[12:02] <MNO> wow that system updater is taking hunderd of MB's of space, and its only halfway thru :0
[12:07] <sas171> ok, mp3splt rules :D
[12:07] <Mitja> How do I generate or obtain xml2-config?
[12:08] <_maverick> how do i programme a logfile to log a request for my server using c++
[12:09] <bimberi> Mitja: libxml2-dev (tip: package contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com )
[12:09] <Mitja> bimberi: thank you
[12:09] <bimberi> Mitja: yw :)
[12:10] <_chris_> hey there, anyone of you guys ever installed eclipse and got it to run anywhere else but the home directory?
[12:13] <benkong2> could someone tell me how to prevent kmix from starting each time I log into Kubuntu?
[12:19] <hollywoodb> benkong2: iirc you just right-click it -> quit ... kde should save your session w/o kmix running
[12:26] <benkong2> hollywoodb: tried that but it still reopens. I also checked the rc.d scripts not there either.
[12:29] <_root_> hi!
[12:30] <edward0> hi
[12:31] <edward0> hi
[12:32] <_tiberius> howdy
[12:34] <mallah> hallo zusammen
[12:45] <slow-motion> n8
[12:50] <_tiberius> could anyone tell me where to find System Tools > Configuration Editor in KDE?
[12:51] <edward0> heh
[12:51] <edward0> what is configuration editor?
[12:52] <prefers> just checking out the Kubuntu livecd, seems kind of sparse in comparison to knoppix
[12:52] <edward0> _tiberius: where did you get that from?
[12:52] <bimberi> prefers: 'less busy' you mean :)
[12:52] <_tiberius> edward: tryin to add some binds, its in the forums
[12:53] <edward0> oh
[12:53] <prefers> can the kubuntu livecd be used to install to harddrive?
[12:54] <edward0> _tiberius: kcontrol / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Shortcuts?
[12:54] <_tiberius> not the Live CD
[12:55] <bimberi> prefers: no
[12:55] <prefers> just curious, co-worker gave me the livecd after it did not run on his system
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> is there an actual sub section for multiverse? I tried enabling it but I only get error after sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <bimberi> prefers: ah k,  There's a separate install CD
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> you should never surf the web as root..
[12:57] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: put the error and your sources.list on the pastebin - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:58] <prefers> ok, just checking, thought while I had it up might throw it on the spare hard drive, but not today, will have to switch to kubuntu if ubuntu/gnome ever makes mono a mandatory packagee
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/545864
[01:03] <hatake_kakashi> maybe I should start commenting out the dupes bimberi, that may solve it
[01:05] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: nm, I think I got it :) I uncommented the line above to the one where I inserted the universe one
[01:05] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: yes, lines 28 and 29 duplicate other lines (except for multiverse) - suggest removing them and adding ' multiverse' to the two lines above
[01:05] <hatake_kakashi> :)
[01:05] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: thanks
[01:05] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: np :)
[01:06] <edward0> how do you remove that google search bar on konqueror?
[01:07] <edward0> ah I see nm
[01:08] <edward0> have to remove it from configure toolbar dialog/search toolbar since it's not under Settings/Toolbars :\
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: btw, do you happen to have a clue on how to fix up the failsafe on the X for breezy? I did an apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, now I lost that failsafe access
[01:12] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: sorry i don't know - hopefully others might
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: bah oh well :) worth the try to ask
[01:43] <deacon> Where is the config file for CUPS?  I hosed my config via the worthless GUI manager and need to fix it.
[01:44] <jpowers> deacon: probably /etc/cups/, but I'm not sure which conf file you need.
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> anyone on an intel CPU used the icc yet?
[01:45] <farous> icc?
[01:45] <farous> !info icc
[01:46] <jpowers> icc is the intel c compiler
[01:46] <jpowers> I've used it for hello world stuff
[01:46] <farous> thanx jpowers
[01:46] <jpowers> but I haven't tried making it my main compiler.
[01:46] <jpowers> has it gotten more gcc compliant since v7?
[01:48] <jpowers> I think the gentoo forums have a lot of stuff about icc
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> jpowers: ahh ok, not sure about it, just wanting to ask
[01:48] <Reborn> hello
[01:48] <Reborn> i have what i hope is an easy question
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> don't ask to ask
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> :)
[01:49] <jpowers> hatake_kakashi: you could try over there, but I doubt that it's a drop-in replacement for gcc
[01:49] <vini12341234> hi, my kubuntu will not show any windows computers in the network because "i do not have the proper permissions", and i NEED a file off my xp server downstairs
[01:49] <Reborn> is there a program bundled with kubuntu or what program do i need to acquire to view my current wlan stats? ie log into another access point or recconect to my current one
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> jpowers: heh, oh well, I might give it a try for certain pars to make it optimised (hopefully what they say about icc is right)
[01:50] <Reborn> vini12341234 smb://username:password@localip?
[01:50] <hatake_kakashi> vini12341234: smbtree
[01:50] <vini12341234> its asking for a username, password, and domain
[01:50] <vini12341234> but i dont use domain, its only my house
[01:50] <jpowers> Reborn: do you need a gui?
[01:50] <vini12341234> and i tried every name i could think of
[01:50] <Reborn> i guess i don't need a gui... but one would be nice
[01:50] <hatake_kakashi> vini12341234: you need to edit your settings somewhere
[01:50] <jpowers> Reborn: you could just try sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[01:51] <jpowers> heh, you could _JUST_ try that :s
[01:51] <vini12341234> where? thats why im here, i dont know what to do
[01:51] <hatake_kakashi> vini12341234: ok, first of all share it on xp so that its under the same workgroup as your linux box
[01:51] <Reborn> i'm used to suse... it had a program that was in kde bar that i could monitor the connection with
[01:52] <farous_away> reborrn i think you are talking about kwifi
[01:52] <Reborn> ah
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> Reborn: there is gkrellm which is kind of an alternative
[01:52] <jpowers> Reborn: you can monitor the connection using knemo
[01:53] <Mitja> Why krita won't save any files?
[01:54] <jpowers> Reborn: if you want to monitor your wireless settings specifically, you can use the KWireLess applet, I think.
[01:54] <Reborn> and will those allow me to see available open networks and allow me to connect with them? ie if i go to a place that offers free wifi
[01:54] <jpowers> Reborn: no.
[01:54] <Reborn> what do i need for that?
[01:54] <jpowers> kwifi might, I never tried that one.
[01:55] <Reborn> the way it is set up right now is it automatically logs in at startup
[01:55] <jpowers> what automatically logs in at startup?
[01:55] <farous_away> Reborn: best bet is use adept and search for wifi managers
[01:55] <farous_away> !wifi
[01:55] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:55] <farous_away> ^  ^
[01:55] <Reborn> okperhaps not logs in... it establishes a connection?
[01:56] <NRG88> where can i manage my startup items?
[01:56] <farous_away> network manager does what you want on gnome. do not know if it will work with kde
[01:57] <jpowers> oooh
[01:57] <jpowers> wifi radar looks promising
[01:57] <Reborn> yeah
[01:57] <Reborn> i'm installing that now
[01:57] <Reborn> was just going to say the same thing
[01:57] <jpowers> Reborn: please let me know how seems to work for you
[01:58] <farous_away> !java
[01:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:58] <jpowers> Reborn: I've been using CLI tools to make the search and switch
[01:58] <Reborn> well
[01:58] <Reborn> it refuses to launch
[01:58] <Reborn> but other then that it works great
[01:59] <jpowers> heh
[01:59] <Reborn> the icon does a half a bounce and dissapears
[01:59] <jpowers> hrm
[02:00] <jpowers> have you tried launching it from a terminal?
[02:00] <jpowers> oh
[02:00] <jpowers> it needs root privs
[02:00] <jpowers> so you need to change the icon to kdesu it
[02:01] <Reborn> however if i sudo wifi-radar it works
[02:01] <Reborn> it is setup now to sudo -S wifi-radar
[02:02] <jpowers> or install gksudo, I think
[02:03] <jpowers> yeah, editing the icon and changing gksudo -S wifi-radar to kdesu wifi-radar seems to work perfectly.
[02:04] <Reborn> trying..
[02:04] <Reborn> nice
[02:04] <Reborn> works like a champ
[02:05] <Reborn> i was thinking if would be a more commonly needed tool
[02:05] <Reborn> oh well
[02:05] <Reborn> it works
[02:05] <Reborn> and that is good
 thanks jpowers, and everybody
[02:13] <jpowers> that's what I want to see ;)
[02:23] <nat> hi, are they a way to open a ssh tunnel on the boot ?
[02:24] <nat> hi, are they a way to open a port forwarding on boot ?
[02:29] <JGoblin> you could write a startup script
[02:29] <JGoblin> there is a way, i forgot how to do that
[02:36] <Mitja> Does anyone use krita?
[02:46] <fatejudger> the sound on my audigy 2 nx doesn't seem to be working in Dapper ever since a few days ago
[02:46] <fatejudger> is there some known bug right now?
[02:55] <_user> hello
[02:55] <farous_away> !opera
[02:55] <ubotu> somebody said opera was not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:56] <farous_away> ok anyone if i can set personal folder in opera like in firefox
[03:06] <_slash> hi guys
[03:06] <_slash> anyone awake?
[03:07] <farous_away> hi _slash
[03:07] <farous_away> !breeze
[03:07] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous_away
[03:07] <farous_away> !breezee
[03:07] <ubotu> farous_away: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:07] <_slash> hi farous_away
[03:07] <_slash> I have a question
[03:07] <_slash> I can't make my tftp server work
[03:08] <_slash> it always timeout when put or get file
[03:08] <farous_away> i have not used ftp in a long while so can not help sorry
[03:08] <_slash> ah, thanks, np
[03:09] <farous_away> slah try asking the question here or ubuntu channel if someone can help they will
[03:10] <_slash> k
[03:14] <farous_away> !tftp
[03:14] <ubotu> farous_away: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <farous_away> !info tftp
[03:14] <ubotu> tftp: (Trivial file transfer protocol client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.17-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[03:14] <farous_away> _slash: have you tried the forums
[03:15] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to tell ALSA which sound card to use as the default?
[03:15] <NRG88> help, i removed adept..
[03:15] <fatejudger> NRG88: lol
[03:15] <_slash> which forums?
[03:15] <_slash> farous_away: which forums?
[03:15] <NRG88> by removing some packages
[03:15] <NRG88> what sould i do?
[03:15] <NRG88> no adept
[03:15] <NRG88> :(
[03:15] <fatejudger> NRG88: sudo apt-get install adep
[03:15] <fatejudger> *adept
[03:16] <NRG88> no terminal
[03:16] <NRG88> no apt-get
[03:16] <NRG88> i canceled the removal
[03:17] <NRG88> but i was to late
[03:17] <JGoblin> is it a good idead to remove apt-get ?
[03:17] <fatejudger> JGoblin: wtf?
[03:17] <NRG88> i removed some packages
[03:17] <fatejudger> NRG88: yes, I got that
[03:17] <fatejudger> NRG88: and I just told you which command to use to get Adept back
[03:17] <fatejudger> NRG88: now get to typing
[03:18] <NRG88> but where? i don't have konsole
[03:18] <fatejudger> NRG88: what do you mean you don't have konsole?
[03:18] <rj_> yeah
[03:19] <rj_> how can you NOT have console?
[03:19] <NRG88> KDEInit could not launch 'konsole'.:
[03:19] <NRG88> Could not find 'konsole' executable.
[03:19] <fatejudger> I'm wondering if he removed Konsole
[03:19] <fatejudger> lol
[03:19] <fatejudger> NRG88: ok, you're going to need to manually get to the terminal
[03:20] <JGoblin> press ctrl+alt+f1, remember to press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[03:20] <NRG88> ok
[03:20] <fatejudger> NRG88: wait!
[03:20] <fatejudger> NRG88: that's isn't right at all
[03:20] <NRG88> i think it removed some pieces of KDE to
[03:20] <JGoblin> there should be a shell - why he can install it from there
[03:20] <fatejudger> NRG88: ctrl+alt+(enter a terminal number)
[03:21] <fatejudger> NRG88: you're currently at terminal 1
[03:21] <fatejudger> NRG88: so go to terminal 2 or something
[03:21] <fatejudger> NRG88: then do the same thing to get back to terminal 1
[03:21] <JGoblin> is he? i am at 7
[03:21] <NRG88> ok
[03:21] <fatejudger> JGoblin: well why are you at terminal 7?
[03:21] <rj_> by default teh GUI is at 7
[03:21] <fatejudger> really?
[03:21] <JGoblin> jop
[03:21] <rj_> yeah
[03:21] <fatejudger> hmm
[03:22] <JGoblin> phew i thought i told him crap :)
[03:22] <fatejudger> JGoblin: why in the hell do you want to remove apt-get?
[03:22] <rj_> what?
[03:22] <rj_> remove apt-get?
[03:22] <JGoblin> no - i thought NRG88 did hehe
[03:22] <fatejudger> I don't understand what is up with everyone asking whether they can remove shit
[03:22] <fatejudger> JGoblin: oh, I see
[03:22] <rj_> what, is it causing dependency problems?
[03:22] <JGoblin> i don't want to remove anything
[03:22] <rj_> im kidding, apt cant cause dependency problems
[03:22] <rj_> well
[03:22] <rj_> it can
[03:23] <fatejudger> I've heard some pretty stupid questions asked in here, so I tend to take most seriously
[03:23] <rj_> but thats like saying computers cause viruses
[03:23] <rj_> fatejudger: yeah, tell me about it
[03:23] <JGoblin> NRG88: 88 the number - or 88 the "meaning"?
[03:23] <rj_> but if ya treat everyone like a n00b, it offends some people
[03:25] <JGoblin> it educates people to refine their questions
[03:36] <NRG88> hey guys
[03:36] <NRG88> i'm back :(
[03:36] <NRG88> only not in kubuntu
[03:36] <NRG88> apt-get: no command
[03:37] <NRG88> it doesn't recognize apt-get at all
[03:37] <NRG88> and i wasn't able to return
[03:37] <NRG88> so reboot
[03:37] <NRG88> and no KDE
[03:37] <NRG88> and no x server...
[03:38] <NRG88> and now? can i install apt somehow?
[03:38] <NRG88> or x server?
[03:39] <NRG88> anyone here?
[03:40] <JGoblin> hmn
[03:42] <bimberi> NRG88: does dpkg work? - just type 'dpkg' in a terminal
[03:42] <NRG88> haven't tried, if it works, what should i do?
[03:43] <NRG88> i have the cd
[03:43] <bimberi> NRG88: it can be used to install packages
[03:44] <NRG88> from the cd?
[03:44] <bimberi> NRG88: you want to get apt-get back, then you can fully restore
[03:44] <NRG88> cool
[03:44] <NRG88> how? :D
[03:44] <bimberi> NRG88: yes, or if the internet connection works from the net
[03:45] <bimberi> NRG88: have you updated since installing from cd?
[03:45] <NRG88> yes
[03:46] <bimberi> NRG88: ok anyway we can try the cd - insert it and 'cd /media/cdrom'
[03:46] <NRG88> then install packeges, with dpkg -i package.name.deb?
[03:48] <hayden> how can i set a keyboard shortcut to show the desktop?
[03:50] <bimberi> heh, bumping that button wasn't too good :P
[03:50] <NRG88> bimberi is it ok, to install apt? then i can use sudo apt-get, right?
[03:50] <bimberi> NRG88: yes, that's right
[03:51] <bimberi> NRG88: find the package on the cd and install it
[03:51] <NRG88> ok, tomorrow, it's almost 5 am :D
[03:52] <bimberi> NRG88: pool/mail/a/apt/ is the directory
[03:52] <NRG88> first i just wanted to install a vmware wokrstation :(
[03:52] <NRG88> thanks :)
[03:52] <NRG88> it said, that there were no kernel modules for it
[03:52] <bimberi> NRG88: it might ask for dependencies, so you'll have to navigate around the CD to find them
[03:53] <NRG88> ok
[03:53] <NRG88> hm
[03:53] <jpowers> NRG88: you should read the vmware kubuntu faq
[03:53] <NRG88> there is one?
