[07:03] <maino82> JeffATL: apt-cache search is also a good way to find packages that you're not sure of the exact name
[07:03] <zandaa> one question, does ubuntu have firewire support?
[07:03] <HymnToLife> dido > but all your GNOME config files are stored there
[07:03] <hollywoodb> dido`: but there are files there ;) do 'ls -a /home/<user>'
[07:03] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: same story if i go "apt-get install acroread"
[07:03] <runevi> Hmpfh.  Ubuntu found none of my SATA-disks connected to two SATA-controllers.
[07:03] <aleksi> zandaa: yes
[07:04] <HymnToLife> JeffATL > did you enable the universe/multiverse repos ?
[07:04] <runevi> 7 disks in total .. none found by the installer.
[07:04] <exequor> ok, this is the problem when i try running make deb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5576
[07:04] <runevi> Hopefully it'll be able to find it when the system is finnished installing. :-/
[07:04] <dido`> hollywoodb ;) so what i do is copy those gnome config files to a new /home folder (/mnt/187/home) ?
[07:04] <hollywoodb> dido`: one sec
[07:04] <proxosi> would some  guide me on
[07:04] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: in /etc/apt/sources.list?  yes
[07:04] <proxosi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[07:05] <proxosi> dont know step 2
[07:05] <natex> peter_, apt-get install swat
[07:05] <HymnToLife> Jeff > have you ran apt-get update
[07:05] <zandaa> aleksi, my iPod doesn't wanna be mounted through firewire
[07:05] <dido`> i got lots of problems guys, i hope you're patient ppl ;))
[07:05] <jbroome> dido`: well first, the voices in your head, aren't really there. :)
[07:05] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: wait a sec, i may have failed to uncomment what i was supposed to uncomment
[07:05] <slew> how do i change from alsa to oss?
[07:06] <exequor> Stormx2, check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5576
[07:06] <natex> slew, are you sure you need to?
[07:06] <HymnToLife> slew > System W Peferences > Multimeia system selector
[07:07] <skulrid> PPL where do programs instaled with WINE go to??
[07:07] <dido`> jbroome didn't really get that :)
[07:08] <popey> skulrid: usually under .wine
[07:08] <starscalling> er
[07:08] <starscalling> so im running this thing right
[07:08] <starscalling> then it does something wierd
[07:08] <thundr> skulrid, ^ in your home directory (under .wine)
[07:08] <starscalling> so i turn it off
[07:08] <starscalling> so i turn it off<_<
[07:08] <HymnToLife> skulrid > as in windows, to Program Files uner the  rie you use
[07:08] <starscalling> hummm
[07:08] <HymnToLife> the C Drive*
[07:08] <skulrid> ill try
[07:09] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: i ran it yes, but still everything is "Couldn't find package..."
[07:09] <starscalling> ah i remember why i came today :D
[07:09] <starscalling> i seem to only be able to run one sound device.. what can i do to run many?
[07:09] <starscalling> i think esd is going..
[07:09] <HymnToLife> then certainly your sources.list is wrong
[07:09] <HymnToLife> hol on a sec
[07:09] <Oblivion^> is there anything i should know when setting up nVidia twinview?
[07:09] <hollywoodb> dido`: http://pastebin.com/458589 lemme know if any questions
[07:10] <starscalling> yeah esd is going
[07:10] <dido`> hollywoodb right ;) thanks
[07:10] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: thx, i'll look
[07:10] <HymnToLife> JeffATL > replace everything in your sources.list with what's in the file I just sent you
[07:10] <starscalling> eh
[07:11] <dido`> hollywoodb "need to copy everything in /home/ to /mnt/187:
[07:11] <starscalling> so anyone know why i would only be able to run only one sound device?
[07:11] <dido`> hollywoodb i guess it's ok if its /mnt/187/config files
[07:11] <hollywoodb> dido`: no, you'll end up having a /mnt/187/<user> directory, which you need for that partition to properly function as /home/
[07:11] <dido`> hollywoodb oh i get it ;)
[07:12] <proxosi> would anyone mind to guide me on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[07:12] <dido`> hollywoodb didnt understand the last one, but i think i got it
[07:13] <dido`> hollywoodb hum, but i cant see any files in /home (with file browser)
[07:13] <HymnToLife> dido` > press Ctrl+H
[07:14] <dido`> HymnToLife thanks ;)
[07:14] <phlaegel> anybody know for sure whether pci-e nvidia video cards are well supported in ubuntu?
[07:14] <hollywoodb> dido`: they're hidden configuration files... in linux files that start with a '.' are hidden
[07:15] <HymnToLife> I' like to know too phlaegel, anyone ?
[07:15] <mmiikkee12> i have a very off topic question... how do i enable blootbot responding to !whatever instead of having to type the bot's name?
[07:15] <Pauls74462> hi all
[07:15] <hollywoodb> dido`: trust me, to get that partition to act as /home/ you'll need to run all those commands, substituting for the stuff in <brackets> where needed ;)
[07:15] <logical_mark> Hey can someone tell me why my speaker become crackly when I scroll in a program?
[07:15] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: mine says "hoary" every where instead of "breezy" = change that or leave alone?
[07:15] <starscalling> eh
[07:16] <HymnToLife> JeffATL > do you run hoary or breezy ??
[07:16] <starscalling> do i need to set up arts to get multiple sound devices to run?
[07:16] <Pauls74462> I'm running from the LiveCD for the first time today.
[07:16] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: this appears to be haory
[07:16] <HymnToLife> wait a sec
[07:16] <thundr> that's cool, Pauls74462
[07:16] <runevi> GRUB just gave me 'Error 18' when trying to install a box.  After 'Stage 1.5'.
[07:17] <slew> HymnToLife, thanks, just wanted to play quake 1 w/ sound. =]
[07:17] <Jormundgand> starscalling: No, you just need ALSA and OSS emulation. There are instructions on the forum.
[07:17] <Pauls74462> I want know if the Ubuntu is logging on to the internet via linux software or some way via my windows login?
[07:17] <dido`> hollywoodb i'll what ever is needed :) but now i got again a "permission error" for writing in 187
[07:18] <starscalling> kay thanx Jormundgand
[07:18] <hollywoodb> dido`: as root?
[07:18] <HymnToLife> JeffATL > see here : http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php
[07:18] <dido`> hollywoodb in the console it says im root
[07:18] <ryanh> Hello all... I got xorg working now, but Synaptic won't run. The first time I tried to run it, it displayed a password prompt. I entered my password, and nothing happened. Now, I click on Synaptic and nothing happens.
[07:18] <ryanh> Also, I can't find xterminal anywhere
[07:19] <thundr> ryanh, you can use gnome-terminal, can't you?
[07:19] <Jormundgand> Anyone else having problems connecting to AIM in Gaim?
[07:19] <starscalling> nope
[07:19] <ryanh> thundr: No, there isn't a single terminal anywhere
[07:19] <HymnToLife> Jormundgand > works fine for me
[07:20] <Jormundgand> I'm getting "Couldn't connect to host".
[07:20] <Pauls74462> will GAIM work via livecd?
[07:20] <ryanh> Hmmm... nothing in the Administration menu will work
[07:20] <HymnToLife> Pauls74462 > yes
[07:20] <Pauls74462> I need help, I did the login but it didn't load.
[07:21] <dido`> hollywoodb oh, i now see you showed me how to copy the /home (cp -r /home/* /mnt/187/) but i have some files in 187 which i want to move, right i'll do that l8r
[07:21] <XhyldazhK> this is the ubuntu linux support channel?
[07:22] <JeffATL> HymnToLife: it seems that all the "multiverse" stuff was missing from my sources.list
[07:22] <hollywoodb> yep
[07:22] <navarone> XhyldazhK,  yes
[07:22] <XhyldazhK> I need a sourced.list with the dapper backport mirrors
[07:22] <XhyldazhK> sources.list
[07:22] <XhyldazhK> I googled for half hour and i cant find the lines for the dapper backports
[07:22] <regeya> dapper backports???!?
[07:23] <dido`> hollywoodb but actually i still get errors even from the console as root
[07:23] <regeya> geez louise, dapper is still in development.
[07:23] <XhyldazhK> yes, apps from dapper drake ported to breezy badger
[07:23] <dido`> hollywoodb invalid arguments and operation not permitted
[07:23] <navarone> XhyldazhK, what are you looking for inparticualr
[07:23] <ryanh> So... I think I entered the wrong password for sudo, and now I can't run any administration tools
[07:24] <XhyldazhK> navarone: the lines to add dapper drake backports to my synaptic repositories
[07:24] <tali233> hey
[07:24] <hollywoodb> dido`: ok, do this 1st: 'umount /mnt/187 && mount /dev/<fat32 partition> /mnt/187 -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000'
[07:24] <tali233> ubuntu breaks windows sound
[07:24] <tali233> any1 know how to fix it
[07:24] <navarone> dido> you may need to use sudo to cp what you are trying to copy. <?>
[07:24] <hollywoodb> dido`: also, I changed the fstab line, so refresh that page
[07:24] <tali233> i ran the live cd
[07:24] <ryanh> tali233: What do you mean?
[07:24] <tali233> and now i dont have any sound
[07:24] <regeya> tali233: you sure you don't just have the mixers muted?  check that.
[07:24] <munzir> hi gurus! I am trying to understand PTR records. So I did dig gmail.com and now dig 6-x <IP_ADDRESS> but can't see any PTR, shouldn't all mail servers have a PTR to cope with spam-filter softwares?!
[07:25] <tali233> no im positive
[07:25] <tali233> also
[07:25] <navarone> XhyldazhK,  I am using breezy and not much interested in dapper atm ...have no idea...:(
[07:25] <regeya> though I'd think that the windows mixer would reset the mixers itself
[07:25] <regeya> bah
[07:25] <tali233> couple dayz ago i installed ubuntu and same thing happend
[07:25] <XhyldazhK> navarone: can you post in some place the dapper drake backports lines of your sources.list?
[07:25] <tali233> so i had to reinstall win
[07:25] <XhyldazhK> owww}
[07:25] <tali233> and now i ran the live cd
[07:25] <tali233> and i lost my sound again
[07:25] <tali233> i tried to reinstall drivers etc
[07:25] <regeya> tali233: um, seriously, here's the reason I ask:  alsa mutes audio by default.
[07:25] <tali233> but non of this works
[07:26] <tali233> its not muted
[07:26] <datelus> could someone help me? i cant install ati radeon 9600 drivers on ubuntu. ive tried forums, but still no anserw
[07:26] <navarone> tali233, how would ubuntu install affect windows sound?
[07:26] <tali233> i have no idea
[07:26] <tali233> but it does
[07:26] <tali233> i have external sound card
[07:26] <tali233> via usb
[07:26] <Mazoku> datelus http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378 this help you
[07:27] <datelus> ok, thnx. ill try
[07:27] <JeffATL> do i assume it's ok to add local mirrors as repositories?
[07:27] <tali233> windows recognize the card and everything but there is no sound comming out of it
[07:27] <dido`> hollywoodb i wrote that line (lol) and i tried again - the smae
[07:27] <dido`> same*
[07:28] <ryanh> There's no reason that ubuntu would break Windows sound... is there?
[07:28] <navarone> tali233, perhaps you should try windows support ...?
[07:28] <JeffATL> 23MB from us.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't really cut it :)
[07:28] <hollywoodb> dido`: ok, that's beyond me then :(
[07:28] <kailahe> hi i am very very new to ubuntu or any unix systems i don't understand how to use the system  i am trying to  upgrade from hedgehog to breezy would anyone be willing to walk me through this please
[07:28] <tali233> well thx then
[07:28] <crouton_> howdy
[07:29] <runevi> Hm.  More general question than I use to ask. :)  How do I locate the packages I need to install?  I currently need the X11-headers .. but I want to be able to search for them myself instead of asking here all the time
[07:29] <tali233> even tho i kinda liked theubuntu i will never install it again ;/// specially that breezy realease
[07:29] <tali233> cause its fucked
[07:29] <tali233> cya
[07:29] <_jason> kailahe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade let us know if you don't understand something
[07:29] <bor> runevi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:29] <crouton_> Anybody use Blackbox?  I just installed from the 'server' version of Breezy and I can't get any shells to come up.
[07:30] <Xenguy> kailahe: there is a good web page of instructions for this...
[07:30] <kailahe> jason i did the download but how do i go from there
[07:30] <navarone> crouton> you need to install x server now...server install is without x by default
[07:30] <Xenguy> kailahe: I'll see if I can find it...
[07:30] <_jason> kailahe, which download?
[07:30] <kailahe> im not sure how to install anything at all
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> crouton_,  clarify the term 'shells'
[07:30] <vircuser> Hi, I need to install Ubuntu...can anyone point me to the installation guide?
[07:30] <_jason> Xenguy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade got it already :)
[07:30] <crouton_> navarone: I installed xserver-xorg and blackbox
[07:30] <DShepherd> vircuser: help.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <Xenguy> _jason: just noticed - thanks :-)
[07:31] <navarone> crouton...try startx in terminal
[07:31] <crouton_> navarone: It fires right up.  But I can't get any of the apps to run.
[07:31] <crouton_> such as Bash.
[07:31] <_jason> kailahe, which step are you on in the howto?  And which method did you use?  (apt-get or synaptic)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> crouton_,  you are saying X and the window manager work. but the menus dont?
[07:31] <crouton_> Dr_Willis: Yes, none of the applications in the menu work
[07:32] <bor> crouton_: You need to use an terminal emulator to access your shells
[07:32] <dido`> hollywoodb oh right ;]  i'll find some way to do it.. may be you could help me with the sound ;))p
[07:32] <bor> crouton_: xterm, rxvt, ...
[07:32] <crouton_> bor: I installed xterm, that doesn't do the trick?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> crouton_,  sounds like a Path issue.
[07:32] <crouton_> maybe i need to reboot...
[07:32] <kailahe> Jason i went to the brezzy site i downloaded the  instal file  it went to my  desktop i don't know what to do from there
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> crouton_,  or just logout and back in
[07:32] <migue> ss
[07:33] <_jason> kailahe, okay, you don't need that.  Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade and read the instructions there
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> crouton_,  highly likjely that - /usr/X11/bin (or similer) needs to be in your path
[07:33] <bor> crouton_: Is the xterm starting and appearing on the screen?
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> How can I have Dapper backports in my Breezy????
[07:33] <kailahe> okay thanks i'll try that
[07:33] <navarone> crouton...I am not sure about Blackbox...but perhaps applications you are looking for are simply not present /installed yet...?
[07:33] <vircuser> Can anyone point me to a specific installation guide as the help.ubuntu.com doesn't seem that helpful :/
[07:33] <bor> crouton_: Usually you don't need to reboot a GNU/Linux-System :)
[07:33] <crouton_> bor: No.
[07:33] <kailahe> i'll be back though becasue im very new to all of this and i am computer illiterate lol
[07:34] <navarone> vircuser, what are you needing help on specifically?
[07:34] <kailahe> thanks for your help everyone
[07:34] <hollywoodb> dido`: what about sound?
[07:34] <EasterSunshine> hello everyone. my Xorg became unresposive so i opened a new Xorg on display 1. does anyone know how to take processes from display 0 (which is frozen) and move them to display 1/
[07:34] <bor> crouton_: Hm, can you check ~/.xsession-errors for any errors (at the console for example)
[07:34] <runevi> Hmf.  Ubuntu seems to be far more difficult to build packages on for non-developers, than for example SuSE.
[07:35] <dido`> hollywoodb :) it recognizes my sound card as SB Live (unkown) but plays thru the integrated soundcard on the main board, i want to change that
[07:35] <runevi> With SuSE I just select the huge 'development' package-group, and i can compile almost everything at once.
[07:35] <vircuser> navarone- I've installed Ubuntu before but had some PC problems and need to reinstall. I just wanted a basic guide with screenshots e.g. so I don't do the standard install that wipes everything
[07:35] <Xenguy> runevi: you can 'cheat' with 'checkinstall'
[07:35] <runevi> Xenguy: Explain, please. :-)
[07:35] <crouton_> bor: That seems to help... 'x-terminal-emulator not found'
[07:36] <Xenguy> runevi: otherwise, yes it is more demanding than rolling RPMs AFAIK
[07:36] <XhyldazhK> Xenguy: do you have the urls of the dapper backports repositories?
