[00:31] <bazhang> IdleOne, hi
[00:32] <IdleOne> heya bazhang
[00:33] <Flannel> IdleOne: How can we help you today?
[00:33] <IdleOne> sorry was just parked here
[00:34] <IdleOne> thought we were having an issue before in ubuntu but it solved itself
[00:34] <IdleOne> I'll leave the chan now
[00:34] <IdleOne> thanks guys
[02:26] <mneptok> The new MSI netbooks are so thin and light ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiNaadVOQEM
[02:37] <maco> Seeker`: Flannel: apparently they make ones with handles nowadays O_o mine was just box-shaped. http://www.mydwinkbox.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=2
[02:43] <bazhang> ugh
[02:47] <Seeker`> quite
[02:53] <bazhang> :/
[02:53] <Seeker`> troll? or just no clue?
[02:54] <bazhang> 'then what'  'do I use'
[02:58] <Seeker`> keep an eye on paige, I reckon
[02:58] <maco> i hope thats not my siste
[02:58] <maco> *sister
[02:59] <maco> twogirlsinlove.net? definitely not my sister.
[02:59] <Seeker`> thats what makes me say to keep an eye on them :)
 i just got this room by mistake
[02:59] <maco> (my sister's name is paige)
[03:00] <bazhang> * aman has quit (Connection reset by peer)
[03:00] <maco> er nobody called !language on aman?
[03:00] <bazhang> maco, many times ?
[03:01] <maco> oh i saw a f-bomb that went unresponded to, but it was a few minutes ago so it seemed a little late for me to send one
[03:01] <bazhang> that was when he was muted
[03:01] <bazhang> after 3 prior warnings by myself alone.
[03:03] <maco> how come i can see him when he's muted?
[03:03] <bazhang> not banned?
[03:04] <maco> no i mean i saw him drop an f bomb. if he was muted, i didnt think itd show up in the channel at all
[03:04] <maco> otherwise what does mute mean?
[03:04] <Seeker`> that was before he was muted
[03:05] <maco> oh. so bazhang means "that caused the mute"?
[03:05] <maco> he said"when he was muted" so i got confused
[03:05] <Seeker`> I have 2 instances of him saying f*ck in my backlog
[03:05] <Seeker`> one I responded to personally
[03:05] <Seeker`> the second is what triggered the mute
[03:05] <maco> ah ok
[03:05] <bazhang> the last was the mute causer
 bazhang i know the fucking basic
[03:08] <maco> gotcha
[03:16] <bazhang> :0
 i think ur bot
[04:16] <Pici> argh
[04:17] <maco> argh?
[04:18] <Pici> the bot flooded out after it rejoined
[04:18] <maco> ah
[04:18] <tsimpson> it'll come back
[04:19] <Pici> I know
[04:43] <tsimpson> gerr
[06:19] <Berzerker> hi
[06:19] <Berzerker> (what do I do here..? lol)
[06:19] <bazhang> hang one second
[06:20] <bazhang> Berzerker, what has he been up to?
[06:20] <Berzerker> he's just a troll
[06:20] <Berzerker> and he's decided to target me
[06:20] <Berzerker> with is trolling. just overall off-topic in the #ubuntu channelo and annoying.
[06:21] <bazhang> right.
[06:21] <Berzerker> he was trolling a lot yesterday as wel.
[06:21] <Berzerker> excuse my horrible typing to night.
[06:21] <bazhang> no worries :)
[06:23] <bazhang> he has stopped in #ubuntu for the moment. we'll keep a close eye on him howerver
[06:24] <Berzerker> ok
[06:24] <Berzerker> so are you not supposed to be in here unless you have an op inquiry?
[06:24] <bazhang> thanks for the heads up Berzerker
[06:31] <bazhang> Berzerker, was there anything else? we try to keep this channel free for operator/abuse issues
[06:32] <Berzerker> no
[06:32] <Berzerker> I'll leave then. :)
[06:32] <Berzerker> thansk
[06:32] <bazhang> thanks :)
[06:32] <Berzerker> bah. screw it lol
[07:11] <bazhang> now trolling elsewhere as well
[09:07] <Bearshare> Hello
[09:11] <Bearshare> I need help
[09:11] <Bearshare> I was banned in #ubuntu-offtopic and I would like to go back
[09:15] <th0r> does someone have to officially complain about Mart||in and Bearshare?
[09:16] <Bearshare> no\
[09:16] <Bearshare> I have a complaint though
[09:16] <sblunix> What did Bearshare do?
[09:16] <Bearshare> or more of a question
[09:16] <Bearshare> I didnt do a thing
[09:16] <sblunix> tyvm
[09:16] <sblunix> lol, this is quite depressing
[09:17] <Bearshare> i have a question
[09:17] <sblunix> should I have an answer?
[09:17] <Bearshare> Yes
[09:18] <Bearshare> I was banned in #ubuntu-offtopic for no reason I would like back in
[09:18] <Flannel> sblunix: How can we help you today?
[09:18] <sblunix> Umm...
[09:18] <sblunix> By staying happy?
[09:18] <topyli> sblunix, th0r: are you sure you need to be on this channel?
[09:18] <sblunix> I have no need to be on this channel
[09:18] <Flannel> sblunix: If you have no business here, please don't idle here.  Thanks.
[09:18] <sblunix> but, I figure, Hi OPs :)
[09:19] <sblunix> oh noes
[09:19] <sblunix> I'm getting booted
[09:19] <sblunix> :(
[09:19] <sblunix> byes
[09:19] <Bearshare> How do I get the list of ops for certain rooms
[09:20] <topyli> why do you need such a list?
[09:20] <Bearshare> To get unbanned from rooms
[09:21] <Flannel> Bearshare: With regard to -offtopic, why would we let you back in?
[09:21] <Bearshare> because I was banned without reason
[09:23] <topyli> was this under another nick?
[09:23] <Bearshare> yup
[09:24] <topyli> oh yes, i see your long history of bans/kicks now
[09:25] <Bearshare> ok and
[09:26] <topyli> why do you think we should remove the ban?
[09:26] <Bearshare> because im good on the inside
[09:27] <topyli> i'm not very interested in what you're like on the inside. it's your outside that keeps polluting our channels
[09:27] <Bearshare> polluting?
[09:28] <Bearshare> am i like public enemy number 1
[09:28] <topyli> if you don't know what i'm referring to, i see no reason to believe it's going to change any time soon
[09:28] <Bearshare> it shall you have my word
[09:31] <Bearshare> ok so how bout it
[09:31] <topyli> i'm not convinced at this time. you come here claiming you were banned for no reason. now you're offering your word against tons of evidence to contradict it
[09:33] <topyli> so the ban stays for now
[09:37] <topyli> Bearshare: if there is no other matter on your mind, please leave this channel for now
[09:37] <Bearshare> I would like the ban lifte
[09:37] <Bearshare> d
[09:37] <Bearshare> what were the reasons for the bam
[09:37] <Bearshare> Ban
[09:40] <topyli> trolling, foul language, insulting other users. starts with your nick and continues in almost everything you have said on ubuntu channels
[09:41] <Bearshare> I am turning a new leaf, I swear
[09:41] <nalioth> Bearshare: is there anything else we can help you with?
[09:42] <Bearshare> Hey nalioth what was that code again for retrieving the list of channel ops?
[09:42] <nalioth> Bearshare: #freenode awaits
[09:42] <nalioth> Bearshare: is there anything else we can help you with in here?
[09:43] <Bearshare> My voice was taken from me in #freenode
[09:43] <nalioth> then i guess you're out of luck.  if there's nothing more we can help you with in here, please respect our /topic
[09:45] <Bearshare> give me a voice
[09:48] <Myrtti> Whee
[11:24] <bazhang> Myrtti, you doing okay?
[11:26] <Myrtti> Yeah, the nurse took the iv drip off just now and I had my first food since thursday
[11:26] <Myrtti> The iv port is still on my hand just in case I relapse and they need to give meds
[11:27] <Myrtti> Suprising how liberating it is to be without the drip stand :-)
[11:27] <bazhang> did they diagnosis what was causing this all?
[11:28] <bazhang> err diagnose
[11:28] <bazhang> you still in the uk btw?