[03:53] <NRG88> where?
[03:53] <jpowers> !vmware
[03:53] <NRG88> hm
[03:53] <bimberi> !+vmware
[03:53] <ubotu> somebody said vmware was for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware  read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily, or offtopic for #debian, being as it is proprietary. You paid for it; get support from the vendor. You DID pay for it, right?
[03:55] <NRG88> hm, i used vmware 5.5
[03:55] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> when is kernel 2.8 coming out?
[03:55] <NRG88> was that the problem?
[03:55] <jpowers> you may have just needed linux-headers installed
[03:55] <NRG88> damn
[03:55] <NRG88> ok, thanks for the help
[03:56] <jpowers> I'm looking for the url
[03:57] <NRG88> the vmware kubuntu faq?
[03:58] <jpowers> yep
[03:58] <NRG88> http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2005/11/getting_vmware.html
[03:58] <NRG88> is this the one?
[03:59] <NRG88> jpowers?
[03:59] <jpowers> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare?highlight=%28vmware%29
[03:59] <jpowers> I think that's the one I remember using
[04:00] <NRG88> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:00] <NRG88> i write it like this?
[04:00] <NRG88> uname-r?
[04:00] <NRG88> uname -r?
[04:00] <jpowers> yeah
[04:00] <jpowers> uname -r
[04:00] <jpowers> in backticks
[04:01] <NRG88> thanks
[04:01] <NRG88> by, goonnight
[04:01] <jpowers> night
[04:04] <Reborn> hey i have my laptop with kubuntu installed on it networked to my xp machine and want to view some videos that are on the network without having to copy the files over to the laptop first... is this possible?
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> Reborn: not with konqueror afaik
[04:08] <Reborn> i've tried mplayer and vlc
[04:10] <hayden> !java
[04:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:17] <jpowers> reborn should try mount
[04:23] <matvei> plop
[04:23] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> wow, not much movement here
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> ECHO
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> echo
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> echo
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> echo
[04:24] <matvei> I don't try to find jde package ... Is There in kubuntu ?
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> !java
[04:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> or
[04:24] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> !seveas
[04:24] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:27] <bimberi> red_herring: a simple !pindrop would suffice :)
[04:27] <matvei> non free deb sources don't exist in kubuntu ?
[04:28] <bimberi> matvei: they do, but aren't enabled by default
[04:28] <bimberi> !universe
[04:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:28] <bimberi> oops, universe is free, multiverse is nonfree
[04:29] <bimberi> matvei: and i was wrong anyway, the 'restricted' repo is enabled by default but is nonfree
[04:29] <bimberi> not much in it though
[04:29] <bimberi> !components
[04:29] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[04:31] <jarr3d> hey, whats the command again for root?
[04:31] <bimberi> sudo
[04:32] <bimberi> jarr3d: kdesu if you're running a gui app
[04:32] <jarr3d> thanks
[04:32] <bimberi> !kdesu
[04:32] <ubotu> [kdesu]  :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[04:32] <bimberi> jarr3d: np :)
[04:32] <jarr3d> another question... is there something like notepad in kubuntu
[04:32] <jpowers> lots of things
[04:33] <jpowers> try kedit
[04:33] <jpowers> it's pretty light, IIRC
[04:33] <jarr3d> cool
[04:35] <jarr3d> how do i start apache?
[04:36] <bimberi> jarr3d: 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache start' - although the installer should start it and make it so that it will start on boot
[04:36] <jarr3d> apache2ctl start does same thing?
[04:37] <bimberi> jarr3d: yep (btw that would be 'apache2' start above in that case)
[04:37] <bimberi> er, 'apache2 start'
[04:38] <jpowers> is invoke-rc.d special?
[04:38] <jpowers> I always just did 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start'
[04:38] <jpowers> is it basically the same?
[04:39] <bimberi> jpowers: it is, but invoke-rc.d is (as i understand it) the debian way
[04:39] <jpowers> ah
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> is there anyway to make kubuntu use utf8 as default charset, rather than all these other iso ones?
[04:41] <jarr3d> how do i startb kedit?
[04:42] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> kedit
[04:43] <jarr3d> ?
[04:44] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> to start apache, type in "apache"
[04:44] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> to start kedit, type in "kedit"
[04:44] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> :-)
[04:45] <jarr3d> sudo: kedit: command not found
[04:45] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> then ya gotta install it
[04:45] <bimberi> jarr3d: try 'kate' instead
[04:46] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> isnt it kwrite?
[04:46] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> or kate
[04:46] <jarr3d> ah kate, can i save as .html with it?
[04:46] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> sure
[04:46] <jarr3d> ok 1 more... how do i save it to my root folder hen its access denied
[04:46] <Kezzerxir> Hello
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> jarr3d: you have to be root
[04:47] <bimberi> jarr3d: 'kdesu kate'
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> sudo
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> sure, whatever
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> kdesu works fine
[04:47] <bimberi> no, not sudo
[04:47] <bimberi> !kdesu
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> why not sudo?
[04:47] <ubotu> somebody said kdesu was :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[04:47] <kosh> hmm I need a built in number speak translator ;)
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> ok
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> you win
[04:47] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> happy?
[04:48] <jarr3d> Access denied.
[04:48] <jarr3d> Could not write to /etc/apache2/index.html.pa
[04:48] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> kdesu kate /etc/apache2/index.html.pa
[04:48] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> that will let you do it
[04:48] <kosh> sudo does not work for gui apps because gui apps require permissions to the x server and sudo will not do that credential stuff automatically
[04:48] <kosh> kdesu will
[04:48] <Kezzerxir> Hello
[04:48] <kosh> ssh will also
[04:48] <jarr3d> hmm? i cant even save the file in the first place
[04:49] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> kosh: ssh will?
[04:49] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> ssh has nothing to do with it
[04:49] <jarr3d> ic
[04:51] <jarr3d> what does the .part mean at the end?
[04:51] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> its only part of the file
[04:51] <jarr3d> where's the other part? lol
[04:52] <jarr3d> how do i save it as just .html then?
[04:52] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> just file --> save as
[04:52] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> and just save with .html at the end
[04:53] <jarr3d> ok
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> !iTunes
[04:53] <ubotu> itunes is, like, a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[04:54] <jarr3d> ok, now i made an index.html as a test and put it in my root and i go Http:
[04:54] <jarr3d> <IP_ADDRESS>/index.html
[04:54] <jarr3d> but i dont see it
[04:54] <jarr3d> it still goes to default
[04:55] <jarr3d> is something set up wrong?
[04:55] <bimberi> jarr3d: did you put it in /var/www ?
[04:56] <jarr3d> no... where do i put thar
[04:56] <bimberi> jarr3d: put your index.html file, that is the default document root for apache2
[04:57] <bimberi> *file there
[04:57] <kosh> R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G: ssh -X someuser@someserver will forward x connections and you can use it to do local connections for instance ssh -X root@localhost
[04:57] <jarr3d> Oh ok
[04:57] <jarr3d> whats paste command?
[04:58] <bimberi> paste command? ctrl-V ?
[04:58] <jarr3d> in terminal
[04:58] <bimberi> paste command? shift-ctrl-V ?
[04:58] <bimberi> shift-ctrl-V
[04:58] <jarr3d> ok
[04:58] <R3D_|-|3RR1|\|G> or shift-ins
[05:02] <jarr3d> i put it there but i still dont see it
[05:05] <GullyFoyle> in X cut and paste is right click highlight to cut, middle  click to paste
[05:06] <GullyFoyle> i mean left-click-middle click
[05:06] <GullyFoyle> sry
[05:07] <kosh> actually that would be copy paste not cut and paste
[05:07] <GullyFoyle> right
[05:09] <jarr3d> why when i put index.html in /var/www/ it doesn't show up at http://127.0.01/index.html
[05:10] <kosh> sorry that is something I can't help with I don't use apache that way
[05:11] <jarr3d> ok, do you know how i go on my existing webpage www.ackcomputers.com and copy everything to this computer?
[05:12] <kosh> go to wherever the source code for that site is and copy all of that but wha tyou do depends on who hosts it
[05:13] <kosh> I only use apache as a security seperator for our zope apps and zope is entirely different then building tiny static sites
[05:28] <dcwckd> anyone around?
[05:29] <kosh> nope
[05:29] <dcwckd> sucks
[05:29] <kosh> I sold all of their souls for more power
[05:29] <dcwckd> kosh, can I ask ya a question?
[05:30] <kosh> sure
[05:30] <dcwckd> just installed kubuntu today
[05:30] <dcwckd> SuSE user for a loooong time
[05:30] <dcwckd> anyway
[05:30] <dcwckd> when I goto "media:/"
[05:30] <dcwckd> Only my floppy and USB key show up, no physical drives
[05:31] <dcwckd> not even my root filesystem
[05:31] <dcwckd> is my fstab fucked?
[05:31] <kosh> on mine my physical drives don't show up under media either but cdroms do when they are inserted
[05:31] <kosh> I don't think hard drives are supposed to show up
[05:31] <dcwckd> how so I see drives then?
[05:32] <jarr3d> i'm trying to rip a site with "wget -r --tries=10 http://fly.srk.fer.hr/ " how do i direct it to save where i want it
[05:32] <kosh> see your hard drives? shouldn't they just be mounted at bootup?
[05:32] <dcwckd> right
[05:32] <dcwckd> are they listed anywhere?
[05:32] <dcwckd> to view?
[05:32] <dcwckd> I want to access one of my NTFS partitions
[05:33] <dcwckd> ?
[05:33] <kosh> that I don't know, I know how to do that stuff manually
[05:34] <kosh> NTFS read only should work but you can't really write to it
[05:34] <dcwckd> I jsut want to know
[05:34] <dcwckd> whats mounted
[05:34] <kosh> in a console window type df
[05:34] <kosh> and hit enter
[05:34] <kosh> that will show everything that is mounted
[05:35] <dcwckd> ok cool
[05:35] <dcwckd> now two of my partitions are locked to root
[05:35] <kosh> huh?
[05:35] <dcwckd> they arent accesible from a non-superuser
[05:36] <dcwckd> i have to change the FSTAB mounting right?
[05:36] <kosh> that would do it
[05:36] <fatejudger> why isn't CUPS working in Dapper?
[05:37] <dcwckd> can you help me edit fstab
[05:37] <kosh> however I don't remember what it should be for a windows partition I have not mounted them in a long time
[05:37] <dcwckd> its not a windows partition
[05:37] <kosh> ntfs is not like a normal unix filesystem
[05:37] <dcwckd> its an old NTFS partition I had , from a long time ago, that has 90 gbs of live music on it
[05:37] <dcwckd> I just havent touched it
[05:37] <kosh> you have to set a umask for it so it ti will be readable by a non root user but I don't remember what that setting should be
[05:38] <dcwckd> umask or unmask
[05:38] <dcwckd> ill google t
[05:38] <kosh> umask
[05:38] <kosh> look for umask mount
[05:40] <evilh> how do i register a nick for this channel?
[05:42] <dcwckd> thanks kosh
[05:42] <dcwckd> gotta reboot for these changes to take effect
[05:42] <dcwckd> seems winblows-ish
[05:43] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to get some sort of printing working in Dapper?
[05:43] <fatejudger> because right now CUPS is completely unusable for some reason
[05:44] <jarr3d> can some one dns me
[05:45] <jarr3d> how do i find my ip in terminal?
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> anyone got ipod and got amarok to transfer music to it?
[05:48] <kosh> fatejudger: sorry I don't know, I have not used printers in years
[05:48] <kosh> jarr3d: run ifconfig
[05:49] <jarr3d> for my external?
[05:50] <jarr3d> how do i open port 80?
[05:52] <hatake_kakashi> what do you mean external? through router?
[05:52] <jarr3d> my ip that others can connect to me through over the ineternet
[05:53] <hatake_kakashi> jarr3d: and you have your computer connected through the modem/router or what?
[05:53] <jarr3d> router
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> jarr3d: check your router configs/manuals, look for a way to port forward it, etc
[05:55] <jarr3d> do i forward tcp and udf?
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way in a bash script
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to extract all the command arguments?
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> as far as i remeber it waas $0
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but it's not working :(
[06:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> furthermore where i can find the mplayer options?
[06:00] <buser> Taillia1Kubuntu: it's $1, $2, $3 etc
[06:02] <ubijtsa> $@ contains all args
[06:02] <buser> ohh, all of them together
[06:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> on linux they told me $*
[06:02] <ubijtsa> that works as well
[06:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> #linux :)
[06:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[06:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[06:03] <jarr3d> can someone please tell me the command i use with this "get -r --tries=10 http://fly.srk.fer.hr/ -o log" to direct it to a folder
[06:03] <ubijtsa> $@ quotes each arg individually, $* quotes them all as one string iirc
[06:03] <dcwckd> kosh? still there?
[06:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[06:04] <dcwckd> hey, anyone have alot of experience with amarok?
[06:07] <dcwckd> no one can help me with an amarok problem?
[06:08] <ubijtsa> buser: worth remembering is that once you get up to the tenth arg, you have to do ${10} to get it :)
[06:09] <buser> ubijitsa yes you are right
[06:12] <hayden> i downloaded a kde 3.2+ window decorator from kde-look.org, did ./configure then make, but waht do i do with it after that?
[06:12] <ubijtsa> usually one would switch to using getopt long before then
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: probably make install
[06:12] <jarr3d> grrr 1 more quick question... how to i go into /var/www with kedesu?
[06:12] <jarr3d> kdesu
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> anyone knows of a way to rip RAM video streams to a file?
[06:13] <vijay> hi, can anyone help me, how to burn downloaded packages to cd???
[06:13] <ubijtsa> vijay: use k3b ?
[06:14] <hatake_kakashi> ubijtsa: do you happen to know how?
[06:15] <vijay> ubijitsa:ok but later, will adept recognise it??
[06:15] <ubijtsa> hatake_kakashi: no, sorry.. video and audio are things I have little experience of..
[06:15] <hatake_kakashi> ubijtsa: bah, oh well thanks anyway
[06:16] <robotgeek> jarr3d: you can launch a kdesu konqueror
[06:16] <vijay> hatake_kakashi:use stream tuner
[06:16] <ubijtsa> vijay: what are you trying to do?
[06:16] <jarr3d> thjanks that was what i was looking for
[06:16] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: hmm, thanks for the heads up, going to look in to it now
[06:17] <vijay> ubijitsa:iam searching in google now, but not getting, if it fails anyway iam going to burn it using k3b
[06:18] <ubijtsa> if all you want to do is save some .debs, then you can write them to CD with k3b and install them later with dpkg or browsing to then with konqueror
[06:19] <ubijtsa> if you want to be able to insert the CD and have the packages install automatically, then you have a *lot* more to do :)
[06:21] <jarr3d> anyone recomend a place to register my domain?
[06:22] <fatejudger> godaddy.com ?
[06:22] <jarr3d> cool
[06:22] <vijay> ubijitsa:yes, but i want exactly is adept should recognise my cd, how to do it?
[06:25] <ubijtsa> you'd need to look at the structure of a ubuntu ISO, the layout of it, and mimick it with your packages. you'd have to generate the Release and Packages files etc. you'd also have to update your apt sources.list to contain a cdrom pointer.
[06:25] <vijay> ubijitsa:ok i'll try
[06:25] <ubijtsa> vijay: I still don't quite know what you are trying to achieve..
[06:26] <Red_Herring> i want rjmarsan.com
[06:26] <Red_Herring> but i dont want to pay 30 bucks a year
[06:26] <Red_Herring> godaddy.com?
