[13:39] <ralphy> ryan123, stobix: I can confirm that Ubuntu 13.04 does give those errors at first. I believe update the os fixes them (although it took a few days for them to disappear)
[13:39] <ralphy> updating*
[13:40] <Kartagis> stobix: yeah, add the lines blacklist fglrx in the file /etc/modprobe.conf
[13:40] <stobix> Kartagis: thanks
[13:41] <Kartagis> np
[13:41] <ryan123> ralphy: thank you for letting me know :D
[13:41] <Kartagis> following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions, how can I find out what my options for output are? for ex., I have a HDMI output but xrandr --addmode HDMI said HDMI is invalid
[13:41] <ryan123> ralphy: just wondering that's all
[13:41] <home555> эгоисты))))))))))
[13:41] <ralphy> ryan123: :-)
[13:42] <stobix> home555: Ni hao
[13:42] <Kartagis> !ru | home555
[13:42] <home555> =)))
[13:42] <home555> я не умею ты что)
[13:42] <balance> hi, tried to do apt-get install php5-dev to get phpize but i get the error: Err http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-updates/main php5-dev amd64 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 404 not found    and    failted to fetch http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-dev_5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb 404 not found
[13:43] <home555> бот может всех поздавать )))ууу
[13:43] <jrib> balance: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again
[13:44] <balance> jrib looks like it works, should i always first update before installing anything?
[13:45] <X-User_> ubottu, !ru | home555
[13:45] <jrib> balance: well not if you just updated recently imo; use your judgement
[13:45] <ralphy> balance: try installing the package now
[13:46] <jrib> balance: update just refreshes the package lists that your computer has for what's on the server.  What happened was that the server changed the package that was on the server (it was updated) and your computer wasn't aware of that because you hadn't updated
[13:47] <ralphy> balance: any luck?
[13:48] <balance> jrib i know, guessed that. ralphy already updated sry but it works now thanks
[13:50] <balance> ralphy yes thanks
[13:50] <xeon123> I have my hostname called Ubuntu. I want to do ping Ubuntu1 but I can't do it. How I associate my IP to the Hostname?
[13:51] <rila> You can
[13:51] <rila> You can't
[13:51] <Screwba> all: is there an upstart channel where I can ask some questions?
[13:51] <Screwba> ;)
[13:51] <Screwba> nevermind...d'oh
[13:52] <bekks> rila: Of course thats possible.
[13:52] <narcos> Any recommendations for a very small Ubuntu install? I want to run it in a VM, with minimal disk space/CPU/RAM.
[13:52] <bekks> xeon123: Add an entry for your IP into /etc/hosts providing all hostnames you want that IP to be associated with.
[13:53] <bekks> narcos: ubuntu server, and uninstall everything you dont want/need.
[13:55] <narcos> bekks: kk
[13:56] <Screwba> any UpStart guru's here?
[13:56] <Screwba> nobody answering on #UpStart
[13:56] <X-User_> !offtopic | Screwba
[13:57] <Screwba> *yawn*
[13:57] <Screwba> X-User: was just a question
[13:58] <X-User_> Screwba, still off topic! :)
[13:59] <Screwba> mad bro?
[13:59] <Screwba> had to check if I was on upstart as well?
[13:59] <Screwba> heheheh
[14:01] <vlitomsk> hello
[14:01] <nishttal2> hi.. i am running 13.04 and having a very annoying problem
[14:01] <nishttal2> when I try to drag windows from the title bar.. the window is maximized
[14:02] <nishttal2> i have to do it really slowly to make sure its dragged and not maximized.. how can i fix this?
[14:04] <stefan_> hi, is it possible to create a temporary hostname to ip setting without modifing the /etc/hosts file?
[14:04] <bekks> stefan_: No.
[14:04] <anonee> hello, how can I tell which program is using <IP_ADDRESS>:9050 ? I used netstat -an | grep ":9050" but just got information that it's listening on tcp... but how can I stop whatever is using it?
[14:05] <bekks> anonee: First, you have to find out whats the program - take a look at sudo lsof -i
[14:05] <Adre> bonjour
[14:06] <ralphy> bekks: I got to remember that command
[14:07] <Adre> c'est français ?
[14:07] <stefan_> is it possoble to set two ip's for one hostname?
[14:07] <Adre> it is french ?
[14:07] <stefan_> one if openvpn is on and the other when vpn is down
[14:07] <stefan_> ?
[14:07] <bekks> !fr | Adre
[14:07] <Adre> OK thank you
[14:08] <bekks> stefan_: What is the actual problem?
[14:09] <stefan_> i have an server on a laptop
[14:09] <stefan_> and the laptop is at different places (second places)
[14:10] <stefan_> so if the laptop is at the second place it is connected as client to the openvpn server
[14:10] <stefan_> but on the laptop-client is a server in virtualbox
[14:10] <stefan_> i can reach the server in the laptop-client from vpn-server via the ip address
[14:10] <stefan_> but the ip address changes
[14:11] <stefan_> if the laptop is at first place, the vpn is not needed
[14:11] <stefan_> and the server in the vm on the laptop has another ip-address
[14:11] <stefan_> problem: I don't want to edit the /etc/hosts every time
[14:12] <stefan_> second problem: the fritz box at first place doesn't allow to enter hostnames from other networks
[14:13] <anonee> bekks done, it worked, thank you.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> stefan_, try adding the IPs to  /etc/hosts.allow
[14:19] <draconus> would you recommend using RAID0/1 or is it better to have 2 separate drives instead?
[14:20] <stefan_> BluesKaj: do you know the syntax for that?
[14:20] <anonee> bekks one more question please, I'm trying to install this latest version of youtube-dl, http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html but I got this msg: gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found I've read but I didn't understand actually, how can I add one of the keys mentioned below in the page?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> stefan_,
[14:22] <BluesKaj> portmap
[14:22] <BluesKaj> ALL:192.168.X.X
[14:22] <FloodBot1> BluesKaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <stefan_> BluesKaj: and where is the hostname?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> stefan_, check my pm
[14:27] <BluesKaj> stefan_, that's my settings , your Ips will be differnt of course
[14:29] <stefan_> BluesKaj: hmm, perhaps I or you have an another understandig of the problem...
[14:29] <stefan_> my problem is that I have ONE hostname and TWO IP-Adresses for it
[14:30] <BluesKaj> include both
[14:32] <stefan_> BluesKaj: as example
[14:33] <stefan_> BluesKaj: hostname: virtualserver ip (if laptop is in local net) <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:34] <stefan_> if laptop is connectet over vpn, virtualservers ip cloud be <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:35] <stefan_> so if the laptop is local in /etc/hosts must be "<IP_ADDRESS> virtualserver"
[14:35] <stefan_> if it is connected over vpn
[14:35] <stefan_> in /etc/hosts must be "<IP_ADDRESS> virtualserver"
[14:36] <stefan_> BluesKaj: is that what you have done with hosts.allow?
[14:41] <semitones> hello!
[14:41] <ralphy> semitones: greetings!
[14:42] <semitones> I'm looking at my auth.log and I see a lot of the same thing -- is it normal to have lots of cron items there?
[14:43] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021618/
[14:43] <bekks> semitones: Yes.
[14:43] <semitones> what is it?
[14:43] <bekks> Cron entries.
[14:43] <jrib> semitones: it's cron running
[14:44] <jrib> semitones: are you familiar with cron?
[14:44] <semitones> slightly. My root's crontab appears empty though
[14:44] <draconus> can we have cron logins get logged elsewhere?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> stefan_, my vpn protocol doesn't require virtual server settings (l2tp/ipsec)
[14:44] <bekks> semitones: There are other cron entries, too.
[14:44] <semitones> to me it looks like there's a cron job running every hours
[14:44] <semitones> oh, other than in crontab
[14:45] <jrib> semitones: look at /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.*
[14:47] <A1Recon> I am working with the wget command and I am getting a problem here..... I want to download all images on a website. Say that any particular image's address is "www.example.com/images/kk/2/filename.jpg" and I want to download all the images within "www.example.com/images/kk/2/" so I type this into the terminal "wget --no-parent --recursive --level=1 www.example.com/images/kk/2/" and hit enter. But I just get these folders within my working directory
[14:47] <semitones> jrib, ah, cool, it's a job that writes down what hour it is in case of power failure
[14:47] <bekks> A1Recon: Where do you expect wget to store them?
[14:48] <A1Recon> bekks: in my working directory...
[14:51] <harris> anyone here know when ubuntu-touch will be out
[14:52] <A1Recon> bekks: Any idea why it is not working?? I thought that since I can get my hands on the index.html ..... i should be able to download the files too...
[14:52] <Mitchell92> Hi all, I've encrypted my hard drive.. Now I want to remove the encryption, or set it up so I don't have to enter it when turning on my system anymore. Any help?
[14:53] <A1Recon> bekks: Its an apache server which allows indexes (since i can see the list of files.) so wget should work with this...
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> A1Recon: robots.txt?
[14:54] <A1Recon> SchrodingersScat: yup
[14:56] <draconus> proxmox 3.0 web interface doesn't work with opera... what a shame
[14:57] <bekks> A1Recon: Regardless of the webserver wget stores the content it is downloading in the current directory, or in directories under the current dir - or under the target dir specified.
[14:58] <bekks> A1Recon: So why do you expect wget to guess the target directory
[14:59] <perrshp> hi
[14:59] <perrshp> i need help
[14:59] <perrshp> error http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:00] <bekks> perrshp: Whats the full, exact error message?
[15:00] <perrshp> sudo apt-get update <ENTER>
[15:00] <perrshp> and message..
[15:00] <perrshp> print that message
[15:01] <perrshp> 오류 http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:01] <perrshp>   404  Not Found
[15:01] <A1Recon> bekks: it stores the files in current directory but the thing is it does not download the jpg files that i am trying to download.
[15:02] <nickkkare> hi. wats the best download manager i can use on ubuntu
[15:03] <bekks> nickkkare: a terminal and wget.
[15:04] <bekks> perrshp: 404 not found - the URL is invalid, since it is just the base URL of all PPA on launchpad. You have to enter the correct, full URL.
[15:04] <A1Recon> bekks: oh the robots.txt has this >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021651/
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> nickkkare: I like wget
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> A1Recon: then don't you need --no-robots or whatever the flag is?  because /images/ is in robots and wget respcets that iirc
[15:05] <perrshp> bekks: full URL
[15:05] <bekks> A1Recon: man wget -> -e robots=off :)
[15:05] <perrshp> error http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:05] <perrshp>   404  Not Found
[15:05] <bekks> perrshp: Thats not the full URL.
[15:06] <perrshp> in sources.list?
[15:06] <bekks> perrshp: Yes, in the sources.list
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> nickkkare, download what?
[15:06] <perrshp> bekks: okay
[15:07] <bekks> perrshp: For example: for the ubuntu-x-swat PPA, the URL is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ and not just http://ppa.launchpad.net
[15:07] <perrshp> bekks: deb http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu/ raring universe
[15:07] <perrshp> okay
[15:07] <bekks> perrshp: What am I supposed to do with that line you just pasted?
[15:07] <perrshp> bekks: i finding
[15:08] <bekks> perrshp: Whats your native language?
[15:08] <perrshp> bad Englis sorry
[15:09] <perrshp> bekks: http://ppa.launchpad.net/screenlets/ppa/ubuntu
[15:12] <perrshp> http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/
[15:12] <bekks> perrshp: It is pointless to paste URLS without any comment, error message or question.
[15:12] <perrshp> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:13] <perrshp> I need
[15:13] <perrshp> download the files
[15:14] <bekks> perrshp: Because the URL you pasted initially is wrong.
[15:14] <perrshp> I know what erorr is
[15:14] <bekks> perrshp: Then you have to fix it.
[15:14] <perrshp> i know 404 Not Found
[15:14] <auronandace> perrshp: we can't support ppas here, if you have a problem with a ppa you need to talk to its maintainer
[15:14] <perrshp> yes, you patient
[15:14] <perrshp> Thankyou
[15:16] <Guest66307> Hi
[15:18] <A1Recon> bekks: SchrodingersScat: Thanks!! A Lot!!
[15:18] <A1Recon> bekks: So the robots.txt was restricting access??
[15:18] <bekks> A1Recon: Thats what a robots.txt is for.
[15:18] <Guest66307> Hello,this is a test
[15:19] <bekks> !test | Guest66307
[15:19] <jacky_bot> ################################
[15:19] <nickkkare> download manager comparable to windows IDM
[15:19] <bekks> nickkkare: please dont expect anyone in here ever seen a specific windows application.
[15:20] <A1Recon> bekks: Hey where can i learn about these things?? robots.txt? Apache? Where do i start?
[15:20] <bekks> A1Recon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> Hi
[15:22] <nickkkare> bekks: thanks thot there might be ple like me who are converting to linux from windows
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> is Ubuntu still watching our datas?
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> Gr1zzly: I still remember the threat about having root.
[15:22] <Gr1zzly> wasn't that more than a therat?
[15:23] <Gr1zzly> Ubuntu uses the information about searches to show the user ads to buy various things from Amazon. Amazon commits many wrongs (see http://stallman.org/amazon.html); by promoting Amazon, Canonical contributes to them
[15:23] <auronandace> nickkkare: search the software centre for download manager
[15:24] <auronandace> nickkkare: also there are several available as firefox addons
[15:24] <bekks> Gr1zzly: ubuntu never was watching your data - and Mr. Stallman didnt even try to get to know on how easy it was always to disable the amazon shopping lense.
[15:24] <Richard_Holland> Can I task a question
[15:24] <Gr1zzly> Well he said it was easy to disable it
[15:24] <Gr1zzly> I just want to know it that feature is still in, since I am a noob
[15:24] <auronandace> Richard_Holland: if its a ubuntu support question go for it
[15:24] <jaapio> how do I add a user for sharing only? So the user will not show up in the login screen?
[15:24] <bekks> Gr1zzly: You can still disable it.
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> This is not the problem for me to be honnest
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> I know this, I just want to know if they still do that thing
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> and does that include kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu etc.?
[15:25] <bekks> Gr1zzly: If it isnt the problem - why are we discussing it in a support channel? :)
[15:25] <Richard_Holland> I wanna configur my network so that eth0 has a static IP addres that connects with the modem/router
[15:25] <Gr1zzly> ooh sry
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> I was looking for informations
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> so I went there ^^ didnt know it was just for support sry guys :)
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> Gr1zzly: try #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[15:26] <Gr1zzly> thx
[15:27] <Richard_Holland> using the configure file in /etc/networks won't work
[15:28] <bekks> Richard_Holland: why not?
[15:29] <ashwini_> Hi, a simple network query
[15:30] <ashwini_> essentially the same issue as http://askubuntu.com/questions/251580/created-hotspot-not-found-using-other-devices
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> If i configure it with a temporary IP address it goes good
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, do you mean /etc/network/interfaces
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> If have posted a question on the forum, on network and wifi
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> Yep
[15:30] <Richard_Holland> Still no reaction on there.