[07:36] <hollywoodb> dido`: ahh, i've never dealt with multiple soundcards... i do know on some boards you can disable onboard sound and/or video via the BIOS
[07:36] <ast> join #osx
[07:36] <navarone> vircuser, I think that unless you set /home on it's own partition you will likely "erase" old setup when you install anyway..
[07:36] <runevi> Xenguy: Uhm, I don't even want to roll rpm's.. i just want to do "configure; make; make install" ;)
[07:36] <Xenguy> runevi: checkinstall allows you to build deb packages (and rpms) from source
[07:36] <Jormundgand> Why am I the only one having problems connecting to AIM?
[07:36] <runevi> Xenguy: But most of the time, it seems I have to hunt down libraries and stuff.
[07:36] <runevi> .. uhm .. header files.
[07:36] <zandaa> Jormundgand, what's it saying?
[07:36] <Xenguy> runevi: oh, definitely checkout 'checkinstall' then
[07:36] <JeffATL> is there not a sun-j2re1.5?  or a differnt version?  "dpkg -l | grep sun" produces nothing
[07:36] <Khisanth> Xenguy: but it won't automatically grab all the header files will it?
[07:36] <Jormundgand> "Can't connect to host."
[07:37] <vbgunz> anybody here familiar with nohup?
[07:37] <Jormundgand> I seem to be the only one having trouble.
[07:37] <ast> Jormundgand: How do you connect to the net ?
[07:37] <vircuser> navarone...I've erased everything...I just want to find like a screenshot guide of the choices I need to make when setting up so I don't do something wrong
[07:37] <runevi> Xenguy: doing now.
[07:37] <thundr> Jormundgand, it might be the aim servers.
[07:37] <Khisanth> runevi: open synaptic and search for -dev then install everything? :)
[07:37] <nolo_itwt> hi
[07:37] <navarone> vircuser, or are you asying that you ruined windows install...?
[07:37] <Jormundgand> ast: What do you mean by that?
[07:37] <zandaa> Jormundgand, do you have the proxy settings on the client set up correctly?
[07:37] <Xenguy> runevi: yes, you'll have to satisfy dependencies to compile, as usual
[07:37] <runevi> Khisanth: For all 7000 packages? ;D
[07:37] <Jormundgand> It's not been a problem before.
[07:37] <vircuser> navarone- I just want a step by step guide to installing ubuntu basically
[07:37] <ast> Jormundgand: Dialup or ADSL or Cable etc
[07:37] <dido`> hollywoodb ok. that's the problem i can't disable it from bios.. anyway, what about the .mp3 files? may be i need to download something to play them? because i don't have any network on that pc, another issue
[07:37] <Khisanth> runevi: you did say huge development ;)
[07:37] <navarone> vircuser, just a sec
[07:37] <runevi> Xenguy: Yups, but a lot of the really really basic stuff seems to be missing by default in ubuntu .. which is a pain ;)
[07:37] <bor> crouton_: OK, so xterm did not install itself as an alternative.  This may be a bug.
[07:37] <Xenguy> runevi: example?
[07:38] <runevi> Xenguy: gcc
[07:38] <runevi> ;)
[07:38] <Jormundgand> Weird. It works again now.
[07:38] <Xenguy> runevi: apt-get install build-essential
[07:38] <Xenguy> runevi: (IIRC)
[07:38] <runevi> Xenguy: did that.. and just installed libxv-dev .. which also seems like it should be there by default :)
[07:38] <vbgunz> anybody here know about the nohup command?
[07:38] <bor> crouton_: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/xterm 1500
[07:38] <Xenguy> runevi: meh
[07:39] <hollywoodb> dido`: yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:39] <bor> crouton_: sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/xterm
[07:39] <runevi> Xenguy: I know, i know. :)  Can't satisfy everybody.
[07:39] <vbgunz> would really appreciate if someone can help me out with the nohup command :P
[07:39] <Xenguy> runevi: ;-)
[07:39] <bor> crouton_: Afterwards your xterm should pop up
[07:39] <ubun-newbie> hi i installed nessus how do i log in
[07:39] <runevi> There!  mplayer compiled. :)  Finally! ;D
[07:40] <Xenguy> vbgunz: nohup command &   ?
[07:40] <crouton_> bor: where is that update-alternatives from?  I'm on the server version so I may not have installed that package
[07:40] <proxosi> how u list the drives you have?
[07:41] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know how to take a window on one Xorg process and move it to another Xorg process without killing it?
[07:41] <bor> crouton_: If you have got dpkg installed, it should be there as well ;-)
[07:41] <bor> crouton_: in /usr/sbin
[07:41] <ubun-newbie> hi i installed nessus how do i log in
[07:41] <vbgunz> Xenguy: I am currently running nohup devilspie so to keep devilspie running after I close out the terminal... *but* I wish to stay in the terminal :( Unfortunately when I hit Ctrl+C I kill nohup... Is it possible to escape nohup without having to kill the terminal?
[07:41] <ubun-newbie> hi i installed nessus how do i log in
[07:41] <crouton_> ah, sorry
[07:41] <bor> crouton_: May be you need to append the /usr/sbin path, sorry
[07:41] <runevi> Xenguy: But it would be really nice for us linux "amateurs" who've been using various distro for .. 8+ years .. :-)  to have an easy-to-install package that just shoveled in most of the necessities. :)
[07:41] <crouton_> bor: It said no alternatives present
[07:41] <virclala> navarone- I'm the old vircuser...did you say something?
[07:42] <Xenguy> proxosi: sudo fdisk -l
[07:42] <crouton_> bor: Installing 'xterminal' seems to have fixed it
[07:42] <proxosi> thanks
[07:42] <crouton_> not sure why it wasn't accepting xterm tho...
[07:42] <ubun-newbie> hi i installed nessus how do i log in
[07:42] <dido`> hollywoodb thanks, i saved the link. and last question - what kind of windows programs could i run, because i need some ;) (3 - one dictionary, and two sound editing programs)
[07:42] <datelus> if i have ati radeon 9600 in AGP slot what should i type in this ? ->
[07:42] <datelus>  Configuring xserver-xorg
[07:42] <datelus>                 Please enter the video card's bus identifier.
[07:42] <proxosi> btw if i change a mounted hd position.. like from secondary to main but not as boot.. would that mean i have to remount?
[07:43] <skulrid> ppl where can i find the directory C/windows?
[07:43] <hollywoodb> dido`: look at wine, that might do it, cedega if it requires directx.... there are other options too, like vmware... just browse around
[07:44] <bor> crouton_: Well, you could have done it w/o installing another emulator (-> first my --install line and then the --set line with update-alternatives)
[07:44] <hollywoodb> dido`: there are some nice dictionary & sound editing programs for linux as well, depending on what you need (audacity is a nice simple one)
[07:44] <bor> But well, I don't understand why xterm isn't installing itself as an alternatives after the post installation
[07:44] <skulrid> ppl where can i find the directory C/windows?
[07:44] <vbgunz> Xenguy: you don't know how to escape nohup do you?
[07:45] <exequor> exit
[07:45] <zandaa> skulrid, what are you talking about???
[07:45] <zandaa> skulrid, you running ubuntu right?
[07:45] <skulrid> when wine isntal programs, thye go there
[07:45] <skulrid> yah
[07:45] <skulrid> ubuntu rigth
[07:45] <vbgunz> What are some ways to escape or break the terminal? Ctrl+C, Ctrl+D anything else?
[07:45] <zandaa> skulrid, nvm then O_O
[07:45] <proxosi> how u know which is the location of the cd/dvd rom?
[07:45] <dido`> hollywoodb right, these names should help me. actually i've tried dyne:bolic (live cd) and there was a program terminator x, which could not be found outside dyne:bolice, is it possible to install it on ubuntu
[07:46] <_jason> vbgunz, ^Z
[07:46] <zandaa> vbgunz, ctrl+d exits terminal for me
[07:46] <_jason> vbgunz, that suspends
[07:46] <gnask> Hi, anyone know any easy way to make tv-out work on my nvidiacard? (twinview) .. i have the latest drivers and the nvout tool..
[07:46] <vbgunz> _jason: ^Z stopped nohup :(
[07:46] <Xenguy> vbgunz: I'm not sure what you mean by "escape" nohup for one thing; the previous line I gave you (with the '&' character at the end) is about all I can offer
[07:46] <skulrid> zandaa dint understand
[07:48] <soundray> gnask, not an easy way, but there are instructions in a readme in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[07:48] <vbgunz> Xenguy: You're absolutely right... nohup devilspie & works perfectly! In fact it takes me right back to prompt without having to break or escape anything! Major thanks bro!
[07:48] <zandaa> skulrid, nevermind... I wasn't really understanding what you say either XD
[07:48] <_jason> vbgunz, okay well that gives you a job number.  So if you want it in the foreground: fg %1.  Background: bg %1.  where 1 is the job number
[07:48] <gnask> soundray: ok, ill check it out..
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> gnask,  supriseing - mine worked when i dident even want it to.
[07:48] <skulrid> loool
[07:49] <shinkius> hey
[07:49] <gnask> Dr_Willis, hah, it works for me too, but not in X.. :/
[07:49] <vbgunz> _jason: not sure how job numbers work out :P
[07:49] <shinkius> anyone using dapper here?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> gnask,  I plugged in the tv out. and the X defaulted to it.. so here i was with the TV off.. and a blank screen where i expected X to be...
[07:49] <skulrid> zandaa, kinda, where programs installed with WINE, go to?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> gnask,  I googled a bit - and fond some X config examples and got it going however.
[07:49] <_jason> vbgunz, k, you could probably use ALT+F2 to run it too
[07:49] <maino82> has anyone successfully set up a vnc server on their ubuntu box? i followed the how-to on the forums but it's telling me it can't connect to host. i think i've opened up the proper ports in iptables, but it's still not working. any suggestions?
[07:49] <zandaa> skulrid, sorry I never ran WINE before
[07:49] <soundray> Dr_Willis, you could spend ages debugging such a "fault"...
[07:50] <RQ> anyone using dapper here?
[07:50] <RQ> i've got some graphics issues
[07:50] <RQ> :/
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  yep.. :P but I was getting the gnome SOUNDS>. :P  i was so confused.. so i turned on the tv to catch some toons.. and there it was.
[07:50] <_jason> maino82, can you ssh into it?
[07:50] <vbgunz> _jason: I like running it from the terminal :) Major thanks though, I didn't know about ^Z... Thanks (That's suspend?) !
[07:50] <skulrid> damn yah sory
[07:51] <cvt> i have been a ubuntu user for 6 months but i can't get ubuntu to install on this new laptop. does anyone know why?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  spend an hr trying to find out why my sound was mute the other day.. i had a Headpone 'adaptor' in the headphpone jack :P xp auto-muted the sound for me.
[07:51] <_jason> vbgunz, yep, google for "job control bash"  you'll learna ll about bg and fg... you can stop by using kill %1 too
[07:51] <soundray> vbgunz, yes, and if you want the suspended program to run in the background, the command after ^Z is bg
[07:52] <cvt> i think this computer is preventing any other os from being installed on it.
[07:52] <navarone> cvt what problems are you having?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  well given the ABUNDANCE of info :P no clue..
[07:52] <cvt> navarone, the process just stops at A:/>
[07:53] <vbgunz> Thanks fellas _jason, soundray! I think I understand, will check with google now to make sure! Thanks fellas!
[07:53] <eksajm> hello, is there something speciall you need to do to k3b for it to automatically reencode mp3 files so i can burn a normal audio cd? iot says it do not recognize the fiel type
[07:53] <navarone> cvt> offhand I would say you may need a bios upgrade to enable large drive support.
[07:53] <cvt> Dr_Willis, http://www.4shared.com/dir/158099/1037e690/sharing.html
[07:53] <ClayG> how do you guys ssh into your machines on the road, what if the public ip changes from the time you leave? any suggestions?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  dynamic dns. 'dydns.org' (i think)
[07:54] <eksajm> dyndns?
[07:54] <Enfors> ClayG: Yeah, use dyndns
[07:54] <Enfors> Go to www.dyndns.org
[07:54] <ClayG> is it free?
[07:54] <Goldfish> I started ripping CDs on my laptop today. Was researching the issue about it not going very fast. Right I have it 1.0. Earlier it wasup to 2.0 (when not doing anything else).
[07:54] <Enfors> Yes, it's free
[07:54] <ClayG> and how does it know what your new ip is?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> magic :P
[07:54] <eksajm> a program sends it
[07:54] <cvt> navarone, the bios has been updated from the manufacturer's website.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> actually my linksys router i have has Dyndns support :P
[07:54] <Enfors> DynDNS runs a client on your machine that updates a central server with your machine's dynamic IP.
[07:55] <ClayG> oh i see you have a phone home type app on yer machine
[07:55] <ClayG> nice
[07:55] <|Synapse|> finally got ubuntu installed
[07:55] <Goldfish> ClayG: Not much you can if your home ip changes. The only way is dynamic dns services.
[07:55] <Subhuman> ClayG, I use dyndns, either your router can do it or a tracker program
[07:55] <eksajm> in k3b do you need to do something for k3b to encode my mp3 files to normal audio cds?
[07:55] <Subhuman> www.dyndns.org
[07:55] <navarone> cvt> I had to update my bios after installing new 250 gb drive. Drive setup put a ddo on drive which bypassed bios settings in order to see large capacity drive. However the ddo also seemed to bypass boot order and prevented me from booting from a:
[07:55] <HymnToLife> Goldfish > which program do you use for ripping ?
[07:55] <navarone> cvt...then I dunno without knowing more
[07:55] <|Synapse|> How can i boot to terminal and change the refresh rate? (default install is too high so i cant see anything)
[07:55] <Subhuman> navarone,  you sure the boot order is not in your bios?
[07:55] <Goldfish> I have sound juicer on my ubuntu setup. My two other machines are debian, and I just got this laptop loaded a couple of days ago.
[07:56] <cvt> navarone, here's what happens on the screen: http://www.4shared.com/dir/158099/1037e690/sharing.html
[07:56] <Mabus06> ClayG, your router (normally found by typing <IP_ADDRESS> in firefox or another browser) should have dynamic dns settings. Just fill in your account info from no-ip.com or dyndns.org
[07:56] <Enfors> Can anyone explain why emacs (or xemacs) isn't included in any repositories? It's THE standard text editor for programmers!
[07:56] <navarone> Subhuman, yes...however the ddo bypasses bios settings in order to inplement the large drive usage
[07:56] <RQ> Enfors, vim is
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> !info emacs
[07:56] <HymnToLife> Enfors > no, it's not
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :0 dang no bot!
[07:56] <HymnToLife> vi is
[07:56] <Goldfish> Enfors: Well...My brain only has room for one set of editors, so I already set that aside for vi.
[07:57] <Enfors> vi won't help me install emacs. I want emacs (or xemacs).
[07:57] <RQ> Enfors, apt-cache search emacs
[07:57] <RQ> emacs21 - The GNU Emacs editor
[07:57] <navarone> cvt> what does images files have to do with anything?
[07:57] <Goldfish> vi won't help you install emacs, but apt-get will!
[07:57] <Enfors> Thanks RQ I'll try that
[07:57] <psi> Enfors, it is in univerrse
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Enfors,  :P it pays to learn the packing system
[07:57] <RQ> yw
[07:57] <psi> universe*
[07:57] <cvt> navarone, those are pics of what happens on the screen.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> packaging. :()
[07:57] <Enfors> If it's in Universe, then how come it doesn't show up in "add programs" from the Gnome menu?
[07:57] <ClayG> thanks guys this looks pretty cool
[07:58] <psi> it doesn't show all programs for some reason
[07:58] <navarone> cvt> when did you update buios?
[07:58] <navarone> bios
[07:58] <psi> try the "advanced" option in the menu
[07:58] <cvt> navarone, about a week ago.
[07:58] <Enfors> Ah, that explains it. So, would apt-get install emacs do the trick?
[07:58] <navarone> cvt> have you done a low level format since?
[07:58] <mmiikkee12> since ubotu is temporarily dead, mind if i put my bot in here a while?
[07:59] <psi> Enfors, yeah, or emacs21, or whatever
[07:59] <RQ> Enfors, cause the package is emacs21
[07:59] <Enfors> psi: Thanks.