[11:30] <Myrtti> Pancrea and gall bladder inflammation caused by a gall stone that passed from their common tract. Going to have gallbladder removed in a month in a keyhole operation
[11:30] <Myrtti> Ive been in Finland for a month now
[11:30] <bazhang> oh my goodness.
[11:32] <bazhang> I cant believe they had you traveling with that.
[11:32] <Myrtti> They didnt know
[11:33] <Myrtti> I didnt know
[11:33] <bazhang> my god I'm glad they caught it.
[11:34] <Myrtti> My own stubborness was the main cause for not getting it discovered earlier
[11:34] <Myrtti> Ive had the pain episodes since june 2005
[11:35] <Myrtti> Just got more and more often recently
[11:36] <bazhang> all the numbness, the pain was related to this then presumably.
[11:37] <Myrtti> Might be
[11:37] <bazhang> I recall you saying you had hip pain before and numbness.
[11:39] <Myrtti> Probably unrelated, our family has a history of sciatica and joint aches
[11:39] <bazhang> ok
[11:41] <Myrtti> But Im happy the cause for this is now solved
[11:41] <bazhang> understandably
[11:47] <bazhang> wow ban list is full
[11:49] <niko> a +L one ?
[11:52] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253613/
[11:53] <bazhang> jack_sparrow has a ton in there. wonder if we can remove them
[11:53] <niko> there is somes on +d list
[11:54] <bazhang> realname ban ?
[11:54] <niko> yes
[11:54] <bazhang> haven't seen him around for many months
[11:59] <niko> also akick list contains some
[11:59] <bazhang> * irc.freenode.net sets ban on *!?=a1234567@* I just removed that one
[12:00] <niko> netsplit issue perhaps
[12:00] <bazhang> aha
[12:03] <bazhang> I recall jack_sparrow used to lart all his bans
[12:04] <bazhang> ie /cs l nick
[12:12] <jgoo> how to stop twm from asking where to place new windows
[12:12] <bazhang> jgoo, this is not a support channel
[12:13] <jgoo> ah, some faggot in ubuntu took offense to something no doubt, ah, they can go fuck themselves
[12:13] <jgoo> cheers bazhang
[12:13] <jgoo> who was it btw?
[12:14] <bazhang> jgoo, you are forwarded here
[12:14] <jgoo> which faggot?
[12:14] <bazhang> jgoo, no need for that language
[12:14] <jgoo> I know ffs - any indiction why?
[12:14] <jgoo> bazhang, I think you'll find language is what seperates us from the lower ordesr of animalia
[12:14] <bazhang> jgoo, please refrain from it on ubuntu channels
[12:14] <jgoo> aaanyway, twm, get - so how do you stop twm from asking where to place windows? kinda retarded
[12:15] <nalioth> please refrain from it in civilized society
[12:15] <jgoo> bazhang, not in the mood, so, 1) who / why or 2) twm
[12:15] <nalioth> jgoo: this is not a support channel
[12:15] <jgoo> I like 2
[12:15] <jgoo> nalioth, original - not going to win this one though
[12:15] <jgoo> 2 or gtfo
[12:15]  * nalioth goes for gtfo
[12:16] <bazhang> any objections to clearing jack_sparrow's bans out?
[12:17] <nalioth> are they old?
[12:17] <bazhang> most certainly as he has not been on in ages
[12:18] <nalioth> go for it
[12:18] <bazhang> thanks
[12:18] <bazhang> thanks Myrtti for the list
[12:19] <nalioth> i think we need to look at the ban list in -offtopic
[12:29] <jussi01> +1. all those with bans in -ot, please review and remove if necessary.
[12:40] <bazhang> all of jack_sparrow's bans removed (that I could see with matching the pastebin); what about the forwards to #ubuntu-es and LjL's bans?
[12:40] <bazhang> seems like a ton of #ubuntu-read-topic as well by fb's
[13:14] <niko> floodbot don't work or ?
[13:15] <bazhang> slow it seems
[13:27] <PriceChild> I believe it is because of the split earlier, one of them is confused.
[13:28] <bazhang> seems to be in emergency mode
[13:30] <PriceChild> seems they're out now, but one of them is still confused
[13:30] <PriceChild> not sure how to restart it though
[14:30] <bazhang> what a charmer (mart||n)
[15:39] <elky> is there anyone else around for -ot?
[15:39] <elky> topyli, Seeker`?
[15:45] <Bilbo_Baggins> So, can I ask why I was actually kicked from ubuntu-offtopic?  Some may say I used excuses, but I just said what I said as it was said.  If I am in any kind of real error (aside from free thinking), I truly and honestly wish to know how.
[15:46] <Bilbo_Baggins> No one?  I can run the log for you all and pastebin it.
[15:47] <elky> i'm the only one around at the moment.
[15:47] <Bilbo_Baggins> Figured.  Hows it going... God.
[15:48] <Bilbo_Baggins> You cannot define.   You insulted every female in the channel by saying they're simple and that finding them is enough to 'get some'.   Second, now, I only wish to help....and my sacasim is on the same lines as Douglas Adams.  If you cannot take that, the I guess Hitching a ride is not for you.  Enjoy the rest of your short life....all of our lives are short, (just "Actually" think about it, for a minute, if your not afraid).
[15:54] <elky> I fail to see how telling people to find women and 'get some' is helping.
[15:55] <elky> let alone how calling women simple helps anything.
[15:55] <Seeker`> 3hi
[15:55] <elky> this has nothing to do with what you did last time you were drunk on irc. this entirely about what you've done today
[15:56] <elky> Seeker`, hi, care to review the past 40 mins of -ot and weigh in here?
[15:57] <Seeker`> give me a few mins
[16:04] <Seeker`> sorry, I'm trying to deal with low blood sugar at the same time
[16:05] <Seeker`> in my opinion, Bilbo_Baggins' comments are deeply inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:06] <Seeker`> and while what he said may be open to different interpretations, the most common interpretation of what he said could easily be seen to be offensive
[16:06] <elky> and was to several people.
[16:06] <Seeker`> and I believe that the common interpretation is what was actually menat
[16:07] <Seeker`> the other stuff afterwards was just backpeddling
[16:08] <elky> agreed
[16:10] <Bilbo_Baggins> So, Sir or Maam, my question now is you said that "what was actually menat"  (assuming meant)....so my question is this....you can discern what I mean?  You can and elky, know what no one can know?  How?  I honestly wish to know.
[16:10] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, come back in a week's time from now with a genuine apology and your ban will be reviewed.
[16:10] <Seeker`> I cannot know for sure what you meant
[16:11] <Bilbo_Baggins> Exactly....so why do you ostricize me for it when I attempted to explain it?
[16:11] <Seeker`> but seeing as you clearly aren't illiterate, I would imagine that you would have used different, less ambiguous wording if you did actually mean something different
[16:12] <Bilbo_Baggins> Why, I tried to keep it simple.....but I failed.
[16:12] <Seeker`> why keep it simple for that one line, where you were so verbose about wanting to watch people burn?
[16:12] <elky> i'm really not sure what other interpretations there are for "I hope that the wars that everyone fights for come to the homes of everyone that live......May the world burn."
[16:13] <elky> especially when followed with "I just want to eat popcorn and watch as my body and the bodies of everyone else go up like tinder."
[16:14] <Bilbo_Baggins> Forgive me.  Because, then I was getting irritated.  I did not know how to express what I was wanting to say and I was being burned for everything I "did" say.  (That, is RL for me and the way it works for me....because I am so ungodly literate, and I hate it).
[16:14] <Bilbo_Baggins> RL = Real LIfe.
[16:15] <Bilbo_Baggins> I just used the short for typing purposes.....
[16:15] <elky> expressing your desire to burn people alive isn't a good idea.
[16:15] <elky> ever.
[16:16] <Bilbo_Baggins> I am who I am.  I am not out to troll, I am not out to get anyone.  I am angry, at times, but at other times I am not.  Who isn't.  My Literacy actually is a handicap because others are not so.....so.
