[06:22] <asiekierka> eiriksvin i like how classic didn't have problems
[06:22] <tanath> asiekierka, how about ctrl+alt+l to lock screen? i think there's a logout on there
[06:22] <asiekierka> i mean
[06:22] <zachgretzinger> Ziber since not everybody uses dual monitors, it would be pointless to dedicate the hours and time required to enable such a feature. Especially for such a small group of people
[06:22] <asiekierka> 10.10
[06:22] <asiekierka> one moment
[06:22] <eiriksvin> yeah, 11.04 classic is clean as a whistle
[06:22] <yi`zhi> oop
[06:22] <asiekierka> ok, i got screen lock there
[06:22] <asiekierka> but the lock menu doesn't appear
[06:22] <asiekierka> just its desktop
[06:22] <xsinick_laptop> eiriksvin:  but stillhas bugs
[06:23] <asiekierka> i think like
[06:23] <siloxid> thanks google  :)
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, hrm? no log out?
[06:23] <asiekierka> half of Gnome broke up and i need to reinstall it
[06:23] <yi`zhi> anyway. anyone know a nice way to switch language inputs on narwhal? i use keyboard input methods on 10.10 i wonder if it'll carry over nicely
[06:23] <eiriksvin> heh, the only problem i had the first time i ran it was the clock... but even that fixed itself
[06:23] <ejv> ugh this is frustrating lol
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath there's a change user option
[06:23] <asiekierka> i clicked it
[06:23] <eiriksvin> somehow
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, wait, you're on 10.10? if so, run 'gnome-panel --replace'
[06:23] <asiekierka> and now i'm at an empty dekstop
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath i'm on 11.04
[06:23] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <asiekierka> upgraded from 10.10
[06:23] <eiriksvin> brb
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, then i dunno what shell thingy you're using or what the command is
[06:24] <efox29> if i modify my sudoers to enable a user to run a script without passwd, will that script run commands that typically only root can run ?
[06:24] <asiekierka> tanath i'm using the tty shells ubuntu gives
[06:24] <asiekierka> you know, Alt+F1-F4
[06:24] <asiekierka> i'm considering a reinstall
[06:24] <efox29> because right now, i can run the script, but the command within in the script still requires a root passwd...
[06:24] <S-M-Gl> .
[06:24] <asiekierka> but i'm not sure if i'm considering ubuntu :|
[06:24] <xsinick_laptop> poo
[06:24] <asiekierka> it was fun and easy, sure, but
[06:24] <tanath> asiekierka, virtual terminals?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath i think so, yes
[06:25] <tanath> asiekierka, so you're using irssi or something?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath yep, irssi
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> natty poo head narwhal
[06:25] <asiekierka> notthe narwoah you expected
[06:25] <asiekierka> was it
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> nope
[06:26] <asiekierka> i'm already in failsafeX
[06:26] <tanath> asiekierka, heh. fun. well a reboot is better than logging out.. if you don't have anything stopping you, ctrl+alt+del in VT will reboot
[06:26] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using am Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifing it in order to show it?
[06:27] <vishal_> lol wow! this upgrade is gonna take a atleast several hours for me. :) I think I'm gonna postpone it.
[06:27] <vishal_> I'm just so excited to try out this new release...
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, it took me like 4 hours ish
[06:27] <eiriksvin> is it cool to install the adobe flack plugins for ubuntu from the software center?
[06:27] <vishal_> efox29 was it worth it?
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, no
[06:27] <efox29> lol
[06:27] <eiriksvin> oops flash
[06:27] <tanath> vishal_, if you change server, you don't have to redownload packages that have already downloaded
[06:28] <vishal_> lol efox29
[06:28] <eiriksvin> heh
[06:28] <tanath> vishal_, so  System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> efox29 4 hours?!? It seriously took me less than 30 minutes lmao
[06:28] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i wouldn't install anything from the software center
[06:28] <vishal_> tanath i did that... still slow.
[06:28] <Ziber> So, anyone have any advice about my internal laptop mic not working with 10.10?
[06:28] <vishal_> i live in hawaii... everything will be slow from here. :D
[06:28] <efox29> vishal_, i guess im just a bit disappointed that somethings broke along the way, and i had to fix them...whereas with other upgrades...no problems
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> Ziber update your drivers
 whys that?
[06:28] <vishal_> efox29 i see.
[06:28] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: How?
[06:29] <efox29> zachgretzinger, ya, the download took a while...it would fluctuate, i dont know if it was their servers or my connection, but id be hittin like 700kb/s then drop to like 6kb/s
[06:29] <vishal_> efox29 i have a webserver running ubuntu too... i'm glad i tried it on my laptop first...
[06:29] <zachgretzinger> System > Admin > look for something that looks like a green motherboard
[06:29] <tomtit> When will xubuntu 11.04 be available to download?
[06:29] <vishal_> tomtit isn't it available?
[06:29] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:30] <extraclassic> eirisksvin: i'm not 100% sure, but i did read where it screws up registering dependencies if you need to remove stuff later
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 it might be their connection then (it is launch date after all)
[06:30] <tanath> zachgretzinger, the term is PCB. motherboard is the main board that other boards & stuff connects to
[06:30] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: Ah, thank you.
[06:30] <vishal_> tomtit oh, nvm... u said xubuntu...
[06:30] <tomtit> I haven't come across so far
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> tanath i was being user-friendly...
[06:30] <efox29> zachgretzinger, thats what i thought too....i guess you hopped in when everyone got fed up and cancelled
[06:30] <steven> god bless you all, good night <3
[06:30] <efox29> lol
[06:30] <ejv> desktop "effects" used to be in appearance menu, where did it go?
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 lol no I upgraded 2 days before the official release
[06:30] <ejv> i wanna turn all this garbage off
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, so even before ppl cancelled..lol
[06:31] <vishal_> i officially cancelled my upgrade. :D i mean officially postponed!
[06:31] <vishal_> feels like the right thing to do.
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, see...just like vishal_  :)
[06:31] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:31] <russell--> "From my perspective, however, I think it's not only going to be a massive disaster for the existing user base, but I'm skeptical as to the value Unity will deliver in the first place."
[06:31] <silvery> Hi. Got a question about standalone station (not connected to internet). Can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 on this station using 11.04 CD, with no changes to installed software and files of existing 10.10?
[06:31] <tanath> russell--, what's the quote from?
[06:31] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using an Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifying it in order to show it?
 oh, well it seems to be fine for me... i only install what i need... xchat and so on
[06:32] <ejv> people complained each time facebook changed its layout, then people adjust, adapt, and forget, unity will be similar i imagine
[06:32] <zachgretzinger> Guys, if you're unhappy with 11.04 you can either downgrade or wait for the next release (closer than you think it may be)
[06:33] <eiriksvin> and i gotta have my internet radio
[06:33] <C4colo> is 9.10 out of support for updates and patches?
[06:33] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i just started using gpodder and it's pretty cool
[06:33] <zachgretzinger> Here is the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[06:33] <tanath> C4colo, LTS gets 3yrs of support
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, version numbers are based on release date, so no
 i saw that, it seems to be pretty cool
[06:34] <C4colo> yea, I was on 9.4 before I upgraded in the hopes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/516049 was fixed
[06:34] <ACameron> Hi all.  The upgrade from 10.10 -> 11.04 really messed up my system and I would just love some help getting my computer to even reach the BIOS.
[06:34] <efox29> anyone know how to allow a script without root passwd
[06:34] <C4colo> or actually 8.4 originally
[06:34] <zachgretzinger> ACameron what exactly is wrong?
[06:34] <linusasus6> hi I will like to know why gnome and gnome-core is no longer supported
[06:34] <C4colo> have upgraded this far and no luck, so I'm not very confident the bug doesn't exist in 10.x versions
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, why not use compiz or another WM?
[06:34] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to print on a HP Deskjet from Ubuntu that is virtualized within VBox on Windows 7.  Is this the best channel to try and fix the problem?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Given that my computer barely boots, I'm not sure how to answer that question.  How can I find out what you're asking?
[06:35] <C4colo> tanath, what is the lightest one?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I mean, I can't even reach GRUB to boot my Windows partititon.
[06:35] <ACameron> *partition
[06:35] <zachgretzinger> ACameron explain in detail what your computer is doing that it shouldn't be
[06:35] <C4colo> I DONT want pretty at the expense of performance
[06:35] <eiriksvin> im seriously thinking about getting my usb full of the stuff i need to get my USB wifi adapter working again, the going ahead and wiping out my unregged (f-ing viruses) Win 7
[06:35] <tanath> C4colo, well, the lightest ones typically wouldn't work the best with certain environments
[06:36] <teknowill> I can give you some help with hp printer vbox win 7
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I turn it on, and the screens receive zero input.  Not even the screen that the BIOS puts out saying, "I'm booting up!" before I see GRUB.
[06:36] <ACameron> When I say it says "I'm booting up", I mean that figuratively.
[06:36] <stoja> this release is the end of Ubuntu :/
[06:36] <ACameron> It actually has the motherboard logo on it, and so on.
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, i mean, if you want a lightweight environment you might go with icewm. if you just want the wm to use with a different environment there's ones like openbox fluxbox and blackbox
[06:36] <zachgretzinger> ACameron that happened to me as well... I simply restarted the computer a few times, ate a sandwhich, and voila - it went back to normal...
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, then avoid compiz. not as lightweight as even metacity
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I will cross my fingers.
[06:37] <Kyubey> Hey, I have a question about setting up compiz
[06:37] <mithran> hi guys, i want to try to install the x server on an ubuntu install, can someone tell me which iso i could have to use, that does not come with x,?
[06:37] <Kyubey> Which mouse button is the scrollwheel click?
[06:37] <nasuta> System:    Kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-ck3.9.nasutix x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Windows 7
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, middle click?
[06:37] <nasuta> CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips 7981.22
[06:37] <nasuta>            Clock Speeds: (1) 1200.00 MHz (2) 1200.00 MHz
[06:37] <C4colo> I need a stable platform to use terminal windows and browser windows, supports multiple monitors and virtual desktops
[06:37] <Kyubey> I want to know so I can make it the shortcut to scaling\
[06:37] <nasuta> Graphics:  Card ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4550] X.Org 1.9.5 Res<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:37] <Kyubey> yeah, middle click
[06:37] <FloodBot3> nasuta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <nasuta>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 9540) 20090101  TCL DRI2 GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2 Direct Rendering Yes
[06:37] <nasuta> Audio:     Card-1 ATI RV710/730 driver HDA Intel BusID: 01:00.1
[06:37] <rikrikthetik> the
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, depress the scroll wheel
[06:37] <truepurple> I am at a stage in upgrading ubuntu where it is asking to remove some stuff. Any reason to give thought as to what it wants to remove? Why does it say "open office" stuff is no longer needed?
[06:37] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Unfortunately, I have no sandwiches, and without a terminal I can't order my roommate to make me one.
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, can also be simulated with clicking both mouse buttons
[06:37] <red2kic> C4colo: Debian? It's always stable.
[06:37] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:37] <Kyubey> tanath, I know how to click it -_-
[06:38] <ejv> truepurple: think ubuntu has moved to libre office
[06:38] <zachgretzinger> If the problem persists, try creating a bootable USB with Damn Small Linux or something and go in "magically" and grab your files then wipe the drive and start over. It may be a pain but in the end it's worth it
[06:38] <Kyubey> I dont know which button compiz sees it as
[06:38] <C4colo> metacity is not
[06:38] <Kyubey> for the purpose of using it as a shortcutg
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> Is anyone here a guru on printing from Ubuntu within VBox?  I have VBox 4.0.6 running Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit.  It's hosted on Windows 7 64-bit.  A Deskjet 2000 is plugged in via USB to the PC.  Windows drivers are installed.  Test printing from Windows works fine.  I have set up a USB filter for the printer and checked it 'on' and Ubuntu appears to know that it exists.  I print from within Ubuntu, and they all appear to complete
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> successfully, but nothing actually comes out of the printer.
[06:38] <tanath> C4colo, have a look at icewm and fluxbox/blackbox and see which you prefer
[06:38] <C4colo> ok, thank you
[06:38] <ejv> how do i enable metacity in unity?
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, then what are you asking? lol
[06:38] <Kyubey> I'm asking which number the button is for compiz shortcuts
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, oh
[06:39] <Kyubey> such as one, two, three, etc. :P
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i can help a little
[06:39] <truepurple> ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it? Is it possible to allow it to remove some of this stuff, but not all?
[06:39] <C4colo> some have reported that pulling down the most current version of metacity and compiling it worked to fix the problem ... how often would metacity be pulled into the source?
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Any other ideas? multiple hard reboots have been unsuccessful so far.
[06:39] <numberto> My Unity search field does not work. When I type something I just does not find any file nor does it finds any app
[06:39] <linusasus6> is stupid no more menu on top bar  please why gnome and gnome-core are no longer support
[06:39] <Kyubey> I want to know so I dont accidentally undo the shortcuts for the right mouse button while trying to get this to work
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: good
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: do you have the usb 2 expanstion pack installed
[06:39] <numberto> Plus I cannot start launcher by using Alt+F2
[06:39] <zachgretzinger> ACameron how opposed are you to wiping your drive and trying a'new?
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:39] <C4colo> (I have been dealing with this issue for at least a year hoping every time I click "Install Updates" that it would be fixed)
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: if I could boot, maybe I could wipe my drive...
[06:39] <ZenGuy311> how long can ubuntu keep their releases CD size?
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: even though I really don't want to.
[06:40] <Kyubey> Is it two or three? I dont want to mess up the right mouse button's configurations
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I apologize if I get snarky; it's not you, it's my computer, and it's very late for me.  Please don't take it personally.
