[10:11] <maxwellian> Spaztic_Two: Okay, now right-click on the bars up there and go to edit connections, if it's there.
[10:11] <Trikks> I literally just installed Ubuntu. I'm a big newb at this. ^.^
[10:11] <mrwizeguy1983> it could be a driver issue if it never has worked sam555
[10:11] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: it worked with the old motherboard
[10:12] <sam555> this is the 2nd mb I've tried :(
[10:12] <Spaztic_Two> Maxwellian, ok, running to other computer
[10:12] <maxwellian> Ha, sorry!! :P
[10:12] <eoke> Sorry mrwizeguy1983 I missed your original question as some one seemed to already be assisting you.
[10:12] <ubu_> i cant send anything from my phone to the laptop acer spire one
[10:12] <mrwizeguy1983> eoke, what i need is to patch a kernel directly from the headers
[10:12] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: its the same type of mb of the same time of computer, so the mac should only be the difference
[10:12] <ubu_> do any one now how to fix this issus ?
[10:13] <eoke> mrwizeguy1983: I've never done that myself sorry.
[10:13] <ubu_> bluetooth "ubuntu 10.04
[10:13] <mrwizeguy1983> sam555, something probably needs to be forced to flush old data, it's above my linux tech level, ask eoke?
[10:13] <Spaztic_One> OK, got it open, maxwellian
[10:13] <eoke> ubu_: Have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:13] <sam555> eoke: do you know how to "flush" info out of a the OS so that my new motherboard can work with my old hard drive?
[10:13] <maxwellian> Okay, now click the wireless tab, and select your home network.
[10:14] <nunners42> vizzy: also tried new installs... thinking maybe need to go backwards in versions and try something a little older?
[10:14] <ubu_> eoke no but tnx
[10:14] <mrwizeguy1983> sam555, if you were using windows i'd tell you to go into safe mode and remove the driver and reinstall, but i don't know how to do the equivalent on ubuntu
[10:14] <Spaztic_One> and then?
[10:15] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: gotcha
[10:15] <sam555> yeah, if I was in windows, it would have just worked with a new mac address
[10:15] <mrwizeguy1983> lol well, you'd be surprised how much windows 98 and windows xp got hung up over stupid stuff
[10:15] <mrwizeguy1983> a driver being fully removed in safe mode cleared everything sam555 so it would have worked lol
[10:16] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Click edit, then go to the IP4 settings tab.
[10:16] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: but I don't know why I would need a new driver since it's the same exact motherboard as the other?
[10:16] <Spaztic_One> am I to change the "method"?
[10:16] <ubu_> eoke my problem is that the blue man works well the thing i have issus is that i can´t send anything like pic from lg ku990 phone to the bild in bluethooth acerspier mini
[10:16] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Yeah, we're gonna try manual.
[10:17] <Spaztic_One> do I need to add something then?
[10:17] <Spaztic_One> lol
[10:17] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Yes. :)
[10:17] <mrwizeguy1983> sam555, it's not the driver, it's the fact of it hanging on to the old info (probably) which would have been fixed on WINDOWS by clearing the driver, ubuntu works different and i don't know how to clear such data from ubuntu
[10:17] <ubu_> eoco sorry for my eng but hope u understand :)
[10:17] <swamprat> Hello
[10:17] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: oh, i see
[10:17] <Gryllida> Hi
[10:17] <tasas> Hola
[10:18] <Spaztic_One> is netmask the subnetmask?
[10:18] <Na> เล่นยังไง
[10:18] <Spaztic_One> or does that matter?
[10:18] <mrwizeguy1983> one of the pros in here probably knows a command to flush old network data and/or reset pci devices sam555, your issue is probably a one command fix i just don't know said command
[10:18] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Yes.
[10:18] <swamprat> How to get evoultion close to try and not to exit(Ubuntu 10.04)?
[10:18] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: But you need to pick a unique address for the first box.
[10:18] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Not the same one as the other computer.
[10:18] <sam555> mrwizeguy1983: np, i'm also asking people on linux
[10:19] <Spaztic_One> ah, I thought that was the address of my router
[10:19] <Spaztic_One> ok
[10:19] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: For example, <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:19] <nunners42> Can anyone recommend an slightly old version of ubuntu for installing on a server that's pretty robust?  Tried lucid 10.04, but keeps crashing and want to see if it is Lucid or hardware...
[10:19] <mrwizeguy1983> i fix windows pc's for money and going to be a network admin when dome with classes, but i only use linux for recreation and not as good at it, sorry sam555
[10:19] <Spaztic_One> yea, and then the 255 for the net mask
[10:19] <Spaztic_One> what for the gateway?
[10:20] <swamprat> nunners42: try 8.04 LTS
[10:20] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: That's where you put the address of the router.
[10:20] <Spaztic_One> aaah
[10:20] <otak> !debian nunners42
[10:20] <Spaztic_One> do I need to put in DNS server stuff?
[10:20] <nunners42> otak: why debian?
[10:21] <sam555> so apparently, I have eth2!
[10:21] <sam555> but no IP on eth2
[10:21] <sam555> any ideas how to set that up?
[10:21] <otak> nunners42: it just seems more stable on older hardware
[10:21] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Hopefully not.  We'll cross that bridge in a minute. :P
[10:21] <mrwizeguy1983> lol, think it kept your old mac address as eth0 and eth2 is the new one sam555 ?
[10:22] <nunners42> otak: thing is it's brand new hardware....! I'll give it a go though....
[10:22] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Oh, sorry, I forgot to look at the Windows stuff again.  Yeah, just put the router address again for DNS.
[10:22] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: That's what your windows machine is doing, apparently.
[10:23] <mrwizeguy1983> sam555, it's just a guess, but try right clicking the network icon on the system tray and going to edit connections, then edit eth2 and see what you can find, make sure it's set to connect automatically etc.
[10:23] <swamprat> How to minimize evolution to tray but not to close it? (ubuntu 10.04)
[10:24] <otak> nunners42: soz misunderstood. I find debian easier to configure in terminal..
[10:24] <IConrad01> swamprat: Try Alltray
[10:24] <Trikks> I'm having trouble with YouTube videos, I can't seem to press pause or play.
[10:24] <Trikks> Can anyone help?
[10:24] <IConrad01> Trikks: Tried http://www.youtube.com/html5 ?
[10:25] <mrwizeguy1983> Trikks, do you know how to use synaptic?
[10:25] <nunners42> otak: ok - see what you mean... I haven't actually configured much on the hardware side - in fact I think the only thing I've done is change the IP... as I said about, the motherboard has display/sound built in, so not sure what else I could configure...
[10:25] <eoke> Trikks: If there not on youtube.com itself I some times have to right click and select "Watch on youtube"
[10:25] <mrwizeguy1983> make sure you have flash player installed Trikks
[10:25] <plop_ag> sam555, you want to change the name of eth2 ? or set the network ?
[10:25] <IConrad01> Trikks: Alternatively -- http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/fix-mouse-clicks-not-working-in-flash.html
[10:26] <plop_ag> sam555, udev now store some rules to match hardware and assign network interface to ethX
[10:26] <plop_ag> sam555, look into /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:26] <mrwizeguy1983> plop_ag, you know how to patch a kernel?
[10:26] <swamprat> IConrad01: Thanks it works
[10:27] <IConrad01> swamprat:  :-)
[10:27] <IConrad01> ... Is anyone in here familiar with GRUB2 and booting *.iso files via it?
[10:27] <IConrad01> Specifically, Syslinux-based LiveCD (PCRegedit)
[10:27] <Trikks> Wait, How do I apply this Linux Firefox patch?
[10:27] <IConrad01> I'm trying to add an option to my multibooting USB drive
[10:28] <plop_ag> mrwizeguy1983, a lot of people know how to do that, and there is a lot of odc available on this subjet
[10:28] <IConrad01> Trikks: Just execute the commands that website tells you to.
[10:28] <Spaztic_One> hmmm
[10:28] <IConrad01> It'll give you mouseclicks back.
[10:28] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: What happened?
[10:28] <sam555> plop_ag: is it ok to just use eth2?
[10:28] <mrwizeguy1983> plop_ag, it says in the documentation i don't have to compile a custom kernel, just use the headers provided, how do i do that? it didn't have a link for that
[10:28] <Trikks> The WebM enabled version, correct?
[10:28] <Spaztic_One> Unplugged the cable and tried it, but it didn't work, apparently
[10:28] <plop_ag> IConrad01, http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/Boot-an-ISO-via-Grub2.html
[10:29] <ddavids> hello all
[10:29] <Gryllida> hi
[10:29] <Spaztic_One> also, for a brief moment, I saw both my network and my neighbor's, as well as the one I predefined
[10:29] <plop_ag> sam555, yes you can, it is not really important, it is just in case you want to assign another name (i didnt understand you first question)
[10:29] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Where did you see them?
[10:29] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: And we're talking about three networks?
[10:29] <sam555> plop_ag: np, I was just trying to get out
[10:30] <Ego_Proctor> I have a problem with my sound.  Every time I restart my computer, or logout and log back it the sound does not work properly.  The volume control looks like it is on full blast, but if I turn it up it goes back to zero and then fills up and then the sound works.
[10:30] <plop_ag> mrwizeguy1983, really depends on what you want to do
[10:30] <Spaztic_One> I saw them in the list of available networks, and yes, three, though one owas the predefined one I have been using thus far
[10:30] <mrwizeguy1983> plop_ag, a very simple .patch file to make my built in mic work
[10:30] <IConrad01> plop_ag: I'm already booting three *.iso files.
[10:30] <Ego_Proctor> some times I have to mute and then unmute the sound and then turn it up for it to work.
[10:30] <IConrad01> It's the Syslinux boot disk I'm having issues with.
[10:30] <ddavids> pls i usually receive these kind of errors when i save with geidt on the terminalerror: line 53471: bad flag vector alias
[10:30] <ddavids> error: line 53473: bad flag alias index: 0
[10:30] <ddavids> error: line 53473: bad flag vector alias
[10:30] <ddavids> error: line 53474: bad flag alias index: 0
[10:30] <FloodBot2> ddavids: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:30] <ddavids> error: line 53474: bad flag vector alias
[10:31] <ddavids> error: line 53475: bad flag alias index: 0
[10:31] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: What do you mean, predefined?  You should be editing properties for your home wireless network, not creating a new one.
[10:32] <Spaztic_One> There wasn't one hours ago when I first started trying to get my computer online
[10:32] <Spaztic_One> there is one now
[10:32] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: So were you editing the one for your actual home network?
[10:32] <ddavids> pls i need assistance with theses errors that show in the terminal whenever i try to save something using gedit error: line 53471: bad flag vector alias
[10:32] <ddavids> error: line 53473: bad flag alias index: 0
[10:33] <IConrad01> plop_ag: For example -- It has no vmlinuz file and the initrd file is hidden inside of another file...
[10:33] <IConrad01> Is it just not supportable, or... ?
[10:33] <mrwizeguy1983> ddavids, what are you trying to edit with gedit?
[10:33] <Spaztic_One> 10 minutes ago, there was only one entry in the network connections window, and it was the one I had made initially
[10:33] <hypn0> in 10.04 i came across an odd thing, i booted up, normally (previously i had removed quiet and splash from boot commands), so what happened was there was a forced check on drive cause it had been booted 30 or 35 times (i can remember exactly), the odd thing was there was no other output like in previous versions, there was a spinning text character. at first i thought it had stopped booting, and there was an error, it was only because i had read the previous
[10:33] <hypn0>  output, before screen went blank, and cause i know 'a forced check' takes time, that i didnt panic. a newbie would probably thing it had crashed and restart it using button. just thought i'd tell u abt it.
[10:33] <ddavids> anything i try at all
[10:33] <Spaztic_One> now there are two, the one that has been there, as well as an "auto" one that has recently appeared
[10:34] <mrwizeguy1983> ddavids, it could be something about the file you're editing or maybe gedit is experiencing problems, try editing with nano or openoffice and see if that works
[10:34] <ddavids> mrwizeguys1983, anything i save
[10:34] <plop_ag> mrwizeguy1983, you have to get the kernel source, and apply your patch, and rebuild the module for you kernel
[10:35] <mrwizeguy1983> plop_ag, the documentation said i don't have to do it that way, i've built kernels before and it was a pain
[10:35] <plop_ag> really depends, you can do it like dkms
[10:35] <mrwizeguy1983> i was not good at it, got it wrong even from the guide a few times plop_ag, it requires more patience than i have....you sure it can't be done from the headers like the documentation implies?
[10:35] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: But all the manual editing we just did...did you do it for your actual home network?  With the name of your home network?
[10:35] <IConrad01> mrwizeguy1983: ddavids: Using OpenOffice to edit config files or pure linux-text files is a recipe for disaster.
[10:36] <Spaztic_One> yes
[10:36] <mrwizeguy1983> IConrad01, yes clearly, but i think he's trying to edit other files
[10:36] <Spaztic_One> and the new one also has the name, but it has the word "auto" in front of it
[10:36] <mrwizeguy1983> personally i use nano often IConrad01
[10:36] <maxwellian> ddavids: Apparently this is a known bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/583911
[10:36] <plop_ag> mrwizeguy1983, yes, dkms only use headers from the kernel
[10:36] <IConrad01> mrwizeguy1983: Vi(m) is winning me over.
[10:37] <plop_ag> IConrad01, sorry i dont know if it is supported
[10:37] <andeeeuk> has anyone updated to the new linux kernal and found that their ati drivers are no longer working
[10:37] <andeeeuk> ?
[10:37] <IConrad01> plop_ag: Any ideas on where I could even check for such a thing?
[10:37] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Hmm...auto in that context usually means auto connect.
[10:37] <Spaztic_One> ah
[10:38] <Spaztic_One> well, both have auto connect checked
[10:38] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: If you go in to edit them, which one has your changes?
[10:38] <plop_ag> IConrad01, you can't extract your vmlinuz ?
[10:38] <IConrad01> plop_ag: There *isn't* one.
[10:39] <Spaztic_One> the one that does not have auto is how I set it, the other one is similar except that it has dhcp instead of manual
[10:39] <plop_ag> IConrad01, what did you try to boot ?
[10:39] <IConrad01> PCRegedit.
[10:39] <andeeeuk> I have updated to the new linux kernal and the ati drivers are no longer working, has anyone else had this problem?
[10:39] <IConrad01> It's Syslinux based.
[10:39] <Spaztic_One> and it says infrastructer instead of adhoc
[10:40] <mrwizeguy1983> andeeeuk, did you happen to install the update to linux-firmware around the same time?  that one gave me hell
[10:40] <andeeeuk> yeah
[10:40] <IConrad01> Actually, it has both an isolinux and a syslinux *.cfg
[10:40] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One, okay go into the one that says auto and uncheck the automatically connect part.
[10:40] <andeeeuk> i think that was in the same update
[10:40] <erUSUL> andeeeuk: probably you have to reinstall the drivers
[10:40] <Spaztic_One> done
[10:40] <plop_ag> IConrad01, and this tool is hidden in the iso ?
[10:41] <DocPlatypus> okay... I'll try again. Got a system I just now tried to upgrade to 10.04 and when I boot the new kernel I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" old kernel will boot into text mode but not X
[10:41] <maxwellian> Now the other one that you've customized is supposed to be set to automatically connect?
[10:41] <mrwizeguy1983> andeeeuk, that's probably what did it.  i had to force the installation of it to make it overwrite a certain file it couldn't automatically, then purge the graphics drivers i had, then install new ones.  might be the same for you, might not
[10:41] <andeeeuk> I have tried reinstalling the drivers but was having problema
[10:41] <IConrad01> plop_ag: ... PCRegedit *is* the *.iso
[10:41] <Spaztic_One> correct
[10:41] <andeeeuk> lol
[10:41] <plop_ag> IConrad01, menuentry "PCRegedit" { linux16 /pcregedit iso
[10:41] <IConrad01> No dice.
