[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94587 in restricted-manager (main) "Restricted drivers manager does not set properly screen resolution (ATI video) and change keyboard layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94587
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94588 in sabayon (main) "[apport]  sabayon-apply crashed with ValueError in c2py()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94588
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94590 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgDepCache::CheckDep()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94590
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94591 in Ubuntu "Desktop effect cannot be activated after having used the restricted manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94591
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94592 in Ubuntu "Evolution crashes on Spellchecking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94592
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94589 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice spellcheck is in UK English whereas the system is in US English" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94589
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94593 in kdebase (main) "An application using the MySQL driver may crash if the database is explicitly removed before QApplication is destroyed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94593
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94594 in console-setup (main) "feisty upgrade reset my console keyboard settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94594
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94595 in beagle (main) "[apport]  BuildIndex.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94595
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94596 in uucp (main) "Please merge uucp 1.07-19.1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94596
[12:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94597 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Settings for Logitech Optical Trackman unavailable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94597
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94598 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94598
[12:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94599 in Ubuntu "installer crashed ubuntu 6.10 Desktop i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94599
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94600 in Ubuntu "Juniper Network Connect SSL VPN Locks up either Firefox or Epiphany" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94600
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94601 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94601
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94602 in ubiquity (main) "updante to 7.04 hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94602
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94603 in gimp (main) "[apport]  gimp-2.2 crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_file_info_get_is_folder()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94603
[01:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94604 in Ubuntu "[need-packaging]  nspluginwrapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94604
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94605 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "when DVD is in drive on boot, two icons for the DVD appear on the desktop in gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94605
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94606 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94606
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94607 in time (main) "Examples provided in man page don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94607
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94608 in kdelibs (main) "kdeinit crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94608
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94609 in tracker (universe) "trackerd crashed during normal work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94609
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94610 in Ubuntu "ctrl+alt+backspace, gdm doesnt restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94610
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94612 in gnome-keyring (main) "[apport]  gnome-keyring-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94612
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94614 in Ubuntu "Crash when initializing the system." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94614
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94613 in Ubuntu "loosing mouse when switching with cntrl-alt-F1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94613
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94615 in kdebase (main) "Firefox launched from alt-f2 doesn't apply all gtk2-qt-engine settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94615
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94616 in mediawiki1.7 (universe) "mediawiki crashes on upgrade (eft>fawn)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94616
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94617 in Ubuntu "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94617
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94619 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Window is too large when there are 8 cpus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94619
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94620 in Ubuntu "Nautilus Audio Mouseover Preview Does Not Work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94620
[02:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94621 in Ubuntu "[need-packaging]  hipo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94621
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94623 in democracyplayer (universe) "Democracy crashes on first load try" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94623
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94624 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  pulseaudio-device-chooser-gtk" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94624
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94626 in restricted-manager (main) "Graceful treatment of manually installed drivers and impact on dependant tools" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94626
[03:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94627 in flumotion (universe) "flumotion install fails, launching app causes crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94627
[03:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94628 in beagle (main) "beagle crashed for no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94628
[03:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94630 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94630
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94557 in Ubuntu "window or dialog boxes do not show or refresh content" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94557
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94631 in xmoto (universe) "xmoto time begins to run slowly, other unwanted effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94631
[03:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94632 in bluez-utils (main) "[apport]  hcid crashed with SIGSEGV in strftime_l()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94632
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94633 in Ubuntu "laptop function key is stuck on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94633
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94635 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in XConnectionNumber()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94635
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94634 in compiz (main) "Menu Bar Entries Aren't Highlighted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94634
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94636 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94636
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94637 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[vmware]  ata1: reset failed, giving up" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94637
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94638 in gthumb (main) "gthumb resize shortcut" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94638
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94639 in Ubuntu "suspend to ram not working in acer aspire 5002 wlmi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94639
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94641 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "asm/bitops.h not included in linux-libc-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94641
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94642 in ubiquity (main) "Install failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94642
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94640 in Ubuntu "Old install CDs installs old version of Ubuntu." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94640
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94643 in restricted-manager (main) "Restricted Drivers Manager doesn't detect Conexant modem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94643
[04:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94645 in xchat-gnome (main) "[apport]  xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94645
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94646 in Ubuntu "Computer does not hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94646
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94647 in partman (main) "Resize operation failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94647
[04:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94648 in abiword (main) "Abiword crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94648
[05:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94649 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Credits and License - Bad CC-by-SA link and Contributors page link" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94649
[05:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94651 in glade-3 (universe) "[apport]  glade-3 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_param_value_validate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94651
[05:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94652 in kdepim (main) "contacts in kontact can't filter the field profession" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94652
[05:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94654 in libnotify (main) "No more notification popups after last week's update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94654
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94655 in debconf (main) "[apport]  debconf-escape crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94655
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94656 in gdm (main) "older cards fail Feisty default GDM install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94656
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94657 in ubiquity (main) "Install failed with exit code 139" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94657
[06:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94658 in arts (main) "arts crashes on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94658
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94659 in boot-icons (universe) "Graphical progress display for Feistyi386 livecd has stray line" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94659
[07:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94660 in gdesklets (universe) "deskletradar applet in gDesklets crashed gDesklets" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94660
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94661 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "[apport]  telepathy-butterfly crashed with IndexError in get_p2p_peers()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94661
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94662 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "[apport]  telepathy-butterfly crashed with GError in _io_channel_handler()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94662
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94663 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "[apport]  gossip crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94663
[07:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94664 in gdebi (main) "[apport]  gdebi-gtk crashed with GError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94664
[07:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94665 in belpic (universe) "Wrong module name for Webbrowser." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94665
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94668 in language-selector (main) "[apport]  qt-language-selector crashed with TypeError in _()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94668
[07:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94666 in Ubuntu "No desktop is loading if "Automatically save <Meeting>" is enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94666
[07:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94667 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-cups-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in g_signal_emit_valist()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94667
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94670 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in viaGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94670
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94671 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fails to detect modelines in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94671
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94672 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org 2.2 does not show impress graphics properly on "slideshow"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94672
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94673 in Ubuntu "Feisty : wrong screen definition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94673
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94674 in dhcdbd (main) "Dhcdbd doesn't recognize permanent (-1) DHCP leases" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94674
[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94556 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  luabind" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94556
[08:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94675 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with AttributeError in MakeBackendWidgets()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94675
[08:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94676 in xorg (main) "doesnt default to tty7 on boot up and X does not restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94676
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94678 in apport (main) "apport should write Package field to reports in /var/crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94678
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94679 in evms (main) "Can't remove snapshot (EVMS)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94679
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94680 in Ubuntu "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94680
[09:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94681 in samba (main) "Memory leak in smbd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94681
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94682 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org 2.2.0 crashed when changing icon size and style" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94682
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94683 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94683
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94684 in streamtuner (universe) "Streamtuner crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94684
[10:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94685 in human-icon-theme (main) "icon size inconsistency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94685
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94686 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94686
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94687 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94687
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94688 in beryl-manager (universe) "Deactivating Beryl-Manager destroys Window Frames" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94688
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94689 in Ubuntu "Splashy doesn't work fine " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94689
[10:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94690 in linux-ntfs (main) "Vista NTFS partition unbootable after resize" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94690
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94691 in kdenetwork (main) "kopete corrupted msn file download" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94691
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94692 in gnome-power-manager (main) "asus brightness not updated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94692
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94693 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94693
[10:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94694 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with TypeError in timeout)()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94694
[10:34] <dholbach> good morning
[10:37] <mvo> good morning dholbach!
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94695 in xorg (main) "it keyboard detected as us when reconfiguring" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94695
[10:42] <dholbach> hey mvo
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94696 in ppracer (universe) "[apport]  ppracer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94696
[10:52] <pochu> morning!
[10:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94697 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94697
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94698 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_event_dispose_queue()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94698
[10:57] <mvo> dholbach: can you answer me a n00b bughelper question? when I use -T, what conditions can I use? i.e. is it documented somewhere what is available and how the synatax of those is?
[10:57] <dholbach> there's no support for regex yet
[10:57] <dholbach> -T <package> <simple search string> <text to display, when something's found>
[10:58] <dholbach> mvo: ^
[11:00] <mvo> dholbach: ok, thanks. that makes sense. my output reads "<condition>" :)
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94699 in alacarte (main) "[apport]  alacarte crashed with AttributeError in __getPath()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94699
[11:01] <dholbach> mvo: are the bugs it finds ok?