[07:59] <cvt> navarone, before that yes. not after
[07:59] <vbgunz> _jason: I got a sweet document on bash control... your google term struck gold :)
[07:59] <vbgunz> _jason: Thanks bro!
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install emacs-desktop
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:59] <navarone> cvt> do another format to get rid of ddo...that is what the caldera thingy is I beleive
[07:59] <Enfors> Thanks Dr_Willis
[07:59] <RQ> Dr_Acemaster,  ;D
[08:00] <navarone> cvt> I had to format three times while trying to get new drive swet up
[08:00] <|Synapse|> does anyone know?
[08:00] <RQ> Dr_Willis, he will now try that command and complain about it
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> RQ,  :P
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> emacs + the wmii window manager!
[08:01] <RQ> Dr_Willis, i mean there's no such package, is there? ;P
[08:02] <sorush20> guys the Reply button gin Yahoo.co.uk mail doesn't work any help?
[08:02] <cvt> navarone, thx
[08:02] <navarone> cvt good luck
[08:02] <Subhuman> sorush20, what does this have to do with ubuntu?? lol
[08:02] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know how to move a window running on one Xorg process over to another Xorg process?
[08:02] <TTilus> sorush20: try different browser
[08:02] <RQ> Subhuman, it doesn't work in ubuntu ;)
[08:02] <EasterSunshine> or a process running on display :0 over to something on display :1 ?
[08:02] <RQ> sorush20, try installing Opera or Konqueror
[08:03] <|Synapse|> How can i boot to terminal and change the refresh rate? (default install is too high so i cant see anything)
[08:03] <TTilus> sorush20: or dillo
[08:03] <thundr> |Synapse|, you mean the resolution?
[08:03] <sorush20> guys the Reply button gin Yahoo.co.uk mail doesn't work in Konqueror Kubuntu,any help?
[08:03] <|Synapse|> yes
[08:03] <TTilus> |Synapse|: what do  you want to change?
[08:03] <starbrand> you should probably try mosaic 0.1
[08:04] <dido`> Where can I find some network setup wizard in ubuntU?
[08:04] <starbrand> it is fully compliant with the new "http" standard.
[08:04] <|Synapse|> basically the screen is flickering after a default install, i need to change the settings to something like 1024x768 @ 70hz
[08:04] <TTilus> |Synapse|: ah, just launch teminal and do what you do
[08:04] <RQ> sorush20,  try Firefox then
[08:04] <RQ> or opera
[08:04] <Enfors> Let me just state this, for the record: apt rocks.
[08:04] <TTilus> |Synapse|: you dont need to "boot to terminal"
[08:04] <thundr> |Synapse|, you can go to system>preferences>screen resolution and see if that helps
[08:04] <Goldfish> dido: System -> Administration -> Networking
[08:04] <gnomefreak> im always looking for new window managers but i cant find the wmii one on this site :(
[08:04] <|Synapse|> i cant see the screen though
[08:05] <TTilus> |Synapse|: actually you dont have to boot pretty much ever
[08:05] <starbrand> apt seems like portage's retarded little brother to me.
[08:05] <dido`> Goldfish thanks ;)
[08:05] <|Synapse|> i cannot see the GUI, so i need to go to CLI
[08:06] <mac_> is there a package in ubuntu like "xfontsel", but one which support display of anti-aliased fonts (e.g., Arial)?
[08:06] <Goldfish> Synapse: Well, jumping to terminal mode is ctl-alt-f1 (or f2..f6), when you are in Xwindows.
[08:06] <ice_1963> i like synaptic
[08:06] <TTilus> starbrand: i dont think apt is a relative of portage, maybe in-law, but definitely not anything more  :)
[08:06] <maggard> having install probs with edubuntu, freezes on 'starting up the partitioner'.  help?
[08:06] <RQ> mac_, err...
[08:06] <|Synapse|> cheers goldfish
[08:06] <|Synapse|> :)
[08:06] <thundr> |Synapse|, ctrl-alt f1 and use nano or whatever to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as sudo
[08:07] <thundr> maggard, how old is the computer you're installing to?
[08:07] <sinclair> mh, how was the comand to install the ubuntu-desktop? i have kubuntu and would like to change to ubuntu
[08:07] <mac_> RQ: "... with anti-aliasing shown", if that's what you mean :)
[08:07] <ClayG> which is the better app to "phone home" to dyndns? I see two listed in synaptic
[08:07] <|Synapse|> as sudo thundr ?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> sinclair, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <Goldfish> One of my machines is a mythtv box hooked up to an HDTV. I have to had to use terminal MANY times! (And the overscan of the tv puts the command typing below the physical edge of the screen!)
[08:07] <maggard> old hp with 64mb ram, has windows me on it i want to get rid of
[08:07] <sinclair> thanks :)
[08:07] <navarone> |Synapse|,  sudo /nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:07] <|Synapse|> ah
[08:07] <RQ> mac_, nah, i'm thinking what it might be
[08:08] <|Synapse|> i see
[08:08] <navarone> oops... nano...not /nano
[08:08] <thundr> beat me to it, navarone
[08:08] <|Synapse|> oo
[08:08] <Ophiocus> when i type mount i get /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) for the root filesystem, should i do something for the "errors=remount-ro" bit?
[08:08] <mac_> I mean, there is "gtkfontsel", but unlike in Debian, in Ubuntu it doesn't show anti-aliasing...
[08:08] <|Synapse|> well thanks for the help ill go try it
[08:08] <mac_> not even linked againt libxft
[08:08] <holy_cow> *hmmm*
[08:08] <sinclair> and i remember there was a keyword that i could put into this apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to be able to uninstall al the components at once when i want to uninstall it.. something like that
[08:08] <Goldfish> maggard: I have a dell inspiron 7500. 5+ years old. Bought some memory, new hard drive, dvd burner, and it is now cooking with ubuntu. :)
[08:08] <holy_cow> what would be a good strategy for creating a file server that a) had redundancy (say software raid) and to which you could keep on adding hard drives?
[08:09] <navarone> thundr I think I did that about 35 times yesterday trying to get agp support going for nvidia...using nvidia-agp and not agpgart
[08:09] <sinclair> like not having to uninstall every package, someone told me that once..
[08:09] <RQ> mac_,  gfontview maybe?
[08:09] <thundr> navarone, really, huh
[08:09] <navarone> thundr, but from what i hear you basically need a kernel without agpgart in it
[08:09] <TTilus> holy_cow: i would propably use lvm, evm or like
[08:09] <maggard> would like to get there gold, just can't get past the install
[08:09] <holy_cow> lvm doesn't sound like a great idea ... not to hot on the idea of having one image spanned accross multiple hd's
[08:09] <Goldfish> holy_cow: Well, I experimented with raid+lvm, etc., but it was too much hassle. Buy two harddrives and a raid card and be done with it. Put lvm on top of it.
[08:10] <holy_cow> TTilus, how come?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> sinclair, sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop should get rid of the packages but than again ive never had to uninstall it
[08:10] <holy_cow> Goldfish, what if you would like it to grow ... it's easy to fill even 100 gig hd's these days ...
[08:10] <Goldfish> maggard: I started with 128M, double what you have. Managed to get crawling, and I mean crawling. I bumped it up to system limit of 512M ram, and this is usable.
[08:10] <RQ> mac_, nah, i take my words back
[08:10] <TTilus> holy_cow: like Goldfish told, lvm on top of raid mirrors
[08:10] <RQ> mac_, gfontview is gtk1
[08:11] <holy_cow> allrighty then time to google up different raid configs
[08:11] <holy_cow> thx
[08:11] <mac_> RQ: oh, I see... gtk1 didn't support xft/antialiasing I take it?
[08:11] <Goldfish> holy_cow: I tried making what is called software raid, where linux makes two disk partitions into RAID parts. Yuch! Too much hassle. There is hardware that is better.
[08:11] <thundr> holy_cow, wikipedia has a large article on RAID setups
[08:11] <pete__> anyone here got teamspeak and can do me a favor?
[08:11] <mac_> RQ: (I'm a total noob when it comes to GNOME/GTK/fonts)
[08:11] <navarone> what temp should cpu be at normally? 60F?
[08:11] <maggard> goldfish: i thought this worked with 64mb?
[08:11] <Goldfish> holy_cow: My mythtv box has a 250G drive a 400G drive. Disk drive space is cheap. I use LVM for the video portion to store all my recorded tv shows.
[08:11] <sinclair> okayz
[08:11] <thundr> maggard, it depends on what kind of processor you have.
[08:12] <RQ> mac_, yup
[08:12] <RQ> gtk1 sucks
[08:12] <phlaegel> is anybody here running ubuntu with pci-e video?
[08:12] <holy_cow> thundr, ah cool danke
[08:12] <navarone> phlaegel,  I wish...<s>
[08:12] <thundr> maggard, I've got 256 and it's running fine.
[08:12] <RQ> mac_, you may want to try this: http://www.pcbypaul.com/software/FONTpage.html
[08:12] <mac_> RQ: that would explain why gtkfontsel didn't have antialising (gtk1)
[08:12] <thundr> holy_cow, you may want to try the ubuntu forums/wiki/support at ubuntulinux.org
[08:13] <phlaegel> navarone: do you know if it's supposed to work well?
[08:13] <maggard> celeron 633mhz
[08:13] <mac_> RQ: which is weird, because I could have sworn that in Debian's sid gtkfontsel did do it
[08:13] <RQ> mac_, but it looks like there are no packages of fontpage for ubuntu :/
[08:13] <|Synapse|> thundr: would this command be more appropriate? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <navarone> phlaegel, I have no idea really I ahve enuff headaches with agp...lol
[08:13] <RQ> mac_, it's probably just a matter of what you compile it with :)
[08:13] <holy_cow> Goldfish, thundr okay i think my next set of questions are about how to set that up properly and im sure there is lots of info on that out there
[08:13] <Tedd> Can somebody help me get Cedega running?
[08:13] <holy_cow> Goldfish, what raid card do you recommend?
[08:14] <mac_> RQ: that looks pretty cool... will try to build it
[08:14] <Tedd> It has three things; debian-support (don't know the file type), and two .tar.gzs.
[08:14] <Subhuman> Tedd, Cedega has tech support i thought?
[08:14] <RQ> mac_, good luck ;)
[08:14] <mkyb14> having a problem with synergy.  how do you start it in ubuntu.  i just did the apt-get and then tried to start it
[08:14] <sinclair> gnomefreak: and after installing it, what must i do
[08:14] <Goldfish> holy_cow: Good luck. P.S. I don't recommend any raid cards. It was a science experiment. I instead opted to write a simple backup script to backup to an alternate disk.
[08:14] <RQ> mac_, just do it debian way ;))
[08:14] <sinclair> only reboot, and select ubuntu?
[08:14] <RQ> debianize it ;)
[08:14] <gnomefreak> |Synapse|, thats what i use but there are a few different ways to go about it all depends on what yuou need to do i guess
[08:14] <Goldfish> holy_cow: ...using rsync. Got what I wanted.
[08:14] <holy_cow> Goldfish, lol, i was considering that too
[08:15] <thundr> |Synapse|, you can use that if you want, whichever you prefer.  If that dosen't work, edit it manually
[08:15] <gnomefreak> sinclair, after its uninstalled log out and pick it from the log-in page
[08:15] <navarone> |Synapse|, from eprsonal experience I would say it is easier to edit config files than go thru reconfigure...it is easier to mess more things up in reconfigure while if you ar eediting the correct config files and know what to do you can avoid extra headaches
[08:15] <mac_> RQ: "debian way" ?
[08:15] <Subhuman> So what would you suggest for like 120 gbs worth of data to backup? a second harddrive, and just do a copy?
[08:15] <phlaegel> almost 700 people in here, and nobody is using pci-e?
[08:15] <holy_cow> that i would consider the safest, wouldn't haveto go through a raid rebuild process in case of a failure but that setup has problems if you want to keep on adding hd's
[08:15] <sinclair> um, but i didnt uninstall it, i only installed ubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <jbroome> phlaegel, i am not
[08:15] <Goldfish> holy_cow: I set aside 20G on one disk and wrote a script to backup /home, custom built kernels, and the package list dump, so I could reconstruct my machines.
[08:15] <RQ> mac_, yeah. You make a .deb of it, and dpkg -i that .deb
[08:15] <RQ> ;)
[08:16] <thundr> I've got to go.  Good luck, everyone
[08:16] <RQ> mac_, i may try doing that for you :))
[08:16] <navarone> Goldfish, you ar eon the ball
[08:16] <XhyldazhK> HEY! where it's located the dapper-backports repository?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> its almost done :)
[08:16] <Goldfish> ;P
[08:16] <ice_1963> how can i jest install gnome-core?
[08:16] <natex> RQ, got a good link to help with packaging .debs?
[08:16] <RQ> natex, yup
[08:16] <mac_> RQ: hmm, I actually wanted to learn doing debs for pkgs which don't have a ./debian/... is there a doc/howto/quickstart doc somewhere?
[08:16] <Goldfish> RAID is really the answer if you are mission critical servers. That ain't the case here. :)
[08:16] <gnomefreak> XhyldazhK, no such thing as backports for dapper
[08:16] <ajmitch> mac_: yes, there are packaging guides
[08:17] <ajmitch> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html for example
[08:17] <|Synapse|> HorizSync 26-51 << is this scan frequency ?
[08:17] <XhyldazhK> gnomefreak: where can I get the latest apps for breezy now that it's stable?
[08:17] <Subhuman> holy_cow, I ask because I have 2 x 120gb drives,and im running on a prayer :P, no backup at all, i considered multi level RAID : raid 0 over the two drives i got now, and then another 240gb drive to mirror raid 1 with.
[08:17] <RQ> natex, mac_ apt-get install maint-guide
[08:17] <navarone> phlaegel, I can't consider pci-e myself unless I upgrade mb and the works. easier to buy new machine then...:?
[08:17] <mac_> ajmitch: cool, thx!
[08:17] <natex> RQ, thanks buddy
[08:17] <sorush20> guys lsusb hangs?
[08:17] <ajmitch> or there are others, like the debian NM guide
[08:17] <Subhuman> but i might just get a 240 and just do a copy every week or so
[08:18] <Goldfish> I read a really neat page where a guy was making backups of his backups using hard links, so he had the last 3 nights without additional disk usage due to the hard links. Not bad.
[08:18] <gnomefreak> XhyldazhK,  oh ok you want breezy backports ok hold on no bot i have to remember where it is
[08:18] <RQ> natex, mac_, then go to file:///usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.en.html
[08:18] <ice_1963> hmmm
[08:18] <ajmitch> #ubuntu-motu has people willing to help with packaging :)
[08:18] <navarone> RQ what kinda info inmaint guide? Is it ubuntu specific or general?
[08:19] <phlaegel> navarone: yeah, I'm about to build a new pc for someone else, and soon for myself, so I'm just trying to figure out for sure whether I can safely go with pci-e.
[08:19] <holy_cow> Subhuman, yeah its a hard problem.  i have a desktop or two i would like to have backed up via simple raid 0 like you, but then i have a ton of other stuff i would like to dump to file server of some sort ... and have the file server as a master backup store as well
[08:19] <ice_1963> can you jest install gnome-core
[08:19] <RQ> navarone, it's about making debs
[08:19] <RQ> the procedure is similar in ubuntu and debian
[08:20] <navarone> phlaegel, you may wan t to google a compatibility list for hardware on linux kernel or ubuntu
[08:20] <RQ> probably just the section names differ
[08:20] <XhyldazhK> gnomefreak: breezy-backports are backports from breezy or from dapper to breezy?
[08:20] <ajmitch> RQ: no, section names are the same
[08:20] <Goldfish> rsync kicks butt, because you can give it whole directories to copy, and it only sends diffs. Also, it can send "delete" operations as well. Support ssh.