[10:41] <andeeeuk> that sounds like a bit of a pain
[10:41] <DocPlatypus> it's a laptop with Intel GMA and I've tried i915.modeset=0 just now. that gets the old kernel where it tries  to start X but the backlight just flickers on and off again about 20 times
[10:42] <andeeeuk> cheers for letting me know
[10:42] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Okay, in fact, just to get a little more control, uncheck auto for that one too.
[10:42] <andeeeuk> will have to go through all of that again
[10:42] <plop_ag> icarus901, http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK#GRUB2
[10:42] <plop_ag> oups
[10:42] <IConrad01> plop_ag: How could that work without a loopback entry or pointing to the kernel or initrd file?
[10:42] <Spaztic_One> ok
[10:42] <plop_ag> IConrad01, http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK#GRUB2
[10:43] <otak> Spaztic_One: auto means use dhcp. thats what you want isn't it?
[10:43] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: No, there are two meanings of "auto".
[10:43] <mrwizeguy1983> andeeeuk, yes it was a pain, a huge pain.  some conflict with a medibuntu package made linux-firmware not install properly.  did you get an error message when you did the update? if not it may not be the same problem
[10:43] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: One is to automatically connect to the network when it's in range.
[10:44] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: The other is to automatically configure the IP address and all that, instead of us specifying it manually.  (This kind of auto is handled by DHCP.)
[10:44] <pims> hi
[10:44] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: So now you should have two versions of your home network listing, one that's setup for DHCP, and one that's set manual.
[10:45] <Spaztic_One> hmmm
[10:45] <IConrad01> plop_ag: That link is **exclusively** for memdisk
[10:45] <umc-work> hey guys. I have a weird problem. I created an udev rule so my webcam is /dev/custom0, and it has root:video owners, but if I try streaming with vlc, I get a permission denied. if I plug it in a different usb and it gets name /dev/video0, streaming works fine, and it has the same permissions. any idea what could be the problem ?
[10:45] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: For BOTH, however, I want you to uncheck the checkbox that says "Connect automatically".
[10:45] <Spaztic_One> our router is set to assign network address to computers
[10:45] <IConrad01> Unless you're suggesting chainloading from GRUB2 to memdisk and from there into PCRegedit... ?
[10:45] <pims> how can I do a word research in the terminal please ? I tail -f a log and I'd like to look for a word in the output
[10:45] <Spaztic_One> YEs, I did that
[10:45] <plop_ag> IConrad01, memedisk is a syslinux tool, like pcregedit
[10:46] <IConrad01> plop_ag: No, PCRegedit is a full LiveCD distro that uses Syslinux to boot.
[10:46] <Spaztic_One> maaaaan.... its light outside
[10:46] <Spaztic_One> and its quarter til 6
[10:46] <emily__> hi guys, where do I need to look to find what error is causing my X to crash seemingly randomly? It's a clean Lucid install.
[10:46] <coz_> Spaztic_One, mm I see that here too
[10:46] <IConrad01> pims: Execute your normal command, but add this to the end:  " | grep WordToLookFor "
[10:46] <coz_> spartan07,  you must be in same timezone
[10:46] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Bleh, sorry dude.  We should probably call it a night.
[10:46] <IConrad01> pims: Just the stuff inside the quotes -- not the quotes themselves.
[10:46] <coz_> Spaztic_One,  you must be in same timezone  sorry  spartan07
[10:46] <Spaztic_One> lol
[10:47] <pims> IConrad01: will it work with live output coming every second ?
[10:47] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Even if we kept at it, it might not work.  This is a network configuration problem, and I'm not very experienced at it.
[10:47] <Spaztic_One> ah
[10:47] <Spaztic_One> hmm
[10:47] <abhi_nav> Namaste!!!
[10:47] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: If you come back tomorrow, someone with more experience can hopefully help?
[10:47] <IConrad01> pims: grep searches inputs for items and returns them.  If the command is ongoing so will the output be.
[10:47] <IConrad01> It's just piping one command's input to another.
[10:47] <pims> ok
[10:47] <Spaztic_One> well, you have any idea why i'm not seeing my neighbor's network anymore?
[10:47] <IConrad01> Pipes are your friend.
[10:47] <pims> ok
[10:48] <andeeeuk> mrwizeguy1983 i didnt receive an error when i updated
[10:48] <IConrad01> Pipes make l33ts of n00bs.  lol
[10:48] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: When did that happen?
[10:48] <Viking667> hey ho, all.
[10:48] <pims> IConrad01 > what if I want the entire output and just hightlight the words I look for ? doing | more or something ?
[10:48] <Spaztic_One> a while ago. I told you?
[10:48] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: I thought you said you were seeing there's, yours, and another one of yours with Auto in its name?
[10:49] <IConrad01> pims: piping to more will just let you scroll through the outputs over time.  I don't know about highlighting.
[10:49] <andeeeuk> graphics cards always seem to be a problem with kernal updates
[10:49] <Spaztic_One> I was
[10:49] <andeeeuk> well, with my experience
[10:49] <Spaztic_One> theirs is part of that set
[10:49] <pims> IConrad01, > you know, when in a man page you can type / and then the word you look for
[10:49] <Spaztic_One> currently, I'm only seeing the one I made by hand
[10:49] <erUSUL> emily__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/.xsession-errors /var/log/messages
[10:49] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Ha, theirs, sorry.
[10:49] <IConrad01> pims: That should work, yes.  Same as with Vi
[10:49] <plop_ag> IConrad01, did you try : loopback loop /boot/file.iso  chainloader (loop) ?
[10:49] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Hmm...
[10:50] <IConrad01> plop_ag: You can't chainload into *.iso's in GRUB2.
[10:50] <pims> ok
[10:50] <pims> thanks
[10:50] <IConrad01> plop_ag: That's a known bug in GRUB2.
[10:50] <DocPlatypus> okay... how do I get debugging output from gdm?
[10:50] <plop_ag> IConrad01, argh...
[10:50] <IConrad01> plop_ag: Yeah.
[10:50] <Viking667> can Grub2 actually boot into/onto a CD-rom?
[10:50] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: In the terminal type sudo iwlist scan
[10:50] <plop_ag> IConrad01, sounds bad....
[10:50] <DocPlatypus> I've looked in /var/log/gdm/:0*.log and nothing there is immediately useful
[10:51] <Viking667> (assuming it's bootable to begin with)
[10:51] <IConrad01> Viking667: I've got a multibooting USB drive with 3 *.iso files and memtest on it.
[10:51] <DocPlatypus> I need to see exactly what it's trying to do that keeps failing
[10:51] <IConrad01> Viking667: I'm trying to add PCRegedit to it.
[10:51] <emily__> erUSUL, thanks, I'll give those a glance
[10:51] <DocPlatypus> anyone?
[10:51] <Viking667> heh. Wossat then?
[10:51] <IConrad01> Viking667: It's a Linux-based LiveCD meant to correct Windows registries.
[10:51] <Viking667> aaaah.
[10:52] <Viking667> what's being used on the key? syslinux?
[10:52] <IConrad01> GRUB2.
[10:52] <Spaztic_One> maxwellian http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/2mqEZ0P4
[10:52] <Viking667> oh...
[10:52] <IConrad01> The PCRegedit *.iso uses Syslinux.
[10:52] <IConrad01> Ubuntu & Backtrack use Casper for their LiveCDs.
[10:52] <IConrad01> I can boot Casper disks, but I can't figure out isolinux/syslinux
[10:52] <Viking667> yeah, but you're more after how to boot those ISOs from an external grub, right?
[10:53] <IConrad01> Viking667: Ubuntu & Backtrack 4 I've already got booting.  It's just PCRegedit I'm after.
[10:53] <Viking667> right.
[10:53] <abhi_nav> whats up guys?
[10:53] <IConrad01> By the way -- Backtrack 4 won't boot if you have ext4 formatted drives on the machine.
[10:53] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: deconet is the name of your home network?
[10:53] <Viking667> abhi_nav: jupiter? Or is that saturn?
[10:53] <IConrad01> It just bitches at you constantly until you reboot.
[10:53] <Spaztic_One> yes
[10:53] <Viking667> IConrad01: ugh. Nasty.
[10:53] <abhi_nav> Viking667, Saturn
[10:54] <IConrad01> Viking667: Doesn't hurt anything, happily.
[10:54] <Viking667> abhi_nav: I wasn't sure, I knew it was one of those two...
[10:54] <abhi_nav> Viking667, hmm
[10:54] <abhi_nav> though I dont know what you are taling aout
[10:54] <IConrad01> ...
[10:54] <IConrad01> Ubuntu's updating GRUB.
[10:54] <IConrad01> It's like they know I'm talking about it.  Creepy. <_<
[10:55] <Viking667> abhi_nav: it's my night time at the moment, one really bright planet (not mars nor venus) has just about set if it hasn't already set.
[10:55] <abhi_nav> hmm
[10:55] <plop_ag> IConrad01, i mount loop the pcregedit image
[10:55] <plop_ag> IConrad01, there is a linux kernel in it
[10:56] <IConrad01> plop_ag: Yes, there is.
[10:56] <IConrad01> Called "Linux"
[10:56] <plop_ag> IConrad01, yes
[10:56] <IConrad01> I tried that and it didn't work.  What's your menuentry look like?
[10:56] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: I don't know why it's not listing the other two.  I'm afraid I don't know what else to do.  I just don't know enough about setting up these networks manually to be useful.  I wish there were someone here who could help. :\
[10:56] <Spaztic_One> ok
[10:56] <Spaztic_One> well
[10:57] <Spaztic_One> i'm going to go to bed and stuff
[10:57] <Spaztic_One> since i have to be up in like, 3 hours
[10:57] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Yup, sorry we didn't get further.
[10:57] <Spaztic_One> its ok
[10:57] <plop_ag> IConrad01, should be like you other linux ISO, just point to that file in the grub2's config
[10:58] <Spaztic_One> night all
[10:58] <maxwellian> If you don't think it would jack up your other computers too much, I would try putting your router back to the default address space.
[10:58] <IConrad01> plop_ag: ... no, they can't look anything at all alike.
[10:58] <IConrad01> That couldn't and shouldn't work.
[10:58] <IConrad01> Especially since it's GRUB2's config I'm trying to create here.
[10:58] <IConrad01> You said you mount looped for PCRegedit -- what is your menuentry?
[10:59] <IConrad01> Can you pastebin or something it for me?
[10:59] <unimatrix> is there a way to control a remote system with synaptic or the USC?
[10:59] <plop_ag> IConrad01, i fouhd a lot of doc about boot an iso via grub2 ? they are all liyng ?
[10:59] <IConrad01> unimatrix: SSH -X user@location
[10:59] <IConrad01> unimatrix: From there, execute " sudo synaptic "
[10:59] <unimatrix> IConrad01 when the remote system doesn't use X
[11:00] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Doesn't matter.  The application is the client, and as long as *you* are running an X server you're set.
[11:00] <plop_ag> IConrad01, i didnt try to boot it with grub2, because i am currently using my workstation, the only box i have with grub2 :/
[11:00] <IConrad01> unimatrix: The application will use *your* X session to draw the windows with, IOW.
[11:00] <plop_ag> IConrad01, i mount it loop on my system, to check the content
[11:00] <unimatrix> IConrad01 i'm pretty sure this won't work
[11:00] <IConrad01> unimatrix: I do it all the time.
[11:01] <hopeless8009> i need help connecting my 10.4 server to our network though wireless
[11:01] <_vadim> Is it possible to make a script run on boot, before logins are allowed? Upstart insists in running it in parallel, which I explicitly do NOT want. The script must run until completion before logins are allowed, or X is started.
[11:01] <IConrad01> unimatrix: It's specifically what X was designed to do.
[11:01] <unimatrix> IConrad01 yeah but you need it on both the client and the server
[11:01] <IConrad01> unimatrix: No, you do not.
[11:01] <IConrad01> unimatrix: I X-forward from my headless server in runlevel 3 *all the time*.
[11:01] <IConrad01> unimatrix: X was **designed** for that.
[11:02] <IConrad01> unimatrix: The worst that will happen is the application won't launch.  Give it a whirl. :)  I promise you'll enjoy the results.
[11:02] <unimatrix> IConrad01 well in worst case i still need synaptic installed on the remote machine
[11:03] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, can you help me connect my sever to the network
[11:03] <IConrad01> _vadim: You should, in theory, be able to add an init script.  But that's hoary stuff.
[11:03] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Wireless connection, right?  Do you need more than one internet connection running simultaneously on that server?
[11:03] <hopeless8009> no
[11:03] <erUSUL> _vadim: ask in #upstart how to express the contraints of your init script
[11:03] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: If not, wicd can be used from CLI.
[11:03] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, no
[11:04] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, how do i get that
[11:04] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, and how do i install it on the server
[11:04] <unimatrix> IConrad01: (synaptic:22037): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:04] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: If you can connect it over ethernet temporarily, you can install it that way.  Alternatively you can pull the *.deb file manually and install it using dpkg -i
[11:04] <erUSUL> hopeless8009: /etc/network/interfaces can be used to configure wifi.
[11:04] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Did you throw the -X flag?  In capital?
[11:04] <erUSUL> hopeless8009: wpa?
[11:04] <unimatrix> IConrad01 yup
[11:05] <IConrad01> unimatrix: ssh -X user@location
[11:05] <unimatrix> IConrad01 exactly like that
[11:05] <hopeless8009> erUSUL, i've done that and yes its WPA
[11:05] <IConrad01> Okay.  And you executed "sudo synaptic" rather than opening up a root shell?
[11:05] <KnightStalker> I saw my postfix sending(receivng worked) not working so,I searched google and finded out to test host -t mx gmail.com for example,I saw it failing,any reasons?
[11:05] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, I cant connect to eatheranet
[11:06] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, how do i get it manualy
[11:06] <plop_ag> IConrad01, perhaps you can try to redo the cdrom ? make it bootable from grub2 ?
[11:06] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Does it have USB drives?  Download the *.deb file elsewhere and drop via USB.
[11:06] <erUSUL> hopeless8009: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant
[11:06] <IConrad01> plop_ag: They don't provide source.  And that's above my pay grade.
[11:06] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, yes it has USB drive where do i get the .deb at
[11:07] <unimatrix> IConrad01 what do you mean opening a root shell?
[11:07] <IConrad01> unimatrix: The X-forwarding only works for the session you're currently in.
[11:08] <IConrad01> You do //NOT// need an X-server running on the device *forwarding* the X session to your remote machine, from which you perform the operation.
[11:08] <unimatrix> IConrad01 it gives the same error without sudo
[11:08] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Is your local machine also headless?
[11:09] <unimatrix> IConrad01 you mean without X? no
[11:09] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Then it absolutely ought to be working.
[11:09] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: Try apt-get --download-only wicd
[11:09] <IConrad01> unimatrix: But that error is what happens when X is not forwarding.
[11:09] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I always forget that option.  Thank you.
[11:09] <unimatrix> IConrad01 I even have X11 forwarding enabled in /etc/sshd_conf
[11:09] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Do that from, obviously, a different machine.
[11:10] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Did you restart ssh?
[11:10] <unimatrix> IConrad01 it's been enabled for years
[11:10] <IConrad01> Hrm.  Then it should be working.
[11:10] <IConrad01> Try ssh -Y
[11:10] <bouma> hello, could anyone help me. im getting /media/bf??______'s where _'s get appended to the invalid /media entry for a partition.
[11:10] <unimatrix> IConrad01 could it be a problem with the DISPLAY variable not being set?
[11:11] <bouma> how can i remove these ? do i have to use rm / on the file/link/inode ?
[11:11] <IConrad01> unimatrix: ... I'm not setting DISPLAY on my machines.
[11:11] <hopeless8009> maxwellin, are you Iconrad01 also
[11:12] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: No, we're different people. lol
[11:12] <KnightStalker> XD
[11:12] <unimatrix> IConrad01 -Y makes no difference
[11:12] <wakkarto> hi
[11:12] <bouma> is there a better was to fix the issue, permanently would be nice
[11:12] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: No, unless this is some kind of messed up Fight Club remake.
