[01:50] <stdin> they are one and the same, if the installer isn't working, then it's a MCE problem
[01:50] <tomas_> but the limux mce does not
[01:52] <dthacker> knowledge25: what is your sudo question?
[01:52] <runlevelten> tomas_: the problem is that you have an mce problem.
[01:52] <runlevelten> I do not know about linux-mce. I am a kubuntu user.
[01:53] <tomas_> ok then has anybody have my mce problem
[01:53] <Lynoure> tomas_: there might be #linuxmce
[01:54] (runlevelten/#kubuntu) http://forum.linuxmce.com/
[01:54] <knowledge25> The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled can somebody help me?
[01:55] <tomas_> ok thx anyway
[01:55] <runlevelten> http://forum.linuxmce.com/
[01:55] <runlevelten> tomas_: http://forum.linuxmce.com/
[01:55] <runlevelten> there don't seem to be any mce related chans
[01:55] <runlevelten> on freenode anyway
[01:55] <slougi> knowledge25: apt-get install --reinstall lg3d-java3d should work
[01:55] <runlevelten> that forum is the place to seek support.
[01:57] <knowledge25> that don't work it say 13 Permission denied Could not open lock file
[01:58] <runlevelten> sudo apt-get
[01:58] <runlevelten> et cetera :)
[01:59] <SlimeyPete> knowledge25: type "sudo apt-get install" instead of just "apt-get install"
[01:59] <tomas_> who has Winfast 2000 XP Expoert on Kubuntu working?
[02:00] <tomas_> or knows how to make it run
[02:00] <malqos> where i can find downlaed files form amule?i change the catalog to /home/malqos/desktop but i dont see anything on desktop
[02:00] <malqos> :(
[02:01] <tomas_> kubuntu and Winfast XP Expert sameone???
[02:01] <JD> how do i registre here??
[02:01] <knowledge25> nothing still not working
[02:05] <knowledge25> my sudo won't work at all,somebody help me
[02:05] <Dragnslcr> JCDG- /msg nickserv help
[02:07] <JCDG> is there any girl??
[02:07] <JCDG> jajaaj
[02:10] <knowledge25> what is that mean The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:12] <ubuntu__> hianyone can help me out
[02:12] <Kriips> probably, but i doubt it would be me
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> knowledge25: means that you lost a repository that you had when you installed it
[02:13] <ubuntu__> I wanna know what is use of a space on the left in the avant window navigator
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: hmm i don't use avant... sorry.
[02:14] <ubuntu__> thank U
[02:14] <ubuntu__> all the same
[02:14] <syka> ok
[02:15] <ubuntu__> Kriips: do U know it?tell me,PLZ
[02:16] <Kriips> no, sry :(
[02:16] <DexterF> hi
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:17] <ubuntu__> oh!my,maybe i come to a wrong place,i should go to the chennel ubuntu?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: there are more people there, so maybe
[02:18] <ubuntu__> thx!my english was too poor
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: it wasn't bad :)
[02:24] <DexterF> so - the TOR package is really outdated. what's canoniclas policy here? will there be a newer version or do I have to compile it myself?
[02:26] <miles> uh
[02:26] <miles> hi?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> hi!
[02:27] <SlimeyPete> good afternoon.
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> good morning...!
[02:31] <runlevelten> You can search for a package (say in places like backports) compile it, request it or make a newer package yourself
[02:31] <maarten_> #kubuntu-nl
[02:31] <maarten_> nick moerten
[02:31] <maarten_> nick #Moerten
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:32] <Moerten> thank you too mate:S
[02:32] <runlevelten> hi nosrednaekim
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> howdy!
[02:34] <BluesKaj> feels like rain is on the way here ...there goes my outdoor project for today
[02:34] <BluesKaj> got a couple fence posts that need attention
[02:34] <runlevelten> rain is here atm. It's _fou_ outside.
[02:34] <runlevelten> _foul_ even.
[02:35] <martijn__nerd> hey
[02:35] <martijn__nerd> i am using a vpn connection from network-manager
[02:36] <martijn__nerd> but to get it to work properly, i have to set ifconfig tun0 mut 1200
[02:36] <martijn__nerd> mtu sorry
[02:36] <martijn__nerd> is there a way to change the default setting of the mtu?
[02:37] <Azzco> Where can I most likely get some help with installing a controller?
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: rained here for 4 days straight.
[02:38] <Stimulus_solutio> hello, i need to configure / create a windows vnc server in kubuntu, anyone know how?
[02:38] <Moerten> hi
[02:39] <Stimulus_solutio> hello
[02:39] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, drought conditions here , no real rain for almost 4 weeks, just a few showers now and then
[02:39] <Moerten> im looking forr someone wko can help me with a little problem
[02:39] <Stimulus_solutio> its best to get to the point, people expect questions in here
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Moerten, just ask your question
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats how it was here... and the  BANG.. was going to go camping this week too :(
[02:39] <Moerten> nake:P
[02:39] <Moerten> nice
[02:39] <Moerten> haha
[02:40] <BluesKaj> bummer , nosrednaekim
[02:40] <Stimulus_solutio> Vnc server configuration in linux for windows, know how?
[02:41] <runlevelten> create a windows vnc server in linux?
[02:41] <fkm> runlevelten, slougi: If I click on "News" in Steam in my normal X session it opens the normal Firefox (/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin). What is strange though is that in the tree view of "KDE System Guard" it's 'below' steam.exe: init > kdeinit > steam.exe > firefox-bin
[02:41] <fkm> I'll check what happens with my WINE X session in... let's say 30min
[02:42] <runlevelten> Stimulus_solutio: the question isn't very clear. Could you elaborate?
[02:42] <runlevelten> fkm: interesting
[02:42] <Moerten> i want to connect a second flatscreen on my laptop, my vga card is known in ubuntu. So whats my problem. if 1 want to create an second desktop (not a clone) and i apply, ubuntu told me to restart the x server. If i do that me pc wont get back. it stops. and rebooting doesnt make any sence,
[02:42] <Stimulus_solutio> runlevelten, yep, Im looking to do remote administration for windows users from linux using vnc, its easy. BUt i want to configure a windows executable server with my own password that I can email to someone who does not know how to configure a server.
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> fkm: probably becuase it was spanwed by and inherited by  steam
[02:43] <Moerten> if i reboot i gat a black srcreen with a cursor and thats all
[02:43] <Moerten> if that happens i need to reinstall ubuntu
[02:45] <fkm> I guess so. But I'm no expert. So I thought if this was the case, Firefox should close when I close Steam. But that ain't the case here.
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> fkm: hmm thats odd.
[02:45] <fkm> When I close Steam the firefox-bin is moved to init. And not init>kdeinit where i find it if I open it normally from the startmenu
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> Steam probably does that
[02:46] <fkm> Let me see where wine is in the tree :)
[02:47] <Moerten> stimulus solution. Im not yet registerd.. sorrie
[02:47] <runlevelten> fkm: if that were the case it would be wineserver, not steam, anyway :)
[02:47] <Moerten> join kubuntu-nl
[02:47] <fkm> Werid. But what do I know :D steam.exe is in init>kdeinit too. But steamserver (which starts at the begining and then disappears when steam.exe appears :)) is in init
[02:48] <knowledge25>  what is that mean The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:48] <fkm> Ok :)
[02:48] <runlevelten> the VNC thing - there are several windows packages you can mail people pre-configured
[02:48] <runlevelten> you need to google for that - ps, remember unix2dos if you edit text files in n?x
[02:49] <seanpcrowe|> hey all =)
[02:49] <seanpcrowe|> does anyone know if i can add a menu option to my wastebin to shred or overwrite etc files when emptying the wastebin???
[02:49] <seanpcrowe|> is this even possable?
[02:51] <runlevelten> probably, although I dunno where the menu for that icon is.
[02:51] <runlevelten> let me look.
[02:52] <Stimulus_solutio> runlevelten, ok cheers
[02:53] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, lulz, who where you talking to there?
[02:53] <runlevelten> you :)
[02:53] <seanpcrowe|> lol, awesome =)
[02:55] <DexterF> !build
[02:56] <stdin> ubotu's on strike
[02:56] <DexterF> oO
[02:56] <DexterF> damn. ok, need some pointers on how to create packages properly, i.e. not checkinstall. did it once on debian, but that was ages ago
[02:58] <stdin> make sure you have debhelper and dh-make installed, then in the source dir "dh_make"
[02:58] <stdin> that will make the debian/ dir
[02:58] <Moerten> is there anybody who wants to help me?
[02:59] <DexterF> sounds almost too easy... what if there already is a deb-src package? what tool do I need to download it and how would I upgrade to a new version? how do I make apt prefer it as long as there's no newer version on the repositories?
[02:59] <DexterF> Moerten: just ask
[02:59] <Moerten> haha
[02:59] <Moerten> yes but its a long question:P
[02:59] <Moerten> haha
[02:59] <DexterF> go
[03:00] <Moerten> and nobody is anwsering
[03:01] <stdin> DexterF: if there is a deb-src "apt-get source package" and just edit the debian/changelog to make it a higher version that's in the repos. apt will always use the higher version, even if it's a local install
[03:01] <DexterF> Moerten: well if you know anyway nobody answers then you are right: there's no point asking. so you're all lost but at least you know where you stand, right?
[03:02] <stdin> DexterF: you can also grab the source of a higher version then you can also patch it with the .diff.gz to create the debian/ dir
[03:02] <genii> stdin: generally i just specify in apt-get command the version then it always likes that one after
[03:03] <DexterF> stdin: thanks.
[03:10] <aguitel> stdn, and aptitude ?
[03:11] <stdin> aguitel: huh?
[03:11] <aguitel> stdn ,do you think aptitude is better than apt-get?
[03:12] <stdin> generally yes
[03:12] <_Shade_> can i run a xsession from a remote machine?
[03:12] <_Shade_> via ssh
[03:12] <genii> since apt-get and dpkg are the backends to aptitude and adept if you feel more comfortable on command line then apt-get is the best way to install stuff
[03:13] <aguitel> stdn ,in what ocassion is better apt-get?
[03:13] <stdin> _Shade_: you can run applications over ssh, not full X
[03:13] <stdin> aguitel: when you don't want recommends
[03:13] <_Shade_> stdin: but can i run graphical frontends as well?
[03:13] <seezer> _Shade_: there are many different ways to do this. a full xsession over ssh would involve a ssh tunnel and setting DISPLAY to the correct host
[03:14] <seezer> perhaps NX is what you're looking for
[03:14] <runlevelten> I've never tried running a session in Xnest over ssh -X - that might work though.
[03:14] <stdin> _Shade_: yeah, login with "ssh -X user@host" and run commands
[03:14] <stdin> _Shade_: or use Xephyr and run "startkde" in a nested X window
[03:15] <stdin> runlevelten: it works, I've done it while curious :)
[03:15] <aguitel> stdn ,what means recommends?
[03:15] <_Shade_> stdin: cool... just playing around since i have managed to set up a lan network with a windows machine :)
[03:15] <runlevelten> lovely jubbly :)
[03:15] <stdin> aguitel: a recommend is something a package recommends but doesn't depend on
[03:16] <_Shade_> stdin: but will xephyr start display on my remote machine?
[03:16] <aguitel> stdn ok
[03:17] <runlevelten> OK, for a user to add custom service menu entries to wastebin, I'm considering adding a custom mimetype to the trash.desktop icon.
[03:17] <runlevelten> For a mystery prize, what will break?
[03:17] <seanpcrowe|> lol
[03:17] <stdin> _Shade_: no, it won't share the display, it runs the applications from the server and just lets you use them on the client
[03:17] <seanpcrowe|> i didnt think it would be this hard just to shred files in the wastebin :s
[03:18] <stdin> _Shade_: vnc is a "desktop sharing" thing
[03:18] <_Shade_> stdin: i am just going to try vnc but what should i do to start it on my kubuntu
[03:19] <stdin> take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[03:19] <runlevelten> It's not hard to shred them at all, you can just open trash:/ and shred everything in it if you want. Adding a menu was what yer wanted though :)
[03:19] <_Shade_> i have downloaded tightvnc on windows already.
[03:20] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, to to able to "right click wastebin >>>> shred files" would be pretty neat...
[03:20] <seanpcrowe|> BUT...
[03:20] <runlevelten> exactamundo :)
[03:20] <seanpcrowe|> if i can do what u say easily enough, then perhaps i should do that...
[03:21] <snikker> the CPU used by X.org is about 90% when i visit a web sites that use js (script.aculo.us  js) how can i solve this?
[03:21] <seanpcrowe|> only thing is runlevelten, i can see no shred or similar function when i explore the wastebin...
[03:21] <runlevelten> snikker: turn off js and only switch it on for sites which need it and don't do it crappily :)
[03:22] <runlevelten> drop the files on the shredder
[03:22] <_Shade_> stdin: there are some apps by default out there - krdc, krfb
[03:22] <snikker> runlevelten: yes, i know that i can disable js, the problem is that i need it enabled...
[03:23] <The_Machine> just burned an iso image and wanted to test it in vmware, but when i put the CDROM into my drive it doesn't seem to be automounted or automatically recognized by kubuntu.  How can i manually make it "seen" by the OS?  (I'm used to having this automatically done for me)
[03:23] <seanpcrowe|> lulz runlevelten, i am seeing no shredder at all (i'm failing badly >.<)
[03:24] <runlevelten> Did you install the shredder when you started kgpg?
[03:24] <runlevelten> snikker: try different browsers for heavy javascript pages.
[03:24] <stimulus> Hello people.
[03:24] <stimulus> Does anybody fancy making my website look better?
[03:25] <Azzco> Can someone help me get this guitar controller to work I'm a bit stuck
[03:25] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, i installed kgpg via adept manager... i ended up with a encryption utilite... but no mention of a sredder...
[03:25] <runlevelten> ie: when I use a heavy js page I choose Location  Open with  whatever
[03:25] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: the first run wizard installs a gui shredder for you
[03:25] <snikker> runlevelten: i've tried with firefox and opera, but nothing change...
[03:25] <Azzco> I'll just try rebooting
[03:26] <runlevelten> what page, snikker?
[03:26] <seanpcrowe|> nope runlevelten, didnt... i will uninstall and reinstall to see if it works then...
[03:27] <snikker> it's a local page... just a moment that i search for an on-line page...
[03:27] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: you need to choose to
[03:27] <seanpcrowe|> kgpg looks like a key managment app and nothing more... mmmmm... perhaps i am installing the wrong thing
[03:28] <richips> How can I remove the last 3D accelerator driver installment I tried and start a new clean one for my ATI Radeon?
[03:29] <richips> It's all messed up...
[03:29] <richips> I have the Mesa Drivers, but no 3D direct rendering.
[03:29] <code_x> hello, i need some help on setting up wirless can someone point me to the ndiskwrapper how to ?
[03:29] <richips> And trying the wiki method doesn't work.
[03:29] <richips> !ndiswrapper
[03:30] <runlevelten> kgpg is a integrated gpg software, that comes with a nice little shredder utility.
[03:31] <adenicio> i want to watch videos in streamin buit firefox need real player but it cant install wath could i do?
[03:31] <stdin> code_x: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:31] <adenicio> runlevelten: ???
[03:31] <runlevelten> You choose to install it in the first run wizard when it asks you if you want to install the shredder?
[03:31] <snikker> runlevelten: http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/  (clik on an image)
[03:31] <code_x> thanks
[03:31] <adenicio> runlevelten: yes then it said no plugin was install
[03:32] <slougi> snikker: that works ok for me, around 10% cpu taken by X
[03:32] <BluesKaj> is there an official "Icon" theat comes with acidrip ? mine is missing
[03:33] <runlevelten> snikker: yeah, it's fine for me - using konqy.
[03:33] <spiroo> hello
[03:33] <snikker> slougi: what graphic card did you have? i go up to 96%
[03:33] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten> You choose to install it in the first run wizard when it asks you if you want to install the shredder <---- no, it just appeared in my utilities menu runlevelten...
