[12:00] <PORDO> what about epiphany?
[12:00] <PORDO> links?
[12:00] <Intune> wait, i'll try
[12:00] <roostishaw> ok
[12:00] <marcipano> could anyone help me with Crossover Office and cyrillic support in it ?:(
[12:00] <Fire-NR> urm can synaptic be run from command line? or do i need to apt-get install?
[12:01] <ecormier> system-admin-synaptic in the menus
[12:01] <Fire-NR> not got a gui setup yet
[12:01] <Fire-NR> trying to install ati drivers
[12:01] <ecormier> try aptitude then
[12:01] <Fire-NR> thanks
[12:01] <ecormier> "sudo aptitude" to be exact
[12:01] <BrianHH> Can anyone help me exorcise the demon of jre from my system??  It's destroyed apt-get!! :(
[12:02] <guard> !find wx-config
[12:02] <Intune> i can't install any other software because it always tries to download them from the net, and that fails, too
[12:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'wx-config' (1 shown): (/usr/share/apps/kdevappwizard/template-common/wx-configure.in) in universe/kde/kdevelop3-data.
[12:02] <crimsun> guard: we don't use that nomenclature.
[12:02] <rseward> if I want to compile ndiswrapper which linux-source package should I install???
are you using this chat on the problem computer,...it sounds like you have nothing
[12:02] <crimsun> rseward: none. use linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:02] <rseward> linux-source-2.6.12 seems to install a tar.bz2?
[12:02] <guard> crimsun what nomneclature than is it locate?
[12:02] <rseward> crimsun: thanks.
[12:02] <phyre-x> theres a nice walk through of ndiswrapper on ubuntuforums
[12:03] <crimsun> guard: /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-unicode-release-2.6
[12:03] <crimsun> guard: located in the libwxgtk2.6-dev package
[12:03] <guard> crimsun, thanx i needed the package name thanx again
[12:04] <Intune> no, it's not on this computer
[12:04] <SurfnKid> is mount used to mount and unmount?
[12:04] <Intune> but it's the notebook beside me
[12:04] <ecormier> yeah I'd say there's nothing....
[12:04] <warpzone> hey guys, anybody mind helping me for a second wth the fglrx driver installation?
[12:04] <ecormier> you say ping works??
[12:04] <lukaswayne9> Hello, I'm looking to buy a TV card.  Where can I find a list of TV cards that are fully supported in Ubuntu?
[12:04] <Intune> yes, and i can resolve IPs from domain names
[12:04] <mitchman> mount to mount 'umount' to unmount
[12:04] <guard> warpzone, native drives have 3-d accel why you need fglrx?
[12:04] <ecormier> thats so weird
[12:05] <KaiSV1> !ati
[12:05] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:05] <Intune> i can even get machine information on servers from that network tools window
[12:05] <ecormier> have you tried a wget transfer
[12:05] <SurfnKid> oh its umount
[12:05] <warpzone> guard, i want to use the TV-out feature which isnt supported by the native drivers
[12:05] <SurfnKid> right
[12:05] <SurfnKid> thx
[12:05] <Intune> i'll try
[12:05] <Intune> sorry that i don't come up with these things myself, i'm a total linux newbie..
[12:05] <ecormier> I think everyone is
[12:05] <ecormier> :)
[12:05] <warpzone> lukaswayne9, get an nVidia, thats all I can say. ATI doesnt support much and the drivers stink
[12:06] <ecormier> I agree warpzone
[12:06] <r3k13m> if i install a program in, for example, /opt, how i can execute the program by command without put all the pathway?
[12:06] <delrio> if your talking about ASP this is for Windows not Linux right?
[12:06] <guard> warpzone, ok what do you want. there is a good help on the forums for the new 8.25.18 if that is what you are looking for
[12:06] <Intune> hehe :)
[12:06] <lukaswayne9> warpzone: i'm not looking for a tv and video card, i'm looking for just a pci tv card
[12:06] <ecormier> anybody have any trouble with the fglrx upgrade today...I upgraded and now no opengl at all
[12:06] <guard> warpzone, but you can just install the older 8.24 something from the repos. i installed both and there is not much a difference
[12:07] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrz (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:07] <guard> warpzone, than i found the native ones better in term of stability
[12:07] <delrio> can you run an ASP in ubuntu?
[12:07] <RandolphCarter> lukaswayne9: most Hauppage cards are supported, Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T Card is a sure bet
[12:07] <rseward> I wish Windows Server 2003 had an IRC channel like this.
[12:07] <warpzone> guard, never checked the forums, I was following the ubuntu wiki BinaryDriverHowto. I'll check the forums before continuing! thanks!
[12:07] <load> are there any packagers in here?
[12:07] <guard> warpzone, let me get the link for you
[12:07] <warpzone> guard, thanks a bunch man
[12:08] <load> I have a question about pbuilder
[12:08] <Intune> oh great, now the network adapter disappeared alltogether
[12:08] <ecormier> I'd sayit wasn't really there in the first place
[12:08] <Intune> not much to try anymore then
[12:08] <warpzone> lukaswayne9, dont know much about pure TV cards. :(
[12:08] <ecormier> whats the adapter??
[12:08] <Intune> yes it was, i checked it in the network window
[12:08] <Intune> and i could open the config page of my network's router
[12:09] <ecormier> is it wireless
[12:09] <BrianHH> Is there something like a registry in Ubuntu that I could rip JRE from?  I'm having fits trying to figure this crap out. :(
[12:09] <Intune> yes
[12:09] <ecormier> what kind ?
[12:09] <Intune> but i can access my router over wireless
[12:09] <mitchman> ubuntu doesnt have a registry
[12:09] <ecormier> do you knpw
[12:09] <Intune> the receiver?
[12:09] <ecormier> the wireless in the problem computer
[12:09] <RandolphCarter> doh :( network-manager doesn't much care for my 11420 host blacklist :/
[12:10] <Intune> i don't know, it's built-in in my HP nx8220 notebook
[12:10] <void^> BrianHH: update-alternatives --list java
[12:10] <Intune> but that shouldn't bother ubuntu under vmware, right?
[12:10] <ecormier> you might want to google "nx8220 linux wireless"
[12:10] <Intune> because the system running vmware can access everything
[12:10] <sflash> hey guyes, i had live cd question
[12:10] <Ubuntunoob> ok... tried downloading aegis virusscanner from "add apps", and nothing happends... cant fint it in the menu, and cant start it from term.
[12:10] <lukaswayne9> mitchman: well ubuntu has gconf
[12:10] <ecormier> ohhhhh you're in vmware
[12:11] <sflash> I need to add my user on the sudoers list, i can do that using the live cd correct?
[12:11] <guard> warpzone, check the post by noof #51 that what worked for me here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181724&page=6
[12:11] <mitchman> ubuntu stores its configurations as plain text files
[12:11] <pakirri> has anybody tried to use Orinoco Wireless Silver Card with Network Manager on Ubuntu Dapper
[12:11] <warpzone> guard. will do, thanks again man
[12:11] <Ubuntunoob> ok... tried downloading aegis virusscanner from "add apps", and nothing happends... cant fint it in the menu, and cant start it from term. anyone know why?
[12:11] <bleech> does anyone know how to somehow view an activex enabled page?  can I do it with internet explorer in wine?
[12:12] <BrianHH> void^:  Thanks.  I've got a program called gij-wrapper and /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java.  If I eradicate those, will I get my system back?
[12:12] <Sub> Ubuntunoob, you dont need a virus scanner with linux :D
[12:12] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrz (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:12] <void^> BrianHH: err.. what or who took your system away?
[12:12] <SurfnKid> ok the mount thing didnt do me any help cuz i dont have any more disk space so forget it :D
[12:12] <Intune> yes i mentioned vmware :)
[12:12] <Ubuntunoob> Sub, i've heard that.... but just wanted to check it out :p
[12:12] <Intune> funny thing is, after installing ubunti, it worked. i rebooted once, it stopped working
[12:12] <Sub> well, i dunno becuas eive never installed anti-virus on a linux machine.
[12:12] <ecormier> try rebooting again??
[12:13] <BrianHH> void^:  JRE did it.  Every time I try to run apt-get now, I get the message, "The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:13] <BrianHH> "  And I can't do squat  with apt-get as a result.
[12:13] <Intune> vmware forums tell me to add 'auto eth0' to etc/network/interfaces, but that's already there
[12:13] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: the only reason you would want a virus scanner in linux is for protecting yourself from accidentally infecting a windows computer during file transfers
[12:13] <Intune> i rebooted about 20 times by now :)
[12:13] <ecormier> thats not the problem...if the adapter isn't showing up, the correct module may not have loaded....I'd try a reboot first
[12:13] <ecormier> ok
[12:13] <void^> BrianHH: the package is called "jre" ?
[12:13] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, how can that be a problem?
[12:14] <Intune> yes the adapter is back
[12:14] <Intune> but still no internet
[12:14] <BrianHH> void^:  That's what it says, but when I try to uninstall using apt-get, I get the same message.
[12:14] <ecormier> so reboot won't work....I'd start googling the keywords ...like "vmware ubuntu network adapter"
[12:14] <ecormier> adapters back?
[12:15] <Intune> yes
[12:15] <ecormier> system-admin-networking
[12:15] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: say you download some file that has a virus onto your linux machine.  now if you go transfer that file to a windows machine, you might infect it but your linux machine is fine
[12:15] <ecormier> Intune are you command line or gui
[12:16] <void^> BrianHH: hm.. you can probably use -m/-f to make apt-get ignore the problem. never encountered anything like it (i don't use apt based distros that much..). sorry, can't help with that; but deleting any java related files won't solve the problem.
[12:16] <Intune> gui
[12:16] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: i've done it by accident once when backing up files from a windows machine onto my linux one
[12:16] <BrianHH> Ubuntunoob:  You can only be a carrier for a virus.  You can't get infected yourself.
[12:16] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, hehe... kk.... try to remember that....
[12:16] <ecormier> yeah so go to the menu "system-admin-networking"
[12:16] <ecormier> what adapters do you see
[12:16] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: yeah.. what BrianHH said
[12:17] <sflash> im using knoppix live cd, anyone know a text editer with it?
[12:17] <Intune> lo and eth0
[12:17] <BrianHH> void^:  So apt-get -f install should work?
[12:17] <T-CAN> if i save a .txt file on a floppy from windows, will i be able to view it on ubuntu?
[12:17] <ecormier> click eth0 and hit properties
[12:17] <mitchman> sflash:  you could use vi or kedit
[12:17] <ecormier> do you have DHCP on your router
[12:17] <ollo82_> T-CAN: yes
[12:17] <T-CAN> nothing special needed?
[12:18] <Intune> yes
[12:18] <ollo82_> no
[12:18] <BrianHH> T-CAN:  Yes.  You can view it in vi or nedit or whatever text editor you want.
[12:18] <T-CAN> k, thanks
[12:18] <ecormier> is it set in properties to use dhcp
[12:18] <Intune> yes
[12:18] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, so... when i recently started my cpu now, i got the message of a forced systemcheck, cause it had been mounted more than 30 times, its not actually a virus?
[12:18] <Intune> i am logged in to the network correctly, i can access all the other computers in the network, and the router/hub
[12:18] <ecormier> is eth0 set as the default gateway device
[12:18] <Intune> yet all the other computers can access the internet, and ubuntu cannot
[12:19] <Intune> 1sec...
[12:19] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: no... thats a standard filesystem integrity check
[12:19] <BrianHH> bleech:  That didn't work, either.  :(  It completely ignored the -f flag and just gave me the same error message.
[12:19] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, ah... kk
[12:19] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: every once in a while it checks to make sure the filesystems are good and nothing is corrupted
[12:20] <ecormier> Intune: it sounds like a router setup problem.
[12:20] <bleech> as a result of say, a power outage
[12:20] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[12:20] <bleech> does anyone know how i can view an activex page?
[12:20] <sflash> I lost my sudoers ability, i want to edit my /etc/sudoers . How can i do this? I popped iin the live cd but it still gives me access deinied
[12:20] <Sp4rKy_> does anyone know if network could be used with wine ?
[12:20] <Jowi> bleech: you need windows most likely
[12:21] <Sp4rKy_> sflash, try with root acout
[12:21] <BrianHH> Have I reached the point yet where a reformat/reinstall is necessary to solve this??
[12:21] <Sp4rKy_> acount *
[12:21] <Intune> yes eth0 is default gateway
[12:21] <sflash> i cant login as root
[12:21] <sflash> it says access denied
[12:21] <Intune> but ubuntu isn't actually related to the router
[12:21] <bleech> Jowi: nooo thats impossible
[12:21] <Jowi> ubotu: tell sflash about root
[12:21] <Intune> it goes over vmware, it should have access to everything the host system has access to
[12:21] <BrianHH> bleech:  I think firefox has a few extensions that let you view activex pages...
[12:21] <ecormier> ubuntu's in vmware on a computer with wireless right?
[12:21] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, and what will the os do if it find some corrupted files?
[12:22] <tubbie> does Ubuntu has any tool to setup internet sharing?
[12:22] <Jowi> tubbie: yes. install firestarter
[12:22] <Jowi> !firestarter
[12:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[12:22] <muszek> hi.  latest kernel/fglrx upgrade messed my ati drivers... is there anything I can do?
[12:22] <muszek> I'm using Dapper
[12:22] <Intune> correct
[12:22] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: try to fix them
[12:22] <ecormier> <muszek: me too the same thing
[12:23] <invitado> soy juan carlos
[12:23] <muszek> ecormier: did you manage to solve the problem?
[12:23] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: how long did it take to run the check?
[12:23] <ecormier> Intune: start playing with the vmware network settings
[12:23] <invitado> alguna sugerencia de mi persona
[12:23] <Intune> it doesn't have much
[12:23] <ecormier> muszek: nope...I've been asking for a few minutes
[12:23] <tubbie> I just installed gnome-pim,, but I dunno how to start the addressbook :\
[12:23] <Intune> it allows me so select different network methods. selecting everything but NAT makes ubuntu fail connecting at boot time
[12:24] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, its not the first time, so the same as earlier - would be the most proper ansewer... not more than 4 min. approx
[12:24] <ecormier> Intune: I'm not that familiar with vmware....but it seems to be the problem....your running vmware in a windows host with network working??
[12:24] <Jowi> tubbie: gnomecard
[12:24] <Irelandshope> I am having a problem with Dapper  My CPU sitting at 50-70 even when idle. I am on Kernal 2.6.15-23-686 but if I boot into my previous Kernal from Breezy <IP_ADDRESS>-686 the CPU usage is only 6% at idle. Is anone else having this problem or even hear of it.
[12:24] <BrianHH> If I find every file that references jre, and destroy it, will that keep Ubuntu from thinking it needs to find a jre archive on my machine?
[12:25] <spacey> Irelandshope: go to terminal and type `top`
[12:25] <spacey> and see what hogs the cpu
[12:25] <muszek> Irelandshope: run "top" to at least see what's hogging your CPU
[12:25] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: do you know which partition it was checking by any chance?  e.g. the root partition? the boot partition?  if you don't know what i'm talking about then don't worry
[12:25] <lukaswayne9> Irelandshope: i would file a bug in launchpad
[12:26] <Intune> yes. and it worked at first.