[11:12] <IConrad01> unimatrix: pastebin your ssh_config ?
[11:12] <unimatrix> IConrad01 sure
[11:12] <KnightStalker> I saw my postfix sending(receivng worked) not working so,I searched google and finded out to test host -t mx gmail.com for example,I saw it failing,any reasons?thats showed via postfix tail " Name service error for name=gmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again"
[11:12] <hopeless8009> maxwellian, where will they be after they are downlaoded
[11:12] <IConrad01> You should have ForwardX11 yes uncommented and ForwardX11Truest yes as well...
[11:12] <bartj> can some one plz help with resizing my root partition
[11:12] <bartj> it is 100% full
[11:13] <bartj> I am trying to use gparted
[11:13] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Doesn't matter.  Just throw "find / | grep wicd" as root and you'll find it. :)
[11:13] <erUSUL> bartj: try to make some room... « sudo apt-get clean »
[11:13] <wakkarto> is that even possible?
[11:13] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: The .deb file will be in the current directory, meaning the directory you were in when you ran the command.
[11:13] <IConrad01> bartj: You want to do that from LiveCD
[11:13] <unimatrix> IConrad01 http://pastebin.com/pibPnnYh
[11:13] <IConrad01> bartj: gparted won't work on mounted drives
[11:13] <love_> السلام عليكم
[11:13] <love_> في شباب هنا
[11:13] <erUSUL> !sa
[11:13]  * AmberJ Gets erUSUL sa <%)
[11:14] <maxwellian> IConrad01: On my machine that kind of search would take a long time...it pays to know where things end up. :)
[11:14] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, Maxwellian, the command did not work
[11:14] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: What happened?
[11:14] <erUSUL> !es
[11:14]  * AmberJ Gets erUSUL es <%)
[11:14] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: You didn't try to run it from the machine to do the install with, did you?
[11:14] <wakkarto> IConrad01: is it even possible to resize your root partition if it is not mounted? to make it bigger i mean...
[11:14] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: Bah, I gave you the wrong syntax.
[11:14] <IConrad01> maxwellian: How much shit have you got?  I've got 200 GB on my laptop and a full find takes fifteen seconds...
[11:15] <IConrad01> wakkarto: That's the only way to do so.
[11:15] <hopeless8009> john@john-laptop:~$ apt-get --download-only wicd
[11:15] <hopeless8009> E: Invalid operation wicd
[11:15] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: "sudo apt-get install wicd --download-only" ?
[11:15] <love_> السلام عليكم
[11:15] <love_> السلام عليكم
[11:15] <FloodBot2> love_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: What he said. :)  Don't know if --download-only needs to go earlier or not.
[11:16] <IConrad01> unimatrix: Change "X11Forwarding yes" to "ForwardX11 yes"
[11:16] <maxwellian> IConrad01: My computer is just slow man, lay off. :)
[11:16] <Gryllida> AmberJ: turn your script off please
[11:16] <IConrad01> maxwellian: It's alright.  Not everybody gets to replace their laptop three times in the same year due to their home getting repeatedly broken into like I do.  >_<
[11:16] <carlos_> hey, can anyone help me with mounting a .iso image
[11:16] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Well if I were the guy breaking in, at least I'd have a nice computer.
[11:17] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok i jsut downloaded it what is this again
[11:17] <unimatrix> IConrad01: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 63: Bad configuration option: ForwardX11
[11:17] <Spaztic_One> maxwellian, guess what
[11:17] <AmberJ> Gryllida: Yeah. sorry..mistakenly loaded that script
[11:17] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: What?
[11:17] <KnightStalker> no one knows anything about postfix? >_>
[11:17] <Spaztic_One> I'm wireless
[11:17] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Yeah, by the way -- Lo/Jack for laptops is a waste of money.
[11:17] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: What?!  How?
[11:17] <Spaztic_One> I'm not sure how, but it works
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> okay... what exactly is the difference between -386 and -generic kernels?
[11:17] <bartj> IConrad01, I have a root partition followed by another partition, which is followed by unallocated space. Now, given that there is no free space contiguous with the root partition, will gparted work in this case? I tried it from a live cd but it didn't seem to be using the unallocated space.
[11:17] <erUSUL> KnightStalker: try in #ubuntu-server
[11:17] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Good to know...
[11:17] <IConrad01> unimatrix: I CNP'd that directly from my own ssh_config file.
[11:17] <KnightStalker> erUSUL,thansk!
[11:17] <KnightStalker> thanks*
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: I thought LoJack for laptops was Windows specific anyway?
[11:17] <Spaztic_One> I closed all programs, and shut my computer
[11:17] <Spaztic_One> I decided to tryit one more time
[11:18] <carlos_> anyone help me with mounting a .iso?
[11:18] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: It is, but so was the other laptop.
[11:18] <Spaztic_One> when I opened it, I had to reload the drivers
[11:18] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: how the hell does it work anyway?
[11:18] <Spaztic_One> but then it saw the networks
[11:18] <IConrad01> carlos_: Just use the GUI tools... :-/
[11:18] <Spaztic_One> I deleted the one we made, and am using the one it found instead
[11:18] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: Basically whenever your computer logs on, it pings a specific server and reports its current IP.
[11:18] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: And it just works?
[11:18] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: Unless, of course, they reformat.
[11:18] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i ran the comand at john@john where would i find the file?
[11:18] <AmberJ> Can someone tell which script Gryllida was talking about?
[11:18] <Spaztic_One> also, the wireless indicator light keeps changing color from blue to orange seemingly at random
[11:18] <Spaztic_One> and yes, it just works
[11:19] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: easily defeated by just not letting it on the net... yeah, or reformatting, too
[11:19] <erUSUL> AmberJ: the one that triggers this 12:14  * AmberJ Gets erUSUL es <%)
[11:19] <unimatrix> IConrad01 ok i got it working
[11:19] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: From the machine you ran the command, execute "find / | grep wicd" as root.
[11:19] <carlos_> IConrad01: I tried using sudo mount -o loop -t iso 9660 and then the image and then the directory and came up with something strange
[11:19] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: I *did* mention it was a waste of money.
[11:19] <maxwellian> IConrad01: FYI, hopeless8009 is a total noob. "As root" may not mean much.
[11:20] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: I don't know what to say... I wish I knew what happened!
[11:20] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Ahh.  I'd hope that would translate to "sudo" to anyone capable of running apt-get via CLI.  But... you know what they say...
[11:20] <hopeless8009> maxwellian, I understand root i am a noob but i do have a degree in this
[11:20] <Spaztic_One> anyway, i;m in bed now, so I;m going to commence with the sleep cycle
[11:20] <IConrad01> carlos_: What happens when you mount the *.iso via Nautilus?
[11:20] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: I mean, if that's all it does, then it's nothing that can't be done with free software and they choose to make it Windows-specific for no real reason. I thought there was some kind of trade secret stuff in it
[11:20] <IConrad01> I.e.; navigate-to and right-click
[11:20] <Spaztic_One> haha, yhea, who knows
[11:20] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Congrats, hope it keeps working!
[11:20] <Spaztic_One> yep yep
[11:20] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: and I'm not doubting you in the least, btw
[11:20] <Spaztic_One> maybe later we can try and figure whats going on
[11:21] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: The service, and the executables, and **supposedly** it makes changes at the BIOS level.
[11:21] <IConrad01> It's all bullshit.
[11:21] <AmberJ> erUSUL: Ok. let me see.
[11:21] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: First thing would be to check your IP address.
[11:21] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Whether its a 114
[11:21] <carlos_> IConrad01: Well I haven't tried that yet have I xD
[11:21] <Spaztic_One> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: I've had three laptops "protected" w/ Lo/Jack stolen.  Not one was ever recovered.  It's been a year.
[11:21] <Spaztic_One> broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <IConrad01> carlos_: It might be easier.  Just sayin'. :)
[11:21] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: You didn't assign it?
[11:21] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, in other words sudo
[11:21] <Spaztic_One> mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <Spaztic_One> nope
[11:21] <carlos_> IConrad01: How would I do that now?
[11:21] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Yes.  For your purposes "as root" == "sudo"
[11:22] <Spaztic_One> default route and primary DNS are <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:22] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Awesome, then your router gave you the IP you wanted it to!
[11:22] <IConrad01> carlos_: Open up your file manager / browser -- i.e.; double click on a folder.
[11:22] <Spaztic_One> secodary DNS is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:22] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: I still have no idea how you're allowed to use those IPs, but at least it's working.
[11:22] <Spaztic_One> and yea
[11:22] <IConrad01> carlos_: Navigate to where the *.iso file is stored.  Then right-click and choose "open with archive mounter"
[11:22] <IConrad01> And BAM -- one mounted *.iso.
[11:22] <Spaztic_One> I thought the Automatic DHCP sounded rightwhen oyu guys were talking about it
[11:22] <Spaztic_One> and thats what this one is set to
[11:22] <erUSUL> !iso | carlos_
[11:23] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok o found the files can you plz tell me what im about to install on my server
[11:23] <Spaztic_One> compters are weird, somehow magically knowing the type of connection and stuff
[11:23] <Spaztic_One> lol
[11:23] <Spaztic_One> anyway
[11:23] <lol-hack> hi
[11:23] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One, In general, it IS right.  I was going for manual because I thought your Ubuntu wasn't letting you take an illegal address form the router. :)
[11:23] <oussama> ba333
[11:23] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: It's like the network-manager program, but is a competing offering.
[11:23] <AmberJ> erUSUL: I guess the script is unloaded now. In case it's not, please ping me.
[11:23] <Spaztic_One> ah
[11:23] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: "wicd" stands for "wireless internet connection daemon."
[11:23] <pepper_haze> Hi, I am having trouble installed xen on Ubuntu 10.04
[11:23] <oussama> hey there
[11:23] <Spaztic_One> well, it was set to share or something before
[11:23] <oussama> i'o sono master
[11:23] <erUSUL> AmberJ: well; not really my problem
[11:23] <DocPlatypus> I'm beginning to wonder if this laptop just does not like 10.04
[11:23] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Yes, the ad hoc thing is a problem.
[11:23] <ranjan> any body here used HylaFAX ??
[11:23] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Found that out just after you left.
[11:24] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, do you mind walking me through the rest plz
[11:24] <lol-hack>  hi
[11:24] <Spaztic_One> yeah, no clue what adhoc vs infrastructure are
[11:24] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: PEBKAC.  The Code Is Always Right.  the Problem is ALWAYS PEBKAC.
[11:24] <pepper_haze> can, anyone help me, I am trying intall the desktop virsion of Xen on Ubuntu 10.04 and it says I don't have all the dependacies.
[11:24] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Infrastructure is for access points, like your router.
[11:24] <oussama> hey there i have problem with may w3af
[11:24] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Ad hoc  is more like you're sharing the connection between your desktop and laptop.
[11:25] <lol-hack> ls
[11:25] <Spaztic_One> ah... that kinda makes sense
[11:25] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Anyway, come back when you're not a zombie to figure out why you have to reload those modules every time.
[11:25] <oussama> can i have some help
[11:25] <lol-hack> ls -la
[11:25] <Spaztic_One> ok
[11:25] <erUSUL> !details | oussama
[11:25] <oussama> ok
[11:25] <Spaztic_One> night max, thanks for your help, or at least your time since we don't know why it decided to start working =)
[11:26] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: You're welcome for either. :)
[11:26] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Gimme a sec
[11:26] <maxwellian> Spaztic_One: Night!
[11:26] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Ack! You'll also need "wicd-curses"
[11:26] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, NP thank you much your a big help
[11:26] <oussama> i download w3af from sourceforge for ubuntu and when i extract the archive and run the w3afgui she d'asent work*
[11:26] <IConrad01> That's the actual CLI "frontend" for wicd
[11:27] <carlos_> IConrad01: CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[11:27] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok i mounted my hardrive in the server already how do i unmount so i can move it over
[11:27] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: Download the .deb the same way you did the other one.
[11:27] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Do you not have any USB drives?  These *.deb files are **not** that big...
[11:27] <bartj> can one increase the size of a root partition *only* if unallocated space follows it ?
[11:28] <IConrad01> bartj: You can only expand a partition into unclaimed space on the table.
[11:28] <IConrad01> bartj: So you'll have to shrink another partition in order to expand the /boot
[11:28] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, no im sorry i do not
[11:28] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: As long as they're on your drive, that's all that matters.
[11:28] <pepper_haze> can anyone here help me, I am having problems with install packages on 10.04
[11:28] <maxwellian> oussama, What happens when you run the gui?
[11:28] <IConrad01> pepper_haze: Are you connected to the internet?
[11:28] <antonio_> hi in bash scripting can i assign to a variable: a=ifconfig | grep eth0
[11:29] <Viking667> ... huh?
[11:29] <antonio_> ??
[11:29] <pepper_haze> LOL, IConrad01 I wouldn't be chatting here if I wasn't
[11:29] <Viking667> oh.
[11:29] <oussama> just nothing
[11:29] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, so its safe to just disconnect the external hardrive form the server
[11:29] <IConrad01> pepper_haze: On the machine in question.  You never know.
[11:29] <Viking667> there's a BashFAQ for that, I suspect.
[11:29] <maxwellian> pepper_haze: Sometimes people have two machines in order to fix things.
[11:29] <bartj> IConrad01: I have 53 GB unallocated space and the "/" partition is 15GB
[11:29] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: I don't know your configuration.  Basically you need the *.deb files accessible to the machine with the WiFi we want to configure.
[11:30] <IConrad01> bartj: I believe they need to be contiguous space.
[11:30] <erUSUL> antonio_: a=$(ifconfig | grep eth0)
[11:30] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: You moved the .deb file onto an external drive from your Internet-ready machine, moved the drive over to the server, and now you want to unmount the drive from the server?
[11:30] <IConrad01> antonio_: Basically go with Viking667's answer.  But erUSUL is the specific case.
[11:30] <erUSUL> bartj: i would move the home partition to the 53 GiB partition
[11:31] <erUSUL> !separatehome | bartj
[11:31] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Once you install the *.deb files you don't need the external drive to remain attached. That is absolutely correct.
[11:31] <welcome> emulator.
[11:31] <pepper_haze> IConrad01, I am trying to install ubuntu-xen-desktop with synaptic and it says I don't have all the dependacies, I think I don't have the ppa(?) or something to install it, I think this is a flaw with the packages with 10.04
[11:31] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Should he umount it?
[11:31] <Agan_squiddy> is catalyst provide a better power savings feature than xf86-video-radeon?
[11:31] <welcome> what is the emulator.  ?
[11:31] <bartj> I want to allocate 30 GB of the unallocated space to the / root partition
[11:32] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Unmounting a drive before physically removing it is always advisable.
[11:32] <carlos_> IConrad01: when I opened it in nautilus I got this message: CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[11:32] <IConrad01> carlos_: As in, the CD itself isn't?  Bizarre.
[11:32] <kickingintender> hey iam getting trouble with installation
[11:32] <igoryonya_> hello, how do I upgrade a distro? I've got a new version Ubuntu 9.10 DVD to upgrade from 9.04, I added the 9.10 DVD distro and all of the 9.10 Repo DVDs to Software Sources, then I go to Update Manager, click on the "New Distro available 9.10" Upgrade, and it goes to download the upgrade from the internet instead of from DVDs. How do I make it upgrade from the DVDs?
[11:32] <carlos_> Iconrad01: I don't have a CD, I'm trying to mount it
[11:32] <jmkgreen> so anyone else found cifs in 10.04 completely hosed?
[11:32] <welcome> hey
[11:32] <kickingintender> ubuntu doesnt recognize my partitions nor xp
[11:32] <IConrad01> pepper_haze: Well... try browsing launchpad for Xen?
