[07:42] <knightwise> morning
[08:34] <diplo> Morning
[08:36] <knightwise> hey diplo  !
[08:36] <knightwise> how are you :)
[08:43] <popey> morning
[08:45] <diplo> Morning knightwise, sorry work call :)
[08:45] <diplo> Good thanks, albeit a tad cold this morning!  I'm in London!
[09:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> Cool.
[09:00] <popey> yo yo yo
[09:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> For good, or just visiting?
[09:00] <nigelb> just visiting.
[09:00] <nigelb> I'll be here for 3 weeks, I hope to meet as many of you guys as I can manage ;)
[09:01] <popey> London all of that time or moving about?
[09:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> That sounds like a plan.
[09:01] <nigelb> Cambridge for a week.
[09:01] <nigelb> Otherwise, I'll be in London most days I think.
[09:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: Ever written any tips on screencasting?
[09:08] <popey> nah, they're mostly in my head
[09:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> OK - ta.
[09:09] <popey> anything specific you were after?
[09:09] <aptanet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[09:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not really. I have a new module for vtiger  I want to screencast.
[09:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> Thanks aptanet
[09:10] <popey> that page is old and outdated
[09:10] <aptanet> by popey ;)
[09:10] <aptanet> yes, the three on your blog are a bit old too
[09:10]  * popey brainstorms
[09:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> I was just going to write some script notes first then do it.
[09:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> On a clean desktop
[09:10] <aptanet> I've found Kazam better than record my desktop
[09:11] <aptanet> although it is prone to stopping responding I find
[09:12] <popey> http://beta.etherpad.org/p/screencasting
[09:12] <popey> lets go!
[09:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> :-)
[09:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> That etherpad keeps dropping out.
[09:17] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:18] <popey> strange, fine here
[09:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's OK now seemingly.
[09:19] <awilkins> Not having problems
[09:26] <diplo> I still love watching multiple edits on documents, its the future :)
[09:27] <aptanet> when you're thinking about typing something and it appears from somewhere else if fun!
[09:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nice, one of our VMs has a Load Avg of 68 :-)
[09:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> bloody apache and WP again.
[09:27] <popey> hah
[09:27]  * popey hugs lighttpd
[09:32]  * Laney looks down and sees that his top is on inside out and backwards
[09:32] <popey> bug 1103638
[09:32] <diplo> lol one is bad, 2 is well...
[09:32] <diplo> :P
[09:32] <popey> anyone else notice that?
[09:32] <popey> after you update on raring
[09:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[09:33] <diplo> OCD kicking in again popey :)
[09:33]  * diplo is debating writing a phone app..
[09:33]  * JamesTait really should update to Raring. Maybe over the weekend.
[09:33] <diplo> Any one here tried writing one yet apart from sil ?
[09:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: morning dude
[09:34] <JamesTait> Howzit davmor2! :)
[09:37] <hoover> hi folks
[09:38] <knightwise> hey hoover
[09:39] <timp> Hi, I tried to install 10.04 from dvd on external optical drive on a MacBook Pro, last years (non-retina) model. It nearly worked: i even heard the little drum role, but the screen remained completely blank.
[09:39] <timp> Any suggestions?
[09:39] <knightwise> 10.04 ?
[09:39] <timp> yes
[09:39] <knightwise> 12.04 works out of the box.
[09:40] <timp> Doh, sorry, 12.04
[09:40] <timp> Nope#
[09:40] <knightwise> http://maketecheasier.com/install-ubuntu-12-10-in-macbook-air/2012/11/08
[09:40] <knightwise> thats odd.
[09:40] <knightwise> are you using the amd/mac iso ?
[09:41] <timp> The standard amd iso
[09:41] <timp> thanks for the link, I will try again tonight.
[09:43] <knightwise> could be a no-acpi settins in grub
[09:43] <knightwise> i had that problem too
[09:43] <knightwise> if you hit me up on facebook or google+ i"ll get you in touch with one of my listeners who had the same problem.
[09:45] <einonm> timp: If the drumroll sounds, it may well just be the display settings - CTRL-ALT-F1 may get you a prompt to login
[09:46] <timp> einonm: thanks
[10:28] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:33] <popey> yo
[10:34] <brobostigon> morning popey
[10:35] <bigcalm_laptop> Good morning peeps :)
[10:35] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm_laptop
[10:36] <bigcalm_laptop> Hi brobostigon
[10:43] <brobostigon> ok, lets say. i used get-iplayer, to download something to my rpi, how would you stream that from there to another machine on the same network, whith the rpi being headless ?
[10:44] <gord> smbfs? ssh+ftp?
[10:45] <diplo> I have a similar setup, albeit a microserver and yeah as gord says I stick it in a samba share
[10:45] <diplo> and point xbmc in my case to said samba share
[10:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> brobostigon: dlna, rygel?
[10:46] <gord> is what i do, i've also used a upnp setup in the past too, which worked well and something i want to explore in the future but xbmc was a bit buggy with it at the time
[10:46] <brobostigon> two questions, will it download the whole file before playback? and how can i get it to do that without having to download said file wholly or partially first ?
[10:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> dlna/upnp I think is a proper streaming service.
[10:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> It works on my TV from my home server.
[10:47] <brobostigon> ok, let me make notes, and research those possibilities.
[10:47] <gord> it won't download the whole file before playback, unless your video player is beyond terrible
[10:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> If you are using a Pi though you probably don't want to do real-time encoding ;-)
[10:48]  * bigcalm_laptop pokes gord
[10:48] <brobostigon> gord: ok, i just remeber some attempts at this before. doing that,
[10:48]  * bigcalm_laptop pokes mrevell
[10:48] <gord> only thing i have seen download the whole file before playback is a sftp filesystem extension for windows that would download the files to a temporary directory before letting the thing open it
[10:48]  * gord is poked
[10:48] <mrevell> AH, hey bigcalm_laptop. I got back late from a meet-up in Manchester last night so I'm still at home. Are you all there?
[10:49] <brobostigon> gord: ah,
[10:50] <bigcalm_laptop> mrevell: davmor2 and myself are here
[10:50] <bigcalm_laptop> mrevell: you're welcome to join us
[10:51] <brobostigon> TheOpenSourcerer: good point, yes.