[11:01] <mvo> dholbach: its still scaning
[11:01] <mvo> dholbach: I switch of -A to get faster results I think
[11:02] <dholbach> it will cache the attachments
[11:02] <mvo> u-m has a big bug list (mostly upgrade faiures of some sort)
[11:02] <dholbach> so it will be no problem after a while
[11:02] <mvo> right
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94701 in gnome-session (main) "[apport]  gnome-session crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94701
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94702 in gnash (universe) "[apport]  gnash crashed with SIGSEGV in gnash::SWF::SWFHandlers::ActionCallMethod()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94702
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94703 in evince (main) "Evince does not open pdf files if they do not have a 'pdf' extension" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94703
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94704 in Ubuntu "GNOME/Nautilus loses password for WebDAV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94704
[11:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94705 in network-manager (main) "network-manager stops too soon on shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94705
[11:08] <mvo> dholbach: yeah, seems to be working nicely
[11:08] <dholbach> rock and roll
[11:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94700 in gdebi (main) "Unable to install Oracle XE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94700
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94706 in lyx (universe) "large leaps in mouse-wheel scrolling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94706
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94707 in lyx (universe) "lyx does not use Compose key sequences consistent with GNOME applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94707
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94708 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "xorg nv driver needs XaaNoSolidTwoPointLine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94708
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94709 in Ubuntu "ifconfig" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94709
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94710 in evolution (main) "Evolution Crashed when trying to display images in email" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94710
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94711 in xfce4-panel (main) "crash reported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94711
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94712 in gnome-app-install (main) "qcad and rasmol have no app-install entry on the edubuntu serveraddon CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94712
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94713 in Ubuntu "eth1 interface wakes up after sudo ifconfig eth1 down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94713
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94714 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in QGridLayout::QGridLayout()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94714
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94715 in cohoba (universe) "Programming error when connecting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94715
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94716 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94716
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94717 in cohoba (universe) "Programming error after connection and contact status displaying" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94717
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94718 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel crash on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94718
[11:50] <dholbach> bdmurray: we could probably use a canned response for "please attach the crash report for the crash" - what do you think?
[11:50] <dholbach> seb128: will you announce your greasemonkey script somewhere? :)
[11:51] <seb128> dholbach: no
[11:51] <dholbach> ohhhhhhhhhhh :-(
[11:51] <seb128> I'm too busy :/
[11:51] <dholbach> ok
[11:52] <seb128> and we need to clean up the stock list of replies
[11:53] <dholbach> yeah
[11:53] <dholbach> i said that to bdmurray too
[11:54] <seb128> we need new stock replies BTW
[11:54] <seb128> one for when crash files are outdated and we need a new one with current versions
[11:55] <seb128> one when crash file is not working
[11:55] <seb128> one for valgrind if we don't already have it
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94719 in texmaker (universe) "[apport]  texmaker crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::fromLocal8Bit()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94719
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94720 in mercury (universe) "Upgrade mercury to stable release, possibly latest." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94720
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94722 in Ubuntu "ANts P2P" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94722
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94723 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with TypeError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94723
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94724 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with TypeError in timeout)()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94724
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94721 in hal (main) "USB flash not mounting on insertion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94721
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94725 in cohoba "Programming error which causes a crash when closing and restarting the same ubuntu user session" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94725
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94726 in tomboy (main) "middle-click for more actions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94726
[12:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94727 in tomboy (main) "middle-click for more actions (dup-of: 94726)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94727
[12:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94729 in gksu (main) "[apport]  gksu crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_draw_pixbuf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94729
[12:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94730 in netbase (main) "only one ethernet is configured if more are present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94730
[12:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94732 in apport (main) "Does not find correct package if binary uses the alternatives system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94732
[12:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94731 in gimp (main) "crash when open & saved PNG file renamed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94731
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94733 in xchat-gnome (main) "[apport]  xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_attribute_destroy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94733
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94734 in gdm (main) "[xubuntu]  GDM suddenly starts loading 80-90% of CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94734
[01:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94735 in ffmpeg (universe) "[apport]  ffmpeg crashed with SIGSEGV in avcodec_decode_video()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94735
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94736 in oregano (universe) "[apport]  oregano crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94736
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94737 in gdm (main) "[apport]  gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in _XkbReadGetMapReply()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94737
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94738 in xemacs21 (universe) "[feisty]  Xemacs shows curly braces '{}' as square braces '[] '" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94738
[01:33] <rbrunhuber> dholbach: Hi. You helped me a lot. RockMan got the bt issue in no time.
[01:34] <dholbach> ah yeah
[01:34] <dholbach> RockMan
[01:34] <dholbach> I forgot his name
[01:34] <dholbach> excellent rbrunhuber
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94739 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "Frequent lockups when NV 3d enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94739
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94740 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with TypeError in append_info()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94740
[01:36] <Fujitsu> Not more.... Argh.
[01:37] <dholbach> yoohooo exaile breakage
[01:37] <dholbach> amarok is crashing madly too
[01:38] <pochu> at least exaile isn't the default music player :)
[01:43] <fernando> moin all
[01:44] <dholbach> 470 untouched crasher bugs left
[01:50] <Hobbsee> ouch
[01:51] <dholbach> it was 650 yesterday
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94742 in Ubuntu "Feisty: menu management does not work fine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94742
[01:51] <Hobbsee> that's better
[01:52] <Fujitsu> dholbach: It'll be a whole lot better once LP gets a sane mechanism for adding tags when filing bugs, and apport is trained to use it.
[01:52] <Fujitsu> apport really isn't being nice to our bug totals, though :(
[01:52] <dholbach> Fujitsu: the infrastructure we have now is LOADS BETTER than what we had before
[01:53] <dholbach> Fujitsu: week long bug report ping pong (can you install libglib2.0-0-dbg and try to reproduce the crash), etc etc etc
[01:53] <dholbach> so you won't hear me complain
[01:53] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94743 in grdesktop (universe) "Terminal Server Client isn't able to copy to/from clipboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94743
[02:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94744 in language-selector (main) "[apport]  qt-language-selector crashed with TypeError in _()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94744
[02:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94745 in dnsmasq (universe) "Stable Release Update (SRU) Request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94745
[02:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94746 in mysql-admin (universe) "[feisty]  regression: mysql-admin does not work with mysql-server running on dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94746
[02:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94747 in firefox (main) "Firefox often hogs CPU then crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94747
[02:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94748 in xorg (main) "install asks for X resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94748
[02:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94749 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed upon click in GMail, Tiddly Wiki open overnight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749
[02:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94750 in alacarte (main) "[apport]  alacarte crashed with AttributeError in __getPath()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94750
[02:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94751 in goobox (universe) "goobox does not play mp3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94751
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94752 in gaim (main) "Startup notification doesn't work when gaim is started without a window (only in the notification area)." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94752
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94753 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94753
[02:58] <kincera> Hello everyone
[02:59] <kincera> Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I think there is a problem with XAUTH in Openswan on Herd 5
[03:01] <gepatino> kincera: have you search in launchpad.net, maybe there's a bug open for your problem
[03:03] <kincera> Yes. Unless I am looking in the wrong place
[03:04] <kincera> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/openswan/+bugs
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94756 in Ubuntu "Cannot connect to local Jabber server (Wildfire 3.1.1) with Kopete nor Gaim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94756
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94757 in amaya (universe) "[apport]  amaya crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94757
[03:05] <kincera> I haven't filed a bug report yet since I confess it's posible I'm doing something wrong. I don't think so, but it's possible.
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94758 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-cups-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in g_signal_emit_valist()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94758
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94759 in vmware-player (multiverse) "[apport]  package vmware-player failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94759
[03:10] <bddebian> Boo
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94760 in network-manager (main) "both wireless and wired connections are up after boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94760
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94761 in Ubuntu "[need-packaging]  PDT Php Developement Tools (Eclipse plugin)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94761
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94762 in totem (main) "totem "skip to" doesn't show current position anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94762
[03:14] <kincera> Just submitted it
[03:15] <jwendell> seb128, can you help the guy at bug 91973? in order to reproduce the bug, he needs to login in a xfce session, i have no idea how to do this...