[15:31] <Richard_Holland> But it contains all the information
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, if you are using network manager you have to add the the static IP there too
[15:31] <ashwini_> I'm afraid for my case the issue would be the message "Booting system w/o full network configuration"
[15:31] <ashwini_> everytime
[15:32] <ashwini_> I guess something's not configured right
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> i uninstalled that
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> i am not using any gui  for the network configuration anymore
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !who | ashwini_ , Richard_Holland
[15:32] <Guest68512> !whoami
[15:32] <Guest68512> ahh
[15:32] <Richard_Holland> Sorry, first time us.
[15:32] <Guest68512> brb
[15:33] <Silencieux> Where can I find which build to use for an older Macbook Pro?
[15:33] <ashwini_> ah, it was a general question
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, ok check this out , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[15:36] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, I am gonna look that up. Thanks for the information so far.
[15:38] <hypodog> hi
[15:38] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, I have quickly scanned the page. And i have done al the things that stand there.  But I am gonna recheck it again. In this line of work one letter can mean lots of differens. ;-)
[15:39] <bekks> Richard_Holland: "quickly scanning" is a secure way into errors, when you dont know what the commands are doing your are just copy and pasting.
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> !mac | Silencieux
[15:39] <Silencieux> thank you wilee
[15:39] <Eagleman> Why can i delete a file using sftp with these permissions and chowned to the user root: -rwxr-x---  1 root root 1.3M Aug 24 17:39, when logged in as another user?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> Silencieux, Kind of a dated link is all, the builds I'm not exactly sure.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, when you get to /etc/resolv.conf  , you have to use this file instead  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , because it writes to /etc/resolv.conf ,
[15:40] <Richard_Holland> Bekks, unix systems and security are not new for me. It's just that Ubuntu acts different then the HP-UX i am used working with.
[15:41] <Silencieux> So maverick or hardy would be best for my model I believe
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, the tutorial i posted is esentilly correct , but with that one exception
[15:41] <Silencieux> should I use the LTS or recent release?
[15:41] <bekks> Silencieux: If you ask that way - LTS.
[15:41] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, the execption you just gave?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Richard_Holland, yes
[15:41] <Silencieux> thanks bekks
[15:41] <mamed> yhello guyz. newly upgraded to 13.04 how to install / where to install flash player for chro**browser
[15:41] <Richard_Holland> BluesKaj, thanks... I am gonna try it
[15:42] <Eagleman> Why can i delete a file using sftp with these permissions and chowned to the user root: -rwxr-x---  1 root root 1.3M Aug 24 17:39, when logged in as another user ( http://pastebin.com/9HKQgDDp )?
[15:44] <Muelli> Eagleman: deleting files needs permissions on the directory.
[15:50] <linuxuz3r> how do you install ubuntu on a macbook pro 13" 2009
[15:50] <Silencieux> !mac | linuxuz3r
[15:52] <mamed> guys  when i try to type a folder name in a main folder search engine is open . all want to find the directory quciker how can i overcome this
[15:53] <bekks> Muelli: Deleting a file needs permission on the directory, as well as on the file itself.
[15:53] <mamed> i dont want to search in subfolders i just want to find my directory easier that is why i type its name
[15:54] <diphtherial> hey, apparently my colleague's ubuntu installation self-destructed this morning after some routine updates
[15:54] <bekks> diphtherial: Apparently thats impossible. Ubuntu has no AI.
[15:54] <diphtherial> specifically, grub now seems to think that all four of his partitions are MSDOS partitions, and he can't boot his windows partition at all
[15:54] <bekks> diphtherial: Then ask him what he didnt told you yet.
[15:54] <diphtherial> bekks: sorry, i was following it up with more information..
[15:55] <diphtherial> as far as i can tell, he just allowed the updates to install, it rebooted, and now he can't boot it
[15:55] <bekks> diphtherial: Ubuntu does not change the partition layout nor the partition types itself without the user telling Ubuntu to do it.
[15:55] <diphtherial> bekks: right, which is why i'm confused
[15:55] <bekks> diphtherial: So he did not tell you all he did.
[15:55] <mamed> how to handle that search issue in a directory when typing a directory name
[15:55] <bekks> mamed: Which issue?
[15:56] <mamed> bekks, when i am in a directory and want to find a subdirectory i type its name . but in 13.04 it searchs all sub and sub directories
[15:56] <mamed> is this a nautilus issue?
[15:57] <bekks> mamed: When I am in a directory - in a terminal - and I type the name of a directory, I usually get "no such command".
[15:58] <holstein> mamed: try using a file search application
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> mamed  what command are you using to find a directory?
[15:58] <mamed> ii  think i could ot express my problem. bekks  imagine that you are in your home directory. and you want to type Documents . in ubuntu 12.04 and olders it highlghting the desired directory but in 13.04 it searches all sub directories
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have them run sudo fdisk -l to confirm what is there
[15:59] <mamed> i dont use a command i am talking about the gui nautilus
[15:59] <bekks> mamed: When I am in my home directory, "cd Documents" will let me change into that directory.
[15:59] <bekks> mamed: I never used a GUI file manager for navigating and searching files.
[16:00] <mamed> dont you have 13.04 with untity DE
[16:00] <bekks> mamed: Sure. But I have a wonderful "terminal" too.
[16:00] <holstein> mamed: the issue is, this is not a "bug".. or something that is "broken".. you want different functionality than the defaults.. i would try an application designed to search for files, and i think you will find more options to edit
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mamed  in a GUI, you click to open a directory, so where are you typing?
[16:01] <ABDULLAH> Hello ! I'm a novice in both ubuntu and programming.
[16:01] <holstein> ABDULLAH: this channel *only* deals with the ubuntu portion of your query
[16:02] <HypnotiX> evening gents, can you give me a bit of advice please, i have a new hdd should i create more then one partition for linux ? or that isnt necessary
[16:02] <mamed> okay. when i am in the /usr/share where there are lots of directories i just want to find themes directory . (scrolling takes time) when i type themes . find option opens in nautilus(file manager) and it searches in all sub directores . all i want to highlight the /usr/share/themes
[16:02] <mamed> my problem is above
[16:02] <ABDULLAH> I'm using Codeblocks and when I write code and try to run it it shows this
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: some make a separate /home/ for upgrading ease and etc.
[16:02] <ABDULLAH> permission denied.
[16:02] <holstein> !info catfish
[16:03] <holstein> mamed: ^ try using an application designed for searching for what you are looking for
[16:03] <HypnotiX> SchrodingersScat: so i should make a partition and set mount point to / and another bigger one with mount to /home ?
[16:03] <holstein> !chmod | ABDULLAH
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: that's up to you to decide.
[16:03] <mamed> holstein, it was ok in 12.04 this is not an aother application this is nautilus problem
[16:04] <HypnotiX> ok but that is the safer way to go right
[16:04] <bekks> mamed: And now the behaviour changed.
[16:04] <mamed> yes
[16:04] <holstein> mamed: this is *not* a problem at all...
[16:04] <HypnotiX> are there any drawbacks to creating two partitions for linux ?
[16:04] <ABDULLAH> it shows the directory and then permission denied. how can i fix it?
[16:04] <bekks> HypnotiX: No.
[16:04] <ABDULLAH> Pls .
[16:04] <holstein> mamed: there are many different file managers, and search applications if the default one is not doing what you expect or want
[16:04] <bekks> mamed: The behaviour changed. IT is not a bug, it is not a problem. It is a changed behaviour.
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> HypnotiX: the main benefit is that then later you can choose to *not* format your /home/ should you decide to overwrite your / or install another distro.
[16:05] <holstein> ABDULLAH: please see the link i gave
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> !partition | HypnotiX start here
[16:05] <holstein> mamed: if you prefer 12.04, 12.04 is still supported
[16:05] <mamed> ok how can i set the nautilusu searhc options
[16:05] <HypnotiX> Thanx guys, a real help as usual :)
[16:05] <bekks> mamed: You cant.
[16:05] <mamed> why not
[16:05] <holstein> mamed: im not sure you can. what i suggest is, use something that is closer to what you are looking for
[16:05] <bekks> mamed: Because it is not implemented to set them.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> mamed  look in dconf editor, maybe you find something usfeul there
[16:06] <mamed> hm if i downgrade the nautilus it works
[16:06] <holstein> mamed: the code is all open, and you are free to edit what you like, but as default, i dont think you have that option to chage that.. but, there are *many* other filemanagers that will do what you are asking, as well as the search tool
[16:07] <holstein> mamed: sure.. if you use a version of nautilus that has the functions you want, then the functions are there
[16:07] <holstein> !volunteers | HypnotiX
[16:07] <mamed> ok i found sth . this is my problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/275883/traditional-search-as-you-type-on-newer-nautilus-versions
[16:07] <holstein> mamed: its not a problem, friend.. its a change
[16:08] <mamed> yeah it is a painfull change
[16:08] <bekks> mamed: It is still not a bug, not problem. It is a changed behaviour.
[16:08] <mamed> it takes time to fins a directory
[16:08] <mamed> i see it is not a bug.
[16:08] <bekks> mamed: Then use 12.04
[16:08] <mamed> no i will downgrade nautilus
[16:08] <HypnotiX> holstein: my last statement was not sarcastic
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> mamed  some functionalities have changed in nautilus, that's true: de dual pane is gone, the 'show as list' is gone, other features maybe
[16:08] <holstein> mamed: there are many options, such as downgrading nautilus
[16:09] <mamed> here is an answer : As far as I know the new Nautilus 3.6.X cuts many features from the 3.4 and older versions. Canonical decided to keep using nautilus 3.4.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 because if this even though Nautilus 3.6 was already released.
[16:09] <holstein> HypnotiX: apologies :)
[16:09] <mamed> dual panel also? OMG it was so usefull
[16:09] <HypnotiX> np :)
[16:09] <holstein> mamed: yes.. that is the answer.. the filemanager doesnt have the features by default that you seek
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mamed  yes, i regret it too, the F3 dual pane
[16:10] <holstein> mamed: there are *many* other ones, such as the one mentioned at the link you gave which is AFAIK a fork of nutilus
[16:10] <mamed> MonkeyDust, :D
[16:10] <mamed> holstein,  yes
[16:10] <mamed> nemo is a fork afaik
[16:11] <holstein> mamed: then, if it better suits your, needs, use it, though i think its only available via PPA and not officially supported. though there are *many* other filemanagers, as i have mentioned
[16:11] <mamed> i will take a look at nemo which is a nau* fork
[16:12] <mamed> thank you so much for your attention guyz
[16:12] <ABDULLAH> holstein it's complicated. Just tell me the command to give permission to it.
[16:13] <holstein> ABDULLAH: i dont feel comfortable doing that.. its your code, and you should understand how to execute it, and what it is going to do on your system, or not be doing what you are doing
[16:14] <ABDULLAH> but i'm totally new. i don't know even a little. i love ubuntu .so i
[16:14] <ABDULLAH> diverted to ubuntu leaving windows.
[16:14] <holstein> ABDULLAH: then, you likely should not be doint what you are doing.. i am *not* new, by any means, and i dont run custom applications i have created on my system
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> ABDULLAH  start with the basics, later on, you can learn about permissions et al
[16:15] <holstein> ABDULLAH: im not trying to discourage you.. im just suggesting, you will want to know about permissions, and executing code and what that means.. and user permissions.. there are not "i just installed linux" friendly topics necessarily.. but i dont feel comfortable giving you a copy-paste command to run code that neither of us fully understand
[16:17] <diphtherial> i'm not sure where to start in figuring out this guy's problem with his bootloader
[16:17] <diphtherial> he claims that he didn't do anything to it in the last session, aside from installing the routine updates
[16:18] <holstein> diphtherial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:18] <ABDULLAH> oh i'm learning programming. i creates .c files and then run it.when i run it then a window opens showing the directory where i saved the .c file and then ":permission denied" without quotation.
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, There is the bootrepiar tool that generates a bootinfo summary alone if you choose just that to analyze the setup.
[16:18] <ljetibo> Hello it's not exactly spot on ubuntu question but close enough, I've just upgraded from ubuntu 10.4 to 12.04 and I'm having problems installing python2.6 (and it needs to be python2.6 because some of the modules I import do not work for other versions) so I installed python 2.6.6 from the ubuntu software center, I also installed "IDLE for python (version 2-6) using Tkinter" and now when I try to start IDLE (from terminal because no new icons were
[16:18] <ljetibo> created) I get the following message ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **. I looked it up online and they all say you have to install IDLE separately because it's not suported anymore, but I already did that. I installed python2.6-tk despite it  and it still doesn't work (same error message). I've tried other internet advice with some manual install guidelines and now I've just made a mess. Can anyone help me
[16:18] <ljetibo> install python 2.6 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:18] <FloodBot1> ljetibo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <holstein> ABDULLAH: as i said, when you got here, this channel is for ubuntu support, not programming
[16:18] <bekks> ljetibo: tldr; ;)
[16:19] <ljetibo> xD
[16:19] <ljetibo> sorry
[16:19] <ljetibo> I blab too much sometimes
[16:20] <holstein> ljetibo: i might consider https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes though, keep in mind, ppa's are not officially supported
[16:20] <ABDULLAH> but it asks permission from ubuntu directory. i want to know how to give it permission?
[16:20] <holstein> !chown | ABDULLAH
[16:21] <holstein> !chown
[16:21] <ABDULLAH> or can you refer to a channel of c programming.
[16:21] <ljetibo> holdtein: yeah I already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/125342/how-can-i-install-python-2-6-on-12-04
[16:21] <bekks> ABDULLAH: It has nothing to do with programming.
[16:21] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: thanks, i'll have him try that
[16:21] <holstein> ABDULLAH: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[16:23] <raub> abd-allah: I could not find the issue you are having. Care to explain it quickly?
[16:24] <raub> (I did scroll and feel I missed something)
[16:24] <diphtherial> so, this is the output from the boot repair utility: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021906/
[16:25] <diphtherial> (this is from running boot repair from a live CD; he can't boot into any of his partitions, including his windows one)
[16:26] <diphtherial> if any of you have any ideas about it, i'd be forever grateful
[16:26] <abd-allah> raub: when i write some code in .c file using codeblocks ide then i run the file using F9 command. then it opens a window showing the directory where i saved the .c source file and then "permission denied".it means it can't get permission to the file to execute.
[16:26] <holstein> diphtherial: bad hard drive, or other hardware
[16:26] <diphtherial> holstein: what makes you think that?
[16:26] <diphtherial> it's a new machine, new hard disk afaik
[16:26] <diphtherial> not to say that it's not bad, but i'd rather eliminate other possibilities
[16:27] <holstein> diphtherial: i dont.. its just a possibility.. new stuff breaks too, and *all* hard drives fail
[16:27] <diphtherial> right, eventually
[16:27] <diphtherial> but he was running windows fine before this; the problems started up when he tried to install ubuntu
[16:27] <holstein> diphtherial: i like to eliminate that possibility.. since new hard drives are just as likely
[16:27] <diphtherial> i mean, is there anything in what i pasted that indicates it's hard drive failure? it seems like the tool was able to detect all of the partitions just fine
[16:28] <Aravindgeek> abd-allah : did the source file is in ext2 or similar file systems. and not in fat or ntfs.