[10:51] <davmor2> mrevell: yeah come you can tell us all about your new job and the globe trotting that you are doing :)
[10:52] <mrevell> heh :)
[11:18] <brobostigon> minidlna seems a good candidate, for what i am looking for.
[11:19] <bigcalm_laptop> Is that the mysql drop in replacement?
[11:19] <bigcalm_laptop> Oh, maybe not. I think I'm still a little tired today
[11:20] <SuperMatt> no, you're thinking of maria
[11:21] <SuperMatt> the only thing that's stopping me from dropping postgres on unsuspecting asses over here is bloody wordpress
[11:24] <SuperMatt> though I guess if I can prove that wordpress works fine with maria, then I might be able to convince the devs to make the switch
[11:33] <bigcalm_laptop> SuperMatt: drizzle is another drop in replacement for mysql
[11:34] <SuperMatt> considering that fedora 19 may go maria (if it ever gets out of the door), and it's being developed by formers mysql devs, maria might be the better option
[11:45] <SuperMatt> hah, silly me
[11:45] <SuperMatt> the maria db wikipedia page says wordpress is "officially supported"
[11:45] <SuperMatt> I'm just going to have a look around to see where I can find that "official" confirmation
[11:47] <SuperMatt> brilliant, zend support it too, so I could move everything across the maria 10
[11:47] <SuperMatt> or just keep maria for wordpress and use postgres for everything else
[11:56] <hoover> Should be ok to use maria as it's a drop-in binary replacement for mysql
[12:13] <SuperMatt> well, currently it is ;)
[12:13] <SuperMatt> I don't imagine that if maria and mysql were no longer compatible that wordpress would stop working
[12:13] <SuperMatt> it's not like wordpress sites need to worry about transactions, etc
[12:34] <brobostigon> what the best format for videos to be in, so that dlna can playback and stream them properly ?
[12:35] <brobostigon> btw, i got minidlna up and running properly, :)
[12:35] <popey> i dont think dnla cares
[12:35] <popey> the client might
[12:35] <brobostigon> hmm, get-iplayer and minidlna end, it is a .flv
[12:35] <popey> h264 seems to be the codec of choice which plays on most things
[12:36] <popey> flv is the container
[12:36] <brobostigon> ok.
[12:36] <popey> what's inside it?
[12:36] <popey> get_iplayer usually converts .flv to .mp4 when it finishes iirc
[12:36] <brobostigon> how do i find out from cli ?
[12:36] <popey> mplayer will tell you
[12:37] <Azelphur> doesn't iplayer serve mp4 as it's high quality option?
[12:37] <brobostigon> it didnt convert it to mp4 for some reason.
[12:37] <popey> do you have libav/ffmpeg installed?
[12:37] <popey> if not it wont
[12:37] <gord> most things that can play h264 can also play flv though
[12:37] <brobostigon> popey: ah, ok. let me try again then.
[12:38] <popey> Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
[12:38] <popey> Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3)
[12:38] <popey> for example is what you might get from mplayer
[12:39] <brobostigon> i have installed ffmpeg now, so will try and pull a different video off iplayer, and see whats happens.
[12:40] <popey> or just manually convert one you already have
[12:41] <popey> i think get_iplayer just changes the container, not the internal codecs
[12:41] <brobostigon> i will have to do that yes.
[12:41] <brobostigon> ah.
[12:41] <popey> what are you playing them with?
[12:41] <popey> i.e. what frontend?
[12:41] <brobostigon> mediahouse on my nexus7. is the first client i tried.
[12:42] <einonm> gord: watch out though, flv is a container, whereas h.264 is a video codec, so there is quite a difference
[12:44] <popey> https://www.theyetee.com/
[12:44] <popey> oops
[12:45] <brobostigon> spoton popey , ffmpeg was the problem.
[12:45] <popey> cool
[12:48] <brobostigon> WOOP
[13:06] <brobostigon> it is working really quite well. i am impressed.
[13:18] <knightwise> hey popey brobostigon
[13:19] <brobostigon> hey knightwise
[13:27] <knightwise> hmm.. i'm using the nxfree nomachine client / server
[13:27] <knightwise> but it doesnt seem to like unity very much :(
[13:28] <brobostigon> i wonder, if there is an risk of the rpi overheating and burning,? hmmm,
[13:34] <knightwise> is there still an lts supported version without unity (with standard gnome ?)
[13:34] <knightwise> or has that also gone the way of the dodo ?
[13:35] <brobostigon> standard gnome is there is the repos, and i beleieve there is a gnome-ubuntu remix.
[13:36] <knightwise> standard gnome  ? but thats gnome 3 ..right ?
[13:37] <brobostigon> yes.
[13:41] <knightwise> hmm.. dunno if the Nomachine client likes that any better
[13:42] <diplo> knightwise: xfce ?
[13:46] <knightwise> sure ,b ut then you need to hack some preferences into the nxclient and i've tried several things.
[13:49] <BigRedS> I'm after an XMPP client that supports a few different accounts being configured, but lets me treat them separately, anyone know of any?
[13:49] <BigRedS> so (easy) different statuses/messages for each, ideally separate contact lists. I'm thinking basically Pidgin's interface but tabbed...
[13:54] <knightwise> BigRedS: Centerim ?
[13:55] <BigRedS> knightwise: oooh, perhaps. Hadn't considered text-mode.
[13:55] <BigRedS> thansk!
[13:56] <BigRedS> haha, you can judge software's maintenance activity by which woman is in the photo in the background of the screenshot...
[14:00] <knightwise> ah , i got it
[14:00] <awilkins> BigRedS, Are we saying the maintenance is inversely proportional to how attractive the screenshot people are?
[14:00] <knightwise> need to specify what desktop the nomachine client should launch
[14:00] <knightwise> works nog
[14:00] <knightwise> now
[14:00] <awilkins> BigRedS, ie ; super hot - obv. rubbish software being covered up by glitz?
[14:07] <knightwise> whow
[14:07] <knightwise> remote desktop with NXclient (running XFCE on the far end) is FAST !
[14:08] <BigRedS> awilkins: haha, nah just which woman is in the background. Though I'm not sure who it would be now...
[14:09] <knightwise> what screenshot are you referring to ?