[11:32] <welcome> i need help
[11:32] <jmkgreen> mine's unusably slow
[11:32] <carlos_> Iconrad01: mount the image without a CD
[11:32] <maxwellian> !details | welcome
[11:32] <IConrad01> jmkgreen: I keep getting new and mysterious issues with it.
[11:32] <aretrfre34> can dpkg commit dist reinstall?
[11:33] <IConrad01> carlos_: Sorry, the *.iso file.
[11:33] <jmkgreen> IConrad01: I was find until yesterday morning. Now I can't get past server timeout issues
[11:33] <carlos_> Iconrad01: yes, I don't understand it
[11:33] <carlos_> :p
[11:33] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok i have all the files i need on my exteranl drive attached to the computer what now
[11:33] <kickingintender> ubuntu doesnt recognize my partitions nor xp
[11:33] <IConrad01> carlos_: Try googling around for a tool that detects filesystem format?
[11:33] <IConrad01> O_o
[11:33] <jmkgreen> IConrad01: the server is perfectly fine in fact
[11:33] <welcome> how to install the emulator ?
[11:33] <carlos_> Iconrad01: ye ok thanks, I'll do that later, lunch time now :D
[11:33] <jmkgreen> IConrad01: This is my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/600565
[11:33] <carlos_> Iconrad01: thanks for everything
[11:33] <California_Kid> greetings
[11:34] <IConrad01> carlos_: Sorry. lol
[11:34] <IConrad01> :)
[11:34] <maxwellian> welcome: What emulator?  What are you talking about?
[11:34] <jmkgreen> IConrad01: look familiar at all?
[11:34] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Basically we're treating the external drive like a USB pendrive.
[11:34] <IConrad01> So just run dpkg -i /path/to/NameOf.deb
[11:34] <antonio_> erUSUL i tried a=$(ifconfig | grep eth0) and bash says: "eth0 command not found"
[11:34] <welcome> i saw in the website  "Ubuntu with an emulator."
[11:34] <California_Kid> hey just curious if anyone would have any info..I registered my name when I was on freenode server. but when I Identify it doesn't recognize the password. but its correct
[11:35] <erUSUL> antonio_: you typed something wrong
[11:35] <hopeless8009> IConrad01,  yes but i dont how to get to the files
[11:35] <maxwellian> California_Kid: This is not the best channel for that.
[11:35] <igoryonya_> How do I upgrade a 9.04 vertion to to 9.10 from the DVD distro?
[11:35] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Ahhhhhhh...
[11:35] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i thank it mounted when i pluged it in sorry
[11:35] <California_Kid> just checking, I read it on a forum that someone may know in ubuntu
[11:35] <erUSUL> igoryonya_: you need the alternatecd
[11:35] <erUSUL> !alternate > igoryonya_
[11:35] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: We want it mounted for now.  Otherwise it can't read the files.
[11:35] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, sorry im still getting my feet wet
[11:35] <erUSUL> !upgrade | igoryonya_
[11:36] <igoryonya_> erUSUL: what does that mean?
[11:36] <rethus> can i use gnome-applets on xfce ?
[11:36] <KnightStalker> !alternate > KnightStalker
[11:36] <maxwellian> California_Kid: There is probably a help channel for freenode.
[11:36] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: execute "sudo mount"  -- that'll tell you where the new device is mounted at.
[11:36] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok so how do i mount it
[11:36] <kickingintender> problem with my partition table
[11:36] <California_Kid> max: dont worry its all good..no big deal
[11:36] <bartj> here is a snapshot of how my disk usage is - http://imgur.com/mvvMZ
[11:36] <welcome> How To Install Cedega ?
[11:36] <m4t> i applied 0001-trace-add-trace-events-for-open-exec-an.patch and enabled CONFIG_FTRACE=y and CONFIG_ENABLE_DEFAULT_TRACERS=y. ureadahead will write to /var/lib/ureadahead if i run it after say, doing 'find /'
[11:36] <California_Kid> max: thanks though
[11:36] <kickingintender> how can i correct
[11:36] <m4t> but at boot it writes nothing. is there some way to debug it? perhaps have it log to a file?
[11:36] <erUSUL> igoryonya_: that the desktopCD (livecd) can not be used to upgrade
[11:36] <bartj> can you guys please have a look and tell me how to increase the root partition ?
[11:36] <bartj> is it even possible ?
[11:36] <IConrad01> jmkgreen: Nope, sorry.  Not anything like any of mine. lol
[11:36] <jmkgreen> fair enough
[11:37] <California_Kid> peace
[11:37] <welcome> How To Install Cedega ?!
[11:37] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i dont see where its at
[11:37] <bubuzzz> is there any way to close the terminal without closing the application ?
[11:37] <bartj> IConrad01: please have a look at my partition table - http://imgur.com/mvvMZ and let me know if it is possible to increase the root partition
[11:38] <IConrad01> bartj: Try moving your partition to the end of the disk.
[11:38] <bartj> you mean the root partition ?
[11:38] <IConrad01> Failing that... make a new partition inside your extended partition, copy the root partition into it...
[11:38] <erUSUL> bubuzzz: diown the app or launch it with nohup
[11:38] <welcome> there is anther channel for the ubuntu applications ? ?
[11:38] <erUSUL> bubuzzz: disown*
[11:38] <erUSUL> !wine | welcome
[11:38] <maxwellian> welcome: You're trying to install Cedega?
[11:38] <IConrad01> Then delete your original root partition, and make a *new* partition at the end of the disk and use it as root-mount.
[11:38] <coz_> welcome,  not to my knowlege   which applications are you thinking about
[11:39] <kickingintender> no help here
[11:39] <IConrad01> bartj: Wait, I'm an idiot.
[11:39] <kickingintender> ????????
[11:39] <IConrad01> bartj: you only have 3 "primary" partitions, and sda devices can have four.
[11:39] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, whats the issue?
[11:39] <welcome> yea
[11:39] <igoryonya_> erUSUL: but I did somehow upgraded 8.10 to 9.04 from the DVD distro.
[11:39] <kickingintender> problem with my partition table
[11:39] <kickingintender> ubuntu doesnt recognize my partitions nor xp
[11:39] <IConrad01> Just make a new partition at the end of your disk, make it as large as you like, and then copy /dev/sda1 into it, and change which one is root.
[11:39] <welcome> i am trying but it no works, How To Install Cedega then ?
[11:40] <bartj> IConrad01: why what is wrong ?
[11:40] <erUSUL> igoryonya_: maybe that DVD includes alternate cd...
[11:40] <IConrad01> kickingintender: look up reinstalling GRUB via LiveCD.
[11:40] <hopeless8009> IConrad01,  you still there?
[11:40] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Sorry, distracted.
[11:40] <maxwellian> welcome: Did read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:40] <IConrad01> Back to you now, hopeless8009.
[11:40] <maxwellian> hopeless8009: He's clearly still here, helping 15 people at a time...takes a minute. :)
[11:41] <kickingintender> no ....its fresh install and ubuntu doesnt recognize my partitions
[11:41] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Even for ADD aspies at 4:00 AM.
[11:41] <welcome> its not free ?
[11:41] <bartj> IConrad01: well...how does one go about making a partition as root ?
[11:41] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, does ubuntu starts normaly?
[11:41] <welcome> i thought everything on liunx for free !?
[11:41] <IConrad01> bartj: ... there are a lot of gparted tutorials out there, many of which with visual walkthroughs.
[11:41] <abhi_nav> welcome, not 'everything'
[11:41] <IConrad01> I'd suggest googling for 'em.  :)
[11:41] <welcome> i mean the softwere
[11:41] <sinistrad> Anyone know in kdenlive how to do a transition between clips and also have a text overlay (title text)? My output goes black when I hit the overlay. I have a photo of my project --> http://imagebin.ca/view/l-LVIT4.html
[11:41] <abhi_nav> welcome, majority of time you are paying for the 'service' not for the product
[11:42] <erUSUL> bartj: again; i think that your best option is to move /home to the 53 giB partitions and leave root where it is
[11:42] <erUSUL> !separatehome | bartj
[11:42] <IConrad01> Lost hopeless8009. :-/
[11:42] <IConrad01> erUSUL: his /home **is** separate.
[11:42] <maxwellian> IConrad01: He left?
[11:42] <IConrad01> maxwellian: His connection dropped.
[11:42] <erUSUL> bartj: how did you managed to fill up a 15 GiB root partition ?
[11:43] <kickingintender> abhi_nav problem is that i dont even have installed ubuntu for this issue
[11:43] <IConrad01> "Connection dropped by peer"
[11:43] <kickingintender> i want 2 dual boot xp and ubuntu
[11:43] <pepper_haze> how do you install packages from launchpad?
[11:43] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, I am not getting your issue. can yuo clearly specify?
[11:43] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Ah, hopefully he'll come back.  I want to learn about setting up networks the way he needs to.
[11:43] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, ok you want to dual boot. so is xp currently installed and running?
[11:43] <bubuzzz> erUSUL: nohup works but it sill ask me when i close the terminal. Application still close when i press Ctrl + C
[11:43] <IConrad01> maxwellian: wicd-curses is TUI.
[11:43] <IConrad01> Easy-peasy.
[11:43] <bartj> erUSUL: I installed a huge database on the root partition
[11:44] <TYRANNASAURUS>
[11:44] <TYRANNASAURUS>
[11:44] <FloodBot2> TYRANNASAURUS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <IConrad01> bartj: Can't you relocated it?
[11:44] <kickingintender> i have 80 gb hdd want 2 install xp and ubuntu but ubuntu doesnt recognize my partitons
[11:44] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Cool. :)
[11:44] <pepper_haze> IConrad01, I went and found packages I need, but I don't know how to install them from launchpad
[11:44] <IConrad01> pepper_haze: They're PPAs
[11:44] <abhi_nav> only two lies of spam?
[11:44] <kickingintender> i have installed xp and working on it
[11:44] <erUSUL> bubuzzz: nuhup and & at the end i.e. $ nohup firefox &
[11:44] <pepper_haze> IConrad01, how do I install them?
[11:44] <IConrad01> Basically, somewhere on the PPA's home page should be a link like "ppa:so-and-so/ppa"
[11:45] <bubuzzz> ok. Work perfectly. Thank you very muchg
[11:45] <maxwellian> kickingintender: Start from the beginning. You had a working installation of Windows XP?
[11:45] <maxwellian> kickingintender: Then what did you do?
[11:45] <IConrad01> add that from Synaptic - Settings - Repositories - Other Software "+ add"
[11:45] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, i suggest you go to xp and from there make a free space (not formated) for ubuntu. and then go to ubuntu installation. it wll detect that free partition and then install buntu there
[11:45] <IConrad01> Use that "ppa:so-and-so" line as the thing to go in the field that'll pop up with.
[11:46] <IConrad01> And then reload synaptic and give the install of Xen another whirl.
[11:46] <IConrad01> You're basically adding pointers for Synaptic to resolve the dependencies on its own with.
[11:46] <welcome> welcome, majority of time you are paying for the 'service' not for the product ,
[11:46] <welcome> but in the windows i dont pay but i get a crack for the games  , and the softwere free
[11:46] <bartj> erUSUL: but your suggestion would involve moving the /tmp and the /swap partition to the right!
[11:47] <IConrad01> pepper_haze: Does it *have* to be Xen, by the way?
[11:47] <maxwellian> welcome: Nobody's here to talk to you about stealing software.
[11:47] <maxwellian> welcome: Is there something you don't understand about that page I linked for you?
[11:48] <welcome> i got it
[11:48] <IConrad01> Well, no more hopeless8009 it looks like.
[11:48] <IConrad01> Ahh, well.
[11:48] <maxwellian> welcome: Someone else mentioned wine, which IS completely free.
[11:48] <IConrad01> Hopefully he'll figure out how to get at and install those *.deb's and work it out from there.
[11:48] <IConrad01> ... I doubt it, sadly.
[11:49] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Not in a million years.
[11:49] <erUSUL> bartj: well my suggestion try to avoid having to move or resize anything; thus reducing the chance of data loss
[11:49] <maxwellian> IConrad01: You hadn't even gotten to the hard part yet.
[11:49] <welcome> yea i see the wine in the website they said not all the softwere work on it right ?
[11:49] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Well, I did keep mentioning dpkg -i /path/to/NameOf.deb
[11:49] <erUSUL> bartj: i that the db is somewhere in /var/ why not move var to that 53GiB space ?
[11:49] <maxwellian> welcome: That's right.  This is also true of Cedega.  They're emulators, not everything is going to work.
[11:49] <IConrad01> welcome: Of course not.  It's like twenty guys trying to replicate the work thousands.
[11:50] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Argh.  WINE is not an emulator.
[11:50] <IConrad01> WINE *is* an emulation in the sense that it replicates the API of Windows.
[11:50] <bartj> Currently there are two solutions ?
[11:50] <IConrad01> But it is a genuine implementation, and is thus not an emulator.
[11:50] <IConrad01> Cedega, on the other hand, *IS* an emulator.
[11:50] <bartj> 1. Move the /root partiton to the unallocated partition and make that as the root
[11:51] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Geez, it's not like your point is contained IN THE NAME of the software... ;)
[11:51] <bartj> 2. Move all the partitions to the right, thus increasing the size of the root partition
[11:51]  * maxwellian bonks himself on the head
[11:51] <bartj> erUSUL: right ?
[11:51] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, you still there i got disconnected
[11:51] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: I am!
[11:51] <maxwellian> welcome: Go here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:51] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Execute that same command to find the *.deb files...
[11:51] <IConrad01> " sudo find / | grep wicd "
[11:51] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i have no idea how to mount a drive or anythign about it
[11:52] <erUSUL> bartj: did not follow everything said. just offered my solution
[11:52] <maxwellian> welcome: You can search for your app there and see how well it's supported.
[11:52] <IConrad01> And... he's out again
[11:52] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Whoops. :)
[11:52] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Not only is it in there, it's in there an infinite number of times.
[11:52] <IConrad01> By the way -- google for "recursion" and then check out the "did you mean"
[11:53] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Ha...good point. :)
[11:53] <IConrad01> No, seriously -- do it
[11:54] <IConrad01> bartj: Your easiest bet is to move all other partitions to the right...
[11:54] <welcome> okay thxs anyway i have to leave now :D
[11:54] <IConrad01> bartj: And then expand your /dev/sda1 partition.
[11:54] <welcome> bye
[11:54]  * IConrad01 isn't even going to mention Logical volumes
[11:55] <IConrad01> ... shizen.
[11:56] <bartj> IConrad01: I like the moving /root partition to the unallocated space and making that the root better ?
[11:56] <IConrad01> bartj: Well, yes.  You should be able to just copy /dev/sda1 to the unallocated space... and then expand that.
[11:56] <IConrad01> Though that will leave unallocated space at the beginning of your drive...
[11:57] <IConrad01> maxwellian: By the way -- my root partition is 20 GB strong right now.
[11:58] <IConrad01> (20 GB of 75)
[11:58] <maxwellian> IConrad01: You have a separate home partition?
[11:58] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Separate physical drive.
[11:58] <maxwellian> IConrad01: What the hell do you have on the root partition?
[11:58] <IConrad01> With 140 GB of 250 consumed.
[11:58] <IConrad01> maxwellian: My /boot partition is separated as well.
[11:59] <maxwellian> IConrad01: That's a good setup.  Easy to fix if something goes wrong.
[11:59] <IConrad01> Wait... I'm a fuckin' moron.
[11:59] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Easier, anyway.
[11:59] <IConrad01> How the devil did I confuse my Windows partition for my Linux?
[11:59] <IConrad01> Failtrain == me.
[11:59] <maxwellian> Oh, that's embarrassing.
[11:59] <IConrad01> I'm at 9 GB of 140.
[11:59] <IConrad01> O_O
[11:59] <MohammadRRR> Hi , All of applets disappeared and i get this error : http://pastie.org/1027945 .
[12:00] <IConrad01> maxwellian: The sad thing is that I'm thinking about doing a total system wipe and starting over.