[08:20] <Subhuman> holy_cow, the raid idea seems best to me, as it would make it nice and safe, but itd mean having to set up windows and linux again to see my raid, moving files around alot of hassle
[08:20] <RQ> ajmitch, then I guess nothing differs at all ;)
[08:20] <navarone> phlaegel, my next upgrade is extra 256 pc2100 ra, and some freaking new fans to calm the noise...:)
[08:20] <gnomefreak> breezy backports get packages from dapper that have been backported
[08:21] <phlaegel> navarone: I've been doing plenty of searching... so far I *think* that it will work fine, but it's hard to find a definitive answer. maybe that's because it just works and nobody sees a need to answer. :-)
[08:21] <ajmitch> RQ: sure, you need to put 'dapper' in the changelog to upload to dapper :)
[08:21] <gnask> Im having real trouble with this TV-out thing.. :( doesnt anybody have a xorg.conf that fits with a "nvidia 5600" and a Tv-out using PAL-g (or b) system? :)
[08:21] <navarone> phlaegel, we could only hope...:)
[08:21] <ajmitch> RQ: and versioning differs slightly
[08:21] <wietz0r> How do I change/update my $PATH ?
[08:22] <holy_cow> Subhuman, yeah i should of just setup the desktop with raid0 in the first place i think.  i haveto think harder about the file server and backup servers tho
[08:22] <mac_> RQ: heh, I'm an idiot... "I'm going to build FONTpage..."... it's a pyTK app... totally missed the "py" bit... nothing to build. :)
[08:22] <mac_> RQ: BTW, that proggy is really nice... thx for the find!
[08:22] <gnomefreak> XhyldazhK, here is a full sources list find backports part and instead of it put your country code
[08:22] <Goldfish> Isn't raid0 just the striping? I understand that isn't really much of what I consider raid.
[08:22] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5577
[08:22] <Jxpx> panzer en ubuntu-cl
[08:23] <Goldfish> raid1 is the mirror drives, which is what I was trying.
[08:23] <Subhuman> with raid 0?
[08:23] <Subhuman> why?
[08:23] <navarone> gnomefreak, are backports safe to install?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> XhyldazhK, also if you look in the help icon there is a guide for breezy they have a backport in there
[08:23] <Subhuman> Goldfish is right, raid0 offers no backup at all.
[08:23] <Goldfish> striping is really for performance enhancements.
[08:23] <holy_cow> Subhuman, http://www.achtung.com/unix/raid1d.html <-- again i am not sure, i once read this and am confusing raid 0 with whatever that dude is talking about
[08:23] <XhyldazhK> gnomefreak: thank you so much!
[08:23] <mkyb14> how do you start synergy?
[08:23] <bshumate> wietz0r: edit your ~/.bash_profile
[08:23] <Subhuman> id only need it to make two drives one, so they match a 240gb drive for raid1
[08:24] <gnomefreak> navarone, i havent had an issue but they are not supported as officail repos
[08:24] <P-a-gman> hi
[08:24] <Goldfish> I prefer english: striping, mirrored drives. Don't worry with the raid designations.
[08:24] <wietz0r> bshumate: Thanks
[08:24] <RQ> mac_, your welcom
[08:24] <Goldfish> When people start saying raid4, 5, 10...that is when I'm reaching for a dictionary.
[08:24] <RQ> mac_, quick googling brings most of the answers
[08:24] <RQ> ;)
[08:24] <P-a-gman> someone who can help me with installing a flash play so i can run macromedia 8 flash files
[08:25] <navarone> gnomefreak, would I find gnutella-gtk and xchat 2.6 in backports...or only older versions of software?
[08:25] <RQ> P-a-gman, you're on a PC, right?
[08:25] <RQ> (i.e. not on a mac)
[08:25] <P-a-gman> yes
[08:25] <RQ> K..
[08:25] <RQ> one sec
[08:25] <P-a-gman> k
[08:25] <mkyb14> no one here know synergy?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> x-chat 2.6 yes thats the onlu way to get it as for the other i dont know look at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:25] <Subhuman> Goldfish, Im just lazy :P, raid0 is quicker than striping :D
[08:25] <rmbrain> Seveas, if linux were to be nearly as popular as windows, would that mean there would be more linux viruses?  would linux be less secure?
[08:25] <RQ> P-a-gman,
[08:25] <RQ> http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla
[08:25] <Goldfish> ;)
[08:25] <P-a-gman> im quite new n linux
[08:26] <Tedd> Yo
[08:26] <P-a-gman> thanks
[08:26] <Tedd> (agin)
[08:26] <Tedd> Listen
[08:26] <Subhuman> rmbrain, maybe, but itz alot harder to write viruses for linux anyway
[08:26] <Seveas> rmbrain, the design of linux is much more secure
[08:26] <Tedd> Can anybody help me get my speakers working once and for all?
[08:26] <RQ> P-a-gman, your welcome :)
[08:26] <Goldfish> When a virus enters a linux system, it discovers it can't travel far due to a little things called "root password".
[08:26] <Seveas> but yeah, there would be more attempts
[08:26] <navarone> rmbrain, I think linux is more secure against threats like that because of how users are set up
[08:26] <Subhuman> because with the separation of root and users, al it could do is trash the users sapce.
[08:26] <Tedd> At first they worked, then they stopped working. I fiddled with the configuration and then they worked, and now they arn't working again
[08:27] <mkyb14> can't find sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[08:27] <Goldfish> I guess there would be more hoax viruses that read, "You must type sudo /bin/rm /some/hoax/virus/file"
[08:27] <Subhuman> lol yeah :P
[08:27] <Tedd> Can anybody help me? This is driving me up a wall when I'm trying to design a site in silence.
[08:27] <Seveas> mkyb14, enable mozilla
[08:27] <Subhuman> the only thing they can do
[08:27] <bshumate> rmbrain: that is a common fallacy, when in fact it is Window's horrible design that makes it such an attractive target to attack
[08:27] <Seveas> mkyb14, enable multiverse
[08:27] <mkyb14> ?
[08:27] <RQ> mkyb14, you run it in terminal
[08:27] <gnomefreak> mkyb14,  did you look for it in synaptic?
[08:27] <Seveas> (what was i thinking?!?)
[08:27] <Subhuman> is fill your hdd up with trash, if u dont separate the home directory onto itz own partition.
[08:27] <Goldfish> Subhuman: Guess that is a DOS attack in its own right, ehh?
[08:28] <P-a-gman> im just gonna ask one of my friends i got the system of him so he should could figure it out
[08:28] <rmbrain> bshumate, do you have any metrics to prove this?  i am reading more and more that if Linux (and Firefox, actually I just saw) were to be more popular, like IE and Windows then we would see more viruses and linux spyware
[08:28] <DarkOra> i need some help with GDM not starting
[08:28] <Subhuman> Goldfish, yeah, thats why i keep home on itz own partition :P
[08:28] <gnomefreak> ill brb too scared to look at this just incase errors :(
[08:28] <Tedd> Can anybody help me get my speakers running please?
[08:28] <Seveas> rmbrain, more attempts definitely, but whether they would be successful? I doubt it
[08:28] <Subhuman> Tedd, what sound card u using? or are u using the inbuilt sound?
[08:28] <Tedd> Subhuman: ICH5 I believe
[08:28] <rmbrain> Seveas, thanks, but only time will tell, right? lol
[08:28] <Tedd> That's what it says
[08:29] <bshumate> rmbrain: do your own research, old chap-  it is definitely not because of popularity though.
[08:29] <Tedd> Subhuman: Intel ICH5.
[08:29] <lenaic> DarkOra: do you ahve an error message?
[08:29] <Subhuman> hmm, never heard of it, tried looking on google?
[08:29] <Goldfish> When I loaded ubuntu, the only disk-related option I saw was to either directly setup the disks or use LVM. I picked direct. There were never questiions about carving up the disk. I may have to use the live cd to repartition this.
[08:29] <DarkOra> i just installed kubuntu-desktop but now cannot log in
[08:29] <mkyb14> i don't know what i'm supposed to enable
[08:29] <Subhuman> Goldfish, you can do the partition table yourself.
[08:30] <Subhuman> Goldfish, I did due to the funny setup with partions i had already.
[08:30] <Goldfish> Subhuman: I know how to use fdisk, but I would have to unmount the root disk. That means I need a live CD, ehh?
[08:30] <atchim> hi their..
[08:30] <Subhuman> Goldfish, yeah you would.
[08:31] <atchim> someone could aid me on breeze with a asus l3c laptop?..
[08:31] <RQ> brb
[08:31] <atchim> i was looking for the right layout..
[08:31] <Goldfish> Ahh! A cold beer!!!
[08:31] <atchim> ...
[08:31] <Tedd> Can anybody help me? My sound was working at first, then it broke, then I fixed it, now it's broke. I have an Intel ICH5 sound card, can anybody help me PLEASE?
[08:32] <lenaic> DarkOra: try to copy /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.dpkg-dist to gdm.conf and restart
[08:32] <natex> Tedd, tell us what you did?
[08:32] <Goldfish> I guess Muad'dib just left.
[08:32] <Tedd> natex: I was just flipping switches on and off.
[08:32] <atchim> hehe..
[08:32] <atchim> nice one ..
[08:32] <Tedd> natex: In ALSA.
[08:32] <Goldfish> That sounds like a reproducible situation to me!
[08:32] <regeya> muad'dib?
[08:32] <rmbrain> bshumate, with Windows Vista - Microsoft says they will have permissions similar to UNIX-like permissions found in Linux/BSD/Solaris.  Will that decrease the amount of malware?
[08:32] <atchim> i just could use it..
[08:32] <DarkOra> could someone help me? I had GNOME workin then i installed kubuntu-desktop and now display manager wont startup thus unable to log on
[08:33] <regeya> he was here?
[08:33] <natex> Tedd, what program?
[08:33] <regeya> LET ME TAKE HIS WATER.
[08:33] <Tedd> natex: ALSA Mixer.
[08:33] <Goldfish> RQ was exiting with a quote from Frank Herbert's "Dune"
[08:33] <Dr_Acemaster> what's a good temp monitoring program?
[08:33] <bshumate> rmbrain: possibly, but then again, Microsoft has a notorious history of poor implementation
[08:33] <Goldfish> Dr_Acemaster: I setup lmsensors on my mythtv box.
[08:33] <atchim> the @movie@ DUNE
[08:33] <lenaic>  DarkOra: try to copy /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.dpkg-dist to gdm.conf and restart
[08:33] <atchim> :)
[08:33] <mkyb14> sayas it can't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[08:33] <Dr_Acemaster> Goldfish: mythtv box huh
[08:33] <Dr_Acemaster> nice
[08:33] <cvt_> are there any linux professionals in here?
[08:33] <Goldfish> The move...huh. Book is 10x better.
[08:34] <atchim> i was in need of some help..
[08:34] <DarkOra> ok cuz right now i only have console
[08:34] <bshumate> rmbrain: and for a freebee "metric" to prove current windows design flaws, two words : sony rootkit
[08:34] <natex> Tedd, change back the switches
[08:34] <Tedd> cvt_: I am a professional at drinking while using linux. ;)
[08:34] <Tedd> natex: I'll try that.
[08:34] <atchim> didn't thought so..
[08:34] <cvt_> Tedd, that's my goal.
[08:34] <atchim> i need some help with ubuntu breeze..
[08:34] <Tedd> To drink while using linux and not spill your drink?
[08:34] <Tedd> THat is a hearty goal indeed. I wish you the best of luck.
[08:34] <cvt_> Tedd, to be a linux professional.
[08:35] <atchim> to configure  right my laptop keyboard..
[08:35] <Tedd> Oh. Damn, that's much harder.
[08:35] <cvt_> Tedd, lol
[08:35] <atchim> someone can aid me?
[08:35] <cvt_> maybe
[08:35] <Goldfish> MythTV ---> http://www.mindspring.com/~gregturn/right_turn/id9.html
[08:35] <Stormx2> heya
[08:35] <Subhuman> atchim, whats up/
[08:36] <Goldfish> Tedd: Built your personal kegbot yet?
[08:36] <atchim> can't find a layout that suits my laptop..
[08:36] <Tedd> Goldfish: Almost. I was a bit happy at the time, though, so I might have just been hitting my night table with a hammer
[08:36] <atchim> lasus l3c..
[08:36] <Dr_Acemaster> Goldfish: I installed lmsensors via synaptic, any idea where I might find an icon if any?
[08:37] <atchim> err... asus l3c
[08:37] <atchim> with ubuntu breeze..
[08:37] <Subhuman> layout?
[08:37] <Subhuman> oh as in keyboard.
[08:37] <gnomefreak> cvt_,  if you define professional as someone with a linux cert. than go take the linux + test :)  but there are so many different defintions of a pro not real sure
[08:37] <Subhuman> hmm, i never had great sucess getting a perfect mapping...
[08:37] <Goldfish> Dr_Acemaster: I had to run through some sensor setup. The desktop app to see configure sensors was ksensors. I had to rebuild some kernel modules to empower it.
[08:37] <atchim> yup
[08:37] <lenaic> DarkOra: you can also try dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm depnds on what you prefer)
[08:37] <atchim> i don't even ask to map it..
[08:38] <atchim> i just want the right keys..
[08:38] <cvt_> gnomefreak, oh
[08:38] <atchim> :P
[08:38] <mkyb14> where can i get an updated list of the sources.list for breezy.  i accidently used a hoary one
[08:38] <wietz0r> Hello, I've just finished installing ubuntu and now whenever I try to start xorg it errors with the message "Couldn't find a valid font path" How do I solve this ?
[08:38] <Tedd> natex: I'm having no luck here.
[08:38] <Goldfish> Ahh...the tool to detect current sensors was /usr/sbin/sensors-detect
[08:39] <poningru> where in the world is ubotu?
[08:39] <Subhuman> rmbrain,  right click the top panel in GNOME, click add to panel, and there is a few harware monitors, but only activity wise and capacity
[08:39] <gnomefreak> poningru,  hes down :(
[08:39] <Subhuman> no temp stuff.
[08:39] <Tedd> Natex: Isn't there some kind of bash command with a diagnostic that can help me? I can tell you exactly what I have: Four speakers and a subwoofer, and an Intel ICH5 sound card. That may be the integrated one, I don't know my real one.
[08:39] <Tedd> Natex: Creative something.
[08:39] <lenaic> wietz0r: look in xorg.conf if your font path is correct
[08:39] <Goldfish> BTW: The sensor stuff is an Debian64 machine. I haven't cracked open the Gnome world of lmsensors.
[08:39] <atchim> got clues subhuman?
[08:40] <Goshawk> is there a firefox extension that make you able to download an entire website?
[08:40] <wietz0r> There is no mentioning of a font path in there
[08:40] <chull> can anyone help me figure out how to sort Icons in the 'My Documents' window?
[08:40] <natex> Tedd, alsamixer can't break anything.
[08:40] <bshumate> wietz0r: weird.  to fix this, you need valid FontPath directive(s) in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Goshawk,  for some reason i remember seeeing something like that in synaptic but i dont remember what it was called im sorry :(
[08:41] <Goldfish> I have seen My Documents since I logged off my Windows XP desktop at work on Thursday. Heh
[08:41] <wietz0r> bshumate: What is the syntax for that ? And where do I put that ?
[08:41] <Goshawk> thx gnomefreak
[08:41] <rmbrain> why did the ubuntu team pick gnome over kde?  is gnome really any better htan kde?
[08:41] <Goldfish> haven't seen
[08:41] <gnomefreak> your home is about the closest youll get to my docs
[08:41] <natex> Tedd, it's just a matter of unmuting what you muted most likely
[08:41] <Subhuman> atchim,  try a google search for "custom keyboard" layout, might be a way to make your own key map.
[08:41] <Subhuman> i cant seem to find one.
[08:41] <poningru> rmbrain: kde is picked as well
[08:41] <chull> Goldfish, it's a carry over from my win2k... i gave it up because of too many viruses, but I want to access those files
[08:41] <Goldfish> Check alsa-mixer
[08:41] <poningru> rmbrain: kubuntu
[08:41] <jakedahn> hey did anyone else have troubles with certian websites when you first installed ubuntu? I just installed it and i can only view some website, sites like google wont load, got any ideas?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> rmbrain, kubuntu=kde desktop xubuntu=xfce desktop
[08:42] <poningru> jakedahn: thats weird
[08:42] <Goldfish> chull: Ahh...have you mounted the disk?
[08:42] <Goshawk> gnomefreak, httrack
[08:42] <lenaic> wietz0r: add in Section "Files"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/local/"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1/"
[08:42] <poningru> jakedahn: does windows allow you to load everything?
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
[08:42] <Tedd> natex: Isn't there some kind of diagnostic to tell me what I should unmute
[08:42] <lenaic> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
[08:42] <rmbrain> gnomefreak, why not just put them all in a giant CD or two?