[06:27] <ubijtsa> easyspace.com ?
[06:27] <Red_Herring> easyspace?
[06:27] <Red_Herring> never heard of it
[06:27] <vijay> ubijitsa:i have a limited internet connection, and i downloaded needed packages to my system and want to use them in another ubuntu system
[06:27] <Red_Herring> is it good?
[06:27] <ubijtsa> yeh, I use 'em
[06:28] <robotgeek> ubijtsa: also try yahoo small business, 2.99 a year
[06:28] <ubijtsa> vijay: I think I understand what you are trying to do now..
[06:28] <fatejudger> robotgeek: that's a limited time offer
[06:28] <fatejudger> robotgeek: they jack up the price after that
[06:28] <robotgeek> fatejudger: i bought mine for 5 years :)
[06:28] <fatejudger> lol
[06:29] <ubijtsa> vijay: I don't have any instructions for how to do that of the top of my head. I'd be tempted to write a howto though :)
[06:29] <robotgeek> ubijtsa: if you wikify it, i can script it :)
[06:30] <ubijtsa> robotgeek: *lol*
[06:30] <ubijtsa> if I get time, I may just wikify it
[06:30] <robotgeek> is this going to use apt-move stuff?
[06:30] <vijay> ubijitsa:ok, i will try in google
[06:30] <ubijtsa> my guess is, there is already several howto's, just not easy to find
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: fyi streamripper does not support rtsp, looks like I may have to do things the hard way
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> bloody propriatory crap
[06:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a reference program in linux for video editing/mixing/encoding
[06:32] <Red_Herring> sure, kino
[06:32] <Red_Herring> !kino
[06:32] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[06:32] <jarr3d> ok, i registered a domain, how do i set it up with my server now?
[06:32] <Red_Herring> well
[06:32] <Red_Herring> did they give you a server?
[06:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !kino
[06:32] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <Red_Herring> or do you have your own
[06:33] <jarr3d> i have my own
[06:33] <Red_Herring> router?
[06:33] <jarr3d> yes
[06:33] <Red_Herring> port forewarded?
[06:33] <jarr3d> yes
[06:33] <jarr3d> 80-
[06:33] <Red_Herring> then it should magically work
[06:33] <Red_Herring> jk
[06:33] <Red_Herring> but it shoudl work
[06:33] <ubijtsa> jarr3d: does the domain/hostname point at your box? :)
[06:33] <Red_Herring> assuming apache is set up
[06:34] <vijay> ubijitsa:http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:iW_nNyBPFK8J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7455.html+downloaded+packages+and+want+to+use+them+in+another+ubuntu+system&hl=en&gl=in&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
[06:34] <jarr3d> i just registered www.jarr3d.com, how do i direct that to my ip?
[06:34] <Red_Herring> ubijtsa: it really shouldnt need to
[06:34] <Red_Herring> jarr3d: what service?
[06:34] <honkzilla>  Is there a kind soul with experience getting an SMC2632W (not V2 or 3) wireless card working?
[06:34] <Red_Herring> godaddy?
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Red_Herring: is it good?
[06:34] <jarr3d> yes
[06:34] <Red_Herring> Tallia1Kubuntu: i want ta use it
[06:34] <Red_Herring> havent yet
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[06:34] <Red_Herring> sorry, dont they ask you what your ip is?
[06:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am installing now
[06:35] <jarr3d> no they didn't =/
[06:35] <Red_Herring> wow
[06:35] <Red_Herring> so nice of them
[06:35] <Red_Herring> how much was it?
[06:35] <jarr3d> maybe if i look around through my accoun t it will ask?
[06:35] <Red_Herring> i would imagine so
[06:35] <Red_Herring> jarr3d: how much do they cost
[06:35] <ubijtsa> Red_Herring: you can't just buy a domain and think it'll just work :-)
[06:35] <Red_Herring> it did for rj.selfip.com
[06:35] <Red_Herring> and that was FREE
[06:36] <ubijtsa> Red_Herring: DNS has to point a hostname at your IP before packets know how to get there :)
[06:36] <Red_Herring> i know
[06:36] <jarr3d> so what do i do from this point then?
[06:36] <Red_Herring> and all godaddy or whatever needs to know is what IP the web browser you are using is from
[06:37] <jarr3d> how do i let them know :)
[06:37] <Red_Herring> seriously, i would imagine 95% of the time the IP address of the person buying it an the server iteself are the same
[06:37] <jarr3d> probley
[06:37] <jarr3d> it should ask u
[06:38] <Red_Herring> ya
[06:38] <jarr3d> how do i give them my ip then?
[06:38] <Red_Herring> well, i never used godaddy
[06:38] <Jai> hey i need some help with kubuntu, where do get it?
[06:38] <Red_Herring> where?
[06:38] <Red_Herring> !kubuntu
[06:38] <ubotu> well, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[06:38] <Red_Herring> !iso
[06:38] <ubotu> well, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:39] <Red_Herring> !gnu
[06:39] <ubotu> from memory, gnu is gnu's not unix, see http://www.gnu.org
[06:39] <jarr3d> Red_Herring?
[06:39] <Red_Herring> sorry, had to do that last one
[06:39] <jarr3d> thats ok
[06:39] <Red_Herring> jarr3d: i never used godaddy, but i would honestly imagine it would be very clear where it is
[06:40] <jarr3d> what would i be looking for?
[06:40] <Red_Herring> a place to enter an IP address
[06:40] <Red_Herring> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[06:41] <Red_Herring> i tried to find out your ip
[06:41] <Red_Herring> this is what i got
[06:41] <Red_Herring> :
[06:41] <vijay> ubijitsa:i found a solution, first we have to burn them to a cd, then insert the cd in another system, run adept, and add the folder to repo's list
[06:41] <Red_Herring><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:41] <Red_Herring> tell me where the IP is in there!
[06:41] <jarr3d>  Dedicated/Virtual Dedicated Servers? mean anything
[06:41] <ubijtsa> vijay: sounds good :)
[06:41] <Red_Herring> you want a dediacted server
[06:42] <Kezzerxir> Hello
[06:42] <jarr3d> yes
[06:42] <Red_Herring> isnt a virtual one where they host it for you?
[06:42] <jarr3d> i dunno
[06:42] <Red_Herring> i think ya want a dediacted one
[06:42] <Red_Herring> it sounds better
[06:42] <Red_Herring> :-)
[06:42] <Kezzerxir> can any one hear me?
[06:42] <Red_Herring> Kezzerxir: loud and clear
[06:42] <Kezzerxir> k
[06:42] <Red_Herring> or as loud as someone can get over irc
[06:43] <Kezzerxir> Any one know where i can find the linux kernal source for kubuntu?
[06:43] <Red_Herring> any java programmers in here who want to look over a 300 line, uncommented java program of mine?
[06:43] <Red_Herring> Kezzerxir: use the kernel headers
[06:44] <Kezzerxir> Well im tring to install my networks drivers and they are asking for the linux kernal source\
[06:44] <Red_Herring> the kernel headers work of ya wanna compile stuff like that
[06:44] <Kezzerxir> so how do i use the headers/\
[06:44] <Red_Herring> !linux-headers
[06:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[06:44] <Red_Herring> !linuxheaders
[06:44] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:44] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[06:45] <Red_Herring> just apt-get install linux<whatever version> headers
[06:45] <Red_Herring> use synaptic
[06:45] <Red_Herring> adept
[06:45] <Red_Herring> your favorite
[06:45] <Kezzerxir> will that pout the file si need into /usr/src/linux?
[06:45] <Red_Herring> well
[06:46] <Red_Herring> when i did it i could compile my drivers
[06:46] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: somewhere in there
[06:46] <Kezzerxir> cause thats where the drivers are looking for them at
[06:46] <Red_Herring> they worked like crap
[06:46] <Red_Herring> but that was the driver's fault
[06:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> did anyone ever use kino?
[06:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't import any video file :(
[06:48] <jmarrero> :)
[06:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does it changes if i "configure --prefix......kde" or not?
[06:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't really understand why everybody suggest to specify the prefix
[06:53] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: with prefix you tell where to install
[06:53] <Tm_T> otherwise it goes with default, normally /usr/local
[06:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes but kde programs needs kde anyway.....
[06:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooooooo
[06:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[06:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> while my prefix is /usr
[06:54] <jarr3d> can someone help me with godiddy?
[06:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> don't know what is that
[06:56] <djzn> is kdelibs 4 buildable?
[06:56] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: as long as prefix dir is in $PATH there's not much care where you install, though if you install where your kde is then you might overwrite files from package, some people find this "messing their package system"
[06:56] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: I don't care about that because I know what I've installed from package and what I compiled myself
[06:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[06:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and where people use to store self compiled code?
[06:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this makes no sense.. specifying the same prefix of kde i overwrite those files.. !!
[06:58] <_djzn> is kdelibs 4 buildable?
[06:58] <sambagirl> i am trying to telnet from 1 machine to my ubuntu computer i set the router up so port 23 is open for that virtual ip do i have to tell ubuntu something?
[06:58] <sambagirl> i set port 23 upd and tcp (both)
[06:58] <sambagirl> is that right?
[06:59] <sambagirl> the reason i am asking in here is because it is a kubuntu computer.
[06:59] <crypt> the place to check is the /etc/services file.
[06:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this makes no sense.. specifying the same prefix of kde i overwrite those files.. !!
[07:00] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, listen
[07:00] <crypt> for telnet though you should just need tcp
[07:01] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: if you have Kopete installed from package, and then install it from sources, then _ofcourse_ it overwrite if you install them to same place
[07:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oo i see
[07:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> speaking about kopete
[07:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my file transferring doesn't work at all......
[07:01] <Tm_T> and, next time kopete have updated package, it gets overwrited _again_
[07:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can receive.... very slow, but the files are corrupted
[07:02] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: msn ?
[07:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yy
[07:02] <Tm_T> ok, and Kopete version?
[07:03] <Kezzerxir> robotgeek
[07:03] <crypt> if you are compiling from souce and don't want to have it overwrite and existing package you can use the --prefix when running configure.
[07:03] <robotgeek> yes Kezzerxir
[07:03] <Kezzerxir> im missing a script 'gcc' in the headers
[07:03] <crypt> ie configure --prefix=/usr/local
[07:03] <Tm_T> crypt: that's default ;)
[07:04] <crypt> yeah I know.
[07:04] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: hmm, maybe you need to "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4"
[07:04] <Tm_T> but also, you can use prefix to install it to your homedir IF you don't have root access
[07:05] <crypt> I used to use /usr/local/kde at one time.
[07:06] <Kezzerxir> didn't work
[07:07] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: can you tell me the exact error? on pastebin
[07:07] <Kezzerxir> its on another computer
[07:07] <Kezzerxir> let me write it down
[07:07] <crypt> what gcc packages do you have installed ?
[07:08] <Kezzerxir> i just install the kubuntu distro
[07:08] <crypt> try running dpkg -l | grep gcc
[07:08] <Kezzerxir> its couln't find packagfe gcc-3.4
[07:08] <Kezzerxir> for the erroe robo
[07:08] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to get CUPS working in Dapper?
[07:09] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4" should fix it
[07:09] <crypt> I just installed the packages and then used the web interface to set up the printer.
[07:11] <angasule> hmm, in konqueror, I can't load profiles, only save them, the menu option for loading isn't anywhere I can see
[07:11] <Kezzerxir> it says he cant find teh gcc-3.4 package when i do that
[07:11] <Kezzerxir> it*
[07:12] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: you need a internet connection
[07:12] <robotgeek> Tm_T: does it do webcams?
[07:12] <robotgeek> oops, wrong channel
[07:13] <sihen> Hello all
[07:13] <crypt> hi
[07:13] <angasule> hi sihen
[07:14] <angasule> hola bushito
[07:14] <bushito> how can i make my kubuntu play more than 1 sound at a time?? XD
[07:14] <sihen> Was wondering if someone could help me, not sure how fstab differs on kubuntu but my mounting is not working - //<IP_ADDRESS>/public            /media/wdcrm/public smbfs auto,username=dylan,password=blah,uid=dylan 0 0
[07:14] <bushito> angasule: (O_O) eeehhh!!
[07:14] <bushito> angasule: no me asustes asi.... te conozco??
[07:15] <angasule> bushito: "bushito" is obviously spanish, and you're .do :)
[07:15] <crypt> bushito you need to set up a .asoundrc file.
[07:15] <bushito> angasule: oh hehehe
[07:15] <bushito> crypt: explain fuction please =O
[07:16] <bushito> crypt: cause i dont know al distros that uses .deb sound is a little =P damage
[07:16] <sihen> anyone?
[07:16] <bushito> crypt: right now i am using mandriva and sounds seems to run ok
[07:16] <crypt> the .asoundrc file handles software mixing for alsa when using a card that doesn't handle more than one channel in hardware.
[07:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: Kopete 0.11
[07:18] <crypt> they have a good overview of it at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php?module=Generic
[07:19] <sihen> angasule : posible you could help me out here?
[07:19] <angasule> uid should be a number, I think
[07:20] <angasule> I'm very unsure, needless to say
[07:20] <Kezzerxir> robo
[07:20] <Kezzerxir> crypt
[07:21] <sihen> thanks
[07:21] <sihen> anyone else?
[07:22] <crypt> Kezzerxir: yes
[07:23] <angasule> sihen: have you used the samba utils in the settings menu?
[07:23] <crypt> sihen: sorry I really haven't dealt with samba.
[07:24] <sihen> angasule yip I have, works fine but I would much rather do a perm mount in fstab
[07:26] <sihen> np crypt :)
[07:26] <angasule> sihen: the option isn't there? I don't know, I got tired of winXP and SMB so I just installed an FTP server (fileZilla) on the winXP machine, makes no difference when using it, to me at least
[07:28] <crypt> sihen: if it is anything like nfs then you define the source machine like machine_name:/mount_point
[07:28] <jahon> hello all.  I'm on an older notebook with a good wifi in it.  it lacks the switch that most use to turn on there wifi.  pressing the button doesn't turn it on like it does in windows.  what am i missing here?
[07:28] <crypt> ie epitaph:/home/crypt/music /home/crypt/music  nfs defaults,soft    0       0
[07:31] <sihen> sweet i got it
[07:32] <angasule> sihen: how was it, then?
[07:33] <unix_infidel> hey guys i tried using xhost + [my host name]  to allow root to open X apps and that doesnt seem to be working.
[07:34] <angasule> konqueror doesn't show 'load view profile' in the 'settings' menu, so I can only save view profiles, why would that be? I'm googling with no results
[07:35] <crypt> angasule: I think that is something to do with the changes that kubuntu have made.
[07:35] <sihen> angasule: create file /root/.smbcredentials , enter username=blah, passord=blah - Save. chmod 700 /root/.smbcredentials - add //<IP_ADDRESS>/linux        /media/sharename  smbfs   credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777   0
[07:35] <angasule> sihen: ah, simple :P
[07:36] <angasule> crypt: so the only way to load a profile is by opening from the command line or a link?
[07:36] <unix_infidel> anyone on the xhost question/
[07:37] <angasule> I shouldn't have used such a long name for the profile, I guess :)
[07:37] <crypt> angasule: I think it is something like that. If you do a search on something like kubuntu defaults there is a comment that I read in a blog.
[07:37] <sihen> angasule yip, thanks to ubuntuguide.org
[07:37] <sihen> lets hope its the same for kubuntu
[07:37] <angasule> thanks, crypt, searching
[07:38] <crypt> angasule: I miss not having the window menu as well.
[07:39] <angasule> hmm, yeah, I don't see it, now that you mention it
[07:39] <angasule> crypt: how can they be activated again?
[07:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: Kopete 0.11
[07:40] <crypt> angasule: not sure I uninstalled the kubuntu-default-settings package and still didn't get things back the way that they had been.