[03:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 91973 in vino "[apport]  vino-server crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_class_cast()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91973
[03:17] <seb128> jwendell: I've added a comment
[03:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94763 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in TaskContainer::popupMenu()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94763
[03:21] <jwendell> seb128, thanks
[03:21] <seb128> np
[03:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94764 in dpkg (main) "After dist-upgrade dpkg crashed (Dapper to Feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94764
[03:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94765 in openswan (universe) "xauth doesn't seem to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94765
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94766 in evolution (main) "crashes when i start it up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94766
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94767 in xorg (main) "x11-common conflicts with xephem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94767
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94768 in audacity (universe) "[apport]  audacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94768
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94769 in straw (universe) "[apport]  straw crashed with TypeError in select_next_unread_feed()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94769
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94770 in gnome-panel (main) "Full X crash when changing # of desktops in switcher (running beryl)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94770
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94771 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94771
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94772 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in mallopt()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94772
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94773 in Ubuntu "error upgrading dapper to edgy on 64bit AMD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94773
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94774 in evolution (main) "Evolution adds empty page to every printout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94774
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94775 in libnss-ldap (universe) "libnss_ldap.conf is not world-readable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94775
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94776 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in html_object_get_left_margin()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94776
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94777 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "emacs-snapshot-gtk segfaults on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94777
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94778 in unattended-upgrades (main) "[apport]  unattended-upgrade crashed with SystemError in open()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94778
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94780 in acpi-support (main) "combination Fn+F5 does't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94780
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94782 in kdenetwork (main) "basic kopete install is crashing just after start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94782
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94779 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[feisty]  Swap partition is not being mounted/used (dup-of: 66637)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94779
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94783 in Ubuntu "network-admin crash upon loading." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94783
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94786 in debian-installer (main) "[netboot]  /lib/preseed/fetch-methods/{ftp,http} empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94786
[04:24] <pirast> bdmurray, what about my ubuntu-qa application?
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94787 in openafs (universe) "Openafs has a security hole with enabled suid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94787
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94789 in ubiquity (main) "gparted crashed when edit partition selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94789
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94790 in apport (main) "Apport should add 'need-arch-retrace' to the reports" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94790
[04:27] <bdmurray> pirast: Hi! I had been keeping an eye out for you but hadn't seen you.
[04:28] <bdmurray> !importance
[04:28] <ubotu> You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[04:28] <bdmurray> Have you read that?
[04:28] <pirast> bdmurray, hi!
[04:28] <pirast> yes.
[04:28] <pirast> i am a little bit busy currently :)
[04:31] <vonHalenbach-de> Is it possible to rsync a kubuntu feisty.iso to a xubuntu feisty.iso?
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94788 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "connection fails with non-"server" server cert (w/patch)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94788
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94791 in gnome-themes (main) "custom colors for active and inactive are too similar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94791
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94792 in asterisk (universe) "Asterisk 1.2.17 fixes SIP DoS vulnerability" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94792
[04:37] <bdmurray> pirast: Welcome to Ubuntu QA!
[04:37] <pirast> bdmurray, thanks :)
[04:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94793 in Ubuntu "problem with /dev/sda 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94793
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94794 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94794
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94796 in Ubuntu "Mis-mounting of DVD+/-RW/RAM Drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94796
[04:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94797 in firefox (main) "broken package warning at start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94797
[05:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94799 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "[feisty]  sshfs removes permitions of mounted folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94799
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94803 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGILL in raise()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94803
[05:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94801 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager takes over wireless connection even if roaming mode is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94801
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94804 in dhcp3 (main) "dhcp3-server init script fails to show problem in configuration file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94804
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94806 in mdadm (main) "Install Software Raid Inactive after boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94806
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94807 in nexuiz-data (universe) "nexuiz-data not backported with nexuiz (uninstallable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94807
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94809 in ubiquity (main) "feisty (herd5) installation on macbook failed (on package mouseemu)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94809
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94810 in php5 (main) "No XML/RPC.php for php4 in Dapper Drake" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94810
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94811 in Ubuntu "applet crashes on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94811
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94812 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash after attempt to install flash plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94812
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94813 in gparted (main) "starting gparted mounts all devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94813
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94814 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "nfs: edgy->feisty upgrades for people with nfs mounts and without nfs-common" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94814
[05:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94815 in openoffice.org-l10n (main) "Please conflict with openoffice.org-l10n-sh-yu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94815
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94817 in Ubuntu "kernel warning: BUG: at drivers/base/core.c:104 device_release()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94817
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94818 in gnome-panel (main) "Workspace names are wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94818
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94819 in apport (main) "apport should not advertise itself in the report summary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94819
[05:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94820 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "feisty herd5 AMD64 fails to detect SATA drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94820
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94821 in coreutils (main) "dd fills up kern.log, syslog and messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94821
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94822 in apport (main) "apport sends bug reports for situations which are not bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94822
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94823 in digikam (main) "Scan in digikam crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94823
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94824 in beryl-settings (universe) "The beryl settings manager crashes on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94824
[06:07] <Pici> contribute
[06:07] <Pici> er, wrong window
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94825 in Ubuntu "Main menu crashed when run apt-get" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94825
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94826 in compiz (main) "workspaces->viewports conversion on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94826
[06:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94827 in valgrind (main) "[UVF]  Sync with debian to 3.2.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94827
[06:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94828 in update-manager (main) "Please hold... quagga needs admin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94828
[06:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94829 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94829
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94830 in straw (universe) "[apport]  straw crashed with IndexError in select_next_unread_item()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94830
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94831 in Ubuntu "KNetworkManager inactive after login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94831
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94832 in gnumeric (main) "[apport]  gnumeric crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94832
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94833 in straw (universe) "[apport]  straw crashed with IndexError in select_next_unread_item()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94833
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94834 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94834
[06:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94835 in totem (main) "totem and other media players need to check DVD region" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94835
[06:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94836 in nautilus (main) "[apport]  nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94836
[06:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94837 in Ubuntu "Keyboard refuses to work properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94837
[06:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94838 in xfce-mcs-manager (main) "[apport]  xfce-mcs-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in _XIOError()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94838
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94839 in oem-config (main) "GDM language after final user configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94839
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94840 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[apport]  displayconfig-gtk crashed with AttributeError in _select_in_treeview()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94840
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94841 in Ubuntu "Cannot rename a folder/file on the gnome desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94841
[07:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94842 in Ubuntu "unexpected broadcast from the avahi-deamon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94842
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94843 in wengophone (universe) "no sound in wengo on 6.10 ppc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94843
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94844 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-power-statistics crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94844
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94845 in xubuntu-default-settings (main) "Installation doesn't work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94845
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94846 in nautilus (main) "nautilus does not show correct path after UP command" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94846
[07:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94847 in xchat (universe) "xchat irc problem .failes to start." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94847
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94850 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94850
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94848 in Ubuntu "mounting via UUID behaves strange in kubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94848
[07:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94849 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "System hangs on restart/shutdown with current fglrx driver loaded!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94849
[07:28] <Amaranth> Is there a reason every bug seems to automatically get assigned as medium importance?
[07:28] <dholbach> they don't
[07:28] <Amaranth> Not by launchpad, by someone with access to set the importance doing a drive-by bump
[07:28] <dholbach> i assign medium after every crash I looked at
[07:28] <dholbach> so they disappear from the unconfirmed/undecided list
[07:29] <dholbach> because I did some initial triage to them
[07:29] <dholbach> they don't linger around as looking 'untouched'
[07:29] <dholbach> does that make sense?
[07:30] <Amaranth> i guess
[07:30] <dholbach> good :)
[07:30] <Amaranth> seems like your interface is broken then :)
[07:30] <dholbach> which interface?
[07:30] <Amaranth> To look at 'new' bugs or whatever
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94851 in gnome-games (main) "Mahjongg: pause button disappears after resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94851
[07:31] <dholbach> maybe yes
[07:32] <Amaranth> alrighty then, back to poking compiz bugs :)
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94852 in file-roller (main) "File Roller Nautilus extension misinterprets path with hash (#)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94852
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94853 in Ubuntu "/bin/sh : can't acess tty/job control turned off " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94853
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94856 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_foreach()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94856
[07:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94854 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() (dup-of: 94021)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94854
[07:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94855 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "HP Pavilion a650e (amd64 running Ubuntu/i386) doesn't reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94855
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94857 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94857
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94858 in ubiquity (main) "syslog error file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94858
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94859 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "zd1211b not yet supported in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94859
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94860 in Ubuntu "Skype" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94860
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94861 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94861
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94862 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel 2.6.20-xx incorrectly claims processor overheating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94862
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94863 in wine (universe) "[apport]  wine-preloader crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94863
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94864 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94864
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94865 in Ubuntu "Gparted and USB Drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94865
[08:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94866 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94866
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94868 in straw (universe) "[apport]  straw crashed with ValueError in url_show()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94868
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94869 in Ubuntu "Konqueror crashes with libjpeg message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94869
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94870 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV in e2k_restriction_unref()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94870
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94867 in gaim-otr (universe) "Off-the-Record Messaging Mulitprotocols Buddies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94867
[08:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94872 in console-setup (main) "Problem on update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94872
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94871 in desktop-effects (main) "Change number of Metacity's workspaces when enabling compiz cube through desktop-effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94871
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94874 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV when connecting usb-camera" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94874
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94875 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash breaks on printing undefined symbol: gtk_html_print" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94875
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94876 in system-config-printer (main) "[apport]  system-config-printer.py crashed with AttributeError in getLangComment()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94876
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94877 in Ubuntu "No sound with Sound Blaster live 24bit external usb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94877
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94878 in Ubuntu "The installation froze at step 6 - Migrate Documents and Settings." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94878
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94879 in Ubuntu "USB stick unsafely unmounted cannot be written to" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94879
[08:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94880 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx broken - kernel module in wrong place" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94880
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94882 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() filling out a bug report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94882
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94881 in Ubuntu "Request ability to run admin commands on bootup and shutdown." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94881
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94883 in Ubuntu "size of pen-drive not recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94883
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94885 in wifi-radar (universe) "Intersil Prisim firmware Thinkpad A31p" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94885
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94886 in gdebi (main) "[apport]  gdebi-gtk crashed with KeyError in __getitem__()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94886
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94888 in Ubuntu "Beryl Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94888
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94889 in network-manager-vpnc (universe) "knetworkmanager does not correctly support network-manager-vpnc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94889
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94890 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox opens for usb stick full of youtube videos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94890
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94891 in phpmyadmin (universe) "pma in Feisty vulnerable against PMASA-2007-2 and PMASA-2007-3" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94891
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #94892 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-2.10 crashed with SIGSEGV in update_completions_on_idle_cb()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94892
[09:22] <stgraber> hey verb3k
[09:22] <verb3k> Hi :)
[09:23] <verb3k> How's the new machine?