[12:26] <Intune> i only rebooted, and it stopped working
[12:26] <ecormier> <lukaswayne9: that might be premature until you find it's not something like beagle
[12:26] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:26] <Jowi> Irelandshope: 0.3 % sounds more resonable. even 6% is alot for an idle 1ghz pc
[12:26] <Fire-NR> trying to install a ati card
[12:26] <lukaswayne9> is gnome-system-monitor just a frontend for top?
[12:27] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, hehehe... kk... then i guess i shall not worry ;)
[12:27] <ecormier> <Intune: sorry I think I've exausted my knowledge...although I'm only a newb...keep asking
[12:27] <warpzone> alright, rebooting to see if it worked.
[12:27] <Intune> hehe, ok thanks!
[12:28] <sflash> so i entered a live cd and am in terminal. I go to edit hda1/etc/sudoers and i cant. still says read only, how can i change this?
[12:28] <tubbie> any one knows why the window is so ugly? http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8ya.png
[12:28] <BrianHH> Okay, I've taken out all the jre archives and directories I've downloaded.  Time to see if I've eradicated the plague.
[12:28] <tubbie> it is gnome calendar
[12:28] <Intune> bye :)
[12:28] <BrianHH> brb
[12:28] <Irelandshope> spacey: Strange in the terminal it is only reporting about 10% overall. I have both the terminal open and System monitor in system monitor Xorg is reporting around 40-50% but in the terminal Xorg is reporting around 6%.
[12:29] <sflash> problem is my hard drive is considered a readonly
[12:29] <sflash> how can i change this?
[12:29] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: the application in the screenshot is using gtk1, a deprecicated library.  Most applications written for ubuntu use gtk2, which look nice and have antialiased fonts.
[12:29] <felipe__> how can I download public key from a key server?
[12:29] <LasseL> sflash, is it NTFS?
[12:30] <sflash> im not sure, how could i find out?
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> hola
[12:30] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, any workaround to "fix" it?
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> i need you hrlp
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> help
[12:30] <LasseL> sflash, System > Administration > Disks
[12:30] <gnomefreak> sflash: is it a windows drive your trying to mount?
[12:30] <sflash> LasseL: Or actually, just that file is locked read only
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> hi
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, that is a lot different
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, which file is it?
[12:31] <SuPrEm0> i want up server streming
[12:31] <SuPrEm0> with what i do?
[12:31] <BrianHH> Nope, that didn't work, either. :(
[12:31] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: You have three choices really.  a)  Use a different application.  Perhaps evolution or mozilla-calander will suit your purposes?  b)  Port of ask the developers to port the application to gtk2.  c)  live with it
[12:31] <sflash> gnomefreak: my ubuntu user lost a group that i was apart of, now i need to put him back so i can have sudo rights. the /etc/sudoers file
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, if you own it you should be able to right-click it in nautilus and change the permissions
[12:32] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: there aren't too many gtk1 applications still around that are used.  I can only think of a few.. XMMS (which has a gtk2 port), Gtkcash (which is almost done being ported to GTK2), and that's pretty much it
[12:32] <sflash> LasseL: it wont let me change permissions
[12:32] <lukaswayne9> gtkcash->gnucash*
[12:32] <sflash> LasseL: im using Konqueror though
[12:33] <LasseL> sflash, you cant change that file unless you are root or have sudo access
[12:33] <spacey> Irelandshope: i have no idea, maybe file support ticket at launchpad or try mailing list
[12:33] <tubbie> I'll try mozilla-calandar first
[12:33] <Kr0ntab> sup f0olks
[12:33] <load> can someone answer a pbuilder question?
[12:33] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: i would suggest evolution first, as it's already installed on your system :)
[12:33] <Kr0ntab> folks, even
[12:33] <BrianHH> Well, I'm going to give up on solving this the subtle way, I guess.  Next weekend I'll do a complete reformat and reinstall.  If I had just done that in the beginning, I'd be up and running again by now.
[12:33] <warpzone> guard, welllll, not bad except that everything is totally whited-out. canbarely read the screen. any suggestions?
[12:34] <sflash> LasseL: my problem is i cant login as root on my ubuntu machine, i have the password it just wont let me. and the only other user i had lost the admin group, does this mean im screwed :)?
[12:34] <ecormier> sflash: sudo passwd root
[12:34] <sflash> i wish i could roll back my computer to 2 days ago
[12:34] <LasseL> sflash, get a live cd
[12:34] <PORDO> ecormier if that user isn't in sudo group, how does that help?
[12:34] <ecormier> ohhh...sorry
[12:35] <PORDO> why not just boot in single mode?  isn't that like root?
[12:35] <LasseL> sflash, I always keep a knoppix disk around for times like that
[12:35] <sflash> LasseL: im on a live cd right now., knoppix
[12:35] <PORDO> i mean, if you have physical access to a machine, there should be no problems.
[12:35] <sflash> the file is still locked
[12:35] <BrianHH> sudo only works if your root password works, unfortunately.
[12:35] <||arifaX> POPDO: ditto
[12:35] <george_> is anybody familiar with wine?
[12:35] <LasseL> sflash, well, you should be able to become root from knoppix
[12:35] <sflash> I think to login as root, you have to change a preference
[12:35] <sflash> ok, how do you do that?
[12:36] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, evolution is not so bad :). it got everything integrated. Hope it integrate well with gnome
[12:36] <tubbie> :)
[12:36] <LasseL> sflash, google
[12:36] <sflash> LasseL: I use sudo vi /etc/sudoers and it says its a readonly file
[12:36] <amphi> sflash: do sudo visudo
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: yes, it integrates pretty well with gnome.  If you click on the time and date button in the panel, your evolution appointments will be shown :)
[12:37] <gui> is there an exact release date for dapper? the future of my PC depends on it :D
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> gui June 1st
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> gui: unofficially
[12:38] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, thanks :) I like Ubuntu so much
[12:38] <tubbie> :=)
[12:38] <gui> lukaswayne9, yeah.. I saw that date these days.. but I need an official
[12:38] <LasseL> sflash, sudo visudo -f /mnt/yourhd/etc/sudoers
[12:38] <Jaak> can i make a command to make 3ddesktop go to next workspace?
[12:38] <crimsun> gui: / lukaswayne9: that /is/ the official date.
[12:38] <gui> crimsun: oh so it's perfect, thanks
[12:38] <LasseL> Jaak, ctrl+alt+arrows
[12:38] <lukaswayne9> crimsun: oh, nifty :)
[12:39] <tubbie> does dapper wome with xgl by default?
[12:39] <tubbie> come*
[12:39] <Jaak> yes, but i want to do that using 3ddesktop
[12:39] <sflash> LasseL: it says visudo: /mnt/hda1/etc/sudoers: Read-only file system
[12:39] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: No, but it can be easily installed
[12:39] <AlinuxOS> hello
[12:40] <Tentation> Hi guys!
[12:40] <GustavoBio> hi
[12:40] <trevor> lukaswayne9, where do i start if i want to install xgl?
[12:40] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: in the next release after dapper (edgy), xgl is going to be further intergrated with ubuntu
[12:40] <sflash> LasseL: do you think the way it mounted caused this? should i mount it a different way?
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> does KDE use .fonts.config for its font/personalized configuration ?
[12:40] <GaiaX11> I have tried to connect to another machine through ssh, but without any success. Do i have to change anything in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. All the lines are commented.
[12:40] <Red-Sox> Hi, whenever I try to do the ubuntu install on my machine, it says 'Loading Partitioner' and then goes to a blank, blue screen and nothing happens
[12:40] <tubbie> I know. I already have xgl running :)
[12:40] <lukaswayne9> trevor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/compiz
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> for GNOME I've my own .fonts.config
[12:40] <GustavoBio> trevor, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[12:40] <trevor> lukaswayne9, thanks
[12:40] <tubbie> it was so easy to install. that's why iasked if it is included in dappe
[12:40] <LasseL> sflash, I am not a knoppix wizard, try remounting it, perhaps knoppix just mounts disks readonly by default
[12:41] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: nope, but in edgy it's going to be pushed to be included by default, along with a lot of other experiamental technologies
[12:41] <Tentation> I am currently try ubuntu dapper drake, but i have a problem with my scanner, in ubuntu hoary to setup it i edited this file of sane: /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usemap but...in dapper drake i can not find it! anybody can help me?!
[12:42] <LasseL> xgl/compiz is fun, but it still has a beta feel about it
[12:42] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:42] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[12:42] <Red-Sox> Happened to anyone else?
[12:42] <george_> can anybody tell me how to install programs to use with wine?
[12:43] <ssdg>  /quit
[12:43] <LasseL> george_, just download them and run wine setup.exe -- if you are very lucky it will work
[12:44] <george_> ok thanx Lassel
[12:44] <km0ti0n> The forums are really slow today.
[12:45] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\setup.exe": Module not found , when running setup.... what have i note done yet? trying to get wine to wirk with WoW
[12:46] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, I think you may be pushing your luck there
[12:46] <sflash> LasseL: I cant unmount and remount
[12:46] <Ubuntunoob> hm?
[12:46] <sflash> LasseL:says device is busy
[12:46] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, u mean i should give up?
[12:46] <LasseL> sflash, beats me
[12:47] <sudomania4> how do i make ctrl-alt-delete open gnome-system-monitor?
[12:47] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, I am by no means an expert on that, it may work: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine
[12:47] <sflash> LasseL: how can i change that file from readonly?
[12:48] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, from what I have read cedega is better for games: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3518
[12:48] <runa> hey :) what was the name of that neat TCL/TK app to install MSIE and all the libs in wine?
[12:48] <LasseL> sflash, by mounting the filesystem as readable
[12:48] <sudomania4> bbl
[12:49] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, yeah... but i have a fetisch... wanna do it the hard way %D
[12:50] <ShastaMaroon> Is it possible to install ubuntu over FTP?  I think my DVD drive is screwed up.
[12:50] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, in that case go to #gentoo land
[12:50] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, thx
[12:50] <sflash> LasseL: I just noticed that the file system isnt like that, just the file /etc/sudoers
[12:51] <sflash> LasseL: How can i change that file?
[12:51] <LasseL> sflash, sudo visudo -f /mnt/yourhd/etc/sudoers
[12:51] <LasseL> sflash, it is supposed to be readonly, you don't want to change that
[12:52] <zim_> hi all What does LTS stand for ??? Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:52] <Antipodean> hey all
[12:52] <mitchman> Long Term Support
[12:52] <GaiaX11> I have tried to connect to another machine through ssh, but without any success. Do i have to change anything in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. All the lines are commented.
[12:52] <Red-Sox> Hmm...does the install work well with ATI?
[12:52] <zim_> ty
[12:52] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: what's the response when you try?
[12:52] <Antipodean> sorry, cld anybody here help me with what command lind i'd have 2 use in the terminal to install a whole folder of deb files?
[12:53] <HymnToLife> Red-Sox> ATIs work very well unless you want 3D acceleration
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife: So that's not the problem...
[12:53] <zim_> when is dapper going to be uut
[12:53] <zim_> out
[12:53] <crimsun> 1 june
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife: Mind if I use your auto complete suffix?
[12:53] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, It hangs
[12:53] <zim_> got help the servers
[12:53] <amphi> HymnToLife: 3d accel works fine here on my ati, with xorg drivers
[12:53] <sflash> LasseL: basically i need to get my username into the admin group and i cant sudo or login as root
[12:53] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, and don't ask the password
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife> like this?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> amphi> depends which ATI I guess
[12:54] <LasseL> sflash, sudo vi /dev/hda1/etc/group
[12:54] <Antipodean> sorry, cld anybody here help me with what command lind i'd have 2 use in the terminal to install a whole folder of deb files?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> Red-Sox> no problem
[12:54] <mitchman> antipodean:  are you on dapper?
[12:54] <green_earz> GaiaX11: is the port 22 open on the other machine for ssh ?
[12:54] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife> Thanks for the idea :)
[12:54] <Red-Sox> ibbl
[12:54] <Antipodean> breezy
[12:54] <zim_> smoking routers on 1 june then
[12:54] <amphi> HymnToLife: probably - mine is very trailing edge ;)
[12:54] <sflash> LasseL: are my users groups in there?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> mine is a crappy Mobility Radeon 9100 on a lappy
[12:54] <LasseL> sflash, aye
[12:54] <Antipodean> mitchman: breezy
[12:55] <amphi> HymnToLife: 7500 here ;)
[12:55] <GaiaX11>  /etc/ssh/sshd_config - do i have to config this files in the other machine?
[12:55] <sergiol> hello
[12:55] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: the remote machine could be slow or packets might be being dropped. if you nc it on pt 22 do you see the ssh server string?
[12:55] <Drasla> hey, does anyone know how I would restart vsftpd?
[12:55] <mitchman> antipodean:   sudo apt-get install <packages>
[12:55] <ompaul> HymnToLife, another word for the automatic replacement script
[12:55] <sergiol> how can i remove the packages with rc label on dpkg -l listing?
[12:56] <amphi> HymnToLife: that card's 3d accel should be well supported by xorg
[12:56] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, how do i see that?
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: so theres no command that I can use to install folder containing 200 odd mb worth in one go?
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: just 1 by b1?
[12:56] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: sshd doesn't run by default.  This machine is within reach?
[12:56] <GaiaX11> NigelS_,  /etc/ssh/sshd_config - do i have to config this files in the other machine?
[12:56] <mitchman> I think thats right
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: just 1 by 1?
[12:56] <Antipodean> damn
[12:56] <HymnToLife> amphi> I don't carz bout 3D anyway, but I tried fglrx a wile back and it didn't work
[12:56] <sergiol> i wanna remove the remaining waste of older version of apache
[12:57] <Antipodean> argh
[12:57] <panurge77> exit
[12:57] <mitchman> at least thats how to install over the internet
[12:57] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, all the lines of this file are commented
[12:57] <lukeng> got a problem with ntp-server, dont know how to solve, cant find anything on google
[12:57] <lukeng> this is the problem http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1259/
[12:57] <amphi> HymnToLife: fglrx won't work, I don't think - I only bothered to set up 3d for celestia and stellarium
[12:57] <lukeng> please help!
[12:57] <mitchman> I'm not quite shure how to install local debs
[12:57] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, and this one /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:58] <HymnToLife> !tell mitchman about dpkg
[12:58] <lukeng> result of  dapper-drake update today
[12:58] <HymnToLife> damn, I 'm pretty sure I added that one...
[12:58] <HymnToLife> !tell mitchman about deb
[12:58] <Sub> anyone know a way to STOP a package automatically updating?
[12:58] <Antipodean> !tell Antipodean about dpkg
[12:58] <Sub> i use gimpshop, which uses an older version of gimp, and ubuntu keeps trying to update it.
[12:58] <HymnToLife> sub > check "Lock vrsion" in Synaptic
[12:58] <sergiol> $ dpkg -l '*apache*'|grep -v apache2
[12:58] <sergiol> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[12:58] <sergiol> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[12:58] <sergiol> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:58] <sergiol> ||/ Name                      Version         Description
[12:58] <sergiol> +++-[12:59] <Sub> ahh, thanks :D
[12:59] <sergiol> un  apache                    <none>          (no description available)
[12:59] <sergiol> rc  apache-common             1.3.33-8ubuntu1 support files for all Apache webservers
[12:59] <sergiol> un  apache-dev                <none>          (no description available)
[12:59] <Sub> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[12:59] <HymnToLife> !tell sergiol about pastebin
[01:00] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you might want to change the sshd settings if you want it to run on a diff port, but the default should be ok, is the ssh server actually running on that machine though?
