[12:02] <tiagoscd> hi :)
[12:04] <cyphermox> o/
[12:04] <julian_fern> Hello :)
[12:04] <Destine> hi.
[12:04] <tiagoscd> o/
[12:05] <tiagoscd> membership board now?
[12:05] <cyphermox> we're all around, won't be long
[12:06] <tiagoscd> cyphermox: :)
[12:07] <head_victim> #startmeeting
[12:07] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 26 12:07:12 2012 UTC.  The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[12:08] <head_victim> #voters cyphermox Destine Pendulum head_victim
[12:08] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine Pendulum cyphermox head_victim
[12:09] <head_victim> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 1200 UTC 26th September 2012. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[12:09] <head_victim> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[12:09] <head_victim> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[12:09] <head_victim> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[12:09] <head_victim> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[12:09] <head_victim> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[12:09] <head_victim> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[12:10] <head_victim> Wow, that looks big all at once
[12:10] <head_victim> Anyway
[12:10] <head_victim> #topic Julian Fernandes Ubuntu Membership Application
[12:10] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[12:11] <head_victim> julian_fern: while we read up on your application can you please introduce yourself to the board
[12:11] <julian_fern> Hello :)
[12:11] <julian_fern> My name is Julian Fernandes
[12:11] <julian_fern> i'm a 20 years old Brazilian WordPress consultant and a LoCo Team leader
[12:12] <julian_fern> I also work with Nginx and WordPress optimization on Ubuntu Servers
[12:12] <julian_fern> Talking about myself isn't my strong point, so i think my wiki page says it all :)
[12:12] <julian_fern> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/julianfernandes
[12:13] <tiagoscd> I just like to say that julian_fern has done a great job in Brazil, helping many users, writing posts about Ubuntu, speaking in conferences
[12:13] <Ursinha> he's just too humble to talk about what all he's been doing :)
[12:13]  * Ursinha is cheering for julian_fern
[12:13] <tiagoscd> he keeps a hard and daily work to support Ubuntu Brazilian community
[12:13] <tiagoscd> as Ubuntu Brazilian Communiyt Council member I strongly endorse his membership
[12:14] <head_victim> julian_fern: sounds like you have quite the following
[12:14] <Destine> head_victim, indeed
[12:14] <head_victim> Are there any details of the events mentioned under contributions (links to event writeups, photos, etc, stuff we can get a feel for the scale of)
[12:15] <julian_fern> head_victim: yeah, the friendships i made when i joined the Ubuntu community are great :)
[12:15] <julian_fern> hmmm
[12:15] <julian_fern> i think we have some photos at our G+ page
[12:15] <head_victim> julian_fern: the community is what drew me in as well :)
[12:16] <julian_fern> This is the Latinoware page, the event i'm gonna attend next month: http://2012.latinoware.org/?lang=en
[12:17] <julian_fern> I will talk about WordPress optimization with Ubuntu Server and the future of gaming on Linux
[12:17] <julian_fern> i will also be there with Ubuntu-BR, helping users to install Ubuntu and clearing doubts they may have
[12:17] <tiagoscd> head_victim: in my Picasa you can see some photos about one conference that julian_fern has supported Brazilian community
[12:18] <tiagoscd> https://picasaweb.google.com/103172290858656490894
[12:18] <julian_fern> head_victim: i'm the guy with the bad hair :P
[12:18] <julian_fern> tiagoscd: thanks :)
[12:19] <court_jester> Is good to remember that Latinoware give sponsorship spots for ubuntu members and Julian is the only non member that was approved for sponsorship.
[12:19] <head_victim> tiagoscd: thanks for that, which album are we referring to sorry?
[12:20] <tiagoscd> head_victim: oh sorry, referring about "Ubuntu-BR-SC at Seminário de Ciência e Tecnologia da UDESC" :)
[12:20] <Ursinha> https://plus.google.com/photos/103172290858656490894/albums/5681554703198893201?banner=pwa
[12:21] <julian_fern> There is also some more photos at tiagoscd's blog: http://tiagohillebrandt.eti.br/blog/ubuntu-sc-no-seminario-de-ciencia-e-tecnologia-da-udesc.html
[12:21] <julian_fern> Sadly my blog is offline atm.