[06:40] <zachgretzinger> ACameron do you know how to make a Bootable USB?
[06:40] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: have you tired it with both usb 2 turned off and on
[06:40] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: No, although I think I could manage a LiveCD.
[06:40] <tanath> Kyubey, i think it's 2 or 3... whichever right click is... it's the other
[06:41] <Kyubey> haha, tanath, that's the problem
[06:41] <Kyubey> I dont know if it's two or three
[06:41] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: although, again, not sure how I'm going to boot from it.
[06:41] <zachgretzinger> ACameron lol I'm a full German raised in NYC - I'll never take anything personal
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, test it? lol
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: its fully dismounted from ubuntu and mounted in win7 box? sry so manys qs
[06:41] <Kyubey> and I dont want to screw up the settings for the right click doing this
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, only 2 options
[06:41] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no problem
[06:41] <truepurple>  ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it?   Haven't met any of them yet, but they're german and working in NYC.
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: k, you could share the printer via samba
[06:42] <Kyubey> err, sorry, darn it, I shouldn'
[06:42] <Kyubey> shouldn't swear here
[06:42] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:42] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install Unetbootin
[06:42] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: The USB thing just isn't working.  I'm trying to share over Ethernet
[06:42] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: samba/cups
[06:42] <Chaoss> hey there, I've been trying to get my 2 NTFS hard drives to show up in Ubuntu for the last 19 hours
[06:42] <tanath> Kyubey, 2
[06:42] <ejv> 19 hours? ouch
[06:42] <ejv> that's dedication
[06:42] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: install it on.. my unbooting computer..?
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron it's a tool to create bootable usb devices. Try using Damn Small Linux as it's only 50mb and the install takes less than 5 minutes
[06:43] <ACameron> oh, I see
[06:43] <Chaoss> they appear in disk utility but i cant find them in explorer
[06:43] <Chaoss> or what ever its called in ubuntu
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, win+middle = zoom box in enhanced zoom. it's 3
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install it on whatever computer you have that works
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you should be able to share the usb printer over cups/samba to the vbox
[06:43] <C4colo> ok, thanks guys, I'm off
[06:43] <Kyubey> neither works
[06:43] <Kyubey> I just tried both
[06:43] <Kyubey> ohhh
[06:43] <ACameron> OK, so use Unetbootin to create a DSL bootable thumb drive?
[06:43] <Kyubey> I have to hold it
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: what's messing up the share
[06:43] <Kyubey> durr -_-
[06:43] <FloodBot3> Kyubey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, woops, contradicted myself
[06:44] <tanath> Kyubey, button2 = middle
[06:44] <Chaoss> I dont get it they work in windows fine, and i can access them but in ubuntu it doesnt support more than 1 hard drive
[06:44] <Kyubey> yeah, just figured that out
[06:44] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:44] <Kyubey> Now I have to figure out why graphical stuff is lagging
[06:44] <truepurple> ACameron: Net install is good too,(a option under unetbootin) very small, it downloads off the internet as it installsACameron
[06:44] <zachgretzinger> ACameron yeppers.   I think I'm going to pass out for now and grapple with this some more in the morning.
[06:45] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is mounted in Windows 7 and tests successfully.  I select it to print over network, and it has a name on the network.  Now I"m in Ubuntu.  How do I get Ubuntu to recognize the printer's there on the network?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, ah. not familiar with it, but there's an app called startup manager you can use to configure delay and such
[06:45] <Kyubey> I'm running 64bit with nvidia graphics drivers
[06:45] <asiekierka> okay this is not helping
[06:45] <Kyubey> the beta didnt lag like this at all
[06:45] <zachgretzinger> ACameron np
[06:45] <ACameron> Looks like any plans of playing Portal 2 tonight will have to wait.
[06:45] <Chaoss> both 1TB hard drives are seen in disk manager, but there are no access to them
[06:45] <asiekierka> Looks like any plans of doing stuff today will have to wait
[06:45] <asiekierka> i'm considering changing distros :/
[06:45] <Chaoss> i dont see where to acceess
[06:45] <truepurple> Is there any way to selectively choose what programs that ubuntu is going to uninstall when updating?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:46] <asiekierka> tanath I believe 11.04's X installation ended up corrupted for me
[06:46] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalo 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:46] <asiekierka> half the things barely installed
[06:46] <Chaoss> hmm i seem 2 be getting ignored
[06:46] <asiekierka> Chaoss so seem I
[06:46] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it shouldn't uninstall any programs when updating at all
[06:46] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: did aq erlier release work?
[06:46] <asiekierka> I used 10.10
[06:46] <asiekierka> it worked perfectly
[06:46] <asiekierka> upgraded and now...
[06:46] <asiekierka> GDM blinks in normal mode
[06:46] <asiekierka> no menus visible in failsafeX
[06:46] <asiekierka> (or normal)
[06:46] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <tanath> asiekierka, could wait a day for possible bugfixes and do a dist-upgrade from VT
[06:46] <asiekierka> lock screen is also buggy, buttons are square and look like themeless
[06:47] <asiekierka> tanath yeah
[06:47] <asiekierka> what's the command again?
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <asiekierka> Chaoss
[06:47] <extraclassic> haha
[06:47] <asiekierka> if you shout we're going to ignore you even more
[06:47] <asiekierka> look, a new version of Ubuntu ruined lifes of hundreds of peole
[06:47] <tanath> asiekierka, 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[06:47] <george2> hi
[06:47] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its asking for permission to remove 76 "obsolete packages" right now.
[06:47] <pcgenius> hey what's the solution of that problem
[06:47] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: so your host is win 7 and guest ubuntu? you should "share" from host if possiable, otherwise you might have issuses.. one sec pls for the answer to q
[06:47] <pcgenius> can anyone please tell me
[06:47] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: ok
[06:47] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: a new instalol instead of an upgrade would probably work better
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it currently works perfectly within Windows 7
[06:48] <Chaoss> well if im getting ignored im going to shout/spam
[06:48] <truepurple> Chaos: I have been in here for hours sometimes just trying to get someones attention, but I still never spam or shout
[06:48] <Chaoss> im sure you would
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> and I'm sharing it from Windows 7 on the network teknowill
[06:48] <george2> is there any gui tool to manage daemons, because bum and ckhconfig don't work with upstart
[06:48] <asiekierka> ZenGuy311 not with the thousands of packets i had installed
[06:48] <IdleOne> Chaoss: if you shout spam like that again you will be muted :)
[06:48] <helpmeplz> hey guys
[06:48] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:48] <Chaoss> ok well does anyone know how to fix this problem
[06:48] <tanath> asiekierka, linux has nothing on windows :p
[06:48] <zachgretzinger> truepurple they are obsolete packages, not the programs themselves. You know on Windows when you download an .exe and install the program you still have the .exe somewhere? Same concept
[06:48] <pcgenius> i am using 11.04
[06:48] <itilious> why does ubuntu 11.04 menu controls disappear when i simply run "emerald --replace"?
[06:48] <Chaoss> or does linux not support more than 1 hard drive?
[06:48] <helpmeplz> have there been known issues with the wubi installer in 11.04?
[06:48] <bazhang> Chaoss, sudo blkid
[06:48] <tanath> pcgenius, did the app not work?
[06:49] <bazhang> Chaoss, put it in fstab
[06:49] <itilious> i'm doing exactly what i did with 10.04 and with 11.04 the menu controls/title/etc just go away, why?
[06:49] <bazhang> !fstab > Chaoss
[06:49] <pcgenius> tanath:i am sorry but that time i am disconnected can you please tell me again
[06:49] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: in unbuntu 10.04 top bar > system > administration > printing > network printer > windows printer via samba
[06:49] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I see in the list, "open office" in a number of places, that is going to uninstall open office, no?
[06:49] <Chaoss> how do i see private messages here?
[06:49] <Chaoss> ah i see
[06:49] <itilious> is 11.04 ubuntu desktop too "new" for emerald themes/manager to work with it?
[06:49] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:49] <zachgretzinger> truepurple no it is not going to uninstall anything
[06:49] <helpmeplz> can anyone please me help me with my wubi installation of ubuntu?
[06:49] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: you ould backup  the list of installed packahes
[06:49] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalone 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:50] <extraclassic> Chaoss: I think ubuntu mounts the drives in /media
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, emerald is unmaintained and unsupported
[06:50] <tanath> pcgenius, lets you configure things like delay
[06:50] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: whats the problem?
[06:50] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no printer shares found.  It says I should check my firewall configuration but I don't have Firewall under System->Administration
[06:50] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it's simply going to remove any unneccessary crap associated with the program before you installed it. Anything that will be removed you do not need
[06:50] <itilious> bazhang, is there an alternative?
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, nope
[06:50] <Chaoss> I only see 1 drive (folder) thats my main drive
[06:50] <Chaoss> the other 2 are not there
[06:50] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, when rebooting after the wubi ubuntu install, I get the error that the "root partition is not defined"
[06:50] <bazhang> Chaoss, and the command I gave you to run?
[06:51] <helpmeplz> zenguy311. it doesn't complete the install
[06:51] <extraclassic> Chaoss: you need to figure out the device names of the other two using "fdisk -l" then mount them with fstab
[06:51] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do I have to worry about anything suddenly becoming uncompatible with the newer ubuntu? For example, will I be able to download updates for battle for wesnoth like normal, even if they haven't made a version for 11.04 yet?
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> silvery: backup and do a distro upgrade , hope for the best
[06:51] <superproxy> how do I enable text mode in an ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64 cd installer, i need to test the cd's integrity
[06:51] <bazhang> truepurple, yes you will
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you need to reinstall grub from the ubuntui live cd
[06:51] <truepurple> bazhang: Is it easy to revert back?
[06:52] <Chaoss> ok whats the command, i have sdb1 and sdc1
[06:52] <itilious> why is it that it seems every "upgrade" is usually a downgrade in features with ubuntu?
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple some programs (as of now, mostly only temporarily) will not update in Natty right now. Don't worry though, updates will soon become compatible with Natty
[06:52] <bazhang> truepurple, no, full reinstall needed
[06:52] <Chaoss> and sda1 but thats already working
[06:52] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: windows 7 dose and it makes a different how the network setting are set for vbox, set the vbox net interface to bridge so it has a ip in your network
[06:52] <bazhang> itilious, this is not channel for that
[06:52] <itilious> less features, less customability, less etc etc etc
[06:52] <polatov> hi to all
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple but you still can use all of your programs
[06:52] <bazhang> !ot > itilious
[06:52] <pcgenius> tanath:but with the use of startup manager app we can work only if the ubuntu is running but one of my system is not able to boot ubuntu due to broken package,so when i boot my system only blank screen comes so i need to step into recovery mode from their
[06:52] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, but wouldn't that corrupt my windows mbr?
[06:52] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: So perhaps update them before updating ubuntu?
[06:52] <polatov> hi move dash to right side?
[06:52] <polatov> how move dash to right side?
[06:52] <Chaoss> what do i have to type in to get them to work
[06:53] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: can you still boot into windows and reinstall wubi
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, do a quick sudo apt-get update before upgrading
[06:53] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might need to give the host ip in manually even then
[06:53] <extraclassic> itilious: people are in #ubuntu-offtopic complaining right now...it's pretty funny
[06:53] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: How do I set the VBox newtwork to bridge?
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple before you upgrade though I would suggest install Natty on either a CD or USB and testing it out a bit. That way you won't have wasted your time if you do not like Natty
[06:53] <tanath> pcgenius, tap esc while booting. it should prevent it from going past the menu
[06:53] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: With the update screen at "do you wish to remove these packages" will that still work? Or will I have trouble because the update is midstream?
[06:53] <helpmeplz> zenguy311: yes, im on my windows installation right now. I could uninstall and reinstall ubuntu wubi for a 3rd time via the program manager
[06:54] <Chaoss> i could be here another 19 hours, tried fstab mount /dev/sdb1 and unknown command
[06:54] <pcgenius> tanath:ok thanks dude
[06:54] <tanath> pcgenius, once you get it working you may want to add a delay for future
[06:54] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just make sure before you update that the terminal is doing nothing
[06:54] <Chaoss> would have though after these years they'd have made a way to support more than 1 HD
[06:54] <yi`zhi> noob question but if i buy a mac book pro, i could just install ubuntu over it and it'll work fine right? any issues regarding that?
[06:54] <pcgenius> anyways congratulation to ubuntu team and community for the awesome release 11.04
[06:55] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I'm about ready to install Ubuntu as dual-boot instead of virtualized
[06:55] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi go right ahead. I don't know why on earth you'd buy a macbook fashionaccessorypro though...
[06:55] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: no .. just complete the windows install
[06:55] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: on the lower right of vm window should be an icon for network card if not: shutdown the guest, and under its settings should be something about the network card in there will be a drop down
[06:55] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:55] <doodle> Hello, I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[06:55] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Are there drawbacks for 11.04 then? Besides the new quick link stuff, anything else I will appreciate with 11.04? Its alot quicker?
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: it's not just a selction in the settings not too complex, but understand the fustration
[06:56] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:56] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: How do I complete the install inside windows? I thought the install would complete itself after it'd ask to reboot.
[06:56] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I have changed it from NAT to Bridged Adapter.  Is that what I need?
[06:56] <yi`zhi> zachgretzinger, that's pretty much it. i just like the design haha
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: yep!
[06:56] <Chaoss> looking at the fstab page says i need to set up a server
[06:56] <Chaoss> i dont have the money to buy a server at the moment
[06:56] <ZenGuy311> at the reboot it should have
[06:56] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just keep in mind that 11.04 (Natty) is a BIG change from what you're used to. A lot of people don't like Natty because they haven't immediately gotten used to it
[06:57] <Chaoss> and i dont have the knowledge to compile a new linux distro that supports more than 1 hard drive
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Like what?