[08:42] <poningru> lenaic: dont paste stuff here
[08:42] <gnomefreak> httrack?
[08:42] <Tedd> leniac: pastebin
[08:42] <bshumate> yikes lenaic
[08:42] <poningru> !tell lenaic about pastebin
[08:42] <poningru> doh
[08:42] <natex> Tedd, make sure nothing is muted :)
[08:42] <rmbrain> will ubuntu ever fail?  what other distros should i look at?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> rmbrain, you can install them on any version of ubuntu
[08:42] <jakedahn> ponigru: i know, and it does the same thing on my ppc version of ubuntu too, and yes the internet loads fine on Windows, Mac, and other distros of linux
[08:43] <zi99y> jakedahn, sounds like a dns problem, is your router setup properly?
[08:43] <Goldfish> will ubuntu ever fail? What the ?!?!?
[08:43] <lenaic> sorry, i was just lazy
[08:43] <jakedahn> zi99y: i believe so
[08:43] <zi99y> had similar probs after getting dsl connected
[08:43] <Goshawk> gnomefreak, yep, httrack is the application that can download an entire website
[08:43] <gnomefreak> oh ty Goshawk
[08:43] <kicolobo> Hi, how can I make a partition available for read/write to all the users on my computer?
[08:43] <poningru> jakedahn: can you try to ping those sites?
[08:44] <jakedahn> brb lemme try
[08:44] <Subhuman> kicolobo, goto the folder with the mounted hdd, like media, say itz hdb3
[08:44] <poningru> jakedahn: if that doesnt work try a different browser
[08:44] <Subhuman> and do a "sudo chmod 777 hdb3"
[08:44] <Subhuman> should do it.
[08:44] <jakedahn> ponigru: the ping works fine, but i cant load it in the 3 broswers ive tried
[08:44] <chull> Goldfish, yes ty
[08:45] <jakedahn> Flock, Firefox, and Mozilla
[08:45] <poningru> jakedahn: hmm thats weird
[08:45] <Goldfish> chull: You should be able to navigate down its directory path and find our stuff there.
[08:45] <runevi> Damn .  Ubuntu comes with 2.6.12, support for my sata-controllers came in 2.6.13
[08:45] <runevi> :)
[08:45] <poningru> jakedahn: try epiphany
[08:45] <poningru> jakedahn: also try galeon
[08:45] <poningru> those are different browser
[08:45] <jakedahn> ponigru: link?
[08:46] <poningru> jakedahn: just apt-get install epiphany
[08:46] <jakedahn> aight
[08:46] <Kyral> jakedahn: its more like sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[08:46] <jakedahn> yeah
[08:46] <chull> Goldfish, can you elaborate a bit, (I had a stroke.. trying to find myself now)
[08:47] <kicolobo> well, it didn't work
[08:47] <dido`> Hi! I have two lan cards, how do I understand which is eth1 and which is eth0?
[08:47] <kicolobo> only the root user can write to the partition
[08:47] <Kyral> dido`: ifconfig ;P
[08:47] <pmorris> exit
[08:47] <Subhuman> it said that, did you do a sudo before it?
[08:47] <kicolobo> yeap
[08:47] <Subhuman> okay
[08:47] <Subhuman> try this
[08:48] <Mabus06> kicolobo, are you using a sudo enabled account?
[08:48] <Subhuman> sudo -i -H
[08:48] <Subhuman> then do chmod 777 "partition folder"
[08:48] <Subhuman> that surely should do it.
[08:48] <dido`> Kyral i wrote ifconfig but it seems that nothing usefull is written there
[08:48] <gnomefreak> Subhuman, whats the -H do?
[08:48] <Tedd> natex: Got it up, had to change it to channel "4ch".
[08:48] <Tedd> natex: But I think only two of the speakers are working. Is there a way to get all four up.
[08:49] <kicolobo> yes
[08:49] <RQ> hmm
[08:49] <kicolobo> it's the only account I have on this computer
[08:49] <RQ> may I ask again: IS ANYONE RUNNING DAPPER HERE?
[08:49] <Tedd> RQ:
[08:49] <kicolobo> The problem is that I only can write to this partition if I'm on the "sudo mode"
[08:49] <bshumate> Dido : does this show anything : ifconfig -a
[08:49] <Subhuman> kicolobo, then if itz just you why do u want all users to be able to access it?
[08:49] <RQ> I have issues with graphics
[08:49] <Tedd> RQ: What's the topic?
[08:49] <jakedahn> poningru: it says that epiphany isnt in the repositories
[08:49] <gnomefreak> RQ, i will be in a few minutes i hope
[08:49] <jakedahn> how do i edit the list
[08:49] <Kyral> Dido-: Then the only way to know is to check
[08:49] <kicolobo> because I only can write to this partition if I'm accessing it as a sudo user
[08:49] <Mabus06> Oh, guys, I  have a surge proof powerbar that my comp and stuff are connected to.... but there was a real big burst of power and it made my computer make a loud, unhealthy sounding noise. Anyone have anything to suggest I do?
[08:50] <poningru> jakedahn: go to synaptic and search for epiphany
[08:50] <RQ> Tedd, the topic is that graphics are very much messed up for me
[08:50] <poningru> !info epiphany
[08:50] <poningru> damn it
[08:50] <Mabus06> !epiphany
[08:50] <RQ> meanwhile they're not for my friend running dapper too
[08:50] <poningru> no the bot is dead
[08:50] <poningru> damn it where the crap is the bot
[08:50] <Dido-> Kyral :)) now it showed me more stuff, but it claims that the two are the same, when one is integrated in the mother board
[08:50] <jakedahn> poningru: its not in there either
[08:50] <jakedahn> :-\
[08:50] <kicolobo> let me show you my fstab file
[08:50] <gnomefreak> the /topic doesnt say anything about dapper and hasnt for a few days unless changed in last 2hrs
[08:51] <poningru> jakedahn: go to
[08:51] <Kyral> Dido-: I meant plug one in and try and note which one works lol
[08:51] <_lee_> hello guys
[08:51] <kicolobo> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[08:51] <kicolobo> #
[08:51] <kicolobo> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[08:51] <kicolobo> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/hda2       /               reiserfs notail          0       1
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/hda5       /docs           vfat    defaults,user        0       0
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/hda1       /windows        vfat    defaults        0       0
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:51] <poningru> gaaah
[08:51] <poningru> stop pasting here
[08:51] <kicolobo> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:51] <poningru> pastebin
[08:51] <kicolobo> I'm trying to access the /docs partition
[08:51] <gnomefreak> kicolobo,  please dont paste in here use pastebin
[08:51] <kicolobo> ok
[08:51] <natex> kicolobo, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html
[08:51] <_lee_> kicolobo: try pasteing that in #ubunto-flood
[08:51] <poningru> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:51] <kicolobo> ok, sorry
[08:51] <sinclair> gnomefreak: erm, it asked me about different x windows systems or something like that, the options were gdm or kdm
[08:52] <sinclair> i choosed gdm, was it right?
[08:52] <RQ> gnomefreak, is there much left for you till upgrade is finished? ;]
[08:52] <sinclair> or was it gkm? im not sure -_-
[08:52] <gnomefreak> sinclair,  what one do you want as default kde or gnome?
[08:52] <_lee_> anyone know if ubuntu's default kernal offers SMT?
[08:52] <sinclair> gnome
[08:52] <_lee_> sorry, make that SMP
[08:52] <poningru> jakedahn: it should be there
[08:52] <eric> hello all
[08:52] <natex> kicolobo, "/dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat umask=000 0 0"
[08:52] <poningru> sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[08:52] <gnomefreak> RQ,  im not sure
[08:52] <poningru> jakedahn: try it again
[08:52] <RQ> :))
[08:52] <jakedahn> poningru: okie
[08:53] <_lee_> no kernal gurus?
[08:53] <PapaWolf> can anyone help me figure out how to sort Icons in the 'My Documents' window?  It is a carryover from my win2k .. old files on this box. using Ubuntu now.
[08:53] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! I compiled MPlayer 1.0pre7 from the source. The installation was without problems, but I don't find it in the multimedia (audio-video)menu. Why? It runs in terminal, but in GUI?
[08:53] <trappist> leonel: it doesn't.  smp is a separate kernel.
[08:53] <kicolobo> Its working now! Thanks guys!
[08:53] <gooz> sinclair: if you're using gnome gdm probably is the best option :)
[08:53] <_lee_> hmm no one using dual processor boxes?
[08:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hi all, got a weird problem in dapper, I click on the gnome applications button and it flashes the menu, but the disappears
[08:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> any help?
[08:53] <trappist> oops
[08:54] <trappist> _lee_: it doesn't.  smp is a separate kernel.
[08:54] <_lee_> rats.
[08:54] <poningru> ltibor65: dude you have to install from apt
[08:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> love the grub screen in dapper too lol
[08:54] <sinclair> yay, thats good :)
[08:54] <_lee_> I remember RH had an option during install for compiling for the SMP
[08:54] <poningru> _lee_: whats wrong?
[08:54] <trappist> _lee_: you'll find it's that way in every distro.  smp support is a big performance hit on single-proc machines
[08:54] <_lee_> ah ..
[08:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> aw come on guys, I help out all the time, why cant I get no love?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> where the hell were all you people this morning with the dapper issues when i asked :(
[08:55] <poningru> _lee_: you do realize you can just get the smp kernel using apt
[08:55] <_lee_> anyone notice if the option to compile the kernal for smp is presented during install?
[08:55] <poningru> _lee_: no its not
[08:55] <_lee_> poningru: really a noobie on linux setup ..
[08:55] <cramos55> hola
[08:55] <poningru> _lee_: there is only one kernel per cd
[08:55] <poningru> iso
[08:55] <_lee_> I've used linux for years, only installed it a few times.
[08:55] <trappist> _lee_: only gentoo (that I know of, among the big distros) does any kernel compilation at install time.  rh may offer to let you *install* an smp kernel at install time though.
[08:56] <poningru> The_Isle_of_Mark: whats wrong now?
[08:56] <seth_k|away> The_Isle_of_Mark, sudo apt-get remove menu-xdg
[08:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> poningru, hang on let me check out what seth_k|away has to say
[08:57] <_lee_> so someone tell me why I'd want to use ubuntu on my home server box -- as a server and not a desktop -- instead of, say, Slackware?
[08:57] <_lee_> please.
[08:57] <Subhuman> _lee_, easier to admin
[08:57] <Subhuman> and install (from what i can tell with slacks install)
[08:57] <trappist> _lee_: what Subhuman said.  I personally prefer debian as a server distro.
[08:58] <erb> hello
[08:58] <PapaWolf> hi erb
[08:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> poningru, I dont ask many questions though, why make it sound like I do? what's wrong now? :)
[08:58] <erb> anybody uses here Twm under Breezy?
[08:58] <poningru> _lee_: no reason, just use slackware if its easier/better for you
[08:58] <poningru> do whats good for the job
[08:59] <poningru> The_Isle_of_Mark: hehe thats how I ask everyone whats wrong
[08:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> poningru, ok cool
[08:59] <poningru> _lee_: after installation of ubuntu you an switch to the smb kernel from apt
[09:00] <_lee_> I don't know which is good for the job, wasn't sure if ubuntu was more about desktop instead of server ..
[09:00] <Dido-> Is it possible when I set all my setting to create a installation disc which includes them?
[09:00] <erb> sby, helpp me pls, i want to change my ugly grey backgroud to black, write into ~/.xinitrc "xsetroot -solid black" .. but it has no effect, im using Twm
[09:00] <poningru> Dido-: what's wrong now?
[09:00] <_lee_> I think I'll give ubuntu a shot .. mostly because it seems to be getting a lot of attention lately .. I know .. I'm cheap
[09:00] <poningru> Dido-: oh ic
[09:00] <Dido-> poningru i'm just asking ;D
[09:00] <poningru> Dido-: you should check out the oem setting
[09:00] <RQ> sssooooooo.... anyone with weird graphics on Dapper?
[09:01] <poningru> Dido-: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/ubuntu-oem-mode/
[09:01] <gnomefreak> RQ, not yet;)
[09:01] <Dido-> poningru thank you ;)
[09:01] <poningru> RQ: what do you mean?
[09:01] <zwnj> I get this error when try to up2date repos:
[09:01] <zwnj> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[09:01] <zwnj> What can I do?
[09:01] <PapaWolf> _lee_, if it's any consolation my son, a debian originator wants to change his personal box and all home boxes to Ubuntu.
[09:01] <trappist> _lee_: there are things to consider for a server distro besides ease of administration.  there's the reputation of the distro's security team, the release schedule, the priority on stability vs. performance vs. security vs. features etc.
[09:01] <jakedahn> poningru: hmm seems that that doesnt work either, i think im going to go udate my modem firmware and a few other things, buh bye
[09:01] <bshumate> erb : open a terminal, and execute the command : xsetroot -solid black to confirm xsetroot is even working
[09:01] <poningru> jakedahn: k
[09:01] <bshumate> erb: and do you actually *prefer* using twm?  i do not know anyone else on earth using that
[09:02] <erb> bshumate, i have 128Mb ram ...
[09:02] <RQ> poningru, i mean that something is borked on dapper
[09:02] <RQ> for example, button images are misplaced
[09:02] <erb> Twm is a _really_ great wm
[09:02] <poningru> RQ: hmm what vid card do you have?
[09:02] <poningru> oh
[09:02] <gnomefreak> RQ, what are you grafics doing?
[09:02] <RQ> i810
[09:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seth_k|away, there are a LOT of dependencies on menu-xdg, a lot of my kde apps are going to be broken or removed if I do that
[09:02] <_lee_> trappist: very true .. but being a noob, and this being a dev box for home use .. although it will be open to the world via an odd port, the dev teams rep is lower on my list I guess.
[09:03] <RQ> I can put a few screenshots for better illustration
[09:03] <bshumate> erb : there are other WMs which work in lowmem systems... blackbox? fluxbox?  can you get the xsetroot command to change the bg color from a terminal?
[09:03] <TheMuffenMann> erb: Fluxbox is a good window manager
[09:03] <erb> otherwise, bshumate .. xsetroot wors from xterm but i want to use in my own .xinitrc
[09:03] <poningru> RQ: that would be helpfull
[09:03] <RQ> ok.
[09:03] <RQ> just a minute
[09:03] <bshumate> erb: you may need to make an ~/.Xdefaults file, and place the xsetroot cmd in there
[09:04] <Hagge> Since i can choose any packages and everything is the same I guess it doesn't matter but I prefer kde over gnome so does that mean I should install kubuntu instead of ubuntu? I don't think I'll use kde as window manager anyway but what gets me a little worried are if there are some tools or menu settings or whatever which only works in the gnome environment? (or i could just install unbuntu and then add kde apps..)
[09:04] <bshumate> erb: then restart X
[09:04] <_lee_> you guys have a LAMP distro suggested, or simply add each package manually?
[09:04] <TheMuffenMann> Fluxbox is excellent, is based written in C++, uses less memory, and is highly customizable.
[09:04] <erb> hmm, do you think it should work? .. Xdefaults
[09:04] <bshumate> erb: yes, and look into using fluxbox instead of twm!
[09:04] <Hagge> TheMuffenMann: should c++ be something on the good side?
[09:04] <TheMuffenMann> yes
[09:04] <Dido-> Kyral ;) i toke you advice, and now the eth0 is missing ;) what should i do to see it again
[09:05] <erb> ok, thanks
[09:05] <zwnj> I get this error when try to up2date repos:
[09:05] <TheMuffenMann> C++ is efficient, high-performance code
[09:05] <zwnj> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[09:05] <zwnj> What can I do?
[09:05] <seth_k|away> The_Isle_of_Mark, ah... then I think you're going to be out of luck, it's a bug in that package and I don't know any other way to get rid of it :(
[09:06] <RQ> gnomefreak, poningru, http://lmta.lt/~rq/dapper/
[09:07] <gnomefreak> zwnj, it looks like that is your cd repos try commenting it out and re-running sudo apt-get update
[09:07] <battlecat> Hi.
[09:07] <battlecat> How is the room today?
[09:07] <battlecat> I am just getting used to the Ubuntu setup I have.
[09:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seth_k|away, a bug in what package?