[14:10] <BigRedS> http://www.centerim.org/index.php/File:Centerim-screenshot.png
[14:10] <awilkins> An old shot of Alysson Hannigan
[14:11] <awilkins> From this we can infer the software is maintained by people who liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer
[14:12] <knightwise> aah the allison hannigan wallpaper ?
[14:12]  * knightwise had big time nerd crush on her
[14:12] <knightwise> and i still think she's hot
[14:12] <knightwise> had her on my wallpaper for a long time.
[14:12] <knightwise> Currently boasting artwork from "the mad shipyards" (google to find out)
[14:12] <awilkins> She gets hotter as time goes on, if anything
[14:13] <knightwise> indeed
[14:13] <knightwise> do i like her in ginger more then in dark brown
[14:13] <awilkins> Her turn in "How I Met Your Mother" is nothing short of inspired
[14:13] <dwatkins> Gillian Anderson is awesome
[14:13] <knightwise> gillian anderson ?
[14:13] <awilkins> X-Files Scully
[14:13] <dwatkins> yeah awilkins
[14:13] <knightwise> oh Skully
[14:13] <awilkins> I had the issue of FHM that was trading for £10 a copy on ebay
[14:13] <dwatkins> Karin Gillian isn't bad either, can you detect a theme?
[14:13] <knightwise> yeah .. she's like the big sis everybody wanted as a kid
[14:14] <awilkins> The one with Gillian Anderson in her underwear
[14:14] <knightwise> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHlMXEsEMkY/UNQOSoSLYII/AAAAAAAAAyc/DVc3N2UBPzM/s1600/gillian_anderson_4.jpg
[14:14] <knightwise> sooo pretty
[14:21] <knightwise> cool :) Lxde remote desktop is lightning fast :)
[14:22] <SuperMatt> I would love if someone in canonical worked on a proper rdp contender for linux
[14:22] <BigRedS> ssh -x
[14:22]  * BigRedS doesn't use rdp
[14:22] <SuperMatt> I know we have x-forwarding, but it's not the same as having a whole desktop running quite fast
[14:22] <SuperMatt> and I mean faster than vnc too
[14:23] <SuperMatt> I had to work from home on monday and vnc was painful
[14:23] <dwatkins> NX and VNC are fine for what I need
[14:28] <AlanBell> SuperMatt: I suspect someone will do something with wayland
[14:29] <AlanBell> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html#heading_toc_j_8
[14:29] <knightwise> SuperMatt: you need to connect to a windows machine ?
[14:30] <knightwise> I am currently using NXFree , but thats not realy an 'remote desktop' client
[14:30] <knightwise> more of a terminal server one
[14:32] <knightwise> ha : )
[14:32] <knightwise> used NXfree to connect to a virtual machine i'm running at home
[14:33] <knightwise> virtual machine is also running with another user logged in
[14:33] <knightwise> using vnc to connect to the other X session of that user :)
[14:34] <dwatkins> I often use NX to remote control my machine at home, especially as it has less port restrictions than the office network
[14:36] <SuperMatt> knightwise: no, not connecting to windows.
[14:36] <SuperMatt> RDP just seems to do remote displays way better than vnc
[14:36] <SuperMatt> xfordwarding is nice for the odd app or two, but it can't replace being able to access your hole desktop
[14:40] <awilkins> I think there's an RDP server for Linux somewhere, when I mention it here people link it
[14:40] <awilkins> http://www.xrdp.org/
[14:40]  * SuperMatt nods
[14:40] <SuperMatt> I've never managed to get that to load unity though
[14:41] <SuperMatt> could just be me
[14:41] <knightwise> SuperMatt: i know you'll swear at me but .. teamviewer isn't so bad
[14:43] <SuperMatt> maybe I should just try xrdp when I get home
[15:31] <solarcloud_3srcn> AlanBell: Thank-you once again for sending me a 12.10 DVD that you had spare (plenty for for anyone interested) .. As I recently had an email from Amazon.us about the reality of buying one ... £5 is nothing when you thnk about it .... :: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Ubuntu%20DVD%20..%20the%20reality%20of%20getting%20UBUNTU%20on%20DVD.PNG
[15:34] <AlanBell> wow, always amazes me how many people sell them
[15:36] <solarcloud_3srcn> 2 people, if you look, so far .. but your right, Prob.ly more ..
[15:36] <popey> not a single ubuntu thinkpad on amazon
[15:37] <solarcloud_3srcn> ebay, dr watson, ebay ..
[15:37] <solarcloud_3srcn> su. from Hollande..
[15:37] <solarcloud_3srcn> **usu. from ...
[15:38] <AlanBell> novatech do nice laptops popey :)
[15:38] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/user/NovatechLTD/videos?query=ubuntu
[15:39] <solarcloud_3srcn> still got yours to sell ?? :D
[15:39] <solarcloud_3srcn> I saw Alan Lord's tweet pic.. v. nice.
[15:40] <AlanBell> not selling it, that is aptanet's laptop now :)
[15:40] <solarcloud_3srcn> cool, surethingy.
[15:41] <aptanet> and it's getting well used!
[15:42] <popey> If it doesn't have a touchpoint it's not a proper laptop
[15:42] <popey> so it's thinkpad or dell latitude for me now
[15:42] <solarcloud_3srcn> aptanet: You are darling of new tech. How's the getdeb download's , or haven't you bothered ???
[15:42] <aptanet> getdeb downloads?
[15:44] <aptanet> not looked at them, and the site is offline at the moment - power outage!
[15:44] <solarcloud_3srcn> https://plus.google.com/+getdeb/posts/FF1gRuZN7pM
[15:45] <solarcloud_3srcn> AKA PlayDeb ..
[15:45] <dragonkeeper> http://tinyurl.com/b8lfupt
[15:46] <AlanBell> don't spam us with affiliate links dragonkeeper
[15:46] <solarcloud_3srcn> dragonkeeper: gifgaff is an information controller from ebay .. stay away !!
[15:48] <solarcloud_3srcn> Wonder's if that advert would still be an affiliate link if it was on www.archive.org (or whatever the way-back machine is) ??
[15:49]  * solarcloud_3srcn     "     "   "
[15:50]  * solarcloud_3srcn alsowonders if PlayDeb's archive is ready for the way-back machine ??
[15:51] <AlanBell> on irclogs.ubuntu.com we add rel=nofollow to the links so you don't get google pagerank from spamming junk into the channels
[15:52] <solarcloud_3srcn> logical.