[06:57] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: And for Name, do I select the real NIC or the VirtualBox Host-Only thing?
[06:57] <philipballew> my computer wont update to 11.04 when i type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I am a linux newbie, I am still getting use to linux in general
[06:57] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:57] <superproxy> how do i enable text mode in a graphical natty amd64 installer, i need to check the cd's integrity
[06:57] <Maddogm> you dont have to use unity if you dont want to
[06:57] <tanath> philipballew, the apt-get upgrade in there is wasteful
[06:58] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi honestly, design should be the last thing to look for when buying a computer... I work on both PC and Mac at work and most of the Mac's are actually inferior to the PC's
[06:58] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, well at the reboot it tried to complete the install but it failed saying that the root partition wasn't defined
[06:58] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:58] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you'll have to reinstall wubi to be sucsessful
[06:58] <philipballew> tanath how can i update to 11.04 then?
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: all linux distros support multiple hard drives, why don't you start by: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:58] <tanath> philipballew, that should work. but you didn't state the problem
[06:58] <taglass> Chaoss: I was just about to type something up to explain it, but thought to myself "Why reward that behavior"
[06:58] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think the real one
[06:59] <zachgretzinger> truepurple go to youtube and type in Natty and watch a few of the videos
[06:59] <ejv> also...
[06:59] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311, Well I've just been using the step by step that's on the DVD. What's the better way of going about this?
[06:59] <ejv> !patience | Chaoss
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: hard to picture in my mind sry
[06:59] <philipballew> when i attempt to run the comand it just updates my system and tells me no updates are avaible
[06:59] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600596/
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, I dont think he has pastebinit installed
[06:59] <ejv> bazhang: i told him to install it
[06:59] <tanath> philipballew, try with the update manager
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: could you see inet pages befoer in the box?
[06:59] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: A utube video isn't going to tell me much
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, nicely done I missed that
[06:59] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: i'vew only done a wubi install about 3 years ago, but wubi should be safe for new users
[07:00] <zachgretzinger> truepurple there are reviews on Natty where virtually everything is covered. pro's, con's, etc
[07:00] <ejv> bazhang: ;)
[07:00] <philipballew> im updating my server over ssh
[07:00] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: okay I selected the real adapter and now my SMB Browser sees Workgroup and Richard-Windows, which I presume is something from the Windows 7 machine appearing in Ubuntu
[07:00] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what have you tried, what errors are you getting?
[07:00] <tanath> zachgretzinger, apostrophes aren't used for plurals
[07:00] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: sounds right
[07:00] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:00] <Chaoss> i tried to install pysdm but i cant find it
[07:00] <Maddogm> is there a way to pre-download a dist-upgrade?
[07:01] <doodle> Hellow everyone, (reposting) I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:01] <Chaoss> and i have spent time looking for it
[07:01] <siloxid> in gnome I changed my mouse settings but these aren't observed when I log in with a different wm.  how do I keep the mouse settings?
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: what's pysdm ?
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: okay. Well I'll try and do some research then. It's a shame they have to make it so exhausting to figure out.
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: i thought you were trying to mount your NTFS partitions...
[07:01] <Chaoss> i am
[07:01] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:01] <Chaoss> it said it would help me out but its done nothing
[07:01] <linusasus6> is gnome-shell, gnome-desktop, gnome-core and gnome packages will be supported on the 11.10 because they no longer seem to be supported in 11.04
[07:01] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: ok good luck
[07:01] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I figured out what the problem is, and I'll tell you
[07:01] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: Thanks for the help
[07:01] <zachgretzinger> tanath I apologize, oh great grammar Nazi *bows head*
[07:02] <tanath> philipballew, actually, someone said upgrading is borked right now. should try later
[07:02] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I originally had no password for my Windows 7 user account.  But Ubuntu won't log onto the workgroup without a password.  You must have a password or it won't log into the workgroup.
[07:02] <ejv> Chaoss: i would: sudo mkdir /mnt/mydrive && mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/mydrive
[07:02] <taglass>  Maddogm apt-get -d dist-upgrade
[07:02] <ZenGuy311> Hellie: k but wish i could have been more useful
[07:02] <tanath> zachgretzinger, way to make assumptions. i don't know if you know better or care or not. for all i know english isn't your first language and you'd appreciate the correction
[07:02] <Chaoss> only root can do that
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: you can't use sudo? is this your machine?
[07:03] <zachgretzinger> tanath, English is actually my 3rd language...
[07:03] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you could make a dummyuser or you can put a password on the administrator account that is default to all win boxes
[07:03] <Chaoss> thats what it says, i've never understood that error
[07:03] <Chaoss> sudo works sometimes
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: it should work ALL the time, it will prompt you for your password you provided during installation.
[07:03] <tanath> zachgretzinger, care less the more languages you learn? :p
[07:03] <truepurple>  zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:03] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: It's looking better but same thing is happening.  I've printed a test page twice, and both times Ubuntu claims it was successful but nothing has come out of my printer
[07:03] <Chaoss> yeh i put that in correctly
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what happened?
[07:04] <Chaoss> now when i try again it just says cannot create directory
[07:04] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, wouldn't recommend it
[07:04] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:04] <zachgretzinger> tanath as long as people understand what I mean, it really doesn't matter to me.
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: mount | pastebinit
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ubuntu support annoymous, but win 7 has this homegroup thing, if you have that on it makes working with non win7 pcs hard
[07:04] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I reckon I'll install Natty as a dual-boot and stop all this virtualization rubbish.  It causes more problems than it solves.
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, if it doesn't work, you can't safely downgrade
[07:04] <deneb> tanath: why doesn't work?
[07:04] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i guess, but this is a fixable problem
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: in theory, yes
[07:05] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't matter for now, you still got the updates you need. Did you see "404" a lot?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, spelling and grammar are important. misuse them and they can be misleading
[07:05] <ejv> Chaoss: use my name when sending me information: example: ejv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:05] <mbrochh> just updated to 11.04... how do i activate the new desktop? everything still looks the same as it did before the update
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is right there on the printing configuration page.  It appears to know that the printer exists.  But nothing comes out of the printer.
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Not a single 404
[07:05] <Starminn> mbrochh: Did you log out?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, many miscommunications occur without either party being aware..
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: And no, I didn't get any updates
[07:06] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The command didn't work
[07:06] <mbrochh> Starminn, I restarted several times?
[07:06] <doodle> bazhang: Can you help please? I need to help with patitioning. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:06] <tanath> deneb, it apparently hasn't worked for some people
[07:06] <ejv> Chaoss: mount shows that your sda2 ntfs partition is already mounted under /media/ folder; the command i sent you earlier, i indicated */dev/sdaX* where X is a number YOU substitute... did you do that?
[07:06] <doodle> !repost
[07:06] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you want as well, you can have ubuntu print to pdf file as printer insead of direct and just save them to a shared dir
[07:06] <doodle> Sorry, typo. :S
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: that's more trouble than it's worth
[07:07] <zachgretzinger> tanath I'm 20, give me a break!! Spanish was my first language, followed by German. You can see how English may be a little complicated with all of it's rediculous rules
[07:07] <Chaoss> yeh i did
[07:07] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: and just print in win... k just a side thought... but I think the troulbe is win7 home group crap
[07:07] <djazz> when I start a terminal, it dont appear in the launcher (11.04) :/
[07:07] <Chaoss> it just says "Only root can do that"
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:07] <Chaoss> which i assume means it cant do it for some reason
[07:07] <ejv> tanath / zachgretzinger, enough, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or ignore eachother, thx ;)
[07:07] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Honestly I reckon I'll install Linux on the metal.  VBox has caused me nothing but trouble and it doesn't do me much good
[07:07] <tanath> zachgretzinger, don't think i've been hard on  you...
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: is that the problem?
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> truepurple press ALT+F2 and type in the following "sudo apt-get update"
[07:08] <taglass> doodle: try sudo blkid to find the partition and then sudo mount sdwhatever /dos where sdwhatever is the nae you got from blkid
[07:08] <tanath> deneb, what problem?
[07:08] <ejv> Chaoss: if you used sudo, and put in your password correctly, the mount operation should succeed.
[07:08] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: ALT F2 doesn't do anything
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> tanath: Correction: Don't think I've been hard on you.
[07:08] <Chaoss> ok
[07:08] <Chaoss> i see no password entry
[07:08] <Chaoss> just the message again
[07:09] <ejv> Chaoss: double check your `fdisk -l` listing, to make sure it corresponds to your devices you're trying to mount.
[07:09] <zachgretzinger> truepurple then manually open the terminal and type the following: "sudo apt-get update"
[07:09] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:09] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: only when you trun off home group can any pc access a share without password... you would have this problem on any non win 7 metal box trying to connect over ethernet, just so you know
[07:09] <Chaoss> yeh that works it shows me that information
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> Okay, everyone.  I love Ubuntu 10.10 and I haven't yet upgraded to 11.04.  I'm a bit dubious about Unity though.  Should I stick with 10.10, learn to live with Unity, run 11.04 with GNOME, or switch to another distro?
[07:09] <djazz> 11.04 launcher is bugged :/
[07:09] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Ok, I got alt F2 to work, apparently it only works with the left alt. But as I said, that command doesn't work, it gives me that error when I do that
[07:10] <Chaoss> i put my password in and it showed me, but when i try the command thats suppose dto work, it does not so
[07:10] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: but usb on bare will work, non vm has it's problems as well, but speed will be better
[07:10] <Chaoss> is there no way to brute force access the drives?
[07:10] <ejv> Chaoss: ok, then using the format: `sudo mount <device> <target>` is the next step, where target can be in /mnt/ or /media/ typically.
[07:10] <tanath> zachgretzinger, my grammar was correct, and the lack of caps doesn't make it unclear. and when chatting lack of caps is common and informal
[07:10] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah
[07:10] <zachgretzinger> truepurple so absolutely NOTHING happens? You don't see 99% a million times?
[07:10] <taglass> thegoodcushion: only you can answer that question
[07:10] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: It gives me those errors I mentioned about unavailable resources and such
[07:11] <tanath> anyway, gotta run. good luck peopel
[07:11] <AnonymousGuy> hey just downloaded and installed ubuntu 11.04 having an issue with the update manager though, http://pastebin.com/fty5AXwu
[07:11] <tanath> *people
[07:11] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't mean everything didn't update
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The errors I mentioned earlier that you said I should not mind
[07:11] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think though, if you turn off or remove your win 7 pc from home group and reshare the printer to "everyone" ubuntu will take it
[07:11] <Chaoss> ok i see sdb
[07:11] <Chaoss> its worked sort of
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I never got to a screen to choose any updates, nor did I see any download progress or install activity
[07:11] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; trying to get sun-java6-jre on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop;  ubuntu * Says* its installed; but when i do: LilArooni sudo update-alternatives --config java;;; i dont see anything on sun java
[07:11] <Chaoss> i dont see my drive information there
[07:12] <zachgretzinger> truepurple were you in the terminal
[07:12] <djazz> anyone else using 11.04 have trouble with launcher?
[07:12] <Chaoss> just a few files (Boot, System volume information, bootmgr etc)
[07:12] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I might try that
[07:12] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: When I type that command in terminal, all it does is give me those errors
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <bazhang> truepurple, close other instances of apt
[07:13] <ejv> Chaoss: your data may or may not reside in another partition on your device, use `fdisk -l` to locate relevant partitions where your data is likely to be stored.
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <Chaoss> the folder is only 73Mb free too
[07:13] <Chaoss> ok
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: I see nothing.
[07:13] <ejv> !paste | truepurple
[07:13] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, well good luck with either route, i'll check/scroll back in a bit if you decide to give it more time
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: it does not give any output.
[07:13] <zachgretzinger> tanath beschweren sich über Grammatik an jemand anderen
[07:13] <truepurple> bazhang: apt? what is that?
[07:13] <eiriksvin> brb
[07:14] <ejv> AnonymousGuy: please check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs to see if such an issue has been reported. if not, file it for us. :-)
[07:14] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: mate I'm fed up and I'm looking for a distro to install on the metal
[07:14] <taglass> doodle: "sudo blkid" gives no output?
[07:14] <djazz> :/
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: it does.
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> truepurple type in the command again and copy all of the output into a text file and save it on your desktop
[07:14] <djazz> anyone using 11.04?
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: of course
[07:14] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I've have good luck with 10.04, I wouldn't go 11 yet
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> djazz me
[07:14] <taglass> is there a line that says anything about fat or ntfs?
[07:14] <Chaoss> mount: unknown filesystem type 'promise_fasttrack_raid_member'
[07:14] <djazz> anyone have trouble with launcher?
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: but I have no name for that partion so I tried sudo blkid UUID /dos
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: be more specific.
[07:15] <Chaoss> aha i know the problem, ubuntu doesnt support ntfs
[07:15] <doodle> taglass: that gives no output.
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: problem is that if Ubuntu stays with this Unity crap, I reckon I might abandon Ubuntu
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> djazz by trouble, do you mean trouble getting used to it
[07:15] <djazz> terminal doesnt show up, wine programs are combined in one wine "app"
[07:15] <ejv> Chaoss: you mean you haven't loaded support for it? why didn't you say so?
[07:15] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Why?
[07:15] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: had good luck with opensuse 11.3, 11.4 kde eats too much cpu
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I want GNOME
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because I think you're misunderstanding something but would like to be sure
[07:15] <linusasus6> linuxmint
[07:16] <Chaoss> it seems odd because it can access my main windows hard drive (i have one Solid state drive, and 2 1TB hard drives)
[07:16] <Maddogm> thegoodcushion, you can login using "Ubuntu Classic"  and get the current (previous) gui
[07:16] <Chaoss> i can seethe solid state drive and the windows folders n stuff
[07:16] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: But how does putting it in a text file on my desktop help you do that?