[03:34] <snikker> runlevelten: what graphic card did you have? i go up to 96%
[03:34] <spiroo> I got serious problems with Gutsy when I was booting today as usual. The grpahic card and screen does not wanna come along I guess. And this is because nVidia drivers or a core problem when I was update.
[03:34] <runlevelten> snikker: it goes up to 34% or so and back down to 1.7% almost immediately.
[03:34] <slougi> snikker: a built in intel one
[03:34] <slougi> gm945 i think or something like that
[03:35] <spiroo> The screen light blinks alla the time after the loading bar have exit, just where nVidia logo is showed up.
[03:35] <runlevelten> well firstly, kgpg -X <filename> shreds stuff.
[03:35] <snikker> slougi: i've got an nvidia with nvidia official drivers... :-(
[03:35] <slougi> snikker: what cpu?
[03:36] <spiroo> This happened after an update/upgrade in adept
[03:36] <snikker> slougi: amd64 4000+
[03:36] <snikker> slougi: what could be the problem?
[03:36] <spiroo> But, it has always been working before, not sure why me just now
[03:36] <slougi> snikker: hmm interesting, do you maybe use beryl or compiz?
[03:36] <adenicio> stdin: how do i install real player for linux?
[03:37] <snikker> slougi: yes, i've beryl installed... but it's not running now...
[03:37] <runlevelten> secondly, you can change first run to true in ~/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc and get the opportunity to put the shredder icon on your desktop again if you need it :)
[03:37] <stdin> adenicio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:37] <runlevelten> or you can make a shortcut yourself if you can do that.
[03:37] <slougi> snikker: no idea really, sorry
[03:37] <snikker> slougi: ok. thanks...
[03:37] <slougi> snikker: you could try profiling to see where the time is spent
[03:37] <spiroo> anyone know about the latest updates for gutsy which destroyed my computer? :D
[03:38] <snikker> slougi: i've not idea how to do it... can you help me?
[03:38] <spiroo> i think it is like linux-image or anything like it
[03:39] <runlevelten> thirdly, you could add it to the recycle bin's context menu, but it would probably be better as a clickable icon or menu entry, then you could avoid creating a nasty kludge to get it on there :)
[03:39] <slougi> snikker: i wish i had some more time, but i can't walk you through it just now, but if you're up to it you can google for example oprofile
[03:39] <runlevelten> s/recycle /waste/
[03:39] <slougi> snikker: also the xorg mailing list is pretty friendly, if you want to go straight to them to ask
[03:39] <spiroo> runlevelten, stdin: Anything you know about monitor changes in last updates?
[03:40] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, ok dude i will try that, but, i have been poisoned by winblows so how do i get to ~/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc ???
[03:40] <seanpcrowe|> lulz
[03:40] <snikker> slougi: ok, i'll do as you said... thanks :-)
[03:40] <stdin> spiroo: asked in #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:40] <slougi> snikker: no problem =)
[03:40] <maher> hello
[03:40] <runlevelten> just press alt + F2 and drop this in there :)
[03:40] <runlevelten> kate ~/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc
[03:40] <seanpcrowe|> awesome =)
[03:41] <spiroo> nope guess I have to do. I ***** hate this. God is really against me, he does not want me to use linux. Maybe the god is Bill gates? .D
[03:41] <runlevelten> spiroo: If Bill Gates were God, you think air would be free?
[03:42] <spiroo> haha marbe not, but who knows ;P
[03:42] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, ok i got this, but there is no reference to first run... http://rafb.net/p/SPZdaX84.html
[03:42] <adenicio> stdin: how do i add " deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to my repos?
[03:43] <runlevelten> [General Options]
[03:43] <runlevelten> First run=false
[03:43] <runlevelten> haha, true even
[03:43] <seanpcrowe|> rofl
[03:43] <seanpcrowe|> kk... i'll do that
[03:44] <seezer> adenicio: through "manage repositories" in adept manager or by adding the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <stdin> adenicio: you add it to the 3rd part software tab in adept, but change "dapper-commercial" to the right version, eg "feisty-commercial"
[03:45] <maher> asdasd
[03:46] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, \o/
[03:46] <adenicio> stdin: change dapper-commercial" to the right version, eg "feisty-commercial that part i dont understand
[03:47] <seanpcrowe|> you have provin your self a gentleman and a scholar yet once again...
[03:47] <seanpcrowe|> lol, thx dude =)
[03:47] <stdin> adenicio: are you on feisty edgy or dapper ?
[03:47] <adenicio> stdin: feisty
[03:47] <stdin> adenicio: then change it to "feisty-commercial"
[03:48] <manchicken> Anybody know how to change what time backup manager kicks off?
[03:48] <elite101> anyone here use the multi-protocal messenger "pidgin"?
[03:48] <elite101> instead of kopete?
[03:49] <manchicken> elite101: I've used it before.  Why?
[03:49] <elite101> ahh is it any good?
[03:49] <adenicio> stdin: evi try to change it it crashese
[03:50] <manchicken> elite101: I prefer Kopete.
[03:50] <elite101> like real "msn"? i need an msn messenger that can make audio conversation
[03:50] <elite101> in kopete its only webcam
[03:50] <elite101> i tried kopete/aMSN
[03:50] <manchicken> elite101: I don't know if kopete lets you do that or not.
[03:50] <adenicio> stdin: i tink it because of this update thing
[03:50] <manchicken> err, pidgin
[03:50] <emonkey-p> afaik there is no linux audio msn client
[03:50] <seanpcrowe|> mmmm, doesn't seem to be much HDD activity when droped into the shredder... but i'm sure it works...
[03:51] <elite101> no it doesnt so i have been trying like alot of messengers
[03:51] <manchicken> I know that pidgin is still called gaim in feisty though, if you want to try it out.
[03:51] <elite101> yeah
[03:51] <elite101> well i just downloaded it now
[03:51] <manchicken> Give it a shot.
[03:52] <elite101> my as well
[03:54] <elite101> lol its weird in the folder where pidgin was extracted there is a text file that says "hacking" ?? and a link saying for hacking pidgin please visit...
[03:57] <mrksbrd> I need to edit my sources list, where would i give permissions to myself to be able to edit it????????????
[03:57] <SlimeyPete> use sudo.
[03:58] <SlimeyPete> "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list", or similar if you us ea different editor
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ok ty
[04:01] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: to shred and empty your wastebin:
[04:07] <lire> bonjour
[04:07] <runlevelten> http://pastebin.com/m4f15d943
[04:07] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: ^
[04:09] <lire> hallo
[04:10] <lire> i use ubuntu 6.06 and have a problem with apache; any apache expert here please?
[04:12] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, awesome dude... thx a bunch... =)
[04:12] <Assid> lire: always mention what the error is too
[04:12] <runlevelten> np
[04:12] <lire> when i type this command: /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[04:13] <lire> i got this error msg: * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... grep: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha-httpd.conf: none file or directory of that type
[04:13] <Assid> lire: an im guessing you checked whether that file exists?
[04:13] <runlevelten> Oh quick caveat seanpcrowe| - when you shred, directory names can be (potentially) recoverable.
[04:13] <runlevelten> Just so you know.
[04:13] <Assid> yo rl
[04:14] <runlevelten> hey Assid. How goes man?
[04:14] <lire> my aim is not to check that file; i just want to start apache server
[04:14] <Assid> not bad.. helping my bro pickup a laptop.. and i gotta get some work done
[04:14] <seanpcrowe|> kk runlevelten, have been reading up on suecure shreadding today in work... thats good to know
[04:15] <lire> lire: eererrer
[04:15] <Assid> you apparently modified the httpd .. and therefore informed it to see that file. if you did.. you now have to make sure that file exists and has the config you want
[04:15] <Assid> ELSE .. put back the original httpd.conf file or any other config file
[04:15] <Assid> hrmm i better pay the isp their cheque and soon
[04:16] <runlevelten> encrypted loops for the win though.
[04:16] <runlevelten> they shred just lovely.
[04:16] <Assid> encrypted loops?
[04:16] <Assid> wtf.. someone elighten me
[04:18] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to remote connect with vncviewer without announcing to the host that you've connected?
[04:18] <runlevelten> Oh God, I just went to put SG1 on, and keyed in 166 instead of 106. MacGyver came on, so I got Jack O. N. with a puzzling blond mullet.
[04:19] <genii> BluesKaj: MacGyverese
[04:20] <runlevelten> *#kubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <BluesKaj> yup, i'm there
[04:21] <Assid> hrmm
[04:22] <Assid> i need a good FTP client
[04:22] <spiroo__> KFTPGrabber
[04:22] <aaron__> Assid: filezilla
[04:22] <Assid> i wish flashfxp was for linux
[04:22] <BluesKaj> FF has a decent one from all reports
[04:22] <aaron__> I use winscp under wine. but don't tell anyone.
[04:22] <RurouniJones> Heresy!
[04:23] <Assid> FF ?
[04:23] <Assid> firefox ?
[04:23] <spiroo__> yes ff is firefox
[04:23] <Assid> im used to flashfxp.. brilliant under windows.. but reports are sketchy for wine support
[04:23] <spiroo__> But the actual acronyme is FX and not FF
[04:24] <spiroo__> smartftp is the greatest in windows :P
[04:24] <BluesKaj> get off the pot spiroo__ , no one refers to fireFox as FX . it's FF
[04:24] <spiroo__> no, look on W3C for yourself.
[04:24] <spiroo__> FF is wrong
[04:24] <Assid> nah.. flashfxp ftw.. but i need  something under nix
[04:25] <spiroo__> use KFTPGRABBER. I lovei t
[04:25] <BluesKaj> no matter , the vernacular is what most ppl use here
[04:25] <aaron__> Assid: or filezilla. or gftp.
[04:25] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to remote connect with vncviewer without announcing to the host that you've connected?
[04:25] <spiroo__> BluesKay: No
[04:25] <spiroo__> :D
[04:25] <Assid> i tried kasablanca.. it aint bad.. but lots of features missing
[04:25] <runlevelten> You use winscp under wine?
[04:25] <aaron__> yes.
[04:26] <slougi> ouch
[04:26] <slougi> :)
[04:26] <slougi> why not konqueror with fish:// or sftp:// ?
[04:26] <aaron__> because i don't want to use konq with fish:// or sftp://
[04:26] <spiroo__> btw. FTP in Linux is far away than using FTP in Windows
[04:26] <runlevelten> That's... that's like using wine to run minesweeper on windows...
[04:27] <spiroo__> *far away faster ;P
[04:27] <BluesKaj> spiroo__, ok I bt if you start using the FX reference, most users will ask you what you mean, but if you use FF , most will know you are referring to FireFox and won't ask you :)
[04:27] <spiroo__> I mean the transfer not the application
[04:27] <aaron__> It's fine for the litlte bit I use it.
[04:27] <slougi> aaron__: any particular reason? just out of interest.
[04:27] <aaron__> because I'm also a windows network admin. i like to keep it the same when i can.
[04:27] <Assid> i like queues and stuff
[04:27] <aaron__> and there's nothing wrong with it.
[04:27] <spiroo__> BluesKaj: I know what FF is, but the correct thing is FX trust me
[04:27] <Assid> and the proxy nat support etc on flashfxp just rocks!
[04:28] <spiroo__> hehe not any features I need :P
[04:28] <spiroo__> Just want to connect and transfer fast ;P
[04:28] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter , most will think you are talking about "effects" as in the movie "FX"
[04:28] <aaron__> i also use outlook 2003 w/ crossover office. there's nothing in linux that compares.
[04:29] <runlevelten> Well each to their own, but I still think you're bonkers.
[04:29] <Assid> hehehe
[04:29] <slougi> aaron__: i've no problem with that, but i agree with runlevelten on the winscp bit
[04:29] <spiroo__> Anyway BluesKaj: As I work with webdesign and webdevelopment I know, but sure I could use FF in just this channel if you want :D
[04:29] <slougi> :)
[04:29] <spiroo__> openoffice?
[04:30] <spiroo__> aaron__: openoffice then?
[04:30] <slougi> it's not really as good as ms office
[04:30] <runlevelten> aaron__: SSH on windows tends to boil down to a few half-boiled ports of really great unix utilities, so you can see why I'd be shocked. :)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> use what you want , I'm pointing out that common usage usually overrides official names :)
[04:30] <aaron__> spiroo__: an outlook replacement isn't a part of openoffice.
[04:30] <runlevelten> slougi: the trial of ms office forbids copy and paste to other apps. It got worse than notepad the second they had that idea.
[04:30] <spiroo__> BluesKaj: I know but I am trying to change on that ;P But sure FF if you want so
[04:31] <slougi> runlevelten: heh wow
[04:31] <aaron__> runlevelten: show me something that's like or better than winscp and i'd happily evaluate it.
[04:31] <slougi> runlevelten: still, ms office is faster, more stable, nicer looking, easier to use, and more versatile than openoffice, at least according to my experience.
[04:31] <runlevelten> No business I know of can afford to have its information held hostage for any reason. Nice of Microsoft to give a heads-up in we can see during a feasibility test though.
[04:31] <slougi> i really really deterst oo.o
[04:31] <lire> assid: i've found the solution
[04:31] <slougi> detest*
[04:31] <lire> thanks
[04:31] <spiroo__> aaron__: There is better email clients. I was also comparing windows software with linux software in the beginning. but I have discovered thata there is better software in Linux, ususally anyway :P
[04:32] <spiroo__> And try Thunderbird then maybe?
[04:32] <runlevelten> slougi: all agreed - but if the information can be held hostage like that, what alternatives are they offering?
[04:32] <aaron__> thunderbird is pale in comparison.
[04:32] <Assid> outlook ?
[04:32] <Assid> err.. if you wanna compare against outlook you can always try out evolution
[04:32] <runlevelten> depends what for, though
[04:32] <slougi> runlevelten: i see your point and agree, but it just is impossible to use openoffice sometimes
[04:33] <aguitel> how to add session in kubuntu like in gnome?
[04:33] <spiroo__> aaron__: hehe maybe
[04:33] <crube> For some reason when I log into Fluxbox it doesn't mount my external HD. What does Kubuntu use for this? I need to know so I can run it in fluxbox aswell
[04:33] <slougi> runlevelten: for all of my own stuff i use mostly lyx anyway
[04:33] <runlevelten> slougi: openoffice export ruined my resume once, did I mention that?
[04:33] <slougi> runlevelten: no, but you did now ;)
[04:33] <aaron__> i don't like all of the damn carats that email clients stick in there. outlook keeps the conversation clean and nice. 30 replies into an email with something like thunderbird, and you can't read your mail because of all of the >>>>>
[04:33] <runlevelten> I found a bug which only manifested itself in one instance, and ended up mailing a broken layout.
[04:34] <aaron__> i know that those are RFC compliant, but i don't care. it's annoying
[04:34] <Assid> aaron_: you can modify that
[04:34] <runlevelten> aaron__: You can adjust those.
[04:34] <NickPresta> aaron_, there are various extensions for Thunderbird which allow for "clean quotes"
[04:34] <runlevelten> I've known companies where outlook is banned, actually, heh.
[04:34] <Assid> actually i need one of those
[04:34] <aaron__> NickPresta: its ugle for the other half too
[04:34] <Assid> err.. outlook causes way too many issues for me
[04:35] <runlevelten> aaron__: what is it you like in scp?
[04:35] <slougi> personally just use kontact/kmail ;)
[04:35] <Assid> 1 single folder for all my emails ? damn scary though
[04:35] <slougi> seems to work pretty well
[04:35] <Assid> err.. single file
[04:35] <Assid> if the pst gets corrupt.. which it does..  you lose everything
[04:35] <runlevelten> kmail is a dream once you're used to it.
[04:35] <Assid> err.. i tried kmail runlevelten
[04:35] <runlevelten> Especially for the integration and the configurability.
[04:35] <slougi> runlevelten: well, it does have its bugs
[04:35] <Assid> had to move back to thunderbird
[04:35] <Assid> i mean its nice.. brilliantly fast..