[15:53] <solarcloud_3srcn> \o/ Hello Ginger Thurs.
[15:57] <solarcloud_3srcn> Time for *free* beer dregg's http://goo.gl/1L2YW
[15:58] <dwatkins> dregg's what? ;)
[15:59] <popey> reminds me, must make some more ginger beer
[15:59] <solarcloud_3srcn> Soz ,to many g's http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/dreg
[16:01] <andrewebdev> I've just finished setting up for myself a new pc, and I'm wondering if it's possible to just copy my private ssh key to the new computer, from my old laptop, or should I generate a new one?
[16:01] <brobostigon> another question, what controls inside dlna, the quality of playback on the client ? is it directly the source video quality?
[16:02] <popey> andrewebdev: is your old laptop being decommissioned?
[16:02] <solarcloud_3srcn> AlanBell: Well, at least the #channel is going, at last, today .. thanx everyone.
[16:03] <andrewebdev> popey, I am planning to still use it
[16:03] <popey> if so, I'd copy ~/.ssh over, if not, and you're keeping both machines, I'd create a new one
[16:03] <andrewebdev> ok thx
[16:03] <popey> so if you lose one machine (or it gets stolen or compromised) you can remove that one key from remote machines and keep the safe one
[16:03] <andrewebdev> ah i see that makes sense yes
[16:03] <einonm1> brobostigon: I'm not sure if dlna dlna adaptive streaming
[16:03] <andrewebdev> ta :)
[16:03] <einonm1> ...dlna has adaptive streaming
[16:04] <brobostigon> einonm1: so it adjusts to the client ?
[16:04] <einonm1> to the link speed, if it is present. As I said, I'm not sure if DLNA does that.
[16:05] <brobostigon> einonm1: ok, thank you,
[16:05] <einonm1> basically, it first tests if it can shove the best quality stream down the pipe - if it can't it tries the next best etc.
[16:05] <brobostigon> ah, i see.
[16:05] <einonm1> but you need either multiple streams of different quality, or (like on blu-ray) a codec that can cope with adaptive bitrates
[16:06] <brobostigon> good point,
[16:08] <popey> brobostigon: what client are you using?
[16:09] <brobostigon> popey: mediahouse on android 4.2.1
[16:09] <popey> any good?
[16:10] <brobostigon> not bad, weird menu system, but seems to work well enough,
[16:10] <brobostigon> it was simply the first one i found, so i choose it by chance.
[16:17] <solarcloud_3srcn> popey: Pre-loved.Do they ever stop with the Adverts ? Prob.ly not  http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/list?keyword=thinkpad
[16:47] <solarcloud_3srcn> Is is daftykins or dwatkins , but it looks like my Co-op a/c in St Peters Port 'aint that good anymore   http://www.isleofman.com/News/details/52423/island-signs-tax-co-operation-agreements-with-jersey-and-guernsey
[16:54] <popey> daftykins is an islander
[16:55] <solarcloud_3srcn> popey: Fair enough, I'll talk to him later when he see's the post .. thanx popey.
[17:07] <solarcloud_3srcn> Note to diaspora, *don't worry* it's mostly the Esther-Louise-Rantzen types that live here ... http://goo.gl/b2Jt0
[17:22] <aptanet> getting slightly annoyed with this wireless card dropping connection seemingly randomly
[17:22] <aptanet> each time I have to disable and re-enable wireless to authenticate again :(
[17:24] <solarcloud_3srcn> aptanet: Just outta interest has the novatech laptop/ultrabook gotta Wireless disable screen option in the Bios, like dell's has ?? http://goo.gl/rZKkF . Just askin'     .
[17:25] <aptanet> good question, without rebooting I'm not sure!
[17:26] <solarcloud_3srcn> aptanet: Crumb.s .. hope I've not started anything, Oh dear.
[17:26] <popey> aptanet: which wireless device is it?
[17:26] <aptanet> not sure about the BIOS, but there's a hotkey on the keyboard - and it works
[17:26] <aptanet> Ralink corp. Device 3290
[17:27] <aptanet> I've had to update the kernel and install firmware to get it working
[17:29] <aptanet> that said, my netbook does exactly the same thing with the stock kernel and an express card nic
[17:30] <popey> aptanet: 12.10?
[17:44] <aptanet> popey, yes
[17:45] <solarcloud_3srcn> http://h-node.org/search/results/en/1/search/wifi/Ralink
[18:14] <solarcloud_3srcn> @seen daftykins
[18:15]  * solarcloud_3srcn just forgot who to ask to 'see' ppl's last sighting since absence ??
[18:16] <solarcloud_3srcn> AlanBell: thoughts on above Question. ??
[18:30] <AlanBell> sorry, which question, I wasn't paying attention
[18:30] <AlanBell> and I am off out now
[18:30] <AlanBell> ping me with a question and I will see it
[18:31] <solarcloud_3srcn> no prob.s.
[18:52] <solarcloud_3srcn> Laura Boyle – Mitchelstown http://open.spotify.com/track/6W5SZHPJ9reZ9kLhBZ7Mv9  Awaiting bigcalm 's arrival...
[18:58] <cocoa117> when using nfsv4 to export filesystem to linux client. does the locally bind filesystem automatically export?
[18:59] <cocoa117> e.g. /media/pool/family on /srv/sto/home/pans/multimedia type none (rw,bind)
[19:00] <cocoa117> so when i exports /srv/sto/home as root to clients, do i get access to the /meida/pool/family folder?
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> I have no idea.. what happened when you tried? ;)
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> hm
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> Bug 1085342 is getting annoying
[19:41] <daftykins> solarcloud_3srcn: co-op in St. Peter Port? huh?
[19:54] <solarcloud_3srcn> daftykins: Ignorance is bliss ! But there is an ethical bank in .. I'll PM'd you...
[19:55] <daftykins> roger that
[20:30] <bigcalm> Evening peeps
[20:31] <brobostigon> evening bigcalm
[20:32] <bigcalm> What am I missing out on by doing work rather than IRC during the day time?
[20:33] <solarcloud_3srcn> bigcalm: Mostly Links from your UrlGrabber :: http://www.redbubble.com/people/robbrown/works/8613327-ubuntu-linux-for-human-beings
[20:34] <bigcalm> My url grabber?