[07:16] <taglass> doodle: can you post the output of sudo blkid to a pastebin?
[07:16] <doodle> taglass: okay.
[07:16] <ejv> Chaoss: i think i've hit my limit in terms of support i can provide for that issue, attempt to setup ntfs support, there's a wealth of documentation online about the process.
[07:16] <Chaoss> but the other 2 hard drives are totally 101% inaccessible from ubuntu i've tried so much for so long
[07:16] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because once you do it and tell me you did it I'm going to have you email it to me and I'm going to read it
[07:16] <Chaoss> and it always says 1 error, or some other cryptic message
[07:17] <ejv> !enter > Chaoss
[07:17] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well debian is a pain if you want none approved progs and out of box flash didn't work... fedora is good but again you need to get codeces....
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: How about a pastebin or a PM instead? Less work, and anyway, why put it into a text file to email it to you?
[07:17] <Vustom> When I startup my computer (Which is using Windows and Ubuntu side-by-side, Windows being installed first) theres an option to press F11 which goes into System Recovery, this worked before when I just had Windows by itself, but I want to do another reformat because of the new Ubuntu, how can I fix this?
[07:17] <gh0st> what's the deal with remote desktop viewer?
[07:17] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well Debian doesn't have GNOME 3.  I think I prefer debian-based distros
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its like 4 lines anyway
[07:17] <ejv> gh0st: be much more specific.
[07:17] <zachgretzinger> truepurple however you want, just give me the output of the terminal once you type in sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <gh0st> I'm trying to connect to my win7 machine and get "connection closed: connection to host ip was closed."
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: I believe it's in experimental
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5ve2jLCb
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: gnome3 that is
[07:18] <Chaoss> ubuntu is experminetal lol
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> taglass, that's what i told thegoodcushion in #debian
[07:18] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do you see that PM I sent you?
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: You want to reformat your whole hard drive or just overwrite Ubuntu?
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: the /dev/sda11: UUID="065C-DB02" TYPE="vfat" is the problem.
[07:18] <djazz> ejv: http://i.imgur.com/f3kjd.jpg
[07:18] <taglass> ok
[07:18] <Vustom> Whole hard drive
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: (By the way, long time no see! I hope Ubuntu has been treating you well!)
[07:18] <Vustom> It's awesome. ;3
[07:18] <ejv> Chaoss: the recent release 11.04 is, you may want to try 10.04 LTS for something more stable
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> taglass: no wait I meant GNOME 2
[07:19] <Vustom> Excited for Unity, at first I was like eh, but it looks cool. :D
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> my bad
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'd say just open up GParted from a LiveCD and wipe it all.
[07:19] <Chaoss> in ubuntu where do you access "system"
[07:19] <taglass> doodle: type this sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sda11 /dos
[07:19] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, I replied
[07:19] <ejv> djazz: ?
[07:19] <Chaoss> it used to be on the top bar but its vanished
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'm excited for Gnome3 but it looks like I'll have to wait for 11.10 for that one.
[07:19] <Vustom> But theres another HDD in there, and it has the system covery for Windows Vista on it..
[07:19] <djazz> ejv, i was more specific
[07:19] <djazz> :P
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: What does your hard drive setup look like?
[07:20] <Chaoss> can someone help me locate this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pysdm-graphical-storage-device-manager.html
[07:20] <Vustom> HP (HDD)
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well i mean as far as they go i'd go best experiances were unbunt 10.04 for desktops and debian no-gui for servers
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, don't hold your breath.  Ubuntu isn't going to use Gnome...
[07:20] <doodle> taglass: I got this: mount: /dev/sda11 already mounted or /dos busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda11 is already mounted on /dos
[07:20] <Chaoss> i've instlled it but cant find it ANYWHERE what so ever
[07:20] <Vustom> FACTORY_IMAGE (HDD)
[07:20] <ejv> djazz: ahh the launcher issue you mentioned, not sure i understand from the picture, let me look again
[07:20] <djazz> look at terminal..
[07:20] <Vustom> the factory image is on the same HDD i think.
[07:20] <djazz> Why does Empathy open links in firefox when I have set chrome as default?
[07:20] <greg> Hi anyone like the new "Unity" thing?
[07:20] <Vustom> so i can't wipe it all, then i'll have no windows :/
[07:20] <taglass> doodle: then it's a;ready mounted..  your data should be accessible in /dos
[07:20] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: I know, but hopefully Gnome3 will be able to run in 11.10. OTherwise, they'll be pulling a proprietary move by restricint g what you can/can't use in whicih case I'll drop them like a bad habit.
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might be able to use a different x server in ubuntu if you dont like unity
[07:20] <ejv> looks normal djazz
[07:21] <djazz> ejv, do you see terminal in launcher?
[07:21] <doodle> taglass: but I want it under /media
[07:21] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, i've personally moved to Debian because of Unity
[07:21] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah you can login using GNOME.  My only concern is that ubuntu will move away from GNOME
[07:21] <ejv> djazz: on mine, yes, not in yours
[07:21] <Starminn> Vustom: You said you wanted to reformat everything, not just Ubuntu, but you want to keep Windows? Explain on one line what you want to do.  I'm mounting a remote nfs export, but the files on the remote machine belong to uuid 501 and I want to modify them with uuid 1000. can I remap the uuid when I mount? (am I expected to have the same /etc/passwd on both machies?)
[07:22] <elad> im having a hard time installing 11.04 on my dell m1330
[07:22] <elad> can anyone help me???
[07:23] <ejv> rome wasn't built in a day... understanding linux doesn't happen over night either... *sigh*
[07:23] <Vustom> I can't wipe the hole HDD because the factory default of Windows Vista is on the same HDD, I need to be able to enter the System Recovery application when I start up my computer, it normally works with F11 and goes straight into it, but with Ubuntu side by side with Windows; that selection of what OS just shows up.
[07:23] <taglass> doodle: you might have to edit /etc/fstab as well.  just change /dos to /media/dos
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> elad what is wrong
[07:23] <djazz> why do I see chatroom chat posts twice in empathy?
[07:23] <avij> ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com seems to complain that the "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" when downloading the various ubuntu-11.04-*.iso files. could someone please authorize the ubuntu isos to that ipv6 tracker?
[07:23] <elad> zach, im running windows 7 and im trying to dual boot
[07:23] <Cr3al> the new launcher is confusing as hell. is there a way to edit it at all?
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> djazz because empathy sucks
[07:23] <Vustom> I still have the option to press F11 on the start up screen, but doesn't work.
[07:23] <ejv> im taking a break, you guys wear me out lol, good luck newcomers.
[07:23] <djazz> yeah...
[07:24] <Vustom> like i said, just goes straight to the OS selection
[07:24] <elad> but every time, i get an error in the middle of the install
[07:24] <zachgretzinger> elad type in my whole name or I can't see that you mentioned me
[07:24] <Cr3al> such as moving the order of the applications
[07:24] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well you could always add it later, i'm sure there would be a  ubuntu distro with a none unity if they do, i mean they have a kubunu now so I bet they would doa gubuntu
[07:24] <pipou> where does the ubuntu upgrade need 1.5 GB or so of disk space? I can't do that on / but can somewhere else
[07:24] <djazz> guess I must reboot to fix the launcher... :(
[07:24] <Starminn> Vustom: F11 is a Windows-only option I think. So, since it's only in Windows, have you tried booting into Windows and trying ti then while the Windows thing is going?
[07:24] <elad> zachgretzinger im trying to dual boot with windows 7 64 bit, but i keep on getting an error halfway though the install...
[07:25] <heroprimeremix> how do i extract as root?
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, with sudo?
[07:25] <halpbatman> hey guys I removed my linux partition and now I get "error: no such partition" how do I restore windows 7 bootloader?
[07:25] <Cr3al> it wont even let me edit the gnome panels anymore
[07:25] <Vustom> I've tried pressing F11, then selecting Windows Vista on the OS selection, but just goes to the Windows log-in screen like normal
[07:25] <helloEARTH> how can i access the startup applications in 11.04?
[07:25] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were a perfect Linux distro so I don't have to choose
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, are u using the gui or console?
[07:25] <ohsix> Cr3al: the thing at the top with unity is not a panel
[07:25] <zachgretzinger> elad what is the error
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I say as long as it still has what you want stay with it, till it doesn't i'm sure a lot of people will want they anther solution will come around if they do drop it
[07:26] <heroprimeremix> like how do i even start? (i know to use sudo, but how do i even begin to extract through terminal??)
[07:26] <Starminn> Vustom: No, I mean select Windows, then press F11
[07:26] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Yeah there's a fear of the unknown for me too
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: don't forget name almost missed your im
[07:26] <Vustom> o.
[07:26] <ohsix> Cr3al: it looks sort of like it,  but the panels are gone; if you want them then you probably also want the classic session, which you can pick from the login screen
[07:26] <Vustom> look; http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=18738354#r18738354
[07:26] <Vustom> D:
[07:26] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if you have a zip file then unzip if its tar.gz then use tar such as tar -xvzf xyz.tar.gz
[07:26] <taglass> halpbatman: boot up from your windows 7 dvd, enter the recovery console and type bootsect /nt60 and then sys /mbr
[07:26] <Cr3al> i just want to move the workspace switcher to a more practical place
[07:27] <elad> zachgretzinger, im not sure. but it asks me to report it... i chose the partition & everything seems to be running smoothly then it stops. do you think i should try the 64 bit version?
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if it is a zip file then its sudo unzip xyz.zip
[07:27] <halpbatman> taglass: is there a way to fix this without the dvd?
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: that might be one command instead of two, not sure.  I just have it wrote on a postit note for helping other people.  I don't use windows :)
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, try man unzip or man tar for more information
[07:27] <Vustom> "But as stated, the F11 is gone, because when you installed Ubuntu, GRUB overwrote the MBR section where the F11 is launched. You learned a hard lesson :(" -.-'
[07:27] <heroprimeremix> it is a tar.gz
[07:27] <zachgretzinger> elad try the 64 bit version
[07:27] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: is party why i went with lts so I have a chance to adapt and or somehting that will come can come out have a few years with this one till it's a "problem"
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: no clue.  If there is, I bet google knows.
[07:28] <silvery> When use CD, i don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option in installation options, any suggestions?
[07:28] <elad> zachgretzinger, will do... i dont know how its relevant though. my xp was 64 bit & i ran 10.10 just fine
[07:28] <aetaric> erm ok so
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, then its sudo tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I can't even get 10.10 from the ubuntu website!
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it gives me 11.04 or 10.04
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, it will unzip in the current directory
[07:28] <Starminn> Vustom: Alright, so if it's included in the Windows bootloader then just reinstall Windows, as that overwrites all Linux.
[07:29] <heroprimeremix> I was wondering because i upgraded to 11.04 and my cursor won't  change....
[07:29] <Starminn> silvery: Are you using a 11.04 disc?
[07:29] <aetaric> just upgraded to 11.04, i have a NVidia Geforce 8600M and I can't use unity any ideas?
[07:29] <Vustom> O.O
[07:29] <Vustom> I can't access the System Recovery though..
[07:29] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, you can add -t to see what will be extracted
[07:29] <silvery> Starminn : yes
[07:29] <elad> thegoodsushion, if you really want 10.10, search filestube. i downloaded a copy today
[07:29] <elad> zachgretzinger, thanks for you help
[07:29] <silvery> it gives me 3 other options and not this one...
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i had bad luck with 10.10... and they only seable diff from 10.04 is it's libra office by defult and the rythmbox thing is "cooler"
[07:30] <Robert__> hey how do i get tthat little window that runs programs
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I don't care about office or rhythmbox
[07:30] <doodle> taglass: I can't unmount now with right click, it says, "umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda11 from /media/dos"
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> I'm coding
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad np
[07:30] <froggi> !
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I mean I'm using gcc, clang, nano, make.  So arguably I don't need the latest version of anything
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad you ran 10.10 fine?
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: then go with 10.04
[07:31] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you can upgade kernal after
[07:31] <zachgretzinger> elad was it 64 bit 10.10? Also, are you trying to upgrade to Natty?
[07:31] <taglass> doodle: that's correct.  you could always unmount it as root and then use nautilus to mount the drive.  That soundslike what you want.
[07:31] <Starminn> Vustom: Contact HP, I'd say they have a recovery thing. That, or like Dell they may have a partition for recovery.
[07:31] <Vustom> Chat timed out, missed what you said.
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: actually, no. I want it like other direves. easy to mount and unmount
[07:32] <heroprimeremix> So...in 11.04, how would i change my cursor theme?
[07:32] <Vustom> Starminn: I typed sudo fdisk -l into terminal and two parts of my HP HDD came up, /dev/sda2           59465       60801    10739452+   7  HPFS/NTFS and /dev/sda1   *           1       34786   279415295+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: and I tried to formate it in NTFS.
[07:32] <ruan> need urgent help. i just did a 'partial upgrade' and now i cant log into any GNOME environment.
[07:32] <ruan> it fails
[07:32] <Vustom> I have 2 different options to boot into Vista at the OS selection, never tried sda2 though, and the factory image is like 10GB, is that it?
[07:32] <silvery> Can be the problem that I have 64x 10.10 and 32x 11.04?
[07:32] <Vustom> should i try booting into sda2?
[07:33] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you really want 10.10 i can get you a torrent link...
[07:33] <Vustom> Theres also 3 more..