[04:36] <Assid> but wayy too many issues for me
[04:36] <slougi> Assid: like what?
[04:36] <runlevelten> what issues man?
[04:36] <aaron__> runlevelten: i don't know really.
[04:36] <slougi> i haven't had any big ones
[04:36] <NickPresta> I don't like Thunderbird anymore either. I much prefer KMail to TB.
[04:36] <Assid> first and foremost.. multiple pop accounts dont have seperate root folders
[04:36] <slougi> Assid: that's very easy to fix
[04:36] <runlevelten> aaron__: I assume you're aware that you can attach an ssh folder in KDE and use it like a folder or webdav thingy?
[04:37] <aaron__> runlevelten: yes.
[04:37] <aaron__> i just use it for light file transfer now and then.
[04:37] <runlevelten> and what didn't you like about that?
[04:37] <aaron__> i have a vpn between the places i need.
[04:37] <Assid> runlevelten: not if it uses an identity file
[04:37] <spiroo__> seems like outlook is better kind a :D
[04:37] <Assid> slougi: make a folder inside and use rules?
[04:37] <runlevelten> Assid: I have different folders for different pop accounts
[04:38] <runlevelten> No, you specify it in the account's settings.
[04:38] <Assid> runlevelten: seperate root folders?
[04:38] <slougi> Assid: for instance
[04:38] <runlevelten> ie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with inbox trash sent etc<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with...
[04:39] <Assid> slougi:  yeah i know i can have a seperate inbox per account.. but i want it at the root level.. like how you do for imap accounts
[04:39] <lieke> i have a problem with installing ubuntu
[04:39] <lieke> someone who can help me plz??
[04:39] <runlevelten> Assid: "local folders" is a mechanism to separate it from searches, etc.
[04:39] <Assid> probably
[04:39] <crube> For some reason when I log into Fluxbox it doesn't mount my external HD. What does Kubuntu use for this? I need to know so I can run it in fluxbox aswell. It's not it fstab, so I'm quessing it's some program
[04:39] <spiroo__> lieke: what is the problem?
[04:40] <slougi> lieke: just ask, don't ask to ask ;)
[04:40] <lieke> well, when i"m buzzy installing, it stops at 70%
[04:40] <Assid> i dont know. im gonn wait for kmail to fix those bugs.. till then.. thunderbird seems to do the task
[04:40] <Assid> its slower tho.. thats waht i dont like about thunderbird
[04:40] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to remote connect with vncviewer without announcing to the host that you've connected?
[04:40] <Assid> its soooo much more faster under windows :|
[04:40] <runlevelten> I don't think the local folders paradigm is going anywhere to be honest...
[04:41] <spiroo__> lieke, what happends on 70 percent?
[04:41] <lieke> it stops and it isnt installed
[04:41] <lieke> the window is gone
[04:41] <lieke> i checked the cd on faults
[04:41] <aaron__> problems with kmail: replies at the bottom, and the damn carats.
[04:41] <Assid> i wish they do something about the speeds in tbird.. its freaking slow
[04:41] <lieke> faults = errors
[04:41] <spiroo__> uhm, maybe corrupt data on your linux CD?
[04:41] <slougi> Assid: the firefox/thunderbird code base is pretty horrible, at some point i looked at how difficult it would be to add qt support to firefox (there used to be support for this many moons ago), it was ridiculously difficult
[04:41] <Assid> aaron_:  you can change that
[04:41] <lieke> no i checked for errors
[04:42] <Assid> slougi: didnt even know thats possible
[04:42] <spiroo__> Hmm not sure if it just crashes like that. Could be anything. Which dist?
[04:42] <lieke> kubuntu
[04:42] <Assid> man my compiz benchmark just goes slower and slower
[04:42] <spiroo__> Gutsy, Feisty?
[04:42] <Assid> hold on.. jumpting to kwin
[04:42] <slougi> Assid: that's how they do cross-platform support, they abstract everything away under a layer of c++ and javascript, the codebase is very crufty
[04:42] <lieke> now i booted from the cd and it shows the login window
[04:43] <lieke> feisty yes
[04:43] <spiroo__> hmm, not quite sure, what that could depends on, anyone else know?
[04:43] <lieke> whats the password for the login window, spiroo__
[04:43] <maverick_> guys, i always forget this command...the one which outputs the system devices logs...someone could remind me?
[04:44] <Assid> one sec.. rerstarting X
[04:44] <slougi> maverick_: dmesg ?
[04:45] <lieke> password for the login window with username ubuntu? someone?
[04:45] <slougi> lieke: what do you mean?
[04:45] <lieke> i booted from the cd. normally it goes to kde without asking for a login but now suddenly it does...?
[04:46] <spiroo__> what? should not ask for password
[04:46] <lieke> indeed, strange hey?
[04:46] <slougi> lieke: it probably installed ok and you booted from hd
[04:46] <spiroo__> Now I really not know. Yes very strange
[04:46] <slougi> there's really no way the livecd asks for a password
[04:46] <spiroo__> slougi, maybe
[04:46] <Assid> hrmm
[04:46] <lieke> i tried to login from lieke but it failed
[04:46] <Assid> apparetly didnt need to eeven do that
[04:46] <runlevelten> If you haven't installed, it sounds like a corrupt CD or a stuffed up drive to me.
[04:47] <Assid> just jump to kwin and backl
[04:47] <aaron__> i don't see where to remove the carat'ing in kmail. anyone help?
[04:47] <lieke> i copied the cd already 5 times
[04:47] <slougi> aaron__: for quoting previous mails?
[04:47] <lieke> ^^
[04:47] <aaron__> yeah.
[04:48] <lieke> i reboot now and try again
[04:48] <slougi> aaron__: in the settings composer sheet -> templates tab
[04:48] <aaron__> k
[04:49] <slougi> there's quote indicator etc.
[04:49] <slougi> click on "How does this work?" for help ;)
[04:50] <aaron__> slougi: cool. i didn't see that those are tab thingers.
[04:50] <aaron__> :)
[04:50] <slougi> aaron__: yeah i had that widget myself as well
[04:50] <slougi> toolbox i think it is called
[04:51] <lieke> it's booting normal guys!
[04:51] <lieke> i press the installbutton ^^
[04:51] <lieke> once!
[04:52] <lieke> my friend told me to make a bootpartition, is this necessary
[04:53] <aaron__> kmail won't let you NOT have a quote indicator.
[04:53] <lieke> ?
[04:53] <voidmage> My installer is stuck at "Running grub-install (hd0) 94%"
[04:53] <voidmage> is that the last thing it does
[04:53] <voidmage> and if so, is it safe to kill ubiquity and run it myself?
[04:53] <maverick_> slougi: yess,,, thnx
[04:53] <lumark> can you help me with adept??
[04:54] <lieke> voidmage, mine is also!
[04:54] <lieke> at the normal install
[04:54] <ubuntu_> www.aol.de
[04:55] <lieke> do i have to make a bootpartition?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> aol germany ...gawd
[04:56] <Artimus> lieke: As in for /boot?
[04:56] <brendan___> Hello, i have a nfs mounted /home, with works great, except that there is a link to /home on anyones desktop who logges into the computer
[04:56] <brendan___> is there a way to dissable this?
[04:56] <voidmage> anyone know what to do about ubiquity being stuck at 94% grub-install?
[04:56] <lieke> yes
[04:56] <lieke> Artimus, yes as in for /boot
[04:57] <brendan___> voidmage, how long has it been at 94%
[04:57] <voidmage> about 10 minutes
[04:57] <voidmage> maybe longer
[04:57] <Artimus> lieke: I'd recommend *NOT* making a separate boot partition.  It just adds complexity and ways for things to go wrong
[04:58] <lieke> okey! thanks ^^
[04:58] <BluesKaj> lieke, boot partition ? you  mean bootloader like grub ?
[04:58] <runlevelten> brendan___: alt + F2  Desktop  Behaviour  Device Icons and uncheck "Mounted NFS shares"
[04:58] <Artimus> BluesKaj: No, mounting /boot on its own partition
[04:58] <BluesKaj> not a good idea
[04:58] <runlevelten> or similar entry.
[04:59] <Artimus> BluesKaj: It's an ok practice, it won't hurt anything if you know what you're doing.  "If you're unsure if you need a separate boot partition, then you don't need one"
[04:59] <lieke> is gentoo more difficult than ubuntu? becuz otherwise i install gentoo
[04:59] <BluesKaj> the bootloader does use the first 512 bytes on the HDD from what I've read , but using a partition
[05:00] <NickPresta> I have a mysql account that I created when I compiled mysql from source. I would like to keep this account but I don't want it to show in the user list. I want it to be part of the "system accounts". How can I do this?
[05:00] <Artimus> lieke: Slightly more difficult.  However, Ubuntu takes me about 30 minutes to install.  Gentoo about 3 hours.
[05:00] <voidmage> what's the command to see what processes are using a file?
[05:00] <Artimus> voidmage: perhaps lsof
[05:00] <BluesKaj> lieke, whynot go visit gentoo then , we support kubuntu here
[05:00] <lieke> ok, but Artimus, the installer failed for the 6th times and i'm busy for 3 hours soooo....
[05:01] <Artimus> lieke: Where did it fail?
[05:01] <brendan___> voidmage, fuser for a specific file
[05:01] <voidmage> hmm.
[05:01] <voidmage> why is grub-install STILL running
[05:01] <lieke> but i want ubuntu! not gentoo
[05:01] <Artimus> lieke: Where did the (K)ubuntu installer fail?
[05:01] <lieke> always at another place
[05:01] <brendan___> voidmage, you could use strace and see what its doing
[05:01] <runlevelten> lieke - are you trying to install to a dell optiplex?
[05:01] <Artimus> Sounds like a bad disk.  Reburn the CD.
[05:01] <lieke> sometimes at 70%, sometimes at 30...
[05:01] <brendan___> voidmage, strace -p PID
[05:01] <voidmage> it's a cd from shipit.
[05:02] <brendan___> voidmage, where PID is the pid of grub-install
[05:02] <lieke> no runlevelten, on a benq
[05:02] <BluesKaj> lieke, this is Kubuntu , you want Ubuntu type, /join #ubuntu
[05:02] <lieke> no its kubuntu, typo
[05:03] <runlevelten> !begentle
[05:03] <Artimus> I'm gussing badly downloaded ISO, badly burned cd, or scratched cd
[05:03] <Artimus> I'm off, migrating my Debian box to Kubuntu
[05:03] <lieke> no Artimus, i checked the cd for errors
[05:03] <lieke> and i copied already 6 times Artimus
[05:03] <lieke> !!
[05:03] <runlevelten> or strange mobo chipset.
[05:03] <Artimus> lieke: Did you verify th DOWNLOAD?
[05:04] <lieke> no not realy
[05:04] <lieke> from site do you download
[05:04] <brendan___> runlevelten, thanks allot
[05:04] <runlevelten> lieke: well that's zero checking done then.
[05:04] <runlevelten> brendan___: No probs at all :)
[05:04] <lieke> how do you check?
[05:04] <lieke> runlevelten?
[05:04] <Assid> hrmm
[05:04] <Assid> kftpgrabber seems nice
[05:05] <Assid> so far
[05:05] <Artimus> lieke: What OS is on the box that has the .iso downloaded?
[05:05] <lieke> windows xp
[05:05] <lieke> i have the md5sum
[05:05] <voidmage> it was so messed up i had to reboot
[05:05] <runlevelten> http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS
[05:05] <voidmage> guess i'm starting this over again
[05:05] <lieke> i have this site runlevelten ^^
[05:05] <Artimus> lieke: runlevelten gave you the link to the MD5sums.  Download that file to the same folder as your ISO.  Then download this: http://www.toast442.org/md5/
[05:06] <runlevelten> lieke: you cannot use an md5sum from a website to check. There is NO way you just ran an md5sum check on the iso between those two lines.
[05:06] <lieke> tnx Artimus
[05:06] <lieke> tnx runlevelten
[05:06] <runlevelten> lieke: No probs at all.
[05:07] <runlevelten> lieke: It's possible you have screwy hardware, you know. Where did you say it was freezing?
[05:07] <Artimus> lieke: Best of luck.  I'll probably be back on IRC in a few minutes while Kubuntu is installing if you need further help.  Just leave me a message in the channel with my name in it.
[05:07] <lieke> at different places (70% , 30%)
[05:07] <lieke> tnx arti
[05:07] <voidmage> can i strace a running process?
[05:08] <runlevelten> lieke: Do you have an i810 or unichrome integrated GPU?
[05:09] <lieke> runlevelten, i 950 or nvidia
[05:09] <runlevelten> and does it spit an error at you, or does the display unceremoniously die?
[05:09] <runlevelten> or something else?
[05:10] <lieke> it dies
[05:10] <NickPresta> !away | kaminix
[05:10] <runlevelten> goes black?
[05:10] <NickPresta> ubot =(
[05:10] <runlevelten> and does the machine reboot at that point?
[05:11] <lieke> no,goes desktop
[05:11] <lieke> no, runlevelten
[05:11] <kaminix> NickPresta: What?
[05:11] <runlevelten>  so the screen doesn't go black or anything?
[05:11] <lieke> the download is correct, checksum maches, runlevelten
[05:11] <lieke> no runlevelten, it goes to desktop
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !ubotu
[05:13] <lieke> runlevelten, can i click the installbutton or do you know the problem?
[05:13] <lieke> artimus, the md5sum is correct
[05:13] <runlevelten> lieke: are you able to paste the output of tail -n 100 /var/log/installer/syslog into pastebin?
[05:13] <Artimus> lieke: bummer
[05:13] <runlevelten> and provide me with the URL
[05:14] <BluesKaj> I guess ubotu is off line ATM ...dunno why . I assume the ops are working on it.
[05:14] <runlevelten> ubotu's having an operation.
[05:14] <BluesKaj> heh
[05:14] <BluesKaj> brain transplant ?
[05:14] <Artimus> I rather like this livecd installer.  Konsole, Kopete, and Konqueror are nice to have while installing.
[05:14] <lieke> but i have to leave the gui to use the comment and then i cant login again
[05:15] <runlevelten> leave the gui?
[05:15] <runlevelten> You should start an x terminal
[05:15] <lieke> no its okay sorry, runlevelten
[05:16] <runlevelten> np :)
[05:16] <lieke> okay and what do you want to know?
[05:16] <lieke> runlevelten, what do you want to know
[05:16] <runlevelten> paste the output of tail -n 100 /var/log/installer/syslog into pastebin.com and give the url you end up at
[05:17] <Artimus> Does anyone use package sources other than the standard Ubuntu ones?  Right now, the only other source I've got is for Wine.  I'm wondering if there are any other popular choices.
[05:17] <code_x> hello, i need help setting up ndiswrapper, can any point me to a how to ?
[05:17] <lieke> okey tnx runlevelten
[05:17] <Assid> damn
[05:17] <Assid> someone wanna help me move 140 domains across servers ;)
[05:17] <Assid> hehe
[05:18] <lieke> http://pastebin.com/d6b0221cd
[05:19] <code_x> how do i get my wireless setup ?
[05:19] <lieke> runlevelten, http://pastebin.com/d6b0221cd
[05:19] <thedeath> hola buenas
[05:19] <thedeath> alguien que able espaol?
[05:20] <runlevelten> You don't have /var/log/installer/syslog?
[05:20] <lieke> no, runlevelten
[05:20] <stdin> thedeath:  Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:20] <lieke> the mapinstaller doesn't exists
[05:20] <runlevelten> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:20] <NickPresta> Artimus, I use the Medibuntu source, trevino, and the Subpixel Fonts rendering package,
[05:20] <thedeath> gracias
[05:21] <Artimus> NickPresta: Yeah, I just found Medibuntu hrough google, I'm glad I don't have to build those myself.
[05:21] <lieke> runlevelten, i didn't installed yet, maybe that's why it doesnt exist
[05:22] <runlevelten> o, is this a fresh boot?