[01:00] <Poker> how can i remove debsig-verify
[01:00] <Poker> ?
[01:01] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, i'd like to have a look in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config of anyone that ssh is working
[01:01] <Verithrax> I have the artwiz fonts installed, but for some reason they don't show up in xfontsel.
[01:01] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, Yah. But all the lines are commented
[01:02] <sergiol> I WANNA SPEAK
[01:02] <GaiaX11> Someone told me that in debian all the lines are uncommented.
[01:02] <ompaul> sergiol that was not a ban but a removal of voice for spamming the channel -  use pastebin
[01:02] <amphi> sergiol: don't shout
[01:02] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, Someone told me that in debian all the lines are uncommented. And it works
[01:02] <PORDO> ANYONE here live in portland?
[01:02] <sergiol> i want to remove the ackages with rc in dpkg -l listing
[01:03] <sergiol> packages
[01:03] <sergiol> rc apache-common 1.3.33-8ubuntu1 support files for all Apache webservers
[01:03] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you haven't answered the question yet! is the sshd running on the machine you're trying to access?
[01:03] <Seveas> sergiol: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[01:03] <ompaul> sergiol, you use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for lost of data
[01:03] <sergiol> i wanna get rid of remaining trash of older version of  apache
[01:03] <GaiaX11> I even do not know if it is running in my machine
[01:03] <ompaul> sergiol, lots of data
[01:04] <sflash> LasseL: sorry took a while, so i am in my groups file
[01:04] <GaiaX11> How do i know that
[01:04] <GaiaX11> The other machine is outside my intranet
[01:05] <sflash> LasseL: i can add it there after admin:x:106
[01:05] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, I have to access it through: ssh username@ipnumber
[01:05] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you don't need the server to be running on your machine to access another with ssh, only if you want someone else to connect to you
[01:06] <sflash> LasseL: i can add it there after admin:x:106:siavash,root is the convention?
[01:06] <LasseL> sflash, no need to put root in
[01:06] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, right!
[01:06] <Fire-NR> i'm trying to install ati drivers, following the wiki binarydrivers howto
[01:06] <Fire-NR> it says do. sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[01:06] <sergiol> thanks very much
[01:06] <concept10> what package do I remove to remove some of the older kernels?  is it the linux-image packages?
[01:06] <Fire-NR> and i get couldn't find package module-assistant
[01:07] <Fire-NR> any ideas?
[01:07] <LasseL> sflash, and check the /etc/passwd file while you are at it, see that everything is alright
[01:07] <GaiaX11> NigelS, If my machine has the server, how do i know that sshd is running then?
[01:07] <NigelS> GaiaX11: ps aux | grep sshd
[01:07] <sflash> LasseL: i think everything else is ok, i just lost my group admin which gave me sudo priviliges
[01:07] <tubbie> !grub
[01:07] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:08] <uboat> try the ps command.
[01:08] <sflash> LasseL: i also want to be able to login as root, do you know how to change that or if its a good idea for security issues?
[01:08] <hyphenated> sflash: fix the group admin you lost by booting in 'rescue mode'
[01:09] <LasseL> sflash, sudo is all you need, really, sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:09] <uboat> boot in safe mode and use th passwd command to set the root password.
[01:09] <Maytag> Hey everyone
[01:09] <LasseL> sflash, or sudo passwd
[01:09] <GaiaX11> NigelS, thanks it is running here
[01:09] <GaiaX11> NigelS, I will ask my friend about that
[01:10] <Maytag> I think my harddrive died, so I dl'd the Live cd.  Boots up great, only problem is I can't get online.
[01:10] <NigelS> you can see if something is listening on port 22, the default ssh port GaiaX11 using nmap
[01:10] <jaime> hello
[01:10] <NigelS> GaiaX11: or for example install "nc" and type "nc <ip> 22" and see if an ssh server talks to you
[01:10] <Maytag> I got online once last night, now it no longer connects.
[01:11] <Maytag> Can anyone help?
[01:11] <jaime> i need help putting the audio on my computer
[01:11] <sflash> LasseL: thanks hopefully i can be back to normal, it was a nightmare for a little while
[01:12] <NigelS> GaiaX11: also ssh -v puts ssh in verbose mode
[01:12] <GaiaX11> NigelS, If all the /etc/ssh/ssh_config  lines are commented, does it not block my access to the other PC?
[01:12] <sergiol> oops
[01:12] <uscg_corey> !tell uscg_corey about RestrictedFormats
[01:12] <george_> are there any programs equivalent to clonedvd for linux?
[01:12] <LasseL> sflash, a couple of months ago I edited the userid's in the passwd file - same headache
[01:12] <sergiol> i removed also php
[01:13] <jaime> can anyone help me
[01:13] <ompaul> !helpme
[01:13] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:14] <NigelS> GaiaX11: I don't think so, it will use defaults, read the ssh_config man page for config stuff.  By default it will work, if something has changed do a dpkg-reconfigure
[01:14] <GaiaX11> NigelS, ok!
[01:14] <jaime> i need to configure my audio i dont know how to do it becuase i am new to this thing
[01:14] <george_> does anybody know of any programs like clonedvd for linux?
[01:15] <luigi> i need help, my molliza won't open
[01:16] <luigi> can someone help me please
[01:17] <KyoLptp`> how do I enable firefox to print on an hp officejet v40?
[01:17] <luigi> i need help, my molliza won't open
[01:17] <george_> anybody know of dvd copy programs for linux
[01:17] <george_> ?
[01:17] <Maytag> Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:17] <T-CAN> everytime i try to mount a FAT32 partition (hdb1), i get "mount: only root can do that" message
[01:17] <P3L|C4N0> george_, Gnome Baker, K3b, etc
[01:18] <george_> thanx
[01:18] <wubrgamer> i just found a soundcard for my pentium 2 testbed, and i would like someone to tell me how to install it in ubuntu, it's a soundblaster somethign or other
[01:18] <thingfish> misfit_toy: you hanging out here?
[01:18] <T-CAN> anyone?
[01:19] <ecormier> <T-CAN: what command are you using
[01:19] <drumline_> wubrgamer: have you installed the card into the computer?
[01:19] <T-CAN> mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb1 media/windows
[01:19] <green_earz> george_: dvdbackup to copy dvd  and to rip the vob files : vobcopy and for dvd authoring  : dvdauthor
[01:20] <ecormier> put a "sudo" in front of it
[01:20] <ecormier> sudo  mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb1 media/windows
[01:20] <T-CAN> k, ill give it a shot
[01:20] <luigi> i need help, my molliza opens then closes
[01:20] <T-CAN> thanks
[01:20] <wubrgamer> now i have
[01:20] <wubrgamer> actually.......
[01:20] <wubrgamer> it just worked
[01:20] <wubrgamer> wow
[01:20] <kbrooks> T-CAN:
[01:20] <wubrgamer> i thougth i'd need some help
[01:20] <wubrgamer> but it just works
[01:20] <drumline_> wubrgamer: was gonna say...  "put it in first... .then we'll talk. "   :)
[01:20] <kbrooks> !tell T-CAN about sudo
[01:21] <TSWoodV> wubrgamer: This ain't Windows.  Stuff mostly either works or it doesn't here.
[01:21] <Valehru> hey guys...I installed cvs via apt-get install cvs
[01:21] <Valehru> trying to connect to the wine cvs server
[01:21] <Valehru> but when it asks for the cvs password: "cvs" i get the following error: cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/jonathan/.cvspass for reading: Permission denied
[01:22] <Valehru> which is on my local machine...any ideas?
[01:22] <TSWoodV> wubrgamer: In a bit more technical sense, either the kernel has drivers for the hardware, or there's a slim chance that there's a third-party driver that you can, with varying degrees of success and various amounts of work, get to do the job.
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> orly
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> ok
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> so I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu box
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> 2.6.12-10-386
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> so I downloaded the kernel source
[01:23] <Maytag>  Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> as /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> when I make menuconfig
[01:23] <Valehru> cvs [login aborted] : could not open /home/jonathan/.cvspass for writing: Permission denied
[01:23] <Valehru> which is on the local machine
[01:23] <Jimmer> question, I've got a harddrive with ubuntu on it, and a slave with windows on it, how do I configure grub so that I can boot windows?
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> I get /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:34:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol KOBJECT_UEVENT
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Valehru: use sudo
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> lots of those
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> any ideas?
[01:24] <TSWoodV> {V0rtexia}: From where did you get the source?  www.kernel.org, or via apt-get?
[01:24] <KyoLptp`> Nobody knows how to get a printer working?
[01:24] <Valehru> gnomefreak, ok that error has gone...but it just quits straight to bash once the password us entered
[01:25] <{V0rtexia}> TSWoodV: kernel.org yes
[01:25] <ShastaMaroon> KyoLptp` depends on the printer.
[01:25] <amphi> KyoLptp`: not even esr ;)
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Valehru: is it the right password?
[01:25] <KyoLptp`> HP Officejet v40
[01:25] <Valehru> gnomefreak, well that's the one that appears on the winehq website
[01:25] <KyoLptp`> I click print on a website, nothing happens - this is using Firefox
[01:26] <Valehru> gnomefreak, http://www.winehq.com/site/cvs
[01:26] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: have you set up the printer yet?
[01:26] <ShastaMaroon> KyoLptp` you need the .ppd from: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_V40
[01:26] <KyoLptp`> That's what I'm trying to find out how to do, I think
[01:26] <Valehru> is there a guide for wine and ubuntu breezy?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Valehru: sudo uses your user password
[01:26] <Jimmer> anyone know how to get my other drive to boot?
[01:26] <NthDegree> gnomefreak: can you tell me how to sort out my sudoers file?
[01:26] <ecormier> go to the system menu then admin-printing
[01:27] <lewix> where do you guys find your backgrounds ?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Valehru about wine
[01:27] <ShastaMaroon> listen to ecormier, his way is probably easier...
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Valehru: simple instructions are in you rpm
[01:27] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: then go printer - add printer
[01:27] <mpee> is anyone else seeing evolution fail to load spam plugins? (spamassain/bogofilter) I can't find a bug on it
[01:27] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: what did you do to it?
[01:27] <KyoLptp`> ecormier, then where is "printer?"
[01:28] <ecormier> in the menu of the new window that opens
[01:28] <NthDegree> gnomefreak, i set up in expert mode and need to add my user (called user) to it so I can use sudo
[01:28] <KyoLptp`> that opens when?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NthDegree about sudo
[01:28] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: go "system - admin - printing"
[01:28] <Maytag>  Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:28] <disinterested_pe> kyolptp when u click on printer
[01:29] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: there should be a command or 2 on that wiki (cant remember them off hand
[01:29] <Jimmer> question, I've got a harddrive with ubuntu on it, and a slave with windows on it, how do I configure grub so that I can boot windows?
[01:29] <Valehru> gnomefreak, when adding the repo for breezy I get the following error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[01:29] <Fire-NR> FFS :@ this is a bloody nigtmare to get ati drivers installed :|
[01:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Valehru -about easysource
[01:30] <Jowi> Jimmer add something like this: title           Windows [new line]  root            (hd1,0) [new line]  makeactive [new line]  chainloader     +1
[01:30] <gnomefreak> Valehru: theres a wine repo there was working a few weeks ago
[01:30] <Jimmer> k, thanks
[01:31] <Fire-NR> can't get module_assitant installed :|
[01:31] <Fire-NR> says packge not found :|
[01:31] <GaiaX11> NigelS, thanks for the infos!
[01:31] <ecormier> module-assistant
[01:31] <HotDrive> good day all
[01:31] <Fire-NR> thats what i meant
[01:31] <GaiaX11> I will ty to solve the problem with them
[01:31] <ecormier> so sudo apt-get install module-assistant doesn't work?
[01:31] <HotDrive> any one knows how to put a webcam to work?
[01:32] <Jowi> HotDrive: something i found earlier: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[01:32] <Cashel> howdies... Anyone know what package lndir would be in?
[01:32] <green_earz> Maytag: if you can download the ubuntu cd by bittorent, two mains reason, its better on bandwithd and the image is check on completion
[01:33] <HotDrive> thanks Jowi, gonna check it out...
[01:33] <Fire-NR> packge module-assistant is not avialbe, but is referred to by anothe rpackage. this may mean that the pakage is msising, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source is what i get now
[01:33] <Jowi> HotDrive: also have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:33] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: try "sudo apt-get update" first
[01:33] <andrew_> hello all
[01:33] <megatron> hello all
[01:33] <HotDrive> one thing... is it for 5.10 or Dapper? OR BOTH?
[01:33] <T-CAN> i just tried to run rythmbox and it said "Failed to create the player: Couldn't initialize scheduler: Did you run gst-register?"
[01:34] <andrew_> I need some help with getting java working
[01:34] <Fire-NR> did that, same error :|
[01:34] <andrew_> there is a problem with my plugins
[01:34] <Jowi> HotDrive: should be the same for both
[01:34] <NigelS> GaiaX11: that's alright, hope you track the problem down
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> uh
[01:34] <ecormier> Fire-NR: there must be something wrong with your repositories
[01:34] <HotDrive> thanks
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> the printer is just messing around now
[01:34] <Fire-NR> :|
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> making sounds and moving
[01:34] <T-CAN> anyone?
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> but not actually... printing...
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> -_-;
[01:34] <megatron> does anyone know how to link a folder from the filesystem to desktop? dumb question!!!
 Fire-NR: there must be something wrong with your repositories ----------- so what can i do now?
[01:35] <ecormier> megatron: click and drag while holding the alt key gives you option "link"
[01:35] <Fire-NR> might just install freebsd on it... know how that works :s
[01:36] <Fire-NR> been trying all day to install this ati driver :( and not having much luck
[01:36] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:36] <andrew_> when I run fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin I get the error No matching plugin was found
[01:36] <Fire-NR> thanks :) will go try that
[01:36] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: you can probably solve your ati problem there too
[01:37] <megatron> well i tired that right, the problem is the folder that im trying to link on my desktop is my e drive which is NTFS... and if do the click and drag it copies the whole folder which i dont want
[01:37] <ecormier> click and drag while pressing the "alt" key
[01:37] <{V0rtexia}> hello, I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
 /boot/conf
[01:37] <mikedep333> !fixboot
[01:37] <ubotu> mikedep333: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:37] <megatron> magic it worked thanks ecormier
[01:38] <ecormier> np
[01:38] <SurfnKid> ok my ntfs partition is mounting automatically and i dont like that
[01:38] <misfit_toy> thingfish, hello my friend
[01:38] <mikedep333> !fixmbr
[01:38] <ubotu> - To put MS-Windows back on a disk that previously had Linux, boot from the Windows disk, go into the recovery console, and type fixmbr.  Another alternative is to type fdisk/mbr
[01:38] <SurfnKid> how can i get to fstab?