[09:07] <recon0> i really screwed up the X configuration, is there any way to set it back to defaults (backup didn't work) short of reinstalling ubuntu AGAIN?
[09:08] <bshumate> _lee_ : i always compile everything individually, as the all-in-one collections either don't have all i need, or come with too much, plus, you learn more that way ;-)
[09:08] <zwnj> gnomefreak: but it's already in comments
[09:08] <Dido-> I'm trying to set up a home network, so I wonder, what is DHCP?
[09:08] <RQ> gnomefreak, poningru any ideas?
[09:08] <Hagge> are dapper "unstable" or the current release?
[09:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seth_k|away, the menu-xdg?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> unstable
[09:08] <seth_k|away> The_Isle_of_Mark, it seems to be a problem with menu-xdg. Another person suggested removing /etc/menu-methods/*xdg* but I haven't tested that.
[09:09] <PapaWolf> Dido-, do you happen to know how to find the ip to my priter (new setup of Ubuntu) ??
[09:09] <idefix> how is the directory called in which ubuntu installs itself?
[09:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seth_k|away, it seems that killing gam_server stops it...I guess that works as a temporary fix
[09:09] <HymnToLife> idefix > /
[09:09] <dandelion> idefix: it's called '/'
[09:09] <bshumate> Dido : http://www.dhcp-handbook.com/dhcp_faq.html
[09:09] <Dido-> PapaWolf sorry, i dont understand you
[09:09] <seth_k|away> The_Isle_of_Mark, alright, I'll add that to the noted fixes, cheers
[09:10] <Dido-> bshumate thanks
[09:10] <poningru> RQ: looking
[09:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> seth_k|away, np, you pointed me in the right direction though :) thanks
[09:10] <gnomefreak> RQ, you can try to reconfigure xserver
[09:10] <PapaWolf> Dido-, the printer is shared to the other boxes on the network. This is for all intents a new box. HOW do I get Ubuntu to work with my hp printer?
[09:10] <RQ> gnomefreak, i tried it
[09:10] <RQ> :))
[09:11] <RQ> lol
[09:11] <RQ> FONTS got smaller
[09:11] <zwnj> gnomefreak: here are the full output of *apt-get update*
[09:11] <zwnj> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FEmqDX33.html
[09:11] <mwgbc_> I'm having trouble finding what I need to install pgadmin III on my ubuntu dist.  any ideas?
[09:11] <RQ> gnomefreak, you can see that in the last screenshot
[09:11] <Dido-> PapaWolf lol you're not asking the right guy ;)
[09:11] <RQ> and shit remained
[09:11] <RQ> then i've put back the backup of xorf.cfg
[09:11] <RQ> and still fonts are small :)
[09:13] <RQ> i'll probably just restart my Xserver
[09:13] <RQ> wait a few secs
[09:13] <gnomefreak> zwnj, can you paste your sources.list on pastebin?
[09:14] <kiran_> dd
[09:14] <zwnj> gnomefreak: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FnhiFc52.html
[09:15] <sammy76> anyone help me mount my cd-roms
[09:15] <zwnj> sammy76: what's the problem?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ummmmmm zwnj why the spaces in the sources list? they should be / not spaces
[09:16] <odal> anyone know how to change your icon theme in xfce?  i know that this is the gnome room but i've asked in #xubuntu to no avail
[09:16] <recon0> on various applications I run, i keep on getting "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:16] <recon0> ".
[09:16] <RQ> hm
[09:16] <RQ> fonts are still small
[09:16] <RQ> dammit
[09:16] <RQ> mmmmmmmantas
[09:16] <zwnj> gnomefreak: where exactly?
[09:16] <recon0> !xorg.conf
[09:17] <recon0> can anybody help with the above?
[09:17] <PapaWolf> *sigh* <chalcedony> WHERE to ask how to set up stuff on PapaWolf's new ubuntu ???
[09:18] <gnomefreak> zwnj, you have spaces all over the list breezy shouldnt be out in middle of nowhere 1 full line should run together
[09:18] <RQ> brb
[09:18] <recon0> brb
[09:19] <gnomefreak> zwnj,  if you go into pastebin and search for breezy sources you will see a bunch of examples
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ill brb i hope ;)
[09:20] <fishhead> http://flyback.databurn.net/new_room
[09:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> finally got dri working on my savage twister video laptop
[09:20] <sammy76> i'm having some problems with breezy and my nic, wonder if i could get some help
[09:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> woot! for lack of a better term
[09:22] <fishhead> mark give via a hard time they are trying to support linux better
[09:22] <fishhead> cause it's a good match for their c3 and c7 cpu's
[09:22] <fishhead> they own s3
[09:22] <RQ> k...
[09:23] <skulrid> hi ppl
[09:23] <Determinist> hell, i think i've never ever seen such good icons
[09:23] <Determinist> jairoboudewyn.com <--- this guy... there's no word for how talented he is lol
[09:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> fishhead it is an older chip, I don't know if they will care
[09:23] <skulrid> Ive got here svgalib, but I dont know how to install it, any help plz!
[09:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> fishhead, also part of the problem is that breezy ships with xorg 6.8.xxx dri on savage only works on 6.9.xxx or higher
[09:25] <fishhead> ah :/
[09:25] <fishhead> well good luck
[09:25] <_jason> Determinist, wow those are nice
[09:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> fishhead, thanks, got it now :) about 8 times better fps on glxgears
[09:26] <Determinist> _jason, indeed, been wondering if i wanna create myself an iconset from these, for personal use, of course
[09:26] <RQ> poningru, so how about the graphics? any ideas?
[09:26] <fishhead> well my laptops are 2d only
[09:26] <fishhead> so i don't have much to worry aout :P
[09:27] <odie5533> is Sun java faster on windows or ubuntu?
[09:28] <techrush> hi
[09:28] <Determinist> have you guys noticed that every good looking screenshot has italian or french languages in the titles? these guys can really design their stuff :P
[09:28] <skulrid> Ive got here svgalib, but I dont know how to install it, any help plz!
[09:28] <amias> lo all
[09:28] <RQ> Determinist, maybe you're just looking at the screenshots of the same software? ;P
[09:28] <masteryuri> i have a .deb, how can i install it?
[09:28] <masteryuri> by terminal
[09:29] <Determinist> RQ, gnome-look mate...
[09:29] <odie5533> sudo dpkg -i <package>
[09:29] <amias> i'm having problems doing dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper
[09:29] <amias> python won't compile , its complaining about null bytes
[09:29] <masteryuri> thanks odie5533, what means this option "-i" ?
[09:29] <amias> i cant find anthing on google about it , anyone got any ideas how i can fix this ?
[09:29] <odie5533> install
[09:30] <masteryuri> thanks ;)
[09:31] <Mabus06> How come when I set a key combo to swich through workplaces, it drags gedit along with it?
[09:32] <skulrid> Ive got here svgalib, but I dont know how to install it, any help plz!
[09:32] <Taxman> to run giFTgui do I need to install something like gtk-gnutella first
[09:32] <amias> skulrid: is it a .deb ?
[09:32] <Taxman> lo btw
[09:32] <fishhead> skul did you try the doc labeled install
[09:32] <fishhead> :P
[09:32] <techrush> im looking to setup a dual boot situation on my laptop...should i install windows before ubuntu ?
[09:32] <skulrid> no
[09:33] <Mabus06> yes techrush
[09:33] <Taxman> techrush, yup
[09:33] <chalcedony> yes
[09:33] <techrush> ok thanks
[09:33] <amias> techrush: yes its easier that way
[09:33] <chalcedony> windows doesn't like to be second
[09:33] <Mabus06> techrush, windows tends to.. take over your system upon installation.
[09:33] <skulrid> amias, no ->tar
[09:33] <Mabus06> Windows dislikes sloppy seconds.
[09:33] <Hagge> amias: compile? do you need to compile anything in a dist which uses deb-packages? and also "complaining about null bytes" isn't that describing ;)
[09:33] <techrush> yea i kinda figured....
[09:33] <zwnj> crimsun: ok
[09:33] <amias> Hagge: as part of the dpkg configure it compiles python 2.4
[09:34] <crimsun> zwnj: ''sudo apt-get -s install libxml++2.6c2'' confirms that "Conf libxml++2.6c2 (2.12.0-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:5.10/breezy)"
[09:34] <Hagge> techrush: just skip windows or you'll find yourself sitting in it all the time anyway ;)
[09:34] <Mabus06> what's wrong with ubotu
[09:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> techrush it is definately possible to install windows after ubuntu, but it is a bit more difficult
[09:34] <Hagge> amias: k
[09:34] <Taxman> ok flame all ye like, but are there any reputable bittorrent search/listing left?
[09:34] <techrush> i unfortunately still need windows
[09:34] <techrush> so skipping it is not an option im affraid :(
[09:34] <Mabus06> Taxman, I use mininova.org
[09:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Taxman, isohunt?
[09:34] <amias> Taxman: apparently piratebay.org is ok
[09:35] <Mabus06> No, mininova.org beats the pants off of piratebay
[09:35] <Hagge> Taxman: filelist? swebits? there are a bunch of ones which requires registring which is ok
[09:35] <techrush> piratebay is dying
[09:35] <crimsun> zwnj: note the filename you're trying to install. It's older, i.e., pre- CXX transition. Breezy already went through the transition.
[09:35] <Hagge> amias: pirate bay sucks
[09:35] <amias> chalcedony: you are in the right place ask again
[09:35] <crimsun> zwnj: you need to install the c2 version
[09:35] <Hagge> slow, no seedes, no quality at all
[09:35] <Hagge> +r
[09:35] <techrush> torrentspy.com and mininova are the best now i think
[09:36] <Taxman> cool, thanks
[09:36] <zwnj> crimsun: i have problems with repos http://rafb.net/paste/results/FEmqDX33.html
[09:36] <nasdaq7> hi i was wondering: how many Ubuntu users are there?
[09:36] <zwnj> crimsun: so i tried to install in manually and got the file from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[09:36] <neighborlee> do 'export' lines go in bashrc or bashrc_profile..or does it matter ?
[09:37] <chalcedony> amias, my husband has a new install of ubuntu. I know next to nothing. Our son is out of town for an extended period. We need the printer to work with his box. ALSO he wants to sort his remaining windows 2k icons.
[09:37] <Hagge> nasdaq7: guess noone knows
[09:37] <neighborlee> nasdaq7, too many to count
[09:37] <crimsun> zwnj: the problem is that you got the wrong file.
[09:37] <neighborlee> nasdaq7, ;-)
[09:37] <crimsun> zwnj: notice your file lacks "c2" in the filename
[09:37] <zwnj> crimsun: so where's the breezy version?
[09:38] <zwnj> crimsun: i couldn't find on archive.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <Stormx2> is ubotu still ill?
[09:38] <nosralboo> whats wrong with this mount script?
[09:38] <nosralboo> wait hold on
[09:39] <crimsun> zwnj: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libx/libxml++2.6/libxml++2.6c2_2.12.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:39] <nosralboo> whats wrong with this script:
[09:39] <nosralboo> #!/bin/bash
[09:39] <nosralboo> # Mount NTFS drive in winHD1
[09:39] <nosralboo> sudo mkdir /media/winHD1
[09:39] <nosralboo> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/winHD1/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:39] <NetGrunt> hi there ubuntuers
[09:40] <NetGrunt> Does anybody know why UBUNTU is shipping with Evince as the default PDF viewer if it's SLOW AS HELL ? At least compared to XPDF
[09:40] <crimsun> nosralboo: why not put that in /etc/fstab ?
[09:40] <nosralboo> oooooo good idea
[09:41] <Hagge> nosralboo: why do you use it as a script to begin with? why not change /etc/fstab instead?
[09:41] <nosralboo> yea your right, right now all it does it makes it till next restart
[09:41] <crimsun> nosralboo: /dev/hda1  /media/winHD1  ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222  0  0
[09:41] <londonboi2k3> Strange thing, volume control is missing in the panel, and I am unable to add it, anyone else getting this on breezy
[09:41] <nosralboo> because I don't like to always have it mounted
[09:42] <crimsun> nosralboo: so instead of nls=utf8,umask=0222  use  nls=utf8,umask=0222,noauto
[09:42] <amias> crimsun: its a shell script not an fstab
[09:42] <nosralboo> I just want to make a script because it's easier for other people(my friends) to use it
[09:42] <crimsun> amias: and it's better to use fstab.
[09:42] <amias> crimsun: yep indeed
[09:42] <LoneWolf071> When I compiler A GUI Program For ubuntu, I Get A GTK+-2.0 not installed error
[09:43] <LoneWolf071> Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0)
[09:43] <crimsun> LoneWolf071: so install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:43] <nosralboo> but can I make a script out of that
[09:43] <crimsun> nosralboo: why make a script?
[09:43] <crimsun> nosralboo: your script's functionality already exists
[09:43] <nosralboo> so my friends can do it without having to type all that stuff
[09:43] <LoneWolf071> crimsun, Thanks
[09:43] <amias> nosralboo: if you put it in fstab and set noauto for the mount in question it will only mount if you mount it but will always get the same options
[09:43] <crimsun> nosralboo: sudo mount /dev/hda1
[09:44] <Taxman> do you have to login to torrentspy to get access to the peers?
[09:44] <anthony> Hi! I am trying to install flashplayer-mozilla in Ubuntu 5.10, but apt-get cannoet find it
[09:44] <anthony> Anyone who can tell me how to find this app?
[09:44] <crimsun> anthony: use flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.
[09:45] <amias> anthony: have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories ?
[09:45] <anthony> crimsun: Does it work with FireFox?
[09:45] <_jason> crimsun, what is the difference between the two packages (flash)
[09:45] <crimsun> flashplayer-mozilla is illegal and should not have been distributed. It will be gone in Dapper.
[09:45] <_jason> oh...
[09:45] <anthony> amias: " main restricted universe multiverse"
[09:45] <Dr_Acemaster> illegal?
[09:45] <crimsun> _jason: we're not allowed to distribute the binary according to the EULA.
[09:45] <Dr_Acemaster> ahh
[09:46] <reywob> Hi, I'm trying to find a version of python2.4-mysqldb > 1.1.6 that will install on Ubuntu 5.10?  The debian package fails with a libc6 version problem
[09:46] <crimsun> flashplugin-nonfree uses a ruby script to download and install the plugin
[09:46] <techrush> thats stupid
[09:46] <gratuit> crimsun: will there be a wrapper that'll download it?
[09:46] <gratuit> ah
[09:46] <gratuit> ok
[09:46] <techrush> flash is annoying anyways tho
[09:46] <reywob> and all the ubuntu repositories appear to have old versions
[09:46] <_jason> crimsun, so they are the same thing except installed in a different manner?
[09:46] <anthony> I couldn't find flashplugin-nonfree too
[09:46] <crimsun> anthony: you don't have multiverse enabled
[09:46] <nosralboo> could someone tell me an easy way to install from a binary??
[09:46] <crimsun> _jason: essentially
[09:47] <gratuit> nosralboo: what do you mean?
[09:47] <crimsun> one's illegal, the other's blessed by Macromedia
[09:47] <nosralboo> like to download the stuff
[09:47] <_jason> crimsun, lol ok I see
[09:47] <nosralboo> instead of using repositories
[09:47] <GNULinuxer> crimsun: Adobe to be precise
[09:47] <gratuit> nosralboo: is it a .deb, a .bin, a .sh or somethign else?
[09:47] <zwnj> crimsun: thanks :)
[09:47] <nosralboo> tar.gz
[09:47] <nosralboo> thats source
[09:47] <_jason> anthony, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list if you're having trouble enabling multiverse
[09:47] <nosralboo> isn't it?
[09:48] <Determinist> any idea how i could change the default icon of the gnome-menu into some other icon? what .png file is used?
[09:48] <anthony> _jason:
[09:48] <anthony> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:48] <anthony> deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:48] <anthony> isn't it okay?
[09:48] <gratuit> nosralboo: it's an archive, anything could be inside it, check the wiki on comiling software, I bet there is something there
[09:48] <_jason> anthony, no, that's for backports
[09:48] <anthony> ups
[09:48] <Taxman> is gnutella not available to install?