[05:22] <lieke> yes
[05:22] <runlevelten> Heh :)
[05:22] <runlevelten> Well let's try and get that file after the install fails without rebooting :)
[05:22] <lieke> i asked you if i had to press the installbutton ^^
[05:22] <BluesKaj> Artimus, there's also Seveas and if you really wanna load up the sources try source-o-matic
[05:22] <lieke> okey  runlevelten ^^
[05:23] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic
[05:23] <lieke> sorry :s
[05:23] <runlevelten> a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:23] <runlevelten> nothing to be sorry for at all, matey
[05:23] <aguitel> is there something wrong coexist adep with synaptic ?
[05:24] <NickPresta> aguitel, nope.
[05:24] <BluesKaj> no, both can co-exist , aguitel
[05:25] <jussi01> you just cant run them both at the same time
[05:25] <lieke> it starte runlevelten
[05:25] <runlevelten> Good, good.
[05:26] <lieke> copying files...
[05:26] <aguitel> i am asking because when are to aplication in my desktop everytime when i try to open ( or adept or synaptic) nothing happens and in the seconds instance ( both works)
[05:27] <lieke> 37%...
[05:28] <lieke> go Guido!
[05:28] <lieke> (that's the name of my pc ^^)
[05:28] <voidmage> is it supposed to take a really long time to partition?
[05:28] <voidmage> I always forget, especially when dealing with laptops
[05:29] <lieke> runlevelten, it stopped at 54%!
[05:30] <lieke> now he only knows version runlevelten
[05:30] <lieke> i see /var/lo/installer/version
[05:30] <lieke> nothing else
[05:30] <trekdanne> how can I start a konsole without any kwin borders?
[05:30] <runlevelten> paste the output of tail -n 100 /var/log/installer/syslog into pastebin.com and give the url you end up at
[05:31] <lieke> he cannot open such file runlevelten
[05:31] <runlevelten> trekdanne, that's in the altf3 menu, i expect you can set a window-specific behaviour in kcontrol
[05:31] <runlevelten> try /var/log/syslog again then
[05:31] <lieke> ookee
[05:32] <lieke> okay! it works
[05:33] <ubuntu_> hola hay alguien de colombia
[05:33] <lieke> pastebin.com/d42ee847c runlevelten
[05:34] <runlevelten> Ouch. whaddya think of that, stdin?
[05:34] <stdin> not good, that's for sure
[05:35] <Tm_T> lieke: how much ram?
[05:35] <trekdanne> runlevelten: i was actually looking for some option to kstart or konsole itself so i could start it from the console
[05:35] <runlevelten> Looks like bad burns
[05:35] <lieke> 1024 i think
[05:35] <Tm_T> ok
[05:35] <lieke> it's a centrino 2
[05:35] <runlevelten> lieke: you may be burning coasters
[05:35] <lieke> what do you mean runlevelten?
[05:35] <Tm_T> lieke: you checked disc?
[05:36] <lieke> yes
[05:36] <Tm_T> ok
[05:36] <lieke> and the sum also
[05:36] <ubuntu_> alguien qu e hable espaol
[05:36] <Tm_T> !es | ubuntu_
[05:36] <Tm_T> gah
[05:36] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: #ubuntu-es
[05:36] <stdin> ubuntu_:   Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:36] <Tm_T> stdin: haha
[05:37] <runlevelten> could be all sorts of stuff. Bad burns would be the nicest one. :(
[05:38] <stdin> hmm, now I need some milk to go with them...
[05:38] <lieke> but i tried to copy it already 6 times and on 2 different pcs :s
[05:38] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[05:38] <genii> Bah I forgot the bot is on holiday :)
[05:38] <Tm_T> lieke: try alternate install
[05:38] <stdin> stdin: Wow!  anyone encounter this before with mplayer?
[05:40] <lieke> this is my 7th cd, guys.. and i'm a student
[05:40] <lieke> burning at 4x
[05:40] <slougi> seanpcrowe: yes, it means the ouput plugin could not be initialised. which one are you using?
[05:40] <slougi> output
[05:40] <slougi> arg
[05:40] <stdin> seanpcrowe: try -vo xv
[05:40] <slougi> output*
[05:41] <seanpcrowe> lol slougi... how do i change the plugin,,, from within mplayer its self??
[05:41] <slougi> seanpcrowe: in the settings, i don't use it and don't quite recall
[05:42] <stdin> seanpcrowe: the settings are stored in ~/.mplayer/config
[05:42] <slougi> look for video output settings
[05:42] <seanpcrowe> kk guys...
[05:42] <slougi> stdin: aren't the settings for gmplayer in a different file though?
[05:42] <voidmage> hmm.
[05:42] <voidmage> now it's stuck at 94% configuring hardware
[05:42] <stdin> ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
[05:43] <runlevelten> mplayer configuration. now there be dragons :\
[05:43] <lieke> i will not sleep until kubuntu is installed!
[05:43] <seanpcrowe> ok i alt-F2 then "kate ~/.mplayer/gui.conf"
[05:44] <Fraction> anyone have an idea what might be wrong with my gfx card / driver? It shows glxgears and can display the opengl acceleradet screen savers, but if I try some other program ( for instance tuxkart) I get alot of flicker on the screen
[05:44] <seanpcrowe> ok guys this is what i got http://rafb.net/p/Cw6CBb86.html
[05:46] <stdin> seanpcrowe: see ' vo_driver = "xmga"' change it to ' vo_driver = "x11" '
[05:46] <seanpcrowe> ok...
[05:46] <seanpcrowe> what does that mean??? (changing it now)
[05:46] <Xera^> What driver should I be using with an ATi 9250 PCI card?
[05:47] <Xera^> FGLRX won't work
[05:47] <Xera^> X doesn't start. :/
[05:47] <stdin> seanpcrowe: you had it set to use the driver for "Matrox G200/G4x0/G550"
[05:47] <slougi> Xera^: the radeon driver
[05:47] <slougi> Xera^: fglrx doesn't support chips below r300
[05:47] <seanpcrowe> lol stdin...
[05:48] <slougi> seanpcrowe: also try xv in place of x11, it should be a bit faster and scale the content also
[05:48] <Xera^> slougi, you mean that crap driver made by ATi? :(
[05:48] <slougi> Xera^: fglrx is made by ati, the "radeon" driver comes with X
[05:48] <Xera^> oh
[05:48] <Xera^> :P
[05:48] <slougi> ;)
[05:48] <Blauhaut> hiyaaa
[05:49] <Blauhaut> guys my kubuntu is just mount the dvds
[05:49] <Blauhaut> not normal cds
[05:49] <seanpcrowe> same error... i will try "xv" now
[05:49] <elite101> Hey, im having sound problems i have a creative card and i cant seem to hear sound online? like on youtube or anything i can play songs on my computer and watch videos and hear them its just that online i cant hear anything neither on Konqueror/Firefox?
[05:50] <Blauhaut> seanpcrowe;  xv  ?
[05:50] <seanpcrowe> mmmm, when i change the setting, when i restart mplayer,,, it over writes the change back to the matrox one >.<
[05:50] <elite101> i think im going to have to uninstall firefox and re-install?
[05:50] <seanpcrowe> Blauhaut, a setting in mplayer...
[05:50] <Blauhaut> k
[05:51] <elite101> anyone have that problem b4? ^^^
[05:51] <slougi> elite101: what do you mean? youtube is online too
[05:51] <elite101> yeah but anything on the webbroswer
[05:51] <elite101> i can play videos ones i downloaded
[05:51] <stdin> seanpcrowe: you can set it in gmplayer, right-click it > preferences
[05:51] <elite101> and songs i downloaded its just when anything audio on the webbroswer is playing i cant hear it?
[05:52] <seanpcrowe> yeah, i am in the video part now stdin
[05:52] <elite101> i tried changing Kmix settings but nothing is working? is it both the browsers's? i tried Konqueror and Firefox...
[05:52] <seanpcrowe> and i see the matrox one there... but no way for me to manipulate it
[05:53] <lieke> guys,can i update an old version of kubuntu?
[05:53] <elite101> !upgrade
[05:53] <elite101> ......
[05:53] <stdin> seanpcrowe: just select the vx or x11 one
[05:53] <elite101> !update
[05:53] <elite101> xD
[05:53] <stdin> lieke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:53] <stdin> elite101: not bot in here today
[05:54] <seanpcrowe> stdin, awesome dude... i do the sillyest things sometimes >.< lol
[05:54] <lieke> i caN?this is the end of my boyfriend 's live
[05:54] <seanpcrowe> thanks stdin & slougi =)
[05:54] <stdin> lieke: follow the link i gave you
[05:55] <lieke> i do
[05:55] <lieke> tnx stdin
[05:55] <Xera> 553 frames in 5.0 seconds = 110.574 FPS
[05:55] <Xera> That's less than what I was getting with the ati driver
[05:55] <Xera> :|
[05:56] <seanpcrowe> one last question guys... this one is even sillyer... where do i change the applications that open for filetypes?
[05:56] <stdin> seanpcrowe: in konqueror, settings > configure konqueror > file associations
[05:57] <stdin> seanpcrowe: or just right click the file and select "open with" then check the "Remember association for this type"
[05:57] <seanpcrowe> awesome stdin... thanks once again =)
[05:58] <stdin> :)
[05:59] <elite101> stdin, has a huge brain and is very smart :)
[06:00] <stdin> erm, ok :p
[06:00] <elite101> lol
[06:00] <local> can you hear me?
[06:00] <elite101> what?
[06:00] <elite101> i cant hear u
[06:00] <Xera> No we can't
[06:00] <stdin> local: no, but I can read what you type
[06:00] <local> lol
[06:01] <local> anyway what is the name of that compitabilty thingy?
[06:01] <stdin> which one? wine?
[06:01] <local> yah that was the name
[06:02] <elite101> ;)
[06:02] <elite101> lol
[06:03] <elite101> i got a new nvidia card :)
[06:03] <elite101> well i wouldnt call it new but,
[06:03] <elite101> better than 8mb
[06:03] <elite101> its 64mb Nvidia TNT something..
[06:04] <elite101> has anyone played Vicecity on linux? using wine?
[06:05] <Fraction> is there a good way to check whether your gfx card works properly?
[06:05] <elite101> run a game?
[06:05] <elite101> lol
[06:05] <elite101> but there is a better way,
[06:06] <Fraction> tuxkart kinda works.. it's some flicker.. but the gl accelerated screensavers works without a problem
[06:06] <elite101> well i will be right back im going to buy a Blank CD for Xubuntu
[06:06] <elite101> bye
[06:08] <raylu> Fraction, what brand?
[06:08] <Fraction> intel
[06:08] <Fraction> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[06:09] <Fraction> I have some problems with opengl and wanna know whether its the gfx card thats wrong or something else
[06:09] <stdin> Fraction: the intel drivers are open source so are installed by default. what problems are you having?
[06:09] <neverblue> crontab: '53 8 * * * user xset -display :0.0 dpms force off' command line: 'xset -display :0.0 dpms force off'. The command line works perfect, but the crontab command does not, am I doing something wrong?
[06:11] <Fraction> stdin: when I start for instance tuxcart black boxes or sprites is visible for a millisecond or so (flicker?) also when playing movies, if I move the kaffeine window in which the movie is played it turns blue
[06:11] <Fraction> the last of those 2 isnt really a problem but it shouldnt be that way, right ?
[06:12] <stdin> Fraction: are you using beryl or compiz too?
[06:13] <Fraction> stdin: nop
[06:14] <stdin> Fraction: I have the same card, the only time I get that "blue" effect with moves is when using a 3d window manager
[06:16] <Xera> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[06:16] <Xera> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[06:16] <Xera> ATi officially SUCK
[06:16] <Fraction> stdin: ok strange, do you have any other problems with your opengl?
[06:16] <Fraction> cause I have when playing opengl-games
[06:16] <Fraction> but not with opengl screensavers which is strange
[06:17] <stdin> Fraction: nope, all works as it should. but I am using the "intel" video driver, not the "i810" one
[06:19] <Fraction> stdin: when I use that driver I get huge font
[06:19] <Fraction> its like 3 letters populate the entire screen
[06:20] <boubbin> when i go kcontrol i dont find the "managing of the mountpoints" -tool there anymore, i have tweo kubutus installed in two different machines, the other one has the other dont. how come ?
[06:21] <Fraction> stdin: if I change driver take a printscreen and put a link to the file, you think u could look at it and see if its a "common problem" ?
[06:21] <stdin> Fraction: sure
[06:26] <dwidmann_> stdin: running gutsy eh?
[06:26] <stdin> yep
[06:28] <local> why cant i download exe files?
[06:28] <dwidmann_> Mine is some awkward combination of Feisty and Gutsy, but at least it worked with minimal effort :)
[06:28] <dec_> how can I check to see the version of kde I am running?
[06:28] <stdin> dec_: in any kde app, Help > About KDE
[06:29] <dec_> thanks
[06:31] <local> why cant i download exe files
[06:31] <dwidmann_> local: you can't? I don't see why you'd want to, but I don't see any reason they wouldn't be downloadable either ...
[06:32] <raven24> hello! I have a problem with my new notebook: no sound...
[06:32] <dwidmann_> What does it do when you try?
[06:32] <Fraction> sigh, how do I take a screenshot at the "login"-state
[06:32] <local> i wanna test to use exe files with the wine
[06:33] <dwidmann_> raven24: Sometimes it's just muted, you sure it's not muted?
[06:33] <maverick_> who's responsible for ubuntu's repos. ?
[06:34] <raven24> yes absolutely sure... i looked up my chipset at google and i found out that it could be a problem with the kernel module
[06:35] <dwidmann_> what chipset is it?
[06:35] <raven24> lspci says: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:37] <dwidmann_> raven24: type lsmod | grep snd, what modules are listed?
[06:38] <agresor> Hello i have big problems with Burning CD, I have DVD-RW and CD-RW  2 rooms' and I can not burn anything with k3b or cd-burner.    BURN PROCES FAILED. CAn anyone Help PLEASE ?????
[06:39] <raven24> snd_hda_intel, snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm, snd_seq_dummy, snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi, snd_rawmidi, snd_seq_midi_event, snd_seq, snd_timer, snd_seq_device
[06:41] <Fraction> is it possible to take a screenshot before you have logged in?
[06:41] <agresor> Hello i have big problems with Burning CD, I have DVD-RW and CD-RW  2 rooms' and I can not burn anything with k3b or cd-burner.    BURN PROCES FAILED. CAn anyone Help PLEASE ?????
[06:42] <drewcipher_> agresor, I was having the same issue.   I don't have the correct fix but I was able to work around  by launching from sudo on command line    sudo k3b
[06:43] <agresor> drewcipher_,  :s
[06:43] <agresor> uhh
[06:44] <agresor> How tof ix ?
[06:44] <drewcipher_> agresor, I'd try with sudo k3b.  if it works then you know it is just a matter of permissions.
[06:44] <agresor> drewcipher_,  i truyed .. still not working.
[06:45] <dwidmann_> agresor: if it really is permissions issues, in k3b go to settings -> setup systems permissions
[06:45] <raven24> dwidmann_: according to google snd_hda_intel is the correct module, but still no sound
[06:45] <drewcipher_> agresor;  drats
[06:45] <dwidmann_> raven24: hmm, yeah, sounds right
[06:46] <drewcipher_> dwidmann:  I'll try it out.  thanks.
[06:46] <jerware> i just coppied a file to my usb drive.
[06:46] <jerware> umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[06:46] <agresor> drewcipher_,  what about drats ?
[06:46] <jerware> i just  want my usb drive.
[06:46] <SubOne> can anyone tell me the imagemagick command to convert a png to 24bit?
[06:47] <drewcipher_> oh, sorry.  drats was slang for "son of a !@#!"
 I really don't know what you'll be able to do from there though. Maybe crimsun would know, he's positively brilliant when it comes to sound related stuff.