[09:23] <stgraber> Better than any other I had :)
[09:24] <verb3k> Great :) at least the intel Graphics chip rocks
[09:24] <stgraber> yep
[09:24] <stgraber> ok, feisty alternate i386 expert mode test done :)
[09:25] <stgraber> All i386 tests for feisty alternate are successful (except auto-resize which has a patch ready)
[09:25] <verb3k> All ok?
[09:25] <verb3k> I see
[09:25] <stgraber> I'll stop testing for today I think :)
[09:25] <verb3k> Since early this morning I was refreshing fesity's cdimage page waiting for the beta
[09:27] <verb3k> Which is supposed to be released today
[09:27] <Adri2000> tomorrow
[09:27] <verb3k> Veta?
[09:27] <verb3k> Beta? *
[09:27] <Adri2000> yes, delayed because of a major bug in the kernel
[09:27] <stgraber> well we are testing the isos in order to be sure that the isos won't have a big problem
[09:28] <stgraber> and yes there were some bugs in the kernel related to the latest ICH chipset if I'm right
[09:29] <verb3k> ok ..and will the final version be released in the first of April?
[09:30] <Adri2000> April 19th
[09:30] <verb3k> good to hear that ...I can't wait to see the new "ubuntu studio" derivative .
[09:31] <verb3k> which is due to sometime in April
[09:45] <dholbach> have a nice evening - see you tomorrow
[11:15] <bdmurray> bug 88782
[11:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88782 in Ubuntu "entfernen/hinzufgen crashed" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88782
[11:32] <TheMuso> c
[11:32] <TheMuso> cd
[11:32] <TheMuso> gah
[11:32] <fernando> ls -lah
[11:32] <fernando> kill -9 1
[11:32] <fernando> :P


[02:16] <karstensrage> infinity, hope everything is well, maybe we could pick up next week?
[02:16] <karstensrage> if you need time, i totally understand though
[06:42] <ginggs> kirkland: hi! calc-stats FTBFS https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calc-stats/1.4-0ubuntu1 and the README file seems to relate to a different package
[06:49] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, what is the rationale for that ca-certificates-java patch?
[06:49] <LocutusOfBorg> as said on -release some days ago, the "fix" would be to not have postinsts for circular dependencies
[06:49] <LocutusOfBorg> and/or to merge the two packages into a single one
[07:05] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, hi, the rationale is obviously to fix its installation on armhf and therefore fixing builds of its rdepends like rustc on artful
[07:06] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, I don't care about a better fix, just about it to be fixed and this did the trick here
[07:07] <ricotz> e.g. this requires to be built, but fails due to this problem -- https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/rust-updates/+build/13512402
[07:44] <LocutusOfBorg> problem is that I don't get it, I think I can sponsor if you make me understand that change
[07:44] <LocutusOfBorg>  maybe just for artful, we'll see
[07:48] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, the problem is due to a openjdk-8 change the installation paths on armhf are different from other archs, ca-certificates-java mimics the jvm-*.cfg to work with a half-installed openjdk
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> ok but does that temp_jvm_cfg file gets removed after?
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> why is armhf different?
[07:48] <ricotz> it will be overwritten by the real one
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> why did this happen only on the last nmu?
[07:49] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, don't ask me, ask the openjdk maintainer
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> ok, can this change make the nmu1 reverted?
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. switching again to openjdk8
[07:49] <ricotz> this is not related to the nmu
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> ack
[07:51] <ricotz> openjdk being the cause is the reason I pinged d*oko about it
[07:51] <ricotz> I will be back in a few hours
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm sponsoring it
[07:52] <LocutusOfBorg> with some changelog changes
[10:38] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, thanks
[10:41] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, uploaded in debian
[13:48] <soc> hey
[13:48] <soc> is there a reason why wwidgets is still compiled against Gtk2 as a backend instead of Gtk3?
[13:55] <jbicha> soc: it's a lot of work, there was some discussion on https://bugs.debian.org/790222
[14:07] <soc> jbicha: thanks, just read the messages
[14:07] <soc> so the old webkit dep is dropped, wxwidgets can use gtk3, but they haven't ported their webkit dep yet?
[14:10] <jbicha> webkit is not the problem, it's making sure that everything wxwidgets works fine with gtk3
[14:11] <soc> ah, so wxwidgets could be built with gtk3, but people aren't sure if that wouldn't introduce bugs in applications using wxwidgets?
[14:13] <soc> jbicha: another, related question: gksu still depends on Gtk2, is there a Gtk3 replacement?
[14:14] <soc> it looks like MATE ported gksu to gtk3 ..
[14:14] <jbicha> apps should use PolicyKit
[14:15] <soc> jbicha: what's the recommendation for launching apps with root privs?
[14:15] <soc> e.g. gksu synaptic?
[14:15] <jbicha> the recommendation is don't do it ;)
[14:15] <soc> I beleive synaptic wont work any other way
[14:16] <jbicha> you can try gnome-packagekit as an alternative to synaptic
[14:17] <soc> uargh, caja-gksu depends on gksu?
[14:18] <soc> just tried gnome-packagekit, that's sadly not what I want to use
[14:28] <soc> jfc: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842184
[14:28] <jbicha> Ubuntu MATE 17.10 uses caja-admin instead of caja-gksu by default
[14:30] <soc> I'm not sure caja-admin is what I want, it also pulls in a lot of dependencies
[14:35] <soc> pkexec with those fixes mentioned in the bug report works!
[14:35] <soc> just got rid of gksu
[14:35] <soc> thanks!
[14:59] <jdstrand> cyphermox: hey-- curious if you saw my comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1697730/comments/32
[15:10] <cyphermox> jdstrand: there was an issue with systemd to begin with, xnox was fixing this week
[15:10] <cyphermox> but otherwise, yes, networkd should always be running, just not doing anything if it doesn't have configuration to deal with (and it should not have any on a desktop)
[15:11] <cyphermox> the missing NM file sounds like an upgrade bug maybe?
[15:40] <seb128> slangasek, bdmurray, is anyone from foundations coming in that stucked updates meeting?
[15:41] <bdmurray> seb128: I'm not in NYC but could join a hangout.
[16:29] <slangasek> seb128, bdmurray: sorry, I got pulled into another meeting, how did that phased-updates discussion go?
[16:30] <bdmurray> slangasek: It was good althought I'd still like to discuss what to do with halted updates e.g. expiration
[16:30]  * slangasek nods
[17:48] <jdstrand> cyphermox: I talked to xnox, thanks
[17:53] <xnox> juliank, is there a way to check that I am not racing with in progress apt at all?
[17:54] <xnox> juliank, for example, apt-get check succeeds, even when apt-get update is in-flight
[17:54] <xnox> =/
[18:11] <kalikiana_> o/
[18:22] <xnox> jdstrand, i think with libvirt however, there is a release-regression w.r.t. .libvirt machines
[18:23] <xnox> jdstrand, .lxd is explicitely disabled.
[18:23] <xnox> jdstrand, also stgraber says enabling .lxd resolution on the host will break things; and may not be possible with lxd-as-a-snap-only.