[07:42] <Kezzerxir> crypt you there?
[07:42] <angasule> this is the kind of thing I hate, I understand hiding dangerous/confusing things from newbies, but eliminating them? It feels like java
[07:42] <crypt> Kezzerxir: yup.
[07:43] <Kezzerxir> i got the erorr log can u look at it/
[07:43] <Kezzerxir> ?
[07:43] <crypt> no problems
[07:43] <Kezzerxir> huh?
[07:44] <angasule> oh, well, I'm off, have fun people :)
[07:44] <crypt> Kezzerxir: that was a yes.
[07:44] <crypt> bye angasule
[07:44] <Kezzerxir> want me to email it or send it?
[07:44] <unix_infidel> any reason why that could be happening.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> quick question yo, xhost +[hostname]  wont allow root to start up X apps.
[07:46] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: my recommendation: use email or jabber
[07:46] <crypt> thats odd it timed out.
[07:46] <crypt> fire it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jabber?
[07:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: what's that?
[07:46] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: protocol, damn good one
[07:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why?
[07:47] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: free, open, doesn't rely on one companys servers (anyone can set one up) etc etc
[07:47] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: also, googletalk is just jabber server
[07:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: basically noone use it..
[07:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> all my friends use MSN
[07:48] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: basically more and more use it
[07:48] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: and, you can use both
[07:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i would have an empty contact list :(
[07:48] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: then add me ;)
[07:48] <Kezzerxir> ok sent
[07:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ^__^
[07:49] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: and ask if your friends can use jabber too with msn
[07:49] <Tm_T> so, you have both, if one fails, you use another
[07:49] <Kezzerxir> Crypt Did you get it?
[07:49] <Tm_T> because you can use BOTH
[07:49] <crypt> there are also jabber gateways to msn etc.
[07:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[07:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gateways?
[07:49] <Tm_T> crypt: true, and msn 0.12 supports those
[07:50] <Tm_T> s/msn/kopete
[07:50] <Tm_T> ugh, school ->
[07:50] <crypt> Tallia1Kubuntu: you talk to the server using jabber and it talks to msn for you.
[07:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo
[07:50] <crypt> Kezzerxir: hasn't arrived here yet.
[07:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> muah
[07:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will wait
[07:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> will the file transfer work better using jabber?
[07:51] <crypt> Kezzerxir: just arrived.
[07:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that could be the only motivation to make me change server
[07:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: does it?
[07:53] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: it does work, period
[07:53] <Tm_T> it just works ;)
[07:53] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: and, you don't have to change, use both
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, can you guide me in the setup?
[07:54] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: yrrh, do you happen to have jabber?
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[07:54] <Tm_T> s/jabber/dapper/
[07:54] <Tm_T> =)
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[07:54] <crypt> kopete will do jabber
[07:54] <Tm_T> messy head I got
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have it
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kopete
[07:54] <Tm_T> dapper? jolly good
[07:55] <Tm_T> or not
[07:55] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: you're in dapper or breezy?
[07:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> breezy
[07:55] <crypt> Kezzerxir: what is it that you are trying to compile.
[07:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i have just seen that i can have a jabber account in kopete
[07:55] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: ok, then nothing
[07:55] <Kezzerxir> install network drivers
[07:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where can i get a username?
[07:55] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://kdetalk.net/
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> naa
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't want another email
[07:56] <Tm_T> no it's not email
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will not leave my gmail
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> whatever..
[07:57] <Tm_T> ah, you have gmail?!
[07:57] <Tm_T> then!
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is the only email i have
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i use it for msn as well
[07:57] <Kezzerxir> crypt: any ideas?
[07:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: then?
[07:57] <Tm_T> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google%20Talk%20support
[07:58] <crypt> Kezzerxir: it almost looks like it is looking for something like the linux-kernel-headers but that would just be  guess.
[07:58] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm gone now, good luck ;) ->
[07:59] <Kezzerxir>  i installed those
[07:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uheee
[07:59] <Kezzerxir> i think i need the gcc tools but i dont a got an internet conenct on t hat comp to get them over there
[08:00] <crypt> in /usr/bin do you have gcc and gccc-3.4 files
[08:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can tell me something more about jabber / kopete?
[08:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone that uses it..
[08:00] <Kezzerxir> where can u d/l gcc 3.4
[08:00] <Kezzerxir> apt-get install gcc-3.4 wont works cause i have no internet connection
[08:01] <robotgeek> Kezzerxir: you can download from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <crypt> you can grab the packages from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can tell me something more about jabber / kopete?
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> specifically about the configuration of file transfers..
[08:02] <crypt> Tallia1Kubuntu: sorry can't tell you about file transfers as I never set that up here.
[08:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[08:03] <Tm_T> ugh
[08:04] <Tm_T> missed the buss
[08:04] <Tm_T> whopsie
[08:04] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: set up filetransfer is simple, just open one port in firewall etc
[08:05] <Kezzerxir> whats the command to insatll them?
[08:05] <freeflying> Tm_T: why kopete-0.12 depend on xmms
[08:05] <Tm_T> freeflying: xmms nowplaying
[08:05] <crypt> dpkg -i package_name
[08:05] <Tm_T> freeflying: thanks for pointing that out, have to remove that
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: jabber is still connecting
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> from about 3 minutes
[08:06] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: you did as in instructions?
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oooo wait
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i forgot to restart kopete :)
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> after i installed the crypto library
[08:07] <Tm_T> :o
[08:07] <Tm_T> that might be it ;)
[08:07] <Tm_T> freeflying: otherwise, how it seems to work?
[08:08] <Tm_T> freeflying: you see that icon in lower left corner?
[08:08] <freeflying> Tm_T: begain using   :)
[08:08] <Tm_T> good boy ;)
[08:08] <freeflying> Tm_T: yep, it's  useful
[08:08] <Tm_T> thanks ;)
[08:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: there was a connection error, host not found
[08:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this was the error
[08:10] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: doublecheck settings, tryport 5222 and 5223
[08:10] <freeflying>  Tm_T  when will u remove the dependency on xmms
[08:10] <Tm_T> freeflying: uh, that means building packages again... as soon as there's new sources
[08:11] <Kezzerxir> do i need teh gcc base?
[08:11] <freeflying> Tm_T: I really don't like gtk program , especially gtk1  :)
[08:12] <Tm_T> freeflying: me neither, I don't remember why I have xmms-dev packages installed
[08:12] <crypt> Kezzerxir: yes.
[08:12] <Tm_T> freeflying: amaroK <3
[08:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nothing....
[08:13] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: interesting, I'm in gtalk and kdetalk server as we speak
[08:13] <freeflying> Tm_T: r u using gtalk or msn now
[08:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> talk.gmail.com on port 5223?
[08:13] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, talk.google.com
[08:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[08:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what about the bridge toward msn?
[08:14] <Tm_T> in 0.12
[08:14] <Tm_T> I haven't build breezy packages, maybe I should
[08:15] <Tm_T> freeflying: jabber and msn yes
[08:15] <freeflying> Tm_T: would you mind give me your msn ID
[08:15] <Tm_T> sure
[08:24] <Kezzerxir> crypt
[08:24] <Kezzerxir> install gcc
[08:24] <Kezzerxir> still not working
[08:24] <Kezzerxir> i think something is missing from my headers
[08:25] <Kezzerxir> robo?
[08:25] <crypt> Kezzerxir: in that case I am not sure.
[08:25] <Kezzerxir> you see the bottom of that file
[08:25] <Kezzerxir> it has a warning
[08:27] <Kezzerxir> do u know what that is
[08:27] <Kezzerxir> that it is saying
[08:27] <crypt> Kezzerxir: it looks like it is looking for the .config file that gets generated when you configure a kernel
[08:28] <Kezzerxir> so that mean i gotta do what?
[08:31] <crypt> not sure.
[08:31] <hayden> !samba
[08:31] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:31] <crypt> am off now.
[08:33] <Kezzerxir> could i have the wrong header files
[08:34] <ubuntu> hi everybody
[08:34] <ubuntu> i need to know if there is any possibility to load the kubuntu live cd into ram...
[08:34] <ubuntu> ...because i want to install kubuntu and i need to download the install.iso and burn it...
[08:35] <Kezzerxir> how do u check your kernal version?
[08:35] <mr-russ> ubuntu: don't you have an OS on the computer already?
[08:35] <ubuntu> no... suse 9.2 crashed totaly
[08:35] <ubuntu> can't do anything with it anymore
[08:35] <Kezzerxir> how do u check your kernal version?
[08:35] <mr-russ> uname -a
[08:36] <ubuntu> @kezzerxir: look at the console (Strg+Alt+F1) ;)
[08:36] <mr-russ> ubuntu: you could install kubuntu by copying the livecd to the HDD though, like you can with knoppix.
[08:37] <farous> hi i am having a problem making a presentation and was wondering why it takes too long to flip from one slide to the other
[08:37] <Niko_K> @mr-russ ... could be a possibility
[08:37] <farous> using either openoffice or a pdf file
[08:37] <mr-russ> Niko_K: no need to install at all then :)
[08:37] <Niko_K> hmm
[08:38] <Niko_K> does kubuntu boot then??
[08:38] <Niko_K> there would be no grub (ot lilo) then
[08:38] <Niko_K> isn't there a "toram" option at startup like in knoppix?
[08:38] <Niko_K> (i tried toram... this didn't work(
[08:39] <mr-russ> Niko_K: you could do a full web install as well.
[08:39] <mr-russ> Niko_K: debootstrap your hdd, and start a basic system, then install it.
[08:39] <Niko_K> how to do that?
[08:39] <farous> ok anyone know of a good program for presentations other than open office, abiword and koffice
[08:40] <Niko_K> is there a howto anywhere on the web
[08:40] <Niko_K> sounds good so far ;)
[08:41] <vijay> hi everybody, how to connect to a windows xp remote desktop??
[08:41] <evilh> vijay: using kubuntu?
[08:41] <vijay> yes
[08:41] <mr-russ> apt-get install rdesktop
[08:42] <vijay> ok
[08:42] <mr-russ> K -> Internet -> Remote Desktop Connection
[08:42] <mr-russ> rdp://mywin32-server/
[08:42] <evilh> vijay: ditto what mr-russ said
[08:42] <vijay> thank you
[08:44] <mr-russ> Niko_K: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[08:44] <mr-russ> that's an option.
[08:45] <farous> Niko_K: are you try to run dapper?
[08:46] <mr-russ> just need to do things like install grub to the boot sector.
[08:46] <mr-russ> farous: install kubuntu with No os, and a kubuntu livecd.
[08:47] <Niko_K> i try to run breezy
[08:47] <Kezzerxir> waht delete command?
[08:47] <Kezzerxir> whats?
[08:47] <farous>  mr-russ mm i can hardly understand. breezy not recongizing his hardware? or trying to install from livecd
[08:47] <Melsen> !java
[08:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:47] <farous> Kezzerxir: rm
[08:47] <Melsen> !javadebs
[08:48] <farous> !repos
[08:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:48] <farous> sorry wrong room
[08:48] <Niko_K> i try to install from live-cd
[08:48] <Niko_K> breezy recognizes just one cdrom
[08:48] <Niko_K> and so i can't burn the install.iso
[08:49] <Niko_K> (i just have to live.iso; not the install.iso)
[08:49] <farous> Niko_K: dump question do you have problems downloading the install cd. for you are taking the long route man
[08:50] <Kezzerxir> Wahts the command to delete a file ?
[08:50] <farous> Kezzerxir: told you rm in a terminal type man rm
[08:50] <Niko_K> rm deletes a file
[08:51] <Niko_K> i don't have problems to download the install.iso
[08:51] <Niko_K> i have problems to burn it
[08:51] <farous> Niko_K:man rm and you will find you can delete anything
[08:51] <Niko_K> because i work with the live cd now and so i can't burn anymore
[08:52] <Niko_K> debootstrap seems a little "complicated"
[08:52] <farous> Niko_K: if i were you i would wait and fetch an install cd.
[08:53] <farous> and you sound you do not have an os on your system at all
[08:53] <Melsen> Hrmm
[08:54] <Niko_K> if there is no poxxibility to get the live system into ram... maybe that's the best solution
[08:54] <Melsen> do I need a special plugin to make java work in mozilla? I thought I had downloaded the correct, but when I try to access a specific page here.. it says At least Java Plugin Version 1.4.1_01 is required
[08:54] <farous> Melsen: which java you installed and are you talking about konq or firefox
[08:55] <Melsen> firefox
[08:55] <Niko_K> thanks for your help
[08:55] <Niko_K> cu
[08:55] <Melsen> there was an apt package that was called mozilla-java-plugin or something.. can't remember the specific name
[08:55] <Melsen> but obviously it didn't work
[08:55] <farous> melsen which java you installed
[08:55] <farous> sun or blackdawn
[08:55] <Melsen> sun
[08:56] <Melsen> is that wrong?
[08:56] <farous> no thats better
[08:56] <farous> give me a min
[08:57] <Melsen> It was sun-j2re1.5
[08:57] <farous> goto /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7
[08:57] <farous> you will find the plugin there
[08:57] <farous> copy it to .mozilla/plugins/
[08:58] <Melsen> Ok.. 1 sec
[08:58] <farous> melsen assuming you are using 386 processor
[08:58] <Melsen> I am
[08:58] <Melsen> Ok... done that
[08:58] <Melsen> now what
[08:58] <farous> so you copied it
[08:58] <farous> you are done
[08:58] <farous> close and open firefox and test java
[08:59] <Melsen> Same error
[08:59] <farous> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[08:59] <farous> use this link
[09:00] <farous> melson did you close all instances of firefox
[09:00] <Melsen> Weeeeird
[09:00] <Melsen> it says Im using blackdown
[09:00] <Melsen> 1.4.2-02
[09:00] <farous> that is the mozilla-java-plugin you installed
[09:00] <farous> uninstall it
[09:03] <Melsen> just did that
[09:03] <Melsen> still says the same
[09:03] <farous> melsen ok
[09:03] <farous> go to the dir .mozilla/plugins
[09:04] <farous> rename the file to libjavaplugin.so
[09:04] <Melsen> done
[09:04] <farous> ok close and open firefox and test it again
[09:04] <Melsen> You did mean the libjavaplugin_oji.so, right?
[09:04] <farous> right
[09:05] <Melsen> grrr
[09:05] <Melsen> same
[09:05] <farous> ok in a terminal tupe killall firefox-bin
[09:05] <farous> this will close and firefox that might be open
[09:06] <Melsen> no process killed
[09:06] <farous> melsen last try is to open firefox
[09:06] <farous> type in it
[09:06] <farous> about:config
[09:06] <farous> then search for the java plugin installed
[09:07] <Melsen> I get several things here
[09:07] <Melsen> among others something to do with solaris
[09:07] <Melsen> thats odd
[09:08] <Melsen> java.java_plugin_library_name
[09:08] <Melsen> still says javaplugin.oji
[09:09] <farous> i have no idea melsen i give up
[09:09] <Melsen> I also got a value called java.private_java_version_file that points to ~/.java/versions
[09:09] <Melsen> But I dont have a directory called .java
[09:09] <Melsen> strange
[09:09] <farous> Melsen: which ver of firefox you have
[09:10] <Melsen> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:10] <farous> i am running that too here no problems at all
[09:10] <farous> how did you install java? namely sun java?
[09:10] <Melsen> with apt-get?
[09:10] <Melsen> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re thingie
[09:11] <farous> Melsen: here is a thread on plugins for the new java. my post is with the name ilbahr look at it
[09:11] <Melsen> where can I find that?