[06:48] <maverick_> SubOne: it's very laggy
[06:48] <maverick_> SubOne: very slow
[06:48] <SubOne> maverick_: not for me
[06:48] <dwidmann_> maverick_: afraid I can't agree, I don't think it sucks in Feisty
[06:48] <raven24> dwidmann_: thanks, i'll ask him...
[06:49] <maverick_> it was woking great in edgy , now in fesity i populate my media library and everything goes messy and keeps halting then coming back
[06:51] <SubOne> can anyone tell me the full imagemagick command to convert a png to 24bit?
[06:51] <agresor> SubOne, man imagemagick
[06:51] <agresor> ;p
[06:54] <SubOne> agresor: is it -posterize?
[07:03] <crube> What does kubuntu use to automount hd's? My fluxbox doesn't automount my USB-HD, so I need to know if there's some program I need to run for it to work.
[07:07] <pascal> Is there a small command-program or script that can send mail through smtp?
[07:08] <Roey> em
[07:08] <Roey> hi
[07:09] <Roey> I mounted an SSH volume with FUSE, and I get this when I try to list the directory as a non-root user:
[07:09] <Roey> ?--------- ? ?    ?          ?                ? home
[07:09] <Roey> what the heck is that???
[07:12] <stdin> Roey: don't mount it as root then...
[07:12] <Roey> stdin:  how do I enable users to mount fuse volumes, then?
[07:13] <stdin> Roey: they should already be, as long as they are in the fuse group
[07:16] <Roey> stdin:  ahhhhhhhhhh ok then.
[07:16] <Roey> thanks
[07:16] <Roey> fuse groupp.
[07:17] <Roey> aye
[07:19] <Tm_T> Roey: you use sshfs or fuse straight?
[07:20] <Roey> sshfs
[07:21] <Roey> I'm in the fuse group...er... I added my user just now to to the fuse group in /etc/fuse, but I forgot how to add it to my user in their current shell (I tried newgrp roey but it rejects my password)
[07:21] <llutz> Roey: addgroup user fuse
[07:22] <Roey> ahh ok
[07:22] <Roey> thanks :)
[07:22] <Roey> 13:21:43 ~ sudo addgroup roey fuse
[07:22] <Roey> The user `roey' is already a member of `fuse
[07:23] <llutz> ups, read you wrong. your user has to re-login to let change take effect
[07:23] <Roey> right but
[07:23] <Roey> eh
[07:23] <Roey> llutz:  I tried newgrp but it wants a password and rejects anything I give it.
[07:25] <kruemel_> hi, im using skype, and i can hear everybody, but cant talk, i also can hear my own voice, but the others dont.. well same as teamspeak.. what can i do?
[07:26] <llutz> kruemel_: set capture device to mic in kmix, alsamixer
[07:27] <kruemel_> llutz: well i tryied to set up the Mic Capture in alsamixer, but nothing hjappened.. but u mean something other or?
[07:28] <kruemel_> llutz: i tihnk i know what u mean.. the Mic-in mode.. but do you have the script for the console?
[07:29] <llutz> kruemel_: a script? usually you only need to set the capture-flag on "mic" and adjust the levels to your needs
[07:29] <kruemel_> llutz: it is micin...
[07:29] <kruemel_> llutz: well it is, but the other can hear me
[07:30] <kruemel_> cant*
[07:30] <llutz> no idea then,sorry
[07:30] <kruemel_> well, i can hear my own voice in the speaker.. but the other not
[07:32] <llutz> kruemel_: use alsamixer and press F4
[07:32] <kruemel_> llutz: then?
[07:33] <llutz> kruemel_: you should see "mic" with capture-flag and "capture" with a level >0
[07:34] <kruemel_> llutz: i see "mic" [capture]  all and on the bottom "100"
[07:35] <llutz> kruemel_: are you sure having configured the right device in skype?
[07:36] <kruemel_> llutz: how to save?
[07:36] <llutz> kruemel_: esc  then "sudo alsactl store"
[07:37] <kruemel_> llutz: thx :)
[07:37] <kruemel_> llutz: grat. it works
[07:39] <elite101> how do i check what kinda of ethernet pci card i have in Kubuntu 7.04?
[07:39] <elite101> i need the model #
[07:39] <llutz> elite101: lspci
[07:39] <elite101> whats that?
[07:39] <elite101> konsole?
[07:39] <llutz> yes
[07:40] <elite101> thanx
[07:40] <drewcipher_> lspci - lists all PCI devices
[07:40] <llutz> elite101: look for "Ethernet" or "Network"
[07:40] <elite101> yeah
[07:40] <elite101> i got it now
[07:40] <elite101> D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet
[07:42] <combo> how to install all necessary NON-FREE codecs like w32codec and all music? untill today i've used AUTOMATIX so there were no problems... 'sudo apt-get install ... ' ? :}
[07:45] <combo> can some1 help how to install those non-free codecs ? don't u listen mp3 ?!
[07:45] <BluesKaj> combo , make sure your sources list has the seveas or medibuntu repos and you can 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[07:46] <combo> BluesKaj: ok, done... and what else codecs are needed ?
[07:46] <combo> BluesKaj: cuz i guess that it's not all ?
[07:46] <BluesKaj> and xine-extrcodecs and libdvdcss2
[07:46] <elite101> when i go to "storage media" all that it shows is a folder and its named "cdrom0" ? there is no HDD there?
[07:46] <BluesKaj> xine extracodecs
[07:47] <BluesKaj> err  xine-extracodecs
[07:47] <combo> BluesKaj: ' sudo apt-get install xine extracodecs ' is that right command ? :]
[07:47] <wastedfluid> hello.  just installed kubuntu .. removed gnome.  when i click on the computer, and select "home folder" (to open home folder) - it asks me what to open it with..
[07:47] <combo> BluesKaj: key
[07:47] <martijn81> combo: no, sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs is
[07:47] <combo> BluesKaj: is there anything else from codecs ? :)
[07:47] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs
[07:48] <elite101> mhmm how do i bring up fstab?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> don't forget libdvdcss2 , for dvd playback
[07:48] <combo> BluesKaj: ok, xine done
[07:48] <combo> BluesKaj: oka
[07:49] <combo> - libdvdcss2, also done
[07:49] <combo> BluesKaj: is this everything ? :)
[07:49] <elite101> how do i get fstav?
[07:49] <elite101> fstab*
[07:49] <combo> BluesKaj: also music will be working ?
[07:50] <elite101> im trying to mount my HDD
[07:50] <elite101> its in fat32 formatt but it wont mount it on "Filesystems"
[07:50] <elite101> in admin tools
[07:50] <runlevelten> !skanks
[07:50] <ubotu> see !mneptok
[07:51] <elite101> !fstab
[07:51] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:51] <local> hi how do i install ncurse from xlink kai
[07:51] <elite101> ahhh hey
[07:51] <elite101> u
[07:51] <BluesKaj> elite101, in the run box , kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:51] <elite101> local, my hero
[07:51] <local> ?
[07:51] <elite101> u got xlink working?
[07:51] <elite101> :)
[07:51] <local> nope
[07:51] <elite101> ahh
[07:51] <local> are you?
[07:51] <elite101> well if u get it to work can u msg me lol
[07:51] <elite101> yeah i was trying
[07:52] <local> hiow did you fo?
[07:52] <local> do*
[07:52] <elite101> it was missing some files
[07:52] <local> yeah me too
[07:52] <elite101> or something i got it installed and such but it wouldnt run
[07:52] <local> yuo
[07:52] <local> p
[07:52] <elite101> its there fault or something they didnt make it rite
[07:52] <local> yup
[07:52] <local> i am trying ncurse right now
[07:52] <local> but it wont work
[07:52] <elite101> there is something i found on the internet its like a GUI
[07:52] <local> hmm
[07:53] <elite101> it boots up the orbital and such for Xlink
[07:53] <kalorin> !image magik
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image magik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <elite101> i tried windows Xlink but obv its not going to work :(
[07:53] <elite101> local, what are u hooking up to xlink with? ps2/xbox/psp etc.
[07:53] <kalorin> !convert
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <local> hmm xbox
[07:54] <elite101> yeah
[07:54] <elite101> same*
[07:54] <elite101> Halo2?
[07:54] <local> yup
[07:54] <elite101> :)
[07:54] <local> !xlink
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <elite101> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <elite101> go there for a sec
[08:00] <Dexter_F> so there's mirrror.noreply.org which has later TOR packages for feisty - but are they trustworthy? who runs it?
[08:01] <Dave132> whats the best way to view internet video on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:02] <arun> Dave132: internet video? what format
[08:02] <Dave132> arun windows media
[08:03] <Daisuke-Laptop> mplayer plugin + w32codecs, maybe?
[08:03] <arun> Dave132: install the mplayer plugin for firefox
[08:03] <grayson> !wifi
[08:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:04] <grayson> !paste
[08:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:04] <Dave132> arun,have that and still have problems
[08:04] <arun> Dave132: what problems
[08:05] <BluesKaj> Dave132, and if you want to view youtube videos , you'll need the flash plugin as well
[08:05] <Roey> hey guys
[08:05] <grayson> hi intelikey
[08:05] <Dave132> arun, currently using gxine and getting demuxer errors
[08:05] <Roey> llutz:  I tried mounting when I had the fuse group, and I  STILL got an error message ("can't open /dev/fuse").  I do have the fuse module loaded.  What could be wrong, do you think?
[08:06] <intelikey> grayson
[08:06] <Dave132> blueskaj, flash works fine
[08:06] <grayson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34685/
[08:07] <BluesKaj> good, Dave132
[08:07] <llutz> Roey: /dev/fuse is owned root:fuse?
[08:07] <grayson> can someone look at that and tell me what the DISABLED means?
[08:07] <x86__> Hi, what is the best codec pack to play mp3 and video files?
[08:08] <grayson> iwlist
[08:08] <Roey> llutz:  right
[08:08] <grayson> !mp3
[08:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:08] <Roey> llutz:  and it's not user-anything (in terms of perms)
[08:08] <grayson> x86__: ^^^
[08:08] <Roey> llutz:  it's root.root
[08:08] <llutz> Roey: it should be root:fuse
[08:09] <intelikey> grayson i'll go out on a limb and say that the network interface is "disabled" at the moment, i.e. ifconfig eth# down         or up to activate
[08:09] <Roey> oh, ok.
[08:09] <Roey> llutz:  well this is all kubuntu I changed it on.
[08:09] <Roey> So I don't know why it's not like that already
[08:09] <BluesKaj> grayson, disabled could mean it doesn't detect a Local area network , hence disabled
[08:10] <Roey> llutz:  ok pefect! It worked!  Thanks
[08:10] <grayson> intelikey: That gives me no such file or directory
[08:10] <Dave132> the mplayer plugins are very unreliable, seems like websites are purposly designing videos not to work with linux
[08:10] <llutz> Roey: fine
[08:10] <grayson> hi BluesKaj
[08:11] <BluesKaj> Dave132, the xine plugin for FF seems to work better than the mplayer
[08:11] <grayson> intelikey: sudo iwconfig gives me a eth1 assigned to the card
[08:11] <Dave132> BluesKaj, ill try those,thanks
[08:11] <BluesKaj> hi grayson
[08:12] <Dave132> is xine better than gxine?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> gxine is for the gnome desktop
[08:13] <BluesKaj> both will work tho , Dave132
[08:13] <grayson> I see that the kill switch for the wireless if off can generate the DISABLED moniker
[08:13] <Dave132> BluesKaj, i know but most kde and gnome work interoperably on either system
[08:14] <Dave132> inm still getting alot of demuxer errors
[08:15] <intelikey> grayson either way  for what ever cause,  the interface is "off"  whether hard or soft control.
[08:15] <x86__> How i can download & install it?
[08:16] <grayson> intelikey: Ok I'll hit the forums
[08:16] <grayson> x86__: Do you have multiverse enabled?
[08:16] <intelikey> that's what the   *-network DISABLED   is telling you.
[08:17] <x86__> Multiverse? Sorry, but i dont know it. just 4 hours using kubuntu.
[08:18] <intelikey> grayson it can also mean it has no driver (module) inserted, i think.
[08:19] <intelikey> !repos | x86__
[08:19] <ubotu> x86__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <intelikey> x86__ you should probably have a read there ^    and welcome.
[08:19] <grayson> intelikey: no it does I checked that already
[08:20] <grayson> I'm setting up ndiswrapper now
[08:20] <intelikey> if the module is inserted you don't need ndiswrapper   :)
[08:20] <grayson> intelikey: but it doesn't work :)
[08:21] <combo> - i have question: how can i add such music toolbar to the PANEL http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8835/screenxw6.png ? in Kubuntu LTS i had no problem with it but now i can't solve that ? :[
[08:26] <intelikey> hmmm i need a four pole dubble throw switch....  don't seem to have one....
[08:34] <kenro> When's Hte gibbon scheduled to be released?
[08:35] <intelikey> !schedule
[08:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:35] <kenro> Okay. When was Bambi released?
[08:36] <intelikey> 7 & 4
[08:36] <kenro> intelikey:  Translate, ease?
[08:37] <kenro> intelikey:  Translate, please?
[08:38] <intelikey> 2007 & month 4
[08:38] <intelikey> 7.04
[08:38] <intelikey> or 7.4
[08:38] <Schuenemann> hey, I need help, I changed video card and can't start X
[08:39] <intelikey> Schuenemann sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:39] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, what video card did you buy ?
[08:39] <drif> monitor & display settings somehow buggy? when I enter admin mode and try to swap to widescreen I cannot apply my changes
[08:39] <Schuenemann> I did that, I can only start it with 8 bit depth color
[08:39] <BluesKaj> drif, did you logout and back in  after the changes ?
[08:40] <drif> BluesKaj: I don
[08:40] <noesis> Schuenemann: which chipset are you using?
[08:40] <drif> BluesKaj: sorry mispressed my keyboard
[08:40] <drif> BluesKaj: I mean, I don't have to click apply first?
[08:40] <Schuenemann> noesis, I only know it's an intel onboard
[08:40] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , intel onboard
[08:41] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, but i guess you bough a new one ? thats how you changed it.
[08:41] <grayson> intelikey: So you are saying that ndiswrapper is not needed?
[08:41] <[ifroog] > err, Added newone.
[08:41] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , sorry, I don't understand
[08:42] <Schuenemann> it's intel onboard
[08:43] <noesis> Schuenemann: put in your livecd.. let it start.. if it starts correctly with opengl support
[08:43] <intelikey> grayson i'm saying that if you dont have to insert some propritary non-free restricted windows only driver then you dnot need an application made specifficly for that purpose
[08:43] <noesis> check your xorg.conf and see which driver is being used
[08:43] <Schuenemann> noesis, when it start, will it replace xorg.conf?
[08:44] <noesis> no Schuenemann.. it will be an xorg.conf in memory
[08:44] <intelikey> grayson and if the card/chip is supported by linux then you don't.    if it's not supported, then you do i guess.
[08:44] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, I changed video card and can't start X ?? So i guessed your first card was onboard.
[08:44] <Schuenemann> then I copy it?
[08:44] <kenro> intelikey:  Right. Thanks. Which means I gotta put up with networking  and timekeeping instability for too long.
[08:44] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , no, it was a nvidia geforce
[08:45] <Schuenemann> the motherboard was changed too
[08:45] <noesis> Schuenemann: yes.. you may try,. if the driver is present in your disk isntall it should work
[08:45] <noesis> just first make backup of your current xorg.conf
[08:45] <noesis> you may need to review your settings later
[08:45] <Schuenemann> why? it has the old card :-P
[08:45] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, do you still have the nvidia on ?
[08:45] <[ifroog] > card*
[08:45] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , no, I don't have an agp slot anymore
[08:46] <noesis> even onnboard uses virtual agp
[08:46] <noesis> it should not matter
[08:46] <drif> BluesKaj: now I lost all resolutions except 640x480 - getting bit crowded
[08:46] <Schuenemann> how am I going to connect an agp card when I don't have an agp slot in my card? ...