[12:00] <maxwellian> I have one drive, I think the whole thign is forty gigs.
[12:00]  * maxwellian gasps.
[12:00] <slow-motion> hi
[12:00] <IConrad01> Since I just got my RHCT and now I'm eyeballing Logical Volumes and software RAID.
[12:00] <Dat001> hi slow
[12:01] <maxwellian> IConrad01: RHCT?
[12:01] <IConrad01> Hell... it's not like I'd be sacking anything.  I've got 2 TB of local storage on my media server.
[12:01] <maxwellian> MohammadRRR: Applets in Gnome?
[12:01] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Red Hat Certified Technician
[12:01] <MohammadRRR> maxwellian: Yes
[12:01] <maxwellian> IConrad01: T-t-t-terabytes?
[12:01] <IConrad01> Yup.
[12:01] <MohammadRRR> i have also reinstall it but no change ....
[12:02] <IConrad01> Set me back $100 apiece, a year and a half ago.
[12:02] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Man, I'm stuck in the early 2000's.
[12:02] <IConrad01> MohammadRRR: What application are you using, again?
[12:02] <milk> hey i need help. i uninstalled libgtk and now i cant install it again because the synaptic package manager is gone
[12:02] <IConrad01> maxwellian: They make NAND flash bigger than your HDD nowadays.
[12:02] <IConrad01> I just heard about a 64 GB NAND chip.
[12:02] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Thanks, I didn't have enough dirt in my eyes.
[12:02] <maxwellian> IConrad01: That's perfect, thanks.
[12:02] <MohammadRRR> IConrad01: gnome-pannel , gnome-applet
[12:02] <MohammadRRR> *gnome-panel
[12:03] <maxwellian> milk: Ouch, that hurts. :)
[12:03] <milk> yep
[12:03] <maxwellian> milk: What'd you go and do that for?
[12:03] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I'm eyeballing a phone w/ 8 GB of internal storage.
[12:03] <IConrad01> And a microSD card slot expandable to 32 GB.
[12:03] <milk> i was trying to install another version or somthing
[12:03] <milk> didnt know this would happen
[12:03] <IConrad01> (I.e.; 32 + 8 )
[12:03] <maxwellian> IConrad01: My phone bitches at me when I get up to 100 text messages.  Inbox and outbox.
[12:04] <IConrad01> milk: There's a chance the old one is still in your apt-cache
[12:04] <IConrad01> milk: That being said -- you might have luck trying apt-get install libgtk over again.
[12:04] <milk>  so what do i do ? :))
[12:04] <maxwellian> milk: Do you have a record of everything that was removed?
[12:04] <IConrad01> sudo find / | grep libgtk | xargs -I X sudo dpkg -i X
[12:04] <maxwellian> milk: If Synaptic was removed, it probably wasn't all.
[12:05] <IConrad01> That's assuming it's still on there.
[12:05] <abhi_nav> i installed mail notification. it works for gmail. about hotmail it gives some error about getlive. do i need to configure gelive manually?
[12:05] <milk> nope
[12:05] <maxwellian> milk: "Nope", no record?
[12:05] <milk> yes no record :((
[12:05] <IConrad01> MohammadRRR: Try sudo -i "apt-get purge gnome-panel && apt-get install gnome-panel"
[12:06] <IConrad01> Hopefully that won't throw dozens of apps at you. :-/
[12:06] <neil_d> where is the terminal PATH setup?  I installed a package now the PATH has the same thing twice..
[12:06] <abhi_nav> anyone help adding live account to mail notification, please?
[12:06] <IConrad01> neil_d: ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[12:06] <IConrad01> milk: What's in /var/log/messages ?
[12:07] <IConrad01> actually...
[12:07] <IConrad01> var/log/apt
[12:07] <IConrad01> specifically:  less /var/log/apt/term.log
[12:07] <IConrad01> (As sudo)
[12:08] <neil_d> IConrad01: thanks found it.
[12:08] <abhi_nav> whats the working good mail notification ap? for gmail and live accounts?
[12:08] <IConrad01> milk: You should be able to use tail, as well, given how recent it is.
[12:08] <milk> how do i do that ?
[12:08] <milk> im checking the log
[12:08] <IConrad01> milk:  sudo tail /var/log/apt/term.log
[12:08] <IConrad01> It'll show the most recent entries.
[12:09] <gor> привет
[12:09] <maxwellian> Uh, milk, I did a dry run of what would happen if I actually removed libgtk from my system, and literally hundreds of packages were marked for removal.
[12:09]  * abhi_nav ....
[12:09] <IConrad01> maxwellian: He was doing an upgrade.
[12:09] <milk> yeb i know
[12:10] <IConrad01> Upgrades wouldn't do dependency removals like that.
[12:10] <milk> i wasnt watching
[12:10] <IConrad01> It sounds more like the new entry just went bad.
[12:10] <IConrad01> milk:  You **might** just be better off moving /home to a new partition (if not already) and just reinstalling.
[12:10] <daniel> hey guys I have a problem my exaile just sometimes stop playing why?.
[12:10] <milk> damn
[12:10] <IConrad01> Sure, it's the nuclear option.  But it'd be easier overall and take less time.
[12:10] <IConrad01> Than chasing down hundreds of dependencies anyhow.
[12:10] <milk> yeah probably
[12:10] <maxwellian> milk: Are you running the system right now?
[12:10] <milk> yes
[12:11] <maxwellian> milk: WIth Gnome running?
[12:11] <IConrad01> If /var/log/apt/term.log doesn't show **only** the gtk version as having been actually removed.
[12:11] <carlos_> Hey guys, I'm still having problems trying to install sims 3, but still having problems mounting the thing first, I've searched through many a forum and be confused by all of them, can anyone help?
[12:11] <milk> gnome ?
[12:11] <maxwellian> milk: Err, do you have a graphical interface?  Windows?
[12:11] <milk> yes
[12:11] <maxwellian> milk: Then I can't imagine it being that bad...from what I understand, Gnome would depend on libgtk...
[12:12] <IConrad01> maxwellian: He might just not be able to open new sessions.
[12:12] <milk> there are very few things left
[12:12] <IConrad01> Milk: what's in that term.log file?
[12:12] <IConrad01> Lots-and-lots of things?
[12:12] <IConrad01> Or history.log for that matter.
[12:12] <milk> where is it located ?
[12:12] <IConrad01> /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:13] <abhi_nav_> any good mail notificatin program please?
[12:13] <IConrad01> abhi_nav_: I just use Thunderbird.
[12:13] <maxwellian> milk: sudo less /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:13] <carlos_> anyone?
[12:13] <VilleVicious> I'm running 10.04 and it seems to completely ingnore empy cd-rs in my drive, which makes burning cds a problematic. Can any one give me any advice on this?
[12:13] <IConrad01> carlos_: Whatcha after this time?
[12:13] <ubuntu> Good morning, i got a dual boot winds/ubuntu , and iam now runing ubuntu live cd , using gparted to grow ubuntu partition . iam not mounted in none partition , but i can resize nether windowss or ubuntu partition , it only let me shrink the ubuntu, but actually what i need is to grow ubuntu partition . Please help me handle this . thank you very much .
[12:13] <abhi_nav_> IConrad01, how thunderbird gives mail 'NOTIFICtion'? i use thunderbird too. i want that ap to sit on panel and give alert wehn new mail comes
[12:14] <milk> lot of things
[12:14] <carlos_> IConrad01: I'm stuck with everything, I can't find anything on forums to help me trying to mount this thingy
[12:14] <IConrad01> VilleVicious: Does Brasero find 'em?
[12:14] <IConrad01> carlos_: You need the file format.
[12:14] <IConrad01> abhi_nav_: Use alltray to minimize Thunderbird then.
[12:14] <IConrad01> Or else stick w/ Evolution.
[12:14] <carlos_> IConrad01: It's a .ro.iso does that matter?
[12:14] <abhi_nav_> IConrad01, what is that? how to do it?
[12:15] <IConrad01> abhi_nav_: It's an app in the repository.
[12:15] <carlos_> IConrad01: "raw CD image (application/x-cd-image)"
[12:15] <IConrad01> Hrm.
[12:15] <Rogasch> Hello all
[12:15] <ubuntu> Please someone know why i cant grow ubuntu part ?
[12:15] <abhi_nav_> IConrad01, and does evolution automatically does this?  I mean sitting on panel and alerting?
[12:16] <scryption2> how ( with bash ) can i see the keyboard bindings / layout ?
[12:16] <star-dust> hi
[12:16] <VilleVicious> IConrad01: no, it says that insert cd-r to make something other that an cd-image when I try adding files to be burned
[12:16] <maxwellian> milk: If it's a lot of things, a re-install is the best option, I would think.
[12:16] <IConrad01> VilleVicious: It does that with all CD-R's?
[12:16] <milk> now everything froze
[12:16] <IConrad01> milk: Nuke it.
[12:16] <Rogasch> can somebody tell me how i change the folderlink from my homedir /expl: Downloads) to another location?
[12:16] <ubuntu> VilleVicious
[12:17] <maxwellian> milk: Do you have a way of getting your stuff elsewhere?
[12:17] <ubuntu> help me please ? can you ?»
[12:17] <IConrad01> Use a LiveCD to separate your /home partition so your personal settings and the like don't go away.
[12:17] <IConrad01> And then just reinstall your root directory.
[12:17] <carlos_> IConrad01: is that not the file format?
[12:17] <IConrad01> carlos_: No.
[12:17] <maxwellian> Rogasch: What are you trying to do?
[12:17] <Rogasch> is there no other way
[12:18] <abhi_nav> IConrad01, ??
[12:18] <Rogasch> i mounted a folder via sshfs to /mnt/Downloads
[12:18] <ubuntu> IConrad01 that so is for me ?
[12:18] <IConrad01> abhi_nav: ?
[12:18] <abhi_nav> IConrad01, and does evolution automatically does this?  I mean sitting on panel and alerting?
[12:18] <Rogasch> now i want to link my Download folder from home to this
[12:18] <carlos_> IConrad01: oh so how do i find out the file format?
[12:18] <IConrad01> abhi_nav: While running, yes.
[12:18] <FounDthisOut> Hello World .. i get friend CD and boot .. help me install to hard drive ? me no use linux before
[12:18] <abhi_nav> IConrad01, ok
[12:18] <IConrad01> carlos_: I'm not 100% sure.  That's why I suggested googling for linux-based tools for determining filesystem.
[12:18] <abhi_nav> thankyou IConrad01
[12:18] <carlos_> ok
[12:19] <milk> yes
[12:19] <milk> thanks for the help :)))
[12:19] <maxwellian> milk: Good luck!
[12:19] <FounDthisOut> where is new user help channel or this is new user help channel
[12:20] <maxwellian> Rogasch: So you want anything that gets put into your ~/Downloads folder to go into /mnt/Downloads?
[12:20] <Rogasch> yes exactly
[12:20] <ubuntu> gparted help please ,
[12:20] <maxwellian> Rogasch, you want to set up a symlink then.
[12:20] <daniel> hey guys I have a problem my exaile just sometimes stop playing why?.
[12:20] <Rogasch> yes
[12:20] <IConrad01> ubuntu: You're on the LiveCD now?
[12:20] <maxwellian> Oh wait, symlink won't work across filesystems, will it...?
[12:20] <FounDthisOut> help me install ubuntu .. i boot CD
[12:21] <kwabena> FOUND..hwy
[12:21] <kwabena> why
[12:21] <Rogasch> i thougt about a simple softlink but i dont know if its good
[12:21] <ubuntu> _Yes iam in live cd now , and not mounted in none parti
[12:21] <Rogasch> becaus of sshfs
[12:21] <maxwellian> Rogasch, Exactly, a symlink is a soft link.
[12:21] <ubuntu> IConrad01
[12:21] <IConrad01> ubuntu: What's the exact error?
[12:22] <FounDthisOut> kwabena: why
[12:22] <ubuntu> no error it simple dont let me grow ubuntu part , or nether shrink windows part , it say zero space before and after
[12:22] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Not sure how to accomplish this then.  Why not just do the sshfs directly into ~/Downloads?
[12:22] <ubuntu> i want a grow ubuntu part
[12:22] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Remove the ~/Downloads directory (assuming it's empty), and re-do the sshfs to mount it there instead.
[12:22] <carlos_> Iconrad01: File format or filesystem?
[12:22] <maxwellian> Rogasch: No middleman.
[12:22] <ubuntu> it only let me shrink ubuntu part , and that s what i dont want
[12:22] <IConrad01> ubuntu: can you take a screenshot of what gparted is showing you and post it to imgur?
[12:22] <Rogasch> i tried but sometimes my system freeze becaus of that
[12:23] <IConrad01> carlos_: Both, actually.
[12:23] <abhi_nav> hey IConrad01 i used alltray. thanks :)
[12:23] <VilleVicious> I only have Cd-rs made by sony but I've tested a few and no luck, the drive recognizes taleast some previously burned cd-s fine
[12:23] <carlos_> Iconrad01: okies
[12:23] <ubuntu> Iconrad01 post imgur ? yes i can take a screenshoot my friend , do you have imgur link ?
[12:23] <Rogasch> fo example i tried to install a VM from a ISO how is stored on the sshfs folder
[12:23] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Are you sure it's because of that?  What happens exactly?
[12:24] <Rogasch> for about 2min i works fine but then all freeze up
[12:24] <IConrad01> carlos_: Hey!
[12:24] <IConrad01> Have you tried unrar'ing the file?
[12:25] <carlos_> Iconrad01: Hey!!
[12:25] <IConrad01> I just did a little googling and it sounds like your file -- that .ro -- is indicating it's archived as something other than just a *.iso
[12:25] <scryption2> hi there
[12:25] <carlos_> Iconrad01: I can't find anything, jeez I'm such a noob at this >_<
[12:25] <IConrad01> Just apt-get install unrar
[12:25] <ubuntu_> i co teraz
[12:25] <carlos_> Iconrad01: I can find like explanations of the file systems but no tools to read files
[12:25] <maxwellian> Rogasch, you tried to install a virtual machine from an ISO which was stored on the sshfs folder?
[12:25] <IConrad01> Then unrar NameOfFile.ro.iso
[12:26] <scryption2> where can i find the keyboard table ( config file ) so i could disable some for kiosk use?
[12:26] <Rogasch> exactly
[12:26] <wildbat> Rogasch, connection interrupt? did you try with reconnect mount option ??
[12:26] <IConrad01> Give it a shot.
[12:26] <carlos_> Iconrad01: is there nothing in ubuntu software centre
[12:26] <FounDthisOut> i have 54 gib free hd .. how much need ubuntu install ? i boot cd
[12:26] <IConrad01> ubuntu: http://www.imgur.com
[12:26] <Rogasch> i cant because the system totaly freeze
[12:26] <ubuntu> IConrad01 : I am now signin on imgur
[12:26] <Rogasch> i have to make a hard reboot
[12:26] <Agan_squiddy> 7gigs will do the job
[12:26] <IConrad01> ubuntu: You don't need a signin.
[12:26] <IConrad01> You can do anonymous image posting.
[12:27] <FounDthisOut> Agan_squiddy: help me ?
[12:28] <FounDthisOut> Agan_squiddy:  how i give 10 gb to try ? with no loose any main data ?
[12:28] <indus> FounDthisOut, if 54 gb is free  , why not use all of it?
[12:28] <maxwellian> Rogasch: I don't know what happened there, but http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html says that it's recommended not to run as root, and that you should own the mountpoint.
[12:28] <maxwellian> Rogasch: In other words, the mountpoint should be in your home directory.
[12:28] <FounDthisOut> indus i never use before .. i give try .. if i learn ok, i do full ubuntu on laptop
[12:29] <indus> FounDthisOut, 10 gb seems ok then
[12:29] <FounDthisOut> ok how go ?