[20:34] <solarcloud_3srcn> Sorry I use Xchat ...
[20:35] <bigcalm> That's nothing to be ashamed of ;)
[20:36] <solarcloud_3srcn> Yeah, If only I could figure women out too ! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/understanding%20women%20book.jpg
[23:02] <directhex> http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594741935758161354/659E25E17B1F8C8BC58459B1288B19F95A6AF7AE/
[23:04] <popey> wossat?
[23:06] <Azelphur> half life 1 :P
[23:06] <directhex> popey, hl1, just released for linux and osx
[23:06] <directhex> as in 11 minutes ago
[23:06] <Azelphur> WHAT
[23:06]  * Azelphur downloads hard.
[23:06] <popey> hah
[23:12] <Azelphur> aww, I only have half life source.
[23:12] <directhex> steam steam://install/70
[23:13] <solarcloud_3srcn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaF5O5Mzi9E&list=PLcrbfJq0A8FltP69pumdih1X0VQMb7adq
[23:13] <Azelphur> yea just takes me to the buy page
[23:21] <solarcloud_3srcn> I remember a lot of this :: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Half%20Life%20Loading%20Bar.PNG
[23:23] <directhex> solarcloud_3srcn, then you're a youngun. there was no bar like that in pre-steam half-life
[23:23] <directhex> remember, this is a game from 1998
[23:24] <solarcloud_3srcn> mmmmphf .... '98 tech .. What's the big deal about then ??
[23:25] <cambrianExplosio> Hi everyone, is anyone using Ubuntu on a Macbook here?
[23:25] <solarcloud_3srcn> not me ..
[23:26] <directhex> well, there was no steam. half-life came instead with "sierra utilities". which had a minor bug whereby it would delete all your files when you uninstalled it
[23:26] <directhex> half-life patch day was hell. a 45-meg patch on 28.8k dialup was lame
[23:26] <solarcloud_3srcn> Sounds familiar.
[23:31] <solarcloud_3srcn> mmmmhpf .... '98 tech .. What's the big deal about *today* ,then ??
[23:33] <directhex> solarcloud_3srcn, well, it's been ported to linux and osx, and released within the last hour
[23:34] <directhex> part of why that's interesting is a) steam for mac came out years ago, yet never saw ports of hl1-based games, and b) the rather messy history of the unreleased osx port
[23:35] <solarcloud_3srcn> screw this |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| I'm seeing what www.phoronix.com says ...
[23:42] <popey> that's an interesting point directhex, I hadn't considered that.
[23:42] <popey> we're up to what? 60+ Linux games on steam now?
[23:42] <directhex> popey, fully working, or in the CDR?
[23:43] <popey> both?
[23:45] <directhex> 45 and 84 respectively
[23:46] <directhex> YMMV. IANAL. IDDQD.
[23:46] <directhex> i have 53 of them
[23:53] <popey> nice


[10:27] <Ankhwatcher> hi hi!
[10:27] <Ankhwatcher> Is there a good way to get mythtv to quickly re-scan for tv channels?
[10:27] <Ankhwatcher> I'm using satelite and the channels move around and dissapear every now and then
[13:07] <Ankhwatcher> Where should I go to find out why I can't start mythexport? http://pastebin.com/whsLQQp0
[13:07] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] [Bash] MythExport is not running - Pastebin.com


[00:01] <BobJonkman2> cjopcjop: make sure you use the correct package name
[00:02] <BobJonkman2> Tab completion usually works, so try "apt-get remove py<TAB>" and see what you're prompted with
[00:02] <BobJonkman2> (press the TAB key, of course, don't type <TAB> :)
[00:04] <BobJonkman2> Incidentally, I have both Pythonn 2.7 and Pythonn 3.2 installed on my laptop (needed for a course). They seem to co-exist nicely...
[00:10] <cjopcjop> Tab give me 'Python' as is
[00:10] <cjopcjop> Hmm..
[00:10] <cjopcjop> Thoughts?
[00:37] <BobJonkman2> TAB again...
[00:41] <cjopcjop> 2.6 is next in line amongst a list of other python assorted goodness. There, using the power of deduction, I'm going to go ahead and remove it but should I also use --purge?


[00:05] <det> Does this error make any sense?
[00:05] <det> Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.
[00:05] <det> I am sure I am signing with "debuild -S"
[00:06] <det> Also the command says there are good signatures on the dsc and changes before it uploads
[00:07] <det> And now I get email from launchpad saying the upload was Accepted ...
[00:09] <mwhudson> is that the thing were /tmp gets cleaned up on the server every $N days?
[00:09] <mwhudson> wgrant: ^ ?
[00:11] <lifeless> we thought it was
[00:11] <lifeless> now we're totally flummoxed
[00:11] <lifeless> bug 798957
[07:57] <danhg> huwshimi
[09:37] <mrevell> Morning
[10:08] <pitti> hello everyone
[10:08] <pitti> any idea when https://staging.launchpad.net/ will come back? it's down since at least yesterday
[10:09] <wgrant> pitti: It's been down for a couple of days, but will hopefully be back in a few hours. Let me check.
[10:10] <pitti> ah, thanks; the apport test suite runs against that, and I don't really want to make large changes without running it
[10:10] <wgrant> Can you run it against qastaging instead?
[10:13] <tumbleweed> on a related topic, can we have a non-production launchpad that's vaguely up to date? (qastaging pre-dates precise, and dogfood thinks we are on "rusty robot")
[10:14] <tumbleweed> testing any package-related API client on non-production is impossible
[10:15] <wgrant> tumbleweed: staging is normally refreshed every week. The last three months have been exceptional and it's gone 6 weeks without updating, but as of last weekend it should be updating weekly again.
[10:15] <tumbleweed> ok, awesome, that's what I remembered
[10:18] <pitti> wgrant: sure, if that's better; I just don't want to run it against production
[10:20] <wgrant> pitti: Either is fine.
[10:20] <wgrant> But only one is up right now :)
[10:21] <wgrant> Hopefully staging will find its DB backup and the update will work in an hour or so.
[10:22] <pitti> wgrant: is that also reset every day and synced to the real LP, or a separate DB like dogfood?
[10:23] <pitti> test suite running, let's see how far it gets
[10:24] <wgrant> pitti: It's reset every couple of months, normally.