[08:46] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, DO you know how to use vim ?
[08:46] <Schuenemann> motherboard*
[08:47] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , well, a bit
[08:47] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann,  sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:47] <Schuenemann> I'm using windows now
[08:47] <Schuenemann> I found the kubuntu disk, I'll try the livecd
[08:48] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, Locate the Line Driver "nv" OR Driver "nvidia"
[08:48] <BluesKaj> drif , sorry i was called away for a min . yes you have "apply" your changes then logout and back in .
[08:48] <grayson> intelikey: I hear you :) but it's being stupid right now
[08:48] <intelikey> grayson k.
[08:48] <drif> BluesKaj: sigh..like I said - I cannot apply the changes...and now after restarting X I lost all resolutions except 640x480
[08:49] <Schuenemann> [ifroog] , and?
[08:49] <grayson> intelikey: ndiswrapper is as well if it's any consolation
[08:49] <wastedfluid> hey guys; iwconfig ath0 reports a 93% link quality, yet, knetworkmanager shows 3/4.. anyway to correct this?
[08:50] <[ifroog] > and change it to Driver "vesa" or Driver "i810"
[08:50] <[ifroog] > Schuenemann, try the latter first.
[08:50] <kenro> BTW, anyone know how to fix the timekeeping instability? I don't always boot up into Inet, so crontab or startscrpit isn't practical.
[08:51] <noesis> Schuenemann: insert i810 where you had nvidia or nv...
[08:51] <Lynoure> kenro: how unstable is your clock?
[08:52] <noesis> Schuenemann: i would first insert the live cd and check what the livecd uses in Driver "mychipset" section and use it
[08:52] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try the livecd first
[08:52] <Schuenemann> brb
[08:54] <Lynoure> kenro: ntpdate on anacron should help some, ntpd even more. But if it is e.g. defaulting to an ancient time at every boot, motherboard battery might be dead...
[08:54] <kenro> Lynoure:  About 5 hours later than tz, and ntpdate doesn't stick.
[08:55] <Lynoure> kenro: and it's a physical computer and not a virtual one?
[08:55] <kenro> Lynoure:  Elaborate, please?
[08:55] <Lynoure> kenro: xen used to have an annoying clock bug, making ntp not stick either
[08:55] <juan> hi
[08:56] <intelikey> to sync the hwclock with a time server  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39130
[08:56] <Lynoure> kenro: If you don't know what I mean with asking if it is a virtual computer, it's probably physical, that is, running directly on the hardware and not in VMware or Xen
[08:56] <kenro> Lynoure:  *shrug* I know only it's no vm, it's Kubuntu, it's gutsy gibbon prerelease.
[08:58] <juan> i want to put a lamp server, after this just a xfce desktop and a proftpd, but what can i do if i dont have a internet conection on that server????????''
[08:58] <kenro> Lynoure:  Current date, just 5 hours later than tz and ntp doesn't stick.
[08:58] <juan> root
[08:58] <Lynoure> kenro: then people at #ubuntu+1 know more about the unreleased versions
[08:59] <Lynoure> kenro: but check the link intelikey pasted, maybe it helps
[08:59] <intelikey> juan you can dl the packages on another box and transfer them by disk ?
[08:59] <kenro> ah. Thanks for the reminder. :)
[08:59] <Lynoure> kenro: have you tried ntpd yet?
[08:59] <thehcdreamer> Hello, i'm sorry if i'm using this chat, but what is the contrary of "disabled" in english? thanx
[08:59] <Lynoure> thehcdreamer: enabled
[08:59] <thehcdreamer> thanks
[09:00] <juan> is enabled
[09:00] <juan> disabled enablewd
[09:00] <grayson> !lamp
[09:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:01] <kenro> Lynoure:  er... I say, no startup script or crontab, as I don't always boot up into Inet.
[09:02] <Lynoure> kenro: the daemon won't start unless it can synch once... but I'm not forcing solutions to people
[09:02] <intelikey> mv /etc/adjtime /etc/adjtime.bak ;ln -s /dev/null /etc/adjtime
[09:03] <Lynoure> kenro: (that is, unless it is messed up in gutsy)
[09:04] <kenro> Lynoure:  Right. I better ask +1 before mucking the shell.
[09:04] <Lynoure> even if you go offline for days, it will still be fine, if configured decently.
[09:06] <intelikey> heh one reboot and you can have "timestamp to far in the future" errors galore
[09:06] <juan> there is a problem when you try to install some thinmgs in the ubuntu server 6.06 yo must be conected to the internet in order to download the repositories, so what can i do for insatlling whitout internet conection
[09:06] <intelikey> grayson (: i wondered who held the other end of this rope.
[09:07] <elite101> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <elite101> dont mind that^
[09:07] <grayson> intelikey: I don't think sarcasm comes across well
[09:07] <intelikey> it wasn't.
[09:07] <grayson>  it's taking me 72 days to download gcc
[09:07] <elite101> hey im having problems with my HDD
[09:08] <elite101> its a FAT32 partition but i need to edit FSTAB
[09:08] <seanpcrowe> lol, hey all
[09:08] <elite101> but i cant remember how to edit it or even bring it up
[09:08] <seanpcrowe> how do i tell hoe much drive space i got left?
[09:08] <seanpcrowe> *how
[09:08] <elite101> :P
[09:08] <intelikey> elite101 kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:08] <juan> i went to a ububtu machine with internet and download the repositories in var/cache/apt/archives, so i copy to aa usb memory and copy into the same directory into the server so i cant install the x sustem and xfce and proftpd
[09:09] <elite101> thanx
[09:09] <elite101> intelikey*
[09:10] <Lynoure> intelikey: if that warning was addressed to kenro, better address it to him directly as he missed the link you meant for him too. But, no, well configured ntpd should not do that at reboot, and if you are worried, you can make a shutdown script that purges sudo timestamps
[09:10] <intelikey> elite /dev/<device> /<mountpoint> vfat defaults,uuid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0  0
[09:10] <elite101> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[09:10] <elite101> whats that mean?
[09:11] <elite101> whats mountpoiint?
[09:11] <ehc> where can I add a script to be ran on startup?
[09:11] <juan> how i can install apps n my lamp server whitout internet connection
[09:11] <juan> ????????
[09:11] <Schuenemann> noesis it started, the driver was i810
[09:11] <intelikey> means "ignore me, i'm a stupid error message that should have been dumped in /dev/null"
[09:11] <elite101> errr
[09:12] <elite101> its reading the FSTAB and HDD but i cant see them?
[09:12] <intelikey> serious
[09:12] <Schuenemann> now, how do I mount my pendrive?
[09:12] <grayson> intelikey: I swear if I look at it it slows it down
[09:12] <elite101> UUID=783add3c-d3dc-4009-9715-2a7372464aa2 none swap sw 0 0
[09:12] <elite101> HDB1
[09:12] <Lynoure> Schuenemann: usually, just by plugging it in
[09:12] <elite101> sorry
[09:12] <grayson> juan:sudo dpkg -i *
[09:12] <elite101> i mean HDA5
[09:12] <noesis> Schuenemann: your opengl screensavers work?
[09:13] <elite101> last time i enabled a HDD it screwed up my system
[09:13] <elite101> like badly
[09:13] <Schuenemann> noesis I'm back at shell, I need to replace the xorg.conf
[09:13] <Schuenemann> Lynoure I have no X
[09:13] <elite101> mhmm when i open up storage media it shows only a folder and its "cdrom0"
[09:13] <elite101> it doesnt show any HDD's?
[09:14] <elite101> i have fstab open now and there is like 3diff, devices and stuff
[09:14] <elite101> o_0 very confusing
[09:14] <intelikey> you asked for the command line and fstab syntax   i gave both.        and you should look at     blkid     to understand what the UUID=  is.
[09:15] <Schuenemann> what is the command to mount the pendrive? mount dest ???
[09:15] <Lynoure> Schuenemann: you could try plugging it in, and seeing what it appeared as (usually /dev/sdsomething) and using mount to mount that. But someone else will prolly want you through it in detail
[09:15] <Lynoure> Schuenemann: see   man mount   for details
[09:15] <Schuenemann> how am I going to know the correct sd?
[09:16] <intelikey> Schuenemann that's what he's saying.   plug it in and  read dmesg
[09:16] <Schuenemann> ahh, dmesg
[09:16] <Lynoure> Schuenemann: it's the one you did not have before plugging it in. But, really, I'm not sure how kubuntu handles that outside X. I tend to use debian on my bare boxes
[09:16] <elite101> wow this is confusing to many ppl?
[09:16] <Schuenemann> I guess I'll have to quit bitchx, brb
[09:16] <elite101> pendrive?
[09:16] <elite101> i have a HDD
[09:17] <intelikey> elite101  /dev/<device> /<mountpoint> vfat defaults,uuid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0  0
[09:17] <seanpcrowe> hey all... this is amazing, i sooooooo cant tell how much space i got left...
[09:17] <elite101> just copy it in and save?
[09:17] <intelikey> or use the UUID if you prefer
[09:17] <seanpcrowe> how do i do it?
[09:17] <elite101> i dont understand what ur talking about?
[09:17] <intelikey> no  translate everything within  <>
[09:17] <elite101> errr its annyoing to many ppl
[09:18] <elite101> ahh k
[09:18] <elite101> ic lol
[09:18] <intelikey> seanpcrowe  df -h
[09:18] <BluesKaj> seanpcrowe, hard drive space ?
[09:18] <seanpcrowe> BlueDevil, yeah lol
[09:19] <BluesKaj> df -h , as intelikey says
[09:19] <seanpcrowe> ahhhhhh, thank you guys... that was doing my head in...lol
[09:20] <intelikey> ksysguard can check disk space too
[09:20] <intelikey> it probably runs   df
[09:20] <intelikey> :)
[09:21] <elite101> im scared im going to screw up my sys with fstab i will make a pastebin so u can see how its setup its very weird intelikay,
[09:21] <elite101> intelikey*
[09:22] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ROOT!
[09:22] <intelikey> open a konsole and do     sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup
[09:22] <Schuenemann> Tm_T huh?
[09:22] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: Schuenemann<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:23] <Schuenemann> what about it?
[09:23] <Tm_T> you should not irc as root
[09:23] <Schuenemann> why?
[09:24] <seanpcrowe> do you guys know if kubuntu can play 720p .mkv's ???
[09:24] <Schuenemann> intelikey I have reasons to believe it's in /dev/sdc
[09:24] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: http://www.bsd.org/faq.html#rootsucks
[09:25] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: yay
[09:25] <intelikey> !virus | Schuenemann for a better understanding of why you shouldn't run as root
[09:25] <Schuenemann> Tm_T I'll read it when I recover X, ok?
[09:25] <ubotu> Schuenemann for a better understanding of why you shouldn't run as root: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:25] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: ;)
[09:25] <intelikey> Schuenemann please read            ^
[09:25] <Schuenemann> how am I going to read that?
[09:25] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: I can privmsg you too if you like
[09:25] <elite101> intelikey,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34692/
[09:25] <Schuenemann> Tm_T how about if you tell me how to mount my pendrive, so I can recover X and read it myself? :p
[09:26] <intelikey> Schuenemann w3m http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:26] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: mount /device /destination
[09:26] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: next?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> doesn't work
[09:26] <frojnd> hello tehre. While I try to install kubuntu I get this error message: buffer I/o error on device fd0, logical block 0. What does this mean ???????
[09:26] <Schuenemann> don't I need to say the filesystem?
[09:26] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: then say it
[09:27] <Schuenemann> mount -t vfat /dev/sdc ~/pen ?
[09:27] <Tm_T> yes?
[09:27] <Tm_T> if it's vfat
[09:27] <intelikey> no you do NOT need to say the fs type.
[09:27] <Schuenemann> it didn't work and I forgot to copy the error message
[09:27] <Tm_T> intelikey: I think so too
[09:28] <Schuenemann> what does this mean? -> usb-storage: device found at 4
[09:28] <elite101> intelikey, did u check out the pastebin? its very confusing...
[09:28] <atomicpotato> it found a mass storage device attached at USB node 4?
[09:28] <Schuenemann> that was the output for dmesg
[09:28] <Schuenemann> atomicpotato where is usb node 4?
[09:29] <atomicpotato> dunno, it depends on the system. It should be one of your USB jacks.
[09:29] <elite101> jacks? u mean ports?
[09:29] <intelikey> elite101 is it hdb1 you are concerned with ?
[09:29] <elite101> yeah
[09:29] <Schuenemann> I'd better check what was the error message, brb
[09:30] <elite101> so it shows in "file systems" in Kcontroll but its just i cant enable it so i can use it
[09:30] <elite101> the slave HDD^
[09:30] <intelikey> elite101 /dev/hdb1 <mount\040point> auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid
[09:30] <intelikey> wait
[09:30] <elite101> 2 zero's
[09:31] <elite101>  /dev/hdb1 <mount\040point> auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[09:31] <intelikey> elite101 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 auto user,users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[09:31] <intelikey> try that   ^
[09:31] <elite101> okay
[09:31] <intelikey> are you sure of the fstype ?   is it vfat ?
[09:31] <grayson> anyone have any dies how I can test if apt-get is hung
[09:31] <grayson> ideas
[09:31] <elite101> no its fat32
[09:32] <intelikey> yeah vfat
[09:32] <elite101> k
[09:33] <intelikey> elite101 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0
[09:33] <intelikey> alternativly   i would sujest that   ^
[09:33] <elite101> ahh
[09:33] <elite101> well i just used the other one
[09:33] <intelikey> test them both.
[09:33] <elite101> The system reported: mount: mount point /media/hdb1 does not exist
[09:34] <elite101> errr?
[09:34] <intelikey> see which you like.
[09:34] <intelikey> sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb1
[09:34] <elite101> k
[09:34] <intelikey> elite101 a mountpoint is simply a dirrectory to mount the fs onto
[09:34] <Schuenemann> these are the errors produced by "mount /dev/sdc pendrive" -> cramfs: wrong magic -> VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdc -> Mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:35] <elite101> yeah well last time i mounted another HDD to the "/" mount point :(
[09:35] <elite101> it wouldnt boot up KDE :(
[09:35] <intelikey> elite101 lol
[09:35] <elite101> it was my mistake
[09:36] <intelikey> unless you use unionfs mounts    anything existing in the dir that you select for a mountpoint is inaccessable until you dismount the fs
[09:36] <Schuenemann> intelikey me?
[09:36] <intelikey> elite101
[09:36] <elite101> yeah well it said on boot-up cannot acces jobcontrol
[09:36] <Schuenemann> how about me? heh
[09:36] <elite101> thanx intelikey, it worked :) wuu!!!!
[09:37] <intelikey> Schuenemann you are trying to mount the wrong device
[09:37] <Schuenemann> intelikey how can I know which is it? dmesg said sdc
[09:37] <llutz> Schuenemann: sudo fdisk -l
[09:37] <grayson> intelikey: 71 days :)
[09:37] <runlevelten> !sense
[09:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:37] <elite101> this is weird? machine: i586? is that 64-bit? i recently moved to a AMD prossecor? it was befor i386
[09:38] <intelikey> Schuenemann sudo fdisk -l     see if it's listed
[09:38] <Schuenemann> let me try, brb
[09:38] <elite101> what is the command for the PCI card attached?
[09:38] <intelikey> elite101 no 586 is 32bit
[09:39] <elite101> k
[09:39] <elite101> thought so
[09:39] <elite101> its just the number was higher :P
[09:39] <vge> lspci
[09:39] <elite101> thanx
[09:39] <intelikey> or lshw
[09:39] <elite101> yeah hw? means hardware?
[09:39] <intelikey> depends on how much "human readable" info you want
[09:40] <elite101> yeah lol just the PCI info
[09:40] <intelikey> yes hw means hardware
[09:40] <intelikey> and pci cards are hardware too
[09:40] <elite101> im getting Xlink program for windows but the only windows i had was an old 4gig HDD but it needed drivers for my PCI card so i needed to mount the HDD to put them on there
[09:41] <sammy> any idea where to start debugging kopete msn connection problems? I get no sort of troubleshooting or debugging information anywhere, connection to msn dies silently, and doesn't even ask me for my password.