[16:16] <Bilbo_Baggins> AND I MEAN THATR>
[16:16] <Bilbo_Baggins> THAT even..... sry
[16:16] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, my decision stands. Come back in a week with a thoughtful apology and your ban will be reviewed at that time, not before.
[16:17] <Bilbo_Baggins> But I cannot EVEN FIT IN IN circles of "Geeks"  So I am "Honestly" torn.......and bleeding.
[16:17] <Bilbo_Baggins> And I do not mean "Geek" as an insult.
[16:17] <Bilbo_Baggins> just the oposite.
[16:18] <Bilbo_Baggins> That is as honest as I know how to be.
[16:19] <elky> We cannot provide counselling.
[16:19] <Bilbo_Baggins> This is a little "offtopic" but have you ever seen the movie "Anger Management"  Think of Adam Sandler as a numbers geek (I can sing too, I love Italian Arias!  =D )
[16:19] <Bilbo_Baggins> Caro Mio Bein.... I can sing it!  =D
[16:20] <Bilbo_Baggins> Don't know what it is saying, but I can sing it....LMAO
[16:20] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, come back in a week.
[16:21] <Bilbo_Baggins> Well enough for a collegiete level vocal major......(but I didn't finish, due to thing I will never repeat to anyone but my mother and my little brother).
[16:21] <Bilbo_Baggins> Not really bad, but bad enough for me.
[16:22] <Pricey>  Bilbo_Baggins Is there anything else we can help you with?
[16:22] <Bilbo_Baggins> I just wish to know why I was kicked from offtopic.
[16:23] <elky> that has already been explained to you.
[16:23] <Pricey> Bilbo_Baggins: Please take your time to reread hte logs of this conversation :)
[16:23] <Bilbo_Baggins> Seeker kind of explained it, but If it it just because what I said was taken construed....then I just wish to know why it was construed.
[16:23] <Bilbo_Baggins> I've read it.
[16:24] <Seeker`> The comments about watching the world burn were deeply inappropriate for that channel
[16:24] <Seeker`> and I can't see any other possible interpretation for what you said about that
[16:24] <Bilbo_Baggins> Can you tell me why.....?  I've read the ubuntu agreement.
[16:25] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, you made comments that were of a mortally threatening nature. You then made comments that were very disrespectful to women.
[16:25] <Bilbo_Baggins> But, in all seriousness, the world will one day burn.... I belive this.  But I did not bring that up due to religion.
[16:26] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, please go away and sober up. In one week's time, come back here and apologise. If you do that, your ban will be reviewed at that time, not before.
[16:26] <Pricey> !guidelines > Bilbo_Baggins
[16:26] <Bilbo_Baggins> Here's the catch......there is a way out....It's not the latter day saints, it's not the Catholic church.  Its the Christ......but that is just me.....please, I hope I am in a safe place to say that.
[16:26] <Pricey> Bilbo_Baggins: Thanks very much for your time. However I don't appreciate these constant tangents. Please reread the logs of this channel if htere is any confusion.
[16:27] <Pricey> Bilbo_Baggins: Please do return in a weeks time like elky requested.
[16:31] <elky> Bilbo_Baggins, this is not a channel for idling in.
[16:45] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I hope you get better soon (just reading logs)
[17:03] <ikonia> come someone tell me why bilbo_baggins is tollerated ?
[17:03] <ikonia> this is another serial troll and we appear to be humouring his nonsense
[17:04] <Pricey> ikonia: tolerated?
[17:04] <ikonia> presistantly reviewing his bans and explaining things to him
[17:09] <Pricey> This was a fresh ban, no?
[17:09] <ikonia> yes
[17:09] <ikonia> the point I'm saying is the guy is banned on average 3 - 4 times per month
[17:09] <ikonia> and each time it's "come back in a week and we'll review it"
[17:09] <Pricey> Keep the ban for longer then.
[17:09] <ikonia> I'd like to see that
[17:10] <ikonia> the guy has no interest in participating so I see no reason - as with bacta to keep allowing the inevitable disrution
[17:10] <bazhang> he and bilok /aka immo_phagg etc
[17:11] <ikonia> bazhang: they are "new" though, they may get bored, this guy keeps coming back with no intetion other than being a problem
[17:11] <bazhang> ikonia, 3 klines and multiple bans in a short time (5 bans today alone)
[17:12] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: hello, how can we help ?
[17:12] <Thor_allmighty> Hello. I was just looking for the Supreme Ruler
[17:13] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: do you have a real question / problem we can help with ?
[17:13] <Thor_allmighty> The guy who owns freenode
[17:13] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: #freenode is the correct channel to talk to freenode staff
[17:13] <Thor_allmighty> #ubuntu is not affiliated with freenode??
[17:14] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: #ubuntu is a channel on the freenode network, #freenode is the channel to talk to freenode staff members
[17:15] <Thor_allmighty> I see. Well, I'm going there now.. thanks!
[17:15] <ikonia> no problem,
[17:15] <Thor_allmighty> So, they can give me Op?
[17:15] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: I don't know what your talking about, I suggest you speak to the freenode staff members (voiced) in #freenode
[17:15] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: this channel is only for #ubuntu related issues
[17:17] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: anything else you need from this channel ?
[17:18] <Thor_allmighty> no, thank you!
[17:18] <ikonia> Thor_allmighty: no problem, if you check the topic we ask that when you have no other issues you need to disscuss here that you leave the channel so we can deal with people who do need help
[17:18] <Thor_allmighty> a, ok
[17:19] <Thor_allmighty> bye bye
[17:19] <ikonia> thanks
[19:32] <Myrtti> Dumdi dum
[20:08] <Seeker`> hihi
[21:14] <tuhid> hello, it seems that I have been banned at the #ubuntu channel, I don't know why.
[21:15] <tuhid> can someone give a reason?
[21:28] <Pici> tuhid: We ban java irc clients due to some abuse that we have gotten in the past, please use a normal irc client or http://webchat.freenode.net
[21:31] <tuhid> ah
[21:31] <tuhid> thx


 Het nie tik op skool geneem nie. Was  'n moffie subject
[06:51] <bduk1> dis hoekom ons nou tik soos n hoender wat mielies pik
[06:51] <bushtech> dronk hoender
[06:51] <bduk1> ha ha hoe oud is jy bushtech as ek mag vra
[06:52] <bushtech> 59
[06:52] <bushtech> en jy?
[06:52] <bduk1> Ai moet ook amper vir jou oom se
[06:52] <bduk1> 51
[06:53] <bushtech> darem nie heeltemal nie
[06:58] <Kilos> lol
[07:13] <magespawn> good morning
[07:33] <Squirm> morning
[07:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[07:41] <Kilos> sorry was outside
[07:41] <Kilos> morning superfly
[07:42] <magespawn> hi Squirm Kilos
[07:42] <magespawn> np Kilos, sheep?
[07:42] <Kilos> \ya and fowls
[07:43] <Kilos> there is so much green stuff now the sheeps dunno where to start
[07:46] <bushtech> you must maar sell a couple of skaaptjoppies before the BEE chappies decide to have a braai
[07:46] <Kilos> lol there are only 4 left man
[07:47] <Kilos> and only one still can lamb
[07:49] <bushtech> then the  forecast for the future of your sheep population looks a bit grim
[07:51] <bushtech> sell the old ones & buy some lambs?
[07:51] <Squirm> Has anyone here used InstaDMG before?
[07:52] <magespawn> nope Squirm, not even sure what it is
[07:53] <bushtech> nope, sorry, ditto
[07:53] <Squirm> magespawn: it packages a customised OS X into an unbooted disk image
[07:53] <Kilos> yeah bush the only way is to bring in fresh ewes to start with
[07:53] <Squirm> kind of like a kickstart file
[07:54] <Squirm> I know there are some people here that have a Mac or two
[07:54] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:54] <Squirm> so just thought I'd ask
[07:54] <Squirm> heya superfly
[07:54] <superfly> hi Squirm
[07:54] <superfly> Squirm: never used InstaDMG
[07:55] <magespawn> where can you get OS X from to dp that with?
[07:55] <Squirm> "from to dp" ?