[10:24] <wgrant> Manually.
[10:24] <wgrant> dogfood every 6 months, very manually.
[10:25] <wgrant> staging automatically weekly, unless things are broken.
[10:25] <pitti> it seems to hang eternally on uploading a crash, though
[10:25] <pitti> perhaps this doesn't have a cronjob for processing blobc?
[10:25] <pitti> blobs even
[10:26] <wgrant> Ah, that's a good point.
[10:26] <wgrant> I've just asked for staging to be brought up manually.
[10:26] <wgrant> Hopefully it will be with us in a minute or so.
[10:27] <pitti> wgrant: ok, cheers!
[10:33] <wgrant> pitti: It's not that easy, unfortunately. The last update failed in a place that's less easily recoverable. Will have to wait a couple of hours for the update to rerun.
[11:03] <andy_js> How do I get launchpad to really use OpenID instead of testopenid.dev???
[15:03] <brendand> i uploaded a package to the wrong series and then deleted it. now i can't re-upload it to the correct series because it say the tar.gz file already exists
[15:40] <mrevell> We've just enabled our new customisable bug listings : http://blog.launchpad.net/?p=3005
[15:41] <dobey> brendand: you need to change the version in debian/changelog. it should look something like $UPSTREAMVERSION-$UBUNTUVERSION~$SERIES[0-9+]
[15:42] <brendand> dobey - doh. i really should have thought of that
[15:42] <dobey> brendand: it's on the PPA help page I believe :)
[15:43] <brendand> dobey - it doesn't say that actually. it suggests something more complicated
[15:46] <soren> Is there a bug about mailing lists being slow?
[15:46] <dobey> also, the series obviously has to be correct in debian/changelog
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, is ppa.launchpad.net broken?
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> i can't do any PPA uploads
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> oh, ok, it seems to be working now
[17:19] <aber> hmm… Repository size: 2.9 GiB (100.00%) of 2.0 GiB… Could I get a little more space? :D
[17:19] <aber> https://launchpad.net/~widelands-dev/+archive/widelands-daily
[17:29] <jelmer> aber: please file a question against the launchpad project, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[19:05] <lag> A little help
[19:05] <lag> I get this:
[19:05] <lag> Uploading linux-image-linaro-lt-ux500_3.0.0-1000.11_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.
[19:05] <lag> Then the package appears in my PPA?
[19:23] <Daviey> lag: Known issue, it's a false warning
[20:29] <nailora> about that  Dynamic bug listings thing: currently it is a waste of screen real estate. i can see like 20% as much bugs as i could before.
[20:29] <lifeless> hi
[20:30] <lifeless> there is a thread about that. I think its on the launchpad-dev mailing list, but it might be launchpad-users.
[20:30] <lifeless> or was it a bug, let me see
[20:32] <lifeless> nailora: bug 894442
[20:34] <nailora> thanks
[20:36] <ajmitch> lifeless: any particular tags we should using when filing bugs about the dynamic listing?
[20:36] <lifeless> abentley will know for sure, but IIRC bug-columns is th eone
[20:36] <ajmitch> ok, thanks
[20:36] <abentley> lifeless: correct.
[20:37] <lag> Daviey: Ta
[20:44] <ajmitch> oh that's a new error, "Unexpected form data"
[20:44]  * ajmitch files another bug
[20:48] <ajmitch> bug 894536
[20:49] <nailora> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs gets timeout errrors now
[21:06] <flacoste> nailora: yeah, that's bug 892820 i think
[22:18] <tumbleweed> OOPS-7c3f92710e2e281b7bf768d44f2527cb timeout on dynamic bug listings


[00:17] <BUGabundo> ahhh my pillow called... she wants me back. see you tomorrow µfriends
[06:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: FYI, Firefox/xulrunner will be respun
[06:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: upstream I mean
[22:21] <BUGabundo> oias


[06:04] <__raven_> hi
[06:04] <__raven_> how to configure backend on a cli-only server?
[06:05] <Shadow__X> x forwarding should work
[06:05] <__raven_> would work if i could activate x if necessary without problems
[06:08] <Shadow__X> huh?
[06:17] <__raven_> ?
[06:17] <__raven_> startx does not work at all, xxinit only with lxsession but that messes up all other config and does autostart
[06:22] <Shadow__X> and x forwarding wouldn't work with that?
[06:22] <__raven_> xforward only works with a running x on the host machine
[06:24] <__raven_> sudo apt-get install lxc
[06:24] <__raven_> sry
[06:26] <Shadow__X> ah ok
[07:13] <__raven_> any ideas?
[14:04] <Shadow__X> __raven_: i am pretty sure x server is a requirement
[14:04] <Shadow__X> so just have it run temporarily
[14:04] <Shadow__X> i may have found something
[14:06] <Shadow__X> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/mythtvsetup-without-x-3951/#post15331
[14:06] <Shadow__X> you can do that
[14:06] <Shadow__X> but from everything i have seen you need x server. so unless omseone else here finds something
[14:06] <Shadow__X> you need to install x just change the run level and not have it run on boot
[16:14] <__raven_> Shadow__X: yes i know but as i said my problem is (not really related to mythtv) to configure that cleanly
[16:15] <__raven_> xserver i mean because xinit does not work, startx does not work, lxsession is wrong and so on
[16:16] <Shadow__X> is it a bad install or something?
[16:16] <__raven_> dont know
[16:16] <__raven_> cannot start x as user
[16:16] <__raven_> but as root it does not help much
[17:26] <__raven_> another problem: mythbuntu-control-centre does not work at all via ssh xforward. settings do not take effect and window stays busy forever


[00:11] <xnox> vorlon:  it's a low, but yes. should release to -updates first; as push to -security is an avalanche of all the packages.
[00:12] <xnox> vorlon:  ie. we want to coordinate release to -security slightly later.
[00:25] <vorlon> xnox: does this mean the security team should sign off on it being ready to release to updates, since there are changes with no bug and no test case?
[00:29] <xnox> vorlon:  i have no idea what the process is. Or i can open a launchpad bug report with the CVE identifier and a test case.