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, The live cd in disks has a smart check, the windows partitions are not showing any bootloader info. Did they resize windows with the ubuntu installer?
[16:29] <raub> abd-allah: are you running the program as the same user who saved the .c file? Do you own that directory?
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> when was the original install diphtherial ?
[16:29] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: i don't believe so, no, although i wasn't there when he installed it
[16:29] <diphtherial> it was about a week ago; everything was running fine, through multiple reboots
[16:30] <ljetibo> anyhow, when I try sudo apt-get install python2.6 returns: python2.6 is already the newest version. Same repeats when I try install python2.6-dev and idle-python2.6
[16:30] <diphtherial> (well, he had some initial trouble getting grub installed, but he eventually did it through the live CD)
[16:30] <raub> diphtherial: can you mount those drives?
[16:30] <raub> (er, partitions) :)
[16:30] <diphtherial> raub: yes, he's able to browse them fine, he says
[16:30] <abd-allah> raub:yes
[16:30] <diphtherial> (this is from the live CD, again)
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have they tried previous kernels for the ubuntu there was a upgrade lately some have had problems with, with nvidia drivers.
[16:30] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek:ext4
[16:30] <raub> Did you check if the uuid is still proper?
[16:30] <holstein> diphtherial: i would go to the hardware.. i feel there is not much to do "3rd party" in this way.. it could be anything
[16:30] <diphtherial> when he attempts to boot from the drive, grub thinks all his partitions are MSDOS partitions and doesn't allow any of them to boot
[16:31] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek :ext4 file system.
[16:31] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: ah, they haven't tried previous kernels afaik; i don't think they can even get that far into the boot process
[16:31] <holstein> diphtherial: an error message about this "msdos" idea would be nicd
[16:31] <holstein> nice*
[16:31] <diphtherial> for what it's worth, i'm providing support over facebook; bandwidth is limited
[16:31] <holstein> diphtherial: send them here
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, That does not make sense that is their interpretation, what eveidence shows msdos the partition table is msdos
[16:32] <Aravindgeek> adb-allah : did you tried to use gcc in terminal and execute in same folder.
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> the script shows standard partitions
[16:32] <raub> abd-allah: as the said user, go to the directory in question and create a dummy file (using touch) and make it executable
[16:33] <diphtherial> wilee-nilee: his current problem started occurring after installing recommended updates this morning, and he does have an nvidia card
[16:33] <diphtherial> let me ask him what he means about the drives being "MSDOS" drives, because i don't know what that means, either
[16:33] <abd-allah> Aravindgeek: I don't know how to use gcc.
[16:33] <holstein> diphtherial: you are assuming the upgrade triggered that.. and im not saying it didnt..
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, Have them run the previous kernel from grub
[16:33] <abd-allah> raub: how to use touch and make it executable?
[16:34] <diphtherial> holstein: well, it's the last thing that changed; i know, user error, he probably deleted his fstab, etc.
[16:34] <holstein> diphtherial: unless you send him here, or you actually go to the machine, i dont think this is going to be very constructive
[16:34] <raub> touch file and then chmod +x file
[16:34] <diphtherial> holstein: fair enough, but i think he's fed up with this already...
[16:34] <luisssss> hello everybody good morning
[16:35] <raub> I wonder what would happen if diphtherial have the guy login using the server install disk, then go to restore mode, mount the root partition, and then do upgrade-grub
[16:35] <diphtherial> still waiting on him for what he means by grub showing MSDOS drives, but perhaps i'll give up after that
[16:35] <diphtherial> raub: is there a difference between using the server install disk and the ordinary live CD?
[16:35] <diphtherial> he can use the live CD fine, it seems
[16:35] <holstein> diphtherial: i understand that can be frustrating, but as a volunteer here, i would prefer dealing with you at least actually being at the hardware, or your friend
[16:36] <raub> diphtherial: if it gives you any hint, last time I had issues like that is because I have a 512MB /boot partition and forget to delete old kernels :)
[16:36] <diphtherial> holstein: i understand, and i apologize that he's not here directly/i'm not there
[16:36] <raub> diphtherial: I think the server cd does the chroot for you
[16:37] <diphtherial> raub: interesting; that'd kind of make sense why it occurred after an update. ah, and he's been doing the chroot himself; in fact, that's how he loads his ethernet drivers when he's booted into the live CD
[16:37] <luisssss> o like to ask for help, i just installed lubuntu 13.04 yesterday, everything od ok, but the sound, the thing is that the icon is manage by "PCM" but when i try to adjust the volume it foed not respond, the one that repond is "master" can some one help me to gix this please
[16:38] <raub> diphtherial: but he does not seem to have a separate boot partition
[16:38] <inerkick> I have a shell script which has to be run just before the system shutdown. What to do, kindly help
[16:38] <raub> It would be smart for him to find out which kernels he has installed and delete the last one
[16:39] <raub> you know, using dpkg
[16:39] <inerkick> my script does nthing more it writes some text to file and
[16:39] <inerkick> waits(sleeps) for 20 second
[16:39] <inerkick> i tried running this script manually it works fine
[16:39] <inerkick> but when i put the same file in etc/init.d
[16:39] <inerkick> and create 2 symlink in  etc/rc0 and etc/rc6 by name 'K95customscript'
[16:39] <FloodBot1> inerkick: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <inerkick> and restart the OS the script is not called as i can see nothing is
[16:39] <diphtherial> raub: i'll suggest that to him, thanks
[16:39] <Navo_Leo> !help
[16:40] <psy^> can anyone recommend a good resource detailing which linux services do what? would like to really lighten my netbook install load
[16:40] <inerkick> sorry FloodBot1 here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021987/
[16:40] <ljetibo> I have been informed that what I'm need to do is "rebuild Python with Tkinter" and that he incantation is something like `apt-get build-deps python2.6` or something
[16:40] <draconus> is it wise to use raid1 these days? or should i rather split those drives?
[16:40] <ljetibo> can anyone here explain more about this?
[16:40] <raub> draconus: my NAS has 2 drives, so I do raid1
[16:40] <O[_]> is there any UI that looks like windows
[16:41] <O[_]> preferably something before vista
[16:41] <pepper_chico> O[_] isn't Mint like that?
[16:41] <psy^> O[_]: i like Linux Mint. its very familair to use
[16:41] <psy^> heh pepper_chico  :)
[16:41] <draconus> raub: just not sure what my gain is when using raid1 compared to non-raid
[16:41] <pepper_chico> heh =)
[16:41] <holstein> O[_]: i think all fo them do to some extent.. i think xfce/xubuntu does in some ways.. so does lxde/lubuntu
[16:41] <Aravindgeek> 0[_]: !xfce4
[16:41] <cgtdk> !xfce4
[16:41] <holstein> psy^: mint is not a UI, its a distro..
[16:41] <cgtdk> damn bot
[16:41] <psy^> ah, true
[16:42] <cgtdk> holstein: He probably means Cinnamon
[16:42] <holstein> cgtdk: ask him
[16:42] <cgtdk> holstein: I refuse to do so
[16:42] <pepper_chico> I've tried the very OS X like elementary, it's cool
[16:42] <holstein> cinammon is in the ubuntu repos now
[16:42] <inerkick> I am having this issue. can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6021987/
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> !ot | pepper_chico
[16:42] <holstein> elementaryOS is also not a UI.. its a distro
[16:42] <luisssss> i like to ask for help, i just installed lubuntu 13.04 yesterday, everything is ok, but the sound, the thing is that the icon is manage by "PCM" but when i try to adjust the volume it does not respond, the one that repond is "master" can some one help me to fix this please
[16:42] <raub> draconus: it all boils down to how much you like your data
[16:43] <pepper_chico> I know it
[16:43] <psy^> mate and lxde
[16:43] <psy^> those are the most intuitive i've used when coming from a windows mindset
[16:43] <wolffff> hi, im trying this " sudo mount /mnt/home /home /    gives me an error: /mnt/home is not a block device ???? any ideas? this is a VHD , not a physical disk
[16:43] <holstein> mate is not in the default repos, and not officially supported here
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ubuntu support questionbs only please
[16:44] <pepper_chico> but some distros caries the ui and ties more to it
[16:44] <raub> wolffff: /mnt should not have devices in. Are you sure it is not in /dev/something/home?
[16:44] <luisssss> thats because /mnt/home is a file
[16:44] <O[_]> what uis does mint have
[16:45] <raub> luisssss: like an iso? If so he needs to do the loop mount option thingie
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> luisssss: maybe the #lubuntu guys might know?
[16:45] <O[_]> mint looks more like windows 7 which I hate
[16:45] <luisssss> maybe if you type "lsusb" on terminal it will tell you the right path for your device
[16:45] <pepper_chico> I've opened a bounty at my supporting question: http://askubuntu.com/q/335489/152691
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:46] <luisssss> ok
[16:46] <luisssss> #lubuntu
[16:46] <pepper_chico> O[_], there was also a distro called PCLinuxOS, not sure it's what you're looking
[16:46] <farinata88> ciao
[16:46] <farinata88> !list
[16:46] <diphtherial> ok, i think it was the nvidia driver, not sure who mentioned that
[16:47] <diphtherial> he apparently was able to boot into his windows partition by holding shift, which predictably showed his installed OSes instead of booting into the first one and crashing...
[16:47] <diphtherial> (sorry, i realize this would've been much more straightforward if i'd been sitting there)
[16:47] <raub> inerkick: Check out update-rc.d
[16:48] <inerkick> what it does raub
[16:48] <wolffff> thanks ...and is the rsync command to copy everything from /home to /destination   " rsync --progresss -r /home /destination " ?
[16:48] <raub> diphtherial: sounds like all he needs to do is fix the default boot thingie in grub
[16:49] <bekks> wolffff: better use rsync -av
[16:49] <wolffff> bekks,  thanks what is the -av for ?
[16:49] <tripelb> psy^: what is a linux 'service"?
[16:49] <bekks> wolffff: That will use the options -a and -v
[16:49] <raub> wolffff: man rsync
[16:49] <wolffff> thanks
[16:50] <raub> wolffff: there are tons of crazy rsync options BTW. Get popcorn
[16:50] <wolffff> lol , i see that ...
[16:51] <Lededje> Hello
[16:52] <Lededje> Is anyone else on this channel?
[16:52] <raub> inerkick: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-managing-services-with-update-rc-d/
[16:53] <raub> My issue is I don't know if level 6 is the default shutdown
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> Lededje: 1600 users are
[16:53] <domedagen> Hi, I have a ridiculously difficult question
[16:53] <raub> that might be biting you
[16:53] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: this is probably one of the most populous channels on freenode, I think
[16:53] <O[_]> I forgot my password
[16:53] <O[_]> now i cant install apps
[16:54] <domedagen> I was about to install new graphics drivers when my computer crashed
[16:54] <domedagen> Now I cant boot to GUI
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: on the most popular Os :p
[16:54] <raub> O[_]: boot into inslge user, change it, win
[16:54] <domedagen> When I try startx I get no screens found
[16:54] <raub> s/inslge/single/
[16:54] <O[_]> ?
[16:54] <domedagen> What can I do?
[16:54] <inerkick> yes i was going through that initially raub but my issue is to run a process just before shutdown isn't?
[16:54] <O[_]> is this a live cd thingy
[16:54] <gordonjcp> !password | O[_]
[16:56] <inerkick> and will it automatically do it raub
[16:56] <raub> inerkick: I agree. But as I said I do not know if a normal shutdown uses rc6 or not.
[16:56] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : recovery mode - repair broken packages may help
[16:56] <raub> Or that is reboot
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> domedagen: ubuntu version and grafix card?
[16:56] <kisuke> ok any one know how to mount a SMB/NFS share in PCmanfm?
[16:57] <raub> inerkick: Right now I can't remember all the run levels in linux. All that is popping in my mind are solaris ones (5: shutdown, 6: reboot)
[16:57] <psy^> tripelb: daemons, basically. running 'service --status-all' from a bash prompt will show their active status
[16:58] <domedagen> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 12.04, nvidia 9400 GT
[16:58] <O[_]> shift or esc aint working
[16:58] <O[_]> when rebooting
[16:58] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Let me try that again
[16:58] <O[_]> its just booting normally
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> domedagen: like Aravindgeek says, recoverymode from grub might help
[16:59] <raub> O[_]: get your favourite livecd and have at it
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !failsafe > lotuspsychje
[16:59] <O[_]> I dont have one
[16:59] <kisuke> raub: isint system v based on solaris?
[16:59] <holstein> O[_]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[16:59] <anonee> hello ubuntu, do I have to be sudo to add a key using gpg?
[16:59] <O[_]> is there no easier way
[16:59] <kisuke> anonee: you should not.
[16:59] <raub> kisuke: or the other way around. All I know is that I used to love solaris until oracle ate them
[17:00] <O[_]> ive held down shift!
[17:00] <O[_]> it isnt doing anything
[17:00] <kisuke> raub: same with all of suns old stuff.
[17:00] <raub> anonee: a key to what?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> kisuke: maybe the !smb trigger might be usefull for you?
[17:00] <O[_]> I have the ubuntu cd
[17:00] <O[_]> to install it
[17:00] <kisuke> raub: IIRC system v and solaris levels are almost identical.
[17:00] <anonee> youtube-dl for instance
[17:00] <kisuke> lotuspsychje: thanks
[17:00] <holstein> O[_]: then, boot it.. the option i linked is to repair the lost cd from grub
[17:01] <bekks> kisuke: Solaris uses SMF nowadays.
[17:01] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: "There are no new upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled. Do you want to start the upgrade?"
[17:01] <anonee> raub youtube-dl
[17:01] <holstein> O[_]: booting a live CD will depend on your bios setting and particular hardware..
[17:01] <holstein> !bios
[17:01] <anonee> raub and tor...
[17:01] <holstein> O[_]: usually, its F2 or escape or delete key
[17:01] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Im going to go with a yes
[17:01] <anonee> raub looks like it won't add it
[17:02] <raub> holstein: man to his MB/computer would have an answer
[17:02] <Aravindgeek> domedagen :  I don't get it.
[17:02] <raub> anonee: unfortunatelt I've never used it
[17:03] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i tried the instructions on the page you suggested. It doesn't work
[17:03] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Me neither, it sounded like there was no update, but it still asked to continue
[17:03] <raub> I have added keys to my own user stuff (for emails and such) and for a local repository
[17:03] <holstein> O[_]: to be clear, what raub is suggesting is to refer to the user manual or documenation for the hardware to see how to enter the bios or boot media
[17:03] <kisuke> bekks: to mean that means Simple Machines Forum. I'm pretty sure thats not what you are refering to.