[01:38] <SurfnKid> !fstab
[01:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[01:38] <Jowi> mikedep333:  !grub is probably what you're looking for
[01:38] <mikedep333> !grub
[01:38] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:38] <thingfish> misfit_toy: hey bud
[01:38] <mikedep333> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is what I wanted, thanks
[01:38] <thingfish> misfit_toy: what chou up to these days?
[01:38] <Staos> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[01:38] <Jowi> !ops
[01:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:39] <Antipodean> hey folks, do you know if theres any command I can use instead of "sudo dpkg -i FILEWHATEVER.deb" in order to mass install a great big bunch of local debs?
[01:39] <Fire-NR> ecormier thats what i'm looking at as to how to get the arti driver install
[01:39] <{V0rtexia}> lawl
[01:39] <green_earz> andrew_: check the permisions on jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin   i think it needs to be exeuteable
[01:39] <Seveas> sigh
[01:39] <andrew_> it is
[01:39] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: so whats wrong with the ati install
[01:39] <thingfish> oh hmmm....I recognize that nalioth name from some other channel...
[01:39] <Jowi> thanks Seveas
[01:39] <Antipodean> hey folks, do you know if theres any command I can use instead of "sudo dpkg -i FILEWHATEVER.deb" in order to mass install a great big bunch of local debs?
[01:39] <Sub> Antipodean, use a *.deb to install
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> Antipodean: dpkg -i *.deb?
[01:40] <Antipodean> Sub: thanks mate
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> ack, beaten :(
[01:40] <Fire-NR> the ati driver install fails :|
[01:40] <Sub> like sudo dpkg -i *.deb should do it
[01:40] <Fire-NR> do sudo ./filename.run
[01:40] <thingfish> do madonna videos play good in ubuntu?
[01:40] <ecormier> Antipodean: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:40] <Sub> XD RandolphCarter
[01:40] <SurfnKid> !partitions
[01:40] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[01:40] <bleech> whats a good cd burning program for gnome?  k3b is supposed to be for kde isnt it?
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> bleech: gnomebaker
[01:40] <Sub> bleech, yes but it works fine in gnome
[01:40] <ShastaMaroon> bleech built it on the kde libraries but it'll work
[01:40] <jldugger> k3b installs on regular ubuntu, and i think its worth the extra space
[01:40] <gnomefreak> bleech: it runs on any desktop
[01:41] <Antipodean> thanks all for ur input ;)
[01:41] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: I use the ubuntu fglrx driver...much less hassle
[01:41] <green_earz> andrew_:      did you install >  java-package
[01:41] <ShastaMaroon> k3b is nice because it works and it's easy.
[01:41] <thingfish> bleech: look for gnomebaker or maybe graveman
[01:41] <Fire-NR> that didn't work either ecormier :| nothing seems to work
[01:41] <bleech> ok
[01:41] <RandolphCarter> whoever's trying to install the ATI driver, you can have it create Ubuntu 6.06 packages for you
[01:41] <bleech> thanks guys
[01:41] <andrew_> yes because I can use well I couldn't apt-get it and so I downloaded it off the debian site and installed it directly
[01:41] <megatron> is their a way to delete all of the panels so that i can have clear desktop with only icons...
[01:41] <ecormier> Fire-NR: what ati card do you have
[01:41] <RandolphCarter> you'll need the kernel-source-2.6.15 package installed first though
[01:41] <Fire-NR> x1800
[01:41] <andrew_> but when I apt-get it, it's the new's one
[01:41] <thingfish> megatron: apt-get install fluxbox
[01:41] <jldugger> if k3b didnt rely on linux specific libraries to burn CDs, I think it'd probably kill nero etc off in a hurry
[01:41] <thingfish> hehe
[01:42] <ecormier> <megatron: right click the panel - properties - autohide
[01:42] <gambit> anybody got a install link for abuntu skype amd64
[01:42] <nalioth> gambit: it won't work on amd64
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter: were you talking to me ?
[01:42] <ecormier> Fire-NR: sorry I'm not familiar with that card maybe google "x1800 ubuntu"
[01:42] <nalioth> gambit: skype is closed source and does not have an amd64 version
[01:42] <gambit> ty nalioth
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> oph
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> no
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> ;/
[01:42] <RandolphCarter> {V0rtexia}: I think Fire-NR :P
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> menuconfig still runs
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> but.....
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> erk, you're building 2.6.16 on Dapper?
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> uh ya
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> :>
[01:43] <Cashel> gambit: you could try running it in a 32bit chroot environment...
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> good luck with that ;) try installing the 'build-essential' and 'kernel-package' packages first
[01:43] <ecormier> RandolphCarter: this is breezy right??
[01:43] <Masqy> which kernel version will be included in dapper?
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> ecormier: yeah
[01:44] <ecormier> ok
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> uh
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> actually
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter it's breezy
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> badger
[01:44] <megatron> how do i make fluxbox my default loader?
[01:45] <linchris> why cant I shut down from the quit.. menu?
[01:45] <megatron> instead of using gnome
[01:45] <Fire-NR> i'm following what it says on the ubuntu site but still can't seem to get it working :|
[01:45] <RandolphCarter> {V0rtexia}: try running 'sudo aptitude install build-essential kernel-package gcc libstdc++5' before you try to menuconfig
[01:45] <green_earz> andrew_:      http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142  you are installing  jdk  have a look at the howto which uses the jre java package
[01:45] <Thlayli_> megatron: create a file called .xinitrc in your home directory
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatron: call the command "echo startfluxbox >> .xinitrc"
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatron: actually the latter should be enough
[01:46] <andrew_> I did that but I get No matching plugin was found
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatrin: just echo it
[01:46] <Masqy> I've made a regular ubuntu installation, however, when I boot, I don't want the X and the GDM enviorment to load, I want to start them manually afterwards if I feel like it.. what's the best/painless way?
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> ohh, sorry {V0rtexia}, I just realised what's up, it's trying to autoload your current config
[01:47] <gambit> cashel: could i just burn the regular abuntu iso instead of amd64 and skype work?
[01:47] <Thlayli_> megatron: and disable gdm or what. i think you can also configure gdm to recognize fluxbox as a session
[01:47] <ecormier> Fire-NR: it sucks when something does that to you, but it's usually something silly when you figure it out
[01:47] <andrew_> brb
[01:47] <RandolphCarter> try copying an applicable /boot/config* to .config in the kernel source directory and run 'make oldconfig' before trying to menuconfig
[01:47] <ecormier> Fire-NR: where do things go wrong...you downloaded the driver, changed the xorg.conf and restarted x
[01:48] <Cashel> gambit: You could, but why would you want to? Just make a 32 bit chroot environment that way as a things become 64 bit friendly (As they slowly are) you can retain a pure 64 system...
[01:48] <Jowi> Masqy: remove gdm from for example rc3.d and then change /etc/inittab to launch id:3:initdefault: instead
[01:48] <tuxtheslacker> hey.
[01:48] <Fire-NR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[01:48] <linchris> why isnt halt/shutdown shown in the quit.. menu?
[01:48] <Fire-NR> i'm trying to do that
[01:48] <megatron> ...thanks thlayli... brb gonna try it out
[01:48] <Masqy> Jowi: and how do I load it afterwards?
[01:48] <Cashel> gambit: there is a rather good howto on making a 32 bit chroot env on ubuntuforums.org
[01:48] <tuxtheslacker> for some reason, my creative webcam notebook crashes my computer when I try to use it.
[01:48] <Fire-NR> but i get eeros when i do sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper ------- the module-assitant doesn't seem to wanna play :|
[01:49] <Jowi> Masqy: "startx" or "gdm" or whatever you feel like
[01:49] <gambit> Cashel: ill look 4 it, im a noob, ty
[01:49] <Masqy> Jowi:thanks..
[01:49] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: try the "Ubuntu provided drivers" method right above that and tell me where it goes wrong
[01:49] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how I could test to see why this driver crashes my computer?
[01:49] <ecormier> wait nix that last thing
[01:49] <Jaak> what is the diffrence beteem kubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:50] <Seveas> Jaak, kde vs gnome
[01:50] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: one sec
[01:50] <dumaiso> is ubuntu working on intel based macbooks?
[01:50] <crimsun> to some degree, yes, dumaiso
[01:50] <Seveas> dumaiso, you need some hacks
[01:50] <dumaiso> hm...
[01:50] <Jaak> ok, what is prefered
[01:50] <ecormier> Fire-NR: you are brezzy right
[01:50] <Cashel> gambit: just search 32bit chroot , you'll find it... otherwise yes, you can use the 32bit ubuntu by itself (thats what the chroot does) .. except chroot lets you run just the 32bit app itself, leaving everything else the 64bit version..
[01:50] <ecormier> *breezy
[01:51] <Fire-NR> yes erik
[01:51] <Fire-NR> hang on what version is brezzy?
[01:51] <ecormier> not erik....5.10
[01:51] <Fire-NR> :p sorry lack tab skills
[01:51] <Jaak> Seveas, is there a vs list somewhere so i can compare?
[01:51] <HotDrive> Jowi: Installed the Easycam2, still nothing... :(
[01:51] <ecormier> so you're 5.10
[01:52] <Fire-NR> no hang on
[01:52] <ecormier> ok
[01:52] <Fire-NR> uname -a is linux ubunt 2.6.11-9-adm64
[01:52] <HotDrive> system says that connot connect to device /dev/video0
[01:52] <Jowi> HotDrive: I said I found the webcam link. I didn't say I tested it. My webcam died just before I installed Ubuntu :)
[01:52] <ecormier> whats a good way to find the version of ubuntu from the command line anyone
[01:52] <HotDrive> :) ok ok
[01:52] <Seveas> Jaak, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/dapper/desktop vs http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/kubuntu-dapper/desktop
[01:53] <Touru> What media player would anyone suggest for a reeeeeeally long playlist? Mostly mp3, but some ogg, etcetera.
[01:53] <HotDrive> any more ideas?
[01:53] <skippy81> rhythmbox Touru
[01:53] <spikeb> heh
[01:53] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: that didn't help me...hang on
[01:53] <Trashcan> i have a script running at boot before ntpdate that runs dhclient and obtains an address
[01:53] <Touru> skippy81: Takes forever and three quarters to load. =/
[01:53] <Jaak> thanks and good night
[01:54] <Trashcan> can anyone tell me what might be the best way to check if it was successful?
[01:54] <Trashcan> it does the [OK]  or [FAIL]  thing if it errors
[01:54] <HotDrive> Ubuntu recognizes my camera, I tested it with hardinfo, but no program can access it
[01:54] <ecormier> what version of gnome are you runnning "system - about gnome
[01:54] <Trashcan> but makes no check to see if it actually got an address
[01:54] <skippy81> hmm thats strange Touru, i use it for my millions of smiths albums and it does an ok job
[01:54] <skippy81> but i dont use playlists as such, i just have the albums sorted
[01:55] <skippy81> xmms and beep are small and fast but their playlists are poorly featured
[01:55] <Touru> It's not too bad, but there are some frustrations. I switched to XMMS as a result, but it keeps crashing on me.
[01:55] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: what version of gnome are you runnning "system - about gnome"
[01:55] <SurfnKid> If i disable the NTFS partition on the System Administration Disks section, it shouldnt mount anything on reboot?
[01:55] <HotDrive> how can I know wish type of driver to use with my camera, to see if I have the correct one intalled
[01:55] <Touru> skippy81: I think the problem is that I have ~60GB of music, and like to just add it all and play on shuffle... hehe.
[01:55] <skippy81> Touru:  you could try Beep Media Player, its just like xmms but a bit less bloated and more stable
[01:55] <skippy81> hehe 60 gb is a lot :)
[01:55] <Touru> Ah, I'll do that.
[01:55] <tuxtheslacker> hey, is there aynone in here that uses the creative webcam notebook pd1171?  gnomemeeting, and several others find the webcam, but they also crash my machine when I try to use it.
[01:56] <skippy81> Touru:  you could try Amarok, i know its KDE but it should work on gnome
[01:56] <skippy81> its supposed to be the best for serious music collections
[01:56] <bleech> how stable is xgl w/ 6.06?
[01:56] <bleech> does anyone use it?
[01:56] <Touru> Interesting.
[01:56] <skippy81> bleech:  very stable
[01:56] <Sub> bleech, yes i do
[01:56] <Sub> but
[01:56] <Sub> !dapper
[01:56] <bleech> i really want to test it out
[01:56] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[01:56] <Sub> and
[01:56] <Sub> !xgl
[01:56] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:56] <Touru> When you install one KDE program, though, don't you get<PHONE_NUMBER> billion KDE bits and pieces?
[01:56] <bleech> thanks again
[01:56] <Sub> Touru, yes normally.
[01:57] <Touru> spikeb: Haha, if I had the knowledge to do that, I would.
[01:57] <skippy81> bleech:  compiz has crashed on me, but xgl never has
[01:57] <spikeb_> Touru: me too!
[01:57] <T`> the synaptic touchpad goes into weird states sometimes
[01:57] <nomad411> Hi all.. I'm sure it's asked often, but is there a real difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? Short of the default desktop used?
[01:57] <Fire-NR> ecormier i can't get xserver running :|
[01:57] <T`> like noe everytime i tap it gives middle button
[01:57] <Sub> Touru, Armarok and k3b are the only decent KDE apps, but worth the lib IMO
[01:57] <T`> the only way to fix is to reboot into windows and back
[01:57] <Sub> armarok is excellet
[01:57] <T`> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:57] <andrew_> back
[01:57] <HymnToLife> nomad411> none at all
[01:57] <ecormier> Fire-NR: right ....hmmm ok it shouldn't matter...try this
[01:57] <skippy81> Touru:  try amarok in synaptic, i dont think it will tick many extra packages
[01:57] <spikeb_> kopete is great as well
[01:57] <Jowi> HotDrive: easiest way is to do a "quick search" here and click "show" for your model: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
[01:58] <andrew_> so it's something to do with my plugins I think
[01:58] <Touru> Hmmm... guess I'll try beep first, and resort to Amarok if necessary.
[01:58] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:58] <tomek_> why, oh why, wXP started up in 1 min, on my old machine, wchile ubuntu takes almost 3 mins to start.... ???
[01:58] <nomad411> HymnToLife: thanks..  I look forward to trying out this new version, according to shalshdot, this is one major nice release..
[01:58] <HymnToLife> spikeb > but still has that annoying bug on MSN filetransfer
[01:58] <HymnToLife> or was it fixed ?
[01:58] <skippy81> Touru:  yeah beep is good, its like xmms lite :) it uses winamp skins so at least it can look funky
[01:58] <SurfnKid> tomek thats what i was thinking too, but i think its the modules that have to come up? mine takes about a minute sometimes depending on whats loading
[01:59] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: let me know if each step works or not
[01:59] <Sub> skippy81, can u get it to support wma?
[01:59] <tomek_> SurfnKid: so why does WinXP have all the features Ubuntu has, still loading three times faster?
[01:59] <ecormier> Fire-NR: you have 2 computers (how are you chatting?)
[02:00] <Touru> Amarok only selects about nine other items... not bad, I guess.