[07:56] <Squirm> oh, do
[07:56] <magespawn> sorry dp = do
[07:56] <Kilos> lol
[07:56] <Squirm> magespawn: you can download the installation file
[07:56] <Squirm> from the store
[07:56] <magespawn> ahh i see
[07:56] <Squirm> I have a Mac now :P Came with my new job
[07:59] <Squirm> Unable to find OS Installer disc in any provided folder: ['/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/InstallerDiscs', '/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/BaseOS'] (['InstallESD.dmg'])
[07:59] <Squirm> It's right there you damn application!
[07:59] <Squirm> it even picks it up
[07:59] <Squirm> superfly: I don't like python anymore ;)
[08:00] <superfly> Squirm: I disown you! :-P
[08:00] <superfly> Squirm: what are you using?
[08:01] <Squirm> superfly: in terms of?
[08:01] <theblazehen> hi Kilos Squirm magespawn superfly
[08:01] <superfly> well, if you don't like Python, then you must be using someting "better"
[08:01] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[08:01] <magespawn> hi theblazehen
[08:01] <Squirm> superfly: ph, no, I use python
[08:02] <Squirm> s/ph/oh/
[08:02] <superfly> Squirm: wait... you don't like Python, you LOVE it?
[08:02] <superfly> :-P
[08:03] <Squirm> It's my language of choice
[08:03] <Squirm> But it's not working in this case
[08:03] <superfly> what's wrong?
[08:08] <Squirm> InstaDMG is not finding the file that it finds :P
[08:08] <Squirm> I must be missing something
[08:11] <Squirm> It's not python, I know that
[08:11] <Squirm> :P
[08:14] <Squirm> Just found another application that might just do what I want
[08:14] <Squirm> Let's see
[08:15] <Squirm> basically looking at creating a standard image for all our machines. pre-setup for the most part and able to then use Ansible to customise other changes that we make along the way
[08:15] <Squirm> would be cool to start automating our OS X installations too
[08:18] <Kilos> Squirm  not sure what you doing but can you run renastersys there
[08:18] <Kilos> that makes a full iso of a working pc
[08:18] <Squirm> Kilos: which is what?
[08:19] <Squirm> That's quite a cool application
[08:19] <Kilos> ya but no longer supported
[08:19] <Squirm> but can only be used on debian based OS's
[08:20] <Kilos> \aw
[08:20] <Squirm> We work our backups different;y
[08:20] <Kilos> python it to do the osx too
[08:20] <Squirm> you can do a full backup to an HDD with OS X too
[08:21] <Squirm> which you can then plug into another machine and do a full restore
[08:21] <Kilos> yeah but the remastersys tool you can go install on other pcs and have all working the same
[08:21] <Kilos> aha
[08:23] <Squirm> yep
[08:25] <Squirm> all our servers are backed up differently though
[08:29] <Squirm> Creating this disk image is taking forever :/
[09:14] <magespawn> i have to draw up BYOD policy for the company and also a policy covering tablets that we are going to issue to staff
[09:15] <magespawn> i have googled but i was jus wondering if anyone had specific experience etc
[09:45] <magespawn> back again
[09:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:49] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[09:59] <Symmetria> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbYv5nVTzs <[09:59] <Symmetria> check the cool turtle!
[11:18] <Kilos> yo Joe_knock
[11:44] <Joe_knock> hey oom Kilos
[14:09] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[14:09] <Kilos> mirrag nuvolari
[14:29] <Kilos> wbb
[14:47] <inetpro> good aftrernoon
[14:49] <bduk> afternoon
[14:49] <inetpro> bduk: oops, right
[14:50] <inetpro> fingers doing funny things
[14:51] <inetpro> lekker hot in Gauteng again today, Kilos must be very happy
[14:51] <Kilos> afternoon inetpro  ya its kinda lekker
[14:55] <Joe_knock> this heat yoh
[14:59] <bduk> enjoy while it last, winter is on its way
[14:59] <Joe_knock> bduk: winter is far away. only april
[15:02] <bduk> april is not so far the way time flys its just around the corner
[15:02] <Squirm> home time ^^
[15:02] <Squirm> Have a good evening all
[15:03] <bduk> same there
[15:04] <Kilos> eish
[15:05] <bduk> is it broken again kilos
[15:05] <Kilos> no man that word winter
[15:05] <Kilos> sends shivers down my spine
[15:06] <bduk> lekker man lekker
[15:06] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom Kilos?
[15:06] <nuvolari> oh hi Joe_knock, bduk, Squirm, inetpro
[15:06] <Joe_knock> hello nuvolari '
[15:06] <bduk> hi there
[15:07] <Kilos> ja dankie nuvolari  en daar seun?
[15:07] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos :)
[15:07] <Kilos> mooi
[15:33] <inetpro> @tWeatherSA ALERT: Plenty of T-storm activity over the southern half of #Gauteng at present. Storm with showers also moving over parts of northern JHB. -- 38 mins ago
[15:35] <inetpro> @tWeatherSA: ALERT: #Hailstorm now moving over parts of northern #Johannesburg. Road #flooding also reported in areas. -- 10 mins ago
[15:35] <Joe_knock> is it heading north? inetpro
[15:35] <inetpro> no idea
[15:36] <inetpro> can't see much of it yet here in Pretoria North
[15:36] <inetpro> still mostly blue skies
[15:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:41] <Kilos> looks like its building up to the south of us
[15:56] <Kilos> weather liars say we got good chance of thunderstorms tonight and toimorrow
[17:01] <magespawn> good evening
[17:05] <Joe_knock> Better keep watch for it. modems will go
[17:15] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[17:15] <Kilos> i think if we get storms it will only be late Joe_knock
[17:16] <Kilos> no big winds yet and clouds very far away
[17:18] <Kilos> actually no wind atm,
[17:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:18] <Kilos> Maaz  forecast pretoria
[17:18] <Maaz> Kilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Partly
[17:18] <Maaz> Cloudy. High: 29° C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Pa…
[17:20] <Joe_knock> thunderstorm wednesday??
[17:22] <Kilos> if the wind turns and blows hard it can still happen
[17:23] <Kilos> well it hit jhb but not us
[17:24] <Joe_knock> weather prediction isn't exact, thats what weather people say
[17:27] <Kilos> another hot one tomorrow
[17:28] <Kilos> 32c
[17:29] <Kilos> i lost my compose key hmm...
[17:34] <Kilos> 32°c
[17:54] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[17:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:23] <theblazehen> 32?! fml
[18:25] <Joe_knock> They say the hot african sun is bad for europeans :P
[18:26] <bduk1> Then you must stay out of the sun
[18:29] <bduk1> You must know it is hot if the dog is chasing the cat and both are walking
[18:29] <Kilos> rofl
[18:29] <Joe_knock> is that fortune cookie wisdom bduk1 :P
[18:30] <Kilos> europeans are peeps born in the land of pink peeps
[18:30] <bduk1> What do you mean its experience
[18:32] <Joe_knock> oom jy sien jouself as european of african? :P
[18:33] <bduk1> Where in europe are you joe--knock
[18:34] <Joe_knock> in gauteng
[18:34] <Joe_knock> aka western europe
[18:35] <bduk1> Country?
[18:35] <Joe_knock> lets see. UK?
[18:35] <Joe_knock> I'd say germany is joburg
[18:36] <bduk1> You lost me completely now
[18:37] <Joe_knock> 1 day you will understand young padawan
[18:38] <bduk1> Kilos rook die ou sy sokkies of wat
[18:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:40] <Kilos> actually Joe_knock  we always accepted us a being european but when you see english irish and scots on our beaches you notice a marked difference
[18:41] <Kilos> they go very pink and then shed their skins like snakes later on
[18:41] <Joe_knock> oom didn't all the english folks settle in KZN while the afrikaaners stayed in the cape and trekked to jhb??
