie from /
[14:34] <dr_willis> callkalpa1,  if you are going to use the .deb files.. install them via the command line.. forget about add/remove
[14:34] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  if its 'mounted' use the mount command and see..   the gnome file manager normally sort of 'browses' the shares - im not sure if it actually mounts them to a real location
[14:35] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  the whole 'mount' vs 'browseing' can often cause issues.
[14:35] <AdvoWork> dr_willis,  ive just used mount and can see it listed there
[14:35] <outbackwifi> callkalpa1: if you want to do that via CLI sudo dpkg -i package.deb should work
[14:36] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,   then its mounted it seems.. :)
[14:36] <callkalpa1> Is there a way to install them other than installing them one by one separately ?
[14:36] <dr_willis> callkalpa1,  put them all on the same command line.. :) logical eh?
[14:36] <AdvoWork> dr_willis, DOH, i meant CANT see it listed,sorry
[14:36] <AdvoWork> :S
[14:36] <scunizi> dr_willis, wild cards..
[14:36] <liquidrid> i'm trying to mount my eSata external harddrive. I used to have no problems with it when it was formatted with ntfs, but now that its ext3, nothing comes up when i plug it in
[14:36] <callkalpa1> yeah, but won't it occur dependecy  problems ?
[14:36] <dr_willis> scunizi,  i learned my lesson once about isntalling with wildcards.. :) heh
[14:37] <dr_willis> callkalpa1,  it will actually reduce the  issues.. :)
[14:37] <dr_willis> if  a.deb needs b.deb   then you  sudo apt-get install a.deb b.deb
[14:37] <dr_willis> of course if you dont have b... well...
[14:37] <outbackwifi> liquidrid: the last few lines of dmesg should indicate whether that drive was detected
[14:38] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  looks like its browsing the shares then. YOu may want to check out Fusesmb. its very handy
[14:38] <AdvoWork> dr_willis, so if its not mounted, how did my connect to network work? its obviously worked somehow, cant i copy that process to make it the same?
[14:38] <callkalpa1> will this cause problem "sudo apt-get install b.deb a.deb" ?
[14:38] <AdvoWork> ill take a look dr_willis
[14:38] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  'browseing' the shares.. vs 'mounting' the shares...
[14:38] <outbackwifi> callkalpa1: yes it wont work
[14:38] <callkalpa1> hmm ......
[14:38] <AdvoWork> can i get it by apt-get install?
[14:38] <outbackwifi> callkalpa1: apt-get looks for packages not .debs
[14:38] <dr_willis> actually from what ive read.. the order wont matter..  it sees them both..
[14:39] <dr_willis> AdvoWork,  of course. :)
[14:39] <dr_willis> doh.. outbackwifi  gets bonus points for that. :)
[14:39]  * outbackwifi bows
[14:39] <stage3> pronoy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64100/
[14:39] <dr_willis> dpkg -i *.deb    <----------- use with caution
[14:39] <AdvoWork> dr_willis,  dont suppose you know the package name, Fusesmb didnt work, and my browser isnt on,on this box
[14:39] <callkalpa1> yeah but apt-get needs internet connection, isn't it ?
[14:39] <stage3> pronoy, you have to add the modes line to your xorg.conf file
[14:40] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install fusesmb
[14:40] <thiebaude> !apt-get
[14:40] <outbackwifi> callkalpa1: yes thats why we told you to use dpkg or gdebi in the first place
[14:40] <callkalpa1> hmm ......
[14:40] <callkalpa1> ok
[14:40] <dr_willis> apt-get calls dpkg i think.. :)
[14:40] <liquidrid> outbackwifi, it seems to have been picked up : [ 6758.720569] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc]<PHONE_NUMBER> 512-byte hardware sectors (640135 MB)