[00:29] <xnox> "specs say this is max; use max; don't use anything higher than max; try to use more than max; fail"
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 (eoan-proposed/primary) [430.26-0ubuntu1]
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1042.47] (kernel)
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1042.47]
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected scilab [sync] (bionic-updates) [6.0.1-7ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected scilab [sync] (disco-updates) [6.0.2-0ubuntu2~19.04]
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected scilab [sync] (cosmic-updates) [6.0.1-7ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[09:37] <apw> ^ all direct to -updates
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.0.0-1009.10] (no packageset)
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1009.10]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (disco-proposed) [20101020ubuntu570.1]
[12:32] <LocutusOfBorg> please update: force-badtest libgd2/2.2.5-5/amd64 libgd2/2.2.5-5.1/amd64 to
[12:32] <LocutusOfBorg> force-badtest libgd2/2.2.5-5/amd64 libgd2/2.2.5-5.1/amd64 libgd2/2.2.5-5.2/amd64
[12:32] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [source] (bionic-proposed) [237-3ubuntu10.23]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (cosmic-proposed) [20101020ubuntu557.2]
[13:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (bionic-proposed) [20101020ubuntu543.8]
[13:16] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, ^^ can you please bump the hint?
[13:17] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, yu have confirmed it is the same ?
[13:50] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, anyhow done
[13:50] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry!
[13:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I can't reach anymore any website *ubuntu*
[13:51] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, got a specific one?  ubuntu.com works for me
[13:51] <LocutusOfBorg> looks like vodafone is screwing up with dns
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: netbeans (bionic-proposed/universe) [10.0-3~18.04.1ubuntu1 => 10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: netbeans (cosmic-proposed/universe) [10.0-3~18.04.1ubuntu1 => 10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: netbeans (disco-proposed/universe) [10.0-3 => 10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:22] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, anyway, yes! it is the same as before
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tomcat8 (bionic-proposed/universe) [8.5.39-1ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 8.5.39-1ubuntu1~18.04.2] (kubuntu) (sync)
[14:42] <Laney> http://[2001:ba8:1f1:d03:216:3eff:fef0:f2f0]/
[14:42] <Laney> getting there with the new charms
[14:58] <rharper> sil2100: I was wondering if you could remove the curtin upload into the unapproved queues (xenial, bionic, cosmic, disco)?  I need to upload a replacment with a change to debian/control (not a new version)
[15:01] <rharper> s/into/in
[15:11] <sil2100> rharper: sure, on it
[15:12] <rharper> sil2100: thanks!
[15:12] <apw> rharper: you don't need to wait for them to be rejected to replace them
[15:12] <rharper> apw: even with the same version?
[15:12] <rharper> dput with --force or something ?
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (cosmic-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (disco-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (bionic-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (xenial-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[15:13] <apw> rharper: right, they really don't exist in archive terms in the queue
[15:13] <rharper> apw: nice! thanks for that
[15:14] <apw> 2 of the same version will cause confusion for the reviewers, which you resolve by telling us here what you are doing
[15:15] <rharper> apw: right
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (disco-proposed) [2.2.40-0ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.2.40-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.2.40-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.2.40-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (xenial-proposed/main) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (ubuntu-server)
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (bionic-proposed/main) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (cosmic-proposed/main) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.10.1 => 19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.10.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (disco-proposed/main) [18.2-22-g08bf6ff7-0ubuntu1 => 19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~19.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:46] <rharper> sil2100: thanks for the help, if you have time, could you look at the curtin SRU to approve into the -proposed pocket, https://bugs.launchpad.net/curtin/+bug/1831772
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.40]
[15:54] <sil2100> rharper: let me try getting to that today
[15:54] <rharper> thanks!  appreciate your help
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 [source] (eoan-proposed) [430.26-0ubuntu1]
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 [i386] (eoan-proposed/restricted) [430.26-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netbeans [sync] (disco-proposed) [10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1]
[16:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 [amd64] (eoan-proposed/restricted) [430.26-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 [i386] (eoan-proposed) [430.26-0ubuntu1]
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-430 [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [430.26-0ubuntu1]
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted scilab [sync] (disco-proposed) [6.0.2-0ubuntu2~19.04]
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted scilab [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [6.0.1-7ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> Not sure what's going on and why ubuntustudio-controls is stuck in eoan-proposed, but, it's stuck. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-controls/1.8.1
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected netbeans [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected netbeans [sync] (bionic-proposed) [10.0-3ubuntu2~18.04.1]
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted scilab [sync] (bionic-proposed) [6.0.1-7ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[17:06] <ginggs> Eickmeyer: from https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[17:07] <ginggs> trying: ubuntustudio-controls
[17:07] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: Thanks, I couldn't remember the spot.
[17:07] <ginggs>     got: 4+0: a-0:a-0:a-2:i-0:p-0:s-2
[17:07] <ginggs>     * armhf: ubuntustudio-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop-core
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tomcat8 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [8.5.39-1ubuntu1~18.04.2]
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: I'm not 100% sure what's broken there. Got any clues?
[17:18] <acheronuk> it means migrating  ubuntustudio-controls would result in armhf: ubuntustudio-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop-core being uninstallable
[17:18] <acheronuk> working out why that should be is the trick....
[17:19] <Eickmeyer> acheronuk: That's strange. I just checked the seed (generates the metapackages) and can't find any clues there.
[17:33]  * Eickmeyer fixed the version number, probably the problem
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gstreamer-vaapi [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gstreamer-editing-services1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-base1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1ubuntu1.1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-good1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:19] <Eickmeyer> acheronuk: Thanks. Looks like it was depending on a package that doesn't build in certain architectures. Demoted that to recommends, so that should fix it.
[18:20] <acheronuk> Eickmeyer: sounds plausible. welcome to proposed migration "why the hell doesn't that migrate" fun ;)
[18:21] <Eickmeyer> hahaha
[18:21] <acheronuk> sometimes it is obivious
[18:21] <acheronuk> sometimes it is WTF
[18:22] <Eickmeyer> This was a bit more WTF than obvious, but once I figured out what was wrong (what changed? It just now depends on.... oh, great. >.<), i reuploaded.