[12:21] <head_victim> No worries, I don't even have a blog :)
[12:22] <Ursinha> julian_fern, you
[12:22] <Ursinha> julian_fern, you've been posting a lot to ubuntubrsc.com, it can be considered your blog for now :P
[12:23] <julian_fern> Ursinha: True, but since me and tiagoscd funded it, i think of it as our blog hehe
[12:23] <head_victim> Ok seems we have read a lot of stuff and a we're ready to vote :)
[12:23] <Ursinha> :)
[12:24] <head_victim> #vote Julian Fernandes Ubuntu Membership Application
[12:24] <meetingology> Please vote on: Julian Fernandes Ubuntu Membership Application
[12:24] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[12:24] <head_victim> Please only board members vote (the rest won't be counted)
[12:24] <cyphermox> +1
[12:24] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[12:24] <Destine> +1
[12:24] <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
[12:24] <Pendulum> +1
[12:24] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[12:25] <head_victim> +1 keep up the good work with the BR Team, when you're blog comes back up make sure it gets on the planet
[12:25] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work with the BR Team, when you're blog comes back up make sure it gets on the planet received from head_victim
[12:25] <head_victim> #endvote
[12:25] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Julian Fernandes Ubuntu Membership Application
[12:25] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[12:25] <meetingology> Motion carried
[12:25] <tiagoscd> o/
[12:25] <tiagoscd> congrats julian_fern
[12:25] <julian_fern> :D
[12:25] <Ursinha> \o/
[12:25] <Destine> julian_fern, congrats
[12:25] <Pendulum> julian_fern: Congrats and welcome!
[12:25] <head_victim> #accepted Julian Fernandes is now a Ubuntu Member - Congratulations!
[12:25] <court_jester> Uhul! Congratulations!
[12:26] <julian_fern> Thanks guys! :)
[12:26] <Ursinha> woohoo!
[12:26] <cyphermox> Congrats julian_fern
[12:26] <julian_fern> I will do my best to help Ubuntu more and more :)
[12:26] <tiagoscd> :D
[12:26] <head_victim> julian_fern: well done, your efforts with the Brazil team are commendable. Keep up the great work
[12:27] <Ursinha> julian_fern, if you keep doing the same, we're all fine ;)
[12:27] <Ursinha> thanks for helping us out
[12:28] <court_jester> tiagoscd: Lets write about this in ubuntu-br-sc
[12:28] <head_victim> I don't think there were any other applications tonight
[12:28] <tiagoscd> court_jester: http://tiagohillebrandt.eti.br/blog/julian-fernandes-o-mais-novo-membro-ubuntu-no-brasil.html
[12:28] <tiagoscd> :)
[12:28] <court_jester> lol
[12:28] <court_jester> Fast enough
[12:28] <julian_fern> tiagoscd court_jester ursinha: thanks for the support guys, you are the best! (:
[12:29]  * Ursinha hugs julian_fern
[12:29] <head_victim> Thanks to the supporters, it makes it easier for us to see others providing testimonials for work done :)
[12:29] <Ursinha> julian_fern, the least I could do :)
[12:35] <Destine> julian_fern, you have been added to Ubuntu Members team.
[12:36] <head_victim> #endmeeting
[12:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 26 12:36:25 2012 UTC.
[12:36] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-12.07.moin.txt
[12:36] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-12.07.html
[12:37] <head_victim> Thanks everyone for attending, thanks julian_fern for the application and we'll see everyone again next month.
[12:37] <Destine> head_victim, thanks.
[12:38] <julian_fern> Thank you, head_victim Destine cyphermox Pendulum :)
[12:38] <julian_fern> Bye.
[13:54] <smartboyhw> meeting in 5 minutes where is balloons and phillw?:P
[14:00] <balloons> #startmeeting ubuntu qa community
[14:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 26 14:00:04 2012 UTC.  The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:00] <balloons> howdy everyone.. shall we have a roll call?
[14:00] <smartboyhw> balloons: astraljava is here today to give a heads up I think
[14:00] <smartboyhw> \o
[14:01]  * smartboyhw finds out that phillw is not here....
[14:02] <balloons> well, just us chickens smartboyhw
[14:02] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[14:03] <balloons> k, let's dive into the agenda
[14:03] <balloons> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
[14:04] <balloons> ba
[14:04] <smartboyhw> ba?
[14:04] <balloons> my browser is continually crashing
[14:04]  * astraljava is actually here, but only with an announcement
[14:04] <smartboyhw> astraljava, OK
[14:04]  * smartboyhw patts balloons in the back for that
[14:05] <balloons> Well, the only previous action is the website updates on my end anyway
[14:05] <balloons> and there's still nothing to report yet.. I have to do the theme change and push it up
[14:05] <smartboyhw> Eee that is bad
[14:05] <balloons> #action balloons to push up new theme for qa.ubuntu.com
[14:05] <meetingology> ACTION: balloons to push up new theme for qa.ubuntu.com
[14:05] <smartboyhw> That action is on for a MONTH!
[14:06] <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates
[14:06]  * smartboyhw wonders what announcement astraljava is gonna make;P
[14:06] <balloons> I'll keep this quick for ubuntu, given it's beta2 time :-)
[14:06] <smartboyhw> ;-)
[14:06] <balloons> beta2 and unity testing is underway
[14:07] <balloons> it's the primary focus of the week
[14:07] <balloons> in addition, the testcases work is still on-going. I converted all of the isotracker tests over to the new css yesterday
[14:07] <balloons> the package tracker tests will have to also be converted
[14:08] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:08] <balloons> there's still some ubiquity installer options that need to be added to the testcases as well
[14:08] <balloons> all coming
[14:08] <balloons> the surprise unity testing pushed us all back a day
[14:08] <balloons> questions?