[09:12] <farous> Melsen: seems you have both javas installed and am a bit confused
[09:12] <farous> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115029
[09:12] <Melsen> could be
[09:12] <farous> which repos you used to insatll java
[09:12] <farous> i installed java directly from sun website
[09:12] <Melsen> seveas
[09:12] <Melsen> .. I think
[09:13] <farous> i have another pc where i instlled seveas java i think and no problems too
[09:13] <farous> mm i can not remember if i installed directly or used seveas
[09:15] <farous> for my main pc i defenitly used suns. For my daughters might have taken the easy way might not
[09:15] <farous> Melsen: ok you copied the file how about making a symbolic link to the plugin
[09:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> for how much time will this still be here?
[09:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkino%2Fkino_0.80-1_i386.deb&md5sum=b4971650450fe31436d6e80f7bcc7420&arch=i386&type=main
[09:17] <farous> Melsen: ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so ./mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why the server is down?
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> does it happen often?
[09:19] <[Vampis] > morning :)
[09:19] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: you are talking about debian in ubuntu ?
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes..!
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need a debian package..
[09:19] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: so why not talk in debian
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sometimes they work perfectly!
[09:20] <farous> "/join #debian" and ask them there
[09:22] <[Vampis] > hehe
[09:28] <owner_> !find kino
[09:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'kino' (4 shown): kino ;; kino-dvtitler ;; kino-timfx ;; kinoplus.
[09:29] <evilh> i got a question about the windows dual boot how to
[09:32] <evilh> anyone in alive in here?
[09:32] <ubijtsa2> mmmm
[09:33] <farous> !attitude
[09:33] <ubotu> The people in #kubuntu are volunteers.  Your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.
[09:33] <farous> nope wronq one
[09:33] <evilh> i need help on creating the partition for dual booting win2k and ubuntu
[09:33] <farous> evith that is it just ask
[09:33] <owner_> evilh, use the gparted livecd
[09:34] <evilh> ok well i resized my NTFS partition and made room for the ubuntu installation. now according to the HowTo I need to make a 500mb swap partition and the rest is for the installation. is the swap a logical or primary partition?
[09:35] <owner_> it can be either
[09:35] <owner_> but you may not want to make it a primary partition
[09:35] <owner_> because you can only have 4 for each hard drive
[09:35] <evilh> ok.thanks
[09:35] <owner_> np
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hola
[09:39] <jpatrick> hola Tallia1Kubuntu
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to reduce the size of picture in an easy way?
[09:40] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: easiest is gimp
[09:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i got bored to do it one by one in gwenview
[09:40] <farous> you can use image magic too
[09:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gimp is heavy!!!
[09:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> something very simple.. ?
[09:40] <jpatrick> Krita
[09:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Krita can do that for a bunch of images togheter?
[09:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i used gwenview but i have to do it one by one
[09:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i DON'T want to do it one by one..
[09:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there something?
[09:42] <vge> hmm, you wanna resize the picture or reduce fysical size on the disk?
[09:43] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: i can think of convert and a script
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes.. keep going!!
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> convert?
[09:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's that?
[09:44] <farous> it is in imagemagick package
[09:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow.....! that's a long --help print
[09:44] <farous> will resize or convert from one format to the other
[09:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[09:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes i have it
[09:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you know the arguments to give him to reduce the resolution?
[09:45] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: i use the size and then give the size in pixles
[09:45] <farous> convert -size Wxh
[09:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[09:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo
[09:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfect!!
[09:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :) let me try
[09:48] <farous> oh there is a -resize option too you might try it
[09:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok tnx
[09:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will
[09:50] <farous> yw:)
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i dunno picture proportions..
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do you suggest me as sizes for pictures that i will send to a person with a 56k connection?
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they have only to see it, not print or anything else
[09:52] <vge> what kind of pictures?
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> real...
[09:53] <farous> mm if not to be printed
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> people.. places..
[09:53] <owner> prob 100 - 400kb
[09:53] <farous> just for display
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yez
[09:53] <farous> 6408480
[09:53] <farous> sorry
[09:53] <farous> 640*580
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 640 480
[09:53] <farous> mm
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 5?
[09:53] <farous> ya
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 5? again.
[09:53] <farous> 640 480
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ah ok
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx a lots..! again
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me try
[09:54] <vge> in what charset 8 has an * in it? :)
[09:54] <farous> or if he might put it as desktop background check his resol 1034 768 is good too
[09:54] <farous> again am too sleepy
[09:54] <farous> 1024 768
[09:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> convert: missing an image filename `Chinese New Year '06 010.jpg'
[09:55] <farous> vge us keyboard layout is that what you are asking for?
[09:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that is weird..
[09:55] <vge> ohh, ok, nice to know
[09:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: can that work with jpg images?
[09:56] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: you know for files with spaces use " file name"
[09:56] <farous> use double quotes
[09:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> convert: missing an image filename `dscn1570.jpg'.
[09:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this has no spaces.. :(
[09:56] <farous> and let me check
[09:58] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: i just did it with a jpg
[09:58] <farous> i wonder if it will work for a whole dir
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same command?
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you can use *
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and bash simply substitute file by file
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i used this: convert -size 640x480 "dscn1570.jpg"
[09:58] <farous> convert sourcefilename -size 640x480 destfilename
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is right?
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooooooooooo
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[10:01] <NRG88> what packages are needed for KDE? I'm in rescue mode
[10:01] <NRG88> if i select kde,it needs 580
[10:03] <Niekie> Try kubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <NRG88> ok
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: it works perfectly with convert * 320x240
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it converts all the file in the folder
[10:05] <farous> wow wild card worked here with resize command
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but the thing is that it choose a stupid filename
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh?
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i forgot a -size :)
[10:05] <farous> the new file names are wierd though
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes...
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same here :)
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they pick a random name
[10:06] <farous> but easier than doing it one file at a time
[10:06] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: try directing it to a dir so they will be all in the same dir easier for sorting
[10:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how?
[10:07] <farous> convert *.* -size wxh /dir/*.*
[10:08] <farous> miht work
[10:08] <farous> make the dir first /home/username/resizedimage for ex
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: no.. it doesn't..
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i understand what it does
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the second parameter is the radix  and the extension
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> -rw-r--r--  1 andrea andrea 0 2006-02-09 01:14 *-7.*
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> -rw-r--r--  1 andrea andrea 0 2006-02-09 01:14 *-8.*
[10:15] <farous> ok
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> these are a couple of lines generated with the one you suggested me
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfect.:! it works even as a renamer :)
[10:16] <farous> great glad to see you found what you wanted :)
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i did in 3 secs what i did in 10 minuts
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> es
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> es*
[10:17] <farous> :)
[10:17] <farous> imagemagick is really a great package
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it seems that it stop reducing the size though
[10:18] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: i found the -resize command flawless
[10:18] <farous> you might need to google it a little bit
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> flawless?
[10:19] <farous> i did the resize for a whole dir with jpg and png formats no problem at all
[10:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look at the sizes.. they are the same
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> even though the command executes
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok find it
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now it works
[10:20] <farous> i opened the files and goot the same size i set
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if you use: convert *.* -size 320x240 reduced/picture.jpeg
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it doesn't
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> convert *.* -resize 320x240 reduced/picture.jpeg
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if you use: it works perfectly
[10:21] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: you did not read the man ;)
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no at all !! :)
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> way too long :P
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: thanks for the help anyway
[10:21] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: convert -<options of source> <source file> -<options of dest> <dest file>
[10:22] <farous> your welcomed not back to my xorg night mare take care
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> xorg nightmare?
[10:22] <farous_away> yah am enablining 3d and is giving me all sorts of problems
[10:22] <farous_away> wil contin on it now
[10:27] <h2thez> hi leute, bei mir strzt der kicker immer beim herunterfahren ab
[10:27] <h2thez> kennt jemand das problem
[10:27] <farous_away> !de
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:27] <h2thez> thx
[10:28] <farous_away> :)
[10:28] <farous_away> ok here goes nothing bye now
[10:58] <exsanet> i need help,somebody's can help me??????????
[10:58] <Sirin> Help with what?
[11:18] <skypa> greetings
[11:19] <Sirin> hey
[11:19] <evilh> hola
[11:19] <skypa> for some reasons I have to press certain keys twice lately to get a character out.. ^ and ~ i.e.
[11:20] <skypa> any ideas where in the KDE configuration jungle the option for that detail could be?
[11:20] <Sirin> Hmm. Isn't happening with me. What Client and client version are you using?
[11:21] <skypa> client? are you referring to my irc client?
[11:21] <Sirin> Yes.
[11:21] <Sirin> I'm using Konversation. No problems here.
[11:21] <skypa> well, it's a system wide "problem"
[11:21] <Sirin> What is your kubuntu version?
[11:22] <skypa> breezy
[11:22] <evilh> try going to -->K menu--> SystemSettings-->Keyboard
[11:23] <skypa> alright, I'm there.. nothing related there though :p
[11:23] <Sirin> What did you do prior to the problem?
[11:23] <skypa> it's seems it's waiting for another character to apply the accent (^ or `), which is the right way to go usually
[11:24] <Phazeman> hi all. how do i remove the cdrom settings from the apt sources list ? ? i mean i don't want the cdrom repositories to be in the sources list
[11:24] <skypa> I think I applied kde 3.5.1, not sure though
[11:25] <skypa> I'm sure though that this is the matter of one "wait after accent" click-box somewhere.. I just can't seem to find it *sigh*
[11:29] <evilh> how do i make it so when i click on web links they open in firefox instead of konqueror
[11:30] <makda> evilh , have a look at 'File Associations' in kcontrol...
[11:30] <Zeusz> hello 2 all
[11:30] <Zeusz> I have a problem
[11:30] <Zeusz> I have no internet connection under kubuntu
[11:30] <Zeusz> but it works under windows
[11:31] <Zeusz> it worked before on kubuntu too
[11:31] <Zeusz> but now
[11:31] <Zeusz> it doesnt
[11:31] <Zeusz> I tried the ubuntu live cd
[11:31] <Zeusz> and didn't have no internet under that neighter
[11:31] <Zeusz> can U help please
[11:31] <Zeusz> ?
[11:32] <Zeusz> anyone here ?
[11:33] <evilh> hmm just a sec
[11:34] <Zeusz> ok
[11:35] <evilh> is it a wired or wireless network?
[11:35] <Zeusz> no
[11:35] <Zeusz> it's a simple cable connection
[11:35] <evilh> so your internet goes staight from your modem to your computer?
[11:35] <Zeusz> yes
[11:36] <evilh> that complicates things for me. any one else in here have any ideas?
[11:38] <makda> Zesus, between the modem and the computer is it USB or Ethernet connection ?
[11:38] <Zeusz> Ethernet
[11:43] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: please see this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/30956
[11:43] <makda> zesus, do you have an ip address ?
[11:44] <Zeusz> of cource
[11:44] <Zeusz> of course
[11:48] <makda> zesus, have you tried power cycling the modem ? and then executing     /etc/init.d/networking restart         ?
[11:49] <Zeusz> hmm
[11:49] <Zeusz> no
[11:49] <Zeusz> but I reebooted several times
[11:49] <Zeusz> and restarted the modem to
[11:50] <visik7> how an I install latest nvidia driver instead of the old 7667 ???
[11:51] <ubijtsa2> visik7: will the 8xxx driver fix anything for you?
[11:51] <makda> zesus, are all the relavent lights on your modem switched on ( to indicate that you have a proper connection) ? especially the eth/enet light ( assuming there is one!)
[11:51] <alessandro_> hi
[11:51] <visik7> ubijtsa2: yes
[11:52] <alessandro_> at kde boot I have this error device /dev/dsp can't be opened somebody know why?
[11:52] <ubijtsa2> visik7: what I did was to grab the installer from nvidia, deinstalled all nvidia drivers, then build the new driver
[11:52] <dipnlik> hi all. tried to watch a video from youtube on konq but it didn't work, how can i solve this?
[11:53] <farous> !restrictedformats  ^   ^
[11:53] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[11:53] <farous> !restrictedformats
[11:53] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:53] <farous> ^                  ^
[11:56] <Zeusz> well
[11:56] <Zeusz> it works now
[11:56] <Zeusz> can't imagine what was the problem
[11:56] <Zeusz> bye
[11:57] <Zeusz> and thanks
[12:00] <dipnlik> !FreeFormats
[12:00] <ubotu> somebody said freeformats was There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:01] <termo> hi
[12:01] <termo> does anyone know where I can alter the CD-kioslave settings?
[12:15] <_evilh> what other UI are there for linux?
[12:15] <Tm_T> _evilh: other than...
[12:15] <_evilh> KDE and GNOME
[12:16] <Tm_T> _evilh: xfce, couple ten of *box variations, enlightement etc etc
[12:17] <Tm_T> and also WindowMaker
[12:17] <_evilh> how would one go about installing those on a server install of ubuntu?
[12:17] <Tm_T> there's half million different kind of
[12:17] <crypt> and then you get the stranger ones like ion3 and wmii
[12:18] <Tm_T> _evilh: it depends, some of them are installable thru apt, some not
[12:18] <Tm_T> _evilh: sudo apt-get install windowmaker
[12:18] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:19] <_evilh> which one would be a good UI for a file server?
[12:19] <Tm_T> evgind: bash
[12:19] <Tm_T> _evilh: I eman
[12:19] <Tm_T> mean
[12:20] <dipnlik> can anyone here watch videos from youtube.com in konqueror? here opera and FF work fine but not konqi, any ideas?
[12:21] <Tm_T> _evilh: for file server, you really don't need X at all
[12:21] <_evilh> im a complete noob when it comes to the linux command prompt so i kinda need a UI
[12:22] <Tm_T> ok
[12:22] <Tm_T> then I'd say... xfce
[12:23] <Tm_T> it's full-feature DE
[12:24] <Tm_T> it's prolly overkill in server, but...
[12:24] <_evilh> its in the repositories : )
[12:24] <Tm_T> ofcourse it is
[12:24] <Tm_T> _evilh: xubuntu-desktop is to you
[12:27] <Phazeman> Hobbsee_: here ?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: indeed
[12:31] <Phazeman> heya
[12:31] <Hobbsee> hi :)
[12:31] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: may be you know how to remove the cdrom repositories from the sources list
[12:32] <Hobbsee> sure, comment out the line with the cd in it, ie, stick in # in front of it, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:34] <Phazeman> ohh.. i couldn't see it in there...
[12:34] <Phazeman> looks like i've missed those lines. weird...
[12:36] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: also... i'm upgrading to dapper at this moment.. would you suggest to reboot afterwards to make the new kernel work or restarting X is enough ?
[12:36] <Hobbsee> reboot
[12:36] <Mitja> How do you run eclipse?
[12:38] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: thanks much
[12:39] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: no problems :)
[12:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why do i have so many problems in installing GTK in kubuntu.... !!!! grrr
[12:51] <bimberi> !eclipse
[12:51] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[12:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how to install eclipse?
[12:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> from repositories!!
[12:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it works perfectly
[12:52] <_evilh> whats eclipse?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> !info eclipse
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_o
[12:56] <evilh> !eclipse
[12:56] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[12:56] <evilh> !info eclipse
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> is that the java thing?
[01:01] <bimberi> "an open and extensible platform for anything and yet nothing in particular"
[01:01] <bimberi> (from the eclipse-rcp package description)
[01:14] <skypa> e
[01:14] <killefiz> my dapper kcontrol keyboard layout change dialog doesn't have any layouts to choose from - has anyone seen that before? ( http://killefiz.de/tmp/kcontrol-kb-layout.png )
[01:14] <skypa> same here killefiz
[01:14] <skypa> "setxkbmap -layout de -variant nodeadkeys"
[01:15] <skypa> or whatever layout you would like.. just a quick workaround
[01:15] <killefiz> yeah - I want to be able to switch between dvorak and us-layout
[01:15] <killefiz> so this is a known bug? Is it a kde problem or kubuntu?