[18:38] <cyphermox> jdstrand: cool
[18:38] <kirkland> ginggs: fixed!  build successful now, thanks ;-)
[18:52] <ginggs> kirkland: \o/
[18:54] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: Someone just pointed me at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1530366 which refers to a packaging decision made because of having 4GB of RAM; I've just learned that we now have 8GB of RAM on the builders, so I'm wondering if the decision could be revisited?
[18:54] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: (Apologies if my "pick a random desktop person to ping" hasn't resulted in me talking to the correct person. :p)
[19:02] <jbicha> Odd_Bloke: oSoMoN is the primary chromium-browser packager in Ubuntu now
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> oSoMoN: o/ What are your thoughts?
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> jbicha: Thanks. :)
[19:07] <oSoMoN> Odd_Bloke, starting with chromium 61 we are now building with is_component_build=false (finally), so that issue should be fixed
[19:08] <Odd_Bloke> Faux: ^
[19:25] <Faux> :D
[20:03] <xorpad> Hi
[20:04] <xorpad> Who is in charge of the windows linux subsystem, does MS manage that or is it a FOSS project?
[20:04] <nacc> !ubuwin | xorpad
[20:04] <nacc> xorpad: afaik, it's Microsoft
[20:05] <xorpad> Oh okay
[20:05] <xorpad> I wanted to contribute to it, but MS doesn't like me
[20:06] <xorpad> well not that they don't like me but they won't hire me
[20:06] <xorpad> they liked me just fine for a job till I told them I never finished grade 5
[20:06]  * xorpad shrugs
[23:17] <ScottK> rbasak: You almost certainly want to sync the postfix I uploaded to Debian yesterday even though it's close to release.  Among other things, multi-instance should work now.


[01:51] <ahoneybun> hey peopll
[02:04] <manchicken> Hiya
[02:04] <manchicken> No responses to my email last night has me wondering if I'm the only one coding against libapt-pkg right now.
[07:12] <soee> good morning
[08:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:52] <soee> hiho lordievader
[08:52] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you doing?
[08:52] <soee> lordievader, today fantastic :) you ?
[08:53] <lordievader> Doing pretty good.
[10:53] <soee> https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/RUnScFFEF5b
[11:02] <Riddell> thanks soee
[11:02] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion rekonq 2.4.0
[11:02] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1256270
[11:03] <soee> Riddell, many people mention Chrome but it was never an option to be default right ?
[11:04] <soee> Chromium might be considered though?
[11:10] <Riddell> soee: it could be but it has no security support in ubuntu so that's a major downside
[11:11] <shadeslayer_> rekonq also needs a apparmor profile
[11:11] <Riddell> I'm surprised and pleased to see rekonq having supporters on that g+ thread
[11:23] <soee> Riddell, whats wrong with marble in trusty ?
[11:41] <Riddell> soee: I don't know, I'll take a look
[11:42] <soee> this one package holds backport for saucy i think :)
[11:46] <Riddell> anyone able to test the trusty packages?
[11:47] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: working on marble I am
[11:49] <Riddell> groovy
[11:49] <Riddell> I'm wondering why libakonadi-kabc4 is statically linked
[12:00] <Riddell> hmm, a complete mystery
[12:12] <Riddell> what's this moaning about?
[12:12] <Riddell> kde-config-pimactivity: spelling-error-in-description allows to allows one to
[12:12] <Riddell>  This package contains libpimactivity4 which allows KDE PIM to make use
[12:12] <Riddell>  the activities in the kde workspace.
[12:14] <shadeslayer_> I just ignore those, I'd just sync the description from Debian if it has the same package
[12:16] <Riddell> "python3-pykde4: python-script-but-no-python-dep usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/PyQt4/uic/pykdeuic4.py"  umm it does have a python3 dep
[12:16] <Riddell> lintian is weird sometimes
[12:17] <Riddell> well I'm fine to upload once marble is worked out
[12:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: what did you work out?
[12:17] <yofel> Riddell: pykdeuic4.py is python, not python3
[12:18] <Riddell> yofel: aah
[12:18] <Riddell> that should be patched for that package I guess
[12:18] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: new files, I added them to marble.install
[12:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: but did you work out why they're new? does the binary do clever things when called as marble-mobile or something?
[12:20] <Riddell> projects.kde.org still broken?
[12:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer, yofel: good for me to upload?
[12:22] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: one sec
[12:23] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: there's a marble-mobile in marble.install so we ship marble-mobile.desktop there
[12:23] <Riddell> ok
[12:23] <shadeslayer_> I should ship marble-qt.desktop in marble-qt, fixed locally
[12:24] <shadeslayer_> marble-touch.desktop goes in marble-touch.install
[12:28] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: all fixed and uploaded
[12:30] <Riddell> lots of marbles
[12:31] <tsdgeos> Riddell: i'm running trusty fwiw
[12:31] <tsdgeos> libkomparediff2-4 still stuck at .80
[12:31] <Riddell> tsdgeos: want to test 4.11.97 for us from PPA or will you wait for it to be in the archive?
[12:32] <tsdgeos> i'd prefer to archive test, too many ppas in here already :D
[12:33] <Riddell> fair enough
[12:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: I'll get it uploaded for saucy and precise
[12:43] <Riddell> to PPA
[12:48] <soee> :o
[12:48] <soee> Riddell, ++
[12:49] <soee> ee are you talking about 4.11.95 :>
[13:03] <Riddell> soee: 4.11.97
[13:03] <Riddell> it's 0.0.02 better!
[13:03] <soee> :o
[13:03] <apachelogger> why guest session locking is very handy
[13:03] <apachelogger> for locking yourself out of the system :@
[13:03] <soee> its 0.0.02 closer to 4.12 :)
[13:05] <soee> saucy build is ok :)
[13:05] <soee> now would you be so kind and make my weekend even better and upload it to build for saucy ? :)
[13:05] <soee> *trusty build
[13:13] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer_: who's responsible for https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5/+build/5280583
[13:15]  * apachelogger pokes shadeslayer_ with a stick
[13:15] <apachelogger> if you feel the need to delete a recipe at least also delete its builds
[13:15] <apachelogger> otherwise failing shit is blocking snapshots
[13:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:34] <shadeslayer_> yofel: me
[13:34] <shadeslayer_> argh
[13:35] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: me
[13:35] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: fixed
[13:56] <shadeslayer_> yofel: will the initial-upload script work for KDE SC 4.11.4?
[13:59] <Riddell> phew 4.11.4, no rest for us!
[14:02] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[15:12] <yofel> shadeslayer_: no
[15:12] <yofel> nobody uploaded .3 to saucy-proposed and it doesn't support fetching from PPA
[15:14] <shadeslayer_> drat
[15:25] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: can you also upload 4.11.3 to saucy-proposed?
[15:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: is it well enough tested?
[15:26] <shadeslayer_> and what happened to my kscreen upload for saucy :S
[15:26] <shadeslayer_> yofel: ^^ >
[15:26] <yofel> it's been in the PPA for a while now, nobody complained so far and I didn't see any issues either
[15:31] <Riddell> hmm this is what I want to do? ./kubuntu-archive-upload -v 4.11.3 -t ~/src/4.11.3/ --sru
[15:31] <Riddell> cos that doesn't seem to work http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494543/
[15:33] <yofel> oh drat
[15:33] <yofel> Riddell: update and try again
[15:35] <Riddell> seems to be going now
[15:51] <ovidiu-florin> http://geekaliens.com/blog/2013/11/test-out-firefox-os-on-nexus-s/
[16:12] <Riddell> "kde-config-cron-dbg_4.11.97-0ubuntu1_arm64.deb: deb contents timestamp check failed: E:read, still have 2907 to read but none left" arm64 breakage in a curious way
[16:12] <Riddell> yay libs is in [ubuntu/trusty] kde4libs 4:4.11.97-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[16:13] <shadeslayer_> -.-
[16:13] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: some of the machines are unreliable
[16:20]  * Riddell uploads 4.11.97 to saucy in kubuntu-ninjas
[16:20]  * Riddell uploads 4.11.3 to saucy-proposed
[16:21] <Riddell> oh fooey, I put the wrong version number in 4.11.97 in saucy
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1247235 for your viewing
[16:50] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: what happened to my kscreen SRU :S
[16:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: um I don't know, what happened to it?
[16:57] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: no one has looked at it :(
[16:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: right it's in unapproved
[16:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: ask ScottK nicely or another ~ubuntu-sru member
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> presumably ScottK is full from the turkey festivities
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> and is sleeping :)
[16:59] <genii> Tryptophan
[17:00]  * shadeslayer_ fixes QA page
[17:42] <soee> saucy building :) thank you !