[17:04] <anonee> raub sounds good i wish i could learn such things but dunno... a lot of things to learn!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland , exactly what doesn't work , did you reboot after the settings and run sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[17:04] <bekks> kisuke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Management_Facility - and now back to something more ontopic.
[17:04] <kisuke> bekks: ty
[17:04] <anonee> i'm getting keyserver receive failed: keyserver error...
[17:04] <O[_]> ok done
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i restarted the the network interface with the comment networking restart
[17:05] <raub> anonee: pastebin?
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i didn't reboot. Would that help?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> RichardHolland: what error did you have?
[17:05] <raub> O[_]: done = boot using livecd?
[17:05] <inerkick> i don't get raub
[17:05] <inerkick> still
[17:05] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: The problem remains. I've tried googling this for hours. Is there a way to make it redo all the GUI set up?
[17:05] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, if i try a nslookup it time out. On the restart of the service i don't get a error
[17:06] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, yes , unfortunately it does , linux used to pride itself on not requiring reboots , but that has changed
[17:06] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, OK. So I'm gonna reboot. No problem.
[17:06] <anonee> raub http://pastebin.com/zBJ4kE5L
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ri run sudo dhclient eth0
[17:06] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland,^
[17:07] <raub> anonee: you can't reach that keyserver
[17:07] <anonee> raub why?
[17:07] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Like maybe recheck if there is any screens? Should i plug in and plug out GPU?
[17:07] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, that works
[17:07] <raub> it could be down or having lunch. Maybe there is a backup one
[17:07] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, why? Please explain.. .I wanna learn
[17:07] <O[_]> unable to read package 'emerald
[17:08] <O[_]> I did sudo apt-get install emerald
[17:08] <raub> O[_]: try apt-cache search emerald
[17:08] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : i am not sure but you may try .
[17:08] <raub> O[_]: I thought you had a pw issue
[17:09] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: Ok trying
[17:09] <bazhang> !emerald | O[_]
[17:09] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, By the way. Thanks helping solve the problem. I just hope you can explain what just happend.
[17:09] <O[_]> fixed that
[17:09] <O[_]> what is compiz
[17:10] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, dhclient assigns your static IP to dhcp
[17:10] <anonee> O[_] just google compiz, you should read a little about it if you insist on using emerald
[17:11] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, But i wanna use a static address. So why is DHCP still in the game?
[17:11] <O[_]> i might not now idk
[17:11] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, Will it keep working after rebooting?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dhcpis always in the game , the IP remains static , RichardHolland
[17:12] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : try removing xserver config file and reboot . may work.
[17:12] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, thanks for explaining. I won't forget it next time
[17:12] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, I didn't find it anywhere in all the many pages i looked up on this isue
[17:13] <domedagen> Aravindgeek: you mean like /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:13] <domedagen> Just rm?
[17:13] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : yes.
[17:14] <Aravindgeek> domedagen : backup before do.
[17:14] <megonfle167> domedagen, better use mv than rm...
[17:14] <O[_]> whatts the path to desktop
[17:14] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dhclient.htm
[17:15] <O[_]> infact where do I extract this to, its a skin for ubuntu
[17:15] <megonfle167> O[_], ~/Desktop
[17:15] <O[_]> thanks
[17:17] <BluesKaj> O[_], which is short for /home/username/Desktop
[17:17] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, OK, from her on i am gonna setup the firewall for the server first.  Suggestions on that one. I don't wanna use the GUI version. So I'll guess i am gonna use iptables
[17:17] <O[_]> how do I install this skin for ubuntu
[17:17] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, i have bookmarked the page on the dhcp. Thanks
[17:17] <O[_]> theres two folders gkt and metacity
[17:17] <O[_]> both have images, menus etc in
[17:18] <BluesKaj> RichardHolland, iptables and servers aren't my strong suit
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> RichardHolland: the #ubuntu-server guys might assist you on it for sure
[17:18] <Aravindgeek> bye. opensource rocks :)
[17:19] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, no problem. You helped a lot. Thanks for your quick reactions and good suggestions
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | BluesKaj
[17:19] <O[_]> its called LUNA EVo
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: this chat is not meant to describe every step what your doing mate
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> O[_]: please ask serious questions after you looked it up a bit, and be stuck on it
[17:21] <O[_]> theres nothing in google about how to install it
[17:21] <pepper_chico> I'm stuck with the Launcher unhide  http://askubuntu.com/q/335489/152691
[17:22] <domedagen> Aravind I'll try this thing first, which requires cleaning, which requires disassembly and if I can start it afterward Ill try that
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !eyecandy | O[_]
[17:34] <O[_]> ok I have the folder in -/themes now
[17:36] <RichardHolland> BluesKaj, Uhmmm. sorry.. but, after rebooting i have to give a manual dhclient eth0 to make it work again. Is it possible that it works right away after a boot? Do I have to make a script for it too work?
[17:37] <O[_]> how do I apply this theme
[17:37] <bazhang> O[_], this is mint?
[17:37] <O[_]> ubuntu
[17:38] <O[_]> I extracted it to -/themes
[17:38] <bazhang> O[_], which version
[17:38] <O[_]> how do I check
[17:38] <O[_]> its like the newest one
[17:38] <bazhang> !version | O[_]
[17:38] <linuxuz3r__> do you really need refit to run ubuntu in macbook pro
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> !mac | linuxuz3r__
[17:40] <O[_]> ubuntu 12.04.2 lts
[17:45] <majornick> I keep seeing this term "swap" with my RAM and HDD. what does this mean?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !swap | majornick
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> majornick, Do you use hibernate?
[17:49] <O[_]> ill ask in the forum instead
[17:51] <X-User> Hello, How to disable Ubuntu One?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> X-User, If you did not enable it is is already.
[17:52] <majornick> ok after reading the "swap" info. i want to ask a stupid question. so i have swap set up already from a Unetbootin iso usb live install clean? or do i need to set this thing up now?
[17:52] <holstein> majornick: you can set up what you need
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> X-User, user otherwise. http://askubuntu.com/questions/23183/how-do-i-disable-ubuntu-one
[17:53] <X-User> wilee-nilee, well, I clicked on the Icon from the Launcher in mistake, from then it is showing a "cloud" icon in my panel, created a folder named "Ubuntu One" and always starting when I start my computer.
[17:53] <majornick> holstein: what do i need? i got 8gb ram so should i set up a 16gb swap or is it already set up for me or should i set it up?
[17:54] <holstein> majornick: you dont need swap if you dont need it.. i usually suggest just letting the automated installer automate that if you are not comfortable
[17:54] <wolffff> hi, what should my  fstab file look like after i move my /home to a new drive. at this stage i have  only  two line in my fstab , one   /       and swap .... must i just add UUID=blablala /home ext4 to the line below the swap ?
[17:54] <majornick> holstein: ok thanks
[17:54] <daftykins> wolffff: you can, though you'll need to delete the contents of the /home on /
[17:54] <X-User> wilee-nilee, I checked that link already, but is not there they are saying to remove the ubuntu one package completely? I just want to disable it.
[17:55] <daftykins> wolffff: so you'll want to do that in a liveCD/USB
[17:55] <wolffff> everything is removed and mounted...just need to make it a permanent mount
[17:55] <HypnotiX> guys i need some serious help i cant get my pc to work again for the passed 2 days
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> X-User, I have not used it, its probably been added to startup applications, or there is a preferences in the app.
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what happened mate
[17:56] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: its a long story but i think i need to say it to understand better what happend
[17:56] <majornick> holstein: so the "swap" is for if we dont have enogh RAM?
[17:56] <holstein> !swap
[17:56] <holstein> majornick: ^
[17:57] <majornick> holstein: sorry
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> X-User, That link tells you "If all you want to do is disable the file synchronization daemon, however, you can simply disable the service in ubuntuone-preferences, from the Services tab:"
[17:57] <holstein> majornick: nah.. no worries.. just wanting to be clear
[17:57] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: so 2 days i got an update error from ubuntu saying that it needs to install a partial upgrade with some microsoft fonts crap
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> not sure if that is what works for you.
[17:57] <Guest9384> Xholy
[17:57] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:  if you can please read what im writing too
[17:57] <Guest9384> to you
[17:57] <majornick> holstein: i am reading it man but i gots me some understanding issues no worries thanks you again
[17:57] <HypnotiX> i really need to fix my pc somehow
[17:58] <Guest9384> did you understood me??
[17:58] <Guest9384> ((
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: i guided you last time to clean install ubuntu, did you not work?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I might if you stop posting stuff like this " some microsoft fonts (crap)" that sort if stuff is offensive.
[17:58] <HypnotiX> next morning when i tried to start my pc ubuntu wouldent load, not even in recovery mode so i tried to format my hdd to start fresh
[17:58] <Guest9384> how change nick to true?
[17:58] <majornick> HypnotiX: live usb?
[17:59] <Guest9384> but I have license!!
[17:59] <HypnotiX> majornick: im on live usb right now yes
[17:59] <majornick> HypnotiX: nice. can you install?
[17:59] <HypnotiX> i tried to do a full wipe with the dd command
[17:59] <X-User> wilee-nilee, where is "Services tab" ?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> X-User, Not sure I have it removed, must be a drop down in it somewhere.
[17:59] <majornick> HypnotiX: Unetbootin?
[17:59] <HypnotiX> but i was dumb enough to stop it before it finished and then my hdd basicly stopped working properly
[18:00] <Guest9384> /
[18:00] <bekks> HypnotiX: It doesnt matter when it finishes.
[18:00] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok, I am looking for it.
[18:00] <Guest9384> (((((((((((
[18:00] <bekks> HypnotiX: dd is not responsible for your drive not working correctly anymore.
[18:00] <majornick> Ubuntu is AWESOME!
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest9384, Your not making much sense.
[18:01] <HypnotiX> well right now i tested that hdd on another pc and the software from western digital and it found a lot of bad sectors
[18:01] <Guest9384> hey!!
[18:01] <bekks> HypnotiX: So replace the hdd then.
[18:01] <HypnotiX> after i did a full wipe with it writing zeroes on it
[18:01] <bekks> HypnotiX: The bad sectors were there before.
[18:01] <holstein> Guest9384: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[18:01] <Guest9384> where are clear water??
[18:01] <HypnotiX> and i did bekks i have a new hdd now that i am trying to install ubuntu on
[18:01] <daftykins> HypnotiX: oh hi again. that disk is toast
[18:01] <daftykins> ah good good
[18:01] <HypnotiX> ok ok
[18:01] <HypnotiX> but nowwwww i still cant install on this one either
[18:02] <Guest9384> I have Question to this chanell
[18:02] <bekks> HypnotiX: Why not?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what error you got now?
[18:02] <Guest9384> problem with change name!!
[18:02] <bekks> Guest9384: So whats your question?
[18:02] <X-User> !ask | Guest9384
[18:02] <HypnotiX> i dont get to the screen to chose how to install ubuntu, im sent straight to the screen with gparted from the installer and i dont see my hdd there
[18:02] <holstein> !freenode | Guest9384
[18:02] <Guest9384> I have name TrueFlow
[18:03] <Guest9384> but x-system do not allow to change name
[18:03] <HypnotiX> this is a new usb stick that i installed the 13.04 distro on like 30mins ago so that cant be the problem
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what hd brand and did you connect it well in your box?
[18:03] <holstein> Guest9384: add a new user, move data to that new user account
[18:03] <majornick> HypnotiX: unetbootin?
[18:03] <HypnotiX> western digital
[18:04] <bekks> HypnotiX: And even a new usb stick might be faulty.
[18:04] <HypnotiX> and i did, and i tried different sata slots
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you didnt forget jumpers?
[18:04] <Guest9384> so //
[18:04] <HypnotiX> i dont have any jumpers
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[18:04] <HypnotiX> sata3 :P
[18:04] <Guest9384> How to change name to real side
[18:04] <majornick> what app are you using to creat the live usb/.
[18:04] <HypnotiX> majornick: what?
[18:04] <bekks> Guest9384: Change which name and where?
[18:04] <HypnotiX> the one from windows
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: did you check bios if hd shows?
[18:04] <majornick> what "one" from windows
[18:04] <HypnotiX> yeah it shows
[18:04] <Guest9384> here
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: and ubuntu sees no hd?
[18:05] <HypnotiX> majornick: the one recommended on the ubuntu website
[18:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: just tell us the name.
[18:05] <majornick> what .exe are you using in windows to creat this usb live?
[18:05] <HypnotiX> gparted sees it but the installer does not
[18:05] <HypnotiX> i have to check
[18:05] <HypnotiX> give me a sec
[18:05] <majornick> oh lord
[18:05] <wolffff> this is gonna drive me nuts
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: on what part of the installer freezes?
[18:05] <X-User> so still unable to find how to Disable Ubuntu One completely other than removing it, anybody know?
[18:05] <bekks> Guest9384: there is no point in contacting me outside this channel.
[18:06] <childcare> ..
[18:06] <HypnotiX> it doesnt freeze i just sends me to the gparted screen and i dont see the partitions or my hdd there
[18:06] <holstein> Guest9384: can i help you find a channel in your native language?
[18:06] <majornick> HypnotiX: start over with Unetbootin okay?
[18:06] <Guest9384> ok
[18:06] <majornick> good
[18:07] <X-User> ok  I give up, Need to Uninstall Ubuntu One.
[18:07] <HypnotiX> majornick: is that for windows ?
[18:07] <majornick> HypnotiX: yes
[18:07] <HypnotiX> majornick: ok i will try
[18:07] <Guest9384> arahna big thanks!!
[18:08] <majornick> HypnotiX: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you mean the screen you choose ubuntu install on your whole hd?
[18:08] <X-User> what is better Uninstalling Ubuntu One with command line as described in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/23183/how-do-i-disable-ubuntu-one , or Uninstalling it with Ubuntu Software Centre?
[18:08] <bekks> X-User: Doesnt matter.
[18:09] <holstein> X-User: i just dont use it.. and see no need to remove it.. if you want to remove it, either should do that
[18:10] <Guest9384> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| can you understand ancient language??
[18:11] <majornick> I uninstalled Ubuntu One several times but there is no point its actually a nice thingy
[18:11] <waterlite> ya
[18:11]  * lotuspsychje doesnt trust cloud storages
[18:11] <majornick> me niether but what the hell
[18:12] <X-User> holstein, I also don't use it, but I clicked on Ubuntu One icon by mistake, and its started from then, its so annoying.
[18:12] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: yes
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  wuala encrypts client side, before uploading to the cload
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: im aware ubuntu one is safe, but i wotn use it :p
[18:13] <majornick> is there a ghp cloud?
[18:13] <majornick> *gpg
[18:13] <X-User> I know Ubuntu One is great service but I already use other cloud service, so I don't need it.
[18:13] <majornick> encrypted cloud?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> majornick  exlpore wuala.com
[18:14] <HypnotiX> someone said that on some wd hdd you cant install ubuntu, is there a list?