[14:08]  * smartboyhw says no:P
[14:08] <balloons> you can see the progress here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[14:08] <balloons> [TOPIC] Other Updates
[14:09] <balloons> ok, astraljava your up first :-)
[14:09]  * smartboyhw fears that announcement won't be good:(
[14:10] <astraljava> Alright, so I've decided to make some changes in my personal life. This means I'm going to reduce heavily my time spent on contributing to *buntu.
[14:10] <astraljava> Thus I've decided to give out my positions in QA on Studio and Xubuntu.
[14:11] <astraljava> smartboyhw already volunteered as a contact person for Studio, and we're having a meeting with Xubuntu contributors in less than an hour.
[14:11] <astraljava> I'm sure someone will step forward there.
[14:11] <astraljava> I'd like to see this effective immediately.
[14:11] <balloons> astraljava, well, thank you for all of your hard work :-)
[14:12]  * smartboyhw thanks astraljava and bows at him
[14:12] <astraljava> But I can hang out here for as long as the new people feel needed.
[14:12] <astraljava> Thanks guys, it's been a pleasure to work with such awesome bunch of people! :)
[14:12] <astraljava> ..
[14:13] <balloons> I wish you all the best.. I'll meet whomever the new face is on the xubuntu side
[14:13] <astraljava> Thanks. I'm not completely going away from the community, so I'd expect to stumble upon you occasionally. :)
[14:14] <astraljava> Shifting priorities, moving more towards development, the kind that aren't that dependant on the schedules of releases.
[14:14] <astraljava> It'll release a lot of daily time for other tasks.
[14:14] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:14] <balloons> astraljava, well,  hope the time and effort learned while in QA helps you out.. and Good luck of course. Stop by and say hi and show off what your up to at some point :-)
[14:15]  * smartboyhw bows yo astraljava again
[14:15] <smartboyhw> *to
[14:15] <balloons> Alrighty, anyone else?
[14:16]  * smartboyhw has no questions today pretty weird so balloons should end meeting
[14:16] <balloons> #endmeeting
[14:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 26 14:16:31 2012 UTC.
[14:16] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-14.00.moin.txt
[14:16] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-14.00.html
[14:16] <balloons> I can run with that
[14:16] <balloons> hahah!
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Thx balloons and astraljava
[14:16]  * smartboyhw feels sad
[14:17] <astraljava> Thanks balloons for everything, yeah I've definitely learnt lots, and those things will surely come handy whenever I work on *buntu stuff.
[14:17]  * smartboyhw adds oil on astraljava
[14:17] <smartboyhw> add oil = give support
[14:17] <astraljava> Okay, I was worried for a moment there. :)
[14:17] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:18] <balloons> it's just a new beginning for astraljava .. I'm very excited for you.
[14:18] <balloons> QA is a bit of a gateway drug honestly :-)
[14:18] <balloons> you can find yourself going down all sorts of rabbit holes
[14:18] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:18] <balloons> time to fix the browser
[14:18] <balloons> brb
[14:19] <smartboyhw> cya
[14:19] <smartboyhw> astraljava, want a chat with you. PM?
[14:20] <astraljava> balloons: Thanks. You may hear of me, or more like the products of these new tasks I'm going to undertake, in the future.
[14:20] <astraljava> smartboyhw: Sure, gimme 5.
[14:20] <smartboyhw> 5!
[14:21]  * balloons high fives smartboyhw
[14:21]  * smartboyhw high fives balloons lol
[15:00]  * xnox 0/
[15:00] <stokachu> o//////
[15:01] <jodh> o/
[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <stokachu> (> " )><( " )><( " <)
[15:01]  * ogra_ shores
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[15:02] <slangasek> doko slangasek barry xnox infinity jodh ogra stgraber cjwatson ev bdmurray stokachu
[15:02] <slangasek> er, maybe I should start the meeting first ;)
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 26 15:02:22 2012 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
[15:02] <slangasek> sorry, caffeine not quite diffused into the bloodstream yet this morning
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[15:02] <slangasek> doko slangasek barry xnox infinity jodh ogra stgraber cjwatson ev bdmurray stokachu
[15:03] <doko> - look at webkit-1.91 build failure, not a binutils issue, > 4G archive not supported (never was). needs webkit buildsystem changes
[15:03] <doko> - investigate qt4-x11 ftbfs on arm* over the weekend. buildd issue, swapping to death. builds locally, so there must be extra load on the buildd.