[21:47] <soee> uhm http://www.oxygen-icons.org/
[21:47] <soee> someone upgraded PHP i think :)
[21:50] <genii> soee: Ouchies
[21:55] <genii> soee: Just emailed<EMAIL_ADDRESS>about it, in case he's not aware of the issue already.
[21:56] <soee> genii, well there are 2 option server owner upgraded php or hoster
[21:56] <soee> if 2nd option they should inform them
[22:35] <soee> few saucy packages failed to build :(
[23:39] <alaa> how can I connect to this chat using the irc client on kubuntu
[23:44] <alaa> hello?
[23:44] <alaa> how is that I can't see anything here>


[00:13] <valorie> keithzg[m], @ahoneybun:
[00:13] <valorie> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/photos/a.10151711701463918/10157224848358918
[00:13] <valorie> Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1214884296596566017
[00:13] <valorie> Mastodon: https://mastodon.technology/@kde/103447657674954989
[00:13] <valorie> Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6fab6f20143f01388505002590d8e506
[00:13] <valorie> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kde_plasma-a-safe-haven-for-windows-7-refugees-activity-6620651268073365504-318B
[00:14] <valorie> Reddit:
[00:14] <valorie> https://redd.it/els1iw
[00:14] <valorie> https://redd.it/els1r8
[00:14] <valorie> https://redd.it/els21x
[00:14] <valorie> https://redd.it/els2cu
[00:14] <valorie> it's on
[00:14] <valorie> I've not been on twitter yet; too many other things to do today
 From Discover on Google https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/01/08/meet-the-linux-desktop-aiming-to-be-the-perfect-upgrade-for-windows-7-users/
 This is a great article, on Forbes no less. Can we get it shared on our social feeds
 @Sick_Rimmit are we retweeting their post on twitter or just tweeting that link?
[20:31] <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1215370382502350848
[20:31] <valorie> although it seems to show code
[20:31] <valorie> :(
[20:32] <valorie> @ahoneybun I'll cancel that
[20:32] <valorie> I was trying to embed the video but that didn't go well
[20:33] <valorie> just tweeted the link instead
[20:33] <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1215370994551967744
[20:34] <valorie> I don't like that the top photo is of windows, but whatever
[20:37] <valorie> oh gosh:
[20:37] <valorie> Elon Musk
[20:37] <valorie> @elonmusk
[20:37] <valorie> ·
[20:37] <valorie> 10h
[20:37] <valorie> I put the art in fart
[20:37] <valorie> not rt'ing
[20:41] <valorie> @ahoneybun  do you have snow today?
 I did not.
[20:41] <valorie> we got a bit last night and it is only just now melting
[20:41] <valorie> kept snowing even though it wasn't accumulating
 I'm not sure what happen with that link since it looks like there is a twitter link or two there.
 Yea that's how it goes sometimes here as well.
[20:42] <valorie> far more rare up here
[20:42] <valorie> I like it
 Yea it's the wonder of snow without the work later lol.
[20:43] <valorie> exactly!
 Retweet everything, link to the tweets and tweet the links, then retweet the tweets, post to all social outlets about the tweets, links and retweeted linked tweets.
[20:47] <valorie> right, I'll log out of @kubuntu and do that from mine
[22:00] <keithzg[m]> Posted the Forbes article 45min ago, got one like and one boost so far, which is actually not that bad for the Fediverse, hah
[22:00]  * keithzg[m] really should have used the hashtag though, whoops
[22:03] <valorie> can't recall if one can edit toots
[22:03] <valorie> I ran out of time for the feds
 what server is that on keithzg ?
[22:13] <keithzg[m]> @ahoneybun: Oh the official Kubuntu one on Mastodon.technology
 Ah.
 valorie  are you able to reset your password on the LFNW site?
 It never sends me anything.


[04:20] <RAOF> For those playing at home, lp:~raof/mir/mesa-hybrid-support should light up any and all outputs connected to any and all GPUs. Probably; it needs serious cleanup.
[04:55] <duflu> RAOF: What's the expected behaviour if I put a graphics card in an intel desktop and try using both GPUs?
[04:58] <RAOF> duflu: Assuming your bios doesn't disable the intel GPU, you should be able to light up outputs on both GPUs.
[04:59] <duflu> Fancy
[04:59] <RAOF> This was tested on my Intel/AMD/Nvidia desktop :)
[04:59] <duflu> RAOF: Did you get tri-GPU going?
[04:59] <RAOF> (Which has the Intel GPU disabled by the firmware)
[04:59] <duflu> Oh
[04:59] <RAOF> I should see if I can turn it on.
[05:00] <RAOF> I don't have a third monitor though.
[05:00] <RAOF> Hm. Could try a projector.
[05:00] <RAOF> Hm. I actually don't need a third monitor...
[05:01] <duflu> Conveniently I have two Nvidia cards on the desk, for lack of better storage choices
[05:01] <RAOF> If I can convince the Intel to be the primary device, even though it's got no displays connected, then I'd be rendering on the Intel and displaying on the radeon and nvidia cards...
[09:55] <alan_g> Saviq: @bug 1665123 is Unity8 running on the h/w or using a host USC(?) server?
[10:00] <duflu> alan_g: Have you heard any news on 0.26.1 making it out of proposed any time soon? Today is feature freeze
[10:01] <alan_g> duflu: MirAL 1.2 (a no-change rebuild failed) just passed QA. Have poked ci-eng.
[10:01] <duflu> alan_g: Thanks. I shall soon EOD with confidence
[10:06] <Saviq> alan_g, there is USC in there, yes
[10:07] <Saviq> and that one's ran from /
[10:07] <Saviq> not from the snap
[10:10] <duflu> Saviq: Another thought on text rendering... if it's being rendered with float glyph offsets then we/Qt may need to ensure the glyph cache contents are at least double the resolution of the rendering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem)
[10:11] <Saviq> duflu, I think what greyback wants to do is the first thing, we're not telling Qt to align properly atm
[10:11] <duflu> Fair enough. More efficient and less work
[10:11] <duflu> Good night
[10:13] <alan_g> Saviq: then that mixing of servers is what breaks the snap.
[10:13] <alan_g> /sigh this brave new snap world has a lot of traps for the architecture we adopted.
[10:24] <Saviq> alan_g, aha, that sounds like something we've missed when designing this...
[10:25]  * alan_g wishes once again that snaps had an overlay-like filesystem
[10:27] <alan_g> Saviq: if we hacked a symlink in for the renamed platform .so it would (I predict) magically start working
[10:27] <Saviq> alan_g, that would make them tied to the host system, which we don't want :)
[10:28] <Saviq> I suppose the "nested" platform is the way to go...
[10:28] <alan_g> No, in the snap link the new name to the old
[10:29] <alan_g> That way the host driver can resolve the .so when loaded in the snap
[10:30] <Saviq> well, sure, but we'd have to maintain a list of symlinks like that ;)
[10:30] <Saviq> maybe that's what we need for now
[10:30] <alan_g> Only until you rebuild the snap with 26.1
[10:31] <Saviq> did that already
[10:32] <Saviq> now we've the opposite problem until 0.26.1 migrates to zesty ;)
[10:33] <Saviq> but this will happen every time we have a SONAME bump in the platform, so we really need to solve this proper
[10:34] <alan_g> It works fine in a .deb world. (And RPM could be fine too.)
[10:35] <alan_g> It's just we're doing stuff that snaps (and AFAICS flatpak) is designed against.
[10:39] <alan_g> Saviq: miral 1.2 is publishing. Did we need anything else to unblock Mir 26.1 on zesty?
[10:42] <alan_g> hikiko: if you've been using the miral::toolkit classes, then you should be aware they're moving to mir::client (in a new libmirclientcpp-dev package)
[10:42] <alan_g> Landing in archive real soon now (I hope).
[10:43] <Saviq> alan_g, no, that's all, thanks
[10:57] <hikiko> thanks alan_g :)
[11:06] <hikiko> alan_g, sorry had to reboot, I am running miral as a server (miral-shell) but I am using libmirclient-dev
[11:06] <hikiko> will I have a problem?
[11:06] <alan_g> nope
[11:06] <hikiko> ok :) thanks a lot!
[13:12] <dandrader> alan_g, have you just released a new miral?
[13:12] <dandrader> alan_g, CI just failed with this: "fatal error: miral/toolkit/connection.h: No such file or directory"
[13:39] <dandrader> alan_g, oh yeah, must be due to https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2476
[13:41] <alan_g> dandrader: yes. New package libmirclientcpp-dev, new names mir/client/connection.h, new namespace mir::client.
[13:41] <dandrader> alan_g, wan't miral supposed to ease the pain of constant api changes...
[13:42] <alan_g> Nope. The pain of constant ABI changes.