[18:14] <majornick> MonkeyDust: reallly>?
[18:14] <bekks> HypnotiX: Thats a lie, at all.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: tell us at wich part of install you get stuck
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: doesnt make sense bios sees hd and ubuntu not..
[18:15] <HypnotiX> ubuntu sees it
[18:15] <HypnotiX> the installer does not
[18:15] <X-User> MonkeyDust, hmm, just don't use MEGA :P
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: so after choosing updates in installer, what happens next?
[18:15] <FireAndIce> bekks, fsck did not help.
[18:15] <majornick> MonkeyDust: that wuala.com thing is so far out of my leauge just looking at the main page is scaring me :(
[18:16] <bekks> FireAndIce: so what did you do? do you have enough free space on the disk?
[18:16] <HypnotiX> i get to the partition screen and i dont see any hdd or partitions to select where to install
[18:16] <OerHeks> HypnotiX, is the size 2gb ormore?
[18:16] <OerHeks> *2 Tb
[18:16] <HypnotiX> 1tb
[18:16] <barnex> Hello, I have a bit of raid1 trouble. Both of my drives are failing and the raid device is inactive and I don't see any other way of reactivating it other than rebuilding with force. Obviously there are no backups.
[18:16] <DX099> hello all
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: dont you see install ubuntu on whole drive?
[18:17] <barnex> So I dd'd one of mirrors to the new disk, replaced the disk that was holding that mirror originally (sda)
[18:17] <barnex> and now I have sdc3 that upon examination with mdadm -E reports that it is sda3
[18:17] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: no
[18:17] <barnex> and I'm not sure what the consequeneces of rebuilding an array with it and empty sda3 will be
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you got other sata devices in your box?
[18:17] <FireAndIce> bekks, I've enough space on the disk.
[18:18] <FireAndIce> tried fsck in the rescue mode.
[18:18] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: a dvd writer
[18:18] <FireAndIce> but still the same error.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: plug the dvd out, and retry ubuntu install
[18:18] <FireAndIce> for update, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/336619/not-able-to-login-through-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: some mobo's dont like sata dvd conflicting hd
[18:18] <X-User> maybe asking again, but anybody know how to completely disable Ubuntu One?
[18:18] <HypnotiX> whats the command to check my partitions
[18:19] <DX099> I want to run cdrtools 3.0 from source but after compiling, when I install the deb, it doesn't seem to install cdrecord and such though it has been compiled (I found and used the binary). Does anyone use latest cdrecord from source ?
[18:19] <HypnotiX> lotuspsychje: i had ubuntu installed before on this setup just have another hdd no
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info cdrecord
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: it doesnt make sense ubuntu install doesnt show hd, gotta be your hardware layout
[18:21] <HypnotiX> yeah i guess so
[18:21] <sazawal> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on my desktop and installed gnome-shell 3.6. Whenever I switch to overview mode or open any menu from the top panel, my screen freezes and I am forced to do gnome-shell --replace in Ctrl+Alt+F1 command line. Please help
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> X-User, have you looked if it has been added in statrtup applications?
[18:21] <HypnotiX> fdisk -l doesnt show me anything in the terminal
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> startup*
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: what mobo brand?
[18:22] <HypnotiX> asus
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  sudo fdisk -l
[18:23] <HypnotiX> maybe this hdd cant be booted from is that possible ?
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> X-User, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[18:23] <X-User> wilee-nilee, it is not added in startup applications, I clecked it, it is really annoying now, it added Sync option in context menu, added a icon in Panel, created a folder
[18:23] <bekks> HypnotiX: Nope.
[18:23] <X-User> wilee-nilee, *checked
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  and sudo blkid
[18:23] <HypnotiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022335/ my partitions right now
[18:24] <bekks> HypnotiX: Is the disk connected correctly? Does it show up in the BIOS?
[18:24] <HypnotiX> yes bekks i have created partitions on it just now
[18:25] <bekks> HypnotiX: you said you have 2TB disk. Your paste does not show one.
[18:25] <HypnotiX> i said 1tb
[18:25] <bekks> ah ok.
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: so you Can see the drive now?
[18:26] <HypnotiX> well i started a smartest i might wait for it to finish before i restart :))
[18:26] <HypnotiX> 191 min <.<
[18:26] <O[_]> what UI's for ubuntu use GTK2
[18:26] <bekks> O[_]: Hopefully none anymore.
[18:26] <HypnotiX> meh ill do that later ill restart now
[18:26] <O[_]> like main/most common
[18:26] <bazhang> O[_], its gnome3 now
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: you gonna clean install?
[18:27] <HypnotiX> yes lotuspsychje
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> HypnotiX: good luck!
[18:27] <HypnotiX> brb
[18:27] <O[_]> well I cant find any themes in gnome look.com for gtk3
[18:27] <bazhang> O[_], perhaps you are thinking of MINT
[18:28] <amandasue> I've got this HP device manager program that I'd like to get rid of -- I don't see it in the software center though (it's not hp-toolbox) so I'm not sure how to get rid of it.  Actually, I'm not sure how it ended up on my copmputer in the first place.
[18:28] <O[_]> well I installed ubuntu as im new
[18:28] <O[_]> but Id like a windows classic theme or windows luna
[18:28] <bazhang> O[_], check for unity / gnome-shell themes
[18:29] <O[_]> where abouts
[18:29] <O[_]> gnome-look.com?
[18:29] <bazhang> O[_], where you were looking
[18:29] <O[_]> cant see to see any on there
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> amandasue: hplip tools?
[18:29] <O[_]> I did a search in all categories
[18:30] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok removed it from startup applications, any way to remove it from panel?
[18:30] <amandasue> lotuspsychje, nope, I guess it is hp-toolbox.  If I start it up and ps -ef | grep hp that's what pops up.  Python script it seems
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> X-User, The left panel, it is a right click.
[18:31] <Shtl> Hello while installing lm-sensors, it asks through apt-get it says "You will have to enable the component called 'universe'", how can i do this?
[18:31] <X-User> wilee-nilee, panel=top panel
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> X-User, this the fallback desktop?
[18:32] <X-User> wilee-nilee, nope
[18:32] <X-User> wilee-nilee, unity
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> X-User, logout and back in and it should be gone if unity I would think.
[18:33] <O[_]> how about if I just use gtk2
[18:33] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok, let me try.
[18:33] <O[_]> or will nothing be compatable then
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> Shtl, ubuntu software center-edit softwrae sources
[18:33] <O[_]> I dont like unity anhow
[18:33] <thirty3percent> can anyone help me out? Trying to install playonlinux on ubu 13 and I get this error
[18:33] <thirty3percent> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:33] <thirty3percent>  playonlinux : Depends: wine or
[18:33] <thirty3percent>                         wine-unstable but it is not installable
[18:33] <thirty3percent> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:33] <FloodBot1> thirty3percent: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <bekks> O[_]: gtk2 is window framework - unity is a desktop environment.
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, YOU using a PPA?
[18:34] <O[_]> so I can use gtk2 in unity?
[18:34] <thirty3percent> I dont even know. I'm a linux noob. I think so
[18:34] <thirty3percent> whats ppa
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  here's what you do if you don't like unity: install something else, logout, switch, login
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | thirty3percent
[18:34] <bekks> O[_]: Why do you want to use gtk2?
[18:35] <thirty3percent> yeah I am
[18:35] <O[_]> im trying to install this theme!
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, You have any links that have helped you in this endeavor?
[18:35] <O[_]> but it uses gtk2
[18:35] <thirty3percent> none. I searched around in google but none of the solutions I tried worked. Im getting ready just to reinstall ubuntu, but I really dont want to do that
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  there are plenty other themes available
[18:36] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok it worked, thanks.
[18:36] <thirty3percent> i think it has something to do with 32 and 64 bit packages, or something. When I try to install wine I get the same message but with other dependencies
[18:37] <thirty3percent> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:37] <thirty3percent>  wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu5)
[18:37] <thirty3percent> thats when I do sudo wine1.4
[18:37] <bekks> O[_]: You should install a theme matching the framework your desktop environment actually uses. It is pretty pointless to install a gtk2 theme when using gnome3.
[18:37] <thirty3percent> apt get install wine1.4
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, Not really needed in general, however if we can get to what you have installed we can probably get it cleaned up. Lets start with just running these commands and paste-binning all the text. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> thirty3percent  better ask in #winehq
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, Don't hit yes to install if asked I just want the text kicked out.
[18:38] <thirty3percent> ok
[18:38] <nl287> thirty3percent: apt-get install -f
[18:39] <O[_]> ok but idk if ill like that theme
[18:39] <O[_]> theres like LOADS
[18:39] <O[_]> I want something as close to windows as possible
[18:39] <bazhang> O[_], are you on MATE?
[18:39] <O[_]> ?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, the wine channel is helpful for sure, but I'm curios on the broken package notation.
[18:39] <X-User> well now how to disable showing Hidden applications in startup applications?
[18:39] <bazhang> O[_], thats from MINT, otherwise use gtk3
[18:40] <O[_]> i know im being very specific but at least I know I can use it fine
[18:40] <O[_]> im using gtk3
[18:40] <thirty3percent> heres the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022399/
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> X-User, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[18:40] <bekks> O[_]: If you like that theme - then change your desktop environment to something where you can install that theme.
[18:40] <bekks> O[_]: Otherwise, it is pointless.
[18:40] <O[_]> I dont like having just icons to represent programs
[18:40] <O[_]> bekks?
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> O[_], Just so you are aware some of those convert to a windows look are a one way street and problematic, be careful.
[18:41] <DX099> I want to run cdrtools 3.0 from source but after compiling, when I install the deb, it doesn't seem to install cdrecord and such though it has been compiled (I found and used the binary). Does anyone use latest cdrecord from source ?
[18:41] <O[_]> but dont these desktop enfivoments typically use gtk3
[18:41] <spacebarbarian> is it normal for compiz to be constantly sitting at 50+% cpu ... ?
[18:41] <O[_]> envirmnents*
[18:41] <spacebarbarian> this is on a fresh install
[18:41] <bekks> O[_]: and you cant use gtk2 themes on gtk3.
[18:42] <X-User> wilee-nilee, that link is only showing how to enable it, nothing on disabling it
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> O[_], I'm noticing your in general asking for sweeping generalizations, that is a problem.
[18:42] <O[_]> I cant find anything thats compatable with gtk3
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> X-User, Ah disabling, why?
[18:42] <thirty3percent> wilee did you get a chance to look at my paste bin? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022399/
[18:42] <O[_]> well unless I just try loads of uis
[18:43] <X-User> wilee-nilee, as it was disabled previously
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> O[_]  find GTK 3.x in the left column http://gnome-look.org/
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> X-User, sure, not sure I believe the code has a disable portion, look close at the link it may tell you. it is not a danger to have it show.
[18:45] <ljetibo> what does it mean when whereis scipy returns scipy:
[18:45] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, always use nicks, I just happened to see you posted that text. You have added the cinnamon ppa it is in the repos in 13.04. you can remove ppa's with ppapurge. You want to avoid PPA's in general, always make sure you look in the repos first or just ask here.
[18:47] <thirty3percent> wilee ok. I actually dont even care about cinnamon. I grew to like unity. Would removing the ppa and cinnamon all together possibly fix my problem?
[18:48] <jrib> ljetibo: give full input and full output in a pastebin
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> X-User, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[18:49] <Kalel> Greetings.
[18:50] <HypnotiX> i am back
[18:51] <ljetibo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022428/ here you go
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, you have a failed to fetch on the cinnamon that is problematic, that is one problem, what is casuing the original we have still not confrimed a ppa there and what you have or have not done leading to it.
[18:51] <HypnotiX> still doesnt work
[18:51] <bazhang> !info cinnamon
[18:51] <jrib> ljetibo: what ubuntu version is this?
[18:51] <Kalel> I have a HP Pavilion DV6 laptop, it has 4 speakers. When i select 'analogic' rears works. When I select 'speakers' the front works.. Could I link all speaker to work together?
[18:52] <ljetibo> jrib: i.e. whereis python returns python: and a full list of addresses mentioning python. Python version is 2.6.6 (from python -V) and Ubuntu is 12.04.
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> X-User, run this command and pastebin it, it will show both repos sources.list and sources.list.d
[18:52] <HypnotiX> so the ubuntu installer still doesnt see my hdd
[18:52] <thirty3percent> wilee what about the error on the main_amd64 and main_i386 packages
[18:52] <HypnotiX> http://imagebin.org/268639
[18:52] <X-User> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> X-User, sorry wrong user.
[18:53] <jrib> ljetibo: what is the output of « type python »?
[18:53] <X-User> wilee-nilee, i got that.
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent,  run this command and pastebin it, it will show both repos sources.list and sources.list.d
[18:53] <ljetibo> jrib: python is hashed (/usr/local/bin/python)
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[18:53] <jrib> ljetibo: does this shed some light?
[18:54] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: can you help me m8 please im lost here
[18:54] <ljetibo> jrib: it probably would in the case I was "native" to ubuntu. But I only picked it up about 3-4 motnhs ago
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, lets keep the horse in front of the cart, there is a process.
[18:54] <jrib> ljetibo: you have a copy of python you built yourself (outside the repositories) in /usr/local
[18:55] <HypnotiX> new hdd gparted created the partitions with no problems, but the ubuntu installer doesnt see my hdd
[18:55] <thirty3percent> wilee-nilee, here is the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022432/
[18:55] <ljetibo> jrib: yes Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't support older then python2.7 whereas some of the modules I need to use don't really work well past 2.6
[18:55] <ese> Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, but i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v output: http://sprunge.us/SNFN  ...the problem is flash videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc does not play, i only see one frame and one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and then freeze, i have to killall or pkill the process, i manege to have my wireless working, but if i try to play a sound or a mp3 file th
[18:55] <ese> en the same thing happends, , my OS is updated, can someone help me? thank you.
[18:55] <ljetibo> jrib: so it was sort of necessary to build my own
[18:55] <jrib> ljetibo: why aren't you using the python that's on ubuntu?
[18:56] <HypnotiX> sigh
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  what does     sudo blkid    show?
[18:57] <jrib> ljetibo: i.e. what modules exactly?
[18:57] <ljetibo> jrib: I just "upgraded" from Ubuntu 10.4 today and I need to use "home made" libraries like sdsspy, fitsio.... and some of them don't work on python > 2.6
[18:57] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then the installer cd does not support your mobo hdd controller.
[18:57] <jrib> ljetibo: that's weird.  I believe code that ran on 2.6 should also run on 2.7, no?
[18:57] <ljetibo> jrib: when I started writing my program on win (3 or 4 months ago) I discovered they do not
[18:57] <HypnotiX> bekks: it did before
[18:58] <HypnotiX> MonkeyDust: it shows my partitions
[18:58] <ljetibo> jrib: then through various other outside contraints I was "forced" to go ubuntu, I used Virtualbox
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: With the very same installer?
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: Or with an older version?