[18:42] <Kilos> ya thats right, a few of the english came to the tvl and afer a good look around said no man the van der merwes can have this
[18:42] <superfly> ohi
[18:42] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[18:43] <superfly> bwahaha Joe_knock, nice description of Gauteng
[18:49] <Joe_knock> you dont meet many original english folks in SA anymore. A lot of mixing with the afrikaaners. But as I understand it, the Portugese community is very *closed* still. Hulle almal bly in areas van PTA
[18:49] <Joe_knock> of CPT
[18:54] <Kilos> haha we used to mock them , shame we were bad peeps
[18:54] <Kilos> i have english friends in  natal still that came here many years ago
[18:55] <Kilos> like as grownups they came
[18:55] <Kilos> very nice peeps
[18:56] <Joe_knock> they seem to prefer the humidity of natal over cape town
[18:56] <Kilos> yeah
[18:56] <Kilos> and the more english environment
[18:56] <Kilos> they sukkel up here
[18:57] <superfly> Cape Town is not very English
[18:57] <Joe_knock> i wonder why though. natal is hot for us, it must be killer for them
[18:57] <Kilos> no thats very afr i think
[18:57] <Joe_knock> 25+ year round
[18:58] <Kilos> they acclimatise withing 3 years or so
[18:58] <Kilos> they very addaptable
[18:58] <Kilos> superfly  that place very afr hey?
[18:58] <Joe_knock> sounds like the Americans who come from cold northern states and stay in the always hot areas of Thailand
[18:59] <Kilos> i think we i went to compete in stellenbosh bush they were all afrikaans
[19:10] <Kilos> lo ThatGraemeGuy
[19:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[19:11] <superfly> if anyone is interested, there is a team of folks putting together a bid for DebConf 16 to be held in Cape Town
[19:11] <Joe_knock> eeuuww debian
[19:12] <theblazehen> yay debian
[19:12] <superfly> Joe_knock: Windows Fanboi. :-P
[19:12] <Joe_knock> superfly: https://www.devuan.org
[19:13] <superfly> Joe_knock: I know
[19:13] <Joe_knock> due to them supporting systemd, it affected the whole ecosystem
[19:13] <theblazehen> I like systemd...
[19:14] <Joe_knock> theblazehen: It is useful for servers, but it's a monolith
[19:15] <theblazehen> Joe_knock: put it this way: I like the init part of it, but not so much the rest
[19:15] <Joe_knock> they say it keeps growing day by day? theblazehen
[19:16] <theblazehen> Joe_knock: AFAIK thats all the projects together
[19:17] <Joe_knock> that is what worries me.
[19:18] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:18] <Joe_knock> although in principal anything that can spin up servers super fast is a good thing
[19:18] <theblazehen> You know you can use just the init part right?
[19:18] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:18] <theblazehen> 1.6 seconds to login on my PC. Thats from kernel start
[19:19] <Joe_knock> thing is, we'll never know what's included as they plan on only releasing a binary with it
[19:20] <theblazehen> wait, what?
[19:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh good another systemd rant
[19:24] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: haha, hi
[19:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[19:27] <theblazehen> hi captine
[19:27] <captine> hi there
[19:27] <captine> so... proxmox wont install without much effort (doesnt recognize network on mac mini).. so i am installing 14.04 and using kvm
[19:27] <captine> :)
[19:29] <theblazehen> Its just debian though?!
[19:30] <theblazehen> also, you can install proxmox on debian/ubuntu
[19:30] <captine> yip.  but it is an old kernel on the proxmox installer and is custom.. read on a site how to get it to work.. but requires building a module etc
[19:30] <captine> too much effort for now
[19:30] <captine> will wait until i get some other hardware that will be more compatible
[19:31] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:31] <captine> theblazehen, i am going to use the mac mini as my main desktop with some vm's in the background.  will then give my macbook to the wife with os x on it, as her mac from 2008 is dieing
[19:32] <theblazehen> alright
[19:32] <captine> just lacks a decent monitor and no webcam... bummer
[19:36] <Joe_knock> ThatGraemeGuy: whos ranting?
[19:37] <Joe_knock> ooh macs
[19:48] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:53] <theblazehen> hi inetpro. Few hours early
[19:53]  * inetpro lives in the future
[19:53] <theblazehen> ah nice.
[19:53] <theblazehen> Tell me: You go 88 miles per hour to get there, correct?
[19:57] <inetpro> uh, no
[19:57] <theblazehen> You HAVE seen back to the future, have you not?
[19:58] <inetpro> too long ago if I did
[19:59] <theblazehen> yeah..
[19:59] <inetpro> Where we're going, we don't need roads
[20:00] <theblazehen> Thats like a MAJOR plot point..
[20:00] <theblazehen> yeah, thats it!
[20:00] <theblazehen> remember the whole clock tower and lightening and stuff?
[20:04] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[20:05] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[20:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen   what you talking about
[20:05] <captine> night all
[20:05] <Kilos> night cap
[20:05] <Kilos> sleep lekker
[20:06] <theblazehen> Kilos: a movie
[20:06] <Kilos> oi
[20:06] <Kilos> oh
[20:06] <Kilos> the pro dont want movies
[20:07] <Kilos> watch
[20:08]  * inetpro should check it out
[20:08] <inetpro> looks interesting
[20:08] <magespawn> classic scifi, has to be a delorean
[20:08] <magespawn> inetpro you have not seen the movies?
[20:09] <inetpro> magespawn: what is that?
[20:10] <Kilos> lol
[20:10] <Kilos> aijaijai jai ai
[20:11] <magespawn> ah well
[20:12] <inetpro> can you eat it?
[20:12] <magespawn> that was one of my favorites growing up
[20:13] <magespawn> i suppose you could, might not taste nice if you cooked it wrong
[20:13] <theblazehen> magespawn: At least you get it!
[20:14] <Kilos> lol
[20:16] <inetpro> do I need git or bzr to check it out?
[20:16] <superfly> bwahaha
[20:17] <magespawn> apt-get should do
[20:18] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12
[20:19] <magespawn> always had a thing for gull wing doors
[20:23] <magespawn> brb just going to reboot
[20:30] <magespawn> right, what did i miss?
[20:35] <magespawn> mm everyone go to sleep while i was gone?
[20:40] <bushtech> I think most of the usual suspects still around
[20:42] <inetpro> really?
[20:42] <theblazehen> I'm here
[20:42] <inetpro> bushtech: who's the suspects?
[20:44] <bushtech> see list down RHS :)
[20:44] <Kilos> hehe
[20:45] <bushtech> haven't seen EvilDMP  before
[20:45] <Kilos> he is in uk
[20:45] <bushtech> and that ubuntulog looks really suspect :)
[20:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:46] <inetpro> of course
[20:55] <Joe_knock> ive never seen some of those users on the RHS speak before
[20:56] <bushtech> well I do keep my trap shut on another dev irc
[20:57] <bushtech> mostly cos I have mo idea what they're talking about
[20:57] <magespawn> lol
[20:58] <Kilos> hahaha then i should always keep quiet
[20:58] <Kilos> lemme go sleep
[20:58] <Kilos> night everyone. sleep tight
[20:59] <bushtech> night Kilos
[21:00] <Joe_knock> bushtech: channel?
[21:00] <Joe_knock> night oom
[21:01] <bushtech> linuxmce-devel
[21:22] <superfly> hrm. I've seen every name in the nick list (which is on MY left, BTW) speak. I must be old.
[21:24] <bushtech> hrm
[21:26] <magespawn> it is all relative superfly
[21:26] <Joe_knock> even cocooncrash_ adn bmg505 and Symmetria ??
[21:26] <Joe_knock> *and
[21:27] <inetpro> Joe_knock: yes sir
[21:27]  * inetpro seen those for sure
[21:30] <magespawn> now i see why you guys are quiet during the day, you don't sleep
[21:31] <inetpro> magespawn: hmm...
[21:31] <inetpro> what you busy with at this hour?
[21:32] <magespawn> running an update on my elementary os, and i ust finished doing the some internal routing for the network
[21:32] <magespawn> port forwards and such
[21:32] <inetpro> cool
[21:34] <magespawn> could we get in to the regular habit of doing a tutorial session like the other night?
[21:35] <bushtech> it was very enlightening
[21:36] <superfly> I'm happy to host more. What do you want to know?
[21:36] <magespawn> not to be too broad, everything
[21:37] <bushtech> what do people have most problems with
[21:37] <superfly> heh
[21:38] <magespawn> i am busy learning how to be a system administrator and i am interested in programming but mainly in areas that help my sys admin job. i think i might like to get into writing programs but that is for later
[21:39] <bushtech> the field is so wide
[21:39] <magespawn> indeed, like i said, everything
[21:39] <bushtech> i'm into html/css and sql
[21:41] <Joe_knock> magespawn: Look into writing Python/Perl scripts then.