[13:45] <dandrader> alan_g, the funny thing is that I wouldn't have this problem is I were using mir directly for those bits
[13:46] <alan_g> dandrader: sorry, I thought ou were in the loop about this change.
[13:46] <alan_g> *you
[13:47] <dandrader> alan_g, I did see the message the other day but was expecting a smoother transition. and not so soo :)
[13:47] <dandrader> *soon
[13:47] <dandrader> miral releases fast!
[13:48] <alan_g> Ack. 1.2 got moved up because Mir cocked up binaries.
[13:48] <alan_g> Se we needed a miral release to unblock Mir 26.1
[15:46] <dandrader> alan_g, where's miral/toolkit/persistent_id.h now?
[15:47] <bschaefer> ./client/mir_toolkit/mir_persistent_id.h
[15:47] <bschaefer> o miral
[15:47] <dandrader> alan_g, ok. bzr told me "RM  include/miral/toolkit/persistent_id.h => include/mir/client/window_id.h"
[15:49] <dandrader> error: ‘for_normal_surface’ is not a member of ‘mir::client::WindowSpec’
[15:50] <alan_g> s/surface/window/g
[15:52] <dandrader> thanks
[16:11] <dandrader> alan_g, with new mir and miral my internal mir client code stopped working
[16:12] <alan_g> dandrader: odd. mine didn't
[16:12] <dandrader> alan_g, the connection returned by mir::client::Connection{mir_connect_sync(...))
[16:12] <dandrader> returns false here: mir_connection_is_valid(m_connection)
[16:13] <dandrader> alan_g, has anything changed there. like the connection string format
[16:13] <dandrader> ?
[16:14] <alan_g> AFAIK
[16:15] <alan_g> *not* AFAIK
[16:19] <alan_g> dandrader: does mir_demo_server work with mir_demo_client...?
[16:22] <dandrader> alan_g, no. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24007981/
[16:22] <dandrader> alan_g, I'm missing something it seems
[16:23] <alan_g> mir-graphics-drivers-desktop?
[16:23] <dandrader> alan_g, I have that
[16:24] <alan_g> updated?
[16:24] <dandrader> ohhhhhhh. mir-client-platform-mesa5 is still 0.26.0 for some reason
[16:26]  * alan_g thinks changing a .soname in the middle of a series doubled the problems
[16:26] <dandrader> alan_g, now it works. thanks!
[16:26] <alan_g> yw
[17:29] <alan_g> bschaefer: if you have time and motivation it would be good for someone other than me to try out: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/workspaces-example/+merge/316975
[17:29] <bschaefer> alan_g, yeah i can test it out!
[17:30] <alan_g> thanks!!


[02:15] <_ion> Any freenet 0.7 users?
[07:50] <_ion> http://johan.kiviniemi.name/software/random-background/random-background
[07:56] <Keybuk> hmm?
[08:08] <_ion> Sorry, that was offtopic. :-)
[08:08] <_ion> Just something i wrote just now.
[08:08] <Artanicus> seems you realy like ruby.. (:
[08:09] <Keybuk> I've yet to learn ruby
[08:09] <Keybuk> on first glance, it seems a little Python like, but without the nice syntax
[08:24] <_ion> keybuk: Some propaganda: http://johan.kiviniemi.name/stuff/python-ruby/ :-)
[09:09] <Keybuk> To get away with less typing, many Python programmers resort to making variables
[09:09] <Keybuk> (and methods) public even when there's no reason for them to be public.
[09:09] <Keybuk> that's not true
[09:09] <Keybuk> Python actively discourages private anything, with the "programmers are consenting adults" theory
[09:11] <Keybuk> __ is just a name-mangler
[09:11] <Keybuk> class Foo:def __*(foo)
[09:11] <Keybuk> just makes the method called __Foo_foo
[09:11] <Keybuk> so in your example, world.__World_double() is an entirely legal call to get at the "private" method
[09:13] <Keybuk> in general, that seems to be just a comparison of syntax though
[09:13] <Keybuk> what's different about the /language/
[09:13] <Keybuk> ie. what can I do in Ruby that I cannot do in Python?
[09:27] <LarstiQ> _ion: I'd also disagree with that section on private methods, it doesn't reflect python reality
[09:28] <LarstiQ> _ion: on len(obj) vs obj.len(), not sure if that is the reason, but len() will try a couple of different approaches
[09:31] <Keybuk> len is a built-in function
[09:31] <LarstiQ> _ion: also problems with "self", notation of instance variables and an example of a class
[09:31] <Keybuk> it just calls obj.__len__()
[09:31] <LarstiQ> Keybuk: afaik, it can handle __len__ not being there if it has __getitem__
[09:31] <Keybuk> it's a shame they didn't just make it a default len() method, but then early Python wasn't as "everything is an object" as modern python
[09:32] <LarstiQ> but yes, that might have something to do with it too
[10:42] <_ion> 0) "Python actively discourages private anything"  yes, therefore i like Ruby more. :-) If you like Python more, that's your right. 1) Everything you can do in Ruby, you can do in Python, C, Haskell, Java, Lisp, 68000 asm etc. They are just different. Well, Python doesn't support closures. That's actually a very big win in my opinion. Some people don't regard them as useful (often Python advocates, it seems), and that's their right.
[10:42] <_ion> That page is just my personal opinion, and everyone has (and should have) one. :-)
[10:43] <Keybuk> "closures" ?
[10:44] <_ion> http://martinfowler.com/bliki/Closure.html
[10:45] <LarstiQ> python does support closures afaik
[10:45] <_ion> Creating and referencing functions inside a function does not equal a closure.
[10:45] <_ion> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-July/229478.html
[10:45] <Keybuk> http://ivan.truemesh.com/archives/000392.html
[10:46] <Keybuk> that page gives you the Python examples
[10:46] <Keybuk> ok, so Ruby has first-class closures
[10:46] <_ion> If you read that page, you'll notice all the examples are oneliners.
[10:46] <Keybuk> what does Python have that Ruby doesn't?
[10:47] <_ion> That is not very handy. Python has lambda, but it doesn't support multiline code.
[10:47] <_ion> Well, currently Python is faster.
[10:47] <LarstiQ> explicitly by choice.
[10:47] <Keybuk> is everything in Ruby also an introspectable object?
[10:47] <_ion> Ruby 2.0 will have a new, fast VM.
[10:47] <LarstiQ> _ion: I'm fine with opinions, but your examples are not how one would write python code, so it's not a fair comparison.
[10:48] <LarstiQ> Keybuk: yes, and you can change the builtin types
[10:48] <_ion> Those are examples of how i would write python code. :-)
[10:48] <Keybuk> so functions are objects, which you can add methods to, or replace?
[10:48] <LarstiQ> _ion: right, you're more writing ruby in python then
[10:48] <Keybuk> so to make some Ruby code up
[10:48] <Keybuk> class Random
[10:48] <Keybuk>   def initialize
[10:48] <_ion> larstiq: No. I first learned Python, then found Ruby.
[10:49] <Keybuk>     @foo = @bar
[10:49] <Keybuk>   end
[10:49] <Keybuk>   def bar
[10:49] <Keybuk>     ...
[10:49] <Keybuk>   end
[10:49] <LarstiQ> _ion: so? It's not pythonic
[10:49] <Keybuk> end
[10:49] <Keybuk> Random.new.foo
[10:49] <Keybuk> does that work?
[10:50] <LarstiQ> Keybuk: one thing that python has is more libraries
[10:50] <Keybuk> LarstiQ: meh, Python's standard libraries SUCK
[10:50] <_ion> @bar (an instance variable) and Random#bar (a method) are different.
[10:50] <_ion> class Random
[10:50] <Keybuk> the most irregularly inconsistent mish-mash of crack on earth
[10:50] <_ion>   attr_reader :bar
[10:50] <_ion>   def initialize
[10:50] <_ion>     @bar = 42
[10:50] <_ion>   end
[10:50] <_ion> end
[10:50] <_ion> Random.new.bar returns 42
[10:50] <LarstiQ> Keybuk: that may be, ruby has less available
[10:51] <Keybuk> _ion: that's not what I mean
[10:51] <Keybuk> could I go  #foo = #bar
[10:51] <Keybuk> ie. create a new method foo that's a copy of the bar method?