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I'm downloading 10.04
[07:33] <ruan> ok im going to install kde now
[07:33] <Vustom> -.-
[07:33] <amit> when installed ubuntu 11.04 it is saying that my hardware doesnot have support of unity?why it is saying and what are the basic requirements for it?
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: As I said I don't need the bleeding edge version of anything, so it's about familiarity and avoiding Unity
[07:33] <taglass> doodle: I'm not sure.  Sorry I don't have a better answer.
[07:33] <ruan> amit: you can still boot into ubuntu classic
[07:33] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Reinstall and try a erase drive option
[07:33] <Vustom> i'll try boot into sda2, if no luck i'll come back, thanks :D
[07:34] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Anyway thanks for trying to help me.  You're a good sport.
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: you need 3d accelleration for graphics
[07:34] <amit> ruan: but i want to use unity
[07:34] <Starminn> Vustom: Again, I'd say contact HP. They'd know their HDD setup better than us.
[07:34] <ruan> heroprimeremix: impossible for me to do that, i have no cdrom and i cant boot with a usb
[07:34] <doodle> taglass: okay, thanks!
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic: i have nvidia gforce 9400
[07:34] <ruan> brb screen
[07:34] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, no problem good luck
[07:34] <Vustom> I'll just get some asian guy that can't even speak english. D:
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: it might work if you install proprietary drivers for your video card, because nouveau won't work
[07:34] <Cr3al> how do you add applications to the launcher menu?
[07:34] <Vustom> brb
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic:is classic using gnome
[07:35] <ytaews> I can't get Natty to boot at all, can't even get the live CD to initiate the installer. I go through BIOS POST, get a message about ISOLINUX and then black screen. Is there anything I can do to try and diagnose?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: 'apt-get install nvidia nvidia-utils, then reboot'
[07:35] <amit> ok
[07:35] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Find a computer, download 11.04, Burn to a cd or DVD. Simple
[07:35] <lgp171188> Hi, I have installed Natty and want to use Classic Gnome as the default instead of having to select it every time before login. How to do it?
[07:35] <atharva> I am unable to install virtualbox 4.0.6 .pl help
[07:35] <atharva> atharva@atharva-Vostro-1400:~$ sudo '/home/atharva/Extra'\''s/VirtualBox-4.0.0-69151-Linux_x86.run'
[07:35] <atharva> [sudo] password for atharva:
[07:35] <atharva> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[07:35] <atharva> Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation..........
[07:35] <atharva> eval: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[07:35] <FloodBot3> atharva: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <Scarra3> Is the 11.04 search bar suppose to take up the whole screen?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: classic won't be the same as the old gnome
[07:36] <amit> extraclassic:it is saying unable to locate package nvidia
classic is based on which ?
[07:36] <extraclassic> amit: I probably don't have the name right then...you need nvidia's proprietary drivers though
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> How would i get my cursor to work in 11.04?
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> It won't change
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> amit, i've never heard of either nvidia or nvidia-utils (but i'm not using 11.04)
[07:37] <Braiam> extraclassic: lgp171188 is the guy
[07:37] <extraclassic> Braiam: who's that
[07:37] <MJBrune> I have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound chipset and I want to know if my mic will work in linux. will it?
[07:37] <Braiam> lgp171188: classic won't be the same as the old gnome, thanks to extraclassic
[07:37] <taglass> ytaews: did the md5sum of your download match the posted checksums?  If so try burning your cd at a slower speed
[07:37] <amit> i think ubuntu 10.10 is better at this time
[07:38] <yi`zhi> OOOH i'm about to restart!
[07:38] <lgp171188> Braiam: Ok, how do I change the default?
[07:38] <yi`zhi> this is so exciting
[07:38] <MJBrune> anyone?!
[07:38] <Braiam> lgp171188: ask to extraclassic
[07:38] <Ziber> How can I show duplicate songs in Rythm box?
[07:38] <taglass> MJBrune: I see no reason why it wouldnt
[07:39] <doodle> taglass: most probably I made this error in installation, I want to re-install, what should I select there (after deleting and reassigning) to mount in /media, I see only 2 options there /dos and /windows
[07:39] <Logan_> !please | MJBrune
[07:39] <Braiam> lgp171188: im on 10.10
[07:39] <extraclassic> why, I don't know what I'm talking about half the time
[07:39] <MJBrune> Logan_: the channel is already unreadable.
[07:39] <lgp171188> extraclassic: How do I change the default desktop environment in natty?
[07:39] <MJBrune> taglass: because the drivers are shit?
[07:39] <MJBrune> ugh morons
[07:39] <aetaric> once again, 11.04 unity won't start on supported card
[07:40] <taglass> doodle: I don't think you need to assign a mountpoint at all
[07:40] <extraclassic> lgp171188: don't know...I'm not using it
[07:40] <doodle> taglass: then it says, your drive will be unused!
[07:40] <ytaews> taglass: Yeah, the MD5 matched. I've spent all day burning new discs, making USBs and then I tried going back to lucid, then upgrading to maverick then to natty.  I get http://pastebin.com/6BkDrMPN when I "java -jar /path/of/file.jar"
[07:41] <Logan_> lgp171188: then, in that window, hit the Unlock button, put in your password, and then you can change the default environemnt
[07:41] <taglass> ytaews: that's not good and it sounds like you've alraedy tried any advice I might have to offer.
[07:41] <doodle> taglass: okay, will do, thanks!
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> and as you can see from the last couple lines, it's minecraft >.> So it should be working, its not like I made it and it isn't working. xD
[07:42] <lgp171188> Logan_: I didn't realize the option would in gdmsetup. Let me try it out. Thanks :)
[07:42] <Logan_> lgp171188: no problem :)
[07:42] <linusasus6> have a good nite I hope you got lot of cofee because everyone will need help on natty because Unity
[07:42] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop
[07:42] <ytaews> taglass: Alright, thanks for the help, I guess it's back to Maverick for now.
[07:43] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: are you using the sun jre?
[07:43] <lgp171188> linusasus6: It is not as if unity is so buggy but it is due to people so used to traditional Gnome :)
[07:43] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop. any help?
[07:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> think so. either way, I was about to run it out of the box on 10.10, though I did do a fresh install for 11.04
[07:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> fresh including /home
[07:44] <Flynsarmy> Are you able to upload to ubuntu one from the terminal?
[07:44] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: java -fullversion
[07:44] <Logan_> !ubuntuone | Flynsarmy
[07:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: 1.6.2_22-b22
[07:45] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: although with a fresh install you should be runnin openjdk I believe
[07:45] <aetaric> hello everyone i'm on 11.04 and unity won't start on supported card
[07:46] <amit> aetaric: 11.04 is fake :)
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> ..oh, wait, just noticed I am in #ubuntu... I am technically running kubuntu... >.>
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> <.<
[07:46] <amit> ?
[07:46] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: yeah hmm I dunno man.  It should work.  You could always try sun java
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: probably better for minecraft anyways.
[07:47] <ror> my PC completely froze about 12 hours into do-dist-upgrade D:
[07:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: probably. is Sun java in the repos, or do I need to get it from them direct?
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: It should be in the repos if you enable the partners repo
[07:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: alright, thanks.
[07:48] <Logan_> !java | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:48] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:48] <deneb> ok..i installed gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 . everything's ok except the auto login......could anyone tell me how to fix the auto login? thanks
[07:48] <Logan_> Ooh, that factoid needs to be updated.
[07:48] <Logan_> deneb: The Gnome 3 PPA is not supported here.
[07:49] <Logan_> (if I'm not mistaken)
[07:49] <mello> is it recommended to throw away unity & install gnome-shell? Or does it not work optimal on natty?
[07:49] <CodeWar> thank God I m not th eonly one thinking about throwing away unity
[07:49] <mello> rofl
[07:50] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:50] <Logan_> mello: No need to install - just choose the Ubuntu Classic environment at login.
[07:50] <Logan_> !repeat | Scarra3
[07:50] <yi`zhi> wooo
[07:50] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> hello, all. Now, I'm using debian 6.0. But I want to try ubuntu11.04. How can I install it from my hard disk?
[07:50] <mello> Logan_ that would just give me gnome 2, with gnome-shell I mean gnome 3
[07:50] <taglass> Scarra3: probably depends upon the size of yoru monitor.  Ity doesn't fill a 24"
[07:50] <Logan_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: Download the ISO and burn it to a CD
[07:50] <Logan_> !gnome3 | mello
[07:50] <Logan_> *DVD
[07:50] <Scarra3> taglass: its a laptop
[07:51] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, double click "install ubuntu 11.04" under "distros" menu.
[07:51] <mello> ubottu thanks
[07:51] <yi`zhi> how do i make it so that i'm asked for a password every time i sudo?
[07:51] <yi`zhi> that seems to have been gone when i restarted into 11
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> So where do I get help for 10.04?  Is that here also?
[07:51] <Logan_> !lucid | thegoodcushion
[07:51] <taglass> mello: I wouldn't honestly at this point gnome-shell and unity both feel incomplete and neither seems to have the upper hand in functionality.
[07:51] <Scarra3> taglass: The screen size is 1366 x 768
[07:51] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Logan_: No, I don't have a cd-rw
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Yes but is this the right channel for help with it?
[07:52] <silvery> I have 10.10 and 11.04 CD both 32x. I want to upgrade my 10.10 with this CD and don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option when run CD. Any suggestions?
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: Yes - it is supported until... (let me check)
[07:52] <deneb> Logan_: what do you mean? not the right channel for gnome 3 - ubuntu?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: 3 years for the desktop
[07:52] <mello> taglass: I agree to some degree.. except that I can still do my work in gnome3, whilst unity is making that impossible.
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: yeah :P
[07:52] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: How? where to click?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Well I'm about to install it baby
[07:52] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on the left side. :)
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> silvery, you can only use the Alternative CD for upgrade, NOT LiveCDs
[07:52] <talntid> gnight all.
[07:52] <mello> taglass: if i want to be productive i'd better just get another distro..
[07:53] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: April 2013 for the LTS
[07:53] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: yep
[07:53] <Logan_> deneb: it's a third-party, unsupported PPA
[07:53] <narf_> Are you guys enjoying this new look and feel, because i kind of think its the most buggy piece of software I have seen in some time.
[07:53] <ZykoticK9> mello, debian is an option...
[07:53] <Logan_> !ot | narf_
[07:53] <ror> what's happened to the system > preferences menu? I can't find it now :(
[07:53] <taglass> mello: you could always just use gnome classic for this dev cycle and hope gnome3/unity are better later this year.
[07:53] <lgp171188> Hi, there was an issue with Nvidia proprietary drivers and plymouth in older releases. Doesn't seem to be fully fixed in natty either. On selecting Ubuntu in grub, there appears a purple screen for some time, then a low resolution plymouth screen appears for a second and then a black screen before gdm appears. Any way to fix/workaround this annoying bug?
[07:53] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: But I'm using debian now. I have only a alternate iso for ubuntu11.04. I think I have to boot from this iso to install it.
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> narf_: Are you talking about Unity?
[07:54] <silvery> ZykoticK9 : Sorry but where i can get this Alternative CD and is it official too?
[07:54] <deneb> Logan_: yes but i have a problem and i want to solve it and i need help....where i can get this help?
[07:54] <Phil_Shapiro> Can I ask a question that you all must have heard a million times already?
[07:54] <Logan_> !alternate | silvery
[07:54] <narf_> thegoodcushion, i'm natty and the default launcher it uses...
[07:54] <Logan_> deneb: probably irc.gnome.org #gnome3
[07:54] <silvery> thank you, everyone!
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> Imagine if all the Linux developers spent all their time working on the one distro?  All that effort put into one distro, Linux would really be something
[07:54] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: it's good to have variety
[07:55] <taglass> thegoodcushion: It would probably suck.. competition is good :)
[07:55] <Spaz_Dynamic> hrm, are double quotes ( " ) valid characters for in directory names?
[07:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Could somebody give me some links or some suggestions about install ubuntu alternate iso from hard disk under debian?
[07:55] <mello> ZykoticK9: i wouldn't choose debian as a desktop env
[07:55] <lgp171188> mello: Gnome shell and unity aren't as mature and hence aren't as customizable as Gnome 2.x. So for now I am sticking to gnome 2.x waiting for gnome-shell/unity to mature a lot more and become fully customizable as gnome 2.x
[07:55] <ZykoticK9> thegoodcushion, you don't understand linux.  Choice is a good thing.
[07:55] <FFIF> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <ror> the new interface is horrible D: it does that "mac" thing of having all the application menus in a separate bar, but most annoyingly I can't seem to move the launcher panel to the top? What's with not being able to create as many panels as one wishes?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: you have a choice to use gnome 2.x without having to install anything extra
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> mello, good thing there are lots of options out there ;)  see above ^^
[07:56] <mello> lgp171188 what should i choose if im sick of gnome2 atm (its getting boring) & i don't want kde? (or give me one good reason for kde)
[07:56] <Logan_> mello: XFCE?
[07:56] <thegoodcushion> The one thing I didn't like about debian was hte icons
[07:56] <elad> zachgretzinger, the 64 bit didnt work... im getting the following error...The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:  [Errno 5] Input/output error  This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk
[07:56] <taglass> mello: ratpoison
[07:56] <mello> Logan_ this would be achieved just with apt-get install xfce4? But im not sure if this installs the last version 4.8
[07:56] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Funny. You don't like the icons. CHANGE THEM.
[07:56] <thebigham> How do you install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: then go for gnome-shell or try out different environments like xfce/lxde
[07:57] <joako> Is it possible to install Ubuntu inside VMWare ESXi? I am getting an error it cant mount the CDROM
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, that's way too complicated ;)
[07:57] <lgp171188> mello: or KDE
[07:57] <Logan_> mello: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: For Gnome 3?