[12:29] <FounDthisOut> click install on desktop ? i boot is from CD
[12:29] <indus> FounDthisOut, hmm what other operating system is there on this hard disk
[12:29] <Rogasch> maxwellian: well it was. i did not use sudo in the shell
[12:29] <FounDthisOut> windows 7
[12:29] <IConrad01> FounDthisOut: Yes.  The installer process will walk you through that with a sliding bar.
[12:29] <FounDthisOut> ntfs
[12:30] <IConrad01> Alternatively, you **might** want to try the Wubi installer.
[12:30] <maxwellian> Rogasch: How did you mount to /mnt then?
[12:30] <IConrad01> It won't require you to reformat.
[12:30] <indus> FounDthisOut, click on install
[12:30] <IConrad01> It's also on your LiveCD.
[12:30] <FounDthisOut> no drives .. only one big C:\ drive .. i want give 10 gbs from that drive .. ok ?
[12:30] <Rogasch> i changed the chmod to 777
[12:30] <maxwellian> On /mnt?
[12:30] <Rogasch> yes
[12:30] <indus> FounDthisOut, select first option after you finish the first few install screens for language , time etc
[12:30] <FounDthisOut> ok ok plz wait
[12:30] <maxwellian> Yuck, okay.
[12:31] <Rogasch> chmod 777 /mnt -R
[12:31] <Rogasch> why? its not good?
[12:31] <FounDthisOut> [just confirm] i dont lose data right ?
[12:31] <indus> FounDthisOut, no
[12:31] <indus> FounDthisOut, dont worry
[12:31] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Couldn't he just sudo chown: User:User /mnt/sshfsdir ?
[12:31] <ubuntu_> i jak
[12:31] <Agan_squiddy> FoundThisOut: if you only have a big single C:\ drive right now, the best thing to do first is to backup existing data first.
[12:32] <napster> I'm getting error, that "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz   407  Proxy Authentication Required" when I try to do sudo apt-get update
[12:32] <ubuntu_> dobra jedziem z tym koksem
[12:32] <napster> WHat to do now?
[12:32] <FounDthisOut> no can back up its almost 450 gb data on 500 gb hard drive
[12:32] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Yes, but I don't know why he thinks it needs to be under /mnt in the first place.
[12:32] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Maybe that's just where it's already mounted?
[12:32] <maxwellian> IConrad01: He put it there because he thought that would solve another problem he was having.
[12:32] <napster> I'm a newbie so don't know how to fix it!
[12:32] <napster> Can anyone help me?
[12:33] <Rogasch> i tried to figure out why my system freeze
[12:33] <Rogasch> so i relocate the folder
[12:33] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Well, it's there now.
[12:33] <maxwellian> IConrad01: I'm recommending that people don't muck around with giving away permissions normally reserved for root.
[12:33] <IConrad01> Rogasch: ... that... really shouldn't have that effect.
[12:33] <FounDthisOut> ok .. i read every screen full and go .. so lot of time .. brb
[12:33] <indus> FounDthisOut, what ?
[12:33] <IConrad01> maxwellian: If you'll notice, I was suggesting limiting it to the mounted sshfs directory and its subs.
[12:33] <indus> FounDthisOut, where you go
[12:33] <napster> I'm getting error, that "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz   407  Proxy Authentication Required" when I try to do sudo apt-get update
[12:34] <indus> napster, hi what is the proble,
[12:34] <napster> indus: I need to install codecs
[12:34] <napster> or vlc player
[12:34] <napster> :-)
[12:34] <indus> napster, its some temporary problem, try after some time
[12:34] <maxwellian> IConrad01: I did notice, I'm just wondering whether he ever needed to leave the comfort of his home directory.
[12:34] <napster> indus: no
[12:34] <indus> napster, ah are you behind a proxy ?
[12:34] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I'm going with "no", but it's already there so why screw with it?
[12:34] <napster> indus: I don;t understatnd!
[12:35] <IConrad01> napster: How do you connect to the 'net?
[12:35] <indus> napster, what kind of internet do you have
[12:35] <indus> ya same question like IConrad01
[12:35] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Now he wants ~/Downloads to point to his /mnt/Downloads or whatever he called it.
[12:35] <napster> indus: IConrad01 Wireless network
[12:35] <maxwellian> IConrad01: From what I understand, symlink won't do it.
[12:35] <indus> napster, i see this line 407  Proxy Authentication Required
[12:35] <napster> indus: IConrad01 Its my campus network
[12:35] <Rogasch> exacly
[12:35] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Across filesystems.
[12:36] <FounDthisOut> i stuck at step 4 .. it open prepare  partitions screen .. but its all empty .. i click forward ?
[12:36] <IConrad01> napster: There ya go.  They're probably hiding your connection behind a proxy and not informing you.
[12:36] <Rogasch> do you suggest i shoud not do it?
[12:36] <napster> IConrad01: How can I install the codecs then?
[12:36] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Yeah, you can't symlink to an sshfs folder.
[12:36] <maxwellian> Rogasch: I'm only saying that if the sshfs were mounted in your home directory, you wouldn't have this problem.
[12:36] <FounDthisOut> it some error
[12:36] <FounDthisOut> install no go
[12:36] <Rogasch> yea thats what i thougt
[12:36] <zulgaban> hi
[12:37] <Rogasch> than why my system freeze
[12:37] <IConrad01> napster: Gimme a sec.
[12:37] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Try mounting it in your home dir, and doing something simple like download a picture.
[12:37] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Running a VM over sshfs (if that's what you're trying to do) doesn't sound trivial to me, although it may be.
[12:37] <Rogasch> that works fine
[12:37] <napster> IConrad01: Okey, I can access internet via a browser without problems though
[12:37] <segofam> "/topic"
[12:37] <FounDthisOut> ERROR: No root file system is defined. Please correct this from partitioning menu ... i no understand this
[12:37] <ubuntu> IConrad01 : My friend here is picture of gparted screen http://imgur.com/ODww2.png
[12:38] <daniel> hey guys I have a problem my exaile just sometimes stop playing why?.
[12:38] <IConrad01> napster: It's a port issue, not a general connection issue, I am suspecting.
[12:38] <Rogasch> i think maybe because the ISO i want to install is about 4,2 GB
[12:38] <napster> IConrad01: So, what we can do now?
[12:38] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: you try to install ubuntu and are at the partioning menu so ?
[12:38] <IConrad01> napster: run, from CLI, the following:  sudo apt-get update
[12:38] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Do you have a separate partition for your /home
[12:38] <IConrad01> What happens?
[12:38] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  but it stop at step 4 with error
[12:39] <Rogasch> no
[12:39] <indus> napster, ok so its not a direct connection
[12:39] <cell0> how do i install a specific package version? in my case i've installed debhelper 7.0.17 in karmic but need 7.0.50
[12:39] <napster> IConrad01: Same error
[12:39] <FounDthisOut> DasEi: no go install forward
[12:39] <maxwellian> Rogasch: What is your partition setup?
[12:39] <napster> indus: Hmm :-(
[12:39] <indus> FounDthisOut, waitttttttt
[12:39] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: you need least a root and a swap partitoin
[12:39] <IConrad01> ubuntu: You need to shrink /dev/sda1...
[12:39] <indus> FounDthisOut, in 4th step you have 3 options, which one you try
[12:39] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  i have 1 hard disk
[12:39] <IConrad01> Then expand /dev/sda2...
[12:39] <IConrad01> So you can grow /dev/sda5
[12:40] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: that's fine
[12:40] <Agan_squiddy> FounDthisOut: if u stuck and have minimal knowledge at partitioning, i highly recomend to backup first. that way you would't hate linux if something goes wrong.
[12:40] <DasEi> size , FounDthisOut ?
[12:40] <Rogasch> maxwellian: well i have a 5.1 swap and a 60GB ext4 partition
[12:40] <indus> FounDthisOut, why are you attempting to partition without asking for help here?
[12:40] <IConrad01> ubuntu: rule of thumb: Gparted can only grow partitions into "gray space".
[12:40] <IConrad01> Unformatted space, in other words.
[12:40] <FounDthisOut> indus .. what partition ?
[12:40] <indus> FounDthisOut, you said some error
[12:40] <FounDthisOut> friend say click click click and install .. i like boot cd graphic
[12:41] <indus> FounDthisOut, manual partition if you dont know you can lose all data !
[12:41] <ubuntu> but it dont let me shrink windows part . Should i use windows live cd to shrink windows part ?
[12:41] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: you can choose automatic partitioning, takes whole drive then, no prob
[12:41] <FounDthisOut> ya .. i click install ---> step 1 english .. step 2 time zone .. step 3 opened big window
[12:41] <maxwellian> Rogasch, Okay, so you're not running out of space on the partition.
[12:41] <indus> ubuntu i think gparted can shrink it
[12:41] <Rogasch> no
[12:41] <maxwellian> Rogasch: What are you trying to do with the vm?
[12:41] <indus> napster, just open firefox and check internet settings
[12:42] <FounDthisOut> so no install right now ?
[12:42] <napster> indus: Its working fine
[12:42] <ubuntu> indus iam in ubuntu live cd, not mounted and i can resze window part .
[12:42] <ubuntu> i cant , i mean
[12:42] <IConrad01> napster:  Run this one:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep restricted
[12:42] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: you want to use the whole drive and there is no data to be saved on it ?
[12:42] <indus> ubuntu forget live cd , it cant do , use gparted
[12:42] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Are you trying to run it directly?
[12:42] <Rogasch> maxwellian: i wanted to install is openSuse with the newest ISO file i downloades
[12:42] <indus> ubuntu system>admin > gparted and plan your partitions ,
[12:42] <ubuntu> yes gparted from live cd ...
[12:42] <ubuntu> thats what iam using
[12:43] <indus> ubuntu yes, which partition is this
[12:43] <FounDthisOut> DasEi: noo !! only 10 gb of 54 gb free to try ! no want data loss
[12:43] <IConrad01> napster: ack -- make that cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep restricted | grep security
[12:43] <napster> IConrad01: okey
[12:43] <naftilos76> hi, has anyone experienced mouse/keyboard stop responding (not crash). as seen in google lots of people have experienced in Kubuntu 10.04 and some say it is a kernel bug. One has tried giving params to the kernel at boot time which worked for hime but not 4 me! the param he gave was 'i8042.nopnp'. I am in the middle of a crises! please help...
[12:43] <maxwellian> Rogasch: So you're not talking about a virtual machine, you're talking about an ISO that was ripped from a DVD?
[12:43] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: aah, I see, so need manual partitoning, k
[12:43] <Rogasch> maxwellian: i used the function in Virtualbox to mount a iso as CDrom
[12:43] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  guide me step by setp ?
[12:43] <DasEi> yes
[12:43] <FounDthisOut> private ok or here both ok
[12:43] <maxwellian> Rogasch: I don't know anything about Virtualbox, but you can't mount a 4 gig file as a cd.
[12:43] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: let's stay here
[12:43] <Rogasch> no i is as ISO from the opsenSuse page
[12:43] <indus> DasEi, he needs because auto partition with not leave free space i think and format all remaining space as ext3 . not sure on this
[12:44] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Yes you can.
[12:44] <DasEi> indus: got it , thks
[12:44] <IConrad01> maxwellian: VBox makes no distinction between CD's and DVD's when it comes to *.iso files.
[12:44] <guntbert> Rogasch: virtualbox support is in #vbox, you can mount any iso so it looks like a CD for the guest
[12:44] <indus> DasEi, i dont remember exactly this one
[12:44] <Rogasch> thats waht i thougt too
[12:44] <soreau> IConrad01: Why use cat? just grep restricted /etc/apt/sources.list | grep security
[12:44] <FounDthisOut> error says this : No root file system is defined
[12:44] <guntbert> !who | Rogasch
[12:44] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: so you are in the partioning menu now, seeing the 10 gb unallocated ?
[12:45] <indus> FounDthisOut,why are you trying manual partition ?????\
[12:45] <IConrad01> soreau: Habits.
[12:45] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  thats the problem .. i see NOTHING in that window .. its all white
[12:45] <indus> man some people have no patience
[12:45] <FounDthisOut> i paste screenshot somewhere ?
[12:45] <DasEi> indus : 'cause he has data to be saved on the remaining space
[12:45] <soreau> ! paste | FounDthisOut
[12:45] <napster> IConrad01: Command not found!
[12:45] <DasEi> !paste | FounDthisOut
[12:45] <indus> DasEi, hmm as far as i know, ubuntu automatic partition will format remaining space ?
[12:46] <lorenz> Can anyone tell me how to move chat out of mail applet (notification bar)
[12:46] <DocPlatypus> !pastebinit
[12:46] <sarhan> hello world
[12:46] <DasEi> found
[12:46] <indus> DasEi, let me google it' :)
[12:46] <IConrad01> naptster:   CNP the following:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep security | grep restricted
[12:46] <maxwellian> Rogasch: Sorry, I don't know anything about Virtualbox.  Are you trying #vbox?
[12:46] <sarhan> i need you opinion : what is the best twitter client on ubuntu?
[12:46] <daniel> hi guys can someone help me my fans going as hell now. and the gpu is very high why? how do I change it in ubuntu
[12:46] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: how many primary partis are there now ?
[12:46] <IConrad01> Rogasch: I know VBox somewhat
[12:46] <IConrad01> What are you trying to do with it?
[12:46] <DocPlatypus> sarhan: if you follow a smaller number of accounts, try gwibber.
[12:46] <Rogasch> maxwellian: i cant follow waht do you mean with #vbox?
[12:46] <DocPlatypus> I personally just use the web browser with twitter.com
[12:47] <maxwellian> Rogasch, don't worry, answer IConrad01. :)
[12:47] <sarhan> 280 follow :S
[12:47] <soby> anybody here successfully installed Pylucene from the source files??
[12:47] <umc-work> can anyone tell me a good tool of configuring/listing services (cli tool). I saw somewhere a page where one such tool was listed, but I can't find it anymore
[12:47] <sarhan> Docplatypus: pino i a good client?
[12:47] <indus> FounDthisOut, hi
[12:47] <guntbert> Rogasch: for support with virtualbox joint he channel #vbox in this network
[12:47] <guntbert> *join
[12:47] <DocPlatypus> sarhan: never used it
[12:47] <indus> FounDthisOut, can u paste a screen shot of automatic partition window
[12:48] <maxwellian> daniel: What's happening?
[12:48] <indus> !PASTE
[12:48] <Rogasch> guntbert: thank i will do
[12:48] <sarhan> DocPlatypus: thank you for your help :)
[12:48] <p1l0t> Why do I get permission denied when trying to chown a folder with the sudo command?
[12:48] <Rogasch> maxwellian: thanks for your help
[12:48] <sarhan> ciao gays
[12:48] <DocPlatypus> okay
[12:48] <maxwellian> Rogasch: No prob, didn't do much. :)
[12:48] <daniel> well maxwellian my gpu is 52C when I run windows its like 47 and the chasi fans going as hell I had a program in windows which can set the asus fans into a good mode.
[12:48] <DocPlatypus> how would I troubleshoot ldd segfaulting on specific executables?
[12:48] <soby> anybody here successfully installed Pylucene from the source files??
[12:49] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: how many primary partis are there now ?
[12:49] <IConrad01> Rogasch: What are you trying to do with VBox?
[12:49] <indus> DasEi, dont confuse him whith primary and extended :)
[12:49] <maxwellian> daniel: I don't know about anything to manually control your fans.
[12:49] <maxwellian> daniel: Have you tried running top to see what's running so hard?
[12:49] <daniel> ok
[12:50] <daniel> whats that? what do you mean? top?
[12:50] <maxwellian> daniel: Do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:50] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  i see none .. trying to upload at image bin but somehow its not working .. trying imageshack now
[12:50] <daniel> lol yeah ofc :)
[12:50] <IConrad01> FounDthisOut: Use imgur.com
[12:50] <Rogasch> IConrad01: i simply want to install a openSuse dist for testing
[12:50] <daniel> what will I write ?
[12:50] <fl3sh> Hello, how can I edit my boot loader?