[01:17] <skypa> sorry, no idea
[01:18] <Hobbsee> killefiz: i think there's already a bug listed for it - check on malone
[01:18] <Hobbsee> i think i saw one in kdebase
[01:21] <Phazeman> does anynoe know anything about something like qmailtoaster project for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[01:21] <Phazeman> s/anynoe/anyone
[01:22] <ubijtsa2> killefiz: iirc it is a problem with libklavier
[01:23] <ubijtsa2> it is known by the dev's.. dunno if fixed in Dapper yet, have not got far enough to install a full desktop with Flight3 yet
[01:26] <killefiz> ubijtsa2: it is not fixed yet - I am running a current dapper
[01:27] <ubijtsa2> killefiz: I saw it first when upgrading to kde351 in breezy
[01:49] <Phazeman> !qmail
[01:49] <ubotu> Phazeman: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:56] <visik7> can u see  www.notebookreview.com render well ?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> visik7: it looks like the menu is shoved further right than it should be
[02:00] <Hobbsee> apart from thta, it looks ok
[02:00] <killefiz> skypa: I found the problem in malone - workaround: ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb
[02:01] <skypa> well thank you sire ^^
[02:01] <visik7> Hobbsee: I got the problem with opera konqueror and firefox, other people with these browsers dowsn't get this problem
[02:02] <Hobbsee> who are these other poeple?  what browsers and OS's are they useing?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> *using
[02:02] <Phazeman> what was the name of the program that configures the services that start at startup time ?
[02:02] <Phazeman> something like chkonfig in mandriva
[02:02] <Hobbsee> boot up manager maybe?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> no idea
[02:03] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: no no... like chkconfig...
[02:03] <Phazeman> you confiure what services will start and what won't start at boot
[02:03] <Phazeman> i've installed it a week ago and i can't remember it's name
[02:03] <Hobbsee> try looking in adept
[02:04] <Phazeman> only ssh access ehre
[02:04] <Phazeman> here*
[02:04] <visik7> Hobbsee: what res do u have ?
[02:04] <Hobbsee> visik7: 1024.768
[02:04] <visik7> mm me too
[02:05] <visik7> other ppl have 1280x1024
[02:06] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: ohh,.,..... rcconf it is...
[02:06] <Hobbsee> ah
[02:06] <Hobbsee> visik7: ah ok
[02:06] <Hobbsee> tha'td be it
[02:17] <JakubS> what package provides xorg-specific automake macros?
[02:34] <Nomad411> Where is /etc/ld.so.conf, shouldn't there be one?  If I want to add /usr/local/lib ot the library paths, what's the best way in Kubuntu?
[02:37] <Nomad411> I just created the variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to it, that shoudl do right?
[03:05] <visik7> where is a nntp client ?
[03:08] <_user> hello
[03:09] <AnsiC> i have installed the program BRAHMS on kde
[03:09] <AnsiC> but the note in the score is writed very  very big
[03:09] <AnsiC> like 3 o 4 lines
[03:14] <AnsiC> i tryed rosegarden4 but if a write the netes do not play
[03:14] <AnsiC> brahms play but the note writed is huge
[03:16] <claus> hi. how do i stop ftp service? there is no inetd.conf in /etc in breezy
[03:21] <AnsiC> ufff
[03:21] <AnsiC> when i make login in a site
[03:21] <AnsiC> kde close the site
[03:21] <AnsiC> do not consent my login
[03:21] <AnsiC> and i setted the password in the program that was runned
[03:22] <AnsiC> kde run automatically that program
[03:22] <AnsiC> i want delete this program
[03:22] <AnsiC> i thing that is a program for security
[03:22] <mivecz> Does  anyone know  the Four Corners Mockup KDE4 from enfact?
[03:23] <mivecz> ?
[03:26] <mivecz> ?
[03:27] <bienve> bushito,
[03:27] <bienve> estas?
[03:27] <mivecz> Does  anyone know  the Four Corners Mockup KDE4 from enfact?
[03:30] <bushito> bienve: eeeoo
[03:30] <bienve> hehehe
[03:30] <bienve> :;D
[03:30] <bienve> subi mi makina a 333 mghz con fluxbox :D
[03:30] <bushito> bienve: (O_o) como!!?
[03:30] <bienve> estoy en una makina a 333 con fluxbox :D
[03:30] <bushito> bienve: aaaahh jajajajaja
[03:31] <bushito> bienve: y te anda bien eso?? xD
[03:31] <bienve> clarines
[03:31] <bienve> xD
[03:31] <bienve> con breezy
[03:31] <bienve> ;D
[03:31] <bushito> bienve: hey!! estaba probando mandriva
[03:31] <bushito> bienve: que tu piensas hacerca de mandriva??
[03:31] <bushito> bienve: yo me lo encontre muy weno =O
[03:31] <bienve> bla ubuntu rockx
[03:31] <bienve> xD
[03:32] <bushito> jejejej bienve si pero el suse ta subiendo tambien
[03:32] <bushito> bienve: me han dicho que el yast de suse es bastante bueno =O al igual que mandriva asi que lo quiero probar
[03:32] <mivecz> what is the kde  4 brainstorm
[03:33] <bienve> bushito,  voy a estar por ubuntu-es oite en ese canal
[03:33] <bienve> :D
[03:33] <bushito> bienve: ah po voy paya
[03:43] <AnsiC> find /media/cdrom *.SF2
[03:43] <AnsiC> is correct for find SF2 files in the cdrom ?
[03:46] <AnsiC> user@hostname:/media/cdrom$ find /media/cdrom *.SF2
[03:46] <AnsiC> /media/cdrom
[03:46] <AnsiC> find: *.SF2: No such file or directory
[03:48] <meple> anyone knowledgable on k3b?
[03:48] <meple> Im trying to burn a simple data disk with folders from my home folder but when I press burn it says it cant determine the size of the image file
[03:49] <meple> but Im not trying to make or burn an image file
[03:49] <meple> anyone know what exactly it means?
[03:50] <meple> I can write on the fly right? it shouldnt have to make an iso just to burn
[03:56] <bushito> hmm i cannot play .avi extensions =O
[04:08] <asraniel> does anyone know a good way to debug the network? i cant open listening ports, but i can open ports to other computers, what could be the problem?
[04:08] <asraniel> its also interesting that at boot, the dhclient does not start,i have to start it manualy later
[04:12] <nat> how can i get the realtime traffic on a network card ? (RX and TX /s)
[04:12] <ice> !vmware
[04:17] <fit4lfe> is there any good video editors for kde ?>
[04:18] <twinoatl> hi
[04:19] <twinoatl> does someone know if there is an ubuntu repository with last versions of softwares ? Firefox, Thunderbird...
[04:20] <fit4lfe> backports there are
[04:22] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:22] <Pupeno> Any ide why apt-get wouldn't find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686 ?
[04:22] <Pupeno> s/ide/idea/
[04:23] <nat> how can i get the realtime traffic on a network card ? i d like to find a command line which could return me something like 4 ko/s
[04:24] <twinoatl> fit4lfe: where are the backports repositories ?
[04:24] <twinoatl> fit4lfe: do they use stable versions of softwares ?
[04:29] <fit4lfe> use automatix to install firefox 1.5.1
[04:29] <fit4lfe> I did
[04:29] <fit4lfe> works just fine
[04:29] <Tm_T> err
[04:29] <Tm_T> !automatix
[04:29] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.
[04:29] <Tm_T> !easyubuntu
[04:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:30] <fit4lfe> hmm
[04:30] <Tm_T> all I care in this is that automatix IS unsafe
[04:30] <Tm_T> and it does harm your system
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> EU still need  abit of work, i hasten to add
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> it has some anoying rough edges
[04:30] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:31] <fit4lfe> yeah automatix installed firefox in the /usr/bin dir the whole thing though
[04:31] <fit4lfe> dir included
[04:31] <fit4lfe> lol
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> firefox *in* /usr/bin/?
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's evil, it should just symlink to usr/bin
[04:33] <robotgeek> the best way to install firefox is to use the wiki way, and install in homedirectory
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *dapper
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> back
[04:38] <twinoatl> EasyUbuntu does not install firefox it seems !
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser>  um. not as iiirc
[04:39] <twinoatl> Can I use EasyUbuntu with KUbuntu ? Two months ago there was EasyKUbuntu, but it seems dead
[04:39] <twinoatl> Kamping_Kaiser: what does iiirc means ?
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: easyubuntu does work with Kubuntu (i hear), but I'm not sure
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> iiirc is IIRC with 1 to many i's (If I Remember COrreectly)
[04:42] <twinoatl> I didn't know iirc too :-) thanks
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> np :)
[04:43] <twinoatl> what should I do if I want to upgrade packages not in EasyUbuntu ? firefox/thunderbird/grisbi...
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: if easyubuntudoesnt do them, i do t5hem by hadn (but runningdapper i get all the new packages anyway)
[04:45] <twinoatl> Kamping_Kaiser: I understand near nothing of your last sentence (I'm french)
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: and I'm drunk. so it's a bad mix ;) I'll try again
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: if easyubuntu doesnt install packages i install them by hand (but running dapper[unstable branch]  i get all the new packages anyway), so i don't have to install them usualy
[04:47] <twinoatl> Kamping_Kaiser: what do you mean by "by hand" ? You mean "compiling source code" ? Or "install manually dapper packages inside your breezy"
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: both.
[04:49] <twinoatl> what is the preferred way to keep a clean installation ?
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> twinoatl: what do you mean ?
[04:51] <twinoatl> what do you prefer when you want to have a newer package ? Compiling or getting from drapper ?
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> get it from backports is generaly what i prefer. that way it comes in a deb packge
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> backports of course come with a warninga bout not being officaly supported!
[05:05] <blahh> CALLING FOR VOLUNTEERS !!!!
[05:05] <blahh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127534
[05:14] <Mitja> Can someone help me with Krita? It won't save files.
[05:18] <[The_Doc] > hi to all
[05:19] <ClayG> anyone know of a way to turn on lights, for instance through your computer?
[05:19] <Niekie> Some website had some webcam stuff where you can control their lights by remote.
[05:19] <Niekie> They said they released the software with it too.
[05:20] <Niekie> Ah yes.. http://drivemeinsane.com/
[05:21] <ClayG> Thanks, I'll check that out now
[05:21] <ClayG> my computer is supposed to have a way to turn on through the NIC,USB and other stuff
[05:22] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[05:38] <w-the-c> does anyone know about the development of Xgl for kubuntu?  I know the source was released recently...
[05:40] <JakubS> there is xserver-xgl package
[05:40] <w-the-c> yeah...  but I think it's outdated
[05:40] <JakubS> but i think it is old, kdrive based version
[05:41] <JakubS> but ubuntu provides cvs and gcc packages :-)
[05:43] <w-the-c> oh, I didn't realize that, how can I install those?
[05:43] <JakubS> i wonder if i915 is enough for xgl
[05:43] <w-the-c> I've got an ati...  but actually I think the biggest problem is something with glx...
[05:44] <JakubS> i have ati too - on second box
[05:44] <w-the-c> I can compile from cvs and all that, according to a howto on the forum, but it gives me an error
[05:44] <JakubS> but i'm sure it is not enough - mach64gtb
[05:44] <bur[n] er> glx... I'm ready for XGL :)
[05:44] <w-the-c> oh, I've got a FireGL V3200 (128 MB of DDR)
[05:44] <w-the-c> that's what we're talkin' about d00d ;)
[05:44] <JakubS> it is r200 ?
[05:45] <w-the-c> err...  I'm not sure, what do you mean?
[05:45] <w-the-c> is there a cvs deb package?  or am I misunderstanding you
[05:45] <JakubS> chipset type - brand name is completely irrelevant
[05:46] <w-the-c> oohh, well, it's in my Thinkpad T43p...  so I think it is actually an ati card
[05:46] <NRG88> how can i downgrade to KDE 3.4?
[05:46] <JakubS> heh, downgrading is a bitch
[05:46] <PsySine> hi i have problems with gam_server. first it consumed pretty much cpu and it leaked really much memory. then i upgraded to the version in dapper and now it doesn't use muck memory bot i constantly uses 12% cpu (of a 3700+) and it doesn't even work (konqueror doesn't notice changes in directories) what should i do?
[05:47] <NRG88> JakubS: KDE 3.51 has more bugs than KDE 3.4. they fixed one bug, and 2 more appeared...
[05:47] <w-the-c> why would you want to downgrade?
[05:47] <JakubS> PsySine: inotify had some bugs in earlier kernels, what version do you use?
[05:47] <NRG88> (in my case)
[05:47] <NRG88> like no keyboard layouts
[05:47] <w-the-c> oohh...
[05:47] <PsySine> JakubS: the latest in breezy
[05:47] <JakubS> PsySine: you can check using 'uname -r'
[05:47] <NRG88> and nothing in the Storage Media, only my floppy drive
[05:48] <PsySine> JakubS: 2.6.12-10
[05:48] <PsySine> JakubS: sorry i have to eat now
[05:48] <JakubS> NRG88: well, i have storage media empty too, until i actually insert cd or plug in usb stic
[05:48] <JakubS> PsySine: 2.6.12 is quite old
[05:48] <NRG88> but i had there hardrives to
[05:49] <NRG88> and the keyboard layout bug really freaks me out, i need hungarian layout, and maybe to use the multimedia buttons on my keyboard
[05:57] <syst> does any one know if its possible to get FN keys working on a laptop?
[05:58] <Nomad411> Would anyone know what drivers to pick in CUPS fo rinstalling a samsung 2010
[05:58] <Nomad411> since 2010 is not a choice of course
[05:59] <Nomad411> or better, can a manual install  of the drivers be done from teh web interface?
[06:04] <roconnor> Time woes: Everytime I wake up my laptop the time is wrong by 7 minutes or so
[06:04] <roconnor> :(
[06:05] <robotgeek> roconnor: weak battery
[06:05] <roconnor> Nope, I just put it to sleep for 3 seconds
[06:05] <robotgeek> roconnor: that is interesting :)
[06:05] <roconnor> i assume it is loading the wrong time from the system clock
[06:06] <roconnor> or rather it isn't saving the correct time to the system clock when ntp updates
[06:06] <robotgeek> interesting means i don't know the answer to that one :)
[06:06] <roconnor> ie when I click on adust date time
[06:06] <PsySine> JakubS: which is the best way to install a later kernel then? i've hard the dapper kernel doesn't work in breezu
[06:06] <roconnor> the truth is out there
[06:08] <PsySine> anyone, what is the best way to get a newer kernel in breezy?
[06:12] <NRG88> I want to emulate a win xp, what should i use? wine4lin or vmware?
[06:12] <PsySine> win4lin*
[06:16] <NRG88> it gives a better performance?
[06:18] <PsySine> i just corrected the spelling :)
[06:19] <roconnor> resume.sh calls hwclock --hctosys
[06:19] <Nomad411> NRG88: If you google it you'll find that vmware is better for performance.
[06:19] <Nomad411> Have you tried qemu?  It,s free
[06:19] <roconnor> but sleep.sh doesn't call hwclock
[06:20] <Nomad411> NRG88: I'd like to hear from people's experience running XP in kqemu on fast machines with 1 gig RAm at least
[06:21] <roconnor> I suppose the obvious solution is to add hwclock --systohc to sleep.sh ... but why isn't it there already?
[06:22] <ack> are there any good graphic based webpage making programs for kubuntu
[06:22] <robotgeek> ack: quanta
[06:22] <ack> is it free?
[06:22] <robotgeek> ack: yes, it's free and you can install it from adept
[06:23] <robotgeek> most software available for linux is free both in beer, and as well as freedom
[06:23] <NRG88> hm, i googled, and found out, that win4line is better in performance, cause it uses the linux file system, many linux services, etc
[06:23] <Nomad411> ahh?  Maybe things have switched around lately :)
[06:24] <ack> quanta isn't in adept
[06:24] <NRG88> oh, that review was created on 2002 april...