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, i'm just joking
[07:57] <elad> zachgretzinger, by the way, im installing from a usb, but when i tried to install from a cd, i get the same error
[07:57] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:57] <Logan_> !vmware | joako
[07:57] <neo_> who was installed 11.04?
[07:57] <Braiam> elad: try reburning the CD
[07:58] <Logan_> joako: /join #vmware for support
[07:58] <solofight> /etc/init.d/ does not contain an entry for ftp
[07:58] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:58] <Phil_Shapiro> Has anyone here managed to get Ubuntu to network with windows 7?
[07:58] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: Ooo -- But it is complicated! (Especially if you make your own!)
[07:58] <solofight> help please
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> That's really strange
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> pm me
[07:58] <mello> lgp171188 let me google lxde
[07:58] <elad> braiam, i tried, and i tried the 64 bit version too
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> elad pm me
[07:58] <solofight> Phil_Shapiro, using samba ?
[07:58] <shrys> Will upgrading to Natty from Maverick affect any of my installed applications ?
[07:58] <Logan_> mello: Lubuntu is a distro with LXDE based on Ubuntu, but it's not officially supported by Canonical
[07:58] <Braiam> elad: check the memory
[07:58] <red2kic> mello: awesome, dwn, e17
[07:58] <Logan_> shrys: it shouldn't, unless the devs haven't provided newer versions for natty
[07:59] <Phil_Shapiro> Solo: I installed it, but I'm stuck in the PW authentication loop
[07:59] <elad> braiam, what do you mean?
[07:59] <lgp171188> mello: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu hth :-)
[07:59] <thebigham> How can I install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space dualboot with win7?
[07:59] <vega> is it really so that natty ships with a stone-age lirc (0.8.7) that is NOT compatible with nattys lirc kernel drivers?
[07:59] <Braiam> elad: in the ubuntu cd boot is a option to check the memory
[07:59] <mello> lgp171188: thanks. i might install xfce for now and tweak it.. i just want something that is not counterproductive
[08:00] <lgp171188> mello: hmmm, go ahead try things and use the one that suits you :)
[08:00] <elad> braiam, oh at boot?
[08:00] <sltPoison> Hello
[08:00] <Braiam> elad: sorry, yes this is what I mean
[08:01] <sltPoison> When trying to insall ubuntu 11.04 it hangs right as I press FORWARD at the first prompt screen
[08:01] <elad> braiam, and what should this tell me, exactly? im sorry, im very new to this.
[08:01] <taglass> solofight: netstat -ltp should tell you if anything is listening on the ftp port.
[08:01] <lo0m> hi, has anyone succesfully migrated from virtualbox to HDD? using dd? ubuntu 10.10 btw
[08:02] <paul> hi
[08:02] <Braiam> elad: depending of the size of your memory it take a while analizing, if it found errors then you should brougt another
[08:02] <Grimdin> 11.04 problem, i dont use unity, so i use classic but my desktop visual effect are all missing, howto re-enable them?
[08:03] <econnell> lo0m: it's doable, but it's incredibly difficult
[08:03] <lo0m> Grimdin: i believe unity can be switched off in Compiz settings..
[08:03] <paul> can I sudo-apt get dropbearkey some how?
[08:03] <elad> braiam, ill check it now & let you know in a few minutes. thanks
[08:03] <Braiam> elad: if everything is OK then is the hard drive
[08:03] <Magnusson> can someone help me figure out what i need to do to fix make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libX11.so', needed by `lib/liboxygentransparentstyle.so.4.6.0'.  Stop.?
[08:03] <Grimdin> lo0m, i have switched unity off, but there is not visual effects in classic mode...
[08:03] <Logan_> Grimdin: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:04] <Logan_> Grimdin: That will let you change all the visual effects in Ubuntu Classic
[08:04] <ZeiP> I upgraded to 11.04, and after reboot my computer doesn't launch Xorg. It shows all the boot messages (though it shouldn't), the last message being "Starting uptime daemon: uptimed"
[08:04] <Logan_> (and Unity, for that matteR)
[08:04] <sltPoison> had do you change the styles?
[08:04] <Logan_> *matter
[08:04] <joako> Logan_: No. I install VMWare ESXi Hypervisor on the server, then I create a virtual machine to which I want to install Ubuntu
[08:04] <Grimdin> Logan_, i have installed it, and it says enabled lots of things, but nothing seems to be happening
[08:04] <elad> braiam, it cant be the HD. its only ubuntu that gives me an error, Kubuntu installed perfectly
[08:04] <Robert__> the update manager is not letting me upgrade
[08:05] <Scarra3> should I install the ATI drivers or just stick with the ones that comes with 11.04?
[08:05] <joako> When I boot the Ubuntu CD inside the virtual machine I get the message "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed:
[08:05] <Phil_Shapiro> solofight: my W7 network shows up on my Ubuntu 10.10 netbook, but it won't let me log in. I'm sure you've heard of this prob before
[08:05] <Braiam> elad: the HD can have corrupted sectors on the part that you try to install ubuntu
[08:05] <lo0m> econnell: what about a fresh install? then dd ? or migrate only /home ? i don't want to lose all settings (home dotfiles) and hooks in /var/www
[08:05] <Robert__> i need help upgrading
[08:05] <mello> Scarra3 install ati driver on your own risk! it depends on your computer..
[08:06] <elad> braiam, i wiped the partition 30 minutes ago...
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 on my pc when using ATI driver, compositing doesn't work anymore, which is a key feature used in unity compiz
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 in other words: it might be that your compiz is screwed
[08:06] <econnell> lo0m: if windows is already on the machine, ubuntu's installer should recommend a resize
[08:06] <Scarra3> Its a sony vaio and my graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[08:07] <Grimdin> mello, i have same problems on nvidia driver (latest version)
[08:07] <deeeed> hi
[08:07] <Grimdin> compositing does not work
[08:07] <mello> Scarra3: I have ATI mobility Radeon HD 3650; I would recommend just trying. Go back if something feels sloppy for you
[08:07] <Robert__> hate to be a bother but im having some trouble upgrading
[08:07] <econnell> if you want to create a vm from the disk, that's a whole different matter... and the process varies based on your virtualization solution
[08:07] <joako> How can I download .torrent of ubutntu? I think the HTTP download is corrupt
[08:07] <mello> Grimdin: good to know; i thought this problem only existed with ATI
[08:07] <Braiam> elad: there're another cause, your CD are all broken or your cd-w was defect
[08:08] <Braiam> has*
[08:08] <mello> joako: get a torrent program like vuze, transmission µtorrent, and download it.
[08:08] <jooseyjoose> if i had a huge csv file is there a way to split it up into sections?
[08:08] <Grimdin> mello, is there bug open already?
[08:08] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:08] <paul> I've made a huge big mess of all my public/private keys, if I want to start all over, is it safe to just deleve ~/.ssh ?
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know about compatibility for installating ubuntu on a macbook pro ?
[08:08] <Braiam> mello: utorrent? closed-source?
[08:08] <mello> Grimdin: i don't have a clue.. i had this problem before, not just on natty. I think it is a driver related problem
[08:08] <red2kic> !torrents | joako
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know if the drivers support all the hardware ?
[08:08] <elad> braiam, my CD? im booting off a USB
[08:08] <mello> Braiam: I am suggesting it because he might be on windows, and that program is easier
[08:08] <Blue1> paul: why not just rename the directory first, then start over.
[08:09] <lo0m> econnell: i'll propably just trash Win7 and do a fresh 11.04 install, use this VM there and setup everything by hand.. thx anyway
[08:09] <Scarra3> How do I stop my computer from locking after a certain amount of time?
[08:09] <nicklo> Is there an explanation as to what the mac version ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso is?
[08:09] <paul> Blue1: clever, thank you
[08:09] <Braiam> mello: ok then
[08:09] <Blue1> paul: always have a path back, to the way it was, before you messed it up.
[08:09] <econnell> lo0m: if it matters.. that's what i did
[08:09] <joako> mello, No insults but is this the n00b channel?
[08:09] <Obamanation> lo0m: have you considered dual boot?
[08:09] <mello> Braiam: hence why it was my last suggestion.
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: man split
[08:09] <keruom_> hi, I a but confused with linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless packages. I need to have at least 2.6.37-2.6.32-31-generic, where the 2.6.37 is important
[08:09] <jooseyjoose> thanks taglass !
[08:09] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: that should be able to break it up for you
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: broken usb, then? has you tried redownload the image file iso
[08:10] <mello> joako: you weren't expecting from canonical here were you? I'm just trying to help.
[08:10] <nicklo> I'd like to try Natty on this MacBook but wondering which iso to download.
[08:10] <elad> braiam, tried a cd too...
[08:10] <keruom_> but i want to have automatic updates working, so I would like to install 'linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic' as the package desription suggests...
[08:10] <lo0m> Obamanation: dual boot is not an option.. i use linux for years, it was just my past employer that was hooked to M$ so much he forced me to use it...
[08:10] <keruom_> but there seems to be no such package on lucid
[08:10] <Blue1> keruom_: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/getting-wireless-connect-to-work-for-acer-aspire-on-ubuntu/
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: both same results?
[08:10] <red2kic> nicklo: I imagine it is the one with -mac- in the filename you mentioned above.
[08:11] <joako> I know what .torrent is, but put into google "ubuntu torrent" and I get this: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download ERROR 404
[08:11] <atharva> unable to start Synaptic Unable to get exclusive lock
[08:11] <atharva> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[08:11] <elad> braiam, exact same results\
[08:11] <Obamanation> lo0m: i apologize if i'm making you repeat yourself (just joined a minute ago) but how come it's not an option?
[08:11] <Braiam> elad: then is a corrupted iso what you have
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: Yeah I'd presumed so. I was curious where the info is on what that means
[08:11] <mello> joako: that was not really in your description; from what you said it sounded like you didn't know what torrents are..
[08:11] <nicklo> if I try download direct from ubuntu.com I don't get the mac version
[08:11] <red2kic> nicklo: "This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems"
[08:11] <nicklo> there is also the alternative mac version
[08:11] <elad> braiam, both the 64 bit & 32 bits that ive tried? i dled it directly from ubuntu
[08:11] <red2kic> Robert__: Talk here.
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: where did you get that info?
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[08:12] <Robert__> i try but nothing gets read
[08:12] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:12] <mello> joako http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[08:12] <lo0m> Obamanation: as i dont want it.. i dont need Win.. inside VirtualBox i made a perfect working setup.. i was just finding a way to transfer it to HDD (so it would be the only OS)
[08:12] <nicklo> red2kic: excellent, thanks!
[08:12] <thegoodcushion> So here's a thought: Why does the distro fit exactly on one CD?  Does the base install consist of packages that will fit on one CD?  Would Ubuntu ever distribute a release that needed compulsory download or burning to DVD?
[08:12] <Braiam> elad: check the hashsum or download via torrent
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: Np.
[08:12] <keruom_> Blue1: thx, but the problem is somehow different :-) I am missing the linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic package in lucid
[08:12] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:12] <SoulRaven> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iP3utsapSvIJ:manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/ep.4freebsd.html+ubuntu+3CCE589ET&cd=4&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro&source=www.google.ro
[08:13] <elad> braiam, ok thanks
[08:13] <Braiam> elad: no problem :-)
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Because it's easy.
[08:13] <heroprimeremix> How do i get to my home directory while i am root user?
[08:13] <Robert__> red2kic can you help
[08:13] <SoulRaven> where i put the if_ep_load="YES" in ubuntu server
[08:13] <Tm_T> thegoodcushion: it fits exactly to one cd as with every release there's fine balancing on what will be included because of the limits of CD as medium. And atleast for now the plan is to keep doing that way
[08:13] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/
[08:13] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: so are all releases limited by that size?
[08:13] <ror> booting into ubuntu-classic option I get no launchers, panels etc, I can't launch anything :(
[08:13] <Obamanation> lo0m: ooh okay, yeah i may have a difference of opinion on one count, but anyhow, is it windows or ubuntu that you set up in VM
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: You want to install Ubuntu using Iomega Zip Disk or Floppy disk? Be my guest.
[08:14] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/(username) sorry
[08:14] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: well what about using DVD?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: Or USB key would be possible too
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> See in future we could say that the release is limited to 4 gigs compressed
[08:14] <Robert__> red2kic__:i am heaving trouble upgrading
[08:14] <lo0m> Obamanation: sorry wasnt clear.. i setup Ubuntu 10.10 in VirtualBox.. Win7 is the host machine
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: I'm not the person to ask -- but if you insist, there are minimal iso (12MB).
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Yes, USB is already possible. I have been using USB method.
[08:15] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:15] <linuxuz3r> i missed the release party
[08:15] <red2kic> Robert__: I see.  I always find myself doing clean installations over upgrades.
[08:15] <Obamanation> lo0m: perfect. install apt-to-cd (or something like that) and it make a burnable image of your installation that you can do a "fresh" install with
[08:15] <Phil_Shapiro> Anyone here, please...is there a solution to the problem of loging into a Windows 7 network?
[08:16] <thegoodcushion> linuxuz3r: you can have a release party of your own
[08:16] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> is 11.04 lts?
[08:16] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: yes
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> linuxuz3r, no 10.04is LTS
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: eeeh, sorry :-)
[08:17] <Obamanation> lo0m: it saves all packages you have installed and does not add any you removed. it will not, however, save documents or media of any kind
[08:17] <Robert__> red2kic__:ok then well i am on a dual boot pc with windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04 do how do i get rid of ubuntu with out messing up windows
[08:17] <Braiam> !repeat | SoulRaven Phil_Shapiro
[08:17] <lo0m> Obamanation: oh, thanks.. i thought AptOnCd can just store package information (what was installed).. anyway, i could copy just the dotfiles than manually.. thanx - will go that way
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: anytime :)
[08:18] <ror> Is there anything I need to add if I remove unity?