[02:00] <skippy81> Sub: im not sure mate, ive never used WMA in linux (64 bit user)
[02:00] <cello_rasp> how do i view videos encoded with h.264? breezy's vlc doesn't seem to have it
[02:00] <Masqy> as the default installation, runlevels 2 and 3 are identical?
[02:00] <SurfnKid> good question, well that i dont know, i guess you have to tweak ubuntu to load up faster i assume with less devices or modules
[02:00] <ecormier> Fire-NR: what card did you say it was again
[02:01] <skippy81> im a big wma hater ever since Windows Media player DRMed 3000 of my mates tunes he had ripped without telling him
[02:01] <cello_rasp> Sub: automatix should install the appropriate software
[02:01] <Fire-NR> ati x1800
[02:01] <Fire-NR> says it's the newest version installed.
[02:01] <skippy81> M$ had to remove the automatic drm because they got so many complaints about it
[02:01] <cello_rasp> skippy81: haha
[02:01] <SurfnKid> my WXP will start fine but after a few months the speed will age and it will be so slow to load that its ridiculous
[02:02] <orangey> hey all!
[02:02] <ecormier> Fire-NR: it doesn't say it supports it ... see http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html#173867
[02:02] <ecormier> we'll continue anyway
[02:02] <Cashel> Fire-NR: googling "xoomer fglrx" will get you a link with some handy info in it...
[02:02] <cello_rasp> again, any h.264 in ubuntu?
[02:02] <ecormier> next : sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:02] <orangey> quick q about evolution: It sometimes messes up HTML messages, and shows the actual HTML. This doesn't happen for all messages, though. Is there some way I can force evolution to interpret the message as html?
[02:02] <NigelS> Touru: not sure how ubuntu handles this but an issue with linux boot times is often that everything loads sequentially, even when it really could be loading in parallel.  There are efforts about to fix this...not sure whether ubuntu has started to incorporate them.  It also depends on what hw you have and services you run.  Does it take a long time at any particular point?
[02:02] <Cashel> oh x1800, not 800.. my bad... still may be worth looking at tho...
[02:02] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter: same thing.
[02:03] <Fire-NR> it's a all in wonder card
[02:03] <Fire-NR> so it's supported
[02:03] <Fire-NR> hmm
[02:03] <Masqy> as the default installation, runlevels 2 and 3 are identical?
[02:03] <ecormier> next command work??
[02:03] <Jowi> Masqy: "diff /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d" will tell you
[02:03] <Lueinden> Is there an option to upgrade from 5.10 to Dapper on the CD?
[02:03] <rever> HI could someone tell me how I can install the latest mythtv on dapper?
[02:03] <Lueinden> for Dapper, that is.
[02:04] <skippy81> Lueinden:  yes you can add the CD to sources list and do a dist-upgrade i believe
[02:04] <Lueinden> Okie dokie.  No worries.
[02:04] <orangey> alternatively, what channel has that sort of support? (for Evolution)
[02:04] <skippy81> in fact it may even auto run
[02:04] <Lueinden> 56kers here shudder at the thought of huge downloads
[02:04] <Lueinden> :)
[02:05] <kbrooks> skippy81: it doesn't.
[02:05] <skippy81> ah ok thx kbrooks, well you will have to add it to sources then Lueinden
[02:05] <Jowi> Masqy: if the result is nothing, that means that they are the same since diff only print the difference
[02:05] <whiter> how can i change that icon on the applications menu
[02:05] <whiter> or remove it
[02:05] <Lueinden> Okie dokie.
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> hey, why would a webcam driver crash my computer?
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> like it doesn't crash until i start up gnome conf, and try to use it.
[02:05] <Fire-NR> ecormier> it's a all in wonder card so it is supported
[02:05] <ecormier> Fire-NR: are you amd64
[02:05] <skippy81> whiter, do you mean the new dapper icon? its awful lol
[02:06] <SurfnKid> does anyone have an inspiron laptop here?
[02:06] <whiter> yes skippy
[02:06] <skippy81> i thought id broke something when i say it :D
[02:06] <Fire-NR> yup i just saw that :(
[02:06] <SurfnKid> I really want to get the lm-sensors up
[02:06] <Lueinden> Once I install dapper, does anyone think I'll be able to keep up with the updates on a 56k?
[02:06] <whiter> the one on the left of "Applications"
[02:06] <skippy81> its really bad lol
[02:06] <ecormier> 64-bit users:You have to downgrade to an older version of libdri.a due to an incompatilbity with the ATI drivers.
[02:06] <Lueinden> I hated the brown of Ubuntu 5.10 :/
[02:06] <kbrooks> skippy81: show me a screenshot
[02:06] <whiter> jesus how do i get rid of that ugly icon its messing up my whole theme
[02:06] <Masqy> Jowi: already did that, just wanted to make sure:) is  'sudo rm XXX' when XXX is a symbolic link, it only deletes the link itself, and not the file, right?
[02:06] <whiter> lol
[02:06] <green_earz> Lueinden: i think its some like sudo apt-cdrom   then apt-get update    then apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <spikeb_> Lueinden: heh, brown is now blinding orange
[02:06] <skippy81> kbrooks:  sure, give me a couple of min and ill get you one :)
[02:06] <Lueinden> Uh oh...
[02:06] <xcccc> www.worldcupyears.com
[02:06] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: I gotta go get beer...sorry I couldn't help, but thats the problem...the amd64 thing
[02:06] <Lueinden> Why not a cool color like blue or green?
[02:07] <poningru> how do I configure it to use a wireless network as soon as a wired connection is taken out
[02:07] <Fire-NR> thanks ecormier
[02:07] <kbrooks> amd64 sucks.
[02:07] <ecormier> np
[02:07] <Fire-NR> yer kbrooks tell me about it
[02:07] <Fire-NR> stupid mistake buying one
[02:07] <kbrooks> Lueinden: because it's too....cool
[02:07] <Lueinden> AMD 64s are bad?
[02:07] <poningru> not true
[02:07] <Jowi> Masqy: yeah, make sure you delete the one in /etc/rcX.d and not the one in /etc/init.d. another way of doing it is just to rename S13gdm to K13gdm
[02:07] <Fire-NR> they are for driver support etc.
[02:07] <poningru> if you run the 64bit os then yes they are bad
[02:07] <Lueinden> oh
[02:07] <ecormier> Fire-NR: definitely check out what the guide says about it
[02:07] <Fire-NR> still running 31bit windows on mine
[02:07] <poningru> since there is like no drivers for them
[02:07] <ShastaMaroon> Is there an apt-get option to update everything?
[02:07] <Fire-NR> 32*
[02:08] <ecormier> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[02:08] <Lueinden> I'll stick with 32 bit for a while, then.
[02:08] <Lueinden> ;)
[02:08] <Fire-NR> i will do :) will look at it tomorrow
[02:08] <Masqy> Jowi: K13gdm will not be run by run-parts ?
[02:08] <xcccc> www.worldcupyears.com
[02:08] <kbrooks> Fire-NR: LOL. 31bit windows
[02:08] <poningru> ShastaMaroon: apt-get update
[02:08] <Fire-NR> it's late here :p
[02:08] <Jowi> Masqy: only S* will be run
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> aww man, that guy was just in #c
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me something that will make my freaking webcam not crash my computer when I try to use it? This thing is really bothering me :-(
[02:08] <tomek_> SurfnKid: I mean the whole Ubuntu think seems like unusually slow comparing to my former XP system... Just drag a window andit leaves a nasty trace behind.. its generally slow... maybe you didnt notice that on your machine, but on a good old 600 mhz Duron here it shows quite q bit..
[02:08] <kbrooks> xcccc: stop spamming, spammer
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Lueinden: alot of non-free apps dont work on 64bit thats one reason why people say that
[02:08] <Masqy> Jowi: thanks.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> xcccc: stop that
[02:08] <Fire-NR> easy mistake :p
[02:08] <Lueinden> Note to self: Do not buy a 64 bit processor.
[02:08] <whiter> does anyone know how to disable/change the icon to the left of "Applications" menu?
[02:09] <squiggly> whyever not Lueinden?
[02:09] <kbrooks> whiter: the icon is hidden.
[02:09] <Lueinden> gnomefreak's reason.
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> 64-bit is good as long as you know what you use supports it.
[02:09] <Lueinden> lol
[02:09] <SurfnKid> tomek ouch leaves traces on ubuntu?
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> Like if you run solaris, of course you want a 64-bit machine.
[02:09] <whiter> kbrooks if it was hidden i wouldnt be able to see it
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has full support for 64 bit archs
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> hey, gnomefreak are oyu there? and can you help me out with a webcam issue?
[02:09] <SurfnKid> I dont seem to notice it, could be my memory too
[02:09] <poningru> ShastaMaroon: err apt-get upgrade
[02:09] <Lueinden> oooooo
[02:09] <RandolphCarter> running 32-bit on AMD64 isn't so bad though, smp goodness (doing that here)
[02:09] <kbrooks> whiter: you will never find it on your system
[02:09] <SurfnKid> eww webcam
[02:09] <Lueinden> I'm thinking of buying a laptop with money made this summer...
[02:09] <whiter> kbrooks i dont care where it is
[02:09] <void^> 64bit is currently a waste of money on a desktop, basically.
[02:09] <whiter> i just want to change it
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> SurfnKid, d'you think u can help me out?
[02:09] <michael117> What command can I use to wipe an entire hard drive clean of data and its partitions to be formatted again and ready for use?
[02:09] <SurfnKid> ubuntu froze trying to enable webacam
[02:09] <whiter> or disable it
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> poningru cool, thanks.   Maybe the font path is wrong.
[02:10] <MENDIGO> Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[02:10] <kbrooks> squiggly: meaning what?
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> the drivers are installed, and it's auto detected.
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> just when I load it my system goes "boom"
[02:10] <SurfnKid> yes tomek_ sometimes i get that, cpu is speedstep so sometimes they come and go
[02:10] <SurfnKid> tuxtheslacker i would if i knew how to
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> SurfnKid, Thanks :-D
[02:11] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: that i dont know (low on memory?
[02:11] <squiggly> Meaning... I predict 64bit applications to be more used and important in a year, maybe less
[02:11] <SurfnKid> np mate
[02:11] <Fire-NR> does ubuntu have ssh server enabled by default?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Fire-NR: no run sudo apt-get isntall openssh-server
[02:12] <gnomefreak> install*
[02:12] <skippy81> kbrooks:  as promised http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9841/dapperbuttonlol5qe.jpg
[02:12] <SurfnKid> Maybe I should install Ubuntu on my 500Mhz Vaio 128mb RAM 2.5MB VIDEO CARD! computer   does it sound like it would work?
[02:12] <skippy81> and anyone else who wants to laugh at the new dapper button :D http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9841/dapperbuttonlol5qe.jpg
[02:12] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: yes
[02:12] <tomek_> the other problem i have is I did know find that far a solid web dev tool, like dreamweaver was. I tried bluefish, its quite ok, can sb suggest anything apart from that?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: it better
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, this detects it as the wrong one...
[02:12] <sopido> hi is there a way to query vesa modes for framebuffer? on the "unoffice bootsplash howto" there a just modes up to 1280x1024 .. i wonder if i can find out a mode for 1920x1200 on my nvidia card?!
[02:12] <gnomefreak> could use lil more ram but it will run fine on 128
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> is there a way that I can change the bridge to read it as 1170, instead of 1171, and if so, how?
[02:13] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:13] <poningru> SurfnKid: that will work but it would be very sluggish
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> http://feanor.sssup.it/~pj/linux/creative_webcam_notebook.html
[02:13] <SurfnKid> kbrooks sweet
[02:13] <Lueinden> Eeew
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, &&
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> ^^*
[02:13] <poningru> SurfnKid: I would say put something like gentoo
[02:13] <kbrooks> skippy81: uh. im not sure thats a great icon
[02:13] <green_earz> tomek_: there allso quanta web design
[02:13] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: your asking wrong person i havent used a webcam in many years
[02:13] <kbrooks> poningru: dio not recommend gentoo in here
[02:13] <poningru> hehe
[02:13] <poningru> :P
[02:14] <gnomefreak> dont he meant
[02:14] <kbrooks> poningru: source distros aint good for newbies
[02:14] <SurfnKid> good idea ponigru thatll give me a bit to play with another linux flavor
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: no, dont
[02:14] <skippy81> yeah gentoo is hardcore :)
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: play with other linux flavours later
[02:14] <poningru> SurfnKid: belay that... its a very tough distro to get up and running
[02:14] <Ophiocus> i know its not oficial but i just wanted to say dappers iconery is SEXY!! tip o the hat to all ya graphics gurus out there
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: try ubuntu, see if you like it
[02:14] <skippy81> ubuntu has a good balance IMO between ease of use and 'proper' linux system
[02:14] <kbrooks> Ophiocus: iconery?
[02:14] <SurfnKid> kbrooks well im happy with it now on this 1.4Ghz box
[02:14] <skippy81> stuff like Linspire just looks aweful to me
[02:15] <poningru> kbrooks: iconery
[02:15] <skippy81> im not a big fan of SUSE either
[02:15] <Ophiocus> icons and desktop artistry
[02:15] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, okay, I understand, can you look on that website and tell me if you're reading it a little differently than me?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: try xubuntu
[02:15] <gnomefreak> its light weight not alot of ram needed
[02:15] <Mindtzar> anyone have any idea how I can compile something into a static binary?
[02:15] <SurfnKid> i wouldnt mind getting it on the vaio, knoppix DVD worked, the prob was it booted from CD so was very slow
[02:15] <SurfnKid> xubuntu?
[02:15] <poningru> SurfnKid: expect that to be a little bit harder to get used to...
[02:15] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: #xubuntu
[02:15] <SurfnKid> is that like Hummer 3 instead of Hummer 1
[02:15] <disinterested_pe> im still trying to get my sound to work from the keyboard
[02:15] <SurfnKid> :P
[02:15] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: im not reading anything right now except on what im doing
[02:16] <poningru> !tell SurfnKid about xubuntu
[02:16] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: its a magic tiny memory ubuntu solution
[02:16] <skippy81> Slackware used to be my fave distro, but the dude who maintained it got and now ubuntu is by far the best distro
[02:16] <SurfnKid> thanx
[02:16] <kbrooks> !forget poningru
[02:16] <ubotu> kbrooks: i didn't have anything called 'poningru'
[02:16] <SurfnKid> cool
[02:16] <Mindtzar> anyone have any idea how I can compile something into a static binary?
[02:16] <SurfnKid> sounds interesting
[02:16] <kbrooks> lol
[02:16] <poningru> arr?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: its a lightweight gnome (atleast its starting to look like gnome
[02:16] <NthDegree> !bug1
[02:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NthDegree
[02:16] <Cashel> Mindtzar: usualy there will be instructions.... ./configure  then  make  then  make install  are typical commands...
[02:16] <kbrooks> !forget the existence of poningru
[02:16] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'the existence of poningru', kbrooks
[02:16] <Ophiocus> disinterested_pe: for special keys lookup the bind files for your keyboard, i dont remember how but i know thats the right path
[02:16] <spikeb_> !bug 1
[02:16] <ubotu> spikeb_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:16] <poningru> rofl
[02:16] <spikeb_> bah
[02:16] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, oh okay, didn't know u were working on something else.