[09:48] <nosralboo> gratuit:yea alright thanks
[09:49] <_jason> anthony, look for the lines that has "breezy universe" and add multiverse to it if it isn't there
[09:49] <chrisx1> Taxman, gtk-gnutella
[09:49] <anthony> _jason: so it should be like:
[09:49] <anthony> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[09:49] <anthony> deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[09:49] <anthony> ?
[09:50] <_jason> anthony, yes, that will give you multiverse
[09:50] <anthony> _jason: thanks a lot so far
[09:50] <reywob> I upgraded my box from Hoary to Breezy (I'm pretty sure!) yet my sources.list still points for hoary?
[09:50] <Taxman> chrisx1, it didn't come up in a search, hmm
[09:50] <_jason> reywob, how did you upgrade
[09:50] <chrisx1> shud do
[09:50] <reywob> apt-get upgrade
[09:50] <anthony> _jason: My first time using Ubuntu - I am a FreeBSD-guy ;-)
[09:51] <chrisx1> theres debs for it (newer versions) on sourceforge
[09:51] <_jason> reywob, what does 'lsb_release -r' return?
[09:51] <chrisx1> theres debs for it (newer versions) on sourceforge Taxman
[09:51] <atchim> hi their..
[09:51] <Taxman> anthony, heh, same here
[09:51] <reywob> hmmm, still 5.04 _jason
[09:51] <chrisx1> hey atchim
[09:51] <atchim> err... could someone help with configure of a laptop keyboard?
[09:52] <atchim> on pt?
[09:52] <anthony> Does anyone know if Ubuntu works with VMware GSX (Ubuntu as host)
[09:52] <Taxman> christel, oh, I was just looking to add it through the add applications utility
[09:52] <_jason> reywob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:52] <chrisx1> Taxman, it doesnt come installed
[09:52] <atchim> and on  breeze.. yes... :(
[09:52] <odal> ff1.5 isn't in backports is it?
[09:52] <Taxman> right, but I assumed it would be in multiverse or something
[09:53] <hussam> anybody here uses thunderbird?
[09:53] <_jason> odal, nope, search the forums for a sticky on it for more info
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for suggestions of ways to get a lot of files back and forth between my laptop running Ubuntu and another running Windows XP.
[09:53] <cowbud> hussam: yah what is your problem?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> hussam: Yes.
[09:53] <odal> -jason: thanks
[09:53] <chrisx1> if u use apt its older version Taxman better goin to sourceforge and getting the deb
[09:53] <reywob> _jason: ta.  Pre-upgrade notes - as I'm running a server box I'd just install ubuntu-base metapackage?
[09:53] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: smb?
[09:53] <zwnj> crimsun: i try to ./configure synfig, but it says: checking for libxml++-2.6... checking for libxml++-1.0... configure: error:  ** You need to install libxml++, either verison 2.6 or 1.0.
[09:53] <zwnj> :(
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> odal: No, you have to get it directly from Mozilla.
[09:53] <NetGrunt> Does anybody know why UBUNTU is shipping with Evince as the default PDF viewer if it's SLOW AS HELL ? At least compared to XPDF
[09:53] <_jason> tonyyarusso, create a fat32 partition to transfer files
[09:53] <Taxman> ok, sound good, chrisx1, thanks
[09:53] <action09> hi all ! anybody installed , make a package or test SnortCenter on Ubuntu please ?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: Are you familiar with setting that up?
[09:53] <odal> tonyyarusso: well i don't care that much about getting ff1.5 then
[09:53] <hussam> tonyyarusso , cowbud: I just want a copy of the thunderbird.desktop file
[09:54] <odal> i've used it before...doesn't seem to be much different
[09:54] <chrisx1> i use the one of sourceforge Taxman
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> _jason: I need to get them to another computer.
[09:54] <cowbud> hussam: alright ill send it to ya..
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> odal: Fair enough.
[09:54] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: sure there are lots of faqs also..
[09:54] <hussam> cowbud: Ok, thanks :)
[09:55] <_jason> tonyyarusso, oops, umm you can transfer them over ssh
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: I tried it once before and didn't succeed, so I'm looking for some help.
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> _jason: What's that?
[09:55] <chrisx1> 1912 items, totalling 2.5 GB <- shocking lolz all music:D
[09:55] <hussam> cowbud: thank you :)
[09:55] <atchim> can someone help with ubuntu breeze, laptop asus l3c and a awfull keyboard configuration?..
[09:55] <_jason> tonyyarusso, winscp is a nice client for transfering files over ssh on windows
[09:55] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver did you look there?
[09:55] <cowbud> that is pretty much step by step what you need to do
[09:56] <atchim> or a awfull  breeze... :(
[09:56] <sorush20> what is a good backup program?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: Am I supposed to just be able to set up some config files on mine, and have the Windows box magically register it in the Network Neighborhood?  How's that work?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: Yeah, but I don't really understand everything.
[09:56] <_jason> tonyyarusso, allows you to remotely login to your computer... but yeah I think samba is the way to go.  I don't know too much about it however.
[09:56] <atchim> someone?
[09:56] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: essentially you set that up then you just go to start run \\yourip and you will see your shares..
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> _jason: All right, I'll see if I can get that figured out.
[09:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> tonyyarusso, check out system >> administration >> shared folders and setup samba
[09:57] <WeBsPaCe> Is anyone here who's informed about terminal servers in ubuntu oder edubuntu?
[09:57] <_jason> reywob, I think those meta packages are just so it pulls in all the upgrades so I *think* you should be fine
[09:57] <dm> whats the command for a dist-upgrade?
[09:57] <secureboot> i'm trying to find out which /dev/usb? device my printer is hooked up to - anyone have an idea how to do this?  i dont' understand the lsusb output
[09:58] <secureboot> which does show my printer... but i dont' knwo which /dev/usb it corresponds to
[09:58] <secureboot> it says Bus 003 Device 002
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: Now how is it that an IP that I just make up would be seen by another computer, since I'm not actually like a registered server or anything, I can just run iwconfig, so what's that do as far as other machines are concerned?
[09:58] <zwnj> crimsun: what's the diff of c2 and c2a?
[09:58] <_lee_> Can you do a text only install of Ubuntu?
[09:58] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: do you know how to network two computers?
[09:59] <_lee_> that is, have it not install GUI packages at all?
[09:59] <amias> dm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <atchim> has someone already configured a keboard on ubuntu breeze with portuguese layout?
[09:59] <LaserJock> _lee_:yeah, I think you type server when the install cd  boots
[09:59] <Swedish_Chef> when is ubuntu getting the latest openoffice? :/
[09:59] <_lee_> cool
[10:00] <linx_> the correct nvidia drivers are the ia32 right?
[10:00] <shingoki> How come gpac is in multiverse, but can't install due to missing libavcodecs2?
[10:00] <WeBsPaCe> Really no one who knows about terminal servers in ubuntu or edubuntu?
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> The_Isle_of_Mark: Oh you've gotta be kidding.   Windows has broadcasts that allow the discovery of peer machines on the network. Setup a samba share and make sure it is in the same workgroup as your M$ machines
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: I set up a 3-machine Windows network at home to share some files and an internet connection, all wired.  This one would be wireless, which complicates things I think.
[10:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> tonyyarusso, they have. you might want to read up a little on samba shares, but it isnt TOO complex. If you know windows networkign, it all makes sense.
[10:01] <B7su4> is there an programs availiable for ubuntu resembling limewire?
[10:01] <Determinist> Swedish_Chef, apparently with the next release. once a release has been released, it's only major bug fixes, no newer versions of applications
[10:01] <coag> how do i reconfigure x?
[10:01] <coinbird> hello everyone
[10:01] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: can you ping the other computers (ping ip address) from the wireless client?
[10:01] <jojko> hello
[10:01] <linx_> are these the drivers i need to install my nvidia card? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html
[10:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:02] <coag> thank you
[10:02] <amias> how can i clear the list of packages apt is trying to install so i can install others ?
[10:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> linx_, no, use synaptics after you enable the restricted modules
[10:02] <WeBsPaCe> Really no one who knows about terminal servers in ubuntu or edubuntu?
[10:02] <kamme> hiya, I have a question, how can I chane the ubuntu icon on the 'start button'?
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: I didn't succeed at it before, but I don't think I had configured them right.  As I understand it, I need to set both to ad-hoc wireless mode, on the same subnet, and I'm not really sure from there.
[10:02] <Taxman> jeez I feel like  a newb again. so where does synaptic expect the package to be so I can install the deb I dl'd
[10:02] <chaoticgeek> hey guys
[10:02] <linx_> they are older drivers tho
[10:02] <Taxman> heya
[10:02] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: well how are you connecting your client do you have an AP?
[10:03] <linx_> and all the graphics are messed up and low fps
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: AP?
[10:03] <Mabus06> No, mininova.org beats the pants off of piratebay
[10:03] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: Access point
[10:03] <chaoticgeek> I'm having problems with my hdrive for windows under kubutnu. The guys in kubuntu could not help me so I came here
[10:03] <Mabus06> errr
[10:03] <Mabus06> How come when I set a key combo to swich through workplaces, it drags gedit along with it?
[10:03] <coag> So in order to set up dual monitors
[10:04] <coag> i will have to set up two screens with the correct devices?
[10:04] <chaoticgeek> I want to read/write/execute to the h drive, and i have it up so that I own the drive and I can read from it.
[10:04] <pete__> hi i was wondering how i would go about changing the colors etc, of an ubuntu install?
[10:04] <_jason> Mabus06, are you sure you set the right preference?  there is one that sends the current task to next workspace
[10:04] <pete__> can linux be skinned like windows?
[10:04] <chaoticgeek> How ever I can not write to it and I made it so I could, but it still would not let me
[10:04] <Mabus06> _jason, yes... this only happens with gedit
[10:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag yes, but you'll need to do some reading on that. it isnt hard, but it does require research
[10:04] <_jason> pete gnome-look.org
[10:04] <pete__> ty jason
[10:04] <coag> The_Isle_of_Mark: alrighty
[10:04] <B7su4> is there an programs availiable for ubuntu resembling limewire?or how can i enable Gnutella?
[10:05] <eobanb> B7su4, check out Cabos
[10:05] <amias> pete__: yes , but only windows deserves it ;-)
[10:05] <Mabus06> B7su4, limewire is available from Seveas' repo
[10:05] <reywob> If I am not using the X server, do I need x-common installed?
[10:05] <Taxman> pete, yes, you change windowmanagers
[10:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> reywob, no, you dont
[10:05] <Mabus06> pete__, also, check out themes under preferences
[10:05] <kamme> Noone can help me with changing the icon on ubuntu's programs button?
[10:05] <kong0> !! Need help! i installed java runtime edition and then i tried to install azureus but azureus say 2 files are missing; libseda-java and libswt-gtk-3.1.  i couldn't find theese in synaptics either...
[10:05] <B7su4> Mabus06, how do i get it?
[10:05] <reywob> then why does apt-get dist-upgrade want to install it?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> cowbud: Ah.  The two computers normally connect to the internet through two separate access points on the external modems we have, hooking up to two separate DSL lines for separate internet connections (it's a university).  To connect to each other I figured we could go computer to computer directly with the built-in wireless antennas.
[10:06] <Mabus06> B7su4, I'd ask ubotu for you, but he's down and out... ask seveas or someone else who might know how to add his repo
[10:06] <Determinist> pete__, define skinned?
[10:06] <anthony> _jason: is it a problem to mix different repositories. I know that e.g. Fedora disencourages people to mix rpms from different repositories
[10:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> reywob, you have it installed now?
[10:06] <decklin> does the x-terminal-emulator alternative shipped in breezy point to gnome-terminal?
[10:06] <Dr_Acemaster> how come I see many using apt-get when synaptic takes care of most installs?
[10:06] <kisly> hallo!
[10:06] <B7su4> Seveas, how add you repo?
[10:06] <coag> The_Isle_of_Mark: actually what i was planning to do was have one monitor have X on it, and to have the other one be a console
[10:06] <cowbud> tonyyarusso: yah I am sorry but via irc all this to explain is just too complicated you need someone to look at your setup and sit down and explain it to you
[10:06] <_jason> anthony, sorry, is what a problem?
[10:06] <peter_> hi! can anyone paste his/hers /etc/samba/smb.conf? I really need a working samba.
[10:06] <kong0> U'r spamming my cry for help away :'(
[10:06] <eobanb> Dr_Acemaster, they're the same thing
[10:06] <coag> but during ubuntu set up it setup the wrong video card
[10:06] <reywob> The_Isle_of_Mark: not quite sure how to check but don't think so as it's in the "New" package list
[10:07] <Determinist> pete__, what do you want changed? because everything can pretty much be changed to look like you want it to with enough tweaking
[10:07] <Mabus06> Dr_Acemaster, because, some people like the simplicity of the terminal. I do. I used synaptic when I started but now I use apt-get.
[10:07] <Dr_Acemaster> eobanb: so apt-get from command line
[10:07] <peter_> Then just tell me what i need to alter
[10:07] <Dr_Acemaster> gotcha
[10:07] <eobanb> Dr_Acemaster, synaptic is just a GUI for apt-get
[10:07] <kong0> I'll try get attention with this...
[10:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag, I havent set one up like that before.   Thanks anyway though.  I'll get it eventually...
[10:07] <pete__> just wanted a cool theme.
[10:07] <_jason> anthony, that would be correct (watch the language in here though please)
[10:07] <amias> can i make dist-upgrade skip a package ?
[10:07] <kong0> Need help! i installed java runtime edition and then i tried to install azureus but azureus say 2 files are missing; libseda-java and libswt-gtk-3.1.  i couldn't find theese in synaptics either...
[10:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> reywob, sudo apt-get install apt-show-verisions
[10:08] <pete__> on gnome-look.org
[10:08] <anthony> _jason: sorry about the language - my mistake
[10:08] <pete__> do i want the gdm themes?
[10:08] <Determinist> pete__, ok, i'll try helping you then, what do you want changed and have you visited http://www.gnome-look.org yet?
[10:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> reywob, then sudo apt-show-versions | grep -i x-common
[10:08] <pete__> yea i got gone-look open
[10:08] <Mabus06> How come when I set a key combo to swich through workplaces, it drags gedit along with it?
[10:08] <pete__> and i changed to a theme ubuntu came with
[10:08] <pete__> it looks ok
[10:08] <pete__> i was hoping for a cool black one though,
[10:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag, a maximized teminal emu?
[10:08] <Knowerrors> hey all, I just installed xubuntu-desktop, but when I select xfce from the kdm login, I just get the mouse wallpaper, no xfce panel or even a right click menu, know how to fix this anybody?
[10:08] <_jason> anthony, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <-- those are generally okay but you probably want to stick with just main restricted universe multiverse unless you really need something else from one of the others
[10:09] <_lee_> so, anyone know the fastest mirror to download ubuntu?
[10:09] <x999> nalioth
[10:09] <anthony> _jason: thanks
[10:09] <kong0> Need help! i installed java runtime edition and then i tried to install azureus but azureus say 2 files are missing; libseda-java and libswt-gtk-3.1.  i couldn't find theese in synaptics either...
[10:09] <peter_> hi! can anyone paste his/hers /etc/samba/smb.conf? I really need a working samba.
[10:09] <Determinist> pete__, there's a plethora of options, from a terminal type "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"
[10:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Knowerrors, xubuntu has its own support network
[10:09] <Knowerrors> its dead in there
[10:09] <AndyR> _lee_, that depends where you are
[10:09] <_lee_> states .. southeast
[10:09] <pete__> k Determinist: it's downloading
[10:09] <pete__> im so glad i dont use windows anymore
[10:09] <Mabus06> peter_, google is your friend
[10:09] <RQ> Knowerrors, breezy?
[10:10] <Determinist> pete__, once that's done you should have system->preferences->art manager
[10:10] <kong0> Need help! i installed java runtime edition and then i tried to install azureus but azureus say 2 files are missing; libseda-java and libswt-gtk-3.1.  i couldn't find theese in synaptics either...
[10:10] <cvt_> kong0, try searching for "sun" in synaptic, i think
[10:10] <Knowerrors> RQ: yeah
[10:10] <Determinist> pete__, yes, me too :)
[10:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Knowerrors, xubuntu isnt ready for prime time anyway
[10:10] <cvt_> kong0, oh nm
[10:10] <RQ> Knowerrors, hmm weird
[10:10] <RQ> i have XFCE running with no problems
[10:10] <RQ> well.. i HAD
[10:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> RQ xfce or xubuntu?