[10:52] <LarstiQ> ruby has a distinction beween instance and module attributes, (and private/public), which is something I don't like
[10:52] <Keybuk> (and ruby doesn't appear to be able to spell "initialise" :p)
[10:52] <_ion> class Random
[10:52] <_ion>   def bar
[10:52] <_ion>     42
[10:52] <_ion>   end
[10:52] <_ion> end
[10:53] <_ion> Random.class_eval { alias :foo :bar }
[10:53] <Keybuk> _ion: can I do Random.foo = Random.bar
[10:53] <_ion> Random.new.foo  # 42
[10:53] <Keybuk> right
[10:53] <Keybuk> so it appears that a major feature Python has over Ruby is that everything, including methods, is an object
[10:53] <Keybuk> and that everything is introspectable
[10:53] <Keybuk> Ruby appears to lack that
[10:55] <Keybuk> a method in Python is just an object of a particular type that implements a __call__ method that executes the attached Python bytecode, etc.
[10:55] <Keybuk> oh, another way of doing closures in Python, apparently:
[10:55] <Keybuk> def foo(self, a, b, c):
[10:56] <Keybuk>   def closure():
[10:56] <Keybuk>     return a
[10:56] <Keybuk>   some_call(closure)
[10:56] <LarstiQ> that would be _the_ way to do closures?
[10:56] <LarstiQ> although 2.5 has partial()
[10:56] <Keybuk> that has the same "is executed in the namespace of the calling function" requirements
[11:00] <Keybuk> of course, the key point about any language is the applicability of that language for certain tasks
[11:00] <Keybuk> if you're doing low-level systems programming, then you write it in C
[11:00] <Keybuk> if you're doing any kind of text munging, you write it in Perl
[11:00] <Keybuk> Python seems to be winning for rapid tool and application creation
[11:01] <Keybuk> there's a battle between C# and Python for "best GUI development" language
[11:01] <Keybuk> I've not yet seen anything that makes web apps easy
[11:03] <Keybuk> Perl, PHP and Python all seem equally bad at it
[11:03] <Keybuk> Ruby on Rails seems popular this week
[11:03] <Keybuk> though I must admit, from looking at the code of Typo, I can't see why
[11:04] <LarstiQ> heh, Typo is in ruby and Typo3 in php?


[01:49] <bronson> I have a Thinkpad T61 tablet with Intel WiFi Link 4965 AGN ...
[01:49] <bronson> Anyone know if the Gutsy kernel should work with this?
[01:49] <crimsun> yes, it should.
[01:50] <bronson> That's what I thought...   I'm getting no love.
[01:50] <bronson> scanning dmesg...
[01:51] <Nafallo> baah. and I bought the earlier since I didn't thought it would :-P
[01:51] <Nafallo> I should have asked.
[01:52] <Nafallo> but then again... DRAFT-N ;-)
[01:53] <bronson> Right...  I was hoping to get lucky since the Intel guys had already released working code.
[01:53] <bronson> Guess I'm not THAT lucky....
[02:00] <bronson> Overall, I'm pretty impressed with how well Gutsy works on this 2 week old laptop.
[02:00] <bronson> Just the pesky wireless...  and the backlight.
[02:01] <crimsun> oh, sorry, misparsed that~
[02:01] <crimsun> actually I have no idea how I misparsed that as 3945, but whatever.
[02:02] <bronson> Yeah, quite different.
[02:02] <bronson> Intel apparently released a working driver though.
[02:02] <mjg59> iwlwifi /should/ drive 4965
[02:02] <mjg59> With luck I'll have test hardware in a couple of weeks
[02:02] <bronson> OK, I scoured dmesg.  It doesn't look like the kernel tries to even probe the card.
[02:03] <mjg59> bronson: It's quite possible we don't have a recent enough iwlwifi available
[02:03] <mjg59> (If we have it at all yet)
[02:03] <bronson> Module iwlwifi not found?
[02:04] <mjg59> Do you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed?
[02:04] <bronson> Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules
[02:05] <mjg59> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-7-generic
[02:05] <bronson> sorry, I see.
[02:05] <bronson> right.  :)
[02:05] <mjg59> We seem to be lacking a metapackage :)
[02:05] <bronson> Yes, I do.
[02:06] <bronson> mjg59: pretty late where you are?
[02:06] <mjg59> bronson: 1AM
[02:06] <bronson> oh, not that bad.
[02:06] <mjg59> Supposed to be in an office at 9:30, though
[02:06] <mjg59> So should really sleep soon :)
[02:06] <bronson> doh.  That's suboptimal.
[02:07] <bronson> At Canonical?
[02:07] <bronson> hm, why don't the arrows and tab key work in Gutsy's root shell?  (just idly wondering)
[02:07] <mjg59> bronson: How have you got to the root shell?
[02:08] <mjg59> Yeah, I'm visiting the London office this week
[02:08] <bronson> sudo sh
[02:08] <bronson> Ah, plain old su works.
[02:08] <crimsun> apparently the microcode for 4965AGN isn't in the l-u-m tree yet.
[02:08] <mjg59> Yeah, sh is dash
[02:08] <bronson> Surprised there's a difference.
[02:08] <bronson> Oooooh.  Yeah, that makes sense.
[02:09] <mjg59> su runs root's shell, which isbash
[02:09] <mjg59> (sorry, dodgy space bar)
[02:11] <bronson> I'll have to get in the habit of 'sudo bash'
[02:13] <mjg59> sudo -s is the best bet
[02:13] <mjg59> Or alternatively, sudo su
[02:14] <bronson> erm, what's the l-u-m tree?
[02:14] <mjg59> It's linked off kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[02:14] <bronson> Think it's worth my time to try to add Intel's code and send a patch?
[02:14] <bronson> Or are they going to get to it next week...?
[02:14] <bronson> (or soon)  do you suppose?
[02:15] <mjg59> Should be merged at some point soon
[02:15] <mjg59> Like I said, I should have test hardware soon :)
[02:15] <bronson> OK, I'll be patient.
[02:15] <bronson> What test hardware?
[02:15] <mjg59> HP 2510p
[02:17] <bronson> 2.8 lib wxga?  groovy.
[02:18] <bronson> mjg59: thanks for your help.  Hope you get the device soon.  :)
[02:19] <mjg59> crimsun: Looks like we need an alsa update for new Thinkpads :(
[02:20] <crimsun> ok, right.
[02:20] <crimsun> I'll look tonight when I get home.
[02:21] <mjg59> Thanks!
[02:21] <mjg59> How much longer do we have you for?
[02:43] <zul_> crimsun: leaving?
 sudo -s is the best bet
[03:10] <JanC> sudo -i  :)
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[11:17] <abogani> lamont: May i disturb you?
[11:19] <abogani> BenC_: ping
[11:24] <BenC_> abogani: yes?
[11:25] <abogani> BenC: No way to send a msg to kernel-team list. It is over-sized. May i send you this directly?
[11:26] <BenC> abogani: can you put it somewhere to download from and send the email with the URL to kernel-team?
[11:30] <abogani> BenC: Sure! I'm stupid... :-)
[11:31] <xivulon> mjg59: re wubi hibernation issues, I was reading http://kerneltrap.org/node/11756 , am I right that if that is implemented it may fix the issue in coming releases?
[11:32] <BenC> abogani: nah, you're good :)
[11:37] <mjg59> xivulon: In the long run, yeah
[11:37] <xivulon> cool
[11:41] <xivulon> mjg59: is it realistic to have suspend-to-ram working with fuse root fs in gutsy?
[11:58] <mjg59> xivulon: I'll look into it
[11:58] <mjg59> It /might/ be
[12:04] <xivulon> mjg59: thx a lot, since we loose suspend-to-disk while we wait for kexec, it would be nice to keep suspend-to-ram at least
[06:47] <mkrufky> again... i dont want to be a pest....  but this bug that i files months ago is causing a tech support nightmare for v4l
[06:47] <mkrufky> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/99107
[06:48] <mkrufky> s/files/fileD
[06:48] <mkrufky> is there a different place i should go to get some attention on this?
[06:49] <mkrufky> i am aware that ubuntu folks spoke to hauppauge to get these licensed firmwares.... but ubuntu is using the OLD firmware, and it causes problems with the current drivers, which use the *official* firmware
[06:49] <mkrufky> hauppauge did not license the old fw that ubuntu is shipping
[07:05] <apt_get> Hi people
[08:24] <lamont> amitk: out of curiosity, eta for -8.17?
[09:13] <amitk> lamont: next week
[09:13] <mikmorg> hello.
[09:14] <tsmithe> i just tested http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/linux-image-2.6.22-8-rt_2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb, and it works quite well (apart from the lack of lum). however, i did have an issue with my i915
[09:14] <tsmithe> lots of unknown symbols for drm: "[  118.858742]  i915: Unknown symbol drm_release" and suchlike in dmesg
[09:14] <lamont> amitk: next week == monday, or friday?
[09:28] <mikmorg> hello all
[09:28] <mikmorg> Does anyone know when the 20-16.30 kernel is coming out?