[02:16] <SurfnKid> never kenw the diff between gnome and kde
[02:16] <disinterested_pe> hummmm?
[02:16] <NthDegree> !forget about ubuntu :P
[02:16] <ubotu> NthDegree: i didn't have anything called 'about ubuntu :p'
[02:17] <SurfnKid> i would love to get 3dDesktop going
[02:17] <SurfnKid> that would make my day
[02:17] <kbrooks> spikeb_: goto #ubuntu-bugs and type "bug 1"
[02:17] <SurfnKid> anyone mess with it?
[02:17] <poningru> SurfnKid: eh I dont think you can with that hardware
[02:17] <disinterested_pe> the volume bar goes up and down but the sound doesnt
[02:17] <tuxtheslacker> [4296826.795000]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Creative Webcam Notebook Zc301+Tas5130c
[02:17] <Ophiocus> SurfnKid: what you need with it?
[02:17] <xcccc>  WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM
[02:17] <poningru> !ops
[02:17] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:17] <Jowi> SurfnKid: yep. it works fine
[02:17] <SurfnKid> ponigru i have 2 laptops  500mhz 2.5mb memory and 1.4ghz 128ATI
[02:17] <SurfnKid> im on the 1.4 now
[02:18] <tuxtheslacker> that looks like it worked, and then all of a sudden, when I try to use it, it breaks....
[02:18] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have any idea?
[02:18] <SurfnKid> Jowi really
[02:18] <tomek_> K, what is the basic system you think, i mean i386, that will let you work flawlessly with ubuntu..? Should 650 Mhz Duron 256 MB RAM be enuf?
[02:18] <SurfnKid> Jowi Whats a good window manager, I couldnt get that going
[02:18] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:18] <kbrooks> k, not porn
[02:19] <spikeb_> tomek_: yes, that duron would be enough
[02:19] <poningru> nalioth: :)
[02:19] <kbrooks> nalioth: ty
[02:19] <kbrooks> nalioth: wondrousful master :P
[02:19] <Jowi> SurfnKid: absolutely. i just put "3ddesk --aquire=5000 &" in my ~/.xsession file. then bind some keys to do "3ddesk --gotoleft" and "3ddesk --gotoright"
[02:19] <skippy81> guys, whats the score with flac as a format to store music? is the sound quality really all that?
[02:19] <spikeb_> skippy81: oh yeah
[02:19] <skippy81> im thinking of using it from now on, i really notice the loss from mp3
[02:19] <Jowi> SurfnKid: I used both sawfish, pekwm and pwm without a problem
[02:19] <green_earz> {V0rtexia}: apt-get your kernel source
[02:20] <spikeb_> skippy81: flac or high bitrate ogg is where it is at
[02:20] <SurfnKid> Jowi english my friend lol, man  that sounds like i might have to do a step by step to learn this :P
[02:20] <skippy81> ogg seems to drive my bass speakers a bit better than mp3, but im hoping flac will be even better :)
[02:20] <spikeb_> skippy81: it will be
[02:20] <SurfnKid> i just like the 3desktop to shock my windows xp community in this town
[02:20] <SurfnKid> they all think linux is a drink
[02:20] <skippy81> cool spikeb_ ill start ripping too flac then, hard disk space isnt really an issue these days :)
[02:20] <Zaire> anyone know what could cause gaim to crash ubuntu?
[02:20] <Sub> skippy81, thats because mp3's compression does it by limiting the frequency range
[02:21] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: drink?
[02:21] <Sub> so u loose lowe bass and high treble
[02:21] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: LOKL
[02:21] <kbrooks> LOL*
[02:21] <SurfnKid> kbrooks tell me about it
[02:21] <skippy81> yeah Sub, it seems to limit it in all the wrong places as well hehe
[02:21] <Sub> skippy81, flac retains all the audio infomation so it'll sound MUCH better
[02:21] <SurfnKid> Jowi ok, ill have to check those wm
[02:21] <NigelS> 3ddesk!
[02:21] <NigelS> that's old hat for impressing windows friends
[02:21] <Jowi> SurfnKid: nah. it is not so difficult. if you use gnome, you can put "3ddesk --aquire=5000" in the session startup. That will make 3ddesk take screenshots of all your desktops. I dont use gnome anymore so i can't guide you there.
[02:21] <kbrooks> is there a way to compress things such that its sooooooo small?
[02:22] <skippy81> cool, im going to rip a cd with flac now :)
[02:22] <nalioth> skippy81: flac is lossless audio, ogg and mp3 are lossy audio.  may i suggest you research the www for their pros and cons
[02:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: bzip2
[02:22] <SurfnKid> Jowi what do u use?
[02:22] <NigelS> the only thing worth impressing windows users is Compiz :)
[02:22] <skippy81> ok i will, i assume that you do get some compression with flac though?
[02:23] <Masqy> Ok.. that's weird.. tried changing the default runlevel to 3, remover the Sgdm link from /etc/rd.3/ (renamed it to Kgdm), and when I booted to runlevel 3, the ppp interface (my internet connection) was not started.. back in old 1985 now:)
[02:23] <skippy81> i mean it wont be the size of a wav lol :)
[02:23] <Jowi> SurfnKid: at the moment i'm testing pekwm. it is fantastic but have alot of options (good for some people like me, annoying for others)
[02:23] <poningru> skippy81: yeah you will get some compression
[02:23] <skippy81> lol Masqy stars in Back to the Future IV
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> ?!?!?!
[02:23] <SurfnKid> right
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> ANY IDEAS ?!
[02:23] <Jowi> SurfnKid: if you want something fast, stable and easy. go with sawfish
[02:23] <SurfnKid> good its working out for ya
[02:24] <JimH_> can someone help with vnc from windows xp box to ubuntu ... I am able to go from ubuntu to windows but not visa versa ... I have tried ssh with ip but cannot go the other way
[02:24] <Masqy> skippy81: just watched for the zillion time the triology last night :)
[02:24] <skippy81> lol
[02:24] <SurfnKid> yeah i mean i have no issues with the video card so far i think, so im hoping that itll produce some nice graphics, otherwise i'll kill 3ddesk
[02:24] <skippy81> I watched "Doctor Strangelove" while i was chatting on the IRC last night :)
[02:24] <SurfnKid> i just saw something on google that caught my attention and i thought it was awesome to work with
[02:24] <amphi> SurfnKid: yeah, just kill it
[02:25] <NigelS> SurfnKid: 3ddesk is a hack, use compiz :P
[02:25] <amphi> just use gnu screen
[02:25] <NigelS> :) aren't we all?
[02:25] <skippy81> SurfnKid: there is also something called gnome-compmgr which is kinda like a cut down compiz
[02:25] <spikeb_> lol compiz/xgl are hacks as well
[02:25] <SurfnKid> ta hell is compiz
[02:25] <||arifaX> JimH_, you need vncserver installed
[02:25] <Masqy> skippy81: that one I nearly know by heart.. and also found myself a connection between the two :)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> NigelS: i think you have that backwards compiz and xgl are the hacked apps
[02:25] <amphi> SurfnKid: unstable eye candy
[02:25] <tomek_> thx for all the tips so far,I have one more to ask - how can I check my HD for errors or bad sectors or whatever on ubuntu?
[02:26] <JimH_> how do I start it arifax
[02:26] <SurfnKid> english people!!!
[02:26] <amphi> tomek_: badblocks
[02:26] <SurfnKid> hehehe
[02:26] <Jowi> compiz is overkill. 3ddesk work fine on my low-end computer
[02:26] <SurfnKid> i have to really do some research on all those things guys
[02:26] <NigelS> gnomefreak: yeah, I think taking static screenshots and putting them on an gl cube is a fairly hacky way of persuading your windows friends that linux has 3d desktop effects
[02:26] <SurfnKid> but so far im just proud i got the music and wlan0 going
[02:27] <SurfnKid> the rest ill learn to live without it for now
[02:27] <NigelS> Jowi: comparing the 2 is like comparing apples and screwdrivers..they're not really the same area
[02:27] <||arifaX> JimH_ never used it under ubuntu. can someone help JimH_ with that?
[02:27] <skippy81> SurfnKid, dont worry, theres no rush with XGL/Compiz they have yet to mature
[02:27] <||arifaX> I think its vncserver
[02:27] <Jowi> NigelS: exactly
[02:27] <JimH_> ty
[02:28] <SurfnKid> Nigels is that not how 3Ddesktop is then?
[02:28] <JimH_> I pref to use putty
[02:28] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[02:28] <tomek_> amphi: sorry for being such a moron, but what exactly do i have to type: badblocks -what?
[02:28] <NigelS> Jowi: then saying it's overkill, I use 3ddesk as an *alternative* doesn't really parse
[02:28] <skippy81> but be rest assured that when Vista hits the shelves you will allready have some hardcore eyecandy curteousy of the Penguin :)
[02:28] <HotDrive> anyone can tell me how to install sn9c102?
[02:28] <SurfnKid> any other way to check there is a correct ATI driver installed other than the grep command to see the Driver?
[02:29] <ShastaMaroon> Who is 'hal' and why is he in my /etc/group file?
[02:29] <NigelS> SurfnKid: 3ddesk takes screenshots, compiz/xgl has actual rendering in realtime and in my experience the last few updates have reall
[02:29] <Jowi> NigelS: well SurfnKid asked about 3ddesk so that's what we were discussing
[02:29] <NigelS> SurfnKid: improved the stability
[02:29] <amphi> tomek_: man badblocks - you want non-destructive, probably; if it's a recent drive, you'd probably be better off to use smartctl to run the drive's onboard diagnostics
[02:29] <HotDrive> Jowi: I've tried almost every program in the repositories... still the same error
[02:29] <skippy81> 3dDesk probably has its merits
[02:29] <skippy81> i imagine it has a lower overhead than xgl
[02:30] <Fire-NR> hmm i've done somthing wrong.. fglrxinfo --- Error: unlable to open display :0
[02:30] <spikeb_> much much lower
[02:30] <SurfnKid> Yeah 3dDesk, or something that will have rendering
[02:30] <NigelS> Jowi: I think what you said didn't make sense anyway, but it's really not important
[02:30] <amphi> NigelS: apparently, it breaks some opengl progs
[02:30] <NigelS> yes it will
[02:30] <mkoby> Hi all, I have a rackmount KVM switch and two rackmount Ethernet switches, they all have female RS-232 ports on them, and I'm wondering if I need to buy a null-modem or regular cable to connect them to my computer.
[02:30] <amphi> NigelS: any idea why?
[02:31] <SurfnKid> I just want to take advantage of the fact that my UT2004 game on XP is so awesome, so i gotta take advantage of the card in linux
[02:31] <NigelS> but all I'm saying is that if I had to impress some windows friends, I'd fire up compiz for a session and show them the non-buggy bits above a lame demo of 3ddesk that is so 2000 :P
[02:31] <Jowi> NigelS: on my hardware compiz just about work. that's it. for me it is overkill for just some desktop 3d flipping (i know compiz does alot more than that)
[02:31] <klaxian> how do i set my photo for the user chooser in the gdm menu?
[02:31] <skippy81> SurfnKid:  lets just check something,what is your card again?
[02:31] <SurfnKid> 128MB ATI M10
[02:31] <Jowi> NigelS: but compiz *is* damn impressive
[02:31] <skippy81> is it an X series?
[02:31] <Sub> klaxian, System-Admin-Login Window
[02:31] <SurfnKid> 9600 ATI
[02:32] <klaxian> Sub: i was just there...i'll look again
[02:32] <poningru> oh..
[02:32] <poningru> SurfnKid: whats your system memory?
[02:32] <SurfnKid> 1024
[02:32] <NigelS> Jowi: yeah, Gnome looks pretty as it is, but compiz makes it all look really slick - the transparency is actually useful as is the expose clone
[02:32] <poningru> SurfnKid: I thought 128mb was your system memory
[02:32] <poningru> wtf
[02:32] <mkoby> I have a rackmount KVM switch (made by Compaq) and two rackmount Ethernet switches (made by 3Com), they all have female RS-232 ports on them, and I'm wondering if I need to buy a null-modem or regular cable to connect them to my computer.  They all have female 9-pin connectors on them.
[02:32] <poningru> dude then everything will run just fine for you
[02:33] <klaxian> Sub: i'm there but how do i set my user photo?
[02:33] <SurfnKid> Centrino 1.4Ghz 1024MB RAM 128MB VIDEO MEMORY ATI M10
[02:33] <SurfnKid> thats why i wanna get this thing supd up
[02:33] <SurfnKid> :D
[02:33] <skippy81> ah ok, well SurfnKid, there is a hardware accelerating ATI driver, but i dont think it will work with your card.  It is called fglrx but it is for only 9200 and lower or x series i think
[02:33] <spikeb_> no
[02:33] <spikeb_> fglrx is for a lot of cards
[02:33] <SurfnKid> right i keep hearing about that subject
[02:33] <spikeb_> the 9200 and lower is just the OSS driver limitation
[02:34] <crafteh> I am trying to get my ati radeon mobility working on dapper, but i get these errors when I run glxinfo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/74594
[02:34] <klaxian> Sub: u know, the photo that appears in the face chooser...
[02:34] <Jowi> NigelS: do you know if it handles autotransparencies? for example, if a window that is first in the zaxis has more opacity?
[02:34] <Sub> klaxian, i dont have the face chooser so i dont know sorry :
[02:35] <SurfnKid> Skippy81 is there an easy way to get the ATI module out in case of a graphics problem?
[02:35] <HotDrive> well... maybe another day. Thank you all. Bye
[02:35] <SurfnKid> Im willing to try it
[02:35] <NigelS> Jowi: last I looked, and I'm not near my dev playmachine atm, you could set discreet stages of opacity for a given window and windows would move to opacity as you alt-tabbed etc but no such clerness yet that I saw
[02:35] <SurfnKid> better yet, maybe i should try compiz/xgl
[02:35] <Jowi> NigelS: ah, alright
[02:35] <klaxian> Sub: no problem...
[02:36] <crafteh> I'm also trying to get fglrx working, but I get these errors: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/745949
[02:36] <klaxian> does anyone know how to set the face photo for a user to show in the face browser in the gdm login manager
[02:36] <maikol> i apt-get install apache2, but some of the files created have .dpkg-new appended.
[02:36] <McScruff> Help, im trying to watch a video, it works fine the 1st time i play it, but when ever i play any other video after they come out all blue tinted
[02:36] <skippy81> SurfnKid: have a look at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=ati+drivers
[02:36] <tomek_> if badblocks generates numbers i think thats bad? There was so many I had to stop it....
[02:36] <skippy81> i think it may be worth you trying to get the proprietary drivers going, i assume at the moment you are just using the generic xorg driver
[02:38] <SurfnKid> I believe so.. is it in xorg.conf?
[02:39] <skippy81> yeah do the grep thing on xorg.conf again and see what the name is
[02:39] <skippy81> i think it will be "ati" which is the generic one
[02:39] <SurfnKid> i did its ATI
[02:39] <SurfnKid> lemme check again
[02:39] <Zaire> what would cause gaim to crash kubuntu?
[02:40] <skippy81> "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" i think
[02:40] <Zaire> or rather ubuntu lol
[02:40] <SurfnKid> hehe i copy all those commands to a pad so i wont forget
[02:40] <SurfnKid> yeah thats it
[02:40] <skippy81> Zaire, when you say crash, do you mean the system fully stops responding?