[21:41] <magespawn> i need to learn mysql specifically
[21:41] <magespawn> Joe_knock: that is the idea, along with bash
[21:42] <Joe_knock> there's just 1 problem with doing an LPiC right now. on level 1 they're currently phasing out the normal coursework for the shitware known as systemd
[21:42] <magespawn> i have got excellent resources here for python so i am leaning in that direction
[21:43] <Joe_knock> awesome magespawn. if you in joburg, you should try attending the meetups
[21:44] <magespawn> that is my other problem, i live in Hluhluwe
[21:45] <Joe_knock> farm?
[21:45] <magespawn> no it is actually a town, but it is about as big as bus stop
[21:46] <Joe_knock> surprising that you have access to adsl
[21:47] <Joe_knock> join the usergroups though. CTPUG and GPUG.
[21:47] <magespawn> good idea
[21:52] <inetpro> superfly: have you posted your mail yet?
[21:52]  * inetpro hasn't seen it
[21:53] <superfly> inetpro: no
[21:53] <inetpro> ah
[21:53] <superfly> inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za
[21:53] <superfly> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst
[21:54] <inetpro> oh wow
[21:56] <inetpro> superfly: I actually started capturing relevant parts as you explained but then stopped and deleted when you said you'd post it via email
[21:57] <inetpro> thought a lesson like this could work well together with a collaborative editor like https://piratepad.ca/
[21:58] <inetpro> but the way you've done it above is much better
[22:02] <magespawn> gotta go to bed, good night all
[22:03] <inetpro> oi!
[22:03] <inetpro> good night magespawn
[22:20] <Joe_knock> i know a nice desktop editor where you can code collab
[23:24] <theblazehen> Morning?


[05:27] <Spekko> hah! There's actually people in the channel... load shedding sort of over ?
[05:28] <Spekko> and mornign all
[05:28] <Spekko> *morning
[05:29] <inetpro> good mornings
[05:31] <nuvolari> o/ hello's
[05:31] <not_found> *yawn*
[05:37] <Spekko> Maaz: Coffee on
[05:37]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[05:41] <Kilos> hi inetpro nuvolari not_found
[05:41] <Kilos> hope you guys have a good week
[05:41] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko!
[05:41] <Kilos> ohi Spekko
[05:41] <Kilos> i also want coffee man
[05:42] <Spekko> yo Kilos
[05:42] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[05:42] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[05:42] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[05:42]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[05:42] <Kilos> inetpro question?
[05:43] <Kilos> is the prob with the d-link a d-link prob or ubuntu prob
[05:43] <Kilos> wanna know where to start rocking the boat
[05:44] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[05:45] <bduk1> Morning Kilos  and everyone else
[05:46] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:47] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[05:47] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[05:57] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[05:57] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed?
[05:58] <Kilos> ja dankie nuvolari en daar
[05:58] <Kilos> ek net kwaad my nuwe telkom modem dis al
[05:58] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93
[06:02] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos
[06:21] <Squirm> morning
[07:01] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[07:02] <Kilos> hi distrofer welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:03] <Kilos> uh oh another bot
[07:06] <Vince-0> !
[07:15] <nuvolari> woes dankie oom Kilos
[07:15] <nuvolari> :P
[07:15] <Kilos> ai!
[08:39] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy superfly
[08:43] <magespawn> good morning
[08:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[09:00] <superfly> hi Kilos magespawn and ThatGraemeGuy
[09:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:01] <magespawn> a very wet weekend in KZN
[09:02] <Kilos> we had a coupla wet weeks now
[09:02] <Kilos> another 22mm last night
[09:03] <Kilos> and dripping now
[09:04] <Kilos> i wonder if the ceo of d-link speaks english
[09:11] <Kilos> hey magespawn the e220 hasnt disconnected all morning
[09:11]  * Kilos smiles
[09:23] <magespawn> thats cool Kilos
[09:24] <Kilos> yeah after weeks of work
[09:24] <Kilos> i even bricked it playing with a hex editor
[10:42] <nuvolari> what happened
[12:05] <Kilos-> hmm...
[12:16] <bduk1> where is it raining now.  Oo
[13:37] <Kilos-> sakis3g needs to see a d-link dwm-156
[13:38] <Kilos-> or maybe i did a bad install or something
[13:38] <Kilos-> even running from desktop it dont see the dwm-156
[13:39] <Kilos-> thats the modem telkom supply with their starter pack
[13:44] <Trixar_za> Technically the modem should be supported, but it acts a little weird
[13:44] <Trixar_za> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?t=379
[13:49] <Kilos-> yeah i battled all day yesterday trying all the info online and just screwed up my 12.04
[13:55] <Kilos-> hi Vince-0
[13:56] <Kilos-> Trixar_za im scared to even plug it in here now. it kept hanging my pc yesterday after all the stuff we tried
[13:56] <Kilos-> ive done a clean install of 12.04 so maybe it wont hang me again
[13:56] <Kilos-> will try later
[13:57] <nuvolari> oh hi Squirm, Trixar_za, Kilos-, *
[13:58] <Kilos> hi nuvolari
[13:58] <Trixar_za> If it's a Telkom Mobile starter thing, then the newer Ubuntus with usb_modeswitch will probably have some support for it
[13:58] <Kilos> i tried 13.10 as well. live cd dont even see it either
[14:14] <Vince-0> Haai
[14:22] <Kilos> hi Superhuman long time no see
[14:22] <Superhuman> Hey Kilos
[14:22] <Superhuman> Yeah been FAR too long
[14:23] <Kilos> hope you gonna be a frequent visitor now again
[14:24] <Superhuman> I'll try. Need to do some research. Good place to ask is always IRC.
[14:24] <Kilos> haha
[14:25] <Kilos> what do you need to research
[14:25] <Superhuman> laravel and solarium integration. PHP dev stuff.
[14:26] <Kilos> oh we have a new ok that schemes php is good. hang around maybe he will pop on later
[14:26] <Kilos> Maaz seen golynx
[14:26] <Maaz> Kilos: golynx was last seen 18 hours, 51 minutes and 43 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-09 12:34:58 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-03-09 12:36:11 PDT
[14:27] <Superhuman> PHP is good, for what is does. And it gets the job done, I'm happy. Better than using .Net *spit*
[14:29]  * Superhuman gotta run
[14:38] <Kilos> inetpro go home before the rain starts again
[14:39] <Kilos> weve had 40mm since midnight last night till now
[14:51] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed sorry to worry you, do the 14.04 dev team work on irc?
[14:52] <Golynx> o/
[14:52] <tumbleweed> yes
[14:53] <Kilos> is anyone allowed there tumbleweed i would like to hear if they can get a d-link dwm-156 working on 14.04
[14:53] <Kilos> hi Golynx you late
[14:53] <Kilos> was a guy here wanted php help
[14:54] <Kilos> laravel and solarium integration. PHP dev stuff.
[14:54] <Golynx> oh, i didnt know i was of any use here lol
[14:54] <Kilos> ah
[14:55] <Kilos> everyone is of use at one time or another
[14:55] <Kilos> you gotta be patient
[14:55] <Golynx> Xethron loves laravel :)
[14:55] <Golynx> ya thats true
[14:55] <Xethron> ?
[14:55] <tumbleweed> Kilos: I'm afraid there isn't really a good place for discussing things like that
[14:56] <Kilos> suggestions tumbleweed ?
[14:56] <Golynx> Xethron lol was just kidding, sorry :p
[14:56] <tumbleweed> Kilos: what works? what doesn't work?
[14:56] <Kilos> burn the modem?