[15:03] <doko> - start quantal test rebuild
[15:03] <doko> - fix or delegate ftbfs in main, now almost done, although the ftbfs pages don't show progress (unapproved and proposed not shown)
[15:03] <doko> - not yet addressed in main: genshi, git, libgtk2-perl, mksh, feedparser (libxml2 issue), ubuntuone-client
[15:03] <doko> - fix ftbfs in package sets (almost done)
[15:03] <doko> - again, followup on MIRs, and component mismatches, seeded restricted components
[15:03] <doko> - package libvigraimpex 1.8 to fix ftbfs (just two rdeps, so upgrade should be fine, tested).
[15:03] <doko> - fix binutils bfd.h header inclusion, seen in package test rebuilds
[15:03] <doko> - remove the va_list info/warning on arm, accepted upstream and put in gcc-4.7
[15:03] <doko> - fix python2.7 regression (please accept into -proposed, so that it can build)
[15:03] <doko> - libjpeg-turbo update to 1.2.1
[15:03] <doko> - gcc-4.7.2 release packages
[15:03] <doko> - python3.3 rc3 packages
[15:03] <doko> (done)
[15:04] <slangasek> - short week(s), vacation last week and now playing catch-up
[15:04] <slangasek> - working on XDG_RUNTIME_DIR which has unfortunately still not landed; have had a few false starts with the necessary pam module
[15:04] <slangasek> - working on getting UEFI SecureBoot shim support landed
[15:05] <slangasek> - uploaded a more-asynchronous mountall to Debian unstable that fixes some problems in cloud init, and seems to hold together for the rest of us - and might even make boot faster. testing welcome, I'll be asking for this in quantal post-beta and pushing for a precise SRU
[15:06] <slangasek> (done)
[15:06] <xnox> * ubiquity:
[15:06] <xnox>  - adv-crypto reviewed and uploaded, bug 1042649
[15:06] <xnox>  - ubiquity ValueError bug reviewed and uploaded into quantal,
[15:06] <xnox>  bug 792652 and bug 1027648 (this is the top crasher on errors.ubuntu.com
[15:06] <xnox>  and since the upload there were no instances of it in quantal).
[15:06] <xnox>  - fix a few bugs reported during milestone testing of adv-crypto. bug 1055640,\
[15:06] <xnox>  bug 1055819, bug 1055815
[15:06] <xnox>  - progressing with adv-lvm
[15:06] <xnox>  - did ~1h of patch piloting, report pending and further piloting
[15:06] <xnox>  rescheduled for the end of the week
[15:06] <xnox> * raid:
[15:06] <xnox>  - ongoing discussion on dmraid -> mdadm migration for Intel Raid (see
[15:06] <xnox>  mdadm bug reports on launchpad)
[15:07] <barry> um...
[15:07] <xnox> (the precise tasks for value error are commited in the branch, thanks cjwatson for cherry-pick, and will be part of 12.04.2)
[15:07] <stokachu> lol
[15:07] <xnox> barry, sorry.....
[15:07] <barry> no worries, mine is short and boring anyway :)
[15:07] <barry> xnox: go ahead and finish
[15:07] <xnox> barry: go head. done.
[15:07] <barry> bug 1055581; python issue 15935 (argparse follow up); gwibber py3 port (i know, i know, we actually are nearing the end). done.
[15:08] <jodh> * upstart:
[15:08] <jodh>   - Wrote a stack of new unit tests (30 since last week) which have
[15:08] <jodh>     already found a few issues.
[15:08] <jodh>   - Currently investigating bridge restart and a suspected memory
[15:08] <barry> also submitted the fix for that upstream
[15:08] <jodh>     corruption issue.
[15:08] <jodh> ᚅ
[15:08] <stokachu> is that a table?
[15:08] <ogra_> done:
[15:08] <ogra_>  * parts of the wiki updates for arm installations
[15:08] <ogra_>  * d-i framebuffer issue on arm server installs is fixed
[15:08] <ogra_>  * fixed various flash-kernel bugs (i.e. bug 1055938 )
[15:08] <ogra_>  * beta2 preparation and testing
[15:08] <ogra_>  * some zatab (allwinner) spare time hacking (would like to have a hand rolled image ready before UDS)
[15:08] <ogra_> todo:
[15:08] <ogra_>  * finish wikipage changes
[15:08] <ogra_>  * research partition resizing issues on panda installs (bug 1056410)
[15:08] <ogra_>  * fix flash-kernel ability to manually force a kernel version for manual downgrades (bug 1056206)
[15:08] <ogra_>  * check what we can do for panda bootspeed
[15:09] <ogra_>  * research input issues with d-i installs on panda (bug 1028664)
[15:09] <ogra_>  * bug 1028905
[15:09] <ogra_>  * and bug 984276 (that somehow fell off my radar but is back on my TODO now)
[15:09] <ogra_> ..
[15:09] <jodh> stokachu: yeah, it's the bro' of ᚘ
[15:09] <stokachu> lol nice
[15:09] <stgraber>  - ISO tracker
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Got the new version landed in production in time for beta2.