[12:50] <maxwellian> daniel: Open one, and type 'top' and press enter.
[12:50] <IConrad01> Rogasch: ahh.
[12:50] <Oer> top = table of processes
[12:51] <maxwellian> Oer: Thanks, I never knew that. :)
[12:51] <DasEi> fl3sh: /etc/default/grub, afterwards sudo update-grub
[12:51] <maxwellian> Oer: Never wondered either, I just got used to weird names.
[12:51] <daniel> maxwellian im in the terminal I used unix for 3 years so the basics are easy.
[12:51] <p1l0t> Why do I get a permission denied error when trying to chown a folder (with the sudo command!?)
[12:51] <fl3sh> DasEi, thank you
[12:51] <Rogasch> IConrad01: maybe i shoud use vmware?
[12:51] <madav> hi all, is here someone who could help me with configuring samba as an ldap pdc for windows 7 clients on ubuntu 10.04?
[12:51] <guntbert> Rogasch: you start the VM already?
[12:51] <indus> fl3sh, what exactly do u want to edit
[12:51] <IConrad01> Rogasch: And all that about sshfs was because the CD *.iso is located elsewhere?
[12:51] <daniel> tell me what to write in terminal . :)
[12:51] <maxwellian> fl3sh, uh, be careful messing with your boot loader.
[12:51] <DasEi> p1l0t: chown -R
[12:51] <DasEi> sudo*
[12:52] <fl3sh> the time out and the default OS boot
[12:52] <soby> p1lot: check the ownership of that file
[12:52] <maxwellian> daniel,: As I said, type 'top' and press enter
[12:52] <p1l0t> It's owned by 1001
[12:52] <daniel> ok
[12:52] <Rogasch> IConrad01: i have a little ubuntu server running with some storage room
[12:52] <DasEi> !who | fl3sh, right there
[12:52] <p1l0t> DasEi: trying -R
[12:52] <daniel> want it in pastebin?
[12:52] <FounDthisOut> DasEi:  thanks ! phew ! http://imagebin.org/103790
[12:52] <Rogasch> IConrad01: thats where i put all my file i dont want on my machine
[12:52] <IConrad01> Rogasch: Okay, is that the same location the VBox is running from?
[12:52] <soby> p1l0t: 1001 is the username??
[12:52] <maxwellian> daniel: No, but do you say anything at the top taking up a lot of CPU?
[12:52] <fl3sh> DasEi, sorry about that
[12:53] <eoke> daniel: You might be interested in powersaved http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[12:53] <Rogasch> IConrad01: thats the location the iso is, yes
[12:53] <daniel> hmm
[12:53] <fl3sh> indus, the timeout and the OS default boot
[12:53] <indus> fl3sh, ah time out , then sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[12:53] <IConrad01> Rogasch: Not just the *.iso but VBox itself as well?
[12:53] <p1l0t> soby: yes 1001:1001
[12:53] <fl3sh> indus, thank you
[12:53] <indus> fl3sh, not sure about the default OS boot though, ask around\
[12:53] <maxwellian> daniel: There should be a grey line with stuff like PID, CPU %, etc.  The first line under that shows the process using the most CPU or memory.
[12:53] <Rogasch> no the vm is saved on a NTFS :P but on my machine
[12:53] <fl3sh> indus, I will
[12:53] <indus> fl3sh, here is some superb documentation for grub 2
[12:53] <indus> !grub2
[12:53] <daniel> not rly
[12:53] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: that's not the pat of interest, we need your current partiton scheme , so go back to manual partition and picture this
[12:54] <soby> p1l0t: no idea mate...sorry
[12:54] <soby> anybody here successfully installed Pylucene from the source files??
[12:54] <madav> well.. actually.. i have done the ldap thing.. but my samba server wont show up on the win7 pc-s.
[12:54] <Rogasch> IConrad01: but i thougt Ubuntu can handle this
[12:54] <maxwellian> daniel: You don't see anything taking up like 90% cpu?
[12:54] <IConrad01> Rogasch: So...
[12:54] <sean74> hi there
[12:55] <daniel> hmm
[12:55] <indus> i cant say this enough, but not knowing some background about partitioning can destroy all your data
[12:55] <sean74> anyone can guide me to customize the ubuntu 10.04 boot splash
[12:55] <daniel> yeah rythmbox
[12:55] <IConrad01> You're running a Windows installation of VBox from Ubuntu using an *.iso located on a remote server?
[12:55] <daniel> omg
[12:55] <FounDthisOut> DasEi: what do u want me to do exactly ? clicking back no go to step 3 back
[12:55] <maxwellian> indus: You really can't say it enough, I'm sure.  People will continue to do it. :)
[12:55] <maxwellian> daniel: ?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> !plymouth  | sean74
[12:55] <indus> FounDthisOut, quit the installation and start f** again
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Hmm No plymouth factoid. odd.
[12:55] <FounDthisOut> indus .. did 2 times. . it sticks at step 4
[12:56] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Is there a way to see what factoids are available?
[12:56] <daniel> rythmbox use loads cpu but thats not permanently because its loading all my tracks.
[12:56] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Without just trying it?
[12:56] <DasEi> FounDthisOut: undo changes, should bring back original state
[12:56] <indus> FounDthisOut, thats ok, on gnome panel, add to panel > force quit applet
[12:56] <indus> FounDthisOut, but no hmm wait
[12:56] <Rogasch> IConrad01: a little confusing: Im running a Ubuntu box where is also the vbox installe. but the files(vbox) a stored on a NFS filesystem. The ISO is on the Server
[12:57] <daniel> do someone know a good snapshot program?.
[12:57] <indus> FounDthisOut, you mean , when you click on quit button on installer, it dont quit ?
[12:57] <maxwellian> daniel: Is it correlated with the high speed fans?  Do the fans stop when it's done?
[12:57] <IConrad01> Rogasch: NFS or NTFS?
[12:57] <Rogasch> NTFS
[12:57] <indus>  FounDthisOut it takes time, leave 10 sec
[12:57] <daniel> I hope so.
[12:57] <p1l0t> soby: you know what it was.. It was a mount directory, I thought it was a physical directory but maybe not
[12:57] <IConrad01> So your filesystem is formatted NTFS but VBox is local to the machine you're currently on?
[12:57] <indus> FounDthisOut, btw, that doenst look like ubuntu 10.04 live cd
[12:57] <FounDthisOut> indus i click quit it quits .. no hangs .. just please listen .. i start installer, the screen in STEP 4 is blank [ WHITE ] .. i see no drive
[12:57] <maxwellian> daniel: So it's still going.  Where is it loading tracks from?
[12:57] <Rogasch> yes
[12:58] <daniel> its loading around 300gb tracks from a drive. to library
[12:58] <indus> FounDthisOut, this is not a 10.04 live cd
[12:58] <indus> not not not
[12:58] <soby> p1l0t: okk....:)
[12:58] <FounDthisOut> indus ok
[12:58] <Rogasch> IConrad01: is that a problem?
[12:58] <indus> FounDthisOut, which ubuntu version is this you try to install ??
[12:58] <IConrad01> Rogasch: Nope, just identifying the situation. :)
[12:58] <maxwellian> daniel: Okay, well, I'm guessing that can be cpu intensive.
[12:58] <Rogasch> IConrad01: ok :)
[12:58] <daniel> yeah
[12:58] <FounDthisOut> indus dont no .. friend give cd .. it boot cd
[12:58] <maxwellian> daniel: You said gpu earlier, was that a mistake?
[12:58] <daniel> maxwellian do you know any good snapshot program?.
[12:59] <indus> FounDthisOut, click on the panel on top , and click help > about
[12:59] <daniel> nope its strange by the way
[12:59] <daniel> the gpu is 52c its to way high
[12:59] <maxwellian> daniel: What's telling you the temp?
[12:59] <omenek> Hi, I got a simple question - when I turn on transparency in terminal it isnt a real transparency, only with the background, not apps below the terminal, how can I get a real transparent terminal?
[12:59] <daniel> 52C maxwellian
[12:59] <indus> daniel, gpu temp of 52 C is completely normal ]
[12:59] <FounDthisOut> Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 8.10- the Intrepid Ibex - released in October 2008
[12:59] <Rogasch> IConrad01: maybe i should simply copy the iso to a local folder and install the VM from there
[12:59] <maxwellian> daniel: How do you know what the temp is?
[13:00] <daniel> I using conky.
[13:00] <indus> FounDthisOut, O M G
[13:00] <IConrad01> Rogasch: And are you running CIFS or NFS for your remote service?
[13:00] <Rogasch> IConrad01: but i dont explains why my system freeze
[13:00] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[13:00] <soby> trying to install jcc for pylucene...but 'm getting this error.      http://paste.ubuntu.com/458281/
[13:00] <tasslehoff> I have 4GB ram, and created a swap partition of 2GB. Was that not very wise? Will I not be able to use suspend?
[13:00] <indus> FounDthisOut, please DO NOT install that version, its old and not supported any more
[13:00] <IConrad01> CIFS/SMB
[13:00] <Rogasch> IConrad01: SMB
[13:00] <FounDthisOut> :(
[13:00] <FounDthisOut> i no have other
[13:00] <indus> FounDthisOut, please download latest ubuntu
[13:00] <indus> FounDthisOut, can you download ?
[13:00] <IConrad01> Okay, so no using VBox directly over network. (It'd work with NFS but NFS is a pain on Ubuntu.)
[13:01] <IConrad01> So sshfs should present it locally.
[13:01] <FounDthisOut> no i tell my friend he is stupid
[13:01] <indus> FounDthisOut, heh ok
[13:01] <iflema> tasslehoff you will not be able to hibernate.
[13:01] <IConrad01> Frankly, I say -- screw it: the disk isn't that large.
[13:01] <IConrad01> Just SCP it over and then remove it after install.
[13:01] <IConrad01> As to why your system froze...
[13:01] <FounDthisOut> this version he use too .. but it work nice his system .. i see it .. it has 3D cube too
[13:01] <IConrad01> Chances are your network couldn't keep up with the install process and this caused a kernel panic.
[13:01] <IConrad01> Just guessing.
[13:02] <Rogasch> IConrad01: mhh ok
[13:02] <indus> FounDthisOut, i know, but ubuntu stop support for this in april 2010 , use new version 10.04
[13:02] <FounDthisOut> indus heh is there 8.10 support room ?
[13:02] <indus> !lucid
[13:02] <FounDthisOut> ok
[13:02] <IConrad01> Rogasch: Since you were using sshfs to serve the *.iso.
[13:02] <IConrad01> What kind of network you got?
[13:02] <asehdev> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and the scroll function on the keypad is not working.. and advice??
[13:02] <FounDthisOut> thanks for time every one
[13:02] <Rogasch> IConrad01: c i cant follow totaly but i think i might know what you mean
[13:02] <indus> FounDthisOut, no we can support installation of it, but later you wont get any updates and other bug fixes
[13:02] <IConrad01> Rogasch: what kind of network are you running?
[13:02] <indus> FounDthisOut, but i do not recommend you install 8.10
[13:03] <indus> FounDthisOut, if you have internet you can download new ubuntu
[13:03] <Rogasch> IConrad01: Waht you mean exactly?
[13:03] <indus> FounDthisOut, you have internet ?
[13:03] <FounDthisOut> indus .. yes
[13:03] <IConrad01> Rogasch: Your local network.  Is it wireless, ethernet?  What?
[13:03] <IConrad01> Is it Wireless G, Wireless N?
[13:04] <FounDthisOut> indus but very very slow line .. i tell friend to download company
[13:04] <Rogasch> IConrad01: ahh, yes its Ethernet
[13:04] <p1l0t> FounDthisOut: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:04] <IConrad01> Rogasch... that should've been fast enough.
[13:04] <omenek> Hello, can anyone tell me how to get a real transparent terminal? Not one that transparents to bg not other apps?
[13:04] <IConrad01> Does your machine's CPU support paravirtualization?
[13:04] <indus> FounDthisOut, ok just ask him to download 10.04 , latest version and you can come here and we help you
[13:04] <Rogasch> IConrad01: yes, so i thought too :)
[13:04] <hopeless8009> can someone explain to me how to mount a device?
[13:04] <IConrad01> omenek: enable 3d graphics.
[13:04] <FounDthisOut> indus thanks very much .. but it take more 2 days
[13:04] <tasslehoff> iflema, ok. shrinking my root partition, and deleting the current swap partition to make a bigger one should do it then, I hope. Ubuntu will automagically detect a new/changed swap?
[13:05] <omenek> - IConrad01, How?
[13:05] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Hello again!
[13:05] <indus> omenek, what do you mean 'real' transparent terminal ?? transparent means you will obviously see the background
[13:05] <indus> FounDthisOut, why
[13:05] <IConrad01> omenek: Install the right driver for your graphics card.
[13:05] <omenek> indus, yes, but I cant see apps below it, only bg, even when on top of other apps
[13:05] <hopeless8009> IConrad01,  bro im sorry i have a satalite connection and it went down
[13:05] <Rogasch> IConrad01: but maybe your right, maybe the system cant handle a install over sshfs
[13:05] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Basically the command is "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"
[13:05] <iflema> tasslehoff yes.. it will
[13:05] <FounDthisOut> indus for download and burn cd to me from friend company is 2 day
[13:05] <indus> FounDthisOut, ok
[13:05] <IConrad01> Rogasch: There's protocol overhead w/ sshfs.
[13:05] <FounDthisOut> take care have fun
[13:06] <arunkumar413> please help me  to debug my network manager.
[13:06] <soby> trying to install jcc for pylucene...but 'm getting this error.      http://paste.ubuntu.com/458281/
[13:06] <indus> omenek, hmm
[13:06] <maxwellian> daniel: Thanks for reminding me of conky, that's cool. :)
[13:06] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, can you brake down that command for me
[13:06] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: In your case, you need to know what the exact device is...
[13:06] <indus> omenek, its fake transparent then :D
[13:06] <omenek> indus, exactly, so im lookin for a way to make it real ;p
[13:06] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Certainly.  *without* the device attached... execute:  "ls /dev"
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> tasslehoff:  you may need to edit your fstab if its been moved to another /dev/sdXX entry
[13:06] <iflema> tasslehoff if you change the location different story, change size OK.
[13:06] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, its a USB external drive
[13:06] <p1l0t> !openoffice > p1l0t
[13:06] <daniel> :) hehe np maxwellian
[13:06] <daniel> :)
[13:06] <Rogasch> IConrad01: i will try to copy the iso and install it from my system
[13:06] <ne0|penguin> !ping
[13:06] <IConrad01> Then, plug it in.  And again execute "ls /dev"
[13:06] <daniel> I gonna install gdesklets or something
[13:07] <Rogasch> IConrad01: thanks for your help
[13:07] <abhi_nav> hello?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> daniel:  google has their applets also that i find handier then gdesklets
[13:07] <IConrad01> hopeless8009:  You're looking for new devices. It'll be something like "sdb1"
[13:07] <daniel> maxwellian Im using ubuntu base system with xdm login manager also fluxbox include dolphin
[13:07] <ne0|penguin> newklear, do you do ctcp ping to me ?
[13:07] <tasslehoff> Dr_Willis, iflema : thanks
[13:07] <IConrad01> hopeless8009:  Maybe sdc if you've got more than one hard-drive in the server.
[13:08] <maxwellian> daniel: Ubuntu base doesn't install a desktop?  You pick your own?
[13:08] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok now what
[13:08] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: You found it?
[13:08] <daniel> dr_willis np I gonna figure out how it works.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Base = very minimal system. No X either i belive
[13:08] <IConrad01> hopeless8009:  What's it called?
[13:09] <daniel> maxwellian I used downloaded ubuntu lucid and didnt chose anything just base system but u have that possible to choose loads stuff like lampp server audio configured system etc.
[13:09] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Thanks.  Good to know.
[13:09] <daniel> *remove used
[13:09] <maxwellian> daniel: How do you like fluxbox?