[18:58] <ljetibo> jrib: old 10.4 version, and it's default is 2.6.6
[18:58] <HypnotiX> bekks: same one
[18:58] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then what did you change? :)
[18:58] <HypnotiX> bekks: the hdd
[18:58] <jrib> ljetibo: i would fix your programs.  I'm almost 100% certain that python2 versions are backwards compatible
[18:59] <jrib> ljetibo: if they're failing because of some change in a third party library, then I would suggest fixing the code.  If you want to go against my advice, then setup virtualenv and install everything in a 2.6 virtualenv
[18:59] <ljetibo> jrib: I can try it certanly. sudo apt-get python should install the 2.7 version? Also how do I remove the 2.6.6 then?
[18:59] <HypnotiX> http://imagebin.org/268640 look
[18:59] <ljetibo> certainly*
[19:00] <HypnotiX> this is the blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/6022451/
[19:01] <jrib> ljetibo: you now have both versions.  Your system will, by default, prefer the version in /usr/local when you simply call "python".  If you want to, you can remove the version you installed.  You'll have to read python documentation for that.  Sometimes you can "make uninstall" (in the same directory where you ran "make install".  Otherwise, you have to delete the files that got installed to /usr/local
[19:01] <jrib> manually
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, So you have a number of ppa, the wine which is probably the conflict with playonlinux, both wine and playonlinux are in the repos, no ppa's needed and not supported here. the cinnamon one is a no fetch. I would use ppa purge to remove both and purge wine and playonlinux remove all the configs and files of these two a try a reinstall. The ubuntu twaek app is a nice config remover in it
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> s janitor portion, and you can search home with the names to get all the files. Cinnamon may or maybe be complety removed with the ppapurge, if not it can just be removed forom the terminal if you want it gone.
[19:01] <HypnotiX> btw if i click on the plus in the installer it just crashes
[19:02] <thirty3percent> wilee-nilee, ok thank you for your help.
[19:02] <ljetibo> jrib: how come then import numpy and import scipy fails if the call python evokes python 2.7?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> thirty3percent, I hope that makes sense, ask any questions if needed. ;)
[19:02] <ljetibo> jrib: I've included that in the pasta
[19:02] <jrib> ljetibo: calling "python" at the moment obviously does not invoke python 2.7.  It calls python2.6 which you installed to /usr/local.  Try "/usr/bin/python" and then import numpy there.
[19:03] <HypnotiX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469 this is the bug report i got after the installer crashed
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: So it has absolutely nothing to do with your hdd.
[19:05] <troyrock> I am looking for information on current projects available in ubuntu 12.10 that do parental control type things: limit available login times and web locations that are accessible.
[19:05] <HypnotiX> bekks: but whats the problem then
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: "/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[19:05] <O[_]> ok im trying mint now
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: Did you even read the bug report?
[19:05] <bekks> O[_]: Good luck.
[19:05] <HypnotiX> this is a live cd
[19:05] <HypnotiX> usb even
[19:06] <bekks> HypnotiX: and it has a browser ;)
[19:06] <O[_]> bbl
[19:06] <HypnotiX> bekks:  i tried the installer without running ubuntu
[19:06] <HypnotiX> same problem then
[19:06] <ese> Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v: http://sprunge.us/SNFN  ...the problem videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc doesnt play, i only see one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and freezes, i have to killall, pkill the process, i manage to have my wireless working, but if i try to play mp3,.ogg with same results , my OS is updated, can someone help me
[19:06] <ese> ? thank you.
[19:06] <bekks> HypnotiX: Because the installer isnt the problem.
[19:07] <ljetibo> jrib: yes that seems to work jsut fine. Thank you.
[19:07] <HypnotiX> bekks: then what is :)
[19:08] <ljetibo> jrib: will there be no clashing between two different version?
[19:08] <bekks> HypnotiX: You gave us the URL explaining whats the problem.
[19:08] <chamunks> Hey Something seems to have deleted /proc/net/tcp
[19:08] <jrib> ljetibo: it should be ok, but I would advise letting "python" point to the default version and having only "python2.6" point to 2.6
[19:08] <chamunks> how do get that back.
[19:09] <ljetibo> jrib: is that something that's done in .bashrc?
[19:09] <jrib> ljetibo: ideally though, you would just fix your code so that it works on 2.7.  This is almost certainly do to some change in a third party library you use
[19:09] <jrib> ljetibo: does "python2.6" currently work?
[19:09] <jrib> s/do/due
[19:10] <OEP> I can't seem to login to tty[1-6] (no login prompt), is there some fix for this?
[19:10] <ljetibo> yes, but the default for python is python2.6, only by using python2.7 I get python2.7
[19:10] <jrib> ljetibo: just delete /usr/local/bin/python then
[19:11] <HypnotiX> bekks: this makes no sense how can the installer and the hardware not be the problems ?
[19:11] <HypnotiX> one or the other is the problem
[19:11] <bekks> HypnotiX: Read the link you gave us.
[19:11] <HypnotiX> i am
[19:11] <ljetibo> jrib: just manually brutal delete? no need to make sure all dependencies are hooked off or whatever...
[19:11] <jrib> ljetibo: correct
[19:12] <HypnotiX> if i just boot the live cd hit install and it doesnt work then ......
[19:12] <bekks> HypnotiX: a lock for the package management software is the problem. And the installer is just using this software.
[19:12] <ljetibo> jrib: sometimes ubuntu has it right :D
[19:12] <ese> sorry WRONG PASTE, THIS IS THE ONE, Hi!, i own a lenovo z585 and manage after painfully tries install Ubuntu Precise in 32 bits, i have a few problems, this is my lspci -v: http://sprunge.us/JEWJ  ...the problem videos like youtube or vlc in .avi or .mov etc doesnt play, i only see one frame only in firefox, chrome or vlc and freezes, i have to killall, pkill the process, i manage to have my wireless working, but if i try to play mp3,.ogg with same results , m
[19:12] <ese> y OS is updated, can someone help me? thank you.
[19:12] <FloodBot1> ese: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <jrib> ljetibo: apt should never touch /usr/local/ ; that's your domain to handle
[19:12] <ese> hmm
[19:12] <HypnotiX> bekks:  i tried the commands listed there and nothing
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> ese, did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:12] <ese> yes
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> use nicks ese
[19:13] <HypnotiX> now i cant even run the installer
[19:13] <bekks> HypnotiX: You can still install ubuntu using another cd, and manually create a chroot, etc.
[19:13] <HypnotiX> im not skilled enough to do that :)
[19:14] <ese> wilee-nilee,  ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version
[19:14] <ljetibo> jrib: are you sure I need to delete usr/local/bin/python? Also all the outher libraries are installed in usr/local/lib/pythonX.X/dist-packages
[19:14] <cstewart> HypnotiX maybe try the alternate version but i believe that stopped on 12.04 LTS
[19:14] <ljetibo> jrib: what do you mean apt should never go in usr/local?
[19:14] <jrib> ljetibo: you can ignore the apt command
[19:14] <jrib> ljetibo: you can ignore the apt comment
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> ese, .avi and.mov are containers for types of media some do not play.
[19:15] <HypnotiX> cstewart: i installed 13.04 or 3 different systems so far including this one with no problems using that installer, i just changed the hdd on this one and i cant install on it
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> like quicktime...etc
[19:15] <jrib> ljetibo: yes, I am sure that you can just delete /usr/local/bin/python to make "python" call /usr/bin/python (2.7) instead of /usr/local/bin/python (2.6) as it does now
[19:15] <ese> wilee-nilee,  but  .mp3 or any sound file does not play either
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> ese, Downloads?
[19:16] <cstewart> Hypnotix can you boot the live cd and see the new hdd
[19:16] <ese> wilee-nilee,  no, in my firefox or in my usb thumbdrive (i got some files there)
[19:16] <HypnotiX> no i cant see it
[19:17] <HypnotiX> gparted see it after i try ubuntu but not from the installer
[19:17] <M1cha> Hi is it possible to change the screen resolution if a application goes to fullscreen? If not globally maybe just for VLC player via some plugin/scripting API ?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> ese, Did you install any media codecs to files rather than just apt-getting them and using them, or flash this way, and tar downloads of these?
[19:17] <HypnotiX> cstewart: http://imagebin.org/268640
[19:17] <cstewart> Hypnotix very interesting is this a ssd
[19:17] <HypnotiX> nop
[19:18] <X-User> hello, i ran this command "/bin/sh -c '[ -d "$HOME/Ubuntu One" ] && ubuntuone-launch'" what will this do?
[19:18] <l01> X-User: if your home contains a directory "Ubuntu One", it runs the command ubuntuone-launch
[19:19] <bekks> X-User: It starts ubuntuone.
[19:20] <X-User> well, my home do not contain any Ubuntu One folder (i deleted it) and also do not run Ubuntu One.
[19:20] <ese> wilee-nilee,  no i haven done that, i tried ubuntu 64 but it just can not boot from any .iso, i tried debian 7.0 no boot, ...i manage to install this ubuntu precise 12.04 32 here and after lots of fighting i got the wireless working, this is a lenovo z585 laptop and i google a lot but there is lots of problems in installing this lap i read, soo far i got it in my hard drive but with no sound or video playback.
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: You should close gparted entirely before running the installer.
[19:20] <HypnotiX> i did
[19:20] <HypnotiX> brb ill restart and try one more time and ill remove the dvd writer
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: Your paste shows something different then ;)
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: Why?
[19:20] <Slart> M1cha: I haven't seen anything that does this but have a look at devilspie, it's an app that works with windows, sizes and such.. perhaps you can make it check if a window is maximized and then run some terminal command to change resolution
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> ese, NO sound at all anywhere?
[19:20] <bekks> HypnotiX: The dvd writer is no problem.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> i removed the partitions
[19:21] <HypnotiX> see if that helps i donno
[19:21] <bekks> HypnotiX: stop guessing.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> well thats all i can do right now :)
[19:21] <Slart> M1cha: It might be easier to just make a shortcut to vlc that both changes resolution and starts vlc though.. if it's just for that one application
[19:21] <ese> wilee-nilee, yes no sound at all, and in video i only get 2 settings, am fine with that dho
[19:21] <bekks> HypnotiX: You paste a) does show that you did not remove anything and b) that you are running gparted and the installer in parallel.
[19:21] <HypnotiX> no pc for 2 days just trying to get it working has left me guessing
[19:21] <HypnotiX> thats an old paste
[19:22] <bekks> HypnotiX: Then why do you show it to us?
[19:22] <HypnotiX> i showed it for cstewart
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> ese, Cool we see that on occasion, not an area I can really help in that is the first issue I would be mentioning.
[19:22] <HypnotiX> to understand the problem
[19:23] <M1cha> Slart: Thx for the tip I'll take a look at devilspie or maybe compiz would work, too. The shortcut option wouldn't be good in case I want  to use VLC just to hear some music
[19:23] <HypnotiX> i cant even open the installer now thats why i want to reboot
[19:23] <cstewart> thats very interesting, i'm not sure what else to suggest let me ponder it for minute
[19:23] <ese> wilee-nilee,  i think is the drivers
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> keep it simple to some extent and start at the beginning basically ese
[19:23] <ese> wilee-nilee,  yeah, i like to have sound ...first xD
[19:24] <HypnotiX> so it goes like this i reboot run the installer from the live cd and i see that screen without my hdd or the partitions in the installer
[19:24] <Slart> M1cha: so, use the regular shortcut for vlc for when you just want the regular vlc and the modified shortcut for the "change res and then run vlc" script
[19:24] <cstewart> other then nuke the partition table and create a new one
[19:27] <cstewart> hypnotix it should reconize the partition table but maybe if you wipe it then try and install that will correct the issue. sometimes extended lvm have issue at least i have ran into that when trying to install on an existing HD or maybe barts boot and nuke
[19:28] <HypnotiX> ok i removed all the partitions with gparted
[19:28] <HypnotiX> ill reboot and try again
[19:29] <Falcon82> how do i defrag?
[19:31] <stomanata> Hi, can somebody help me fixind nvidia driver problems
[19:31] <stomanata> here is 1 simple pic that show some of problems http://i43.tinypic.com/316nogg.png
[19:31] <hid> Falcon82: no need to defrag linux fs
[19:31] <growna>  hello, i am trying to understand the "Take ownership of filesystem" option in gparted before formatting/partitioning a drive, but I failed googling. Can someone explain to me if I need this or not, or what it does? Please...
[19:32] <stomanata> other problem is when i scrolling in facebook all aroud browser go out :(
[19:32] <cstewart> Hypnotix windows wasn't previously installed on the hd was it
[19:32] <RileyGuy> Can someone help me? im having problems with a java game yet i have java installed
[19:32] <RileyGuy> think anyone could help? :)
[19:33] <Muelli> !anyone || RileyGuy
[19:33] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:33] <cstewart> RileyGuy apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[19:33] <holstein> !java
[19:34] <RileyGuy> I am having trouble with minecraft not working, it starts up to the title but then freezes when i load a world, ubuntu 13.04
[19:34] <sealbhach> RileyGuy: dude we're not psychic, say what problem is
[19:34] <RileyGuy> java 7 installed and everything
[19:34] <holstein> RileyGuy: you might want to ask minecraft for support there.. i would try soemthing to test java.. you are assuming its a java/ubuntu issue.. could be that another version of minecraft would work fine, or that they are not supporting 13.04
[19:35] <RileyGuy> ive seen other people play it on 13.04
[19:35] <Slart> RileyGuy: is it the same with all worlds or just the one?
[19:35] <holstein> RileyGuy: i have ran it on 13.04, but that doesnt help you right now
[19:35] <RileyGuy> might be a lwjgl issue
[19:35] <cstewart> games are outside set of tools
[19:35] <bekks> RileyGuy: You dont need Java 7 for running it.
[19:35] <RileyGuy> all
[19:36] <RileyGuy> java 6?
[19:36] <Muelli> RileyGuy: how do you it freezes?
[19:36] <bekks> RileyGuy: Java 6.
[19:37] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:37] <Slart> RileyGuy: no errors or such if you start minecraft from a terminal?
[19:37] <RileyGuy> it starts up fine and dandy sounds and everything but when i load a world it freezes to a dirt backround
[19:37] <RileyGuy> no errors in the console or anything
[19:37] <sealbhach> Is your graphics card able to run it?
[19:38] <bekks> RileyGuy: Try using Java 6 and check your graphics drivers.
[19:38] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:38] <RileyGuy> my ubuntu already supports the one i have
[19:39] <bekks> RileyGuy: That doesnt matter when the game does not support them.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> ._.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> idk
[19:39] <RileyGuy> ive never really had luck with java 7
[19:39] <bekks> RileyGuy: Then try using Java 6 now.
[19:39] <RileyGuy> so maybe 6 will help like said
[19:40] <RileyGuy> mk
[19:40] <RileyGuy> installing it now
[19:40] <RileyGuy> one more problem tho
[19:40] <RileyGuy> my ubuntu hates it when i install things directly from the software center
[19:40] <RileyGuy> so i gotta use terminal
[19:41] <bekks> RileyGuy: Then use the terminal.