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Container
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Upstream work, reviewing patches, maintaining staging branch
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Ported a few scripts to using the python API instead of wrapping the commands
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Release
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Did some last minute fixes in Edubuntu to revert the shopping lens and the new launchers
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Reviewed a few FFe
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Doing beta2 testing
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Networking
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Bloged about IPv4/IPv6 dual-stack setup on 3G (http://www.stgraber.org/2012/09/24/dual-stack-3g-connections/)
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Uploaded an isc-dhcp SRU to precise.
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Started looking into unbound/bind9 support in NetworkManager as potential DNSSEC-aware replacement for dnsmasq.
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Installer
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Fixed a bug in one of the thml file preventing the generation of pot files for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu. Manually imported the new ones in LP.
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Other
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Switched to using sssd and samba4 for my machines, fixed an apparmor profile bug found as a result.
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Cleaned up workitem list quite a bit
[15:10] <stgraber>  - TODO
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Start looking at foundations-q-autocreate-preseed
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Some ISO tracker tweaks/bugfixes for final
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Next week
[15:10] <stgraber>    - I'll be at the usual LTSP hackfest down in Maine from Thursday to Sunday, traveling down there on Thursday so will have limited connectivity on that day.
[15:10] <stgraber>      When not traveling, I should be reachable on IRC and by e-mail, possibly on my VOIP number, however don't count on my cell, GSM is quite bad in that area.
[15:10] <stgraber>      So, if you have anything that needs a significant amount of my time, please try to catch me early next week.
[15:10] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:11] <slangasek> barry: so is the argparse saga at an end now?
[15:11] <barry> slangasek: i hope so ;)
[15:11] <barry> it was definitely a regression, now fixed in all upstream active branches
[15:12] <xnox> jodh: utfout package is in debian new queue =)
[15:12] <jodh> xnox: great! Thanks for your help with that!!!
[15:15] <cjwatson> whoops, my turn, sorry
[15:15] <cjwatson> Removed cdromupgrade from server CDs (bug 1045201).
[15:15] <cjwatson> Merged automake1.11 security fix.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Finished and landed LP process-accepted-bugs-job branch.  This now seems to be working fine, so we can kill off the old queue script after beta-2.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Swtched to the new archive signing key.  Uploaded an ubuntu-keyring SRU as a consequence, pending review.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Fixed regression from last week's grub-installer merge.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Arranged for d-i rescue mode to offer to mount a separate /boot (bug 320183, bug 1045409).
[15:15] <cjwatson> Co-announced new plan to use GRUB 2 for UEFI secure boot, and uploaded (mostly) suitable packaging.  Created a grub2-signed package.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Fixed the remaining LP UEFI publishing bugs, allowing us to stage signed UEFI images in PPAs.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Applied yaboot-installer patch from bug 956481.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Fixed missing SUBARCH in live-installer.postinst which broke ARM (bug 1054143).
[15:15] <cjwatson> Fixed missing /sys bind-mount in grub-installer, a long-standing bug exposed by GRUB 2.00 (bug 1054323).
[15:15] <cjwatson> Verified my apt extra-override-handling SRU from a while back.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Investigating d-i lowmem thresholds (bug 1050595).
[15:15] <cjwatson> ..
[15:15] <cjwatson> jodh: yay Ogham
[15:17] <slangasek> I did not recognize it as ogham, until I turned my head sideways
[15:17] <slangasek> ev:
[15:17] <jodh> cjwatson: :)
[15:17] <ev> - Short week; narrow boating on Friday and Monday.
[15:17] <ev> - More research on top-k for arbitrary date ranges. We have a reasonable
[15:17] <ev>   solution, but I may implmenet something simplier just so we have a solution
[15:17] <ev>   to the failing to load year view a bit sooner.
[15:17] <ev> - Learning a lot more of D3.js to implement Matthew's errors.ubuntu.com front
[15:17] <ev>   page redesign and milestone lines on the average errors per day graph. Now
[15:17] <ev>   implemented, though I still need to file a RT for the deployment.
[15:17] <ev> - Implemented part of the reprocessing failed retraces work, as Seb
[15:17] <ev>   potentially needs it and I've been putting it off for too long :). Once
[15:17] <ev>   deployed (RT 56342) we'll be able to selectively run stacktrace address
[15:17] <ev>   signatures back through the retracing and bucketing process.
[15:17] <ev> - Starting to piece together a presentation with Matthew for UDS.
[15:17] <ev> (done)
[15:18] <bdmurray> bug triage and testing of iso-testing bug reports
[15:18] <bdmurray> update-manager, usb-creator bug triage
[15:18] <bdmurray> finding duplicates of grub-installer bug 1053317
[15:18] <bdmurray> fixed bug 1043725
[15:18] <bdmurray> discussion of bug 1039220
[15:18] <bdmurray> tested bug 938869
[15:18] <bdmurray> worked on fixing bug 1039484
[15:18] <bdmurray> tested and fixed apport bug patterns with python2
[15:18] <bdmurray> setup a quantal iso-testing report using arsenal
[15:19] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:19] <stokachu> http://pad.lv/1013211 - needs sponsor
[15:19] <stokachu> http://pad.lv/977959 - comment updated, needs (precise) sponsor
[15:19] <stokachu> http://pad.lv/1036834 - needs sponsor
[15:19] <stokachu> http://pad.lv/794112 - needs sponsor
[15:19] <stokachu> http://pad.lv/683640 - needs sponsor
[15:19] <stokachu> done
[15:19] <doko> bdmurray, will apport get support for env vars?