[02:40] <SurfnKid> yea ati
[02:40] <Zaire> yeps
[02:41] <skippy81> hmm, ive never had that happen to me before lol
[02:41] <skippy81> next time it happens Zaire, try pressing control-alt-f1
[02:41] <SurfnKid> guess it might work, the site talks about a 9700 so i would assume 9600 isnt too far from this version
[02:41] <Fire-NR> is there like a list of names to use in the xorg.conf E.G trying to setup my samsung monitor in xorg
[02:41] <skippy81> yeah thats what i noticed SurfnKid
[02:41] <skippy81> i think you should have a go
[02:41] <SurfnKid> ive had my webcam crash ubuntu once, not trying that again
[02:42] <skippy81> really? I have never had a crash in Ubuntu yet
[02:42] <Zaire> not sure quite why but I have an AMD Sempron64 and its 64 bit ubuntu breezy but I haven noticed alot of bugzilla reports on crash's like this involving nvidia vid cards
[02:42] <skippy81> Zaire, try the memtest tool on grub startup
[02:43] <skippy81> linux really shouldnt crash, it is considered the most solid OS on the consumer market - Xwindows may crash but alt-control-F1 should always give you access to the shell
[02:43] <SurfnKid> well after I get back from my jog I'll work on the ati card thing and the xgl thing to get the 3d desktop going and see if its cool
[02:43] <Zaire> will do that just gotta wait for the updates to finish in hopes it might fix the prob but not likely
[02:43] <SurfnKid> thanx skip
[02:43] <skippy81> nps mate
[02:43] <troy_s> Zaire:  Nvidia's driver is closed source and, being such, subjects X windows to instability.
[02:43] <darger> troy_s - that is - pardon my french - BS
[02:43] <Zaire> figures Im hoping to get an X800 soon
[02:44] <SurfnKid> no french here please, just inglich inglich
[02:44] <skippy81> darger, its not really - how can the kernel team etc write stable software around sourcecode they cant look at?
[02:44] <troy_s> darger:  No it is not.  If the source is closed, and it tinkers with a system level thing, you can't be certain what is causing what.
[02:44] <mrproper> In Dapper's gedit, when I hit ctrl+q it selects all.  Can someone reproduce this?
[02:44] <troy_s> darger:  Closed source doesn't work very well.  Period.
[02:45] <runes> is there a certain variable that has to be placed in the adduser.conf so that it automatically creates a subdirectory in the users home directory ?
[02:45] <skippy81> lol i love a nice quitting message :)
[02:46] <carthik> mrproper, no, but is it just gedit or other text editing apps too?
[02:46] <mrproper> carl_, Lets see.
[02:46] <whiter> does anyone know how to disable/change the icon to the left of "Applications" menu?
[02:46] <skippy81> whiter, im working on the same thing at the moment :D
[02:46] <tomek_> i was so dissapointed at ubuntu that i thought of buying my own winXP thing, now I think your so great at supporting people, that I might consider stick to Ubuntu and get to like it....
[02:46] <whiter> hm
[02:46] <alxarch> hi i have a mobo problem with an asus p4p-800
[02:46] <skippy81> im trying to find the icon on the disk so i can change it
[02:46] <maikol> anyone know why my newly installed files have ".dpkg-new" appended to them?
[02:46] <mrproper> Does anyone know how to get opera working on dapper?
[02:47] <whiter> the icon is start-here.svg i think
[02:47] <Maytag> Can I use the Live cd and a new hd to dl and install the full version of Ubuntu?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[02:47] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:47] <gnomefreak> !opera
[02:47] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:47] <troy_s> tomek:  Ubuntu is a beginning.  Operating systems should be free as in freedom.  If you want something to be better, everyone needs to make it better.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mrproper: go to the one for dapper and download it than dpkg -i  to install it
[02:48] <skippy81> i have an idea whiter, we can get someone who hasnt ran update to put up there icon on imageshack
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, There isn't one for dapper.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: there was
[02:48] <gnomefreak> i have it
[02:48] <skippy81> then we can 'downgrade' ours with it :)
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, No kidding.
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Can you give me a hand finding it?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: i gave you the link
[02:48] <SurfnKid> tomek_ well when I had someone help me with an issue, it felt better than your typical India-Pakistan Tech  Support, and everyone here is actually a bit dedicated to linux, rather than just working for a check with poor customer service
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, I didn't see it.  Thanks!
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/
[02:49] <gnomefreak> mrproper: go download the one that says dapper
[02:49] <gnomefreak> 4th one up from bottom
[02:49] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Oh you're a god among men
[02:49] <McScruff> Help, im trying to watch a video, it works fine the 1st time i play it, but when ever i play any other video after they come out all blue tinted
[02:49] <skippy81> I actually think that linux is generally a better OS than windows - its just people get addicted to the proprietary software bundled with M$ and find it hard to migrate
[02:49] <NF4> Hello do I need anti virus with ubuntu
[02:50] <troy_s> skippy81:  Well said.  And they also don't realize their rights are being pinched as they support Microsoft or Apple.
[02:50] <spikeb> heh and i think the OSS software that's part of linux distros is their strength
[02:50] <gnomefreak> NF4: not for normal use no
[02:50] <spikeb> NF4: no
[02:50] <tomek_> problems so far, I cant listen to my favorite radio station casue rythmbox just stops playing it after a couple of mins and closes.... I have to start all over again... It drives me nuts... I wonder why.... ok, lets get this over with again... rythbox -start my radio station - wait until it happens again...
[02:50] <carthik> !offtopic
[02:50] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:50] <troy_s> NF4:  Computer security should always be at the forefroont of your thinking though.
[02:50] <NF4> I have firestarter
[02:50] <troy_s> NF4:  No machine is safe.  Learn how your computer works and pay close attention to it.
[02:50] <NF4> installed
[02:50] <gui> I'm trying to install totem-xine but it wants to remove the ubuntu-desktop package!
[02:50] <skippy81> yeah troy_s, its funny how windows users never mention the time M$ upgraded Windows media player so it would DRM lock your WMAs to your hardware as you burnt them
[02:50] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Oh you're awesome.  Thank you very much.  They don't list the dapper install on their download page for beta, that's all.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> gui: thats fine
[02:50] <alxarch> can anyone help me? i can't get my asus p4p-800 to use all the ide channels (p-ata and s-ata)
[02:51] <troy_s> skippy:  Amen.  Or the DRM Apple slotted in behind everyone's back.
[02:51] <gui> gnomefreak: omg really??
[02:51] <gnomefreak> mrproper: thats why i made that factoid in ubotu ;)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:51] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[02:51] <gnomefreak> gui: ^^^
[02:51] <runes> alxarch did you load the asus drivers fro the board?
[02:51] <skippy81> yeah DRM will be the real battleground in which people will eventually see the light
[02:51] <planetcall> goodmorning all
[02:51] <runes> load=install
[02:51] <NF4> well I read in a book once that if you unplug your pc and lock in a safe and gaurd it with a m-16 that it will be hacker proof untill the enamy defets you
[02:51] <troy_s> NF4:  Firestarter is only a frontend for the already existing iptables.
[02:51] <carthik> troy_s, skippy81 could you please move that conv to #ubuntu-offtopic so others seeking help can get some :)
[02:51] <SurfnKid> the only reason im on ubuntu now is cuz i have to boxes, otherwise i couldnt i run a business and i cant twiddle from OS to OS but this has been faultless since ive gotten it going
[02:51] <Zaire> kde is my fav enviro
[02:51] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Thanks.  Have a nice night (and a Happy Memorial Day if you're in the US)
[02:51] <gui> gnomefreak: I'm not joking :P
[02:51] <alxarch> it can't boot if i enable them all because of some short of irq conflict
[02:52] <gnomefreak> gui: either am i its ok to delete
[02:52] <skippy81> carthik:  dont worry we finished now :)
[02:52] <NF4> well it made my blocks green in grc scan wich I like
[02:52] <planetcall> Guys name the Torrent clients you are using (exclude java based clients as Azureus)
[02:52] <disinterested_pe> im useing streamtuner for radio
[02:52] <runes> alxarch dou you ahve add on cards as well?
[02:52] <alxarch> nop
[02:52] <caskey> Why isn't tomcat4 in 5.10 anymore?  Or more properly, how can I go about getting the tomcat4 package?
[02:52] <PerceptualChaos> hey I changed the permissions on my home directory cause I didn't think about what that might do, now its screwed something up! What is the default setting? I changed it to chmod -R a+rwx and I'm thinking that I should be able to take it back to the default with  chmod -R a-x. Is that right?
[02:52] <runes> so embedded sound audio nic?
[02:52] <troy_s> NF4:  Yes, it probably set all incoming packets to ignore.
[02:52] <NF4> I just use bit torrent
[02:52] <Zaire> ktorrent works good I think its better then azureus
[02:52] <gui> gnomefreak: ok then, thx
[02:52] <carthik> alxarch, you can check if it is a bug at launchpad.net - besides that, there is little I can do to help
[02:52] <alxarch> it's a feature of the mobo called "enchanched mod"
[02:52] <NF4> yeah
[02:52] <troy_s> Zaire:  Bittornado is good too.
[02:52] <whiter> i think i fixed it
[02:52] <alxarch> *mod=mode
[02:52] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, chmod  0770 /home/foo
[02:53] <whiter> i need to restart gnome's panels how do i do that?
[02:53] <Zaire> yea but does it have listed torrent search engines
[02:53] <skippy81> planetcall, you could try the 'offical bittorent' client : http://www.bittorrent.com/download.myt
[02:53] <runes> well I have the asus an vm-csm
[02:53] <gnomefreak> whiter: killall gnome-panel
[02:53] <Zaire> and a builtin search for them
[02:53] <runes> I used ubuntu 6 install cd
[02:53] <NF4> no
[02:53] <runes> booted with the embedde enabled
[02:53] <runes> pnp enabled
[02:53] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, thanks - what does 0770 mean?
[02:53] <runes> recongnized the drives
[02:53] <runes> booted to desktop
[02:53] <planetcall> skippy81, thanks buddy but I dont like its no interface idea. I need a client with good configurable options and slightly better interface to manage IP and priority
[02:53] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, Nuclear fix:  find /home/foo -type d -exec chmod 0770 {} \; ; find /home/foo -type f -exec chmod 0660 {} \; ;
[02:53] <runes> tehn dl the asus drivers
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell runes about enter
[02:54] <skippy81> i have to say, BitComet is a very good clent, it is a shame its not on linux
[02:54] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, it means you and your personal group have read/write/traverse perms to your home dir but Others do not
[02:54] <skippy81> yeah planetcall, i must admit i am a bit unsatisfied with the torrent situation at the moment
[02:54] <planetcall> skippy81, I totally agree ! though BC! is not supported by many private trackers these days
[02:54] <itrebal> how can i keep GDM from starting up when i login?
[02:54] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, will I need to use the recursive flag?
[02:54] <gui> gnomefreak: ok so this new xine will run inside totem? I've installed "totem-xine" and "xine-ui"
[02:54] <maikol> when one apt-get's something with the command line, does the console close when its done or should it stay open. i ask because mine closed
[02:54] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, no
[02:55] <gnomefreak> itrebal: what would you like to start up?
[02:55] <NF4> have you looked at ctorrent
[02:55] <planetcall> itrebal, dpkg-reconfigure kdm   incase you want to start kdm at beginning
[02:55] <phidaux> Does anyone know if there a version of automatix for amd? (very new... please be kind)
[02:55] <NF4> http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net/?action=featreq
[02:55] <nalioth> !automatix
[02:55] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:55] <troy_s> itrebal:  or xdm
[02:55] <gnomefreak> gui: totem-xine uses the xine engine not the gstreamer engine
[02:55] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, the second command(s) will completely fix your home dir, but it will strip the execute bit off of any programs you have placed in your home dir
[02:55] <spikeb> !tell phibxr about easyubuntu
[02:55] <itrebal> gnomefreak: i dont want anything to startup, i just want  a regular console login
[02:55] <gui> gnomefreak: yes, but does it run in the same software (in this case, totem)?
[02:55] <Red-Sox> Hi, whenever I try to do the ubuntu install on my machine, it says 'Loading Partitioner' and then goes to a blank, blue screen and nothing happens
[02:56] <tomek_> if i want to switch to - say - kdm, would "apt-get install kdm" do?
[02:56] <Maytag> Can I use the Live cd and a new hd to dl and install the full version of Ubuntu?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> gui: it is totem just a differnet engine (part you never see)
[02:56] <planetcall> tomek_, yes
[02:56] <gui> gnomefreak: oh ok, thx again
[02:56] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  is there any way you can get hold of a live CD?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Maytag: only the 6.06 live cd
[02:56] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, are you saying I could run either the first or the second group? or I need to run both?
[02:56] <Zaire> "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:56] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Ya I have a few
[02:56] <NF4>  planetcall check out  torrentflux too
[02:56] <NF4> that looks full fetured
[02:56] <gnomefreak> bbl
[02:56] <planetcall> NF4 hmm...checking out
[02:56] <skippy81> it will be a lot easier that way, Red-Sox, Dapper is much more reliably installed from the live desktop cd
[02:56] <NF4> http://www.torrentflux.com/
[02:57] <Red-Sox> skippy81> I'm usin' breezy...
[02:57] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, the second includes the first, effectively.   We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:57] <caskey> Both wouldn't hurt.  chmod commands are idempotent
[02:57] <Red-Sox> How long will the dapper install disk take to dl on T1?
[02:57] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  i would really recommend you get dapper RC1 now, it is really reliable
[02:57] <caskey> fuck you ubotu
[02:57] <Kyral> uhh
[02:57] <itrebal> i'd like to keep GDM from starting up, and instead i just want to be brought to a standard startup-screen, with the TTY1 TTY2 etc - a text-base console
[02:57] <skippy81> Red-Sox 3.5 hours max
[02:57] <planetcall> ohhh....torrentflux requires a webserver :(
[02:57] <Red-Sox> skippy81> k cool, does it fit on a CD?
[02:57] <Kyral> more like 3.5 seconds max :P
[02:57] <spikeb> !ops
[02:57] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:57] <skippy81> should come down at at least 60k
[02:57] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, ok cool thanks so I'll try the first one and see if that fixes it
[02:58] <Kyral> FINISH HIM!!
[02:58] <gnomefreak> spikeb: ???
[02:58] <skippy81> yes Red-Sox, it will be a single iso file, i will get you the link, hang on :)
[02:58] <alxarch> ok second question here goes: i followed the howto for installing ubuntu from a pendrive but syslinux doesn't set my pendrive to be bootable. any other way to set it to be bootable?
[02:58] <Red-Sox> Kyral> hehe
[02:58] <spikeb> gnomefreak: <caskey> fuck you ubotu
[02:58] <nalioth> spikeb: what's up?