[09:41] <intelikey> i hope you didn't edit fstab just for a one off mount....
[09:41] <elite101> no
[09:42] <elite101> ?
[09:42] <elite101> i need it mounted
[09:42] <elite101> allways
[09:43] <Schunemann> intelikey hey, it worked. But I can only start X with root. How to fix that?
[09:44] <intelikey> Schunemann what are you using to "start X"  ?
[09:44] <Schunemann> startx
[09:44] <intelikey> Schunemann do you have an  xorg.conf  file in your users home dir ?
[09:44] <sammy> (any ops might want to change the wiki link to kubuntu.org instead of .com to avoid certificate hostname mismatch errors)
[09:44] <intelikey> startx will read that if so
[09:44] <Schunemann> yes
[09:44] <intelikey> that's why.
[09:45] <Schunemann> it says I don't have permission to use startx
[09:45] <intelikey> mounted nosuid ?
[09:45] <Schunemann> what is nosuid?
[09:45] <elite101> intelikey, its not letting me rite files to the HDD i just mounted?
[09:46] <intelikey> Schunemann type    mount | grep nosuid
[09:46] <Schunemann> is it that stuff of creating the root user? if so, I never did it
[09:46] <intelikey> elite101 that's why i said i'd use the second line.    "alternatively"   and  "try both and see which you want"
[09:46] <elite101> k
[09:47] <BluesKaj> Schunemann, you have to login with username and pw as if you were on the login page
[09:47] <intelikey> Schunemann no.
[09:47] <Schunemann> BluesKaj how? I didn't get any login prompt
[09:47] <Schunemann> I'm using recovery mode
[09:47] <BluesKaj> oh sorry thot you were at the prompt
[09:48] <intelikey> Schunemann errr   type  init 2
[09:48] <Schunemann> intelikey maybe I should try using 'normal' mode now, as I have a nice xorg.conf now?
[09:49] <intelikey> Schunemann that's what i just said.    in the console  enter    init 2
[09:49] <Schunemann> ok, brb
[09:49] <BluesKaj> save it
[09:49] <noesis> exit quit while you can
[09:49] <Schunemann> ?
[09:49] <noesis> Schunemann: exit the term
[09:49] <noesis> alt-2 or whatever
[09:49] <noesis> and login as you
[09:49] <Schunemann> I still don't have X!
[09:49] <Schunemann> brb
[09:49] <BluesKaj> ctrl + X
[09:49] <noesis> then you can try startx
[09:50] <kyuss> Bonsoir
[09:50] <intelikey> gooday
[09:51] <sebbar_> what's the best way to automatically mount a disc read/write instead of just read?
[09:51] <kyuss> j'ai un probleme avec SU
[09:51] <intelikey> it really depends on the fs type
[09:51] <kyuss> lorsque je met mon pass il ne le prend pas...
[09:51] <intelikey> !fr
[09:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:51] <sebbar_> intelikey: ext3
[09:51] <kyuss> ok ;)
[09:52] <kyuss> thanks
[09:52] <elite101> intelikey, once i type that line in the fstab do i open up filesystems and then dis-able and enable it ?
[09:52] <intelikey> sebbar_ it defaults to rw
[09:53] <intelikey> elite101 or  sudo umount /media/hdb1 ;sudo mount /media/hdb1
[09:53] <elite101> k
[09:53] <intelikey> pick your take
[09:53] <intelikey> and take your pick,
[09:53] <elite101> lol
[09:53] <intelikey> just don't pick your nose while you do it
[09:53] <elite101> i did it worked
[09:53] <elite101> ;)
[09:54] <spaz> hello
[09:54] <intelikey> spaz
[09:54] <spaz> i keep trying to login to KDE, but for some reason it throws me straight back to the title screen
[09:54] <spaz> no errors or anything
[09:54] <spaz> hello intelikey
[09:54] <zdadrdem_> spaz maybe your disc is full
[09:54] <spaz> zdadrdem_: no
[09:55] <spaz> it's far from full
[09:55] <sebbar_> intelikey: ah I had formatted it as root, that's why I was confused. tnx
[09:55] <elite101> man i hate windoze me :(
[09:55] <intelikey> out of disk space in your home ?     mucked up permissions in your home ?    spaz
[09:55] <spaz> hmm
[09:55] <BluesKaj> spaz, try default
[09:55] <spaz> home has no quota
[09:55] <spaz> permissions, maybe
[09:55] <intelikey> sebbar_ you always format as root.    or i do...
[09:56] <intelikey> sebbar_ are you sure you are not asking about inode permissions rather than  mounted as readonly or read write  ???
[09:56] <compilerwriter> OK ladies and gents.  I would like to try out the tasty menu for kde but have no clue how to go about it.  Someone have time to hand hold for a few minutes?
[09:57] <sebbar_> intelikey: well I just formatted the disk as user and it let me do it. I was a bit surprised actually. May it's a bit strange because it's a sata disc connected via a usb adapter. Well hey it seems to work fine now :)
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: the suse kickoff menu?
[09:57] <spaz> aha
[09:57] <spaz> the permissions indeed
[09:57] <spaz> thanks ^_^
[09:57] <elite101> intelikey, it stilll says i dont hav write permissions?
[09:57] <spaz> *intellikey
[09:57] <anu> !adeptfix
[09:57] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:58] <compilerwriter> noserednaekim I am not sure I read about it in akgregator.
[09:58] <intelikey> sebbar_ k.
[09:58] <compilerwriter> It is supposed to be a replacement to kmenu nosrednaekim
[09:58] <intelikey> elite101 which fstab line right now ?
[09:58] <elite101> #2
[09:58] <spaz> i must have hosed them when i transferred my entire kubuntu install to a new, larger HD
[09:58] <elite101> i tried both
[09:58] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: what is it called?
[09:58] <spaz> :-s
[09:58] <elite101> they still wont let me write?
[09:58] <compilerwriter> I would just like to try it out instead of kmenu for a while nosrednaekim
[09:59] <intelikey> elite101 ok and  what does konsole command      echo $UID       tell us ?
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: alrighy :) do you have it installed?
[09:59] <elite101> 1sec
[09:59] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Tasty+Menu?content=41866
[09:59] <elite101> omg
[09:59] <elite101> im dumbbbb
[09:59] <elite101> :)
[09:59] <elite101> 1000
[09:59] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim I want to make sure I get my kmenu stuff backed up properly so I can switch back if I want.  I have yet to install though.
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: it shouldn't affect the current Kmenu
[10:00] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim I just want to do this properly.
[10:00] <intelikey> elite101 in the string "user,users,dmask=022,fmask=133"    add the word ,uid=1000     or is it uuid=1000      ????
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: but if you want.. save your ".kde" folder from your /home partition
[10:00] <elite101> one thousand
[10:00] <elite101> uuid
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> copy it to "kde-backup" or something
[10:01] <anu> grr, has someone got the flashplugin nonfree package without having to download the crap from adobe? its going at 200 bytes per second
[10:01] <intelikey> yeah uuid
[10:01] <elite101> but the line u gave me was this?
[10:01] <elite101> :
[10:01] <elite101> */dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0
[10:01] <elite101> take out the *
[10:01] <elite101> there is no UUID?
[10:02] <jussio1> no one?
[10:02] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: ok.i'm looking into it.
[10:03] <elite101>  /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0  <--- That is all i need to put? or do i add the UUID=1000?
[10:04] <tuke81> dxr3 anyone
 elite101 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0   <<< that's what i first said.    >>> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,uuid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0   <<<< that's what i'm saying you need to add in.   there is differance in  uuid and UUID
[10:04] <sehe> jussio1: anything you'd like to ask?
[10:04] <voidmage> "grub-install (hd0) failed. this is a fatal error."
[10:05] <voidmage> I got that error when installing kubuntu
[10:05] <compilerwriter> I believe I have my .kde folder backed up now nosrednaekim
[10:05] <elite101> ahh k
[10:05] <jussio1> sehe: sorry, see the post by anu
[10:05] <intelikey> elite101 in linux everything is case sensitive   and   UUID != uuid   in mount.
[10:05] <elite101> yeah i know
[10:05] <sehe> jussi01:  i'm just on - don't have the earlier msgs
[10:05] <elite101> but where do i add it in?
[10:05] <elite101> anywhere
[10:05] <intelikey> sorry if i have confused you.
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: ok, then go ahead and install that deb.
[10:05] <intelikey> see    ^^^
[10:06] <elite101> yeah nvm
[10:06] <martinjh99> how come - when I do a netstat then installing from gb mirror it's connecting to auckland.ubuntu.com?  Is that an Oz server or what?
[10:06] <elite101> its already there
[10:06] <jussio1> sehe: has someone got the flashplugin nonfree package without having to download the crap from adobe? its going at 200 bytes per second
[10:06] <elite101> sorry
[10:06] <voidmage> How can I get around "grub-install (hd0) failed. this is a fatal error." in the installer?
[10:06] <sehe> jussio1: sry dunno bout that :D
[10:06] <elite101> jussio1, if u need to install flashaplayer? i usually get firefox and go to a site that needs it and it will download th plugin for u fast
[10:06] <jussio1> its always really slow - very annoying
[10:06] <elite101> ^^^
[10:07] <intelikey> !grub | voidmage
[10:07] <ubotu> voidmage: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:07] <elite101> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:07] <jussio1> elite101: never works for me, and im using konq
[10:07] <elite101> well if u try firefox and go to www.joecartoon.com it should work
[10:07] <Schuenemann> intelikey, hey, I finally got it working
[10:07] <elite101> just select a video a small pop-up will apera for plugin
[10:08] <Schuenemann> or at least I think so, haven't booted yet
[10:08] <intelikey> Schuenemann :)
[10:08] <Schuenemann> thanks :-)
[10:08] <jussio1> elite101: I dont want to use firefox
[10:08] <Schuenemann> what do you have against firefox?
[10:08] <BluesKaj> jussio1, use konq but try to DL flash with it
[10:09] <jussio1> Schuenemann: its gtk
[10:09] <jussio1> iirc
[10:09] <Schuenemann> intelikey, is it possible to use glx with this card?
[10:09] <Schuenemann> jussio1, yeah, it is
[10:09] <intelikey> jussio1 put the flashplayer plugin in your .kde/share/apps/konqueror/plugins/  dir    may not be the exact address but that's the concept
[10:09] <elite101> lol dont wanna use firfox :s
[10:10] <voidmage> what am I looking for in there?
[10:10] <jussio1> elite101: are you lol'ing at me?
[10:10] <intelikey> elite101 i refuse to use ff too
[10:10] <elite101> yeah
[10:10] <elite101> why?
[10:10] <jhutchins> voidmage: Manual install of grub outside the installer.
[10:10] <intelikey> don't like it
[10:10] <elite101> meh
[10:10] <elite101> :P
[10:10] <jussio1> elite101: why would I put extra libs I dont need on my pc
[10:10] <Schuenemann> I love the extensions
[10:11] <tuke81> jussio1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[10:11] <jhutchins> Some javascript works better with FF, otherwise i avoid it.
[10:11] <elite101> well install ff, and the flash plugin will work with konqueror
[10:11] <Schuenemann> !glx
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <Schuenemann> how come the bot doesn't know anything about glx? Even I do!
[10:11] <elite101> !flashplayer
[10:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:11] <sehe> opera is my favourite. firefox for certain websites and teh extensions (FireBug, Selenium IDE)
[10:11] <voidmage> jhutchins: how do I do that on a livecd though?
[10:11] <voidmage> because i tried what it said and it didn't wor'
[10:11] <voidmage> k
[10:12] <elite101> yeah firebug isgood
[10:12] <intelikey> Schuenemann idk...
[10:12] <intelikey> !info glx
[10:12] <ubotu> Package glx does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:12] <Artimus> I'm having a strange issue with KNetworkManager on Feisty (AMD64).  I'm on the internet, but the manager says "No Network Device Found".  Under manual configuration, my ethernet card is listed O_o
[10:12] <jhutchins> voidmage: Since you're making me guess, I'd say that it was trying to install to the wrong drive/partition.
[10:12] <voidmage> I mounted the root partition
[10:12] <sehe> which means: there is no room in my day to get used to Konq. I only use Konq for ioslaves (man:/ info:/ ftp:/ svn+ssh:/ and the like)
[10:12] <jhutchins> voidmage: It goes on the bootsector of the first drive.
[10:12] <voidmage> and looked in /boot
[10:12] <voidmage> and there wasn't any grub folder in there
[10:13] <jussio1> Artimus: try switching to offline mode then back to online mode
[10:13] <mariooliveira> hello kunbuntu world  :)
[10:13] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim I managed to create a directory .kde_backup but when I use the cp command to copy the files I am told it is not a directory.
[10:13] <sehe> mariooliveira: hello back!
[10:13] <elite101> lol
[10:14] <mariooliveira> sehe,  hello sorry i dont remember u  maybe a few days ago?
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: how did you create that directory? "mkdir .kde_backup"?
[10:14] <Artimus> jussio1: No good, but thanks.  Running through sudo does not help either.
[10:14] <sehe> mariooliveira: i meant, in return :)
[10:14] <jussio1> Artimus: weird
[10:14] <voidmage> hmm.
[10:14] <mariooliveira> ohh lol
[10:14] <compilerwriter> yes nosrednaekim that is how I created it.
[10:14] <voidmage> /boot/grub/stage1 doesn't exist
[10:14] <elite101> Artimus, now why does that name sound fimilar?
[10:14] <jhutchins> !kdesu | Artimus
[10:14] <ubotu> Artimus: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:15] <sehe> voidmage: is the boot partition *mounted* ????
[10:15] <voidmage> yeah
[10:15] <voidmage> should it be?
[10:15] <sehe> voidmage: possibly. in default install there is no separate boot part, so you needn't worry
[10:15] <voidmage> i'm not in my system
[10:15] <voidmage> i'm on a livecd
[10:15] <sehe> voidmage: rule is: if you don't know about it, you don't have to mount it
[10:16] <voidmage> and grub won't install because /boot/grub doesn't exist on my root partition
[10:16] <Artimus> elite101: I saw a few bugs reported about wireless not detecting.  However, this is a bit different...
[10:16] <sehe> voidmage: then forget my remark :D
[10:16] <elite101> Atrimus, ur nickname is that froma  movie?
[10:16] <elite101> artimus*
[10:16] <voidmage> any way I can get grub to actually install?
[10:17] <mariooliveira> i started kunbuntu install dhcpd and config it now  my laptop( booting from lan says  no boot filename received
[10:17] <elite101> Artimus, ur nickname is that froma  movie?
[10:17] <sehe> elite101:  Arthemis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis
[10:17] <Artimus> elite101: No, but it was also used in a movie
[10:17] <elite101> there now i spelt it rite
[10:17] <elite101> yeah
[10:17] <elite101> mhm what one?
[10:17] <elite101> its so fimilar
[10:17] <Artimus> Wild West or some such thing with Will Smith?
[10:17] <Artimus> Wild Wild West maybe?
[10:17] <elite101> maybe
[10:17] <elite101> or
[10:17] <Artimus> ...  I think I found an answer to the Knetworkmanager thing.
[10:17] <mariooliveira> do i have to add a line at dhcpd config fileor  to thtp witch is not running yet
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: thats very odd.
[10:17] <elite101> Optimes prime ring a bell?
[10:18] <elite101> optimus*
[10:18] <sehe> elite101: matrix?
[10:18] <mariooliveira> and where do i get  the file?
[10:18] <elite101> Transformers?
[10:18] <elite101> yeah
[10:18] <elite101> matrix
[10:18] <elite101> thats it
[10:18] <compilerwriter> nosredmaekim I think I have got it now.
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: curious.. is there a "lilo" directory in /boot?