[06:24] <Nomad411> I'm running both win98 and Xp right now in kqemu.  Not very workeable for XP, tolerable for win98
[06:25] <NRG88> http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,69849,00.html
[06:25] <Nomad411> but my machine is an athlon 1800 with 512 megs of RAM
[06:25] <ack> robotgeek: it isn't in adept
[06:25] <NRG88> maybe you're right, and vmware is faster
[06:25] <NRG88> (now)
[06:26] <NRG88> ack, i think you have to enable some repositories
[06:26] <ack> how do i do that?
[06:27] <NRG88> click on manage repositories
[06:27] <NRG88> in the Adept menu
[06:27] <NRG88> found it?
[06:28] <robotgeek> !info quanta
[06:28] <ubotu> quanta: (web development environment for KDE), section web, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2178 kB, Installed size: 5308 kB
[06:29] <ack> yes
[06:30] <ack> found it
[06:30] <NRG88> ok
[06:30] <NRG88> you can see some lines, that are grayed out
[06:31] <ack> yes
[06:31] <roconnor> ah ha
[06:31] <roconnor>  Bug #23216 in acpi-support (Ubuntu): "clock is wrong after resume when hardware clock is set to localtime"
[06:31] <NRG88> and the lines that start with deb and deb src, and are grayed out, need to be enabled
[06:31] <NRG88> right click, enable
[06:31] <roconnor> well, close enough
[06:31] <NRG88> after that, click an apply
[06:32] <NRG88> ack: tell me if you're finished with that
[06:33] <ack> done
[06:33] <NRG88> ok
[06:34] <NRG88> then click on the Fetch Updates button
[06:34] <ack> done
[06:34] <NRG88> when that is finished to, type quanta in your search box, and it should appear
[06:34] <ack> cool, thanks
[06:36] <roconnor> which package is responsible for adjust-date-time?
[06:36] <ack> where do i find quanta now that its installed?
[06:37] <NRG88> hit alt+f2
[06:37] <NRG88> and type quanta
[06:37] <NRG88> it should appear
[06:45] <syst> Hi does any one know a decent audio player for Kubuntu. Ive tried XMMS and Amarok but they crash to much?
[06:46] <syst> :/
[06:47] <roconnor> yea, I end up using XMMS
[06:47] <roconnor> but it does crash alot
[06:47] <roconnor> :/
[06:47] <syst> any other players you can think of
[06:47] <syst> i just want to play my musi  :(
[06:47] <syst> *music
[06:47] <drummer> Hey, can anyone help me with a problem in Evolution Email?
[06:48] <_pollo> hi
[06:49] <_pollo> where kubuntu charges ipv6 module ? i was seeing /etc/modules and i only see three o or four modules
[06:53] <NRG88> is it ok if i modify the permissions at /dev/hda5 to user other than root?
[06:53] <NRG88> for example my user
[06:54] <supernix>  Hi what is the latest url for packages ?
[06:55] <jpatrick> supernix: which ones?
[06:56] <supernix> not sure I have not used Linux in quite some time
[06:56] <supernix> I am using KDE 3.4.2 as best I can tell
[06:56] <jpatrick> KDE? amaroK? KOffice?
[06:56] <supernix> I most likely need to update everything
[06:57] <jpatrick> "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-lastest breezy main" <- KDE
[06:57] <jpatrick> "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-lastest breezy main"
[06:57] <jpatrick> etc
[07:02] <supernix> hmmm getting an error about amarok-latest
[07:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how come can't i login in gmail jabber?
[07:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !jabber
[07:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[07:04] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: there's a howto on http://kopete.kde.org
[07:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok did it :)
[07:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what about the msn bridge?
[07:06] <jpatrick> msn bridge?
[07:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to use jabber on msn
[07:06] <kkathman-away> jpatrick hello :)
[07:06] <jpatrick> kkathman-away: evening :)
[07:07] <kkathman> jpatrick:  do you have a dapper install running?
[07:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to use jabber on msn?
[07:07] <jpatrick> kkathman: no
[07:07] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: not suer
[07:07] <kkathman> jpatrick:  thanks :)
[07:07] <jpatrick> I have a dapper chroot
[07:07] <fredy> how to enable smooth scrolling in konqueror ?
[07:08] <kkathman> jpatrick: is it Kubuntu, or ubuntu
[07:08] <jpatrick> Both?
[07:08] <jpatrick> it's just for pbuilder
[07:08] <supernix> guys I need the latest Kubuntu packages but the url deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-lastest breezy main gives nothing but a error
[07:09] <jpatrick> supernix: see kubuntu.org
[07:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jpatrick: ?
[07:09] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: not sure*
[07:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo ^__^
[07:09] <kkathman> jpatrick:  could you please check for me on your kubuntu install, to see what the default torrent program is, and where its located on the k-menu
[07:10] <jpatrick> KTorrent I think
[07:10] <jpatrick> out to supper ->
[07:11] <djk_> does kpdf need something special to display pdfs properly? for example, i'm having problems with delta, sigma, epsilon
[07:19] <tomas_> hi
[07:19] <tomplast> is there any clever brains out there?
[07:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, we are all vegitalbbes
[07:22] <morrow> did anyone notice that kmail in 3.5.1 is now sorting the imap folders case sensetive?
[07:23] <termo> nope
[07:23] <termo> morrow: here it doesn't
[07:24] <termo> at least not the IMAP folders
[07:25] <morrow> hmmm wonder if i changed something to force this
[07:25] <termo> konqueror has the option to sort case(in)sensitive
[07:25] <termo> I don't think they are related
[07:25] <termo> but they might be
[07:25] <morrow> neither do i :)
[07:35] <ralph_> Can somebody please help? I am trying to complete an upgrade to dapper.
[07:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> whtas wrong ralph_
[07:37] <Riddell> ralph_: what's the problem?
[07:37] <robewald> hi
[07:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi robewald
[07:38] <robewald> i would like some advise regarding file synchronization
[07:38] <ralph_> No problem, just never done such an upgrade. First I simply tried to change the apt source and repeat apt-get update and apt-get upgrade over and over till it is done.
[07:39] <robewald> I have a kde home with some programming projects and assorted binary files
[07:39] <robewald> should I use revision control like bazaar or unison
[07:39] <robewald> ?
[07:39] <edward0> so I have installed ubuntu-desktop to try gnome out but not when logging in both kde and gnome start
[07:39] <edward0> not/now
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> both start?
[07:40] <edward0> yes
[07:40] <GeniusDex> that sounds rather interesting :P
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ralph_: can you explain a bit clearer/
[07:40] <edward0> no :D
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[07:40] <djk_> how do i install kde 3.5.1?
[07:40] <GeniusDex> grub is playing tricks on me
[07:41] <ralph_> Ah, ok, now I got it ... change the apt source list according to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UpgradePaths and then use apt-get dist-upgrade.
[07:41] <GeniusDex> i can't get it to boot after an expert installation
[07:41] <ralph_> Is that correct?
[07:41] <robewald> GeniusDex: what does it say?
[07:41] <GeniusDex> Error 15: File not found
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ralph_: looks ok
[07:42] <GeniusDex> (note: i have no prior grub experience, only lilo)
[07:42] <GeniusDex> it's complaining my (hd2,0) fs is fat somehow while in the installer it's ext3
[07:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> GeniusDex: check your hdd in bios - check it's not set to auto, but to whatit actlaly is (cylenders/head/etc wise)
[07:42] <GeniusDex> or at least, /dev/sda1
[07:42] <GeniusDex> *opens bios*
[07:43] <robewald> GeniusDex: you mixed up hd(2,0) it should say hd(0,0) if it is sda1
[07:43] <edward0> what file on ubuntu controls what is started when you login using kdm/gdm?
[07:43] <GeniusDex> robewald: i also have 2 ide disks installed
[07:43] <GeniusDex> and the sata thing has a seperate bios
[07:44] <edward0> I know there is ~/.xinitrc and ~/.Xsession
[07:44] <GeniusDex> which recognizes the disks but where you can't set it to auto or something else
[07:44] <GeniusDex> (ie always auto)
[07:44] <robewald> GeniusDex: on which partition does your kernel reside?
[07:44] <GeniusDex> the /dev/sda1 one
[07:44] <robewald> edward0: do you use kdm to log in?
[07:44] <GeniusDex> update-grub reports no errors at all
[07:45] <robewald> GeniusDex: then gurb should have (hd0,0)
[07:45] <edward0> robewald: I can use either currently gdm
[07:45] <GeniusDex> robewald: also with 2 ide disks?
[07:45] <GeniusDex> let me try
[07:45] <GeniusDex> *reboots the rescue console*
[07:47] <robewald> edward0: I don't know gdm, only kdm
[07:47] <edward0> robewald: well then with kdm
[07:47] <edward0> what file?
[07:48] <GeniusDex> robewald: /dev/discs/disc2/part1 is what i mount as / and that's the correct disk
[07:49] <robewald> edward0: depends on which session you choose, if you choose default .xsession is sourced on startup
[07:49] <edward0> if I choose kde or gnome?
[07:49] <robewald> when you choose kde, then .xsession is not sourced
[07:49] <edward0> what is sourced?
[07:50] <robewald> edward0: included into the script that is executed
[07:50] <edward0> what?
[07:50] <robewald> edward0: ok, i need to be more explicit
[07:51] <edward0> :(
[07:51] <robewald> now follows a short lecture :)
[07:51] <edward0> I mean if it doesn't source ~/.Xsession/.xinitrc then what file?
[07:51] <robewald> none
[07:51] <edward0> when choosing kde session
[07:52] <edward0> well for choosing a gnome session then?
[07:52] <edward0> it has to
[07:52] <edward0> then what would cause both desktop enviornments to start?
[07:52] <robewald> well, yes the /etc/X11/Xsession and stuff, but no user script
[07:53] <edward0> when choosing kde only kde starts, but when I choose gnome both kde/gnome start :(
[07:53] <robewald> the root file doing it is /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession
[07:54] <robewald> please paste the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession somewhere
[07:54] <robewald> GeniusDex: is it working now?
[07:55] <GeniusDex> robewald: not yet
[07:55] <kezzerxir> Can any one help me out?
[07:55] <GeniusDex> grub is really confusing me
[07:55] <GeniusDex> any idea what the easiest way to edit is?
[07:55] <termo> kezzerxir: not if you don't tell with what
[07:55] <robewald> maybe edit at boot time, so you have a very quick boot cycle
[07:55] <termo> GeniusDex: with vim
[07:56] <GeniusDex> (i hate vim)
[07:56] <kezzerxir> I'm trying to install  a network card driver and keep getting an error, i have the error log, could you check out and see if u know whats wrong?
[07:56] <edward0> Mmm vim
[07:56] <robewald> nano? (about to enter editor religous war :-)
[07:56] <GeniusDex> yeah nano is a lot better
[07:56] <edward0> lol
[07:57] <GeniusDex> i usually use mcedit, but it's not in the rescue console
[07:57] <termo> kezzerxir: you can always post and pray someone takes the time to help you
[07:57] <GeniusDex> i can't remember the kernel image name :/
[07:57] <robewald> GeniusDex: ls /boot/
[07:57] <GeniusDex> in the grub console? ;)
[07:57] <robewald> tab completion should work
[07:58] <GeniusDex> ah it does
[07:58] <GeniusDex> ty :)
[07:58] <GeniusDex> and you were right about (hd0,0)
[07:58] <GeniusDex> why is it different from the path in the installer tho?
[07:58] <robewald> thats good for my ego
[07:59] <GeniusDex> heh
[07:59] <GeniusDex> ego is everything
[07:59] <robewald> GeniusDex: mmmh, if you used different kernels for install and boot like 2.4 and 2.6 it might be that the order was switched
[07:59] <GeniusDex> "Unable to mount root fs" bleh :/
[08:00] <mathias> Hi, i'm looking for a Kubuntu equivalent of Daemontools for Windows, aka a way to mount ISO CD images. Does such a thing exist in Kubuntu? :)
[08:00] <kkathman> !info ktorrent
[08:00] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[08:00] <robewald> GeniusDex: do you have a seperate boot partition?
[08:00] <GeniusDex> i don't
[08:01] <robotgeek> mathias: you don't need to have a program installed, mount cando it for you
[08:01] <GeniusDex> not since i made a big *oops* with those once on gentoo ;)
[08:01] <mathias> okay, how do i do it?
[08:01] <mathias> Right click on the file?
[08:01] <GeniusDex> "hey what's this small 20MB partition? ah well, let's delete it!"
[08:01] <robotgeek> mathias: i'm not on my machine right now, so i can't really help.
[08:01] <robewald> ok, but still you might still need the boot parameter root=/dev/sda1
[08:01] <mathias> Okay, but thanks.. ill try :)
[08:01] <robotgeek> try that, or google for "mount iso linux"
[08:01] <GeniusDex> robewald: even if i passs that it gives the same error
[08:02] <robewald> GeniusDex: oh, that's really something
[08:02] <robotgeek> it has something like mount -o loop something
[08:02] <GeniusDex> i hate the error personally, last time i had it it was because the sata chipset driver wasn't loaded from the initrd because that was formatted with cramfs and my cramfs support was a module as well...
[08:02] <GeniusDex> took me 3 nights of headaches
[08:02] <robewald> GeniusDex: do you have an initrd with the scsi modules included?
[08:02] <GeniusDex> i have nothing but a default kubuntu install
[08:03] <mathias> Okay, ill look inti it
[08:03] <GeniusDex> the disk was properly detected inside the installer
[08:03] <robewald> GeniusDex: you are still in the grub console?
[08:03] <GeniusDex> i'll reboot to it
[08:03] <robewald> nonono
[08:03] <robewald> no need
[08:03] <GeniusDex> i'm there already ;)
[08:04] <robewald> ok, just load the initrd
[08:04] <GeniusDex> how do i do that?
[08:04] <GeniusDex> ah
[08:04] <GeniusDex> initrd command
[08:05] <GeniusDex> that seems to work :)
[08:05] <robewald> my congratulations :o)
[08:05] <GeniusDex> thankyou
[08:05] <robewald> np
[08:05] <GeniusDex> the install doesn't continue tho
[08:05] <GeniusDex> so i guess something is still fubar
[08:05] <robewald> oh
[08:06] <kezzerxir> how set kunbunto so i can have root acess with the progarms
[08:06] <GeniusDex> last messages... can't open the cdrom; can't find /sbin/evms_activate
[08:06] <robewald> you havent finished the installer run?
[08:06] <GeniusDex> ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[08:06] <GeniusDex> i haven't completely finished yet no
[08:06] <robewald> where is your cdrom?
[08:06] <rosco> hi
[08:06] <GeniusDex> in my left hand
[08:07] <robewald> thats a bad place for the os opening it...
[08:07] <rosco> I would like to install kubuntu 5.10 on my powerbook. Should I create some partition before, from macosx, or does the install too do it automatically ?
[08:07] <mathias> Hi, i'm looking for a Kubuntu equivalent of Daemontools for Windows, aka a way to mount ISO CD images. Does such a thing exist in Kubuntu?
[08:07] <GeniusDex> oh it is
[08:07] <rosco> tool
[08:07] <robewald> mathias: it is called mount
[08:08] <GeniusDex> let's retry with cd
[08:08] <robewald> mathias: read the mount man page
[08:08] <GeniusDex> same error with cd inserted robewald
[08:08] <GeniusDex> this is depressing
[08:08] <robotgeek> rosco: you need to create it before, using ipartion, or some other tool.
[08:08] <mathias> where is that page?
[08:08] <mathias> Kubuntu documentation?
[08:09] <rosco> robotgeek: ok, thanks
[08:09] <robewald> mathias: open konqueror and enter man:mount into the addressbar
[08:09] <mathias> okay
[08:09] <GeniusDex> robewald: any idea how i can continue the install manually?