[02:58] <Red-Sox> skippy81> -K-
[02:58] <Kyral> Double language violation
[02:58] <Red-Sox> spikeb> Now you are in trouble :P
[02:58] <gnomefreak> caskey: dont use fowl language please
[02:58] <spikeb> ah crap
[02:58] <caskey> gnomefreak, yeah yeah yeah
[02:58] <Kyral> gnomefreak: he was explaining why he summoned the ops
[02:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell caskey about rules
[02:59] <whiter> ok i think i figured out how to change the icon
[02:59] <whiter> but i also broke it
[02:59] <whiter> :P
[02:59] <Masqy> can somone write the ip address of google.com ?
[02:59] <maikol> Zaire, when you do the apt-get to get kde, does it get rid of the gnome or does one have both
[02:59] <Red-Sox> nalioth> caskey doesn't like ubotu :D
[02:59] <Masqy> ( I think the my DNS is down)
[02:59] <SurfnKid> i  thought f**k couldnt be used
[02:59] <nalioth> Red-Sox: we must learn to love our neighbors
[02:59] <planetcall> Masqy, you can use an Extension of Firefox which displays IP of current website at status bar
[02:59] <SurfnKid> but when i used crap... everyone crapped all over me about it
[02:59] <Red-Sox> nalioth> hehe
[03:00] <PerceptualChaos> it seemed to funk something up pretty badly cause it just all of a sudden my xwindows just crashes into the following: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=156003067&size=o
[03:00] <NF4> what dose hostname mean under linux
[03:00] <NF4> is it the name of  my pc
[03:00] <the> hey how do you compile and install a dos emu?
[03:00] <Masqy> planetcall... I guess I'll try when the DNS is back, if that is my problem :)
[03:00] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/6.06/
[03:00] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Is it capped?
[03:00] <Healot> NF4: it's the name of your friend's PC :)
[03:00] <skippy81> Red-Sox not too sure, where do you live?
[03:00] <Red-Sox> VA
[03:00] <NF4> oh i see
[03:00] <skippy81> i think it is capped at 60k though
[03:01] <the> ?
[03:01] <Red-Sox> skippy81> I want the 'Desktop CD' right?
[03:01] <SurfnKid> masqy google's DNS are dynamic and are different IP's depending on your location so I wouldnt have a clue
[03:01] <Red-Sox> Oh...20 minutes, this isn't bad
[03:01] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Tell me if I have these dual-boot notes right:
[03:01] <hangfire> the- if you know the name of a dos emu, look in the repository list
[03:01] <nalioth> Red-Sox: you do
[03:01] <NF4> do you guys make sure your mprime stable  befor running your computers
[03:02] <planetcall> did anyone name KTorrent ?
[03:02] <planetcall> looks good to me
[03:02] <the> How do you compile and install a dos emu in Linux!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <Masqy> SurfnKid: than maybe some other less known site.. just need an IP of a site..
[03:02] <hangfire> the- if you know the name of a dos emu, look in the repository list
[03:02] <Red-Sox> skippy81> -SWAP 512MB and it's a SWAP what's it called, -PRIMARY EXT3 / Bootable flag on?
[03:02] <the> ohh
[03:02] <the> k
[03:02] <Managu-Away> !tell the about patience
[03:02] <SurfnKid> um ok
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> How do you know?
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> Oh
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> I see what you mean :P
[03:02] <the> what is a repository list???
[03:03] <Maytag> Can I use the live cd of 5.01 to dl and burn a full install cd for a clean hd?
[03:03] <Red-Sox> Maytag> Not really
[03:03] <skippy81> Red-Sox, that setup is fine and yes you want the desktop iso, pick the correct one for your processor
[03:03] <Maytag> Shit, really?
[03:03] <planetcall> the, it is the godown of softwares for your OS
[03:03] <spikeb> Maytag: if you have more than one cd drive
[03:03] <SurfnKid> http://<IP_ADDRESS> try it
[03:03] <Red-Sox> skippy81> 64 bit baby
[03:03] <hangfire> go to system>adminstration>synaptic package manager
[03:03] <skippy81> same here :)
[03:03] <Maytag> Okay, thanks.
[03:03] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Will it use both processors?  (Dual Core)
[03:04] <the> WHAT IS A GODOWN???
[03:04] <skippy81> bear in mind though Red-Sox, that 64bit linux is harder to set stuff up with
[03:04] <nalioth> the: dosemu is available in the repos, no need to compile it
[03:04] <Red-Sox> skippy81> If you mean no flash and stuff, I'll live
[03:04] <the> k
[03:04] <skippy81> i think to use dual cores you might need a custum kernel, but im not sure
[03:04] <whiter> skippy i figured out how to change the icon
[03:04] <Masqy> thanks, now I know that my DNS is down... actually my ISPs DNS keeps dying on almost a regualr basis lately..
[03:04] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Speed over ease of use for me
[03:04] <the> so should i use sypnaptic??
[03:04] <whiter> start-here.svg = the icon
[03:04] <hangfire> yes
[03:04] <SurfnKid> no probs masqy
[03:04] <the> k
[03:04] <Healot> the: no use adept :)
[03:04] <planetcall> skippy81, NF4  did you see KTorrent ?
[03:04] <Red-Sox> igt bbiab
[03:04] <skippy81> i think you need to enable smp in the kernel, but there will be pleanty of guides
[03:04] <SurfnKid> get your own DNS so u can bypass it
[03:05] <NF4> no i havent seen that
[03:05] <NF4> is it for kde? I asumed tha all programs that start with k are for kde
[03:05] <seek> eh.  I bought a Bytecc USB HD enclosure.  It's horrible.  I even flashed the firmware and it still only recognizes 128GB
[03:05] <skippy81> planetcall: nope im currently using azureus, i havnt tried ktorrent yet but i know its very popular
[03:05] <nalioth> skippy81: no need for that at all
[03:05] <seek> This is in Windows and Linux
[03:05] <planetcall> Yeah but whats the problem ? You can use it the same way on Gnome
[03:06] <planetcall> KTorrent seems promising I am going for it now on my Gnome
[03:06] <skippy81> planetcall im going to try ktorrent out now, ill let you know if it works :)
[03:06] <planetcall> :)
[03:06] <NF4> oh you can
[03:06] <NF4> I didnt know that k programs ran under gnome
[03:07] <planetcall> ZoomCities, Stop spamming about your crappy hosting services !
[03:07] <SurfnKid> I put shortcuts on my different desktops, i created 8. from F9 to F12 and then SHFT+F9 to F12 they rock
[03:07] <planetcall> mods ! ban him please
[03:07] <skippy81> whiter:  thanks mate, im looking into it now
[03:07] <gui> totem is using the xine plugin, but xine itself has a better DVD playback! how's that possible?
[03:07] <SurfnKid> ZoomCities no thanks, maybe some other time, perhaps my neighbor, want his number?
[03:08] <Healot> xine rocks, gui?
[03:08] <NF4> qtorrent is in synaptic
[03:08] <Beforewisdom> Is there a flash 8 for linux?  Everytime I go to macromedia it keeps grying to gie me flash 7
[03:08] <skippy81> i cant see ZoomCities posts for some reason
[03:08] <whiter> skippy i think the icon has to be svg
[03:08] <Healot> Beforewisdom: NO, an absolute NO for now...
[03:08] <whiter> so youre going to need to install gimp-svg, then export your icon file to an svg then you can use it
[03:08] <Beforewisdom> Thanks healot
[03:09] <twobitsprite> why can't I seem to open mp3s in rhythmbox? It says file is not an audio stream
[03:09] <skippy81> ok cool, ill download it now
[03:09] <Beforewisdom> So adobe is going to make a 9 for linux but forget about 8 altogether?
[03:09] <skippy81> im tempted to see if i can somehow extract the old svg icon from my dapper cd :D
[03:09] <tomek_> is synaptic specific for ubuntu or is it present in other linux flavors? its a wonderful tool, and you dont have to restart!
[03:09] <gui> Healot: seems to be very good :P xine vs Mplayer, who wins?
[03:09] <skippy81> Beforewisdom:  yes that is what i heard, straight to version 9
[03:09] <rossalee> hello everyone
[03:10] <skippy81> g'day
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> There is a lot of cool stuff that requires flash 8.....is there a substitute?
[03:10] <twobitsprite> do I need to install codecs or something?
[03:10] <Healot> gui: can't say on behalf of that...
[03:10] <maikol> does one have to restart after installing a new package?
[03:10] <skippy81> Beforewisdom:  yes, you could install a windows browser in wine i believe
[03:10] <DanielX> Good evening, everyone
[03:10] <SurfnKid> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <Red-Sox> i'm listening to Roper with Amplify since 02:13
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> mailkol......no, that is a windows thing
[03:10] <skippy81> but IMO with flash your not missing much  :D
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> thanks skipp81
[03:10] <SurfnKid> twobitsprite read that article about RestrictedFormats i think that might help
[03:11] <Beforewisdom> well ABC has streaming television that requires flash 8
[03:11] <gui> xine vs Mplayer, who wins?
[03:11] <Beforewisdom> and the videos on google video look like crap in flash 7
[03:11] <skippy81> Mplayer wins over xine
[03:11] <maikol> Beforewisdom, would you know, then, why all the new files i just installed have a ".dpkg-new" on the end of their file names
[03:11] <rossalee> i think mplayer is better
[03:11] <skippy81> but VLC player is really good, worth trying it
[03:11] <Healot> both GTK+ player sucks
[03:12] <skippy81> unfortunately i dont seem to be able to make VLC stick to just a single instance
[03:12] <Healot> VLC has excellent choice of toolkit and en/decoders
[03:12] <skippy81> but other than that VLC is the best i think
[03:12] <satan> hello all, does anyone know of a dvd-shrink like program for linux? i dont wanna convert to divx, just backup to a 4.7 dvdr
[03:12] <DanielX> I'm trying to boot off Dapper Drake on a grey G3.. holding the c key down, and damn thing keeps going right by
[03:12] <skippy81> its by far the best windows media player
[03:12] <planetcall> I use VLC on Windows as well ! It rocks everywhere
[03:12] <skippy81> yeah the VLC team have done an amazing job
[03:12] <skippy81> its such a versitile piece of software
[03:13] <kholerabbi> How do I tell what gnome version I have??
[03:13] <skippy81> system > about gnome
[03:13] <tomek_> y'all using Xchat here?
[03:13] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[03:13] <skippy81> tomek_:  yes i am using xchat
[03:14] <DanielX> Anyone familiar with the Mac distribution?
[03:14] <skippy81> i actaully only got into IRC since i started using linux a lot
[03:14] <Healot> DanielX: problem with Ya!boot?
[03:14] <kholerabbi> thanks
[03:14] <DanielX> Healot : not yabooting at all ;)
[03:14] <DanielX> it goes right into os 9.2
[03:14] <Healot> DanielX: what's your CPU?
[03:15] <Healot> is it a G4 at least?
[03:15] <DanielX> it's a grey g3
[03:15] <soares> ola
[03:15] <DanielX> oh, darn. i see it has 96 megs of ram. not enough, is it? i think i read 192 required?
[03:15] <Healot> oh... i see DanielX, G4++ only i guess
[03:16] <Beforewisdom> Im excited about the new ubuntu next week.  Any big user visible "wow!" features coming out in it?
[03:16] <crimsun> Beforewisdom: s/next week/thursday/
[03:16] <Healot> RAM... might be... but it should boot in text mode, even with 64MB
[03:16] <DanielX> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ says g3 included
[03:16] <Beforewisdom> cool
[03:17] <Beforewisdom> thanks
[03:17] <DanielX> I hold the " c " key, which should make the mac boot off the cd
[03:17] <tomek_> how many of you are from Europe? Anybody?
[03:17] <Healot> DanielX: I really recommend g4 or above, since I have a dual g4, i don't have experience on old Mac CPUs
[03:17] <macsim> hi, any opensource UML modeling software for ubuntu ?
[03:17] <planetcall> Not all Windows software have better alternatives on linux. I really miss AIRoboform. Anyone using better password manager on ubuntu ? probaby with firefox.
[03:18] <Beforewisdom> My grand parents were from Europe, does that count?
[03:18] <tomek_> before: nope :(
[03:18] <DanielX> Healot : ok.. if a g4 comes my way, i'll give it a try. Thanks
[03:18] <DarkTower> planetcall, thats a subjective opinions, i use revelation, and its much better than anything ive used in windows
[03:18] <skippy81> tomek_:  i am from near London, if that counts as Europe :)
[03:18] <Healot> DanielX: in the mean time, try to add more RAM...
[03:19] <disinterested_pe> is anyone else having more fun with ubuntu than windows lol
[03:19] <tomek_> skippy: that surely counts!
[03:19] <skippy81> :)
[03:19] <planetcall> macsim,  there is something like umbrello or some similar name. Try synaptic search
[03:19] <NF4> I just wish I could get superpi to work properly
[03:19] <planetcall> macsim  yes it is umbrello
[03:20] <macsim> planetcall: yes but it's kde application :/
[03:20] <DanielX> I will.
[03:20] <NigelS> tomek_: europe too
[03:20] <tomek_> skippy:you gonna miss work tomorrow :)
[03:20] <DanielX> Good night, everyone
[03:20] <skippy81> hehe im a student, i dont work :D
[03:20] <planetcall> it doesnt matter. It lists in Gnome Applications.
[03:20] <tomek_> skippy: good for you, worse for me :))
[03:20] <planetcall> See Applications > Add Application > Programming
[03:21] <NF4> I havent used windows in two years
[03:21] <NF4> and that was just to help my mom
[03:21] <planetcall> I have used it on Gnome.   It doesnt matter if software is labeled KDE, it runs the same on Gnome.
[03:21] <kapputu> where do I change the DNS settings in GNOME?
[03:21] <planetcall> sane a few rare of them
[03:21] <tomek_> NF-4: do you miss it?
[03:21] <HillTop> disinterested_pe, I replaced Win98 with Ubuntu this month. It is a P450 with 256MB Ram, 18GB HD and runs quite nicely with Ubuntu 5.10. I'm checking Xubuntu livecd on it right now. I expect when 6.06 arrives, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu will all make a nice home there.
[03:22] <NF4> I miss BSOD's
[03:22] <NF4> those were always fun
[03:22] <Healot> NF4: My Windows XP has no BSOD or whatever since it runs 2 years ago
[03:22] <NF4> and trying to track down the right DLL
[03:22] <DarkTower> NF4: lol. I've put them behind me and moved on
[03:22] <macsim> planetcall: I can do it with dia ;) ok thanks for all
[03:23] <DarkTower> NF4: Please dont mention Dlls, i just popped a vessel
[03:23] <HillTop> disinterested_pe, I expect with KDE, GNOME and XFce all installed one can boot into any of the three.
[03:23] <NF4> I used to enjoy  using avg becouse they updated ther .dat files like twice a day
[03:23] <kapputu> where do I change the DNS settings?
[03:23] <tomek_> NF4: well, I miss so much... I miss mi first brand new 286 when I was 14... still here, covered with dust...
[03:23] <maikol> how do i get back into gnome from an alt-control-f1 shell
[03:23] <gavin> hey guys... i am trying to get glibc installed but its not in synaptic.
[03:23] <macsim> kapputu: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:23] <DarkTower> kapputu: go to System->Admin->Network Settings
[03:24] <NigelS> maikol: ctrl-alt-f7
[03:24] <maikol> thanks
[03:24] <Managu-Away> gavin: why do you think you need glibc?