[08:18] <red2kic> Robert__: ##windows might be the proper channel (I'm not sure how to deal with mbr/grub).
[08:18] <Phil_Shapiro> ubottu: ok thanks
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: it will create an image of your 10.10 but you can just do the upgrade process afterwards.
[08:18] <Robert__> red2kic__:mbr/grub?
[08:19] <red2kic> Robert__: Windows use whatever they use. Linux use grub.  (for bootloader).
[08:19] <red2kic> !info grub | Robert__
[08:20] <Obamanation> anyone know how to remove an applet from the panel that won't open a context menu?
[08:20] <red2kic> Robert__: When you start up your computer, the bios do its stuffs first -- then grub does it stuffs.
[08:20] <Braiam> red2kic: i think that is grub2
[08:20] <Robert__> red2kic__:oh ok so how do i delete ubuntu
[08:21] <red2kic> Robert__: You can delete it using liveCD (delete the partition) -- but I don't know how you would deal with grub. You should ask in ##windows about the mbr question.
[08:21] <Obamanation> Robert__; red2kic: you can also overwrite the PC bios with grub (-_o) not recommended unless you know what you're doing
[08:21] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:21] <Rehan> i'm installing ubuntu 11.04 and it keeps hanging at the very end due to nvidia drivers not being found, although on the liveUSB trial run there were no problems
[08:22] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:22] <red2kic> ddddddddddd: Why wouldn't you?
[08:22] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems with 10.10 LiveCD. Please ping me/mention my name in your answers so I can minimize xchat. Thanks!
[08:22] <ror> please can somebody help? I can't seem to get ubuntu-classic to work
[08:22] <ZykoticK9> related to Rehan's question above, it is possible to use Nvidia Proprietary drivers in 11.04?
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> red2kic:
[08:23] <Robert__> red2kic__; Obamanation: oh my gosh why is all of this so complicated
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:23] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: kde is best suited for learning how linux works and how to develop for it
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: It isn't. You can remove/install grub using linux systems -- the problem is that how do you install to the first sector of HDD with Windows? (Usually that is being done when you install Windows for first time).
[08:24] <tuxy_> hello i am having a problem setting a unique mount in 11.04 ubuntu
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: So you don't want to reinstall Windows (Fine -- but how do you install the boot process for Windows?) Ask in ##windows
[08:24] <taglass> Robert__: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: One choice is to leave it alone (grub).
[08:25] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: have you tried entering it from grub's shell?
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: are you trying to fix a dual boot issue?
[08:25] <tuxy_> why cannot i not name my own point on the installer ?
[08:25] <red2kic> Blue1: No. He wanted to get rid of Ubuntu (and grub is part of Ubuntu). :)
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: ahh ok
[08:25] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation no i meant as systemstart
[08:25] <Magnusson> tuxy_: did you select "advanced" or something to that effect?
[08:26] <Axlin> ddddddddddd: look in system settings → startup & shutdown
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__; ok your talking alot about windows
[08:26] <ror> wtf, I can't remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__: i dont want to do any thing to windows
[08:26] <fubada> hey guys is it cool to cnntrl-c  do-upgrade-release
[08:26] <fubada> im in the middle of apt downloading
[08:26] <fubada> the mirrors are too slow
[08:26] <fubada> and i need sleep
[08:27] <red2kic> mang0: Just plug the cable in.
[08:27] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: i know of a dirty way to make that happen
[08:27] <Rehan> is it possible to torrent the updates?
[08:27] <mang0> cable for what, red2kic?
[08:27] <Braiam> fubada: this is cause the heavy load of the servers
[08:28] <fubada> Braiam, i understand this, is it safe to control-c
[08:28] <fubada> the process of do-release-upgrade
[08:28] <fubada> im in the apt-get stage
[08:28] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: make the command auto-run in a terminal via saved session every time you cold boot
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation can i do it in
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ?
[08:28] <red2kic> mang0: Get a cable. Move your computer downstairs. I don't know. The cables are pretty cheap. Got myself 25FT HDMI for 10 bucks. Get 100ft if you need it.
[08:28] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I have an nvidia GTX460SE card running on Ubuntu 10.04.  The screen is in 640x480 mode and obviously isn't being accelerated.  How do I get decent drivers for it?  The nvidia website wants me to download a 26 megabyte .bin file and I don't know what to do with it
[08:29] <red2kic> mang0: Until you get that Wifi part solved -- Often, when you're installing something -- you always want to use cable.
[08:29] <fubada> thegoodcushion, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:29] <mang0> hmm
[08:29] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ? can i do theree
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <thegoodcushion> fubada: thx
[08:29] <mang0> Okay, I'll talk to my mum
[08:29] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: not sure i understand what you're asking
[08:29] <michael> help needed
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <Blue1> listpi: man udisks might be a good place to start.
[08:30] <taglass> ddddddddddd: I know chkconfig can be used to enable/disable services which is what you seem to want.  I'm not sure what the "ubuntu way" is though
[08:30] <listpi> Blue1 : thanks but i am using 9.04 ubuntu and on this udisk is not available
[08:30] <listpi> blue1 : tell me what i do
[08:30] <ejv> red2kic: a 25ft hdmi from best buy would cost like $1000 LOL
[08:30] <Blue1> listpi: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Braiam> !help | michael
[08:31] <red2kic> ejv: Probably. Best Buy is a scumbag corportation.
[08:31] <mang0> red2kic cant I mount the .iso using daemon tools lite, run wubi, click the option to dualboot it, it'll restart after installing, then you will always have an option for windows or ubuntu on startup
[08:31] <mang0> I'll*
[08:31] <SoulRaven> i can't find loader.conf
[08:31] <red2kic> !iso | mang0
[08:31] <ejv> red2kic: yup ;)
[08:31] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish though.
[08:31] <taglass> SoulRaven: loader.conf is a BSDism
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> !gnome3
[08:32] <Blue1> listpi: you realise that 9.04 is no longer supported
[08:32] <mang0> red2kic I want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, and have them on seperate hard drives (I have 2)
[08:32] <red2kic> mang0: If you want to dualboot, you can use either option -- Disc or Wubi. -- I don't like Wubi.
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> whats the difference between gnome 3 and gnome shell
[08:32] <SoulRaven> taglass: and how i load  if_ep_load="YES"
[08:32] <sighhhh> hello, i seem to have lost my start menu... how do i get it back i cant find on the web
[08:32] <taglass> SoulRaven: you don't.  That's for FreeBSD
[08:33] <mang0> red2kic I don't want to use Wubi....but it might be my only option for the moment
[08:33] <thegoodcushion> fubada: I have the proprietary drivers installed but it still seems to be using VGA crappy settings
[08:33] <listpi> Blue1 : ya but let me know if i upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 then is there any effect ...i will get the same thing after upgrade
[08:33] <red2kic> mang0: If you're on a tower. Can't you unplug HDD you don't want to use, and plug the one you want to use Ubuntu on?
[08:33] <SoulRaven> taglass: and is no solution to load the module for 3com cards?
[08:33] <fubada> thegoodcushion, you got the nvidia control panel under Administration>
[08:33] <mang0> hmm
[08:33] <fubada> mess with that
[08:33] <mang0> I could
[08:33] <fubada> im goign to bed
[08:33] <fubada> night
[08:33] <FloodBot3> fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <mang0> hold on
[08:34] <Blue1> listpi: you should backup /home/ and /etc/ then do a fresh install of at least 10.04 or higher -- 10.04 was an lts (long term support) release
[08:34] <AMAG> No doubt this is a common question, but is there a FAQ item telling me how to get my nvidia driver working after 11.04 upgrade?  Under "Additional Drivers," I am told "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[08:34] <sighhhh> how do i recover my start menu. its disapeared?
[08:34] <taglass> SoulRaven: It should be loading it automatically if it's supported.  I'm not going to tackle this because I'm going to bed.  I just wanted to fix your BSD problem :)
[08:35] <JWay> is it intentional that when using unity, compiz takes up 9-10% cpu load constantly when doing nothing but having a terminal and chrome open?
[08:35] <Starminn> sighhhh: Which Ubuntu version?
[08:35] <sighhhh> 11.04 just upgraded
[08:35] <Rehan> 11.04 keeps stopping during installation due to a lack of nvidia-current. What can I do to fix this? Thank you.
[08:35] <zamba> these days "which ubuntu version" should be a pretty redundant question :)
[08:35] <ror> Right, how can I get the chromium launcher to LAUNCH A NEW WINDOW when I click it? At the moment it just brings back up the window I already have open
[08:35] <joako> If I installed Ubuntu 10.10 it's not going to automatically update to 11.04?
[08:35] <maedox> sighhhh: log out, click you username if applicable, select Ubuntu Classic on the menu and then log in.
[08:35] <ror> this is exactly why I switched away from windows in the first place, because windows 7 was doing that
[08:35] <Braiam> Rehan: you checked your CD
[08:35] <ramshot> Heya, just upgraded to 11.04 and I'm impressed so far, but one thing is driving me nuts... How do I launch a new instance from the launcher instead of switching to one already opened? I've tried alt/ctrl/shift/etc and just can't find it / google it :)
[08:35] <zamba> i'm guessing 90% of all questions in here are related to 11.04 :)
[08:35] <sighhhh> thanks maedox
[08:35] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor in 11.04
[08:35] <sighhhh> i luf joe!
[08:36] <ramshot> Heh, I see I'm not the only one with the same quetion %)
[08:36] <ejv> solution: go back to windows.
[08:36]  * ejv bows
[08:36] <Blue1> ejv: or debian
[08:36] <listpi> blue1 : can you tell how to automount local drive on boot
[08:36] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor theme??? ANYONE?????
[08:37] <ror> Since when did #ubuntu become so unhelpful?
[08:37] <ejv> appearances!???
[08:37] <atavist> i have 2 computer running with ubuntu, have shared some folders -- neither computer can see the other shares when browsing through nautilus. any thoughts?
[08:37] <ramshot> ror: I found one page saying that middle mouse button could work, but for me it doesn't, try it if you haven't.
[08:37] <heroprimeremix> ejv: it dosent work
[08:37] <Blue1> listpi: http://pkill-9.com/removable-usb-devices-and-fstab-settings/
[08:37] <ror> ramshot: that did work for me, thanks
[08:37] <red2kic> ror: Use Ctrl + N in Chromium? :o
[08:37] <ramshot> Okay then, how do I get my middle mouse button to work, anyone? :D
[08:38] <ejv> ror, the point is that no one has any interest in what your experience was like in windows since this is ubuntu support.
[08:38] <Blue1> atavist: can they ping each other?
[08:38] <AnySocal> hello ubuntu users
[08:38] <AMAG> nvidia driver help on 11.04, anyone?
[08:38] <AnySocal> how is everyone?
[08:38] <ror> ejv: I was just pointing out there seems to be a lot of regression this release to make things more like windows or mac, when ubuntu was better
[08:38] <atavist> Blue1: i'm coming from windows, what's the equivalent of ipconfig to find my IP?
[08:38]  * Blue1 is waiting for the royal bemoaning to start
[08:38] <ramshot> I'm great thanks, but I'd be better if my middle mouse button worked :)
[08:39] <AMAG> atavist:ifconfig
[08:39] <Blue1> atavist: ifconfig
[08:39] <zachgretzinger> atavist www.ip-adress.com
[08:39] <ejv> ror: i believe gnome should also be available as a fall back, should unity not work as intended
[08:39] <AnySocal> lol middle button is so useful
[08:39] <ramshot> ror: Btw, afaik it's possible to easily switch to the old gnome configuration still would should be about the same experience as 10.04
[08:39] <ror> ejv: how? It's not working for me, even "ubuntu-classic" isnt' working for me
[08:39] <ramshot> From the login screen afaik
[08:40] <ror> I'd happily switch back, but trying to uninstall unity I got "also need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop" which worried me
[08:40] <AnySocal> well just wanted to say hey
[08:40] <AnySocal> have a good one
[08:40] <folivora> ror: Yes old Gnome is fallback.. If your gfxcard is unable to work with new 3d env....
[08:40] <atavist> Blue1: yes they can ping each other
[08:40] <AMAG> I upgraded a test machine first.  Glad I did, since the test machine is now totally unusable
[08:40] <Blue1> atavist: so you are doing a samba share then?
[08:40] <ror> folivora: my gfxcard isn't at fault?  (parent directory)
[08:41] <AMAG> ror: I saw a blog or something about that today.  I think your "classic" problem may be common.
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> Magnusson, cd -
[08:41] <Browser> Buenas.
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: you can cd ../  which will but you one directory higher in the chain
[08:41] <atavist> Blue1: I believe so. I right clicked on the folder, enabled sharing, it installed what I thought was samba to enable it... then later I also tried apt-get install samba4 on both systems
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: or cd ~      to go to your home directory
[08:41] <ejv> ror: worked perfectly for me, i selected ubuntu classic no effects, because well... i hate effects ;)
[08:41] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: I learned something new!
[08:42] <vega> Blue1: that can be done with just "cd"
[08:42] <ramshot> This is just weird... middle button seems to launch a new instance... like 1/3 of the times I try it
[08:42] <Blue1> atavist: this may/may not help:  http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1060-how-to-configure-samba-using-a-graphical-interface-in-ubuntu
[08:42] <ejv> honestly, outside of unity, this new version is anti-climatic....