[19:41] <XLV> i got an somewhat older system used as a server.. athlon x2 3800, on an asus a8n sli nf4 mb, using a pci sis6326 8MB vga.. i cant get any latest live usb to run.. i have tried ubuntu and debian live .. it stops with a message about out of sync mode used on the monitor.. i have tried to insert the nomodeset option, there isnt the option available in live usb booting, as per the docs.. i am downloading 12.04 lts now
[19:41] <RileyGuy> ok
[19:41] <ljetibo> jrib: thanks again, everything seems to be in order, much obiged
[19:41] <ljetibo> obliged*
[19:41] <holstein> RileyGuy: you might "hate" i, but i assure you, your ubuntu has not preference
[19:41] <bekks> XLV: Throw that SIS graphics crap away.
[19:41] <RileyGuy> i know xD
[19:41] <holstein> yeah.. i have sis, and i just bypassed it.. never could get it working
[19:41] <XLV> bekks, for a server, its more than sufficient..
[19:42] <bekks> XLV: It causes your current problems.
[19:42] <XLV> bekks, also.. that attitude is more apporopriate for windows lusers channels
[19:42] <holstein> XLV: there is no "live" ubuntu server
[19:42] <bekks> XLV: You never dealt with SIS hardware on Linux then.
[19:42] <sazawal> Where do I get a graphics driver for, Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[19:42] <XLV> holstein, ... i am trying to load a live usb to troubleshoot a grub problem after a failing hdd
[19:42] <holstein> sazawal: shouldnt need one
[19:42] <RileyGuy> nope still freezing
[19:42] <holstein> XLV: good luck.. i would avoid it
[19:42] <sealbhach> XLV: Try nosplash option
[19:43] <bekks> sazawal: sudo apt-get install xf86-video-intel
[19:43] <holstein> XLV: you can try "nomodeset" and forcing vesa..
[19:43] <XLV> bekks, i have been running that system with that sis card for years ( in older systems too ).. you really dont know wtf you are talking about.. pls reply only if you have some valid contribution
[19:44] <XLV> holstein, sealbhach the nosplash and the nomodeset were added in the boot kernel parameters
[19:44] <XLV> same thing
[19:44] <bekks> XLV: Watch your language. And I cant help you if you dont like the answers - it was you who asked.
[19:44] <RileyGuy> can i paste my log?
[19:44] <sazawal> bekks, unable to locate package :(
[19:45] <XLV> bekks, my language is fine.. its the content you dont like.. i have no problem with your answers, just stating its irrelevant and unhelpful, and i ask you to stop trying to "help" me, you seem to not having the experties and you pollute the troubleshooting discussion
[19:45] <holstein> XLV: it many not work.. didnt work for me
[19:45] <bekks> sazawal: Most likely, it is installed already, although it has another name.
[19:45] <bekks> XLV: ignore set.
[19:45] <XLV> bekks, great.. thank you
[19:45] <holstein> XLV: i have never had any luck with sis graphics..
[19:46] <sazawal> bekks, let me find it on google.
[19:46] <sealbhach> XLV: If you just want to fix grub, install a no desktop edition, server edition or whatever or get a boot recovery type distro
[19:46] <XLV> holstein, i really have been using this card for years now.. using it so the pcie ports can be used for storage and/or nic
[19:46] <holstein> XLV: these are ubuntu based, and run "live".. http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ might help
[19:46] <XLV> sealbhach, yeah, i'll try 12.04 lts and alternative version
[19:47] <holstein> XLV: im not debating a server cant utilize the hardware.. im saying, if you are having issues running x on there, so was i
[19:47] <bazhang> !alternate | XLV
[19:47] <sazawal> bekks, yes it is installed. Though I have a problem with the gnome-shell 3.6. I thought may be it is due to the driver. Anyways thanks
[19:48] <gibbs> Do source packages (from apt-get source) upgrade?
[19:48] <Slart> gibbs: afaik they do
[19:48] <bekks> gibbs: No, they dont.
[19:48] <Slart> gibbs: I must admit I haven't really checked if they do but it would be pretty odd if they didn't
[19:48] <XLV> bazhang, i have no problem using an older live cd with alternative offered.. i just want to get to a shell with all commands available to chroot and fix grub
[19:49] <bekks> gibbs: They are "installed" in the current directory, and the package management system does not track them.
[19:49] <holstein> XLV: the alternate's were not live
[19:49] <XLV> holstein, the server ran xorg fine before the hdd and grub bork
[19:49] <gibbs> bekks: how would I upgrade (then recompile)?
[19:50] <bekks> gibbs: run apt-get source again, and recompile.
[19:50] <Slart> gibbs: "upgrade" as in that there will new versions of the source packages when there is a new version of the package.. they won't upgrade the source you have downloaded.. you'll have to remove the source and download again
[19:50] <XLV> holstein, ok.. does anyone remember what was first ubuntu that offered grub2 by default?
[19:50] <holstein> XLV: alternate cd's dont boot live..
[19:50] <holstein> XLV: the turnkey linux appliances do.. though they are not officially supported here
[19:50] <gibbs> thanks. Is there a way to check what the latest source version is?
[19:50] <RichardHolland> i need to use the commando dhclient eth0 to set the static address. But what if i wanna make it persistent? So that with a reboot i still have a working static IP adres on interface eth0?
[19:51] <bekks> gibbs: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:51] <DJones> XLV: I think grub 2 became default from 9.10
[19:51] <XLV> DJones, thanks
[19:51] <Slart> RichardHolland: /etc/interfaces
[19:51] <bekks> RichardHolland: DHCP does not set static addresses.
[19:51] <RichardHolland> Slart, that is configured correctly
[19:51] <gibbs> excellent. thanks bekks and Slart
[19:51] <nl287> Slart: /etc/network/interfaces
[19:52] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know, that is done in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:52] <Slart> RichardHolland: I mean, you'll have to edit that file yourself with the information you want.. I don't think dhclient will do it for you
[19:52] <bekks> RichardHolland: dhclient does not change /etc/network/interfaces, you have to do it yourself.
[19:52] <nl287> RichardHolland: but i think if u edit interfaces u need diable network menager in gnome
[19:52] <RichardHolland> Slart, the static address only worked after using the command dhclient eth0
[19:52] <bekks> RichardHolland: And with doing so, you dont need dhclient anymore to get an ip address.
[19:52] <sazawal> SNA 2D Graphics Acceleration is causing troubles in gnome-shell 3.6. Please help!
[19:52] <growna> have a nice week everybody
[19:53] <M1cha> Ok I finally added a hotkey with compiz config manager to switch between my scaled and native resolution
[19:53] <bekks> RichardHolland: dhclient sets a dynamic address, no static one.
[19:53] <RichardHolland> nl287, how do i disable the network manager?
[19:53] <Slart> RichardHolland, nl287: as nl287 mentioned.. it's in /etc/network/interfaces , my bad
[19:53] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know.. .but it was the solution
[19:53] <bekks> RichardHolland: It cant be the solution, since those two things are contrary.
[19:53] <nl287> RichardHolland: maybe there is option disable in menu
[19:53] <Slart> RichardHolland: hmm.. might be something else that dhclient does ... or it might be a server setting if you have a paranoid dhcp-server/firewall
[19:54] <bekks> RichardHolland: You can set a static IP in the network manager as well.
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, i know... it was strange but true
[19:54] <subcool> what happen between 12.04 and 13? - i copied my fstab to mount my network shares, and now im getting erros
[19:54] <bekks> subcool: which errors?
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, it confusing that you can set the ip address in so many places in ubuntu.
[19:54] <O[_]> downloading linux -- SLOW SLOW SLOW
[19:54] <subcool> bekks wrong fs type
[19:54] <RichardHolland> bekks, and the don't seem to work together.
[19:55] <bekks> RichardHolland: thats just depending on what you want to achieve using which approach.
[19:55] <bekks> subcool: then you are using an fstype thats not installed/supported
[19:55] <RichardHolland> bekks, the old way, not gui. So I can manage, and not the machine
[19:55] <subcool> bekks mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/VirtualMachines,
[19:55] <nl287> network menager working very well bu excludes with editing interfaces
[19:55] <bekks> subcool: Whats the fstab line?
[19:56] <bekks> RichardHolland: network manager works flawlessly here.
[19:56] <RichardHolland> nl287, the network manager is through the desktop?
[19:56] <subcool> bekks <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/Media                  /mnt/Media              nfs             auto    0       0
[19:56] <bekks> RichardHolland: there is a cli tool: nm-cli
[19:56] <nl287> RichardHolland: yes, this is service i think
[19:56] <bekks> subcool: that will not work. ;)
[19:56] <subcool> bekks works on my other two macines
[19:56] <bekks> subcool: your box is trying to mount before the network is up. Add the "_netdev" option.
[19:57] <RichardHolland> bekks, nm-cli?
[19:57] <subcool> bekks im doing that command with mount -a
[19:57] <bekks> RichardHolland: Thats what I said, yes.
[19:57] <subcool> bekks while the box is on
[19:57] <bekks> subcool: "auto" implies: "whenever the box boots up, run it".
[19:57] <RichardHolland> bekks, how do i install it, or start it
[19:58] <subcool> bekks so change auto to _netdev?
[19:58] <bekks> subcool: And if you dont have the nfs utilities installed, it wont work either.
[19:58] <bekks> subcool: No, "add" means: let it look like this: auto,_netdev
[19:58] <nl287> RichardHolland: i was using manual editing networking and network menager, but if i want warking /etc/network/interfaces i need to disable network menager in menu on panel
[19:58] <subcool> bekks oh ok.. thanks
[19:59] <RichardHolland> nl287, i think i uninstalled the whole network manager. I won't find it anymore in the desktop
[19:59] <nl287> RichardHolland: u dont need uninstall. disable is enough
[20:00] <RichardHolland> nl287, well it's done anyway
[20:00] <RichardHolland> bekks, how do i install it, or start. The program you suggested
[20:01] <subcool> bekks mount: unknown filesystem type '_netdev'
[20:01] <RichardHolland> nl287, Goedenavond trouwens.
[20:02] <bekks> subcool: Then your fstab entry is wrong.
[20:02] <kabamaro> Hello
[20:02] <kabamaro> can i ask something?
[20:03] <kabamaro> somebody installed something called "Sniffer" on my ubuntu server
[20:03] <kabamaro> they can access root through port 22 without me knowing
[20:03] <kabamaro> even when i access my server
[20:03] <kabamaro> root@testnode1:~# w
[20:03] <kabamaro>  20:01:24 up 9 days,  3:55,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[20:03] <kabamaro> it shows 0 users
[20:03] <subcool> bekks the only thing was the Ip addy
[20:04] <bekks> RichardHolland: The package is named "network-manager"
[20:04] <bekks> subcool: What does that mean?
[20:04] <subcool> bekks my router is being a d'bag about assigning ips
[20:04] <bekks> kabamaro: How do you know that?
[20:04] <ironfoot495> Hello is there sdomeone who is familiar with restoreing SOAP and mysql back in phpinfo()?
[20:05] <subcool> it keeps chaning the IP address of my machines, so- i have a hard time keeping the ip address to the proper machine. and i cant assing ip's through the router-
[20:05] <RichardHolland> bekks, they told me the network-manager conflicts with /etc/network/interfaces
[20:05] <subcool> bekks, point bieng i adjusted the IP to the proper ip and the error still occurs
[20:05] <bekks> RichardHolland: Which is true. Either use network-manager or manage that file on your own.
[20:05] <rtr-> kabamaro so why do you think there is currently  someone on your system?
[20:05] <ironfoot495> I upgraded php to 5.5.3 and there is no trace of mysq,mysqli and SOAP
[20:05] <bekks> subcool: Then your entry is still wrong.
[20:05] <subcool> bekks, thats my point- it works on my other two machines..
[20:06] <kabamaro> rtr- because i found a directory called "Sniffer"
[20:06] <bekks> subcool: Which I doubt, strongly.
[20:06] <subcool> bekks im coping it from two working computers
[20:06] <kabamaro> in my server
[20:06] <bekks> subcool: Then it cant be working, since it is wrong, simply.
[20:06] <nl287> there maybe another one service conflicting mDNS
[20:06] <rtr-> kabamaro, where did you find this folder?
[20:07] <kabamaro> rtr- in /root
[20:07] <RichardHolland> bekks, i just wanna use the file /etc/network/interfaces. Only after rebooten i don't get a static IP address on eth0 to work. I need the command dhclient eth0 to start the interface eth0
[20:08] <rtr-> kabamaro, and its simply that? /root/Sniffer ? nothing hidden? not even /root/.Sniffer ? whats in it?
[20:08] <kabamaro> there are over 500 files in it
[20:08] <kabamaro> such as
[20:08] <kabamaro> mpaux.h            ssh-keygen
[20:08] <kabamaro> Makefile.in        config.h.in       mpaux.o            ssh-keygen.0
[20:08] <FloodBot1> kabamaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <bekks> RichardHolland: you never get a static address, you have to assign it yourself.
[20:08] <DJones> kabamaro: If your server has been compromised, first thing to do would be disconnect it from the internet and then reinstall, you could never be sure that removing the things you don't recognise actually catches everything
[20:08] <nl287> RichardHolland: u need only proper edit interfaces
[20:09] <kabamaro> DJones i do not have physical access to it, only remote access
[20:09] <cstewart> Kabamaro that is present usually when you install wireshark on your system it creates root/sniffer
[20:10] <kabamaro> cstewart yes but i did not install wireshark
[20:10] <syn-ack> Anything with a pcap, for that matter
[20:10] <kabamaro> and i also found some brute-force scanners, something called go.sh, it scans servers for port 22 and brute-forces root password
[20:11] <syn-ack> yeah
[20:11] <syn-ack> destroy and rebuild. You're screwed
[20:11] <cstewart> if its a remote server you might want to install psacct to determine user activity
[20:11] <cstewart> yea reload
[20:12] <kabamaro> its my fault
[20:12] <cstewart> then look up ubuntu hardened server in google
[20:12] <dswhite85> I've got a minor issue with my sound. It randomly crackles from speakers/headphones and the sound crackles/pops noise whenever I adjust the volume up or down with no music playing. Any thoughts?
[20:12] <kabamaro> my root password was 1234
[20:12] <kabamaro> i guess thats how they got in
[20:12] <bekks> ouch
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: tsk tsk tsk
[20:12] <rtr-> watch your authorized_keys becuause i see ssh-keygen.0
[20:12] <syn-ack> You're kidding me, right?
[20:12] <syn-ack> 1234?
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: needs to be at least 8-10 characters, case sensitive and with a number and a special character
[20:12] <kabamaro> yeah, 1234.
[20:12] <DJones> kabamaro: And this is why ubuntu doesn't recommend setting any root passwords
[20:12] <cstewart> lol
[20:12] <lhx> kabamaro: you deerved to be rooted...