[14:56] <Xethron> haha, just catching up on the conversation quick
[14:56] <tumbleweed> it takes kernel support for the serial interfaces (or ethernet)
[14:56] <Kilos> 12.04 and 13.10 dont even see it
[14:56] <Xethron> and yeah, I "loves" Laravel :D
[14:57] <tumbleweed> possibly usb-mode-switch support
[14:57]  * Xethron gets back to his Laravel
[14:57] <tumbleweed> and possibly modem-manager support
[14:57] <Kilos> where do i find them please tumbleweed
[14:57] <Golynx> i saw it on your website , so i assumed the obvious lol
[14:58] <Kilos> bought my first new modem and it dont work
[14:58] <tumbleweed> Kilos: questions like that aren't welcome in the ubuntu-devel IRC channel
[14:58] <tumbleweed> people have work to do, they can't handle support requests
[14:58] <Kilos> oh my
[14:58] <tumbleweed> #ubuntu is your best hope
[14:58] <tumbleweed> or askubuntu.com
[14:59] <Kilos> ok ty
[15:02] <Kilos> whew #ubuntu is frightening
[15:03] <Golynx> lol
[15:03] <Golynx> its took me almost a whole Saturday to finally get help in there
[15:03] <Xethron> lol
[15:04] <Kilos> they part/join quicker than i can read
[15:07] <Golynx> i made a trick where i singled out the brainy types in the channel, then questioned them about my issue until they replied. Well one of them :)
[15:08] <Kilos> lol
[15:08] <Golynx> its a jungle out there lol
[15:08] <Kilos> !offtopic
[15:08] <Kilos> what is that
[16:39] <Kilos> i give up on #ubuntu
[16:43] <Wraz> Why ?
[16:44] <Kilos> i cant keep up
[16:45] <Kilos> have you ever asked for help there Wraz ?
[16:45] <Kilos> and if they dont know they dont tell you , you just wait and wait and read yourself blind
[16:49] <magespawn> good evening
[16:49] <somaunn> magespawn: hi
[16:49] <somaunn> Kilos: hi
[16:50] <somaunn> inetpro: hi
[16:50] <magespawn> hi somaunn
[16:50] <somaunn> Squirm: hi
[16:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[16:50] <Kilos> hi somaunn inetpro
[16:50] <somaunn> what's on the desk here
[16:51] <Kilos> we waiting for 14.04
[16:55] <somaunn> Kilos: you will wait long long long
[16:56] <Kilos> no man its out next month
[16:56] <Kilos> i think someone said the 15th
[16:56] <somaunn> hmmm good
[16:57] <somaunn> i've installed 13.10 on my friend laptop
[16:57] <somaunn> looks good now
[16:57] <somaunn> ever improving
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat now. wbb when finished
[16:59] <Kilos> be good guys
[17:03] <somaunn> tx Kilos
[17:14] <magespawn> stupid tablet, suddenly decides that wifi is available and switches off the 3g
[17:24] <Kilos> wb som
[17:24] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:25] <Kilos> hows things there magespawn
[17:29] <Wraz> nope.
[17:31] <magespawn> good and you Kilos ?
[17:31] <Kilos> good ty magespawn
[17:32] <magespawn> what were you trying to do with the hex editor
[17:32] <magespawn> ?
[17:34] <Kilos> fis modems
[17:34] <Kilos> fix as well
[17:35] <Kilos> remember the e220 used to disconnect and then needed to be moved to another port before it would work again
[17:35] <Kilos> now its been online all day
[17:35] <Kilos> but i thought i had killed it completely
[17:36] <Kilos> then found some site about bricked e220 and got his software and updated it
[17:37] <Kilos> now i gotta try sort a new telkom d-link
[17:37] <Kilos> it never ends
[17:38] <Kilos> wb georgl
[17:42] <magespawn> Kilos, do you know where wget puts the downloads? i forget
[17:42] <Kilos> in home magespawn
[17:42] <magespawn> cool ty brb
[17:42] <Kilos> yw
[17:46] <magespawn> nope not there
[17:46] <Golynx> Kilos i got mine in /home/username
[17:47] <Kilos> what was it magespawn
[17:47] <Kilos> ya maybe in /home/mage/
[17:47] <magespawn> Golynx, that is what i thought too but no
[17:48] <Kilos> if its a fancy file it might be hidden
[17:48] <Kilos> tick view hidden
[17:48] <magespawn> no found it just had a strange file name
[17:49] <Kilos> where?
[17:49] <magespawn> in /home/magespawn
[17:49] <magespawn> i found this site http://www.it-ebooks.info/
[17:49] <Kilos> ah sorry then i steared you wrong
[17:50] <Kilos> whats there?
[17:51] <magespawn> free download for various computer books
[17:53] <superfly> wget puts the downloads where you run it from
[17:53] <superfly> it's a command line tool, that's how they work
[17:54] <magespawn> thanks superfly, that makes sense
[17:55] <Kilos> ah ty superfly
[17:57] <Golynx> superfly: so if the wget is run from a different user, it will put the downloaded file in that users directory ?
[17:58] <superfly> Golynx: no, it'll put the download where you ran it from, like I said.
[17:58] <Golynx> hmm okay ty
[18:01] <Golynx> nice, if i change directory to /home/user/Desktop/ it will put it there too
[18:02] <magespawn> superfly why do you prefer drupal over joomla! ?
[18:02] <superfly> magespawn: it has a better codebase, it doesn't embed the URLs in the database, it has less security flaws, it is more flexible
[18:02] <superfly> in short.
[18:03] <magespawn> presumable when you are logged in as another user then the default terminal would be in the users /home
[18:03] <magespawn> i see, is one easier to use than the other?
[18:04] <superfly> magespawn: I haven't used joomla enough to know, to be honest. I used it a long time ago, and at the time decided Drupal was a better fit for me. I haven't found a reason to ditch Drupal yet.
[18:05] <magespawn> right, the company i work for now, all there sites are in joomla!, so i am trying to learn that at the moment
[18:13] <theblazehen> I hate being a procrastinator...
[18:13] <Kilos> hehe
[18:14] <Kilos> what now theblazehen
[18:14] <theblazehen> Kilos, english review due tomorrow
[18:14] <Kilos> eish
[18:14] <theblazehen> but teacher said "don't do it the day before", so I will do it on the day :p
[18:15] <Kilos> yip last minute things arent good
[18:15] <theblazehen> Well gonna be last 45 minute actually...
[18:15] <theblazehen> lol, been doing fine so far
[18:15] <Kilos> eish
[18:17] <theblazehen> lol, I went to nationals last year for eskom science fair, with last minute work

[18:17] <magespawn> a friend of mine who has two masters degrees and is working on her doctorate, always procrastinates, says she works better under pressure
[18:18] <magespawn> cool theblazehen
[18:18] <theblazehen> magespawn, I tell myself that too, sometimes
[18:36] <magespawn> ahh well as long as the work gets done
[18:40] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:40] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[18:40] <magespawn> good night Kilos
[18:40] <Golynx> night Kilos
[18:42] <magespawn> he can be quick sometimes
[18:46] <Golynx> yeah lol
[19:42] <magespawn> i am also off for now, good night all
[20:43] <Private_User> evening all
[21:48] <nuvolari> o/


[03:16] <tirchik[m]> olla
[03:23] <tirchik[m]> can someone help me please??!!
[03:23] <tirchik[m]> i have this card http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/proaudio/infrasonic-quartet.html and need a ubuntu driver
[03:24] <tirchik[m]> anyone a suggestion or experience with this card
[03:26] <tomreyn> tirchik[m]: do you have the   lspci -nn    output for it?
[03:29] <tirchik[m]> <tomreyn "tirchik: do you have the   lspci"> i dont install ubuntu now, first i need to know how awkward it is to install this card!
[03:30] <tomreyn> you can just boot the installer and run the command from a terminal
[03:30] <tirchik[m]> i found now this artikle.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/345987/problem-with-infrasonic-quartet-and-alsa
[03:31] <tirchik[m]> i´m not a very good linux user ;) so if its to complicated to install it then i need to buy another one...lol
[03:33] <corrinado[m]> As tomreyn said… you can live-boot from a USB with the card installed. Then run the command they supplied to get some info
[03:35] <tirchik[m]> <corrinado[m] "As tomreyn said… you can live-bo"> ok... thanks for the first help, i´ll try the klive boot....
[03:36] <tirchik[m]> is there a difference between normal ubuntu and the studio?