[15:19] <bdmurray> doko: yes, I'll work on that
[15:19] <doko> cool
[15:21] <doko> stokachu, libgnome ma for q?
[15:21] <stokachu> doko, yea thats been pushed i think
[15:22] <stokachu> there was some discussion on a comment i made but hopefully cleared up
[15:22] <doko> I'll look at the ma issues tomorrow.
[15:22] <stokachu> ok cool thanks
[15:23] <slangasek> stokachu: 1013211, 1036834 on my list here; 977959, I suppose I should take as well.  wasn't there another one that I kicked back to you for further changes?
[15:23] <stokachu> yea appmenu-gtk
[15:23] <stokachu> working on that one this week
[15:23] <slangasek> ok, cool
[15:24] <slangasek> doko: oh, feel free to take care of the ma upload sponsorship then, happy to have them off my list :)
[15:24] <slangasek> any other questions on the above?
[15:24] <stokachu> the other non ma are released in quantal for the most part
[15:24] <stokachu> i think
[15:24] <xnox> I also saw bug 1052039 and bug 1052030
[15:25] <stokachu> thats a new one
[15:25] <stokachu> ill take that one
[15:25] <stokachu> will someone approve the series nomination please
[15:25] <xnox> well.... they have patches they need sponsors.
[15:25] <xnox> stokachu: is that for both quantal & precise?
[15:26] <stokachu> xnox, i spoke with mark already he has changes to make on the patches
[15:26] <doko> openjdk wants libgnome2-0, libgnomevfs2-0, libgconf2-4, so these would be appreciated
[15:26] <stokachu> doko, any bugs opened on those?
[15:26] <doko> no
[15:26] <stokachu> libgconf hasn't been ma'd
[15:26] <stokachu> the other 2 are
[15:28] <stokachu> ill add libgconf to my todo list
[15:28] <doko> thanks
[15:29] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:29] <slangasek> bdmurray: how do things look for us?
[15:30] <bdmurray> well the rls-q- queues seem to have grown a lot
[15:30] <bdmurray> so daunting?
[15:31] <slangasek> queues plural - meaning for all teams, not just ours?
[15:31] <bdmurray> plural as in -incoming and -tracking
[15:31] <slangasek> ok
[15:31] <cjwatson> I rejected some of -incoming last week and pushed the rest into -tracking
[15:31] <cjwatson> I think most of the -tracking growth is from that
[15:31] <slangasek> tracking had seemed reasonably under control before I left... ah, cjwatson strikes ;)
[15:32] <doko> filed some main ftbfs as release relevant too
[15:32] <cjwatson> Recent -incoming growth is mostly just expected ISO testing input
[15:32] <slangasek> can we farm some of those bugs out here?
[15:32] <cjwatson> slangasek: -incoming had got up to 15-20 or so by last meeting
[15:32] <cjwatson> Couldn't reject them all :)
[15:33] <bdmurray> regarding the incoming I was only able to recreate bug 1055326 in ubiquity only mode
[15:33] <slangasek> I think we should turf bug #1017031; I suspect it was a transitional issue around the time we were making changes to dpkg
[15:33] <slangasek> if it were a real problem, there'd be a lot more noise on it
[15:34] <bdmurray> slangasek: is there anything I could search for re 1017031?
[15:34] <slangasek> bdmurray: do you agree with that assessment?  or should we be checking for duplicates somewhere before turfing that?
[15:34] <slangasek> bdmurray: right - it'd be the "duplicate file trigger interest for filename" string
[15:35] <stokachu> slangasek, is gconf ma'd completely now?
[15:35] <stokachu> im looking through the changelog
[15:35] <bdmurray> okay, I'll look around and turf if I don't find anything
[15:36] <cjwatson> I've asked for retesting of bug 699802
[15:37] <cjwatson> (Though I suspect it has been dogpiled)
[15:37] <slangasek> stokachu: gconf certainly should be completely MA
[15:37] <stokachu> but not libgconf
[15:37] <slangasek> bdmurray: alright; I'm going to pre-emptively close the bug since I think it's invalid, if you find more hits please reopen
[15:38] <slangasek> stokachu: sure it is
[15:39] <stokachu> ok.. hmm doko, what problems are being faced with openjdk?
[15:40] <doko> basically running downloaded aps which have i386 only on amd64
[15:40] <slangasek> stokachu: I suspect he just hasn't tested whether gconf is multiarched?