[20:13] <subcool> bekks yeah- it works
[20:13] <syn-ack> I was just going to say the samething
[20:13] <rtr-> how long did you have this password?
[20:13] <kabamaro> rtr about 2 months
[20:13] <lhx> kabamaro: also, you should change your SSH port to something non standard...
[20:13] <RichardHolland> bekks, i posted the whole problem on ubuntuforum with thread number 2169928. Maybe if you have time to react on that i would preciate that. Or somebody else for that matter.
[20:13] <kabamaro> lhx i tried that, i changed it... but even when i change it, port 22 still works
[20:13] <lhx> ummm....
[20:14] <lhx> i mean, before you were rooted
[20:14] <kabamaro> oh
[20:14] <kabamaro> lol
[20:14] <dswhite85> anyone have any ideas if maybe its a software or hardware issue or something in the terminal i could use to fix it?
[20:14] <lhx> you might as well reinstall from scractch dude
[20:14] <subcool> bekks, i just realized i didnt have the softare installed that supports nfs yet
[20:14] <kabamaro> im thinking of changing my internet provider anyway
[20:14] <lhx> you never know what stuff the cracker put on your box... only way to know for sure is to wipe it and start over
[20:14] <lhx> kabamaro: isp has nothing to do with it...
[20:15] <x-yuri> hi, I'm having hard time trying to make rt3090 (wifi) work on ubuntu raring. Does anyone know how to make it work?
[20:15] <kabamaro> lhx yeah i know, but im changing for a better location
[20:15] <cstewart> yea and install ufw and limit who can access the ssh port at minimum
[20:15] <kabamaro> lhx do you know anything about google compute server hosting?
[20:15] <lhx> kabamaro: yup... keeps them from brute forcing you
[20:15] <lhx> kabamaro: I like linode
[20:16] <kabamaro> i just purchased a server from google, it looks good since its hosted by google
[20:16] <holstein> hosting wont help you with security..
[20:16] <reisio> kabamaro: specs?
[20:16] <bekks> kabamaro: why do you need a hosted server?
[20:17] <kabamaro> i run multiple websites
[20:17] <pvtmert> hey ppl
[20:17] <lhx> https://library.linode.com/security
[20:17] <kabamaro> i dont usually use 1234 as a password, it was just a one time thing and they brute forced me
[20:18] <bekks> kabamaro: Which took just a few seconds, with that password. Just dont set a root password at all.
[20:18] <reisio> pvl1: hiyo
[20:18] <kabamaro> reisio 8x intel xeon 2.6ghz - 30gb ram
[20:18] <reisio> well, 1234 isn't so much brute force as instant access :)
[20:19] <reisio> kabamaro: that thing turbo charged? :p
[20:19] <basichash> How do I change nano tab spaces from to 4?
[20:19] <kabamaro> reisio if u want i can give u access to check it out
[20:19] <cstewart> server hardening - www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[20:19] <kabamaro> user access
[20:19] <kabamaro> since its new and empty
[20:19] <bekks> kabamaro: Do you have any URL about that google hosting?
[20:20] <bekks> kabamaro: If you give access away like that - do you really wonder about being brute forced?
[20:20] <reisio> kabamaro: sure
[20:20] <kabamaro> bekks: https://cloud.google.com/products/compute-engine
[20:20] <bekks> kabamaro: Never, literally never ever, give anyone access to your server. Never.
[20:21] <kabamaro> bekks im re-installing it tomorrow
[20:21] <kabamaro> its just for testing
[20:21] <bekks> kabamaro: Thats a cloud stuff only. :)
[20:21] <basichash> How do I change nano tab spaces from to 4?
[20:22] <kabamaro> bekks yeah but its amazing for web hosting and stuff
[20:22] <bekks> kabamaro: You dont have a "managed server" - you just have "a part of some cloud".
[20:22] <kabamaro> yeah i know
[20:22] <bekks> kabamaro: You said you have a managed server now.
[20:22] <kabamaro> its like a VPS i guess
[20:22] <Extreminador> guys what is the "x-session-manager" for ?
[20:22] <kabamaro> bekks not the google one, the other one that was brute-forced
[20:23] <Extreminador> two hours ago i did use it and the entire desktop have disappear leaving only the background and the desktop icons
[20:24] <bekks> kabamaro: And they are incredibly expensive. Running it 24h/7days will cost you 142$ a week - at least.
[20:24] <slimjimflim> hi, whenever i use sftp and try to upload a file to the remote server i hangs and says -stalled-.  i have a temporary fix of doing: `sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1490` but i'd like to find a permanent fix.  can anyone help?
[20:25] <hogilber> hola
[20:26] <Ampelbein> slimjimflim: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230926/how-do-i-change-the-mtu-value-on-ubuntu
[20:26] <reisio> shalom
[20:28] <slimjimflim> Ampelbein: thanks.  could this be an issue with my isp though?  i've been having problems getting flashplayer working consistently too.
[20:30] <Ampelbein> slimjimflim: I can't say. I neither know your ISP nor your method of connecting nor your home network layout.
[20:30] <c31r2g> hello
[20:30] <c31r2g> HisaoNakai: hello
[20:31] <slimjimflim> Ampelbein: no problem, now that i think of it, changing the mtu fixes flash too.
[20:31] <HisaoNakai> !ask | c31r2g
[20:31] <HisaoNakai> :)
[20:32] <dinu> ;)
[20:34] <dinu> why is it so quiet
[20:34] <cgtdk> dinu: because off toptic chatter isn't allowed
[20:34] <dinu> ok
[20:34] <cgtdk> *topic
[20:37] <lhx> kabamaro: go get the cheapest linode $20 a month, full vps... lots of storage and bandwidth... best customer service
[20:38] <kabamaro> lhx i will check it out
[20:38] <ubuntuissues> Hello, I have been the one having issues trying to restore my file system on my server, I ran an fsck and it said it completed with  issues. However, it says that it has created a a lost+found directory, unfortunately, I still am unable to mount it as the ubuntu live cd I am running states this:
[20:38] <ubuntuissues> Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ubuntu/root: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sda1" "/media/ubuntu/root"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[20:39] <Megonfle_167> !patience
[20:39] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Is the harware good? Have you checked the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive? Do you have backups of the important data?
[20:41] <te5ita> linux
[20:41] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, I don't have backups of the drive, it was the / partition. The SMART status is fine, and the hardware is good (it was in RAID 1).
[20:41] <ubuntuissues> If I attempt to do dumpe2fs it gives me a buch of information, but none that looks to be usable.
[20:41] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Why dont you try mounting it like: sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test
[20:42] <ubuntuissues> bekks,  I have tried that, and it reacts the same way... "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,"
[20:42] <SkeeterB> what device is usually the CD/DVD drive in linux? I have it set up as the secondary master on my IDE Bus
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: You said that it was in RAID1, is this a hardware RAID controller?
[20:43] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, it was, but it is logical damage to the disk. Considering I already did an fdisk, it should have already mirrored the data.
[20:43] <ubuntuissues> dmesg states this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022764/
[20:43] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Then look at dmesg. And pastebin: sudo blkid please
[20:45] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: What do you mean by "it was"? Is the device /dev/sda currently representing a hardware RAID1 of two different drives? (Note that true hardware RAID controllers are very expensive, and almost never come with Desktop motherboards).
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U,  Sorry, it should have been It is. The Hardware RAID controller is a PERC 5i. bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022777/
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> I removed some of the UUID's
[20:46] <ubuntuissues> However, the one I am trying to mount is labeled root
[20:47] <bekks> ubuntuissues: BAckup the disk, and run sudo fsck -f
[20:48] <ubuntuissues> bekks, I aready ran sudo fsck by it self on that drive.
[20:48] <bekks> ubuntuissues: fsck is not the same as fsck -f
[20:48] <ubuntuissues> Is it similar to fsck -y or -a
[20:49] <bekks> ubuntuissues: No.
[20:49] <ubuntuissues> bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022785/
[20:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Did that complete with an exit status of 0?
[20:54] <ubuntuissues> It ended with the last line in the pastebin, and then dropped me to the ability to run another comand. So yes.
[20:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: (To check, run "echo $?" *immediately* after running the command, or run "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1; echo $0" if it's too late for that.
[20:54] <ubuntuissues> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022795/
[20:55] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Sorry, typo. Should have been "$?", not "$0".
[20:56] <ubuntuissues> After displaying the last line (root.......) it has an exit status of 0, yes.
[20:58] <webx> I'm having a whale of a time trying to figure out which init script is hanging my machine.  ubuntu 13.04, and just after init-bottom finishes, it hangs
[20:59] <webx> I can't paste the dmesg output since the machine hangs, so I just took a picture.  the console looks like this: http://bit.ly/18RTxu8
[20:59] <SkeeterB> i have 12.04 LTS myself
[20:59] <webx> I'm wondering how I can figure out the script(s) that are running after init-bottom
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Try "sudo grub-mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/".
[21:00] <ubuntuissues> It returned to a new line with no error.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: "ls /mnt/" and see if you can see your files.
[21:01] <ubuntuissues> All it is is a lost and found folder now.
[21:01] <ubuntuissues> And it is taking a while to display the contents of it.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Slowness is expected with grub-mount, it's not really intended for normal use.
[21:02] <ubuntuissues> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022819/ So that is expected?
[21:03] <SkeeterB> have you tried booting using a live CD/DVD and mounting?
[21:03] <ubuntuissues> SkeeterB, I am in a livd disc right now.
[21:03] <bekks> SkeeterB: he is on a cd ;)
[21:03] <SkeeterB> oh
[21:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: It's not terribly surprising that it might take a long time to complete, but the fact that it only shows lost+found is not comforting.
[21:04] <bekks> ubuntuissues: could you pastebing the entire output of dmesg?
[21:04] <SkeeterB> ok I am on an installed version though
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> Yeah, I know. But, if it even has just the folders I need in lost+found, then I can rebuild the system with the /etc, /var, or /usr folders.
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> Just for my own sanity, can you define 'slowness', should I be waiting hours, or is it just a couple minutes?
[21:04] <ubuntuissues> bekks, hold on
[21:05] <hogilber> exit
[21:05] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: After 10 minutes you can probably give up on it ever finishing.
[21:05] <ubuntuissues> bekks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022826/
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> So if that fails, is there any other option I have to mount to even see if the files that are located are in there?
[21:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: And if it does finish after 10 mintues, I would expect it to be because all of your files were placed in the top level of lost+found leading to hundreds of thousands of files to be listed.
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, shouldn't the second 0 indicate how many files there actually are?
[21:06] <ubuntuissues> Or directories
[21:07] <ubuntuissues> So: dr-xr-xr-x 0 root root 0 Aug 24 15:05 lost+found That number after the owner would indicate if anything was recovered?
[21:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: grub-mount is not intended for regular use, and does not necessarily represent normal POSIX semantics.
[21:08] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Just look into that folder.
[21:09] <ubuntuissues> bekks, I can't cd or ls into it without it taking some time.
[21:09] <bekks> ubuntuissues: Then you have wait :)
[21:14] <ese> i need help with the sound, here is my lspci -v  thank you http://sprunge.us/JEWJ
[21:15] <bekks> ese: "JEWJ0824 not found"
[21:15] <ubuntuissues> Yeah, neither are doing anything right now.
[21:16] <ese> bekks,  how can i fix that?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Try #linuxfs or  #ext4 on irc.oftc.net.
[21:16] <bekks> ese: By giving us the correct URL.
[21:16] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, Alright, thanks.
[21:16] <ubuntuissues> You too bekks thanks
[21:16] <ese> bekks,  http://sprunge.us/JEWJ
[21:17] <ese> with out 09824
[21:17] <ese> *0924
[21:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: You're welcome. If you get no answers there (after waiting a while, most IRC channels are *much* less active than #ubuntu), try the linux-ext4 mailing list and if you don't mind, CC me on your email ( Whois me, my email is my first name dot my last name at gmail).
[21:19] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, alright
[21:19] <ubuntuissues> Uh, from the looks of it, #linuxfs isn't a support channel, it is a dev channel.
[21:20] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: Sorry, you're right. I was going by the comment at https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto .
[21:20] <tozen> quit
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntuissues: I think it's safe to say that you have found a bug, though I'm not certain of that.
[21:21] <ubuntuissues> Is this IRC chat recorded publicly anywhere?
[21:21] <ubuntuissues> Cause I don't have logging enabled due to it being on a livecd
[21:21] <sam__> I need to repair grub2 . I have mounted my ubuntu partition in live usb.and now I use this command
[21:21] <sam__> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda Path `/mnt/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[21:21] <OerHeks> !log
[21:22] <ese> bekks,  ese@ese-IdeaPad-Z585:~$ aplay -l
[21:22] <ese> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****  ...but does not show anything
[21:22] <Sector_0> hey guys I'm trying to emulate my mouse and keyboard using qjoypad but when I start the game the character and try to turn the character (via mouse emulation) the character spin violently
[21:22] <Jordan_U> sam__: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[21:22] <Sector_0> the other buttons seems to work though but something seem to be wrong with the mouse aspect of the emulation
[21:23] <Sector_0> I've even tried xpadder on top of wine and I get the same problem
[21:23] <Sector_0> so does anyone know what might cause this?
[21:23] <sam__> Jordan_U__: http://pastebin.com/jnFFSezD
[21:23] <ese> bekks, my sudo aplay -l: http://sprunge.us/HdAM
[21:23] <Sector_0> oh and also the mouse emulation works fine on the desktop, the problem only occurs in the game
[21:23] <ubuntuissues> OerHeks, thank you
[21:25] <Jordan_U> sam__: That's not what I asked for.
[21:25] <cuddylier> Hi
[21:25] <Sector_0> there some vague forum that suggested installing xserver-xorg-input-joystick but that requires xserver-xorg-core, but I'm kind of skeptical about doing so because that seem as though it's likely to brick ubuntu
[21:25] <cuddylier> I'm having issues viewing files on FTP, I can view a folder with the perms:  drwxrwx--- but why can't I view a folder with perms: d-wx--x--x
[21:26] <cuddylier> Also, how do I change this folder to drwxrwx---?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> sam__: It does however show that your root problem is that you haven't actually successfully mounted anything yet.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> sam__: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/
[21:27] <sam__> Jordan_U__:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda6 mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41 busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda6 is already mounted on /media/ubuntu/aa9a8b40-8489-4309-992e-5ffe0533bc41
[21:27] <ubuntuissues> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6022886/ would this be said bug? I can't tell if it is due to ext4 or something else.
[21:28] <bellatrix> Hello there
[21:28] <sam__> Jordan_U__: so how can i mount it?
[21:28] <silne30> Hello all. I am having an issue with partitions. I resized my drive to make more space for Linux and that operation was successful. When I went back into Linux, the entire HDD shows as unallocated space and when I double click the drive it tells me "Unable to Satisfy All Constraints"