[03:37] <tirchik[m]> not realy, or??? its the same unix?! so i get the same informations?!
[03:37] <corrinado[m]> They'll both give you the same response to that card.
[03:38] <tirchik[m]> thanks a lot!
[03:38] <corrinado[m]> There are differences, but US is built upon Ubuntu
[22:56] <dragon135> heya !
[22:57] <dragon135> where's our pub to chat that :
[22:57] <dragon135> https://open.spotify.com/track/3nNNYRBtkNsKjertmtTRMO?si=4917b8b0607547f8
[22:57] <dragon135> .....
[23:26] <dragon135> bk, there an equalizer for jack outputs ? i want to cut basses but keepin workflow without affect it, any help ?


[03:38] <ddunne> so, i have a question if anyone is currently on...
[03:39] <ddunne> i'm looking at the wiki page, and the art.ubuntu.com page, and i'm not really finding anything that says, "we need this, who wants to do it?"  do we have a list somewhere on projects that need to be worked on?
[01:12] <artnay> ddunne: as far as I know, there's no up-to-date list available. maybe you should post mailing lists about it.
[01:12] <artnay> artwork needs a good project leader or a few...
[01:13] <artnay> actually I think Canonical should hire at least one full-time developer dedicated to artwork
[03:45] <ddunne_> So, should we just create a section on the wiki page with projects on it and more or less some specifics?
[03:46] <ddunne_> i mean, there's already the projects section, but all it has is the humility icons project
[03:58] <artnay> it should have also calendar, gtk and metacity themes etc.
[03:59] <artnay> default backgrounds included?
[03:59] <artnay> the current default is quite messy and breezy doesn't have a consistent theme
[04:01] <artnay> imo the current splash theme is nice, but when it comes to gdm and desktop
[04:01] <artnay> I'd rather see i.e. simple human gdm and background based on that (actually I guess the background was first and GDM was made after that)
[04:02] <artnay> then colours would match all the way from booting to desktop
[04:03] <artnay> what do you guys think?
[04:04] <artnay> I might be missing something since my system is dist-upgraded since warty, but hopefully breezy CDs will ship soon
[04:09] <artnay> I'm just curious how will artteam and desktopteam co-operate from now on
[04:09] <artnay> and where is ubuntulog's log located?
[04:09] <ddunne_> which log?
[04:10] <artnay> log of #ubuntu-artwork
[04:10] <ddunne_> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:11] <artnay> ok, thanks. where did you get the URL?
[04:11] <ddunne_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam
[04:11] <artnay> guess I haven't been paying enough attention
[04:11] <artnay> ;)
[04:11] <artnay> that too obvious
[04:12] <ddunne_> so as far as projects, we need to add [calendar, gtk, and metacity] ?
[04:12] <ddunne_> i just happen to have that page open
[04:13] <artnay> and AUC should be promoted, I can't find a link there from www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:14] <artnay> I mean, let's make it more public
[04:14] <ddunne_> AUC?
[04:14] <artnay> art.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <ddunne_> i think that until we get a little more organized, we should keep that on the dl as just a repository, but that's just me
[04:17] <artnay> that's an idea, too. AUC needs more functions (and content!) anyway, so maybe it could be announced later on when some work has been done to it
[04:18] <artnay> it's not well-known at the moment. people keep sending their work to gnome-look, kde-look, deviantart, their own websites etc.
[04:19] <artnay> maybe we should mail those guys and ask for their permission to add their contributions to AUC
[04:22] <artnay> there's 23+1 people involved in artteam according to wiki, but still it's quiet in here and lists :(
[04:23] <artnay> what do you think about the idea of asking people to share their work in AUC?
[04:23] <ddunne_> that would be damn fine, but i doubt they would do the work, i think we just need someone in charge of contacting people that submit to those sources, and getting their permission/ask them to submit their work to auc
[04:24] <ddunne_> well, i am just getting unburdened from bieng basically snowed under at work from hurricanes katrina and rita
[04:24] <ddunne_> so that's why i'm chimimg in so late
[04:25] <artnay> and artteam should also be in contact with desktop team as it seems they share the same goals
[04:27] <artnay> at leasts goals should be separated so that the same thing won't be done twice
[04:30] <ddunne_> i think that ours is definately a less intergal role, we make pictures, they write code... but we should have an...emmisary or something to coordinate and offer up stuff that we came up with definately
[04:31] <artnay> ddunne: what's your nick or have you registered to forums/AUC?
[04:33] <artnay> I think desktop team's goals could be something like what's shown in ~ by default, how to make nautilus to fit ubuntu ideology, how to install stuff from AUC easily etc.
[04:47] <artnay> oh yeah, and at least mozilla fx and tb should have ubuntu-like icons that would match to icons used in GNOME
[04:59] <ddunne_> haven't registered on the forums, but it will be my wikiname, and for mozilla stuff, we should just come up with a mozilla theme to be used for both with ubuntu
[05:17] <artnay> ddunne: yeah, maybe that's true. people who have used fx with default theme should feel familiar with the GUI that ubuntu presentes to them, so...
[05:26] <ddunne_> also, if we just do a theme, we can put it on update.mozilla.org, and get a little free press so to speak
[05:27] <derek[] > Hi :-)
[05:31] <artnay> and how about terminal theme? should it be just plain black on white?
[05:32] <artnay> it would be nice to have a consistent colour/shape theme for all the common applications
[05:34] <artnay> btw, if you're using irssi, here's a nice brownish theme for it: http://www.irssi.org/themes/ash.png (http://www.irssi.org/themes/ash.theme)
[05:37] <derek[] > hi artnay
[05:37] <artnay> hey derek[]
[05:38] <artnay> it's been lively day here on #ubuntu-artwork today ;)
[05:40] <derek[] > :)
[05:40] <derek[] > That's nice to hear!
[06:28] <ddunne_> yeah, we've been coming up with a list of projects that we need to work on, because as far as i can tell, we have basically no direction or guideline for what needs to be done that we can find on our pages
[06:30] <ddunne_> so far, we've come up with a few projects that we should make some wiki pages for and link to on our artteam page [calendar, gtk, metacity, mozilla themes]
[06:32] <artnay> what about konsole theme?
[06:32] <artnay> gnome-terminal of course
[06:35] <artnay> and other "miscallenous" programs
[06:36] <ddunne_> i actually haven't delved into linux that much, and all i have done is in gnome, so judging by that auspicious looking k instead of a c, i'm guessing that it is for kde
[06:36] <ddunne_> my vote is that we just focus on what is provided on the install disk, all other things come in second
[06:37] <artnay> ddunne: yeah, gnome-terminal is included (of course) by default
[06:37] <ddunne_> indeed it is
[06:37] <artnay> I prefer KDE over GNOME, but as G stays as a default DE for ubuntu, then it needs to be polished
[06:38] <artnay> as many default packages as possible
[06:38] <artnay> people say they don't like the brownish theme, but I guess they just mean the current default theme
[06:39] <ddunne_> that's what i'm talking about, once we manage to get rolling, we'll probably have to split into ubuntu and kubuntu art teams, but that would be much farther down the line
[06:39] <artnay> http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/screenshots/CL_Cairo-Human.jpg
[06:39] <artnay> take that as an example, I think that's nicely done GNOME
[06:40] <artnay> I think kubuntu-artteam exists already
[06:40] <artnay> not sure though, but I recall reading something about it (forum/lists)
[06:40] <ddunne_> yeah, that's sexy
[06:41] <ddunne_> there looks to be a kubuntu artwork page, but no actual team
[06:42] <artnay> I use KDE but I just can't use the default blue theme
[06:42] <artnay> brown is nice, and it's easy to tweak KDE to use it
[06:43] <ddunne_> i have k installed on this box, i just don't use it, it's a little to goofy for me, gnome just feels better
[06:44] <ddunne_> but i've been a windows admin forever, and am now just hitting up linux
[06:44] <artnay> I feel that GNOME restricts user to do so many basic things that I can't stand it
[06:44] <artnay> that's because it's "easier to use" then. well, whatever. it's nice to have choice
[06:45] <artnay> enough for now. I have to go and see my girl friend. bye all!
[06:45] <ddunne_> adios