[15:40] <doko> no, I hadn't =)
[15:40] <stokachu> ah
[15:41] <slangasek> bug #987212
[15:41] <stokachu> doko, in that case gconf is done and the other two are either in quantal and making there way into precise
[15:41] <slangasek> not sure this should be on our list; probably needs to be -notfixing'ed
[15:41] <doko> nice
[15:41] <stokachu> or waiting for sponsorship
[15:41] <cjwatson> Bug 1048584 isn't really ours, but I'll fix it anyway
[15:42] <stokachu> sorry i was confused there for a minute
[15:42] <slangasek> bdmurray, cjwatson: either of you think we shouldn't turf 987212?  I think it's on our list per the SRU targeting process, not due to an explicit -incoming accept
[15:43] <bdmurray> slangasek: agreed
[15:43] <slangasek> ogra_: should bug #1028905 be assigned to you?
[15:43] <slangasek> (you mentioned it in your report)
[15:44] <cjwatson> slangasek: I agree
[15:44] <ogra_> oh,m i thought i assigned it already
[15:44] <slangasek> ogra_: assigned now :)
[15:44] <ogra_> done
[15:44] <ogra_> bah, *snap* :)
[15:45] <slangasek> bug #1030278 - fun
[15:45] <slangasek> jodh: ^^ can I give this one to you?
[15:45] <jodh> slangasek: no probs
[15:46] <cjwatson> Yeah - googling was vaguely helpful for that but not enough to produce a clear fix
[15:46] <cjwatson> juliank might be helpful if you can find him on IRC
[15:46]  * slangasek learns that foundations owns git ;)
[15:47] <xnox> slangasek: no, just git-svn =))))
[15:47] <slangasek> doko: does bug #1056728 cause the package to fail to build?
[15:47] <doko> yes
[15:48] <doko> jnieder did propose a patch to just disable these tests, he did give up extracting all the commits
[15:48] <stokachu> the internet is stupid
[15:48] <slangasek> doko: what's the "4.12" version you mention?  git is currently at version <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:49] <doko> ?
[15:49] <slangasek> doko: from the bug description - you said "either disable the failing test (?), backport the the subversion 1.7.x support, or update to 4.12."
[15:49] <slangasek> I don't know what 4.12 is
[15:50] <slangasek> 1.7.12, maybe?
[15:50] <doko> yes
[15:50] <doko> <IP_ADDRESS> even
[15:50] <slangasek> ok
[15:51] <slangasek> looks like there are a bunch of package build failures on this list
[15:51] <slangasek> please jump in and help out with these, guys
[15:51] <slangasek> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[15:51] <slangasek> (for reference)
[15:52] <cjwatson> Yep.  I know what I'm doing for the rest of the week ;-)
[15:53] <stokachu> sorry how do you tell whats failing to buidl on this link?
[15:53] <slangasek> bug #1054346 - looks like there's a related branch.  Does Dylan have upload rights on ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu?
[15:53] <cjwatson> stokachu: search for ftbfs
[15:53] <stokachu> ah ok thanks
[15:53] <slangasek> stokachu: the bugs that have "FTBFS" or "build" in their description, roughly
[15:54] <xnox> slangasek: i think that will go in after beta2 is released.
[15:54] <cjwatson> stgraber said he was going to sponsor u-s-u, I think
[15:54] <stgraber> yep
[15:54] <slangasek> ok, assigning
[15:55] <slangasek> that's probably enough about bugs for now
[15:55] <slangasek> I think -
[15:55] <slangasek> bdmurray: or is there anything else?
[15:55] <bdmurray> mvo added a patch to bug 1015567 fwiw
[15:56] <bdmurray> and mvo has a merge proposal for bug 1052605
[15:56] <bdmurray> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/lp1052605/+merge/125693
[15:56] <cjwatson> Oh, yeah, I looked at that MP and ran away
[15:56] <cjwatson> I'll steel myself and have another look
[15:57] <slangasek> xnox: 1015567 is assigned to you, are you ok to follow through?  or should we kick it over to infinity, since he's to blame for everything broken in dpkg right now? :)
[15:57] <xnox> bdmurray: yes, mvo was pinging me about dpkg. I have small test to run against it & we agreed on the plan of fixing it for real as well as appying that work around patch.
[15:57] <slangasek> spiff
[15:58] <slangasek> well, I was going to pester people about work items too, but we seem to have run out of time for that
[15:58] <slangasek> so I'll come knocking on your cubicle walls individually :)
[15:58] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:58] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:58] <cjwatson> please can I have enough I/O over USB that I can run lintian over grub2 and read mail at the same time
[15:58] <cjwatson> never mind
[15:59] <xnox> ev: how do you get RT deployments done? RT 55554 is still not done
[15:59] <cjwatson> Oh, should we drop data.tar.xz-member-without-dpkg-pre-depends from lintian now?
[15:59] <xnox> the ubuntu-geonames lookup.