[08:09] <robewald> GeniusDex: wait
[08:10] <mathias> thanks
[08:10] <GeniusDex> *waits*
[08:10] <mathias> robewald: that looks okay
[08:10] <robewald> GeniusDex: try the command: base-config
[08:10] <_ace> mathias
[08:11] <GeniusDex> i have no path, any idea where it is located?
[08:11] <_ace> try mount -o loop=/dev/loop1 /your/path/to/filename.iso /mountpoint
[08:12] <robewald> there: /usr/sbin/base-config
[08:12] <GeniusDex> not found
[08:12] <GeniusDex> nice
[08:13] <robewald> what does mount say?
[08:13] <GeniusDex> /dev/sda1 is mounted to /
[08:13] <GeniusDex> and /sys /proc and /dev are mounted as well
[08:13] <robewald> ok
[08:15] <mathias> Oh my.. Mounting a CD is loads of trouble :(
[08:15] <robewald> so to recap, you installation went ok, without errors until you tried to reboot, then you fixed the /boo/menu.lst file for grub and then tried to reboot and expected that the installation would go on?
[08:15] <mathias> i type
[08:15] <robewald> mathias: you need to be root
[08:15] <mathias> mount [location]
[08:15] <mathias> ok, sudo
[08:15] <GeniusDex> i didn't modify /boot/menu.lst, i just entered the commands in the grub boot console in the boot loader
[08:15] <mathias> 2secs
[08:16] <robewald> GeniusDex: maybe you should?
[08:16] <GeniusDex> let me try
[08:16] <GeniusDex> hm
[08:16] <GeniusDex> my whole /usr is empty
[08:16] <mathias> robewald: it have to mention what "type" it is
[08:17] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:17] <GeniusDex> time for a rescue boot again
[08:17] <robewald> mathias: iso9660 if it is an iso
[08:18] <robewald> but it should be recognized automatically
[08:18] <GeniusDex> not always for loopback devices
[08:18] <robewald> maybe the file is not accessible to root
[08:18] <mathias> okay
[08:19] <mathias> robewald: someone should REALLY make a GUI version of this included in Kubuntu
[08:19] <mathias> robewald: this is so DOS-like its incredible...
[08:19] <robewald> mathias: i think there is, browse kde-apps
[08:19] <mathias> Ive tried a couple of apps from kde-apps
[08:20] <GeniusDex> robewald: i have to run update-grub after editing /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[08:20] <mathias> Most of them are filled with errors when i try to compile them or "make" them..
[08:20] <mathias> You can hear, im kinda new to Kubuntu
[08:20] <robewald> mathias: if I may educate you, the command line interface (cli) is really powerfull, once you understand it
[08:20] <mathias> You may educate me :)
[08:20] <robewald> GeniusDex: no
[08:20] <GeniusDex> so after editing it's ok?
[08:21] <robewald> update-grub is just for a newly installed kernel
[08:21] <mathias> I just like GUIs that are easy, compared to spending hours in the CLI.. :)
[08:21] <GeniusDex> ah
[08:21] <robewald> GeniusDex: yes
[08:21] <GeniusDex> k :)
[08:21] <GeniusDex> reboot time again
[08:21] <robewald> mathias: yes, for filling out data, but not for weaving together little programs
[08:22] <mathias> robewald: this is what i'm looking for in Kubuntu -->
[08:22] <mathias> http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=11577&file1=11577-1.png&file2=11577-2.jpg&file3=11577-3.png&name=MountISO
[08:22] <robewald> i once heard that vms has had a cli that asked you for all data it requires with tab completion
[08:23] <mathias> Thanks for the hints, i'll go trying to figure it out
[08:23] <GeniusDex> yay, the installer continues :)
[08:24] <GeniusDex> thanks a lot robewald :)
[08:24] <robewald> GeniusDex: hope you are fine now, i gotta go
[08:24] <GeniusDex> yeah i'll figure it out
[08:24] <GeniusDex> it's just that i had to get used to grub
[08:24] <GeniusDex> but that's ok now
[08:25] <GeniusDex> thanks :)
[08:25] <robewald> ok, np see you help the next guy :-)
[08:25] <GnoNayme> aside from KDE is there any other advantages to kubuntu?
[08:26] <GeniusDex> don't think there is, but KDE is really worth it anyways :)
[08:26] <GnoNayme> i have ubuntu, yet kubuntu seems to be peeking my interest?
[08:26] <Sirin> Yup. Just can't beat the seamless integration in KDE projects. ;)
[08:27] <Sirin> You can run Kubuntu and Ubutnu at the same time. :)
[08:27] <Sirin> *Ubuntu
[08:27] <GeniusDex> ubutnu, sounds good as well :P
[08:28] <Sirin> typo. xp
[08:29] <GeniusDex> ubutnu.org does point to ubuntu.com
[08:29] <Sirin> gnoname: Just type in your control panel, 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'. That's all you need to do.
[08:29] <mathias> oh my... im installing a tar.bz2 file
[08:29] <mathias> the readme tells me to write this in the console
[08:29] <mathias> tar -jxf mount-iso-0.9.1.tar.bz2
[08:30] <mathias> But i get completely non-comprehendible errors (like always when there is no GUI :S)
[08:30] <mathias> "child returned status 2" ? :S
[08:30] <GeniusDex> and you didn't type anything else but that tar command?
[08:30] <mathias> how do i install a tarball?
[08:30] <GeniusDex> do you have the bzip2 package installed?
[08:31] <mathias> i must say, i dont have any knowledge on any of that
[08:31] <GeniusDex> the bzip2 package is required to unpack a .tar.bz2 file
[08:32] <mathias> ive downloaded the MountISO program from KDE-Apps.org
[08:32] <mathias> it gives me a .sh file
[08:32] <mathias> and a readme
[08:33] <GeniusDex> read the readme and try to understand it
[08:33] <mathias> it tells me this
[08:33] <mathias> Installation
[08:33] <mathias> ------------
[08:33] <mathias> 0) tar -jxf mount-iso-0.9.1.tar.bz2
[08:33] <mathias> 1) cd mount-iso-0.9.1
[08:33] <mathias> 2) ./install.sh
[08:33] <mathias> Please follow installer instructions
[08:34] <GeniusDex> you've done step 0?
[08:34] <GeniusDex> or are you still having an error there?
[08:34] <mathias> Which is to type it in the console?
[08:34] <mathias> it tells me that no such file or directory exists
[08:34] <GeniusDex> you have to type those commands in the console yes
[08:34] <GeniusDex> did the tar command finish succesfully?
[08:34] <mathias> i dont know :)
[08:34] <mathias> ill try again
[08:34] <GeniusDex> ok
[08:35] <mathias> it says it cannot open the file
[08:35] <mathias> mathias@MathiasKubuntu:~$ tar -jxf mount-iso-0.9.1.tar.bz2
[08:35] <mathias> tar: mount-iso-0.9.1.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[08:35] <mathias> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:35] <mathias> tar: Child returned status 2
[08:35] <mathias> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[08:35] <GeniusDex> hmmmmmm
[08:35] <GeniusDex> where did you download the .tar.bz2 file to?
[08:35] <mathias> the desktop
[08:35] <mathias> but i tried moving it to the /home/mathias/
[08:35] <mathias> directory
[08:35] <mathias> my home
[08:36] <mathias> It tells me the same
[08:36] <GeniusDex> you have to be in the directory with the tar.bz2 file
[08:36] <GeniusDex> or it won't work
[08:36] <mathias> have a version of konqueror open and typing it in the address bar?
[08:37] <mathias> i just opened Adapt. I have Bzip2
[08:39] <GeniusDex> konqueror won't work
[08:39] <GeniusDex> is the file still on your desktop
[08:39] <GeniusDex> ?
[08:39] <mathias> its in home
[08:39] <mathias> but ill copy it to my desktop
[08:40] <mathias> there
[08:40] <GeniusDex> if the .tar.bz2 file is on your desktop
[08:40] <mathias> now it is
[08:40] <GeniusDex> open a new konsole window/tab
[08:40] <GeniusDex> and first type in:
[08:40] <GeniusDex> cd ~/Desktop
[08:40] <mathias> yes
[08:40] <GeniusDex> if you then type 'ls' you should see the tar.bz2 file
[08:40] <mathias> yes
[08:40] <mathias> its there
[08:40] <ralph_> mathias: I don't know much about all this, but I can simply right-click on any file, select extract to and get it decompressed via the GUI.
[08:40] <GeniusDex> k
[08:40] <GeniusDex> then you can run the 3 steps in the readme :)
[08:41] <mathias> okay, ill try that
[08:41] <Sirin> Hello, does anybody know of a GUI-Based Apache Configurator?
[08:41] <mathias> ralph: i cant do that. There is an option for Compress, when i right-click on an ISO file, but not an Extract
[08:42] <Sirin> similar to 'redhat-httpd-config'?
[08:42] <GeniusDex> Sirin: i know of none
[08:44] <mathias> Its not working
[08:44] <mathias> I must say...
[08:45] <mathias> I have spent 45 minutes trying
[08:45] <mathias> If there was an Adept package
[08:45] <mathias> or even better
[08:45] <mathias> If there was a right-click function, it would have been so much easier
[08:48] <mathias> oh my
[08:50] <mathias> how do i register?
[08:51] <mathias> ralph: ive installed the program
[08:51] <mathias> but it gives me an error when i try to mount an ISO fil
[08:51] <mathias> e
[08:51] <mathias> ERROR: "system:/home/Linux%20downloads/Diablo_II/Diablo_CD1.iso" is not readable, check file permissions!
[08:53] <mathias> ralph: thanks for your help, but now i've wasted an hour on something that should be working out of the box in Kubuntu. I'm sorry, right now i just need the relaxing feeling of my ever-working Windows XP.. :)
[08:53] <mathias> see ya
[08:53] <mathias> all
[09:06] <blu_snow> hello allz
[09:07] <Sirin> Hey, check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Folders-for-Windows-XP_W0QQitemZ5858808434QQcategoryZ193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[09:08] <Snake__> Sirin: unbelievable
[09:08] <Sirin> Snake__: Just what I mean.
[09:08] <bam_> morning
[09:09] <bam_> how do I kill the kubuntu splash screen, Its ugly
[09:09] <Snake__> bam_: it in kcontrol
[09:09] <Snake__> its*
[09:09] <Snake__> Under appearce and themes
[09:10] <Snake__> I should sell some linux distros on ebay
[09:10] <GnoNayme> Openoffice or Koffice  in kubuntu?
[09:10] <bam_> not that...the boot screen, normally it just shows what its doing, drivers, mounting etc...
[09:10] <Snake__> GnoNayme: they are both great, matter of persona opinion
[09:10] <Snake__> bam_: ah...im not sure
[09:10] <Snake__> Wow I cant type for crap today
[09:11] <bam_> hmmmmmz
[09:11] <bam_> did it once, but forgot how to
[09:11] <Snake__> Sirin: how does one email folders??
[09:11] <Snake__> Sirin: empty zip files? lol
[09:11] <kkathman> GnoNayme: OO2 is a more mature product, more features, Koffice is newer and has a different feel to it
[09:11] <Sirin> Snake__: I have no idea.
[09:12] <Snake__> Hehe
[09:12] <Snake__> kkathman: check out this ebay
[09:12] <Snake__> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Folders-for-Windows-XP_W0QQitemZ5858808434QQcategoryZ193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[09:12] <bam_> one tars them up first
[09:12] <Snake__> Hehe
[09:12] <Snake__> He sold 3 of them
[09:13] <kkathman> there's one born every minute
[09:13] <Snake__> Rofl!
[09:13] <Sirin> Snake__: You know, if he sells all of them, he can make up to $5,000 US dollalrs.
[09:13] <Snake__> Sirin: yep
[09:13] <kkathman> I think Microsoft would be interested in that entry :)
[09:13] <Snake__> Sirin: genious..but probly got shut down by MS for selling "Intellectial Propery" not owned by him
[09:14] <Snake__> As if its owned by MS...
[09:14] <Snake__> lol
[09:14] <Snake__> I should sell instructions to "Make your own free folders in windows!!!" to counter this :)
[09:14] <mathias> hi
[09:15] <Sirin> Snake__: I hope that he doesn't start selling text files. xo
[09:15] <mathias> does anyone have experience with the free Cedega Time Demo that runs for 14 days?
[09:15] <mathias> I cant figure out how to install it
[09:15] <GeniusDex> it has a nasty cedega logo on your screen
[09:15] <ralph_> Anybody got experience with an upgrade to dapper?
[09:15] <GeniusDex> i don't ralph_
[09:15] <mathias> when i download the file
[09:16] <GeniusDex> i'm not sure which repositories i should use *cough*
[09:16] <kkathman> ralph_:  what do you need?
[09:16] <mathias> it says something about it being an octet stream and that saving it will make a corrupt file :S:S
[09:16] <ClayG> hey guys, anyone here ever claim their girlfreind as a dependant and try to get a earned incom,e tax credit before?
[09:16] <Snake__> ubotu: tell GeniusDex about sources
[09:17] <ralph_> did the exchange of the sourcelist and did the apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:17] <GeniusDex> ty Snake__ :)
[09:17] <Snake__> Np :)
[09:17] <kkathman> ralph_: did you do an apt-get update before you did the dist-upgrade?
[09:17] <ralph_> exit without errors (just a few pything things went wrong)
[09:17] <mathias> okay, im outta here..
[09:17] <ralph_> Yes.
[09:18] <GeniusDex> Snake__: that source.list is all i need? no old references to breezy?
[09:18] <kkathman> ralph_:  ok
[09:18] <Snake__> GeniusDex: Umm not really sure, I assumed that was what you wanted (im not going to dapper until its released and stable)
[09:18] <GeniusDex> ah well we'll see
[09:18] <ralph_> the system came back up, but not completly.
[09:19] <kkathman> ralph_:  keep in mind that Dapper is developmental and all things dont work yet
[09:19] <kkathman> Dapper will not be released as standard until April
[09:19] <GeniusDex> i'll just use kde3.5 packages for breezy and the rest can wait if it's not completely functioning yet
[09:19] <ralph_> got stuck somewhere. Everything seemed fine till the message checking battery state and then the system stopped.
[09:20] <ralph_> Luckily the consoles are available.
[09:20] <kkathman> ralph_: might want to check the Dapper buglist and see if thats been noted yet
[09:22] <paulvolk> How would I check the md5sums of a iso?
[09:22] <GeniusDex> k3b checks them
[09:22] <GeniusDex> in the console you could use md5sum
[09:22] <paulvolk> cool
[09:22] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[09:22] <GeniusDex> np :)
[09:25] <paulvolk> in K3B how do you check them?
[09:26] <jpatrick> paulvolk: does it by itself
[09:27] <ubijtsa> hmm... just had a very interesting mail from a guy off LKML...
[09:27] <bam_> kill the splash screen in grub, n0 splash or just delete the splash word.....?
[09:27] <GeniusDex> paulvolk: act like you want to burn an image, load them
[09:27] <GeniusDex> at the bottom of the iso image info part it will have the md5 sum
[09:28] <ubijtsa> bam_: comment it out
[09:28] <ubijtsa> using a '#' :)
[09:28] <bam_> I figured.....cool, thanks
[09:29] <ubijtsa> eh?!? a "Proton Gentoo" car?
[09:30] <paulvolk> thanks
[09:30] <PupenoL_> does anybody know what might be wrong... I am tring to open a .chm: "/usr/lib/libkdevwidgets.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZTIN11KTextEditor8DocumentE"
[09:30] <Ferdi> hi there. i am using kubuntu 5.10 on a fujitsu notebook with a pro wireless 2200bg in it. i can't turn on the wireless device. can anybody help me out?
[09:35] <_jahon> hello all.
[09:35] <Lord_Athur> hi _jahon