[10:10] <johndarkhorse> x999: nalioth is at work at the taxi company
[10:10] <RQ> now i'm in dapper
[10:10] <pete__> yes Determinish: i have it now.
[10:10] <squidbullets> is nalioth about?
[10:10] <Knowerrors> RQ: how did you install it?
[10:10] <pete__> what do i do?
[10:10] <peter_> today google is my enemi
[10:11] <RQ> The_Isle_of_Mark, xfce on ubuntu
[10:11] <johndarkhorse> squidbullets: did you copy transmission?
[10:11] <mister_roboto> peter_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5578
[10:11] <RQ> Knowerrors, apt-cache search xfce, apt-get install what-i-want
[10:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> RQ yeah installed after installation of ubuntu, right?
[10:11] <reywob> The_Isle_of_Mark: not installed
[10:11] <DarkOra> for some reason i get an error sayin it cant access the auth file
[10:11] <johndarkhorse> squidbullets: you're attempts at frequency hopping may have garbled transmission
[10:11] <_jason> pete__, why? try http://clusty.com/
[10:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> reywob, then it is a default package of the upgrade. remove it when it is done
[10:11] <dylan_> hello ... im having a problem with an Ubuntu and Windows XP machine.  whenever i have both machines online at the same time, the WinXP machine says that there is an IP address conflict on the network
[10:11] <RQ> The_Isle_of_Mark, yup
[10:12] <dylan_> what do i do
[10:12] <pete__> cool the artmanager is downloading things for me
[10:12] <reywob> ok cheers
[10:12] <reywob> doesn't make sense but oh well..
[10:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dylan dhcp or static ip address?
[10:12] <Knowerrors> RQ: I installed xubuntu-desktop metapackage
[10:12] <defiance> Humdidum.
[10:12] <peter_> thanks! u think it will work?
[10:12] <B7su4> how di install bin files?
[10:12] <RQ> Knowerrors, yup I saw that
[10:12] <Taxman> eeh, Tony
[10:13] <mister_roboto> peter_: i'm using that on my system to share some home dirs on the linux box
[10:13] <jojko> Hello, i need to set up this TV-card AIMS Tv Live Bt 787A, Tuner Pfilips NTSC2 Could you help me with it?
[10:13] <mister_roboto> peter_: i'm no samba guru but that works
[10:13] <Knowerrors> RQ: I searched for xfce and looks like I have em all installed
[10:13] <peter_> NICE
[10:13] <dylan_> how do i change my ip address?
[10:13] <RQ> Knowerrors, you should have  :)
[10:13] <RQ> Knowerrors, you may try #xfce
[10:13] <Stormx2> dylan_: Your internal IP or external?
[10:14] <czr> dylan_, Systen/Administration/Networking
[10:14] <dylan_> Stormx2, both
[10:14] <B7su4> how di install bin files?
[10:14] <RQ> Knowerrors, however, XFCE might just be waiting for something
[10:14] <Mabus06> How come when I set a key combo to swich through workplaces, it drags gedit along with it?
[10:14] <B7su4> how do i install bin files?
[10:14] <RQ> like for the network to come up
[10:14] <RQ> or so
[10:14] <dnB> hi, looking in synaptic it says that 2.4.4 is the newest version of xchat, but other ubuntu users i've versioned seem to be using 2.6, anyone wanna fill me in? (i thought of compiling from source, however i dont know how to edit ./configure in order to get it to install to /usr/bin/ instead of /usr/local/bin)
[10:14] <Stormx2> B7su4: Copy them to ~/bin
[10:14] <czr> B7su4, you normally run them, but it depends on software
[10:14] <RQ> dnB, they're probably using dapper
[10:14] <RQ> or other distros
[10:14] <amias> jojko: you will need the bttv and tuner modules for your kernel , once they are loaded you should be able to use tvtime to watch tv through it
[10:14] <dnB> RQ, nope, using breezy
[10:15] <czr> dnB, 2.4.4 is the newest in supported 2.4.4
[10:15] <dnB> dnB, must have compiled ?
[10:15] <czr> there might be a newer one in universe (haven't checked)
[10:15] <dnB> czr, RQ thanks
[10:15] <czr> in supported 5.10 should have been (breezy)
[10:15] <B7su4> Stormx2, then what?
[10:15] <_jason> dnB, 2.6 is in backports
[10:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> B7su4, first you drop the sustained note, then you drop the 4th note, then get rid of the 7th and then you are at b major...I thought everyone knew how to do that :)
[10:15] <Stormx2> B7su4: then make sure its executable
[10:15] <dnB> _jason, thanks
[10:15] <amias> is dapper not installable yet ? are people using it
[10:16] <Stormx2> B7su4: Then simply type its name into a NEW terminal window and hit enter
[10:16] <dnB> where is sources.list?
[10:16] <Stormx2> amias: It is installable
[10:16] <RQ> amias, it works... sort of ... :)
[10:16] <czr> dnB, /etc/apt
[10:16] <dnB> czr, thanks
[10:16] <DarkOra> anyone know why gdm cant access the auth file?
[10:16] <RQ> DarkOra, what file?
[10:16] <_jason> DarkOra, check the permissions
[10:16] <DarkOra> im root ive checked
[10:16] <amias> Stormx2: my dist-upgrade to dapper is stalling on python
[10:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> B7su4, you can run it from a local folder by typing ./ in front of the file name. make sure it is executable though
[10:17] <DarkOra> its on login gives me an error sayin cannot access authentcation file
[10:17] <squidbullets> johndarkhorse=8D so I am not alone in the unobserving of things.
[10:17] <dnB> _jason, how do i add backports?
[10:17] <Stormx2> amias; Python is pretty big.
[10:17] <_jason> dnB, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:17] <dnB> _jason, thanks
[10:17] <johndarkhorse> DarkOra: is it an ".ICEauthority" file that is the problem?
[10:18] <grogoreo> hi
[10:18] <DarkOra> i recently installed kubuntu-desktop and thats where everything went downhill
[10:18] <pete__> in art manager, it will not allow me to install any login screens?
[10:19] <dylan_> czr, i still dont find where i can change it
[10:19] <topyli> amias: please don't upgrade to dapper unless you are willing to help fix it. it is broken by definition
[10:19] <acetech> how do i accept a pubkey for apt-get update?
[10:19] <czr> dylan_, networking settings?
[10:19] <grogoreo> how do I format a drive? I want to format a partition that I once had Windows on. On the drive I have the windows partiton (hda1), Home partiton (hda2) and linux partiton (hda3). Can I format a partiton when one is allready mounted (like the home and linux ones)
[10:19] <coag> hwo again do i get lspci to show the PCI Address?
[10:19] <czr> dylan_, did you find the program to change it with?
[10:19] <czr> coag, lspci does that by default. be more specific
[10:20] <peter_> IT WORKS!!!!! THANKSSSS
[10:20] <coag> ok where is it located in it then?
[10:20] <mamoru> grogoreo, mkfs
[10:20] <coag> in the output
[10:20] <topyli> grogoreo: you can format any partition that is not mounted
[10:20] <coag> because i cant find anything that woudl match what i need
[10:20] <czr> coag, run lspci, each line starts with 0000:01:01.1
[10:20] <czr> or similar
[10:20] <squidbullets> johndarkhorse=8D what is up with this streaming audio?
[10:20] <Walla> coag what do you need?
[10:20] <acetech> i tried gpg --import gpg-pubkey and it does not work
[10:20] <grogoreo> mamoru, will it format the windows partition?
[10:20] <dylan_> czr, yes
[10:20] <coag> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <coag> is asking for something like PCI:0:12:0
[10:21] <czr> coag, does lspci show 0000:00:12:0.0 for you?
[10:21] <mamoru> grogoreo, i think yes, why not? you should unmount it before formatting
[10:21] <acetech> how do i accept a pubkey for apt-get update?
[10:21] <jojko> aims kernel loads moduls but it doesn`t find out which card it is
[10:21] <johndarkhorse> acetech: what kind of pubkey?
[10:21] <atchim> help!!!!
[10:21] <czr> dylan_, which interfaces do you see when you start the Networking-tool?
[10:21] <squidbullets> squidbulletshighlight own name to verify lack of a space does not defeat highlighting feature to addressed name
[10:21] <DarkOra> how could i uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[10:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag what kind of video card do you have?
[10:22] <atchim> need help..
[10:22] <johndarkhorse> acetech: if it's one you have downloaded, "sudo apt-key add /path/to/key"
[10:22] <czr> atchim, just ask
[10:22] <acetech> johndarkorse, on for the apt-get update on servea and cipherfunk
[10:22] <squidbullets> squidbullets so that did not work
[10:22] <jojko> kernel loads moduls but it doesn`t find out which card it is
[10:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DarkOra, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[10:22] <atchim> need to configure my keyboard to do some laex..
[10:22] <dylan_> czr, eth0....my xp machine is having an issue b/c both pcs have the same ip addy
[10:22] <atchim> err..
[10:22] <atchim> latex...
[10:22] <pete__> hi, i need help using a login screen?
[10:22] <czr> dylan_, are you using DHCP?
[10:23] <czr> atchim, ask a specific question
[10:23] <atchim> on a laptop asus l3c60..
[10:23] <DarkOra> ok thx Isle
[10:23] <atchim> okay..
[10:23] <Taxman> pete__, what help do you need?
[10:23] <coag> !nvidia
[10:23] <atchim> there it goes..
[10:23] <coag> i forget which kernel module to deselect for nvidia
[10:23] <atchim> i am using a laptop l3c with ubuntu breeze now..
[10:23] <coag> was it dri?
[10:23] <atchim> a asus..
[10:23] <Determinist> pete__, what's the problem? cant install it?
[10:24] <atchim> and i am portuguese..
[10:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> coag no
[10:24] <atchim> now.. i need to configure my keyboard..
[10:24] <_jason> atchim, please don't use enter for punctuation, it makes it incredibly hard to follow your question
[10:24] <atchim> cause it is all mismatched..
[10:24] <pete__> Determinist
[10:24] <kong0> Need help! i installed java runtime edition and then i tried to install azureus but azureus say 2 files are missing; libseda-java and libswt-gtk-3.1.  i couldn't find theese in synaptics either and and also tried in terminal but it had been removed....
[10:24] <pete__> it only has the option to download.
[10:24] <atchim> okay..
[10:24] <pete__> not to install
[10:24] <Determinist> pete__, on the site?
[10:24] <czr> atchim, use longer sentences (as per _jason:s suggestion) and avoid 'ok'-lines
[10:25] <Determinist> pete__, show me the URL
[10:25] <pete__> it;s in
[10:25] <pete__> art manager
[10:25] <pete__> it coems with .svg ?
[10:25] <Determinist> pete__, ohh
[10:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kong0 how did you install java and azreus?
[10:25] <pete__> and some .png's and an xml
[10:25] <kong0> by deb packages
[10:25] <czr> dylan_, you using DHCP?
[10:25] <pete__> it's called sacura.
[10:25] <Determinist> pete__, gimme a sec
[10:26] <atchim> i use a laptop l3c60.. with ubuntu breeze.. i used hoary before np.. now just can't configure my keyboard right since i use pt... no layout i tryied before fits.. any suggest?
[10:26] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark, by .deb packages
[10:26] <dnB> can someone help me out? im trying to add synaptic to the menu in fluxbox, however i dont know how to set up the passwd prompt for sudo?
[10:26] <dylan_> czr, yes
[10:27] <RQ> atchim, what brand is it?
[10:27] <jojko> How can I delete apt cache
[10:27] <czr> dylan_, you have a separate windows machine or dual install with ubuntu?
[10:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kong0 did you do it by downloading the packages manually or or with apt-get?
[10:27] <atchim> asus l3c60
[10:27] <RQ> dnB, gksudo synaptic
[10:27] <bor> jojko: apt-get clean
[10:27] <dylan_> czr, separate...the win machine is complaining that both machines have the same IP
[10:27] <dnB> RQ, thanks much <3
[10:27] <RQ> dnB, you can apt-get install menus
[10:27] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark, manually from url's
[10:27] <RQ> or menu (i don't remember)
[10:27] <czr> dylan_, then your DHCP server is giving wrong addresses
[10:27] <GMachine_24> I am attempting to install inkscape but when I use synaptec to update packages I get the following error: inkscape:
[10:27] <GMachine_24>  Depends: libgc1  but it is not installable
[10:27] <GMachine_24>  Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1 (>=2.6.1) but it is not installable
[10:27] <GMachine_24>  Depends: libgtkmm-2.4-1  but it is not installable
[10:27] <GMachine_24>  Depends: libsigc++-2.0-0 (>=2.0.2) but it is not installable
[10:27] <RQ> it'll give you all the programs in the menu
[10:28] <dnB> RQ, thanks :)
[10:28] <czr> dylan_, do you have your own server or does the ISP provide the IP address?
[10:28] <RQ> yw
[10:28] <GMachine_24> sorry. those weren't supposed to be line endings
[10:28] <johndarkhorse> GMachine_24: please don't paste in here
[10:28] <GMachine_24> ok
[10:28] <acetech> johndarkhorse: i got the seveas one working from instuctions on their website just now... but cant get the cipherfunk working... i dl'd release.gpg and ran the apt-key command and it said no valid OpenPGP
[10:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kong0 try enabling the universe and multiverse repos and doing it from apt-get. That'll fix it, I use it all the time
[10:28] <GMachine_24> pastebin?
[10:28] <Determinist> pete__, you download it, then use system-administration-login screen setup to install it
[10:28] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! I installed mplayer, but it works only in terminal, but not in GUI. Must I install a GUI interface? How?
[10:28] <czr> dylan_, some ISPs only provide one IP over DHCP per client
[10:28] <dylan_> czr, ISP
[10:28] <pete__> determinist where is that?
[10:28] <czr> dylan_, and that means that once you start Linux, it will take the address
[10:28] <johndarkhorse> GMachine_24: read the /topic and use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:29] <Determinist> pete__, system->administration->login screen setup? :)
[10:29] <czr> dylan_, some ISPs also require you to pay them some extra so that they will provide more IP addresses
[10:29] <dnB> can anyone help me out? i got a GPG error when trying to add cipherfunk and seveas to repos?
[10:29] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark,  cant find them in apt-get and i have universe multiverse enabled already
[10:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dylan_, do a sudo ifconfig eth0 and tell us the IP address
[10:29] <pete__> ty
[10:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kong0 do a search from synaptic
[10:29] <Determinist> pete__, np mate
[10:29] <coag> gah
[10:29] <coag> my X set up didnt work
[10:29] <kong0> i couldnt find the missing pieces and azureus had been obsoleted
[10:30] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark,  I couldnt find the missing pieces and azureus had been obsoleted
[10:30] <GMachine_24> Ok I pasted my ? in pastebin if anyone can check it out thanks.
[10:30] <dylan_> The_Isle_of_Mark,
[10:30] <dylan_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:30] <dnB> hrm, RQ, it says menu is installed, however i had to make the fluxbox menu from scratch, any thoughts?
[10:30] <pete__> my login screen setup crashed :-0
[10:30] <Determinist> pete__, try again mate
[10:30] <Taxman> chrisx1,  so I have 4-5 solid connections but I'm getting zero serach hits for "linux" for ex. what should I be checking?
[10:30] <RQ> dnB, sudo update-menus
[10:30] <B7su4> is there a peer gaurdian for linux/
[10:30] <RQ> and then update-menus without sudo
[10:31] <jojko> bor Apt Get clean doesn`t work, it writes some error
[10:31] <dnB> RQ, thanks again
[10:31] <crouton_> anybody using the fglrx to acheive Svideo-out on an ATI card?
[10:31] <pete__> keeps crashing when i hit add new theme :-9
[10:31] <primo|ubuntu> Hello all, I have a question. I found a linux guide which instructed me to add "USER ALL=(ALL) ALL" to my sudoers list, to allow USER to be able to sudo commands. This works, but I now find that 'sudo su' switches to root without prompting for a password. What should I do to change this?
[10:31] <chrisx1> Taxman, what u mean what u searchin for?
[10:31] <czr> dylan_, that looks like a real public IP
[10:31] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark,  I couldnt find the missing pieces and azureus had been obsoleted
[10:31] <Deter[Physics] > chrisx1, how you holding there mate?