[13:09] <daniel> I really love it
[13:09] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, do you want it hooked to the computer at this pint
[13:09] <daniel> I can send a screenshot
[13:09] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: hi
[13:09] <daniel> of my setup
[13:09] <maxwellian> daniel: Sure!
[13:09] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Yes.
[13:09] <abhi_nav> hellooooooooooo arunkumar413
[13:09] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i see sdb and sdb1
[13:09] <maxwellian> daniel: Weren't you asking about screenshots a minute ago? :)
[13:10] <DocPlatypus> okay this is frustrating
[13:10] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: do u know how to debug network manager
[13:10] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: So the "sdX#" series ends with sdb1 ?
[13:10] <DocPlatypus> I'm trying to hunt down a corrupt library. ldd segfaults on a whole bunch of things and I'm pretty sure I don't need to reinstall them all
[13:10] <DocPlatypus> I'm pretty sure it's one bad library somewhere
[13:10] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, yes there is an sdb1......but there is also a sdb
[13:11] <daniel> yeah :)
[13:11] <daniel> I fixed it :)
[13:11] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, whats the exact issue?
[13:11] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: That is perfectly normal.  "sdX" refers to the physical device.  "sdX#" refers to the actual partition.
[13:11] <maxwellian> arunkumar413: What is going wrong?  Why do you think there's a problem with NetworkManager?
[13:11] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: So... here's your command.  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[13:11] <daniel> here you go maxwellian --> http://img188.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1gjx.png/
[13:11] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: can connect with my CDMA NIC modem
[13:11] <abhi_nav> 'can'?
[13:12] <daniel> if you press on the picture you see it bigger.
[13:12] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, what is the /mnt part
[13:12] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: cant
[13:12] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, this is doc have all info dig it ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7
[13:12] <maxwellian> daniel: Hey that looks pretty  nice.  You covered up your background image though. :)
[13:12] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: the directory Linux will "host" the files found on that hardware.
[13:12] <daniel> haha oh lol :P
[13:12] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: tried and read many documents no use
[13:13] <maxwellian> daniel: Is fluxbox pretty good on resources?  That's why I have xfce, but I don't like xfce.
[13:13] <daniel> its very fast lightweight
[13:13] <daniel> I used xfce for some days ago...
[13:13] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Since Linux doesn't use "C:\" like Windows, **any** directory can be a "C:\" or "D:\"
[13:13] <maxwellian> daniel: Hmm...intriguing.
[13:13] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: In this case, we're using "/mnt" as that new "D:\"
[13:13] <daniel> but I didnt liked. I wanted to have so much possibles I could that the reason I chosed fluxbox
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  fluxbox is ONLY a window manager. :) xfce is a 'desktop envuroment'
[13:13] <daniel> yup
[13:14] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Ah, so I'd still have to install a lot of stuff. :)
[13:14] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] is it a dialup?
[13:14] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I just discovered that the Lubuntu .iso is less than 600 MB.
[13:14] <daniel> you need a login manager like gnome-session or something to I using xdm a lightweight one too
[13:14] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: it detects my modem but fails to connect to the network.i'm able to connect with wvdial
[13:14] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: yes
[13:14] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, so i created /mnt
[13:14] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Modem-HOWTO
[13:14]  * maxwellian blinks at IConrad01
[13:15] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Now, what's " ls /mnt " show you?
[13:15] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, see if you find your modem here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/
[13:15] <daniel> but I got some few problems left. um..
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  Lubuntu is openbox (similer to fluxbox) + a few extra tools for a very minimal desktop.
[13:15] <maxwellian> daniel: Did you have to install everything, like NetworkManager etc.?
[13:15] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] i have used them. The network manager doesn't show connection. Use Gnomeppp the frontend for wvdial
[13:15] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Specifically it's 521 MB.
[13:15] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, it shows me the files on the hard drive. i have some packages i need to install off of it can you help
[13:15] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: No problem. :)
[13:15] <daniel> no maxwellian I just used sudo apt-get install xorg fluxbox xdm
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  personally for 'light' i use Fluxbox, or windowmaker or icewm  (for the WM) + Rox-filer (for the file maanger)
[13:15] <daniel> that what you need just
[13:15] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: but wvdial is taking more than 3 min to connect
[13:16] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Okay, this is gonna be fancy, but just cut-and-paste it directly from here into your terminal...
[13:16] <daniel> then also a file manager like thunar, nautilus, dolphin, fmaker etc
[13:16] <sinistrad> Anyone know in kdenlive how to do a transition between clips and also have a text overlay (title text)? My output goes black when I hit the overlay. I have a photo of my project --> http://imagebin.ca/view/l-LVIT4.html
[13:16] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, yes install gnomeppp
[13:16] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, I hardly need a file manager, but I guess it comes up sometimes... :)
[13:16] <Alcohol52> arunkumar check the settings
[13:16] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: sudo find /mnt | grep .deb | xargs -I X sudo dpkg -i X
[13:16] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, the computer im talking form isn't the server
[13:16] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: its the same thing with gnomeppp.
[13:16] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[13:16] <maxwellian> daniel: What's handling your internet connection?
[13:16] <abhi_nav> ivano, /j #ubuntu-it
[13:16] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: settings are ok
[13:17] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Argh.  Well, that's xargs -(capital i)
[13:17] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, Have you used any tiled window managers?  I've looked into it, but each one has some major drawback in my eyes.
[13:17] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] you can see what is going on when you type wvdial in commandline
[13:17] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: am able to connect in 9.04
[13:17] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i dont know what you mean
[13:17] <IConrad01> And those " | " are the shift-button+ backslash
[13:17] <daniel> ubuntu ground system .does that but I installed a manager to cause when Im using wireless network (wicd) a easy and powerful one)
[13:17] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Look at the command I just gave you.
[13:17] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] as far as i know it took about 20-30 sec max for me. I don't use now
[13:17] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: sudo find /mnt | grep .deb | xargs -I X sudo dpkg -i X
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i fullscreen everything normally. i dont like the tiled stuff. except for the 'terminator' terminal program
[13:18] <daniel> dr_willis I got problem my music just stops play sometimes. why? It doesnt matter which player I using.
[13:18] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52:for my modem its taking 3 min
[13:18] <maxwellian> daniel: Yeah, I have wicd too.
[13:18] <daniel> its nice :)
[13:18] <IConrad01> Dr_Willis: Terminator is the zhisshizzle.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> daniel:  check dmesg output when it stops. could be Pulse crashing, or some driver issues
[13:18] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, I fullscreen everything too, but I just don't like using the mouse if I can avoid it.
[13:18] <daniel> hmm so I start the app also from terminal to see that?.
[13:18] <IConrad01> Dr_Willis: I have been known to enable X11 forwarding *just* to use Terminator.
[13:18] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] have you seen wvdial.conf file
[13:19] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: ya
[13:19] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, Even having to click the fullscreen button irritates me.
[13:19] <p1l0t> !zhisshizzle
[13:19] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, ok so what now i did the command
[13:19] <p1l0t> lol
[13:19] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: What did it say?
[13:19] <erdem> i am unable to get nvidia drivers running. installed the nvidia-current pkg but after doing nvidia-xconfig Xorg wont start anymore. saying smth like nvidia driver not found
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  most apps support F11 for that. or you can make compiz do it.  or run the maximus program
[13:19] <IConrad01> p1l0t: Really, now. :-P
[13:20] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, it looks like its installing stuff
[13:20] <p1l0t> :P
[13:20] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Once it's done doing its thing... and this is on the server, right?
[13:20] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, it says there were errors
[13:20] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Once it's done doing its thing, run " wicd-curses "
[13:20] <Dissident> My ati radeon fried 10 mins ago. Fan stopped. On my mobile now. Heading off to buy new gpu now. Nvidia is supposedly a bettrr option on linux. Any comments?
[13:20] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Frak.  What errors?
[13:20] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: do u think that running NM in terminal will help to catch the bug
[13:20] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, Hah, compiz.   I'd avoid and stick with ATi which has a prayer of working with free (GPL) drivers
[13:21] <NotEmo> Does anybody here have libflashplayer.so for amd64? Adobe removed the library and now I can't download it D:
[13:21] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] network manage has no role. play around with wvdial conf
[13:21] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, dpkg: dependency problems prevent config of wicd
[13:21] <IConrad01> NotEmo: DO NOT use it.  It has like 40 major security errors.
[13:21] <erdem> DocPlatypus, i remember it beeing the other way around
[13:21] <mika__> hi, i'm setting up an ubuntu server machine which will be a web server to manage support tickets (using otrs)... what should i install on a server for it protection, maintain, tools, etc?
[13:22] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: What files?  You'll have to repeat the process to get those dependencies, I fear.
[13:22] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: what could be the problem
[13:22] <daniel> dr_willis when I start it I get Plug error unable to active plugin magnatune store I found it in plugins but I cant do anything I cant use it or remove hmm check out --> http://img96.imageshack.us/f/snapshot2sx.png/
[13:22] <godbod> erdem > to use nvidia drivers you need to install nvidia xserver
[13:22] <DocPlatypus> erdem: I see free drivers for ATi, nothing for nVidious
[13:22] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: i can connect in 9.04
[13:22] <FounDthisOut> hello again, i have 1 more problem which friend shows .. he says BAD problem .. help me ? http://imagebin.org/103792
[13:22] <p1l0t> Dissident: not sure I have had diffculty getting nvidia drivers in the past... but that was many moons ago maybe things have changed but I use all ATi with Ubuntu
[13:23] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: noveau?
[13:23] <DocPlatypus> IConrad01: doesn't do 3d
[13:23] <IConrad01> DocPlatypus: yet.  But still.  fglrx is OSS.  But right now nVidia's closed-source drivers far outperform ATI's open and closed-source.
[13:23] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] doesn't you see problem while you connect in commandline? Connect from command line
[13:23] <FounDthisOut> fixabe ?
[13:24] <h00k> DocPlatypus: Please watch your language in here and keep it family-friendly
[13:24] <erdem> godbod, i cant find such a pkg
[13:24] <FounDthisOut> fixable problem ? http://imagebin.org/103792
[13:24] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, dpkg: dependency problems configuration of wicd Wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-2 however package wicd-daemon is not configed yet
[13:24] <godbod> let me check it
[13:24] <godbod> private me
[13:24] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: how to connect from command line
[13:24] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Ahh. So we just need the one extra package.
[13:25] <ivo_> #ubuntu-beginners
[13:25] <Alcohol52> just type sudo wvdial. It will connect if your wvdial.conf file is ok.
[13:25] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: So... sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[13:25] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: And then plug the external drive into your network-capable machine and execute sudo apt-get install wicd-daemon --download-only
[13:25] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Just like you did for wicd and wicd-curses
[13:26] <daniel> Hey guys I got this error when im starting rhythmbox -->rhythmbox:24082): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to grab media player keys: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name
[13:26] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: And then just pause there whilst I check something.
[13:26] <e-DIO-t> : back!
[13:26] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: understand my problem.i dont want to use wvdial.i want to use NM
[13:26] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, when i run umont it says its busy
[13:26] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: cd / and then sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[13:26] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, but why not wvdial?
[13:27] <IConrad01> I forgot to tell you to get out of it.
[13:27] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: wvdial is taking 3 or more min. to connect
[13:27] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, and nm ws connecting in less time?
[13:28] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, it still says its busy
[13:28] <IConrad01> Hrm...
[13:28] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: ya,and i used NM in 9.04
[13:28] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] as far as i know network manager does not support wvdial (dialup). use gnome ppp it is equivalent to network manager
[13:28] <DocPlatypus> YAY! I think I may have fixed it
[13:28] <Lefantomedurezo> Hello
[13:28] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, hmm
[13:28] <DocPlatypus> the solution was to just reinstall dependencies until I found the one that was corrupt
[13:28] <Lefantomedurezo> I can't config the fancontrol
[13:28] <Lefantomedurezo> http://www.insectes-net.fr/xylocope/xylocop3.htm
[13:29] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: used gnome ppp also it is same like wvdial but with graphical UI
[13:29] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, also what package do i need that way i can start downlaoding it
[13:29] <Lefantomedurezo> http://pastebin.com/dJZ22yNA
[13:29] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: wicd-daemon
[13:29] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: is there any command to use NM from terminal
[13:29] <IConrad01> Just go ahead and hot-remove the device.
[13:29] <sinistrad_> Anyone know in kdenlive how to do a transition between clips and also have a text overlay (title text)? My output goes black when I hit the overlay. I have a photo of my project --> http://imagebin.ca/view/l-LVIT4.html
[13:29] <IConrad01> Chances of anything wrong are nigh-unto-improbable.
[13:30] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, i got it unmounted
[13:30] <Lefantomedurezo> hawever the bios don't control the fan, because the fan started up at 37°
[13:30] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: or tell  me how to update only NM
[13:30] <Lefantomedurezo> now it start at 50°
[13:30] <Lefantomedurezo> and stop at 44°
[13:32] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/
[13:32] <hopeless8009> IConrad01, is it sudo apt-get install wicd-daemon --download only
[13:32] <IConrad01> hopeless8009: Should be, yes.
[13:32] <IConrad01> Same command you ran to get the other two. :)
[13:33] <erdem> godbod, still not working
[13:33] <erdem> heres the error http://paste.pocoo.org/show/232731/
[13:34] <erdem> nvidia-current pkg is installed. 100%
[13:34] <maxwellian> IConrad01, wicd-curses didn't show up in the repos until 10.04?  Is that right?
[13:34] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I believe it's a recent feature, yes.
[13:34] <godbod> then you need have an another problem
[13:34] <IConrad01> But you could always download it straight from the Debian repos, for older Ubuntu distros
[13:35] <godbod> sorry I can't help
[13:35] <godbod> good luck
[13:35] <Alcohol52> [arunkumar413] i think there is no command line for network manager(current version 0.8) They are scheduling command line for version 0.81. Look at their website.
[13:36] <maxwellian> arunkumar413: IConrad01 is talking about command line for wicd, an alternative to network manager.  Might want to listen in.
[13:36] <arunkumar413> Alcohol52: will reinstalling the nm will solve the problem
[13:36] <erdem> i have nvidia-current installed and still get this error  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/232731/ any ideas?
[13:36] <IConrad01> maxwellian: I moved that guy to pm.  What was the discussion?
[13:37] <IConrad01> erdem: Tried reconfiguring your X.config?
[13:37] <IConrad01> erdem: I forget the nVidia way to do that.
[13:37] <indus> arunkumar413, what is the problem dear
[13:37] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Moved which guy to pm, sorry?
[13:37] <IConrad01> maxwellian: hopeless8009.
[13:37] <godbod> nah
[13:37] <erdem> IConrad01, i did "Xorg -configure" and then "nvidia-xconfig"
[13:38] <klenix> does flashrom support mediatek chipset?
[13:38] <arunkumar413> indus: i cannot connect my BSNL's CDMA NIC to network using NM
[13:38] <maxwellian> IConrad01: Oh.  arunkumar413 appeared to be asking about a command line interface to network manager.
[13:38] <indus> arunkumar413, heh still the same problem :)
[13:38] <IConrad01> maxwellian: Ahhh.  Yeah, wicd-curses will do that.
[13:38] <specialsauce> hey there, i lost the password for my ubuntuforums account. resetting it doesnt help, because the email i registered the account to doesnt exist anymore. is there anything i can do to get access to the account again ?
[13:38] <indus> arunkumar413, does this have a username and password?
[13:38] <hotsauce3737> how to execute an c program on ubuntu 10.04?
[13:38] <arunkumar413> indus: ya
[13:38] <indus> arunkumar413, maybe you need to try pppoeconf
[13:39] <DasEi> hotsauce3737: ./blah.sh
[13:39] <DasEi> hotsauce3737: might have it to make executable before
[13:39] <arunkumar413> indus: is it gnome ppp
[13:39] <abhi_nav> hotsauce3737, gcc fili.c then ./a.out (as per I 'remember')