[08:43] <Magnusson> nah i'm not looking to move 1 level up, i could be nuts but i think i remember years ago being able to for example  cd /etc/X11, then cd /mnt/cdrom, then use another command to get back to cd /etc/X11 (just an example off the top of head)
[08:43] <ghost1551> ej
[08:43] <red2kic> Magnusson: "cd -"  ?
[08:43] <Starminn> ejv: Well, they dumped OpenOffice and Rhythmbox. (And now use what I've been using for months, so I'm pleased)
[08:43] <Blue1> Magnusson: cd ../   will do that
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe seljak
[08:43] <Magnusson> Blue1>oh ya? cool thanks :)
[08:43] <ror> It just annoys me how Canonical are such clowns these days. Ever since the "megabug" over the naming of Ubuntu One, they've acted in their interests only. For example they just added a load of their apps to my launcher without asking, they now have a launcher you can't configure, you can't even move the panel to the bottom of the screen; Window switching used to be easy, by scrolling the mousewheel over the panel, you can't do
[08:43] <ror>  that now. I guess the "solution" is to go to debian, but I've been using Ubuntu since edgy and I *liked* it.
[08:43] <ejv> Starminn: banshee? agreed, been using for years via the PPA
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe angel
[08:44] <Starminn> ejv: Yep. I thinkt hat the only exciting thing for the version itself (other than Unity, of course) is they dumped OpenOffice which is a pretty bold move.
[08:44] <isbric> how do i check the fifo buffer limit?
[08:44] <red2kic> ror: Heh. You can always go with Ubuntu minimal and install barebone gnome environment.
[08:44] <ejv> Starminn: i don't really know the difference betwen open and libre office, but it sounds merely like licensing...
[08:44] <red2kic> Starminn: OpenOffice isn't open anymore, yah?
[08:45] <red2kic> libre/free.
[08:45] <ror> But I don't want minimal, I like all the effects and fancy stuff, but they've gone from applications where you can configure every last detail to applications where the application forces *your* behaviour
[08:45] <Blue1> Starminn: dunno good question -but libreoffice is not ready for primetime, imho
[08:45] <mang0> right, I'm back. red2kic what were you saying about unplugging one of the hard drives?
[08:45] <red2kic> Blue1: Libreoffice works for me just fine? :o
[08:45] <ror> that and not being able to scroll through open windows with the mouse wheel is horribly worse for me, it's the only way I used to switch windows
[08:45] <AMAG> I do not like how I just clicked restart from a logged-in user and it just returned to the login screen
[08:46] <vega> ror: too much trying to mimick mac-style ... this release definitely seems to be at testing stage
[08:46] <Blue1> red2kic: ymmv applies
[08:46] <Starminn> ejv: Libre is a fork of Open. They didn't like how things were ebing handled so they formed LibreOffice,
[08:46] <Rehan> is there a way to torrent all the updates with the ISO instead of sitting here waiting for it to download from Canonical?
[08:46] <marioczek> hello all
[08:46] <Blue1> howdy marioczek tex
[08:46] <Starminn> Rehan: You can upgrade with the AlternateCD I believe.
[08:47] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you wanted to do. Dualboot. Just grab your mama's cable.
[08:47] <Rehan> Starminn: doing a fresh install
[08:47] <marioczek> i have some question about root
[08:47] <mang0> right D:<
[08:47] <Blue1> marioczek: ok
[08:47] <Starminn> Rehan: Then just grab it from the torrent the link to, or find one on a torrent site as I'm sure one's already there. Normal LiveCD
[08:47] <Starminn> !root | marioczek
[08:47] <marioczek> i try create a server on ubuntu 11.04
[08:48] <Oday> can i do "wc" on a .odt document?
[08:48] <ejv> if you can push it to stdout, sure
[08:48] <Rehan> Starminn: i already have the liveCD iso, put it on a USB, installing from it currently, but its installing so many things slowly
[08:48] <marioczek> whe i try create a folder in var/www its write im not have access
[08:48] <mang0> red2kic I will take the cable, but I can't install, as Ubuntu LiveCD wont actually detect my drives....
[08:48] <daxt> hi guys , i installed 11.04 in my HDD parallel to 10.10 Lucid , but  11.04 is not listed in the boot menu ,  How do i fix it ?
[08:48] <Oday> i can :)
[08:48] <maxmahem> Okay, somehow after I upgraded to 11.04 I broke GRUB. I've booted to my install via a SuperGRUB USB, but how do I go about fixing my grub setup?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: I see. You might want to try alt.
[08:49] <red2kic> !alt | mang0
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (wider range of hardware) -- Not sure if that applies -- but it might.
[08:49] <Blue1> daxt: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[08:49] <mang0> ooooh, an alternitive
[08:49] <Grimdin> another problem after 11.04 upgrade, laptop, nvidia, classic desktop, i use 2 monitors  and external monitor is my primary monitor, now i noticed on laptop monitor that it has global menu enabled and its missing window controls, etc, but on external monitor i have window controls and no global menu but no desktop visuals
[08:49] <mang0> native*
[08:49] <Braiam> marioczek: this is because you actualy doesn't have it, it use the www-data user
[08:49] <marioczek> siema wszystkim
[08:49] <roma99> i just mount 'ubuntu 11.4' by ISO file on my computer so now how can i upgrade my ubuntu (10.10) to new version?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: Also, unplug the HDDs -- Lessen the chance of accidental, I suppose.
[08:49] <marioczek> siema
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (When it's off).
[08:49] <daxt> hey Blue1 thanks for quick reply !
[08:49] <mang0> k
[08:50] <mang0> right, thankyou red2kic  :D
[08:50] <Blue1> roma99: I've had problems upgrading - it is genrally (for me) better to backup /etc/ and /home/ and then do a fresh install.
[08:50] <roma99> there must be some ways to upgrade from iso files?
[08:51] <Braiam> roma99: using the alternative CD
[08:51] <roma99> you mean burn the ISO on a CD?
[08:51] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:52] <red2kic> roma99: If your ISO have -desktop- in it, you got the wrong iso.
[08:52] <daxt> hey Blue1  That did not help :(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: :-(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: you have two version of ubuntu and one is not listed, is that correct?
[08:52] <daxt> yes Blue1
[08:53] <roma99> red2kic: no desktop folder in ISO file!
[08:53] <Blue1> daxt: what do you have installed?  what shows up, what does not?
[08:53] <red2kic> roma99: What iso do you have?
[08:53] <daxt> i see the 10.10 with many kernal versions and my old school Win XP
[08:54] <roma99> red2kic:  ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso   >> just download from ubuntu.com!!!!
[08:54] <Blue1> daxt: okay what does NOT show up?
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: Right -- That's the wrong one.
[08:54] <daxt> ubuntu 11.04 entry
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: You want ubuntu-11.04-alternative-i386.iso
[08:54] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:55] <Blue1> daxt: I just downloaded the iso for 11.04 so I have no experience with that (yet) - maybe someone else can assist?
[08:55] <roma99> red2kic: so what's the diffrent between them?
[08:55] <red2kic> ubottu: You fail me. :\
[08:55] <daxt> Blue1  its installed on sdb8
[08:55] <red2kic> roma99: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the  !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.
[08:55] <Rehan> Downloading at 16 kB/s reminds me of being on a US Robotics modem back in the day
[08:55] <daxt> if i can add that to grub loader , then it should work
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u from sri lanka ?
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: desktop -- it included graphical installer.
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: yes
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: alternative does not.
[08:56] <Rehan> daxt: i'm in california
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: And it also can be used for upgrading, etc etc.
[08:56] <zvacet> Rehan: use torrent
[08:56] <daxt> Blue1 where is that file ?
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u a sri lankan ?
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: what is your boot device?
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: how do you download updates from torrent?
[08:56] <daxt> sda1
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: i have the liveUSB installing but it has been installing ubiquity for a long time now
[08:57] <roma99> red2kic: but i think if i burn that on a CD , i can also install a fresh ubuntu? am i right?
[08:57] <Rehan> daxt: nope, parents are from Pakistan
[08:57] <themacg33k> Hi. I can't seem to find out what Ubufox actually does to Firefox in Ubuntu... what is it?
[08:57] <root__> lo
[08:57] <zvacet> Rehan:  sorry ,I was thinking of iso yes servers are overloaded
[08:57] <red2kic> roma99: Yes, you can do a clean installation. Be sure to backup /home/ and /etc/
[08:57] <root__> hello
[08:57] <root__> i need some help
[08:57] <daxt> Rehan - ok cool ,  name Rehan is a very common Sri Lankan name too ;) that is why i asked
[08:57] <Rehan> ask my son.
[08:57] <root__> can any one help me
[08:58] <root__> dear i am using back track 4
[08:58] <folivora> Could someone remeber, where in the hell in compiz is setting  that when you move cursor away from active to another it dims totally the last window and vuse versa
[08:58] <Robert__> Could not calculate the upgrade
[08:58] <Robert__> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[08:58] <Robert__> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
[08:58] <Robert__> caused by held packages.
[08:58] <Robert__> This can be caused by:
[08:58] <FloodBot3> Robert__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <Robert__> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[08:58] <maxmahem> Anyone have any clues on how to fix a broken GRUB setup?
[08:58] <Rehan> daxt: oh ok cool, i didn't know it was common in Sri Lanka also
[08:58] <root__> when m trying to command airmon-ng it shows my wlano
[08:58] <red2kic> !bt | root__
[08:58] <folivora> I had that setting on before upgrade...
[08:59] <red2kic> !backtrack | root__
[08:59] <root__> but when i try to airmon-ng start wlan0 it gives error
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: whats the problem with your grub?
[08:59] <Braiam> red2kic: you havo no luck with ubottu
[08:59] <Braiam> have
[08:59] <maxmahem> Rehan: Somehow I broke it during the upgrade to 11.04
[08:59] <Dania> hey guys, i was upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the screen frozen during the update, so i restarted the pc and now i'm getting the black screen with: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: do you have a liveCD?
[09:00] <Tanvir> Hello, how can I install GNOME3 in my Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:00] <red2kic> Braiam: ubottu still holds a grudge against me since that night at the lake.
[09:00] <red2kic> :(
[09:00] <maxmahem> Rehan: I'm booting off the installed system now (11.4 running fine even!) via SuperGrub.
[09:00] <maxmahem> But I can't seem to fix it.
[09:00] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I've connected an HP Deskjet 2000 to Ubuntu via USB.  Ubuntu isn't virtualized, it's running on the metal now.  I print a test page and Ubuntu thinks it's completed but nothing comes out of the printer.  What do I do?  Are there proprietary drivers that I should use?
[09:00] <Braiam> !gnome3 | Tanvir
[09:00] <zvacet> maxmahem: reinstall it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[09:00] <maxmahem> sudo grub-install doesn't want to work. It Complains: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
[09:01] <celestial> hi every one i have a problem i lost power half way through my upgrade to 11.04 from maverick and ive tryed to use the disk to upgrade it but it says i already have 11.04 and i cant get the system to boot up even in recovery  have a lot of stuff on there and cant afford to lose it any help would be appriciated
[09:01] <red2kic> maxmahem: Usually you point it to a hard drive.
[09:01] <jiltdil> hi 11.04 is good :)
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: in liveCD, open terminal then type sudo -i
[09:01] <alkisg> Any way to sync evolution "tasks" with any app for android?
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: mount /dev/sda5 (sda5 is where your Ubuntu is, change as needed)
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[09:02] <red2kic> celestial: You borked the installation. Grab a LiveCD -- Mount your hard drives, backup /home/ and /etc/ -- Go with a clean installation.
[09:02] <Tanvir> Braiam, okay, thanks. Another help, how to include shortcuts and other options (like weather)  in panel? Also, I miss the bottom panel and the minimized windows there, who to get those?
[09:02] <berkes> What is the shortcut key for the new unity menu? Not the bar, but the search that pops up when  I click the ubuntu logo?
[09:02] <michaels> hi! I updated from 10.10 to 11.04, now my installation is broken (because during update process an error occured). Is there some way to report this to cannonical (with logfiles) so that they maybe can fix this problem, or does this make no sense. later I will simply reinstall
[09:02] <yi`zhi> hi everyone! i'm on narwhal right now. things are looking pretty good except for zeitgeist. will i be able to remove it without incurring penalties?
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then reboot and it should find your proper entries, then you can go into your ubuntu and from terminal do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:03] <maxmahem> Rehan: Well slight problem, I'm already in my install, not running of a live CD.
[09:03] <jiltdil> can we not change the top applet (opacity)
[09:03] <zvacet> michaels: what kind of error
[09:03] <maxmahem> Thus my active partition is already mounted.
[09:03] <Dania> Rehan can you help me in my problem mentioned above ^^
[09:03] <Rehan> maxmahem: go to a liveCD, then do those commands
[09:04] <Rehan> Dania: sorry i only knew the answer to maxmahem's issue because i had the same problem myself a week ago. I'm actually really new to Ubuntu and don't know much at all
[09:04] <yi`zhi> or is zeitgeist something we're not allowed to talk about :X
[09:04] <Robert__> don't get me wrong I find this whole ubuntu thing fascinating but I am having way to many problems with it
[09:04] <zvacet> maxmahem: exact same commaands on link I posted to you
[09:04] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64
[09:04] <Braiam> Tanvir: I don't know, I'll wait a week or twice to upgrade
[09:05] <michaels> zvacet, i got a black screen (with upstart-commands from start of 10.10) and the cursor. nothing more worked. then i shut down and did the rest of the install from the shell. but now, some things don't work properly
[09:05] <incorrect1> oh windows don't have any edge resistance in unity
[09:05] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64bit and well, I can' get flash player to work.... any help with that?