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-bad1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-python1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-libav1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-ugly1.0 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.14.4-1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[18:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (bionic-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[18:41] <sil2100> rharper: hey, the disco curtin upload has a lot of bugs in the .changes file
[18:41] <rharper> sil2100: urg; sorry, lemme fix l; thank you for the review
[18:41] <sil2100> rharper: I would expect only the tracking bug and the dependency-removal bugs to be present like in the other series
[18:41] <sil2100> Thanks! Let me reject it then ;)
[18:41] <rharper> correct; my mistake;  Thanks again for catching my mistakes
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (cosmic-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (disco-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[18:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (xenial-proposed) [19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[19:05] <sil2100> rharper: yw, small mistakes like that happen! Anyway, I will be going EOD now, but please upload it whenever you have a moment
[19:05] <sil2100> I'll upload it when I see it in the queue
[19:05] <sil2100> o/
[19:05] <rharper> sil2100: thanks!
[19:05] <sil2100> s/upload/review
[19:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (disco-proposed/main) [18.2-22-g08bf6ff7-0ubuntu1 => 19.1-7-g37a7a0f4-0ubuntu1~19.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.525.27]
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> could somebody please copy the adobe-flashplugin partner packages that are sat in proposed for xenial -> disco? (and copy them to release in a bit)
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (bionic-proposed/main) [2.525.27 => 2.525.28] (desktop-core)
[19:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.525.28]
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: s390-tools-signed (eoan-proposed/primary) [2.9.0-0ubuntu2]
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: s390-tools (eoan-proposed/main) [2.9.0-0ubuntu2 => 2.9.0-0ubuntu2] (core)


[07:03] <amurray> new podcast episode just went live https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-120/ ;)


[09:27] <huats> morning
[13:26] <Laney> Dudes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tomboy/+bug/666511
[13:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 666511 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Note data loss with Tomboy sync to Ubuntu One, for notes created in Gnote (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[13:26] <Laney> tomboy probably wants SRUing
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> Laney, you can upload tomboy can't you?
[13:35] <Laney> sadly so :P
[13:35] <popey> heh
[13:36] <popey> i was gonna ping you about that actually
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> Laney, just do it ;)
[13:36] <Laney> just a heads-up because it might not be particularly rapid from me
[13:36] <Laney> Debian First™
[13:37]  * Laney sprints to breakfast
[14:40] <seb128> is anybody there wanting to sru bug #636329?
[14:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 636329 in gimp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Gimp: Print preview and printout are blank pages (affects: 26) (dups: 2) (heat: 142)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636329
[14:41] <seb128> or rather to do a sru update with the upstream patch on bug #636329
[14:42] <bilalakhtar> seb128: me!
[14:42] <seb128> bilalakhtar, great ;-)
[14:42]  * bilalakhtar assigns
[14:43] <seb128> pedro_, hey
[14:43] <seb128> pedro_, could you investigate if bug #657505 is known upstream?
[14:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 657505 in f-spot (Ubuntu) "f-spot crashes when printing (affects: 3) (heat: 244)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657505
[14:44] <pedro_> seb128, hey, yes , looking at it now
[14:44] <seb128> thank you
[16:16] <didrocks> pedro_: got me!
[16:17] <pedro_> didrocks, \o/
[16:20] <didrocks> :)
[16:21] <mterry_> didrocks, I have a patch to fix the build error for amd64 gtk+3.0 in the testing PPA (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gnome3-builds/+packages).  Can you upload it for me?  I'll pastebin the patch
[16:21] <mterry_> (can't find seb128)
[16:22] <mterry_> didrocks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/520223/
[16:23] <didrocks> mterry_: oh nice! doing it :)
[16:27] <nxvl> didrocks: is there any known issues about unity with ATI cards, when i run unity it eats like 60% of my CPU
[16:27] <nxvl> didrocks: but with gnome works ok
[16:27] <didrocks> nxvl: yeah, ATI card aren't very good with mutter currently
[16:28] <didrocks> and there are some bug report about it :)
[16:28] <nxvl> didrocks: so i basically shouldn't tun unity?
[16:28] <nxvl> run*
[16:28] <didrocks> nxvl: not in maverick, with the incoming compiz rewrite in natty, ATI card will be way better regarding to unity
[16:28] <nxvl> ok
[16:29] <nxvl> thanks
[16:29] <didrocks> yw
[17:03] <LaserJock> so, I found a bite-sized bug on Harvest for gedit, there's a simple patch attached, can anybody direct me to the right process for getting this uploaded?
[17:06] <seb128> LaserJock, I would say subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors
[17:06] <seb128> or apply it to the package and update the changelog and get a debdiff
[17:06] <seb128> then subscribe the sponsors
[17:07] <ricotz> seb128, hi
[17:08] <seb128> ricotz, hey
[17:08] <ricotz> seb128, could you upload a patched version of gobject-introspection? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58100948/gobject-introspection_0.9.12-0ubuntu1_0.9.12-0ubuntu2~11.04~ricotz1.diff.gz
[17:08] <ricotz> it is missing the dbus typelibs
[17:09] <seb128> ricotz, can you open a bug about that?
[17:09] <seb128> I'm a bit busy this week at UDS but I will try to make a slot for that
[17:10] <ricotz> ok
[17:23] <LaserJock> seb128: k, I wasn't sure if there was anything special to do for ubuntu-desktop packages
[17:24] <LaserJock> the patch formatting should be obvious from other patches or is there a tool for that these days?
[17:24] <seb128> no
[17:24]  * LaserJock is very very rusty
[17:24] <seb128> usually you just need to drop the patch in the debian patches directory
[17:24] <seb128> no need to use any specific format, just standard diff
[21:36] <mbiebl> there is a funny typo on http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
[21:36] <mbiebl> "get information to the user *with* distracting users from the work they are doing"
[21:40] <seb128> mbiebl, thanks, I will relay to the people working on it
[21:43] <didrocks> already reported IIRC :)
[21:43] <didrocks> (was so great to assign a bug to jono)
[21:43] <seb128> didrocks, what is the component for those bugs?
[21:44] <seb128> the website?
[21:44] <didrocks> seb128: the bug was reported against unity, so I just assigned it to jono and didn't change the component
[21:44] <seb128> ok
[21:47] <kipi> hi guys. is there any  chance of a decent voice/speech-recognition in ubuntu? I've often have my hands full or engaged elsewhere, but I'd like to dictate mail verbally
[22:42] <kenvandine> pitti, should i upload the tomboy fix to natty? or will it just get copied over?