[15:59] <ev> xnox: I kindly nag
[15:59] <ev> xnox: hang out in #webops
[15:59] <xnox> hm....
[15:59]  * ogra_ wishes we could disable apport on arm installs by default
[15:59] <ev> ask if someone can look at it during your active hours
[16:00] <xnox> ok.
[16:00] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, is that a delta?  seems like we could drop it now
[16:00] <ev> failing that, ask slangasek to bump the priority and raise it at the next meeting
[16:00] <slangasek> is LP happy for it to go away?
[16:00] <cjwatson> Actually it apparently isn't
[16:00] <ogra_> i just had to wait 20min for a stuck desktop to recover because apport colletced stuff
[16:00] <cjwatson> There's an Ubuntu profile thing in lintian to raise it from pedantic to serious
[16:00] <slangasek> apport is such a neat freak
[16:00] <ogra_> and now apt-update-xapian-index kicked in ...
[16:01] <cjwatson> So I might just commit upstream to drop that back to pedantic - yeah, LP doesn't care any more
[16:01] <ogra_> which will keep it stuck for about another hour
[16:01]  * ogra_ ponders a release note "after install dont touch your panda installation for 2h"
[16:01] <cjwatson> Oh, haha, already done upstream
[16:02] <xnox> ogra_: or use it at 3-4am in the morning =)
[16:02] <ogra_> heh
[16:03] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 26 16:03:11 2012 UTC.
[16:03] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-15.02.moin.txt
[16:03] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-26-15.02.html
[16:03] <slangasek> thanks everyone :)
[16:03] <ev> thanks!
[16:03] <jodh> thanks
[16:03] <ogra_> thanks !
[16:03] <barry> thanks!
[16:03] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:04]  * xnox cheers
[16:04] <slangasek> xnox: oh, RT#55554 - send me a nag mail about that please, it was supposed to have gone into the "piece o' cake" queue on IS's side
[16:04] <slangasek> didn't realize that was still stalled, sorry
[16:05] <xnox> slangasek: ok.
[16:39] <mvo> cjwatson: just reading the backlog, if https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/lp1052605/+merge/125693 made you run away, I wonder if there is anything that can be done to fix that. any suggestions welcome, just put them into the MP (or we can chat tomorrow about it)
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[03:36] <twb> cjwatson: well live booting works off local media, but Ubuntu's busybox-initramfs lacks tftp, thus:
[03:36] <twb> Begin: Trying tftp -g -b 10240 -r <IP_ADDRESS>/understudy/filesystem.squashfs -l /live/image/live/filesystem.squashfs  ... /init: line 14: tftp: not found
[03:36] <twb> ...what's the best way to get that applet in the initrd?  Install busybox, copy it over the top of the busybox-initramfs version?
[03:37] <cjwatson> I'd grab the busybox source, tweak debian/config/pkg/initramfs, rebuild
[03:37] <cjwatson> and file a bug since that should be easy for us to add for the future
[03:38] <twb> Well AFAICT it was by design since lots of other applets are also missing compared to debian's busybox
[03:38] <twb> I assumed it was to make space in initrd for plymouth :P
[03:41] <twb> For now I'm trying this: http://paste.debian.net/172037/
[03:44] <cjwatson> when I ask you to file a bug, you can safely assume it isn't by design
[03:44] <cjwatson> it's by design that busybox and busybox-initramfs are different; but your imputation is clearly false since busybox-initramfs predates plymouth by several years
[03:46] <cjwatson> using busybox will *probably* work, though I don't remember if there's anything turned on in busybox-initramfs and not in busybox.  In general we considered it useful to keep busybox-initramfs as small as reasonably possible since it does have some effect on boot time, but adding tftp wouldn't break the bank
[03:48] <twb> cjwatson: except then you get feature creep "one more applet won't hurt"
[03:48] <twb> OTOH your ramdisks are about double Debian's in size atm (12 vs 20ish MB) IIRC, and a busybox with ALL the apps is still only a couple of MB IIRC
[03:50] <cjwatson> feature creep that's still within the upper bound set by the size of busybox doesn't really count much in my boo
[03:50] <cjwatson> k
[03:50] <cjwatson> last I checked, the vast majority of the initramfs size lay in kernel modules
[03:50] <cjwatson> to the point where it really wasn't desperately worth looking at anything much else
[03:51] <twb> Woot, that approach I pasted worked
[03:51]  * cjwatson returns to bed, having exorcised the things he woke up at 1:30am being unable to get out of his head
[03:52] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/172045/
[03:52] <twb> Sorry to wake you
[03:52] <cjwatson> You didn't
[03:53] <twb> Now my only issue is this machine has 256MB RAM and to boot of TFTP I need to copy the .sq to it, so I need to make sure I don't make the image too big :-)
[05:42] <twb> cjwatson: FYI, busybox head w/allyesconf except selinux, is 2.7MB on x86_64