[10:19] <sehe> voidmage: could it be you are confusing /boot and /media/hddmountpoint/boot ?
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: ok, got it all backed up and that file DLed?
[10:19] <sehe> nosrednaekim: voidmage: i always use !chroot to make stuff like that easy on my PC's
[10:19] <voidmage> $ sudo grub-install \(hd0\)
[10:20] <voidmage> Could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device
[10:20] <compilerwriter> I am downloading the deb now.
[10:20] <sehe> voidmage: i'm pretty positive you need to be chrooted for grub-install to work from teh livecd *against the harddrive*
[10:20] <compilerwriter> Deb downloaded.
[10:20] <sehe> !chroot | voidmage
[10:20] <ubotu> voidmage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: ah.... you have to do a --root-directory=/media/hddmountpoint
[10:21] <compilerwriter> deb downloaded noserednaekim
[10:21] <sehe> voidmage: nosrednaekim has a simpler approach!!!! cheers
[10:21] <voidmage> hmm.
[10:21] <voidmage> nope.
[10:21] <jussio1> grrr, does anyone know a european mirror to get flash from?
[10:21] <sehe> nosrednaekim: my chrooting habit is a gentoo-ism i suspect :D lol
[10:21] <voidmage> it thinks it's xfs
[10:22] <nosrednaekim> sehe: thats what I always did till someone shoed me --root-directory
[10:22] <sehe> nosrednaekim: hehe learning everyday
[10:22] <zblach_> nosrednaekim: can you have my ghost killed?
[10:22] <sehe> zblach_: excuse me
[10:22] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim I have now installed the package
[10:22] <nosrednaekim> zblach_: sorry not an admin. try #ubuntu-ops
[10:22] <voidmage> yeah.
[10:22] <zblach_> i'm in #python too
[10:23] <sehe> zblach_: ic
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: I think you ahve to right click on the panel, add applet, the app's name
[10:23] <zblach_> sehe, take no offense. sorry
[10:23] <voidmage> I have the same error as http://www.nabble.com/Report-bugs-to-<bug-grub%40gnu.org>-t4161638.html
[10:23] <sehe> zblach_: hehe was just curious :D
[10:24] <jussio1> sehe: i cant pm right now
[10:24] <bdexterholland> what's the name of brazilian channel?
[10:24] <Schuenemann> !br
[10:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:24] <sehe> jussio1: np i closed the tab already :D
[10:24] <compilerwriter> Got it there nosrednaekim
[10:24] <combo> - is this possible to install AIGLX (ati radeon 9600) on Feisty ?
[10:24] <compilerwriter> Thanks
[10:24] <bdexterholland> \help
[10:25] <sehe> '/help' ?
[10:25] <sehe> uhoh i hope i didn put him off
[10:25] <jhutchins> voidmage: That's an error message telling you it's safe to ignore the error message.
[10:26] <voidmage> oh
[10:26] <voidmage> heh
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: ok run this command " sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/<mountpoint> /dev/<HD code name>"
[10:26] <voidmage> I got it now.
[10:26] <sehe> voidmage: good!
[10:26] <voidmage> is that the last thing ubiquity does?
[10:27] <voidmage> as in I can reboot safely now?
[10:27] <compilerwriter> Now how do I make it work so that the tasy menu pops up when I left click on the desktop? nosrednaekim
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: yeah... did that work?
[10:28] <voidmage> i'm rebooting now.
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: I don't know if you can
[10:28] <voidmage> nope, I got a grub prompt
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: what?
[10:29] <voidmage> it threw me to a grub prompt
[10:29] <voidmage> maybe it didn't setup a menu.lst
[10:30] <jussio1> voidmage: sounds like you just need to specify root etc
[10:30] <jussio1> !grub
[10:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:30] <compilerwriter> Thanks nosrednaekim
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: did you get the grub prompt b4?
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: NP
[10:30] <voidmage> no, that was my first boot
[10:31] <voidmage> all I got was a grub prompt
[10:32] <voidmage> zomg, nvidia-glx-new finally hit the repos with 100 series drivers
[10:32] <mariooliveira> where is  pxelinux.0 in  kubunt cd?
[10:32] <jussio1> voidmage: try folling the first link instructions after the sudo grub bit - ie. root (hd0,1) etc
[10:32] <hayami> hi i have a problem with videos
[10:32] <nosrednaekim> voidmage:  oh... this is a fresh install?
[10:32] <voidmage> yeah
[10:32] <hayami> i see little blue squares what should i do xD?
[10:33] <voidmage> oh
[10:33] <voidmage> i have no menu.lst
[10:34] <hayami> help please xD
[10:34] <sehe> hayami: ermmm... a question please
[10:35] <hayami> well, when i play a video or movie, all ok, but little squares are in the display why man?
[10:35] <hayami>  blue little squares friend
[10:35] <vge> video type?
[10:35] <hayami> =o?
[10:35] <sehe> hayami: sry I missed that line :)
[10:36] <voidmage> okay, that should have worked
[10:36] <sehe> hayami: like in nvida/ait or GL or non-GL
[10:36] <hayami> =o
[10:36] <hayami> i have an intel
[10:36] <sehe> atu* ^^
[10:36] <sehe> ati* hahah
[10:36] <sehe> intel graphics?
[10:36] <hayami> i810 it's the driver
[10:36] <hayami> or something like that
[10:36] <sehe> laptop?
[10:36] <hayami> yes friend
[10:37] <sehe> k
[10:37] <hayami> 935ABG or something like that
[10:37] <vge> well, i think i have the same, but if he dont see squares in normal display it's not a gpu problem imho
[10:37] <hayami> let me send you a picture of the problem
[10:37] <sehe> i don't have experience with them but afaik most laptop gracards are pretty uncomplicated and shouldn be the cause of problems.
[10:37] <vge> u have the correct video codecs?
[10:37] <voidmage> okay
[10:37] <voidmage> this time it should work
[10:38] <araizen> what command do i run to install a .deb i just downloaded?
[10:38] <voidmage> error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios
[10:39] <Schuenemann> !intel
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <sehe> dpkg -i
[10:39] <sehe> araizen: ^^
[10:39] <araizen> sehe: thanks
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> voidmage: sotry, I have to go
[10:39] <araizen> sehe: i assume sudo dpkg -i?
[10:39] <sehe> araizen: or in Konqueror, right click, package actions, install :)
[10:39] <Schuenemann> !nvidia
[10:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <sehe> araizen: sudo of course. konqueror will ask the pass
[10:40] <araizen> oh, if i already had an older version of the software installed, will that hurt?
[10:40] <sehe> araizen: almost like being on windows, innit? just rightclick
[10:40] <hayami> xD
[10:40] <hayami> i take the pictures
[10:40] <hayami> but
[10:40] <sehe> araizen: normally, no: deb files contain their dependencies (references) and i think the upgrade is based on the package names
[10:41] <hayami> in the picture all it's blue
[10:41] <araizen> sehe, thanks
[10:41] <sehe> araizen: unless you are packages maintained by various authors, you should be fine
[10:41] <hayami> so that means i can't take pictures from a video? or what xD
[10:41] <araizen> except now it gets me dependency problems, so i probably have to go and download those
[10:41] <araizen> so no, it's not exactly like windows
[10:41] <sehe> araizen: ok, good point
[10:42] <hayami> xD well the problem is that the video is runing i can see it but with a lot of little blue squares
[10:42] <sehe> araizen: i'm sure you can get around that by somehow adding the local package to synaptics, and let synaptics work out the des - however I never tried that
[10:42] <Schuenemann> !pastebin
[10:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:42] <sehe> deps^^
[10:43] <sehe> Schuenemann: whom are you !-ing to?
[10:43] <voidmage> hmm.
[10:43] <voidmage> what if I install a separate boot partition?
[10:43] <Schuenemann> sehe, whay?
[10:43] <Schuenemann> what?
[10:44] <sehe> Schuenemann: you tell ! pastebin but no ones apparently going to post something?
[10:44] <Schuenemann> I need the page
[10:44] <Schuenemann> needed
[10:44] <sehe> Schuenemann: kkkkk sry :D
[10:44] <hayami> is it a problem with my driver?
[10:44] <sehe> Schuenemann: earlier you said '! intel' (also for own use?)
[10:45] <Schuenemann> yeah... and the bot doesn't know what intel is
[10:45] <sehe> Schuenemann: just your luck
[10:45] <sehe> Schuenemann: I'd like to find a page with bot factoids
[10:45] <sehe> Schuenemann:  that link is broken :D
[10:45] <voidmage> hmm.
[10:46] <bryce_> Hello folks!
[10:46] <voidmage> that would explain why the /boot partition then.
[10:46] <Schuenemann> I'd like to use GLX with my intel card
[10:46] <hayami> so then
[10:46] <hayami> i'm lost? xD
[10:46] <sehe> Schuenemann: i'd say --> forums but maybe you tried
[10:46] <Schuenemann> I didn't, but I have bad luck there
[10:47] <hayami> and the weird thing is that my resolution can go to 1990 x 1440 and here i just have 1024x 768
[10:47] <sehe> Schuenemann: things like this normally involve (1) a hardware list (2) a steps-to-install list... Typically something I find on forums. I'd have a try
[10:47] <hayami> why is that?
[10:48] <sehe> hayami: because the monitor is not correctly detected. The 'modelines' (or their modern equivs?) are not present for the high res modes
[10:48] <sehe> !resolution | hayami
[10:48] <ubotu> hayami: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:49] <combo> can some1 help in question: beryl or compiz? (AIGLX, ATI Radeon 9600 - my computer is average - little old stuff :) )
[10:49] <hayami> o i see
[10:49] <sehe> combo: depends a bit, try?
[10:50] <hayami> well i hope i don't destroy my lap, i'm a beginner here, i have two days with kubuntu :P
[10:50] <sayers> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:50] <combo> sehe: eee... what? :)
[10:50] <sehe> combo: you mean as in which wm to choose.
[10:50] <sehe> hayami: you can always backup /etc/Xorg before any changes
[10:50] <combo> sehe: i just want someone to help me what choose - beryl or compiz. i guess it's not the same
[10:51] <sehe> hayami: I actually once saved my ass by restoring xorg.conf from the livecd :D
[10:51] <combo> i'm just little bored with all those beryl effects (fire effect, cube, etc.) so i thinking about compiz
[10:51] <sehe> combo: no it isn't. the projects have been branched, but I think they merged again into the current beryl
[10:51] <combo> i heard it's more stable than beryl
[10:51] <sehe> combo: could be. in fact it is probably a small subset :D
[10:52] <combo> sehe: ok then, i'll try compiz (before used only beryl)
[10:52] <combo> sehe: thx :]
[10:52] <sehe> combo: I use beryl however so I don't know which features are in compiz. I do know that it is easy to switch if you have them both installed (beryl-manager, slect wm, beryl/compiz):D
[10:53] <combo> sehe: actually i just need windows decaration (in beryl called EMERALD THEME) - in compiz is something similar?
[10:53] <combo> sehe: oh i see... u don;t know
[10:53] <combo> sehe: ok:)
[10:53] <combo> sehe: and what is 'wm' ??
[10:53] <sehe> combo: i think i have heard that compiz uses emerald as well (might be the thing that came from compiz all the way)
[10:53] <sehe> !wm | combo
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <sehe> window-manager
[10:54] <combo> sehe: ok then, so trying COMPIZ
[10:54] <combo> sehe: thx for help me choose :d
[10:54] <sehe> combo: so wm ==> kwin, twm, fwce, enlightenment, compiz, beryl
[10:54] <combo> sehe: yeap, know already :)
[10:54] <sehe> combo soz good luck
[10:55] <combo> sehe: hehe, thx... cuz luck is strongly recomended, especial with new stuff :D
[10:55] <hayami> thanks
[10:55] <sehe> combo: yup
[10:55] <hayami> i will
[10:55] <sehe> hayami: good luck as well
[10:55] <hayami> reboot the xserver
[10:56] <hayami> thanks sehe be back if i can :p
[10:56] <sehe> hayami: i'll see you later then
[10:57] <sehe> k loox like as good a time as any to go to bed
[10:57] <sehe> nn
[10:58] <wwcross> nn
[10:58] <BluesKaj> which flash plugin works on the web in Konqueror ?
[10:58] <wwcross> i use firefox
[10:59] <BluesKaj> so do I but i like konqueror for some sites
[11:00] <BluesKaj> wwcross, telling others what you use doesn't answer the question , does it ?
[11:01] <wwcross> sorry i was making the point that i dont know, sorry to make idiotic staitment
[11:04] <hayami> hi
[11:04] <hayami> friends problem fixed!!! thanks sehe
[11:04] <magicalmoose> hurrah
[11:05] <hayami> and now i can see the videos without little blue squares, but the problem now is that the image is not constant, it shakes a little
[11:05] <a589thRuin> lskdjfaf
[11:05] <hayami> can i fix that problem?
[11:05] <a589thRuin> whore
[11:15] <voidmage> ugh.
[11:15] <voidmage> i can't seem to get the installer to work
[11:16] <voidmage> i'll try alternate cd
[11:18] <worms> Hello
[11:18] <worms> Somebody speak frech ???
[11:19] <worms> quelqu'un parle franais
[11:19] <sammy> hrm. msn works fine from this machine, in the same network location, with other clients, with no setup. it just dies silently with kopete. i guess I'll head to the kde or kopete channel.
[11:19] <dori> un petit peu
[11:19] <worms> dori j'ai un probleme de son
[11:19] <sammy> worms: translate.google.com !
[11:19] <worms> je suis sur ubuntu et je n'ai pas de son
[11:20] <worms> sammy: i've no sound on my computer
[11:21] <stdin> !fr
[11:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:21] <worms> stdin: i'v found nothing on ubuntu.fr
[11:21] <DRK-AAM> Hola, anybody who's ever had to rescue a system here?
[11:22] <stdin> worms: there's #ubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-fr  have you tried both?
[11:22] <sammy> stdin: haha wonderful, thank you, I was busy trying to translate responses that made sense :P
[11:22] <wwcross> i once had to rescue my X-Server after a rather dodgy attempt at a self Beryl install
[11:22] <worms> i going to tray kubuntu.fr
[11:23] <dori> worms: kinfocenter est qu'il ya quelque chose li?
[11:23] <stdin> dori: if you want to talk french, do it in the french channel
[11:23] <DRK-AAM> worms, vas-y, c un channel completement francophone
[11:24] <stdin> !en
[11:24] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:24] <dori> stdin: I don't, I can barely make myself understood
[11:25] <DRK-AAM> wwcross: Cause I don't know what I did, but I had the good idea to migrate from gnome to kde...
[11:25] <DRK-AAM> wwcross: but beryl never gave me any trouble... :P
[11:26] <DRK-AAM> Just to let you guys know, worms has finally understood, he's in ubuntu-fr... lol
[11:27] <sammy> OH I know what I was going to ask in here. is there a way for me to enable debugging in a package? I might want to go digging through apt-get documentation...
[11:27] <wwcross> DRK-AAM i messed up the .conf file
[11:27] <sammy> since I can't get any sort of error message AT ALL out of kopete's msn plugin, but I don't want to just go compiling from source with debugging symbols, since I can connect to msn from other clients in kubuntu
[11:28] <sammy> so I have no idea where to start with trying to figure out why it dies silently.
[11:28] <DRK-AAM> wwcross: would you know how I could go about just reinstalling kubuntu but keeping my files, the progs, I don't mind losing them
[11:29] <wwcross> DRK-AAM: sorry i have no idea m8
[11:30] <DRK-AAM> It's ok, I guess someone will see this, so, I just need patience... were you able to repair beryl in the end^
[11:31] <wwcross> i got it working, but i went back to the normal KDE
[11:32] <DRK-AAM> wwcross: Anyways, in a couple months, gutsy'll be out w/ compiz fusion as the default desktop manager... Oh yeah
[11:32] <wwcross> very cool lookin,
[11:33] <wwcross> Gnome is 10 today
[11:33] <DRK-AAM> today??